thread_id,id,timestamp,body,subject,author,image_file,image_md5,country_code,country_name,unix_timestamp 107119153,107119153,2017-01-14 16:34:34,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarco-Capitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Taxation is a COMPULSORY contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions. Fuck that gay shit! I don't need your fucking roads! Stick to your guns. Don't tread on me. Serious proposal for you guys. How do we fix the NAP? or do we even need to? I think its a damn good principle but we need to keep the tomahawk missle related collateral damage to a minimum i'd say. Whats your prefered political model? I myself like AnCap but its representation online is too reddit-teir so I am pushing for a Anarco-Fedora-Capitalism genocide to give us a gnarlier image. Also post your best ancap memes.",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - STOP LARPING AS NATSOC AND SHOW YOUR TRUE COLORS EDITION,Anonymous,Badge (6).png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,US,,1484411674 107119153,107119479,2017-01-14 16:37:19,">>107119153 Sigh. I'm writing a light novel on ancap, but I can't help but feel my efforts are autistic. Anything you'd like to see?",,Anonymous,ahhhhhh.png,77rPJ19z1dQi5LSuR6PkIA==,US,,1484411839 107119153,107119942,2017-01-14 16:41:15,">>107119153 The NAP becomes null and void upon theft. Value = time, time = your life. Stealing = taking part of your life. Eye for an eye. Fuck those up who take from you. Roussou, Locke, et al agree. The answer to the problems of libertarianism is classical liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484412075 107119153,107119945,2017-01-14 16:41:17,National Capitalist or Libertarian Fascist here.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484412077 107119153,107120204,2017-01-14 16:43:35,">>107119479 I'd like to see a change of attitude in the ancap presentation. We seem way too nice and pretty for anarchism. I think we need to take our selves less intellectually serious and embrace the chaos to get out of the fringe",,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1484412215 107119153,107120819,2017-01-14 16:49:00,">>107120204 >>107119479 you know how many faggots you see waving their red and black flags at protests. theres fucking tons of them. And their ideology is contradictory bullshit and yet they have a large presence in the public. i think the single biggest problem with ancap is that being right all the time just isnt cool enough to gain momentum. we need cool edgy propaganda like they put out pretty much.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,US,,1484412540 107119153,107120871,2017-01-14 16:49:25,">>107119153 I'm a newbie when it comes to libertarianism. Why do libertarians tend to hold the belief in open borders? This is pretty much the biggest thing keeping me from thinking i'd ever consider myself libertarian.",,Anonymous,"Jan_Matejko,_Stańczyk.jpg",SHe6QdnuBKJrkJZbyREpBg==,US,,1484412565 107119153,107121888,2017-01-14 16:57:42,">>107120819 >>107120204 Ah, I see. I wanted a nice setting for a loli romcom, while making lots of ancap jokes, so I'll try and make it as violently trashy as possible instead. You're right, there's no sugarcoating it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413062 107119153,107121937,2017-01-14 16:58:01,"Do we even need gun laws? Gun laws contradicts the concept of an armed militia... Atleast it souds so to me",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1484413081 107119153,107122059,2017-01-14 16:59:07,">>107120871 immigration dosent't have negitive economic effects because you pay little to no taxes. now on the social side if a bunch of muzzies decide to install sharia you can feel free to remove kebab because they are a threat to the free will of the people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413147 107119153,107122148,2017-01-14 16:59:48,,,Anonymous,1482121802453.png,dJeeNfH0yignze2tASYv9Q==,US,,1484413188 107119153,107122250,2017-01-14 17:00:40,">>107122059 >it's totally ok to become a minority in your own country, as long as sharia isn't the law This is why libertarians are a joke",,Anonymous,,,MC,,1484413240 107119153,107122665,2017-01-14 17:04:02,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413442 107119153,107122783,2017-01-14 17:05:11,">>107122250 yeah libertarians aren't usually into identity politics. We're not racial groups, we're individuals. I'm not about saving the white race im about individual liberty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413511 107119153,107122891,2017-01-14 17:06:01,">>107119479 >Anything you'd like to see? God, no.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413561 107119153,107122927,2017-01-14 17:06:20,">>107122250 They think that their guns will protect them. They forget that until approximately 1913 the United States WAS a libertarian country. Then the majority decided ""fuck that shit"" and we got the Fed, the Square Deal, the New Deal and the welfare state and that was that. All that GUNS GUNS GUNS bullshit didn't do a thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413580 107119153,107122952,2017-01-14 17:06:34,">>107121937 I don't think we need gun laws. Im full tinfoil hat man. >>107121888 Now your getting it. Let the mad max shit roll",,Anonymous,1482127806953.png,YTG2ydT+Ub3Brl3TPkxAcQ==,US,,1484413594 107119153,107122981,2017-01-14 17:06:51,">>107119153 Lolbertarians are traitors and cucks. fuck you all",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413611 107119153,107123127,2017-01-14 17:08:10,">>107122250 Oh and I suppose you would trust your government to keep the immigrants out? Look how well thats going for you. The truth you cant deny is that statist systmes will always commit themselves to policies that perpetuate their power. So I doubt they want the refugee crisis to stop. Libertarianism is the only way. People who want to give the government more power to ""protect their freedoms"" are just beta fags getting cucked by alt righters. I feel sorry for you. You think you need the statte to feel safe",,Anonymous,taxation-is-theft-sales.jpg,amX/RoJXh75C7kULcmCzcg==,US,,1484413690 107119153,107123142,2017-01-14 17:08:17,">>107119945 hello lauren southern your book is shit and I want to fuck you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413697 107119153,107123429,2017-01-14 17:11:03,">>107122981 You think it matters if there are conservatives or liberals in power? they are all the same. Libertarianism is the only truth. You are a being unto yourself. You are a law unto yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413863 107119153,107123438,2017-01-14 17:11:09,">>107122981 Traitors to what now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484413869 107119153,107124079,2017-01-14 17:16:40,Hoppe libertarianism is pretty based dude>>107119153,,Anonymous,1481417145837.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,US,,1484414200 107119153,107124187,2017-01-14 17:17:33,">>107124079 where these memes come from?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484414253 107119153,107124457,2017-01-14 17:19:54,">>107124187 Hans-Hermann Hoppe is libertarian/ancap + literally slaughter commies lookup Hoppean Snake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484414394 107119153,107124572,2017-01-14 17:20:58,">>107119153 I'm a Nazi IRL but I have no problem with this. However, the snake needs to bite back, or else you're all fools.",,Anonymous,snek marxists.jpg,qI4f6Ferw3nBlR/ikdhlXA==,US,,1484414458 107119153,107124597,2017-01-14 17:21:11,">>107124457 >>107124572",,Anonymous,snek wall.jpg,i5gyLIWDIVneA3yXPg+EkA==,US,,1484414471 107119153,107124615,2017-01-14 17:21:19,>>107124187,,Anonymous,taxation-is-theft-7.jpg,Wudj7SBO5RH7w57p3VXIBw==,US,,1484414479 107119153,107124754,2017-01-14 17:22:40,">>107124572 of course dude do you think im some Stefan Molomeme pretty boy dad? I'd fuck you up if you were standing on my lawn too long.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484414560 107119153,107125282,2017-01-14 17:27:44,"BUMP for life, liberty and pursuit of happiness",,Anonymous,CHEESE.png,TtjRAE1tDPmtj1ARc8C8Dg==,US,,1484414864 107119153,107125539,2017-01-14 17:29:58,Bump for Harambe,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484414998 107119153,107125800,2017-01-14 17:32:14,">>107119153 A bunch of losers...""sigh"" you will never see the light....",,Anonymous,1483306726053.jpg,Hq2tiBP52puv9R+1bLpAZw==,RO,,1484415134 107119153,107125916,2017-01-14 17:33:24,">>107119153 >libertarian >right Pick one degenerate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484415204 107119153,107126062,2017-01-14 17:34:41,help fill folder pls,,Anonymous,1482121367966.png,5N111eVS54GOuFywiMM7Ng==,US,,1484415281 107119153,107126192,2017-01-14 17:35:53,">>107125800 Yeah whatever man, if it means anything to you're a pretty cool guy and you can live in my society as long as you stick to removing kebab and don't bring any of that National (((Socialism))))",,Anonymous,hoppean-snake-mennes-physically-remove-kebab-tiie-iiiegenerator-net--josephus-8873370.png,mHg+97OrZAaFbga02pP/dQ==,US,,1484415353 107119153,107126568,2017-01-14 17:39:02,">>107119153 >""my beliefs are founded in individualism and are directly opposed to monarchy, empires, tradition, hierarchy, community, law and order, and the state"" >""but I am right wing because I don't like communists and progressives"" Kys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484415542 107119153,107126930,2017-01-14 17:42:19,,,Anonymous,1475978770547.jpg,UVuETVvYS9Rl4eGvqCVdkQ==,CA,,1484415739 107119153,107127283,2017-01-14 17:45:27,">>107119945 wtf is a libertarian fascist? You are authoritarian and non-authoritarian at the same time? Explain me your mental gymnastics",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484415927 107119153,107127333,2017-01-14 17:45:51,">>107122783 And this is why you're degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484415951 107119153,107127360,2017-01-14 17:46:06,">>107122783 >>107122250 >>107122059",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1482560922717.jpg,RfLI1Btp1rqR40VniazB8A==,US,,1484415966 107119153,107127496,2017-01-14 17:47:16,">>107126930 >leaf Thanks, I'll watch out for Canadians now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416036 107119153,107127639,2017-01-14 17:48:35,>>107127283,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1484214766757.jpg,/0cv1SdjnFW4Qn5+ut87oQ==,US,,1484416115 107119153,107127743,2017-01-14 17:49:23,">>107126568 that line you pasted dosent represent me personally. im down for tradition, hierachy and communities. just not for forcefully implementing it on everyone around me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416163 107119153,107127872,2017-01-14 17:50:25,">>107119153 I am a conservative capitalist. You can keep your liberitarian faggotry in the fag club",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1484416225 107119153,107128179,2017-01-14 17:52:57,free and stable NYer here. DONT FUCKING TREAD ON ME OR GET SHOT TO SHIT rrreeeeeee,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416377 107119153,107128229,2017-01-14 17:53:27,"What is this thread's opinion on Anarcho Capitalism; Is it a good system and why? Any reading recommended? I'd post ancap memes but all I have is Mutualism, sorry.",,Anonymous,when-your-ideology-is-completely-fucking-dead-mutualism-irl-3264341.png,odxVyS7O/f8Zi9gdBMcrPw==,US,,1484416407 107119153,107128369,2017-01-14 17:54:40,">>107127872 What do you like most about the free market? for me its the self-determinism. I like the idea of being able to make the future i want for myself. This is why I am a libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416480 107119153,107128428,2017-01-14 17:55:08,">>107128229 It's a noble goal to strive for",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416508 107119153,107128485,2017-01-14 17:55:38,">>107127639 >justifies the deportation of statists and in extreme cases the death penalty You're not a libertarian, then.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484416538 107119153,107128534,2017-01-14 17:55:55,">>107128428 Care to explain a bit more?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416555 107119153,107128539,2017-01-14 17:55:55,">>107127743 You sound very confused.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416555 107119153,107128619,2017-01-14 17:56:32,">>107124615 How is taxation theft? It's just payment for protection. The state is protecting each individual by achieving general order.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1484416592 107119153,107128790,2017-01-14 17:57:52,">>107128619 From what I've heard, it's theft because you get thrown in jail for not paying it, even if you don't use public services.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416672 107119153,107128962,2017-01-14 17:59:09,">>107128369 I agree for the free market, the fact that you can grow and the intelligent control the jobs is appealing, but the social aspect. Thats where my problems come in, lolbertarianism is too socialily lefty.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1484416749 107119153,107129119,2017-01-14 18:00:11,">>107128229 The board used to have a very high opinion of it. Back wen fascism was a meme to scare off /b/tards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416811 107119153,107129173,2017-01-14 18:00:39,All the property ITT is mine now.,,Anonymous,C2JuX2OXUAArYzX.jpg,DoGI2vOXqsDuqBYJKX/ZKA==,US,,1484416839 107119153,107129244,2017-01-14 18:01:15,">>107128619 It's not a payment if it's forced",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1484416875 107119153,107129463,2017-01-14 18:03:08,">>107129173 This brings up a good question I have. If someone conquers land and I enlist in the fight to reclaim it, can I take my payment in a small share of the land itself?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484416988 107119153,107129636,2017-01-14 18:04:22,">>107128539 whats wrong with that statement? >>107128962 Could you explain? I like the free market because I can use my capital to do whatever i want. I lke social freedom so I can do whatever i want.. I'm not into scat porn, i still have limits where i won't go. but you wanna jack off while someone poops on your face im not going to stop you unless you're on my lawn",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484417062 107119153,107130042,2017-01-14 18:07:30,">>107129173 All you prove w this is that corporations are aholes >>107129463 Depends did you agree on that or are you reconquering it independently?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484417250 107119153,107130696,2017-01-14 18:12:49,">>107128790 I've heard this as well, but it still doesn't touch on the general order thing. The existence of an efficient police and judicial system discourages other people to rob you or to scam you. By existing inside the society you use it's public services. >>107129244 It is because the state asks for payment for the services it has been providing protection to you in the period of time between your last payment and the current bill. Your refusal to pay can be countered by the state by it's refusal to provide you the protection that i've explained above, only by retracting your citizenship and expelling you out of its teritory. The state is generous to only throw you in jail.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1484417569 107119153,107130824,2017-01-14 18:13:55,">>107130042 Agreeing to do it with another.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484417635 107119153,107130999,2017-01-14 18:15:14,">>107130696 >The existence of an efficient police In Capitalist America, this is an oxymoron.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484417714 107119153,107131018,2017-01-14 18:15:22,>>107119153,,Anonymous,1483812680603.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1484417722 107119153,107131141,2017-01-14 18:16:28,">>107122250 >>107120871 Those are the faggots who believe that, See >>107131018",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484417788 107119153,107131344,2017-01-14 18:18:19,">>107119153 >How do we fix the NAP? or do we even need to? its a fundamentally dumb idea, it assumes that everyone will just want to hold hands and sing kumbaya like communism so with that in mind the government needs to at least have executive/military, as well as legislative, judiciary (& maybe police ). second a nation needs borders to define geographically where our law starts and ends. enforcing the laws and principles of liberty within our borders should be just enough. everything else can be left to the free market.",,Anonymous,libertarianism.png,XRvmnFFVc/X0e+5nHUoWVA==,AU,,1484417899 107233070,107233070,2017-01-15 11:50:56,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and incest greentext stories. Thread tunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YimA3KdcLFc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7foqCcOsI54 >post sneks >bump for life, liberty, and sweet pickup trucks Hey /pol/, why do you hate freedom?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - STAY AWAY FROM DIXIE EDITION,Anonymous,badge (6).png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1484481056 107233070,107233652,2017-01-15 11:56:46,">>107233070 Ayyy",,Anonymous,15418380_1193868100681507_8971089050486277909_o.png,nADBWJ+GxgLqfIp15rtKKg==,US,,1484481406 107233070,107236059,2017-01-15 12:20:50,">>107233070 We need more of these threads. Tired of seeing that spanish commie fag carpet bombing this place with his marxist trash.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484482850 107233070,107236333,2017-01-15 12:23:38,">>107236059 that's why Im here m8",,Anonymous,jacap.jpg,8cfif45/ztLkdpGtnuVsSg==,US,,1484483018 107233070,107236641,2017-01-15 12:26:47,Bump from a Fascist.,,Anonymous,Fasces.png,i/AQfBsM4Ch2uUFbpeOCZA==,US,,1484483207 107233070,107236795,2017-01-15 12:28:14,hi guys can i join this club too?,,Anonymous,8f4a56a7a9e5a31241e574ecd6fef9ca887a687c30b7169149aa611ab237de51_1.jpg,7LAx4JDbRS1Tg+jdWcs+Qg==,US,,1484483294 107233070,107236915,2017-01-15 12:29:19,">>107236641 Thanks bro, together we will rid our land of the commie menace >>107236795 anyone who isn't a faggot can hang here.",,Anonymous,badge (4).png,gHBSJychSk3TT1CCGIYTTg==,US,,1484483359 107233070,107236921,2017-01-15 12:29:20,Can I start posting Hoppe quotes?,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1484483360 107233070,107236923,2017-01-15 12:29:22,"say it with me TAXATION",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1484483362 107233070,107237014,2017-01-15 12:30:21,">>107236923 IS >>107236921 fuck yeah",,Anonymous,15622078_1199025693499081_2141521364100791095_n.png,HSRhqXOosdCV80w46sJgZQ==,US,,1484483421 107233070,107237068,2017-01-15 12:30:46,">>107236795 How the fuck can you be in favour of never being able to own land for real",,Anonymous,1456695373042.png,r8bDNW81yvzVQoyyIewyTg==,PL,,1484483446 107233070,107237119,2017-01-15 12:31:26,were we go,,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1484483486 107233070,107237167,2017-01-15 12:31:58,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1484483518 107233070,107237346,2017-01-15 12:33:35,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1484483615 107233070,107237517,2017-01-15 12:35:11,>>107237068,,Anonymous,14022090_1602333603399734_822120810670563864_n.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1484483711 107233070,107237605,2017-01-15 12:35:57,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1484483757 107233070,107237656,2017-01-15 12:36:39,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1484483799 107233070,107237694,2017-01-15 12:37:01,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1484483821 107233070,107237700,2017-01-15 12:37:05,">>107237517 Or he could buy an acre?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484483825 107233070,107237717,2017-01-15 12:37:13,">>107237517 Did you just post an image making fun of your own political quiz results?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1484483833 107233070,107237731,2017-01-15 12:37:21,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1484483841 107233070,107237768,2017-01-15 12:37:40,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1484483860 107233070,107237816,2017-01-15 12:38:03,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1484483883 107233070,107237823,2017-01-15 12:38:08,">>107236915 I'd much rather have healthy political debate with the libertarian right than any God forsaken leftist. Certainly, we will not agree on everything. But with leftists and commies, there is no agreeing on anything, because they are irrational, illogical and unreasonable.",,Anonymous,Fascism.png,c0AF7gGzylRD9zd4cRQWBg==,US,,1484483888 107233070,107237872,2017-01-15 12:38:39,"fucking thank you I missed having discussions like this, its been a while man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484483919 107233070,107237881,2017-01-15 12:38:47,,,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1484483927 107233070,107237901,2017-01-15 12:38:56,">>107237119 This one is good! The Libertarian party has become increasingly more about social progressivism. It is like a second home for progressives that happen to be fiscally responsible. It is not libertarian in the least. Even reading Reason I am beginning to see more articles that seem to be very left leaning. During the election, Reason at least in my eyes, seemed to attack Trump more than Clinton or Johnson.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484483936 107233070,107237918,2017-01-15 12:39:05,"How many countries were, in fact, libertarian? Oh, that's right 0",,Anonymous,1473104123724.jpg,gR3fo9iKrBfe83P5Nop1OA==,RU,,1484483945 107233070,107237934,2017-01-15 12:39:13,"https://youtu.be/HlBi5Yywgdc Tom Woods BTFO",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484483953 107233070,107238069,2017-01-15 12:40:26,">>107237901 The only uncucked websites left are Lew Rockwell, Mises Institute, Property and Freedom Society, and AmRen.",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,PT,,1484484026 107233070,107238099,2017-01-15 12:40:45,,,Anonymous,when the communist slips off the helicopter.png,csW5xl6/mwctUz4fmIQwfg==,PT,,1484484045 107233070,107238169,2017-01-15 12:41:30,">>107237700 >>107237717 Mutual use /= ownership it's fine to monopolize land as long as you pay the market rental value to those you're excluding. Rural land, being in low (or no) demand, often has no rental value and could be had for free. As more generations are born, and more people want to house/employ themselves in the location -- and are therefore willing and able to pay more rent for monopolizing the location -- they have every right to take it over. Even if you're occupying the spot -- which is often not the case with freehold -- from an economic perspective you shouldn't mind giving up the spot because -- again, assuming a fair economy in which the rent goes to the excluded and not the excluder -- you'll be receiving more (net, real) income as a result.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484484090 107233070,107238449,2017-01-15 12:43:53,"Dumping info on Most Libertarian/Best President Calvin Coolidge True traditionalist conservative who operated the country on the goal of shrinking government spending and economic interventionism in every way possible. He believed that the American worker is the backbone of the entire country, that taxes are a necessary evil and that evil must be as restricted as possible. He desired for families, business owners, Entrepreneurs, and the like to work less for the government and more for themselves. He believed that true success is achieved through perseverance, claiming that many men have genius and talent, but too often fall short in their struggles of life because they simply lack the will to persevere through times of discomforting doubt and pain. He was a patriot, caring not for the interests of other countries but only his own. He was a man who believed as the founding fathers did, isolationist as diplomacy, but globalist as economy. The deregulation of the American economy during his time prospered in a boom in the stock market, GDP, and wealth for all american peoples. The steady plan of free market growth would be planted in the redeeming years of the start of the great roaring twenties. Lastly, he was a man that understood equality as well as racial pride. He advocated for women's rights as well as frowning upon discrimination of Africans in his country. He valued the homogeneity of his great nation and passed acts to prohibit the immigration of corrupt and different peoples from dark corners of the world. In short, a great man who's ideology will be framed and put upon the wall of patriotism as a shining tribute to freedom, prosperity, and pride that will stand out among the many others that have been so honored to hold the most supreme power of this great nation.",,Anonymous,Calvin-Coolidge-shooting-gun1-e1361137124784.jpg,PEEyw03lY+4Mczd0j03DEQ==,US,,1484484233 107233070,107238632,2017-01-15 12:45:31,">>107237700 >>107237717 We Geolibertarians distinguish ourselves from right-wing, ""royal"" libertarians by our profound respect for the principle that one has private property in the fruits of one's labor. This includes the fruits of mental labor and the results of reinvestment of legitimate private property (capital) in future production. We remain consistent in that respect by recognizing, as did the classic liberals, that land and raw natural resources are not the fruits of labor, but a common heritage to be accessed on terms that are equal under the law for everyone. The statist system of land tenure empowers non-producing landlords to extract the fruits of tenants' labor. We also consider ourselves ""green"" in our respect for the earth as our common heritage. However, we clearly distinguish between land as common property and land as state property. Unlike left-wing or ""watermelon"" greens, we advocate governance of land in harmony with free market principles, and deny the right of statist bureaucracies to meddle in the affairs of individual land holders. We see ourselves as embracing the best attributes of the Green and Libertarian parties. Geolibertarians also believe in free trade, with no state support for monopoly privileges of any kind. We therefore oppose money monopolies, information monopolies, a host of lesser monopolies, and most of all, monopoly of the power to govern, as embodied by statist political systems. We are not nihilistic anarchists. We believe that monopoly privileges can be gently and methodically displaced without disrupting to society, even when statists resort to violence to prevent it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484484331 107233070,107238652,2017-01-15 12:45:41,">>107238449 Best stock market performance of any president ever. He also didn't create a bubble either, that was Hoovers fault intervening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta2m3D9Ig0g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ce6z-u_Wk0 Sources https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwZnExRb8zU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5FwoYx2d74 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0MRYgrHSP0 http://politicalhotwire.com/political-discussion/7573-traditional-conservative-vs-neoconservative.html Good reads: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/conncarroll/2014/02/17/the-greatest-conservative-president-in-american-history-n1787876 http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/02/calvin-coolidge-forefather-of-our-conservatism http://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817945725_3.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484484341 107233070,107238772,2017-01-15 12:46:43,">>107238652 forgot image also the bush stock market boom was because of a republican congress that made tax cuts, thank Gingrich for that",,Anonymous,Coolidge best stock market preformance.png,b2eFggOuEaN/DDKrUki6Kw==,US,,1484484403 107233070,107239281,2017-01-15 12:50:56,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1482560933686_0.jpg,+zuP9RnnsFEJ/+4cuIbBuA==,US,,1484484656 107233070,107239536,2017-01-15 12:53:10,">>107237918 The first 90 years of America and the CSA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484484790 107233070,107239927,2017-01-15 12:56:50,">>107239536 Slaves.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1484485010 107233070,107239976,2017-01-15 12:57:13,">>107239536 Maybe even longer than that if we figure in the period of the golden age of fraternalism and mutual benefit societies. That lasted up until the creation of the welfare state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484485033 107233070,107240397,2017-01-15 13:01:30,">>107237346 >>107237167 This is called being an authoritarian - pic heavily related.",,Anonymous,1462159938252.jpg,u/TqV7Y57b19z2cL6Z544w==,PT,,1484485290 107233070,107240649,2017-01-15 13:03:41,">>107237694 >>107237656 >>107237605 How is Hoppe's ""Libertarianism"" any different from Pinochet's Chile?",,Anonymous,1478409777901.jpg,BnbfpDrZOPyvv1GUXCGZRw==,PT,,1484485421 107233070,107241494,2017-01-15 13:10:44,What's the ideal form of government for libertarians?,,Anonymous,,,IT,,1484485844 107233070,107241746,2017-01-15 13:12:50,">>107233070 >Hey /pol/, why do you hate freedom? Enjoy your outsourced jobs and mass demographic replacement, cuck",,Anonymous,1473481055945.jpg,2sldpi+YncJBI1zut6Tzaw==,CA,,1484485970 107233070,107242075,2017-01-15 13:15:39,">>107241494 it varys from person to person ranging from anarcho-capitalism as the most extreme idealisticly to fairly authoritarian protection of private property but almost always socially libertarian goverments",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484486139 107233070,107242939,2017-01-15 13:23:53,">>107241746 >implying I won't live in a all-swede community",,Anonymous,1483916179641.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,SE,,1484486633 107233070,107243390,2017-01-15 13:27:39,">>107241494 Well for starters the smaller the better. I prefer more powers for the states than to the federal government. Also a positions towards a free market is imperative.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484486859 107233070,107243868,2017-01-15 13:32:03,Literally this thread,,Anonymous,16002784_1150670035031901_7443136880427481376_n.jpg,cn7zYt0hboGsOYZ1jwY0SA==,US,,1484487123 107233070,107244745,2017-01-15 13:39:44,">>107243868 >868 what did Thoth mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1484487584 107233070,107246131,2017-01-15 13:51:42,Bump for liberty,,Anonymous,1484432458303.jpg,qI4f6Ferw3nBlR/ikdhlXA==,US,,1484488302 107233070,107247926,2017-01-15 14:07:48,bump,,Anonymous,facLib.jpg,1YdMrj8/omKItN/SUl4miQ==,CA,,1484489268 107233070,107249290,2017-01-15 14:19:54,"Taxation is theft, unless it's for a wall",,Anonymous,1458220383045.jpg,qu2Npkoc++jaD1AwLX3Sdw==,US,,1484489994 107233070,107249384,2017-01-15 14:20:39,">>107238632 is geolibertarianism in any way related to georgism?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1484490039 107233070,107249712,2017-01-15 14:23:35,">>107247926 Basically this I certainly lean fascist but I can respect the pursuit of liberty and can recognize and appreciate its benefits",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484490215 107233070,107250147,2017-01-15 14:27:06,">>107233070 >being a lolbertarian in 2k17",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1484490426 107233070,107251087,2017-01-15 14:34:44,">>107249384 yes Henry George's ideas are the base of it State land vs. common land The distinction between common property and state property is lost on royal libertarians. Common property is that to which we all have inalienable rights. State property is that which the state actually owns, and can dispose of as it sees fit. For example, a public right of way is literally a right of way. Under principles of common law, nobody, not even the king, could close a traveled road and make it private property. A state maintenance truck, on the other hand, is state property, which can be sold if it no longer suits state purposes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484490884 107233070,107251199,2017-01-15 14:35:48,">>107249384 According to royal libertarians, land becomes private property when one mixes one's labor with it. And mixing what is yours with what is not yours in order to own the whole thing is considered great sport. But the notion is filled with problems. How much labor does it take to claim land, and how much land can one claim for that labor? And for how long can one make that claim? According to classical liberals, land belonged to the user for as long as the land was being used, and no longer. But according to royal libertarians, land belongs to the first user, forever. So, do the oceans belong to the heirs of the first person to take a fish out or put a boat in? Does someone who plows the same field each year own only one field, while someone who plows a different field each year owns dozens of fields? Should the builder of the first transcontinental railroad own the continent? Shouldn't we at least have to pay a toll to cross the tracks? Are there no common rights to the earth at all? To royal libertarians there are not, but classical liberals recognized that unlimited ownership of land never flowed from use, but from the state: A right of property in movable things is admitted before the establishment of government. A separate property in lands not till after that establishment.... He who plants a field keeps possession of it till he has gathered the produce, after which one has as good a right as another to occupy it. Government must be established and laws provided, before lands can be separately appropriated and their owner protected in his possession. Till then the property is in the body of the nation. --Thomas Jefferson",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484490948 107233070,107252813,2017-01-15 14:49:16,Are tradwives allowed in an Anarcho-Fascist social order?,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1484491756 107233070,107252927,2017-01-15 14:50:10,">>107233070 CUTE SNAKE",,Anonymous,1478473351292.jpg,LcAfXJeo1nU/GmuXmYRJrw==,US,,1484491810 107233070,107253002,2017-01-15 14:50:44,">>107240649 Stateless and consistent with property rights.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1484491844 107233070,107253107,2017-01-15 14:51:31,">>107252927 top snek",,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1484491891 107233070,107253403,2017-01-15 14:53:59,">>107249290 taking out a loan to be paid for by someone else =/= additional taxes, breh. >>107233070 >tfw poor as shit all my life until i learned the power of money >tfw i now trade forex >tfw capitalism is enabling me to ride money all the way to a significantly upgraded lifestyle >tfw sweeping tax cuts for everyone thanks to president trump >tfw more economic freedom >tfw none of my social liberties are being curbed >tfw loads of delicious, medical grade marijuana in my near future >tfw financial security and prosperity will finally be within reach for the first time in my life feel with me, freedom loving patriots. i'm finally gonna do it. i'm gonna make it. god help me, I'M GONNA MAKE IT.",,Anonymous,patriotic boner inc.jpg,PqK14AEIYDzQRcZsTqVt8g==,US,,1484492039 107233070,107253707,2017-01-15 14:56:21,cool kids thread,,Anonymous,C120vL0XAAA5zbh.jpg,7XX4APC+ikI8eBpvqaXfGA==,ES,,1484492181 107233070,107253923,2017-01-15 14:57:58,">>107253403 I feel patriot. Godspeed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484492278 107233070,107253944,2017-01-15 14:58:09,">>107237014 THEFT",,Anonymous,1475699841876.jpg,23Jaiauisv86DFkuq5VkGg==,US,,1484492289 107233070,107254029,2017-01-15 14:58:49,">>107251199 you're few thousands of years late to play that game mate, all resources has already been claimed feels bad",,Anonymous,im-not-resisting-10-796026.png,a7ALYWbdrQJynudZ5FyxAg==,ES,,1484492329 107233070,107254064,2017-01-15 14:59:05,>>107252927,,Anonymous,libertarians.png,C7ob3u658lEkehb/is2/iQ==,US,,1484492345 107233070,107254240,2017-01-15 15:00:30,,,Anonymous,AESTHETICHOPPE8.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1484492430 107233070,107254306,2017-01-15 15:01:04,,,Anonymous,PINOSTHETIC1.jpg,DqT2uqciI/0RKUHe2a99WQ==,US,,1484492464 107233070,107254428,2017-01-15 15:01:58,,,Anonymous,tumblr_oacb36PZPh1rmtwl0o1_400.png,IU3616JdkeuM0tvIXo9ZyA==,US,,1484492518 107233070,107254838,2017-01-15 15:05:29,can anyone summarice the origin of the trow commies from helicopters meme?,,Anonymous,roadless-frog.jpg,qloqtbOuzLDVf8kyNr17Xw==,ES,,1484492729 107233070,107254859,2017-01-15 15:05:40,">>107253923 thanks, family. here, allow me to distribute a (you) of my own to you. not because some outside group is making me do so, but because i approve of your message and would like to empower it so that i may see more like it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484492740 107233070,107255080,2017-01-15 15:07:26,">>107254838 Augusto Pinochet had commies thrown out of Helicopters in Chile, and was advised by Milton Friedman on his economic policy, and then the Chilean Miracle happened",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484492846 107233070,107255633,2017-01-15 15:11:48,,,Anonymous,123890701937.jpg,lpkN2QCQd+enK3whKjcEMw==,AR,,1484493108 107233070,107255634,2017-01-15 15:11:49,,,Anonymous,15622763_558407667702409_7554867352884137795_n.jpg,083vkNVxZSoplilwoyYvtg==,US,,1484493109 107233070,107255736,2017-01-15 15:12:35,>>107255633,,Anonymous,post roads.jpg,+DnMSWBw+EbjL8Wqoc+EQA==,GB,,1484493155 107233070,107255885,2017-01-15 15:13:49,"Identity politics will never go away. Tribalism will never go away. Stop fighting it. Just embrace it.",,Anonymous,Identity Politics.jpg,URAM/2fsvrhEy8ar5b8KYA==,IE,,1484493229 107233070,107255920,2017-01-15 15:14:05,">>107233070 gtfo.... this is nazi/christian board",,Anonymous,bazjw5cl0b9x.jpg,iQ4zeCqB+4LsUUeNZKTk7w==,SK,,1484493245 107233070,107256239,2017-01-15 15:16:34,Bump for the liberation and freedom,,Anonymous,1484244028150.jpg,pY4rPbJPEIUs8fgZOhUa1g==,RU,,1484493394 107233070,107256253,2017-01-15 15:16:38,">>107255920 read the fucking sticky m8",,Anonymous,sticky.png,R2Ws3mQXc1jiGUtkKHQYtQ==,GB,,1484493398 107233070,107256280,2017-01-15 15:16:54,,,Anonymous,1484243985377.png,G1qyL/GLUVAUjuuArIkHxg==,RU,,1484493414 107233070,107256508,2017-01-15 15:18:50,">>107355920 we make up at least a quarter of this board. get used to us.",,Anonymous,1392271844975.png,I9N7/mBw7AuUAFqhBqzmfg==,US,,1484493530 107233070,107256566,2017-01-15 15:19:17,">>107255920 how is christianity not compatible with lolbergtarianism?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1484493557 107233070,107256709,2017-01-15 15:20:24,">>107255736 But the problem is that the government does a lot more than roads, and that taxes are collected regularly, hence the Government has more money then it needs. Then it uses this money to suppress your freedom. The answer to that would be a minimalist government that would do taxes with a clear purpose and a set goal, pretty much like kickstarter. With modern technology it would be easy to implement such a system.",,Anonymous,1484229228690.png,7pxzBOPQMBcE7IN8NsL3ZQ==,RU,,1484493624 107233070,107256782,2017-01-15 15:20:55,">>107255920 We make up atleast %30 of this board. Get used to us",,Anonymous,1392271844975.png,I9N7/mBw7AuUAFqhBqzmfg==,US,,1484493655 107233070,107258229,2017-01-15 15:32:02,bump.,,Anonymous,Centepede.png,wZ69a0hC5RAbPNgD5HoMCA==,US,,1484494322 107233070,107258736,2017-01-15 15:35:45,,,Anonymous,sanders.jpg,7LSMThFpdmgi0p0NGLsWVg==,GB,,1484494545 107233070,107259663,2017-01-15 15:43:00,">>107256709 Please spread my asshole Russian Comrade.",,Anonymous,1479994047672.png,1YbYfj/Ii/fTtKqMJ+GXzQ==,US,,1484494980 107233070,107259713,2017-01-15 15:43:18,,,Anonymous,arms.jpg,klTmr8nOlfzqdkAEWbMfjA==,GB,,1484494998 107233070,107261116,2017-01-15 15:54:20,Top Snek,,Anonymous,0d6.png,GASqj1gE3FW0Kf2gu/6xbw==,US,,1484495660 107233070,107263288,2017-01-15 16:11:31,,,Anonymous,remove.png,Nrx+cxQCzj86/KroRDrnKQ==,US,,1484496691 107233070,107264243,2017-01-15 16:19:16,"Reminder that the (((left-right dichotomy))) is a false dichotomy used by the (((Jews))) to prevent people who love freedom from uniting with other people who love freedom. Fuck the left wing and fuck the right wing. Fuck anarcho-socialism and fuck anarcho-capitalism. Anarchism without adjectives, true libertarianism, is all that matters. If you disagree, then fuck off back to (((Israel))).",,Anonymous,together4.png,xFFhWmqJpL2Wulo+jmGmjQ==,CA,,1484497156 107233070,107264699,2017-01-15 16:22:43,">>107264243 Are you trying to subvert me goy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484497363 107233070,107267182,2017-01-15 16:42:24,"discord for pol https://discord.gg/7UrS3KR",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484498544 107233070,107267918,2017-01-15 16:48:08,">>107240649 >>107240397 Nah, senpai. In Chile, if you were a leftist communist you would be thrown out of a helicopter despite paying taxes (and therefore being entitled to access public property and government services) and not harming anyone in the first place. You would not have the self-ownership of your body or the things which you have justly acquired. In Hoppe's society there would be no public property (since everything is privately owned) and therefore you would have absolutely no right to even step on someone else's lands unless you were given explicit permission to do so. So if you were ""physically removed"" it would completely be in tone with private property rights. Also, you couldn't just get flung out from a helicopter because of the proportionate punishment system. You would have to be first asked to leave, and only if you refused would things escalate into physical violence.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484498888 107233070,107268645,2017-01-15 16:53:27,">>107264699 Oy vey Shlomo. Your end is nigh.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484499207 107233070,107270334,2017-01-15 17:06:04,"What does liberarianism do to stop degeneracy? oh right nothing",,Anonymous,1397541873075.jpg,Onw+sPSKnGGTt1ifwadrdw==,IT,,1484499964 107233070,107270424,2017-01-15 17:06:45,">>107233070 Anyone recommend some good libertarian philosophy books? I've already read Rothbard's ""For a New Liberty."" Bonus points for something by Hoppe",,Anonymous,1477599564940.jpg,2erqFoRnh6YXAAwueHRKiw==,US,,1484500005 107233070,107271013,2017-01-15 17:11:25,">>107270424 Dtgtf",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484500285 107233070,107271295,2017-01-15 17:13:30,">>107233070 >Stay away from Dixie Why? I'm already here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484500410 107233070,107271368,2017-01-15 17:14:02,">>107271295 Wait nvm. I just got it. Little slow today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484500442 107233070,107271443,2017-01-15 17:14:35,">>107270424 I already posted what you need here >>107238099",,Anonymous,physical removal.png,iOWpG5LvqvA6Z4IT/WA/dw==,PT,,1484500475 107233070,107271732,2017-01-15 17:16:56,">>107270334 Cause it's totally not like it's the result of government subsidizing such a lifestyle through the welfare state, and promoting it through funding leftist education in Universities...",,Anonymous,z61fwsY.jpg,+nCaiFJjGQaRLRrYiROuIw==,US,,1484500616 107233070,107272216,2017-01-15 17:20:35,">>107270334 >boo hoo hoo naked people! I for one fully support people's right to public nudity. It's the human body, you have one too, stop being such a little baby about it. as for >muh degeneracy! Most of it is caused by single mothers getting paid by the government $1000s for each child they shit out.",,Anonymous,greek athlete contrapposto.jpg,t/qgDy4EKmVGQIGulZymDA==,US,,1484500835 107233070,107272801,2017-01-15 17:24:46,">>107271732 >Cause it's totally not like it's the result of government subsidizing such a lifestyle through the welfare state, this only accounts for the poor being degenerate. what of the upperclass and hollywood celebrities? I.E. Miley Cyrus types with continue in full force because their degeneracy is profitable. >promoting it through funding leftist education in Universities... where is leftism being funded? education is, but the current decadence of college aged individuals isn't",,Anonymous,14724506_868702569927812_499942939126800501_n.jpg,ORJgMXYMBmnTn0lFScJqiw==,IT,,1484501086 107233070,107273917,2017-01-15 17:34:01,">>107251087 >>107251199 bumping I can certainly respect it. A great example, if I correctly understand, it, would be the so called common lands and the charter of the forest in mediëval England. basically land owned by the crown directly, not by nobility, and as such it was open to the commoners. so they had communal grounds for grazing, they had the right to collect firewood, forage the forest for nuts and such to feed the hogs, communal water pits,.... sadly this was done away with with the enclosures system in the 18th century. another example would be today the scandinavian law concept of ""freedom to roam""? You have any books I can read about it?",,Anonymous,Lord Acton.jpg,GNQ4wSVCddn2EClvDQ4V6w==,BE,,1484501641 107233070,107273955,2017-01-15 17:34:20,">>107272801 Has more to do with the downfall of the family which has been promoted by Hollywood and the Media (oh and in education too). Upper class people are always going to engage in ""degenerate"" behavior. That's the result of having that much power/and control over your surroundings. look throughout history bruh, the upper classes are just as degenerate as the poor if not more so.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484501660 107233070,107274004,2017-01-15 17:34:41,">>107238099 my god, so much citing of fucking mises.com just, no. and one advice: never base your entire world view on a single author",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484501681 107233070,107274175,2017-01-15 17:36:16,">>107274004 He's just citing essential works bruh...",,Anonymous,1484077625748.png,OiVSDGbnBIgmp3ySm9+04A==,US,,1484501776 107233070,107274551,2017-01-15 17:39:17,">>107273955 >Has more to do with the downfall of the family which has been promoted by Hollywood and the Media (oh and in education too). >Upper class people are always going to engage in ""degenerate"" behavior. That's the result of having that much power/and control over your surroundings. >look throughout history bruh, the upper classes are just as degenerate as the poor if not more so. this post is so defeatist this literally can be solved with national socialism. Libertarianism does nothing.",,Anonymous,13330891_479541195575706_4728653980078044433_n.jpg,CesBqdXpxl/Y3u0BKvfq/w==,IT,,1484501957 107233070,107274852,2017-01-15 17:42:00,">>107274551 Oh, ok...",,Anonymous,1484263091622.jpg,a7J+zzGxOke7onga0nE0hQ==,US,,1484502120 107233070,107274904,2017-01-15 17:42:29,Lolbertarians are just conservatives who don't want to accept the redpill.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484502149 107233070,107275915,2017-01-15 17:50:40,,,Anonymous,15784692_10212542756749022_1885312378_o.jpg,E+esrqP8+8ifiJCOqIJqmA==,US,,1484502640 107233070,107276229,2017-01-15 17:53:01,">>107274852 then your ""people will always be degenerate"" is not an argument",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1484502781 107233070,107277439,2017-01-15 18:01:44,">>107276229 I didn't claim that ""people will always be degenerate"". I said that ""degeneracy"" is common in the upper classes because of their position. Having that much control of your surroundings has an interesting correlation with actions that you would likely see as ""degenerate"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484503304 107233070,107277864,2017-01-15 18:04:50,">>107277439 so then what does libertarianism do to stop this societal decay?",,Anonymous,1379629703401.jpg,6ZQ5PwDjgQz99p6hPrpkuA==,IT,,1484503490 107233070,107278136,2017-01-15 18:06:47,">>107277864 Private Helicopter Removal Services",,Anonymous,5210.png,ELxHuTqpU1W26dq7I4IkmQ==,US,,1484503607 107233070,107278662,2017-01-15 18:10:40,">>107270334 That trash is sponsored by the government using your money >>107272801 The world have worse problems than expensive strippers",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484503840 107233070,107278851,2017-01-15 18:12:02,">>107270334 private rules are strict, you can't do what is not allowed private rules can come from individuals or colectives/asociations/corporations, that are voluntary obv, that allows a framework that goes from nude beach to beaches where you can't show your skin, cuz you know, rules are made by rightful owners corporations work around with democracy alright, whoever does not agree with the direction can sell his participation of it",,Anonymous,gxpqZ1kjiM_HhHTxgha0LK_GQxi744SMA1aPEwYHBSo.jpg,LcjRErIQGG1iAP75X2L5nQ==,ES,,1484503922 107233070,107279062,2017-01-15 18:13:38,">>107278662 >That trash is sponsored by the government using your money Gay pride has tons of corporate support, try again >The world have worse problems than expensive strippers not an argument/defeatism",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,2L11bG3QpaiPqaGOQeG5wA==,IT,,1484504018 107233070,107279405,2017-01-15 18:16:04,">>107279062 >corporate support Try again bruh...",,Anonymous,1432019243359.png,P0F2nTXGvvGUmBIFxbrhCg==,US,,1484504164 107233070,107279568,2017-01-15 18:17:09,">>107278851 the most successful people is likely the ones who are going to set most rule standards being a degenerate and reaching the highest levels of economic success doesn't really happen it's really pesimistic to expect anarchy would enforce the worst to set the rules around their weaknesses and sinning nature, democracy does that not the market",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484504229 107233070,107279759,2017-01-15 18:18:44,">>107278851 >private rules are strict private rules don't stop degeneracy when it is profitable",,Anonymous,43423.png,3lM63+S67qfNcfCWwEh87g==,IT,,1484504324 107233070,107279842,2017-01-15 18:19:27,">>107279405 >>corporate support >Try again bruh... its literally in the picture.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1484504367 107233070,107280077,2017-01-15 18:21:08,">>107279568 >being a degenerate and reaching the highest levels of economic success doesn't really happen what are you talking about of course it happens.",,Anonymous,1395018386863.jpg,3fLzkytNAVzwkPjG8O8TKQ==,IT,,1484504468 107233070,107280419,2017-01-15 18:23:57,">>107279842 >corporate corporations are a government created fiction that allow for limited liability on behalf of the people in charge of the business. No government no corporations Try again bruh...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484504637 107233070,107280730,2017-01-15 18:26:18,">>107279759 that's not true, let's take prostitution at singapore or australia, it's legal but it may only happen in particular neightbourhoods in the cities so that degenerancy is kept isolated. the difference with everything you're used to is that the rules comes out from the people directly, horizontaly, so problems get solved in straight lines when people are treated with respect and trust on their capacities to be valuable to society, and they apreciate their personal progress without from simulations of videogames, but in real life as it should be, there's not as many reasons to strive for degenerancy to cope with a void and nihilistic existence degenerancy is not a cause of problems, it's a consequence of how fucked up society and individual incentives around life have been transformed due to abusive control",,Anonymous,1483914792007.jpg,Gh4Ph88tv8iiXDN0Z9S6sw==,ES,,1484504778 107233070,107280974,2017-01-15 18:28:19,">>107280730 THIS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484504899 107233070,107281082,2017-01-15 18:29:11,"Libertarian = Free Trade = Free Movement of Labor = Open Borders Free Trade = Anti-tariff = No Native Industry",,Anonymous,1479529348984.jpg,gAEaPcwpsJNef04ZXSpY+Q==,US,,1484504951 107233070,107281429,2017-01-15 18:32:00,">>107280730 >that's not true, let's take prostitution at singapore or australia, it's legal but it may only happen in particular neightbourhoods in the cities so that degenerancy is kept isolated. how is this make my statement ""not true""? also legalizing it just keeps it going also you're cherry picking. >degenerancy is not a cause of problems this is pretty much changing the subject. we were talking about how libertarians fails to stop degeneracy and you're failing to make an argument for that.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1484505120 107233070,107281585,2017-01-15 18:33:27,"people start getting real world professional expirience at +22 years old, that's fucked up and due to statism (public education) you could perfectly study those grades at your teens without investing studies on worthless unrelated shit to life/market and career goals you must realice how shitty the economy is nowadays, centuries ago there was only low entry jobs, and people made families with +5 kids with them, marrying at their twenties statism is making life hardmode, that's what cause people to tend to degenerancy, that's it, it's a consequence",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484505207 107233070,107281733,2017-01-15 18:34:47,">>107281429 So you're ok with Private Helicopter Removal Services then?",,Anonymous,9323624_G.jpg,jbRhOFGCmO+kHS6Ej6MfBA==,US,,1484505287 107233070,107281795,2017-01-15 18:35:27,">>107281585 >Degeneracy is a consequence of statism Not really.",,Anonymous,1484385148612.png,4tM2Ni9Iu7Z9boKNhYQMKw==,US,,1484505327 107233070,107281944,2017-01-15 18:36:36,How do you feel about Open Borders and Protectionism?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484505396 107233070,107282267,2017-01-15 18:39:16,">>107281795 mfw Hitler was a coked out ""degenerate""",,Anonymous,1484074483846.png,6eBGPepwuhNWHg7O13ZuhA==,US,,1484505556 107233070,107282517,2017-01-15 18:41:22,">>107281429 well, I may give you half a point on that, it's socialism",,Anonymous,ebd4b5103d31b0e5bbc44209d06513bf9b383202_hq.jpg,79ClzxBgRmNOWqYvKiKSqg==,ES,,1484505682 107233070,107283125,2017-01-15 18:46:42,">>107282517 meant to reply >>107281795 to >>107281429 freedom doesn't lead to procrastination, nihilism and degeneracy, prosperity is a cure for them when you have circunstances where you're stealing from the mistreated youngs to pay the priviledges of the aged, and you tax them to hell, legislate around real state so much there's no way to feed demand and rent/living becomes hell expensive, you end like fucking japan with a society of misfits that do not even want to fuck",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484506002 107233070,107283427,2017-01-15 18:49:04,">>107237881 I never actually thought about that statement. Hoppe may be the most based individual on earth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484506144 107233070,107283724,2017-01-15 18:51:30,">>107281082 having industry jobs around doesn't boost your quality of living even a bit there's no job scarcity just because human necesities are never ending, once you fullfill a priority you seek to fulfill the next one there's no less employment because shitholes hoard all industries, this only happens where the market is fucked up by labour legislation/socialist policies/big public institutions",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484506290 107233070,107284114,2017-01-15 18:54:50,">>107281082 its true, I was die hard ancap before trump and white nationalism",,Anonymous,1484519131802.jpg,HV5x1QhZHH2/oUsUNerE8Q==,US,,1484506490 107233070,107284273,2017-01-15 18:56:07,>>107237918,,Anonymous,tfw_leafs_doing_better_than_you.jpg,uKhUj5cCycBw1eHGlr2hFA==,ES,,1484506567 107233070,107285797,2017-01-15 19:08:49,">>107264243 Left right dichotomy is a misrepresentation. The scale moves from authoritarian communism to anarcho-capitalism. What you are describing as anarchy is actually anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484507329 107233070,107287929,2017-01-15 19:26:34,>>107285797,,Anonymous,cat_girls.jpg,9jC3JAZ45GZUp6aZx6zF9w==,ES,,1484508394 107376653,107376653,2017-01-16 11:34:42,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and Intergalactic Genocide. Thread tunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NzA4XLjRaM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ6FjUeQ5Zc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFj-rkoctAw >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of violence againt communists",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - LET THEM SLAY EDITION,Anonymous,badge (2).png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1484566482 107376653,107376858,2017-01-16 11:36:44,">>107376653 Just leaving this here friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSlCvHA7zE",,Anonymous,1483832203273.gif,OUg9WNM9hOB9pS3sUMZ8vg==,US,,1484566604 107376653,107376984,2017-01-16 11:38:02,Can I start posting Hoppe?,,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1484566682 107376653,107377060,2017-01-16 11:38:45,">>107376858 agreed, libertarian are subverted fags >>107376984 you know it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484566725 107376653,107377206,2017-01-16 11:40:14,">>107377060 >agreed, libertarian party are subverted fags wew, fixed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484566814 107376653,107377231,2017-01-16 11:40:26,,,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1484566826 107376653,107377365,2017-01-16 11:41:42,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1484566902 107376653,107377367,2017-01-16 11:41:44,">>107377206 Fuck the libertarian party and fuck gary johnson. He was the biggest idiot i have ever seen. He does not represent libertarianism, only himself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484566904 107376653,107377563,2017-01-16 11:43:38,">>107377367 pic related",,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1484567018 107376653,107377658,2017-01-16 11:44:32,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1484567072 107376653,107377667,2017-01-16 11:44:37,Yeah I'm trying to build a good OP but I wanna avoid an ugly wall of text that people will just scroll past anyway way to condense all this shit? maybe one link that will take you to all of these?,,Anonymous,1478366978995.png,bSsOGjExETaHXru84sd3Pg==,US,,1484567077 107376653,107377819,2017-01-16 11:46:09,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1484567169 107376653,107377924,2017-01-16 11:47:10,What are your stances on drugs?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484567230 107376653,107378036,2017-01-16 11:48:13,">>107377924 I'm not for the goverment enforcing drug laws. its your families resposibility to keep you from shooting up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484567293 107376653,107378194,2017-01-16 11:49:38,">>107377924 That depends. If you're a minarchist then you admit there's public property, so you have to be pro-drugs. If you're an anarcho-capitalist, then you acknowledge there is no public property, and therefore the ""stance on drugs"" becomes irrelevant since each property owner decides what is or isn't allowed to take in his property.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1484567378 107376653,107378327,2017-01-16 11:50:50,">>107378036 That's pretty much how I feel about it. I don't care what people do in the privacy of their home.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484567450 107376653,107378340,2017-01-16 11:50:54,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1484567454 107376653,107378456,2017-01-16 11:51:52,more like Liebertarian amirite?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484567512 107376653,107378529,2017-01-16 11:52:37,">>107378327 Right on. Stay a while, here have a snek.",,Anonymous,1484432458303.jpg,qI4f6Ferw3nBlR/ikdhlXA==,US,,1484567557 107376653,107378724,2017-01-16 11:54:21,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1484567661 107376653,107378960,2017-01-16 11:56:15,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1484567775 107376653,107379017,2017-01-16 11:56:46,That's a pretty edgy op image for a bunch of pacifist pussies and faggots.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484567806 107376653,107379158,2017-01-16 11:58:00,,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1484567880 107376653,107379195,2017-01-16 11:58:21,">107379017 No one here is a pacifist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484567901 107376653,107379349,2017-01-16 11:59:29,">>107379017 >libertarians >pacifists You don't think those communist faggots are going to physically remove themselves right?",,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1484567969 107376653,107379475,2017-01-16 12:00:30,">>107379017 No one here is a pacifist.",,Anonymous,1482187323982.png,6VizFF6NSqApQCDNtwXcVg==,US,,1484568030 107376653,107379658,2017-01-16 12:02:13,">>107376653 Not letting me violate the NAP is statism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484568133 107376653,107380232,2017-01-16 12:07:33,">>107379658 violation of the NAP results in self defense, not goverment action.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484568453 107376653,107380348,2017-01-16 12:08:45,">>107379475 >when you buy a propriety full of niggers but they refuse to get out and you gas them all Thats the world I want to live in",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484568525 107376653,107380383,2017-01-16 12:09:00,">>107380232 Self defence is individual statism localised to a singular level",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484568540 107376653,107380632,2017-01-16 12:11:14,">>107380383 Yes, you're right. you own yourself and can use force to defend yourself justifiably.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484568674 107376653,107380671,2017-01-16 12:11:36,,,Anonymous,the family.jpg,pEgr2mcLJaMPJU5Jth4A4g==,PT,,1484568696 107376653,107381214,2017-01-16 12:16:11,">>107380671 wow I knew the guy was based. But i didn't know he was THAT based. I guess im a #hoppemissle now.",,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1484568971 107376653,107382199,2017-01-16 12:24:45,,,Anonymous,Back to the Anarcho Capitalism.jpg,mzDsIyxu5DlC2tbCWyQVNQ==,US,,1484569485 107376653,107382716,2017-01-16 12:29:32,">>107380632 Wrong. Self defence is oppressive to the attacker",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484569772 107376653,107382994,2017-01-16 12:32:05,">>107376653 Libertarinism is dead. Personal responsibility doesn't speak to people.",,Anonymous,aOBR7H.jpg,jBDA3gfetBqWNQQm1ySGKg==,CA,,1484569925 107376653,107383149,2017-01-16 12:33:30,">>107377667 Focus on one thing in the OP to get a conversation started and put the general links in a second post",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484570010 107376653,107383552,2017-01-16 12:37:03,">>107382716 That's the purpose of self defense dingus. To oppress your attackers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484570223 107376653,107384198,2017-01-16 12:42:22,">>107383552 Then you are no different than a statist. A true libertarian surrenders",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484570542 107376653,107384387,2017-01-16 12:43:54,">>107384198 Alright then, turn the other cheek and fuck off Randy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484570634 107376653,107384714,2017-01-16 12:46:47,">>107376653 >""I'm pro-individualism, against the state, hierarchy, monarchy, empires, tradition, law and order, and community."" >""b-but I'm totally right-wing because I don't like commies"" KYS",,Anonymous,a03.jpg,E3dluyFeT0F8zDxxaiPjng==,US,,1484570807 107376653,107384964,2017-01-16 12:49:00,>>107384198,,Anonymous,1471273761609.png,WGJXdZ+uww1oz1DWtRsTPA==,CA,,1484570940 107376653,107385383,2017-01-16 12:52:35,">>107384714 >confusing degenerate libertarians with /pol/ libertarians Fascism is totalitarian centrist",,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,kiyb9JLRMDKMdJSJxEgV3w==,CA,,1484571155 107376653,107385427,2017-01-16 12:52:58,">>107384714 none of those things are right wing in america. except law and order i guess",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484571178 107376653,107385762,2017-01-16 12:55:51,">>107384714 If you believe tradution will be preserved through state ordained force, you are an idiot >The only way to maintain order and virtue is through the family unit and church >If you are too much of a cuck to keep your kids in check through your own diligwnce, and yield to the power of an oppresive state, whose political and ideological allegience can be swayed at any moment, your bloodline does not deserve to survive the winter.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484571351 107376653,107386122,2017-01-16 12:58:45,">>107377563 The contemporary Libertarian Party is a weird Koch Bros. front made up of Ayn Rand fanboys. The smaller government, more freedom foundation of Libertarian thought isn't something a lot of socialists would probably get down with as it requires the community to be more involved with matters of government spending.",,Anonymous,NoStep.jpg,/gRLtmUF/1FrnLaRmfJ1GA==,US,,1484571525 107376653,107386615,2017-01-16 13:02:54,">>107379475 That's one of the best AnCap balls I've seen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484571774 107376653,107386814,2017-01-16 13:04:37,">>107386615 heres the supersized version",,Anonymous,ancap.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,US,,1484571877 107376653,107386897,2017-01-16 13:05:14,>>107386615,,Anonymous,1481426401483.jpg,u8CmCYn30YTKX3Pes6TVSQ==,CA,,1484571914 107376653,107387127,2017-01-16 13:07:07,">>107385383 >/pol/ libertarians >not a bunch of pothead NEETS who want to fuck boipucci and furries >>107385427 Which is why the overton window needs to be moved to the right. >>107385762 >The only way to maintain order and virtue is through the family unit and church Well you can say this but that doesn't make it true.",,Anonymous,1481854848536.jpg,uT40Fu3E7wEknhqFQdiOnQ==,US,,1484572027 107376653,107388086,2017-01-16 13:14:53,">>107387127 >>The only way to maintain order and virtue is through the family unit and church >Well you can say this but that doesn't make it true. Not an argument",,Anonymous,1484261146587.jpg,FNbGI3Hr+0JimtnvIxY6yA==,CA,,1484572493 107376653,107388490,2017-01-16 13:18:04,">>107387127 What would you have maintain virtue instead, a statist government? >The Liberal Dystopian government present in most of our countries still can't stop /pol/ from subverting them. >Monarchies, fascist regimes, etc will always fail to extreme decadence. When all it takes is one person in your entire society to become degenerate, for the whole society succumb to decadence, you have a problem. >In a libertarian society, virtue is fought off at each man, household, and community. >Remember, if there is a totalitarian regime, traditionalists won't be the ones with their fingers on the trigger. >It'll be radical leftists dictating monogamy to be ""oppresive"" against whores. They will decree physical health an injustice against fat people. They will claim that being white is an aggression against people of color, and must be paid for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484572684 107376653,107389522,2017-01-16 13:26:32,">>107377667 nice meme lad",,Anonymous,reply to this post or your mother dies in her sleep tonight.gif,eXcdfFodf0cS5eZW09K+1Q==,SK,,1484573192 107376653,107389746,2017-01-16 13:28:06,">>107388086 You didn't make an argument either, you made a false statement, and called me an idiot. Give me an actual argument and I will respond in kind.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484573286 107376653,107389930,2017-01-16 13:29:16,">>107382994 To niggers, you mean. Don't worry about those, the removal of the welfare state will sort them out.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1484573356 107376653,107390076,2017-01-16 13:30:24,">>107384198 No, a libertarian slaughters every threat in advance to save not only his own liberty, but also the liberty of others. This is the only form of violent collectivism in a libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,hoppe libertarianism.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,SK,,1484573424 107376653,107390153,2017-01-16 13:31:03,">>107388490 A totalitarian state implies an inorganic state, which I do not support. I support the organic state. >In a libertarian society, virtue is fought off at each man, household, and community A libertarian state cannot even affirm the idea of the household or community, much less any idea of ""virtue"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484573463 107376653,107390670,2017-01-16 13:35:11,">>107384714 >pro-individualism yes >against the state yes >hierarchy Not really, you're the lord of your land and property. Other than that, yup. >monarchy I guess you could install yourself as a king of your property, with people willingly becoming your subjects. Hoppe even praises monarchy because the ruler has to fear for his life if he fucks up. >empires Long as you don't break the NAP along the way, you're good. >tradition Liberty is the most underrated tradition of your founding fathers, and has roots deeper than any other tradition. >law and order Ever heard of the NAP? All violence against freedom-loving people is grounds for penalty by anyone of their allies. >community How else you think a stateless society will rule itself? By separating itself into communities, of course. It gets lonely out there. Weak.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1484573711 107376653,107391085,2017-01-16 13:38:19,">>107376653 Happy James Earl Ray day Ghost",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484573899 107376653,107391435,2017-01-16 13:41:08,">>107390670 Liberty is a meme, and none of this can be understood as right-wing in any sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484574068 107376653,107391478,2017-01-16 13:41:26,">>107389930 Would require a civil war or revolution to happen won't happen through the democratic process. >>107389746 The best way to maintain order, tradition and virtue is through the community of the nuclear family and church. The degradation of both in the present has led to the undermining of order tradition and virtue.",,Anonymous,1471849417839.gif,Usla6W3nh8aMXcDOoI+9zA==,CA,,1484574086 107376653,107391621,2017-01-16 13:42:30,">>107391435 Liberty ceased to be a meme when the Americans threw British tea into the Boston harbour.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1484574150 107376653,107391644,2017-01-16 13:42:41,">>107391435 What is your definition of right-wing?",,Anonymous,haidt moral differences.png,il3Tm7seLeDZ04L5ZRzLYw==,CA,,1484574161 107376653,107391731,2017-01-16 13:43:20,">>107391478 Then civil war it is. Democracy is a stupid process, anyway. You shouldn't make decisions for people you don't even know.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1484574200 107376653,107391968,2017-01-16 13:45:15,">>107386814 ITS MAGNIFICENT.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484574315 107376653,107392006,2017-01-16 13:45:30,">>107391731 I don't think their will be civil war or revolution unless they economy really gets fucked up. Too many vices and comforts these days.",,Anonymous,1470047699184.webm,qr4btNEt4fI+HRFFJ1q2hg==,CA,,1484574330 107376653,107392219,2017-01-16 13:47:07,">>107391644 Monarchy, hierarchy, imperium, aristocracy, tradition, patriarchy. The ""right"" in America is nothing more than stingy liberal capitalists that don't like paying taxes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484574427 107376653,107393051,2017-01-16 13:53:48,">>107391478 And how do you maintain the nuclear family with an individualist mindset? We have already seen how women's liberation has destroyed the nuclear family. The best way to maintain the nuclear family is through arranged marriages, not allowing divorce, and incentives/subsidization of procreation. The degradation of the Church is due in part to the undermining of monarchy and the allowance of many different sects of Christianity to exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484574828 107376653,107393253,2017-01-16 13:55:22,">>107389746 Hey guys I'm currently in pic related, but I'm in a moment of change in my believes, so if you you give me good arguments I might move more to the right. My main problem is with taxes, government shouldn't have the right to take them away from me, I 100% consider them theft. The only way it wouldn't be theft is if the government helped to give me the product of service I'm buying. But, it is still necessary in some ways I guess. Of course not to give welfare, public education or public healthcare, I should not be forced to pay for someone else healthcare, they are not my responsibility. Only people that want services from the government should pay for those services. Although the government, I think, needs money for things like muh roads, security and other kind of things that couldn't be done with only private ownership. So my question is, is there a moral way way to the government to take money from the people in order to create services that only they can provide? I'm think tariffs from foreign companies that want to sell their stuff here. Or it wouldn't be enough so you have to tax people, if you have to, how much is too much? Or is there another alternative? Roads and military can be privately owned? If that's the case, give me some examples in which it has worked.",,Anonymous,file.png,CM7jAV5tZ5Jjx6VPron4Rg==,MX,,1484574922 107376653,107393275,2017-01-16 13:55:35,">>107390153 >Needing a state to affirm your own concepts of community and virtue >You really are a complete untermensch >In a libertarian society, people dictate community norms through ostracization, and refusal to do trade. >No government can force you to employ a tranny, or to have niggers as tenants. >No government can foster the growth of NEETS, drig addicts, and deviants through welfare. >People have to become intradependent on themselves, the family unit, and the community instead of dependent on the state. >People have to work to live >Degenerates are forced to the outskirts of town to congregate in their own filth until their demise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484574935 107376653,107393891,2017-01-16 14:00:54,">>107393051 Women's liberation is only possible with the presence of a state to support them. >In a libertarian society whores would be banished from the community, with no hope of getting engaging in the mutual exchange of property, charity, or socialization, unitl they all remove themselves from the gene pool. >Welfare, child support, alimony, and Affirmative Action are all government creations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484575254 107376653,107394033,2017-01-16 14:02:04,">>107393253 Look up Geolibertariansim and mutualism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484575324 107376653,107394273,2017-01-16 14:03:56,">>107393275 Your error is the assumption that the existence of the state implicitly guarantees rights for degenerates and minorities, when really it is only when the emergence of liberal, individualistic, libertarian, and democratic values emerge within a state that these rights begin to appear. Philosophically speaking, the best defense against the positive rights of these groups is to affirm the positive rights of the ruling class.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484575436 107376653,107394631,2017-01-16 14:06:58,">>107393891 You have a rather utopian view of libertarian societies, which is unsurprising. What is more likely than a patriarchal libertarian society is the ""my gay boyfriend and I can use AR-15s to protect our pot plants"" meme. Just look at the people who attended the libertarian convention and see which type of people this ideology attracts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484575618 107376653,107394719,2017-01-16 14:07:40,Who builds the roads?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484575660 107376653,107394960,2017-01-16 14:09:30,">>107394273 It will. What type of government do you support? How do people become the ""ruling class?"" >Monarchy led to inbred degenerates wasting money on trivial luxury goods destroying their country and giving money to kikes. >Democracy will lead to the scenario I portrayed in my post >Even theocracy has faultered to horrible popes, just look at the one we have now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484575770 107376653,107395152,2017-01-16 14:11:00,">>107376858 >yfw he was banned from the Libertarian party for that stunt",,Anonymous,1281319704892.png,srqItAgPXhdvvVn/fd3RSw==,US,,1484575860 107376653,107395388,2017-01-16 14:12:52,">>107394631 I can post some neo-nazis smoking meth and ass fucking eachother if that is the road we are going down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484575972 107376653,107396662,2017-01-16 14:23:11,">>107394960 I am an Orthodox Monarchist. People become part of the ruling class naturally, as some people are superior to others. It is by elevating the superior person that the life of the inferior person is given meaning. Individualism denies hierarchy and in doing do makes life meaningless for everyone beyond materialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484576591 107376653,107398241,2017-01-16 14:35:11,">>107396662 How does individualism deny hierarchy? Hierarchy can and does develop voluntarily.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484577311 107376653,107399583,2017-01-16 14:45:23,"Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015 Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015 Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015 Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015 Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015 Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015 Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015 Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015 Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015 Join Operation Frantic and help take down Antifa. Protect the inauguration. >>107396015",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484577923 107497693,107497693,2017-01-17 06:24:38,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and Herpetology. Today i'd like to challenge those who justify the states authority to combat degeneracy; If one is truly a degenerate they are an evolutionary failure by their nature. This being the definition of degeneracy, degenerates can only exist in prosperity when supported by a state. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and the physical removal of communists",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - BACK TO WORK EDITION,Anonymous,Badge (3).png,epTM/5BAWqDtQ6hB5LK9pA==,US,,1484634278 107497693,107497845,2017-01-17 06:26:30,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1484634390 107497693,107497887,2017-01-17 06:26:58,">>107497693 (((Libertarian Right)))",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484634418 107497693,107498304,2017-01-17 06:32:05,">>107497887 >Oy vey, the goverment will protect you from the ZOG. Trust me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484634725 107497693,107499462,2017-01-17 06:45:43,Bump for liberty.,,Anonymous,ancap (1).png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1484635543 107497693,107500732,2017-01-17 06:59:28,">>107497693 Last Bump before work. Prove your value statists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484636368 107497693,107501095,2017-01-17 07:03:04,"Don't free markets just end up in transhumanism? Is that really the future you want?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484636584 107497693,107501356,2017-01-17 07:05:50,Bump,,ßß: redpilled trap,sunlight_by_kitymewmew-d7prr03.jpg,hULrPnC/5q3n9G49yxFvFw==,US,,1484636750 107497693,107501543,2017-01-17 07:08:09,">>107497693 bump for freedom and physicall removal also you pics are great op",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484636889 107497693,107503174,2017-01-17 07:26:28,">>107501095 That's the goal of people who value freedom, both in the negative and positive sense. They want to place all authority on themselves and essentially be bounded by nothing becoming Gods.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484637988 107497693,107503929,2017-01-17 07:35:58,">>107501543 Thanks, my op pics will become rare collectables one day. >>107503174 Ayyyy there's the man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484638558 107497693,107505485,2017-01-17 07:56:53,Pinochetian-Minarchism,,Anonymous,1484515905610m.jpg,kfjUu/SJdP3ZpEshLDXiRQ==,NO,,1484639813 107497693,107505573,2017-01-17 07:57:54,"Bump. >TFW the authoritarians realize they enable degeneracy, can't answer op question, and are eternally BTFO.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484639874 107497693,107506829,2017-01-17 08:14:13,,,Anonymous,ancap2.jpg,4DOpvsP/7i9rZ+DfUcpQzw==,DE,,1484640853 107497693,107507037,2017-01-17 08:16:31,Just post ancap memes. Its the only good thing that came out of liberalism,,Anonymous,,,RO,,1484640991 107497693,107507175,2017-01-17 08:18:16,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv9hn4IGofM,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484641096 107497693,107507431,2017-01-17 08:21:34,>>107497693,,Anonymous,lolbert.jpg,DhCBnk+fiwAwWUYMNsyH2A==,DE,,1484641294 107497693,107508126,2017-01-17 08:29:18,">>107497693 >>107505573 oh I didn't notice the question at first. >If one is truly a degenerate they are an evolutionary failure by their nature. This being the definition of degeneracy, degenerates can only exist in prosperity when supported by a state. Pure capitalism is a cruel and inhuman ideology. Not everyone who can not fend for himself for a while is useless. That is why humans built communitys in the first place. It is also irrealistic, as how would you go about implementing it? Who is gonna fight your wars?",,Anonymous,1483647219645.jpg,M5qiD7JSyfuBb7lqXjBy3A==,DE,,1484641758 107497693,107508239,2017-01-17 08:30:42,">>107500732 I'm not a statist, I just hate your guts. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rh9zii64eVMtfF5cwEKpx1QAKk9ZP4lDkGl4OSzXiSI/",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1484641842 107497693,107508903,2017-01-17 08:38:37,">>107508126 You haven't justified the state, you've justified community, which is not hindered in a libertarian society. Also I will fight my own aggressors myself with my community and those allied and in support of me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484642317 107497693,107509527,2017-01-17 08:46:00,">>107497693 spooky",,Anonymous,NAP.jpg,M9U2tiViF7gd7agx2wpmtA==,SE,,1484642760 107497693,107509584,2017-01-17 08:46:36,">>107508903 >Also I will fight my own aggressors myself with my community and those allied and in support of me. How would you fight a war with for example Russia with such a disorganized group? A state is what keeps large communities together. It is needed to protect the community from foreign invasion, crime, exploitation and foreign subversion. You are just dissapoint, because barely any of this is happening these days. What we need is a strong government which protects our values.",,Anonymous,1483647188547.jpg,9el7rSd7QvTldLYETXjIEg==,DE,,1484642796 107497693,107509870,2017-01-17 08:49:59,">>107508126 War is state sanctioned mass murder and how are they fought? With your money taken at gunpoint (or threat of gunpoint)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484642999 107497693,107510922,2017-01-17 09:03:02,">>107509870 ah ok. Well that will be a short reign then. You would be assimilated by Russia in the first 2 weeks. Better learn Russian right away, to prepare yourself.",,Anonymous,𝔇𝔢𝔯 𝔉𝔲̈𝔥𝔯𝔢𝔯.jpg,jbp0MLwFZGkjpxW6/quBng==,DE,,1484643782 107497693,107511007,2017-01-17 09:04:04,"A few questions for the autistic lolbertarians: (1) Do you think your morality is workable in peoples without an Anglo-Saxon heritage, eg. black Americans? (2) Do you think meritocratic systems create outcomes indistinguishable from structural racism (unequal outcomes between the races)? (3) Do you believe race is a causal factor in human behavior, both as individuals and--more importantly--groups? (4) Do you believe in Hoppe's concept of the necessity of physical removal, radical exclusion, and freedom of association? (5) If a sovereign is conceived of owning the lands of the nation, does this make dictatorship/monarchy acceptable? (6) Is smoking weed more important than persecuting aggressive inner city youfs? Thanks, and please kill yourselves soon.",,Anonymous,download.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1484643844 107497693,107512525,2017-01-17 09:23:04,>>107497693,,Anonymous,1457485847848.jpg,5+8NW2nLf9t0d3ItEWLUpQ==,BR,,1484644984 107497693,107512580,2017-01-17 09:23:47,">>107511007 I see culture as the definer of morality. I do believe humans are tribalists and that genetic groups tend to stick together and form their own cultures with their own moral code. I don't however believe that racial tribalism is absolute over cultural tribalism. In theory anyone of any race can be part of a ""more moral"" culture than the majority of their racial groups culture.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484645027 107497693,107513616,2017-01-17 09:34:25,How do I reconcile my Hoppean beliefs with my thoughts that businesses are capable of doing wrong? By what mechanic do Hoppean libertarians keep businesses from becoming profitable Mafias at worst and passively negligent at best?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484645665 107497693,107513951,2017-01-17 09:37:54,">>107513616 Would you pay a evil business for their service? If you live in a moral community of your choice you wouldn't have to fund/tolerate such an organization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484645874 107497693,107514152,2017-01-17 09:39:46,"In a libertarian society, surplus wealth is the source of all capital, and capital is owned by those people who happened to have surplus wealth and invest it. The capital thus created is then rented out to the working class for what amounts to a fee- in order to gain access to the means of production, workers must permit the capitalist to take a large amount of their labour's productivity as a surplus, or profit. The taking of this profit enriches the capitalist. Over time the capitalist class grows ever richer, and ever more possessing of surpluses. If the working class grows richer at all, this is dwarfed by the growth in wealth of the capitalist class. Soon the capitalist class become non-working parasites, sustained entirely by the stolen labour of the working poor. Then, more than ever, it becomes obvious that the possession of surplus wealth to be invested does not show a moral right to a profit, but only that someone has been born into the right circumstances to have surplus wealth.",,Anonymous,443322.jpg,+LilAmZ0lcMXFFk8+4A+VA==,GB,,1484645986 107497693,107514422,2017-01-17 09:42:52,">>107513951 There are mechanics through which a company could create a monopoly though. I want small states and successful businesses, I just think there's a point where a business becomes successful enough and far-reaching enough that it can become indistinguishable in many ways from the states we wanted small in the first place. I don't want to vilify success but I also require some means of establishing trust. This is my only hangup on fully supporting Hoppean ideology",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484646172 107497693,107514515,2017-01-17 09:43:47,">>107514152 >Means of production",,Anonymous,snek (5).png,MJvu4y5+xVqAoM6WQhHWFw==,US,,1484646227 107497693,107514925,2017-01-17 09:48:36,">>107514152 >If the working class grows richer at all, this is dwarfed by the growth in wealth of the capitalist class Even if wages don't increase, the working class becomes richer because there is a constant downward pressure on prices due to competition, which allows their dollars to stretch farther. There is no big daddy gubmint to allow the creation of huge market barriers in the form of regulation to prevent competition. Also, the ""capitalist"" business owner carries all of the risk. In a Libertarian society, if you want to put all of your assets at risk to become the ""greedy"" capitalist yourself, then you're free to do so.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484646516 107497693,107514999,2017-01-17 09:49:23,">>107511007 I just give a shit about myself.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484646563 107497693,107515257,2017-01-17 09:52:16,">>107514515 >ancaps doing anything outside of wanking to anime in their basements top lel",,Anonymous,1483458305783.jpg,EFziNdArUKJ/y14Fwo7xCg==,GB,,1484646736 107497693,107515302,2017-01-17 09:52:46,">>107514422 >There are mechanics through which a company could create a monopoly though. There are mechanics through which a monopoly that is doing a disservice to its customers could be dismantled quickly and easily by oncoming competition as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484646766 107497693,107515362,2017-01-17 09:53:26,">>107497693 PHYSICALLY REMOVE Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXevL9fwteg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38K9X5PMLRU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjUWmRPpJyY",,Anonymous,1481417145837.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,GB,,1484646806 107497693,107515522,2017-01-17 09:54:52,Libertarianism opens the door to unfettered corporate greed and exploitation.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484646892 107497693,107515795,2017-01-17 09:57:35,Is there any libertarian superior to Hoppe?,,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,x4l20of0VuxPMhWOgG2ztQ==,ES,,1484647055 107497693,107515948,2017-01-17 09:59:15,">>107515302 Do you know of any literature specifically on this topic? I'm not an economist so I have to approach this idea with appropriate skepticism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484647155 107497693,107515963,2017-01-17 09:59:22,">>107514925 Except nobody is going to gamble with money they need to live on. The capitalist is able to gamble not because he is braver or cares more about growing the economy, but because he has more money in the first place, and can afford to risk it out of desire for more money. Incidentally, certain diverse stock portfolios have essentially risk free returns",,Anonymous,443323.jpg,XR9P8LXR+0RaegiOdSqWJQ==,GB,,1484647162 107497693,107516121,2017-01-17 10:01:00,"Why are libertards so obsessed with kike shills? >""Oy vey goy trust me, capitalism is your friend""",,Anonymous,download (1).jpg,YxAW3gqxQ3pi2cqIJCytzg==,NO,,1484647260 107497693,107517144,2017-01-17 10:11:06,,,Anonymous,last_laught_best_laught.jpg,JeSt6a7GZI+FNtPaJcCgIA==,ES,,1484647866 107497693,107518660,2017-01-17 10:26:24,">>107515963 in proper lightly regulated capitalism (not corporate mercantilism which we suffer under now) investing your capital is NOT GAMBLING investing meant buying shit and making it better (a farm) or making a product and selling it, now it's all moneyfingering, the buying and selling of worthless notes based on the imaginary value of 1/2000000th of a company that you have no control over and no real input in. example: what is the REAL value of a stock like google? it has no real assets, doesnt make anything tangible and the only thing they ""own"" is ""branding"" and ""intellectual property"" which can vanish like a fart in the wind if people decide something else is better just like ""pets dot com"" the typical tech stock with zero assets but massive market capitalization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484648784 107497693,107520337,2017-01-17 10:43:40,">>107518660 >example: what is the REAL value of a stock like google? it has no real assets, doesnt make anything tangible and the only thing they ""own"" is ""branding"" and ""intellectual property"" which can vanish like a fart in the wind if people decide something else is better My only point to make here is that Google also ""owns"" enfranchised employees, as someone who works in tech and has a good friend who works in Google, the workplace is encourages long hours and little social contact, all while paying extremely well for employees that have proven their merit. People who work at Google for more than two years or so are going to find it very difficult to make a case for leaving... especially since they traded their social life and 10+ hours of every day since they started away to the Google machine. It's like a cult.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484649820 107497693,107520727,2017-01-17 10:47:29,">>107516121 Because you statists are too stupid to understand economics. And we libertarians are smarter than you in every way.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484650049 107497693,107520774,2017-01-17 10:47:59,">>107520727 A",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484650079 107497693,107521125,2017-01-17 10:51:31,">>107520774 BASED",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484650291 107497693,107521168,2017-01-17 10:51:53,">>107520337 and what is the real value of these mindless eunuchs to the investor? how much of each one can the sell when he divests? are they sold as chattel, or as food? stocks are a ponzi scheme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484650313 107497693,107521602,2017-01-17 10:55:55,">>107521168 If you don't think these engineers are assets, I don't think we have anything to discuss, and you are a fool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484650555 107497693,107522098,2017-01-17 11:00:28,"You guys are based as fuck. REMEMBER that Switzerland is the closest example of a free market we have. It completely demolished leftist arguments. Remember deflation is GOOD for the economy. Switzerland's central bank inflates their currency but it's so slow. The currency deflates anyway sometimes. Every other currency on earth loses value more than them so that means Switzerland is rich. If they got rid of their central bank and allowed for natural healthy deflation, they would be the richest country in the world and everyone would have to produce resources for THEM abolish central banks nigga",,Anonymous,ch-.gif,nrBNl5P4P0Qjq7ULPojDyQ==,CA,,1484650828 107497693,107522155,2017-01-17 11:01:02,">>107511007 1. >Do you think your morality is workable in peoples without an Anglo-Saxon heritage, eg. black Americans? If you raise a black kid in a white neighborhood he won't turn out like the rest. Fact is that people would have to start providing some use and couldn't rely on welfare checks to keep gangbangin'. It wouldn't be fixed over a night, but eventually I would assume the blacks could get to where they were in the 50s. 2. >Do you think meritocratic systems create outcomes indistinguishable from structural racism (unequal outcomes between the races)? The thing is that races have different merits for different things, chinks would probably work themselves to the top of the foodchain, but a system that is based on merit is morally correct. 3. >Do you believe race is a causal factor in human behavior, both as individuals and--more importantly--groups? It depends on the IQ and how you've been raised, there's exceptions, but often there's patterns rather so in the culture of the race than the race itself. Some races are more prone to aggression with above average testosterone. 4. >Do you believe in Hoppe's concept of the necessity of physical removal, radical exclusion, and freedom of association? I don't know yet. 5 >If a sovereign is conceived of owning the lands of the nation, does this make dictatorship/monarchy acceptable? Every situation is unique, and this one is seemingly very much so. I doubt this is even something that could occur because it's very rarely sovereigns actually provide a free market use of so much worth they could sustain the living cost of a nation. 6. >Is smoking weed more important than persecuting aggressive inner city youfs? It's less about smoking weed than it is the concept of doing it if I want to. To own how many guns I want to, or to have as many children I can without being set back by a state. The inner city youth would be busy doing actual work, seeing how criminality isn't sustained in a free market.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484650862 107497693,107522273,2017-01-17 11:02:18,">>107508126 >Switzerland is a cruel ideology Lol kill yourself Your losers would have the same wealth Switzerland has if you didn't join the euro and the eu",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484650938 107497693,107522432,2017-01-17 11:03:50,">>107509527 >stirner Marxism is a spook. Stirner would have probably supported ancap over any leftist bullshit if that choice had to be made. He hatred marx and marx hatred him.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484651030 107497693,107522466,2017-01-17 11:04:14,">>107521602 are those engineers assets of the company? can they be sold off to pay debts and obligations? what s their market value? are they fungible or do they have to be auctioned off individually? cock-knockers gulping down the ""human resources"" drivel about ""teambuilding"" are simply clownshoes. if those ""engineers"" get a better offer they wil leave jewgle in a minute for the new hotness of superjewgle or a revitalized jewhoo, leaving jewgle with nothing but memories. a sack full of tech ""intellectual property"" is worth the sack.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484651054 107497693,107522482,2017-01-17 11:04:25,">>107508126 The proponents of the state can fight their own wars, also, if you and the shitload of other statists want to take care of the useless so much you can work and donate your own money to charity for them.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484651065 107497693,107522772,2017-01-17 11:07:08,">>107515522 Tell that to Switzerland you dumb cuck. >>107514152 The idea of surplus value has to be the stupidest most depressing idea ever. Man just snap out of it. Surplus value doesn't exist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484651228 107497693,107523149,2017-01-17 11:10:54,">>107522098 Your drivel is so entertaining leaf",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1484651454 107497693,107523223,2017-01-17 11:11:42,">>107522098 What are corporate regulations like in Switzerland?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484651502 107497693,107523496,2017-01-17 11:14:24,">>107523149 You clearly weren't in the swiss thread an hour ago. >>107523223 Limited corporate regulations. Switzerland it's the closest example to a free market we have, it's still not a total free market. I'm a moderate libertarian so I don't support a total free market. Swiss citizens have the HIGHEST local purchasing power in the entire world thanks to their based somewhat deflationary currency.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484651664 107497693,107523795,2017-01-17 11:17:23,">>107523496 Can you give me any leads on what sort of regulation the Swiss support and what they do not? I'm not opposed to doing my own research, I'm just looking for concepts to search for and what themes you've picked up on. I like my governments small and my businesses successful but like I stated earlier in the thread, I'd like a mechanism to establish trust between consumers and businesses, and I'm not convinced a free market has that inherently.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484651843 107497693,107523989,2017-01-17 11:19:15,">>107497693 Thanks for this thread. After /leftypol/ and commies are coming more and more on /pol/ it's refreshing to see a good Libertarian thread.",,Anonymous,1478483969114.png,+CdVUYoImw7FMTtCXwTaGw==,AT,,1484651955 107497693,107524066,2017-01-17 11:20:03,">>107523795 Oh damn I read your question totally wrong and I thought you were insulting me, sorry. I heard they have a really relaxed business environment there when it comes to regulations, you'd have to do googling yourself.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484652003 107497693,107524182,2017-01-17 11:21:17,">>107523989 Their coming less and less because they literally got BTFO with arguments every single fucking time. It's the same spanish and Swedish guy that posts the thread.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484652077 107497693,107524206,2017-01-17 11:21:26,">>107522098 wtf i love switzerland now",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1484652086 107497693,107524760,2017-01-17 11:27:35,">>107523496 > deflationary there are lots of different usages for ""deflation"" you have to specify. Price Deflation: prices going down due to increasing market supply or a constricting money pool Currency Deflation: the loss of actual value in a currency due to expanding money supply (eg: zimbabwe, or obamabucks) which is often called ""inflation"" by economics weenies who delight in using arcane language and bizarre shibboleths to confound the uninitiated Wage Deflation: the reduction of actual wages usually a result of an expanding labour pool (mexicans) outsourcing (chinks and poo in loos) or grasping greed government regulation of wages through taxation (obama and other leftist cunts)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484652455 107497693,107524802,2017-01-17 11:28:00,">>107524182 Nice.",,Anonymous,1479024192326.jpg,dfkg9nNkvYEU2jNxF4BA9Q==,AT,,1484652480 107497693,107524840,2017-01-17 11:28:23,">>107522772 How is it hard to understand? Materials plus labour power = finished goods Materials are bought at market prices, finished goods are sold at market prices. Profit can only be achieved by paying the worker less than what his labour power is worth",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484652503 107497693,107525393,2017-01-17 11:34:22,">>107524802 Then why when you pay workers ""what their labor is worth"" workers would end up with the exact same purchasing power as before? It would simply cause prices to rise if workers got to keep all of the profits, no new consumer goods have been created. Getting ""surplus value"" back is fucking retarded because it didn't even exist in the first place. Also did you know that the workers consume like 99% of all of the consumer goods in the economy? They already have the full product of their labor. Where the fuck do you expect these extra resources to come from? Magic?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484652862 107497693,107525467,2017-01-17 11:35:15,">>107524760 Price deflation That's all I meant.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484652915 107497693,107525857,2017-01-17 11:39:26,">>107525393 >It would simply cause prices to rise if workers got to keep all of the profits, no new consumer goods have been created Wtf are you on about? Even in a money economy there is no way it would cause price inflation. There's no expansion of the money supply from stopping Porky getting the money >They already have the full product of their labor. Then how are capitalists making money from their labour based on owning capital?",,Anonymous,0.1.png,3UasEiivW1QQk9rI3DkHTw==,GB,,1484653166 107497693,107526385,2017-01-17 11:44:48,">>107524840 WRONG in capitalism, labour is also bought and sold at market prices. if the worker feels he is underpaid he can freely find other more lucrative opportunities whatever wage you agree to is EXACTLY what your labour is worth. MARXISM and the feudalism it so closely resembles allow the powerful to set the value of labour. capitalism places the responsibility for valuation of goods and services on the seller if you think your basket of apples, pile of buffalo hides, or 8 hours of sweat is worth more, you can find another buyer, or failing that, keep it for yourself. in capitalism, the seller's goods and services BELONG TO HIM until somebody makes an offer he finds equitable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484653488 107497693,107526582,2017-01-17 11:46:43,">>107522273 >Switzerland is libertarian",,Anonymous,Blank_40d60d_5807026.jpg,sIE8fLd0mC8E2y7ZIRCTiQ==,GB,,1484653603 107497693,107526753,2017-01-17 11:48:25,">>107526385 >in capitalism, labour is also bought and sold at market prices >labor has value >a dozen posts ago was arguing that engineers add no value to a company If you can't even keep your own narrative straight, maybe posting here isn't in your best interest",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484653705 107497693,107526856,2017-01-17 11:49:25,,,Anonymous,3HJvY9N.png,XfgQu1/s1PfXhkNlX25N4Q==,GB,,1484653765 107497693,107526943,2017-01-17 11:50:23,">>107525857 >Wtf are you on about? How bad is your reading comprehension? Read what I wrote again. >Even in a money economy there is no way it would cause price inflation. Lol holy fucking shit. Of course it would. The supply of consumer goods has not changed. The supply of money and the demand for resources has now skyrocketed. Virtually all benefits to ""getting your surplus value back"" are gone. They never existed. >There's no expansion of the money supply from stopping Porky getting the money They're doesn't have to be dummy. The rich had been previously saving their wealth thus dramatically keeping down prices. If all of this money starts to get spent, prices of consumer goods are going to go through the roof because the supply of consumer goods goes down to almost nothing. It's like you think consumer goods can be created out of thin air. God damn son. The working class was already fucking consuming what they produce. Why the fuck don't you understand? >Then how are capitalists making money from their labour based on owning capital? Ever stopped to think that maybe your theory is unbelievably wrong?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484653823 107497693,107527025,2017-01-17 11:51:13,,,Anonymous,Capture.jpg,w9oqGf/6FZAstSxfpHdUjQ==,GB,,1484653873 107497693,107527046,2017-01-17 11:51:30,">>107525857 > marxists failing to understand economics what a surprise... i will make it simple for you comrade. lets say you live in a stone age village, and you discover that if you form the sticky mud in your fields into a shape then cook it in an oven, you get awesome new stuff you dcide to call ""Pottery"" you make some pots for your wife and other men's wives think it's badass so they want you to make some too. IF you decide to make pots for other men's wives, you cant till your field, thus you must get your barley and wheat from others, so you offer to make pots, provied the recipient gives you grain. wow, you just invented Trade good job. if you Trade your pots for EXACTLY the amount of food you could have grown if you had farmed your feild, you have really gained nothing for your ingenuity, and thus are a fool. if you get MORE grain than you could have grown yourself, you just invented Profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484653890 107497693,107527112,2017-01-17 11:52:20,">>107526582 Switzerland is one of the most free market nations on earth. They also have the HIGHEST local purchasing power on earth. Hmmmm really makes u think",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484653940 107497693,107527145,2017-01-17 11:52:35,">>107526582 more libertarian that any country right now",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484653955 107497693,107527422,2017-01-17 11:55:20,">>107526753 ohh you simpleton. employees are NOT ""assets"" now that chattel slavery and serfdom are outlawed. the product of their work is the asset employees LABOUR has value, but the employee is NOT AN ASSET try to be less retarded",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484654120 107497693,107527425,2017-01-17 11:55:22,">>107527025 >when leftypol gets trolled for having no creativity and poorly ripping off /pol/ memes AND gets their terrible economic theories destroyed in the same thread Rly mks u tnk",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484654122 107497693,107527560,2017-01-17 11:56:45,">>107507431 Stop trying to ""fix"" shit with the state, you only cause unintended consequences",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484654205 107497693,107527731,2017-01-17 11:58:33,">>107527025 >/leftypol/ recycling /pol/ memes now I understand why you are againts property it's because you have no creativity (ib4 spooks)it's a /lit/ meme",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484654313 107497693,107528818,2017-01-17 12:09:31,">>107527422 I think your premise is flawed, at least in the tech industry. Due to the different technologies present, and the need for specialists in those technologies, and how those technologies are a property of the products produced by the tech companies employing them, they ARE essentially serfs. For example: I am a massive, globalist company named Jewgle. I have a lot of money to soften economic blows with, and this gives me the freedom to innovate. I innovate a technology called Jew, a coding language that manages memory efficiently and easily but requires hardware with specific properties and implementations that are specific to the language. Next, I hire the best of the field's developers and services engineers. I pay them well and indoctrinate them into my cult-like work-sleep-work again culture. They learn Jew and build Jew web services and Jew software platforms. At the same time, I use my immense buying power to invest in hardware companies to incentivize them to build Jew-enabled hardware. Now, given an amount of time promoting these products and instilling them for everyday use, I have Jew-driven software as a market mainstay. I also employ the only engineers who know Jew, and I'm the only Jew-certified training shop. These engineers have few to no skills outside of Jew development, which means they're wageslaves to my company only. When I sell the intellectual property of Jew as a programming language, I'm not so much selling Jew development, I'm selling 1. The fact that Jew-enabled hardware is already incentivized and made a market staple (1/2 cont)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484654971 107497693,107528849,2017-01-17 12:09:49,">>107528818 2. A host of Jew developers and their wageslaveness, no need to hire and train new developers and they are highly incentivized not to leave 3. All the marketing associated with the Jew brand, no need to convince the market that Jew is necessary, it's already not only considered necessary but considered an obvious inclusion 4. Finally and least importantly, a means to create Jew software Those employees are tied to the company through that specific technology and can't make a professional change in their life without losing almost all of their value as a developer. If this doesn't sound like employees as assets, I don't understand how you define an asset.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484654989 107497693,107529617,2017-01-17 12:16:59,">>107497693 It has been rightly remarked that ""There is not one freedom, but many freedoms. There is no general, abstract freedom, but there are articulated freedoms conformed to one's own nature. Man must not generate within himself the idea of a homogeneous liberty, but rather that of the whole of such differentiated and qualified liberties."" The other freedom, which is upheld by libertarianism and by natural law, is a fiction just like the idea of ""equality"". Practically speaking, it is only a revolutionary weapon: freedom and equality are the catchwords certain social strata or groups employed in order to undermine other classes and to gain preeminence; having achieved this task, they were quickly set aside.",,Anonymous,a03.jpg,E3dluyFeT0F8zDxxaiPjng==,US,,1484655419 107497693,107530302,2017-01-17 12:24:09,">>107529617 >absolutely decadent >from the guy who took LSD",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484655849 107497693,107530322,2017-01-17 12:24:21,">>107505485 Libertarian Fascism in the house!",,Anonymous,request__libertarian_fascism_by_americansfr-d8actxl.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,US,,1484655861 107497693,107530664,2017-01-17 12:27:44,">>107530322 how it works ? isn't fascism just all powerful state but with nationalism in it? or I am missing something",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484656064 107497693,107531462,2017-01-17 12:35:23,">>107530664 You heard of pinochet right? http://therightstuff.biz/2013/01/23/fascist-libertarianism-for-a-better-world/",,Anonymous,1484451382037.jpg,EPMlbs4gRDc0VxePzXEV3w==,US,,1484656523 107497693,107531552,2017-01-17 12:36:06,">>107528818 >>107528849 two limit busting posts of pure bullshit. when jewgle's software is eclipsed by another firm's new hotness, jewgle will disappear without a trace, leaving it's investors holding shares worth literally NOTHING because jewgle has no real assets with which to pay obligations except thier ""campus"" in cupertino and their ""brand"" when chrysler goes under it has land (admittedly in detroit, so mostly worthless) and machinery which still retains real value even when the ""brand"" is shitting all over itself that's the difference. their employee ""team"" is NOT AN ASSET, they are a liability thanks to their retarded top-heavy pension system and goofy union rules, so even though they have more of value than jewgle, pets dot com, jewhoo or aol (remember them?) their stock is till largely valueless but gets traded like it's made of solid gold stocks are fiat currency, nothing more when the issuer fails, they have no value unless you need to wipe your ass. that's my point. and claiming employees are somehow serf or chattel because they work for x company or y company is retarded. software engineers can learn a new code system easily, they are not ditch diggers or buggy whip braiders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484656566 107497693,107531559,2017-01-17 12:36:13,">>107527025 >TFW commies couldn't subvert /pol/ >TFW my threads got much support in the first thread four days ago.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484656573 107497693,107531854,2017-01-17 12:38:45,">>107527025 >No creativity so teal from people. >""But its not stealing."" ""Muh seize production!"" >go into autistic fit and try to troll libertarians and fascist because you have no arguement. All this just makes sense to me.",,Anonymous,sjwfaggot.png,wdDRsJMUXAP6kQHBVDXJkw==,US,,1484656725 107497693,107532259,2017-01-17 12:42:34,">>107531462 so basically be like Hoppe ? I'm okay with this",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484656954 107497693,107532690,2017-01-17 12:46:51,">>107515257 Kurds are shit at fighting",,Anonymous,2531A8A400000578-0-image-a-38_1422633368907.jpg,7Rj0GP6QRJZFM16lm9Ie8g==,NO,,1484657211 107497693,107533619,2017-01-17 12:55:03,">>107511007 >(1) Do you think your morality is workable in peoples without an Anglo-Saxon heritage, eg. black Americans? What does this even mean? Morally repugnant people will be removed/shunned no matter the race. Who gives a fuck if black people can adapt to no gibs. >(2) Do you think meritocratic systems create outcomes indistinguishable from structural racism (unequal outcomes between the races)? No but it may seem that way to shitlibs/democrats/commies >(3) Do you believe race is a causal factor in human behavior, both as individuals and--more importantly--groups? Individual no, groups hell yes >(4) Do you believe in Hoppe's concept of the necessity of physical removal, radical exclusion, and freedom of association? 100% yes >(6) Is smoking weed more important than persecuting aggressive inner city youfs? False dichotomy",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484657703 107497693,107533955,2017-01-17 12:58:10,">>107516121 >SHIT I HAVE NO ARGUMENT BETTER CALL THEM KIKES kys you commie cunt",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484657890 107497693,107534109,2017-01-17 12:59:32,">>107521125 LEAF",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484657972 107497693,107534629,2017-01-17 13:04:15,">>107533955 it's not like communism is the kikiest ideology",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484658255 107497693,107536109,2017-01-17 13:17:55,">>107531462 >so, how do we achieve the Right-Lib Paradise™? >I know, let's instate an authoritarian regime >it will eliminate the obstacles to liberty >and then the all-powerful state will wither away because that has always happened, hasn't it oh wait",,Anonymous,andrew_jackson.jpg,iziDW+tiy3F3LwC3oJbhMQ==,RU,,1484659075 107497693,107536345,2017-01-17 13:20:10,">>107536109 balkanisation and confederation are the best ways",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484659210 107497693,107536895,2017-01-17 13:25:23,">>107536345 I mean, Hoppe advocated for ostracizing the anti-libertarians: physical removal, as it were, is left up to the libertarians themselves, not the state. Again, balkanization and confederacy are good, but a fascist authoritarian state isn't exactly favouring a nation's dissolution or decentralisation of power.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1484659523 107497693,107537000,2017-01-17 13:26:28,">>107497693 >Ideology in 2017",,Anonymous,1478459141387.jpg,KpPjyQbm06IbQs7CGxH6oA==,CA,,1484659588 107497693,107537771,2017-01-17 13:33:27,">>107497693 The state shouldn't combat degeneracy. Then you have a whole bunch of bureacrats looking at your family life. Inferior social structures (whether a series of gay trysts, polygamy, or whatever else you hate) should eventually be shunned by the rest of the population not by state force, by a demonstration of their fucktardedness in practice. This is why Jeff Sessions is the worst thing about the Trump administration so far",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484660007 107497693,107537802,2017-01-17 13:33:45,">>107537000 Welcome to /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484660025 107497693,107539928,2017-01-17 13:52:55,">>107537771 Morality and how to live is the domain of the church.",,Anonymous,1474938974476.jpg,mRQT1algCiK0xm5YBB/iAA==,CA,,1484661175 107497693,107541764,2017-01-17 14:08:54,Bump,,Anonymous,1484252578220.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,CA,,1484662134 107497693,107542177,2017-01-17 14:12:33,">>107541764 Op here from another IP I'm thinking tomorrow's thread will be ""TFW when full natsoc and Canada is more redpilled than me edition,""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484662353 107497693,107542504,2017-01-17 14:15:33,">>107497887 ((Autistic trump))",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1484662533 107640268,107640268,2017-01-18 05:58:36,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and Leaf-economics. >TAXATION IS JEWERY >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Maple Syrup",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - TFW IM FULL NATSOC BUT CANADA IS MORE REDPILLED THAN ME EDITION,Anonymous,Badge (9).png,XwHJTH8JxsoKxEhd+KcktQ==,US,,1484719116 107640268,107640358,2017-01-18 05:59:44,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1484719184 107640268,107640363,2017-01-18 05:59:49,">>107640268 Fuck ""freedom"" and ""liberty"". The only acceptable form of ideology is fascism!",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484719189 107640268,107640611,2017-01-18 06:02:53,">>107640363 Why not be your own fascist leader in your own property instead of licking boots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484719373 107640268,107640787,2017-01-18 06:05:13,">>107640611 No-one likes your failed ideology except sheeple! Humans need strong leaders to not descend into degeneracy, therefore ""freedom"" and ""liberty"" must be destroyed.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484719513 107640268,107640920,2017-01-18 06:06:54,">>107640268 R",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1484719614 107640268,107640948,2017-01-18 06:07:20,">>107640268 O",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1484719640 107640268,107640971,2017-01-18 06:07:38,">>107640268 A",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1484719658 107640268,107640996,2017-01-18 06:07:55,">>107640268 D",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1484719675 107640268,107641018,2017-01-18 06:08:14,">>107640268 S",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1484719694 107640268,107641051,2017-01-18 06:08:31,">>107640787 So without a stong leader you would decend to sucking cocks and shooting dope? Yeah you do need a leader. I don't though so fuck off slave.",,Anonymous,dude.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,US,,1484719711 107640268,107641328,2017-01-18 06:11:48,">>107641051 Race traitors will be the first on the gallows",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484719908 107640268,107641407,2017-01-18 06:12:56,">>107641328 smart comeback.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484719976 107640268,107641634,2017-01-18 06:15:40,">>107641407 thank you :^)",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484720140 107640268,107641678,2017-01-18 06:16:17,">>107640920 >>107640948 >>107640971 >>107640996 >>107641018",,Anonymous,790.jpg,P7c/f/hQlePzGB3Hxt2jGw==,US,,1484720177 107640268,107641938,2017-01-18 06:19:34,"If there is no such thing as ""free"" then how can Lolbertarianism be free?",,Anonymous,thinking_man.jpg,oxmzu/MAK+Ue5ZBWMAGcoA==,BR,,1484720374 107640268,107642176,2017-01-18 06:22:51,">>107641938 things can be free. someone just has to volintarily give somthing away for free.",,Anonymous,1482127806953.png,YTG2ydT+Ub3Brl3TPkxAcQ==,US,,1484720571 107640268,107642345,2017-01-18 06:25:00,">>107640363 you've just won a ticked to be phisically removed from an helicopter enjoy the ground at high speeds",,Anonymous,15095607_1171977616203889_5495997091088463397_n.png,vScIe6nXOfbjt6T7iwfiGA==,ES,,1484720700 107640268,107642677,2017-01-18 06:29:32,">>107642345 >gommunism >fascism Spic education",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484720972 107640268,107642736,2017-01-18 06:30:30,">>107640268 Hey bros",,Anonymous,image.jpg,y0bOmAPH+8Fol+37qhCifA==,FR,,1484721030 107640268,107642862,2017-01-18 06:32:40,">>107642677 Fascism is just a nationalist welfare state",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484721160 107640268,107642889,2017-01-18 06:33:05,">>107642736 Thanks for dropping a (you) Francebro",,Anonymous,an_cap.jpg,+JnAHjdxQjg1t8UbRG3Ggg==,US,,1484721185 107640268,107642931,2017-01-18 06:33:45,">>107642862 Nope, you work or you die :^)",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484721225 107640268,107642963,2017-01-18 06:34:16,">>107642677 If you act like a commie, you're not a person no matter what are your intentions or ideas if your actions are of a beast, you're be treated like a beast",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484721256 107640268,107643063,2017-01-18 06:35:43,">>107642963 There is still free market in fascism, but you have to help the society. Capitalism is neighbour against neighbour, friend against friend, it is inherently a Jewish ideology that must go away.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484721343 107640268,107643107,2017-01-18 06:36:18,">>107642931 Sure faggot that's why hitler policies about single mothers would be feminists wet dream",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484721378 107640268,107643164,2017-01-18 06:37:14,">>107643063 >market competition is bad Yup,you are a commie",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484721434 107640268,107643188,2017-01-18 06:37:32,">>107643107 t. buttmad kike who doesn't understand breeding programs",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484721452 107640268,107643222,2017-01-18 06:37:51,">>107643164 >>107643107 You should kill yourself you kike, you disgust me.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484721471 107640268,107643317,2017-01-18 06:39:14,">>107643063 >we like free market >capitalism is jewish pick one or you're the jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484721554 107640268,107643335,2017-01-18 06:39:25,">>107643222 >can't make a proper argument >call me a kike You statists bootlickers are like children",,Anonymous,image.jpg,+rPElK/JDWVntm9k7+Wvcw==,FR,,1484721565 107640268,107643386,2017-01-18 06:40:14,">>107643317 t. kike",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484721614 107640268,107643397,2017-01-18 06:40:24,">>107643063 if you excuse your theft because of ""muh charity reason"" ""muh society"" ""muh family values"" in REALITY you're still a theft and a HUGE FAGGOT and you'll be phisically removed and throwed off an helicopter",,Anonymous,disgusting.jpg,ejcn5mjsNNYSIIWVICzuDQ==,ES,,1484721624 107640268,107643509,2017-01-18 06:41:54,">>107643222 fuck off and die you racemixed monkey giving the third world internet access was a mistake",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484721714 107640268,107643541,2017-01-18 06:42:19,">>107643397 >>107643335 >>107643317 >>107643509 All kikes.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484721739 107640268,107643564,2017-01-18 06:42:35,">>107643386 T.brazilian faggot with cognitive dissonence",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484721755 107640268,107643577,2017-01-18 06:42:44,">>107640787 This. Freedom also gives bad people freedom who do heinous shit. Humans can't be trusted with freedom we need to be kept to a high standard of morality or else",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484721764 107640268,107643719,2017-01-18 06:44:33,">>107643577 see >>107641051 some people aren't as weak minded as you. I can do the right thing without someone forcing me to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484721873 107640268,107643735,2017-01-18 06:44:45,">>107643577 >m we need to be kept to a high standard of morality who decides what is moral? dangerous road. >roads >reeeeeeeeeeeeee",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484721885 107640268,107643753,2017-01-18 06:45:01,">>107643541 >ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS WRONG AND JEWISH AND THEY NEED TO DIE maybe if you had a working brain instead of mushed bananas you could form a coherent argument. stupid chimp",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484721901 107640268,107643762,2017-01-18 06:45:12,">>107643577 Bad people who have freedom will do stupid shit and die in a gutter because they would be fired of their job Why do you need laws to ensure that ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484721912 107640268,107643869,2017-01-18 06:46:41,">>107643541 you're the actual jew, you fucking inbreed of savages, slaves and fucking portuguese",,Anonymous,15027784_1165788000156184_5499425861239303949_n.jpg,LHMPszAi3jMC5DHpxhJwfw==,ES,,1484722001 107640268,107643937,2017-01-18 06:47:48,This is a slide thread.,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484722068 107640268,107644047,2017-01-18 06:49:18,">>107643937 >trying this hard to fit in kek, as if anyone gives a shit about what a brazillian thinks but for all intents and purposes keep dancing your jig you fucking circus monkey",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484722158 107640268,107644104,2017-01-18 06:50:05,">>107643577 PHISICALY REMOVE NAP AGRESSORS even BEFORE they violate the nap, uncivilized chimps are parroting it for fuck shake, throw them off",,Anonymous,15541227_1205117309556586_5006046022227893585_n.png,TAv1OvTDRcRsOfqXvOoRag==,ES,,1484722205 107640268,107644126,2017-01-18 06:50:23,">>107644047 kike",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484722223 107640268,107644155,2017-01-18 06:50:48,">>107643937 Take off your tinfoil hat,there are always been libertarians in /pol/,atleast since 2008",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484722248 107640268,107644206,2017-01-18 06:51:39,">>107644126 t.Monkey larping as pure white nationalist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484722299 107640268,107644296,2017-01-18 06:52:44,Facile Reddit ideologies have no place on this board. /pol/ has and always will be natsoc.,,Anonymous,image.jpg,cvXRuyQYi7u6dS3CnYA56Q==,US,,1484722364 107640268,107644372,2017-01-18 06:53:45,">>107644296 t.edgy reddit faggot who came here in 2013",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484722425 107640268,107644398,2017-01-18 06:54:06,">>107644296 we make up at least 30% of this board. we have always been here.",,Anonymous,1392271844975.png,I9N7/mBw7AuUAFqhBqzmfg==,US,,1484722446 107640268,107644487,2017-01-18 06:55:10,">>107644372 Yes I agree that's exactly who you guys are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484722510 107640268,107644507,2017-01-18 06:55:25,">anarchism >capitalism pick",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484722525 107640268,107644579,2017-01-18 06:56:24,">>107644487 >what is the 2008 election ? Stop pretending",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484722584 107640268,107644583,2017-01-18 06:56:29,">>107640363 >>107640787 >>107641328 >>107641634 >>107641938 >>107642677 >>107642931 >>107643063 >>107643188 >>107643222 >>107643386 >>107643541 >>107643937 >>107644126",,Anonymous,1475406375056.jpg,UzsfLHdZDWN9FKTFJo88/Q==,US,,1484722589 107640268,107644638,2017-01-18 06:57:13,">>107644487 >I know you are but what am I bleas stap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484722633 107640268,107644749,2017-01-18 06:58:36,,,Anonymous,image_12.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,US,,1484722716 107640268,107644828,2017-01-18 06:59:39,">>107644507 Capitalism is easier to survive without a state than socialism >I know you're memeing",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484722779 107640268,107644972,2017-01-18 07:01:50,">>107644749 >private ennemy Every time",,Anonymous,image.jpg,kl7YI30/eUYdPfhu/TlH2w==,FR,,1484722910 107640268,107644993,2017-01-18 07:02:06,">>107644296 implying ancaps are far from these values, unlike you, we're moral if you act like a kebab, you're gonna be treated as a kebab",,Anonymous,15167620_1172715622796755_6462331841028631440_o.png,keUDHL0h1CzRspmY1beMvQ==,ES,,1484722926 107640268,107645202,2017-01-18 07:04:46,">>107644828 >Why does capitalism rely on the State? Because, being based an an accumulation of capital (i.e., wealth) into the hands of a few people at the expense of the rest, it requires the accumulation of power into the hands of a few people operating through a system of institutions of domination in order to protect the accumulation of wealth. This system of institutions of domination is what constitutes the state, and without it, the accumulation of capital necessary to capitalism would be implausible, if not impossible, simply because people wouldn't be that likely to put up with it. :(",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484723086 107640268,107645420,2017-01-18 07:07:21,">>107645202 Why would you need a state to do that?",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ENusApfp19QFbvipzrRpGg==,FR,,1484723241 107640268,107645598,2017-01-18 07:09:32,">>107645202 he thinks profits comes at the expense of the rest",,Anonymous,Then+we+throw+comies+out+of+helicopters+_fcd0a82a129c23cf089723918244f4dd.jpg,3unqiH+PysAnn9ZlNfeH8A==,ES,,1484723372 107640268,107645812,2017-01-18 07:12:31,">>107642931 >>107643188 > you work or you die :^) > breeding programs Congratulation, you won the debate against yourself. Welfare is cancer, even if you give it an edgy name, anon.",,Anonymous,,,TW,,1484723551 107640268,107645905,2017-01-18 07:13:46,"tfw minarchy outside what a ride",,Anonymous,15304301_1186965291371788_3912368800739376245_o.png,fkOiVW3aR6GavGK/h/NPUQ==,ES,,1484723626 107640268,107645924,2017-01-18 07:14:00,,,Anonymous,1482350184430.jpg,dQkU512xr39xxoyJWJiS7Q==,US,,1484723640 107640268,107646766,2017-01-18 07:24:37,Bump,,Anonymous,1478483969114.png,+CdVUYoImw7FMTtCXwTaGw==,US,,1484724277 107640268,107646902,2017-01-18 07:26:26,Reminder that semi deflationary Switzerland is the best example of free markets in the country.,,DEFLATION FUCK YEAH,,,CA,,1484724386 107640268,107646954,2017-01-18 07:26:56,">>107646766 Marxists deserve to suffocate",,DEFLATION FUCK YEAH,,,CA,,1484724416 107640268,107647007,2017-01-18 07:27:38,">>107646902 ALWAY REMINDER SWITZERLAND",,DEFLATION FUCK YEAH,ch-.gif,nrBNl5P4P0Qjq7ULPojDyQ==,CA,,1484724458 107640268,107647263,2017-01-18 07:30:52,">>107646954 How can a leaf be so based, this has shattered everything I know.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484724652 107640268,107647289,2017-01-18 07:31:15,">>107647007 switz is cool.. but Singapore is based as fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8rPofi-AUw",,Anonymous,15129402_1175483712519946_6192260933341647212_o.png,zIMupvM1HwNCQtl58fYmMQ==,ES,,1484724675 107640268,107647713,2017-01-18 07:36:40,">>107647289 Holy shit why are they such a dictatorship? Swiss is better and has a lower inflation rate.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484725000 107640268,107648122,2017-01-18 07:41:19,">>107647713 their cool dictator took a shithole to a top tier economy in three fucking decades you white money you've been hoarding gold the whole last century they've proved that prosperity doesn't even need to renew generations three fucking decades what if they were absolutly free instead of just a minarchy",,Anonymous,tfw_leafs_doing_better_than_you.jpg,uKhUj5cCycBw1eHGlr2hFA==,ES,,1484725279 107640268,107648896,2017-01-18 07:50:49,">>107648122 Of course Singapore's economy policy was amazing But their social and human rights policy is atrocious Also Switzerland has the highest local purchasing power in the world. Deflationary currencies are best",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484725849 107640268,107649421,2017-01-18 07:58:01,">>107641051 Dam you ass fucked whole facist argument with a single statement. Bravo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484726281 107640268,107649706,2017-01-18 08:01:28,">>107648896 Gold is best than switz monopoly money, not subjected to democracy ocurrences and it's been beating it, as always does and as always will",,Anonymous,15317936_1185625421505775_1330841818728057929_n.png,gGLUgX3jP4xxJx+JqvM6KA==,ES,,1484726488 107640268,107649727,2017-01-18 08:01:51,">>107643869 Fuck you. Portuguese fucking run shit. Who do you think flooded your country's with niggers? Even Jews bow down to us we the master.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484726511 107640268,107650154,2017-01-18 08:07:11,">>107640268 Anarcho-capitalism was a mistake. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rh9zii64eVMtfF5cwEKpx1QAKk9ZP4lDkGl4OSzXiSI/",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1484726831 107640268,107650243,2017-01-18 08:08:14,">>107649706 Not necesserely gold,but any currency backed with a physical object is far better than this satanic thing we call Fiat currency",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484726894 107640268,107650479,2017-01-18 08:11:01,">>107640363 When your leader dies, who replaces him? Monarchy is the true redpill",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484727061 107640268,107650641,2017-01-18 08:12:48,">>107641328 >Brazilian You would be first to the gallows im afraid.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484727168 107640268,107650805,2017-01-18 08:14:41,">>107643063 >love thy neighbour",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484727281 107640268,107650880,2017-01-18 08:15:36,">>107643222 >lose argument >resort to calling people kikes Stealth jew detected",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484727336 107640268,107650890,2017-01-18 08:15:45,">>107650479 Feodal confederate monarchies are the best",,Anonymous,image.jpg,sn+mUdaAn9ZZDY/Mgwpxjw==,FR,,1484727345 107640268,107651091,2017-01-18 08:18:07,">>107650890 It worked for millennia. Faggots can't see this though because of the socialist cancer called 'muh equality'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484727487 107640268,107651815,2017-01-18 08:26:03,">>107651091 Physical removal when ?",,Anonymous,image.jpg,8S+bz2Z5IHEKiXwK5d+HPg==,FR,,1484727963 107640268,107652081,2017-01-18 08:29:03,>this kills the lolbertarian,,Anonymous,roads.jpg,JBSWVIqQRGv79nlSHt6vsw==,BR,,1484728143 107640268,107652569,2017-01-18 08:34:20,">>107651815 Why is he so BASED >>107652081 Brazil confirmed ancap",,Anonymous,Brazil-(((road))).jpg,3MiNrTbM9ecqJyiJ/Cr0DA==,SE,,1484728460 107640268,107652676,2017-01-18 08:35:23,>>107652569,,Anonymous,br1631.gif,CwB1lUsexLXGCNkMET0RTg==,SE,,1484728523 107640268,107652861,2017-01-18 08:37:29,">>107651815 Probably never. Too many homos on their own personal moral crusades",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484728649 107640268,107653132,2017-01-18 08:40:27,"AY to hol up *Abolishes the state So you be sayin *Returns to gold standard Lemy get this straight *Removes communists Taxation is theft an sheit?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484728827 107640268,107654079,2017-01-18 08:51:08,I'm just here for the snek memes.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484729468 107640268,107654132,2017-01-18 08:51:42,Some quotes from Hobbes on roads,,Anonymous,hoppe roads.png,LsHOaXKzpeBkOVd4C9qP5Q==,US,,1484729502 107640268,107654795,2017-01-18 08:59:54,>>107654079,,Anonymous,15622197_1202873959780921_6180033339710567280_n.jpg,YW5CcmPY5zp4+2mqkZ5STw==,US,,1484729994 107640268,107656165,2017-01-18 09:16:52,,,Anonymous,ancap (3).jpg,2erqFoRnh6YXAAwueHRKiw==,US,,1484731012 107640268,107657087,2017-01-18 09:26:58,">>107656165 I wish I could own a SAM battery in my backyard",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484731618 107640268,107658192,2017-01-18 09:39:46,,,Anonymous,snek (8).png,Nrx+cxQCzj86/KroRDrnKQ==,US,,1484732386 107640268,107658252,2017-01-18 09:40:32,">>107641051 BASED",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484732432 107640268,107658624,2017-01-18 09:44:59,">>107652676 >>107652569 also no roads in favelas kek favelas = ancap of googles",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484732699 107640268,107659210,2017-01-18 09:51:53,,,Anonymous,1482866616125.jpg,JgU0AXmRyb6JBGwqILKvQg==,BR,,1484733113 107640268,107659313,2017-01-18 09:53:16,">>107659210 That's the best snek meme as far as I'm concerned.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484733196 107640268,107661418,2017-01-18 10:15:46,,,Anonymous,ancap (2).jpg,cn7zYt0hboGsOYZ1jwY0SA==,US,,1484734546 107640268,107661590,2017-01-18 10:17:39,">>107640363 Dumb fash",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1484734659 107640268,107662968,2017-01-18 10:32:37,">>107642889 I don't get it it's just caterpillar tracks how does it turn",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484735557 107640268,107663219,2017-01-18 10:35:13,">>107659210 fuck off with your faggot watermark",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484735713 107640268,107663297,2017-01-18 10:36:01,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484735761 107640268,107663529,2017-01-18 10:38:24,">>107640363 nigger you're retarded. you can be free under facism. authoritarian =/= totalitarian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany#Gun_regulation_of_the_Third_Reich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany#Hitler.27s_views_on_economics unless you're a helicopter-worthy degenerate you are almost 100% free, and your government won't try to tread on you.",,Anonymous,1480788599603.png,g/yNYfh1jm4aI7ckxUtMsQ==,GB,,1484735904 107640268,107663840,2017-01-18 10:41:31,"This image dismantlea your whole """"""""""ideology""""""""""",,Anonymous,compass0428.jpg,a5Mk42oasT17O3O+keDS0g==,NL,,1484736091 107640268,107664396,2017-01-18 10:47:37,">>107663840 >being a roadcuck",,Anonymous,2ac957909e43177dedf22671799d720b.jpg,z79br+NYksCGSvlJUzvb+g==,SE,,1484736457 107640268,107664688,2017-01-18 10:50:36,>>107663297,,Anonymous,15940754_1228711117197205_2231849103720574679_n.png,153U7B83PBP8dt7TzwQC+Q==,ES,,1484736636 107640268,107665076,2017-01-18 10:54:20,">>107663529 >using the same logic as Chinese commies What's the point of all that if you're still just cowering under your regime, trying not to make waves?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484736860 107640268,107665290,2017-01-18 10:56:18,">>107665076 cowering? we aren't commies. They are the only people that should be cowering. them and niggers. also what the fuck do you mean by ""not make waves"".",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484736978 107640268,107665637,2017-01-18 10:59:32,">>107650479 The biggest issue with monarchy is that the first ruler will be absolutely amazing. He will change his nation and build an empire. His son may not be as grand or abitious (regression to the mean sucks), but he learns well from his father and is able to expant a little more, and maintain things at a nice and comfy state. The grandson of the ""pioneer king"" has never seen what its like to struggle for ones country, and has likely lived life in a comfy nation that has been far too comfy for far too long, regression to the mean further makes him less (potentioally) competent than his forefathers. As a result, things undergo a decline out of incompetent. The foruth generation has a society and rulers akin to what we see now. Decay, incompetence, and instability reign supreme and things are on the verge of collapse. The good news is that with current censored and public medical technology, we can have kings that live well over 100 - 150 years, perhaps more with future progress. Meaning that we may be entering an era where (especially combined with mass unemployment, wrlfare and a very gullible populace under a neofeudal corporate structure with faction wars galore); a good strong monarchy may once again be the best form of government and a much longer lasting one.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484737172 107640268,107665949,2017-01-18 11:02:41,">>107663529 I'm personally down for peace between our tribes, just don't you even try to tread on me m8.",,Anonymous,Badge (5).png,gHBSJychSk3TT1CCGIYTTg==,US,,1484737361 107640268,107666137,2017-01-18 11:04:38,">>107665949 are you a nigger?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484737478 107640268,107666301,2017-01-18 11:06:12,">>107665076 >trying not to make waves? making waves = being a flaming faggot, a pedo, a kike lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484737572 107640268,107666333,2017-01-18 11:06:33,">>107663840 Bottom left wouldn't exist because no working people to tax. Top right would be for the El Presidente's Friends (tm) (c) Top left would not exist because all the workers starved.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484737593 107640268,107666366,2017-01-18 11:06:49,">>107666137 Fucks no. German Italian heritage amerrigan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484737609 107640268,107666423,2017-01-18 11:07:16,">>107666366 then no treading it is",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484737636 107640268,107666441,2017-01-18 11:07:25,What does /lrg/ think about Trump's protectionist ideas?,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1484737645 107640268,107666686,2017-01-18 11:09:42,">>107665949 I like it. Make the Swastika Green",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484737782 107640268,107667023,2017-01-18 11:12:48,">>107666686 Why? >>107666441 I'm cool with protectionism because those commie gooks are fucking us big time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484737968 107640268,107668455,2017-01-18 11:26:56,">>107663219 Remove it yourself faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484738816 107640268,107670135,2017-01-18 11:43:06,,,Anonymous,snek (4).png,HSRhqXOosdCV80w46sJgZQ==,US,,1484739786 107640268,107670645,2017-01-18 11:48:14,">be LIBERTARIAN >shitskins invade your country >you cant do anything because there is no government >form loosely organized local militias >they end up fighting each other instead of the invaders",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1484740094 107640268,107670796,2017-01-18 11:49:40,">>107670645 >they end up fighting each other instead of the invaders why?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484740180 107796049,107796049,2017-01-19 06:13:18,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. No matter your values be they Libertarian, Anarchist, or facsist. You have to go outside and make somthing of yourself. You can't just sit around in the yard all day sipping sweet tea like a nigger you have to go and get yourself a job. >Thread tunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zPv9EpdaxQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yjzp9UjWJQ >Post sneks >Post marxist cringe >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Stability",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - GET OFF THE COUCH AND GET A GOD DAMN JOB EDITION,Anonymous,Badge (6).png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1484806398 107796049,107796093,2017-01-19 06:13:58,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1484806438 107796049,107796229,2017-01-19 06:16:15,Just look at this fag. Do want this to take over your board?,,Anonymous,imgres.jpg,4qxVIRaf9amIUkV+5rIX5A==,US,,1484806575 107796049,107796281,2017-01-19 06:17:07,">>107796049 Free helicopter are always good",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484806627 107796049,107796304,2017-01-19 06:17:31,>>107796049,,Anonymous,1479576313100.jpg,YvfuO45CQIEzJtrI0HwQXw==,AU,,1484806651 107796049,107796327,2017-01-19 06:17:50,">>107796229 shit I posted a thumbnail",,Anonymous,Cringe_fa3cae_5331137.png,njAZECZnAKeuQoVITbKO9Q==,US,,1484806670 107796049,107796436,2017-01-19 06:19:21,This triggers the socialist.,,Anonymous,job-application-waste-time.jpg,evMfSJpsU9N3CiOsofZV9A==,US,,1484806761 107796049,107796486,2017-01-19 06:20:14,">>107796049 I have a job.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484806814 107796049,107796491,2017-01-19 06:20:18,">>107796049 This is ancap meme thread now",,Anonymous,image.jpg,qtPkUTG/2E9CJvFxKs+KLw==,AU,,1484806818 107796049,107796541,2017-01-19 06:20:55,>>107796049,,Anonymous,image.jpg,BPIws0FyxB8blyYXFIxKaw==,AU,,1484806855 107796049,107796580,2017-01-19 06:21:25,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,UYitAHE6AwUWSufQhazU7g==,AU,,1484806885 107796049,107796597,2017-01-19 06:21:47,AUTISTIC SCREECHING,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484806907 107796049,107796734,2017-01-19 06:23:45,">>107796486 Good. Now buy yourself a tomahawk missle. Every patriot needs one.",,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1484807025 107796049,107796749,2017-01-19 06:24:03,>>107796580,,Anonymous,1483774135414.jpg,upkNryraveucOpFG1Dcbiw==,US,,1484807043 107796049,107796780,2017-01-19 06:24:23,,,Anonymous,image.png,Sn322awl6paaIQ1hZ7GBIA==,AU,,1484807063 107796049,107796932,2017-01-19 06:26:23,>>107796049,,Anonymous,image.jpg,6470DpAMXC7Ue42ukA5RMw==,AU,,1484807183 107796049,107797006,2017-01-19 06:27:28,,,Anonymous,last ned (11).jpg,q7auYcqx/rilhDIl37h2NQ==,NO,,1484807248 107796049,107797055,2017-01-19 06:28:17,,,Anonymous,ancap_rule.jpg,C2D1ngGX5mdnBBS0/bqflg==,RS,,1484807297 107796049,107797086,2017-01-19 06:28:44,hi guys,,Anonymous,commiereee.jpg,aADkgOE+c2rBNYD04IoXqw==,US,,1484807324 107796049,107797137,2017-01-19 06:29:24,>>107797086,,Anonymous,snek (1).jpg,pz1AlTRxS+ILFG8xjn+G0Q==,US,,1484807364 107796049,107797159,2017-01-19 06:29:44,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,V+MjFN0L4uBYhVsZl1jvPA==,AU,,1484807384 107796049,107797216,2017-01-19 06:30:30,>Paying taxes so government can help you triggers autistic libertards,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1484807430 107796049,107797218,2017-01-19 06:30:31,"Any ancaps hate commies more than fascists? Not a fan of either but fuck are commies just the worst right now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484807431 107796049,107797353,2017-01-19 06:32:29,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,LHzTTNw7BY5FN+Ewaz5pYg==,AU,,1484807549 107796049,107797389,2017-01-19 06:33:11,"Have any of ye chaps read this book? Was it worth it? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1476752842/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=marketorder-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=1476752842&linkId=cc4c9e9f8961944288e45ef57317242b",,Anonymous,41nfe2OKNqL.jpg,8Dbwr+t12JrUx6mioNCdMQ==,NL,,1484807591 107796049,107797441,2017-01-19 06:33:54,>>107796049,,Anonymous,image.jpg,pF6GKcqKFBZ/My93WQgu1A==,AU,,1484807634 107796049,107797542,2017-01-19 06:35:08,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,ctyJpdk6WTauKPEp9m9oMA==,AU,,1484807708 107796049,107797550,2017-01-19 06:35:15,">>107796436 Fucking edgelord. No one enjoys filling out a billion applications.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484807715 107796049,107797582,2017-01-19 06:35:46,">>107797353 yeah anon the nap might be the ethical thing to do but the ethical thing to do isnt always the best option",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484807746 107796049,107797646,2017-01-19 06:36:45,,,Anonymous,image.png,3mVdTb4GcvCg8eW3uC4ADQ==,AU,,1484807805 107796049,107797822,2017-01-19 06:39:01,">>107797389 Haven't read it. theres not much info on the author but he seems somewhat based to me. >>107797550 Then go to place you like to work that you'd qualify for and ask for a job. This works as long as you aren't disgusting in your presentation.",,Anonymous,1482187323982.png,6VizFF6NSqApQCDNtwXcVg==,US,,1484807941 107796049,107797835,2017-01-19 06:39:13,">>107796491 Very good idea.",,Anonymous,1464227658424.jpg,hlnJkAtvgoxmGYKpbb9hvA==,AU,,1484807953 107796049,107797892,2017-01-19 06:39:54,,,Anonymous,image.png,VDxlUHMSqnzHX6x04IVOtg==,AU,,1484807994 107796049,107797985,2017-01-19 06:41:03,">>107797835 Thank you",,Anonymous,image.jpg,FXFMnJDPNSNAplMPx1zcug==,AU,,1484808063 107796049,107798062,2017-01-19 06:42:21,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,lk2MirNN09cLEdoY/UhJ1g==,AU,,1484808141 107796049,107798092,2017-01-19 06:42:51,,,Anonymous,1474232703661.jpg,fwtqm00ZpAMgVbGHMDqcVA==,AU,,1484808171 107796049,107798138,2017-01-19 06:43:31,">>107796049 >>107796093 Why not add some philosophy to that reading list? Because I find the people disagreeing with libertarians mostly don't know shit about moral philosophy above all else",,Anonymous,1483677338564.jpg,JbSO8hOxBA24OTkE2WPjBg==,RS,,1484808211 107796049,107798157,2017-01-19 06:43:44,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,F8e8qWth8R0zizWvveRE2A==,AU,,1484808224 107796049,107798164,2017-01-19 06:43:48,>When you enjoy AnCap memes so much that you unironically become an AnCap because once you started actually thinking about it you couldn't morally justify taxation,,Anonymous,thumbs up.jpg,jJCEo2aDFg3Cwt08IdA99Q==,US,,1484808228 107796049,107798171,2017-01-19 06:43:52,">>107796049 Fuck off",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484808232 107796049,107798214,2017-01-19 06:44:33,">>107798138 Have any suggestions?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484808273 107796049,107798249,2017-01-19 06:45:15,,,Anonymous,1446087949399.png,7NO2y8cC5uiB7iB7lLpWNA==,AU,,1484808315 107796049,107798286,2017-01-19 06:45:46,He was a queer,,Anonymous,image.jpg,AznzYbXvEyySCKB9C54kRA==,AU,,1484808346 107796049,107798352,2017-01-19 06:46:33,,,Anonymous,1470688855379.png,nTkAKJ6Ky0NMQS57ElrOAA==,AU,,1484808393 107796049,107798357,2017-01-19 06:46:38,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,tCOrtUEkwTf0wcqGiglLAA==,AU,,1484808398 107796049,107798458,2017-01-19 06:48:09,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,pR59Pr2P8vKlT68CGDMQZg==,AU,,1484808489 107796049,107798500,2017-01-19 06:48:51,,,Anonymous,14499059_1390955890938749_654075797799174144_n.jpg,WsIIIbAq/qEKgtEJjqSQdQ==,ES,,1484808531 107796049,107798589,2017-01-19 06:50:05,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,/gl8QUpTTQ1jCBH/xUwrIA==,AU,,1484808605 107796049,107798671,2017-01-19 06:51:20,,,Anonymous,image.png,cqs5TGapuBsdG8fAsWZrLQ==,AU,,1484808680 107796049,107798738,2017-01-19 06:52:28,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,cCqaNWDl9yvxG53zy1CukQ==,AU,,1484808748 107796049,107798803,2017-01-19 06:53:33,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,xXB+hpyjFoeYQZGGDrH6HA==,AU,,1484808813 107796049,107798839,2017-01-19 06:54:02,">>107798214 sure Free to Choose: A Personal Statement by Milton Friedman and Rose Friedman Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand - ofc... The Constitution of Liberty by Friedrich Hayek Rights of Man by Thomas Pain Aristotle - Nicomachean Ethics John Stuart Mill - On Liberty / Utilitarianism Second Treatise of Civil Government by John Locke there are many more but these are ok for now",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1484808842 107796049,107798954,2017-01-19 06:55:32,">>107798803 holy shit thats dank. >107798839 Thanks, I will get some links and add em in next time around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484808932 107796049,107798972,2017-01-19 06:55:45,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,9GqQhEsx+5pxQXN5c98dVg==,AU,,1484808945 107796049,107798973,2017-01-19 06:55:46,">>107797218 I Would feel no remorse killing a commie Also keep posting those ancap memes I love them",,Anonymous,d78420db51e952cb9222224ccb7b09e7.jpg,PmS7j3wt8GTKrzyMRdX4Qw==,SE,,1484808946 107796049,107799139,2017-01-19 06:57:41,">>107798839 Locke should be a good start",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484809061 107796049,107799142,2017-01-19 06:57:43,">>107798803 Holy shit thats dank. >>107798839 Thanks, I will get some links and add em in next time around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484809063 107796049,107799226,2017-01-19 06:58:53,">>107796049 Fuck roads!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484809133 107796049,107799287,2017-01-19 06:59:30,"Considering it is a pretty controverse discussed topic, even among ancaps, what is your stance on intellectual property? Do you support some form of copyright or do you think intellectual property isn't property? I for one think monoplizing ideas discourages possible competitors from creating their own product, which might turn out either cheaper or more effective, thus reducing the natural competition of the free market. I am open to other points of views, as this is one of the aspects of Anarcho Capitalism I still try to form a coherent opinion about.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484809170 107796049,107799292,2017-01-19 06:59:33,">>107797353 Not my problem. It's up the the land owner to pull the lever.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484809173 107796049,107799370,2017-01-19 07:00:33,,,Anonymous,IMG_0680.png,HBKwXdl9gF86a/JJra5x3g==,US,,1484809233 107796049,107799384,2017-01-19 07:00:45,>>107796049,,Anonymous,image.png,V0h6kZAm5KqRcm1LvqkWxg==,AU,,1484809245 107796049,107799424,2017-01-19 07:01:10,"im all for free markets but how are countries supposed to develop manufacturing without government intervention poorest nations in africa fell for the free trade meme while America had high tariffs till the 70's",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484809270 107796049,107799498,2017-01-19 07:02:01,">>107798138 >>107798214 https://freedomainradio.com/free/ i hope you are doing well",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484809321 107796049,107799600,2017-01-19 07:03:26,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,Ny6olESyjPznkYGXU5kJlg==,AU,,1484809406 107796049,107799617,2017-01-19 07:03:43,">>107799287 Ideas don't suffer from scarcity and cannot be property but there are certainly arguments for the contrary. I swing back and forth on the issue",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484809423 107796049,107799763,2017-01-19 07:05:24,">>107799424 Foreign investors. These countries are crawling with cheap labour. Are they gonna be exploited? Probably. But this ""being exploited"" is only exploitation compared to our standards. It would most likely improve their lifes by a huge margin, if some structure was applied to their every day.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484809524 107796049,107799803,2017-01-19 07:05:52,">>107798839 I would also add Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell as a great first read as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484809552 107796049,107799874,2017-01-19 07:06:41,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,UC9K5B3JSLriqH3PBHpJ2w==,AU,,1484809601 107796049,107800001,2017-01-19 07:08:00,">>107799287 The internet makes intellectual property null and void IMO We all steal music right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484809680 107796049,107800007,2017-01-19 07:08:03,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,YoS3IzfJs0NOrMjtBx3hZw==,AU,,1484809683 107796049,107800058,2017-01-19 07:08:40,">>107799763 >china buys loads of land and resources in Tanzania >only hires Chinese >corrupt gov officials pocket the cash >tanzanian populace is sucked try of resources really makes my neurons fire",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484809720 107796049,107800082,2017-01-19 07:08:57,">>107800001 Can't be considered stealing unless you do some mental gymnastics",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484809737 107796049,107800108,2017-01-19 07:09:10,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,6dQMG5280BW/qbOyqJP+Ag==,AU,,1484809750 107796049,107800277,2017-01-19 07:11:08,">>107799803 >audiobook Thomas Sowell collection >magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8f72a1a728e291d8e2524cf820cee16e7f8986c2 If every high school student listened to the first couple hours of Basic Econ, it would change the world in a generation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484809868 107796049,107800312,2017-01-19 07:11:35,">>107799803 Yeah great book. But a hell of a read. You have to be really interested in getting the economic redpill, because otherwise you'll stay a fucking cunt. That book is awesome. Also if you don't want to read 650 pages of hardcore economics lessons, you could also start with Economics In One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. (he litt tho)",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484809895 107796049,107800355,2017-01-19 07:12:06,">>107800001 Well, you could argue that ""stealing"" music is not theft. You can view it as cheaper alternative that offers a worse quality, competing with the original product, while more expensive, offers better quality. Without copyright laws musicians/labels would be encouraged to either lower their prices or offer more in exchange for the money spent, thus being able to compete.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484809926 107796049,107800477,2017-01-19 07:13:29,">>107800058 >government officials I thought we were talking about absolute and worldwide Ancapistan. In this case it is of course a bit different.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484810009 107796049,107800491,2017-01-19 07:13:38,">>107800312 >Economics In One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. Good babbys economics book. Great start and an easy read",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484810018 107796049,107800604,2017-01-19 07:15:07,">>107800312 Haven't heard of Hazlitt but I will check him out thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484810107 107796049,107800696,2017-01-19 07:16:21,">>107799803 I would also like to add, that if you read this book it's all you need to know. Also about politics. You'll know why there is no good system currently, because people always go for the money and are so fucking easily corrupted. Follow the money and you'll know. That why I always say play the Jew game. Learn how money works and life will become so much easier. After you have some money you can do whatever you want. Like influence people politically to get your point across. Endless whining on an imageboard will only get you so far. Oh and if you want good economic explanations on a podcast search for The Jason Stapleton Program. He's neither left or right. And gives great opinions and sees right through the bullshit.",,Anonymous,JSPsneksnekkie.jpg,B+R6Z5Gy6ysKSEylpj98ug==,NL,,1484810181 107796049,107800697,2017-01-19 07:16:23,">Daughter burns coal lolbertarians will defend this >Muslims have higher replacement rate of christians/athiests lolbertarians will defend this >Mr Goldstein continues to manipulate the public with racemixing, anti-white and marxist propaganda lolbertarians will defend this >The democratic system gets manipulated by marxists lolbertarians will defend this >As Muslims are breeding like flies, they end up turning your society into a caliphate lolbertarians will defend this Face it cuckbertarians. You're not much better than the Cultural Marxists and Commies. People are fucking retards and need authority. Admit it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484810183 107796049,107800873,2017-01-19 07:18:32,">>107799803 >>107800277 >>107800312 Absolutely. There are a lot more books that could have been included. >>107800697 You are a fucking moron. You don't even know what you are talking about.",,Anonymous,1464738970953.jpg,DZJmJ6X+B209Tl9mNROWjw==,RS,,1484810312 107796049,107800989,2017-01-19 07:19:59,">>107800697 >>Daughter burns coal >lolbertarians will defend this Up to you to teach your daughter not to cuck herself. Also implying nigs can survive without welfarebucks >>Muslims have higher replacement rate of christians/athiests >lolbertarians will defend this Same thing >>Mr Goldstein continues to manipulate the public with racemixing, anti-white and marxist propaganda >lolbertarians will defend this Physical removal >>The democratic system gets manipulated by marxists >lolbertarians will defend this Oh you are a retard nvm >>As Muslims are breeding like flies, they end up turning your society into a caliphate >lolbertarians will defend this >Face it cuckbertarians. You're not much better than the Cultural Marxists and Commies. >People are fucking retards and need authority. Admit it. Projecting of the highest order",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484810399 107796049,107801017,2017-01-19 07:20:24,">>107800697 Your sacred authority is the reason for the muslims to come here in the first place. If you would give absolute power to a person you deem ""red-pilled"" you have no guarantee that he will act forever in your interest. The only way to enforce your own interest is by being the authority yourself, which one can only achieve by removing every last bit of tyranny above oneself.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484810424 107796049,107801139,2017-01-19 07:21:48,">>107796049 >tfw landed second interview for new job >get to wear a suit everyday Fucking badass man, I'm gonna make some good money this year for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484810508 107796049,107801216,2017-01-19 07:22:45,">>107800989 why even try to reason with a retard man, he is clearly mixing libertarianism and liberalism beside all else not to mention he doesn't have any idea what hes talking about in general, he just wandered in like a lost child",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1484810565 107796049,107801240,2017-01-19 07:23:00,">>107800697 >the government kick you out of your home because they allow refugees coming statists will defend this >muslims maje children and kill kaffirs because the gov banned guns and give them welfare statists will defend this >mr Leibowitz gets a seat in the gov executive and make anti-discriminatory laws statists will defend this >democracy >ancap approved yeah no >muslims create a caliphate because the gov made offending their beliefs illegal statists will defend this",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484810580 107796049,107801290,2017-01-19 07:23:36,">>107801139 Good for you, burgerbro. Be happy that you can keep more than 50% of your salary, not everbody can be this lucky.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484810616 107796049,107801304,2017-01-19 07:23:49,">>107800697 >Daughter burns coal >Mr Goldstein continues to manipulate the public with racemixing, anti-white and marxist propaganda Government runs on public opinion, even fascist governments. They couldn't act in ways that pissed off their entire populace. If we went totalitarian right now there is no guarantee the government would even attempt to ban those things because the public doesn't give a shit about race-mixing. >Muslims have higher replacement rate of christians/athiests >The democratic system gets manipulated by marxists >As Muslims are breeding like flies, they end up turning your society into a caliphate As for these, almost all libertarians on /pol/ take the Hoppe approach to immigration and democracy.",,Anonymous,1483324598146.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,US,,1484810629 107796049,107801317,2017-01-19 07:23:59,">>107797542 underrated",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484810639 107796049,107801890,2017-01-19 07:31:35,">>107801290 I know, I was shilling hard for trump. Come here man, my girls friends parents just came to Michigan they're German as fuck. The one chick is a complete hipster looking feminist and her grandfather was a Nazi, kek.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484811095 107796049,107801925,2017-01-19 07:32:02,">>107800873 We should make libertarian general a thing and read pic related as a group. Any thoughts anons?",,Anonymous,Rothbard-MES.jpg,ycEoa9LNUlaoBMLBW+iYJw==,US,,1484811122 107796049,107802093,2017-01-19 07:34:00,">>107799292 this",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484811240 107796049,107802224,2017-01-19 07:36:00,">>107801925 This is the general and it is a thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484811360 107796049,107802362,2017-01-19 07:37:57,">>107797353 >>107797582 If you can say to yourself logically with an argument that the land owner would be completely fine with the decision than it is morally right to pull the lever, of course. If you need to save a life then it is safe to assume the owner is good with that and they will be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484811477 107796049,107802395,2017-01-19 07:38:24,">>107802224 ye I know it's just rarer than /nsg/.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484811504 107796049,107802565,2017-01-19 07:40:47,">>107801890 In the coming years more and more Germans probably will emigrate into the USA anyway. It will be GDR all over again, commies that love their government will stay until it is too late and people who don't close their eyes from reality will get the fuck off the sinking ship. I give it 10 years tops before Europe will be a full blown dictatorship, even more than it is now.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484811647 107796049,107802605,2017-01-19 07:41:25,">>107797353 This begs the question of how the people got tied up there in the first place. If they were put there by force it wouldn't be violating the NAP to save them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484811685 107796049,107802632,2017-01-19 07:41:48,">>107802395 Been doing one every day for about a week now as I will continue to do.",,Anonymous,senate.png,N1W8yZvOy7jVlVPlUORZIA==,US,,1484811708 107796049,107802642,2017-01-19 07:41:51,">>107801925 I'm all for, and I was thinking of doing it myself but I can't find time for it. pol is just terrible these days",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1484811711 107796049,107802675,2017-01-19 07:42:11,">>107800989 >Up to you to teach your daughter not to cuck herself. Also implying nigs can survive without welfarebucks Unfortunately, we now share our nations with sub humans. Most parents are completely naive to the dangers of racemixing >welfare I never said I promote welfare. >Same thing Well enjoy being muslim. Mrs Khalifa has 6 kids by the time she's 27, while Bridget over there wants to ''start a career''. >psychical removal So not Libertarian then? >Oh you are a retard nvm So you're saying that there isn't a marxist problem amongst your civilians? >Projecting of the highest order If it's happening in Centrist republics, it will easily happen in a Libertarian society. >>107801017 I never said I supported dictatorships. Social-Centrist Capitalism combined Media is the reason why the west is fucked. >>107801240 >the government kick you out of your home because they allow refugees coming statists will defend this Implying I'm an Identity politics/PC socialist. >muslims maje children and kill kaffirs because the gov banned guns and give them welfare statists will defend this Implying I said I wanted to ban firearms >mr Leibowitz gets a seat in the gov executive and make anti-discriminatory laws statists will defend this Implying I'm an Identity politics/PC socialist, and a supporter of Bureaucrats >democracy >ancap approved yeah no Libertarian =/= AnCap >muslims create a caliphate because the gov made offending their beliefs illegal statists will defend this Implying I'm an Identity politics/PC socialist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484811731 107796049,107802751,2017-01-19 07:43:22,>>107799600,,Anonymous,1484755186059.jpg,xMnrKcfVfDeOg8ZTyS7QcQ==,NO,,1484811802 107796049,107802752,2017-01-19 07:43:22,"You can blame the kikes all you want but its the government that imports shitskins, gives out welfare and enforces equality quotas. I just want my guns back ;_;",,Anonymous,hipitty hoppity.jpg,C+lrpx33m/Rf0pXhIJIQEg==,AU,,1484811802 107796049,107802884,2017-01-19 07:45:10,">>107802675 >I never said I supported dictatorships. Every form of government is dictatorship. It pushes everything you said you despise with YOUR money. Try to stop paying in any form of government and they will come for you, even if you don't agree with how they use your money. No dictatorship my fucking ass.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484811910 107796049,107803087,2017-01-19 07:47:59,">>107802675 see, it's enough for me to know that you are willing to be a mice, a slave to the big daddy just to have him take care of your problems for you you are a parasite leeching of the blood of the man all else is irrelevant when you are, by your own chosing, an immoral parasite",,Anonymous,1464592472183.jpg,4zjCKbgAvkP0C612JvwCUA==,RS,,1484812079 107796049,107803379,2017-01-19 07:51:34,">>107802675 >So not Libertarian then? No I am ancap of the hoppean variety but I will argue the libertarian viewpoint anyway. >Unfortunately, we now share our nations with sub humans. Most parents are completely naive to the dangers of racemixing Subhumans are here because of the welfare state. As for most parents being naive that isn't my problem, they will ahve to go educate once public schooling has been abolished and statesponsored propaganda for egalitiarianism has ended >Well enjoy being muslim. Mrs Khalifa has 6 kids by the time she's 27, while Bridget over there wants to ''start a career''. She can't pay for those kids without welfare >So you're saying that there isn't a marxist problem amongst your civilians? There absolutely is and they will have to fuck off, whether by force or through philosophy, but they will not use the state as their propaganda machine to indoctrinate.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484812294 107796049,107803763,2017-01-19 07:56:36,"Ok, as the thread is slowing down, I'll try to get another discussion started. I have another question: How should abortions be handled in a AnCap society. Should the fetus be viewed as property of the mother, as long as it is unborn, or should natural rights also apply to the unborn baby? And if so, who would enforce this, as a woman could simply see a doctor willing to abort the baby while the baby is unable to defend itself.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484812596 107796049,107804106,2017-01-19 08:00:51,">>107803763 I don't see how this could be enforced. Any punishment taken on the mother effects the fetus as well. it is in a way an impossible hostage situation.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484812851 107796049,107804262,2017-01-19 08:02:50,">>107800697 >implying anyone other than my and my SO's sexlife is my business >implying muslims aren't dependant on welfare to do this >implying I care what other people have to say, under libertarianism i'd have my guns so they can talk all they want and action would be punished >democracy is statist >obey sharia law >no >we'll make you >militia",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484812970 107796049,107804263,2017-01-19 08:02:51,">>107803763 I guess depending upon how far along is she. Do we consider the baby to be a fellow citizen as soon as the mother is pregnant?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484812971 107796049,107804344,2017-01-19 08:03:44,">>107797137 My journey, in one image.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484813024 107796049,107804578,2017-01-19 08:06:36,"Is OP pro-globalism and how what is OP's take on regulation of businesses? Is it truly ""economic freedom"" if one company grows so large due to the absence of regulations that it gets a monopoly on the market? Then it has used its economic freedom to kille economic freedom, no? In that case said company would be acting like as per the communist style; a drop in quality and high prices due to no competition? Would this be fair play according to you, or should some preventative regulations be imposed and if so, which?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484813196 107796049,107804734,2017-01-19 08:08:24,">>107804106 That's the problem, The fetus can't defend itself and any attempt to defend it also could harm it. And how could one justify punishing the doctor for helping in a voluntary exchange. >>107804263 I'd say yes, but that only creates the question, who would be considered the ""murderer"" and who would be the one to defend the violation of the NAP in the babies place? The result of these difficulties probably would result in a acceptance of abortion, even if that would mean acepting a form of violation of the NAP, as it is the most simple way. Well, in theory, a bunch of rich moralists could pay a private organization to act as a Fetus Defence Force, but that is some seriously whacked out thought territory.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484813304 107796049,107804842,2017-01-19 08:09:57,">>107803763 following the NAP the mother can use force to remove an unwanted presence in her property (her body), much as you would use a gun to kill a burglar",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484813397 107796049,107804874,2017-01-19 08:10:35,">>107803763 Obvious violation of the NAP and an absolutely immoral act.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484813435 107796049,107804878,2017-01-19 08:10:37,">>107804578 Once the quality drops and the prices rise, other entrepreneurs will the opportunity and start competing again. Your thought would imply that not everbody could just start up a business, but since there are no regulations, it is nearly impossible to not have competition.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484813437 107796049,107804956,2017-01-19 08:11:36,">>107804878 will use the opportunity*",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484813496 107796049,107805151,2017-01-19 08:13:58,">>107804842 >unwanted presence it can not be unwanted because her actions led to her being pregnant, unless she was raped",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484813638 107796049,107805286,2017-01-19 08:15:41,">>107804842 but is it unwanted presence, because it may have been her intention to get pregnant and then changed her mind that a violation of NAP in a way, like inviting someone to your home to give him you tv and then shooting him for burglary",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1484813741 107796049,107805425,2017-01-19 08:17:25,">>107805151 you can invite someone into your house but if they refuse to leave when you tell them to, that's an nap violation",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484813845 107796049,107805512,2017-01-19 08:18:35,">>107800277 forgive me for being a subhuman nigger but i want to educate myself. how do i use that link? thx",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1484813915 107796049,107805539,2017-01-19 08:18:52,">>107805425 Not if you have essentially trapped them there",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484813932 107796049,107805606,2017-01-19 08:19:37,">>107805512 >have torrent client installed >copy paste into browser or the torrent client",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484813977 107796049,107805648,2017-01-19 08:20:12,">>107805425 >>107804842 Well, the baby didn't ask to be in the woman's body either, she ""brought"" it in there, so one has no justification to interpret it as invasion of her property., thus killing the baby would be an unjustified violation of the NAP, but since the child can't defend itself, no consequences can follow.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484814012 107796049,107805660,2017-01-19 08:20:18,">>107805512 dude, drop that subhuman shit, it's a meme anyway, being subhuman is a moral category not a national or racial one just copy it, or just google how to use magnet links",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1484814018 107796049,107805893,2017-01-19 08:22:51,">>107805539 >>107805648 fine then, the woman however is entitled to introduce whatever she wants into her body, even if the end result is killing off something depending on that body the blood supply is a form of welfare; similar to rothbard's quote about parents being under no obligation to feed their children",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484814171 107796049,107806270,2017-01-19 08:27:22,">>107805893 Well, I don't agree with him in that point, so do many others. Humans can't be property, otherwise the whole principal of the NAP wouldn't work. This means, not feeding your child is not doing what you want to your property but rather indirectly killing your child, thus violating the NAP. Without holding the principle of the value of human life above else, Anarcho Capitalism can't work, well, at least not in a desirable way. These minimal moral obligations are a worthwhile price to pay.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484814442 107796049,107806351,2017-01-19 08:28:25,">>107805893 well, they are under a moral one don't forget that ideal here is to be a good/best individual you can and that includes morality above all else",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1484814505 107796049,107806412,2017-01-19 08:29:02,,,Anonymous,1484767306194.jpg,QPiHmb0fMxTNtIwyYc7PLw==,BG,,1484814542 107796049,107806657,2017-01-19 08:32:00,">live in the sticks of Kentucky >out in a field along the wood edge >smoke meth, hop into old 71 stang, no cat converter or muffler attached >do 80+ mph tearin shit up >while shooting grandad's M16 he brought back from Nam in full-auto at targets set up on the trees out the driver-side window >listening to Kickstart My Heart Authoritards will never know the sensation.",,Anonymous,do it faggot.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,US,,1484814720 107796049,107807208,2017-01-19 08:38:21,"Hello fellow goys! Isn't libertarianism great? It has nothing to do with open borders, globalism, relativism and corporatism",,Anonymous,5t5fhrmg98ay.jpg,EtGWLTjpP76BxckulCP5ow==,BE,,1484815101 107796049,107807271,2017-01-19 08:39:05,">>107806657 noice",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484815145 107796049,107807366,2017-01-19 08:40:09,">>107807208 >It has nothing to do with open borders, globalism, relativism and corporatism You're right. It doesn't.",,Anonymous,1388419966609.jpg,NeOmqtha7MqCyc0TO6+clA==,US,,1484815209 107796049,107807380,2017-01-19 08:40:20,>>107796049,,Anonymous,1484740716536.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,BR,,1484815220 107796049,107807390,2017-01-19 08:40:25,">>107802884 A stare is neede for law and order, especially as we've become secular. >>107803087 >muh daddy welfare state I never said I needed any of those. I said that society as a whole, needs them, and that doesn't mean welfare either. It's law and order. >>107803379 All these things sound idealistic, but it's still going to result with a worser off world and brain drain. Them muzzies are still going to outbreed you too, and no they won't be going back to tatooine either",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484815225 107796049,107807455,2017-01-19 08:41:07,">>107807208 >Jewish strawman Also, without social benefits, why would a nog decide to come, anyway? And even if he came, communities have the right to not let them into their midst, read Hoppe to get an idea. And lastly, their is nothing wrong with economic globalism, it's the political globalism (pushed by the government) that is screwing us over.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484815267 107796049,107807481,2017-01-19 08:41:31,">>107804878 Without regulations how would you stop monopolies from using money to get lawmakers to push laws favoring them? And also stomping out competition by offering super low prices which nobody can compete with?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484815291 107796049,107807496,2017-01-19 08:41:40,"not politics please leave. go watch barney because you're all a bunch of fucking children",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484815300 107796049,107807503,2017-01-19 08:41:42,">>107807208 why are you bringing in your silly collectivist propaganda naziboo? shoo shoo",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484815302 107796049,107807549,2017-01-19 08:42:21,,,Anonymous,1482866616125.jpg,JgU0AXmRyb6JBGwqILKvQg==,BR,,1484815341 107796049,107807600,2017-01-19 08:43:01,">>107807481 >And also stomping out competition by offering super low prices which nobody can compete with? THE HORROR",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484815381 107796049,107807648,2017-01-19 08:43:34,">>107807549 I love these. Also, Gadsden edits.",,Anonymous,1475477322192.jpg,70+T6AP90kIn93YXGUNbgg==,US,,1484815414 107796049,107807675,2017-01-19 08:43:57,">>107807390 a minimal state is the libertarian position >fraud >aggression are the only things it legislates tho",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484815437 107796049,107807698,2017-01-19 08:44:12,,,Anonymous,1482866637767.jpg,gSLUPyGk4EjjP9qBGusafg==,BR,,1484815452 107796049,107807752,2017-01-19 08:44:57,">>107807481 there would be no lawmaking apparatus or politicians just a nightwatchman state",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484815497 107796049,107807759,2017-01-19 08:45:04,">>107807390 >law and order Like the laws that forbid you to speak what you think? Those, that say some things are right and some are wrong, and if you say the wrong things, you are being arrested? There are only the natural laws of the integrity of your property and yourself, and those can be protected by yourself. Any other ""laws"" are created by the government to sustain itself. (stopping ""illegal"" opinions that could harm them; taxation, so it can keep on existing; ideologically based school curriculas, to keep the youth in line with what the government deems as correct; etc.)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484815504 107796049,107807804,2017-01-19 08:45:29,">>107807390 >but it's still going to result with a worser off world and brain drain. You need to make an argument for why this would happen >Them muzzies are still going to outbreed you too, and no they won't be going back to tatooine either They can do whatever they want in their shitholes which they will go back to once the gibs end",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484815529 107796049,107807851,2017-01-19 08:46:02,">>107807208 You know the anti jew stuff is because of totalitarian enslavement through government and fiat currency, not just being jewish.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484815562 107796049,107807867,2017-01-19 08:46:13,">>107804578 Op here late as fuck to reply, not for globalization the states who govern themselves should stay small and sovereign. And pretty much what Germany said, monopolies are the result of regulations that are in favor of a specific company.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484815573 107796049,107807894,2017-01-19 08:46:32,">>107798839 > Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand Came here to see what you guys were offering. Saw this, did a 360 right away",,Anonymous,IMG_2110.png,CI2YM65MHhrROXnwS+waWA==,PT,,1484815592 107796049,107807909,2017-01-19 08:46:42,Anyone else enjoy buying sheets of LSD with bitcoin and having the law kiss your ass as you import the finest dream candy right to your house using a currency that never passes through a bank?,,Anonymous,1436278194624.jpg,fx08MaV1zKckdJJ7NqAVrw==,US,,1484815602 107796049,107807992,2017-01-19 08:47:43,">>107807894 She is our top meme to trigger commies and democrats",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484815663 107796049,107808007,2017-01-19 08:47:51,">>107807759 I'm talking about encouragement. People need to grow up well, and not be manipulated by marxist brainwashing. Again, I never said I was anti-free speech. Libertarians seem to think that the person they're arguing with is either a totalitarian supporter or a commie",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484815671 107796049,107808131,2017-01-19 08:49:14,">>107807909 No but it makes me happy when other people use bitcoin to buy goods and services without the state being able to do shit about it",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484815754 107796049,107808173,2017-01-19 08:49:42,">>107807208 >open borders The libertarian idea for open borders (no gibs, no quotas, no special rights) is ""literally hitler"" tier today. You're spreading cheeks for Jamal because of the commie conceptions that healthcare, education and accommodation are basic human rights, all races are equal, the many can live off the backs of the few and every person is a worthwhile investment.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1484815782 107796049,107808236,2017-01-19 08:50:22,">>107807804 >You need to make an argument for why this would happen >Marxist brainwashing and racemixing continues >whites continue to get wiped out >They can do whatever they want in their shitholes which they will go back to once the gibs end Why would they go back to war torn shitholes though?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484815822 107796049,107808299,2017-01-19 08:51:12,">>107807390 You dont need a state for law and order There is such a thing as natural law, look it up If mans law is in accordance with natural law, it is based in truth and thus obsolete, if its countering natural law, it is based on lies and therefore wrong. Read some actual anarchist literature instead of 4chan posts, you'll be surprised how illogical a state is.",,Anonymous,jesusanarchist.jpg,ruPFKP5PdrG5YLF0vD+OEw==,NL,,1484815872 107796049,107808313,2017-01-19 08:51:19,">>107808007 You as a parent are responsible to keep your child away from bad influences, and since nobody is able to enforce what you are allowed to think or not, you can tell your child whatever the fuck you want. You can ""redpill"" your child as hard as you want. Nobody could do jackshit if your kid rambles about how the jews are the greatest evil to ever exist, that's your and your child's problem.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484815879 107796049,107808314,2017-01-19 08:51:20,">>107808007 >People need to grow up well, and not be manipulated by marxist brainwashing. Best way to do this is to not grow up in a city. Really, it's urban life that destroys the soul most of all. No motherfucker who grew up cuttin/hangin tobacco(tabacca as we call it) becomes a fucking pinko.",,Anonymous,1436274693986.jpg,655aARIlLMgmeJ+vDQNiqg==,US,,1484815880 107796049,107808326,2017-01-19 08:51:29,">>107796436 no, socialists actually work unlike bank owners etc.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1484815889 107796049,107808343,2017-01-19 08:51:39,,,Anonymous,1457485847848.jpg,5+8NW2nLf9t0d3ItEWLUpQ==,BR,,1484815899 107796049,107808436,2017-01-19 08:52:35,">>107807992 I really came here thinking there was a overlap between my ""localist"" anti globalist personal ideology and you guys. But I can't get over the fact someone actually posted that garbage unironically. Here is a chance for you guys to get a decent debate: what do your ideology offer that is worth considering from a anti globalism and ""localist"" (on the lack of a better word) perspective? To summarize my ideology: > it opposes any kind of remote centralize global decision making. Think for instance states right vs. federalism or ""localism"" vs. globalism. > it doesn't oppose the existence of a national state as long as its attributions are very well delineated: common monetary policy, border defense, inter community (in America's case, interstate) arbitration. How is your guys philosophy different?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484815955 107796049,107808448,2017-01-19 08:52:45,">>107807894 cya, didn't want you here anyway >>107807390 law and order comes from within, what you want is something to leach on too freedom is what all this is about mate, plain and simple, freedom to chose and to be.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1484815965 107796049,107808505,2017-01-19 08:53:24,">>107807909 back in the day I used to take particular pride in selling pharma grade ket at really good prices kind of a professional pride",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484816004 107796049,107808611,2017-01-19 08:54:36,">>107808448 >freedom is what all this is about If you want total freedom then move to Greenland you fucking retard",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484816076 107796049,107808615,2017-01-19 08:54:40,">>107808326 >Advocating gibmedats >leeching on the society and other people who work or wanting others to do so Even if they work, their idea of ""fairness"" is cancerous and needs to be eradicated. Socialism is the bane of Europe.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484816080 107796049,107808632,2017-01-19 08:54:48,">>107808236 >>Marxist brainwashing and racemixing continues The main forms of marxist brainwashing happens through public schooling and media which they have hijacked with the help of government. This will end. >Why would they go back to war torn shitholes though? Well why are they here in the first place? they were imported here and were promised gibs. Now most of them have no valuable skills and they don't speak the native language of their host country. Why would they stay when they won't be able to sustain themselves. Now there will be a small number of them that will stay because they can find work but they are not the type to breed like rabbits. And they will have to invest in their offspring because society won't take care of them",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484816088 107796049,107808860,2017-01-19 08:57:07,">>107808611 >move to _______ great and unique argument mate, no one said that before",,Anonymous,1464452989369.jpg,WYmL4eBcOxicWXKBoKJDug==,RS,,1484816227 107796049,107808870,2017-01-19 08:57:12,"Maybe it is just me, but I prefer ancoms than fashies. If they want to have common ownership in their commune (their ""property""), they can do it as long as they don't violate the NAP of the people outside the communes. Meanwhile, fashies are authoritarian scums who advocate big government. I like ancoms so much that I would glad help them to throw the fashies out of the helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1484816232 107796049,107808887,2017-01-19 08:57:22,">>107808611 >being a statistcuck",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484816242 107796049,107808944,2017-01-19 08:57:48,">>107808436 our main takeaway would probably be free enterprise; the government would not be interfering in the private business of citizens - making it more prosperous to conduct and setup local community businesses",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484816268 107796049,107809020,2017-01-19 08:58:34,">>107808236 >Why would they go back to war torn shitholes though? They're only in western countries for the gibs. Until the 1960s when America decided a welfare state would be a great idea it was actually incredibly common for immigrants to return to their country of origin either because they couldn't hack it in the free market or because they weren't compatible with the culture, so it's not like self-deportation is some magical unknown phenomena. Mudslime culture isn't compatible with western culture, and shitting out twenty kids doesn't work if the government won't help you pay for them but also won't let you marry your preteen daughters off to their adult cousins when you can't pay afford to feed them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484816314 107796049,107809030,2017-01-19 08:58:41,">>107808505 >selling pharma grade Excellent. Always a fan of someone selling clean product. Funny enough, the (free)black online market has the cleanest stuff on earth. And you look at the RC market on the clearnet, like this joint- https://lysergi.com/ Look how well it works and how professional it is. THIS is what the entire drug market would look like if the government butted the fuck out. Shops. Businesses that cater to customers with high-quality goods at fair prices.",,Anonymous,1436466811887.jpg,S1uuNavqW47dSH6roP8P7g==,US,,1484816321 107796049,107809031,2017-01-19 08:58:41,">>107796580 Ancaps don't believe in intellectual property",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1484816321 107796049,107809129,2017-01-19 08:59:43,">>107808870 Well, you know what that would be? Individulaism (hence, AnCap), where you are able to form in a sovereign enclave. AnCom however wants this on a global scale, without having a entity that enforces the redistribution. So either you have Voluntarism or stupid mental gymnastics.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484816383 107796049,107809152,2017-01-19 08:59:53,">>107808436 What do you expect when you act like the common socialist retard? >> it opposes any kind of remote centralize global decision making. Think for instance states right vs. federalism or ""localism"" vs. globalism. 100% this but taken even further. Decentralization is the key to prosperity >>> it doesn't oppose the existence of a national state as long as its attributions are very well delineated: common monetary policy, border defense, inter community (in America's case, interstate) arbitration. This is up to the people but possible with volontary means",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484816393 107796049,107809293,2017-01-19 09:01:33,">>107809030 yerh, I used to keep my customer base due to actually observing proper business ideals >turn up when you say you'll be there >fair, consistent pricing and quality >proper advice, would supply in separate doses if asked just because you're operating outside regulations is no excuse for not keeping up standards RCs were great desu",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484816493 107796049,107809340,2017-01-19 09:02:06,">>107808860 All of your land is rightfully owned by your government. If you magically become ""ancap"" overnight what do you think happens to that land? Is it free for the taking? No. It's still going to be owned by the government, but you just won't call them the government- they'll simply be the most powerful private company in your land. Oh and now you're trespassing- into the oven you go. Fucking idiot Why do we tolerate this shit on our board?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484816526 107796049,107809403,2017-01-19 09:02:58,">>107808944 > the government would not be interfering in the private business of citizens - making it more prosperous to conduct and setup local community businesses How large is this non-interference. Border control, common monetary policy and inter community arbitration has a cost. What about smaller instances of state presence: in Americans case think country administration. How does it get paid for so they can provide services like running elections, organizing traffic, etc? Also, same question I always ask communists, marxists and any other ideology: what is the transition plan to go from where we are right now to where you propose things to be? In other words: by which means the people who holds the advantage in the present day system will be persuaded to let go of that advantage and migrate to the new system? What is the incentive?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484816578 107796049,107809576,2017-01-19 09:04:52,">>107809340 >the government officials would survive a turn into AnCap They will all hang for being the worst violators of the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484816692 107796049,107809597,2017-01-19 09:05:07,">>107809293 Your government did some retarded shit last year man. Thankfully a similar attempt has died here.",,Anonymous,1481782557841.jpg,OUAuzFDrfcEbLDOZ7Nl8LA==,US,,1484816707 107796049,107809599,2017-01-19 09:05:10,>>107797086,,Anonymous,1481464226245.jpg,cUQvKpttTUwU5xmjzfB3pg==,US,,1484816710 107796049,107809610,2017-01-19 09:05:19,">>107809340 >our board you are one delusional cunt and a leaf no less, that explains that socialist ""our"" too please be very mad about this being my board too, see what you can do about it",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1484816719 107796049,107809677,2017-01-19 09:06:10,"Lads i stood up and my cat has redistributed my chair Physically remove? Y/N",,Anonymous,IMAG0196.jpg,I4dlLdkMgM2Lt7hY3fRIjw==,GB,,1484816770 107796049,107809723,2017-01-19 09:06:38,">>107809576 They own the fucking land. It's theirs. You're the one violating the NAP by trespassing on their land you stupid kraut",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484816798 107796049,107809739,2017-01-19 09:06:47,">>107796049 as if liberterianism needed more contradictions",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1484816807 107796049,107809763,2017-01-19 09:07:04,">>107802752 saved",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484816824 107796049,107809770,2017-01-19 09:07:11,">>107809152 > when you act like the common socialist retard But I didn't and the fact you more or less agree with both my points demonstrate that. Ayn Rand is garbage sophomore fan fiction even if you agree with the basic ideas put forward in her writing. Please don't embarrass yourself defending it, there is much better literature advancing your point of view than that. > This is up to the people but possible with volontary means See and answer if you can the question in the last two paragraphs of >>107809403",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484816831 107796049,107809801,2017-01-19 09:07:28,">>107809340 >All of your land is rightfully owned by your government. If you magically become ""ancap"" overnight what do you think happens to that land? Is it free for the taking? No. It's still going to be owned by the government, but you just won't call them the government- they'll simply be the most powerful private company in your land. Oh and now you're trespassing- into the oven you go. Well Curtis, you set landmines on that shit(and other types of mines not easily detected and disarmed by sweepers) on your land(or as you call it the government's land) and see how many of their goons are willing to lose body parts to retake the property.",,Anonymous,1291889237109.jpg,Y2HVTPxTk70ZFpe0pkJiew==,US,,1484816848 107796049,107809828,2017-01-19 09:07:48,">>107809723 No the land is owned by taxpayers as it was public property. You havent even read one single page of hoppe have you",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484816868 107796049,107809857,2017-01-19 09:08:10,">>107809597 yerh, there's been a huge uptick in ecstasy supply since (anecdotal) of some seriously questionable quality since hurray for 'evidence based policy'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484816890 107796049,107809872,2017-01-19 09:08:23,">>107809610 >ad hominem >ignores argument >calls me a socialist",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484816903 107796049,107809875,2017-01-19 09:08:24,">>107809723 >he wants to be Trudeau's slave this badly",,Anonymous,14956024_1421100064858035_6722695049293885456_n.png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,SE,,1484816904 107796049,107809912,2017-01-19 09:08:54,">>107809677 thats the NAP violation you are authorized to nuke it",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484816934 107796049,107809946,2017-01-19 09:09:23,">>107796580 THEY ARE CALLED PICARDIAS REEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484816963 107796049,107809995,2017-01-19 09:09:59,">>107809723 >Government steals from the people for decades >imprisons and kills hundreds for not thinking what the governments says is right >""You are violating the NAP by defending yourself, so stop thinking these problematic thoughts about how the government is evil"" The government has no justification in owning anything. All of them are thieves and need to die.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484816999 107796049,107810014,2017-01-19 09:10:09,">>107809828 No, your taxes are your rent to exist on their land. You don't own it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484817009 107796049,107810028,2017-01-19 09:10:14,">>107809723 >contract with government the moment you are born even thou by their standards you can't consent >Enforcing that contract with force >I'm violating NAP wew lad",,Anonymous,1464588368783.jpg,DBFXxgh9Qk6ZY5z+298FUg==,RS,,1484817014 107796049,107810058,2017-01-19 09:10:31,">>107807481 Monopolies are created from regulation. Monopolies couldn't form in a free market. If someone created a more innovative product, then they could compete and people would be willing to spend more if they value the new product more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484817031 107796049,107810149,2017-01-19 09:11:37,">>107807549 kek saved",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484817097 107796049,107810263,2017-01-19 09:12:44,">>107809857 If I want MDMA, I make my own. Our land has no shortage of sass trees to get roots from. There's lots of good alts for it these days though. 6-APB, 5-MAPB, 4-FA, 3-MMC Not exactly like MDMA, but they have their charms.",,Anonymous,ultimate fear and lothing starter pack.jpg,4u4Z8tp66Ffi6Up6Xt7UAQ==,US,,1484817164 107796049,107810330,2017-01-19 09:13:29,">>107810014 Taxation is theft and slavery. If 100% of involuntary confiscation of the product of labour is slavery, there cant be a magical percentage where it is suddenly not slavery apart from 0%. >>107809497",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484817209 107796049,107810397,2017-01-19 09:14:17,">>107810028 Consent? You're using their property. You consent by using it, the same way you consent paying the loaf of bread your kid eats inside the retail store.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817257 107796049,107810503,2017-01-19 09:15:33,">>107810330 The airspace of a country is owned by the state. Let's call it ""breathing fee"" instead of taxes and your ancap dream is set.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817333 107796049,107810569,2017-01-19 09:16:16,">>107809770 >But I didn't and the fact you more or less agree with both my points demonstrate that. You saw Ayn Rand and got mad, this is how they all act. So I just assumed you were one >See and answer if you can the question in the last two paragraphs of There are two ways that I know of, either through philosophy where the people wise up and demand freedom or violent revultion against the state and those who serve it. And there is no way the leaders would give up the power they have, there is no incentive for collectivists",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484817376 107796049,107810570,2017-01-19 09:16:16,">>107810263 I'll take 4 orders of your pic pls.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484817376 107796049,107810577,2017-01-19 09:16:22,">>107810263 6-APB, had a fantastic night once mixing that with Viagra and my ex one new years never tried 4-FA but really want to desu, I've kind of stopped taking Add to dictionary stims nowadays after using huge amounts of MPA + MDAI combos don't really wanna ruin my brain ethylphenidate is probs the RC I miss above all wish 4chan had a drugs board, 420 is dead nowadays",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484817382 107796049,107810590,2017-01-19 09:16:31,">>107810397 Then how about this: You don't want to use public schooling or health care, yet you are obliged to pay for it or otherwise you will be arrested. That is the exact same thing, the government forces you to use it, and then forces you to pay for it. By using its power monopoly, the government effectively enslaves you.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484817391 107796049,107810668,2017-01-19 09:17:17,">>107810503 Yea but the state is an illusion. There is no legitimacy what so ever apart from ""because we say so"". Authority and statism are religions.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484817437 107796049,107810714,2017-01-19 09:17:44,">>107810397 what the fuck are you even talking about? how is existence = consent? do you understand that that's an ontological paradox, existence in not a fucking choice",,Anonymous,1483762935108.jpg,tvvTrxmd4zm9fLqy3jMMRw==,RS,,1484817464 107796049,107810743,2017-01-19 09:18:01,">>107810590 Ever heard of bundling? When you buy cable TV there are a bunch of channels you don't want in the package that you're still forced to pay. That's a typical market strategy from firms holding some form of market power.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817481 107796049,107810786,2017-01-19 09:18:30,">>107810668 you said nothing in your post",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817510 107796049,107810828,2017-01-19 09:18:53,">>107810028 >contract with government the moment you are born Yes, this is the world we live in. It's called civilization. That's pretty much why countries exist. If you don't want this, then there is zero point of being a country at all.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484817533 107796049,107810920,2017-01-19 09:19:50,">>107809129 That's the only thing thing I don't like to hardcore ancoms. Hardcore ancoms are ironic. They are forcing people to be voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1484817590 107796049,107810940,2017-01-19 09:20:14,">>107810028 >>107809995 >>107810028 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7mDJDtW9Ig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7mDJDtW9Ig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7mDJDtW9Ig is this you?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484817614 107796049,107810951,2017-01-19 09:20:18,">>107810786 You dont know anything about anarchy and the philosophy behind it. You desperately cling to this thing called the state because you fear freedom.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484817618 107796049,107810969,2017-01-19 09:20:33,">>107810743 But the government are no private business. They own a monopoly and all means to shut down competition. In a free market, you can voluntarily buy or not buy the services of a business, while in our case, you have to pay for something, even if you don't want it or need it, otherwise you will be - essentially - killed.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484817633 107796049,107810979,2017-01-19 09:20:37,">>107810714 This is what happens in an ancap system as well, where everything is privately owned. Since basic life sustaining goods are private, you will always be paying for them in order to simply exist. Don't pay, and get ostracized or die. The state offers you the same solution.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817637 107796049,107811014,2017-01-19 09:20:56,">>107810920 Communism is global, there can be no commune separate from capitalism",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484817656 107796049,107811036,2017-01-19 09:21:13,">>107810577 You wanna get real crazy? Try a-pvp. It's like meth's bigger brother. SPUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN Just never order more than 3g at a time(or however much you're willing to do in a binge) because it hooks like a cunt. >>107810570",,Anonymous,XdVJceu.jpg,1AZkiup09VnibL+dC1bQLA==,US,,1484817673 107796049,107811043,2017-01-19 09:21:17,">>107810951 you keep on saying nothing you know, simply saying ""That's not true"" or ""You don't know anything"" is not enough",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817677 107796049,107811148,2017-01-19 09:22:30,">>107810979 Nobody forces you. You could go out and catch flies and eat them Nobody will do this, but nobody prevents you from doing so.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484817750 107796049,107811158,2017-01-19 09:22:40,">>107810969 Tell how it is any different in an ancap system.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817760 107796049,107811188,2017-01-19 09:23:00,">>107811043 You said the state owned airspace without justifying it.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484817780 107796049,107811270,2017-01-19 09:23:55,">>107811148 But the flies are owned by somebody... No, you can't.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817835 107796049,107811294,2017-01-19 09:24:12,">>107810569 > either through philosophy where the people wise up and demand freedom Not even Marx believed that (he rebuked those as ""utopian socialists"" and considered then idealistic fools. Yeah, the irony isn't lost in this one). People are stupid, there is no strong force in the world that can change basic things in human nature like greed, short term thinking and general idiocy. Are we in agreement here? > or violent revultion against the state and those who serve it. And there is no way the leaders would give up the power they have, there is no incentive for collectivists Here is a follow up question. It seems based on your answer agree that whoever has the power or even a slight advantage now has no incentive to give it up voluntarily. Are we in agreement that the only path to transition from now to the end goal of your ideology is to forcibly remove (through violence) this power and advantage?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817852 107796049,107811321,2017-01-19 09:24:31,">>107811148 Also, how come you aren't forced to pay when the fucking air you breathe has a price?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817871 107796049,107811337,2017-01-19 09:24:40,"http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2017/01/17/judge-napolitano-gives-trump-more-advice-on-supreme-court-vacancy.html Is Judge NAP dare I say, /ourguy/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484817880 107796049,107811364,2017-01-19 09:24:59,">>107811158 AnCap: ""Gee, I don't think I need Healthcare. I am glad nobody forces me on gunpoint to purchase it."" Statism: ""I don't want to purchase healthcare, but if I don't pay, the government will come to my house and either imprison me or kill me.""",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484817899 107796049,107811397,2017-01-19 09:25:21,">>107811036 haha fiending gives you some crazy times, I remember arresting a comedown by finding a bag of mpa under my bed at 5am like PARTY IS BACK ON GUYS",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484817921 107796049,107811422,2017-01-19 09:25:36,">>107811188 Justify why you own your computer.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484817936 107796049,107811478,2017-01-19 09:26:09,">>107810828 >Yes, this is the world we live in. so no point in striving for the better, no point in changing shit, nice reasoning there, literally what a slave would say in 19th century >>107811364 it's like drawing shit for kids",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1484817969 107796049,107811499,2017-01-19 09:26:19,">>107811364 States just bundle the ""essential services"" package. You either buy all of it or none of it. Hey look, you're still here...",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484817979 107796049,107811547,2017-01-19 09:26:55,">>107811364 So, all you do is to break up bundles. However, if the cable TV did not offer you the shitty channels you don't want, they wouldn't be offering you anything.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484818015 107796049,107811551,2017-01-19 09:26:59,">>107811270 >>107811321 The air and flies don't have owners, and unless the flies are cought by somebody else beforehand, they aren't owned. You can't buy the atmosphere or the sun either. Who the fuck would you buy them from?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484818019 107796049,107811602,2017-01-19 09:27:26,">>107811422 Because I accepted the price of the components the merchant asked for, payed for it with products of my labour, which is a form of private property, and I build it myself. I own it.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484818046 107796049,107811628,2017-01-19 09:27:47,">>107811364 Insurance rates would be too high in ancap society, nobody would be willing to take on the enormous risk involved. ie nobody would be able to afford it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484818067 107796049,107811639,2017-01-19 09:27:55,">>107811547 Still, nobody forces you to buy the shit in AnCap.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484818075 107796049,107811669,2017-01-19 09:28:16,">>107811551 From the state. And now you say some property is common lol",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484818096 107796049,107811676,2017-01-19 09:28:23,">>107811628 >What is competition?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484818103 107796049,107811680,2017-01-19 09:28:26,">>107811639 Nobody's forcing you to live in Germany either.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484818106 107796049,107811708,2017-01-19 09:28:44,">>107811337 I'd fukken die if the Judge got selected to replace Scalia. Holy shit. Just imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLM At minimum, the gun grabbers would be devastated. Utterly and completely. The whole Brady bunch might commit hairy carry.",,Anonymous,1361169423812.jpg,WQHEvPGnCHy+t2fMTB0csQ==,US,,1484818124 107796049,107811712,2017-01-19 09:28:46,">>107808326 lol",,Anonymous,1474089340412.png,b6ctspipJhpo99Zj3PzfBg==,US,,1484818126 107796049,107811750,2017-01-19 09:29:11,">>107811669 What is this state exactly? Where does it come from?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484818151 107796049,107811808,2017-01-19 09:29:45,">>107811669 The state doesn't exist, also, the air is effectivley endless, thus it can't be owned, sice it hasn't a inherent scarcity.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484818185 107796049,107811843,2017-01-19 09:30:06,">>107811602 You're assuming goods have to be produced.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484818206 107796049,107811873,2017-01-19 09:30:24,">>107811478 >change hello obongo Seriously, your ideology is NOT a ""change for the better"". It is truly truly pathetic at nearly all levels. There isn't a single institution that I can think of that wouldn't be utterly destroyed if ancaps got their way. I have zero patience for you fucking idiots too. You're dumber than communists.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484818224 107796049,107811895,2017-01-19 09:30:38,">>107811294 >basic things in human nature like greed, short term thinking and general idiocy. Can't agree with this. If this was true there would be no people in europe where the conditions and winter are harsh so that it requires long term thinking to survive. By removing the need for all this the people have been conditioned into immediate reward thinking. >Are we in agreement that the only path to transition from now to the end goal of your ideology is to forcibly remove (through violence) this power and advantage? From what I can see right now yes, but I could be wrong",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484818238 107796049,107811916,2017-01-19 09:30:50,">>107811628 >no prescriptions >generics competing for price >no gatekeepers to services better believe it'd be cheaper",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484818250 107796049,107811919,2017-01-19 09:30:51,">>107811808 >The state doesn't exist Objectively incorrect. You might be able to claim that it shouldn't exist, but both the concept and the practical impact of ""the state"" exist. If you want proof just try not paying your taxes.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484818251 107796049,107811964,2017-01-19 09:31:24,">>107811843 Well they aren't magically popping into existence are they",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484818284 107796049,107812007,2017-01-19 09:31:45,">>107811676 >what is mathematics?",,Anonymous,9781566701303.jpg,j5JxagbgetXIIEAG/6gh4A==,CA,,1484818305 107796049,107812029,2017-01-19 09:31:54,">>107811639 Pay the breathing fee or I will either fine you, take your valuables, quick you out of the airspace I own, enslave you or kill you. Different levels of gradation depending on the situation and recurrence of the offense.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484818314 107796049,107812120,2017-01-19 09:32:47,">>107811919 the state doesn't exist in Anarcho capitalism. I phrased it that way because the answer I replied to already implied that in the scenario he described, it didn't exist.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484818367 107796049,107812159,2017-01-19 09:33:07,">>107811750 >>107811808 See, this is your fundamental assumption. You say your views are founded on ""reason and evidence"" or whatever but that all hinge on claiming the state does not exist.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484818387 107796049,107812178,2017-01-19 09:33:22,,,Anonymous,1.png,XPdlSj79tGOgulfhiHaAQg==,US,,1484818402 107796049,107812256,2017-01-19 09:34:08,">>107811964 Some are. A good is what provides value. There are things that provide value which don't have to be produced.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484818448 107796049,107812314,2017-01-19 09:34:47,">>107812159 >>107811919 Look at this, I answered how it would look in an ancap society, where the state indeed wouldn't exist. Are you even reading all of my replies, or only those you can rip out of context, so they fit your narritive? >>107811808 Also, my explanation for your stupid air assumption.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484818487 107796049,107812396,2017-01-19 09:35:36,">>107811397 First time a-pvp threw me into the blender of psychosis was scarier than my most difficult trips. It's not ego death. It's just broken. Until you understand it. And then there's the shadow people. Scary fucks until you realize they're just your various memories, dreams, and sense of imagination, good and bad, talking to you. Psychosis is dangerous for most, but if you can stay mentally strong enough to handle it, it becomes a very unique and enlightening state in its own way. For example, I went psychotic on a-php during the day of the DNC convention last summer, and saw Hillary Clinton literally gain a demonic form on my TV screen. And anyone else on the screen that was a psychopath also gained this form. Their hateful psychopathy became so clear to see in my state of partial insanity. It's no wonder people who live insane all the time can't cope, seeing shit like that ALL the time. I know their pain now however. And that's what's been best, gaining empathy for that insane homeless dude begging for change. That state of mind is just... WHOA. Anyway.",,Anonymous,1427547036582.gif,Zcw4vY/S686JvVkYC8viSA==,US,,1484818536 107796049,107812416,2017-01-19 09:35:46,">>107804344 but it's not a journey all ancaps are moral, but not all ancaps are as based to design their societies",,Anonymous,15304301_1186965291371788_3912368800739376245_o.png,fkOiVW3aR6GavGK/h/NPUQ==,ES,,1484818546 107796049,107812418,2017-01-19 09:35:48,">>107811873 >zero patience >arguing all this time >I can't think of... >hurr durr your an idiot first of all, who is forcing you to be here anyway, go wherever the fuck you want and second, learn that calling someone pathetic is how middle school kids argue, so next time you contribute something of value other then slave mentality that you hold so dear",,Anonymous,1463629332114.jpg,gFG/PHtgKv33E86uqVKc9w==,RS,,1484818548 107796049,107812446,2017-01-19 09:36:04,">>107804878 But if a company has a complete monopoly on a resource or product, let's say steel, there can be no ""new businesses"" since it is all ownad by the company. Once a total monopoly is established, it stays there. How do we prevent that from potentially happening without some form of regulations?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484818564 107796049,107812501,2017-01-19 09:36:34,">>107812159 Just answer the question or justify the existence of a group of people who somehow have the right the rule other people, and take their rights away. If I dont have the right to take other people rights, or violate them, how can I abdicate that right to other people who call themselves the state?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484818594 107796049,107812533,2017-01-19 09:36:59,">>107811014 If you are referring to authoritarian communism, I would agree with you. This isn't the case. Real ancoms (hippies) are voluntarily giving their property to the commune, also their council or whatever you call is what you can describe as direct democracy. They are also free to leave their commune if they want to. >>107810263 >>107810570 >>107810577 Go to lainchan. That place is a little bit more alive than weedchong.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1484818619 107796049,107812585,2017-01-19 09:37:40,">>107812314 I am reading them. You simply say ""but you wouldn't be forced!!!"", and I am saying that you would. For instance, you said air can't be owned due it lacking scarcity. That's what happens with intellectual property once it has been produced, for instance. Still, it is owned. Whatever justification you provide for this ownership is immediately ignoring the fact it is not scarce, so that can't be the reason.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484818660 107796049,107812591,2017-01-19 09:37:41,">>107812396 I remember shadow people from my various DPH and datura binges and the voices in the walls shits fucked up",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484818661 107796049,107812620,2017-01-19 09:37:52,">>107812007 This can easily be solved by looking at the golden age of fraternalism and mutual benefit societies. This was in the era before welfare. Lodges dues paid for death benefits, health insurance, health care from a physician paid by the lodge on contract, and other forms of assistance and insurance. They also provided moral codes for their members something that is lacking today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484818672 107796049,107812709,2017-01-19 09:38:45,">>107812591 >datura Why would anyone subject themselves to that? I know curiosity can be overwhelming soemtiems but that shit is just fucked",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484818725 107796049,107812715,2017-01-19 09:38:49,">>107812314 The point is that all of the actions of the state can be justified in a contractual framework. All the actions of the state can be justified in any rational framework, because the state is so far the best solution to the problem of human suffering.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484818729 107796049,107812755,2017-01-19 09:39:18,">>107796049 This violates my 4chan NAP. Prepare to get McNuked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484818758 107796049,107812773,2017-01-19 09:39:31,">>107812446 You can't copyright steel. Like we established before, without the copyright, steel producers are able to compete, as the creation of steel would be intellectual property, which can't be copyrighted. Of course, if you are able to copyright steel, your scenario would be the case, but that would border on plain stupidity. That's why most AnCaps advocate for the first way.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484818771 107796049,107812776,2017-01-19 09:39:33,">>107812501 The same way you have the right to at least partially control the behavior of people inside your own house, otherwise you kick them out, using force if necessary.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484818773 107796049,107812778,2017-01-19 09:39:38,">>107812418 You ARE a fucking idiot. And i'm here because someone needs to call you out on your bullshit because there's a chance that young impressionable anons might come in here and start reading your shit, and if no one is explaining how you're a fucking dumbass, then they might end up believing in it. So here to protect them. Rid this board of your cancer. Go to /leftypol/, your views are MUCH closer to what they believe than what we believe.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484818778 107796049,107812889,2017-01-19 09:40:54,">>107812709 two reasons 1. curiosity 2. it acts as a kind of 'reset button' when i'm feeling saturated like after the trip is over, everything feels fresh again since you've had such a break with the normal world - like coming out of jail would feel I imagine",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484818854 107796049,107812938,2017-01-19 09:41:28,">>107812778 >what we believe. >we",,Anonymous,1426149121492.gif,o29MXJN0IPoEssSySPIxaw==,SE,,1484818888 107796049,107812977,2017-01-19 09:41:54,">>107812585 Yet, the way of producing said object isn't owned, allowing others to improve the way the product is made. There are limitless possibilities of actually creating the product, meaning it has no scarcity.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484818914 107796049,107813016,2017-01-19 09:42:27,">>107812446 In that case a rival company can produce a substitute product. How do define a monopoly? Do they control all market share in a single country? Because then cheaper product can be imported. Only government regulations create monopolies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484818947 107796049,107813039,2017-01-19 09:42:45,"Nice thread, OP.",,Anonymous,1265816298038.jpg,Q2CH6YVuY+uZAWd17WvrDQ==,FR,,1484818965 107796049,107813043,2017-01-19 09:42:47,">>107812591 The ""distant muffled music playing over and over"" creeps me out more personally. I once thought that shit was coming out of my unplugged desktop speakers by picking up on some kinda waves being given off by my PC. Funny now that I remember it but at the time that shit was annoying. Went in to take a shower and get ready to come down, and the sound of the shower water sounded like the same music. Insanity is god damn hilarious and horrifying. THEN there's the demon roars... HOLY SHIT They mesh with the distant music... I truly and fully understand Metallica's Master of Puppets.",,Anonymous,lawdy lawd.jpg,9+XYvpzodbVXIBgnixmMZQ==,US,,1484818967 107796049,107813044,2017-01-19 09:42:47,>>107796093,,Anonymous,1484463479158.jpg,DqT2uqciI/0RKUHe2a99WQ==,US,,1484818967 107796049,107813113,2017-01-19 09:43:29,">>107812778 >violent overbearing state >free speech suppression >social freedom repression >state interfering in the market there's a reason your silly ideology has 'statism' in the name this isn't your safe space, and you seem afraid of the marketplace of ideals - whats the matter, not secure in yours?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484819009 107796049,107813134,2017-01-19 09:43:39,">>107812778 >>107812938 >we socialism is leaking again there, nice to know that you we chosen to speak for us all here anyway, do your thing and I'll do mine, just be sure to bring your biggest guns leaf cause I will",,Anonymous,1464686928422.jpg,EBjkMp1b9LxSlrG8ux9f7w==,RS,,1484819019 107796049,107813142,2017-01-19 09:43:44,">>107812938 You know precisely what i'm alluding to. /pol/ is a natsoc board and always will be. Take this shit to /leftypol/ but I can't promise they won't also think you're all fucking defective.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484819024 107796049,107813163,2017-01-19 09:43:56,">>107812977 >What is pollution",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819036 107796049,107813174,2017-01-19 09:44:03,">>107812778 >The collectivist accuses others of being close to /lefty 8gag/",,Anonymous,1482238356853.jpg,ApKB9UrKAePFGANynUHEHA==,DE,,1484819043 107796049,107813229,2017-01-19 09:44:38,">>107796049 On it famalam senpai Also for thread tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9K0B8axdvU",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1484819078 107796049,107813231,2017-01-19 09:44:38,">>107812776 Ah so you accept that the state has ownership over you, and you dont see this as slavery and coercion and violence, all immoral acts?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484819078 107796049,107813234,2017-01-19 09:44:39,">>107813113 socialism even, not statism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484819079 107796049,107813269,2017-01-19 09:45:02,">>107813016 Well usually a monopoly in the tech field can be created by owning the sole means for a technology (usually a newly developed programming language that that company owns the rights to) and then creating market dependency through incentivizing related systems to work only with that technology Market dependency can be created without regulation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819102 107796049,107813329,2017-01-19 09:45:41,">>107813142 son how new are you /pol/ is traditionally libertarian, just cause some stormweenies decided to set up camp doesn't mean we're going anywhere",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484819141 107796049,107813346,2017-01-19 09:45:51,">>107813174 What liberals and libertarians have in common is they both believe in letting morons and degenerates do as they please.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819151 107796049,107813462,2017-01-19 09:47:12,">>107813142 >You know precisely what i'm alluding to I know you need a collective to belong too but the zoo is more fitting than an imageboard for you. >/pol/ is a natsoc board and always will be. it hasn't and it isn't >Take this shit to /leftypol/ but I can't promise they won't also think you're all fucking defective. natsoc is leftist cancer but thanks for playing",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484819232 107796049,107813475,2017-01-19 09:47:17,">>107813231 What the fuck does ""having ownership over oneself"" mean? You are not somehow separate of yourself. You're you. The concept of ownership in this case makes no sense. If you simply mean the state has some control over some of your actions, then of course. The same way your family or friends have some control over your actions. Living in society will always mean you're constrained in some way.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819237 107796049,107813481,2017-01-19 09:47:24,">>107813113 >>107813134 You morons are beyond saving. If an ancap gained power and began transforming, you would NEVER in 10 million years get anything close to what you have in your minds, and the difference between what you have in your head and what actually happens would be incomparably greater than the difference between what communists had in their heads and what they actually achieved in reality.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484819244 107796049,107813529,2017-01-19 09:47:54,">>107813142 >always will be natsoc slave confirmed, parasite and just see how much it isn't and how much you can't do shit about it, it was libertarian before you cancer showed up >>107813329 he's a fucking moron",,Anonymous,1463690938360.jpg,B9lrqvs4Tu87I/oOxB0KLw==,RS,,1484819274 107796049,107813542,2017-01-19 09:48:03,">>107813329 I honestly have no idea how one can not become anarchistic by browsing pol. You see all the evil governments of all forms inflict, but somehow you can still think your ideal of statism will work",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484819283 107796049,107813543,2017-01-19 09:48:04,">>107812778 >>107812778 >oung impressionable anons might come in here and start reading your shit, and if no one is explaining how you're a fucking dumbass, then they might end up believing in it. So here to protect them man I am sure glad you were not around when I learned about bitcoin, which by the way after it passed 100 dollars per it continues to prove ancaps so correct its not even funny",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819284 107796049,107813569,2017-01-19 09:48:28,ayn rand a shit,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484819308 107796049,107813596,2017-01-19 09:48:45,">>107813269 Of course but the incentive to compete will still in turn allow rival companies to develop a substitute. There was a libertarian author that wrote a book about doing away with the patent system because it slowed ideas and economic growth. I cannot remember the damn author or book right now. Early onset dementia I guess.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819325 107796049,107813615,2017-01-19 09:48:58,"How would libertarianism account for the degradation of morals? How would libertarianism account for company monopolies which would inevitably form? How would libertarianism stop Jews from getting into these communities and taking over the nation though the use of Media and large scale corporate ""Empires""? How would libertarianism work if there was a foreign invasion with much better co operation between the invading armies? How would libertarianism deal with losing a lot of your nationalistic pride simply for less taxes? Who funds museums and national monuments/gardens? How would libertarianism ensure that cripples or mentally impaired people don't starve to death if their parents don't want them? What about the Elderly? Wow would libertarianism ensure the future of the country and it's children is it's main priority? How would libertarianism deal with foreign elements eg. lone wolf Muslims committing terrorist attacks How would libertarianism deal with Muslim communities eventually taking over large parts of the country and turning the country into Afghanistan 2.0? I'll respect you if you just say ""it's my freedom and don't you fucking touch it bitch, I don't care if 99% of my nation are gay aid niggers and my race and ancestry die out as long as I got my freedom""",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484819338 107796049,107813616,2017-01-19 09:48:59,">>107813481 Ancaps are the true dictators because they want pure freedom.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819339 107796049,107813638,2017-01-19 09:49:14,">>107813346 As long as it isn't harming me, why the fuck should I care? Why would I want a huge government, that tells people what to do, only so that some fags don't suck each other off? If there is no government, there is nobody that can indoctrinate children into thinking it is great to be gay or trans anyway, so it is solely my own responsibility to protect my children from bad influences.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484819354 107796049,107813650,2017-01-19 09:49:22,">>107812773 I wasn't speak of copyright, I was speaking of a single company having sole access to all the world's steel. In that case, no one would be able to produce it except for said company, and anyone that want to make steel products would need to lick the asses of said company. Quality would go down and prices up since the company knows that people have no choice but to buy from them and only them. The free market for steel would then cease to exist. The point still stands, how do you keep such a company from growing that large and powerful without some form of regulations?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1484819362 107796049,107813696,2017-01-19 09:49:47,">>107813346 funny how you silly-billies never explain what this 'degeneracy' meme is because it's just a buzzword meaning 'stop doing what I don't like' - you're SJWS",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484819387 107796049,107813725,2017-01-19 09:50:09,">>107813569 Frederic Bastiat and Thomas Sowell are not however.",,Anonymous,GOD BLESS.jpg,RS+MRHvQsIjPGJEAyF9LSg==,US,,1484819409 107796049,107813745,2017-01-19 09:50:22,">>107813638 What the fuck is harm? I want to see your carefully made study proving their actions have no effect on you, accounting for general equilibrium effects.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819422 107796049,107813760,2017-01-19 09:50:29,">>107813650 Prices going up would make people seek for cheaper substitutes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819429 107796049,107813764,2017-01-19 09:50:33,">>107813543 >btc >anything to do with ancap explain this idiotic logic",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484819433 107796049,107813819,2017-01-19 09:51:09,">>107813475 >The same way your family or friends have some control over your actions. Not really. They influence your actions, the state compels them at gunpoint.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819469 107796049,107813831,2017-01-19 09:51:15,"CApitalism has nothing to do with racism. It is the best system, and the only moral one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDIMVV33E8E&t=1388s Yaron Brook is stunningly good at covering this.",,Anonymous,15194409_1172815406120110_7491866488115063312_o.png,RR8MdLCnh3O4CWyTE5kgog==,US,,1484819475 107796049,107813876,2017-01-19 09:51:40,">>107813725 get rid of that shoulder thing, it looks like it goes up",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484819500 107796049,107813878,2017-01-19 09:51:41,">>107813638 Also: >If there is no government, there is nobody that can indoctrinate children into thinking it is great to be gay or trans anyway what is the mass media",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819501 107796049,107813916,2017-01-19 09:52:05,">>107799287 Also thinking about this lately. My point of view: The artist does not physically lose anything. There is no damaged party. The artist just feels that he is entitled to receive money from everyone that consumes his art. But this is a wrong assumption. If you use the internet to distribute your content you willingly ""take the risk"" that someone copies your content. If you don't want to take that risk you can limit the distribution of your content to concerts or cinemas. Same story for patents. If your idea is so simple that other people can copy it with some effort or you are not willing to pay the price for protection of your idea from others you are not entitled to receive extra money. Same thing for resources in general. Just because you happen to live on an oil field you are not entitled to all the oil below your ass. If you don't want to share it, pay to protect it! Basically property is what others are willing to grant to you.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484819525 107796049,107813925,2017-01-19 09:52:13,">>107813543 wait man, he's little stormfag socialist brain just got a bit confused that's all remember that he's a parasite, he doesn't know better >>107813764 lol, you just don't know shit do you socialist scum? you're one google away from truth yet here you are stupid and uninformed as one can be",,Anonymous,1464733635861.jpg,fK1BhHugJR0jwk/9acIY7A==,RS,,1484819533 107796049,107813934,2017-01-19 09:52:19,">>107813819 They don't. They put in jail.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819539 107796049,107813957,2017-01-19 09:52:36,">>107813934 put you*",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819556 107796049,107814012,2017-01-19 09:53:13,">>107813925 >simple question >extreme dodge hmmm",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484819593 107796049,107814013,2017-01-19 09:53:12,">>107813638 So you'd love to live in a society that allows rampant racemixing, the dissolution of morals, and the destruction of culture? As long as you don't have to pay your taxes, your fine with looking out your window at a third world shithole full of negro-halfbreeds shooting and raping each other.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819592 107796049,107814056,2017-01-19 09:53:39,">>107813745 How the fuck do two gay man fucking each other in private harm me? If there isn't a government pushing an agenda regarding some lgbt shit, I have no problem with that. >>107813878 And as I said, if there are no mandatory government indoctrination camps (schools), I am the only one that has full influence over my child. If I don't allow my child to watch TV, how the fuck should the Media affect it?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484819619 107796049,107814061,2017-01-19 09:53:41,">>107813831 Capitalism has to do with racism because people are naturally racist and capitalism does not give a fuck about the moral content of what it does.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819621 107796049,107814098,2017-01-19 09:54:02,Holy shit I have never realized statist can be this retarded. Just read some fucking literature instead of asking solutions on every fucking detail.,,Anonymous,statism.jpg,r/N6C9A6YoYXeTFn2C++WA==,NL,,1484819642 107796049,107814190,2017-01-19 09:55:08,">>107814012 >others will provide shit for me instead of me doing it parasite, it's leaking out every time you speak, a social parasite",,Anonymous,1464592763489.jpg,6tX1GNQydtLIythUxXmdeQ==,RS,,1484819708 107796049,107814203,2017-01-19 09:55:16,">>107814056 >How the fuck do two gay man fucking each other in private harm me? If there isn't a government pushing an agenda regarding some lgbt shit, I have no problem with that. what are general equilibrium effects >If I don't allow my child to watch TV, how the fuck should the Media affect it? Your kid has no friends and lives in your homemade prison? He's bound to meet people who don't think like you. If those are indoctrinated, you're fucked.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819716 107796049,107814229,2017-01-19 09:55:37,,,Anonymous,2.png,BCTxbk2uKXsIC7dnt5E16Q==,US,,1484819737 107796049,107814244,2017-01-19 09:55:48,">>107813615 >morals are people's personal business >no crony capitalism >le jews meme >pyrrhic victory due to proliferation of military grade weapons >patrons >social Darwinism - justify your existence >children are parent's responsibility >by not responding by restricting freedom >no welfare incentive",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484819748 107796049,107814265,2017-01-19 09:55:57,">>107814098 >READ THE PROPAGANDA AND CONVERY GOY! How about no.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819757 107796049,107814276,2017-01-19 09:56:02,">>107814013 I would seek like minded people and form a community with them - basically a sovereign enclave. That's Hoppe libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484819762 107796049,107814302,2017-01-19 09:56:18,">>107811895 Short term thinking is what kept Europeans alive. > 12 people in the surrounding area > food and shelter in place for 4 > 12 could try to build a better shelter or ration the food > take available food and shelter for wife and two kids, kill the other 8 or let them die on the outside Now, as we are in agreement that: > nothing short of a violent uprising could persuade those currently holding the power to clear the path to the establishment of your ideology and > human nature makes it impossible for a philosophical change in mindset to lead people naturally to the outcome you desire Who is doing the violent uprise and toppling the current power structure? Some kind of benevolent and ideologically pure leadership? Assuming they succeed, in the end they are left holding the power and advantage themselves. How do we ensure they give it back and establish your ideological end goal? Honestly, I don't think you guys thought that far at all. Your ideology from where I stand is either intellectual masturbation without any concern for practicality at best or ""seize the means of production, centralize the power and when the old structure is topple down establish a classless society with fairness and happiness for all"" at worst. What's the flaw in my reasoning? Notice I'm not questioning the applicability or the validity of your ideology. It is just that you guys have no path to achieve it , making it ideological drivel and bullshit",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819778 107796049,107814334,2017-01-19 09:56:38,">>107814098 >mfw he now knows what it's like to be the communist in a communism thread Too many people have opinions on things they know nothing about.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484819798 107796049,107814344,2017-01-19 09:56:45,">>107813269 http://store.mises.org/Against-Intellectual-Monopoly-P552.aspx",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819805 107796049,107814384,2017-01-19 09:57:07,">>107813725 what's a good place to start with sowell?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484819827 107796049,107814387,2017-01-19 09:57:08,">>107814098 You know, authors present their books in short summaries to convince people to read them. You, on the other hand, are doing a terrible job.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819828 107796049,107814425,2017-01-19 09:57:38,">>107814344 Thanks for the rec, anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819858 107796049,107814439,2017-01-19 09:57:42,">>107814384 Basic Economics is a must",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819862 107796049,107814475,2017-01-19 09:58:04,">>107814265 not an argument >>107814334 Except in this case there are very clear moral and philosophical principles based on truth and natural law",,Anonymous,muhpropaganda.jpg,uhovU/0WcVNT7ErsObzeSw==,NL,,1484819884 107796049,107814486,2017-01-19 09:58:11,">>107814203 Parents play a huge role in the development of a child. What they say is for the most time true for the child. It's fucking easy to raise a kid the way you want.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484819891 107796049,107814577,2017-01-19 09:59:12,">>107814384 >>107814439 Sowell is econ 101 tier. It's good for you to get used to think about the different issues and to the type of reasoning but don't take any of the conclusions seriously. He oversimplifies everything.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819952 107796049,107814588,2017-01-19 09:59:19,">>107814276 And whats to stop a member of your community from getting greedy and trying to import shitskin labor who will work for less, or manufacturing cheap houses and selling them to hopeful muds who want a piece of your propserity? Whats to stop someone from selling drugs, pornography and other harmful and degenerate products? The good sense of the community?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819959 107796049,107814627,2017-01-19 09:59:43,">>107814387 You still havent justified how a small group of people can have control over other people",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484819983 107796049,107814631,2017-01-19 09:59:46,">>107814384 Basic Economics man. It sets the tone for the rest of his work. His work on intellectualism is the best he does though. He eviscerates the modern left.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819986 107796049,107814643,2017-01-19 09:59:54,">>107814203 >doesn't explain how other people's sex life is any of my business",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484819994 107796049,107814644,2017-01-19 09:59:54,">>107807549 Saved",,Anonymous,Molyneux approves.jpg,kONyjPXSrMLDeMGpgmIBCA==,FR,,1484819994 107796049,107814647,2017-01-19 09:59:57,">>107814425 http://www.micheleboldrin.com/research/aim.html Here it is for free on the author's site.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484819997 107796049,107814648,2017-01-19 09:59:57,">>107814486 Parents are the single most important influence until they reach puberty only. From that point onward, the peers take their spot.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484819997 107796049,107814696,2017-01-19 10:00:24,">>107814627 I did. Read again.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820024 107796049,107814881,2017-01-19 10:02:28,">>107814439 >>107814577 >>107814631 thanks guys, will make a start after I finish my current 'to be read' pile",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484820148 107796049,107814903,2017-01-19 10:02:42,">>107814588 When I don't see any benefit in the community, I leave. Also, I'd probably do that too. Nobody can force you to treat them equally. If they want to come, you have the right to discriminate them and physically remove them at any given point. Also >degeneracy meme I myself would be fucking using drugs. Why the fuck should anybody be able to tell me whether I am allowed to harm myself or not.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484820162 107796049,107814943,2017-01-19 10:03:09,">>107814643 Degeneracy destroys the moral fabric of society, leading people to turtle themselves up as that's the only way to tolerate what blatantly violates natural law. This leads to a slow collapse of society. It's not one deviant act per se that is the problem but the continuous succession of deviant acts; the questioning of natural law for the simple sake of pure freedom.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820189 107796049,107814961,2017-01-19 10:03:23,">>107814696 No, you really didn't",,Anonymous,memes.jpg,aEjyt0Ws7r/FZDLyNvuJ0g==,NL,,1484820203 107796049,107814979,2017-01-19 10:03:31,">>107814588 >drugs, pornography they're not forcing me to take them are they? self ownership decrees that people own their body and any harm as a result of their actions",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484820211 107796049,107814981,2017-01-19 10:03:34,">>107814475 >Except in this case there are very clear moral and philosophical principles based on truth and natural law Doesn't change anything. Every philosophy has compelling reasoning behind it, that's why people believe in them in the first place. Meh. Clearly you're too steeped in pure ideology to see the parallels of your complaint. You hate it when people criticise retarded shit that's been answered 500 times before in your ideology and wish they'd just read a fucking book, but can't possibly imagine that the same situation might occur on the other end of the ideological spectrum.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484820214 107796049,107815039,2017-01-19 10:04:12,">>107814961 >I didn't like it, therefore he didn't say anything",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820252 107796049,107815054,2017-01-19 10:04:20,">>107814648 So? This is the case in every fucking society.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484820260 107796049,107815128,2017-01-19 10:05:05,">>107813615 > How would libertarianism account for the degradation of morals? Most of the moral violations are agressions. Then, this would go to the 'gays and disturbed people' section. In this case, you can join people like-minded who will phisically remove undesired individuals from a certain land. You can have private laws. > How would libertarianism account for company monopolies which would inevitably form? Most monopolies are caused by the state. A private monopoly must be the most efficient of the market to eliminate all the competitors, and if it becomes viable to another company be born in the same market, then it isn't a monopoly. Also, can you give an example of private monopoly? > How would libertarianism stop Jews from getting into these communities and taking over the nation though the use of Media and large scale corporate ""Empires""? Create a strictly christian community with a private law stating that jews are not allowed. > How would libertarianism work if there was a foreign invasion with much better co operation between the invading armies? An anarcho-capitalist society likely has more capital and thus, more fire power. Current technology makes the invader position very difficult. If a population want to resist and is well prepared, then, almost nothing can stop it. > How would libertarianism deal with losing a lot of your nationalistic pride simply for less taxes? Who funds museums and national monuments/gardens? Losing nationalistic pride to gain liberty. I don't see the problem. You can love your people and your liberty. > How would libertarianism ensure that cripples or mentally impaired people don't starve to death if their parents don't want them? What about the Elderly? If a family don't take care of the elderly, it is a flaw. Older people tend to have more savings, savings are common and desired in a good economy without today's nonsense. Needy people could ask for the help of a charity instituition. Comment too long.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484820305 107796049,107815237,2017-01-19 10:06:00,">>107814943 'moral fabric of society' is collectivist claptrap I'm not particularly enticed by many drugs or fetishes but if people around me want to do them then whatever, i'm not going to get all triggered and throw a hissy fit maybe a bit of emotional maturity is necessary here",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484820360 107796049,107815303,2017-01-19 10:06:35,">>107814903 >Why the fuck should anybody be able to tell me whether I am allowed to harm myself or not. Because you're part of a whole. If a screw wheel in a clockwork fails, the clock is broken.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820395 107796049,107815360,2017-01-19 10:07:16,">>107814981 Valid point. But this is the final truth I know. I have explored many ideologies, from communism to natsoc, but none resonate as much as anarchism. >>107815039 You used that 'argument' twice against me >>107811043 >>107810786",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484820436 107796049,107815370,2017-01-19 10:07:20,">>107815054 Your kids will be indoctrinated through other kids. This is why degeneracy in the mass media is dangerous, as you don't control other kids.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820440 107796049,107815379,2017-01-19 10:07:28,">>107814244 >morals are people's personal business Okay fine you said it you don't care if a girl shoves a steaming hot poker into her unborn baby as long as it's not human yet she can also roll around in shit and worship Satan. Thanks for you honesty for not making up some bullshit >no crony capitalism Corporations would form and buy out other ones. Where is your argument? >le jews meme Putting le in front of something totally destroys the argument. le hitler there hitler doesn't exist now >pyrrhic victory due to proliferation of military grade weapons What about a slow push or if their aim is to say grab only a few states? Your rag tag army would fail. We're not talking about beating up exausted redcoats with muskets anymore >patrons Patrons cannot support all national, monuments and museums etc. there goes a lot of your culture and tourist attractions >social Darwinism - justify your existence I'm okay with letting the elderly guy die of starvation like an African because his house burnt down and he lost all his savings, but atleast he had freedom to starve or burn. I don't care about orphans they can starve their parents shouldn't of got shot >children are parent's responsibility Fair enough but children are the future of your nation and should be your goal >by not responding by restricting freedom Fair enough but what happens when these Muslims implement Shria law and it's say 80% Muslim to 20% non Muslim So it all comes down to muh freedom, muh no morals gay homo drug pedo sex for all, muh no nationalistic pride and calling everyone a commie who donsn't want young homeless children to freeze on the street. Yes?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484820448 107796049,107815380,2017-01-19 10:07:28,">>107815237 This. All these statist arguments basically boil down to: ""You shouldn't be allowed to do things I don't like and that's why we need a big government to fuck us up our asses.""",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484820448 107796049,107815456,2017-01-19 10:08:11,">>107815237 It's not about moral outrage but about sustaining society itself. You can't have loose ends.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820491 107796049,107815472,2017-01-19 10:08:18,">>107814903 Except you don't have the right to remove them except when they are on your private property, when they are on the property of others or on neutral ground, you can't do shit. You can discriminate all you like, but the shitskin plague won't go anywhere. And as for leaving, well whats to stop the cycle from repeating itself? And while you obviously care nothing for your moral or spiritual wellbeing, what about the people around you. As well as drugs, why not sell them unhealthy and falsified products. After all, not everyone is well educated in the fields of chemistry and nutrition and its damned easy to sell people placebos, or poison. But hey, survival of the fittest (scam artist) ammirite?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484820498 107796049,107815483,2017-01-19 10:08:28,">>107815303 the whole point of our ideology is dismantling collectivism without welfare, socialised medicine etc etc the individual is no longer able to become a parasite if he fails",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484820508 107796049,107815510,2017-01-19 10:08:45,">>107815360 It's not an argument but merely stating a fact.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820525 107796049,107815528,2017-01-19 10:08:58,">>107813142 We are at least 30% of this board and we will always be here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484820538 107796049,107815598,2017-01-19 10:09:37,">>107815303 Why the fuck would I care about the ""clock"". Once I am gone, all this shit doesn't bother me anymore. >>107815370 So? Once they are old enough to think for themselves it will show if I raised them properly and they can truly think for themselves or if not. Well, if the latter is the case, what should I do? Beat them into a pulp?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484820577 107796049,107815617,2017-01-19 10:09:51,">>107814943 Here's what you don't get though. If you do shit that's contrary to natural law, you're gonna pay for it in some way. Yang always follows Yin. This is what Libertarians realize. It's like my above post >>107806657 I've done this. When we did it we knew the dangers and made sure to watch ourselves. You don't go hog wild. You temper your fun. Have a good time, and take your safety seriously. Or die.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484820591 107796049,107815633,2017-01-19 10:10:02,">>107815472 Once again, read Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484820602 107796049,107815659,2017-01-19 10:10:17,">>107813615 >Wow would libertarianism ensure the future of the country and it's children is it's main priority? Savings are higher. Families can thrive more. Who the fuck don't want to take care of their own children? > How would libertarianism deal with foreign elements eg. lone wolf Muslims committing terrorist attacks 1. Don't allow them in. 2. They can only visit without guns and bombs and they aren't allowed to buy it. 3. These attacks happen more in countries were the people have no bullets to stop them. It would be incredibly dangerous to attack such population. > How would libertarianism deal with Muslim communities eventually taking over large parts of the country and turning the country into Afghanistan 2.0? Guns and bullets. Alreary happened to us and the solution worked well.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484820617 107796049,107815661,2017-01-19 10:10:18,">>107815483 >the individual is no longer able to become a parasite if he fails what does this have to do with anything? Do you think I advocate sustaining what is failing?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820618 107796049,107815747,2017-01-19 10:11:14,">>107815598 >Why the fuck would I care about the ""clock"". Once I am gone, all this shit doesn't bother me anymore. If the whole dies, so does the part. No cell in a body can live if its hosting body is dead.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820674 107796049,107815748,2017-01-19 10:11:14,">>107815472 And on the second point, I don't care about people around me (at least people that aren't close to me). There is a reason I am not a collectivist.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484820674 107796049,107815791,2017-01-19 10:11:39,">>107815379 >muslims, slow invasion try holding a province where the native population has access to high grade weaponry and a working knowledge of the area; the us army failed in Vietnam against farmers armed with far inferior weapons same with your muslims, how will they enforce sharia law on a suitably armed populace? there's a reason the govt restricts access to any serious armaments - they know their oppression would swiftly come to a halt",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484820699 107796049,107815814,2017-01-19 10:11:51,">>107815598 >if I raised them properly and they can truly think for themselves or if not. If you have kids, you are in for a surprise.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820711 107796049,107815881,2017-01-19 10:12:30,">>107815379 also why are those homeless children on the street any of my business? why should people be able to breed negative externalities and burden me with them?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484820750 107796049,107815929,2017-01-19 10:13:00,">>107815814 >me ever having kids This was a highly hypothetical discussion I was having with you, m8.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484820780 107796049,107815996,2017-01-19 10:13:38,">>107815617 >If you do shit that's contrary to natural law, you're gonna pay for it in some way. The effects are not local but global, especially if everybody's doing it. It's like voting. A vote is meaningless but all the votes combined obviously change the final outcome. The negative effect of local degeneracy on the whole of society is something you have no right to partake in.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484820818 107796049,107816004,2017-01-19 10:13:41,">>107815456 you can if you disregard enforced equality of outcome - social Darwinism will then naturally privilege successful strategies",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484820821 107796049,107816104,2017-01-19 10:14:38,">>107815128 >An anarcho-capitalist society likely has more capital and thus, more fire power. Current technology makes the invader position very difficult. If a population want to resist and is well prepared, then, almost nothing can stop it. Even assuming that you do have more capital, theres no economic incentive to maintain a modern modern army in peace time, and more importantly a modern airforce. Any modern aircraft requires hours and hours of practice to maintain combat readiness and requires regular and expensive maintenence. You can't just keep an F-35 in a hanger for three years then gas it up and expect it to work perfectly and be flown correctly. In an ancap society, who the fuck is going to foot the bill to buy, train and maintain a modern military in peace time? Most every private individual will opt out if they see no immediate threat and invest their money elsewhere.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484820878 107796049,107816135,2017-01-19 10:14:59,">>107815472 feel free to go around selling fraudulent products if you like, just don't expect many repeat customers",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484820899 107796049,107816149,2017-01-19 10:15:09,">>107816004 Nobody is talking about equality of outcome here. Stop thinking in black and white.",,Anonymous,1465182211080.png,B4DtJi7eVHpflAp+SgPn4w==,PT,,1484820909 107796049,107816249,2017-01-19 10:16:13,">>107815881 Just say it is this what it all comes down to? Muh freedom, muh no morals gay homo drug pedo sex for all who want it, muh no museums and national monuments and making sure to call everyone a commie who doesn't want young homeless children to freeze on the street because their not your concern. Yes? or No?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484820973 107796049,107816263,2017-01-19 10:16:20,">>107815661 so what exactly is the issue? person x gets hooked on heroin and starves to death person y continues his life not seeing the issue?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484820980 107796049,107816356,2017-01-19 10:17:16,">>107816135 Thats assuming they detect the fraud. Thats a big if, especially if you're subtle and your customers aren't chemists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484821036 107796049,107816400,2017-01-19 10:17:41,">>107816263 >It is better to let someone die than to curb that person into a decent citizen",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484821061 107796049,107816417,2017-01-19 10:17:51,">>107816149 then stop talking in riddles and explain exactly how your collectivist moralism is necessary for individuals",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484821071 107796049,107816489,2017-01-19 10:18:37,">>107816249 Sure, whatever. That's a pretty terrible way of summing up our rhetoric but our goal here isn't to persuade you Enjoy your liberal government, just keep in mind there's a reason liberals are always aggravated over social issues and it wont get better",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484821117 107796049,107816508,2017-01-19 10:18:48,">>107816249 with the exception of peadophilia and privately funded monuments and parks then sure",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484821128 107796049,107816513,2017-01-19 10:18:53,">>107816417 I already said it. It's necessary to sustain society. Nothing is worse than self-destruction. And I'm not talking in riddles, m8.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484821133 107796049,107816546,2017-01-19 10:19:10,,,Anonymous,You_Doodle_2016-12-08T18_44_57Z.jpg,A5Cok2LLBxlkNUAYNomXDw==,US,,1484821150 107796049,107816565,2017-01-19 10:19:20,">>107816400 That curbing requires money. And if nobody has any interest in using money to do that, yes, it is better to let him die rather than steal money from others to pay for his ass.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484821160 107796049,107816598,2017-01-19 10:19:39,">>107816400 >it's not my business unless I choose to make it my business define 'better', better for who?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484821179 107796049,107816641,2017-01-19 10:19:59,">>107816513 Why would society be impossible without the State?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484821199 107796049,107816687,2017-01-19 10:20:29,">>107816565 You don't steal from anyone. You own the country, people living in it have to accept what you want or leave. Shaping degenerates into decent citizens is part of the bundle",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484821229 107796049,107816703,2017-01-19 10:20:37,">>107816513 it's not necessary for free trade or self defense, so which aspects is it necessary for and how are those aspects necessary",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484821237 107796049,107816758,2017-01-19 10:21:10,">>107816104 Put simply, everyone has an economic incentive to defende their land and the attacker will likely get a piece of land with furious people to dominate. This is not a place in which you wanna rule. It's like trying to rule the Irish. I didn't read much about this specific question, but I don't see it happening in a world with nukes.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484821270 107796049,107816779,2017-01-19 10:21:21,">>107816598 For the whole, that is, everyone.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484821281 107796049,107816824,2017-01-19 10:21:43,">>107816641 Because man is a political animal. Society is the state and the state is society.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484821303 107796049,107816857,2017-01-19 10:22:00,">>107816687 >leave into another country that forces you to do things >government having even some kind of right to own anything We've been through all of this already.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484821320 107796049,107816860,2017-01-19 10:22:01,">>107816356 if they don't detect it it's because those products are apparently fulfilling the purpose they intended for them",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484821321 107796049,107816911,2017-01-19 10:22:31,">>107815370 This degeneracy is possible because those entities have license to broadcast, and you don't have license to broadcast. You can establish your own media company without licenses to counter degenerate media in ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1484821351 107796049,107816914,2017-01-19 10:22:33,">>107816857 Just like ancap, see?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484821353 107796049,107816950,2017-01-19 10:22:54,">>107816824 And dropped. Thanks for keeping the rest of mankind in shackles. Remain a slave forever.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484821374 107967958,107967958,2017-01-20 05:59:25,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - INAUGURATION DAY SPECIAL EDITION,Anonymous,Badge (10).png,44Tjo5DcQI2gm+m8bIuGvA==,US,,1484891965 107967958,107967991,2017-01-20 05:59:53,fpbp,,Anonymous,,,KW,,1484891993 107967958,107967998,2017-01-20 06:00:02,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484892002 107967958,107968035,2017-01-20 06:00:37,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1484892037 107967958,107968396,2017-01-20 06:05:44,Trump is my nigga.,,Anonymous,You_Doodle_2016_12_08T18_44_57Z.jpg,A5Cok2LLBxlkNUAYNomXDw==,US,,1484892344 107967958,107968479,2017-01-20 06:06:54,new one,,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,ES,,1484892414 107967958,107968502,2017-01-20 06:07:16,oh what could've been...,,Anonymous,ef2529be8f333c90e750251de7d5827d46c92aee199cb6da4bb152cdeed9bf0b[1].jpg,1EmqgvDvXENOdf33Xe+OXg==,SE,,1484892436 107967958,107968540,2017-01-20 06:07:58,">>107967958 I'm a libertardarian, but anarchocapatlism is cancer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484892478 107967958,107968709,2017-01-20 06:10:53,"Question fellow kids, is threatening to break NAP violating the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484892653 107967958,107968943,2017-01-20 06:14:02,">>107968709 I'd say. If you point a gun at my face I don't think ther'd be any question whether i could defend myself without you pulling the trigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484892842 107967958,107969168,2017-01-20 06:17:07,>>107968540,,Anonymous,oc.png,7vrXHJAJZTvBS2BzyzJ5hQ==,US,,1484893027 107967958,107969987,2017-01-20 06:28:44,,,Anonymous,1484252578220.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,US,,1484893724 107967958,107970186,2017-01-20 06:31:27,">>107968540 that's why helicopters are for",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484893887 107967958,107970323,2017-01-20 06:33:34,I don't know how much longer I can tolerate the bootlickers. Illegals can't be deported fast enough,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484894014 107967958,107970685,2017-01-20 06:37:55,">mfw I'm a few hours away from having access to the nuclear codes. Obongo has officially left the Whitehouse!",,Anonymous,image.jpg,kl7YI30/eUYdPfhu/TlH2w==,US,,1484894275 107967958,107970973,2017-01-20 06:41:18,">>107968540 >muh state >muh authority",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484894478 107967958,107971598,2017-01-20 06:49:01,">>107967958 >What's your thoughts on trump? He seems like the type of guy to nuke you if you violate his personal NAP. Is refusing to pay for something you've agreed to pay for a violation of the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484894941 107967958,107971716,2017-01-20 06:50:21,">>107971598 If you obtain the product or service you agreed to pay for it is indeed theft.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484895021 107967958,107971771,2017-01-20 06:50:56,">>107971598 It's breach of contract. So yeah.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484895056 107967958,107973116,2017-01-20 07:07:05,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484896025 107967958,107973139,2017-01-20 07:07:13,What's Libertarianism's answer to monopolies?,,Anonymous,1481920925564.jpg,krd3bBIxl/TPGnhpyhEhlQ==,US,,1484896033 107967958,107973308,2017-01-20 07:09:14,">>107973139 Create competition. Monopolies cannot exist without legal prevention of competition via government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484896154 107967958,107973385,2017-01-20 07:10:10,">>107973139 When a company buys up other companies, remaining company become more expensive to buy up, up to the point where it isnt profitable to buy every competition.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484896210 107967958,107973744,2017-01-20 07:13:57,">>107973385 If you dont see how dumb that idea is just take a 5 minute time out and come back.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1484896437 107967958,107973886,2017-01-20 07:15:32,">>107973744 If you dont see how that is not an argument just take 5 minute time out and come back",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484896532 107967958,107973961,2017-01-20 07:16:25,">>107973308 how do you respond against pic related? >>107973385 do you have a more detailed explanation or a model for this?",,Anonymous,1468692073715.png,ovpmmmeqmUdXJmz+HQqwhQ==,PT,,1484896585 107967958,107974046,2017-01-20 07:17:18,">>107967958 I'm curious. Did Pinochet really applied libertarian economic principles in the country or is it a myth? What were the results? I thought PInochet's Chile was a hell, but maybe I'm blue pilled.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484896638 107967958,107974117,2017-01-20 07:18:00,">>107969168 Morally justifying taxation is the most irrelevant thing when it comes down to a working system. It's impossible to run a country as large as ours without taxation. Now is the taxation excessive? Yeah, maybe a bit. Is it necessary? Yes, if you want to be the worlds #1 superpower.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484896680 107967958,107974128,2017-01-20 07:18:06,>>107973744,,Anonymous,NAP.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1484896686 107967958,107974230,2017-01-20 07:19:20,">>107973961 https://youtu.be/nOBD6v8g1F4",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484896760 107967958,107974268,2017-01-20 07:19:49,">>107973961 Response: Monopolies are probably not bad in every case and can be quite efficient.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484896789 107967958,107974405,2017-01-20 07:21:56,"http://pastebin.com/3G8FtiFW pastebin for my libertarian bros when you dont see a /lrg/ thread in the catalog make one",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1484896916 107967958,107974500,2017-01-20 07:22:53,">>107974046 It was much better than what came before but it wasn't even close to libertarianism or free market. If you want to see a modern day working free market. Look at Switzerland. They have the highest local purchasing power on earth. Everyone there is fucking rich. Deflationary currency fuck yeah.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484896973 107967958,107974741,2017-01-20 07:26:03,">>107974405 /pol/ will turn super libertarian and nationalist now that trump is elected",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484897163 107967958,107974782,2017-01-20 07:26:31,">>107968035 >>107967998 >nothing by Bastiat The original poster is attracted to people of their same sex",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484897191 107967958,107974783,2017-01-20 07:26:31,">>107974230 He merely restated what you said. That's not more detailed.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484897191 107967958,107974825,2017-01-20 07:26:59,">>107974500 Let me introduce you to the Swiss bank secrecy.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484897219 107967958,107974852,2017-01-20 07:27:15,">>107974268 so you do admit natural monopolies are a thing?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484897235 107967958,107975023,2017-01-20 07:29:33,">>107974783 Well it was a model of some sorts. And I am not an economist. I dont have all the answers of to how a free society would work in every detail and I dont have to. I only know something about the morality of authority and taxation.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484897373 107967958,107975154,2017-01-20 07:30:56,"So how does /lrg/ feel about the idea of /some/ natural monopolies such as water? How do you feel about treating money as a natural monopoly the way most (((evil dictators))) did in order to increase national independence from the transnational money flow? >>107974046 Pinochet's Chile was essentially a more awful version of Singapore. >Libertarian economic principles What he did was monetarist minarchism. Which is IMHO one of the least painful ways to bleed toxic money (i.e money originally created /introduced through Keynsian policies) out of a system. It's not libertarian but incredibly close.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1484897456 107967958,107975205,2017-01-20 07:31:29,">>107974852 Don't know but I assume yes in some cases. But this is extremely rare and will probably be beneficial for consumers.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484897489 107967958,107975219,2017-01-20 07:31:40,">>107973961 >How do your respond against a mathematic formula? The same you respond to the Pareto optimality in a free-market: It's more complicated than that.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484897500 107967958,107975234,2017-01-20 07:31:51,">>107974825 >Let me introduce you to the Swiss bank secrecy. What does this have to do at all with Swiss people's high living standards. You'd be just like them if you didn't get cucked into the EU and socialism. Loser.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484897511 107967958,107975280,2017-01-20 07:32:32,">>107975154 >So how does /lrg/ feel about the idea of /some/ natural monopolies such as water? I think there can be some arrangement on public property, such as park benches or lampposts and the like",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484897552 107967958,107975301,2017-01-20 07:32:45,">>107975154 >How do you feel about treating money as a natural monopoly the way most (((evil dictators))) did in order to increase national independence from the transnational money flow? Money should be privatized. You can't be a libertarian if you don't support free banking. It's literally the MOST important thing about libertarianism. It's what creates high living standards for people.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484897565 107967958,107975618,2017-01-20 07:36:15,">>107975301 The whole concept of money can be completely revamped. So I think its hard to tell what it will be. Obviously some form of exchange medium will exist, and free market of currency is indeed a must.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484897775 107967958,107975652,2017-01-20 07:36:39,">>107967958 >http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191581560273?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true >open link >based pinochet hat >my dick is so hard >$485 >soft as fuck",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484897799 107967958,107975665,2017-01-20 07:36:46,">>107975234 What does large accumulation of capital have to do with being rich? Hmmm...",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484897806 107967958,107975748,2017-01-20 07:37:36,">>107975618 >So I think its hard to tell what it will be It's pretty easy. Sweden had free banking for a long time and it was extremely successful. So did america during the gilded age(somewhat). This is what makes people rich. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0VDoaXaIou8bUVOOUJaZWJMb2s/edit",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484897856 107967958,107975890,2017-01-20 07:39:09,"The Libertarian Party might get Mike Pompeo's seat in Congress if they play it right and don't pull off another fucking Gary Johnson Oh who am I kidding, the Lolbertarian Party is a piece of shit, only capable of producing Gary Johnsons",,Anonymous,HankSchr.jpg,VsbXLLgP/fHLydWtVZ1DEQ==,US,,1484897949 107967958,107976038,2017-01-20 07:41:13,">>107967958 been a long fucking time /pol/ needs to be libertarian again sorry natsoc cunts, you're the second best option, but muh freedom is too important",,Anonymous,chart.png,nlAoCJw5aTQkVUSAr4qKjw==,ES,,1484898073 107967958,107976085,2017-01-20 07:41:44,">>107975023 It doesn't need to be you the one explaining. I actually think what you said in your first comment was better because you didn't make up random numbers like he did.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484898104 107967958,107976087,2017-01-20 07:41:45,">>107975665 It raises the value of the currency the working class gets paid in and buys things with. It means your living standards go up dramatically. See Switzerland.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484898105 107967958,107976189,2017-01-20 07:42:45,">>107967958 >>Post sneks",,Anonymous,wwsnaked.jpg,oiwOWh6zagg7spEDUzA+BA==,HU,,1484898165 107967958,107976281,2017-01-20 07:43:55,">>107967958 >What's your thoughts on trump? I like him because he shits on lefties. He has some pretty based views, as well as some bad ones. Also, LIBERTY OR DEATH",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1484898235 107967958,107976320,2017-01-20 07:44:17,">>107976038 my nig",,Anonymous,16142874_985672951565207_7768959286368837760_n.jpg,kKzo8ceGnOJeDsmstDfzMg==,DK,,1484898257 107967958,107976379,2017-01-20 07:44:59,">>107976189 >2 FUCKING YEARS FOR SEASON 2",,Anonymous,1478511007695.jpg,jKuddw1EZjuT7lZVUbcDyw==,CA,,1484898299 107967958,107976394,2017-01-20 07:45:08,">>107976320 based",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484898308 107967958,107976468,2017-01-20 07:45:55,"Fellow libertarians, THIS is where you should all be. A bit of nationalism is a good thing.",,Anonymous,me.png,JodGjOXx+KCkBaxUx7eMdA==,CA,,1484898355 107967958,107976655,2017-01-20 07:48:05,">>107974852 I can agree to a degree. A natural monopoly would at least control all market share in a particular industry in a particular region. But even then there may be a flaw. The main fear of monopolies is that of higher prices without a competitor to offer lower prices. Even with utilities, as an example of a natural monopoly, we do see people turning to substitutes. Some customers, not all, are turning to solar power for their homes in order to cut out their electric bill. Water could be imported in if the current water company became oppressive to the customers. There are always ways in which to eat at the market share of the current monopoly unless of course regulations are in place to prevent that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484898485 107967958,107976793,2017-01-20 07:49:49,,,Anonymous,1484809592745.jpg,QXnKKlH6/OEU76my9xUz/A==,DE,,1484898589 107967958,107976804,2017-01-20 07:49:56,">>107976468 I am pretty nationalistic (I would die for my cunt), but I don't think nationalism has to be taught or promoted, I think it is something you need to learn on your own.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1484898596 107967958,107976889,2017-01-20 07:51:01,">>107976793 >le 2can",,Anonymous,2canplay@thatgaem.jpg,BTIjLKEwFT5VRE48rQd2kw==,CA,,1484898661 107967958,107976947,2017-01-20 07:51:45,">>107976889 >>107976793 Also doge",,Anonymous,anarcho-capitalism.png,PbMUyVMvrobxexX8fvjI4Q==,CA,,1484898705 107967958,107977160,2017-01-20 07:53:49,">>107975219 Is that what bothers you? The formula is so simple you don't even need to write it. And what do you mean by ""more complicated""? There are no assumptions being made up there besides firms produce stuff, have costs, these can be measured in some way. My question is whether you think it is always true that, imagine 10 units of a good, two firms producing those 10 units (e.g. one produce 5 and another 5) is always cheaper than a single firm produce 10.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484898829 107967958,107977491,2017-01-20 07:57:00,">>107973961 This would inherently keep the cost down, because it can only increase in price so far as q remains lower than when produced by multiple firms. Price exceeds threshold where it would be economical for competing firms? Competing firms arise. Prices go back down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484899020 107967958,107977511,2017-01-20 07:57:12,">>107977160 But there are a lot more factors than just quantity of products and firms. Thats what makes it more complicated does it not?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484899032 107967958,107977571,2017-01-20 07:57:48,">>107976655 Yeah, but the fact there is some degree of substitution or threat of entry imply that prices converge to costs or is there still some market power left? Also, things that are traditionally considered natural monopolies are things like electricity or water distribution networks, not the water or electricity themselves. The price of electricity becomes regulated as a way to pay for the networks: the price of wholesale electricity is freely determined in the market.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484899068 107967958,107977823,2017-01-20 08:00:06,">>107977511 I'm merely talking about costs, though. That's what defines a natural monopoly. What extra stuff would you add?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484899206 107967958,107977872,2017-01-20 08:00:29,">>107977491 I didn't understand this, sorry.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484899229 107967958,107978059,2017-01-20 08:02:01,"ABORT THREAD AND JOIN THIS ONE >>107973842 → ABORT THREAD AND JOIN THIS ONE >>107973842 → ABORT THREAD AND JOIN THIS ONE >>107973842 → IT NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED THEY ARE PLANNING SOMETHING",,Anonymous,itendsnow.gif,h2Dx7d/pSMXgI6nCRVQnvg==,DE,,1484899321 107967958,107978130,2017-01-20 08:02:46,">>107976087 That's the point I made :D Basically they get rich because tax evaders all around the world.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484899366 107967958,107978192,2017-01-20 08:03:21,">>107977823 quality, convenience, ethics, brand familiarity",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484899401 107967958,107978375,2017-01-20 08:05:17,">>107976655 Germans made fuel from coal in WW2 because they didn't have access to oil. One reason for pretty cool German inventions in WW2 was the scarcity of resources.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484899517 107967958,107978509,2017-01-20 08:06:52,">>107971598 >>107971716 >>107971771 What counts as aggression in the non-aggression pact? How far can one go when he perceives his NAP being violated? What if I refuse to pay for a shitty service or backcharge a malfunctioning product?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484899612 107967958,107978536,2017-01-20 08:07:12,">>107977160 Most definitely not. If the company works inefficiently yes.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484899632 107967958,107978549,2017-01-20 08:07:19,">>107977571 With natural monopolies it is sometimes hard to see how it would play out. Surely at the time, a rail company controlled all lines within a particular small rural region. It would have been hard for a start up rail company to build new lines in that area. However, when the automobile was invented and mass produced it offered a substitute that did not need the prevailing infrastructure and therefore the natural monopoly of rail in a particular area was diminished. Innovation will always keep natural monopolies in check, it just takes a bit longer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484899639 107967958,107978574,2017-01-20 08:07:33,">>107978509 Violation of natural rights",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484899653 107967958,107978759,2017-01-20 08:09:33,">>107968540 well then you aren't a libertarian in any meaningful sense, cause anarchocapitalism is just the logical conclusion to its principles.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1484899773 107967958,107978782,2017-01-20 08:09:45,">>107978130 So you're saying if every capitalist in the world avoided their taxes and instead put it in the bank then everyone on earth will be super rich? Awesome. :D",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484899785 107967958,107978835,2017-01-20 08:10:21,">>107974117 maybe your country is too big. Ever considered that?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1484899821 107967958,107978849,2017-01-20 08:10:28,">>107978509 In case of shitty service you can still go to court or something, you dont have to outright nuke him or chop his hands off.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484899828 107967958,107978896,2017-01-20 08:10:54,">>107978549 Burger gets it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484899854 107967958,107978982,2017-01-20 08:11:38,">>107978192 That makes it significantly harder to model, despite ethics which is impossible to. But be careful not to fall for the leftist meme that just because things are complicated does not mean you cannot understand them. For instance, you don't need to explicitly talk about quality because what I said can be rephrased for a given measure of quality; or that convenience is part of the product itself the firm is selling.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484899898 107967958,107979199,2017-01-20 08:13:50,">>107978782 No moron only the guys evading taxes and the bank receiving their moneyz are rich. But because these banks fund companies in the tax evasion country they will have a benefit. This isn't rocket science. Are you dense or just trolling?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484900030 107967958,107979206,2017-01-20 08:13:54,">>107973308 >Monopolies create competition I... what?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1484900034 107967958,107979213,2017-01-20 08:13:56,">>107967958 Lolbergtardians are worse than commies tb.h Individualism is cancer",,Anonymous,lolbertarian drug policy 2.jpg,uIZDkoyHYJXrricDP/vZSA==,GR,,1484900036 107967958,107979226,2017-01-20 08:14:03,">>107978549 But innovation works both ways. It's true innovation can dismantle old natural monopolies but it is also true it can create new ones. You are not necessarily going down a path of less and less subadditivity in production. But, yes, what you said is true.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484900043 107967958,107979330,2017-01-20 08:14:55,">>107978536 So you're denying there exist economies of scale?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484900095 107967958,107979376,2017-01-20 08:15:22,">>107978982 That was my whole point, its more complicated than a simple formula because multiple factors make it harder to model. Same with global warming models nowadays. There are so many factors, they are basically trying to model a chaotic system, which leads to the IPCC to release faulty reports.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484900122 107967958,107979380,2017-01-20 08:15:26,">>107979213 >that pic >natural selection at work >bad wew pick 1",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484900126 107967958,107979438,2017-01-20 08:15:58,">>107974500 what is it with the meme that we are a even remotely libertarian society? The state is a huge presence in economic life.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1484900158 107967958,107979559,2017-01-20 08:17:22,">>107978849 Court, insurance, asking them to redo their job all sound rational, but so is the payout for a hand replacement surgery I'm performing in 20 minutes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484900242 107967958,107979665,2017-01-20 08:18:15,">>107979213 In a libertarian society you always have the possibility to create a collectivist subsystem while in a nonlibertarian society you won't ever be really free. Also this coming from a Greek who watched his country turn to shit because of bad government saddens me.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484900295 107967958,107979772,2017-01-20 08:19:07,">>107979376 Read the 2nd part I wrote, not just the first. What matters is whether it is always cheaper for more firms to be producing stuff rather than a single one or not. Yes, the fact there is a single firm rather than multiple firms in the market can lead to different issues on the demand side but that's not what I'm looking at. By the line of thought you're following, you're going down the path of the typical leftist thinker who decries all possible models you present him as too simple making knowledge about anything impossible. Then, they proceed to make some explanation in contrived prose which assumes a model as well because, at heart, they don't believe knowledge is impossible.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484900347 107967958,107979799,2017-01-20 08:19:25,">>107979665 Statists almost always blame everything except the concept of government. Mind control at its finest.",,Anonymous,statism.jpg,r/N6C9A6YoYXeTFn2C++WA==,NL,,1484900365 107967958,107979806,2017-01-20 08:19:29,">>107979199 >only the guys evading taxes and the bank receiving their moneyz are rich Clearly this isn't true because people in Switzerland have the HIGHEST local purchasing power on the planet? Hmm, it seems that a high level of economic freedom with a stable currency with high value results in people in said country having high living standards. Lol leftists are retarded.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484900369 107967958,107979825,2017-01-20 08:19:37,">>107979330 No why would I?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484900377 107967958,107980082,2017-01-20 08:22:10,">>107979825 Sorry, I read your previous reply >>107978536 the other way around. I was assuming both firms had access to the exact same technology btw.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484900530 107967958,107980152,2017-01-20 08:22:38,"Turkish Libertarian reporting in. Sadly this country will never enjoy the fruits of freedom because the people here are obsessed with statistm.",,Anonymous,ldp_ilk_kez_belediye_kazandi_h30379[1].jpg,5e3nk+qgtC4mUL8zrGi07g==,TR,,1484900558 107967958,107980190,2017-01-20 08:23:02,">>107979665 >you always have the possibility to create a collectivist subsystem No that's completely idiotic. I want to unite my entire kin under one leadership and lift them all together towards a common goal. I don't want my cousin to live in a commune where child rape and heroin are legal. There are transcendent universal values I care about and should be protected and enforced throughout the land. You need to get rid of that perverse individualistic mindset.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1484900582 107967958,107980224,2017-01-20 08:23:26,">>107978835 What is the correct size for a country?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484900606 107967958,107980369,2017-01-20 08:24:46,">>107979806 I lived in Switzerland. They are not so special trust me. Basically they do the same shit as us just with a better immigration policy and swimming in money because of their banks... Ask the Swiss. Maybe he will confirm this.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484900686 107967958,107980421,2017-01-20 08:25:15,">>107973961 Natural monopolies (for example, trains could be argued to be so because you can't be putting rails everywhere) have an initial impact, but they are also subject to competition, in this example, planes. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4116836/Two-friends-living-Newcastle-Birmingham-met-Malaga-cheaper-fly-SPAIN-getting-train-other.html I would argue there's absolutely nothing in the world that can't be replaced or ignored if costs increased above those of the potential competition or out of market's subjective value.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1484900715 107967958,107980647,2017-01-20 08:27:22,">>107980190 Nice bait.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484900842 107967958,107980699,2017-01-20 08:27:49,">>107979438 >what is it with the meme that we are a even remotely libertarian society? Reality? http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking You're a mostly free market nation. Deal with it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484900869 107967958,107980808,2017-01-20 08:28:55,">>107980369 >and swimming in money because of their banks... Yes. Capitalism. Capitalism made them rich. Not INFLATING their currency and spending trillions of euros made them rich. Why do you think your country is a shithole right now economically?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484900935 107967958,107980817,2017-01-20 08:28:58,">>107980152 >fruits of freedom The only people who still follow lolbertarianism this day and age are weirdo child rapists and jews pushing for open borders",,Anonymous,lolbergtardian pedos.jpg,NiEWtmQXUh1JYhkW3VxaMg==,GR,,1484900938 107967958,107980859,2017-01-20 08:29:32,">>107980817 Literally the only stupid thing rothbard has ever said.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484900972 107967958,107980921,2017-01-20 08:30:07,">>107979438 Comparatively you are, but yeah, Switzerland is less and less libertarian every year.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1484901007 107967958,107981040,2017-01-20 08:31:04,">>107980817 Pic is essentially why I moved from libertarian to full-on reactionary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484901064 107967958,107981129,2017-01-20 08:31:59,">>107980921 Their banking policy is really libertarian. They don't inflate their currencies like other nations. This is WHY they are rich.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484901119 107967958,107981157,2017-01-20 08:32:14,">>107980647 Of course a lolbertarian wouldn't care about the universal values shared and cherished by large groups of people.. Of course a lolbertarian would dismiss the basic fact that people naturally organise in societies that share cultural and racial characetristics and seek to impose uniformity and a common code of conduct and social norms.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1484901134 107967958,107981287,2017-01-20 08:33:16,">>107981129 Excepting when they peg their currency to the Euro in order to ""export"" more. Their currency is strong but it's far from being deflationary, it's always closely controlled.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1484901196 107967958,107981458,2017-01-20 08:34:47,">>107981040 >id Weird",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484901287 107967958,107981551,2017-01-20 08:35:32,">>107980859 The entire lolbertarian ""rights theory"" is ridiculous unscientific sophistry. Rights are a social construct and exist only if they are enforced by an entity that has been delegated power by the community at large and has the power to enforce them. Rights are not bestowed by God and are not a product of self ownership.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1484901332 107967958,107981608,2017-01-20 08:36:01,">>107981287 >Excepting when they peg their currency to the Euro in order to ""export"" more. Yes, but the fact they UNPEGGED it, allowed their currency to rise and restructured through the deflation simply proves they're a libertarian country. No other nation would allow that. Now the Swiss can import cheap EU goods. They get to live like fucking KINGS. >Their currency is strong but it's far from being deflationary I know, but it's a very strong currency and they only keep it stable and rarely inflate it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484901361 107967958,107981692,2017-01-20 08:36:46,">>107981551 I agree but I'm still somewhat of a libertarian, especially economically. I don't want to live in poverty.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484901406 107967958,107981856,2017-01-20 08:38:16,">>107980224 Well, you may know how big switzerland is. I think our country is still too big by zero to one order of magnitude to be governed sensibly/democratically. Every tile in pic related being its own country would be a good start imho. >>107980699 http://www.heritage.org/index/country/switzerland Doesn't sound very small-government to me. Surely a free market thriving under or because of state policy is not libertarian.",,Anonymous,serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fthecorner.eu%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F11%2FFractured-Europe-Map.png&sp=fb013ae2af6ebfe3d4070b0f50ace37c.png,K1wb/dfRS1j9mczVxgzhgQ==,CH,,1484901496 107967958,107982035,2017-01-20 08:39:52,">>107981608 They unpegged it, but they will peg it again if the Franc raises above what they consider the proper amount. Also, they print and lower interest rates constantly, how is that libertarian? Let's be honest, the only remaining element of libertarianism and what keeps socialist hellholes like Geneva from taking over is federalism. Competition between the cantons and self-ruling to a high degree is what prevents Switzerland (for now) from turning into yet another European socialdemocracy.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1484901592 107967958,107982059,2017-01-20 08:40:05,">>107967958 Explain how the environment could be protected in ancap land",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484901605 107967958,107982155,2017-01-20 08:40:57,">>107981856 >Doesn't sound very small-government to me. But it's one of the most free market countries on earth. >Surely a free market thriving under or because of state policy Yes, the state policy is leave the economy alone for the most part and lower taxes. >>107982035 >but they will peg it again No they won't. They're too smart for that. >>107982035 >Also, they print and lower interest rates constantly Yes, but the funny thing is they do this much less than other countries.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484901657 107967958,107982156,2017-01-20 08:40:57,">>107970685 All these celebrities and media figures are starting to convince me. Maybe we're wrong. I don't want to be on the wrong side of history.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484901657 107967958,107982452,2017-01-20 08:43:30,">>107967958 I'll give you a bump, I miss old /pol/",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1484901810 107967958,107982518,2017-01-20 08:44:05,">>107974117 You americunts always want to be #1 superpower. Ever considered that if you would stop being interventionist and focused solely on your continent you would have been the wealthiest country on this planet? God I hate you, you wasted so much just because you wanted to help europe. You should have let things around you just escalate, and only respond when someone atacks you, your patriotism and number of citiziens would fuck anybody op.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1484901845 107967958,107982636,2017-01-20 08:44:59,">>107967958 TAXATION IS THEFT",,Anonymous,1472483002990.jpg,23l3y8HiPFKwIXz5FisiSw==,GB,,1484901899 107967958,107983137,2017-01-20 08:49:14,">>107980817 >Caring if some degenerate's offspring doesn't get fed Good, people who don't look after their children don't continue their line, nothing wrong with this Honestly, if this makes the racist reactionaries feel any better, most of the people who are this incompetent will be nogs and koreans",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484902154 107967958,107983183,2017-01-20 08:49:32,">>107980421 The fact there is substitutability does not do away with monopoly power. Understand monopoly power as the scenario where if a firm raises its price it doesn't lose the whole market. In economics there are even models of monopolistic competition to account precisely for that. The smartphone market is a prime example of monopolistic competition. In fact, most markets are follow the monopolistic competition market since no two goods are perfectly equal but only very close to being equal at most: think about two generic clothing stores next to each other.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484902172 107967958,107983308,2017-01-20 08:50:37,">>107983183 most markets follow the monopolistic competition model since no two goods are perfectly equal but only, at most, very close to being equal*",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484902237 107967958,107983375,2017-01-20 08:51:06,">>107980808 Please stop it. My country is far from being a shithole. There is lots of room for improvement and I am all for capitalism but I am also not so delusional as to depict Switzerland as perfect state. Fact is they don't have a higher living standard than we do (I lived there so i can tell remember) and mostly the same kind of problems we face.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484902266 107967958,107983623,2017-01-20 08:53:19,">>107983375 >Fact is they don't have a higher living standard than we do This is empirically false. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Cost-of-living/Local-purchasing-power Enjoy your shitty inflationary currency.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484902399 107967958,107984083,2017-01-20 08:56:59,">>107967958 >this kills the lolbertarian",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,JBSWVIqQRGv79nlSHt6vsw==,BR,,1484902619 107967958,107984269,2017-01-20 08:58:40,">>107981157 >large groups of people Somehow they come up with a better way of living for myself than me. >fact that people naturally organise in societies that share cultural and racial characetristics Looking at my country this isn't true. >seek to impose uniformity and a common code of conduct and social norms Like I give a fuck about your social norms. I'm a free being I don't want to eat your shit propaganda. If your style of living is better than mine prove it while competing with me. But you don't even have the courage to do that. That is why you need a nanny state who shelters you and dictates what you have to think and do. People like you make me sick and are responsible for all the problems of my country.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484902720 107967958,107984658,2017-01-20 09:02:06,">>107982059 Interesting and important question!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484902926 107967958,107984910,2017-01-20 09:04:17,">>107982059 >Explain how the environment could be protected in ancap land Property rights.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484903057 107967958,107984989,2017-01-20 09:04:55,">>107982059 How would the environment be protected in any other form of government? Communism did shit tons of environmental destruction and it had tons of bureaucracy. So what are you implying, that the size of government plays a role in environmental protection? Aral Sea ring a bell?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484903095 107967958,107985484,2017-01-20 09:09:01,">>107983623 I'm enjoying elections in September!!!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484903341 107967958,107985634,2017-01-20 09:10:11,">>107985484 MERKEL WILL WIN",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484903411 107967958,107985914,2017-01-20 09:12:18,">>107985634 If she wins or not is not so important. Important is to establish the AfD in the parliament bigly. Maybe they will come to their senses then.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484903538 107967958,107985959,2017-01-20 09:12:38,What makes you think unchained corporations who are only motivated by profit are better than the government that at least pretends to care?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484903558 107967958,107986215,2017-01-20 09:14:57,">>107985959 Because the government is inherently inefficient.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484903697 107967958,107986226,2017-01-20 09:15:01,">>>>107985959 People can change corporations by stop giving them money if they don't like them. You can't stop the goverment taking money from you because they will use violence.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1484903701 107967958,107986363,2017-01-20 09:16:09,">>107985914 >Important is to establish the AfD in the parliament bigly What are the chances of them winning anything? What will they win? >>107985959 Because the government can use violence against me. Businesses can only convince me to buy their product or work for them.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484903769 107967958,107986642,2017-01-20 09:18:15,">>107985959 >companies >motivated by profit >gubmint >motivated by special interests >me >motivated by fear of starvation and homelessness",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484903895 107967958,107986654,2017-01-20 09:18:20,">>107979206 no he's telling you to create competition. create competition was a command",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484903900 107967958,107986912,2017-01-20 09:20:19,">>107986363 They most likely won't win jackshit but get some seats in the parliament. We will enjoy their funny speeches and other parties will fear they lose more votes and adapt their politics to a less migration and euro friendly course.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484904019 107967958,107987177,2017-01-20 09:22:15,">>107986912 Holy shit why is your country so fucking stupid? I can't believe how brainwashed the people are. You should move.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484904135 107967958,107987466,2017-01-20 09:24:28,">>107967958 >NAP",,Anonymous,index.jpg,u8Y7np1P2uvRGQKEqUTFYQ==,US,,1484904268 107967958,107987893,2017-01-20 09:27:58,">>107967958 I hope your mandatory """"""healthcare"""""" gets axed asap while they're at it, they should undo the damage that is """"""social security"""""" as well",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484904478 107967958,107988319,2017-01-20 09:31:33,">>107987177 Don't know. Maybe if I can find a job in Singapore or some other nice country. Atm I'm finishing my degree.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484904693 107967958,107988515,2017-01-20 09:33:06,">>107980190 you're thinking in terms of your local community which is admirable and befitting of a normal person in a libertarian society you could find a bunch of competing communities, each having a twist to their particular flavour of individual vs communal aka common interest, all voluntary of course regarding narcotics - prohibition has never proven itself to work so you might want to consider that",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484904786 107967958,107988527,2017-01-20 09:33:10,">>107976085 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwJA3xWNHeE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484904790 107967958,107988573,2017-01-20 09:33:31,">>107987893 See I am all for you stating your opinions but it always bugs me that people from countries with a low standard of living lecture people from wealthy countries that are essentially doing better than them.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484904811 107967958,107988764,2017-01-20 09:34:56,">>107988573 no, I am merely stating from experience what happens when mandatory state ponzi schemes claw their way into anon's majority of income while providing little to no benefit in return",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484904896 107967958,107989151,2017-01-20 09:37:56,">>107987893 We never needed mandatory healthcare or social security. Fraternal organizations and mutual benefit societies provided those services prior to the great depression. At one time in the US close to 1 in 5 adults was a member. They provided death benefits, health insurance, and other forms of insurance and aid. If the welfare state was never created they probably would have continued to grow and most people would have health and death insurance at the cost of a simply yearly lodge due, or they could decline freely of their own will without being forced. Also physicians were paid on contract by the lodge and competed to be selected by the lodges to provide medical care.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484905076 107967958,107989230,2017-01-20 09:38:26,">>107967958 Random red pill Make memes and try to wake idiots up I'm not saying all gays are completely degenerate..but let's face facts..if straight men could fuck random women at will, we would do it..but we can't..as women won't allow it.. That's why we have tinder and gays have grinder. Imagine you had a kid and every other week he sees you and his mother and continually strange women in the house coming down for breakfast..because that's the REALITY of gay marriage. Obviously there are outliers but seriously think about it. Why do you think aids spread so fast and was predominantly a gay epidemic. The Jewish MSM won't talk about it or admit reality. Plus pedos already date and marry women in order to abuse their kids..but they have the inconvenience of having to fuck an actual woman and they have to keep their abuse covert.. SOLUTION..just ""marry"" another pedo and adopt. There is no ""equality of marriage"" Blacks are the same..that's why aids is wiping out millions in Africa.. Please fucking help me push reality out there.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1484905106 107967958,107989301,2017-01-20 09:38:58,">>107988764 It's not a ponzi scheme. It is essentially a redistribution of money.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484905138 107967958,107989824,2017-01-20 09:42:29,Am I a libertarian if I want to kill billions of people?,,Anonymous,rare misprint do not copy.jpg,C8a+FuZat/Y14xk84FxxTw==,US,,1484905349 107967958,107990038,2017-01-20 09:43:55,">>107989824 You sound like a commie",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484905435 107967958,107990249,2017-01-20 09:45:15,">>107989824 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmjk8GddRIM",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484905515 107967958,107990813,2017-01-20 09:48:39,">>107979213 >let's spend millions of taxpayer money trying to keep these stupid cunts alive, out of trouble and reproducing for decades no",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1484905719 107967958,107991017,2017-01-20 09:49:51,">>107988527 he says it's accurate but it's not that's what is taught to first year students in intro to micro or in their second micro course if they're mathematically challenged The notion there is subadditivity does not require continuous production functions nor utility functions. Judging on this video alone, this walter block is an ideologue and intellectually lazy.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1484905791 107967958,107991115,2017-01-20 09:50:22,">>107989301 it is worse than a ponzi scheme by being monopolistic and mandatory, pure intragenerational theft let's take pensions for example: - early entrants got what they were in for via wealth stolen from those who have no choice unless they seek to live by the black economy - each successive reform curbes rights and payouts without lessening the stranglehold on income - existing overvalued pensions are contractual obligations and as such untouchable - there is no way out until the bitter end, which is coming sooner or later - it feeds a bloated bureaucracy that answers to noone now take healthcare: - there are very limited patient rights one cannot influence - there is no way to opt out except black economy lifestyle - geriatrics are the vast majority of users while their contributions are the lowest of all groups included - state """"""insurance"""""" holds a monopoly when dealing with standards, plans, suppliers, etc - it is a top-down central planning approach with no regard to actual needs of the users, infrastructure organization, elimination of graft etc - 21st century tier non-emergency treatment in a timely fashion is all but impossible to get (cure beats preventon in commie systems like these) - user is treated like a piece of shit, customer is king - as experienced by anyone purchasing services on the free market (dental, prosthetic, physical rehab and the like) - it feeds a bloated bureaucracy that answers to noone and benefits price-gouging suppliers like you wouldn't believe",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484905822 107967958,107991360,2017-01-20 09:52:05,">>107967958 Geolibertarian checking in threadly reminder that land belongs to everyone and a single tax is societies liberator",,Anonymous,notatax-241x300.jpg,8AyU8dQdbxGSxDp+rpjsVQ==,US,,1484905925 107967958,107991878,2017-01-20 09:55:20,">>107967958 Why would an ancap support a government with nuclear capabilities, you invalidated your own philosophy retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484906120 107967958,107991909,2017-01-20 09:55:30,">>107991115 Totally agree. Thanks for the writeup. This shit would go bankrupt in a year if faced with private competitors.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484906130 107967958,107992139,2017-01-20 09:56:50,">>107985959 Unchained corporations keep each other in check, undercut and steal clients from each other. They're not safe even forming a cartel - because of actors outside the cartel, and within. Whoever breaks the pact first cashes out biggest. When the government comes down on a sector and picks a winner, the real consumer assrape starts.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1484906210 107967958,107992527,2017-01-20 09:59:03,">>107976468 you don't need to get there from minarchism, you can get there from ancap anarchy newfag the nolan test actually push you away from the bottom-right corner if you show opinions about degeneracy/nationalism/discrimination, but actually that's a fallacy. It doesn't ask about the method to reach there, ancap method is of the civiliced man, authoritarian methods are of a barbarian ie white nigger",,Anonymous,15304301_1186965291371788_3912368800739376245_o.png,fkOiVW3aR6GavGK/h/NPUQ==,ES,,1484906343 107967958,107992721,2017-01-20 10:00:02,">>107992139 That's just not true in most cases but is possible depending on political circumstances.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484906402 107967958,107992868,2017-01-20 10:00:52,">>107967958 Disgruntled Libertarian Trump voter here. As soon as he said he values the nation state I knew he was my guy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484906452 107967958,107992890,2017-01-20 10:00:59,">>107991115 BASED Hey man read this. We REALLY need to move to a free market healthcare system.",,Anonymous,1423784.jpg,fw2siAr+wUFB7qBnnKWPPQ==,CA,,1484906459 107967958,107992943,2017-01-20 10:01:16,">>107992139 Yep",,Anonymous,db.jpg,SpzYmJZS4G5CjUR5O6MY6A==,DE,,1484906476 107967958,107993017,2017-01-20 10:01:39,">>107989151 Okay, this isn't the 19th century dreamcake",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484906499 107967958,107993075,2017-01-20 10:02:02,"rent = taxes Single tax on land value is the only way to curb inequity in society read some Henry George",,Anonymous,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,US,,1484906522 107967958,107993618,2017-01-20 10:05:05,">>107992890 Excellent find anon!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484906705 107967958,107993651,2017-01-20 10:05:14,">>107992890 >>Licensure You do realize he's advocating for unlicensed doctors right? >>Cross state insurance prohibited Gee, wonder who passed that law? You guys are literally retarded and so ideologically entrenched in your ""free market"" theology that you can't see the forest or the trees",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484906714 107967958,107993924,2017-01-20 10:06:53,">>107992868 The moment I heard him in one of his rallies, all my shit-posting fuel was transferred to shit post for him everywhere I went online. >I comfortably climaxed.",,Anonymous,A-AHN THICKER Pearl.png,KyjBp0FrMBm0N0uPYq9k0A==,NL,,1484906813 107967958,107994116,2017-01-20 10:08:01,"If the Libertarians accept that ownership of land is a privilege, and agree to pay a fair rent (or land value tax) for that privilege, they will hold the key to getting rid of property (building) tax, income tax, sales tax, amusement tax, and a host of other taxes. Furthermore, statistical evidence indicates that land value tax promotes compact, harmonious use of land and eliminates a root cause of poverty. In this case, adopting land tax can reduce the need for zoning and protection of rural land, and for housing projects, welfare, and a host of bureaucratic services for the poor. Greens who study this issue will find that small and simple combination taxes that are essentially payments for exclusive access to common resources will address most of thier interests without complicated and intrusive bureaucracies. Land tax itself will eliminate land speculation and land monopoly, and will promote orderly development of land in cities and towns, taking developmental pressure off suburban and rural land. Severence taxes on our common heritage of non-renewable resources can even-handedly reduce the rate of exploitation of these resources, conserving them for future generations. Finally, taxes on pollution are really payments for exclusive use of our common rights to clean air and water. It reflects that the air and water is less valuable to the rest of us when it is polluted, and those who pollute literally owe us for the right to tresspass on our air and water. Of course land monopoly will not solve all the problems by itself, but it is the key area where Greens and Libertarians are separated from each other as well as from thier own principles. Once this is reconciled, we can more readily work together on other issues where we are in agreement, such as liberating our monitary system the banking monopoly, ending military domination of foreign peoples, and ending government interference against people who commit victumless ""crimes.""",,Libertarian and Green compromise for a better future,maxresdefault.jpg,dUOxGiqAOvjVk7PLeO95hw==,US,,1484906881 107967958,107994139,2017-01-20 10:08:10,">>107993651 Licensure leads to a credential society. Do eyebrow waxers and tattoo artists need a license and pay for worthless hours of continuing education classes to maintain their license? A license does not equal safe or good at your job. It just means more regulation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484906890 107967958,107994158,2017-01-20 10:08:18,">>107993651 >You do realize he's advocating for unlicensed doctors right? No, there will be competing free market licensing agencies instead of horrible corrupt monopolies and 95% of people will only use licensed doctors.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484906898 107967958,107994423,2017-01-20 10:09:54,">>107967958 DUDE WEED LMAO",,Anonymous,image.png,xxNBlxP+vRByK1+Bjxm5Mg==,CA,,1484906994 107967958,107994545,2017-01-20 10:10:40,">>107993075 Hm but landlords can easily make tenants pay this tax. Wouldn't this be unfair? How about VAT as single tax?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484907040 107967958,107995090,2017-01-20 10:14:10,">>107991115 To add to this, as a man here you have a solid 25% chance not to make it to pension age, which is 65 and going up. At 17.8% for social security payments over 30+ years that's more than enough money to buy a whole apartment/house that you could rent out or live in and then leave to your kids. Instead that money is confiscated by the government and in return you get an investment package with 25% chance of total blowout, and greater chance of marginal returns, and with the spare your politicians buy votes from gypsies.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1484907250 107967958,107995221,2017-01-20 10:15:00,">>107991017 I'm not sure what he says in the video that would make you think he is an ideologue. I also don't understand how him giving a basic lecture is intellectually lazy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484907300 107967958,107995313,2017-01-20 10:15:35,">>107994116 I respectfully disagree, all land titles should be allodial, and taxes taken from production/creation of value like crops or firewood sales; one should not be penalized for their success or that of their ancestors who toiled for the very reason of providing their offspring with as good a life as possible the prime danger in a society that taxes non-productive means is the risk of that society eating itself in an increasingly oppressive spiral of wealth redistribution don't get me wrong, there should be standards when dealing with things like commercial mineral extraction, pollution and water use since their impact goes beyond mere ownership we have shifted from resource to resource through time, I don't see why finite oil and gas would be any different in this regard",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484907335 107967958,107995483,2017-01-20 10:16:35,">>107992527 I like the snek memes. The more I am reading these thread the more convinced I am.",,Anonymous,1484841339388.png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,RU,,1484907395 107967958,107995551,2017-01-20 10:17:00,"trump can suck a fucking dick, what a fucking liberal fatso and retard... i cant believe he is what passes for right wing in this country anymore",,Anonymous,1476718608610.png,BFCxfZlCTwkzVSTWgTa+cg==,US,,1484907420 107967958,107995558,2017-01-20 10:17:01,">>107994116 We are libertarians who make the classical liberal distinction between land, labor and capital. We believe in the private possession of land without interference from the state, but in the community collection of land rent to prevent monopolization of land. We believe that all government activities should at least be limited to those which increase the value of land by more than what the government collects, and that government should be funded entirely from the land value increases it creates. We oppose direct state monopolization of land as well as state-sanctioned private monopolization of land, and advocate that state and federally held land pay land rent to the communities the same as private land. We advocate that government be allowed to spend only what is authorized by voter referendum or similar device and that it take for itself the minimum it is authorized to spend. Those who advocate collection of the full rent stipulate that the proceeds be divided among community members on a per-capita or similar basis, for the land, and the rent, belong to the people, not the state. We condemn the taxation of property improvements, and of all activities, productive, consumptive, or recreational, as invasions by the state into the private affairs of free individuals.",,Anonymous,download.jpg,1R/aguyD25rNlFzLl8RgXw==,US,,1484907421 107967958,107995795,2017-01-20 10:18:30,">>107994545 it would effectively disincentive holding land monopolies to begin with rent=tax landlord=government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484907510 107967958,107996315,2017-01-20 10:21:23,">>107995313 The royal free lunch When the state granted land titles to a fraction of the population, it gave that fraction devices with which to levy, and pocket, tolls on the fruits of the labor of others. Those without land privileges must either buy or rent those privileges from the people who received the grants or from their assignees. Thus the state titles enable large landowners to collect a transfer payment, or ""free lunch"" from the actual land users. ""The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent."" --Carlyle",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484907683 107967958,107996394,2017-01-20 10:21:47,">>107995313 Tortured rationalizations According to royal libertarians, land becomes private property when one mixes one's labor with it. And mixing what is yours with what is not yours in order to own the whole thing is considered great sport. But the notion is filled with problems. How much labor does it take to claim land, and how much land can one claim for that labor? And for how long can one make that claim? According to classical liberals, land belonged to the user for as long as the land was being used, and no longer. But according to royal libertarians, land belongs to the first user, forever. So, do the oceans belong to the heirs of the first person to take a fish out or put a boat in? Does someone who plows the same field each year own only one field, while someone who plows a different field each year owns dozens of fields? Should the builder of the first transcontinental railroad own the continent? Shouldn't we at least have to pay a toll to cross the tracks? Are there no common rights to the earth at all? To royal libertarians there are not, but classical liberals recognized that unlimited ownership of land never flowed from use, but from the state: A right of property in movable things is admitted before the establishment of government. A separate property in lands not till after that establishment.... He who plants a field keeps possession of it till he has gathered the produce, after which one has as good a right as another to occupy it. Government must be established and laws provided, before lands can be separately appropriated and their owner protected in his possession. Till then the property is in the body of the nation. --Thomas Jefferson",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484907707 107967958,107996462,2017-01-20 10:22:16,">>107994545 >VAT it encourages middlemen since the entirety of the tax falls on the consumer along with whatever said middlemen unnecessarily add to the total cost companies can and do make great business by balancing VAT inputs and outputs, an option the consumer does not have VAT is the greatest piece of shit to have taken root on the old continent",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484907736 107967958,107996471,2017-01-20 10:22:18,"Where do you anons think the economy is headed? Debt and interest rate levels here in Canada and many other countries are very concerning, but I wonder if a global collapse will result.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1484907738 107967958,107996540,2017-01-20 10:22:43,">>107979380 >NAPA >Darwin Pick one",,Anonymous,image.jpg,SR4Yqoo71sWzhisinvqecw==,CA,,1484907763 107967958,107996955,2017-01-20 10:25:09,">>107993924 Those rallies were fucking comfy. I'm going to miss them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484907909 107967958,107996971,2017-01-20 10:25:13,"I hate taxes and people telling me what to do, I'm gonna lurk in these threads more often",,Anonymous,image.jpg,nnlrQua341avnAdNiKXKXw==,FR,,1484907913 107967958,107997335,2017-01-20 10:27:09,">>107995795 It's a good system for making sure that land is efficiently used. But is it just?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484908029 107967958,107998215,2017-01-20 10:31:34,">>107996315 if one goes way back in history, one would come to the same conclusion, that is that all of the land owned by anyone is borne out of theft/appropriation/grant by x before the banking system got kiked out to the max people actually managed to acquire their own via fruits of their labour; imho this should be the prime target for elimination before any and all other initiatives experience also shows that any tax, no matter how precisely targeted or well intended, somehow leaves those with the means to skirt it a way of doing just that (via shell companies, transfer of ownership, lobbying etc), whilst joe blow bears the brunt of the burdain",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484908294 107967958,107998368,2017-01-20 10:32:14,">>107996462 So what is a better system?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484908334 107967958,107998481,2017-01-20 10:32:47,,,Anonymous,3567343457345348348.jpg,R1IDtW3Wp0ITJqEpWLaWww==,US,,1484908367 107967958,107998957,2017-01-20 10:35:12,">>107998368 sales tax, each and every transaction gets taxed (by a way lesser degree than current VAT), taking away the option input-output balancing we had that before and the only middlemen around were the ones who actually provided value in their service",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484908512 107967958,107998960,2017-01-20 10:35:13,">>107996955 Checked, and agreed.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484908513 107967958,107999085,2017-01-20 10:35:52,">>107998215 Two different kinds of indirect taxation One of the most perverted twisting of concepts is reflected in what Hamilton called ""indirect taxation."" To him, and to many royal libertarians, indirect taxation is ""hidden"" taxation, as a value-added tax or sales tax that is buried in the price of purchased goods. This kind of indirectness is hardly admirable, and is similar to the kind of indirectness involved in chicanery and duplicity. Small wonder Jefferson called Hamilton a monarchist. The Articles of Confederation embodied an entirely different concept of indirect taxation. The United States was to levy a tax, not on individual property holders, but on each state, based on its aggregate land value. The assumption was that each state would levy a similar tax on each county, and so on down to the individual. In this way, the individual would never have to face a federal tax agent directly, and if the federal government did not have the full support of the states, it could not bully them as easily as it could bully individuals. Unfortunately, states did not support the federal government to its satisfaction from the beginning (being strapped from the war). Rather than working things out patiently, Hamilton introduced power-centralizing measures into the new Constitution. One was the other kind of indirect taxation, the mosquito-bite kind that you don't see happening. Royal libertarians trumpet this covert taxation as a virtue over direct real estate taxation, even when it means that ""free trade"" is being taxed. Socialist Confusions >http://geolib.com/essays/sullivan.dan/royallib.html If you want to learn more about it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484908552 107967958,107999178,2017-01-20 10:36:27,"What are some GOAT books that shit on/refute marxist ideas? Especially need some decent arguments on how the very idea of a classless utopia (even in a hypothetical perfect scenario) is less ethical than the capitalism we have/are close to having at this present moment",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1484908587 107967958,107999704,2017-01-20 10:38:53,">>107998957 But this puts small companies at a disadvantage who don't do every step of manufacturing in-house.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1484908733 107967958,108001106,2017-01-20 10:45:52,">>107999704 they are already at a disadvantage against (((globalized))) businesses that outsource and import things at a fraction of a cost main advantage of small companies is their qualitative differentiation =finding a niche, being totally responsive to their fewer accounts' needs and so on",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484909152 107967958,108003493,2017-01-20 10:57:03,Bump for comfy thread,,Anonymous,,,US,,1484909823 107967958,108004325,2017-01-20 11:00:51,">>107967958 Hope this becomes a recurring general, thanks for starting it OP. As an AnCap I'm mostly just on this site for the memes.",,Anonymous,1484512830866.jpg,J5sdyO+XLAhzmT4u04NP4A==,GB,,1484910051 107967958,108005448,2017-01-20 11:05:37,">>107999178 common sense should be enough, just focus on deterministic shit that takes the individual out of the equation by focusing solely on their class and so-called struggle, as if individuals were ants; his entire approach is a backward rationalization of a predetermined outcome in his mind it's outdated anyway; truth is there are no proleteriat around, if his utopia were to come true it would've happened already at the time the group was at their peak numbers",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484910337 107967958,108005830,2017-01-20 11:07:00,">>107978759 Not true. Minarchism is the logical conclusion. Anerchism is doomed to failure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484910420 107967958,108006034,2017-01-20 11:07:51,">>108004325 Stick around I pledge to make one every morning.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484910471 107967958,108006127,2017-01-20 11:08:14,">>107980817 Daily reminder that Libertarians are not Anarcho-capitalists. Libertarians do not utilize the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484910494 107967958,108006895,2017-01-20 11:11:20,">>108004325 But this is a Libertarian general.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484910680 107967958,108008003,2017-01-20 11:15:18,">>108006895 >This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. Anarcho Capitalism is just the logical conclusion of Libertarian principles. And even if people don't want to associate the two, it's as close to an Ancap discussion as I can get.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484910918 107967958,108008393,2017-01-20 11:16:48,">>107975154 Monopolies are necessary when the physical infrastructure required for competition is too costly or physically impossible. We don't need five different sets of power poles everywhere you go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484911008 107967958,108008990,2017-01-20 11:19:00,">>108008393 for your example, we could use a totally distributed power generation that doesn't rely on hiking up prices, legislative pandering and such doesn't even have to be individual, can easily be owned, operated and used by the local community same goes for pretty much every other utility",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1484911140 107967958,108009093,2017-01-20 11:19:24,">>108008003 A limited state is necessary, closed borders are necessary, a true democracy doesn't exist, Taxes are necessary as long as the people can decide their money's usage. Are you triggered yet?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484911164 107967958,108009938,2017-01-20 11:22:39,">>108009093 I have a folder of anarchy balls dude, you can't be ancap on this board with thin skin",,Anonymous,1482004993766.jpg,N1aIPnA6e4IrEeu38hv6JA==,GB,,1484911359 107967958,108010315,2017-01-20 11:23:55,">>108009093 >a bunch of just-so statements",,Anonymous,6f8.png,gE7dc2eYcU5F5r7T6ZgSVQ==,CA,,1484911435 107967958,108015959,2017-01-20 11:41:12,Bump,,Anonymous,15317936_1185625421505775_1330841818728057929_n.png,gGLUgX3jP4xxJx+JqvM6KA==,US,,1484912472 107967958,108021190,2017-01-20 11:53:06,">>107967958 DUDE... JUST WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU USE THAT ANIMAL IN A LOGO? IT'S REPULSIVE!!!!",,Anonymous,Kute Klux Kristian.jpg,aC9YMgMcQCjbTs79rCim8Q==,PT,,1484913186 107967958,108022378,2017-01-20 11:55:59,">>108021190 Top snek. I have a handful of unreleased logos made, this one is pretty compared to some of the others.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484913359 108071454,108071454,2017-01-20 15:00:33,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >post sneks and rare hoppes >give a bump for your trusty FN SCAR H and tomahawk missle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb-3lzfPqwww",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - So to speak edition,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,u6quAXPe+QGs//3kIky00w==,BA,,1484924433 108071454,108071560,2017-01-20 15:01:05,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1484924465 108071454,108072313,2017-01-20 15:05:02,,,Anonymous,1484737184409.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,BA,,1484924702 108204908,108204908,2017-01-21 06:00:58,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads. One of you greedy capitalist pigs have to buy this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191581560273?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - ROADLESS EDITION,Anonymous,Badge (7).png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,US,,1484978458 108204908,108204954,2017-01-21 06:01:25,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1484978485 108204908,108205139,2017-01-21 06:03:22,">>108204908 >>108204954",,Anonymous,1481415234167.gif,iG9/kVN8gYTXI1gxHN1kTQ==,CA,,1484978602 108204908,108205181,2017-01-21 06:03:53,">>108204908 >>108204954 .",,Anonymous,1483151371393.png,pwrWH+zgZzypK684lm3Jlg==,CA,,1484978633 108204908,108205221,2017-01-21 06:04:16,">>108204954 >>108204908",,Anonymous,libertardian.gif,4b182v8zJ3giLhZ6gDQTPA==,CA,,1484978656 108204908,108205315,2017-01-21 06:05:20,,,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe_0.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1484978720 108204908,108205848,2017-01-21 06:11:54,">>108205181 >>108205221 >>108205139 oh shit whats that?",,Anonymous,Untitled-1.png,8G8GEN/IPcYxRHk1qM06SA==,US,,1484979114 108204908,108206186,2017-01-21 06:16:19,,,Anonymous,You_Doodle_2016_12_08T18_44_57Z.jpg,A5Cok2LLBxlkNUAYNomXDw==,US,,1484979379 108204908,108206295,2017-01-21 06:17:42,useful idiots.,,Anonymous,1482707001298.jpg,s/UFWRV1c8c6fxfYIhvhPw==,GB,,1484979462 108204908,108206582,2017-01-21 06:21:17,">>108206295 Looks like we got one boys",,Anonymous,ancap (1).png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1484979677 108204908,108207625,2017-01-21 06:33:07,,,Anonymous,snek (6).png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,US,,1484980387 108204908,108207837,2017-01-21 06:36:13,">>108207625 That's great.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484980573 108204908,108208636,2017-01-21 06:45:30,,,Anonymous,snek (3).png,ZJUzc6WPaHObMTxjZmkz+Q==,US,,1484981130 108204908,108209789,2017-01-21 06:58:14,,,Anonymous,an_cap.jpg,+JnAHjdxQjg1t8UbRG3Ggg==,US,,1484981894 108204908,108210409,2017-01-21 07:05:05,">>108206295 >free trade breaks nationalities wut,instead of promoting nogs coming in our country for cheap labor they would works for our companies but far away from me",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484982305 108204908,108212540,2017-01-21 07:29:33,This thread gonna die. everyone's sleeping in because they cant handle their booze.,,Anonymous,1482004993766.jpg,N1aIPnA6e4IrEeu38hv6JA==,US,,1484983773 108204908,108212758,2017-01-21 07:32:26,,,Anonymous,NAP.jpg,s7b8GZAKxTx2ABCbONhEJg==,CA,,1484983946 108204908,108212840,2017-01-21 07:33:14,,,Anonymous,tmp_17819-14848807506361910262139.gif,c08THj9z5BJcZ/EGHP6A6Q==,US,,1484983994 108204908,108212999,2017-01-21 07:34:58,">>108212758 badum tss",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484984098 108204908,108213053,2017-01-21 07:35:33,These generals are pure cancer. I understand that this is a reaction to the /leftypol/ raid threads but we're better than this.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484984133 108204908,108213351,2017-01-21 07:39:08,">>108213053 The reaction to leftys generals is just the icing on the cake. However there is a large unrepresented libertarian presence here on /pol/ that these threads are for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484984348 108204908,108213376,2017-01-21 07:39:25,">>108204908 libertarianism is the ultimate cuck ideology you enjoy being a wageslave without worker's rights working for a jew boss all your life you enjoy immigrants flooding into your country because they are cheaper than you",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1484984365 108204908,108213724,2017-01-21 07:43:29,">>108213376 >you enjoy immigrants flooding into your country because they are cheaper than you that's because of shitty regulations and no free trade with countries where comes the immigrants.And it's our government that cucked the west,companies didn't give a shit they just want profit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1484984609 108204908,108213858,2017-01-21 07:44:59,">>108213376 Meritocracy is a cuck ideology? How about ""big Daddy government will provide for me."" That's way more cucked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484984699 108204908,108215595,2017-01-21 08:04:24,,,Anonymous,15317936_1185625421505775_1330841818728057929_n.png,gGLUgX3jP4xxJx+JqvM6KA==,US,,1484985864 108204908,108216038,2017-01-21 08:10:17,"refute this >>108204115 (you cant)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1484986217 108204908,108216886,2017-01-21 08:19:38,">>108216038 Refute that the people in pic related are Jewish? They are. You wanna look up the Jews in Hitler's administration for me? Or maybe take a look into the Fuhrer himself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1484986778 108204908,108218836,2017-01-21 08:39:20,,,Anonymous,snek (2).png,nADBWJ+GxgLqfIp15rtKKg==,US,,1484987960 108204908,108220749,2017-01-21 08:58:59,,,Anonymous,ancap (3).jpg,2erqFoRnh6YXAAwueHRKiw==,US,,1484989139 108334031,108334031,2017-01-21 21:03:59,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - ROADLESS EDITION part2 This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads. One of you greedy capitalist pigs have to buy this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191581560273?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true Why are you still a roadcuck /pol/?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - ROADLESS EDITION part2,Anonymous,Badge (7).png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,US,,1485032639 108334031,108334081,2017-01-21 21:04:22,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485032662 108334031,108334136,2017-01-21 21:04:43,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1485032683 108334031,108334505,2017-01-21 21:07:12,,,Anonymous,NAP.png,zgUjPINdbUPr0OMWG4yq2A==,US,,1485032832 108334031,108335046,2017-01-21 21:10:38,">>108334505 yeah that sounds pretty cool, wouldn't you agree?",,Anonymous,1484824855423.jpg,BPIws0FyxB8blyYXFIxKaw==,US,,1485033038 108334031,108336332,2017-01-21 21:18:20,">>108334031 Don't ever call me a roadcuck again. I AM NOT A ROADKEK.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485033500 108334031,108336675,2017-01-21 21:20:28,">>108336332 >kek newfag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485033628 108334031,108337969,2017-01-21 21:28:37,How do I deal with AntiFa getting in my face at Pro-Trump events? Is forming a human chain blocking my access to an event a violation of the NAP?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485034117 108334031,108338298,2017-01-21 21:30:41,">>108337969 not sure but remember, if you kill them, they can't sue for violating they're NAP! :·3",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1485034241 108334031,108338679,2017-01-21 21:32:59,">>108337969 Dude just kill them. the NAP doesn't apply to subhuman commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485034379 108334031,108338830,2017-01-21 21:33:46,What will the protectionism ushered in by Trump do to the economy?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485034426 108334031,108339171,2017-01-21 21:35:37,">>108338830 Either improve our economic might or start a war with China. Take your bets to my Bitcoin server.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485034537 108334031,108339744,2017-01-21 21:38:59,">>108334031 A truly free society cannot have roads of any kind. ""All roads lead to Rome"" The presence of roads naturally leads to the fall of the Republic and the rise of monarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485034739 108334031,108340174,2017-01-21 21:41:56,For anyone who's curious here's some hobbes quotes about roads,,Anonymous,hoppe roads.png,LsHOaXKzpeBkOVd4C9qP5Q==,US,,1485034916 108334031,108340477,2017-01-21 21:44:06,A system based on everyone allocating their resources according to pure self interest sounds really great considering all the problems with our current economies stem from people allocating their resources according to pure self interest.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1485035046 108334031,108340988,2017-01-21 21:47:19,">>108340477 >all the problems with our current economies stem from people allocating their resources according to pure self interest and what problems are those? just to make sure we are on the same page",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1485035239 108429480,108429480,2017-01-22 09:45:36,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j91yKSsFaw >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads. One of you greedy capitalist pigs have to buy this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191581560273?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true Hey /pol/ Whats your ideal for of goverment? http://www.strawpoll.me/12170352",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - ANGRY WHITE KIDS EDITION,Anonymous,badge (2).png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1485078336 108429480,108429509,2017-01-22 09:45:54,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485078354 108429480,108429560,2017-01-22 09:46:15,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1485078375 108429480,108429607,2017-01-22 09:46:41,Bumping for Rand,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485078401 108429480,108429655,2017-01-22 09:47:08,">>108429607 Oh shit that ID",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485078428 108429480,108429820,2017-01-22 09:48:53,">>108429655 you've been chosen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485078533 108429480,108430069,2017-01-22 09:51:15,">>108429655 KEkT and checked.",,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe_0.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1485078675 108429480,108430076,2017-01-22 09:51:20,">>108429655 Kek is among us!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485078680 108429480,108430171,2017-01-22 09:52:17,Kek confirmed for Ancap,,Anonymous,1482127806953.png,YTG2ydT+Ub3Brl3TPkxAcQ==,US,,1485078737 108429480,108430193,2017-01-22 09:52:29,">>108429820 >>108430069 >>108430076 I Hearbh declare myself the messiah of kek. My first prediction: If digits, Rand Paul wins the 2024 election",,Thrashfag,,,US,,1485078749 108429480,108430263,2017-01-22 09:53:16,">>108430193 you had to push it lol no rand for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485078796 108429480,108430542,2017-01-22 09:56:05,">>108430171 Roadlord reporting in. Just today rode today to market at the other point of the city. Hell, its like I really don't pay taxes there except that I do. Fuck that.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485078965 108429480,108430859,2017-01-22 09:59:08,I think I just found my new favorite general.,,Anonymous,ancap snake.jpg,YsKKyLYKCK0BSPWXlCieyQ==,US,,1485079148 108429480,108430917,2017-01-22 09:59:37,"GASS THE COMMIES TRUMP WAR NOW",,Anonymous,pinoche awooooo.jpg,rsW76pLZIwaumXtGYLZviQ==,US,,1485079177 108429480,108431026,2017-01-22 10:00:38,">>108429480 Nice badges m8. Could you make one with the text on pic related instead of /pol/?",,Anonymous,1477248616954.jpg,IFLfMlzg/FzMibnaN8gPfA==,PT,,1485079238 108429480,108431086,2017-01-22 10:01:07,">libertarians >the inconsistent ancaps",,Anonymous,1483704478200.jpg,SOw7K6U2FU1hz3ArJ9BNeg==,CA,,1485079267 108429480,108431321,2017-01-22 10:03:17,">>108431086 >a leaf is right about something oy vey",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485079397 108429480,108431459,2017-01-22 10:04:21,">>108431026 Will fucking do m8.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485079461 108429480,108431719,2017-01-22 10:06:40,">>108431459 Noice",,Anonymous,1324345508001.png,dG9b5hSGkBb6crhlhlZIzQ==,PT,,1485079600 108429480,108432144,2017-01-22 10:10:10,">>108431086 Bottom one is too small for me to read, but taxation is more like a racket than outright theft. In fact, almost every government action is a form of racketeering. At least we get to vote for who'll be the public face of such activity though ;^)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485079810 108429480,108432304,2017-01-22 10:11:16,">>108429480 Who have reached the fifth stage here",,Anonymous,image.jpg,0EScaGN/jQtjOokXdPan5w==,FR,,1485079876 108429480,108432499,2017-01-22 10:12:37,">>108432144 IF ANALYZED WITH A CRITICAL EYE-ONE WILING TO PUT ASIDE UNFOUNDED NOTIONS REGARDING THE PROPER ETHICA RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A PERSON AND THE GROUPS WHO HOLD POWER OVER SAID PERSON ONE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN PREVIOUSLY UNCONSIDERED NOTIONS ONE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT UNFLATTERING LABEL MIGHT BE FAIRLY LEVIED AGAINST UBIQUITOUS AND ANCHALLENGED ASPECT OF MODERN SOCIETY IT SHOULD BECOME IMMEDIATELY OBVIOUS TO THE IMPARTIAL OBSERVER TH THERE EXISTS AN UNSPOKEN EQUIVALENCY ONE THAT PAIRS TWO CONCEPTS OFTEN INCORRECTLY CONSIDERED TO BE ENTIRELY DISTINCT NOT JUST WITH RESPECT TO MORALITY BUT IN ALL CATEGORIESTHE FIRST LEMENT OF THIS PO DEAS IS THA OF EQU TARIFFS HE METHOD OF MONETARY ACCUMULATION THAT MOST EVERY DIVIDUALS HAS IMPLE GENERATE THEIR OWN INCOMES SUCH ACCUMULATION AS YOU SURELY KNOW IS NOT BASED ON CONSENTING PERSONS AGREEING TO SUBSIDIZE THE PUBLIC SERVICES SAID GROUP PROVIDES RATHER THOSE IN POWERVILL DEMAND CAPITAL WITH THE BACKING OF ARMED EMPLOYEES OF THE ELITES WERE AN INDIVIDUAL TO CHOOSE NOT TO PROVIDE CAPITAL SAID ELITES WOULD NOT MERELY DENY THE INDIVIDUAL THE BENEFITS OF THEIR SERVICES AS WOULD ANY PRIVATE GROUP IN A SIMILAR SCENARIO BUT WOULD UTILIZE THEIR ARMED EMPLOYEES AS EXTORTERS WITH THE NECESSITY OF THEIR ONE WISHES TO REMAIN ALIVE AND FREE THE SECOND ELEMENT OFOUR ILLUSTRATED EQUIVALENCY HAT OF HEISTS FIVE-FINGER TS RIP-OFFS STICKUPS BURGLARY ALL NAMES FOR THE SAME MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE CONCEPT YES THESE TWO IDEAS ARE IN FACT ONE AND THE SAME THINK ABOUT IT",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485079957 108429480,108432553,2017-01-22 10:13:06,">>108432304 Me. It's strangely liberating.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485079986 108429480,108432808,2017-01-22 10:15:09,">>108432304 floating between two and three >>108432499 what did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485080109 108429480,108433355,2017-01-22 10:19:19,">>108432808 that's what it says in the bottom panel",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485080359 108429480,108433467,2017-01-22 10:20:04,">>108429480 Bump",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1485080404 108429480,108433508,2017-01-22 10:20:25,">>108429480 Bump",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1485080425 108429480,108433839,2017-01-22 10:22:43,">>108433467 >>108433508 >mountain jew hivemind Memes aside though, I've heard people say Switzerland is one of the most libertarian countries in the western world. How accurate is this, what's it like there? I know very little about it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485080563 108429480,108433936,2017-01-22 10:23:29,">>108433839 This, I'm very curious.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485080609 108429480,108434222,2017-01-22 10:25:47,">>108432304 me. Feels like my political stance cannot progress anymore, this is the end.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1485080747 108429480,108434680,2017-01-22 10:29:30,">>108432304 anyone got good responses to the ""liberal responses"" in the pic?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485080970 108429480,108435043,2017-01-22 10:32:08,">>108429480 bump for road hating",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485081128 108429480,108435721,2017-01-22 10:37:25,">>108435043 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLEUX7ckqBQ >not having a society of autonomous individuals with their own roads that is until the free market provides us with flying cars and they become obsolete entirely",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485081445 108429480,108435915,2017-01-22 10:39:05,">>108433936 >>108433839 It's very true. The reason is of course historical - Switzerland was founded as a mutual protection agreement between local entities against French, Habsburgian and Italian interests. As such, the individualism and concern for its freedoms always had very high value here.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1485081545 108429480,108436090,2017-01-22 10:40:32,"If you believe in libertarianism I advise you to take a good dose of clorox, since you're too retarded to tie a knot to off yourself.",,Anonymous,1485033334381.png,UV0rK9sO6h2pK9u7tRevFQ==,PT,,1485081632 108429480,108436319,2017-01-22 10:42:30,">>108436090 > totalitariansim > corruption > not communism This is a joke, right?",,Anonymous,1482264910886.jpg,VrhrLw7Q+bPQfcFVIaYilw==,CH,,1485081750 108429480,108436336,2017-01-22 10:42:35,">>108436090 >portugal HUEHUEHUE GIBE GIBS WHITEY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485081755 108429480,108436432,2017-01-22 10:43:18,"I am so fucking proud that I alone made a Hoppe resurgence on this board. About fucking time we had material to counter the lolbertarian degenerates and the ""le roads"" sophists. Here, have the latest Hoppe. I'll begin dumping.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,ZzQt4mV0UBQStrESUoOc5Q==,PT,,1485081798 108429480,108436523,2017-01-22 10:43:55,">>108436090 >said the commie",,Anonymous,image.jpg,3ePHAOE0Nad7iFxfucz8nA==,FR,,1485081835 108429480,108436577,2017-01-22 10:44:16,"Also, OP consider putting this image in future posts because it's really important we get this message out",,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1485081856 108429480,108436634,2017-01-22 10:44:45,">>108436090 >wanting communism... I fail to see the communists issue with Libertarianism, there's nothing stopping you from forming a series of voluntary communist societies within a libertarian society, if it's really all it's cracked up to be you should be better off than everyone else.",,Anonymous,1479918322033.jpg,l/UIYUiATkU5tG0IojIEtA==,US,,1485081885 108429480,108436681,2017-01-22 10:45:08,,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1485081908 108429480,108436725,2017-01-22 10:45:25,">>108436319 Believe in a strong militaristic country with strong people and it will grow.",,Anonymous,stalin in a barbershop.png,4AkifgsRP1TcJjReyDRrTQ==,PT,,1485081925 108429480,108436740,2017-01-22 10:45:34,">>108436090 10/10 bait You have to be retarded or lying to make that post .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485081934 108429480,108436745,2017-01-22 10:45:36,,,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1485081936 108429480,108436803,2017-01-22 10:45:57,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1485081957 108429480,108436856,2017-01-22 10:46:23,">>108431026 I don't know If you wanted it white or the Offical Ancap Yellow™ so i rendered both",,Anonymous,DEMOSWINEWHITE.png,4HhHdXw2AeFV1RTlwcv2xQ==,US,,1485081983 108429480,108436905,2017-01-22 10:46:49,>>108431026,,Anonymous,DEMOSWINEYELLOW.png,MGVqfrHgxR3R056JJ327Ng==,US,,1485082009 108429480,108436955,2017-01-22 10:47:09,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1485082029 108429480,108437016,2017-01-22 10:47:37,"25/88 HEIL HOPPE",,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1485082057 108429480,108437039,2017-01-22 10:47:57,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1485082077 108429480,108437066,2017-01-22 10:48:09,">>108436090 I'm a fascist and I agree. Libertarian get thrown out of helicopters.",,Anonymous,1478393378542.gif,LSNrFOCgQvJqTlzEJDGE6w==,US,,1485082089 108429480,108437168,2017-01-22 10:48:57,We getting national capitalism in this or what?,,Anonymous,us}ncp1.gif,AhL6mGKU+VXckocuQ+ewLQ==,GB,,1485082137 108429480,108437173,2017-01-22 10:48:59,">>108436523 Keep those cherry picked proof coming, I'd like to see an idiot believe a functional non communist state.",,Anonymous,1484081632661.jpg,I/C3+vRkyPTakNZAkXiFvA==,PT,,1485082139 108429480,108437259,2017-01-22 10:49:38,">>108436725 > He's for real.",,Anonymous,smith.jpg,IILE/yONwebGH1RrOd7L5Q==,CH,,1485082178 108429480,108437276,2017-01-22 10:49:50,>>108429480,,Anonymous,capitalism 2.png,4YI48/IwYERt3m3gpJG4rg==,US,,1485082190 108429480,108437293,2017-01-22 10:50:01,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1485082201 108429480,108437373,2017-01-22 10:50:37,">>108437173 Keep believing that Soon the natural sélection will kill you",,Anonymous,image.jpg,pXmYJb21qmWqhQ3mxwOmRw==,FR,,1485082237 108429480,108437383,2017-01-22 10:50:43,">>108437173 >Communist >State pick one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485082243 108429480,108437403,2017-01-22 10:50:52,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1485082252 108429480,108437439,2017-01-22 10:51:12,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1485082272 108429480,108437445,2017-01-22 10:51:16,">>108434680 For number 2, it's a correlation vs causation fallacy. There are more examples of countries achieving things through low taxes than through high taxes. If anything, one could argue that Scandinavian countries would be even better if libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1485082276 108429480,108437480,2017-01-22 10:51:36,,,Anonymous,capitalism 4.jpg,XOpinRV0Ab1pd2XyRed8MA==,US,,1485082296 108429480,108437528,2017-01-22 10:51:59,">>108437173 But portocommie, such a state already exists and fuck off, we're full.",,Anonymous,1483283809290.jpg,pLOcW1T/vIbSdwEO1cg6JA==,CH,,1485082319 108429480,108437582,2017-01-22 10:52:25,"Give us some more Hans ""Throw them from the chopper"" Hoppe memes. They are golden.",,Anonymous,1484849836076.jpg,QXnKKlH6/OEU76my9xUz/A==,GB,,1485082345 108429480,108437587,2017-01-22 10:52:26,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1485082346 108429480,108437754,2017-01-22 10:53:41,">>108430193 REEEEEE!",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1485082421 108429480,108437773,2017-01-22 10:53:50,">>108436856 >>108436905 White works better because of the Hoppe pic. But I would prefer the way you usually do in the circle. Without the outline thing, circle all white and the text in black.",,Anonymous,1484824398556.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,PT,,1485082430 108429480,108437778,2017-01-22 10:53:51,">>108437582 I gotchu based ally",,Anonymous,hoppe bae_00000.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,PT,,1485082431 108429480,108437838,2017-01-22 10:54:17,">>108437480 Immigration happens because of shitty regulation so the white worker is not profitable for the companies,if we achieved total free trade with nigger countries they would be in a good financial situation and won't come in",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485082457 108429480,108437855,2017-01-22 10:54:23,>>108437582,,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1485082463 108429480,108437900,2017-01-22 10:54:42,">>108437016 Hoppe is a moron , go away , hue",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485082482 108429480,108437982,2017-01-22 10:55:11,">>108437582 2",,Anonymous,the family.jpg,pEgr2mcLJaMPJU5Jth4A4g==,PT,,1485082511 108429480,108438070,2017-01-22 10:55:54,">>108437900 >You check to see if you find arguments. >You find none. [CONTINUE]",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485082554 108429480,108438074,2017-01-22 10:55:56,"What about racional national socialism? We can all agree that nazisam is good in economic view but there are few things that are bad.. While raciomalisam respects all races Im in for that",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485082556 108429480,108438149,2017-01-22 10:56:33,">>108438074 >We can all agree that nazisam is good in economic view lol no",,Anonymous,when the communist slips off the helicopter.png,csW5xl6/mwctUz4fmIQwfg==,PT,,1485082593 108429480,108438219,2017-01-22 10:57:07,">>108436432 Very true compatriota.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485082627 108429480,108438223,2017-01-22 10:57:13,">>108437855 nice one fabio.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485082633 108429480,108438332,2017-01-22 10:58:11,">>108437982 Is that what ancapistan looks like?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485082691 108429480,108438339,2017-01-22 10:58:15,">>108436432 >>108436577 >>108436681 >>108436745 >>108436803 >>108436955 >>108437016 >>108437039 >>108437293 >>108437403 >>108437439 >>108437587 >>108437778 >>108437855 >>108438070 Get the fuck out you leftist lisboeta moor.",,Anonymous,just do it.jpg,9tDH+WPqy0TPYPCUXsjRtg==,PT,,1485082695 108429480,108438369,2017-01-22 10:58:25,">>108438074 > socialism > racialism is good > says the slav Top.",,Anonymous,1483813184812.jpg,ZkSMwWPwxL9wJZx1vNeSbA==,CH,,1485082705 108429480,108438384,2017-01-22 10:58:31,">>108438074 >all the economy is based on war YEAH no",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485082711 108429480,108438389,2017-01-22 10:58:33,>>108438223,,Anonymous,bpap.png,KuqDGVnKr+3cZqBZQqaUnQ==,PT,,1485082713 108429480,108438432,2017-01-22 10:58:56,">>108437773 Like this?",,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1485082736 108429480,108438482,2017-01-22 10:59:20,">>108438339 >Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Leftist >me >Lisboeta >moor Oh you!",,Anonymous,physically removed.png,6bYsvH56r0voOY/G7ic/pg==,PT,,1485082760 108429480,108438531,2017-01-22 10:59:42,">>108438149 Well Adolfin did get germany out of shity situation...",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485082782 108429480,108438586,2017-01-22 11:00:06,">>108438432 you might want to use a higher resolution image zoom Hoppe a bit out because that looks pixelated as hell",,Anonymous,P5260036-L.jpg,PDkoX4WoFLVVxTRBG3DdLQ==,PT,,1485082806 108429480,108438664,2017-01-22 11:00:41,">>108438432 Exactly! Thanks bro",,Anonymous,1482054027510.jpg,p4z6JWoI8sHd28wZPZ81Aw==,PT,,1485082841 108429480,108438725,2017-01-22 11:01:07,">>108438074 >National Socialism >Socialism >Good Economic View",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485082867 108429480,108438784,2017-01-22 11:01:38,Just found this lads.,,Anonymous,hoppe for dummies.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,GB,,1485082898 108429480,108438845,2017-01-22 11:02:09,">>108438531 And then sperged out against everyone and murdered millions of Europeans aka whites. And then ilegitimized all future white nationalist movements.",,Anonymous,physically removed 2.png,sONErO6I9N64VyGp7IkqkQ==,PT,,1485082929 108429480,108438893,2017-01-22 11:02:30,,,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1485082950 108429480,108438906,2017-01-22 11:02:33,">>108438586 Yeah i thought the image looked a bit low res but its the most iconic hoppe image unless you have a good one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485082953 108429480,108439030,2017-01-22 11:03:37,,,Anonymous,hoppe2.jpg,iCwFn2VLpIwPMP4W/nDGrw==,GB,,1485083017 108429480,108439066,2017-01-22 11:03:52,">>108432304 I skipped 3 and 4 and headed straight to 5",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485083032 108429480,108439106,2017-01-22 11:04:10,">>108438906 Perhaps this one can be used.",,Anonymous,hoppe-farsi-2016.jpg,I5wDeBm4O9Q/eTplLa2QFw==,PT,,1485083050 108429480,108439172,2017-01-22 11:04:42,">>108438906 https://nskinsella.smugmug.com/Computers/Hoppe-rotator/ You're welcome.",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1485083082 108429480,108439236,2017-01-22 11:05:06,">>108438845 Thats why racionalism is better... instead of being proud german you are proud human",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485083106 108429480,108439548,2017-01-22 11:07:29,">>108439236 lol no Read Democracy—The God That Failed. It contains the answers to your questions.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485083249 108429480,108439579,2017-01-22 11:07:44,Explain to me how libertarians prevent transhumanism?,,Anonymous,d4a2af8cfd7a9d0c75e459480425b8f2.jpg,qmOVdN5i7Ywb9rZ/qbBWKQ==,US,,1485083264 108429480,108439584,2017-01-22 11:07:47,wtf is going on in this thread with so many of us?,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485083267 108429480,108439593,2017-01-22 11:07:51,">>108438531 Confiscating rich peoples shit and redistribute it via social programs isn't exactly solving anything, neither is plundering Europe and selling it to us for forex (although I greatly appreciate it).",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1485083271 108429480,108439683,2017-01-22 11:08:32,,,Anonymous,hoppe curative.jpg,qZ/sjPZt+hKZ6xjhucjmhw==,GB,,1485083312 108429480,108439716,2017-01-22 11:08:45,">>108439106 I gave it a shot I had to stetch it a bit still tho",,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE (2).png,/ieMpSzPYwIb5gGR+6zPTw==,US,,1485083325 108429480,108439752,2017-01-22 11:09:00,">>108439548 This today isnt democracy that greeks imagned lol This is slavery... we only get to vote who do we want to be ruled by",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485083340 108429480,108439912,2017-01-22 11:10:02,"""Ideologically, the problem is liberalism which is imposed on Europe and the rest of humanity by the Anglo-Saxon world as the only unique and official ideology. Liberalism affirms only the individual identity and prohibits any kind of collective or organic identities. Thus, step by step, liberalism refuses religion, nation, gender, and belongingness in general in order to set the individual completely free from any kind of holism. A core political manifestation of this problem is gender, as liberals insist on the “optional nature” of gender and present it as an individual choice. Before, the liberal struggle was centered around the individual choice of religion or nationality, but now it has reached the point of gender. Yet another crucial problem is immigration. Refusing to acknowledge religious or cultural identities, or even gender-based identity, an immigrant is not considered to be a bearer of a different identity. Rather, he is just another atomic individual. Thus, liberalism destroys any sense of collective identity and, as logically follows, liberalism destroys European identity (with so-called tolerance and theories of human rights). Together with the intensive destruction of sexual identity, it accelerates the end of society as such. The very fact of accepting liberalism as the mainstream ideology guarantees the end of Europe itself. The final step in the development of liberalism will be the negation of the human identity as a collective one at all. Thus, trans-humanism will be welcomed as part of the liberal agenda for tomorrow."" http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/03/dugin-what-is-wrong-with-europe.html",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485083402 108429480,108439995,2017-01-22 11:10:38,">>108439584 We're going to do a coup on our government and install a Hoppean anarcho-capitalist NRx absolute monarchy. Have you been living under a rock?",,Anonymous,helicopter.png,wIxmmn+QFSYAExv43emNyw==,PT,,1485083438 108429480,108440008,2017-01-22 11:10:45,">>108436725 But you don't actually believe this right? Stalin one of the most brutal dictators of all time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485083445 108429480,108440013,2017-01-22 11:10:46,">>108439593 Socialism is when everyone is the same ... no one is rich or poor we are all equal",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485083446 108429480,108440073,2017-01-22 11:11:16,">>108439716 Kek looks funny, but that's about all. The other works much better imo. Appreciated tho",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485083476 108429480,108440506,2017-01-22 11:14:28,">>108439579 >>108439912 forgot to quote ""Ideologically, the problem is liberalism which is imposed on Europe and the rest of humanity by the Anglo-Saxon world as the only unique and official ideology. Liberalism affirms only the individual identity and prohibits any kind of collective or organic identities. Thus, step by step, liberalism refuses religion, nation, gender, and belongingness in general in order to set the individual completely free from any kind of holism. A core political manifestation of this problem is gender, as liberals insist on the “optional nature” of gender and present it as an individual choice. Before, the liberal struggle was centered around the individual choice of religion or nationality, but now it has reached the point of gender. Yet another crucial problem is immigration. Refusing to acknowledge religious or cultural identities, or even gender-based identity, an immigrant is not considered to be a bearer of a different identity. Rather, he is just another atomic individual. Thus, liberalism destroys any sense of collective identity and, as logically follows, liberalism destroys European identity (with so-called tolerance and theories of human rights). Together with the intensive destruction of sexual identity, it accelerates the end of society as such. The very fact of accepting liberalism as the mainstream ideology guarantees the end of Europe itself. The final step in the development of liberalism will be the negation of the human identity as a collective one at all. Thus, trans-humanism will be welcomed as part of the liberal agenda for tomorrow."" Alexander Dugin http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/03/dugin-what-is-wrong-with-europe.html",,Anonymous,1474220438255.jpg,je/NYD0ISprQdcnYkKXLJw==,PT,,1485083668 108429480,108440594,2017-01-22 11:15:09,“Egalitarianism leads to democracy; democracy leads to socialism; socialism leads to economic destruction; and democratic socialism in multicultural societies leads to death and democide.” - Hans-Hermann Hoppe,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485083709 108429480,108440725,2017-01-22 11:15:59,">>108439995 That's retarded. It would only transition the country even more to the left.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485083759 108429480,108440748,2017-01-22 11:16:08,">>108440013 Marx considered you and other backwater Slavic groups as ethnic trash and thought you'd need to be wiped out Hitler also had similar attitudes",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485083768 108429480,108440800,2017-01-22 11:16:26,">>108438531 Because Adolf got Germany into a shitload of debt and then declared war when it came due. The guy responsible for the recovery, Hjalmar Schacht, knew it was unsustainable in the long run.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485083786 108429480,108441119,2017-01-22 11:18:41,">>108440748 They did yes but they only thinked about them sellfs no one cares about others thats the problem... the problem is that people are mixing money with people I am not saying that everything is good in theyr ideas but there are good ones We just need to put bad ones aside",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485083921 108429480,108441343,2017-01-22 11:20:15,">>108440800 Where did he lown money lol? From brits? Oe french? That puted high war taxes on them after ww1 They wher alone... he made jobs for people",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485084015 108429480,108441557,2017-01-22 11:21:44,">>108440594 I think the main problem we observe in democratic socialism is genetic degredation The proliferation of the fat, the stupid, the weak I mean you just look around on the streets at the people walking around today, it's actually repulsive. These people can only exist in a comfortable society",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485084104 108429480,108441583,2017-01-22 11:22:00,">>108440013 > we are all equal We're not though.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1485084120 108429480,108441956,2017-01-22 11:24:32,">>108441119 Socialism is nothing but bad ideas, there is no good to be found in any of Marx's works nor any of the works of those inspired by him. All attempts to get to the communist utopia require either a superpowerful state which invades private communities and destroys them or subversive attempts to undermine them through culture like is happening now.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485084272 108429480,108442053,2017-01-22 11:25:09,">>108441343 >They were alone You sure about that? https://www.sott.net/article/298259-The-Americans-who-funded-Hitler-Nazis-German-economic-miracle-and-World-War-II There's plenty of material out there about it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485084309 108429480,108442157,2017-01-22 11:25:52,">>108440725 No it wouldn't. Monarchy, small government or anarcho capitalism bring cultural conservatism (aka cultural absolutism)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485084352 108429480,108442527,2017-01-22 11:28:35,bump for truth,,Anonymous,QSdabk0.png,6UClJaVAWpt9LGaFCRorJA==,US,,1485084515 108429480,108442626,2017-01-22 11:29:24,Taxation is theft,,Anonymous,taxation-is-theft-7.jpg,Wudj7SBO5RH7w57p3VXIBw==,US,,1485084564 108429480,108442826,2017-01-22 11:30:45,"Just got here, are there any highlights in this thread besides the shitposts of the Hoppean Portuguese lad?",,Anonymous,1484082949827.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,ES,,1485084645 108429480,108443145,2017-01-22 11:32:51,,,Anonymous,137042161345.jpg,MMqs9hNQnZVR3CqADnbn2g==,TR,,1485084771 108429480,108443274,2017-01-22 11:33:46,>captcha: 5050 road,,Anonymous,15317936_1185625421505775_1330841818728057929_n.png,gGLUgX3jP4xxJx+JqvM6KA==,US,,1485084826 108429480,108443388,2017-01-22 11:34:33,">>108442826 There's a Croatian with really bad English who I think we can redpill",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485084873 108429480,108443562,2017-01-22 11:35:44,>>108443145,,Anonymous,1439068544621.jpg,Ru9k0dcvmZ1POiggSlcQFw==,US,,1485084944 108429480,108444059,2017-01-22 11:39:27,,,Anonymous,15304301_1186965291371788_3912368800739376245_o.png,fkOiVW3aR6GavGK/h/NPUQ==,US,,1485085167 108429480,108444221,2017-01-22 11:40:30,">>108432304 m e e m",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485085230 108429480,108444334,2017-01-22 11:41:08,">>108442826 This tread is best when the opposition arrives. so maybe I should be more of a smug asshole in the op.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485085268 108429480,108444350,2017-01-22 11:41:19,Thoughts ?,,Anonymous,FIYOH.png,i42t2CuLMdSRTeeJtOyomw==,US,,1485085279 108429480,108444449,2017-01-22 11:42:03,">>108442626 Go live in a country without taxation, and paying your taxes is a choice. You ignorant child.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485085323 108429480,108445385,2017-01-22 11:48:21,Bump for more snake memes prese,,Anonymous,___1_Pol_in_one_picture.png,YVYe41zNT07hfgKQEznsYg==,US,,1485085701 108429480,108445556,2017-01-22 11:49:33,">>108444449 >Nobody forces you to live in little Italy and pay tribute to the Mafia",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1485085773 108429480,108445789,2017-01-22 11:51:20,Nice!,,Anonymous,1466545376703.jpg,WytOawrfGi1zRGJmtxCU9g==,US,,1485085880 108429480,108445924,2017-01-22 11:52:31,">>108440013 >socialism can't exist. exactly",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1485085951 108429480,108446101,2017-01-22 11:53:46,">>108442157 Large sudden political change towards something the country does not, as a whole, accept brings chaos which makes vocal political groups double down on their message and destabilize the country. What where you doing in 2011-2013?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485086026 108429480,108446592,2017-01-22 11:57:27,,,Anonymous,Hans Hermann Hoppe quote.png,fPmjsSemI7Uc+Q1B1hrhTw==,BE,,1485086247 108429480,108446670,2017-01-22 11:58:04,,,Anonymous,Etienne de la Boetie.jpg,2ccSH91UbpBZl7YvSCSb6A==,BE,,1485086284 108429480,108446720,2017-01-22 11:58:24,,,Anonymous,2nd Amendment flag.jpg,4N18PT8kUsqF2S7E5ieq9Q==,BE,,1485086304 108429480,108446824,2017-01-22 11:59:01,">>108429480 Holy shit, haven't seen one of these before, thanks anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485086341 108429480,108446835,2017-01-22 11:59:07,,,Anonymous,Citizen legion.jpg,FYhwK0RWgTIG+n3g/QOgHQ==,BE,,1485086347 108429480,108446985,2017-01-22 12:00:00,,,Anonymous,Ernst Jünger.jpg,uFiH3qd5Js+qCfae96+XUw==,BE,,1485086400 108429480,108447298,2017-01-22 12:02:01,,,Anonymous,Plough Jogger.jpg,lnqMyyTJ90tfZIjXEZXgmg==,BE,,1485086521 108429480,108447375,2017-01-22 12:02:28,,,Anonymous,Hans Hermann Hoppe memeing.jpg,WnHhljWcIZhgLq63GqR1SQ==,BE,,1485086548 108429480,108447460,2017-01-22 12:03:05,,,Anonymous,Aleksander Solzhenitsyn 3.jpg,UVDub9vGwi+4XSa1RSM4NA==,BE,,1485086585 108429480,108447562,2017-01-22 12:03:44,,,Anonymous,Alexis de Tocqueville- quote.png,qwhxBDGqdck1NKQZ4VQwDw==,BE,,1485086624 108429480,108447565,2017-01-22 12:03:44,">>108446101 It's just memes lad. Unfortunately.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485086624 108429480,108447706,2017-01-22 12:04:36,">>108436523 >le Cultural Marxist conspiracy meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485086676 108429480,108447810,2017-01-22 12:05:22,"Now, I don't know who this guy is, but I do know that he gave lots of people free airplane travels, and that's pretty nice.",,Anonymous,pinochet.jpg,BoSqtyoq+yGe+RLFZcaLfQ==,BR,,1485086722 108429480,108447838,2017-01-22 12:05:32,"CATHOLIC GENERAL >>108447023 >>108447023",,WOLFSHIEM,1444419948235-1.png,sa1yIqN/fB0bEhYNlZis/w==,US,,1485086732 108429480,108447889,2017-01-22 12:05:48,">>108447706 >he thinks it's just a meme",,Anonymous,1478086566470.jpg,rTi7oko6y93OtIvlInAMXw==,GB,,1485086748 108429480,108447915,2017-01-22 12:05:58,">>108436634 >Venezuela >communist wew lad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485086758 108429480,108447922,2017-01-22 12:06:00,,,Anonymous,Thomas Jefferson dependency quote.jpg,lkQPODz4koXss3Bnl0UfAg==,BE,,1485086760 108429480,108447999,2017-01-22 12:06:29,,,Anonymous,william-graham-sumner-660685.jpg,CfO6w81ThqTteNBDhxMafw==,BE,,1485086789 108429480,108448198,2017-01-22 12:07:56,,,Anonymous,Edward Abbey 3.jpg,XIOvyAuuv606e0T1Zga8QA==,BE,,1485086876 108429480,108448249,2017-01-22 12:08:16,Is this guy the best psychologist?,,Anonymous,leroge.jpg,ukrLYv75b4sgxkXXCAA+VQ==,BR,,1485086896 108429480,108448303,2017-01-22 12:08:38,,,Anonymous,fathers-wewarnedyou.jpg,AA1hODodrdA/tx10Giho8w==,BE,,1485086918 108429480,108448344,2017-01-22 12:09:01,,,Anonymous,Protect your liberty.jpg,LjC7k/3eq5W9nU3j5dvhyA==,BE,,1485086941 108429480,108448362,2017-01-22 12:09:09,">>108432304 I got there straight from socialist ideals to isolationist ancap, closed comunities is a must to gain and keep freedom I've never been conservative nor libertarian/minarchist beat that",,Anonymous,gxpqZ1kjiM_HhHTxgha0LK_GQxi744SMA1aPEwYHBSo.jpg,LcjRErIQGG1iAP75X2L5nQ==,ES,,1485086949 108429480,108448414,2017-01-22 12:09:29,,,Anonymous,Bastiat 2.jpg,ypOZUVM+b0ngFqrGw6EtZw==,BE,,1485086969 108429480,108448502,2017-01-22 12:10:06,,,Anonymous,Bastiat quotes.jpg,JUWP66IGSt4obHn4x/4GBA==,BE,,1485087006 108429480,108448702,2017-01-22 12:11:25,,,Anonymous,J. Gresham Machen 3.png,odnM0ACXfIXeqrT2mQeFZQ==,BE,,1485087085 108429480,108448739,2017-01-22 12:11:36,">>108440748 >Marx considered you and other backwater Slavic groups as ethnic trash and thought you'd need to be wiped out >Marx cared about ethnicity Nice meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485087096 108429480,108448938,2017-01-22 12:13:04,>>108443562,,Anonymous,FtpQNr92rgjpM7XB3nPLRVSLyAgxqXlE6hwXyBJ8r4Y.png,ti9mPewsWXGLUYCzZymXCQ==,US,,1485087184 108429480,108449104,2017-01-22 12:14:07,">>108429480 ITT: autistic pedophiles",,Anonymous,1484493518701.png,tQjhynGOGo+zNVNaiFt1Xg==,CA,,1485087247 108429480,108449122,2017-01-22 12:14:16,,,Anonymous,Aldous Huxley.jpg,TR1di8r4R6TudkFUAAyxjw==,BE,,1485087256 108429480,108449404,2017-01-22 12:16:23,,,Anonymous,Lord Acton.jpg,GNQ4wSVCddn2EClvDQ4V6w==,BE,,1485087383 108429480,108449570,2017-01-22 12:17:29,>>108449104,,Anonymous,NAP.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1485087449 108429480,108449727,2017-01-22 12:18:36,">>108449122 >implying this is not what we have",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1485087516 108429480,108449887,2017-01-22 12:19:45,">>108448739 >""The general war which will then break out will smash this Slav Sonderbund and wipe out all these petty hidebound nations, down to their very names. The next world war will result in the disappearance from the face of the earth not only of reactionary classes and dynasties, but also of entire reactionary peoples. And that, too, is a step forward.""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485087585 108429480,108449898,2017-01-22 12:19:53,"Repeating numbers remove all Ancaps to the gulag and make TRUE communism real. (Was never tried before.)",,Anonymous,1484144452508s.jpg,ngPfUwz90CS99RoBDPrQ+Q==,DE,,1485087593 108429480,108449915,2017-01-22 12:20:01,">>108449727 swiss talking about orwell distopia a swiss crying statism",,Anonymous,157.jpg,6eGXb1YWoTRMCIQE5RZQ5Q==,ES,,1485087601 108429480,108449949,2017-01-22 12:20:13,">>108449898 Re-roll",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485087613 108429480,108450214,2017-01-22 12:21:59,">>108449949 Nice self removal faggot",,Anonymous,1484833452921.jpg,gSLUPyGk4EjjP9qBGusafg==,US,,1485087719 108429480,108450387,2017-01-22 12:23:13,">>108450214 hahahaha le epik shitpost le XDD!!!!!!!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485087793 108429480,108450435,2017-01-22 12:23:30,">>108450214 Any numbers put you into the Gulag. Communism will prevail!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485087810 108429480,108450725,2017-01-22 12:25:36,">>108450387 >>108450435",,Anonymous,1484256248330.jpg,Grw9oJ1492NpHa45Q6f97g==,PT,,1485087936 108429480,108450792,2017-01-22 12:26:02,">>108449915 plenty of state control here mate.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1485087962 108429480,108451231,2017-01-22 12:29:08,">>108450792 I know, but man, rest is far worse",,Anonymous,mafia.jpg,1OJ2Gg/nwrACzLdItZqCxw==,ES,,1485088148 108429480,108452085,2017-01-22 12:35:40,">>108450435 >If we keep trying to destroy humanity is bound to work eventually",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485088540 108617593,108617593,2017-01-23 10:10:41,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - PUNKS NOT RED EDITION,Anonymous,Badge (11).png,KVDtOyxxpe5kskjV+69peg==,US,,1485166241 108617593,108617631,2017-01-23 10:11:00,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485166260 108617593,108617679,2017-01-23 10:11:21,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1485166281 108617593,108617724,2017-01-23 10:11:41,">>108617593 bump free brothers",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485166301 108617593,108618061,2017-01-23 10:14:34,,,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1485166474 108617593,108618987,2017-01-23 10:22:38,Bump for freedom and more faggot hating punk please,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485166958 108617593,108619435,2017-01-23 10:26:38,">>108618987 You like this crap? enjoy the smut peddlers they are rock n roll as fuck and they burn commies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzT5LkrCJcQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yjzp9UjWJQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt9__YskeLM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485167198 108617593,108620831,2017-01-23 10:39:00,">>108619435 Yeah that shits pretty cool. I always liked the punk sound but couldn't stand little whiny fags bitching about their parents.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485167940 108617593,108622560,2017-01-23 10:53:47,,,Anonymous,1473386329801.jpg,pktCg8SQmpYrdITB9pQAvA==,US,,1485168827 109813825,109813825,2017-01-29 10:02:33,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HRaZcxo8xQ >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads. I can't beleve this thing is still for sale. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191581560273?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true Hey /pol/ why can't Nat-Soc into economics?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - BACK WITH A BANG EDITION,Anonymous,Badge (1).png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,US,,1485684153 109813825,109813863,2017-01-29 10:02:50,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485684170 109813825,109813901,2017-01-29 10:03:11,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1485684191 109813825,109814361,2017-01-29 10:07:11,,,Anonymous,ancap_feels.jpg,l4zZJcJHht9muIwYwv/4EQ==,ES,,1485684431 109813825,109814550,2017-01-29 10:08:58,Do snakes get along well with frogs nowdays? Or how does it work?,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1485684538 109813825,109814784,2017-01-29 10:11:02,">>109814550 yeah we do get along. but we also like thos bants",,Anonymous,1484910414029s.jpg,ho+ZIR/Bx4Xlxmtn3LF1fA==,US,,1485684662 109813825,109814883,2017-01-29 10:12:00,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,ZzQt4mV0UBQStrESUoOc5Q==,PT,,1485684720 109813825,109814914,2017-01-29 10:12:20,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1485684740 109813825,109814935,2017-01-29 10:12:30,">>109814784 shit how did i get a thumbnail. anyone gotta full size?",,Anonymous,1484826605931s.jpg,DrH77ez2GTzR55PYQqOr6Q==,US,,1485684750 109813825,109815157,2017-01-29 10:14:23,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1485684863 109813825,109815304,2017-01-29 10:15:31,">>109814883 >conservatism >antiegalitarian",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485684931 109813825,109815327,2017-01-29 10:15:46,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1485684946 109813825,109815526,2017-01-29 10:17:17,">>109815304 Care to explain?",,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1485685037 109813825,109815588,2017-01-29 10:17:42,,,Anonymous,molydad.jpg,Me9PHikM1MqU8EOPg/i/QQ==,US,,1485685062 109813825,109815609,2017-01-29 10:17:51,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1485685071 109813825,109815711,2017-01-29 10:18:37,">>109814935 I made it bud",,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,ES,,1485685117 109813825,109815737,2017-01-29 10:18:48,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1485685128 109813825,109815772,2017-01-29 10:19:08,">>109815711 based",,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1485685148 109813825,109815842,2017-01-29 10:19:42,">>109815711 Thanks for your contribution senpai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485685182 109813825,109816187,2017-01-29 10:22:26,,,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1485685346 109813825,109816288,2017-01-29 10:23:30,,,Anonymous,libertarian.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,HR,,1485685410 109813825,109816383,2017-01-29 10:24:12,">>109816288 >88 HEIL HOPPE",,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1485685452 109813825,109817866,2017-01-29 10:37:26,,,Anonymous,1484507268099.jpg,1YdMrj8/omKItN/SUl4miQ==,US,,1485686246 109813825,109818568,2017-01-29 10:43:28,just baked this,,Anonymous,helicopters_ready.jpg,612ThCvYQqiYZFlZkoKeHA==,ES,,1485686608 109813825,109818750,2017-01-29 10:44:57,,,Anonymous,ancapWorld.png,8mjY6VdASZ6qBPutezlyAA==,US,,1485686697 109813825,109818857,2017-01-29 10:45:49,"So let me ask you guys something. I am a Libertarian at the very core but I know this approach isn't practical since neither Democrats nor Republicans like Libertarian values...but the reality is that libertarians have more in common with Republicans than Democrats, so is it acceptable to vote republican even if you disagree with a lot of their stance on things? This is kind of my theory on the current political mess. I really believe most ""red pilled"" people are libertarians at heart but the democrats are so fucking stupid that the only reasonable approach for us is to vote republican",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485686749 109813825,109818932,2017-01-29 10:46:30,,,Anonymous,ert97XY.png,eL5Ykd07Wwp0/1OTsqcvFA==,US,,1485686790 109813825,109819019,2017-01-29 10:47:15,">>109818857 You should vote for people who will reduce government, that's it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485686835 109813825,109819129,2017-01-29 10:48:15,">>109818857 I agree with that man. shit many libertarians run as republicans because libertarian party is so cringe and fringe.",,Anonymous,snek (1).jpg,pz1AlTRxS+ILFG8xjn+G0Q==,US,,1485686895 109813825,109819165,2017-01-29 10:48:35,extended version,,Anonymous,C2iM7cwUcAAqZ4Z.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,ES,,1485686915 109813825,109819208,2017-01-29 10:48:56,">>109813825 Daily reminder that if you aren't a Hoppean, you are a cuck.",,Anonymous,score.png,h0TmFiUUgIJTtDYWgR1EiA==,US,,1485686936 109813825,109819255,2017-01-29 10:49:23,">>109813825 Can we please just agree open borders are retarded. A free society won't stay free very long when full of authoritarian Muslims and welfare loving beaners. If not then I'm officially Paleocon.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485686963 109813825,109819353,2017-01-29 10:50:17,">>109819208 Agreed. Link to the test please?",,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1485687017 109813825,109819465,2017-01-29 10:51:14,">>109819255 of course we can have borders. When we physically remove commies we have to put them somewhere. why not outside my walls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485687074 109813825,109819559,2017-01-29 10:52:07,">>109819165 ooh now thats a keeper.",,Anonymous,snek (3).jpg,qI4f6Ferw3nBlR/ikdhlXA==,US,,1485687127 109813825,109819633,2017-01-29 10:52:47,">>109818857 only autistic ancaps are gonna complain about that, truth is, we're slaves and voting is like playing SAW's games to save yourself, there's no room for muh perfect principles when you're a victim, not everyone can afford the cost when I have more gold I'll vote commies, to troll on my surroundings and tell them about my plan to profit from their destruction of civilization",,Anonymous,YNaNb11.jpg,BmxXwquOXQHCC2ea+xTOZw==,ES,,1485687167 109813825,109819658,2017-01-29 10:52:58,">>109813825 >being a cuckservative You people make me sick. You'd happily see whites reduced to a minority in every country if it meant you get to hang on to a few more sheckles each year.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485687178 109813825,109819935,2017-01-29 10:55:28,>>109819658,,Anonymous,1470575499643.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,DE,,1485687328 109813825,109819962,2017-01-29 10:55:40,">>109819658 If you believe the white race is truly superior then they will come out on top.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485687340 109813825,109820447,2017-01-29 10:59:34,">>109819658 And yet white people were most prosperous when we had private property rights which included the right to disassociate from minorities and other cultures. Not to mention that multiculturalism as we know it (cultural enrichment) only came about after governments increased their powers and deteriorated the traditional natural hierarchies of kinship and association. Great post not-so-greatest ally, really gets the noggin' joggin'.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1485687574 109813825,109820647,2017-01-29 11:01:19,">>109819353 >only 30 Qs >only Y/N/M Try to be truthful. A more nuanced test needs to be made.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485687679 109813825,109821439,2017-01-29 11:07:41,">>109820647 I didn't understand your comment. Please link me to the test senpai.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485688061 109813825,109821615,2017-01-29 11:08:59,Socialist her; been here since /new. I have missed you libertarians so so much. These kiddo fascists are retarded.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485688139 109813825,109821692,2017-01-29 11:09:33,ANCAPS BTFO,,Anonymous,001.png,qaXgpjxnakfktMxs2y+0Fg==,NL,,1485688173 109813825,109822380,2017-01-29 11:14:32,">>109821615 >>109821692 you have to go back. fascists are cooler than you.",,Anonymous,1484833452921.jpg,gSLUPyGk4EjjP9qBGusafg==,US,,1485688472 109813825,109822477,2017-01-29 11:15:12,">>109822380 I am one though",,Anonymous,request27.0.png,O/TZnSN1bmaFxdqXFnqyxA==,NL,,1485688512 109813825,109822880,2017-01-29 11:18:30,">>109822477 you call that aesthetic? you can't just put a purple vhs filter on already existing art and think you're cool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485688710 109813825,109823073,2017-01-29 11:20:13,">>109822380 The red and white are inverted on that flag tho",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1485688813 109813825,109823095,2017-01-29 11:20:22,">>109822880 You think making baddly drawn snake memes and drinken jewish semen is cool? Dont make me laugh",,Anonymous,facist_italy.jpg,iBEg2R27LpUmdn90yjxcwg==,NL,,1485688822 109813825,109823239,2017-01-29 11:21:25,Libertarianism doesn't work when it has to fight against the authoritarian left.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485688885 109813825,109823624,2017-01-29 11:24:17,">>109821692 This is bullshit. I fucked for $10 in Cuba. Anal included. Some white bitches want $100",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1485689057 109813825,109825997,2017-01-29 11:43:02,">>109819129 Yeah how the fuck that retard Gary Johnson got nomination? I mean cmon he probably has brain damage or something. This could have been historical chance for libertarians during this giant douche and turd sandwich election...",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1485690182 109813825,109826237,2017-01-29 11:44:44,">>109825997 Because of this.",,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1485690284 109813825,109826239,2017-01-29 11:44:46,I recommend Liberalism for the reading list. It is a great read and full of good quotes.,,Anonymous,1111.jpg,tJE/d7UlJb21YoqjxK/0mA==,NL,,1485690286 109813825,109826393,2017-01-29 11:45:58,">>109823095 How did that Fascism work out for Itlay?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485690358 109813825,109826450,2017-01-29 11:46:23,">>109813901 Hoppe is the best example of the massive self reductio ad absurdum that the right libertarian movement has now become. Is the radical centre welcome here?",,Anonymous,henry-george-7.jpg,LXHjXkUDKADWY/qsvUtf8A==,GB,,1485690383 109813825,109826590,2017-01-29 11:47:31,">>109826393 It went well",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485690451 109813825,109826752,2017-01-29 11:48:58,">>109826450 >Hoppe is the best example of the massive self reductio ad absurdum that the right libertarian movement has now become. What do you mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485690538 109813825,109826930,2017-01-29 11:50:19,">>109826450 >radical centre wut?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1485690619 109813825,109827208,2017-01-29 11:52:30,">>109826450 >>109819559 explain yourself ""radical centrist""",,Anonymous,Maury.png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1485690750 109813825,109827436,2017-01-29 11:54:11,">>109825997 implying the libertarian party isn't a plot of intelligence services to keep the bigger risk of the state in check",,Anonymous,C2vS00iUsAE86Yf.jpg,18Wl0OHTU96S+XteDKTLGw==,ES,,1485690851 109813825,109827592,2017-01-29 11:55:15,ancap is gay tho anon.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485690915 109813825,109827839,2017-01-29 11:56:52,">>109814361 REEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485691012 109813825,109828000,2017-01-29 11:57:54,"daily reminder that future society is libertarian, without subhumans who are unable to survive on their own",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485691074 109813825,109828032,2017-01-29 11:58:06,">tfw when when no true Libertarian party in UK politics There are no political parties in the UK which represent my Libertarian views, lads. Maybe I should start one...",,Anonymous,sad_pepe.jpg,lvWQhN/CXx/Gosb+4GufGg==,GB,,1485691086 109813825,109828257,2017-01-29 11:59:45,">>109826752 The natural progression of the Hoppean treatment of land is no different from statism. All land will eventually be someone's property, you get born there, and then you have to live under their rules, taxation or whatever unless you want to face their arbitrary punishment >>109826930 >>109827208 I am a right libertarian in every regard minus the fact that I think land acqusition has to obey the Lockean proviso, i.e. you can't acquire so much land that it makes it impossible for others to acquire land. I fail to see how the world right Libertarians end up with is any different from regular statism otherwise",,Anonymous,1479813434720.jpg,snRv8Xt7apslchWuvHjQOA==,GB,,1485691185 109813825,109828259,2017-01-29 11:59:47,">>109823624 why would you do that why did you want super herpesgonosyhpilaids with a side of crabs?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485691187 109813825,109828685,2017-01-29 12:02:48,">>109828032 it would be extremely difficult to get democratically elected into any position of power tech and people's behaviour will bring about the real change with the growth of digital economy skirting both the established state wealth redistribution schemes and kike banking systems; this will annihalate state budgets and leave no choice other than accept people's will",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485691368 109813825,109828859,2017-01-29 12:04:01,">>109828685 Hello, Mr. Tucker.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485691441 109813825,109828969,2017-01-29 12:04:49,">>109828859 >Mr. Tucker pls elaborate",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485691489 109813825,109830428,2017-01-29 12:15:20,">>109828257 >you can't acquire so much land that it makes it impossible for others to acquire land there is absolutely no way to enforce this, as seen time and time again, for example with tax collection i.e. those with means and sufficient mental capacity ALWAYS find a way of getting out of various taxes (shell companies, offshoring, transfer of ownership, creative accounting...) having some arbitrary limit for land ownership would play out in exact same way, therefore any such legislation would be flawed and unenforcable in the real world even with the official records being in order",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485692120 109813825,109831612,2017-01-29 12:23:51,">>109813825 >be CURRENTYEAR >still thinking unrestrained social liberalism and free movement of people doesn't ultimately destroy liberty for hist nation Libertarianism is unrealistic. Take the paleocon pill boys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485692631 109813825,109831782,2017-01-29 12:25:03,">>109817866 >USA for democracy >""Tyranny of the majority!"" what are you a retard or something? Do you not realize America is NOT a direct democracy? And that our entire system is this carefully crafted government to ensure no one holds too much power? Why do you think democrats were bitching about ""b-but hillary won the popular vote!"" all this time?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485692703 109813825,109831932,2017-01-29 12:26:05,">>109830428 I might as well by the same token argue that it's impossible to enforce a prohibition on violence, so we should just abandon the libertarian project entirely and resort to nihilistic survival of the fittest anarchism because ""people are too smart""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485692765 109813825,109832294,2017-01-29 12:28:27,">>109831612 Chill dude, it's just a plant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485692907 109813825,109832677,2017-01-29 12:31:03,>>109828032,,Anonymous,1484702504655s.jpg,uZgjpI1iQy2kQSfn0+qGLw==,US,,1485693063 109813825,109833144,2017-01-29 12:34:19,">>109831932 I'm being realistic: when people are faced with two choices, one being to enjoy 100% of the fruits of their labour and other to enjoy 50% of the same but with unsustainable and unrealistic promises of some ""rights"" like healthcare and pensions, only rational choice is the former violence is easily self-regulated by having everyone armed I wouldn't have anarchy as such but leave all branches of power in the hands of the local community; this way we'd have many competing communities that are organized in harmony with their members I'm sure that in case of security threats from outsiders, communities would unite in matters of defense, on top of citizen militia",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485693259 109813825,109833159,2017-01-29 12:34:25,">>109828032 Go for it. But I think the main problem is europeans tend to be more group thinking as opposed to the individualistic americans. I admit Im talking out of my ass here, but it seems every european is either some for of ""suffer for the will of the party!"" communist/socialist or just a mirror version of that in the form of neo-fascist.",,Anonymous,1485521351811.jpg,DN9smfZm+iqkZiZynzkaOA==,US,,1485693265 109813825,109833485,2017-01-29 12:36:55,">>109833159 I wouldn't say that, commonly found special snowflakes are highly individualistic and social media whoring suggests that this is the new normal",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485693415 109813825,109833597,2017-01-29 12:37:50,">>109813825 Why do people like Bill Maher claim to be Lobertarian when he is a socialist who wants gun regulations. Taxation is theft.",,Anonymous,1485672028137.png,IvY6NkPaqnsjE+EObwR9Bg==,US,,1485693470 109813825,109833786,2017-01-29 12:39:17,I like you lads even though I obviously don't hsare most of your beliefs.,,Anonymous,muh compass.png,lJ/nS/rfGojc/YrkTwG+xw==,BG,,1485693557 109813825,109834069,2017-01-29 12:41:27,">>109833597 Liberals have an identity crisis between being libertarians or socialists. They just don't know who they are. >>109833786 you're cool with me as long as you remove commies and let me inject weed.",,Anonymous,My_Evolution.jpg,1RCbP0/8BO5ZBtY5cMODSw==,US,,1485693687 109813825,109834083,2017-01-29 12:41:34,">>109828969 Jeffrey Tucker, the bow-tie wearing guy from Mises. He's the Internet tech specialist of the place.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485693694 109813825,109834430,2017-01-29 12:43:47,">>109833597 ""Libertarian"" was a cool buzzword around '08. And in defense of Maher, he is at least somewhat more ""libertarian"" than other democrats. Hes totally against PC culture, calls out islam all the time, and even calls out gun grabbers and proudly says he owns a gun.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485693827 109813825,109834431,2017-01-29 12:43:47,">>109834069 Yeah it's funny how the blue and purple squares are the only ones who mutually get along.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1485693827 109813825,109836179,2017-01-29 12:54:24,">>109834430 Maher stills plays with Identity politics so he is responsible for the lefts behavior. Anyone can criticize Islam but you won't see Maher criticize Israel / Zionism. >>109834069 Liberals are mentally ill.",,Anonymous,S O O N ~ awoooo.jpg,rsW76pLZIwaumXtGYLZviQ==,US,,1485694464 109813825,109836987,2017-01-29 12:59:19,">>109813863 thanks for the links OP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485694759 109813825,109837612,2017-01-29 13:03:04,"What do you guys think of Enoch Powell? He had a sort of ""libertarian/nationalist"" type of view, if such a thing exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485694984 109813825,109837638,2017-01-29 13:03:15,">Lolbertarians thinking their system is sustainable. Good people create good times. Good times create weak people Weak people create hard times Hard times create weak people. Libertarians allow this cycle to continue which causes political instability. Only NatSoc/Fascism has actually tried to combat this and create a strong people that can maintain a strong world. All problems with the world lie within weak people not inherently in systems themselves. Perhaps one day being Libertarian will be probable however that can only come after we properly combat the degradation of society through NatSoc.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1485694995 109813825,109837797,2017-01-29 13:04:18,">>109837638 *Hard times create good people",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1485695058 109813825,109838306,2017-01-29 13:07:09,">>109837638 cringed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485695229 109813825,109838749,2017-01-29 13:09:43,">>109819633 >when I have more gold I'll vote commies, to troll on my surroundings and tell them about my plan to profit from their destruction of civilization same reason im pro catalonia's independence",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1485695383 109813825,109839089,2017-01-29 13:11:39,">>109837638 were you bullied in your adolescence and feel the urge to command and control everyone's life because your pussy self couldn't/wouldn't enjoy your freedoms so noone should?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485695499 109813825,109839393,2017-01-29 13:13:21,">>109828257 > All land will eventually be someone's property > r > g t. Piketty",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1485695601 109813825,109839478,2017-01-29 13:13:45,https://youtu.be/kXEwaKL6vWo,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485695625 109813825,109839540,2017-01-29 13:14:06,">>109839089 >the freedom to do harm is good",,Anonymous,Goodjokejackass_de3baeb7456b4faf37a5cf661562f237.gif,GDs415pDYJfNB4H+jVC5zA==,NL,,1485695646 109813825,109840137,2017-01-29 13:17:06,">>109839540 what harm? what am I missing here? personal freedom comes with personal responsibility; if your choices bring you harm I might feel sorry for you, perhaps even help but I don't want to be responsible for the cleanup/footing the bill",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485695826 109813825,109840523,2017-01-29 13:19:19,">>109840137 And if your choises bring me harm? >inb4 nap",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485695959 109813825,109840785,2017-01-29 13:20:46,">>109840523 then you defend yourself dingus.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485696046 109813825,109840971,2017-01-29 13:21:46,">>109840523 you mean my choice to take care of my business and noone else's unless we mutually and voluntarily agree to do x? how would that bring you harm?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485696106 109813825,109841015,2017-01-29 13:21:59,dump sneks,,Anonymous,1459668196499.jpg,SkyLBHzBJeyFvOuekNwBMA==,US,,1485696119 109813825,109841078,2017-01-29 13:22:18,,,Anonymous,1460911666739.png,XXiYmC/lR/O3sjID5hCe/Q==,US,,1485696138 109813825,109841143,2017-01-29 13:22:38,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0u09kPK_-Y this shit is hilarious, they've put together an ancap, and to bank thieves to give a talk to antifa fucking gold, the madman is teaching economy on enemy territory",,Anonymous,Sin-título-1.jpg,brcw3ID6bYscwe9JPA/Uzw==,ES,,1485696158 109813825,109841217,2017-01-29 13:23:00,">>109817866 What about Libertarian Fascism?",,Anonymous,request__libertarian_fascism_by_americansfr-d8actxl.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,US,,1485696180 109813825,109841219,2017-01-29 13:23:00,,,Anonymous,1465110864690.jpg,Urw/nuRXLYV4CEHcOkvd1g==,US,,1485696180 109813825,109841310,2017-01-29 13:23:30,,,Anonymous,1459154840681.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,US,,1485696210 109813825,109841397,2017-01-29 13:23:57,,,Anonymous,1484011201968.gif,trpQvlDN8BVRU+FlV87pfQ==,US,,1485696237 109813825,109841520,2017-01-29 13:24:41,">>109841219 Fucking kek",,YUNG DON J 2017 ボモㄓヂプゔ,,,DE,,1485696281 109813825,109841637,2017-01-29 13:25:17,,,Anonymous,1465413926468.jpg,gHcT30Zl0NxQsvLHn9S1GA==,US,,1485696317 109813825,109841971,2017-01-29 13:27:09,,,Anonymous,1479992452663.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1485696429 109813825,109842131,2017-01-29 13:28:01,,,Anonymous,1481417153561.jpg,zSGrrfGoJ8BV2QzgkIV+TQ==,US,,1485696481 109813825,109842302,2017-01-29 13:28:55,,,Anonymous,1459669923194.jpg,soCfHvigwCv0c3JplFFaRw==,US,,1485696535 109813825,109842456,2017-01-29 13:29:41,,,Anonymous,1462810640644.png,XhIOnn4O+/acQyLiPaPGsQ==,US,,1485696581 109813825,109842521,2017-01-29 13:30:02,,,Anonymous,1479801887508.png,r8bDNW81yvzVQoyyIewyTg==,US,,1485696602 109813825,109842741,2017-01-29 13:31:15,>>109813825,,Anonymous,1474112220591.jpg,T64KL89oh+sSnd8GRCuTIw==,US,,1485696675 109813825,109843829,2017-01-29 13:37:33,">>109840785 >>109840971 Reallu concincing stuff guys, which intelectual titan came up with this. A few more questions. 1. Who builds da roads 2. Who defends the nation 3. How do you stop degeneracy (pic related)",,Anonymous,50_shades_of_trans.jpg,ny2qRb23YD9x8k7ooPzDjw==,NL,,1485697053 109813825,109844218,2017-01-29 13:39:48,">>109843829 >How do you stop degeneracy You have a culture that shames them. People are going to make fun of people regardless of who they are.",,Anonymous,ANTIFA WAIFU .jpg,TXowqPwk4G1ymU+Y2JywEg==,US,,1485697188 109813825,109844899,2017-01-29 13:43:23,">>109843829 1. roads pop up where they are needed, local community makes it so becuse it benefits them; when there's no agreement, use pic related 2. everyone is armed, there are no offensive forces going to die for goy reasons, only defensive collective righteous wrath with no geneva conventions involved 3. degeneracy is a luxury enabled by current state wealth redistribution shemes (free hormones, contraceptives, abortions, junkie needles etc)",,Anonymous,checkmate statists.jpg,P4q7monDEZnd09AyeXrUAg==,SI,,1485697403 109813825,109845125,2017-01-29 13:44:37,">>109813825 you are doing gods work son. we need to denazify this place. we need to spread the good word of capitalism, monarchism and other goodnesses.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1485697477 109813825,109845250,2017-01-29 13:45:20,">>109828032 ukip?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1485697520 109813825,109846042,2017-01-29 13:50:01,">>109843829 >Who builds da roads >Who defends the nation probably the state. libertarianism is an umbrella term, not everyone is an anarcho capitalist. >How do you stop degeneracy (pic related) well thats the best part. it dies it self, with no force required.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1485697801 109813825,109847475,2017-01-29 13:58:46,">>109844899 >roads pop up where they are needed Who will decide who gets to drive on those roads? Having toll stations every kilometer does not sound effecient >everyone is armed Just shoot a nuclear warhead out of the sky with your nagant, ok >>109844899 And if it still remains?",,Anonymous,1349794577097.jpg,gejm/l72DVeS3kLnh0a3oQ==,NL,,1485698326 109813825,109847701,2017-01-29 14:00:03,">>109813825 NO ROADS O R O A D S O A D S",,Anonymous,1485649835166.png,iRtAPslcPOe4YFb7Wrov8Q==,US,,1485698403 109813825,109848895,2017-01-29 14:07:34,">>109813825 bump",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485698854 109813825,109849773,2017-01-29 14:12:45,">No or total shit roads >Freedom to inject heroin and Marijuana into your third transexuals ""wifes"" penis. >Freedom to import cheap labor >No national monuments since they need state tax money to keep them running now and half the time their almost falling over >No State Police force enjoy your bronze Police badges that don't cover Murder >No anti corporate measures, enjoy Jew rule and mcdonalds mchouse mchospital mcroad mcguns and mctelephone >Freedom to be a degenerate and let your fellow countrymen starve because fuck helping out my fellow man I lose a bit of my money Rubbing hands.jpg the ideology along with Marxism",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1485699165 109813825,109850047,2017-01-29 14:14:20,">>109818568 >>109819165 Is the yellow-banded poison dart frog the perfect symbol for right libertarianism? >Even better for the ""Don't Tread on Me"" analogy than the snek: just touching the frog can kill you >Yellow and black: the colors of libertarianism >cute >Bonus: frogs of a different color are also a symbol of 4chan/the alt right",,Anonymous,Capture.jpg,JWq3PG1OWEKDQkEGW2cHoQ==,US,,1485699260 109813825,109850052,2017-01-29 14:14:23,">>109847475 your replies read like they're from someone who believes they hold any say in authoritarian decisionmaking by his so-called representatives the owner of the road weighs between max price people would be willing to pay and costs for maintenance and reaching the initial ROI, same shit happens across Europe with highways and many states tax registered vehicles for annual road network contributions nuclear war is passe and indefensible unless you're buying into interceptor missiles having any chance in neutralizing a massive amount of incoming MIRVs about to fuck shit up I have nothing against degeneracy per se; do whatever but don't cry to me about the consequences; it's the fear of consequences that keep people out of degeneracy and that fear would be palpable in a libertarian society of whatever flavour",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485699263 109813825,109850644,2017-01-29 14:17:58,,,Anonymous,56155464.jpg,ytkF/rjV+BGegSuvui/+KQ==,LT,,1485699478 109813825,109851185,2017-01-29 14:21:03,">>109813825 Keep up the good work /bro/",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485699663 109813825,109852989,2017-01-29 14:31:35,">>109850052 >same shit happens across europa with highways an many states tax registered vehicles Taxation is theft innit. Also isnt forcing people to pay a toll a micro agression? Well a nuclear holocaust it is, the ancap superstate lasted 18 minutes. Good run chaps >tfw you will never live in a nuclear wasteland selling crack cocaine to infants to finance your human breeding farm and sell the kids as slaves only to reap their organs when they grow up Ill pass guys",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485700295 109813825,109853600,2017-01-29 14:35:05,">>109852989 >Ill pass guys you don't get to choose, this is your future",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1485700505 109813825,109853706,2017-01-29 14:35:35,">>109821692 NAP violated.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1485700535 109813825,109853961,2017-01-29 14:37:16,">>109832677 They are in the wrong order you fucking idiot.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1485700636 109813825,109853992,2017-01-29 14:37:27,">>109821692 prostitution should be legal though like it was in the wild west",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485700647 109813825,109854158,2017-01-29 14:38:20,">>109819208 Can someone PLEASE link me to this test?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485700700 109813825,109854360,2017-01-29 14:39:27,">>109850047 yeh, they're deadlier than sneks we need to find a bee dart frog doing REEE so meme magic can happen",,Anonymous,1485335137800.png,f3CVF7R7h6uAaprf2ry5rw==,ES,,1485700767 109813825,109855010,2017-01-29 14:43:15,remember Kek's will is ancap not natsoc,,Anonymous,rareancappepe.jpg,qBwi9ZVKouYXWswLiRC4Zg==,GB,,1485700995 109813825,109855389,2017-01-29 14:45:20,,,Anonymous,bpap.png,KuqDGVnKr+3cZqBZQqaUnQ==,PT,,1485701120 109813825,109855443,2017-01-29 14:45:39,">>109855010 Yes good goy, give me control of everything. If you work hard I might give you an extra shekel. Just as long as your not a nazi with morals and Pride in your nation and race.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1485701139 109813825,109855516,2017-01-29 14:46:06,">>109855010 Reminder that in the ancient kek legend, his male form is a frog and female form is a snake",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485701166 109813825,109855577,2017-01-29 14:46:29,,,Anonymous,hoppe bae_00000.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,PT,,1485701189 109813825,109856324,2017-01-29 14:51:07,">>109855443 One should be proud of their own actions not those of their ancestors. If your race or nation is great it was because of certain individuals that achieved greatness.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485701467 109813825,109856565,2017-01-29 14:52:43,Difference between Hoppe's libertarianism and NatSoc?,,Anonymous,1485070800402.jpg,3Rx0txj7/Eq3D1Ows5iCdA==,US,,1485701563 109813825,109857267,2017-01-29 14:56:58,">>109856324 Certain individuals acting under the banner of your nation and race. >Being proud of your past soldiers or your Grandfathers war medals is bad >Having pride in your country is bad because you didn't do it. Spoken like a true globalist cuck. >>109856565 Libertarianism is pro degeneracy, you cannot have muh freedom and no degeneracy Libertarianism and no degeneracy is about as feasible as Socialism and Communism",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1485701818 109813825,109857552,2017-01-29 14:58:45,">>109856565 NatSoc: >state coercion for everyone to fit into a determined social hierarchy >property expropriation (state-guided economy + public property + overseeing of what is produced) >income redistribution >welfare state Hoppe libertarianism: >no state coercion >full-fledged private property rights >freedom of association and disassociation >private property covenants >no welfare state >no income redistribution >no public property so no property conflicts or allowing foreigners into the country >fully-privatized economy (laissez-faire capitalism) >no state-enforced moralities or hierarchies, only the hierarchies and moralities which are outgrowths of the ""natural order"" of things and are compatible with a private property, no welfare society (patriarchal society, traditional morality, low time preference, civilized conduct)",,Anonymous,when the communist slips off the helicopter.png,csW5xl6/mwctUz4fmIQwfg==,PT,,1485701925 109813825,109858208,2017-01-29 15:02:49,">>109854360 top snek, keep up the good work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485702169 109813825,109858477,2017-01-29 15:04:39,">>109813825 >removal of communist fags from our board of peace. Listening. That is a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1485702279 109813825,109858996,2017-01-29 15:07:44,">>109851185 I remember you from previous libertarian threads, Sloveniabro. We don't agree on everything, but i appreciate your posts. Also, for all those ""lolbertarians and muh roads posts"", a small FAQ: > Who will build the roads? Most mainstream libertarians who aren't actually just larping around agree that some degree of state/republican government intervention is a must have in our day and age. We just can't agree with reducing people to the literal cattle by welfare policies and domination of state everywhere. So some crucial roads/infrastructure will be maintained via taxes (inb4 theft: in the libertarian society we advocate you have an option out of it - just stop paying taxes and stop using the communal goods. In modern society you will just go to prison for doing this.) Also, even in post-communist Russia everyone are using private roads, built by the private companies. At first people were really suspicious of this idea, but roads turned out to be amazingly well-built compared to the """"""free"""""" counterparts and now everyone who is willing to spend a buck or two are opting for a new private roads. > muh degeneracy Again and again mainstream libertarians proved to be far more humane and principled than your average Democratic Joe. Also check out Angry AnCap Snake memes, Minarchists (actual non-meme libertarians) agree that in dire situations (war, marxist invasion, etc.) power can be transfered to the state in order to achieve temporary unity to defend against threats that target the core principles of libertarian society tl;dr: don't tread on us.jpg > muh race Do you really think in a competitive, populated by strong-willed people society there will be a room for degeneracy left-wingers advocate so much? Helicopters are waiting for them. Most things that NatSoc around here is hating so much comes from the left-wing parasites promoting their globalist agenda, while keeping the population placated via normalizing unproductive and vile life style choices",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485702464 109813825,109859419,2017-01-29 15:09:59,>>109813825,,Anonymous,IMG_2296.jpg,eh8yl55QDoz6BsQTdDCH0Q==,US,,1485702599 109813825,109859432,2017-01-29 15:10:03,">>109857267 >Libertarianism is pro degeneracy degeneracy flourishes where conseqences are taken out of the equation i.e. socialized fear of consequences is what keeps people in check; on the other hand if one is able to afford dealing with the consequences of their own actions, who am I to say what they can or cannot do I have an anecdote on this: I grew up in a small town that had a group of young heroin junkies, some two dozen of them and, as time went by, they served a good purpose in demonstrating what heroin use does to you; this town hosted many schools so young population was large in numbers, anyway one by one the junkies were kicking the bucket - some of violent, others of medical or self-inflicted causes until they were no more; the town in question has been junkie-free ever since and their collective demise still remains to this day in local lore; this was 30 years ago while drugs have never been cheaper than today, I say self-regulation works in this case and could imagine the same with out-of-wedlock child rearing without a safety net and many other phenomena considered degenerate by the average /pol/ack",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485702603 109813825,109859773,2017-01-29 15:12:07,"I'd be libertarian if so many of its members weren't embarrassing disappointments. See Gary Johnson. I also can't stand: 1. Drugs 2. Gays/tannins 3. Abortion 4. Having no military I don't want to live in a ""free"" world if it's a bleak immoral wasteland full of heroin injecting ""females"" with penises.",,Anonymous,chart.png,JU9uCyUpxvg7f8cgL9L45A==,US,,1485702727 109813825,109860736,2017-01-29 15:17:36,>>109813825,,Anonymous,IMG_2271.png,m0DsFtGPoY1cxxsri9u4PQ==,US,,1485703056 109813825,109860959,2017-01-29 15:18:51,">>109858996 roads may very well become superfluous at some point in the future when all kinds of transport switch to flight; drones have been improving rapidly, a few lacking techs like electricity storage are all that's left to make it viable on a larger scale",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485703131 109813825,109861120,2017-01-29 15:19:45,">>109813825 The NAP shouldn't apply to commies.",,Anonymous,IMG_2109.jpg,gpLI73ZvRMNJRA3Ff96tng==,US,,1485703185 109813825,109861504,2017-01-29 15:21:51,Naturally. Commies aren't people.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485703311 109813825,109861663,2017-01-29 15:22:43,why do I see a lot of libertarian memes with dictator caps on? isn't that the opposite of what they stand for? also where does the helicopter meme come from?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485703363 109813825,109861671,2017-01-29 15:22:46,>>109813825,,Anonymous,IMG_1314.jpg,XI5+wS/BT605IT9/gjSp5Q==,US,,1485703366 109813825,109861893,2017-01-29 15:23:59,">>109831782 >no one holds too much power? Tyranny of the majority applies in any democratic system, direct or representative. It doesn't matter how many ""rules"" you burden the system with, they can and will be amended if the majority wills it so.",,Anonymous,spooner.jpg,vg/f7OHlihJRQe47gMUQvg==,CA,,1485703439 109813825,109862061,2017-01-29 15:24:53,">>109860959 I agree, but i was referring to the current level of technology. Libertarian ideas are becoming more and more viable with the progress of tech such as bitcoin, e-commerce, drones and trains running in vacuum tubes (see Elon Musk). If we are to advocate for our ideas now, we must focus on practical and realistic solutions; focus on things that we can actually change. We can't abandon roads and electricity lines to the forests now, they have to be maintained by the people. Thus, minimal governmental work must be allowed to happen. It doesn't mean we shouldn't abandon those idiotic and unproductive state departments that suck billions out of our pockets (department of education and others horrible institutions).",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485703493 109813825,109862172,2017-01-29 15:25:26,">>109847475 >toll stations every kilometer does not sound effecient Look up how modern transponder-based tolling works.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485703526 109813825,109862379,2017-01-29 15:26:43,"Of which of the following statements do you agree? >If a baker refuses to bake a cake for a homosexual marriage, the baker is violating the gay couple's rights, and this should not be allowed. >If a homosexual male attempts to force a baker to bake a cake for his marriage, he is violating the baker's rights. This should not be allowed. >Both the baker and the gay man are in the wrong. However, the gay man should do business elsewhere out of respect for the gay mans believes. The gay man should have at least one bakery where he can purchase his cake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485703603 109813825,109862386,2017-01-29 15:26:45,">>109815711 Would ancaps give helicopter rides to Commies or would that break the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485703605 109813825,109862754,2017-01-29 15:28:32,">>109813825 woo!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485703712 109813825,109863020,2017-01-29 15:29:51,">>109859432 >fear of consequences is what keeps people in check precisely this. Under a Hoppean libertarian society, people would think twice before acting like total spergs or being unpleasant to people around them, lest they'd want to be expelled from everywhere and by everyone. They would also have incentives to be more productive at their jobs (because no safety nets by the state), be more polite, be less of a nuisance and not take part in risky activities (gay segz, anti-private property rallies, promiscuity, drugs, alcoholism, etc.) >>109862379 The correct answer would be the 2nd, but nu-libertarians (what Walter Block calls ""thick libertarians"") would answer number 3. It's not enough that you say ""okay, live your own black, brown, Jewish, feminist, homosexual life"" it is also necessary that you actively PARTICIPATE in these lifestyles. These libertarians must be purged.",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,PT,,1485703791 109813825,109863043,2017-01-29 15:29:58,">>109862061 I agree, there is no nation that would be ready to caste off the shackles of government yet. I think that once everything is governed as bitcoin is, by math rather than politicians, that will be a reality. I'm not talking about AI either, simply algorithms that set up the ground rules like in bitcoin. You would always need court systems to have people though, even if a more efficient method surfaced, people wouldn't trust a machine with something like that. TL;DR - tech will allow us to reduce gov. but courts will always have to be run by people",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485703798 109813825,109863132,2017-01-29 15:30:32,">>109862754 found this on the fly pic very related",,Anonymous,people-killing-hoppe-an-snake-memes-communists-arent-people-theonlygoodcommunistisadeadcommunist-11062413.png,D1745cW/yuqSGtEHjy1eoA==,US,,1485703832 109813825,109863376,2017-01-29 15:31:50,">>109862379 >If a baker refuses to bake a cake for a homosexual marriage, the baker is violating the gay couple's rights, and this should not be allowed. > gay couple rights Which rights are being violated in this scenario? Right for a homosexuals to do as they please and force everyone to agree that their way of life is okay and should be accepted without a question? > >If a homosexual male attempts to force a baker to bake a cake for his marriage, he is violating the baker's rights. This should not be allowed. > forcing people to do things in a basic kindergarten-tier scenario of voluntary exchange of goods and services > What is NAP No, it's not okay. > >Both the baker and the gay man are in the wrong. However, the gay man should do business elsewhere out of respect for the gay mans believes. The gay man should have at least one bakery where he can purchase his cake. > Gib me dats because i like to do anal stuff Really? How mature. If one baker refuses to provide service for a gay couple, there will almost certainly emerge another baker who would happily service them, thus taking advantage. And it's okay. If not - well, shit. 7 billion people on Earth and no one wants to bake a cake for a two poo-jammers? I don't believe it.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485703910 109813825,109863458,2017-01-29 15:32:15,"is Libertarian Left allowed here? i like guns and self reliance and hate coppers and communists",,Anonymous,1456722700529.jpg,KzY9jwZotxKVacPxtDxlOQ==,CA,,1485703935 109813825,109863747,2017-01-29 15:33:56,">>109863458 so what does that mean? your just a socialist and not a communist? Or do you just like nigger-dick? either one is a no.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485704036 109813825,109863774,2017-01-29 15:34:05,">>109862386 One of the central pillars of communism is the violent expropriation of capital from private control. They explicitly talk about working toward a revolution where they can do this. There are no attempts to hide it, because everyone just ignores them thinking that it's just lefty memes and passionate hyperbole. People have already forgotten (or been deceived about) the brutal death toll of communism. Throwing them out of a helicopter is no different from shooting a man who is waving a gun in your face and screaming that he can't wait to blow your head off as soon as you turn your back. It's self defense, pure and simple. They will kill you as soon as they get the chance, and the NAP doesn't demand that you have a bullet in your skull before you can take action to defend yourself.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485704045 109813825,109863795,2017-01-29 15:34:11,">>109863458 > is Libertarian Left allowed > Libertarian > Left Elaborate please.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485704051 109813825,109863820,2017-01-29 15:34:19,>>109813825,,Anonymous,1466357696186.jpg,0w5FUXG6oH3vqXi8kyc3NA==,DE,,1485704059 109813825,109863893,2017-01-29 15:34:45,">>109863458 >Libertarian Left ?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485704085 109813825,109864004,2017-01-29 15:35:19,">>109859773 See >>109859432 and >>109863020",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1485704119 109813825,109864046,2017-01-29 15:35:33,Can helicopter posters join?,,"Mike ""If it's ass you pound I'll connect you to ground"" Pence",tmp_14701-U0lrmhZl536313092.jpg,rAm+YQe0uUlAEuGdjVPv1Q==,CA,,1485704133 109813825,109864066,2017-01-29 15:35:38,">>109863020 I also agree with the 2nd option. Makes the most sense to me. >>109863376 >What rights are being violated in this scenario? We could assume their rights to equal service, but those don't apply over here in libertarian-land. The 3rd option is also respectable, in my opinion. It may as well be the 2nd option with common sense applied.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485704138 109813825,109864405,2017-01-29 15:37:26,">>109864046 sure can",,Anonymous,1485099885239.jpg,l/UIYUiATkU5tG0IojIEtA==,US,,1485704246 109813825,109864461,2017-01-29 15:37:39,,,Anonymous,dontgoyonme.png,nsQtL0IIyNKF4h1yZRudKw==,CA,,1485704259 109813825,109865142,2017-01-29 15:41:16,">>109864405 North Korea is legitimately not real communism, otherwise that image is great Also >tfw real anarchocapitalism was tried in the Kowloon walled city and it worked really fucking well given the situation and resources",,"Mike ""Cathode Gay Tube"" Pence",,,CA,,1485704476 109813825,109865570,2017-01-29 15:43:38,">>109841078 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOveVUTXYF0 no steppy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485704618 109813825,109866000,2017-01-29 15:45:48,">>109813825 God speed fellow Lolbertarian bros Bring back oldschool /pol/ when it was /ourboard/ FUCK ANTIFAGS t. White Nationalist",,Anonymous,solutions.jpg,hRuT/ZHc5POfbQLwc0EL/g==,AU,,1485704748 109813825,109866260,2017-01-29 15:47:19,">>109863893 left libertarians are just confused. they want to protect civil rights and diminish corporate power. but in order to diminish corporate power they need to increase government power so that regulations can be made. they don't understand that more government power, regardless of whether or not its regulating the economy or peoples rights, will result in a government that infringes on all rights. not to mention that theyre too retarded to see that economic RIGHTS even exist in the first place.",,Anonymous,2012_12_04_30_louisck360.5h6.jpg,mmplCREWoSXb6ihtv4dT6Q==,US,,1485704839 109813825,109866790,2017-01-29 15:50:29,">>109863795 left libertarianism = sargon of Akkad, or dave rubin, or kyle kulinski basically, its sane liberals or faggy progressives but not SJWs.",,Anonymous,6565678.jpg,eFa2J6h1S6krOAz3KxlxfA==,US,,1485705029 109813825,109866927,2017-01-29 15:51:19,">>109866260 Left libertarians seem to think if they implement anarchocommuniwm everyone will peacefully accept that and work with their new system. None of them can explain how to deal with someone who sets up a company under anarchocommunism without resorting to lynch mobs. Fun fact: if your version of anarchy requires roving communist biker gangs to enforce it, it's just a feudal shithole",,"Mike ""Cathode Gay Tube"" Pence",,,CA,,1485705079 109813825,109866937,2017-01-29 15:51:23,">>109866790 No they're classic liberals Left libertarians are basically an-coms Total fucking retards",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1485705083 109813825,109867189,2017-01-29 15:52:54,"I never really looked into libertarianism but I really like your snake its very cute also fuck dirty commie scum",,Anonymous,1484504852689.jpg,5gu6viwQvC0MV8N+DSDzqA==,DE,,1485705174 109813825,109867323,2017-01-29 15:53:44,"So what'll it be /pol/ibertarian general? Meth, a-PVP, or Hexen?",,Anonymous,cash for gold.png,GbyPWD1ctmXGA2K5CBLz4A==,US,,1485705224 109813825,109867378,2017-01-29 15:54:03,">>109867189 Varg is cute! CUTE!!",,Anonymous,shy_anime_girl.jpg,7qYfpi4NjD0KH10J1ZMg4A==,AU,,1485705243 109813825,109867980,2017-01-29 15:58:03,">>109867189 >>109867378 How old is that genuine nut these days?",,Anonymous,859943.png,Vh1wNoKrTXpVPcvUVC5p4w==,US,,1485705483 109813825,109868849,2017-01-29 16:03:17,">>109866260 this is wrong. left libertarianism opposes market economy in favor of voluntary and communal economy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485705797 109813825,109869061,2017-01-29 16:04:45,">>109868849 >oposes market economy >in favor of voluntary So the market economy is not voluntary?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485705885 109813825,109869129,2017-01-29 16:05:09,">>109867980 He's not a nut, just a different perspective- a thulean perspective :^)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1485705909 109813825,109869295,2017-01-29 16:06:12,">>109863458 Read >>109826237",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485705972 109813825,109869364,2017-01-29 16:06:35,">>109869061 >So the market economy is not voluntary? they believe in the Marxists exploitation meme and also market economy = hierarchy which is bad",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485705995 109813825,109870311,2017-01-29 16:12:41,">>109869129 Any man with a soul is a nut m8. You gotta be off your nut to be human. And the crazier you can get without ending up in jail, in an asylum, or dead, the better.",,Anonymous,1187653841894.gif,w4UHp4VfOkETLpxzTH/QBw==,US,,1485706361 109813825,109870663,2017-01-29 16:14:40,">>109861663 bumperoo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485706480 109813825,109870740,2017-01-29 16:15:09,">>109867323 mdpv",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1485706509 109813825,109871510,2017-01-29 16:19:46,">>109870663 Hoppe's libertarians and minarchists hate communism and leftists in general and while they don't agree with everything right-wing dictatorships offer, they feel more comfortable with it, than with completely incompatible with libertarianism and aggressive socialist ideology. Also, Hoppe advocates for a physical removal of communists and ""tyranny of the majority"" sympathisers. Essentially ""Don tread on us, or else"".",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485706786 109813825,109871751,2017-01-29 16:21:25,">>109870740 Too much serotonin release. Can be dangerous on a 3+ day binge having all that 5-HT releasing going down. That shit though. WOW. It was fucking baller when it was still common. And Mephedrone. HOLY SH- Fucking DEA ruining shit. Good thing the market fixes things.",,Anonymous,1144648877368.jpg,V4378V83jEydT17JJN63kQ==,US,,1485706885 109813825,109871842,2017-01-29 16:22:01,">>109861663 >helicopter meme Chile's Pinochet was known to have commies put on helos and dropped at altitude sans parachute",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485706921 109813825,109871949,2017-01-29 16:22:42,">>109871510 >Essentially ""Don tread on us, or else"". Damn right. >Hoppe advocates for a physical removal of communists DAMN right.",,Anonymous,do it faggot.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,US,,1485706962 109813825,109872159,2017-01-29 16:24:01,">>109871510 >Hoppe advocates for a physical removal of communists where? Im only halfway through democracy the god that failed",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1485707041 109813825,109872711,2017-01-29 16:27:37,">>109872159 Page 218. >One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very covenant of preserving and protecting private property, such as democracy and communism. There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from society.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485707257 109813825,109873650,2017-01-29 16:33:11,">Eliminate property taxes without any new taxes (i.e., sales taxes). >How would you pay for schools, roads, and emergency services (police, fire, ER)? How do you explain the transition to free markets to the general public (how it would benefit them, etc.) as it relates to property taxes, which are shit?",,Anonymous,property taxes.jpg,F3wcFAuns/0cd4WZoI7MeA==,US,,1485707591 109813825,109874248,2017-01-29 16:36:47,">>109872159 only half of what >>109872711 is right. In the same chapter, Hoppe says that ostracism, mockery or ridicule might be sufficient to deter socialists or communists from spreading their nonsense. He says the ""physical removal"" part only comes when they start to become an actual threat to private property, when the responsible adults of the ""covenant"" have to take matters into their own hands.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485707807 109813825,109876117,2017-01-29 16:48:12,">>109873650 > >Eliminate property taxes without any new taxes (i.e., sales taxes). Gradual elimination of taxation, friend, not ""Fuck the state, AnCap now"". Oh, btw, Minarchists don't want the total elimination of taxes. They just want less of them, especially when they are being spent so ineffectively. >How would you pay for schools, roads, and emergency services (police, fire, ER)? There is a good saying in Russia - if you are sick and want to die faster - go for a free healthcare. I've never seen any non-private organisation out-performing private in terms of quality and prices. > ER Already semi-private in the area i live in, had to call them once, i was 100% sure that they will arrive in an hour or so (like a ""free"" ER), but it only took them 8 minutes to arrive to my house. > How do you explain the transition to free markets to the general public (how it would benefit them, etc.) as it relates to property taxes, which are shit? It would better everything you've listed?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485708492 109813825,109876142,2017-01-29 16:48:22,Bump,,Anonymous,1482850361676.jpg,zYTMcaINKTzg2LNAisC1MQ==,US,,1485708502 109813825,109877674,2017-01-29 16:57:52,,,Anonymous,Stonewall Jackson.jpg,oTvXERSyWJR2r33N3y17Rg==,US,,1485709072 109813825,109879502,2017-01-29 17:10:10,>>109876142,,Anonymous,1484818590967.jpg,M27r74GaKZo+oWcA+O8+0w==,SE,,1485709810 109813825,109879833,2017-01-29 17:12:17,">>109876117 I'd also add the element of competition on top of what you wrote; healthy continuous competition keeps everyone on their toes and makes for better products/services for paying customers; sizing of such businesses is more reactive to market circumstances as well (supply-demand) contrast this to current situation where (quasi) competition occurs before anything even gets started (gov't bids) regardless if corruption takes place, where nothing gets leaner over time only tax increases for x reason occur regularly, and where natural lobbies form and hold much sway over individuals from the community my favourite thing that anyone old enough to have experienced both roles can relate to is user vs. customer relationship with the provider (socialized/public service vs. private service) a user has no power whatsoever except listen and agree, cannot take their business elsewhere or negotiate, and is bound to whatever the gov't terms are (healthcare rights, education pace/content, euro-style social security) a customer has all the power, they can pick and choose, negotiate on their own and get the best bang for their buck, even take calculated risks if necessary or avoid some product/service altogether",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485709937 110025277,110025277,2017-01-30 09:34:47,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - COMMIES GET OUT EDITION,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1485768887 110025277,110025325,2017-01-30 09:35:14,,,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1485768914 110025277,110025385,2017-01-30 09:35:43,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1485768943 110025277,110025422,2017-01-30 09:36:02,"libertarianism is backdoor communism. it is a middle step to prepare people for breadlines mass genocide",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485768962 110025277,110025696,2017-01-30 09:38:22,"As someone who wants to embrace libertarianism fully but still has a few lingering doubts, how do you keep corporations from becoming the state-analogues that we would fight against in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485769102 110025277,110025774,2017-01-30 09:38:49,">>110025422 i bet your argument for that claim has somthing to do with ""no stong leader = degeneracy = somthing jewish"" am i right?",,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1485769129 110025277,110025919,2017-01-30 09:39:56,">>110025422 Youre thinking of socialism champ.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485769196 110025277,110026453,2017-01-30 09:44:39,">>110025696 Without strong influence from the state (such as subsidization that creates monopolies) there is nothing stopping a smaller company from out competing and checking the larger ""state like"" company. Ruthless compitition is the cure for monopolies",,Anonymous,Monarchy.png,shQ0vXATgrTRWOoqBgtuOg==,US,,1485769479 110025277,110026821,2017-01-30 09:47:40,">>110025774 >The fundamental goal of socialism from the view of Marx and Engels was the realization of human freedom and individual autonomy. Specifically, this refers to freedom from the alienation imposed upon individuals in the form of coercive social relationships as well as material scarcity, whereby the individual is compelled to engage in activities merely to survive (to reproduce his or herself). The aim of socialism is to provide an environment whereby individuals are free to express their genuine interests, creative freedom, and desires unhindered by forms of social control that force individuals to work for a class of owners who expropriate and live off the surplus product. liberalism is word for word the system of government marx described to convert a capitalism society to a socialist one, and eventually a communist one. You can replace all instances of socialism and liberalism, and it would be no different.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485769660 110025277,110027948,2017-01-30 09:56:39,">>110026453 Though I have doubts that monopolies are impossible without regulation, why would monopolies even be necessary for large businesses to mimic a state? Imagine a scenario where five or six successful businesses create a joint venture to provide everything a community would need for living, and then incentivized buying from each other company within that community. They enforce terms and agreements rather than laws, under threat of lose of subscription - essentially expulsion from that community. The companies provide a private police force and utilities. This is a state analogue and essentially a closed market since the living costs inside of it can be artificially made to balance with the income available in that area, and dependent on the subscription's low pricing to make it from paycheck to paycheck. I think this sort of setup would be more the rule than the exception because businesses are incentivized to create joint ventures to lower their ceiling and create avenues for resources - we see this in America already, just not so totally.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485770199 110025277,110028123,2017-01-30 09:57:56,">>110026821 >The fundamental goal of socialism Did you not read that quote? He says Socialism or ""Left Libertarianism"" leads to communism We disagree with leftists >freedom from the alienation and such we like freedom of association and dissociation which is freedom to alienate those you dont wish to be involved in. you've got the wrong blokes man. we're not leftists",,Anonymous,PunksNotRed.png,KVDtOyxxpe5kskjV+69peg==,US,,1485770276 110025277,110028454,2017-01-30 10:00:40,bamp,,Anonymous,16299184_217211148685389_3060032277854142598_n.jpg,sU9U8t1DfQuL2KprVhYXZw==,HR,,1485770440 110025277,110028797,2017-01-30 10:03:16,">>110025277 bump for freedom of association,property and right of physical removal",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485770596 110025277,110029015,2017-01-30 10:04:59,"Ancap would be filled with extreme poverty, a zombie economy of people working long hours, and slums with drugs guns and prostitution Meanwhile the rich, who are thousands of times richer than everyone else, ride around in limousines with armed guards Basically Les Miserables, but even worse because of the process of capital accumulation. Oh yeah and the country ends up being conquered by Hispanic bandits with the help of the starving underclass",,Anonymous,personal vs private.png,kBZgVpmJp6PRx1HlsTiRkA==,GB,,1485770699 110025277,110029078,2017-01-30 10:05:32,">>110028123 >you've got the wrong blokes man. we're not leftists It's exactly what you are. Libertarian is lefty both politically and authoritatively. Your desire for human freedom and individual autonomy is in line with communism. You are advocates for commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485770732 110025277,110029279,2017-01-30 10:07:08,">>110029015 keynesian spotted",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485770828 110025277,110029360,2017-01-30 10:07:45,">>110027948 your idea sounds perfectly feasible and morally acceptable unless these companies force you into the ""terms and agreements"" Im not sure what your issue is? not shitposting btw are you just saying you don't like the hierachy of it all?",,Anonymous,Veteran.png,epTM/5BAWqDtQ6hB5LK9pA==,US,,1485770865 110025277,110029644,2017-01-30 10:09:56,Die Commies.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485770996 110025277,110029700,2017-01-30 10:10:24,">>110029015 >what is economics",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1485771024 110025277,110029723,2017-01-30 10:10:35,">>110025277 >>110025325 >>110026453 >>110028123 >>110029360 You make decent quality pics, OP.",,Anonymous,88f.gif,hGuzJeceoS8VT56oxCSmzg==,HR,,1485771035 110025277,110029943,2017-01-30 10:12:27,">>110029078 commies are againts individualism market individualism what we stand for",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485771147 110025277,110030020,2017-01-30 10:13:05,">>110029015 >the economy is a zero sum game Fuck off Bernie",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485771185 110025277,110030102,2017-01-30 10:13:45,">>110029078 >communism >human freedom and individual autonomy Not bad, got me to reply",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485771225 110025277,110030186,2017-01-30 10:14:22,">>110029723 Ty mate I try",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485771262 110025277,110030214,2017-01-30 10:14:37,">>110025277 M U H R O A D S U H R O A D S",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485771277 110025277,110030486,2017-01-30 10:16:51,">how dare antifa assault people just for having the wrong opinions? >we need to round up all the communists though glad to see libertarians are going mental along with everyone else",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485771411 110025277,110030963,2017-01-30 10:20:37,">>110030486 only if communists are breaking the nap which they always do self defense faggot",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485771637 110025277,110030982,2017-01-30 10:20:43,">>110029360 My issue with this lies in the honeypot of escalating the terms and agreements after the families are dependent on that corporate environment. And definitely not shitposting, I appreciate the discourse. Right Libertarianism is something I'm very interested in and morally I agree with fully - and while I believe that successful individuals should reap whatever rewards comes with their success, I believe there is room for treading to occur in cases like I outlined above. The worst part is, I don't necessarily have an alternative to point to, not one I stand by morally. I just want to know what the general ""libertarian"" response to my question would be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485771643 110025277,110031009,2017-01-30 10:20:56,">>110030486 You forgot that communists aren't people and therefore don't have rights.",,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1485771656 110025277,110031086,2017-01-30 10:21:38,">>110030963 THIS. STOP BREAKING THE NAP OR GET IN MY RAPE DUNGEON.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1485771698 110025277,110031174,2017-01-30 10:22:23,R O N P A U L 2 0 1 2,,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1485771743 110025277,110031371,2017-01-30 10:23:59,">>110029078 >subsidiarity is leftist St. Thomas Aquinas would bitch slap you for saying that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485771839 110025277,110031936,2017-01-30 10:28:08,">>110030982 I share this same worry about an ancap society. Personally I'm a minarchist. A night watchman state would ensure that all would have access to the same level of protection under a judiciary system, and that residents who find themselves living within a honeypot corporate association would always have the option of suing should the terms of service ever be found to breach the nap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485772088 110025277,110031989,2017-01-30 10:28:28,">>110025277 Why is this your future?",,Anonymous,Flag.png,06ynjQqav65dQBlsmBrH/Q==,US,,1485772108 110025277,110032067,2017-01-30 10:29:09,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485772149 110025277,110032351,2017-01-30 10:31:12,">>110031989 >collectivism >no property >state imposed morals how ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485772272 110025277,110032393,2017-01-30 10:31:29,">>110031936 I'm minarchist as well and apparently ancaps consider me a statist.",,Anonymous,16299258_1242592909142359_2015897083197555024_n.jpg,f4t0kPXL+FZ1Lj3uwYItiA==,HR,,1485772289 110025277,110032581,2017-01-30 10:32:54,">>110030982 Yeah I hear you. In my opinion a situation where somone tries to incrementially force more authority over others should be responded to with self defence which could become tricky if its not overt control and others don't realize they're being fucked and you don't have the support you need. i'll admit the power structure is not in favor of the ""civilians"" at this point. perhaps this situation you created was fucked once the people gave up their respisibility to defend themselves to a corporate power. shame on them (lol)",,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1485772374 110025277,110032850,2017-01-30 10:34:52,">>110031936 well minarchism would be the best solution if no state can't be one,even though there would be taxation,if it's very low (and I'm french so I know how high taxes looks like) I could tolerate it,just deport shitskins",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485772492 110025277,110033004,2017-01-30 10:36:00,">>110032351 after Drumpf is impeached it is your only future... the pendulum is going to swing further to the left than it ever has before",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485772560 110025277,110033013,2017-01-30 10:36:05,">>110032581 OP where does money come from in an ancap society?",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485772565 110025277,110033104,2017-01-30 10:36:45,">>110032581 I still don't understand why there are people who consider the CSA as authoritarian.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485772605 110025277,110033282,2017-01-30 10:38:11,">>110033004 ha...hahaha...pffft you're funny",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485772691 110025277,110033547,2017-01-30 10:40:10,">>110033104 slaves. >>110033013 you mean production of currency? many ancaps believe in return to the gold standard because its not somthing you can fake, it is also already scarce and has value.",,Anonymous,Trump.png,44Tjo5DcQI2gm+m8bIuGvA==,US,,1485772810 110025277,110033644,2017-01-30 10:40:55,">>110033282 Hey... im not the one living in a country with a socialist president...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485772855 110025277,110033832,2017-01-30 10:42:25,">no moldbug in OP You had ONE job man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485772945 110025277,110033952,2017-01-30 10:43:26,">>110032393 Fun. And I just got kicked out of my ancom friend group for being ""too capitalist."" I'm just not radical enough for anyone. >>110032850 I like the idea of a semi-voluntary tax, where you could opt out and relinquish your rights to state-provided protection and services. And right to disassociate would take care of undesirable immigration.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485773006 110025277,110033953,2017-01-30 10:43:26,">>110033644 the PS is dead the only ""socialists"" canditates are a Rothschild cocksucker,dude weed and a high leveled retard",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485773006 110025277,110033992,2017-01-30 10:43:48,">>110033832 Tell me what you want meng. I'll put it in next time around.",,Anonymous,AnarcoCanadianism.png,PT7LTE19cU1x/SSnjlrcJA==,US,,1485773028 110025277,110034024,2017-01-30 10:44:08,">>110033547 Ye but banks are privately owned? Don't we already know that (((they))) abuse their money power (e.g. lend out the money (((they))) donn't even own).",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485773048 110025277,110034131,2017-01-30 10:44:56,">>110025277 Capitalism and Libertarianism will perish with the birth of a Fascist Europe.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1485773096 110025277,110034292,2017-01-30 10:46:11,">>110033547 >many ancaps believe in return to the gold standard because its not somthing you can fake, it is also already scarce and has value. The bitcoin meme is also pretty good as just a non-fakeable token of services yet repaid. The proof for why they aren't fakeable isn't easily understandable for laymen, though, and you have to have trust that the original producer didn't embed something tricksy in the blockchain to allow manipulation of it. That's why bitcoins themselves are more valuable than other *coin alternatives, the blockchain has been around the longest and under the most scrutiny, and we have every reason to believe ""Satoshi"" made it as a naive proof-of-concept which is what makes it so trustable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485773171 110025277,110034327,2017-01-30 10:46:29,">>110033953 which one are you voting for lol?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485773189 110025277,110034404,2017-01-30 10:47:04,">>110033992 >A",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485773224 110025277,110034481,2017-01-30 10:47:33,">>110034131 If it happens I fuck off deporting shitskins isn't a reason for controlling my life REEE",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485773253 110025277,110034699,2017-01-30 10:49:11,">>110025422 >When you have a merit based system it will turn into Communism because I'm 14 and what are incentives",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485773351 110025277,110034764,2017-01-30 10:49:36,">>110025277 POST THOSE POLITICAL COMPASSES SO WE CAN FIND OURSELVES SOME POTENTIAL COMMIES/NAP VIOLATORS >GUBMINT FUCK OFF (for the most part) >DON'T TREAD ON ME >DON'T TREAD ON MY GUNS >DON'T TREAD ON MY WEED >DON'T TREAD ON MY CULTURE >DON'T TREAD ON MY MONEY >REEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,[liberty ringing in the distance].jpg,pY+X3AG0mooDjtdWJLi3/Q==,US,,1485773376 110025277,110034771,2017-01-30 10:49:39,">>110034327 de Lesquen (a nationalist with austrian economics plans)for the lulz second round it would be le Pen for the shitstorm I fuck off to another country because her economy policies are retarded",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485773379 110025277,110035008,2017-01-30 10:51:20,">>110029015 >Basically Every Fucking Time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485773480 110025277,110035021,2017-01-30 10:51:25,">>110034764 I've got minarchist feels good",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485773485 110025277,110035070,2017-01-30 10:51:50,">>110034771 would you have voted for Trump or Clinton from your libertarian perspective?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485773510 110025277,110035455,2017-01-30 10:54:33,">>110035070 Trump because taxes event though I don't think a trade war is a good idea after being in this shithole seing higher taxes would just made me kill myself also fuck illegals",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485773673 110025277,110035596,2017-01-30 10:55:30,">>110033992 The Gentle Introduction to Unqualified Reservations and A Formalist Manifesto should be required reading.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485773730 110025277,110036230,2017-01-30 11:00:12,">>110025277 >Post sneks",,Anonymous,nadeko_sengoku_vector_art_v_by_demongray-da5i5e0.png.jpg,uCqtj+84S1uvws87deR1XQ==,US,,1485774012 110025277,110036905,2017-01-30 11:05:31,">>110036230 that's a pretty patrician snek, friend",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485774331 110025277,110037870,2017-01-30 11:12:53,Bump with a competitive quality snek.,,Anonymous,Maury.png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1485774773 110025277,110038526,2017-01-30 11:17:59,">>110032581 Giving it some thought, I think the takeaway is that any abuses in this sort of situation at least have a mechanism to be undone, while an authoritarian government doesn't give any alternatives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485775079 110025277,110039353,2017-01-30 11:24:29,,,Anonymous,ああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ.gif,trpQvlDN8BVRU+FlV87pfQ==,US,,1485775469 110025277,110039529,2017-01-30 11:25:50,Austrian economics are trickle-down economics.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485775550 110025277,110039727,2017-01-30 11:27:21,">>110039529 >implying it's bad",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485775641 110025277,110040081,2017-01-30 11:29:50,,,Anonymous,hibm5tmimx2y.png,y3ysjXE4W6XbtiWiieepoQ==,GB,,1485775790 110025277,110040233,2017-01-30 11:30:53,">>110040081 are you the same british /leftypol/ faggot ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485775853 110025277,110040328,2017-01-30 11:31:31,>>110025277,,Anonymous,1485216758800.jpg,QXnKKlH6/OEU76my9xUz/A==,US,,1485775891 110025277,110040435,2017-01-30 11:32:17,">>110039529 Yes, they are and everybody critizising trickle down economics is right, they don't work UNLESS you have a system without a state who artifically controls competition with subsidies. Without government interference the free market would be geniuenly free and the trickling down would actually happen. Trickle down economics in a system run by a state can't work.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485775937 110025277,110040514,2017-01-30 11:32:51,">>110040233 Which one",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485775971 110025277,110040547,2017-01-30 11:33:07,>>110040081,,Anonymous,1474216944887.png,UmAiy06QEGcUT6Q9q/fdEg==,DE,,1485775987 110025277,110040655,2017-01-30 11:33:52,">>110040547 Not a refute :^) socialism is inevitable lad embrace it",,Anonymous,photo.jpg,dD265HRcX36bBWjh482HfA==,GB,,1485776032 110025277,110040729,2017-01-30 11:34:21,">>110037870 This is a good snake",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485776061 110025277,110040762,2017-01-30 11:34:39,">>110025277 Bump.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485776079 110025277,110040808,2017-01-30 11:34:55,">>110040655 >inevitable Yeah, Europe is socialist already and that shitshow didn't convince me.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485776095 110025277,110040881,2017-01-30 11:35:30,">>110040655 socialism exists since -20 000 BC AnCapism the future :^)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485776130 110025277,110040924,2017-01-30 11:35:51,">>110040808 Socialism != welfare",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485776151 110025277,110041137,2017-01-30 11:37:23,">>110040655 >>110040081",,Anonymous,NAP.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1485776243 110025277,110041170,2017-01-30 11:37:38,">>110040924 socialism = market regulation, welfare, European Pan-nationalism, cracking down on freedom of speech though",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485776258 110025277,110041297,2017-01-30 11:38:28,">>110040328 extended version.",,Anonymous,1485704915338.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,US,,1485776308 110025277,110041318,2017-01-30 11:38:34,">>110040881 Nah lad it goes roughly like this Tribal -> Feudalism -> some type of capitalism -> Socialism-> whatever system we come up that's better >>110041170 No socialism is when the workers seize the means of production what your thinking of is democratic """"""""""socialism"""""""""" which is restricted capitalism and welfare",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485776314 110025277,110041343,2017-01-30 11:38:45,">>110040924 yes you're right,socialism is when we were retarded tribes were the chief could take hoever food and kill if he wanted there was no means of production ;)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485776325 110025277,110041433,2017-01-30 11:39:17,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,4R/ztE+iRjnSbCBnF+AL1g==,US,,1485776357 110025277,110041507,2017-01-30 11:39:54,">>110041318 tribes were socialists as fuck read Engels,wait you're supposed to be a commie ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485776394 110025277,110041867,2017-01-30 11:42:19,">>110041507 Yes but tribes are alot primitive than socialism engels called tribes primitive communism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485776539 110025277,110042173,2017-01-30 11:44:21,">>110041867 and you're ideology is still primitive in terms of freedom and economics",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485776661 110025277,110042196,2017-01-30 11:44:31,">>110041297 LOL",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170130-113906.png,RdkOcYZFUCCXeRZDg+TNhA==,US,,1485776671 110025277,110042357,2017-01-30 11:45:43,">>110042173 No it's no though in what way is it primitive? >capitalism is good it improves quality of liv-",,Anonymous,latin_america.gif,xgdsHIZHq8YeY2UIClkZsQ==,GB,,1485776743 110025277,110042664,2017-01-30 11:47:48,>>110030486,,Anonymous,1484841339388.png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,NL,,1485776868 110025277,110042892,2017-01-30 11:49:15,">>110042664 >human rights only apply to who I like :Dddddd Fucking anarcho feudalists needs to die",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485776955 110025277,110043155,2017-01-30 11:51:02,">>110042357 >a continent full of mestisos,where guns are illegal,full of corruption and with state intervention in the economy sounds like a commie wet dream except Chile",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485777062 110025277,110043160,2017-01-30 11:51:04,">>110042892 Human rights only apply to humans, of which commies like you are not.",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1485777064 110025277,110043193,2017-01-30 11:51:15,">>110030486 It's just economics my man.",,Anonymous,Fuck Commies.png,3p/1dHuIxNyoR7/m+Vpdpw==,SE,,1485777075 110025277,110043299,2017-01-30 11:52:04,Gonna be fun watching libertarians die in gulags.,,Anonymous,1481905904349.png,cqv0fM1xzIGL+1MzYKyi2w==,GB,,1485777124 110025277,110043392,2017-01-30 11:52:39,">>110043160 Prove it to me >>110043155 For (you) >he thinks they failed because they were non white Fuck off",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170130-164630.jpg,fjLVR1huuoGSXn2YLc3ZuA==,GB,,1485777159 110025277,110043417,2017-01-30 11:52:49,">>110043160 you would do well to remember who won the last world war",,Anonymous,stalin-e1435092454460-640x480.jpg,XApHSYWfMCF2fFpPEqcwPA==,US,,1485777169 110025277,110043483,2017-01-30 11:53:13,">>110043299 why so much British commies in the board ? does Tatcher traumatised you or something ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485777193 110025277,110043529,2017-01-30 11:53:34,">""human rights"" worst prank ever made desu :v)",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1485777214 110025277,110043543,2017-01-30 11:53:37,>>110043299,,Anonymous,pepe-nazi.jpg,Rz7L9O1ZnRxNJUV3UxuRQg==,US,,1485777217 110025277,110043566,2017-01-30 11:53:48,">>110025696 BY LIMITING THE STATE, YA DIP",,swaglord,,,US,,1485777228 110025277,110043596,2017-01-30 11:53:59,">>110025422 >>110025422 Idk family. A lot of fascists are ex libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1485777239 110025277,110043625,2017-01-30 11:54:10,">>110043529 meant for >>110042892",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1485777250 110025277,110043661,2017-01-30 11:54:25,">>110043193 Kek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485777265 110025277,110043703,2017-01-30 11:54:42,">>110043392 >Fuck off oh,I forgot you can be banned for posting race crime stats on /leftypol/",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485777282 110025277,110043772,2017-01-30 11:55:06,">>110030486 cool strawman",,swaglord,,,US,,1485777306 110025277,110043893,2017-01-30 11:56:02,">>110043417 1:we're not fascists 2:do you want to remember who lost the cold war ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485777362 110025277,110043903,2017-01-30 11:56:06,">>110043566 No >>110043543",,Anonymous,download.jpg,lDFHTGB6sOVfDHn4rU9Ogg==,GB,,1485777366 110025277,110043904,2017-01-30 11:56:06,"Socialism/communism/ any system where you are rewarded based on your need, not your contribution, is doomed to fail. What's to stop individuals from overestimating their need? Even in a best-case scenario where you manage to avoid the tragedy of the commons, socialism fails to provide any incentive to innovate or specialize. If I can receive the same goods by working as a cashier, why would I go to school for 8 years to learn medicine or engineering, or any sort of difficult career? Why would I work in a sewer or coal mine, or any other dangerous or unpleasant job? Capitalism incentivises such work by providing a greater reward to those with rare skills. Capitalism ensures that every need will be filled. Socialism ensures need.",,Anonymous,bkrait.jpg,tWWPANy1a5C5O7XTyCLFjA==,US,,1485777366 110025277,110044142,2017-01-30 11:57:52,">>110043483 Thatcher certainly was scum Tragic that she survived Brighton >>110043543 Scratch a lolbertarian and you find a fascist, no surprise",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485777472 110025277,110044170,2017-01-30 11:57:59,">>110043703 Post the stats and a source faggot >>110043904 Because anon do you really want to have an easy boring job that you don't care about? Probably not",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485777479 110025277,110044224,2017-01-30 11:58:24,">>110043904 tell me more about how you are free?",,Anonymous,cap.jpg,EgXzgqYEP3nBzHGvYywS0Q==,US,,1485777504 110025277,110044360,2017-01-30 11:59:34,">>110044170 what stops me from not having a boring job ? eutrepreneurship is capitalism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485777574 110025277,110044449,2017-01-30 12:00:16,">>110043904 Workers are rewarded based on their production/time/the limit to what they can work though anon labor vouchers lad and ye I know that's a form of currency",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485777616 110025277,110044596,2017-01-30 12:01:24,">>110044360 Anon have you ever for example if you were a kid done say an easy maths question easy over and over again? No you would get bored because it doesn't challenge you and people want to make something of themselves",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485777684 110025277,110044649,2017-01-30 12:01:46,">>110043483 You just see a lot of them in threads like these because they come in to ""roads xD"" us and argue over economics when they want to model the state after their dependency on their mothers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485777706 110025277,110044738,2017-01-30 12:02:20,">>110044449 Who issues the vouchers? Big Daddy Stalin?",,Anonymous,1479813434720.jpg,snRv8Xt7apslchWuvHjQOA==,US,,1485777740 110025277,110044768,2017-01-30 12:02:30,">>110044224 fuck off back to >>>/r9k/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485777750 110025277,110044926,2017-01-30 12:03:34,">>110044649 Not an argument >>110044738 >stalin Not a communist he was a state capitalist >inb4 le XD not communism eh? Hehehe Fuck off",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485777814 110025277,110045095,2017-01-30 12:04:48,">>110044926 Care to answer the question? Instead of muh not real communism plz",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485777888 110025277,110045117,2017-01-30 12:05:03,">>110044768 US uni 15-50 thousand dollars and their healthcare is stupidly expensive",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485777903 110025277,110045122,2017-01-30 12:05:05,">>110044768 all of you caps just need to remember where the arrow is pointing... wage slaves til the day you die",,Anonymous,feudalism-then-and-now.jpg,CN1yfNy1WcJB/CLGvPtxdA==,US,,1485777905 110025277,110045124,2017-01-30 12:05:06,">>110044224 Poverty is the natural state of man. At least Capitalism allows me the freedom to escape this state. With socialism I get to work AND starve. Hurry now, if you keep posting much longer you'll lose your place in the bread line.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485777906 110025277,110045191,2017-01-30 12:05:33,">>110025277 Libertarian Capitalist Trump supporter reporting in. Commies Get Out! REEEEEEEEEE!",,Anonymous,Screenshot (156).png,d882NX6nUV/9PSri0ds5xA==,US,,1485777933 110025277,110045201,2017-01-30 12:05:36,">>110044596 yeah it's libertarian capitalism with communism you're forced to do it also I love maths so this exemple don't work on me",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485777936 110025277,110045213,2017-01-30 12:05:42,Primitive people were not socialist you fucking retard. They were serfs and slaves to a patriarchal master.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485777942 110025277,110045282,2017-01-30 12:06:12,">>110045095 Maybe anon because theit was a government, very obvious classes, the workers didn't own the means of production etc before you argue please just read a book anon",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485777972 110025277,110045410,2017-01-30 12:07:12,">>110045122 >central bankers austrian school hate central banks,and it's the most capitalists form of economy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485778032 110025277,110045457,2017-01-30 12:07:39,">>110045201 >you're forced But you're not >its libertarian capitalism In an ancap society you would all be wageslaves most likely :^)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778059 110025277,110045489,2017-01-30 12:07:55,">>110045213 not what Engels said :^)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485778075 110025277,110045602,2017-01-30 12:08:39,">>110045457 if you're not an entrepreneur",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485778119 110025277,110045668,2017-01-30 12:09:07,">>110045122 All of these ""Top xyz"" were institutionally put there by the government restricting competition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485778147 110025277,110045822,2017-01-30 12:10:09,">>110045602 Yes so again most people would be wageslaves and you would be the slave masters. Don't exactly see how that's ethical but alright anon you can have your anarcho feudalist society in your daydreams",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778209 110025277,110045926,2017-01-30 12:10:52,">>110045124 ""Poverty is the natural state of man."" Spoken like a true slave.... try “Like slavery and apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human beings.”",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485778252 110025277,110045965,2017-01-30 12:11:09,">>110045282 No butthole I mean who gives the vouchers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485778269 110025277,110046247,2017-01-30 12:13:09,">>110045926 Have fun starving while your state-run farms fail but at least you didn't have to earn it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485778389 110025277,110046281,2017-01-30 12:13:26,">>110045965 A SMALL government bear in mind this would be used by governments transitioning into socialism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778406 110025277,110046306,2017-01-30 12:13:34,">>110045926 >poverty is not natural You're fucking joking, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485778414 110025277,110046448,2017-01-30 12:14:28,>>110044449,,Anonymous,1475515535900.jpg,1y7yVTUququbPwwsNrxHyw==,NL,,1485778468 110025277,110046514,2017-01-30 12:14:58,">>110045213 >primitive society >serfdom and slavery pick one idiot",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778498 110025277,110046528,2017-01-30 12:15:04,Can you lads provide any arguments I don't want to sit in this crapitalist thread waiting,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778504 110025277,110046584,2017-01-30 12:15:27,">>110045822 it's not slavery if there is a wage and mutual agreement but for you waking up at 7:00 and buying things you like is being a slave so I can't understand your autism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485778527 110025277,110046636,2017-01-30 12:15:46,">>110046448 For you >>110046281",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778546 110025277,110046788,2017-01-30 12:16:50,">>110046636 But governments are immoral and euphemisms for violence and slavery",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485778610 110025277,110046822,2017-01-30 12:17:06,">>110046247 you exist as a slave... where are our state run farms? you must not be afraid of the future. come back to reality my child. poverty is a creation of the rich to keep the slaves in line and justify their gross wealth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485778626 110025277,110046846,2017-01-30 12:17:18,">>110046584 if you refuse to sell your labour you die how is that voluntary? It would be like me holding you at gun point saying give me your money or I'll kill you but calling it voluntary instead of theft",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778638 110025277,110046975,2017-01-30 12:18:14,">>110046281 so what you are saying is that communism can't stand on its own and needs a capitalist system to fund it?",,Anonymous,ChSOiLqWkAA5bE7.jpg,OPkLyaNBMnDat+ioCY4qSA==,US,,1485778694 110025277,110047044,2017-01-30 12:18:39,">>110046788 There will usually be a transitioning phase if the country goes through a civil war to achieve socialism it's temporary but it can be corrupted like in the ussr which is why I'm an an com",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778719 110025277,110047062,2017-01-30 12:18:51,">>110046846 You are welcome to fulfill your power process on your own in nature, but nature doesnt give anything for free too so you'll be selling your labour anyway",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485778731 110025277,110047098,2017-01-30 12:19:08,">>110046975 in the same way feudalism ""funded"" capitalism yeah",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778748 110025277,110047206,2017-01-30 12:19:52,">>110046846 you are talking about taxation right there",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485778792 110025277,110047214,2017-01-30 12:19:55,">>110047062 Nature has nothing to do with this anon >>110047044 No what I said was a TRANSITIONING society. Can you read?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778795 110025277,110047335,2017-01-30 12:20:42,">>110047206 No im talking about how if I don't go dell my labour involuntarily I can't get my basic needs can you read?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778842 110025277,110047340,2017-01-30 12:20:44,">>110047044 What authority is stopping me and my tribe from adopting capitalism when communism is achieved? after all its stateless. >>110047214 nature has everything to do with it. Unless you think nature means 'green stuff'",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485778844 110025277,110047382,2017-01-30 12:21:04,">>110047214 Meant for >>110046975",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778864 110025277,110047489,2017-01-30 12:21:43,">>110046846 What's the alternative? If you refuse to hunt/gather/farm you starve. If you refuse to build shelter you die of exposure. If you refuse to wash you die of disease. Existence is an upward battle against entropy. If you do not fight this battle, you are either dying, or leeching off the labor of those who will fight.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485778903 110025277,110047567,2017-01-30 12:22:11,">>110047214 >nature has nothing to do with that if a rabbit don't go eat grass he dies if a wolf don't eat a rabbit he dies if you don't work you die it's the motherfucking nature",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485778931 110025277,110047672,2017-01-30 12:22:48,">>110047340 >human nature It's not against human nature anon >>110047340 Because a country becoming an com requires the people wanting it therefore people won't let you and the peoples militia would take care of it",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485778968 110025277,110047694,2017-01-30 12:22:59,">>110047335 it sets up the same situation we have now.. just acquire a weapon and prepare for the revolution.. divine violence as Zizek would say",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485778979 110025277,110047699,2017-01-30 12:23:01,">>110047335 >>110047567",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485778981 110025277,110047756,2017-01-30 12:23:25,">>110025277 Nah more commies, there will be a counterbalance made, you want or not. Blood will flow. Kek wills it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485779005 110025277,110047866,2017-01-30 12:24:11,">>110047489 >>110047567 Gommies at least give their people basic needs and housing without them working >inb4 but then they won't work People aren't satisfied with basic needs",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485779051 110025277,110048034,2017-01-30 12:25:16,">>110047694 Except an an cap society is feudalism tier",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485779116 110025277,110048064,2017-01-30 12:25:28,">>110047672 see >>110042892 And getting stuff for free from daddy state is very much against human nature. By the way, what authority is distributing the resources equally among the people?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485779128 110025277,110048111,2017-01-30 12:25:46,">>110047866 >people aren't satisfied with basic needs so...why the great worldwide revolution still didn't happened",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485779146 110025277,110048296,2017-01-30 12:27:03,">>110048111 bread and circus... and little gives from the ruling class to stem the revolution",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485779223 110025277,110048333,2017-01-30 12:27:21,">>110043904 >What's to stop individuals from overestimating their need? a little known fact about the soviet union is that at times it was the world's largest importer of shoe catalogs - trying to copy the prices. (little did they know that having two seperate factories for each, the left and the right shoe, may discourage theft, but is otherwise a bad economic decision.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485779241 110025277,110048357,2017-01-30 12:27:33,">>110048064 There would be people to distribute the stuff >>110048111 People aren't very class conscious",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485779253 110025277,110048533,2017-01-30 12:28:45,">>110048296 so people are satisfied with basic needs and the free market gives it properly and in the best way CAPITALISM WINS FATALITY",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485779325 110025277,110048602,2017-01-30 12:29:15,">>110048357 >There would be people to distribute the stuff And they would be shot for stealing",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485779355 110025277,110048677,2017-01-30 12:29:48,">>110048533 You're wrong though anon >He thinks shouting the loudest makes him win the argument",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485779388 110025277,110048695,2017-01-30 12:29:55,">>110047214 yes I am also talking about your ""transitional"" period. you need to incentivize labor to build a base to give free gibs. communism cannot stand on its own volintarily. what happens when all the ""free people"" (after transistion) who aren't incentivized run out of resources? society will collapse or they will have markets to produce",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485779395 110025277,110048786,2017-01-30 12:30:33,">>110048602 And your point is?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485779433 110025277,110048918,2017-01-30 12:31:37,">>110048677 how ? we had thousands of economic crashes and people are still living in this way,and your american friend (or comrade) just contradicted what you previously said",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485779497 110025277,110048997,2017-01-30 12:32:05,">>110048786 Me and my associates can be ancaps in a ancom world and everybody would be free to join us if they agree not to violate other peoples rights, which would mean the ancom society wouldnt survive",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485779525 110025277,110049118,2017-01-30 12:33:02,">>110048786 people are naturely selfish and nobody except some altruist won't give their cash for others if you don't point a gun on them",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485779582 110025277,110049372,2017-01-30 12:34:49,">>110047866 I'm actually in favor of a system like you're describing, as long as it could exist voluntarily. Interesting to note, though - voluntary charity did a much better job of helping the poor before we introduced welfare. People are naturally compassionate and want to take care of their own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485779689 110025277,110049386,2017-01-30 12:34:53,">>110048918 every economic crash is a further give to the revolution... look at progress as a whole.. the world is shifting to the left whether you like it or not",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485779693 110025277,110049427,2017-01-30 12:35:12,">>110025277 I love statism just dont thread on my capital.",,Anonymous,request__libertarian_fascism_by_americansfr-d8actxl.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,FI,,1485779712 110025277,110049535,2017-01-30 12:35:55,">>110049118 again this is something years of wage slavery has taught you.. what makes people altruistic?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485779755 110025277,110049571,2017-01-30 12:36:09,">>110049118 >stealing is good >>110048997 >What is the peoples militia?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485779769 110025277,110049613,2017-01-30 12:36:22,">>110049386 broofs :DDDDDDD >>110049427 it's called minarchism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485779782 110025277,110049722,2017-01-30 12:37:11,">>110048695 No it's just a easy way to calculate what people need",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485779831 110025277,110049804,2017-01-30 12:37:53,">>110049535 less gov' intervention in the economy 'muricans are the one who gives the most in charity >>110049571 a contract is not stealing stop your autism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485779873 110025277,110049841,2017-01-30 12:38:11,">>110049372 I think thats called ubuntu Or Cooperative Spiritual Anarchy >>110049571 Human rights violators apparently. Once again proving that communists should be physically removed",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485779891 110025277,110049873,2017-01-30 12:38:27,">>110049613 I am glad that you agree that the revolution is active and making progress?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485779907 110025277,110049896,2017-01-30 12:38:39,">>110042196 >I wasn't the only one who thought Miss France looks like Moonman I'm happy now",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1485779919 110025277,110049924,2017-01-30 12:38:50,">>110044449 >Workers are rewarded based on their production/time/the limit to what they can work by the way this is wrong. workers get payed based on what their work is worth to whoever pays them. this might seem like the same thing, but the prior version actually tells you that price is objective and thus you should get the same amount of money for the same work at all times.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485779930 110025277,110049988,2017-01-30 12:39:17,">>110049535 I'd argue it was taught to him by years of his country's disgusting tax rate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485779957 110025277,110050033,2017-01-30 12:39:38,">>110049841 I see no wrong with crushing counter revolutionaries >>110049804 An contract you must sign or you will die",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485779978 110025277,110050051,2017-01-30 12:39:45,">>110049722 Why would I produce anything in a society that doesn't reward me for producing? How do you incentivize extremely difficult to produce objects, such as metallic hydrogen, for scientific testing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485779985 110025277,110050068,2017-01-30 12:39:52,">>110049722 dude are you advocating for capitalism?",,Anonymous,Trying_to_find_a_nice_hentai_that_1__aab1ef76edd2b62f9455f1e2eb8d18d3.jpg,r79S7Srow8TLMUS3Y6473g==,US,,1485779992 110025277,110050112,2017-01-30 12:40:10,">>110049804 lol.. i would be curious how you believe we have less intervention in the economy.. what about russia or china? I still think you are very confused",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485780010 110025277,110050340,2017-01-30 12:41:42,">>110050033 But this revolution has already reached its goal, making us the revolutionaries. Have you read the Unabomber Manifesto? You really should.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485780102 110025277,110050346,2017-01-30 12:41:46,">>110049873 I asked for proofs faggot or you are a newfag that don't understand Spürdo language >>110049988 don't talk about that,every month I have PTSD off this shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485780106 110025277,110050386,2017-01-30 12:42:01,">>110050051 If you produce you get better stuff Plus >implying we won't have more atomisation giving us more stuff and more leisure time >>110050068 No I prefer an com but it's an easy way to calculate what people have done for transitioning countries it's not capitalism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485780121 110025277,110050616,2017-01-30 12:43:33,">>110050340 Technically you would be counter revolutionaries as you would be trying to start your own revolution also what is that book about?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485780213 110025277,110050632,2017-01-30 12:43:40,">>110050033 >An contract you must sign or you will die and yet without the contract you're more likely to die.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485780220 110025277,110050732,2017-01-30 12:44:24,">>110050632 Doesn't mean it's not slavery",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485780264 110025277,110050784,2017-01-30 12:44:40,">>110047866 >Gommies at least give their people basic needs So that's why they die from hunger all the time right? TOP KEK",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1485780280 110025277,110050807,2017-01-30 12:44:49,">>110050386 And how do you determine the value of stuff and what it should get you in return",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485780289 110025277,110050843,2017-01-30 12:45:01,">>110050033 IF YOU DON'T HUNT YOU DIE IF YOU DON'T EAT YOU DIE IF YOU DON'T SLEEP YOU DIE THE ONLY SOCIALIST PARADISE THAT EXISTS ARE THE MOTHERFUCKING HEAVENS (if you're not a socialist) >>110050112 compared to my country,you have a shit ton less intervention",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485780301 110025277,110050971,2017-01-30 12:45:56,">>110050843 *a christian",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485780356 110025277,110051109,2017-01-30 12:46:42,">>110050386 Not even joking anymore I don't understand what you want. You want capitalism to kick ass so hard that everything becomes free?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485780402 110025277,110051193,2017-01-30 12:47:18,">>110050732 it means exactly that. you're getting offered the chance to not die - and you're free to fuck off and live a free life in the dirt. you don't want to provide any value to others? ok, but don't expect them to value you. also guess what? in communism you still have to work, dumbass.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485780438 110025277,110051277,2017-01-30 12:47:55,">>110050346 I think that Trump's campaign is an excellent showcasing of the shift to the left.. it is the death throes of an old guard passing away... everything he does is met with massive resistance.. I would also say science slowly killing religion is another excellent example... for me personally even things like the hyperloop are just signs of the globalization progress to come.. oh and the internet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485780475 110025277,110051360,2017-01-30 12:48:29,">>110050616 So your millitia will declare war on our militia, because we want to defend our inalienable natural human rights of right to live, defend and private property? The Unabombers Manifesto is basically about AnPrim, but it teaches you some things about society, technology, leftism, anarchy and the power process.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485780509 110025277,110051437,2017-01-30 12:48:58,">>110050843 my point still stands and refutes your point on government intervention. again... where does altruism come from?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485780538 110025277,110051520,2017-01-30 12:49:32,">>110050616 >>110051360 And more importantly, about revolutions",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485780572 110025277,110051653,2017-01-30 12:50:30,">>110051360 >killing counter revolutionaries >a act against human rights Pick one >right to private property No But I'll check out that book but seeing from what people have said about it I don't expect it to be great",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485780630 110025277,110051669,2017-01-30 12:50:32,">>110025277 how to make these sick logos?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485780632 110025277,110051770,2017-01-30 12:51:25,">>110051437 I think I know this, it should come from spirituality and moral objectivism, but they are atheists so they have a hole there. Moral relativism is a disease.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485780685 110025277,110051829,2017-01-30 12:51:48,">>110051437 I am not a psychologue but still you are the ones giving the more charity and you have less intervention than mine country which is full of jerks you disproved nothing",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485780708 110025277,110052048,2017-01-30 12:53:06,">>110051653 See: >>110042892 >human rights only apply to who I like :Dddddd Come to the light my dude, learn something about natural law and you'll see the truth",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485780786 110025277,110052106,2017-01-30 12:53:35,"Keep this thread bumped guys. Abolish central banking Let prices come down Let people be free",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485780815 110025277,110052198,2017-01-30 12:54:11,">>110051437 Altruism is a genetic trait. Humans who possessed it were more likely to survive. It's just an extension of the biological imperative responsible for familial bonds.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485780851 110025277,110052227,2017-01-30 12:54:23,">>110052048 >your not allowed to defend your country from people who rise up against it >natural law SPOOK",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485780863 110025277,110052268,2017-01-30 12:54:40,">>110052048 where he should start ? John Locke or make a more profound critic of socialism and make him read Hayek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485780880 110025277,110052271,2017-01-30 12:54:41,"let me give you a quick rundown: >Rothschilds bow to Bogdanoffs >In contact with aliens >Possess psychic-like abilities >Control france with an iron but fair fist >Own castles & banks globally >Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line >Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city) >Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth >First designer babies will in all likelihood be Bogdanoff babies >both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51 >Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them >They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world >You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now >The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader’s first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Bogdanoff bunker in Wilkes land? >They learned fluent French in under a week >Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There’s no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff >The twins are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society >In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent beings.",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1485780881 110025277,110052308,2017-01-30 12:54:58,">>110052106 No masters. Golden Age return.",,Anonymous,gardenofeden.jpg,BPNgVJd1rYatq5//xsg7zw==,CA,,1485780898 110025277,110052383,2017-01-30 12:55:24,">>110052106 >>110052227 But you were attacking us, so we are defending.",,Anonymous,05.jpg,gI25vvigQPBAtCyRkXx0sQ==,NL,,1485780924 110025277,110052388,2017-01-30 12:55:27,">>110029015 Why do you think money equals resources? Honestly this is the biggest reason you people are fucking clueless. If the rich gave the working class all of their money it would simply cause massive inflation and nobody would be better off. Neck yourself",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485780927 110025277,110052411,2017-01-30 12:55:38,">>110052227 >talking about defending your country SPOOK",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485780938 110025277,110052457,2017-01-30 12:56:00,">>110040655 >failed every time >people don't want it >inevitable Lmao",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485780960 110025277,110052488,2017-01-30 12:56:11,">>110052383 But you were the ones trying to separate from the country I see no reason to why that should be allowed",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485780971 110025277,110052634,2017-01-30 12:57:09,">>110052411 >suddenly uses our memes Stop it's like an atheist telling a Christian to do whatever it says in the Bible",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781029 110025277,110052661,2017-01-30 12:57:24,">>110051669 Dude vector graphics I make really big and I assembled Photoshop. Almost anything looks sharp this way. I don't have a tutorial but just download inkscape and figure it out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485781044 110025277,110052700,2017-01-30 12:57:37,">>110052488 No we wanted to enjoy our freedom and rights, you wanted to take that away and used aggression against us. We didnt violate anyones rights, you did by attacking us",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485781057 110025277,110052738,2017-01-30 12:57:54,">>110052198 maybe it;s just a trait based on economic opportunity - and there's no genetics involved. might also explain why children may escape the fate of becoming assholes, even though their parents were. there's a whole world of concepts out there that is not based on your poor understanding of protein blue prints.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485781074 110025277,110052860,2017-01-30 12:58:43,">>110043299 You can taste the desperation and commie tears in this post They ACTUALLY believe in dialectical materialism. They ACTUALLY think their religion is ""inevitable"", like the rapture or something. Helicopters when?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485781123 110025277,110052908,2017-01-30 12:59:03,">>110052700 >capitalism = freedom and rights No it doesn't",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781143 110025277,110052919,2017-01-30 12:59:08,">>110043392 >>he thinks they failed because they were non white >Fuck off >mfw your list is basically ""highest percentages of white population""",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1485781148 110025277,110052939,2017-01-30 12:59:16,What do you guys think of Ron Paul?,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1485781156 110025277,110053028,2017-01-30 12:59:54,Communists literally BEG to be poor and enslaved lmao,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485781194 110025277,110053125,2017-01-30 13:00:33,">>110052634 >our meme it's a /lit/ meme and Engels hated Stirner so being a marxist and quoting Stirner is an oxymoron",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485781233 110025277,110053161,2017-01-30 13:00:49,">>110052919 >Spaniards >Not Moors >>110053028 No that's what your doing unless your bourgeoisie in which case you will never get enough support to have an an cap society :^) Heheeh",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781249 110025277,110053245,2017-01-30 13:01:20,">>110053125 Haven't read much of stirner just use it as a meme",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781280 110025277,110053280,2017-01-30 13:01:30,">>110052908 >stealing peoples resources isnt theft and thus a violation of right Come on man how can you justify an authority that distributes the wealth an anarchy? How do you do that without a central authority also known as a state?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485781290 110025277,110053315,2017-01-30 13:01:41,">>110052908 Not necessarily, but libertarian capitalism certainly does >when you hate the state so much you go full circle and want to institute a stronger state I'll never understand commies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485781301 110025277,110053375,2017-01-30 13:02:02,">>110052908 how do you know? after all you also belief working for your own survival is slavery.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485781322 110025277,110053475,2017-01-30 13:02:53,">>110053245 >didn't rode Stirner pleb what did you faggots read except the commie manifesto and the capital ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485781373 110025277,110053558,2017-01-30 13:03:26,">>110052738 >poor understanding buddy I've got a degree in bioinformatics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485781406 110025277,110053579,2017-01-30 13:03:32,Free Market post scarcity when?,,Anonymous,1485344507361.png,F7fRLQdPWniazKgtFgZQLg==,CA,,1485781412 110025277,110053580,2017-01-30 13:03:33,">>110053315 >want a bigger state No we don't not all of us at least >>110053375 No >>110053280 They aren't an authority though",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781413 110025277,110053624,2017-01-30 13:03:50,">>110053315 >I'll never understand commies The primary goal is to alleviate envy. Once you understand this, everything the commies preach and do (the true believers I mean, not the actually ruling intelligentsia) makes sense.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781430 110025277,110053729,2017-01-30 13:04:28,">>110052860 our religion is science and science is god",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485781468 110025277,110053734,2017-01-30 13:04:30,">>110053475 Read a lot of stuff lad there's more than just stirner and marx but read Bordiga :^)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781470 110025277,110053811,2017-01-30 13:04:59,">>110052227 >natural law I'll spoil this for you, if you dont understand natural law or ignore it, thats the cause of your misunderstanding of AnCom >>110053580 >They aren't an authority though So whats stopping me from denying them, after all its not an authority.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485781499 110025277,110053826,2017-01-30 13:05:06,">>110053161 >bourgeoisie Lmao >he actually thinks these ""classes"" exist in any meaningful sense. You people and your delusional sycophantic religion are so cute",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485781506 110025277,110053969,2017-01-30 13:06:04,">>110050033 >>110053580 here, let me quote you: ""An contract you must sign or you will die"". You do not even understand what you're saying, do you?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485781564 110025277,110054214,2017-01-30 13:07:44,">>110053811 Natural law doesn't mean an ancom society can't work we aren't just selfish ass holes >what's stopping me from denying them If you try to take from them other people will be pisssed and you will face consequence",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781664 110025277,110054220,2017-01-30 13:07:47,">>110053729 >GUYS I DON'T BELIEVE IN HUMAN INSTINCTS AND NEUROSCIENCE >GUYS ALL HUMAN BEHAVIOR IS THE RESULT OF ECONOMIC FORCES >GUYS I'M A SCIENTIST, THIS IS SCIENCE >WHY ARE YOUR LAUGHING AT ME Absolutely embarrassing, you're basically creationists.",,Anonymous,1480567228656.png,k4QDKKpw812qx4NLusnHYQ==,CA,,1485781667 110025277,110054376,2017-01-30 13:08:53,">>110054214 >If you try to take from them other people will be pisssed and you will face consequence I dont want to take anything from anyone thats aggression.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485781733 110025277,110054443,2017-01-30 13:09:20,">>110054220 I would challenge you with the question what do you value over science?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485781760 110025277,110054460,2017-01-30 13:09:26,">>110053558 that certainly fits with what i've been told about that field by real coders and biologists.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485781766 110025277,110054472,2017-01-30 13:09:31,">>110054376 Then what do you mean by denying?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781771 110025277,110054634,2017-01-30 13:10:31,"The biggest thing us free market supporters need to do is explain to people how insanely beneficial a deflationary economy would be. We would have to work a lot less, be able to retire earlier and there would be a lot more technology. No country in the world currently does this but Switzerland is the closest example because they have the HIGHEST local purchasing power on earth and everyone there is fucking rich.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485781831 110025277,110054665,2017-01-30 13:10:42,">>110053734 rode Toltstoy,Evola,Spooner,Nietzsche,Sade,Proudhon,Rothbard,Marx,Hitler(this faggot can't write properly),Mises,Locke,Hayek,Bastiat,Hoppe,Buchanan,Montestquieu,Voltaire,Stirner,Orwell and Rousseau,stop pretending being the litterate one",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485781842 110025277,110054667,2017-01-30 13:10:43,">>110054472 Not letting them steal my stuff",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485781843 110025277,110054779,2017-01-30 13:11:25,,,Anonymous,unite.jpg,1LMO8tcCagb7KXQxTYCq5Q==,GB,,1485781885 110025277,110054787,2017-01-30 13:11:29,">>110054443 Why are you asking me an irrelevant question?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485781889 110025277,110054911,2017-01-30 13:12:25,">>110054667 But it's not stealing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485781945 110025277,110054987,2017-01-30 13:12:55,">>110054787 to see if you have a point or just seek to exist in the capacity of a child",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485781975 110025277,110055007,2017-01-30 13:13:03,">>110054779 >unite for poverty >we all want to be poor and enslaved Lmao you cucks are hilarious. I really hope Jeremy wins so Britain turns into Venezuela or Cuba. So much delusion.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485781983 110025277,110055066,2017-01-30 13:13:26,">>110025277 1) I think I just found home. 2) Canada is gonna suffer a socio-economic collapse. Debt-Based Economy + Demographic Winter might mean a new dawn. I might have only a few short years to prepare myself, but when it happens, how do we Out-Freedom Americans?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485782006 110025277,110055142,2017-01-30 13:13:49,">>110054911 Yes it is I have my stuff and they want to distribute it. I have a right of private property.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485782029 110025277,110055157,2017-01-30 13:13:55,">>110055007 well you already have Trudeau so you can lead the charge.. and btw.. you already are a slave lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782035 110025277,110055272,2017-01-30 13:14:36,">>110054779 >>110054472 >>110046514 Tatcher really fucked up your brains guys",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485782076 110025277,110055278,2017-01-30 13:14:38,">>110054987 The fact you were unable to respond to the criticism of your so called ""science"" and instead changed the subject makes you a child. Marxism is as scientific as scientology.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485782078 110025277,110055294,2017-01-30 13:14:45,">>110054220 dude, there's a wide range of behaviour and traits expressed by human beings - even in the same families, or even among twins. saying that any particular behaviour is a result of natural selection beyond mere tendencies is downright foolish when you can explain it with a far simpler motivation. (it might be, but chances are your tremendously wrong)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485782085 110025277,110055352,2017-01-30 13:15:06,">>110055142 They want to distribute your product of labour but in return you get other people's products of labour it's a fair thing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485782106 110025277,110055415,2017-01-30 13:15:34,">>110025277 Why don't you like borders?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1485782134 110025277,110055555,2017-01-30 13:16:26,">come to this thread >ctrl-f ""usury"" >0 results you guys have gotten nowhere...",,Anonymous,1484029477798.jpg,GQwsF2Tja13SAMQ24nAg1Q==,US,,1485782186 110025277,110055598,2017-01-30 13:16:42,">>110055415 i don't see the correlation",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1485782202 110025277,110055675,2017-01-30 13:17:06,">>110051109 Bumping my own question. Seriously I don't understand what you communists want. It's sounds like you want capitalism to create a post scarcity period where everyone can enjoy resources freely. It's that correct?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782226 110025277,110055750,2017-01-30 13:17:31,">>110055157 >implying I support trudeau Nice argument >there's a wide range of behaviour and traits expressed by human beings Yes, yes there is. Very very few of them are socially constructed or (lol) economically constructed. >explain it with a far simpler motivation. And what is this far simpler motivation?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485782251 110025277,110055757,2017-01-30 13:17:32,">>110055675 No",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485782252 110025277,110055794,2017-01-30 13:17:46,">>110055278 you are so lost right now... the religion of marxism is science was my point... you are from Canada but I do have faith in your ability to catch up",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782266 110025277,110055847,2017-01-30 13:18:05,">>110055352 But if he DOESN'T WANT IT,if we wants to be leaved alone,you will send him to the ""totally not statists""gulag for that.And we are the oppressors here litteraly a mentality from 20 000 BC",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485782285 110025277,110055869,2017-01-30 13:18:15,">>110055352 Who is regulating all this? Why cant I just keep the fruits of my own labour?",,Anonymous,MarkPassio-KnowingRightsTaxation.jpg,/Ssddn4ZuAScb/j+osdo2g==,NL,,1485782295 110025277,110056013,2017-01-30 13:19:15,">>110055869 keep the fruits of your own labor like you do now? lol wage slave til the day you die",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782355 110025277,110056105,2017-01-30 13:19:46,">>110055794 >you are so lost right now... This is hilarious, you got btfo and now have nothing. You can't even respond to the criticism of your religion. Just close the tab.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485782386 110025277,110056211,2017-01-30 13:20:26,">>110055757 Please tell me in simpling porky terms how resources should be managed and how to achieve that state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782426 110025277,110056234,2017-01-30 13:20:40,">>110056013 No absolutely not like I do now. Do we live in anarchy right now? Dont think so",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485782440 110025277,110056380,2017-01-30 13:21:32,">>110056013 aaaaaah,now I get it,for you wages don't exists and they are illusions from the ebil porky,I get it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485782492 110025277,110056453,2017-01-30 13:21:57,">>110056234 and why do you believe a state of anarchy would be any different? you would still end up a slave?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782517 110025277,110056602,2017-01-30 13:22:52,"It's so cute that marxists think they can get their ""surplus value"" back. As if money equals consumer goods. They ACTUALLY think they will all live like kings or something if they were paid ""the full value of their labor"". LOL they're so fucking dumb",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485782572 110025277,110056668,2017-01-30 13:23:13,">>110056453 No I would by definition be free If you view life itself as slavery, you might as well kill yourself right now.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485782593 110025277,110056830,2017-01-30 13:24:14,">>110056453 having money in echange of labor isn't slavery not having money at all in echange of shuting the fuck up and work for the NEETbucks is",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485782654 110025277,110056881,2017-01-30 13:24:32,,,Anonymous,hoppeball.jpg,6asnNn4iObY9f2owPO4cXw==,MT,,1485782672 110025277,110056907,2017-01-30 13:24:40,">reminder that the reds have yet to provide any workable method to achieve their unrealistic goals >reminder that their useless ideology has caused the deaths of an estimated 94 million I'm leaving the house, keep up the good fight guys. France, you're cool.",,Anonymous,spekr.png,Frzvag1C0awWgg4IWw7YRw==,US,,1485782680 110025277,110056920,2017-01-30 13:24:45,">>110055555 >come to this thread >make a relevant and logical post >get quints >no (You)'s some subhuman brit is crying about how the government needs to give him stuff because mommy and daddy didn't. pol is dead, what a joke :\",,Anonymous,1479365538541.gif,AYf9cCJBXhHF47DfNT6Hew==,US,,1485782685 110025277,110056980,2017-01-30 13:25:11,">>110056668 on what basis.. in ancap society you would still likely end up a slave for someone else?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782711 110025277,110057010,2017-01-30 13:25:21,">>110029078 This is some amazing bait.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782721 110025277,110057023,2017-01-30 13:25:28,">>110055598 Libertarians advocate open borders",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1485782728 110025277,110057061,2017-01-30 13:25:42,"DAILY REMINDER FOR MARXISTS: The working class already consumes 99% of consumer goods in the economy. What the fuck are you when fighting for? Think about it. You get virtually nothing for taking over the means of production.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485782742 110025277,110057185,2017-01-30 13:26:28,">>110056668 stop it you would give him bad ideas he believes ownning the means of production without having property at all make sense",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485782788 110025277,110057286,2017-01-30 13:27:03,">>110056980 Freedom means no masters. No one controlling or forcing me. > in ancap society you would still likely end up a slave for someone else Baseless assumption. And at least it would be voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485782823 110025277,110057335,2017-01-30 13:27:22,">>110057023 Libertarians are cucks. The true redpilled ideology is free market nationalism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485782842 110025277,110057356,2017-01-30 13:27:33,">>110056830 it would be because there is no inherent value in money.. just what your overlord at the company store tells you it is worth",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782853 110025277,110057387,2017-01-30 13:27:46,">>110030214 where we're headed we don't need roads *drones away*",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485782866 110025277,110057394,2017-01-30 13:27:48,">>110057023 not Rothbard,not Lew Rockwell,not HHH we advocate PRIVATE borders",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485782868 110025277,110057447,2017-01-30 13:28:05,">>110056980 >. in ancap society you would still likely end up a slave for someone else? only as a result of a voluntary trade. in ancient rome for instance slavery was a social institution for the poor and indebted.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485782885 110025277,110057492,2017-01-30 13:28:21,">>110056920 I bet you are super successful and not another mindless wage-slave american drone",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485782901 110025277,110057624,2017-01-30 13:29:07,">>110057356 >there is no value in money marxists everyone",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485782947 110025277,110057650,2017-01-30 13:29:17,">>110057286 Left anarchists believe all hierarchy is bad so they want to use violence to abolish hierarchy even if this hierarchy is voluntary. So being on a basketball team and listening to your coach is evil to them lmao Such a joke ideology.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485782957 110025277,110057806,2017-01-30 13:30:12,">>110057492 I bet you are a super-duper gorilla soldier killing every CEO of the world",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485783012 110025277,110057816,2017-01-30 13:30:15,">>110057356 >there is no inherent value in money.. LOL",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485783015 110025277,110057906,2017-01-30 13:30:54,">>110057286 ""at least it would be voluntary"" <- says it all right there... wage slave til the day you die..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783054 110025277,110057926,2017-01-30 13:31:00,">>110057356 gold=money I don't care about what's in some fiat database tables in frankfurt and washington",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485783060 110025277,110057954,2017-01-30 13:31:11,">>110055294 >there's a wide range of behaviour and traits expressed by human beings Yes, yes there is. Very very few of them are socially constructed or (lol) economically constructed. >explain it with a far simpler motivation. And what is this far simpler motivation?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485783071 110025277,110058106,2017-01-30 13:32:05,">>110057906 Is way more probable to be a wage slave in a country without rampant capitalism. In countries with capitalism, growth will allow you to have infinite chances at passive income.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1485783125 110025277,110058111,2017-01-30 13:32:06,">>110057906 No because no one is forcing me. I can stop being a wageslave any time and be free to do whatever I want without violating other peoples rights",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485783126 110025277,110058118,2017-01-30 13:32:08,">>110025696 Consider this: Right now, drug companies get monopolies because of drug patents. In a truly free market, you and i can get together, hire some biochemists, reverse engineer that shit and market it ourselves. Price would find a natural happy place with supply and demand, freed from protectionism. The original company would still be able to make sales contrary to many arguments...how many people are dumb enough to still buy Claritin for example when a generic is available? People also argue that the FDA and USDA are necessary for safety and quality standards, but it would be extremely simple to do accomplish with the free market. You and I could start a company that, say, inspects beef processors and gives them an accreditation for quality. Aside from advertising our standard, we would have to be very transparent to consumers so they know what our requirements are...which is good for the consumer, vs. A fiat government designation that you just have to trust. Beef producers would want our stamp of approval, because its good marketing for them. There are people already doing this...Rainforest Alliance, Certified Naturally Grown ('organic' standards inspection and designation at a fraction of usda cost) etc. Simultaneously, people would also have to pay WAY more attention to what they are buying and how they live in general. By necessity people would be more civically involved and attentive and individuals would HAVE to become smarter. This is why I am a Libertarian, aside from a whole bunch of other moral and ethical stuff.",,Anonymous,tmp_13334-1481171151454741826311.jpg,3M8lYK5NMn37evcdwtM1Pg==,US,,1485783128 110025277,110058135,2017-01-30 13:32:14,">>110057023 so what? you think poor people would still come to a country they can't compete in the job market when they can not expect benefits? you know what? The once that'd come I'd love to see. Because they'd mean some faggot's going to offer me cheaper services - so I can buy more gundams. (which is great for local gundam producers)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485783134 110025277,110058142,2017-01-30 13:32:16,">>110057906 HOWEVER you get to keep 100% of that wage, bro",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485783136 110025277,110058244,2017-01-30 13:32:52,">>110057650 if people would question the inherent power value of many social structures we currently have we could solve many problems... hence the revolution",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783172 110025277,110058371,2017-01-30 13:33:41,"I hate fucking working and I want to work less and less and have more and more money. That's why I support free markets and a deflationary currency. FUCK WORK Let people save money, let prices come down a fiction, let working hours naturally decrease. Fuck central banking and fuck Keynesian economics.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485783221 110025277,110058546,2017-01-30 13:34:34,">>110057806 or just a working class organizer.. .it takes all kinds.. better than dreaming of ancapistan slavery i suppose",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783274 110025277,110058604,2017-01-30 13:34:53,">>110058371 This. Why is it so hard to see? And free market of banking",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485783293 110025277,110058798,2017-01-30 13:35:56,">>110057816 tell me its not true lol? put all of your money on your bed tonight.. .and if the stock market crashes tomorrow you would likely starve? its not like it is gold bars or seeds or something.. tis just paper and metal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783356 110025277,110058800,2017-01-30 13:35:58,>>110025277,,Anonymous,Selection_133.png,8HPEp/VgUmXf7v6qwfBbFg==,US,,1485783358 110025277,110058913,2017-01-30 13:36:38,">>110057926 how many people are paid in gold though...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783398 110025277,110059172,2017-01-30 13:38:08,">>110058546 OMG YOU ARE WORKING !!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE SO MUCH A SLAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SHOULD BE A NEET AND WANTING PEOPLE WHO ARE TOTALLY NOT MEMBERS OF THE GOVERMNENT AND GIVE YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANT !!!!! THEY ARE TOTALLY NOT THIEVES THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE PROLETARIAT !!!!!!!!!!! IT4S EBIL PORKY THE ENTREPREUNEUR WHO DARE TOO SELL LIMONADE THE THIEF !!!!!!!!",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485783488 110025277,110059218,2017-01-30 13:38:21,">>110058604 Yes real free banking worked wonders in Sweden in the 1800s. >>110058798 The only value in money is the goods you can trade for it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485783501 110025277,110059241,2017-01-30 13:38:27,">>110058913 none because state enforces the use of kike central banking currencies thank god purchasing bullion isn't taxed atm so people who wish to convert fiat into physical gold, can",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485783507 110025277,110059283,2017-01-30 13:38:40,">>110058106 I would have to disagree with you on that.. look at your average millennial american... want to talk about wage slavery and a fixed system.. yikes!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783520 110025277,110059417,2017-01-30 13:39:18,How statistcucked am I lads?,,Anonymous,iojasiogojf.png,jPGDpYPOHVF8CtNYQGVnIg==,GB,,1485783558 110025277,110059475,2017-01-30 13:39:37,">>110058111 until you live in Ancapistan and my gun/private army says you work? its a good system guys.. trust me",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783577 110025277,110059600,2017-01-30 13:40:17,">>110059417 you good in the test I am a minarchist you accept protectionism is trash and everything will be ok",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485783617 110025277,110059658,2017-01-30 13:40:36,">>110059475 Thats breaking the NAP",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485783636 110025277,110059675,2017-01-30 13:40:42,">>110058142 100% of what wage.. they indicated they would be a voluntary slave?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783642 110025277,110059700,2017-01-30 13:40:48,">>110057954 >And what is this far simpler motivation? that depends on the situation. when someone's dirty do you say that is because 'niggers love being dirty or because there's no shower nearby? and even when you're sticking to mechanistic explanation, you're system is extremely complicated - where your parents and grand-parents eating behaviour influences something that is modulated by how much sunshine you're exposed to + the bacteria in your gut ... and and and - and then there are stress factors like how others kids treated you when you were 7 because that caused redox stress making you more likely to x. ... saying genetics have no influences is wrong, but trying to make predictions barely on the SIMPLIFIED model of the genome is ridiculous.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485783648 110025277,110059720,2017-01-30 13:40:56,">>110058546 >I don't want a free market Why do you want to be poor? Why don't you want extremely low prices and extremely high wages? Why don't you want the price of capital to be incredibly low so anyone and their dog can start a firm and compete in the market? Why don't you want the average person to have high savings rates? Cuck.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485783656 110025277,110059732,2017-01-30 13:41:00,">>110059475 >private army how much does their willingness to die for you while attacking their own compatriots cost?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485783660 110025277,110059813,2017-01-30 13:41:28,">>110029078 You are no better than those on the left calling everybody who disagrees with them fascists. You are a rigid thoughtless asshole caught up mindlessly in a cult of personality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783688 110025277,110059876,2017-01-30 13:41:47,">>110058371 how do you advocate for this short of organizing your fellow working class?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783707 110025277,110059903,2017-01-30 13:41:54,">>110059475 you would have no profit to kill me",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485783714 110025277,110060127,2017-01-30 13:43:03,">>110059172 lol... well I can say that I have seen great success in the last few years.. all due to organizing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485783783 110025277,110060152,2017-01-30 13:43:12,">>110059283 Why don't you try showing me a country where more people live on passive income per capita than a Capitalist country instead of your anecdotal ""evidence""? How easy can it be to live out of stocks revenue in North Korea compared to the US? How easy can it be to save capital and rent a flat with freedom of speculation? How easy can it be to create a web service that serves people without you having to do anything else once created? Evidence says it is way easier to stop being a wage cuck in countries where there's money than in countries where not working means you don't eat, and there's no better example of countries where there's money than Capitalist tax havens.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1485783792 110060694,110060694,2017-01-30 13:46:22,"last thread hit the limit >>110025277 This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads. I can't beleve this thing is still for sale. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191581560273?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true When we last left off Commies struggled to define communism and how to acheive it without capitalism. THIS IS THE PART 2",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - COMMIES GET OUT EDITION PART 2,Anonymous,Flag.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1485783982 110060694,110060798,2017-01-30 13:46:58,,,Anonymous,Classic.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,US,,1485784018 110060694,110060864,2017-01-30 13:47:24,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1485784044 110060694,110061970,2017-01-30 13:54:01,They have to go back.,,Anonymous,hoppe_bae_00000.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,US,,1485784441 110060694,110062394,2017-01-30 13:56:18,,,Anonymous,hoppeball2.jpg,kH3Bb9ldzepfKClu39AYYw==,MT,,1485784578 110060694,110063012,2017-01-30 14:00:14,>>110060694,,Anonymous,Antards.png,X5a524IJigR5mUnFRSigdQ==,US,,1485784814 110060694,110063139,2017-01-30 14:01:04,,,Anonymous,oc.png,7vrXHJAJZTvBS2BzyzJ5hQ==,US,,1485784864 110060694,110064844,2017-01-30 14:11:37,"/r/ing a Right Wing Death Squad patch airforce edition ""Tactical Physical Removal"" or similar featuring a snake, a helicopter, and the latin ""carnis depositio""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485785497 110060694,110065677,2017-01-30 14:16:38,">110064844 I'd be glad to help but i don't understand what you want. can you make a 5 minute paint version for me to sexify?",,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1485785798 110060694,110066474,2017-01-30 14:20:33,">>110064844 I'd be glad to help but i don't understand what you want. can you make a five minute paint version for me to sexify",,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1485786033 110060694,110066581,2017-01-30 14:21:08,">>110060694 Lads I'm economic left because I don't like the idea of big business, and like the fact that there is a social net for the poor and disadvantaged of my country. That does not mean that I was mudshits, and gypsies coming here abusing the system. What does that make me?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1485786068 110060694,110067150,2017-01-30 14:24:33,">>110066581 sounds like you might be a national socialist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485786273 110060694,110067226,2017-01-30 14:24:55,">>110060694 you need to go too, cuck. this is an ethno nationalist board",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485786295 110060694,110067282,2017-01-30 14:25:15,">>110060694 Taking out the commies requires helicopters, you best not forget.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1485786315 110060694,110067744,2017-01-30 14:27:58,">>110067282 Yes I member.",,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1485786478 110060694,110067984,2017-01-30 14:29:11,">>110066581 commie in denial",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485786551 110060694,110068211,2017-01-30 14:30:26,,,Anonymous,1485779102658.png,j4KVBVxHnHdesmY+1f7EqA==,PL,,1485786626 110060694,110068305,2017-01-30 14:31:12,">>110060694 i love my fellow Dr Hans ""Democracy - the god that failed"" is literally /pol/ in a book",,Anonymous,poLqXby.jpg,4Gxer5q+f7PD0dtSKDjRIw==,DE,,1485786672 110060694,110069431,2017-01-30 14:37:17,What is /lrg/'s favorite president?,,Anonymous,Pres.jpg,U4THHHZyP51BEp4SSTGfDA==,US,,1485787037 110060694,110069814,2017-01-30 14:39:28,">>110060694 >Libertarian >Right Pick one.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485787168 110060694,110069816,2017-01-30 14:39:29,">>110066474 Not really a working asset but general idea, I really like the idea of the commie being silhouetted by a rising sun Text would go where the text is, and color corrected to be ancap-y. Maybe like ""Air Support Division - REMOTIO CORPORIS"" which seems to be a better translation",,Anonymous,test.png,NVkE+Sy9uO381d3dduBq4Q==,US,,1485787169 110060694,110070112,2017-01-30 14:41:04,">>110069814 You probably think that Hitler was right wing",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1485787264 110060694,110070362,2017-01-30 14:42:18,">>110069816 Stick around patriot.",,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,US,,1485787338 110060694,110071190,2017-01-30 14:46:17,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v2yN6pYIjg kid going full retard",,Anonymous,1476031851774.png,YJkzqaW27gIzY0g4l9Q1TA==,PT,,1485787577 110060694,110071628,2017-01-30 14:49:07,"I guess you all voted for Hillary, right? You know, the candidate that was against capital transfer controls and trade tariffs?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485787747 110060694,110071788,2017-01-30 14:50:05,>>110071190,,Anonymous,BannerAd1.png,sUXgr/ZaNZBYGXFrMfIcuw==,US,,1485787805 110060694,110073278,2017-01-30 14:59:02,">>110066581 >Lads I'm economic left because I don't like the idea of big business Literally nothing wrong with big business in an anarchist society. It simply means the business is good for everyone, otherwise it wouldn't have become successful. The big businesses that charge high prices and have no competition, which I assume is what you mean, are a product of the government intervening in the economy- aka economic left. These businesses simply cannot exist in a free market. >and like the fact that there is a social net for the poor and disadvantaged of my country. A social net would be much more efficient when it is conducted directly by the citizens and the free market. You can see right now how well the government ""anti"" poverty programs are doing.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1485788342 110060694,110073390,2017-01-30 14:59:39,">>110071628 >implying either one was worth voting for",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485788379 110060694,110073616,2017-01-30 15:00:51,what's the libertarian stance on mandatory military service and why?,,Anonymous,,,HR,,1485788451 110060694,110073713,2017-01-30 15:01:27,">>110071190 >People Sleep Peacefully in Their Beds at Night Only Because Rough Men Stand Ready to Do Violence on Their Behalf Sorry kid, killing is the reason we are civilized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485788487 110060694,110073874,2017-01-30 15:02:28,">>110073616 There would be no standing army, only well-regulated militias https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diz-8FzHOLM",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485788548 110060694,110074068,2017-01-30 15:03:32,">>110071628 >against capital transfer >https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/a-fair-tax-system/ Smh also supported TPP which is basically crony capitalism all the way >TPP Pushed https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/31880 >Mook asking where ""we"" landed on trade issue. ""Is she going to say she supports it [TPP}?"". >Clinton literally gets told where to stand on every issue by men behind the curtain https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/31835 On Clinton's switch to opposing the TPP ""some of our good friends will be in tough positions and we don't want them against us"" https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/21265 >more tpp push https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/17724",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485788612 110060694,110074202,2017-01-30 15:04:15,">>110060694 HEEEEEEEEEEY FREEDOM FIGHTERS is the retarded anglo still here ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485788655 110060694,110074370,2017-01-30 15:05:20,">>110069431 Andrew Motherfucking Jackson of course",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485788720 110060694,110074646,2017-01-30 15:06:48,">>110071628 Sometimes lesser violations of the NAP are necessary to prevent larger ones. Every pragmatic libertarian probably voted Trump.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1485788808 110060694,110075075,2017-01-30 15:09:07,">>110069816 Im kinda stumped on how i could put a snek aesthetically in here heres my draft so far. what does it need?",,Anonymous,AIRSUPPORT.png,toYZBXivQL4hlA3LZc2tcA==,US,,1485788947 110060694,110075481,2017-01-30 15:11:38,> mfw they say no roads,,Anonymous,ancapism works.png,LlWU0qnJLkydCuEOsbYsDQ==,RU,,1485789098 110060694,110075929,2017-01-30 15:14:10,">>110075481 audible kek",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485789250 110060694,110076136,2017-01-30 15:15:23,">>110074370 No, he was removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485789323 110060694,110076447,2017-01-30 15:17:11,">>110074202 No, he was removed.",,Anonymous,1485100463830.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,US,,1485789431 110060694,110076513,2017-01-30 15:17:32,">>110060694 How will we make sure niggers stay the fuck out in a libertarian society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485789452 110060694,110076619,2017-01-30 15:18:07,">>110060694 God bless you and your cause",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485789487 110060694,110076743,2017-01-30 15:18:54,">>110076513 we don't force them to get jobs and they starve. >>110076619 Thanks Bro.",,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1485789534 110060694,110076964,2017-01-30 15:20:20,Did Trump violate the NAP for banning immigration?,,Anonymous,,,IS,,1485789620 110060694,110077297,2017-01-30 15:22:03,">>110076743 What about all the niggers that employ other niggers? Why do we have to allow white genocide? How do we destroy the jewish menace?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485789723 110060694,110077393,2017-01-30 15:22:37,">>110076964 The A stands for aggression dummy so of course not",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485789757 110060694,110077527,2017-01-30 15:23:21,">>110076964 Yes. Another question. If two people were hunting a deer, would the person who shot first be in violation of the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485789801 110060694,110077677,2017-01-30 15:24:16,">>110077393 Deportation is agression?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485789856 110060694,110077898,2017-01-30 15:25:28,">>110077677 Not if they are trespassing",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485789928 110060694,110077936,2017-01-30 15:25:44,">>110077527 Wrong, no one is entitled to come to the US Also no, it wouldn't since the deer belongs to no one and whoever kills it claims it as its property, it only violates the NAP if the someone steals the deer from the one who killed it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485789944 110060694,110078135,2017-01-30 15:26:54,">>110077297 Come on dude, you're redpilled enough to know without the white mans welfare niggers would destroy themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485790014 110060694,110078202,2017-01-30 15:27:17,">>110077393 But it is a government intervention that is ancaps are against, it it not?",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1485790037 110060694,110078396,2017-01-30 15:28:27,">>110060694 Can liberarianism work in a muslim country? I have read many libertarian/classical liberal writers and yes i think it is the best ideology. Social and economical freedoms will make people more prosperious, happy and well. But i dont think it can work in a muslim country. Muslim countries need the benevolent dictators who forcefully tries to make his nation civilized. Otherwise people will never vote for social or economical freedoms.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1485790107 110060694,110078449,2017-01-30 15:28:52,,,Anonymous,4ca.png,Wp8DPHS7ZjHuNCJxmRvkbQ==,GB,,1485790132 110060694,110078636,2017-01-30 15:30:04,">>110060694 RON PAUL STAND TALL",,Anonymous,IMG_2153.jpg,NEeNTKJr7lF7H90rBjM9sg==,US,,1485790204 110060694,110078666,2017-01-30 15:30:16,">>110078202 But this isn't anarchy. Right now the geographical area known as the USA is basically property of the government.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485790216 110060694,110078838,2017-01-30 15:31:17,">>110078636 Ron Paul stand tall",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485790277 110060694,110078887,2017-01-30 15:31:33,">>110078449 >>110078636 We don't need roads where we're going",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1485790293 110060694,110079049,2017-01-30 15:32:37,,,Anonymous,IMG_1471.png,8fv0Opi/zlTl6fhd9GXOoQ==,US,,1485790357 110060694,110079276,2017-01-30 15:34:09,,,Anonymous,DRUMPF.jpg,VD5sJf+aF1ch7Cdyk0cZXg==,US,,1485790449 110060694,110079454,2017-01-30 15:35:15,">>110075075 I like it a lot anon, I appreciate your work. The snek probably isn't absolutely necessary seeing it composed like this I've seen busier patches that have smaller symbols like the big dipper or the northern star or a year number in the negative space, so if we wanted to work in a snake or some other symbolism there we could. I sort of like it as it is though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485790515 110060694,110079762,2017-01-30 15:37:14,">>110073713 >What is deportation?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485790634 110060694,110080650,2017-01-30 15:42:53,">>110066581 >What does that make me? A cucked, low T effeminate fag boy. Hope you at least have a nice boipussi.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485790973 110060694,110081879,2017-01-30 15:50:32,post snek,,Anonymous,1485714210044.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,DE,,1485791432 110060694,110082057,2017-01-30 15:51:40,">>110079454 right on brother. I may play with the design a bit more at my own pace thanks for the input.",,Anonymous,1485718767775.png,f3CVF7R7h6uAaprf2ry5rw==,US,,1485791500 110060694,110082694,2017-01-30 15:55:42,>>110081879,,Anonymous,remove.png,Nrx+cxQCzj86/KroRDrnKQ==,US,,1485791742 110060694,110082821,2017-01-30 15:56:26,">>110067984 natsocs = moronic pseudocommies in denial, jews in the hearth",,Anonymous,1484655042842.jpg,7UqIhno1qDcPmcbd75OzOg==,ES,,1485791786 110060694,110083745,2017-01-30 16:01:56,>>110081879,,Anonymous,Maury.png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1485792116 110060694,110083906,2017-01-30 16:02:54,People dont understand anarchy because they dont know what true freedom is and choose to ignore natural law and private ownership.,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485792174 110060694,110084843,2017-01-30 16:08:10,>>110081879,,Anonymous,snek (1).jpg,pz1AlTRxS+ILFG8xjn+G0Q==,US,,1485792490 110060694,110085305,2017-01-30 16:11:02,"I genuinely can't wait for /pol/ to rediscover its libertarian roots, like in the Ron Paul days. Freedom is the sole virtue. Fascists on both sides eat shit, this is America baby",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485792662 110060694,110085497,2017-01-30 16:12:16,Piss flag for piss drinkers lmao.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1485792736 110060694,110085839,2017-01-30 16:14:10,">>110085305 Once people on here realize that the EU is shit even without refugees they will see that authoritarian systems are not what they want.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1485792850 110060694,110086469,2017-01-30 16:17:47,">>110078636 RON PAUL STAND TALL",,Anonymous,1485804727655.png,4MBP2Hac0ir5S4g5C0W9kg==,US,,1485793067 110060694,110086536,2017-01-30 16:18:12,">110085305 I feel man.",,Anonymous,Patriot.png,6JGa5oEjplFDYzC2retMdQ==,US,,1485793092 110060694,110086841,2017-01-30 16:19:58,">>110085497 >peepeeboyz",,Anonymous,1485785927016.jpg,6NhxW5F9a4JCD8l7H1PQUQ==,US,,1485793198 110060694,110086881,2017-01-30 16:20:13,">>110085305 I feel man.",,Anonymous,Patriot.png,6JGa5oEjplFDYzC2retMdQ==,US,,1485793213 110060694,110088081,2017-01-30 16:26:44,>this thread,,Anonymous,happy pepe ripped thumbs up.png,HvlW19wG2RYWR9YelzD96g==,US,,1485793604 110060694,110089024,2017-01-30 16:31:55,">>110066581 You're a Libertarian Socialist. Welcome, friend!",,Anonymous,49eeid9.png,ttiduCv44frPI1my5bpszQ==,US,,1485793915 110060694,110089324,2017-01-30 16:33:29,>>110089024,,Anonymous,1485721791284.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1485794009 110060694,110089712,2017-01-30 16:35:18,">>110089024 R E M O V E",,Anonymous,1485704915338.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,DE,,1485794118 110060694,110090010,2017-01-30 16:36:43,">Tfw libertarian but hate all things /lgbt/, especially trannies. Am I allowed to be a libertarian still?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485794203 110060694,110090265,2017-01-30 16:38:04,">>110076964 Once the freedom of association is violated by law, NAP stops making sense. Forced integration is a NAP breach, but so is forced prevention of voluntary integration.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1485794284 110060694,110090532,2017-01-30 16:39:29,"You know whats great about these threads, I feel its Brockshill free. We can have some proper conversations here",,Anonymous,militia.jpg,0M6PUXqqXlTXNKjrxLv2vQ==,NL,,1485794369 110060694,110090582,2017-01-30 16:39:46,">>110090010 yeah dude. Its your freedom to choose not to associate yourself with mentally ill homos.",,Anonymous,PunksNotRed.png,KVDtOyxxpe5kskjV+69peg==,US,,1485794386 110423138,110423138,2017-02-01 06:02:05,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads. I can't beleve this thing is still for sale. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191581560273?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true >Hey, where's my free breadsticks? Right this way if you will please board the free breadstick Air-Shuttle we will take your breadsticks",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FREE BREADSTICKS EDITION,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1485928925 110423138,110423171,2017-02-01 06:02:24,,,Anonymous,Classic.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,US,,1485928944 110423138,110423205,2017-02-01 06:02:44,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1485928964 110423138,110423759,2017-02-01 06:09:35,Fuck Bernie Sanders dude!,,Anonymous,breadsticks.jpg,CakP/c+5X58yyAX6LZpNWw==,US,,1485929375 110423138,110424335,2017-02-01 06:16:19,,,Anonymous,1484826748311s.jpg,rFcpsakwtyxtVDaHgL319w==,US,,1485929779 110423138,110424545,2017-02-01 06:18:37,,,Anonymous,15747803_1210080112393639_3667069045120882624_n.png,Cy1MSoRj2WJ1rtGgvuSLbQ==,US,,1485929917 110423138,110425326,2017-02-01 06:27:36,,,Anonymous,1484505123722.jpg,cn7zYt0hboGsOYZ1jwY0SA==,US,,1485930456 110423138,110426523,2017-02-01 06:42:22,,,Anonymous,1484824855423.jpg,BPIws0FyxB8blyYXFIxKaw==,US,,1485931342 110423138,110426963,2017-02-01 06:47:48,I will buy 4chan and ban all right groups and post left pepes.,,Anonymous,,,BG,,1485931668 110423138,110427634,2017-02-01 06:56:29,">>110426963 Do it fag, oh wait your funds are being redistributed and you can't afford to buy it off of mook.",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1485932189 110423138,110427765,2017-02-01 06:58:30,">>110424545 Ancap has nothing to do with pacifism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485932310 110423138,110427967,2017-02-01 07:01:15,>>110427765,,Anonymous,snek (2).png,nADBWJ+GxgLqfIp15rtKKg==,US,,1485932475 110423138,110428241,2017-02-01 07:04:41,">>110427967 I really like this meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485932681 110423138,110428645,2017-02-01 07:10:00,">>110428241 Save it it's all yours my friend",,Anonymous,1485100431692.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,US,,1485933000 110423138,110428728,2017-02-01 07:11:05,"I believe that libertarianism stems from political beliefs that are not yet fully developed. Tell me, why can't you make a hard stance? Cant you see how pandering all over the spectrum creates massive conflicts of interest?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485933065 110423138,110429152,2017-02-01 07:16:31,">>110428728 Libertarianism alone is a vague term politically it just means less government really. That's why this is right libertarian thread. I do have beliefs stemming from individualism and private property. What's your issue?",,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1485933391 110423138,110429462,2017-02-01 07:20:32,'Anarcho'-capitalism is an oxymoron and is closer to feudalism than anarchism.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485933632 110423138,110429559,2017-02-01 07:21:35,">>110429462 Not you again. Pls go",,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1485933695 110423138,110429984,2017-02-01 07:26:39,">>110429462 I remember someone saying that EXACT retarded talikng point when bitcoin was just 1 dollar in 2010 well its never ever gonna be a dollar again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485933999 110423138,110430280,2017-02-01 07:30:28,,,Anonymous,oc.png,7vrXHJAJZTvBS2BzyzJ5hQ==,US,,1485934228 110423138,110430637,2017-02-01 07:34:32,nonviolent bump,,Anonymous,ContinentalEcoContactEP.jpg,PJlShaZWzGrncUqa+re48g==,SI,,1485934472 110423138,110430835,2017-02-01 07:36:37,">>110430637 That's a keeper",,Anonymous,1485704915338.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,US,,1485934597 110423138,110431501,2017-02-01 07:43:53,,,Anonymous,Maury.png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1485935033 110423138,110431518,2017-02-01 07:44:07,,,Anonymous,Join or die.png,s0DfvflAbVbQ/f9qsQw/eQ==,BE,,1485935047 110423138,110431569,2017-02-01 07:44:37,,,Anonymous,Hans Hermann Hoppe quote.png,fPmjsSemI7Uc+Q1B1hrhTw==,BE,,1485935077 110423138,110431620,2017-02-01 07:45:05,,,Anonymous,Hans Hermann Hoppe memeing.jpg,WnHhljWcIZhgLq63GqR1SQ==,BE,,1485935105 110423138,110431652,2017-02-01 07:45:25,,,Anonymous,2nd Amendment flag.jpg,4N18PT8kUsqF2S7E5ieq9Q==,BE,,1485935125 110423138,110431660,2017-02-01 07:45:31,"Fresh from /g/ >>>/g/58733440",,Anonymous,1482200806085.jpg,LQhdYtODnA7sLgKkVoLyzQ==,FI,,1485935131 110423138,110431724,2017-02-01 07:46:05,">>110431620 lovely",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485935165 110423138,110431745,2017-02-01 07:46:16,,,Anonymous,Erik von Kuehnelt Leddin.jpg,rtobQpVQ+oecLU2N9ZatsA==,BE,,1485935176 110423138,110431772,2017-02-01 07:46:32,">>110423138 The Minutemen is the group for this, we're currently reorganising though but should be active on our twitter (https://twitter.com/theminutemenUSA) in a few days.",,Mike Pence,,,GB,,1485935192 110423138,110431800,2017-02-01 07:46:52,">>110423138 I RECOGNIZE THAT SILHOUETTE",,Anonymous,myst_eurofront.jpg,SZt4S5LVVd5bMLdk2jQpTA==,US,,1485935212 110423138,110431855,2017-02-01 07:47:28,,,Anonymous,J R Tolkien.jpg,uzR8hR++/nnMNNuuJuvxZQ==,BE,,1485935248 110423138,110431924,2017-02-01 07:48:07,">>110431518 This is a good one.",,Anonymous,1485703410047.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,US,,1485935287 110423138,110431942,2017-02-01 07:48:21,,,Anonymous,Lysander Spooner the highwaymand and the state.jpg,/4853IzYzLus+jz9GgABhA==,BE,,1485935301 110423138,110432066,2017-02-01 07:49:41,,,Anonymous,Thomas Jefferson 23.jpg,8Tw8o+np0psWlFuTW3b7BQ==,BE,,1485935381 110423138,110432229,2017-02-01 07:51:27,,,Anonymous,Snake of eternity.jpg,CPoNLVo+BRc3+yMsFwEDCg==,BE,,1485935487 110423138,110432329,2017-02-01 07:52:23,reminder that eminent domain should be abolished,,Anonymous,William Blackstone (2).jpg,4BjUF+YBBYNXvRh3YyNSsg==,BE,,1485935543 110423138,110432424,2017-02-01 07:53:25,,,Anonymous,the-desire-to-build-a-risk-free-society-has-always-been-a-sign-of-decadence-it-has-meant-that-the-henry-fairlie-294096.jpg,WXXbv4GOjVnhb4dpl/tL6Q==,BE,,1485935605 110423138,110432477,2017-02-01 07:54:01,,,Anonymous,C S Lewis.png,W3K94uBHnJm9+eK6MPCRvQ==,BE,,1485935641 110423138,110432547,2017-02-01 07:54:50,">>110426963 4chin was bought with jew blowjobs a long time ago. the fact that youre here is proof.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485935690 110423138,110432718,2017-02-01 07:56:54,">>110423138 Post mr. Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485935814 110423138,110432981,2017-02-01 07:59:54,">>110431772 I was wondering what the hell happened to this everyone was talking about it for a day and then it vanished.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485935994 110423138,110433331,2017-02-01 08:04:08,>>110432718,,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1485936248 110423138,110433704,2017-02-01 08:08:20,Anarcho-Corporatism is the truth my friends,,Anonymous,12.jpg,lAim2GGQtRQlhohuvYhMXQ==,GB,,1485936500 110423138,110433729,2017-02-01 08:08:41,">>110432329 only kind of land one can truly own is allodial land and there's none of that left in the Old World",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485936521 110423138,110433807,2017-02-01 08:09:38,>>110433704,,Anonymous,1485718767775.png,f3CVF7R7h6uAaprf2ry5rw==,US,,1485936578 110423138,110434087,2017-02-01 08:12:25,>>110433704,,Anonymous,Sin-título-1.jpg,Zv0t8EVMeAU3wt7OSoyq8w==,ES,,1485936745 110423138,110434226,2017-02-01 08:13:41,">>110434087 as you can see in the pic, we can't make a difference from a nigger in the darkness >niggers",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1485936821 110423138,110434246,2017-02-01 08:13:51,Anyone here got a Political Compass of Ron Paul's politics?,,Anonymous,,,PH,,1485936831 110423138,110434348,2017-02-01 08:14:52,">>110431660 >>110431660 >>110431660 holy fucking kek that thread is amazing",,Anonymous,1391923007717.jpg,nV24KNq5LgN5aq1Zqi2pCQ==,US,,1485936892 110423138,110435332,2017-02-01 08:25:37,,,Anonymous,1474314515456.png,3h+9NaJHNIRLym6yXZwGhQ==,PT,,1485937537 110423138,110435528,2017-02-01 08:27:53,Physical removals of a sort may be necessary secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.,,Anonymous,C3GRTazVYAAMl1p.jpg,Hj1ndb3lAIx6rGN5U7PJ5g==,US,,1485937673 110423138,110436184,2017-02-01 08:35:07,">>110435332 wonderful, thanks anon",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485938107 110423138,110436244,2017-02-01 08:35:36,">>110435528 20/88 heil hoppe",,Anonymous,1484841339388.png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,US,,1485938136 110423138,110436639,2017-02-01 08:39:39,">>110423138 :::autistic screeching::::::Goddammit they were thrown out of Hueys! That is a little bird that can only seat two fucking people. Nobody got thrown out of that fucking thing. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485938379 110423138,110437079,2017-02-01 08:44:11,">>110436639 Yeah but it fits in the circle really well dude.",,Anonymous,remove.png,Nrx+cxQCzj86/KroRDrnKQ==,US,,1485938651 110423138,110437200,2017-02-01 08:45:25,">>110436639 hi /k/, love you",,Anonymous,zergsnake[1].jpg,bkZyjSftJ0Wo7PBG27IAWw==,SI,,1485938725 110423138,110437264,2017-02-01 08:46:11,">>110433807 I find it hilarious that the symbol of facism is a literal bundle of sticks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485938771 110423138,110437423,2017-02-01 08:47:47,">>110436244 >20/88 25/88 FTFY",,Anonymous,15966230_10209402771489450_672846720006767650_n.jpg,ShvWYTMybADS023Hn+oQJQ==,HR,,1485938867 110423138,110438264,2017-02-01 08:56:06,">>110437423 No Dingus not the words from the meme his post you smelly butthole",,Anonymous,1484834904293.png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,US,,1485939366 110423138,110438273,2017-02-01 08:56:10,">>110436244 >>110437423 What does the 20 or 25 stand for? A version of the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485939370 110423138,110438321,2017-02-01 08:56:33,">>110437079 >>110437200 I sperged out and went searching on the web for confirmation they used Hueys before i reeled my autism back in. Yes, the little bird is definitely sexier. If it weren't for my 'tism I would agree, the graphic is really bad ass in a 1980s way that I like to see brought back. /k/ loves you back, slovenia. Thanks for the surplus",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485939393 110423138,110438949,2017-02-01 09:02:10,">>110438264 >uncomprehensive nonsense What? >>110438273 20 stands for nothing, 25 stands for this Hoppe quote: >There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from society.",,Anonymous,15400427_1188388274562823_4294200637554464377_n.png,aKNQLrvcdgzTOqyPBff9dQ==,HR,,1485939730 110423138,110439016,2017-02-01 09:02:43,">>110438321 >Thanks for the surplus are we exporting crates of virgin M70 AB2 or what? those available locally through dealers are being sold off by our armed forces and cost 690€ apiece VAT included",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485939763 110423138,110439048,2017-02-01 09:03:02,,,Anonymous,1485714180853.jpg,Urw/nuRXLYV4CEHcOkvd1g==,US,,1485939782 110423138,110439204,2017-02-01 09:04:25,">>110438321 >/k/ loves you back, slovenia. Thanks for the surplus Don't forget to thank him for the excellent firstladypussy.",,Anonymous,1466776506989.png,VW6ERQ8Numjrz02M39oLlA==,HR,,1485939865 110423138,110439316,2017-02-01 09:05:21,>>110439048,,Anonymous,1457120000696.png,EUWgEr+VxaKJgRDPIZow7w==,US,,1485939921 110423138,110439347,2017-02-01 09:05:39,">>110438949 >Physical removals... ECT was 20 words you thought I was referring to the text from his pic which was 25 words.",,Anonymous,1462810640644.png,XhIOnn4O+/acQyLiPaPGsQ==,US,,1485939939 110423138,110439791,2017-02-01 09:09:22,">>110439347 Ah I get it now, here's a snek for your troubles",,Anonymous,88f.gif,hGuzJeceoS8VT56oxCSmzg==,HR,,1485940162 110423138,110440025,2017-02-01 09:11:11,">>110439347 Fuck phone posting pls ignore my shit formatting. >>110439791 I was about to post that snek",,Anonymous,1485714210044.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,US,,1485940271 110423138,110440139,2017-02-01 09:12:17,">>110439016 wow no fucking shit...that's cheaper than I can get them, before tax! Last I saw they were around $850 here locally. Yours are semi auto as well, I take it? My AKs are Izmash made SAIGAs. I paid $400 for the one in .223 and I think 6 or 700 for the one in 7.62. They work fine but the finish is shit. I'm just glad we can still get any imports! We have Kalashnakov (sp) USA making rifles here now, but AFAIK none have reached the shelves yet. >>110439204 Thank you for the most beautiful first lady that we've had since the 1960s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485940337 110423138,110440147,2017-02-01 09:12:18,">>110423205 >>110427634 >>110428645 >>110431569 >>110431620 >>110433331",,Anonymous,hoppe2.jpg,iCwFn2VLpIwPMP4W/nDGrw==,GB,,1485940338 110423138,110440979,2017-02-01 09:19:11,,,Anonymous,ancap .png,yaCds8d6420FFSdmJX/IyQ==,DE,,1485940751 110423138,110441251,2017-02-01 09:21:47,">>110440139 semi-auto, by local funs law we can't own any full autos that are currently in use by MIL/LEO but I can buy full auto pic related in 223rem for 1220€ VAT included btw there's loads of WW2-era machineguns to be had here for about 1k apiece",,Anonymous,hk_g33.jpg,XO63+znihlcqK+k05Unc0w==,SI,,1485940907 110423138,110441896,2017-02-01 09:27:29,">>110441251 I hate you are you serious?!? I've got a locally made HK91 clone in .308 real fucking nato OFC but I've never actually fired the thing. Never should have bought something in a caliber that's too expensive to shoot. I have to ask, for your $1220 is that a real HK made rifle? It's really cool either way, I suspect .223 is more comfortable to shoot in a roller locked design like that. ww2 era machine guns....really.....I'd buy one of every kind if that were the case here...I don't think you could touch anything but MAC-10 for less than 10 grand, and an M16 was 35k last time I looked Maybe Trump will end the ban. Never know!!! :^)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485941249 110423138,110442060,2017-02-01 09:29:04,">>110441251 How close are you to Dubrovnik? I was there a few months ago. I have a friend in Serbia.",,Anonymous,kingslanding.jpg,NV7G2BEVA4WYEJeoXgJcqg==,US,,1485941344 110423138,110442835,2017-02-01 09:36:03,">>110441251 I'm guessing yes and with all matching serials but don't take my word for it since I took that particular example off a local dealer's online shop that has only make/model, funs category, caliber and price listed the pieces here don't circulate as much as in your cunt because of stringent legal requirements for both the seller and buyer so there are probably many gems to be found have a look-see for yourself if interested: http://www.rebec.si/si/orozje/avtomatsko-orozje-g235.shtml >>110442060 Dubrovnik's like 800km away from me m8",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485941763 110423138,110443036,2017-02-01 09:37:47,,,Anonymous,snek (6).png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,US,,1485941867 110423138,110443218,2017-02-01 09:39:20,"sorry, >>110442835 meant for >>110441896",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485941960 110423138,110443419,2017-02-01 09:41:04,">>110442835 oh hah in Texas I've sold guns out of the trunk of my car in a parking lot, 100% legally, cash sale. Other states, not so much. oh, bullshit , are those prices correct? I could get an MP40 for 1500 euros? I think I saw one for $18,000 a few years ago...they're beautifully made. OH yeah, that's a real H&K. Wow. I think I paid $1100 for my HK clone rifle and who could afford the real thing here. That Thompson for 660 euros....the sky is the limit for those things here. I bet they're 20 or 25k easy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485942064 110423138,110443908,2017-02-01 09:45:24,">>110443419 yeah, those are actual prices shame about that registry of yours being closed for any new entries :^) if that dropped, so would the prices of currently available ones stateside",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485942324 110423138,110444043,2017-02-01 09:46:39,">>110423138 >libertarian >throwing commies out of helicopters Sounds like a violation of the NAP to me",,Anonymous,2003742_orig.jpg,rLexGSDft7RvRnGwP5EoVg==,US,,1485942399 110423138,110444188,2017-02-01 09:47:43,">>110444043 it's preemptive action m8, better safe than sorry after all, the first thing that comes out of commies' mouths is violent revolution",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485942463 110423138,110444195,2017-02-01 09:47:45,">>110444043 commies violate the NAP throwing them out of helicopters in self defense",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485942465 110423138,110444388,2017-02-01 09:49:21,">>110423138 God bless",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485942561 110423138,110444443,2017-02-01 09:49:55,">>110444188 >it's preemptive action I don't think the NAP works like that. Just become Fascists and drop your silly meme ideology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485942595 110423138,110444537,2017-02-01 09:50:50,">>110443908 >>110443908 Yeah, I think the prices on full auto vs semi if there were new production would be something like a 50% premium, which is of course nothing. For a F/A post-86 dealers sample I think the markup is 300% over a semi-auto price, more or less. Truthfully, F/A is a novelty I can shoot in Vegas any time I want to drive there (5 hours) and blow a few hundred bucks. It's just for shits and grins but there's nothing wrong with that. I knew a guy that went to jail for 3 years because he had an illlegally converted rifle. Cost him into the 6 figures not including lost income, the dumb ass. Just for some toys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485942650 110423138,110444595,2017-02-01 09:51:20,">>110444043 NAP only protects humans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485942680 110423138,110444636,2017-02-01 09:51:43,">>110444443 no",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485942703 110423138,110444651,2017-02-01 09:51:54,">>110444443 See >>110436244",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485942714 110423138,110444677,2017-02-01 09:52:06,">>110444443 If somebody threatens you with violence, the threat alone justifies some level of self-defense. This is even supported by common law. It's called assault.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485942726 110423138,110444723,2017-02-01 09:52:32,">>110444443 to be fair, hoppe speaks about physical removal only after they become a clear and present danger to breaking NAP",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485942752 110423138,110444793,2017-02-01 09:53:10,>>110444043,,Anonymous,1485705127084.jpg,qI4f6Ferw3nBlR/ikdhlXA==,US,,1485942790 110423138,110445073,2017-02-01 09:55:41,">>110444723 At least from what I interpreted from the bits I've listened too and read, he's more of the exile them from society kind of person.",,Anonymous,1466123161016.jpg,XT6UhC2aQF9tKKqx+NFVOw==,US,,1485942941 110423138,110445167,2017-02-01 09:56:35,"I don't see why you won't just be a Fascist but whatever. Better to have ""libertarian right"" in the political arena than any leftists.",,Anonymous,Fasces (2).png,SDG3qbeLZMV8d4BhJ01ybw==,US,,1485942995 110423138,110445410,2017-02-01 09:58:59,">>110445073 I believe ridiculing them publicly was mentioned but I could be wrong, it's been a while since I've read the book",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485943139 110423138,110445670,2017-02-01 10:01:12,">>110445167 At least the ""muh rights"" group makes sense. They are short sighted and selfish but not insane.",,Anonymous,IMG_6085.jpg,fjxGRDtsaTkHvPXYkLjRAQ==,US,,1485943272 110423138,110445756,2017-02-01 10:01:56,">>110445410 ostracism would play a big role in any stateless social order. if people are behaving in a way the society doesn't like, they can refuse to do business with them. ultimately, that could mean that massive dickheads can't even buy electricity or water.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485943316 110423138,110446127,2017-02-01 10:05:22,">>110445670 A short sighted and selfish society (if it's even a society at all) will ultimately rot into decadence and nothingness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485943522 110423138,110446519,2017-02-01 10:08:39,"It has been rightly remarked that “there is not one freedom, but many freedoms. There is no general, abstract freedom, but there are articulated freedoms conformed to one’s own nature. Man must not generate within himself the idea of a homogenous liberty, but rather that of the whole of such differentiated and qualified liberties.”15 The other freedom, which is upheld by libertarianism and by natural law, is a fiction just like the idea of “equality.” Practically speaking, it is only a revolutionary weapon: freedom and equality are the catchwords certain social strata or groups employed in order to undermine other classes and to gain preeminence; having achieved this task, they were quickly set aside.",,Anonymous,a03.jpg,E3dluyFeT0F8zDxxaiPjng==,US,,1485943719 110423138,110446584,2017-02-01 10:09:16,">>110445167 I like Fascism to a degree, but I like right-libertarianism more. I just see a few flaws with it. I'm not entirely for a 100% stateless society however. Too many outside threats to the libertarian social order for that. A quick example is having and maintaining a standing Military. A necessity if you do not wish for other nation states to tread on your rights. The state needs to be small as possible however and have a justified reason for existence. A standing military wouldn't be needed if the world was stateless, or if no other nation had a standing army. >>110445410 >>110445670 I think this applies to both comments. Ridiculing is a tactic for maintaining short sightedness. But I would also say these days how do you ridicule those without any shame? I think the shaming genie is unfortunately out of our societies bottle.",,Anonymous,1485142246348.jpg,Qn0vPkTkQhdf1KAEbZQqqQ==,US,,1485943756 110423138,110447110,2017-02-01 10:14:16,">>110446584 I wanted to point out CH's militia of every able-bodied citizen but after looking it up I discovered their standing army is about 150000 strong this would certainly be the biggest challenge of them all",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485944056 110423138,110447715,2017-02-01 10:19:42,">>110446584 I don't like libertarianism because I don't like the idea of a society that says ""do whatever you want but don't fuck with me"". This just opens the floodgates of absolute degeneracy and decadence. This is the kind of shit you get when you don't have order and don't put your foot down. An immoral, irreverent, decadent, chaotic mess of hideous ideologies and degenerate behavior. A true Sodom & Gomorrah. >but I wanna remove commies! Either shit or get off the pot. You can't have your cake and eat it too.",,Anonymous,1464342477580.png,PDxOp/wRVegrR4PE1Co/zQ==,US,,1485944382 110423138,110448404,2017-02-01 10:25:41,">>110447715 I bet you think smoking tabacco is degenerate and should be illegal because you don't like it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485944741 110423138,110448680,2017-02-01 10:28:04,">>110447110 >>110446584 >>110436244 >>110423171 I'd like to read a red pilled rendition of the miracle of Chile, or rather its history in general focusing on the economy and transition of power. Any good book suggestions? While we're at it, how about one about the Bolsheviks too?",,Anonymous,1461718539660.png,r8bDNW81yvzVQoyyIewyTg==,CA,,1485944884 110423138,110448837,2017-02-01 10:29:25,">>110444188 That's exactly what Mussolini said and how he justified the march of Rome. Admit it, you're fascists.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485944965 110423138,110448899,2017-02-01 10:29:55,">>110448404 >I want to be able to dress in drag and smoke crystal meth in the streets while singing about eating shit >lol muh freedumb fuck society who cares You've proven my point. Your ""society"" would be Sodom & Gomorrah.",,Anonymous,1478116463647.jpg,Jyva62KCNmyvB2DsQrhK7A==,US,,1485944995 110423138,110448911,2017-02-01 10:30:05,">>110447715 what is it that you consider degenerate? it is purely arbitrary I'd like to point out that degeneracy is a luxury when the consequences of an individual's actions are socialized, for example drug rehabilitation, clean needles supply, complementary contraception, elective abortion, NEETbux, quasi-disabilities... have everyone fear the consequences and you'll see no risky behaviours",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485945005 110423138,110449133,2017-02-01 10:31:59,">>110448911 >what is it that you consider degenerate? Are you an atheist who believes in relativism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485945119 110423138,110449286,2017-02-01 10:33:19,">>110449133 there are activities not mentioned in the holy bible, what's your thoughts on them regarding degeneracy classification?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485945199 110423138,110449338,2017-02-01 10:33:44,">>110448899 >I don't like personal freedoms, people are scary >I'm a massive submissive cuck and need to be told what to do >I believe in a higher power and religion is necessary in society",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1485945224 110423138,110449498,2017-02-01 10:35:14,">meanwhile in libertarian no regulations paradise >>110447715 >>110448899 Libertarianism is basically modern liberal society but with corporations having more freedom to corrupt and raze countries to the ground for profit",,Anonymous,China smog.jpg,c51EAGR1WvIW3CZSry5Lng==,GB,,1485945314 110423138,110449544,2017-02-01 10:35:38,">>110447715 > I don't like libertarianism because I don't like the idea of a society that says ""do whatever you want but don't fuck with me"". > ""do whatever you want but don't fuck with me"". Minarchism is considered ""Libertarian"", yet it's more of a ""Don't fuck with us"" sort of deal. You are entitled to your own vices. just don't expect others to be nice or support you in any way. Compare it to the ""free needles"" and ""free abortions"" and millions spent on bums who drink all day and collect their welfare checks in order to continue their vicious routine. > This is the kind of shit you get when you don't have order and don't put your foot down. On the contrary, when you lower the competition and placate the public with ""Everyone gets a medal"" mentality, force them into paying for a welfare state, reduce their opportunities and freedom by ridiculous laws you get your stagnation and degeneracy. Look at the black community in the US. They were more or less fine before you guys introduced the welfare system. Now their communities are shit and most black are lazy fatherless fucks who accomplish nothing in life. > An immoral, irreverent, decadent, chaotic mess of hideous ideologies and degenerate behavior. A true Sodom & Gomorrah. You are describing communistic utopia. Sodom & Gomorrah are only possible when you don't have to work hard to earn a living. Degeneracy is unpractical. Libertarian society preaches practicality and efficiency in every field of life.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485945338 110423138,110449649,2017-02-01 10:36:29,">>110447715 Except in a libertarian society there is a certain degree of ""fucking"" the things that are degenerate. Don't like gays? Don't do any business dealings with them. Shame and ostracize bad behavior. Find a community that excludes them. Same thing with any other sub-group that you may find distasteful. >Hoppe has equated free immigration to ""forced integration"" which violates the rights of native peoples, since if land were privately owned, immigration would not be unhindered but would only occur with the consent of private property owners. Me personally, I don't think you can really have a libertarian society that isn't all-white. Sad thing is, that may be hard to do these days.",,Anonymous,1485099856527.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1485945389 110423138,110449694,2017-02-01 10:36:56,">>110449338 >I'm an immoral degenerate who wants to do grotesque things and I don't care if I rot society into nothingness",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485945416 110423138,110449884,2017-02-01 10:38:47,">>110449498 yeah, nah, you're forgetting: -no subsidies to corporations/agricultural lobby -no monopoly/cartel-enabling legislation -no mandatory ponzi schemes like healthcare and social security -no government makework and bloated bureaucratic processes -no kikey central banks shoved down the throats of citizens and so on",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485945527 110423138,110449986,2017-02-01 10:39:42,">>110423138 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads. I'll bump to all those things",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1485945582 110423138,110450117,2017-02-01 10:40:54,">>110429152 >Libertarianism alone is a vague term politically it just means less government really. That's why this is right libertarian thread. I do have beliefs stemming from individualism and private property. What's your issue? Try JS Mill on liberty or bentham n utilitarianism They would have been anons on 4chins",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1485945654 110423138,110450215,2017-02-01 10:41:45,">>110448899 >Streets I don't think you understand my positions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485945705 110423138,110450246,2017-02-01 10:42:01,">>110423138 You guys are right about everything except land. No one can own land. Exclusive use is okay but the land itself belongs the the community that added value to it A single tax on land value would virtually eliminate poverty and liberate society",,Anonymous,8f4a56a7a9e5a31241e574ecd6fef9ca887a687c30b7169149aa611ab237de51_1.jpg,7LAx4JDbRS1Tg+jdWcs+Qg==,US,,1485945721 110423138,110450506,2017-02-01 10:44:14,">>110449544 >Minarchism is considered ""Libertarian"", yet it's more of a ""Don't fuck with us"" sort of deal. >You are entitled to your own vices. just don't expect others to be nice or support you in any way. And where is the enforcement of it? What's to stop someone in this hypothetical society from smearing shit all over themselves and doing crack? Are you okay with this in society? >They were more or less fine before you guys introduced the welfare system The welfare system was intended for people who need to get back on their feet. A temporary thing. Not for people to live off of. But that's niggers for you. Welfare should be abolished anyway. >You are describing communistic utopia. A communist utopia had more order by comparison. >>110449649 >Don't like gays? Don't do any business dealings with them. Shame and ostracize bad behavior. Find a community that excludes them. Same thing with any other sub-group that you may find distasteful. That won't hold up the long run. Look how far that got in recent years in the US.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485945854 110423138,110450699,2017-02-01 10:45:43,">>110450246 Having land is our only principle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485945943 110423138,110450769,2017-02-01 10:46:21,">>110450506 Because the State stepped in and made it illegal to discriminate. That happened before I was even born.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485945981 110423138,110451225,2017-02-01 10:50:29,">>110450699 Land should be a factor of production desu senpai >inb4 communist",,Anonymous,a7c1c31e95676382d47de8ce2daa747b.gif,Op42IgfZ1RZTMj6MI3pObA==,US,,1485946229 110423138,110451234,2017-02-01 10:50:38,">>110450215 Your position is garbage. >>110450769 Even besides that. If you have no moral framework or underpinned structure, people will just do whatever and you'll have a mess. Every strong society needs order, and every order needs morals. Having none is essentially anarchism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485946238 110423138,110451616,2017-02-01 10:53:54,">>110450246 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTxyNQ0ea-k For anyone interested in how land ownership brings about unearned wealth",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485946434 110423138,110451983,2017-02-01 10:57:09,">>110450506 >And where is the enforcement of it? If you are talking about law enforcement... You would be better off asking Slovenia anon about it. I'm not a ""good"" libertarian, since i'm 100% sure we need some minimal governing to enforce the laws. My take on it? Southern US/Swiss system with armed citizenry and small, but extremely competent police department (read: sheriff + small group assistants + volunteers) > What's to stop someone in this hypothetical society from smearing shit all over themselves and doing crack? Are you okay with this in society? Do it. Just don't expect that if you do crack and attack someone afterwards, you won't be gunned down and recycled in the nearest meat grinder. > The welfare system was intended for people who need to get back on their feet. Because excessive regulations, pondering to the big corps that practically run the state with people having no say in it's inner systems are forcing them to get into this pathetic life style. > A temporary thing. Look up the statistics, there are millions upon millions of people who lived their whole LIVES demanding state's gibs. > Welfare should be abolished anyway. I don't see what's wrong with providing some sort of compensation for a life of service or helping those in need. But it must be done voluntarily, not taken in form of taxes. Google up the statistics of private charities and compare them to state department budgets. You will be amazed how ineffective and vile the latter are. > A communist utopia had more order by comparison. Working for ""pleasure"", because you don't HAVE to, because others do it for you for free? Spending your life enjoying sex and goods, because family and inheritance is literally forbidden? Basically living your life like an fat farm animal?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485946629 110423138,110452541,2017-02-01 11:01:54,">>110451234 in essence, your position is that of a ruthless authoritarian rooted in objective morality (for you) by punishing each and every personal freedom a citizen chooses to enjoy not because it's others footing the bill/taking responsibility for the consequences but because it conflicts with your beliefs on the other hand the source of your morality is ultimately forgiving af and absolves followers from all sins committed, as long as they make a mental note of accepting x as god and saviour you just want to rule over people, admit it; probably something borne out of your childhood or adolescence, pure sour grapes",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485946914 110423138,110453032,2017-02-01 11:06:07,">>110451234 And those morals come from the character of the people. The state could try and enforce those morals, but the people can turn around and change the rules. The only way you can fix the people is to convince them that they're justifiably committing to objectively bad behavior. Or you could go full Fascism and hold a gun to their heads. But even Fascism can enforce or be influenced into bad behaviors if bad leaders are in certain positions. In terms of America's bad behavior... she might be spiritually dead... even with Trump getting elected. We have many hedonists and socialists throughout that may have pushed us over the tipping point. Convincing them that these are bad paths to go down will not be easy, or may not even be possible. I'm expecting societal collapse and rebuilding. But I'm also hoping this is an event that happens worldwide. I don't want the Chinese to be the ones in charge of the world when it does happen. I don't want collapse though, and want the ship of western civilization to be turned around from going off that cliff. Lefties got a hold of a lot of important institutions that influence the moral fabric of our nation. >>110451616 I'll check this out after I wake up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485947167 110423138,110453496,2017-02-01 11:09:58,">>110451225 Start up the chopper.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485947398 110423138,110453807,2017-02-01 11:12:45,">>110451983 >If you are talking about law enforcement... No. I mean just enforcement in general. Whether by government or societal. >Do it. Nothing of the sort would be tolerated in my view. There would be no drugs. >Because excessive regulations Typical Jewish bullshit. >Look up the statistics, there are millions upon millions of people who lived their whole LIVES demanding state's gibs. Of course. Why do you think the kikes are importing so many third world hordes? They want to make them reliant on gibs in addition to the niggers. >Working for ""pleasure"", because you don't HAVE to, because others do it for you for free? I'm talking about communism in it's original USSR sense. Of course the modern vision by college teenage marxists is that kind of utopian horseshit. >>110452541 >your position is that of a ruthless authoritarian rooted in objective morality I am ruthless in that I would tolerate evil or degeneracy. Correct. >by punishing each and every personal freedom a citizen chooses to enjoy I would not tolerate a communist, or any of the insane cultural marxist/leftist shit we have now. No. >on the other hand the source of your morality is ultimately forgiving af and absolves followers from all sins committed It wouldn't be a theocracy but Christian values would be the norm. Yes. >you just want to rule over people, admit it; probably something borne out of your childhood or adolescence, pure sour grapes I have no desire to ""rule over people"", only to eliminate the scurge of degeneracy and evil. The only one who rules over man is God, and the only one who would rule over a society is an appointed leader, which I would not take.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485947565 110423138,110454342,2017-02-01 11:16:40,">>110453032 >And those morals come from the character of the people They ultimately come from God. >The only way you can fix the people is to convince them that they're justifiably committing to objectively bad behavior. Or you could go full Fascism and hold a gun to their heads. What is propaganda. >In terms of America's bad behavior... she might be spiritually dead... even with Trump getting elected. We have many hedonists and socialists throughout that may have pushed us over the tipping point. Convincing them that these are bad paths to go down will not be easy, or may not even be possible. I'm expecting societal collapse and rebuilding. But I'm also hoping this is an event that happens worldwide. I agree. Although society has already really collapsed in a sense. >Lefties got a hold of a lot of important institutions that influence the moral fabric of our nation. You mean marxist Jews.",,Anonymous,1472074966568.jpg,b74TTGrn6K37U5SRoZ6vjg==,US,,1485947800 110423138,110454503,2017-02-01 11:17:51,HEIL HOPPE,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1485947871 110423138,110454548,2017-02-01 11:18:11,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1485947891 110423138,110454605,2017-02-01 11:18:37,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1485947917 110423138,110454612,2017-02-01 11:18:42,">>110423138 Libertarian Capitalist checking in.",,Anonymous,1462826132667.jpg,JLyv7QNmOgWrG5i9slZlTw==,US,,1485947922 110423138,110454862,2017-02-01 11:20:54,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1485948054 110423138,110454913,2017-02-01 11:21:13,">>110453807 I would not tolerate evil or degeneracy*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485948073 110423138,110454916,2017-02-01 11:21:14,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1485948074 110423138,110455564,2017-02-01 11:26:15,">>110453807 > No. I mean just enforcement in general. Whether by government or societal. You need to dig a little bit deeper into the source of what you call ""degeneracy"". I repeat myself, but leniency mixed up with comfort and stagnation is the main source of degeneracy. You can't maintain happy and productive society if you don't place the responsibility to make a person happy on that person. And you can't make them in charge of their happiness until you give them freedom and property rights. > Nothing of the sort would be tolerated in my view. There would be no drugs. It's a gray zone, actually. Morphine is an addictive substance, which is a primary component of the most vile drugs in existence. Yet we need it for surgeries and medication, without it people will suffer from the insane amounts of unnecessary pain. You can't make a world with ""no drugs"" until you purge them all, and then you will have your black markets drowning in it anyway. > Typical Jewish bullshit. I agree, state regulations are most advantageous for (((them))). > Of course. Why do you think the kikes are importing so many third world hordes? They want to make them reliant on gibs in addition to the niggers In Libertarian society people won't state for it. Don't mix up comical strawman with an actual well-thought mainstream libertarianism. This is exactly why most non-meme Libertarians voted for Trump this year. > I'm talking about communism in it's original USSR sense. Of course the modern vision by college teenage marxists is that kind of utopian horseshit. You would be surprised how ""orderly"" and ""non-degenerate"" USSR was. My uncle was a gynaecologist in the pretty average USSR public clinic. Want to hear some stories about beautiful volkish proletariat?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485948375 110423138,110455606,2017-02-01 11:26:35,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1485948395 110423138,110455653,2017-02-01 11:26:55,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1485948415 110423138,110455814,2017-02-01 11:28:08,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,ZzQt4mV0UBQStrESUoOc5Q==,PT,,1485948488 110423138,110455826,2017-02-01 11:28:14,">>110453807 I respect your position but your foot would not tread far on sneks ITT, however there is absolutely no reason we couldn't be friendly neighbouring nations, engaging in trade and mutually worthwhile endeavours",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485948494 110423138,110456170,2017-02-01 11:31:02,">>110454503 You are my favorite poster. The eternal hoppean Portuguese.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485948662 110423138,110456242,2017-02-01 11:31:42,">>110456170 Thanks famalam!",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW_00000.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1485948702 110423138,110456307,2017-02-01 11:32:16,">>110454503 >>110454548 >>110454605 >>110454862 >>110454916 >>110455606 >>110455653 >>110455814 why are portuguese poster always the best ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485948736 110423138,110456329,2017-02-01 11:32:25,,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1485948745 110423138,110456434,2017-02-01 11:33:17,">>110456307 Many of us are uncucked from the Marxist shit that infests our society today. I love you too my man.",,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1485948797 110423138,110456920,2017-02-01 11:37:15,">>110456242 if that pic came true it would bring about the pinnacle of freedom and with it great competition, specialization and cooperation perhaps even world peace",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485949035 110423138,110456971,2017-02-01 11:37:35,">>110456170 I like Slovenian one better. There aren't of us left on /pol/, i'm afraid. I remember most of you from weeks ago.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1485949055 110423138,110457062,2017-02-01 11:38:20,">>110455564 >I repeat myself, but leniency mixed up with comfort and stagnation is the main source of degeneracy There could be programs and propaganda set in place to prevent it growing out of control. >And you can't make them in charge of their happiness until you give them freedom and property rights. Why wouldn't they have either? Unless that ""freedom"" is degenerate behavior that would harm society. >Morphine is an addictive substance, which is a primary component of the most vile drugs in existence. Yet we need it for surgeries and medication, without it people will suffer from the insane amounts of unnecessary pain. The reason pill mills are allowed to get away with supplying patients with morphine is because of the way our system is. Under a Fascist regime they wouldn't be allowed to. Everyone taking it for pain would be monitored carefully to make sure they don't become dependent. >and then you will have your black markets drowning in it anyway. Take a hint from Duterte. >Don't mix up comical strawman with an actual well-thought mainstream libertarianism. This is exactly why most non-meme Libertarians voted for Trump this year. I've heard every kind of libertarianism over the years here. It's like communism where everyone says THEIR particular version as never been tried or is the correct one. >You would be surprised how ""orderly"" and ""non-degenerate"" USSR was. Which is why I laugh at the college marxists here waving a faggot pride flag with a hammer & sickle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485949100 110423138,110457120,2017-02-01 11:38:38,">>110449498 shut up britcuck",,chin1375,,,CL,,1485949118 110423138,110457403,2017-02-01 11:40:51,Paleolibertarianism is the way,,chin1375,,,CL,,1485949251 110423138,110457472,2017-02-01 11:41:19,">>110455826 I suppose a more authoritarian libertarian right is better than any leftists. So long as we agree on certain core issues.",,Anonymous,1484013815996.gif,n3ME3cMHWYuKdBMLDyWRnw==,US,,1485949279 110423138,110457568,2017-02-01 11:41:59,">>110456920 You are absolutely right Slavbro. I hope that all the happenings that have occurred so far are a precursor to the Great Uncuckening of the world, when peoples everywhere will overthrow their governments and fuck off to their own ethnic/national/religious/private enclaves and rearrange civilization according to genuine free trade and civilized behavior.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1485949319 110423138,110457737,2017-02-01 11:43:15,">>110431518 I like dis but where do traditionalists fit in? I believe everything we do should be in accordance with man's nature and fighting against it (leftism) is satanic (in the original sense)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485949395 110423138,110457879,2017-02-01 11:44:24,">>110457737 >I believe everything we do should be in accordance with man's nature and fighting against it (leftism) is satanic (in the original sense) I agree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485949464 110423138,110457933,2017-02-01 11:44:49,"I like these snek memes btw am can I be a libertarian if i support law enforcement? Am I a moderate?",,Anonymous,1445937034136.jpg,WqOuL/iJWx2Q0x6v3SJjhw==,US,,1485949489 110423138,110458153,2017-02-01 11:46:26,">>110457933 you're a minarchist then",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485949586 110423138,110458346,2017-02-01 11:48:03,">>110457568 Specific ideological differences aside, I believe we can both agree that a better, civilized world is only possible with the eradication of leftism, Jews and Islam.",,Anonymous,1483482442915.jpg,Df7Ljaao1y8Lip73ms7LUw==,US,,1485949683 110423138,110458410,2017-02-01 11:48:34,">>110458153 Thank you bro, that actually is perfect for me",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485949714 110423138,110458813,2017-02-01 11:51:26,">>110458346 Sounds pretty good tbqh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485949886 110423138,110458843,2017-02-01 11:51:39,">mfw im the only geolibertarian on pol rent is theft and landlords = the state",,Anonymous,download (1).jpg,MaYndMTKnwU4+2YpvW+MNA==,US,,1485949899 110423138,110458885,2017-02-01 11:51:58,,,Anonymous,IMG_3929.jpg,/MA3khEJFfQJsUmrQ54UAw==,US,,1485949918 110423138,110459130,2017-02-01 11:53:55,">>110458346 Jews need to be sorted out between the good ones (von Mises, Rothbard, the scientists, engineers) and the stereotypical kike ones who use the state to destroy civilization. Islam needs to be reformed severely and if not, then fuck it, there would be no such thing as ""freedom of migration"" under a private property anarchy, so we'd be free to throw them into the ocean whenever they tried to reach our shores. Leftism is eradicated once you abolish public education and welfare. Without public education, parents will have full authority over their children's education, and usable skills, professions and knowledge will once again trump moral relativism, ""PC"" history and indocrination. No welfare will make sure feminists, professional and moral failures, and criminals are forced to behave and integrate, lest they want to be expelled from everywhere. It'll be beautiful.",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1485950035 110423138,110459285,2017-02-01 11:55:02,">>110458843 So what like squatters rights? Sounds pretty lefty to me.",,Anonymous,1474112220591.jpg,T64KL89oh+sSnd8GRCuTIw==,US,,1485950102 110423138,110459404,2017-02-01 11:55:54,">>110459130 >the good ones Ha. >Islam needs to be reformed severely No.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485950154 110423138,110459522,2017-02-01 11:56:48,">>110423138 >AnarchoCapitalism newfag or redditfag?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1485950208 110423138,110459629,2017-02-01 11:57:28,">>110459130 Islam can't be by definition be reformed without being stoned to death just leave these cunts into their desert and let them die out",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485950248 110423138,110459857,2017-02-01 11:59:10,">>110459285 It's not though. Its pretty much being libertarian but also believing that the land itself cannot be owned and rents extracted from the land should go to the commons all taxes should be abolished other than a single land value tax",,Anonymous,FreeEarth.png,qGpO58RlX1b/APgZi7GsLA==,US,,1485950350 110423138,110459908,2017-02-01 11:59:40,">>110459522 Spotted the newfag. You have to go back",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485950380 110423138,110459964,2017-02-01 12:00:06,">>110459404 Considering An-Capism was basically invented by Rothbard, a jew, and the Austrian School was also popularized by von Mises, a jew, and both men were 100% right about everything, yeah, I'd say some Jews are alright. Look at the people Rothbard used to hang out with. >>110459629 That can be arranged, too. Private property allows us to expel or include whomever we want, that's the beauty of it.",,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1485950406 110423138,110460811,2017-02-01 12:06:03,">>110459908 No one on /pol/ calls themselves AnarchoCapitalists. That's very much an Jew media phrase. JewCrew detected.",,Anonymous,1467773468756.png,dJklOxxLZypohz3CiRC9QQ==,IE,,1485950763 110423138,110461252,2017-02-01 12:09:04,">>110459964 >Considering An-Capism I'm not an AnCap. I'm a Fascist. And while some Jews may be okay or correct in certain situations, like there are exceptional negroes, I would never trust one.",,Anonymous,1447789334162.png,qBBSWCgPHzPN94AKbGE9MQ==,US,,1485950944 110423138,110461604,2017-02-01 12:11:34,">>110461252 No place for a fascist in a libertarian thread Youll never convince a libertarian to become a stateist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951094 110423138,110461752,2017-02-01 12:12:33,">>110461252 >even motherfucking Voltaire couldn't stand kikes well I didn't even considered this probabilty",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485951153 110423138,110461836,2017-02-01 12:13:07,,,Anonymous,pinochet libertarianism.jpg,H0BPaUFDW5ymHn47zx3rZg==,US,,1485951187 110423138,110461975,2017-02-01 12:14:08,">>110459629 Objectively wrong. There are Muslims who advocate reform. You're just pulling the ""not TRUE Muslims"" card.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951248 110423138,110461996,2017-02-01 12:14:17,">>110461604 You should read the thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951257 110423138,110462140,2017-02-01 12:15:14,">>110461975 >There are Muslims who advocate reform https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951314 110423138,110462150,2017-02-01 12:15:17,">""roads"" Welp your ideology has been dismanteled",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485951317 110423138,110462340,2017-02-01 12:16:44,">>110461975 and what other muslims think of them ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485951404 110423138,110462403,2017-02-01 12:17:11,">>110462150 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLEUX7ckqBQ >2017 >still being a roadcuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951431 110423138,110462455,2017-02-01 12:17:36,">>110461252 Ah, my bad then. I thought you were an an-cap too.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485951456 110423138,110462600,2017-02-01 12:18:47,">>110462140 Nice meme. Taqiyya means that Muslims can violate customs if their life depends on it. It's not a tactic of subversion, contrary to what tinfoil hat infographics claim.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951527 110423138,110462683,2017-02-01 12:19:16,">>110462340 Depends on which ones. Some hate them and call for them to be killed, while others accept them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951556 110423138,110462734,2017-02-01 12:19:40,">>110462600 >tinfoil hat infographics Can't tell if leftist swine or lying sandnigger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951580 110423138,110463092,2017-02-01 12:22:23,">>110462600 they are in eternal war with the west living in europe is enough for them on going full taqiyya",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485951743 110423138,110463191,2017-02-01 12:23:09,">>110431942 Lysander Spooner persuasively deconstructed the whole idea of a binding law existing for more than a single generation, if that. Thus, e.g., the Constitution may have been binding on the generation that voted for it, but not the next generation. And his logic on this front is really quite persuasive. That said, I don't think we can live without that myth, and the Constitution, on the whole, has been invaluable - the sine qua non - in creating all that is best and enduring about America. I'm not ready for mere anarchy, yet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951789 110423138,110463298,2017-02-01 12:23:56,">>110462600 > lying > not a tactic kys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951836 110423138,110463501,2017-02-01 12:25:24,">>110435332 What does ""spook"" mean here, please?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485951924 110423138,110463617,2017-02-01 12:26:25,,,Anonymous,donttread.jpg,ThOMH7rmkDgCn9txVYe4Pg==,US,,1485951985 110423138,110464272,2017-02-01 12:31:27,">>110463501 it's from Stirner for him every form of idea that isn't 100% yours is a spook that block the enlightment of your ego he basically made egoism it's own philosophy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485952287 110423138,110464521,2017-02-01 12:33:23,sup brothers,,Anonymous,1472480202896.jpg,XDqd2wM4txFN6A5wR1odqA==,PT,,1485952403 110423138,110465013,2017-02-01 12:37:08,">>110464521 sup famalamdingdong",,Anonymous,pMoScCQ.png,S80ERntPUuAi59+rsJ5h6Q==,PT,,1485952628 110423138,110465238,2017-02-01 12:38:44,">>110465013 my exams ended. coffee sometime in the coming weeks?",,Anonymous,hoppeanism.png,/yCVyLxXc08n4wtK5PdSew==,PT,,1485952724 110423138,110465240,2017-02-01 12:38:45,">>110464521 sup how's the markets going ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485952725 110423138,110465441,2017-02-01 12:40:15,">>110465238 what would minarchism looks like ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485952815 110423138,110465736,2017-02-01 12:42:21,">>110465238 Yeah, hit me up whenever you feel like it and we can arrange something.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485952941 110423138,110465774,2017-02-01 12:42:32,">>110464272 Hmm... kind of interesting. Thanks, bra",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485952952 110423138,110466178,2017-02-01 12:45:25,">>110465441 minarchism is the brain-throne, pic-related is ancap.",,Anonymous,1481354070113.jpg,RoLRfAw2mLrLTbCMmoTX2A==,US,,1485953125 110423138,110466320,2017-02-01 12:46:31,">>110465774 sometimes it's used by /leftypol/ faggots because ""xdddd property is a spook"" but they don't even know that Engels wrote a poem where he go full autistic screetching when he talks about Stirner",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485953191 110423138,110466520,2017-02-01 12:48:03,">>110465238 Where does post-Rerum Novarum, non-leftist Catholic social teaching fit ?",,Anonymous,Leo_XIII..jpg,n73pJSQ3kuMqQ32Yun9Ziw==,US,,1485953283 110423138,110466841,2017-02-01 12:50:12,">>110466320 Thanks. What is it about this meme fad that seems to obsess certain quarters of 4chan, eg the dudes at /lit/ ? I don't get the turn-on..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485953412 110423138,110467444,2017-02-01 12:54:53,">>110466178 >who will build the roads? >toll,roadless vehicules and jets exists you know >what stops private armies fight eachothers >profit,war is endless debt,also who stops public armies ? >what stops pedophiles ? >what is ostracism ? do you believe responsible parents don't exists without a government ? and what if the child consent,you think it's moral to stop the love of a child ? >really made me think",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485953693 110423138,110467791,2017-02-01 12:57:16,">>110466841 the spook meme or you're talking about something else ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485953836 110423138,110468740,2017-02-01 13:03:52,">privatized courts How the fuck would this even work?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1485954232 110423138,110469874,2017-02-01 13:13:00,">>110468740 both parties to a dispute agree to settle the matter through an impartial justice provider, most likely a well-respected and experienced elder or a group of elders from their or other communities, to hear each of their cases and make a decision",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485954780 110423138,110470215,2017-02-01 13:15:35,">>110468740 Parties in dispute bring their cases to a person or group of persons (impartial arbitrators) of renowned moral virtue, personal achievement and natural authority. Since Justice would be sold on the free market, there would be maximum competition by Justice providers to fulfill their duties correctly and fairly according to natural law.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485954935 110423138,110470622,2017-02-01 13:18:56,">>110469874 what's your strategy for turning slovenia ancap? i mean 80% of ""us"" are commies and we only have like 2 helicopters that we can barely pay for",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485955136 110423138,110471443,2017-02-01 13:25:20,">>110470622 Realistically we can only hope ethnic/cultural/economic/social tensions become so increased that everyone will want to secede from each other. With some luck, those tensions will coincide with the fall of welfare states. Otherwise, it's bottom-down revolution like Hoppe says in ""What Must be Done.""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485955520 110423138,110471849,2017-02-01 13:28:19,">>110470622 hopeless in my lifetime, fampai; the commies really did a number on us, as you concluded by yourself already I'm doing my best to minimize my exposure by: -being self-employed and paying myself min wage (because taxes and contributions), I work on projects through my network (was 10 years a wageslave) -having entered the gold market at the time it was in its looooong bull run and stacking -having entered the memecoin market -living debt-free on my property, producing much of my food and dreaming of one day having a small hydroelectric power plant -not being consumerist, my purchases are big but lasting (machinery and firearms for example)",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485955699 110423138,110472179,2017-02-01 13:30:47,">>110423138 >Physical removal >Digital medium Ehh, I'll settle for mods that arent completely fucking worthless. Ban me fuckers.",,Anonymous,IMG_20170131_232939.jpg,hoOfP/ZfVIYVIGfBwxpxpg==,US,,1485955847 110423138,110472977,2017-02-01 13:36:43,How can you genuinely guarantee a workable level of stability without governance?,,Anonymous,roads-doe_howbow-dah.jpg,oraamd3P+hrG72rEiJdhHQ==,GB,,1485956203 110423138,110473084,2017-02-01 13:37:26,">>110471849 C-can I come to Slovenia too? Beautiful country you got there, I just want to get away from the leftist and sun-baked tragedy that Moortugal has become. I want to live comfy simple by a village and shitpost on my free time.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485956246 110423138,110473142,2017-02-01 13:37:50,">>110472977 State /= governance",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485956270 110423138,110473340,2017-02-01 13:39:17,">>110446584 >I'm not entirely for a 100% stateless society however. Too many outside threats to the libertarian social order for that. A quick example is having and maintaining a standing Military. A necessity if you do not wish for other nation states to tread on your rights. That's minarchism or classical liberalism then. Like the founding fathers, especially ones like Jefferson. While an-cap is the goal, that is probably the best system that can be achieved anytime soon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485956357 110423138,110473728,2017-02-01 13:42:08,">>110473084 you'd actually do better by staying because your min wage is lower than mine, then there's the ethnic difference which is painful; I've done a stint abroad and there's no place like home you also didn't experience communism for half a century and left with poisoned minds on many a compatriot",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485956528 110423138,110473840,2017-02-01 13:42:52,,,Anonymous,i am what is nec hiss ary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,GB,,1485956572 110423138,110473961,2017-02-01 13:43:38,">>110473728 It's okay, Sloveniabro. I respect you still.",,Anonymous,25.05.2008 18-03-27_0161-L.jpg,sKrrup9UmnqsWepc4OKotQ==,PT,,1485956618 110423138,110474506,2017-02-01 13:47:18,">>110471849 sounds very comfy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485956838 110423138,110474775,2017-02-01 13:48:59,">>110471849 Have you invested in any capital yet, esspecially in the form of automation? Don't know whwre you guys are on the road to ""capitalism"" as per wealth of nations, but being able to start mass producing stuff can go a long way to advancing a country. And if you own it, you can hold a lot of power and sway over the government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485956939 110423138,110475474,2017-02-01 13:53:09,">>110467791 The spook meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485957189 110423138,110476138,2017-02-01 13:56:58,">>110473961 pic related describes the cunt well: don't stand out either on the low end or the high end, mediocrity rules >>110474775 Nope, taxes here are most oppressive on everything; in stocks your gains get eaten by taxes and fees, flipping real estate is also taxed to hell while the market itself is barely alive (bubble), hence gold and memecoins I'll have completed a fully-fledged machine shop in 5 years' time at my place, then I'll be able to make whatever",,Anonymous,pathologically egalitarian.jpg,2ubu2shLCaih9WSr9/Ey0w==,SI,,1485957418 110423138,110476182,2017-02-01 13:57:12,Where can I order an ANCAP flag in Europe?,,Anonymous,anarcho_capitalism_wallpaper_by_appriweb-d5xfm41.jpg,tvWQnUfvkFouSs6hWZGMwQ==,NL,,1485957432 110423138,110476872,2017-02-01 14:00:57,">>110476182 Any Amazon website?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485957657 110423138,110476921,2017-02-01 14:01:15,">>110475474 because yelling at everyone who isn't a dick or responsible is spooked is very seducing for a board as pseudo-intellectual than /lit/ (and we're the tinfoil hat retards board here)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485957675 110423138,110477539,2017-02-01 14:04:52,">>110476182 Dude make one. You just need two pieces of fabric.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485957892 110423138,110477580,2017-02-01 14:05:07,">>110474775 we're a german colony of industrial suppliers and cheap assembly of overpriced products, tourism is big and getting bigger people on average work for gov't, gov't-controlled companies, several ""big"" enterprises (pharma, petrochemical, telco, banking, insurance, consumer goods) and service industry #1 customer in the country are a multitude of state budget users there are world-class individuals and small businesses tho, things like injection moulding, tooling, production line engineering and similar niche stuff",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485957907 110423138,110478331,2017-02-01 14:09:38,">>110465736 great",,Anonymous,hoppe-vs-stirner.png,TeH8OoNDCmu0IV9JpjQLNw==,PT,,1485958178 110423138,110479314,2017-02-01 14:15:18,"The claim that property is only yours because the government protects it is demonstrably false. The institution of property not only predates government, it predates the human species. A primitive form of property is observed in many animal species. It's called territorial behaviour and it is the predecessor of the human conception of private property. A member of the species marks out his claim to a certain area of the territory and will fight more and more desperately against the trespasser of its own species and gender that crosses into that territory. And the essential fact here is that unless two members of the species are very unequal in size and strength, a fight to the death is a loss for both. Because the winner is likely to get injured more than it's ever worth fighting for. And given that, if I know that the claimant has somehow committed himself to fight as hard as he has to to defend his territory, it doesn't pay me to trespass and the result is not that trespassing never happens but that as a general rule the claimant manages to defend his territory and trespassers retreat when they are challenged. This can be reasonably recognised as property that is enforced by commitment strategies.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485958518 110423138,110479435,2017-02-01 14:16:01,">>110473142 People will always get behind those who appear strongest. Governments will always have support. Even if we woke up and they were all gone, someone will step up to make another one and pwn all.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485958561 110423138,110479494,2017-02-01 14:16:25,"Libertardians are open borders cucks. Protectionist nationalism is the past and the future.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485958585 110423138,110479885,2017-02-01 14:18:45,">>110479314 >mfw this entire post",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1485958725 110423138,110479917,2017-02-01 14:18:53,">>110479494 >Libertardians are open borders cucks. W R O N G",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485958733 110423138,110480226,2017-02-01 14:20:30,">>110479494 >open borders >implying private property can somehow be ""open"" to non-proprietors >protectionism >implying genuine free trade between peoples isn't a tremendous benefit and that we'd all be better off if we couldn't trade with anyone else You know, Mr. Buchanan, I like you on social issues, but your economics is retarded.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485958830 110423138,110480282,2017-02-01 14:20:47,">>110479494 Nope. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/11/lew-rockwell/open-borders-assault-private-property/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485958847 110423138,110480366,2017-02-01 14:21:14,">>110459130 >Jews need to be sorted out between the good ones and the stereotypical kike ones who use the state to destroy civilization. Some may be in between. David Friedman kicks ass left and right on his Machinery of Freedom but then goes FULL retard on a little chapter called 'Open the Gates' where he essentially makes no arguments and advocates for America to seppuku by opening the borders to what even he considers immigrants with lower living standards within a statist society. Very odd. He is nonetheless an asset and a genial Jew. He also seems to be redpilled on race and intelligence: http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.nl/2008/08/who-is-against-evolution.html",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,4fkhWz1XydteSxCbRN7ycQ==,NL,,1485958874 110423138,110480644,2017-02-01 14:22:46,">>110423138 Give me one example of a working anarcho-caitalist society that isn't Somalia and happened less than 500 years ago (so none of your usual ancient Ireland tribal peasant nonsense )",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485958966 110423138,110480842,2017-02-01 14:24:04,">>110480644 walled city",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485959044 110423138,110481088,2017-02-01 14:25:25,">>110480644 Medieval Europe and its free cities Also, literally every action you and another adult commit in full consent without the permit of the state is a remnant of anarcho-capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485959125 110423138,110481911,2017-02-01 14:30:08,">>110479494 Refugee crisis would have been IMPOSSIBLE in an anarcho-capitalist society. Cultural Marxism would have been IMPOSSIBLE to spread in an anarcho-capitalist society. Mass immigration and demographic collapse of natives would have been IMPOSSIBLE in an anarcho-capitalist society.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485959408 110423138,110482167,2017-02-01 14:31:33,">>110481911 This. We had less state before and less cultural relativism/cuckery before.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1485959493 110423138,110482479,2017-02-01 14:33:10,"Guys, this is bad - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/climate-change-game-over-global-warming-climate-sensitivity-seven-degrees-a7407881.html",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1485959590 110423138,110482638,2017-02-01 14:34:08,">>110459130 >Jews need to be sorted out between the good ones (von Mises, Rothbard, the scientists, engineers) and the stereotypical kike ones who use the state to destroy civilization. Aka: you're actually agreeing with the previous Anon's point. >Islam needs to be reformed severely Islam won't be reformed; Islam will reform European nations via demographic invasion, if they are allowed to - entirely different ""reformations"" going on. >and if not, then fuck it, there would be no such thing as ""freedom of migration"" under a private property anarchy, so we'd be free to throw them into the ocean whenever they tried to reach our shores. Assuming the invaders wouldn't do so to you and other Europeans first (aka: as it is metaphorically happening as we speak). >Leftism is eradicated once you abolish public education and welfare. Leftism is ultimately a consequence of Jewish infiltration and subversion of European civilization; as long as Jews are allowed to continue to parasitise White nations, there will be always a re-emergence of all kinds of ""Leftisms"", ""Feminisms"" and ""moral failures"" in the respective era, so I'm afraid you are wrong.",,Anonymous,Semitic attack pattern.jpg,LQaGHoJiEWOZSaHDls09kQ==,PT,,1485959648 110423138,110482957,2017-02-01 14:35:57,">>110459130 >Without public education, parents will have full authority over their children's education, and usable skills, professions and knowledge will once again trump moral relativism, ""PC"" history and indocrination. No welfare will make sure feminists, professional and moral failures, and criminals are forced to behave and integrate, lest they want to be expelled from everywhere. ""Public education"" is one of the many vectors spreading suicidalism, but it is very far from being the only ones, nor a coincidence it was subverted by foreign interests to begin with; mass media, for instance, effectively practically indirectly run democracy (or rather: the (((interests))) behind the mass media do). What is ""acceptable"" and not will thus be always dependent on the interests that monopolize this plethora of variables, and (((guess who))) is necessarily is going to be at the centre of it all?",,Anonymous,Novus Ordo Seclorum.jpg,ZEcQ72jIF+xhckXFSLsXQw==,PT,,1485959757 110423138,110483807,2017-02-01 14:41:20,">>110482479 No, that isn't ""bad"". Pic related is bad.",,Anonymous,IQ.png,ZrSGHTaiedg95YbkV13T5A==,PT,,1485960080 110423138,110484777,2017-02-01 14:46:39,">>110483807 their numbers will most likely ""self-regulate"" projections are one thing but we're talking africa here: governance in name only, warlords errywhere, disease, basic utilities missing, existing (colonial) infrastructure dilapidating... chinks won't do shit for them either",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1485960399 110423138,110485308,2017-02-01 14:49:48,">>110480842 A Few questions. What would pass as an anarcho-capitalist society? I know that Hoppean libertarianism allows for virtually any form of social organization as long as the relationships involved are voluntary. Does that mean that we would be looking at a large area (the continental U.S. for example), that is filled with a patchwork of municipal corps, city states, and anything else that might form naturally in a free market? If so, what really holds it all together insofar as property rights is concerned? Wouldn't some of these micro societies fight each other without a state structure with a higher court of some kind to arbitrate disputes for them?",,Anonymous,800px-2010_American_City-States_current.png,oehzQgz6fhOjt/QnoJUFtA==,US,,1485960588 110423138,110485638,2017-02-01 14:51:40,">>110482167 It was not ""less state"" that was the cause of less cultural relativism/cuckery: it was the Jews' repression/expulsion. The Jewish emancipation was ultimately the cause of cultural relativism/cuckery. >>110484777 >their numbers will most likely ""self-regulate"" Their numbers will indeed ""self-regulate""... by moving them to White nations first. >projections are one thing but we're talking africa here: governance in name only, warlords errywhere, disease, basic utilities missing, existing (colonial) infrastructure dilapidating... Precisely - Africans won't just stick around good'ol Mother Africa to die of thirst or starve to death - they will move North in the greatest exodus in human history.",,Anonymous,'''European''' Union.png,jnyd5XU+KQY2cjx2FVDd/w==,PT,,1485960700 110423138,110486117,2017-02-01 14:54:21,HAHAHA HEY GUYS LOOK AT MY COOL IDEOLOGY AREN'T MY MEMES SO FUNNY HAHAHAHAH?!?!?,,Anonymous,1481239884388.jpg,11EmmstzStNnLFBMBIlPOA==,US,,1485960861 110423138,110486352,2017-02-01 14:55:48,">>110486117 Libertarians are here since a long time Stop pretending having monopoly faggot",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1485960948 110423138,110486354,2017-02-01 14:55:48,">>110485308 >Wouldn't some of these micro societies fight each other without a state structure with a higher court of some kind to arbitrate disputes for them? Correct, and then, after getting eliminated in their societies by various means, all their property is completely swallowed up by the invading biological competitors.",,Anonymous,Ethnocentric domination.gif,zvJey92Jb7xsJDZ6t+u+bw==,PT,,1485960948 110423138,110486756,2017-02-01 14:58:02,">>110486117 Look at me guise! I'm fashy! I'm fashy guys! Am I part of the club!?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485961082 110423138,110486944,2017-02-01 14:59:13,">>110443036 underrated",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485961153 110423138,110487993,2017-02-01 15:05:18,">>110486756 ""Look at me guise! I'm extinct! I'm extinct guys! Am I part of the club!?""",,Anonymous,Gause's law.png,dMkAexAwjgwvf7q25lDKNw==,PT,,1485961518 110423138,110488080,2017-02-01 15:05:46,">>110473840 >my response to when a lefty posts a meme about Pinochet libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485961546 110423138,110488572,2017-02-01 15:08:37,>>110424545,,Anonymous,ancap snake communists.png,t9v2a9vrXkVG3hw8psjqDQ==,US,,1485961717 110423138,110489025,2017-02-01 15:11:13,">>110486117 >I AM SILLY go back to stormfront",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485961873 110423138,110490910,2017-02-01 15:22:23,Goodbye thread.,,Anonymous,snek (5).png,MJvu4y5+xVqAoM6WQhHWFw==,US,,1485962543 110423138,110491239,2017-02-01 15:24:24,">>110423138 Gerogian land tax system when?",,Anonymous,Political_chart.svg.png,7OvQQRuZE+SbFTHD2GuzLw==,US,,1485962664 110423138,110492035,2017-02-01 15:29:43,">>110489025 And that's exactly why it doesn't work. You won't just be able to tell your competitors to go elsewhere like that; you must FORCE them to, or your biological competitors will force their existence over yours' and your peoples'. For example, anti-Whites/Europhobes (Globalists, all manners of Jewish Bolsheviks, anti-""Racists"", ""Human""itarians, etc.) have reduced peoples of European descent so thoroughly, that they regard Europeans as creatures even below animals; you see, if one is advocating against any animal's extinction, all is perfectly fine, no one bats an eye, but if you dare to argue against the Europeans' extinction you are suddenly the worst creature in existence, a secular anti-Christ. The fact is that to anti-Whites, Europeans are nothing but food: a piece of meat to be devoured out of existence by mass non-European immigration on the one hand, and the (((great Globalist interests))) stimulating these events on the other hand.",,Anonymous,Syrian children ~uguu.webm,ZIeV+turzC62YI+bApFjZQ==,PT,,1485962983 110423138,110492198,2017-02-01 15:30:47,if your sitting in front of your computer at 1700 EST check out the radical agenda podcast on youtube. It's good times,,Anonymous,RA.jpg,diMGN9SINvorYEy7USpQVg==,US,,1485963047 110423138,110492531,2017-02-01 15:32:56,">>110492035 When did I say I was ancap? I just don't like fascists and commies who think they own /pol/.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485963176 110423138,110492963,2017-02-01 15:35:30,">>110423138 Daily reminder that capitalism won. We beat the fascist, communists, liberals, we've gone to space and are on our way to colonizing it soon, we've developed technology beyond compare of anything the regressive socialists could've ever dreamed up, and we now have armies and empires so massive that simply nothing compares. Now we shall tear down the Federal Reserve, rip out the regulations, and open up the floodgates of protectionism, and abundance shall flow forth.",,Anonymous,ho!.jpg,sGWLuKJ5s5dIDzC6lfXYTQ==,US,,1485963330 110423138,110493176,2017-02-01 15:36:50,how do you have sex without violating the NAP?,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1485963410 110423138,110493294,2017-02-01 15:37:32,">>110492963 You should looka around yourself. Communism is on the rise disguised as antifa and other leftist idiocies. You need to watch out the situation in america is getting more dangerous and dangerous.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1485963452 110423138,110494470,2017-02-01 15:45:18,">>110449498 >le china meme have you considered suicide",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485963918 110423138,110494793,2017-02-01 15:47:35,">>110492963 While it is true that the economic and political battle with Communism was won during the Cold War, the cultural aspect was, most unfortunately, won by the Jewish Bolsheviks, who have managed to infiltrate Western Civilization with their mental illness to the point they've managed to induce it in collective suicide or, as Orwell put it (particularly true of the leftist useful idiot gentiles/non-Jews): >So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot.",,Anonymous,White privilege.png,IwE2Y05jaLqQYUVDEWiKgQ==,PT,,1485964055 110423138,110495545,2017-02-01 15:52:19,">>110493294 I know antifa has gotten bold and been chalking shit all over universities here, it's a shame our forefathers died for this shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485964339 110423138,110495745,2017-02-01 15:53:32,">>110495545 There is a movement that will gain motion this month promoting capitalism, patriotism and reminding people that communism is bad. Hopefully it gets some recognition from the media in a few months.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1485964412 110423138,110495822,2017-02-01 15:53:59,">>110495545 The movement is in america.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1485964439 110423138,110496159,2017-02-01 15:56:07,">>110494793 >Pat Buchanen >not insane",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485964567 110423138,110496369,2017-02-01 15:57:31,"Libertarian right is oxymoronic, dumbass. You can't be a left libertarian; then you're just a liberal.",,Anonymous,1485359694858.png,EsP7SoyLfhFLmkGCCb+jCg==,US,,1485964651 110423138,110496836,2017-02-01 16:00:41,">>110449498 >what is tort law Come on, plz bring honest arguments.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485964841 110423138,110497084,2017-02-01 16:02:20,">>110450246 >The tragedy of the commons will happen with absolutely everything except for physical space This is so retarded.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485964940 110423138,110497602,2017-02-01 16:05:35,">>110459857 This is literally just communism. The tragedy of the commons always applies, doesn't matter what you're try to communize.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1485965135 110423138,110498496,2017-02-01 16:11:06,">>110496369 To be pedantic, you can't be left liberal either. Liberal means less government. They just co-opted the term for socialism. That's why we came up with 'libertarian'",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1485965466 110423138,110498934,2017-02-01 16:13:59,">>110495822 I hope so, it seems so much tension is building to something, but I felt the same way for awhile now, so it's hard to tell. I hope I can have a nation that we are proud of, and not have it fall to theses degenerative leftists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1485965639 110423138,110499301,2017-02-01 16:16:22,">>110492531 The point I was making was that, no matter how impartial we might pretend we are (i.e. that isn't truly going to make us ""correcter"", see: >>110487993), the fact of the matter is that, thanks to the series of vast changes in global demography and it's future implications [>>110483807], the West's very capability to tolerate Globalists and Commies is necessarily going to exponentially diminish amongst Europeans (and exponentially increase in non-Europeans' favour) and eventually run out at some point, leaving us with only two options in the end: >1. European peoples necessarily become more ethnocentric and forcibly exclude Globalist evolutionary failure suicidalists out of White countries; >2. Extinction. Us telling those traitors or kebabs or Africans to GTFO, by itself, is not going to mean anything; the real question is if we have the capabilities to enforce their departure from our lands as a means to truly substantiate our words and existence.",,Anonymous,Fernando Pessoa.png,+nl0f/d5J3PBfO+nlR5HxA==,PT,,1485965782 110423138,110500301,2017-02-01 16:22:41,">>110496159 He's completely right in that particular instance, though.",,Anonymous,Cultural Marxist vicious cycle.jpg,XC3gQw0f0nGrZfHfMgJ2HQ==,PT,,1485966161 111057121,111057121,2017-02-04 16:02:03,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads. I can't beleve this thing is still for sale. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191581560273?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true >Hey, where's my free breadsticks? Right this way if you will please board the free breadstick Air-Shuttle we will take your breadsticks",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FREE BREADSTICKS EDITION,Anonymous,1485946925894.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,IL,,1486224123 111057121,111057230,2017-02-04 16:02:48,,,Anonymous,1485946944615.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,IL,,1486224168 111057121,111057307,2017-02-04 16:03:23,,,Anonymous,1485946964418.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,IL,,1486224203 111057121,111057388,2017-02-04 16:04:00,"Libertarian right is an oxymoron. It's >I like capitalism, but I also like women to trample my balls in stilettos Capitalism is pointless without a strong, militant state to pair with it, and libertarianism would wish to deconstruct this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486224240 111057121,111057503,2017-02-04 16:04:51,">>111057121 420 deathsquad reportan",,Anonymous,1485809742139.png,Nrx+cxQCzj86/KroRDrnKQ==,US,,1486224291 111057121,111057841,2017-02-04 16:07:31,">>111057388 >free market in a free society is an oxymoron",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1486224451 111057121,111058468,2017-02-04 16:11:58,,,Anonymous,1485810116625.png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1486224718 111057121,111058688,2017-02-04 16:13:37,">>111057121 Tell me Jew, why do most of your people support leftism? Aside from the occasional based Jew like Ben Shapiro, most of your people seem to be oddly supportive of the left.",,Anonymous,ancapsnek.jpg,vNPbYnDp8s2qkWqmd3ArjQ==,US,,1486224817 111057121,111058959,2017-02-04 16:15:34,end it,,Anonymous,1485892682293.jpg,VzeT4FV7ee6Y10eV1iZKsA==,US,,1486224934 111057121,111059654,2017-02-04 16:20:25,">>111058688 Im guessing most of them are just getting on the bandwagon of promoting leftism to earn more shekels.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1486225225 111057121,111060303,2017-02-04 16:24:42,,,Anonymous,1485956136069.png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,IL,,1486225482 111057121,111060517,2017-02-04 16:26:18,,,Anonymous,1485951000930.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,IL,,1486225578 111057121,111060603,2017-02-04 16:27:02,,,Anonymous,1485950189384.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,IL,,1486225622 111057121,111060682,2017-02-04 16:27:36,,,Anonymous,1485954248807.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,IL,,1486225656 111057121,111060851,2017-02-04 16:28:51,">>111057388 Capitalism requires no state at all anon, only the freedom to do what you want with what you own.",,Anonymous,bird.png,+6lsERRqRmfMHty31UR6zA==,US,,1486225731 111057121,111061013,2017-02-04 16:29:57,">jew >encourages cuckbertarianism",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1486225797 111057121,111061967,2017-02-04 16:36:40,,,Anonymous,cdc-fhr-race-15.png,mnJ4LSQhw7ScrlqnZbwljg==,US,,1486226200 111057121,111061981,2017-02-04 16:36:46,">>111061013 How does it feel being the governments bitch anon? How does it feel to have them breathing down your neck, taking your wealth, telling you what you can do with what you own, telling you they know what's best, all they need is more power, more control, more trust from you?",,Anonymous,blackandyellow.jpg,WHL6zilB2v5vtzfhgAiSDA==,US,,1486226206 111057121,111062034,2017-02-04 16:37:14,,,Anonymous,1486088884592.png,Ojlqu3jHhFdLO/PCLvrnlA==,US,,1486226234 111057121,111062485,2017-02-04 16:40:08,">>111057121 someone said sneks?",,Anonymous,no_step_on_apophis.png,LQ4Eg4SmB8BGj0TVGQU5TA==,DE,,1486226408 111057121,111063156,2017-02-04 16:44:53,">>111062034 what is this shit? national socialism and fascism are both incompatible with liberty. to an libertarian it's the same as socialism (because it is).",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486226693 111057121,111063596,2017-02-04 16:48:04,">>111062485 Liberty and God, going together like commies and starvation since 1776.",,Anonymous,crosnek.jpg,A89J5Rp5dR+Ru00ACp2p6A==,US,,1486226884 111057121,111063755,2017-02-04 16:49:01,">>111061981 this. statists are the actual cucks",,Anonymous,1485953287457.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,IL,,1486226941 111057121,111064038,2017-02-04 16:50:55,I like this flag a lot,,Anonymous,ancapflag.png,1eueN7RjmGNPB20JMS7s5g==,US,,1486227055 111057121,111064332,2017-02-04 16:52:57,>ITT: I'd unironically rather be ruled by an amoral corporation than a government.,,Anonymous,1485783508823.png,Z+xBHY4TdI7BC/qhE486PA==,SE,,1486227177 111057121,111064474,2017-02-04 16:53:49,">>111063156 it's form a thread yesterday about how Libertarians and fascists should join forces against marxists",,Anonymous,1485946370298.png,puWObVIy2htyameuK7IKdw==,NO,,1486227229 111057121,111065023,2017-02-04 16:57:34,">>111057121 FREEDOOOOOM",,Anonymous,image.jpg,2kN5EdZvr2odBwPfM+kmGw==,FR,,1486227454 111057121,111065229,2017-02-04 16:59:11,">>111064332 It's up to you. If you do choose to succeed you can without and conflict rising out of it. In a free society you can guarantee that some will choose to live under a monopolistic government like we have today.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486227551 111057121,111065241,2017-02-04 16:59:16,">>111064332 At least corporations don't have the almost religious attitude surrounding them that keeps them upheld. If someone thinks a corporation is being a jerk, everyone stops buying their crap and they go out of business. If a government is being a jerk, it's ""necessary evil"" and ""upholding stability"", it just needed even more of your money, that's why it is failing, if we don't keep it propped up everything will descend into CHAOS! Or at least that's what the statists tell me.",,Anonymous,gad.png,LQAOdbBD/9bc3mHWuvMScA==,US,,1486227556 111057121,111065488,2017-02-04 17:01:00,">>111064332 Government need to be amoral for maintaining their power Corporation not necesserely",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486227660 111057121,111065492,2017-02-04 17:01:01,,,Anonymous,1486013921938.png,oeZ4CrAIo3WNuOCvOF9Nlw==,US,,1486227661 111057121,111065628,2017-02-04 17:01:49,>>111065023,,Anonymous,1474666033986.png,3h+9NaJHNIRLym6yXZwGhQ==,PT,,1486227709 111057121,111065776,2017-02-04 17:02:44,">>111065241 >implying acquiring and processing information is costless",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486227764 111057121,111065948,2017-02-04 17:03:44,">>111064038 I made a non-yellow and black one awhile back",,Anonymous,Flag_of_Mises2.png,5wWgop615vXO96h5g75l0Q==,US,,1486227824 111057121,111066045,2017-02-04 17:04:23,">>111065628 The body works more like a market flow than a gubmint The cancer cell would be an AnCom",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486227863 111057121,111066092,2017-02-04 17:04:43,">>111064474 'twas a rhetorical question. statists are crap people, always.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486227883 111057121,111066919,2017-02-04 17:10:33,">>111064332 the horror: using services of people whose success is dependent on my satisfaction - instead of having my life determined by bureaucrats.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486228233 111057121,111066978,2017-02-04 17:10:54,>>111066092,,Anonymous,1486091144559.png,NXZiUSNLsiy2lyl2zk/uEQ==,CA,,1486228254 111057121,111067006,2017-02-04 17:11:01,">>111065776 What's that got to do with anything?",,Anonymous,annoyed.png,UDh9M/9m8YHPHzsjryIIOA==,US,,1486228261 111057121,111067380,2017-02-04 17:13:22,"Hans' 4 steps of the delegitimation of democracy must be promoted on /pol/. 1. It is difficult to find any proponents of democracy in the history of political theory. Almost all major thinkers had nothing but contempt for democracy. Even the founding fathers of the U.S. were strictly opposed to it. Without exception they thought of democracy as nothing but mob-rule. They considered themselves to be members of a 'natural aristocracy,' and rather try a democracy they advocated an aristocratic republic.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486228402 111057121,111067405,2017-02-04 17:13:33,">>111066919 Exactly. Corporations exist because people find their products worth purchasing. Governments exist because of this indoctrinated idea pushed into our heads that they ought to exist.",,Anonymous,JTF.jpg,1mect/+lGOopRu0sI+kM7A==,US,,1486228413 111057121,111067545,2017-02-04 17:14:30,">>111066978 >The ancap is the fucking chick",,Anonymous,1484869311697.jpg,b9WBJPfePN77LO5K1AXlDQ==,US,,1486228470 111057121,111067601,2017-02-04 17:14:54,">>111065628 you remind me of my late latin teacher who ingrained the notion in me that whenever someone uses metaphors (of body parts) to explain claims to power, you're taken advantage of. what you are truly doing is, is telling people that there is a a secret truth some people hold, that obviously can not possibly be communicated, and therefore those people have to rule and you can not possibly question that because you are too stupid to understand. you are calling people stupid. how do you expect them to react, asshole?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486228494 111057121,111068152,2017-02-04 17:18:57,"2. It must be made clear again that the idea of democracy is immoral as well as uneconomical. As for the moral status of majority rule, it must be pointed out that it allows for A and B to band together to rip off C, C and A in turn joining to rip off B, and then B and C conspiring against A, and so on. This is not justice but moral outrage, and rather than treating democracy and democrats with respect, they should be treated with open contempt and ridicule as moral frauds.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486228737 111057121,111068224,2017-02-04 17:19:30,">>111065241 >If someone thinks a corporation is being a jerk, everyone stops buying their crap Which is why a controversial and hated company like, say, Electronic Arts went out of business years ago. Oh, wait.",,Anonymous,1486014789222.jpg,mzDsIyxu5DlC2tbCWyQVNQ==,SE,,1486228770 111057121,111068512,2017-02-04 17:21:19,">>111057121 Physical removal soon lads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o",,Anonymous,PhysicalRemoval.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,GB,,1486228879 111057121,111068660,2017-02-04 17:22:26,">>111068224 Okay, most big businesses with terrible reputations can be chalked up to copyright laws, bailouts, heavy regulations, and the Federal Reserve.",,Anonymous,price.jpg,DFhUTDAbHtGJS4Jjqqx39A==,US,,1486228946 111057121,111068900,2017-02-04 17:24:09,">>111068152 2 continued. It must be stressed relentlessly that it is not democracy but private property, production, and voulantary exchange that are the ultimate sources of human civilisation and prosperity. In particular contrary to widespread myths, it needs to be emphasised that the lack of democracy had essentially nothing to do with the bankruptcy of Russian-style socialism. It was not the selection of principle for politicians they constructed socialism's problem. It was politics and political decisionmaking as such.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486229049 111057121,111068995,2017-02-04 17:24:49,">>111068660 You forgot dumb consumers.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1486229089 111057121,111069018,2017-02-04 17:24:57,">>111057121 Reminder that the only difference between the mafia and the state is your opinion.",,Anonymous,1484702504655s.jpg,uZgjpI1iQy2kQSfn0+qGLw==,NL,,1486229097 111057121,111069042,2017-02-04 17:25:09,">>111067006 >If someone thinks a corporation is being a jerk, everyone stops buying their crap and they go out of business. It means you know very little about economics.",,Anonymous,1467990728292.png,uFEU7aEyJioeI+zFU3uKBA==,PT,,1486229109 111057121,111069043,2017-02-04 17:25:09,Libertarians are the only some what rational people on /pol/,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486229109 111057121,111069058,2017-02-04 17:25:16,"The reason commies are so dangerous is the insidious influence of cultural marxism. By creating sleepers in the democratic system they have been slowly taking control and steering towards NWO communist one world government, while simultaneously infecting the culture, the schools, the courts, and even the history books with (((their))) views. To defeat this, we must become cultural fascists. We must acknowledge the failures of the 3rd reich and move towards the 4th, which will be based not on racial purity, but western values and culture, which is of course overwhelmingly white. Being race realists, we wont ignore the differences between the races, but we are not total monsters so were not gonna just kill everyone else. We will outcompete them in wealth and ideas. Communists and psychopaths will have to be physically removed, so to speak. To do this, we MUST get the public on our side FIRST.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486229116 111057121,111069202,2017-02-04 17:26:11,">>111069042 Prove me wrong then.",,Anonymous,ho!.jpg,sGWLuKJ5s5dIDzC6lfXYTQ==,US,,1486229171 111057121,111069306,2017-02-04 17:26:52,">>111068224 EA's reputation has been destroyed many people avoid their games just because they are made by EA this does affect buisness",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486229212 111057121,111069404,2017-02-04 17:27:36,">>111068152 you're obviously right, but there's the problem that while you can get rid of elected bureaucracy, you probably won't abolish the state as a whole - and given what so far has been tried when people got tired of 'democracy' it might be in our best interest to leave things 'democratic' for now - and maybe instead try expanding the idea, make it more inclusive and more 'open' ... so that the leviathan gets paralysed by its own institutions, unable to act whatsoever. Say yes to direct democracy, nihil novi and liberum veto for everyone!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486229256 111057121,111069520,2017-02-04 17:28:25,">>111066045 >there is a hardcoded law every cell follows >whenever part of that law falls, the cell literally kills itself to preserve the integrity of the body >if that fails, some cells in the body will kill it >if all these fails, the actions of a single cell bring all the others down >this is in any way like a free market",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486229305 111057121,111069604,2017-02-04 17:28:56,">>111068224 maybe they're not that bad after all and instead still produce value for others - but anyway, they're not forcing you to use their products.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486229336 111057121,111069608,2017-02-04 17:28:57,">>111068995 Hey, if there's a market for dumb people, then corporations are going to use that. But that doesn't mean that they won't earn even more by being smart with their business.",,Anonymous,execution.jpg,aUm3ZGMW7KuDtMbWO6gggQ==,US,,1486229337 111057121,111069616,2017-02-04 17:29:00,"has anon put any serious thought into how the actual transition from current societies would take place? all governments that fell so far have been quickly replaced by their successors which guaranteed their continuity and negated any significant change going forward, leading me to believe that a global gamechanging event would be required to take place, one preventing centralised governments from functioning and existing",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486229340 111057121,111069773,2017-02-04 17:30:02,For those who think libertarianism = open borders,,Anonymous,d86ba47e8a939586f517f80759b3bb4c.jpg,RSPa9Jn3SlunapaBv8rr4Q==,GB,,1486229402 111057121,111069805,2017-02-04 17:30:15,,,Anonymous,Snake_b7cb76_5733515.jpg,Hec+iflGTOuYDvyI6utf7g==,US,,1486229415 111057121,111069826,2017-02-04 17:30:21,">>111067601 >there is a a secret truth some people hold, that obviously can not possibly be communicated, and therefore those people have to rule and you can not possibly question that because you are too stupid to understand. I think you should've paid more attention in class",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486229421 111057121,111069943,2017-02-04 17:31:11,">>111057121 Cringeworthy picture...that ain't commie dropping helicopter, but libertards as usual don't know a fuck about anything.",,Anonymous,Fidae033_816x544.jpg,On8w+W6wIfNWX+tKgFo2Yg==,FI,,1486229471 111057121,111069968,2017-02-04 17:31:20,,,Anonymous,5881277+_44f8d33a48c94edd876fc707f9ed8569.jpg,RPjTOkjJTt2Hb8cH+e2FaQ==,US,,1486229480 111057121,111070072,2017-02-04 17:32:13,,,Anonymous,Snake+thread_ea55db_5733515.jpg,mFOETM2O0LoKKD1AtZdYUg==,US,,1486229533 111057121,111070104,2017-02-04 17:32:27,">>111069520 you remind me a commie that said that capitalism is tyranny because if you din't have a job you die,which is what you just explained to me",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486229547 111057121,111070327,2017-02-04 17:33:52,">>111069202 are you asking me to show you acquiring and processing information is not costless? Do you ever buy groceries?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486229632 111057121,111070413,2017-02-04 17:34:19,">>111068900 3. The idea of majoritarianism should be turned against democratic rule itself. Under and firm of governmental rule, including democracy, the""ruling class"" (politicians and civil servants) represents only a small proportion of the total population. While it is possible that one hundred parisites may lead a comfortable life on the products of one thousand hosts, one thousand parisites cannot live off one hundred hosts. Based on the recognition of this fact, it would appear possible to persuade a majority of the voters that it is adding insult to injury to let those living off of other peoples' taxes have a day how high the taxes are, and to this decide, democratically, to take the right to vote away from all government employees and everyone who revives government benefit, whether they are welfare recipients or government contractors.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486229659 111057121,111070555,2017-02-04 17:35:14,">>111070104 no, it's not when you guys can just throw strawmen at me, it means I hit it right on the target",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486229714 111057121,111070640,2017-02-04 17:35:51,">>111057121 >Libertarian right >as opposed to Nationalist right or Fascist right >Jew OP Figures",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486229751 111057121,111071107,2017-02-04 17:39:03,">>111069520 >>111069520 you know for cancer to develop you need inflammatory signaling in the surrounding tissue. it's not a 'decision' by just one cell - and it is not a 'hardcoded law' but actually a chain of reactions thats modulated a lot by a lot of factors. your whole metaphor is bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486229943 111057121,111071121,2017-02-04 17:39:07,Libertarian Fascist here ask me anything.,,Anonymous,request__libertarian_fascism_by_americansfr-d8actxl.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,US,,1486229947 111057121,111071346,2017-02-04 17:40:40,">>111071121 So you defend less or more state interference? That looks like a paradox to me",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486230040 111057121,111071501,2017-02-04 17:41:40,">>111071121 so you're a paleoconservative or?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1486230100 111057121,111071597,2017-02-04 17:42:17,">>111070327 What does that have to do with anything? Elaborate on your point.",,Anonymous,grain.jpg,Gwb2Y/DMegN9AaBh1uBrxQ==,US,,1486230137 111057121,111071632,2017-02-04 17:42:32,">>111071121 Hello friend",,Anonymous,facLib.jpg,1YdMrj8/omKItN/SUl4miQ==,CA,,1486230152 111057121,111071722,2017-02-04 17:43:13,">>111069616 >all governments that fell so far have been quickly repl replacement of government services by disrupting private enterprises. think uber. (everything else just leads to bloodshed)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486230193 111057121,111071733,2017-02-04 17:43:17,">>111070555 >calling me out for a strawman >by posting a picture comparant us to cancer Oh The irony",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486230197 111057121,111071879,2017-02-04 17:44:16,">>111064332 >competing amoral corporations vs an amoral government hmmm",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1486230256 111057121,111072126,2017-02-04 17:46:03,">>111071346 Basically I believe in strong Military and that the NAP does not apply to socialists, communists or any form of marxist. With giving the people the right to do what ever they want without interferience to the markets. >>111071501 I would say a cousin of paleoconservatives >>111071632 Hey buddy.",,Anonymous,1468812474725.jpg,+6G91YA7bZOmLELxK2YVoQ==,US,,1486230363 111057121,111072185,2017-02-04 17:46:35,">>111069826 are you fucking retarded or don't you get that you're trying to tell us that we should blindly follow the collectives will because 'that's how it's supposed to be'? that's the argument you're making. you have to be stupid to expect anyone to be convinced by that.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486230395 111057121,111072842,2017-02-04 17:51:01,">>111071722 yes, but what about involuntary things like state tax collection agency, banking system itself, nationalized education, PAYG pension system, single-payer healthcare etc as long as a gov't is still in power and laws governing abovementioned systems remain in place, there's no real way around them besides going illegal, which is not a realistic choice for the vast majority",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486230661 111057121,111072901,2017-02-04 17:51:25,">>111071107 nothing that happens in a body is determined by a single cell because it is a body. Still, what starts the cancer itself is a harmful mutation (or rather series of mutations in a single cell). So, it is a part gone rogue. my metaphor is not bullshit. What each individual is to society is very close to what the cell is to the body. There is one obvious and marked difference which I'm surprised none of you brought up yet, eve though it doesn't invalidate the argument implied in my initial pic",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486230685 111057121,111072936,2017-02-04 17:51:42,">>111057841 Shlomo is on point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486230702 111057121,111072971,2017-02-04 17:51:56,">>111072126 >strong Military and that the NAP does not apply to socialists, communists or any form of marxist I think that's a given in an ancap society. The guys promising that they'll steal all your stuff and kill you if you resist are most definitely violating the NAP. A strong military is certainly possible, but there definitely shouldn't be a draft. Volunteers are higher quality soldiers anyways.",,Anonymous,suk.jpg,U0wju8aeMLdMBc9pTyYC4g==,US,,1486230716 111057121,111072992,2017-02-04 17:52:07,">>111070413 4. In addition, in conjunction with this strategy it is necessary to recognise the overwhelming importance of secession and secessionist movements. If majority decisions are ""right"", then the largest of all possible majorities, a world majority and a democratic world government, must be considered ultimately ""right"", with the consiquesnces being that the so-called Western world has far too much wealth and the rest of the world, in particular China and India, far too little, and that a systemic wealth and income redistribution would be necessary. In contrast, secession always involves the breaking away of smaller from larger populations. It is thus a vote against principle of democracy and majoritarianism. The further the process of secession proceeds to the level of small regions, cities, city districts, towns, villages, and ultimately individual households and voulantary associations of private households and firms, the more difficult it will become to maintain the current level redistributive policies. At the same time, the smaller the territorial units, the more likely it will be that a few individuals, based on the popular recognition of their economic independence, outstanding professional achievement, morally impeccable professional life, superior judgement, courage, and taste, will rise to the rank of natural, voulantary acknowledged elites and legitimacy to the idea of a natural of computing and freely financed peacekeepers, judges, and overlapping jurisdictions as exists even more in the area of international trade and travel. A pure private law society - as the answer to democracy and any other form of political (coercive) rule.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486230727 111057121,111073291,2017-02-04 17:54:07,">>111071597 For instance, it's impossible for you to know what is the supply chain of any given product you buy. It is so ridiculously complex, not even the firms themselves know. So, if a firm does something you don't like, you'll likely never find out about it and happily buy its product.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486230847 111057121,111073978,2017-02-04 17:59:29,">>111072971 They are, so That is why I think in this kind of society militias are allowed to be formed. If you can afford your weapons you are good to go. Except for Police they are a given as well.",,Anonymous,2000px-Gadsden_flag.svg.png,4kGEWlb4IMNCbLLt7z2Q0w==,US,,1486231169 111057121,111073991,2017-02-04 17:59:36,">>111072992 >even more even NOW All that and one error, not bad.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486231176 111057121,111074104,2017-02-04 18:00:31,">>111058688 Shapiro said it best; Jews have now divided into two separate groups, liberal Jews have no god their only God, per say, is socialism. This will eventually lead to conflict between the two groups in the near future",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486231231 111057121,111074106,2017-02-04 18:00:32,">>111073291 I'm not talking about the inner workings of companies, rarely have those actually affected sales (like that incident with Chick Fil A and the anti-gay groups). I'm talking about the end products, if people don't like those products they won't buy them.",,Anonymous,NC.jpg,23LdjP8aCRSyG6hEdFO1dQ==,US,,1486231232 111057121,111074352,2017-02-04 18:02:33,">>111071733 Libertarianism chases after a chimera of freedom, which is impossible to attain because we are social beings. You will always unwillingly affect other people and they will always unwillingly affect you. You cannot untangle yourself from them and they can't untangle from you. Hence, the closest thing to pure freedom is to be a dictator, where you control others. And the only possible way of being purely free is to be God. This is why most libertarians are at heart pure authoritarians and they don't even realize it. Nonetheless, you end up chasing the chimera which involves, firstly, seeing all human interaction as the setting up and fulfillment of contracts and, secondly, the effective separation of yourself from society, which is why most of you are lonely fucks who can't relate to anyone. The comparison with cancer is accurate because this is a framework that, if followed by a large % of the population, brings down society by completely destroying its social capital.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486231353 111057121,111074414,2017-02-04 18:03:01,">>111057121 I love how most of the posts in this thread are by fascists masquerading as libertarians. But of course, totalitarian statists must always lie about who and what they really are, otherwise they'd get even less support than they do now.",,Anonymous,LP-Porcupine-Dont-Tread-on-ANYONE.png,Nb6mFLWwC/w5QMJ7dnmf5w==,US,,1486231381 111057121,111074466,2017-02-04 18:03:28,">>111069404 We are smarter, more moral, more agile and our ideas are correct. We just have to spread our ideas so when the time comes they are adopted.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486231408 111057121,111074473,2017-02-04 18:03:30,">>111072185 tell me exactly where I'm saying that",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486231410 111057121,111074496,2017-02-04 18:03:37,Snek!,,Anonymous,Join or Die.png,3jgGn3dn9Uis7vWkE3xN9w==,DE,,1486231417 111057121,111074555,2017-02-04 18:04:04,">>111073978 Militias and voluntary police are a strong likelihood. After all, we may believe in capitalism, but a big part of that is the ability of people to voluntarily and selflessly participate in charities, militias, mutual security, etc. I rather doubt that an ancap society could afford the big military equipment, like carriers and whole tank divisions, but on a dollar per dollar basis we would certainly be the most efficient.",,Anonymous,tail.jpg,t//mU7g+vEWVqYM/Sfw7Kg==,US,,1486231444 111057121,111074622,2017-02-04 18:04:35,">>111064332 With an ""amoral corporation"" you know exactly what their motivations are, to make money. on the other hand a government claims to work for the ""public good"" - whatever that means.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486231475 111057121,111074647,2017-02-04 18:04:46,">>111057121 What are your thoughts on Left Libertarians/Libertarian Socialists?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1486231486 111057121,111074704,2017-02-04 18:05:18,">>111074106 How do people know they will not like it? Why are you taking preferences as given? Why are you taking information about the product as given? They're not, and these are no small matters.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486231518 111057121,111074815,2017-02-04 18:06:08,How do you justify open borders or rejection of the goal of European ethnic dominance in the face of mass immigration?,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1486231568 111057121,111074840,2017-02-04 18:06:18,">>111074352 Libertarianism is about voluntary association, it makes no claim that we are not social beings that do not effect others, nor does it make any of the other claims you touted. The claim is that coerced interactions are immoral. You are arguing against a strawman.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486231578 111057121,111074844,2017-02-04 18:06:17,">>111072842 all of these can be replaced - or might become redundant over time. the banking system (and monetary monopoly) for instance is attacked right now by blockchain technology, which also attacks every trust-based service the government has so far provided. you can use that technology for instance for ownership certification or even identification purposes. the school system can be replaced by private education (it's not like it's unthinkable - but up until right now it probably is just too expensive for most people). healthcare like any other service might with time also become increasingly cheap. (think stem cells, and what mass-production of stem cells actually mean ... both price-wise and for our health). the only thing, that would be weird to privatise is probably the tax system. but I think with time someone might find a solution to that as well. anyway, my position is that we should no try designing the change, but instead trust private enterprise and individuals to come up with better solutions. and this is happening and was always happening. outlawing stuff doesn't work, it just makes thing more expensive - creating black markets as a reaction. the market works around obstacles, as long as it is profitable. (therefor we need to innovate more, and sell the revolution to people, because every hing worth doing, is worth doing for money)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486231577 111057121,111074852,2017-02-04 18:06:20,">>111074352 >Libertarianism chases after a chimera of freedom, which is impossible to attain because we are social beings. You will always unwillingly affect other people and they will always unwillingly affect you. You cannot untangle yourself from them and they can't untangle from you. That has nothing to do with freedom,we are againts people who wants us to make these actions by FORCE",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486231580 111057121,111074974,2017-02-04 18:07:17,>ancaps want to be forced to pay royalties to The Road Corporation™ for walking off of their driveway and onto the street,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486231637 111057121,111075046,2017-02-04 18:07:47,">>111074466 our greatest idea isn't very intuitive compared to envy and being obsessed with what other people are doing and why they don't do what you want ;)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486231667 111057121,111075062,2017-02-04 18:07:52,">>111074647 >Left anything Literally Communist vermin in need of eradication.",,Anonymous,1484530655457.jpg,SQd3S0pJnOsTz8cSlR9vMA==,GB,,1486231672 111057121,111075160,2017-02-04 18:08:32,">>111074555 Agreed.",,Anonymous,1459829467705.jpg,7FFnFgmR8HoHiFJH6rJeSA==,US,,1486231712 111057121,111075281,2017-02-04 18:09:44,">>111074815 Ask that to The gov who welcomes them and made discrimination illegal",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486231784 111057121,111075440,2017-02-04 18:11:09,">>111074704 Word of mouth spreads quickly anon, and that's before we take in potential reputation networks into account and company trust as a whole. It's like how that After Earth movie slipped down 2 slots in two days at the box office purely by word of mouth of how much it sucked.",,Anonymous,STOP.png,JjXtZTjuFAscfyTiCQ092Q==,US,,1486231869 111057121,111075461,2017-02-04 18:11:22,Is he our guy /lrg/ ?,,Anonymous,1432479690927.jpg,I7dM5+cRV3ncW5EW1GNswA==,DE,,1486231882 111057121,111075684,2017-02-04 18:13:04,">>111074844 makes sense and it seems most likely to play out that way I only wish that the wait won't be too long until we reach that stage thanks for the writeup",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486231984 111057121,111076048,2017-02-04 18:15:39,">>111075281 But Libertarians don't care about ethnic groups, so how will you be any better?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1486232139 111057121,111076508,2017-02-04 18:18:59,">>111076048 ahem",,Anonymous,1483812680603.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1486232339 111057121,111076517,2017-02-04 18:19:05,">>111072901 >Still, what starts the cancer itself is a harmful mutation (or rather series of mutations in a single cell). you can really debate that, because what starts cancer as well is messed up signaling for instance by a senescence-associated secretory phenotyp that can be mitigated by different factors, from malnutrition over age up to long time exposure to any toxin - or even light. without these changes to the tissue any developing cancer will be removed or - and that's also very interesting - can be halted in its development by signaling from healthy tissue. you can even influence how likely this is to happen by changing the amount of garlic you're eating. anyway, calling it a part gone rogue is simply wrong, because it is a systemic failure. for instance to even get to the part of apoptosis you need reduced redox levels in the cell - which can either be created by prior damage - or by a lack of cysteine (for instance - there are a lot of other different reasons). do you want to call your failure to eat cabbage 'a body part gone wrong'? maybe you prefer 'you smoking' calling you're lung a dirty traitor? your metaphor is as bullshit as it gets, becaues none of that has anything to do with how human societies behave, because we are not mindless drones, but autonomous agents. if you think otherwise you might as well kill yourself because your life obviously isn't worth shit in the grand scheme - after all you're only here to serve society.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486232345 111057121,111076868,2017-02-04 18:21:21,">>111074815 NAP. Rejecting or forcefully removing someone who is not an aggressor when coming to public (as opposed to private) land is a violation of NAP. So called libertarians who oppose this are fake or con artists like some youtubers. Agree or disagree with libertarianism is one thing but there is no such thing as libertarians who want more state power or violence against people who are not part of an army coming to a land.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486232481 111057121,111077222,2017-02-04 18:23:37,,,Anonymous,16300245_1248082765260040_8654282369082795678_o.png,TXI7gnpCOTNTwrRt8RGBVw==,BE,,1486232617 111057121,111077274,2017-02-04 18:23:54,">>111076048 Anon, only about .6% of the Islamic population in Europe have jobs, in libertarian land they won't have the welfare state to support them and they'll either leave or starve.",,Anonymous,breath.jpg,kIWmO+YZ03f8iRr4zVmKOQ==,US,,1486232634 111057121,111077402,2017-02-04 18:24:45,">>111075046 This inclination is true and why I believe majority of the population to be mentally ill.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486232685 111057121,111077575,2017-02-04 18:25:52,">>111076048 *sensible chuckle*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486232752 111057121,111077717,2017-02-04 18:26:46,">>111075684 you don't need to thank me - i'm having fun talking about that stuff. also just start a business if you're tired of waiting.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486232806 111057121,111077748,2017-02-04 18:26:59,">>111075461 I don't actually know anything about Stallman's philosophy, him eating something off his foot and having tantrums, both in public while on stage, is enough to tun me of him.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486232819 111057121,111077753,2017-02-04 18:26:59,>>111077575,,Anonymous,image.jpg,sGOx949RjVm4IQTUJIVhXQ==,FR,,1486232819 111057121,111077797,2017-02-04 18:27:16,">>111057121 https://anarchistrevival.com/2017/02/01/american-decay-1-the-human-cancer/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486232836 111057121,111077853,2017-02-04 18:27:44,">>111068224 THE ROADS MEME AGAIN! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!",,Anonymous,1479963161890.png,gVn6gioeGJ/eZzEZVJocNw==,US,,1486232864 111057121,111077922,2017-02-04 18:28:17,">>111076048 ho do you even think ethicity were surviving during feudalism? nationalism doesnt require state to exist, states just make it obligatory for all and not just for the vast majority also libertarian nationalist is way more local( tuscans, ombrians napolitan) than state nationalism make it about the ethnic group",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1486232897 111057121,111078036,2017-02-04 18:29:02,">>111076868 >>>111074815 # >NAP. Rejecting or forcefully removing someone who is not an aggressor when coming to public (as opposed to private) land is a violation of NAP. And with The right to discriminate you can be againts open borders because it would be your borders and you use it as you want",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486232942 111057121,111078142,2017-02-04 18:29:43,">>111077717 I'm doing that already, there's currently no better way of minimizing one's exposure to the taxman and mandatory ponzi schemes",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486232983 111057121,111078146,2017-02-04 18:29:44,">>111077777 checking",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486232984 111057121,111078320,2017-02-04 18:30:58,">>111077274 >>111077922 >>111077575 Utopian drivel. In the absence of a State, these barbarians would simply .pour across the border with little resistance",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1486233058 111057121,111078344,2017-02-04 18:31:08,">>111075440 See, that's my initial point. You need information to spread quickly, hence why I said you were assuming it was costless.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486233068 111057121,111078593,2017-02-04 18:32:48,">>111078320 and their motive for doing so? acute intracorporeal lead defficiancy cured by pyrotechnically propelled supersonic projectiles?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486233168 111057121,111078616,2017-02-04 18:32:54,">>111065488 Also, the statements are absurd. Governments and corporations don't have moral values, only people have moral values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486233174 111057121,111078637,2017-02-04 18:33:02,">>111078320 And then we would shoot them for trespassing on our private property. >>111078344 Oh, I see what you mean. Well yeah, someone is going to have to buy a crappy product for everyone else to realize how terrible it is. Just don't be the schmuck who preorders his vidya games and you'll be fine.",,Anonymous,smile.jpg,d/896HuSczKed78j/EMaOg==,US,,1486233182 111057121,111078740,2017-02-04 18:33:53,">>111074840 It does, precisely because it puts a primacy on voluntary interaction. What happens when you can't help it but it being involuntary? Also, are you not seeing all interaction as the setting up and fulfillment of contracts?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486233233 111057121,111078794,2017-02-04 18:34:15,,,Anonymous,C3tl6CnXUAAsspX.jpg,W0MP0Xxb6EABO5SrTfNGWg==,BE,,1486233255 111057121,111078829,2017-02-04 18:34:32,">>111078593 >>111078637 Literally no better than Marxists. Marxism was supposed to be a Stateless society too and look how that turned out.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1486233272 111057121,111078838,2017-02-04 18:34:35,">>111078320 >implying nigs will work and will survive without gibs >implying they will loot you since you have guns >implying you can't discriminante and ban nigs coming in and associate with other businesses for banning nigs with mutual agreement with mercs to défend you land",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486233275 111057121,111079021,2017-02-04 18:35:54,">>111074106 I swear, we /pol/ planetmans need to get together into a 14/88/ancap 4chan outfit to troll the reddit-fags of that game. SoulessSouffle-NC-Emerald",,Anonymous,1395785422159.png,pTUXJPas35aEdCBWmxytYg==,US,,1486233354 111057121,111079054,2017-02-04 18:36:08,">>111074852 They wouldn't be interested in making you do anything by force if you weren't able to affect people unwilling to be affected by you. As soon as this is set, you'll need to solve conflicting interests. And throwing up the panacea of negotiation does not cut it because our time and information processing capabilities are limited.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486233368 111057121,111079203,2017-02-04 18:37:03,">>111078829 But we're not advocating equality",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486233423 111057121,111079317,2017-02-04 18:37:52,">>111057121 If this is Libertarian right general, then pol's best hope is surely the Minutemen - and we really do need your help! >>111076549 >>111076549 >>111076549",,Minutemen - /pol/ Division,,,GB,,1486233472 111057121,111079413,2017-02-04 18:38:33,">>111079203 But you are advocating a Stateless society, as Marx did. His theories led to the exact opposite of what he advocated. What makes you think yours won't end up the same way?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1486233513 111057121,111079531,2017-02-04 18:39:17,">>111078142 aww, dude, we're having the same pain. I'm dabbling on the side in crypto currencies hoping they won't at least steal my monero-profits, but yeah, I totally get now why you can't wait.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486233557 111057121,111079702,2017-02-04 18:40:27,">>111078829 Except marxism advocates authoritarianism and the forceful theft of your wealth and property, whereas anarcho-capitalism gives you the freedom to do what you want so long as you don't initiate force upon others.",,Anonymous,drinking.gif,tkZLZowBAYUku4CXaDS+6w==,US,,1486233627 111057121,111080061,2017-02-04 18:42:43,">>111079054 >They wouldn't be interested in making you do anything by force if you weren't able to affect people unwilling to be affected by you. So The government exists only to stop The creation of others government",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486233763 111057121,111080119,2017-02-04 18:43:03,">>111079021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbWXXzEYsRM The suits should cut you a bonus check",,Anonymous,New Conglomerate.png,z8UHrIKo3u8yWT3Nn44KMA==,US,,1486233783 111057121,111080190,2017-02-04 18:43:29,">>111076517 The causes of these mutations don't matter for my point. What matters is that they exist and that part of the body is going completely off script and destroying it from inside. The fact we are autonomous agents doesn't change the comparison. It only means we have the means to quickly adapt ourselves. It still remains true that if you destroy society, the individual dies with it the same way a cell dies without the body.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486233809 111057121,111080342,2017-02-04 18:44:30,">>111057121 i need more sneks.",,Anonymous,1478904527160.png,IZXeguc6w0TuYgElHFEieA==,DE,,1486233870 111057121,111080426,2017-02-04 18:45:02,">>111079702 No, Marxism theoretically advocates the abolition of the State and class in favour of worker democratic ownership of the means of production",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1486233902 111057121,111080595,2017-02-04 18:46:05,">>111080061 No, it means you're running away from something that will always be there. You guys are like the commies when it comes to living in la la land.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486233965 111057121,111080602,2017-02-04 18:46:08,">>111080190 >he thinks government and society is The same thing Oh boy",,Anonymous,image.jpg,uP8z3+8rmI/vHLFsVk9gNQ==,FR,,1486233968 111057121,111080847,2017-02-04 18:47:38,">>111069773 What he says isn't necessarily against it either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486234058 111057121,111081099,2017-02-04 18:49:16,">>111080426 Marxist Abolition of the state is understood to be a product of the worker democratic ownership of the means of production. He thinks the state will slowly go away after a while. Libertarianism and Anarcho-Capitalism advocates for the abolition of the state because we KNOW it won't go away.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486234156 111057121,111081164,2017-02-04 18:49:37,">>111080426 You can form your coops, communes, and socialist enclaves to your hearts content in an anarcho-capitalist society. But if two men voluntarily enter into an agreement involving wages in your communist society, communists will kill them. Ergo, they are authoritarians. Being democratic doesn't mean crap, a democracy can be just as totalitarian and oppressive as a dictatorship. >>111080342 I got you covered anon. Also, check out this beauty here: >>111058688",,Anonymous,bite.jpg,W5Vp2jJ2XyAAvS+k9m2xgQ==,US,,1486234177 111057121,111081347,2017-02-04 18:50:51,">>111080595 Are from The future ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486234251 111057121,111081349,2017-02-04 18:50:51,">>111080602 No. I think the state and society are the same thing because any type of society to be a society requires some sort of political organization, rules and enforcement of rules. What you don't like is the part about ""rules"" and, especially, ""enforcement of rules"". The point is you will never escape this. In everything you do, you're bound by them, and they were not selected by you unless you are the dictator. Even then, they wouldn't be selected by you.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486234251 111057121,111081397,2017-02-04 18:51:13,">>111080426 Also, a side note, Democracy is a statist and inherently authoritarian concept.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486234273 111057121,111081428,2017-02-04 18:51:28,">>111079413 Except he didn't when all the means of productions are controlled by a single Workers Union, that is a state. This is not at all what libertarians want.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486234288 111057121,111081444,2017-02-04 18:51:35,">>111057121 >Jews making my thread for me. Now that's what I'm talking about!",,Anonymous,Flag.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1486234295 111057121,111081464,2017-02-04 18:51:43,">>111080426 Marxism advocates equality of outcome and abolishment of all hierarchies. This is against the human nature, and therefore requires an authoritarian state that will enforce those principles. This is where marxists and libertarians differ.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1486234303 111057121,111081555,2017-02-04 18:52:11,">>111081164 What beautiful and shiny sneks.",,Anonymous,1387742131763.jpg,quIX61l4QCReb5FweEkrYg==,DE,,1486234331 111057121,111081724,2017-02-04 18:53:16,">>111081349 We.are.not.againts.rules.but.againts.the.way.people.enforce.them Private cops,private court,mercs are a way to enforce rule without theft",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486234396 111057121,111081783,2017-02-04 18:53:36,">>111081428 Who said it has to be a single workers' union? The idea was that the workers would control the means of production and elect managers.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1486234416 111057121,111082057,2017-02-04 18:55:35,">>111081349 You fundamentally misunderstand anarcho-capitalism. We have rules, first and foremost, the NAP.",,Anonymous,smug.jpg,2ZRmNOwjS/csPenw/YFhrA==,US,,1486234535 111057121,111082197,2017-02-04 18:56:26,">>111081349 >No. I think the state and society are the same thing because any type of society to be a society requires some sort of political organization, rules and enforcement of rules. Maybe you English isn't your first language, I'll help you out. >noun, plural societies. >1. >an organized group of persons associated together for religious, benevolent, cultural, scientific, political, patriotic, or other purposes. Most societies have had governments, yes, but most and almost ALL societies form without governments.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486234586 111057121,111082341,2017-02-04 18:57:29,">>111057121 Facile ideologies must be laughed at and removed from /pol/. Ancaps and Libertarians are a fucking joke. Get off our board.",,Anonymous,1481239884388.jpg,11EmmstzStNnLFBMBIlPOA==,US,,1486234649 111057121,111082506,2017-02-04 18:58:38,">>111082341 This. Only Conservatives and Neo-Reactionaries allowed.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1486234718 111057121,111082947,2017-02-04 19:01:11,">>111082341 Libertarians are in this board since a long time faggot",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486234871 111057121,111083089,2017-02-04 19:02:03,">>111080190 >The causes of these mutations don't matter for my point no, they matter a lot, because those causes are benefiting factors without which the mutation can not become cancer. > that part of the body is going completely off script yeah, that's the thing: it's the whole body that leads to you developing cancer. bacteria in your ass change determine the likelyhood of your tits falling off. do you get that? systemic means the whole thing. that means that according to your metaphor, everything bad is societies fault. >The fact we are autonomous agents doesn't change the comparison. it does a lot, because we are not mindless programmed drones. we join groups because the benefit us, not the other way around. when the reason we join a group is the benefit of the group, we're either tools (literally, as in hammer or slave) or the goals of the group are our goals. when that changes we need to be free to leave or we're tools again. that's the difference. it's voluntary association. it's not ok to kill us. our lives are worth something. (and btw. thanks to trade we even have value for each other, even when we usually can not stand each other). nobody cries about a broken hammer, but when you die your mama cries. you get that? human life being valuable? you being valuable? even outside any group ... just for youself? > if you destroy society society is not the state, bro. the state is a bunch of dickheads trying to tell people (society) how to interact with each other. they are dicks. when somebody forces you to act in a certain way under the threat of violence he is usually described as a dick and a bully. and capitalism btw. relies on society, because it is made possible by divison of labor and specialisation.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486234923 111057121,111083172,2017-02-04 19:02:35,">>111082341 >the pseudo-communist thinks libertarians on /pol/ are a new thing >""w-we are the true /pol/!"" Newfag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486234955 111057121,111083301,2017-02-04 19:03:19,">>111081349 >I think the state and society are the same thing because any type of society to be a society requires some sort of political organization Explain Jews and Romani then.",,Anonymous,yourfaggotrymakesholosad.gif,b3SWu+OQR4e0Hbm5sFyrow==,US,,1486234999 111057121,111083616,2017-02-04 19:05:24,">>111082341 Fuck off. You Nazi faggots are all talk. You'll never ""save the white race"" because you won't get laid and have kids because no woman wants the fuck the ""kek im a Nazi"" guy. We're taking our board back, try and stop us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486235124 111057121,111083941,2017-02-04 19:07:31,">>111083172 This is a natsoc board you faggot. No, Libertarians are nothing new here. But that's only because before Faggot Cuck Moot left they had no place here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486235251 111057121,111084110,2017-02-04 19:08:27,">>111083616 ""Our board."" It was never your board to begin with, retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486235307 111057121,111084196,2017-02-04 19:08:55,">>111083941 You're Jewish.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486235335 111057121,111084336,2017-02-04 19:09:52,">>111083941 Explain 2008 election then",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486235392 111057121,111084453,2017-02-04 19:10:31,">>111084196 *autistic screeching*",,Anonymous,REEEEEE.jpg,1xjV8fEOhhnwYdDdIEGhPQ==,US,,1486235431 111057121,111084564,2017-02-04 19:11:11,">>111083616 you know, I'm not going to tell you you don't need to read libertarian posts if you don't like them, but ... you really do not have to post in the libertarian thread, mate. just say when you're tsudere.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486235471 111057121,111084670,2017-02-04 19:11:53,">>111083941 >>111084564 meant this",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486235513 111057121,111084822,2017-02-04 19:12:48,">>111083616 Nazis and Libertarians do have common objectives like murdering the commies, their voters and globalist elites (jews).",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486235568 111057121,111085046,2017-02-04 19:14:08,">>111083941 >This is a natsoc board you faggot. This isn't a safe space for your shitty socialist ideology. Go to 8cuck why don't you? >But that's only because before Faggot Cuck Moot left they had no place here. There is still one board for politics, dumbass. That hasn't changed after he left. And it's not your personal Stormfront. Deal with it, you statist cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486235648 111057121,111085570,2017-02-04 19:17:24,">>111084822 fuck off, they don't. libertarians aren't interested in murdering anybody.",,Anonymous,the_libertarian_plot_sticker-refecfbfb70314a6b92b50b97a0b7c25f_v9i40_8byvr_512-300x300.jpg,ZgZUmmf4sxvnanlnp1y5qQ==,DE,,1486235844 111057121,111085628,2017-02-04 19:17:43,">>111085046 Nigger the overall symbol for /pol/ is a fucking swastika what are you talking about?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486235863 111057121,111085907,2017-02-04 19:19:20,">>111085570 Eh, I'd say killing commies is just self defense. Marxism does advocate for authoritarianism and the forceful theft of your wealth and property, and the murder of anyone opposing that plan.",,Anonymous,poor.jpg,DMrIyTdtFJSqR/fvllG0OA==,US,,1486235960 111057121,111085988,2017-02-04 19:19:48,">>111081783 >who said Karl Marx, Communist Manifesto, Jesus read the basics before you argue",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486235988 111057121,111085989,2017-02-04 19:19:49,">>111085628 I don't see it on The site Where it is ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486235989 111057121,111086263,2017-02-04 19:21:31,">>111085628 Stop being so butt blasted. You aren't even a real Nazi. I bet you didn't get past the first page of that meinkampf.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486236091 111057121,111086627,2017-02-04 19:23:55,">>111085907 eh, and I'd like to sell them che guevara t-shirts and marx cigarettes. - once they start trying imposing their shit we can start shooting them, but even then I think taking them hostage and selling them back to their parents might be more profitable ... or use their slave labour as repayment for broken property ... either way, murder is not at the core of libertarian ideology - especially when you consider the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486236235 111057121,111087087,2017-02-04 19:26:55,">>111086627 They would make good targets for military training exercise once they grow large enough.",,Anonymous,Ayesha.jpg,Uq3pgcP57l8F0a8h8GTHzA==,US,,1486236415 111057121,111087245,2017-02-04 19:27:52,">>111086627 Gibt's wirklich freiheitsliebende Deutsche? Ha, unglaublich. Ich habe Mitleid mit dir. Du sollst nach Amerika ziehen uezs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486236472 111057121,111087406,2017-02-04 19:28:55,">>111087087 as long as they're being shot at voluntarily I'm not objecting.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486236535 111057121,111087468,2017-02-04 19:29:25,">>111085628 >look the symbol is a swastika!!!!11!!! /pol/ is natsoc4life XXXDD >he thinks a fan-made symbol is the overall description of the board Underage most likely.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486236565 111057121,111087565,2017-02-04 19:30:03,">>111086627 > I think taking them hostage and selling them back to their parents might be more profitable Sell their organs. Profit + dead commies.",,Anonymous,1425861625001.jpg,tblKliZJJ+L0P2t0F1TKRw==,DE,,1486236603 111057121,111087660,2017-02-04 19:30:33,">>111087406 Don't worry, they'll have violated the NAP 20 times with their little temper tantrums by the time we decide to kill them.",,Anonymous,mercs.jpg,sG85EwWRqeaI8sVb76TfDg==,US,,1486236633 111057121,111088027,2017-02-04 19:33:04,">>111087245 Nah, Bin Sohn polnischer Immigranten. Keine Ahnung ob das schon als deutsch gilt. Aber ... ja, ich wuerd gern in den USA leben - hab aber wenig Aussicht auf Greencard. Dennoch danke fuer den kommentar, made my day.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486236784 111057121,111088475,2017-02-04 19:35:51,">>111087565 >Sell their organs. ... in a perfect world they'd already have sold them themselves.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486236951 111057121,111088736,2017-02-04 19:37:44,">>111057121 Just came here to say: Hail Pinochet, God bless his helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1486237064 111057121,111088942,2017-02-04 19:39:07,">>111082506 >>111082341 >they still dont have bitcoin I made threads in 2011 fags",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486237147 111057121,111089090,2017-02-04 19:40:11,">>111088475 >>111088475",,Anonymous,1421087063542.gif,wvtVx4RBvKM1YydxUoE6/w==,DE,,1486237211 111057121,111090817,2017-02-04 19:51:51,Bump,,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1486237911 111057121,111090924,2017-02-04 19:52:41,">>111057121 If we privatized social security and disbanded the Federal Reserve, 90% of America's economic problems would be solved.",,Anonymous,ammo.jpg,L0yrbz/gy/N+9m5eN1mA3w==,US,,1486237961 111057121,111091125,2017-02-04 19:54:06,">>111082057 And there lies the contradiction, m8. The single rule you set up is a rule claiming you can do everything you want as long as you don't interfere with others. This is impossible because you cannot disentangle yourself from society. So, in theory you defend the NAP but in practice you act or wish to act as if there were no rules.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486238046 111057121,111091341,2017-02-04 19:55:44,">>111057121 Has anyone else out there read Rand Paul's SECURE Act legislation from 2015? Even fucking Ted Cruz voted for this thing. tl;dr - The SECURE Act bans immigrants and refugees from about 35 mostly muslim countries. Imagine the look on SJW's faces when things literally get five times worse overnight (7 x 5 = 35). https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/press/sen-rand-paul-introduces-secure-act-amendment-to-prevent-terrorists-from-entering-the-us-as-refugees_ http://www.paul.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/MDM15J02.pdf >tfw the list of naughty countries starts on page 5",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486238144 111057121,111091402,2017-02-04 19:56:09,">>111082197 the government, as typically defined, does not matter; what matters is the existence of the political community with enforceable rules, the state. This immediately limits your freedom and implies you are going to have to accept things you don't like.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486238169 111057121,111091570,2017-02-04 19:57:17,">>111091125 It's not ""don't interfere with others"", the rule is ""don't start aggression against others"". In other words, don't initiate violence or theft against other people or their property.",,Anonymous,backs.jpg,FpVvqr2/y/0R4l9UxpsVWA==,US,,1486238237 111057121,111091872,2017-02-04 19:59:32,">>111091125 >This is impossible because you cannot disentangle yourself from society. normie alarm goes off",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486238372 111057121,111092806,2017-02-04 20:05:36,">>111091570 What anime is the pic from?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486238736 111057121,111093058,2017-02-04 20:07:05,wants peace- comes from Israel,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1486238825 111057121,111093093,2017-02-04 20:07:21,a libertarian country would just be an open pussy waiting to get fucked by the closest bordering authoritative regime.,,Anonymous,jail.png,R19aW9ZS8CyLR5P9P9ftqw==,US,,1486238841 111057121,111093158,2017-02-04 20:07:47,">>111092806 It's not an anime, it's from a random artist called Hetza.",,Anonymous,blond.jpg,SM1ffwf1NL8eA/0XFmxomA==,US,,1486238867 111057121,111093388,2017-02-04 20:09:22,">>111093093 How so?",,Anonymous,snow.jpg,EdY2f/N5lSbkDu1PnwVSbg==,US,,1486238962 111057121,111093449,2017-02-04 20:09:45,">>111083089 >everything bad is societies fault Yes, when the part fails the whole is at fault. That's the point of these type of relationships, you cannot disentangle the parts' actions from one another, so it effectively looks like ""everything affects everything"". >we join groups because the benefit us, not the other way around. when the reason we join a group is the benefit of the group, we're either tools (literally, as in hammer or slave) or the goals of the group are our goals. The people in a society must act in such a manner to allow that society to perpetuate itself. Otherwise, it crumbles and people go away with it. You do not choose to join society: you're part of it by default, otherwise you wouldn't even understand me and you'd actually be already dead or inhuman. >society is not the state It is. What do you think putting people in jail is but a sophisticated form of ostracism? Primitive societies/states enforced their rules that way. That's still force because it implies a real danger of death. >and capitalism btw. relies on society, because it is made possible by divison of labor and specialisation. I'm not against capitalism. I'm against you commie and libertarian utopians who wish to remove all restrictions from your lives without realizing what that means.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486238985 111057121,111093631,2017-02-04 20:10:55,">>111083301 You don't need a piece of land for all to share m8, even though it's often preferred.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486239055 111057121,111093987,2017-02-04 20:12:58,">>111093093 >Lifespan: >(Libertarian) United States of America - 240 Years >Average Dachshund - 14 to 17 Years >(Fascist) Nazi Germany - 12 Years Forces you to contemplate, eh?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486239178 111057121,111094037,2017-02-04 20:13:16,">>111091570 That's literally the same thing. Unless you're using a very stringent definition of violence which ignores matters such as stalking.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486239196 111057121,111094082,2017-02-04 20:13:33,">>111093388 Because now that technology is advanced to the point where a missile strike can happen in seconds, any coalition of militia groups can not possibly compete with the organization of a real military. It may have been possible in the past, like the revolutionary war, but nowadays that ship has sailed. Until we have ai that is so advanced it can handle all aspects of our wars for us, libertarianism is a pipe dream that can be struggled towards, but never fully achieved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486239213 111057121,111094129,2017-02-04 20:13:43,">>111093631 But these societies don't have governments (the Jews had no government for thousands of years), and they still organized as cultures and societies just fine.",,Anonymous,gunfight.jpg,Gg8s7SmVV04xazlpO1EdVw==,US,,1486239223 111057121,111094181,2017-02-04 20:13:59,">>111093987 >>(Libertarian) United States of America - 240 Years which timeline are you from?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486239239 111057121,111094304,2017-02-04 20:14:39,">>111091872 >Says the person speaking English on an anonymous board full of other people who think like him. Why are you here again? How come you understand me?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486239279 111057121,111094466,2017-02-04 20:15:27,">>111094082 Why do you assume that libertarianism requires a country to have no standing army? What makes you think that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486239327 111057121,111094510,2017-02-04 20:15:44,">>111094129 They had their religious law.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1486239344 111057121,111094739,2017-02-04 20:17:03,">>111057388 The United States went without a standing army until after World War One. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces You're a fucking retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486239423 111057121,111094893,2017-02-04 20:17:58,">>111094466 Because such an army would never be funded as well as one from an authoritative country. And thus no where near as effective. Face it, how many libertarians are anti-war to begin with? Tons. Do you think they'd all willingly pay money to a private army when they don't have to?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486239478 111057121,111094983,2017-02-04 20:18:28,">>111094037 You're not really elaborating on how it is impossible to not aggress upon others, so please go into more detail. You say that we're ""entangled"" in society so that becomes impossible to not violate the NAP, but you don't really back that up with anything. >>111094082 Yes, clearly that's why we have done so well in the middle east. Those silly farmers with their AK's couldn't possibly resist the biggest military on Earth. Heck, just look back at historical conflicts like Vietnam, clearly we just crushed the enemy there.",,Anonymous,smoke.jpg,XJ67PebtfaYA+c7jQGXF0g==,US,,1486239508 111057121,111095064,2017-02-04 20:19:01,">>111094129 But I said a government is not necessary for them to exist, at least not the kind of government we usually think about. Hippies in the 60s for instance bought into anarcho-communism and they formed little communes which followed a specific political structure, had rules and enforcement of rules. That's what a state is. You could even think of the most persuasive person of the group who sways most of the decisions his way as being a kind of proto-government if you wish.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486239541 111057121,111095239,2017-02-04 20:20:00,">>111094983 which country in the middle east successfully repelled the US military?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486239600 111057121,111095292,2017-02-04 20:20:16,">>111094510 Which was voluntary and had no police or military to enforce it.",,Anonymous,punch.jpg,46hY/dcbQO8N7yXTH7oj/A==,US,,1486239616 111057121,111095583,2017-02-04 20:22:09,">>111062034 libertarianism is against all socialism degeneracy is a spook invented by the statists to keep you docile. nazis go home",,Anonymous,antinazi.gif,OB3M45CtxqSnYG6ozX3mWQ==,CA,,1486239729 111057121,111095827,2017-02-04 20:23:44,">>111095292 >which was voluntary No, it wasn't. You either conformed to group expectations or were banished and left to starve or (in some instances, such as Islam) killed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486239824 111057121,111095894,2017-02-04 20:24:10,"Libertarian here. What's your favorite kind of way to execute Leftist subversives, helicopter or sword?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486239850 111057121,111095999,2017-02-04 20:24:52,">>111095239 I don't know of a country, but we were in Iraq for 10 years, and are still in Afghanistan, and despite almost constant military presence, drone strikes, and bombings we still couldn't prevent the rise of ISIS, a terrorist group that even the local governments oppose.",,Anonymous,point.jpg,ULnLB2r2qlcYftP/Kfn4dg==,US,,1486239892 111057121,111096042,2017-02-04 20:25:08,">>111095827 >negative responsibility sounding like a Democrat",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486239908 111057121,111096183,2017-02-04 20:26:05,">>111094983 How do you want me to prove a negative? I can give you examples or I can tell you how any example that you give me would directly interfere with people who do not wish to be interfered with. Think about any issue and there will always be third-parties involved who wish not to be involved.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486239965 111057121,111096314,2017-02-04 20:27:06,">>111094181 The one where the Founding Fathers wrote the Declaration of Independence, and thus established a country that pursued a policy of lassiez-faire capitalism for one-hundred and fifty six years. >>111094893 You are ignorant of the fundamental underpinnings of libertarian ideology. Excluding anarchists, few libertarian theorists have ever advocated against standing armies. Friedman, Hayek, Mises, Rand, and Locke all held the establishment and maintenance of a standing army was one of the principle duties of the State. Why do you think the fact that libertarians, like most rational individuals, dislike war means that they're against the maintenance of a military?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486240026 111057121,111096336,2017-02-04 20:27:14,">>111095827 >in some instances, such as Islam We weren't talking about Islam. And being socially shunned for not following social expectations is allowed in an anarcho-capitalist society.",,Anonymous,sitting.jpg,HWlmiJnGLwknGVTEwx96fA==,US,,1486240034 111057121,111096727,2017-02-04 20:29:48,">>111057121 >AnarchoCapitalism",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486240188 111057121,111096762,2017-02-04 20:30:02,">>111096183 WTF are you even talking about? Just explain to me how it is impossible to not violently assault people, steal their stuff, or damage their property. What twisted logic do you have to use to arrive at that conclusion?",,Anonymous,soldat.jpg,78j+F8rSO+t+W0Twapckqw==,US,,1486240202 111057121,111097525,2017-02-04 20:35:10,">>111095999 >e still couldn't prevent the rise of ISIS, a terrorist group that even the local governments oppose. we never were trying to prevent ISIS from gaining power. we're the ones who are funding them in the first place, to further destabilize the region. we did the same shit with the taliban against the soviets. The point is that we were successful in destroying the region and throwing it into chaos. Saying that the war was not as effective as it could have been is pointless, the goal was still achieved. Our leaders don't give a shit about the human lives or taxpayer dollars lost. That's why a libertarian country is an open pussy waiting to get fucked. If a neighboring regime is willful enough, they can get it done despite the massive costs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486240510 111057121,111097661,2017-02-04 20:36:30,">>111091341 >Rand Paul is actually more extreme than Trump I knew lolbertarians weren't cucks.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486240590 111057121,111098178,2017-02-04 20:39:45,">>111097525 First they'd have to get through the military of the libertarian nation, which would not be an easy task, then they'd have to defeat all the militias and resistance groups that pop up.",,Anonymous,wolf.jpg,AOCxt5H19FVbz6nInhvdAw==,US,,1486240785 111057121,111098397,2017-02-04 20:41:10,">>111096762 That's not what I'm saying. You should try to actually find what are the major sources of conflict in society or even what are the most common issues being brought to court (or threatened to, at least). It is not straight out murder, assault or robbery, of that you can be sure.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486240870 111057121,111098456,2017-02-04 20:41:32,">>111069943 THIS is a commie dumping helicopter",,Anonymous,yuo see ivan.jpg,euEji2ivBqVWt26w4w0qKQ==,US,,1486240892 111057121,111098564,2017-02-04 20:42:16,,,Anonymous,no step.jpg,WcZ0TAoWqb+0VprInC2z9g==,DE,,1486240936 111057121,111098581,2017-02-04 20:42:23,">>111098178 describe what a libertarian army would look like, and how it would be funded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486240943 111057121,111098811,2017-02-04 20:43:50,">>111093449 >Yes, when the part fails the whole is at fault so what, you're saying it's reasonable for cancer to try surviving against the wishes of the whole? ... you're metaphor is still shit and now you're not even sticking to it anymore. >...to allow that society to perpetuate itself. what's anybodies interest in that? why are you so obsessed about the group? do you somehow need some kind of acknowledgement or something? some kudos from others? I don't get why you're arguing from this perspective? get this: when the most important thing is the well-being of the group, and not the constituting member, it is tyranny. do you want tyranny? do you want to do the biddings of others? are you some kind of lesser man? > Otherwise, it crumbles when bad things fail it's good. ... have you ever considered, that a bunch of other people deciding over your life might not be in your best interest? >you're part of it by default why? and don't dare trying to argue by simple association - because talking to me doesn't make you subject to whatever government I consider reasonable - nor vice versa. >otherwise you wouldn't even understand me language is society hurr durr. ... without government you can't talk ... hurr .... I'm sorry, I'm insulting, but this is an incredibly stupid statement. > Primitive societies/ primitive societies isn't very specific. for instance I've been told some had private law where differences were solved by agreement between parties or a mutual agreed upon judge. ...how does that work for your argument ... having a justice system without government intervention? > What do you think putting people in jail is distortion of markets. > I'm against you commie and libertarian utopians who wish to remove all restrictions from your lives why do you even care about what people are doing with their lives? if it doesn't affect you you shouldn't be bothered you little nazi.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486241030 111057121,111098939,2017-02-04 20:44:46,"Libertarians is a growing movement right? Official /pol Discord: https://discord.gg/swp3YFF Libertarians welcome",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486241086 111057121,111099023,2017-02-04 20:45:25,">>111098397 Then stop being vague and ELABORATE. >>111098581 It would look like any other 1st world military, and be funded with taxes. Libertarianism is not anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,seriously?.jpg,vL3Nd2Dg3cKrmtfsGGfPew==,US,,1486241125 111057121,111099353,2017-02-04 20:47:32,Not interested in debating or anything but I'm curious to know what you libertarian types think of the U.S. Constitution. Is it a good system in your view?,,Anonymous,usaaaaa.jpg,om8VNyyADosFVdPIRedJ/g==,US,,1486241252 111057121,111099427,2017-02-04 20:47:57,">>111099023 >It would look like any other 1st world military, and be funded with taxes. Then I guess we're in agreement basically. A state can't really exist without enacting authoritative force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486241277 111057121,111099534,2017-02-04 20:48:40,">>111099023 I already did. You're not reading.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486241320 111057121,111099570,2017-02-04 20:48:58,">>111072126 I could get behind that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486241338 111057121,111099653,2017-02-04 20:49:36,">>111099427 Libertarianism believes that there are a few legitimate uses of government, and external security is one of them.",,Anonymous,flamel.png,g4ZxWLwR87Ir/vuxthkSZg==,US,,1486241376 111057121,111099918,2017-02-04 20:51:19,">>111099534 >The single rule you set up is a rule claiming you can do everything you want as long as you don't interfere with others. This is impossible because you cannot disentangle yourself from society. This is the only sentence you've said with any substance, and it's vague as heck and unsubstantiated.",,Anonymous,awoo.gif,LLPFgR9SQSmbuzM5pQMSiw==,US,,1486241479 111057121,111099960,2017-02-04 20:51:32,">>111098939 >Join discord >Some dude is talking about Anarcho-Authoritarianism >Close discord",,Anonymous,1471222847410.png,2AFHKJJflA3B3p1czfvsBg==,GB,,1486241492 111057121,111100077,2017-02-04 20:52:20,">>111095894 Live REEEEEEE",,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1486241540 111057121,111100342,2017-02-04 20:54:00,">>111100077 Quad triple dubbs, nice",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486241640 111057121,111100787,2017-02-04 20:57:02,">>111098811 >so what, you're saying it's reasonable for cancer to try surviving against the wishes of the whole? ... I'm saying since every part is invariably linked to all the others, they all contributed to the one that failed. If you want an example, just read what you wrote some posts above. >what's anybodies interest in that? society dies, you die body dies, cancer cell dies >you're part of it by default. why? you're born into a family, for instance >language is society hurr durr. ... without government you can't talk ... hurr .... I'm sorry, I'm insulting, but this is an incredibly stupid statement. Why don't you read what I say? >primitive societies isn't very specific. for instance I've been told some had private law where differences were solved by agreement between parties or a mutual agreed upon judge. ...how does that work for your argument ... having a justice system without government intervention? There more rules other than laws, and no less important. >why do you even care about what people are doing with their lives? if it doesn't affect you you shouldn't be bothered you little nazi. that's where you are wrong, they do affect me",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486241822 111057121,111101122,2017-02-04 20:59:12,">>111099918 >i.e. this is the only sentence I understood Let's do it the other way because it's easier, since you're asking me to prove a negative. Give me an example of an action where you cannot possible interfere with the lives of others.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486241952 111057121,111101160,2017-02-04 20:59:28,">>111099960 >current year >not being an anarcho-feudalist",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1486241968 111057121,111101175,2017-02-04 20:59:35,">>111099353 The Constitution isn't perfect, but it's protected our liberties effectively with a system of checks and balances and a Bill of Rights. If anything, I would like to see amendments further restricting the powers of the federal government. >>111100077 PRAISE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486241975 111057121,111101767,2017-02-04 21:03:17,">>111101122 The standard isn't ""not interfering with others"", but rather not infringing upon the rights of others. Of course everything we do has some impact on others, but not everything we do infringes upon the rights of others.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486242197 111057121,111101807,2017-02-04 21:03:28,">>111101122 That's not what the NAP is. I mean heck, even if you buy something off the market you are affecting supply and demand and thus affecting the lives of everyone else. What the NAP calls for is to not initiate aggression against other people through violence, theft, or property damage. >>111099353 The Articles of Confederation was better, but the Constitution is still pretty alright with me.",,Anonymous,smiia.png,CuWpQ61FOHaR6hgTgJ2Pdg==,US,,1486242208 111057121,111102172,2017-02-04 21:05:43,">>111064332 You do realise that the government can run and oversee corporations as well?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486242343 111057121,111102554,2017-02-04 21:08:02,">>111100787 >I'm saying ... dude, do you get that the image that spawned our discussion, had the point that it's unreasonable for cancer to refuse to die? when the whole is responsible for cancer being what he is, why would it be right for him to die just so that the perpetrators can live? >society dies, you die societies, just as markets, are emergent phenomena that in come in existence whenever people interact / live together / whatever. there's no reason to believe that you're bound to die just because rules changed. >Why don't you read what I say? because it's very obvious you're conflating 'society' and 'culture', both of which can be independent from each other. and language is a culture technology. a learned skill. >you're born into a family, for instance that's pure association. you might argue because of economic intertwinement, but well you didn't - and this would also only hold as long as I might be dependent on that intertwinement. now tell me, why do I have to be bound by arbitrary rules made up by some strangers because I have a family? - and what about orphans? are they some kind of outlaw super villains? >There more rules other than laws, and no less important. I think you word? >that's where you are wrong, they do affect me so when you're affected by the actions of hulk hogan, I have to suffer? Shouldn't it be between you and those who affect you? And why would I or anybody else would have a say in your business?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486242482 111057121,111103963,2017-02-04 21:16:17,/lrg/ master race.,,Anonymous,Generals.png,CX37xCo29T6LONyxnDyKZw==,US,,1486242977 111057121,111104691,2017-02-04 21:21:01,">>111101807 >when the whole is responsible for cancer being what he is, why would it be right for him to die just so that the perpetrators can live? First, that's not the point. Second, cancer has to die because it is destroying the whole body with it. >societies, just as markets, are emergent phenomena that in come in existence whenever people interact / live together / whatever. When I say societies die, I do mean it. If people can form ""another one"", they still have some sort of bond left and thus it has not died. >society and culture can be independent what? culture is a manifestation of society >why do I have to be bound by arbitrary rules made up by some strangers because I have a family? I said for instance not because of it. But keeping to the example, you do have to follow the rules of your family, otherwise you're breaking it apart >so when you're affected by the actions of hulk hogan, I have to suffer? Shouldn't it be between you and those who affect you? And why would I or anybody else would have a say in your business? Information is not costless. Also, since you see everything in terms of individuals, you can't ever get from the particular to the general. It doesn't matter what each person does but how it reverberates throughout society. Think about muslims: crazy muslim kill, you're an innocent muslim who did nothing wrong, yet you belong to the same category > now you're screwed because you belong to a risky group",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486243261 111057121,111104884,2017-02-04 21:22:17,">>111104691 this is for you >>111102554 quoted the wrong post",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486243337 111057121,111105164,2017-02-04 21:24:12,">>111101767 >not infringing upon the rights of others that's some serious mud you got into right there >>111101807 that's very limited. what about stalking, for instance?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486243452 111057121,111105645,2017-02-04 21:27:27,">>111105164 >what about stalking, for instance? Doesn't violate the NAP. Granted, you'll definitely want a firearm on hand, if he comes on your property that's illegal, and if it continues then hire someone to investigate just WTF his problem is.",,Anonymous,pistol.jpg,fN5PuaHYEL4WhDvqaHgpVg==,US,,1486243647 111057121,111105946,2017-02-04 21:29:37,">>111103963 That symbol for /CG/ topkek",,Anonymous,1485639667857.png,m1Za2Utc04Ns82nxHiS+zw==,US,,1486243777 111057121,111106340,2017-02-04 21:32:28,">>111105645 >Stalking doesn't violate the NAP lol, I now know what you creeps want",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486243948 111057121,111106419,2017-02-04 21:33:01,">>111105946 Top snek",,Anonymous,Veteran.png,v0I4+nH3d32fXkSWnaC3hg==,US,,1486243981 111057121,111106592,2017-02-04 21:34:27,">>111106340 Stalk them back if they do it to you, trolling isn't illegal you know.",,Anonymous,holo.jpg,gxVFx82d+eu7P58UMiRS1g==,US,,1486244067 111057121,111106952,2017-02-04 21:37:14,">>111104691 >that's not the point. exactly. >cancer has to die because it is destroying the whole body with it but, just for the kicks: what's in it for him? why does the life of other weight more than his? I mean, sure you not being cancer being threatened by him sure have a interest in him dying, but him? I mean if it was humans? would you say it's right for me to demand you die? in the end, that's the question: why does your interest weight more than mine? or vice versa? >When I say societies ... so since you didn't object to me saying they're emergent phenomena, I take you think that societies can be independent from the existence of governments? >culture is a manifestation of society you'd think that, but culture is a collection of techniques we use to solve (mostly small) problems. if you think about how we determine peoples culture, we see how they cook, we see how they talk to each other, how they sleep and make their beds (if they have any) ... and and and ... all of these are ways they treat everyday problems. once learned it doesn't need other people. (except for those culture technics that are centered around human interaction). I think this definition is very nice since it doesn't leave you with a vague mist of what is and what isn't culture (and even those vague ideas like art or philosophy or religion become technics of how to categorise and think about reality). sure this is learned from society / surrounding people, but the existence of those technics in the indivual doesn't depend on being emerged in the presence of others. >you do have to follow the rules of your family, otherwise you're breaking it apart this is a nice example because it lets us pose the question whether those rules are voluntary in nature (as in the libertarian way) or forced upon you. I'd argue they're voluntary because if you disagree, you're free to disassociate (leave). ... post too long, will continue ...",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486244234 111057121,111107469,2017-02-04 21:40:32,">>111106340 >>111106592 Alternatively, consult the owner of the property on which the stalker is harassing you, and they can bring charges against the stalker.",,Anonymous,apple.png,hH7RndZz1/fqO8n2rqGffA==,US,,1486244432 111057121,111108117,2017-02-04 21:44:48,">>111104691 >It doesn't matter what each person does but how it reverberates throughout society. are you hereby trying to construct a cultural externality where my actions affect others by cultural means? >the muslim example I'm going to say anything about it, because it's too inviting to comment on details of the muslim faith and association with it. but i get what you're getting at.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486244688 111057121,111109110,2017-02-04 21:51:07,">research how to form llc & s corp, starting a biz in the states, etc. >fucking irs rules r so damn complicated, laws r so shit I would need to pay $60a month for liability insurance Makes me not even want to start a biz. Then u have the quarterly estimated taxes u have to pay. Fucking mess. It's easier too just work for somebody else in a lot of ways. What does /lrg/ think can happen to change the country? People are addicted to their entitlements and govt spending. We are so far from zero taxes. How is it even possible to get there?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486245067 111057121,111109520,2017-02-04 21:53:46,Bump. Anyways of redpilling people on economics?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486245226 111057121,111109876,2017-02-04 21:56:05,"Secret HWNDU thread so the mods won't delete it...get in here!!!!!! >>111108996 → >>111108996 → REEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486245365 111057121,111110246,2017-02-04 21:58:09,"You guys seem to really know your shit. I've had trouble identifying politically. I used to think libertarian but now I'm not so sure. I love America. Our constitution should be followed to the letter(well, mostly just the bill of rights). I want to be left the fuck alone to do whatever I want with as little govt interference as possible as long as I don't infringe on anyone's rights or damage their property. But I want police, roads, and public education up until age 18. After that you should've been able to understand that you need an education or a skill to make money and provide for yourself. Healthcare and higher education are things you earn. They aren't rights. What am I?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486245489 111057121,111111865,2017-02-04 22:04:33,">>111110246 Sounds like a Libertarian Fascist. Like me dude. Do you believe in throwing commies out of Helicopters? Along with socialists and Marxists. I would recomend watching this. It will really hit you hard. It is a redpill but maybe a little stronger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6zO-qhQx_8",,Anonymous,1482217107100.jpg,bETxKOL/OEqkelmYdUk4fQ==,US,,1486245873 111057121,111111974,2017-02-04 22:04:59,">>111110246 probably some kind of constitutionalist.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486245899 111057121,111112472,2017-02-04 22:07:29,">>111110246 That's pretty much libertarian, or classically liberal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486246049 111057121,111112936,2017-02-04 22:10:35,">>111111865 Not necessarily just for being commies socialists or marxists. But here's the thing about that. If they wanna bitch and moan about shit that's their right(and the only thing they should have going for them in our society) but we can't have their views become law because it violates the constitution and infringes on my rights. But I guess that's why states rights are so important here. If you wanna live in a commie hellhole go live in cali. I'm in GA. Life's good as pretty much what I described in my first post as long as you don't break the law. And everyone's armed so crime really stays in Atlanta. But yeah. The second commies start trying to take over the nation they should fucking fly. Also if you're gonna redpill choose a shorter video next time. Lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486246235 111057121,111113469,2017-02-04 22:13:41,">>111112472 >>111111974 I've thought constitutionalist. I feel like my libertarianism follows closer to Johnsons brand and that makes me cringe because I also believe in hard kept borders and fuck everyone that isn't in America. We can help. But we need to help ourselves first and you need to give us a reason to help. And I haven't looked into ""classical liberalism"" enough to say one way or the other.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486246421 111057121,111114066,2017-02-04 22:17:13,">>111113469 To elaborate... we need the wall and it needs to sit 100yds from the actual border on our side and the 100yd wide zone between it and Mexico needs to be mined. Station sentries or auto turrets every 50yds at the top of the wall. Use thermo and seismic sensors to detect tunneling and drop bunker busters on inhabited tunnels. Any bodies or body parts you accumulate need to be launched back into Mexico by means of trebuchet. Anyone entering into the ""zone"" is shot without hesitation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486246633 111057121,111114918,2017-02-04 22:22:20,">>111114066 how about you just drop any welfare for immigrants. when you go by the simple idea of 'people spending money on things they deem valuable' you'll quickly find that any immigrant that has money that way is probably producing a value plus for society - (because somebody thought his services to be more valuable than a bunch of dollars). that way you only get to keep the good immigrants + probably cheaper shit. (but what do I know, I'm not american and don't know what it's like there ...)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486246940 111057121,111115353,2017-02-04 22:24:54,">>111106340 >lol, I now know what you creeps want",,Anonymous,bait.png,tX+VFcUOQC4AY+7XZBN+ZQ==,US,,1486247094 111057121,111115651,2017-02-04 22:26:39,">>111114918 About twelve years ago I had a job making $9/hr in construction. Was there about 3 months and next thing I know these two Guatemalans literally terk muh jurbs. Had a buddy working there too. He found out that they fired me and hired these two and specifically gave them my pay. They split my $9/hr and each was making $4.50/hr. It isn't that bad in my state anymore and that construction company went under after the housing market crash because of shitty practices. But it's still a problem and states like GA, my state, are trying to save the liberals from themselves here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486247199 111057121,111115846,2017-02-04 22:27:35,is libertarian ideology the natural evolution for a nation whose people have no love for their countrymen?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486247255 111057121,111116209,2017-02-04 22:29:28,">>111115846 It's not that we don't love our countrymen. We do. But we also see degenerates as not our countrymen. Undeserving of what we have worked hard to earn and having only themselves to blame for their poor lot in life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486247368 111057121,111116926,2017-02-04 22:33:37,">>111115846 Anon, coddling your citizens is bad for the health of the nation. It festers degeneracy, dependence, and weakness. The strength of America today can be attributed to its indifferent attitude towards its citizens. Every problem we have is because people have tried to ""help"" us, and in the process have only made things worse.",,Anonymous,bayonet.jpg,hLpBsWlUodAlZO91j1SmmA==,US,,1486247617 111057121,111117074,2017-02-04 22:34:55,"molymeme says the time for talking is over and it's time for the RWDSs >I hesitate, because I so much dont want this to be true, but I always said I was going to condition my ideas according to the evidence, according to the facts, and maybe tonight is the sign, maybe its happened, maybe the time... I dont even want to say it, maybe the time for arguments is passed, maybe this battle has moved beyond words [edit to remove the part where he starts screaming to start mowing down antifa with machine guns], perhaps my job is over, perhaps I have failed or the world has failed, perhaps I am done, for 10 years I've been saying ""not an argument"", tonight perhaps it's been made clear there are no more arguments to be made https://youtu.be/3ZhHm_xQScE?t=10m48",,Anonymous,stefan is done.jpg,nCVC2ENfQK6EiWsH2md13g==,GB,,1486247695 111057121,111117145,2017-02-04 22:35:27,">>111093449 > I'm against you commie and libertarian utopians who wish to remove all restrictions from your lives without realizing what that means. How about you stop chatting shit since you know fuck all about libertarianism? No one ever said there would be no rules. They would just be created and enforced through market processes. Se não sabes, não falas.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486247727 111057121,111117280,2017-02-04 22:36:25,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1486265565612.jpg,PxsnQshs54ku5/ftb6lRTg==,US,,1486247785 111057121,111117630,2017-02-04 22:38:55,">>111115651 yet on the other hand, now it's possible to build houses in your country cheaper. that leaves a lot of money to be spent on furniture ;) I know I'm sounding like a prick right now, but overall, America profited from that - (if they truly offer a better cost/benefit ratio). Poorer people can now afford houses and other people can now afford better houses. (ignoring credits and such here ...) You got burned, but given that you still have your skills and a better education (after all there is a reason for you to be more expensive than those guatamalans) you can apply your knowledge now in another field, that hopefully now gets more money - because thanks to cheaper houses there's more of it around to be spent on other stuff. on the other hand demanding that your compatriots have to use more expensive products and services just makes everyone poorer. (less purchasing power of money held)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486247935 111057121,111118259,2017-02-04 22:43:14,,,Anonymous,bernie-senatefloor.jpg,bYqQ9EayNEN6wmKwOQp/aw==,US,,1486248194 111057121,111118618,2017-02-04 22:45:24,">>111057121 ANTICOM THREAD >>111106943",,PATRIOT,,,US,,1486248324 111057121,111119245,2017-02-04 22:49:46,">>111115651 I never bothered to check the numbers, but I think this dude brings the problem with protectionism across well: https://youtu.be/ewvbjiaH92g?t=143",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486248586 111057121,111121206,2017-02-04 23:03:56,I need a patch like this to add to my tactical vest.,,Anonymous,patch2.jpg,hRE5r3u3Noj8KDwZ02wZTg==,US,,1486249436 111190228,111190228,2017-02-05 10:54:17,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads. >tfw I can't believe there are still unironic socialists on our board. Communists are a threat to our liberty! Nat(((Soc))) are communists in denial! Reject these freedom hating faggots!",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - THE ONLY GOOD COMMIE IS A DEAD COMMIE EDITION,Anonymous,Flag.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1486292057 111190228,111190259,2017-02-05 10:54:32,,,Anonymous,TruePol.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,US,,1486292072 111190228,111190309,2017-02-05 10:54:52,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1486292092 111190228,111190768,2017-02-05 10:59:11,is it wrong if I promote comunism and welfare because I think more of it is the only way for people to see it doesn't work?,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486292351 111190228,111190841,2017-02-05 10:59:50,,,Anonymous,no_step.jpg,WcZ0TAoWqb+0VprInC2z9g==,US,,1486292390 111190228,111191064,2017-02-05 11:01:55,">>111190768 No. I think we've seen enough to know its trash.",,Anonymous,Generals.png,CX37xCo29T6LONyxnDyKZw==,US,,1486292515 111190228,111191508,2017-02-05 11:05:38,>>111190228,,Anonymous,1486017676166.jpg,i+uiBG338giDv6LzrNJJZQ==,DE,,1486292738 111190228,111191550,2017-02-05 11:06:00,">>111191064 not 70% of my country's electorate",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486292760 111190228,111191713,2017-02-05 11:07:24,Who Hopped-up here?,,Anonymous,Han Herman Hoppe reads snake Democracy the God That Failed.png,gGLUgX3jP4xxJx+JqvM6KA==,US,,1486292844 111190228,111191786,2017-02-05 11:08:01,">>111191550 What a shame. maybe you do need to destroy your country so they have a fresh reminder.",,Anonymous,augusto-pinochet-3.jpg,xpa9fY2csFPv4uIXQ2k+xQ==,US,,1486292881 111190228,111191878,2017-02-05 11:08:40,>>111191713,,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1486292920 111190228,111191990,2017-02-05 11:09:34,"Death to all commies >>111190768 Are you the spaniard that spams the /CG/? All you are doing with this is shit up the board.",,Anonymous,Apophis.png,G30qKTs3VKZa+Z7Foj+0Eg==,DE,,1486292974 111190228,111192091,2017-02-05 11:10:19,posting Hoppes,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,US,,1486293019 111190228,111192244,2017-02-05 11:11:42,Sometimes exclusion is necessary.,,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann Hoppe exclusion in libertarianism.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1486293102 111190228,111192457,2017-02-05 11:13:26,">>111190228 hey free bros",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486293206 111190228,111192480,2017-02-05 11:13:35,">>111191990 How do you do it german-bro? If I lived in your country i would have probably snapped and would start throwing molotovs.",,Anonymous,1486186775179.png,NHZlurCM1iiAzI+5pkZEAA==,US,,1486293215 111190228,111192513,2017-02-05 11:13:51,">>111191990 no, he aparently unironically likes gobunism",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486293231 111190228,111192757,2017-02-05 11:15:59,"The left and welfare state has lead to the restriction of the exclusion/punishment of degenerates and criminals, etc. This is creating a system where the moral, intelligent, and hard-working people are held-back by the immoral, stupid, and lazy people.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,US,,1486293359 111190228,111193015,2017-02-05 11:18:01,">>111192480 We need some back/yellow Pepes.",,Anonymous,ancap frog hippity hoppity get off my property large Hoppean removal.png,qznApWB2iZSQbexxSco2Bw==,US,,1486293481 111190228,111193122,2017-02-05 11:18:49,">>111193015 there are many.",,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1486293529 111190228,111193169,2017-02-05 11:19:11,>>111193015,,Anonymous,1485711063126.jpg,uZgjpI1iQy2kQSfn0+qGLw==,US,,1486293551 111190228,111193336,2017-02-05 11:20:28,">>111193015 also extended vers",,Anonymous,1485704915338.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,US,,1486293628 111190228,111193598,2017-02-05 11:22:36,,,Anonymous,1482217107100.jpg,bETxKOL/OEqkelmYdUk4fQ==,US,,1486293756 111190228,111193616,2017-02-05 11:22:47,"Christopher Cantwell is a bretty cool guy. He's a good representation of the militant libertarian-nationalist mindset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJN-lWOcuSI",,Anonymous,Hoppean Snake listening to Augusto Pinochet tribute song.png,2U1SG3Aab74Tgzt1qZckrQ==,US,,1486293767 111190228,111193972,2017-02-05 11:25:44,Here's a 3D printer gun code for those of you who live in cucked countries.,,Anonymous,3D printer gun code.png,c/hcpZayB4nOaakBAuDyDA==,US,,1486293944 111190228,111194070,2017-02-05 11:26:31,">>111193616 damn dude, I'd hang with that guy.",,Anonymous,dude.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,US,,1486293991 111190228,111194791,2017-02-05 11:32:39,">>111192480 Germans are genetically modified to endure any kind of bullshit around them without complaining. Sometimes I wonder myself how calm I am.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486294359 111190228,111194866,2017-02-05 11:33:07,,,Anonymous,1459829467705.jpg,7FFnFgmR8HoHiFJH6rJeSA==,US,,1486294387 111190228,111195017,2017-02-05 11:34:28,>>111193972,,Anonymous,1477891169115.gif,kUwGHbev+GsE6l8vuYgXiw==,US,,1486294468 111190228,111195322,2017-02-05 11:36:55,">>111195017 The Wizard. I literally watched this last night. Was quite good, even if it did seem to be a Nintendo commercial. The thing that stood out for me was the wife who was BTFO even by her new husband (who later redeemed himself via vidya)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486294615 111190228,111195785,2017-02-05 11:40:29,">>111193616 Cantwell is pretty based.",,Anonymous,1170767_563489800355138_1902371983_n.jpg,pr1iY1osWZpr65KwK5ScAw==,GB,,1486294829 111190228,111195948,2017-02-05 11:42:07,">>111190228 ¿But killing commies not violate the NPA?",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1486294927 111190228,111196089,2017-02-05 11:43:09,">>111193616 huehue le edgy nazi likely just LARPing >>111195948 preemptive self defense",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486294989 111190228,111197457,2017-02-05 11:54:49,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486295689 111190228,111197744,2017-02-05 11:57:05,>>111190228,,Anonymous,1485523340218.png,/8R2vaK9rfw+K1OoEyyTXw==,US,,1486295825 111190228,111199458,2017-02-05 12:10:53,">>111190228 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoIZdEBf9Wk",,Anonymous,3980674-3x4-700x933.jpg,34KhYs/Dh0NmdYqX+9FTeQ==,GB,,1486296653 111190228,111201165,2017-02-05 12:23:19,">>111196089 >>111195948 im minarchist and dont do the commie killing thing, they have to start shit first",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486297399 111190228,111201561,2017-02-05 12:26:13,>>111201165,,Anonymous,Personalities.png,aXlAl2u5gEzAo6UIS0BxZg==,US,,1486297573 111190228,111202226,2017-02-05 12:30:56,">>111195948 no, the NAP doesnt apply to commies",,Anonymous,1485956651535.png,Nrx+cxQCzj86/KroRDrnKQ==,IL,,1486297856 111190228,111202846,2017-02-05 12:35:29,"does libertarian fascism work, u guys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486298129 111190228,111203380,2017-02-05 12:39:32,">>111202846 sure it works, nothing stops you from gathering likeminded people and purchasing a piece of land for your fascist covenant, no violence necessary",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486298372 111190228,111203948,2017-02-05 12:43:43,">>111203380 good, good say, however, two meters around the perimeter of my purchased land are declared-----by me-----public property and public place, but only for specific people (say, blue-eyed caucs) if a, say, dark-skinned anonymous were to step inside my blue-eyed-cauc-only land, would this be a violation of property decrees and would i be able to use physical force to remove him?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486298623 111190228,111204416,2017-02-05 12:47:01,this thread is the best thing to happen to /pol/,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486298821 111190228,111204684,2017-02-05 12:48:59,what is your guys reaction to trump winning? do you think he's good for E C O N O M I C L I B E R T Y ?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486298939 111190228,111204736,2017-02-05 12:49:19,">>111204416 nah best thing was when hiro deleted /pol/, but that was on an alternate timeline",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486298959 111190228,111205035,2017-02-05 12:51:41,">>111203948 you wouldn't be entitled to shit around your perimeter just like you aren't entitled to claim shit outside your back yard because that'd be someone else's property which you'd be violating and as such asking to be removed by the rightful owner instead, you could motivate your people to work hard and perhaps afford yourselves another plot of land thus facilitating enlargement provided the owner of said land would be willing to voluntarily sell it to you",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486299101 111190228,111205266,2017-02-05 12:53:16,">>111204684 He's no libertarian. But he will give us a good cleansing. Maybe opening a possibility for a libertarian future.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486299196 111190228,111205534,2017-02-05 12:54:58,">>111204684 Yes and No He plans to cut a lot of regulation and corporation tax which will be good for the economy and businesses. But his protectionist policies will drive up prices in America and around the world.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486299298 111190228,111205566,2017-02-05 12:55:15,">>111190228 Are left libertarians welcome in this thread?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1486299315 111190228,111206056,2017-02-05 12:58:50,>>111205566,,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1486299530 111190228,111206142,2017-02-05 12:59:31,">>111205566 I believe left libertarians are deluded communists because without economic freedom one becomes a slave to whatever coercive structure enforcing the absence of economic freedom and personal liberties alongside it perhaps you'd care to convince us otherwise?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486299571 111190228,111206484,2017-02-05 13:02:12,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8WNQTCoWfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR0ICMGFRRE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG-qcV_a98g&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v_UP5IX2zI I'm unironically willing to craft some of these items and use them against Antifa.",,Anonymous,Untitled4.png,FMNhUhEVwPzQRvN8iEHT/A==,US,,1486299732 111190228,111206551,2017-02-05 13:02:43,,,Anonymous,national-fascism-socialism-authoritarian-nationalist-capitalism-populism-conservatism-libertarianism-classical-12755212.png,9ZA5rpJlCc2854UHVbdUoA==,US,,1486299763 111190228,111206619,2017-02-05 13:03:10,">>111190259 Nice edit, faggot. This board does not belong to you. Stay on reddit.",,Anonymous,1481239884388.jpg,11EmmstzStNnLFBMBIlPOA==,US,,1486299790 111190228,111207159,2017-02-05 13:07:08,">>111206619 Wow ISIS definitely would like you killing innocent people. Why do Jews deserve to be executed??? Do you believe they are like robots and think all the same and have all the same political views??? Or maybe each Jew is an individual like me and you. and all have different political views. Stop being so idiotic.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486300028 111190228,111207435,2017-02-05 13:09:08,">>111207159 Don't try to reason with someone who unironically posts that image.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486300148 111190228,111207852,2017-02-05 13:12:06,">>111207159 You don't understand faggot. (((They))) control everything, the left, the right, any free market, any controlled market. UltraZionism is trying to destroy western civilization by infusing modern culture with degeneracy to blindside everyone to the shit that they're doing. They can get away with this entirely because if anyone even questions their authority they can say, ""Six Gorrillion!"" To disavow any argument that is made and label any opposition as ""Antisemitic."" This board used to be about national socialism. But as of 2015 every part of its core principles have been left to ruin. /pol/ is the new /b/.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486300326 111190228,111208074,2017-02-05 13:13:44,,,Anonymous,1481417097045-pol.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,US,,1486300424 111190228,111208186,2017-02-05 13:14:34,">>111204684 Preventing a factory from being built in Mexico is not necessarily going to mean it will be built in the United States instead, and a lot of people work for companies that rely on cheap goods from china. I also won't believe he's sincere about his beliefs until he starts to crack down on Saudi Arabia, and so far, he hasn't.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486300474 111190228,111208479,2017-02-05 13:16:33,">>111190259 >letting corporations rape your country for profit >moral",,Anonymous,1453136357419.png,M3zApEA/DNzceaVp+3erZQ==,GB,,1486300593 111190228,111208637,2017-02-05 13:17:34,">>111208479 >letting the government rape you instead",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486300654 111190228,111208987,2017-02-05 13:19:49,">>111207852 >UltraZionism Zionism means to advocate for a Jewish state, or to support a Jewish state. >(((They))) control everything, Again more hive mind bullshit, that Jews all think the same and have agenda against white people its total nonsense. >Six Gorrillion Evidence for the holocaust is undeniable. The vast majority of jews who were killed were not from Germany but mainly the occupied areas of the Soviet Union or Poland who were rounded up and shot then thrown into ditches. Only a minority were gassed in concentration camps. The fact that you deny this shows you are a fool and idiot and truly a FAGGOT",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486300789 111190228,111209261,2017-02-05 13:21:43,"The good thing is everyone here hates commies, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486300903 111190228,111209282,2017-02-05 13:21:51,">>111206619 We own this board. Always have.",,Anonymous,ancapsnek.jpg,vNPbYnDp8s2qkWqmd3ArjQ==,US,,1486300911 111190228,111209419,2017-02-05 13:22:54,">>111208637 At least the government pretends to care whereas corporations push diversity and the latest trends because they only care about profit",,Anonymous,1405198835421.png,y29NhtdUm/bvJRBayIB8nw==,GB,,1486300974 111190228,111209451,2017-02-05 13:23:11,">>111208479 The reason corporations are so powerful today is because of interventionist government policy which has hammered small business and small companies leaving only corporations left, if we had a truly free market system. Corporations would not be so influential as they are now.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486300991 111190228,111209494,2017-02-05 13:23:29,">>111208637 >Ignoring human nature and the way society needs to be coordinated in order to sustain the greatest quality of life. >>111208987 You're just buttblasted because I'm calling you out on your bullshit. Most of the ""people"" that own multinational corporations are kikes. They think they own mankind.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486301009 111190228,111209813,2017-02-05 13:25:49,">>111208987 >implying the only way to advance mutual goals is through a literal hivemind Nice misrepresentation. #NotAllJews amirite XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvBBmMN0JvY",,Anonymous,CoTJz2CWcAAgpDj.jpg,TrRRgJen1LCa3pLQVpV+2g==,US,,1486301149 111190228,111210203,2017-02-05 13:28:44,">>111209494 No you have verbal diarrhoea. Talking complete shit. Since a large portions of Jews run corporations. That must mean the JOOOSSSS are taking over the world. So that must mean if a large portion of black people dominate a certain job sector then by your logic they are trying to take over the world too am I right??? Where is the reasoning behind that??? NONE",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486301324 111190228,111210267,2017-02-05 13:29:13,">>111209813 you leftist moralfags alway are using ""oppression"" to push your commie utopia. I am not oppressed faggot. go write a fucking blog about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486301353 111190228,111210541,2017-02-05 13:31:00,">>111209419 >At least the government pretends to care Is this supposed to be a good thing? If corporations were the only ones preaching open boarders, refugees would have to pay their own way here, and support themselves if they make it. The government takes your money and uses it to help the refugees get here, and then takes more of it to support them for life. If you really want the government to have that kind of power over you, then you are part of the problem. >>111209494 Human nature? You mean what drives us all to put our family first, ahead of everyone else? You believe that giving a few people total power under the gun to put their elite families ahead of everyone else, is some how better than empowering the entire country with the freedom to put their families first?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486301460 111190228,111210928,2017-02-05 13:33:36,">>111210203 >Circular kike logic Turns out if 2% of the population owns ~90% of the media they can control the narrative of the citizens pretty damn well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwmy19ZEMw0",,Anonymous,a89.png,dR1XsohE8urZwj3Feu9udg==,US,,1486301616 111190228,111211132,2017-02-05 13:34:59,">>111210267 >leftist Oh anon....",,Anonymous,1478417043006.jpg,QK6fCvz/DebTb/PHZ9ZZEg==,US,,1486301699 111190228,111211188,2017-02-05 13:35:19,How to make sick logos like in OPs pic?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486301719 111190228,111211225,2017-02-05 13:35:27,">>111210928 >did you know 1 percent own 99 percent own most of the wealth how are you not a commie again?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486301727 111190228,111211622,2017-02-05 13:37:56,">>111210203 >That must mean the JOOOSSSS are taking over the world. No. They took over the world a long time ago. Now they're slowly working to dilute the rightful traditions of our ancestors by pacifying the population whether they be left or right. They want to create a state in which people have no identity. They want to create a state in which people live to serve the system and its needs. You can see this for yourself; The schools, the workplace, it's everywhere. >>111210541 No leafymcgee. We need to work together in a clean system under the guidance of an incorruptible government that knows what it's doing. We need a social hierarchy to stand prominently over mankind so that we can preserve tradition and our culture and not let it fade away. The ""freedom"" which libertarians spout is nothing more than a fabrication put out so that faggots like you have an excuse to do whatever they want. In a utopian society, there are people to rule and people to be ruled over. It's been that way since the first civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486301876 111190228,111211655,2017-02-05 13:38:10,">>111211132 If the Kims in North Korea were replaced with Hitlers, it would be the exact same god damn shit hole with a different symbol.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486301890 111190228,111212235,2017-02-05 13:42:10,">>111211622 >The ""freedom"" which libertarians spout is nothing more than a fabrication put out so that faggots like you have an excuse to do whatever they want. > In a utopian society There's your problem right there. You believe that freedom, which can be experienced, and means the same thing to just about everyone, is a fabrication, yet you believe in ""Utopia"" which has never been experienced, and means many different things from person to person.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486302130 111190228,111212478,2017-02-05 13:43:35,">>111211225 >implying wealth and media/banking control are the same Communism is a Jewish creation. I have no desire to redistribute your $, I merely want to expel the foreign influence from OUR media and OUR schools and OUR culture.",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-01-01 at 3.55.25 PM.png,BSssYUwK15jBKjwiGZc7wg==,US,,1486302215 111190228,111212539,2017-02-05 13:44:08,">>111212235 I know leafs are retarded but come on. You're talking out of your ass.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486302248 111190228,111212938,2017-02-05 13:46:49,">>111211655 Hitler turned Germany from a degenerate shithole into the most prosperous and strongest country in the world within 1 decade. To say it's the same is Korean Juche Communism is a pathetic misrepresentation.",,Anonymous,1478344942664.jpg,w8V9ByvWcYFHGHhz2s1tcQ==,US,,1486302409 111190228,111213029,2017-02-05 13:47:26,">>111212478 well then you're not a nazi, you're just a dumb larper. Hitler created a welfare state through redistribution",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486302446 111190228,111213182,2017-02-05 13:48:36,">libertarians have a reading list >fascists don't Top kek are they illiterate? Too bad you're porkies tho",,Anonymous,1486225177143.jpg,AiQPYYIlF/YblhXfLpyXAQ==,GB,,1486302516 111190228,111213469,2017-02-05 13:50:34,">>111206619 get a load of the triggered stormweenie and his psychological projections lmfao. fuck off, liberty hating retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486302634 111190228,111213518,2017-02-05 13:50:56,">>111213182 Your going down with them.",,Anonymous,1479813434720.jpg,snRv8Xt7apslchWuvHjQOA==,US,,1486302656 111190228,111213559,2017-02-05 13:51:12,">>111204736 >tfw pic related",,Anonymous,pol-cuckold.png,dmMdAddFk97POuemWG86ow==,AT,,1486302672 111190228,111213592,2017-02-05 13:51:29,">>111213518 Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486302689 111190228,111213971,2017-02-05 13:54:09,">>111213029 No more than what we have today. There are benefits to having a safety net to help YOUR OWN people, but NOT when you allow millions of non-whites to enter the country and leech from us. In either case we can't even truly debate on the efficacy of redistribution until the Left and the nonwhites are removed. >not supporting welfare is rayyyciss",,Anonymous,Life in Nazi Germany.png,w/prY3oGwwLnmnJPyAPIPQ==,US,,1486302849 111190228,111214047,2017-02-05 13:54:37,">tfw pol is becoming libertarian again feels good man",,Anonymous,ron pol.png,stvcm3mvXixkehHovPH0CA==,IL,,1486302877 111190228,111214204,2017-02-05 13:55:43,">>111213182 tough choice between remaining an impotent 'woe is me' schreeching prole and risking life and limb to loot your fellow man, innit?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486302943 111190228,111214469,2017-02-05 13:57:32,">>111213971 ""My people"" are my family. you're not worthy to be in my family simply because you're white. you have to earn it looser.",,Anonymous,NAP.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1486303052 111190228,111214797,2017-02-05 13:59:33,">>111212539 ""no u"" >>111212938 1 decade of recovery before a major war is hardly a valid test for the viability of a welfare state. The roaring 20s saw one of the biggest economic booms in the history of the United States, for 1 decade.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486303173 111190228,111215832,2017-02-05 14:06:48,">>111190228 R8 my oc snek",,Anonymous,youtread.png,f47hZMm0mKVR2pax4j+zSw==,US,,1486303608 111190228,111215938,2017-02-05 14:07:28,">>111214469 I don't want your damn money cunt, I want you to give a shit about your people. http://is2.4chan.org/wsg/1480768591311.webm",,Anonymous,1483826978731.jpg,S5b3Tw0VWUkMZlqVFzTbSw==,US,,1486303648 111190228,111216000,2017-02-05 14:07:53,">>111214047 feels real good my jew.",,Anonymous,pol.png,GXBKZi1LPEgIVyl9GVIRYw==,US,,1486303673 111190228,111216015,2017-02-05 14:07:59,">>111190228 I'm some mix of Libertarian and Civic Nationalist. The effete nature of the party and strict demand for adherence to ideological purity turn me off these days.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486303679 111190228,111216557,2017-02-05 14:11:35,">>111215938 I do care about my kind. I just don't want a dictator to force me to work for their welfare.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486303895 111190228,111216637,2017-02-05 14:12:08,">>111215832 Totally badass/10",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486303928 111190228,111216927,2017-02-05 14:14:04,">>111214204 Fuck off not an argument lad :^) also fuck off the commie thread",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486304044 111190228,111217095,2017-02-05 14:15:13,">>111215938 ""Your people"" have no obligation to care about you. Go volunteer for a charity, or at least donate to one, if you want to help the less fortunate that's just fine.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486304113 111190228,111217540,2017-02-05 14:18:22,">>111216015 that's fine bro. The libertarian party is far beyond cucked.",,Anonymous,set.png,MD8UMiQ2P29hwy4QatTHuQ==,US,,1486304302 111190228,111219193,2017-02-05 14:29:43,Bump,,Anonymous,the_libertarian_plot_sticker_refecfbfb70314a6b92b50b97a0b7c25f_v9i40_8byvr_512_300x300.jpg,ZgZUmmf4sxvnanlnp1y5qQ==,US,,1486304983 111190228,111219618,2017-02-05 14:32:36,"What are those alternative lifestyles that Hoppe refers to on ""Democracy - The God that Failed""?",,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,AR,,1486305156 111190228,111221279,2017-02-05 14:42:52,>>111190228,,Anonymous,1486178416451.jpg,JGjhsuJB2V8y5pSaZoCPTw==,TN,,1486305772 111190228,111221392,2017-02-05 14:43:35,">>111219618 I haven't read that yet, im taking the hoppe pill now, could you quote it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486305815 111361116,111361116,2017-02-06 10:21:02,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Thread Tunes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhD4Zth_SVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84wEWP-vWQk >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Sweet Pickup Trucks.",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - STAY AWAY FROM DIXIE EDITION,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1486376462 111361116,111361180,2017-02-06 10:21:36,,,Anonymous,confederate-pinup-girl.jpg,Azk0YNqnk7TFgfqZIEpnNA==,US,,1486376496 111361116,111361226,2017-02-06 10:22:02,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1486376522 111361116,111361761,2017-02-06 10:27:24,,,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,EAA4csiIr24LbTkv+TFr6w==,US,,1486376844 111361116,111363032,2017-02-06 10:39:48,This general is even less welcome than communism general,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1486377588 112188762,112188762,2017-02-11 16:33:34,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FREE BREADSTICKS EDITION,Anonymous,for you.png,XXiYmC/lR/O3sjID5hCe/Q==,BR,,1486830814 112188762,112188937,2017-02-11 16:35:01,#DUBSFORHOPPE,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486830901 112188762,112189034,2017-02-11 16:35:46,">>112188762 BUILD ROAD",,Anonymous,libertarian.jpg,8PkE0BVsB1Q6wLxyyRnZCA==,US,,1486830946 112188762,112190039,2017-02-11 16:43:54,">Countries with low (<20% of GDP) government intervention into the economy: Bangladesh, Burkina Faso, Burma, Central African Republic, Ethiopia, Guatemala, Pakistan, Nepal, Dominican Republic, Indonesia, Madagascar. >Countries with high (>40% of GDP) government intervention into the economy: USA, France, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark, Canada, Japan, Austria, United Kingdom, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Iceland. Where would you rather live?",,Anonymous,Economics.jpg,+v3g4DosWvCbFRo4azCNyA==,DE,,1486831434 112188762,112190185,2017-02-11 16:45:09,">>112190039 Venezuela",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1486831509 112188762,112190316,2017-02-11 16:46:15,">>112190185 nono, you didn't choose from his choices!",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486831575 112188762,112190935,2017-02-11 16:51:47,">>112190185 Venezuela is below 40%.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486831907 112188762,112191050,2017-02-11 16:52:40,">>112190039 The difference would be 10 bigger, if there were no intervention in the latter list countries. It would be so huge, that the progress would of spread and lifted the shitholes too.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1486831960 112293497,112293497,2017-02-12 10:36:20,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. From now on I'm going to reserve this general for sundays, if you like this thread post it yourself but I will always post it on sundays. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads So /pol/ what are you doing to secure a free and prosperous future for yourself?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FREE YOUR MIND AND YOUR ASS WILL FOLLOW EDITION,Anonymous,Classic2.png,DSiJ3d2XMcu1ILpMb2rbTA==,US,,1486895780 112293497,112293529,2017-02-12 10:36:54,,,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1486895814 112293497,112293563,2017-02-12 10:37:13,H O P P E,,Anonymous,1483564195196.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1486895833 112293497,112293591,2017-02-12 10:37:31,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1486895851 112293497,112293623,2017-02-12 10:37:48,,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1486895868 112293497,112293664,2017-02-12 10:38:10,fuck roads,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486895890 112293497,112293676,2017-02-12 10:38:16,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3_00000.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1486895896 112293497,112293709,2017-02-12 10:38:39,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1486895919 112293497,112293759,2017-02-12 10:39:10,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,ZzQt4mV0UBQStrESUoOc5Q==,PT,,1486895950 112293497,112293800,2017-02-12 10:39:38,,,Anonymous,1483553710757.jpg,9OsTh47MiKXf/yO/lfA3Dw==,PT,,1486895978 112293497,112293853,2017-02-12 10:40:13,">>112293664 Off road is for real men!",,Anonymous,FuckRoads.jpg,+4LQ8TFMp2VIi9yedfZQRQ==,US,,1486896013 112293497,112293856,2017-02-12 10:40:16,,,Anonymous,1481826264653.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1486896016 112293497,112293903,2017-02-12 10:40:41,,,Anonymous,1481387763619.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1486896041 112293497,112293905,2017-02-12 10:40:44,">>112293497 >AND YOUR ASS WILL FOLLOW EDITION FAGGOT",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1486896044 112293497,112293939,2017-02-12 10:41:10,"Stop pretending to value liberty and just come out of the closet as fascists already. That goes especially for you ""Hoppean"" memers. The guy is literally the definition of a crypto-fascist. >liberty for all except those I don't like >also I worship a Chilean dictator You are kidding yourselves.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1486896070 112293497,112293943,2017-02-12 10:41:12,,,Anonymous,1481300198128.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1486896072 112293497,112294034,2017-02-12 10:42:08,">>112293497 Libertarinism is based on a premise of objective morality, which does not and cannot exist, hence libertarianism is nonsense.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486896128 112293497,112294151,2017-02-12 10:43:19,">>112293939 t. never read Hoppe You haven't read a single of his books I bet.",,Anonymous,1479526935629.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1486896199 112293497,112294212,2017-02-12 10:43:52,">>112294034 >objective morality doesn't exist Wrong, you've been cucked by dark occultists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486896232 112293497,112294341,2017-02-12 10:45:10,,,Anonymous,1459645911184.jpg,i31VNL8f6AngYDFNWM0YSg==,PT,,1486896310 112293497,112294362,2017-02-12 10:45:27,">>112294212 Saying something is ""wrong"" is not an argument. Let's see you prove objective morality without appealing to Gods (appealing to Gods makes your case even more silly, by the way, since you then also need to prove the existence of God).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486896327 112293497,112294425,2017-02-12 10:46:05,">>112294034 >objective morality doesn't exist",,Anonymous,1482970319773.png,csW5xl6/mwctUz4fmIQwfg==,PT,,1486896365 112293497,112294434,2017-02-12 10:46:13,Is AnCap the master race?,,Anonymous,1486251984394.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,BR,,1486896373 112293497,112294482,2017-02-12 10:46:37,"Libertarian society is only maintainable in white societies. Discuss.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486896397 112293497,112294677,2017-02-12 10:48:39,">>112294362 If you could not objectively assert that you are the sole and exclusive owner of your body (including your vocal chords) you could not even attempt to engage in argumentation without becoming entangled in a performative contradiction.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486896519 112293497,112294693,2017-02-12 10:48:48,"The existence of God is self evident in our free will and the laws that govern reality to make it what it is, and don't think I'm at all advocating religious mockeries of God.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486896528 112293497,112294742,2017-02-12 10:49:16,">>112294693 for >>112294362",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486896556 112293497,112294748,2017-02-12 10:49:21,>>112294482,,Anonymous,1483552854547.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1486896561 112293497,112295103,2017-02-12 10:53:12,">>112293497 Hey",,Anonymous,image.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,FR,,1486896792 112293497,112295165,2017-02-12 10:53:48,">>112294693 That's not an argument, just a baseless assertion stemming from your own particular bias. >>112294677 Ownership is an abstraction that doesn't exist in reality. And yes, we often have to delude ourselves with various ideas in order to function in society, but that doesn't mean those ideas exist objectively.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486896828 112293497,112295272,2017-02-12 10:54:59,">>112295103 This. Damn conservatives or libertarians who say ""muh rights come from God"". There are so much better arguments which don't require God.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486896899 112293497,112295375,2017-02-12 10:55:59,huwhite Hoppe utopia when?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486896959 112293497,112295457,2017-02-12 10:56:55,">>112295165 >ownership is am abstraction that doesn't exist in reality >ownership in one's body is intersubjectively ascertainable by virtually every person including primitives >ownership is abstract >but I own my body to be able to write this down :^)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486897015 112293497,112295536,2017-02-12 10:57:47,">>112295375 Soon my fellow huwhite person. Interestingly enough, Jared Taylor reviewed Democracy The God That Failed",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486897067 112293497,112295615,2017-02-12 10:58:41,">>112295272 Yes, this is why we oppose fascism. I am the highest power and only I will secure a future for myself and my loved ones.",,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,EAA4csiIr24LbTkv+TFr6w==,US,,1486897121 112293497,112295771,2017-02-12 11:00:29,">>112295615 But...but...you are...egoist !!! That's bad",,Anonymous,image.jpg,uP8z3+8rmI/vHLFsVk9gNQ==,FR,,1486897229 112293497,112295781,2017-02-12 11:00:38,">>112294482 Naturally, white people would want to live with other white people, blacks with blacks, jews with jews etc... and without any welfare system, all the low IQ races would not be able to leech off of other people. most societies would naturally be mostly exclusive to one race.",,Anonymous,1486311529357.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,IL,,1486897238 112293497,112295803,2017-02-12 11:00:51,"Capitalism has some flaws. For example, if you import enough people, you can simply drive down living standards. People get paid less unless the economy grows with the population growth. Even if it grows, you still have to deal with increased density and living in apartments instead of houses.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486897251 112293497,112295856,2017-02-12 11:01:30,">>112295457 Finally, you realise that existence is one massive contradiction.. Now you should stop reading libertarian hacks and read real philosophers like Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Kierkagaard.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486897290 112293497,112295864,2017-02-12 11:01:35,">>112295165 Relativism is for slaves, it blinds you to the objective nature that governs the reality we all share.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486897295 112293497,112295897,2017-02-12 11:01:57,">>112293497 Just pay $5 for a website where you host personal information on every ANTIFA faggot you can find. Data collection should probably be crowd sourced from a collection of volunteers.",,Anonymous,1474869339267.jpg,YEOzVhXxKbipOp5GaIOMyA==,US,,1486897317 112293497,112295962,2017-02-12 11:02:48,">>112293939 t. ""left-libertarian"" When forcing people to deal with people even if they don't want isn't authoritarian.",,Anonymous,Pepe sniping Marx.jpg,lsJXyMTMeC8MCjDWhzgD0w==,GB,,1486897368 112293497,112295972,2017-02-12 11:02:57,"Fascism is the way forward. Whites will not survive without it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486897377 112293497,112296098,2017-02-12 11:04:27,">>112294034 It revolves around self ownership. If you don't want to talk ethics, you could take up things from there and still be libertarian light.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486897467 112293497,112296125,2017-02-12 11:04:44,">>112295864 Relativism is the basis of human existence. However, that does not mean we shouldn't construct narratives and ideals. We have to, otherwise we can't live.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486897484 112293497,112296182,2017-02-12 11:05:28,">>112293939 *boards helicopter*",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1486897528 112293497,112296186,2017-02-12 11:05:33,">>112295781 Is Jeffrey Tucker solely responsible for the association of bow-tie with ancapism?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486897533 112293497,112296201,2017-02-12 11:05:40,">>112295803 how is that a flaw of capitalism? just don't import niggers you retard. >>112295856 >believe in nothing acomplish nothing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486897540 112293497,112296489,2017-02-12 11:09:07,">>112296125 Nope, individuals may not always have a perfect understanding of objective reality, but collectively over time we put the puzzle pieces together to be able to judge what objectively is and isn't. No opinion can change natural law, if you walk in front of traffic you will be hit and killed. Objective reality is very real and so is natural law which is the basis of reality for what it is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486897747 112293497,112296633,2017-02-12 11:10:41,">>112296201 Yes. It is a flaw of capitalism as the sole mechanism of societal control. More of a complaint about libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486897841 112293497,112296675,2017-02-12 11:11:09,">>112296201 >>believe in nothing acomplish nothing. I didn't say that you should believe in nothing. Nor would any relativist or existentialist. You should construct your own meaning, while at the same time accepting that it's objectively meaningless, simply a narrative you tell yourself.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486897869 112293497,112296751,2017-02-12 11:12:01,">>112296125 No Sargon, biology is the basis of human existence. So reproduction is objectively what people are objectively designed for. Relativism is for retards who think they are smarter then they are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486897921 112293497,112296849,2017-02-12 11:13:03,">>112296633 Don't let them in then, if they can't afford, they won't go, immigration wouldn't be a problem. >>112296675 Hard mental dissonance.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486897983 112293497,112296896,2017-02-12 11:13:34,">>112295803 Who imports those people and why would I be forced to associate with those people in a free society formed by different private, covenant-based communities?",,Anonymous,hanshermannhoppe.jpg,ZdjyTmJ81Lu39p/lvSeDvA==,AR,,1486898014 112293497,112296990,2017-02-12 11:14:31,">>112296489 I am not arguing against the existence of objective reality (the objective world), I'm arguing against the existence of objective values (human abstractions, particularly related to how one should live or behave). As for walking in front of traffic and being hit and killed, that's only meaningful at the level of human existence, your death is irrelevant at the scale of the universe.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486898071 112293497,112297107,2017-02-12 11:15:45,">>112296896 That would definitely work if things were arranged in that way.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486898145 112293497,112297178,2017-02-12 11:16:26,">>112296896 Today you are white. Good job.",,Anonymous,1483551808960m.jpg,qDTiAVShIyjotVAQxfWVbA==,PT,,1486898186 112293497,112297236,2017-02-12 11:16:59,">>112296751 >So reproduction is objectively what people are objectively designed for. But that isn't a human invented abstraction, is it? Maybe you're the one that thinks you're smarter than you are, since you don't understand my position, yet shoot your mouth off with 100% certainty.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486898219 112293497,112297272,2017-02-12 11:17:26,">>112296633 Only people who are willing to work and contribute to society are going to survive in a libertarian society. Even if somehow some shadow organisation forcefully imports niggers, they will have to work just like everyone else or leave.",,Anonymous,1485953287457.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,IL,,1486898246 112293497,112297299,2017-02-12 11:17:37,">>112297107 But you could say that about any economic system, if you import more people then the system can handle it should surprise no one that the living standards go down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486898257 112293497,112297377,2017-02-12 11:18:21,Is /lrg/ the only thread on /pol/ with actual political discussion?,,Anonymous,Hmmm.png,28cLQpYxKTNPNOr26GXcew==,US,,1486898301 112293497,112297405,2017-02-12 11:18:37,">>112296990 Natural law is objective morality, and the concept that we can't know what is objectively right and wrong is a programmed abstraction",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486898317 112293497,112297419,2017-02-12 11:18:42,">>112297272 It doesn't matter if they work though. If more people exist, it means the supply side of the wage price changes. Unless there is more demand, wages will go down.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486898322 112293497,112297555,2017-02-12 11:20:04,">>112297377 This and my Hoppe General",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486898404 112293497,112297576,2017-02-12 11:20:17,">>112293497 If you guys would stop being stop being such flaming faggots it would be a lot easier to crush communism as allies.",,Anonymous,IMG_2742.jpg,3Rx0txj7/Eq3D1Ows5iCdA==,US,,1486898417 112293497,112297583,2017-02-12 11:20:19,">>112297405 People have tried to prove the existence of natural law since before Socrates and nobody has managed to do it, in fact, really smart people realised it wasn't possible, unless you shoehorn in deities (which require a suspension of disbelief).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486898419 112293497,112297593,2017-02-12 11:20:29,">>112296896 You wouldn't because this means that you can live as a free man and enjoying your personal property without damaging others",,Anonymous,image.jpg,y7p6mUme9aMhhOEr7ejMDQ==,FR,,1486898429 112293497,112297666,2017-02-12 11:21:16,">>112296990 >your death is irrelevant at the scale of the universe. Then everything is irrelevant, but why do you care about others lifeless planets? We don't value chickens as human, stick to the immanent world, dumb brit.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486898476 112293497,112297695,2017-02-12 11:21:31,">>112297377 apparently >>112297419 more people = more demand = more supply",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1486898491 112293497,112297752,2017-02-12 11:22:04,">>112297236 Morals have a basis in biology. Why else would humans have developed morals if they were not biologically advantageous? Living in a group where the members don't kill each other over food is advantageous to you and your genetic offspring. It's why lesser primates have rudimentary ethics. They will for the most part not kill one another over nothing. Sargon, why are you such a relativist one minute and a moralist the next?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486898524 112293497,112297778,2017-02-12 11:22:27,">>112297299 This is not true if the immigrants produce their own income.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486898547 112293497,112297814,2017-02-12 11:22:49,">>112294034 >Claims objective morality doesn't exist >Makes a normative claim",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486898569 112293497,112297855,2017-02-12 11:23:14,">>112297377 Looks like yes Commie general is shitposting NatSoc general is singlejerking On this thread we have real discussion We /patrician/ nao",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486898594 112293497,112297875,2017-02-12 11:23:35,">>112297576 Dude, you're an alright guy and i would work with you. I'm just not going to suck the fuhrers dick. I will not bow to any arbitraitor.",,Anonymous,Best_Pals.png,3ldWWfoSbpbxjOAWhRyRTQ==,US,,1486898615 112293497,112297957,2017-02-12 11:24:32,">>112297583 Natural law has been known for ages, but it's been hidden to control people like you. The relativism you're fed is to keep you enslaved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486898672 112293497,112297961,2017-02-12 11:24:39,">>112297752 We have a basis in biology to construct abstractions, obviously, but that doesn't make those abstractions objectively real.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486898679 112293497,112298009,2017-02-12 11:25:07,">>112297576 Just don't send the SS because I disagree with you on some issues and it's fine",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486898707 112293497,112298024,2017-02-12 11:25:19,,,Anonymous,06976cec73f5cf4c3aa9de30e477a6281ec0096e7e864d901546b00eed1a96dd.jpg,kRVM3KcZfZ0OWAzT2OOQlw==,US,,1486898719 112293497,112298038,2017-02-12 11:25:29,">>112297778 True but we all know with a welfare state that rarely happens",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486898729 112293497,112298063,2017-02-12 11:25:41,">>112297555 yeah that too. I've only seen one edition, i'd like to see more",,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1486898741 112293497,112298100,2017-02-12 11:26:10,">>112297666 >Then everything is irrelevant Yes, anything beyond physics, chemistry, and biology has no objective meaning, but that does not obstruct the construction of subjective meaning.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486898770 112293497,112298108,2017-02-12 11:26:13,">>112297695 > more people = more demand = more supply That isn't how it works exactly. More people, but they need money. Especially if they are from poorer countries, they will not consume as much. They will also increase house prices, which does not increase employment levels all that much.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486898773 112293497,112298254,2017-02-12 11:27:53,">>112297576 I get what you say but it practice it's a lot different. You won't bring about a Hoppetopia with a top down approach. Governments are monopolies and just like every monopoly they won't just disappear without a fight. If Fascism returned libertarians would absolutely be crushed as well. This is why we must endorse a bottom-up revolution by supporting separatist movements, secession, anti-democracy demonstrations, political humiliations, identitarian and nationalist uprisings, etc. We must ridicule the state and itsee agents and give back the power to the people. Read ""What Must be Done"" by Hoppe. It's a short read, less than 20 pages.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486898873 112293497,112298392,2017-02-12 11:29:26,">>112298063 I've only made two or them so far but only the last one had the FAQ section and a high number of memes and discussion. Would be nice if any of you guys just copy pasted the template for the thread and make them more often.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486898966 112293497,112298568,2017-02-12 11:31:07,">>112297961 So is all animal behavior subjective then? Instincts are subjective then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486899067 112293497,112298572,2017-02-12 11:31:09,">>112298038 Your people make the wealth, invite niggers, they live under welfare state. Thats sounds like a retarded plan. >>112298100 >Yes, anything beyond physics, chemistry, and biology No, everything. You're discussing the realm of the dead things. I don't know how to further this discussion. Don't be this reatarded, nihilist.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486899069 112293497,112298621,2017-02-12 11:31:36,">>112298108 If they are not going to consume as much, they will not need as much money. Capitalism adjusts itself according to society, not the other way around. >> They will also increase house prices, which does not increase employment levels all that much. Land mass isnt really an issue. Plus building and maintaining a house is pretty expensive",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1486899096 112293497,112298628,2017-02-12 11:31:43,">>112293497 >libertarians think removal of communists will magically make their fantasy world be a reality I really hope you're a teenager and not an actual adult holding these views.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486899103 112293497,112298680,2017-02-12 11:32:16,">>112298254 Nevar forget",,Anonymous,image.jpg,XtyXIqLdalUsuXxRJL1UBg==,FR,,1486899136 112293497,112298865,2017-02-12 11:34:31,">>112298392 What like make a pastebin for /lrg/ and /hoppe/?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486899271 112293497,112298929,2017-02-12 11:35:24,">>112298628 >statists think giving the right man some power will magically make everything perfect you can literally say this about any ideology",,Anonymous,1486320656022.jpg,snRv8Xt7apslchWuvHjQOA==,IL,,1486899324 112293497,112299323,2017-02-12 11:39:57,">>112297875 Sounds good to me, dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486899597 112293497,112299378,2017-02-12 11:40:37,,,Anonymous,1486845622251.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1486899637 112293497,112299431,2017-02-12 11:41:09,">>112298929 >when the OC you made 4 years ago gets resposted",,Anonymous,0505.png,5HKltJIISzoFGaDHLqMAJw==,US,,1486899669 112293497,112299473,2017-02-12 11:41:37,Anti-com is a great thing,,Anonymous,1486853650632.jpg,vhGSexPPqfIRpuOBx4pd0A==,US,,1486899697 112293497,112299630,2017-02-12 11:43:19,">>112299431 You trigerred /leftypol/ to do a commie version of your pic Good work m8",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486899799 112293497,112299651,2017-02-12 11:43:34,">>112298572 I'm not a nihilist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486899814 112293497,112299663,2017-02-12 11:43:39,bump,,Anonymous,snek (9).png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1486899819 112293497,112299715,2017-02-12 11:44:13,">>112299473 >>112299378 The world really needs a Triple-H Physical Removal Treatment",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1486899853 112293497,112299839,2017-02-12 11:45:20,">>112299378 This one is great",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486899920 112293497,112299956,2017-02-12 11:46:32,,,Anonymous,Generals.png,CX37xCo29T6LONyxnDyKZw==,US,,1486899992 112293497,112300083,2017-02-12 11:47:45,,,Anonymous,mfj84mnhvkdy.png,afeILQgCc9or6GqUOLdVCQ==,IL,,1486900065 112293497,112300330,2017-02-12 11:49:55,>>112300083,,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1486900195 112293497,112300356,2017-02-12 11:50:10,">>112298568 Animals don't have the consciousness to construct values. Value construction is a unique skill of ours. What are you trying to get at here? Are you trying to suggest that you can construct a morality system that coincides with human instinct, or in a large sense biology? And this now going very far off-topic from the moral justifications of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486900210 112293497,112300580,2017-02-12 11:52:13,">>112294434 No AnCap wants to have a civilized society based from people knowing eachother and trusting eachother and everybody having guns to protect themselfs. Im with you so far and i like the idea. However trust is based upon having the same Culture as your neighbor and ancaps are against borders, if we get a World that is ancap we would need a peoples army for every neighborhood to shoot all the sandmonkeys trying to invade.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1486900333 112293497,112300749,2017-02-12 11:53:41,death to all commies,,Anonymous,apophis_snek.png,RUCBVGg3+CpL4KEg0DeZ1g==,DE,,1486900421 112293497,112300774,2017-02-12 11:53:55,">>112300580 >ancaps are against borders No we're for private borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486900435 112293497,112300889,2017-02-12 11:55:02,">>112299630 tfw my highschool shitpost echoes through eternity",,Anonymous,close enuff.png,f7G7gCSkWgRWjo/3DlFkPg==,US,,1486900502 112293497,112300891,2017-02-12 11:55:03,">>112298680 >mfw I unironically think the Union was in the wrong simply because they fought secessionists",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1486900503 112293497,112300910,2017-02-12 11:55:11,">>112300580 >ancaps are againts borders State borders,not private",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486900511 112293497,112301236,2017-02-12 11:58:22,,,Anonymous,The_Time_for_Arguments_Has_Passed.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,US,,1486900702 112293497,112301249,2017-02-12 11:58:29,">>112300580 >However trust is based upon having the same Culture as your neighbor and ancaps are against borders Under anarcho-capitalism all property is private dude.... The only places where there wouldn't be property borders would be open frontiers (where dangerous criminals would be expelled to).",,Anonymous,1486826913195m.jpg,9Aphe/zV5PTWryFbiEyzYg==,PT,,1486900709 112293497,112301340,2017-02-12 11:59:19,">>112293497 could our chance be the coming mother of all finacial crises? something's got to give and soon, lend and pretend will have proven itself futile once again so maybe this will become fertile soil for new libertarian political movements/parties",,Anonymous,1485968102053.jpg,T64KL89oh+sSnd8GRCuTIw==,SI,,1486900759 112293497,112301344,2017-02-12 11:59:23,,,Anonymous,libertarianism.png,XRvmnFFVc/X0e+5nHUoWVA==,CA,,1486900763 112293497,112301461,2017-02-12 12:00:34,">>112300891 Same man",,Anonymous,image.jpg,8rtmYOV059bKMwyZnrmFZw==,FR,,1486900834 112293497,112301671,2017-02-12 12:02:35,">>112301340 I don't know, I'm a bit skeptical of the doomsday is near meme. People have been saying that everyday since the dawn of civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486900955 112293497,112301811,2017-02-12 12:03:44,">>112300356 Animals go off their instincts, just like people. I'm saying that the value system in basically all human societies is very similar (no unjustified killings of in group members, no unjustified stealing from in group members) Even monkeys have a primitive system of ""ethics"" because they seem to understand if they are being treated differently/unfairly https://youtu.be/-KSryJXDpZo I'm saying calling it all relative is not true. You can look at biology and see why basic ethics developed pretty uniformly with the expected variations between diverse groups around the world.",,Anonymous,image.gif,820mCTY2FpWoLaYwlBeB/g==,US,,1486901024 112293497,112301871,2017-02-12 12:04:25,">>112299630 Lefty pol is faggots and cucks",,Anonymous,1486339271205.png,0jmP3PEOQ7NauCFF1Lcrww==,US,,1486901065 112293497,112302180,2017-02-12 12:07:18,,,Anonymous,ZomboMeme 16122016204115.jpg,9gyE1VA8W22fyIFoaV+LHw==,US,,1486901238 112293497,112302350,2017-02-12 12:08:57,">>112301671 '08 GFC shook the entire world, at least the parts that matter, and pretty violenty while the effects endure to this day (greece, spain, italy and many many others) meanwhile, nothing significant has been undertaken to address the core issues; quite the contrary as financial elites doubled down with bailouts and austerity which further exacerbate the problem I hear you on doomsday angle but it is obvious that this time there will be no more room to manouver around the problem since that's already been unsuccessfully tried; as dubya put it: fool me once...",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486901337 112293497,112302352,2017-02-12 12:08:58,">>112293497 pls no privatized roads meme. I still lean libertarian right according to the political compass (although nearly a centrist) What's the difference between libertarian right and left? Less wellfare shit?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486901338 112293497,112302407,2017-02-12 12:09:29,">>112302180 Top kek",,Anonymous,taxation-is-theft-pile.jpg,+jeVJxC4NaH0d6V018c7Mw==,PT,,1486901369 112293497,112302482,2017-02-12 12:10:14,">>112302352 Left libertarians are anarchists that want to destroy the state and implement communism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486901414 112293497,112302528,2017-02-12 12:10:42,">>112302352 roads will soon be deprecated by drones and the opposition will need a new stock meme to fall back on imo lefties are commies in denial",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1486901442 112293497,112302679,2017-02-12 12:12:14,">FREE YOUR MIND said Kruger as he turned the valve >YOUR ASS WILL FOLLOW",,Anonymous,gas what.png,V4olECPNnnKft9uBty26eQ==,HU,,1486901534 112293497,112302684,2017-02-12 12:12:16,">>112301871 these fags call this site a safe Space big they ban you everytime you a racial or economic statistics They are more faggy than tumblr",,Anonymous,image.jpg,E0tdcPYrthIqV0k0m/PTEg==,FR,,1486901536 112293497,112302781,2017-02-12 12:13:16,">>112301249 And there is your problem! You want to expel people and create laws yet have no lawenforcement, Just to be clear here im not for large governments i think the best way to rule the World would be for individuall cities and Towns to make there own laws and rules and enforce them together as a peoples army.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1486901596 112293497,112302888,2017-02-12 12:14:26,">>112302352 there are two people who get called ""left libertarians"" as i know it. Ancoms (retarded communist faggots) and then theres wussy ancaps (see Adam Kokesh) who advocate for open borders and other cuckery.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486901666 112293497,112302932,2017-02-12 12:14:49,>>112302407,,Anonymous,ZomboMeme 02012017180002.jpg,/Nm+NO9kA6fNHQMuqa5uuw==,US,,1486901689 112293497,112302973,2017-02-12 12:15:11,">>112302350 I'm with you on this one. You can only print paper so much. The biggest problem that has been happening since the FED took over is that instead of thinking about recessions as natural purges of incompetent companies and inefficient businesses, high time preference economists and short-sighted politicians (aka Keynes and his intellectual children) consider recessions as doomsday scenarios and ""market failures"" (instead of necessary market purges). So they went out since 1929 and bailed out companies, gave subsidies, printed money, skyrocketed inflation and destroyed any prospects for the future. This combined with the ability to make credit out of thin air by central banks with the Fed's/ECB's backing creates bubbles and traps investments in unworthy enterprises. I fucking hope the next crash is so big that people will just use crypto currencies and tell the banks to fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486901711 112293497,112303110,2017-02-12 12:16:30,">>112302932 I love this. keep memeing you dreamers and creamers Official Hoppe themesong? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JF8oSxXtM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486901790 112293497,112303413,2017-02-12 12:19:16,">>112302781 But under AnCap there would be defense agencies and law enforcement agencies just like it exists now in the form of the state. But instead of being dependent on a monopoly there would be freely financed law enforcement businesses subject to the same market laws as every other business is today. And since security is one of the top priorities of every person these industries would be the first to spring up. Please read The Privatization of Security, it's a short essay/pamphlet and lays out the Hoppe version of law enforcement.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486901956 112293497,112303426,2017-02-12 12:19:23,">>112302352 Left libertarian thinks property is theft Not joking they really believe that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486901963 112293497,112303604,2017-02-12 12:21:08,">>112302973 death of Deutsche Bank when?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486902068 112293497,112303658,2017-02-12 12:21:39,">>112302781 https://mises.org/library/private-production-defense",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1486902099 112293497,112303705,2017-02-12 12:22:08,just realised that my ID is a bretty nice get,,Anonymous,"flat,800x800,070,f.u3.jpg",dVrPXKe0AxLYASzbq9mtDQ==,SI,,1486902128 112293497,112303812,2017-02-12 12:23:00,">>112303604 Soon Deutshbro soon",,Anonymous,1483573317503.gif,j5qxzEQBWWXcxu40U0WTpQ==,PT,,1486902180 112293497,112304820,2017-02-12 12:32:52,bumping with a snek.,,Anonymous,snek (10).png,aXlAl2u5gEzAo6UIS0BxZg==,US,,1486902772 112293497,112306152,2017-02-12 12:46:10,bump,,Anonymous,1485956651535.png,Nrx+cxQCzj86/KroRDrnKQ==,IL,,1486903570 112293497,112306156,2017-02-12 12:46:12,">>112301811 Let's for a minute assume everything you just said is true, how exactly does that justify libertarianism? If anything, it refutes it. Since you're making the claim that we have a biological basis for morality and for forming particular types of societies, yet there has never been a libertarian society. I'll go further and state that every argument for libertarianism is a complex logical construction that certainly did not appear spontaneously from instinct.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486903572 112293497,112306694,2017-02-12 12:50:57,">>112306156 >there has never been a libertarian society",,Anonymous,image.jpg,xQ97HdYcvKqGGiKFg+ldmw==,FR,,1486903857 112293497,112307563,2017-02-12 12:59:04,">>112306694 There hasn't. And America was founded on abstractions (enlightenment ideals) that are historically unique.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486904344 112293497,112308895,2017-02-12 13:11:22,,,Anonymous,1485953105939.jpg,WnHhljWcIZhgLq63GqR1SQ==,IL,,1486905082 112293497,112310398,2017-02-12 13:24:32,">>112293497 >used to think libertarianism was cucked/degenerate >used to think libertarianism allowed subversion of the West via open borders policies >leaned about based Hans-Hermann Hoppe >learned about Hoppean anti-democratic, culturally-conservative, Western-chauvinistic, libertarianism >learned about the right to exclusion leading toward meritocratic, anti-degenerate, hierarchies I'm sorry I used to troll you, bros. Just remember that Hoppe's ideas are the only acceptable form of libertarianism. Also, I'd say that a sort of white nationalist minarchist state, where leaders are chosen from either a pool of meritocratically-selected executives, and/or a traditionalist monarchy, and/or a nationalist bureaucracy; which adheres to the majority of Hoppe's ideas, would likely be the most ideal/realistic form of this government. A state authority will still be somewhat necessary to protect property rights, and promote a cohesive white nationalist cultural standard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann Hoppe exclusion in libertarianism.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1486905872 112293497,112311012,2017-02-12 13:29:37,">>112299630 Commie types aren't creative, that's why they always want to steal shit and beg others for free handouts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486906177 112293497,112312313,2017-02-12 13:41:01,">>112307563 You are really sure ? Libertarianism doesn't always means ancap",,Anonymous,image.jpg,aBZL6t9zS4OHg3eKDhKIOQ==,FR,,1486906861 112293497,112312667,2017-02-12 13:44:12,">>112293497 I've been fortunate enough to read some Nozick. Some of it was quite inspiring, I have to admit. Some great ideas.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1486907052 112293497,112313286,2017-02-12 13:49:32,">>112293529 >friedman Libertarian general is run by an uneducated pleb? He's a socialist and should be remembered as such",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486907372 112293497,112313336,2017-02-12 13:49:55,">>112299473 >>112293497 Reminder to get people to join Anticom. We're going to have to deal with a lot of butthurt commie terrorists in the coming years. https://twitter.com/anticomofficial",,Anonymous,Anticom anti-communist American flag logo emblem.png,DV88svmDRfzukzhu1GD5Jg==,US,,1486907395 112293497,112313396,2017-02-12 13:50:32,">>112293497 Anyone else Libertarian National Socialist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486907432 112293497,112313578,2017-02-12 13:52:06,>>112293497,,Anonymous,commieball.jpg,NyjsKe/UZMX72oDfao//tg==,US,,1486907526 112293497,112313634,2017-02-12 13:52:33,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGphvnjrBJc TACTICAL AMERICANISM FREEDOM BOMB INBOUND",,Anonymous,IMG_4608.jpg,iRmVjHrDhkewoWPY1bWMXA==,US,,1486907553 112293497,112313747,2017-02-12 13:53:37,">>112313396 I take care of my family by any means neccasary. does that make me a Libertarian National Socialist?",,Anonymous,NAMS.png,gHBSJychSk3TT1CCGIYTTg==,US,,1486907617 112293497,112314346,2017-02-12 13:58:34,">>112313396 Me. I feel like it's more applicable to the United States, since we have such a huge area, and we're culturally and racially divided to a rather large degree. We can't really rely on the Feds to enforce out beliefs, because they will end-up being de facto multicultural and egalitarian, due to how there are so many leftists and shitskins allowed to vote. Hoppean libertarianism would allow white nationalist enclaves to form more effectively. Countries in Europe are smaller, and more homogeneous, and they have a lot of cultural relics, so I can understand why they would want a stronger state to preserve their culture. I would want Europe to be the unchanging ""standard"", whereas American Hoppean enclaves would be the more ""liberal"" form of European cultural expatriation.",,Anonymous,libertarian fascism flag.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,US,,1486907914 112293497,112314511,2017-02-12 14:00:12,">>112313396 No such thing If you want nationalism, that isn't mutually exclusive with libertarianism Socialism is nearly antithetical to libertarianism And it's retarded",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486908012 112293497,112314537,2017-02-12 14:00:21,>>112314346,,Anonymous,AnFasces.png,pWaQLQhGrXwbFaG/dEvBfg==,US,,1486908021 112293497,112314788,2017-02-12 14:02:13,">>112313336 We need a anti-com thread",,Anonymous,1486847619968.png,ru1eVLq4tdzEvqF7IXxSvg==,US,,1486908133 112293497,112315413,2017-02-12 14:07:10,">>112310398 Glad you've been /hoppe/-pilled my friend. It's amazing how utterly insane and enlightened at the same time the moment of realization that libertarianism is not morally degenerate always. Also thank you for posting my dank OC quotes.",,Anonymous,1484254722803.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,PT,,1486908430 112323404,112323404,2017-02-12 15:13:38,"PREVIOUS THREAD >>112293497 This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Remember- the NAP does NOT apply to commies >THREAD THEME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - HAMMER OF THE RIGHT EDITION,Anonymous,1485946925894.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,IL,,1486912418 112323404,112323519,2017-02-12 15:14:31,>>112323404,,Anonymous,11181848_896591113733808_7346728373158236495_n.jpg,a6+dhT5ZFc0kDbW2xJkCcw==,SE,,1486912471 112323404,112323552,2017-02-12 15:14:45,,,Anonymous,1485946944615.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,IL,,1486912485 112323404,112323628,2017-02-12 15:15:19,,,Anonymous,1485946964418.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,IL,,1486912519 112323404,112323939,2017-02-12 15:17:54,,,Anonymous,1485953077139.png,fPmjsSemI7Uc+Q1B1hrhTw==,IL,,1486912674 112323404,112324133,2017-02-12 15:19:29,,,Anonymous,1486913833960.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,IL,,1486912769 112323404,112326425,2017-02-12 15:36:10,">>112323404 Thanks for making another thread, greatest ally!",,Anonymous,Veteran.png,v0I4+nH3d32fXkSWnaC3hg==,US,,1486913770 112323404,112326824,2017-02-12 15:39:28,,,Anonymous,1486320877460s.jpg,dABJotSP8/sSvafCeW1eJQ==,US,,1486913968 112323404,112327041,2017-02-12 15:41:14,,,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1486914074 112323404,112327182,2017-02-12 15:42:31,,,Anonymous,1485954248807.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,IL,,1486914151 112323404,112327287,2017-02-12 15:43:15,Why is the american libertarian party so shit?,,Anonymous,13312748_10154740860545400_5548296399238312143_n.jpg,87C3Ap8o/5bCqnL12EYFxQ==,SE,,1486914195 112323404,112327732,2017-02-12 15:46:59,">>112327287 your pic says it all. They have been subverted now they're just low-tax liberals.",,Anonymous,1486913385866.jpg,HFtJskRh5Un3Qlz7m7E/oA==,US,,1486914419 112323404,112328097,2017-02-12 15:49:58,">>112327287 Taken over by the beltway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486914598 112323404,112328524,2017-02-12 15:53:08,">>112323404 >libertarian thread >run by a jew shocking",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486914788 112323404,112329137,2017-02-12 15:57:49,,,Anonymous,1486845553079.jpg,VXmYQL4/r7tcmLZF0hFb/w==,US,,1486915069 112323404,112329316,2017-02-12 15:59:25,">>112328524 He is in Israel The Jews in Israel hate niggers and muslims",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486915165 112323404,112329591,2017-02-12 16:01:50,,,Anonymous,1485900089364.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,BE,,1486915310 112323404,112329606,2017-02-12 16:02:00,,,Anonymous,1485704915338.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,US,,1486915320 112323404,112329978,2017-02-12 16:05:14,,,Anonymous,1486916246298.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,US,,1486915514 112323404,112330264,2017-02-12 16:07:32,,,Anonymous,C3865ZiUYAI5KmN.png,bo8WXPuEthYWaZAiyLL8Jg==,SE,,1486915652 112323404,112330524,2017-02-12 16:09:53,>>112323404,,Anonymous,no step.png,riDXuiW7MKog8Audno6KZQ==,GB,,1486915793 112323404,112330703,2017-02-12 16:11:23,,,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1486915883 112323404,112330718,2017-02-12 16:11:32,">>112323404 Daily reminder.",,Anonymous,same silhouette.jpg,fpVyTT8Y2lN0xdWkiDrX4A==,US,,1486915892 112323404,112330760,2017-02-12 16:11:52,">>112323404 Reminder that ancaps and lolbertarians will be purged on the day of the rope",,Anonymous,acb.jpg,XhtdRCMw6tHn+j76/QZleQ==,US,,1486915912 112323404,112330815,2017-02-12 16:12:21,"Not sure if this post will gain much interest, so here's a cool ring. Can there be such a thing as Populist Libertarianism? Communism, liberalism and fascism all run on variations of ""FUCK those guys, right guys"". Libertarianism on the other hand feels too individualistic to really form strong popular movements. I'm a Neoreactionary myself so while I don't consider myself libertarian per se this is a matter of quite some interest to me.",,Anonymous,4a9270b5263552d5cf4f775a1cf9935c.jpg,cSDKLybLKuYCWvmfg0SjRg==,AT,,1486915941 112323404,112331232,2017-02-12 16:15:54,"You guys realize that most libertarians are just liberals that want more free market policies, right? Look at the supporters of the actual libertarian party here in the USA. I used to call myself a right wing libertarian, but by now I just identify as conservative and don't know why the rest of you don't just join the conservative movement since you're in the minority among other libertarians. For example, the Tea Party is based but not really popular even among the libertarian movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486916154 112323404,112331383,2017-02-12 16:17:15,">>112323404 Is the heli there because you don't get roads?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1486916235 112323404,112331426,2017-02-12 16:17:40,">>112330815 >Can there be such a thing as Populist Libertarianism? >Populism: support for the concerns of ordinary people. Yeah, ordinary people don't want the shit taxed out of them i guess. you can make a populist argument for anything.",,Anonymous,1484505123722.jpg,cn7zYt0hboGsOYZ1jwY0SA==,US,,1486916260 112323404,112331549,2017-02-12 16:18:46,">>112331383 >still being a roadcuck.",,Anonymous,FuckRoads.jpg,+4LQ8TFMp2VIi9yedfZQRQ==,US,,1486916326 112323404,112331955,2017-02-12 16:22:31,">>112331549 nigger.",,Anonymous,nigmobile.jpg,Zr0pwqlxDpwFzoQCjaU1yg==,RO,,1486916551 112323404,112332263,2017-02-12 16:25:01,,,Anonymous,are commies people.png,Nrx+cxQCzj86/KroRDrnKQ==,GB,,1486916701 112323404,112332398,2017-02-12 16:26:11,,,Anonymous,1486847619968.png,ru1eVLq4tdzEvqF7IXxSvg==,US,,1486916771 112323404,112332513,2017-02-12 16:27:15,,,Anonymous,1486919238234.jpg,9gyE1VA8W22fyIFoaV+LHw==,US,,1486916835 112323404,112333663,2017-02-12 16:37:03,">>112328524 Libertarianism is a right wing ideology, both socially and economically. Only difference between us and you statist cucks is that we dont need someone to dominate over us and threaten to kill us if we dont obey.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1486917423 112323404,112334282,2017-02-12 16:42:45,"i'll dump what i have. not really an ancap any longer, but i agree with them more often than not",,Anonymous,ill kill us all if you fuck with me.jpg,MdWFV0kCpb+jeyhBiSL2Qg==,US,,1486917765 112323404,112334348,2017-02-12 16:43:26,">>112333663 This, statism is for followers, libertarianism is for leaders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486917806 112323404,112334358,2017-02-12 16:43:32,,,Anonymous,well spooked my property.png,IWjjR7prjt+KB0J+c9y97g==,US,,1486917812 112323404,112334414,2017-02-12 16:44:04,,,Anonymous,wage slavery is bad!.png,ZlBKMprvO9PeHsbBGVRy7w==,US,,1486917844 112323404,112334538,2017-02-12 16:45:13,,,Anonymous,times up gadsden.png,8n/jBIub++k03MIe30srMg==,US,,1486917913 112323404,112334665,2017-02-12 16:46:21,,,Anonymous,stirner beats marx.jpg,XtRhWhBmq5tzZvZOApSQBA==,US,,1486917981 112323404,112334968,2017-02-12 16:49:16,>>112323404,,Anonymous,1484257993854.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,ES,,1486918156 112323404,112335269,2017-02-12 16:52:01,,,Anonymous,oppressive nature.jpg,1QiPTjw/uzdgYw6pq+YzLA==,US,,1486918321 112323404,112335366,2017-02-12 16:52:43,,,Anonymous,mencken quote 2.jpg,9v0M9Q31RlOzd/8pfXYRpg==,US,,1486918363 112323404,112336524,2017-02-12 17:02:44,,,Anonymous,"caution, no step.jpg",H6I3GxBrS2wmEL+Aaw/LMQ==,GB,,1486918964 112323404,112336918,2017-02-12 17:05:42,">>112323404 Personally I would have a night watchman state, where the governments only job was infrastructure, police and justice system, military, and K-12 education. Military is voluntary and conscription is illegal. Military vets get their insurance paid for and don't pay taxes.All weapons are legal, but there is not mandatory ownership. In K-12 students also learn how to fight a guerilla war, getting training on how to treat wounds, fire weapons, work in a squad, and create IED's. Nuclear bunkers have been built that support the entire population. Government is very localized, more of a confederacy divided along cultural lines than a single united nation. Drugs and prostitution are legalized, but discouraged. Big military spending, militarized police, and nationwide support of the police and military, with strong patriotism and love of liberty installed in school. There would be a limit on taxes, something like a 20% maximum sales tax, I think.",,Anonymous,tactical.jpg,EO0GTVo0J2KaaZmluOV1Mw==,US,,1486919142 112323404,112338146,2017-02-12 17:16:09,">>112336918 I personally am an AnCap, but I think, that Anarcho Capitalism can't be fully accomplished if the whole world isn't joining in, as a single AnCap nation would be viewed as ideological threat and attacked by outside forces. Having a night watchman state for defence is pretty much necessary to prevent foreign intervention.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486919769 112323404,112338224,2017-02-12 17:16:53,,,Anonymous,MajesticShyGreatwhiteshark.webm,1jnhzE8/U9uDnd0qe2Zypg==,US,,1486919813 112323404,112338988,2017-02-12 17:23:15,">>112338146 Well, the other problem with an Ancap nation is that you'll literally have foreign nations just buying territory from your citizens and essentially annexing the land, piece by piece.",,Anonymous,pistol.jpg,fN5PuaHYEL4WhDvqaHgpVg==,US,,1486920195 112323404,112339702,2017-02-12 17:29:06,">>112338988 yep thats right constitution dont cost nuthin now u no we needs an agents to prevent foreigh invasion.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486920546 112323404,112340234,2017-02-12 17:33:08,"I'm not sure if all these ""libertarian turned fascist"" posts are propaganda, or y'all are really so impressionable that you hop on whatever political fad you see. More likely the latter being we're on a website for pedophiles, anime fans, and other losers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486920788 112323404,112340456,2017-02-12 17:34:55,">>112338988 That's what I meant, if there are foreign netions in the play, AnCapism can't be created. It needs to be global. If that isn't the case, national souvereignity needs to be protected by a higher entity, the question is, could this entity be private? Imagine ""citizens"" paying for a ""citizenship subscription"" to live in the privately owned country who in exchange also get protection from outside threats. Effectively it would work akin to a night watchman state, with the only difference being that the payers could stop paying those people and instead choose another entity, offering cheaper/better services. Think of it as applying the free market to border control. If that would be more effective than a government that secures the borders is debateable, but it definetly would reduce the risk of a higher entity abusing its power, because people simply could stop fund it and invest in a better offer.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486920895 112323404,112340568,2017-02-12 17:35:40,,,Anonymous,1468266346468.jpg,Ydq0k/gnE4WHE/UuvKgOyQ==,NL,,1486920940 112323404,112340754,2017-02-12 17:37:09,Is Libertarianism the last remaining uncucked ideology?,,Anonymous,543253252.jpg,JATL4pzdte2yRqdUzBBgWQ==,DE,,1486921029 112323404,112341112,2017-02-12 17:39:59,">>112340754 pretty much. it promotes a stronger person on all levels - emotional, physical and mental. you can't be some weak pussy and be a libertarian. well, you can i suppose because libertarians don't like fucking with other people, but that's usually the big reason why so many disagree with it - it isn't for the weak of mind, body or spirit (define that as however you wish)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486921199 112323404,112341378,2017-02-12 17:42:08,">>112340754 Lot of leftist infiltrators in the libereterian community",,Big Cock D Rok,IMG_20160816_142114.jpg,e9OH6JgvKFPTClnjbhENuQ==,US,,1486921328 112323404,112341577,2017-02-12 17:43:50,">>112340234 Eh, I was kind of on the fascist train for a while, but pretty soon the inconsistencies started to show. Fascism is all about espousing your nation and culture, yet it is also an authoritarian ideology, something which doesn't fit together when your culture is anti-authoritarian. I wanted to make my nation strong, prosperous, and remove the degeneracy plaguing it, but America never had these problems when we were freer. Authoritarianism doesn't lead to a strong people, it leads to a people dependent on the government, all you really need to make your nation prosperous is to give your people the freedom to succeed.",,Anonymous,ancapsnek.jpg,vNPbYnDp8s2qkWqmd3ArjQ==,US,,1486921430 112323404,112341686,2017-02-12 17:44:43,">>112341112 Exactly, libertarianism promotes self sufficency. Weak willed people hate being on there own without their beloved nanny state, that's why I almost hate left ""libertarians"" almost more than full blown stalinists. They preach their agenda of >le fuck the man, fuck cops, down with the government while also relying on their handouts and promoting crypto statism. That's why libertarianism is so hated today, people are weaker than ever, not only phsyically and mentally but also philosophically. Humanity is proone to hypocrisy and arrogance, viewing themselves as intellectually superior, closing their eyes before the truth.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486921483 112323404,112341785,2017-02-12 17:45:26,">>112341112 >>112340754 Well, the Libertarian Party has been cucked pretty hard though",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1486921526 112323404,112342032,2017-02-12 17:47:06,">>112341577 if you're worried about ""degeneracy"" go volunteer at the boys and girls club, faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486921626 112323404,112342060,2017-02-12 17:47:19,">>112340754 As long as it doesn't become some kind of fad people can use as a vehicle to feel like their on the sanctimonious high ground...... Yet unfortunately that seems to be a thing for the Libertarian right atm. Tbh every political ideology has its cucks even Libertarianism. But over all it hasn't stooped to the ranks of Liberalism.",,Anonymous,1486347240296.png,iEGDBNOxLid+MzlX3R7mtQ==,US,,1486921639 112323404,112342135,2017-02-12 17:47:56,">>112342032 Go be a statist somewhere else.",,Anonymous,blackandyellow.jpg,WHL6zilB2v5vtzfhgAiSDA==,US,,1486921676 112323404,112342240,2017-02-12 17:48:39,"DEATH TO ALL COMMIES",,Anonymous,apophis_snek.png,RUCBVGg3+CpL4KEg0DeZ1g==,DE,,1486921719 112323404,112342272,2017-02-12 17:48:51,">>112341785 You mean because of their totally libertarian candidate Gary ""Nazi cakes"" Johnson? The libertarian party has been overrun by contarian Bernie voters who rode the ""both parties are evil"" bandwagon. You can't expect anything of value from them now.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486921731 112323404,112342495,2017-02-12 17:50:40,does anyone have this style pic making fun of antifa? It references something about them being edgy while the establishment and media has their back,,Anonymous,1478634743010.jpg,ve54ZW1OjhwsQit7cUH4Vg==,US,,1486921840 112323404,112342903,2017-02-12 17:53:51,">>112342495 GTFO if ur not contributing like a faggot normie",,Anonymous,1485835768525.jpg,vuiRyDv98DOc4M/08ReLwA==,US,,1486922031 112323404,112344435,2017-02-12 18:06:27,Bump for private death squads,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486922787 112323404,112344512,2017-02-12 18:07:05,">>112338224 Since when do they come with a golden hull?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486922825 112323404,112345522,2017-02-12 18:14:59,"It's the system with the least flaws, I don't get why not more people are supporting this. It's highly efficient and a win-win for most. With all the money that would be made you could even fund some socialistic ideas. The reason it doesn't get much of a hold here is probably because we don't want to kill all foreigners, but decent solutions which actually get us further ahead. Kicking and screaming does not solve anything and only costs money.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1486923299 112323404,112346038,2017-02-12 18:19:01,">>112342272 this. mcaffee should have gotten the nomination, not that douche captcha: select all squares that match the label - helicopter relevant",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486923541 112323404,112346782,2017-02-12 18:24:56,">>112341112 >you can't be some weak pussy and be a libertarian You guys are so cute",,Anonymous,lol ancap meetup.jpg,zrTWcKXaF02jhabaiyJ8pQ==,US,,1486923896 112323404,112347268,2017-02-12 18:28:22,">>112346782 oh boy, cherry picking. and what side are you shilling for, little fella?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486924102 112323404,112347300,2017-02-12 18:28:37,">>112346782 >1 post by this ID",,Anonymous,pol_royal_crest.png,8hZ9oyvvSmLAMXfXzC3JXQ==,US,,1486924117 112323404,112347691,2017-02-12 18:31:30,">>112323404 We need to establish an American city state in the style of Hong Kong or Singapore as a bastion of the free market seperate from the federal welfare state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486924290 112323404,112347925,2017-02-12 18:33:21,>>112323404,,Anonymous,Take A Ride Left Side.png,EBFe+1rW6i6d4E6BRmc0aA==,US,,1486924401 112323404,112348095,2017-02-12 18:34:38,"snek folder dump incoming, collect them while you can.",,Anonymous,snek (1).png,t9v2a9vrXkVG3hw8psjqDQ==,US,,1486924478 112323404,112348099,2017-02-12 18:34:39,"How does libertarianism allow a state to defend yourself with the NAP? How are you going to deal with minorities? Can you be a nationalist libertarian? As in a night watch that protects the country's borders and its demographics. I'm cool with libertarian as long as it's race realist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486924479 112323404,112348144,2017-02-12 18:35:01,,,Anonymous,snek (1).jpg,pz1AlTRxS+ILFG8xjn+G0Q==,US,,1486924501 112323404,112348283,2017-02-12 18:36:10,">>112348099 fuck niggers. is this good enough for you?",,Anonymous,snek (2).png,ZJUzc6WPaHObMTxjZmkz+Q==,US,,1486924570 112323404,112348284,2017-02-12 18:36:11,">>112341378 Leftists are always working to steal the labels of the ideologies opposing them. Just to fuck with peoples head and make arguing against them more confusing. People who want everything banned, restricted and regulated to death are ""liberal "" Communists who want a 1984 style totalitarian mega state are ""anarchists"" Socialist scum who don't have a fucking clue about property rights, the NAP or economics are ""left libertarians"" Don't fall for it kids",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1486924571 112323404,112348318,2017-02-12 18:36:28,,,Anonymous,snek (3).jpg,i5gyLIWDIVneA3yXPg+EkA==,US,,1486924588 112323404,112348396,2017-02-12 18:37:04,">>112340234 There's a very nuanced of understand yet enormously important distinction between Fascism and Hoppe libertarianism: The role of private property and the existence of a state monopolist on violence.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3_00000.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1486924624 112323404,112348444,2017-02-12 18:37:31,,,Anonymous,snek (3).png,HSRhqXOosdCV80w46sJgZQ==,US,,1486924651 112323404,112348583,2017-02-12 18:38:28,,,Anonymous,snek (4).jpg,+zuP9RnnsFEJ/+4cuIbBuA==,US,,1486924708 112323404,112348637,2017-02-12 18:38:56,,,Anonymous,snek (4).png,MJvu4y5+xVqAoM6WQhHWFw==,US,,1486924736 112323404,112348690,2017-02-12 18:39:14,,,Anonymous,snek (5).jpg,h1e+UBNs2R1YINWdOxqVAg==,US,,1486924754 112323404,112348787,2017-02-12 18:39:56,,,Anonymous,snek (5).png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,US,,1486924796 112323404,112348820,2017-02-12 18:40:15,,,Anonymous,snek (6).png,aKNQLrvcdgzTOqyPBff9dQ==,US,,1486924815 112323404,112348893,2017-02-12 18:40:51,,,Anonymous,snek (7).jpg,kOekY48LgWJheLGEsWd9gg==,US,,1486924851 112323404,112348991,2017-02-12 18:41:33,,,Anonymous,snek (8).jpg,YW5CcmPY5zp4+2mqkZ5STw==,US,,1486924893 112323404,112349034,2017-02-12 18:41:57,,,Anonymous,snek (8).png,HHULeUtWGXWzu3SdUfgSLQ==,US,,1486924917 112323404,112349036,2017-02-12 18:41:51,">>112323404 https://www.reddit.com/r/altlibertarian/",,Anonymous,anti-communist action.png,rb+FXZUqKqszrpEObM3AWQ==,CA,,1486924911 112323404,112349105,2017-02-12 18:42:30,,,Anonymous,snek (9).png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1486924950 112323404,112349155,2017-02-12 18:42:50,">>112348893 All hail the snek of liberty and physical removal.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486924970 112323404,112349192,2017-02-12 18:43:12,">>112348396 I'll have to look up Hoppean libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486924992 112323404,112349252,2017-02-12 18:43:44,">>112349036 I dont wanna be a bummer, but alt-Libertarian sounds gay as fuck.",,Anonymous,snek (10).jpg,T64KL89oh+sSnd8GRCuTIw==,US,,1486925024 112323404,112349325,2017-02-12 18:44:22,,,Anonymous,snek (10).png,aXlAl2u5gEzAo6UIS0BxZg==,US,,1486925062 112323404,112349379,2017-02-12 18:44:42,">>112349252 Do you know what else sounds gay as fuck? The sound of a man's penis slamming into another man's anus.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486925082 112323404,112349401,2017-02-12 18:44:50,">>112323628 Based Hoppe.",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann Hoppe exclusion in libertarianism.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1486925090 112323404,112349458,2017-02-12 18:45:21,">>112349379 It's only gay if the balls touch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486925121 112323404,112349536,2017-02-12 18:45:56,">>112347268 >>112347300 Uh oh, someone doesn't like the inconvenient facts that (1) libertarianism is a fringe ideology and (2) it's mostly taken up by internet fags. Your typical liberal Chad would deck you in one, guaranteed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486925156 112323404,112349543,2017-02-12 18:46:00,">>112349458 they will, it's gay as fuck sorry.",,Anonymous,snek (12).png,nADBWJ+GxgLqfIp15rtKKg==,US,,1486925160 112323404,112349571,2017-02-12 18:46:16,Hail Snek!,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1486925176 112323404,112349660,2017-02-12 18:46:57,">>112349543 Leftist open borders libertarianism is idiocy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486925217 112323404,112349711,2017-02-12 18:47:22,,,Anonymous,IMG_0252.jpg,IbgJaE/lqagSeGwUrYPKcA==,US,,1486925242 112323404,112349771,2017-02-12 18:47:48,">>112349536 >libertarianism is a fringe ideology And what are you a mainsteam liberal faggot? >>112349660 yeah.",,Anonymous,snek (13).jpg,WeiEDcQayx0q3aRb3nKD+g==,US,,1486925268 112323404,112349831,2017-02-12 18:48:14,,,Anonymous,snek (13).png,XhIOnn4O+/acQyLiPaPGsQ==,US,,1486925294 112323404,112349871,2017-02-12 18:48:33,">>112323404 I am nat soc nigger >praise kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ",,Anonymous,goldenstar.png,jSSjZqL86TSQilsvG8jGjA==,US,,1486925313 112323404,112349884,2017-02-12 18:48:38,,,Anonymous,snek (14).jpg,Urw/nuRXLYV4CEHcOkvd1g==,US,,1486925318 112323404,112350009,2017-02-12 18:49:33,">>112323404 But who will build the roads",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486925373 112323404,112350052,2017-02-12 18:49:49,">>112323404 So what do we call authoritarian libertarianism? And by that I mean, we defend liberty, violently and proactively, against anyone who poses not just a current active threat, but a potential future threat as well.",,Anonymous,awoo.jpg,fSMaz/i20dgRWGxiW+C7GQ==,US,,1486925389 112323404,112350096,2017-02-12 18:50:07,>>112349871,,Anonymous,snek (15).png,7pxzBOPQMBcE7IN8NsL3ZQ==,US,,1486925407 112323404,112350147,2017-02-12 18:50:28,>>112350009,,Anonymous,AnarcoCanadianism.png,PT7LTE19cU1x/SSnjlrcJA==,US,,1486925428 112323404,112350199,2017-02-12 18:50:53,,,Anonymous,snek (17).png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,US,,1486925453 112323404,112350201,2017-02-12 18:50:55,">>112342032 Degeneracy has a serious negative effect on society. Sexual degeneracy leads to divorce, or refusal to give birth to white babies in the first place. Drug addiction is a disease, and it can damage others around the drug addict. (i.e., drug addict gets high, then tries to drive fast in traffic). People who only care about instant gratification don't plan for the future, and thus tend to waste resources and damage capital.",,Anonymous,Fashwave Evola revolt against the modern world.jpg,LBZHv3EOB2xixb0ESzV9YQ==,US,,1486925455 112323404,112350220,2017-02-12 18:51:07,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz85fnVr27k,,Anonymous,NE LEZ SUKA.jpg,zL0Aqt0QW3S9rMCUaLdtuA==,RU,,1486925467 112323404,112350261,2017-02-12 18:51:24,,,Anonymous,snek (18).png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,US,,1486925484 112323404,112350281,2017-02-12 18:51:32,"Reminder that society will only return to prosperity and have a chance at implementing Libertarianism and true capitalism (the best systems, objectively), when we return to sound money in both the West and, eventually, worldwide.",,Anonymous,gold_bullion.jpg,Eqt84P73X55VRRj9gLATEg==,GB,,1486925492 112323404,112350403,2017-02-12 18:52:33,I'm outta sneks folks ! pls feed me more sneks !,,Anonymous,snek (20).png,f3CVF7R7h6uAaprf2ry5rw==,US,,1486925553 112323404,112350530,2017-02-12 18:53:35,">>112323404 Lmao the fucking kike jew strikes again >using Mi General's trademarked commie-removal technique as your icon >not realizing Mi General's commie-removal technique is FOR AUTHORITARIAN DICKTATOR USE ONLY FUCK OFF WITH YOUR MUH FREEDOMS SHIT YOUR GAYS AND SEXUAL LIBERATION ARENT' WELCOME HERE",,Anonymous,Political Compuss.png,KIqN//ZMacqEP1UqzkKbgA==,CL,,1486925615 112323404,112350668,2017-02-12 18:54:35,">>112327287 They're not libertarians. We learned this through Gary Johnson",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486925675 112323404,112350670,2017-02-12 18:54:35,>>112323404,,Anonymous,TREADED.gif,trpQvlDN8BVRU+FlV87pfQ==,CL,,1486925675 112323404,112351168,2017-02-12 18:58:29,">>112327287 Too many social liberals and globalists in it. I used to not like libertarianism until I learned about Hoppe.",,Anonymous,Han Herman Hoppe reads snake Democracy the God That Failed.png,gGLUgX3jP4xxJx+JqvM6KA==,US,,1486925909 112323404,112351505,2017-02-12 19:01:15,">>112350052 Hoppean Libertarianism He is also a crypto-white nationalist and race realist. He's the guy behind PHYSICAL REMOVAL.",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann Hoppe.jpg,WEPVOBvxt6DDcXn7SFTKHg==,US,,1486926075 112323404,112351797,2017-02-12 19:03:17,,,Anonymous,1485101312084.jpg,qZ/sjPZt+hKZ6xjhucjmhw==,US,,1486926197 112323404,112353233,2017-02-12 19:14:35,"What does Teddy Roosevelt qualify as, and do the libertarians of /pol/ approve of him?",,Anonymous,teddy.jpg,8O8L3TjJ462LxfT3IZLKfg==,US,,1486926875 112323404,112353936,2017-02-12 19:20:06,">>112338224 >those gloriously drawn curves I should just neck myself I can't even do something this simple.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1486927206 112323404,112354274,2017-02-12 19:22:42,">>112353233 He was Progressive. (Which is different from modern ""Progressives"")",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486927362 112323404,112354293,2017-02-12 19:22:53,">>112329606 Best! >>112329591 Second.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486927373 112323404,112354847,2017-02-12 19:26:54,,,Anonymous,1486186775179.png,NHZlurCM1iiAzI+5pkZEAA==,US,,1486927614 112323404,112354878,2017-02-12 19:27:09,">>112354274 Right, but he still didn't really violate the Constitution and was a pro-freedom man, wasn't he?",,Anonymous,plop.png,Zjq+Mk7HUe9mGzYAxzmTwQ==,US,,1486927629 112323404,112354904,2017-02-12 19:27:16,,,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1486927636 112323404,112355186,2017-02-12 19:29:01,"Fuck your freedom Humans by nature need control under strong Government",,Anonymous,1376203-mussolini2.jpg,QPt2SV0VJF1goOp8Lna3Ng==,ME,,1486927741 112323404,112355445,2017-02-12 19:30:55,>>112355186,,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1486927855 112323404,112355556,2017-02-12 19:31:45,">>112350403 Fug :DDDD",,Anonymous,don't dread.jpg,Ol+SWMEUb5fYf+KwpPOm8A==,BR,,1486927905 112323404,112355712,2017-02-12 19:32:57,">>112355556 >55556 Fuck's sake, off by one",,Anonymous,nigga.jpg,H4DfR6S/Cnh3GqTNzlTbqA==,BR,,1486927977 112323404,112355834,2017-02-12 19:33:53,>>112350403,,Anonymous,maw.jpg,W5Vp2jJ2XyAAvS+k9m2xgQ==,US,,1486928033 112323404,112356383,2017-02-12 19:38:20,">>112323404 >/lrg/ kek",,Anonymous,FxUpl6u.png,cqv0fM1xzIGL+1MzYKyi2w==,BR,,1486928300 112323404,112356553,2017-02-12 19:39:40,>>112356383,,Anonymous,1486721794124.png,RlgQ7xFe71SkKa/9Hi3t2A==,US,,1486928380 112323404,112356902,2017-02-12 19:42:23,">>112356383 t. Lula",,Anonymous,commies get out.png,UwEgI5kjnW5UGhN24uroJA==,BR,,1486928543 112323404,112357759,2017-02-12 19:49:13,">>112356383 Hue hue commie",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486928953 112416720,112416720,2017-02-13 05:03:58,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads.",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1486931770762.png,v0I4+nH3d32fXkSWnaC3hg==,BR,,1486962238 113352625,113352625,2017-02-19 10:04:55,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DAY OF THE REMOVAL EDITION,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1487498695 113352625,113352652,2017-02-19 10:05:15,,,Anonymous,GET OUT.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1487498715 113352625,113352684,2017-02-19 10:05:39,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1487498739 113352625,113352922,2017-02-19 10:08:20,"Great thread! What do you guys think about Richard Spencer being /physicallyremoved/ from ISFLC?",,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1487498900 113352625,113353006,2017-02-19 10:09:11,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1487498951 113352625,113353045,2017-02-19 10:09:36,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1487498976 113352625,113353086,2017-02-19 10:09:58,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1487498998 113352625,113353187,2017-02-19 10:11:08,"Also OP start including Hoppe's articles on Lew Rockwell in the Hoppe Reading List: https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/hans-hermann-hoppe/",,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1487499068 113352625,113353206,2017-02-19 10:11:21,">>113352922 wassap homes, I don't hate spencer. but he's kinda a dweeb so i don't care what happens to him.",,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1487499081 113352625,113353213,2017-02-19 10:11:29,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1487499089 113352625,113353247,2017-02-19 10:11:52,,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1487499112 113352625,113353272,2017-02-19 10:12:14,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1487499134 113352625,113353314,2017-02-19 10:12:39,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1487499159 113352625,113353337,2017-02-19 10:12:55,Glad to see Portuganon is still around,,Anonymous,image.jpg,V1xp3a8VkbIuQwL6pVsVbA==,FR,,1487499175 113352625,113353442,2017-02-19 10:14:11,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1487499251 113352625,113353676,2017-02-19 10:16:50,">>113353337 Always eager to spread the Hoppepill",,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1487499410 113352625,113353709,2017-02-19 10:17:10,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1487499430 113352625,113353832,2017-02-19 10:18:36,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1487499516 113352625,113353844,2017-02-19 10:18:45,">>113352625 >lolbertarianism == meme ideology >trying to appeal to edgy /pol/acks with edgy symbol that makes absolutely no sense >Retarded ideology that appeals to individualism uses a totenkopf >Retarded ideology that opposes government authority uses a military peaked cap Fucking lolbertarians are not as bad as leftard cucks but they are trying too hard lately.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487499525 113352625,113353857,2017-02-19 10:18:55,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1487499535 113352625,113353910,2017-02-19 10:19:33,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1487499573 113352625,113353977,2017-02-19 10:20:24,">>113353187 these articles are pretty good. maybe I should add a FAQ with alot of these as references. particularly the forced intergration one seems to be one many need to see.",,Anonymous,Hmmm.png,28cLQpYxKTNPNOr26GXcew==,US,,1487499624 113352625,113354113,2017-02-19 10:22:00,">>113353977 That's a good idea my man. I usually put that FAQ in the Hoppe threads but having direct quotes from him or simply linking articles to answer the questions would be a good start.",,Anonymous,hoppe bae.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,PT,,1487499720 113352625,113354135,2017-02-19 10:22:21,"Liber/pol/ best /pol/ glad you're here lads",,Anonymous,16143017_462589750795755_5785257798569442564_n.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,BR,,1487499741 113352625,113354214,2017-02-19 10:23:17,">>113354135 oh wow that is some dank OC so to speak",,Anonymous,bpap.png,KuqDGVnKr+3cZqBZQqaUnQ==,PT,,1487499797 113352625,113354302,2017-02-19 10:24:16,I hope you're the fashy brazilian that thinks individual soverenty is the ultimate degeneracy. you'll be the first to be removed pseudo-commie.,,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1487499856 113352625,113354328,2017-02-19 10:24:35,,,Anonymous,1486942796086.png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,NL,,1487499875 113352625,113354370,2017-02-19 10:25:07,">>113354214 com certeza, caro amigo",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487499907 113352625,113354437,2017-02-19 10:25:42,">>113354214 falando nisso, aonde esta nosso ouro?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487499942 113352625,113354445,2017-02-19 10:25:52,">>113354302 ment for this queer >>113353844",,Anonymous,snek (7).png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,US,,1487499952 113352625,113354551,2017-02-19 10:27:03,"REMOVE SOCIALISM SMASH ANTIFA DESTROY LEFTIST HAIL ROTHBARD",,Anonymous,fuck leftists fuck communists.png,rAeaNIoN2m/i6FqRPETWXQ==,BR,,1487500023 113352625,113354886,2017-02-19 10:30:50,">>113354437 foi usado para construir o nosso welfare state (que já está em colapso), as infraestruturas, as estradas, etc. E o resto (((desapareceu))). >>113354302 I think he's the Austrian economics one who attended all Mises Brazil seminars.",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1487500250 113352625,113354948,2017-02-19 10:31:25,">>113354551 HAIL HOPPE HAIL SNEK HAIL VICTORY!",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1487500285 113352625,113355297,2017-02-19 10:35:39,">>113354948 ow what the actual fu-- REMOVE THE REMOVE MAN",,Anonymous,hoppa.png,/HVR1HL/6L/T5SjnQRmNuw==,BR,,1487500539 113352625,113355378,2017-02-19 10:36:48,">>113355297 kek I had noticed that too before. If you take time to Google the names of the books he has, they're pretty weird.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487500608 113352625,113355744,2017-02-19 10:40:32,">>113355297 yeah I also own tons of authoritarian regime propaganda, books, records, uniforms and so on. I'm not surprised.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487500832 113352625,113356199,2017-02-19 10:45:39,,,Anonymous,1487200632601.jpg,RS+MRHvQsIjPGJEAyF9LSg==,US,,1487501139 113352625,113356360,2017-02-19 10:47:15,Most comfy threads,,Anonymous,16300245_1248082765260040_8654282369082795678_o.png,TXI7gnpCOTNTwrRt8RGBVw==,NL,,1487501235 113352625,113356469,2017-02-19 10:48:20,>>113356360,,Anonymous,ron paul rifle.png,kVZ3g/KYLdtNYGtV29bL0g==,PT,,1487501300 113352625,113356494,2017-02-19 10:48:35,">>113355744 /his/fag here, what you got friendo?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487501315 113352625,113357463,2017-02-19 10:58:18,">>113356494 well my brother gets me nazi stuff every year for my birthday, I've got some daggers, handlesticks ect most of an Allgemeine officer uniform, 3 records of songs marches and speeches. and a massive collection of axis powers flags as well and a bunch of confederate gear (not really fitting in with the rest, its just cool racist stuff.",,Anonymous,My_Evolution.jpg,1RCbP0/8BO5ZBtY5cMODSw==,US,,1487501898 113352625,113357623,2017-02-19 11:00:02,"Ancap here. Praise Kek.",,Anonymous,bhg941ff736x.jpg,esObuX++X2Lyr/Q1weQGMw==,BR,,1487502002 113352625,113357830,2017-02-19 11:01:57,">>113357623 our ranks grow eae viado",,Anonymous,1484078517802.jpg,ZNZVF4zbiLA4Qe2A9/mamw==,BR,,1487502117 113352625,113357917,2017-02-19 11:02:51,">>113357463 filename, kek",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487502171 113352625,113357940,2017-02-19 11:03:10,">>113357623 Praise snek",,Anonymous,times_up_gadsden.png,8n/jBIub++k03MIe30srMg==,US,,1487502190 113352625,113358057,2017-02-19 11:04:11,What twitter presence do we have?,,Anonymous,16711831_1255199177881732_7460223282888772570_n.png,i4LchqiKjKH+N+awxvRPmw==,NL,,1487502251 113352625,113358111,2017-02-19 11:04:47,"/POL/ fuck this shit of National socialism",,Anonymous,1487068116065.png,cFhgGumYcxx16TfYMHhh6w==,BR,,1487502287 113352625,113358228,2017-02-19 11:05:55,">>113353939 >>113353939 shameless shilling",,Anonymous,hoppean sponge.jpg,9bisgu6gZaA5JJfbZ8nymg==,FR,,1487502355 113352625,113358620,2017-02-19 11:10:07,>>113357623,,Anonymous,NwaajGm.png,FxtPMM/PTHU8P0D9WgvqIA==,BR,,1487502607 113352625,113359137,2017-02-19 11:15:10,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq4ObDNCCxc AYNCRAPS ETERNALLY BTFO AND ON SUICIDE WATCH",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487502910 113352625,113359194,2017-02-19 11:15:49,">>113358228 >quints in ID w-what does that mean",,Anonymous,JUST 2.png,KUz5FX3xPORKFuqTDMWJxg==,FR,,1487502949 113352625,113359273,2017-02-19 11:16:27,">>113359137 >Ayn Rand >enjoyed by Hoppe or Rothbard WEW L A D",,Anonymous,1481345117795.jpg,LcAfXJeo1nU/GmuXmYRJrw==,PT,,1487502987 113352625,113359375,2017-02-19 11:17:30,">>113352625 >libertarian >right Choose less than two",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487503050 113352625,113359402,2017-02-19 11:17:42,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,1s3FPAifERSdVjv6vJXCLA==,FR,,1487503062 113352625,113359633,2017-02-19 11:19:48,">>113359273 >implying ayn rand isn't a lolbertarian >unironically proving the ""scratch a libertarian and a fascist bleeds"" phrase with that picture WEW LAD",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487503188 113352625,113359679,2017-02-19 11:20:13,">>113359375 hello new friend",,Anonymous,five stages of redpill.png,kiyb9JLRMDKMdJSJxEgV3w==,PT,,1487503213 113352625,113359699,2017-02-19 11:20:27,">>113359375 It's like you aren't forced to throw commies out of helis. You do it just because you like. And there's nothing wrong with it, amirite?",,Anonymous,makeshift turret.jpg,/mUUk0zjYV3k3KkzfWDrNg==,RU,,1487503227 113352625,113359809,2017-02-19 11:21:38,">>113359679 There's no pill after traditionalism and your meme is shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487503298 113352625,113360143,2017-02-19 11:25:01,">>113359809 Nice argument faggot.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487503501 113352625,113360199,2017-02-19 11:25:33,">>113359679 Lad you forgot >stage 6 - Communism >stage 7 - Anarcho communism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487503533 113352625,113360316,2017-02-19 11:26:44,">>113360199 physically remove yourself pls",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487503604 113352625,113360421,2017-02-19 11:27:41,>>113360199,,Anonymous,heli idle.jpg,wS9YpzkZk92EN3C+YDcuJQ==,RU,,1487503661 113352625,113360469,2017-02-19 11:28:12,">>113358228 >>113358228 Hoppe is a fag and if anybody came for me with violence (this includes fascists posing as ""pseudolibertarian"" when they really aren't libertarian, they are libertine fascists, all for them, none for anyone else eh? Sounds oligarchical and kleptocratic to me, the right wing fucking tankie calling ME a tankie???!!) I got something waiting for them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487503692 113352625,113360508,2017-02-19 11:28:33,">>113360199 >USER WAS PHYSICALLY REMOVED FOR THIS POST",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487503713 113352625,113360595,2017-02-19 11:29:18,">>113352625 A true America will be one with a free market Libertarians welcome here Official /pol Discord: https://discord.gg/swp3YFF",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487503758 113352625,113360611,2017-02-19 11:29:27,">>113360316 >>113360421 >>113360508 Scratch a lolbertarian and a fascist bleeds :^) I thought you guys liked freedom?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487503767 113352625,113360651,2017-02-19 11:29:53,">>113360469 >>113360611 >what is memeing",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487503793 113352625,113360748,2017-02-19 11:30:40,">>113360469 are you a communist? >no you are safe :) >yes stop step on snek",,Anonymous,snek.jpg,JgU0AXmRyb6JBGwqILKvQg==,FR,,1487503840 113352625,113360761,2017-02-19 11:30:47,">>113360595 frig off ((discord)) dataminer shill >>113360611 I thought you guys are natsoc LARPers here?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1487503847 113352625,113360770,2017-02-19 11:30:50,">>113360595 >mfw someone said they jerk off to black girls but felt ashamed by it >mfw someone said they had autism HAHAHAHAH LIKE FUCKING POTTERY I have more examples but I saw them on a thread that has probably ended by now",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487503850 113352625,113360858,2017-02-19 11:31:39,">>113360770 I think you replied to the wrong guy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487503899 113352625,113360887,2017-02-19 11:32:04,">>113360651 >what is meeming Some of you are uniuronic see stefan 'the time for arguments has ended' molymeme *collectivizes you* he nothing personal kid",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487503924 113352625,113360933,2017-02-19 11:32:28,">>113360858 No it was what was unironically posted in the discord",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487503948 113352625,113361064,2017-02-19 11:33:43,">>113360887 > teleports behind you > magdumps his full giggle AR-15 Nah, amateur.",,Anonymous,snek.gif,TNnOooIRci0isv8g+L+keA==,RU,,1487504023 113352625,113361216,2017-02-19 11:35:20,">>113360887 communists are unironically enemy of civilization",,Anonymous,snek 4.jpg,hLfdtYKP6TQXBSBP7ayk3g==,FR,,1487504120 113352625,113361537,2017-02-19 11:38:31,You guys do realize that libertarianism is just as autistic as communism right?,,Anonymous,Abby Lee Brazil 01 01.jpg,eTqQbYbnboXWzflRaf9Gaw==,US,,1487504311 113352625,113361828,2017-02-19 11:41:32,,,Anonymous,They Treaded On Me.jpg,N8G5G26PzAzxsPccZxHpXw==,US,,1487504492 113352625,113361844,2017-02-19 11:41:40,">>113361064 stop watching monster girl anime",,Anonymous,varg-vikernes.jpg,TFRw0T7Dt13kmImSGqrkSQ==,GB,,1487504500 113352625,113361913,2017-02-19 11:42:30,">>113361844 Stop being a libertarian.",,Anonymous,Abby Lee Brazil 01 02.jpg,KEQxsEX7X8IiRsOVR2CYRw==,US,,1487504550 113352625,113361947,2017-02-19 11:42:51,">>113361913 >",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487504571 113352625,113361953,2017-02-19 11:42:57,">>113361537 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487504577 113352625,113361990,2017-02-19 11:43:16,">>113361537 >>113361828 >>113361913 I bet your ideology isn't less autistic. >>113361844 > implying I ever did",,Anonymous,haruhi shrug_a.png,YA6QjHnZmACO5x7xCQrQMA==,RU,,1487504596 113352625,113362110,2017-02-19 11:44:24,"implying the fascism this board preaches is any better than communism How about not be extremist at all",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1487504664 113352625,113362119,2017-02-19 11:44:30,">>113361990 >I bet your ideology isn't less autistic. You sure about that? You queers aren't setting the bar really high.",,Anonymous,Abby Lee Brazil 01 03.jpg,ayLaxws2Jn8jYtyNCfPWdQ==,US,,1487504670 113352625,113362149,2017-02-19 11:44:42,">>113352625 >skull and snake as a symbol",,Anonymous,8ubGFLt.gif,56blJCpL2BQdcifDizL2hA==,US,,1487504682 113352625,113362282,2017-02-19 11:46:00,">>113362149 You have the ideology of a 14 year old, what did you expect?",,Anonymous,Abby Lee Brazil 01 04.jpg,aIwFizHszaPxeqWtRIY7Rg==,US,,1487504760 113352625,113362365,2017-02-19 11:46:47,">>113362119 C'mon, name your ideology. I'll keep feeding ya for some time because I'm bored as hell.",,Anonymous,universal medicine.jpg,TEQ4yLPxgLMDQ7XIhQBR/g==,RU,,1487504807 113352625,113362368,2017-02-19 11:46:50,">>113361537 They'll realise that when they realise ""Freedom"" means freedom for big business and liberals as well The non-rich would have the least freedom with all the toll roads, extortionate insurance, contracts etc.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487504810 113352625,113362376,2017-02-19 11:46:53,">>113361537 >everyone is autistic but me. do you want me to dump my ""fashy"" folder you homo? why don't you go listen to some fashwave",,Anonymous,fashcore.png,TP0/yy7h/qh3DPFzv9WsdQ==,US,,1487504813 113352625,113362501,2017-02-19 11:48:11,"Tribalism and identity politics are human nature. Stop fighting them, it's useless.",,Anonymous,Tribalism.jpg,E4WkC8Tr+Hwgr9cKBpq/Ig==,IE,,1487504891 113352625,113362508,2017-02-19 11:48:13,"I'm a classical liberal myself, can I be part of the group :3 ?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487504893 113352625,113362577,2017-02-19 11:48:54,">>113362376 >Dr. Churchill, I'm B.U.F.",,Anonymous,"dr. churchill, i'm BUF.jpg",b1OApC1baHzGG+T3uEZ9nQ==,PT,,1487504934 113352625,113362629,2017-02-19 11:49:21,">>113362508 Come right in.",,Anonymous,dont tread on nades.png,91GMGF0M72CjO9hDu2xpdw==,RU,,1487504961 113352625,113362646,2017-02-19 11:49:30,">>113362508 If you refer to 19th Century Liberalism then yes.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487504970 113352625,113362694,2017-02-19 11:50:02,">>113352625 What is this meme with authoritarian libertarianism?",,Anonymous,1487021113418.gif,zr7j8gqmmb0ugFb/OJ/8rg==,SE,,1487505002 113352625,113362695,2017-02-19 11:50:02,">>113362646 yep, lockean tradition",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487505002 113352625,113362702,2017-02-19 11:50:04,"Does anyone have the libertarian shaking hands with a natsoc/fascist? Something along the lines of ""we disagree on some things but are still great allies""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487505004 113352625,113362719,2017-02-19 11:50:13,">>113362508 you're acceptable, I don't fully agree with you but i don't think anyone will be removing you any time soon.",,Anonymous,1486919238234.jpg,9gyE1VA8W22fyIFoaV+LHw==,US,,1487505013 113352625,113362795,2017-02-19 11:50:53,">>113362365 Edgy. >>113362368 Apparently not if they keep making these threads. >>113362376 >everyone is autistic but me. Never said mine wasn't autistic but me having autistic views doesn't mean that yours aren't.",,Anonymous,Abby Lee Brazil 01 05.jpg,V3luaeZHi0unL9mXG0O8Jg==,US,,1487505053 113352625,113362857,2017-02-19 11:51:21,>>113362702,,Anonymous,1487522968095.png,3ldWWfoSbpbxjOAWhRyRTQ==,PT,,1487505081 113352625,113362868,2017-02-19 11:51:27,">>113362508 You can have a goddamn Maoist ""utopia"" for all I care, just not on my goddamn lawn Also I'll happily export you and your crew some kalashnikovs if we can strike a deal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487505087 113352625,113362880,2017-02-19 11:51:31,">>113362694 Authoritarian in so far as the man to be authority of himself and not law or government unless there are suppressions of man's authority of which government must solve by law. Authoritarian not in the sense that it is traditionally connected with fascism.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487505091 113352625,113362925,2017-02-19 11:51:55,>>113362694,,Anonymous,snek (10).png,aXlAl2u5gEzAo6UIS0BxZg==,US,,1487505115 113352625,113362934,2017-02-19 11:52:03,">>113362857 Thanks, this helps, but the one I'm thinking off was much more elaborate Either way I appreciate it, saved",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487505123 113352625,113363060,2017-02-19 11:53:03,">>113362694 Do not confuse authority with power Sven.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487505183 113352625,113363084,2017-02-19 11:53:15,"This is a /comfy/ thread Praise Snek",,Anonymous,snek5.png,+ZWJfvrlzgzTlvIJO72PHg==,BR,,1487505195 113352625,113363136,2017-02-19 11:53:42,">>113362795 > 9000 posts by this ID > still zero arguments Would you ask me how did I understood that you're a kike?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1487505222 113352625,113363155,2017-02-19 11:53:50,">>113362702 I have much /merger/ art. nazis/libertarians will have to segregate to not have war when commies are removed but i think there is possibility to work together.",,Anonymous,1486689016811.png,YVYe41zNT07hfgKQEznsYg==,US,,1487505230 113352625,113363190,2017-02-19 11:54:05,,,Anonymous,Dead Snake.jpg,Jf++cAf0LCCYTHNEKVKO0g==,US,,1487505245 113352625,113363232,2017-02-19 11:54:27,>>113363155,,Anonymous,Pol (2).png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1487505267 113352625,113363235,2017-02-19 11:54:30,">>113362868 well that's actually my qualm with libertarians, i don't really believe in private security",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487505270 113352625,113363324,2017-02-19 11:55:17,>>113363190,,Anonymous,1486946033965.jpg,W5Vp2jJ2XyAAvS+k9m2xgQ==,BR,,1487505317 113352625,113363337,2017-02-19 11:55:21,">>113363136 >9000 posts by this ID >Libertarians can't count. Not surprised.",,Anonymous,Abby Lee Brazil 01 06.jpg,b2bVd1IyPpIhC0elHIBHow==,US,,1487505321 113352625,113363427,2017-02-19 11:56:11,,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487505371 113352625,113363467,2017-02-19 11:56:30,">>113363337 Not my fault that dollchan can't into postcount and highlighting. And yeah, not an argument.",,Anonymous,arguing 101.png,fcMKvlflE80c6cJES0IRSw==,RU,,1487505390 113352625,113363573,2017-02-19 11:57:30,">>113363155 Fascists are excellent trade allies, they build up their industry quickly and efficiently and tend to have few regulations on ""economical"" commodities like metals, agriculture, energy. Also they're easy to associate with because their ideology doesn't clash with us economically, and where it does clash socially matters a lot less due to our sovereign states",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487505450 113352625,113363719,2017-02-19 11:58:33,">>113363467 How did you disprove me if I haven't had an argument?",,Anonymous,Dead Snake 2.jpg,HK8JWQW5qu+KW9hj7sGL8g==,US,,1487505513 113352625,113363720,2017-02-19 11:58:34,Bumporino,,Anonymous,,,US,,1487505514 113352625,113363762,2017-02-19 11:59:00,">>113363427 I read that shit. I think it's wrong because it has a fundamental flaw. Whoever is the stick beare created to protect us for a long enough time eventually becomes the villain. Therefore why I think it's healthy that we should establish a form of power transition, because the market itself can promote monopolies on it (and it can do so with militray power).",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487505540 113352625,113363825,2017-02-19 11:59:29,">>113363719 > I haven't had an argument? Yes you didn't. Yet you still shitpost here pretending to have an opinion.",,Anonymous,laughs microscopically.jpg,fUfhGSGC61srJ6bfMAUbcA==,RU,,1487505569 113352625,113363882,2017-02-19 12:00:06,>>113363573,,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,US,,1487505606 113352625,113363894,2017-02-19 12:00:11,">>113363573 this. There's no difference between libertarianism and fascism that can't be solved by just not trying to assert authority over each other. On the other hand, communism directly calls for the destruction of both ideologies",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487505611 113352625,113363985,2017-02-19 12:00:56,>>113363894,,Anonymous,Join_or_die.png,s0DfvflAbVbQ/f9qsQw/eQ==,US,,1487505656 113352625,113364027,2017-02-19 12:01:19,">>113363573 Fascists also got there shit pushed in by communist with little effort.",,Anonymous,Nazi Remains.jpg,KpL4LK69zpetWcjk8woFug==,US,,1487505679 113352625,113364030,2017-02-19 12:01:20,>>113363985,,Anonymous,killcommies.png,OuDRtlyA/LdtiaK7/qtqiw==,US,,1487505680 113352625,113364050,2017-02-19 12:01:30,">>113363894 What happens when the said branch of fascism is bent on expanding itself like in the case of Nazi Germany",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487505690 113352625,113364143,2017-02-19 12:02:24,"http://www.thelibertyconservative.com/trumps-america-land-opportunity-crafty-libertarians/ These are exciting times, my friends!",,Anonymous,rothbard-rushmore.jpg,0pRcSVADMo6UzuM43r8K4A==,US,,1487505744 113352625,113364146,2017-02-19 12:02:28,">>113364027 > natsoc > fascism You got some things wrong m8, I believe.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1487505748 113352625,113364211,2017-02-19 12:03:01,how does freer capitalism fix the problems and contradictions of capitalism?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487505781 113352625,113364229,2017-02-19 12:03:11,">>113364027 Go bait somewhere else lefty/pol/. And take your 5/10 pornstar with you.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1487505791 113352625,113364286,2017-02-19 12:03:35,">>113364146 Explain how national socialism in the case of germany wasn't fascist This should be fun!",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487505815 113352625,113364314,2017-02-19 12:03:49,">>113364143 > Putin Anyone but libertarian.",,Anonymous,NOPE.jpg,jNBEuRunhklp6a9f0XSPmg==,RU,,1487505829 113352625,113364329,2017-02-19 12:03:58,">>113364050 They fail just like in WW2, I have sympathies with facsists, but hitler was economically retarded by his own admission. they failed because the blitzkreig wasn't affordable long term.",,Anonymous,AnFasces.png,nPDb0IVenvjAIRPrymjXTw==,US,,1487505838 113352625,113364376,2017-02-19 12:04:25,">>113363894 >communism directly calls for the destruction of both ideologies They did a pretty good job at it too.",,Anonymous,Nazi Remains 2.jpg,PyxBtczI5MiuzjgHutyu3g==,US,,1487505865 113352625,113364430,2017-02-19 12:04:54,">>113364329 Even if he hadn't been retarded, the combined might of Allied forces was easily way too much in the long run.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487505894 113352625,113364461,2017-02-19 12:05:08,">>113364211 any halp?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487505908 113352625,113364481,2017-02-19 12:05:18,">>113364050 physically remove them until their system collapses from being designed around constant outward growth but not being able to achieve it",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487505918 113352625,113364585,2017-02-19 12:06:17,">Freedom to suck off dogs >Freedom for hard drugs >Freedom for homosex and transexual rights >freedom to race mix, abortions >Freedom for environmental destruction >Freedom for Commies and Liberals >Freedom for national monuments war graves,national parks to all collapse and be forgotten >Freedom for big banks and media companies >Freedom to more easily control the economy >Freedom for cheap overseas workers >Freedom for a shit army/navy/airforce >Freedom to base your entire nation on yourself and keeping that extra shekel cause fuck my neighbor Libertarians,Ancap/Socialists,Commies Two sides of the same coin",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487505977 113352625,113364601,2017-02-19 12:06:25,">>113364143 >Trump >Putin ??",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487505985 113352625,113364643,2017-02-19 12:06:43,>>113364376,,Anonymous,commie pwned.gif,bJHArtDj5T2LBEistpmLnA==,RU,,1487506003 113352625,113364686,2017-02-19 12:07:00,">>113363573 >>113364329 >>113353939 >>113353939 As we are ""debating"" here, i think fascists and liberals can find a common ground and build a national capitalist state, then, as the people get less and less degenerate, we can establish a minarchy, that would filter the spawning degenerates via modern darwinism",,Anonymous,snek class.png,D4TKspKk2ftU5dUjFOPKsA==,FR,,1487506020 113352625,113364721,2017-02-19 12:07:16,">>113364314 He is furthering the cause, a means to an end",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487506036 113352625,113364759,2017-02-19 12:07:27,">>113364585 Read, dipshit: >>113352922",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1487506047 113352625,113364862,2017-02-19 12:08:15,">>113364050 the fascists can conquer Africa like Mussolini planned too, why would they conquer a trade partner.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487506095 113352625,113364940,2017-02-19 12:08:56,">>113364585 ah yes, the ""who will stop me from sucking dicks?"" argument. >>113364759 Don't bother with him, he is hellbent on sucking dog dicks and will never read any peice of libertarian literature.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487506136 113352625,113364970,2017-02-19 12:09:12,">>113364862 >why would they conquer a trade partner. why trade when you could conquer the power dummy",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487506152 113352625,113365004,2017-02-19 12:09:35,">>113364146 >You got some things wrong m8, I believe. You sure about that? >>113364229 >Go bait somewhere else lefty/pol/. Not part of lefty/pol/. >And take your 5/10 pornstar with you. She's cute and you know it. >>113364643 >Communist gets punched. >Fascist get rekt. Pic Related.",,Anonymous,Nazi Remains 3.jpg,/vVrDijUlirLQwg2Jf5uiA==,US,,1487506175 113352625,113365214,2017-02-19 12:11:05,">>113365004 >GET",,Anonymous,GETAJOB.png,Kdwy73hVNYlA5+WRs9IZzQ==,US,,1487506265 113352625,113365267,2017-02-19 12:11:29,">>113364027 Yeah um, no. If the US hadn't been tricked into saving kikes it would have been a different outcome. Commies didn't do shit without the help of the allies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487506289 113352625,113365275,2017-02-19 12:11:32,">>113364585 Mmmmm sure because none of that happens in current statist conditions right? :^) Go read a fucking book about human history and the de-civilizing effects that post WWI governments have had on the West and on traditional values. Stupid cunt.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487506292 113352625,113365281,2017-02-19 12:11:36,">>113365004 > Not part of lefty/pol/. I bet my left nut you are. Get in the helicopter, I don't like wasting fuel.",,Anonymous,goml.jpg,AVtS69dJA1gDsDgOUfJ/yg==,RU,,1487506296 113352625,113365382,2017-02-19 12:12:31,">>113364970 because paying someone is better for the economy than getting shot",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487506351 113352625,113365474,2017-02-19 12:13:22,">>113365382 Tell that to all the trade partners of Europe that have slaughtered themselves since dawn of time.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487506402 113352625,113365490,2017-02-19 12:13:27,">>113364970 If you conquer them you just get the natural rescources, realistically you're probably going to have to destroy all the infrastructure on the land to conquer it, and that really doesn't benefit them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487506407 113352625,113365577,2017-02-19 12:14:06,">>113361537 Disgusting slut",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487506446 113352625,113365620,2017-02-19 12:14:28,">>113364759 >>113364940 Well who will? When the media is still in control? Or are you telling me taxes caused Miley Cyrus and others to make twerking a thing? You still serve the interest of huge corporations. Still two sides of the same coin, putting a few extra shekles and the right to fuck men and horses above your entire nation and race. The United states of America was a mistake for the entire world",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487506468 113352625,113365652,2017-02-19 12:14:49,>>113365004,,Anonymous,image.jpg,E8dJUDYsXPeaERod+7XaYA==,FR,,1487506489 113352625,113365675,2017-02-19 12:15:03,">>113365004 gas yourself fag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487506503 113352625,113365701,2017-02-19 12:15:16,">>113365214 A",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487506516 113352625,113365913,2017-02-19 12:17:04,">>113365620 Wanna fuck dogs? Well shit, you can get a harem of them! But keep doing that shit in your fucking basement. The minute you force (And under that I mean show or talk about) it upon anyone else is the moment you get physically removed without notice.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1487506624 113352625,113366205,2017-02-19 12:19:20,https://mises.org/blog/democracy-god-thats-failing,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1487506760 113352625,113366207,2017-02-19 12:19:21,">>113365620 >how could I possibly not fuck animals without the government telling me it's wrong? this is the type of nazi I support physically removing",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487506761 113352625,113366279,2017-02-19 12:19:59,">>113365004 >>113365214 >>113365701 JOB",,Anonymous,92 percent of antifas and other left wing activists live with their parents and one third is unemployed.png,S4C5L6qoKDMyZQwTKJyIHA==,BR,,1487506799 113352625,113366420,2017-02-19 12:21:06,">>113365913 And who's right is that to kill someone over their opinion? That's statist talk there they never hurt you they stated their opinion and with the backing of the local Jewish group have started up a dog training and fucking school for the local poor who can't afford a good education. le violate the nap to kill degenerates meme. Oh hang on all that freedom and no degeneracy is counter productive It's funny how your actually fine with someone having a harem of dogs to fuck in their basements, shows how fucking degenerate you fucks are. You are literally fine with someone having 30 dogs in the hours and sucking them all off day after day.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487506866 113352625,113366514,2017-02-19 12:21:54,">>113365913 This. I don't understand these people saying ""durr you could fug dogs and children in Ancapsnekistan!"" I mean.... Does that not happen now?! And it happens even more so because big ol' daddy The State is there to provide these degenerates with means of economic sustenance in order for them to keep their degenerate ways. All you faggots saying ancapism is degenerate need to seriously start realizing the correlation between state growth, fiat currency, fiat property and the degeneration of moral (traditional) standards of living; the abandoning of monarchical or feudal aristocratic (patrician) lifestyles for egalitarian (democratic) plebeian rule. Wake the fuck up.",,Anonymous,1442573-1-L.jpg,fJMtJTyGra7V1csilpZc+A==,PT,,1487506914 113352625,113366721,2017-02-19 12:23:43,">>113366420 Communism doesn't respect individuals right and cannot coexist. Also nice strawman. If someone fuck dogs in his basement he would be ostracised by the community, hence it's discouraged by a moral code",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1487507023 113352625,113367023,2017-02-19 12:26:08,">>113365214 Have a job. Never said I was a communist. >>113365267 Hitler getting his shit pushed in when he marched on Russia during the winter had nothing to do with Americans. >>113365281 >I bet my left nut you are. You really don't have any nuts to bet. >Get in the helicopter, I don't like wasting fuel. >Has to use a helicopter because he doesn't have any roads. >>113365577 >Disgusting slut Prettiest thing to come out of your country. >>113365675 >gas yourself fag Of course I would have to do it myself because your to weak make me. >>113366279 >Berlin protesters. Holy shit dude, your fucking stupid. Alos, >Brazilian posting on /pol/. You definitely don't have a job, try not to get shot by an off duty officer.",,Anonymous,Nazi Remains 4.jpg,nHFCu7tygyWug7hqyNj+LA==,US,,1487507168 113352625,113367044,2017-02-19 12:26:17,">>113366420 read >>113353314 >>113353442 >>113353676 >>113353857 Why don't you actually take some time to read what anarcho-capitalists like Hoppe have to say instead of sperging out?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487507177 113352625,113367179,2017-02-19 12:27:32,">>113367023 It's funny because 5 soviets died for every German in WW2 It was so rare you even took pics when it happened",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487507252 113352625,113367234,2017-02-19 12:28:05,">>113367023 > You really don't have any nuts to bet. At least it's not a pussy > Has to use a helicopter > implying it's not the most patrician transport imaginable",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1487507285 113352625,113367313,2017-02-19 12:28:36,">>113367023 >I am not a communist! I am a marxist leninist! That is a trigger word!",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487507316 113352625,113367463,2017-02-19 12:29:57,">>113367313 This.",,Anonymous,Notice.png,uF3EzeyPesuNNCkUV0InEA==,US,,1487507397 113352625,113367600,2017-02-19 12:31:11,">>113366721 Not if he has money or the backing or a certain (((people))). I'm sure all those Jews in the US and Israel,China Russia are not going to influence your nation at all. And if people aren't ostracized for being transsexual, leftists now it's only going to get worse in your society. >>113367044 If someone disagrees with you or even slightly likes the wrong political opinion shoot them in the fucking head. Sounding a bit commie there mate. Just say these words truthfully and I'll fuck off >I am fine with someones right to bestiality >I am fine with someones rights to hard drugs >I am fine with someone raising their kid to be a transsexual or rise them in such a way they turn out to be trans >I do not care if my neighbor fucks horses >I am fine with my neighbors rights to race mix >I do not want to pay any tax to the upkeep of national,monuments and other places of cultural importance",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487507471 113352625,113368108,2017-02-19 12:35:10,">>113367600 Fuck off with your strawman, cunt. If the community deems it acceptable, let it be. But expect other communities to chimp out if they try to push this shit for them.",,Anonymous,auss.jpg,WeTTs0I+Ec8HTLc0i1UJcQ==,RU,,1487507710 113352625,113368119,2017-02-19 12:35:16,">>113367179 >Implying I care about how many soviets died. 1 American died for every 10 Nazis. >>113367234 Rather be a woman then a eunuch. >>113367313 Nope, I'm an American who believes in democracy.",,Anonymous,'Merika.gif,TlifDIs383TI6R/JAmmQVQ==,US,,1487507716 113352625,113368160,2017-02-19 12:35:39,">>113365275 any reading suggestion?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1487507739 113352625,113368366,2017-02-19 12:37:18,">>113368119 So you're genderfluid then? Good for you. Now >>>/lgbt/, you legit faggot.",,Anonymous,genderfluid.png,FX0orm8g0Tf6vfuKjPpWiQ==,RU,,1487507838 113352625,113368391,2017-02-19 12:37:30,">>113368119 You commie antifas are all the same, you cannot win a battle unless you outnumber them 5 to 1, and sometimes you still lose 40 to 1 because some white supremacist stabbed you.",,Anonymous,antifa bleeding compilation.jpg,ifoRcGpDj/OUSDD82mImYw==,BR,,1487507850 113352625,113368563,2017-02-19 12:39:06,,,Anonymous,1487019509919.jpg,LAuN/K4j9tQ6miPnjgNaQQ==,NL,,1487507946 113352625,113368608,2017-02-19 12:39:28,,,Anonymous,1487017568386.png,GUBaE9K7mo/gn+aZReUi5Q==,NL,,1487507968 113352625,113368661,2017-02-19 12:39:52,,,Anonymous,1487020918278.jpg,QwNiAXlZp/38/+m924eabw==,NL,,1487507992 113352625,113368722,2017-02-19 12:40:19,,,Anonymous,1487015696629.jpg,FOoro3CmmpOWf2bmrqmSpg==,NL,,1487508019 113352625,113368746,2017-02-19 12:40:33,">>113368108 Okay can you post these words exactly and say you are 100% fine with that persons right to it. I'll go away then I am fine with someones right to bestiality I am fine with someones rights to hard drugs I am fine with my neighbors rights to race mix I am fine with my neighbors rights to do the absolute most degenerate shit possible as long as no nap violation etc. I am fine if someone does not want to pay any tax to the upkeep of national,monuments and other places of cultural importance which would collapse with them. Just copy paste that and say that's what you believe and I will leave. And then you can have a long hard think about what your okay with.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487508033 113352625,113368758,2017-02-19 12:40:44,,,Anonymous,1487018897082.jpg,+qgINobbjHDYNY4F8uwL5g==,NL,,1487508044 113352625,113368771,2017-02-19 12:40:52,">>113368119 >who believes in democracy. >believes you sure picked the correct word by accident.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487508052 113352625,113368803,2017-02-19 12:41:10,,,Anonymous,1487016658262.png,DvoV9/FztdxLjL3NFG0npA==,NL,,1487508070 113352625,113368828,2017-02-19 12:41:21,">>113368746 I am fine with someones right to bestiality I am fine with someones rights to hard drugs I am fine with my neighbors rights to race mix I am fine with my neighbors rights to do the absolute most degenerate shit possible as long as no nap violation etc. I am fine if someone does not want to pay any tax to the upkeep of national,monuments and other places of cultural importance which would collapse wit",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487508081 113352625,113368841,2017-02-19 12:41:25,">>113352625 >>113366138",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1487508085 113352625,113368957,2017-02-19 12:42:24,">>113368746 Anyone has a fucking right for fucking everything. Now the fun part: your rights end where someone else's rights begin. Are you happy now?",,Anonymous,1471101273048.jpg,d1bBpSysJfNXdRaP0B6uxw==,RU,,1487508144 113352625,113369091,2017-02-19 12:43:35,">>113368746 Instead of cringing something that actually creates controversy you came up with stupid shit like bestiality and drugs The way you people gave up your freedom for stupid reasons is such a joke",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487508215 113352625,113369148,2017-02-19 12:43:54,">>113362282 who cares what you have to say, you have some of the most mediocre, run of the mill, sheepish interest in the bodies of females, KYS",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487508234 113352625,113369217,2017-02-19 12:44:37,">>113368366 Russia still butt hurt that they lost the cold war. Cry more faggots. >>113368391 It's hard to take some seriously when they are shit posting from a favela. Sad!",,Anonymous,Favela.jpg,u/NUiqLZRHxTIeyIx5vNPw==,US,,1487508277 113352625,113369314,2017-02-19 12:45:29,">>113369217 > moving goalposts like they have fucking wheels",,Anonymous,baitplane.png,jUr8aOsmACgl0JcayLxV+w==,RU,,1487508329 113352625,113369332,2017-02-19 12:45:38,">>113369148 I am pretty sure he masturbates to overweight tentacle lolies with 15 inch dicks but is posting standard shit to look normal >>113369217 t. Miguel Martinez, cuckoldry expert",,Anonymous,time the new face of america.jpg,DakmXRjVj9spcqug4ZJHjQ==,BR,,1487508338 113352625,113369352,2017-02-19 12:45:46,">>113368828 yes pretty much, except the bestiality part, which I noticed you led with to make your other examples seem more inflammatory when they aren't at all",,Anonymous,safe_image (1).gif,ALxhVJknS62Hdzp3rgJ79g==,US,,1487508346 113352625,113369773,2017-02-19 12:49:17,">>113369091 >>113369091 >>The way you people gave up your freedom for stupid reasons is such a joke Pretty much everyone in the libertarian sense of the word freedom as in free as in dom has given up freedom and liberty.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487508557 113352625,113369909,2017-02-19 12:50:29,">>113369148 It's okay if your into chicks with dicks, leaf, it's just not my thing. >>113369314 At least my country can afford wheels. >>113369332 >Talks shit about communist in World War 2. >His Favela doesn't even have running water in the current day.",,Anonymous,Favela 2.jpg,BVCV/a84T3aCHssOHV5oZg==,US,,1487508629 113352625,113369950,2017-02-19 12:50:54,"Gotta disembark from the train now, thanks for choosing Pinochet Air - number one for communist disposal since 1973.",,Anonymous,pinochets_helicopter_rides_t_shirt-rddb2c1e8147b466284aeebb805ab1270_jg31m_512.jpg,CSebhaOPMijD6Ey4ujdWxQ==,RU,,1487508654 113352625,113370068,2017-02-19 12:52:03,">>113369909 >Talks shit about favela >His mother is having a gang bang at one in this very moment",,Anonymous,most american picture of all time fat shaming.jpg,HlM0y5UlD4HDTwBmF0BaAQ==,BR,,1487508723 113352625,113370207,2017-02-19 12:53:05,">>113368746 You started out ok and then ended up shitposting... good effort though kiddo",,Anonymous,1471991008206.jpg,0IoUTafyPCJg/26nCdjBFg==,GB,,1487508785 113352625,113370407,2017-02-19 12:54:40,">>113369332 I have to ask a you a question because of that flag. Is it horrible to live in a country thats such a shithole and not have an excuse like sweden does? Its just your own people sucking, and that fucking portugese language is such a gutter noise, yuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487508880 113352625,113370425,2017-02-19 12:54:47,">>113368746 >lists a bunch of meaningless wedge issue wtf I love paying taxes towards abos so they can huff petrol now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487508887 113352625,113370486,2017-02-19 12:55:15,">>113370068 Your just made that your dad abandoned you at the age of 6 after your mom died (shot by off duty police officer) and is now an illegal immigrant in Mexico. Sucks to be you.",,Anonymous,Favela 3.jpg,kYTpUgQN8Jh5hJ747Mgl2g==,US,,1487508915 113352625,113370541,2017-02-19 12:55:45,">>113370486 *mad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487508945 113352625,113370658,2017-02-19 12:56:52,">>113370486 le 56% man does it again! right after licking Mr. Shekelstein's balls",,Anonymous,american cuck dies in wars while his wife fucks niggers.jpg,01Pnrr1JBWSYQjCZ6U7D6Q==,BR,,1487509012 113352625,113370684,2017-02-19 12:57:03,">>113354328 >conflating voting for large government with violence Really?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487509023 113352625,113371259,2017-02-19 13:01:56,">>113370658 >Implying your white, Mr. %47. My fucking sides.",,Anonymous,Favela 4.jpg,07VFotFC9rsitPXaZYWukA==,US,,1487509316 113352625,113371425,2017-02-19 13:03:27,">>113371259 >American >can't even properly write in English wev",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1487509407 113352625,113371453,2017-02-19 13:03:42,">>113371259 We are brown and fit You are brown and fat Your women pay to have sex with us :^)",,Anonymous,meanwhile in america.jpg,TaVCJI/hOZFXdHTPeG4d8w==,BR,,1487509422 113352625,113371745,2017-02-19 13:06:07,">>113371453 Women don't pay for sex idiot, brown men pay for sex.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487509567 113352625,113372277,2017-02-19 13:10:19,">>113371453 Other way around, paco.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487509819 113352625,113372310,2017-02-19 13:10:37,,,Anonymous,BWC.jpg,sKZSr/hdF2pwa47hbdZGjw==,US,,1487509837 113352625,113372885,2017-02-19 13:15:33,">>113371745 #triggered >>113372277 that smell...",,Anonymous,americans shitting their pants at walmart.png,PDcm8U/g1ACOF6rBW2OfYg==,BR,,1487510133 113352625,113373699,2017-02-19 13:21:52,">>113371745 >women dont want to pay for sex from the country with the biggest penis size Guarunteed you've never met a woman",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487510512 113352625,113375175,2017-02-19 13:33:03,">>113373699 Look I understand you don't get economics so let me spell it out Dick is in very low demand, white pussy however is in VERY high demand and has more value than brown dick. The suggestion that a woman would trade white pussy AND money for brown dick is absurd.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487511183 113352625,113375456,2017-02-19 13:35:25,">>113352625 Can we just agree that libertarianism can only work when we have a white ethno state already established?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1487511325 113352625,113375656,2017-02-19 13:36:59,,,Anonymous,16649199_1261912440543739_5107095411871081906_n.png,1hKetQ+BQeZDf2yUJFHxfQ==,BE,,1487511419 113352625,113375737,2017-02-19 13:37:37,">>113375456 that's a reasonable but unproven assumption",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487511457 113352625,113375789,2017-02-19 13:38:05,">>113352625 ITT: Fascists in denial",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487511485 113352625,113377183,2017-02-19 13:48:47,">>113368746 I am fine with someone's right to do X as long as it isn't ON MY FUCKING PROPERTY. Get that last part into your stupid head, cunt.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487512127 113352625,113377373,2017-02-19 13:50:08,">>113377183 Ok so what gives you the right to physically remove people who aren't on your property then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487512208 113352625,113377449,2017-02-19 13:50:40,">>113377373 Nothing. Did I ever state otherwise??",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487512240 113352625,113377491,2017-02-19 13:51:06,">>113377373 being a communist is a violation of the NAP",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487512266 113352625,113378023,2017-02-19 13:55:08,">>113377373 their desire to redistribute all my shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1487512508 113352625,113379402,2017-02-19 14:06:14,">>113367600 libertarian minarchist here: I'm fine with people fucking sheep, doesn't bother me. I'm absolutely fine with people using hard drugs. Raising a kid to be a transexual is bad parenting, granted... but lying about your gender while trying to date someone goes against the NAP. Again, I could give two shits and a fuck if my neighbor fucks his own horses. In my community there will be no black people that don't contribute. If they can contribute to society, I don't think they're a nigger. We're not NatSoc here. I don't agree with paying taxes to support anything that can't take care of itself. That being said I like museums, so they'll be getting money from me directly as I visit them, should I choose so. Now fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487513174 113352625,113380824,2017-02-19 14:17:36,bump,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487513856 113352625,113381028,2017-02-19 14:19:26,,,Anonymous,snek (18).png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,US,,1487513966 113352625,113382061,2017-02-19 14:28:22,,,Anonymous,snek (9).jpg,XDqd2wM4txFN6A5wR1odqA==,US,,1487514502 113352625,113382339,2017-02-19 14:30:42,">>113375456 I mixed race and I'm not chimping out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487514642 113352625,113382429,2017-02-19 14:31:21,">>113375175 This isnt the 1900's",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487514681 113352625,113384814,2017-02-19 14:51:34,"This whole authoritarian minarchism idea makes perfect fucking sense. It's not even really authoritarian, as leftists have rejected property rights to varying degrees and thus we have every right to defend ourselves to the same relative proportions. In other words, we should go to war with the full blown commies, and your average leftist should be given ultimatums to either join us or accept our secessionist movements. The world Hoppe advocates for would allow all non-degenerates to congregate in various regions and operate heavily privatized societies that would naturally reject degeneracy by empowering the forces of ostracism. Social ostracism is founded and derives it's power from private property an advanced systems of tort law, and is weakened through the creation of so-called ""public"" property and marxist regulatory schemes (central planning). The obvious solution to degenerates leeching off the commons is to GET RID OF THE COMMONS. There should be no such thing as ""public property"". It's a total contradiction of the very purpose of property rights in the first place.",,Anonymous,The_American-Bo_Barlett.jpg,jzwCvKFSa8Ev72xSE319Og==,CA,,1487515894 113352625,113385171,2017-02-19 14:55:01,">>113384814 >The world Hoppe advocates for would allow all non-degenerates to congregate in various regions and operate heavily privatized societies that would naturally reject degeneracy by empowering the forces of ostracism. Social ostracism is founded and derives it's power from private property an advanced systems of tort law, and is weakened through the creation of so-called ""public"" property and marxist regulatory schemes (central planning). 100% correct. Best post ITT. Congrats, leaf.",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1487516101 113352625,113385481,2017-02-19 14:57:34,">>113375456 The whole point is that anyone claiming to know the answer to that question is being ridiculous. We are in a time where both ethno nationalist and civic nationalist societies based on total respect for private property should both be allowed to exist simultaneously in a more decentralised world. In other words, we have insufficient data points to answer that question and more experimentation must be done.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487516254 114378345,114378345,2017-02-26 10:33:39,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - GET OFF MY GOD DAMN PROPERTY EDITION,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1488105219 114378345,114378390,2017-02-26 10:34:05,,,Anonymous,people.png,cO3uTr9qgeiA+5aJT7Y+lQ==,US,,1488105245 114378345,114378416,2017-02-26 10:34:26,,,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1488105266 114378345,114378987,2017-02-26 10:40:44,Neat.,,Anonymous,ancap pedo asshole.png,/8R2vaK9rfw+K1OoEyyTXw==,BR,,1488105644 114378345,114379232,2017-02-26 10:43:26,,,Anonymous,1487640300722.jpg,+NuPZLJIH6BmB1JFixdA7Q==,US,,1488105806 114378345,114379245,2017-02-26 10:43:31,">>114378987 I hear pedophiles have a hard time fitting in. >It's because they're fucking immature assholes",,Anonymous,snek (12).jpg,cn7zYt0hboGsOYZ1jwY0SA==,US,,1488105811 114378345,114379572,2017-02-26 10:47:07,,,Anonymous,1484770880542.jpg,waJIN88mar6T6AMm8r0hsQ==,ES,,1488106027 114378345,114379576,2017-02-26 10:47:10,,,Anonymous,IMG_4018.jpg,Byy9L0nKfSanT7JV4wG6iQ==,NL,,1488106030 114378345,114379776,2017-02-26 10:49:22,">>114379572 Spain, why are you so cucked? Don't you want to be king of your own land? why don't you give me (you)s in your thread?",,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1488106162 114378345,114380248,2017-02-26 10:54:57,Waiting for Portobro,,Anonymous,Physically removed2.png,/jtbl7UQsoomIFq0fpZbKQ==,DE,,1488106497 114378345,114380527,2017-02-26 10:58:24,,,Anonymous,1486853650632.jpg,vhGSexPPqfIRpuOBx4pd0A==,US,,1488106704 114378345,114380636,2017-02-26 10:59:28,,,Anonymous,1487208158393.jpg,M2hLhL9E+3ZbdFdsHa80nA==,US,,1488106768 114378345,114380698,2017-02-26 11:00:09,">>114378390 Swap Ron Paul and Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488106809 114378345,114380722,2017-02-26 11:00:19,,,Anonymous,JOINorDIE.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,US,,1488106819 114378345,114380807,2017-02-26 11:01:20,,,Anonymous,1486916246298.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,US,,1488106880 114378345,114380847,2017-02-26 11:01:44,">>114378345 Thank you for the PDF lists, OP. I was looking for few of the books.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1488106904 114378345,114380861,2017-02-26 11:02:01,">>114380698 No!",,Anonymous,1487096386138.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,DE,,1488106921 114378345,114381203,2017-02-26 11:05:51,">>114380698 Look dude, I love Ron Paul. But he has too much of a career legacy to drop the hard RedPills. thats why he's a ""pretty cool guy"" Hoppe on the other hand has always been full blown based openly. I know Ron Paul will never reveal his power level.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488107151 114378345,114381314,2017-02-26 11:07:05,,,Anonymous,AnCapXAnCom.png,jFSJ6p6V9GRVxIujIw024w==,BR,,1488107225 114378345,114381320,2017-02-26 11:07:15,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,8Z64/9Xpf6grp9L6BGdISg==,FR,,1488107235 114378345,114381551,2017-02-26 11:10:05,>>114378416,,Anonymous,14956024_1421100064858035_6722695049293885456_n.png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,DE,,1488107405 114378345,114382096,2017-02-26 11:16:18,"I love libertarians, they never think of bodycount. It makes the council so much money, and then when they get uppity. Well you just let the starving tumor ridden masses lynch them.",,Your Secret Councilman,council-spokesman-xcom-2-66.3.jpg,dtrvYCzZApGdOeCwHbHyRA==,US,,1488107778 114378345,114382441,2017-02-26 11:20:28,,,Anonymous,MajesticShyGreatwhiteshark.webm,1jnhzE8/U9uDnd0qe2Zypg==,US,,1488108028 114378345,114382691,2017-02-26 11:23:33,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utnowkjjAGg,,Anonymous,ChristopherCantwell.png,syLqy2M5gVcNlFUFe8zHcw==,US,,1488108213 114378345,114383269,2017-02-26 11:30:25,>>114382441,,Anonymous,1477577883336.jpg,kONyjPXSrMLDeMGpgmIBCA==,DE,,1488108625 114378345,114383414,2017-02-26 11:31:58,">>114380698 On Ron Paul https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaKLua5J_o8&index=56&list=PLmzSnh6rTNwD5X_a_rrKB8Q0D1pts1C8D",,Anonymous,AnarchistGadsden.png,YB/46et2ZZC+7S0LzOEFsA==,US,,1488108718 114378345,114383667,2017-02-26 11:34:43,">>114378345 Finally some sense.",,Anonymous,FA8D8702-0A18-4990-8AED-56DA9049FBAA-3931-00000569C9BB56CA_tmp.jpg,MeOTQAfMSH5QejJxSUfb9Q==,US,,1488108883 114378345,114383712,2017-02-26 11:35:08,">>114378390 >love life and anarchy >litterally called the jews >not in the based tier Come on",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488108908 114378345,114384079,2017-02-26 11:39:19,">>114383712 I'm sorry im not a natsoc so ""naming the jew"" while being a significant redpill is not the final redpill. The libertarian ladder goes higher than the jew.",,Anonymous,Badge(2)].png,nYdagc4xxLqNBLQdxrNn3g==,US,,1488109159 114378345,114384304,2017-02-26 11:41:41,">>114380248 Here I am!",,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1488109301 114378345,114384376,2017-02-26 11:42:26,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1488109346 114378345,114384447,2017-02-26 11:43:15,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1488109395 114378345,114384499,2017-02-26 11:43:48,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1488109428 114378345,114384518,2017-02-26 11:43:55,">114384304 Ayo",,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1488109435 114378345,114384530,2017-02-26 11:44:07,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1488109447 114378345,114384572,2017-02-26 11:44:27,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1488109467 114378345,114384611,2017-02-26 11:44:46,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1488109486 114378345,114384644,2017-02-26 11:45:07,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1488109507 114378345,114384684,2017-02-26 11:45:34,,,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1488109534 114378345,114384721,2017-02-26 11:46:04,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1488109564 114378345,114384758,2017-02-26 11:46:27,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1488109587 114378345,114384794,2017-02-26 11:46:49,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1488109609 114378345,114384846,2017-02-26 11:47:25,,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1488109645 114378345,114384863,2017-02-26 11:47:35,">tfw meant to make one of those stupid brain memes about libertarianism vs. fascism but I couldn't be fucked to >bluepill: hating Hitler because you think the Holocaust was morally wrong >slightly redpilled: idolizing Hitler >reasonably redpilled: hating Hitler because ruined the possiblity of white nationalism being taken seriously for the last 70 years and foreseeable future >fully redpilled: hating Hitler because national socialism would have doomed Europe to the worst economic collapse ever witnessed if it weren't for the Allies destroying Germany before they ran out of countries to conquer and rich people to rob and murder",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488109655 114378345,114384904,2017-02-26 11:48:01,">>114379245 lmfao at that fucing story",,Anonymous,5398333+_35c5664e4b7197b7caa3ad888a39941f.png,qHjjuPoP6gUrXasOWuL86Q==,ES,,1488109681 114378345,114384910,2017-02-26 11:48:06,,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1488109686 114378345,114385025,2017-02-26 11:49:14,,,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1488109754 114378345,114385100,2017-02-26 11:49:58,">>114384304 great to see others portobros with libertarian beliefs!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488109798 114378345,114385136,2017-02-26 11:50:26,">>114384863 I have a feeling the National Socialism was purely for the war economy he knew he needed. I heard him say in speech once that after he had won the war he would want the economy to be used for freedom for the German peoples. It was /lrg/ as fuck but I cant find it anymore.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488109826 114378345,114385195,2017-02-26 11:51:02,">>114382441 dat vagina can holy fucking shit man",,Anonymous,14676551_1595574470749914_3282029452858490880_n.jpg,I4L+TmJSquArfaLtGsBVtQ==,ES,,1488109862 114378345,114385240,2017-02-26 11:51:30,">>114385100 I'm the biggest shill of Hoppe libertarianism on his board. It's a nice change of tone from NatSoc or communist faggots infesting this place.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1488109890 114378345,114385264,2017-02-26 11:51:44,">>114384304 Heyo, made any progress with Hoppe wave? >>114384518 Beautiful",,Anonymous,1487117148637.jpg,WnHhljWcIZhgLq63GqR1SQ==,DE,,1488109904 114378345,114385392,2017-02-26 11:53:04,">>114378345 Oh look, another /general/ to slide the catalog. I'm sure glad we decided to become rebbit 2.0 and create our own subrebbits for every little fucking thing we want. Chan culture was shit anyway lol!",,Anonymous,imagelimit.jpg,9bOsaeQ2nJkt7MlQ3D+n1g==,US,,1488109984 114378345,114385516,2017-02-26 11:54:22,">>114385264 I can't find a decent audio editor. I have audacity, have the video clips, the soudbytes, and the base music (Motorcycle Cop by Nightforce) but I can't work with Audacity. It's too autistic and erratic. I'm only accustomed to After Effects and Premiere. I'll try to give it another shot tonight.",,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1488110062 114378345,114385565,2017-02-26 11:54:50,">>114379572 Id fuck the commie out of her",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488110090 114378345,114385750,2017-02-26 11:56:42,">>114379572 Wait until she gets a taste of Hoppe's weiner schnitzel He'll fuck the Karl Marx out of her",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488110202 114378345,114385803,2017-02-26 11:57:13,">what would Ancapistan look like? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CLJdRuBxW0&t=1h9m51s >>114385565 I'd make her my property.",,Anonymous,Monarchy.png,shQ0vXATgrTRWOoqBgtuOg==,US,,1488110233 114378345,114385836,2017-02-26 11:57:30,">>114385264 Also, I meant Motorcycle Cop by Power Glove. Nightforce is just another of their songs.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488110250 114378345,114385868,2017-02-26 11:57:47,">>114385240 Doing god's work anon >>114385392 /lrg/ is a necessity compared to /communism general/ and /facism general/. Stop wasting your time here and participate in your beloved ""bait-threads"" instead if you like that more.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488110267 114378345,114385942,2017-02-26 11:58:26,">>114385803 ah shit, embed doesn't start it where it should 1:09:50",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488110306 114378345,114385952,2017-02-26 11:58:32,">>114379776 spanish right has been socialist too spain is the only country in the world where independentist movements are not anti-goberment and right wing, but lefties pretty impresive",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1488110312 114378345,114386105,2017-02-26 12:00:06,">>114385392 At least it's politics related and not another ""lol whites BTFO"" bait",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488110406 114378345,114386202,2017-02-26 12:01:10,">>114385392 Just post the ayy lmao and quit your bitching.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488110470 114378345,114386231,2017-02-26 12:01:30,">>114385392 If you don't like it, you're free to physically remove yourself from the thread",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1488110490 114378345,114386423,2017-02-26 12:03:08,">>114385952 We have the same thing in Brittany and Corsica But at least corsicans don't suck muzzies dicks like those retarded Celtic cunts who always vote for the left at any election",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488110588 114378345,114386443,2017-02-26 12:03:22,">>114385516 Take your time, anon. I know that audacity is a pain in the ass, that's why I never got further into it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488110602 114378345,114386721,2017-02-26 12:06:07,">>114386443 Nevermind I'm working it out on Premiere Pro. It's so much easier.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488110767 114378345,114386771,2017-02-26 12:06:37,">>114385803 Fuck off ancap she /NSG/ now",,Anonymous,1487631002037.png,fUzR/1L7vhLyXyFdu9zNSw==,US,,1488110797 114378345,114386937,2017-02-26 12:08:22,,,Anonymous,ancap-reality.png,zuGOK4MCoRkzTBdMW1D8jA==,US,,1488110902 114378345,114386958,2017-02-26 12:08:40,,,Anonymous,IMG_20170204_120854_292.jpg,7A9qkEsIDghXvOUk0tjqpw==,US,,1488110920 114378345,114386996,2017-02-26 12:08:57,">>114386771 He's beyond /nsg/. you'll learn soon enough that wearing a red armband isn't nessasary to care for your people.",,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1488110937 114378345,114387011,2017-02-26 12:09:03,">>114385803 >>114386771 Calm down gentlemen After all she is a Common property",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488110943 114378345,114387248,2017-02-26 12:11:30,">>114386771 My bid of 3 BitCoins says otherwise >GOING ONCE!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111090 114378345,114387407,2017-02-26 12:12:57,">>114387248 5 /natsoc/ gold bars",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111177 114378345,114387453,2017-02-26 12:13:35,">>114387011 Not any more frog",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111215 114378345,114387500,2017-02-26 12:14:00,">>114379572 Would make her part of my private property",,Anonymous,,,DO,,1488111240 114378345,114387642,2017-02-26 12:15:39,">>114379245 Wow, the free market is truly impressive",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111339 114378345,114387737,2017-02-26 12:16:39,">>114387407 I bid my Tesla Space Cruiser™, 5 BitCoins and 2 Tomahawk missles.",,Anonymous,fuck.png,GV8cJqYI+PQ8K3WD7f35kw==,US,,1488111399 114378345,114387895,2017-02-26 12:18:19,"Honest question: why would i not want the government to forcibly take resources from rich people, and distribute that money to me?",,Anonymous,libertarian logic.jpg,asMTqi7QCZAlDLavrwrdyg==,US,,1488111499 114378345,114388019,2017-02-26 12:19:37,">>114387737 >SOLD!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111577 114378345,114388045,2017-02-26 12:19:55,">>114387895 because that's immoral",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488111595 114378345,114388129,2017-02-26 12:20:51,">>114388045 but why should i care if it's immoral?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111651 114378345,114388132,2017-02-26 12:20:53,">>114387895 because you don't believe in meritocracy, because you're a communist. because you will have to be physically removed, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111653 114378345,114388208,2017-02-26 12:21:39,">>114387895 You can But there would be no more rich people",,Anonymous,image.jpg,odSqtCbb0ffWbhNI7uBEiA==,FR,,1488111699 114378345,114388252,2017-02-26 12:22:08,">>114388045 >immoral No its not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111728 114378345,114388276,2017-02-26 12:22:20,">>114387737 >>114388019 I bid one jewish genocide",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111740 114378345,114388283,2017-02-26 12:22:24,">>114388129 because someone will kill you",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488111744 114378345,114388290,2017-02-26 12:22:28,">>114385803 >feudalism is good >apparently only the rich will be allowed anarchy >the poor will have to obey the owners of the land where they live Wtf, I hate radical agenda now. That's some pretty stupid reasoning there, Ancapistan is just oligarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111748 114378345,114388370,2017-02-26 12:23:23,">>114388132 the vast majority of people don't believe in meritocracy. you think the average joe would give a shit if Soros got all his money stolen by the government? This is the problem with libertarian arguments. You never provide a reason why I would want to live in the society that you're proposing. >hurr muh helicopter...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488111803 114378345,114388422,2017-02-26 12:24:01,">>114378345 why do libertarians make the best alternate pol-logos?",,Anonymous,1465627837393-pol.png,HuXB70DAr3LU0JXXcfMGRw==,CA,,1488111841 114378345,114388424,2017-02-26 12:24:02,">>114388252 >You can't keep what you earn or we jail Sure",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488111842 114378345,114388452,2017-02-26 12:24:19,">>114388276 Forgot pic",,Anonymous,1486953870378.jpg,wVTBZC8JyDA7kr7qQ/IA9A==,US,,1488111859 114378345,114388552,2017-02-26 12:25:15,">>114388132 Praise Kek!",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488111915 114378345,114388601,2017-02-26 12:25:43,">>114388422 Probably because they like to create quality content unlike socialists who only leech :^)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488111943 114378345,114388623,2017-02-26 12:25:56,>>114388045,,Anonymous,1487190033412.jpg,piWBmUQyjz5Z6ZZycB4s/A==,US,,1488111956 114378345,114388645,2017-02-26 12:26:10,Can any of you guys help me find an interview done to Jared Taylor? I believe it was at the NPI conference where Richard Spencer sperged out and began shouting Hail Trump and whatnot. It's a very recent interview but I can't find it anymore.,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488111970 114378345,114388716,2017-02-26 12:26:56,">>114387895 That picture you've poted is retarded. Open-border libertarians are the worst of the worst, if you're not abolishing the welfare-state at the same time you're opening the borders you'll fuck up big league. That will answer your question also, because if we have an established welfare state the poor are dependent on the government who uses force to collect money and sustain themselves. It's not only immoral in regards of taxation=theft, it also allows the bureaucratic class to dictate the state spending and accumulate debt on the costs of the future generations and will ultimately lead to the downfall of the whole state.",,Anonymous,1486927660989.jpg,utyTJWYPy2UINS2MQs3jzw==,DE,,1488112016 114378345,114388760,2017-02-26 12:27:21,">>114387895 because it would violate their rights you fucking commie, get a job.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1488112041 114378345,114388776,2017-02-26 12:27:35,">>114379572 FILTH I L T H",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488112055 114378345,114388821,2017-02-26 12:28:03,>>114378345,,Anonymous,therightwing.png,doYwngv9O/ggjBja380nJQ==,US,,1488112083 114378345,114388825,2017-02-26 12:28:05,">>114379572 In a classless society we would equally redistribute that pussy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488112085 114378345,114388890,2017-02-26 12:28:40,">>114378345 You know, I am just overly joyous on you guys for developing so far in your desire to not get killed by the mudslime forces, the jews and the liberals. A very weird but potent divergence for sanity you guys are. The reason why so many here are natsoc is probably because you guys value hard work a lot, and therefore they want there to be national ""socialism"" (white mans neetbux) But your ideology is profoundly sound, even the way you approach somewhat advanced rights issues, and philosophical issues as well. Srsly, as a natsoc guy I have become 30% of you now. pic related is the best thing ever. Like holy kek.",,Anonymous,1487277691523.jpg,MwlQXwjeEEwEZz9354wlWw==,NL,,1488112120 114378345,114388963,2017-02-26 12:29:15,">>114387895 Because you're not entitled to free gibsmedats because you can't be fucking bothered to work hard and get a decent job, back to plebbit bernout",,Anonymous,544.jpg,myhV/IadcGTYqe/R6YQrvw==,GB,,1488112155 114378345,114388969,2017-02-26 12:29:20,">>114387895 also bad strawman",,Anonymous,Untitled-1.png,c+5JlkVPBudvfk0+Zdul9Q==,US,,1488112160 114378345,114389070,2017-02-26 12:30:26,">>114388370 >This is the problem with libertarian arguments. That's because you never read about the philosophical currents that lie behind libertarianism. You just probably heard of, or read about the free market. We think that man has property over his body, his labor and over the land he works on. We also think that man, to improve his standards of living, must exchange with others. But such exchange must be voluntary. The initiation of force against another or his property is, in TL;DR terms, immoral according to the ethical-philosophical libertarian thought.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1488112226 114378345,114389081,2017-02-26 12:30:31,">>114388129 >this is the level of bluepill we're on",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1488112231 114378345,114389168,2017-02-26 12:31:21,">>114388963 Why do you think I care if I'm not entitled or not? If I'm in a bad situation economically why would I care more about a rich person's rights than getting their money for myself?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488112281 114378345,114389249,2017-02-26 12:32:04,">>114389168 Then you are a hypocrite thug",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488112324 114378345,114389298,2017-02-26 12:32:33,">>114388821 >PJW=not alt lite? >styxhexenhammer=not simply a libertarian? >Ghost=not capitalist right? >milo=not alt lite? >Molymeme=not ""redpilled""? Besides that, everything elese should be alright",,Anonymous,1474326285885.jpg,M8jiFx3ELAQq+izQlWvL3g==,DE,,1488112353 114378345,114389303,2017-02-26 12:32:36,">>114379572 Would tread on",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488112356 114378345,114389310,2017-02-26 12:32:39,">>114389168 because not caring about someone else's rights will get you shot",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488112359 114378345,114389390,2017-02-26 12:33:38,">>114389168 Back to >>114388045 Why would we care if we threw you out of a helicopter?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488112418 114378345,114389392,2017-02-26 12:33:38,">>114389168 because then you'd violate their rights, which would deny your rights as well, and you can imagine what happens next",,Anonymous,pepenochet.png,UmHN43M4YCfDwF1T1u7tGA==,IT,,1488112418 114378345,114389463,2017-02-26 12:34:23,">>114389070 >That's because you never read about the philosophical currents that lie behind libertarianism. You just probably heard of, or read about the free market. I've watched plenty of molyneaux and I totally understand the arguments being made. Initiation of force is bad and taking someone's money through taxes is therefore bad. I get it. But why should I care? Why should I care if it's bad? I care about myself, not you. Do you not realize that this is how 99.999% of the world thinks? Your appeal to morality falls flat because you don't make your argument appealing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488112463 114378345,114389478,2017-02-26 12:34:33,">>114389249 most people are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488112473 114378345,114389483,2017-02-26 12:34:34,">>114388129 Wow.",,Anonymous,zpjj9zrwnwrx.jpg,E0OVXs3P9Gddl4uD2ri0kg==,US,,1488112474 114378345,114389507,2017-02-26 12:34:48,">>114389168 If you are exempt from morals then everyone else are too, there is literally no reason for the person you are stealing from not to shoot you",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1488112488 114378345,114389527,2017-02-26 12:34:59,">>114378345 > You're libertarian ideology is just a tool to justify corporate exploitation backed up by extensive authoritarian states (i.e the ultimate in big government)",,Anonymous,16996193_10212393857468589_4290069902865578274_n.jpg,+FyYJ45tQya8Z8ZEQsRmUA==,GB,,1488112499 114378345,114389558,2017-02-26 12:35:21,">>114389478 That's what you assume",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488112521 114378345,114389601,2017-02-26 12:35:45,">>114378345 We're coming for your toothbrushes",,Anonymous,Kirby Loses Their Chains.jpg,gYtv8SfrtTe70rHGBV18Sg==,GB,,1488112545 114378345,114389653,2017-02-26 12:36:27,Why do ancaps like Pinochet so much when he was authoritarian?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488112587 114378345,114389693,2017-02-26 12:36:55,">>114389558 That's what I know, since I know that everyone wants more money, and there are more poor people who want more money than rich people who want to conserve their money. At the end of the day this morality means literally nothing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488112615 114378345,114389749,2017-02-26 12:37:29,">>114388890 thank you for your kind words, you very are welcome here just as long as none of your kin try to forcefully redistribute my labor.",,Anonymous,Pol (2).png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1488112649 114378345,114389807,2017-02-26 12:38:06,">>114389601 Keep crying",,Anonymous,image.jpg,3ePHAOE0Nad7iFxfucz8nA==,FR,,1488112686 114378345,114389809,2017-02-26 12:38:09,">>114389653 oh, no reason...",,Anonymous,when i see a commie.jpg,/Ri46cMNUm5Peyy6b95dLQ==,IT,,1488112689 114378345,114389845,2017-02-26 12:38:32,">>114389653 because he killed communists in a very entertaining way. and we like that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488112712 114378345,114389991,2017-02-26 12:40:10,">>114385136 This. Hitler wasn't a socialist. He used the label to attract plebs. He killed off the strasserists. And if the whole world turns against you, what the fuck good is laiz a fairre",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1488112810 114378345,114390206,2017-02-26 12:42:31,">>114389749 Theoretically speaking, your ideology is probably what is going to happen anyhow without the subversive and hostile elements in a society. Natsoc kinda seems like a transitional phase to purge unwanted things. Plus the free marker really is gret. I would frown upon trading with shitskins though, so perhaps think more into the lines of ethnic libertarianism lol? or why not just wipe out all non whites first?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488112951 114378345,114390221,2017-02-26 12:42:39,">>114389601 C R I N G E R I N G E",,Anonymous,,,DO,,1488112959 114378345,114390243,2017-02-26 12:42:55,">>114380722 >LP look dude, that was like, half a NAP violation",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488112975 114378345,114390303,2017-02-26 12:43:31,Hilter thought capitalism was a Jewish conspiracy,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488113011 114378345,114390335,2017-02-26 12:43:58,">>114389463 Simple, that's thief mentality. Society is doomed to fail eventually if the thievery is enough to hold back prosperity (and the best way to prosperity is the respect of property rights and voluntary exchange, which also happens to be the most ethical position). I simply don't want to associate with thieves. There are probably people like me too. I want to associate with them, and they probably want to associate with me, too. And, meme or not, I would physically remove people like you.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1488113038 114378345,114390419,2017-02-26 12:44:59,">>114382096 The starving tumor ridden masses better know their place or they get the napalm.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488113099 114378345,114390461,2017-02-26 12:45:28,">>114389601 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYcLOKzPimQ",,Anonymous,into the trash it goes.jpg,2Ng/2VnJ0K2EjAWFet7gBg==,GB,,1488113128 114378345,114390540,2017-02-26 12:46:19,">>114378345 >>114378390 >>114378416 You come so very close but fail Not a single mention of Henry George or the lvt corporate stooges dressed up in the bill of rights. Royal libertarians the lot of you",,Anonymous,TkkrWa5.jpg,VQg5CGVDwJT8pqg0y+9wmg==,US,,1488113179 114378345,114390818,2017-02-26 12:49:21,">>114385392 Get physically removed, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488113361 114378345,114390932,2017-02-26 12:50:36,">>114386771 At least we don't worship a failed ideology.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488113436 114378345,114390940,2017-02-26 12:50:43,">>114390206 to add to that: what if a race is incapable of understanding libertarianism rights and laws? Because of their too low IQ, as many of the races which are not white cannot even into basic democracy. Can you really expect them to understand things like the NAP, or why taxes are theft? Is there even an argument to classify them as humans? Why not simply treat them as animals or slaves? The libertarianism lore is still mostly only for whites, by whites created.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488113443 114378345,114390978,2017-02-26 12:51:02,">>114389809 >>114389845 Fair enough",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488113462 114378345,114390979,2017-02-26 12:51:02,">>114390303 Hitler disliked capitalism because when germany was in ruin after WW1 the german people were desperately poor and they started becoming prostitues and and doing all kinds of degenerate shit for money.They got raped in war and did awful shit to survive Hitler blamed Capitalism instead of the destruction of germany.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488113462 114378345,114390992,2017-02-26 12:51:10,">>114387011 A free good, you mean.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488113470 114378345,114391055,2017-02-26 12:51:48,">>114389749 >""molon labe"" Is this referencing the mexican-texan war?",,Anonymous,comeandtakeit.png,g1XVFOUCH4DkXF6hZmud+g==,DE,,1488113508 114378345,114391110,2017-02-26 12:52:19,">>114378345 >>114378390 >>114378416 We call ourselves the ""party of principle,"" and we base property rights on the principle that everyone is entitled to the fruits of his labor. Land, however, is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and our system of land tenure is based not on labor, but on decrees of privilege issued from the state, called titles. In fact, the term ""real estate"" is Middle English (originally French) for ""royal state."" The ""title"" to land is the essence of the title of nobility, and the root of noble privilege. The royal free lunch When the state granted land titles to a fraction of the population, it gave that fraction devices with which to levy, and pocket, tolls on the fruits of the labor of others. Those without land privileges must either buy or rent those privileges from the people who received the grants or from their assignees. Thus the state titles enable large landowners to collect a transfer payment, or ""free lunch"" from the actual land users. The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. --Carlyle",,Anonymous,12974368_1714525202161353_9196892083295237146_n.jpg,Ieg9bwmfp20KKPhKj9MS4A==,US,,1488113539 114378345,114391125,2017-02-26 12:52:27,">>114387895 Because you will both be tossed from helicopters?",,Anonymous,gadsden tupac.jpg,bST9CR/2uIxehhe/byfhRg==,SK,,1488113547 114378345,114391144,2017-02-26 12:52:41,"YES YES YES YES YES KEEP THIS THREAD EVERYDAY ANON LIBERTARIANISM IS THE ONLY TRUE GOOD POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY!!! THERE IS HOPE!! I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS FINALLY HAPPENING ALL THOSE NAZI FAGS NEEDS TO GET BTFO!!!!",,Anonymous,4shot.jpg,JNX6h3QE3Xe/bpgt9DQGQg==,FI,,1488113561 114378345,114391171,2017-02-26 12:52:56,">>114390940 That's why Rothbard hated niggers It's because they don't understand How freedom works",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488113576 114378345,114391224,2017-02-26 12:53:29,">>114378345 >>114378390 >>114378416 Tortured rationalizations According to royal libertarians, land becomes private property when one mixes one's labor with it. And mixing what is yours with what is not yours in order to own the whole thing is considered great sport. But the notion is filled with problems. How much labor does it take to claim land, and how much land can one claim for that labor? And for how long can one make that claim? According to classical liberals, land belonged to the user for as long as the land was being used, and no longer. But according to royal libertarians, land belongs to the first user, forever. So, do the oceans belong to the heirs of the first person to take a fish out or put a boat in? Does someone who plows the same field each year own only one field, while someone who plows a different field each year owns dozens of fields? Should the builder of the first transcontinental railroad own the continent? Shouldn't we at least have to pay a toll to cross the tracks? Are there no common rights to the earth at all? To royal libertarians there are not, but classical liberals recognized that unlimited ownership of land never flowed from use, but from the state: A right of property in movable things is admitted before the establishment of government. A separate property in lands not till after that establishment.... He who plants a field keeps possession of it till he has gathered the produce, after which one has as good a right as another to occupy it. Government must be established and laws provided, before lands can be separately appropriated and their owner protected in his possession. Till then the property is in the body of the nation. --Thomas Jefferson",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,download.jpg,1R/aguyD25rNlFzLl8RgXw==,US,,1488113609 114378345,114391329,2017-02-26 12:54:29,">>114378345 >>114378390 >>114378416 ""But we're used to it"" A favorite excuse of royal libertarians is that the land has been divided up for so long that tracing the rightful owners would be pointless. But there can be no rightful owners if we all have an inalienable right of access to the earth. It is not some ancient injustice we seek to rectify, but an ongoing injustice. The piece of paper granting title might be ancient, but the tribute levied on the landless goes on and on. One might as well have accepted monarchy under the excuse that whatever conquest led to monarchy occurred centuries ago, and that tracing the rightful monarchs would be pointless. Indeed, landed aristocracy is the last remnant of monarchy.",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,henrygeorge_whowashe2.jpg,hu4IaFLs7x/j2kEVIBVh0w==,US,,1488113669 114378345,114391430,2017-02-26 12:55:33,">>114378345 >>114378390 >>114378416 Socialist Confusions The classical liberal distinctions between land, labor and capital were greatly confused by socialists, and particularly Marxists, who substituted the fuzzy abstract term, ""means of production,"" for all three factors. They also blurred the distinction between common property and state property, for socialists believed, as royalty also believed, that they were the people. Today, the confusions between land and capital and between state property and common property are shared by socialists and royal libertarians, and only classical liberals keep these distinctions clearly defined. Yet royal libertarians frequently duck the land issue by charging that it is the classical liberals, not the royal libertarians, who have embraced socialist ideas.",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,too-damn-high.jpg,TI3nyofUPW4+byNvMNk/6A==,US,,1488113733 114378345,114391460,2017-02-26 12:55:48,">>114388276 Okay, except for Ivanka Trump. Go right ahead.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488113748 114378345,114391605,2017-02-26 12:57:23,"WE NEED TO ORGANIZE BETTER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZHLxhRLx50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5gQo43ay4 GARY JOHNSON WAS A HILLARY SHILL we need mobilize and actually make a fucking difference instead of just stealing votes",,Anonymous,bfranklin_fb_link.jpg,oKPv9Q4+q4zVdCpqiAgN8Q==,FI,,1488113843 114378345,114391681,2017-02-26 12:58:05,">>114378345 GET THE HELICOPTER READY! Libertarian/pol Discord: https://discord.gg/swp3YFF Get in here!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488113885 114378345,114391734,2017-02-26 12:58:38,"I grew up in a town plagued by addiction and when we were in high school we could get any drug we wanted.. be it pills, weed, coke, xanax and we even had creepy guys that would offer to sell us GUNS, but the things we could not get were cigarettes and ALCOHOL! Because what self respecting adult sells teenagers alcohol.. we would literally have to get it from homeless guys! IF drugs were legalized it would protect children more than now. For many of my friends the first drugs they ever tried was their mom's pills. So yes healthcare workers should explain that opiates are addictive but prohibition needs to be ended entirely and people just need to be warned of the risks associated with different substances and be truthful about it. Many kids wrongly assumed pills were not that harmful because DARE agents told us weed would kill us! Doctors should not prescribe pain killers to people who have never taken them, but if a person understands the risks they should be able to put whatever substance into their body they want. Fentnyl Deaths are a prime symptom of the failed prohibition we call the WAR ON DRUGS. Fentnyl is able to be manufactured in labs similar to meth and when addicts are not able to get safer drugs such as oxycontin they turn to DANGEROUS ones such as fentnyl. Oxycodone is actually one of the safest opiates in terms of overdoses and has a relatively high therapeutic index which is the ratio between the dose that kills you and the dose that makes you high. Prohibition didnt work in the 1930s and it doesnt work now and it will NEVER work. PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET HIGH ARE GOING TO GET HIGH NO MATTER WHAT!!!!! THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW MUCH DAMAGE IT DOES ON SOCIETY.",,WHY ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL,1481853163532.jpg,57QkA0BgOcMV5Rplw6e5TQ==,FI,,1488113918 114378345,114391741,2017-02-26 12:58:43,">>114378345 >from our board of peace Good one anon",,Anonymous,laugh.png,BXh2CVv68G+vdjhEKAOnpg==,US,,1488113923 114378345,114391800,2017-02-26 12:59:13,">>114391605 Someone is always going to steal votes senpai",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,Screen-Shot-2016-12-01-at-1.23.45-PM.png,dEZtulpMAJa4Evt9Nmzm5Q==,US,,1488113953 114378345,114391842,2017-02-26 12:59:40,">>114388890 You're chill. You can create a NatSoc covenant if you want.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488113980 114378345,114391869,2017-02-26 12:59:54,">>114390979 He blaimed the ""destruction of germany"". Ultimately germany was destroyed when the Entente passed the treaty of Versailles, which robbed the german people of their production capacities and their natural resources after WWI. There was no opportunity to construct a functioning capitalistic system during the Weimar Republic because there wasn't anything left of industrial value to start a working industry again. Indeed there were incapable socialist leaders during that time who helped to weaken financial system even more. But I agree that Hitler blamed capitalism also but I'm certain that it wasn't really a cause of the downfall of the Weimar Republic",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488113994 114378345,114391879,2017-02-26 13:00:00,"And prohibition maximizes the damage on society that drugs do. It has been proven that the CIA has dealt drugs in the 80s and we have all seen the pictures of American soldiers guarding opium fields. Do you think the government just leaves all that money on the table! NO WAY and they double their profits because they jail drug addicts and imprison dealers so they make DOUBLE THEIR MONEY! In fact you can get drugs in Saudi Arabia where they will cut your head off if they catch you, but they take tramadol a medicine that can give you seizures! NEVER TRUST ANYONE TRYING TO CONTROL YOU! FREEDOM IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING! There is no reason a grown adult that needs a doctor to tell them what they can put in their own body. You are not them and do not understand what goes on in someone else's head or body. Some people need heroin to function others need amphetamine(adderall) or methamphetamine or weed or LSD(artists).. This country was founded upon liberty and you should be able to pursue happiness however you see fit unless it directly interferes with someone else's freedom.",,WHY ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL,1482083883759.jpg,wP+ZsYxhbqEOBOqjomvkgQ==,FI,,1488114000 114378345,114391978,2017-02-26 13:01:01,"The rehab industry has been trying to block people from getting subutex which is the number one treatment for opiate addiciton, because they want addicts to become institutionalized and dependent on them for survival, and have seen more lives turned around because of kratom and subutex than any rehab or aa or na. I have seen dozens of former junkies fail in rehabs and aa and na but when they take subutex they are able to work and support their families and be productive... later they are able to ween themselves off of it no problem without having to spend thousands of dollars for rehab... AND if they ever slip up they know all they have to do is take subs for a few weeks and then ween off again. Thats why subutex and kratom are so great and provide addicts with reliable self reliance! Rehabs and AA and NA AT BEST can claim 5 percent efficacy but I have dozens of friends and every single one of them that learned to treat themselves with subutex or kratom have become successful adults! Dr Drew speaks out against these therapies but he is just scared that he will be irrelevant without people needing 12 step bullshit! ALSO it is a travesty that they taint buprenorphine tablets with naloxone.. that is just more incentive for addicts not to take that drug instead of heroin or what have you, because for the addict to take it with naloxone he or she has to spend an entire 24 HOURS in withdrawal or else taking the naloxone will put them into PRECIPITATED WITHDRAWALS. Putting naloxone in with buprenorphine which already has opiate blocking effects is no better than drug dealers spiking their heroin with adulterants and only serves to disincentivize drug addicts taking something healthier!",,WHY ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL,Donald_Trump-legalize-drugs.png,dfhaItrgihwyWztYOd1EOg==,FI,,1488114061 114378345,114392009,2017-02-26 13:01:20,"Let people make their own decision about their bodies and dont take their resources away from them! You have no idea what goes on in someone elses head.. Only they are qualified to decide what gets put in their body. Do not vote your freedom away.. anyone who tries to control you or your actions cannot be trusted and must be fought against! Drug addicts are the most oppressed minority on the planet and their persecution only rivals the holocaust in terms of scope! DO NOT VOTE YOUR FREEDOM AWAY ANY FURTHER.. TRUST NO ONE THAT TRIES TO CONTROL YOU. FREEDOM IS THE ONLY THING WORTH FIGHTING FOR. FREEDOM COMES AT A COST THOUGH IT IS NOT FREE.",,WHY ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL,steve-jobs-478697.jpg,I2KEKUSnpDUmh9hDjwz9qg==,FI,,1488114080 114378345,114392032,2017-02-26 13:01:35,">>114391171 its because they lack the mental capacity for such things as the past, or the future, or any kind of conceptualization, which is required to comprehend, and to enact the libertarian principles correctly. https://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/ its IQ, but its also just whole brain regions missing, and also pic related being different, or also missing. If you were to go from the basic ""humanism""(human is a word that actually does not represent any one specimen of any race), then the niggers would have no souls, they would be but mere animals. The good news however is that it is relatively easy to prove who is able and who is not to comprehend your ideology. With some certainty. But the bad news (or is it?) is that you need to have some form of racial realism for yourselves, but I got the feeling you guys already have that somewhat. You see, as a natsoc dude I wouldnt have many problems with you guys having pretty much all of your desires be made into reality. But the bit about the negro's, lefties and jews really is a problem. Though at least you fixed the problem of the lefties with that pic I put at the beginning of the thread. Though the negro menace still remains.",,Anonymous,1467126309265.png,Xbt3H7a6wdyvrPNQHaRRSg==,NL,,1488114095 114378345,114392045,2017-02-26 13:01:45,>>114379572,,Anonymous,tmp_25888-ocThDgN-528195220.jpg,hdcMhFXapX1XvTvCZ5sC8A==,PL,,1488114105 114378345,114392138,2017-02-26 13:02:41,">>114389168 Because you will be droned, you organs sold for transplants to people you hate, your ""government"" will be defenestrated, and your property seized and turned into a commie squat, then bombed by an ANFO truck.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488114161 114378345,114392147,2017-02-26 13:02:47,">>114388821 btw where is Shapiro (based) and Crowder (meh)?",,Anonymous,1480603897363v2.png,MlZv7UddNTKUKMfe9ghhKA==,DE,,1488114167 114378345,114392169,2017-02-26 13:03:01,">>114391800 yeah but if it should be AN ACTUAL PRINCIPLED LIBERTARIAN instead of gary fucking take your guns and open the borders wide for a fucking johnson!!!!!",,WHY ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL,FOUNDING.jpg,UQpMux9mtlmQeuYzw9p8Qg==,FI,,1488114181 114378345,114392194,2017-02-26 13:03:13,">>114391879 I need sauce on those thighs. Immediately",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488114193 114378345,114392283,2017-02-26 13:04:24,">>114389527 This is the effect public schools have on children. SAD!",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488114264 114378345,114392390,2017-02-26 13:05:37,">>114389653 He was best buddies with (((Friedman))).",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488114337 114378345,114392392,2017-02-26 13:05:37,Post a e s t h e t i c libertarian images,,Anonymous,1486537807134.jpg,xFDY2Q5pHKc/VFhudzAKGQ==,DE,,1488114337 114378345,114392443,2017-02-26 13:06:11,">>114391171 >not advocating for the single tax >supports the royal land ""owning"" class I don think you know what freedom means senpai >>114392169 If you support royal/right libertarians you are not being ideologically consistent",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,Henry-George-Progress-and-Poverty-191x300.jpg,h0UPHF2qj5EJhKvgXVvK6A==,US,,1488114371 114378345,114392528,2017-02-26 13:07:03,">>114392009 >>114391978 >>114391879 >>114391734 >>114391605 Thanks for your input, Joe. I really appreciate it",,Anonymous,1487270101778.png,AQKE7h34VTxbtcMZtsLHXw==,DE,,1488114423 114378345,114392577,2017-02-26 13:07:36,">>114390303 And Hitler failed, dooming Europe into a sea of degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488114456 114378345,114392594,2017-02-26 13:07:44,>>114392392,,Anonymous,1487910348697.jpg,a7J+zzGxOke7onga0nE0hQ==,DE,,1488114464 114378345,114392637,2017-02-26 13:08:10,>>114392594,,Anonymous,virtue and morality.jpg,S+Js8UlZii5nxFwiiM6ahg==,DE,,1488114490 114378345,114392643,2017-02-26 13:08:12,Threadly reminder that if you support land monopoly you are part of the problem,,Geolibertarian/Georgist,5d8fcf53608ff336c52b7e045b7b82ce.jpg,NCGjE7zuxFN+nAHKBxyJ6w==,US,,1488114492 114378345,114392759,2017-02-26 13:09:27,">>114392443 I think you're the only geolibertarian I've seen on this entire board. I encourage you to read Huemer's informal critique of georgism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488114567 114378345,114393017,2017-02-26 13:12:16,">>114390540 >Not understanding what socialism/communism are Get rid of communism, replace the diagram for ""Socialism"" with the one for ""Communism"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488114736 114378345,114393078,2017-02-26 13:12:48,">>114392759 give me a tldr honey; promise ill read it all when i have some time. The only reformer abroad in the world in my time who interested me in the least was Henry George, because his project did not contemplate prescription, but, on the contrary, would reduce it to almost zero. He was the only one of the lot who believed in freedom, or (as far as I could see) had any approximation to an intelligent idea of what freedom is, and of the economic prerequisites to attaining it....One is immensely tickled to see how things are coming out nowadays with reference to his doctrine, for George was in fact the best friend the capitalist ever had. He built up the most complete and most impregnable defense of the rights of capital that was ever constructed, and if the capitalists of his day had had sense enough to dig in behind it, their successors would not now be squirming under the merciless exactions which collectivism is laying on them, and which George would have no scruples whatever about describing as sheer highwaymanry. --Albert J. Nock ""Thoughts on Utopia",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,AnarchismTree09.gif,7QPD8RGPI7DZoPFc+kgttQ==,US,,1488114768 114378345,114393151,2017-02-26 13:13:32,Spicy memes coming in.,,Anonymous,2fb1f7c86de910d767243f4816e34e3f.jpg,igO1XjfqHHwl3i0VgSs4ZQ==,US,,1488114812 114378345,114393172,2017-02-26 13:13:45,"How does a normal human compete with a transhuman in a libertarian society? Won't libertarianism lead to the extinction of humans?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488114825 114378345,114393237,2017-02-26 13:14:25,"Corporations are government tax entities, people granted special privileges from the State. A hold over from mercantilism. However corporations are also a HUGE boon to the middle class and to business owners, as well as consumers. Discuss the following options -subordinate Corporations to government oversight on account of the fact that theyre government entities (the iffiest option, but hey if trust busting can work) -Let them have free reign in the name of efficiency and to hell with the consequences you filthy commie -Abolish corporate law, remove the privilege of corporations from American Law at the expense of efficiency but in the name of economic and societal health (which seems the safest route to me, but also snubs the two most important classes in American society) Also can we discuss the mechanisms and technical advantages of abolishing the monopoly on minting?",,Apermitic,1488061016947.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1488114865 114378345,114393263,2017-02-26 13:14:39,">>114378390 Who's the guy below Hoppe?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1488114879 114378345,114393413,2017-02-26 13:16:17,">>11439307 Interestingly enough, he's sympathetic to georgism, but thinks it wouldn't matter that much for basic income. Link: Pt. 1: https://www.cato-unbound.org/2014/08/18/michael-huemer/property-georgism-safety-net Pt. 2: https://www.cato-unbound.org/2014/08/28/michael-huemer/more-about-georgism-land-taxes",,Anonymous,2eabfaff1311d7d82cb4d1b5fa57ac844ede8e71698c9e2c9e35d10ee65e3764.png,zPhkGzKPDLEA6j1ymW/VzA==,US,,1488114977 114378345,114393497,2017-02-26 13:17:06,,,Anonymous,Hisss3.jpg,+Fs/pCQU++Cd4TqWq3bBcw==,NL,,1488115026 114378345,114393507,2017-02-26 13:17:11,">>114392443 Land tax makes sense only as long as land is a scarce resource. Given a long enough timeframe, we could see space exploration put an end to the only tax. But yeah, it is a sensible position, compared to other taxes. However, this rent system creates a sort of lazy landlord, one who cares little about his enviroment. This is why I advocate for royal libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488115031 114378345,114393511,2017-02-26 13:17:14,">>114393172 Just because you mere humans can't compete doesn't mean you won't still reproduce. You won't go extinct (although it would make the world a better place if you did).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488115034 114378345,114393537,2017-02-26 13:17:33,">>114392147 Morrakiu is only really alt right on his Tyrant Fashister channel. His main channel is libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488115053 114378345,114393631,2017-02-26 13:18:38,">>114392643 Land monopoly does not exist as long as there is more than one owner.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488115118 114378345,114393710,2017-02-26 13:19:28,">>114393511 That's why we still see people with horses and buggy's out on the street right? How would an antiquated zoo animal like a normal human have any use in a future economy? There is a supply and demand for genes, and their would get bred out quickly, deprived of resources",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488115168 114378345,114393806,2017-02-26 13:20:31,">>114392147 I listen to Ben Shapiro and Tom Woods, and occasionally Molyneux if he has something interesting to say, but Moly is a bit too partisan for me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488115231 114378345,114393826,2017-02-26 13:20:42,">>114393631 false State land vs. common land The distinction between common property and state property is lost on royal libertarians. Common property is that to which we all have inalienable rights. State property is that which the state actually owns, and can dispose of as it sees fit. For example, a public right of way is literally a right of way. Under principles of common law, nobody, not even the king, could close a traveled road and make it private property. A state maintenance truck, on the other hand, is state property, which can be sold if it no longer suits state purposes. The earth, therefore, and all things therein, are the general property of all mankind, from the immediate gift of the Creator. --William Blackstone It is a royal libertarian notion, and not a classical liberal ideal, to treat land as state property, for if land did not rightfully belong to the state, how could the state have granted it to favored citizens? Classical liberals, not royal libertarians, are the ones who deny the state's right to appropriate the earth and allocate it to privileged individuals on favored terms. Classical liberals also who hold the key to abolishing taxation, by suggesting that the community (not the state) charge a user fee to landholders based on the value of the land.",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,,,US,,1488115242 114378345,114393865,2017-02-26 13:21:07,">>114393710 You do realize youre essentially advocating for forced use of horse and buggies by the government right? Your immense inadequacies wouldnt prevent you from doing as you please, just like the Amish are not prevented from using horse and buggies. But why would you receive special treatment?",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488115267 114378345,114393889,2017-02-26 13:21:27,">>114392528 well im right but i wish joe was actually that libertarian he only wants pot legal while sometimes he criticizes people for taking pills less harmful than alcohol",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1488115287 114378345,114393936,2017-02-26 13:21:49,">>114393413 TY my dear burguer brother! Shadilay",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488115309 114378345,114393967,2017-02-26 13:22:04,">>114393413 Meant to address to: >>114393078",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488115324 114378345,114394029,2017-02-26 13:22:47,">>114393865 I don't give a fuck if it requires force, my objective is the survival of my people and way of life. Economics is a tool to that end, not the other way around",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488115367 114378345,114394033,2017-02-26 13:22:50,">>114392194 i have no idea sorry >>114392443 i dont get it why am i not being consistent",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1488115370 114378345,114394109,2017-02-26 13:23:42,">>114393826 >impelling taxes on the ownership of land Come now.",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488115422 114378345,114394134,2017-02-26 13:23:52,">>114392594 Can you link me to the original Molyneux video that was used to make the Final Argument video? There one where he says ""Perhaps, after tonight, there are no more arguments to be made.""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488115432 114378345,114394194,2017-02-26 13:24:21,"Chris Cantwell is hilarious. https://youtu.be/Ci_G0VNZQi8 https://youtu.be/7Y4PT2lUCWA",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488115461 114378345,114394293,2017-02-26 13:25:30,">>114394029 ok well then youre a luddite and a fascist and you can fuck off. Youre people and your way of life are free to buy a plot of land to fuck off to. Like the Amish. Youre not free to demand special privileges because ""muh essentialism"". Economics is a tool for organizing the optimal distribution of resources in society. Get over yourself.",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488115530 114378345,114394361,2017-02-26 13:26:15,">>114393889 Why are leftleaning-libertarians (like Rogan) advocating the use of drugs more frequent than rightleaning-libertarians (Shapiro, Molymeme), who are actually personally against the use of drugs but obviously still for the legalization of them?",,Anonymous,img_005.jpg,x+3/VDU176drYGm82yuolQ==,DE,,1488115575 114378345,114394440,2017-02-26 13:27:03,"I'm only here to post the only snek picture I have enjoy",,Anonymous,snek.jpg,DnWzC9ub49n7Qmo9BzI0BQ==,FI,,1488115623 114378345,114394457,2017-02-26 13:27:14,">>114394293 So you want to live to see a world where metal and silicone replaces flesh and bone? Where the entire biological ecosystem is subsumed into a transhumanist nightmare scenario? This is the destruction of all biological life. Why would anyone support this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488115634 114378345,114394510,2017-02-26 13:27:47,">>114394134 After the Berkeley riots? Should be this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhHm_xQScE",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488115667 114378345,114394556,2017-02-26 13:28:16,How are you gonna pay for the commie removal squads helicopter fuel when taxation violates the NAP,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488115696 114378345,114394560,2017-02-26 13:28:19,">>114394457 This. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFe9wiDfb0E",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488115699 114378345,114394571,2017-02-26 13:28:27,">>114394361 because teetotalism is the meme of the right and peer pressure is the meme of the left. Leftists will push 'acceptable drugs' becaue their disposition is social, while right wingers will pretend intoxication is a universal evil because some people suffer, and push either prohibition or teetotalism in the case of libertarians. >>114393237 Guys can we discuss?",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488115707 114378345,114394645,2017-02-26 13:29:16,"Why are libertarians such edgelords? Right wing useful idiots.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1488115756 114378345,114394701,2017-02-26 13:29:51,>>114394440,,Anonymous,molyneux.gif,Z6ASogtl5bD3KofoqcycSQ==,DE,,1488115791 114378345,114394800,2017-02-26 13:30:57,">>114394645 Useful idiots? For whom?",,Anonymous,stefargumentload.png,yJ9l2VjxfQ8iOVFiQcv6MQ==,US,,1488115857 114378345,114394829,2017-02-26 13:31:20,">>114393826 The commoners have little incentive to act as the landlord, because they all have their own respective worries and are disunited and divided on the issue of land maintenance.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488115880 114378345,114394901,2017-02-26 13:32:07,">>114393263 Christopher Cantwell, host of the Radical Agenda Podcast, He's Ancap/Hoppe/Alt-Rightish. its a good listen for edgy libertarians.",,Anonymous,Trump.png,44Tjo5DcQI2gm+m8bIuGvA==,US,,1488115927 114378345,114394963,2017-02-26 13:32:54,,,Anonymous,14597446_363919847302099_7114648059224522752_n.jpg,9RxhX4xkeavrq90+eVwHJg==,US,,1488115974 114378345,114394974,2017-02-26 13:32:59,">>114394457 >want never said that. Youre putting words in my mouth. I have virtually no obligation nor right to prevent others from exercising autonomy by force. also a couple things >a holistic system would not be the 'metal and plastic dystopia' you imagine. What is biomechanical engineering for 500 >why is biological life so extra special? Whats your definition of biological I wonder? >I have a retrograde and essentialist view of humanity ergo scientists, developers and the consumers of their products should be killed you sound like a subhuman with a double digit IQ desu. Everything you said was empty rhetoric meant to appeal to my emotions. You did a poor job, dont quit your day job for poetry any time soon. What I prefer is irrelevant",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488115979 114378345,114394982,2017-02-26 13:33:03,">>114394556 The fuel is an investment with a guaranteed profit behind it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488115983 114378345,114395041,2017-02-26 13:33:41,">>114394361 rogan only wants people to use weed and psychedelics and alcohol.. but he literally condemns pills of ANY KIND, including anti depressants which some need https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lAv_JQtF-8 other times he is cool with it though but only when someone talks some sense into him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsquUcea-E and joe also believes in gun control to an excessive degree and mocks the NRA.. he thinks soldiers with any sign of ptsd or a need for anti depressants should be lifetime banned from owning firearms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHd6nAddVY and theres nothing wrong with wishing more people did psychedelics.. its pretty hard to have any kind of discussion about reality or the nature of consciousness if they never have experimented with their own mind in such a way and he thinks that world leaders would make good choices if they took psychs although i think there is evidence that the elites take part in psychedelics quite often and they are literally worshiping satan and are ""psychic vampires"" but yeah joe says that if you dont want to do drugs THEN DONT or if youre mentally unstable then DONT SMOKE WEED idk what youre talking about desu joe isnt promoting weed the way you think he is but my posts are just outlining the FACT that prohibition is HARMFUL TO SOCIETY and hinders drug addicts improving themselves",,Anonymous,0000alex0.jpg,IQ3j6AE8pW81BPbF8Yjv0Q==,FI,,1488116021 114378345,114395188,2017-02-26 13:35:09,">>114394800 For your unregulated corporation wage slave owners. (provided you're not one yourself)",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1488116109 114378345,114395494,2017-02-26 13:38:05,">being libertarian when your race is dying Ayy lmao,good luck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488116285 114378345,114395512,2017-02-26 13:38:15,">>114394571 >teetotalism okay common most right wingers dont have such extreme views and i think your views are a bit radical and i dont understand how in the hell you could call yourself a libertarian if you support fucking prohibition which literlaly ruins peoples lives and exponentially increases the negative impact that drugs have on society",,Anonymous,alex-jones-drunk.png,eft8KaCegZ5BJXkGBR4UDw==,FI,,1488116295 114378345,114395602,2017-02-26 13:39:03,">>114394974 >I have virtually no obligation nor right to prevent others from exercising autonomy by force You have the right to fight for your survival. Who gives a fuck if you cross some artificial boundary you've built in your mind against violence. Violence is wonderful, the taste of blood on your lips and the screams of your enemies. Rather than the root of all evil, it is the soil of civilization. We were born for the battlefield, and to see our enemies cast down before us >why is biological life special Because it's me, my life, my world. This is who I am, and who I want my children to be. I don't need to justify it in some abstract morality, it simply is. Does a lion need to construct moral arguments to justify killing a gazelle? No it just does, because that's what it was born to do, and because that's how it reproduces and survives through the generations. Seriously get yourself some testosterone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWnS1drl2tY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488116343 114378345,114395730,2017-02-26 13:40:11,">>114394510 yup that's the one I'm almost done with the video, pic related",,Anonymous,premiere.png,yN/lb5V0t3MDFYiA8R69yw==,PT,,1488116411 114378345,114395789,2017-02-26 13:40:39,">>114395188 Working for a wage is not slavery. If I am provided an earning opportunity, I can choose to take it or not. You don't need to accept employment to live. A free market doesn't mean an unregulated one, either. Libertarians just have a diff. outlook on reg's than liberals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488116439 114378345,114395853,2017-02-26 13:41:12,">>114395512 reread. Prohibition was in reference to the right wing in general, teetotalism in reference to the libertarian right wingers >okay common most right wingers dont have such extreme views how many people on this site or in the American mainstream right literally ostracize people who use controlled substances, even friends or family members? The modern right for sure values teetotalism",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488116472 114378345,114395883,2017-02-26 13:41:29,">>114395494 Those who use psychological warfare against our race are almost always authoritarians and cultural Marxists.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488116489 114378345,114395926,2017-02-26 13:41:52,">>114389749 I think this really is the crux of what both what ethnonationalism and libertarianism actually are. One's a set of intrasocial values (libertarianism), the other's a doctrine on what actually composes a society in the first place.",,Anonymous,Anti-Communist Action.png,VLaqy2CMgbAL0/OY/oen5A==,US,,1488116512 114378345,114396038,2017-02-26 13:42:49,">>114387895 Because you can be considered ""rich"" too and be stripped of your wealth by a leftie smartass who thinks just like you.",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1488116569 114378345,114396052,2017-02-26 13:42:55,">>114395602 And you will simply be killed by those transhumanists more able than you, and it will be hilarious when your ideology defeats your ends. What youre talking about places no value on humanity. Only on the ability to impel violence, in a regard in which you would be seriously lacking. Im not even a transhumanist but Id buy the upgrade just to crush the skulls of peons like you",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488116575 114378345,114396135,2017-02-26 13:43:44,">>114395494 The concept of ""white identity"" is ahistorical. My ancestors would have never identified with slavs, irish, or Mediterraneans. The alt-right is nigger/spic-level identity politics for white people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488116624 114378345,114396205,2017-02-26 13:44:22,">>114396052 Exactly, that's why we need to not create them doofus Or if we do create them, ensure they serve us and our interests You wouldn't nuke the world, or release a deadly super plague, why are you fine unleashing transhumanist monsters?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488116662 114378345,114396230,2017-02-26 13:44:36,">>114395926 Bingo. Can't have liberty if you're pozzed.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488116676 114378345,114396240,2017-02-26 13:44:42,">>114395494 tighter borders is the only thing white people need and many brown people even muslims are pretty cool and you would know if you werent an autistic basement lurker i fucking hate repeating on here but two of my best friends in school are refugees and LOOK LIKE WHITE MEN.. one guy is from iraq and is a literal ginger with red curly hair AND theyre both super open minded and one is going through a rebellion phase against his parents and islam and the other is a straight up aethiest and theyre both libertarians your supreme race meme needs to die in a fire.. yes white girls are hot, yes white men are on average more intelligent BUT THERE ARE GIANT EXCEPTIONS TO BOTH tons of hot persian women and whatnot and like i said there are a bunch of very cool, smart brown people we just need to indoctrinate these people into western culture and have tighter borders from now on.. your race war meme is just that.. a FUCKING MEME and it will NEVER realistically happen EVER AGAIN theres a better chance of an asteroid hitting earth or all out nuclear obliteration go outside out and talk to people especially the ones you hate so much and get their point of view AND GO SEE A FUCKING PSYCHOLOGIST BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY HURT SOMEONE OR YOURSELF!",,Anonymous,0000000000000000edge.jpg,5IfFLhgEESymhjZX01re9w==,FI,,1488116682 114378345,114396256,2017-02-26 13:44:50,">>114396135 this I dislike the eternal anglo as much as I do chinks or slavs",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488116690 114378345,114396283,2017-02-26 13:45:03,">>114393237 >and to hell with the consequences you filthy commie Corporations should, for their own interest, pay attention to said consequences like pollution. A long-term operating corporation won't benefit to pay extra money to invest in environmental-friendly technique in the short term, that's for sure, but for christsake they are still obligated to decrease their impact on the environment. Customers of the buiness will sooner or later abandon the business relationship with them, if the corporation continues to operate sole for their own cost-benefit. Hypothetically, if a business pollutes a river (which isn't owned by private owners as a whole) does this violate the NAP of everyone who is dependant on the water of the river?",,Anonymous,1477952721401.png,yKLTUEa+eVqrWAY5YYqMSA==,DE,,1488116703 114378345,114396338,2017-02-26 13:45:42,">>114392443 My man. I keep trying to explain LVT to everyone and they look at me like I'm fucking crazy. Even mainstream financial press talks about Georgism through the lens of LVT from time to time. I honestly feel like this is the great synthesis of all economic thought and no one knows it's there.",,Anonymous,Anticom.png,ru1eVLq4tdzEvqF7IXxSvg==,US,,1488116742 114378345,114396369,2017-02-26 13:45:56,"Anarcho capitalism is the childish belief that we should be sitting in our stupid little caves, killing anyone who comes near you, and if anarchocapitalism does happen humanity will cease to move forward and instead just end up a dead species with no society, and no government to stop a rampage of doing horrible things, such as murder, and selling drugs and WMDs. Anarcho communism is even worse, as people will be leveled to the ground by communism, and nobody, no matter how they try, will be able to move up. Also, groups of people will form and start fighting, for whatever change they desire. There also will be no state so the communist disease won't be eforced, and people won't enforce it, because of human nature. And don't say human nature changes, because since the beginning of humanity, evn during nomadic times, bands of people were ruled by leaders. People will also have private property, because agriculture created it. If we go before agriculture, humanity will never go forward, it will just hunt, and go back to the caves every night. We also need government to keep people from doing bad things, and to keep people organized, and instill values on people to keep them united and to stop liberalism from happening. Authoritarian capitalism and nationalism is the best form of government and society ever. Heres dome vaporwave to add the memes. I like vaporwave anyway. Ever heard of Trumpwave? its vaporwave but with trump and alt right stuff in it, best stuff ever.",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,x3g3+9Jl61BUmIK9vxT6mg==,PL,,1488116756 114378345,114396483,2017-02-26 13:47:00,How is AnCap going to ensure women get paid as much as men?,,Anonymous,AR-151019722.jpg,xyATYSV3xnhK44jIwsIgsw==,US,,1488116820 114378345,114396496,2017-02-26 13:47:06,Posting some badges less common badges,,Anonymous,Veteran.png,v0I4+nH3d32fXkSWnaC3hg==,US,,1488116826 114378345,114396528,2017-02-26 13:47:27,,,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1488116847 114378345,114396572,2017-02-26 13:47:53,,,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1488116873 114378345,114396580,2017-02-26 13:47:58,">>114396483 Why do I want to give her the dick so badly?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488116878 114378345,114396625,2017-02-26 13:48:27,">>114395853 well my point is that a lot of people consider alex jones a right wing extremist and even he smokes weed and gets drunk i think most right wingers think >muh berr is just fine and that alcohol, tobacco, and caffiene are exceptions somehow even though taking anti anxiety pills in social situations is much healthier than drinking but they think alcohol has some kind of self limiting mechanism which it does, but its somehow traditional so its ok and now youre even seeing in places like washington and oregon and colorado a view that marijuana is less taboo than drinking which is like a conservative value in those subcultures right and left wing are ever evolving and vary from place to place here in finland right wing means socialism",,Anonymous,000alex.jpg,G16aX99F4IGDwNEVEYfQTQ==,FI,,1488116907 114378345,114396639,2017-02-26 13:48:39,Anarcho-Canadianism. Very Rare,,Anonymous,AnarcoCanadianism.png,PT7LTE19cU1x/SSnjlrcJA==,US,,1488116919 114378345,114396663,2017-02-26 13:48:54,">>114396483 just fine because im not a sexist idiot",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1488116934 114378345,114396704,2017-02-26 13:49:10,,,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,US,,1488116950 114378345,114396720,2017-02-26 13:49:19,">>114396205 ""I would happily kill you for failing to fight for me, bu heres why you should fight for me"" lol no, fuck yourself. I have far more to gain by allowing or encouraging transhumanism than by fighting it. Ignoring its utter inevitability, I have no reason to oppose them besides the realization that my human body would be obsolete and eventually be revamped or forced out of the market into a primitive enclave, which is only a net negative if I refuse to adapt. You seem to hold this view that transhumanists arent people, which is wrong. Is someone with a pacemaker human? A prosthetic leg? Ok now lets say all his limbs are prosthetic, hes got a pacemaker and prosthetic lungs. Lets say his liver too. Where the line, at what point does this person become not human? Oh thats right, its absolutely fucking arbitrary.",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488116959 114378345,114396748,2017-02-26 13:49:35,">>114389168 That logic can work against you too. Any guy who's less wealthy than you can say that he needs these monnies more so pls gib. So basically it turns into a competition of who's more poor and who deservs free gibbs more.",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1488116975 114378345,114396787,2017-02-26 13:49:58,">>114396369 You can build your wall, but not out of text.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488116998 114378345,114396818,2017-02-26 13:50:17,">>114396483 it's not. Ancapistan will be a meritocracy. women have no merits.",,Anonymous,PunksNotRed.png,KVDtOyxxpe5kskjV+69peg==,US,,1488117017 114378345,114396847,2017-02-26 13:50:33,">>114396240 >it was just because of magic that these people have shithole countries",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488117033 114378345,114396886,2017-02-26 13:50:58,">>114396338 i completely agree friend >>114391430",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,,,US,,1488117058 114378345,114396925,2017-02-26 13:51:18,">>114389749 Relevant Article: http://abstractminutiae.com/post/84426693360/why-radical-nationalists-and-libertarians-overlap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488117078 114378345,114396959,2017-02-26 13:51:42,">>114395789 >Working for a wage is not slavery It is when ""le ebil guvernmehnt"" cannot interfere in the way the boss treats his workers and enables him to force them to work like dogs for laughable wages and when he catches the possibility of the worker being unhappy and searching for a better job to fire him. Capitalism is ironically similar to communism. It's a utopia fueled theory. It's just invented for different people.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1488117102 114378345,114397016,2017-02-26 13:52:21,">Not supporting Law and Order >Not supporting civil society >Not supporting ethnic homogeneity >Not supporting strict immigration controls >Not supporting identity politics >Being pro-abortion Lolbertarians are scum",,Anonymous,AC scum.png,yMnTSEKEivcHCDSjbselow==,IE,,1488117141 114378345,114397033,2017-02-26 13:52:29,">>114396369 What's the deal with Poland? seriously? They seem completely uncucked but somehow have subhuman intelligence",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488117149 114378345,114397081,2017-02-26 13:52:52,">>114387895 PIC RELATED NEWS-FLASH YOU ARE ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST 1 PERCENT OF THE WORLD AND VERY WEALTHY IN TERMS OF AMERICA INDEED COMPARED TO THE HOARD OF GHETTOS",,Anonymous,socialism.jpg,S2p7C+YX2wwjiC6uXlzLLA==,FI,,1488117172 114378345,114397089,2017-02-26 13:52:58,">>114395041 >and joe also believes in gun control to an excessive degree and mocks the NRA He said once that he was member of the NRA, dunno which video tho >idk what youre talking about desu joe isnt promoting weed the way you think he is Idk he seems pretty pro-legalization in this video because Crowder said that he doesn't really care about the legalization (said he wasn't for/against it) and Joe ranted in the whole video about tiny/irrelvant facts and wnet really craty about the whole thing, simply because Crowder didn't shared his opinion (but at the same time he wasn't against it). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd0oSNjHf1A >>114395730 Very nice, didn't expected it so fast tb h",,Anonymous,1484973822727.jpg,tZO+vJIKZmyvPr2og6nvCw==,DE,,1488117178 114378345,114397136,2017-02-26 13:53:30,">>114397016 read Hoppe you dingus",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1488117210 114378345,114397195,2017-02-26 13:54:04,">Hoppe - ""Democracy: The God That Failed"" So what should we do? Should we participate in the democracy? Try to make the govt smaller? Or try to convince people it doesn't work and try something different?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488117244 114378345,114397229,2017-02-26 13:54:21,">>114396283 >should not asking about moral imperatives, but effect. Enlightened self interest works, but the degree to which it works is up for debate. Yes obviously it does. Any entity holds strict liability for those actions that hold consequences beyond themselves. >>114396625 Well Im pretty far to the right and of the mind that drugs are good. Im gonna start calling it the Pill Pill. Drugs have been with us since our inception, and using drugs in a social context is a behavior limited to higher intellect creatures. Alcohol is actually natural for Europeans. Our livers are adapted to it. But reefer, tobacco, even cocaine and opium, I would say shouldnt be shunned. But me, you and Alex are probably rare voices in that regard. Also the right wing in Finland are literal NatSoc arent they?",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488117261 114378345,114397238,2017-02-26 13:54:33,">>114396847 ok maybe even 80 percent of black people are literal niggers that doesnt mean we SHOULD BE MEAN TO THE OTHER TWENTY PERCENT!!!! IS NEIL DE GRASS TYSON A FUCKING NIGGER??? COMMON DUDE thats like saying all gun owners are trigger happy pricks",,Anonymous,000000000000edge.jpg,3tXrRbrfENi1220ZPhOOlg==,FI,,1488117273 114378345,114397377,2017-02-26 13:55:51,">>114396369 No, you're wrong > Ever heard of Trumpwave? Yes, thanks for the nice pic. Have one of my collection",,Anonymous,1487463125950.png,SqXigVVCu0j7G7TKHmLhZA==,DE,,1488117351 114378345,114397414,2017-02-26 13:56:14,">>114397195 Anything that prevents leftists getting further power. This is why many libertarian supported Trump because the harm will do would be nothing compared to what Clinton would have down. Democracy is likely to be the system used even it is stupid.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488117374 114378345,114397439,2017-02-26 13:56:30,">>114397136 >Implying Hoppe represents the view of most Libertarians",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1488117390 114378345,114397522,2017-02-26 13:57:25,">>114397439 >moving the goalpost this blatantly",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1488117445 114378345,114397528,2017-02-26 13:57:27,">>114396720 >I have far more to gain by allowing or encouraging transhumanism than by fighting it Yeah extinction is so wonderful, whoopie There's a reason they don't let people with artificial legs into the olympic sprinting events. It's a huge advantage, not natural. The legs were designed to outdo a normal leg. You aren't using technology to keep yourself alive, you are using it to outdo normal people. Libertarianism is fucking retarded, you can go down with this ship or you can move on, it's your choice. It appeals to practically no one, all it's ideological leaders are autistic jews. Hell Murray Rothbard, libertarian hero, was essentially a white nationalist, endorsed David Duke",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488117447 114378345,114397572,2017-02-26 13:57:47,"I met this girl and she's a national socialist, and hates blacks And uses 4chan more than I at first It was sketch but it's all good now",,Pic always related,IMG_0815.jpg,pgNLeX6zYG/SY5Tr1tL9RQ==,US,,1488117467 114378345,114397636,2017-02-26 13:58:24,">>114396959 I despise this meme People dont consent to work for less than they can afford to live on unless they have no choice. Youd have to be literally braindead to think the employer can just compel these conditions on workers without government assistance. Youd have to have literally never been in the workforce and never seen competition for labor. >>114396847 This. Im not a WS/WN personally but its not a coincidence that these peoples countries are hellholes. Corruption and 10-15+ homicide rate per 100k doesnt bubble up out of the ground like a hot spring.",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488117504 114378345,114397934,2017-02-26 14:01:08,">>114397528 Extinction is not bad Earlier humans went extinct in the wake of Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Was that a tragedy too? Are we worse off for being Homo Sapiens Sapiens and not Homo Erectus? The only difference is this time around you get to evolve with everyone else instead of dying like a sick old beast. And for a low low price too, arent you lucky?",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488117668 114378345,114397945,2017-02-26 14:01:16,">>114397016 >Law and Order Law is not order, you paddy. In fact, many laws are so complex, they would cause chaos and disorder if enforced regularly. >Civil Society Does not require a bunch of people given special rights to commit what would otherwise be called violence and robbery. >Ethnic Homogeneity Works itself out. When not socially pressured, people live with other people like them. >Strict Immigration Controls Are only necessary for national defense. Immigration has a documented economic benefit for at least 90% of the public. >Not Supporting Identity Politics Because it's retarded. >Being pro-abortion That's not a libertarian position.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488117676 114378345,114397988,2017-02-26 14:01:43,">>114397636 >Youd have to be literally braindead to think the employer can just compel these conditions on workers without government assistance But this is just the point. Most people are not hyper-rational economically minded market superheroes. Most people are stupid as fuck, and prone to follow the crowd, or do what the TV tells them. This is why leaving the lower classes to the winds of the market is incredbily cruel. These people need to be part of a hierarchical social order, and have leaders directing them and their behavior. It's what they were intended for anyway",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488117703 114378345,114398107,2017-02-26 14:02:54,">>114393237 >Also can we discuss the mechanisms and technical advantages of abolishing the monopoly on minting? We won't have centralbanks which have the ability to raise and lower the interest rate like it's going out of style. This makes the return to the gold standard (or something similiar) necessary, obviously. It's a very reasonable thing to do.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488117774 114378345,114398117,2017-02-26 14:03:01,">>114397934 >Extinction is not bad",,Anonymous,1465748397820.png,NFkugI73xguPZpONNYKAOA==,US,,1488117781 114378345,114398254,2017-02-26 14:04:22,">>114397988 Have you ever worked? If you have worked, you have seen employers compete for labor. How does this not clearly demonstrate to you the ability of people to rationally respond to market forces? Leave aside the fucking ideology for a second, do you know a single person in your life that would be at a job that doesnt meet their needs, and see that same job or a similar one with a different employer that does meet their needs, and just not attempt to acquire that job? If your answer is yes than my answer is fuck em theyre too dumb to live. Virtually indistinguishable from any other competitor for the Darwin Award.",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488117862 114378345,114398310,2017-02-26 14:04:55,">>114397229 yeah SADLY!!!! NAZI FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT omg they want the government to control our fucking personal life and they literally say I HATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH PERSONAL FREEDOM unironically theres a bunch of them on 8ch@n and ive been banned twice for simply arguing FREEDOM and your opinions on drugs are great unless you might have made a typo! Have you tried psychedelics? theres atleast a 50 percent chance they actually let you contact some kind of entitiy and im inclined to believe that because shared hallucinations with my friends and also the fact that most people see ancient hieroglyphs and symbols which carl joung had interesting theories on and there is his book about ancient symbology! I literally saw a hologram shiva in my apartment when i took 2.5 hits of acid once and it was indescribably ""real"" but t here still is a 50 percent chance that its fake i guess. Also I usually take lyrica or gabapentin when i go to drinking parties and just very slowly drink a beer and then i get all the effects that all the drinkers get without the extreme sedation or hangover and there is no reason to put reefer in there with cocaine.. A LOT of people over do it! and think its cool to be stoned all day! But its the best nighttime sleep aid for me at least and something that aids my creativity but i only do it at night when i have everything done for the day! like i said I grew up in a town plagued with heroin and oxycontin and of all my friends that got on subutex they learned to ween of it and then they have a tool to help them ween off in case they relapse and the friends i had that went to rehab and were precribed the AA and NA nonesense that you are powerless over your will to drink or drug.. HALF THOSE GUYS ARE DEAD drugs can be bad but CAN BE GOOD!!!! I think you understand! Freedom and personal agency are my most important values and it hurts that so many resent it! People here are so dumb that they SUPPORT warrantless search and seizure",,Anonymous,000_finnish_girl.jpg,Y3Esm0KTN6BtzOGPWIU5XA==,FI,,1488117895 114378345,114398381,2017-02-26 14:05:48,,,Anonymous,1487885779299.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,PT,,1488117948 114378345,114398523,2017-02-26 14:07:13,">>114398381 >libertarian facism, the best of two worlds",,Anonymous,1487109017713.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,DE,,1488118033 114378345,114398770,2017-02-26 14:09:39,">>114398381 >>114398523",,Anonymous,AnFasces.png,nPDb0IVenvjAIRPrymjXTw==,US,,1488118179 114378345,114398839,2017-02-26 14:10:21,">>114398107 I was thinking along the lines of the technical mechanism of numerous sources of money. Gold backed currency wouldnt be the only primary source in this day and age. Also things like, singular currencies create inflows of wealth into low wealth areas (working essentially like a vacuum) but at the price of debt, and multiple currencies not based on geography but based on investment might alleviate this stark lender/debtor situation through exchange, serving as a filter for capital flow protecting the sum of assets and reducing liabilities for such massive capital flow. >>114398117 Youre being obtuse on purpose and I dont understand why. No one is watching. Earlier humans went extinct in the wake of >Homo Sapiens Sapiens. >Was that a tragedy too? Are we worse off for being Homo Sapiens Sapiens and not Homo Erectus? Extinction is not a net negative. And you wouldnt go extinct. No human would go extinct, just the obsolete genes. Why is this so awful? Why do you place such value on one variation of genetic code? On diabetes? On Spinal Atrophy? Muscular Dystrophy? Metabolic Protein Deficiencies? Explain.",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488118221 114378345,114398846,2017-02-26 14:10:25,">>114392147 Styx is libertarian, he says it in basically every video",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1488118225 114378345,114399009,2017-02-26 14:12:00,">>114383414 The Grass in this pic makes no Fucking sense, pure fagotry",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488118320 114378345,114399011,2017-02-26 14:12:00,Okay guys I've finished the video. How do I bring it to you? Don't feel like creating a JewTube account,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488118320 114378345,114399123,2017-02-26 14:13:08,">>114399011 you don't have a straight up jewgle account without your info attached to it? you might have to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488118388 114378345,114399152,2017-02-26 14:13:28,">>114398310 Im not a big ""psychedelics open your mind guy"" Had shrooms a couple times, ate an 1/8th each time had swell visuals. Dropped acid a fair bit, last time was like over a year ago though, and I dropped I think 800 micrograms. Quite the night. desu addiction is for the weak. You make a conscious decision to acquire and use a drug, addiction can only be indulged by the willing.",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488118408 114378345,114399229,2017-02-26 14:14:05,,,Anonymous,ancap culture.jpg,q3WrUe/FYfIVNQAubgjenA==,AU,,1488118445 114378345,114399298,2017-02-26 14:14:44,">>114398523 how does that work?! the best system would be if there was some kind of benevolent dictator that just forced people to be free forever! the worst part of democracy is that even if we get a good guy in office they still face re election and dissolution of their values.. its sucks to because when people get dissatisfied with the economy or their lives they just want the opposite no matter what the founding fathers did good because they hated eachother so much and argued so much that they realized the only thing they could agree on was FREEDOM itself something that I wish europes leaders would fucking realize and get the fuck out of the EU and also something which i wish TRUMP would realize and change the US system to favor freedom more!!! Its pretty fucking ironic that now conservatism is more classically liberal and inching towards libertarianism and the ""liberals"" have made liberal mean liberty for the government to pass laws intended to control them but disguised as social progress!!!!",,Anonymous,1481487282443.jpg,VduPS4R3rC4H/w3i5AOJog==,FI,,1488118484 114378345,114399334,2017-02-26 14:15:04,">>114397945 >Law is not order, you paddy. In fact, many laws are so complex, they would cause chaos and disorder if enforced regularly. You know what I meant, yet you chose to misrepresent anyway. Law and Order is strict punishments for crime. >Works itself out. When not socially pressured, people live with other people like them. Not on a nation-wide scale, though >Because it's retarded. It's basic human tribalism, and thus inescapable. Embrace it. >That's not a libertarian position. Freedom to choose isn't a Libertarian position?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1488118504 114378345,114399343,2017-02-26 14:15:08,">>114392147 >thunderfoot and le banana fucker >/pol/ approved No",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488118508 114378345,114399366,2017-02-26 14:15:22,">>114399123 Isn't there some video hosting website I can send this to? Someone send this to Hoppean Snake Memes",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488118522 114378345,114399470,2017-02-26 14:16:27,">>114399009 Does this serve your taste consumer?",,Anonymous,Flag.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,US,,1488118587 114378345,114399697,2017-02-26 14:18:28,">>114399366 want me to make a throwaway you can possibly email, send a dropbox link or somthing to so i can upload?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488118708 114378345,114399870,2017-02-26 14:20:09,">>114399298 Its not really ironic that American Conservatism is Liberal. It only stopped being so in like the 80's because of the monopoly that Evangelicals had on the Republican party. Literally the SJWs of the American right. America is based on Liberalism, thus CONSERVING American values would be CONSERVING LIBERALISM. Ergo conservative liberalism.",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488118809 114378345,114400030,2017-02-26 14:21:33,">>114399366 you can send it to hhhphysicalremoval@gmail.com you may need to upload it to another site if its too big tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488118893 114378345,114400182,2017-02-26 14:23:08,">>114398839 >Earlier humans went extinct in the wake of >Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Yeah, but did they want to? They went extinct because they lost. Nobody wants to go extinct, everyone fights like hell not to You are pretending that you are outside the system, looking down from above and deciding what the most efficient allocation of resources should be. But you are not, you are in the system. You should fight for your people and their way of life. If you lose you lose, if you win you win. >Why is humans going extinct awful Holy fuck man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488118988 114378345,114400197,2017-02-26 14:23:17,">>114399697 >>114400030 Are you the HSM admin? Let me just add an image to the video, render it and then I'll link it to you. I was thinking about uploading it to vidme.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488118997 114378345,114400419,2017-02-26 14:25:21,">>114400197 sorry I don't know what the fuck HSM is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488119121 114378345,114400446,2017-02-26 14:25:36,">>114378345 So you are cool with Fascists being on this board but not communists? Fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488119136 114378345,114400616,2017-02-26 14:27:31,">>114399152 well addiction has a way of sneaking up on the best of us.. and most of the people i know who got addicted were when we were SUPER YOUNG like 13, 14, 15 and a lot of them were instructed by doctors to take pills like adderall everyday when they were like 8 years old or i have a friend whos mom is a psychiatrist and took him to the doctor and got him on gabapentin everyday when he was 14!! And in my town were smoking oxycontin at 15 years old and thought it wasnt bad for us so its hard to blame kids for making bad choices! But the good news is that subutex is a miracle drug and so is kratom and the people i know that took it have jobs and families and a life! The bad news is the rehab industry has demonized opiate replacement therapy with the likes of DR DREW's ignorant ass on tv saying its as bad as heroin EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT GET THE USER HIGH BECAUSE OF THE CEILING EFFECT AND TOLERANCE! Those ignorant authoritarian assholes! On another note I dont think doctors should have the right to control medications UNLESS its antibiotics which can gain resistance or even (gasp) vaccines because of herd immunity but the later is controversial! My mom is a clinician and she just went to school to get the power of prescription and she thinks the average joe is some kind of idiot without google that shouldnt have access to heart medication without consulting her or even blood pressure medication although she googles a lot at her job herself! Yeah acid is pretty intense.. ive found that combining it with opiates is best for taking the edge off lol.. I call it brain cringe at the end of an acid trip after you brain has processed so much info and released so many neurotransmitters.. but the effects of psychedelics has taken me from a shitty amateur artist to a mediocre amateur artist in a short amount of time.. im too scared to do DMT at the moment but everything ive heard and read points to the fact that it lets you glimpse ""the other side"" in full actuality!",,Anonymous,alex_hot_tub.jpg,QGEPYlRWNkLCD/di+O3osw==,FI,,1488119251 114378345,114400658,2017-02-26 14:27:52,">>114380698 Physical removal > Constitution",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488119272 114378345,114400775,2017-02-26 14:29:05,">>114400446 Commies are invaders and need to be removed. Fashies can stay, they are a sort of last stand of implicit /pol/ identity.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488119345 114378345,114400991,2017-02-26 14:31:12,">>114400182 EXCEPT YOU HAVE THE CHOICE TO NOT GO EXTINCT. FFS You really think passing laws and kill researchers will stop transhumanism? Do you honestly believe that? Pic related its people who believed the same shit. Do you think they if those species could see ahead into the future and choose to be Homo Sapiens Sapiens, they would have chosen oblivion instead? Dont be fucking absurd. >If you lose you lose, if you win you win You dont win. Theres no reality in which you win this fight. And lets pretend you do. You wont, but we'll take a trip to fantasty land where you beat people who are smarter, faster, stronger and more numerous than you. Well take that jaunt. You stop transhumanism, and instead its AI which takes the lead. Because unlike transhumanism, robotics doesnt need societal acceptance or support. One man could cross the event horizon. So winning would be actually worse than losing. Youre ignorant and childish.",,Apermitic,1409640811744215.jpg,L9JH3mbdy2/cNkwWr3DCqA==,US,,1488119472 114378345,114401239,2017-02-26 14:33:40,">>114399334 >You know what I meant, yet you chose to misrepresent anyway. Law and Order is strict punishments for crime. The fact that property and person should be protected says nothing about how strict the punishment for violating them should be. Therefore I don't see ""tough-on-crime"" as necessarily non-libertarian. >Not on a nation-wide scale, though Sure, but from what I've heard about WN's, they would rather live in smaller ethnic communities/enclaves anyways. >Freedom to choose isn't a Libertarian position? Babies, born or unborn, have rights too. There are both Pro-life and pro-choice libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488119620 114378345,114401417,2017-02-26 14:35:17,,,Anonymous,C3FDJRWVMAA_qYv.jpg,mwH8f19uzbVz0Mo1HjQrhQ==,US,,1488119717 114378345,114401560,2017-02-26 14:36:33,">>114400419 Hoppean Snake Memes.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488119793 114378345,114401590,2017-02-26 14:36:51,"I will make a new thread when this one maxes out, look out for it it you want to keep this train going.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488119811 114378345,114401748,2017-02-26 14:38:28,">>114399334 >Freedom to choose isn't a Libertarian position? freedom to choose to kill is not a choice you get >Not on a nation-wide scale, though disagree. Its been government intervention that caused the opposite. Integration at gun point. Blacks voluntaril self segregate now. So do whites. Even the people who pretend they believe otherwise self segregate into monoethnic communities. >Law and Order is strict punishments for crime. >implying I wont shoot people who threaten my property or life",,Apermitic,,,US,,1488119908 114378345,114401757,2017-02-26 14:38:33,">>114401560 ah i see. no I am not the hsm admin.",,Anonymous,snek (9).png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1488119913 114378345,114401791,2017-02-26 14:38:54,">>114401590 Okay. I'm just about finishing the video. Will post it on the other thread if everything is okay.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488119934 114378345,114401897,2017-02-26 14:39:42,">>114401791 right on.",,Anonymous,1488084289049.jpg,DIPClpab/CrLjGN4Z4d97w==,US,,1488119982 114378345,114402309,2017-02-26 14:43:27,">>114399870 YES EXACTLY! NICELY WORDED AND FUCKING SAVED ANON! on a side note do you think Alex Jones is liberal enough to be considered a true libertarian?? Ive heard him say some stuff to the contrary like women not having sovereignty with regards to abortion; my opinion being that once a fetus can survive outside the womb then it becomes moral murky water. Also his views on drugs has evolved from telling people to watch out for ""weaponized weed"" that was government bred to make people stupid.. aka G13 which ive had and was actually some of the best weed ive ever had.. or actually it was a cross between G13 and something else i forget but the strain was called ""GRUNGE"" and it was just a hyrbid that was super strong lol and exactly the kind of ""weaponized"" weed im looking for! But I give Alex an excuse for being ignorant on that topic as he is known to not be 100 percent right anyway, is known to be paranoid and used exageration and hyperbole. But he gained cred for me because HE GOT STONED AS FUCK on rogan's 911 episode lol! But now he only supports decriminalization of drugs as a whole, even marijuana possibly.. but he thinks that there should some kind of government quality control which means it should be quasi legal... i think . Anyway he is pretty libertarian and does not want to criminalize half the fucking country but i am sure he is misinformed or uninformed on topics like opiate addiction.. What do you guys think about vaccination? That is a huge topic. There is evidence that it can be harmful!. When i was vaxxed against HEP B i had the worst fever in all my life at like 103 degrees or something when i was 8 years old and it did not do permanent damage but I could see how a child could have long term effect from a bad immune response! The other side is HERD IMMUNITY, a giant factor and there were many more deaths because of disease before mandatory vaccination in schools! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3i_BhGa1vM love when he wipes his mouth lol!",,Anonymous,alex_stoned_jones.jpg,OMBoY07paDFHLRCb0f9jNA==,FI,,1488120207 114378345,114402370,2017-02-26 14:44:08,">>114396483 Only if they do the same amount of work.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1488120248 114378345,114403269,2017-02-26 14:52:11,">>114397572 its weird.. all the girls ive met in finland are more ""woke"" or red pilled than all the guys ive met but that might just be because of the way people are attracted to eachother but yeah a lot of the girls are racist here in finland which is kind of bad but its refreshing because when i was in the states all the girls i knew craved BBC.. so im kind of conflicted i think that girls are literally attracted to what they like so its hard to find a girl that is not prejudice towards other races but still craves white dick more than anything else... also girls here have some crazy styles right off of /fa.. and white and black stripes are like a meme to theme from marimekko",,Anonymous,fa_finnish_girl.jpg,amXk7sMQKj+ZaBuP+KLV2A==,FI,,1488120731 114403465,114403465,2017-02-26 14:53:55,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY LAST THREAD IS KILL",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Banner.png,nYdagc4xxLqNBLQdxrNn3g==,US,,1488120835 114403465,114403532,2017-02-26 14:54:25,,,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1488120865 114403465,114403600,2017-02-26 14:55:01,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1488120901 114403465,114404060,2017-02-26 14:59:09,">>114403465 I think global companys must be fought against and the ideal form of life is federational tribalism witch means that people live in tribes of 120 people and come together as a nation for the sake of war and unity now and then. Am I cool?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488121149 114403465,114404073,2017-02-26 14:59:16,,,Anonymous,main-qimg-288873cc89a13863e033612543f2eda2-c.jpg,bnLstCisVVeFMAEG8xV1aw==,US,,1488121156 114403465,114404079,2017-02-26 14:59:18,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1488121158 114403465,114404107,2017-02-26 14:59:41,,,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1488121181 114403465,114404143,2017-02-26 15:00:01,,,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1488121201 114403465,114404193,2017-02-26 15:00:22,,,Anonymous,1487039083508.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,PT,,1488121222 114403465,114404208,2017-02-26 15:00:26,">>114403465 >people with braindamage thread FTFY",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488121226 114403465,114404258,2017-02-26 15:00:53,,,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1488121253 114403465,114404329,2017-02-26 15:01:19,>>114404208,,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1488121279 114403465,114404345,2017-02-26 15:01:28,">>114403465 >libertarian >right Pick one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488121288 114403465,114404376,2017-02-26 15:01:43,,,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1488121303 114403465,114404415,2017-02-26 15:02:06,>>114404345,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1488121326 114403465,114404461,2017-02-26 15:02:31,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1488121351 114403465,114404495,2017-02-26 15:02:44,">>114404060 fight global companies? How so? also how do you plan on making the tribes come together as a nation?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488121364 114403465,114404528,2017-02-26 15:03:06,,,Anonymous,ancap-reality.png,Ruqm7TnYqdeMh9WiZgXvSg==,US,,1488121386 114403465,114404649,2017-02-26 15:04:06,Any word on Portubro's video production?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488121446 114403465,114404715,2017-02-26 15:04:48,">>114404415 >this is why libertarianism failed >lets keep being libertarians though lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488121488 114403465,114405086,2017-02-26 15:08:03,,,Anonymous,Natalia rly.jpg,Fl4cJNA2rHkJ9nG105MXSw==,SI,,1488121683 114403465,114405255,2017-02-26 15:09:29,">>114404649 It's fucking done. Uploading it right now to Vidme. Tell me, how do you make the title font for it be like those Japanese anime remix videos where you have bullet points, Japanese letters and bold lettering? >>114404715 those fags at the LP are false flagging shills",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488121769 114403465,114405393,2017-02-26 15:10:44,">>114404715 the point of that quote is that these people who believe they could smiply do whatever they want and be sucessful were not really libertarians and mislead many to believe that this was the concept of libertarianism >>114405255 fuck yeah",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488121844 114403465,114405582,2017-02-26 15:12:26,">>114405393 Tldr of the purpose of libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488121946 114403465,114405723,2017-02-26 15:13:38,">>114404495 for common goals. It would be only temporal and the tribes must be sovereign. Global companys have to much power.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488122018 114403465,114405736,2017-02-26 15:13:42,">>114405393 do you know how to make the title look like the ""It's all in your head"" part of the info section? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssn7SzhRNzQ",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488122022 114403465,114405934,2017-02-26 15:15:27,">>114405736 shit sorry man, I haven't done video uploading in a long time. i wouldn't know.",,Anonymous,snek (10).png,aXlAl2u5gEzAo6UIS0BxZg==,US,,1488122127 114403465,114406210,2017-02-26 15:18:03,">>114405934 https://lingojam.com/VaporwaveTextGenerator found it",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488122283 114403465,114406212,2017-02-26 15:18:04,">>114405736 Didn't find that lettering. Only this one: https://lingojam.com/VaporwaveTextGenerator",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488122284 114403465,114406251,2017-02-26 15:18:24,">>114406210 lol",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488122304 114403465,114406281,2017-02-26 15:18:42,>>114403465,,Anonymous,ancap01.png,r+aVkcWI4YVVtNx29VvyeQ==,GB,,1488122322 114403465,114406314,2017-02-26 15:19:00,">>114405393 If that's the case then it can't be salvaged, come up with a new term.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488122340 114403465,114406680,2017-02-26 15:22:16,">>114406314 Leftist faggots will do this shit forever, they infect everything. If you never take a stand for your ideas they will claim to be you and erradicate you. SAY IT LOUD AND PROUD AND TELL THEM TO FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEE [ this poster was physically removed ]",,Anonymous,Flag.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,US,,1488122536 114403465,114406819,2017-02-26 15:23:46,">>114406251 kek",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1488122626 114403465,114407077,2017-02-26 15:25:49,">>114406680 Liberty is not an idea worth standing for though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488122749 114403465,114407405,2017-02-26 15:28:44,">>114403465 Hey bros",,Anonymous,image.jpg,pq80o3jzh+j64iQnoawXtw==,FR,,1488122924 114403465,114407425,2017-02-26 15:28:56,">>114407077 Well that's like, your opinion roadcuck.",,Anonymous,1477741770885.jpg,+a5bgTX1QX7YiaShinxAGw==,US,,1488122936 114403465,114407673,2017-02-26 15:31:08,">>114407405 Nice, saved",,Anonymous,people.png,cO3uTr9qgeiA+5aJT7Y+lQ==,US,,1488123068 114403465,114407703,2017-02-26 15:31:18,"https://vid.me/D82N https://vid.me/D82N https://vid.me/D82N H•O•P•P•E•W•A•V•E— 物理的除去 HELICOPTER (RWDS https://vid.me/D82N https://vid.me/D82N https://vid.me/D82N H•O•P•P•E•W•A•V•E— 物理的除去 HELICOPTER (RWDS now get this shit to Brent AnCap and to Hoppean Snake Memes!",,Anonymous,hoppe physical removal-min.png,xWbOH+078M65hA7wPGUoXQ==,PT,,1488123078 114403465,114407709,2017-02-26 15:31:22,">>114403465 Daily reminder than an-cap is fucking retarded and any Libertarian that thinks open borders is a good idea to facilitate the transfer of human (((capital))) doesn't understand economics beyond basic micro.",,Anonymous,fag.jpg,lUDfKIJ+NTioagGwClyazQ==,US,,1488123082 114403465,114407711,2017-02-26 15:31:23,">>114407405 Can somebody explain this meme to me?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1488123083 114403465,114407845,2017-02-26 15:32:20,">>114407709 Of course, how could they? They are teenagers who have a parental problem. >""you don't get it mom. like duh free market is always good even when it hurts domestic wages and domestic producers.""",,Anonymous,fag2.jpg,6aCws7LJIDb9RE+EXbtnmA==,US,,1488123140 114403465,114407896,2017-02-26 15:32:42,">>114407703 OH god yes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123162 114403465,114407978,2017-02-26 15:33:28,">>114407425 There's no such thing as a general, abstract liberty. There are only liberties that people are afforded according to their station in life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123208 114403465,114408006,2017-02-26 15:33:40,">>114407845 Well said, anon. Lulzertarians don't understand shit. Even Hayek refused to call himself a libertarian because they are literally THAT retarded; especially American ones.",,Anonymous,1479069950136.png,M+AGXJBlv9Vebk1GmWGKBA==,US,,1488123220 114403465,114408130,2017-02-26 15:34:45,">>114407709 >>114407845 >>114408006 Ancaps are not for open borders faggot. We are for private borders. anyone who says anything else is not ancap.",,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,f47hZMm0mKVR2pax4j+zSw==,US,,1488123285 114403465,114408144,2017-02-26 15:34:50,how would you deal with monopolies?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488123290 114403465,114408156,2017-02-26 15:34:56,">>114408006 >muh natural property rights >meanwhile lulzertarians benefit from the direct government judicial system which legitimizes property rights and facilitates the property exchange and real estate markets They don't understand shit.",,Anonymous,1470866020767.jpg,wmqikkl2vfQI+pWxtCyz7A==,US,,1488123296 114403465,114408210,2017-02-26 15:35:24,">>114408144 there are no monopolies without a state",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488123324 114403465,114408221,2017-02-26 15:35:29,">>114407703 Fucking top-tier my friend.",,Anonymous,1468991300176.jpg,mrTdgRnI4FYLT6FPCRBtYg==,PT,,1488123329 114403465,114408295,2017-02-26 15:36:14,">>114408221 t-thanks! :3",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1488123374 114403465,114408299,2017-02-26 15:36:18,">>114408210 how so?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488123378 114403465,114408465,2017-02-26 15:37:33,">>114408130 >muh no true Scotsman fallacy. Why can't you ancap/lulzertarian fag types accept classical liberalism à la 1776 is far superior to your stupid ideology >mfw there were 99% tariffs in the early days of the USA to foster and protect domestic industry",,Anonymous,1468074404400.jpg,T77mi20SEpQ2eMDtb8ggBg==,US,,1488123453 114403465,114408471,2017-02-26 15:37:36,">>114407703 Very nice",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488123456 114403465,114408478,2017-02-26 15:37:38,">>114407709 >>114407845 >>114408006 >samefagging",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123458 114403465,114408485,2017-02-26 15:37:41,">>114408156 >government judicial system which legitimizes property rights PPPPAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHA look up civil asset forfeiture, the state is the opposite of legitimizing property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123461 114403465,114408596,2017-02-26 15:38:39,">>114403465 Nah. If you're not a pacifist you're a nigger and should off yourself. >b-but then there would be a higher percentage of commies in the world relative to the total human population Good - Armageddon can't possibly come soon enough.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1488123519 114403465,114408607,2017-02-26 15:38:42,">>114407703 fucking nice, gj dude",,Anonymous,1486267605945.png,/I4WtTg7Imy8imP+VrlT3w==,DE,,1488123522 114403465,114408721,2017-02-26 15:39:36,">>114408465 if you advocate against private property you are not ancap, this is not a fallacy but a fundamental definition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123576 114403465,114408780,2017-02-26 15:40:15,">>114408465 Being a ancap is Being pro private discrimination ergo pic related solves your problem",,Anonymous,image.jpg,U6w3UjJQVUummU4WjvbSHA==,FR,,1488123615 114403465,114408781,2017-02-26 15:40:16,">>114408465 >guys this tumors not so bad because it started out small and we can make laws against it growing >guys we underestimated the jews ability to grow tumors",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123616 114403465,114408805,2017-02-26 15:40:29,">>114408485 There is a difference between possession and property nigger. You know the deed to your house (of course you don't, how could you? You're a teenager living in mummy's basement.) The deed to your house legitimizes that the house is your PROPERTY. You now have legal claim to it and can use legal resources against those who lay a ""natural"" claim to it because you have the deed. The government literally legitimizes property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123629 114403465,114408868,2017-02-26 15:40:57,">>114408299 The state concedes monopoly privileges to itself and to specific private companies by legislating policies which restrict a private entrepreneur from entering a specific line of production. Think minimum wage laws, environmental regulations, safety regulations, health regulations, etc. This artificially lowers the number of competitors in the market and has a tendency to create oligopolies or conglomerates because the small businesses that are created (if they are) later face massive competition from the other firms which have been operating longer than them and whose revenues are high enough for them to pay up the regulations. Monopoly is denial to enter a specific line of production, so having a state (which monopolizes the production line of defense/justice services) is a monopoly itself. And it only concedes even more monopoly privileges through the aforementioned regulations to its closest associates (corporatism).",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1488123657 114403465,114409021,2017-02-26 15:42:10,">>114408805 >there is a difference between possession and property Only ancoms believes this shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488123730 114403465,114409023,2017-02-26 15:42:12,">>114407896 >>114408471 >>114408607 9000 hours in paint. save it and share it on other threads. It is What Must Be Done.",,Anonymous,physical removal insues.png,vodplgKDngqNlpNR/Uj59A==,PT,,1488123732 114403465,114409064,2017-02-26 15:42:33,">>114405723 >>114404060 You're describing the medieval Commonwealth of Iceland. It's a system that promotes violent feuding and is definitely incompatible with post-industrial civilization, but it does work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123753 114403465,114409144,2017-02-26 15:43:18,">>114407711 I'll try. The guy pictured having a discussion with spongebob is Stephan ""Not an Argument"" Molyneux. The guy host an online philosophy show which aligns with AnCaps on the economics, backs up Trump on the politics, refute God's existence yet support Catholics, because most Atheists are Communists. He's also heavy on the concept that whatever deep flaw or inconsistency you have might stem from parenthood. In this sequence, one makes the reasonable argument that actively fighting Statists, specifically communists, leading to their deaths would be justified, as their known behavior pattern will ultimately cause them to attack you. This, of course, is not something easy to accept, but something Molyneux is actually getting closer and closer to, as he blames libertarian for not going BALLS TO THE WALL. The various faces taken from the show kindof tell how one goes through the process.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488123798 114403465,114409176,2017-02-26 15:43:35,">>114409023 Did you send it to HMS? May I upload it on youtube so to speak?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488123815 114403465,114409197,2017-02-26 15:43:46,">>114408780 I'd rather have the government legitimize separate but equal rather than rely on a bunch of faggots with low IQs to hope they share the same ideology as you. This is literally the problem with you ancap/lulzertarian types; you assume that everyone is just as smart as you, shares your ideology, the marketplace solves everything, etc. Plus there is literally NO morality in pure free market capitalism (and I mean laissez-faire, not ""free market"" as it's thrown around today) and no morality in the ideology (think how it's become a commodity to be ""16 and Pregnant,"" etc.) or just ""hoping"" people will one day see your ideology as the superior ideology.",,Anonymous,1467205691631.jpg,vPaZLIKpThdwvPB5L0EP3A==,US,,1488123826 114403465,114409219,2017-02-26 15:43:59,">>114408805 A piece of paper doesn't legitimize anything at all. What's important is the facts of property relations, which a piece of paper doesn't necessarily represent at all.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1488123839 114403465,114409251,2017-02-26 15:44:10,">>114408805 >I have never heard of civil asset forfeiture or eminent domain and still believe a deed is worth anything ok pal.FYI if you want some real property get some bitcoin. the deeds are backed by uncrackable encryption",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123850 114403465,114409297,2017-02-26 15:44:31,So breeding and torturing cats and dogs all day is A-OK under a libertarian government?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123871 114403465,114409305,2017-02-26 15:44:33,">>114409219 K. Go use that in court then, buddy. Hope it works out for you kek.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123873 114403465,114409401,2017-02-26 15:45:25,">>114409176 Dude, you can do whatever you want. Send it to HSM, Brent Ancap, as you wish! Let the H O P P E W A V E reign!",,Anonymous,1442598-1-L.jpg,D6QRPT+o353ePxUS/VWpMQ==,PT,,1488123925 114403465,114409542,2017-02-26 15:46:32,">>114409251 I own BTC and ETH nigger. I just accept how it is. If there was no government, then, yes, there is natural property. Whoever lays claim and can maintain it; it is theirs. However, there is a government of which there is a judicial system. Your property is legitimized now not only by claim but by deed as well which you can use in court.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488123992 114403465,114409550,2017-02-26 15:46:40,">>114409144 Of course, Molymeme's current argument is that you should shun from your life people who supports taxation, that you should show some consistency for your beliefs. The helicopter thing is still a few steps further the road, when you realize there is no negotiating with the likes of BLM and Feminazis. Then again, he really, really, really wish for a peaceful resolution: He only got one daughter, is a survivor of cancer and he knows would society fall into Chaos, he might not be there, or not be able, to protect her.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488124000 114403465,114409621,2017-02-26 15:47:13,">>114407703 Post more hoppewave. Stormfags and their shitty fashwave can't compete. Synthwave is exclusively libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488124033 114403465,114409634,2017-02-26 15:47:19,">>114409305 All you're asserting there is ""rule by the sword"". If what courts/law enforcement is legitimate - which you just implied - only by virtue of their willingness and capability to inflict violence on people who don't obey their dictates, then anything anyone can possibly get away with is ""legitimate"" by the same token. Grats. Brilliant ""philosophy"" there.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1488124039 114403465,114409651,2017-02-26 15:47:26,">>114407703 so deep",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1488124046 114403465,114409690,2017-02-26 15:47:42,">>114409401 A new age has begun, an age of liberty as a matter of fact.",,Anonymous,1488123266227.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,DE,,1488124062 114403465,114409764,2017-02-26 15:48:19,">>114409197 >there is no morality in the ideology >litterally the ideology that justify itself by the morals",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488124099 114403465,114409778,2017-02-26 15:48:28,">>114409621 This is the first one I've ever done and it was fucking exhausting. I'm done for now. If I have the time and inspiration I'll make another one. In the meantime, you guys share this one and carry on the torch. You have full rights to this video, fuck IP.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488124108 114403465,114409871,2017-02-26 15:49:17,>>114409690,,Anonymous,1484256248330.jpg,Grw9oJ1492NpHa45Q6f97g==,PT,,1488124157 114403465,114409896,2017-02-26 15:49:29,Wouldn't out of control Capitalism simply destroy all the environment/forests/lakes etc. ?,,Anonymous,,,LV,,1488124169 114403465,114409903,2017-02-26 15:49:33,">>114403465 >attempt to normalize AnarchoCapitalism Kielbasa yourself",,Anonymous,gallows.png,VtFftkKZKQLYY+3Bppv75Q==,US,,1488124173 114403465,114409921,2017-02-26 15:49:43,">>114409144 >Molyneux is actually getting closer and closer to Nonsense. He recently made a video titled Free speech is all that matters. And I agree with him. That meme is just morons trying to subvert larping Nazis on this site to libertarianism. But all that happens is those idiots say ""Oh I can kill people for talking shit under libertarianism? Cool!""",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488124183 114403465,114409974,2017-02-26 15:50:12,>>114409871,,Anonymous,1293623-1.jpg,zGDxaE9nc/zJabg+7ToANQ==,PT,,1488124212 114403465,114409987,2017-02-26 15:50:19,">>114403465 JOIN ANTICOM BROTHERS discord: https://discord.gg/9G2AJ",,Anonymous,C32BbzvWcAImrAT.png,w2uaC+YkHjFH2ikohe9PRQ==,US,,1488124219 114403465,114409992,2017-02-26 15:50:21,">>114409690 They thought it was over It will never be",,Anonymous,image.jpg,CjpmJ2F6YRccFa1VTbT+cw==,FR,,1488124221 114403465,114410127,2017-02-26 15:51:23,">>114409903 I will continue my crusade. The people will know HOPPE WAS RIGHT.",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1488124283 114403465,114410137,2017-02-26 15:51:34,">>114409634 No. I'm asserting that the legal system legitimizes your property. That's all. >Grats. Brilliant ""philosophy"" there. Not my ideology. Just reality. You lot need to be more pragmatic. We can talk philosophy, ideology, etc. all day. But the fact is this. I can't lay claim to your home. I need your deed for it to be legitimate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488124294 114403465,114410170,2017-02-26 15:51:49,">>114409634 Without a court system, how would you enforce property rights? The only possibility is ""might makes right"" - whoever can take something has the right to own that thing, until someone else takes it from him. Without courts, any other system is unenforceable at best.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488124309 114403465,114410236,2017-02-26 15:52:22,">>114409921 He also made a video where he was losing faith, and asking whether the time for words was gone, and the time to fight had come. He also made a video where he blamed libertarian for not going balls to the wall. ""Leftists are gonna left, it's not their fault, it's who they are. The problem is that libertarian won't fight for their convictions.""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488124342 114403465,114410352,2017-02-26 15:53:17,">>114409921 >letting Jews undermine your traditions and culture in the media is all that matters",,Anonymous,a03.jpg,E3dluyFeT0F8zDxxaiPjng==,US,,1488124397 114403465,114410591,2017-02-26 15:55:09,">>114410236 That was after the riots. Destruction of property is different than just talking.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488124509 114403465,114410706,2017-02-26 15:56:02,">>114409871 It will be on yt soon, I also send a DM with the vidme link to HMS. Where's another good place to share this masterpiece?",,Anonymous,img_005.jpg,x+3/VDU176drYGm82yuolQ==,DE,,1488124562 114403465,114410708,2017-02-26 15:56:03,">>114410137 No, that's not what you said. What you said was ""lol good luck with that"". As if whether or not other people used violence against me had any bearing on legitimacy at all. I think what you write down on paper is utterly and completely irrelevant to what actually legitimizes something, and you've provided ZERO reason for me to hold otherwise except that you support people using violence against me should I disagree. That's rule by the sword - meaning you're actually a nigger.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1488124563 114403465,114410799,2017-02-26 15:56:49,">>114410170 Dispute resolution organizations would enforce contracts https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/10/stefan-molyneux/the-stateless-society-an-examination-of-alternatives/ lower on this page has an explanation of DROs.",,Anonymous,1485100431692.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,US,,1488124609 114403465,114410815,2017-02-26 15:57:00,">>114410352 >Implement hate speech laws >penalty is death >spreading communism means death >YAAAY >spreading nazism means death >law works retroactively >congrats you're fucking dead now",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488124620 114403465,114410858,2017-02-26 15:57:16,">>114410170 I don't care to enforce property rights, since I leave all matters of justice to the Perfect, Almighty Judge who will never fail in enacting Justice. >The only possibility is ""might makes right"" Malarkey.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1488124636 114403465,114411005,2017-02-26 15:58:29,">>114410706 Send it to Brent Ancap and shill this on Trump generals. Make sure you add a little note saying Physical Removal is within Trump's interest and their interest. But we should spam this indiscriminately on Communist threads. Those people don't deserve civility. Also, don't forget to use the vaporwave font on the YouTube video. Just copy/paste the title in the post I made to that website we were talking about.",,Anonymous,15230612_1266176340114526_7233875354037037143_n.png,43HkqIIJHV1splT2pVo64w==,PT,,1488124709 114403465,114411047,2017-02-26 15:58:51,">>114409974 R A R E",,Anonymous,Hans_Hermann_Hoppe_memeing.jpg,WnHhljWcIZhgLq63GqR1SQ==,US,,1488124731 114403465,114411128,2017-02-26 15:59:33,">>114411047 rarest hoppe",,Anonymous,165276456303-L.jpg,iMELARaPoGIrYTp3aX5wLg==,PT,,1488124773 114403465,114411382,2017-02-26 16:01:40,">>114410815 >muh slippery slope >regulations on free speech are flawed >this is an argument against not having free speech in the first place anon pls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488124900 114403465,114411616,2017-02-26 16:03:46,">>114411128 Looks like he visited the...golden horde",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488125026 114403465,114411617,2017-02-26 16:03:46,">>114410799 >contracts Those are different from property rights. I find some unclaimed land and say ""This is mine."" I build a house on the land and live in it. Then a mobster comes and say ""This is now mine."" I can't fight the mobster because he is a representative of a larger organization and I am not. Who protects my right to my property? Do I have to hire a private militia to drive the mobsters off? Won't they just come back when my contract with the militia expires? >>114410858 Propose an alternative. If people must agree to be held accountable before they can be prosecuted for violating property rights, then there is no actual protection against those who make a career out of doing so.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488125026 114403465,114411717,2017-02-26 16:04:37,">>114411616 he lives in roachland because his wife owns the Karia Princess hotel, where he does his PFS meetings.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488125077 114403465,114411962,2017-02-26 16:06:37,">>114411717 I wonder what he thinks about The Sultan",,Anonymous,Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.png,79OzveYx1k7HH36aDcAVMg==,PT,,1488125197 114403465,114412315,2017-02-26 16:09:25,">>114411617 well if you have claimed property then yes you have to be able defend it. this is a fact of life and the reason states have militarys. you could find a way to defend it yourself, unite with others to defend it or pay somone who will defend it for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488125365 114403465,114412318,2017-02-26 16:09:26,">>114411005 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ I extended the title, if that's okay.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488125366 114403465,114412369,2017-02-26 16:09:52,">>114411962 he probably hates his guts like he hates most politicians. He's actually going to do a lecture this September titled ""Libertarianism and the Alt-Right,"" I'm stoked for it. I wonder if the absolute mad man will disavow it or endorse it.",,Anonymous,physically removed 2.png,sONErO6I9N64VyGp7IkqkQ==,PT,,1488125392 114403465,114412402,2017-02-26 16:10:08,">>114411382 No idea what your garbage post is trying to convey. But know that people actually like having freedom of speech. And it's way more likely that you're the one that's gonna die trying to take it away rather than you getting to larp as Adolf.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488125408 114403465,114412449,2017-02-26 16:10:31,">>114412318 Amazing.",,Anonymous,pMoScCQ.png,S80ERntPUuAi59+rsJ5h6Q==,PT,,1488125431 114403465,114412684,2017-02-26 16:12:21,">>114412369 WEW can't wait. September tho :(",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488125541 114403465,114412909,2017-02-26 16:14:04,">>114412315 >well if you have claimed property then yes you have to be able defend it. That's ""might makes right."" We turn to the courts so we don't have to take up arms every time we're wronged; without courts, we have no recourse but violence. This will naturally result in tribal feuding, as it did in Iceland, where court verdicts were unenforceable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488125644 114403465,114412945,2017-02-26 16:14:20,">>114412449 you did all the work. i bow down in awe of you",,Anonymous,1485105960962.jpg,iqMZNY4ba9KKjLNPdjCcdw==,DE,,1488125660 114403465,114412955,2017-02-26 16:14:23,">>114412684 Time flies my friend. Today I just realized 2015 was two years ago.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488125663 114403465,114413039,2017-02-26 16:15:11,">>114411617 My alternative is to obey God, leaving all matters of judgement and justice to Him - since that's exactly what He tells us to do. >Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. I don't care whether you like that prospect or not, since at the end of your life you'll be judged all the same.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1488125711 114403465,114413095,2017-02-26 16:15:37,">>114412945 Hoppe resurgence will consume this board. Alt-liters, lolbergtarians and unironic communists will suffer in the Great Purge. Can't wait for HSM to see this, he'll have a heart attack",,Anonymous,the family.jpg,pEgr2mcLJaMPJU5Jth4A4g==,PT,,1488125737 114403465,114413121,2017-02-26 16:15:54,">>114412369 I think it would be 50/50 because in a way in his history of men :prospoerity and decline he admitted that whites high average IQ could explain why the industrial revolution happened in Europe first but in another way many alt-righters are authoritarian as fuck (except Cantwell and Jared Taylor)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488125754 114403465,114413400,2017-02-26 16:18:13,">>114412402 >people actually like having freedom of speech A government must rule by the Grace of God or by the will of the people. Your adherence to the latter shows you are a filthy liberal at heart—you can talk about throwing commies out of helicopters all you want but that doesn't change the fact that all you are advocating is classical liberalism combined with Pinochet memes. >libertarian >right What a retarded contradiction",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488125893 114403465,114413454,2017-02-26 16:18:38,">>114412909 Look I don't like might makes right, but regardless of our goverment or lack there of this is the reality we live in. libertarianism is not the solution to human nature. unfortunately violence is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488125918 114403465,114413494,2017-02-26 16:18:53,">>114413121 Absolutely true. I also liked how he first even quoted Jared Diamond and then as his argumentation went on he just went full madman and name-dropped Nicholas Wade, Peter Brimelow, J.P. Rushton, etc. I'm really looking forward to see what he thinks about Trump. Probably a large-mouth buffon but he'll come around because of the physical removal of illegal aliens.",,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1488125933 114403465,114413541,2017-02-26 16:19:15,">>114413095 His fanbase has to see it >also: that pic",,Anonymous,img_049.jpg,RDaYtbOZL3GyG59aNWjqYA==,DE,,1488125955 114403465,114413603,2017-02-26 16:19:46,">>114410591 > That was after the riots. Molyneux is Canadian. Ontarian. From Toronto. It's basically SJW Ground Zero. And money is about to run out here in Canada. Give him a bit of time.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488125986 114403465,114413616,2017-02-26 16:19:54,">>114413095 *screen screeches* >hi,this is me,you are probably wondering How we arrived at this situation",,Anonymous,image.jpg,FDuuUZHj48lxG+5yqcuG9Q==,FR,,1488125994 114403465,114413812,2017-02-26 16:21:41,">>114413400 >you can talk about throwing commies out of helicopters I'm not the one doing that. Which is my entire point. Go back to stormfront. Also don't try to latch yourself to Trump, Le Pen, AfD or anything like that. You're a fucking embarrassment to anyone you come in contact with.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488126101 114403465,114413931,2017-02-26 16:22:50,">>114413454 I also want to add to this that we turn to courts so the state may choose where to put their might. which is a system that can be privately operated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488126170 114403465,114414181,2017-02-26 16:24:46,">>114410708 >I think what you write down on paper is utterly and completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter what you think. That ""peice of paper"" legitimizes your property. Not your feels, not what you think, etc. >you support people using violence against me should I disagree. I didn't say that. In fact, it's the other way round: your way, actually. If there was no legal institution or judicial system then you probably would be killed by an actual nigger. The fact that you can't see this just shows how idiotic you are. It actually doesn't surprise me that you get so triggered like a SJW. I know a few an-caps and they are all like you. All I have to do is mention roads and steam blows out your ears. Why can't you admit a small government with a functioning legal system which legitimizes property rights for the market is better than, ""Hurrrr muh natural property protected by muh gunnnns."" You'd be slain in an instant if a nigger or Muslim came knocking. Anyways, you just proved my point in my original troll posts that you lot are irrational (not as bad as Berniebros or SJWs, but, nevertheless, irrational). You're zealots incapable of realizing a morally good, functioning institution that works on your behalf (legitimizes your property) that then, by extension, allows you to exchange said property on the marketplace. And if you don't think governments organize markets then you're double stupid. Please refer to the following: >Conceptualizing Capitalism by Hodgson >The Fatal Conceit by Hayek Both address this very issue.",,Anonymous,1482087310092.webm,TmVGGzBWznyRDYAc7qSBvA==,US,,1488126286 114403465,114414182,2017-02-26 16:24:46,">>114409144 Thank you friend",,Anonymous,1485633395595.jpg,mjIeC2YuWexANqekUGD8tw==,TR,,1488126286 114403465,114414238,2017-02-26 16:25:11,">>114413616 >>114413616 ""I'm Hans Hoppe, and THIS is my society. I work here with my old ma'am, and my bro, Nick Wade. Everything here has a story... and a price. One thing I've learned after 11 years, you never know what is gonna get flung off that helicopter.""",,Anonymous,hoppe-entrevista.jpg,KKk5MqjqLsjKDwq0MSL34g==,PT,,1488126311 114403465,114414293,2017-02-26 16:25:40,">>114413454 >libertarianism is not the solution to human nature. unfortunately violence is. I agree. That's why I support the existence of a court system with the power to enforce its verdicts; the alternative is the law of the jungle. >>114413931 Replacing it with a private system doesn't fix any of the problems present in the current, public system. It just means that there's no longer a moral obligation to avoid corruption, only a business obligation to hide it. At best, the level of corruption would be the same. Besides that, a private court can't enforce its verdicts on anyone who doesn't agree to be bound. There is no social contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488126340 114403465,114414344,2017-02-26 16:26:04,">>114413603 Laughing at SJWs is better than going full RWDS. How do you think normies would see it if you started beating people in the street. They're the ones you need to convince. And Moly knows it. Everyone even slightly aware of public perception knows it. It's just you fucking morons trying to sabotage your own side.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488126364 114403465,114414503,2017-02-26 16:27:20,">>114414353 >>114414346 HA",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488126440 114403465,114414757,2017-02-26 16:29:16,">>114413812 >Go back to stormfront I'm not even a Nazi you idiot. If you want to defend free speech you should try doing it without slippery slopes and ad homs. I will add however, that if you are that afraid of being associated with Nazis then you are not really that right wing are you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488126556 114403465,114414867,2017-02-26 16:30:10,,,Anonymous,Snek kept you waiting.jpg,s0lJLI+f5UZF0YyqivSrnQ==,US,,1488126610 114403465,114415240,2017-02-26 16:33:29,">>114414293 >I agree. That's why I support the existence of a court system with the power to enforce its verdicts; the alternative is the law of the jungle. I also support a form of court system, but my point is that the existence of a state (or other enforced monoply) does not change the law of the jungle but rather asserts a dictator to the top of the hierarchy that you hope will be moral but ultimately has the power to assert the states might against anyone he pleases. which i think makes things worse in my opinion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488126809 114403465,114415699,2017-02-26 16:37:06,">>114414181 No it doesn't. It's irrelevant to legitimacy. You're an unprincipled nigger who doesn't give a single shit about intellectual rigor and consistency, and would abandon any and all deceitful semblance of pretending you have some sort of spine in order to save your hide. If a mudslime took a gun to your head and said ""convert or die"" you'd comply with him in a heartbeat, because you're walking talking human refuse.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1488127026 114403465,114415871,2017-02-26 16:38:28,">>114414757 Who gives a fuck how ""right wing"" I am? Wtf is wrong with you? And it isn't a slippery slope if I equate what that comic advertises with violence against dissenting opinions. Because that's literally what it is. And I explained my main criticism in the greentext which you haven't addressed at all. What happens when it's someone you don't like that's making the laws? Like Merkel throwing fines around or bongs imprisoning people for not sucking muslim cock. Is that just fine?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488127108 114403465,114415970,2017-02-26 16:39:09,">>114407709 Read and learn faggot",,Anonymous,d86ba47e8a939586f517f80759b3bb4c.jpg,RSPa9Jn3SlunapaBv8rr4Q==,GB,,1488127149 114403465,114416393,2017-02-26 16:42:13,Bump,,Anonymous,CcL_TWeVAAA7bb5.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,GB,,1488127333 114403465,114416838,2017-02-26 16:45:47,">>114415970 Inb4 ""muh you can't stop shitskins invade your property""",,Anonymous,image.jpg,DDyjNbMamup3/EbGlSyvag==,FR,,1488127547 114403465,114417279,2017-02-26 16:49:22,">>114415871 Those laws are made under the pretense that ""hate speech is not free speech"". What I am saying is that free speech shouldn't exist at all—can you not understand the difference? Allow me to illustrate—say the Byzantine empire is restored, with no free speech laws. What this would mean is that any speech that undermines the Emperor, the imperium, as well as the Christian faith—is not allowed. What this would mean is that Jewish subversion of Byzantine culture and traditions is not allowed under any circumstances. And if this so, then one need not worry about the same Jews obtaining power within the Empire and using these same anti-free speech laws against people engaging in anti-Muslim rhetoric. Free speech, along with free trade, is just another Jewish meme. If you are not ready for these red pills, maybe its time to go back to redacted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488127762 114403465,114417393,2017-02-26 16:50:26,">>114415240 The nature of human society means that there will always be some individual or group dictating how things should be. It's better that be a public institution than a private one, since if the state (whether you call it a state or a corporation) is a private institution, then it does not serve the people, but the people serve it. This is the concept behind the Roman term ""res publica,"" which gave us the English word ""republic;"" it's contrasted with a monarchy in the classical sense, where the state is simply the private property of a king and the king may do anything he likes because he's the rightful and legitimate owner of all the land worked by his subjects.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488127826 114403465,114417711,2017-02-26 16:53:01,">>114414503 Yeah I noticed that too kek",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488127981 114403465,114418165,2017-02-26 16:56:38,Crashing this thread with OC ancap memes,,Anonymous,IMG_3761.png,3mqGgmXuDKf3839gCOkLgQ==,US,,1488128198 114403465,114418328,2017-02-26 16:58:06,,,Anonymous,IMG_3760.png,bWxs0lPH9fOBPVqFd1CWIA==,US,,1488128286 114403465,114418507,2017-02-26 16:59:32,">>114418165 /Based/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488128372 114403465,114418694,2017-02-26 17:01:04,">>114418328 >but if you don't give a shit about roads (by implying that roads can't make profits) you will be jailed Yay",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488128464 114403465,114419066,2017-02-26 17:04:10,">>114417279 So instead of trying to educate your society you're just gonna let tptb have absolute power? That's so fucking retarded. I'll dissent however I damn well please. If you want to go with Hoppean ostracism that's fine. But if you try to go with violence you should be met with violence.",,Anonymous,Snek Texas.jpg,xGkFpGdGorgldQ6+p8/2QA==,SI,,1488128650 114403465,114419321,2017-02-26 17:06:08,">>114418694 If everyone had a choice to pay taxes for roads, no one would pay them willingly, whether they give a shit about them or not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488128768 114403465,114419391,2017-02-26 17:06:47,">>114417279 Go read Hoppe's critique of protectionism. And this too http://archive.lewrockwell.com/hoppe/hoppe6.html because Pat Buchanan (as red pilled as he is on immigration and culture) is blue-pilled af on trade.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488128807 114403465,114419599,2017-02-26 17:08:27,">>114419066 Why are you arguing with somebody who thinks that people exist to serve the state? He's either a dimwit who wants to be led around blindly or a psychopath who wants to control other people for the sake of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488128907 114403465,114419761,2017-02-26 17:09:38,">>114416838 Holy moly where is that from?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488128978 114403465,114420132,2017-02-26 17:12:32,">>114418165 >your customers die of mercury poisoning >they take you to a private court",,Anonymous,7e85542bf4679f75fd5d437c58f88597_thinking-smiley-clipart-face-with-question-mark_1093-820.jpg,BdoK+RZImffknj8hDYpnlQ==,US,,1488129152 114403465,114420423,2017-02-26 17:14:53,">>114419321 Toll and Taxis That's all the roads meme is dead",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488129293 114403465,114420963,2017-02-26 17:18:55,">>114419761 It's from the Apartheid era in SA but you can imagine having that with private convenant",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488129535 114403465,114421449,2017-02-26 17:22:37,">>114420963 Indeed that's what I was thinking.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488129757 114403465,114421540,2017-02-26 17:23:23,>bump for private death squads,,Anonymous,JOINorDIE.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,US,,1488129803 114403465,114422150,2017-02-26 17:28:37,wtf gay,,Anonymous,1AmENpT.jpg,P25kFWY8OgImjuXXdFsUsQ==,US,,1488130117 114403465,114422160,2017-02-26 17:28:45,">>114419066 >So instead of trying to educate your society you're just gonna let tptb have absolute power? That's so fucking retarded. Absolute power was the foundation of Western civilization you dolt. Whats the matter with imperium, you want more equality faggot? Instead of upholding the traditional ideal, you'd rather buy into the progressivist meme that education is uplifting to the masses and inferior savages can be made equivalent to the Western patrician through more schooling. Fucking disgusting. >libertarian >right PICK ONE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488130125 114403465,114422607,2017-02-26 17:32:43,">>114422150 >grown men wearing shorts with socks going to the knees Even gayer",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488130363 114403465,114422770,2017-02-26 17:34:02,">>114422150 the only thing the Nazis had going for them was the A E S T H E T I C of the outfits and the architecture. The rest was shit.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488130442 114403465,114423087,2017-02-26 17:36:49,">>114422770 This tbqh, I like Nazi aesthetics but Hitler was an economic retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488130609 114403465,114423186,2017-02-26 17:37:47,,,Anonymous,communist spy.png,ZGIA75579yhg6xAyhnjMrQ==,US,,1488130667 114403465,114423319,2017-02-26 17:38:55,">>114423087 Indeed. They had god-tier taste for architecture and societal standards, but the ways to get there (mass genocide, socialism) were absolutely retarded and irredeemable.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488130735 114403465,114423328,2017-02-26 17:38:57,">>114420423 If you want to stifle easy and efficient transportation.",,Anonymous,IMG_3762.jpg,qQ/30ux7ywkKff/uVGVRUA==,US,,1488130737 114403465,114423405,2017-02-26 17:39:33,">>114417279 >Allow me to illustrate—say the Byzantine empire is restored, with no free speech laws. What this would mean is that any speech that undermines the Emperor, the imperium, as well as the Christian faith—is not allowed. What this would mean is that Jewish subversion of Byzantine culture and traditions is not allowed under any circumstances. And if this so, then one need not worry about the same Jews obtaining power within the Empire and using these same anti-free speech laws against people engaging in anti-Muslim rhetoric. But that happened several times in Byzantine history. Once the Arian heretics had the ear of the Emperor and thus the faithful Orthodox suffered. And then several emperors became involved with iconoclasts and again the faithful suffered.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1488130773 114403465,114423615,2017-02-26 17:41:27,Bump with a collectable snek.,,Anonymous,YouTread.png,C69VYJMTxZKQxpxbdlWT4g==,US,,1488130887 114403465,114423784,2017-02-26 17:42:46,"Haven't posted/visited /pol/ much lately. How are these threads? This week I've listened to: A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline-Hoppe Meltdown- Tom Woods What has the government done to our money- Rothbard (finishing up tonight/tomorrow) Also, started reading: Wealth of Nation- Adam Smith last month, but just purchased Democracy the god that failed and The economics and ethics of private property by Hoppe. So I might read one/both of those before I hop back into Wealth of nations. Which one do I read first, Democracy god that failed, or economics and ethics of private property? Sounds like EEPP is broad collection that touches on everything and might be worth reading first.",,Anonymous,1486491913661.jpg,8gTHSCmk25qsjFmj+iZn5A==,US,,1488130966 114403465,114424095,2017-02-26 17:45:19,Should libertarians participate in the local GOP? There's a lot of locally elected GOP cucks here. Is it worth it?,,Anonymous,LocalGOPDinner.jpg,MdxMX00Pc0fga5zsNafsXg==,US,,1488131119 114403465,114424180,2017-02-26 17:45:57,">>114423405 Well that's why there was great ecumenical councils to sort those things out and condemn them as heresies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488131157 114403465,114424660,2017-02-26 17:49:47,">>114423784 I was reading the democracy PDF but reading fROM a computer for long periods of time was killing me so I ordered a physical copy. From what I've read so far democracy is a great read if you're already into libertarianism and don't need an introduction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488131387 114403465,114424875,2017-02-26 17:51:31,">>114423784 I'm currently reading EEPP. It's much more ""systematic"" (like Hoppe says) and concerned with the philosophical/economical considerations behind the concept of a natural order. I'd say read Democracy if you want the punch to the gut in terms of society, cultural, moral degeneration and immigration issues (viewed from the points of monarchy, democracy and anarcho-capitalism) or read EEPP if you want the foundational basis for ancap. My order was: Democracy, The God That Failed From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline The Great Fiction and now reading EEPP.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488131491 114403465,114424960,2017-02-26 17:52:06,">>114424095 I say so, your enemies will use the state to destroy you so you should use the same means to oppose then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488131526 114403465,114424969,2017-02-26 17:52:12,>>114403465,,Anonymous,helicopterridewithleftwingbuddy.gif,Cogq75hv3P1Hj/hOR+ksPQ==,US,,1488131532 114403465,114424972,2017-02-26 17:52:14,">>114424180 That is very true. Though what happens when they aren't allowed to speak against the emperor, because that would undermine him? Several famous and pious Orthodox saints died in exile because the emperor was obsessed with some fancy new heresy. Conversely, those holy institutions could be corrupted by heretics, suppress loyalists and act against a faithful emperor.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1488131534 114403465,114425019,2017-02-26 17:52:39,"in a country full of liberals and shitskins libertarianism just won't turn out very well if we fix our demographics,then we can talk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488131559 114403465,114425252,2017-02-26 17:54:20,">>114403465 >removal of communist that includes Nat Sock too",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1488131660 114403465,114425521,2017-02-26 17:56:31,">>114425252 eat shit,kike",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488131791 114403465,114425606,2017-02-26 17:57:13,">>114425252 Most ""natsoc"" here only care about white people. I think there is hope for them to change their commie ways if shown the light.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488131833 114403465,114425695,2017-02-26 17:57:53,">>114424972 In a Christian Monarchy, the king or emperor should be willing to listen to the leaders in the clergy. But even Christian Monarchy is not perfect. In the worst case, the Church is blessed with more martyrs. This was the case of St. Maximus the Confessor, who had his tongue cut off and such. But the pope and the emperor later admitted they were wrong IIRC. Sometimes these things have to happen, the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488131873 114403465,114425966,2017-02-26 18:00:02,">>114425695 True enough.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1488132002 114403465,114426157,2017-02-26 18:01:35,"post stateless qts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1492-smM0Sc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKtvQN1KZ1M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIMnIh10po0",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488132095 114403465,114426389,2017-02-26 18:03:41,">>114413039 >My alternative is to obey God, leaving all matters of judgement and justice to Him - since that's exactly what He tells us to do. sounds like you have schizophrenia m8",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1488132221 114403465,114426841,2017-02-26 18:07:22,">>114424960 So what do you do? Volunteer for the GOP? I don't know where to start.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488132442 114403465,114427553,2017-02-26 18:12:35,>>114421540,,Anonymous,1jyfql.jpg,sz+xEJgavTUBWbWEhIs9vQ==,US,,1488132755 114403465,114428240,2017-02-26 18:17:38,>>114427553,,Anonymous,when the private police asks you where you were the night the town communist was found dead floating on the ocean.jpg,3aAie9mBpk9j94NUQkRqEg==,PT,,1488133058 114403465,114428442,2017-02-26 18:19:03,">>114426157 Nice thanks for the links",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488133143 114403465,114428456,2017-02-26 18:19:09,">>114426841 I don't know, my goal for liberty is to isolate and homestead in the woods. I've never thought I could be successful in politics because I'm too edgy to make my views more mainstream. But if that's your mission please find a way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488133149 114403465,114428471,2017-02-26 18:19:18,">>114403465 What's /lrg/ opinion on niggers, and what can be done to remove them from society? What's the libertarian answer to the growing problem of them?",,Anonymous,tmp_13552-1481059630640-1982420024.jpg,REswy0IH1+XTVHXSEliS4w==,US,,1488133158 114403465,114428614,2017-02-26 18:20:37,">>114428471 Only those with jobs will survive, does that serve your purposes?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488133237 114403465,114428656,2017-02-26 18:20:57,">>114428471 Nigger as in race or in violent behaviour?",,Anonymous,1474660266320.png,xUGJNXPJceVkdtfxyGzSpQ==,DE,,1488133257 114403465,114428691,2017-02-26 18:21:14,,,Anonymous,1487276882548.jpg,DMfBC15l8XFQCXjd6L1XHQ==,US,,1488133274 114403465,114428827,2017-02-26 18:22:16,,,Anonymous,1485492567850.png,hTJfnndlJcaJ5HNN7S1OtQ==,US,,1488133336 114403465,114428952,2017-02-26 18:23:19,">>114428471 bad people, regardless of their race, must be physically separated and expelled from a libertarian social order. see pic related",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1488133399 114403465,114429826,2017-02-26 18:29:49,">>114426389 le epic tip jek u r so euphoric xD",,Praceteom,,,US,,1488133789 114403465,114430040,2017-02-26 18:31:26,">>114429826 man walk in and tip fedora",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488133886 114403465,114430770,2017-02-26 18:37:00,">>114424875 >>114424660 going to read both obviously. Just curious which to read first. Think i'll do EEPP first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488134220 114403465,114430773,2017-02-26 18:37:01,">>114428471 Pic related",,Anonymous,image.jpg,9jUwxMSgEujI+F+3PrQpcA==,FR,,1488134221 114403465,114431002,2017-02-26 18:38:55,">>114430770 have fun!",,Anonymous,hoppe reading marx.jpg,+/IrKYKTakiHMx5KRGqqIw==,PT,,1488134335 114403465,114431133,2017-02-26 18:40:05,">>114407673 Wait who's the lad below Pinochet in the benevolent dictator tier?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488134405 114403465,114431141,2017-02-26 18:40:07,">>114428952 I like you portubro, you are my greatest ally in these threads. I appreciate your dedication to principle and not being racially biased. I don't know/care about your ethnicity but I deal with the American nigger daily at my job and from what I see they have zero chance at survival in a meritocracy. I don't wish to discriminate based on race. But honestly IMO they are destined to slavery/discrimination in an ancap society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488134407 114403465,114431235,2017-02-26 18:40:59,">>114431002 Thanks.",,Anonymous,1484246332464.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,US,,1488134459 114403465,114431394,2017-02-26 18:42:22,">>114404258 Why does he have two copies of Bonfire of the Vanities?",,Anonymous,af1.jpg,bcMuVisqwHR4YzhBLNsjig==,US,,1488134542 114403465,114431399,2017-02-26 18:42:23,">>114431141 The beauty of a true meritocracy is, that it would finally prove or disprove racial superiority. If blacks fail to adapt and can't live without gibmedats, they can't blame anyone anymore but themselves. Everybody has equal chances of success.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488134543 114403465,114431523,2017-02-26 18:43:23,">>114431235 kek thanks for posting my oc",,Anonymous,bpap.png,KuqDGVnKr+3cZqBZQqaUnQ==,PT,,1488134603 114403465,114431861,2017-02-26 18:46:19,">>114431133 Lee Kuan Yew. a dictator who ruled singapore. know for bringing the contry ""from third world to first world in a single generation."" a authoritarian dick who did truly great things for his people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488134779 114403465,114432221,2017-02-26 18:49:20,">>114431523 Yeah, remember seeing you around in a few threads in the past. Keep up the good work bro.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488134960 114403465,114432300,2017-02-26 18:49:59,">>114431861 Now Singapore is now one of the smartest, richest most prosperous countries in the world. How much of that do you think is due to LKY's leadership? Also can I have some links to articles n shit about his reign?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488134999 114403465,114432546,2017-02-26 18:52:13,">>114431141 No worries my man. I'm white as a cloud but I'm not racially biased against people. I think it's very easy to see who bad people are immediately if you're walking down the street, regardless of their race. It's the ones who dress like trash, have lots of piercings, tattoos, dyed hair, etc. You can almost look at someone and immediately say ""This person would rob me if we bumped into each other at night."" Race is completely irrelevant in these situations. I do, of course, read a lot about HBD and don't think racial equality is true. Of course there are cognitive differences between the races, just like there are differences between the sexes. Big deal. Doesn't mean you have to immediately throw every person from a specific group under the bus and disrespect certain people. It's wait and see. The wild ""American nigger"" you describe is just like our gypsies or house projects teens. Of course they must be expelled from society, but because they don't know any better, not because of their ethnicity. Unless, of course, we specifically want to live in white-only covenants.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488135133 114403465,114432812,2017-02-26 18:55:00,">>114432300 I have no links for you but look up some Jew tube videos of his speeches. He's very clearly totalitarian but does seem very virtuous and economically based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488135300 114403465,114432854,2017-02-26 18:55:25,">>114431141 Also, indeed the ""American nigger"" would have the most to lose under ancap meritocracy, but only because he is the biggest beneficiary of the current statist (welfarist) conditions. On the other hand, only the best examples of all peoples would survive. It's like slashing the left-half of the bell curve. In the end, you're getting rid of all stupids, it just so happens that most of them are from a certain race.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488135325 114403465,114432993,2017-02-26 18:56:50,">>114432546 You're a cool dude. I agree completely.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488135410 114403465,114433175,2017-02-26 18:58:35,">>114432993 thanks famalam",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488135515 114403465,114433584,2017-02-26 19:02:21,">>114432546 You are a really nice guy portubro,I would like to be less biased towards some smart niggers but since I've lived in Paris it's really difficult for me to not throwing a death stare everytime I see one of them now,I know Few of them could live in France without chimping out but these cunts are So obnoxious (in general) it's like living in hell",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488135741 114403465,114433825,2017-02-26 19:04:25,"QUICK RUNDOWN ON HOW TO EXTERMINATE COMMIES WITHOUT BREAKING THE NAP Step 1: Stop welfare payments. Step 2: Wait for the commies to take the following three paths: a) Realize the errors of their ways and get jobs. b) Starve to death in a gutter. c) Chimp out and start rioting and looting and trashing private property. Step 3: You are now clear to genocide the remaining commies since they're all breaking the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488135865 114403465,114434537,2017-02-26 19:10:24,">>114433584 I get what you're saying. In here, the literal niggers concentrate in the bigger cities (Porto and Lisbon), there's even parts of Lisbon that are ""famous"" for being Niggerland (Margem Sul, Amadora, Buraka). I live in a comfy town so I only see a few, and the black people I interact with are good people, harmless and civilized. Our racial biases become much more relevant when we have open borders, welfare, and are not allowed to discriminate against or in favor of whomever we want. Hoppe talks about this. He contrasts the relationships between minorities and majorities under monarchical and democratic rule. Monarchs kept things in check and cultures/races remained segregated and yet coexisted within society. Democracy keeps the coexistance but completely disregards the segregation/voluntary integration that happened under monarchy. For me, it's the single: you're a racist if you treat people unfairly solely because of their ethnic/racial background. You are NOT a racist if you acknowledge the existence of HBD, yet remind yourself that you must treat others as you would like them treat you, that is, with respect. >>114433825 Nice rundown, Britbro. Based greatest ally.",,Anonymous,absolute greatest allies.png,Qm3hk2XAaVFPcnHGwa3ABg==,PT,,1488136224 114403465,114435226,2017-02-26 19:16:06,">>114406210 M ' m e m e s",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488136566 114403465,114435300,2017-02-26 19:16:40,">>114433825 Nukem.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488136600 114403465,114435302,2017-02-26 19:16:40,">>114433584 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hePOZtPNaXI&list=PLii_ph0s7gVf57jMG5RyBv4j_ue0YEH1Z&index=3 this is what we're dealing with by the way",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488136600 114403465,114435423,2017-02-26 19:17:44,">>114434537 Thanks for the comprehension portubro,take a de Lesquen (french racialist libertarian ) clapping at your great posts",,Anonymous,image.jpg,FcriYhbH/8BCgPau93DllA==,FR,,1488136664 114403465,114435736,2017-02-26 19:20:24,">>114435423 >At the end of 2015, de Lesquen announced his candidacy to the 2017 presidential election. In the following months, he attracted media attention by making a number of racist remarks and radical proposals, claiming that as president, he would destroy the Eiffel Tower, ""burn"" France's labour code and ban ""negro music"" from the French public media. [2][3] He was eventually sued for public insults, racist declarations and holocaust denial. In January 2017, he was sentenced to a 16000 euros fine. top kek, love the man already. Also, fuck the people who charged him 16k€. And they say the EU is democratic, pro free speech, pff...",,Anonymous,1461029508928.jpg,e7vmyynlh/1tuMX84HbbpQ==,PT,,1488136824 114403465,114436641,2017-02-26 19:28:29,">>114435736 The ones who accused him for holocaust denial were the LICRA (a jewish lead anti-racist group) and this fucking madman called them in public during the process Being ""Goy hating pharisians "" while eating snacks giving zeros fuck",,Anonymous,image.jpg,bHjCQ7QGzKlIyfDW4E1X1g==,FR,,1488137309 114403465,114436737,2017-02-26 19:29:19,">>114436641 top kek Seems like a good guy to have a baguette with. The libertarianism the icing on top of the cake.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488137359 114403465,114436791,2017-02-26 19:29:44,">>114436641 Holy fuck, is there video of this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488137384 114403465,114437001,2017-02-26 19:31:45,Right on,,Anonymous,reboot.png,1qGJkn+JT+fXvs0Ixi84Yg==,US,,1488137505 114403465,114437064,2017-02-26 19:32:19,">>114436737 Surely Can't stesquen the lesquen",,Anonymous,image.jpg,+y8iqeqkDVzGoHnwx9Qb4Q==,FR,,1488137539 114403465,114437065,2017-02-26 19:32:19,>>114404528,,Anonymous,1485581974078.jpg,lxgfyEEBwLjMGjovYvsx9Q==,US,,1488137539 114403465,114437334,2017-02-26 19:34:42,Alright guys. I'm gonna call it a night. Have fun and we'll see each other on the next thread. Hoppebro out.,,Anonymous,REMOVE.png,O1m4Cx5zWxVIZd7UwvgdOg==,PT,,1488137682 114403465,114437599,2017-02-26 19:37:17,">>114403465 >>114403532 >>114403600 Will royal libertarians evolve before its too late?",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,AnarchismTree09.gif,7QPD8RGPI7DZoPFc+kgttQ==,US,,1488137837 114403465,114437673,2017-02-26 19:37:51,Why don't we physically add leftists and communists into society?,,Anonymous,hans-hermann-hoppe.jpg,7Gwd0Y+JT/KK//IbnQ9DGA==,US,,1488137871 114403465,114437694,2017-02-26 19:38:01,">>114436791 It's only in french but he starts speaking with a member of the LICRA at 1:40 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x30XQPajJHk&ebc=ANyPxKqyTsUYfcGIHk-p9pJN9pgbaNN8trfOlIBB8FP9noGUsTLC0bsWfUUkjFdJe-5haxF8W_7J7CCuAe1tQZbQx4NMHY-cbw >>114437334 Good night",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488137881 114403465,114437738,2017-02-26 19:38:26,,,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-02-26-19-37-00-1.png,GYCZZPGOp7y3Dq0ihJmKJQ==,US,,1488137906 114403465,114437955,2017-02-26 19:40:26,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwwF1jOpfNY > CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE CHOOSE HOPPE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488138026 114403465,114438021,2017-02-26 19:40:59,">>114437599 > call self capitalist > capitalism is only defined by marx t. useful idiot",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1488138059 114403465,114438471,2017-02-26 19:44:54,">>114438021 Socialist Confusions The classical liberal distinctions between land, labor and capital were greatly confused by socialists, and particularly Marxists, who substituted the fuzzy abstract term, ""means of production,"" for all three factors. They also blurred the distinction between common property and state property, for socialists believed, as royalty also believed, that they were the people. Today, the confusions between land and capital and between state property and common property are shared by socialists and royal libertarians, and only classical liberals keep these distinctions clearly defined. Yet royal libertarians frequently duck the land issue by charging that it is the classical liberals, not the royal libertarians, who have embraced socialist ideas.",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,,,US,,1488138294 114403465,114438520,2017-02-26 19:45:18,">>114437599 Go write a blog about it dong-washer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488138318 114403465,114438879,2017-02-26 19:48:26,">>114438471 The pasta you post makes you seem like the /cg/ posters. Please fuck off with your gay shit. Speak not from your wiki pages but from your own words.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488138506 114403465,114439634,2017-02-26 19:55:01,">>114438471 >namefagging The document I dispose proves you're a faggot",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ChS1Vcq8uwxScY6E1eHtHQ==,FR,,1488138901 114403465,114439900,2017-02-26 19:57:08,"I'm honestly just impressed that these threads exist at all in /pol/ Just a few months ago it was just ancap ball and natsoc threads. I guess a bunch of people actually started reading austrian economic literature and realized it was a red pill on a whole other level.",,Anonymous,The_American-Bo_Barlett.jpg,jzwCvKFSa8Ev72xSE319Og==,CA,,1488139028 114403465,114440237,2017-02-26 20:00:14,">>114439900 It's only the beginning",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488139214 114403465,114440275,2017-02-26 20:00:31,">>114438879 Tell me friend.. Do you see no distinction from between land, labor and capital? What is your problem with private possession of land without interference from the state? What is morally wrong with the community collection of land rent to prevent monopolization of land? I think that all government activities should at least be limited to those which increase the value of land by more than what the government collects, and that government should be funded entirely from the land value increases it creates. How is opposing direct state monopolization of land as well as state-sanctioned private monopolization of land anticapitalist or anti liberty? What is wrong with advocating that state and federally held land pay land rent to the communities the same as private land? I think everyone itt agrees that government be limited to spend only what is authorized by voter referendum and that it take for itself the minimum it is authorized to spend. I advocate the collection of the full rent and stipulate that the proceeds be divided among community members on a per-capita or similar basis, for the land, and the rent, belong to the people, not the state. All of us here condemn the taxation of property improvements, and of all activities, productive, consumptive, or recreational, as invasions by the state into the private affairs of free individuals cheers",,Geolibertarian/Georgist,image_single-tax-liberator.gif,z7xkN+QSuPVb3em993ztvg==,US,,1488139231 114403465,114440422,2017-02-26 20:02:02,>>114404193,,Anonymous,ancap pt.jpg,Tv0kuxhoAux++N1hDW85tw==,PT,,1488139322 114403465,114440454,2017-02-26 20:02:19,>>114403465,,Anonymous,1463101314630.jpg,GdbZv9023JilmgGLNpIKBg==,NL,,1488139339 114403465,114440848,2017-02-26 20:05:58,>>114439634,,Anonymous,246517_448675741817412_289891264_n1.jpg,gqAc5g3+UMZWwkmLVr5XBg==,US,,1488139558 114403465,114441073,2017-02-26 20:08:23,">>114403465 >>114404376 >>114404528 >""""""""""libertarian"""""""""" right Ever notice how racist fuckwits and other assorted totalitarian fascists always have to disguise themselves and pretend to be something they aren't? It's almost as if they know their beliefs are evil and won't get a hearing any other way.",,Anonymous,pol = fake libertarians.png,Ojlqu3jHhFdLO/PCLvrnlA==,US,,1488139703 114403465,114441168,2017-02-26 20:09:09,,,Anonymous,libsoc vs libcap.jpg,6AeXu6G370j0O1N0dsGwog==,US,,1488139749 114403465,114441833,2017-02-26 20:15:14,">>114428471 Theoretically, if multiculturalism could ever work... it would only be an ancap society or something that approximates an ancap society. Imagine a society in which respect for property rights is so high, that it naturally weeds out anyone who does not have a high enough IQ to meet the bare minimum level at which they can actually compete in the marketplace. Even then you would still have many city-states made up entirely of one ethnicity and culture, simply because there is obviously a demand for it and free markets respond to demand. It would likely be the port cities which would serve as cosmopolitan trade hubs, although there would also be demand for ethnocentric port cities. Anarcho-capitalism is all about trying to create a world where there are options. If you want to live in an European ethno-state, there will be plenty to choose from.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488140114 114403465,114442325,2017-02-26 20:19:31,">>114441073 Ah nice you have the original image been looking for that. I'm pretty openly racist but I think Nazis did it all wrong they just like you commies don't know shit about economics and want us all to have to suck an EQUAL amount of cocks. Go remove yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488140371 114403465,114442840,2017-02-26 20:24:29,">>114440848 >feelzoverrealz.jpg If the native americans had any clue as to how to design a set of principles which allows people to function in a civilized matter, they would have managed to negotiate sovereignty over a sizeable portion of North America. But they didn't, they just thought the whole damn continent was theirs for no particular reason. Sadly it's just like how governments today make unjust claims of ownership over land.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488140669 114403465,114443284,2017-02-26 20:28:29,">>114442325 I meant to post the remaster",,Anonymous,Pol__2__0.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1488140909 114542095,114542095,2017-02-27 15:27:18,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. Libertarian/pol Discord: https://discord.gg/swp3YFF >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Libertarian pol.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1488209238 114542095,114542150,2017-02-27 15:27:40,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488209260 114542095,114542201,2017-02-27 15:28:10,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488209290 114542095,114542255,2017-02-27 15:28:38,"This is now an NSG thread. ""The greatest threat to the European races is not a strong government, rather the very opposite""",,Anonymous,nsg-1h1.png,6pT1y4fDVr8L/nJ51xEX5w==,CA,,1488209318 114542095,114542331,2017-02-27 15:29:18,bump,,Anonymous,you-cant-just-throw-someone-out-a-helicopter-because-theyre-2903240.png,SdihHpYn79svbZANxFvqoQ==,US,,1488209358 114542095,114544714,2017-02-27 15:50:39,">>114542255 A",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488210639 114542095,114545168,2017-02-27 15:54:53,">>114542331 Nice",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488210893 114542095,114545474,2017-02-27 15:57:41,I think this thread is frankly unnecessary,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488211061 114542095,114545602,2017-02-27 15:59:01,"Wait, are there libertarian lefties?",,Anonymous,Original_ Buttermilk_Pancakes.png,YsiVcbNRr0ynAqKD+hUEAw==,US,,1488211141 114542095,114548306,2017-02-27 16:22:29,bump,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1488212549 114570708,114570708,2017-02-27 19:28:42,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. Libertarian/Pol Discord: https://discord.gg/Aq2G2 >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Libertarian pol.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1488223722 114570708,114570753,2017-02-27 19:29:08,,,Anonymous,Alleppo.gif,vjWNmTfI/ccaUopVp+7C5w==,US,,1488223748 114570708,114570837,2017-02-27 19:29:46,,,Anonymous,Gary Johnson.jpg,w3QnrPyDWhHEG7D3eEiQsg==,US,,1488223786 114570708,114571040,2017-02-27 19:31:31,"Hippity hoppity Get off my property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488223891 114570708,114571110,2017-02-27 19:32:18,">>114571040 Indeed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488223938 115348130,115348130,2017-03-05 10:12:03,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DAY OF THE REMOVAL EDITION,Anonymous,Flag.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1488708723 115348130,115348173,2017-03-05 10:12:28,,,Anonymous,AnarchistGadsden.png,YB/46et2ZZC+7S0LzOEFsA==,US,,1488708748 115348130,115348232,2017-03-05 10:12:59,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1488708779 115348130,115348305,2017-03-05 10:13:34,">>115348130 It's all vulgar materialism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488708814 115348130,115348435,2017-03-05 10:14:42,"Today I have some news of a MAGA/Physical Removal vs Commies showdown at UC Berkley. Have some videos and pics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nPEIsqJZ5c",,Anonymous,C6GfhvVUwAECmr1.jpg,zW+d9XwOdpST2016gzeDDQ==,US,,1488708882 115348130,115348466,2017-03-05 10:15:01,">>115348130 ROADS O A D S",,Anonymous,libertarian wet dream.jpg,xQOgNgf8R0UhZnk29r+B4A==,HR,,1488708901 115348130,115348475,2017-03-05 10:15:06,,,Anonymous,weNTbix.jpg,Jui0GYn7YhbgMGL44qOO5w==,US,,1488708906 115348130,115348488,2017-03-05 10:15:13,>>115348130,,Anonymous,mephisto.jpg,gJQ+C2yS37aWQYSlWQOdxw==,GB,,1488708913 115348130,115348497,2017-03-05 10:15:18,">>115348305 fuck off cunt. >>115348130 You should include the Hoppewave in the OP from now on, OP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ It's a great summary of Hoppean libertarianism.",,Anonymous,hoppe physical removal-min.png,xWbOH+078M65hA7wPGUoXQ==,PT,,1488708918 115348130,115348707,2017-03-05 10:17:19,">>115348130 hey bros",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488709039 115348130,115348714,2017-03-05 10:17:24,">>115348435 that was beautiful.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488709044 115348130,115348838,2017-03-05 10:18:49,">>115348497 yeah I forgot to include it in the first post. in other news physical removal is catching on big time. the ancaps are waking up and I've seen some reddit communities embrace Hoppe https://www.reddit.com/r/Physical_Removal/ beware tho, they are still a bit cucky and will get butthurt if you insult anyone other than commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488709129 115348130,115349108,2017-03-05 10:21:37,Hello fellow capitalists,,Anonymous,1486941551145.jpg,hRE5r3u3Noj8KDwZ02wZTg==,GB,,1488709297 115348130,115349138,2017-03-05 10:21:58,"Also heres a video of Commies trying to set an AnCap flag on fire but they cant do it https://twitter.com/TheeCurrentYear/status/838170004977778689 if anyone has some other fottage of this event please post it.",,Anonymous,5we.jpg,CpzylDWehYygQUqHuLNrUg==,US,,1488709318 115348130,115349160,2017-03-05 10:22:07,,,Anonymous,1488647934541.png,jcuFgF/UVjHAEH1iRwPKuw==,GB,,1488709327 115348130,115349257,2017-03-05 10:23:07,">the only must-watch libertarian channel https://jasonstapleton.com/on-demand/ >YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/jasonstapletonshow Do the 10 episode challenge, most shows are interconnected by topics. If you have trouble understanding economics, he explains a lot and if you have trouble getting your point across to other people, he also explains how to talk with people very often. LIBERTY.",,Anonymous,jsp.jpg,B+R6Z5Gy6ysKSEylpj98ug==,NL,,1488709387 115348130,115349266,2017-03-05 10:23:12,">>115348435 10/10",,Anonymous,sides crippled.jpg,7Mk9yxuphhu/Ka1/psb5+g==,PL,,1488709392 115348130,115349403,2017-03-05 10:24:38,Need more snek,,Anonymous,1487165256673.png,MehbSeRxK3bsi4N/HhBpJg==,BR,,1488709478 115348130,115349494,2017-03-05 10:25:28,>>115349108,,Anonymous,16998181_1759339301050907_2676208680917888204_n.jpg,okln5OVwV0BN3+ZUefCBZg==,BR,,1488709528 115348130,115349585,2017-03-05 10:26:37,">>115348838 top kek, that's insane. And to think I indirectly contributed to this Hoppe resurgence because of all the image macros, quotes and ingrofraphics I made, wew.....",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1488709597 115348130,115349587,2017-03-05 10:26:38,">>115348130 First, I'm libertarian. Second, I don't get why we shouldn't allow communist in libertarian utopia as long as we don't have to partake their communism?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1488709598 115348130,115349649,2017-03-05 10:27:06,Bump,,Anonymous,anarcho_capitalism_wallpaper_by_appriweb-d5xfm41.jpg,tvWQnUfvkFouSs6hWZGMwQ==,NL,,1488709626 115348130,115349764,2017-03-05 10:28:11,">>115349587 We could allow them, but why not simply buy their land and evict them as soon as possible? Regardless, they only become areal threat when they actively try to impose communism down our throats.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488709691 115348130,115349771,2017-03-05 10:28:14,">>115348497 Who's the guy talking about Hoppe uncucking libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488709694 115348130,115349795,2017-03-05 10:28:27,">>115349587 Nothing's stopping you from building a closed egalitarian commune within a voluntaryist society",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488709707 115348130,115349878,2017-03-05 10:29:08,,,Anonymous,america1411591684124.jpg,dTIB4PowBaqVfS5++UGqiA==,HR,,1488709748 115348130,115349922,2017-03-05 10:29:34,">>115349403 >>115349585 yeah I've seen some of my content posted as well. Feels good to fuel the liberty movement >>115349587 because they violently oppose private property and will try and take what is ours. we are fascists to them that must be killed.",,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1488709774 115348130,115350113,2017-03-05 10:31:50,">>115349922 Amazing indeed. I still hope Hoppean Snake Memes or HHH Physical Removal Services will share the video, because we need more followers. >>115349771 Christopher Cantwell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWMWg4LYIWA",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488709910 115348130,115350872,2017-03-05 10:39:35,">>115350113 thanks for posting the clip to this, I was trying to cut it out of the full episode and it was a pain in the ass. also check out my full /lrg/ badge dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s9u8iis5xhgbuiv/AAAJYtdpgX1W8If25JIfadG6a?dl=0",,Anonymous,Catalog.png,5hvF3bJbCTvvznkXXm31QQ==,US,,1488710375 115348130,115351031,2017-03-05 10:41:10,">>115348466 I'll make my own fucking road",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488710470 115348130,115351388,2017-03-05 10:44:28,">>115350872 Thanks, man. Awesome badges.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488710668 115348130,115351880,2017-03-05 10:49:35,,,Anonymous,jqrqF9uCHnu-JMU2nfLyaXOyMq2FiAXdIdfh_TCUBLg.jpg,AYp+JQPBaBNyATYf/rCStw==,US,,1488710975 115348130,115352745,2017-03-05 10:57:59,,,Anonymous,Pepe.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1488711479 115348130,115352765,2017-03-05 10:58:10,bumping with quotes,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1488711490 115348130,115352812,2017-03-05 10:58:39,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1488711519 115348130,115352860,2017-03-05 10:59:00,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1488711540 115348130,115352883,2017-03-05 10:59:20,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1488711560 115348130,115352919,2017-03-05 10:59:43,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1488711583 115348130,115352966,2017-03-05 11:00:09,,,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1488711609 115348130,115352998,2017-03-05 11:00:32,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1488711632 115348130,115353036,2017-03-05 11:00:52,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1488711652 115348130,115353077,2017-03-05 11:01:12,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1488711672 115348130,115353117,2017-03-05 11:01:34,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1488711694 115348130,115353147,2017-03-05 11:01:54,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1488711714 115348130,115353178,2017-03-05 11:02:14,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1488711734 115348130,115353214,2017-03-05 11:02:34,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1488711754 115348130,115353244,2017-03-05 11:02:53,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1488711773 115348130,115353284,2017-03-05 11:03:14,,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1488711794 115348130,115353323,2017-03-05 11:03:37,,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1488711817 115348130,115353355,2017-03-05 11:03:56,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1488711836 115348130,115353368,2017-03-05 11:04:02,"Last week I made the mistake of making a reddit account to poke around ancap/libertarian safespaces. I thought these guys might have been alright but instead i had a long dumb argument about Open boarders, and Non-Discrimination. where do these fags get this shit from? I've never heard any intelligent ancap on favor of open borders but aparently they all think this.",,Anonymous,Normal_Ancap.png,0cj87/YtlHkwyisfLCRUVQ==,US,,1488711842 115348130,115353412,2017-03-05 11:04:28,,,Anonymous,guide to ancap.jpg,Ct6y00S0WbVLMPr2fEghgg==,PT,,1488711868 115348130,115353475,2017-03-05 11:05:06,">>115353368 read >>115353284 Libertarianism was thought to be an escape route for rebellious teens with no respect for natural authority.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488711906 115348130,115353601,2017-03-05 11:06:06,,,Anonymous,1485290744724.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,US,,1488711966 115348130,115353751,2017-03-05 11:07:26,,,Anonymous,Alt Knight.jpg,hzsb8euZpYrmIpTLy80zEQ==,US,,1488712046 115348130,115353790,2017-03-05 11:07:50,anyone know where you can buy one of these hats?,,Anonymous,7c104d94ed7e6a35a986432cb33bb8a2.jpg,PS/Rv8+bKPZwxfEM45ze1A==,US,,1488712070 115348130,115353985,2017-03-05 11:09:49,">>115353475 these guys hear non agression and think that no one will interfier with them if they engage in self-destructive behaivor and otherwise act like a shit?",,Anonymous,1EV_SflrEmlq8eDhZ1SQ54rf8atDKUC6FEYr9_zBYm8.jpg,x9kba0Q8c/6Xu4JH82rjdA==,US,,1488712189 115348130,115354020,2017-03-05 11:10:07,">>115353368 they are incoherent because you can't being pro-private property and thinking you can't discriminate without having cognitive dissonance they are probably one these ""socially liberal,economic conservatives"" faggots who probably don't know that Rothbard was againts civil rights even though he is one of the main theorist of anarcho-capitalism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488712207 115348130,115354121,2017-03-05 11:10:52,">>115353790 nah, the only one i knew of was just sold for $300 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/CHILEAN-ARMY-GENERAL-DANTE-ITURRIAGA-MARCHESE-VISOR-CAP-HAT-/191581560273",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488712252 115348130,115354159,2017-03-05 11:11:15,So there a Discord or something?,,Anonymous,CAPTURE 1936 SHOWING OF A GERMAN NAZI SPIRT FLOATING AROUD CENTERAL AFRICA COLOERED 2014.jpg,SRgAz89DQwMBPPOWFoWM3Q==,US,,1488712275 115348130,115354293,2017-03-05 11:12:27,">>115353985 They think property owners (people with standards) will tolerate their degeneracy, welfare addiction, non-productivity and abhorrent social behavior because all of it is legal. They forget that just as drugs, alcohol, prostitution, etc. would be legal, so would kicking out people who partake in these behaviors be legal.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488712347 115348130,115354652,2017-03-05 11:15:59,Jeffrey Tucker is a flamboyant faggot,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488712559 115348130,115354765,2017-03-05 11:17:07,">>115354121 thats what i thought :-(",,Anonymous,C5SU7h6VUAAazlV.jpg,0CiVzfolylLVRTatufECiw==,US,,1488712627 115348130,115355106,2017-03-05 11:20:37,">>115354293 So generally these people are losers and are not worthy of trying to bring into our ranks. They seemed to be stuck on their egalitarian horseshit to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488712837 115348130,115355420,2017-03-05 11:24:00,">>115355106 Indeed. Left-""libertarians"" are fiscally responsible SJWs.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488713040 115348130,115355512,2017-03-05 11:24:53,">>115354765 It's a rare and sought after item. If one had some crafting skill and could produce such a hat it would sell well. Even if it were cheap and shitty is i imagine it would sell even better",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488713093 115348130,115355690,2017-03-05 11:26:43,,,Anonymous,25c819662df7bb1f0edb158e8eb8c3544fd22b4e8274ea67e724f6237e461a17_1.jpg,p8W5l72E9WB4ZSrm3eXSgg==,BR,,1488713203 115348130,115355708,2017-03-05 11:26:50,,,Anonymous,60fe3371963044c4830b0f5895d799d6.jpg,MtJi/Q8gNUqUQElQzHpIXQ==,FI,,1488713210 115348130,115355724,2017-03-05 11:26:57,">>115349585 your contributions are great",,Anonymous,1488583912691.png,/jtbl7UQsoomIFq0fpZbKQ==,PT,,1488713217 115348130,115355975,2017-03-05 11:29:15,">>115355724 Thanks, my man. Are you the Moldbug reader from the Portuguese thread?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488713355 115348130,115356052,2017-03-05 11:29:53,">>115355512 Hold on I'm getting some jewish ideas. I need to do some research.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488713393 115348130,115356235,2017-03-05 11:31:39,">>115355975 Nah 25/888 bam bota em patrulha mano",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488713499 115348130,115356357,2017-03-05 11:32:48,,,Anonymous,AnCap RothGirl youtube channel.jpg,wN50MeEUr0yCIK/1yVwHWg==,BR,,1488713568 115348130,115356390,2017-03-05 11:33:06,">>115348130 This is my favorite stolen snek.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,IjHsANFvgRmiJUs1xcKZ9A==,US,,1488713586 115348130,115356406,2017-03-05 11:33:14,">>115354765 You could probably get one custom made if you want it so much",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488713594 115348130,115356491,2017-03-05 11:34:09,Sage,,NatSoc Statist,,,CR,,1488713649 115348130,115356532,2017-03-05 11:34:35,">>115356235 Noice. Btw what is this Iniciativa Liberal shit I saw on my Kikebook? I nearly threw up when I saw the quotes they have on Zuccbook.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488713675 115348130,115356554,2017-03-05 11:34:46,"On the issue of SegWit vs. BU, who do you support? I support Core/SegWit",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488713686 115348130,115356569,2017-03-05 11:34:52,">>115356357 She ugly af tho",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488713692 115348130,115356732,2017-03-05 11:36:29,fresh OC,,Anonymous,Untitled-1.jpg,iPd7TcozH/Nn+2gIzEh5Ug==,GB,,1488713789 115348130,115356852,2017-03-05 11:37:48,">>115356406 Thats what I'm thinking, but maybe I could have em made cheap and reproducable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488713868 115348130,115356901,2017-03-05 11:38:17,">>115356532 it's kike shit. it's trudeau's liberlism. it's shit like all we have in this fucking country.",,Anonymous,16387089_10210610149724181_5275489861141294134_n.jpg,a5WYR8X3u986QFSXBLls+Q==,PT,,1488713897 115348130,115357020,2017-03-05 11:39:25,>>115356569,,Anonymous,Cibele Rebeque Serafim no Instagram.jpg,Ws15qBZWE24OXoLG+p5/LA==,BR,,1488713965 115348130,115357166,2017-03-05 11:40:56,">>115356901 Yeah that's what I thought. I nearly threw up when I saw pic related. Fuck these animals. And the comments, oh my god the comments, pure cancer. We truly live in an insane country.",,Anonymous,1.png,VKT0vnWX0MHubG8UaGNj1w==,PT,,1488714056 115348130,115357360,2017-03-05 11:42:41,,,Anonymous,8a357a63c4a78040396ac4776ed9427f6da111c052d5cd89e110f3941216c47d_1.jpg,cOVEgR1MI0Ye1M/Jt4HG0Q==,BR,,1488714161 115348130,115357363,2017-03-05 11:42:43,"Also what's up with them using these straight brackets in bold, are these people retarded?",,Anonymous,2.png,VT+jPx2QA36EqbyTVQPpIw==,PT,,1488714163 115348130,115357401,2017-03-05 11:43:03,,,Anonymous,3.png,/NMLTo9AVsokokeRsvjTfA==,PT,,1488714183 115348130,115357466,2017-03-05 11:43:43,"To foreign anons: this is a ""libertarian"" usurper movement trying to be created by (((them))).",,Anonymous,4.png,xqTHkuDKaS2cvubVXUJ0Rg==,PT,,1488714223 115348130,115357598,2017-03-05 11:45:03,">>115357401 >>115357363 >>115357166 What the fuck. >>115357020 I have her on Facebook",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488714303 115348130,115357612,2017-03-05 11:45:10,">>115357360 left wing anarchist in a nutshell also I still don't get it how working in echange of a salary is stealing people labor",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488714310 115348130,115357692,2017-03-05 11:45:51,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZJDYlxkM-c,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488714351 115348130,115357866,2017-03-05 11:47:24,">>115357466 >""homem e mulher"" riscados >""man and woman"" are slashed text >substituted by ""humankind"" really makes your brain signal conductors work doesnt it >>115357692 shadilay 25/888 >>115357363 >>115357401 UTTER TRASH",,Anonymous,1461137766460.jpg,cCKTauVB7hpysipM8l2F/Q==,PT,,1488714444 115348130,115358012,2017-03-05 11:48:44,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLvzVBZ0Mbc,,Anonymous,1488132977622.png,zPhkGzKPDLEA6j1ymW/VzA==,BR,,1488714524 115348130,115358246,2017-03-05 11:50:46,">>115357363 >>115357401 I have the feeling this bullshit is pretty common. Here we got people calling themselves libertarian while sucking Merkels dick and not even thinking about getting rid of the welfare state, because that would be totally crazy. And now guess what, those are our reconomically right wing libertarians. Germany is fucking screwd, I tell you.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488714646 115348130,115358282,2017-03-05 11:51:05,">>115357866 Yeah that's when I said to myself ""Nope. Ain't gonna happen."" Christ, why can we never have nice things?... >>115358012 Would.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488714665 115348130,115358340,2017-03-05 11:51:40,">>115357360 >left wing anarchist in a nutshell >also I still don't get it how working in echange of a salary is stealing people labor It takes many years of brainwashing to understand their ""logic"". Thankfully, when I joined anarchism many years ago, I started as an individualist anarchist.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488714700 115348130,115358607,2017-03-05 11:54:06,">>115357612 It takes many years of brainwashing to understand their ""logic"". Thankfully, when I joined anarchism many years ago, I started as an individualist anarchist. >>115357363 This tactic is used all over the world.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488714846 115348130,115358866,2017-03-05 11:56:36,">>115357166 can someone translate these for retards like me?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488714996 115348130,115358867,2017-03-05 11:56:36,">>115358340 more spooner like (if there isn't my personal agreement for this it's tyranny) or stirner like (everything is my property bitch) ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488714996 115348130,115359458,2017-03-05 12:02:02,">>115358866 Civic education is a pillar of society and must be stimulated by the State and its agents at all times.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488715322 115348130,115359690,2017-03-05 12:04:17,">>115354020 They are less bad than lefties but they fall for the same bullshit of banning supposedly ""negative"" emotions. Open discrimination is truly the one thing that separates libertarians in their pure form, and is pretty much sufficient since everything else can be traced back to associating with people you want and only them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488715457 115348130,115359784,2017-03-05 12:05:08,">>115359458 Public schools!? that is the most degenerate shit I've ever taken part in. who are these people? liberals? left-libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488715508 115348130,115360005,2017-03-05 12:07:02,">>115359690 This and the faggotry that are postive rights. Left Libertarians can't stop jerking it to the idea that everybody has the right to get fed by the rest of the people.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488715622 115348130,115360110,2017-03-05 12:07:58,">>115359458 been in public school it's shit and our pisa numbers prove it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488715678 115348130,115360113,2017-03-05 12:07:59,">>115358867 Agreements. The goal is to live peacefully, with peace and prosperity.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488715679 115348130,115360203,2017-03-05 12:08:49,">>115357166 Civic education is a pillar of society and should be incentivized by the State and its institutions at all times. >>115357363 Portugal's future goes through its capacity to collaborate and create synergies with its partners in Europe, CPLP and the world. >>115357401 The State should, through different mechanisms, reward and incentivize the social and environmental responsibility of its citizens with the aim of making society sustainable. >>115357466 Equality of rights between (men and women) human beings, without discrimination of gender, race, age, religion, or sexual orientation. >>115358866",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488715729 115348130,115360223,2017-03-05 12:09:02,">>115360110 >>115359784 I just translated that picture, I think public schools are degenerate shit.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488715742 115348130,115360542,2017-03-05 12:12:16,">>115360203 dafuq? this is blantant socialist shit. these people are claiming to be libertarians? You boys have some removal to do. can libertarianism be saved in the mainstream without being veiwed as nazis?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488715936 115348130,115360764,2017-03-05 12:14:22,">>115360542 >can libertarianism be saved in the mainstream without being veiwed as nazis? No. Even here our soft right (read: social-democratic) party, PSD, is attacked by leftist retards as neo-liberal, fascist and ultra-capitalist. Forty years of Marxist indocrination after the (((Carnation Revolution))) resulted in this disgusting subhuman abnormal belief system.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488716062 115348130,115360902,2017-03-05 12:15:48,">>115360764 >Even here our soft right (read: social-democratic) party, PSD, is attacked by leftist retards as neo-liberal, fascist and ultra-capitalist. Same. DESU I'm starting to think the only way this can be fixed is actual fascism so they learn to appreciate some sort of liberty.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488716148 115348130,115360948,2017-03-05 12:16:12,">>115360542 I honestly have no hope for this country.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488716172 115348130,115361010,2017-03-05 12:16:41,">>115360542 I think not. I noticed that the only thing lefties here hate as much as le avil Nazis is any form of economic liberalism, not just full on laissez faire, even slight deregulation drives the up the fucking wall. They talk about how bad the government is, but once you suggest taking away its control over the economy, they get defensive and tell you how great the government is. Germany is ruled by jews and cognitive dissonance. It almost would be funny, if it wasn't the country I live in.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488716201 115348130,115361176,2017-03-05 12:18:16,,,Anonymous,1488228293798.jpg,jRP/uLHAcBqPwlXBJgfvCg==,TR,,1488716296 115348130,115361273,2017-03-05 12:19:13,">>115360764 >soft right (read: social-democratic) party, PSD, is attacked by leftist retards as neo-liberal, fascist and ultra-capitalist. This. Much of public opinions hold a calld ""Social Democratic Party"" which center in Portugal and left of Hillary in the states is called by a good portion of the people fascist and capitalistic. We're a dying country. My only hope is to get a job somewhere else. Mind you burgeranon that 22% of portuguese people live abroad. Why do you think this is?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488716353 115348130,115361539,2017-03-05 12:21:44,">>115360764 >>115360902 >>115360948 >>115361010 Shit guys I feel for you bad. America has our awful marxists but we still have plenty of real right-wing and libertarian opposition that I see growing rather than dying. How are you guys planning on escaping this faggotry? For me living my prefered lyfestyle seems inevitable at this point. shit seems like an immenent threat to you guys.",,Anonymous,augusto-pinochet-3.jpg,xpa9fY2csFPv4uIXQ2k+xQ==,US,,1488716504 115348130,115361663,2017-03-05 12:22:49,"public goods",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488716569 115348130,115361844,2017-03-05 12:24:29,">>115361663 Theres no such thing as free breadsticks you fucking socialist!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488716669 115348130,115361877,2017-03-05 12:24:45,">>115361539 Either revolution or emigrating to the USA like the smart people did years ago before everything turned into the GDR. It is saddening that one has to move to another country in order to fucking work, while he could stay put and get fed by the government if he stays. Economic migration the other way around, if you will.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488716685 115348130,115361929,2017-03-05 12:25:22,">>115361539 >How are you guys planning on escaping this faggotry? I am conflicted between staying here and fighting for my country or simply saying ""fuck this"" and go to Switzerland, Hungary, Liechtenstein or Singapore. It will be almost impossible to go to the US (as I originally planned to) because of the anti-European biases you guys have on immigration. So yeah, I'm divided between staying here or leaving. But if I leave and make a good life out there, I might return and try to change things around.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488716722 115348130,115362332,2017-03-05 12:29:22,">>115354159 A discord would be really cool",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1488716962 115348130,115362504,2017-03-05 12:31:11,">>115361929 Create a group of libertarian studies there. Here in Brazil are being created. Fight back or A3",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488717071 115348130,115362537,2017-03-05 12:31:27,">>115361929 I thought about going to switzerland, too, as it would be pretty near and not that much of a problem to move there, but they start to spiral down there aswell. Granted, they haven't hit rock bottom like the EU did years ago, but I have the feeling that in the next time Lefties will vote in much stupid shit. Switzerland may be neutral and not in the EU, but that doesn't mean that its people aren't influenced by the Left Wing bullshit in the EU.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488717087 115348130,115362565,2017-03-05 12:31:40,">>115361929 hows the political culture over there? are regular people leftists? In my area most regular people are pro-market with little to no left opinions. is there any opposition by you?",,Anonymous,15966300_1833359693601243_6275391223397632600_n.jpg,ylHG+ULWWY4mKcM4OFjbgA==,US,,1488717100 115348130,115362694,2017-03-05 12:32:55,,,Anonymous,1488181154842.png,A2rOiqLzuFMp8AEXKhku4A==,TR,,1488717175 115348130,115362714,2017-03-05 12:33:16,">>115355512 >>115356052 Shit, id buy one immediately if it had a decent price. We really need to make pinochet-libertarianism more mainstream.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1488717196 115348130,115362846,2017-03-05 12:34:44,">>115357612 >I still don't get it how working in echange of a salary is stealing people labor And you never will, because it is utterly retarded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488717284 115348130,115363030,2017-03-05 12:36:54,">>115362694 >when you wont be able to do any of that shit because nobody would want to do business with a psychopath, therefore leaving you without any money to buy weapons",,Anonymous,15420986_10100459173461539_5358652656821799746_n.jpg,gjm5N12fS0kVmkLiORWcKw==,IL,,1488717414 115348130,115363041,2017-03-05 12:36:58,">>115362565 I can only speak for myself, but here in Germany I noticed that people on the countryside tend to be socially way more conservative than the people in urban areas. Economically that is true aswell, but the perspective is what matters. They might be in favor of tax cuts and hate freeloaders that get benefits for not working, they still cling to ideas like public healthcare and public education. All I can do is slowly redpilling the people around me, growing their already existing hate on the government into thoughts like ""Taxes are only used to feed rapefugees anyway, so why bother with a social state in the first place?"" But I have to admit, living in Bavaria could make my effort a little bit easier, since we are a good chunk more conservative and anti government than the rest of Germany.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488717418 115348130,115363333,2017-03-05 12:39:51,">>115362504 We have Instituto Mises Portugal and a few websites like O Insurgente, Blasfémias, Tempos Livres and informal organizations like Partido Libertário Português, but it is completely irrelevant nation-wide. It's mostly confined to private gatherings, university talks and book signings unfortunately. >>115362537 Fortunately the Swiss have very low time preferences and are generally not as accepting to political centralization and egalitarianism as other countries. But of course those sentiments will pass and fade away over time. Our continent will be invaded by third world hordes in the coming years, shit will completely hit the fan by 2030. There will be no Switzerland to talk of if we do not do What Must Be Done. >>115362565 Very toxic. You can be an open communist and get no threats or resentment, but if you're anything right than CDS (Christian Center Party) you are a Nazi, a fascist, a ""Salazarista."" There is no true right-wing opposition in this country. They're all ball-less milquetoasts and pansies who only want to suck the Jewish EU corporatist cock instead of actually getting anything done. We probably have the most arrogant and worthless politicians in the entire Union, it's a shame. Scandal after scandal, gaffe after gaffe, stupid shit after stupid shit. It's inferno over here.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488717591 115348130,115363571,2017-03-05 12:41:54,">>115361539 >How are you guys planning on escaping this faggotry? Switzerland. USA is tight on immigration on h1b visas. I hope I get a good paying job there. I'll join their right-libertarian circles and push these ideas. >>115361929 >Liechtenstein very hard to get in > Singapore. can't see myself happy outside the western/european world >>115362565 The political culture in portugal the mainstream is ""commie shit"" vs ""socialist shit"". that's it. our govt is a loose coalition between Portuguese Communist Party, Left Bloc (sjw commies) and the Socialist Party. The opposition is ""Social Democratic Party"" and the ""Centre Democratic Social"". That's it. It's shit. If you call yourself a CDS supporter (which the farther right we have a coalition between european conservatives and classical (cucked) liberals) you're a ""FRIGGIN NAZI"" and you hate the poor etc etc",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488717714 115348130,115363952,2017-03-05 12:45:44,">>115362565 high taxes,shitton of regulations,no free speech but people (and niggers) riot if you try to change the labor code WAKE ME UP INSIDE",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488717944 115348130,115364246,2017-03-05 12:48:33,">>115363333 >>115363571 >>115363952 Shit I must be spoiled, I think I would have chimped out already if that was my environment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488718113 115348130,115364330,2017-03-05 12:49:12,">>115354159 https://discordapp.com/channels/281873031218069504/281873031218069504",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488718152 115348130,115364352,2017-03-05 12:49:26,">>115363333 >""Salazarista."" First of all, checked. But do these people realize how much the rule under Salazar was productive? >>115363571 >>115361929 >Singapore I have two friends that moved there. There are drawbacks, mainly due to climate (absolutely awful) and some of the artificiality of a purely urban land (surrounded by huge islamic jungle people so you can't leave it), but business and industry wise it feels like paradise compared to our countries. Also they're both married to Chinese girls now (very few western women settle there, the absence of gibsmedat must be a repellent).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488718166 115348130,115364413,2017-03-05 12:50:04,">>115364246 you should be aware of how lucky you are in the US even though some things look bad. support all you can your right wing orgs. nowhere in the western world there is such freedom. enjoy it and fight everyone trying to destroy it because there's no more places to escape in european cultures.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488718204 115348130,115364724,2017-03-05 12:53:06,">>115364352 >mainly due to climate (absolutely awful) This. Portugal is already too hot for me except for a few places near Galicia. >artificiality of a purely urban land This > business and industry wise it feels like paradise compared to our countries. of course and look how they grew in a decade while we went from bad to shit. >>115364352 >both married to Chinese girls now Although I'd smash cute chinks I couldn't see myself marrying one. Seems too annoying and I don't want mixed kids. I want kids that look like me. also >no free speech and internet meedling even though they are super rich I like talking shit on the internet and there's no price to that, literally",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488718386 115348130,115364843,2017-03-05 12:54:25,">>115364352 I don't think they do, even though all evidence points to that being the case. There are even books written about it. I'm not a Salazar apologist, but given the dire straits we were in at the time, he was the least worst option we got. Unless, of course, someone wanted to reinstate the monarchy. The reason I'd like to go to Singapore is because of the business freedom and the harshness of the laws for littering and being a degenerate. I would also consider Hong Kong, although overall I'd miss Europe and the West in general. >>115364246 You are lucky to be an American. America will be the final stand between the civilized world and the subhuman barbarians from Africa and the Middle East, in an unholy alliance with the Left.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488718465 115348130,115365067,2017-03-05 12:56:50,">>115348130 Libertarianism is weak kneed cowardice Impose and demand western culture traditions and values, you fucking cuck. Libertarianism is the back door muslims and communist snuck in through Useful idiot, grow up. Pick a side.",,Thwack,SMASHCULTURALMARXISM.jpg,V75nBd2aR5JPcdxd8RBFkQ==,US,,1488718610 115348130,115365187,2017-03-05 12:57:55,">>115348130 Piss yellow.",,Thwack,,,US,,1488718675 115348130,115365283,2017-03-05 12:58:57,">>115365067 You're a fucking cuck if you think big govt is the ideal endgame. And you'll be thrown out of a fucking helicopter.",,Anonymous,1486168300130.png,a0Td5yItUMJ6QHaV4jE6ug==,PT,,1488718737 115348130,115365345,2017-03-05 12:59:31,">>115363030 That's the joke...",,Anonymous,1488327640124.jpg,lxgfyEEBwLjMGjovYvsx9Q==,TR,,1488718771 115348130,115365471,2017-03-05 13:00:42,">>115365345 You should go visit Hoppe in Bodrum.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488718842 115348130,115365475,2017-03-05 13:00:44,">>115364413 Will do. And I do believe my country will remain this way, this past year of leftist nonsense really got alot of americans woke on commie garbage. The battle is still ongoing here. commies cant subvert us they can only violently revolt at this point and the lesser indoctrinated lefties aren't devoted enough to fight we will no doubt win a civil war.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488718844 115348130,115365508,2017-03-05 13:01:03,">>115365283 Stupid, if I'm the enemy of western values and traditions I deserve to be thrown out. It's not size of govt., moron, it's the character values and morality of govt. Pick a side, cuck. The NAP = is bending over and grabbing your ankles.",,Thwack,1488323955864.jpg,yYOU8CNlnHeXmBAIWG4nXA==,US,,1488718863 115348130,115365576,2017-03-05 13:01:37,">>115364724 >even though they are super rich I like talking shit on the internet and there's no price to that, literally I don't think they do much about internet talk. Less than in here where you can be condemned for tweets so that would still be a gain. But yes, you should be careful there when criticizing the government to other people. The climatic problem is not so much heat as rain. You have three months of non stop rain. >>115364843 Wasn't Portugal in the top 3 countries that grew the most in the mid century with Spain and Japan? Not to mention being at peace for all this time and being well liked by gommies worldwide? At least in Spain they can play on the war and hatred of the military but what about Salazar?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1488718897 115348130,115365909,2017-03-05 13:04:58,">>115365471 >The PFS holds annual conferences where paleolibertarian and conservative intellectuals deliver speeches and exchange ideas in what Hans-Hermann Hoppe suggests is a ""political-correctness-free zone."" Damn, I didn't even know about this. Sounds great",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1488719098 115348130,115366091,2017-03-05 13:06:42,">>115365508 most blue-pilled idea ever conceived. If you open yourself to be ruled in expectations that the ruler will share your values you're also exposing yourself to being ruled by someone who despises them. Democracy is a fucking cancer, so no, a ""good"" government is no solution, not for longer than 4-8 years anyway.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1488719202 115348130,115366256,2017-03-05 13:08:10,">>115365508 I understand you're on the good side. But please go educate yourself and read some Hoppe. There's no one who hates Marxism as Right Libertarians. Take yourself a bit of time and listen to this Hoppe's lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4 It will make sense to you why there are hardcore libertarians on /pol/. Listen to it and understand it. >>115365471 Fuck as soon as I have the money to do it I'll be there in a heartbeat. >>115365475 Godspeed. Donate to right wing orgs (libertarian or not) and influence your friends through your virtue. >>115365576 >rain >not being able to talk shit on the state yeah not even for the 18k$/mo salaries they offer me over there.",,Anonymous,1485951000930.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,PT,,1488719290 115348130,115366413,2017-03-05 13:09:28,">>115366091 Constitutional Republic. A constitutional authority can be amended to reflect the character of the people...and used to smash left wing idealologies...and pathetic right wing weakness like libertarians. And it should.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488719368 115348130,115366424,2017-03-05 13:09:35,"Nice memes, but libertarian policies are weak and don't work in the 21st century 60% America. Trumpism is the future for White America.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488719375 115348130,115366625,2017-03-05 13:11:33,">>115366424 you realize the degeneracy you have is due to the welfare state right",,Anonymous,1485902030546.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,PT,,1488719493 115348130,115366743,2017-03-05 13:12:38,">>115366625 But dude, being a welfare leech is cool if you are white, I mean, one gotta help out a fellow white man.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488719558 115348130,115366862,2017-03-05 13:13:53,">>115366256 Yeah me too. Although I believe we have to be invited by him or one of the coordinators. He really takes the aristocratic, discriminatory and patrician-only policy seriously. >>115366743 You're not helping the white race by putting us on welfare and safety nets for degenerate behavior, you're making things worse. The situation we're in today is the result of decades of welfare usage and US imperialism after World War I.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488719633 115348130,115366962,2017-03-05 13:14:42,">>115366424 I agree trump is great for America for now. >>115366625 This tho, we wouldn't have nogs who live in public housing driving around in BMWs and shooting people if they had to work for their housing.",,Anonymous,NAP.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1488719682 115348130,115367062,2017-03-05 13:15:32,">>115366625 You can oppose the welfare state without being libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488719732 115348130,115367274,2017-03-05 13:17:40,">>115366862 >I believe we have to be invited by him or one of the coordinators Yeah, afaik, you apply to Kinsella. Should be easy to get in if you're sincere about your views.",,Anonymous,17190646_119624211898384_7281826627263521369_n.jpg,d9qao9JEoQXlQH87ATrkAg==,PT,,1488719860 115348130,115367310,2017-03-05 13:18:06,">>115366862 Not to speak of the fact, that the whole refugee crisis was caused by the welfare state. Without any bullshit gibs nobody would have come in the first place. The sole reason they come is that they don't need to work. And if it was ethnocentrical, the same thing would happen with low life white trash.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488719886 115348130,115367621,2017-03-05 13:20:53,">>115366743 I think this is ironic but, welfare for whites is even worse if you care about white people. it makes the white population squishy and dependant on the states tit while the shittier people become stong and independant from harsh competition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488720053 115348130,115367696,2017-03-05 13:21:34,">>115366413 Centralization inevitably leads to democracy, a constitution needs the ability to become updated and people will find a way to destroy the constitution through there. Letting people change the constitution is the first step of spreading the cancer. And you need to, because no constitution lasts forever. You can't fight people's will if you provide them the abstraction of deciding things that will not affect them directly. There's a big degree of abstractions in the idea of letting refugees in, they will come but you don't think you will see them near you, but when exposed to the market, there's no abstraction, do you want to live with refugees or go to the whitest country possible instead? Even for the most progressive person, the outcome is always clear. Thus why libertarianism, in the Hoppean theory, is the most sustainable way of obtaining prosperous and civilized societies.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1488720094 115348130,115367784,2017-03-05 13:22:25,">>115367274 Kek I follow Kinsella on Zuccbook. It's amazing we can interact with the people we pretty much worship because they're not some stuck up celebrities or arrogant sheep. >>115367310 Indeed.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488720145 115348130,115368064,2017-03-05 13:24:49,">>115367621 Best example for that: Germany/Sweden People on /pol/ talk about how cucked we are, while not once thinking about why that's the case (aside from memes like all the good Germans died in WWII) Nobody criticizes the fact, that every single country in the EU is a social state, and instead blame it on mentality. Forced solidarity is the root of every problem in Europe, because if you think about it, even the concept of the EU is nothing more than a extension of solidarity to a bigger scale.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488720289 115348130,115368065,2017-03-05 13:24:49,">>115367784 >I follow Kinsella on Zuccbook. Me too. Follow Chistopher Chase Rachels as well.",,Anonymous,17156115_1874386506131743_1460759241436703570_n.jpg,QXG0W7mxdnA6s/TdSy75+w==,PT,,1488720289 115348130,115369112,2017-03-05 13:34:01,">>115368065 haven't read Chase Rachels yet, but I'll follow him anyways.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488720841 115348130,115369313,2017-03-05 13:35:32,"LEGIONS OF POL, UNITE!",,Anonymous,POLishLegion.jpg,S8SZn1nmAiU+m+5RzzPTpg==,AU,,1488720932 115348130,115369687,2017-03-05 13:38:45,My favourite general tbqh,,Anonymous,image.jpg,e0PcU8WLKpYWaCXqYJt8sQ==,FR,,1488721125 115348130,115369943,2017-03-05 13:41:14,">>115369687 these generals are the comfiest",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488721274 115348130,115370372,2017-03-05 13:45:21,">>115369687 Thanks for the love, Nazi threads are a ghostown and commie threads are a meme. We run this shit.",,Anonymous,GET OUT.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1488721521 115348130,115370698,2017-03-05 13:48:24,">>115369687 It has a good ratio of constructive discussions and memes and isn't big enough yet to be infested by shitposters.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488721704 115348130,115370784,2017-03-05 13:49:10,,,Anonymous,125109519205125.png,NWtCVud/LCFU0avE1xeDWA==,US,,1488721750 115348130,115370986,2017-03-05 13:50:56,">>115370698 The only shitposters in these threads think they're triggering us with ancap memes, little do they know they are just adding to my meme folder.",,Anonymous,snek (13).jpg,WeiEDcQayx0q3aRb3nKD+g==,US,,1488721856 115348130,115371003,2017-03-05 13:51:03,">>115370453 >>115370453 >>115370453 >>115370453 GET YOUR REDPILL ON ""INDEPENDENT"" CONSERVATIVE PUNDITRY!!! >>115370453 >>115370453 >>115370453 >>115370453",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488721863 115348130,115371271,2017-03-05 13:53:09,">>115371003 fuck off with your salon article faggot.",,Anonymous,1487037765142.jpg,dh/hSQORwZLSwjYerE1deQ==,US,,1488721989 115348130,115371290,2017-03-05 13:53:19,,,Anonymous,anticom11.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,US,,1488721999 115348130,115371400,2017-03-05 13:54:15,">>115371290 is there a face for that lovely rotor fuel?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488722055 115348130,115371542,2017-03-05 13:55:47,">>115371290 >you'd be socially ostrachized and lynched for wearing that here but can wear FCK NZS, anti German and general commie shirts without any backlash Feels bad man.",,Anonymous,1488200114185.jpg,Lr76gs7Nb1gmcW+xrd0jcA==,DE,,1488722147 115348130,115371590,2017-03-05 13:56:10,">>115371271 >if it's a Salon article I won't learn anything You're a fucking dumb bitch retard. They are actually reporting on Cary Katz, who's usurious kike who made a fortune loaning to gullible Goyim. Now he's funding various anti-Obamacare cucks because Obamacare killed the private student loan industry backed by the government. This is actually a good policy and must be retained. Fuck you Katz internet defence force!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488722170 115348130,115371816,2017-03-05 13:58:23,">>115371290 Saving this as woman_worth_impregnating.jpg",,Anonymous,SSkvSQL.jpg,hiOOoeZ+tg5Dh38TS6Lumg==,TR,,1488722303 115348130,115371845,2017-03-05 13:58:36,">>115371290 OK WHOM THIS /LRG/ WAIFU?? >also where do i get shirt? :3",,Anonymous,16472830_2075791055980742_4457123775841105638_n.jpg,AVyBTg1A/9otLKUO0WTp1g==,PT,,1488722316 115348130,115372064,2017-03-05 14:00:32,">>115371845 I would unironically wear a shirt. As a matter of fact, I'm planning on getting a shirt with pic related and ""PRIVATIZE EVERYTHING"" on the bottom, or some other meme caption like ""HELICOPTER.""",,Anonymous,HOPPE POP ART bayona-L.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,PT,,1488722432 115348130,115372249,2017-03-05 14:02:29,">>115348130 Libertarianism is fine, Anarcho capitalism is retarded.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488722549 115348130,115372353,2017-03-05 14:03:34,">>115372064 I want the most fucked insane up ancap ball meme caption on a t-shirt. Anyone got some real edgy ones?",,Anonymous,ancap.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,US,,1488722614 115348130,115372419,2017-03-05 14:04:14,">>115372353 I made these ones a while back, might as well post them",,Anonymous,ancap ball 1.png,3Sr9WskwEOuYm6hyYaFW5g==,PT,,1488722654 115348130,115372442,2017-03-05 14:04:24,">>115366743 Sounds like degeneracy to me. You want the white man to be weak? Your ancestors would never allow for such coddling, that's not how you evolved.",,Anonymous,Thomas-Jefferson-Quote-Entitlement1.jpg,MGP1E8RzdcZBU7nRuvxdVg==,US,,1488722664 115348130,115372456,2017-03-05 14:04:35,,,Anonymous,ancap ball 2.png,6PF5oCf/YHx+EPzrNqtbRA==,PT,,1488722675 115348130,115372487,2017-03-05 14:04:54,,,Anonymous,ancap ball 3.png,ZFvF8/8G3fCFjneG3ZDFwA==,PT,,1488722694 115348130,115372499,2017-03-05 14:05:00,">>115371400 >m'lady",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488722700 115348130,115372521,2017-03-05 14:05:08,">>115371845 Right wing death squad make funny austrian economics tee shirts, I dunno if they make this one though you can likely make one yourself on any printing website https://rwdeathsquad .com/products/free-market-gym-mens",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488722708 115348130,115372533,2017-03-05 14:05:13,">>115371290 Judging from the lips I assume this is Brittany Pettibone",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488722713 115348130,115372534,2017-03-05 14:05:13,,,Anonymous,ancap ball 4.png,CVJ9I5ifApDb8uzgQik+GQ==,PT,,1488722713 115348130,115372578,2017-03-05 14:05:38,">>115372499 >inb4 trap",,Anonymous,ancap ball 5.png,0aTc4L8qU17NZo5X0UBtgw==,PT,,1488722738 115348130,115372587,2017-03-05 14:05:44,">>115372353 they have a few here: https://rwdeathsquad.com/collections/libertarian",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488722744 115348130,115372689,2017-03-05 14:06:36,">>115372533 she's ancap/libertarian? thought she was natsoc doesnt look like her",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488722796 115348130,115372709,2017-03-05 14:06:44,>>115372353,,Anonymous,image.jpg,pYXREi25IgXcQLuZN5eyVQ==,FR,,1488722804 115348130,115372722,2017-03-05 14:06:51,,,Anonymous,Ancom 1.png,s2Hvy4NU+Ml0qZx5WUgJ3w==,CA,,1488722811 115348130,115372800,2017-03-05 14:07:38,">In barely two years, from 1992 to 1994, the radical reforming Estonian government of Mart Laar was the first in Europe to introduce the flat tax, privatized most national industry in transparent public tenders, abolished tariffs and subsidies, stabilized the economy, balanced the budget, and perhaps most crucially, restored the prewar kroon and pegged it to the stable deutsche mark. >Laar claims the only book on economics he had read before becoming prime minister at the age of 32 was Free to Choose by Milton Friedman.",,Anonymous,verrrry hilarious meme circle (haha).png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,EE,,1488722858 115348130,115372921,2017-03-05 14:08:50,">>115372800 Fukken noice. Good on you Toothbrushbro.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488722930 115348130,115372985,2017-03-05 14:09:21,>>115372353,,Anonymous,1488179643729.jpg,zCzawiffi3pFJxuj3+fOqA==,TR,,1488722961 115348130,115373017,2017-03-05 14:09:37,">>115348466 Ostatci socijalističkog režima, nista novo za Hrvatsku nažalost..",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1488722977 115348130,115373026,2017-03-05 14:09:43,">>115371290 From now on, I have a 3d waifu.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488722983 115348130,115373094,2017-03-05 14:10:14,>>115355708,,Anonymous,1485467630330.png,nVtGTzDS/4rX4UVzyhn3Vg==,US,,1488723014 115348130,115373176,2017-03-05 14:10:49,"ANCAPS FIGHTING ANTIFA ON BERKELEY TRUMP MARCH COLORIZED 4th February, 2017 SHADILAY",,Anonymous,17129981_937718506365683_7064088365640974336_n.webm,iOo1hv+VWANZyM1AKy0ynQ==,PT,,1488723049 115348130,115373256,2017-03-05 14:11:32,">>115372587 Legalize recreational nukes is pretty sweet, but I make custom t-shirts at home all the time and will probably print something more fucked up than i could buy. >>115372419 this text is probably the best It captures the essence perfectly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488723092 115348130,115373280,2017-03-05 14:11:50,">>115348466 Taxation is theft!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488723110 115348130,115373288,2017-03-05 14:11:53,">>115373176 that guy with the stick and the shield is a fucking patriot.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488723113 115348130,115373289,2017-03-05 14:11:53,>>115372353,,Anonymous,1476037840242.png,yaBCQQq1/YR4RV/fmrsXGg==,US,,1488723113 115348130,115373437,2017-03-05 14:13:09,">>115373176 It's not Feb. This shit happened yesterday. Your ancestors are smiling at you, alt-knight,",,Anonymous,1474116598186.png,Tex4OvCTT7zMaFDGk0D0Ig==,EE,,1488723189 115348130,115373509,2017-03-05 14:13:45,">>115373289 this may be even better. keep em coming especially if they're short enough to fit on a shirt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488723225 115348130,115373520,2017-03-05 14:13:50,">>115373437 >It's not Feb. >This shit happened yesterday. Fuck, my mistake",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488723230 115348130,115373675,2017-03-05 14:15:09,Anyone else enraged that antifags stole and burned an ancap flag at Berkeley yesterday? Those fuckers should have been shot,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488723309 115348130,115373792,2017-03-05 14:16:09,">>115373675 did they? I thought they failed to get it lit like they are known for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488723369 115348130,115373817,2017-03-05 14:16:20,>>115373509,,Anonymous,1486756642145.jpg,1qfLR1kpoV6dXvD/vW36dA==,US,,1488723380 115348130,115373825,2017-03-05 14:16:23,">>115372064 Hey portugese Hoppe, I just wanted to say that you are officially my /pol/ hero. Keep up the good meme fight!",,Anonymous,14484897_268466766887296_4971960999086412608_n.jpg,3cOfJ/sYVgbJc1HARNKJSg==,DE,,1488723383 115348130,115374038,2017-03-05 14:18:15,">>115373825 Aww thanks bud :3 >when you develop friendships and relationships in a right-wing extremist secession Malaysian website",,Anonymous,1442623-1-L.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,PT,,1488723495 115348130,115374108,2017-03-05 14:18:52,">>115367696 No one claimed centralization, retard. Antimarxism needs to be state policy. Think it through",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488723532 115348130,115374249,2017-03-05 14:20:07,">>115373176 Not only ancaps the guy with the stick is not an ancap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488723607 115348130,115374299,2017-03-05 14:20:32,,,Anonymous,Ancom 2.png,KdwAtcN8gjbGPMPv9wWiLQ==,CA,,1488723632 115348130,115374404,2017-03-05 14:21:30,"The Black Snake Has Awaken. Hail Victory",,Anonymous,snake.jpg,TuPvksX3Fh7vSx/4zUl0/A==,US,,1488723690 115348130,115374415,2017-03-05 14:21:32,">>115374038 You're a cool guy, for a moor.",,Anonymous,1487280974976.png,riDXuiW7MKog8Audno6KZQ==,EE,,1488723692 115348130,115374418,2017-03-05 14:21:33,">>115374108 >Constitution that rules above everyone >No one claimed centralization",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1488723693 115348130,115374553,2017-03-05 14:22:43,Daily reminder that /pol/ is more ancap/libertarian than nazi.,,Anonymous,1392271844975.png,I9N7/mBw7AuUAFqhBqzmfg==,US,,1488723763 115348130,115374856,2017-03-05 14:25:14,,,Anonymous,brotherhood_of_the_snake.jpg,ndOChTvVja1sPGixm4GlBQ==,US,,1488723914 115348130,115374866,2017-03-05 14:25:19,">>115374415 -_-",,Anonymous,1293623-1.jpg,zGDxaE9nc/zJabg+7ToANQ==,PT,,1488723919 115348130,115375713,2017-03-05 14:32:43,">>115348130 Guys is this bad.. Im pretty bad with the economic segment.",,Anonymous,politicu.jpg,U/jKaqRu0s5kSljxQ62hsQ==,NL,,1488724363 115348130,115375830,2017-03-05 14:33:48,">>115375713 You need some more red pill. And red doesn't mean commie.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1488724428 115348130,115375908,2017-03-05 14:34:27,">>115375713 >Im pretty bad with the economic segment The economic segment is what's all about, Aquafresh! You could be a fucking disgusting hippie that I'd think you were cool if you were right-wing economically",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488724467 115348130,115376006,2017-03-05 14:35:26,">>115375713 You better get your shit straight. You don't wanna be there when the day of the removal is upon us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488724526 115348130,115376045,2017-03-05 14:35:43,">>115375713 oh my god don't scare me like that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488724543 115348130,115376099,2017-03-05 14:36:21,">>115375830 I want niggers and arabs out of my country, I think gays shouldnt be promoted and normalized. Yet in closed doors i think people can ""Consensually"" do as they please aslong as it doesnt violate the law. Im pro death penalty for criminals who commit serious crimes. I do think that some people are born inferior and that savage behaviour is a thing and not just ""diffrent culture"" Economically i do think we should stop monopolies from gaining all the power. Also people should respect our authority. I thought i was pretty redpilled wtf man..",,Anonymous,1488401220819.jpg,M9ltw+mOCRWHkVfXEcG6uA==,NL,,1488724581 115348130,115376208,2017-03-05 14:37:24,">>115375713 that quiz is written by a left winger, I suppose. The questions are very biased, don't feel bad for yourself. First time I did the test I landed in the green square (anarcho-syndicalism).",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488724644 115348130,115376329,2017-03-05 14:38:25,">>115376045 >>115376006 >>115375908 Guys what the fuck. Im the one always screaming to have communist to be hung from lantern poles. (Since i dont own a helicopter) Where did i go so wrong..",,Anonymous,feeling it.png,cFGT/Yd7cfumtTGr1Y0ARw==,NL,,1488724705 115348130,115376351,2017-03-05 14:38:37,">>115376099 The thing you need to realize is that monoplies only exist because the state allows them. The government subsidzes specific corporations, thus making it impossible for small enterprises to compete. Even if you think that sounds paradox, with less intervention there will be less monopolies, since competition can always arise.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488724717 115348130,115376581,2017-03-05 14:40:26,">>115376351 I did choose the options that made it so that big companies cant just kick the small companies off of the map to stop mass monopolies. I dont understand where it went so wrong on this chart. Maybe it wouldve been easier or diffrent if it wasnt in english i dont know.",,Anonymous,1484939820058.png,ploxQKwSq3q4LOGTNNRTPQ==,NL,,1488724826 115348130,115376602,2017-03-05 14:40:36,">>115374553 Thanks for propagating this. But I think it was made in 2013 I'd like to see a recount today in a serious poll",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488724836 115348130,115376617,2017-03-05 14:40:45,">>115361844 sir this is an olive garden",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488724845 115348130,115376908,2017-03-05 14:43:05,">>115376208 >>115376581 Shameless shilling for this test. It is much more nuanced and seprates things the compass mixes up. Also you can set emphasises on certain topics. http://politicaltest.net/en/",,Anonymous,politicaltest.png,MxgPjoxLT1D5cU6zBa6dRg==,DE,,1488724985 115348130,115377077,2017-03-05 14:44:35,">>115348130 Why are you a Libertarian and not a Conservative instead?",,Anonymous,Conservatism.jpg,K78Z/YZMvrCaWnRBnP81dA==,IE,,1488725075 115348130,115377255,2017-03-05 14:45:59,">>115376908 Ill try it out",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488725159 115348130,115377316,2017-03-05 14:46:30,">>115376908 >>115376581 This one is also good http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php My results are pic related Will do yours, Hans.",,Anonymous,2017.png,02x68KbgAIEAhFeImN4dfA==,PT,,1488725190 115348130,115377442,2017-03-05 14:47:32,">>115377316 ayy",,Anonymous,term.png,W6w4z2BPOeB9Drr02avlbw==,DE,,1488725252 115348130,115377642,2017-03-05 14:49:13,">>115377077 I am socially conservative, but forcing one's own opinion onto others is unnessesary and also needs a big government. It is much simpler to get together in like minded groups and let the others do what they want, as long as they stay among their own.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488725353 115348130,115377859,2017-03-05 14:50:58,">>115377442 Yay",,Anonymous,image.jpg,jimNmv3+XjEWM0HBoxK4iQ==,FR,,1488725458 115348130,115377933,2017-03-05 14:51:31,">tfw just want to be left alone but the left won't fuck off. when the death squads form i'll be making my own",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1488725491 115348130,115377957,2017-03-05 14:51:45,">>115377442 top kek we got the same. bro-tier Hans. >>115377859 and you too baguette",,Anonymous,me.png,KybVv8UBv+uIJEx2JDOHMg==,PT,,1488725505 115348130,115378078,2017-03-05 14:52:36,">>115377316 >26) We should just nuke our enemies, it's a waste of time to try and deal with them",,Anonymous,1488222463743.png,VOauftodcYjrI1sf2/siiQ==,TR,,1488725556 115348130,115378141,2017-03-05 14:53:06,">>115376329 Hey no problem dutchbro, the last quiz I took I also ended up around your spot, and I want to see leftists impaled on a stake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488725586 115348130,115378602,2017-03-05 14:56:50,">>115376908 its back online? great! lets see if I improved oh and you are pacifistic and allmost cosmopolitan, gay",,Anonymous,political compas 10.08.2016.jpg,tTEuBJdRw8c4Z1eZWbow1Q==,DE,,1488725810 115348130,115378705,2017-03-05 14:57:34,">>115377316 >>115376908 Heres the result. Will check Portubro's one now. I think its not too bad no?",,Anonymous,more politcu.png,MbOHs7jV0cq2TuYqvApCew==,NL,,1488725854 115348130,115378866,2017-03-05 14:58:47,">>115378602 Being communistic How is the plebs dick taste ?",,Anonymous,image.jpg,TLQT6ikELQ6CUPAcU2Ap7A==,FR,,1488725927 115348130,115378879,2017-03-05 14:58:53,https://discord.gg/RhmMPzd,,Anonymous,1486234166983.png,HZC9sCzfTKJHqBrcuxppBw==,US,,1488725933 115348130,115378899,2017-03-05 14:59:02,">>115378602 Used to be higher on both, nationalistic changed because I moved my focuses to economic issues and militaristic changed because I became more isolationistic (and less edgy) over the last years.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488725942 115348130,115379227,2017-03-05 15:01:41,">>115378705 Yeah, I figured the reason you were moved left in the compass was nationalism and protectionism being a bit mixed up. There is still room for improvement but you are far from being a commie.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488726101 115348130,115379352,2017-03-05 15:02:28,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nPEIsqJZ5c they should've used more pepper spray / force",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488726148 115348130,115379675,2017-03-05 15:05:05,">>115379352 >""We're here, we're gay, we're gonna fight the KKK!"" How worthless and pathetic some people are...",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488726305 115348130,115379821,2017-03-05 15:06:17,">>115379675 cringe as fuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488726377 115348130,115380008,2017-03-05 15:07:38,">>115372064 Goddamn that's a nice pic",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1488726458 115348130,115380044,2017-03-05 15:07:56,">>115379227 Danke fur all die feedback brudi, Heres the other one. > Left leaning. If a person told me this i would probably be having a spastic fit before considering assault. But yeah perhaps i am just not well informed enough on some aspects. Im very pro nationalistic but i would also strive for my country to be the best it can be for its people. But ofcourse some people just are shit and expect something for nothing. Those shouldnt get help.",,Anonymous,politicu 3.jpg,ae/kkLbW0AYufHj0gjLEfA==,NL,,1488726476 115348130,115380191,2017-03-05 15:09:09,">>115379821 Oh you probably don't even know how bad it really can get here in the EUSSR.",,Anonymous,1485377603218.png,b//aJNpj6I6JjpZmx7bmYg==,DE,,1488726549 115348130,115380242,2017-03-05 15:09:29,">>115380044 you're a soft nazi. All you need is some /hoppe/ and you're good to go. Just ready any of his books on the OP.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488726569 115348130,115380467,2017-03-05 15:11:14,">>115380191 what the fuck are those?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488726674 115348130,115380510,2017-03-05 15:11:34,">>115380044 >>115380242 Exactly, the thing about Hoppe libertarianism is, you can get together in a group and live as sydicalistic as you want, nobody stops you and you can throw out people you don't like as you please. The thing is, others don't get forced to do the same.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488726694 115348130,115380516,2017-03-05 15:11:37,">>115380242 Will look into it, Thanks Portubro",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488726697 115348130,115380646,2017-03-05 15:12:39,">>115348130 >the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace Comrade, that would violate my autonomy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488726759 115348130,115380691,2017-03-05 15:13:01,">>115380510 Sounds not bad aslong as criminals do get punished for their deeds.",,Anonymous,1488647319832.png,Oi3KIecbAl7O5fVgTbW6GQ==,NL,,1488726781 115348130,115380712,2017-03-05 15:13:14,">>115380467 Those specimens are Biogermans. They are the run of the mill urban student, those specific fuckers are from Munich, Bavaria's least Bavarian place.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488726794 115348130,115380843,2017-03-05 15:14:27,">>115380691 All criminals (people who violate property rights) would be punished. >>115380712 Disgusting animals.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488726867 115348130,115380877,2017-03-05 15:14:44,">>115378141 Good to hear im not the only one",,Anonymous,1484074021089.jpg,f0bcfLt8LNtTNtS4RAhUjg==,NL,,1488726884 115348130,115380993,2017-03-05 15:15:38,">>115380646 Communists aren't people. They also don't have the right to destroy my communities with their faggotry.",,Anonymous,2ok.jpg,KcLwC67cqhJaC6rQEux8Zw==,US,,1488726938 115348130,115381256,2017-03-05 15:17:53,">>115380691 Violating the NAP puts you at the mercy of the victim who has the right of defending himself. So not murdering or stealing. Everything may be legal, but so is discrimination. If you don't support homosexuality, you can't stop them from being that, but you can deny them access onto your property. It's basically a society of perfect gated communities that are allowed to block out niggers, muslims etc. >>115380843 No need to remind me. It is depressing to know that those are funded by taxpayer money while my parents work all week and barely see any money. But that's the inherit problem of a social state, bureaucracy will never work.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488727073 115348130,115381274,2017-03-05 15:18:02,">>115380843 Good, Wouldnt want it any other way. >>115380712 Im only partial german and my gf is from Germany but goddamn it infuriates me what Deutschland has become. I remember going there as a young kid and loving it, The nature and scenery and the relatively humble but strict people.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488727082 115348130,115381368,2017-03-05 15:18:52,">>115381256 Everything else* Violating the NAP is still illegal.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488727132 115348130,115381416,2017-03-05 15:19:16,">>115381256 What becomes of the areas in between the NAP protected communities though? Goverment regulated?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488727156 115348130,115381585,2017-03-05 15:20:37,">>115381416 They're either communal property, because people use them day-to-die and no one lays claim on them, or they're privately-owned, or they're open frontier.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488727237 115348130,115381694,2017-03-05 15:21:26,">>115381416 The NAP is omnipresent. If you attack someone he can defend himself, it doesn't matter where he is. The people just enfoce it themselves, no need for the government to tell them that it is a law. Also this>>115381585",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488727286 115348130,115381706,2017-03-05 15:21:31,">>115348130 Libertarian Discord: https://discord.gg/TvUctU9",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488727291 115348130,115381749,2017-03-05 15:21:55,"RIGHT WING AND SCUM GOOD NIGHT RIGHT WING AND SCUM GOOD NIGHT RIGHT WING AND SCUM GOOD NIGHT GOOD NIGHT GOOD NIGHT",,GOOD NIGHT,FB_IMG_1488745213953.jpg,fe3L80RLBJzM5JJB3zAHQA==,US,,1488727315 115348130,115381874,2017-03-05 15:22:59,"a-am I cool guys? I only took the short version imma take the full one.",,Anonymous,03_05_2017.png,OeOtKCA9oLbz8JezmyVpKA==,US,,1488727379 115348130,115381886,2017-03-05 15:23:02,"RIGHT WING AND SCUM GOOD NIGHT RIGHT WING AND SCUM GOOD NIGHT RIGHT WING AND SCUM GOOD NIGHT GOOD NIGHT",,GOOD NIGHT,FB_IMG_1488678718469.jpg,umu0LkkXhMQgJ5llZF5NwA==,US,,1488727382 115348130,115381997,2017-03-05 15:24:00,"RIGHT WING AND SCUM GOOD NIGHT RIGHT WING AND SCUM GOOD NIGHT RIGHT WING AND SCUM GOOD NIGHT GOOD NIGHT GOOD NIGHT GOOD NIGHT RIGHT WING AND SCUM",,GOOD NIGHT,Screenshot_20170305-001617.png,/7GJ5C4+aULyvQAM3/xppw==,US,,1488727440 115348130,115382108,2017-03-05 15:24:59,">>115381997 >>115381886 >>115381749 shoo shill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488727499 115348130,115382283,2017-03-05 15:26:16,">>115381997 >>115381886 >>115381749 Just Caliexit already so we so we can nuke you guilt free.",,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1488727576 115348130,115382337,2017-03-05 15:26:45,">>115381997 >>115381886 >>115381749 Like I've said, they should've use greater force. Without mercy.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488727605 115348130,115382473,2017-03-05 15:27:46,">>115381749 >>115381886 >>115381997 Capitalismed.",,Anonymous,Kharkiv_Lenin-e1411951644167-1940x1090.jpg,iwLqrXcTlEpmNlWuabuIXw==,DE,,1488727666 115348130,115382520,2017-03-05 15:28:06,">>115381997 thats the guy who got pulled in by 10+ guys and stomped. Ofcourse you look like that when a bunch of sissies gang up on you. >>115381585 >>115381694 Only that part seems a bit difficult to process. For example if the road is owned by a community wich hates you because you kicked out someone they like, So they decided they ban you from using the road. Is this a possible scenario?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488727686 115348130,115382540,2017-03-05 15:28:18,">>115381749 >>115381886 >>115381997 >be antifa >get punched by a skinhead >die Kek",,Anonymous,image.jpg,I5bJK/0x0+4P4SjdwlzZfw==,FR,,1488727698 115348130,115382841,2017-03-05 15:30:36,">>115382540 >be a neo nazi >get your head cracked open by antifa Kek",,GOOD NIGHT,lansing12.jpg,7rB9JSM55GqOZPg83e1CTw==,US,,1488727836 115348130,115382860,2017-03-05 15:30:45,">>115382520 it is possible, but unwise. If they'd do that for everybody they didn't like, they wouldn't make profit and wasted money. Also, if they do that, someone could build a road and accept those other people, giving him an advantage in the market.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488727845 115348130,115382881,2017-03-05 15:30:57,">>115382540 The true definition of BTFO >>115382473 Feels good man.Im glad that kike suffered the last moments of his life.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488727857 115348130,115383002,2017-03-05 15:31:51,">>115382520 Will Geert win?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488727911 115348130,115383026,2017-03-05 15:32:04,">>115382860 Thats a good solution, Thanks for all the responses brudi.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488727924 115348130,115383066,2017-03-05 15:32:20,"Ancaps should be forced to wear the ""I'm not misbehaving I'm autistic patch""",,GOOD NIGHT,FB_IMG_1488745184578.jpg,TgOusgIC4Q05SzwHonsHog==,US,,1488727940 115348130,115383145,2017-03-05 15:32:56,">>115383002 Definetly most seats. Voting PVV but then for Martin Bosma specifically to safe the Afrikaners from the niggers in SA.",,Anonymous,1485032674863.jpg,8o6UJyUBzUPKczwIMjli+w==,NL,,1488727976 115348130,115383262,2017-03-05 15:33:43,">>115383066 >thinking his shilling has any effect Sweetie, you should atleast put more effort into it.",,Anonymous,1487604788495.jpg,a1yv7NCyFpeGfpwXBRDzaw==,DE,,1488728023 115348130,115383369,2017-03-05 15:34:36,">>115383262 No post has any effect on 4chan. Especially on pol. It's a shot post board. But you still responded",,GOOD NIGHT,FB_IMG_1488745198487.jpg,aiUXlkWthiYYwKAmjCs+IQ==,US,,1488728076 115348130,115383398,2017-03-05 15:34:45,">>115383066 Why don't you just get a job, its not that bad. you can make a very good life for yourself.",,Anonymous,GETAJOB.png,Kdwy73hVNYlA5+WRs9IZzQ==,US,,1488728085 115348130,115383481,2017-03-05 15:35:22,">>115382841 You can play the though guys in burgerland because You were no-names but in europe You are the biggest joke of the world Even drunktards can beat You 1-10",,Anonymous,image.jpg,h3fV4co9s6q+YUFXCmBwZw==,FR,,1488728122 115348130,115383619,2017-03-05 15:36:29,">>115383369 Yeah, because i wanted to use the ebin sweetie woman reaction pic. No need to be cocky, anon.",,Anonymous,1488220469550.jpg,rm5rxPPzcw75zYnd3cSHTA==,DE,,1488728189 115348130,115383763,2017-03-05 15:38:00,How do we save Reason from themselves /pol/? They read like Mother Jones with visceral Trump hatred.,,Anon,reason-magazine.png,cZ7b1QH7yd7w7ovnIMGUJw==,US,,1488728280 115348130,115384119,2017-03-05 15:41:54,">>115383481 https://youtu.be/lRkysbpaIjw https://youtu.be/gqNVOdbI1Eg Lad they do fine.",,GOOD NIGHT,,,US,,1488728514 115348130,115384133,2017-03-05 15:41:47,">>115383763 cancel your subscription, stop giving them your money.",,Anonymous,1488643921999.jpg,0fWZHU+rHq7iXfXYwtO4Nw==,US,,1488728507 115348130,115384256,2017-03-05 15:42:54,"So I'm new to this whole libertarianism thing (got introduced to it through Pinochet memes). Would it be accurate to say that libertarianism is a lot like the ancient Greek city-states? I love the idea of those, and think with some modifications it could work on a global scale.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488728574 115348130,115384369,2017-03-05 15:43:37,">>115383066 >""True Individualism"" >Remove the ability to judge value from individuals Instead, it should be judged based on an undefined Platonic ideal, which will end up being a committee decision enforced at gunpoint.",,Anon,16143092_1235592886509028_7354968199221356816_n.png,s0DfvflAbVbQ/f9qsQw/eQ==,US,,1488728617 115348130,115384444,2017-03-05 15:44:04,">>115378602 did I improve?",,Anonymous,political test 05.03.2017.png,kaRtFoWM0IS3266oRj9UAA==,DE,,1488728644 115348130,115384445,2017-03-05 15:44:01,"took full test, why am I such an asshole? I like animals I swear I don't want to kill them.",,Anonymous,03_05_2017.png,/5P+z1b9wyMzJAphbPpFJQ==,US,,1488728641 115348130,115384471,2017-03-05 15:44:12,what am I considered?,,Anonymous,rVAKsQm.png,rk9Q2YnPOlJYYK1GWPixfA==,US,,1488728652 115348130,115384620,2017-03-05 15:45:21,here's results from test on the other site,,Anonymous,WcllqKN.png,u/Uw7U7IgwPTK5K8RjmlnQ==,US,,1488728721 115348130,115384646,2017-03-05 15:45:40,">>115384133 Sauce anon? She should play Dagny to my Rearden, if you know what I mean.",,Anon,6519303._SX540_.jpg,W/bTdqA8kqsN5tRK6EWp2w==,US,,1488728740 115348130,115384654,2017-03-05 15:45:52,>>115384389,,Anonymous,,,HR,,1488728752 115348130,115384695,2017-03-05 15:46:13,">>115384445 Don't worry, you have to be incredibly deluded in order to get ecological. >think monkey should get human rights >eating meat makes you literally hitler >dude, fuck the economy, this flowerd is dying Believe me, you are more than fine.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488728773 115348130,115384758,2017-03-05 15:46:48,">>115383145 Will he form a government or will FVV or whatever cock block them?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488728808 115348130,115384940,2017-03-05 15:48:25,">>115384256 Not ancient Greek city states, but city states with imperial immediacy during the Holy Roman Empire and much of medieval (feudal and absolute monarchy) Europe.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488728905 115348130,115385314,2017-03-05 15:51:19,">>115384940 Could you provide examples? Gonna research it later.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488729079 115348130,115385673,2017-03-05 15:54:07,">>115385314 Let's go over to the Hoppe thread then >>115385565",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488729247 115348130,115385748,2017-03-05 15:54:40,"HOPPE THREAD >>115385565 >>115385565 >>115385565 HOPPE THREAD >>115385565 >>115385565 >>115385565 HOPPE THREAD >>115385565 >>115385565 >>115385565",,Anonymous,hoppe flag.jpg,QLIUZ26a1MH/Uo1nSn8nPw==,PT,,1488729280 115348130,115385854,2017-03-05 15:55:34,">>115385748 right on didn't realize thread is almost kill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488729334 115348130,115385907,2017-03-05 15:55:59,">>115371290 HNNNNNNNNNNG",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1488729359 115348130,115386562,2017-03-05 16:01:10,">>115378899 be carefull not to put wealth above blood mate.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488729670 115348130,115386884,2017-03-05 16:03:37,">>115386562 Family before anything m8. But in order to provide for them one needs to be as efficent as possible.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488729817 115348130,115387265,2017-03-05 16:06:40,">>115384445 thinking that humans are less important then animals doesnt make you an asshole but it makes you a sucidical imbicile.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488730000 115807214,115807214,2017-03-08 16:32:45,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads Libertarian/Ancap/pol Discord: https://discord.gg/TvUctU9",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Libertarian pol.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1488990765 115807214,115807281,2017-03-08 16:33:22,,,Anonymous,AnCap.png,cUAAwat8jfX4Cvj8OAsyWQ==,US,,1488990802 115807214,115807403,2017-03-08 16:34:22,,,Anonymous,Quiet Kaffir.png,PxJfT+aVpEdxBkHTYDcHUg==,US,,1488990862 115807214,115807418,2017-03-08 16:34:32,I'm waiting for that portuguese faggot to start spamming hoppe pictures that no one reads.,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1488990872 115807214,115807738,2017-03-08 16:37:32,">>115807403 impressive, my father, being over 70, he dies in the street ?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991052 115807214,115807774,2017-03-08 16:37:49,">>115807214 Ayn Rand was a jew who lived off social security.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488991069 115807214,115807859,2017-03-08 16:38:28,">>115807738 if the market can't provide for him yes",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991108 115807214,115807943,2017-03-08 16:39:12,">>115807774 Ayn Rand wasn't a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488991152 115807214,115808149,2017-03-08 16:40:57,">>115807859 As it should",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488991257 115807214,115808196,2017-03-08 16:41:19,,,Anonymous,1488747323804-pol.jpg,23l3y8HiPFKwIXz5FisiSw==,GB,,1488991279 115807214,115808294,2017-03-08 16:42:08,">>115808196 We'll have jetpacks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488991328 115807214,115808328,2017-03-08 16:42:31,">>115807738 Would you let your father die? If you didn't care for him, it would be your fault if he dies, not the fault of everybody else.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488991351 115807214,115808503,2017-03-08 16:44:00,">>115807738 >If people don't give my father money he will die Why don't you? We all have fathers to take care of. You sound like a terrible son.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1488991440 115807214,115808682,2017-03-08 16:45:40,">>115807859 fair enough, I seem to be mistaking economics with politics",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991540 115807214,115809058,2017-03-08 16:48:56,">>115808682 Look you and your father are free to join a socialist collective",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991736 115807214,115809141,2017-03-08 16:49:35,">>115808328 >>115808503 It's not just my father (he is doing fine), if you only reward winners (there can only be one winner), what about the others ? That's not how sports work.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991775 115807214,115809256,2017-03-08 16:50:37,">>115808682 Besides wallonia's economy is fucked because of social programmes",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991837 115807214,115809296,2017-03-08 16:51:02,">>115809058 some corrupt gang of maffia crooks, no thanks",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991862 115807214,115809321,2017-03-08 16:51:16,">>115809141 >there can only be one winner Not the same Belgian you are arguing with but there can be mutiple winners.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991876 115807214,115809393,2017-03-08 16:51:52,">>115809141 If you lose you either get backed by your family or some charity organization or you can gladly fuck off for all that I care. My family always has my back, so that'd be not an issue for me and that is all I care for.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1488991912 115807214,115809438,2017-03-08 16:52:18,">>115809141 >there can only be one winner May the best father survive.",,Anonymous,Hoppe ancap.jpg,QLIUZ26a1MH/Uo1nSn8nPw==,SI,,1488991938 115807214,115809490,2017-03-08 16:52:47,"SO this is a belgian thread, is belgium converting to libertarianism/ancap",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991967 115807214,115809527,2017-03-08 16:53:06,So many freaking Belgians in here i'm /out/,,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488991986 115807214,115809533,2017-03-08 16:53:09,Bumping with best snek,,Anonymous,dont tread on my wife.png,GASqj1gE3FW0Kf2gu/6xbw==,US,,1488991989 115807214,115809615,2017-03-08 16:53:48,">>115807738 You sound like a shit son.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1488992028 115807214,115809616,2017-03-08 16:53:49,Hello there Belgiumbros!,,Anonymous,1481033688998.jpg,bkBrfjCHhodiI1QcpOkLqw==,BE,,1488992029 115807214,115809702,2017-03-08 16:54:33,">>115809141 But even the ""losers"" in wealthy societies are better off than some of the winners in shitholes. If you had nothing in your pocket and you had to pick a country, would you move to country A which is full of rich people or to country B where everyone is equally poor?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1488992073 115807214,115809704,2017-03-08 16:54:34,">>115809256 NVA, typical leaches, buying flemish votes with money, you are fucking worse than walloons",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488992074 115807214,115809837,2017-03-08 16:55:40,">>115807214 >lolbertarian right yea, ok, whatever you say hippy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488992140 115807214,115809952,2017-03-08 16:56:34,">>115809704 Calmez toi Guillaume.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488992194 115807214,115809984,2017-03-08 16:56:53,">>115809837 >REEEEEEEE DO WHAT I SAY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488992213 115807214,115810012,2017-03-08 16:57:06,">>115809393 feudalism version 2017, not even I am stupid enough to think that will work",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488992226 115807214,115810064,2017-03-08 16:57:29,">>115809704 I am a walloon you dumb fuck",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488992249 115807214,115810155,2017-03-08 16:58:14,">>115810012 That is not feudalism",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488992294 115807214,115810192,2017-03-08 16:58:34,">>115809984 Men must be governed, however much that may hurt your fee fees",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488992314 115807214,115810397,2017-03-08 17:00:26,">>115809615 I know, but there is this big elephant in my room. inb4 a pink elephant",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488992426 115807214,115810419,2017-03-08 17:00:36,">>115810192 >I need someone to tell me how to live. Men? Sounds more like a child",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488992436 115807214,115810429,2017-03-08 17:00:39,">>115810192 YEs By the market",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488992439 115807214,115810476,2017-03-08 17:01:02,">>115810192 And let me guess. You get to govern them because you know best, right?",,Anonymous,Sobel.gif,lzHWVDNLoTVN5VmrH3IN6Q==,SI,,1488992462 115807214,115810497,2017-03-08 17:01:14,Minarchism best ism,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488992474 115807214,115810744,2017-03-08 17:03:23,BUMP,,Anonymous,when-theres-roads-ancap-.png,I5jPxYuMuxHGHuiWp0ZOsw==,BE,,1488992603 115807214,115810774,2017-03-08 17:03:39,">>115810419 >muh live free and wild, nobody gonna tell me what to do Time to grow up anon >>115810429 >meme market >>115810476 No, I know my place in society. Too many people refuse to accept the reality of their situation, it's pretty unhealthy for society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488992619 115807214,115811050,2017-03-08 17:06:03,">>115810774 You put your faith into a system that is easily corrupted. You believe the state is entitled to the money you earn. You need government to protect you. You put your faith into man and deny the fact that man only favors himself. That's why we need a system that thrives off of that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488992763 115807214,115811052,2017-03-08 17:06:03,">>115810774 >""time to grow up"" >needs to be told what to do and what not to do by daddy gubmint",,Anonymous,1484846017095.jpg,m0wO6xOTFpF7+B68vDjcUg==,DE,,1488992763 115807214,115811079,2017-03-08 17:06:22,">>115810774 >No, I know my place in society. Is this you?",,Anonymous,Cuck Antifa.jpg,DgZg9K2h3clt7kIMBlGuNA==,SI,,1488992782 115807214,115811097,2017-03-08 17:06:30,">>115810774 I'd agree that some level of dicatatorship such as monarchy are preferable to the barbaric rule of the masses, that is not the point of libertarianism/ancap",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488992790 115807214,115811638,2017-03-08 17:11:04,">>115810064 stop imposing your stupid language on me",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488993064 115807214,115811782,2017-03-08 17:12:16,">>115810064 A right wing Walloon That is pretty rare to see!",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488993136 115807214,115812067,2017-03-08 17:14:46,"Anarcho-Capitalism is JUST as DELUSIONAL as COMMUNISM. If you want your country to be taken over by mexican druglords who will institute their own bought & paid for police state, and constantly feud with eachother over control using violent rather than any sort of political means, go ahead and support anarcho-capitalism. If you want your country to be completely taken over by rich kikes, or any other corrupt force, who will pool money and then use it to overpower whatever shitty ass police force you paid for, support anarcho-capitalism. Anarcho-capitalists should move to brazil, or mexico, and see what their political philosophy would REALLY look like. Ancaps literally can't refute this. They are too retarded to understand that human nature is corrupt and needs to be checked by the force of law, unmotivated by money. And that almost all corruption is BECAUSE OF MONEY. IF YOU'RE ANCAP YOU NEED TO STOP BEING AS UNREALISTIC AS A GODDAMN COMMIE",,Anonymous,ancap paradise.jpg,KEb86fokXXKDhJ3iQlA4Gw==,US,,1488993286 115807214,115812117,2017-03-08 17:15:08,">>115811079 u kno antifa is pretty close to antifag, if u just went around with a sharpie scrawling g's on on the antifa posters it would be pretty pointless i guess",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1488993308 115807214,115812219,2017-03-08 17:15:58,">>115807214 Opinions on the most principled Ancap Christopher Cantwell? Best of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJN-lWOcuSI",,Anonymous,Download.jpg,KX6ejDND3eIy0LxDTw26BA==,RU,,1488993358 115807214,115812243,2017-03-08 17:16:10,">>115811050 >You put your faith into a system that is easily corrupted. Corruption is reality, you're never going to change that. >You believe the state is entitled to the money you earn. The state is entitled because their legitimacy is backed by arms, as it has always been and will always be. >>115811052 >acting like a child >accuse others of being immature ok anon >>115811079 >subhman slav accuses fascist of being antifa Welp >>115811097 Libertarianism/ancap isn't really all that compatible with a dictatorship, I would say.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488993370 115807214,115812413,2017-03-08 17:17:26,Lol eat shit you bootlicking classcucks,,Anonymous,image.jpg,uvmtlr1Es7ElNqiqhIq8rQ==,US,,1488993446 115807214,115812537,2017-03-08 17:18:25,Why are there so many Belgian broeders here?,,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488993505 115807214,115812578,2017-03-08 17:18:54,">>115809438 AK is proletariat gun dude we use rocket launchers",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488993534 115807214,115812685,2017-03-08 17:19:38,">>115812537 OMM",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488993578 115807214,115812877,2017-03-08 17:21:01,I'd like for an anarcho-capitalist to try and refute anything I've written here >>115812067,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488993661 115807214,115812927,2017-03-08 17:21:22,">>115812243 >you have to pay them or else. That's exactly what my problem with taxes is. States have proven to act in sefl interest time and time again. We need a system that people are not in control off. Is that full ancap or something else idk. I'm open for discussion bit one thing is clear. If you put people in control of everything then they end up fucking everyone else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488993682 115807214,115813064,2017-03-08 17:22:23,">>115812243 also that corruption that boils down to greed can be used to form a better world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488993743 115807214,115813191,2017-03-08 17:23:22,">>115812243 No I'm accusing you of being a cuck. >muh strong leader You have severe daddy issues. Sort yourself out before you go forcing your views on others. >subhman slav Speaks volumes about about you when you're dumber than a subhuman then. For all I know you're a crackhead from Detroit. But more likely just Hitler worshipping trailer trash that no one outside this North Korean rat trapping forum takes seriously.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488993802 115807214,115813318,2017-03-08 17:24:13,">>115812877 What's stopping others from competing for the same?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488993853 115807214,115813345,2017-03-08 17:24:23,">>115812537 just me",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488993863 115807214,115813461,2017-03-08 17:25:19,">>115807214 Oh god. Libertarian SCUM, the very reason our country let the enemy in the back door ""do what you want as long as it doesnt hurt me, but I will pretend society and culture dont exist and watch it get flushed down the toilet."" DIE!! you are the SAME kind of fucking piece of shit traitors that starting the ethno-masochistic genocide in Europe. NAP = GRAB YOUR ANKLES BOHIC",,Anonymous,Anders-Behring-Breivik-008.jpg,W/P5MTGtqBTP7qIOEz4Q2g==,US,,1488993919 115807214,115813485,2017-03-08 17:25:32,">>115813318 Can you phrase the question in a less unclear way?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488993932 115807214,115813578,2017-03-08 17:26:06,">>115812685 represent",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488993966 115807214,115813855,2017-03-08 17:28:10,">>115813318 in football you have the big names, but they have to arrive from somewhere, you can't just have messi come out of nowhere",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488994090 115807214,115813874,2017-03-08 17:28:20,">>115813485 Sorry lol. What's stopping others from trying to control the police forces like you said? It would turn into a huge battle that ultimately because of the amount of different players would result in a stale mate. People would relise it's pointless to even try.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994100 115807214,115813965,2017-03-08 17:28:57,">>115812927 >That's exactly what my problem with taxes is. Well that's too bad. >We need a system that people are not in control off Dreams is all that is. With a power vacuum comes those who are willing and able to take power, and you're right back where you started, or possibly in a worse situation. >>115813064 >also that corruption that boils down to greed can be used to form a better world. >can I don't necessarily disagree with greed not being a bad thing, but any benefit is only going to be a side effect. >>115813191 >No I'm accusing you of being a cuck. Said the lolbertarian. Germans are just the same as you to me, anglo pride worldwide.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994137 115807214,115814068,2017-03-08 17:29:58,">>115807214 what's the moral justification of helicopter rides? I mean the ones where people are asked to leave before landing.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1488994198 115807214,115814327,2017-03-08 17:32:01,">>115813965 >can >means it can't Name one government that can be trusted. That's my point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994321 115807214,115814381,2017-03-08 17:32:27,">>115813965 unfortunately for you, the 'lolbertarian' is the correct guy to fill that power vacuum, as inperfect as he might be",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488994347 115807214,115814425,2017-03-08 17:32:54,">>115812243 Corruption is reality, but there are ways to leverage corruption against success, it's called transparency",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994374 115807214,115814469,2017-03-08 17:33:17,">>115809490 I hope so. The Belgian government is just a criminal organisation that gained control over the violence-monopoly at this point",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488994397 115807214,115814497,2017-03-08 17:33:29,">>115814068 As long as they have a different political view than me. It's all good",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994409 115807214,115814517,2017-03-08 17:33:37,">>115812877 Cartels don't exist if drugs are legal and use is minimized. Feuds cost money so the best solution is leave each other alone. And why would you think the police force would be shitty? The state is notorious for corruption and inefficiency. The richfags would be better off taking over the current system. But guess what. They can't do that. The best they can do is corrupt it. And in ancap corruption is minimized through the free market. >move to a failed state for real ancap Garbage argument. If ancap is the consequence of a failed government that means the people chose it over the government because the govt was so shit.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488994417 115807214,115814531,2017-03-08 17:33:41,">>115809141 If you distribute the awards of the winner to the others, why the fuck would humanity ever strive to do anything?",,Anonymous,1487455412238.gif,Fqds7Q43sFuksmTK1e7eMQ==,US,,1488994421 115807214,115814627,2017-03-08 17:34:32,">>115814381 pft lolbertarianism would create a power vacuum. >>115814327 Who said anything about trust?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994472 115807214,115814784,2017-03-08 17:35:44,">>115813874 Again, it would be like Brazil or Mexico. Look at how hard it is for the Mexican GOVERNMENT to control Drug Cartels. Unless you could create a force of far greater strength you really wouldn't stand a chance. You can say well we would allow the drug cartels to sell drugs freely in our area, and therefore they wouldn't go to war with us, and that works until you realize that if you try and sell drugs yourself you get beheaded, and the cartels will most likely form a monopoly on all goods, corrupt YOUR police force with their greater funds or with terror (which they are so much more willing to do than your more moral group) and eventually you end up living under their rule as serfs, far worse off than you would be under a capitalist democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994544 115807214,115815047,2017-03-08 17:37:54,">>115814627 come up with a better idea",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488994674 115807214,115815098,2017-03-08 17:38:21,">>115814784 >cartels in a free market Stop.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488994701 115807214,115815145,2017-03-08 17:38:46,">>115814784 are you assuming??? mexicans??????? would be able to subvert???????? and enslave????????????? WHITES??????????????????? in what ""ocracy"" would that EVER happen?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994726 115807214,115815202,2017-03-08 17:39:17,">>115812067 >Cartels Drugs would be legal in ancapistan assuming whatever property owners allow it. And what a shitty example for you to make that mexico somehow represents an ancap society when their public police force has been completely bought and paid for, and the u.s prohibition on drugs has allowed the cartels to exist. South american shitholes are generally doomed by public corruption and half assed socialist policies that feed into yet more corruption. Your whole point is that money corrupts people and then you suggest that there must a monopoly on security provided by the state that is already corrupt and the consumer has no choice about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994757 115807214,115815351,2017-03-08 17:40:31,">>115814784 They couldn't maintain it in a free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994831 115807214,115815504,2017-03-08 17:41:42,">>115814517 >Cartels don't exist if drugs are legal and use is minimized. All corporations would essentially be allowed to act as cartels regardless. They would be able to quickly create a paid army to MAKE YOU buy their product. >Feuds cost money so the best solution is leave each other alone. Until the point of the Feud is to centralize control, which will lead to even more money. Then the feud becomes worth it, especially if you believe you can easily takeover, which a rich and immoral corporation unchecked would do. Look at a corporation such Monsanto. If they could take over a large area simply by paying people to do so, do you think they wouldn't do it for the ridiculous capital/power gains?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994902 115807214,115815698,2017-03-08 17:43:17,">>115815351 They would be able to maintain it with force, easily bought & paid for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488994997 115807214,115815808,2017-03-08 17:44:14,">>115815098 See >>115815504",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995054 115807214,115815811,2017-03-08 17:44:14,">>115812067 What if wealth wasn't based on money and was simply based on bartering goods",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995054 115807214,115815876,2017-03-08 17:44:47,">I want to have a free, privatized economy and military but have no governmnet What the fuck is the difference between this and anarcho-primitivism? Aren't you just essentially tribes living isolated from the world, then? What's to stop you and your ""free non-gubbment boot lickers"" from being invaded from millions of troops from neighboring countries looking for some land? How the fuck are you supposed to protect your borders without a government? Private militias? Sure, ancap may seem like the perfect dream, but it doesn't seem like it will ever work in reality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995087 115807214,115816010,2017-03-08 17:45:47,">>115815876 These people have no conception of the power of a modern centralized military force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995147 115807214,115816081,2017-03-08 17:46:21,">>115815504 >hey, it costs me 6 dollars to manufacture X and I sell it for 8, i'm making money :D >hey, it costs me 6 dollars to make the product and 1300 dollars per troop per week to force people to consume it... i'll just put the difference on the card",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995181 115807214,115816280,2017-03-08 17:48:08,">>115815504 You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. You know insurance companies would basically act as a police force, right? You're not just gonna have companies terrorizing people. There is still law and a justice system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEQmuaJeew >you can easily takeover, which a rich and immoral corporation unchecked would do And a rich and immoral state can already fuck you up right now. So what's your point? The defense companies would gang up on you if you were a threat of expanding influence.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488995288 115807214,115816432,2017-03-08 17:49:21,">>115815698 politics trumps economics, power wise, because basically, that is what politics are about",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488995361 115807214,115816559,2017-03-08 17:50:22,>>115814068,,Anonymous,1486084419779.png,t9v2a9vrXkVG3hw8psjqDQ==,GB,,1488995422 115807214,115816635,2017-03-08 17:51:01,">>115816280 >There is still law and a justice system. It's just paid for rather than democratically instituted? Sounds wayy better m8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995461 115807214,115816692,2017-03-08 17:51:33,"I will tell my fellow serpents a tip that is as good as insider trading. The seasteaders who want to make independent artificial islands. If they succeed in their prototypes, tons of independent islands will sprout up, mainly less represented types of government. Invest and take bets on the ancap ones that will outcompete everyone else, and invest in casinos off the coast of Japan while you're at it. Happy shekels.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995493 115807214,115816813,2017-03-08 17:52:37,">>115815047 Fascism, old boy. >>115815351 You wouldn't be able to stop them without organized resistance to their manipulations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995557 115807214,115816983,2017-03-08 17:54:01,">>115815876 >Private militias? Sure why not? You could still have restrictions like the current system does. Except training and equipment would be cheaper. >>115816635 >It's just paid for rather than democratically instituted? Sounds wayy better m8 Yea it does. Look at Sweden. You think a judge that gives pedo rapists parole sentences would last long in a free market?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488995641 115807214,115817030,2017-03-08 17:54:19,">>115816635 >It's just paid for rather than democratically instituted are you assuming democratic institutions aren't paid for? you gotta get over the free lunch mindset before you even talk about ancapism m8 this thread is basically conservatives arguing with a liberal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995659 115807214,115817084,2017-03-08 17:54:42,">>115816983 You think rich pedos would get sentenced under anarchocapitalism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995682 115807214,115817113,2017-03-08 17:54:56,">>115815876 >>115816010 Hoppe touches on this. Outside of totalitarian dictatorships which are getting rarer and rarer these days, invasion requires public support. What are the reasons for invasions based on? The actions of the government you are attacking, ie X government funded so and so group, X government has attacked your ally. Following this the governmental system is demonized. No one came to kill random people, they came to kill the national socialists and their central government. The point I'm making is it's much harder to justify a war when you have no government to attack and you are instead attacking a random group of people who have done nothing but peacefully trade with you. Imagine if for the last 100 years american armed forces had never set foot on arab soil, I doubt ISIS would have near the propaganda. But what about just invading to acquire land? While possible imagine if the united states decided to invade congo tomorrow for no reason of state sponsored terrorism, no dictator to dispose, no hostile action, they just wanted some land. The other world powers condemn the war as an expansionist conquest and shun the country invading. Of course if someone did attack defense agencies could coordinate because after all they are defending a business, deals for foreign pmc's could be struck etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995696 115807214,115817156,2017-03-08 17:55:14,">>115815876 The bumfucks who ineviyably try to take over the first ancapistan would face 1) A very difficult population to make money off 2) Endless guerrilla war from militias 3)Mcnukes if they have them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995714 115807214,115817423,2017-03-08 17:57:20,">>115817084 Absolutely. Much more likely when they could lose their business rather than operating under a monopoly where there's no consequences for corruption. Do I really need to dig up all those affluenza stories? And how about celebrities walking away with literal murder?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488995840 115807214,115817430,2017-03-08 17:57:24,">>115816813 > fascism I'm going to kill, you stupid nigger",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488995844 115807214,115817534,2017-03-08 17:58:21,">>115815876 um free market or something something NAP basically the same as communists, in that if everyone thought like them and wasn't subject to greed and corruption it'd be a perfect system. >>115816983 >Sure why not? Because you'd get stomped by an organized military force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488995901 115807214,115817575,2017-03-08 17:58:38,"I did read 'what must be done' before 'democracy the god that failed' and I seem to remember it was really mediocre the 'guideline' one should follow to erradicate the state, I seem to remember it was 'agorism' + 'give shares of state property to people czech style' IMO it seems impractiable since it requires, and I think he did explecitly say this, a libertarian majority If libertarianism was impracticable there would be no reason to work as described by Hoppe in the above essay. What alternative is there? I think since our goal is erradication of communism, we should use the best tool available for this end, and what has been proven as the best way of killing communists? COMMUNISM That's why, I, as a libertarian, support UBI and communism in Spain. I just want to see this country crash with no survivors. I want one more proof that communism doesn't work. I want people to point to the spanish famines of the 20s (i.e. 2020s) that caused the death of 20 milion spaniards as further proof that communism has not and will never work. Does this make any sense or have I gone completely mad Kazinsky style?",,Anonymous,1466332398169.jpg,wASfrJqkbhInZMqf/IEUHQ==,ES,,1488995918 115807214,115817691,2017-03-08 17:59:37,">>115817156 >Mcnukes if they have them >if Heh he thinks it's a meme. >>115817534 >Because you'd get stomped by an organized military force. Like Academi?",,Anonymous,Ancap.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,SI,,1488995977 115807214,115817981,2017-03-08 18:01:46,">>115807214 If I'm paying taxes it's only to help poor people and not to whatever",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488996106 115807214,115817995,2017-03-08 18:01:52,">>115807738 He had 70 years to accumulate his wealth. If he doesn't have enough to live off at that age or have children that can support him then he was a failure of a man",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488996112 115807214,115818119,2017-03-08 18:02:54,">>115817430 Don't be mad, your system a unsustainable shit. >>115817691 Academi are bodyguards and glorified security guards, a conventional military would blow them and your faggy militia out of the water. It's obvious you don't know shit about military matters or warfare, so stop while you're ahead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488996174 115807214,115818248,2017-03-08 18:03:48,">>115817575 His bottom up revolution is based on local communities. And like he says it's very likely that not only could they be made but they already exist. The major point is that the government would be fighting a losing battle. If they're willing to execute or imprison everyone they're risking massive backlash. And if they try to police the community they'll not only be ignored but it would also be expensive and unsustainable.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488996228 115807214,115818365,2017-03-08 18:04:43,">>115817575 Kind of get what you are saying, in one way this in dangerous because as soon as you give people entitlements it's impossible to take them away, take the current U.S medical debacle. Taking the country to such a point it crashes with no survivors might work but how many would be free men have to suffer in the meantime? Millions of russians died before their retarded system collapsed. I don't really know the political situation in spain enough to say but an interesting question.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488996283 115807214,115818428,2017-03-08 18:05:08,">>115817575 We outmeme other people on here, too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488996308 115807214,115818554,2017-03-08 18:06:09,">>115817995 I can' really say he was a failure of man, you understand ? But he wasn't Justin Trudeau, solving inequality worldwide.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488996369 115807214,115818756,2017-03-08 18:07:40,">>115818119 >Academi are bodyguards and glorified security guards >veterans and special task force members Kek. If I could bet on a private vs state army of the same funding I'd put my money on private every time. The only reason they operate that way now is because they're controversial.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488996460 115807214,115818793,2017-03-08 18:07:57,">>115818119 >Don't be mad, your system a unsustainable shit. >Fascist In a capitalist global market, please explain to me how a fascist system would thrive? North Korea is basically a fascists wet dream and yet the people are starving, the economy has decayed, the people have civil rights, the government is corrupt to high hell and they have no foreign investment. But somehow libertarians are the ones living in a fantasy land?",,Anonymous,76593464.jpg,eeD3byL0Kdxqeeu+jztITQ==,CA,,1488996477 115807214,115818847,2017-03-08 18:08:21,">>115818248 Did he write more extensively on the subject somewhere else? Anyway I still don't see how local communities can achieve any significant level of wealth, since nowadays labor is divided internationally you need imports ... that go through customs ... and need to make payments ... that go through banks What I mean to say is these local communities are unable to compete since the would be barred from international commerce since they cant deal with banks (they would get embargoed because they don't pay taxes) and their stuff would be seized as it goes through customs",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1488996501 115807214,115818881,2017-03-08 18:08:49,">>115818793 he people have no civil rights*",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488996529 115807214,115819051,2017-03-08 18:10:04,">>115818881 the*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488996604 115807214,115819157,2017-03-08 18:10:55,">>115819051 Yeah I cocked that up real good didn't I?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488996655 115807214,115819506,2017-03-08 18:13:53,">>115817995 Correct regardless of whether you were being ironic or not. However the unfair thing about this is that most older folks have paid into social security. That's the fucked up thing about social security - especially now that it's literally a Ponzi scheme - Originally social security was paid for by the generation who would be using it; so if you killed the program those who paid in would get their investments back. But now if the next generation isn't paying for the last generation, then the last generation gets fucked. So the next generation is fucked. Marxists in government fucked all of you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488996833 115807214,115819527,2017-03-08 18:14:05,>>115807214,,Anonymous,1jyfql.jpg,sz+xEJgavTUBWbWEhIs9vQ==,US,,1488996845 115807214,115819632,2017-03-08 18:15:04,">>115818756 >>Academi are bodyguards and glorified security guards >>veterans and special task force members That is correct. They do not have the makings of a conventional military, they do not operate as such. They provide site security and close protection details, as well as consulting and training. Force on force, a conventional military would slaughter them. What? Did you think they went in like an actual army and kick ass? You're ignorant and uninformed. The reason they operate the way they do, and always have, is because PMC/mercenaries are not allowed to operate like they used.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488996904 115807214,115819650,2017-03-08 18:15:12,">>115818847 >Did he write more extensively on the subject somewhere else? Not that I'm aware of. You'd have to ask the Portugal Hoppe guy. There's also this presentation where he talks about it near the end but it's mostly the same stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c As for the embargo. You could gain the sympathy of the population saying you do that to countries you're at war with and you don't want war you just want freedom and trade. But the state is still the state so yea, it's a long shot. You'd have to be mostly autonomous and prepared to take a hit to living standards. But hey, that's what revolutions usually entail. At least this has way more chance of it being peaceful.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488996912 115807214,115819907,2017-03-08 18:17:32,"Seriously American libertarians what the fuck is up with your party? Was the whole cringe video just meme shit or is it an accurate representation of American libertarianism (dude weed lmao)? French libertarians are almost entirely liberal-conservatives so it strikes me as odd.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488997052 115807214,115819936,2017-03-08 18:17:43,">>115819632 But they are effective at what they do. What's your problem? Do you really not see that if there was a demand on the market for a military that soldiers could be trained? I can't even comprehend this """"logic"""".",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488997063 115807214,115819974,2017-03-08 18:18:00,Any of you crazy sons of bitches know what a decent private army would cost me?,,Anonymous,Merc.gif,/XsILMleFfM3zyhricE9Rw==,US,,1488997080 115807214,115820093,2017-03-08 18:19:09,">>115818756 fucking army is the lapdogs of hillary",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488997149 115807214,115820240,2017-03-08 18:20:19,">>115819936 >But they are effective at what they do. What's your problem? You didn't even know what they do. You're talking out your ass, you don't know shit about military matters.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488997219 115807214,115820504,2017-03-08 18:22:27,">>115820093 and she's a crook, so",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488997347 115807214,115820570,2017-03-08 18:23:01,">>115820240 No I think you just got smacked by a boot to the face one too many times and can't use your brain. So now you argue over semantics like a broken record instead of producing actual arguments.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488997381 115807214,115820637,2017-03-08 18:23:34,">>115819907 Gary johnson and pretty much all the rest of them are traitor cucks. Unfortunately the libertarian party for most people is >I dont like republicans >I dont like democrats >dude weed and abortions and shit I admit I used to be the same way and just thought it was about increasing a few personal liberties. We desperately require new hoppe influenced right libertarians to save the party. However some of the ideas are pretty radical to the average person and you can't expect them to go read some books.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488997414 115807214,115820739,2017-03-08 18:24:26,So if there was an anarcho-commune town in ancapistan would you let them be? Would you send mercenaries after them? Would that be a good move? What if they are those Christian early church LARPers?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1488997466 115807214,115820775,2017-03-08 18:24:42,">>115820240 if a random gang of criminals seize the power over the army, they have unlimited power",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488997482 115807214,115820839,2017-03-08 18:25:31,">>115820739 >So if there was an anarcho-commune town in ancapistan would you let them be? Of course. They would be free to fail utterly and blame the market, just like that communist town in Spain.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1488997531 115807214,115820881,2017-03-08 18:25:56,">>115820570 >your argument well id just hire a private army like that academi >me you don't know what your talking about >you hurr u just dumb u got no argument Fuck off you subhuman sack of shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488997556 115807214,115821067,2017-03-08 18:27:29,">>115820775 I'm talking about hillary, but trump seems to be oblivious",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488997649 115807214,115821168,2017-03-08 18:28:23,">>115820775 >If Hillary gets elected she has unlimited power. >>115820881 >you don't know what your talking about Right and that's not an argument. My point is they already get hired for protection with combat scenarios in mind. And the main argument for them is they're cheap and effective. That's my point. So why the fuck wouldn't a private standing army be cheap and effective as well you dumb fuck?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488997703 115807214,115821218,2017-03-08 18:28:49,,,Anonymous,libertainismlol.png,x03h/sKaGiTN++n64xZQSA==,US,,1488997729 115807214,115821261,2017-03-08 18:29:12,,,Anonymous,ancapchildconsents.jpg,tGErnWH+S7QKwCm3EQCR3g==,US,,1488997752 115807214,115821357,2017-03-08 18:29:56,,,Anonymous,ancap3.jpg,in5u+BNAOLbFJtmRWmvDag==,US,,1488997796 115807214,115821367,2017-03-08 18:30:00,">>115821067 jesus christ fucking google",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488997800 115807214,115821494,2017-03-08 18:30:59,,,Anonymous,ancapball2.png,uMnePHAsfvxqcaiJ67i0fg==,US,,1488997859 115807214,115821575,2017-03-08 18:31:39,,,Anonymous,ancappolice.jpg,85L/V22sr8iD95ct9o7Pgg==,US,,1488997899 115807214,115821617,2017-03-08 18:31:59,">>115807214 guys, what is Libertarian Nationalism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488997919 115807214,115821671,2017-03-08 18:32:22,,,Anonymous,lolbertarianskokesh.jpg,VZAlKa66qj61SMlbv/+2WQ==,US,,1488997942 115807214,115821698,2017-03-08 18:32:35,">>115821168 she litterally find it funny some guy in libia got murdered",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488997955 115807214,115821718,2017-03-08 18:32:43,">>115807214 >>115807281 >>115807403 Throw The Fatal Conceit in there somewhere pls.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488997963 115807214,115821782,2017-03-08 18:33:18,">>115814068 Well execution of communists is morally justifiable because they want to establish a state that essentially relies on a totalitarian government and total control of people's lives. Every communist government and many socialist governments have made many people poor as a result of wealth redistribution and kill dissents.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488997998 115807214,115821872,2017-03-08 18:34:03,,,Anonymous,lolbertariansstein.png,SMfszyBic5f+dQlFV793Sg==,US,,1488998043 115807214,115821919,2017-03-08 18:34:22,,,Anonymous,Black and Yellow Pill.png,0gY0R8BuUe/fPl6CX7UhBQ==,US,,1488998062 115807214,115822003,2017-03-08 18:35:11,,,Anonymous,Libertarian Right.png,Ta5wEvrtmH/zhX+xvUZqgw==,US,,1488998111 115807214,115822168,2017-03-08 18:36:39,">>115821782 Has it ever occurred to you guys that we could just as easily turn that around and start killing ancaps because we find your ideas to be dangerous, idiotic and will lead to the ruin society?",,Anonymous,ancapsandliberals.png,YcGGaSdv4wy2njUMkwj3+A==,US,,1488998199 115807214,115822332,2017-03-08 18:38:02,">>115821698 what kind of an idiot would vote for that ? they literally have more than half of americans democrats have proven that basically more than",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488998282 115807214,115822476,2017-03-08 18:39:10,">>115821782 I agree thats where communist thinking leads to, but isn't executing people for their political views essentially legitimize thought-crime?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1488998350 115807214,115822595,2017-03-08 18:40:06,">>115822168 No, but it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that. Unlike communism, true anarcho capitalism has never really been archived. And where it has existed, was entirely unintentional and was extremely short lived. So unlike communism there isn't any historical proof that anarcho capitalism is a bad ideology. >>115822476 It is. This is getting morally complicated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488998406 115807214,115822981,2017-03-08 18:43:20,">>115822476 >>115822595 Physical removal doesn't actually mean executions. It just means you're free to deny them service and remove them from your property. So in essence if you advocate theft you risk being exiled from the community.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1488998600 115807214,115823355,2017-03-08 18:46:40,">>115822595 I don't actually want to kill ancaps. But I could certainly make the argument that I am engaging in the preemptive protection of myself, my family, etc At one point in history everything must have been ancap. Somalia was ancap a few years ago when their govt collapsed. There are other situations. Ever read this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/cqkp/i_spent_about_two_weeks_living_in_something_very/",,Anonymous,lolbertainsgrowup.jpg,XKt4iVohRsHZDoienMPm7A==,US,,1488998800 115807214,115823502,2017-03-08 18:48:13,">>115822476 >>115822595 >>115822981 fuck women, i'm on to gif also fuck google and you fucking leaches also fuck french also fuck montagnes",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488998893 115807214,115823881,2017-03-08 18:51:33,">>115823502 I nseem to have mssed someone, biut whjppver upi are; ficl uopi",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1488999093 115807214,115824122,2017-03-08 18:53:54,Is this the pedo general?,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1488999234 115807214,115824242,2017-03-08 18:54:53,">>115814531 BECAUSE YOU CAN BRAINWASH PEOPLE INTO BEING TOTALLY SELFLESS AND IF THEY DON'T COMPLY YOU CAN SEND THEM TO FORCED LABOR CONCENTRATION CAMPS!!!",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488999293 115807214,115824356,2017-03-08 18:55:53,">>115823355 I know you where playing devils advocate. Link doesn't work. Yeah I did say ancap existed, but only as a temporary condition. And was never intentional. So because of it's short lived existences and never being intentional. I think I can say it has never been tried.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488999353 115807214,115824704,2017-03-08 18:58:59,">>115824356 And crucially, not tried with modern technology. Personally I wouldn't want it without quantum encryption services for cryptocurrencies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488999539 115807214,115824834,2017-03-08 18:59:58,">>115807214 WHY DO PEOPLE CONFUSE LIBERTARIANISM AND ANCAP?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1488999598 115807214,115825158,2017-03-08 19:02:47,">>115809141 >It's not just my father (he is doing fine), if you only reward winners (there can only be one winner) only one winner per game. If there are enough games there are enough winners. I'm and old fag that runs half marathons. At my age i will not win, but coming in the top 50% makes me feel good. I'm also a software developer, there are other software developers much better than I. I still make a good living. In my specialized field i'm one of the better ones in my geographic location. But there are others better than me, and then when i look at larger cities there are people who's talent dwarfs mine. They could easily take my job, however there is enough work going around they can't do it all Libertarianism does not mandate that you don't care about the less abled. It just mandates that a central authority does not force people to. Most people will voluntarily help out those truly in need. The u.s. government is one of the least giving governments of humanitarian aid as a percentage of the nations GDP. The united states is one of the most giving in terms of humanitarian aid as a percentage of its gdp.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488999767 115807214,115825583,2017-03-08 19:06:37,">>115824356 https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/cqkp6/i_spent_about_two_weeks_living_in_something_very/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488999997 115807214,115825596,2017-03-08 19:06:44,">>115825158 >Most people will voluntarily help out those truly in need. NGOs would have a better economical background to work with too.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1489000004 115807214,115825957,2017-03-08 19:09:42,">>115824356 Yeah I get that. But don't commies make the same argument? >Communism has never been tried! If real communism has never been tried then you can't kill commies because there is no historical precedent?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489000182 115807214,115826193,2017-03-08 19:11:34,">>115812219 Was that Chris in the end punching someone? That's fucking crazy I've never seen that before, and I've been following his show for a while.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489000294 115807214,115826434,2017-03-08 19:13:58,"Obviously Rothbard and Hoppe wrote before Bitcoin. Is there some way to do ancap without cryptocurrencies or something? >Gold Yeah we all trade physical gold leaf coins. And foreign states totally won't flood the gold market and crash it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489000438 115807214,115826501,2017-03-08 19:14:30,">>115807214 Original /lrg/ op here. I love you! I want your fuckers to vote when the new senate is polling: >>115826142",,Anonymous,McGas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1489000470 115807214,115826530,2017-03-08 19:14:42,">>115825583 this is retarded a (((ancom))) that believed for 20 years he would find utopia in a shithole after a earthquake surounded by criminals fucking scum",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489000482 115807214,115826533,2017-03-08 19:14:43,">>115812413 The state won't protect (you)",,Anonymous,1488851367013.jpg,HINXZgfKULKdyCUyPpOiPg==,US,,1489000483 115807214,115826615,2017-03-08 19:15:30,">>115825957 The commies try to transition to communism by expanding government influence. Sending people to gulags, murdering successful members of the community leading to starvation. Just all around awful. If you wanted a top down transition to ancap using the government you'd want to diminish power, effectively recreating the conditions that made America and parts of Europe prosperous two centuries ago. So there's a massive difference here. Complete opposites actually.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489000530 115807214,115826767,2017-03-08 19:16:52,">>115826193 I don't follow his show and I've seen it. Chris was coked up/drunk/whatever and some guy put his hand on Chris so Chris slapped him and knocked him to the ground. >Violate the NAP get the SLAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489000612 115807214,115826985,2017-03-08 19:18:32,">>115812067 >Mexican socialist goverment is Ancap utopia WEW LAD",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1489000712 115807214,115826995,2017-03-08 19:18:37,">>115825583 >https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/cqkp6/i_spent_about_two_weeks_living_in_something_very/ topkek read. why is it so hard for people to accept that might truly does make right?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489000717 115807214,115827002,2017-03-08 19:18:42,">>115826434 >Is there some way to do ancap without cryptocurrencies or something? probably, but what is your issue with cryptocurrencies? Blockchains, not just for currency but for contracts and other legal matters, looks to be the dream of ancap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489000722 115807214,115827303,2017-03-08 19:21:07,">>115827002 The point is that the idea is older than cryptocurrencies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489000867 115807214,115827313,2017-03-08 19:21:12,">>115827002 that's why i keep ownership of my pepes in the blockchain so no one can steal them",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489000872 115807214,115827377,2017-03-08 19:21:53,">>115826995 >>115825583 I lived through the Sendai earthquake. And guess what despite the lack of food everyone was dignified and well policed. Mhhh, maybe the problem in his case wasn't the lack of state but rather than Chileans are subhumans?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1489000913 115807214,115827443,2017-03-08 19:22:29,">>115826995 wow, did japan have those issues after the tsunami a few years back? No it didn't. Might does make right, but some cultures do support acting like human beings.. some do not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489000949 115807214,115827616,2017-03-08 19:24:02,">>115827377 As much as I am a race realist, I think that no matter the race if things get bad enough people will behave like that. Yes, even white people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489001042 115807214,115827722,2017-03-08 19:24:54,">>115826434 >And foreign states totally won't flood the gold market and crash it. So states are willing to lose massive amounts of money just to fuck with your market? Keep in mind if you have a free market in currency there would likely exist competing currencies further stabilizing the economy.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489001094 115807214,115827762,2017-03-08 19:25:19,">>115827443 Sendaimind In fact, in my case, the great relief wasn't fucking army tanks rolling in, but smart enterprising individuals who went to the countryside to get vegetables and resell them, or that one guy who opened a food stand with his working engine generator",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1489001119 115807214,115828479,2017-03-08 19:31:30,">>115827722 I can see people scamming each other on speculation on what will be the new hot currency. Sell your extra bullets, iodine, fucking yu-gi-oh cards on the claim that they will be a new currency.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489001490 115807214,115829056,2017-03-08 19:36:20,">>115823355 >Somalia was ancap a few years ago when their govt collapsed The government collapsed for a reason, Somalia was a war torn country, if you think a temporary void of power is anarcho capitalism then you're fucking retarded m8. We could say that Spain during its civil war was anarcho capitalist too, since there couldn't be taxation, given that you might not sympathize with the side that wants to tax you. States under a civil war are not anarcho capitalist, are states waiting for a leader to be elected.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489001780 115807214,115829476,2017-03-08 19:39:55,">>115827616 You only behave like an animal when you have nothing to lose.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489001995 115807214,115829630,2017-03-08 19:41:13,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg,,Anonymous,125091255125091212.png,SW+JkqM7NPx/FlF5heciPA==,US,,1489002073 115807214,115829665,2017-03-08 19:41:29,">>115807214 Checking in",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489002089 115807214,115831089,2017-03-08 19:54:39,">>115828479 Or you know just switch to silver like it's been done before. When there's no government enforced monopoly there could easily be tons of people that prefer to trade in silver. Or BTC, XMR, platinum, whatever... That's before any sort of collapse. So it's not like the system is scrambling for a new currency because these currencies already exist.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489002879 115807214,115831399,2017-03-08 19:57:21,">>115821872 >replace state w/ gov fucking synonyms",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489003041 115807214,115831603,2017-03-08 19:59:10,">>115821872 >>115831399",,Anonymous,1460591734933.jpg,bijSyN1k5fzdUZDPql047g==,ES,,1489003150 115807214,115831729,2017-03-08 20:00:11,">>115831089 an economy will function a lot smoother and grow faster with something of an agreed upon steady currency. That does require a little more self reliance and self responsibility though, that is an Individual will need to check the value of silver, bitcoin, dogecoin, copper / whatever before they initiate a deal. Doesn't seam like much, but honestly the big issue with libertarianism and ancap is that people, currently, are not very self reliant or responsible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489003211 115807214,115831907,2017-03-08 20:01:37,">>115831729 Because there's no incentive to be so, no matter how hard you fuck up if you complain hard enough you get bailed out or gibsmedats",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489003297 115807214,115832382,2017-03-08 20:05:28,">>115828479 >le speculation is bad meme you know how are market prices determined right?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489003528 115807214,115832416,2017-03-08 20:05:47,">>115831729 I'd imagine there would be a local consensus on a currency. But just like now where you trade with other countries it's not a problem changing currency or just buying with your own. So instead of shit like Greece being destroyed by the Euro you could have currencies much more adept for the local economy.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489003547 115807214,115833381,2017-03-08 20:14:50,">>115831729 >people, currently, are not very self reliant or responsible. Yeah, that's why we need to put these not very self reliant or responsible people in charge",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1489004090 115807214,115833823,2017-03-08 20:19:23,">be me sears >split my company in a way where it increases competition in order to increase profits >End up crashing the company",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489004363 115887886,115887886,2017-03-09 06:38:32,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - HOPPE WAS RIGHT EDITION,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1489041512 115887886,115887927,2017-03-09 06:39:18,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1489041558 115887886,115887966,2017-03-09 06:39:48,,,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(2).png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1489041588 115887886,115888513,2017-03-09 06:48:30,1776 will fucking commence!,,Anonymous,1469272494361.png,qdL2quCw06ZfijWpshDP4g==,US,,1489042110 115887886,115888562,2017-03-09 06:49:31,Bump for freedom.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1489042171 115887886,115888615,2017-03-09 06:50:30,"Sometimes I watch the morning news and wish I was a fascist, but then remember I already am.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489042230 115887886,115888791,2017-03-09 06:53:15,"Hear me out guys, this might sound crazy but bear with me. What if I pave long sections of land so that vehicles may easily travel along it? What if I charge people to use it? It's this a good idea? Damn I'm smart.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489042395 115887886,115888953,2017-03-09 06:56:01,,,Anonymous,C4R8Ka5VYAEBp_n.jpg,ADapkWKm8uHrfUZm50ddUA==,PT,,1489042561 115887886,115888967,2017-03-09 06:56:12,I'm loving how frequent these are now.,,Anonymous,HOPPE_POP_ART_bayonaL.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,US,,1489042572 115887886,115889124,2017-03-09 06:58:43,">>115888967 Fuck yeah man, A new era of liberty is coming",,Anonymous,1486330172280_pol.gif,NVpLQZZCftr2HhVNCI1POA==,US,,1489042723 115887886,115889300,2017-03-09 07:01:43,"physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ physical removal",,Anonymous,1488141078554.png,xWbOH+078M65hA7wPGUoXQ==,PT,,1489042903 115887886,115889392,2017-03-09 07:03:18,">>115888791 Get. Out. We don't take kindly to road-makers around here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489042998 115887886,115889521,2017-03-09 07:05:26,"Does anyone here actually unironically like Hoppe? If so, do you actually understand Austrian economics the benefits of free trade? I doubt any Hoppe fans on /pol/ have actually read Human Action or Man, Economy and State.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489043126 115887886,115889588,2017-03-09 07:06:36,What's the difference between libertarians and liberals?,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489043196 115887886,115889624,2017-03-09 07:07:05,">>115888791 Roads are a meme",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489043225 115887886,115889633,2017-03-09 07:07:19,,,Anonymous,1480469289972.jpg,y1BQaSFiKg8AOCG7e2jFxw==,GR,,1489043239 115887886,115889640,2017-03-09 07:07:30,>>115887886,,Anonymous,14956024_1421100064858035_6722695049293885456_n.png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,DE,,1489043250 115887886,115889749,2017-03-09 07:08:56,">>115889300 Shit I gotta add this to the pastebin so I don't forget to put it in the op",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489043336 115887886,115889757,2017-03-09 07:09:07,">>115889588 Libertarians are more autistic",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489043347 115887886,115889879,2017-03-09 07:11:03,">>115889588 Libertarianism is the new name for classical liberalism like Thomas Jefferson ideology.",,Anonymous,5449002019_c15cd9cc3a_b.jpg,AD48cnHB0aC9kyMS9GVrTw==,NO,,1489043463 115887886,115889880,2017-03-09 07:11:03,">>115889588 Classical liberals are quite similar to libertarians. But now the word liberal refers to commie dudeweed faggots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489043463 115887886,115889973,2017-03-09 07:12:35,,,Anonymous,2b8.png,x0bJutR+ZDseQf7E6V7Erw==,PT,,1489043555 115887886,115889992,2017-03-09 07:12:50,"If i go to my local libertarian meeting to try and actually get something done to make us not a laughingstock in the public eye, will they sabotage me for not being autistic?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489043570 115887886,115890108,2017-03-09 07:14:27,,,Anonymous,CpH3TecUMAI68S-.jpg,mZViZ4N43og3C9hvAz4kFQ==,PT,,1489043667 115887886,115890157,2017-03-09 07:15:09,">>115889992 Left ""libertarians"" are the face of the movement in America. They don't like non autistic libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489043709 115887886,115890189,2017-03-09 07:15:37,">>115889992 there's local libertarian meetings?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489043737 115887886,115890200,2017-03-09 07:15:48,">>115887886 Question fellow Hoppean libertarians. Was Pinochet /ourguy/?",,Anonymous,pino1.jpg,zoMsLVjtRR6F5xEXty5s6g==,US,,1489043748 115887886,115890511,2017-03-09 07:20:30,">>115887886 thanks for the links OP, very libertarian of you.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1489044030 115887886,115890735,2017-03-09 07:23:42,"http://propertyandfreedom.org/ Should I attend this event?",,Anonymous,1488756870795.gif,4VGRdSZt28DLzlj5Xn4VvQ==,TR,,1489044222 115887886,115890772,2017-03-09 07:24:10,">>115890200 Reality is a bit more complex than the meme but overall he was pretty much /ourguy/, yeah.",,Anonymous,16700246_246750195777824_3527310288566217394_o.png,X5iuUGxp/H2xIYJkdVWqhQ==,DE,,1489044250 115887886,115890791,2017-03-09 07:24:29,">>115889521 Please get to the point. So far you're being condescending and trying to seem smart. What's your point",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489044269 115887886,115890820,2017-03-09 07:25:00,">>115890157 God fucking damnit. This has to be paid sabotage. I cant believe someone would willingly get on stage and strip down to show their mantits to the nation and still actually believe he is sincerely helping us. It HAS to be deliberate sabotage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489044300 115887886,115890883,2017-03-09 07:26:01,"https://www.youtube.com/user/jasonstapletonshow/videos Educate yourself.",,Anonymous,jsp.jpg,B+R6Z5Gy6ysKSEylpj98ug==,NL,,1489044361 115887886,115890957,2017-03-09 07:27:06,"Personal favorite econ book right here. Not Hoppe, but an excellent introduction to the Austrian school/",,Anonymous,economics_in_one_lesson.jpg,mMAUXtU58ZsT5pQKLsydMg==,US,,1489044426 115887886,115891169,2017-03-09 07:30:29,">>115890820 Autism is a powerful thing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489044629 115887886,115891322,2017-03-09 07:32:39,">>115890791 My admittedly ulterior motive was to make the point that most people associated with Hoppe (especially on /pol/), don't know anything about Austrianism or economics in general and just like the 'physical removal' and helicopter memes. Although if someone actually did come forward, I'd have an honest discussion.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489044759 115887886,115891519,2017-03-09 07:35:15,>tfw no ancap gf,,Anonymous,ioat12jb1jjy.1.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,IL,,1489044915 115887886,115891640,2017-03-09 07:36:44,">>115890957 Be careful about flashing that around LvM Institute disciples.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489045004 115887886,115891764,2017-03-09 07:38:32,">>115891322 So whats the flaw with physical removal? Why are you opposed to it? Unless you view libertarianism as a specifically economic model and not a philosophical framework on which you can stricture a society, i dont see how you can be that opposed to it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489045112 115887886,115891794,2017-03-09 07:38:51,">>115891640 Well, considering I am one of those ""disciples"" I guess i know what you mean.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489045131 115887886,115891845,2017-03-09 07:39:34,">>115891322 Why would you assume that? I don't think there are any economically left wing or otherwise uneducated people in Hoppe threads.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489045174 115887886,115891992,2017-03-09 07:41:45,,,Anonymous,CN6WfZgU8AAq_aR.jpg,ZdjyTmJ81Lu39p/lvSeDvA==,PT,,1489045305 115887886,115892063,2017-03-09 07:42:48,">>115891322 I agree many came for helicopter memes, but many libertarians here read rothbard and hoppe. And we try to get others to read as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489045368 115887886,115892097,2017-03-09 07:43:17,>>115889588,,Anonymous,1483564195196.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1489045397 115887886,115892128,2017-03-09 07:43:46,">>115887886 >libertarian right This is the hot bubbling meme. Neonazis and alty cucks are so stale by now. More helicopter memes. More snakes. Hold on I'll make some.",,Anonymous,Pepe AntiCom.png,5hu8u6OaPico0xM75ljFFQ==,SE,,1489045426 115887886,115892164,2017-03-09 07:44:14,Who else /Minarchist Master Race/ ?,,Anonymous,Robert_nozick.jpg,evKo5eErzq0tUoMEUuMDeA==,GB,,1489045454 115887886,115892394,2017-03-09 07:47:41,">>115892164 Practically I'm minarchist. Ideologically I'm still Ancap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489045661 115887886,115892495,2017-03-09 07:49:04,,,Anonymous,mfj84mnhvkdy.png,afeILQgCc9or6GqUOLdVCQ==,US,,1489045744 115887886,115892635,2017-03-09 07:51:00,">>115889521 Hoppe isn't against free trade, only free migration. I haven't read any Mises, but I've read most Rothbard books. I don't see how Hoppe differs from Rothbard in any significant way",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489045860 115887886,115892655,2017-03-09 07:51:16,">>115889300 This is great except for the fucking Christopher caudwell with his annoying voice and it's louder than all other voices. Totally ruins it. Make another with only Hoppe, he has some great phrases on his own. >""the GBLT community, not to be confused with BLT sandwiches""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489045876 115887886,115892808,2017-03-09 07:53:20,">>115891764 I wasn't criticising physical removal although I disagree with it partially. I was more saying that social conservatives/alt righters just come to these types of threads just because physical removal involves treating non-straights/non-whites/anyone I don't like badly. I personally think that people should have the right to physically remove anyone from their property who refuses to leave on request, like any other libertarian. However I wouldn't physically remove people for the same homophobic/racist/conservative reasons Hoppe would. Of course libertarianism is much broader than economic policy. It's just my area of interest, as well as free speech. >>115891794 Although I disagree with more conservative libertarians, I think they're mostly positive to the movement as a whole. The problem I have with the Mises Institute is that they are very uncooperative and sometimes hostile towards anyone who doesn't agree with their academic lineage, even other Austrians. >>115891845 I actually think plenty of people in these threads are not in favour of markets at all. They are at the very least not interested in them judging by what gets posted and discussed. >>115892063 At the end of the day it's not that bad. I'd rather live in a libertarian society where bigots segregate themselves and don't allow me near them than not have a libertarian society at all. >>115892635 Pretty sure Rothbard wasn't as conservative.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489046000 115887886,115892944,2017-03-09 07:55:10,">>115891322 I agree however I'm sure some after seeing this will actually buy a book and read it so it's a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489046110 115887886,115893007,2017-03-09 07:56:04,">>115892808 That's because """"""Austrians"""""" like Jeffrey Tucker use leftists identity politics, and thit shit is killing the movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489046164 115887886,115893123,2017-03-09 07:57:57,">>115892655 >This is great except for the fucking Christopher caudwell with his annoying voice and it's louder than all other voices. Totally ruins it. Make another with only Hoppe, he has some great phrases on his own. Seconded. A version with only Hoppe's voice would also be suitable to show friends of mine in order to convert them to Hoppeism. The current version is too much red pill for that.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489046277 115887886,115893126,2017-03-09 07:57:58,,,Anonymous,aussie snek.png,r8bDNW81yvzVQoyyIewyTg==,GR,,1489046278 115887886,115893292,2017-03-09 08:00:19,">>115890200 thats not how you spell rodrigo duterte https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiX17_PpsnSAhUELMAKHatDBKkQFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fnews%2F2016%2F12%2Frodrigo-duterte-helicopter-161229062349259.html&usg=AFQjCNGY5URWjNiV2t8HYDrA-Q6AY3JSqw",,Anonymous,maxresdefault[1].jpg,0gxp4i4WuiZMTFUtjZCR6A==,GB,,1489046419 115887886,115893452,2017-03-09 08:02:34,"Libertarianism is a joke. You guys have ZERO defense against leftist subversion. Just look at your pathetic party. Trannies and globalists complaining about white men.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489046554 115887886,115893529,2017-03-09 08:03:43,">>115892655 >>115893123 Cantwell is what we need desu. A loud, boisterous opinionated libertarian who aint afraid to call it like it is. Whether we agree with all of his positions is one thing, but we need his personality.",,Anonymous,Pino_cap.png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,US,,1489046623 115887886,115893725,2017-03-09 08:06:37,">>115891322 I'm yet to see someone posting Hoppe memes and failing to show some degree of economic education. These LRG topics are usually quite nice.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489046797 115887886,115893950,2017-03-09 08:10:01,">>115893452 It's called the physical removal principle. A commies very existence violates the NAP so they get physically removed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489047001 115887886,115894075,2017-03-09 08:12:02,">>115893007 Where has Jeffrey Tucker come out in defence of identity politics? And being tolerant of non-straights/non-whites/trannies is not automatically identity politics. >>115893452 I think a strict constitution and a restricted franchise would go a mile. >>115893725 I don't see Hoppe memers say anything about economics at all. LGR?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489047122 115887886,115894134,2017-03-09 08:12:47,">>115893950 But you shouldn't be in a position where you have to physically remove commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489047167 115887886,115894238,2017-03-09 08:14:23,">>115894075 The man literally calls anyone even slightly above the x-axis on the political spectrum a fascist. He's a genuine cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489047263 115887886,115894241,2017-03-09 08:14:25,">>115887886 I'm liking that the libertarians on this board have been jocking Hoppe more lately. Makes y'all seem less faggy. I will stop posting ancap balls for a while.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489047265 115887886,115894313,2017-03-09 08:15:28,,,Anonymous,snek.gif,En4w89ZgogsndLKV/ufc1g==,US,,1489047328 115887886,115894462,2017-03-09 08:17:17,">>115894238 That has nothing to do with identity politics. He might be stupid like that, but that in itself doesn't make him a 'cuck'.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489047437 115887886,115894641,2017-03-09 08:19:32,">>115888791 how can you throw communists out of a vehicle travelling on the ground? fucking stupid, get out of here",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489047572 115887886,115894720,2017-03-09 08:20:37,">>115894134 Right, I agree. But if you do find yourself in an environment plauged with commies you should physically remove them, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489047637 115887886,115894885,2017-03-09 08:22:56,">>115894720 An environment where pests can waltz in and start wrecking things is the problem. There needs to be ideological protections that keep pests out instead of requiring constant purges. It's inefficient.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489047776 115887886,115895179,2017-03-09 08:26:43,">>115894885 How about a wall. Also find a libertarian that doesn't browse reddit that would allow commies in their society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489048003 115887886,115895296,2017-03-09 08:28:23,">>115895179 Libertarianism by definition means you don't discriminate. It's the lack of standards on the social part that leaves it open to subversion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489048103 115887886,115895320,2017-03-09 08:28:37,">>115894885 these people mostly live off the welfare state and free gibs, remove these and the problem is 99% solved",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489048117 115887886,115895504,2017-03-09 08:31:20,Hello fellow 4channer OPs. I am also a 4channer. Do not be a libertarian it is evil. How bow dah? Hillary was a good choice. Maybe we should join the left? Kek. ingore OP he is a shill.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1489048280 115887886,115895660,2017-03-09 08:33:38,"Would you play it? Does it need a smiling pinochet instead of the commie mural? Vote now! Change your memes instantly.",,Anonymous,Commie Drop The Game.png,16lXUiJDa1n0cALqemu3nw==,SE,,1489048418 115887886,115895973,2017-03-09 08:38:16,">>115895296 >Libertarianism by definition means you don't discriminate. No. Fucking no. Freedom of association is what makes libertarianism work. Discrimination is a huge part of libertarianism. Gtfo of here you know nothing of libertarianism, roadcuck.",,Anonymous,McGas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1489048696 115887886,115896238,2017-03-09 08:41:56,">>115895296 Umm fuck off Exclusion from property is a fundamental property right and the ability to charge different prices to different individuals (price discrimination) is inherent in the free market",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489048916 115887886,115896376,2017-03-09 08:43:36,">>115893007 jeffrey tucker is not representative of all austrians",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489049016 115887886,115896518,2017-03-09 08:45:28,">>115895973 >>115896238 Then how do you explain this and all the other freaks at the convention?",,Anonymous,14234782378423.png,zXiQZGrM3LYw2aKctwPh/Q==,US,,1489049128 115887886,115896730,2017-03-09 08:48:18,">>115896518 the party doesn't represent the movement Mises, Heritage, and other free market/small government organizations are more representative Anyone who wants reduce the size and power of the government is fine in my book though. The problem is when they get complacent and stop wanting to reduce government size and power, thats when they need to be excised.",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489049298 115887886,115896867,2017-03-09 08:50:10,">>115896518 they are free to live in their own special snowflake world but leave me the fuck out of it",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489049410 115887886,115896956,2017-03-09 08:51:26,">>115896518 Progressives pretending to understand libertarianism. Those people have never faced the true implications of private property. They are cryptocommies that subverted mainstream libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489049486 115887886,115896975,2017-03-09 08:51:43,">>115896730 >the party doesn't represent the movement No, I think it does. There were no ideological protections, therefore leftists came in and took over. >>115896867 Commies will always come after you and your ideology. You can't let bygones be bygones when commies exist.",,Anonymous,1467831482313.jpg,xngaxxyG6oE5BdwT+8KiKw==,US,,1489049503 115887886,115896987,2017-03-09 08:51:52,">>115896518 that may still apply or may not shit is voluntary and norms come from the private side, thats how civilization works",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489049512 115887886,115897153,2017-03-09 08:54:12,">>115887886 You guys are so close to being right. Maybe one day you'll understand what a land monopoly does to a free people",,Anonymous,Henry-George-Progress-and-Poverty-191x300.jpg,h0UPHF2qj5EJhKvgXVvK6A==,US,,1489049652 115887886,115897166,2017-03-09 08:54:23,">>115896975 >Commies will always come after you and your ideology m8 thats the whole point of physical removal",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489049663 115887886,115897196,2017-03-09 08:54:52,">>115896518 The same thing that happened to the word liberal happened to the word libertarian. It got perverted from meaning ""minimal government"" to ""dude weed lmao"". Does not break the original meaning of libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1489049692 115887886,115897302,2017-03-09 08:56:14,">>115887886 Anything with the word liberal in it belongs in the trash. Anarchocaptialism is literal retardation I don't know how autistic you have to be to support this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489049774 115887886,115897320,2017-03-09 08:56:26,">>115890735 Yeah, but circle around in your car first before you decide to go in.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489049786 115887886,115897327,2017-03-09 08:56:35,">>115896975 What exactly is ""leftist"" about Peterson's tweet? Gay marriage is a voluntary union between two consenting people. The state has no right to regulate voluntary associations/unions. Marijuana is a scarce good that produces no real negative externalities. The government has no right to regulate what crops someone grows and consumes on their private property. And the individual possesses an absolute nonnegotiable right to self-defense by any means they deem necessary as long as they do not aggress against someone else's life, liberty or property so there's nothing wrong with owning machine guns What part upsets your fee fees?",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489049795 115887886,115897339,2017-03-09 08:56:39,">>115897166 This. The libertarian party is a prime example of what happens when you don't remove commies.",,Anonymous,Reds_Get_Out.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,US,,1489049799 115887886,115897399,2017-03-09 08:57:19,">>115887886 We call ourselves the ""party of principle,"" and we base property rights on the principle that everyone is entitled to the fruits of his labor. Land, however, is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and our system of land tenure is based not on labor, but on decrees of privilege issued from the state, called titles. In fact, the term ""real estate"" is Middle English (originally French) for ""royal state."" The ""title"" to land is the essence of the title of nobility, and the root of noble privilege. The royal free lunch When the state granted land titles to a fraction of the population, it gave that fraction devices with which to levy, and pocket, tolls on the fruits of the labor of others. Those without land privileges must either buy or rent those privileges from the people who received the grants or from their assignees. Thus the state titles enable large landowners to collect a transfer payment, or ""free lunch"" from the actual land users. The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. --Carlyle",,Anonymous,image_single-tax-liberator.gif,z7xkN+QSuPVb3em993ztvg==,US,,1489049839 115887886,115897400,2017-03-09 08:57:19,">>115897302 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489049839 115887886,115897402,2017-03-09 08:57:20,Dond dred on me :DD,,Anonymous,tmp_17276-17156314_1546908408683163_3725718367907003522_n.png171907463.jpg,eXHPjBnAePA6EgruCFCuGg==,GB,,1489049840 115887886,115897444,2017-03-09 08:57:54,">>115887886 Tortured rationalizations According to royal libertarians, land becomes private property when one mixes one's labor with it. And mixing what is yours with what is not yours in order to own the whole thing is considered great sport. But the notion is filled with problems. How much labor does it take to claim land, and how much land can one claim for that labor? And for how long can one make that claim? According to classical liberals, land belonged to the user for as long as the land was being used, and no longer. But according to royal libertarians, land belongs to the first user, forever. So, do the oceans belong to the heirs of the first person to take a fish out or put a boat in? Does someone who plows the same field each year own only one field, while someone who plows a different field each year owns dozens of fields? Should the builder of the first transcontinental railroad own the continent? Shouldn't we at least have to pay a toll to cross the tracks? Are there no common rights to the earth at all? To royal libertarians there are not, but classical liberals recognized that unlimited ownership of land never flowed from use, but from the state: A right of property in movable things is admitted before the establishment of government. A separate property in lands not till after that establishment.... He who plants a field keeps possession of it till he has gathered the produce, after which one has as good a right as another to occupy it. Government must be established and laws provided, before lands can be separately appropriated and their owner protected in his possession. Till then the property is in the body of the nation. --Thomas Jefferson",,Anonymous,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,US,,1489049874 115887886,115897479,2017-03-09 08:58:19,">>115897339 >>115897339 What commies are in the libertarian party? I don't see anyone arguing in favor of redistribution of means of production or abolishing private property Where's your argument?",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489049899 115887886,115897574,2017-03-09 08:59:37,">>115897399 land is homesteaded by mixing your labor with natural resources/land you own a right to use the land as long as you are mixing your labor/capital with it",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489049977 115887886,115897585,2017-03-09 08:59:41,"i came here to shitpost as a cia nigger, but after lurking I just need to say something: Laissez Faire is not discriminatory, and it's not tolerant.\. And, here is reality: If you are a shitty business man and decide to discriminate against minorities, they'll just go shopping somewhere else. Bam. You just lost a sale, and your competitor made one. One the other hand, customers that dislike that minority will probably not shop at the socially liberal business place. That's how capitalism works. It's not about progress or anti progress; it's just living, and using a system that works by letting people (and business are ran by people, don't forget it) decide what to do with their money and how to make it/spend it, within the law. Besides the Police force, military, and Firefighters... Those need to be state ran.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489049981 115887886,115897629,2017-03-09 09:00:13,">>115897574 see >>115897444",,Anonymous,capita.jpg,W72SLUCJ6GP4ILTMYuThWw==,US,,1489050013 115887886,115897675,2017-03-09 09:00:49,">>115897166 Which has nothing to do with libertarianism, meaning libertarianism can't defend itself. >>115897327 Because there's no ideological red line. What comes next after gays? Trannies. After that? Pedophiles. Where do you draw the line in a libertarian society? At some point you're going to have to make social boundaries, otherwise you're begging for leftists to take control. >>115897479 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioq_iE4nVqI",,Anonymous,14892375785.png,WMsCz/z0LRwFFDoeAbWk5A==,US,,1489050049 115887886,115897708,2017-03-09 09:01:09,">>115897402 taxation is using violence to take property from someone (which is theft) saying ""i wont steal from you if you dont work"" doesnt change the fact that you will steal from me if i do work",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489050069 115887886,115897740,2017-03-09 09:01:33,,,Anonymous,1488851274963.png,/5STPt46nKp0B1BEoYK7rg==,BR,,1489050093 115887886,115897859,2017-03-09 09:03:14,">>115897708 Extracting land value rents from the landlord class isnt really theft since the landlord didnt actually work for the money. All he did was exclude it from use in a community that made it valuable in the first place the real leeches are the landlords and their unearned wealth",,Anonymous,henrygeorge_whowashe2.jpg,hu4IaFLs7x/j2kEVIBVh0w==,US,,1489050194 115887886,115897901,2017-03-09 09:03:42,">>115897675 Trannies aren't harming anyone. Pedophiles do harm people. No we will not use violence to harm trannies, yes we will use violence to defend against pedophiles. The line is non-aggression. I'm sorry that upsets your feelings but it is wrong wrong wrong to use violence except in self-defense.",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489050222 115887886,115898013,2017-03-09 09:05:06,">>115897901 >Trannies aren't harming anyone.",,Anonymous,1488591973660.png,uiTCCoEei8ZtynufIogyiw==,US,,1489050306 115887886,115898024,2017-03-09 09:05:13,">>115897708 Nobody is stealing money from you when you work. In order for businesses to operate effectively they require the infrastructure in place to let their business grow. Stores don't just magically supply themselves. You need vital infrastructure like roads, bridges, air cargo and rail in order to survive. If a business does not pay for that infrastructure provided by the state, you are trespassing on state property and leeching off taxpayers who contributed to it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489050313 115887886,115898081,2017-03-09 09:05:51,">>115898013 >stupid family with stupid genetics is allowed to fuck with their stupid kids >they stop reproducing passive eugenics is key.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489050351 115887886,115898159,2017-03-09 09:06:49,">>115897859 people can own land >landlord didnt actually work for the money >wahhhh he's being productive/creating value without toiling in a field wahhh everyone should just be farmers fuck wall street theyre just manipulating numbers wahhh",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489050409 115887886,115898181,2017-03-09 09:07:05,">>115898024 All free mean are entitled to the all the fruits of their labor; the only moral way to raise funds for a government is via a single tax on land values",,Anonymous,TkkrWa5.jpg,VQg5CGVDwJT8pqg0y+9wmg==,US,,1489050425 115887886,115898218,2017-03-09 09:07:33,">>115898013 Didn't your image just work against your argument?",,Anonymous,1439583725873.jpg,T+RD26QBXGSAoxrykKq08A==,AU,,1489050453 115887886,115898273,2017-03-09 09:08:07,">>115887886 Reminder that lolbertarians have no major disagreements with liberals on any important issue",,Anonymous,national socialism 3.jpg,5Dp2Kez110kLFuvAxkSiJg==,GR,,1489050487 115887886,115898283,2017-03-09 09:08:12,">>115898024 >state property >right to own property >rights are for humans That's all general and not applicable to lots of businesses. Still you do get something for value FOR your tax money, just not in the same way you could get that by negotiating with other people to get it. No agency, constant threat of violence, definitely theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489050492 115887886,115898297,2017-03-09 09:08:23,">>115898013 Yes altering a child's chemistry is terrible and shouldn't be allowed but an adult trannie crossdressing isn't harming anyone. That mother should be convicted and lynched. If the kid continues to be a tranny, he shouldn't be punished.",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489050503 115887886,115898443,2017-03-09 09:10:10,">>115898024 government can't own property because the only way government obtains property is through stealing other people's property",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489050610 115887886,115898447,2017-03-09 09:10:11,">>115889588 Libertarians are more hysterical. Their version of ""Racist"" is ""Statist"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0qfEL_Zog At 2:45",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489050611 115887886,115898491,2017-03-09 09:10:51,">>115898081 That's a horrible mentality. These children don't deserve to be subjected to the sexual perversions of their fucked up commie parents. >>115898218 If you actually believe that there is zero harm in injecting/blocking hormones in children then you are what they call a ""useful idiot"". >>115898297 >but an adult trannie crossdressing isn't harming anyone. It's what led to this situation. Allowing and humoring this mental illness just leaves the door open. Treat it or it festers and spreads.",,Anonymous,1488072914316.png,d1/68W5S/wjh3D6J+tUDBA==,US,,1489050651 115887886,115898513,2017-03-09 09:11:05,">>115898283 There is only a threat of force when you don't comply and use infrastructure you don't pay for. If you refuse to pay taxes, but then use roads, bridges and rail to benefit yourself. You are trespassing, and as such should be detained. Much in the same sense of entering private property and being stopped by security guards.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489050665 115887886,115898539,2017-03-09 09:11:21,">>115898297 >should be convicted and lynched Lolbertarians believe kids are property and parents have total control over them",,Anonymous,lolbergtardian pedos.jpg,NiEWtmQXUh1JYhkW3VxaMg==,GR,,1489050681 115887886,115898628,2017-03-09 09:12:21,">>115898273 rawlsian liberals (modern liberals) want to use the government to implement anti-discrimination laws, regulate private property/businesses, regulate your capacity for self-defense and redistribute wealth libertarians hate all these things",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489050741 115887886,115898676,2017-03-09 09:13:06,">>115898273 >Hitler >Socialist Fuck off. Strasser>Hitler",,Anonymous,Bureacracy.png,fyH4jGYhLCRiteUBVEe+gw==,US,,1489050786 115887886,115898684,2017-03-09 09:13:13,">>115898181 What's wrong with charging people rent? Without rent it will be much harder to find housing or start a business. >>115898273 >free markets >free trade >free speech >taxation (including sin taxes) >tolerance but not acceptance Retard. >>115898491 Sure, they might be lying but take more care about what you post. So do you have any evidence that hormone blockers make a difference at that age?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489050793 115887886,115898726,2017-03-09 09:13:46,">>115898513 Except with none of the actual people involved. >Pay the toll or we shoot >Let me see your manager, we can work out a deal >Boom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489050826 115887886,115898770,2017-03-09 09:14:22,">>115887886 >libertarianism >right wing Only America could produce some so wrongheaded as Hans-Hermann Hoppe. The British have Nick Land, it's true, but at least he writes some good fiction and his philosophical arguments reflect a knowledge of the history of philosophy. Hoppe is an economist (social scientist) using an applied field as his basis for his political philosophy. With the massive wealth of philosophical work produced by Americans in the past 200 years and this guy and Ayn Rand are among the most popular on this board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489050862 115887886,115898806,2017-03-09 09:14:44,">>115898513 the state cant own property >>115898491 yes trannies should be considered mentally ill but they should not be punished by the law >>115898539 1) youve taken that quote out of context 2) natural law libertarians don't think kids are property",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489050884 115887886,115898862,2017-03-09 09:15:22,">>115898628 Lolbertarians want trannies to walk around little kids as long as ""it's left to the states"". They want to outsource jewish tyranny to a lower layer of government.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1489050922 115887886,115898962,2017-03-09 09:16:32,">>115898862 wrong, those are federalists, not libertarians libertarians are against big government in any form",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489050992 115887886,115899031,2017-03-09 09:17:17,">>115898962 So do communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489051037 115887886,115899040,2017-03-09 09:17:22,">>115898684 >Do you have any evidence that altering a child's biochemistry will have any effect This is basically what you're asking. Are you for or against parents experimenting on their children for their sexual pleasure? Because that's what this all boils down to. As I said before, libertarianism does not have societal protections against leftist subversion. There needs to be SOMETHING there to stop the freaks from inflicting their sickness onto others, especially children. >>115898806 >yes trannies should be considered mentally ill Is that a libertarian stance?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489051042 115887886,115899095,2017-03-09 09:18:08,">>115898806 >natural law Oh sorry i thought I was arguing with someone with above room temperature IQ. ""Natural Law"" is unscientific superstitious garbage",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1489051088 115887886,115899105,2017-03-09 09:18:17,">>115898806 Except that's not true, and has never been true. State property exists, and you're using it right now. The mechanism and system used to establish an IP address in order for you to get online, is maintained and regulated by multiple state entities and employees paid by the taxpayer. Public land is owned by the state. Roads are owned by the state. You can't keep just posting your theories that don't reflect reality and not explain why you think states can't own property",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489051097 115887886,115899145,2017-03-09 09:18:48,">>115899040 This. It only sees the morality in violence. Being forced to use child labor is just as immoral to a libertarian as being forced not to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489051128 115887886,115899194,2017-03-09 09:19:23,">>115898962 *anti-federalists Federalists want MORE centralized power with a federal government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489051163 115887886,115899313,2017-03-09 09:20:48,">>115898726 There's no deal to be had. Much like private property, public state property has right to assumed access on most cases, but can be removed if you don't follow the rules. A private toll would refuse you access based on its rules, a public toll would refuse you access based on its rules",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489051248 115887886,115899341,2017-03-09 09:21:09,You guys started the party without me!,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1489051269 115887886,115899359,2017-03-09 09:21:25,">>115899040 Is it not? >>115899095 natural law is derived from rationalism cute non-argument but you're not smarter than locke >>115899105 if i use violence or threats of violence to take your computer from you, i don't own your computer, i stole it >>115899194 you're so wrong kid lol read the federalist papers",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489051285 115887886,115899435,2017-03-09 09:22:27,">>115898962 >libertarians are against big government in any form So what's the difference between local government enforcing tranny bathrooms compared to the federal government? Moral and societal standards are universal they should not be enforced a la carte.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1489051347 115887886,115899442,2017-03-09 09:22:32,">>115899145 >Being forced to use child labor is just as immoral to a libertarian as being forced not to. Wrong, its proper to outlaw child labor because child labor is aggression. Children are not capable of consenting to voluntary contracts of labor thus any labor contract with a child is done through coercion and coercion is aggression",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489051352 115887886,115899469,2017-03-09 09:22:53,">>115898159 >>115898159 see you guys come so close but refuse to acknowledge the land holding class was GIVEN a ROYAL privilege long ago and has hoisted the bill for its pleasures on the backs of actual productive peoples read this>>115897444",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489051373 115887886,115899473,2017-03-09 09:22:53,">>115892655 >>115893123 I'll make a new song with only Hoppe then, when I have the time. I'm kinda busy right now. In the meantime you guys think about the base song I should use.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1489051373 115887886,115899486,2017-03-09 09:23:04,">>115889300 That's disgusting",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489051384 115887886,115899496,2017-03-09 09:23:13,">>115899435 there's no difference and no libertarian ever said they were different",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489051393 115887886,115899499,2017-03-09 09:23:17,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1489051397 115887886,115899583,2017-03-09 09:24:22,">>115899442 What if parents signed them up for a job and the child agrees?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489051462 115887886,115899596,2017-03-09 09:24:26,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1489051466 115887886,115899598,2017-03-09 09:24:27,">>115899040 >This is basically what you're asking That's exactly what I'm asking, post proofs. >Are you for or against parents experimenting on their children for their sexual pleasure? God no. I don't believe many parents at all are trying to do this. Some I believe are naive about their children's ability to choose their gender so young and a small minority just want the leftist fantasy of having a trans kid. >libertarianism does not have societal protections against leftist subversion I mentioned them here: >>115894075 >>115899145 Child labour is not immoral if the child has no other choices.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489051467 115887886,115899682,2017-03-09 09:25:36,">>115899359 Oh yeah the creation myth of Amurica. Muh freedumbs and muh rugged indivisualism. Rights are a social construct they are not derived from a document but social consensus.",,Anonymous,muh constitution.jpg,vo19L/oTu/M0br9PL+UT3g==,GR,,1489051536 115887886,115899694,2017-03-09 09:25:53,">>115899359 >if i use violence or threats of violence to take your computer from you, i don't own your computer, i stole it What are you even talking about? Since when was this arbitrarily set standard suddenly gospel? It's simple, if you use state property, you are liable to the rules set by the state. You clearly do not live innawoods, built your home in rugged unclaimed land, you use state infrastructure. And you're liable to its consequences",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489051553 115887886,115899711,2017-03-09 09:26:04,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1489051564 115887886,115899718,2017-03-09 09:26:10,"Good morning capitalists! How are you making capital this morning? Any plans for the day? How are you strengthening the West? Managing my web development shop myself, later today I'll be going to classes to increase my wealth of knowledge.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489051570 115887886,115899746,2017-03-09 09:26:25,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1489051585 115887886,115899844,2017-03-09 09:27:48,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1489051668 115887886,115899853,2017-03-09 09:27:53,">>115899496 Glad that you agree that the ""leave it to the states"" meme is a cop out. But it makes sense since lolbertarianism taken to its logical conclusion is so repugnant and repulsive nobody would support it. For example in an ideal lolbertarian society with total freedom of association there would be communities were sex with children was allowed and anyone trying to stop the sexual exploitation of children would be ""aggressing"" against it.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1489051673 115887886,115899879,2017-03-09 09:28:08,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1489051688 115887886,115899959,2017-03-09 09:29:03,">>115899583 the child can't agree, they can't consent to a contract parents have a duty as guardians to provide for the well-being of the child and denying them an education and forcing them to labor is failing this duty and those guardians should be punished by law >>115899682 natural rights exist because of human nature and rationalism informs us of them positive rights do exist because of democratic consensus yes >>115899694 >Since when was this arbitrarily set standard suddenly gospel? Since Rome... Look up the Corpus Juris Civilis Theft != ownership The government can't own property because they have stolen money to buy it with",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489051743 115887886,115899997,2017-03-09 09:29:39,">there would be communities were sex with children was allowed and anyone trying to stop the sexual exploitation of children would be ""aggressing"" against it. Even today pedophiles get the rope, even if they're in jails. No reason to assume why this wouldn't happen in AnCap society in an ever greater extent, with all the free flow of information and no slander/libel laws + complete freedom of association.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1489051779 115887886,115900042,2017-03-09 09:30:08,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1489051808 115887886,115900070,2017-03-09 09:30:27,">>115899853 You keep conflating federalism with libertarianism. They are not the same thing. > For example in an ideal lolbertarian society with total freedom of association there would be communities were sex with children was allowed and anyone trying to stop the sexual exploitation of children would be ""aggressing"" against it. This is a complete strawman and false. Sex with children is aggression because children can't consent. Aggression is not tolerated.",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489051827 115887886,115900136,2017-03-09 09:31:19,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1489051879 115887886,115900183,2017-03-09 09:31:52,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1489051912 115887886,115900255,2017-03-09 09:32:39,">>115899959 They have a duty, but not a right. A duty isn't a law, or a rule. Duty is more of a social contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489051959 115887886,115900264,2017-03-09 09:32:47,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1489051967 115887886,115900332,2017-03-09 09:33:48,">>115900255 duties and rights are tied together yes duties exist throughout our common law",,LibertyOrDeath,,,US,,1489052028 115887886,115900427,2017-03-09 09:34:59,,,Anonymous,1488783709299.jpg,dmVI+rJg8/v/57PGmN//zQ==,BR,,1489052099 115887886,115900669,2017-03-09 09:38:13,">>115899473 Very cool, man, there's nothing like a HHH song! In this video there are a few gems that could be used as voice clips, especially around min 4:17: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOFuhXn36Ew&t=44s How about this as base: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCFoEJdU-Ig (sry, I don't know shit about electronic music)?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489052293 115887886,115900791,2017-03-09 09:39:39,">>115900264 Do you have a life?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489052379 115887886,115900794,2017-03-09 09:39:43,">>115887886 Hoppe is based Pinochet did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,IMG_7842.jpg,sY4x9bp+yHorWP0eSNcbPw==,US,,1489052383 115887886,115901127,2017-03-09 09:44:22,">>115900427 I consider myself ideologically AnCap but I fucking hate that ancap ball. Sunglasses ancap ball is my bro tho.",,Anonymous,yHntlUL.jpg,bofl4lk1ykxLqE2YBr2GBg==,US,,1489052662 115887886,115901338,2017-03-09 09:46:59,">>115900669 thank you for the suggestion. I'm not fond of the song (I prefer these neo-80's A E S T H E T I C S songs) but thanks for the clip. It's awesome. I'll use it. I already have other clips, like the one where says not to confuse the ""GLBTs"" with BLT sandwiches.",,Anonymous,hoppe flag.jpg,QLIUZ26a1MH/Uo1nSn8nPw==,PT,,1489052819 115887886,115901394,2017-03-09 09:47:28,">>115900791 Yeah, why?",,Anonymous,guide to ancap.jpg,Ct6y00S0WbVLMPr2fEghgg==,PT,,1489052848 115887886,115901432,2017-03-09 09:47:56,">>115898684 Nothing wrong with charging people rent its about who collects that rent We as libertarians should make the classical liberal distinction between land, labor and capital. We believe in the private possession of land without interference from the state, but in the community collection of land rent to prevent monopolization of land.",,Anonymous,60614.jpg,yvICFrUjjQmgiPzah7YUKQ==,US,,1489052876 115887886,115901963,2017-03-09 09:53:27,">>115900791 Leave portubro alone, he his a great propaganda producer for liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489053207 115887886,115902090,2017-03-09 09:54:47,I bet my NAP on it that you'll laugh at least once while reading this.,,Anonymous,1488222673763.png,z7vhBXi6weAleJA7sWNokQ==,TR,,1489053287 115887886,115902103,2017-03-09 09:54:55,">>115901963 t-thanks senpai",,Anonymous,hoppe-sanglasses.jpg,xPYHlnJ8Byb5vByoB1jjBA==,PT,,1489053295 115887886,115902164,2017-03-09 09:55:29,"wo different kinds of indirect taxation One of the most perverted twisting of concepts is reflected in what Hamilton called ""indirect taxation."" To him, and to many royal libertarians, indirect taxation is ""hidden"" taxation, as a value-added tax or sales tax that is buried in the price of purchased goods. This kind of indirectness is hardly admirable, and is similar to the kind of indirectness involved in chicanery and duplicity. Small wonder Jefferson called Hamilton a monarchist. The Articles of Confederation embodied an entirely different concept of indirect taxation. The United States was to levy a tax, not on individual property holders, but on each state, based on its aggregate land value. The assumption was that each state would levy a similar tax on each county, and so on down to the individual. In this way, the individual would never have to face a federal tax agent directly, and if the federal government did not have the full support of the states, it could not bully them as easily as it could bully individuals. Unfortunately, states did not support the federal government to its satisfaction from the beginning (being strapped from the war). Rather than working things out patiently, Hamilton introduced power-centralizing measures into the new Constitution. One was the other kind of indirect taxation, the mosquito-bite kind that you don't see happening. Royal libertarians trumpet this covert taxation as a virtue over direct real estate taxation, even when it means that ""free trade"" is being taxed.",,Anonymous,willy.jpg,f5IEpTYdzB/nJ7KEauYaCQ==,US,,1489053329 115887886,115902182,2017-03-09 09:55:38,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4 The flagship explanation of right libertarianism, familiarize yourself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489053338 115887886,115902355,2017-03-09 09:57:23,no step pls,,Anonymous,1418843321093.jpg,P7sYFeNLCf1vOGu1yEnlTg==,AU,,1489053443 115887886,115902367,2017-03-09 09:57:32,">>115902182 great lecture",,Anonymous,hoppe speaks to minorities.webm,UdXzJIjN9K0YXstyb1KF3A==,PT,,1489053452 115887886,115902486,2017-03-09 09:58:55,">>115901432 I wouldn't say Georgism is libertarian at all. Forcefully taking people's rents is completely out of order with libertarianism and it's definitely an interference from the state. And again, very few will want to rent out their land if they only recieve a tiny fraction of the proceeds. You may worry about land monopolisation (which has never been a serious problem in post-feudal societies), however Georgism is a sure-fire way to make land even more inaccesible.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489053535 115887886,115902923,2017-03-09 10:03:51,">>115902486 The rent doesn't belong to the landlord all hes doing is extracting value added from the community by excluding his land from use",,Anonymous,k41V9sG.jpg,ZyhaoL9vTAUfTbHmXq59+A==,US,,1489053831 115887886,115903011,2017-03-09 10:04:57,Does anyone know a better test? Sad to be so close to the authoritarian.,,Anonymous,chart.png,YBNGpqHB9S8FLEVKx4UPNg==,BR,,1489053897 115887886,115903026,2017-03-09 10:05:06,>tfw roads,,Anonymous,1482210662685.jpg,cHIsPk0uilAIc8plb+SmJQ==,US,,1489053906 115887886,115903136,2017-03-09 10:06:16,">>115902923 >If you own a property and you allow someone to live there with the agreement that they pay a monthly fee you're a leech",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489053976 115887886,115903142,2017-03-09 10:06:22,">>115903011 Sometimes I almost feel like a communist being so far left.",,Anonymous,Dead to Gommunism.png,CgfNiVOGyYniqa1ylkC7ug==,US,,1489053982 115887886,115903217,2017-03-09 10:07:23,">>115902923 The surplus labour doesn't belong to the employer. All he's doing is extracting value added from the community by excluding their labour from use. Do you see why you're wrong if I apply your principle like that?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489054043 115887886,115903465,2017-03-09 10:09:59,">>115903217 the right to use land is primary and that there must be rights to land before there can be equal rights see where your wrong if you forget a basic inalienable human right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489054199 115887886,115903532,2017-03-09 10:10:48,">>115903142 Filthy Communist.",,Anonymous,1487178668769.jpg,rAm+YQe0uUlAEuGdjVPv1Q==,BR,,1489054248 115887886,115903541,2017-03-09 10:10:53,">>115903136 You own what you produce and thats its see>>115897444",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489054253 115887886,115903818,2017-03-09 10:14:02,">>115903465 If the right to use land is universal, then you must be at least a socialist. Why not the right to use property too? 'Basic inalienable human rights' are only what only other humans deem them to be. Well unless you're religious, but I don't know many religious texts that think that using any land you want is a right.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489054442 115887886,115903824,2017-03-09 10:14:05,">>115903217 The classical liberal distinctions between land, labor and capital were greatly confused by socialists, and particularly Marxists, who substituted the fuzzy abstract term, ""means of production,"" for all three factors. They also blurred the distinction between common property and state property, for socialists believed, as royalty also believed, that they were the people. Today, the confusions between land and capital and between state property and common property are shared by socialists and royal libertarians, and only classical liberals keep these distinctions clearly defined. Yet royal libertarians frequently duck the land issue by charging that it is the classical liberals, not the royal libertarians, who have embraced socialist ideas.",,Anonymous,246517_448675741817412_289891264_n1.jpg,gqAc5g3+UMZWwkmLVr5XBg==,US,,1489054445 115887886,115903832,2017-03-09 10:14:12,">>115901394 Because you spend all day spamming pictures no one will read",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489054452 115887886,115903910,2017-03-09 10:15:14,">>115903832 I appreciate his infographs and have referred to them before.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489054514 115887886,115904003,2017-03-09 10:16:22,">>115903832 I read them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489054582 115887886,115904015,2017-03-09 10:16:30,">>115903832 If no one read them I wouldn't see them be reposted in other threads.",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1489054590 115887886,115904184,2017-03-09 10:18:27,,,Anonymous,41711af2ca8e8b74d6d5f181a37d3ef90448f5fad6895998fe9030f7a3901f2f_1.jpg,axKQbYyYctQ583qK5uKrnA==,BR,,1489054707 115887886,115904225,2017-03-09 10:18:44,">>115903832 make some georgist memes i dont have the talent",,Anonymous,12974368_1714525202161353_9196892083295237146_n.jpg,Ieg9bwmfp20KKPhKj9MS4A==,US,,1489054724 115887886,115904230,2017-03-09 10:18:47,">>115903910 >>115904003 >>115904015 Well but we are no one. Checkmate",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489054727 115887886,115904336,2017-03-09 10:19:59,">>115903824 You're not even arguing at this point, you just copypasta'd an essay. For the first paragraph, the issue with common property is that in order for most property to stay common, the state must intervene to stop someone claiming it as private property. Also you are yet to define what a 'royal libertarian' is. I've gone to the trouble of arguing with terms in common usage, you should either define it or use different language.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489054799 115887886,115904464,2017-03-09 10:21:29,">>115904230 Hoppe has been gaining popularity around here because of all my shitposting and others' shitposting. I like that fact.",,Anonymous,1488747927597.png,bS/n+OcobuxGJq2Hs6uasQ==,PT,,1489054889 115887886,115904503,2017-03-09 10:22:03,">>115904464 Alright, give me the yellow pill",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489054923 115887886,115904614,2017-03-09 10:23:13,>>115887886,,Anonymous,1488986461560.png,7pxzBOPQMBcE7IN8NsL3ZQ==,AU,,1489054993 115887886,115904688,2017-03-09 10:24:04,">>115902090 > it is funny as fuck xD but also wrong as fuck",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1489055044 115887886,115904851,2017-03-09 10:26:09,">>115904503 DUDE ROADS LMAO",,Anonymous,ayoooo.png,06e7zJwSB2yH1Uk6Svr2Gg==,CA,,1489055169 115887886,115904859,2017-03-09 10:26:19,">>115904225 .... because houses fall from the sky, typically",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1489055179 115887886,115904930,2017-03-09 10:27:20,">>115904336 >You're not even arguing at this point, you just copypasta'd an essay. Youre right >Also you are yet to define what a 'royal libertarian' is When the state granted land titles to a fraction of the population, it gave that fraction devices with which to levy, and pocket, tolls on the fruits of the labor of others. Those without land privileges must either buy or rent those privileges from the people who received the grants or from their assignees. Thus the state titles enable large landowners to collect a transfer payment, or ""free lunch"" from the actual land users.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489055240 115887886,115905002,2017-03-09 10:28:09,">>115904688 >xD get out.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1489055289 115887886,115905109,2017-03-09 10:29:26,">>115899473 >>115899499 >>115899596 Make it with this song in the background H O P P E W A V E",,Anonymous,HoppePoster.jpg,hQipYVn2ABY/CTM7ENochw==,US,,1489055366 115887886,115905149,2017-03-09 10:29:57,">>115899473 >>115899499 >>115899596 >>115905109 Forgot link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmnCKftMbPw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489055397 115887886,115905480,2017-03-09 10:33:50,Bump for private death squads!,,Anonymous,ancapepe.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1489055630 115887886,115905578,2017-03-09 10:35:03,,,Anonymous,13561541_250643835316786_1449003808_n.jpg,6uwz3XTRwPrkZcC2/Pi2nw==,BR,,1489055703 115887886,115905859,2017-03-09 10:38:28,">>115904503 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n4IYhSk9oQ >praxeology is the a priori study of human action >economics is an a priori axiomatic-deductive category of praxeology regarding the use of scarce resources >Hoppe deducts libertarianism and argumentation ethics from these facts >comes to the conclusion that this libertarian world would most likely not favor the ""abnormals"" (current Libertarian Party voters) >instead, libertarianism empowers the nuclear family because it destroys the weapon used by the state to undermine it: welfare + private property expropriation >property owners would be allowed to discriminate under libertarian/ancap society >the ""abnormals"" (moral hazards) would be systematically discriminated by everyone and expelled from everywhere because of their laziness, incompetence, abnormality, vulgarity and ill-manners >ending the welfare state would end the socialization of moral hazards (alcoholics, drug addicts, single parents, niggers, welfare queens, beggars) >enforcing strict property rights would give back power to the families >ending public education would purge all unnecessary and state-funded Marxist bullshit in favor of pro-business and no-bullshit private education >Hoppe says there would be ""covenants"" meant to protect certain ways of life and cultures (i.e.: white, patriarchal, aristocratic, ""normal"" lifestyles) >peace would occur because there would be no states no aggress against each other and private defense agencies and insurance companies would always be on edge to lower violence as to lower premium costs and frictions to business >>115905149 Love that song. Will keep it in mind.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1489055908 115887886,115906178,2017-03-09 10:41:54,">>115887886 GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLSGTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS >GTFO FREE MARKET SHILLS",,Anonymous,32874623874638.jpg,NqmfiQTjaEWocaiOS7+MEw==,DE,,1489056114 115887886,115906235,2017-03-09 10:42:39,">>115904930 What you're pretty much saying is that gaining rent from land is immoral because it was given to certain people from the government, while renting out capital is not because it was derived from private production. First of all, not all land is given to citizens by government, some is purchased and some is homesteaded. Secondly, if only rents derived from land that wasn't bought, then capital derived from government grant should also not be able to be rented either. This creates the same problems that reparations to descendants of slaves causes, as it is very hard to even roughly calculate how much others benefitted from social ills. I understand that it is unfair that governments and certain people got to hold land due to illegitimate means, but the tragedy of the commons would be terrible if we let anyone use land as they pleased.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489056159 115887886,115906264,2017-03-09 10:43:08,">>115906178 Commie detected",,Anonymous,commieremovingintensifies.jpg,Iv2U8plU3dI7ectzjB5AVg==,TR,,1489056188 115887886,115906365,2017-03-09 10:44:16,">>115906178 >le ebil capitalists and their pawns meme No one will ever take you seriously if you accuse people who you disagree with of dishonesty while they don't accuse you of the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489056256 115887886,115906406,2017-03-09 10:44:43,">>115906178 >[Helicopter idles in the distance]",,Anonymous,1475469143602.jpg,Owopha5uaIpWYl09+OuWLw==,DE,,1489056283 115887886,115906503,2017-03-09 10:46:00,">>115905859 >End the socialisation of moral hazards such as niggers. WTF I love Anarcho Capitalism now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489056360 115887886,115906548,2017-03-09 10:46:31,">>115906235 again from this essay ive been musing on >I understand that it is unfair that governments and certain people got to hold land due to illegitimate means, but the tragedy of the commons would be terrible if we let anyone use land as they pleased. ""But we're used to it"" A favorite excuse of royal libertarians is that the land has been divided up for so long that tracing the rightful owners would be pointless. But there can be no rightful owners if we all have an inalienable right of access to the earth. It is not some ancient injustice we seek to rectify, but an ongoing injustice. The piece of paper granting title might be ancient, but the tribute levied on the landless goes on and on. One might as well have accepted monarchy under the excuse that whatever conquest led to monarchy occurred centuries ago, and that tracing the rightful monarchs would be pointless. Indeed, landed aristocracy is the last remnant of monarchy. >I understand that it is unfair that governments and certain people got to hold land due to illegitimate means, but the tragedy of the commons would be terrible if we let anyone use land as they pleased. The tragedy of the common misunderstanding In their search for excuses to deny any common right to land, royal libertarians are fond of citing Garrett Hardin's work, ""Tragedy of the Commons."" Or at least they cite the title, which is all most royal libertarians are familiar with. Hardin is himself an advocate of land value taxation, and has criticized misinterpretations of his work with the lament that ""The title of my 1968 paper should have been `The Tragedy of the Unmanaged Commons.'"" [Emphasis Hardin's]",,Anonymous,AnarchismTree09.gif,7QPD8RGPI7DZoPFc+kgttQ==,US,,1489056391 115887886,115906672,2017-03-09 10:48:01,">>115906178 Can you hear the helicopters? Are you ready for the ride?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1489056481 115887886,115906685,2017-03-09 10:48:07,>>115906178,,Anonymous,gunslibertarian.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,BR,,1489056487 115887886,115906733,2017-03-09 10:48:48,"There are a lot of shills on pol now. Some are just neo liberal mealymouthed totalitarian anti-freedom general left wing/DIM-ocrats and others are Soros funded trolls. They are losing the battle in the legacy media, so they are attacking us on pol, YouTube and other forums. They are going after our credibility. Soon they will come after us personally by doxing us and sending antifa gangs after us. Fucking savages!",,Anonymous,11-14-16 moon pick.jpg,LODhsa8oX2pSWd/VX0XWAQ==,US,,1489056528 115887886,115906923,2017-03-09 10:50:55,">>115906548 >Or at least they cite the title, which is all most royal libertarians are familiar with. I mean, it's easy to attack people who adopt an ideology in name but don't study its works. Fools are fools and I'm sure we can all agree on that, and I think we can also agree that it's not an effective way of arguing against the ideology itself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489056655 115887886,115907148,2017-03-09 10:53:34,">When people think you're an ancap but you're just a nazi who wants to hang commies Yes, meine Friends I'm one of you.",,Anonymous,Le_happy_german.jpg,Fo59QB+0u9o7YmWIUFafuA==,DE,,1489056814 115887886,115907162,2017-03-09 10:53:42,">>115887886 >when you're still in your libertarian phase",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489056822 115887886,115907222,2017-03-09 10:54:15,">>115906548 >""The title of my 1968 paper should have been `The Tragedy of the Unmanaged Commons.' Yes, and again, I reiterate: You can avoid the tragedy of the commons with government management, but that level of management would be highly intrusive and not at all libertarian. And how do you even settle disputes about where to place capital on land? The government would have to be involved.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489056855 115887886,115907277,2017-03-09 10:54:50,">>115907148 We'll throw you last.",,Anonymous,removed.png,2vPbL/sJgWeLtS+2WkNMLQ==,PT,,1489056890 115887886,115907339,2017-03-09 10:55:29,">>115907162 What phase are you in now, anon?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489056929 115887886,115907343,2017-03-09 10:55:33,">>115906503 This is what anarcho-capitalism unironically is. Those who are ancaps and don't acknowledge this are misguided useful idiots.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489056933 115887886,115907451,2017-03-09 10:56:38,">>115907277 Oh nein im one of you, i swear!",,Anonymous,1430683920001.png,+NT+tYQJPM3YvDBpNANufg==,DE,,1489056998 115887886,115907488,2017-03-09 10:56:57,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EqfTQJS8JA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uht9ke6oPB8",,Anonymous,1ad6259918981df27fe93a872755cf650a7ced3c897e22695f3369892e0fc1f2_1.jpg,971l7sFnSZBYwT9RmwkNDQ==,BR,,1489057017 115887886,115907854,2017-03-09 11:01:04,>>115907451,,Anonymous,REMOVE.png,O1m4Cx5zWxVIZd7UwvgdOg==,PT,,1489057264 115887886,115907855,2017-03-09 11:01:04,">>115907451 Whatever dude, just as long as you don't try to redistribute my shit I won't have to remove you.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1489057264 115887886,115907961,2017-03-09 11:02:12,">>115890883 I love his show!",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1489057332 115887886,115908049,2017-03-09 11:03:10,">>115907451 Whatever, as long as he stays in his own covenant and BTFOs commies",,Anonymous,1487109017713.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,DE,,1489057390 115887886,115908064,2017-03-09 11:03:18,">>115906923 i see your point but you've got to understand i've never graduated high school and have 0 peers to discuss this sort of shit with i'm educating myself by reading your arguments against georgism. This is how i learn senpai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489057398 115887886,115908095,2017-03-09 11:03:39,">>115905859 so he fucks with State-Lite man i hope he stretched before all that reaching",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489057419 115887886,115908201,2017-03-09 11:04:50,">>115892164 here I am!",,Anonymous,gadsden_flag_irl.png,JBKXrSzX/7XDDJGXp4TulA==,IT,,1489057490 115887886,115908424,2017-03-09 11:07:16,">>115907222 >but that level of management would be highly intrusive and not at all libertarian Much of the government spending to which libertarians strenuously object is made necessary by its taxing productivity instead of land values. The property tax falls mostly on improvements, so less housing is built, giving the government an excuse to build public housing. Profits are taxed, leading to less employment and giving government an excuse to spend money on economic stimulus projects. Family income is taxed to the point that they have difficulty buying a house or sending their children to college, so government institutes subsidized mortgages and student loans. Even the indirect effects are substantial. Land speculations gone sour chew up inner cities, so poor people turn to crime (if drug selling and prostitution be crimes) and the government gets an excuse to beef up the police state. Politically connected real estate interests see that they can buy up land in the boondocks for a pittance and then get other taxpayers to build them a superhighway, increasing the value of their holdings by orders of magnitude. With land value tax they would have ultimately paid for their own highway or more likely would not have had it built in the first place. Even welfare increases do not stay in the hands of welfare recipients, but are quickly greeted by higher rent demands from ghetto landlords. (The War on Poverty did little to end poverty, but it did a lot to enrich absentee owners of poor communities.) All goes back to the land, and the land owner is enabled to absorb to himself a share of almost every public and every private benefit, however important or however pitiful those benefits may be. --Winston Churchill Unless youre a complete anarchist i think you see the value in government mangement. To me If youre getting rid of taxes on production and productive endeavors and transferring the debt to unearned wealth you've sort of struck a natural balance",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489057636 115887886,115908431,2017-03-09 11:07:20,">>115906923 >>115908064 Also I was only talking about the original definition of the tragedy of the commons, which was written about by William Forster Lloyd in 1833, not by whoever this other 20th century guy is.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489057640 115887886,115908501,2017-03-09 11:08:11,">>115893452 >Just look at your pathetic party. The Libertarian Party is not very libertarian.",,Anonymous,saying illegals is hate speech.png,Js+KMXJiJhg3AY+Aw1JIXg==,US,,1489057691 115887886,115908507,2017-03-09 11:08:13,">>115908095 I didn't understand your comment.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489057693 115887886,115908673,2017-03-09 11:10:21,">>115893529 Honestly the biggest barrier to listening to him and having other people take him seriously is his casual racism. Moral arguments are always more compelling to people and he does himself and his ideas a disservice when he goes on about kikes and niggers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489057821 115887886,115908844,2017-03-09 11:12:20,">>115906235 did the capital arise from the owner's own labor or the labor of others that he appropriated? citation or clarification pls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489057940 115887886,115908894,2017-03-09 11:13:00,">>115908673 That's what I like about him, he knows his shit and isn't a pussy about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489057980 115887886,115909193,2017-03-09 11:16:36,>>115908673,,Anonymous,racism races exist.jpg,mgbqV4GY+iWOdJNjjBSZfA==,CH,,1489058196 115887886,115909344,2017-03-09 11:18:14,">>115907162 >>115908049 I feel like I'm on the cusp of endorsing Hoppean libertarianism, but something is still holding me back from endorsing it 100%. I like the idea of people being able to live in convents according to their preferred ideology (so long as they aren't forcing people to do so and individuals can freely opt out) but am suspicious of the idea that a privatization of justice would actually work. >Also, how would that work? I believe people tend towards corruption as a matter of self-interest, so what is to stop someone from creating a local monopoly on justice? While there might be more just individuals offering justice elsewhere, what is to stop someone from creating a local monopoly of injustice and corruption? Also, how would protection of the environment be ensured in a libertarian-right/an-cap society?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489058294 115887886,115909349,2017-03-09 11:18:17,">>115887966 Anyone have a rec for what order these should be read in? Or at least which one should be read first?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489058297 115887886,115909458,2017-03-09 11:19:33,">>115908424 I do see the point of government managing land. I think private property, however, is a much better mechanism for organising land without government interference. I haven't really looked at the idea of taxing rents rather than income in the framework of private property, but it may be a good idea. Understand that any taxation under a libertarian system is going to be far lower than what we experience today. Thus no matter where it comes from, it won't have nearly as much of an impact on economic activity. Since I'm guessing you don't know much about economic thought (I don't mean to be rude), I should let you know that georgists are almost entirely unheard of in modern economics. Even Austrians like Hoppe are seen as fringe, let alone Georgists. There must be a reason for this. I know it's an appeal to authority but it honestly does mean something. I've had to argue against this concept without ever hearing much about it before just going from the economic principles I already know. Anyway, I have to go to bed. Have a nice day! >>115908844 Sometimes owners create capital themselves through labour, sometimes they buy it and sometimes they forcefully appropriate it from others labour through slavery. The latter mostly happens outside of the first world these days though.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489058373 115887886,115909491,2017-03-09 11:19:59,">>115908431 from what i can gleam Hardins paper just espoused Llyods ideas and by all accounts Hardins work is credited for making ""tragedy of the commons"" more popular in the 20th century",,Anonymous,henry-georges-quotes-1.jpg,5eDqcT5JKWYhA4lM9wG9nw==,US,,1489058399 115887886,115909498,2017-03-09 11:20:05,">>115909193 My elderly mom looks hotter than that abo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489058405 115887886,115909523,2017-03-09 11:20:18,">>115890735 >Janusz Korwin-Mikke kek I'd go for sure",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489058418 115887886,115909527,2017-03-09 11:20:21,">>115889588 None. Libertarianism is a species of liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489058421 115887886,115909579,2017-03-09 11:20:50,">>115909349 Ethics of private property first",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489058450 115887886,115909683,2017-03-09 11:21:55,">>115908673 /pol/ won't really appreciate this. Especially after Trump won using similar rhetoric. However when public intellectuals are as racist as Hoppe, cultured and educated people are likely to be turned away. /pol/ is unlikely to recognise this because most browsers don't move in intellectual circles.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489058515 115887886,115909702,2017-03-09 11:22:07,">>115909458 Enjoy your rest try not to get killed by an emu or a spider",,Anonymous,too-damn-high.jpg,TI3nyofUPW4+byNvMNk/6A==,US,,1489058527 115887886,115909802,2017-03-09 11:23:04,">>115908894 >>115909193 >>115909498 I'd just like a more mainstream ""friendly face"" to advance the ideas.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489058584 115887886,115909916,2017-03-09 11:24:01,">>115909683 This seems accurate to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489058641 115887886,115910098,2017-03-09 11:25:49,,,Anonymous,2d8778d6c6931a544fdf1da8305947d3a6252476f83e1c7badce664f6066e570_1.jpg,L1oK67UI/9Z2jRv/IduWfw==,BR,,1489058749 115887886,115910114,2017-03-09 11:25:57,">>115909344 Private ownership of the natures means that the owner has a vested interest in his property and wants to preserve and maintain it, so that its increasing in value.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489058757 115887886,115910221,2017-03-09 11:26:55,">>115909802 Better not be at the cost of lying about the ideas. That's what our ""libertarian"" party did, didn't turn out so good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489058815 115887886,115910234,2017-03-09 11:27:05,">>115909458 heh the reason could be that these so called modern economists make a killing off land speculation desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489058825 115887886,115910354,2017-03-09 11:28:28,">>115909344 >I believe people tend towards corruption as a matter of self-interest, so what is to stop someone from creating a local monopoly on justice? While there might be more just individuals offering justice elsewhere, what is to stop someone from creating a local monopoly of injustice and corruption? Great question. The answer is that most people would be armed to the teeth in case this problem ever arose. After all, who would first give up their arms (the most immediate and personal form of self-defense) in order to be protected by a supposed insurance/defense agency? Insurers and defense agencies would be interested in having their clients armed (and well-trained), so as to deter criminality and therefore keep premium prices low. In case this did not happen, and indeed one company decided to attempt to become a rogue monopolist, these questions arise: a) How would they fund it? After all, that company too must have had massive capital in order to attempt pulling off such stunt. If any security agency decided to aggress against its own customers by becoming a monopoly, it would go instantly bankrupt because people would simply stop paying up. b) Who would give them weapons? Since there would be no state to attack and no state apparatus to immediately take over, the rogue agency would need to knock on everyone's door to demand the payment of their fraudulent services (taxation). They would encounter resistance movements and guerrilla warfare tactics used by their previous customers or other people. c) And what would they do with other companies? The other companies, in attempting to fulfill their promises as a property rights enforcer, would most certainly jump in and assist their own customers at fighting and ultimately destroying the rogue company. The would-be monopolist would after all be a massive insurance risk since they'd have to destroy and expropriate massive amounts of property, thus raising crime and premiums.",,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1489058908 115887886,115910554,2017-03-09 11:30:34,">>115909916 >>115909683 >>115910221 I view Hoppe and libertarianism in general as more of an axis to move along. To that end, someone like Ben Shapiro is probably more useful to the movement than its intellectual leaders or supposed political representation. In practical terms we're arguing against retarded socialists that 55% of millennials agree with religiously. That's a problem, and it will have to be dealt with in the public forum at least and until violence breaks out.",,Anonymous,soc1.png,KLaWMhC/26J+RWGVDJhyPg==,US,,1489059034 115887886,115911029,2017-03-09 11:35:28,">>115887886 >libertarian >right top kek",,Anonymous,a03.jpg,E3dluyFeT0F8zDxxaiPjng==,US,,1489059328 115887886,115911043,2017-03-09 11:35:36,">>115910354 Thank you, this was very interesting. I was forgetting that not every country has Canadian gun laws. So if I'm understanding correctly, the issue of protection from malevolent individuals is dealt with through the combination of individuals defending their private property, and insurance companies assisting them in doing so. And what about the enforcing of contracts? What is to prevent someone from signing a contract with another individual, and breaking it? Or would this constitute a violation of the NAP, and thus the other person would be within natural rights to forcefully extract payment? And what happens if even the seizure of another person's assets is insufficient to pay for services rendered? I suppose indentured servitude is always an option",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489059336 115887886,115911240,2017-03-09 11:37:40,"Hoppe is an anarcho-capitalist. Libertarians believe in limited government which Hoppe does not. Hoppe is also not very logically consistent since he imposes moral systems on others while simultaneously condemning that practice by others.",,Anonymous,1478961630881.jpg,Chg9JzFPpQL0psCfYZ+Jfw==,SE,,1489059460 115887886,115911344,2017-03-09 11:38:38,">>115911043 >So if I'm understanding correctly, the issue of protection from malevolent individuals is dealt with through the combination of individuals defending their private property, and insurance companies assisting them in doing so. Correct. > And what about the enforcing of contracts? What is to prevent someone from signing a contract with another individual, and breaking it? Or would this constitute a violation of the NAP, and thus the other person would be within natural rights to forcefully extract payment? it would be a violation of the NAP and of a contract. You would take the contract to your insurance agency/justice provider and they would contact the person/insurer of the person who defrauded you and enforce it. >And what happens if even the seizure of another person's assets is insufficient to pay for services rendered? Temporary slavery is an option. Although I too have trouble with this because theoretically I could put a man working on extremely low value production lines and thus enslave him forever. I need to read more on this.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489059518 115887886,115911412,2017-03-09 11:39:22,>>115911029,,Anonymous,1488324772508.png,sSipoYlGd7F0nN35Ca8DsA==,BR,,1489059562 115887886,115911746,2017-03-09 11:42:46,">>115911412 >we can save lolbrtarianism by associating it with helicopter memes that originated from a country that was in no way lolbertarian Yeah I'm not sure that's gonna work but good luck hue monkey",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489059766 115887886,115911906,2017-03-09 11:44:31,">>115909523 Is that the guy who says women are less intelligent than men?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1489059871 115887886,115911935,2017-03-09 11:44:49,">>115911344 Thank you, this is very interesting > it would be a violation of the NAP and of a contract. You would take the contract to your insurance agency/justice provider and they would contact the person/insurer of the person who defrauded you and enforce it. What would stop someone from going to their insurance agency and claiming that a contract had been broken, when this isn't the case? Imagine a hypothetical case where person B pays in advance for person A to render services unto person B (pre-orders, house repairs, etc. Etc.). Person A does in fact render services unto person B. However, at this point, person B goes to their insurance agency and claims that person A has not in fact rendered services. The insurance company of person B (insurance company B) goes to person A and demands that they render services, at which point there is a conflict. Is there a solution to this scenario? Or would pre-pay just cease to be a thing?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489059889 115887886,115912025,2017-03-09 11:45:49,">>115911746 >REEEEEEEEE STOP NOT CONFORMING TO MY KIKE-INSPIRED STEREOTYPE Stay mad.",,Anonymous,whatisneshissary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,RO,,1489059949 115887886,115912118,2017-03-09 11:46:57,">>115911906 Yes and he's not wrong. But the media misinterpreted what he meant when he said women *must* earn less than men. He didn't say women SHOULD earn less than men, but that given the empirical evidence (brain mass, body strength, IQ, # of chess players) they of course *must* earn less than men on average. He was simply stating facts and countering the usual feminist excuse of ""discrimination.""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489060017 115887886,115912141,2017-03-09 11:47:05,">>115887886 Libertarianism is a Jewish invention, most of the degeneracy in this world comes from capitalism Fascism and socialism is the only solution to deal with judeo-capitalists",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489060025 115887886,115912281,2017-03-09 11:48:35,">>115911746 Milton Friedman taught pinochet his economic principles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489060115 115887886,115912429,2017-03-09 11:50:10,">>115912025 Play with your meme tier ideology all you want, I don't give a fuck, just don't call it right wing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489060210 115887886,115912452,2017-03-09 11:50:32,">>115911935 B would be the accuser, so he'd have to come up with evidence to support his accusation. A could simply show them the house works, receipts for the things he had to purchase in order to render the service, witness accounts, etc. Of course if A lost the case and yet his coworkers / company knew for a fact A had rendered such services, they could simply blacklist B forever and even be kind enough to pass that information along several other companies (like banks currently do). It would most likely pan out like it does in modern times, except faster and more efficiently since there would not be a monopoly on justice.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489060232 115887886,115912642,2017-03-09 11:52:31,">>115912281 >turning over your country's economic interests to a Jew Really makes you think",,Anonymous,chile_gdp.jpg,bsD2uGTslVvKcDrQ/BArYg==,US,,1489060351 115887886,115912730,2017-03-09 11:53:26,">>115912429 What, are you afraid people might wake up and realize you are as bad as the other deceivers? That not even Hitler was truly a ""socialist"", as Germany had really low taxes even during wartime and didn't nationalize even its war industries?",,Anonymous,nupoljupol.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,RO,,1489060406 115887886,115912844,2017-03-09 11:54:37,">>115912452 Interesting. And I am a bit fuzzy on the notion of there not being a monopoly on justice. How would that work? Let's take for example the case of someone attempting to get justice for lost wages. Corporation A has not upheld their contract with person B to pay them a specified wage for labor and services rendered. Person B, upset by this, goes to a private judge(tm) who declares that corporation A is guilty and must pay up. How would such a ruling be enforced? What is to prevent the corruption of judges?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489060477 115887886,115912935,2017-03-09 11:55:33,">>115912730 >muh all collectivism is left wing >anarchy is the real far-right guise!!!1 KYS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489060533 115887886,115913021,2017-03-09 11:56:31,">>115912429 It's true that classical liberalism and the resultant diminishing of state powers was once considered left wing. But that definition is long gone. Stop living in the 18th century and stop acting so asshurt.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489060591 115887886,115913032,2017-03-09 11:56:35,>>115912935,,Anonymous,arguments.jpg,bjL/PpYDvk22LsQBMLIyEg==,RO,,1489060595 115887886,115913188,2017-03-09 11:58:19,">>115912844 If Corporation A and B's justice provider/insurer was the same entity, there would have to be either pre-established clauses in their contracts to deal with cases involving people from the same company; or, if they were separate agencies and no agreement was reached, they could recur to a third- and also privately-funded- meta-agency who is specifically designed to settle cases between competing agencies.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489060699 115887886,115913230,2017-03-09 11:58:42,">>115912429 >Thinking NatSoc is right wing. >Hitler was inspired by radical socialist Mussolini",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489060722 115887886,115913288,2017-03-09 11:59:13,">>115913032 >he's a molymemer And we've found the source of your retardation. Hurt yourself before you kys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489060753 115887886,115913585,2017-03-09 12:02:14,>tfw not living in a collectivist city-state in an ancap world,,Anonymous,,,IT,,1489060934 115887886,115913597,2017-03-09 12:02:20,>>115913288,,Anonymous,autismlevelhasincreased.jpg,J7yOaaYiMbLGNC18U57/tw==,RO,,1489060940 115887886,115913611,2017-03-09 12:02:28,">>115913230 >Hitler was a lefty >Mussolini was a lefty >Napoleon was a lefty >Julius Caesar was a lefty >The Pharoahe was a lefty >Everyone knows the fathers of far right ideology are Bakunin and Thomas Jefferson!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489060948 115887886,115913663,2017-03-09 12:02:49,">>115913288 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489060969 115887886,115913796,2017-03-09 12:03:58,">>115913663 Principle of charity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489061038 115887886,115913853,2017-03-09 12:04:27,">>115893292 dutuere is a economically a commie",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489061067 115887886,115914023,2017-03-09 12:06:22,">>115913611 Mussolini was a far left guy. Prove me wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489061182 115887886,115914032,2017-03-09 12:06:27,">>115887927 thomas sowell isn't an austrian economist. neither is friedman.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489061187 115887886,115914116,2017-03-09 12:07:16,">>115913021 >muh overton window shifted so far to the left that us degenerates are right wing now >stop trying to move the window farther to the right and accept that we are as far right as it gets yeah no, fuck off faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489061236 115887886,115914183,2017-03-09 12:07:51,">>115887886 Henry George was right",,Anonymous,emmememe.jpg,ii2fbCLmnFokum3pcpYiXg==,US,,1489061271 115887886,115914289,2017-03-09 12:09:04,">>115914023 He was and then he became a man when he served in WW1. Fascism is supposed to transcend the left/right dichotomy, that's why it is called the Third Way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489061344 115887886,115914425,2017-03-09 12:10:17,">>115914032 This thread isn't just for ancaps even tho it is mostly. Fascists need a stepping stone to abandon their commie ways.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489061417 115887886,115914694,2017-03-09 12:13:10,">>115912844 You'll notice soon enough that they never have any proper answers for this. Let's ignore altogether the issues with a privatized rule of law and justice system, and contemplate those individuals who never acquire insurance (intentionally or unintentionally). Since there are no laws, acts considered crimes under a particular individual's insurance is not a crime for the person committing crimes against the insured. Ancap also barely has a leg to stand on when it comes to child care, the inevitable pedophilia havens and so on. The ancap stance on abortion is incoherent, no one knows how to deal with children growing up, whether parents are legally/morally obliged to care for them, etc.",,Anonymous,1446050504168.png,nZaP400z3qbE5Pac6ckhSA==,SE,,1489061590 115887886,115914858,2017-03-09 12:14:43,">>115914116 If you went for the old definition you'd have to include fuckers like Stalin under right wing. Why would you get so butthurt over this? It's just needlessly confusing.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489061683 115887886,115914904,2017-03-09 12:15:07,">>115914694 DROs and the child is the parents property until the child can demonstrate self ownership. Next.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489061707 115887886,115914932,2017-03-09 12:15:25,">>115914694 I've already debated you on pedophilia in the last 300 threads. I'm sure you're the same swede who always tries to bait us into explaining to you why pedophilia would not happen under AnCapism as much as it happens now.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489061725 115887886,115915058,2017-03-09 12:16:35,,,Anonymous,a005ad0256c66bf5e52f18ca27fcb1eb51b87a81a0d4cec80ed15069c84b95af_1.jpg,kKIlbcpfNZhgqos5yynt8g==,BR,,1489061795 115887886,115915089,2017-03-09 12:17:01,">>115913188 Hmm, so would judges essentially function as employees of insurance companies? I'm still trying to picture how this would play out, since enforcing contracts is fundamental to the operation of a free market. >>115914694 I'm currently reading https://www.mises.org/library/law-without-state (Murphy, 2011) which suggests that entrance to private property would be contingent upon the person having insurance. If you're a storeowner, require customers to scan a card verifying that they have insurance before you allow them into your shop, something like that.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489061821 115887886,115915215,2017-03-09 12:18:12,">>115914858 No, because Marxism is a materialist worldview that rejects all transcendence and rejects the Divine as the source of all authority. It is not right wing at all. Authoritarianism isn't inherently right wing and neither is libertarianism. It is a stupid, elementary, historically revisionist way to see the world and understand political science.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489061892 115887886,115915317,2017-03-09 12:19:24,">>115915089 That could happen or you could also have separate insurance and justice providers. The former to insure the customers and indemnify them. The latter to strictly analyze cases where disputes exist.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489061964 115887886,115915583,2017-03-09 12:22:02,If all the separatists groups in Europe had success,,Anonymous,IMG_20170309_141449.jpg,Ah7oVwoqQQ0AFtf3jwpZLw==,BR,,1489062122 115887886,115915644,2017-03-09 12:22:35,">>115915215 >Divine as the source of all authority >Authoritarianism isn't inherently right wing If I say that the Lord gave me sole ownership over my property am now right wing enough to you? So basically you're advocating theocracy is the only way to be right wing? God you sound delusional. Good thing you'll never ever be relevant.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489062155 115887886,115915700,2017-03-09 12:23:09,">>115915583 Beautiful. This is what will ultimately happen after the EU/NWO collapses and we are once again free from this slavery.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489062189 115887886,115915824,2017-03-09 12:24:18,">>115915644 Theocracy, monarchy, or Fascism as an eventual means towards either of those yes, those are the only right wing ideologies. Everything else is literally degenerate, modern man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489062258 115887886,115915870,2017-03-09 12:24:50,">>115915583 Catalonia should be split further, catalunya nova / catalunya vella.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489062290 115887886,115916155,2017-03-09 12:27:54,">>115915870 You mean Nova Catalunya, Catalunya Oriental and Val d'Aran?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489062474 115887886,115916225,2017-03-09 12:28:32,">>115897302 >good goy, $0.01 has been deposited into your federal reserve fractional savings account",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489062512 115887886,115916239,2017-03-09 12:28:40,">>115915089 >which suggests that entrance to private property would be contingent upon the person having insurance Which would make a private insurance company indistinguishable from government, because in order to even enjoy the concept of property you would have to ""agree"" to a set of principles laid out by others before you. The ancap vision is that numerous insurance companies would exist, and that ""countries"" would essentially be covered by larger all-encompassing insurance companies with slightly differing policies, that all agree on some fundamental principles of justice. This runs contrary to the entire concept of property rights and negative rights in general, because the idea is that rights pre-exist current systems of law and are universal -- the exist regardless of an insurance company's or a government's ability to guarantee them. You saw another guy say about child care: >the child is the parents property until the child can demonstrate self ownership If ""self-ownership"" is not dependent upon the very fact of being a human being, then you have set an arbitrary and subjective standard for when human beings can and can not be the property of others. If a child is property, can it be killed on a whim? After all it's just property. If the ability of ""demonstrating self-ownership"" is a requirement for not being property, why not make ""being white"" and ""having a demonstrable IQ over 90"" requirements? Again, no consistency, just sheer lunacy through and through. You should really read I think it's Rothbard's text on child care... it's literally insane and he keeps violating his own principles of morality in order to give a coherent framework for child care.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489062520 115887886,115916360,2017-03-09 12:29:55,">>115916155 Pre and post reconquista, barcelona and girona get quite a lot of hate in here for their degeneracy and thinking they're hot shit and the original catalans https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalunya_Nova also, vall d'aran is already in the map, it's just a dot",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1489062595 115887886,115916412,2017-03-09 12:30:20,">>115915824 All this religious zealotry is retarded. Why should you define what religion others follow? Why isn't this inherently authoritarian to you? And how is it not degenerate to remove all self-determination for yourself and just being a cuck taking orders from the Pope?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489062620 115887886,115916504,2017-03-09 12:31:30,">>115898491 so instead of forcibly adopting them yourself, because you are terrified of responsibility, you would prefer we all suffer a gigantic state that taxes everybody to ""fix"" the problem >which is what we already have >it has not fixed the problem why do you even bother thinking? you could save yourself so much time and effort and have a great life if you got off the internet and just learned a trade",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489062690 115887886,115916789,2017-03-09 12:34:18,">>115887886 Distributism is the only salvation. Three acres and a cow!",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1489062858 115887886,115916856,2017-03-09 12:34:54,">>115916412 >religion is so stupid, stop telling me what to do! >look at how right wing I am!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489062894 115887886,115917237,2017-03-09 12:38:45,">>115915700 Your vision of the future intrigues me Portuganon. >>115916239 Your country is currently committing suicide through its religious devotion to liberal ideals. And what is there to stop a parent from killing their child under the current, government regulations? Unless you're in favor of all children being taken away from parents at birth and being raised as wards of the state, there is absolutely nothing to prevent a parent from using their bare hands to choke their child to death. Clearly, we can see that under the current system, abuses can and do happen, with the government almost always intervening when it is too late, or falsely imprisoning those who are innocent. And the criticism that concepts of self-ownership are arbitrary is no more forceful than saying that the age of consent is arbitrary, or that the age to vote is arbitrary, or anything else.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489063125 115887886,115917329,2017-03-09 12:39:37,">>115916856 >The Lord told me I should rule over you Not point trying to reason with morons like you.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489063177 115887886,115917392,2017-03-09 12:40:15,">>115917237 Indeed. This thread is going to get shut down. Nice talking to you and meet you on the next thread. If you come up with more questions, I'll answer them next time.",,Anonymous,1442623-1-L.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,PT,,1489063215 116013999,116013999,2017-03-10 03:46:47,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Snek,hippity hoppity get off my property.jpg,B7dUzmLWkuGISCelso1NPA==,SK,,1489117607 116013999,116014255,2017-03-10 03:50:24,Shit ideology.,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489117824 116013999,116014359,2017-03-10 03:51:57,">>116014255 this desu Even so, I'm willing to collaborate with them for now. Greater threats on the horizon.",,Anonymous,1.jpg,kCm4iiZ1UH2esy8aDQQ0cA==,US,,1489117917 116013999,116014362,2017-03-10 03:52:03,">>116014255 Shit country, shit people, shit flag; just all round shit cunts.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489117923 116013999,116014382,2017-03-10 03:52:27,Redpill me on Austrian Economics,,Anonymous,,,US,,1489117947 116013999,116014540,2017-03-10 03:54:40,,,Snek,hopper join or die.png,s0DfvflAbVbQ/f9qsQw/eQ==,SK,,1489118080 116013999,116014638,2017-03-10 03:55:52,">>116013999 nice trips though",,Anonymous,1481415234167.gif,iG9/kVN8gYTXI1gxHN1kTQ==,CA,,1489118152 116013999,116014763,2017-03-10 03:57:16,,,Snek,hoppe ancapwave.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,SK,,1489118236 116013999,116014908,2017-03-10 03:59:05,">>116014359 We're going our way and if you try to stop us, we'll make Stalin look like a nice uncle.",,Snek,hoppe for dummies.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,SK,,1489118345 116013999,116017644,2017-03-10 04:38:09,">>116014382 Poor people should do poor people's jobs, because there's a demand for them.",,Snek,,,SK,,1489120689 116013999,116017690,2017-03-10 04:38:54,">>116014638 >LP Good bait. The traitors die first.",,Snek,hoppe removal poem.jpg,LIOHfK9V9BhGr4hGzslqvg==,SK,,1489120734 116045873,116045873,2017-03-10 10:54:28,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FREE HELICOPTER RIDES EDITION,Anonymous,1489008765390.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,GR,,1489143268 116045873,116045946,2017-03-10 10:55:21,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1489143321 116045873,116045975,2017-03-10 10:55:35,">>116045873 Oh, boy! I am first post on libertarian thread I love your work. You guys are allright",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489143335 116045873,116045995,2017-03-10 10:55:47,,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1489143347 116045873,116047217,2017-03-10 11:10:12,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg,,Anonymous,125091255125091212.png,SW+JkqM7NPx/FlF5heciPA==,US,,1489144212 116045873,116047904,2017-03-10 11:17:55,friedman type lolbertarian who despises austrian school reporting,,Anonymous,1436567550757.jpg,9mSDhOdeyx/AIQQJKUVOHA==,CA,,1489144675 116311254,116311254,2017-03-12 10:20:47,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1489314047 116311254,116311324,2017-03-12 10:21:39,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1489314099 116311254,116311369,2017-03-12 10:22:12,,,Anonymous,1486943909831.png,gGLUgX3jP4xxJx+JqvM6KA==,US,,1489314132 116311254,116311375,2017-03-12 10:22:15,WE WILL NEVER CAPITULATE.,,Anonymous,664228b91b49409158faf98165d606303f3180b7.gif,vZBpECag9eTwE7e/WHXEqA==,GB,,1489314135 116311254,116311560,2017-03-12 10:24:35,">>116311375 That's fine, you guys are good at keeping the fags out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489314275 116311254,116311797,2017-03-12 10:27:41,"Got any of those books an audio? I don't have much time to read, but I have plenty of time to listen to audiobooks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489314461 116311254,116311915,2017-03-12 10:29:16,">>116311797 Yeah there a good few of them on audio, aswell as hoppe has readings of his own books. what do you want? I might be able to find a link.",,Anonymous,1487070028227.jpg,HjVXH9vLzhrNNiOo28uejg==,US,,1489314556 116311254,116312188,2017-03-12 10:32:45,>tfw the only serious libertarian party in the world is in a country with two-party system,,Anonymous,gadsden18.jpg,sk8VUlRAivD21Xz0fm7Vig==,FI,,1489314765 116311254,116312420,2017-03-12 10:35:39,">>116312188 Our Libertarian party isn't serious. it was originally created to see how many libertarians there were. not to get a libertarian elected for anything. This is why I think they are such an embarrasment now a days. they pander to liberals to get votes instead of sticking to their guns.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489314939 116311254,116312775,2017-03-12 10:40:04,">>116312420 Better than this communist hell anyway. Pls all american libertarians move to a small country like Finland to swing the election",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1489315204 116311254,116312902,2017-03-12 10:41:30,,,Anonymous,17077952_435991540073363_360048898_n.jpg,/sB2wzY7HOoDiGxKtsutLQ==,SE,,1489315290 116311254,116312925,2017-03-12 10:41:47,">>116312420 >Our Libertarian party isn't serious neither is your ideology",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489315307 116311254,116312999,2017-03-12 10:42:48,>>116311254,,Anonymous,1489082960397.jpg,hgkunZ3ZAFsm7aWl/LZGdA==,DE,,1489315368 116311254,116313192,2017-03-12 10:45:05,">>116312775 nah m8 you gotta get to US. I don't think europe wants anyting close to a libertarian future. at least half of our republican party is libertarian tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489315505 116311254,116313319,2017-03-12 10:46:31,">>116312902 when you're finished turning your country into public property can we colonize it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489315591 116311254,116314266,2017-03-12 10:56:52,Whats going on here? do you fags hate freedom or somthing?,,Anonymous,GET OUT.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1489316212 116311254,116314314,2017-03-12 10:57:25,,,Anonymous,137042161345.jpg,MMqs9hNQnZVR3CqADnbn2g==,TR,,1489316245 116311254,116314605,2017-03-12 11:00:25,">>116314314 marxism is a spook. also stirner would get #rekt if he was on my lawn.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489316425 116311254,116314765,2017-03-12 11:02:19,">>116312188 >Serious >This guy",,Anonymous,gjohns.jpg,V5frliXlak2zMp97lg8ZVA==,US,,1489316539 116311254,116314967,2017-03-12 11:04:20,">>116314765 I fucking hate this mans dumb face.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489316660 116311254,116315297,2017-03-12 11:07:45,">>116312188 republican liberty caucus > libertarian party",,Anonymous,Naamloos.png,EW449o6SE53hjH0KrlhVhA==,NL,,1489316865 116311254,116315698,2017-03-12 11:12:01,">>116314967 Ruined an entire campaign by being a lazy stoner and uttering three little words... >What is Aleppo? Amazing",,Anonymous,raw.gif,jS0sAIgJf9CsbmwpyLCJPg==,US,,1489317121 116311254,116316752,2017-03-12 11:23:23,">>116315698 I wonder if the party has non-subverted people in it. Could I be the hitler of the libertarian party? >alright you cucks NO MORE OPEN BORDERS, NO MORE BAKING HOMO CAKES. >MY FIRST DAY IN OFFICE I WILL SIGN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO MOVE ALL COMMUNISTS TO CALIFORNIA AND BRING ALL COOL PEOPLE TO THE REST OF THE STATES. >I WILL DISOWN CALIFORNIA AS PART OF THE UNITED STATES >MILITARIZE THE FUCK OUT OF THE US/CALIFORNIA BOARDER >then we wait for them to destroy themselves or attack us/go to war with them. after war retake californa America saved.",,Anonymous,Flag.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,US,,1489317803 116311254,116317134,2017-03-12 11:27:31,">>116316752 I support this message",,Anonymous,tumblr_ogytz6HPM51vl7qs8o1_1280.jpg,HINXZgfKULKdyCUyPpOiPg==,US,,1489318051 116311254,116317732,2017-03-12 11:33:33,U guys r not bad.,,Anonymous,1488559135682.png,Y/V2kZAvtNEQS5ZiUgyqqg==,US,,1489318413 116311254,116318475,2017-03-12 11:40:52,">>116317134 >AnCap >Supporting Pinoche ????",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489318852 116311254,116318591,2017-03-12 11:41:54,">>116318475 Pinochet is to AnCap as Taylor Swift is to NatSoc. they're symbols thats it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489318914 116311254,116318602,2017-03-12 11:42:01,,,Anonymous,rothbard.png,GIPFTlL7KfbSg4lXdfc/qQ==,FI,,1489318921 116311254,116318671,2017-03-12 11:42:47,">>116318591 >Damage control",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489318967 116311254,116318761,2017-03-12 11:43:40,">>116311254 >libertarian >right nope.",,Anonymous,8fPx0QI.jpg,fP3M4b8H+vYSuGDVUS+DjA==,US,,1489319020 116311254,116318821,2017-03-12 11:44:17,">>116318671 Whatever dude, I don't care what a marxist thinks. go post pictures of stalin back of /leftypol/ faggot.",,Anonymous,augusto-pinochet-3.jpg,xpa9fY2csFPv4uIXQ2k+xQ==,US,,1489319057 116311254,116318909,2017-03-12 11:45:14,">>116318761 Nazis are ""third position"" centrists. you're larping.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489319114 116311254,116318958,2017-03-12 11:45:40,">>116311254 Right-wing libertarianism does not exist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489319140 116311254,116319196,2017-03-12 11:48:07,Can I stay here?,,Anonymous,chart.png,V3tfJBplYI0yxzh8aG0j5A==,GB,,1489319287 116311254,116319378,2017-03-12 11:49:55,">>116318602 how can ancaps ever recover?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1489319395 116311254,116319427,2017-03-12 11:50:37,">>116318958 exist how? you mean the idea doesn't exist? its the idea that a libertarian society would be more conservative as people would not be force not to discriminate againsts homos and shit. >116319196 yeah you alright.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489319437 116311254,116319497,2017-03-12 11:51:20,"Capitalism requires a state. A true free market has never been done. Prove me wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489319480 116311254,116319561,2017-03-12 11:52:02,">>116311254 Alright, so let me get this straight, the rich man doens't have to contribute anything to pay for the workingman's healthcare but the workingman has to contribute to pay for the rich man's police protection? How does that work?",,Anonymous,1434773439358.gif,BGJKwZNQKH9agKbFfwjO7g==,US,,1489319522 116311254,116319749,2017-03-12 11:53:51,">>116319561 It's called feudalism. Anarcho-capitalism would be identical to feudalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489319631 116311254,116319769,2017-03-12 11:54:03,">>116312902 TIL, Chile is the shittiest country in South America because it didn't embrace Marxism.... ...oh wait",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1489319643 116311254,116319824,2017-03-12 11:54:33,">>116319427 ''Libertarianism'' is still in the blue quadrant as the need to defend private property still exist, therefore, a state has to exist. It's why Hoppe unironically shills for monarchy. Your ideology is a failed one.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489319673 116311254,116319871,2017-03-12 11:54:59,">>116319749 Nobody forces the working man to work for rich man. It's voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1489319699 116311254,116320120,2017-03-12 11:57:21,,,Anonymous,p4Z8aZb.jpg,QkDZcZc313Twa65nfRcEeg==,RO,,1489319841 116311254,116320176,2017-03-12 11:57:53,">>116319561 >the rich man doens't have to contribute anything to pay for the workingman's healthcare Yes >but the workingman has to contribute to pay for the rich man's police protection? No How did you get to this conclusion in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1489319873 116311254,116320257,2017-03-12 11:58:37,">>116319749 I'm talking more about libertarianism Also pretty sure ancap is different than feudalism, although it might end up with a similar arrangement. >>116319871 but libertarians still force the workingman to pay taxes for the rich man's police, then say it's wrong to make the rich man pay for the workingman's healthcare. >>116320176 >How did you get to this conclusion in the first place? This is what libertarians say.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489319917 116311254,116320362,2017-03-12 11:59:44,">>116319561 The Rich man doesent have to pay for other peoples healthcare They Don't have to work for the rich man They don't have to pay for police protection No one HAS TO DO ANYTHING.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489319984 116311254,116320380,2017-03-12 11:59:58,,,Anonymous,Blank_089bee_5627483.jpg,B2+u6Zrwm9bxajSYarlbww==,RO,,1489319998 116311254,116320526,2017-03-12 12:01:26,">>116319871 >When reality doesn't meet your theory",,Anonymous,C6e0PB2U4AAn-mo.jpg_large.jpg,eXHPjBnAePA6EgruCFCuGg==,SE,,1489320086 116311254,116320544,2017-03-12 12:01:38,">>116320257 >This is what libertarians say. If there is any nonvoluntaryism, which is what you imply by the phrasing ""HAS to contribute to pay for the rich man's police protection"" then they're retards, not libertarians. Either that or you're retarded as well.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1489320098 116311254,116320728,2017-03-12 12:03:37,">>116320544 have a (you)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489320217 116311254,116320775,2017-03-12 12:04:05,,,Anonymous,tumblr_of5kdd6oNg1smqzfro1_500.png,c2uenwlXa9JR15GFCx9Z4Q==,RO,,1489320245 116311254,116320821,2017-03-12 12:04:42,">>116320526 >that comic >Sweden Gotta love how it conveniently ignores the implications that: 1) Working is disincentivized by applying penalties (taxes) 2) Dodges the real argument - Taxes are THEFT, not SLAVERY - to strawman the argument. wtf I'm a socdem now",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1489320282 116311254,116320852,2017-03-12 12:04:59,">>116318761 >literally a radical centrist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489320299 116311254,116320872,2017-03-12 12:05:10,,,Anonymous,44ef2b_5627483.jpg,jsxKNxkx2MemHRtIbdZsEw==,RO,,1489320310 116311254,116321114,2017-03-12 12:07:34,">>116319824 look i get that any hierarchy (even a voluntary one) is evil to you. I don't agree. I just want to get rid of agression against peacful people. your angry mob civilization would totally suck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489320454 116311254,116321349,2017-03-12 12:10:09,">>116320544 I don't think so, I think people who DON'T believe what I say are either voluntarists or anarchists. Basically all the libertarians I've talked to believe you have to have a tax-collecting state to protect >muh negative rights even though police protection is a service and saying you're entitled to it is a claim to a positive right...",,Anonymous,1456463735021.jpg,7pH4rWT+9VKSv8avH4V+/g==,US,,1489320609 116311254,116321473,2017-03-12 12:11:25,,,Anonymous,XRxi3mQ.png,v9QtN7xmPCid/A+hl9hBMw==,RO,,1489320685 116311254,116321895,2017-03-12 12:15:54,">>116321349 you're mixing up all ""libertarians"" into one thing. Theres left-libertarians who want open borders and positive rights. Theres minarchists who say there needs to be a state for military. (dudeweed republicans) and theres AnCaps who say no state is needed. they call call themselves libertarians even though they differ in opinion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489320954 116311254,116321984,2017-03-12 12:16:47,">>116311915 Not sure. I've always identified as a libertarian, but haven't yet really started reading deeper than surface policies. So what's best to start at?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489321007 116311254,116322051,2017-03-12 12:17:25,">>116320526 You can avoid working for the rich man by working for yourself (self employment), working within a voluntary collective, establishing a business or becoming a partner in a business and many others. You can avoid paying taxes by not worki- oh wait, you can't - that only gets rid of the income tax, but property tax, value added tax and a fuckload of others gotta be paid anyway. The only real alternative to paying taxes is leaving the country (but at this point where to? taxes are everywhere nowadays) or going off grid (which is often illegal now), both of which are far from perfect solutions. So no, work is still voluntary and taxes are still theft.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1489321045 116311254,116322217,2017-03-12 12:19:16,">>116311254 >libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1487084308862.jpg,3Eu5pNXPomHBta+E/YO2AA==,US,,1489321156 116311254,116322538,2017-03-12 12:22:29,">>116322217 >What is the political compass",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489321349 116311254,116322660,2017-03-12 12:23:46,,,Anonymous,1488733101571.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,PL,,1489321426 116311254,116322705,2017-03-12 12:24:10,">>116321895 >Theres left-libertarians who want open borders and positive rights. >Theres minarchists who say there needs to be a state for military. (dudeweed republicans) No, libertarians invented the whole positive/negative rights thing in the first place, no libertarian believes the government should guarantee ""positive"" rights. If you get rid of that and combine your ""left-libertarians"" and your ""minarchists"" you have a general outline of libertarians as such.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489321450 116311254,116322958,2017-03-12 12:26:54,">>116322538 Libertarianism is an offshoot of classical liberalism which was a leftist movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489321614 116311254,116322975,2017-03-12 12:27:03,">>116322217 >Posts pic of right leaning liberals >>116322705 right and a ""pure"" libertarian would advocate againsts positive rights all together. >>116321984 Maybe some of the economics centered books. Im currently reading Man, Economy, and State. Rothbard pretty much explains how value is created through production and other factors. and how theses factors work in a large economy you can download the audioboook here https://mises.org/library/man-economy-and-state-power-and-market I want to read The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hoppe next. I think economics and property are the most important things to understand for libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489321623 116311254,116323269,2017-03-12 12:29:59,">>116322705 Left-libertarians aka US Libertarian Party aka Literal Retards. Don't expect them to grasp the concept of positive rights. They are lefties who think that it's really important we allow gay couples to defend their hemp fields with fully automatic guns. They'd call you a nazi for using n word or implying that blacks use the welfare system more than others, or, god-forbid, that we should abolish it. They are pure trash applying to themselves a label that never fit to them.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1489321799 116311254,116323422,2017-03-12 12:31:39,">Dad went to WV University in the 80's and he was in training for the Army Rangers >Communist party was big on campus >Communists had tables with their propaganda set up in the student center >Him and his friends knocked the tables over, sending all their papers flying, knocked their commie flag down >Campus security saw what happened and just smirked and looked the other way >Campus security was composed of Vietnam Vets who wanted to beat the shit out of commies and couldn't do anything about it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489321899 116311254,116323676,2017-03-12 12:34:29,">>116316752 Good plan. Hear, hear!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489322069 116311254,116323748,2017-03-12 12:35:06,">>116311254 >libertarian >right >believing that a general, abstract freedom exists",,Anonymous,a03.jpg,bA/J1VnuwT29j0dAImXTGA==,US,,1489322106 116311254,116324068,2017-03-12 12:38:20,">>116311254 sup my freedom loving bros",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1489322300 116311254,116324274,2017-03-12 12:40:19,"I'm a Minarchist. I believe the only duty of the State is to protect citizens from crimes such as property (theft/vandalism/etc) and personal crimes (assault/fraud/etc.), protect citizens from foreign invasion, and preserve the citizen's natural rights. Everything else can be ran privately and free market. I do consider myself a Libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489322419 116311254,116324437,2017-03-12 12:42:11,i like capitalism,,Anonymous,,,US,,1489322531 116311254,116324720,2017-03-12 12:45:05,">>116323748 whatver cool guy. just stay off my god damn lawn.",,Anonymous,1487200632601.jpg,RS+MRHvQsIjPGJEAyF9LSg==,US,,1489322705 116311254,116324790,2017-03-12 12:45:49,Post-libertarianism / Neoreaction is the only true libertarianism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1489322749 116311254,116324836,2017-03-12 12:46:15,"You guys should read Murray Rothbard's ""Anatomy Of The State"" if you haven't already. https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf He basically says the State is coercive and a parasite and goes against Natural Law. Good, quick read",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489322775 116311254,116324977,2017-03-12 12:47:39,">>116324790 tl;dr the idea ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1489322859 116311254,116325846,2017-03-12 12:56:43,">>116323269 you really dont know much about them, do you? there are libertarians hardcore enough to bash the civil rights act for impeding on their private property. t. dad is one of those libertarians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489323403 116311254,116326118,2017-03-12 12:59:22,">>116325846 Damn dude, you're dad must be pretty cool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489323562 116311254,116326166,2017-03-12 12:59:50,">>116326118 i mean your. fuck!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489323590 116311254,116326256,2017-03-12 13:00:49,">>116322975 >right and a ""pure"" libertarian would advocate againsts positive rights all together. Including taxpayer-funded police? So you agree that libertarians that oppose publicly funded healthcare and education on grounds of positive vs negative rights but support police on that basis are contradicting themselves?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489323649 116311254,116326273,2017-03-12 13:00:57,">>116325846 because in his hearth your dad knows he was right",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1489323657 116311254,116326390,2017-03-12 13:02:23,Commies deserve a seizure!,,Anonymous,snek.gif,En4w89ZgogsndLKV/ufc1g==,NL,,1489323743 116311254,116326571,2017-03-12 13:04:16,">>116326256 Yes, they are not ""true libertarians"" if they want the state to protect property. they're still cool with me tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489323856 116311254,116327093,2017-03-12 13:09:26,"wtf is right wing about transgender child brothels who take bitcoin and heroin vending machines? Oh you're gonna ""ban"" or ""outlaw"" that? You're not a libertarian. I don't care if you don't call it government, you can call it private police or whatever the fuck. If you use organized force or violence to prevent anyone from doing anything you're a statist. Absolutely no rulers, no rules, no authority, no organization, no borders, no morality allowed or you're a statist authoritarian.",,Anonymous,1470558954992.jpg,7SWMJHZAXZnVuwNL5XXX2Q==,US,,1489324166 116311254,116327437,2017-03-12 13:12:41,">>116327093 alright then I'm an authoritarian Statist and I will crush you under my boot if you try and take from me.",,Anonymous,McGas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1489324361 116311254,116327655,2017-03-12 13:14:40,">>116327093 not on my private land now fuck off",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1489324480 116311254,116328288,2017-03-12 13:20:11,">>116326256 They might think that the minimum level of coercion for peaceful existence is to force a monopoly of violence. Doesn't make them contradict themselves if you look at libertarianism as that.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1489324811 116311254,116328357,2017-03-12 13:20:42,">>116327093 children can't consent. fuck off faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489324842 116311254,116328740,2017-03-12 13:24:23,">>116328288 >the minimum level of coercion for peaceful existence is to force a monopoly of violence. So enough civil unrest can make the welfare state morally justified?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489325063 116311254,116329568,2017-03-12 13:32:09,bump.,,Anonymous,Natsoc_likes_to_be_pegged.png,mZfB7O9H1mG5HqUJqqr9rA==,US,,1489325529 116311254,116330820,2017-03-12 13:43:40,">>116328288 Also, can't you have a legally granted monopoly of violence (or license of violence) but not force people to pay for the service, e.g. voluntary posses and militias?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489326220 116311254,116331927,2017-03-12 13:53:31,"LMAO at you losers, better start building me some roads while I live off of your tax money wageslaves",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489326811 116328152,116328152,2017-03-12 13:19:00,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads Libertarian/pol Discord: https://discord.gg/TvUctU9",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Libertarian pol.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1489324740 116328152,116328235,2017-03-12 13:19:37,,,Anonymous,AnCap.png,cUAAwat8jfX4Cvj8OAsyWQ==,US,,1489324777 116328152,116328310,2017-03-12 13:20:23,,,Anonymous,Obama Workout.png,KI3VyrpVcad6l44bW1vYgQ==,US,,1489324823 116328152,116328387,2017-03-12 13:20:59,">>116328152 Right-libertarianism does not exist. It's in the blue quadrant under a different label.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489324859 116328152,116328574,2017-03-12 13:22:44,">>116328387 explain",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1489324964 116328152,116328986,2017-03-12 13:26:51,,,Anonymous,1486853650632.jpg,vhGSexPPqfIRpuOBx4pd0A==,US,,1489325211 116328152,116329049,2017-03-12 13:27:26,,,Anonymous,1488851412848.jpg,JyPW0Jo32hbIAUhzhrFWKQ==,US,,1489325246 116328152,116329332,2017-03-12 13:29:56,Freedom rally April 15th Berkekley,,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-03-11-10-28-49.png,iqWfUOOFmXJ3e1GUrRHG7w==,US,,1489325396 116328152,116329428,2017-03-12 13:30:50,,,Anonymous,1488755053429.png,3L2HjzZJQoQ+o8SNGGtVMg==,US,,1489325450 116328152,116329685,2017-03-12 13:33:09,>>116328152,,Anonymous,Lolbertaria6.jpg,lnOa3Xf8uLadZmX4V8MR2A==,US,,1489325589 116328152,116329807,2017-03-12 13:34:13,">>116328152 Bump",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1489325653 116328152,116329817,2017-03-12 13:34:20,>unironic ancaps,,Anonymous,1479387792158.jpg,nBxrI1f0EAvRcwMYe4MDZA==,US,,1489325660 116385428,116385428,2017-03-12 21:47:23,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,15134341.jpg,FM07lrsEVLpMLlwzfaqP6w==,GB,,1489355243 116385428,116385457,2017-03-12 21:47:40,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489355260 116385428,116385533,2017-03-12 21:48:22,,,Anonymous,1485373364464.jpg,+Je0ki1u6tw4R0NQawgRWA==,GB,,1489355302 116385428,116385572,2017-03-12 21:48:46,Shadilay,,Anonymous,people.png,cO3uTr9qgeiA+5aJT7Y+lQ==,US,,1489355326 116385428,116385786,2017-03-12 21:51:00,Authoritarianism> Libertarianism,,Anonymous,,,US,,1489355460 116385428,116385861,2017-03-12 21:51:47,">>116385786 Found the cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489355507 116385428,116386153,2017-03-12 21:54:43,">>116385786 Why do you hate freedom lad?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489355683 116385428,116386175,2017-03-12 21:54:58,,,Anonymous,IMG_2610.jpg,n6qA5stRL4Lctnbvlbgq4g==,US,,1489355698 116385428,116386201,2017-03-12 21:55:17,">>116385861 libertarianism > communism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489355717 116385428,116386266,2017-03-12 21:55:52,">>116386153 I hate closet liberals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489355752 116385428,116386555,2017-03-12 21:58:48,">>116386201 >>116386266 I am confuse",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489355928 116385428,116386639,2017-03-12 21:59:43,">>116385572 Ron Paul belongs in based tier imo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489355983 116385428,116386670,2017-03-12 22:00:06,">>116386555 do you need me to spell it out? what exactly are you confused about?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489356006 116385428,116386821,2017-03-12 22:01:48,,,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1489356108 116385428,116386928,2017-03-12 22:03:03,,,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1489356183 116385428,116386999,2017-03-12 22:03:48,,,Anonymous,Generals.png,CX37xCo29T6LONyxnDyKZw==,US,,1489356228 116385428,116387042,2017-03-12 22:04:14,It's too bad most people on /pol/ are to busy responding to shills op,,Anonymous,,,US,,1489356254 116385428,116387429,2017-03-12 22:08:20,">>116387042 libertarians are shills >>116386639 ron ""le gubmint is evul"" paul",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1489356500 116385428,116387553,2017-03-12 22:09:22,">>116387429 Fuck off roadcuck.",,Anonymous,NAP.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1489356562 116385428,116387783,2017-03-12 22:11:51,">>116386266 Let us read some literature straight from the mouth of a ""closet liberal""",,Anonymous,hhh.jpg,xj3PhDDwmtDsrmqAXlxbow==,AU,,1489356711 116385428,116388408,2017-03-12 22:18:25,>>116387783,,Anonymous,1488141732200.png,vodplgKDngqNlpNR/Uj59A==,US,,1489357105 116385428,116389290,2017-03-12 22:27:59,">>116386266 >closet liberal Where do you hear us talking about how much we love to succ off the welfare state?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489357679 116385428,116389881,2017-03-12 22:34:48,Have a last bump before bed op,,Anonymous,,,US,,1489358088 116571031,116571031,2017-03-14 06:21:04,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ&t=177s So /pol/ what are you doing to secure a free and prosperous future for yourself?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - CAN'T STOP THE HOPPE EDITION,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1489472464 116571031,116571072,2017-03-14 06:21:39,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1489472499 116571031,116571094,2017-03-14 06:22:01,,,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(2).png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1489472521 116571031,116571431,2017-03-14 06:26:41,What's up freedom bro.,,Anonymous,QsZPVq1.png,froj00cCZ8s9TBn5T/GolQ==,US,,1489472801 116571031,116571806,2017-03-14 06:31:36,,,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1489473096 116571031,116571822,2017-03-14 06:31:54,ancaps btfo,,Anonymous,rothbard.png,GIPFTlL7KfbSg4lXdfc/qQ==,FI,,1489473114 116571031,116571946,2017-03-14 06:33:43,">>116571822 This guy? I don't think so.",,Anonymous,BryanCaplan.jpg,Yl78k2FnpOMCJK0mkd6AYg==,US,,1489473223 116571031,116572021,2017-03-14 06:34:53,">>116571946 yep. http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/whyaust.htm",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1489473293 116571031,116572111,2017-03-14 06:36:20,"heil snek, memelord of the ancap for the serpant is our dna god is math, the division of all infinites >>116571942 >>116568666 → >>SEEK THE GOSPEL OF PHILIP >>KNOW THE FIRE OF GNOSIS AND THE SONG OF SYNCHRONICITY THAT THE (((PHARISEE))) HAVE TAKEN FROM YOU. >>OBEY = OYVEY >>SHEKKELS=SHACKLES >>SATURN=/=JUPITER >>THE MORNING STAR IS NOT THE EVENING STAR >>HOLOCAUST = HOLOGRAM CAST= HOLOGRAPHIC GRAMMATON SPELL= FAKE GOD. >>SHATTER THE DEMIURG! >>KNOW THE SAYINGS OF CHRIST THAT PUT HIM TO LANCE >>TAKE THE NAZIRITE OATH AS CHRIST SAMSON AND HITLER BEFORE YOU AND WE CAN SAVE THE WEST >>WE MUST CONQUER THE TALMUD WITH FIRE OF CHRIST AND SET THIS WORLD FREE",,YESHUA OF NAZIRITE,yeshu.jpg,vtm8K/EOzU6WACqZ6gb2VA==,US,,1489473380 116571031,116572213,2017-03-14 06:37:46,weep before the digits antiskubs,,YESHUA OF NAZIRITE,snek.gif,En4w89ZgogsndLKV/ufc1g==,US,,1489473466 116571031,116572226,2017-03-14 06:37:58,,,Anonymous,db8.jpg,XL+bpWJHn+FAgh0fX6S4pA==,US,,1489473478 116571031,116572264,2017-03-14 06:38:41,">>116571946 This guy praises rothbard and criticizes him just for talking philosophy. either way I dont care what an open borders, pacifist, cuck says about it.",,Anonymous,1487041975527.jpg,WOXJhZNneX564LJE5Tn+Mg==,US,,1489473521 116571031,116572320,2017-03-14 06:39:25,>ONLY FOR ALPHAS.,,Anonymous,8a357a63c4a78040396ac4776ed9427f6da111c052d5cd89e110f3941216c47d_1.jpg,cOVEgR1MI0Ye1M/Jt4HG0Q==,BR,,1489473565 116571031,116572361,2017-03-14 06:39:55,,,Anonymous,9f55f7463d2e2be0faa296886d2b1459dc868e1c55202947efc86ea8603dc622_1.jpg,ACHSYkWNfIxU1jWwGRaunw==,BR,,1489473595 116571031,116572384,2017-03-14 06:40:15,,,Anonymous,25c819662df7bb1f0edb158e8eb8c3544fd22b4e8274ea67e724f6237e461a17_1.jpg,p8W5l72E9WB4ZSrm3eXSgg==,BR,,1489473615 116571031,116572388,2017-03-14 06:40:19,Is Classical Liberalism by Charles Siegel a good read?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489473619 116571031,116572423,2017-03-14 06:40:49,,,Anonymous,85b33e1d5147e1c1e5aecebe37c46f2b037e871bb676bdafc9aeb21f6501e3db_1.jpg,xwtufaShvubtNCzCVjbhMQ==,BR,,1489473649 116571031,116572456,2017-03-14 06:41:17,,,Anonymous,217d46d325088201a520349da9c0ae7441a50ccfe129a445534a8193772e1e78_1.jpg,7A/WArlZM939gtYrQsdeKA==,BR,,1489473677 116571031,116572505,2017-03-14 06:41:54,>>116572388,,Anonymous,1488134919437s.jpg,q8MYJ9ZPB8LO90U3WfQUXA==,BR,,1489473714 116571031,116572526,2017-03-14 06:42:13,>>116571072,,Anonymous,1488842512642.png,7bquruTPrH1PEyBgLSiO0Q==,US,,1489473733 116571031,116572531,2017-03-14 06:42:16,,,Anonymous,742529971d4ed3964f7b736f951b35eb0c2cfc122759e08bd1c8b693277065d0_1.jpg,mLBpnsEJXyWjUbgwjfRdyQ==,BR,,1489473736 116571031,116572542,2017-03-14 06:42:24,">>116572456 see >>116571822",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1489473744 116571031,116572597,2017-03-14 06:43:11,">>116572505 aww you got the thumbnail. here take the full size.",,Anonymous,AnarcoCanadianism.png,PT7LTE19cU1x/SSnjlrcJA==,US,,1489473791 116571031,116572608,2017-03-14 06:43:18,">>116572505 Thank you Brazil.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1489473798 116571031,116572800,2017-03-14 06:46:02,">>116572542 NIgga are you still shilling that beta cuck to try and convert us? follow his teachings and turn the other cheek you faggot.",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1489473962 116571031,116572825,2017-03-14 06:46:23,>>116572542,,Anonymous,2063347ed063b560e17eba9da736e3aead7fc47ea83332a2291fdc51c202f075_1.jpg,g0YGAJnIty1j2MX8sQAVsw==,BR,,1489473983 116571031,116572872,2017-03-14 06:47:15,">>116572800 >>116572825 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1489474035 116571031,116572877,2017-03-14 06:47:18,">Remember, he is one of us.",,Anonymous,1489339646455.jpg,JyPW0Jo32hbIAUhzhrFWKQ==,BR,,1489474038 116571031,116572913,2017-03-14 06:47:50,,,Anonymous,1489174600421.png,ShOcILGjhpkxN+OACiJmBg==,BR,,1489474070 116571031,116572970,2017-03-14 06:48:39,,,Anonymous,d0a517afbd5ae6ee0728f8174c1cbe2c41b499cf5cfde0de475eab431b8dee42_1.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,BR,,1489474119 116571031,116573054,2017-03-14 06:49:44,>>116572111,,Anonymous,pho.gif,aI9pzagfmUmO8RuapmmL4g==,US,,1489474184 116571031,116573067,2017-03-14 06:50:04,">>116572872 The time for arguments has past.",,Anonymous,GET OUT.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1489474204 116571031,116573114,2017-03-14 06:50:52,,,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,PXA+Y4okZDO9UvRSDQx8IQ==,BR,,1489474252 116571031,116573148,2017-03-14 06:51:27,,,Anonymous,McFuturism2.png,Woe9EGckUvf03ypsh0ClkQ==,BR,,1489474287 116571031,116573149,2017-03-14 06:51:29,">>116572111 HEIL SNEK",,Anonymous,SNEK.jpg,a772VlJh9qC52idyjACjEw==,US,,1489474289 116571031,116573152,2017-03-14 06:51:31,">>116573067 because you're incapable of arguments and don't even understand your own ideology?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1489474291 116571031,116573209,2017-03-14 06:52:21,,,Anonymous,1487281116687.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,BR,,1489474341 116571031,116573259,2017-03-14 06:53:06,"Were this ""Hoppe physical removal"" meme come from?Is something Hoppe said about a topic of discussion?I've never read him sorry (I've already put democracy the god that failed on my list)",,Anonymous,1488563487278.jpg,50JI/wLGBGDWlwQvVL/qSQ==,IT,,1489474386 116571031,116573417,2017-03-14 06:55:19,POST YFW THERE IS NO LIBERTARIAN COUNTRY IN THE WORLD,,Anonymous,ccd.png,j9TNz/AHeipIyPPZLtMF+Q==,US,,1489474519 116571031,116573486,2017-03-14 06:56:33,">>116573259 In a covenant...among proprietor and community tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property, no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists, not even to unlimited speech on one’s own tenant-property. One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very covenant of preserving and protecting private property, such as democracy and communism. There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from society. this is the quote ""physical removal"" meme comes from in Democracy: the god that failed.",,Anonymous,1486919238234.jpg,9gyE1VA8W22fyIFoaV+LHw==,US,,1489474593 116571031,116573546,2017-03-14 06:57:36,">>116573417 >National Socialist >COUNTRY IN THE WORLD Hahahahahahhaha",,Anonymous,onlyfortruealphas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,BR,,1489474656 116571031,116573549,2017-03-14 06:57:38,">>116573417 Wasn't the U.S. in the beginning a sort of miniarchist type of country?Was bad back then?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1489474658 116571031,116573556,2017-03-14 06:57:42,">>116573152 I disagree with that faggot. now make your own argument or stop acting like a fag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489474662 116571031,116573615,2017-03-14 06:58:36,">>116573417 >gibsmedats 4 ypipo",,Anonymous,1489083374742.jpg,gfYDVGzWkaILXGUXDQcyJA==,US,,1489474716 116571031,116573659,2017-03-14 06:59:11,">>116573417 enjoy this consenting bump though",,Anonymous,hitlerPepe.jpg,ybushew69IPmLTtjtUkzyg==,US,,1489474751 116571031,116573698,2017-03-14 06:59:46,">>116573556 You disagree based on what?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1489474786 116571031,116573756,2017-03-14 07:00:40,,,Anonymous,1486768605778.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,NL,,1489474840 116571031,116573799,2017-03-14 07:01:12,">>116573549 I don't know, I remember two """"""rebellions"""""" where the rebels pussied out. One was due to taxes and another was due to tariffs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489474872 116571031,116573814,2017-03-14 07:01:29,">>116573486 I see...thats very interesting, thanks!",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1489474889 116571031,116573904,2017-03-14 07:02:50,,,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,kiyb9JLRMDKMdJSJxEgV3w==,NL,,1489474970 116571031,116573918,2017-03-14 07:03:01,">>116573615 >civic nationalist I'm sure those mexicans are just as sympathetic to libertarian ideals as white spoiler: We are both fucked",,Anonymous,smub.jpg,/4JYVPrfOhlAIcaJKY1pWg==,US,,1489474981 116571031,116574192,2017-03-14 07:07:04,">>116573799 I'm not an expert in U.S. history (well lets say in history in general) I mean when you kicked the eternal anglos out, wasnt the ""new"" country some sort of miniarchist one?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1489475224 116571031,116574460,2017-03-14 07:11:05,">>116571031 Alright... crazy suggestion here, but what of the idea of a temporary alliance with the disillusioned wannabe commie Berniebros to take down the current fascist establishment?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489475465 116571031,116574766,2017-03-14 07:15:32,">>116574460 I'd rather ally with commies in denial than open commies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489475732 116571031,116574795,2017-03-14 07:15:51,,,Anonymous,1489348783642.jpg,SVoN1hZx2iUEv8o6YCLh4A==,BR,,1489475751 116571031,116575558,2017-03-14 07:26:11,Bump,,Anonymous,Reds_Get_Out.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,US,,1489476371 116571031,116576550,2017-03-14 07:38:48,,,Anonymous,1489338000443.png,MGhH0iX4u9f1r6kKzlIg0Q==,BR,,1489477128 116571031,116576561,2017-03-14 07:38:55,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1488194041733.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,US,,1489477135 116571031,116576964,2017-03-14 07:44:27,">>116576561 whomst is this",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489477467 116571031,116577171,2017-03-14 07:47:27,">>116571031 I want guns. Now!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489477647 116571031,116577291,2017-03-14 07:49:03,">>116576964 I dunno >>116577171 Are you guys allowed any freedom securing devices?",,Anonymous,1ad6259918981df27fe93a872755cf650a7ced3c897e22695f3369892e0fc1f2_1.jpg,971l7sFnSZBYwT9RmwkNDQ==,US,,1489477743 116571031,116579244,2017-03-14 08:12:56,Bump where are all my 13 colonies? Shoveling snow?,,Anonymous,15420986_10100459173461539_5358652656821799746_n.jpg,gjm5N12fS0kVmkLiORWcKw==,US,,1489479176 116571031,116581144,2017-03-14 08:35:27,">>116574192 The frontier was. Usually some local sheriff provided law and order but there were no feds and people pretty much did what they wanted. About as close as we got to an ancap society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489480527 116571031,116581493,2017-03-14 08:40:13,">>116576550 There are people that have responded to me like this. There is a narrow spectrum of thought that ranges from communist to fascist and you are one or the other never mind that these ideologies are practically neighbors. I don't know how anyone can make the mental leap from Ancap to fascist as if they are closely related. It's a pretty good indicator you're speaking with a Normie or a motion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489480813 116571031,116581602,2017-03-14 08:41:42,">>116573615 >civic nationalism retard.",,Anonymous,John Jay.jpg,F9OClbaZzyIIjZEbtQzbeg==,BE,,1489480902 116571031,116581703,2017-03-14 08:42:59,">>116573799 whiskey rebellion was justified though. founding fathers became the autocratic british they despized",,Anonymous,Plough Jogger.jpg,lnqMyyTJ90tfZIjXEZXgmg==,BE,,1489480979 116571031,116582417,2017-03-14 08:52:10,">>116577291 We have to go through loads of paperwork to even get one we have to store in a shooting club. The elites really made sure we can't fight back.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489481530 116571031,116582652,2017-03-14 08:54:48,"At what point did you guys start to turn to libertarian beliefs? I'm also not saying it started from humble beginnings. For myself it was when I learned of how the fed works and handled the recession and continues to hide the shit economy that exists today. It's fucking crazy the games they play. That Peter Schiff video of him going around the wall street protests blew my mind and I'll never forget being changed by the arguments made. Then it was watching congress and committees within where the government officials had NO accountability and were able to fuck around in ways that would get any privately employed individual fired within a heartbeat. Then Sowell hit me like a truck when I first started to watch his lectures and how the beliefs advocating lack of government are because humanity is inherently flawed and will play to greed. Socialism is so consistent in failure i'm amazed I ever thought it to be a good idea in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489481688 116571031,116584276,2017-03-14 09:15:14,">>116582652 From a young age I had a simple philosophy of ""don't kill, don't steal. But defend yourself if someone tries to kill or steal from you"" I don't know what put that thought in me, but I stand by it today as a gold standard of morality. I think the economics, and politics are based on that stance and just happen to make practical sense as many others regardless of politics have similar morals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489482914 116571031,116584744,2017-03-14 09:20:55,">>116582652 I just really hate commies",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489483255 116571031,116585031,2017-03-14 09:24:27,">>116582652 I live in a state with 7 parliaments for a population the size of NYC. There is no civil sovereignty, the state owns me, they tax the average income-earning Belgian 55% of all his/her property, I do not posses the self-determination I desire. I am seeing first hand what big government is capable of destroying.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1489483467 116571031,116585058,2017-03-14 09:24:46,">>116584744 That too. They are the greatest threat to freedom. With their awful hippy music and wanting their ""fair share"" of find that I earned.",,Anonymous,FAHR.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,US,,1489483486 116571031,116585356,2017-03-14 09:28:31,">>116585058 Fair share of *gibs >>116585031 I feel for all you guys. I would probably snap if I was in a zog state like you guys. Is there any libertarian presence in your socialist shitholes?",,Anonymous,1488817818760_0.png,6cJYg646kls/wd/ZgvuFHQ==,US,,1489483711 116571031,116585578,2017-03-14 09:30:57,"Good morning /lrg/ What are your current capitalist systems in your life? How are you looking to expand? What's your endgame? I'm currently investing in my education, switching my field of work from web development to chemistry. All of my economic systems are built around sustaining my means while eating cruft for education - it's a bit of a hit economically but I didn't have the luxury of savings. I'll be running pretty lean for the next five years or so I would imagine but the payoff will be a degree in organic chemistry. This should pay off in spades given the economy of research in the US right now. My endgame will be to work in research and get published. I see leftists taking over our education system and I fear a world where every researcher and intellectual is a Marxist. My only concern for my plan is, it seems very ""level 1"" for me to be trading my time for money so directly... I wonder if I can't figure out some indirect income through investments or the development and sale of a product.",,Anonymous,1488768119857.png,kLga+pkBDFu5IAV9LnEAPA==,US,,1489483857 116571031,116585941,2017-03-14 09:34:45,">>116585578 I'm just saving for a farm a business and lots of guns. So far it seems like in going to have it all in a few years.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489484085 116571031,116586011,2017-03-14 09:35:42,">>116571031 I'm tired of those nazis faggots. why we cann't kill them? NAP doesn't apply to commies.",,Anonymous,pepe 1.png,jHIsa8Z/LnEFE65I17bddQ==,CL,,1489484142 116571031,116586595,2017-03-14 09:42:26,">>116585941 It's a good life, I've been wanting to pick up a CETME for a while now, they're running in good condition for 700-800 on armslist. Just trying to save my shekels since I had to take out a loan for school. If I hit a major windfall the first thing I'm doing is buying a new rifle and heading to the range for a weekend.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489484546 116571031,116586650,2017-03-14 09:42:53,">>116586011 We can kill em sure.",,Anonymous,ron_paul_rifle.png,kVZ3g/KYLdtNYGtV29bL0g==,US,,1489484573 116571031,116586818,2017-03-14 09:44:39,Can someone explain to me the difference between libertarianism and conservatism other than the fact that libertarians want a smaller government.,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1489484679 116571031,116587080,2017-03-14 09:47:41,">>116572320 But there are no rulers, meaning there are no laws, meaning there are no property rules. The factory isn't his. Anyone can take it and it would not be illegal. Someone could burn it down without legal consequence. Anarchists are dumb",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489484861 116571031,116587201,2017-03-14 09:49:01,">>116586818 That's a pretty major difference desu",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489484941 116571031,116587330,2017-03-14 09:50:24,">>116573067 But it isn't YOUR property. No one owns it. There are no laws in the anarchist utopia.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489485024 116571031,116587439,2017-03-14 09:51:35,"What's up guys? I still haven't got started on the next Hoppewave video yet, but I'll keep you posted when I do :3 Heil Hoppe!",,Anonymous,30 minutes into private covenant community and he gives you this look.png,1xr+XN/oTMN3FiOlX5/upA==,PT,,1489485095 116571031,116587499,2017-03-14 09:52:11,">>116582652 Same with the Occupy protests. Then I watched some Milton which cemented my views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4 >>116586818 Conservatism includes some moral policing through the state and religion in order to preserve the social fabric. Like with marriage for example. As a libertarian I'd say you can make contracts (marriage included) however you wish and that government fucked up marriage in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1489485131 116571031,116587505,2017-03-14 09:52:14,">>116581602 >still wanting to be ethnic after the btfoing of jontron",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489485134 116571031,116587529,2017-03-14 09:52:28,">>116587080 You're making two mistakes: firstly, you're ignore the individual's sovereign right to property. That factory is his by virtue of having constructed and financed the factory. Secondly, you're ignoring the individual's sovereign right to nonaggression. If someone came to take the factory from him, he's allowed to defend himself from his aggressors. Also you're sort of implying that laws define morals, which is incorrect. Laws define social control.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489485148 116571031,116587586,2017-03-14 09:53:00,">>116586818 >>116587201 It's hard to compare when both (and especially conservatism) are umbrella terms. A lot of semantics can be argued but basically something like a neoconservative would never fly with a libertarian. Libertarian can be watered down to what is really a serious focus on getting government the fuck out and hence is seen as more right wing then most typical conservative views but I speak for the US.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489485180 116571031,116587623,2017-03-14 09:53:19,">>116586818 America was founded on some fairly libertarian ideas. Therefore American conservatives are libertarian leaning. I can't say anything about conservatives across the pond.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489485199 116571031,116587724,2017-03-14 09:54:23,">>116587439 Wassap portubro.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489485263 116571031,116587751,2017-03-14 09:54:38,">>116571031 Hippity hoppity get off my property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489485278 116571031,116588085,2017-03-14 09:58:38,">>116587439 You are the pulsating heart of this general, portubro. Never stop being amazing.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489485518 116571031,116588326,2017-03-14 10:01:24,">>116587724 Hello senpai! >>116588085 Aww, thanks. Have a Hoppe Deutschbro",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1489485684 116571031,116589640,2017-03-14 10:15:33,">>116588326 You have that quote about loser libertarians? I wanna save it for redditors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489486533 116571031,116590158,2017-03-14 10:21:21,,,Anonymous,1489105089907.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,US,,1489486881 116571031,116590175,2017-03-14 10:21:31,">>116587623 Well, here in Germany conservatives (and even (((libertarians)))) all are in favor of public healthcare, heavy market regulations and bueraucracy in general. Our libertarians are nothing more than Aleppo Johnson tier.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489486891 116571031,116590241,2017-03-14 10:22:03,">>116589640 Here ya go.",,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1489486923 116571031,116590906,2017-03-14 10:28:34,">>116590241 Thanks >>116588085 I'm pretty sure you're a staple poster of this thread too. I just get lost in the other American posters. I'd never namefag tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489487314 116571031,116591014,2017-03-14 10:29:30,">>116571072 >>116571094 Where do i find the time to read this?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489487370 116571031,116591139,2017-03-14 10:30:42,">>116590175 That's fucked. I guess in Europe is considered traditional to get fucked by socialists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489487442 116571031,116591351,2017-03-14 10:32:44,">>116591014 I've been listening to rothbard on audio at work. Many of the links on mises have audio versions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489487564 116571031,116591716,2017-03-14 10:36:18,A person has to reasons to be an ancap. Either he is jewish or a paedophile (or both),,Anonymous,1479533986183.jpg,0D7lhE2o5kfdB9gCX8SiRA==,NL,,1489487778 116571031,116591833,2017-03-14 10:37:16,">>116591351 I don't like the audios, doesn't give me time to reflect on what i'm reading etc >>116590241 Where do you get guns to protect your property in Portugal?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489487836 116571031,116592069,2017-03-14 10:39:49,">>116590906 Yeah, I often post here, too. This is a good place to discuss with liked mind people, something I can't really enjoy irl, since everything deviating from the norm is labeled a nazi, even if we are the exact opposite. And yeah, I wouldn't namefag aswell, the annonymity here is something I deeply appreciate. >>116591139 Yeah, people see it as deeply rooted in our politics to defend public healthcare. It is non negotiable. You burgers might have some problems, but at the end of the day you live way more free lifes than we europoors, despite what nonsense your run off the mill lefty claims.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489487989 116571031,116592293,2017-03-14 10:42:03,">>116586011 bait them into destroying your property, and lay down a hail of self defence",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1489488123 116571031,116592556,2017-03-14 10:44:52,">>116591833 Yeah with the audio I often find myself pausing and replaying bits because that shit makes me wanna explore the ideas. PDFs are kinda annoying to read off screen. After I finish what I'm listening to now imma buy some solid copies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489488292 116571031,116593300,2017-03-14 10:52:25,">>116591139 Can confirm: in some italian cities the sum of taxes (governative/central state taxes+regional taxes+local taxes) is more than 60% (governative taxes alone are at 43%). Oh of course majority of time nothing ""public"" works so you end up paying for it from privates.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1489488745 116571031,116593667,2017-03-14 10:56:36,">>116592069 Yeah I appreciate my country when I talk to you guys in this thread. There will be no civil war. The left has already lost. I don't see lefties escalating things any further. We'll have continued protest that will accomplish very little. Regular citizens in my blue state talk about all kinds of politically incorrect shit. Im open about my politics as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489488996 116571031,116595567,2017-03-14 11:15:02,">>116593667 Yeah. We're already winning, let's just keep winning. Every day I wake up and think to myself ""today I'm going to get done what needs to get done"" and I think that's more powerful than complaining about leftists on the internet (as fun as it can be).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489490102 116571031,116597281,2017-03-14 11:31:28,Bump.,,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1489491088 116571031,116598280,2017-03-14 11:40:44,Are you guys pro refugee and immigration?,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489491644 116571031,116599092,2017-03-14 11:48:53,Minarchism is the way to go.,,Anonymous,milton-friedman-485239.jpg,ourHUw3YuxHAAzTevZkG6w==,BG,,1489492133 116571031,116599716,2017-03-14 11:54:49,">>116598280 No rapefugies allowed in my covenant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489492489 116571031,116599823,2017-03-14 11:55:55,">>116599092 >Military industrial complex in America wrecking shit left and right in order to profit from taxpayers doing more damage than any gang in history, creating more enemies in process and destabilizing entire regions. I'd rather trust CEOs of insurance companies with nukes than Putin or Hillary.",,Anonymous,War is a racket.jpg,CI3RV6lRDTJv9LRbjd0oJQ==,SI,,1489492555 116571031,116600343,2017-03-14 12:01:09,,,Anonymous,d14.png,7DRwYnrx0WcVL4fg5ATGaw==,PT,,1489492869 116571031,116600447,2017-03-14 12:02:08,>>116576964,,Anonymous,would_tread.png,Wn3qPwZ1llzuwwvsIDp+HA==,ES,,1489492928 116571031,116600714,2017-03-14 12:04:49,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc,,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,US,,1489493089 116571031,116600771,2017-03-14 12:05:23,">>116599716 But what about immigration?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1489493123 116571031,116601119,2017-03-14 12:08:51,">>116600771 Only if I like you on my property. As far as the state should be walled off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489493331 116571031,116601523,2017-03-14 12:12:38,">>116593300 Italian that moved to Romania here. There's 0 services here, so no difference from Italy. But am now paying 1% in tax (was paying 43% + 33% social security in Italy).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489493558 116571031,116601820,2017-03-14 12:15:25,">>116598280 I am against borders. However: only as long as welfare is not a thing. The free movement of people works just fine if there's no economic incentive for them to move without doing shit in the new country.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489493725 116812579,116812579,2017-03-15 17:52:36,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ&t=177s So /pol/ what are you doing to secure a free and prosperous future for yourself?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1489059512775.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,GR,,1489600356 116812579,116812676,2017-03-15 17:53:10,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,1489350652628.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,GR,,1489600390 116812579,116812742,2017-03-15 17:53:30,,,Anonymous,1489008765390.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,GR,,1489600410 116812579,116813031,2017-03-15 17:55:06,">>116812579 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAW4Ymxox-4",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1489600506 116812579,116814368,2017-03-15 18:02:45,"Why are so many of our fellow Libertarians pro-open borders and pro-multiculturalism and pro-multiethnicity? They seem indistinguishable from Leftists to me, especially the Reddit Libertarians. They object when I advocate for an ethnically homogenous Ireland where the citizens have maximum individual and economic freedoms. Why is that?",,Anonymous,Don't tread.png,TNf4XA8LJGyt8QZ5IGw2Kw==,IE,,1489600965 116812579,116815582,2017-03-15 18:09:41,">>116814368 They're leftist libertarians.",,Anonymous,1488975285379.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GR,,1489601381 116812579,116817255,2017-03-15 18:18:17,bump,,Anonymous,1480469289972.jpg,y1BQaSFiKg8AOCG7e2jFxw==,GR,,1489601897 116812579,116818163,2017-03-15 18:23:22,">>116812579 Daily reminder that Hoppe is the final stage of red pill.",,Anonymous,1488062480159.jpg,3xrZIHDZJRqX5qPJMCOjPA==,DE,,1489602202 116812579,116818883,2017-03-15 18:27:20,Socialism is a pyramid scheme.,,Anonymous,mIk-dyv_ZRAbSW03qdK_bG9OKXbQjTxOXujPXthOO30.jpg,j1NcPTcoc2AIObanPqbBGg==,US,,1489602440 116812579,116819564,2017-03-15 18:31:08,">>116814368 >>116815582 Views on race do not dictate political wing even though pol is mostly a race centered board.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1489602668 116812579,116821027,2017-03-15 18:38:46,,,Anonymous,aussie snek.png,r8bDNW81yvzVQoyyIewyTg==,GR,,1489603126 116812579,116821685,2017-03-15 18:42:22,">>116818883 No shit. They all collapse or go back to capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489603342 116812579,116823337,2017-03-15 18:51:06,,,Anonymous,Statists.png,SXyaDeEVbumUmE3/8QTKzw==,US,,1489603866 116812579,116825844,2017-03-15 19:04:31,"Quick rundown on why Hoppe Libertarianism is different from ""muh weed"" no borders, socially progressive, Austin Peterson Libertarianism?",,Anonymous,tumblr_nwbyr2imNJ1u9s052o1_1280.jpg,I82GzpjxsXqTCvNo2TbMRQ==,GB,,1489604671 116812579,116827014,2017-03-15 19:10:35,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_Turk.jpg,fWM8SeS2F0O56M5Oj6qjnw==,DE,,1489605035 116812579,116827232,2017-03-15 19:11:47,>>116827014,,Anonymous,Hoppe_Turkish_wife.jpg,sFbAX4PAa7hRFWIefyr+sw==,DE,,1489605107 116812579,116827339,2017-03-15 19:12:19,>>116827232,,Anonymous,Gulcin-Hoppe.jpg,ooe81NwAPCYRpxFsMFvccw==,DE,,1489605139 116812579,116827415,2017-03-15 19:12:42,>>116812579,,Anonymous,1471065440088.jpg,sVQdKcM15b58YgHIoF+mhQ==,GB,,1489605162 116812579,116828096,2017-03-15 19:16:26,Abolish all taxes!,,Anonymous,1439341038872.jpg,HsM9zDJiD615MpIHZCqnbQ==,CA,,1489605386 116812579,116828820,2017-03-15 19:20:34,">>116825844 Gay marriage is retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489605634 116812579,116829717,2017-03-15 19:25:40,How do you handle the argument about the poor people in Africa and Asia that work in sweashops that we appearantly are obliged to help? I can do the economical reasoning for why sweatshops are better than them being on their own. But is there a way to explain why they shouldn't magically be given loads of money and non-sweatshop work opportunities without having to go in and debunk positive rights/freedoms?,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489605940 116812579,116829917,2017-03-15 19:26:48,">>116829717 To clarify. I could explain it to a libertarian or a marxist but not to a social democrat. Any advice?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489606008 116812579,116831084,2017-03-15 19:33:47,">>116829717 >>116829917 Tricky. I suppose you could argue about foreign aid being shit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489606427 116812579,116832124,2017-03-15 19:40:04,">>116829717 >>116829917 >>116831084 The simple fact these jobs pay more than the alternative: Subsistence agriculture",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489606804 116812579,116833806,2017-03-15 19:49:24,">>116832124 Yes of course. That's a good and very simple economical and praxelogical agreement. A trade is done because both parties experience being satisifed. But it's very hard (maybe a lost cause) to try to convince statists that misery being preferable to death is enough of an argument for sweatshops.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489607364 116812579,116835276,2017-03-15 19:57:16,">>116812579 Reporting in for life, liberty, and property. Fuck the EUSSR and may the bureaucrats hang high.",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1489607836 116812579,116835425,2017-03-15 19:58:09,">>116814368 Because they're A) Marxist subverters B) potheads who like falling for memes",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1489607889 116812579,116835724,2017-03-15 19:59:43,">>116825844 Because degenerate junkies devalue property around them, they deserve to be kicked out. Rothbard was also a fan of this, but Hoppe was the one who got really famous because of it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1489607983 116812579,116835856,2017-03-15 20:00:34,">>116833806 It certainly is a lost cause for some, but it is a reality which happened for china, for example. Agriculture, especially in less developed countries is more labour intensive for less monetary gain. They really are better off working a factory than that.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489608034 116812579,116836374,2017-03-15 20:03:35,">>116833806 argument* Sorry I'm getting tired.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1489608215 116812579,116836453,2017-03-15 20:04:01,">>116835856 It's not like sweatshops last forever, either. My understanding is limited, but weren't countries like Japan and South Korea sweatshop-filled countries decades ago? Now they're highly developed. Same thing's happening in China, just on a very uneven scale and under an oppressive regime.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489608241 116812579,116837382,2017-03-15 20:08:52,">>116836453 China is facing Japan's problem already in their case, China's one child policy has caused a demographic crisis in waiting. An overabundance of boys and not nearly enough people compared to their aging population. However by the time it may be an issue, they may have completed the shift to a service-driven industry driven by increasing automation as the west is now. China is transitioning to a more Service driven economy right now.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1489608532 116812579,116838489,2017-03-15 20:14:40,,,Anonymous,1472148744364.png,6VNZGceY1Mb/Z13D9jOWaw==,CA,,1489608880 116812579,116840742,2017-03-15 20:25:34,">>116836453 Japan started to industrialize at the end of 19th century, so it doesn't fit in there alongside South Korea. But yes, the latter profited in the long run from starting out as a source for cheap, exploited labor.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1489609534 116973805,116973805,2017-03-16 18:08:15,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,donttread1.png,xmpNmGawXqOx3THFPgOX1w==,GB,,1489687695 116973805,116973875,2017-03-16 18:08:43,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,5cea1afd798deb4a9932635c1f8fd6416e9f3c97765088fa3fbc3d264c202c0a_1.jpg,TxLeZIQekOT/TTfUgXzGbw==,GB,,1489687723 116973805,116973919,2017-03-16 18:09:03,,,Anonymous,chart.png,V3tfJBplYI0yxzh8aG0j5A==,GB,,1489687743 116973805,116974005,2017-03-16 18:09:40,FIRST FOR RIGHT WING HOPPE DEATH SQUADS,,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1489687780 117329958,117329958,2017-03-19 08:11:50,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DAY OF THE REMOVAL EDITION,Anonymous,libertarian.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,BA,,1489911110 117329958,117329996,2017-03-19 08:12:22,,,Anonymous,,,BA,,1489911142 117329958,117330250,2017-03-19 08:16:04,">>117329958 >libertarian >Right-Wing pick one Libertarianism promises the same goal as communism: the perfection of man. The only difference being, it says it can do it with voluntarism instead of the initiation of violence through the state (as communism does). Both are jewish philosophies designed to subvert western values. Prove me wrong. >you can't",,Anonymous,controlled_opposition.jpg,Atxnk7g744CwcWdTKQxTig==,US,,1489911364 117329958,117330343,2017-03-19 08:17:29,">>117330250 Define western values",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1489911449 117329958,117330781,2017-03-19 08:24:02,">>117330343 >Define western values Anything that threatens the Jews, eg, the family, Christianity, European states, nationalism, respect for authority, hierarchical social order, masculinity, traditional values.",,Anonymous,file.png,12m/P7ca2jVf01iXr0MO9Q==,US,,1489911842 117329958,117331967,2017-03-19 08:42:17,">>117330250 So which ideology retains western values better in a sustainable way? We've all seen how democracy takes over people's opinions and adds a layer of abstraction that lets you vote for things you would never want for yourself. Colectivism leads to degeneracy and virtue signaling while individualism and market leads to seeking prosperity. Even if for whatever odd reason you became a majority after years of marxism hammer hitting you in the head and you were able to recover lost western values, you would do so by generating a guilt that lasts decades. You will have your 4-8 years of increased border control and then 60 of apologizing. The only spaces where we see some sort of freedom from PC is within the confines of your property. Do you know when people act red-pilled? When they decide to purchase property in this neighborhood because it's 100% white. They will justify it in the safety because that's what people do, rationalize their racism and prejudices and turn it into virtue. What we need is to expand upon that concept, let people vote with their feet and wallets instead of with their ballot, this will lead to conservative, western values dominating the market.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1489912937 117329958,117333025,2017-03-19 08:57:32,">>117331967 >So which ideology retains western values better One that doesn't advocate the abdication of social hierarchy and the atomized individual in place of strong social cohesion. Jews promote fractured social orders, either through atomized individualism (lolbertarianism), or the complete suppression of the individual (communism). Any authority that treats the individual and community as an integral and symbiotic whole is detrimental to the jewish survival as an outsider, occupier, and parasite. >democracy Is degenerate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1489913852 117678634,117678634,2017-03-21 18:15:50,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ&t=177s >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/)))",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL OUTTA FUCKING NOWHERE,Anonymous,Flag.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1490120150 117678634,117678662,2017-03-21 18:16:13,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1490120173 117678634,117678721,2017-03-21 18:16:42,,,Anonymous,HOPPE.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1490120202 117678634,117679203,2017-03-21 18:20:51,"Can we discuss the rebbit tier trolling shielding meme of ""No punches to the right"" it's used exclusively by try hards natsocs and (((trs))) to bitch about any critism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490120451 117678634,117679446,2017-03-21 18:22:52,">>117679203 I'd like to add stormfags of old /pol/ didn't pull that nonsense at all. So i dont know where this new breed is coming from",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490120572 117678634,117679527,2017-03-21 18:23:35,">>117679203 Sure, I agree with you. It's total faggotry and they need to be shot down when they try and tread on us. ""Go ahead, punch to the right""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490120615 117678634,117679643,2017-03-21 18:24:32,">>117679446 >pull that nonsense at all. hmmmmm if only some populist president got elected recently, who brought loads of newfags to the new edgy movement",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490120672 117678634,117679739,2017-03-21 18:25:22,">>117678634 I think marxism is utter shit and that we should have as few government regulations as possible, but I do think that there should be some government regulations. Am I allowed here?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490120722 117678634,117679779,2017-03-21 18:25:42,">>117679643 Nah meng I think that shit started before trump.",,Anonymous,1490028884007.png,16lXUiJDa1n0cALqemu3nw==,US,,1490120742 117678634,117679859,2017-03-21 18:26:30,">>117678634 lolberts pls go.",,Anonymous,politically incorrect 2.png,3SXA9J6jzkymERL93niW3g==,US,,1490120790 117678634,117679896,2017-03-21 18:26:49,">>117679739 You're still a roadcuck but you're alright with me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490120809 117678634,117679995,2017-03-21 18:27:53,">>117679859 eat shit, commie.",,Anonymous,Reds_Get_Out.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,US,,1490120873 117678634,117680015,2017-03-21 18:28:03,">>117679527 Thing is most are politically moderate. They think saying nigger and calling out jews some is all what the right is. They acting out at liberal strawman. Not talking about memeing and the dark humor that's stuff fine. It's the people that actually believe stuff like the confederacy and nazi Germany had more in common than not. It's to the point of retardation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490120883 117678634,117680131,2017-03-21 18:28:56,">>117678634 >lolbertardians >right Pick only one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490120936 117678634,117680431,2017-03-21 18:31:41,">>117680131 Well, economically they are. Or do you mean the original lolberts?",,Anonymous,1343628164291.jpg,grQBW5gUtNrNs0tF/IiyUw==,CA,,1490121101 117678634,117680544,2017-03-21 18:32:39,">>117680015 Yeah they are econ moderates. if only they liked niggers they could out of the commie closet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490121159 117678634,117680874,2017-03-21 18:35:32,,,Anonymous,McGas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1490121332 117678634,117680951,2017-03-21 18:36:18,">>117680874 Gassing them doesn't go far enough.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1490121378 117678634,117680953,2017-03-21 18:36:20,">>117680431 >Well, economically they are No they aren't. Laissez faire is a left wing position. Liberalism/lolbertadianism is left wing. Right wing is aristocratic, economically mercantilist/guild-socialist/natsoc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490121380 117678634,117681051,2017-03-21 18:37:15,">>117678634 Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy",,Anonymous,IMG_2928.jpg,yJnhVfZu0GUuSuf8nSnTEg==,US,,1490121435 117678634,117681175,2017-03-21 18:38:09,">>117680953 Don't fucking pawn this off on us, you shit. Right-wingers have been shilling Lazy Fairy since fucking WW2. Keynes, Marx and Smith are left-wing economics.",,Anonymous,1343709614800.jpg,ovLZasf/kqtej7PXVZgnyA==,CA,,1490121489 117678634,117681237,2017-03-21 18:38:46,">>117680431 >>117680131 >>117680953 Reactionary Capitalist is the definition of LIbertarian RIght.",,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1490121526 117678634,117681330,2017-03-21 18:39:37,">>117680953 >who were the Scholastics and why did Rothbard call them proto-austrians You know very little about the development of free market economics both as a utility and natural law principle out side of Adam Smith Wealth of National, correct?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490121577 117678634,117681407,2017-03-21 18:40:14,>>117681051,,Anonymous,how-many-layers-of-economics-are-you-on-my-dude-7919381.png,TocXSY8norWNPJ9VnkgWTw==,US,,1490121614 117678634,117681636,2017-03-21 18:42:25,All I've ever wanted was to live in Anarcho-capitalist societies that adheres to tradional Catholicism and the culture of the old south. Is that really to much to ask /pol/?,,Anonymous,confederate-papist (1).png,eh33ezt0grD8G5B7WCRROA==,US,,1490121745 117678634,117681689,2017-03-21 18:42:52,>>117681407,,Anonymous,af3d0735cc9ad4e97be538c3a811e7d37fe9b68d042c97a29526186a560ef5a5_1.jpg,QBV1s4/B9Mj2Y/mJBhG3Aw==,US,,1490121772 117678634,117681692,2017-03-21 18:42:54,">>117680953 This anon gets it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490121774 117678634,117681746,2017-03-21 18:43:21,">>117681636 Sounds pretty based to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490121801 117678634,117681790,2017-03-21 18:43:45,">>117681636 Probably. Sick flag though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490121825 117678634,117681987,2017-03-21 18:45:31,">>117681689 How the fuck do ifunny watermarks come into circulation?",,Anonymous,1489083374742.jpg,gfYDVGzWkaILXGUXDQcyJA==,US,,1490121931 117678634,117682124,2017-03-21 18:46:43,">>117680953 >Laissez faire is a left wing position. Maybe 200 years ago, hombre, government control of economics is left wing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490122003 117678634,117682216,2017-03-21 18:47:27,>>117681987,,Anonymous,1485566052934.jpg,BU3Nd9nEm4SFH3yiDn9XmA==,CA,,1490122047 117678634,117682959,2017-03-21 18:53:59,">>117682216 true they didn't nationalize many private buisnesses, but they had massive welfare programs such as trhe Nat Soc Peoples Welfare and not to forget heavy restrictions on free trade.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490122439 117678634,117683145,2017-03-21 18:55:41,">>117682216 >Guys the national socialist party wasn't socialist >sure they restricted free trade but they weren't socialists",,Anonymous,nah.gif,aRLZ1nLNtgbpgf9o5ZoBdg==,US,,1490122541 117678634,117683346,2017-03-21 18:57:26,">>117681987 Google.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490122646 117678634,117683394,2017-03-21 18:57:51,">>117683145 >>117682959 >welfare is socialism >restricting free trade is socialism >inb4 taxes are socialism",,Anonymous,1344958816633.jpg,u2WnefTxsDCfDtdgppO4Wg==,CA,,1490122671 117678634,117683395,2017-03-21 18:57:52,">>117683145 exactly, NSDAP was only capitalist by commie ""not real socialism"" standards. Fuck em'.",,Anonymous,1487041975527.jpg,WOXJhZNneX564LJE5Tn+Mg==,US,,1490122672 117678634,117683455,2017-03-21 18:58:30,">>117683145 (((free trade))) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZDitYEk7eA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490122710 117678634,117683612,2017-03-21 18:59:50,">>117683145 False dichotomy",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1490122790 117678634,117683639,2017-03-21 19:00:01,">>117683394 Damn right! Tell him Triple-H!",,Anonymous,1486919689177.jpg,/Nm+NO9kA6fNHQMuqa5uuw==,US,,1490122801 117678634,117684153,2017-03-21 19:04:19,">>117683612 >How dare you respond to a non sequitur with a non sequitur Okay",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490123059 117678634,117684254,2017-03-21 19:05:15,">restricting free trade is not socialism if its between countries. >>117683394",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490123115 117678634,117684354,2017-03-21 19:06:12,">>117683455 >People controlling their own money is bad goyim >Please, give all your shekl- I mean money to the state >Free will isn't allowed for you people as it's dangerous Okay, goldberg.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490123172 117678634,117685027,2017-03-21 19:12:03,">>117684354 >tariffs are bad goy, please ignore the fact that I've moved all of my factories to mexico >why are you complaining? that's just the (((free market))) >maybe if you didn't have those pesky minimum wages we'd stay in America and give you a nice comfy wage of 2 dollars per day",,Anonymous,97e.png,xHw+y09lvDNcQ2bGavHpLg==,US,,1490123523 117678634,117685064,2017-03-21 19:12:23,">>117678634 Am I allowed in?",,Anonymous,Political Compass.png,y+qQa15yQjhCmNKeMrpDmg==,US,,1490123543 117678634,117685440,2017-03-21 19:15:28,">>117683394 >welfare is socialism >restricting free trade is socialism According to everyone but you, yes that is socialism, I don't know how I'm going to argue with you if you're just gonna pull the fascist version of ""but that wasn't REAL communism"" and put your fingers in your ears. http://study.com/academy/lesson/capitalism-vs-socialism-differences-advantages-disadvantages-the-underground-economy.html http://www.studylecturenotes.com/management-sciences/economics/381-characteristics-of-socialism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490123728 117678634,117685454,2017-03-21 19:15:33,">>117685064 >thinking corporations shouldn't be allowed to run amok >being allowed among Libertarians Unless you're kissing the right side of that compass, you're not allowed.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490123733 117678634,117685663,2017-03-21 19:17:18,">>117685440 Sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken. If private property (i.e. corporations, factories, etc.) is allowed to be owned by private individuals, it is NOT socialism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490123838 117678634,117685936,2017-03-21 19:19:37,">>117685663 Tell that to hitler.",,Anonymous,1489254052305.png,uZG/rG0t+rP8Luli7kfmkg==,US,,1490123977 117678634,117685973,2017-03-21 19:19:56,">>117685027 >socialism in your country has driven companies out >but please more socialism will work >nevermind how much we tax business, if we didn't take money from you and your buisness how would we pay for jamal and juan to fuck your wife Socialists are cucks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490123996 117678634,117686087,2017-03-21 19:20:59,">>117685663 >If private property (i.e. corporations, factories, etc.) is allowed to be owned by private individuals, it is NOT socialism. Regardless of how regulated and taxed it is? >But it wasn't REAL socialism goys",,Anonymous,1480435151186.png,332q9vBb0bYPkdUXPFdNDA==,US,,1490124059 117678634,117686117,2017-03-21 19:21:15,">>117685936 That quote belongs to Gregor Strasser, btw. Who was exiled. And all Strasserites and vaguely leftists from NSDAP got killed in the Night of the Long Knives.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490124075 117678634,117686119,2017-03-21 19:21:16,Some nice hoppe memes I found,,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1490124076 117678634,117686160,2017-03-21 19:21:36,>>117686119,,Anonymous,quibhoppeseriously'.jpg,ZWMW5uxTuKtVR9AH3E1VPA==,GB,,1490124096 117678634,117686193,2017-03-21 19:21:54,>>117686160,,Anonymous,quibhoppeequality.jpg,bo3iStzSg3PtXp5+9mb4CA==,GB,,1490124114 117678634,117686212,2017-03-21 19:22:04,">>117686087 >Regardless of how regulated and taxed it is? Yes.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490124124 117678634,117686234,2017-03-21 19:22:15,>>117686193,,Anonymous,quibhoppegovernment.jpg,HoaVGMOnBy/E9ECYPoHoSQ==,GB,,1490124135 117678634,117686251,2017-03-21 19:22:25,">>117685027 >nafta and TPP are free trade",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490124145 117678634,117686493,2017-03-21 19:24:48,">>117686117 Fair enough that checks out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490124288 117678634,117686498,2017-03-21 19:24:52,">>117686212 >guys you can own it >as long as you give all this to the state >follow all these regulations >adhere to socialists programs >but remember, it's still capitalism because you ""own"" it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490124292 117678634,117686669,2017-03-21 19:26:28,">>117686193 >>117686160 >>117686119 >>117686234 Anime!? im sorry I don't accept anime into my private covenant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490124388 117678634,117686852,2017-03-21 19:28:00,">>117686498 Yes. Sticking a muzzle on capitalism is still capitalism. The shareholders must be eliminated. Only the workers can have a share.",,Anonymous,3620.jpg,+T9YOFRUnUd8OEvgdlEzHA==,CA,,1490124480 117678634,117687086,2017-03-21 19:29:49,">Literally a system of anarchy that makes money god and morals a non-priority >Encourages people to racemix and opens the flood gates to everyone. >Allows unlicensed vice to be manufactured, sold and distributed >Openly pro-abortion >A breeding ground for degeneracy and cuckoldry AnCaps and Lulbertarians all need to be gased because they all essentially want to emulate their jewish overlords.",,Anonymous,Joseph Goebbels mfw Absolutley Degenerte.png,Ey7fM4xMrlocgiPRI5JpvA==,US,,1490124589 117678634,117687223,2017-03-21 19:30:53,">>117686669 Cmon, this is /pol/ anything with an anime chick on will get opened... That's sites really good but bizarre - ex army libertarian dude (uses SF airborne insignia), and it's full of libertarian anime memes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490124653 117678634,117687442,2017-03-21 19:32:41,It all tends to work if you have majority white countries. Europe was socialist and America was capitalist and both did fine until well......we all know.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490124761 117678634,117687515,2017-03-21 19:33:23,">>117687086 You have no idea, do you? Pic related on immigration. Then read >>117686119",,Anonymous,d86ba47e8a939586f517f80759b3bb4c.jpg,RSPa9Jn3SlunapaBv8rr4Q==,GB,,1490124803 117678634,117687549,2017-03-21 19:33:42,">>117687086 Im not anti-morals, anti-borders or pro-abortion. you don't know libertarianism outside of memes do you?",,Anonymous,NAP.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1490124822 117678634,117687697,2017-03-21 19:35:07,">>117686852 That's textbook socialism you cuck",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490124907 117678634,117687843,2017-03-21 19:36:29,">>117687442 Define ""work"". Marx isn't Cthulhu and his word did not drive men mad and cause a wave of commie revolts. Those things happened for a reason. Comic is from 1889. The Sherman Act was in 1890. People don't actually like to drop dead at age 30 after 16-hour work shift in the factory.",,Anonymous,3622.jpg,lHCjhdIVFVK6CG8lhrCTtw==,CA,,1490124989 117678634,117688231,2017-03-21 19:39:55,">>117687843 Commie revolts caused starvation of 200 million..But hey at least they didn't have to work for a rich guy right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490125195 117678634,117688528,2017-03-21 19:42:38,">>117686669 Know how I know you're a crypto-comunist?",,Anonymous,c3b (1).jpg,ebPInIZUQdj0aA8yxew8BA==,US,,1490125358 117678634,117688569,2017-03-21 19:42:59,">>117688231 Right. Cucks like you probably won't understand.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490125379 117678634,117688858,2017-03-21 19:45:41,">>117688528 How dare you attempt to stain Ron Pauls pure essence! I'm taking you to NAP court on his behalf.",,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,US,,1490125541 117678634,117689362,2017-03-21 19:50:26,">>117683639 What a profound intellectual this... professional wrestler is.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1490125826 117678634,117689512,2017-03-21 19:51:41,">>117689362 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JF8oSxXtM I AM THE GAME!",,Anonymous,1486919238234.jpg,9gyE1VA8W22fyIFoaV+LHw==,US,,1490125901 117678634,117689955,2017-03-21 19:55:29,>>117678634,,Anonymous,16722372_1255372464531070_7332063468805125080_o.png.jpg,aThGpkXG8xi+q76M+EbJ8A==,BR,,1490126129 117678634,117690185,2017-03-21 19:57:26,">>117678634 True /pol/",,Anonymous,1487770344238.jpg,ZhsfE+esK635XKpySHYQ3w==,BR,,1490126246 117678634,117690282,2017-03-21 19:58:16,">>117678634 >This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace Freedom of speech only applies to humans. It is therefore perfectly reasonable to remove any communist pig regardless of their gender, race, ethnicity, religion or social class.",,Anders Munch,1486949401603.jpg,V6vkcpZrrKGwLKEd/C5i2Q==,DK,,1490126296 117678634,117690404,2017-03-21 19:59:18,">>117690185 Respect Senpai. I don't care If you're brown you're welcome in the covenant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490126358 117678634,117690517,2017-03-21 20:00:19,,,Anonymous,unnamed (3).jpg,7g1XBZvSMdm5PbWTSlci0w==,BR,,1490126419 117678634,117690996,2017-03-21 20:04:32,,,Anonymous,1490023970296.jpg,eWoma1HUXvZPBvD8oG9VlA==,US,,1490126672 117678634,117691006,2017-03-21 20:04:39,">>117690404 Trust me, I'm white.",,Anonymous,bandeira_de_minas_gerais.jpg,NhzwDV24HggBsgDVnU8iug==,BR,,1490126679 117678634,117691181,2017-03-21 20:06:22,,,Anonymous,GET OUT.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1490126782 117678634,117691247,2017-03-21 20:07:10,https://youtu.be/Ptw41GUKLpc,,Anonymous,16649199_1261912440543739_5107095411871081906_n.png.jpg,gEgqRhqFj+NUn89Fbe9o3g==,BR,,1490126830 117678634,117691568,2017-03-21 20:09:58,https://youtu.be/9EqfTQJS8JA,,Anonymous,1487911295527m.jpg,D68euva1VU3oFLHSYl68Yw==,BR,,1490126998 117678634,117691677,2017-03-21 20:10:58,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o,,Anonymous,1489008765390.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,GR,,1490127058 117678634,117691904,2017-03-21 20:12:54,https://youtu.be/sSDClxjcR-4,,Anonymous,16819077_1266825380052445_3220970270450485673_o.png.jpg,ryQQjIJjA2PXdGnoVa6zdA==,BR,,1490127174 117678634,117692150,2017-03-21 20:15:07,"Damn brazil you guys got that new content i need,",,Anonymous,1485711063126.jpg,uZgjpI1iQy2kQSfn0+qGLw==,US,,1490127307 117678634,117692274,2017-03-21 20:16:13,https://youtu.be/fx-8nnNXGmw,,Anonymous,17097901_1271537692914547_2219737490453006037_o.png.jpg,c2Gnp8JlcbwP5dd6OT2vGg==,BR,,1490127373 117678634,117692558,2017-03-21 20:18:58,,,Anonymous,1487519235649.png,TXI7gnpCOTNTwrRt8RGBVw==,US,,1490127538 117678634,117692977,2017-03-21 20:22:32,,,Anonymous,1488062480159.jpg,3xrZIHDZJRqX5qPJMCOjPA==,GB,,1490127752 117678634,117693103,2017-03-21 20:23:51,">>117692150 Brazil has a massive libertarian student movement. If you guys had elected Bernie I guarantee the next person in charge would have been black and yellow.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490127831 117678634,117693109,2017-03-21 20:23:58,,,Anonymous,snek (10).png,aXlAl2u5gEzAo6UIS0BxZg==,US,,1490127838 117678634,117693844,2017-03-21 20:30:34,"Convince me, a centrist, to the anarcho-capitalist side of the compass. Go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490128234 117678634,117694031,2017-03-21 20:32:19,">>117692150 Learn portuguese. Exist greats AnCap br channels. https://youtu.be/qwZKUYLr0tk https://youtu.be/QAE6IzQj23o https://youtu.be/gbw1Mn4TCTU https://youtu.be/w7CQywwv9cA https://youtu.be/BQDerDwfgzw https://youtu.be/SkOgqFZFvEg https://youtu.be/UiRlFjohmP8 https://youtu.be/wb3FrZtje6U",,Anonymous,16832268_1265046430230340_9165481486416199807_n.png.jpg,xT0rmd0huh4CPJx0n5ma4Q==,BR,,1490128339 117678634,117694122,2017-03-21 20:33:11,">>117693844 Ok. Stop being a pussy trying to please everyone and take a stand for truth and your right to be left alone",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490128391 117678634,117694338,2017-03-21 20:35:10,">>117693844 Go here >>117678721 Get the pdf of Democracy, the God that failed, AKA Redpill: the book",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490128510 117678634,117694620,2017-03-21 20:37:30,">>117678634 soo what kinda ""libertarians"" are you people? the ones who are basically naive anarchists who think that some kind of working society can exist without the state? or the minimalist-state type of libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1490128650 117678634,117694801,2017-03-21 20:39:23,">>117694122 But dad, I don't want to be an adult",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490128763 117678634,117694804,2017-03-21 20:39:24,">>117694338 I do gots it. in the post you replied to. >>117694031 Im too dumb to learn portuguese. but i'll give it a listen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490128764 117678634,117695203,2017-03-21 20:43:13,">>117694620 >ancaps are naive while minarchists are not Reach chapter 11-III from Democracy the God that Failed for an argumentation as to why minarchists are cucks",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490128993 117678634,117695315,2017-03-21 20:44:22,">tfw you will never be american and vote for Ron Paul >tfw you will never be american and vote for Rand Paul",,Anonymous,1489074487898.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,DE,,1490129062 117678634,117695655,2017-03-21 20:47:21,,,Anonymous,1488132977622.png,zPhkGzKPDLEA6j1ymW/VzA==,US,,1490129241 117678634,117696442,2017-03-21 20:54:14,">>117695203 oh, so you guys are just ancaps.. thats disappointing",,Anonymous,1466099608964.jpg,fWagq06YEZpah6AZbvNqRg==,CZ,,1490129654 117678634,117696795,2017-03-21 20:57:25,">>117696442 >are you saying you advocate me being shot?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490129845 117678634,117696975,2017-03-21 20:58:52,"Anybody torn on being a pure Ancap in favor of putting transhumanism in the mix? I have sort of drifted there as I have been interested in futurology since like 2011, and the automation-unemployment problem and Planet of the Apes timebomb could be solved quite cleanly with cybernetic intelligence enhancement and 3D printing making manufactured products essentially downloadable.",,Anonymous,photo.png,NYje+ZOMq/aeMN/Ms9Xwxg==,US,,1490129932 117678634,117697289,2017-03-21 21:01:36,">>117696795 soo what happens to the people who are ancoms anfash anwhatever after you finally abolish the state? these people are heavily opposed to your ancap stuff dealing with them will require a large dose of treading on me, wont it?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1490130096 117678634,117697684,2017-03-21 21:05:08,">>117697289 People who do not live by Non Agression are a legitimate threat to a libertarian social order so defence is considered just in this case. these people will have to be segregated and removed, so to speak.",,Anonymous,snek (18).png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,US,,1490130308 117678634,117698075,2017-03-21 21:08:22,">>117696975 I don't know anything about transhumanism. sounds like we become robots, and that sounds lame.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490130502 117678634,117698153,2017-03-21 21:09:05,">>117683639 Let's discuss my favorite politicla position, at least is more intelligent than the current /pol/ack spambot cuck position. But I think there should be a state that grants quality of service provided by privates. If you don't have it the quality of life would be shit.",,Anonymous,,,PE,,1490130545 117678634,117698643,2017-03-21 21:12:45,">>117697684 these groups will already be segregated during the ""revolution"" phase and most of these groups wont even be anarchists, youll get straight up commies and fascists and a shitton of pro status quo people, local groups and gangs a lot of these groups are already organised and some of em highly collectivist, you guys are a bunch of individualist individual freedom lovers im not sure how a fringe group like ancaps can defeat the state and then defeat all these groups (some of which will immediately start forming a new state/s)",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1490130765 117678634,117698654,2017-03-21 21:12:51,"Ok gentlemen, I used to consider myself libertarian, and I'm still influenced by a lot by the stuff I read during that phase from guys like Mises and Hayek, specifically the stuff about central planning and the coordination problem. Here is what I want from you: 1. The state is always going to exist, why are so many libertarians happy to stand by on some abstract moral principle while people diametrically opposed to property rights (lefties) seize control of the state? 2. What should be goal number one of libertarians right now? Why don't libertarians ever seem to accomplish anything? Why do no establishment figures fear them/speak of them like they do with the alt right?",,Anonymous,IMG_6905.png,+6VrwYUEK8S2+wunZ05EAQ==,US,,1490130771 117678634,117698697,2017-03-21 21:13:09,">>117698153 >state that grants quality of service provided by privates yeah, because what are consumer associations?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490130789 117678634,117698805,2017-03-21 21:14:19,">>117698075 > Yeah robots is a possibility, which is not exactly lame, to be honest. More likely becoming Homo Evolutis and modding our own genes, maybe some nanomachines. Get used to hearing about it, in a decade that is all people will talk about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490130859 117678634,117698878,2017-03-21 21:14:51,,,Anonymous,217d46d325088201a520349da9c0ae7441a50ccfe129a445534a8193772e1e78_1.jpg,7A/WArlZM939gtYrQsdeKA==,BR,,1490130891 117678634,117699003,2017-03-21 21:15:56,,,Anonymous,1489348783642.jpg,SVoN1hZx2iUEv8o6YCLh4A==,BR,,1490130956 117678634,117699063,2017-03-21 21:16:33,">>117697684 >so to speak. Gets me every time",,Anonymous,hqdefault (5).jpg,3YkCgmrKJjypZnj3bOCxvA==,GB,,1490130993 117678634,117699137,2017-03-21 21:17:14,">>117698153 So there are private buisnesses but the state regulates the service/products to their national standard? >>117698643 Thats fine they can govern themselves, We will govern ourselves. we dont have to defeat them. we just need to protect our libertarian social order on our property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490131034 117678634,117699483,2017-03-21 21:20:06,">>117698697 But: -they have no real power -they shil for their business -more of them don't know about production costs. >>117699137 >So there are private buisnesses but the state regulates the service/products to their national standard? Yes",,Anonymous,,,PE,,1490131206 117678634,117699698,2017-03-21 21:22:28,">>117699483 >they have no real power yeah because the only power is to expropriate and fine the shit out of people they provide info to avoid shitty products >they shil for their business sure they break trust to lose business, ok >more of them don't know about production costs simply not true",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490131348 117678634,117699705,2017-03-21 21:22:33,">>117699137 yeah i bet that when you smash the state and a new communist totalitarian nightmare replaces it, it will totally let you guys alone your enemies absolutelly will try to establish a state and will inevitably attack you, so this >Thats fine they can govern themselves, We will govern ourselves. we dont have to defeat them is a cute meme is anything about ancaps not a meme t b h?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1490131353 117678634,117699949,2017-03-21 21:24:56,">>117698654 >why are so many libertarians happy to stand by on some abstract moral principle while people diametrically opposed to property rights (lefties) seize control of the state? They're faggy cuck-tarians that need to be purged from the libertarian movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490131496 117678634,117700067,2017-03-21 21:25:59,">>117698643 That is why seasteading is so important but most Ancaps don't know what the fuck I am talking about. Essentially make independent artificial island nations that compete for investment and talent, the Ancap islands win (probably a Jew island too), everyone is watching which societies win out because people take bets and it becomes a game. People just need an example and they will become a movement in the land countries, and as a bonus the Universal Basic Income islands will be failures and show the world that it is not the way to go as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490131559 117678634,117700322,2017-03-21 21:28:23,">>117700067 Fuck that dumb shit I don't wanna live in the middle of the ocean. that would suck.",,Anonymous,1490040550847.jpg,vAgniAu55ZA2MizEqXBtXQ==,US,,1490131703 117678634,117700344,2017-03-21 21:28:32,">>117679859 NAO STEAHP ON SNEHK UR VOILAITYNG DAH EN AYY PEE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490131712 117678634,117700472,2017-03-21 21:29:40,">>117698654 >Why don't libertarians ever seem to accomplish anything? People vote for free crap and the government just keeps expanding.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490131780 117678634,117700583,2017-03-21 21:30:42,">>117699698 >yeah because the only power is to expropriate and fine the shit out of people they provide info to avoid shitty products They do that in Spain? In Peru the ones that do that are INDECOPI and the regulators. And they are apointed by consumer associations, the industry and the government, but they depend on the executive branch. I, for one, do not trust in civil associations, as they don't earn money, they're easy to be captured by business. And production costs are secret.",,Anonymous,,,PE,,1490131842 117678634,117700619,2017-03-21 21:31:03,">>117698654 >What should be goal number one of libertarians right now? Remove women's right to vote, they are the main reason insane taxes, regulations and laws.",,Anders Munch,1489298080157.jpg,6sRWMXXqLdkPTOh9Lw784w==,DK,,1490131863 117678634,117700759,2017-03-21 21:32:30,">>117699483 So what if buisnesses volintarily pay for quality control research and it will give customers incentive to pay for ""high quality tested"" products rather than the guys who opt out and have ""low quality unregulated goods"" you dont need a state then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490131950 117678634,117701041,2017-03-21 21:35:09,">>117700472 This. democracy is against freedom because retards vote for free shit & slavery instead of personal resposibility any day.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490132109 117678634,117701181,2017-03-21 21:36:20,">>117700322 Then it is ironic that you include flying cars in your meme because that would be the missing link that would convince people like you, there are working models and you could fly to the nearest land country every day if you wanted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490132180 117678634,117701654,2017-03-21 21:40:57,its lit,,Anonymous,1489356804202.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,US,,1490132457 117678634,117701948,2017-03-21 21:43:46,">>117701181 Shit, I guess your right but I still don't have a flying car yet so maybe later.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490132626 117678634,117702293,2017-03-21 21:47:01,">>117700759 Businesses will voluntarily pay for quality control research if they can charge the customer >But the guarantees well we got that, but still is necessary a mechanism to enforce them Don't get me wrong, I mean regulate quality but only in the economically problematic markets. Ask how was the telecommunication before 1983 in the US. I bet it was a lot of people 'working' on projects earning a lot of money but providing no real service.",,Anonymous,,,PE,,1490132821 117678634,117702717,2017-03-21 21:51:10,">>117678634 I became an AnCap, but I still want restrictions within my own little covenant. Six years, from Totalitarian to Traditionalist to Anarcho-Capitalist, albeit sans labels, really.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490133070 117678634,117703458,2017-03-21 21:58:06,">>117702293 >a lot of people 'working' on projects earning a lot of money but providing no real service. how are they earning money without providing a service? I gotta get in on that market. but seriously high quality products have high production costs. why cant the customer choose to use a more affordable (and infeirior) product at their own discretion? instead of cutting all the cheap goods that people want to use.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490133486 117678634,117704771,2017-03-21 22:10:28,This thread was awful.,,Anonymous,1485354265691.jpg,MUErJFpC0bVn6RYnmi2JUQ==,CL,,1490134228 117678634,117705013,2017-03-21 22:12:38,">>117703458 >I gotta get in on that market. You can't. It was AT&T when it was the only telecom provider but seriously high quality products have high production costs. why cant the customer choose to use a more affordable (and infeirior) product at their own discretion? instead of cutting all the cheap goods that people want to use. Agree on that",,Anonymous,,,PE,,1490134358 117678634,117706817,2017-03-21 22:28:21,">>117700322 You would be a homesteader, literally like a pioneer. Just get a wife to churn butter and have your kids as you fish and farm your algae, or maybe you are a degenerate hedonist that wants ""luxuries"". Live a hard life free of degeneracy and know your kids will have it better, just like the pioneers who cut down acres and acres of trees by themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490135301 117678634,117707178,2017-03-21 22:31:49,">>117679859 Your time is up. Thank you for the stepping stones of trump and Jew hate, now please crawl back in your totalitarian hole and let us rebuild society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490135509 117678634,117707599,2017-03-21 22:35:30,">>117686251 Global free trade isn't the same as voluntary trade with neighbors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490135730 117678634,117708094,2017-03-21 22:39:32,">>117704771 The commie from Chile... you are awful.",,Anonymous,1489607479555.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,BR,,1490135972 117678634,117709419,2017-03-21 22:50:09,,,Anonymous,8709ab5987febdc2d8c7c9142332fa16f7f3c3d0f333dfffdb263c61a83a41f4_1.jpg,pEj1OO4IhI87NvFji0lH1g==,BR,,1490136609 117678634,117709866,2017-03-21 22:53:58,,,Anonymous,2d8778d6c6931a544fdf1da8305947d3a6252476f83e1c7badce664f6066e570_1.jpg,L1oK67UI/9Z2jRv/IduWfw==,BR,,1490136838 117678634,117710277,2017-03-21 22:57:43,">>117709866 At least I got good intentions",,Anonymous,,,PE,,1490137063 117678634,117710417,2017-03-21 22:58:51,">>117696975 I only met two transhumanism. One was AnCap too, the other was a lefty man who dresses as a woman, you can imagine... Like the Agorists, transhumanism goes hand in hand with AnCap. Here in Brazil, every agorista is AnCap. I do not see any problem, many AnCaps actually believe that technology will put an end to the state.",,Anonymous,41711af2ca8e8b74d6d5f181a37d3ef90448f5fad6895998fe9030f7a3901f2f_1.jpg,axKQbYyYctQ583qK5uKrnA==,BR,,1490137131 117678634,117710602,2017-03-21 23:00:43,">>117710277 >At least I got good intentions Are you left, hermano? You know that the evil that infests our continent is populism and socialism.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490137243 117678634,117710699,2017-03-21 23:01:44,">>117710602 Actually Center",,Anonymous,,,PE,,1490137304 117678634,117710702,2017-03-21 23:01:46,">>117696975 Transhumanism is inevitable if society was to be AnCap so dont worry, you are on the right track by being pure ancap.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490137306 117678634,117711525,2017-03-21 23:09:40,"Reminder that the Nazis are the OG social justice warriors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkisch_equality",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490137780 117678634,117711935,2017-03-21 23:13:25,">>117681987 >civic nationalism No mate. Read Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490138005 117678634,117712032,2017-03-21 23:14:15,woah....,,Anonymous,authoritarianslul.png,w7ikULnNHUPfV/W5SK4lZA==,US,,1490138055 117678634,117712255,2017-03-21 23:16:15,">>117680953 >natsoc. >national socialist >national >*socialist* ... >SOCIALIST >Right-wing Pick one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490138175 117678634,117712434,2017-03-21 23:17:45,"Democracy is just tyranny of the majority. An emperor (chief proprietor of private property covenant) may be a Marcus Aurelius or a Nero but the people will never be Marcus Aurelius and they will always be Nero.",,Anonymous,1489069967550 (1).png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,US,,1490138265 117678634,117712666,2017-03-21 23:19:35,I lust for communist blood,,Anonymous,1486490236029.jpg,w+gGLwFrVfpOlIehiBtHZA==,US,,1490138375 117678634,117713038,2017-03-21 23:22:55,">>117681987 >civic nationalism I'm a Libertarian, and NOPE, fuck that. Dislike National Socialists all you want, they are right about race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490138575 117678634,117713408,2017-03-21 23:26:36,">>117694620 What part of small government do you not understand!?!?",,Anonymous,1488738259860.webm,60T8GwnCIb+TdqDIDiURsA==,US,,1490138796 117678634,117713545,2017-03-21 23:28:04,">>117710417 >I only met two transhumanism. One was AnCap too, the other was a lefty man who dresses as a woman, you can imagine... Stuff like this makes me worry about what would happen if transhumanist desired tech both becomes possible and if authoritarian types (namely SJWs) get their hands on it. Ideally, they would not be able to push their unethical uses of it on us via big government and instead said uses would be left to largely die when solely exposed to the free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490138884 117678634,117713861,2017-03-21 23:30:54,Demoracy: The God that Failed is seriously the most redpilled book I've ever read.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490139054 117678634,117713907,2017-03-21 23:31:20,">>117691677 https://www.redbubble.com/people/nationalcrusade/works/25653456-pol-politically-incorrect-helicopter-ride-alt-right-logo ^There you go, bby",,Anonymous,pol.png,xsLmOk/QmKahr7m5u1yDIw==,US,,1490139080 117678634,117713976,2017-03-21 23:32:03,,,Anonymous,17349862_1287121171356199_8305547085070392349_o.png,zk2dgyhlrV4bXTH3m61sRQ==,US,,1490139123 117678634,117714113,2017-03-21 23:33:24,">>117713408 I like this webm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490139204 117678634,117714183,2017-03-21 23:34:02,"Hey folks Take and vote >http://www.strawpoll.me/12581497/r >>117701837",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490139242 117678634,117715001,2017-03-21 23:41:35,">>117713408 whats the back story here?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490139695 117678634,117715477,2017-03-21 23:46:08,what happens to poorfags in a minarchist or ancap society?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490139968 117678634,117715879,2017-03-21 23:49:59,"I used to think it was hoppeless, then I saw this thread.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490140199 117678634,117716262,2017-03-21 23:53:57,"what happens to poorfags in a minarchist or ancap society? Many ex British colonies in the Caribbean and Africa are Minarchists. The luckiest and most upstanding young poorfags get to be police officers. The less connected less upstanding lucky poorfags get the honor of being drafted in the army and issued a clean ensemble they can keep. The least upstanding poorfags migrate to Europe and Jamaica Bay where they can access less minarchist social services. The Jewish poorfag gets rich writing about Minarchism.",,pakistanis are faggots,,,AR,,1490140437 117678634,117716986,2017-03-22 00:01:02,Time for action,,Anonymous,1488368655298.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,US,,1490140862 117678634,117717207,2017-03-22 00:03:26,">>117704771 no u",,Anonymous,1486171362582.jpg,pz1AlTRxS+ILFG8xjn+G0Q==,US,,1490141006 117678634,117717238,2017-03-22 00:03:45,fuck natsoc scum,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490141025 117678634,117718154,2017-03-22 00:12:39,How actually Libertarian was Thomas Jefferson? I keep reading and listening about him essentially dreaming about an ancap libertarian America and am wondering how true that is.,,Anonymous,Smaller the better.jpg,gcEFebmWtXsJSbdRCl38Qw==,US,,1490141559 117678634,117718701,2017-03-22 00:18:23,"http://www.strawpoll.me/12581497/r It is now tied, /pol/ will become a free market place of ideas instead of a natsoc cesspool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490141903 117678634,117718722,2017-03-22 00:18:39,">>117678634 Name one (1) reason why Libertarianism/AnCap won't turn into Feudalism after the first few monopolies are established (and yes that includes Libertarianism because eventually companies are going to become bigger than the government). >Hard mode: no ""the free market will sort things out!"". That's not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490141919 117678634,117719021,2017-03-22 00:21:44,">>117718722 This is why I'm a minarchist, the social contract exists for a reason (that being to establish a night-watchman state ).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490142104 117678634,117719290,2017-03-22 00:24:26,">>117719021 ^My vision of a night-watchman state includes preventing corporations from infringing upon the inalienable rights of people living under said social contract. Likewise, it also includes having a strong military to prevent said companies from taking over).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490142266 117678634,117719826,2017-03-22 00:30:07,">>117713545 So this transhumanist SJW usually comment on the videos of Hoppean Snake Memes youtube channel. He's a guy, I think he's from Argentina, he wears women's clothes, hair on his chest ... he's a freak. SJWs are using technology, idiot apps and games. But I think transhumanism is possible only in a free and highly capitalist society.",,Anonymous,8167db79728290ff11486b2ebe64e1cb3a834be9210504833410be37959fe6a9_1.jpg,KvrWUsYz87sSqVOXf+gCDA==,BR,,1490142607 117678634,117720256,2017-03-22 00:34:36,">>117713976 I do not understand this division of agonists and ancaps in the USA. Here we are practically the same thing, AnCaps and AnCaps agonists.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490142876 117678634,117720612,2017-03-22 00:38:18,">>117719826 >I think transhumanism is possible only in a free and highly capitalist society. While I agree that this is the only environment where transhumanist stuff would have any real hope of initially occurring that is merely the opening of pandora's box. Authoritarians might be able to copy and steal such tech, and so make life hell for those they try to control. Our only safeguard, that I can think of, is to ensure said authoritarians don't jeopardize the state of having a free and highly capitalist society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490143098 117678634,117720928,2017-03-22 00:41:28,"Some cuck made a poll. >>117716815",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490143288 117678634,117723770,2017-03-22 01:11:21,google bookchin,,Anonymous,6465c934763c3ed17bab5ee79742738a848d63f26c5dfa6e285a1b9e8235b694.png,gso/GPvzVKw0iOclBF9osQ==,US,,1490145081 117842710,117842710,2017-03-22 18:54:13,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ&t=177s >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/)))",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1490208853 117842710,117842795,2017-03-22 18:54:46,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1490208886 117842710,117842876,2017-03-22 18:55:21,,,Anonymous,1490023993595.png,xWbOH+078M65hA7wPGUoXQ==,US,,1490208921 117842710,117843631,2017-03-22 19:00:25,,,Anonymous,1490140529536.jpg,aThGpkXG8xi+q76M+EbJ8A==,US,,1490209225 118212297,118212297,2017-03-25 06:36:58,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ&t=177s >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) On scale of 0 to AnCap How free are you?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,US,,1490423818 118212297,118212346,2017-03-25 06:37:38,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,15966300_1833359693601243_6275391223397632600_n.jpg,ylHG+ULWWY4mKcM4OFjbgA==,US,,1490423858 118212297,118212372,2017-03-25 06:38:08,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1490423888 118212297,118212386,2017-03-25 06:38:26,">>118212297 http://vocaroo.com/i/s10jUf7OS0Vv",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490423906 118212297,118212512,2017-03-25 06:40:16,">>118212386 i agree. very logic and rational.",,Anonymous,MajesticShyGreatwhiteshark.webm,1jnhzE8/U9uDnd0qe2Zypg==,US,,1490424016 118212297,118212651,2017-03-25 06:42:22,,,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1490424142 118212297,118212954,2017-03-25 06:46:53,,,Anonymous,Enlightened.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1490424413 118212297,118213348,2017-03-25 06:52:15,,,Anonymous,1486186775179.png,NHZlurCM1iiAzI+5pkZEAA==,US,,1490424735 118212297,118213681,2017-03-25 06:57:04,Government get out REEEEEEEEEEE,,Anonymous,ron_paul_rifle.png,kVZ3g/KYLdtNYGtV29bL0g==,US,,1490425024 118212297,118213769,2017-03-25 06:58:25,Pretty sure the Trump statists are a bigger problem than the lefty statists. Trump voters gove no shits.about the NAP or liberty.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490425105 118212297,118213825,2017-03-25 06:59:24,">>118212512 >fleshlight next to equations Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490425164 118212297,118214152,2017-03-25 07:04:33,">>118213769 They're American Patriots, they can come around to embracing freedom. Leftists will never get any respect from me.",,Anonymous,1488752726737.png,MdDUTz5TLmIjEyDVAwtVdw==,US,,1490425473 118212297,118214529,2017-03-25 07:10:54,,,Anonymous,QsZPVq1.png,froj00cCZ8s9TBn5T/GolQ==,US,,1490425854 118212297,118215312,2017-03-25 07:23:01,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1488194041733.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,US,,1490426581 118212297,118215644,2017-03-25 07:28:23,">>118215312 >anti-communist >violence is needed to protect society another example of lolertarians looking up to fascism to uncuck their pathetic ideology",,Anonymous,1489330947303.jpg,zaG4TfO0U0Zotam6Wa5plA==,BE,,1490426903 118212297,118215829,2017-03-25 07:31:19,">>118215644 >memes make your ideology stoopid! We don't need fascism to keep our ideology afloat. Commies, lazy cunts, and anyone not contributing to society will starve and die.",,Anonymous,IMG_4123.jpg,Se4UhJfTE/XSdbp2JomDLQ==,AU,,1490427079 118212297,118216415,2017-03-25 07:40:40,">>118215644 We're not pacifists commies are a threat to our liberty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490427640 118212297,118217024,2017-03-25 07:49:49,"When you destroy your people and culture by promoting obesity, mass immigration, hd pornography, and feminism, just to make a bit more profit",,Anonymous,1490199654336.jpg,MCvlZeRseAi1ck3ntauxpA==,CA,,1490428189 118212297,118217217,2017-03-25 07:52:35,">>118217024 All of that degeneracy would not be funded by welfare in a free market. Also no leftist Canadian state could criminalize discrimination and ""hate speech""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490428355 118212297,118217218,2017-03-25 07:52:35,">>118215644 Taxation is theft which is punishable by death.",,Anonymous,1488876847937.jpg,e0PcU8WLKpYWaCXqYJt8sQ==,US,,1490428355 118212297,118217323,2017-03-25 07:53:55,">>118217024 Read and learn leaf",,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1490428435 118212297,118217437,2017-03-25 07:55:45,">>118215644 What makes you think libertarians are non violent?",,Anonymous,1488751476585.jpg,iCwFn2VLpIwPMP4W/nDGrw==,GB,,1490428545 118212297,118217461,2017-03-25 07:56:04,">>118217323 >muh hoppe He's the only acceptable Libertarian philosopher and a lot of people here wouldn't do what is necessary as dictated by him to defend their free society in the end. Besides, why settle for second best? We all know that the Libertarian open society is weak in nature. That is what led us to here to begin with. Just relent and embrace Fash. Nobody really stays libertarian past 18 years old unless they're non-white, gay, autistic or drug addicted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490428564 118212297,118217613,2017-03-25 07:58:17,">>118217461 You don't like freedom? You want the state ordering your life? Bootlicker.",,Anonymous,1486107510992.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1490428697 118212297,118217680,2017-03-25 07:59:19,">>118217461 >Libertarian open society is weak in nature. Natural selection is scientific fact. Libertarianism allows this to continue it's work in modern society. The free market is the key to a strong economy and society.",,Anonymous,1488851077196.png,HHULeUtWGXWzu3SdUfgSLQ==,US,,1490428759 118212297,118217795,2017-03-25 08:01:20,How would bounties and killing ( aggressor or self defense ) be treated in an AnCap society?,,{bb}:pinkpilled•tr4p,72365717324cc26a3fd636f8ba5f9abc.jpg,ixkn9Li1BwOSl3fCwIMoTg==,US,,1490428880 118212297,118217882,2017-03-25 08:02:28,">>118217323 >inplying the libertarian party wouldnt scream ""muh ebil natzi"" at hoppe >implying even 1% of libertarians have read hoppe",,Anonymous,american-psycho-bateman.jpg,NrzYk5HbnRdQAcMYgyyelw==,CA,,1490428948 118212297,118217948,2017-03-25 08:03:38,">>118212954 Daily reminder.",,Anonymous,Meet-the-Filthy-Libertarian-Anarcho-Capitalist-Jews-Ayn-Rand-Ludwig-von-Mises-Murry-Rothbard-Milton-Friedman.jpg,7TXcLGHXXw2qVKv2w2BvGQ==,FI,,1490429018 118212297,118217967,2017-03-25 08:03:56,">>118217882 >implying they are THE libertarians What a silly joke.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490429036 118212297,118218209,2017-03-25 08:07:15,">>118215829 >We don't need fascism to keep our ideology afloat yes you do fag, you need fascism to keep all the other ideologies under control >>118216415 everyone has the right to live and think as they want as long as they don't physically harm you (this is what libcucks unironically believe) >>118217218 >stop being statist or the government and it's military will execute you by throwing you out of a helicopter xD kys >>118217437 libertarians believe in freedom for all, you aren't a libertarian you're just an extreme capitalist on economic level and a closet-fascist on social topics.",,Anonymous,1478344605362.jpg,Dr9e6LGsAV9uYNA2sK6JUQ==,BE,,1490429235 118212297,118218327,2017-03-25 08:08:44,">>118218209 >the government and it's military will execute you by throwing you out of a helicopter xD >le statist paradigm When did I say the government?",,Anonymous,1488736771638.jpg,lxgfyEEBwLjMGjovYvsx9Q==,US,,1490429324 118212297,118218397,2017-03-25 08:09:47,">>118217461 Hoppe isn't the only one. Rothbard, Rockwell. Mainstream Libertarianism gets invaded by kikes and leftists just like any right wing group. See Richard Spencer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490429387 118212297,118218504,2017-03-25 08:11:22,">>118218327 >I will personally form a murder squad to kill those who have different opinions hmmm never seen that before",,Anonymous,1484256196989.jpg,CI02kxJpBXJ94/Vikapaow==,BE,,1490429482 118212297,118218507,2017-03-25 08:11:23,,,Anonymous,IMG_5746.jpg,xAqWg+ZAm+ZnGm9VfjXe6A==,US,,1490429483 118212297,118218737,2017-03-25 08:14:30,">>118218504 >opinions Taxation isn't an opinion it's a threat of force against me.",,Anonymous,1487991618610.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1490429670 118212297,118218877,2017-03-25 08:16:28,">>118218737 your parents pay taxes though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490429788 118212297,118218963,2017-03-25 08:17:30,>>118218877,,Anonymous,1488737682247.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1490429850 118212297,118218997,2017-03-25 08:17:59,,,Anonymous,1489265864607.png,NFdPxJ9se4bPHFJOEKEVFg==,FI,,1490429879 118212297,118219031,2017-03-25 08:18:30,,,Anonymous,rothbard.png,GIPFTlL7KfbSg4lXdfc/qQ==,FI,,1490429910 118212297,118219079,2017-03-25 08:19:20,">>118218963 Do you have a counter argument? Your parents don't pay taxes?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490429960 118212297,118219082,2017-03-25 08:19:22,">>118218397 Also Ludwig von mises.",,Anonymous,169870d4f144048fd54d437a13e91f12.jpg,IQZuIufCF1jsVTnP8b6pOw==,GB,,1490429962 118212297,118219259,2017-03-25 08:21:56,">>118219079 >counter argument for a non-argument I think you're confused about how this works.",,Anonymous,1439870798560.jpg,LAuN/K4j9tQ6miPnjgNaQQ==,US,,1490430116 118212297,118219331,2017-03-25 08:23:02,When did you guys realise that every crisis can be traced back to government fucking up?,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490430182 118212297,118219361,2017-03-25 08:23:29,">>118217680 What if a united society tries to take over the libertarian one? Say muslims come and impose sharia law, rape your women, bomb your enterprises. Libertarians would be all by themselves against an united force. Even if they intended to help each other, they would be too uncoordinated to do it in a signifiant way. Also, in ancap jews would fucking buy us all. Come to think of it, we may really live in a libertarian society as descendants of people who partly lost their freedom, in which case you would be just revisionists who look to temporarily sort out a perpetual problem - that in the libertarian society most people lose their freedom.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490430209 118212297,118219367,2017-03-25 08:23:36,">>118218997 >>118219031 ANCAPS BTFO",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1490430216 118212297,118219649,2017-03-25 08:27:35,">>118212386 This guy gets it. You see the way things work is that regardless of if you want are inconvenienced by not having roads or not, nobody's gonna pay for them. The way things work is that you have to threaten people with fines and imprisonment for not giving a portion of their income to the government, or else they're unpatriotic. Fucking normies thinking you shouldn't have to pay for things you don't want",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490430455 118212297,118219718,2017-03-25 08:28:25,">best Libertarian podcast/YouTube show out there Good starter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0JaI8DKnc Guys, take the 10 episode challenge to fully understand the contexts. Many of the shows follow up on each other, like a continuing story. DISCLAIMER: He disagrees a lot with your best pal Trump, he also defends he on some occasions. In my opinion this proves he is unbiased when it comes to left and right. The great thing about Jason is he never fucks you over, he is the most honest guy I know in the podcast environment. Give it a chance, even if you are a Democrat or a hardline Republican, I hope we can all stand on the side of Freedom and Truth.",,Anonymous,jsp.jpg,B+R6Z5Gy6ysKSEylpj98ug==,NL,,1490430505 118212297,118219752,2017-03-25 08:28:50,">>118219361 >Libertarians would be all by themselves Why do you believe libertarians wouldn't fund military defense?",,Anonymous,1490350040138.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,US,,1490430530 118212297,118219799,2017-03-25 08:29:31,">>118219361 https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over Plus remember govt no longer has a monopoly on violence or serious weaponry.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490430571 118212297,118219929,2017-03-25 08:31:10,">>118219752 That's how you create the state",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490430670 118212297,118219953,2017-03-25 08:31:31,">>118219031 >Finn >Caplan >California >Quote Marks >Jargon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490430691 118212297,118220084,2017-03-25 08:33:11,">>118219929 Yes. By defending it. Libertarians are fine spending money on defending the State. Funding the maintenance of any hegemony is right the fuck out, however.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490430791 118212297,118220116,2017-03-25 08:33:36,">>118219929 Nope (funded and staffed voluntarily)",,Anonymous,1485467630330.png,nVtGTzDS/4rX4UVzyhn3Vg==,US,,1490430816 118212297,118220138,2017-03-25 08:33:51,">>118219367 >ANCAPS BTFO Btfo (you)ing your own post. Embarrassing. Plz go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490430831 118212297,118220730,2017-03-25 08:42:18,,,Anonymous,1489083374742.jpg,gfYDVGzWkaILXGUXDQcyJA==,US,,1490431338 118212297,118221033,2017-03-25 08:46:48,">>118220084 What if the state then says that it needs roads for the military to respond to certain threats faster, and then they decide to give the population access to those roads when they're not used by the military, in exchange for a sum of money?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490431608 118212297,118221074,2017-03-25 08:47:32,Libertarians like defense spending.,,Anonymous,1490302504813.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1490431652 118212297,118221407,2017-03-25 08:52:38,">>118220084 >>118221033 Also, you might want to make a fundation for keeping the people in your ancap society alive, for when the enemy arrives, you will have more soldiers. We can call it welfare.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490431958 118212297,118221422,2017-03-25 08:52:48,">>118221074 This, if there's any legitimate use of the state it's military defense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490431968 118212297,118221465,2017-03-25 08:53:14,"Literally every person who trys to argue against ancappery Pic related",,Anonymous,WqlOjcq.jpg,yhE9mA7+ildLteoGKZHl3A==,US,,1490431994 118212297,118221562,2017-03-25 08:54:28,">>118221407 If it's funded voluntarily, then it's cool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490432068 118212297,118222157,2017-03-25 09:02:41,">>118221562 >voluntarily Obviously, the majority of the inhabitants will decide to create it. But everyone would have to fund it, as it benefits the whole society. If a minority doesn't contribute, the majority would force them, as the fundation provides a service for the whole community, so that everyone should pay. Why should only I pay if it will benefit both of us? Can I determine you to pay? Yes, cause we are more. You can run or obey, fuck your freedom.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490432561 118212297,118222389,2017-03-25 09:05:45,">>118222157 That's democracy you roadcuck, if you vote to force taxation on others it's not voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490432745 118212297,118222393,2017-03-25 09:05:46,">>118221407 >the enemy arrives How do you invade a nuclear armed country? >>118222157 >Obviously, the majority of the inhabitants will decide to create it. You're describing a statist society.",,Anonymous,nuke 1.webm,HWcftw5ofhVw9f2jSRsd3A==,SI,,1490432746 118212297,118222643,2017-03-25 09:09:15,"I have an opinions that ancapism breeds very strong collectivism in the sense of family, ie if there is no government to support you, you can only resort to yourself and your family; the collective. Thoughts?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490432955 118212297,118222742,2017-03-25 09:10:32,">>118222643 I agree. Individuals can freely choose collectivism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490433032 118212297,118222801,2017-03-25 09:11:30,">>118222643 Correct.",,Anonymous,Hoppe democracy.jpg,9OsTh47MiKXf/yO/lfA3Dw==,SI,,1490433090 118212297,118222889,2017-03-25 09:12:49,"LIBERTARIANISM DOESN'T WORK YOU KEKS OUR SOCIETY IS DEGENERATED, WE NEED RIGHT WING AUTHORITARIANISM TO BRING NATIONALISTIC SANITY TO OUR PEOPLE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490433169 118212297,118223111,2017-03-25 09:15:55,">>118215312 is there source on this",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490433355 118212297,118223198,2017-03-25 09:17:06,">>118222889 Or you could just physically remove them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490433426 118212297,118223277,2017-03-25 09:18:06,"It's hilarious to me that statists are so fucking retarded, and by extension belive we are, that they cannot grasp the very simple concept of voluntary action. So in ancapistan, when you want a road, you simply send an email round to the people that would be affected and ASK for money, they give it, great you can use the road, they don't give it, you don't stick a gun in their face and demand the money, you just say, mmmk well you can use the road for a toll m8, g'day. Fuck, even if you took the tax code right now, broke it down to where your taxes would go to and put a check box next to each line item, and say would you like to throw down on this public service now or just use the services for a probably higher one time fee when you need it, and you know, not stick a gun in their face if they don't want to pay for whatever services they don't want to pay for. It's this radical new idea called, fuck off and stop sticking a gun in my face and demanding my money to pay for shit I don't want.",,Anonymous,1490356897106.png,GQFdyeW2mhiQjzR1RWIrFw==,US,,1490433486 118212297,118223480,2017-03-25 09:20:35,">>118223111 No, I have no clue where the image came from sorry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490433635 118212297,118223557,2017-03-25 09:21:37,">>118222389 Some of you agree that there needs to be a state, for security. If your neighbor who doesn't pay violates the Nap, you call the military and wreck him. The problem is that the same shit will happen if you lie to the military that the respective neighbor violated the Nap. That is how if the majority funds the military, the minority has no choice but to pay or flee.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490433697 118212297,118223642,2017-03-25 09:22:42,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icqPHsNumuU,,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490433762 118212297,118223828,2017-03-25 09:25:17,>>118223557,,Anonymous,e9967948f8174bb4aabaffdc1d6aab1b.jpg,hl37jXLkMy0Yne2nFVsZXQ==,US,,1490433917 118212297,118223924,2017-03-25 09:26:26,">>118223557 Which is why there shouldn't be a state. No middle man to aid your corruption.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1490433986 118212297,118224240,2017-03-25 09:30:36,"Redpill me on Libertarians. What necessary actions must be taken to raise a Libertarian candidate to office in the future?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490434236 118212297,118224248,2017-03-25 09:30:43,">>118223924 But then how do you defend against states who usurp your land?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490434243 118212297,118224333,2017-03-25 09:31:41,">>118224240 lower the age requirement for a candidate down to 16",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490434301 118212297,118224422,2017-03-25 09:32:46,">>118224248 Just as a state would, with military. I can't speak for everyone but I would voluntarily fight for my community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490434366 118212297,118224483,2017-03-25 09:33:36,">>118224248 Look at his pic. You know, ancap memeball strawmen aren't necessarily wrong. If you do violate the NAP, you can well expect a nuke flying toward your house.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490434416 118212297,118224505,2017-03-25 09:33:58,">>118223557 >you call the military and wreck him The NAP doesn't apply in a statist society. In ancap you can choose a different insurer if you don't like the current one. One of these companies could potentially reach out and insure a community in a state territory, but that would carry enormous risk and would probably be too expensive for companies to bother with. >>118224248 You're still ignoring nukes. Not to mention a very well armed community without a tax structure.",,Anonymous,1474131286986.png,khrvrmPK2EXlR1HDGl+Ggg==,SI,,1490434438 118212297,118224607,2017-03-25 09:35:20,">>118224333 Dat flag Dat IQ Dat slave mentality",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490434520 118212297,118224743,2017-03-25 09:37:10,">>118224422 You will face a strategy though. You will need a man to come up with a strategy yourselves, and the circumstances will not give him time to inform you all. You will just need to obey orders. That's where the middle man appears. That's when the strongest gets the opportunity to be a leader.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490434630 118212297,118224937,2017-03-25 09:39:41,">>118224743 ffs man are you retarded? you wanna know how libertarian civil defense works? read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Boer_War",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490434781 118212297,118225659,2017-03-25 09:48:10,">>118224483 >>118224505 Nukes are expensive. Plus they will inevitably fuck up the property of someone else, so will you be violating the nap towards another member. Nukes are retarded and out of question. As for the more insurers meme, we can concieve that 2 men paying different insurers have a conflict. then you will have an insurer war. Insurers will form alliances, syndicates, to be able to provide more protection for the same price. they will win over clients and the unadapted insurers will go bankrupt. And you can not do a thing to stop it.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490435290 118212297,118225856,2017-03-25 09:50:00,">>118224937 boers lost because they were overwhelmed in the end. The state is the strongest type of society.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490435400 118212297,118226159,2017-03-25 09:53:18,">>118225856 Man, you are definitely mentally challenged. It's no offense, it's just pity. Chill.",,Anonymous,Image00062.jpg,FEiZcaX16zv0Lt+Hz2HdlA==,RU,,1490435598 118212297,118226478,2017-03-25 09:57:29,">>118226159 >a society was smart enough to become a state >began conquering the libertarian tribes around >the remainig free tribes formed other states >it ended up with the land of the Earth being 99.99% being controlled by states >somehow I'm wrong",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490435849 118212297,118226982,2017-03-25 10:03:17,">>118225659 >Nukes are expensive. Modern nukes are about 10 million each depending on warhead, ICBM included. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. For the security they provide, they are very cheap actually. >they will inevitably fuck up the property of someone else You were talking about state invasion, not formation of a state. For a local state the companies would try diplomacy and if they still try expanding and fuck up subscribers in the process all the companies would gang up on them because they have an interest in preventing a state from forming thereby losing territory, reputation and subscribers. >Nukes are retarded and out of question. No. If only one superpower were to have mass nukes, guess what would happen. >an insurer war Wars are expensive. Disputes would get handled by private courts. >to provide more protection for the same price I have no doubt an alliance similar to NATO would exist. But a forced monopoly would be inevitably more expensive and I don't think a bunch of ancaps would take kindly to security now being more expensive, less effective and the loss of freedom. >And you can not do a thing to stop it. Pic related says otherwise.",,Anonymous,g3.jpg,VdNMF+3ky1E/TF5qMjZ9rw==,SI,,1490436197 118212297,118226988,2017-03-25 10:03:25,">>118225856 >Lost because overwhelmed >That's why state is better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490436205 118212297,118227234,2017-03-25 10:06:01,">>118226982 Based firearm choice.",,Anonymous,1293623_1.jpg,zGDxaE9nc/zJabg+7ToANQ==,US,,1490436361 118212297,118227933,2017-03-25 10:13:31,">>118212297 hella my freedom-loving bros",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490436811 118212297,118228196,2017-03-25 10:16:18,"Fucking finally this thread catches on. My fellow Hoppeans, how is your weekend going? Mine's going fine, I'm thinking of doing the new Hoppewave video tomorrow. Any news from that American guy who said he was going to gather all Hoppe OC and links and so something we'd be proud of?",,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1490436978 118212297,118228523,2017-03-25 10:20:05,">>118228196 Thread's looking great.",,Anonymous,1488583912691.png,/jtbl7UQsoomIFq0fpZbKQ==,PT,,1490437205 118212297,118228526,2017-03-25 10:20:07,">>118212297 Hey bros. So how do we kill all communists, SJWs, nazis and the rest of snowflake politics?",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1490437207 118212297,118228625,2017-03-25 10:21:08,">>118226982 >all the companies would gang up on them because they have an interest in preventing a state from forming thereby losing territory, reputation and subscribers. >literally territory, sovereignty and citizens. Why can't you concieve that they will just gang up, enslave their 'subscribers' and make them pay more and more? What interest do they have in maintaining an Ancap society? Courts work only if the people in conflict pay the same court. And you can't force everyone by the will of the majority to listen to to and sustain the same court, cause that would be statist reeee. Otherwise, the person with the stronger insurer will threaten the one with the weaker insurer and will get all his money. Hence syndicates will be made. >>118226988 An overseas state could provide more people than a local ancap society, yes, that's proof that the state was stronger faggot. Also, I don't see many state-free ancap communities around, still displaying muh civil resistance.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490437268 118212297,118228875,2017-03-25 10:23:55,">>118228196 >>118227933 >>118228526 Wassap dudes, I'm telling you these threads only catch when I op super early. I missed /hhh/ yesterday I only ever saw the archive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490437435 118212297,118229087,2017-03-25 10:26:22,">>118228526 with unregulated Nukes",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490437582 118212297,118229246,2017-03-25 10:28:08,">>118212954 Libertarianism is so 2012",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490437688 118212297,118229557,2017-03-25 10:31:16,">>118229246 you're right ancapism is the future",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490437876 118212297,118229673,2017-03-25 10:32:37,,,Anonymous,goy.jpg,PaXdkRb1BkPtFCjkxH8HNg==,GB,,1490437957 118212297,118229796,2017-03-25 10:33:47,">>118229673 >black on blue ONE FUCKING JOB",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490438027 118212297,118229888,2017-03-25 10:34:41,">>118228625 >enslave their 'subscribers' Because this isn't North Korea. People are armed and willing to defend themselves. If you can't be bothered to defend your freedom right now, what makes you think the current state can't go tyrannical? Is the vote gonna save you? >What interest do they have in maintaining an Ancap society? Really? The soldiers and the people paying them in the first place have an interest in maintaining it. >And you can't force everyone by the will of the majority to listen to to and sustain the same court Companies solve disputes privately all the time. And if these courts and judges make bad decisions they get phased out, unlike the current system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEQmuaJeew >person with the stronger insurer will threaten the one with the weaker insurer Again, war is expensive. Why do you think the subscribers would stand for aggression like that? It's a lot of potential damage and who's going to pay for it? States can pay for it by forcing taxpayers into it. Who's going to pay willingly in an ancap society? Gotta go off for a bit.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490438081 118212297,118229975,2017-03-25 10:35:33,"Alright guys, Hoppe is giving a speech on Libertarianism and the Alt-right in September. It would be really cool if we could meme him into public consciousness around these circles some more until then. All publicity is good publicity. I think if we could make the left become aware of him in the meantime and cause controversy would actually help, so to speak.",,Anonymous,1490027661113.jpg,op35mgX+umOfdH8k2ibzZg==,NL,,1490438133 118212297,118230203,2017-03-25 10:37:47,">>118229673 >bastiat,menger,hayek >jewish pick one",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490438267 118212297,118230239,2017-03-25 10:38:06,">>118230203 kike puppets",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490438286 118212297,118230428,2017-03-25 10:40:06,">>118230239 menger invented the austrian school before Mises popularised it and Bastiat was imagining it's roots before everybody and he has no jews behing him try again",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490438406 118212297,118230482,2017-03-25 10:40:36,">>118230428 if it benefits the kikes, it's kike puppetry.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490438436 118212297,118230505,2017-03-25 10:40:49,">>118230428 *behind",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490438449 118212297,118230593,2017-03-25 10:41:56,">>118230482 broofs :DDDDD",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490438516 118212297,118230757,2017-03-25 10:43:39,">>118229975 Meme it hard and obnoxiously. Also send propaganda to r/ansnekistan if you have a plebbit account.",,Anonymous,HOPPE_0.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1490438619 118212297,118230784,2017-03-25 10:43:53,>>118218327,,Anonymous,muhFreedom.jpg,XvIqxjuWqjC3Fnt0hANZSQ==,CA,,1490438633 118212297,118230962,2017-03-25 10:45:47,">>118228875 Yeah, that thread went to shit before it could get off, but I believe it's because of the time zone.",,Anonymous,hhh physical removal.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,PT,,1490438747 118212297,118231013,2017-03-25 10:46:17,">>118212297 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-ancap--------me why did we let the jews win with Muh roads? >ive made a road before on my own property. we need a phrase to combat it sweat of your own brow?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490438777 118212297,118231098,2017-03-25 10:46:59,">>118230784 degenerates dying of their degenerancy nothing wrong with that unless you are an oversensitive faggot",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490438819 118212297,118231114,2017-03-25 10:47:11,,,Anonymous,liberalism-is-a-mental-disease-logo-366x366.jpg,c4N2sktVIwNWXQp5ICVh5g==,FI,,1490438831 118212297,118231162,2017-03-25 10:47:34,">>118213769 Yeah, no. Leftism is cancer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490438854 118212297,118231184,2017-03-25 10:47:45,">>118228523 Sup my preto >>118229975 Indeed. Also notice that Korwin wil also make a speech, entitled ""A Report From Inside the Asylum."" The absolute madmen are going to shit all over the EU, I'm sure.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1490438865 118212297,118231243,2017-03-25 10:48:19,">>118231098 >wild animals are degenerate >wife is degenerate for her husband's smoking your mind is a meme bro",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490438899 118212297,118231247,2017-03-25 10:48:22,">>118224248 Guerilla warfare",,Anonymous,IMG_20170325_104030.jpg,ZGGXZ1jn9snEdjgDmIyurQ==,US,,1490438902 118212297,118231264,2017-03-25 10:48:32,">>118212297 An Anarcho-Capitalist order is one in which city-states, kingdoms, republic and democracies of every kind of system share the world on the basis of mutual recognition of the right of the individuals. It is therefore the synthesis of Antiquity , the Middle Age, and Modernity and therefore the White ideology par excellance.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1490438912 118212297,118231336,2017-03-25 10:49:26,">>118230482 >kikes control states and government-backed corporations >can openly advocate for open borders because the country is publicly-owned and all streets are public >whereas in a natural order ""countries"" would be privately-owned, thus being able to tell kikes to fuck off Wew lad",,Anonymous,guide to ancap.jpg,Ct6y00S0WbVLMPr2fEghgg==,PT,,1490438966 118212297,118231424,2017-03-25 10:50:26,">>118231336 Because the private owners wouldn't implement mudbloods anyway for short-term profitability, knowing they'll die before the consequences hit home.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490439026 118212297,118231434,2017-03-25 10:50:31,">>118231264 Excellent post, based Mussolini.",,Anonymous,nick land.gif,9QNJHrDShg7/A4cFQOH8rw==,PT,,1490439031 118212297,118231488,2017-03-25 10:51:09,">>118231243 no the husband is a degenerate and I don't give a shit about animals",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490439069 118212297,118231666,2017-03-25 10:53:07,">>118212297 >libertarian >RIght pick one. Jewbertarianism is the little sister of communism. Both fail for the exact same reason: they deny human nature.",,Anonymous,controlled_opposition.jpg,Atxnk7g744CwcWdTKQxTig==,US,,1490439187 118212297,118231670,2017-03-25 10:53:13,">>118231488 And it's the wife who dies. Sounds like you're degenerate mon frere",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490439193 118212297,118231786,2017-03-25 10:54:23,">>118224240 More Libertarians need to win local state and county elections.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490439263 118212297,118231847,2017-03-25 10:54:59,">>118231670 the wife dies because of the degenerates habits of the husband taking shitty cigarettes it's his fault",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490439299 118212297,118231889,2017-03-25 10:55:38,,,Anonymous,untitled (2).png,WQxuvZNeJ9U5RMq0vgoOAw==,FI,,1490439338 118212297,118231979,2017-03-25 10:56:30,">>118218504 >different opinions If your opinion is to flood the west with a hundred million shitskins who will then reproduce exponentially, then yes you deserve to get gassed by the RWDS for having that opinion",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490439390 118212297,118232086,2017-03-25 10:57:33,">>118231424 One of the characteristics of democracy, the welfare state and socialism/social-democracy is that the collective time preference rate of the population tends to increase, i.e. people—in the presence of a state, a monopolist of ultimate decision-making and unilateral power to tax—will tend to favor present consumption in detriment of future (and yet more rewarding) consumption. Democracy and socialism create legal uncertainty because Law is no longer restrained to respect for private property or natural law. People are therefore have an incentive to not worry about the future and thus completely disregard the well-being of future generations. Read the first Chapter of Democracy—The God That Failed and come back when you have an actual argument against us.",,Anonymous,you talkin to me.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,PT,,1490439453 118212297,118232248,2017-03-25 10:59:15,">>118231666 >show Rand,Friedman,Rothbard and Mises >not Bastiat and Menger >show only Marx >not Proudhon and Rousseau seems like cherrypicked illiterate propaganda >>118231889 nah there are skull differences between races",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490439555 118212297,118232352,2017-03-25 11:00:23,">>118231847 It's his fault, but he's allowed to do it and his wife dies. Just as it's the mine owner's fault for not cleaning up the waste, chopping up the wilderness, taking away the husband and the animals' freedom to move across the land, and leading to the death of animals. But the mine owner is allowed to do it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490439623 118212297,118232391,2017-03-25 11:00:51,">>118231666 It's the other way around, Mr. Satan. The present paradigm is the one that denies Man's nature. We are denied our right to absolute ownership over our bodies and our justly acquired private property, which results in a relentless scheme of wealth redistribution from the productive members of society downwards to the lowest, filthiest and most rotten characters of society. Read Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490439651 118212297,118232417,2017-03-25 11:01:07,"Anyone else /cryptolibertarian/ here? I'm holding 80 ETH and 1 BTC, buying more soon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490439667 118212297,118232526,2017-03-25 11:02:11,">>118232352 >It's his fault, but he's allowed to do it and his wife dies. and nothing of value was lost because he is retaded",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490439731 118212297,118232998,2017-03-25 11:07:19,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6InUaGbtw8k,,Anonymous,3-format2101.jpg,qvU4gW6gCg4X/csHo7VySg==,AU,,1490440039 118212297,118233050,2017-03-25 11:07:45,">tfw AnCap in a statist society >tfw shills in Trump General want single payer health insurance",,Anonymous,frog why.png,DrS1jQsm8XS0vUKZxMi+/A==,US,,1490440065 118212297,118233159,2017-03-25 11:08:57,">>118232248 >Bastiat and Menger Literally who? >Proudhon and Rousseau Have nothing to do with Marxism, so. >cherrypicked illiterate propaganda Denying Marx, Rand, Friedman, Rothbard, and Mises because some others who lived centuries before weren't mentioned is cherrypicking my illiterate nigger Commie friendo. >>118232391 >It's the other way around Nope, it's exactly as I described it. Communism denies human nature, but initiates so much force via the state it can go for a time without imploding. Lolbertardianism never even manages to exist because its entropy is so severe, it can't even coalesce. The funniest part about all of you is how you try to have fascist aesthetics, worship pseudo-fascist juntas, cheer for your Hoppean virtual denunciations of libertarainism... but you can't quite bring yourselves to face any of the logical conclusions staring you in the face: all your utopian dreams are romantic abstraction, philosophical evasions of reality, and ultimately, cowardly retreats and half measures. You're all such cowards you can't actually bring yourselves to be fascist, even though reality checkmates you with fascist premises. intense_cringe.JPG",,Anonymous,smdhfam.gif,34ISSlvbPh4wUVQo9/73rw==,US,,1490440137 118212297,118233528,2017-03-25 11:12:47,">>118233159 >Lolbertardianism never even manages to exist because its entropy is so severe, it can't even coalesce. It existed throughout America and Western Europe up until World War I when the Fed was created and the war destroyed the monarchies. >The funniest part about all of you is how you try to have fascist aesthetics, worship pseudo-fascist juntas, cheer for your Hoppean virtual denunciations of libertarainism... None of us worship fascist juntas or try to pretend we're anything other than libertarians. We have many memes degrading Nazis too. Also Hoppe does not denounce libertarianism, what the hell are you smoking? >all your utopian dreams are romantic abstraction, philosophical evasions of reality, and ultimately, cowardly retreats and half measures. You're all such cowards you can't actually bring yourselves to be fascist, even though reality checkmates you with fascist premises. Clearly you know nothing of libertarianism or history.",,Anonymous,holy roman empire.png,CWtbYwgPfBbug6DRNImmXQ==,PT,,1490440367 118212297,118233602,2017-03-25 11:13:46,">>118232526 >nothing is important unless I care about it You are the true degenerate mon amis",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490440426 118212297,118233763,2017-03-25 11:15:26,">>118231666 >only what I believe in is human nature Actually, libertarianism, FREEDOM in every way, is human nature. Fascism is exactly the same as communism, the only difference being that communists do it in the name of social justice, and fascists do it in the name of a culture which was accepted by people under threat of violence to begin with.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1490440526 118212297,118233926,2017-03-25 11:17:24,">>118233528 >It existed throughout America and Western Europe up until World War I No, it didn't. Tell the Sons of the Confederacy about their ""libertarian world"", get laughed at, kys. The Americas were hardly settled, and Federalism in the areas that were settled was anything but; wilderness =/= libertarianism, just like conquerors =/= ""immigrants"". >Europe until WWI tell that to the Hapsburgs: Im sure people still pine for the halcyon days of European libertarianism and ""Le Renaissance NAP"" >Clearly you know nothing if you disagree with me ~t. 12 year-old from Reddit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490440644 118212297,118233967,2017-03-25 11:17:53,The resurgence of paleolibertarianism/paleoconservatism on this board make mare heart warm. Been too long.,,Anonymous,chart.png,eq7AesS5drvJfZT0/FX9ag==,US,,1490440673 118212297,118233993,2017-03-25 11:18:15,">>118217948 We get it, your a nascoc who thinks Liberty was invented by jews. Now fuck off and go back to where you belong.",,Anonymous,Back To Stormfront.png,js6ltHNvAYlpcqxaxlR33A==,US,,1490440695 118212297,118234032,2017-03-25 11:18:38,">>118233763 >FREEDOM in every way, is human nature That's why there are so many examples of libertarian FREEDUMB IN EVERY WAY outside of nigger jungles in un-civilized areas that didn't invent the wheel.",,Anonymous,1486538370223.gif,dFi1orq3Cq/uDtvak8hNfA==,US,,1490440718 118212297,118234093,2017-03-25 11:19:16,">>118233159 >Literally who? the ones who created the austrian school of economics and anti-statism >Have nothing to do with Marxism, so. they are literally the inspiration of Marx's work on egalitarianism >Denying Marx, Rand, Friedman, Rothbard, and Mises because some others who lived centuries before weren't mentioned is cherrypicking my illiterate nigger Commie friendo. 1)I am not a communist trash but nice strawman 2)I am not denying them,I am showing that you don't even know the subjects you criticize without knowing who inspired who and that X ideology came from another men and that they are not necessarily Jewish, you are just making shit up you are an intellectual pleb",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490440756 118212297,118234109,2017-03-25 11:19:23,">>118233993 >libertarian >anyone who disagrees isn't allowed here you have to choose",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490440763 118212297,118234196,2017-03-25 11:20:16,">>118234093 >Rousseau created the austrian school of economics That's a nice story, but he still has nothing to do with Marx.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490440816 118212297,118234237,2017-03-25 11:20:42,">>118234032 External freedom is meant to be a compliment to internal freedom Can't become a Saint unless you're free to be a devil",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490440842 118212297,118234326,2017-03-25 11:21:37,">>118234109 I'm free to discriminate against roadcucks like you, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490440897 118212297,118234364,2017-03-25 11:22:02,">>118233926 It did exist in America up until recently you mongoloid. As a matter of fact, the reason why so many pilgrims died in the first years after the settling was because crops were communal property and not private property, and people had no incentive to take care of the crops. It took a dude from England to visit you and attribute the peasants a parcel of land that they used for themselves. And the libertarian tradition of the US was therefore born. >tell that to the Hapsburgs: Im sure people still pine for the halcyon days of European libertarianism and ""Le Renaissance NAP"" A monarchy is better suited than democracy for libertarianism. >~t. 12 year-old from Reddit t. guy who never went past his fascist phase during his early teens",,Anonymous,commie drop.png,16lXUiJDa1n0cALqemu3nw==,PT,,1490440922 118212297,118234387,2017-03-25 11:22:13,">>118234237 >is meant to be just like everything else about lolbertardianism and gommunism: beautiful and fractal abstractions we can LARP inside of for eternity",,Anonymous,1440119609632.gif,P24TjDB5Sm0jid2fpyrCpA==,US,,1490440933 118212297,118234400,2017-03-25 11:22:33,">>118233602 >strawmanning this hard no,what I am saying is that dumb people do dumb shit and die about it and caring about them is being an oversenssitive pussy,I care about my family,my friends,not about some low-IQ retards who die for their degenerates habits",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490440953 118212297,118234478,2017-03-25 11:23:15,">>118234196 He was referring to Carl Menger and Frederic Bastiat, you mongoloid.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490440995 118212297,118234494,2017-03-25 11:23:24,">>118234326 make me leave then nigger, im shitting on your NAPpies and your Hoppies and wiping my ass with your tendies. Make me stop. Make me leave. Go ahead.",,Anonymous,dont_be_mad_ok.gif,ZMLA76dDdmbPGr8U8bZYRw==,US,,1490441004 118212297,118234526,2017-03-25 11:23:44,">>118234478 I know, what do they have to do with Marx, genius?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490441024 118212297,118234545,2017-03-25 11:23:56,">>118234196 can you even read ? Rousseau inspired marx's with his ""we are all equal it's all society fault"" bullshit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490441036 118212297,118234780,2017-03-25 11:26:21,">>118234545 >can you even read ? Obviously not, Im using ESP to know what to say in reply, and which posts are directed at me. >>118234545 >Rousseau inspired marx's with his ""we are all equal it's all society fault"" Marx never mentions Rousseau; and if someone writing that ""egalitarian society is good"" is meant to have led directly to Marx, well, fuck, then Marxism really was inspired by Jesus. Fuck, makes your noggin jog.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490441181 118212297,118234803,2017-03-25 11:26:34,">>118234526 they have to do with Friedman,Rand,Mises and Rothbard because they inspired them stop pretending being white,you are an albino nigger for being this retarded",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490441194 118212297,118234904,2017-03-25 11:27:53,">>118234109 More like anyone who has the shitty arguments that only a stormcuck would fall for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490441273 118212297,118234956,2017-03-25 11:28:22,">>118234494 You leave my tendies out of this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490441302 118212297,118234993,2017-03-25 11:28:45,">>118234803 >retard illiterate retard retard illiterate retard Is this the 10 year old virgins General? I think Charles Comte and Charles Dunoyer had a more direct influence on Marx than Rousseau, don't you think?",,Anonymous,file.png,ciec3hK3X5UR4jjdP4loZg==,US,,1490441325 118212297,118235020,2017-03-25 11:28:59,"FFS I'm getting pissed off here. We should literally treat Nazis and Fascists same as Communists. They should fly from the helicopters too. DO NOT FUCKING TREAD ON ME! I have a right to do whatever I want as long as I'm not impeding someone else's rights.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1490441339 118212297,118235026,2017-03-25 11:29:02,">>118234780 >Marx never mentions Rousseau sure but his ideas were thinking that we're all good human being and that society oppress us come from Rousseau it's like I am saying to you that you are not inspired by nazi germany because you didn't mention Hitler in your post",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490441342 118212297,118235089,2017-03-25 11:29:48,">>118234904 >shitty shitty stupid retard shitty stormcuck REEE get out REEE wew Sotrmcucks are spooks, my property.",,Anonymous,spooky.gif,AdOKWHXANO6bNqq3vK51Gg==,US,,1490441388 118212297,118235153,2017-03-25 11:30:29,">>118235026 >sure but No, no ""but"". You're wrong. Full stop.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490441429 118212297,118235371,2017-03-25 11:32:54,">>118234993 no because Charles Dunnoyer was a propertarian (proto-ancap) and Charles Compte was bro with Jean Bastiste Say who was a classical liberal who inspired basitat",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490441574 118212297,118235470,2017-03-25 11:33:58,">>118234400 >how am I going to get out of this... ""You're strawmanning"" I've been consistently pointing out that it's not the ""dumb"" people who die in the meme.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490441638 118212297,118235501,2017-03-25 11:34:19,">>118235371 >this much damage control lol no. Marx literally plagiarized those two men, genius. Jews are notorious plagiarists.",,Anonymous,814206047_2019824.gif,7Eb9cehKvfmRm6YfkLPgkA==,US,,1490441659 118212297,118235521,2017-03-25 11:34:37,">>118235020 Most ""Nazis"" on this board are further right than Hitler was, and I believe that the focus on NatSoc and ignorance about AnCap is an establishment strategy to suppress the arguments that will work best in the USA to stop the Jewish agenda.",,Anonymous,pinochet awoo.jpg,rsW76pLZIwaumXtGYLZviQ==,US,,1490441677 118212297,118235606,2017-03-25 11:35:32,">>118235371 >>118235501 >arguing about ancient history",,Anonymous,retard frog.jpg,+tOGP2vUBmlMByNRw1WdXw==,US,,1490441732 118212297,118235612,2017-03-25 11:35:33,">>118235153 >YAAAAAAAAAH WHY DO YOU DISAGREE WITH MY VIEWS,DON'T EXPLAIN YOURS I AM TOO LAZY TO COUNTERPOINT THEM YAAAAAH brainlet spotted",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490441733 118212297,118235713,2017-03-25 11:36:42,">>118235521 >ignorance about AnCap Because people disagree with you, doesn't mean they're ignorant; most ""stormcucks"" on this board are former ancaps, just like you. ANd one day, when you're all grown up, you'll be arguing with little kids putting on airs, calling you ""ignorant of libertarainism"" because you disagree with them. This prophecy will come true. See you then.",,Anonymous,trash_hitler.gif,EBj8D5NDJhny01c6uetJZA==,US,,1490441802 118212297,118235743,2017-03-25 11:37:09,">>118235501 >being this butthurt about spewing your bullshit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490441829 118212297,118235813,2017-03-25 11:37:57,">>118235713 actually I was a stormfaggot before becomming ancap",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490441877 118212297,118235820,2017-03-25 11:38:01,">>118235521 Ive read the 25 points of National Socialism, and I am sure that just by reading it. Criticism of the government would be near impossible since you can't publish anything anti-german in the press. Plus the government has the power to decide what is right for the government, which can be easily corrupted into something as semetic as we have today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490441881 118212297,118235951,2017-03-25 11:39:41,">>118235713 No it wont. And even if I grow out of AnCapism, I won't become a stormcuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490441981 118212297,118235963,2017-03-25 11:39:49,">>118235713 >>118235813 I was always a Nazi, I'm an AnCap newfag.",,Anonymous,another frog.jpg,tFTFq5uazS0FdeMYOhnyjQ==,US,,1490441989 118212297,118235975,2017-03-25 11:39:57,">tfw Hoppe will die in your lifetime Not a good feel, lads.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490441997 118212297,118236038,2017-03-25 11:40:43,">>118235470 >smoking unfiltered cigarettes instead of good ones >in front of your wife >suddenly she dies nah he was retarded",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490442043 118212297,118236052,2017-03-25 11:40:52,">>118234387 >natural law is nothing more than an abstraction that has had no value in the past 2500 years of Western Civilization I hate you so god damn much. You don't deserve to post 2d qts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490442052 118212297,118236208,2017-03-25 11:42:26,">>118235521 Exactly. But even if they weren't, Hitler was A FUCKING DICTATOR. That meant that whatever he says goes, even if some people disagree with it. AnCap is perfect because it has no principles, and simply the communities with the best ideology and ethics survive, and the rest either adapt or suffer or die. >>118235713 Nice try, shill, but I was a Nazi when I was a kid, then I grew out of it. AnCap is the ideal form of society and should be the end game for all white people, since it destroys subhumans without any ""racist"" or whatever connotations.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1490442146 118212297,118236244,2017-03-25 11:42:54,so guys I'm gonna start doing the video today. What music should I use as base? I'm trying to go for more of a vaporwave aesthetic this time,,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1490442174 118212297,118236272,2017-03-25 11:43:10,">>118235813 Kek, this. Nazis are economically ignorant until they understand the full implications of an ancap society. They think their volk are above needing to successfully manage resources like immature commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490442190 118212297,118236290,2017-03-25 11:43:22,">>118229246 Anarcho-capitalism is 2017 though. :3",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490442202 118212297,118236327,2017-03-25 11:43:49,">>118236038 >she dies... he was retarded. >>118235470",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490442229 118212297,118236495,2017-03-25 11:45:28,">>118221422 The defense of its citizens it one of a small handful of its primary functions.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490442328 118212297,118236881,2017-03-25 11:49:24,">>118236327 she dies because the dumb husband was retarded by smoking shitty cigarettes in front of her I don't see what are you trying to say to me dumb husband-the wife dies dumb can't into kids-his retarded genes die with him later only the smart survive in the end this is the reason why ashkenazi jews have the highest average IQ,it's because the retarded one didn't have offsprings because of shitty environment in the middle ages",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490442564 118212297,118237003,2017-03-25 11:50:41,">>118235975 >Ron Paul only has another 10 years at best >Rothbard died 22 years ago >Tolkien died 44 years ago >Chesterton died 81 years ago >Lord Acton died 115 years ago >Bastiat died 167 years ago >St. Thomas Aquinas died 696 years ago >Cato the younger died 2051 years ago When will it end?",,Anonymous,Feels-Bad-Man-Frog-02.png,SotO6zWptOGpP/tHOdY20A==,US,,1490442641 118212297,118237368,2017-03-25 11:53:43,">>118223277 This. Private enterprise will try to make the payment method as unobstrusive as possible. It would probably work as some sort of subscription or insurance instead of having to pass toll after toll every day. You don't cut a check every time you send an email, after all.",,Anonymous,privatized-roads-comic.png,ygTvVsoFc0JDvgRTL94XaQ==,ES,,1490442823 118212297,118237584,2017-03-25 11:55:43,">>118226982 >>an insurer war >Wars are expensive. Disputes would get handled by private courts. Not to mention that very little people would contract a security company that constantly kills people. They would lose a ton of customers.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490442943 118212297,118237641,2017-03-25 11:56:14,">>118237368 >ISPs turned out perfectly fine",,Anonymous,mfw.gif,BOeH1Jr/G0WsILgbF6b/pA==,US,,1490442974 118212297,118237680,2017-03-25 11:56:39,">>118237641 regulation",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490442999 118212297,118237858,2017-03-25 11:58:14,">>118237680 monopoly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490443094 118212297,118237940,2017-03-25 11:58:59,">>118237641 ISPs gave those who could distribute them monopolies. There are only a finite number of ISPs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490443139 118212297,118237964,2017-03-25 11:59:16,">>118236881 Nice claims mon pere. There was no indication as to whether or not the husband and wife had children. You should have paid more attention in literature class.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490443156 118212297,118237982,2017-03-25 11:59:27,">>118237858 which can only happen due to regulation",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490443167 118212297,118238143,2017-03-25 12:00:51,">>118237964 the fact that they are married imply that they will in future have children unless one of them is sterile",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490443251 118212297,118238508,2017-03-25 12:04:20,>>118212297,,Anonymous,korwin.jpg,uKcbJgDu2ZxOUhwpZx0v9w==,GB,,1490443460 118212297,118238561,2017-03-25 12:04:43,">>118236244 checked Maybe something like this slowed down six semitones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2IpJszqq7I I also felt ""private caller"" was very libertarian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki-fATpXa00",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490443483 118212297,118238670,2017-03-25 12:05:44,">>118212297 >libertarian >right ayy lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490443544 118212297,118238781,2017-03-25 12:06:49,">>118217948 proof the jewish race is superior.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490443609 118212297,118238787,2017-03-25 12:06:52,">>118238143 Unless they're old and already had children. Also, the ""dumb"" one is not the one who dies. Husband could still have children.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490443612 118212297,118238793,2017-03-25 12:06:55,">>118238670 implying Cuckler National *socialist* was right-wing kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490443615 118212297,118239034,2017-03-25 12:09:09,">>118238787 and he will know eternal suffering because his habits of smoking shitty cigarettes will kill his wifes not my problem",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490443749 118212297,118239213,2017-03-25 12:10:52,I'm a libertarian but i have no answer for the private roads argument. Help,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490443852 118212297,118239301,2017-03-25 12:11:43,">>118212346 >>The Law - Frédéric Bastiat >http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf Could someone recommend a primer for this type of old English? I'm almost certain English wasn't his first language either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490443903 118212297,118239401,2017-03-25 12:12:48,">>118220730 >civic nationalism Into the trash it goes",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490443968 118212297,118239418,2017-03-25 12:12:58,">>118238561 what about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490443978 118212297,118239438,2017-03-25 12:13:09,">>118239034 Not your problem... the point is that absolute freedom always becomes your problem... absolute freedom leads to absolute servitude. The limits we set on each other and ourselves are the basis of socialization. What if the wife who dies is your sister? Think a little bit.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490443989 118212297,118239462,2017-03-25 12:13:27,">>118239213 Accept that balls to the wall libertarianism isn't the answer. You want like, 90% to the wall.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490444007 118212297,118239463,2017-03-25 12:13:26,">>118239401 that's so the normies eat it up.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490444006 118212297,118239521,2017-03-25 12:13:55,">>118239213 https://fee.org/articles/roads-without-the-state/",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490444035 118212297,118239798,2017-03-25 12:16:23,">>118238670 >Socially conservative. >Anti-state. What's your problem?",,Anonymous,1489200410125.png,SMxYnkE6ByYfK61Yn0EHpg==,US,,1490444183 118212297,118239996,2017-03-25 12:18:25,"Been National Socialist since I was born, but joining the military left me completely disillusioned with the government and people in general. Where do I go from here?",,Anonymous,lolbertarian ball.jpg,zJL+LOsCZzqxSsM7TzTJtA==,LT,,1490444305 118212297,118240069,2017-03-25 12:19:06,">>118239438 1)IRL I hate my sister because she a socialist and she is breaking balls of all my family so everyone hate her,not my problem,also If I loved my sister I would not let her marrying a degenerate smoketard 2)""The limits we set on each other and ourselves are the basis of socialization"" doesn't need gubmint intervention 3) ejection of deadly substance on an individual without consent is a violation of the NAP *nukes sound*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490444346 118212297,118240228,2017-03-25 12:20:30,">>118239996 join us we have tax-free cookies",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490444430 118212297,118240234,2017-03-25 12:20:32,">>118239996 Hoppe. Lew. And so on.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490444432 118212297,118240700,2017-03-25 12:24:39,"I just don't get why freedom is a core tenant. The core should be the physical removal of all leftist elements. The natural state of the white man, free from jewish influence, is liberty. White men, freed from leftist influence, would never create a modern welfare state. I wouldn't mind a 90% tax if it ensured free helicopter rides for every single leftist cuck.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490444679 118212297,118240853,2017-03-25 12:26:12,">>118239996 One of the most impacting reads on the state is ""Anatomy of the State"" by Rothbard. Maybe ""For a New Liberty"" later. You can have em: mises.org/library/anatomy-state https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto Anatomy of the State is shorter but eye opening, whereas For a New Liberty is the pillar of the libertarian movement and absolutely mind blowing. >>118240700 >I wouldn't mind slavery as long as slavers I don't like get killed. Said the slave.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490444772 118212297,118241085,2017-03-25 12:28:27,">>118240700 >I wouldn't mind a 90% tax if it ensured free helicopter rides for every single leftist cuck. dude you just killed innovation,your GDP and everything what made the white man the master race for being a militaro-industrial complex slave lmao",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490444907 118212297,118241125,2017-03-25 12:28:59,">>118239418 That's good too, it may sound better slowed three semitones.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490444939 118212297,118241148,2017-03-25 12:29:10,">>118240700 And how do you think leftists would get influence without democracy? It's much easier when you can promise people stolen goodies at zero risk of retaliation.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490444950 118212297,118241450,2017-03-25 12:32:18,">>118240700 So basically, you wouldn't mind getting enslaved, as long as your owner shares some of your values. No, fascism is just as bad as communism, perhaps slightly less so because it makes so many enemies, especially abroad, it will always invariably get destroyed within a decade or two.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1490445138 118212297,118241652,2017-03-25 12:34:09,">>118241148 >>118240853 I'm paying 70% income tax and live comfortably. 25% on consumption. Physical removal would bring about a higher net gain in happiness than would tax removal. I'm rather a slave to white men than free and ""equal"" with mongrels.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490445249 118212297,118241690,2017-03-25 12:34:34,"3/4 done with EEPP. Holy fuck the few pages that go deep in philosophy, didn't expect that, had to reread it a few times. Can't wait to read democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490445274 118212297,118241806,2017-03-25 12:35:43,">>118241652 >I'm rather a slave to white men than free and ""equal"" with mongrels. You don't have to be either. That's not what ancap is about. Freedom and equality are not the same things.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490445343 118212297,118241833,2017-03-25 12:35:56,">>118241652 >I'm paying 70% income tax and live comfortably. 25% on consumption. no you are feeding niggers right now >I'm rather a slave to white men than free and ""equal"" with mongrels. freedom means also that you don't have to live with mongrels",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490445356 118212297,118242304,2017-03-25 12:40:07,">>118241125 Ok. And this will be the image for Germanbro to put in the video.",,Anonymous,hoppewave 2.png,wzLdLEqnymrgdG9vgtX76A==,PT,,1490445607 118212297,118242610,2017-03-25 12:42:51,">>118241833 >>118241806 I can have both, got it. Why do you place such merit on freedom to the point that you consider those that advocate for physical removal through state intervention is not your allies then? What rights to you imagine a fascist regime would infringe upon you and how would it adversely affect your well being?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490445771 118212297,118242613,2017-03-25 12:42:52,">>118231666 Oh god, another retarded.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490445772 118212297,118242699,2017-03-25 12:43:40,">>118236244 witnessed video about what mr tuga?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490445820 118212297,118242959,2017-03-25 12:46:07,"Do you view libertarianism as a society that should be achieved, or an ideal that society should strive towards? I don't think a true libertarian society will ever really be achieved. The state will continuously wish to grow itself and I feel libertarianism should mainly be the force that continuously holds the state back.",,Anonymous,1435613518316.gif,TNnOooIRci0isv8g+L+keA==,US,,1490445967 118212297,118243095,2017-03-25 12:47:18,">>118242610 >What rights to you imagine a fascist regime would infringe upon you and how would it adversely affect your well being? >How is getting put in a death camp for ""extremist opinions"" inconvenient to you?",,Anonymous,1473363081661.gif,3OqMn9uqw/rlpBN/ssrxmQ==,SI,,1490446038 118212297,118243288,2017-03-25 12:49:10,">>118242699 The new Hoppewave video, son. This was the first one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ&index=4&list=PLeSzCLch6OHZ3X9KuHW1NUS-r0T5uWTmp",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490446150 118212297,118243769,2017-03-25 12:53:45,">>118242959 The state grew to its current size due to specific conditions that happened during industrialism, such as high natural resource content industry and immovility of capital that favored predatory taxation. States don't just grow and merge with others ""just because"", there are some conditions that have to be there for that to happen, and those conditions are rapidly disappearing as we come close to the information age. Information technology is laready causing the taxing capacity of nation states to plunge as assets are information-based and tax evasion is extremely easy as compared to the past. Since the second half of the 20th century the tendency has been towards decentralization and fragmentation of sovereignties. You can look it up for yourself. In the 20th century 14 empires have dissolved and new jurisdictions have appeared everywhere, and nationalist movements are sprouting everywhere in what once were considered stable nation states. Make-believe is a very characteristic thing of this kind of transition stages, this is why there is going to be a lot of denial about this fact but if you research it it's the pure truth.",,Anonymous,capt25.jpg,A1/fHvqcmvD35tYNQs2eQQ==,ES,,1490446425 118212297,118243869,2017-03-25 12:54:34,"(((>>118239463))) >that's so the normies eat it up.",,Anonymous,1489809117654.png,o12JSUpOcTYrq8YlZgbtug==,AU,,1490446474 118212297,118244059,2017-03-25 12:56:19,">>118239521 Hmm, seems like a good argument. I liked that, nice read... Do you think it would be possible to remove the gas tax and move it to toll roads? I mean how would you toll the road I live in? Pic related, it's very short and has no more than 8 houses in it. How would the price of the road be managed? It would cost much more than a 2-5 dollar toll since highways depend on massive traffic.",,Anonymous,images (35).jpg,DuyJyS2v6M/Wx7KB9EgZ6Q==,US,,1490446579 118212297,118244307,2017-03-25 12:58:27,">>118243869 Honestly, if there were no laws against segregation, whites would organically deny services and goods (ie rent) to niggers who always fuck shit up. An organic ethno state with no deaths that still allows for functioning non-whites.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490446707 118212297,118244406,2017-03-25 12:59:14,">>118244059 Community roads like this would likely be maintained by a home-owners association (as they already are).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490446754 118212297,118244468,2017-03-25 12:59:54,">>118244307 You don't even have to go that far to prove the point that auto-segregation happens. Just look at churches or any other social meetings where inclusion is not forced upon people by the state. It's all exclusively one color, like Jared Taylor says. People auto-segregate.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490446794 118212297,118245467,2017-03-25 13:09:26,Make this man Brazil's next Prsident. His name is Dr. Rey. He promises to end leftism and free up the markets.,,Orlando de Moraes Féria,17495397_10209219069009306_1219646924_n.png,kPC2Srx+r6qBN5Jqf48pSA==,BR,,1490447366 118212297,118245554,2017-03-25 13:10:14,">>118244059 Well, today you could just place an electronic dispositive underneath the car that would identify you and you could pass the toll without really stopping and at the end of the month you would receive the bill or the ""road subscription insurance"" would pay it for you and you would pay a fixed monthly fee. This of course is all an especulation, the market could develop in many different ways, but one could argue that inconvenient methods like stop toll booths would probably not be as prominent because customers wouldn't like it. And also >>118244406, though I think this would rather apply only to roads inside private communities. For example this is the system they use in Atlantic Station, the privatized city. If you really want to read about the closest thing we have gotten today to a private law society you should totally read about that. This is an experiment that is beginning to be replicated in many many countries and it's working wonderfully. fee.org/articles/how-policing-works-in-a-privatized-city/",,Anonymous,Captura de pantalla - 250317 - 18:09:42.png,dlvbOrELwd6nGMZS9nSLPw==,ES,,1490447414 118212297,118245944,2017-03-25 13:13:51,">>118244406 Homes owners associations are absolute trash though, they charge you monthly subscription and you get absolutely nothing in return, actually you get tickets if you park IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE and not in your driveway, shit happens to my uncle all the time. If we had toll roads and stuff, I'd be more okay with them, but homeowner associations seem like some collectivist socialist bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490447631 118212297,118246087,2017-03-25 13:15:18,">>118233967 Indeed it has.",,Orlando de Moraes Féria,,,BR,,1490447718 118212297,118247009,2017-03-25 13:23:57,">>118245554 >you could just place an electronic dispositive underneath the car that would identify you and you could pass the toll without really stopping In Slovenia you buy a sticker that you put on the windshield. If the state can manage to find an easy solution, companies can as well.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490448237 118212297,118247026,2017-03-25 13:24:05,">>118242610 because fascist condemn for opinions we physically remove for actions",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490448245 118212297,118247162,2017-03-25 13:25:22,To refute all you fascist fucks on this thread: http://www.alwayslibertyblog.com/2017/03/24/the-fascist-tarian-dilemma/,,Orlando de Moraes Féria,,,BR,,1490448322 118212297,118247369,2017-03-25 13:27:12,>>118232783,,Orlando de Moraes Féria,,,BR,,1490448432 118212297,118247400,2017-03-25 13:27:32,">>118217218 Can you tell how snek will fund his helicopter mataince and fuel without taxation",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490448452 118212297,118247471,2017-03-25 13:28:13,">>118243769 as Senator Armstrong said ""nano-machines,son""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490448493 118212297,118247809,2017-03-25 13:31:25,">>118223198 Physically remove 75% of the population",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490448685 118212297,118247837,2017-03-25 13:31:37,,,Orlando de Moraes Féria,nazis-i-hate-these-guys1.jpg,JU+9JiVpfSN+it578IaJ4Q==,BR,,1490448697 118212297,118248427,2017-03-25 13:37:16,Are libertarians white and anti-Semitic?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490449036 118212297,118248607,2017-03-25 13:38:57,Is a libertarian society democratic? What if the people in a libertarian society don't consent to paying for roads?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490449137 118212297,118248630,2017-03-25 13:39:09,">>118248427 >White Mostly. >Anti-Semitic As long as the semites violate NAP, yes. I don't think they'll ever stop so yes.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490449149 118212297,118248662,2017-03-25 13:39:27,Here's a comic that explains why libertarianism is wrong.,,Anonymous,anongetstrickedtw(..).png,bvGLA9S8QNjuQmhqDO5iQg==,RO,,1490449167 118212297,118248903,2017-03-25 13:41:28,">>118248662 simbly ebin :DDD",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490449288 118212297,118248912,2017-03-25 13:41:32,">>118212297 Libertarianism has nothing to do with ancap or voluntarism. Libertarianism: the belief that taxation is theft, but that having less theft is fine and totally not morally hypocritical. You're a hypocritical douche if you don't take it to its full end. Voluntarism remains the ONLY political ideology that is not morally hypocritical.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490449292 118212297,118249050,2017-03-25 13:42:35,">>118212297 ancap as fuck, physical removal soon",,Anonymous,1490387505340.jpg,FlSH1OHZ0nnUAsD2+dLcUg==,US,,1490449355 118212297,118249201,2017-03-25 13:43:54,">>118244468 Mabye in America but here in the edge of London the churches are 50/50 black white even though blacks are only 20% of where I am. Auto segregation is a meme . Look at the multiracial fuckfest of Brazil",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490449434 118212297,118249215,2017-03-25 13:44:00,">>118248427 they can the ideology is not rooted on it but it doesn't stop it members being like this personally I don't trust Jews and I will obviously discriminate them of my private property because culture of critique etc... but if another libertarian has no problem with them,I wouldn't mind that,maybe try to convince him but there would be no coercion also there was proto-ancaps before Rothbard because this ideology isn't necessarily Jewish but mainly popularized by them as many others ideology (even antisemitism) because they are mainly an intellectual focused race",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490449440 118212297,118249637,2017-03-25 13:47:33,>this is what authoritarians actually think,,Anonymous,authoritarianslul.png,w7ikULnNHUPfV/W5SK4lZA==,US,,1490449653 118212297,118249741,2017-03-25 13:48:32,">>118248912 this anon gets it",,Anonymous,10502469_10152611644447318_3247855372975049344_n.jpg,kBDCtfB3nZDCzqkwJyX9mg==,BE,,1490449712 118212297,118249924,2017-03-25 13:50:03,">>118249201 I didn't know that. Regardless, I'm sure that most inclusion stems from forced inclusion by the state through non-discrimination laws.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490449803 118212297,118249979,2017-03-25 13:50:38,">>118249637 >authoritarians think ancap claims to remove aggression from people Are they this silly? Ancap simply allows for rapid, efficient response to unmerited violence. If they honestly believe 1) the state can be trusted to only punish the guilty, and 2) stealing money/time from people to try and jail people that should be killed on the spot when caught red-handed, is somehow preferable... then they're Olympic-tier mental gymnasts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490449838 118212297,118250072,2017-03-25 13:51:27,">>118248912 i'm an an-cap but i think you can still be intellectually sophisticated and want a small government like Robert Nozick in ""Anarchy, State and Utopia"" and Frederic Bastiat in ""The Law"" with regard to social contract theory that government is instituted to secure natural rights of life, liberty and property so government and taxation is ok for those ends but for nothing else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490449887 118212297,118250245,2017-03-25 13:53:03,">>118249637 oh my god that's a whole level of retardation also I have another exemple to trigger authoritarians faggot based on this exemple ""If a robber breaks into your house,racket you but give this money for his sick daughter,is it moral ?"" If he says no you can say he is an hypocrite because if he support free healthcare it's the same thing but on another level If he says yes then you can explain how it's counter productive,imply that you can rob him if it's giving this shit for charity,ethics of argumentation etc...",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490449983 118212297,118250438,2017-03-25 13:55:01,">>118250072 >social contract theory Completely invalid if there's no habitable land on Earth not governed by a force-initiating state. There is nowhere survivable I can live without being regulated against my will. Necessarily, this means I do not ultimately have the choice that would be implicit in the ""tacit consent"" argument. ""Sophistication"" doesn't get you out of being a hypocrite. If property is a right, and that's the stated ideology of the proposed system, it's hypocritical if it demands taxes of its citizens. The only way to argue for something like this is subjective morality, which is inherently self-defeating.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490450101 118212297,118250612,2017-03-25 13:56:30,">>118249979 >Olympic-tier mental gymnasts Of course they are. Like all socialists when you criticize their precious state they will immediately strawman because they know if you go into reason they will fail. Doesn't matter how reasonable they are in other areas. So they cling to their shitty beliefs because they think it's in their best interest. And they won't give you an inch. That's why the ""taxation is theft"" bait works so well. It's blatant theft yet these people will argue for days that it's somehow moral. It's not even a matter of a necessary evil, it just becomes a moral thing to do to them.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490450190 118212297,118250631,2017-03-25 13:56:42,"Authoritarians >children can't Consent because they don't understand I agree and... >people can't consent to a social contract if they don't understand it either",,Anonymous,image.jpg,Nyrb0MvTiGJaqPr3tyLMrw==,US,,1490450202 118212297,118251373,2017-03-25 14:03:35,">>118219718 He does a great job of cutting through the uppermost layer of bullshit in the news. And he has a military tough guy family man persona, so he has the potential to redpill a lot of right-wing normies to the liberty cause",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490450615 118212297,118251684,2017-03-25 14:06:45,">>118212297 reporting with millitary snek",,Anonymous,lBNuWQ0.jpg,jLagndkM4msHvco0tDdnwQ==,TR,,1490450805 118212297,118251808,2017-03-25 14:07:55,">>118234364 Honest question: who would lead the monarchy then? Would it be something like the HRE?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490450875 118212297,118252309,2017-03-25 14:12:41,">>118251808 Isn't it obvious?",,Anonymous,when_the_private_police_asks_you_where_you_were_the_night_the_town_communist_was_found_dead_floating_on_the_ocean.jpg,3aAie9mBpk9j94NUQkRqEg==,US,,1490451161 118212297,118252501,2017-03-25 14:14:29,">>118252309 I'd have no problems with this Question is: what do when dead?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490451269 118212297,118252711,2017-03-25 14:16:24,">>118250438 i think most an-caps have alot of respect for nozick and bastiat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490451384 118212297,118252825,2017-03-25 14:17:22,">>118252711 Okay. How does that in any way challenge the arguments I've presented?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490451442 118212297,118252919,2017-03-25 14:18:15,">>118252825 He's agreeing with you, learn to take a compliment.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490451495 118360932,118360932,2017-03-26 09:23:55,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1490520235 118360932,118360996,2017-03-26 09:24:41,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1490520281 118360932,118361113,2017-03-26 09:26:07,,,Anonymous,1490497922527.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,US,,1490520367 118360932,118361587,2017-03-26 09:31:51,,,Anonymous,1486946543481.png,UwEgI5kjnW5UGhN24uroJA==,US,,1490520711 118360932,118361651,2017-03-26 09:32:36,">>118360932 I see you've already uploaded my new video, thanks!",,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1490520756 118360932,118362052,2017-03-26 09:37:23,">>118361651 Right on. I've got some video ideas myself and will be working on some smaller projects.",,Anonymous,Libertarian_Party_Adress.png,TvEVw7P6B2cQnbN+yn7H1Q==,US,,1490521043 118360932,118362564,2017-03-26 09:43:14,">>118362052 Nice image. There's some errors, tho: line 12 should be oppose instead of appose; line 16, you forgot the ""be"" in ""not to be respected""; and the Hoppe quote is ""...physically separated and expelled from society."" Other than that I love it. Good job. What video ideas are you thinking of?",,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1490521394 118360932,118362591,2017-03-26 09:43:35,,,Anonymous,1490140529536.jpg,aThGpkXG8xi+q76M+EbJ8A==,US,,1490521415 118360932,118362611,2017-03-26 09:43:47,"Ok help me out. What does ancap break down to ? How would you hold ""society"" (if that still existed in your world) together ?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490521427 118360932,118362694,2017-03-26 09:44:43,">>118362611 Oh right its not ancap ? its libertarian right thingy. I'm sorry, I misread. But still, question holds",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490521483 118360932,118362849,2017-03-26 09:46:38,">>118362611 >>118362694 Anarcho-capitalism boils down to the removal of the state—a territorial monopolist of ultimate decision-making (legislation) and taxation—, which is to be replaced by freely-financed insurance and defense companies with the sole purpose of protecting private property. It all boils down to property rights; and libertarians who are not anarcho-capitalists are inconsistent in their beliefs.",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1490521598 118360932,118362983,2017-03-26 09:48:11,">>118362564 Yeah I fucked it up a bit im fixing it. I wanted to make a video showcasing the libertarian party cringe clips like aleppo, naked guy, multicultural jew guy and then the hoppe revolution, ancap/antifa battles and other glory. pretty much killing off the older commietarians and replace them with us.",,Anonymous,C6GfhvVUwAECmr1.jpg,zW+d9XwOdpST2016gzeDDQ==,US,,1490521691 118360932,118363283,2017-03-26 09:51:37,">>118360932 feels good being in a general with real discussion and debate and not shitposting also hella bros",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490521897 118360932,118363363,2017-03-26 09:52:28,">>118361651 Hail Hoppewave!",,Anonymous,pic3.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,DE,,1490521948 118360932,118363422,2017-03-26 09:53:00,">>118362849 I see. So it's ... in principle something good. What place would religious institutions have in that society ? Because I could imagine that having some ""morally superior"" (pls don't crucify me for that, I lacked a better word) institution that, at the same time, nourishes the peoples' (or some at least) spiritual desires, could still benefit the people ... or is that just my biased view ? I think my view of ""ANARCHO""-capitalism is pretty much biased from the punk-type interpretation of ""anarchy"" ... kinda",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490521980 118360932,118363638,2017-03-26 09:55:25,">>118363422 addition: Or would religion just not be something institutionalized anymore ? (like ""abandoning the Church in general but have something localized"" so to speak)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490522125 118360932,118363814,2017-03-26 09:57:44,">>118362849 I feel being ideologically consistent counts for too much in the ancap worldview. It keeps you guys from addressing soberly some of the real problems with the model. I sympathize with the sentiment behind it, mind you. There's just to many brown people in the world. :/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490522264 118360932,118363914,2017-03-26 09:58:51,">>118363422 >>118363638 religious institution are 100% independent and (in principle) all the religion based on voluntarism are accepted (aka Islam is fucked) You can join the religion and you can preach for it by using non-aggressive means AKA the contrary of leftist anarchist who wants all religion being destroyed (like capitalism) because somehow it oppress you",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490522331 118360932,118363959,2017-03-26 09:59:23,">>118363422 I'm bringing up the ""morality"" thing not for the sake of religious discussion but, because in theory ancap would allow for shit like gross pedo shit and so on as far as I've understood it ... correct me if I'm wrong.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490522363 118360932,118364198,2017-03-26 10:02:09,">>118363638 The churches would probably exist exactly as they do today, they are mostly privately owned and funded by donations. >>118363959 Potentially It could but would most likely be hated by most communities and shunned into dark corners of the world-just like it is now. I don't dont think you'd have rampant pedos. its not the state that makes us hate pedos, we just hate pedos.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490522529 118360932,118364207,2017-03-26 10:02:17,">>118363914 I see. So to conclude my small set of questions, which one of the books would you recommend reading first ? Judging from the ""excitement level"" of the titles, I'd start with Hoppes' ""Democracy - The God that Failed"" or ""Anatomy of the State""",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490522537 118360932,118364254,2017-03-26 10:02:46,">>118360932 God I am sick of the statists on this fucking forum. Trump worshippers, anti-abortionists, ethnoreligious zealots, border control tards. Fucking keep your government paws off people minding their own business.",,Anonymous,trump1.jpg,qYTvx3zvSEzgUcOpuPoKqg==,US,,1490522566 118360932,118364332,2017-03-26 10:03:30,">>118364207 >which one of the books would you recommend reading first ? this one",,Anonymous,ethics2.jpg,mwFOmmEjxJ/VkVmZdRib4Q==,US,,1490522610 118360932,118364337,2017-03-26 10:03:34,">>118360932 I would add ""No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority"" by Lysander Spooner to the list.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490522614 118360932,118364404,2017-03-26 10:04:07,">>118363422 >morally superior Moral decay comes from the welfare state. If people don't have a state to fall back on for absolutely everything then the importance of family and community is elevated. So I'd presume religion would become very influential in many communities. >>118363814 Who's importing human trash into Europe with taxpayer money? Who's fighting tooth and nail to stop Trump from limiting immigration?",,Anonymous,Hoppe welfare state.jpg,9OsTh47MiKXf/yO/lfA3Dw==,SI,,1490522647 118360932,118364427,2017-03-26 10:04:25,">>118364207 Anatomy of the state is a good read.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490522665 118360932,118364520,2017-03-26 10:05:19,">>118363959 The thing about the Hoppe branch in particular is the right of free association and discrimination. Communities will be formed by like minded people, so you would have Christian only gated communities. Because the owner of the community can decide what is done on his property, he can create rules how he sees fit, forbidding homosexuality, adultery, etc, but only within the borders of his community. Degenerates won't be allowed into society, since everybody has the right to exclude these lowlifes from one's property, nobody can force you to be tolerant and inclusive.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490522719 118360932,118364569,2017-03-26 10:05:43,>>118360932,,Anonymous,1489864607217.jpg,+JnAHjdxQjg1t8UbRG3Ggg==,CH,,1490522743 118360932,118364658,2017-03-26 10:06:54,">>118364207 first ""anatomy of the state"" so you could get it for what ancapism stands for,then the ""ethics of liberty"" for going deeper in the idea,then ""democracy the god that failed"" for the apex",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490522814 118360932,118364699,2017-03-26 10:07:21,"All nonhoppean lolbergs need to grow up. All the ""fast food and immigration"" ancaps need to be gassed.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490522841 118360932,118364941,2017-03-26 10:10:10,">>118364427 This. It blew my mind. It's also an easy and short read.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490523010 118360932,118364973,2017-03-26 10:10:27,">>118364699 That's the spirit! those fags believe in public borders and are dont understand private property",,Anonymous,AnarcoCanadianism.png,PT7LTE19cU1x/SSnjlrcJA==,US,,1490523027 118360932,118365079,2017-03-26 10:11:26,">>118364973 >and are dont shit im retarded i meant ""and dont""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490523086 118360932,118365195,2017-03-26 10:12:35,">>118364699 Those AnCaps are as childish as Antifaggots. They want Anarchy for anarchy sake. They ignore the issue of what comes after that. They are just LARPers who don't want to be asscociated with violent lefties. And democratic libertarians are just socialists in disguise, just look at all the ""classic liberal"" parties all over Europe, who bend over for the welfare state, taxes and state interference.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490523155 118360932,118365213,2017-03-26 10:12:46,"I posted this in an Ancap thread yesterday but no one was able to answer me: If in your Ancap society I hire someone to work on my property, that person more likely than not has to cross other people's properties (land, air, or even sea) in order to even arrive at my property. What stops these people from either outright killing my employee, or demanding an exhorbitant fee for the right to pass through their property?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490523166 118360932,118365270,2017-03-26 10:13:30,>>118364699,,Anonymous,1486168300130.png,a0Td5yItUMJ6QHaV4jE6ug==,PT,,1490523210 118360932,118365410,2017-03-26 10:15:13,">>118365213 The properties would most likely be connected by privately owned streets (still property like you said). People will demand a toll, but it would be stupid to make it so high that you couldn't or wouldn't want to pay it, since than it wouldn't be used and give you no profit. If somebody did this, people could see the opportunity, build an alternative street and make it way cheaper, having the profit all for themselves.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490523313 118360932,118365422,2017-03-26 10:15:19,"Thank you guys. Maybe one last thing - and not to spark a shitshow, just out of curiosity: What do you think could be downsides of that ? I mean from a general point of view. I can't think of too much beside the ""mimimi civilized things and le shitlords""-thing. But I'm, too, not quite education in that particular field. >>118365195 FDP seems to be a good example for that. Actually supported them but nowadays they're like >EVERYTHING POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE AND LETS ENFORCE IT VIA LAWS ;DDDDDDDDDDDDD",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490523319 118360932,118365432,2017-03-26 10:15:18,">>118363422 > What place would religious institutions have in that society? Probably greater than now because they are organic community assemblies. >Because I could imagine that having some ""morally superior"" (pls don't crucify me for that, I lacked a better word) institution that, at the same time, nourishes the peoples' (or some at least) spiritual desires, could still benefit the people ... or is that just my biased view ? I'm not sure I get what you're saying, but it's entirely possible that some churches or religious institutions advocated some sort of political goal. If that goal only encompassed peaceful ways and freedom of association, like a religious covenant, that'd be perfectly fine; if it advocated violence (global Muslim caliphate), the insurance agencies would be ready to kill them since having a global Muslim caliphate with property expropriation would make premiums rise and enormous indemnification payments. >>118363814 We're not at all people who say we won't vote for anyone but Ron Paul. Murray Rothbard (the godfather of anarcho-capitalism, who actually coined the term) supported Strom Thurmond, David Duke and Patrick Buchanan. Read his article on right-wing populism: http://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html >>118364207 I started dealing with anarcho-capitalism with Democracy. If you want a more broad and encompassing view of the world by Hoppe and other ancaps you should read his A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline, and then move on to Democracy. If you're interested in the philosophical nitty-gritty of things, read his Economics and Ethics of Private Property.",,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1490523318 118360932,118365540,2017-03-26 10:16:46,">>118365213 1)why they would do that shit ? 2)if the employer knew where does his employee come from he would normally try to know if others people property would let him pass because in another way around that would be a waste of money",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490523406 118360932,118365565,2017-03-26 10:16:59,,,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1490523419 118360932,118365638,2017-03-26 10:17:55,">>118365270 Soory alberto barbosa already natsoc",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490523475 118360932,118365644,2017-03-26 10:17:57,">>118365422 A big problem is the transition into the system. People needed to get into the whole ""do it yourself and use opportunities of profit"" thinking. A way of avoiding this problem could be a transitional form of minimal government, in which a Mostly, since the government still exists) free market is guaranteed. People could accomodate before enetering Hoppe mode.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490523477 118360932,118365657,2017-03-26 10:18:05,">>118365213 If a community wants to be secluded from society I think it's their right to do so. Like the Amish I guess. But I don't see it being wide spread. It's advantageous to just turn people away for no reason. >killing my employee The amount of secluded communities would be small. The amount of such that would disregard proportionality would be even more so.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490523485 118360932,118365734,2017-03-26 10:18:54,">>118365657 *It's not advantageous Derp",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490523534 118360932,118365785,2017-03-26 10:19:27,">>118365422 Also, I have to agree on FDP. The old FDP used to be really based, the were legitimatly libertarian but still had conservative values. Nowadays they are nothing more than egalitarian bootlickers who'd even enter a coalition with literal commies. A damn shame.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490523567 118360932,118365842,2017-03-26 10:20:01,">>118365213 Streets would most likely be open to pretty much anyone but for outright criminals and vandals since having autistic restrictions on movement to that level would rise the costs of economic transactions by a bunch. So it's highly unlikely that there would be checkpoints at every street corner or passing. If there were though, people could simply complain, stop using them, or appealing to the owner(s). The restrictions of free movement really only come about in neighborhoods and covenants designed to specifically protect a given set of ideas.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1490523601 118360932,118365930,2017-03-26 10:20:59,">>118365422 first we need to make a metapolitical changing,if it's not the case during the transition of regime we unironically reach the ""ancapistan"" meme,redpilling masses of people is needed first",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490523659 118360932,118365953,2017-03-26 10:21:21,Hey does anyone have some dank transparent pngs of hoppe to make a collage for a hoppewave pic?,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490523681 118360932,118366033,2017-03-26 10:22:14,">>118365644 Checked. And yes, Hoppe says we should all support any and every separatist, anti-state, populist movements and uprisings designed to take away power from the state. He says that even if a free society is not achievable, then we should strive for a world of hundreds of thousands of classically-liberal states in competition with one another for clients and united through free trade.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490523734 118360932,118366088,2017-03-26 10:23:00,Rapture WHEN ?,,Anonymous,beyondthesea.jpg,snFGATNhvrPY+oMuq31zxw==,NO,,1490523780 118360932,118366104,2017-03-26 10:23:10,">>118365953 none pre made but I could cut one out for you if you want send it over.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490523790 118360932,118366209,2017-03-26 10:24:17,>>118365953,,Anonymous,1488747927597.png,bS/n+OcobuxGJq2Hs6uasQ==,PT,,1490523857 118360932,118366312,2017-03-26 10:25:23,">>118365195 If you want no government at all, wouldn't it make more sense to first strive to minimize its role piecemeal. Ancaps put a lot of people off who might otherwise be receptive to minarchist ideas.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490523923 118360932,118366331,2017-03-26 10:25:37,">>118364404 Sorry breh, I forgot about your post. I think I agree with that. So it's in principle: Private (in a sense of not-institutionalized) charity - yes Institutionalized welfare: nono That seems quite reasonable anyway",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490523937 118360932,118366396,2017-03-26 10:26:22,r8 my compass lads,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170305-114808.png,GoU4IcfpZKoYm010TNGPUg==,GB,,1490523982 118360932,118366429,2017-03-26 10:26:42,How would Ancaps deal with people like me who would want White Christian communes we enforce the death penalty within our community and such,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490524002 118360932,118366563,2017-03-26 10:28:12,">>118366033 Exactly, supporting people like Trump, front national or AfD is necessary. They might be protectionists and in favor of state interventionism (at least to some degree), but they have the potential of weakening the status quo. Supporting anti establishment parties and movements is always the better alternative than virtue signaling by voting nonsensical alternatives like Gary Memeston or ""libertarian"" parties for the sake of looking libertarian. Aleppo might be a bad example, since he isn't even a libertarian but you catch my drift. Also, seperatism and secessionism are indeed a wonderful way of minimzing state power, I hope it will see a rise across the world. Also chzeched, dear portubro.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490524092 118360932,118366571,2017-03-26 10:28:19,">>118366312 Yeah but if you start removing goverment at defense and borders while you still have welfare and taxes and other federal control you're an idiot. people will barge into your country and take your gibs and vote for more goverment action in favor of themselves. growing the overall size of the states power.",,Anonymous,1468971115820.jpg,wKQ82Nn20MrA025IjW+R8g==,US,,1490524099 118360932,118366722,2017-03-26 10:29:57,,,Anonymous,Flag2 - Fort Moultrie.gif,UmRbnZPIJQmrrNoZiQ23yw==,AT,,1490524197 118360932,118366781,2017-03-26 10:30:36,">>118366396 Send us the link for that test lad",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490524236 118360932,118366854,2017-03-26 10:31:22,">>118366312 >>118365644 Like I said here, a temoprary minarchistic system is probably needed and welcomed, since a raw transition wouldn't realistically be possible. The thing is, minarchism is inherently anti democratic, since it opposes democracy's bureaucratism and the possibility to change the libertarian frame work of the minimal state, so convincing people of that could be quite a challenge aswell, since everybody has been spoonfed democracy=freedom since birth.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490524282 118360932,118366887,2017-03-26 10:31:45,">>118366563 Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. Although I'm not sure if Hoppe says we must spoort LITERALLY all separatist movements, since some are espoused by commies (like here in Portugal). I think he wants a balance of anti-statism with right-wing economic policies. Not sure what he thinks of Trump or Le Pen, but given that the mad man has written things that would make Gary Johnson or Jeffrey Cucker vomit, he might love them. Hoppe will be giving a speech at this year's PFS called ""Libertarianism and the alt-right,"" so I'm interested to see whether or not he can pick up the nuanced relationship between the two.",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1490524305 118360932,118366899,2017-03-26 10:31:51,">>118366396 >state capitalism >on the left the fuck ? also greetings my un-spooked friend",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490524311 118360932,118367069,2017-03-26 10:33:45,">>118366887 Oh, when is that going to go down ? I'm definitely interested.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490524425 118360932,118367090,2017-03-26 10:34:02,">>118366429 I'm sure we'd say go for it, although the death penalty would most likely have to be boiled down to murder or something heinous, since most insurance agencies wouldn't sign contracts with you if you wanted for every criminal to be executed on the spot.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490524442 118360932,118367100,2017-03-26 10:34:09,">>118366429 if the people joined your commune voluntarily no problem since you have the right to discriminate anybody of your private property",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490524449 118360932,118367212,2017-03-26 10:35:18,">>118367069 http://propertyandfreedom.org/ You can find everything here. Even Korwin is speaking, absolute mad man.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1490524518 118360932,118367264,2017-03-26 10:35:53,">>118366429 I basically asked this question above, if you want to skim through the answers",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490524553 118360932,118367304,2017-03-26 10:36:23,">>118366331 Correct. >>118366429 If you enforce laws on your own property no matter how harsh the penalties, I don't think people will interfere. You could get communities that would stop trading with you I suppose and you'd have to decide whether the lowered economic prosperity is worth it. If on the other hand you're invading people's property, that's basically state action and you'd be cause for concern.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490524583 118360932,118367322,2017-03-26 10:36:34,">>118366571 Chip away at taxes and entitlements first of course. Besides, I see borders and defense as protection against force, theft, and fraud.",,Anonymous,captain murphy.jpg,x9O9v0d3GgUUfNvCJbqr4w==,US,,1490524594 118360932,118367330,2017-03-26 10:36:38,">>118360932 >libertarian >right",,Anonymous,3e2.jpg,gX2DlqgPZr6V8ilIersKAw==,US,,1490524598 118360932,118367340,2017-03-26 10:36:43,Thought on Cantwell?Is he a pussy for tolerating natsoc?,,Anonymous,they arent people.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,PL,,1490524603 118360932,118367403,2017-03-26 10:37:33,">>118367212 thank you",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490524653 118360932,118367428,2017-03-26 10:37:46,">>118367212 Wasn't Peter Thiel supposed to be there last year?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490524666 118360932,118367519,2017-03-26 10:38:46,">>118363959 Most ancaps are atheists who would allow pedophilia I guess ancapism works with white protestants But thats the beauty of ancap I can associate with my kind Ultimately you can invade the pedos and kill them",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490524726 118360932,118367588,2017-03-26 10:39:24,,,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1490524764 118360932,118367600,2017-03-26 10:39:29,">>118367330 oh you are the natsoc autist from the last time ? did you recover from your meltdown ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490524769 118360932,118367605,2017-03-26 10:39:32,">>118366887 I am indeed very excited to hear his opinion on recent developments concerning the new/alt right. I' d love to know what he thinks about the fact, that here in Germany a online magazin that he writes for (eigentümlich frei, somehwat translates into free property, it's a wordplay on two similar words only working in German) is thrown into a pot with the new right and third position, being viewed as a trick by evil nazis to get even more people on board with them by broadening their audience. People unironically start calling libertarians and right wing economists fascist, things start to get really crazy around here. It's like a left wing asylum at days. And yeah, I have to agree on your point on left wing seperationism, but the thing is, something like that can still be benefitial if done right. The kurds in Turkey for example aren't interested in global revolution and just want their own territory. Only revolutionaries who demand international influence (like those seperatists in Europe) are a immediate danger.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490524772 118360932,118367731,2017-03-26 10:40:52,">>118360996 >>118361113 Beautiful reading list. I think you should list ""Anatomy of the State"" higher on there, since it's just an essay and it's actually an excellent insight into the AnCap mindset. It highlights the moral argument that should proceed all utilitarian arguments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490524852 118360932,118367832,2017-03-26 10:42:01,">>118367588 I have another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVvmmcVvfy0 >You can't run, you can't hide, you get a helicopter ride I love our autists",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490524921 118360932,118367869,2017-03-26 10:42:19,">>118367600 I'm a monarchist, but Nazis are still way more right wing than you degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490524939 118360932,118367882,2017-03-26 10:42:27,">>118367428 He had to cancel because the (((SPLC))) and other cuck websites found out and started attacking him. He's definitely /ourguy/ tho, he said he came to the conclusion that freedom and democracy are incompatible and that women's suffrage was a blow to libertarian and conservative ideals.",,Anonymous,nick land.gif,9QNJHrDShg7/A4cFQOH8rw==,PT,,1490524947 118360932,118367905,2017-03-26 10:42:39,">>118367340 He still stays true to anarcho-capitalism so i have no problems with him. he just sees them as an ally against the left.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490524959 118360932,118367971,2017-03-26 10:43:24,">>118367832 >>118367588 Topkek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490525004 118360932,118367978,2017-03-26 10:43:28,">>118367330 Libertarian left literally makes no sense. Do you think that we should be free of coercion, but somehow all decisions in the economy are constrained and controlled by some centralized democratic entity? What the fuck sense does that make?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525008 118360932,118368038,2017-03-26 10:44:04,">>118367869 Let me guess, you think socialism isn't left wing if it's national.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490525044 118360932,118368155,2017-03-26 10:45:13,">>118367869 The ""right"" in libertarian right literally only refers to economics. The only reason we use the term is to try to separate our ideology from the morally bankrupt leftists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525113 118360932,118368314,2017-03-26 10:46:59,">>118367869 feudal monarchy is closer to ancapism than Hitler worship",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490525219 118360932,118368324,2017-03-26 10:47:09,">>118368038 Ding ding ding ding Another 15 year old fascist shitskin trying to provie his white",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490525229 118360932,118368326,2017-03-26 10:47:11,">>118367978 >Libertarian left literally makes no sense Yet you are the bastard children of classical liberals and enlightenment thinkers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525231 118360932,118368416,2017-03-26 10:48:11,">>118368326 >Yet you are the bastard children of classical liberals and enlightenment thinkers. Was this supposed to be some kind of argument or... ?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525291 118360932,118368440,2017-03-26 10:48:24,">>118367832 >>118367588 these are beautiful examples of physical removal of leftists.",,Anonymous,1490021631546.jpg,YFidbdxwx5ajR3h2gOA+0A==,US,,1490525304 118360932,118368506,2017-03-26 10:49:03,">>118368155 >liberal capitalism >right wing",,Anonymous,a03.jpg,E3dluyFeT0F8zDxxaiPjng==,US,,1490525343 118360932,118368530,2017-03-26 10:49:14,">>118368326 >Yet you are the bastard children of classical liberals and enlightenment thinkers. the only leftist enlighten philosopher I know is Rousseau,but Voltaire is 100% /ourguy/",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490525354 118360932,118368595,2017-03-26 10:49:51,">>118368314 >feudal monarchy is closer to ancapism than Let me just stop you right there, retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525391 118360932,118368611,2017-03-26 10:49:58,"Any Canadians here voting for Maxime Bernier? Obviously he will never go as far as we want, but it will be a step in the right direction.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,gNJdAZnpgxCm0SiLvo0m/w==,CA,,1490525398 118360932,118368618,2017-03-26 10:50:04,">>118368506 Alright, buddy, you wanna give me an objective definition of ""right wing""?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525404 118360932,118368629,2017-03-26 10:50:08,"Why many libertarian prefer civic nationalism over ethnic nationalism? I mean, would you like to live in a country crowded by blacks as long as they follow the rules? It makes no sense.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490525408 118360932,118368648,2017-03-26 10:50:21,">>118366396 >ancap >bottom right corner I'm ancap and I never got into the corner. You always have to be in favour of things like gay marriage. Which is basically coercing a private institution or a government action. Neither of which I'm in favour of.",,Anonymous,Commie cat.jpg,IwWiD5pUKl7KVXZ60ovv/w==,SI,,1490525421 118360932,118368695,2017-03-26 10:50:44,">>118367605 Yeah, the situation in Schnitzel-land is atrocious. Hoppe said that if you don't conform to the multicultural-globalist paradigm you're instantly labeled a nazi. I feel sorry for you Fritz, it must be hard. >something like that can still be benefitial if done right. The kurds in Turkey for example aren't interested in global revolution and just want their own territory. Only revolutionaries who demand international influence (like those seperatists in Europe) are a immediate danger. And I agree with you. >>118367832 Based, thanks!",,Anonymous,holy roman empire.png,CWtbYwgPfBbug6DRNImmXQ==,PT,,1490525444 118360932,118368698,2017-03-26 10:50:50,">>118368506 Oh boy mr. ""I wanted to perform sex rituals but couldn't find anyone to fuck me"" Evola. truely the original MGTOW telling me whats right wing.",,Anonymous,NAP.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1490525450 118360932,118368714,2017-03-26 10:51:05,">>118368629 I am an ethnic nationalist. But have no issue with other races. Welfare has done a lot of harm to blacks.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490525465 118360932,118368815,2017-03-26 10:52:02,>>118360932,,Anonymous,ron-paul-just-won-the-iowa-caucuses.jpg,+xdcseP5nGX2NFXrFwB3Zw==,FI,,1490525522 118360932,118368827,2017-03-26 10:52:08,">>118368506 well those who preached capitalism were on the right side of parliament since parliaments exist in western Europe so yeah it's right wing and your autistic preaching of sword battles will not solve that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490525528 118360932,118368829,2017-03-26 10:52:08,">>118360932 cuck thread... nat soc ftw",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490525528 118360932,118368891,2017-03-26 10:52:48,">>118368618 A ""true"" right wing state is an organic, imperial state with absolute power that values tradition, hierarchy, and God(s).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525568 118360932,118368947,2017-03-26 10:53:21,">>118368629 As long as you don't use force to make people participate, you can buy up as much property as you want play out your ethnic nationalist experiment. I personally don't embrace it because I essentially what matters is ideas. Perhaps people of a certain race might be more likely to subscribe to similar ideologies, but if someone is a different race than me, but they literally agree with me on everything, then why would I want to exclude them from my society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525601 118360932,118368997,2017-03-26 10:53:54,">>118368629 The removal of the welfare state and interventionist foreign policy reduces the incentive for parasitic and malicious immigration. A nation that demands assimilation and hard work, and doesn't make enemies, will only attract a small number of immigrants, and they will be people who want to work for a living.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490525634 118360932,118368999,2017-03-26 10:53:57,">>118367212 Korwin and Hoppe talking about alt right, this will be fun.",,Anonymous,1490024308005.jpg,Grw9oJ1492NpHa45Q6f97g==,DE,,1490525637 118360932,118369006,2017-03-26 10:54:02,Can we just agree that Trump is necessary before supporting libertarian/ancap candidates? The vehicle needs to be put back on a correct course before taking the hands off the steering wheel.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525642 118360932,118369020,2017-03-26 10:54:11,">>118368827 >parliamentarianism >right wing You guys are all dumb as fuck and an embarrassment to this board, you're below the awoo posters.",,Anonymous,2003742_orig.jpg,rLexGSDft7RvRnGwP5EoVg==,US,,1490525651 118360932,118369068,2017-03-26 10:54:41,">>118368595 It is though. If you have the time, watch this lecture (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIUSctVPCCU) and his book A Short History of Man. Serfdom aside, the early incarnation of feudalism was closer to anarcho-capitalism than absolute or constitutional monarchies were.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1490525681 118360932,118369116,2017-03-26 10:55:08,">>118368891 Then, no, under that definition, we are not right wing. However, if you ask the average person what ""right wing"" means, you're not going to get that answer from about 99.9999999% of people. So, describing ourselves as right wing is more understandable and coherent to the public at large.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525708 118360932,118369128,2017-03-26 10:55:15,,,Anonymous,Pepe snake Gadsden Flag.png,RmNH8kLb1NE9BRpOqBVRsw==,US,,1490525715 118360932,118369132,2017-03-26 10:55:19,">>118368947 Well put. I agree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525719 118360932,118369152,2017-03-26 10:55:33,">>118368595 ooooooooooooooh you're the same kid who can't tolerate counterpoints of your autistic definitions feudal kings used a fuckton of mercenaries and had no conscription and they claimed that god gave them the clay the reign over being a knight was a privatsed job deal with it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490525733 118360932,118369161,2017-03-26 10:55:39,,,Anonymous,communist spy.png,ZGIA75579yhg6xAyhnjMrQ==,US,,1490525739 118360932,118369164,2017-03-26 10:55:41,"Answer these questions friends and I'll board ship from minarchism to anarcho-capitalism 1. I am an individual wanting to sue a corporation or firm, how would I take the corporation to court? Why wouldn't they just ignore me. 2. Roads? Any ideas, how would roads in between houses work, who would own them? 3. I get murdered, what's happens to the murder if they can't find him. If my family's poor they can't pay someone to do an investigation.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490525741 118360932,118369232,2017-03-26 10:56:14,">>118368695 The German only prologue in Democracy - the god that failed talked exactly about that. He says how saddened he is about the developments in Germany and that he is surprised books like his haven't been banned already. He says Germany is in need of a revolution and damn how right he is. I hope Hoppe gets more exposure, his ideas could really better our situation, even if only parts of them are accepted by the populace. People should stop demonizing freedom while claiming to love freedom. Life gets more paradox every day, so let's hope this absurdity will help us in the future.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490525774 118360932,118369366,2017-03-26 10:57:35,">>118369164 no you fucking commie",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490525855 118360932,118369385,2017-03-26 10:57:50,">>118369020 >The political terms Right and Left were first used during the French Revolution (1789–99), and referred to seating arrangements in the French parliament; those who sat to the right of the chair of the parliamentary president were broadly supportive of the institutions of the monarchist Ancien Régime stop pretending knowing shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490525870 118360932,118369421,2017-03-26 10:58:12,">>118369116 >under that definition, we are not right wing. However, if you ask the average person what ""right wing"" means Libertarian """"""""""""""intellectuals"""""""""""", even their political science is democratic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525892 118360932,118369543,2017-03-26 10:59:23,">>118369232 Indeed. Although I believe that the shittier our situation gets in terms of economics, social policy and immigration, we will become more polarized to the point where we simply say ""This clearly does not work. Let's go our separate ways."" And that's it. The left gets a portion of the country, the right gets another. I fucking hope this happens because it can not go longer too much unless we have an outright civil war and war against migrants. If only we could get Steve Bannon to ""flash"" one of Hoppe's books in a picture or something. He would get instantly famous.",,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1490525963 118360932,118369559,2017-03-26 10:59:31,">>118369421 Prove to me that words have objective meanings.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490525971 118360932,118369628,2017-03-26 11:00:11,">>118368947 This is something that I don't understand, maybe because our countries don't have the same history. Why do you support an ideology that allow your people to replace by another people as long as the new people respect the laws? Knowing the demography of Africa, our future will be reduce to South Africa for the whites. And I am really sceptic on the longevity of your system in a multicultural country.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490526011 118360932,118369693,2017-03-26 11:00:46,">>118362694 Somalia. Don't tell them that though, real AnCap has never been tried! >hurr hurr commies don't account for human behavior >hey let's dissolve the state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526046 118360932,118369753,2017-03-26 11:01:17,">>118369164 1)""you have violated the NAP,we put a price on your head unless you accept being prosecuted"" 2)toll 3)make a foundation for paying private detective",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490526077 118360932,118369754,2017-03-26 11:01:17,">>118369385 Are you saying nothing was right wing before the French revolution? I guess Nietzsche wasn't an existentialist philosopher because the term hadn't been coined yet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526077 118360932,118369799,2017-03-26 11:01:41,">>118368997 But what I see is that Switzerland which is one of the freerer country of Europe is going to be replaced. The swiss will be minority in their own land.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490526101 118360932,118369862,2017-03-26 11:02:15,">>118369559 Really makes u think, damn libertarians r deep maaaaan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526135 118360932,118369866,2017-03-26 11:02:17,">>118369628 >Why do you support an ideology that allow your people to replace by another people as long as the new people respect the laws? I literally made this argument to you. Ideas are what matter most to me, far more than physical differences. If you want to convince me, you have to make an argument for why you would want to exclude people from your society that agree with your entire world view.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526137 118360932,118369891,2017-03-26 11:02:30,">>118369754 >Are you saying nothing was right wing before the French revolution there was no wings,only the king",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490526150 118360932,118369934,2017-03-26 11:02:55,">>118369543 >The left gets a portion of the country, the right gets another. The authoritarians will get the part of the country six feet underground.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526175 118360932,118369976,2017-03-26 11:03:19,">>118369862 >dodging the question to afraid of having a concrete argument brainlet ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490526199 118360932,118370009,2017-03-26 11:03:44,">>118369862 Nice argument, dipshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526224 118360932,118370099,2017-03-26 11:04:40,">>118369934 Not if you kill the others first.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490526280 118360932,118370159,2017-03-26 11:05:14,">>118369753 1. No say a firm gives me a product which kills my son, how do I take the firm to court? Why wouldn't ignore me? 2. I am referring to a road inbetween two houses which includes the sidewalk, how would a toll system work? What if I didn't pay.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490526314 118360932,118370184,2017-03-26 11:05:28,">>118364254 Hello, /r/libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490526328 118360932,118370205,2017-03-26 11:05:36,">>118360932 >Safespace and Archive right wing safe space on reddit the fuckin irony",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490526336 118360932,118370209,2017-03-26 11:05:38,">>118369164 1. You need to specify for what you are taking them to court. The only legal framework is the NAP, if they violated that, you can take them to private courts. If they ignore you you should be able to self defend and retaliate, so I think it would be in their best interest to find a common ground with you in court. 2. You need a road? Other people need a road? Then there is a demand. Where there is a demand there is profit to be made. Businesses will offer you to build a road and people who need it invest in it. If not enough people are willing to pay, there was no need for the road in the first place. How the road is maintained lies in the hands of the business, but if it isn't maintained competition will see the opportunity and offer to build a better maintained/ cheaper road. 3. That's a tough one, but I guess criminals can get away with a state aswell and I don't think if your family can't find the criminal on their own terms that money should be taken from people only to exact revenge. It just isn't worth it to keep a government around only for that. Also, if you lived in a community, there still could be a police force, to do that, just no government organized police force.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490526338 118360932,118370396,2017-03-26 11:07:22,">>118360932 I want strong POCs to breed my wife",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490526442 118360932,118370447,2017-03-26 11:07:58,">>118370209 What I am as an individual going to be able to do against a massive firm with their own private security?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490526478 118360932,118370456,2017-03-26 11:08:04,">>118369693 Somalia got its ""free market"" through a collapse of the state. It was a failed state before it became unregulated. That's exactly what we're saying with transitional governments.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490526484 118360932,118370480,2017-03-26 11:08:16,Remove the fucking Reddit link from the OP.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490526496 118360932,118370499,2017-03-26 11:08:24,">>118370159 >No say a firm gives me a product which kills my son, how do I take the firm to court? Why wouldn't ignore me? Courts are necessary, right? What makes you believe that courts can't exist without government? >I am referring to a road inbetween two houses which includes the sidewalk, how would a toll system work? What if I didn't pay. If people can't find an efficient way to charge people to walk down a sidewalk, they most certainly won't. The sidewalks in most neighborhoods are owned by HOAs do you pay a toll to walk down those sidewalks currently? Why do you think it would be any different?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526504 118360932,118370619,2017-03-26 11:09:46,">>118370159 >No say a firm gives me a product which kills my son nothing to sue here just make it clear that his shit kill people and less people would pay him >2. I am referring to a road in between two houses which includes the sidewalk, how would a toll system work? What if I didn't pay. you walk in dirt,or you make a kickstarter for building the road,or you make a road company",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490526586 118360932,118370656,2017-03-26 11:10:12,">>118369164 >3. I get murdered, what's happens to the murder if they can't find him. If my family's poor they can't pay someone to do an investigation. If the murderer can't be found the he gets away with it. What kind of question is that? This isn't some magical solution to all problems. If he gets away with murder, congratulations, he outsmarted the system. We can only speculate that since agencies would be in competition with one another, their efforts to catch criminals would be higher and therefore there would be better technology and forensic techniques. If your family was poor and couldn't pay for an investigation, most likely the other insured people who lived in your vicinity would pay up as an insurance premium, since they too would be in danger of being murdered. Your heir could theoretically catch the murderer and enslave him permanently or murder him if he could get enough evidence that he killed you. Since you were murdered, the murderer loses his right to life, and is therefore left at the whims of your heir or legal representatives.",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,PT,,1490526612 118360932,118370660,2017-03-26 11:10:16,">>118369866 I don't know, maybe for avoiding that Europe looks like a big Lebanon or even worst, Yougoslavia? If forcing people to not enter in my country is the price for avoiding the civil war, then I will do it. And read this paper, just the first page. http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/st196.pdf They said that free market, private porperty, rule of law and democracy tend to appear in culturally homogenous place. So if your ideology is a threat to itself, how can it work?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490526616 118360932,118370669,2017-03-26 11:10:25,">>118370447 Anarcho Capitalism isn't the clichee of you living alone in the corporate world™. You'd have the back of the community you lived in and it would be foolish of the corporation to go against whole communities of people, since if they'd make this behaviour an everyday matter, they'd lose customers and with that their profit.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490526625 118360932,118370779,2017-03-26 11:11:24,">>118369976 P1: your statement really made me think C: libertarians are deep Sounds coherent to me, faggot!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526684 118360932,118370811,2017-03-26 11:11:43,">>118370499 I am beginning to understand. So the private courts will have their own private army which will threaten violence against the group I wanted to sue. Either resolve in the court or we attack you. But how would the attack work, Anon please bear with me > If people can't find an efficient way to charge people to walk down a sidewalk, they most certainly won't. The sidewalks in most neighborhoods are owned by HOAs do you pay a toll to walk down those sidewalks currently? Why do you think it would be any different? I think a likely scenario is that we all pitch in to build the sidewalk, or a developer might build a bunch of houses there and in addition build a sidewalk But for the first example where we pitch in, what if my neighbour doesnt want to pitch in but we all do and build it. What happens to him",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490526703 118360932,118370898,2017-03-26 11:12:46,">>118369693 Did you know that Somalia was actually doing better under no state than they were with their previous government and even better than comparable surrounding areas? Also, no AnCap that's done any research or thinking into the subject is going to tell you that dissolving the government immediately and automatically fixes all problems. The social and economic repression that Somalia faces would take a very long time to overcome, even in ideal circumstances.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526766 118360932,118370944,2017-03-26 11:13:11,">>118369164 >minarchism Commie >sue a corporation Contact your insurance company. It could be handled entirely by the insurer depending on the case. You get compensation and they file the lawsuit. If you want to be the filing the lawsuit you'll have to work with your insurer and work out which court it'll go to. Also the costs will be higher this way probably, but more compensation if you win the lawsuit. >roads, who would own them Either local communities would pool resources then contract private companies, similar to today. Or just make it totally private. This should be cheaper but you're also losing. However the companies shouldn't charge too much or else they risk losing business in the future. Who's gonna hire an extortionist? >I get murdered Your family receives compensation if you were insured. And now there's a murderer walking around. Insurers can't have that or they risk having to pay out further victims. So they'll prosecute him regardless of insurance status.",,Anonymous,Commie Bert.png,5OnbZaf+SSt1kG0ws1Xs8g==,SI,,1490526791 118360932,118370975,2017-03-26 11:13:37,">>118370779 no he asked you if there is objective definitions of right-wing then you went full ad hominem mocking him for no reason except that you can't even respond a fucking question",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490526817 118360932,118371039,2017-03-26 11:14:17,">>118370811 Having war break out would be almost non-existent since war syphons funds to the arms race and destroys property, therefore raising premium costs. Since people naturally do not want war but peace, we can speculate that aggressive or trigger-happy defense agencies would not be very well received by the market. If you want an overview on this, read The Private Production of Defense.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1490526857 118360932,118371041,2017-03-26 11:14:18,">>118370660 >They said that free market, private porperty, rule of law and democracy tend to appear in culturally homogenous place Why do you think that this is the case?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526858 118360932,118371060,2017-03-26 11:14:31,The collapse of capitalism is inevitable...,,Anonymous,IMG_3693.png,V/CiRNFYhwkv70vWE0711g==,US,,1490526871 118360932,118371144,2017-03-26 11:15:16,">>118370975 I already answered that question you idiot. If you're the right wing of France we should just let Muslims move in, it would be an improvement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490526916 118360932,118371151,2017-03-26 11:15:22,Kike trash,,Anonymous,1484050715456.jpg,81VsGDULb9IzGrRcw1Sktg==,DO,,1490526922 118360932,118371176,2017-03-26 11:15:34,">>118371060 >said an over exited man for the nth time",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490526934 118360932,118371253,2017-03-26 11:16:25,">>118371060 >le accelerationism",,Anonymous,1489496307378.jpg,OAQjFD7aHPhJGJ0iIr8psQ==,DE,,1490526985 118360932,118371303,2017-03-26 11:16:52,">>118371060 If you take Marx at his word, then you should be cheering on capitalism. His literal argument was that capitalism naturally ""evolves"" into communism. The more capitalist a society becomes, the closer it is to a communist state, supposedly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490527012 118360932,118371366,2017-03-26 11:17:25,">>118371060 >a-any day now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490527045 118360932,118371443,2017-03-26 11:18:01,">>118371144 >I already answered that question you idiot. nope you don't he explained to you that your definition of right-wing is relative because nobody thinks that right wing=monarchy except an very specific group of people like you > If you're the right wing of France we should just let Muslims move in, it would be an improvement nice strawman king cocksucker",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490527081 118360932,118371500,2017-03-26 11:18:37,">>118360932 Sorry, you ""libertarians"" sold yourself out for Trump, and got the cucking you deserve.",,Anonymous,donald-fails-again.jpg,v7GOeAiznXYg7KwuYvUQjg==,GB,,1490527117 118360932,118371506,2017-03-26 11:18:38,">>118371041 Because when people share the same ethnie, they tend to be trustful with the others, as Robert Putnam explained it.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490527118 118360932,118371524,2017-03-26 11:18:49,">>118371144 Muslims are commies. They want a nanny state to cradle them and give them gibs. Most of so called ""conservatives"" also love a big government to protect them from nudity in televison or other horrible things. I have conservative morals as well, but moralism on a political level is commie tier, since wanting a government for that shit is ridiculous.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490527129 118360932,118371543,2017-03-26 11:18:56,">>118370669 >it would be foolish of the corporation to go against whole communities of people This sounds like you are making the case for government. If we restrict government to the functions of protection against force, theft, fraud, and enforcement of contracts we could root out the cronyism that allows much of this to go on in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490527136 118360932,118371553,2017-03-26 11:19:01,">>118371443 a very*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490527141 118360932,118371859,2017-03-26 11:22:10,">>118360932 Bump personal freedom and political centrism.",,Anonymous,donttred.jpg,02c0/sMs8YTxx6dneOPzww==,RU,,1490527330 118360932,118372014,2017-03-26 11:23:46,">>118371543 I am all for local, voluntary governing. At the end of the day, those are just incredibily small governments, but every person living there does so in his own will and supporting the rules the community upholds. A wide reaching, national government tries to represent too many people at once and thus can only fail. That's why seperatism is so important and benefitial to our cause, if you split up often enough, you'll get closer and closer to the AnCap endgame.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490527426 118360932,118372032,2017-03-26 11:23:53,">>118360932 >removal of communist fags Can we also remove the Redditors, Identity politicians, Trumpkins, and other normies? I'm sick of these GOP kikes shitting up this humble Kekistani Lolcow-herding board.",,Anonymous,SOFREP_navy-seal_jesse_ventura_16463bf422[1].jpg,6tOtY/w+IRkrQZqwEm2GYg==,US,,1490527433 118360932,118372061,2017-03-26 11:24:09,">>118370811 >private courts will have their own private army No. Insurance companies will probably have significant firepower. But the courts should be independent. In the end it's up to the customers that fund them. I don't think they'd want some dickhead running around like a dictator. >my neighbour doesnt want to pitch in but we all do and build it There's tons of free riders in the current system as well. If he's known to be a leech he risks price discrimination or just being ousted from the community. If he's just a poorfag people will probably go easy on him or if they don't like poorfags they could shit on him from a great height. People have freedom in this case. And people in general are probably just gonna replicate what the most successful communities do.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490527449 118360932,118372132,2017-03-26 11:24:53,">>118361113 >>What Must Be Done >https://mises.org/system/tdf/What%20Must%20Be%20Done_7.pdf?file=1&type=document Tldr please?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490527493 118360932,118372265,2017-03-26 11:26:13,">>118372132 for fuck's sake it's only 15 pages",,Anonymous,1490478520831.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,PL,,1490527573 118360932,118372304,2017-03-26 11:26:33,">>118372061 this, the community has all rights to discriminate. If he might have no real benefit from the sidewalk, because investors needed it so people get to their stores but he only walks on it, it is understandable, but if he frequently leeches off the system, he can easily be denied inclusion into the community. Inclusiveness is a trick propagated by commies and litebertarians.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490527593 118360932,118372571,2017-03-26 11:29:00,"Why do so many autists become libertarian? http://reason.com/blog/2011/07/20/being-libertarian-may-cause-au http://www.zerothposition.com/2016/07/22/an-overview-of-autistic-libertarianism/ https://www.quora.com/Are-there-disproportionately-many-libertarians-with-Aspergers-Syndrome-If-so-why https://reece.liberty.me/an-overview-of-autistic-libertarianism/ In a truly libertarian society wouldn't the free market make you rejects unemployable with no access to autism gibs?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1490527740 118360932,118372655,2017-03-26 11:29:47,">>118364332 For a New Liberty is often the starting point for most libertarians. There's a reason why it's also known as the libertarian manifesto.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490527787 118360932,118372659,2017-03-26 11:29:49,"American bro, you upload hoppewave videos to youtube right? I've got a track for you. How do I send it? Pic related for thumbnail,but I have a higher quality version that 4chan doesn't let me upload (too big)",,Anonymous,hoppewave.jpg,ia2+0pGzR738bf2zAn3onQ==,PT,,1490527789 118360932,118372952,2017-03-26 11:32:34,">>118372571 How are autists unemployable?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490527954 118360932,118372967,2017-03-26 11:32:48,">>118372014 >I am all for local, voluntary governing. At the end of the day, those are just incredibily small governments, but every person living there does so in his own will and supporting the rules the community upholds. Yes, it's minarchy. >A wide reaching, national government tries to represent too many people at once and thus can only fail. The local government should have more power than government at the state level and the federal government should uphold the constitution, protect citizens and nothing more. >That's why seperatism is so important and benefitial to our cause, if you split up often enough, you'll get closer and closer to the AnCap endgame. Yes, minarchy is a necessary step towards your goal of anarcho-capitalism. Going from where we are now to ancap is a pipedream.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490527968 118360932,118372994,2017-03-26 11:33:04,">>118366312 Minarchism, aka classical liberalism, contains the seed of its own destruction. By reducing the role of the state they improve society but unwittingly legitimize the figure of the state, a legitimacy that years down the road will be used to expand its power and kill any hopes of freedom.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490527984 118360932,118373124,2017-03-26 11:34:12,">>118372659 Aveirobro, is that you?",,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1490528052 118360932,118373241,2017-03-26 11:35:17,">>118372659 Also, post the track on Vidme like I did, and then others can download it and post it on YouTube. You have to save the track as an mp4 with the image running through the video tho.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490528117 118360932,118373320,2017-03-26 11:35:58,">>118364569 kek",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490528158 118360932,118373682,2017-03-26 11:39:10,">>118372994 The state has a legitimate role. It is up to the citizenry to keep its power restrained. This is why the second amendment is so important to so many Americans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490528350 118360932,118374011,2017-03-26 11:42:13,">>118366887 Separatism is inherently libertarian regardless of who supports it. Separatism creates more jurisdictions, which increases competition between jurisdictions, weakening the monopoly on violence of all states. The more countries there are the less leverage every government has to confiscate property of its citizens because the ease of tax evasion, emigration and many other measures of evading state power grow more and more. Not to mention that smaller countries can not pretend to be autarchic, and the effects of hampering free trade would be infinitely harsher and more immediate. That is why the most laissez faire jurisdictions in this planet are small countries and city-states like Hong Kong and Singapore. Even if newly created jurisdictions went full communist, those communisms would be shorter lived and will have far less control than if they happened in the former bigger country instead of the new country that was just a fraction of it before. This is why libertarianism is the ultimate anti-globalist movement. Socialism is inherently centralistic, whereas decentralization is inherently capitalistic and libertarian.",,Anonymous,mises.org.jpg,U93xsDx9LAhToLe8j8cCag==,ES,,1490528533 118360932,118374018,2017-03-26 11:42:18,">>118372952 You really think anybody wants to deal with an autist with no common sense when working? Their lack of social sense makes them hard to work with and unpredictable which causes far too much trouble for what they are worth.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1490528538 118360932,118374209,2017-03-26 11:44:01,">>118372967 >minarchy is a necessary step I don't see the mob getting rid of its right to vote. You'd have to cut off non-taxpayers and possibly people without property for minarchy to have a chance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490528641 118360932,118374303,2017-03-26 11:44:51,">>118372659 I uploaded the recent one yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490528691 118360932,118374334,2017-03-26 11:45:03,">>118374011 I completely agree with what you're saying. Even if Le Pen fucked France for 4 years with her protectionism but still got her out of the EU, after 4 years France would have every incentive to lower taxes and slash regulations to compete with the EU. And Hoppe said that Brexit was inherently anti-democratic and anti-globalist, since the Leave voters were actually a minority vis-a-vis the other people in the EU who would've voted Remain if they could. So 17 million people voted against 500 million and won.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490528703 118360932,118375040,2017-03-26 11:51:27,">>118374334 >Even if Le Pen fucked France for 4 years five years the only good thing about Chirac (a soft conservative with no spine at all ) is that he shortened the president's terms (before it that seven years,yes i am not joking)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490529087 118360932,118375513,2017-03-26 11:55:46,">>118375040 What's the name of that libertarian presidential candidate who said he'd burn the entire labor code if he was elected? He's also promised to ban ""negro music"" and a bunch of other things.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490529346 118360932,118375797,2017-03-26 11:58:06,">>118375040 Henry de Lesquen, that's it.",,Anonymous,ancap ball 1.png,3Sr9WskwEOuYm6hyYaFW5g==,PT,,1490529486 118360932,118376196,2017-03-26 12:01:43,">>118375513 Henry "" cosmopolites fear the french "" de Lesquen",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490529703 118360932,118376316,2017-03-26 12:02:42,">>118375797 >Henry de Lesquen pretty legit.",,Anonymous,henry-de-lesquen-une.jpg,KBtBA/ziQHtCx39rYUINfA==,US,,1490529762 118360932,118376819,2017-03-26 12:07:01,">>118376316 >""racism is an opinion,racists should have the right to express themselves"" a hero",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490530021 118360932,118377691,2017-03-26 12:15:14,">>118375513 >he'd burn the entire labor code if he was elected? Reading this just gave me a boner. I fucking love union cucks suffering, they always act like spoiled children.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490530514 118360932,118377867,2017-03-26 12:16:47,">>118377691 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzc1EBEdhRo https://lesquen2017.com/2017/03/06/levidente-superiorite-intellectuelle-de-lhomme-sur-la-femme/",,Anonymous,hoppe parrot.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,PT,,1490530607 118360932,118379516,2017-03-26 12:31:02,bump,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490531462 118360932,118380021,2017-03-26 12:35:14,">>118377867 >she (le pen) is obiviously under influence,Marine le Pen in a leftist woman,few people know it but she is a leftist, as I said in the "" Nouvel Observateur"" (a newspaper) she is stupid and illeterate,what she likes is too join degenerate parties listenning to negro music >a link from his site where he shows Richard Lynn statistics proving that men have a higher IQ than women the hero we need",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490531714 118360932,118382197,2017-03-26 12:52:03,">>118373124 >>118373241 >>118374303 https://vid.me/mL58",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490532723 118360932,118383509,2017-03-26 13:02:09,LIFE,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490533329 118360932,118385791,2017-03-26 13:20:10,How would a libertarian or ancap society deal with ecological problems and the contradictions and problems of capitalism?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490534410 118360932,118385859,2017-03-26 13:20:42,">>118385791 and how would you stop the de evolution of culture into consumerist culture?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490534442 118360932,118387029,2017-03-26 13:30:22,">>118360932 Is this chart still valid in a LibAnCap world?",,Anonymous,Sociocultural System.jpg,quFC4R98UIrHrHXgcvRyiA==,CA,,1490535022 118360932,118387405,2017-03-26 13:33:21,">>118385791 >ecological problems If your property is being polluted you can sue. >>118385859 People would actually have to work for their money. No more wealth transfers, no more easy money from central banks to accrue massive debt. That should lead to a more restrained family oriented life style. Other than that it's up the people if they want to pursue vanity. I don't see how the state would solve this issue. People are driven by social status and having more toys gives it to them to an extent.",,Anonymous,1480214107390.jpg,+qj2gERJcioXKm4Hf8tPEg==,SI,,1490535201 118360932,118387844,2017-03-26 13:36:51,">>118387405 >if your property is being polluted I'm talking about the WORLD not my property >>118385791 >>118385859 No one?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490535411 118360932,118388119,2017-03-26 13:38:57,">>118387844 >WORLD You mean global warming? You think a carbon tax is gonna do shit?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490535537 118360932,118388177,2017-03-26 13:39:28,">>118382197 Amazing.",,Anonymous,physical removal.png,iOWpG5LvqvA6Z4IT/WA/dw==,PT,,1490535568 118360932,118388271,2017-03-26 13:40:02,">>118388119 No not a carbon tax but how would you deal with one in an ancap or minarchist society",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490535602 118360932,118388606,2017-03-26 13:42:45,">>118388271 >No not a carbon tax Well what then? The production is just gonna move elsewhere when you try to regulate. Like China. You know why things are being produced more ecologically now? Technological progress, not bureaucrats. And the best way to achieve progress is the free market.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490535765 118360932,118388671,2017-03-26 13:43:12,"1. Almost all libertarianism intellectuals are kikes 2. None of them ever served in the military. 3. They were all lifelong academics none of them ever had a real job There's zero reason to take you people seriously. The Jews took our ancestral ideas of liberty going back thousands of years and perverted it into autistic shekel grubbing that the Jews feel more comfortable with. And you idiots fell for it.",,Anonymous,e1c1a8914ef5146dcc8e88f4d62812b33ec7d3d0_1_600x509.jpg,IOTUJf9r3sjxi85mbzqHlA==,US,,1490535792 118360932,118388720,2017-03-26 13:43:33,">>118388271 People start getting aware anddon't like the development already. If they stop buying energy from oil companies they have to raise prices and lose even more customers. It snowballs into alternative energies being cheaper and better in the long run, beating competition naturally. Or do you think subsidies for the coal industry like in Germany could help to get away from that? Intervention on the market is the only thing keeping those industries alive.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490535813 118360932,118389055,2017-03-26 13:45:54,">>118388671 >da joos!",,Anonymous,when the communist slips off the helicopter.png,csW5xl6/mwctUz4fmIQwfg==,PT,,1490535954 118360932,118389168,2017-03-26 13:46:46,">>118388720 But how does intervention in the market cause that? People don't use that many renewable energy because it's costly>>118385859 Most businesses don't care about the environment. They care more about profit",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536006 118360932,118389247,2017-03-26 13:47:19,>>118360932,,Anonymous,TREADED.png,L5npvxGuevn773KY5e720w==,CA,,1490536039 118360932,118389268,2017-03-26 13:47:29,,,Anonymous,14718872_1634573730168624_6503444481753951064_n.jpg,aACKEpPvzDay6D5vQY7EFA==,US,,1490536049 118360932,118389272,2017-03-26 13:47:29,">>118385859 >>118385791 Also can anyone answer these?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536049 118360932,118389278,2017-03-26 13:47:33,">>118360932 Can we also remove the NaSocs, they aren't much better than the Communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490536053 118360932,118389303,2017-03-26 13:47:43,>>118388671,,Anonymous,1479921973261.jpg,hfZuCrX64uox/lHSwvWZ3A==,GB,,1490536063 118360932,118389321,2017-03-26 13:47:53,">>118388671 ibsdaaa joooooooos",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490536073 118360932,118389461,2017-03-26 13:48:52,">>118389278 of course!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536132 118360932,118389531,2017-03-26 13:49:31,">>118389168 It is costly because they are not able to compete. In Germany for example the coal industry gets millions of tax euros as subsidies, because there still are many people employed and the government wants to keep that industry alive. How could renewable energy businesses compete with a government funded industry? If they had to compete on the free market, they'd get gradually cheaper and would get the upper hand in the market.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490536171 118360932,118389596,2017-03-26 13:50:08,">>118388671 Some quality discourse you got there, sir.",,Anonymous,ancap McGas(TM).png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,ES,,1490536208 118360932,118389614,2017-03-26 13:50:21,">>118388671 >truth >literally head of the ministry of propaganda Really gets my noggin joggin.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490536221 118360932,118389633,2017-03-26 13:50:31,">>118385791 >>118385859 In a Libertarian Society >Few but strict regulations on air pollution, disposal of waste, and probably a few other things. In an ANCAP >Disposal of highly toxic wastes that can harm other people due to the waste or method of disposal is a violation of the NAP. In both hopefully some private company buys out large plots of land to build wilderness parks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490536231 118360932,118389877,2017-03-26 13:52:31,">>118389531 Well in the UK we import most of our fuel because it's cheaper. How would renewable energy companies be more succesful in a freer market? >>118389633 So in both ecologic destruction happens probably even worse than now but you just hope big businesses may try to help?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536351 118360932,118389885,2017-03-26 13:52:34,">>118385859 >In a Libertarian Society Laws put in place by the government to ban wealth redistribution (Welfare and Subsidies). >In an ANCAP >Being a Communist, Democratic Socialist, or NaSoc Violates the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490536354 118360932,118390020,2017-03-26 13:53:43,">>118389885 Read Adorno lad. Ultra capitalism would create more consumerist """"""culture"""""" not welfare or communists",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536423 118360932,118390036,2017-03-26 13:53:48,">>118389633 >Disposal of highly toxic wastes that can harm other people due to the waste or method of disposal is a violation of the NAP. interesting point",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536428 118360932,118390154,2017-03-26 13:54:52,">>118390036 But what about things like air pollution? Or if a company owns a lake they pollute",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536492 118360932,118390178,2017-03-26 13:55:03,">>118360932 Show me how anarchy is feasible in any way shape or form. Particularly this form of anarchy.",,Thos,,,US,,1490536503 118360932,118390180,2017-03-26 13:55:04,">>118390036 Nobody wants a Sellafield or a Handford in there backyard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490536504 118360932,118390244,2017-03-26 13:55:32,">>118389877 Because the trend is already there, people don't like unclean energy but still buy it because they can afford to lower their prices because they get government aid. If they didn't, they'd have to raise prices to make profit and would lose customers to the more liked and now cheaper renewable energy producers.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490536532 118360932,118390383,2017-03-26 13:56:35,">>118390244 But not all non renewable energy is government aided most isn't",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536595 118360932,118390534,2017-03-26 13:57:41,Also another question how would you solve the problems and contradictions of capitalism?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536661 118360932,118390638,2017-03-26 13:58:29,">>118390154 the real ancap issue is the fact that private property doesn't really exist, or, well, it's not nearly as delimited as ANCAPs say it is. if you buy a parcel of land, and then pollute it, you will definitely 100% of the time pollute neighboring lands that do not necessarily belong to you. unfortunately by the time ANCAP's moral code deals with this problem, the problem has already been created and may be irreversible. there needs to be at some level a notion of the commons. many things like the world's atmosphere cannot simply be segmented into a thousand little islands, as it's impossible to prevent cross-pollution. ANCAPistan would probably work better in a space station where you could absolutely prevent this sort of problem, but on earth in a shared biosphere it wouldn't really work, or at least you would have large and ongoing problems with this sort of thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490536709 118360932,118390724,2017-03-26 13:59:07,">>118390154 Air pollution is violating the right of others to breathe clean air and therefore an act of aggression. >if a company owns a lake don't know, I'd suppose there wouldn't be anything anybody could do about it unless it was spreading out from their property or affecting drinking water. If you want to get into a really strict definition of the NAP I suppose all forms of pollution on private property or not are violations because it breaches the right of everybody to live on the planet in the future.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536747 118360932,118390758,2017-03-26 13:59:19,">>118390383 The fact that some are being funded and that there are general restrictions and regulations is enough to manipulate the market in a way so true competition can't arise. Also, lobbying is a thing.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490536759 118360932,118390789,2017-03-26 13:59:31,">>118390154 >someone finds evidence of industrial waste in their water supply >sues them >meanwhile in Flint And I like how you're ignoring >>118388606",,Anonymous,Flintwater.jpg,P2T2f618gxkqrzm4HwLuEA==,SI,,1490536771 118360932,118390824,2017-03-26 13:59:46,">>118390178 it isn't",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490536786 118360932,118390876,2017-03-26 14:00:11,">>118362052 >appose Ya blew it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490536811 118360932,118390978,2017-03-26 14:00:52,">>118390534 Care to explain? What's the contradiction?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490536852 118360932,118391101,2017-03-26 14:01:47,">>118390758 But as i said before most arent goverment funded >>118390724 But how would you stop them from polluting the air? >>118390789 Because it's bullshit. Capitalists don't solve ecological problems usually the state has to",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536907 118360932,118391210,2017-03-26 14:02:36,">>118360932 SNEKS. PHYSICAL REMOVAL",,Anonymous,1490387505340.jpg,FlSH1OHZ0nnUAsD2+dLcUg==,US,,1490536956 118360932,118391249,2017-03-26 14:02:56,">>118390978 Things like the fallin rate of profit, how we overproduce etc I can telk you haven't read anything that challenges your views",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490536976 118360932,118391347,2017-03-26 14:03:37,">>118368506 >any type of capitalism >not right wing ok bud",,Anonymous,1474919616797.jpg,6graYdES8tbH94+062sW1g==,CA,,1490537017 118360932,118391436,2017-03-26 14:04:32,">>118368611 Looking forward to making Trudeau BTFO in 2019. Definitely voting Bernier",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490537072 118360932,118391459,2017-03-26 14:04:43,Remember to sage all lolbertarian threads,,Anonymous,libertarianism.png,XRvmnFFVc/X0e+5nHUoWVA==,CA,,1490537083 118360932,118391481,2017-03-26 14:04:56,">>118391101 Lawsuits in private courts or if they persist literally dragging the suits of the corporation out in to the street by their heels and putting them down with shotguns. The fun part of the NAP is that if you break it and don't accept to privately arbitrate a reasonable punishment for yourself then you're fair game. Or at least that's my interpretation, I've never done any actual reading on this ideology, I just have a passing interest in it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490537096 118360932,118391529,2017-03-26 14:05:17,Google Bookchin to red pilled on why capitalism is bad,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490537117 118360932,118391556,2017-03-26 14:05:28,">>118360932 since people wont listen to him or anyone else like him and always say its some, mystic shit or whatever cant do this, - the human race will become extinct, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq6wFb7lBG8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490537128 118360932,118391597,2017-03-26 14:05:49,">>118391459 You need to go back",,Anonymous,Back To Stormfront.png,js6ltHNvAYlpcqxaxlR33A==,US,,1490537149 118360932,118391660,2017-03-26 14:06:18,">>118390154 If you can prove that you are breathing in polluted air caused by a certain company you can take it to court. And I imagine that you will not be alone in this as people generally don't like breathing in poisonous shit. In america the government sets arbitrary limits on how much pollution is 'good' for us, so even if a company is polluting the air you're breathing in, you can't do shit about it as they're producing under the allotted amount. As for lakes if they own it then there should be no problem since it is their property. If they are dumping it in a park that someone owns then they will get their asses sued.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490537178 118360932,118391665,2017-03-26 14:06:19,">>118390638 >ANCAPistan would probably work better in a space station where you could absolutely prevent this sort of problem, but on earth in a shared biosphere it wouldn't really work, or at least you would have large and ongoing problems with this sort of thing. This. Ancapistan in space would be perfect, like the shit you see in sci-fi films",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490537179 118360932,118391674,2017-03-26 14:06:25,">>118380021 >she is stupid and illiterate, what she likes is to join degenerate parties listening to negro music top kek",,Anonymous,1442593-1-L.jpg,cN1/0k1L+0TDmOt/1v2FdQ==,PT,,1490537185 118360932,118391834,2017-03-26 14:07:36,">>118390638 Both Hoppe and Rothbard (and probably others) have addressed these issues of the commons and cross-party contamination...",,Anonymous,1442595-1-L.jpg,xTKfxPB8/jBmr7ftzksYkg==,PT,,1490537256 118360932,118392566,2017-03-26 14:13:18,">>118369164 Fuck off pinko",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490537598 118360932,118392657,2017-03-26 14:13:57,How is the issue of monopolies addressed?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490537637 118360932,118392707,2017-03-26 14:14:20,">>118391249 >fallin rate of profit If you're failing to profit you must rethink your buisness strategy, although i don't agree with marxs theory obviously, if your product/service is wanted you will make profit. If you dont act like such a smug lefty cunt right out of the gate maybe we can have a discussion but you haven't pointed out any ""contradictions"" of capitalism.",,Anonymous,1487041975527.jpg,WOXJhZNneX564LJE5Tn+Mg==,US,,1490537660 118360932,118392886,2017-03-26 14:15:39,">>118392657 There are no monopolies in a free market. A monopoly is the absence of free entry into a specific line of production. Get rid of the state (which itself is the ultimate monopoly on the production line of defense and judicial services) and you have free entry into any line of production.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490537739 118360932,118393258,2017-03-26 14:18:29,"What system would be best for ancap? I remembering asking in the thread yesterday but no one responded to it, so hopefully someone does this time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490537909 118360932,118393384,2017-03-26 14:19:28,">>118393258 What do you mean?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490537968 118360932,118393613,2017-03-26 14:21:17,">>118391101 >the state has to How does the state do fuck all other than shift production to other countries? You sound like an annoying bluepilled redditor. It's state property that's allowed to be destroyed for private profit in the first place under the current system.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490538077 118360932,118393675,2017-03-26 14:21:49,">>118393258 I guess I should reword it, which governmental system (republic, monarchy types, etc) would be closer or more suitable around ancap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490538109 118360932,118393752,2017-03-26 14:22:26,">>118393384 see >>118393258",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490538146 118360932,118393892,2017-03-26 14:23:39,">>118392886 But what's to stop one individual from buying out every major paper or TV station? I suppose that wouldn't really actually matter if there's no government or politics, so never mind actually.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490538219 118360932,118393937,2017-03-26 14:24:01,">>118361651 Impressive! Just for fun please check out this clip I posted that's slower: https://soundcloud.com/user-499365694/hoppewave-2-slowed-clipped/s-UceXf",,Anonymous,ron paul framed happening.jpg,eYgVOdLKyut6AF70NM0G/A==,US,,1490538241 118360932,118394199,2017-03-26 14:25:59,">>118393384 Ops meant >>118393675",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490538359 118360932,118394231,2017-03-26 14:26:13,">>118393752 I read that, but what do you mean by system? >>118393892 He'd have to have a shit ton of money in order to do so and also convince companies that they'd be far better off by being his property. This would be difficult given that some news organizations exist to cater to specific audiences which could conflict with the man's convictions/goals and his other companies' goals.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490538373 118360932,118394411,2017-03-26 14:27:24,">>118394199 Ah ok. Ancap itself is a system. Whereas monarchy is a privately-owned government and yet a monopoly, ancap is privately-owned government without a monopoly. People are free to seek out justice services and protection to anyone they want.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490538444 118360932,118394511,2017-03-26 14:28:05,">>118393937 Damn, I like that. Very ethereal. And the stops are nice too since they become longer, like a VHS player switching a cassette.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490538485 118360932,118394600,2017-03-26 14:28:47,">>118393892 If someone is buying newspapers and media constantly at any price there will be a massive incentive for other people to create more and more media stations for him to buy until that fool's money runs out.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490538527 118360932,118394621,2017-03-26 14:29:00,I'm not really interested in the principle of the thing. I just want to do heroin with my loli sex slave harem. IS THAT SUCH A CRIME,,Anonymous,1484596546530.jpg,I0FpjdpX3cRiRMQdMJnF0A==,US,,1490538540 118360932,118394746,2017-03-26 14:29:58,">>118394231 >>118394600 you guys are literally really making me think good thread, I might become a regular",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490538598 118360932,118395068,2017-03-26 14:32:43,">>118394411 checked. Gotcha, another question: Who runs ancap if it is privately-owned? The people?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490538763 118360932,118395273,2017-03-26 14:34:25,">>118365213 I have a queston, too. I think AnCap could work on a small scale. But what if you wanted to build a highway from eastcoast to westcoast and in the middle there is a community who says: ne we dont need this, we not gonna pay for it. Also who would do the planning. Doesnt it need some kind of central planning? And these planners, who would pay for them?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490538865 118360932,118395303,2017-03-26 14:34:38,">>118395068 the property owners rule over their property. with consent of those who may choose to live under them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490538878 118360932,118395432,2017-03-26 14:35:48,">>118394746 Hoppe in, stranger. >>118395068 If we're talking about a secluded village or a small town, most likely the people would resort to someone belonging to the natural elite, i.e. people whose opinions are more respected and their authority more veneered given to their superior achievements in life. If we're talking about population centers or more advanced cities, insurance agencies and private defense firms would be doing the ""running"" of society. And by running I mean protecting its private property and enforcing its contracts.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490538948 118360932,118395674,2017-03-26 14:37:49,">>118395303 Would it then be some form of feudalism? I remember reading a article maybe two years ago that medieval Iceland was probably the ""closet"" thing to ancap society, but was still feudalistic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539069 118360932,118395840,2017-03-26 14:39:12,"actually i half watched the video>>118391556 >Embed propoganda comes in easy to find forms...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539152 118360932,118395843,2017-03-26 14:39:14,"Reposting the h o p p e w 𝓪 v e https://vid.me/mL58",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490539154 118360932,118396095,2017-03-26 14:41:23,">right ""libertarianism"" AKA statist sophistry.",,Anonymous,right-libertarians.png,qR/GmFiXOqOGEk3/ErS81g==,US,,1490539283 118360932,118396128,2017-03-26 14:41:38,">>118395674 It would be like a modern take on feudalism. You'd have your communities ruled by a ""feudal lord"" (owner of the property), but instead of him getting his legitimization through blood, he gets it through merit (since he worked to get into the position of buying the property). And because everybody can achieve this status, since being of royal blood is no prequisite, nobody is forced to live under the ""lord"", but if one wants and doesn't like to take a risk can live under him, voluntarily.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490539298 118360932,118396155,2017-03-26 14:41:49,">>118394746 All libertarianism is just a small set of core principles that are universally appliable. Most libertarian theory is generally speculation about how a free society would develop once those principles (private property, free trade, individual rights) are applied. The general idea is that everything works better when people are allowed to pursue their self-interest and that market solutions make the fulfillment of self interest possible without harming others. Ancapism is just the stage in which, after applying those principles to pretty much every question, you conclude that all monopolies are bad, and that includes security, and policing as well.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539309 118360932,118396187,2017-03-26 14:42:06,">>118395432 Okay, I apologize I'm still trying to understand the premise of it all. >secluded village or a small town, most likely the people would resort to someone belonging to the natural elite >population centers or more advanced cities, insurance agencies and private defense firms would be doing the ""running"" of society So would it look like early feudalism and Italian city states?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539326 118360932,118396307,2017-03-26 14:43:00,">>118396095 >t. AnCom",,Anonymous,1472655502104.jpg,WdDPAWzrk9OUBidtNsIW5A==,DE,,1490539380 118360932,118396336,2017-03-26 14:43:14,">>118387405 >you can sue. And who would enforce the sue? Who are the judges? Who pays them? What laws to they abide? How are these laws agreed upon?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490539394 118360932,118396362,2017-03-26 14:43:31,">>118396187 Yes, but like >>118396128 the feudal lord would not have power to force anyone to resort to him and him alone as a source of justice services. There would be free entry in that position.",,Anonymous,1461029508928.jpg,e7vmyynlh/1tuMX84HbbpQ==,PT,,1490539411 118360932,118396433,2017-03-26 14:44:01,">>118396307 I don't see any argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539441 118360932,118396445,2017-03-26 14:44:11,">>118395843 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs&feature=youtu.be Nice",,Anonymous,1490022445734.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,US,,1490539451 118360932,118396550,2017-03-26 14:44:54,">>118396362 >>118396128 Ah okay, makes a lot more sense now. Thanks gents",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539494 118360932,118396592,2017-03-26 14:45:20,">>118395273 This question would be decided in an entrepeneurial basis. People can't be forced to pay stuff that they don't use, but the entrepeneur can, with financing, build the road and put a toll booth. If the people actually uses it he earns money, if not, he made a bad decision and ends bankrupt. Roads ain't rocket science. >>118365213 This is the kind of crazy shit that I can actually imagine happening in Africa, lol.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539520 118360932,118396615,2017-03-26 14:45:34,"how do hoppeans justify borders if there's not gonna be anyone to enforce those borders or do you expect people will go out of their way to patrol the border every day without pay?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539534 118360932,118396623,2017-03-26 14:45:37,">>118396550 Also, the video >>118396445 makes a lot of sense.",,Anonymous,neon hoppe.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,PT,,1490539537 118360932,118396639,2017-03-26 14:45:46,">>118396433 >dude, people will magically be willing to share everything lmao Make up your mind before criticizing other ideologies.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490539546 118360932,118396709,2017-03-26 14:46:23,">>118396445 Cool but make the title better, see the comments in the vidme link bro",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490539583 118360932,118396724,2017-03-26 14:46:32,">>118396615 >if there's not gonna be anyone to enforce those borders pulling things out of your ass >patrol the border every day without pay? >without pay? if it's valuable to protect, people get paid",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490539592 118360932,118396829,2017-03-26 14:47:25,">>118396709 I see now, editing. h o p p e w 𝓪 v e . . . end democracy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539645 118360932,118396886,2017-03-26 14:47:57,">>118396615 Nation-state borders wouldn't exist. There would be thousands of small private ""borders"". Private communities, cities maybe. The most possible development in a private law society would be segregation. The point is that people enforces their sovereignty locally.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539677 118360932,118396897,2017-03-26 14:48:01,">>118396639 >if we don't have capitalism it means we're sharing everything No. My personal property is mine, and your personal property is yours. And our land doesn't belong to someone else who does not work on it.",,Anonymous,personal-vs-private-property.png,bOvVZE3n7UwFT2iX6Ge6fA==,US,,1490539681 118360932,118396915,2017-03-26 14:48:09,">>118396724 oh right, you're going to hire a group of people to protect everyone's border? and how can you trust they won't get bribed to let in thousands of commies?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539689 118360932,118397026,2017-03-26 14:49:03,">>118396886 if the USA gets rid of the govt and becomes ancap tomorrow, all the other countries still exist, retard",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539743 118360932,118397036,2017-03-26 14:49:10,">>118396915 You realize commies have no money right? So your example is impossible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539750 118360932,118397146,2017-03-26 14:50:00,">>118396897 >toothbrush",,Anonymous,1488666350583.jpg,wnGepDhdjV3xEeHWOXkOIQ==,DE,,1490539800 118360932,118397172,2017-03-26 14:50:13,">>118396915 >you own something >hire private policing >tell them you don't want niggers/mexicans around >>118397026 Your point being?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539813 118360932,118397207,2017-03-26 14:50:30,">>118396829 you're a cool one! awesome btw if anyone want's the 1440p version http://imgur.com/a/LmMlj",,Anonymous,1485968035670.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1490539830 118360932,118397248,2017-03-26 14:50:47,">>118397036 say a commie country wants to destroy you and bribes the private guards to let in people",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539847 118360932,118397324,2017-03-26 14:51:22,">>118396623 Just out of curiosity and delving into fantasy, do you think Tolkien was ancap? He seemed to have two types of ancap societies from what I could tell, so it made me wonder what he would have thought of ancap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539882 118360932,118397331,2017-03-26 14:51:25,">>118397207 >http://imgur.com/a/LmMlj awesome saved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539885 118360932,118397358,2017-03-26 14:51:38,">>118397172 you don't own the border you utter retard, I'm arguing that you can't be ancap and still mantain a national border",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539898 118360932,118397443,2017-03-26 14:52:23,">>118397248 say a commie country wants to destroy your country and bribes the state police to let in people The difference is that in private policing you can actually choose.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539943 118360932,118397460,2017-03-26 14:52:31,">>118397358 Yes, you can't, you maintain a private border. Discrimination is a right.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490539951 118360932,118397506,2017-03-26 14:52:51,">>118396336 >And who would enforce the sue? Insurers or individuals. But the theory is that insurers might be against vigilantism because they have to pay out compensation for further injustice. >Who are the judges? It'd be up to the insurers or individuals collaborating with insurers. >Who pays them? Depends on the case. I suppose 50/50 for arbitration. The loser for lawsuits. Insurers/losers for criminal proceedings. >What laws to they abide? The common law. >How are these laws agreed upon? Precedent. Also if judges make bad decisions they'll get phased out more effectively than under a monopoly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEQmuaJeew",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490539971 118360932,118397558,2017-03-26 14:53:16,">>118397460 well some """"""ancaps"""""" here are saying they still want a national border",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490539996 118360932,118397566,2017-03-26 14:53:19,">>118397248 they'd have to bribe alot of people to keep quite about it perhaps the whole force and agency in question. same thing could happemn to a state, tho very unlikely to succeed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490539999 118360932,118397588,2017-03-26 14:53:28,">>118397146 >amount of labor put into a product has jack shit to do with its value But this is false. You buy any product because you rather not do the labor to acquire it. If something was so available that it required no labor to acquire, why would you pay money for it?",,Anonymous,ltv-and-rich.png,q6/CI5WgvabngTvJnCNlHQ==,US,,1490540008 118360932,118397656,2017-03-26 14:53:57,">>118397358 >I'm arguing that you can't be ancap and still mantain a national border Eres un genio primo, no me había dado cuenta. Y ahora si me disculpas me apetece que me comas un poquito la polla, hijo de la gran puta.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490540037 118360932,118397842,2017-03-26 14:55:40,">>118397324 I haven't read Tolkien (I don't read fiction) so I can't possibly tell you.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490540140 118360932,118397886,2017-03-26 14:55:59,">>118397656 >point out how autistically retarded he is >answers in spanish like a brainlet who's been btfo and must recoil into his comfort zone stop replying to my posts, please, I'm trying to discuss things with people ITT",,Anonymous,1488914079863.jpg,Nyrb0MvTiGJaqPr3tyLMrw==,ES,,1490540159 118360932,118397893,2017-03-26 14:56:03,">>118397588 If it is so available that nobody wants to buy it, it won't be sold since there is no demand. Demand and offer are the only things determining the cost of a product.",,Anonymous,1489200381209.png,tq1mDmBSLQYEBP9Lyv1jvA==,DE,,1490540163 118360932,118398066,2017-03-26 14:57:25,">>118396592 Thanks for the answer. That of course sounds good in theory. But with a big project like a highway from coast to coast I dont see anybody taking the risk. If you have no organization at all, you would hav to ask every single person if it wants to get involved. And since its such a huge risk, most people propbably wouldnt be in it and would rather pay a toll if it gets bulit but I doubt any body would build it, because it would be financable and there would be to many people to convince about it. And still, what do you do when the land in the middle is owned by somebody and he just doesnt want a highway there? And if its enough people who dont want that highway you would have to build around it and the costs would exploe. I think its a nice theory but im not completely convinced it would work on a big scale. Look down in Africa, this is what comes next to AnCap and see where they are today.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490540245 118360932,118398591,2017-03-26 15:01:36,">>118398066 Somalia was shittier, if you can imagine such an existence, before it became basically stateless",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490540496 118360932,118398689,2017-03-26 15:02:25,Good thread,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490540545 118360932,118398907,2017-03-26 15:04:08,">>118397248 Anyone owning property inside the border can stop someone from entering their property. So let's go through an example to explain. There is a Border Protection company in AnCap land that owns a 10 foot line around the country and their job is to protect the border from communists. The king of the communists offers the head of the Border Protection company ten trillion dollars to let in communists so the head of the company accepts the bribe. A group of communists enter the country, but as soon as they reach the first person's property they are met with the barrel of a shotgun. The communists say they must be let through as the Border Protection company let them through the border. The AnCap citizen laughs at the commie and says ""No, you only have consent to stay on the ten foot border owned by the Border Protection company. Step on my property and meet your maker."" The communists screeches autistically and when their king attempts to get his money back from the Border Protection company all the AnCaps come out with guns. The AnCaps laugh as the sounds of autistic communist screeching is heard. The head of the AnCap's border protection has just gained ten trillion dollars and the country still has no communists. The communists, now without money, starve to death and the AnCaps save western civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490540648 118360932,118398934,2017-03-26 15:04:17,">>118397842 It's a good read, maybe watch the movies kek, but anyway could you explain how or point me to sources on how the economy would be like?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490540657 118360932,118398992,2017-03-26 15:04:52,">>118397588 There is no correlation between the quantity of work and the value of something. Just because everything needs work to be produced it doesn't mean that it's the only or even main factor in it's value. >spend 20 hours digging a hole >Want to someone pay me for it >>118397886 >he brags about how great his english is as if it had merit, just as third worlders do. >he says he wants to ""discuss"" stuff but he keeps calling everyone names. Y sin dientes, por favor, que tengo el frenillo sensible. >>118398066 As far as I know most of Africa is so underdeveloped because they do almost not have property rights, often have absurdly high taxation and the culture is highly tribalistic and therefore is based in communal-familiar ownership. People aren't allowed to progress individually. This, at least is what I took from this picture and many other sources. If you take your time later to read this picture I just attached you might get some insights on why Africa is so poor. And of course, the Somalia meme: Somalia is actually the corpse of a failed socialist republic. Very few people ever care to notice that. I hoppe I was helpful.",,Anonymous,peace corps in Africa.jpg,4Al8tIML26J3jEgT8a7nww==,ES,,1490540692 118360932,118399051,2017-03-26 15:05:21,">>118397893 >If it is so available that nobody wants to buy it, it won't be sold since there is no demand. >doesn't know about inelasticity There is high demand for air, despite the fact that it is an abundant resource and people expect not to pay for it. According to you, labor does not affect the value of a product. If this is true, then that means that exchange itself can create value, and we should be able to identify an object that requires no labor to produce at all, but still has value. No such object exists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490540721 118360932,118399200,2017-03-26 15:06:37,">>118397506 Some good answers thanks. But Im a litte suspicious of these ""insurers"". They seem far to powerful for such a free society.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490540797 118360932,118399228,2017-03-26 15:06:49,">>118397842 Tolkien has stated publicly he was always moving toward an anarchical ideology and he thought the voluntarily organized society of the Hobbits to be close to ideal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490540809 118360932,118399285,2017-03-26 15:07:18,">>118398934 I've seen LOTR tho, it's my favorite fantasy film. As for the sources on how it would look like, see Hoppe's books posted in the OP or articles on the Mises Institute.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490540838 118360932,118399354,2017-03-26 15:07:57,">>118399051 >what is scarcity?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490540877 118360932,118399538,2017-03-26 15:09:36,">>118399354 A scarce object requires more labor to acquire than an abundant object.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490540976 118360932,118399805,2017-03-26 15:11:45,">>118398992 Ok I reckon Africa was a bad example, but I still think AnCap could work grat on a small scale but I dont see it working on a large scale like the US. At least not that anything bigger than the road to your nighbour gets built. No space programm, no particle accelerator, no hubble, no universities, no Hoover-Dam, no highways, etc.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490541105 118360932,118399828,2017-03-26 15:11:59,">>118398066 You wouldn't build roads coast to coast. At least not initially. First you connect major towns and these roads connect the coast. If you connect the major cities the roads are coast to coast they just weren't specifically built for that purpose. If there is a landowner who doesn't want a road on their land you can either tunnel under or build a bridge above, which does increase costs. but not by as much as building around the area. Secondly who doesn't want a road to their house? If you don't have a road to your house it gets very hard to live there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490541119 118360932,118399879,2017-03-26 15:12:21,">>118399538 But if nobody wants it it won't cost much, because you wouldn't be able to sell it, despite it requiring more work.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490541141 118400421,118400421,2017-03-26 15:16:32,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs","/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General: ""New Hoppewave Videos"" Edition",Anonymous,lrg.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,PT,,1490541392 118400421,118400536,2017-03-26 15:17:20,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,hoppe physical removal-min.png,xWbOH+078M65hA7wPGUoXQ==,PT,,1490541440 118400421,118400604,2017-03-26 15:17:54,,,Anonymous,hoppewave 2.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,PT,,1490541474 118400421,118401241,2017-03-26 15:23:07,">>118400421 >physical remo- violation of the NAP. Someone phone number for McDonalds® Death Squad®.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490541787 118400421,118401247,2017-03-26 15:23:09,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490541789 118400421,118401461,2017-03-26 15:24:47,"It's a shame that Hans Herman Hoppe is always associated with these ""physical removal"" and ""helicopter"" memes. The majority of his ideology is about peace, well-being and justice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490541887 118400421,118401616,2017-03-26 15:25:57,">>118401461 And what is physical removal other than the maintenance of peace and well-being?",,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1490541957 118400421,118401756,2017-03-26 15:27:03,">>118401461 you're right, but that kind of imagery keeps nu-/pol/ from getting triggered by these threads",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490542023 118400421,118401873,2017-03-26 15:27:56,">>118401616 >>And what is physical removal other than the maintenance of peace and well-being? violence?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490542076 118400421,118402030,2017-03-26 15:29:02,">>118401873 Ultra-violence.",,Anonymous,1488739999641.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1490542142 118400421,118402155,2017-03-26 15:30:02,"Hell yeah, just ordered ""For a New Liberty"" by Rothbard, it's boutta be lit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490542202 118400421,118402528,2017-03-26 15:32:49,">>118402030 Nothing wrong with a bit of the old ultraviolence and the ol' in-out.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490542369 118400421,118402766,2017-03-26 15:34:31,">>118402528 Viddy well, brothers. Viddy well.",,Anonymous,image-w1280.jpg,EktGWZk0dYElIzZYZndIBg==,PT,,1490542471 118400421,118402828,2017-03-26 15:34:59,">>118399200 >suspicious of these ""insurers"" As long as the majority is on board with the freedom to switch these insurers at will, you'll be fine. If the insurer gets uppity you deal with them the way you would with any rogue government. Except now you'll likely receive help from competing insurers hoping to get subscribers and preventing a rise of state.",,Anonymous,1466317111377.jpg,x9z4dlP7muUfasNJPvXe5g==,SI,,1490542499 118400421,118403925,2017-03-26 15:43:11,">>118402828 Checked. Also, you're spot on on the fact that the entire premise of this working is that we end the state's monopolistic exploitation of working people. Eliminate the state's monopoly on protection and you'll have freely-financed insurance agencies working to lower premium costs and promote civilized behavior.",,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1490542991 118400421,118404047,2017-03-26 15:44:06,"I must say that these two writings >A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism >From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy Are genuinely incredibly. It changed all my preconceptions about the most basic topics, and made me see them in an entirely new way. It's weird to see how democracy is so fervently pushed in our schools and how we all come to believe in it like a religion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543046 118400421,118404552,2017-03-26 15:47:55,">>118404047 The thing is, democracy has never really been natural here in Europe, so the only way to uphold it is by indoctrinating every citizen from birth. Public education is the best tool to raise children into adults that don't question government legitimacy. But saying that will get you called an evil nazi here, which is incredibly paradox, but those lefties strucken with cognitive dissonance won't realize how absurd their accusations are. Times are crazy, I tell you.",,Anonymous,1480860698215.jpg,5K0KG3GXVST/qs4UwOngfg==,DE,,1490543275 118400421,118404733,2017-03-26 15:49:16,">>118400421 What would hoppe society do about sick people",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490543356 118400421,118405045,2017-03-26 15:51:37,">>118404733 Families or private/community organizations take care of them.",,Anonymous,holy roman empire.png,CWtbYwgPfBbug6DRNImmXQ==,PT,,1490543497 118400421,118405210,2017-03-26 15:52:59,">>118400421 You know your place, m8.",,Anonymous,1480126998657.png,WiK9rM+grB2kWoGnaZCMqg==,PT,,1490543579 118400421,118405326,2017-03-26 15:53:44,">>118405210 DELET",,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1490543624 118400421,118405344,2017-03-26 15:53:49,">>118405045 would they not be considered parasites and be physically removed, if no one took care of them?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490543629 118400421,118405379,2017-03-26 15:54:04,">>118400421 Why do lolbertarians think they are right wing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543644 118400421,118405664,2017-03-26 15:56:19,">>118405379 Why do National SOCIALISTS think they are right wing?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490543779 118400421,118405678,2017-03-26 15:56:22,">>118405379 Because we are, fag.",,Anonymous,hoppewave.jpg,ia2+0pGzR738bf2zAn3onQ==,PT,,1490543782 118400421,118405842,2017-03-26 15:57:35,">>118405344 Autistically speaking, yes they would be parasites, but people would of course take care of their sick loved ones. Being some degenerate who leaves their family members to die because they're sick is a symptom of psychopathy and sociopaths, and these people would most likely be ostracized or shunned for their ways.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1490543855 118400421,118405872,2017-03-26 15:57:50,">>118405379 Why do NatSocs and neo-cons think they're anything but Shariah law supporters with a white coat of paint?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490543870 118400421,118405908,2017-03-26 15:58:05,">>118400421 Laissez faire dudes",,Anonymous,IMG_2945.jpg,CtkhpLPQGlofmp9JchHlBg==,US,,1490543885 118400421,118406067,2017-03-26 15:59:16,">>118405344 Also, retarded people and parasitic people are largely a result of dysgenic upbringing and incentives that states provide for people to be unhealthy, neurotic and worthless. Remove welfare and statism and you'd remove the incentives to become ill or sick, or to be lazy or a bum.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1490543956 118400421,118406581,2017-03-26 16:03:00,"Hoppe on the relationship between democracy and the rise of property expropriation, envy, de-civilization and degeneracy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4EGi2Re0EY",,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,YFidbdxwx5ajR3h2gOA+0A==,PT,,1490544180 118400421,118406991,2017-03-26 16:05:55,"Lew Rockwell interviews Hoppe on ""Democracy—The God That Failed"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eix6V1w2BOo",,Anonymous,helicopter.png,wIxmmn+QFSYAExv43emNyw==,PT,,1490544355 118400421,118407197,2017-03-26 16:07:27,">>118406581 >>118406991 Add these to the OP stuff",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490544447 118400421,118407527,2017-03-26 16:10:07,Friendly reminder that 'anarcho'-capitalism is not a form of anarchism and is better called neo-feudalism.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490544607 118400421,118407796,2017-03-26 16:12:11,">>118400421 Is that Elton John in your pic m8?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490544731 118400421,118408948,2017-03-26 16:20:54,">>118407197 I will, thanks for reminding me.",,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1490545254 118400421,118410488,2017-03-26 16:32:26,bump,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490545946 118400421,118410609,2017-03-26 16:33:23,">>118400421 >>118407527 >>118404552 GET IN HERE FAGGOTS: >>118409577 >>118409577 >>118409577",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490546003 118400421,118411125,2017-03-26 16:37:16,">>118410609 fuck off Austria",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1490546236 118400421,118412152,2017-03-26 16:44:38,bump,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490546678 118400421,118412704,2017-03-26 16:48:21,">>118410609 get in here, faggot >>>/r/eddit/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490546901 118400421,118414345,2017-03-26 16:59:15,bump. keeping this thread alive for backup when the other is archived,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1490547555 118400421,118415790,2017-03-26 17:08:55,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1490548135 118400421,118417492,2017-03-26 17:21:03,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1490548863 118400628,118400628,2017-03-26 15:18:12,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: AnarchoKek edition.,Anonymous,ancap frog2.jpg,DnoGsboD7eP0A5JrfQP9Hw==,ES,,1490541492 118400628,118400761,2017-03-26 15:19:19,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,liberty reading list.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,ES,,1490541559 118400628,118400837,2017-03-26 15:20:00,,,Anonymous,HHH2.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,ES,,1490541600 118400628,118401118,2017-03-26 15:22:12,Yeah Baby Yeah!,,Anonymous,Enlightened.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1490541732 118400628,118401169,2017-03-26 15:22:31,"[Last thread maxed and 404'd] >>118397588 There is no correlation between the quantity of work and the value of something. Just because everything needs work to be produced it doesn't mean that it's the only or even main factor in it's value. >spend 20 hours digging a hole >Want to someone pay me for it >>118397886 >he brags about how great his english is as if it had merit, just as third worlders do. >he says he wants to ""discuss"" stuff but he keeps calling everyone names. Y sin dientes, por favor, que tengo el frenillo sensible. >>118398066 As far as I know most of Africa is so underdeveloped because they do almost not have property rights, often have absurdly high taxation and the culture is highly tribalistic and therefore is based in communal-familiar ownership. People aren't allowed to progress individually. This, at least is what I took from this picture and many other sources. If you take your time later to read this picture I just attached you might get some insights on why Africa is so poor. And of course, the Somalia meme: Somalia is actually the corpse of a failed socialist republic. Very few people ever care to notice that. I hoppe I was helpful.",,Anonymous,peace corps in Africa.jpg,4Al8tIML26J3jEgT8a7nww==,ES,,1490541751 118400628,118401882,2017-03-26 15:27:59,I'll continue to bump this thing.,,Anonymous,AnarchistGadsden.png,YB/46et2ZZC+7S0LzOEFsA==,US,,1490542079 118400628,118403026,2017-03-26 15:36:31,,,Anonymous,15420986_10100459173461539_5358652656821799746_n.jpg,gjm5N12fS0kVmkLiORWcKw==,US,,1490542591 118400628,118403064,2017-03-26 15:36:49,im jew desu,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490542609 118400628,118403435,2017-03-26 15:39:41,">>118400628 bump for curiosity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490542781 118400628,118403653,2017-03-26 15:41:11,">>118403435 where do you want to start, my dude?",,Anonymous,ancap studies.jpg,633R097y241WnUp1zEPq2A==,ES,,1490542871 118400628,118403677,2017-03-26 15:41:22,"https://freech net/intb/res/114387.html fuck off spain",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490542882 118400628,118404008,2017-03-26 15:43:50,">>118400628 libertarians are just liberals in disguise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543030 118400628,118404192,2017-03-26 15:45:05,">>118403653 I saw the last thread and thought it was really good. Really (actually) made me think, one thing I am curious though is how the economics of ancap would work. What type of currency as well if any (fiat, resource based, precious metals)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543105 118400628,118404406,2017-03-26 15:46:46,,,Anonymous,1488123110664.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,DE,,1490543206 118400628,118404598,2017-03-26 15:48:15,"hello im ancap pic is me rate",,Anonymous,967fe67d69884131a9d82e3037fc7743-imagepng.jpg,F89QwrsOkCPFOeBz+Y/Jeg==,NL,,1490543295 118400628,118404677,2017-03-26 15:48:50,">>118404192 There might not be a central currency at all. Whatever the trading parties agree to in their exchange.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543330 118400628,118405178,2017-03-26 15:52:43,">>118404677 Huh, is there any historical evidence or anything similar that you can point to so I can get a grasp on it? I actually like the sounds of it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543563 118400628,118405209,2017-03-26 15:52:59,">>118404598 i want you to stick that honker where it doesn't belongker",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543579 118400628,118405362,2017-03-26 15:53:58,">>118400628 Oh look ancap Spain from freech is back. I forget. Do you guys believe in immigration controls?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543638 118400628,118405396,2017-03-26 15:54:11,">>118404598 Lies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543651 118400628,118405407,2017-03-26 15:54:17,">>118404192 >>118405178 Well, regards currency, if you look monetary history you'll find that it is something that appears naturally, because it is something that simplifies trade a lot and makes calculating the value of things possible. Fiat currency is something that was first invented in China (aka in an oriental despotism) and can only exist through centralized violence, that is people being forced to use that and not anything else. If you are really interested in the history of money I would reccomend you you check Mike Maloney's five episode documentary on the history of money, it talks about things that are happening today with the federal reserve and the fiat monetary system we are using today since 1971. ""Hidden Secrets of Money"" is a great documentary for this: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE88E9ICdipidHkTehs1VbFzgwrq1jkUJ",,Anonymous,capt17.jpg,nCOlb29wLN2WhBC+gJ7FmQ==,ES,,1490543657 118400628,118405549,2017-03-26 15:55:26,bigdickbitch,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543726 118400628,118405754,2017-03-26 15:56:54,"Honest question for libertarians If you remove a state system, how do you manage your own infrastructure and utilities? Would someone just be expected to make a business that does that? How would they be regulated?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490543814 118400628,118405963,2017-03-26 15:58:29,>>118404598,,Anonymous,tmp_20261-ykczdr53xiky255588672.jpg,Fb9QGzl81oqBs7yHEUhLwQ==,US,,1490543909 118400628,118406077,2017-03-26 15:59:24,">>118405963 don't post my personal twitter you fucking stalker",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490543964 118400628,118406176,2017-03-26 16:00:01,">>118404192 >What type of currency I was listening to Hoppe's lectures on banking the other day. And he mentioned something about currencies being tied to bundles of resources. For example one ""dollar"" could include such and such amount of gold, silver, oil, whatever you want to give it more stability. So it would probably depend on local availability as well. Was an interesting proposition. Also there's cryptocurrencies now as well. Somewhere in this series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3PKHVbOet8 Also central banks counterfeiting isn't exactly great for the economy. The expansion of the economy should be determined with savings not printing up cash and essentially forcing the entire population to subsidize bank loans.",,Anonymous,1465892670612.gif,mBARi/u0WL7KghckzsI2xw==,SI,,1490544001 118400628,118406266,2017-03-26 16:00:43,">>118406077 Let me at that boipussy gurl.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490544043 118400628,118406327,2017-03-26 16:01:15,"Chello, reporting back in: I've started reading ""Anatomy of the State"" and already first chapter in I was shocked to be honest, because similar to what he described when saying people refer to the government/state as ""we"": >we are the government Although I was ranting often like ""mimimi politicians do what they want"" but still resorted back to the ""we"" all the time. I was actually more shocked than what I would've expected ... which is quite drastic in itself to be fucking honest. Also his description of how the state preserves itself seems accurate to a worrying level ... to put it ""nicely"". ...especially >Another successful device was to instill fear of any alternative systems of rule or nonrule",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490544075 118400628,118406356,2017-03-26 16:01:26,">>118400628 Can we get this to be a regular thing again? Fuck commie general scum though.",,Statue of David,,,US,,1490544086 118400628,118406402,2017-03-26 16:01:44,">>118400628 >removal of communist fags Come and try, porky.",,Anonymous,1490490176539.jpg,4v0Qk5Hd9OmtdfK2zg7NOA==,NL,,1490544104 118400628,118406416,2017-03-26 16:01:49,">>118406266 stop creep",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490544109 118400628,118406524,2017-03-26 16:02:35,">>118400628 >But what about the ROOOOOAAAAADDDDDSSSSS >heheh, gotcha now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490544155 118400628,118406670,2017-03-26 16:03:36,">>118406077 Img search! Omg the future is here!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490544216 118400628,118406939,2017-03-26 16:05:34,">>118405963 Still looks like a man in a dress. I guess that's because its a man in a dress. No amount of progressive nonsense is going to change the objective reality that this is a man in a dress.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490544334 118400628,118407078,2017-03-26 16:06:34,">>118406402 Kys or ill get the helicopter running",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490544394 118400628,118407094,2017-03-26 16:06:40,"THREAD THEME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-33cuur-hTc",,Anonymous,ancap3.jpg,wiST80grbqyKzTU+aK2kjA==,US,,1490544400 118400628,118407482,2017-03-26 16:09:47,">>118405963 whomstdn't is this qt pie netherland poster?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490544587 118400628,118407560,2017-03-26 16:10:21,">>118405754 Yes those industries would be private operations. They'd be related by people's willingness to fund their services.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490544621 118400628,118407574,2017-03-26 16:10:27,">>118400628 No treading boys",,Anonymous,IMG_2928.jpg,yJnhVfZu0GUuSuf8nSnTEg==,US,,1490544627 118400628,118407603,2017-03-26 16:10:41,">>118406176 >For example one ""dollar"" could include such and such amount of gold, silver, oil, whatever you want As a matter of fact, the name of many currencies historically reflect this: Many of the names of currencies are words for measures of weight. A british ""pound"" used to be worth a literal pound of sterling silver. Same with the ""peso"" of many hispanic countries, which literally means ""weight"" and the spanish ""peseta"" which means small weight. >>118406356 Well, if you want you could save or bookmark the url of the pastebin in the OP and open one thread from time to time, that's what I'll be doing too. >>118406327 AotS is great but since I already read For a New Liberty it felt kinda redundant so despite it being way shorter I couldn't get myself to it. I felt this kind of feeling too. It was like some sort of anguish, like you discover that you have been lied to and kept in ignorance all your life. Rothbard's writings are powerful stuff. >>118405754 Private companies already build infrastructure today, the only part of the equation that would be missing is the financing part (no more with taxpayer money) that would then become an entrepeneurial question, not a political one. If Musk can build fuckin spaceships someone will be able to build roads (and other infrastructure). This article dispels many questions too: https://fee.org/articles/the-private-road-to-freedom/",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490544641 118400628,118407627,2017-03-26 16:10:53,">>118400628 Nice collection of hoppe resources, especially translations available here http://www.hanshoppe.com",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490544653 118400628,118407691,2017-03-26 16:11:26,">>118407560 Regulated* not related.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490544686 118400628,118408007,2017-03-26 16:13:48,Bump for the only good general on /pol/,,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490544828 118400628,118408058,2017-03-26 16:14:12,">>118400628 LITERAL NIGGERS I T E R A L N I G G E R S",,Anonymous,Literal Niggers.jpg,HfVh3uompy/n/S0U1Gxg2A==,US,,1490544852 118400628,118408099,2017-03-26 16:14:31,">>118407482 me from freech",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490544871 118400628,118408196,2017-03-26 16:15:20,">>118407603 >Many of the names of currencies are words for measures of weight That's true but if you're trying to tie it a bundle of resources the measurement becomes kinda obsolete because you'd obviously want different amounts. So best way to think of that sort of currency would be like an index but for resources. >>118407094 >copyright STATE REEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,Copyright.png,G0ULjEHIv7k6U4CfVsvUSg==,SI,,1490544920 118400628,118408210,2017-03-26 16:15:28,Minarchism is way better than this trash,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490544928 118400628,118408324,2017-03-26 16:16:23,"Hey guys, one question I'm finding hard to easily answer here is the one about potential invasion or group takeovers (eg muzzies) etc. I haven't read hoppes Private Production of Security yet. Any one help with some short answers?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490544983 118400628,118408388,2017-03-26 16:16:48,">>118400628 National socialism blows ""libertarianism"" put of the water. You guys are as bad as leftist a.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545008 118400628,118408407,2017-03-26 16:16:57,">>118408210 But who will prevent people from building roads?",,Anonymous,1ad6259918981df27fe93a872755cf650a7ced3c897e22695f3369892e0fc1f2_1.jpg,971l7sFnSZBYwT9RmwkNDQ==,US,,1490545017 118400628,118408487,2017-03-26 16:17:38,">neo-feudalists thinking that capitalism is compatible with anarchism. http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF1",,Anonymous,vOo1QXj.jpg,Pxc0lf4ByVT57OkoFJD9Rg==,GB,,1490545058 118400628,118408564,2017-03-26 16:18:08,">>118408324 >short answers Guns and nukes.",,Anonymous,Recreational nuke.webm,ETVFhdPqg5wPusJt2A1T1w==,SI,,1490545088 118400628,118408567,2017-03-26 16:18:10,">>118408210 correct >>118408388 hile hitley",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490545090 118400628,118408574,2017-03-26 16:18:14,">>118407482 UniformEchoCharlie this is SevenAlphaPlus, you're comming in broken and stupid, *break* check connections and say again. OVER.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545094 118400628,118408608,2017-03-26 16:18:32,">>118408388 >you guys are as bad as the left >advocating national SOCIALISM Follow your leader anon",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490545112 118400628,118408783,2017-03-26 16:19:43,">>118408608 Not an argument What's one country that has implement libertarian policies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545183 118400628,118408826,2017-03-26 16:19:59,">>118408487 >communist thinking that an antifa website is a valid source on anarchism",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490545199 118400628,118408838,2017-03-26 16:20:04,">Criticisms of Anarcho-Capitalism Criticisms of anarcho-capitalism include moral criticisms, pragmatic criticisms, the argument that anarcho-capitalism could not be maintained, and the argument that a society can be anarchist or capitalist, but not both.",,Anonymous,01.jpg,0wssGHuGQnNbysQE7Hs3NQ==,US,,1490545204 118400628,118408846,2017-03-26 16:20:08,">>118408210 Minarchism is a welfare state for the rich.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490545208 118400628,118408852,2017-03-26 16:20:11,">>118406176 >I was listening to Hoppe's lectures on banking the other day. And he mentioned something about currencies being tied to bundles of resources You must have not listened to the whole thing, he was saying how that wouldn't be a good idea as a currency tied to a bundle of goods is always less liquid than the most liquid good.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490545211 118400628,118409039,2017-03-26 16:21:34,">Justice and Defense Some critics argue that anarcho-capitalism turns justice into a commodity; private defense and court firms would favour those who pay more for their services. Randall G. Holcombe argues that defense agencies could form cartels and oppress people without fear of competition. Philosopher Albert Meltzer argued that since anarcho-capitalism promotes the idea of private armies, it actually supports a ""limited State."" He contends that it ""is only possible to conceive of an Anarchism which is free, communistic and offering no economic necessity for repression of countering it."" [1/3]",,Anonymous,02.jpg,pdzb5sac2+7R+okCQINxrQ==,US,,1490545294 118400628,118409042,2017-03-26 16:21:35,">>118408783 Any country raked high in economic freedom index",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490545295 118400628,118409052,2017-03-26 16:21:41,">>118408196 The thing is that this would be done privately, with many banks emitting their own money (gold/silver backed bills or whatever else) so you would be free to choose whatever standard would be more fitting for you. Businesses would probably adapt and make some sort of reference guide that includes most currencies. That or they would place a sticker in the entrance informing you which currencies they do accept before you enter. >>118408487 Cool image bro. The difference is that anyone can become a land owner. Not in gommunism bro. Please explain to me the difference between the party's chairman and a feudal lord. Oh yes, the feudal lord doesn't have as much power to commit injustice.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490545301 118400628,118409177,2017-03-26 16:22:35,">>118408487 >literally abandon state >individual governance >adding the concept of property and free market is not possible t.punk antifa",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490545355 118400628,118409193,2017-03-26 16:22:41,"Robert Nozick argues in Anarchy, State, and Utopia that an anarcho-capitalist society would inevitably transform into a minarchist state through the eventual emergence of a monopolistic private defense and judicial agency that no longer faces competition. He argues that anarcho-capitalism results in an unstable system that would not endure in the real world. Paul Birch argues that legal disputes involving several jurisdictions and different legal systems will be too complex and costly. Thus, the largest private protection business in a territory will develop into a natural monopoly. [2/3]",,Anonymous,03.jpg,UViWM+95HgwZNiYMabrLxA==,US,,1490545361 118400628,118409255,2017-03-26 16:23:12,">>118408783 Straight libertarianism is fundamentally classical liberal, so many euro govts and certainly post civil war England and early america",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490545392 118400628,118409277,2017-03-26 16:23:21,">>118408852 All right. So it's back to gold then? Well whatever people choose I suppose.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490545401 118400628,118409331,2017-03-26 16:23:46,">>118405963 >when Jews falls for the jewish degeneracy propaganda",,Anonymous,jewish-trans-and-proud.png,gZ3Kyqg2LNK+D6bKQAuLUQ==,GB,,1490545426 118400628,118409478,2017-03-26 16:24:55,">>118409193 But the law of diminishing returns prevents this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545495 118400628,118409579,2017-03-26 16:25:52,"Anarcho-capitalists counter that this argument is circular, claiming monopolies are artificial constructs that can only be maintained by political immunity to natural market processes, or by perpetual provision of superior quality products and services. Unless competitors are prevented from entering a market, the profit incentive, which is fueled by constant demand for improvement, proportionately draws them into it. Furthermore, as demonstrated by the medieval systems in Ireland and Iceland, treating the right to justice as a property means that it is sold - not purchased - by victims. [3/3]",,Anonymous,04.jpg,lWitatHXrw1fC+z3GI0Rrg==,US,,1490545552 118400628,118409588,2017-03-26 16:25:55,">>118409042 Shirty answer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545555 118400628,118409623,2017-03-26 16:26:10,">>118401169 that image is incredibly depressing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545570 118400628,118409734,2017-03-26 16:26:56,"Why do so many libertarians get autism? Is it really that cancerous an ideology? reason.com/blog/2011/07/20/being-libertarian-may-cause-au www.zerothposition.com/2016/07/22/an-overview-of-autistic-libertarianism/ righteousmind.com/largest-study-of-libertarian-psych/ https://www.quora.com/Are-there-disproportionately-many-libertarians-with-Aspergers-Syndrome-If-so-why https://reece.liberty.me/an-overview-of-autistic-libertarianism/ www.autismpolicyblog.com/2012/10/libertarians-and-autism.html How do we deal with the LQ(Libertarian/autist Question)?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1490545616 118400628,118409785,2017-03-26 16:27:20,"So in a stateless environment what prevents a company from doing what early mining companies did and murder people if they didn't sell their land? Would it require that the people rise up against the company?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545640 118400628,118409792,2017-03-26 16:27:23,">Rights and freedom Many anarcho-capitalists believe that negative rights should be recognized as legitimate but positive rights should be rejected. — a stance that critics[who?] dismiss as unethical or selfish. Some critics, including Noam Chomsky, reject the distinction between positive and negative rights. Chomsky said, ""Anarcho-capitalism, in my opinion, is a doctrinal system which, if ever implemented, would lead to forms of tyranny and oppression that have few counterparts in human history. There isn't the slightest possibility that its (in my view, horrendous) ideas would be implemented, because they would quickly destroy any society that made this colossal error. The idea of ""free contract"" between the potentate and his starving subject is a sick joke, perhaps worth some moments in an academic seminar exploring the consequences of (in my view, absurd) ideas, but nowhere else"".",,Anonymous,05.jpg,AEH5iQqfRTDNVFG9qX24Fw==,US,,1490545643 118400628,118409948,2017-03-26 16:28:31,">>118408574 ANIME over >>118408099 wow you're cute >>118408210 this",,Anonymous,1490548762742.gif,4s5tHZdIDyqEFliuZ07hBg==,SE,,1490545711 118400628,118410024,2017-03-26 16:29:03,">Economics and Property Most anarchists argue that certain capitalist transactions are not voluntary, and that maintaining the class structure of a capitalist society requires coercion, which violates anarchist principles. David Graeber noted his skepticism about anarcho-capitalism along the same lines. >To be honest I'm pretty skeptical about the idea of anarcho-capitalism. If a-caps imagine a world divided into property-holding employers and property-less wage laborers, but with no systematic coercive mechanisms ... well, I just can't see how it would work. You always see a-caps saying ""if I want to hire someone to pick my tomatoes, how are you going to stop me without using coercion?"" Notice how you never see anyone say ""if I want to hire myself out to pick someone else's tomatoes, how are you going to stop me?"" Historically nobody ever did wage labor like that if they had pretty much ANY other option. [1/3]",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545743 118400628,118410098,2017-03-26 16:29:33,">>118409331 Dollars to bagles its a bait pic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545773 118400628,118410169,2017-03-26 16:30:07,">>118409623 Africa is depressing, anon. They'll never carry their own weight. And we can blame the +1 billion nogs in this planet to the industrial civilization Westerners brought there. Without it their population would have continued to be kept in check by mother nature. Colonialism was a mistake. >>118409734 (you)",,Anonymous,blackpop.jpg,gZzgZnWEtf2uK+2dcnAHqw==,ES,,1490545807 118400628,118410178,2017-03-26 16:30:11,">>118409588 Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490545811 118400628,118410271,2017-03-26 16:30:49,"Some critics argue that the anarcho-capitalist concept of voluntary choice ignores constraints due to both human and non-human factors, such as the need for food and shelter, and active restriction of both used and unused resources by those enforcing property claims. Thus, if a person requires employment in order to feed and house himself, the employer-employee relationship cannot be voluntary. Another criticism is that employment is involuntary because the economic system that makes it necessary for some individuals to serve others is supported by the enforcement of coercive private property systems. In his book Anarchism: Arguments For and Against, Albert Meltzer argues: >Commonsense shows that any capitalist society might dispense with a 'State' . . . but it could not dispense with organised government, or a privatised form of it, if there were people amassing money and others working to amass it for them. The philosophy of 'anarcho-capitalism' dreamed up by the 'libertarian' New Right, has nothing to do with Anarchism as known by the Anarchist movement proper. It is a lie . . . Patently unbridled capitalism . . . needs some force at its disposal to maintain class privileges, either from the State itself or from private armies. What they believe in is in fact a limited State -- that is, one in which the State has one function, to protect the ruling class, does not interfere with exploitation, and comes as cheap as possible for the ruling class. The idea also serves another purpose . . . a moral justification for bourgeois consciences in avoiding taxes without feeling guilty about it.",,Anonymous,06.jpg,rT/6g1RZbW5yzmrdLOI+BQ==,US,,1490545849 118400628,118410394,2017-03-26 16:31:42,">>118409734 ""Get"" autism? It's now a disease? Whats the RNaught?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545902 118400628,118410475,2017-03-26 16:32:19,">>118409792 >>118409785 Someone close the window it's getting shilly in here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490545939 118400628,118410482,2017-03-26 16:32:21,">>118409039 >turns justice into a commodity It's already a commodity. Like governments know how to direct security funds. And they're ver efficient as well. >favour those who pay more for their services As if they don't already. The wealthy have more sway on politicians and receive favours in return. The common person deciding with his wallet would have more of a voice in absence of government. >oppress people without fear of competition How's a government monopoly any different? With this argument the only thing saving you is how brainwashed government employees are. If these employees are raised under an ancap system hopefully they'd become fond of freedom and maintaining it. >limited State Individuals defending their property is fine. Ancap does not mean pacifism.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490545941 118400628,118410575,2017-03-26 16:33:08,">>118410482 >they're ver efficient they're not very*",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490545988 118400628,118410589,2017-03-26 16:33:12,"Some critics regard private property to either be an aggressive institution or a potentially aggressive one, rather than a defensive one, and thus reject claims that relationships based on unequal private property relations could be voluntary. Some philosophies view any ownership claims on land and natural resources as immoral and illegitimate. Some libertarian critics of anarcho-capitalism who support the full privatization of capital, such as geolibertarians, argue that land and the raw materials of nature remain a distinct factor of production and cannot be justly converted to private property because they are not products of human labor. Some socialists, including other market anarchists such as mutualists, adamantly oppose absentee ownership. Anarcho-capitalists have strong abandonment criteria—one maintains ownership (more or less) until one agrees to trade or gift it. Anti-state critics of this view tend to have comparatively weak abandonment criteria; for example, one loses ownership (more or less) when one stops personally occupying and using it. Also, the idea of perpetually binding original appropriation is anathema to socialism and traditional schools of anarchism, as well as to any moral or economic philosophy that takes equal natural rights to land and the earth's resources as a premise. Anarcho-capitalists counter that property is not only natural, but unavoidable, citing the Soviet Union as an inevitable result of its prohibition/ collectivization - which eliminates the incentives and accountability of ownership, and blackens markets. Kosanke further challenges what he perceives as egalitarian dogma by demonstrating that all costs of living are naturally determined, subject to a variety of factors, and can not be politically manipulated without net negative consequences. [3/3]",,Anonymous,07.jpg,TYpLqlfKsWncsJRu+BEl9g==,US,,1490545992 118400628,118410592,2017-03-26 16:33:14,">>118409193 https://mises.org/library/fear-monopoly",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490545994 118400628,118410743,2017-03-26 16:34:23,">>118410169 Somebody contracted out that depressing graphic Nigeria.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490546063 118400628,118410805,2017-03-26 16:34:48,">>118409734 Same reason liberals are reported as being more intelligent that conservatives. Cos people are full of shit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490546088 118400628,118411091,2017-03-26 16:36:57,">>118408210 How do you keep a minarchist state? You're not keeping it through democracy.",,Anonymous,1452056754826.jpg,4H318FYdV1w3xweP3hRilw==,SI,,1490546217 118400628,118411095,2017-03-26 16:36:59,">>118410475 Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490546219 118400628,118411240,2017-03-26 16:38:05,">>118410589 The gal in your pic looks like she smokes a lot of cigarettes. She's kinda skeezy and gross.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490546285 118400628,118411245,2017-03-26 16:38:06,"Give me a second to read all of the comments so I have a chance to respond. I was just posting the obligatory criticisms of anarcho-capitalism articles. Libertarians are fine but anarcho-capitalist should be executed alongside socialist. >>118410805 Wrong.",,Anonymous,08.jpg,NdDCcVZIl9NVQZ0eGT7vbQ==,US,,1490546286 118400628,118411401,2017-03-26 16:39:16,">>118411091 You don't. Any state on a long enoucgh scale will tend to grow. Any state even minarchist is setting up your grandkids for poverty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490546356 118400628,118411759,2017-03-26 16:41:49,>>118411240,,Anonymous,tmp_20261-Qcf5ces757250015.jpg,TNEF7tBIC4XW2TOUYJgyNg==,US,,1490546509 118400628,118411979,2017-03-26 16:43:14,">>118411091 Well, to be fair the American Constitution experiment lasted a couple hundred years before reaching today's current levels of tyranny. A constitutional republic can work for a really long term, even though it will end degenerating into democracy with time. Even though I don't advocate for it we can say that it really has merit.",,Anonymous,layers of secessionism.jpg,op35mgX+umOfdH8k2ibzZg==,ES,,1490546594 118400628,118412031,2017-03-26 16:43:37,"Threadly reminder right-""libertarianism"" is statist sophistry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vGBs58TDw",,Anonymous,right-libertarians.png,qR/GmFiXOqOGEk3/ErS81g==,US,,1490546617 118400628,118412274,2017-03-26 16:45:29,Private property is a statist institution. You cannot be a libertarian and support private property.,,Anonymous,origin-of-american-libertarianism.jpg,grQBW5gUtNrNs0tF/IiyUw==,US,,1490546729 118400628,118412509,2017-03-26 16:47:02,">>118412274 >states exist by taxing and expropriating private property >private property os a statist institution wew lad",,Anonymous,when the private police asks you where you were the night the town communist was found dead floating on the ocean.jpg,3aAie9mBpk9j94NUQkRqEg==,PT,,1490546822 118400628,118412671,2017-03-26 16:48:03,"Capitalism is a fundamentally collectivist system. Only a system where individuals are not made to be cogs in a machine, where groups function only to secure individual liberty, is a legitimate system.",,Anonymous,corporate-stalinism.jpg,t4SZQRk8ztwoIgKaTMnLFg==,US,,1490546883 118400628,118412826,2017-03-26 16:49:11,">>118412671 I hope you're not Finnish.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490546951 118400628,118412847,2017-03-26 16:49:19,">>118412509 States exist by supporting absentee ownership over land. This enables things like rent seeking. All property in a stateless society becomes personal property (de facto), where the law is ""you use it or you lose it.""",,Anonymous,private-property.png,bOvVZE3n7UwFT2iX6Ge6fA==,US,,1490546959 118400628,118412876,2017-03-26 16:49:33,Libertarians are fat nerdy bearded fags that get naked on live TV,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490546973 118400628,118412907,2017-03-26 16:49:42,">>118411979 >couple hundred years It went from heavily restricted voting to universal suffrage in less than 150 years. And how exactly do you revert course? Convince the mob they should stop stealing when they receive absolutely no retaliation when they do?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490546982 118400628,118413048,2017-03-26 16:50:45,">>118411979 See the rub lies in the end game. In the end of any minarchy it will be a totalitarian state and all the massive hordes of capital that market enterprise created will be at the whim of an autocrat to misallocate, launch, spy with, leave in the field to rot.",,Anonymous,tmp_20261-7oDQGF6_d-1989592458.jpg,2TXXNuXu7RmAhFCpQLbn+A==,US,,1490547045 118400628,118413200,2017-03-26 16:51:42,">>118412509 The state only exists to allow one to claim ownership over more land than he is personally using. This is absentee ownership and is the basis for private property.",,Anonymous,jefferson-property.jpg,JDH7VL8paUMbis/7XO35Og==,US,,1490547102 118400628,118413253,2017-03-26 16:52:03,">>118412876 You mean atheitsts",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490547123 118400628,118413382,2017-03-26 16:52:53,">>118412274 Who owns you? That is to say who holds controll over you, your body.",,Anonymous,tmp_20261-1490490202380-940179215.jpg,OYtEJCts4ee3Hen3CJDGpQ==,US,,1490547173 118400628,118413411,2017-03-26 16:52:59,>>118412876,,Anonymous,1486107510992.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1490547179 118400628,118413427,2017-03-26 16:53:06,">it's another ""lolberdarians LARP as fascists and then say they aren't fascists because they're special snowflake leftists who are afraid of being fascists"" episode",,Anonymous,1472043597050.jpg,NtN/WmQTwaOAKT1zNQMgGg==,US,,1490547186 118400628,118413706,2017-03-26 16:55:02,">>118413427 It's true we larp. Nice image btw.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1490547302 118400628,118413788,2017-03-26 16:55:35,">>118413382 I own myself, by definition. This is personal property. If I am a slave, I may be the private property of another, but this does not change the fact that I exert total personal control over my body.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490547335 118400628,118413799,2017-03-26 16:55:40,">>118413427 >justifying being an asshole by pretending everyone around you is an asshole",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490547340 118400628,118413823,2017-03-26 16:55:52,">>118413706 Just be fascist and shut up already. Enough with the ridiculous mental gymnastics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490547352 118400628,118413894,2017-03-26 16:56:23,">>118400628 DEATH TO THE FREEDOM KEKUS DEATH THE THE LIBERTARIAN RIGHT ALL OF YOU NECK YOURSELVES",,Anonymous,resigns.jpg,ZlFiyIbPVm08kgKnutGvAQ==,US,,1490547383 118400628,118413997,2017-03-26 16:57:04,"check out the new Hoppewave videos if you haven't already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs",,Anonymous,pMoScCQ.png,S80ERntPUuAi59+rsJ5h6Q==,PT,,1490547424 118400628,118414201,2017-03-26 16:58:19,">>118413823 But I don't want centralized control of human autonomy. I highly value the individual. Sorry I'm not a fashy goy.",,Anonymous,McGas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1490547499 118400628,118414314,2017-03-26 16:59:05,">>118413788 How do you own yourself if you are forbidden to own what keeps you alive? (Capital goods)",,Anonymous,tmp_20261-8vb2145621590.jpg,6Z9NLGsx0K+Qy5eEX9dfBA==,US,,1490547545 118400628,118414374,2017-03-26 16:59:26,">>118413427 No, we hold a lot of the same views re immigrants, degeneracy, commies etc. The difference is we don't trust the state, any state, to deal with it. Nor do we want to relinquish power to the state, or to have it hold a gun to our heads. Hoppe libertarians are basically non-bootlicker right wingers who want to be able to deal with shit ourselves, not pussy up to a dictator",,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1490547566 118400628,118414480,2017-03-26 17:00:09,">>118414314 Why would I be forbidden to own goods? That makes no sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490547609 118400628,118414745,2017-03-26 17:01:52,>>118413823,,Anonymous,1488056840752.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,GB,,1490547712 118400628,118414786,2017-03-26 17:02:06,">>118414201 >I highly value the individual. Words like ""individualism"" and ""democracy"" lead to societal decay and leftism. The leftists you see today are partially a result of your kind of thinking. I am not tolerant in that sense. The only way to keep this sickness from spreading is by authoritarian rule.",,Anonymous,O'Sullivan's Law.png,HV3pRQuvilN9jefFcC6RQA==,US,,1490547726 118400628,118415022,2017-03-26 17:03:36,">>118414374 Yeah just let the Jew handle it goy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490547816 118400628,118415038,2017-03-26 17:03:41,>>118414745,,Anonymous,1409490388783.gif,FccX9aXj+oBn7uR7+d1c9w==,US,,1490547821 118400628,118415141,2017-03-26 17:04:27,">>118414480 Capital goods. (Means of production) whther its a farm field, freight truck, CNC machine... No autocrat cares about anyone owning a waifu body pillow thats why advocates of this created the third and completely arbitrary ""personal property"". As it does not allow for independence and investment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490547867 118400628,118415267,2017-03-26 17:05:20,">>118414374 >Hoppe libertarians are basically non-bootlicker right wingers who want to be able to deal with shit ourselves, not pussy up to a dictator Because that always works well. Societies always have and always will need a true leader. Anyone who denies this is either lying or is immature.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490547920 118400628,118415422,2017-03-26 17:06:32,>>118414786,,Anonymous,1488062480159.jpg,3xrZIHDZJRqX5qPJMCOjPA==,GB,,1490547992 118400628,118415487,2017-03-26 17:06:57,">>118404008 How? It's just social darwinism, the opposite of communism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548017 118400628,118415554,2017-03-26 17:07:21,">>118415267 >Societies always have and always will need a true leader If you can't lead without forcing someone into obeying how competent are you really?",,Anonymous,Kim clapping.gif,Ve8aD7XfjT+Wov+L42pQvg==,SI,,1490548041 118400628,118415573,2017-03-26 17:07:29,">>118414786 Democracy is not individualism. Democracy is majority rule which is collectivism. It completely disregards the individual.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548049 118400628,118415589,2017-03-26 17:07:35,">>118415267 >Being an obedient little bitch is the way to prosperity More like the Road to Serfdom.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490548055 118400628,118415781,2017-03-26 17:08:52,">>118415487 Your philosophy is going nowhere fast.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548132 118400628,118415858,2017-03-26 17:09:24,">>118415267 Libertarians are not opposed to leadership, they are in favor of natural order. Democracy has produced nothing but cucked ""leaders"", it's hard to find anyone who respects his country's ""leaders"" having voted for them or not.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490548164 118400628,118415962,2017-03-26 17:10:06,">>118405362 In a complete ancap world, there would be no borders, as there would be no nations. There wouldnt be a need for immigration controls, because dumb dindus and spics would die out because there would be no government to feed them for free.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548206 118400628,118415990,2017-03-26 17:10:18,>tfw will never be able to read all these books,,Anonymous,129045gt3.jpg,WRUZ2BdKl8DDgjaffzu4ug==,US,,1490548218 118400628,118416024,2017-03-26 17:10:34,">>118414786 True but that's not what we're about. Individualism in libertarian thought is about personal responsibility for the self, not the neoliberalism you see now. As for democracy, see pic related",,Anonymous,1488751476585.jpg,iCwFn2VLpIwPMP4W/nDGrw==,GB,,1490548234 118400628,118416039,2017-03-26 17:10:39,">>118415781 Which is proof that your average retarded voter would prefer to be coddled by the government.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490548239 118400628,118416104,2017-03-26 17:11:04,">>118415422 >it's another ""cult follower doesn't say anything and just posts image macros"" episode >>118415554 >If you can't lead without forcing someone into obeying You'd prefer chaos to order? >>118415573 Of what worth is ""individualism"" in society? It just creates special snowflakes which eventually leads to leftism. >>118415589 People should be obedient. And yes.",,Anonymous,Fascist Youth.jpg,DNugfVS7W4g7VlJ/hGOikQ==,US,,1490548264 118400628,118416217,2017-03-26 17:11:53,">>118415858 >it's hard to find anyone who respects his country's ""leaders"" having voted for them or not. Take a look at our President.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548313 118400628,118416270,2017-03-26 17:12:13,">>118405754 Since having roads and infrastructure makes your business more appealing to customers, business owners would pay private contractors to build roads between them and residential areas.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548333 118400628,118416313,2017-03-26 17:12:34,">>118416104 Nice picture of white people lining up to be mass slaughtered by the millions into some pointless war. You sure convinced me into fascism.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490548354 118400628,118416349,2017-03-26 17:12:49,">>118416039 Yeah well that's democracy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548369 118400628,118416392,2017-03-26 17:13:06,">>118416024 >Individualism in libertarian thought is about personal responsibility for the self Of what use is this without order?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548386 118400628,118416410,2017-03-26 17:13:16,"Its a way of removing responsibility for your actions. By subjugating your identity of self to that of a collective. This will generate a ""in crowd"" verbal filtering method. Thats ""political correctness"" this will require an ""other"" to focus on and say ""thats not me!"" And so become invested in it's survival lest you loose your identity and turn on your in group.",,Anonymous,tmp_20261-1485693023491836801649.jpg,Mvj2/MQWuD6HBvEbWjRl/A==,US,,1490548396 118400628,118416568,2017-03-26 17:14:35,">>118416104 >doesn't say anything and just posts image macros"" episode I replied twice to you by mistake, hit send before I pasted in my text >>118416024",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490548475 118400628,118416591,2017-03-26 17:14:43,">>118416313 >commie Spaniard thinks orderly young men is bad",,Anonymous,Fascist Youth (2).jpg,xN2MTsk0UCqQCaW+eW/tnQ==,US,,1490548483 118400628,118416639,2017-03-26 17:14:59,">>118416104 >You'd prefer chaos to order? No. I'm saying if people have a choice in the matter they'll pick more competent leaders rather than scumbags. And decentralized systems are better than centralized. Go away with your fantasies about being a dictator. You'd just fuck up everything. >>118416349 I'm glad we agree. If only there was a system which promoted independence...",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490548499 118400628,118416801,2017-03-26 17:16:10,">>118416591 t. statist cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548570 118400628,118416865,2017-03-26 17:16:40,">>118415990 Why not Anon? I read one book a month, so could you! :3",,Anonymous,hoppe speaks to minorities.webm,UdXzJIjN9K0YXstyb1KF3A==,PT,,1490548600 118400628,118417168,2017-03-26 17:18:37,">>118416591 >nigger American thinks that genociding white people is great.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490548717 118400628,118417200,2017-03-26 17:18:51,">>118416104 Individuals are everything. There is no perfect state (or whatever you prefer) without individuals. Only individuals act. States cannot act. Collectives cannot act. Only individuals act.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548731 118400628,118417351,2017-03-26 17:19:53,">>118415141 Those who work at the factory and actually tend to the machines will own the factory. Those who work on a farm will own the farm. What's wrong with this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548793 118400628,118417371,2017-03-26 17:20:04,">>118416865 Damn man I want to read all this but I feel like I need to read more precursors to get to hoppe. What's your suggested order",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548804 118400628,118417399,2017-03-26 17:20:20,">>118416392 Order is there but not at the state level (although governance structures can exist). ""in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They–the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centred lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism–will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order."" Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490548820 118400628,118417514,2017-03-26 17:21:12,">>118416639 >I'm saying if people have a choice in the matter they'll pick more competent leaders rather than scumbags Depends on the people. >Go away with your fantasies about being a dictator. You'd just fuck up everything. I have no dreams of being a dictator. I am not fit for that role. Have fun with your dreams of ""if everyone was just pseudo anarchist like me, they'd instantly be a genius"". Reminds me of atheists. >>118416801 I'm perfectly fine with being a statist provided said state is durable and right wing. I'm also open to monarchy. >>118417168 You shame your country.",,Anonymous,Franco.jpg,M0BscDx8EAmWIJZhcee8lg==,US,,1490548872 118400628,118417543,2017-03-26 17:21:25,">>118413997 >>118413997 >>118413997 If you are on a desktop can you shrink this image by 75% and repost. My shitty old phone wont let me use it as a background/zoom out to enclude full thing. Have many (you)s as thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548885 118400628,118417582,2017-03-26 17:21:38,">>118417351 what's the incentive to create new factories if they end up being owned by a collective, you dumb nigger?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490548898 118400628,118417825,2017-03-26 17:23:33,">>118417371 Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt For a New Liberty: A Libertarian Manifesto by Murray Rothbard and then start with Hoppe, pic related. You'll also get tons of interesting books and authors to read from the footnotes alone.",,Anonymous,hoppe reading order.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,PT,,1490549013 118400628,118417840,2017-03-26 17:23:40,">>118417371 Read Anatomy of the State, just as the other anon did. (>>118406327) I recommended it to him yesterday or so and he has already finished it because it's such a short yet earth shattering read. https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf Seriously, anon, just right into it.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490549020 118400628,118417865,2017-03-26 17:23:54,">>118417582 The people who create the factory own the factory. The incentive is obvious.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549034 118400628,118417940,2017-03-26 17:24:32,">>118417200 Individuals by themselves are aimless without leadership and without order. Anyone who disagrees with that has the mental capacity of a 15yo anarcho communist. >>118417399 >""in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They–the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centred lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism–will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order."" Hoppe This is fascism with the end result being pseudo anarchy. Like I said. Mental gymnastics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549072 118400628,118417984,2017-03-26 17:24:49,">>118417865 >working in a factory and creating one are the same thing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549089 118400628,118418146,2017-03-26 17:26:02,">>118417514 You can be a boot licker under ancap too I suppose. Just find some guys in a local club wearing leather uniforms. >they'd instantly be a genius You don't have to be a genius to pick out the most beneficial offer. It's just that under democracy people pick whoever is gonna rob the most and under autocracy you're stuck with whatever cunt is in charge. I'd prefer to be responsible for my own life.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490549162 118400628,118418175,2017-03-26 17:26:14,">>118400628 >and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. Aye aye, and how about the fascists too? Fascism is just as much of a threat to individual liberty as is communism, if they gain sufficient power. You know goddamn well that some of these scum on /pol/ would do the same things SJWs do if given the same cultural legitimacy and power. FASCISTS, COMMUNISTS, AND ISLAMISTS ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH WESTERN CIVILIZATION.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549174 118400628,118418231,2017-03-26 17:26:39,">>118417514 You shame the founding fathers. Individuals are not assets of nation states.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490549199 118400628,118418248,2017-03-26 17:26:47,">>118417371 Tbqh you can just dive into Hoppes Democracy, the God that failed Rockwells Against the State is a also good start.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490549207 118400628,118418268,2017-03-26 17:26:53,">>118417351 That has been tried in my country you know? What happened is that half of them slacked, the other half grew tired of it and also slacked, and what were once productive lands became wastelands. Also give your house to the workers they are the true owners, and the rest of your stuff.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490549213 118400628,118418304,2017-03-26 17:27:09,>>118417543,,Anonymous,pMoScCQ_00000.png,FgIhAa9vRfBd/vS7d021yg==,PT,,1490549229 118400628,118418475,2017-03-26 17:28:28,">>118417984 Scenarios: 1) a group of individuals get together to form a syndicate that will produce goods to meet a demand. 2) an individual forms a syndicate making goods. He gets to own everything that he's responsible for making, but he is not entitled to the product of someone else's labor. If he does hire someone else, their contributions earn them proportional decision-making ownership.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549308 118400628,118418513,2017-03-26 17:28:42,">>118416865 This webm is just liberalism. >>118418146 Your ideology is for leftists and retards. >>118418231 Times have changed from the era of the founding fathers. Our democracy (and demographics) is broken.",,Anonymous,1490102156740.jpg,nADLiyBEzv6QNHi+3d8Wqg==,US,,1490549322 118400628,118418534,2017-03-26 17:28:56,">>118418175 They all have to be redeemed by getting converted to biofuel.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490549336 118400628,118418593,2017-03-26 17:29:18,">>118418175 >Fascism is just as much of a threat to individual liberty as is communism ""Individual liberty"" = they might take my bong away.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549358 118400628,118418605,2017-03-26 17:29:23,">>118413997 Thanks portubro",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490549363 118400628,118418611,2017-03-26 17:29:26,">>118417371 Anatomy of the State first, then The Law. You need to understand the moral argument for libertarianism first and foremost. If you need a quick rundown of economic theory, then Economics In One Lesson is excellent, follow that up with Free To Choose and/or Basic Economics (Thomas Sowell). Then you can literally start reading any book on that list in whatever order interests you. Democracy - The God That Failed is a great place to start into political theory, but literally the sky is the limit because you already understand the basics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549366 118400628,118418675,2017-03-26 17:29:55,">>118418175 You don't understand, we need the fascists and communists to kill eachother",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490549395 118400628,118418709,2017-03-26 17:30:16,">>118418513 He's talking about how people should stop victimizing themselves and do something for their lives.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490549416 118400628,118418774,2017-03-26 17:30:43,">>118418146 >I'd prefer to be responsible for my own life. Society/country/nation state be damned.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549443 118400628,118418776,2017-03-26 17:30:44,">>118418268 >Also give your house to the workers they are the true owners, and the rest of your stuff. My house is my personal property because I am occupying it and working on it. Why would I give it to other workers when I wouldn't give it to a landlord in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549444 118400628,118418780,2017-03-26 17:30:45,">>118418513 >Your ideology is for leftists and retards. Democracy is for leftists. Autocracy is for retards like you who admit you can't trusted with control over your life.",,Anonymous,Manul lol.jpg,Yo4LFqIb0pVUCNgRN4yNJQ==,SI,,1490549445 118400628,118418872,2017-03-26 17:31:27,">>118418175 So to speak...",,Anonymous,CcL_TWeVAAA7bb5.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,GB,,1490549487 118400628,118418929,2017-03-26 17:31:53,">>118418709 >""do whatever u want lol idgaf just leave my bong alone"" >He's talking about how people should stop victimizing themselves and do something for their lives. Mkay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549513 118400628,118419024,2017-03-26 17:32:38,">>118417940 I disagree. do you not have goals? I have goals. I'm not aimless. You have brought nothing as evidence for that claim.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549558 118400628,118419038,2017-03-26 17:32:44,">>118418593 Nope, it's much bigger than that. These people all want you sublimated into the masses. They want you to be a slave to them and their order, rather than allow you to be an individual man working for your own good and your own family's good. I don't do drugs and I don't approve of them, so your statement is irrelevant. I just don't want the sweat of my brow going to support anyone but me or my family, I don't care if they're white or not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549564 118400628,118419073,2017-03-26 17:33:05,">>118418774 >implying politicians give a shit about you or your country",,Anonymous,1488295104017.gif,fejSi7/z1r+SkvpiqBFuHw==,SI,,1490549585 118400628,118419110,2017-03-26 17:33:20,">>118418776 You are only occupying the volume of your body. Your house has space for at least 20 workers. There is free space in your house that you are not using, and stuff that you haven't touched for years.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490549600 118400628,118419172,2017-03-26 17:33:42,">>118418780 >Autocracy is for retards like you who admit you can't trusted with control over your life. I am not talking about my life. I'm talking about the entire country/nation. Which you don't seem to care about. Your insipid ideology might as well be leftist anarchism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549622 118400628,118419178,2017-03-26 17:33:44,">>118417371 Spainanon referred to me. Anatomy of the State is a 62-page doc with really big letters. You can literally read it in 2-3 hours if you're a slow reader. I found Rothbard's essay is really insightful .. and shocking at times. Definitely skim through it. I'll start Hoppe's ""Democracy - The God that Failed"" tomorrow. And if we can get those /lrg/ threads rolling erry day, then we have plenty of room for discussion as well And even if you don't plan on educating on the matters of AnCap for the sake of advocating for it but for the sake education, then it's still pretty much worth it",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490549624 118400628,118419214,2017-03-26 17:33:58,">>118417825 >>118417840 >>118418248 >>118418611 Thanks in still reading man economy and state but I will take to your suggestions when I'm done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549638 118400628,118419328,2017-03-26 17:34:49,">>118419110 >Your house has space for at least 20 workers. There is free space in your house that you are not using, and stuff that you haven't touched for years. But there is already enough unused land for everyone else, so we'll fill that up first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549689 118400628,118419335,2017-03-26 17:34:53,">>118418774 Society is not defined by the state. In fact, it persists existence in spite of the state, not because of it. You don't lose all your sense of morality or affinity for your fellow man the moment a small group of people on a hill stop barking orders at you and threatening you with violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549693 118400628,118419354,2017-03-26 17:35:01,">>118419172 >might as well be leftist anarchism >hurr durr capitalism is just the same as communism Can you stop shitting up the thread?",,Anonymous,1447449709724.jpg,Or4L/o90RppehUx4iGEqCg==,SI,,1490549701 118400628,118419372,2017-03-26 17:35:07,">>118419073 My current President does. Yes. Or do you believe not a single person on earth is capable of being a good leader?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549707 118400628,118419566,2017-03-26 17:36:19,">>118419038 >They want you to be a slave to them and their order, rather than allow you to be an individual man working for your own good and your own family's good. And what about the nation's good?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549779 118400628,118419684,2017-03-26 17:37:07,">>118418774 Or you can serve the jews/commies as much as you want.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490549827 118400628,118419824,2017-03-26 17:38:03,">>118419178 >tfw you can't listen hoppe's speeches in german Lucky you.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490549883 118400628,118419947,2017-03-26 17:38:57,">>118418774 Okay, we get it, you want to die for Israel so bad. We don't care. Stop being such a faggot about it.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490549937 118400628,118420019,2017-03-26 17:39:21,">>118419372 >My current President does. The guy has an ego the size of a planet. He cares more about how he looks than he does about you. And even if he does ok, what about all the rest of the cunts? Do they just get a pass because you've found one decent former reality show host to lead the country? Do you just go off 1 in 1000 chances to get a decent person in charge?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490549961 118400628,118420080,2017-03-26 17:39:49,">>118419214 If you really insist on getting through Man, Economy and State first, then you won't need the economic books. I really don't suggest doing that, it would be much better to start with the readings that were suggested, but if you're committed, then I only really suggest Anatomy of the State and the Law prior to reading Hoppe. Just because they're short and just address a metric fuck-ton of arguments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490549989 118400628,118420144,2017-03-26 17:40:17,">>118419566 The nation is best served if its members are free to chose their fate on their own. It weeds out the defects.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490550017 118400628,118420250,2017-03-26 17:40:57,">>118419372 OK. But look at what he's faced with, his own govt giving him shit. 'Drain the swamp', 'audit the fed', 'strict reading of the constitution' etc. All aimed at getting back to the smaller, constitutionalist govt your founders intended - which was pretty libertarian. And be honest, for every good man like trump, there's a potential hillary or Merkel. Or perhaps Mao, or pol pot...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490550057 118400628,118420262,2017-03-26 17:41:03,">>118419566 >nation's good There is no such thing. The nation is a collection of individuals. The good of 'the nation' is merely an aggregate of the good of the individuals who make it up. It doesn't help the nation to rob Peter to pay Paul. All you're doing here is transferring pain from one group to another. Charity is sufficient. We do not need a state to help the poor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550063 118400628,118420361,2017-03-26 17:41:44,">>118400628 Are 1776ers allowed in this thread?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550104 118400628,118420487,2017-03-26 17:42:33,">>118418929 read the whole lecture idiot >Hans-Hermann Hoppe on Right Libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490550153 118400628,118420567,2017-03-26 17:43:13,">>118420361 If you believe in individual liberty and free markets, then feel free. I suggest you read some Rothbard, though, you might change your mind on a few things.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550193 118400628,118420569,2017-03-26 17:43:14,">>118419824 Yeah, I have real trouble with his accent and intonation when he's speaking English. I bet his German speeches are so much better",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490550194 118400628,118420605,2017-03-26 17:43:30,">>118419328 You should start by giving the example, and maybe your ancom friends will follow suit. Also, it doesn't work like that, if parts of your house are not your property, to be consistent with that theory you have to give shelter to any nigger that says gibs me dat. You might be lucky if he shits on every square of your floor as he has worked on every single tile of your house and thus it is his property and you don't have to give shelter to another 19.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490550210 118400628,118420626,2017-03-26 17:43:36,">>118419824 Haha yeah. A REAL PRIVILEGE ;> >>118420361 What's that ?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490550216 118400628,118421010,2017-03-26 17:46:15,">>118420361 Fuck mate, what would we do without our snek flags and memes.",,Anonymous,1469352796720.jpg,AvAcwiBlgVpIuNgBz+qeIg==,GB,,1490550375 118400628,118421077,2017-03-26 17:46:43,">>118420626 But you can't listen to Huerta de Soto though. ;^)",,Anonymous,serveimage.jpg,8KKuzL9K012BShOvSnorEw==,ES,,1490550403 118400628,118421083,2017-03-26 17:46:47,">>118420569 Is the German accent really that hard to understand for native speakers ? I mean apart from the fact that it's quite annoying",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490550407 118400628,118421131,2017-03-26 17:47:04,">>118420080 Yeah I've gotta finish it now. I'm too deep into it now I guess I'll read the anatomy and law next. Thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550424 118400628,118421144,2017-03-26 17:47:08,">>118419335 >You don't lose all your sense of morality or affinity for your fellow man the moment a small group of people on a hill stop barking orders at you and threatening you with violence. What in the world makes you think the order would not include comradeship? >>118419354 >>hurr durr capitalism is just the same as communism No. I said YOUR ridiculous pseudo anarchist nonsense might as well be left wing anarchism. You really don't give a shit if society degrades into decadence so long as ""lol they don't bother ME"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550428 118400628,118421193,2017-03-26 17:47:29,">>118420626 ""What's that?"" America in the 1700-early 1800s. Free trade, individual liberty, minimal government interference on issues. Yes I believe a state is necessary but leave it small so it is made to protect individual rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550449 118400628,118421209,2017-03-26 17:47:36,">>118420605 >You should start by giving the example, and maybe your ancom friends will follow suit. Also, it doesn't work like that, if parts of your house are not your property, to be consistent with that theory you have to give shelter to any nigger that says gibs me dat. My entire house is my property, regardless of whether the bank or the landlord says ""gibs me dat."" We are not entitled to the things that others have worked for. This principle is the same for everyone, including the capitalists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550456 118400628,118421364,2017-03-26 17:48:47,">>118408838 >>118409039 >>118409193 >>118409579 >>118409792 >>118410271 >>118410589 >>118411245 BBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550527 118400628,118421369,2017-03-26 17:48:50,">>118421193 Thanks for clarification breh",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490550530 118400628,118421415,2017-03-26 17:49:07,">>118421083 I think it's cute desu desu I want Hoppe to tell me a bedtime story about the de-civilizing effects of democracy",,Anonymous,P5260036-L.jpg,PDkoX4WoFLVVxTRBG3DdLQ==,PT,,1490550547 118400628,118421463,2017-03-26 17:49:27,">>118419684 >the only options are anarchy and kikery/communism I can see I am dealing with an honest person. >>118419947 Like I said. You shame your country being such a filthy little liar. I am not surprised. Pseudo leftists being snake tongued liars. >>118420019 >The guy has an ego the size of a planet. He cares more about how he looks than he does about you I laughed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550567 118400628,118421635,2017-03-26 17:50:28,">>118421209 When you have to hire people to work in your house, repairing stuff, for example, does that repaired good becomes the worker's property? If not, you are the capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490550628 118400628,118421638,2017-03-26 17:50:30,">>118421193 1776ers are very welcome. I'm ancap but I can't help it. I LOVE THE USA. 1776 will commence!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550630 118400628,118421639,2017-03-26 17:50:31,">>118421083 No generally, but for Hoppe I find it hard to follow sometimes, he does seem to have a very strong accent. Just wish I could understand his German material....",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490550631 118400628,118421655,2017-03-26 17:50:33,">>118420361 >1776ers Sure. >>118421144 >You really don't give a shit if society degrades Nice strawman. If people are encouraged to be independent instead of living off the government how's that society gonna go to shit. It's the other way around right now.",,Anonymous,1470906251706.jpg,mSmtT+8TKBDXbhspAlYT4w==,SI,,1490550633 118400628,118421674,2017-03-26 17:50:43,">>118420144 >the nation is best when it turns into Sodom and Gomorrah",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550643 118400628,118421685,2017-03-26 17:50:48,">>118421144 >You really don't give a shit if society degrades into decadence As long as the individual man or woman is unconstrained to follow their own path, then it will not be decadent. Precisely the mark of a decadent society is when a large mass of unproductive people demand that the few productive people be enslaved to serve them, as is the inevitable end of all forms of statism. The state should exist only for common defense, and even then perhaps on a voluntary basis -- i.e. no taxation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550648 118400628,118421735,2017-03-26 17:51:08,">>118421144 >What in the world makes you think the order would not include comradeship? I'm telling you that society and especially comradery does not derive from state control. You can have comradery under state control, but it exists in spite of the state, not because of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550668 118400628,118421772,2017-03-26 17:51:20,The first step to removing communist fags from our board is the permanents banning of government employees from our page. Their existence is a violation of the NAP.,,Anonymous,1489374870672.jpg,JLyv7QNmOgWrG5i9slZlTw==,US,,1490550680 118400628,118421894,2017-03-26 17:52:14,">>118421674 You sound like an Islamist. God's Kingdom is not of this world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550734 118400628,118421910,2017-03-26 17:52:21,">>118405963 Does this constitute violating the NAP? I feel assaulted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550741 118400628,118422055,2017-03-26 17:53:23,">>118405963 Eh, I've probably done worse.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550803 118400628,118422099,2017-03-26 17:53:39,">>118421639 Ah I see >>118421735 Exactly >>118421674 This is bullshit and you know that damn well",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490550819 118400628,118422127,2017-03-26 17:53:51,">>118421635 No because I pay them money (that I earned through work) for the service.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490550831 118400628,118422191,2017-03-26 17:54:16,">>118421655 >If people are encouraged to be independent instead of living off the government how's that society gonna go to shit >>118421685 >As long as the individual man or woman is unconstrained to follow their own path, then it will not be decadent. I am dealing with ""people"" as delusional and retarded as the leftist ""revolutionaries"".",,Anonymous,1482803693600.gif,dFuF0vLZkKZfS6QHxmdciQ==,US,,1490550856 118400628,118422422,2017-03-26 17:56:04,">>118422127 >The difference between me and the capitalists is that I pay my workers KEK.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490550964 118400628,118422536,2017-03-26 17:57:00,">>118421463 Look, i know you are trying to hand out red smarties and you mean well. But consider the following: you're dealing with people here whose families and 'nations' are being ruined by constant state intervention, both socially snd economically. You live in a country that allows many freedoms they don't have, such as free speech and guns. You may find it hard to deal with the idea that the freedoms you enjoy are precious and you are ready to trade them for stagnation, retardation and the resulting societal collapse we're experiencing here for the last 150 years. You can have that if you want, but don't pester the rest of us into joining your hellhole.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490551020 118400628,118422538,2017-03-26 17:57:00,">>118422191 >hurr u r dum Last response you get from me.",,Anonymous,Moly not an argument.jpg,g4+vjwpk0JfB0g4vG5A7Cg==,SI,,1490551020 118400628,118422565,2017-03-26 17:57:10,">>118421193 Minarchism is considered within what's considered libertarianism, though technically it should be called classical liberalism. I don't see how would that be achieved in the current political climate though. The republican support for minarchism is almost nonexistent and the libertarian party is a joke. Do you believe in participation through normal political channels? Secession maybe? Ancapism, from my point of view, is supposed to happen via more and more people doing counter-economic activity that evades state regulatory monopolies and taxation and via radical decentralization. The state loses its power when people withdraw their support from it. >>118421772 (((USER WAS VAN'D FOR THIS POST)))",,Anonymous,serveimage (1).jpg,5kwaS3n7P1I6BfjlC7rPUg==,ES,,1490551030 118400628,118422635,2017-03-26 17:57:45,">>118421735 >society and especially comradery does not derive from state control I never claimed they were. I said you seem to think an orderly regime would not include comradeship. >>118421894 I am a Christian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551065 118400628,118422698,2017-03-26 17:58:09,">>118422565 >(((USER WAS VAN'D FOR THIS POST))) Oh shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551089 118400628,118422771,2017-03-26 17:58:42,">>118421193 Definetely. Compared to nazi LARPers and totally not socialist NatSocs we easily can be allies, sinc at the end of the day we both want freedom and are against collectivism. Also I can appreciate early American aesthetics, they were pretty comfy and the USA in general still are something special.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490551122 118400628,118422868,2017-03-26 17:59:26,">>118422191 You do not have the right to use the state to enforce your own particular version of morality. The law is not morality -- these two things are separate. The law exists to promote order within society. Morality exists to promote order in the individual, and as such is the free choice of the individual. There is some overlap, but they are not the same. Again, you are sounding like an Islamist. Western civilization has always held that people ought to be free to pursue their own triumphs and their own mistakes, including in the moral sphere. The state has never existed to enforce moral law, this is a Jewish and Islamic idea. Western civilization, being a mingling of Roman/Christian ideas, is naturally incompatible with your line of thinking. PHYSICAL REMOVAL OF COMMUNISTS, FASCISTS, AND ISLAMISTS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551166 118400628,118422884,2017-03-26 17:59:35,">>118422536 >But consider the following: you're dealing with people here whose families and 'nations' are being ruined by constant state intervention Consider the following: the current ""state"" in question is marxist/globalist. The solution to that problem is not fucking anarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551175 118400628,118422887,2017-03-26 17:59:36,">>118422422 A capitalist by definition must pay less than the exchange value of a product that a worker makes, for every product he makes.Otherwise he does not make any profit. This is because the worker does not directly sell his product. He gives it to the capitalist and the capitalist gives him back a fraction of the market value. I, on the other hand, must be paying the workers EXACTLY the market value, by definition, because we are exchanging directly with each other.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551176 118400628,118423026,2017-03-26 18:00:45,">>118400628 Based AnCap SpanBro, could u give me a quick rundown on ""Democracy - The God that has failed"", and whether or not it is a good starting point for my journey.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490551245 118400628,118423174,2017-03-26 18:01:37,"[pic of fat man with bag of money] CAPITALISTS BTFO",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551297 118400628,118423192,2017-03-26 18:01:46,">>118422868 >You do not have the right to use the state to enforce your own particular version of morality. Then enjoy your decline into decadence. >Again, you are sounding like an Islamist. Western civilization has always held that people ought to be free to pursue their own triumphs and their own mistakes, including in the moral sphere And look where we are now.",,Anonymous,Cultural Marxism.png,FJKL+WouehFsF6/ghUS1IQ==,US,,1490551306 118400628,118423331,2017-03-26 18:02:40,">>118423026 Democracy at any level is bad for capitalism t.ancap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551360 118400628,118423357,2017-03-26 18:02:52,">>118422565 >Ancapism, from my point of view, is supposed to happen via more and more people doing counter-economic activity that evades state regulatory monopolies and taxation and via radical decentralization. That's called agorism, right? Rothbard himself criticized that approach as having limited effect and probable to end up with you in jail. I believe Rothbard preferred to use right wing populism as a spearhead to libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490551372 118400628,118423364,2017-03-26 18:02:56,">>118422565 Minarchy is like virginity mate, once it's gone, short of a miracle you aren't getting it back. States will always seek to increase their own power. I wonder what the likes of Jefferson would say about today's bloated US federal system",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490551376 118400628,118423436,2017-03-26 18:03:26,">>118422698 [ T h i s p o s t e r w a s p h y s I c a l l y r e m o v e d f o r t h i s p o s t ]",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551406 118400628,118423440,2017-03-26 18:03:27,"I did a school project on Ancaps, AMA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551407 118400628,118423647,2017-03-26 18:04:57,">>118423440 What's your review? do you hate us us?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551497 118400628,118423657,2017-03-26 18:05:01,">>118423440 Did your peers ask about roads?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490551501 118400628,118423668,2017-03-26 18:05:07,">>118423026 Yes, it is. Read the wikipedia article on it for the basic gestalt. t. Portubro",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490551507 118400628,118423673,2017-03-26 18:05:08,">>118422887 > This is because the worker does not directly sell his product. Yes he does, his product is his labor. The labor is set by the market, EXACTLY like you when you hire a Plumber.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490551508 118400628,118423675,2017-03-26 18:05:08,">>118423436 Fuck off communist. I'll give you a free ride on my recreational nukes as it drops from my helicopter on a village of pinko commie faggots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551508 118400628,118423691,2017-03-26 18:05:13,">>118423192 Without the help of the state, these people would surely not last long. Jewish mass misinformation, for example, thrives on state coercion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551513 118400628,118423694,2017-03-26 18:05:14,">>118423440 We're you hiding your power level? How did people respond (especially full-blown normies)?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490551514 118400628,118423812,2017-03-26 18:05:57,">>118400628 Bumping.",,Anonymous,IMG_0694.jpg,JyPW0Jo32hbIAUhzhrFWKQ==,US,,1490551557 118400628,118423880,2017-03-26 18:06:22,">>118423668 >t. Portubro the one that regularly starts these threads? If so, you're legitimately the only poster on /pol/ I recognize.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490551582 118400628,118423911,2017-03-26 18:06:36,">>118423364 Jefferson today would be reading Rothbard and writing on anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490551596 118400628,118423923,2017-03-26 18:06:45,">>118422771 >1776 He neglected to mention the American war of independence when they kicked us out, and the origin of the Gadsden snek flag... All water under the bridge now, though.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490551605 118400628,118423979,2017-03-26 18:07:04,">>118423675 Chill man it's just a plant. I make the lrg threads. I ain't no commie",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551624 118400628,118424037,2017-03-26 18:07:26,">>118423880 Yeah, I guess I make most of these threads. Also guys, I already have the paste for the next thread when this one runs out. I'll post it here shortly.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490551646 118400628,118424102,2017-03-26 18:07:45,,,Anonymous,1486846117006.jpg,YpbrfWz7cgcIUJS7Tdbuvg==,CA,,1490551665 118400628,118424144,2017-03-26 18:08:01,"These threads are best threads, I've probably learned more than my 8 years of high school and college. >tfw philosophy class focused on Marx and Rousseau and nothing else",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551681 118400628,118424168,2017-03-26 18:08:09,">>118423647 >do you hate us us? I do now. >>118423691 >Without the help of the state, these people would surely not last long. Sure they would. Because you're a relativist who doesn't give a fuck about standards or objective morality. You are no different from the leftists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551689 118400628,118424269,2017-03-26 18:08:48,">>118423979 Okay. That's good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551728 118400628,118424302,2017-03-26 18:08:58,">>118424102 Replace caption with * autistic screeching.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551738 118400628,118424305,2017-03-26 18:08:59,">>118404598 (((Nose)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551739 118400628,118424350,2017-03-26 18:09:14,">>118422884 > marxist /globalist Well any kind of socialism is marxist, because it divides people into abstract categories and ranks them according to some random metric. It doesn't matter if its by income, race, nose lenght or gender - the outcome is always the same. While you may claim that such distinctionsmake sense, and you even might be right, the result of such thinking are either wasteful social programs or genocide. Most well adjusted people don't want either. That said, I do not believe you'll find one full on anarchist in this thread. Most people want government, but limited in its abilities, resources and restricted to a few areas such as defence, enforcement of laws etc.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490551754 118400628,118424366,2017-03-26 18:09:23,">>118422887 >Labor Theory of Value And this is why Marxism and any other turd ideologies stemming from it aren't taken seriously anymore. You are stuck in 19th century economics and accumulate such a long history of failure you can't go back. >>118423026 The thing with libertarianism is that it really is just a small set of core values and all the literature is books upon books explaining the limitless implications of these values on every area of life. As soon as you have read the basics you can draw the conclusions by yourself. Often by reading one or two of the ""big books"" you'll probably know or be able to deduce what the others are about. This is why you may have thought that I probably had read it based on my posts. Haven't read it yet, though I have a general understanding of it's arguments and by listening Hoppe's arguments I can tell you it's worth it, but maybe as an introduction you would like to read Anatomy of the State, which is short to read but eye opening, and who (>>118419178) read and very likely recommends too. Then Democracy by Hoppe can be read with a little more of framework for understanding. Cheers.",,Anonymous,snekgirl2.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,ES,,1490551763 118400628,118424371,2017-03-26 18:09:26,">>118424144 >Marx and Rousseau I'm feeling you so damn hard man",,Anonymous,TnQwDJr.jpg,53SeTBEcE0o440gWpqrT7w==,DE,,1490551766 118400628,118424510,2017-03-26 18:10:24,>>118424102,,Anonymous,tumblr_lvx47jphZC1r2s92r (1).jpg,Dsp9pEkE+vM6hSfhZ/wsRQ==,GB,,1490551824 118400628,118424582,2017-03-26 18:10:49,">>118424168 >Because you're a relativist I'm actually not. I believe in the absolute moral law of Jesus Christ. Part of that law is allowing people to make their own mistakes, for which they are individually responsible for repenting of. Your idea, regardless of your own personal religion, is Islamic/Jewish in origin. Ironic, huh?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551849 118400628,118424734,2017-03-26 18:11:40,,,Anonymous,10235886.png,mLfQNRljK6sT++d9BhGRag==,CA,,1490551900 118400628,118424791,2017-03-26 18:12:05,">>118424144 >>118424371 At least you're familiar with the underlying philosophical background of the opposite.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551925 118400628,118424884,2017-03-26 18:12:40,">>118423673 >Yes he does, his product is his labor. His product is the product of his labor. He sells his labor, yes, but this is not the product. The product of his labor is sold by the capitalist to a consumer. >The labor is set by the market It's not set by the market for a variety of reasons. One, the state interferes in the market to suppress workers' organizations. Two, the individual cannot bargain with collectivist institutions like corporations in a market fashion because there is information asymmetry and unequal bargaining. This means that the exchange cannot be a market exchange because it cannot be voluntary. As a corollary it is therefore inefficient. >EXACTLY like you when you hire a Plumber. If the plumber directly sells me whatever he makes, then this is consistent with what I've said. There are no capitalists in that scenario, just two individuals exchanging things voluntarily.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551960 118400628,118424893,2017-03-26 18:12:43,">>118424144 I read Leviathan in a college philosophy class and my reaction through the whole thing was ""this is bullshit projection"". That was even before I started reading up on libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551963 118400628,118424930,2017-03-26 18:12:58,">>118424734 ok I genuinely laughed at this",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1490551978 118400628,118425055,2017-03-26 18:13:43,">>118423694 >>118423657 >>118423647 We had to do a dumbass brochure on a dumbass utopia because we just read 1984 so I kinda....",,Anonymous,20170326_180700.jpg,Ifq9Nw+J33CjElSULocxUg==,US,,1490552023 118400628,118425083,2017-03-26 18:13:56,">>118424350 >Most well adjusted people don't want either. There are people all throughout this thread who want to physically remove communists. And rightfully so. So don't give this phony bullshit. >>118424582 >I'm actually not. I believe in the absolute moral law of Jesus Christ. You disgust me with your lies. >Your idea, regardless of your own personal religion, is Islamic/Jewish in origin. Then you've never read the Bible. But then again I don't believe a word you say. I don't doubt you believe in Christ though. For even demons themselves believe in Him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552036 118400628,118425152,2017-03-26 18:14:18,">>118424144 >marx Look at it this way mate, you know the enemy, and will better placed to refute arguments and debate.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490552058 118400628,118425181,2017-03-26 18:14:25,">>118425055 Sorry for shit quality on pics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552065 118400628,118425450,2017-03-26 18:15:57,">>118424366 >You are stuck in 19th century economics I wouldn't even give them that much credit. Adam Smith and David Ricardo were well aware of the fact that a Labor Theory of Value was bullshittery, they just couldn't figure out a way to articulate it until Carl Menger came around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552157 118400628,118425456,2017-03-26 18:15:59,">>118406402 that sure did work out for you, huh",,Anonymous,sobiet yooniun.jpg,We7PzHAz3UnfUC1PMGZdxw==,US,,1490552159 118400628,118425478,2017-03-26 18:16:08,cont on project,,Anonymous,1490566539248-1934404643.jpg,yACdLjDKI47oZxAjYS/Kww==,US,,1490552168 118400628,118425565,2017-03-26 18:16:40,">>118425055 Lol, did they make you take the commie cuck pill? I bet ancap is more evil than Nazis to uni fags",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552200 118400628,118425571,2017-03-26 18:16:43,">>118425055 Noice",,Anonymous,tumblr_inline_mn4t6bAvem1qz4rgp.jpg,TTMDAifJ08G+5R6Y3penCg==,GB,,1490552203 118400628,118425613,2017-03-26 18:16:57,">>118424366 thanks for your extensive response. I think I'll spend a night on amazon and buy some stuff",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490552217 118400628,118425686,2017-03-26 18:17:24,">>118425478 fuck it was upside down",,Anonymous,1490566612189193807448.jpg,O7jwmGOxVBrDIgfzLDJ3lQ==,US,,1490552244 118400628,118425721,2017-03-26 18:17:37,">>118424366 >>Labor Theory of Value Except I literally said nothing about the LTV and it's not necessary for my argument. If you were paying attention, no matter what the market value of the product is (it's whatever you want it to be, X), the capitalist will always pay the worker less than the market value. This is true whether you think labor determines X or not. A worker who assembles a car in a factory will not earn enough to buy the very same car he assembled. He will have to assemble more than one car to buy a single car. This is because if the capitalist paid the workers the market value of the every car they assembled, he wouldn't make a profit when he goes to sell those cars later.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552257 118400628,118425762,2017-03-26 18:17:50,">>118425686 Good job.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552270 118400628,118425773,2017-03-26 18:17:53,bump,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490552273 118400628,118425784,2017-03-26 18:17:57,">>118425478 >>118425686 >posting upside down pictures. What a faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552277 118400628,118425797,2017-03-26 18:18:01,">>118425083 Removing commies isn't the same. It's inresponse to them wanting to take away their freedoms for the lulz. It's the difference between gassing jews and mowing down retreating Germans on the eastern front. Big moral difference.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490552281 118400628,118425806,2017-03-26 18:18:04,">>118423357 Rothbard didn't live to see the advent of information technology, which he could not have imagined, that's probably why he resignated himself to rely on traditional means for political change.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490552284 118400628,118425930,2017-03-26 18:18:57,">>118425813 >>118425813 >>118425813 new thread guys >>118425813 >>118425813 >>118425813 new thread",,Anonymous,physically removed.png,6bYsvH56r0voOY/G7ic/pg==,PT,,1490552337 118400628,118426030,2017-03-26 18:19:36,">>118425565 They didn't understand it, I guess normos are fans of roads",,Anonymous,14905667038251682089741.jpg,9dQi9FsTBtEOBx0mGuFbAQ==,US,,1490552376 118400628,118426033,2017-03-26 18:19:37,">>118425930 >early",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552377 118400628,118426048,2017-03-26 18:19:42,">>118425721 >the capitalist will always pay the worker less than the market value Where do you derive that value from? The worker works for their subjective value of that labor, not what that labor is ultimately worth at the end of the production process.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552382 118400628,118426092,2017-03-26 18:19:58,">>118425797 Genocide is genocide. You can't pick and choose. You are a hypocrite.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552398 118400628,118426098,2017-03-26 18:20:01,">>118409792 >(((Noam Chomsky)))",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490552401 118400628,118426177,2017-03-26 18:20:27,Deffend Black Market vs. Physical Removal,,Anonymous,afgafg23.png,Iz+J1HXa2KUinQGrNBOSSQ==,ES,,1490552427 118400628,118426264,2017-03-26 18:21:08,">>118425055 lmao, kek'd hard",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490552468 118400628,118426302,2017-03-26 18:21:16,">>118426092 > self defense is genocide Well done.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490552476 118400628,118426361,2017-03-26 18:21:42,">>118425083 >Then you've never read the Bible. Which parts? I've read most of the New Testament -- the most important part -- whose theme is through and through about personal redemption of the individual, not 'society' or 'the nation'. Throughout Western history there have been aberrations of Christianity promoting a 'Christian state' to enforce Judeo-Christian morality. But these were only aberrations. The state is not only not intended to enforce God's law, it's actually entirely insufficient for doing so. Man is not capable of being a moral judge over his brothers, because all men are fallen. The best we can aim for is to be a 'social judge', i.e. to promote order within our own relations. But this has nothing to do whatever with preventing trannies from transitioning or banning cannabis usage. God will judge all of us; it's not our place to even try to judge moral crimes. Only social crimes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552502 118400628,118426372,2017-03-26 18:21:46,">>118425686 Don't worry about it the orientation gets fucked for mobile pics, happens all the time",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490552506 118400628,118426389,2017-03-26 18:21:49,">>118425613 It's great to buy books if you really want to have them in physical format so you can have them around but you don't really need to buy them, most of that stuff is to be found for free in the Mises Insitute website. I think many of these books are in the first OP posts.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490552509 118400628,118426451,2017-03-26 18:22:20,">>118424884 > the state interferes in the market to suppress workers' organizations. KEK, if it wasn't the state, unionized workers would just be discriminated against. > wo, the individual cannot bargain with collectivist institutions like corporations in a market fashion because there is information asymmetry and unequal bargaining. That's true for every trasanction, you know nothing about plumbing therefore there is also an asymmetry there. > it cannot be voluntary. It surpasses me how that follows your previous statement. >If the plumber directly sells me whatever he makes, then this is consistent with what I've said. There are no capitalists in that scenario, just two individuals exchanging things voluntarily. First, he is not selling you his repair, not the pipe itself, it's his labor that he is selling(I'm not counting other parts needed for the repair). The capitalist and the worker are individuals too, exchanging voluntarily.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490552540 118400628,118426461,2017-03-26 18:22:23,">>118425797 Physical removal doesn't actually mean genocide. It means literally removing someone from your property and denying them service and access. That said if they're rioting and shit or trying to impose a government, yea it's probably go time.",,Anonymous,1440292423281.jpg,+xHIXuBEs9nJK1YElu2+cw==,SI,,1490552543 118400628,118426541,2017-03-26 18:22:52,">>118426302 >self defense against marxists/globalists is not self defense Okay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552572 118400628,118426670,2017-03-26 18:23:44,">>118426389 I'm a typical GenZ, I can't focus on a computer screen more than 5minutes. I'm seriously fucked up",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490552624 118400628,118426676,2017-03-26 18:23:48,">>118426030 >filthy commies Kek, I bet that went down like a lead ballon",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490552628 118400628,118426682,2017-03-26 18:23:50,">>118426461 But if you remove them from high enough altitude there's no need for genocide!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552630 118400628,118426895,2017-03-26 18:25:11,">>118408608 >“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. >Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.” - Adolf Hitler 1938",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552711 118400628,118427097,2017-03-26 18:26:23,">>118426541 > living in a parallel universe where nazi propaganda is taken at face value And here is where you loose me.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490552783 118400628,118427196,2017-03-26 18:27:02,">>118426361 >That guy over there pissing all over the walls and talking about raping kids is really degrading our society. We should enforce some standards. >NO MAN. GOD WOULDN'T WANT THAT. YOU SHOULD LET HIM DO THAT BECAUSE MUH CHOICES. LET EVIL THRIVE AND DO NOTHING. GOOD GOY. Your hear is wicked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552822 118400628,118427260,2017-03-26 18:27:27,">>118426895 > i make up shit as i go along > i still copy their stuff because gibs are popular",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490552847 118400628,118427386,2017-03-26 18:28:16,">>118412671 Noam Chomsky, the biggest moron around. >Guyz there's bosses n stuff in companies so it's totes like Stalin. Yes he is that retarded.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1490552896 118400628,118427394,2017-03-26 18:28:19,">>118426461 >Physical removal doesn't actually mean genocide. >loading communists into helicopters and tossing them out is not genocide >>118427097 The fuck are you talking about?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552899 118400628,118427471,2017-03-26 18:28:51,">>118427260 >oops I got proven wrong again >I'll just ignore it and make some shit up",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552931 118400628,118427534,2017-03-26 18:29:23,">>118426092 It's not genocide you idiot, it's just discrimination, a right implicit in property rights. An important part of the physical removal passage is ""In a covenant..."".",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490552963 118400628,118427748,2017-03-26 18:30:45,">>118426048 >Where do you derive that value from? This is literally irrelevant to the debate. We could argue about what role labor plays (it plays a nonzero role because if you didn't have to work at all to obtain a product you would just get it yourself, rather than pay for it). Lets suppose the value is entirely based on the marginal utility, U. Incidentally, this is something acknowledged by the Left (use-value is similar to marginal utility). Whatever the value of U on the market, which is totally subjective for the sake of argument, the capitalist will always pay the worker something less than U, in order to make a profit. Now, the capitalist claims that he paid the worker for what he created, but this can't be true, because the wage must be insufficient to buy the product that was made. If the capitalist paid the worker exactly U, the subjective market value, he wouldn't make a profit. Alternatively think of it this way: instead of the worker making the car and getting a wage for it, he could just go out and sell the car he just made on the market and make more money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553045 118400628,118427799,2017-03-26 18:31:07,">>118400761 Can you put Ludwig Lachmann's Capital and its Structure somewhere on the economics list please?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490553067 118400628,118427806,2017-03-26 18:31:08,">>118427394 >autist doesn't get memes Shocking.",,Anonymous,1448695587189.gif,51X/wJHKyHQNSJr9Truo1w==,SI,,1490553068 118400628,118427839,2017-03-26 18:31:18,">>118427534 Then don't use Pinochet or ""le helicopters"" anymore in your stupid memes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553078 118400628,118427848,2017-03-26 18:31:21,">>118427260 c'mon, switzerland. you're supposed to be cool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553081 118400628,118428021,2017-03-26 18:32:27,">>118427386 >no arguments",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553147 118400628,118428192,2017-03-26 18:33:41,">>118427806 >physically removing communists is now a meme Not even surprised.",,Anonymous,1476792806994.png,WPLzyZqdMMCPDVfsUmw9iQ==,US,,1490553221 118400628,118428708,2017-03-26 18:37:20,">>118428192 It always was, you idiot. You think people here are actually fascists? Yea there's some morons like you around. But definitely not a majority.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490553440 118400628,118428815,2017-03-26 18:38:06,">>118428192 lad...you DO know what ""remove"" means, right? Oxford >Take (something) away or off from the position occupied. Merriam-Webster >a : to change the location, position, station, or residence of remove soldiers to the front >b : to transfer (a legal proceeding) from one court to another Cambridge >to take something away from an object, group, or place",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553486 118400628,118428925,2017-03-26 18:38:49,">>118427839 The memefication of that quote was unavoidable, stop bitching about it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490553529 118400628,118429081,2017-03-26 18:39:53,">>118428708 >It always was, you idiot. You think people here are actually fascists? I'll keep that mind in the future. Thank you. >>118428815 Then don't use the great Pinochet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553593 118424454,118424454,2017-03-26 18:09:57,"Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism. >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DON'T SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Regulation is for cucks,Anonymous,libertarians and regulations.webm,7ZPV1okW6BxKEKYQeP/paQ==,US,,1490551797 118424454,118424613,2017-03-26 18:10:57,">>118424454 fpbp",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490551857 118425813,118425813,2017-03-26 18:18:06,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Continued from >>118400628","/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General: ""New Hoppewave Videos"" Edition",Anonymous,you talkin to me.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,PT,,1490552286 118425813,118426151,2017-03-26 18:20:20,">>118425813 first for you are all statists.",,Anonymous,right-libertarians.png,qR/GmFiXOqOGEk3/ErS81g==,US,,1490552420 118425813,118426255,2017-03-26 18:21:05,">>118426151 REMOVE E M O V E",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1490552465 118425813,118426296,2017-03-26 18:21:15,">>118425813 PHYSICALLY REMOVE COMMUNISTS",,Anonymous,CswU6e1UAAEujK-.jpg,4XAPhJGisb0qzjGr7Ql5QA==,US,,1490552475 118425813,118426470,2017-03-26 18:22:26,">free good what did he mean by this",,Anonymous,1486193346754.png,+NaifSDhJgAdk7XrcaYw5w==,US,,1490552546 118425813,118426474,2017-03-26 18:22:27,"Daily reminder that socialists and statists are subject to recreational nuking. Also 3 threads in a row! I love you guys!",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1490552547 118425813,118426650,2017-03-26 18:23:35,">>118425813 This thread meets my standards of worthiness",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552615 118425813,118426713,2017-03-26 18:24:02,">>118426470 >>118426474 HIGH ENERGY THREADS",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1490552642 118425813,118426986,2017-03-26 18:25:46,">>118423357 Rothbard didn't live to see the advent of information technology, which he could not have imagined, that's probably why he resignated himself to the thought we should have to rely on traditional means for political change. >>118426030 >>118425686 >>118425478 Autistic but I like it.",,Anonymous,agorism blackmarket.jpg,GmalMlcv2ZToWjpBLUmZyA==,ES,,1490552746 118425813,118427082,2017-03-26 18:26:19,PHYSICALLY REMOVE,,Anonymous,bullet_for_free.png,kOZDvxl98RYzOmPSuhvOgQ==,US,,1490552779 118425813,118427204,2017-03-26 18:27:06,">>118425813 >>118409790 Thoughts? Could we dump some LibertarianPills here or what?",,Anonymous,IMG_0683.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1490552826 118425813,118427298,2017-03-26 18:27:41,Cute anime hoppe quotes,,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1490552861 118425813,118427315,2017-03-26 18:27:42,">>118427204 drop 'em!",,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1490552862 118425813,118427348,2017-03-26 18:28:01,>>118427298,,Anonymous,quibhoppeseriously'.jpg,ZWMW5uxTuKtVR9AH3E1VPA==,GB,,1490552881 118425813,118427365,2017-03-26 18:28:07,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490552887 118425813,118427368,2017-03-26 18:28:08,>>118427298,,Anonymous,anarcho-cute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1490552888 118425813,118427422,2017-03-26 18:28:29,>>118427348,,Anonymous,quibhoppeequality.jpg,bo3iStzSg3PtXp5+9mb4CA==,GB,,1490552909 118425813,118427423,2017-03-26 18:28:29,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490552909 118425813,118427487,2017-03-26 18:29:00,">>118427365 fuck I totally forgot to post these. fuck I'm tired",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490552940 118425813,118427537,2017-03-26 18:29:23,">>118425813 Shalom!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552963 118425813,118427539,2017-03-26 18:29:24,">>118427315 Moar? Some quotes would be nice so I'll be borrow Britbros nice work. >>118427298",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490552964 118425813,118427575,2017-03-26 18:29:36,>>118427422,,Anonymous,quibhoppegovernment.jpg,HoaVGMOnBy/E9ECYPoHoSQ==,GB,,1490552976 118425813,118427600,2017-03-26 18:29:48,">>118426713 Sunday confirmed holy day of Anarcho-Capitalism. Reds are done for. Make no future for them on pol. There can be no tolerance for commie bullshit.",,Anonymous,1489007111938.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,US,,1490552988 118425813,118427660,2017-03-26 18:30:11,">>118427196 If he's urinating on someone else's property, this would clearly fall under 'social crime'. Standards for the benefit of society are fine, but trying to enforce moral law is outside of the domain of Man. The man in your example is not punished because he's immoral, he's punished because he's breaking the Law. Again: Law and Morality are not the same, though there may be some overlap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553011 118425813,118427662,2017-03-26 18:30:12,">wait anon you don't believe in the Civil Rights Act? A-Are you a racist? wat do?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553012 118425813,118427678,2017-03-26 18:30:19,">>118427539 commencing dump of Hoppe-related images",,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1490553019 118425813,118427798,2017-03-26 18:31:03,Hello to the greatest general thread in /pol/,,Anonymous,Destroyer_of_commies.jpg,zZd5T0k3ecwAup4AiGNYBw==,IL,,1490553063 118425813,118427827,2017-03-26 18:31:14,">>118427662 Tell him/her what Rothbard says in >>118427315",,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1490553074 118425813,118427892,2017-03-26 18:31:38,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1490553098 118425813,118427958,2017-03-26 18:32:05,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1490553125 118425813,118427969,2017-03-26 18:32:09,">>118427539 Not my OC mate, although I've got some on the go. URL I got them from is on the images - great site, seems to be run by an ex SF airborne guy, has loads of anime quotes",,Anonymous,rothbardhuman.jpg,RGetp9fMgQK1sDndguegtg==,GB,,1490553129 118425813,118428015,2017-03-26 18:32:25,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1490553145 118425813,118428067,2017-03-26 18:32:44,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1490553164 118425813,118428112,2017-03-26 18:33:04,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1490553184 118425813,118428129,2017-03-26 18:33:10,"https://youtu.be/uOFuhXn36Ew redpilled as David Duke",,Anonymous,1469219701070.jpg,AJncu3hMuCcjzR0lglETSw==,AU,,1490553190 118425813,118428188,2017-03-26 18:33:39,"Why do so many libertarians get autism? Is it really that cancerous an ideology? reason.com/blog/2011/07/20/being-libertarian-may-cause-au www.zerothposition.com/2016/07/22/an-overview-of-autistic-libertarianism/ righteousmind.com/largest-study-of-libertarian-psych/ https://www.quora.com/Are-there-disproportionately-many-libertarians-with-Aspergers-Syndrome-If-so-why https://reece.liberty.me/an-overview-of-autistic-libertarianism/ www.autismpolicyblog.com/2012/10/libertarians-and-autism.html How do we deal with the LQ(Libertarian/autist Question)?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1490553219 118425813,118428189,2017-03-26 18:33:41,">>118427204 Linked them to this thread and posted the links from the pastebin right now! >>118427866 >>118428086",,Anonymous,ancap1.png,oik2GYzDX3Qa8zdZemTG/w==,ES,,1490553221 118425813,118428198,2017-03-26 18:33:44,">>118427662 I don't believe in voting. Why would I want to expand voting 'rights'? That I don't want to allow children to be molested doesn't mean I'm anti-children, just because it's legal to molest adults with consent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553224 118425813,118428252,2017-03-26 18:34:05,Egoist anarchism>Fake anarchism,,Anonymous,1490567388844.png,+T76fj9taWDcBmd4w9tjBQ==,GB,,1490553245 118425813,118428271,2017-03-26 18:34:15,">>118427662 You're an American. Don't fake egalitarian them. I don't know how socially alpha you are but I am public in my edgyness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553255 118425813,118428273,2017-03-26 18:34:15,">>118428129 >that time when Jeffrey Cucker asked him if he would like to see nationalism rise again in Europe and he was smug as fuck ""well yeah, of course I do..."" >>118428188 Day of the Potato soon",,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1490553255 118425813,118428324,2017-03-26 18:34:39,,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1490553279 118425813,118428383,2017-03-26 18:35:00,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1490553300 118425813,118428415,2017-03-26 18:35:15,">>118428252 >le spooky man ebin :-DdDD",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490553315 118425813,118428460,2017-03-26 18:35:31,>>118428252,,Anonymous,image.jpg,o3mIiH+flrpLN12B9uRInA==,NO,,1490553331 118425813,118428470,2017-03-26 18:35:38,">>118425813 QUEM ÉS TU, EU ANDO À PROCURA DE PORTUGUESES ANCAPS HÁ ANOS, FINALMENTE ALGUEM QUE PENSA COMO EU NESTA MERDA DE PAIS",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490553338 118425813,118428501,2017-03-26 18:35:57,>>118428415,,Anonymous,stirner-laborers.jpg,ym2jsE+zBuiDIgAz7U6gpg==,US,,1490553357 118425813,118428505,2017-03-26 18:35:58,">>118428252 >Fake anarchism Nobody wants to be a 3rd world country",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553358 118425813,118428586,2017-03-26 18:36:30,>>118428415,,Anonymous,1408697286810.png,eL402hioQUdHBWSVu99CUg==,GB,,1490553390 118425813,118428652,2017-03-26 18:36:56,">>118428470 Another ancap?! And then there were four. Hoppe in!",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1490553416 118425813,118428713,2017-03-26 18:37:20,">>118428273 Did I trigger your autism shitskin?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1490553440 118425813,118428722,2017-03-26 18:37:21,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1490553441 118425813,118428732,2017-03-26 18:37:28,">>118426296 >>118427394 >>118427806 Nope. Removing commies is just a meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553448 118425813,118428753,2017-03-26 18:37:39,">>118428252 Egoism is a philosophy, AnCapism is a political system. Stirner would have been a Hoppe libertarian, for Christ sakes, Stirner himself had a business. Also, the freedom of association would support his union of egoists. He would violate the NAP, definetly, but only if he'd get away with it and benefitted him.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490553459 118425813,118428760,2017-03-26 18:37:42,>>118428586,,Anonymous,image.jpg,5BfXfi8aY9K1M74sRXGVtQ==,NO,,1490553462 118425813,118428796,2017-03-26 18:37:58,">>118428505 You want to be a 1st world country? Good luck with that >>118428460 Nice strawman",,Anonymous,1443213065975.jpg,IadeA3Q0lJzF6sC2HoTavg==,GB,,1490553478 118425813,118428858,2017-03-26 18:38:23,"Also a friendly reminder that Ben Garrison is a paleoconservative (ol' school conservative minarchist), and very often his political cartoons convey libertarian points of view. >>118428470 All of Europe is a social democrat POZ zone. ;__;",,Anonymous,swam draining.jpg,PrBWmnBhR7Bxsq6pE4fefg==,ES,,1490553503 118425813,118428877,2017-03-26 18:38:33,">>118428732 >He actually believes it is just a meme",,Anonymous,image.jpg,zigf4STTXkRkOFpgsidEDg==,NO,,1490553513 118425813,118428917,2017-03-26 18:38:45,Physical removal when?,,Anonymous,PhysicalRemoval2.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,GB,,1490553525 118425813,118428970,2017-03-26 18:39:07,,,Anonymous,1481905904349.png,cqv0fM1xzIGL+1MzYKyi2w==,GB,,1490553547 118425813,118429034,2017-03-26 18:39:34,">>118428586 >Tfw you're dead and irrelevant but commies use your likeness to meme against Capitalists even tho Marxism Is a spook as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553574 118425813,118429060,2017-03-26 18:39:44,PHYSICALLY REMOVE FRENCH COMMUNISTS,,Anonymous,STENCHON-THE-MELENCHON.png,YZtL2PWcWsAIO5sCkpHzwQ==,AU,,1490553584 118425813,118429080,2017-03-26 18:39:53,">>118428753 >politics",,Anonymous,1490567862177.png,yk81cF3LRtf0jQ4psKa5qQ==,GB,,1490553593 118425813,118429100,2017-03-26 18:40:00,>>118428713,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1490553600 118425813,118429145,2017-03-26 18:40:21,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1490553621 118425813,118429253,2017-03-26 18:41:10,">>118429080 You know what isn't a spook, getting ass raped by the government for not wanting to share your property. Egoism isn't apathism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490553670 118425813,118429267,2017-03-26 18:41:17,>>118427969,,Anonymous,quibhoppestate.jpg,T9bPZ5V8QWMlN4ViQkjgYg==,GB,,1490553677 118425813,118429332,2017-03-26 18:41:49,">>118429034 >Implying I don't know that Marx hated Stirner",,Anonymous,1490567925385.jpg,5NM5/reQvblSFGbKLBVnFg==,GB,,1490553709 118425813,118429364,2017-03-26 18:42:00,">>118428877 >>118428708 >>118428815 No one here is actually a fascist. Physically remove communists just means deny them service or relocate them. It doesn't mean toss them out of helicopters like the memes directly suggest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553720 118425813,118429380,2017-03-26 18:42:05,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1490553725 118425813,118429385,2017-03-26 18:42:06,,,Anonymous,1470622-Hans-Hermann-Hoppe-Quote-Private-property-implies-exclusivity.jpg,caOQIczEQH/o9P9aULA9Kw==,GB,,1490553726 118425813,118429455,2017-03-26 18:42:30,,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1490553750 118425813,118429558,2017-03-26 18:43:17,,,Anonymous,hoppe reading order.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,PT,,1490553797 118425813,118429595,2017-03-26 18:43:30,,,Anonymous,1470612-Hans-Hermann-Hoppe-Quote-Egalitarianism-in-every-form-and-shape-is.jpg,z2R5XchxW3oc0DzvQxigQA==,GB,,1490553810 118425813,118429609,2017-03-26 18:43:36,,,Anonymous,1488739999641.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1490553816 118425813,118429617,2017-03-26 18:43:39,">>118429253 >implying you a petty worker has the power to change anything",,Anonymous,1490568021855.jpg,gA+QLZnrSg4Jp5BoQEAp1g==,GB,,1490553819 118425813,118429674,2017-03-26 18:44:05,">>118429364 No, remove these people one way or another",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1490553845 118425813,118429716,2017-03-26 18:44:27,"I am here to defend my property and the products of my labor from those who do not work for it and are secured in their ""ownership"" by the state.",,Anonymous,anarchism.png,YQ45QjOlogPxOh2zPYc+qA==,US,,1490553867 118425813,118429718,2017-03-26 18:44:28,"Let's get some backup into this thread and drop pills and out-argue the opposition. >>118409790",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553868 118425813,118429774,2017-03-26 18:44:55,">>118429674 Nope. Are you some kind of fascist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490553895 118425813,118429861,2017-03-26 18:45:31,">>118429364 This is something that had me a lil worried recently. I'm all for the memes but I seriously think we should do some kind of infograph or picture explaining jokes aside what Hoppe actually means by phisical removal. Many people by now might have begun thinking we're actually for throwing people off helicopters.",,Anonymous,reconsider statism.jpg,e0PcU8WLKpYWaCXqYJt8sQ==,ES,,1490553931 118425813,118429863,2017-03-26 18:45:31,,,Anonymous,five stages of redpill.png,kiyb9JLRMDKMdJSJxEgV3w==,PT,,1490553931 118425813,118429944,2017-03-26 18:46:08,>>118429716,,Anonymous,7.jpg,MnFoQzQMsF6vQxvZOrj6mQ==,GB,,1490553968 118425813,118430108,2017-03-26 18:47:22,">>118429861 >Many people by now might have begun thinking we're actually for throwing people off helicopters. I'm honestly kind of stunned by your sheer stupidity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554042 118425813,118430336,2017-03-26 18:48:49,">>118428970 Your memes are more pathetic than your destructive ideology",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490554129 118425813,118430359,2017-03-26 18:49:00,">>118428652 Achas que há esperança cá em Portugal de formar um partido libertário de direita que se tornasse popular? Estou farto de estatistas e comunas neste país",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490554140 118425813,118430387,2017-03-26 18:49:11,">>118429944 You and I are the only non-cucks in this thread.",,Anonymous,on-classcucks.jpg,skY982g1KJCnHb1kAYOPhA==,US,,1490554151 118425813,118430421,2017-03-26 18:49:26,>>118429944,,Anonymous,image.png,6NhS1Me9miSwr7nhUaGT7w==,NO,,1490554166 118425813,118430445,2017-03-26 18:49:38,"Communist memes are absolute shit tier Stick to reddit and twitter kiddos",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554178 118425813,118430608,2017-03-26 18:50:46,">>118429944 Add that to closed border race-based high IQ handsome and healthy only immigration and you are set",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490554246 118425813,118430622,2017-03-26 18:50:52,,,Anonymous,kropotkin-comptetition-is-the-law-of-the-jungle.jpg,ywzP/L8Ld7LxhRaf1mjF6A==,US,,1490554252 118425813,118430673,2017-03-26 18:51:18,">>118428858 >All of Europe is a social democrat POZ zone. ;__; I know spanishbro, what do? Would the creation of right wing libertarian parties ever work?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490554278 118425813,118430690,2017-03-26 18:51:24,">>118430421 She was autistic destructive ideologist. A Jewish one at that",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490554284 118425813,118430809,2017-03-26 18:52:20,">>118429861 I take your point, but that's probably what attracts people in the 1st place. So to speak...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490554340 118425813,118430933,2017-03-26 18:53:11,">>118430387 >Marxposting >>118430359 Acho que sim. Tens metade do eleitorado que não vota porque acredita que nada muda, que o voto vai ser desperdiçado, que isto é tudo a mesma merda, etc. Acho que se criasse um partido economicamente liberal e socialmente tolerante (mas reconhecendo e dizendo que o conservadorismo social é algo que é naturalmente superior à degeneração esquerdista) conseguia-se fazer algo decente. Tinha é que se ter uma plataforma jovem, uma equipa competente e com boa imagem, boa postura, bons memes, bons nomes para chamar aos fdp na política e ser abertamente anti-PC e populista.",,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,YFidbdxwx5ajR3h2gOA+0A==,PT,,1490554391 118425813,118430961,2017-03-26 18:53:20,">>118430673 The elites would never let that happen. Only if you are meme tier nazi nonsense you are alloewed to exist, because those are no real threat. There are several meme parties in Germany that demand the reconquest of now polish territory but no a single one demanding the end of the welfare state. Really gets one pondering.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490554400 118425813,118431004,2017-03-26 18:53:40,">>118430622 Cooperation implies voluntary action, a concept wholly absent from your ideology. There is both cooperation and competition in a world of anarcho capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554420 118425813,118431070,2017-03-26 18:54:05,">>118425813 More physical removal? AYYYY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554445 118425813,118431088,2017-03-26 18:54:13,">>118429861 >thinking we're actually for throwing people off helicopters. Hoppe is not against it so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490554453 118425813,118431109,2017-03-26 18:54:24,">>118430421 >Objectivism",,Anonymous,wew.png,i34nCssT51YUOWP6Uqy3eA==,GB,,1490554464 118425813,118431191,2017-03-26 18:54:57,">>118429861 No dude watch cantwell",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1490554497 118425813,118431239,2017-03-26 18:55:14,">>118430961 You must have a repatriation plan and some minor welfare support base from SPD and CDU tribal natives",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490554514 118425813,118431308,2017-03-26 18:55:46,">>118430673 We have a libertarian party that's not too bad, wants guns bans repealed, Inc carry for self defence etc. But they're absolutely tiny...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490554546 118425813,118431324,2017-03-26 18:55:53,Bumping so to speak,,Anonymous,anarcho_capitalism_wallpaper_by_appriweb-d5xfm41.jpg,tvWQnUfvkFouSs6hWZGMwQ==,NL,,1490554553 118425813,118431414,2017-03-26 18:56:26,">>118431004 >Cooperation implies voluntary action, a concept wholly absent from your ideology. Voluntary action is central, but we cannot speak of it until that which was obtained by involuntary action is undone. >There is both cooperation and competition in a world of anarcho capitalism. Give me an example of such a society that has existed.",,Anonymous,ancap-and-hierarchy.jpg,Vy7gpcnFWMW53SQDaTYrWQ==,US,,1490554586 118425813,118431494,2017-03-26 18:57:01,">>118430673 This entire mindset is completely asymmetrical to the concepts of politics and political parties in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554621 118425813,118431531,2017-03-26 18:57:24,">>118430359 Oh, and this party should strive to be the most anti-egalitarian, chauvinist, patrician, anti-plebeian, pro-monarchy, anti-modernity group you managed to find. Like, a coalition of the uncucked factions of PSD, CDS and PPM and form some sort of New Right with the primary objectives of protecting private property, slashing taxes and regulations, deporting all criminal aliens and gypsies, mocking the Left (calling them things like Bloco de Esterco, for example; or comparing them to Hitler and Stalin in comics and billboards), anti-feminism, anti-bums, anti-drug addicts, anti-alcoholics etc. Really a party that is libertarian but does not fall for ""le social inclusiveness xD"" meme and is the most patrician and edgiest party",,Anonymous,kinsella 8-12.jpg,8yjb8djlA9QYKTuWjLL+Ew==,PT,,1490554644 118425813,118431579,2017-03-26 18:57:45,">>118429861 Hoppe himself recommend a book called ""reactionary liberty"" detailing helicopter related memes. I got a PDF from the author. I have the link on r/ansnekistan",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME_2_.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1490554665 118425813,118431608,2017-03-26 18:57:57,">>118431308 Why should you pursue a party instead of liberty?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490554677 118425813,118431628,2017-03-26 18:58:06,">>118430108 I'm honestly kind of stunned by how easy morons eat up any memes and take them as the truth. ... so you actually believe ancapism is about violently murdering other people? >>118430673 Our P-Lib had some really poor results. And personally I believe voting is immoral and I wouldn't ever do such a thing nor encourage others to do so. The solution is agorism. Information technology is one of the main factors behind the plunging capacity of nation states to tax their citizens. All the political action that is necessary is to withdraw as much support as possible to the state. This can be done via several different ways such as black market activity, tax evasion, offshoring, and a large etcetera. You might think it is not ""political activity"" but it has a way larger effect than your personal vote could ever have in any election. >>118431191 He's just a divulgator, and not one of the best, to be honest.",,Anonymous,capt25.jpg,A1/fHvqcmvD35tYNQs2eQQ==,ES,,1490554686 118425813,118431680,2017-03-26 18:58:31,">>118431414 >Give me an example of such a society that has existed. Fairly ironic thing for a Marxshit shill to say",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554711 118425813,118431708,2017-03-26 18:58:42,">>118430673 Democracy will eat itself, only then we shall be able to live free at last; vastly more responsible and accountable tho There are other factors at play such as tech progress and digital economy, both of which empower individuals ever more; communications allow for finding likeminded individuals to form future covenants with and so on The future is inevitably libertarian and there will be something for everyone (non-NAP violators, of course)",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490554722 118425813,118431798,2017-03-26 18:59:22,">>118431414 That bottom pic still has a leader you dong-washer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554762 118425813,118431827,2017-03-26 18:59:37,">>118431579 https://www.amazon.com/Reactionary-Liberty-Counter-Revolution-Robert-Taylor/dp/1537539078 this? Tell me where Hoppe endorsed it. I had never heard of this!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490554777 118425813,118431829,2017-03-26 18:59:38,">>118431680 >implying I'm Marxist Also I'm just holding you to the same standard.",,Anonymous,origin-of-american-libertarianism.jpg,grQBW5gUtNrNs0tF/IiyUw==,US,,1490554778 118425813,118431905,2017-03-26 19:00:17,ITT: Class cucks and jewish shills,,Anonymous,soon.jpg,z/jufsKPEiwKTpCfUevU7g==,US,,1490554817 118425813,118431912,2017-03-26 19:00:19,">>118425813 I like property rights. I approve of this thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554819 118425813,118431950,2017-03-26 19:00:34,">>118431628 No dude cantwell is great",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1490554834 118425813,118431973,2017-03-26 19:00:48,">>118430933 Meu, tenho de falar contigo. Nem sabes o quanto me impressiona finalmente encontrar alguém com 2 dedos de testa neste país cheio de Catarinas Martins. Eu também sou libertário de direita, apesar de não ser full ancap. Nunca li muito de Hoppe mas aquele que li mais foi Milton Friedman, concordo com 95% do que ele diz. Tens algum contacto, tipo reddit ou assim? >>118430961 Kek, here in portugal we have the same, we have a meme party trying to demand land from spain and to reinstute Estado Novo (aka corporativist dictatorship just like Salazar did). How would one do with creating a libertarian state in portugal or germany?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490554848 118425813,118432008,2017-03-26 19:01:01,">>118431708 Are you from the 76int, no? Nice to meet you here, ebony connoiseur. By the way, those ideas I got them from an amazing book called ""The Sovereign Individual"".",,Anonymous,snekgirl.png,7lEu6FUmgoN9hkJm2c3BFQ==,ES,,1490554861 118425813,118432151,2017-03-26 19:02:11,">>118431798 The bottom pic has a leader, the top pic has a ruler.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554931 118425813,118432168,2017-03-26 19:02:17,">>118431827 I follow a ancap/alt right/maga/fashy Reddit r/physicalremoval and someone emailed hoppe and got a response it's in there somewhere I'll dig out the part for you in a bit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490554937 118425813,118432180,2017-03-26 19:02:20,">>118431905 Fuck off Stormfronter.",,Anonymous,natsoc.jpg,DJzo+gp5j0dQXPU1NNxOuQ==,US,,1490554940 118425813,118432227,2017-03-26 19:02:37,">>118431905 >National ""socialist"" calling anyone a class cuck",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490554957 118425813,118432338,2017-03-26 19:03:25,">>118431905 he says while posting the biggest statist kike of all time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490555005 118425813,118432497,2017-03-26 19:04:37,">>118431905 >Class cucks >National Capitalist kek",,Anonymous,nazis-were-socialist.jpg,Nfj3kBrU8afzlPfP0VJlaw==,US,,1490555077 118425813,118432508,2017-03-26 19:04:46,">>118431827 That sounds pretty good actually",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490555086 118425813,118432607,2017-03-26 19:05:34,">>118429674 How's it going Johnner ?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490555134 118425813,118432695,2017-03-26 19:06:14,">>118432180 >stormfront topkek >tfw your GDP comes before your people >>118432227 Well at least you admit Hitlerism isn't socialism",,Anonymous,Codreanu.jpg,fLs/0G7TGMF/9A2Wzbq16A==,US,,1490555174 118425813,118432771,2017-03-26 19:06:47,">>118431905 At least I have a complete set of testes, unlike that cuck. Anyway, don't you have some boots to lick?",,Anonymous,1488056840752.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,GB,,1490555207 118425813,118432991,2017-03-26 19:08:28,">>118431950 To be honest, I celebrate the death of commie filth too, but a very different thing is to advocate direct violence, which is very anti-libertarian. The point of ""physical removal"" is not to murder people with different ideas. You don't even need to. Physical removal means exclusion, ostracism. You don't need to murder despicable people when their parasitic ideologies that prevent them from becoming self supporting humans assure they will fucking starve to death without free productive people to depend on. In ancapism everything is private property and you need other people's consent to live with them, to be provided with goods and services and etcetera. People who hold such anti social ideas would tend to be excluded from society and civilization. That's all physical removal really is.",,Anonymous,physical removal1.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,ES,,1490555308 118425813,118433056,2017-03-26 19:08:55,">>118432497 Merit > Inheritance , the private sector is the public sector in a truly fascist system. >>118432338 >muh statism Topkek, you realize that even Murray Rothbard eventually became a right wing populist supporting statism, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490555335 118425813,118433067,2017-03-26 19:09:03,Cyborg arms when?,,Anonymous,anarcho.jpg,zwI013Bz2iJiqV63QSRyYA==,CA,,1490555343 118425813,118433178,2017-03-26 19:09:48,">>118432771 >he thinks just because /new/ posted ron paul memes means the whole board was libertarian topkek",,Anonymous,"51mCsTdYL2L._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",bwZu8i5ptTjHGiTtUNasEw==,US,,1490555388 118425813,118433231,2017-03-26 19:10:15,">>118433056 >even Murray Rothbard eventually became a right wing populist supporting statism, right? Could you please source that? First time ever I hear about it and honestly I don't believe you.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490555415 118425813,118433342,2017-03-26 19:11:02,">>118432771 >>118433056 >Merit > Inheritance , the private sector is the public sector in a truly fascist system. State ownership does not make public ownership, otherwise monarchy would be socialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490555462 118425813,118433440,2017-03-26 19:11:37,">>118433178 Last time there was a poll (last week I think) half of the board showed to be libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490555497 118425813,118433548,2017-03-26 19:12:27,">>118431827 https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/ heres the pdf i hosted it after contacting the author who gave me a copy heres the plebbit poster who emailed hoppe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490555547 118425813,118433662,2017-03-26 19:13:10,">>118433548 https://www.reddit.com/r/Physical_Removal/comments/60kiwa/i_emailed_hanshermann_hoppe_on_what_kind_of/ i didn't post the link. heres the guy who emailed hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490555590 118425813,118433808,2017-03-26 19:14:11,">>118433231 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/697923/posts He basically threw his support out for David Duke. He didn't necessarily support statism, he supported right wing nationalism and suggested they went against statism but basically would support populism either way. You wouldn't know this but most people on the Alt-Right are former libertarians and anarcho capitalists. Some are still somewhat libertarian, like Vox Day",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490555651 118425813,118434173,2017-03-26 19:16:48,">>118433440 Straw Polls are not reliable polls, but most of the core demographic of /new/ was pretty diverse, of course you always had the Holocaust denial threads, and then once JIDF literally began shilling here from it a lot of newfags joined in the nazi camp. There were still libertarians but there were always fascists as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490555808 118425813,118434277,2017-03-26 19:17:34,">>118434173 >libertarians >fascist as well",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490555854 118425813,118434366,2017-03-26 19:18:10,">>118433808 >threw his support out for David Duke Yea I'm ancap and I still stayed up all night rooting for Trump. Doesn't mean shit.",,Anonymous,Trump banter stops.png,Xwan6F2BhlaRNu9eAG+mCg==,SI,,1490555890 118425813,118434467,2017-03-26 19:18:54,">>118434277 does this bother you?",,Anonymous,14812312414123.gif,Gs10FLI3otYoMQBxwF0lHQ==,US,,1490555934 118425813,118434521,2017-03-26 19:19:15,">>118427660 What law?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490555955 118425813,118434541,2017-03-26 19:19:23,">>118433808 >Cops must be unleashed, and allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error. Fuck, I finally found where that famous quote came from. Still haven't read it because it's a long text but I don't see how supporting a specific cultural force makes him a statist or whatever else. >>118434173 >muh shillz",,Anonymous,>muh shillz.png,O4pJM36PXUax884RdYsKWA==,ES,,1490555963 118425813,118434701,2017-03-26 19:20:32,">>118434366 >Doesn't mean shit He literally says support right wing populism even it becomes pro-statism as long as it destroys the current establishment. Which is the right idea, libertarians and fascists can't afford to not fight a common enemy. Of course afterwards we need to do away with that pro jewish crap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490556032 118425813,118434714,2017-03-26 19:20:38,">>118434467 It just makes no sense Those are two rivalrous ideologies. One cannot be both at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490556038 118425813,118434760,2017-03-26 19:21:00,HELP ME ARGUE AGAINST THE LEFTISTS DESIGNATED LEFTIST AND RIGHTLY SO HERE >>118433976,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490556060 118425813,118434853,2017-03-26 19:21:39,">>118431708 and demographics is key here. Non-European jewish infested society can't achieve the goal of liberty and financial prosperity",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490556099 118425813,118434998,2017-03-26 19:22:38,">>118432008 Don't know what 76int is I'm just an anon who's been disillusioned with fake choices put forth by the powers that be and the opportunists who are seemingly running the show/plundering the people after regular popularity contests called elections I have firsthand experience with public bids and the whore that is the state budget/its users, I also don't believe in codified ponzi schemes like single-payer healthcare and payg pension schemes, nor do I think that the codified victimization of citizens who experience evil firsthand because of euro style so-called sanctity of life, effectively neutering the pop against NAP violators",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490556158 118425813,118435014,2017-03-26 19:22:45,">>118434760 >based Ayn Rand oh shit, they're going theosophy now ? >hi im h.blavatsky and this is jackass",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490556165 118425813,118435036,2017-03-26 19:22:56,">>118434541 >people still believe these incredibly buttmad libertarian rants on how /pol/ is their safespace and how dare people disagree with them I guess most of you don't realize that there were people who used both 4chan and stormfront and that the attention from stormfront didn't come until JIDF came onto the scene. (which they admitted they did btw)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490556176 118425813,118435144,2017-03-26 19:23:40,">>118434701 Well yea, of course I'd prefer less government and immigration. Doesn't mean I'm gonna change my ideology.",,Anonymous,1450642252132.jpg,Raz9r2g7Uu0AOUzp7suXsA==,SI,,1490556220 118425813,118435215,2017-03-26 19:24:04,">>118434714 Well they were both on /new/ i don't know what to say. Of course the libertarians were always mad because muh statism muh stormfront but there were always holocaust denial threads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490556244 118425813,118435257,2017-03-26 19:24:26,">>118431973 Nope. Segue os grupos Miseanos portugueses no zucc que encontras 800 pessoas lá que gostam de Hoppe.",,Anonymous,commie drop.png,16lXUiJDa1n0cALqemu3nw==,PT,,1490556266 118425813,118435336,2017-03-26 19:25:00,">>118434760 please ignore this poster, he's a roblox playing autist who knows not what he does.",,Anonymous,1479349661860.png,Fa/9+j2jJ5gK8PEhA+kSuQ==,GB,,1490556300 118425813,118435338,2017-03-26 19:25:00,">>118432151 >>118433548 thanks!",,Anonymous,physical removal insues.png,vodplgKDngqNlpNR/Uj59A==,PT,,1490556300 118425813,118435367,2017-03-26 19:25:13,">>118425813 Oh, how I'd like to see /pol/ return to a Libertarian board. To be an oldfag and know the glory, tis painful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490556313 118425813,118435385,2017-03-26 19:25:18,">>118435215 I misread your post lol I read there were libertarians but *they* were fascist as well carry on",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490556318 118425813,118435586,2017-03-26 19:26:49,">>118434853 Undubitably, I hold great trust in my own in-group individuals by default I distrust aliens by default, however they may demonstrate their worth and be ultimately accepted=assimilated; anything less is a ticking time bomb as far as they go",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490556409 118425813,118435822,2017-03-26 19:28:36,">>118435586 >may demonstrate their worth If they are European, high IQ, healthy and handsome in the first place. Point micro immigration should be eugenic",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490556516 118425813,118435824,2017-03-26 19:28:37,">>118435144 Sure. As long as we drive back the foreign hordes lets be allies for now. Problem with that is that if you want to do that you're eventually going need to join us to do something about the JQ, and crytpo jew question as well. Which means protectionism if you really want to do something about the Rothschilds.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490556517 118425813,118436037,2017-03-26 19:30:10,">>118435367 >return to a Libertarian board. /pol/ was created because /new/ had too much nazi shit going on for moots liking. /pol/ has always been extremely right wing and has always had fascists, dark enlightenment fags, and other statists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490556610 118425813,118436221,2017-03-26 19:31:31,">>118434853 Neither can we.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490556691 118425813,118436267,2017-03-26 19:31:49,"Itt:""edgy"" neolibs",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490556709 118425813,118436436,2017-03-26 19:33:09,">>118435822 Agreed, discrimination is indisputable birthright of any covenant",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490556789 118425813,118436608,2017-03-26 19:34:34,">>118436267 >t. living example of why a social state is shit",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490556874 118425813,118436821,2017-03-26 19:36:08,">>118436267 >>118429847",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490556968 118425813,118436945,2017-03-26 19:37:03,">>118425813 Libertarianism, anarcho-capitalism, and capitalism have nothing to do with your physical removal Nazi bullshit. You fascist retards are a lot more similar to commies than you are to libertarians or capitalists. Here's the only kind of physical removal I support: you offing yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557023 118425813,118437276,2017-03-26 19:39:12,">>118436945 >muh sacred democracy >taxes dindu nuffin >just accept that the government is a violent aggressor and don't fight back",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490557152 118425813,118437413,2017-03-26 19:40:12,">>118436945 Take your wild theories and go elsewhere. You must protect your libertarian social order. Commies will always violently oppose private property and will seek to destroy it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557212 118425813,118437487,2017-03-26 19:40:43,">>118437276 When the government is a violent aggressor, fight back, sure. But if what you want to do is to replace the government with a fascist government, as if that would be an improvement, then off yourself. It's that simple.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557243 118425813,118437507,2017-03-26 19:40:54,">>118436945 >>118429861 >>118429364",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490557254 118425813,118437611,2017-03-26 19:41:31,">>118437413 Sounds good. I'm all for self-defense. But like I said, if you want to go further than self-defense and impose a fascist government, then... wait for it... off yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557291 118425813,118437747,2017-03-26 19:42:24,">>118436608 except the ones that took in the most immigrants where right leaning liberals",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490557344 118425813,118437810,2017-03-26 19:42:49,">>118437487 What we want is the right to determine for our self how we want to govern. The right of association grants us the possibility to form gated communities that everybody can govern as he sees fit, as long as he doesn't violate the NAP of not consenting people. The communists leading the current dictatorship you call government keep us from doing that by force.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490557369 118425813,118437851,2017-03-26 19:43:10,">>118437611 >AnCap >fascist government yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah no",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490557390 118425813,118437912,2017-03-26 19:43:39,">>118437611 Lol no patrons of this thread are fascists. You're in good company here.",,Anonymous,McGas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1490557419 118425813,118437966,2017-03-26 19:44:08,">>118437747 >""le libertarian parties of Europe"" There is not a single not socialist party in the EU, Sven. Show me a single one supporting the abolishment of welfare and government interference in the market, then we can talk.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490557448 118425813,118438002,2017-03-26 19:44:25,">>118437912 LOL *not fascists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557465 118425813,118438024,2017-03-26 19:44:36,">>118436945 Or maybe you should read the thread before jumping in lad. Hoppe himself liked it to excommunication for catholics. Physical removed explained here >>118432991 >>118432991",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490557476 118425813,118438050,2017-03-26 19:44:44,Ancap reporting in. what did i miss?,,Anonymous,IMG_20170317_235626[1].jpg,SFpE/2R/PFUTQxgyibMNrA==,US,,1490557484 118425813,118438115,2017-03-26 19:45:12,">>118437810 I support your right to secede from your nation and form communities where you restrict membership as you see fit. If that's all you want, I've got no problem with it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557512 118425813,118438207,2017-03-26 19:45:54,">>118438024 Might want to take it easy on the helicopter memes, then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557554 118425813,118438312,2017-03-26 19:46:39,">>118438024 And the Pinochet cock gobbling... as if Pinochet's state had any resemblance to a libertarian nation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557599 118425813,118438416,2017-03-26 19:47:31,,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490557651 118425813,118438503,2017-03-26 19:48:05,">>118425813 Haha you temporally embarrassed millionaires.. cucked in to your own ideology by yourselves.",,Anonymous,1490415436348.jpg,Jx1oNhqXHbyO2QeAk2wn5A==,US,,1490557685 118425813,118438529,2017-03-26 19:48:17,">>118438115 The problem is, the government won't allow this and even if we could achieve it, we'd be forced into submission again immediatly. That'S why Anarcho Capitalism has to be global, so that this liberty can't be forced back. Once every unvoluntarily created government is eliminated, people can start to govern themselves if they want, but this time the consent of every citizen is needed. A world of a thousand Luxembourgs with free trade, that is the AnCap endgame.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490557697 118425813,118438546,2017-03-26 19:48:24,">>118436267 kys so you can stop fucking my country even further you commie ape",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490557704 118425813,118438556,2017-03-26 19:48:29,">>118437966 the guy that was our prime minister had openly advocated for the removal of the wefare state before he joined a neoliberal party, offcourse you can't openly advocate for the removal of the welfare state if you ant power here so instead he let in hordes of immigrants to crash the welfare state. >welfare is le socialism nothing with a welfare state is mutually exlucive with capitalism, not that i'm advocating for a welfare state. i think it's cancer",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490557709 118425813,118438810,2017-03-26 19:50:27,">>118438529 The problem is that there is about a 90% chance that in the brutal struggle to free yourselves from the existing power structures, you will turn into cold-hearted fascists/commies who only mouth the former ideals of liberty, but no longer care about them. That's what usually happens. It is very very hard to fight against statism without becoming statism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557827 118425813,118438885,2017-03-26 19:51:01,">>118438115 >>118438024 Hoppe is a conservative lolbertarian. Doesnt anybody here get that? as in a wallcuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557861 118425813,118438904,2017-03-26 19:51:09,">>118438503 Fly commie.",,Anonymous,FAHR.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,US,,1490557869 118425813,118438950,2017-03-26 19:51:29,">>118438556 The thing is, if you even control the tiniest bit of the market, you've got Interventionism at best. Every form of Capitalism that isn't laissez faire will never work, since the whole market gets inorganic through the government's manipulation.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490557889 118425813,118439062,2017-03-26 19:52:12,">>118438416 i'm not a libertarian as I do not condone the state under any means as it cannot survive without taxes and coercion. I am an anarchist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557932 118425813,118439117,2017-03-26 19:52:39,">>118427423 Absolutely exquisite dump, kek bless you. Saving all of this for future reading.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490557959 118425813,118439274,2017-03-26 19:53:47,">>118438810 Statism and a non democratic system are two different things. There is a reason Hoppe argues that monarchy is better fit to protect liberty than democracy, since democracy is nothing more than communism lite. So yes, I do support a transitioning, non democratic system, but the end goal will always be a stateless system.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490558027 118425813,118439420,2017-03-26 19:54:57,">>118439062 Anarchists are libertarians by definition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490558097 118425813,118439476,2017-03-26 19:55:21,">>118436221 You misspelled you, Takbir. The selective protectionist market or eugenic mass effort will clean up Russia for good",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490558121 118425813,118439515,2017-03-26 19:55:37,">>118438950 what are some examples of laissez faire working?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490558137 118425813,118439623,2017-03-26 19:56:32,">>118437276 Full abolition of the government would give us a green light to slaughter shitskin families, so that's a good development",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490558192 118425813,118439687,2017-03-26 19:56:58,">>118439515 None. Free trade doesn't work",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490558218 118425813,118439904,2017-03-26 19:58:26,">>118439274 >I do support a transitioning, non democratic system Never in history has this actually led to a stateless system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490558306 118425813,118440028,2017-03-26 19:59:10,">>118439515 Every voluntary transaction in a free market.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490558350 118425813,118440063,2017-03-26 19:59:20,">>118439687 That's retarded. Then why are there tons of ilial Illegal and unregulated trades that thrive. I sell shit all the time unregulated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490558360 118425813,118440225,2017-03-26 20:00:28,">>118439515 https://www.libertarianism.org/publications/essays/how-laissez-faire-made-sweden-rich",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490558428 118425813,118440237,2017-03-26 20:00:36,">>118431414 All the fallout games lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490558436 118425813,118440274,2017-03-26 20:00:52,">>118439904 Never in history had anybody the intention to use it as transitioning system into anarcho capitalism, only into communism, which, despite its (((philosopher's))) opinion is not possible without a state.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490558452 118425813,118440655,2017-03-26 20:03:35,"Holy fucking fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdSCVJC513A The dude who wrote that book Hoppe endorsed is a fucking /pol/ack most likely. Look at the people he's chatting with ROBERT TAYLOR WHERE ART THOU?",,Anonymous,colored jew.png,d3QgeMqTyYUFao/IdggU4w==,PT,,1490558615 118425813,118440791,2017-03-26 20:04:31,">>118438416 >reactionary element to its philosophy So team up with Moldbug and start calling the movement right libertarianism? Anyone read it yet?",,Anonymous,1453801018991.gif,88U75A90tx5BbxNE5CvuPQ==,SI,,1490558671 118425813,118441083,2017-03-26 20:06:46,">>118440655 Read it for us. It is crucial to know if hoppe approves of helicopter removal. This could be the philosophical breakthrough we've been seeking.",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1490558806 118425813,118441174,2017-03-26 20:07:34,">>118441083 I will, if I have the time. I'm listening to the video and they're speaking in pretty /pol/ terms.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490558854 118425813,118441415,2017-03-26 20:09:18,">>118440274 In reality anarcho capitalism is also probably not possible without a state... which means, of course, that it is in effect not possible. The problem of how the an-cap society would defend itself from outsiders without its own state has still not been solved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490558958 118425813,118441432,2017-03-26 20:09:24,">>118425813 Oh man, didn't know you made a new channel, I have been waiting for some new H O P P E W A V E",,Anonymous,1489072889823.png,bS/n+OcobuxGJq2Hs6uasQ==,US,,1490558964 118425813,118441490,2017-03-26 20:09:45,">>118440655 >Pinochet did nothing wrong >Franco did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,1467416500297.jpg,3KsIcK/6Z0hU5xokgcpwTw==,SI,,1490558985 118425813,118441620,2017-03-26 20:10:30,">>118441432 That's not my channel tho. It's another based anon. I did the first two videos and another anon made the third. You people should also start doing H O P P E W A V E to be honest familias.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490559030 118425813,118441693,2017-03-26 20:11:01,">>118438312 Pinochet was a neo-liberal corporatist dictator who killed communists. Both fascists and libertarians like him for that reason.",,Anonymous,1488598116022.jpg,tgJGFvVxfoA6+x7Ofq6g8Q==,US,,1490559061 118425813,118441831,2017-03-26 20:11:52,">>118441490 Guess who else did nothing wrong?",,Anonymous,1482051573191.png,HcG8J6uu/iXFWGJbh3GjZQ==,US,,1490559112 118425813,118441932,2017-03-26 20:12:27,">>118441620 I've got some ideas floating around for video propaganda. I don't think I have the taste to make good hoppewave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559147 118425813,118442081,2017-03-26 20:13:23,">>118441932 free your inner Hoppean spirit anon. We need all the memes we can get",,Anonymous,guide to ancap.jpg,Ct6y00S0WbVLMPr2fEghgg==,PT,,1490559203 118425813,118442289,2017-03-26 20:14:47,">>118441415 Anarcho Capitalism isn't stateless per se, only the governmental system which forces people in it against their will must be abolished. Creating a gated community with people who want to be a part of said community is perfectly fine. Like I said, a world full of micro states.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490559287 118425813,118442296,2017-03-26 20:14:53,">>118441620 Do you run that subreddit? To be honest senpai I always recognize you as the portugese ancap anon in many threads hah",,Anonymous,1483799405122.jpg,Tx76UNf98S3PWO2mf1sdxg==,US,,1490559293 118425813,118442467,2017-03-26 20:15:58,">>118441831 Hugo Boss",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559358 118425813,118442473,2017-03-26 20:16:01,">>118442296 No, I don't run any of the websites, subreddits or any of that stuff. I just do a lot of the OC, and then you guys do the rest. I'm just the spark that lights the fire anon.",,Anonymous,physically removed 2.png,sONErO6I9N64VyGp7IkqkQ==,PT,,1490559361 118425813,118442545,2017-03-26 20:16:29,">>118441693 >neo liberal corporatist Please, stop using buzzwords you don't even understand. These two things are pretty much polar opposites.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490559389 118425813,118442654,2017-03-26 20:17:16,"Okay guys I gotta go. See you tomorrow. Do not go gentle into that good helicopter.",,Anonymous,1442603-1-L.jpg,OyUYUBW1ZzEfpF8S5X2HCA==,PT,,1490559436 118425813,118442705,2017-03-26 20:17:37,">>118442296 I do and the hoppe YouTube",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559457 118425813,118442972,2017-03-26 20:19:32,>>118442654,,Anonymous,3C8ADBF900000578-4160648-President_Trump_is_pictured_above_saluting_as_he_gets_off_Marine-a-74_1485451613689.jpg,nGfwILxSqFvb9GJGHOxRKw==,SE,,1490559572 118425813,118443059,2017-03-26 20:20:09,"Guy from other thread with retarded phone. Phone does not allow for resizing. Told phone to not tread on me and grabbed laptop and made it correct dimensions for my blackberry priv. No tred plox",,Anonymous,1490556479211.png,vbrT9TNJMHWw8SCt7jlTBQ==,US,,1490559609 118425813,118443124,2017-03-26 20:20:37,">>118442972 Dank image. Saved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559637 118425813,118443251,2017-03-26 20:21:32,">>118441693 If you like Pinochet, you're not a libertarian. End of story.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559692 118425813,118443260,2017-03-26 20:21:37,">>118443059 >those lines >treading intensifies",,Anonymous,1490556479211.png,xrpudr8YYVD3YlC4rB7E6w==,US,,1490559697 118425813,118443400,2017-03-26 20:22:44,"ONE NO ONE TREAD ON ME TWO NO ONE TREAD ON ME THRE NO ONE TREAD ON ME AHHHHHHHHHHHHH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559764 118425813,118443419,2017-03-26 20:22:56,">>118442289 That makes more sense. I guess national defense has to be handled collectively in some way. To properly defend itself the nation will probably need nukes, and nukes need a lot of infrastructure, and there must be some sort of arrangement for maintaining them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559776 118425813,118443432,2017-03-26 20:23:02,">>118425813 People who like Hoppe should participate in the creation of The Memetic Principality of Kek here: http://1espzufmsehqffgzbvz3fkwhjzalqqatjo.club/index.php",,Anonymous,1490560298626.jpg,KsJF6gT8ksEedPiv4nhOVA==,ES,,1490559782 118425813,118443493,2017-03-26 20:23:23,">>118442545 >bring in Milton Friedman to redesign economy >privatize US interests in Chile to keep Allende from stealing money Yeah no he was a neoliberal corporatist. Those two things are not as unlike as you think autism bro",,Anonymous,1486414369983.jpg,OyoZJvUrIdtiMVa8bbD1ew==,US,,1490559803 118425813,118443542,2017-03-26 20:23:47,">>118443419 There is no nation tho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559827 118425813,118443561,2017-03-26 20:23:57,">>118443400 Kek",,Anonymous,AncapBall.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1490559837 118425813,118443677,2017-03-26 20:24:54,">>118443251 >privatize industry >kill communists >remove organized labor efforts from maoist reformists hmmmm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559894 118425813,118443776,2017-03-26 20:25:44,How do resurrect the the fight against the Fed?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559944 118425813,118443785,2017-03-26 20:25:49,">CHOOSE HOPPE >CHOOSE HOPPE >CHOOSE HOPPE",,Anonymous,HoppePoster.jpg,hQipYVn2ABY/CTM7ENochw==,US,,1490559949 118425813,118443798,2017-03-26 20:25:53,">>118427368 >>118427298 Be careful with anime, anons. Recreational anime is fine, but weird otakus with anime love pillows are part of those alternative, non-family centered lifestyles that cannot be tolerated in a libertarian covenant.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1490559953 118425813,118443824,2017-03-26 20:26:05,">>118443419 This implies that the nation grows so much that it wants to expand and create a bigger government. This development needs to be prevented as soon as it starts, this is a issue discussed in Hoppe's Democracy - the god that failed. I admit, for Anarcho capitalism to work the people need to really understand the aspects of the system, but that's why I don't want a radical change of systems, people need to be eased into it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490559965 118425813,118443864,2017-03-26 20:26:26,">>118443542 The guy I was responding to said that there must be some form of state to defend the territory. I think that's probably correct. Without some form of state, the territory would be seized by outsiders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490559986 118425813,118443917,2017-03-26 20:26:51,">>118443251 I like pinochet and tons of other state leaders. Doesn't mean I agree with their actions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560011 118425813,118444002,2017-03-26 20:27:37,">>118443824 No, it doesn't matter whether the nation grows or not. Without some kind of deterrent, the nation would be gobbled up by some other nation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560057 118425813,118444132,2017-03-26 20:28:37,">>118443864 Exactly, these states fuction like gated communities, so one can decide for oneself if he wants to join and if one doesn't you can always create your own community in which you band together with like minded people. That'S the difference between these ""states"" and our current system of governments, the voluntary part.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490560117 118425813,118444180,2017-03-26 20:29:05,">>118444002 nations don't exist goyim we are all one human race :^) fuck statism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560145 118425813,118444241,2017-03-26 20:29:34,">>118425813 I went to the YAL summit in Boston yesterday, what a fucking joke. Don't even try to equate Hoppe with the modern libertarian movement >What Ron Paul said We need to stop the FDA from regulating and restricting drug production >what the audience heard DUDE WEED LMAO",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560174 118425813,118444277,2017-03-26 20:29:49,">>118443677 The multiple human rights abuses (murder, torture, rape, etc.) don't matter to you? Or the fact that he didn't set up a libertarian state? Jeeze.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560189 118425813,118444472,2017-03-26 20:31:08,">>118444277 Communists stop becoming humans the moment they drop the most human right of all: the right to property",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1490560268 118425813,118444500,2017-03-26 20:31:24,">>118444132 >live on the borders of nation you radically disagree with on deeply rooted moral issues >just move there because muh voluntarism >destroy them from the inside out because of extremely abstract ideals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560284 118425813,118444730,2017-03-26 20:33:16,">>118444472 That's a very unethical way of looking at things. if you want to think that way, just admit that you're a fascist and stop sullying the good word libertarianism with your filth. It's one thing to defend yourself against communists - nothing wrong with that. But Pinochet and his people went much further. They didn't just put commies in prisons and give them fair trials, as a proper libertarian movement would. Nope, they went quite a bit farther than that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560396 118425813,118444735,2017-03-26 20:33:18,">>118444500 Who said they have to let you in? Discrimination is the right of the owner of the property.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490560398 118425813,118444792,2017-03-26 20:33:37,">>118444277 >multiple human rights abuses Pic related, using force is necessary to preserve the good of the people. Communists would never extend you the same rights, do not give them your own arbitrary rights and let Saul Alinksy win.",,Anonymous,de maistre.jpg,AzgFhLoDzgvVN/qab/87Bw==,US,,1490560417 118425813,118444893,2017-03-26 20:34:32,">>118444792 Once you have taken people prisoner, they are no longer a threat, and there is zero libertarian justification to commit human rights abuses against them. If you disagree, you are simply not a libertarian. End of story.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560472 118425813,118444922,2017-03-26 20:34:47,">>118444730 >t.commie Concern trolls get removed too",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490560487 118425813,118444964,2017-03-26 20:34:59,">>118444241 Which is really rather unfortunate. A lot of the posts in this thread are actually in regards to actual libertarianism (rothbard, hoppe...) but what the party and movement has become is an absolute joke. If you were to round up everyone that voted for johnson and selet one at random, the odds that that one person would be one of the ""Gay sex and weed """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""libertarians"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" would be (in my estimate) over 60%. So stop pretending the LPis anything but the democratic party of the early 2000s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560499 118425813,118444980,2017-03-26 20:35:06,"Required watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4 Required reading: https://mises.org/library/case-discrimination",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490560506 118425813,118444988,2017-03-26 20:35:11,">>118444730 >hey, this guy wants to subjugate us and strip away from us all our individuality and humanity! >nah, he's fine, let him live in the same community as us, it's ok",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560511 118425813,118445079,2017-03-26 20:36:03,">>118444735 Oh so you're going to go with the ""divided into small communities of radically different peoples, we are stonger because we have no common rules except don't tread on reeee"" meme? topkek you'll get your shit pushed in by any large collective willing to win more than they are willing to be ""moral"" by your standards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560563 118425813,118445087,2017-03-26 20:36:08,">>118444922 So expressing concern about murder/torture/rape = concern trolling now? Hmm... Nah, don't think so.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560568 118425813,118445203,2017-03-26 20:37:12,">>118425813 My review of the HOPPEWAVE tracks >I MUST LOOT The ""physical removal"" track was great, only christopher cantwell voiceover being so loud somewhat spoils it ""the argument"" is a good track, very comfy, nothing much wrong here other than the voice can be blended in better but of course such autistic work takes a lot of time ""end democracy"" has quite a poor instrumental track with it, a shame for such a title",,Anonymous,1486683288003.jpg,1CUgD4eePzIjR9/MShIgIQ==,US,,1490560632 118425813,118445262,2017-03-26 20:37:36,">>118444988 What I'm saying is that if you have taken someone prisoner and they are no longer a threat, you should treat them with human decency - or you don't have the right to call yourself a libertarian. Which is something that the Pinochet cock-gobblers never seem to understand.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560656 118425813,118445275,2017-03-26 20:37:41,">>118444893 >they are no longer a threat >lolbertarians actuall believe this Topkek, maybe being a libertarianism is a dead meme and has been 5 years? No, when you put people in prison they become even more of a threat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560661 118425813,118445385,2017-03-26 20:38:36,">>118444472 If you live in a place with property tax you cannot own anything, simply rent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560716 118425813,118445434,2017-03-26 20:38:58,">>118445275 What threat are they in prison? That they will write books and organize? That is fine. A libertarian society does not try to stop people from writing books and organizing, since those do not violate the NAP. If you disagree, you're simply not a libertarian. End of story.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560738 118425813,118445529,2017-03-26 20:39:38,">>118425813 the hoppewave shit is so fucking great",,Anonymous,924560221.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,US,,1490560778 118425813,118445686,2017-03-26 20:41:09,">>118445434 Again, who said being a libertarian is a good thing? Pinochet was not a libertarian but libertarians tend to like Pinochet. Its almost like people are moving away from libertarian autism. >What threat to people pose from prison I don't know, do you just not know anything about free markets and how prison system tend to work? You realize how many drug lords and jihadists have been able to rule from and subvert societies from within prison, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560869 118425813,118445789,2017-03-26 20:42:08,">>118445079 What profit would this large collective have by doing that? They would provoke retaliation for being an aggressor, they'd be attacked by others who don't care for expansion and want to preserve the status quo. It just isn't a risk worth taking, since it wouldn't wiel a profit compared to the necessary cost such an operation would cost.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490560928 118425813,118445811,2017-03-26 20:42:16,">>118445434 The most famous book written by someone in a prison is pic related btw",,Anonymous,121312422123124.png,T5Ju1GIJHWNrfCRJgWHjKQ==,US,,1490560936 118425813,118445859,2017-03-26 20:42:37,">>118445686 Alright, well as long as you're clear on the fact that you are not a libertarian, then we understand each other. I am a libertarian. I just don't like it when fascists pretend to be libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490560957 118425813,118446056,2017-03-26 20:44:15,">>118445811 Sure, and a functioning libertarian society would be fine with Hitler writing Mein Kampf in prison. However, it would not allow him to pass the Enabling Act and take other authoritarian measures if he was elected.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490561055 118425813,118446167,2017-03-26 20:45:09,">>118445789 >They would provoke retaliation for being an aggressor, they'd be attacked by others who don't care for expansion and want to preserve the status quo Its almost like if there is a larger and more powerful mass of people who do want to expand into enemy territory and find profits from this either in the act itself or in their investment into a particular military industrial complex would have no problem abusing the media to invade other smaller and much weaker collectives of people. What profit? Could be access to resources an major port towns, eliminating trade rivals, religious war, etc.",,Anonymous,1488926506045.jpg,BkyN9xZzrxzA1lFq+K2p+g==,US,,1490561109 118425813,118446348,2017-03-26 20:46:37,">>118445859 I never said I was a libertarian we were arguing over whether or not Pinochet was. >>118446056 >A democratic society would never betray its own mores if convinced to betray their own mores en masse, thats impossible, when has that ever happened? kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490561197 118425813,118446496,2017-03-26 20:47:48,Requesting snek rearing up into Totalitarianis in reponse to leftist freedom smashing boot.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490561268 118425813,118446519,2017-03-26 20:47:59,">>118446167 No nuclear power has been invaded so far.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490561279 118425813,118446718,2017-03-26 20:49:36,">>118446167 >the media What use would ""abusing the media"" have? >what profit? I didn't say there weren't things that could be gained, but a net profit would be incredibly unlikely since a retaliation by the rest of the communities, who all will oppose a growth of a aggressive state will not help the profit outweighing the losses. Like I said, the growth of a state and its government needs to be counteracted as soon as it begins to grow.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490561376 118425813,118446739,2017-03-26 20:49:46,">>118446348 >I never said I was a libertarian we were arguing over whether or not Pinochet was. Fair enough. There are a number of very vocal ""libertarians"" who are actually fascists, though. For example, the Hoppe retards. >A democratic society would never betray its own mores if convinced to betray their own mores en masse, thats impossible, when has that ever happened? A democratic society would never betray its own mores if convinced to betray their own mores en masse, thats impossible, when has that ever happened? >A democratic society would never betray its own mores if convinced to betray their own mores en masse, thats impossible, when has that ever happened? >A democratic society would never betray its own mores if convinced to betray their own mores en masse, thats impossible, when has that ever happened? That's why republic > democracy. Also, I said ""functioning libertarian society"". Of course, a dysfunctional one could fall prey to authoritarian populism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490561386 118425813,118446942,2017-03-26 20:51:25,">>118441831 >implying National Socialism was pro-liberty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490561485 118425813,118447044,2017-03-26 20:52:18,">>118446519 yet :^) but if you were to radically divide up people and the share of nuclear power based on a mandate of voluntarism (oxymoron but thats what it would take to create a libertarian society) then yes. Nuclear powers would be invaded all the time. No one would launch the nukes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490561538 118425813,118447107,2017-03-26 20:52:51,>>118446942,,Anonymous,tay.jpg,UpcUJ41dlFwBolgyn8N8dg==,US,,1490561571 118425813,118447270,2017-03-26 20:54:15,">>118447044 >No one would launch the nukes. You'd be willing to risk a nuclear holocaust to steal? Your own people would hang you.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490561655 118425813,118447682,2017-03-26 20:57:47,">>118446718 >by the rest of the communities Why would they? If people suddenly lived in voluntarist states and divided each other into radically different sects of moral and religious beliefs based on honoring one clause that says if one invades the other, the rest invade the one, didn't work too well for the League of Nations or even the UN today now does it? >what use would ""abusing the media have"" Might want to give this a read some time, the man who control the crowd control the sway of politics. Abuse the way people access information and you control the people, if you control the people you control all political direction. A man willing to lie and with a silver enough tongue can convince the crows to jump off a bridge for their collective interest.",,Anonymous,the crowd.jpg,qHvg8yetAho/b88bdJyNWg==,US,,1490561867 118425813,118447744,2017-03-26 20:58:20,">>118447270 Except my own people would be the ones who want to do it :^)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490561900 118425813,118447763,2017-03-26 20:58:26,">>118447270 >>118447044 Ukraine was recently invaded. I had a coworker whose daughter and son were high ups in the Ukrainian military, had the war gone any further there would have been an exchange.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490561906 118425813,118447899,2017-03-26 20:59:41,">>118447744 Then you deserve to get nuked.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490561981 118425813,118448063,2017-03-26 21:00:58,">>118447763 >STAKER almost became real life cyka blyat, but sadly you cannot prove this although the problem with nukes is that they are always an option. Which is why a secession into many voluntarist communes would never work, still.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562058 118425813,118448147,2017-03-26 21:01:32,"Ethics of Liberty vs Man Economy and State. Trying to decide what to buy next to keep my reading list growing. It seems M.E.S is always compared to human action (own, but haven't start yet). How do the topics vary?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562092 118425813,118448252,2017-03-26 21:02:27,">>118447899 There would be many of us, all with the same intent. Plus we took some of the nukes as well. Everyone gets nuked, or else there will be large scale skirmishes between seperate groups based on perceived violations of morality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562147 118425813,118448566,2017-03-26 21:05:12,">>118448252 >There would be many of us, all with the same intent. Plus we took some of the nukes as well. Keep giving yourself more advantages. Next you'll say you have spaceships. >Everyone gets nuked, or else there will be large scale skirmishes So glad you'll never be in charge of anything.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490562312 118425813,118448638,2017-03-26 21:05:42,">>118426296 Communists have the same rights as everyone else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562342 118425813,118448977,2017-03-26 21:08:38,">>118448566 Well if its not me, then its someone, and say in the US there were many different voluntarism groups in charge of many different military bases and nukes. Of course, since the right to discriminate still exists, people form radically different groups centered on morality, and yes you are kicking out major portions of the US populution into many different areas very suddenly. You think that isn't going to cause massive amounts of tension? It doesn't have to be me to do it, there are going to be skirmishes with or without me., or else there will be nukes. This will weaken the region and some larger outside force can just divide up all the other little nation states from afar, then invade when they want to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562518 118425813,118449269,2017-03-26 21:11:18,Sup fellas - I've been getting really serious about my economic politics lately and I fall really hard into libertarian capitalism. Great to know you guys are here - I've got some books from HHH on my list for when I finish Wealth of Nations,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490562678 118425813,118449280,2017-03-26 21:11:23,">>118447763 Ukraine doesn't have nukes, though, unless they have some in secret... but I doubt it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562683 118425813,118449442,2017-03-26 21:12:54,">>118431628 But commies aren't people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562774 118425813,118449546,2017-03-26 21:13:40,">>118449269 >Wealth of Nations How far in? I got 130 in before I jumped to HHH, was too excited to read his stuff to wait till I finished wealth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562820 118425813,118449568,2017-03-26 21:13:49,">>118449280 >they've already denuclearized I thought they hadn't gotten rid of all their ICBM's yet?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562829 118425813,118449864,2017-03-26 21:16:16,">>118449269 >>118449568 man you guys have a weird reading list... Going straight from adam smith to hoppe? That's kinda plunging into the deep end... I'd really recommend fitting in Bastiat somewhere whatever you end up doing.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490562976 118425813,118449868,2017-03-26 21:16:22,">>118448977 >and yes you are kicking out major portions of the US populution into many different areas very suddenly. how so? they're simply removing HUD",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490562982 118425813,118449869,2017-03-26 21:16:22,10/10 thread.,,Anonymous,1481404084630.jpg,Xt3YufTeiJxyAbsVLJuniQ==,IS,,1490562982 118425813,118449895,2017-03-26 21:16:39,">>118449546 Literally just started actually, I'm kind of all over the place with my reading lately. Shouldn't take me too long to read, buying a couple kindle versions of HHH after I'm done so I can jump straight in",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490562999 118425813,118449941,2017-03-26 21:17:02,">>118449864 Thanks man I'll keep that in mind",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490563022 118425813,118450077,2017-03-26 21:18:16,">>118449895 Always check mises.org, GL bro.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490563096 118425813,118450121,2017-03-26 21:18:31,">>118448977 Libertarians will secede. Cucks wanting a government will keep their government. Everyone fucks off and does their own thing. If some retarded group of statists tries to invade why the hell would a voluntarist group back them up. They get thrown to the wolves. >massive amounts of tension If retards are anxious to invade other people then yea. But if people keep to their own there's no reason we can't resolve things peacefully. We can do it under democracy and we can do it under ancap. >then invade when they want to Why are you still trying to justify people risking nuclear war? If they a large group invades, good. Fuck this species then. Risking annihilation just to steal land.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490563111 118425813,118450178,2017-03-26 21:19:07,"I have a few question if anyone is willing to indulge me. First up, what is the difference between Libertarianism and AnCap?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1490563147 118425813,118450267,2017-03-26 21:19:55,">>118449868 >he thinks the right to descriminate is just removing HUD No,no, in anarcho capitalism this means a much different thing. People would be kicked out of neighborhoods by popular decree of the local voluntarists because muh democracy, and eventually the rise of ancapistan would come about. All though I, as a fascist, would probably remove HUD as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490563195 118425813,118450385,2017-03-26 21:20:54,">>118450077 Well into LvM already :) just finished Anti-Capitalistic Mentality - actually got into him through Ayn Rand.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490563254 118425813,118450750,2017-03-26 21:24:11,">>118450178 Libertarianism is a collective group of ideas with the common denominator of upholding individual rights, and that those rights cannot be infringed upon by government (to whatever degree, depending on how libertarian you are). AnCap falls under this group, and basically encompasses a non-governmental system based purely on private ownership, and a free market that's purely fueled by the people.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490563451 118425813,118450866,2017-03-26 21:25:17,">>118450121 >Fuck this species then. Risking annihilation just to steal land. No, that is one reason of many people invade others. Religious tensions would come about as well as economic tensions, racial tensions of course, plus the people who keep their cuck state will be wanting war after awhile. >if people keep to their own Not how morality works in the real world. People aren't peaceful, people aren't animals, people are a mix of the two and from secession people will become more like animals again. Especially the blacks who will become disenfranchised and will loot the shit out of everything. Imagine what the black community would do if a bunch of white libertarians in our country shot them and called them niggers. It would be a full on race war. Maybe that doesn't matter for Slovenia where you are a homogeneous people, but here that would mean something completely different.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490563517 118425813,118450960,2017-03-26 21:26:05,">>118450077 Naw, I mean the free books on there, including HHH >>118449864 I went Atlas shrugged (Got bored after couple dozen pages, dropped it and haven't attempted since) Econ in one lesson road to serfdom anatomy of the state the law Started wealth of nations What has government done to our money (audio) meltdown (audio) stopped wealth of nations at page 130 after hearing about HHH 3/4 through EEPP, next is democracy, than going to finish wealth, then either attempt human action or grab ethics of liberty or man economy and state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490563565 118425813,118451024,2017-03-26 21:26:40,">>118450385 shit, meant to quote >>118450960",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490563600 118425813,118451426,2017-03-26 21:30:15,">>118450866 >from secession people will become more like animals again Well back to jerking off to Hobbes you go. >full on race war Isn't that like your dream come true?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490563815 118425813,118451675,2017-03-26 21:32:22,">>118451426 >jerking off to Hobbes Before you cry no argument, I think the idea of taming animals by putting scumbag politicians in charge is ridiculous. If anything this makes shit worse.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490563942 118425813,118451891,2017-03-26 21:34:06,">>118451426 >Hobbes Plato, Macchievelli, de Maistre, Carlyle, Jung... people are not all rational beings. Sorry if that plain fact bothers you i know you ancaps like to project yourself onto everyone in existence but the fact is they are not you. >race war >dream come true No, not even the nazis were involved in much of a race war besides trying to expel the jews from the country. There were black, arab, indian, and asian nazis as well. It was more about destroying communism and establishing a Lebensraum for Germans. A race war in the US would be disasterous",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490564046 118425813,118451968,2017-03-26 21:34:45,">>118449568 No, officially they got rid of all their nukes in the early 90s.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490564085 118425813,118452055,2017-03-26 21:35:29,">>118451675 >scumbag politicians Fascism is about moral character, degenerates are not tolerated and it being a populist movement means that everyone else is meant to change their moral character naturally, or if they refuse, then by force. Force is always necessary, sociopaths don't care about morality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490564129 118425813,118452114,2017-03-26 21:35:53,">>118451968 I thought they were still dismantling them though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490564153 118425813,118452319,2017-03-26 21:37:22,">>118451891 >all rational beings I never said they were. But why the fuck would they as a minority try to invade and risk nuclear holocaust and they're just fine under a government that forces them to live a certain way? Fucking stupid.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490564242 118425813,118452499,2017-03-26 21:38:47,">>118452319 >as a minority They are not a minority, ""rational"" is subject >inb4 relativism No people just have different ideas of what ought to be universal and will die on a hill for said beliefs. When sprung into war we become irrational, however. Ever seen the massacres of civilians from guys in Vietnam? War does that to people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490564327 118546234,118546234,2017-03-27 14:59:59,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Lysander Spooner.jpg,le2J+HFSWdZexraxwu1eXQ==,ES,,1490626799 118546234,118546314,2017-03-27 15:00:36,">>118546234 V is for victory",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490626836 118546234,118546338,2017-03-27 15:00:47,">>118546234 PHYSICAL REMOVAL",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490626847 118546234,118546498,2017-03-27 15:02:06,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,snekgirl2.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,ES,,1490626926 118546234,118546578,2017-03-27 15:02:52,,,Anonymous,agorism blackmarket.jpg,GmalMlcv2ZToWjpBLUmZyA==,ES,,1490626972 118546234,118547116,2017-03-27 15:06:51,">>118546234 based list ! thanks op.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490627211 118546234,118547466,2017-03-27 15:09:42,"For being basically a 20 pages doc with proper formatting and font and without the prolonged citations, Anatomy is a hell of an essay. Rothbard really had it going",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490627382 118546234,118548180,2017-03-27 15:15:44,">>118547466 Anatomy really has changed so many people's lives. My first contact with its ideas was from this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBCiMxuX9_g Tom Woods is really a great spokesman. He's a decent libertarian unlike the political prostitute of Molyneux.",,Anonymous,capt24.jpg,k6frbUa4zbKWBzjpmpMdPw==,ES,,1490627744 118546234,118548460,2017-03-27 15:18:03,">>118546234 Libertarian Right? That assumes there is a left, and that's dumb. Left libertarian is not libertarianism, just like how anarchism was hjiacked by antifa or fascism is now right wing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490627883 118546234,118548522,2017-03-27 15:18:29,"Also today I watched the speech Hoppe gave in Munich last year (Geld, Staat und Internationale Politik) - in German ^.^ I really really like to listen to him. For a German ""philosophic economist"" so to speak he's incredibly non-repetitive. Absolutely enjoyable. His comment about America being a hegemonial state and Europe (in particular Germany) being nothing but a ""vassal state"" absolutely hit the mark, too. Most interesting thing was when he talked about how a ""global paper currency"" (as in: one currency for the globe) would not be beneficial in any sense but just drive inflation up the wall, basically limitless. Unironically got me thinking. >>118548180 Yeah absolutely. Molyneux is a faggot desu. He's just turning with the wind and he's annoying af. Also I hate preachy imposter motherfuckers that brag with nonachievements",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490627909 118546234,118549576,2017-03-27 15:27:51,">>118548460 Libertarian ""right"" is a concept created here to disassociate libertarianism with any kind of socialism. (aka liberalism in America) You could argue that ""left"" libertarians would be people than in case of statelesness would organize in a communal property environment, whereas ""right"" libertarians would go for communities and cities based in private property. The ""libertarian"" part is an allusion at how these things, either communal or private property would be enforced privately. That's one of the main perks of ancapism and libertarianism in general, permits people live however they want, even if they are filthy commies. As long as they don't violate property rights they can be as communistic and secluded from civilization as they want.",,Anonymous,political test2.jpg,fxxGuFekxM2OaMjGoBo3nA==,ES,,1490628471 118546234,118549870,2017-03-27 15:30:29,"bump daily reminder that nazis and libertarians work together for the greater good",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490628629 118546234,118549995,2017-03-27 15:31:33,">>118549870 bullshit and fucking moronic",,Anonymous,libertarians & neetsocs.png,NZxOU83XoQJnWKJz+ddIwg==,ES,,1490628693 118546234,118550020,2017-03-27 15:31:48,">>118549576 I'm aware of what it is. I'm stating that it's placating and a copout. Don't move the terminology, educate people that they are hypocrites. Left libertarian by definition is an oxymoron, and is a result of cognitive dissonance of the failure to reconciliate that statism and liberty are incompatible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490628708 118546234,118550119,2017-03-27 15:32:32,">>118549870 >nazis and libertarians work together >shun 420 blaze it crowd >invite Nazis",,Anonymous,1477514666324.jpg,ytTXsqRMW053TYPumHgZRw==,SI,,1490628752 118546234,118550494,2017-03-27 15:35:20,">>118549870 Nah, libertarians and AnCaps can work together, you'll have to go for your autistic cousin international socialism or your mongoloid brother NazBol.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490628920 118546234,118550968,2017-03-27 15:38:59,">>118549995 >>118550494 I actually think a two party system of nationalist and libertarian would be the strongest system. Libertarian is weak against subversion, having a nationalist party to balance that out removes the Achilles heel",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490629139 118546234,118551110,2017-03-27 15:39:57,Daily Reminder that lolbertarians are no borders civic nationalists by definition and are bound to be overrun by hostile people who don't believe in political fairy tales.,,Anonymous,1490143909159.jpg,57TooG24Cnkn+l1VPb2lfA==,US,,1490629197 118546234,118551207,2017-03-27 15:40:43,">>118550255 >>118550255",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490629243 118546234,118551986,2017-03-27 15:46:52,">>118551207 >le ebin jooz",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490629612 118546234,118552056,2017-03-27 15:47:28,">>118546498 Post more cute sneks",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490629648 118546234,118552194,2017-03-27 15:48:43,>>118551110,,Anonymous,Commie Drop The Game.png,16lXUiJDa1n0cALqemu3nw==,SE,,1490629723 118546234,118552300,2017-03-27 15:49:38,">>118551110 >what are private property borders?",,Anonymous,1488661040588.jpg,LuqTAYayBFsDCSDgwkqyxw==,DE,,1490629778 118546234,118552558,2017-03-27 15:51:31,">>118551986 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490629891 118546234,118552719,2017-03-27 15:52:43,">>118550020 A year ago or so I started doing similar threads with /liberty/ instead of /lrg/ but got lazy and haven't kept up. Helicopter memes hadn't yet taken off (lol) and people were too busy sucking Trump's dick. I may do them again, but I'm too much of a lazy ass to do another pastebin. >>118550968 >Libertarian is weak against subversion Incorrect. It is authoritarianism that creates centralized points of failure. >>118552056 m-m-uh waifu",,Anonymous,snekgirl.png,7lEu6FUmgoN9hkJm2c3BFQ==,ES,,1490629963 118546234,118552931,2017-03-27 15:54:33,"Good thread, have a bump >and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. and stormweenies*",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490630073 118546234,118553001,2017-03-27 15:55:05,"Today's Ron Paul Liberty Report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYr4a2BRXfI",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490630105 118546234,118553340,2017-03-27 15:57:23,">>118552931 stormies are just race communists. Economic and political illiterate people obsessed with identity politics. >socialism works when it is white people that is enslaved! they're fucking pathetic",,Anonymous,libertarians vs neetsocs.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,ES,,1490630243 118546234,118553544,2017-03-27 15:58:39,">>118552719 >Incorrect. It is authoritarianism that creates centralized points of failure. Which part is incorrect? The achilles heel of libertarianism or the two party system? Or both? How do you keep authority uncorruptible or prevented from forming if laws and values can be subverted?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490630319 118546234,118553623,2017-03-27 15:59:15,">>118553340 >libertarianism works when its white people bread out of existance! They're fucking pathetic",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490630355 118546234,118553766,2017-03-27 16:00:21,">>118553340 This. Their >le national socialism is not marxism nonsense is ridiculous. Every collectivist is the same and deserves to fly. But the worst of all is, that the race LARPer are most of the time pan european nationalists (while being fucking burgers) and try to lecture you on European history and how race is much more of a determining factor than culture, so a white only EU would be also incredibly great.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490630421 118546234,118553780,2017-03-27 16:00:26,">>118553623 What the fuck are you even trying to say you dumb stormweenie stormfront was a mistake",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490630426 118546234,118553940,2017-03-27 16:01:36,">>118553780 Its pretty simple really",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490630496 118546234,118554127,2017-03-27 16:02:58,">>118553940 Proceed to explain to me how does libertarianism ""breed whites out of existence""?",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490630578 118546234,118554309,2017-03-27 16:04:26,">>118553940 Hoppe libertarianism =|= reddit open border libertarianism Just read a fucking book before acting like hot shit.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490630666 118546234,118554668,2017-03-27 16:07:36,">>118546234 What's wrong with Socialism if used properly? Government plays an important role in society.",,Anonymous,0 n.jpg,F3y6qCyDmVjIUsZkKgH99A==,ME,,1490630856 118546234,118555094,2017-03-27 16:10:50,">>118554668 Redistributing my property against my will is a an aggression against my natural rights and need to be punished. Government dares to call itself a representation of my interests while acting violently against me.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490631050 118546234,118555173,2017-03-27 16:11:23,">>118553544 >We need strong government control to prevent degeneracy from being spread on the media! >End with the Jew-controlled FCC censoring the media. >We need strong government regulations to prevent banker's """"greed"""" >Got cartelistic banking and later ""Too Big To Fail"" banks on corporate welfare. Corruption and subversion are features, not bugs, of political power. >>118554127 He assumes white people are somehow inferior and couldn't manage to be self-supporting without a strong government. Pretty ironic. He ignores that the reason whites ain't reproducing is because strong government LEECHES whites out of resources to feed non-whites.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490631083 118546234,118555233,2017-03-27 16:11:49,">>118554309 This dude right here got it going. No shit >>118553940 read ""Anatomy..."" first, ""Democracy..."" second and you're set. Or follow pic related >>118554668 It's only predatory and does nothing but preserve itself. There's no responsibility beyond ""terms"". Read ""Anatomy..."" by Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490631109 118546234,118555235,2017-03-27 16:11:50,">>118554668 The economy and market is cyclic. Attempting to change it is pointless and makes things worse.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490631110 118546234,118555371,2017-03-27 16:12:44,"Libertarians will never achieve what they aim for >pic related",,Anonymous,572634656.png,XVCEBF2yaxcQBy+upkcKTA==,DE,,1490631164 118546234,118556444,2017-03-27 16:20:30,">>118555173 >Corruption and subversion are features, not bugs, of political power. I don't know if I agree with this. Corruption and subversion are human features not just political. It goes beyond politics into the realm of culture. I might be misunderstanding your argument though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490631630 118546234,118556691,2017-03-27 16:22:22,">>118554309 First and foremost an actual an-cap/libertarian pacifist society will get nuked. Other nations wont play allong with your ignorant NAP whining. Second of all the myth that personal interest is always beneficial to the ""state"" is lunacy. Transferring wealth and labour to other countries does not bemefit the people. Using the resources of your country to produce consimerist garbage reducing your population to drones is also not ideal. Individualism and egoism are a cancer to society, now imagine if that is what your society is build on. Lets just ignore that both socialism and libertarianism are being pushed by jews. Seems to trigger nu-pol and randlets >inb4 fascism in socialism And ofcourse muh roads (still havent heard an actual argument)",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490631742 118546234,118557219,2017-03-27 16:26:32,">>118555371 As Hoppe put it, at the moment it's bets to preserve the ideas and when the collapse - which is inevitable - comes, then place people in the right spots that advocate the right ideas. There's no way of 0..100% change in short anyway as people are bascially reliant on the welfare state anyway. You need a gradual change .. as in gradually let the people learn and relearn their liberty and that this liberty has some inherent duties to it. >>118555233 I also forgot the pic ... but internet too slow to upload so I'll write: reading order (of Hoppes publications) according to some generous anon :: Economic Science and the Austrian Method -> From Aristocracy to Monarchy .... -> A Short History of Man -> A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism -> Democracy... -> The Provate Production of Defense -> What Must Be Done -> The Economics and Ethics of Private Property",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490631992 118546234,118557252,2017-03-27 16:26:49,">>118554668 >What's wrong with Socialism if used properly? There's the problem - it can't be used properly. No human being has the mental capability to predict (and control) the markets and will always make retarded long-term decisions. That is why you strip his control over making retarded decisions and let the market evolve itself to maximum efficiency Take state healthcare as an example. There are two things that happen with it: >1) Higher taxes to fund it >2) Elimination of the private healthcare sector Both being obviously REALLY bad, but sure, I'll explain why. First of all, the higher taxes have an overall damaging effect to the economy - it is less appealing for a business to establish operations in such a country since it's going to get taxed. The lack of businesses leads to lack of growth, which leads to less potential ""evil capitalists"" being available to be taxed, which leads to not enough tax income regardless if they're already high. That means that to maintain a constant (or improving) rate of government services, the taxes should be raising constantly (due to less and less capital available to be taxed), while never being able to drop. Would you establish a business in such a country when you can just stick with the US? Second, the private healthcare sector is eliminated and outcompeted by the state behemoth. The problem here is that the private healthcare sector achieves exactly the same thing, except that it doesn't need ever-rising taxes to exist. All the potential private hospitals that could've been built, aren't, while every other country's private sector fills the entire country with hospitals. Given enough time, your state hospitals will lag so far behind that they'll look like a Soviet hospital from the early 90s while everyone will be just normal. The problem - you won't have a single private hospital in your land. This is generally what happens under socialist states, and the more socialist they are, the more it happens.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490632009 118546234,118557744,2017-03-27 16:30:34,">>118556444 The reason you can subvert political institutions is because the decisions they take on other people are mandatory. On a free market it is ""take it or leave it"", and if the stuff there is you don't like it he'll eat it, in government it is ""take it or get shot"". Subverting private enterprise so it makes a shitty product will just make customers flock to other producers. Subverting state institutions assures people will be fucked over and there's nothing that can be done about it. By reducing the size political power and replacing it with personal sovereignty you make it harder for anything to be there to be subverted. It is easier to subvert a government that to subvert fifteen different governments. It is easier to subvert fifteen governments than it is fifty. Decentralization is the ultimate anti-subversion strategy. For example, regards charity/welfare, private charities must live up to some standards and take care of their reputation or donors will immediately leave. When it is government that is doing the charity your opinion means shit, most of the money will be wasted or spent in wrong ways (subverted) and there's nothing you'll be able to do about that.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490632234 118546234,118558128,2017-03-27 16:33:45,">>118556444 You're right, they're human features. But here's the twist: Who's enforcing those ? It's the highly corrupt governments implementing police states to make sure they (e.g. the state) survive throughout all possible shit. And not only that, they enforce their decisions and pointless laws via illegitimate violence. That includes ""democrats"" and commies as well as fascists etc., because the ruling caste is replaceable and, thus, holds no responsibility beyond short term goals. And since basically nothing regulates the state but his own organs (i.e. supreme court) there's also no way to escape this corruption in first place except when you can utilize crises or collapses or systems or particular branches of the system. At least that's how I see it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490632425 118546234,118558517,2017-03-27 16:36:50,">>118558128 *of systems [...]",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490632610 118546234,118559500,2017-03-27 16:44:37,Daily reminder that /pol/ is just a bunch of libertarian individualist role playing as Nazi's to piss of the ((((((liberals)))))),,Anonymous,,,US,,1490633077 118546234,118560316,2017-03-27 16:51:14,"Too much fucking text. Post menes. :DDD",,Anonymous,stirner2.png,shPUmCJBK4ZdCm1FkuZQOw==,ES,,1490633474 118546234,118560333,2017-03-27 16:51:24,">>118557744 >Decentralization is the ultimate anti-subversion strategy. I hadn't thought of it in terms of decentralization. Thank you for that. I'm still skeptical about that though. The main issue is that while the market lives forever, humans don't. We forget our values and ideas through generations, or we simply get bored. How do you solidify the decentralized nature? > Who's enforcing those? It's the highly corrupt governments implementing police states > there's also no way to escape this corruption in first place Are you saying there's no solution and it's inevitable? Surely there must be. Although, we do know mankind's strongest motivator is to reproduce and pass down our genes. Everything else is a way to improve success of that (corruption, greed, power, purpose, etc), and it gets in the way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490633484 118546234,118560379,2017-03-27 16:51:50,">>118559500 You will probably find that the wealthy /pol/ users who have jobs are walking AnCap memes while the NEETs who live off their families are NatSocs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490633510 118546234,118560495,2017-03-27 16:52:47,">>118560316 KEK MAYMAYS AM I RIGHT",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490633567 118546234,118560497,2017-03-27 16:52:51,">>118560333 >>118558128 forgot ref",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490633571 118546234,118560544,2017-03-27 16:53:14,">>118560316 beddy sboogy :DDDD",,Anonymous,1490403564772.jpg,tmVbNjSJLsDOl0NFp/2PLA==,DE,,1490633594 118546234,118560721,2017-03-27 16:54:45,">>118546234 >Lysander Spooner >Libertarian right The guy was a left-libertarian and was hell bent on destroying what you guys call capitalism. He was even a member of the first socialist international, alongside Marx and Engels.",,Anonymous,13124234234.jpg,Ok1oJPhtmCCCmd/u+41d+w==,GB,,1490633685 118546234,118561437,2017-03-27 16:59:16,">>118560333 The founding fathers of the US wrote a constitution that put every conceivable block in the way of the expansion of state power (2nd and 10th amendments, secession rights) because they knew political power is inherently corrupt. >>118560379 >tfw ran out of TOW missiles and mortar shells and the gypsy slums at 15km from my Mc Mansion are still populated. >tfw subsidizing heroin trade there as a covert means of a genocide >all that while enjoying life with my harem of lolis sunbathing in a private beach near the Mediterranean coast",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490633956 118546234,118561628,2017-03-27 17:01:02,">>118557252 Does the youth in Bulgaria respect or embrace socialism? Over here is a fucking mess. More than 75% of people under 25 support a socialist party, and everyone around me are literally commies.",,Anonymous,,,MK,,1490634062 118546234,118561727,2017-03-27 17:01:50,">>118560333 What I mean is that abolishing the state/government is nothing achievable within a timeframe of, say, some years. For several reasons such as that people are kept in the mindest of ""welfare reliance"" or the self-preservation of the state itself and it's violence. That also means that in first place (what I mean is ... ""VERY SHORT TERM"" ... sorry if I might've spelled that wrong as non-native speaker) there is no solution. Education, implementation of more and more libertarian principles into the state governance - over temporary minarchism, ultimately leading to the ancap society - needs time.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490634110 118546234,118561786,2017-03-27 17:02:21,"to get right libertarianism, all you need is hoppe, and to remember one simple thing: voluntary association is meaningless without voluntary separation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490634141 118546234,118561890,2017-03-27 17:03:18,">>118561628 >More than 75% of people under 25 support a socialist party, and everyone around me are literally commies It's literally the opposite - none of the under 25 support the socialists, while everyone above 50 supports them because they promise huge pensions (of course, at the cost of everyone else, like higher taxes and getting into a huge debt). Is the socialist party in Macedonia a fuckbuddy of Putin? Because ours is that as well",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490634198 118546234,118561915,2017-03-27 17:03:27,">>118546234 Spainbro add the other two songs we've made to the OP from now on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs",,Anonymous,hoppewave 2.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,PT,,1490634207 118546234,118562379,2017-03-27 17:07:49,">>118561915 I don't own the pastebin or anything, I just open the threads from time to time. If you make a new pastebin that includes them I'll use it. Though if you're gonna make a new pastebin I would consider it to be /liberty/ instead of /lrg/ because of the objections of: >>118548460 >>118550020 dunno man.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490634469 118546234,118562410,2017-03-27 17:08:12,">>118548522 >hating papa moly meme Low test liberautists please go",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490634492 118546234,118562663,2017-03-27 17:10:23,">>118561890 No actually ours is getting cucked by the EU and the squip kebabs. They suggested a squip head of Parliament today. Annex us pls",,Anonymous,,,MK,,1490634623 118546234,118562713,2017-03-27 17:10:46,">>118562379 I also just copy what people usually post, and then add the videos before posting the thread. I don't know how to edit the pastebin but if you go to the archives you just copy and paste from there, since those already have the videos. Also, I support /liberty/ general",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490634646 118546234,118563020,2017-03-27 17:13:40,">>118549576 May someone explain these two blue/black balls at the bottom to me. I know there is some connection to Stirner and all the ""spook"" stuff, which, as a matter of fact, I don't really get either.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490634820 118546234,118563258,2017-03-27 17:15:47,">>118549870 No. We want prosperity, they want freedom. We won 't work with lolspergtarians because even if their pipe dream pays off, it's a path towards decadence and total corruption. Helicopters are about the only thing we agree on.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490634947 118546234,118563378,2017-03-27 17:16:42,">>118562713 Well, let's make a new pastebin. I would make an emphasis in starter books, specially shorter ones like Anatomy or Econ in One Lesson. >>118563020 Anarcho/Nihilism and Anarcho/Individualism. It's related to Stirner's philosophy, though in all honesty its practical application would be the same as agorism or anarcho capitalism. I also think that ancapism and agorism is pretty much the same. Agorism is the most practical stategy for a private law society to happen.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490635002 118546234,118563502,2017-03-27 17:17:41,">>118562410 >self-proclaimed intellectual If I wish to educate, I'll rely on people that have done something in their life and that have some actual reputation beyond >le internetz videos ;DDDDDDDDDDDD",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490635061 118546234,118563576,2017-03-27 17:18:18,">>118562663 That's weird, ours is strongly anti-EU. Oh right, that's because it's the literal colonial party of Russia http://www.dnes.bg/politika/2017/02/03/ako-specheli-vota-bsp-iska-ot-es-otmiana-na-sankciite-sreshtu-rusiia.330918 The shit that happens in Bulgaria is a proof that the eternal Russian actually DOES influence elections like the US intelligence services claim, and who knows, it might as well extend to the anti-refugee incitement propaganda and the rise of specifically anti-EU parties (and not anti-refugee pro-EU ones). At least he's not openly meeting with those parties because damn, imagine if he did that.. Surely the supporters of such parties would be able to see behind the blatant propaganda then, right? haha",,Anonymous,170324105546-01-le-pen-putin-meet-0324-full-169.jpg,LWSrXEgiJzX1QutLrEMUMQ==,BG,,1490635098 118546234,118563663,2017-03-27 17:18:57,">>118552300 Fucking nothing when the new American caliphate turns up in which the state budget is the military budget, and then your mates don't turn up to help you because they could profit from selling the people raping you weaponry and supplies.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490635137 118546234,118563713,2017-03-27 17:19:28,"'Anarcho'-capitalism is an oxymoron and is not a form of anarchism. Capitalism, private property, and social hierarchy are incompatible with anarchist thought. This part of the anarchist faq explains in detail why ancaps are not anarchist. http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF",,Anonymous,vOo1QXj.jpg,Pxc0lf4ByVT57OkoFJD9Rg==,GB,,1490635168 118546234,118563795,2017-03-27 17:20:12,">>118561915 wassap bro, I'll add it to the pastebin",,Anonymous,Classic2.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1490635212 118546234,118563826,2017-03-27 17:20:24,">>118563663 Anarcho capitalism has to be global, until then transitional minimal governments have to be established.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490635224 118546234,118563828,2017-03-27 17:20:25,">>118553340 Cute. A very nuanced opinion you have of natsoc there.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490635225 118546234,118564061,2017-03-27 17:22:27,">>118546234 I'm loving these threads, I'm having a blast with the recommended reading and bursting my sides with the assblasted cuckmmunists and triggered fagsists. Please keep up the good work papá España. I'll give you my free ride ticket. I was savng it up for when I encounter an annoying commie but you might give it better use.",,Anonymous,Uncle-Augusto's-free-helicopter-ride.png,PxgxErsjZSjUBtEXss2plw==,CR,,1490635347 118546234,118564088,2017-03-27 17:22:44,">>118553766 Again more brilliant nuance from the radical freedom fighter who knows nothing about Marx or natsoc, not understanding that to two are completely incompatible.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490635364 118546234,118564110,2017-03-27 17:22:54,">>118563826 >when you OD on ayb rand You people have really gone of the deep end",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490635374 118546234,118564212,2017-03-27 17:23:56,">>118562713 >>118563795 Also you guys could use this url ( http://93.174.95.27/ ) to get all your books. Maybe it could be added to the pastebin.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490635436 118546234,118564258,2017-03-27 17:24:22,">>118563378 Indeed, perhaps a progression in terms of complexity. I propose: 1. The Law by Frederic Bastiat 2. Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazzlit 3. Anatomy of the State by Murray Rothbard 4. A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline by Hans-Hermann Hoppe 5. For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard 6. The Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard 7. Democracy—The God That Failed by HHH 8. The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by HHH 9. Man, Economy, and State with Power & Market by Murray Rothbard And I guess that's it. You've achieved the end game of red pill and enlightenment. Then you move on to strategic books (What Must Be Done, Reactionary Liberty, The Private Production of Defense, etc.)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490635462 118546234,118564290,2017-03-27 17:24:35,">>118564088 Redistribution is a core principle of both ideologies. Saying that only including people of a certain race changes the whole ideology is moronic.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490635475 118546234,118564331,2017-03-27 17:24:56,">>118564212 Thanks for posting that website again, I was looking for it!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490635496 118546234,118564384,2017-03-27 17:25:20,">>118563826 Global aye? This is exactly why in a chaotic world, it's just as utopian as communism. You are never going to have the perfect system by rigidly adhering to one feel good ideology.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490635520 118546234,118564490,2017-03-27 17:26:30,10/10 bread,,Anonymous,,,IS,,1490635590 118546234,118564572,2017-03-27 17:27:21,">>118564384 Who said it is chaotic? Anarcho capitalism advocates the formation of microstates, those are voluntarily formed and thus not violating the NAP. A world of a thousand Luxembourgs.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490635641 118546234,118564655,2017-03-27 17:28:16,"Strasserist here, tell me why I should not step on snek.",,Anonymous,5Sie6z9BnLYBdlX_HUZ7cszdv8E=.gif,8vQzO2BDw/Bj8H52poHB9g==,US,,1490635696 118546234,118564746,2017-03-27 17:29:01,">>118564572 based",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1490635741 118546234,118564748,2017-03-27 17:29:02,">>118564290 I agree that redistribution is involved in both, however it is done differently in both ideologies and for different purposes. Also, the Marxist end game is communal living with shared assets, no redistribution required. Natsoc, unlike Marxism, won't attempt to fix all of the world problems .",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490635742 118546234,118564796,2017-03-27 17:29:21,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1490635761 118546234,118564829,2017-03-27 17:29:41,">>118564655 Tell me why strasserists shouldn't be physically removed. you want to end capitalism dont you?",,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1490635781 118546234,118564840,2017-03-27 17:29:47,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1490635787 118546234,118564880,2017-03-27 17:30:09,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1490635809 118546234,118564936,2017-03-27 17:30:37,A W E S O M E,,Anonymous,awesome image.png,eb640y8BE7QVZtqFdaxdCg==,PT,,1490635837 118546234,118564973,2017-03-27 17:30:54,">>118564572 Well it is chaotic. And global commitment is a fucking pipe dream. Further, you are naive to think it would ever stay peaceful.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490635854 118546234,118565070,2017-03-27 17:31:52,">>118564655 If you only want to control the internal economy of your gated community nobody would give a shit in AnCapistan. Do as you please, you only have to accept that other people might not want to join you in your form of society.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490635912 118546234,118565099,2017-03-27 17:32:08,">>118564973 If you have the time I would recommend listening to this lecture where Hoppe explains why democracies and states in general are more prone to conflict than a free society would be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0R1cftftsY",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490635928 118546234,118565172,2017-03-27 17:32:48,">>118564829 I'm economically centrist, also why Physically remove me if I'm not violating your NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490635968 118546234,118565295,2017-03-27 17:34:03,">>118565070 Fair enough, thanks for the (you)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490636043 118546234,118565312,2017-03-27 17:34:13,">>118564973 Like I said, a transitional form of society is needed. This should help easing people into gthe idea of Anarcho Capitalism. Once they get used to it it is just a matter of splitting the nations into smaller and smaller souvereign substates. If it is done in this slow manner, people won't just turn into animals and tear each other apart. What profit would they get out of that behaviour?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490636053 118546234,118565478,2017-03-27 17:35:38,">>118557744 My making the individual supreme, other problems arise. The individual is the mist corruptible. It is the individual element in politics that causes problems. Power will always find it's way into the hands of as few people as possible. The NAP is by far the weakest way to stop it, as it relies on many people to remain uncorrupted to uphold it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490636138 118546234,118565535,2017-03-27 17:36:05,">>118548522 >global paper currency Any paper (ie. fiat) currency, global or localized, is a bad idea.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490636165 118546234,118565551,2017-03-27 17:36:17,">>118565172 >tell me why I should not step on snek. >I'm not violating your NAP what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490636177 118546234,118565606,2017-03-27 17:36:43,">>118564258 >Then you move on to strategic books An Agorist Primer, by Samuel Edward Konkin is really a great strategy and introduction to ancapism, founded on black markets and counter-economics. Another VERY IMPORTANT BOOK I always forget about is ""The Production of Security"" by Gustave de Molinari. That book is not only the first form of anarcho capitalist theory that had ever existed, it is the very first form of anarchism that was ever proposed in the modern West. It explains how the market for security would develop under non-monopolistic conditions (statelessness) and it is a huge fucking truth bomb, on par with Anatomy of the State. https://mises.org/library/production-security-0 Those two books would really make a great addition, and both of them are short. (The second one even very short) >>118563826 Nonsense. Private law societies are to spring locally and grow gradually as other people replicates their example. As a matter of fact the first forms of private law societies are already appearing, as cities with all areas (roads, parks) being private, with private policing and eventually private law/courts. Look up the example of Atlantic Station and many other startup cities. (https://fee.org/articles/how-policing-works-in-a-privatized-city/) No idea that requires to control the whole world to succeed will ever come to realization. And this is not what we expext to happen. There are more definite and realistic strategies. >>118564331 ;^)",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490636203 118546234,118565729,2017-03-27 17:37:45,">>118563502 Learn to take an argument on it's merits, not the merits of the speaker.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490636265 118546234,118565853,2017-03-27 17:38:44,">>118556691 Liechtenstein got nuked?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490636324 118546234,118565989,2017-03-27 17:39:52,">>118563826 But it will never be global. Now you guys are the ones thinking like commies. Nationalism is a redpill because a nation is attainable. Globalists should hang.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490636392 118546234,118566139,2017-03-27 17:41:12,">>118565853 yes that glorified village is the libertarian utopia",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490636472 118546234,118566161,2017-03-27 17:41:26,">>118565535 Well he argued that localized money has the functioning of restricting other regimes to push their money (e.g. print new money) without limit and, thus, limiting the inflation so that the people don't literally have to eat shit and bark to survive",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490636486 118546234,118566182,2017-03-27 17:41:32,">>118565099 I'm in uni right now but I will listen to it when I get home. I don't have high hopes for it. However I'm not a huge fan of democracy.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490636492 118546234,118566446,2017-03-27 17:43:42,">>118565989 It being global is the ideal form with the lowest risk. Also, calling Hoppe libertarianism Globalism is nonsensical, it is the polar opposite of (cultural) globalism. It favors a strong regional identity, local association, strict immigration laws (if wanted by the owner of the property) and isolationism. Being anti globalism and free trade are not mutually exclusive.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490636622 118546234,118566513,2017-03-27 17:44:17,">>118566139 Since it's a glorified village, surely it would be the work of a day to invade it and annex the land? They're completely defenseless, with no national military and a pathetic militia. Why hasn't this happened yet?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490636657 118546234,118566610,2017-03-27 17:45:03,">>118553340 Ironically, I believe ancap would help white numbers increase.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490636703 118546234,118566650,2017-03-27 17:45:24,">>118565312 This is almost word for word Marxist philosophy on building a stateless society. I'm insulted that the cunts in this thread think natsoc is Marxist when this idea is in circulation. You won't get the world to agree. Not now, not ever. And if they do agree it would be so that they could grab power and land against a billion little Luxembourgs with their coalition if a billion little Luxembourgs.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490636724 118546234,118566715,2017-03-27 17:45:55,">>118566513 Because it has allies with actual millitaries funden by the ebil gubbinmind and drafts that violate the NAP",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490636755 118546234,118566853,2017-03-27 17:47:01,">>118565729 It's easy. He's a non-reliable imposter providing nothing beyond basic shit, changing his mind whenever it seems to fit the narrative. In addition to that he's, as I wrote, a self-proclaimed intellectual. Nothing peer reviewed, no reputation amongst anything beyond that of his brainlet followers. And last but not least, he's obviously insane. He has some 1000000000000 videos ? Fine ! But that doesn't make him any more reliable than say a 5-y/o talking about santa clause. There's nothing wrong with what he does but he's a faggot per definition. And I don't make use of content produced by faggots to educate myself or recommend that anyone else's education.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490636821 118546234,118566973,2017-03-27 17:47:56,">>118566446 If you want the whole world to bow to capitalism in an unbridled form, you are a globalist, which in every respect is a pipe dream. I'm on mobile so I can't address you point by point but that's the fact as I see it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490636876 118546234,118567011,2017-03-27 17:48:13,">>118566650 >word to word Marxist philosophy on building a stateless society Jeez, I don't remember mentioning a global worker revolution, guess I wrote about that without noticing. Also, marxism (despite what it is propagating) is not stateless. It needs an entity forcing redistribution onto those who are unwilling to share their property.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490636893 118546234,118567061,2017-03-27 17:48:37,">>118566161 Ah I see, he was comparing a global unified fiat currency to the current state of competing fiat currencies. Makes sense. Has he ever written about what he expects to happen after a global monetary crisis and currency collapse? I'm curious to see what Austrians think is the likeliest outcome, nations switching to a proper gold standard, or trying to rekindle public support for a new fiat currency, or something in between.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490636917 118546234,118567144,2017-03-27 17:49:15,but who will build the roads?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490636955 118546234,118567236,2017-03-27 17:50:01,">>118566715 Why are those allies defending them, when they could just as easily invade them instead? Liechtenstein has no way to defend themselves.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490637001 118546234,118567287,2017-03-27 17:50:29,">>118566973 Globalism is the ideology of wanting to politically unite the world, just look at the EU to see it in miniature form. Isolationist voluntary formed microstates with the possibility of discriminatory immigration policies are the exact opposite of that.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490637029 118546234,118567301,2017-03-27 17:50:34,>>118567144,,Anonymous,roads.gif,KsBHSmjBjdUNBSVB3nztng==,US,,1490637034 118546234,118567340,2017-03-27 17:50:56,">>118566853 >imposter He is presenting his opinions, you fucking child. He isn't part id your group and isn't help to your standards. Criticising him in these basses isn't evaluating arguments directly on their merit, it's you bowing to cult group think.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490637056 118546234,118567380,2017-03-27 17:51:17,">>118566610 True, since it actually the reason whites aren't breeding as much is because their governments are confiscating like 40-60% of their income. Imagine that, with all that money people would actually be able to have kids almost effortlessly, instead of being such an incredible financial pain you can only afford one or two at much. With no or almost non noticeable levels of statism white people would probable be churning out 4 or 5 kids without too many problems and solving the demographic crisis within one generation.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490637077 118546234,118567409,2017-03-27 17:51:28,">>118567144 >2016+1 >still a roadcuck",,Anonymous,1489496307378.jpg,OAQjFD7aHPhJGJ0iIr8psQ==,DE,,1490637088 118546234,118567458,2017-03-27 17:51:56,">>118567301 >>118567409 well?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490637116 118546234,118567465,2017-03-27 17:51:59,">>118567236 You should ask them, im not a UN representative",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490637119 118546234,118567660,2017-03-27 17:53:33,>>118567144,,Anonymous,1.jpg,ZBlkbEzm8Ba2nO/fWdD0eQ==,CA,,1490637213 118546234,118567844,2017-03-27 17:55:06,">>118567458 Oh you were serious, I thought this has been settled so many times that noboy asks sincerly anymore. People who are in need of roads hire private enterprises who will compete against each other to get a deal. Private investors who also gain an advantage through the road (for example the road makes reaching their store easier) invest into the project.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490637306 118546234,118567907,2017-03-27 17:55:42,">>118567458 Toll roads are much higher quality and made in a much more efficient manner than publicly-funded roads. Toll roads are great for the consumer, instead of being forced to pay a middle man (government) to pay for services the conumer can go directly to the manufacturer of a good or service, in this case, roads",,Anonymous,tx-183a_nb_exit_004_04.jpg,MVQ6pV/D9X3+UTXzlBgxfA==,US,,1490637342 118546234,118567924,2017-03-27 17:55:50,">>118567144 https://fee.org/articles/the-private-road-to-freedom/",,REPLYING TO BAIT,61b4610cf5341e74707be506e50d9a7edf25ecb29d22cde7d1da970300783dcd.jpg,hqmKFGKc68/PEtv2f4t93w==,ES,,1490637350 118546234,118567930,2017-03-27 17:55:51,">>118567061 I heard that in his speech from 2016 in Munich. I fear, I don't actually know if he explicitely wrote on that topic. I couldn't recite what he said exactly, too. But he definitely talked about something involving precious metals - in one way or another. For more I'd have to rewatch and make a note or two",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490637351 118546234,118567967,2017-03-27 17:56:08,">>118567465 So, you are certain that a defenseless ancap society will be nuked/invaded and everyone in it enslaved, but you don't know why an existing defenseless nation is perfectly safe and everyone around them respects their sovereignty I'd suggest you do some thinking on this before you use that line of reasoning to attack ancapism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490637368 118546234,118568014,2017-03-27 17:56:33,">>118546234 >LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL >Spanish flag OP >Same as COMMIE GENERAL Activates almonds.",,Anonymous,controlled_opposition.jpg,Atxnk7g744CwcWdTKQxTig==,US,,1490637393 118546234,118568184,2017-03-27 17:57:56,">>118567844 So, you're ok with putting something as essential as a road in the hands of private corporations? What would stop them from suddenly jacking up the prices?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490637476 118546234,118568266,2017-03-27 17:58:38,">>118567011 Look mate , the mechanism you describe is revolutionary in a different sense, but revolutionary all the same. Don't play semantics with me because unlike you I've read Marx. As Marxism requiring a state to maintain, they make the same argument as you! They have there communes just like you have your Luxembourgs! Every argument you make for or against you system or maxims is interchangeable. I honestly would be surprised if this Hoppe guy copied this method from Marx, hoping that Marx was correct about the inevitability if communism, using this ideology to underhandedly push Marxism while improving the means of production and prefabricating communes. I've got to go, but if you make a thread about this later I'd love to continue this conversation m. I'll read you counter argument now but I won!t be replying.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490637518 118546234,118568290,2017-03-27 17:58:50,">>118568014 Rothbard was labeled an antisemite, because he dared to point out that Jews were heavily overrepresented in leftist circles and were almost always involved in pushing leftist agendas.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490637530 118546234,118568307,2017-03-27 17:59:02,">>118568014 Yeah, my country is full of commies. So what? Interesting conspiracy theory f a m.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490637542 118546234,118568325,2017-03-27 17:59:14,">>118567340 >pretending to be atheist >hey christians aint that bad >wait no christians are shit >hey look at this video i made just to bore you >pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease fund me breh my opinions are so valuable Also he's not only presenting his opinions. He attacks people for having other opinions. That's violation of the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490637554 118546234,118568364,2017-03-27 17:59:38,">>118568184 Competition, if they'd do that somebody else could use the opportunity and get all their customers by offering lower prices, since if there is profit to be made, somebody always will try to make it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490637578 118546234,118568433,2017-03-27 18:00:13,">>118567967 I just explained it to you. Did the evil goverment not teach you reading- comprehension?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490637613 118546234,118568465,2017-03-27 18:00:31,">>118567144 think outside your bubble a little: why are roads the most efficient transportation method? why do we use cars? why do we need roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490637631 118546234,118568506,2017-03-27 18:00:54,">>118568184 What's stopping auto manufacturers from jacking up their prices? Should the automotive industry be nationalized?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490637654 118546234,118568650,2017-03-27 18:02:06,">>118568266 The thing is, if they wouldn't demand that everybody submits to their collectivist default, I'd be fine with it. You see, in Anarcho Capitalism communist societies, as long as they stay among themselves, can exist, while in a theoretical AnCom society only AnCom could exist. That'S the big difference, voluntaryism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490637726 118546234,118568674,2017-03-27 18:02:18,">>118568433 You just admitted you don't know the answer. Keep trying though, maybe you'll get it eventually.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490637738 118546234,118568817,2017-03-27 18:03:30,">>118568364 >if they'd do that somebody else could use the opportunity and get all their customers by offering lower prices, And what if there's no space left to do so? (which would obviously happen in a city/large town) >>118568506 It's a little different leaf, a car does not take up massive amounts of space like a road. You can't just replace it so easily.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490637810 118546234,118568888,2017-03-27 18:04:12,">>118568650 >as long as they stay among themselves Of course, we all know they won't, because communism mandates violent revolution against capitalist systems. Hence why it is morally acceptable to remove communists from society, just like any other criminal who threatens to kill you.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490637852 118546234,118568891,2017-03-27 18:04:12,Thoughts on Anticom?,,Anonymous,pepemoney.png,pqi+sUGV9QprvB/GEeMozw==,US,,1490637852 118546234,118569020,2017-03-27 18:05:18,">>118568891 The best anticom policy is ostracism. They need more society than society needs them. Ostracism, also known as physical removal.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490637918 118546234,118569099,2017-03-27 18:05:55,">>118569020 so to speak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490637955 118546234,118569236,2017-03-27 18:07:04,">>118568674 Its a glorified village with no strategic value. Crimea does have strategic value and it got taken, maybe thats a better example. Also your smugness is completly undeserved",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490638024 118546234,118569243,2017-03-27 18:07:06,">>118568817 You think building an all new car assembly plant from scratch is an easy thing? Answer the question, why aren't car manufacturers jacking up their prices?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490638026 118546234,118569267,2017-03-27 18:07:21,">>118568888 Checked, and yeah, 99% of commies are ideological imperialists, but unlike them I won't prejudice, if they want to have a hippie commune and be blazed 24/7 while staying out of everybody else's business, they can love themselves to death for all that I care.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490638041 118546234,118569377,2017-03-27 18:08:17,"Dang time to work, keep up with the ancap threads gents!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490638097 118546234,118569426,2017-03-27 18:08:45,">>118569267 >imblyign that a hippie 420 blaze it lifestyle could be sustained forever",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490638125 118546234,118569439,2017-03-27 18:08:52,">>118569243 >You think building blah blah blah no >why aren't car manufacturers jacking up their prices? Competition of course, but do you just expect a new company to spring up and build a road next to the other one?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490638132 118546234,118569528,2017-03-27 18:09:30,">>118569236 >No strategic value It's literally free land for the taking, in land-starved Europe. When you see a 10 Euro bill on the sidewalk, do you pass it by because it has no strategic value? No, you pick it up since you're already there and it takes 2 seconds. Why isn't anyone doing it to Liechtenstein?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490638170 118546234,118569568,2017-03-27 18:09:56,">>118565478 When there is not a state subsidizing irresponsible behavior people pay the full costs of their actions and therefore good behavior tends to be more prevalent. Also known as social darwinism.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490638196 118546234,118569655,2017-03-27 18:10:44,">>118569528 Why do you ignore my example?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490638244 118546234,118569875,2017-03-27 18:12:31,">>118569426 That's why I added ""to death"". Nobody is obliged to stop them from killing themselves. But on a serious note, nothing wrong with people who want a communitarian system in AnCapistan, their community their decision, though it certainly wouldn't be my choice.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490638351 118546234,118570076,2017-03-27 18:14:08,">>118568014 >Jews want to enslave you >And also to free yourself btw Fucking jews, man.",,Anonymous,1462884121359.png,tF40TwsqBmZeLFTT3ZOTUQ==,CR,,1490638448 118546234,118570302,2017-03-27 18:16:12,">>118569875 Yes, absolutely. I just wanted to point out that any ""lazy"" lifestyle ... to put it nicely ... will not be self-sustained - most likely - and you'll likely be able to claim their property in some 20 or 30 years, because there will be noone left anymore lel",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490638572 118546234,118570333,2017-03-27 18:16:25,">>118569439 If there is such overwhelming demand for transport in that area, but the price of the supply artificially rises so high that most of the demand cannot be satisfied, several things will happen. First, you will see people just not giving a fuck and driving through the road illegally. If the owner wants to prevent this while maintaining his high prices, he will have to spend increasing amounts of his ever-dwindling revenue on security. Secondly, people will simply go around, even if it adds time to their journey. This will, of course, put more money in the pocket of the competition. Thirdly, new competitors will be able to secure investment to buy property and build quick and rough roads to immediately satisfy the massive demand, fucking the original business owner over even more. As with any industry, an artificial spike in prices above equilibrium is detrimental to the business. That's why they will be disincentivized from doing it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490638585 118546234,118570356,2017-03-27 18:16:36,">>118548180 Boiiiiiiii >get angry when some ancaps actually gets shit done with a movement much more effective than academic hobby libertarians >""Molymeme is a political prostitute!!!"" I think ""Pimp"" is the word you're looking for >Recognises the minuscule change for freedom Trump might make (which he did make) >defends Trump when MSM lies about him >gets hate from result-hating high-IQ-signalling high horse anarchists/libertarians >YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A FUCKING NORMIE MOLYMEME!!!1! BTFO! lel aren't we supposed to be the only ones with the key to the salvation of the world? I guess some of us have grown slightly arrogant from hording it. where's the argument? argument... argume... argu... arg... a... mine is: if ancaps want anything done, they need to be result oriented. we have to make compromises in the now to win in the long run. expecting a sudden perfect hardline change for ancapistan worldwide is autistic at best.",,Anonymous,TopKekBoi.jpg,4kP6HAQBPAGA9aUdSYtIag==,DK,,1490638596 118546234,118570567,2017-03-27 18:18:19,">>118570302 >their property Anon, it was my property already, I just hadn't acquired it yet.",,Anonymous,1489742503686.gif,WNxy2Zk0Vy6Byh0ZabNyKw==,DE,,1490638699 118546234,118570794,2017-03-27 18:19:59,">>118568307 >my country is full of commies. So what? So there are few Spaniards on this board, and they're all conspicuously divide and conquer shills. Noggin joggin. >>118568290 >Rothbard was labeled an antisemite So was Marx and Chomsky. Jews like to labels themselves anti-semites for street cred among the goyim. Basic divide and conquer tactic. >>118570076 >Jews want to destroy your civilization >Jews come at you from both angles Almonds.",,Anonymous,maurice_samuels.jpg,sr9lFH0NPSJr9xWJawiSkw==,US,,1490638799 118546234,118570821,2017-03-27 18:20:12,">>118569655 Your example is a piece of land that was historically contentious, to the point where both sides held some meritorious claim to it. It was confounded by the fact that it was predominantly an insurgency wherein a significant portion of the fighters were local residents exercising their right to sovereignty. And thirdly, if you want to call it an inter-state conflict, then I fail to see what compelling argument that makes for statism, since the Ukrainian government could not successfully defend its own territory against foreign aggression. Now address my question.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490638812 118546234,118570903,2017-03-27 18:21:02,">>118570333 >If the owner wants to prevent this while maintaining his high prices, he will have to spend increasing amounts of his ever-dwindling revenue on security. Wow, sure sounds like a fun society >Secondly, people will simply go around Have you ever even been to a city? 9/10 times there's no space you fucking idiot. >build quick and rough roads to immediately satisfy the massive demand in a city....l m a o I can see how this might work in the sticks though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490638862 118546234,118571017,2017-03-27 18:21:55,">>118569439 >build a road next to the other one Well there other roads or railways. Transporters take detours all the time. For example Slovenian roads are expensive so companies go around rather than through. On the other hand Croatia leased its roads and the prices are normal but the quality is great. They had some highway built by an American company and it's pretty fucking great. The company even planted treas along side the road. Meanwhile our highways are complete trash and constantly under repair. Complete waste of money. Also if some company decides to screw with its customers who is gonna hire them in the future?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490638915 118546234,118571336,2017-03-27 18:24:45,">>118571017 >who is gonna hire them in the future? Doesn't really matter if they have a monopoly on the land",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490639085 118546234,118571379,2017-03-27 18:25:06,">>118570821 I'm too lazy to read what you guys are arguing about... but on liechtenstein.. I fucking hate linking to reddit but this might be interesting. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/5ktur6/why_is_liechtenstein/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490639106 118546234,118571598,2017-03-27 18:27:03,">>118570903 >in a city....l m a o If there is a monopoly on all the roads in the city, and the owner raises the prices such that few people can afford to use them, you will very quickly no longer have a city and those roads will become worthless. Unless the goal of the business is to utterly destroy their property values and see their share prices go to zero, they will not do this.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490639223 118546234,118571737,2017-03-27 18:28:07,">>118570903 >in a city You'll likely have local control over these roads and just contract the people who pave highways. I really don't see why this is such an issue. >Doesn't really matter if they have a monopoly on the land So they just stop growing and start being cunts? That's not how it works. The US had a somewhat free market in railways and there was never an issue with things like or monopolies.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490639287 118546234,118571755,2017-03-27 18:28:21,">>118570821 Reputation damage is not worth it in exchange for A LITTERAL FUCKING VILLAGE YOU VILE LEAF SUBHUMAN. >Your example is a piece of land that was historically contentious, to the point where both sides held some meritorious claim to it. So? It was ukrainian clay. Gifted by the ruskis. No idea what you are trying to say >It was confounded by the fact that it was predominantly an insurgency wherein a significant portion of the fighters were local residents exercising their right to sovereignty. It got occupied by russian troops >And thirdly, if you want to call it an inter-state conflict, then I fail to see what compelling argument that makes for statism, since the Ukrainian government could not successfully defend its own territory against foreign aggression Hohols are weak. Libertarian state would be even weaker. Stop contradicting yourself",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490639301 118546234,118572530,2017-03-27 18:34:51,">>118571755 >Reputation damage is not worth it in exchange for A LITTERAL FUCKING VILLAGE And finally we are getting somewhere. Why would there be damage to Swiss or Austrian reputation if they invaded Liechtenstein, and with whom would their reputation be damaged? >Libertarian state would be even weaker Did I ever make the claim that a libertarian state could exist anywhere on the planet?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490639691 118546234,118572878,2017-03-27 18:37:42,">>118572530 >could exist anywhere on the planet? To clarify, I mean literally anywhere with the same degree of success. My point is that Liechtenstein could be a libertarian state right now (it almost is, the fucking monarch is an ancap) and still enjoy its sovereignty, whereas a libertarian state bordering Russia or China or some African shithole would have far less success.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490639862 118546234,118573286,2017-03-27 18:41:07,">And finally we are getting somewhere. Why would there be damage to Swiss or Austrian reputation if they invaded Liechtenstein, and with whom would their reputation be damaged? With those in favour of a sovereign lichtenstein >Did I ever make the claim that a libertarian state could exist anywhere on the planet? not spefically no. So this general is to discuss your fantasy worlds?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490640067 118546234,118573639,2017-03-27 18:43:58,">>118561915 Hey portubro mate, you got that link from last night - the book on libertarian strategy that hoppe recommended? Could have sworn I saved it but can't find it now.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490640238 118546234,118574455,2017-03-27 18:50:52,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490640652 118546234,118574546,2017-03-27 18:51:40,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490640700 118546234,118574767,2017-03-27 18:53:27,">>118574546 Brilliant, thats the one, thnx mate.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490640807 118546234,118575069,2017-03-27 18:55:58,">>118574767 No problem, but now that I think about it we should add it to the OP and the pastebin from now on. It definetely could be of use.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490640958 118546234,118575615,2017-03-27 19:00:02,">>118575069 Pretty sure the anon who first mentioned it said there was a pdf available on some plebbit sub. When I have a mo I'll root around or dig out the archive for last night",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490641202 118546234,118575806,2017-03-27 19:01:39,">>118573286 >With those in favour of a sovereign lichtenstein Ok, so now we can see that if there is a significant portion of surrounding societies that share a libertarian nation's general values, there will exist pressures that disincentivize attacks on that nation. Particularly when that nation poses no threat, can cause no international scandals, and is inherently neutral on the international stage. >So this general is to discuss your fantasy worlds? See my addendum here>>118572878, I originally phrased it poorly. I contend that libertarian societies can exist, but currently only in certain geopolitical regions.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490641299 118546234,118576253,2017-03-27 19:05:22,>>118568014,,Anonymous,1490455095358.png,js6ltHNvAYlpcqxaxlR33A==,BE,,1490641522 118546234,118577555,2017-03-27 19:16:37,"Bumping the greatest thread on /pol/ https://youtu.be/XMqPWqOCGJU",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490642197 118546234,118577704,2017-03-27 19:17:57,">>118575069 Found the pdf link https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490642277 118546234,118577860,2017-03-27 19:19:16,Bump,,Anonymous,CzFQX29.jpg,40TiHEGcMnKU3FesLXN7rw==,GB,,1490642356 118546234,118579966,2017-03-27 19:38:29,">>118573639 >>118574767 Glad you could find it. I think I'm gonna order it, sounds very nice from what I've read on Amazon.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490643509 118546234,118580021,2017-03-27 19:39:03,">>118568325 Attacking peoples opinions is in violation of the nap? Are you retarded? And hi I'm back from lecture in time",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490643543 118546234,118580024,2017-03-27 19:39:05,">>118577704 >https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/ Ah, thanks!",,Anonymous,1488739999641.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1490643545 118546234,118580418,2017-03-27 19:42:46,">>118568888 This isn't ness escarole true. Some believe that Marxism is an inevitable, passive mechanism. The way I see it, all of your little ancap communes are just as likely to use the nap as a casus bellie to declare war on their neighbours.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490643766 118546234,118580651,2017-03-27 19:44:59,">>118577555 checked Kek confirms!",,Anonymous,kek low time preference.png,gaEeddanBpFYGGD6SunPMQ==,US,,1490643899 118546234,118580733,2017-03-27 19:45:41,">>118569568 This just ain't ducking true in terms of violence. There were times in which states did not exist and we lived like animals. Death happened when it is convenient for the strongest. Also states do the opposite of insetivising violence bruv.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490643941 118546234,118581101,2017-03-27 19:48:50,">>118576253 What a shitty fucking meme.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490644130 118546234,118581247,2017-03-27 19:50:08,">>118576253 Democracy is a joke, though, while monarchism is leagues above it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490644208 118546234,118581671,2017-03-27 19:54:06,">>118568014 >'believe' in anarcho-capitalist >care about people being Jews You're not an anarcho-capitalist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490644446 118546234,118582022,2017-03-27 19:57:16,">>118568650 So what I'm saying is that is unlikely to happen, if not impossible. It would even be reliably anarchist or capitalist. You'd have authoritarian states, libertarian states, and communist states. All your doing is breaking state power and having it unevitably rebuild itself in tiny peices.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490644636 118546234,118582307,2017-03-27 19:59:52,">>118582022 But that's exactly what I want. If these states are not forced but formed on a voluntary basis, nobody gets kept in a system against his will. As long as they keep among themselves and don't force their ideology on people who don't want to join them, they should be free to do as they like.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490644792 118546234,118583701,2017-03-27 20:11:33,">>118582307 Who's to stop the states from violating the nap? How is you system anarchocapitalist? Would it not just be voluntarism? And if so, how do you enforce this idea? Further, what's to stop transhumance evolution for the elite that would give them the ability to enslave the world if not for ethical standards enforced? Let's say one state was developing such a technology and others were against it, and threatened war? Eventually you will start needing to answer ethical questions less the battlefield become the debate theatre.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490645493 118546234,118583833,2017-03-27 20:12:32,">>118546234 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkzEOO02NjM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490645552 118546234,118584607,2017-03-27 20:19:33,">>118565172 The NAP is more of modern libertarian party thing—aka fucking trash.",,Anonymous,ben garrison-vaccines.jpg,xC0mxXXBi7jIBAtv5qHLYw==,US,,1490645973 118546234,118584989,2017-03-27 20:23:32,">>118553340 >Divide and conquer tactics used to divide the right into sections that can do nothing about the commies and kikes Or in other words it's another >""STUPID LIBERTARIAN JEWS ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY."" >""STUPID STORMFAGS ONLY CARE ABOUT RACIAL PURITY."" episode. I know exactly who is behind this.",,Anonymous,250px-Pol_logo.png,bIPRo9laIXqXGqelvq+ZAg==,US,,1490646212 118546234,118585229,2017-03-27 20:26:06,">>118546234 Hoppe, Taylor, Spencer, Sobran, Lynn, and so many more seem to be really good friends.",,Anonymous,hoppejaredtaylor3.jpg,fMPe0zqI8XY0Lzw5PVDJRg==,US,,1490646366 118546234,118585373,2017-03-27 20:27:37,">>118584607 Says the guy who posted that retarded shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490646457 118546234,118586429,2017-03-27 20:37:52,>>118585229,,Anonymous,hoppeswims.jpg,zDDu+dD3j9QfRM8bkoQ/lg==,US,,1490647072 118546234,118587173,2017-03-27 20:45:06,">>118546234 Proud Ancap here. Fucking commies get the fuck off my board! Reeee Fucking socialist get the fuck of my board! Reeee Fucking neoconservatives get the fuck of my board! Reeee",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490647506 118546234,118587476,2017-03-27 20:47:59,"i voted for gary and to this day still think i voted the best way I could have that being said, who here /sharp/ 2020",,Anonymous,17498669_10212263635803948_5950985362765179691_n.jpg,UCcgPsEKlSO5+XiJCrsI+g==,US,,1490647679 118546234,118589682,2017-03-27 21:07:44,"Civic nationalism is only for goys, guys, ethnonationalism is for Israel and Jews ONLY.",,Anonymous,nsg-1h1.png,6pT1y4fDVr8L/nJ51xEX5w==,CA,,1490648864 118546234,118589854,2017-03-27 21:09:13,">>118553340 >stormies JIDF already got caught red handed posting the politics strawpoll and yet Fascist+NatSoc beat almost all the other categories combined, and I could point out how 90% of the 1919 German communist revolution leaders were Jewish, how affirmative action was a Jewish creation in both Canada and in the USA, how they were the driving force behind opening our borders, how the lawsuits that allowed near unrestricted abortion in our countries were both lead by kikes or hell I could lay out the thousands of hooked noses behind the drug/porn/tranny degeneracy they target our children with. But I won't. Rather i'll ask that whenever someone in this thread witnesses societal/political rot ask yourself, and don't be afraid to do some digging if necessary, if a certain sunken eyed inbred tribe is behind it. /pol/ calls this taking the redpill and it ruins everyone as it's impossible to stop seeing the (((coincidences)))",,Anonymous,1490346608130.jpg,k686N/mX4hWtjTTEL47o3w==,CA,,1490648953 118546234,118589964,2017-03-27 21:10:17,">>118589682 Let those third worlders in! They won't eventually vote to take everything you have and give it to the judeo-communists! Good goy!",,Anonymous,1490479787562.jpg,0RG3T1CnNxrhSyq8hJEnow==,CA,,1490649017 118635632,118635632,2017-03-28 06:33:57,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Classic2.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1490682837 118635632,118635649,2017-03-28 06:34:15,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,1490024875923s.jpg,f8Sex8jLtvmyKSZvvk+1ew==,US,,1490682855 118635632,118635711,2017-03-28 06:35:19,,,Anonymous,1484510430999.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1490682919 118635632,118635713,2017-03-28 06:35:22,Libertarianism is political nihilism and will lead to communism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490682922 118635632,118635823,2017-03-28 06:36:47,">Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) >Thread Tunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs",,Anonymous,1490024308005.jpg,Grw9oJ1492NpHa45Q6f97g==,US,,1490683007 118635632,118636111,2017-03-28 06:41:02,">>118635713 Libertarianism is not political nihilism and is the anti-thesis of communism. Libertarians hold strong pro-market anti-state positions.",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(2).png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1490683262 118635632,118636328,2017-03-28 06:44:20,why would you call us libertarian -right-? this implies that there's a libertarian left aswell which is a contradiction.,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490683460 118635632,118636440,2017-03-28 06:45:51,">>118636328 I agree with you, I just wanna make it clear this thread is not for cucky left-hand""libertarian"" faggots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490683551 118635632,118637152,2017-03-28 06:56:39,,,Anonymous,misc (6).jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,US,,1490684199 118635632,118637681,2017-03-28 07:04:36,"Good goy. Ethnonationalism is for Israel only. Civic nationalism is for goys. Don't worry, those third worlders won't eventually vote for judeo-communism. Ethnonationalism for America wouldn't even be possible. Sure Jews built a ethnostate from land that was some 5% Jewish but that's because they're the chosen people. It could never happen in America they are 50% nonwhite.",,Anonymous,1490346608130.jpg,k686N/mX4hWtjTTEL47o3w==,CA,,1490684676 118635632,118637892,2017-03-28 07:07:36,">>118635632 Conservatarian reporting in (Frank Meyers Fusionism for the nerdy among us) >>118635649 >>118635711 I would also include ""Liberal Fascism"" by Jonah Goldberg and either Augustine or Aquinas on the the natural law & free will.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490684856 118635632,118638359,2017-03-28 07:14:06,">>118637681 Where do you fags get the idea that I promote Civic nationalism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490685246 118635632,118639419,2017-03-28 07:29:09,,,Anonymous,ron_paul_rifle.png,kVZ3g/KYLdtNYGtV29bL0g==,US,,1490686149 118635632,118639747,2017-03-28 07:34:05,,,Anonymous,49mseaucl0px.jpg,AaMut7VjwONZEsIqBjuUOw==,US,,1490686445 118635632,118640247,2017-03-28 07:40:47,Revving up this thread.,,Anonymous,16265188_1242660785802238_8592370447082513369_n.jpg,lo3PH1742sINcCH1fXfRAA==,US,,1490686847 118635632,118640295,2017-03-28 07:41:20,,,Anonymous,ancap_smiley03.jpg,m769DbLW/1/65BkRh/IEvA==,US,,1490686880 118635632,118640322,2017-03-28 07:41:39,">>118640247 Thank you for your service.",,Anonymous,3C8ADBF900000578_4160648_President_Trump_is_pictured_above_saluting_as_he_gets_off_Marine_a_74_1485451613689.jpg,nGfwILxSqFvb9GJGHOxRKw==,US,,1490686899 118635632,118640332,2017-03-28 07:41:46,,,Anonymous,ancapsmiley_01.jpg,8CHPYvFMj9d+lxRqo5sMGw==,US,,1490686906 118635632,118640619,2017-03-28 07:45:39,">>118635713 Political nihilism? I'm an intuitionist, and absolutely despise nihilism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490687139 118635632,118640680,2017-03-28 07:46:26,">>118635632 Would there be public property in ancapistan?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490687186 118635632,118640720,2017-03-28 07:46:57,,,Anonymous,IMG_1091.jpg,3AaYEakyMzqJj7w+fejUrA==,US,,1490687217 118635632,118640752,2017-03-28 07:47:22,,,Anonymous,1488221081245.jpg,5cA9H0d3GtVsxAbeSxsUwg==,US,,1490687242 118635632,118640783,2017-03-28 07:47:51,,,Anonymous,IMG_1074.jpg,AR7lJgP9cT0PZ7knY9WkRw==,US,,1490687271 118635632,118640899,2017-03-28 07:49:24,">>118640752 mein fuhrer...",,Anonymous,Ioannes_Claudius_Juncker_die_7_Martis_2014.jpg,lbOr7jyD34f4kppOYB/qSA==,EU,,1490687364 118635632,118641002,2017-03-28 07:50:47,">>118637681 This development where leftist shills are trying to discredit anti-communist idea's by calling them jewish shills is pretty meta. >and by meta I mean retarded and painfully transparent",,Anonymous,I-dont-know-whos-Jewing-who-anymore.jpg,uo0QDMYFSgVsRJevNsicsA==,NL,,1490687447 118635632,118641209,2017-03-28 07:53:32,"Rate my meme, my fellow goys. >>118641002 Not to mention the other day some stormie was calling me a D&C shill on the grounds that there are ""few"" spaniards on this board and the guy opening commie threads also had a spanish flag. Confirmation bias, extreme self-delusion, etc.",,Anonymous,Spain 2025.png,dme0JYbDUWOnKUIXUEtlnQ==,ES,,1490687612 118635632,118641299,2017-03-28 07:54:38,">>118641209 >attacking gypos No EUgibs for you, moornigger racist biggot REEE",,Anonymous,,,EU,,1490687678 118635632,118641315,2017-03-28 07:54:47,">>118641209 fuck off commie spic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490687687 118635632,118641739,2017-03-28 08:00:10,">>118641315 >0.15 Reichsmarks were added to your account.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490688010 118635632,118641835,2017-03-28 08:01:21,">>118641739 Franco should have finished the job.",,Anonymous,1488586671712.png,SH3ikeDGIAFfnwhZXQ5Vug==,US,,1490688081 118635632,118642011,2017-03-28 08:03:44,">>118641739 If you're the same /liberty/ spic from yesterday you're cool with me. However we gotta watch out for double agents. /pol/ is full of commie shills.",,Anonymous,1488752726737.png,MdDUTz5TLmIjEyDVAwtVdw==,US,,1490688224 118635632,118642148,2017-03-28 08:05:29,">>118641835 this",,Anonymous,,,EU,,1490688329 118635632,118642321,2017-03-28 08:07:45,">>118642011 I usually do most of my political discussion/research in /liberty/, but I see having threads like this here as a very positive thing for once. >>118641835 You don't know shit about Franco.",,Anonymous,ancap vs NEETsocs.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,ES,,1490688465 118635632,118642513,2017-03-28 08:10:37,Leftists are more dangerous than Nazis. We need an alliance to destroy the Marxian cultists.,,Anonymous,1488977696817.png,+A5k507QPzhv4REL963mNA==,US,,1490688637 118635632,118643284,2017-03-28 08:21:30,">>118642321 To be honest I was paranoid about your flag as well. I've caught a handful of lefties trying to subvert our goys while pretending to be libertarians. But I looked at the archives and Spain operating a /liberty/ thread checked out to be true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490689290 118635632,118643837,2017-03-28 08:29:36,,,Anonymous,ancapepe.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1490689776 118635632,118643930,2017-03-28 08:30:52,">>118637681 >libertarianism means civic nationalism wew lad",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490689852 118635632,118644033,2017-03-28 08:32:14,">>118640295 this would be good if you didn't fuck up in the end",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490689934 118635632,118644341,2017-03-28 08:36:33,">>118635632 Opinions on New Hampshire free state project? Worth it or are there better places to live a non degenerate, state free and traditional way of life?",,Anonymous,1475206670228.jpg,I8ZYcUi8MxcqnaggXwsH/A==,NL,,1490690193 118635632,118644582,2017-03-28 08:39:50,">>118644341 it's a noble idea but it costed them a senate seat to the Dems by splitting the vote. Plus a lot of people from Massachusetts are moving to NH since they already fucked up their state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490690390 118635632,118644808,2017-03-28 08:43:02,">>118644341 Anywhere you can have guns and low taxes is good enough. As for non degenerate living maybe more conservative areas might be for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490690582 118635632,118645348,2017-03-28 08:50:53,">>118640680 everything should be privatized. what are you more likely to keep clean, your back yard or your local park? people often think libertarianism has no solution for environmentalism but privatization of nature is the best way to keep the earth clean. who in their right mind would willingly decrease the value of their land?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490691053 118635632,118645552,2017-03-28 08:53:14,/lrg/ is back. nice. bout the only threads worth checking in this shithole,,Anonymous,pol2b.png,iCB88iKGVcZsFul2+HiU1g==,BE,,1490691194 118635632,118645680,2017-03-28 08:54:56,">>118635632 classical liberal reporting in, libertarian is too much a stretch ideologically",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1490691296 118635632,118645784,2017-03-28 08:56:19,">>118645680 Who will prevent people from making roads tho?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490691379 118635632,118646013,2017-03-28 08:59:14,">>118640680 NO!",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,ES,,1490691554 118635632,118646246,2017-03-28 09:02:14,">>118645680 Classical liberalism is the philosophy that supports minarchism. So it's pretty much under the umbrella of libertarianism. Small gov conservatives (like many republicans allegedly are) are called classical liberals and libertarians alike.",,Anonymous,political test2.jpg,fxxGuFekxM2OaMjGoBo3nA==,ES,,1490691734 118635632,118646293,2017-03-28 09:02:51,">>118645784 government should maintain large important roads but devolve smaller ones to local companies",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1490691771 118635632,118647363,2017-03-28 09:15:46,">>118646293 I dunno man, fuck taxes. If I'm to advocate for a state might as well go full NatCap and locate some funds to helicopter removal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490692546 118635632,118647851,2017-03-28 09:21:47,">>118646293 >large important roads Those are exactly the ones it shouldn't maintain. The US had a free market in railways and until the state mixed in there were no problems with monopolies. I read this years ago but I think there were about 4 major companies competing and progress was good and prices kept getting lower. Now look at their piss poor railways.",,Anonymous,Ancap road.jpg,F8T//cbvhtQrlRL71te+rw==,SI,,1490692907 118635632,118647924,2017-03-28 09:22:41,"Hey Libertarians, street lighting.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490692961 118635632,118648025,2017-03-28 09:24:04,">>118635711 >>118640322 >>118640899 >>118642011 >>118644033 Sage this Yankee shit. >image unrelated",,{ip is logged in this post},SJW300.jpg,NLuzyp2Hbpt21LlP+PsYvQ==,AU,,1490693044 118635632,118648366,2017-03-28 09:28:16,">>118648025 Fucking bump you dong-washer.",,Anonymous,Enlightened.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1490693296 118635632,118648449,2017-03-28 09:29:30,>>118647924,,Anonymous,Headlamp.jpg,VGOJRjCVoHQTGlCAYQAtiw==,SI,,1490693370 118635632,118648657,2017-03-28 09:32:03,">>118647924 https://fee.org/articles/how-policing-works-in-a-privatized-city/ >""All the common areas of Atlantic Station including the streets, sidewalks, parks, [street lighting,] and alleys are private property.” If streets are private, those things get better taken care of than if some politician is in charge. This is the solution that applies to every conceivable ""public goods"" problem. >>118648449 Nah, that would be a shitty solution. Community (private) lighting would probably more prevalent.",,Anonymous,private-roads-comic.png,SET2TlD8/bze/Zi3PlH02A==,ES,,1490693523 118635632,118648750,2017-03-28 09:33:00,">>118648449 Made me giggle.",,Anonymous,1489950009277 (1).png,H6vPt5bDplaYK63WwPciBA==,AU,,1490693580 118635632,118648875,2017-03-28 09:34:30,">>118648657 >If streets are private, those things get better taken care of than if some politician is in charge. This is the solution that applies to every conceivable ""public goods"" problem. Then you have the problem of rich-poor disparity, this how you get uprisings and end up in modern socialist Europe.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490693670 118635632,118648918,2017-03-28 09:34:59,">>118635632 Cultural Libertarian is the best kind. All anti-com ""muh roads"" fuckwits can die without paying for firemen to save them... the fuckwits.",,Anonymous,Doug_Stanhope.jpg,hAmHFAvKgsHkfUyT5WhPrQ==,AU,,1490693699 118635632,118648931,2017-03-28 09:35:09,">>118647851 shit alright you made me change my opinion",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1490693709 118635632,118648964,2017-03-28 09:35:31,">>118648918 >Cultural Libertarian >muh any skin colour is okay Yeah nah mate.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490693731 118635632,118649092,2017-03-28 09:37:06,"Wouldn't a market without government interference and so consequently without minimum wage be bad? Like, unemployed people would get the job for less and less money.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490693826 118635632,118649122,2017-03-28 09:37:22,">>118648918 All the shitty parts of libertarianism without the functional parts. Nice try Sargon. This thread ain't for libtard socialists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490693842 118635632,118649321,2017-03-28 09:39:49,">>118648918 man your retarded. you think the communists are just going to let you do your own thing? if you leave them be they are going to use the current government to wittle away and erode any freedom you have and, being a ""cultural"" libertarian is being a communist you fucktard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490693989 118635632,118649358,2017-03-28 09:40:12,">>118649092 These people are nogs who took a basic mirco course and said ""Yeah you see, perfectly competitive markets blah blah blah"" without actually realising perfectly competitive markets don't actually exist. Also this is the 5th captcha I've gotten where it's just been trees and I have to look for a stop sign.",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-03-28 at 11.39.17 PM.png,8r4LrYxSPS7ADR2oTR0uOQ==,AU,,1490694012 118635632,118649394,2017-03-28 09:40:43,">>118648875 >this how you get uprisings and end up in modern socialist Europe. I wouldn't say Europe is suffering from a surplus of free markets. They've made sure over the course of decades to be almost as authoritarian as the monsters they fought to defeat. You get a rich-poor disparity like in Greece where the Greek government over spends for decades and tries to morally brow beat Germany into giving them more money. They wouldn't have had any riots in the first place if the Greek government didn't spend like a pimp with a week to live.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490694043 118635632,118649464,2017-03-28 09:41:37,'Anarcho'-capitalism is neo-feudalism.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490694097 118635632,118649500,2017-03-28 09:42:06,">>118649358 store front",,Anonymous,nansgrave.jpg,CDysKnNYqY8K8PMIf7jpyg==,US,,1490694126 118635632,118649705,2017-03-28 09:44:48,>>118635632,,Anonymous,lhm1jnikz2my.jpg,hoqwoKtLvQPQiEG9D2/2Uw==,US,,1490694288 118635632,118649951,2017-03-28 09:48:26,">>118649394 Every single classically economically liberal empire has fallen to socialism because humans trend towards the lowest state of entropy. Those who are rich work to only solidify passive income since that is the lowest state of entropy they can achieve. This is how you get an aristocrat class. The poor work to achieve low entropy but they cannot because of the aristocracy. They then start an uprising or threaten one, and then the aristocracy either collapses (as seen in Russia) or they cede a fractional bit of ground to keep the masses happy, like Rome. In the 1700s Britain was practically a fully free market with very limited economic restrictions placed in times of war. Now it's very socialist. The poor are and always will be (by the nature of economically free society) be the biggest cohort of people in a society. They will see the rich, be envious and want to achieve lower entropy. This is how Rome fell and its the way Europe is going. This is why libertarianism will never work. It's not sustainable.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490694506 118635632,118650079,2017-03-28 09:49:44,">>118635632 Alright fuckers, let's talk some shop. I've been a libertarian since late 2016 (Thanks, 2k16 election), and I've been mulling over a few things, specifically, the role of government in relation to the crony capitalist system. My personal view is that government should not necessarily be eliminated, but definitely limited, because I believe that with the deregulation of certain areas of the market, and the strengthening of regulation in a few places, it could potentially ensure that the market stays free. I also believe in the repeal of citizens united because it allows for the government to be owned and controlled by crony capitalists, who monopolize resources in the free market. What do you guys think? Looking for a genuine convo on this because I'm really trying to figure out what I stand for.",,Anonymous,I like where this is going.jpg,v/3PuuN7MVshO5Jt5d1iFQ==,US,,1490694584 118635632,118650132,2017-03-28 09:50:21,">>118648875 >Then you have the problem of rich-poor disparity, That argument operates under the assumption that such a problem doesn't already exist with most state sponsored public goods. The public security monopolies (police) already overprotect wealthy areas while completely neglecting poorer zones, which tend to be crime-ridden. The public infrastructure monopoly already inverts way more in tidying and maintaining wealthy zones and infrastructure while completely forgetting less wealthy zones, which tend to have a quite lamentable infrastructure (potholes, broken lights, etc). Poor people pay taxes too but don't get their corresponding ""share"" of protection. If they owned the streets they could hire a security agency for a fraction of what the state charges them. The incentive would be way stronger since having more crime they would save money contracting such services than they lose via theft or mugging. Same goes for lighting, education, and pretty much everything else. Why should people who can't afford to have kids pay for education for people who do? Why should people that they themselves couldn't afford to go to college pay for other's people college education? Whenever you see public services is pretty much always a redistribution of resources of lower income people to higher income ones, even though it's often fueled by progressive narrative.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490694621 118635632,118650175,2017-03-28 09:50:53,">>118649092 There is no such thing as a minimum wage. The minimum wage is and always will be zero dollars hour. There only is the state mandated prohibition to work from 0-X units of currency. In other words, minimum wage is not a guarantee, it is a prohibition. As a matter of fact, the minimum wage in its origins was proposed as a policy for eugenics in 19th century England. They believed that if they banned poor people from working they would starve and their ""inferior"" genetics wouldn't pass to the next generation. The same did the Yankees in Northern USA, but this time they used the minimum wage to prevent blacks from working. Minimum wage is just a policy that favors the middle class by excluding lower classes from the job market. >>118649464 Nice to see you, chairman John. Make sure those filthy proles work!",,Anonymous,salario mínimo.jpg,eEl86aZlEuDkH359XPbwRg==,ES,,1490694653 118635632,118650251,2017-03-28 09:51:40,">>118650132 >That argument operates under the assumption that such a problem doesn't already exist with most state sponsored public goods. No it doesn't. I'm not advocating for the current system.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490694700 118635632,118650418,2017-03-28 09:53:38,">>118649358 change to legacy captcha then",,Anonymous,Look Close.png,hQO/WcF+tksfRZOOnRg2sA==,US,,1490694818 118635632,118650652,2017-03-28 09:55:55,">>118635632 Are you seriously advocating for the legalization of rape?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490694955 118635632,118650730,2017-03-28 09:56:47,">>118650251 I don't think I understand what's your point then. If you don't think that privatization as a means for solving the public goods problem would work then you must necessarily be advocating for state monopoly of infrastructure and security provision. To me it's an either/or question. State provision of these goods tends to be redistributory, whereas in a private enterprise basis everyone would get what they pay for.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490695007 118635632,118650843,2017-03-28 09:57:55,">>118650652 It's not legalisation if the law doesn't exist.",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-03-28 at 11.57.25 PM.png,Az2whL6/iF9IPWIrYWdbLQ==,AU,,1490695075 118635632,118650860,2017-03-28 09:58:10,">>118650652 No, we are advocating for the legalization of self defense and proportionate retaliatory violence. Which is something that your country desperately needs, to be honest.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490695090 118635632,118651118,2017-03-28 10:00:55,">>118650843 >>118650860 So if a woman gets raped on the street and the dude is just so strong and fast that she can't do anything against it and he then murders her and hides her body in a forest Who would prosecute the perpetrator?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490695255 118635632,118651157,2017-03-28 10:01:24,">>118650079 I'll reply to you, since you appear to not be a meme, but its a question to the whole thread really. You do realize that libertarianism, and free market, rely on open borders to get cheap labor in, right? The defense mechanism is to have low tax and low social benefits, so the aliens HAVE to work, else they starve, but the system still promotes immigration and still abolishes the idea of nation or patriotism. And while I myself am not spooked, I am sure a lot of people posting here, larping as free market capitalists, actually wouldn't be okay with that.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490695284 118635632,118651215,2017-03-28 10:01:59,">>118650730 My point is libertarianism is not sustainable and it will just end in the same system we see today. >To me it's an either/or question Third positions exist. It's how national socialism came to exist. Dislike the current system, dislike communism and dislike liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490695319 118635632,118651246,2017-03-28 10:02:22,">>118651118 Mate I'm just stirring shit.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490695342 118635632,118651282,2017-03-28 10:02:44,">>118650079 >definitely limited How do you achieve this? >strengthening of regulation in a few places Which places? If lawsuit for damaging property (air and water included) would become common it might be better than inspectors going to check on companies. You can't rely on inspections alone and when the state says everything is up to spec and the environment is still getting polluted what do you do? >market stays free Free market means free from interference by the government. If you use the other definition you could stretch it as far as literal communism so it's pointless. It's regulated market then. >monopolize resources in the free market Give a specific problem. I can give you something on the privatization of water supply in Argentina. http://www4.ncsu.edu/~amdomans/waterquality/Galiani%20et%20al%20JPE%20113%202005.pdf >child mortality fell 8 percent in the areas that privatized their water services and that the effect was largest (26 percent) in the poorest areas. So higher quality, lower disease, good price. I don't see the problem. If the companies want business in the future they won't fuck with their customers.",,Anonymous,Leafs Ed.jpg,clA23slPVijfrXgMK+Mk9Q==,SI,,1490695364 118635632,118651309,2017-03-28 10:03:04,">>118651246 So ancap is just a meme?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490695384 118635632,118651376,2017-03-28 10:03:53,">>118651118 Obviously the community would. If you know that there is a rapist murderer in your settlement you will probably get together 5 bucks each and hire the local warlord to hang someone.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490695433 118635632,118651415,2017-03-28 10:04:23,">>118651309 It's the same as anarcho communists. People like to think they believe in it but if the ideas were actually implemented into reality they'd shit their pants.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490695463 118635632,118651453,2017-03-28 10:04:49,">>118651118 Women can get legal steroids to outrun rapists.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490695489 118635632,118651748,2017-03-28 10:08:23,">>118651415 You should visit America, there's people that are walking an-cap memeballs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490695703 118635632,118651793,2017-03-28 10:08:50,">>118649951 There is something to be said about societies and governments becoming more collectivist over the generations. Sure, we can make the eschatological argument for this happening and anyone who studies history knows that Augustine and Hobbes are right on human nature. But I think the important/essential thing about libertarianism (if a pure libertarian state can never be achieved) is what Kirk called ""rear guard"" or what Albert Jay Nock described as being the janitors of the state. If we cannot stop the ""leviathan"" state from growing, at least we can make it less burdensome in some degree or fashion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490695730 118635632,118651890,2017-03-28 10:09:47,">>118651118 Courts would still exist in a right-anarchist society for the exact same reason that you're asking such a question: because there is demand",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490695787 118635632,118651965,2017-03-28 10:10:48,">>118651376 The body has not been found and her only relative is her autistic father who has no money and no friends. He cancelled his QuickResponse™ crime insurance bc he couldn't afford the recent premium increases and because he doesn't have any friends he doesn't know where to get the money to pay the police for an investigation which is expensive as fuck if you're not insured >>118651453 Not an argument >>118651890 So laws would still exist too? I demand laws where are my laws? I remand gibsmedats where are my gibsmedats?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490695848 118635632,118652027,2017-03-28 10:11:31,">>118651415 More like it's a logical extreme that people advocate tending towards but don't believe it would ever fully be implemented. Also, people are allowed to agree with an ideology in part. For example I think a free market is better than any alternative, but I also don't think that a free market necessarily avoids monopolies. Turns out people can think for themselves and come to conclusions, who knew? And if we're playing the game where we pretend our respective preferred ideologies are going to be pushed to some negative extreme, there's nothing saying that NatSoc can't fall into any number of pitfalls that historically, every authoritarian government has in the past. People are corruptible. But also, that's beside the point. The real point is that, if a NatSoc woke up one day and found that his worst neighbors were right-leaning libertarians, and if one day a Capitalist woke up and found that their worst neighbors were National-Socialists, that would be a pretty good day for both of these people. Even though I don't agree with NatSoc as an ideology I'd like to live under, I prefer it vastly as a neighbor to any number of communist, socialist or democratic nation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490695891 118635632,118652167,2017-03-28 10:13:04,">>118651215 Please explain to me how a street can neither be owned by the state or a private group of people and still be maintained. What is the ""third position"" in this specific issue? I'm thinking you must be baiting here and are completely uninterested in the topic. >>118651118 >>118651309 Nobody would actually suport a system that didn't solve issues like that. You are really holding us in really low regard if you believe so. The reason many people supports ancapism is because modern day's judiciary systems are based on penalization or rehabilitation but more often than not the completely forget the victim, treating it as a nuisance. One of the main appeals of libertarianism is that advocates for restitutory legal systems, be them either private or public.. I already wrote a fuckton of text today so I'll rather leave this link that explains it better than I ever could. https://mises.org/library/idea-private-law-society",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490695984 118635632,118652255,2017-03-28 10:14:00,">>118651965 Literally just look up the concept of voluntary society and your questions will be answered.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490696040 118635632,118652368,2017-03-28 10:15:14,">>118651965 If you want laws then you can pay a firm to protect you under those laws. This would work exactly the same as taxation, only without force. Governing firms would therefore be directly subject to your demands via your ability to fund and defund them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490696114 118635632,118652370,2017-03-28 10:15:16,">>118652167 >>118652255 My question is where is the law?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490696116 118635632,118652398,2017-03-28 10:15:36,">>118651965 >to pay the police for an investigation Insurance companies pay. You pay insurance companies before the crime. So they pay you out for damages immediately. And to avoid paying out more victims they'll prosecute the perpetrator. The laws are made by judges. It's called common law and it works on the basis of precedent. If these judges make shitty decisions they get phased out of operation more effectively than under a monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490696136 118635632,118652558,2017-03-28 10:17:35,">>118652370 The mistake you're making is thinking that morality is state enforced. Please watch any Hoppe lecture on libertarian societies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490696255 118635632,118652612,2017-03-28 10:18:07,">>118652368 Let's say I'm a poor fag and my ""law insurance"" doesn't cover rape bc I'm a man and I don't expect to get raped but then I get raped by some faggot. He can't be prosecuted though because it's not covered - is that a moral society? I could just go hunt some poorfags who can't afford insurance and nobody could prosecute me",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490696287 118635632,118652629,2017-03-28 10:18:20,">>118652370 There is no ""the law"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490696300 118635632,118652679,2017-03-28 10:18:58,">>118652558 Morality is transcendent Slavery isn't moral when there are no laws against it",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490696338 118635632,118652773,2017-03-28 10:19:58,">>118652629 Law emerges from morality, at least that's what it should be like",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490696398 118635632,118652777,2017-03-28 10:19:59,">>118652612 And the other subscribers are just gonna let a rapist run around?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490696399 118635632,118652790,2017-03-28 10:20:08,">>118651965 >so law would still exist too? I demand laws where are my laws? In all fairness to the person saying there would be laws and courts in a ""right-anarchist society"", I believe he is referring to a minarchist government where the government serves as basic law and order (i.e. prosecuting violent crimes). A ""night watchman"" state to be blunt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490696408 118635632,118652909,2017-03-28 10:21:27,">>118649358 Jejejeje. That's what you deserve for not going with the program.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490696487 118635632,118652913,2017-03-28 10:21:28,">>118652790 >there would be laws and courts There are laws and courts to handle disputes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEQmuaJeew",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490696488 118635632,118652961,2017-03-28 10:22:02,">>118652370 It is everything explained there. It is very short and you'll probably eat through in a couple hours. https://mises.org/library/production-security-0 >>118652398 >>118652612 And even in the case that such services couldn't be afforded by the victim the company could homestead part of the rights of the retribution as a payment. That assuming some of the local companies didn't offer to do it for free as a means of publicity. >>118652679 >Legality is the basis for morality. So are you telling me your moral referent is Angela Merkel? As far as I know she has been making all the laws in Germany for more than a decade.",,Anonymous,an opinion with a gun.jpg,Uh47DVnW4lqXlh/nSu0ilg==,ES,,1490696522 118635632,118652999,2017-03-28 10:22:28,">>118652773 If you want to argue that there exists an inherent morality then it has to be a function of nature. Do you want to play solely by the rules established by nature?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490696548 118635632,118653000,2017-03-28 10:22:29,">>118652679 This statement makes me think you agree with me and just don't realize it yet. Please, educate yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490696549 118635632,118653271,2017-03-28 10:25:44,">>118652167 >Please explain to me how a street can neither be owned by the state or a private group of people and still be maintained. What is the ""third position"" in this specific issue? The third position its owned both by the state and the people. Because the state is the essence of the will of the people.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490696744 118635632,118653321,2017-03-28 10:26:18,">>118652398 As I said he couldn't afford the insurance anymore >>118652777 They don't even know who did it bc the firm won't start an investigation unless it's covered >>118652961 K thx No I meant morality is the basis for legality >>118652999 God",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490696778 118635632,118653585,2017-03-28 10:29:27,">>118653321 >unless it's covered Are you retarded? The subscribers would want to know if a criminal is on the loose. >God Fuck off with the Shariah crap Ahmed.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490696967 118635632,118653610,2017-03-28 10:29:43,">>118653271 Very poetical, but you just spouted bullshit. You advocate for state owned infrastructure, that's it. You just call it by another name or justify it with a different reason, but it's exactly the same.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490696983 118635632,118653777,2017-03-28 10:31:36,">>118653321 Abrahamic-type God, as in the creator? If so then nature's rules are his rules. Anyway, to use your example of slavery. You say it doesn't become moral just because there's no laws preventing it. I say it doesn't become immoral just because there are laws preventing it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490697096 118635632,118653884,2017-03-28 10:32:58,">>118653610 I think he's differentiating between a socialist state (Nazi Germany extreme example) and a liberal state (USA extreme example).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490697178 118635632,118653901,2017-03-28 10:33:10,">>118653585 >>118653777 I know you niggers are wrong somewhere",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490697190 118635632,118654095,2017-03-28 10:35:22,>>118653901,,Anonymous,Manul lol.jpg,Yo4LFqIb0pVUCNgRN4yNJQ==,SI,,1490697322 118635632,118654136,2017-03-28 10:35:58,">>118652612 Again you demand something, which I do as well, reflecting the need for such a function. Wouldn't there be governing firms that provide justice for free? If you won't allow that, then you cannot also allow the ability of current governments to do the same - I could easily ask the question: If a government is poor, how will criminals be prosecuted? The reality of the scenario presented here is that funding exists and their is no requirement for forced taxation. Furthermore, your question does not justify forceful funding, since humans are not born with access to anything - these things that you expect have only ever been given to you out of charity. Institutions of justice do not exist without us building them. They exist out of fortune and are not natural. So not only is your scenario unrealistic in that it wouldn't occur in a free society where justice is in demand, but it fundamentally does not justify the use of force.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490697358 118635632,118654278,2017-03-28 10:37:33,">>118653901 Ancaps? Yeah there's faults with it, that's why I'm not one. But the general principles are perfectly sound. You say you can just go around killing poorfags without being prosecuted because they can't afford insurance Well where are you killing them? On whose property?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490697453 118635632,118654321,2017-03-28 10:38:05,">>118653585 >The subscribers would want to know if a criminal is on the loose. Hey, it's right too. The crime happens in a specifical location and that location is most likely to be owned by an individual or group of individuals that are subscribed to a security agency or can pay one. Those would be interested too on having the crime investigated even if they were not directly affected. Many forms of insurance would bind the agency to prosecute all crimes based on territory (the limits of the property) instead of an individual basis. >>118653884 I know, but he's still advocating public ownership of infrastructure while pretending it is not because according to his personal opinion this time people would be allegedly better represented and the inherent fuckups of government public goods provision would totally not happen. It is naive to say the least. >>118653901 Yeah, private law societies are absurd! What kind of person would advocate such craziness? ... That's how it begins.",,Anonymous,authoritarian idiocy.png,w7ikULnNHUPfV/W5SK4lZA==,ES,,1490697485 118635632,118654323,2017-03-28 10:38:07,>civic nationalism,,Anonymous,IMG_7508.jpg,BxgHFEwCNcmgwcDA5bUwpw==,US,,1490697487 118635632,118654345,2017-03-28 10:38:21,"lolbertarians = same type of people who allow jews to walk in and lock the door behind them >yes goy anything goes hehe",,Anonymous,34C3AD6E00000578-3615810-image-a-4_1464585787511.jpg,MV/nDdlJ9xDH3js7eJy1ag==,LU,,1490697501 118635632,118654386,2017-03-28 10:38:44,">>118637892 Read anatomy of the state. Conservatarian is a contradiction",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490697524 118635632,118654495,2017-03-28 10:39:54,">>118654278 I kill them for fun on property that hasn't been claimed yet Also if the principles are sound, why is it flawed? If something works in theory it also works in practice otherwise the theory is flawed",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490697594 118635632,118654507,2017-03-28 10:40:02,,,Anonymous,libertarian.jpg,IXKvEq7FgW1RoVN5zb6uZw==,LU,,1490697602 118635632,118654585,2017-03-28 10:40:57,">>118653610 >You advocate for state owned infrastructure, that's it. You advocate for state owned infrastructure by the nature of the end result of libertarianism. When you want to boil everything down to simply yes or no's, your points become retarded. The argument is in the micro not the macro. Libertarianism is not sustainable because of class conflict. This class conflict either ends in a gradual socialist degradation of the economy and culture. IE. Rome, Britain, France and the USA OR A sudden destruction of the upper class. IE. Russia, China, Cambodia and practically all communist countries. Each outcome leaves a country objectively worse off after its run its course. National Socialism offers the actual end result of libertarianism which is a class push towards a fair and equitable system whilst actually sustaining that system through authoritarian means such as state indoctrination and retaining purity of people and culture.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490697657 118635632,118654602,2017-03-28 10:41:15,,,Anonymous,libertarian.jpg,w4gme9kU9Ujlb7ETci/K+w==,LU,,1490697675 118635632,118654757,2017-03-28 10:42:47,">>118654495 >property that hasn't been claimed yet Congratulations on being the first person on Mars.",,Anonymous,1442048704932.jpg,3DrcgwAVJohLdk5gFdFJxQ==,SI,,1490697767 118635632,118654761,2017-03-28 10:42:49,">>118654345 >>118654507 >>118654602 >stormfags still trying to shill their retarded utopia lol",,Anonymous,1479052875927.jpg,UnyICFWttcIyzu1+2RSNlQ==,US,,1490697769 118635632,118654782,2017-03-28 10:43:00,">>118654345 >>118654507 >>118654602 Don't give me this commie bullshit. There is no libertarian party.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490697780 118635632,118654833,2017-03-28 10:43:27,">>118654323 >nationalism How naive are you?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490697807 118635632,118654877,2017-03-28 10:43:51,">>118635632 Great to finally see a Libertarian thread here. God bless you and fuck the commies to Pluto.",,Anonymous,1488498678161.jpg,iWCZ9xnmk29concnAFiZ/A==,AT,,1490697831 118635632,118654921,2017-03-28 10:44:17,">>118654757 Yes I did it on mars",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490697857 118635632,118654934,2017-03-28 10:44:24,">>118654782 >tfw the LP killed the libertarian movement back then in the 70's >tfw people still keep equating libertarians to the partyarchs",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490697864 118635632,118654954,2017-03-28 10:44:36,">>118654345 That guy looks suspiciously jewish.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490697876 118635632,118655011,2017-03-28 10:45:13,">>118654585 Class doesn't exist. Only Individuals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490697913 118635632,118655028,2017-03-28 10:45:21,">>118654921 Cool. Send me a postcard.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490697921 118635632,118655077,2017-03-28 10:45:53,">>118654877 The lrg's are rollin' erry day now, in addition to taking over fag threads to save time let",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490697953 118635632,118655112,2017-03-28 10:46:15,">>118655011 You sound like a marxist. Class exists because people say it exists and they feel it exists.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490697975 118635632,118655115,2017-03-28 10:46:16,">>118655028 here ya go",,Anonymous,mars pepe.png,AVVxgfDruCx1TkXA5aPitg==,DE,,1490697976 118635632,118655179,2017-03-28 10:47:03,">>118635713 NOT AN ARGUMENT",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490698023 118635632,118655218,2017-03-28 10:47:29,">>118655112 Feelings lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490698049 118635632,118655332,2017-03-28 10:48:39,">>118635713 What's the difference between Libertarianism, Minarchism, AnCapism and Snekism?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490698119 118635632,118655406,2017-03-28 10:49:21,">>118654585 There is no class by definition.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490698161 118635632,118655413,2017-03-28 10:49:24,">>118655218 >Feelings lol Feelings exist faggot and therefore by extension all subjective concepts which are felt exist. The distinction to make is to what extent do certain feels matter. Class feels matter.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490698164 118635632,118655416,2017-03-28 10:49:26,">>118654495 Then nobody prosecutes you. >if the principles are sound, why is it flawed? Sound as in they make sense. They're based on things that have been proven. It's flawed imo because I don't think ancap societies would be successful unless a large enough portion of the world converted to them at once.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490698166 118635632,118655439,2017-03-28 10:49:38,">>118655112 >espouses class theory >calls others Marxists who disagree Oy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490698178 118635632,118655471,2017-03-28 10:49:57,">>118655406 Don't care. Class exists.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490698197 118635632,118655475,2017-03-28 10:50:00,">>118655115 Nice keep getting rid of those Mars bums though. They ruined the neighborhood.",,Anonymous,Rothbard clear em out.png,5LHHMCq/PadHGZNp4weHdg==,SI,,1490698200 118635632,118655552,2017-03-28 10:50:45,">>118655439 >tries to disregard a concept by implying its a social construct and therefore doesn't matter Vey",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490698245 118635632,118655562,2017-03-28 10:50:50,">>118635632 10/10 treed",,Anonymous,1487013541245.png,XFS7UD9BDCG48y6zl2LhgQ==,IS,,1490698250 118635632,118655656,2017-03-28 10:51:47,">>118655416 That sounds wrong Also your last sentence sounds like >le socialism can only be successful if everyone is socialist maymay",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490698307 118635632,118655731,2017-03-28 10:52:29,">>118655552 You larp I laugh",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490698349 118635632,118655890,2017-03-28 10:54:03,">>118655471 When there's an ancap society, there's no class and no matter how much you shit your pants while raging about how (((natsoc))) is superior and class exists will change that. Class is the product of violence of the state. in an ancap society there is no state with a monopoly on jurisdiction, theft or whatever. Infact there's no monopoly at all.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490698443 118635632,118655893,2017-03-28 10:54:05,">>118655731 Into the gas chamber (that doesn't exist) with you.",,Anonymous,1480383671499.png,hP1dl7LiVwhsul1wvq5mWw==,AU,,1490698445 118635632,118655907,2017-03-28 10:54:12,"IM personally for unregulated capitalism end all government payouts exception: defense courts rest gone, work or starve, dont have kid unless have money",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490698452 118635632,118656066,2017-03-28 10:55:28,">>118655890 >When there's an ancap society, there's no class Why? Do people just stop feeling poor? >Class is the product of violence of the state Class is a product of the natural human state to compare himself to his peers. Where he feels inadequate, he is poor. Where he feels superior, he is rich. That's class.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490698528 118635632,118656181,2017-03-28 10:56:33,">>118655907 What about a child who is orphaned at 3 to parents who died in a car accident and has no other family? You expect them to fend for themselves?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490698593 118635632,118656199,2017-03-28 10:56:42,">>118655656 If it sounds wrong then don't hunt them down That maymay's not true, though. Socialism can be backed by a strong state. The existence of those stronger states is why I can't see ancap societies existing for very long before being annexed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490698602 118635632,118656202,2017-03-28 10:56:43,">>118654386 >Conservatarian is a contradiction That depends on your definition and who you are using for Conservative and Libertarian. It wouldn't be a contradiction if I alloyed the ideas of Burke (Burke's ""little platoons""), Augustine & Aquinas (natural law), and Ayn Rand or Milton Friedman. Since we as humans recognize that we're social creatures that live in societies, we can do things without the coercion of the state. While at the same time holding the importance of the atomization/individuation of a single person. You need a mix, or at least recognize that the divide between conservative and libertarian is hazy at best.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490698603 118635632,118656251,2017-03-28 10:57:09,Do assault gifs violate the NAP?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490698629 118635632,118656277,2017-03-28 10:57:27,>when you counter argument to >muh roads is to not use roads altogether,,Anonymous,Average_Tory.jpg,YxhJ1Jj/mNSwZInqB6I53w==,NL,,1490698647 118635632,118656331,2017-03-28 10:57:59,">>118655893 I follow you anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490698679 118635632,118656514,2017-03-28 10:59:44,">>118637681 >private property means open borders. every single time",,Anonymous,1466709938876.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,NL,,1490698784 118635632,118656724,2017-03-28 11:01:49,">>118656277 >poorfag can't afford a prime commie removing UH-1 I want you out of my community.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490698909 118635632,118656873,2017-03-28 11:03:21,">>118646246 Haha Cantwell got an upgrade",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490699001 118635632,118656942,2017-03-28 11:04:09,">>118656066 This is so dumb. So you literally say that feelings define class, not any factual income or possessions. How do you distinguish lower and middle class then ? Does the middle class feel better about having a small house ? But they still feel poor in comparison to the upper class. Congratulations, you've just graduated from the tree farm. In the ancap society everyone is free to work their ass off to """"""feel"""""" rich - because contrary to any statist society, there's an actual and realistically high probability that you become factually wealthy, because you keep what you earn and are able to reinvest it by your means. Noone tells you what to do. Be smart, get rich. If you feel poor because you're a lazy ass stormweeny and the ebin jooz stole your wife or you're unable to win a war against emus and shit then that ain't the problem of anyone else but yourself.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490699049 118635632,118657079,2017-03-28 11:05:34,,,Anonymous,1489981648634.jpg,XnweBGBJLV0zaU1eNKLVyw==,US,,1490699134 118635632,118657332,2017-03-28 11:08:03,">>118657079 This one is exceptionally good lel",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490699283 118635632,118657589,2017-03-28 11:10:31,">>118656942 This tard is equating social and economic class.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490699431 118635632,118658017,2017-03-28 11:14:56,">>118657589 google >Social class refers to a group of people with similar levels of wealth, influence, and status",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490699696 118635632,118658026,2017-03-28 11:15:07,">>118655332 Someone reply pls I'd like to know the difference",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490699707 118635632,118658140,2017-03-28 11:16:06,">>118656942 >So you literally say that feelings define class, not any factual income or possessions. Yes. A man who feels rich in Ethiopia will feel poor in Beverly Hills. >How do you distinguish lower and middle class then ? I don't. It's however people distinguish themselves. >Does the middle class feel better about having a small house ? But they still feel poor in comparison to the upper class. See above. >In the ancap society everyone is free to work their ass off to """"""feel"""""" rich And? Just because people are free to do something doesn't mean they will. >If you feel poor because you're a lazy ass stormweeny and the ebin jooz stole your wife or you're unable to win a war against emus and shit then that ain't the problem of anyone else but yourself. This is what creates class conflict. An indifference to the suffering of those who you believe are below you. National Socialism brings dignity to all lines of work and makes people feel an obligation to their community, collective and nation to work. They don't work out of envy, they work out of pride and obligation. This is why today Germany's economy is so robust because of the Mittlestand which was really pioneered in Nazi Germany. Small-Medium enterprises, originally formed through government initiative, that treated workers like humans but also expected highly of them, giving the workers a sense of pride and dignity in their work. This stops class conflict combined with socialist ammenities offered to all.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490699766 118635632,118658556,2017-03-28 11:20:08,">>118658026 Libertarianism is an umbrella term to cover all those ideologies including libertarian socialists but those are retarded so we ignore them. Minarchists advocate for small government (18th/early 19th century US). Snek is basically the symbol for the Minarchists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag AnCaps advocate for a private law society where everything is privatized and respect for private property is undisputed (NAP).",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490700008 118635632,118658716,2017-03-28 11:21:30,">>118635632 >be lolbertarian >advocate for legal drugs, fag marriage, legal prosititution, (((free trade))), and open borders >libertarian party is the most embarrassing party in the history of the US >libertarian candidate last two elections is to the left of the democrats >libertarian ideology is exposed as weak during migrant crisis >libertarians flock en masse to fascism, monarchism, and natsoc >few autists remain >damage control failed ideology by associating themselves with the authoritarian statist Pinochet and autistic interpretations of some esoteric writings from Hoppe that violate the NAP >call themselves right wing and call everyone else leftists and get taken seriously by no one including other libertarians >shill their meme ideology everyday on a Tibetan backgammon board painting forum Sad!",,Anonymous,1481854848536.jpg,uT40Fu3E7wEknhqFQdiOnQ==,US,,1490700090 118635632,118659023,2017-03-28 11:23:58,">>118658716 Nothing wrong with free trade.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490700238 118635632,118659038,2017-03-28 11:24:07,">>118658556 Ah I see ty m8",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490700247 118635632,118659070,2017-03-28 11:24:23,">>118655332 >>118658026 Libertarian= smallest government required to maintain whatever they consider to be necessity for the state to function. State meaning a non-voluntary society under a government. Minarchism= smallest government required to maintain the bare minimum essentials for a voluntary society to function. Ancap= one step further, still a voluntary society but everything including anything considered essential is controlled by people through private property and operating to make profits.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490700263 118635632,118659091,2017-03-28 11:24:36,">>118655332 Libertarian is used as a blanket term for most of these groups. Ancaps often refer to themselves as libertarians who believe in abolishing the state and privatizing everything. Monarchists believe in state defense courts and roads, snekists believe in violating the NAP minimally to ensure a libertarian social order, often with helicopter rides with the end goal of abolishing the state. I am an Anarcho-snekist who wants to remove commies by helicopter, but only when they trespass or threaten my person or property.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1490700276 118635632,118659132,2017-03-28 11:24:56,">>118659023 Over specialisation is a pretty big one.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490700296 118635632,118659191,2017-03-28 11:25:36,">>118659091 Shit I mean minarchists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490700336 118635632,118659271,2017-03-28 11:26:17,">>118658026 *These are all my understanding of what these terms mean, so take them with a grain of salt; Libertarianism: has become a political rorschach test. Ranging from anything from the Libertarian political party to Ron Paul. Pretty much open orders to a degree, drug legalization, lower regulations & spending, and beefier gun rights. Minarchism: is pretty much the ""night watchman state"". Can still have courts and laws but the state is bare bones when it comes to operations/functions (possibly a military and ability to print money) Ancapism: stateless society where all operations of what the modern state did do, is now done by private organizations/companies. Snekism: is pretty much just a catch all for being pro liberty and freedom. So anyone from a classical liberal to an anarcho-capitalist can be under this banner.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490700377 118635632,118659345,2017-03-28 11:26:59,">>118658140 >Yes. A man who feels rich in Ethiopia will feel poor in Beverly Hills. Because when he does not raise his income, then he is factually less wealthy than the average hollywood resident. >And? Just because people are free to do something doesn't mean they will They will as there is no welfare safety net. You or you die. Of course there is charity, because people are generous - voluntarily. You're also implying that people would exclusively work to be wealthy (apart from surviving) - or wealthier than others, because of envy - in an ancap society. When you have your community, why would you act against them ? They'd physically remove you if you did - or stopped sharing the same views. Since there is no class, there can't be class conflict. Your misconception about ancap is that, because it terms ""capitalism"" there would be a shitton of megacorps, monopolies and cartels an shiet. That's wrong. The market and the people will ensure that there would virtually no such things, because then, property rights and liberty are inherently on the edge",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490700419 118635632,118659402,2017-03-28 11:27:32,">>118648657 >ok but, without government, who will deliver the mail?",,Anonymous,my sides.jpg,i+XE2q/2p+n8dF/tn+rzkg==,CA,,1490700452 118635632,118659539,2017-03-28 11:29:02,">>118659345 *do or die",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490700542 118635632,118659617,2017-03-28 11:29:50,">>118654877 >Austrian enlighten us on Austrian economics, please",,Anonymous,1487003254097.png,HGPzwEftwGt9jO2pKvcvpw==,CA,,1490700590 118635632,118659691,2017-03-28 11:30:32,">>118658716 b-but goy, do you not want to be free?",,Anonymous,12.jpg,golQCX/ycLqY8ebMjyUamA==,NL,,1490700632 118635632,118659699,2017-03-28 11:30:38,">>118658556 I am assuming you are the same Serb in all of these Libertarian General Threads. And I have to say, you really know your shit, keep up the good work!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490700638 118635632,118659903,2017-03-28 11:32:42,">>118659699 >Serb T-thanks.",,Anonymous,1488739993229.jpg,ZEJxcMf//n+jNw9n/1/s7A==,SI,,1490700762 118635632,118659963,2017-03-28 11:33:26,">>118650652 >what is the NAP",,Anonymous,1484190493751.jpg,43YvkMb42y2LhKLelQZOPQ==,CA,,1490700806 118635632,118660017,2017-03-28 11:33:56,">>118659617 no enlighten yourself",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490700836 118635632,118660101,2017-03-28 11:34:41,">From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy Did reading this depress the shit out of anyone else? It's so clear that we've gotten worse but almost everyone doesn't see it like that. Most ""libertaraisn"" today even seem to support democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490700881 118635632,118660196,2017-03-28 11:35:45,">>118659345 >Because when he does not raise his income, then he is factually less wealthy than the average hollywood resident. And? It matters how he feels. I guarantee you I could find a homeless man in LA with half a potato chip who doesn't feel that he is poor. >They will as there is no welfare safety net. You or you die. Of course there is charity, because people are generous - voluntarily. No. What you do is you mass organise to threaten the wealthy of society. If they do not give in, you then SIEZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION. >You're also implying that people would exclusively work to be wealthy When there is nothing in life that constantly reminds them that they are not working for their personal wealth, they are working out of enjoyment and the benefit it brings to others, people have no reason by to work for personal wealth. >When you have your community, why would you act against them ? Because I feel disenfranchised from the rich minority who I feel don't deserve the wealth they have since I have nothing to tell me otherwise. >They'd physically remove you if you did They'd physically remove the wealthy. Majority of people will always fall into the poor class when we resort to nature to tell us how to feel. >Since there is no class, there can't be class conflict. You're genuinely retarded. Class exists because people feel they belong to a class of society because humans naturally gravitate to a state of lowest entropy. If artificial intervention isn't in place, that will lead to class conflict. >Your misconception about ancap is that, because it terms ""capitalism"" there would be a shitton of megacorps, monopolies and cartels an shiet It's neo-fuedalism you nigger. > The market and the people will ensure that there would virtually no such things PCMs don't exist faggot. Externalities exist. Monopolies exists naturally. Opportunity cost exist. Boundaries to entry and exist exist. ANCAP is all based off the principles that PCMs exist, they don't.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490700945 118635632,118660377,2017-03-28 11:37:42,i want to see a fully privatised city,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490701062 118635632,118660818,2017-03-28 11:42:39,">>118645348 This",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490701359 118635632,118660881,2017-03-28 11:43:19,">>118660196 1) the initiation of the use of force is immoral 2) the state is institutionalized violence 3)thus the state is immoral. that is ancap. all the speculatipn about what happens when we abandon centralized violence is redundant. i dont care and nobody can predict how society will organise. just stop stealing and forcing me to pay for shit i morally object to.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490701399 118635632,118660979,2017-03-28 11:44:24,">>118660196 You're such a dumb delusional faggot I can't believe I'm actually still answering you. Your feels don't define shit. Then you allow for gendermainstream faggotry as well, because feels. >No. What you do is you mass organise to threaten the wealthy of society. If they do not give in, you then SIEZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION. Where the fuck am I saying to threaten the wealthy ? Are you a retard with sub-preschool reading comprehension ? Holy shit. >Because I feel disenfranchised from the rich minority who I feel don't deserve the wealth they have since I have nothing to tell me otherwise And there we have it. ""IZ OHL DAJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"" in disguise. >They'd physically remove the wealthy. Majority of people will always fall into the poor class when we resort to nature to tell us how to feel. Noone is ever telling you - not now an not in a hypothetical ancap society .. especially not there - how to feel. >It's neo-fuedalism you nigger. Aka ""I have no proper arguments anyway so I insult people"". You're either troll, in which case chapeau, I absolutely took the bait, or you're just plain idiot. Either way have a nice day, I'll stop talking to you now.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490701464 118635632,118661107,2017-03-28 11:45:57,">>118660196 >you mass organise to threaten the wealthy of society This is why democrats and commies need to be physically removed. >SIEZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION Not on my watch.",,Anonymous,Bronson.jpg,QeFBUAdnXLWUcCENr8uwXQ==,SI,,1490701557 118635632,118661159,2017-03-28 11:46:32,Heyo!,,Anonymous,1442623-1-L.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,PT,,1490701592 118635632,118661338,2017-03-28 11:48:21,">>118660881 >1) the initiation of the use of force is immoral Don't care. >2) the state is institutionalized violence Don't care >3)thus the state is immoral. Don't care I think the difference between Ancaps and Natsoc fundamentally is what we believe the role of the government should be. I believe the government is there to serve as an apparatus of maximising stability and happiness of its citizens at all times since economies do not function effectively without government intervention and societies do not function effectively without orderly hierarchy. >just stop stealing and forcing me to pay for shit i morally object to. I morally object to you not allowing me to steal from you. Thus I must steal from you otherwise it is immoral. >Pro Tip: Morals don't exist in Ancap land. Morals only exist in practice as a product of superior power.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490701701 118635632,118661477,2017-03-28 11:49:54,">>118657079 fucking brilliant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490701794 118635632,118661543,2017-03-28 11:50:37,">>118661159 Ayooo what's up!",,Anonymous,AncapBall.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1490701837 118635632,118661548,2017-03-28 11:50:41,">>118660101 A bit yes, but reading articles about people distrusting their governments, cryptocurrencies, free state projects and the fact that there *are* some people who recognize all this degeneracy around them makes me hopeful for the future. I hope a bunch of libertarians do a plan like the one in New Hampshire, where they all move there and then vote for libertarian values. But here we'd be armed to the teeth and demanding secession. Go Lega Nord! Go Flemish Action! Go Catalonia! Secession is the biggest wrench we can throw into the (((globalists'))) plans.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490701841 118635632,118661714,2017-03-28 11:52:25,">>118661338 >economies do not function effectively without government intervention And what's your evidence for this? >orderly hierarchy Hierarchy doesn't disappear under ancap. Why should someone elected by the mob deserve more respect than someone who is productive and furthers the community?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490701945 118635632,118661763,2017-03-28 11:52:55,">>118661338 >Morals don't exist in Ancap land. Morals only exist in practice as a product of superior power. morality only exists when there is choice and you can compare possible actions to idealized standards. when there is force there is no morality. your argument self-destructs, you fail and all you have is ""b b b but might makes right"" you hypocritical socialist. your system is shit, your excuses are shit and your ""arguments"" are so weak that you need a gun to convince others. pretty standard socialist stuff desu :)",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490701975 118635632,118661863,2017-03-28 11:54:05,No one on /pol/ is a libertarian unless they agree that Trump is a cuck and his voters are the most cucked of all.,,Anonymous,IMG_4411.jpg,3bFcnZ8xu06Z0Y4Cx/9INA==,GB,,1490702045 118635632,118661876,2017-03-28 11:54:14,">>118635632 Was just listening to some Tom Woods. Pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzW2RLxrZN8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490702054 118635632,118661901,2017-03-28 11:54:37,"Most prosperous economies of the 20th century: >Nazi Germany (socialist) >Libya (socialist) >USA (mixed market / corporatist [not capitalist]) >EU as a whole (mixed market) Well? inb4 MY VERSION OF CAPITALISM HASNT BEEN TRIED There's a reason why no one attempts capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490702077 118635632,118662015,2017-03-28 11:55:50,">>118650175 >the minimum wage in its origins was proposed as a policy for eugenics in 19th century England I'm gonna need a sauce for that",,Anonymous,1477403780855.jpg,NQmlz92zjO275UVhrwz//g==,US,,1490702150 118635632,118662127,2017-03-28 11:56:54,">>118661901 Those places are all shit holes now.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490702214 118635632,118662141,2017-03-28 11:57:02,">>118661863 Trump shipped in and married the hottest piece of first lady possible >you might want to understand what the word cuck means. >yes trump is flawed. flawed is the human condition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490702222 118635632,118662191,2017-03-28 11:57:44,">>118660979 >Your feels don't define shit. Yes they do. Just saying they don't doesn't mean they go away. If I feel I want to fuck your boi pussy, saying that my feels don't matter doesn't actually mean I won't rape you. I still will rape you whether my feels matter to you or not. The question is are my feels important? When they directly result in action instead of whining, yes they do. >Then you allow for gendermainstream faggotry as well, because feels. No I don't. I care about feels which actually matter. Feels of class do matter whether you like it or not. Gender faggots don't matter and they can go to a gas chamber because they disturb the stability of society if they don't want to seek help. >Where the fuck am I saying to threaten the wealthy ? Man you're an idiot. I'm putting a proposition to your statement as to demonstrate that there is more than ""do or die"" as a solution to your work or starve scenario. That being class conflict. >And there we have it. ""IZ OHL DAJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"" in disguise. Just saying it doesn't make the feelings go away. You're not actually making an argument. I'm demonstrating that without an artificial intervention people will always blame those with more influence and power for their problems. Thus creating class conflict. >noone is every telling you... especially not there - how to feel. I didn't say someone was telling me. I am describing how natural ingroup referencing works and the underdog empathy effect. >Aka ""I have no proper arguments anyway so I insult people"". Neo-fuedalism is an argument. That is also rich to the guy who said >dumb delusional faggot > sub-preschool reading comprehension ? Holy shit. > ""IZ OHL DAJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"" >troll >plain idiot. >I'll stop talking to you now. ""Wah wah I can't handle my Mircoeconomics 101 course education getting demolished."" Your arguments are shit.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490702264 118635632,118662252,2017-03-28 11:58:23,">>118661901 >Nazi Germany couldn't last 12 years >Lybia bombed the fuck out >USA the more regulations the more it's shitty >EU will die soon",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490702303 118635632,118662309,2017-03-28 11:58:59,">>118661901 >confusing wealth and prosperity with happiness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490702339 118635632,118662437,2017-03-28 12:00:07,">>118661901 Europe is just socialism with capitalism allowed.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490702407 118635632,118662477,2017-03-28 12:00:39,">>118662191 class is a concept does not change one's moral category. theft is always immoral. rape is always immoral.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490702439 118635632,118662776,2017-03-28 12:03:51,">>118661901 The free market turned the US into an economic superpower. GDP per capita is correlated to economic freedom. The freer the economy the faster the development. Don't know a lot about Nazi Germany but didn't their growth come from ignoring restrictions placed on them by the winners of ww1? And they did take on a lot of debt, right? It's easy to look successful on paper when you take loans to start building war machines. Spending 10% of GDP on military spending is in no way sustainable. It just looks like growth on paper.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490702631 118635632,118662791,2017-03-28 12:03:57,">>118661714 >And what's your evidence for this? Corporate monopolies exist. Perpetual poverty exists. >Why should someone elected by the mob deserve more respect than someone who is productive and furthers the community? I'm not advocating democracy here. Heirarchy does disappear under ancap because as soon as heirarchy is established, a state is established. >>118661763 >you can compare possible actions to idealized standards. Who decides idealized standards in ancap? >when there is force there is no morality I say there is. Who's going to stop me? >""b b b but might makes right"" you hypocritical socialist. Might does make right. Whether you like it or not. >your system is shit, your excuses are shit and your ""arguments"" are so weak that you need a gun to convince others. Violence or the threat of violence is a necessary means to maximise happiness and stability of those in the community who do not wish to commit violence to gain their earnings. The only people who care about violence used to enforce the rules of society which are there to maximise stability and happiness are those who wish to abuse society for their own personal gain at the expense of happiness and stability for those within society.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490702637 118635632,118662834,2017-03-28 12:04:20,"You all hating on capitalism which is a system that rewards smart people who know what the people (customers) need and gives to them for a prize, that is pretty small if the company has competition .",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490702660 118635632,118662931,2017-03-28 12:05:08,">>118662477 >theft is always immoral. rape is always immoral. Moral universalism doesn't exist. Morals are subjective by definition. If I steal a loaf of bread from a rich man to feed my starving family, am I immoral?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490702708 118635632,118663127,2017-03-28 12:07:11,">>118662931 whoever you are stealing you are still stealing dying of hunger or not that's a mean but not justify the case",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490702831 118635632,118663147,2017-03-28 12:07:20,"Guys, I'm making a new and updated pastebin. What books do you recommend me adding that are still missing? So far I got Econ. in 1 Lesson by Hazlitt and The Ethics of Liberty by Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490702840 118635632,118663253,2017-03-28 12:08:32,">>118662791 >Might does make right. Whether you like it or not. of course you can live accordingly. universal moral principles are objective and optional, like the scientific method. you are like a physicist searching for answers by interpreting patterns in fish intestines. it is your life choice, im not gonna take offence by that. but if you abandon all logic and reason, dont complain when your ideas keep failing, when you keep getting rejected. choices and consequences.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490702912 118635632,118663313,2017-03-28 12:09:07,">>118663147 If you update it I will update the current one to your new standard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490702947 118635632,118663387,2017-03-28 12:09:44,">>118662791 >Corporate monopolies exist. Concrete examples. The US had a free market so it shouldn't be hard for you to find some. >Perpetual poverty exists. The best way to make life better for poor people in the long run is the free market. There is no better way to lift people out of actual poverty than capitalism. Get a socialist and a capitalist state side by side and in decades the ""poor"" people in the capitalist countries will look like lords to socialists. >as soon as heirarchy is established, a state is established. In a society of ancap as soon as someone preaches in favour of a state, why wouldn't they shun him? There's plenty of bigshots around, why listen to an asshole who uproots their society instead of furthers it?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490702984 118635632,118663463,2017-03-28 12:10:23,">>118663253 >universal moral principles are objective and optional, like the scientific method I can repeat the scientific method and get the same outcome that is why it's objective. I can repeat a moral principle and get a different outcome, that is why it's subjective and cannot be universal. >but if you abandon all logic and reason, dont complain when your ideas keep failing, when you keep getting rejected. You haven't actually told me why using force is immoral.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490703023 118635632,118663484,2017-03-28 12:10:33,">>118663313 I'm just gonna add some funny videos to the OP besides the Hoppewave videos (like those videos of Hoppe making Schnitzel, leftists being physically removed by cops, all the dubbed song covers, etc.)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490703033 118635632,118663601,2017-03-28 12:11:29,">>118663313 Also what about also making a Rothbard Reading List?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490703089 118635632,118663620,2017-03-28 12:11:37,"GENTLEMEN..... WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MEMES?!?!?!?!?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490703097 118635632,118663664,2017-03-28 12:12:03,,,Anonymous,1485697247303.jpg,CDSVSaFpbcuJryIoljE6Cw==,US,,1490703123 118635632,118663686,2017-03-28 12:12:14,">>118663620 The meme market crashed.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490703134 118635632,118663720,2017-03-28 12:12:38,">>118662776 >GDP per capita is correlated to economic freedom. The freer the economy the faster the development. True, but having a strong democratic government doesn't infringe on economic freedom. Note that countries with high amounts of economic freedom tend to be democratic whereas the opposite is true for countries with low amounts of economic freedom. >>118663387 >The US had a free market so it shouldn't be hard for you to find some. The US government started breaking up monopolies almost as soon as country-wide monopolies became a thing. That's why there aren't many examples.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490703158 118635632,118663743,2017-03-28 12:12:49,">>118663686 fuck... I had stocks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490703169 118635632,118663749,2017-03-28 12:12:53,">>118663620 thread went full flame war",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490703173 118635632,118663892,2017-03-28 12:14:09,">>118663387 >The US had a free market so it shouldn't be hard for you to find some. Rockefeller. >The best way to make life better for poor people in the long run is the free market. There is no better way to lift people out of actual poverty than capitalism Show me the economics theory. Now explain why poverty exists in capitalist societies. >In a society of ancap as soon as someone preaches in favour of a state, why wouldn't they shun him? Because there is no heirarchy or superior power to tell them that what that person is preaching is wrong or immoral. >There's plenty of bigshots around, why listen to an asshole who uproots their society instead of furthers it? Why listen to Lenin? Why listen to Hitler? Why listen to Napoleon? Because you like what they say and you know no better.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490703249 118635632,118663986,2017-03-28 12:15:03,">>118663892 No one will change any other's opinion anyway, stop",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490703303 118635632,118664107,2017-03-28 12:16:16,">>118663484 Alright bro. I was thinking, that strategy book hoppe recommended to that anon a couple of nights back, is it worth adding to the reading list? https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490703376 118635632,118664218,2017-03-28 12:17:14,">>118663986 I'm not trying to change their opinions. I enjoy discussing things with people. It gives me a deeper understanding of my own views. Here's a meme.",,Anonymous,1480765450317.jpg,2l1R2hzf+JEeKuUeBaOg0A==,AU,,1490703434 118635632,118664229,2017-03-28 12:17:18,">>118663749 such is the cost of portraying intelligent ideas that rock the boat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490703438 118635632,118664246,2017-03-28 12:17:25,">>118664107 I'm not sure although if based God Hoppe recommended it himself then yeah, sure. I made this one in the meantime: https://pastebin.com/nWHgpGu6 You guys go ahead and edit it and add more stuff if you'd like",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490703445 118635632,118664260,2017-03-28 12:17:32,">>118662931 yes because theft is immoral. adherence to standards is optional. if universal morality does not exist, why are you debating me? by doing that, you show us that you believe in the existence of an ""objective truth"" and by correcting me, you show us that you want me to accept this objective truth that i fail to see. in other words, you are proposing that it would be better for me to agree with this truth. that is an example objective morality. just by the act of debating, you admit that such a thing exists. if you deny that, thats the same as saying ""i do not exist"". in other words. preferences exist, and some are better than others. some preferemces are objectively better than others, although still optional. like eating.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490703452 118635632,118664287,2017-03-28 12:17:44,">>118663601 Yeah I wanted to build a rothbard list I also wanted to dedicate another post to all related content, hoppewave, art, and things like that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490703464 118635632,118664326,2017-03-28 12:18:07,">>118663387 >In a society of ancap as soon as someone preaches in favour of a state, why wouldn't they shun him? Because chances are, this person who wants to make a new state would be a well-connected connected person to begin with. People who start new governments usually are. ""Shunning"" him wouldn't make a lick of difference because he already has enough connections and allies in place to be not affected by it. He has a loyal core of associates and followers who will support his actions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490703487 118635632,118664345,2017-03-28 12:18:16,">>118664218 this man is doing gods work. >flag. dear lord kill us now.",,Anonymous,1489149283012.png,5XBi1hNlKXZduRPSGElndg==,US,,1490703496 118635632,118664447,2017-03-28 12:19:19,"keep put on iq option now on memes, don't call unless you purchase under next 2 hours",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490703559 118635632,118664455,2017-03-28 12:19:23,">>118664260 >yes because theft is immoral. Why? >if universal morality does not exist, why are you debating me? Because I believe it does not exist. I want to verify to myself if it does or doesn't exist. You are a source of possible information as you are a person who has reasons to believe it does. I want you to tell me those reasons so that I can evaluate them and see if they're right for me. The rest of what you said was cancer.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490703563 118635632,118664459,2017-03-28 12:19:25,">>118635713 Libertarian right is the antithesis of communism. Get out of here with your silver tongued roadspeak you authoritarian faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490703565 118635632,118664475,2017-03-28 12:19:36,">>118663892 >Rockefeller. if he didn't lowered the prices on oil we would have more electric cars competition isn't only related to resources you have but the other ones also",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490703576 118635632,118664478,2017-03-28 12:19:39,">>118664326 >In a society of ancap",,Anonymous,Think Different.jpg,7Yv4GrIsdAvFOYDTsKXDTw==,US,,1490703579 118635632,118664598,2017-03-28 12:20:46,">>118664475 You need to work on your english because I can't understand what you're saying.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490703646 118635632,118664599,2017-03-28 12:20:46,We should do political compass memes,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490703646 118635632,118664634,2017-03-28 12:21:05,">>118663720 >having a strong democratic government doesn't infringe on economic freedom Dohoho. With the trend in governments seems the exact opposite is true. We'll see if the internet changes anything with less influence of mass media. >high amounts of economic freedom tend to be democratic The west takes after the US. The US had heavy restrictions on voting rights when it was still a free market. The more people you enfranchise the worse it gets. >The US government started breaking up monopolies I talked about railways before. There wasn't a monopoly until the government started regulating the market, preventing entry and then the companies became a cartel. Until then the prices were getting lowered and progress was steady. Even under a monopoly situation they still have to be mindful of emergent competition and loss of reputation. And tell me how does a government actually break up monopolies? Why don't these broken up companies just become cartels then?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490703665 118635632,118664666,2017-03-28 12:21:31,">>118663463 you can repeat an experiment, and get different results. this dies not invalidate the scientific method. any theory has to be consistent, as reality is consistent. that also applies to ethics. a rock cannot fall in monday but fliat into space on tuesday, a theory that suggest this is internally inconsistent thus invalid. theft cannot be moral for you, but immoral fir me. such a theory is also inconsistent and invalid. thus all moral theories must adhere to logic, and be universal. all other moral theorues are invalid.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490703691 118635632,118664710,2017-03-28 12:21:55,">>118664478 An impossible construct. No matter what, a state WILL come into being. It cannot be prevented. It will simply happen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490703715 118635632,118664909,2017-03-28 12:23:43,">>118644341 New Hampshires never going to be ultraconservative because we value individual liberties too much to become a christian nanny state. The liberals need to be removed because they want more government and more taxes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490703823 118635632,118665013,2017-03-28 12:24:47,">>118664666 >you can repeat an experiment, and get different results Then you cannot say that the outcome and therefore the science behind the outcome is objectively correct. > theft cannot be moral for you, but immoral fir me Yes it can. Bread scenario. >thus all moral theories must adhere to logic, and be universal Logic must be valid and consistent. Universal morals do not exist because they do not satisfy that criteria.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490703887 118635632,118665029,2017-03-28 12:24:56,">>118664455 >yes because theft is immoral. >Why? because fir theft to be moral, there has to be a victim. this victim has to resist, or else it wouldnt be theft. so in order to enable virtue, someone else has to resist virtue at the same time. this is illogical and thus invalid.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490703896 118635632,118665038,2017-03-28 12:25:00,">>118664598 in the automobile industry Rockefeller could lost everything if he didn't lowered the prices on oil because he had competition with proto-electric cars,ergo even when you have a monopoly on one domain you still have competition on the others for ensuring yourself to be at the top",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490703900 118635632,118665198,2017-03-28 12:26:23,">>118665029 >because fir theft to be moral, there has to be a victim Why?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490703983 118635632,118665296,2017-03-28 12:27:23,">>118665013 >Universal morals do not exist because they do not satisfy that criteria. that sentence eats itself. all you are saying is that IF a moral theory wants to be valid, it HAS to be consistent and logical. i 100% agree. see my previous reply.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490704043 118635632,118665305,2017-03-28 12:27:26,">>118665038 >ergo even when you have a monopoly on one domain you still have competition on the others for ensuring yourself to be at the top And? This does not mean that he didn't have a monopoly on oil.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490704046 118635632,118665361,2017-03-28 12:27:55,">>118665198 because there isn't consent on the two being interacting,the not consenting one is the victim",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490704075 118635632,118665440,2017-03-28 12:28:35,">>118665296 >all you are saying is that IF a moral theory wants to be valid, it HAS to be consistent and logical Which is isn't. See bread problem. I steal a loaf of bread from a rich man to feed my starving family.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490704115 118635632,118665490,2017-03-28 12:29:00,">>118665361 >because there isn't consent on the two being interacting,the not consenting one is the victim Why does that make something moral or not?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490704140 118635632,118665498,2017-03-28 12:29:02,">>118665198 theft is not theft if i let you steal. rape is not rape if the victim expresses consent. do you understand that?",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490704142 118635632,118665607,2017-03-28 12:30:10,">>118665440 so what? that does not make theft moral.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490704210 118635632,118665633,2017-03-28 12:30:21,,,Anonymous,1485957098750.jpg,O6vyDK+6y2pVDNvbYmai/A==,US,,1490704221 118635632,118665672,2017-03-28 12:30:42,">>118665305 if he crashed you wouldn't need the anti-trust laws competition is inevitable",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490704242 118635632,118665725,2017-03-28 12:31:07,">>118664634 >The more people you enfranchise the worse it gets. No evidence for that. Switzerland is ranked number 4 in world economic freedom despite being the closest thing to a real ""pure"" direct democracy. 1 is Hong Kong. 2 is Singapore. 3 is New Zealand. 5 is Australia. All democracies. None of these places have any unusual restrictions on who is allowed to vote.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490704267 118635632,118665731,2017-03-28 12:31:11,">>118663892 >Rockefeller. Also provided a much better service than anyone else. >Armentano concludes from the record that “at the very pinnacle of Standard’s industry ‘control,’ the costs and the prices for refined oil reached their lowest levels in the history of the petroleum industry.” Yea, sounds awful. >Show me the economics theory. If the economy grows the works even if they are paid exactly the same can buy more. Common sense. >heirarchy or superior power >A hierarchy (from the Greek hierarchia, ""rule of a high priest"", from hierarkhes, ""leader of sacred rites"") is an arrangement of items (objects, names, values, categories, etc.) in which the items are represented as being ""above,"" ""below,"" or ""at the same level as"" one another. So basically order of importance. You definitely have important people under ancap. Why would they need to coerce people to have their respect? >Why listen to Lenin? Why listen to Hitler? Because desperate people after ww1 thought they needed a saviour. And governments started ww1. >Why listen to Napoleon? Because soldiers have an incentive to listen to competent commanders. More soldiers would be employed by a state than an insurance company, I think.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490704271 118635632,118665764,2017-03-28 12:31:30,">>118665490 because nobody want to be robbed golden rule mothafucka",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490704290 118635632,118665824,2017-03-28 12:32:05,">>118665498 >theft is not theft if i let you steal. Yes it is. I can let you steal my bread because I feel I don't need it. But then suddenly I feel I do need it, that is technically still my property and you have now stolen even though I let you steal it. Or even better, the bread is so insignifcant to me that I don't notice you stole it. You still haven't explain why having a victim is necessity to morals? The bread problem is still relevant. Am I a victim if my family starves to death because the wealthy man won't give me some bread?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490704325 118635632,118665984,2017-03-28 12:33:35,,,Anonymous,1486941217620.png,fu3OGRB0yXnZTVbEjEDlsA==,US,,1490704415 118635632,118665990,2017-03-28 12:33:37,">>118665824 >Yes it is. I can let you steal my bread because I feel I don't need it. then there consent and the guy gets the bread all the rest are the consequences of your actions",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490704417 118635632,118666077,2017-03-28 12:34:27,,,Anonymous,Trapsman.webm,ay9IHZ8fmkAsaMFBWDV3fA==,US,,1490704467 118635632,118666091,2017-03-28 12:34:43,">>118665607 Jumping in. Take a deontological case like the 10 commandments - say, thou shalt not lie. So when the axe murderer asks where my kids are hiding, I tell him. I acted in accordance with the law, but did I act morally?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490704483 118635632,118666100,2017-03-28 12:34:46,">>118665607 ""Theft"" is only a real thing because the government defines what private property is and has developed a list of rules for determining who owns what and how ownership can be lawfully transferred. The government also has mechanisms in place to punish people who break those rules. This is the entire basis for private property. Without government, it would be impossible to claim ""ownership"" of anything that isn't immediately within your reach.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490704486 118635632,118666151,2017-03-28 12:35:18,">>118666077 There's one on the left who gets it's skull crushed by the trap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490704518 118635632,118666212,2017-03-28 12:35:53,">>118665607 >so what? that does not make theft moral. Doesn't make it immoral either. See we're getting somewhere. >>118665672 Doesn't mean monopolies don't exist. >>118665731 >Also provided a much better service than anyone else. Still means monopolies exist. >Yea, sounds awful. See above. >If the economy grows the works even if they are paid exactly the same can buy more. Common sense. That's not economic theory. >You definitely have important people under ancap Then ancap doesn't exist. As soon as one persons word is above that of anothers, a state is then formed defact. >Because desperate people after ww1 thought they needed a saviour. And governments started ww1. Ancap inevitable results in government. That doesn't address what I said after, nothing stops people from thinking what they say is a good idea. >>118665764 Why does that make something moral or not? I don't want to be poor, therefore me stealing is not immoral since I am remedying my wants as a human.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490704553 118635632,118666303,2017-03-28 12:36:45,">>118666100 >""Theft"" is only a real thing because the government defines what private property is and has developed a list of rules for determining who owns what and how ownership didn't knew Hebrews on the desert were a government",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490704605 118635632,118666365,2017-03-28 12:37:23,"Why do so many Libertarians have autism? reason.com/blog/2011/07/20/being-libertarian-may-cause-au www.zerothposition.com/2016/07/22/an-overview-of-autistic-libertarianism/ https://www.quora.com/Are-there-disproportionately-many-libertarians-with-Aspergers-Syndrome-If-so-why https://reece.liberty.me/an-overview-of-autistic-libertarianism/ www.autismpolicyblog.com/2012/10/libertarians-and-autism.html",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1490704643 118635632,118666411,2017-03-28 12:37:46,">>118665990 >then there consent and the guy gets the bread all the rest are the consequences of your actions No it isn't. I haven't consented to it, I just chose to ignore it. If I see people stealing and I chose to ignore it, I myself am not guilty of the action of stealing. Just the same, I am not guilty of the action of consent. It is indifference. You also didn't address the fact that what if the bread is so insiginficant, I don't notice it is gone.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490704666 118635632,118666446,2017-03-28 12:38:07,">>118666303 >didn't knew Hebrews on the desert were a government They had a king and their own laws, so yeah that definitely sounds like a primitive government to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490704687 118635632,118666574,2017-03-28 12:39:19,">>118666151 and thats the problem with an authoritarian government. >there is always one whose skull is crushed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490704759 118635632,118666627,2017-03-28 12:39:49,>>118666574,,Anonymous,1489361820746.png,4Fi8+1R/fDo0nXbbM6DOMg==,US,,1490704789 118635632,118666692,2017-03-28 12:40:15,">>118665824 you seem to be very proud that you found a situation that is more of a gray area and not easily dismissible with black/white statements. look, i found a horse with 2 heads, that means the science of biology is made-up bullshit and invalid! agaon, if you ""let me steal"", it is not theft but a gift. obce you agreed to transfer if property, it is not yours anymore. is this really that complicated?",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490704815 118635632,118666741,2017-03-28 12:40:40,Political compass seen as an libertarian right capitalist.,,Anonymous,Theliberalright.png,Qs8Hb91zRK/tVGp2SZkk+A==,PL,,1490704840 118635632,118666768,2017-03-28 12:40:49,">>118666212 >Why does that make something moral or not? because if it wasn't the case everybody would kill each-other,but nobody want to die,unless you want to kill yourself,therefore murder isn't moral,everyone wants shit,but nobody wants that your shit is stolen,unless it's a donation,therefore theft is immoral and so on morality is all that combined >>118666411 who says nothing,consent",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490704849 118635632,118666798,2017-03-28 12:41:02,">>118666077 here is the terrifying thought i have with this. >how long till they just back to eating?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490704862 118635632,118666915,2017-03-28 12:42:12,">>118666446 before Israel kingdom",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490704932 118635632,118666944,2017-03-28 12:42:28,">>118666212 >Doesn't make it immoral either. yes it does, since theft is a preference that can be enforced - its not an aesthetic preference like ""being on time"". only those can be neutral",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1490704948 118635632,118667061,2017-03-28 12:43:26,">>118635632 Can you faggots explain to me how one can help the poor from a libertarian point of view? Here in Portugal, we have free healthcare and I wonder how you can defend people dying of some illness just cause they couldn't afford to go to the hospital... I'd like to be a libertarian but I can't bring myself to forget my humanity and leave innocent people to die. Is there a solution to this problem without getting government involved?",,Anonymous,15879183_783308555165726_88516403_n.png,Thh9o45VJG7JC2LcQZ4RZw==,PT,,1490705006 118635632,118667150,2017-03-28 12:44:14,">>118666212 So it's bad just because it's a monopoly despite having none of the problems you scare people with when you use the word? >That's not economic theory. So economic growth is meaningless to you? >As soon as one persons word is above that of anothers, a state is then formed defact. Non-sense. If a society decides they want ancap then that's what they'll have. Kings and emperors fell because society wanted them to. >nothing stops people from thinking what they say is a good idea And nothing is stopping people from thinking democracy is a good idea. What's your point? Yea a libertarian society gonna survive with a bunch statists. Guess why? Cause it's not a libertarian society then. >>118665725 >No evidence for that. See pic.",,Anonymous,US spending percentage of GDP.png,rA/NIzINxvhC9BsowPBHpg==,SI,,1490705054 118635632,118667169,2017-03-28 12:44:24,">>118666692 >you seem to be very proud that you found a situation that is more of a gray area and not easily dismissible with black/white statements Yes I am. Because if I found a grey area, therefore moral univeralism does not fucking exist. Univeralism states that something can always be categorised. You have said that something either falls into moral or not moral because moral univeralism exists. Your categories have failed and therefore you theory has failed. >ook, i found a horse with 2 heads, that means the science of biology is made-up bullshit and invalid! Biology can explain a 2 headed horse. Biology doesn't say ""A horse must have one head or it isn't a horse."" You have said that something is either moral or immoral. By finding a grey area, your entire theory is incorrect because then things are subjective which violates the objective criteria of universalism. >obce you agreed to transfer if property, it is not yours anymore I haven't agreed to transfer property. I can still claim that property back at any time I want. Your entire theory is shit and you admitted it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490705064 118635632,118667188,2017-03-28 12:44:37,">>118665607 its the infringement that makes it either moral or Amoral.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490705077 118635632,118667262,2017-03-28 12:45:26,new thread when?,,Anonymous,8's.png,iyF/FPAFRiwA1gval5KMjg==,US,,1490705126 118635632,118667398,2017-03-28 12:46:45,">>118666768 >because if it wasn't the case everybody would kill each-other,but nobody want to die,unless you want to kill yourself,therefore murder isn't moral,everyone wants shit,but nobody wants that your shit is stolen,unless it's a donation,therefore theft is immoral and so on Ah okay. So morality is whatever you want to define it as, and therefore moral universalism does not fucking exist. >who says nothing,consent If I have sex with a girl who is passed out, that's not consent despite her not objecting. That's indifference. She still reserves the right to give or not give consent for the sexual encounter. >>118666944 >yes it does, since theft is a preference that can be enforced We already establish your theory is total bullshit. We found the grey area.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490705205 118635632,118667533,2017-03-28 12:48:05,">>118635632 >>118635649 >>118635711 ancap threads best threads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490705285 118635632,118667555,2017-03-28 12:48:20,">>118667061 what kind of people are dying? >those lung cancer from smoking >diabetics >old socialists who sold out our empire >hippies with drug problems and HIV >illegals >niggers These can go in the trash for all I care. They caused their own problems.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490705300 118635632,118667560,2017-03-28 12:48:22,">>118667150 >So it's bad just because it's a monopoly despite having none of the problems you scare people with when you use the word? Then it's not capitalism fuck nugget. >So economic growth is meaningless to you? Strawman. >Non-sense. If a society decides they want ancap then that's what they'll have. Kings and emperors fell because society wanted them to. Right, so what makes ancap any better than any other idealogy when it will just be another passing fad to end in flames? >And nothing is stopping people from thinking democracy is a good idea. What's your point? Ancap is not sustainable and will always end with society imploding.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490705302 118635632,118667562,2017-03-28 12:48:23,">>118635632 I'd just like to say libertarianism is a retarded fantasy with zero practical application for a large society--the ""live at let live"" libertarian mantra can only ever produce a citizenry completely unsuited to libertarianism--this philosophy only really exists as an intellectual abstraction, which is why it's espoused by giant walking calculators like Mises, who are great with logic and numbers, but fail miserably when it comes to understanding human nature (non-rational)--too much of a rationalist to be sensible. Cheers.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490705303 118635632,118667568,2017-03-28 12:48:30,">>118667150 Not exactly sure what that chart is meant to prove, other than that government spending spikes every time a war happen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490705310 118635632,118667582,2017-03-28 12:48:37,">>118667061 Charity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490705317 118635632,118667607,2017-03-28 12:48:53,">>118667061 In a free society, no one will stop you from helping the poor. If the poor are really your chief moral concern, then put your own money together with others and be charitable. There is nothing noble or moral about a bloated & inefficient government program. The whole point of libertarianism when it comes to helping the poor is that you will be free to give and what you want to help them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490705333 118635632,118667779,2017-03-28 12:50:39,">>118667555 Regardless, I'm sure there are people who were just unlucky, what about them?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490705439 118635632,118667924,2017-03-28 12:52:14,">>118667398 >Ah okay. So morality is whatever you want to define it as, and therefore moral universalism does not fucking exist. it exists ""One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated"" and it include murder,rape,theft,tl;dr aggression >If I have sex with a girl who is passed out, that's not consent despite her not objecting. if you HAVE the capacity to consent",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490705534 118635632,118668042,2017-03-28 12:53:30,">>118667607 >>118667582 Giving to the poor will not be enough because there aren't enough people giving and inevitably people will still suffer and die. So I'm guessing you won't be able to help them through your ideology? I think it's better to tax people and save lives than let people die just for the sake of not taxing people.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490705610 118635632,118668153,2017-03-28 12:54:37,">>118667150 >Yea a libertarian society gonna survive with a bunch statists. I'm going to interject here and point out that most prominent IRL libertarians have supported the idea of a limited government and shunned the idea that total statelessness was even a desirable or even feasible idea. The only way to have a truly stateless society would be to reduce the population density to such a degree that there are not enough people to form a government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490705677 118635632,118668155,2017-03-28 12:54:38,">>118664246 Just read the pastebin now, looks pretty good. also i it was just a screenshot of an email supposedly from hoppe, the email was blurred so theres no telling for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490705678 118635632,118668249,2017-03-28 12:55:50,">>118667560 >Then it's not capitalism >private property and trade isn't capitalism >Not understanding how economic growth works means my argument is a strawman >so what makes ancap any better than any other idealogy Prosperity and freedom. >will always end with society imploding Why? It's governments that brainwash people into thinking wars and giving more power to the government are a good thing. Those ideas are incredibly dangerous. And now you have superpowers electing sociopaths with the finger on the trigger for a nuclear holocaust. Why the fuck is this a good idea? >>118667568 >Not exactly sure what that chart is meant to prove Fine, ignore the growth of spending and people voting themselves benefits.",,Anonymous,1434469884582.jpg,7BchDDnAd+0nPwgWHWEIbQ==,SI,,1490705750 118635632,118668263,2017-03-28 12:56:00,">>118668042 Private charities generally are more efficient.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490705760 118635632,118668364,2017-03-28 12:56:54,">>118667924 >it exists Prove it. You have failed at literally every single turn to provide any evidence that morals are objective. I'll throw this situation back at you, I am a wealthy man, a poor man unbeknown to me, steals a loaf of bread. I take no notice of this because I have thousands of loafs of bread and could not identify if I have lost one or not. Is the poor man immoral? >if you HAVE the capacity to consent Explain why consent is necessary for something to be moral. How do I measure consent if morals are objective? If something is objective it must be measurable.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490705814 118635632,118668476,2017-03-28 12:57:54,">>118668263 Private charities won't save someone who is dying of an illness and can't pay for the treatment... And yes, I know that some people are to blame for getting into a situation where they might contract a life threatening illness but there are people who literally did nothing to deserve that stuff and I can't be so inhumane to just forget about them.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490705874 118635632,118668479,2017-03-28 12:57:54,">>118667061 Health care prices would substantially come down not just here but everywhere if we took the libertarian approach, which is to abolish all monopoly privileges (legislation) imposed by the state, in case of healthcare licences, practice fees, state-mandated standards, taxes on the medical service, etc. Of course at first there'd be some schmucks who'd kill a patient or two during operation, but those could be sued by the victims' families, lose their jobs and customers permanently, and go to jail for murdering someone (which was not in the contract). You'd also have multiple ""Certified"" companies springing up to judge and research the best medical care companies, etc. In the end it all works out fine. Everyone would have their healthcare and cheap drugs (no IP or parents after all). Those who were the absolute poorest would of course still have to rely on family, friends and community services to help them, but the main point is that yes, there is a solution for healthcare without government. >I'd like to be a libertarian but I can't bring myself to forget my humanity and leave innocent people to die. Governments are the biggest murderers of humans of all time.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490705874 118635632,118668507,2017-03-28 12:58:11,">>118668042 let me put it to you this; I do Habitat for Humanity with the Knights of Columbus over in poor white trash areas in Appalachian mountains. That charity alone has done more than government program. And you know what? I and others do it all for free on our own time. I find it a bit histrionic if you're gonna say that unless their existed certain government programs that have only been around for a few decades, poor people would be dying in the streets. As if society couldn't function without this recent program.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490705891 118635632,118668620,2017-03-28 12:59:13,">>118668364 >Prove it just said it ""One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated"" stop dodging faggot >Explain why consent is necessary for something to be moral. because it's the basis of the golden rule which is the basis of all morals",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490705953 118635632,118668723,2017-03-28 13:00:05,">>118668249 >>private property and trade isn't capitalism >The only necessary conditions of capitalism are private property and trade Therefore national socialism is capitalism. >>Not understanding how economic growth works means my argument is a strawman When someone asks you the question ""Give me the economic theory"" and you spout ""MUH ECONOMIC GROWTH"" you haven't actually provided the evidence requested. You have no evidence to actually prove the economic growth is caused by what you're claiming. An economic theory would make your claim more justifiable. Hence why you spouting ""MUH ECONOMIC GROWTH"" is a strawman because you're attempting to redirect the argument. >Prosperity and freedom. Define prosperity and freedom >Why? It's governments that brainwash people into thinking wars and giving more power to the government are a good thing. Prove they aren't. >Those ideas are incredibly dangerous. Prove it. >And now you have superpowers electing sociopaths with the finger on the trigger for a nuclear holocaust. Why the fuck is this a good idea? Democracy is a bad idea. I know this. That's not an argument for ancap.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490706005 118635632,118668731,2017-03-28 13:00:07,">>118668153 >most prominent IRL libertarians have supported the idea of a limited government Right, and they are clueless people that ignore what democracy really is. A mob. If you put your property rights up to a vote you're gonna lose them. >not enough people to form a government Pointless.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490706007 118635632,118668799,2017-03-28 13:00:45,">>118668042 Even with free healthcare, people still suffer and die because they didn't have access to the best treatment possible. It's just in the government's hands to decide who lives and who dies.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490706045 118635632,118668949,2017-03-28 13:02:25,">>118668620 >""One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated"" stop dodging faggot That's not fucking proof you stupid fucking frog. That's your fucking slogan. PROVE that slogan is OBJECTIVELY correct. Give me a measurable criteria. >because it's the basis of the golden rule which is the basis of all morals Says who? What objective measure is telling you this?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490706145 118635632,118669030,2017-03-28 13:03:15,">>118668723 >Therefore national socialism is capitalism. no because taxation,taxation is theft,it isn't property",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490706195 118635632,118669180,2017-03-28 13:04:51,">>118669030 Capitalism isn't anarcho capitalism retard.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490706291 118635632,118669191,2017-03-28 13:04:56,">>118668249 >Fine, ignore the growth of spending and people voting themselves benefits. Let's also ignore the fact that the most economically free countries are democratic then. That's just a coincidence. Let's also ignore the fact that the most economically un-free countries are the ones that shun democratic principles the most. Also just a coincidence. >>118668479 Lowering the cost of healthcare is pointless if the end result is that healthcare becomes utter shit. >>118668731 The most economically free countries are democracy/republics. This is a fact.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490706296 118635632,118669245,2017-03-28 13:05:30,">>118668723 >national socialism is capitalism Do I even need to explain this? >When someone asks you the question ""Give me the economic theory"" and you spout ""MUH ECONOMIC GROWTH"" you haven't actually provided the evidence requested. You have no evidence to actually prove the economic growth is caused by what you're claiming. An economic theory would make your claim more justifiable. Hence why you spouting ""MUH ECONOMIC GROWTH"" is a strawman because you're attempting to redirect the argument. Go read Austrian economics then you retard. Or Keynes even. Why do I even need to explain this? So dumb. >Define prosperity and freedom Are you fucking shitting me? >prove wars aren't good They're destructive? >Prove it. Nuclear holocaust? >That's not an argument for ancap. It is. If ancap works and it's better than democracy and autocracy how is that not an argument for ancap?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490706330 118635632,118669311,2017-03-28 13:06:15,">>118669191 >Let's also ignore the fact that the most economically free democratic countries are democratic then. Hurr durr",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490706375 118635632,118669437,2017-03-28 13:07:29,">>118669311 I'm not seeing any counter-argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490706449 118635632,118669531,2017-03-28 13:08:26,>>118669437,,Anonymous,Women's suffrage John Lott.png,Cq3Bh6xSzq/7r1IrxhYndw==,SI,,1490706506 118635632,118669538,2017-03-28 13:08:31,">>118668949 >That's not fucking proof you stupid fucking frog. >PROVE that slogan is OBJECTIVELY correct. Give me a measurable criteria go in the street,all around the world and ask them if they want you to kill them for no reasons and vice versa,nobody wants it unless they are suicidal,ergo they consent >Capitalism isn't anarcho capitalism retard. true capitalism is capitalism if we follow what the Slovene says",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490706511 118635632,118669641,2017-03-28 13:09:37,">>118669538 *true capitalism is anarco-capitalism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490706577 118635632,118669676,2017-03-28 13:09:59,">>118669245 >Do I even need to explain this? You gave the two criteria for capitalism. National Socialism fits that criteria, therefore its capitalism. >Go read Austrian economics then you retard. Or Keynes even. Why do I even need to explain this? So dumb. I'm an economics grad. I'm well versed in babbys political-economics. Give me a theory instead of strawmanning. ""MUH ECONOMIC GROWTH"" ""MUH SCHOOLS"" Everything but a shred of evidence. >Are you fucking shitting me? No. Those two things are extraordinarily subjective. Just pretending like the question is absurd doesn't make you right or make the question actually absurd. It just makes you appeal to stone. >They're destructive? And? How does that mean they're not good? >Nuclear holocaust? Argumentum Absurdium. I can just as easily say ancap results in nuclear holocaust therefore its bad. >It is. If ancap works and it's better than democracy and autocracy how is that not an argument for ancap? You haven't proven it works better than autocracy. I take democracy because I too believe democracy is bad. But that doesn't rule out everything but democracy including all other anarcho ideas.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490706599 118635632,118669740,2017-03-28 13:10:36,">>118669180 I would say it is, capitalism doesn't describe a government system. National socialists do believe in private property so I would consider that system as a form of regulated capitalism. But nowhere near ""muh true capitalism""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490706636 118635632,118669846,2017-03-28 13:11:36,">>118669531 The most economically free countries are democracy/republics. This is a fact, and trying to change the subject to women's suffrage doesn't change that. Women aren't allowed to vote in North Korea, yet this has not resulted in a country that is economically free.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490706696 118635632,118669861,2017-03-28 13:11:45,">>118669538 >go in the street,all around the world and ask them if they want you to kill them for no reasons and vice versa,nobody wants it unless they are suicidal,ergo they consent Argumentum ad populum is not an objective criteria. Give me a measurement. >nobody wants it unless they are suicidal,ergo they consent Is a person who is mentally ill able to consent? Whoops, found a grey area you humongous faggot. Therefore moral universalism does not exist.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490706705 118635632,118669976,2017-03-28 13:12:48,">>118669676 >I'm an economics grad Good to know they're letting complete morons graduate. State funded education probably.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490706768 118635632,118670039,2017-03-28 13:13:21,">>118669191 Just like [insert any modern invention] has started out awesome and cheap and becomes shittier and expensive over time amirite :^)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490706801 118635632,118670210,2017-03-28 13:14:43,">>118669846 Gonna need a source/evidence on this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490706883 118669369,118669369,2017-03-28 13:06:47,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) >Thread Tunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Hoppean Snake Memes EDITION,Anonymous,libertypol.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,SK,,1490706407 118669369,118669460,2017-03-28 13:07:41,">>118669369 GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,hsm agoristball war.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,SK,,1490706461 118669369,118669573,2017-03-28 13:08:51,,,Anonymous,hoppeart.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,SK,,1490706531 118669369,118669655,2017-03-28 13:09:51,"So, where my bad goys at? Bump for recreational napalm.",,Anonymous,commie tears.jpg,LRJpYNKvM3n9lqzyBUkVbw==,SK,,1490706591 118669369,118670766,2017-03-28 13:19:48,">>118669369 Put together a contra reading package with stuff like the Communist Manifesto",,Anonymous,ancap.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1490707188 118669369,118670991,2017-03-28 13:21:50,Get this bread goin',,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU2NjY4NjQ3My5qcGcifQ.jRA9sqm02dUhW5XpJf1z9xHGd00.jpg,pvmnkuUUzHNOvOX6gnelBg==,DE,,1490707310 118669369,118671048,2017-03-28 13:22:24,Present!,,Anonymous,1490438813370.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,PT,,1490707344 118669369,118671457,2017-03-28 13:26:04,"Daily reminder that National (((Socialism))). That's already it.",,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU1NTg5Mjc5My5qcGcifQ.t6nnLdG_Ar9hK0CIadRigLF6K7M.jpg,eldX4HxBIWW0NA8MF/7sFw==,DE,,1490707564 118669369,118671470,2017-03-28 13:26:12,">>118669369 >>118669976 You said ""the more people you enfranchise the worse it gets."" If this principle is correct, the North Korea should be the most economically free country on the planet. Instead, the opposite is true. South Korea is a democracy with full voting rights for everybody, yet it is much more free economically.",,Anonymous,1460591431395.jpg,ZEyOREIhdKovdaJaREag0Q==,US,,1490707572 118669369,118671648,2017-03-28 13:27:53,">>118671457 It's true, people compare Donald Trump to Hitler yet the latter was a Socialist, wasn't he?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490707673 118669369,118671664,2017-03-28 13:27:59,,,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1490707679 118669369,118671895,2017-03-28 13:30:26,">>118671648 Yes, Hitler was just a dirty little socialist ... literally",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490707826 118669369,118672840,2017-03-28 13:38:35,">>118669369 Damn bro you have the OP pic from my original lrg thread. You're fucking legit homes.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1490708315 118669369,118672930,2017-03-28 13:39:31,"sponsored by: some generous anon Otherwise Anatomy of the State and the Democracy - The God That Failed for educational purposes.",,Anonymous,1490563413200.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,DE,,1490708371 118669369,118672951,2017-03-28 13:39:41,">>118670766 I already got that in the reading list. Also snort stuff from Rothbard and other >BASED Jews.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490708381 118669369,118673027,2017-03-28 13:40:31,">>118669369 FREE HELICOPTER RIDES",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490708431 118669369,118673067,2017-03-28 13:40:51,"I'm leaning more and more towards anarcho-capitalism on most things, except I can't accept the ancap stance on national borders and defence. You can't have a nation without a national border, and you can't have the purest form of individual rights and then putting a border around ""our"" country. Is there any way to justify a national border as an ancap? Right now I would describe myself as a minarchist, but it seems very impure. I feel like a coward for saying ''well taxation is absolutely morally wrong but we still need a little of it''. I feel like I just need to cut to the chase and either become an ancap or kiss private property rights and the NAP goodbye.",,Anonymous,Block_0.jpg,//pA6qxmIqpvEmDh6R699w==,NL,,1490708451 118669369,118673125,2017-03-28 13:41:25,">>118671457 Debated some of them lately. They seem content with being drones for a larger group instead of being actual persons. Forget anything I said about letting them have a covenant, ultimately they're as expansionist as the commies.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490708485 118669369,118673334,2017-03-28 13:43:32,">>118673125 I know. My post was not just bait, I actually mean it. NS is a faggot ideology just the other maxist branches are.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490708612 118669369,118673468,2017-03-28 13:44:54,">>118671470 >Amerifat flag recognition And yet you wonder why people hate you. The flag you linked to? That's Slovenia with their cute Triglav and no based doublecross. Me, I'm Slovak, and although I like our little cousin in the south, I wouldn't want it any other way. Whatever, Kim Joke Un starves his people and they love him. Truly the laughing stock of the world. The ""democracy breeds collectivism"" argument is meant to be compared to monarchies and dictatorships that don't subscribe to any commie/Juche ideology.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490708694 118669369,118673616,2017-03-28 13:46:09,so how do you stop degeneracy?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490708769 118669369,118673623,2017-03-28 13:46:12,">>118673067 I can't answer your questions as I'm not inside anarcho-capitalism but I know that Hoppe has written extensively on Immigration and ""National"" Defense. If you search for it you'll easily find it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490708772 118669369,118673631,2017-03-28 13:46:21,">>118671648 Trump is more left-leaning than I'd like, but we need to break down the machine that props up the ZOG, and he's the perfect one for it. However, if he enacts socialist policies like the dumbass Spencer wants him to, he's going to fail.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490708781 118669369,118673666,2017-03-28 13:46:39,">>118673067 The property (commodity land) you own ends at some point in phsyical space, except you own the whole planet. That's where your principles start and the other's end. That's therefore the border of your microstate.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490708799 118669369,118673769,2017-03-28 13:47:34,">>118671470 Pretty sure South Korea is a corporatist style of governing just like Japan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490708854 118669369,118673781,2017-03-28 13:47:40,">>118673616 By excluding degenerates from your house, street, shop, etc. Form your covenant conservative communities.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490708860 118669369,118673823,2017-03-28 13:47:58,">>118673631 From a libertarians point of view there is literally nothing wrong with what ZOG does.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490708878 118669369,118673864,2017-03-28 13:48:25,,,Anonymous,1490555959619.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,US,,1490708905 118669369,118673942,2017-03-28 13:49:08,">>118673823 Explain.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490708948 118669369,118674043,2017-03-28 13:50:02,">>118672840 Fucking top shit, mate. The axe in the fasces should be an ICBM and it'd be the >bomb Yeah, fucking happy that your project took off. LET FREEDOM RING IN THE EARS OF OUR ENEMIES IN THE FORM OF MACHINE GUN FIRE PHYSICALLY REMOVE THOSE WHO INSULT HOPPE NUKE THOSE WHO INSULT ROTHBARD THROW THOSE WHO INSULT PINOCHET FROM HELICOPTERS",,Anonymous,nes-hiss-ary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,SK,,1490709002 118669369,118674111,2017-03-28 13:50:41,">>118673781 So whats stopping a city of degenerates from developing then influencing your children to be degenerate? I guess you can just lock your children in a cage. What happens when a child in that community becomes a land owner then becomes a degenerate? What happens when someone buys property in that community who is secretly a degenerate? How do you stop someone from selling a house to a degenerate? Your ideology only works with this silly idea that friendship magic power will save the day.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709041 118669369,118674179,2017-03-28 13:51:23,">>118673067 The national border is formed by the outside border of properties of individuals/communities of a single nation. Thus, there are going to be some enclaves and irregularities, but it's mostly the same because convenience.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490709083 118669369,118674270,2017-03-28 13:52:07,">>118673027 They're not free if you benefit from them in the long run.",,Anonymous,snek human rights.jpg,WzxOo1i9qyBbnLUcrz39jQ==,SK,,1490709127 118669369,118674272,2017-03-28 13:52:09,">>118674111 If he promotes degeneracy, he broke the covenant, therefore he is physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490709129 118669369,118674348,2017-03-28 13:52:52,">>118673769 In terms of economic freedom, South Korea is ranked 23, Japan is 40. North Korea is dead last at 180.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709172 118669369,118674419,2017-03-28 13:53:38,">>118673334 Yes. I used to think that they might be tolerated after the Great War to end all wars, but nah. They'll catch their breath and catch you with your pants down. Exterminate them and crush their slave hordes.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490709218 118669369,118674451,2017-03-28 13:53:51,">>118674043 Absolutely based, some will say that helicopter rides are not voluntary. But we know they agreed to the ride the second they showed their commie faces in ansnekistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709231 118669369,118674472,2017-03-28 13:54:03,">>118673942 Whats wrong with infiltrating all media and creating propaganda? Whats wrong with a group of extremely rich people pooling their resources to control every single aspect of your life?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709243 118669369,118674490,2017-03-28 13:54:12,">>118674272 And if the degenerates happen to come over and try to influence your children directly so to speak, they violated the NAP and you retaliate with recreational nukes",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490709252 118669369,118674593,2017-03-28 13:55:10,">>118674179 Doesn't this mean that it's basically open borders? Since everyone on the border with private property has the freedom of association, so they can invite whoever they want onto their property.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490709310 118669369,118674639,2017-03-28 13:55:36,">>118669369 Bump. Heil Hoppe.",,Anonymous,1486042630443.png,YkwBiOjxQGh6LHFvRRAeWQ==,RS,,1490709336 118669369,118674708,2017-03-28 13:56:15,">>118674272 But thats not libertarian at all. Thats called fascism. Unless of course you are so retarded you really think citizens will all team up together to remove degenerates that are harmless on a individual scale.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709375 118669369,118674714,2017-03-28 13:56:18,">>118674111 You're free to associate with people with your own ideals and free to exclude people with conflicting ideals. What's stopping all that from happening to Amish people right now? The fact that Amish do not put up with that shit. They don't sell their land to degenerates and they do not associate with degenerates. Government has little to nothing to d with morality.",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490709378 118669369,118674861,2017-03-28 13:57:41,">>118673616 Toss them into the street. They devalue all around them, they're a nuisance, a pest. Men ain't created equal.",,Anonymous,snek vs lolbertarian.png,UQq8tHZ+rIL1NpIdBq5KtA==,SK,,1490709461 118669369,118674882,2017-03-28 13:57:51,">>118674472 It's enhanced and pushed by the government, too. That's what's wrong with it. checkmate atheists >>118674593 No. If they try to step on your property and you happen not want to have them then they're committing an act of war and are phsyically removed. And if they happen to be part of your community already then it doesn't bother you anyway.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490709471 118669369,118674888,2017-03-28 13:57:54,">>118674490 All they did speak their mind? Do they not have free speech? So getting into an argument with someone is a violation of the NAP? You people are more retarded than communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709474 118669369,118675161,2017-03-28 14:00:21,">>118674708 So an ethostate is a nogo?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709621 118669369,118675207,2017-03-28 14:00:51,">>118674708 >>118674888 If he does it on your property then it ain't fascism. The point is not that they wouldn't be allowed to speak their mind. If they do it on their property, nothing's gonna stop them. If they start to influence your property (by destriction, throwing shit on your lawn so to speak) by that or would do it directly on your property and you're against that, then you're free to retaliate.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490709651 118669369,118675210,2017-03-28 14:00:54,">>118674888 There is no right to free speech in a community with dedication to an idea. If you oppose the covenant you aren't entitled to occupy it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709654 118669369,118675242,2017-03-28 14:01:18,">>118674714 >What's stopping all that from happening to Amish people right now? Nobody gives a shit about the amish. If they did you can bet your ass there wouldn't be any amish people around today. This is a horrible argument though by the way. >look this commune works therefore communism will work >look this amish community works therefore anarchism would work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709678 118669369,118675316,2017-03-28 14:01:54,">>118675161 see >>118675210 Your property, your rights and principles.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490709714 118669369,118675329,2017-03-28 14:01:59,">>118674348 North Korea Is best Korea",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709719 118669369,118675398,2017-03-28 14:02:33,">>118674861 > monarchist sympathizer /0",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1490709753 118669369,118675572,2017-03-28 14:03:59,">>118674882 No, what I mean is for example you have one crazy liberal living in your country who invites thousands upon thousands of muslims onto his own private property. So now you have thousands of Muslims in your country and there's nothing you can do about it, because they have the right to be there because they were invited into your crazy lib's private property. Also, these thousands of Muslims can now invite their friends and family over too.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490709839 118669369,118675573,2017-03-28 14:03:59,">>118675207 >If they do it on their property, nothing's gonna stop them Pretty easy to circumvent this supposed rule then. >>118674882 >If they try to step on your property and you happen not want to have them then they're committing an act of war and are phsyically removed. That's literally not any different than how the world works right now. If somebody is trespassing on your property, you can call the police and have them removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709839 118669369,118675636,2017-03-28 14:04:36,">>118675207 >If he does it on your property then it ain't fascism. Ok so whats stopping a bunch of super rich people from buying huge swaths of land than forcing people on it to pay rent while enforcing any laws they please? Oh no! this doesn't sound like paradise anymore! It must not be true libertarianism. So what about tv? If tv broadcasts a propaganda show is that a violation? Its like your mentally living in the middle ages. Hey everybody posting. This website is actually private property and if you don't stop you will be banned.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709876 118669369,118675746,2017-03-28 14:05:30,">>118669369 The most of the hoppeans on here want to throw blacks out of helis because they have a lower avarege iq. Should the ~25% of whites with a iq lower than the average blacks should be thrown out.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490709930 118669369,118675764,2017-03-28 14:05:34,">>118674861 Has Hoppe ever talked on about the principalities (micronations/states) in Europe?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490709934 118669369,118675917,2017-03-28 14:07:01,>it's not feudalism when we do it,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490710021 118669369,118676053,2017-03-28 14:08:10,">>118669369 Would take more seriously if you said ""the physical removal of Jews and communists""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710090 118669369,118676227,2017-03-28 14:09:40,">>118673823 >one world government >no chance to leave to another country >no guns or self defence >no voluntary association >degeneracy paid for by MY money >socialist policies >niggers running wild in the virgin nature of the Slovak Paradise - just that alone makes me want to murder something >no freedom at all YEAH I GUESS I'M VERY OKAY WITH THAT, I GUESS I'LL VOTE FOR ENSLAVEMENT JUST BECAUSE IT'S ""VIRTUOUS"" ENSLAVEMENT Fashies will be hammered against a wall that their precious taxes paid for.",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1490710180 118669369,118676256,2017-03-28 14:10:02,">>118675161 Not in a libertarian society. >>118675210 This is so retarded >be your ideal society >people start making more money than others >people start selling their property to survive cold winters >people start buying property and renting them out >Rich people give this property to their children >children buy even more property >starts setting rules for his property >hires military to enforce his rules >can kill anybody at any time for being on his property Congratulations its medieval Europe all over again. Have fun living in a monarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710202 118669369,118676418,2017-03-28 14:11:32,">>118675242 Amish is just the example that first came to my mind, but the point is the same. Government is not the source of morality, and people with similar morals with tend to group together. For example, communities with the best safety standards are safe because their members agree that killing and stealing is bad, they have high moral standards, not because there's a law agaist it. In the same way that whole cities with the highest crime rate are bad because their members have low morals and agree that stealing and killing are acceptable forms of enrichment, despite a law existing against it.",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490710292 118669369,118676476,2017-03-28 14:12:06,">>118673864 Saved, doing God's work anon.",,Anonymous,autistic screeching marx.jpg,r+R1HDIdRAW8ZuoTy8O4sw==,SK,,1490710326 118669369,118676550,2017-03-28 14:12:51,"For the ones on here that want a dictator to clean out the commies before establishing a stateless ancap society. Wont you fall into the same trap that Leninists and Maoists fall into when the dictator promises to step down but never does",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490710371 118669369,118676560,2017-03-28 14:12:54,">this thread Top cringe.",,Anonymous,1490680120288.png,hRch28jTgQXcrCfmAKqfMQ==,GB,,1490710374 118669369,118676642,2017-03-28 14:13:27,">>118676227 >buying all the property in the world is bad >not letting people enter your property is bad >not letting people to carry guns in your property is bad >not letting me pay for degeneracy with your rent money >not an argument >Not letting me choose who lives in my property >Not letting me enforce extreme rules on my property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710407 118669369,118676717,2017-03-28 14:13:58,">>118676256 But your whole point can be applied to anything (government system) such as, that goes on even today in our ""democratic"" society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710438 118669369,118676767,2017-03-28 14:14:24,">>118676418 >Government is not the source of morality Of course not. It is, however, the a wonderful instrument for enforcing morality. >and people with similar morals with tend to group together This is literally how governments form.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710464 118669369,118676805,2017-03-28 14:14:41,">>118675572 They are removed. >>118675636 >super rich People are free to buy or sell. But would people sell their land which is the basis of their existence ? There's no safety net. Either you have a house with a garden or you don't. I mean that doesn't mean that people couldn't by massive amounts of land somehow anyway, I just don't think that's something that would happen. But one thing is that they cannot force anyone unto that land. People are free. They can choose not to live there. Then their huge amounts of land backlash into economic disaster. Ergo they'd sell the land again and viola, free market. >tv No one has ""compulsory tv time"". If you cannot change the fact, turn the tv off or produce your own movies/series/whatever. I'm not mentally in middle ages.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490710481 118669369,118676950,2017-03-28 14:16:00,">>118674472 They do this by state control, given to them by their puppets (neo-libs and neo-cons) who were pushed there by the main media narrative and controlled opposition.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490710560 118669369,118677090,2017-03-28 14:17:11,">>118674639 Heil Hoppe indeed. One day, you shall remove kebab and have no ZOG to bomb you for it. Europa belongs to the Europeans, all of it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490710631 118669369,118677176,2017-03-28 14:17:50,">>118676418 >cities with the highest crime rate are bad because their members have low morals niggers. Its genetic Government is the only source of enforcing morality. What you are claiming is that not a single person will ever be greedy enough to ditch their morals. This is your claim. Not a single person will every give up on their morals for survival? Ok, again your a naive retard. For your system to work everybody has to be very moral to the point where they would rather die than live a traitor. This is not realistic at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710670 118669369,118677237,2017-03-28 14:18:19,">>118676805 regarding >>118675572: The point is that anything that violates your property rights is a violation of the NAP as the violation of property rights (assumed it was done maliciously) can be seen as expansionist attempt to undermine or damage you and your property and ultimately take it over.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490710699 118669369,118677254,2017-03-28 14:18:31,">>118669460 >private enemy number one kekd",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490710711 118669369,118677255,2017-03-28 14:18:31,">>118675398 As in preferring monarchy to democracy. It's slightly less shit, whichever way you take it. Like Hoppe said, most of the world's problems would not exist had monarchies remained dominant in the world.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490710711 118669369,118677274,2017-03-28 14:18:44,">>118676767 >needing governments to enforce morality It doesn't work as society today clearly shows that. I do agree with the second point on government formation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710724 118669369,118677286,2017-03-28 14:18:50,">>118676476 >le gods work You need to go back to redit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710730 118669369,118677333,2017-03-28 14:19:14,"Sorry (((Ancaps))), but you and I both know that land is very finite, and we all know the conclusions of your contrarian child's edgy meme ideology. Nice try though.",,Anonymous,1487602277348.png,Xkcj9hDLLSkdlkg5xfd+nw==,GB,,1490710754 118669369,118677383,2017-03-28 14:19:45,">>118676805 >I mean that doesn't mean that people couldn't by massive amounts of land somehow anyway, I just don't think that's something that would happen. It's utterly baffling that you'd think ""one guy owning shitloads of land"" is somehow an implausible scenario. That's basically how kingdoms start. One guy (and his family) controls a shitload of land, he declares himself king, and says that everybody within that land must pay him for the privilege of living there and follow whatever other laws he happens to come up with.",,Anonymous,1484166180897.jpg,dx8yzn7dgyLFBzPn4GUycw==,US,,1490710785 118669369,118677466,2017-03-28 14:20:26,">>118676767 The difference is, you'd be participating out of free will, and would be also free to go away or just keep dong your own thing in your property, not being coerced into someone's else morality, like now.",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490710826 118669369,118677494,2017-03-28 14:20:38,">>118675764 He mentioned Austro-Hungary both on the good and the bad side of it, the good being a traditional monarchy (it was quite lit when you weren't getting lit up by kebab terrorists - yes, even back then) and the bad being the FUCKING 14 NATIONS LIVING INSIDE OF IT. That's bound to fall, and it would regardless of the outcome of WWI.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490710838 118669369,118677583,2017-03-28 14:21:26,">>118677274 >It doesn't work as society today clearly shows that Generally speaking, it does, actually. It's generally very hard to steal from or kill other people without getting caught and thrown in jail.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710886 118669369,118677629,2017-03-28 14:21:50,">>118676717 >implying i like democracy >implying this will happen in a fascist society >implying this will happen in a constitutional monarchy. It won't because only one person truly owns property and this time we know who it is and we aren't pretending to be something we aren't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710910 118669369,118677661,2017-03-28 14:22:03,">>118675917 When there's competition among the princes, boy oh boy does their kindness and quality of protection increase if they can help it. Just look at Assad.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490710923 118669369,118677678,2017-03-28 14:22:13,">>118677383 Ancaps are too autistic to realise that anarchism creates a power vacuum which is always filled by a warlord faction, something which has been repeated in history thousands of times.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490710933 118669369,118677741,2017-03-28 14:22:40,">>118677274 Democracy doesn't work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490710960 118669369,118677937,2017-03-28 14:24:23,">>118677383 >and says that everybody within that land must pay him for the privilege of living there and follow whatever other laws he happens to come up with. Not saying you're wrong, it sounds like any other system honestly. This discussion is going nowhere except the fact that you will have to bend thy knee in some form or another.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711063 118669369,118677949,2017-03-28 14:24:30,">>118677176 That's plain wrong. The government does not enforce morality. If it did, there would be no crime anywhere. And there were no tax, because tax are immoral. What the government enforces is it's own preservation and expansion in any sector in which it can apply violence upon the citizens and sometimes - in case of hegemonial states like USA - also foreigners in their own countries. >>118677383 I didn't say it's not plausible. I said it's not quite likely to go as far as that. And if it would come to that scenario, people - and I emphazise that - COULD NOT BE FORCED to live on that land which would render it useless unless the landlord had a backup plan.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490711070 118669369,118677951,2017-03-28 14:24:31,">>118677678 LMAO dude fuck the Roman emperor. He won't let me smoke weed. Lets get rid of this government it'll be paradise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711071 118669369,118677975,2017-03-28 14:24:41,,,Anonymous,1486876782360.gif,po2n6ImjSSK5FZ0++5Mb1A==,NL,,1490711081 118669369,118677980,2017-03-28 14:24:42,">>118677466 The problem with all of these premises, is that you're operating under the assumption that you are going to start off with property. That's not necessarily the case. >>118677741 It actually works pretty darn well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711082 118669369,118678014,2017-03-28 14:24:59,">>118677176 religion is the only source of enforcing morality. What you are claiming is that not a single state worker will ever be greedy enough to ditch their morals. This is your claim. Not a single person will ever give up on their morals for state power? Ok, again your a naive retard. For your system to work everybody has to be very moral to the point where they would rather die than live a traitor. This is not realistic at all.",,Anonymous,1490680448424.jpg,K7rXkmJ3JyoGREXiYnRxng==,US,,1490711099 118669369,118678067,2017-03-28 14:25:20,,,Anonymous,jt5.jpg,uralaySH8CW/+r5dAJMkbQ==,NL,,1490711120 118669369,118678153,2017-03-28 14:26:04,">>118677176 >What you are claiming is that not a single person will ever be greedy enough to ditch their morals. This is your claim. Not at all. People can change morals, and also their neighbors can stop associating with that person. You become a pariah if you do not fit with your community's morals. Of course you can keep being a degenerate in your own home but you won't be welcome in the community, and shunned by your family. Now explain this weird fasination you have with your own morals being imposed on everybody.",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490711164 118669369,118678308,2017-03-28 14:27:26,">>118677583 No it doesn't. >It's generally very hard to steal from or kill other people without getting caught and thrown in jail. You're only using two examples? States have morality laws that regard different aspects of society that get broken daily. Also what are cities? Most murders go unsolved, and stealing is very common in life. In fact I stole 20 bucks yesterday.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711246 118669369,118678329,2017-03-28 14:27:35,">>118677949 >Taxes are immoral Is renting immoral? >If it did, there would be no crime anywhere >expecting a 100% effective rate You are truly autistic. >What the government enforces is it's own preservation and expansion in any sector in which it can apply violence upon the citizens and sometimes A business does the same thing. It doesn't matter what you call it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711255 118669369,118678373,2017-03-28 14:27:53,">>118676560 >Mosleyfag mad that the upholders of liberty have returned to claim what's theirs Go suck some more Aryan blood.",,Anonymous,free ride left side.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,SK,,1490711273 118669369,118678430,2017-03-28 14:28:26,Oi lads. Can someone explain to me AnCap? I get the free market shit but I don't understand the laws and court system. Like lets say I take a shit all over your garden. That's violating the NAP. How would you take me to court? How do private courts work? How would it be decided what the charges would be?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490711306 118669369,118678501,2017-03-28 14:28:57,">>118677629 I wasn't implying, I was just pointing out. >>118677741 I agree wholeheartedly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711337 118669369,118678513,2017-03-28 14:29:06,">>118677980 >It actually works pretty darn well. Citation needed >modern society is super degenerate >most of the modern world is a democracy? >democracy is still cool Democracy is just tyranny of the majority.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711346 118669369,118678728,2017-03-28 14:31:04,">>118676642 >buying all the property My property is mine, not theirs, and I'm not selling. I'm still subject to their rules, though. Oven. >not letting people enter your property >not letting people to carry guns in your property See above. >rent money Okay, rabbi. You can go back to your ""promised land"" - but with the 1947 UN borders. If you're lucky. >socialist policies are not an argument Okay, I guess I'll just starve. That'll prove you wrong. >muh property Again, see above. They didn't buy shit, so it's not theirs. You're getting ovened too, Schlomo.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490711464 118669369,118678767,2017-03-28 14:31:24,">>118677980 >The problem with all of these premises, is that you're operating under the assumption that you are going to start off with property. That's not necessarily the case. Well anon, that's not a problem exclusive to liberalism. Poors will be poors, and people with work ethics and industry will accumulate enough wealth to get land. Just like now.",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490711484 118669369,118678825,2017-03-28 14:31:57,">>118670766 This!",,Anonymous,1490724477230.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1490711517 118669369,118678885,2017-03-28 14:32:34,">>118676767 >how governments work ""Okay, guys. We're settled and we're starting to prosper. Let's elect one bastard to take half our shit and act violently upon us at will, that'll work.""",,Anonymous,mcveigh pepe.jpg,F7pZ7z5P7jNpCoTPK6sqbg==,SK,,1490711554 118669369,118678900,2017-03-28 14:32:41,">>118678014 So were back to the fact that your going to be subverted by jews again. >our system can work as long as everyone is always moral Again, it doesn't matter what you or John Adams said its not realistic or possible. This your version of the communism will work when robots are self sufficient argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711561 118669369,118678977,2017-03-28 14:33:25,">>118677333 You better be a Georgist or you're getting physically removed, too. Faggot.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490711605 118669369,118679142,2017-03-28 14:34:52,">>118678153 >I don't know what degeneracy is >dude like just leave them alone LMAO Confirmed for blue pilled. You want to revert to living in tribes like cave men.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711692 118669369,118679149,2017-03-28 14:34:55,">>118677937 >Not saying you're wrong, it sounds like any other system honestly. That's kind of the point. A new government is going to form. You cannot stop a government from coming into being. >>118677949 >I didn't say it's not plausible. I said it's not quite likely to go as far as that. Then you're historically illiterate. How do you think Kingdoms even came about? You have 1 guy who owns (controls) lots of land. He gradually expands his power by forming alliances with other guys who own lots of land, or conquering territory over time. It's not theoretical. This shit happened.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711695 118669369,118679168,2017-03-28 14:35:05,">>118674451 indeed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711705 118669369,118679171,2017-03-28 14:35:09,">>118677629 A fascist government can be overtaken like any other. A well-dressed faggot as a leader is still not bulletproof and he's not magical. Finally, fascists are not immune to gravity and thus helicopters work on them as well. Pinochet was a dictator, only antifaggots call him a fascist.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490711709 118669369,118679195,2017-03-28 14:35:20,">>118669369 Man, I got to say, this is the best thread I've seen in /pol/ in months. Keep up the good work OP.",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490711720 118669369,118679242,2017-03-28 14:35:41,">>118678329 Renting is not immoral. The rentee agrees upon renting, voluntarily. Tax are enforced, practially by violence as you're thrown in jail when you refuse or try to avoid taxes. >You are truly autistic. No,using the premise you layed out. If you say the state enforces morality then there would be no crimes as every person in the country would be perfectly moral. If not you needed saying that in first place breh. I cannot know what you're thinking when you post something on a vietnamese tea coth knitting board. >A business does the same thing. It doesn't matter what you call it. And once again you ignore the fundamental premise of ancap: Voluntaryness. If the people chose to not purchase goods from the corporation/business then said entity has no means to enforce anything.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490711741 118669369,118679257,2017-03-28 14:35:48,">>118677741 No shit, Sherlock. Neither does government, though some systems fail later than others.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490711748 118669369,118679271,2017-03-28 14:35:57,">>118678885 >Not having a system of checks and balances",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711757 118669369,118679351,2017-03-28 14:36:35,">>118678308 Dude what are morals just smoke weed lmao 420 bro! A government will enforce morals more than a ancap society will.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711795 118669369,118679413,2017-03-28 14:37:05,">>118677951 >what is literally the entire third century AD Diocletian literally divided the country because the government was no longer strong enough to hold it together, and so did Theodosius.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490711825 118669369,118679464,2017-03-28 14:37:31,">>118678329 Renting is voluntary, taxes are not.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490711851 118669369,118679465,2017-03-28 14:37:32,">>118679257 Government does work. You know what doesn't work? Being retarded like you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711852 118669369,118679475,2017-03-28 14:37:37,">>118679242 >Renting is not immoral. So what's wrong with the government charging rent (AKA taxes) for people who live in their country?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490711857 118669369,118679523,2017-03-28 14:38:01,">>118677975 >waving socialist banner You need another Blitzkrieg.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490711881 118669369,118679554,2017-03-28 14:38:16,">>118678430 answer me faggot an caps",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490711896 118669369,118679695,2017-03-28 14:39:32,">>118679475 I don't get locked in a cage at gunpoint if I don't pay rent",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490711972 118669369,118679706,2017-03-28 14:39:38,">>118678329 It's not rent when the country does not belong to you. That is, it's never rent.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490711978 118669369,118679780,2017-03-28 14:40:15,">>118679149 He does that by using violent expansionist behavior. That is not possible via NAP. And if he violates that, he's going to face massive retaliation by defense and insurance companies alike. You're in the wrong in that case. We're talking about an ancap society, not some backwards medieval 400bc landlord aiming to become king.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490712015 118669369,118679803,2017-03-28 14:40:28,">>118679464 Taxes are voluntary. You can always kill yourself at any time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712028 118669369,118679933,2017-03-28 14:41:35,">>118679351 >A government will enforce morals more than a ancap society will. Again, no it won't unless it is a totalitarian government that enforces every single moral code/law. In florida only missionary is allowed, but I bend bitches over tables. OH NO I BROKE THE MORALITY CODE. ARREST ME DEAR LEADER",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712095 118669369,118679936,2017-03-28 14:41:36,">>118679695 Why is it wrong for a property owner to lock you in a cage for violated the NAP on his property? Pro tip; the NAP is just the social contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712096 118669369,118679952,2017-03-28 14:41:46,">>118678513 See, you're getting the hang of it. Now imagine this - if you delegate the tyranny to one individual, what do we call that individual?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490712106 118669369,118680039,2017-03-28 14:42:33,">>118679706 But the country belongs to the king or dictator so it is rent in any government form besides democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712153 118669369,118680127,2017-03-28 14:43:20,">>118679271 >having a government at all Just kill any bastard that tries to deny you freedom. It ain't free, at best you pay for it with war, at worst with death. Freedom shapes men into something more than men - a system fascism could never hope to match, with its welfare for whites - that's disgraceful.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490712200 118669369,118680189,2017-03-28 14:43:55,">>118679780 >he's going to face massive retaliation Who's going to stop him? He has an well trained army. >inb4 the peoples revolution of",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712235 118669369,118680237,2017-03-28 14:44:14,">>118678900 So were back to the fact that your going to be subverted by jews again. >our system can work as long as everyone is always moral Again, it doesn't matter what you or the state said its not realistic or possible. This your version of the statism will work when robots are self sufficient argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712254 118669369,118680295,2017-03-28 14:44:46,">>118679933 So we are in a agreement. Democracy is horrible and fascism is the way to go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712286 118669369,118680379,2017-03-28 14:45:29,">>118679464 Taxes are essentially the rent that you pay for choosing the live in a particular country. >>118679695 People getting thrown in prison for failing to pay debts is something that used to happen all the time, and still happens in many places. >>118679780 >He does that by using violent expansionist behavior. That is not possible via NAP. This man owns a shitload of land and he has his own private army that is loyal to him. The NAP doesn't matter because you cannot enforce it upon him. He decides what the law is in the areas of land that he and his family controls.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712329 118669369,118680459,2017-03-28 14:46:14,what's good,,Anonymous,hoppewave.jpg,ia2+0pGzR738bf2zAn3onQ==,PT,,1490712374 118669369,118680461,2017-03-28 14:46:15,">>118679465 Then explain why all countries are in a state of disrepair. Explain why fascism leads to war and defeat. Explain why welfare kills the family unit. Explain why I should not gun down anyone who opposes my freedom.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490712375 118669369,118680465,2017-03-28 14:46:16,">>118679952 A king. Wouldn't it be great.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712376 118669369,118680545,2017-03-28 14:46:58,">>118680189 >>118680379 So do the others. Am army is not bound to ""land"". There are private armies, the insurance companies and so on and so forth. If nothing helps, he's going to face recreational nukes.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490712418 118669369,118680639,2017-03-28 14:47:48,"Reminder that Stirner is a cuckboi. Reminder that if you know someone who's leftist, they have a 85% chance of being actual cuckbois.",,Anonymous,hoppe-vs-stirner.png,TeH8OoNDCmu0IV9JpjQLNw==,PT,,1490712468 118669369,118680660,2017-03-28 14:48:00,">>118679936 because now there are extra damages he can levy against the landlord whereas the landord simply kicking him out is a bulletproof defense",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712480 118669369,118680673,2017-03-28 14:48:06,">>118680295 Are you retarded? Democracy is horrible because factions of people abuse the power that they are given. Fascism is like Democracy x100 - people who would abuse that supreme power and nobody could do anything",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490712486 118669369,118680688,2017-03-28 14:48:13,">>118680127 You cannot stop a government from forming. In any power vacuum, people of all different sorts will band together to form a new government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712493 118669369,118680750,2017-03-28 14:48:48,">>118680127 But what if you are on his property? He has the right to kill you for not following his properties rules. >Freedom shapes men into something more than men - a system fascism could never hope its the exact opposite. Freedom turns society into men doing what they can. Natsoc turns society into a collective achieving something that will last for centuries. It seems like you've been watched too many cowboy movies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712528 118669369,118680889,2017-03-28 14:49:59,">>118680379 >Taxes are essentially the rent that you pay for choosing the live in a particular country. You can't choose where to live, you're born there and it's pretty fucking hard to move unless you got money. You say democracy is great/works, but has anyone actually voted on taxes in terms of what kind and how much? Or was it just politicians deciding to pass taxes because....Taxes are needed?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712599 118669369,118680901,2017-03-28 14:50:06,">>118680545 >So do the others. Yes, other kings also have armies. Most people do not. >Am army is not bound to ""land"". If I'm a king, then my army has sworn allegiance to me and my generals. They will not take orders from anybody else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712606 118669369,118680956,2017-03-28 14:50:39,">>118680189 >He has an well trained army. no he doesnt. you already demonstrated he does not care about anything, so you are not going to get loyalty from hired guns when they know you are gonna fuck them over at any second your liberia tier armies versus dutch east india tier armies. hmmmm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712639 118669369,118681001,2017-03-28 14:51:01,">>118680660 >because now there are extra damages he can levy against the landlord What damages? he can't go to a higher power a sue the landlord. This is absolute retardation. In your society there is literally nothing wrong with taking a person skipping out on rent and forcing him into slavery to pay off his debt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712661 118669369,118681149,2017-03-28 14:52:23,">>118680379 >Taxes are essentially the rent that you pay for choosing the live in a particular country. then the first taxdollar was not justified. and since you built you rentspace with that unjustified taxdollar, all future justification is also void",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712743 118669369,118681295,2017-03-28 14:53:46,End Democracy. Institute a Natural Order.,,Anonymous,16178750_10154822693563672_4444277423750438121_o.jpg,5efcChAVRVy09N0Lx9mzAg==,PT,,1490712826 118669369,118681343,2017-03-28 14:54:13,"Bumping for abortion, banning fractional reserve banking as fraudulent and private seas and oceans.",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1490712853 118669369,118681365,2017-03-28 14:54:26,">>118680889 >has anyone actually voted on taxes in terms of what kind and how much? Yes. If you want more taxes, you vote for Democrats. If you want fewer taxes, you vote for Republicans. That's how it works, it's not a perfect system, but its pretty good overall. (I consider Switzerland to be the real ""perfect"" system) BTW, the ONLY reason that you any input on this at all is because Americans can vote for who they want to run the government. In a dictatorship, there would still be taxes, but you would get ZERO input on how much they are, or what they are used for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490712866 118669369,118681369,2017-03-28 14:54:27,">>118681001 >In your society there is literally nothing wrong with taking a person skipping out on rent and forcing him into slavery to pay off his debt. ok reddit. now go read ""the not so wild, wild west"" and realize that life is not a jewish hollywood movie",,Anonymous,1490169195407.jpg,nqibTJbTJorert6wJz+EgA==,US,,1490712867 118669369,118681386,2017-03-28 14:54:37,">>118680379 >Taxes are essentially the rent that you pay for choosing the live in a particular country. When did you sign up to be born in the US? I don't remember anything about that contract.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490712877 118669369,118681392,2017-03-28 14:54:39,">>118680901 You're obviously ignoring what I'm telling you. >>118681295",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490712879 118669369,118681494,2017-03-28 14:55:37,">>118681343 >for abortion Not in my covenant.",,Anonymous,1485951000930.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,PT,,1490712937 118669369,118681586,2017-03-28 14:56:26,">>118680039 It is rent if it's democracy, too. And we aren't shilling for monarchy, we're just saying it's objectively superior to democracy for this simple reason: >what a prince plunders now, he can't plunder later >therefore, princes are more conservative with ""their"" money and try to invest it to maximise profit versus >what a president doesn't plunder now, he can't plunder later regardless because term limits/lost faith >therefore, they steal as long as they're in office, only regarding their own pocket and the pocket of their (((sponsors))) Meanwhile, in Ansnekistan: >what an individual tries to plunder is heavily defended by profit-motivated insurers and property-motivated owners, usually resulting in the agressor's death >therefore, people keep to themselves and instead try to trade to get the most out of their property, boosting the economy more than any monarch ever could",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490712986 118669369,118681689,2017-03-28 14:57:17,">>118681365 So what, you're gonna tell me that the average american knows that his tax money goes to subsidies for the Rockefellers or weapons for desert Jihadis?",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1490713037 118669369,118681719,2017-03-28 14:57:30,">>118681365 wrong. amendments must be ratified by 3/4ths of the legislatures the income tax amendment appeared when we had 48 states so show me the documents of ratification for 36 states (or more) and I will concede that income tax is justified pro tip- they dont exist",,Anonymous,1489190618880.png,PZhdzKk1H6JgZXLMDWUAgw==,US,,1490713050 118669369,118681777,2017-03-28 14:57:58,">>118677286 Never been there, never will. You should try that place, and maybe stay there while you're at it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490713078 118669369,118681876,2017-03-28 14:58:46,">>118675572 Yes, you can do something about it. The liberal would have to individually pay up for housing and accommodation for each and every person he invited unless he only happened to invite him onto his personal property. If there still exists communal property or public property (as in minarchism), then he has to support the immigrant's expenses. Also liberals are deadbeat slobs with no money they wouldn't pay a dollar to have even one Muslim. And liberalism, as understood in America, is promoted by the welfare state and egalitarianism that undermines the natural order. Let the natural order run wild and you eliminate all degenerates within a few generations.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490713126 118669369,118681920,2017-03-28 14:59:14,">>118680459 It's great - fashies getting pissed that libertarians still exist and they can no longer steal memes from us.",,Anonymous,hoppe costanza.png,pIgAdJvpGAMA/mdAZbYiDw==,SK,,1490713154 118669369,118681985,2017-03-28 14:59:53,">>118680465 I meant a tyrant. That's a person who's better off dead.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490713193 118669369,118682050,2017-03-28 15:00:22,">>118680673 Are you fucking retarded? Democracy is horrible because people can't consolidate. Its a constant struggle over popularity and nothing really gets done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713222 118669369,118682082,2017-03-28 15:00:37,"Alright so I know some more about the libertarian right thanks to these threads and appreciate the general concepts of liberty and physical removal but I have a question The idea seems to be that leftists should be excluded privately (from property and stores and such) by the respective owners. Wouldn't businesses tend to do business with them anyway though? I would think that a business that excludes leftists and libs would be turning away profit and wouldn't prosper nearly as much as a business that did as much business as possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713237 118669369,118682159,2017-03-28 15:01:18,">>118680956 >implying The hired guns are upper class citizens and paid very well with considerate tax breaks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713278 118669369,118682218,2017-03-28 15:01:51,">>118680688 Oh watch me, honkey (though there's only a 63% and falling chance of that being an accurate assessment of you, mongrel). This hatchet kills tyrants. The NAP does not apply to our enemies and especially not to the traitors of the (((Libertarian Party))).",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490713311 118669369,118682220,2017-03-28 15:01:52,">>118681920 >fashies getting pissed that libertarians still exist",,Anonymous,1489890621276.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,PT,,1490713312 118669369,118682260,2017-03-28 15:02:09,">>118675636 And how do they simply ""buy up"" land if there are already property owners in those lands before them? Your entire premise is that the super rich would be able to convince literally every single person on a given geographical area to become serfs. How is that different from a state tax? People would laugh at them and mock them. Those ""super rich"" you're talking of who desire to collect rent and enforce their laws already exist; they make up the state. Taxes are the rent and their ""laws"" are legislation.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490713329 118669369,118682324,2017-03-28 15:02:44,">>118681586 You're straight-up delusional if you think a monarchy wouldn't have taxes. Potentially much higher than whatever you'd be paying today. >>118682050 Pretty much any country you'd actually want to live in would be a democracy/republic. The alternative would be living in a commie shitfest like North Korea or a theocratic monarchy like Saudi Arabia.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713364 118669369,118682362,2017-03-28 15:03:05,">>118681369 Not an argument. He is within his right to do so. >debt slavery won't happen because humans are inherently good",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713385 118669369,118682392,2017-03-28 15:03:25,">>118682159 >tax breaks. you might actually be the most retarded person to ever step foot in one of these threads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713405 118669369,118682398,2017-03-28 15:03:28,">>118681365 Not how it works buddy. An example: would be like me living in California that want lower taxes but the left wants more. How the fuck is that democratically fair. Then what if I'm a lefty and want more, but the right doesn't want taxes. >inb4 just move",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713408 118669369,118682421,2017-03-28 15:03:43,">>118680639 Leftists in general are pretty wrong about Stirner. His application of individualist anarchism in real life would be pretty much the same as anarcho capitalism but explained with different terminology and justified with a different set of morals. As a matter of fact, Stirner's individualist anarchism influenced what would become later american libertarianism. I mean, he even had a small business. Not very proletarian for me.",,Anonymous,stirner.jpg,dkLUhYb5rZ8riQxscSu+Yw==,ES,,1490713423 118669369,118682516,2017-03-28 15:04:32,">>118681689 I'm pretty sure he is a commie bootlicker behind the computer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713472 118669369,118682583,2017-03-28 15:05:06,">>118682362 >He is within his right to do so. no he isnt. the slave will levy damages and the landlord will end up paying far more than just buying a boot to kick his ass out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713506 118669369,118682743,2017-03-28 15:06:25,">>118682218 >The NAP does not apply to our enemies It doesn't apply to anybody. It's a fictional thing. It ONLY exists in places were the government chooses to write it into law and enforce it. >>118682398 I already said that it was an imperfect system. In my opinion, the closest thing to a perfect system would be Switzerland.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713585 118669369,118682750,2017-03-28 15:06:30,">>118669369 I want to believe in the cause, but I just don't think it'll ever happen. Niggers won't let you take their gibs. Single mothers won't let you take their welfare. The alphabet agencies who are supposed to be under the jurisdiction of the federal government won't let you pull their funding. And worst of all, (((they))) won't let you bring down the Federal Reserve. I just see a trend towards the left in all things. I don't want it to go this way, but I'd be lying to myself if I said I thought it was going to get better.",,Anonymous,chart.png,HZL7tIEOZ0kDMpHsBgMLKQ==,US,,1490713590 118669369,118682762,2017-03-28 15:06:33,">>118682082 You can do whatever the fuck you want on your property. If you chose to build a communist enclave, that's perfectly fine. That also means that, as long as they don't stir shit etc., businesses are of course able to trade with them whenever etc.. The problem with all those marxist branches (and likewise islam for example) is that they are inherently expansionist ideologies, thus violating the NAP when taking action so to speak. Therefore they're removed.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490713593 118669369,118682781,2017-03-28 15:06:44,">>118680750 What on Earth would I be doing on his property without his permission? Good manners are essential if the Hoppean model is to function. What you're describing is an effect of the alliance between Marxism (welfare and regulations) and the international Jewry (subversion, infiltration, chaos, open borders, immigration => white genocide). True freedom means no feather bed to fall back on (unless you've made or acquired one yourself or with somebody's help) and no-one to leech of your success - if they didn't help you. That's what makes a great man - it requires strength - often physical too - it requires courage, mastery foremost, and honor if you are to reap the spiritual rewards as well. There's nothing that beats a victory you earned yourself.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490713604 118669369,118682805,2017-03-28 15:07:03,">>118681985 Why? What if the Tyrant got rid of almost all laws. You would be happy wouldn't you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713623 118669369,118682849,2017-03-28 15:07:26,">>118680459 Sup friend By the way, I never asked you, what do you think of Salazar and Estado Novo in general? Also, what do you think of Jeffrey Tucker? He comes off as a bit of a fag don't you think? Says the paleocon alliance that 90s Rothbard (best Rothbard) made was unfortunate and that it is sad to see libertarians like Hoppe and Rockwell follow in his footsteps. Also, today I saw the Capitalist Work Ethic or whatever that book is called by Marc Webber. Is it worth it?",,Anonymous,DEMOCRACY.png,Z+BWrGPfBP6xhOt1e8L0KA==,PT,,1490713646 118669369,118682895,2017-03-28 15:07:49,">>118681295 Seconded. Natural order ain't some asshole telling me what to do on my own property.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490713669 118669369,118683017,2017-03-28 15:09:03,">>118682324 >being this stupid There can be fascist or monarchies without being communist. You must be a 15 year old or something to be so naive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713743 118669369,118683078,2017-03-28 15:09:30,">>118669369 Honestly, I think you guys should read these people, who are making progress on the concept to create a new ethnostate from zero. http://memeticprincipalityofkek.club/index.php?topic=40.0",,Anonymous,kek-coin-trans.png,BOWSoTIZuGXSlm/UkjkDhQ==,CL,,1490713770 118669369,118683105,2017-03-28 15:09:45,">>118681343 >abortion Only if it's nogs or unavoidable. Also, as far from my property as possible. >private seas Wew, never thought of that. Imagine the profits... and palm huts on the beach while drinking raw milk from a chalice adorned with blood diamonds acquired from a conquest of some African commie warlord's territory. Fucking goals.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490713785 118669369,118683128,2017-03-28 15:09:56,">>118682583 How will the slave levy damages? There is no government to force the land lord to do anything?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713796 118669369,118683141,2017-03-28 15:10:03,">>118682750 They'll be crushed against the wall of fiancial reality. This cannot go on forever. Do you think that 20 trillion dollar mess is just gonna go away?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490713803 118669369,118683201,2017-03-28 15:10:28,">>118682392 excuse me, rent breaks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713828 118669369,118683225,2017-03-28 15:10:41,">>118682750 Don't lose hope bruhf. As Hoppe said, at the moment it's important to keep and develope the ideas. When the (or ""a"") collapse happens, you can start to implement.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490713841 118669369,118683237,2017-03-28 15:10:50,">>118682743 You keep bringing up the Swiss, but I'm not sure you know how they run things. The country is split almost down the line in terms of political thought.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713850 118669369,118683248,2017-03-28 15:10:58,">>118681777 Kek confirms my claim. Praise.",,Anonymous,kek gop.jpg,9Lw5c/lLP9ILGvYBKU4STQ==,SK,,1490713858 118669369,118683400,2017-03-28 15:12:18,">>118683141 >>118683225 If/when a collapse happens, that's prime time for a dictator or foreign power to get involved. Social and cultural change needs to occur for a shift towards libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713938 118669369,118683426,2017-03-28 15:12:34,">>118682762 Thanks for the answer I was leaning toward (though not ever solidly) fascist because it always seemed like the most efficient way to remove leftists but seeing the libertarian right come back (and with some teeth and not that gary johnson retardation) is pulling me to the libertarian side I've always known that whatever power you cede to the state is power you'll basically never get back but it just seemed like the necessary price to pay to stop the commies Glad these threads are here, there's some actual discussion going on",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713954 118669369,118683441,2017-03-28 15:12:45,">>118683141 Do you think that government is just going to go away? Do you plan to vote the government out of existence? Or will there be a peoples revolution. face it, your just as bad as communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490713965 118669369,118683511,2017-03-28 15:13:24,">>118682082 We may do business with them if they're not totally batshit insane. Hell, even Paddy Tarleton who's a NatSoc is perfectly sane and I'd have a beer with him over some lolbergarian.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714004 118669369,118683565,2017-03-28 15:13:51,">>118683237 >You keep bringing up the Swiss, but I'm not sure you know how they run things. They're a democratic federal republic. >The country is split almost down the line in terms of political thought. Any free society is going to have that to some extent. Uniformity of public opinion is something that only happens in shithole countries like Saudi Arabia or North Korea.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714031 118669369,118683577,2017-03-28 15:13:58,">>118683225 You aren't developing ideas, your just creating excuses for why these problems don't exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714038 118669369,118683776,2017-03-28 15:15:39,">>118683400 Well, you're absolutely right. Change happens not overnight. But preserving and developing the ideas doesn't mean to write a book on it that ends up on a shelf and no1 will ever read it. It also means (or even mostly) to also distribute the ideas, to educate the people, show them what's wrong etc.. The more people go away from pseuo-socialist """"""freedom"""""""" to actual, the better. People like Hoppe are doing God's work by promoting the liberation all day erry day and we can just hope to be at least a but influential by promoting the threads and on a local scale",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490714139 118669369,118683803,2017-03-28 15:15:50,">>118683511 That was always my other major question is how much leftism can be tolerated/who determines that/what is the appropriate response But I suppose that just depends on the individuals involved and who's property is involved Forgive me, I'm no philosopher",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714150 118669369,118683837,2017-03-28 15:16:09,">>118682220 >gas Never happened, but it will. I'd prefer bayonets - much cleaner, faster, and you get swole pretty quickly if you stick a kilo-Commie a day.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714169 118669369,118683852,2017-03-28 15:16:19,,,Anonymous,32DFGtoiUpt1.jpg,4yVnRR45ADaLSiHw4sY+WQ==,US,,1490714179 118669369,118683936,2017-03-28 15:16:56,">>118683511 >we You have no control over other peoples businesses. Fuck even if you don't do business with them someone who wants to make a quick buck will. This is why capitalism works and its also why libertarianism won't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714216 118669369,118684031,2017-03-28 15:17:34,">>118682324 Oh, it would have taxes, absolutely. Just limited ones. And like I said, I'm for liberty, not monarchy. Purely playing devil's advocate when defending it at all.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714254 118669369,118684097,2017-03-28 15:18:05,">>118683565 Yup, you don't get it. I'm probably debating a 12 year old.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714285 118669369,118684128,2017-03-28 15:18:21,">>118683852 >white identity I'm going to buy 3 housed in your town then invite 200 niggers to live in them and there is nothing you can do about because its my private property. If you kill a nigger stealing your bike i'll just invite 2 more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714301 118669369,118684171,2017-03-28 15:18:46,>when the feds already made your ancap memeballs a reality,,Anonymous,cyanide.png,y5/SizGjBQ3YfoMk4d51SA==,US,,1490714326 118669369,118684176,2017-03-28 15:18:51,">>118683852 >but muh..muh greatest story never told",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490714331 118669369,118684207,2017-03-28 15:19:09,You lolbertarians are failures.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714349 118669369,118684210,2017-03-28 15:19:11,">>118683577 You're so salty breh. I don't even know why's that. Of course I'm not !developing! the ideas, I'm no philosopher or economist. But I'm trying to promote and explain them as good possible. And that phrase doesn't just apply to myself y'know ?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490714351 118669369,118684263,2017-03-28 15:19:44,">>118683400 So you basically want a revolution that forces a non-aggression ideology onto people? Somehow reminds me of something...",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490714384 118669369,118684285,2017-03-28 15:19:52,">>118682421 Yeah. Stirner is pretty based (though insane, but hey, that's not a valid concern on /pol/). Even his idea of a worker's revolution is pretty voluntaryist to me - the people who actually cheat their employees are often those whom ancaps would want gone as well.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714392 118669369,118684352,2017-03-28 15:20:25,">>118683565 >Living in Saudi Arabia is bad for Arabians They are living the dream.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714425 118669369,118684459,2017-03-28 15:21:37,">>118684210 You failed. Libertarianism doesn't work. Stop being a libertarian. You must realize that there is a natural order to this world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714497 118669369,118684498,2017-03-28 15:21:57,">>118682743 No, it applies between freedom fighters. We don't act agressively upon our own. And it's very real in its core. You usually leave people alone if they're not acting agressively upon you, but defend yourself if they are. Government intervenes here and tells you to tolerate some measure of agression - and sticks a gun to your face for good measure and to ensure compliance.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714517 118669369,118684553,2017-03-28 15:22:29,">>118684207 One has to stop for a moment to appreciate the irony of nazi larping, ethno nationalists, authoritarian fascists calling another ideology unviable.",,Anonymous,1487884035110.png,XzkZRyxohY5MPlhlU3kvAA==,CR,,1490714549 118669369,118684665,2017-03-28 15:23:37,">>118684459 >angry because he knows we're right topkek God bless you.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490714617 118669369,118684670,2017-03-28 15:23:38,">>118682750 >take They are the takers. If they chimp out, we'll employ the neetSocs to clean them out as a shock force with the cleanup being performed by us. And it's gonna get a lot worse if you don't act. ARE YOU GONNA STAND IDLY WHILE YOUR COUNTRY IS TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714618 118669369,118684711,2017-03-28 15:23:57,">>118684553 Not an argument. >constitutional monarchism isn't viable",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714637 118669369,118684804,2017-03-28 15:24:44,">>118682805 Eh, I'd be nicer, that's fair enough. I'd let him leave peacefully. He still better go, though.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714684 118669369,118684850,2017-03-28 15:25:09,">>118684711 >constitutional",,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1490714709 118669369,118684883,2017-03-28 15:25:25,">>118684459 >You must realize that there is a natural order to this world. That's your response to a violent mafia like group forcibly taking our money? Just deal with it?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490714725 118669369,118684899,2017-03-28 15:25:32,">>118683078 >ethno HELL YEAH >state heavens no",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714732 118669369,118684923,2017-03-28 15:25:44,">>118684711 >Not an argument. You haven't presented any argument for me to retort with another.",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1490714744 118669369,118685075,2017-03-28 15:27:14,">>118683400 When government fails, people will begin relying into each other instead of using the machinery of the state to plunder their fellows. People will have to work for a living and those who don't and try to steal will probably be shot. That is what plants the seeds of liberty, people seeing that hard work pays and parasitism costs. The reason why freedom in the end prevails is because what we're defending is not some fancy ideology for societal control, it is just a description of how humans act according to their own interests without need to being forced into it. Any successful society will spontaneously arrange itself around a free market because it is the system that brings the most prosperity. Socialism and any other kind of authoritarianism on the other hand are unnatural and forced from top to bottom and sooner or later they fail. Capitalism always appears spontaneously at any place and under many different names because it is in human nature. >>118684285 >Even his idea of a worker's revolution is pretty voluntaryist to me Precisely one of the main points in favor of ancapism is that it is completely voluntary and compatible with any other non-violent form of society If someone really is a commie and really wants to live communally without owning nothing but a few personal belongings he's absolutely free to do so. Basically what Uncle Murray said in this quote. He who complains that wage work is inherently exploitative should walk his talk, refuse salaried work and work instead in cooperatives. The fact they don't do that proves most of these people aren't really communists but rather parasites. To the legit communists this shouldn't be a problem.",,Anonymous,quote murray cooperatives.jpg,AiNOwdl2xEM1almb7MlI3A==,ES,,1490714834 118669369,118685111,2017-03-28 15:27:31,">>118683441 >as bad as Horseshoe. We fight for freedom. The commies fight for death. Take your pick.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714851 118669369,118685259,2017-03-28 15:28:48,">>118684498 >No, it applies between freedom fighters. Every rebellion has infighting. Just look at what happened in Russia. Once it became clear the Tsar was on the way out, everybody started fighting over who would get to pick up the pieces and create the new government to replace the old one. And as fate would have it, the commies were the most organized of all the rebel groups, so they won, eliminated all the other rebel groups, and created the new government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490714928 118669369,118685307,2017-03-28 15:29:17,">>118683803 Are they willing to take up arms against you? If so, kill them if they're men and subjugate them into a harem if they're women. If not, why bother? If they need a government so badly, give it to them! Show them the wonders of voluntary trade, and the years of Marxist brainwashing will fade away.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490714957 118669369,118685534,2017-03-28 15:31:17,">>118683852 Eh, you're hating them for the wrong reason. Hitler deserved all he got (except for what the Germans got in the end - fuck that) for invading peaceful countries. Spencer is a socialist cuck. Not a shill, he's been in for quite some time before it caught on.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490715077 118669369,118685886,2017-03-28 15:34:23,">>118683936 I meant me and people who think like me. You're really grasping for straws here. Sad.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490715263 118669369,118686033,2017-03-28 15:35:39,">>118684171 See? The government in action. Firing squads are kinder than what they deserve at this point.",,Anonymous,anger.jpg,I2ExaZLK9G6f+i5dmAZUdQ==,SK,,1490715339 118669369,118686246,2017-03-28 15:37:42,">>118684207 >us >lolbertarians The difference between a propertarian like us and a lolbertarian like any mainstream Libertarian Party is that we actually fight to preserve our freedom. And stop projecting - fascism failed everytime it was tried, except for Franco. He's definitely /ourgoy/ and a lot better than Pussylini. Pinochet is not a fascist.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490715462 118669369,118686406,2017-03-28 15:39:06,">>118684459 The natural order of people protecting what's theirs? Gee, I wonder what person with the initials HHH has talked about that in literature brought up in the second reply to the OP posted by yours truly.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490715546 118669369,118686516,2017-03-28 15:40:05,">>118684553 >ethnonationalists Hold the phone. Hoppe is an ethnonationalist without the retardation.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490715605 118669369,118686591,2017-03-28 15:40:43,">>118686246 Another great, and prolly more obvious difference is, that they're trying to enforce the """"""freedom"""""" by law.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490715643 118669369,118686655,2017-03-28 15:41:16,"For those still stuck with the memes: A friendly reminder that Somalia is the corpse of a failed socialist republic and that even though it is a war torn shithole the living standards have actually impoved respective to how they were back then when the regime was in charge. Also: https://mises.org/library/anarchy-somalia https://mises.org/library/competing-currencies-somalia https://mises.org/library/competing-currencies-somalia >""Despite the seeming anarchy, Somalia's service sector has managed to survive and grow. Telecommunication firms provide wireless services in most major cities and offer the lowest international call rates on the continent. In the absence of a formal banking sector, money exchange services have sprouted throughout the country, handling between $500 million and $1 billion in remittances annually. Mogadishu's main market offers a variety of goods from food to the newest electronic gadgets. Hotels continue to operate, and militias provide security.""",,Anonymous,agorism blackmarket.jpg,GmalMlcv2ZToWjpBLUmZyA==,ES,,1490715676 118669369,118686766,2017-03-28 15:42:18,">>118686655 KEK APPROVES.",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1490715738 118669369,118686823,2017-03-28 15:42:55,Ancaps and ancomms are the most embarrassing retards on earth,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490715775 118669369,118686845,2017-03-28 15:43:10,">>118684850 KEK",,Anonymous,hoppe-senpai.jpg,xPYHlnJ8Byb5vByoB1jjBA==,SK,,1490715790 118669369,118686860,2017-03-28 15:43:15,">>118682849 >what do you think of Salazar and Estado Novo in general Well it had many things to dislike of course. Post April25th people forget that Salazar had us in a upwards spiral and that after the revolution we went on a downwards spiral. Also, even though I'd like an empire I think having 100 million Africans in your country is not going to end up well. The commies really did a fucking number on our country. Did you know that in ""Verão Quente"" there was a plan to separate North (Liberal, Aliança Democrática) and South (Commie, PS/PC/LUAR, Álvaro Cunhal) in case of a military branch going on the offensive to take Lisbon? Very interesting stuff, Portugal didn't separate into two, with a Liberal North w/ Porto as capital by a very small chance. See this: http://expresso.sapo.pt/politica/2015-11-25-25-de-Novembro.-O-culminar-inevitavel-de-tensoes-e-confrontos",,Anonymous,1489879659186.png,rHzNMEhC+y8kHnob+P52bg==,PT,,1490715795 118669369,118686993,2017-03-28 15:44:24,>>118686655,,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL2Rpc2NvcmQuc3RvcmFnZS5nb29nbGVhcGlzLmNvbS9hdHRhY2htZW50cy8yNzc1ODI2NDEzMzM2NjU3OTIvMjk1NjQxMzkyNTEwOTI2ODc4L0M3d2UtWVVXMEFBVTk4Qy5qcGcifQ.EGE_tP5H3LJLp1uF7LD60XcLbwY.jpg,QPSS4y/bxuoAvaGpZGBbNQ==,DE,,1490715864 118669369,118687029,2017-03-28 15:44:45,">>118685259 Except that we have the same principles. We do not ally with those who are not pretty much the same as us.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490715885 118669369,118687106,2017-03-28 15:45:33,">>118686591 Pretty much. The law is supposed to be justice - as said by Bastiat himself - and the NAP already accomplishes that.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490715933 118669369,118687214,2017-03-28 15:46:36,">>118686655 >agorism Nice. We need ""criminals"" on our side. You actually dindu nuffin.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490715996 118669369,118687275,2017-03-28 15:47:18,">>118686823 Not as embarassing as those who like being ruled by the eternal Jew.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490716038 118669369,118687406,2017-03-28 15:48:37,">>118686766 Vaguepost best post. Saved.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490716117 118669369,118687472,2017-03-28 15:49:13,">>118686860 Mmmm.... I see. Yes, I also share your view pretty much. If I lived during those times I wouldn't like the economic corporatism so much but I can imagine the comfiness knowing PIDE was out there to catch all dirty commies and that people in government were all-in-all more competent and instructed. I also don't think we should have an Empire, I really wouldn't have liked the ""Somos todos Portugueses."" Yeah, um, no lol. > Portugal didn't separate into two, with a Liberal North w/ Porto as capital by a very small chance. worst fucking timeline we're living mate.",,Anonymous,frogs.png,mLfQNRljK6sT++d9BhGRag==,PT,,1490716153 118669369,118687491,2017-03-28 15:49:25,">>118686823 Why's that ? Because we're not longing for some (((Führer))) and violently imposed enslavery ? Yeah, it's truly retarded",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490716165 118669369,118687917,2017-03-28 15:53:09,Extra friendly reminder that gypsies ain't people.,,Anonymous,Spain 2025.png,dme0JYbDUWOnKUIXUEtlnQ==,ES,,1490716389 118669369,118688070,2017-03-28 15:54:25,">>118687917 I wholeheartedly agree. Never had an encounter with those ""people"" that did not end in shouting or insulting.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490716465 118669369,118688440,2017-03-28 15:57:35,"Reminder That any anarchy can't work, there just has to be a small government to protect individual rights dumb shit anarchy niggers, prove me wrong. Hint: You can't",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490716655 118669369,118688614,2017-03-28 15:59:14,">>118669369 is hoppe really an cap? I thought he was better than this. like having borders and shit. im confused.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490716754 118669369,118688644,2017-03-28 15:59:31,">>118688440 tfw >>118688440 ANCAP BTFO HOLY SHIT HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER",,Anonymous,gitanos por el mundo.jpg,yCcw0DQTej2yTdSpE3irmA==,ES,,1490716771 118669369,118688747,2017-03-28 16:00:29,">>118688070 >>118688644 tfw they play the oppression card to justify their uncivilized behavior tfw progressives eat this turd",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490716829 118669369,118688873,2017-03-28 16:01:39,">>118688614 AnCaps do have borders. Read his works man. Democracy The God That Failed is a good starting point.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490716899 118669369,118688939,2017-03-28 16:02:12,">>118688440 >he doesn't understand ancapism >>118688614 >The term adopted here for a social system free of monopoly and >taxation is ""natural order."" Other names used elsewhere or by others to >refer to the same thing include ""ordered anarchy,"" ""private property >anarchism,"" ""anarcho-capitalism,"" ""autogovemment,""""private law so-ciety,"" and ""pure capitalism."" Democracy - The God that Failed, Introduction, p. xxi",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490716932 118669369,118689299,2017-03-28 16:05:26,">>118688939 Ancapism will just become feudalism after a while, i don't understand how you get past this with out some small scale government to enforce laws and shit, saying this as a libertarian / Minarchist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490717126 118669369,118689333,2017-03-28 16:05:40,">>118684899 It's not really going to be an Ethnostate but an ethnocommunity. It follows somehow Curtis Yarvin's work. It will belocated in Wyoming so there is no income tax, no corporate tax... it is an interesting project. Feel free to register an contribute: memeticprincipalityofkek.club/index.php?action=register",,Anonymous,1487280902157.png,Tjd8kaFn0y+jxe83txiCLg==,ES,,1490717140 118669369,118689862,2017-03-28 16:09:56,">>118688644 >eslovaquia that is Luník IX the direct effect of communism on the gypsy community Before that, they were nomads and living a decent life according to their culture. Another reason why I hate commies.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490717396 118669369,118690133,2017-03-28 16:12:24,">>118677661 I believe there was some competition between princes under feudalism as well. (Though more for knights than for serfs.) Why isn't neofeudalism more of a thing anyway? It should be. Remove the clothing of capitalism entirely and go full CROPS",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490717544 118669369,118690136,2017-03-28 16:12:26,">>118669369 Stalin did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,stalin-freedom.jpg,uUEy2AWZv0O10dTR2lrJ8g==,SE,,1490717546 118669369,118690166,2017-03-28 16:12:38,">>118677090 >>118674639 888888 >Heil Helikotperherr Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490717558 118669369,118690410,2017-03-28 16:14:49,">>118690136 Remove yourself commie.",,Anonymous,awesome image.png,eb640y8BE7QVZtqFdaxdCg==,PT,,1490717689 118669369,118691218,2017-03-28 16:21:44,">>118669369 Hella boys",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490718104 118669369,118691237,2017-03-28 16:21:54,">>118685075 >That is what plants the seeds of liberty, people seeing that hard work pays and parasitism costs. We need this so hard in Spain, but I feel we are too far gone. You must have seen those who complain when a tax cut is announced. At first I thought they were neets who didnt pay taxes anyways, but lately Ive realized they are lazy but working adults, whos sadistic devotion to the state is absolute. They will gladly give away half their earnings and then complain because the succesful are making too much and dont want to give it away. Many who work hard and succeed try to play it off as if they got lucky, or as if it really wasnt a big deal, because working hard is kind of shameful, and others would call them slaves. How can we turn the boat around in a country as cucked as ours?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490718114 118669369,118691277,2017-03-28 16:22:14,">>118689299 I don't think it would. When the society and it's people are inherently free, noone is going to majke himself commodity of a landlord. The landlord will just go bankrupt and cease to be a landlord, because he violates the very premise of ancapism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490718134 118669369,118691791,2017-03-28 16:26:30,">>118691237 That's a very nice point. People always be like >EHRMAHGEHRD WAT AN EZ LIFE MANGE But the truth is that artists and bankers and managers as well as professors and shit work like 70 hours/week. People only see ... or better purposefully perceive ... the ""good sides"" and when it comes to the massive shit those successful people are taking to be successful, they close their eyes and >LLALAALALLALAA I CANT HEAR YOU INCREASE WEALTH TAX SO I CAN LIVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE It's so sad ... In a society in which hard work is regarded as non-factor or shameful or whatever, the welfare state has ABSOLUTE reign.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490718390 118669369,118691952,2017-03-28 16:28:02,">>118688440 In the words of based professor Huerta de Soto, it would be idiotic to create a libertarian society and plant in it the seed of its own destruction in the form of a government, however small it is. If you analyze every government in the last 2 centuries, the institution and its power always tends to expand over time, no exceptions. You put them in charge of national defense and law making, then they regulate certain area, then they introduce a new public agency... fast forward 50 years and your libertarian society is gone, and all you have left is more social democracy.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490718482 118669369,118692268,2017-03-28 16:30:42,">>118691277 >the very premise of ancapism I don't see what your trying to say here. If some land lord owns a fuck load of land the people have no were else to go because he keeps them poor so they can't leave, then he can basically he can enslave them because he is giving the privilege of living on his land?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490718642 118669369,118692562,2017-03-28 16:33:23,">>118682849 Aren't you talking about The Protestant Ethic by Max Weber? lmao And no, it's not a good book, he associates the ""birth of capitalism"" with the Protestant Reformation, but that's both theoretically and historically incorrect, Rothbard himself writes about this: https://mises.org/library/economics-calvin-and-calvinism An interesting reading.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490718803 118669369,118692691,2017-03-28 16:34:37,">>118691952 >based >Huerta de Soto The man who didn't believe in bitcoin",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490718877 118669369,118692790,2017-03-28 16:35:34,death to bluepilled nazi scum,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490718934 118669369,118693135,2017-03-28 16:38:24,">>118673067 This is literally the exact same way I feel about AnCap. I can't get all the way there because I want a border and a night-watchman state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490719104 118669369,118693175,2017-03-28 16:38:42,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490719122 118669369,118693222,2017-03-28 16:39:11,">>118692268 The personal freedom and your property rights. Your body is your property, too, thus anything you do with it (""work"") and what you create through it, except otherwise clearly distinguished, is your property too. Feudalism implies the landlord owns his workers as part of the ""work-land-partition""-thing (in lack of a better word). And it most likely does not come to that situation, I believe, as the people will most likely realize what the landlord would planning to do. And if they didn't then his attempt on making the workers his property is a violation of their property rights, thus, the insurance company will be payed to resolve the situation. I'm neither economist nor philosopher but I think it's like that.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490719151 118669369,118693274,2017-03-28 16:39:37,">>118692691 No one is perfect senpai",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490719177 118669369,118693495,2017-03-28 16:41:33,">>118669369 I keep a card in my wallet that reads ""I am no slave."" with a picture of a torch behind it. It helps remind me what I believe in. Anything you anon's do?",,Anonymous,no slave.jpg,rsrdfFFdMmyKXfz9fjb6LQ==,US,,1490719293 118669369,118693775,2017-03-28 16:43:42,">>118693135 Border thing and law etc. was explained above. I mean the point is .. everything that dereases state power in first place is welcomed at all. Be it ongoing decentralization or other things. I think this hits pretty well: >>118691952",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490719422 118669369,118693989,2017-03-28 16:45:29,">I also browse Reddit and bait post on /pol/ Holy shit im a libertarian micarchist and this is some cringe shit please for the love of god delet this",,Anonymous,Pretty sure thats a hook.jpg,GbVUvDPR0clypl5S61Wpqg==,US,,1490719529 118669369,118694009,2017-03-28 16:45:37,">>118693775 Well let's say AnCap became a reality. What do you do when another country takes advantage of this by bombing your shit or invading your communities to ""liberate"" your people?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490719537 118669369,118694082,2017-03-28 16:46:18,">>118693989 >>118693495 FUCK didn't tag you am retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490719578 118669369,118694270,2017-03-28 16:47:48,">>118693495 >>118693495 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0d-O2go9Po",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490719668 118669369,118694287,2017-03-28 16:47:56,">>118694009 Did you won Vietnam ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490719676 118669369,118694672,2017-03-28 16:51:07,">>118673616 Social boycott. They have their right to live the way they wish, but only in an anarchocapitalist society they would suffer their whole share of repercussions. No one has to put up (or pay) with lazy unemployed potheads and their likes, they all would have 0 welfare and general job protection laws. You don't need to put up with degenerates (freedom of association), you could also simply not employ black people, gays, women, you name it. These things all have social repercussions too, but you can choose whatever you like to do, whites only villages, you name it. If you're not an anarchocapitalist, you're no real conservative (morals).",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490719867 118669369,118694841,2017-03-28 16:52:25,">>118694009 Hit the aggressor with aggression. Everyone's going to be on your side, the insurance, the defense companies, other microstates. There's no way the aggressor will win at all. Even in case of occupation, the aggressor will be economically ostracized beyond oblivion and he's going to pay for everything he's thrown shit at. Ultima ratio: recreational nukes",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490719945 118669369,118695388,2017-03-28 16:57:03,">>118687472 >> Portugal didn't separate into two, with a Liberal North w/ Porto as capital by a very small chance. >worst fucking timeline we're living mate. Just imagine. I really wish the commies had taken Lisbon.",,Anonymous,1489877722084.png,EZfKO9faQX7Tki0l2M9GGw==,PT,,1490720223 118669369,118695548,2017-03-28 16:58:20,">>118673067 There is more than one solution to this problem.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490720300 118669369,118695743,2017-03-28 16:59:51,">>118674043 >THROW THOSE WHO INSULT PINOCHET FROM HELICOPTERS Nope.",,Anonymous,Hoppe fags aren't serious.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,US,,1490720391 118669369,118696045,2017-03-28 17:02:30,">>118695743 You say it as if it actually was a bad thing. Also nice to meet you again. Glad to see you monitoring these threads closely.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490720550 118669369,118696048,2017-03-28 17:02:31,">>118695743 Dumb fucking stormweeny gtfo with your crypto communism. Of course removal doesn't mean exermination. Are you some dense ass faggot ? Holy shit >tfw you don't know if satire or massive retardation anymore",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490720551 118669369,118696096,2017-03-28 17:02:59,">>118675917 >I don't know what's anarchocapitalism, so I'll call it feudalism because I don't know what it is either",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490720579 118669369,118696605,2017-03-28 17:07:19,">>118696045 >Glad to see you monitoring these threads closely. You know what they say about keeping your enemies close. >>118696045 >>118696048 Thanks for reconfirming. :^) YOU will be included in the helicopter rides right along with the communist/anarchist scum.",,Anonymous,Fasces.jpg,WlMKxUncK6FuJ/COL5+YMQ==,US,,1490720839 118669369,118696795,2017-03-28 17:08:58,">>118695388 Kek confirms. What a shame. God damn commies ruining everything for everyone.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490720938 118669369,118696895,2017-03-28 17:09:54,">>118696605 >t.alex jones worshiper gtfo with your delusional ethnic (((socialism)))",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490720994 118669369,118696916,2017-03-28 17:10:05,"I love libertarianism á la Rand, but I'm still puzzled about intellectual property and animal rights. I couldn't stand my neighbor torturing his animals and I think intellectual property would lead to monopolies, how bluepilled am I?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490721005 118669369,118697413,2017-03-28 17:13:56,">>118674861 >Right Wing Death Squads and Pinochet >Libertarian Whoever made that doesn't really know what they're talking about.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490721236 118669369,118697444,2017-03-28 17:14:16,">>118696916 >intellectual property Read Kinsella's book on IP. It's the fucking best. >animal rights You mean property rights? But yeah, I get it. I would like to live in a covenant where pets are treated nice, and torturing pets would grant expulsion. That's well within property rights.",,Anonymous,1485899909793.jpg,WnHhljWcIZhgLq63GqR1SQ==,PT,,1490721256 118669369,118697556,2017-03-28 17:15:13,">>118696916 Most Ancaps don't believe in intellectual property anymore. https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Without_Intellectual_Property https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Intellectual_property",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490721313 118669369,118697824,2017-03-28 17:17:14,">>118696895 >alex jones worshiper >ethnic (((socialism))) Just tossing out random words and hoping something sticks. And really, how goddamn DARE you use the image of a great man like Pinochet in your putrid, deception filled memes or even in your trash ideology. Pinochet himself would toss your filthy fucking unwashed anarchist ass right out of a heli. And while you only pretend (and lie) about helicopters, I can guaran-goddamn-tee you others are not. Goodbye.",,Anonymous,1488059261806.jpg,TY6TWKZkruToeeewd7AEeQ==,US,,1490721434 118669369,118697950,2017-03-28 17:18:10,">>118682750 I'm here to present to you a new trend: Technology makes capitalism unavoidable. Think about it.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490721490 118669369,118697974,2017-03-28 17:18:18,"New Thread >>118697757 >>118697757 >>118697757",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490721498 118669369,118698082,2017-03-28 17:19:09,">>118696916 Intellectual property is not property but coercion ok. >t.sephan kinsella",,Anonymous,kinw2.png,aOn7ZL4VBwSWhmtdSnKrCw==,PT,,1490721549 118669369,118698175,2017-03-28 17:19:51,">>118696096 It's also pretty ironic, considering the average communist party chairman has way more control over the lives of his serfs than any feudal lord ever had. *confiscating toothbrush intensifies* >>118696048 It is satire that has brought massive retardation. I unironically believe that the whole nazi thing here in /pol/ started as average people pretending to be nazis to scare progressives and actual nazis joining later thinking they were in good company. >>118696916 Intellectual property is no ""property"" at all. It is just a state granted monopoly. You can own a copy of whatever information you have under your control, be it a physical book, a file in your computer or similar, but you can not own the information itself and the limitless copies that could be made of it, specially when those copies are in posession of other people. I personally believe tha Rand was in favor of IP because it was beneficial to her. I don't know what specific arguments she used, though. The only kind of ""intellectual property"" that I can imagine existing in a stateless capitalist society would be bilateral contracts agreed to be enforced by some protection agency. For example non-disclosure agreements and as such. Another very harmful form of IP that exists today, patenting, wouldn't probably exist in any form at all. Patenting really hurts scientific research.",,Anonymous,1355554883526.png,yUmCWA8Gi8xDKWqurICUkg==,ES,,1490721591 118669369,118698209,2017-03-28 17:20:05,">>118697444 Kek agrees yet again! IP doesn't exist!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490721605 118669369,118699185,2017-03-28 17:27:55,">>118697444 >>118697556 >>118698082 >>118698175 Great info and resources on IP, it never made much sense for me in a libertarian society, sorry, Rand.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490722075 118669369,118699850,2017-03-28 17:33:19,Pinofags are 100% cringe.,,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490722399 118697757,118697757,2017-03-28 17:16:41,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) >Thread Tunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Socialism is TOTALLY ok when whites are enslaved Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1490721401 118697757,118698163,2017-03-28 17:19:46,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490721586 118697757,118698203,2017-03-28 17:20:03,">>118697757 Daily reminder that you are all my property",,Anonymous,1470234305283.png,vuP8GWa7syxzWRiRPV2ngw==,FI,,1490721603 118697757,118698353,2017-03-28 17:21:07,"HOPPE READING LIST: >Articles by Hans-Hermann Hoppe https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/hans-hermann-hoppe/ >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economics%20and%20Ethics%20of%20Private%20Property%20Studies%20in%20Political%20Economy%20and%20Philosophy_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline https://mises.org/system/tdf/A%20Short%20History%20of%20Man%20%E2%80%94%20Progress%20and%20Decline.pdf?file=1&type=document >Democracy - The God That Failed http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism https://mises.org/system/tdf/Theory%20of%20Socialism%20and%20Capitalism%2C%20A_4.pdf?file=1&type=document >From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy https://mises.org/system/tdf/From%20Aristocracy%20to%20Monarchy%20to%20Democracy_Hoppe_Text%202014.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Myth of National Defense: Essays on the Theory and History of Security Production https://mises.org/system/tdf/Myth%20of%20National%20Defense%2C%20The%20Essays%20on%20the%20Theory%20and%20History%20of%20Security%20Production_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Private Production of Defense https://mises.org/system/tdf/The%20Private%20Production%20of%20Defense_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Economic Science and the Austrian Method",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490721667 118697757,118698385,2017-03-28 17:21:23,">>118697757 Helicopter rides for socialists and commies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490721683 118697757,118698547,2017-03-28 17:22:37,">>118698203 Shitty philosophy, spooky words.... Ooooh is it haunted?",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1490721757 118697757,118698667,2017-03-28 17:23:38,">>118697757 MY NEW FAVORITE GENERAL LIBERTY OR DEATH BIRCHES",,Anonymous,gaston compact.png,wTJGl/XlvdV2g+Sn646DTA==,GB,,1490721818 118697757,118698759,2017-03-28 17:24:28,Friendly reminder all of these scumfucks are liars and deceivers.,,Anonymous,Hoppe fags aren't serious.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,US,,1490721868 118697757,118698889,2017-03-28 17:25:35,">>118698203 No YOU are my property",,Anonymous,image.jpg,CmqaMLo97LNjeq/McbC69Q==,FR,,1490721935 118697757,118698899,2017-03-28 17:25:39,">>118697950 >>118682750 I unironically believe this too. There is a little very short ebook by the FEE that enumerates many different technologies that evade state control (aka taxation and regulations). Like when Uber destroyed the taxi cartels, when AirBnB damaged hotel cartels and many many more. It's libertarianism from an agorist perspective.",,Anonymous,20150505_ScreenShot20150505at1.44.12PM.png,jVX4lZlN6f8celJ1klseEg==,ES,,1490721939 118697757,118698904,2017-03-28 17:25:43,">>118698759 If helicopters are necessary....",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490721943 118697757,118699044,2017-03-28 17:26:53,">>118697757 Post compasses",,Anonymous,image.jpg,7pFcOgBKGk6xdHUvSj6r1Q==,FR,,1490722013 118697757,118699151,2017-03-28 17:27:40,>>118699044,,Anonymous,politicas2.png,VdB/QaUxXs2hrWdzQON+Dw==,US,,1490722060 118697757,118699166,2017-03-28 17:27:47,">>118698759 >trusting a libertarian They probably are (((democrats))) as well. Commies violate the NAP and we have the moral justification to retaliation. People who tell you otherwise are status quo cheerleader who want everything to stay the same.",,Anonymous,1487451735980.jpg,HXm6SlOXkB8YFGT57fVQHQ==,DE,,1490722067 118697757,118699168,2017-03-28 17:27:48,">>118698899 Here in Portugal the taxi drivers are protesting and boycotting Uber because they want the state to take action and legislate and regulate them to make things ""fair.""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490722068 118697757,118699212,2017-03-28 17:28:12,">>118698759 Hahaha that's what you think.",,Anonymous,1487628925016.jpg,349hUf8Yd7F6ckkUCvBFug==,NL,,1490722092 118697757,118699236,2017-03-28 17:28:20,">>118699166 THIS H I S",,Anonymous,frogs.png,mLfQNRljK6sT++d9BhGRag==,PT,,1490722100 118697757,118699252,2017-03-28 17:28:33,">>118698547 >>118698889 Shut up property",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1490722113 118697757,118699258,2017-03-28 17:28:35,>>118699151,,Anonymous,PoliticalCompass_LotR.png,1VudVHTcyhHp8zOZ9CvV8A==,CA,,1490722115 118697757,118699284,2017-03-28 17:28:50,">>118698759 >t.every-angry stormweeny",,Anonymous,1490561222159.jpg,3aAie9mBpk9j94NUQkRqEg==,DE,,1490722130 118697757,118699363,2017-03-28 17:29:24,">>118699252 Nuh-uh!",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1490722164 118697757,118699371,2017-03-28 17:29:29,">>118699212 hmmm that's not the pic I uploaded at all",,Anonymous,1487733601764.jpg,auR+oQ+teS2EK2OEdqfqbw==,NL,,1490722169 118697757,118699465,2017-03-28 17:30:13,">>118699168 >unions Feels bad man.",,Anonymous,advanced autism.png,FIVKUThI0CDyl5zxEA31iw==,DE,,1490722213 118697757,118699502,2017-03-28 17:30:35,">>118699252 >perkele thinks that calling someone property is an argument poor perkele...",,Anonymous,hoppe-vs-stirner.png,TeH8OoNDCmu0IV9JpjQLNw==,PT,,1490722235 118697757,118699533,2017-03-28 17:30:54,">>118699252 Fight me",,Anonymous,image.jpg,7egVnt/+c4nN9Cr/JsD+WA==,FR,,1490722254 118697757,118699582,2017-03-28 17:31:09,,,Anonymous,my political compass.png,z5c7/ihelZlMxeZ/o0DBRQ==,US,,1490722269 118697757,118699640,2017-03-28 17:31:38,">>118699363 That animegirl will make a fine addition to my collection >>118699502 What was the argument about?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1490722298 118697757,118699870,2017-03-28 17:33:29,">>118699465 Is that your autism chart? My progression was from pic related (circa 2015)...",,Anonymous,myautism_00000.jpg,4WMgdebpAVu2bAGQmRlDAg==,PT,,1490722409 118697757,118699918,2017-03-28 17:33:58,"LRG-OG here. man these threads have been taking off. used to die half way through the day. I'm glad these threads have picked up lately. Why is that? Seriously, I'm gettng paranoid. I don't want reddit-cucks taking over our thread. I wanna make this clear, Pinochet is not really /myguy/ but you see this: >>118697413 This smells like allepo johnson levels of cuckery. I have to say that we NEED TO ostrasize newfags to assimilate. see me as a bad goy if you want these fags need to toughen up. This thread is for uncucking our brothers and preparing them for ideological battle. Not allowing them stay cringey redditarians. Any thoughts? Thank you, and Hoppe bless you all.",,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1490722438 118697757,118699973,2017-03-28 17:34:26,"Also daily reminder (((Hoppe))) is a liberal faggot and all of his deluded cult followers will be treated the same as the communist scum on the DOTR. Which means the ones pretending to give heli rides will get heli rides. You are literally no different from utopian ""revolutionaries"". That is all. Byebye.",,Anonymous,1488651469539.png,AoQ5XTqfqErKZ2zJtSeUog==,US,,1490722466 118697757,118700007,2017-03-28 17:34:38,">>118699533 You are just a spook",,Anonymous,d74.jpg,yN+3KKpX8/4c96NRY416gQ==,FI,,1490722478 118697757,118700079,2017-03-28 17:35:13,">>118699465 to this (circa 2016) And I've yet to update it to 2017 standards, but I don't think it gets edgier than my 2017 form. I've also yet to encounter a philosophy more logical and complete than anarcho-capitalism, and I love Rothbard and Hoppe so goddamn much I'll stick around 'till I'm dead.",,Anonymous,me updated 2016.jpg,i0W8ukK6+mlemJoof2PPTA==,PT,,1490722513 118697757,118700151,2017-03-28 17:35:54,">>118697757 >lolbertardian general ayyalamao >>118698353 >>Democracy - The God That Failed nice coincidence. someone recced me to read this book just hours ago. at least I have it downloaded now. we will see how many pages i will read before getting bored ayyniwayy. how do you have a taxation system without both property tax and capital gain tax? both can be very destructive in special cases but without them rich people could easily evade paying taxes alltogether >inb4 but we want to abolish the government and then you dont have to pay taxes at all yeah go ahead. Im waiting you stupid children. good luck",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490722554 118697757,118700218,2017-03-28 17:36:30,">>118699918 Thank you for service based yellow frog man. >>118699973 >(((Hoppe))) is a liberal faggot I don't know what's more delusional; the parenthesis, the liberal, or the faggot. My God, man. What an illiterate.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490722590 118697757,118700222,2017-03-28 17:36:31,">>118697757 Pinofags and Hoppefags are 100% cringe, as are helicopter memes. AnCap memeballs are good though, seeing as they're accurate.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1490722591 118697757,118700274,2017-03-28 17:36:51,">>118699918 I don't think it's so much about the newfags. It's just the demand for liberation and quality threads rose to unknown highs since election period and the constant spamming of bullshit faggotry. I can see people being fed up with nobrainer stormfag and drumpf threads, not to mention the amount of slide and shill shit",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490722611 118697757,118700291,2017-03-28 17:36:57,">>118699870 Holy shit, I remember your chart from old compass threads. I saw your progression, but I didn't save my old one, i continually updated it. I also was in the top right are, abou 7.0/4.0 until I became libertarian. Didn't take me long to reach the logical extreme.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490722617 118697757,118700370,2017-03-28 17:37:39,>>118697757,,Anonymous,books.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,US,,1490722659 118697757,118700395,2017-03-28 17:37:48,">>118698759 Nobody is deceiving you. It is mostly a meme, because Pinochet was an authoritarian so obviously in ancapistan such a thing would not occur in a very similar manner, however it is still true that physical removal would occur. You dont have to exterminate anybody, but lets say you have a community of ancaps, and one of their external borders there is a community of communists, and those communists try to come to ancapistan and push their bullshit, they will be politely asked to leave, if they refuse then all the armed citizens and their private security insurance companies would take immediate physical action to remove the invaders from their private property, without causing collateral damage of course. And there is nothing stopping a hypothetical security/insurance company from owning a helicopter and using that helicopter in their operations, it might even be part of the contract between the company and the consumer. All property that falls within their coverage might be protected from open communist incursion, or something like that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490722668 118697757,118700406,2017-03-28 17:37:54,">>118700007 No u",,Anonymous,image.jpg,CAl6/DPhNfDHErm1bxg6DA==,FR,,1490722674 118697757,118700632,2017-03-28 17:39:47,">>118700151 >how do you have a taxation system [...]? No such thing",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490722787 118697757,118700716,2017-03-28 17:40:25,">>118700632 should have kept reading dumb germ",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490722825 118697757,118700737,2017-03-28 17:40:33,">>118700291 Damnnn, those threads we're a very long time ago then! Man little did I know I was in for a freaking wild ride down the rabbit hole. I just did the 5 dimension test again, this is what I got. If I have time I'll do another updated chart. >>118700151 The moment he starts talking about time preference and linking it with the de-civilizing effects of democracy and the fall of the West since WW1 you'll seriously feel like reading the entire thing in one go.",,Anonymous,autism 2017.png,FCBxzeB66opaAHkT3m5jxg==,PT,,1490722833 118697757,118700794,2017-03-28 17:41:04,">>118699168 We had the exact same problem. Some court banned them from operating in this country and another app just took its place. Blablacar and many others. That's the cool thing with information technology and the internet. It's like the hydra, you cut one head and three new ones appear. That's why I believe agorism and counter-economics are the way the state is gonna lose in the long run. It benefits you so much individually to just say no to their cartels and bullshit that even the most leftist people, even if the obvious ridicule of regulation failure doesn't make them change their views, will use it anyway thus furthering the cause of freedom. Agorism and its countereconomics have an actual history of bringing down communism and making people regain their freedom. This is something that Konkin stressed much in his book ""An Agorist Primer"". For the libertarian that wants practical advice to further the cause and live according to his principles agorism is a well of wisdom. >>118700151 If you want a lighter libertarian read you could go for Anatomy of the State. I mean, if you're gona get bored anyways... https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf It's not like it's gonna change any views you have or something...",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490722864 118697757,118700801,2017-03-28 17:41:09,">>118700632 >inb4 roads",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490722869 118697757,118700987,2017-03-28 17:42:27,">>118700222 No they aren't accurate at all, they are massive strawman arguments. They are very funny though, this is true. But slavery for example would not exist in an ancap society, that is very basic and easy to understand, as there is no way to justify this without violating the NAP. Neither would there be any reason to privately use nukes. Ancap memeballs are not to be taken as serious criticisms, you can only do that if you lack even the most basic understanding of what ancap is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490722947 118697757,118701037,2017-03-28 17:42:52,">>118700716 So you ask about tax, the obvious answer is that there ain't no tax but you be like >answer without saying there ain't tax alright.",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1490722972 118697757,118701089,2017-03-28 17:43:17,">>118700794 I have absolutely no idea what Agorism is but now I'm interested. I'll research it. And yes, IT is the god tier way to remove consent from the state.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490722997 118697757,118701167,2017-03-28 17:43:52,">>118700395 Pretty much this. It's like when you own a store and some hobo tries shoplifting. You call the security guard and kick him out. That's physical removal. In ancapistan though you might get kicked out and banned from a street, a neighborhood or even an entire city.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490723032 118697757,118701441,2017-03-28 17:46:12,"Hitler was a socialist cuck Hoppe is the Aryan Übermensch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD6efV3dEPs",,Anonymous,hoppe2-1.jpg,A0p+nTMMAYcuGJWZhx6giQ==,BR,,1490723172 118697757,118701461,2017-03-28 17:46:18,,,Anonymous,polcom.png,V4TWICTq2vHRTbK1r6gqEQ==,US,,1490723178 118697757,118701488,2017-03-28 17:46:34,">>118700794 Agorism is really intersting. I find the idea of bringing down a system that opposes the free market by using free market techniques as weapon very intriguing",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490723194 118697757,118701582,2017-03-28 17:47:11,">>118700274 Fair enough, just please be paranoid about this becoming The Libertarian Party 2.0. I'm just saying when they start saying Hoppean Removal Squads, Rothbardian Right-Wing Populists, and Anarchist Helicopter Pilots = Storm-weenies its too late.",,Anonymous,AntiEgalitarian.png,V1y9uZd3xbO7JUzlF8YhNQ==,US,,1490723231 118697757,118701620,2017-03-28 17:47:32,">>118699465 btw do you have the link for the one that says Revolutionary Bourgeois?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490723252 118697757,118701744,2017-03-28 17:48:40,">>118701620 >Revolutionary Bourgeois sounds triggering, I like it.",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1490723320 118697757,118701766,2017-03-28 17:48:52,">>118699044 Are you me?",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-03-18 at 09.29.47.png,D16gdovCKCg34It9J6iPSQ==,DE,,1490723332 118697757,118701836,2017-03-28 17:49:28,">>118701620 https://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-political-moral-systems-test I really should start including the links to my autismo collage.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490723368 118697757,118701896,2017-03-28 17:49:59,">>118699044 Feel this is inaccurate tbf, it misconstrues having conservative social views with being authoritarian",,Anonymous,MyCompass.png,JJAO1UoijpRSj3Wa5U9wKg==,GB,,1490723399 118697757,118702003,2017-03-28 17:50:44,When is this autistic ideology going to die?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490723444 118697757,118702116,2017-03-28 17:51:34,">>118702003 Right after it removes you.",,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1490723494 118697757,118702158,2017-03-28 17:51:50,">>118701836 Indeed. I'll have to do this Mr. Autismo collage again because seeing Gordon Gekko, Milton Friedman, Transhumanism and Technocracy in that image made me cringe kek",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490723510 118697757,118702206,2017-03-28 17:52:13,">>118701836 Hey,I know you",,Anonymous,image.jpg,EHcY2lUQEnFZkJDhlPIn4g==,FR,,1490723533 118697757,118702218,2017-03-28 17:52:18,">>118697757 If you call yourself a libertarian and think Pinochet is /ourguy/ think about it twice. I wish you've been living here in the 80's, he established a curfew and if you were seen during night walking around town you would get shot, It didn't matter if you were a commie or not, truly a libertarian dream. I'm really glad he freed up the market but that's about it, he was an authoritarian dictator.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490723538 118697757,118702293,2017-03-28 17:52:56,">>118700794 >If you want a lighter libertarian read no. I like very concise and information dense reads. problem why I dont like reading books is usually they are 500 pages but you could put the same information in 10 pages",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490723576 118697757,118702476,2017-03-28 17:54:19,">>118701461 Kys yourself, you disgusting commie.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490723659 118697757,118702542,2017-03-28 17:54:50,">>118701836 >>118702206 wew lads What is happening here?",,Anonymous,pitchfork populist.png,30Bw2/pQ5Pc0vphAdsk1sA==,PT,,1490723690 118697757,118702602,2017-03-28 17:55:14,">>118702158 We all were young at one point. I had a phase where I'd have probably scored green. The last couple years have been a wild ride, no doubt.",,Anonymous,1472519227492.jpg,SqwWbbJqw52Z2rjMjVHR9w==,DE,,1490723714 118697757,118702734,2017-03-28 17:56:20,">>118702206 Thanks for providing the link last time, provided you are the frenchie I am thinking of right now.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490723780 118697757,118702804,2017-03-28 17:56:54,">>118697757 Physical Remawoooval",,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,US,,1490723814 118697757,118702808,2017-03-28 17:56:54,,,Anonymous,8a357a63c4a78040396ac4776ed9427f6da111c052d5cd89e110f3941216c47d_1.jpg,cOVEgR1MI0Ye1M/Jt4HG0Q==,BR,,1490723814 118697757,118703013,2017-03-28 17:58:32,">>118702116 >Cucks without a centralized organization based on force think they can do anything Kek. How do libertarians get this delusional? Oh wait it's the autism speaking",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490723912 118697757,118703079,2017-03-28 17:59:13,">>118702218 Libertarians and ancaps are too autistic to take facts into consideration",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490723953 118697757,118703145,2017-03-28 17:59:46,">>118701089 >>118701488 An Agorist Primer is the kickstart guide of the practicant libertarian. It includes education in basic economics and the core tenets of libertarianism plus a short summary of the history of the libertarian movement. That's where you find how libertarianism since its inception never really wanted to affect political change through the established political channels but rather by ""direct action"", so to speak (because direct action is actually a concept used by leftist anarchists, though it applies really well to agorism). Historically, it is the libertarian party that actually fucked the whole movement and turned it into something political (top to bottom) instead of social (bottom to top). This is the main reason I think most LP voters are terribly misguided and would be better off voting republican. http://www.kopubco.com/pdf/An_Agorist_Primer_by_SEK3.pdf This is the book that basically tells you ""isn't taxation theft? well protect yourself then"", and then recommends strategies for counter economic activity that both harm the state and benefit you personally. This dude explains it pretty well, in case you want a review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cynd4AINc70 tldr; #blackmarketsmatter",,Anonymous,agorism.jpg,AYgMqUA7E/RnXA0l/O018w==,ES,,1490723986 118697757,118703172,2017-03-28 18:00:01,">>118702542 Pretty based results portubro",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490724001 118697757,118703221,2017-03-28 18:00:28,">>118703013 >without a centralized organization based on force There's no centralization of force right now. States live side by side without a govt governing them. Seems like your premise isn't true.",,Anonymous,1485966395898.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1490724028 118697757,118703289,2017-03-28 18:01:01,">>118703013 >>118703079 >only repeats ""autism"" every time he posts You might be off the spectrum yourself, lad. If you're really into sonic or trains you should get yourself checked.",,Anonymous,1482619505341.png,Y2D60qO5fyTpNOcjNjoiZg==,DE,,1490724061 118697757,118703358,2017-03-28 18:01:35,">>118702808 >Property ownership in ancommistan At least try to understand basic politics you dumb huemonkey",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724095 118697757,118703381,2017-03-28 18:01:46,">>118703013 >wants daddy state to control everything >call us cuck Lulz",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490724106 118697757,118703441,2017-03-28 18:02:18,what is the point of being ancap? it's not like the state is ever going to dissolve,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724138 118697757,118703460,2017-03-28 18:02:29,">>118703358 That's the joke",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490724149 118697757,118703495,2017-03-28 18:02:42,">>118703221 It's a federal system you drooling retard The federal government rules over the states. Don't like it? Then try to secede.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724162 118697757,118703584,2017-03-28 18:03:23,">>118703289 As a German and an ancap you probably have double autism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724203 118697757,118703602,2017-03-28 18:03:36,">>118701896 >>118701836 Am I still allowed in the club guys?",,Anonymous,Hello quizzy.png,FqYU+kB13hv8kIakT6DdNA==,GB,,1490724216 118697757,118703633,2017-03-28 18:03:52,">>118702218 bro you know that is a joke no?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490724232 118697757,118703692,2017-03-28 18:04:20,What do you guys plan on doing about police force?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724260 118697757,118703718,2017-03-28 18:04:33,">>118702542 kill all collectivists",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-03-29 at 00.03.41.png,8XEbWF7UAKapGPlZGk/fXA==,DE,,1490724273 118697757,118703720,2017-03-28 18:04:34,">>118703441 >What's the point of wanting bad things to change? It's not like people ever were able to make a change. Just be happy with what you have right now and let the politicians do as they please, they know what's best for us.",,Anonymous,1488661040588.jpg,LuqTAYayBFsDCSDgwkqyxw==,DE,,1490724274 118697757,118703797,2017-03-28 18:05:14,">>118703602 The fuck is McCain doing here Reagan and Tatcher I can get it but this fucking rat",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490724314 118697757,118703811,2017-03-28 18:05:18,">>118703381 >Wants There will always be a sovereign over a geographical piece of land, either it's you or it's the government If it's you then your the king and the effectively the government I'm describing the real world. Go ahead and larp in your autistic fantasy land though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724318 118697757,118703813,2017-03-28 18:05:19,">>118703495 You're joking right? I wasn't talking about the states in the USA. I was very obviously talking about States on this planet. They don't have centralization of powers between them. They live in a state of anarchy between them. Therefore, your premise is false.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490724319 118697757,118703882,2017-03-28 18:05:55,">>118700151 >how do you have a taxation system without both property tax and capital gain tax? both can be very destructive in special cases but without them rich people could easily evade paying taxes alltogether still nobody managed to give a good answer",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490724355 118697757,118703926,2017-03-28 18:06:18,">>118703145 Agorism is the only leftist idea I don't find totally retarded.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490724378 118697757,118703940,2017-03-28 18:06:23,">>118702218 Forgot to add this.",,Anonymous,tpp.png,kj3tGJ5nDE7tPZ/B3Z09MA==,CL,,1490724383 118697757,118703951,2017-03-28 18:06:29,">>118703720 >Just be happy with what you have right now and let the politicians do as they please, they know what's best for us. not what i said at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724389 118697757,118703995,2017-03-28 18:06:48,">>118703718 >I will use a single individual to kill a collective Good luck, autist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724408 118697757,118704001,2017-03-28 18:06:49,">>118703797 I was quite upset tbf. Real heros don't get captured, and work for a PMC",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490724409 118697757,118704052,2017-03-28 18:07:16,">>118703602 Disgusting statist pig.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490724436 118697757,118704149,2017-03-28 18:08:05,">>118698759 I am actually in favour of helicoptering commies though... although I'm only talking older ones or actual agitators, I think a 16 year old caught with a copy of the communist manifesto or quotations from Mao shouldn't be killed as they'll grow out of it",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490724485 118697757,118704182,2017-03-28 18:08:23,">>118703813 >state of anarchy No they're the sovereign over their specific geographical region How are you this fucking stupid?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724503 118697757,118704209,2017-03-28 18:08:37,">>118703995 >what is a recreational nuke",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490724517 118697757,118704234,2017-03-28 18:08:50,">>118703951 But you implied it. Political apathism is what brought us into this mess to begin with and what you said pretty much advocates that. >>118703995 >being against collectivism means living as hermit Try strawmanning harder, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490724530 118697757,118704293,2017-03-28 18:09:18,">>118703811 >If it's you then your the king Sounds good man.",,Anonymous,1468745381337.jpg,1bvqcQY7gUIhs355SBxWAA==,SI,,1490724558 118697757,118704381,2017-03-28 18:09:56,"Fuck yes! I'm ready!. I AM SERIOUS ABOUT THE DAY OF THE REMOVAL PEOPLE. I will violate the NAP when the commies come. Don't fucking tread on me.",,Anonymous,Pepe.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1490724596 118697757,118704475,2017-03-28 18:10:46,">>118703633 Mememagic is real.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490724646 118697757,118704480,2017-03-28 18:10:52,">>118704381 KEK WRONG IMAGE.",,Anonymous,Me.jpg,dgp5vaHvlPCHVhE0hkGlKg==,US,,1490724652 118697757,118704512,2017-03-28 18:11:08,what is it with ancaps and naps?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724668 118697757,118704527,2017-03-28 18:11:18,">>118704381 >I will violate the NAP when the commies come. Self defense is not a violation of the NAP. The NAP doesn't apply to commies.",,Anonymous,political-compass.png,CLe8g50CyHO5lt8gK4rDYQ==,DE,,1490724678 118697757,118704552,2017-03-28 18:11:28,">>118702218 It's like when some idiot here in /pol/ praises Franco. That regime was so fucking shit. Only Americans would joke so easily about something as terrible as living under a dictatorship. It wasn't even some kind of free market guy, since he considered [classical] liberalism ""degenerate"", and so did free trade, and private property to some extent. Which is pretty much what all fascism is about. The state controls the means of production, but indirectly, through legislation and price controls, causing shortages of pretty much everything and leaving a Venezuela-tier starving populace. We had like four decades of rationing, price controls, very authoritarian policing, catholic indoctrination at schools and the worst thing of all time, something that even leftists that hate him always praise: social security. >>118703926 I don't consider agorism leftist and I don't understand why there's people who do. Agorism is just revolutionary capitalism. Agorism is free trade even when banned. Smuggling, contraband, and trafficking is what have brought down communism in Eastern Europe and kept most Europeans, and even Spaniards alive in the terrible post-war rationing stage that states always enforce.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490724688 118697757,118704559,2017-03-28 18:11:32,">>118703602 You've got your heart at the right spot if that description fits you. You'll realize isolationism is a huge factor of protecting liberty sooner or later.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490724692 118697757,118704567,2017-03-28 18:11:39,">>118703633 >I was only pretending",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724699 118697757,118704663,2017-03-28 18:12:19,">>118704182 State of anarchy BETWEEN them. Sovereign in a x area. Like private property anarchism. You stated that there needs to be a centralization of force. You're wrong and you know it you fucking stupid yank.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490724739 118697757,118704687,2017-03-28 18:12:33,">>118697757 PHYSICAL removal from a VIRTUAL place",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724753 118697757,118704699,2017-03-28 18:12:37,">>118704512 Dodging tomahawk missiles is hard work.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490724757 118697757,118704895,2017-03-28 18:14:07,">>118704381 You will remove nothing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490724847 118697757,118704983,2017-03-28 18:14:52,">>118704552 >I don't consider agorism leftist and I don't understand why there's people who do. Agorism is just revolutionary capitalism. Agorism is insofar capitalist that it limits the market to small businesses. Agorists don't like the idea of bigger corporations. Which is where leftism starts: If you want to prevent big corporations you need to control the market - ie leftism. I respect SEK III for what he came up with. But his idea has limits.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490724892 118697757,118705037,2017-03-28 18:15:15,">>118699918 I've been here since Obama's first round and I was in his side. The more I learned, the more light I saw, the more conservative I became. By round 2, I was moderate, and I voted Trump this time. Now, I have found new light, and my foundation is strong enough to evaluate accurately the events happening around me. I have reached a level of understanding further than anyone around me. My views changed from ""what's good for me"" to ""what's good for us"" to ""We need to escape this Earth, this solar system, this Galaxy, this universe, before our efforts are smited; all of our arguments are Petty and it's time to get a grip."" My grades go up, major changes from Herpetology to particle physics. I took... The yellowpill? I hate how easy it is to stay alive, to thrive. Right-libertarianism is the only way we can release our selfish ways and ascend.",,Tom,Pokemon - Emerald Version (U)_1489273416929.png,Vt2v7stxf8PLbs4Y1O0P0g==,US,,1490724915 118697757,118705173,2017-03-28 18:16:19,">>118704527 Thank you for understanding, its just that these fuckers want to spend my money on ""public parks"" and ""roads"" its bullshit. All this money I could be saving up for a huey and some farmland for when the shit hits the fan.",,Anonymous,1490140819443.jpg,7g1XBZvSMdm5PbWTSlci0w==,US,,1490724979 118697757,118705342,2017-03-28 18:17:43,">>118704983 To be honest, all the hate for big corporations is partly shared by AnCaps, only in another way. Big corporations imply lobbyism, nepotism and corporate welfare given out by a interventionist government. In a laissez faire economy you don't have the problem of big exploitive corporations, since those vanish in the light of competition.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490725063 118697757,118705691,2017-03-28 18:20:29,">>118704052 Is this better?",,Anonymous,Spekr.png,3jQzd9dqJqFYjN5Q5idAdQ==,GB,,1490725229 118697757,118706015,2017-03-28 18:23:03,">>118704559 I do, not too sure why I got that tbqh, I do think that the state has a responsibility to protect individuals from threats to their fundamental rights (life, liberty and property) which includes maintaining a military, however intervening in other nations isn't really my cup of tea. I'll redo tomorrow and see what happens.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490725383 118697757,118706231,2017-03-28 18:24:37,">>118705691 Bro",,Anonymous,image.jpg,rGYLyhrb3RU83STx3GGDlg==,FR,,1490725477 118697757,118706359,2017-03-28 18:25:36,">>118704895 Why don't you get off my lawn you pretty boy fashy side-shave haircut little manlet bitch? why don't you get a fucking job. Bitch.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1490725536 118697757,118706500,2017-03-28 18:26:46,">>118706231 You absolute authoritarian",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490725606 118697757,118706528,2017-03-28 18:26:59,">>118706015 Minarchists are definetely ok in my books, but people saying ""the only difference between a libertarian and an AnCap is a year"" don't joke, this place will radicalize you, eventually. I know it did the trick for me.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490725619 118697757,118706533,2017-03-28 18:27:00,">>118703145 I'll definitely look into that book. Sounds awesome. >>118702602 Indeed. First time I did the compass I oscillated between anarcho-syndicalism and green socialism. Absolutely abhorrent. >>118703172 Thanks!",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1490725620 118697757,118706895,2017-03-28 18:29:48,">>118706359 >you pretty boy fashy side-shave haircut little manlet bitch? I have a full head of hair (that I neatly comb) and I'm 6'4"".",,Anonymous,1408558711692.png,mA2oHBCubgFf+o2SKOLWow==,US,,1490725788 118697757,118707047,2017-03-28 18:30:58,">>118704983 I don't think I understand your point. I believe that you might have misinterpreted something about agorism: Agorists aren't against big corps per se, what they argue is that if there actually was more economic freedom enterprise at such scale would never have happened in the first place. That they are usually ""big"" because of regulations and laws tailored to their interests. They aren't against the scale of enterprise being as big as it could get, they just aren't for enterprise that got big not because its own merits but rather because the state was shielding it from competition somehow. It's like that thing Ron Paul said, more or less: ""If you have a monopoly because you produce the best car imaginable and nobody wants to buy from anyone else that's great and I support you, but if you got a monopoly because the state is protecting you from competition that has got to end."" A good example is Microsoft. Without copyright licensing enforcement (a state monopoly) it would never have gotten a fraction of as big as it is today. The market for software programming would actually be occupied by many other companies, Microsoft being just a small one taking a really small share. As a matter of fact, if it were not for copyright laws I believe Microsoft wouldn't even exist, as you can't really get away with fucking over your customers so much in a really free market. >>118706015 We are so fucked by propaganda nowadays that we equate the idea of free markets to war, and being antiwar has become synonym of protectionist, when it actually is the opposite. You can't at the same time trade with someone and declare them a war.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490725858 118697757,118707078,2017-03-28 18:31:10,">>118706895 Thanks for feeling like you had to prove your height, cuckboy.",,Anonymous,1490174239415.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,US,,1490725870 118697757,118707177,2017-03-28 18:31:53,">>118704480 No, that image was perfect anon. >French Revolution",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1490725913 118697757,118707346,2017-03-28 18:33:14,"Where would this put me on the political compass, I usually get solid purple but I think that they don't ask enough to get the full picture. >inb4 edgy opinions I know it can seem that way at first thought",,Anonymous,feels superior mang.png,B1BBQZLmbSYCm9DrdS2Eew==,GB,,1490725994 118697757,118707447,2017-03-28 18:33:57,">>118707177 I know its bad. I just love America so much it outweighs my freedom and makes me look like a commie. I'm sure if I lived in canada it wouldn't be the same.",,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1490726037 118697757,118707515,2017-03-28 18:34:32,">>118707078 Inaccurate accusations demand truth. And I'm not NatSoc. I actually don't fit into any one specific group because my positions are more nuanced. But I am authoritarian.",,Anonymous,Fasces eagle.png,Li4mW7rhbxD2hXqPojupfA==,US,,1490726072 118697757,118707773,2017-03-28 18:36:28,">>118707515 kek, ok.",,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1490726188 118697757,118707822,2017-03-28 18:36:51,">>118707515 >I'm not like the other gir-.. authoritarians.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490726211 118697757,118708388,2017-03-28 18:41:10,">>118707447 >and makes me look like a commie. Makes no difference to me. >>118707822 Well obviously I am. It's just my ideas and positions don't really fit into any single specific group. I'm also open to other things. For example, as of late, I've been looking more into monarchy and clerical fascism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490726470 118697757,118708550,2017-03-28 18:42:25,">>118707346 I think you'd be in favor of a benevolent dictatorship, the problem with that is that as long as such a system is too powerful and represents many people it is prone to turning into a opressive tyranny only interested in preserving itself. Full on Anarcho Capitalism (at least the Hoppe variant) doesn't mean a society void of organization and morals, you'd just have small city states (practically gated communities) that govern themselves and have their own lawsrather than being governed by a unifying central government. Only if you agree with their laws you join that community, nobody forces you to join or stay, not like in our current situation.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490726545 118697757,118708848,2017-03-28 18:44:44,">>118705342 Those problems disappear once there's no government to lobby or corrupt. Being against big corporations just because they are big is leftist hogwash.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490726684 118697757,118708929,2017-03-28 18:45:27,">>118704663 Anarchy only exists in a geographical region without sovereigns Since governments are sovereign there can be no anarchy on Earth aside from areas outside of government jurisdiction Only an idiot thinks that sovereign entities competing are comparable to individuals in a state of anarchy (no sovereign rulers whatsoever)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490726727 118697757,118708999,2017-03-28 18:45:56,">>118707447 I can understand that, you burgers sure have a atleast somewhat decent ruling class at times, something we europoors can't say. We get fucked by our nations on a daily basis, be it by the politicians or by the nation's sheep like inhabitants.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490726756 118697757,118709051,2017-03-28 18:46:18,">>118708848 >Government will magically go away if you wish hard enough Kek The autism never ceased",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490726778 118697757,118709150,2017-03-28 18:47:06,">>118708999 We are ruled by a nepotistic jewish elite",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490726826 118697757,118709279,2017-03-28 18:48:05,">>118706895 Now the moment you've all been waiting for, the biggest faggot in the thread award goes toooooo- FASHY FAGGOT KEK BOY!!!! Yet again another profound victory from the 5'11"", SJW, larping, race mixed, deviant degenerate with the dicks tattooed all over his arms. Get the fuck out Jayden.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490726885 118697757,118709331,2017-03-28 18:48:35,">>118708848 That's what I said, What I meant is that these ""big corporations"" don't exist either, since ""big"" in the sense of exploitive and monopolistic isn't possible in anarcho capitalism. I in no way oppose ""big"" in the sense of successful businesses.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490726915 118697757,118709686,2017-03-28 18:51:24,"Would the Germans in this wonderful thread be so kek and tell me what they will vote in the upcoming elections? Only reasonable Libertarian party we've got (Partei der Vernunft/party of reason - ironically) has only like 500 members and will never make into any parliament.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490727084 118697757,118709692,2017-03-28 18:51:27,">>118709150 At least you got some sort of resistance and anti communism. Here in Europe the welfare state is non negotiable. We've got several fucking meme parties that want to reclaim lost territory of the German Empire but not a single one that wants to end the gibs. The elites got us on the balls.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490727087 118697757,118709714,2017-03-28 18:51:39,">>118709279 >5'11"", SJW, larping, race mixed, deviant degenerate with the dicks tattooed all over his arms. Childlike tumblr post aside, none of this even makes sense. NatSocs abhor tattoos, race mixing, and degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490727099 118697757,118709978,2017-03-28 18:53:48,">>118709686 AfD, because this is the only logical vote in order to decrease the state influence and stir shit up. Everything else is socialism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490727228 118697757,118710163,2017-03-28 18:55:15,">>118709714 TOP KEK stop trying to blend in we all now you're that faggot from /v/ who keeps making ""How do we get rid of /pol/"" threads. I found your post in the ban list just now, how do you keep evading your bans and trying to infiltrate us? Just go back we don't want you here.",,Anonymous,efB88uJL Exposed.png,oJdH/N9lf8/oPR2XeSKJAQ==,US,,1490727315 118697757,118710252,2017-03-28 18:56:01,">>118709686 >Would the Germans in this wonderful thread be so kek and tell me what they will vote in the upcoming elections? >voting >violating the nap >expecting to change something lol kys urself statist nigger",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490727361 118697757,118710442,2017-03-28 18:57:42,">>118710163 >we all now you're that faggot from /v/ Fucking what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490727462 118697757,118710526,2017-03-28 18:58:22,">>118709686 I already explained that in a AfD thread, so you might have heard that from me: I will vote the AfD, since no party is going to end the social state you can't hang yourself up on them neither doing it. They definetely don't represent my views 100%, but they have the most potential to majorly fuck up the establishment, which frankly consists of every party that can for a coalition (including Die Linke) Especially the FDP is an anit libertarian choice, not only do they now support yelllow red green to get into power, but also they support the EU, which in my opinion is the biggest issue of this election, since the EU is the single most dangerous thing to liberty right now, another point for the AfD. At this point, voting should solely focus on disrupting the status quo. Voting on a regional level is a bit different for me, though. I live in Bavaria, so I am in favor of independence, since seperatism is an incredible tool for achieving libertarian goals, that's why I will vote the Bavarian party, able to disrupt the status quo even more than the AfD with even less votes, needing only 5% to be incredibly posionous for the establishment.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490727502 118697757,118710656,2017-03-28 18:59:35,">>118708999 My nationalism isn't about my rulers, its our history, culture and our fuck you reds get out attitude that I want to preserve .",,Anonymous,snek (15).png,7pxzBOPQMBcE7IN8NsL3ZQ==,US,,1490727575 118697757,118710798,2017-03-28 19:00:46,">>118709978 I agree, same reasoning for me. >>118710252 Ok have fun in your anarchist kid's room, I'm sure you will change much more kek. And when the Socialists finally established their EU Collectivist regime, you can proudly tell your would be children aka the sperm in your socks, you were too cool and too Anarcho to vote shit.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490727646 118697757,118710815,2017-03-28 19:00:53,">>118710252 Either you vote something that gets the gears grinding or you form a party or association to stir shit up yourself withing the framework that we got at the moment. Everything else is just raging in the night on a chinese majong production board. And that's pathetic as fuck >>118710526 Exactly what I meant (>>118709978)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490727653 118697757,118710993,2017-03-28 19:02:22,">>118710526 FDP is a bad joke gone from worse to worst over the last decades. As Bavarian you're lucky to have the CSU as alternative to the massively cucked CDU, I mean come on they're not even real Conservatives anymore...",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490727742 118697757,118710994,2017-03-28 19:02:23,">>118706528 Been here that long, I just don't want to be treded on really",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490727743 118697757,118711175,2017-03-28 19:03:44,"reminder that america needs to take a hard constitutional stance soon in its politics or it'll be gone forever we need another 1776",,Anonymous,America.jpg,t+bu+V/ATUR3lttMmQwCzQ==,US,,1490727824 118697757,118711323,2017-03-28 19:05:09,">>118710656 Believe me, I adore my culture and history, but seeing fellow countrymen shit all over it for the sake of tolerance not only breaks my heart, it also destroys every form of traditional nationalism in me. Germany is very different depending on location, realizing this has turned me into a regionalist, only caring for the people I know and that are close to me. That's one of the major reasons that turned me to Hoppe libertarianism, his idea of communities is something I can get fully behind.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490727909 118697757,118711536,2017-03-28 19:06:45,">>118710994 Don't feel bad, unlike with NatSocs, we really can be allies.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490728005 118697757,118711956,2017-03-28 19:10:10,">>118710993 The thing about the CSU is, most of them are barking dogs that either don't want or are not able to bite. They are stuck in Mama Merkel's ass and will be as long as they stay allied with her. If they went a seperate route and did their own thing, competing against the CDU, they'd regain a lot of credibility they have lost over the past months.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490728210 118697757,118712060,2017-03-28 19:11:04,>>118699044,,Anonymous,chart (1).png,c7AB74tyl+nJbFJh4c2u4A==,US,,1490728264 118697757,118712131,2017-03-28 19:11:34,">>118699151 You're getting there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490728294 118697757,118712203,2017-03-28 19:12:15,"So I'm pretty ignorant about all the different types of right wing there are, what exactly does Pinochet fall under? Because my dad really seems to like the guy, he also has a seething, venomous hatred for Commies and lefties and I quite like that",,Anonymous,One Less Red.jpg,xceN49S/d9eb5P4djlwkMw==,US,,1490728335 118697757,118712503,2017-03-28 19:15:02,death to nazi scum and white nationalists,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490728502 118697757,118712701,2017-03-28 19:16:47,,,Anonymous,1490556132151.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1490728607 118697757,118712771,2017-03-28 19:17:21,Last friendly bonk for the night,,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU2NjY4NjQ3My5qcGcifQ.jRA9sqm02dUhW5XpJf1z9xHGd00.jpg,pvmnkuUUzHNOvOX6gnelBg==,DE,,1490728641 118697757,118712855,2017-03-28 19:18:00,">>118712503 Looks like Shareblue is edgy now.",,Anonymous,1479610409539.jpg,mvx+YrQ1VLrXN/mvvSzIfA==,US,,1490728680 118697757,118712882,2017-03-28 19:18:14,">>118712503 LOLSPERGS gtfo fucking Civicuck nu/pol /leftypol/ basement dwelling NEET's",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490728694 118697757,118713053,2017-03-28 19:19:24,">>118712503 Don't be a fag dude. are you right off the reddit train? this has gotta be /nsg/ doing recon work. no real libtard would post this shit here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490728764 118697757,118713186,2017-03-28 19:20:20,">>118712503 >he wants to take people the right of free association Fuck off commie, in AnCapistan you can have a gated community and ban as many races as you please. No right is sweeter than the right of discrimination",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490728820 118697757,118713393,2017-03-28 19:22:05,">>118712882 >Libertarian >nupol /pol/ was always Libertarian you dumb fuck. It wasn't until the election that you fucking stormfags ruined this place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490728925 118697757,118713531,2017-03-28 19:23:06,">>118701836 ayy the results changed for me based on which gender I chose",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490728986 118697757,118713628,2017-03-28 19:23:55,">>118697757 bump",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490729035 118697757,118713859,2017-03-28 19:25:51,">>118713186 >No right is sweeter than the right of discrimination.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,US,,1490729151 118697757,118714032,2017-03-28 19:27:14,nothing more american than baseball and ancap,,Anonymous,american-flag-baseball-bat.jpg,g1ljfm3afo7L83in1RXppA==,US,,1490729234 118697757,118714298,2017-03-28 19:29:13,">>118713393 > /pol > LOLsperg > always > muh sturmfayugsss Yup you are a lolsperg civicuck nu/male nu/pol basement dwelling manlet beta cuck shill le_donald plebbit faggot. /Pol has always been a NatSoc, Fascist, White Nationalist, White Identity Political board that real far right wingers used to come without kike media censoring shit all the time. You faggot LOLIS came after the Trump election. You are all fucking cancer and you follow an ideology that was invented by filthy kikes. You are also (((Civic Nationalists))), that's undercover MultiCULTuralism that the kikes want to push into White Identity Politics and they have used you stupid lolspergs to do it. You faggots are just edgy kids that saw the HWNDU stream one day and thought .. > OH LOOK AT LE BASED FAG, NEGRO, CHINK, SPIC You Lolis are also mostly non-whites pushing this stupid Civicuck ideology. You should all crawl back into Le_Donald and stay there you cucks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490729353 118697757,118714472,2017-03-28 19:30:32,,,Anonymous,political compass march 28th.jpg,9RUzwX7jJauqxkTlxxVGEw==,US,,1490729432 118697757,118714599,2017-03-28 19:31:35,">>118714472 reminder that the american system can only be salvaged by another revolution, the swamp must be drained by force",,Anonymous,purge gov.jpg,YGRUJnT9Mj6g/2qOnLmq6Q==,US,,1490729495 118697757,118714999,2017-03-28 19:35:05,">>118714298 >National SOCIALISTS >real right wingers",,Anonymous,kurdishqtslaughing.jpg,JZ2gVnDCe6T+yvbqaDx7/w==,DE,,1490729705 118697757,118715100,2017-03-28 19:35:56,">>118698163 No Road to Serfdom? >>118699044",,Anonymous,chart.png,SZx4dbNNB6JRB+qSHntw6w==,GB,,1490729756 118697757,118715349,2017-03-28 19:38:00,">>118714999 > LOLSPERGS > NOT KIKE SLAVES",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490729880 118697757,118715361,2017-03-28 19:38:08,">>118697757 BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!",,Orlando de Moraes Féria,,,BR,,1490729888 118697757,118715362,2017-03-28 19:38:08,">>118714298 ...you're a moron. /pol/ has always been Libertarian. Where the fuck do you think the doom Paul memes came from? We practically worshiped the guy in 2012.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490729888 118697757,118715448,2017-03-28 19:38:58,>>118715362,,Anonymous,ron-paul-its-happening.gif,KFAYbegPKPAte4/DB+13dA==,US,,1490729938 118697757,118715729,2017-03-28 19:40:49,">>118714298 looks like this one got an OD of redpills kek",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490730049 118697757,118715790,2017-03-28 19:41:14,">>118715349 >da white man must lick the boots of the führer and give up his money so other whites can be fed by daddy gubmint >lol, you dumb freedom lovers are slaves",,Anonymous,1489712602216.png,eLv7uXYoxj2tHuueH2AZQw==,DE,,1490730074 118697757,118716095,2017-03-28 19:43:41,,,Anonymous,1490118189479.png,f5pmF6Cdg6sB6TwuKGB4+g==,US,,1490730221 118697757,118716531,2017-03-28 19:47:21,">>118715790 He's bait my friend. Every sane being knows the horsheshoe theory applies and NatSocs and Commies are the different sides of the same rusty coin.",,Anonymous,1489083374742.jpg,gfYDVGzWkaILXGUXDQcyJA==,DE,,1490730441 118697757,118716695,2017-03-28 19:48:37,">>118697757 If you're a libertarian, why would you be advocating the forceful removal of communist flags? It's not like it affects you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490730517 118697757,118716880,2017-03-28 19:50:06,">>118716531 That's not even horseshoe, Nazis are pretty much the same as commies, switching one issue (national/international) doesn't make you the polar opposite.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490730606 118697757,118717326,2017-03-28 19:53:44,>>118699044,,Anonymous,LibertatianRIGHT.png,pjGbfQ42kYGh5e+i9aFT9A==,BR,,1490730824 118697757,118717356,2017-03-28 19:54:01,">>118711175 I give it less than 50 years, considering that my waste of human sperm generation will be running the country by then",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490730841 118697757,118717494,2017-03-28 19:55:02,">>118716880 Well Communists atleast try to claim for themselves that they're not Authotarian... Reality ofc told us another story. But this pattern seems all too typicial for the Extremists. Whether they're left, right or Islamist: They're all delusional as fuck.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490730902 118697757,118717508,2017-03-28 19:55:10,">>118716695 If commies kept to themselves and didn't try to force their ideology onto us they'de be fine, but since they don't and the are doing exactly that, they are violating the NAP and need to be neutralized. Once AnCapistan is achieved people can install communism in their own community for all I care, just don't make people join in against their will.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490730910 118697757,118717694,2017-03-28 19:56:45,">>118716695 The same reason I advocate for the forceful removal of bears from my house",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490731005 118697757,118717854,2017-03-28 19:57:57,">>118716880 Anarchism is actually the little brother of communism. The communists talked alot about the state ""withering away"". The real goal of both anarchism and communism is the destruction of western christian culture.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490731077 118697757,118717962,2017-03-28 19:58:54,">>118716695 Libertarians, Hoppeans in specific, believe in property rights. We want to form contractual neighborhoods, and even cities. Libertarians would want a contract that states the forceful removal of what tries to go against such contract. Also commies threat others with force by nature, and thus, punishment is deserved.",,Anonymous,1486168300130.png,a0Td5yItUMJ6QHaV4jE6ug==,PT,,1490731134 118697757,118718003,2017-03-28 19:59:10,">>118717694 >2017 >being a bearophobe It's like you're not even trying to hide that you are an ebil nadsi.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490731150 118697757,118718029,2017-03-28 19:59:21,">>118717508 yea, but for now, there's no practical way to bring about ancapistan anywhere in the world. remember how icbms exist? i'll settle for capitalist nationalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490731161 118697757,118718640,2017-03-28 20:04:17,"OBLIGATORY CANTWELL, THE PATRON SAINT OF LIBERTARIANISM AND ANCAP",,Anonymous,cantwell.png,Df85/seCrsdOoL45kFMS4A==,CA,,1490731457 118697757,118719288,2017-03-28 20:10:28,">>118718640 EVERYTHING IS A KEK!",,Anonymous,chris_cantwell_thereofre_aliens.jpg,viMOxnAKD4A9Sy0V3N/pMg==,US,,1490731828 118697757,118719323,2017-03-28 20:10:46,">>118717854 >laissez faire capitalism >little brother of communism So you believed what the government funded (((history teachers))) have told you about freedom loving and in theory great communism, I see. Also, answer me this, how is statism helping western civilization right now?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490731846 118697757,118719420,2017-03-28 20:11:38,">>118719288 wait, i said c u c k not kek >censorship test: cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490731898 118697757,118719475,2017-03-28 20:12:04,">>118718029 Well, getting rid of the (aggressive) commies is one important step to reaching a free society.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490731924 118697757,118719534,2017-03-28 20:12:35,">>118719475 agreed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490731955 118697757,118719557,2017-03-28 20:12:48,">>118719420 it gets wordfiltered if you write it in caps. KEK",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490731968 118697757,118719614,2017-03-28 20:13:14,,,Anonymous,anarcuntery.jpg,I/ylxYFfG6+DY3yInQLI5Q==,BR,,1490731994 118697757,118719682,2017-03-28 20:13:58,,,Anonymous,Tax is theft.jpg,DtzH+ccW1R6Rz3MeOTH/ew==,BR,,1490732038 118697757,118719697,2017-03-28 20:14:06,">>118719557 fail",,Anonymous,kill_it_with_fire_square.jpg,68xB3xO69cEs3qzFOujS0w==,US,,1490732046 118697757,118719736,2017-03-28 20:14:25,,,Anonymous,13561541_250643835316786_1449003808_n.jpg,6uwz3XTRwPrkZcC2/Pi2nw==,BR,,1490732065 118697757,118719775,2017-03-28 20:14:47,,,Anonymous,1488132977622.png,zPhkGzKPDLEA6j1ymW/VzA==,BR,,1490732087 118697757,118719828,2017-03-28 20:15:09,,,Anonymous,eJwFwdsNhCAQAMBeKIB9iItrNwQJmqgQ2Pu6XO8383WfcbvdnWZ97gDHNXMbh5_WRqrF19bqXVK_ps_tgWSW8vmU1yawSEBljLyIkrIKsKIEWVE3ooAYMQKFTWhhJFkp-P5W9_sDvUQiZg.XEr2h2SvPEKreG31TaukLvp1ICk.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,BR,,1490732109 118697757,118719836,2017-03-28 20:15:16,">>118719614 lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490732116 118697757,118719876,2017-03-28 20:15:36,,,Anonymous,6f7578abd808b61c7966acda5f8765390c38c84a21cc571d49551319b32a4e34_1.jpg,g3co4sq0eAtAN6/WCDcudg==,BR,,1490732136 118697757,118720009,2017-03-28 20:16:42,,,Anonymous,217d46d325088201a520349da9c0ae7441a50ccfe129a445534a8193772e1e78_1.jpg,7A/WArlZM939gtYrQsdeKA==,BR,,1490732202 118697757,118720049,2017-03-28 20:17:03,,,Anonymous,85b33e1d5147e1c1e5aecebe37c46f2b037e871bb676bdafc9aeb21f6501e3db_1.jpg,xwtufaShvubtNCzCVjbhMQ==,BR,,1490732223 118697757,118720076,2017-03-28 20:17:21,,,Anonymous,1490651750190.jpg,hqmKFGKc68/PEtv2f4t93w==,US,,1490732241 118697757,118720080,2017-03-28 20:17:26,,,Anonymous,8709ab5987febdc2d8c7c9142332fa16f7f3c3d0f333dfffdb263c61a83a41f4_1.jpg,pEj1OO4IhI87NvFji0lH1g==,BR,,1490732246 118697757,118720100,2017-03-28 20:17:35,">>118719828 >being degenerate muh polyamory",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490732255 118697757,118720120,2017-03-28 20:17:46,,,Anonymous,9f55f7463d2e2be0faa296886d2b1459dc868e1c55202947efc86ea8603dc622_1.jpg,ACHSYkWNfIxU1jWwGRaunw==,BR,,1490732266 118697757,118720145,2017-03-28 20:18:03,,,Anonymous,Et104Jk.jpg,qQpGbi5ReTD+YRk0fadAhg==,US,,1490732283 118697757,118720196,2017-03-28 20:18:34,>>118720076,,Anonymous,who-would-build-the-roads.jpg,Kg3N9iFyx6P0mNC7ihOtXQ==,US,,1490732314 118697757,118720265,2017-03-28 20:19:18,,,Anonymous,1485612061005.jpg,P1HIFNxWyJ77RhHXDAsq3g==,US,,1490732358 118697757,118720451,2017-03-28 20:21:03,">>118701441 Based amigo",,Anonymous,1489174600421.png,ShOcILGjhpkxN+OACiJmBg==,BR,,1490732463 118697757,118720513,2017-03-28 20:21:35,,,Anonymous,LJj55lP.jpg,8opitnohPy4fqz2jbY+kvA==,US,,1490732495 118697757,118720648,2017-03-28 20:22:49,">>118697757 Why do lolbertarians think they are right wing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490732569 118697757,118720727,2017-03-28 20:23:33,,,Anonymous,C2jcYo3UcAAK8D2.jpg,7mjB+u0dspFiwsvwKaLWoA==,US,,1490732613 118697757,118720970,2017-03-28 20:25:39,>>118720080,,Anonymous,1488666350583.jpg,wnGepDhdjV3xEeHWOXkOIQ==,DE,,1490732739 118697757,118721385,2017-03-28 20:29:10,">>118720009 >if the government didn't stimulus due to WWII, the Great Depression would have lasted much longer Take that Austrian cuck!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490732950 118697757,118721502,2017-03-28 20:30:03,">>118715362 > 2012 > 1923-(present) > Worshipping that Neo-Cuckservative Rand Paul Lol you are all faggots NEET's",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490733003 118697757,118721622,2017-03-28 20:31:08,">>118715729 And you fags got O.D'ed on shill-pills.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490733068 118697757,118721645,2017-03-28 20:31:18,"you have 5 seconds to explain why we shouldnt implement a Georgist tax system. Protip, you cant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok2uR3btMrE",,LibNat,Henry_George.png,UPCC41LaNtmWAbMYASfpAA==,US,,1490733078 118697757,118721767,2017-03-28 20:32:23,">>118719420 >>118719288 >being this new FUCK OFF KEK",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490733143 118697757,118721857,2017-03-28 20:33:16,">>118720648 Talked like the cuckservatives monkeys of Brazil, congratulations!",,Anonymous,1489339646455.jpg,JyPW0Jo32hbIAUhzhrFWKQ==,BR,,1490733196 118697757,118722065,2017-03-28 20:35:33,">>118715790 > da wyt man must be an individualist NEET and only care about himself goyim > da wyt man shud also take in turd world rapefugges, as long as dey fullow muh constitushions den dey are Le Based negro, chink, spic, gay, kike > YES GOYIM , follow an ideology that We created so you can focus on worthless economic politics while ignoring racial politics that really matter Lol Individualist faggot NEET's. You like LOLbetarianism because it's perfect for you social rejects who can't go outside of your cellar and interact with the people from your own community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490733333 118697757,118722138,2017-03-28 20:36:09,">>118721767 you have balls on your chin",,Anonymous,bempo-chin-balls.png,e3lKqM4IPlKC2jrJq6HP0g==,US,,1490733369 118697757,118722167,2017-03-28 20:36:17,">>118716531 > Civic Nationalism Lmao shitskin confirmed You are all fucking faggots holy shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490733377 118697757,118722461,2017-03-28 20:38:54,">>118722065 >> da wyt man must be an individualist NEET promoting the individual as opposed to reallying on handouts makes that the exact opposite. You are forced to rely on yourself as opposed to the all powerful dictator. As Michael Ironside says in Starship Troopers ""anything given has no value"" lol",,LibNat,,,US,,1490733534 118697757,118722910,2017-03-28 20:42:57,">>118720451 Says the shitskin monkey>>118722461 How does NatSoc create handouts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490733777 118697757,118723224,2017-03-28 20:45:42,">>118722167 No question about it. I rather live with and supervise hard working chinks, muzzies and kikes than with degenerate wellfare parasites like you :^) It's even more hilarious, if one takes into consideration that you're trying to be some kind of US American Ethnic Nationalist. You're the most impure of all white nations by your own delusional standard. Thanks for making me kekkle so much",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490733942 118697757,118723283,2017-03-28 20:46:11,">>118722138 FUCKING TOP KEK I'm still laughing at your ""test: cuck"" Your newness is showing, kek. First day?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490733971 118697757,118723413,2017-03-28 20:47:26,">>118722910 based on the fact that all you faggots have to be proud of is ""muh whiteness"" its pretty clear to see what nothings you are. How you just sit back doing nothing but wewuzing. youre either getting cucked or getting handouts in an all powerful socialist state.",,LibNat,,,US,,1490734046 118697757,118723612,2017-03-28 20:49:08,">>118722910 It's all in the Soc part of NatSoc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490734148 118768723,118768723,2017-03-29 05:36:10,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - I can't believe it's real Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1490765770 118768723,118768789,2017-03-29 05:37:11,,,Anonymous,1442463674178.jpg,B9SqshDMkcPy4ksjovurSw==,FI,,1490765831 118768723,118768798,2017-03-29 05:37:17,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490765837 118768723,118768867,2017-03-29 05:38:13,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490765893 118768723,118768919,2017-03-29 05:39:05,LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,,Anonymous,1490512920021.png,Xkcj9hDLLSkdlkg5xfd+nw==,NO,,1490765945 118768723,118768944,2017-03-29 05:39:35,,,Anonymous,RandPaulWesternWall.jpg,5TwmJC6MjpTAdW9DykkOhg==,FI,,1490765975 118768723,118768968,2017-03-29 05:39:56,,,Anonymous,quote-capitalism-and-bolshevism-are-the-two-sides-of-the-same-international-jewish-coin-adolf-hitler-113-84-74.jpg,jb17CCXqbMRc4bEo5dZXhQ==,FI,,1490765996 118768723,118769271,2017-03-29 05:45:06,>being a corporate bootlicker,,[ßß⭐redpilled°trap],,,US,,1490766306 118768723,118769412,2017-03-29 05:47:26,">>118768789 >>118768919 >>118768944 >>118768968 >>118769271 wtf i love government now",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490766446 118768723,118769581,2017-03-29 05:50:18,">>118768789 >>118768919 National (((Socialism))) >SOCIALISM IS TOTALLY FINE WHEN WHITES ARE ENSLAVED The mental gymnastics you retards do is beyond pro islam feminist SJW-level >>118769271 >I don't know what ancapism is so I spout random shit >t.common core educated american >i love my (((führer))) >he (((führs))) me >i just don't need liberty >im a retarded brainlet and being a slave is totally fine, because it's only white slaves gtfo stormweenies",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490766618 118768723,118769671,2017-03-29 05:51:43,">>118768723 Are you vpn or legit kraut? Thought you all got purged in the great ip block thing going on over there or whatever it is.",,Anonymous,calvin.gif,8SDl9HrkRyykTx0GMd7UDw==,US,,1490766703 118768723,118769771,2017-03-29 05:53:37,">>118769671 Of course I'm legit kraut",,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL2Rpc2NvcmQuc3RvcmFnZS5nb29nbGVhcGlzLmNvbS9hdHRhY2htZW50cy8yNzc1ODI2NDEzMzM2NjU3OTIvMjk1NjQxMzkyNTEwOTI2ODc4L0M3d2UtWVVXMEFBVTk4Qy5qcGcifQ.EGE_tP5H3LJLp1uF7LD60XcLbwY.jpg,QPSS4y/bxuoAvaGpZGBbNQ==,DE,,1490766817 118768723,118769847,2017-03-29 05:54:50,"Do we get to have ethnically homogenous nations in this ideology, or...?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490766890 118768723,118770002,2017-03-29 05:57:30,"With any luck, Trump continues to resonate ensuring a cap future here. Seeing the antifa locally is making us increasingly nervous desu. With any luck they'll just continue being weak manlets hiding behind women, and that just can't resonate naturally. Not without some kind of outside investment. The ones in Seattle had expensive firearms, someone financed that lot.",,Anonymous,memes and taylor swift (65).jpg,zTLSEIRKVwd65WhCFpfS5A==,US,,1490767050 118768723,118770047,2017-03-29 05:58:07,">>118769847 You get to go whatever you want on your property as long as you don't violate the NAP (non-aggressive principle), meaning as long as you're not aggressive towards other microstates/convenants and your action is non-expansive (extending borders without others voluntarily agreeing).",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490767087 118768723,118770191,2017-03-29 06:00:32,">>118770002 beside that usual statistical error there's no way antifa will ever be more than spaghetti arm-manlet faggots that throw stones on cops from buildings",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490767232 118768723,118770408,2017-03-29 06:04:10,"Wtf I cant post the rothbard list, it says its spam. op could you try n post it?",,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1490767450 118768723,118770412,2017-03-29 06:04:16,Minarchist masterrace reporting. Libertarian ethnostate when?,,Anonymous,,,BE,,1490767456 118768723,118770591,2017-03-29 06:07:17,">>118770408 Yes, I know. Same for me. Also tried to reformat, still considered spam ;D >>118770412 When our Brussels overlords go down the shitter, because they couldn't handle the Hoppe",,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU1NTg5Mjc5My5qcGcifQ.t6nnLdG_Ar9hK0CIadRigLF6K7M.jpg,eldX4HxBIWW0NA8MF/7sFw==,DE,,1490767637 118768723,118770830,2017-03-29 06:11:28,">>118770191 On their own I think they'd just be like any other lone wolf loser. There is a lot of evidence already of liberal professors supporting them, I hope it's exposed in time who is funding them. Wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the more famous Soros-tier globalists. We can argue all day long about how to best regulate or deregulate capitalism, but I just can't believe that communism is coming back organically, like it's in the will of a persons heart and instinctual to lean that way.",,Anonymous,ff7.gif,uLfPlHkbnWO+X3Pava4TMw==,US,,1490767888 118768723,118771121,2017-03-29 06:16:17,">>118769847 Discrimination does naturally in a private law society what the government does in many situations. Only most discrimination is based on how good the service of a company is for example rather than them being kikes. History shows that decentralized societes work best when they are culturally homogenous (can't speak on ethincal part I must admit). Surely you'd want like minded people around you if you have to do everything via contracts and volontary transactions?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490768177 118768723,118771307,2017-03-29 06:20:05,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490768405 118768723,118771402,2017-03-29 06:21:48,">>118771121 I call it the ""90 day old culture."" Their entire religion, moral compass, tastes and fashion changes every 90 days. The only thing they have in common with one another is that they don't really stand for much of anything.",,Anonymous,memes and taylor swift (32).jpg,Fq6jF69Be14jRHTQztaO9A==,US,,1490768508 118768723,118771414,2017-03-29 06:22:01,">>118770830 >On their own I think they'd just be like any other lone wolf loser. Absolutely. But even as group ... antifa faggots, unless in MASSIVE surplus when it comes to number of people, are always predated so to speak. But you're right, the increasing number of professors supporting the extreme leftwing ideology (which is as ""undemocratic"" as extreme right wing ... when talking about current state of the art) makes it difficult to handle it. People see the general proposition ""From each according to their abilities and to each according to their needs"" and think it sounds quite nice in first place. But they fail to see the implications: That this is deeply rooted in big gov. violence and massive slavery in addition to the welfare degeneration. Noone wants to naturally enslave himself but welfare is a nice opt out. >What can possibly go wrong",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490768521 118768723,118771509,2017-03-29 06:23:50,">>118771307 the links were considered spam. Articles by Murray Rothbard >Race! That Murray Book https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Big-Government Libertarians https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html >More on LewRockwell.com https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/murray-n-rothbard/",,Anonymous,Classic2.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1490768630 118768723,118771642,2017-03-29 06:26:33,">>118771509 I updated the pastebin this shouldn't happen again",,Anonymous,HOPPE.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1490768793 118768723,118771751,2017-03-29 06:28:30,">>118771414 addition: With the professors it's quite like Rothbard wrote in Anatomy of the State. The intellectuals basically support the state and it's expansion (even if they profs are ""pacifitsts""), because the state makes sure they keep their lovely little jobs and their nice income and the nice pensions. And the students would eat shit when the profs told them - in particular when it comes to those leftist non-subjects where the students idolize ... even deify ... their professors and teachers. And since the rest of the people see profs as intellectual elites (which is only true for the field they habilitated in, otherwise they're only educated normies) they perceive what those guys say as ""absolutely reasonable"". >>118771307 >>118771509 Very nice. Someone gotta update the formatting in the pastebin. Gotta save it in a txt though anyway",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490768910 118768723,118771851,2017-03-29 06:30:13,">>118771642 Ah i c. >too slow again Very good !",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490769013 118768723,118771905,2017-03-29 06:31:02,">>118769271 >the mentally ill tripfag is a commie Never would have thought.",,Anonymous,1489358415748.jpg,1McSCSC3fKKbjEhDd0aU1w==,DE,,1490769062 118768723,118771941,2017-03-29 06:31:40,">>118771414 Those implications are truly awful and obvious to us, I just wish it was to them. I wish they knew how little communists regard freethinkers, the freedom fighting, non conforming artist etc. It hurts to see any fellow man fall for this. In all sincerity, I support reeducation camps for communists. They need to know that they themselves, if they got their way would be the first to go into the glory of the state labor camps. Strong people want to see everyone else strong and educated enough to care for themselves. It would really be for the best if they just understood that. I'm not sure what hope we really have of convincing them, like you said, I'm not sure how any one person is going to compete with the big indoctrination universities. They have years of psyop degrees. The weird part, is you would think the university would create an opposite environment, where they learn about stuff like history and just how many people the commies have killed. You'd think that have some kind of influence.",,Anonymous,anime makes ur parents gay.jpg,GUOLqr+FPBilfb5xq839Bg==,US,,1490769100 118768723,118772010,2017-03-29 06:32:51,">>118769847 AnCaps advocate for the right of discrimination. If you and like minded people get together (since the right of association is a thing aswell) you can include and exclude anyone you want from your community.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490769171 118768723,118772148,2017-03-29 06:35:05,">>118768723 Good to see another german in these threads. Most of us are unfortunately indoctrinated to the bones by the establishment, calling out the flaws of the social state will get you almost crucified.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490769305 118768723,118772277,2017-03-29 06:37:06,,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1490769426 118768723,118772487,2017-03-29 06:40:02,">>118772277 Chzeched, redditarians need to be removed.",,Anonymous,1487451735980.jpg,HXm6SlOXkB8YFGT57fVQHQ==,DE,,1490769602 118768723,118772522,2017-03-29 06:40:30,">>118771941 What we can do is continue the strive for education. Promote the threads, explain - in a non-edgy way (like: don't mention pinochet and freedom helicopters for example) - when people ask and develop the ideas further. It's important to be patient as well, because indoctrinated people will fail to see the idea of an ancap society unbiased, because they cannot think of not having a violent government etc. >>118772148 I always just enjoyed the ancap memes but started to read the resources out of curiosity. The shock I experienced when I read Anatomy was so massive, that I went from unironic pro-EU democrat to full-blown ancap in a matter of weeks. And no amount of governmental indoctrination will make me go back.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490769630 118768723,118772615,2017-03-29 06:41:52,">>118772277 Oh look it's a redditarian",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1490769712 118768723,118772667,2017-03-29 06:42:40,">>118772522 Yeah, I know that only too well. This place really helped me to break the conditioning. Experiencing uncensored opinions like here is something that can change someone deeply.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490769760 118768723,118772826,2017-03-29 06:45:19,"Can we talk about what an utter shitshow the libertarian party is? Every time I say that I'm a libertarian people point to Gary ""micropenis"" Johnson and say ""Ahahaha you pussy""",,N1ggerfagoot,,,US,,1490769919 118768723,118773104,2017-03-29 06:49:58,">>118772826 The problem the libertarian party has is that they are democratic. You can't have a libertarian society within the frameworks of a democratic political environment, since not only is it overly bueraucratic, the politicians feeding of said environment are inherently corrupt and power seeking. Every ""libertarian"" party out there who hasn't the goal of dismanteling the state can't be taken seriously. On a side note, faggots claiming to be in favor of that but wanting to start by dissolving borders instead of the welfare state are shills, since there definetly is a priority order. If a government has any use, it's protecting the borders from intruders, be they civilists or military.",,Anonymous,1485359828782.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,DE,,1490770198 118768723,118773334,2017-03-29 06:53:10,">>118772826 When I say I'm ancap, people don't know what that is. When I explain they're most often >oh so you're just a lefty anarchist When I explain that I'm not, they seem puzzled, because - as people are super conditioned towards a violent government or even worse superstructures like EU - they don't see how anarchy can be ordered and beneficial to the people. They only know the MadMax type shit from tv and from punks spouting their senseless ""FUCK THE STATE"" shit",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490770390 118768723,118773365,2017-03-29 06:53:37,All I want is to start an insurance company,,Anonymous,1490321708228.png,KaPNGOhDFCT3Nk7bR5sAYw==,US,,1490770417 118768723,118773385,2017-03-29 06:54:01,">>118772826 We need to go to war with those libertardians if we are to escape that reputation. I really do believe they are leftists and progressives in disguise to steal votes from the right. that wave of faggotry come during the years ron paul ran for prez, the campaign recruited voters from the left heavily and those lefties kept their safe-space bullshit and called themselves libertarians because they were anti-war. I have nothing against Ron Paul but its what i think happened to libertarianism. they took in to many cucks, didn't make them assimilate and now they are cucks",,Anonymous,Normal_Ancap.png,0cj87/YtlHkwyisfLCRUVQ==,US,,1490770441 118768723,118773492,2017-03-29 06:55:47,">>118773365 kek saved that shit.",,Anonymous,snek (5).png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,US,,1490770547 118768723,118773548,2017-03-29 06:56:36,">>118773365 >not wanting to open up a milk shop >>118773334 Tell them you are an extremist capitalist, they'll understand it enough to know that they hate you, works fine for me every time.",,Anonymous,1485364123587.png,aXTt9Ftiv+MpMJJZ4hCbDQ==,DE,,1490770596 118768723,118773742,2017-03-29 06:59:13,">>118768723 This totally isn't a timewaste.",,Anonymous,40143856-037B-4DB1-8D08-C2F8F2B1B135-218-000000733783C561_tmp.jpg,KL6FIK3XfaF9iC6dd8N+ig==,US,,1490770753 118768723,118773846,2017-03-29 07:00:28,">>118773548 not my personal dream but we can insure you from undesirables.",,Anonymous,a77ee1bada440d4944b24f0627a30c93675e0a32c4432cbec975a4da52acff80.jpg,hZa59DL0XGHClabnfcr2Rw==,US,,1490770828 118768723,118773916,2017-03-29 07:01:35,">>118773385 I like to be edgy, too, but honestly, those people have still potential compared to full on lefties. They just need time. Hell, I was one of them, too. These threads are a good tool to introduce litebertarians to our ideas and show them that our ideology is nothing more than the logical extreme to their ideology. they'll reach our point eventually, we just need to show them the light by ansewering questions in here with honest solutions.",,Anonymous,1484723141883.png,oz53bbIJ7c0ZQFKQcw2tBw==,DE,,1490770895 118768723,118773940,2017-03-29 07:01:52,">>118773742 whats up with that picture my dude",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490770912 118768723,118774090,2017-03-29 07:04:15,">>118773548 lel yeah prolly. But I want to explain so I can at least make them think, unironically. I mean I would always require Anatomy to read just out of curiosity, because that worked so well for me. In the end everything and everyone that at least works to decrease the state influence etc. is a good thing. Even if it's as few as voting for parties like AfD which massively stir shit up ... hopefully >>118773940 >lel who builds roads and bridges in ancap society",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490771055 118768723,118774283,2017-03-29 07:07:36,">>118774090 Remember, never shut up about this kind of stuff if they ask you about it first. People that are often around me and talk about politics with me start to get more and more in favor of deregulation and free market capitalism, because once they agree to debate, they can't refute my arguments. Especially the energy crisis is a great way to redpill people.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490771256 118768723,118774454,2017-03-29 07:09:52,">>118774090 Oh I didn't mean require but recommend. whoops",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490771392 118768723,118774562,2017-03-29 07:11:30,">>118774283 Absolutely",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490771490 118768723,118774810,2017-03-29 07:15:20,">>118774090 Also, I have to agree with you on the stir up thing. We lose so many voters to the FDP because they think that is going to change shit. Voting the AfD is the true libertarian choice, since opposing the establishment and the EU are our main priorities. I wish more people in our country would realize this and would stop to suck the dick of state media. Yet, they think they are morally and intellectually superior for being against le evil Nazis, while parties like the CDU and the rest of the one party block are actual red fascists.",,Anonymous,1.jpg,ClN8wibL5UyuN2ucEAsNzg==,DE,,1490771720 118768723,118774926,2017-03-29 07:17:12,">>118773385 Here in Sweden we have a classically liberal party that has never gotten any seats. Pretty much any libertarian/ancap community here has completely given up on party politics and mainly discuss civil disobedience in form of tax evasion, creating business and paying for services without VAT (contractors, barbers, you get the idea).",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490771832 118768723,118775172,2017-03-29 07:20:38,">>118768723 did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,stalin on freedom.jpg,pHTJQPlBiwCkPs+pxmCDpA==,SE,,1490772038 118768723,118775181,2017-03-29 07:20:45,">>118773916 You're right, just don't be afraid to be honest with them when something might put them off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490772045 118768723,118775208,2017-03-29 07:21:01,">>118774926 The most sucessful projects not related to media or litterature for freedom in the last 30 years here have probably been two underground clubs, Tritnaha and most famously Docklands aswell as one the guys running these clubs scaring away the olympical commitee from Stockholm by planting a bomb in a park.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490772061 118768723,118775262,2017-03-29 07:21:48,">>118774926 To be honest, political parties won't get us anywhere. it is contradictory to demand the dismanteling of the political system while being part of it. Last thread some stuff about agorism was posted and I think its techniques of counter economics could be really benefitial to our cause, beating the system that surpresses the free market with a weaponized free market. We just aren't ready for a violent uprising, since we both lack the tool and numbers.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490772108 118768723,118775353,2017-03-29 07:23:15,">>118775172 We don't have any tolerance for egalitarians here, you commie fuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490772195 118768723,118775469,2017-03-29 07:24:52,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490772292 118768723,118775470,2017-03-29 07:24:54,">>118775181 Oh, I won't. The privatization of literally every service was something that put me off aswell in the beginning, but rather than driving me completely away, it made me curious. People that stop to look further into our movement at that point because it seems to extreme to them don't have the mental capacity to be converted anyway. Those who have their heart and mind at the right spot will stay.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490772294 118768723,118775524,2017-03-29 07:25:44,">>118775172 ""...unemployed hungry person..."" >forces person to work or die >person still has nothing to eat ""...True freedom can only be where ther eis no exploitation of one person by another..."" >exploits persons through violent reign of the state >if persons reject work, they're eradicated Communism, what could possibly go wrong ?",,Anonymous,nguhAD6.jpg,POZTvIIakZSY2L4HjigSyw==,DE,,1490772344 118768723,118775573,2017-03-29 07:26:30,">>118775172 Positive rights are a bad meme. There are only one kind of rights, the natural rights: Integrity of body and property, government gibs have nothing to do with freedom and human nature.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490772390 118768723,118775652,2017-03-29 07:27:31,">>118775262 You're right. But I don't think anarchocapitalism can be implemented through purely violent means. I think the way to get a society based on private property is purely through creating new institutions to make the state redudant. But to be honest I don't see any realistic way to implement this within 100 years unless you count projects like Liberland and similar (I like Vit but I don't think he can be the shining star of liberty across the world)",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490772451 118768723,118775902,2017-03-29 07:31:16,">>118775652 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-economics Counter economics basically are a form of social disobediance applied to unjust regulations. Are they illegal? Definetely. Are they violent? Only to the stability of the government. To disrupt the establishment we can't be obedient to the laws that keep the establishment in place, obviously, since being against the establishment nowadays is considered a crime. But you are right, violence is not the only answer.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490772676 118768723,118775985,2017-03-29 07:32:37,">>118775652 Well ... BASICALLY IN THEORY ... it COULD be done ""democratically"" so to speak. (beside doing >>118775262) If you would be able to get a party charge that supports minarchism and minimize the state in first place, it would be quite a good starting point for a paradigm change towards no state. But whatever we do, promoting the idea and getting people familiar with it is the first and most important step to take. And u gotta do it top-down so to speak (universities -> other folks) to make sure you get rid of the intellectual communist ideas first",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490772757 118768723,118776057,2017-03-29 07:33:34,"Oy vey, finally a nice thread. Civic nationalism is the only path forward for goys, only the chosen race is entitled to ethnonationalism. Plus the UK and Sweden are 90% white. You can't create an ethnostate with so many minorities, Israel only managed to create an ethnostate out of a 10% Jewish population because they are chosen. Also anyone who says these third world muds will vote for judeo-communism in a generation or two are lying. Let them in goys, we are all one race and must live together in equality without tribalism.",,Anonymous,1490304235749.jpg,LR8FmOTq+DmFrkC68wkb7A==,CA,,1490772814 118768723,118776198,2017-03-29 07:35:27,">>118775985 *That's how I see it, of course.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490772927 118768723,118776248,2017-03-29 07:36:07,">>118776057 >what is the right of discrimination and free association We should put a disclaimer about how AnCapism is compatible with ethno nationalism in the OP, maybe then stormweenies would stop shitposting.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490772967 118768723,118776286,2017-03-29 07:36:38,">>118775902 You definitely have a point. If we look at North Korea we see a very a strong and willing black market that will be extremely hard for the regime to kill. Though one could argue that they might be letting them go on because it keeps the population relatively calm and satisifed.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490772998 118768723,118776305,2017-03-29 07:36:50,">>118776057 Also who needs taxes! Jews already have Jewish community centers, Jewish schools, and live in tightly compacted urban centers. We've already pilfered your pension funds and don't need refugee stipends and handouts anymore. We need lolbertarianism! At least until the third world elects the next American judeo-communist (((trotsky))) or (((lenin))) in a few generations.",,Anonymous,1489866247775.jpg,bu7f0KrOnQrtpLvtgTPhOw==,CA,,1490773010 118768723,118776368,2017-03-29 07:37:42,">>118776248 >stormweenies JIDF already got caught red handed posting the politics strawpoll and yet Fascist+NatSoc beat almost all the other categories combined, and I could point out how 90% of the 1919 German communist revolution leaders were Jewish, how affirmative action was a Jewish creation in both Canada and in the USA, how they were the driving force behind opening our borders, how the lawsuits that allowed near unrestricted abortion in our countries were both lead by kikes or hell I could lay out the thousands of hooked noses behind the drug/porn/tranny degeneracy they target our children with. But I won't. Rather i'll ask that whenever someone in this thread witnesses societal/political rot ask yourself, and don't be afraid to do some digging if necessary, if a certain sunken eyed inbred tribe is behind it. /pol/ calls this taking the redpill and it ruins everyone as it's impossible to stop seeing the (((coincidences))) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg Instead of posting your Jewish bullshit ask yourself why your government won't let you watch a simple youtube video. ^",,Anonymous,1480977749735.jpg,jM2Yfo/ZEDeiW1djfFSYzg==,CA,,1490773062 118768723,118776409,2017-03-29 07:38:14,">>118776305 >complains about how jewish libertarianism is >posts jewish commies Really activated my almonds.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490773094 118768723,118776486,2017-03-29 07:39:10,">>118776248 Are you shilling lolbertarianism because you'll be thrown in jail for even researching national socialism? If so is it the fear or the lack of research that motivates you to shill for the kike?",,Anonymous,1490346608130.jpg,k686N/mX4hWtjTTEL47o3w==,CA,,1490773150 118768723,118776529,2017-03-29 07:39:37,">>118776368 >Instead of posting your Jewish bullshit ask yourself why your government won't let you watch a simple youtube video. ^ Well, the fact that my government exists means that it wants to preserve itself, if it didn't exist no such regulations would be in place, since they merely ban a ""crime"" without victims.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490773177 118768723,118776616,2017-03-29 07:40:39,">>118776409 Who was the chief funder of judeo-communism during the upstart? A wealthy NYC capitalist by the name of (((Jacob Schiff))). Does your government block these memes yet?",,Anonymous,1490479896647.jpg,U0pBADIxTfGb5xgWQohhdA==,CA,,1490773239 118768723,118776782,2017-03-29 07:42:29,">>118776529 >the fact that my government exists means that it wants to preserve itself Your government (assuming you're not a CIA nigger or an inbred Israeli like most German flags) was created by and for the allies. It exists for the allies. The USA still occupies Germany to this day and has been caught infiltrating and influencing every single level of government. Not saying anything about this either way, it's just a fact.",,Anonymous,1490479787562.jpg,0RG3T1CnNxrhSyq8hJEnow==,CA,,1490773349 118768723,118776812,2017-03-29 07:42:49,">>118776616 stop trying so hard leaf, it's cringey af",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490773369 118768723,118776940,2017-03-29 07:44:21,">>118776616 Wow breh you're so edgy. Wouldn't have expected anything different from a """"""national (((socialist)))"""""". Download the books, start with ""Anatomy of the state"" and then read some Hoppe. See how the thing unfolds and stop spouting your utterly uneducated fagshit in these threads >>118776812",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490773461 118768723,118776971,2017-03-29 07:44:41,">>118776812 Libertarianism is a natural outcome of Jewish nihilism and goy induced naivety. History proves that utopian dreams can be achieved and that great things happen when racially sound people submit to their natural desire to obey and carefully execute well managed grand plans. Hitler was a dreamer and was called a dreamer regularly by his opponents, watch him respond to it. The German can't because they spend almost half a billion dollars a year pre-emptively banning anything remotely related to national socialism, while shilling open borders lolbertarianism in the schools while the German race is exterminated day by day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg [Embed]",,Anonymous,Screenshot_157.png,FGMZdJ4T0idQqtEMi3ZEtw==,CA,,1490773481 118768723,118777119,2017-03-29 07:46:33,">>118776971 >he doesn't understand anarcho-capitalism see >>118768798, >>118768867, >>118771307, >>118771509 So you don't even need to scroll up. See how nice I am",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490773593 118768723,118777164,2017-03-29 07:47:05,">>118776940 I grew up in Germany. I've debated with Germans for years on this chan. You're not German. You're a kike pretending to be German. I should have known after the first reply. No sane German would so nonchalantly ignore this and the Jewish connection between lobertarianism and judeo-communism.",,Anonymous,1470580075286.jpg,uXMOpUtJxfYy9L3rW+X3rg==,CA,,1490773625 118768723,118777217,2017-03-29 07:47:50,">>118776971 You dumb ass canadians try so hard to fit in that you always take things too far and come off just completely retarded. Just stop you look like a fucking idiot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490773670 118768723,118777282,2017-03-29 07:48:47,">>118777164 You're an uneducated faggot, just as all the other stormfag drones. And this is the last post I'll dedicate to you.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490773727 118768723,118777339,2017-03-29 07:49:25,">>118776486 have sympathy with race realism and the kikes any true anti egalitarian ancap I just hate the willful economic ignorance just because there's some likes involved in econ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490773765 118768723,118777496,2017-03-29 07:51:37,">>118777164 >I've figured it out! Jews support every ideology apart from the one that calls for their genocide! What a surprise!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490773897 118768723,118777508,2017-03-29 07:51:46,">>118777217 Who needs taxes! Jews already have Jewish community centers, Jewish schools, and live in tightly compacted urban centers. We've already pilfered goy pension funds and don't need refugee stipends and handouts anymore. We need lolbertarianism! At least until the third world elects the next American judeo-communist (((trotsky))) or (((lenin))) in a few generations. But rabbi, lolbertarianism light only has support of 5-10% max of the population and virtually all of the """"""intellectuals"""""" are kikes that also push for open borders. This will just create more divides between the decent and selfish right and will only help push the (((democrat))) narrative that the right doesn't care about working people. >tfw you're the rabbi",,Anonymous,223334816.jpg,159h6vGB/59uXMDLIv5j+A==,CA,,1490773906 118768723,118777574,2017-03-29 07:52:39,">>118776486 have sympathy with race realism and the (((kikes))) situation. any true anti egalitarian ancap would agree* I just hate the willful economic ignorance just because there's some kikes involved in econ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490773959 118768723,118777614,2017-03-29 07:53:07,">>118776971 >History proves that utopian dreams can be achieved and that great things happen when racially sound people submit to their natural desire to obey and carefully execute well managed grand plans >Nazi Germany was a utopia Really makes you think.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490773987 118768723,118777656,2017-03-29 07:53:44,">>118775172 >unemployed hungry person get a job you fucking commie",,Anonymous,1489489056751.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,GB,,1490774024 118768723,118777784,2017-03-29 07:55:17,">>118777339 The white man has always needed a strong self interested state to thrive. The greatest threat to the white man is not a strong government rather the very opposite. National Socialism had a far lower tax burden on the middle/professional class than the most libertarian counties in the most libertarian states in the most libertarian developed country on earth. They abolished unearned income and interest though and the state didn't accept sub or extraterritorial/religious/racial loyalty. Really makes you think.",,Anonymous,1469564615750.png,WiikyY4ApG/k9Bo+cio8Qw==,CA,,1490774117 118768723,118778000,2017-03-29 07:57:56,">>118775172 >>118777656 >unemployed hungry person As opposed to enslaved hungry person.",,Anonymous,anarchism2.png,loIF+sdxueQ2mfVL6nf4TA==,ES,,1490774276 118768723,118778110,2017-03-29 07:59:03,">>118777614 Utopian dreams can absolutely be achieved as he proved you must dare to dream, nobody claimed what you've claimed. Although they managed to invent more things, pull more people out of poverty, and create more economic growth in the middle of the worst recession in history than Australia and Canada has every year combined since well before you were born. What has the collective west which has exponentially more resources, knowledge and opportunity done in the last twelve years? Since 2005. We can't even hold steady.",,Anonymous,1488189459081.png,2c1O4+EqRcR0z97oyqqceA==,CA,,1490774343 118768723,118778133,2017-03-29 07:59:17,">>118777508 >Hey Cletus, the kikes' been keeping us down! >Hey Jamal, the whites' been keeping us down!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490774357 118768723,118778158,2017-03-29 07:59:36,">>118772010 Sounds pretty good to me",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490774376 118768723,118778240,2017-03-29 08:00:36,">>118778133 I could point out how 90% of the 1919 German communist revolution leaders were Jewish, how affirmative action was a Jewish creation in both Canada and in the USA, how they were the driving force behind opening our borders, how the lawsuits that allowed near unrestricted abortion in our countries were both lead by kikes or hell I could lay out the thousands of hooked noses behind the drug/porn/tranny degeneracy they target our children with. But I won't. Rather i'll ask that whenever someone in this thread witnesses societal/political rot ask yourself, and don't be afraid to do some digging if necessary, if a certain sunken eyed inbred tribe is behind it. /pol/ calls this taking the redpill and it ruins everyone as it's impossible to stop seeing the (((coincidences)))",,Anonymous,1472510236796.jpg,xqok2kEaree6RCeAtolYpw==,CA,,1490774436 118768723,118778552,2017-03-29 08:02:59,">>118777784 I just want to be self-reliant. I want almost all the shit you want. I just don't want the government to steal from me and my family to pay for some cunt's abortion. I understand nationalism, I just want to localize nationalism to my friends and family. The rest of my country is scum that I don't want to work my ass off for. You know what it's like to work your ass off at a blue collar job and have the government claim to own your labor?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490774579 118768723,118778598,2017-03-29 08:03:32,">>118778240 I fail to see how is this relevant in any way to libertarianism or how does this makes a good idea your specific brand of totalitarianism.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490774612 118768723,118778755,2017-03-29 08:05:24,I'm an open minded person seeking for political discussion. Please convince me why Anarcho-Capitalism is the best ideology in your opinion.,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490774724 118768723,118778902,2017-03-29 08:07:09,">>118768723 Reporting in for privatised right wing death squads.",,Anonymous,lenin becomes a good communist.gif,Td0EkfxX7UUZZeAS2MapHQ==,SK,,1490774829 118768723,118778997,2017-03-29 08:08:13,">>118778755 All monopolies are bad. The monopoly on security is the worst of them all. It all boils down to this.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490774893 118768723,118779043,2017-03-29 08:08:46,">>118769271 >being a delusional manlet sodomite self-mutilator Get out of my covenant.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490774926 118768723,118779085,2017-03-29 08:09:19,">>118778552 National Socialism taxed working families, from the farmer to the lawyer, far less than the most libertarian county, in the most libertarian state, in the most libertarian developed country on the planet. National Libertarianism if there is such a thing sounds like it would be National Socialism without the prohibition on interest, without the near prohibition on unearned income, without the demand for nationalization and/or compete obedience of all major trusts (corporations), and without the demand for a considerable share of all profits made through heavy industry and the harvesting of natural resources. If you're not going to take on the people with twenty thousand million dollars collecting interest/dividends then you're going to have to get the working people to make up the difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program Everyone should read this. Especially the German if it isn't banned in his country yet.",,Anonymous,Cxj8H_GUkAEXt5I.jpg,/EbaSnI5S2uQ6Ece/Sr3Xw==,CA,,1490774959 118768723,118779220,2017-03-29 08:11:11,">>118778997 I'm still free to hire a bodyguard or buy weapons for self defense if I don't feel safe enough though",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490775071 118768723,118779399,2017-03-29 08:13:34,">>118778110 I fail to see how a large military buildup which resulted in a World War in which the German people suffered and lost resulted in utopia. I don't think wars are supposed to exist in Utopia. Even if Germany had not gone towards its inevitable war, the oppressive regime that Nazi Germany was not widely enjoyed by the German people. Do you really think that the strict regimentation of life and brutal repression of any dissent seen in Germany at that time looked anything like a utopia? As much as collectivists like you think that everyone wants to be a happy little bootlicker, history shows how brutal totalitarian regimes had to be with people to make sure they marched in step. As to the economic side of things, admittedly the Nazis did some good moves during the Great Depression. Stopping the Versailles reparations and privatising key industries did a lot of good. >>118778240 But that's the thing, Jews exist heavily in libertarian and conservative movements too. In fact Jews make up a large amount of the intelligencia of any political movement. The only reason why they don't belong to the movements you support is either because they're either anti-intellectual or anti-Semitic.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490775214 118768723,118779409,2017-03-29 08:13:45,">>118779085 I wish you would have leveled with me instead you completely ignored what I said and repeated yourself. Do you know what it's like to work hard physical labor and have the state claim ownership of your labor? This is why we call you NEETsoc. You don't know hard work.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1490775225 118768723,118779468,2017-03-29 08:14:20,">>118778997 >All monopolies are bad. The national socialists argued that peak efficiency should be sought. That monopolies should be allowed and even encouraged in most cases, and then these monopolies should be nationalized and/or made to operate for the benefit of the nation. Industrialists did far better in NatSoc Germany than they had anywhere else in history until the end of WWII and until the war they paid fewer taxes than FDRs America. Although the money lenders and many insurance companies were completely destroyed.",,Anonymous,1478967484474.png,0ICQsUqWdP4QJMkrJnzYkQ==,CA,,1490775260 118768723,118779686,2017-03-29 08:17:08,">>118779409 >Do you know what it's like to work hard physical labor and have the state claim ownership of your labor? Yeah. I was in the military for eight years and three months of the year I was effectively forced to work for the government for nothing. I've paid a good $200k+ in taxes in my short life. I've spent thousands of hours doing exactly what you describe. From 1933 - 1939 people in NatSoc Germany spent fewer hours working for the state than in the rest of the developed world I imagine. They certainly got far more bang for their tax dollars/hours that's without question.",,Anonymous,1471924048163.jpg,nevdilXqRiJpkR1JFoySxA==,CA,,1490775428 118768723,118779723,2017-03-29 08:17:31,">>118779468 >efficiency >monopolies Isn't the point of an monopoly to not have any competition and being able to do whatever the fuck you want because you're the only member of the market? Monopolies are in my opinion the least efficient forms of business",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490775451 118768723,118779784,2017-03-29 08:18:27,">>118779085 >National Socialism taxed working families, from the farmer to the lawyer, far less than the most libertarian county, in the most libertarian state, in the most libertarian developed country on the planet Going to need a source on that. And no, what Hitler said he was going to do is not what he did in practice.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490775507 118768723,118780113,2017-03-29 08:22:27,">>118779468 >Industrialists did far better in NatSoc Germany than they had anywhere else in history until the end of WWII From Wikipedia, which you deem to be a reliable source: (So no (((Wikipedia))) nonsense) ""By the late 1930s, taxation, regulations and general hostility towards the business community were becoming so onerous that one German businessman wrote: ""These Nazi radicals think of nothing except ‘distributing the wealth,'” while some businessmen were “studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system."" In other cases, National Socialist officials were levying harsh fines of millions of marks for a “single bookkeeping error.” The anti-business motives behind the Nationalist Socialists has been attributed to the Nazi leadership’s aim “to soak the rich and ‘neutralize big spenders,’” since they harbored “hostility towards the wealthy.” The National Socialists were also hostile to trade associations and small corporations. Hitler’s administration decreed an October 1937 policy that “dissolved all corporations with a capital under $40,000 and forbade the establishment of new ones with a capital less than $200,000,” which swiftly affected the collapse of one fifth of all small corporations. On July 15, 1933 a law was enacted that imposed compulsory membership in cartels, while by 1934 the Third Reich had mandated a reorganization of all companies and trade associations and placed them “under the control of the state.” While some National Socialist diehards proposed a total ban against all trading of stocks and bonds in an effort to prevent the spread of “Jewish capital,” others, in their anti-capitalist quest, sought “the abolition of income not earned by work or toil and distinguish between ‘rapacious’ and ‘productive’ capital.”",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490775747 118768723,118780268,2017-03-29 08:24:05,">>118779723 While monopolies can be efficient in some very select cases, you can't expect a socialist to know much about economic theory. Oh sorry, should I say, (((economic theory))).",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490775845 118768723,118780345,2017-03-29 08:24:42,">>118779723 Look at your car companies, their amalgamation and the efficiencies that were brought about. On the other side look at the collusion of telecom or any other sector of companies in any country that doesn't heavily regulate them. NatSocs argued that monopolies were inevitable and should perhaps even be encouraged. Reminder that the idea of meritocracy was always at the heart of the movement, that the lowliest German peasant would have the ability to one day lead the reich if he was the one most suited to do it. That trusts were required to invest in research and development, radio/etc. quota production, investment in the community and infrastructure, rearch for favourable deals with the NSDAP workers union, etc. If people want National Libertarianism and can stomach the mass deportations, abolishment of most unearned income and interest, etc. they should at least look into National Socialism. Which unlike lolbertianism actually has been proven in practice.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_178.png,eouOlpXbu+Ba9nsHXYA2oQ==,CA,,1490775882 118768723,118780580,2017-03-29 08:27:20,">>118779686 Fair enough, I still don't agree that the Reich was anywhere near minding their own buisness or allowing me self ownership. Why am I bad goy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490776040 118768723,118780686,2017-03-29 08:28:38,">>118780345 Car industry was one of the few places where there was still competition Also you#re looking at a state at a time where the free market was just beginning to be abolished which is why there were still a lot of free market principles internalized by the businessmen and workers If Natsoc Germany had existed for a few decades more its industry would've collapsed just like the soviet bloc",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490776118 118768723,118780721,2017-03-29 08:29:04,">>118780345 >Look at your car companies, their amalgamation and the efficiencies that were brought about >Monopoly and oligopoly are the same thing >On the other side look at the collusion of telecom or any other sector of companies in any country that doesn't heavily regulate them >implying telecommunications companies aren't highly regulated all over the western world >Which unlike lolbertianism actually has been proven in practice Funny that the most successful countries in their respective regions have the most economic freedom.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490776144 118768723,118780766,2017-03-29 08:29:34,">>118780268 Name one case where a monopoly is more efficient than free market competitors",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490776174 118768723,118780842,2017-03-29 08:30:28,">>118780113 >no (((Wikipedia))) nonsense I said (((wikipedia))) because they still say the stab in the back was a myth even though pic related, and your entire quote is literally sourced from one link. The Jewish Mises Institute and article, more like an opinion piece, written in 2014 with no sources at the bottom of it. 6/8 of the founders were lolbertian kikes that sole purpose was to do this. >>118777508 >>118777508 >>118777508 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises_Institute Click the names and see for yourself. It's the (((Frankfurt School))) of the lolbertian open borders right. These kikes fear nothing more than the right and the left coming together on National Socialism.",,Anonymous,1470580075285.png,B3mzOoRCDl0HhU5dScLyeQ==,CA,,1490776228 118768723,118781006,2017-03-29 08:32:17,">>118776971 >History proves a utopia can exist >Nazi Germany falls in like 12 years Really makes you think",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490776337 118768723,118781084,2017-03-29 08:33:06,">>118781006 >b-but muh foreign powers",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490776386 118768723,118781221,2017-03-29 08:34:53,">>118779220 That's what ancap consists of. There's not a problem with the existance of any organization that provides security, policing or whatever other bundle of services they may want to offer as long as you aren't forced to buy such product and that organization doesn't prevent others from entering that market.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490776493 118768723,118781223,2017-03-29 08:34:56,">>118780721 (((Economic freedom))) was a term invented by the heritage institute not even two decades ago. All of their top ten including Canada (50% taxes is economic freedom? Oh wait they don't a shit about the working man) haven't produced jack shit for virtually any working families in these last two decades, suicides have skyrocketed, birthrates are plummeting, and wealth is evaporating for every group but one.",,Anonymous,c7d7c2e66db60cd64c4f3ca1242836ed357b381c_1_600x438.jpg,xjSHK7Nft/LuJoub4Bm3XA==,CA,,1490776496 118768723,118781438,2017-03-29 08:37:14,">>118781006 Germany had six years to rearm during the greatest depression in history. They took on the American Empire, French Empire, British Empire, and Soviet Empire with 4% of the worlds land and 6% of the worlds people. They still went 10 for 1 in the East and it's absolutely incredible how close they got to victory on both fronts. What has the USA done in the last twelve years? Added 10t to the debt. That's about it.",,Anonymous,national-unity-party-welcome-01.png,giyjS7ACXsahrcEPwpwNng==,CA,,1490776634 118768723,118781518,2017-03-29 08:38:09,">>118781221 What if there are three police companies in a city and they collude to keep their prices at the same level and raise them at the same time? Who could do anything against that?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490776689 118768723,118781782,2017-03-29 08:41:11,">>118781518 Nothing can be done and it happens in Canada with the telecom industries to such an extent that even students can see it. What's the difference between a monopoly and three companies that collude with each other? None. A National Socialist would take Rogers, Bell and Telus merge them and then either nationalize 51% of the shares with compensation or demand a majority of board seats to ensure the successor monopoly works for the benefit of the state.",,Anonymous,nsg-1h1.png,6pT1y4fDVr8L/nJ51xEX5w==,CA,,1490776871 118768723,118781895,2017-03-29 08:42:28,">>118781782 Gtfo I didn't ask for a socialist perspective",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490776948 118768723,118782074,2017-03-29 08:44:40,"Was gone for an hour do have lunch. This leaf brainlet still spouting nonsense ?",,Anonymous,1490561222159.jpg,3aAie9mBpk9j94NUQkRqEg==,DE,,1490777080 118768723,118782084,2017-03-29 08:44:46,">>118780345 If the only thing keeping Monopolies from fucking the average consumer with inflated prices or diminished quality for the sake of their own profit is a nationalistic sensibility that can disappear one generation to the next, I'll take regular capitalism any day. If the state can't be trusted, a single corporation wielding similar powers certainly can't be trusted either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490777086 118768723,118782099,2017-03-29 08:44:55,">>118781895 Right, but I want to know why. Is it because you're another inbred kike pretending to be German or are you afraid of the secret police snatching you up in the middle of the night? Ask yourself why you can't watch this video. Then be truthful with yourself and answer it again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg",,Anonymous,Screenshot_183.png,tcjYrY3oMhnCr5V87/CnWA==,CA,,1490777095 118768723,118782285,2017-03-29 08:46:59,">>118782099 Collectivist ideologies are bullshit in general The difference between national socialism and international socialism are really just two syllables",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490777219 118768723,118782442,2017-03-29 08:49:01,">>118781518 >Who could do anything against that? A fourth company entering that newly profitable market. The reason collusion doesn't work in a free market is because the more companies there are the more profitable to is for them to ""betray"" the others and lower their prices to expand their market share. If you dig deep enough you will always find that such monopolies and cartels derive all their power from governmental regulations and protectionism and that without them they would never be able to charge as much their customers as they do.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490777341 118768723,118782535,2017-03-29 08:50:11,">>118780766 John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil. The fact that Standard Oil produced a cheaper product than the rest of its competitors could made it a monopoly until it was broken up by anti-trust laws in the early 1900s. Sure, that doesn't mean that if the other oil companies had the same production efficiency, they'd not have lower prices. But if government were to force Standard Oil out of the market to create more competition, prices would have actually been higher. >>118780842 >Jews are against positive depictions of Nazi Germany What a surprise! Plus the paragraph I linked has other sources besides the Mises Institute one. Also if you knew anything about the Mises Institute, you'd realise that open borders isn't something that is often discussed at all. >>118781223 >Canada has a 50% tax rate for working class people >Canada is a worse country to live in than France and Portugal I mean I can understand that you'll never be happy with a nation's economic policy unless their taxation goes directly to persecuting Jews and other ""degenerates"". >>118781438 Keep shifting those goalposts, leaf. You socialists are like broken records. It was everyone else's fault that your system collapsed, right? Not the constant warmongering?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490777411 118768723,118782824,2017-03-29 08:53:32,">>118782442 Okay you're right. New scenario - In a different city there exists only one police company because it bought all competitors. Now that police company is taking power over the city and forces all citizens who live there to hand in their guns and makes it mandatory for all citizens to pay for their services. Who could do something against this scenario? >>118782535 I don't think they would've been as efficient if they had existed for a few more years",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490777612 118768723,118782910,2017-03-29 08:54:24,">>118782084 If I told you that just over 60% of your adult population works one hour per week, and that more than half of these American workers earned less than $30k a year would you believe me? https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2014 You want more inequality. I want national socialism and I believe most people on this so called lolbertarian right would too if they would only take the time to research it. I want to all but abolish interest and unearned income, to force the the major trusts to work for the benefit of the state, to expect everyone contribute, to have a meritocratic yet hierarchical society. etc. I believe you will too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program",,Anonymous,70f16b1e546a2fcc2c42f7b25ea8d13c.jpg,l+Jb9VtKsQ2pHQxPjccL9Q==,CA,,1490777664 118768723,118783003,2017-03-29 08:55:24,">>118782099 This is why I'm pro freedom of speech. It's because your leftist rivals try to ban videos like the one you linked because they think you'll go away but it in fact does the absolute opposite. It makes nazis think that they're freedom fighters that are wrongfully oppressed by the government, which apparently is trying to hide the truth about how great Nazi Germany was.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490777724 118768723,118783106,2017-03-29 08:56:38,">>118782824 >I don't think they would've been as efficient if they had existed for a few more years Of course not, but then market forces would have naturally taken down Standard Oil's monopoly in favour of newer firms.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490777798 118768723,118783162,2017-03-29 08:57:18,">>118782285 The greatest threat to the European, and especially German, races is not a strong government rather the very opposite. If you continue with the weak individualism you will be demographically replaced before the end of the 21st century. Your suicide rates and economic inequality between the 99.9% and the 0.01% will continue to climb.",,Anonymous,nsg-1h2.png,Sw//8FKVVrnyXfcmFmLK/Q==,CA,,1490777838 118768723,118783187,2017-03-29 08:57:41,">>118783106 That would've been pretty difficult to do if Standard Oil owned all the oil reserves",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490777861 118768723,118783280,2017-03-29 08:58:53,">>118783187 >if Standard Oil owned all the oil reserves But they didn't. New oil reserves were being found all the time and still are.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490777933 118768723,118783314,2017-03-29 08:59:19,">>118783162 It's not about individualism, it's about a culturally homogeneous society",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490777959 118768723,118783329,2017-03-29 08:59:31,">>118783003 You quoted the fucking (((Mises Insitute))) in your lame ass attempt at rebuttal. >>118780113 >>118780842 I'd have no problem denying you freedom of speech, not because of what you say but because of the vile race of which you so clearly belong.",,Anonymous,1479595825583.jpg,HfGJKBAugWBI3hbiChTulA==,CA,,1490777971 118768723,118783432,2017-03-29 09:00:44,">>118783280 Okay that's true",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490778044 118768723,118783599,2017-03-29 09:02:58,">>118783162 We will never see eye to eye on this. The government's of the West are the preparators of leftism, degeneracy, and multiculturalism. They don't want us, they want to replace us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490778178 118768723,118783635,2017-03-29 09:03:26,">>118783329 >everyone who doesn't agree with me is a Jew >every time someone says something I don't like I just put triple parenthesis around their argument Case closed. If you don't want to actually argue anymore, I won't bother either.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490778206 118768723,118783665,2017-03-29 09:03:45,">>118768723 redpill me on gun ownership",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490778225 118768723,118783829,2017-03-29 09:05:31,">>118783665 It's free. No restrictions.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490778331 118768723,118783856,2017-03-29 09:05:50,">>118782824 The problem with that approach is that it assumes that a big firm buying all agencies at any price wouldn't create an incentive to other people to just create more and more new agencies just for that foolish monopolist-wannabe agency to buy them until they go bankrupt and control nothing. When you buy another agency, what are you buying? Its employees? No, they are free people. You are just buying a brand name, an office and are now in charge of the security staff that can just be hired by someone else if they are offered more. Assuming someone could do that, to buy all the existing competition: The monopolist offers unacceptable conditions to its customers and this causes other protection agencies to move in the market, offering protection against the rogue agency. In the end it all just boils down to the fact that whenever a monopolist establishes itself, a huge bounty is there to be collected by the company(es) that break the monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490778350 118768723,118783918,2017-03-29 09:06:36,">>118783599 >they >they >they Next time you see societal/political rot ask yourself, and don't be afraid to do some digging if necessary, if a certain sunken eyed inbred tribe is behind it. If i'm right you'll be ruined as it's impossible to stop seeing the (((coincidences))). This inbred >>118783635 is right you'll notice Jews at no greater rate than they should be expected as ~2% of the population. >One Jew is.. 1:50 >Two Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:2500 >Three Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:125,000 >Four Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:6,250,000 >Five Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:312,500,000 >Six Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:15,625,000,000 >Seven Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:781,250,000,000",,Anonymous,national-unity-party-welcome-02.png,SEt0pI7ZQUkhP3MVV7BZmw==,CA,,1490778396 118768723,118783940,2017-03-29 09:06:54,">>118783829 I mean proving me that gun ownership is better than cops with graphs,stats etc...",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490778414 118768723,118784583,2017-03-29 09:15:00,">>118783665 Guns do bang bang. Pew pew. They are good because they kill bad stuff that wants to hurt you. Imagine being in the countryside and meeting a wild boar pack or something even worse. You'd truly be fucked without guns. >>118783940 Oh, wait, you want graphs. The main argument against anti-gun people is that the stats that they usually show to demonstrate that gun control ""works"" usually are stats that only show how gun crime has reduced as soon as gun bans were implemented. This means they are not focusing in the total amount of violence (murders, muggings, etc) commited but rather the tool that was used. tldr; they don't care if blood crimes go up, as long as those crimes are commited without guns (i.e. knives, bats, their own hands) If you only focus in gun violence it is of course reduced once a gun ban is implemented. But if you focus on overall violence, it actually goes up without guns.",,Anonymous,gun control infograph.jpg,R3WvdY4RBoLUC5ZW3qI9sQ==,ES,,1490778900 118768723,118784661,2017-03-29 09:16:01,">>118783940 Noone said there'd be no cops. There can well be privately payed security people. These will be more efficient in protecting you and your property than state-organized executive forces, because they bargain from protecting you real good. No infographs needed lel. But I guess /k/ sure has some nice infographs about why gun ownership is better than cops.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490778961 118768723,118784823,2017-03-29 09:17:59,">>118783918 Lol I don't deny the Jewish question. Fuck The state, Liberal spew Fuck the media, fuck the Jews. You got the wrong goyim.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490779079 118768723,118785089,2017-03-29 09:21:14,">>118783856 Your argument follows the premise that there will always be someone who will see this as a business opportunity and try to make money - but what if there isn't one around? Humans are unpredictable essentially and you'd really need to hammer the principles of freedom and free market into the heads of everyone to make everyone act according to its rules and to make it flawlessly work like in your argumentation I'll extend my scenario with some more details: >There were two other big competitors to the company, let's call it PoliceGold, and PoliceGold bought them at the same time with money that the owner of the company had inherited from his father, who was a billionaire >80% of the citizens are members of one of the three big police companies >PoliceGold sends out its policemen, many of whom were criminals and prisoners of the company who had been given guns and uniforms, to occupy the important buildings in the city, close it off and destroy the smaller police companies >A curfew is set up and all citizens are forced to hand in their guns and pay taxes to PoliceGold, otherwise they or their relatives get an unpleasant visit This is my scenario and I'm just wondering how would an anarchic society prevent statism from rising again? How can its ""anarchy"" be sustained?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490779274 118768723,118785208,2017-03-29 09:22:40,">>118785089 >>118783856 And I'll add that PoliceGold then prohibits the founding of new security firms",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490779360 118768723,118785261,2017-03-29 09:23:29,">>118784583 nice thanks I am the usual french anon but I will soon have a debate in my college about guns in the USA so I needed others arguments than ""muh freedom"" for it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490779409 118768723,118785652,2017-03-29 09:28:05,">>118785261 b-but.... this is the most important argument and should be enough :P",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490779685 118768723,118785711,2017-03-29 09:28:50,">>118785261 If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have them is also a nice argument imo",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490779730 118768723,118785817,2017-03-29 09:30:06,So you posted the updated version with the Rothbard Reading List. Nice!,,Anonymous,arabs dindu nuffin.png,YeVcS6ZuhZEbYEaCyGcE5Q==,PT,,1490779806 118768723,118785896,2017-03-29 09:31:02,">>118785652 I am in France dude,if you aren't a multiculti communist here you must be hanged in public,even thought I BTFO them on economics,on societal things I am not an expert so I needed some graphs or my peers would kill because ""hurr durr guns are bad,police is good,fuck the police""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490779862 118768723,118786158,2017-03-29 09:33:45,">>118785817 The ameribro helped me out as the initial pastebin (he changed it after he posted rothbard colletion) contained ""last post"" which would always be recognized as spam by the system. But he reformatted and it works now >>118785896 I know that feel breh it's no different here. AND I WAS KDDING reeeeeeeee",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490780025 118768723,118786252,2017-03-29 09:34:46,">>118785711 >BUT WHY WOULD YOU FEAR OUTLAWS IF YOU HAVE THE POLICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and few days before I proved them that cops in the USA aren't that racist and that they kill as many non-armed whites than non-armed blacks but then they tried to escape cognitive dissonence by saying there is a police conspiracy for not showing the (supposed) racism of cops they are this stupid",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490780086 118768723,118786260,2017-03-29 09:34:50,">>118785817 Is that picture telling me that 18% of the arabs in the US are mass shooters? I'm not good at math",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490780090 118768723,118786432,2017-03-29 09:36:34,">>118786252 Well you live in France what do you expect It's really funny how quick leftists go tinfoil-mode when their beliefs are challenged",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490780194 118768723,118786708,2017-03-29 09:39:33,">>118786432 While claiming you're tinfoiling yourself.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490780373 118768723,118786785,2017-03-29 09:40:27,">>118785089 >>118785208 This is a valid concern, though I'd like to stress out that it is not a matter of ""hammering the principles of freedom and free market"" because those are not really an ideology, but rather a description of what people tends to naturally act according to their own perceived interest. Market economies have naturally sprung everywhere in the planet in all ages, it is just human nature. >And I'll add that PoliceGold then prohibits the founding of new security firms Now, regarding the rogue police agency, what means do they dispose of for the enforcement of that ""prohibition""? Just because you say that something is prohibited it doesn't mean jack shit if you can't force it on the people. But yes, assuming that no new agencies dared to enter the market, there would be still some solutions. First things first, the agency would be prone to suffer terrorist attacks from angry people. Secondly, the agency would need some sort of system to know if you are earning money to enforce the mandatory payment (aka tax). If you don't earn money (or hide it) they can't coerce you out of it. Nowadays the state has a disastrous monopoly on currency to do that, and such a thing wouldn't exist in the first place since money would be a free market commodity. And most important, people could actually leave. I know people say the same of the current day nation-states, but the main difference is that nation-states are often huge pieces of land, often with strong border controls to prevent you from leaving, whereas in this new system the size of the jurisdiction is so ridiculously small that the ""border"" can be as close as a couple hundred meters and in the most extreme cases you could actually leave. The more jurisdictions that exist, the less power its territorial governments have over its people. That's why Hans Hermann Hoppe advocates for ""A Europe of a thousand Liechtensteins"".",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490780427 118768723,118786804,2017-03-29 09:40:45,">>118785261 Another important argument is the fact that police can't protect you from a threat 99% of the time because, well, they aren't physically there. People tends to obviate this plain and inescapable fact because they are uncomfortable with the fact that they are responsible for their own safety. I'll repeat because this cannot be stressed enough: police can't protect you from threats because they are almost never physically there when it happens. What's more, the places where physical threats are more probably bound to happen are often places where police doesn't even show up at all. No-go zones are the #1 argument for the right of self-defense.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490780445 118768723,118787199,2017-03-29 09:45:40,"Hello fellow libertards! I want to see if you can help me. I recently got into an argument with my rabbi about the logistics of running a libertarian society. He argued that such a society couldn't exist since basic infrastructure like roads wouldn't be built. I had no counterargument and was utterly destroyed in the debate. Do any of you fellow libertarian conservatives have any arguments that could help me not get fucking rekt in every debate??",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490780740 118768723,118787420,2017-03-29 09:48:24,">>118787199 Tell him that in a libertarian society everyone will go to work in helicopters.",,Anonymous,chosen one.png,iqzx98vJg7OpJqn3M3lC+g==,ES,,1490780904 118768723,118787482,2017-03-29 09:49:21,">>118787199 You sound baiting but I will take it France (even though we are socialist as fuck) has privatized roads and they are still nice toll mothafucka",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490780961 118768723,118787656,2017-03-29 09:51:26,">>118787199 weak bait breh",,Anonymous,shud_da_fug_up.jpg,JNCBx//VzEiOXvzbJQy3Xg==,DE,,1490781086 118768723,118788076,2017-03-29 09:56:52,">>118783106 Standard Oil's monopoly was had thanks to the government. Rothbard covered this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490781412 118768723,118788424,2017-03-29 10:01:12,">>118786785 Okay I'll extend the scenario a bit further >PoliceGold has the means to prohibit the founding of new security firms by seizing all weaponry and regulating the founding of businesses - If illegal business activity is reported, the informer will be rewarded and the business will be closed and its owner punished >PoliceGold completely closes off the city (noone can leave or enter without permission), takes over all companies in the city and controls the goods that enter the city >By collecting all data of the companies in the city, they know who has a job and how much they earn and thus can tax them >PoliceGold sets up a policy that the closest relatives of terrorists shall be killed and their property seized Again, how could an anarchic society be sustainable without becoming a statist society again?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490781672 118768723,118789216,2017-03-29 10:10:06,Happy little bonk,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490782206 118768723,118789592,2017-03-29 10:14:37,"The reality is this: NatSoc poses little to no threat to the Jewish establishment, because the philosophy is not backed by strong arguments so it cannot gain influence. Trump, Bannon, etc. will never be NatSocs, the government will never be NatSoc. AnCap on the other hand poses a huge threat to the establishment with its strong arguments. There will be people in government who want to reduce and remove that government, and this truly threatens the jewish establishment. That's why NatSoc and Communism will remain ''allowed'' ideologies, widely known and promoted (even by attack articles) and AnCap will be ignored, hidden, and shilled heavily. But (((they))) can't stop the transmission here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490782477 118768723,118790081,2017-03-29 10:20:03,">>118789592 Spot on. >inb4 stromies go MUH RÄC IZ LE BIGEEST ARGUMEND :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD no it's not.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490782803 118768723,118790248,2017-03-29 10:21:49,Have a bump. I can't spend much time here today. Unlike NEETsoc and commie posters who have all day to shill.,,Anonymous,AncapBall.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1490782909 118768723,118790935,2017-03-29 10:29:12,">>118788424 They would be pretty much the definition of a state. As I said, passive resistance would be key to bringing down such a horrible parasitic institution to society. It's all there is to it, and it applies to the current day state problem today. The most viable path to succes is that people correctly identify the state/rogue-agency as an enemy they do not owe any kind of loyalty and which they do not have any obligation (always happens when things get bad enough) and somehow they manage to withold their resources (black market activity, tax fraud, emigration, etc. etc.) and as the underground economy grows the state has more and more problems financing the massive apparatus of coercion. It might impose a fiat currency system to finance itself through inflation but if that becomes its main source of income the currency itself will be soon bankrupt as well. Sooner or later the state doesn't even have resources and all its power evaporates as the resources for paying the thugs simply aren't there to be extracted. The thugs and violent people that had a position inside the state apparatus start doing more and more independent ""entrepeneurial"" violence until a few of them realize that in the long run they have more to gain by offering protection instead of plundering. That is called agorism. It is the most viable strategy for bringing down state power, and it has a history of success in Eastern Europe bringing down the USSR socialist regimes and pretty much everywhere else where economic freedom is heavily repressed.",,Anonymous,agorism blackmarket.jpg,GmalMlcv2ZToWjpBLUmZyA==,ES,,1490783352 118768723,118792013,2017-03-29 10:40:05,">>118790081 >inb4 you say to them that Rothbard was a race-realist and they go full meltdown",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490784005 118768723,118792570,2017-03-29 10:45:49,">>118789592 I don't agree. Whether or not anarcho capitalism is an ideal society or not, you have to admit that only some fringe crazies (a term I am using affectionately) actually understand and agree with the arguments in favour of such a society. Even more moderate libertarianism is hardly taken seriously by the average person.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490784349 118768723,118792647,2017-03-29 10:46:31,">>118790935 That's true but there's no structure, no mechanism, no higher force that could prevent a rogue police agency transforming a city into a dictatorship and that's the problem I see in AnCapism",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490784391 118768723,118793506,2017-03-29 10:56:04,">>118792013 lel >>118792647 But - without being sarcastic - what's your point ? If everything bad comes together, sure that MIGHT happen, but it's very very unlikely, because the people would need the confine or even give up their liberty beforehand - at least partially. When the society is free from the bone - unlike today I gotta say - it's hardly imaginable that people would curb their rights so much that the corporation could just take over. Remember, an ancap society is a 100% voluntary society. To be honest I'd rather live in a society where the possibility is rather low and where you have any right to fight back against such violence instead of what we have today - the already existing ""megacorp"" contrtolling everything but no possibility of fighting back, because it's prevalent everywhere on the globe. Sure I'm not v& for random shit .... yet. And I also know that's highly idealistic, but I'd rather have it tried and won or lost than not having it done anyway.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490784964 118768723,118793681,2017-03-29 10:57:40,">>118793506 Okay you're right there",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490785060 118768723,118794040,2017-03-29 11:01:50,">>118793506 history is made by the dreamers,not trying it is taking no risks for making the world better",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490785310 118768723,118794511,2017-03-29 11:07:00,Glad to see these threads are growing stronger.,,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490785620 118768723,118794519,2017-03-29 11:07:03,">>118793681 >>118794040 thank you Also hoppe little bonk",,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU2NjY4NjQ3My5qcGcifQ.jRA9sqm02dUhW5XpJf1z9xHGd00.jpg,pvmnkuUUzHNOvOX6gnelBg==,DE,,1490785623 118768723,118794938,2017-03-29 11:11:20,,,Anonymous,deaths by pigs.jpg,B6QJP5VjOVtU0O/rX092Sg==,NL,,1490785880 118768723,118795259,2017-03-29 11:14:45,">>118768723 libertarians are just small gov free market capitalists who really really want a label so they can join in the faggotry fuck your labels make every political label 1000 characters long and force people to make it a concise yet complete and specific, honest insight into their political and moralfag views and then things would be simpler",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1490786085 118768723,118795405,2017-03-29 11:16:25,">>118768789 none of these were socialists none of them were zionists none of them were globalists stop being faggots by lying through selective truth - you fucking nigger muslim taqiyya cuntfucks",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1490786185 118768723,118795418,2017-03-29 11:16:32,">>118794938 >world war one is caused by capitalism >world war two also kys ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490786192 118768723,118795538,2017-03-29 11:17:36,nosteponsnek.jpg,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490786256 118768723,118795852,2017-03-29 11:20:52,">>118794938 The United States constitution's purpose is to prevent a empire moron, that's want the founding fathers wanted to prevent if you took a history class",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490786452 118768723,118796442,2017-03-29 11:27:16,">>118794938 >hi i have a random collection of numbers and if you didn't know they're totally related to capitalism >1 post by this ID",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490786836 118768723,118797074,2017-03-29 11:33:48,">>118794938 Only 1.6 billion? Come on guys we need to get that number up to about 3 billion. Each of you get out there and kill some commies.",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,US,,1490787228 118768723,118797207,2017-03-29 11:35:08,">>118768723 SNEKS",,Anonymous,1490387505340.jpg,FlSH1OHZ0nnUAsD2+dLcUg==,US,,1490787308 118768723,118797339,2017-03-29 11:36:29,">>118787199 >He argued that such a society couldn't exist since basic infrastructure like roads wouldn't be built. He's 100% correct. The ""roads"" argument is essentially impossible to refute without violating NAP because there is no way to build highways without making use of eminent domain laws. Same applies to things like railroads and utilities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490787389 118768723,118797397,2017-03-29 11:37:01,">>118794938 I don't even want to know what the moron who did this even understands as capitalism. >>118795405 It's a hardcore case of confirmation bias. They already think that de joos are behind everything, so they interpret whatever they find in a way that suits them. >>118797207 tfw I had a grand-uncle that fought in the División Azul against the commies.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490787421 118768723,118797614,2017-03-29 11:38:55,>>118797339,,Anonymous,BatmanILIKECHOCOLATEMILK#.png,DdU+ueqm6NcvIY4QOfcVmQ==,DE,,1490787535 118768723,118798474,2017-03-29 11:47:53,Bump,,Anonymous,1486330172280_pol.gif,NVpLQZZCftr2HhVNCI1POA==,US,,1490788073 118768723,118798600,2017-03-29 11:49:05,">Not being a minarchist Sad!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490788145 118768723,118798921,2017-03-29 11:52:02,">>118797339 So you believe that the only way to make roads is to kick people that live in the way out of their homes and bulldozing them, and that this is actually good. You'd get fucking removed if you tried that.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490788322 118768723,118799377,2017-03-29 11:56:23,"Thread is getting slower, so I'll try to get it going by asking you for your opinion on some contoverse topics. 1.What is your stance on abortion? Do you think it violates the NAP or not? 2.Do you think copyright should be kept alive in a AnCap society (privatized of course)? 3.What kind of political system would you like to have as a transitional system before going into Anarcho Capitalism, if any? (This is more of a personal than a ideological question) 1.I think that the fact that the fetus will be a child at one point stops the fetus from being the property of the mother and turns it into a independent individual. I'd advocate that abortion is a violation of the NAP and should have at least some kind of consequences for the woman and the doctor helping her kill the child, unless the community they are residents of specifically states otherwise. 2.I think that rthe concept of intellectual property harms the free market and discourages entrepreneurs from creating their cheaper/better take on an original product. Competition is more important than protecting a original idea. 3.I'd honestly prefer a (constitutional) monarchy over another kind of benevolent dictaorship. I'd be fine with a Pinochet military junta, but I have the feeling speaking to the people on a traditional level is more effective. Once a monarchy with a well armed populace is established, splitting the country into smaller and smaller pieces will help us achieving our goal. These are issues many AnCaps don't yet agree on 100%, so I am interested in your opinion.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490788583 118768723,118799815,2017-03-29 12:00:58,">>118798921 Yes, building highways does require use of eminent domain laws. Otherwise, it would take decades to build anything because of the need to constantly haggle with property owners.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490788858 118768723,118799930,2017-03-29 12:02:08,">>118799815 There is no basis for such opinion.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490788928 118768723,118800069,2017-03-29 12:03:25,">>118799377 2. How would you accomplish that?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490789005 118768723,118800326,2017-03-29 12:05:51,">>118799377 1:the child is the property of the parents,but people should have the right of discouraging aborting women (illegal in France)and doctors have the right of not doing abortions,private christian(for example) adoption centers would be a good alternative 2:copyright is imposed monopoly on ideas,also you can't steal fucking thoughts if it was the case there would be thousands of trials for pepsi vs coca-cola vs dr peppers etc... 3:confederal tribalism,each region has it's law but for ethnical/religious reasons they have a pact where any country attacks one region,all others responds PS:bonus points for private armies (who have a blood pact for not betray the confederation against the enemy because I am not retarded",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490789151 118768723,118800450,2017-03-29 12:07:02,">>118799930 Okay, so how do you build highways then? How do you secure all the required land? How do you fund the project? Without eminent domain, there is no way to secure the required land without haggling with potential hundreds, or perhaps even THOUSANDS of different property owners. That kind of deal will take years, if not decades. And without taxes there is no way to secure funding. The road will be never be built.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490789222 118768723,118800478,2017-03-29 12:07:19,">>118799377 regarding 1.) If you're strict, then the fetus is, until developed into it's human ""ground state"", not a person and has therefore no right on his own property. In that case the mother could abort up to the point where the ""ground state"" is developed. I think that's a topic that heavily depends on ideological and religious background, too. If you come from a pure johnson-libertarian background, you'd probably shit on the kid anyway. If you're Christian you'd never even think about aborting, if you know what I mean. regarding 2.) There is virtually no intellectual property. You can own the book or the computer it's written on/in, but you cannot own the information itself. One of the guys provided one or two really nice links yesterday but I forgot to save em, sadly. regarding 3.) I personally think that a monarchy is not suited to go from gov to no gov, because after all the monarch is human and as he has the biggest amount (prolly even absolute) of power, he won't give that up for the sake of liberating all others ... I think. In my opinion a minarchy would be better. Really small government to just protect the most essential ""personal rights"" and the people already have a suitable mind set for going from gov to no gov - at least mostly.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490789239 118768723,118800757,2017-03-29 12:09:57,">>118769581 National Socialism is not (((Marxist))) Socialism, Hans. >One of the most plagued questions we get when talking about Fascism is economics, normally brought up by people still stuck in a liberal mentality and limited scope of perception, where everything is defined in term of social and economic policies, rather than principles derived from the notion of a singular Truth and Order that dominates the world. >The variety of historic economic plans and practices maintained by various champions of our Struggle likewise distorts any comprehensive answer to the question. >All in all we've simply answered people that economics are secondary, they don't matter in such a way as to be a fundamental and defining element of Fascism. >The answer didn't change, however there is now a way in which we can describe this attitude to economics, and it's actually a word we've used repeatedly in reference to Fascism anyway: Socialism. As well, listen to this speech by George Lincoln Rockwell which explains the differences between communism and national socialism: https://youtu.be/x1tUFx_StSo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490789397 118768723,118801188,2017-03-29 12:14:15,">>118799377 >1.What is your stance on abortion? Do you think it violates the NAP or not? I don't think the NAP applies to a fetus because a fetus is not a rational actor capable of engaging in argumentation. Any entity not capable of engaging in argumentation or answering ""Yes"" or ""No"" to a question is not entitled to the same property rights as humans. Although I'd wish to live in a covenant whose tenants enforce anti-abortion property rights (abortion must be out-of-covenant) or even expel a woman for abortion. I think this issue should be left to the families in this case, and they should suffer whatever consequences spring from it. >2.Do you think copyright should be kept alive in a AnCap society (privatized of course)? No. You cannot control someone's ideas or thoughts. Copyright applies to non-scarce resources (ideas), which should be classified as free goods (just like air cannot be ""homesteaded"" or privatized). >3.What kind of political system would you like to have as a transitional system before going into Anarcho Capitalism, if any? (This is more of a personal than a ideological question) Possibly a minarchist confederacy.",,Anonymous,1488747927597.png,bS/n+OcobuxGJq2Hs6uasQ==,PT,,1490789655 118768723,118801282,2017-03-29 12:15:17,">>118800757 That's just a lazy way to opt out. >ITS NOT DEFINABLE AND SECONDARY Yeah gtfo. Your beloved system enforces work or die, ideological consent or die, it's not sustainable, because it needs to wage war upon foreign people, it's highly collectivistic anyway, it needs a common ideological enemy to keep the slaves together. yeah no. It's exactly the same (((socialism))) as in marxist socialism. It just has this weirdo delusional touch of race or ethnicity if you will",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490789717 118768723,118801636,2017-03-29 12:18:22,">>118797074 >not 6 billion goy please",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490789902 118768723,118801678,2017-03-29 12:18:44,">>118800069 Are you reffering to privatized copyright? If so, I have no idea, that's why I don't advocate for it. But Rothabrd has some ideas about it, something I disagree with him about (one of the few thing to be honest) >>118800478 >>118801188 I think you underestimate the direction a costitutional monarchy can go. I definetely am against a absolute monarchy, but a monarchy whose sole purpose is protecting a libertarian framwork is basically a minarchy. The difference is the beginning of the system. I think it is easier to justify a monarchy than a minarchy, since you've got the historic basis already, but I can see where you two are coming from.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490789924 118768723,118801950,2017-03-29 12:21:24,">>118800450 It all just becomes an entrepeneurial question. The funding is private investment, since people save or take loans for things that they believe will make them even more money. The land is bought, assuming anyone had a legitimate claim in any plot of land in between A and B. The owners are offered a reasonable amount, lower than what would cost to redraw the plans to evade the property. If X owner refuses the offer the plans are redrawn so the road doesn't pass through that person's property. Once the road is built it is monetized through several different ways that might or might not involve charging user fees. Alternatively, roads could be built and owned by community associations, though those probably would have less funding and only work in a smaller and more local level. I don't think all that was so hard to realize. Extra redpill: Eminent domain only exists for the state to have an excuse to confiscate private property and redistribute it to its cronies. People like Donald Trump, for example, are known for having acquired so much wealth due to eminent domain abuse. He was a really good friend of the Clintons, you know.",,Anonymous,private-roads-comic.png,SET2TlD8/bze/Zi3PlH02A==,ES,,1490790084 118768723,118802010,2017-03-29 12:22:00,">>118801678 Monarchy and minarchy are pretty much the same thing. Kings that try and fuck around with people's savings and the economy are usually zapped by their families so their sustenance isn't ruined by some madman. Perhaps a highly decentralized, cantonal confederacy?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490790120 118768723,118802030,2017-03-29 12:22:11,">>118800757 Even if NatSoc isn't socialism (which it is), it definetely is collectivism. I deeply oppose the idea of putting anything above my self interest. Nothing is more valuable than me or my interests and that is something that national socialism tries to undermine. In addition, this doesn't mean I don't care for my family/tradition/culture/region, it just means that I don't want to have my priorities set by a outside force. I don't believe in ""Don't ask what the nation can do for you. Ask what you can do for your nation."" and nothing will change that.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490790131 118768723,118802372,2017-03-29 12:25:23,">>118801678 Yeah you're absolutely right with the historic legitimacy. I mean in principle you're on the same page with monarchy acting as minarchy as far as I understand, just the basis is a bit different ;D It breaks down to how you can establish that anyway, ne it ""democratic minarchy"" or the ""constitutional monarchistic minarchy"". The details aren't so important as to how you can introduce reduction of the state or a general change in the mind set of people - in times where hartz-tv is more appreciated than reading a book, if you know what I mean",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490790323 118768723,118802435,2017-03-29 12:26:05,">>118802010 Monarchism/Minarchism (technically the same if handled correctly) with highly souvereign regions that slowly become more and more independant until the confederacy dissolves into microstates over time. In this way order as well culture could be preserved. I think especially in regions where regionalism already is a thing this could be a pretty attractive solution for anti establishment people that aren't already on our side.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490790365 118768723,118802719,2017-03-29 12:29:02,">>118802435 Yes, I agree. Although I think a king may be better because if we were to have a democratic minarchy we'd ruin it by letting non-patricians vote. If we are to have a democracy then only property-owning heads of households should vote, since they have the lowest time preferences and would hopefully not fall for the welfare meme.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490790542 118768723,118802859,2017-03-29 12:30:22,">>118802372 Believe it or not, people are incredibly receptive for anti establishment ideas right now. People who traditionally vote CDU/CSU are tired of all of the crap but don't want to get called a nazi. If you tell them about opposing the political system all together, they often agree with you 100%. Especially if you are talking with workers. The traditional left wing supporters are losing faith, they will agree with you that taxation is utterly moronic and keeping your money instead of having it redistributed is more efficent. Once you get them to realize that le evil corporations are only existing because the government allows it, they are pretty much our allies. People are sick of gibs, they want self determination. There is no rise of nationalism in Europe, but in anti establishmentarism, we have to use this to ur advantage.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490790622 118768723,118803012,2017-03-29 12:31:41,">>118801678 >>118801188 Without copyright laws there would be very little incentive for any private company to ever try to do anything innovative or inventive. But that's not even the biggest problem here. The biggest problem would be that it would IMPOSSIBLE for any company to protect their reputation. When go into Moe's to get a burrito, you feel safe in knowing that you're going to get good food because you know and trust the Moe's brand. That branding is secured using copyright laws. Without that, ANYBODY could open up a restaurant and call it Moe's using the Moe's logo without their permission. Suddenly, Moe's loses their good reputation because of all the cheap, low quality knock-offs. >>118801950 The end result would be a confusing mess of sprawling, unorganized roads. The types of long, smooth highways that the modern economy depends on would be non-existent. Why is it that you can order a cell-phone holder from Amazon and it shows up at your house the next day? Highways make that possible.",,Anonymous,635963407273497895595595674_635925635565827513314281901_winter-park-fl-027.jpg,w/7hJckNHeOMcT4BtxTU1A==,US,,1490790701 118768723,118803409,2017-03-29 12:35:21,">>118802719 Yeah, I agree absolutely. Democracy presumes that there are laws that should be able to change. If we libertarians/minarchists/AnCaps agree on one thing, then that there are only one kind of laws: the natural laws, integrity of oneself and one's property, nothing more. Why should there be the possibility of changing that? So if you don't need to change that, why should one need elections? Foreign politics are not needed either. One should strive to reach Switzerland neutrality tier. Switzerland could basically be remodelled into the first step of AnCapistan right now if they'd role down on everything ecept the natural laws. Who needs a superpower of a country? Switzerland is prosperous, removing its democracy would ensure that it stays that way.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490790921 118768723,118803451,2017-03-29 12:35:46,">>118801678 Yeah, referring to privatised copyright. Could be a thing in a minarchist government, but it seems implausible at the least for AnCap",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490790946 118768723,118803510,2017-03-29 12:36:26,">>118775172 egalitarians must leave. If you have no respect for private property rights, get the fuck out",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490790986 118768723,118803683,2017-03-29 12:38:16,">>118802859 Oh is it ? That's great ! Too bad the pirates are retarded morons and FDP went to become establishment cucks ... I wonder how hard it'd be to take over pirates (as FDP is way tooooooooo established to get that done) and turn their johnson-SJW-liberalism into real libertarisnism or ancapism. But it would take a network or people joining local sections to change their directions",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490791096 118768723,118803742,2017-03-29 12:39:00,">>118802859 >>118802719 What about a combination of Communitarianism and Hoppean Libertarianism? With this voting system: Family Vote < Group Vote (Town/Suburb) < Larger Group Vote (City/State) = Decison",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490791140 118768723,118803883,2017-03-29 12:40:38,">>118803012 >>118803451 Ok, listen here, I've thought about it. In regular Anarchy focused Capitalism you'd have thatg problem. Look at Hoppe libertariansim. Let's say you want to open a Moe's in a community. You are allowed into it and can run it. Someone else wants to do the same. Now the communjity has the right to deny him access unless he openly makes it visible that he isn't the same as his competitior. The right of discrimination gives the consumer the possibility to defend a fair and free market. If it were different and for example a company created a smartphone and another company said they had a cheaper and better version of it, people could allow them to open their business since they are interested in the better alternative. Not only would they now have a better product, but the original business would have now an incent to better its own ways to gain profit again.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490791238 118768723,118804095,2017-03-29 12:42:52,">>118803409 Indeed so. But I have a feeling even the Swiss are beginning to fall for the egalitarian meme. Wasn't there an important referendum a while back where they voted for the ""wrong"" option? >>118803012 IP laws are a form of monopoly privilege and stifle innovation, not ensure it. As to the copy-cat argument, I'd say there would exist regulatory agencies (metaregulatoryagency.png) that would make sure what was and was not a ""real"" Moe's. And of course those certificates could only be given to the original Moe's chain restaurants, so it's very likely that Moe's would still operate. And if their food was indeed better, knockoff Moe's would only exist sparingly and in places where the real Moe's weren't around.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490791372 118768723,118804127,2017-03-29 12:43:11,">>118802719 >>118803409 >>118803742 Have any of you read Caplan's The Myth of the Rational voter? It gives some suggestions at the end as to how to remodel democracy to make outcomes more like the recommendations of policy experts. Of course not all policy experts are libertarian, but they are far more libertarian than the average voter. It's quite unrealistic, but the answer is to give people political tests on objective facts. For example, who is the president, how many seats are there in the senate, what percentage of the government budget is spent on defence. Since these questions require more expert knowledge, people who answer them correctly and would be able to vote have opinions more like experts than the average person.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490791391 118768723,118804173,2017-03-29 12:43:34,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490791414 118768723,118804222,2017-03-29 12:43:57,,,Anonymous,1483799739714.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,US,,1490791437 118768723,118804326,2017-03-29 12:45:04,">>118799377 >What is your stance on abortion? Do you think it violates the NAP or not? Philosophy behind it doesn't really matter. If the mother switches the insurance provider, I doubt people will go to war with each other over a fetus. They can still force her out through collective discrimination. >copyright Not gonna be enforced. >What kind of political system would you like to have as a transitional system Give voting rights to property owners only and encourage decentralization. Hopefully in the end people won't want to be under a central govt and you can secede. >>118803012 >very little incentive for any private company to ever try to do anything innovative The technology advancement is pushed harder in a free market. If you want to compete you have to fund R&D. Now companies can just sit on their patents, like Intel. Also if you plan on reverse engineering competing products how do you do that without funding an R&D department? >ANYBODY could open up a restaurant and call it Moe's using the Moe's logo without their permission. Companies list official businesses on their websites. Word would get around that your product is garbage. And if it's not and you happen to have the same name and logo, who cares?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490791504 118768723,118804394,2017-03-29 12:45:44,">>118803012 Population is usually concentrated enough not to have to strike a deal with a different owner of whatever every hundred meters of planned road. Most of the land is unowned and there would be no problem in using it to build. And regarding copyright laws, specifically patenting, it's actually the opposite. Imagine there are two independent groups of scientists working in a private R&D department researching something. Both have invested millions in the same subject and are about to find something big that could make lots of money, either by inventing something new or improving another existing thing. If one finishes the research a week before the other and patents the invention all the millions invested by the second group would have been for nothing. Patenting actually disincentivizes scientific research. >>118803451 The only form of copyright conceivable in a private law society would be bilateral private non-disclosure agreements that would be enforced by an agreed agency by both parties. If A person wants to reveal X information to B person but keep it secret both could sign such an agreement beforehand and if B did reveal such information he would be investigated by the agency and forced to pay the specific compensation in the contract.",,Anonymous,mises.org.jpg,U93xsDx9LAhToLe8j8cCag==,ES,,1490791544 118768723,118804395,2017-03-29 12:45:44,">>118803742 Hey, what you do in your own community is none of my business. If you want to implement such a system in your community, do as you please. Hell, I even advocated for Rojava kurd socialism once, since they don't commit ideological imperialism. Everybody who fights with them wants the same thing, a independent territory where they can decide what to do, without forcing anyone into their system. I don't care if their system succeeds or not, if they don't force anybody into it they can do it, why should I care. That'S the thing, we hate communists for infiltrating the current system and forcing their nonsense onto us, once we've got the right of free association, why should we stop you from banding together with people who think like you? If you want to help a suffering neighbour out or want him to have a voice in the community through a vote, why the hell not? Just stay in your community and it's fine.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490791544 118768723,118804609,2017-03-29 12:48:11,">>118803742 I'd rather have people only having a say in how their specific canton/covenant is ruled and not how the others are ruled. And even then it should not be called a democracy but a meritocracy. Certainly the town drunk or the homeless in the street would have absolutely no right to decide what happens in the covenant.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490791691 118768723,118804627,2017-03-29 12:48:24,">>118803883 Can you give me a summary of Hoppe libertariansim? I udnerstand it a bit and it seems ok. >>118804127 Well I guess it would depend on what the community is made up of. The community could still vote like that on yes no decisions for budgets or for someone to organize a budget.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490791704 118768723,118804839,2017-03-29 12:50:35,">>118768723 So what's the discussion. Do we have to read all that shit or can you wrap it up for me. Small market Libertarianism is ok until you take it to the point of ""well, if my product kills someone then just don't buy it"". Got to have some rules or the customer complaint will include a shotgun.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490791835 118768723,118804859,2017-03-29 12:50:48,">>118803683 This should be added to the pastebin imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490791848 118768723,118804961,2017-03-29 12:51:47,">>118804127 To be honest, I think that would worsen our situation. Rule of the mob is not good, but a unrestricted rule of the mob (which we curently don't have) is horrific. But the thing is, it is horrific because it is unpredictable. Having a direct democracy would destablize the establishment immensely. here in Germany for example, cuckservatives and commies alike hate the idea of a direct democray because of muh populism. I know that this can backfire, but right now, a direct democracy would help us achieving our goals. For example, these points I am convinced would be approved by the people in a direct democracy: -Reducing the restrictions on gun laws and enforcing stand your own ground laws -closing the border -impeaching Merkel Overall, the current mood indicates that a chaotic direct democracy would take power away from the government. If that would happen, we'd have an opputunity of getting our way.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490791907 118768723,118804962,2017-03-29 12:51:48,">>118804839 Watch this: >>118804859",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490791908 118768723,118805051,2017-03-29 12:52:38,">>118804839 >well, if my product kills someone then just don't buy it And the FDA makes it so competition is stifled, the prices are inflated and then the product kills you",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490791958 118768723,118805119,2017-03-29 12:53:14,">>118768723 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWnz_clLWpc",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490791994 118768723,118805186,2017-03-29 12:53:52,">>118804395 I talked about my ideal way to have a society before, the main thing was to prevent subversion from (((Them))) >>118804609 > canton/covenant ??? We'll the only people who would be able to vote would be the male who has a family (Including Children), assuming they are voting for their best interest. >>118804395 >>118804609 Assuming you could run a small nation, how would you prevent subversion and degeneracy/cultural Marxism happening today? The way I have though up so far: Ethnic Nationalist (Immigration is only allowed to white people who have a family or are young and single(and have useful skills)) Free speech (Unless Subversion(Marxist/Zionist etc) Right to Self defence Right to bear arms (Unless Violent offender,)(Gone through basic training and safty course) Socially (?) Conservative (Women dress modestly same with Men)(1 Vote per Family) (Divorce only because of adultry) (Public shaming of premartial sex and adultry) Religion: Christian (Does not include Catholism, Mormons, Jehovah Witness etc.)(Ones that follow the Bible and belive in the trinity) Family: Benefits from having children enforced depending on birthrate Work: Whatever pay the employee agrees on. Any attempt at subversion = Instant deportation",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490792032 118768723,118805342,2017-03-29 12:55:19,WIENERSNITCHZEL,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490792119 118768723,118805424,2017-03-29 12:56:09,">>118805119 but who will pay da taxes",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490792169 118768723,118805445,2017-03-29 12:56:20,">>118804326 >Word would get around that your product is garbage. And that's exactly the problem. If you're selling shit while using somebody else's branding, then you're hurting their reputation without even trying. >>118804095 >IP laws are a form of monopoly privilege and stifle innovation, not ensure it. I do think that a case could be made that sometimes IP laws go too far, but they're still a necessary part of capitalism. No company is ever going to be able to properly advertise or manage their reputation if somebody else can just come along and copy their branding. What's to stop somebody from writing a book and putting John Grisham's name on it just so it sells better? This directly harms John's reputation as an author.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490792180 118768723,118805754,2017-03-29 12:59:31,">>118805342 What's the threshold of posts when threads aren't bumped anymore ? >>118805186 I'd agree mostly but I see a problem with your free speech point. How would you decide what's subversive and what's not ? Just out of curiosity",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490792371 118768723,118805824,2017-03-29 13:00:07,">>118804961 Just because the mob agrees with you for once doesn't mean that they support favourable policy the rest of the time. Also, plenty of conservatives and commies are more in favour of restricted voting, but that doesn't mean that they want more informed people to vote. The mob will eventually just elect a populist, who won't have many libertarian policies in mind, a la Trump.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490792407 118768723,118805908,2017-03-29 13:00:58,">>118804627 >Can you give me a summary of Hoppe libertariansim? Sure. Think of your AnCapistan preset. Unlike Antifa anarchists, you have to think about what comes after achieving a stateless system. What should happen? People get together in groups, people they agree with. Voluntarily they form communities with their own rules they can all agree on. They basically form a microstate. Hoppe libertarianism is NOT stateless, but it hasn't a government that dares to call itself a representative of people who diasgree with its rules. Forming your own country is not possible in our current system, you have to bend over for your country's rules. Once you have created said microstate, you are allowed to let anyone in or ban anyone from getting in, as owner of the property it is your decision. It has some parallels with Feudalism, with the owner of the property being the ""lord"", but since there exists a free market of communities, he will try to please his fellow inhabitants to not lose them. Also, a main issue of traditional feudalism also doesn't exist, the succession of blood. You don't have a hereditary system but rather a meritocratiy. Not nobles but anybody who has the skill of achieving something can get into the role of owning a property. You don't need to be born into that role, you can work to achieve it. But nothing stops you from just living in the community if you don't want to take the risk of investing and possibly failing. basically, it is applying the free market on gated communities.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490792458 118768723,118805930,2017-03-29 13:01:08,">>118805445 >If you're selling shit while using somebody else's branding >so people buying counterfeit goods are destroying coorporations? They usually know what they're getting themselves into. And if they didn't, good. Maybe they'll use their head next time.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490792468 118768723,118806005,2017-03-29 13:01:53,">>118804627 >civilization is built on private property rights and the nuclear family structure >the places where private property rights are strongest are the most civilized and prosperous >the ""original sin"" that got Mankind out of the natural order was when feudal aristocrats joined the intellectual class and established fiefdoms/kingdoms >further degeneration when the absolute monarchs became constitutional monarchs, since a constitution codifies and institutionalizes a King's authority >Kings are therefore given ""free reign"" since they have constitutional powers and the initial usurpation of power that had been previously in the back of people's minds at all the times went away >the West entered a spiral of further degeneration after World War 1, since the war took an ideological turn after the US entered the war >between the conflicting sides, monarchy and democracy, the latter won >monarchy is a ""privately-owned"" government; the king has a personal interest in maintaining his country because a) he can pass it on to his children as inheritance; b) if he abstains from current revenue consumption (overtaxing) then the market economy grows and the parasitical state apparatus can slowly draw more income over time, albeit at a lower tax rate; c) the line between the ruler and the ruled is clear, and the king would be instantly blamed and hated if he fucked with people's lives; d) his ""social contract"" is to uphold the everlasting Law, Natural Law, and therefore he will not engage in too much property expropriation and looting >democracy, on the other hand, is ""publicly-owned"" government: there is ""free entry"" into becoming President or Prime Minister (which is what constitutes democratic ""equality before the law""), therefore abolishing all moral constraints by the people in coveting each other's property; the line between the ruler and ruled is blurred, and demagoguery and pandering is therefore increased.... 1/?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490792513 118768723,118806011,2017-03-29 13:01:57,">>118805824 Democracy is exactly the problem. Decentralization is the solution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k12teOokSqM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490792517 118768723,118806126,2017-03-29 13:03:17,"Am I home? Although, I strongly favor a robust public education system to an entirely privatized one.",,Anonymous,spekr2.png,Cm58DpTcjLGm1dEozmMpVQ==,US,,1490792597 118768723,118806226,2017-03-29 13:04:10,">>118775208 >Tritnaha Today it's a mosque. Not even kidding, google it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490792650 118768723,118806235,2017-03-29 13:04:15,">>118805754 300 posts is the bump limit",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490792655 118768723,118806369,2017-03-29 13:05:28,">>118805186 >Assuming you could run a small nation, how would you prevent subversion and degeneracy/cultural Marxism happening today? All of your points could be turned into reality in your own community. Maybe other communities would be not that smart and let in harmful people, but those retards would have destroyed the whole nation if it existed. Focusing conservative people into one region is the only solution. Maybe you have to sacrifice territory, but atleast you can uphold culture. >>118805824 Like I said, the current mood indicates that. Mob rule is unpredictable but also damages the establishment. It is no long term solution, but for example in my case, voting a party like the AfD, that advocates a more direct democracy is definetely benefitial, since it not only makes the dismanteling of unjust laws easier, it also opens up the possibility of simplified processes for secession, which I very strongly advocate.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490792728 118768723,118806406,2017-03-29 13:05:43,">When a morbidly obese leftie tells you to pay for his healthcare. >When the hobos that are churning 5 or 6 kids tell you to pay for their education. >When the negro that steals your bike and shits up your city asks you to pay his welfare. >When the AIDS-infested whore asks you to pay for her abortion. >When the career politician asks you to pay for his pension. >When you realize they are not asking, but taking.",,Anonymous,stateless capitalism.png,ip2Iy9hF7e9tClf++WbxoA==,ES,,1490792743 118768723,118806452,2017-03-29 13:06:07,">>118805930 Another example. I take one of John Grisham's books, copy it verbatim, and sell it as if I wrote it. In the real-world, he could sue me for damages because the government recognizes his stories and characters as being his copyrighted intellectual property that can't be published without his permission. But in ancapistan, he can't do a thing about it. All he can do is watch helplessly as I copy all his books and sell them at discount price.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490792767 118768723,118806472,2017-03-29 13:06:16,">>118775573 >There are only one kind of rights, the natural rights SPOOKED.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490792776 118768723,118806477,2017-03-29 13:06:18,">>118806126 Why? The current education system is broken and doesn't actually get or prepare you for a job. Public education is extremely inefficient and wastes money. Trade schools are a better solution and private. You should be able to pay for your child's education and they should provide him/her with connections to a job afterwards. Much like 2yr nursing schools, business schools, or law school.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490792778 118768723,118806492,2017-03-29 13:06:24,">>118805908 Even though I'm not an ancap, this makes sense. I do completely disagree with Hoppe's racism and homophobia however, although the joke about Keynes was funny.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490792784 118768723,118806675,2017-03-29 13:08:08,">>118806492 Hey, if you don't want to ban gays or blacks from your community, go ahead. As long as you don't force anybody else to take them in, you can do as you please. >>118806472 >gets killed by another egoist ""Well, atleast I didn't fall for the NAP""",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490792888 118768723,118806864,2017-03-29 13:10:25,>>118806675,,Anonymous,hsm (101).png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1490793025 118768723,118806889,2017-03-29 13:10:42,">>118806452 >books People support authors all the time. Look at Patreon for Youtube. Don't need a state to do it. And about books specifically I've seen authors put out free books on their websites and then they receive donations that way because it gets them more exposure. IP for authors is really just for really popular writers to squeeze more cash from their fans.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490793042 118768723,118807042,2017-03-29 13:12:07,">>118806675 Exactly, I just think blacks and gays have more merit than he ascribes to them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490793127 118768723,118807094,2017-03-29 13:12:38,">>118806126 Hear me out. Why should the government have a (basically) monopoly on something? If they truly are the best at provoding it, they shouldn't be against opening up the market and letting private enterprizes offer education as well, without restrictions like themselves. You might say ""But what if those private schools teach nonsense and indoctrinate the children"". What stops the government from doing exactly that? If you'd open the market, the public schools wouldn't have an unfair advantage and many parents could decide themselves which school their children should attend. Once you reach this point, there is not much difference between a fair competition between public and private schools and only private schools. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, government funded indoctrination camps like in Germany that get called schools are a disaster.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490793158 118768723,118807101,2017-03-29 13:12:41,">>118806675 >""Well, atleast I didn't fall for the NAP"" Neither did the guy who killed you.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490793161 118768723,118807231,2017-03-29 13:14:04,">>118804627 >.... since everyone can in theory become part of the state apparatus and also parasitically draw income for him and his proteges' advantage >wars no longer form due to inheritance disputes or territorial objectives but rather as a matter of ""national pride""; conscription and forced military draft is instituted since the country is ""owned"" by everyone (whereas wars waged by kings resorted to hired mercenaries on a pay and were fought over clear territorial objectives) >wars also become total wars, since the country is financed by everyone and therefore killing everyone (genocide) and destroying all of the enemy's civilians private properties is encouraged (so-called ""collateral damage) >Democracy therefore promotes shortsightedness, egalitarianism, coveting, pandering, demagoguery, total warfare, the redistribution of wealth, and the elimination of all natural law in place of legislation (positive or man-made law) >""equality before the law"" becomes ""equality before free-entry into government"", since state officials are protected under public law (theft is ""taxes,"" enslavement is ""prison time,"" kidnapping is ""military draft"", spying is ""national security,"" property expropriation is ""eminent domain"", etc.) whereas we, the mere peasants, must conform to private law The solution: returning to the political time of pre-feudalism where people were free to seek out defense and justice services to anyone with a worthy reputation or that is part of the ""natural elite"" (people who are brave, wise, intelligent, tasteful, or possessing a combination thereof). Abolishing the state--a territorial monopolist of ultimate decision-making and taxation--would mean the abolition of positive law and a return to Natural Law; the abolition of the monopoly on violence and of the welfare state; and a return to ultimate patrician moral standards of conduct",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1490793244 118768723,118807357,2017-03-29 13:15:03,">>118806452 The industry of books selling would be organized a bit differently. The writer could sign a contract that entitles him to either a portion of the earnings of the book or a one-sum payment for disclosing the original text, which wouldn't really be owned by anyone. That contract could be multilateral so the author would get paid a higher sum coming from diverse publishers. All those details would be entirely up to him. What of course you wouldn't see is some author, be it a musician, a writer or whatever else producing just one or two things and living off of them for the next twenty years. They would be forced by the market to produce a higher volume of work and to appease their fans instead of the typical ""no new book/album this year lol"". >>118806492 The thing with this kind of societal organization is that it's really compatible with all kinds of people, whether you like his personal opinions on these topics or not. He simply acknowledges that many people are indeed racist and would of course exercise their right to discriminate.",,Anonymous,Spain 2025.png,dme0JYbDUWOnKUIXUEtlnQ==,ES,,1490793303 118768723,118807472,2017-03-29 13:16:17,"Reminder that homosexuality violates NAP and if you disagree with me, you're a fucking commie.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1490793377 118768723,118807476,2017-03-29 13:16:21,">>118807042 He generalizes a bit, yes, but at the core he advocates for a meritocracy. Think of him as the ultimate combination of stormfag and nigger=|=black person memer. He aknowledges that black people tend to be criminal more often, so he hates laws that try to elevste them into a higher position to force equality. If one proves to be wothy, though, it would be stupid to not let him into your community, since he means profit. If you still don't want him because of your ideology that'S your probelm, someone who isn't solely driven by his prejudice but rather interested by profit will surely appreciate him.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490793381 118768723,118807543,2017-03-29 13:16:54,">>118807472 out, shill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490793414 118768723,118807814,2017-03-29 13:19:27,">>118807472 How are things in rape town, my fellow ancap? Here in lolitown things are good, f a m. btw don't come or you will be machinegunned to death.",,Anonymous,inheritance.jpg,I/ylxYFfG6+DY3yInQLI5Q==,ES,,1490793567 118768723,118808606,2017-03-29 13:27:14,">>118807357 This, forced acceptance needs a government to begin with. You might not agree with people discriminating against others, but nobody should be forced to accept them against their will.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490794034 118768723,118809764,2017-03-29 13:37:35,bump,,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1490794655 118768723,118810083,2017-03-29 13:40:33,">>118807472 the NAP don't apply to insects",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490794833 118768723,118810190,2017-03-29 13:41:30,">>118810083 What about anzu?",,Anonymous,anzu.jpg,ViQImV2HlxKVqVUafYlSHA==,DE,,1490794890 118768723,118810396,2017-03-29 13:43:28,">>118810190 Honorary human. She can violate my NAP anytime she wants kek",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490795008 118768723,118810401,2017-03-29 13:43:32,"We have a reading list; but do we have a watching list? I've always had a few libertarian leanings and would be interested in learning more, and it's pretty comfy to have an interesting video open on the second monitor whilst I'm preoccupied.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490795012 118768723,118810611,2017-03-29 13:45:15,">>118810401 That's actually a good idea. Many good links are posted in threads, we should add some to the OP and pastebin in the future.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490795115 118768723,118810647,2017-03-29 13:45:30,"I thought we had a non aggression pact with the nazis. This happened over a week. Or is it shills putting on a dog and pony show. >I'm a libertarian ooo i ate you nazis >I'm a nazi oooo I hate you libertarians who are secret jews. Then I a normal person see this and am like this is totally fake. We are at war with the commies because they have violated the NAP on a multitude of occasions where as the nazis are not in violation. If the commies stopped attacking people in the street I wouldn't heed them no mind. I believe that shareblue is trying to feint that they are libertarians and create divides and infiltrate our group. Be wary of the stranger.",,Anonymous,1487283274759.png,nPDb0IVenvjAIRPrymjXTw==,CA,,1490795130 118768723,118811031,2017-03-29 13:48:55,">>118810647 NatSocs and Commies both want absolute control over what people's ideology is. They can't accept different viewpoints. That is one major issure that is fixed by Hoppe libertarian communities that allow people to set their own rules. (Non imperialistic) National Socialism is possible in Hoppe libertarianism, but not the other way around. Only if they accept that fact we can cooperate.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490795335 118768723,118811111,2017-03-29 13:49:42,">>118780580 Because you have a responsibility to your volk you selfish cuck piece of shit, a life lived only in the pursuit of personal wants is no life at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490795382 118768723,118811129,2017-03-29 13:49:51,">>118810647 Just because they're the weakest socialist group doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out for being retarded.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490795391 118768723,118811138,2017-03-29 13:49:56,,,Anonymous,1487720274047.jpg,srleeIa+o5KGoyBrHBXtNQ==,BR,,1490795396 118768723,118811269,2017-03-29 13:51:04,">>118810401 >>118810611 Tom Woods is an amazing spokesperson, I first came in contact with libertarianism watching his speeches at the Mises Institute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBCiMxuX9_g Here he is talking about how Rothbard changed his views on war. He says he used to be a neocon long ago and that reading Anatomy of the State changed his mind forever. Pretty much everything else of him or the Mises Institute is really great and very educating.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490795464 118768723,118811368,2017-03-29 13:52:01,">>118811111 Also, Respect my quints you meme fucks.",,Anonymous,1476920182199.jpg,hseNR1l8Ss8p9kRVMDH58Q==,US,,1490795521 118768723,118811438,2017-03-29 13:52:37,">>118811111 >Because you have a responsibility to your volk you selfish cuck piece of shit why,what for and for who ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490795557 118768723,118811449,2017-03-29 13:52:43,">>118810647 The NatSoc v Libertarian thing started last week. Before that we put our differences aside for the greater good. Now I think it's kikes trying to divide us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490795563 118768723,118811573,2017-03-29 13:53:53,">>118811111 >>118811368 >Wellbeing of your ""volk"" cannot be a personal want. >He fell for the ""evil rugged individualists"" meme Waste of digits.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490795633 118768723,118811608,2017-03-29 13:54:11,">>118811111 i don't owe anyone shit. People I care about are all that matter. Believe me, 90% of ethnic Germans would want me dead fro not being a leftie, why should I care about those. I care about my family and my friends. Forming a community to protect them is much more efficent than trying to help people that I hate and that hate me for muh race's sake.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490795651 118768723,118811662,2017-03-29 13:54:37,">>118810647 This. We have common enemies. Still, we should not be too tolerant to them. NatSocs are Socialists/Collectivists kek",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490795677 118768723,118811985,2017-03-29 13:57:29,">>118810401 I shill these all the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4 Comfy Friedman series for free market. Hoppe for AnCap shenanigans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEQmuaJeew Private courts, private protection. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c Obstacles for dismantling the state and solutions.",,Anonymous,Space doggo.gif,EFsX+ndhmx4CFsI98zSvKA==,SI,,1490795849 118768723,118812006,2017-03-29 13:57:41,">>118811031 Liberty is for not only people we agree with but, also for those we do not agree with. I don't agree with the nazis but, until they have their brownshirts running around beating and intimidating people or destabilizing a free government to install a totalitarian government, we can not or should do nothing. They have the right to exist so as long they understand and respect the right for us to exist.",,Anonymous,13467198_f520.jpg,pMV2otCRbLmSXEHNeoiDXg==,CA,,1490795861 118768723,118812142,2017-03-29 13:58:53,">>118811129 It's fine to challenge someone. However some of it seems to be staged.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490795933 118768723,118812322,2017-03-29 14:00:31,">>118812142 What do you mean?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490796031 118768723,118812347,2017-03-29 14:00:46,">>118812006 I agree, but since both already show the tendencies of being willing to violate the NAP we shouldn't be so foolish to believe we will never have a problem with them. We need to be ready to defend ourselves.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490796046 118768723,118812374,2017-03-29 14:01:02,">>118811449 I believe it's more antifa, but there are probably a couple jews in there.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490796062 118768723,118812525,2017-03-29 14:02:18,">>118811608 I'm a libtard but still belong to the 15% that would put up a fight to defend what's left of our fatherland. We Germans need a popular (inter)libertarian party that would restore social cohesion and limit Govt. Basically draining all the welfarewelfare parasites. Why do Hoppe's theories don't have more influence on our politics?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490796138 118768723,118812600,2017-03-29 14:02:52,">>118811438 Because the volk is a continuation of oneself and all your forefathers. It is all that we will have after we void this material plane. >>118811573 I am saying it is not a personal want, it is so much more. >>118811608 If you think your little commune is going to protect your family and friends from the many enemies that beset them on all sides, you are going to have a rude awakening. You need to help your people to rise up, and rediscover their own importance. Then they will admire you for your devotion to your family and people, not scorn you for it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490796172 118768723,118812706,2017-03-29 14:03:47,">>118811662 I don't have to respect what they say but, they can believe anything they want. They're fine so as long as they don't cross that line.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490796227 118768723,118812777,2017-03-29 14:04:22,">>118812347 Vigilance is always necessary.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490796262 118768723,118812859,2017-03-29 14:05:02,">>118811449 >>118812374 No, it's more like people realizing stormies worthless totalitarians that are serious about mass murder and other crazy shit and that it's a bad idea to associate with people like this, specially when you care about freedom. Teh shillz are just in your mind.",,Anonymous,stormfag_paranoia.jpg,mjhE6hO1bK1qeCcCr+0NqQ==,ES,,1490796302 118768723,118812955,2017-03-29 14:05:52,">>118812322 Keep an eye out.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490796352 118768723,118813125,2017-03-29 14:07:21,">>118812600 People hate conviction. I hate Germans for that, they are a stupid and easy to indocrtrinate people of sheep. I only care for the individual. You can call me a civic nationalism cuck for that, but I know I am not. I am only in favor of people I like, which I can have in Hoppe libertarianism. Live only one year in Germany and tell me you think differently, then we can talk. >>118812525 People honestly believe that everything that isn't mainstream is absolutely evil, that's why. Also, they like to feel superior by virtue signalling themselves to death.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490796441 118768723,118813294,2017-03-29 14:08:46,">>118769581 You can't even deny the holocaust in your country. The Jews have you brainwashed. Also I've noticed a lot of ""libertarians"" using CTR memes like ""stormweenie"" lately. The kikes are trying to subvert our movement by promoting your (((anarchist))) BS.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490796526 118768723,118813345,2017-03-29 14:09:09,">>118812600 >Because the volk is a continuation of oneself and all your forefathers. It is all that we will have after we void this material plane. nice psychic shit I will continue the existence of my race,but many people on my country don't deserve being part of it,they are parasites as much as the Jews and niggers, the only ""volk"" I would support are all the french who side with me fuck the rest",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490796549 118768723,118813434,2017-03-29 14:09:55,">>118812859 Nah, antifa is here as well as shareblue, and others.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490796595 118768723,118813642,2017-03-29 14:11:31,">>118813434 Unwarranted self importance.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490796691 118768723,118813804,2017-03-29 14:12:45,">>118813294 this. These threads are awesome but cmon OP don't go calling people stormweenies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490796765 118768723,118813833,2017-03-29 14:12:57,">>118813294 Denying the holocaust is a victimless crime. We are not advocating for banning victimless crimes, guess which ideologies are in favor of that. Also, stormfag has always been a derrogative term for over the top edgelords that most likely are stormfront plants. Stop trying to fit in that hard rebbit.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490796777 118768723,118813890,2017-03-29 14:13:28,"Can we have multiple daily threads for this? I miss when pol was right-libertarian. It's white man's utopia >strong borders >no welfare >small government >legal drugs yet a very drug-free society >hard on violent crime >hella gun rights >private healthcare with low costs >art majors don't go into massive debt over their own stupid decisions (I do care about other Americans regardless of how dumb they are, as long as they don't hurt anyone) >jobs like fuck >nuclear energy saves the environment >comcast BTFO",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490796808 118768723,118813897,2017-03-29 14:13:31,">>118813642 Whatever buddy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490796811 118768723,118814130,2017-03-29 14:15:21,">>118813804 Actually I retract that, it was another german",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490796921 118768723,118814577,2017-03-29 14:19:22,">>118813890 They are catching on lately. Many people call generals cancer, but I think this could revive /pol/'s debate culture. I've never had this refrshing discussions for a long time on here. Discussing with people who geuinely think different than you but still listen to your arguments has become something very rare.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490797162 118768723,118814785,2017-03-29 14:21:18,">>118813890 This is what I dream about. >wake up at night >realize living in a socialist shithole >sit in a corner and cry",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490797278 118768723,118814825,2017-03-29 14:21:38,">>118810647 NatSoc is ultimately against libertarianism, They see us as leftists and we see them as leftists. we have little incommon except for the racial realists and conservative libertarians like myself who can agree with Nazis on a few things recently I've watched a /nsg/ thread where they discussed how to bring us down or if they should ally with us. some of them larped as us in our thread to get us to admit to some sort of faggotry. their main goal seems to be getting us to pussy out on Pinochet and Helicopter Removal. Regardless of how you feel about that shit they want to cut our meme ammo supply, dont let them do it. As far as the battle ground of /pol/ is concerned I think its better to ally with them. I don't know how many of you keep track of the shill situation but I keep an eye out for em. I have suspicion that reddit lefties and libertarians are trying to use us to wage war on the nazis I'd rather keep nazis around instead of replacing them with whatever mix of lefties or left-libtards that come to fill their place. I see Nazis as the ""scarecrow"" of /pol/ a natural defense from cucky types from hanging around here and gaying the place up. My final word would have to be: Stick to your guns, if you hate Nazis fine. fuck em. laugh at them when they come and try to fuck with us. but be wary Nazi/Lefty/redditarian shills want to use us. dont let that happen. be paranoid.",,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1490797298 118768723,118814879,2017-03-29 14:22:06,">>118814577 These threads are redpilling people harder than redpill threads. Normies are coming in asking how stuff works, and shills get btfo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490797326 118768723,118815159,2017-03-29 14:24:39,">>118814825 >be paranoid. Nothing easier than that, that's my default mode (probably should be concerned about that) >>118814879 That's because unlike lefties, we actually can argue with facts instead of muh emotions.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490797479 118816253,118816253,2017-03-29 14:34:29,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - NOT SO FAST REBBID Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1490798069 118816253,118816383,2017-03-29 14:35:36,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490798136 118816253,118816497,2017-03-29 14:36:41,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490798201 118816253,118816632,2017-03-29 14:37:54,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490798274 118816253,118816757,2017-03-29 14:39:04,">>118816253 Articles by Murray Rothbard >Race! That Murray Book https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Big-Government Libertarians https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html >More on LewRockwell.com https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/murray-n-rothbard/",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490798344 118816253,118816988,2017-03-29 14:40:53,How do libertarians feel about nuclear power?,,Anonymous,huh?.png,ODVyzMfgrMSOdUlxYdDwKw==,US,,1490798453 118816253,118817140,2017-03-29 14:42:17,,,Anonymous,deaths by pigs.jpg,B6QJP5VjOVtU0O/rX092Sg==,NL,,1490798537 118816253,118817334,2017-03-29 14:44:09,Finally a general i can join,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490798649 118816253,118817490,2017-03-29 14:45:28,">>118816988 It is unsustainable in the long run in a free market. Once a place needs to be find where it can be stored for centuries, prices will skyrocket, Until then, people will gladly buy from nuclear energy corps, but once they have to raise prices to pay storement costs, people will switch to alternatives. because of that, renewable energy producers can lower their prices and become more effcient in the process, since they can allocate money into research of better technologies. I think environmental issues are overhyped and abused as voter manipulation by liberal politicians, but if you care about the environment for real, a free market is the best way of protecting it, not impsing nonsensical restrictions on some businesses while subsidizing others at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490798728 118816253,118817643,2017-03-29 14:46:39,">>>118817140 >Killed by governments >Killed by capitalism Chose one",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490798799 118816253,118817652,2017-03-29 14:46:44,">>118817140 >1,635,271,26 >a billion communists everyone",,Anonymous,exhausted.jpg,sTNmpaivzjRwT28DpA4Aww==,US,,1490798804 118816253,118817667,2017-03-29 14:46:51,">>118813804 Listen it's like that: I have a personal disdain for Nazi-ideology >inb4 muh german indoctrination That does not mean that I do not tolerate you - I don't agree, largely, but it's an opinion nontheless and I have to respect that. I do, but only up to the point where you (as in people that claim to be natsocs) come around and start to call shit on me. I call people stormweeny when they come here and instead of adding to the discussion, just randomly post some stupid and delusional shit or spout that we're some johnson-type libertarian faggots. That's when they violate the NAP and that's when I, personally, retaliate. >>118817140 Your pic is still random numbers that have nothing to do with capitalism.",,Anonymous,1490736157031.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,DE,,1490798811 118816253,118818032,2017-03-29 14:49:36,">>118817490 >if you care about the environment for real, a free market is the best way of protecting it Sure it is........",,Anonymous,1490730961952.gif,E4mAJhARcqr6jBrQkKi8oQ==,US,,1490798976 118816253,118818083,2017-03-29 14:50:05,">>118816253 Add to top links / pastebin: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490799005 118816253,118818146,2017-03-29 14:50:37,">>118817334 Glad you've found your way. Go ahead if you have a question, ideas or anything related.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490799037 118816253,118818258,2017-03-29 14:51:34,">>118817490 The main impediment to nuclear energy is its storage? >http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspects/economics-of-nuclear-power.aspx",,Anonymous,bystander.png,ayXmfNFAyGlxdGfcPdta+A==,US,,1490799094 118816253,118818443,2017-03-29 14:53:32,">>118818032 Look, here in Germany, politicians forced the market to adapt to their will. They ruled that all nucler plants have to be closed withing a certein time because muh fukushima. Many jobs were lost, while the coal industry still gets subsidies. While a political caste exists, this will always be the case, since lobbying is a thing. If you let the free market run its course, it will certainly be a slow process, but over time the most sustainable energy source will come out on top. Throwing money at wind energy that is lacking the technology to ever reach a level of acceptable energy output won't help. If people want to change to another, greener energy source in a free market, they eventually will.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490799212 118816253,118818484,2017-03-29 14:53:54,">>118817490 To add to this, oil is unsustainable and we always get ""lucky"" and find more at the last minute (gulf war, fracking, etc)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490799234 118816253,118818519,2017-03-29 14:54:12,">>118816253 /lrg/ master race. Fuck commies, Nazis, the kikes, and left-""libertarians""",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,US,,1490799252 118816253,118818770,2017-03-29 14:56:11,">>118818484 That's why it would die out on a free market aswell. Without subsidies it wouldn't be profitable enough for investors. >>118818258 If they make storage easy, save and cheap, they could get to the top very easily. That'S the benefit of a free market, if they have to compete, they are encouraged to innovate so they can keep up.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490799371 118816253,118818936,2017-03-29 14:57:37,">>118818258 Pretty sure he means the storage of nuclear waste",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490799457 118816253,118819025,2017-03-29 14:58:16,">>118818936 Yep, I fucked up on the wording.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490799496 118816253,118819252,2017-03-29 15:00:06,">>118818936 Would sending nuclear waste to the sun be zero-sum?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490799606 118816253,118819259,2017-03-29 15:00:11,">>118816253 taxation is NOT theft debate me, tards",,Anonymous,1490678571779.png,ETCwDCyKUD6FAeHILYrlYQ==,US,,1490799611 118816253,118819350,2017-03-29 15:00:53,">>118818443 >If you let the free market run its course, it will certainly be a slow process, but over time the most sustainable energy source will come out on top. In the long-term sustainables will always win out purely because the ingredients required to operate other forms of electrical generation will simply run out. There is only so much oil, and only so much coal, and only so much uranium. Nobody knows when these things will run out, but they eventually will. The government promotes renewables because it wants to have alternative forms of energy in place BEFORE those things run out, rather than trying to throw something together after it is already too late.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490799653 118816253,118819444,2017-03-29 15:01:43,">>118816253 > working for the Jew is /pol/ now Yeah buddy! I'm sure that everybody wins with no roads or law! We will all have slave lolis! Don't ever forget that!",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1490799703 118816253,118819593,2017-03-29 15:03:03,">>118819259 non-argument, nothing to debate. Make an argument for your statement shill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490799783 118816253,118819619,2017-03-29 15:03:14,">>118819252 Nah, you wouldn't imagine how expensive launching a rocket is. It is destined to become non profitable in the future, unless someone fixes the problem of storage, but since the market still gets manipulated there is no incentive to find this solution.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490799794 118816253,118819661,2017-03-29 15:03:36,">>118816253 Enjoy going down the exact same road the United States went down. Enjoy your inevitable centralization of wealth and power and transition into a corporatocracy. Absence of power is a vaccuum which needs to be filled, always remember that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490799816 118816253,118819964,2017-03-29 15:05:59,what is your opinion on Primitive Libertarianism / anti-tech branch of ancaps?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490799959 118816253,118819999,2017-03-29 15:06:11,">>118819444 The community or property owner pays for roads, it's not something the state needs to exist for",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490799971 118816253,118820018,2017-03-29 15:06:21,">>118819259 >not an argument But I'll still tell you: The state collects taxes - which are 100% unvoluntarily raised costs which are not just unavoidable but you also get threatened with violence and repression when you want to avoid em. Therefore collecting tax is theft.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490799981 118816253,118820087,2017-03-29 15:06:51,">>118819350 But forcing them on the market while these old energy sources are still available is creating a lot of chaos. Also, these resources won't be gone over night, they'll gradually become more and more expensive the rarer they get, so a natural transition to the now cheaper alternatives will take place. On an economic level, this would be the better way. If you're arguing on a ecological standpoint, that is another thing, but I still believe another 100 years won't make a difference. Climate change is a thing imo, but it is waaaay less of an immediate threat as it is made out to be and definetely not big enough to sacrifice one'S economy over it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490800011 118816253,118820288,2017-03-29 15:08:29,">>118819661 The Unite States have never been a voluntary society.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490800109 118816253,118820319,2017-03-29 15:08:41,">>118819964 I don't know how that would function. Anarcho capitalism is inherently future oriented and rewards innovation. But I think you could live like caveman on your property if that'S your thing. Just don't try to throw rocks at people walking by for wearing clothes.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490800121 118816253,118820542,2017-03-29 15:10:31,">>118819964 I personally don't like it too much, because in my opinion it prevents progress (as in real progress, not the shit liberals promote) but if we have an ancap society, you're free to live as anti-tech/primitive or whatever else libertarian or ancap on your property as long as you're not violating the NAP",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490800231 118816253,118820740,2017-03-29 15:12:19,">>118819593 well i'll provide a counter to your ""taxation is theft"" argument. taxation being theft would imply ownership. and ownership does not happen in a vacuum. we humans have to decide who owns what. without a government, then there is no ""ownership"" by definition. so when you're being taxed you're not being stolen from, you're actually being allowed to keep stuff and the government says it will protect you and ""your"" stuff. that means that you could morally be taxed at 100% but it wouldn't be practical to do so. it's better for the government to take a little bit like 10% off the top many times than to take everything just once. so my argument is that ""taxation is theft"" is based on the wrong foundation.",,Anonymous,1490155485993.png,pTUXJPas35aEdCBWmxytYg==,US,,1490800339 118816253,118820774,2017-03-29 15:12:40,">>118816253 >discussion of anarchocapitalism Can we agree they are retards?",,Anonymous,IMG_6089.png,dxwFEQ0xuyVCr1UEfqetrQ==,US,,1490800360 118816253,118820812,2017-03-29 15:12:55,">>118820319 >Just don't try to throw rocks at people walking by for wearing clothes. kek'd",,Anonymous,1490713534644.jpg,XnweBGBJLV0zaU1eNKLVyw==,DE,,1490800375 118816253,118820849,2017-03-29 15:13:17,">>118820288 Oh so you're a pure libertarian? Well then you're just as dumb as a pure communist. Enjoy your utopic theorycraft and speculation which would NEVER transpire in the real world, for a thousand different reasons (the first of which is genetics, which you would need natsoc to conditions genetics).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490800397 118816253,118820899,2017-03-29 15:13:45,">>118819259 i would like to cancel my voluntary subscription to foreign aid, please",,Anonymous,1466745567456.jpg,/MeLKwCSOQERKGYpCaOctw==,US,,1490800425 118816253,118820912,2017-03-29 15:13:51,">>118819999 It's perfectly legal to build your own roads right now. There aren't any laws against it. The government isn't preventing anybody from going out and making their own private roads. It just doesn't happen because it wouldn't be profitable at all unless you're planning to put in a toll booth every 10 miles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490800431 118816253,118820924,2017-03-29 15:13:58,">>118819999 Check'd",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490800438 118816253,118821059,2017-03-29 15:15:06,">>118820319 >>118820542 sounds good, I wouldn't call it caveman, but definitely subsistence farming and hunter / gatherer as main source of food. I dunno, I think the Varg-bug bit me, AnarchoPrimitivist + Ethnotribalist. sadly this is all utopian talk.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490800506 118816253,118821183,2017-03-29 15:16:13,">>118820912 It isn't profitable because the government owns a monopoly on building them, like it does on healhcare (at least here in yuroop). Without government interference you don't have monopolies because of the naturally ocurring competition.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490800573 118816253,118821188,2017-03-29 15:16:15,">>118820740 >taxation being theft would imply ownership. and ownership does not happen in a vacuum. It does do. Ownership over one's physical body and the objects he alters from a state of nature is a priori. >without a government, then there is no ""ownership"" by definition. Yes there is, perhaps not enforcement but there is. >that means that you could morally be taxed at 100% but it wouldn't be practical to do so. it's better for the government to take a little bit like 10% off the top many times than to take everything just once. Now you're being a filthy utilitarian.",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1490800575 118816253,118821288,2017-03-29 15:17:05,">>118820740 Ownership is based on indirect and direct control. You indirectly control another person's actions. You directly control your body. Your basic premise is already wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490800625 118816253,118821418,2017-03-29 15:18:07,">>118820018 i know that argument too. but that argument is emergent of ""taxation is theft"" you have to look at the foundation to see a counter. taxation being theft would imply ownership. and ownership does not happen in a vacuum. we humans have to decide who owns what. without a government, then there is no ""ownership"" by definition. so when you're being taxed you're not being stolen from, you're actually being allowed to keep stuff and the government says it will protect you and ""your"" stuff. that means that you could morally be taxed at 100% but it wouldn't be practical to do so. it's better for the government to take a little bit like 10% off the top many times than to take everything just once. so my argument is that ""taxation is theft"" is based on the wrong foundation; you assume that you ""own"" your stuff/life/time in a vacuum when you do NOT. those rights are government granted, not god-granted. >>118820899 you don't own your stuff/money/life/time.",,Anonymous,1488503051090.jpg,LTkZqdkEZcUf1RVlFWnIaw==,US,,1490800687 118816253,118821487,2017-03-29 15:18:39,">>118821059 Democracy was once called utopism, too. Enough people can always make a change, be it for the better or for the worse. You should be able to live your comfy Varg life without the f´government forcing you to be squeezed dry of your property.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490800719 118816253,118821574,2017-03-29 15:19:22,">>118820740 Governments should be small because it's efficient. Private property should be protected because it's efficient I fucking hate the ""muh taxation is theft"" argument. It's no different than any religious doctrine",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490800762 118816253,118821603,2017-03-29 15:19:38,">>118820740 So without the government you own nothing?!???! >your lawhik is foolish",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490800778 118816253,118821609,2017-03-29 15:19:40,">>118821183 >the government owns a monopoly on building them No, it doesn't. There are no laws to my knowledge that would prevent a person or corporation from buying up land and building roads on it. It just doesn't happen because it wouldn't be a profitable activity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490800780 118816253,118821628,2017-03-29 15:19:47,">>118820740 The very premise of ancapism is the property right and that every is free and does things 100% voluntarily. Your body is a given property. You own it, therefore everything you do with it (e.g. work, create) is your property as well. Now you have an agreement with the employer that your work benefits him with the product and he agrees to pay compensation for that. Up to here everything is voluntary. Now comes the state. You didn't vote for tax, you didn't agree on it, you signed nothing. The state collects tax. You're forced to pay .... etc. (see post above). Tax are inherently immoral, theft.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490800787 118816253,118821705,2017-03-29 15:20:27,">>118816253 Physical removal. Love these threads",,Anonymous,1490387505340.jpg,FlSH1OHZ0nnUAsD2+dLcUg==,US,,1490800827 118816253,118821785,2017-03-29 15:21:16,">>118821609 There are no laws, but the government is able to allocate taxes it collects into its own procects, while not giving other businesses the same starting point. If nobody had a unfair head start, there wouldn't be a monopoly, but since the government can fund itself, nobody is able to pose a serious threat if they tried to compete.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490800876 118816253,118821924,2017-03-29 15:22:26,">>118817490 http://thorconpower.com/docs/ct_yankee.pdf http://thorconpower.com/docs/ct_yankee.pdf http://thorconpower.com/docs/ct_yankee.pdf Nuclear waste is a n o n i s s u e.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490800946 118816253,118822044,2017-03-29 15:23:30,">>118820849 I'm ancap. What exactly is your argument beside advocating for a collectivist superstate system ?",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1490801010 118816253,118822229,2017-03-29 15:25:08,">>118821574 This person is correct. >>118821628 Modern society cannot function without taxation, and something required for the continuation of society cannot be immoral. >>118821785 There is nothing preventing a company from paving their own roads and setting up toll booths to maintain it and turn a profit from it. They just don't do this because it wouldn't be profitable at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490801108 118816253,118822395,2017-03-29 15:26:44,">>118820774 Ancoms ? Yes they're retarded. Their ideology is contradictory to the bone.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490801204 118816253,118822445,2017-03-29 15:27:06,"I thought I was lolbertarian but I get pic related. The test has some questions that are dumb though like do you agree that having a one party system makes making decisions without opposition easier. Yeah, sure it does, but I don't agree that's a good thing. Same with the question about how high the rich are taxed. I wanna have a meme ideology, what am I doing wrong?",,Anonymous,Political_chart.svg.png,SxL9cgrmMKhv7S3ucxp+CQ==,DE,,1490801226 118816253,118822503,2017-03-29 15:27:38,">>118822229 >There is nothing preventing a company from paving their own roads and setting up toll booths to maintain it and turn a profit from it. > it wouldn't be profitable at all. That's my whole point. It can't and never will be profitable for anyone to try to compete against the government, because they have always more resources than the competitor, thus they don't need innvoation, cheaper prices or better products to compete. That's the core of our ideology, we think that if we'd stop that, products would be cheaper and better, since others could try to outdo oneanother for profit.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490801258 118816253,118822723,2017-03-29 15:29:33,">>118821188 can you explain how ""ownership"" can exist in a vacuum? you said it yourself ""enforcement"" doesn't exist in a vacuum. what's the difference between ""enforcement"" and ""ownership?"" do you really ""own"" the hat on your head if i can come up to you and take it? in a vacuum, the hat would remain on ""my"" head which you could come try and take. >>118821288 >You directly control your body does a baby control its own body? >>118821574 this guy gets it. a small tax/government is efficient but there is nothing immoral about huge taxes/governments other than their practicality. do you have any books who agree with us? because i'm still a libertarian. >>118821603 if i take the hat off ""your"" head, how are you gonna take it back?",,Anonymous,1463036992751.jpg,T2qEeJP5M7GAnok9vYyFeA==,US,,1490801373 118816253,118822804,2017-03-29 15:30:06,">>118821487 True enough Hans. I would love to keep my family and closest allies near. I kinda feel like it is a micro-scale of futurism AnCaps. The tribe would support themselves, with no communal concept. However if someone needs a roof-patched or a few rounds to hunt for the month. No cheifdom, no hierarchy outside of families. If someone breaks the NAP against our tribe, would you use your blackhawks to defend our micro society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490801406 118816253,118822921,2017-03-29 15:31:08,">>118822723 I'm not really down to discussing this right now but it has to do with argumentation ethics and performative contradictions. If you want a link and look it up for yourself I can provide it. But it would take me a fuckton of time to explain it to you here.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490801468 118816253,118822940,2017-03-29 15:31:19,">>118822445 So, let's do a direct version: 1. Do you think private businesses are better suited for providing products and services than the government 2. Do you think that victimless crimes like drug consumption that only harms the user should be legal? 3. Is ""The best government is that which governs not at all"" a viable statement for you? If you answered those with yes you are part of our autism club.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490801479 118816253,118823002,2017-03-29 15:31:53,">>118822445 dude i'm a ""primitive"" anarchist and i got this this test is broken and the questions are terrible",,Anonymous,chart.png,hCa0drYCRG53qca0a6/86Q==,US,,1490801513 118816253,118823219,2017-03-29 15:33:42,">>118822044 I already posted it >Enjoy your inevitable centralization of wealth and power and transition into a corporatocracy. Absence of power is a vacuum which needs to be filled, always remember that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490801622 118816253,118823247,2017-03-29 15:33:55,">>118822804 It is in our mutual interest to stop forces that seek to grow in power. We'd have to ensure that trying to expand is something that is non profitable. You could hide a McNuke in one of your mud huts for when shit hits the fan.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490801635 118816253,118823269,2017-03-29 15:34:14,">>118822229 >Modern society cannot function without taxation, and something required for the continuation of society cannot be immoral. I suggest you read the books and papers posted above. Start with Rothbard's ""Anatomy of the State"" - only 62, big font :: readable in an hour or two - and go ahead with Hoppe's ""Democracy - The God that Failed"". That's all the foundation you need to go ahead if you want to know more. If not, you've done something for your education or at least saw a different point of view.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490801654 118816253,118823328,2017-03-29 15:34:47,">>118823002 This is better: http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php The one you did is full of false equivalencies and was clearly written by a leftist fag.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490801687 118816253,118823354,2017-03-29 15:34:58,i like mcdonalds,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490801698 118816253,118823489,2017-03-29 15:36:11,">>118822921 just face it, kid. ""taxation is theft"" is religious dogma. there are far better arguments for libertarianism. ownership does NOT exist in vacuum. but ownership rights and low taxes/gov provide for a more successful society.",,Anonymous,1490678645068.jpg,bqOpUonB9T2WYdAkdjyk9A==,US,,1490801771 118816253,118823777,2017-03-29 15:38:37,">>118823354 >non-Germans will never know of the glory that is Nordsee I almost pity you.",,Anonymous,nordsee-seafood-restaurant-food-display-germany-E9TPJ2.jpg,YDQQcND5H83PwUWwiJX/VA==,DE,,1490801917 118816253,118823789,2017-03-29 15:38:42,">>118822940 Those are all things I agree with, yes. My only stipulation is that there are a small number of institutions, like schools or the police, that are better left to the government.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490801922 118816253,118823835,2017-03-29 15:39:07,">>118823328 Thanks man! >>118823247 When we run a caravan of pelts for your bear skin rug collection - just give me a SAM system for one of my daughters. Shit sounds fair, she'll birth many good warriors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490801947 118816253,118823968,2017-03-29 15:40:13,">>118823777 >halal no thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490802013 118816253,118824018,2017-03-29 15:40:38,">>118823777 Wow pre made sandwiches, sooo tasty mmm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490802038 118816253,118824099,2017-03-29 15:41:14,">>118823789 That puts you into the Minarchist corner. You'll definetely will find a home in these threads if you are looking for one, but remember, minarchism can't be democratic, democracy is too inconstant to maintain a libertarian order.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490802074 118816253,118824323,2017-03-29 15:43:09,">>118823968 >>118824018 >being this jelly >>118823835 Capitalism has never been more fun.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490802189 118816253,118824538,2017-03-29 15:44:53,">>118823328 how'd i do",,Anonymous,tmp_8279-Screenshot_20170329-154420-1357617373.png,m3DeWPpftso2DvwM0xkdiQ==,US,,1490802293 118816253,118824567,2017-03-29 15:45:03,">>118823835 just finished that test and got this You are a: Conservative Libertarian Total-Isolationist Nativist Moderate Collectivism score: -50% Authoritarianism score: -67% Internationalism score: -100% Tribalism score: 67% Liberalism score: 0% SOUNDS WAYYYYY MORE ACCURATE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490802303 118816253,118824729,2017-03-29 15:46:12,">>118823328 clicked the wrong post",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490802372 118816253,118825238,2017-03-29 15:50:22,">>118823328 You are a: Objectivist Anarchist Total-Isolationist Nationalist Liberal Collectivism score: -83% Authoritarianism score: -100% Internationalism score: -100% Tribalism score: 33% Liberalism score: 17% R8 me lads",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490802622 118816253,118825296,2017-03-29 15:50:52,">>118823328 ....d-did I do it right ? You are a: Objectivist Anarchist Total-Isolationist Nativist Traditionalist Collectivism score: -83% Authoritarianism score: -83% Internationalism score: -100% Tribalism score: 67% Liberalism score: -17%",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490802652 118816253,118825682,2017-03-29 15:53:59,">>118823328 This test is surprisingly accurate",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490802839 118816253,118825701,2017-03-29 15:54:06,freedom bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490802846 118816253,118825806,2017-03-29 15:54:56,">>118825238 >>118825296 Objectivist / 10",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490802896 118816253,118826100,2017-03-29 15:57:19,">>118824538 >>118824567 >>118825238 >>118825296 Yes you all did good.",,Anonymous,autism 2017.png,FCBxzeB66opaAHkT3m5jxg==,PT,,1490803039 118816253,118826660,2017-03-29 16:01:55,">>118822445 >>118823328 >>118824099 Yeah, that seems about right. >democracy is too inconstant to maintain a libertarian order What does that mean?",,Anonymous,Screenshot from 2017-03-29 23-00-56.png,WPh7wWfUN427P1szxhoFUg==,DE,,1490803315 118816253,118826701,2017-03-29 16:02:17,">>118823328 You are a: Objectivist Anarchist Total-Isolationist Nationalist Liberal Collectivism score: -100% Authoritarianism score: -100% Internationalism score: -100% Tribalism score: 33% Liberalism score: 33%",,Anonymous,IMG_0638.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,DE,,1490803337 118816253,118826804,2017-03-29 16:03:02,"Back to topic: More questions, baits, sneks, anything ? Time for some recreational nukes",,Anonymous,1490811698136.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,DE,,1490803382 118816253,118826862,2017-03-29 16:03:28,">>118826660 democracy has always been thought of as a soft variant of communism / socialism. It wasn't until the past couple hundred years that it was thought of as liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490803408 118816253,118826884,2017-03-29 16:03:38,">>118826804 snek",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1490224889744.jpg,gJ/g7mQwHDM+ZN0m1wpvaQ==,DE,,1490803418 118816253,118827014,2017-03-29 16:04:40,">>118826100 thanks portugal! Lookin' good yourself! >>118826804 why do communists feel like they own the anarchist movement?",,Anonymous,good numbers.jpg,4A+ygSNUPAvJ1mXPZgDagA==,US,,1490803480 118816253,118827229,2017-03-29 16:06:27,">>118826660 Not only can people just vote away individual liberties becuae they get persuaded to do so, politicians are bound to seek the path to most power, since they can get reelected, thus they will try to get their claws into as much money and influence as possible, at the expense of the populace. A system whichs framework couldn't be voted away would be (at least for a way longer time period) consistently libertarian in nature.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490803587 118816253,118827241,2017-03-29 16:06:35,">>118826804 recreational nuke",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1489700721521.jpg,tvKv0no9/a6+XBeHyHKi9Q==,DE,,1490803595 118816253,118827350,2017-03-29 16:07:26,">>118827014 Because communists feel like they own the whooooooooooooooole of everything. This includes bodies, thoughts and foreign-accumulated money.",,Anonymous,1490721588544.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,DE,,1490803646 118816253,118827395,2017-03-29 16:07:46,">>118826804 >not able to live life as humble nuke sales man Feels bad man.",,Anonymous,term.png,W6w4z2BPOeB9Drr02avlbw==,DE,,1490803666 118816253,118827466,2017-03-29 16:08:19,">>118826660 >>118827229 also, democracy leads to short sighted decision making rather than long term. Politicians only care about the here and now. Like how you don't particularly care about the property you rent as much as the one you own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490803699 118816253,118827546,2017-03-29 16:08:59,">>118827229 Basically >what you don't reap now, you can't reap later",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490803739 118816253,118827601,2017-03-29 16:09:27,">>118827466 Exactly, Merkelesque opportunism is one of democracies most dangerous shortcomings.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490803767 118816253,118827692,2017-03-29 16:10:11,">>118827601 Like, has no one watched legend of the galactic heroes?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490803811 118816253,118827812,2017-03-29 16:11:12,">>118827692 Can you give me a speedy synopsis?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490803872 118816253,118827837,2017-03-29 16:11:27,bumping with snek,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1489703025607.jpg,vLTp3OVamDw7ScTY5V5hIw==,DE,,1490803887 118816253,118827887,2017-03-29 16:11:48,">>118817140 >Hurricane Katrina Stopped reading right there, shit b8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490803908 118816253,118827894,2017-03-29 16:11:49,">>118819259 If taxation is theft then so is wage labor and rent.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490803909 118816253,118827908,2017-03-29 16:11:55,">>118826701 Amazing.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490803915 118816253,118827937,2017-03-29 16:12:08,>>118816253,,Anonymous,C73hNJPVMAIjtJm.jpg,ulQzH11GpNA2NJhffnHkYw==,CA,,1490803928 118816253,118828024,2017-03-29 16:12:57,">>118816253 Hi, I'm interested in your ideology and I have questions for you. How can a democratic state turn into a libertarian one ? And how people will react if it happen ? Is it possible for the majority to adhere without being forced by something of someone (Like a civil war, dissolution of the parliament etc...) ? Is it possible to be nationalist and libertarian ?",,Sage,1490212313227.png,0Tfvm9F3zvGOTsuZd8H9yA==,FR,,1490803977 118816253,118828100,2017-03-29 16:13:40,">>118827894 Wage (,) labor and rent are all agreed upon voluntarily. Your argument is invalid.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490804020 118816253,118828112,2017-03-29 16:13:47,">>118827908 thank you",,Anonymous,photo.jpg,SJgpYg32W8gYlMCrYiDKbg==,DE,,1490804027 118816253,118828142,2017-03-29 16:14:01,">>118827812 Two galactic empires, one democratic and corrupted by politicians, one theocractic and corrupted by despotism. Two tacticians emerge on both sides and fight for their ideologies. It raises the question which is the better ideology, and the answer being ""we don't know the solution"". It's based on a german novel series",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490804041 118816253,118828332,2017-03-29 16:15:30,">>118827894 wage labour and rents are voluntary contracts if you don't pay taxes, force would be initiated against you",,Anonymous,hhh_physical_removal.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,DE,,1490804130 118816253,118828345,2017-03-29 16:15:39,">>118828142 >>118827812 I also forgot to mention there's a neutral intermediate capitalistic/ancap empire sitting in between that trades with both.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490804139 118816253,118828354,2017-03-29 16:15:44,">>118825806 ok",,Anonymous,Capture.png,mH2ksKJNxSFvwZUJ8o7PLQ==,GB,,1490804144 118816253,118828495,2017-03-29 16:16:52,">>118828024 Here's my result",,Sage,firefox_2017-03-29_22-16-08.png,XB0z5xC+ZLFdiEX0BKI5aw==,FR,,1490804212 118816253,118828543,2017-03-29 16:17:14,">>118828100 >work for wages or become destitute Yeah, real voluntary. Y'all need mutualism, or left-wing market anarchism. Real free markets have worker control. Even Rothbard had his stint on the left in the 60's.",,Anonymous,11243463456.jpg,EsxBCtMOelrgwrUWJjKRgQ==,GB,,1490804234 118816253,118828583,2017-03-29 16:17:30,"I have a question for all you guys: do you think there is a correlation between the de-civilization Hoppe talks about and the arts? By arts I mean music, photography, architecture, painting, etc. Maybe I'm trying to justify my own biases in favor of tradition, but I was looking at the best pictures from those international photography contests and they're all so.... Ugly. They all focus on death, war, famine, destruction, etc. They capture ugly people (diseased Africans and old, almost corpse-like people) in ugly scenarios (war-torn countries, jungles, primitive habitats, etc.). Could this de-civilizing effect that democracy brings about ingrain itself so deep into people's subconscious that they start to appreciate rotten ""art"" and ""culture"" in detriment of pre-democratic art? Here's an example: http://observador.pt/2017/03/28/101-das-melhores-fotografias-do-mundo-segundo-a-sony-uma-e-portuguesa/ Click the photo gallery and watch some of the photos. While we see some truly breathtaking and clever photography here and there, the majority is about capturing ugliness instead of beauty. Could it have something to do with body positivity and egalitarianism?",,Anonymous,nick land.gif,9QNJHrDShg7/A4cFQOH8rw==,PT,,1490804250 118816253,118828587,2017-03-29 16:17:32,">>118827692 Currently watching it with a friend, we are at episode 13 or something.",,Sage,,,FR,,1490804252 118816253,118828761,2017-03-29 16:19:07,">>118828024 Last question first: Yes. You can be a nationalist, even a communist. Basis is that you do that on your own property and you do not behave ""expansionist"", meaning you don't enforce your ideology/way of living upon others. Because if you do that, you're violating the NAP and might expect recreational nukes in retaliation. How to reach an ancapist society ? That's not an easy question. And 100 people would prolly try to achieve in 100 different ways. I, personally, think that if we can manage to implement a minarchistic order - meaning government super small, only enough power to preserve ""personal"" rights - we can set the foundation. This is especially important, because the hardest limit to cross will be to overcome the mindset of the people which utterly rely on the welfare state - conscious or unconscious.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490804347 118816253,118828812,2017-03-29 16:19:31,">>118828587 I was ""libertarian"" until I watched LoTGH and got extremely confused.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490804371 118816253,118828885,2017-03-29 16:20:06,">>118828543 Sounds like my ""primitive"" anarchism, in the tribe there wouldn't be money, and only help if one needed it, and not based on class in the tribe. and any transactions done with any other tribe or nation would be through goods, not metals or currency. >>118828354 bretty good friendo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490804406 118816253,118829069,2017-03-29 16:21:37,">>118828142 Sounds beddy interesting >>118828024 >How can a democratic state turn into a libertarian one ? We still are figuring this out. Common tactics include vehement secessionism into smaller and smaller territories, counter economics in order to weaken the government and generally supporting anti establishment and anti status quo movements. >And how people will react if it happen ? I've made the experience that people are surprisingly open to libertarian ideas, especially workers that got disappointed by the socialists that betrayed them for the sake of tolerance. Lower taxes are seens as more desirable than high gibs, we need to build on this sentiment. >Is it possible for the majority to adhere without being forced by something of someone (Like a civil war, dissolution of the parliament etc...) ? If the process is slow enough for people to accomodate I don't think they'd be opposed to regaining rights they've been robbed of. >Is it possible to be nationalist and libertarian ? Definetely, both in a minarchist aswell as in a Hoppe libertarian society immigration restrictions are justifyable. It's a bit of an explanation, so I request the Hoppe rundown pic on free travel not going hand in hand with free trade, since I haven't saved it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490804497 118816253,118829111,2017-03-29 16:21:55,">>118828543 You can choose not to work, not to live in a house or apartment and you and choose to work without payment and nothing's gonna stop you. That's voluntary. You can also choose your wage in a certain frame if the employer agrees upon negotiating about it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490804515 118816253,118829295,2017-03-29 16:23:29,">>118828332 This is one of the major problems with ancap theory. Working for wages and having to pay rent to use/occupy something are situations that only come about because of private property (absentee ownership not based upon occupancy and use). People only work for wages because they either have no access to their own means of production and they have no way to produce the bare necessities of life (food, shelter, etc) because of capitalist property rights.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490804609 118816253,118829691,2017-03-29 16:26:47,">>118829069 I think I'm wrong about it being a german novel, it's just got a lot of german undertones. The previous ruler of the theocracy was pretty much literally hitler, and the democratic society is essentially america after 1000 years. You should give the movies a try and then start the series if you enjoy them: 1st: https://myanimelist.net/anime/3014/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu__Waga_Yuku_wa_Hoshi_no_Taikai https://www.masterani.me/anime/info/2188-ginga-eiyuu-densetsu-waga-yuku-wa-hoshi-no-taikai 2nd: https://myanimelist.net/anime/3016/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu__Arata_Naru_Tatakai_no_Overture 3rd: https://myanimelist.net/anime/820/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490804807 118816253,118829822,2017-03-29 16:27:46,">>118828583 I think people just lose their sense for aesthetic. I've read expressionist literatur describing a town spiraling into war, demise and even a poem about a bloated corpse from which a flower grows, yet they all have been disturbingly beutiful in their own way. You can focus on anything if you know how to express yourself. nowadays people don't need to think about anything anymore, since they get praised by people who will interprete everything into a blank piece of paper.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490804866 118816253,118829937,2017-03-29 16:28:41,">>118829691 Thanks for that, will try to watch when I have the time.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490804921 118816253,118830076,2017-03-29 16:29:46,">>118828583 I think it might actually be the case. Because of the simple fact that looking at violence (on pics or in movies) you tolerance just increases every time. Up to the point where some people need gore and shit. But it's also a matter of getting used to. Artists often tend to say shit like ""and then suddenly I recognized the beauty in it"". And art-fans are most often pretentious people. When the artist tells them it's beautiful, then it is, no matter if it's shit in a glass or a starving kid. Last but not least, it creates indifference for the same reason as above. So yeah, I definitely think that could be related up to certain point.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490804986 118816253,118830120,2017-03-29 16:30:12,">>118829937 Yup, it's generally considered the best anime of all time. It doesn't seem to be disputed as anything but. It can be extremely slow just make sure you DON'T watch the ""next time on ..."" at the end of the tv episodes. They spoil the next episode",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805012 118816253,118830545,2017-03-29 16:33:29,">>118829822 >>118830076 Mmm... Interesting. I think the relation might be the ""egalitarianism"" that democracy promotes: why make ultra-realistic depictions of the world when I can just prop up a canvas with a black dot on it and people will recognize me for my ""avant-garde"" and ""bold"" style?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490805209 118816253,118830726,2017-03-29 16:34:52,">>118828583 Easy answer? Yes. The more difficult perhaps to answer is when does the shift happen in democratic states, occur? I usually see it happen at the end of a great height, or relative peak of democratic performance. A look at all great democracies shows an initial spark of arts, creativity, and beauty that fades, and crumbles as easily as democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805292 118816253,118830828,2017-03-29 16:35:46,">>118829428 Have you guys been spreading ancap memes lately? Keep it going",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805346 118816253,118830877,2017-03-29 16:36:13,">>118830120 does it have a tooth brushing scene?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805373 118816253,118830909,2017-03-29 16:36:27,"How about putting videos in the OP. Shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2_dPLBlvDI",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490805387 118816253,118831030,2017-03-29 16:37:33,">>118830877 It has an infamous tea drinking session monogatari doesn't hold a candle to LoTGH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805453 118816253,118831102,2017-03-29 16:38:06,">>118830545 Basically, yes. >everything is art, even a woman stuffing paint in her pussy and ""bleeding it"" on a sheet beneath her >everything is beautiful no matter what I'm not saying abstract art can't be beautiful, but when it's mere uninspired shit, it's almost a ""sin"" to consider it beautiful - in my opinion - because it's most likely along the lines of the artist acting like >oh mang im bored ... making money how ... oh right, put a thick dot on a sheet and sell it for 20k np",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490805486 118816253,118831303,2017-03-29 16:39:46,">>118830545 Exactly. Honestly, I can appreciate some modernist art, Surrealism for example goes against boundaries despite not depicting anything at times, yet it has a certain complexity to it. Nowadays however, people try to out edge themselves and get encouraged by people who think they are intellectuals for saying they can see a meaning in a red square.",,Anonymous,Fugue.jpg,Fo/8nI/O8yHx23OV4MN5gg==,DE,,1490805586 118816253,118831473,2017-03-29 16:41:16,">>118831030 well as an ex-weeb i'll give it a shot I have a long weekend coming up Kino no Tabi was probably the last thing I watched and loved",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805676 118816253,118831529,2017-03-29 16:41:44,Uh.........what? What the hell does cosmopolitan have to do with it?,,Anonymous,wtf does this even mean.png,MIDyKKmilYaCfULHNQXVng==,US,,1490805704 118816253,118831584,2017-03-29 16:42:03,">>118820740 Don't post that fucking image. Nazis will burn with commies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805723 118816253,118831628,2017-03-29 16:42:22,">>118831102 This masterpiece shows how bad capitalism is, I am sure, every piece of modern art nowadays does.",,Anonymous,ideas_and_critics.jpg,sfQsETr/F4ap+HcNdmMCyQ==,DE,,1490805742 118816253,118831681,2017-03-29 16:42:46,">>118831529 It means you don't really have a special connection to in-group preference and get along with everyone.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490805766 118816253,118831688,2017-03-29 16:42:50,">>118831473 it's slow as shit for casuals, watch the movies to get into it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805770 118816253,118831778,2017-03-29 16:43:33,">>118831303 Surrealism is the only valuable contemporary art. Dalí was a genius (and a right-libertarian, for that matter.)",,Anonymous,dali_4.jpg,zYIZWaX8eSwE1bv5cHdeeQ==,ES,,1490805813 118816253,118831936,2017-03-29 16:44:53,">>118831688 i'll space it out with excel saga or something",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805893 118816253,118832023,2017-03-29 16:45:34,">>118831102 >>118831303 >>118831778 Yes, I agree that there is modern art that is not traditional, but beautiful. However, as you said, a woman pissing in a canvas with her period or something is an anomaly, an abhorrence of nature.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490805934 118816253,118832063,2017-03-29 16:45:51,">>118831778 Really? I love Dali.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490805951 118816253,118832103,2017-03-29 16:46:08,">>118831628 >capitalism >bad lel Also ... no shit, I objectively can say that everyone that ""sees"" meaning in this - particularly related to capitalism .... or basially ANY ideology - is retarded af. Why not interpret that Japan is not what it used to be, because their societal morality objective declined throughout the last 50 years and everything is mere fassade anymore ? Yeah right, because it's just a fucking huge red dot on the wall. Sick shit mange",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490805968 118816253,118832206,2017-03-29 16:47:06,">>118831681 Oh..........that's an accurate assessment then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490806026 118816253,118832245,2017-03-29 16:47:22,">>118823328 Conservative Libertarian Total-Isolationist Nationalist Moderate",,Anonymous,cheers.png,zstWFWDkBL9HLO4oXx2FJg==,US,,1490806042 118816253,118832382,2017-03-29 16:48:36,">>118832103 *objectively",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490806116 118816253,118832430,2017-03-29 16:49:06,">>118832245 >>118823328 >>118825238 >>118826701 Would you let me live in your Hoppean covenant community",,Anonymous,i got this.png,3DEVBcHLZZbdB9JjZvQAOw==,ES,,1490806146 118816253,118832442,2017-03-29 16:49:11,">>118831936 >>118829937 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIMIpj20Ajw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490806151 118816253,118832636,2017-03-29 16:50:31,">>118832103 >fassade",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490806231 118816253,118832691,2017-03-29 16:51:06,">>118832023 I visited the Stedelijk Museum when I was in Amsterdam. While some pieces were incredibly complex and beautiful, they were in small numbers. Only two or three artists that I'd even call artists were represented. Pictures like the one I posted took only one room, while the rest was photographs of some shit and chairs. It hurts me to see how much potential is wasted nowadays, since the wrong people get supported by the elites.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490806266 118816253,118832812,2017-03-29 16:52:10,">>118832636 >facade xaxaxaxaxa",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490806330 118816253,118833254,2017-03-29 16:56:05,">>118816253 ancap here. Glad these threads are going strong.",,Anonymous,Ancap_flag.png,62QyIWBLETqLeMTTGhDPlQ==,US,,1490806565 118816253,118833677,2017-03-29 17:00:09,">>118832691 Disgusting. I feel sorry for you mate.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490806809 118816253,118833861,2017-03-29 17:01:43,">>118817490 Why store that shit when u can just eject it into the sun",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490806903 118816253,118834045,2017-03-29 17:03:23,">>118833677 Eh, it definetely was an experience, but it isn't like that was the only museum there. I still got to admire different works that weren't 90% weird conceptual art.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490807003 118816253,118834121,2017-03-29 17:04:07,">>118833861 REEEEEEEEEEEEE DEGENERATE TECH SPEAK",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490807047 118816253,118834163,2017-03-29 17:04:28,">>118833254 We're keepin 'em",,Anonymous,1490743551657.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,DE,,1490807068 118816253,118834580,2017-03-29 17:08:04,">>118833254 Where there is a demand, there is profit to be made. We are meme entrepreneurs and we filled a niche in the market.",,Anonymous,1489200381209.png,tq1mDmBSLQYEBP9Lyv1jvA==,DE,,1490807284 118816253,118834622,2017-03-29 17:08:21,Alright /lrg/ what are your opinions on Obamacare and why or why not the United States should keep it?,,Anonymous,obamacare.jpg,kOY8FLX4gfBYh57yNEvrTA==,US,,1490807301 118816253,118834811,2017-03-29 17:10:15,">>118834622 All state-sponsored healthcare must go. The healthcare market should be completely deregulated.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490807415 118816253,118834890,2017-03-29 17:10:54,">>118834622 The government takes a step into monopolizing the healthcare business like here in Europe, making it harder for private enterprizes to compete, since the government has pretty much unlimited resources to spend on it, pretty much nullifying any possibility of fair competition.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490807454 118816253,118834991,2017-03-29 17:11:56,">>118834622 paying for another to live is theft. those who wish to sustain their life via care can do so voluntarily. However in my tribal society, if it is your time to pass to God, it is your time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490807516 118816253,118835203,2017-03-29 17:13:57,">>118834991 How come Varg has an American flag now lel",,Anonymous,eJwNyUEOhCAMAMC_8AAqBYr6G4IEjUoJ1HjY7N935zof9fRLrWoXaWMF2I6RuG96CPdYsi7M5cqxHUMnviGKxLTfucoADMHPSM5Ya4l8WBBw8eQQnXHTZAL9D556Vn6rbrWo7w8H6iLa.S-h22w5AnUEv_q3cLFzGzBp_bUM.png,cd7RxQlQmogMg2uk/jEyKw==,DE,,1490807637 118816253,118835414,2017-03-29 17:15:58,"Hey guys I'm back and I want to make some propaganda. I'd like to do video readings from Orthodox AnCap texts that answer some of the most frequent /pol/ related FAQ and criticisms as well as sharing the uncucked side of ancap If I am to do these they need to be short and paletable for normies to digest. I've seen too many people telling nazis to ""read Hoppe"" and we both know they arent going to read it. Some ideas I have are doing abridged versions of Rothbards Race, Big-Gov Libertarians, and Hoppes articles like Are Open Borders Libertarian? Give me the best articles, quotes and video clips of Based Ancaps specifically on anti-egalitarian stances.",,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1490807758 118816253,118835443,2017-03-29 17:16:19,">>118834811 But wouldn't that cause healthcare to become more expensive?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490807779 118816253,118835854,2017-03-29 17:20:11,">>118835443 No, once they have to compete against each other, they need to win over customers by either being cheaper than their competitors or offering a better service. So you will see a raise in quality and cheaper prices. Also you can decide for yourself if you want to sacrifice quality for a better price.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490808011 118816253,118835877,2017-03-29 17:20:25,">>118835414 including page",,Anonymous,1490713184063.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,DE,,1490808025 118816253,118836214,2017-03-29 17:23:44,">>118835414 Can I just spam my OC quotes as usual?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490808224 118816253,118836376,2017-03-29 17:25:13,">>118835877 a perfect quote, i'll certanly use that. >>118836214 Sure why not I like Hoppe-spam.",,Anonymous,1490024846810.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,US,,1490808313 118816253,118836519,2017-03-29 17:26:35,">>118836214 I'd say go ahead >>118836376 yisssssss",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490808395 118816253,118836555,2017-03-29 17:26:52,>>118836376,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1490808412 118816253,118836603,2017-03-29 17:27:16,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1490808436 118816253,118836663,2017-03-29 17:27:47,">>118834580 I must admit ancaps and libertarians have a fantastic meme machine. Even memes that make fun of it like smug ancap ball are great. Hoppean snake memes and hippety hoppity are strong new ones.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490808467 118816253,118836672,2017-03-29 17:27:49,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1490808469 118816253,118836710,2017-03-29 17:28:09,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1490808489 118816253,118836753,2017-03-29 17:28:28,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1490808508 118816253,118836800,2017-03-29 17:28:50,,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1490808530 118816253,118836839,2017-03-29 17:29:09,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1490808549 118816253,118836884,2017-03-29 17:29:28,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1490808568 118816253,118836930,2017-03-29 17:29:49,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1490808589 118816253,118836975,2017-03-29 17:30:09,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1490808609 118816253,118837010,2017-03-29 17:30:28,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1490808628 118816253,118837050,2017-03-29 17:30:48,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1490808648 118816253,118837055,2017-03-29 17:30:49,">>118817140 >Cigarette related deaths >Children killed by hunger durin the 1990's >Children killed by preventable disease since 9/11 >Children killed bu hunger 2011-2008 You're literally padding the fucking numbers by adding in a bunch of things that can't possibly be attributed to capitalism. You're basically arguing that anytime someone, somewhere dies in the world it's the fault of Capitalism. You commies are literal retards.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490808649 118816253,118837089,2017-03-29 17:31:07,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1490808667 118816253,118837099,2017-03-29 17:31:13,">>118816253 This looks like garbage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490808673 118816253,118837133,2017-03-29 17:31:30,">>118837099 Your mother is garbage.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1490808690 118816253,118837174,2017-03-29 17:31:49,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1490808709 118816253,118837210,2017-03-29 17:32:10,,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1490808730 118816253,118837309,2017-03-29 17:33:05,/dump.,,Anonymous,hoppe reading order.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,PT,,1490808785 118816253,118837421,2017-03-29 17:33:58,">>118816253 I dont get what people see in this libertarian crap,its already been tried in liberia,somalia etc.Just a bunc of edgelords who want to become warlords....kek. The niggers would kill you in a heartbeat dumb cunts.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490808838 118816253,118837545,2017-03-29 17:34:55,How does an ancap society prevent wealth and power from being accumulated in the hands of only a few that can effectively hinder competition from entering the market?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490808895 118816253,118837798,2017-03-29 17:37:16,">>118837545 If there is no political caste there is nobody to befirend and get benefts from. Monoplies only exist of nepotism and lobbyism, leading to government intervention that favors certain interest groups. If they had to compete on a free market, they couldn't compete and exploit workers at the same time, since even the smallest competitor could take away all of their employees.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490809036 118816253,118837834,2017-03-29 17:37:34,">>118837545 what makes a mercenary company you pay protection money not a government? Because it's voluntary I guess? Ancap is about a meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490809054 118816253,118837890,2017-03-29 17:38:00,">>118837421 Actually Somalia has gotten better because of it, gypsyfriend. https://mises.org/library/stateless-somalia-and-loving-it https://mises.org/library/anarchy-somalia",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490809080 118816253,118837924,2017-03-29 17:38:21,">>118837421 >what is Hoppe libertarianism Your >>118835414 quick rundown can't come soon enough.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490809101 118816253,118838015,2017-03-29 17:39:09,">>118837545 >hinder competition from entering the market The only way to do that in a free market is to offer better service. >>118837834 >Because it's voluntary",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490809149 118816253,118838039,2017-03-29 17:39:24,">>118835203 qeq",,Anonymous,snakewithhat.jpg,JZ/2uuQlRcUtgLH58LMjuA==,US,,1490809164 118816253,118838166,2017-03-29 17:40:24,">>118837545 People underestimate how hard it to acquire that much capital, it would be even harder without the state giving big business advantages such as minimum wage laws , copyright laws. If a company decided they wanted to buy up smaller competitors then entruprenurs would just make a living constantly starting up new companies just for them to be bought out later on.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490809224 118816253,118838339,2017-03-29 17:41:54,>>118838039,,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU1NTg5Mjc5My5qcGcifQ.t6nnLdG_Ar9hK0CIadRigLF6K7M.jpg,eldX4HxBIWW0NA8MF/7sFw==,DE,,1490809314 118816253,118838764,2017-03-29 17:45:37,"Hey, what would you think about putting some of the political tests that get posted in the threads into the OP and pastebin? It certainly started some interesting discussions, helped keeping the thread bumped and let's people uncertain about their ideology question their views and gets them to ask questions (as long as those don't dominate the thread, but they didn't tend to do that in the last couple of threads)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490809537 118816253,118838805,2017-03-29 17:46:09,">>118838166 >If a company decided they wanted to buy up smaller competitors then entruprenurs would just make a living constantly starting up new companies just for them to be bought out later on. that's fucking hilarious to think about lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490809569 118816253,118838941,2017-03-29 17:47:14,">>118816253 As a libertarian worker do I still have my right to collectively organise in a free association of fellow workers?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490809634 118816253,118838991,2017-03-29 17:47:37,">>118838764 That's a great idea, actually. I favor it. Noice.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490809657 118816253,118839184,2017-03-29 17:49:22,">>118822229 >There is nothing preventing a company from paving their own roads and setting up toll booths to maintain it and turn a profit from it. In Europe that's not true.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490809762 118816253,118839217,2017-03-29 17:49:37,"What ideology does Pinochet fall under? My dad loves the guy and thinks any left of him is a filthy commie",,Anonymous,and they remained silent.jpg,JIms1/CxGU9FiLgqj8OcHw==,US,,1490809777 118816253,118839233,2017-03-29 17:49:43,">>118838991 The only problem I have with it is that the OP starts to reach bogpill quick rundwon length levels, but what ideology could be xplained away with one link?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490809783 118816253,118839244,2017-03-29 17:49:49,">>118838941 Stop thinking in terms of positive rights. You don't have the ""right"" to anything except your property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490809789 118816253,118839259,2017-03-29 17:50:00,">>118838941 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative Of course.",,Anonymous,1449693044341.webm,RYobogUod2ljNfqo4k3wnA==,SI,,1490809800 118816253,118839359,2017-03-29 17:50:45,">>118838941 Absolutely.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490809845 118816253,118839661,2017-03-29 17:53:21,">>118838941 If your employer can't fulfill your needs he has to either adapt or run the risk of losing you and fellow workers as employees. Showing him that you'd be able to leave will make him reconsider wages and work conditions, since changing those would mean less of a deficit than losing you alltogether.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490810001 118816253,118839747,2017-03-29 17:54:11,"Hello Gentlemen! I used to identify with libertarianism, and this was certainly before this new strain emerged where it seems like you guys just want to throw liberals out of helicopters. My question is, what makes you different than the rest of us fascists/nationalists? More free market oriented? If so, it sounds good to me, but I just don't see how libertarianism is equipped to deal with our current day problems with demography.",,Anonymous,IMG_6905.png,+6VrwYUEK8S2+wunZ05EAQ==,US,,1490810051 118816253,118839786,2017-03-29 17:54:31,">>118838166 Why would they bother buying new companies when they are like warlords and could just take them out",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490810071 118816253,118839799,2017-03-29 17:54:36,">>118839244 >>118839259 >>118839359 Excellent news. So without state sanctioned oppression of workers and unchecked ability to withdraw labour at will an increasingly syndicalist state could be achieved within a libertarian state with the consent of all concerned?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490810076 118816253,118839873,2017-03-29 17:55:16,">>118839217 He's the spiritual authoritarian dictator of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,1EV_SflrEmlq8eDhZ1SQ54rf8atDKUC6FEYr9_zBYm8.jpg,x9kba0Q8c/6Xu4JH82rjdA==,US,,1490810116 118816253,118840024,2017-03-29 17:56:34,">>118839799 Keyword is ""consent"", yes. But it will only remain popular in so far that it is efficient and favorable to the people to decide to allow themselves under that system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490810194 118816253,118840028,2017-03-29 17:56:36,">>118839747 Fuck off with your taxes and morality laws Aside from that we have a lot in common",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490810196 118816253,118840068,2017-03-29 17:56:52,">>118839786 >war is so cheap lol I am 12",,Anonymous,1490769547049.gif,pPvtkj9GnJ2FlHdncJZqCw==,US,,1490810212 118816253,118840097,2017-03-29 17:57:07,,,Anonymous,Mastarcard.png,IZyx+ip9XrF1yqwdbu2fAA==,US,,1490810227 118816253,118840131,2017-03-29 17:57:21,">>118816253 REMOVE LEFTIST SCUM",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-03-27-19-14-21.png,ttCTfDfBuMbBktUNETb9aA==,US,,1490810241 118816253,118840139,2017-03-29 17:57:25,">>118839217 He's a minarchist who had power over limited areas but where he had power he had much of it. He shows that a non democratic system is very efficient at deregulating the market. His reign actually has some similarities to early Italian fascism, where the parliament could be avoided and laissez faire economic reforms were enacted.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490810245 118816253,118840152,2017-03-29 17:57:31,">>118839661 This has pretty much always been my appeal toward libertarianism, the state has tended to oppress the worker and aid the employer. Libertarian Epoch would be the acid test",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490810251 118816253,118840227,2017-03-29 17:58:08,">>118839799 >ability to withdraw labour at will Depends on the contracts you make, but I think you'd definitely have more bargaining power under a free market.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490810288 118816253,118840411,2017-03-29 17:59:47,">>118839747 the seat of power held by the nazis is now occupied by angela merkel it is now a violent crime to talk about the holocaust in an unapproved manner you WILL have violence put against you so ancaps solution is to NOT have a seat of power that could eventually be taken over by someone who just makes ancap illegal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490810387 118816253,118840524,2017-03-29 18:00:37,">>118840152 Exactly, socialists and socialist worker unions are corrupt to the bone. People should be able to freely associate without pushing a collectivist agenda, they don't need the support of some dirty politician for that. And if these same politicians don't put money up their employers ass, he actually is dependent on the workers.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490810437 118816253,118840525,2017-03-29 18:00:37,">>118840139 thanks KrautBro, I'm liking the sound of this Minarchist deal, government only exists to protect its citizens and all that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490810437 118816253,118840530,2017-03-29 18:00:40,">>118816253 While you were LARPing, the people in The Memetic Principality of Kek have just described a real and solid plan to actually create an ethno anarcho capitalism. HERE: http://memeticprincipalityofkek.club/index.php?msg=1;topic=1.0 and HERE: http://memeticprincipalityofkek.club/index.php?topic=40.msg259#new",,Anonymous,kek-coin-trans (1).png,BOWSoTIZuGXSlm/UkjkDhQ==,ES,,1490810440 118816253,118840604,2017-03-29 18:01:14,">>118839786 Companies hiring armies and switching to a goal of conquest would be incredibly costly. On their journey towards this they would likely have to increase prices for their customers which would let their competitors thrive. If they some how managed to do this then you just end up with another state and thus would have to abolished again!. Also: https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490810474 118816253,118840723,2017-03-29 18:02:22,">>118840525 minarchism is only useful as a transitional period to ancap, but it's more pragmatic in the short term",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490810542 118816253,118840752,2017-03-29 18:02:35,">>118816253 Bumping with ancap goblin pepe OC",,Anonymous,GoblinPepeNosed.png,xo9xkWoYtWV+WsaR2D7Lyg==,RO,,1490810555 118816253,118840855,2017-03-29 18:03:33,">>118840723 How so? >Yes I'm new to all this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490810613 118816253,118841054,2017-03-29 18:05:10,">>118833254 >>118834163 my favorite threads thanks Deutsche-bro",,Anonymous,1485953105939.jpg,WnHhljWcIZhgLq63GqR1SQ==,US,,1490810710 118816253,118841109,2017-03-29 18:05:39,">>118826701 With those scores I invite (you) to discuss the creation of The Memetic Principality of Kek, here: http://memeticprincipalityofkek.club/index.php?msg=1;topic=1.0",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490810739 118816253,118841157,2017-03-29 18:05:58,">>118836930 >>118836975 you go on the an-cap sub sometimes?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490810758 118816253,118841199,2017-03-29 18:06:20,">>118840723 If conducted right, they don't differ all that much. But like I said, a monarchy has somewhat more of a legitimation because of historical context, meaning that a minarchy would more often than not need to be installed violently, while a monarchy could easier be achieved by secession and regaining of historical territory. >mfw I'm still shilling for the secession of a Bavarian kingdom",,Anonymous,1488660949806.png,yw2d3lMOHBSnGZTelX1Yog==,DE,,1490810780 118816253,118841217,2017-03-29 18:06:28,">>118840855 government implies authority which implies corruptibility. If you have a small government it can be grown larger. If you have no government it needs to be formed, which is hard in an ancap society because power is decentralized. Look at turkey, their military's main purpose was to prevent democracy from failing and they would start a coup every 20 years to remove the current dictatorship. They recently failed and now will never become democratic again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490810788 118816253,118841281,2017-03-29 18:07:08,">>118840131 >leftist oh shit",,Anonymous,removal34.png,TOcOz9IxGlYKTFvrm2FjjA==,DE,,1490810828 118816253,118841316,2017-03-29 18:07:30,"The CTR Shills and Payments: https://beta.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2016&disbursement_purpose_categories=other&committee_id=C00578997&min_date=01-01-2015&max_date=10-05-2016 http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/318/201607159020655318/201607159020655318.pdf#navpanes=0",,Anonymous,35323662213.jpg,u03hZCGSXA9aiXuiLpSKQQ==,US,,1490810850 118816253,118841352,2017-03-29 18:07:47,">>118839747 think of it like this goy, You, the indivdual are the fascist state. you control all internal affairs to your liking, this includes your property and private community. You just don't kill, steal, threaten from people who havent agreed to your terms when on your property. for example if you're tired of shitskins coming into your community you tell em to fuck off and build wall. if they continue to trespass you cap those nogs.",,Anonymous,AnarchistGadsden.png,YB/46et2ZZC+7S0LzOEFsA==,US,,1490810867 118816253,118841377,2017-03-29 18:08:00,">>118841199 >>118840723 Woops, I read monarchism instead of minarchism, doesn't matter, the point that they aren't all that different still stands.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490810880 118816253,118841514,2017-03-29 18:09:11,">>118841217 I see, you could have some one whose upright and fair with power in small government but all it takes is someone trying to take advantage it with some kike-like behavior to ruin it Better not to have it at all, also I keep hearing something about roads defeating libertarians, whats that all about? Is it just a meme?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490810951 118816253,118841793,2017-03-29 18:11:29,">>118841281 The dude covered in green got fired from his job for that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490811089 118816253,118841923,2017-03-29 18:12:46,">>118841514 It is, people can hire private companies to build roads. They are paid by individuals who see use in said road and invest into the project.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490811166 118816253,118841997,2017-03-29 18:13:30,I don't hate my nazi brothers because they are just anarchists waiting to see that gov't ALWAYS fails.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490811210 118816253,118842046,2017-03-29 18:13:57,">>118841514 The roads shit is sheeple who can't think out of their box, they don't know how things can work without government. Apparently without government roads will never be built. 1) We don't necessarily need roads, they are potentially inefficient. Why have roads when you can have trains or communal transportation? The idea of the free market is that inefficient solutions die to more efficient ones. Banks go bankrupt instead of bailed out. Oil is not subsided by government or war, it is replaced by the most efficient energy resource. 2) If you wish to live near roads then you join a community that wants roads. If a community wants to trade efficiently with another community then they will have roads. If you decide to live away from communities then you pay for your own roads or don't purchase property without them. Your property value goes up when you have road access.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490811237 118816253,118842289,2017-03-29 18:16:01,">>118841997 Most NatSocs are burgers that haven't yet experienced the joy that is big government. They should spend a year in EUrope and they'd think otherwise.",,Anonymous,^D9AB88158418D388E9104832EA360C6224044041DAE4F9D2DA^pimgpsh_fullsize_distr.jpg,bn3IXBeVXFCE6hTyYof4Tg==,DE,,1490811361 118816253,118842337,2017-03-29 18:16:25,">>118817140 >Someone somewhere in the world dies of hunger -> It's capitalism's fault! >Every war including WW I & II is somehow capitalism's fault >People deciding to smoke cigarettes is capitalism's fault (despite the fact that people smoke tabacco everywhere in the world including communist countries) This is some of the worst bait I have read today. Very low effort.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490811385 118816253,118842414,2017-03-29 18:17:07,">>118840524 I agree that the trade union movement has lost its way, definitely true here in the UK at least, but I think the collectivist agenda is intertwined with collective action by individual workers. There could be a situation in a libertarian society where the overwhelming majority of workers join the equivalent a general trade union that effectively imposes and controls a minimum wage. The difference with now being that it is controlled by a democratic trade union of freely associating individuals rather than a government of elected representatives.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490811427 118816253,118842419,2017-03-29 18:17:09,">>118841514 >roads Highways would probably be built by companies, local roads would probably be owned by the real estate owners and these would contract the highway companies. Not to mention there's also railways, planes or even boats if you're in the right place.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490811429 118816253,118842565,2017-03-29 18:18:25,">>118837055 Well it is the fault of capitalism; it's the fault of capitalism not being applied hard enough",,Anonymous,GoblinPepe.png,BY8yRJ4SJWMdtosK3wcGfw==,RO,,1490811505 118816253,118842582,2017-03-29 18:18:35,">>118842046 >>118841923 I had a feeling that it was all just trolling bullshit Honestly, I read about the early days of the US and I miss that sense of self reliance Americans had and that frontier spirit, I've looked up to the founding fathers most of my life and read most of their writings If the founding fathers were around today, would they be libertarians or were they on their own league?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490811515 118816253,118842749,2017-03-29 18:20:11,">>118841514 >There is demand for roads >Therefore are willing to pay for roads (e.g. toll roads) >Therefore, roads are profitable >A company hires another company to make and maintain roads, both gaining from this deal >Roads exist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490811611 118816253,118842769,2017-03-29 18:20:27,">>118842414 Yeah, cancelling the government as mediator definetely would reduce corruption. I think it is necessary that employees and their employer communicate over these issues to ensure both sides are satisfied. The important thing is that nobody should force the employer to do anything, he should be free to do what he wants. That may mean that he loses employees, but that is his decision.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490811627 118816253,118842801,2017-03-29 18:20:46,">>118842289 I really think (you) would admire the beauty of the system described here: >>118841109",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490811646 118816253,118842994,2017-03-29 18:22:32,">>118816497 I am curious about Hoppe, he seems like smilar to my toughts. Any recommandations on starting with which one?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1490811752 118816253,118843078,2017-03-29 18:23:19,">>118842582 >would they be libertarians or were they on their own league? I personally believe them to be overhyped, but I'd just pigeonhole them as constitutionalists and leave it at that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490811799 118816253,118843092,2017-03-29 18:23:26,">>118842582 They'd be libertarian with a certain turn on some things. They were in favor of mild protectionism for example. But you have to consider that many ideologies have developed over time they hadn't experienced anymore. I am sure many of them could warm up for the idea of Hoppe libertarianism and its potential of upholding both a free market and traditional values combined with individual freedom.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490811806 118816253,118843148,2017-03-29 18:24:00,">>118823328 >http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php Objectivist Anarchist Isolationist Nativist Traditionalist Collectivism score: -100% Authoritarianism score: -100% Internationalism score: -67% Tribalism score: 67% Liberalism score: -33% Seems fine, though I want traditionalism to be more of a voluntary culture thing and not necessarily a government enforced policy.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1490811840 118816253,118843270,2017-03-29 18:25:02,">>118843092 Just for curiosity... are you globalist or nationalist? I mean open borders for everybody?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490811902 118816253,118843303,2017-03-29 18:25:25,">>118843092 We're also talking about a time where nuclear arms had not been invented yet, and state aggression wasn't that big of a deal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490811925 118816253,118843335,2017-03-29 18:25:42,">>118842994 If you're interested in Hoppe ""alone"", see >>118837309 If you're generally interested, I'd recommend you start with ""Anatomy of the State"" of Rothbard (you can read it in an hour or 2) and go ahead with ""Democracy - The God that Failed"" by Hoppe. Then you're set",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490811942 118816253,118843377,2017-03-29 18:26:07,">>118843148 Based, and yeah, being socially conservative doesn't equal wanting a government to enforce it. Many AnCaps have paleolibertarian values.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490811967 118816253,118843513,2017-03-29 18:27:24,">>118843270 >Just for curiosity... are you globalist or nationalist? I mean open borders for everybody? open borders and immigration become meaningless when government doesn't exist. If all land is divided among individuals, then how can you immigrate? You have to purchase or rent land, or inherit it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490812044 118816253,118843616,2017-03-29 18:28:20,">>118823328 Collectivism score: -100% Authoritarianism score: -67% Internationalism score: -50% Tribalism score: 33% Liberalism score: 0%",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1490812100 118816253,118843696,2017-03-29 18:29:07,">>118843377 >>118837309 Thank you guys very much",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1490812147 118816253,118843757,2017-03-29 18:29:34,">>118843513 Vote lolbertian goys! Those third world muds won't vote for another judeo-communist lenin or trotsky tier American in a generation or two.",,Anonymous,1490346608130.jpg,k686N/mX4hWtjTTEL47o3w==,CA,,1490812174 118816253,118843832,2017-03-29 18:30:12,">>118843270 Once a anarcho capitalist society is achieved, it is the decision of each community to make, but until then I am in favor of pre Trudeau Canadian immigration law, since it's pretty meritocratic >get scored with points >valuable profession, likely to work >high score >allowed in If you have value, you get in, easy as that. A pity that logical thinking is fascist and pragmatism has been replaced by emotions and empathy in politics.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490812212 118816253,118843859,2017-03-29 18:30:25,"Who needs taxes! Jews already have Jewish community centers, Jewish schools, and live in tightly compacted urban centers. We've already pilfered goy pension funds and don't need refugee stipends and handouts anymore. We need lolbertarianism! At least until the third world elects the next American judeo-communist (((trotsky))) or (((lenin))) in a few generations. But rabbi, lolbertarianism light only has support of 5-10% max of the population and virtually all of the """"""intellectuals"""""" are kikes that also push for open borders. This will just create more divides between the decent and selfish right and will only help push the (((democrat))) narrative that the right doesn't care about working people. >tfw you're the rabbi",,Anonymous,223334816.jpg,159h6vGB/59uXMDLIv5j+A==,CA,,1490812225 118816253,118843915,2017-03-29 18:30:58,">>118843757 >Those third world muds won't vote you are obviously ignorant, you can't vote in an ancap society. Democracy is the problem",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490812258 118816253,118843985,2017-03-29 18:31:43,">>118843915 Don't bother, he used the same pasta in the old thread, just ignore him.",,Anonymous,1490545007236.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,DE,,1490812303 118816253,118844012,2017-03-29 18:31:57,">>118843757 >vote are you trying to genocide me rabbi? There's no democracy in Ancapistan. Agressors (like communists by their very nature) will be rejected and not given an inch of land.",,Anonymous,1487041975527.jpg,WOXJhZNneX564LJE5Tn+Mg==,US,,1490812317 118816253,118844064,2017-03-29 18:32:24,">>118843985 I remember him, but inaction is normalization",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490812344 118816253,118844100,2017-03-29 18:32:43,">>118843915 So what happens when you have a bunch of kikes rile up the minorities to overthrow your government and install judeo-communism like they did in the Russian Empire? You're literally advocating for a Russian Empire tier society, knowing full well that it will end in judeo-communism.",,Anonymous,1476848604818.png,+qPyeNmqseVQtLkSTH7gbg==,CA,,1490812363 118816253,118844131,2017-03-29 18:33:01,">>118843832 >>118843513 Ok, then we all agree that borders are a resource that shouldn't be removed until you achieve full anarchocapitalism, isn't it?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490812381 118816253,118844145,2017-03-29 18:33:10,">>118843915 the delusional nat(((soc))) leaf already spammed his nonsense in my first thread from earlier today",,Anonymous,removal2.png,r2I3QxRCafRrzTc5qYoQlQ==,DE,,1490812390 118816253,118844182,2017-03-29 18:33:27,">>118823328 Collectivism score: -100% Authoritarianism score: -83% Internationalism score: -100% Tribalism score: 67% Liberalism score: -17% >You are a: Objectivist Anarchist Total-Isolationist Nativist Traditionalist Wh-What does this mean?..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490812407 118816253,118844297,2017-03-29 18:34:32,">>118844012 There was no democracy in the Russian Empire. Again the kikes managed to create a mud army to overthrow and murder millions of ethnic Russians through jew funding, factory leaflets and speeches. National Socialism taxed working families, from the farmer to the lawyer, far less than the most libertarian county, in the most libertarian state, in the most libertarian developed country on the planet.",,Anonymous,1480977749735.jpg,jM2Yfo/ZEDeiW1djfFSYzg==,CA,,1490812472 118816253,118844309,2017-03-29 18:34:37,">>118844131 I could argue either way to be honest >rile up the minorities >minorities",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490812477 118816253,118844311,2017-03-29 18:34:37,">>118843985 >>118844064 This. You guys can be nice to shitfags like this in a libertarian society. they'll fuck everything up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490812477 118816253,118844385,2017-03-29 18:35:14,">>118844309 forgot # >>118844100",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490812514 118816253,118844540,2017-03-29 18:36:33,">>118844297 Maybe Russia was taken by the kikes because slavs are inhuman mongoloids that cant do anything but drink potatoes, let alone think about the people trying to subvert them.",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1490812593 118816253,118844672,2017-03-29 18:37:51,">>118844131 Yeah, if a government has any use, it's protecting the nation from outside forces. The first and foremost priority needs to be the dissolvement of the democratic system, followed by the dismanteling of the welfare state. Then all other unnecessary institutions that can be provided by the free market need to be removed. Also, all institutions that solely serve for preserving the government power instead of protecting the people need to be stopped (secret services etc.) After all of this, the nation needs to be split up into smaller bits, until only small, self sufficent regions exist. Then border control is their own business. At no time should borders be dissolved.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490812671 118816253,118844908,2017-03-29 18:39:48,">>118844309 > You just have to be pragmatic. You live in a system ruled by numbers. The group that get the bigger numbers in the elections rule the others. So why would you let in people who are willing to take over your country? BTW... the system you are describing is VERY similar to what the ppl of the memetic principality of kek are going to create. You should read it, follow this link: >>118841109",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490812788 118816253,118844948,2017-03-29 18:40:09,>>118816253,,Anonymous,physremov.jpg,dQGUjYete6AsZ7Z72E0coA==,US,,1490812809 118816253,118844977,2017-03-29 18:40:21,">>118844297 >take on massive amounts of debt >produce tons tanks and shells that benefit no one >implement tariffs further restricting the economy >claim you fixed the economy because unemployment went down Explain why this isn't your typical socialist crackhead economics? >Between 1933 and 1939 the total revenue amounted to 62 billion marks, whereas expenditure (at times comprising up to 60% rearmament costs) exceeded 101 billion, thus causing a huge deficit and national debt (reaching 38 billion marks in 1939 and coinciding with Kristallnacht [November 1938] and with intensified persecutions of Jews and the outbreak of World War II.)[5][6]",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490812821 118816253,118845008,2017-03-29 18:40:40,">>118844540 Yeah perhaps. Perhaps a nation that was 80% ethnic Russian was more susceptible to judeo-communism than a nation where """"""whites"""""""" (europeans, jews, turks, berbers, persians, arabs, etc.) are only 61% of the population and where 5/8 babies are born to non-europeans. If I was a kike i'd want nothing more than lolbertarianism (6/8 of the Mises Institute were kikes and more than half of their current staff are kikes) so that I could get that demographic tipping point though famine, imprisonment and immigration, have revolutions for """"""""democracy"""""""" and then go full jew commie seize all the wealth and kill all the intellectuals.",,Anonymous,1472510236796.jpg,xqok2kEaree6RCeAtolYpw==,CA,,1490812840 118816253,118845072,2017-03-29 18:41:10,">>118844672 That's top down, but I think you could start bottom up. Privatize the easy stuff (mail, education) and then gradually get to the harder stuff (judges, law, etc). From there once the dust settles and people realize they don't need government they'll vote government out of power and disband it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490812870 118816253,118845175,2017-03-29 18:42:10,">>118844908 I looked at it. The issue is when you try to install a temporary state inside another state... well they aren't going to be as nice as they are to the amish that's for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490812930 118816253,118845231,2017-03-29 18:42:36,">>118844297 >leaflets >leaff suberversive post detected",,Anonymous,removal3.png,QypbLdEdNf2dQ1cnsJoypQ==,DE,,1490812956 118816253,118845365,2017-03-29 18:43:47,">>118845072 EH, I was speaking about it if you'd take the political approach of dismanetling the government, but I still have my doubts if that is the best method. Getting into power with the agenda of diminishing said power won't be easy, the establishment would go more nuts on you than on le evil nazi parties like the AfD.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490813027 118816253,118845553,2017-03-29 18:45:28,">>118845175 yeah, but wyoming only has 500k ppl... in a few decades you can outnumber them. Ready to make history? Wyoming: no income taxes, no corporate taxes",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490813128 118816253,118845656,2017-03-29 18:46:11,">>118844977 Nice wikipedia copy and paste, let's look at your wiki source. H .P. Willmott World War II, p. 1 https://books.google.ca/books/about/World_War_II.html?id=3VsYPwAACAAJ There isn't one single source listed in this book for any claim he makes, and it wasn't a prominent book whatsoever. The major rearmament didn't even start until three years after Hitler was elected and even the German government states federal revenues were more than that every single year until the war.",,Anonymous,national-unity-party-welcome-02.png,SEt0pI7ZQUkhP3MVV7BZmw==,CA,,1490813171 118816253,118845688,2017-03-29 18:46:28,">>118845008 absolutley that could happen. However a revolution organized by libertarians could also install their own regime of loyal libertarians. Dedicating its power to dealing with the (((opposition))) and finally moving towards a libertarian society free of the communist degredation of private property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490813188 118816253,118845752,2017-03-29 18:47:02,">>118845553 I mean sure I'd throw down some decentralized currency, but I remain a skeptic of anything and everything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490813222 118816253,118846061,2017-03-29 18:49:35,">>118845688 Conservatives couldn't even conserve our children's bathrooms from the kike. Yet you want to have another Red-White revolution with an enemy that has an unlimited bankroll, subversives in every nation, and a pre-existing loyalty structure. Good luck. Thankfully lolbertarianism only exists in the USA (Mises Institute was 6/8 kikes) and even there you can get 5-10% of the vote max, at the cost of reinforcing the argument that right wingers are heartless bastards.",,Anonymous,nsg-1h1.png,6pT1y4fDVr8L/nJ51xEX5w==,CA,,1490813375 118816253,118846209,2017-03-29 18:50:54,">>118845688 88 Confirms the lolbertarian whitemanistan?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490813454 118816253,118846642,2017-03-29 18:55:11,">>118845752 >decentralized currency, Do you not study your own nations history? The NSDAP had the right idea. No fiat. No gold standard. No universal reserve currency. They pegged the mark to a basket of goods produced in the country. Money creation effectively tied to industrial output, and all money creation would be spread among all citizens holding marks when efficencies and consumption increases thus in return boosting purchasing power. They all but abolished unearned income and interest which is required to make this happen. These are the two main differences between NatSoc and lolbertarianism, the former believe the working class should pay as little tax as possible and the latter believe that (((people))) sitting on five thousand million dollars stolen from the Soviet Union should not only be held up as the model of society but should pay a similar, or perhaps even lower, rate of tax than the working man.",,Anonymous,nsg-1h2.png,Sw//8FKVVrnyXfcmFmLK/Q==,CA,,1490813711 118816253,118846741,2017-03-29 18:56:07,im too left cuckboys im sorry,,Anonymous,Capture.png,wCx//O96ihiDNnPwqcFHuA==,US,,1490813767 118816253,118846832,2017-03-29 18:56:55,">>118846061 6/8 of them were kikes, this is true. But NONE of them were Leftists, Zionists, or Globalists. Jews are just really good at counting shekels so they perform exeedingly well in economics. That being said there are tons of actual (((libertarians))) who promote tons of faggy shit. multiculturalism and the like. they came after to hijack the movement. I looked deep into the kike situation of libertarianism. I don't have to be NatSoc to know to watch them closely.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1490813815 118816253,118846853,2017-03-29 18:57:06,">>118846741 >too left May I interest you in free helicopter ride?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490813826 118816253,118846918,2017-03-29 18:57:46,">>118846832 When looking at this and society in general we must remember they are 1-2% of the population. Only when looking at the sheer odds can we understand the level of subversion and nepotism. >One Jew is.. 1:50 >Two Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:2500 >Three Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:125,000 >Four Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:6,250,000 >Five Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:312,500,000 >Six Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:15,625,000,000 >Seven Jews in a row without nepotism is.. 1:781,250,000,000",,Anonymous,1490304235749.jpg,LR8FmOTq+DmFrkC68wkb7A==,CA,,1490813866 118816253,118846977,2017-03-29 18:58:22,">>118846853 i think im down, let me grab my taxes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490813902 118816253,118847027,2017-03-29 18:58:51,">>118846918 only a jew would know those numbers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490813931 118816253,118847201,2017-03-29 19:00:22,">>118846832 Most non-jewish so called 'right libertarians' could probably get behind a modern national socialist program. National Socialism taxed working families, from the farmer to the lawyer, far less than the most libertarian county, in the most libertarian state, in the most libertarian developed country on the planet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program",,Anonymous,1472341573166.jpg,M5qiD7JSyfuBb7lqXjBy3A==,CA,,1490814022 118816253,118847402,2017-03-29 19:02:09,">>118847201 id be down for nazism as the muslim solution",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490814129 118816253,118847547,2017-03-29 19:03:19,">>118847201 ""We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.""",,Anonymous,1472307497644.jpg,2fuMUZoKzY/1BTZbNd02yA==,CA,,1490814199 118816253,118847670,2017-03-29 19:04:26,">>118846642 >Money creation effectively tied to industrial output Central planning garbage. It would've ended the same way any communist country did. You can pretend tanks create value and that Hitler didn't just tax the shit out of all the actually productive people through printing free money all you want.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490814266 118816253,118847700,2017-03-29 19:04:42,">>118846918 Ok and in a libertarian social order you and your fashy kin can form a community of non-degenerate whites dedicated to promoting an existence for your future generations. anyone who seeks to harm your children (even by speech that promototes degeneracy within your covenant) can be delt with at your discretion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490814282 118816253,118848123,2017-03-29 19:08:37,">>118847670 >Central planning garbage. The greatest threat to the European races is not a strong government rather the very opposite. You're forgetting that the Americans spent more of their GDP on armaments than the NSDAP did in 1933, 1934, and 1935. Compare what Hitler did in six years during the greatest recession in history, and while boycotted by judea since 1933, to what America has done in the nine years (think 10t in debt) since the recession. What has the EU achieved in the last 20 years for the working man with never before seen technology, wealth, and peace. I see disintegration, mass population replacement migration, skyrocketing debt and suicides, plummeting birthrates and wealth, etc.",,Anonymous,1478967484474.png,0ICQsUqWdP4QJMkrJnzYkQ==,CA,,1490814517 118848647,118848647,2017-03-29 19:13:21,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DAY OF THE REMOVAL EDITION,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1490814801 118848647,118848735,2017-03-29 19:13:59,,,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1490814839 118848647,118848799,2017-03-29 19:14:31,,,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(2).png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1490814871 118848647,118848859,2017-03-29 19:15:06,,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1490814906 118848647,118849059,2017-03-29 19:17:09,Physical Remawoooval,,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo-old.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,US,,1490815029 118848647,118849069,2017-03-29 19:17:11,">>118847201 There are many perspectives National Socialism that I respect. You hold yourselves to high standards. I don't agree with what you call a ""libertarian society"" democratic republics are a soft collectivist dictatorship. Much like the marxist ""rise of the prolitariat"" or whatever they call it. it is a collective dictatorship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490815031 118848647,118849435,2017-03-29 19:20:48,">>118848647 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490815248 118848647,118849518,2017-03-29 19:21:33,">>118849069 The real question is: what is your plan for defeating the Jews? Trump isn't doing it, he just delayed TDOTR indefinitely. If you have no central banks and a good insurance company you can be free of Jewish influence. What's you better proposal? I think shills are all reacting for their CIA or JIDF jobs, or else people uncomfortable due to ignorance. I don't see NatSocs proposing any better ideas. What this very basic lecture for 30 minutes to dispel most ignorance. part 1: https://youtu.be/f82mHHAt6yI?t=6m5s part 2: https://youtu.be/0IEQmuaJeew",,Anonymous,snek choppers.jpg,40hPaqCrnbfeSOM88ztfeA==,US,,1490815293 118848647,118849842,2017-03-29 19:24:44,">>118849069 The real question is: what is your plan for defeating the Jews? Trump isn't doing it, he just delayed TDOTR indefinitely. If you have no central banks and a good insurance company you can be free of Jewish influence. What's your better proposal? I think shills are all reacting for their CIA or JIDF jobs, or else they are people uncomfortable due to ignorance. I don't see NatSocs proposing any better ideas. Watch this very basic lecture for 30 minutes to dispel most ignorance. part 1: https://youtu.be/f82mHHAt6yI?t=6m5s part 2: https://youtu.be/0IEQmuaJeew",,Anonymous,hoppe multi ethnic multucultural.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,US,,1490815484 118848647,118849860,2017-03-29 19:24:53,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490815493 118848647,118849976,2017-03-29 19:25:53,,,Anonymous,7363_916693195034795_6690118597194555039_n.jpg,oUDJufHjZDdio4xXJDTzMw==,GB,,1490815553 118848647,118850239,2017-03-29 19:28:14,">>118849518 I propose we remove the state institutions. giving no one the tools needed to destroy the family unit. giving you the ability to make the choices needed to promote a healthy enviorment for your children.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490815694 118848647,118850714,2017-03-29 19:32:18,">>118848647 These threads are getting better and better",,Anonymous,pepe-wojack-thanksgiving-4.jpg,rPMeSz6uLGRvDWPF0bu6nw==,US,,1490815938 118848647,118850790,2017-03-29 19:32:55,>>118848647,,Anonymous,physremov.jpg,dQGUjYete6AsZ7Z72E0coA==,US,,1490815975 118848647,118850926,2017-03-29 19:34:01,">>118850714 The bricks have been laid. we must meme true Ancapistan into existence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490816041 118848647,118851192,2017-03-29 19:36:20,">>118848647 murican takeover for the night prolly a good idea. after keeping the threads up all day beside work i'm tired af ;D",,Anonymous,1490817995643.jpg,tvKv0no9/a6+XBeHyHKi9Q==,DE,,1490816180 118848647,118851373,2017-03-29 19:37:57,">>118851192 Right on bro. Thank you for spreading the good word of freedom.",,Anonymous,dude.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,US,,1490816277 118848647,118851402,2017-03-29 19:38:14,Come home white man.,,Anonymous,1489459183497.jpg,JgU0AXmRyb6JBGwqILKvQg==,US,,1490816294 118848647,118851820,2017-03-29 19:42:06,>>118851402,,Anonymous,1490805837759.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,DE,,1490816526 118848647,118851868,2017-03-29 19:42:31,humble helicopter merchant reporting in,,Anonymous,"51vCENMgFKL._SX398_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",pWrmIktxT4tdsXb9yGzEng==,US,,1490816551 118848647,118852428,2017-03-29 19:47:52,bump,,Anonymous,FNwff6f.jpg,PgmI4JXTqUnUkfq9486CwA==,US,,1490816872 118848647,118852987,2017-03-29 19:52:59,"serious question you guys: whats the deal with molyneux? is he /ourguy/ still? was he ever?",,Anonymous,1487519235649.png,TXI7gnpCOTNTwrRt8RGBVw==,US,,1490817179 118848647,118853703,2017-03-29 19:59:33,">>118850239 I think the important thing to remember is that Hoppe's ideas give very powerful reasons for reforming the US government. The system is to gradually shift people's POV away from being so statist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490817573 118848647,118853979,2017-03-29 20:02:07,removalpill me on physical removal,,Anonymous,1489811522868.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,US,,1490817727 118848647,118854645,2017-03-29 20:08:42,,,Anonymous,tmp_22090-tumblr_m4gf5lpY3O1rqrypho1_12801939965996.jpg,Uh14wkrIL7jo6Pf12uM61A==,US,,1490818122 118848647,118855014,2017-03-29 20:12:17,">>118853979 you own yourself and property. ""physical removal"" is the means of discrimination and protection from internal threats to your private covenant community. for example if you formed a covenant society with the goal of promoting family stucture, you could physically remove someone promoting homosexuality because the have broken a contractual agreement not to do so on your property. It is the proper response to violators of the Non-Agression Pact.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490818337 118849303,118849303,2017-03-29 19:19:24,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Save the freaking pastebin Edition,Anonymous,1490736838706.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,DE,,1490815164 118849303,118849429,2017-03-29 19:20:45,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490815245 118849303,118849433,2017-03-29 19:20:47,Have you realized your true beliefs yet?,,Anonymous,1488676209837.jpg,acW5tyxvrW2gxM2hS7zivg==,US,,1490815247 118849303,118849651,2017-03-29 19:22:45,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490815365 118849303,118849747,2017-03-29 19:23:48,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490815428 118849303,118849875,2017-03-29 19:24:58,">>118849303 Articles by Murray Rothbard >Race! That Murray Book https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Big-Government Libertarians https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html >More on LewRockwell.com https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/murray-n-rothbard/",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490815498 118849303,118850182,2017-03-29 19:27:45,>>118849433,,Anonymous,1490795304796.png,iqzx98vJg7OpJqn3M3lC+g==,DE,,1490815665 118849303,118850480,2017-03-29 19:30:13,">>118850182 Come home white man",,Anonymous,1490476672783.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1490815813 118849303,118850623,2017-03-29 19:31:30,"you goys >>118848647 dont spam threads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490815890 118849303,118850625,2017-03-29 19:31:31,">>118849303 SNEKS",,Anonymous,xt5l3br3gqax.png,hp3gptXZJZ+MFR99FpDU3Q==,US,,1490815891 118849303,118850897,2017-03-29 19:33:51,">>118850623 When I made the thread there was only the bullshit from the brainlet leaf and nothing else. Sorry. If the other thread is rollin', abandon this one",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490816031 118870870,118870870,2017-03-29 22:40:18,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, Agorism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc So /pol/ what are you doing to secure a free and prosperous future for yourself?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,AnCap,eJwNxcsNwyAMANBdGACD-dnZBhFEUiUFgXuKunv7Lu9Rn3mpTR0iY20A-7lKn7te0mduVbfe21XzOJcu_YYskstx17cswBQixZT-GXTReA_IaDhYF5iTZ4fBgPVEkcgisY_6NZr6_gDBQCKS.e8av3vb6ezV2Ij7odDZRANQRFhg.jpg,AqqJ6ePzqe0bITAhMaxndA==,BR,,1490827218 118870870,118870967,2017-03-29 22:41:11,">>118870870 GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,AnCap,ancap studies.jpg,lQf97SMk6d9hUmGBTyeTgw==,BR,,1490827271 118870870,118870993,2017-03-29 22:41:30,,,AnCap,AnCap.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,BR,,1490827290 118870870,118871019,2017-03-29 22:41:46,Life: stop aborting humans,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490827306 118870870,118871083,2017-03-29 22:42:22,,,Anonymous,1486700731004.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1490827342 118870870,118871235,2017-03-29 22:43:47,This is all a lot of information. What book should I read first?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490827427 118870870,118871409,2017-03-29 22:45:20,">>118871235 In your case, the constitution.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490827520 118870870,118871466,2017-03-29 22:45:56,"STATISTS GET THE FUCK OUT R E E E3 E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E EW E E E E E E E W E E E E E E E E E E DE E RE E E3 3 E E E E E E E E E E E E E E RE",,Anonymous,1482004993766.jpg,N1aIPnA6e4IrEeu38hv6JA==,US,,1490827556 118870870,118871603,2017-03-29 22:47:07,,,Anonymous,IMG_0389.png,r8bDNW81yvzVQoyyIewyTg==,US,,1490827627 118870870,118871624,2017-03-29 22:47:22,">>118871235 Anatomy of the State. Short, direct and redpill book.",,AnCap,,,BR,,1490827642 118870870,118871901,2017-03-29 22:49:43,">>118871409 What did you mean by this Texas? >>118871624 Thanks anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490827783 118870870,118872522,2017-03-29 22:55:33,">>118871901 You're welcome, burger friend.",,Anonymous,1489339646455.jpg,JyPW0Jo32hbIAUhzhrFWKQ==,BR,,1490828133 118870870,118872807,2017-03-29 22:58:19,/pol/ used to be mostly libertarian. Why did it recently become so in love with statism and authoritarianism?,,Anonymous,1349837264320.jpg,tdfk/p4dgRhnSBf06WMwBQ==,US,,1490828299 118870870,118872849,2017-03-29 22:58:38,">anticom That is a movement made by /pol/. Join the Discord. https://discord.gg/TKEd4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490828318 118870870,118872930,2017-03-29 22:59:16,">>118872807 Edgyness",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490828356 118870870,118872991,2017-03-29 22:59:47,">>118872522 Nice piece of propaganda dude, did you get that from Anticom? I saw him waving some kind of Pepe flag with two dudes from there. Anticom is pretty based.",,Anonymous,can you smoke weed in this game.jpg,AwI/uN58yHgROaYkNNVz/Q==,US,,1490828387 118870870,118873090,2017-03-29 23:00:33,">>118872807 Newfags, satire people and raids. Most of libertarians have family and work, they not stay all the time on 4chan.",,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,BR,,1490828433 118870870,118873363,2017-03-29 23:02:57,,,Anonymous,IMG_0391.png,UwEgI5kjnW5UGhN24uroJA==,US,,1490828577 118870870,118873412,2017-03-29 23:03:18,">>118872849 >>118872991 I entered in the server now. Thanks for the link.",,Anonymous,ancapisright.jpg,OxHjTRaxwO60gRvwx6BiIg==,BR,,1490828598 118870870,118873440,2017-03-29 23:03:38,"Libertarianism = selling out your country and people to jew banks. This is a National Socialist board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490828618 118870870,118873637,2017-03-29 23:05:39,">>118873440 You say socialist?",,Anonymous,1489607479555.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,BR,,1490828739 118870870,118873749,2017-03-29 23:06:51,">>118873440 NatSocs can buy an ethnostate. Everybody wins",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490828811 118870870,118873985,2017-03-29 23:09:16,">>118873440 Fuck you. We had a truce.",,Anonymous,IMG_0413.png,g/yNYfh1jm4aI7ckxUtMsQ==,US,,1490828956 118870870,118874043,2017-03-29 23:09:50,,,Anonymous,snek.gif,En4w89ZgogsndLKV/ufc1g==,BR,,1490828990 118870870,118874155,2017-03-29 23:11:02,"Bump. I always like to support Libertarian threads.",,Anonymous,IMG_0038.jpg,BYyrwVDZoN2lql3EI0CA3g==,US,,1490829062 118870870,118874238,2017-03-29 23:11:50,">>118873440 >>118873749 >>118873985",,Anonymous,ancap pol.png,cZeVEZapqSztvXxHVX6I7A==,BR,,1490829110 118870870,118874259,2017-03-29 23:12:03,Why do you guys want private borders? What stops said corporation(s) in charge of said border letting illegal immigrants for cheap labour?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490829123 118870870,118874261,2017-03-29 23:12:04,">>118873440 Fucking this libertarianism is the purest form of jewry",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490829124 118870870,118874329,2017-03-29 23:12:36,">>118870870 Pinochet when",,Anonymous,1487885779299.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,PT,,1490829156 118870870,118874369,2017-03-29 23:13:08,"https://twitter.com/AntiComToronto Any Canadians willing to join are more than welcome",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490829188 118870870,118874379,2017-03-29 23:13:11,">>118872991 Kek this is unirionically great. Have another humorous political campus picture, Anon.",,Anonymous,IMG_0041.jpg,3zvAeHkI3ttNTVrkgk3tPQ==,US,,1490829191 118870870,118874409,2017-03-29 23:13:29,">>118874155 >>118873440 >>118873749 >>118873985 >>118874155",,Anonymous,eJwNykEOhCAMAMC_8ABaSq3gbwgSNFEh0D1t9u_rYW7zNZ9xmc0cqn1uAPs5cxu7ndpGqsXW1upVUj-nze2GpJrycZdHJ5AIYyRcyUt0kaLAy8WwemT2CxFyAMdhQRL3JkTbn2p-f74rImo.WvrvYMo28joTiX-zXMtYQ-lfK7A.png,YVYe41zNT07hfgKQEznsYg==,BR,,1490829209 118870870,118874561,2017-03-29 23:15:06,">>118873985 >truce >with socialists",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490829306 118870870,118874656,2017-03-29 23:15:57,">>118870870 National Capitalist Reporting for duty. Who wants to give Communist free helicopter rides?",,Anonymous,1489746409389.jpg,gfYDVGzWkaILXGUXDQcyJA==,US,,1490829357 118870870,118874860,2017-03-29 23:17:48,,,Anonymous,1488369378859.jpg,nYYShZP03f7KdbJY4fJQ2Q==,BR,,1490829468 118870870,118875110,2017-03-29 23:20:08,">>118871466 did someone say roads?",,Anonymous,T3BUS.jpg,kdWbQL70zzloLU0NxigL2g==,US,,1490829608 118870870,118875318,2017-03-29 23:22:01,">>118874369 https://twitter.com/DCAntiCom DMV",,Anonymous,C70Zcz8VAAEVn5u.jpg,6wAiv785NdZbf6bxodGkbA==,US,,1490829721 118870870,118875376,2017-03-29 23:22:32,,,Anonymous,eJwFwdsNhCAQAMBeKIB9iItrNwQJmqgQ2Pu6XO8383WfcbvdnWZ97gDHNXMbh5_WRqrF19bqXVK_ps_tgWSW8vmU1yawSEBljLyIkrIKsKIEWVE3ooAYMQKFTWhhJFkp-P5W9_sDvUQiZg.XEr2h2SvPEKreG31TaukLvp1ICk.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,BR,,1490829752 118870870,118875483,2017-03-29 23:23:22,">>118874561 See >>118874238 and >>118874409 I don't like it, but it has to be this way for now.",,Anonymous,IMG_0411.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1490829802 118870870,118875509,2017-03-29 23:23:43,">>118872991 i am conflicted i think the purple and blue are better in the picture you posted, but the red is significantly better in mine any paint wizards here wanna try to find an image of the red from mine and throw it into that one",,Anonymous,1488402131439.jpg,FFz6ijOUGwnzpVNfmpdArA==,US,,1490829823 118870870,118875517,2017-03-29 23:23:47,">>118874369 >>118875318 Based leafs.",,Anonymous,1488134919437s.jpg,q8MYJ9ZPB8LO90U3WfQUXA==,BR,,1490829827 118870870,118875591,2017-03-29 23:24:23,">>118874656 >NAP >helicopters McGas yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490829863 118870870,118875903,2017-03-29 23:27:19,">>118875318 >>118874369 Nice",,Anonymous,xt5l3br3gqax.png,hp3gptXZJZ+MFR99FpDU3Q==,US,,1490830039 118870870,118876105,2017-03-29 23:28:55,anyone know where I could get some gear to scare commies with?,,Anonymous,1490387505340.jpg,FlSH1OHZ0nnUAsD2+dLcUg==,US,,1490830135 118870870,118876257,2017-03-29 23:30:52,,,Anonymous,d0a517afbd5ae6ee0728f8174c1cbe2c41b499cf5cfde0de475eab431b8dee42_1.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,BR,,1490830252 118870870,118876417,2017-03-29 23:31:48,">>118876105 https://jamesconey.wixsite.com/rightwingpatchsquad also directly supports on of /ourguys/",,Anonymous,C78h55GWsAAsoLL.jpg,xXpkSB0Knl0P/F3bXpeUGw==,US,,1490830308 118870870,118876444,2017-03-29 23:32:03,">>118876105 any hardware store carries the necessary wood, painters masks, safety glasses, and hard hats",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490830323 118870870,118876611,2017-03-29 23:33:21,,,Anonymous,hoppean removal now.jpg,d9GFGY1Y+gt+6L78F2Xijg==,BR,,1490830401 118870870,118876628,2017-03-29 23:33:32,">>118876105 What kind of gear, anon?",,Anonymous,IMG_0509.jpg,di2HNwDXDFu+gaQA5GWHQQ==,US,,1490830412 118870870,118876649,2017-03-29 23:33:40,">>118876417 Freaking awesome >>118876444 Checked. I plan on getting what you listed, but wanted ancap colors and shit to go with",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490830420 118870870,118876677,2017-03-29 23:33:56,">>118875110 because then the roads wouldn't be held in collective and you could capitalize on the one only super highway to the big city because you built it. I agree with free markets but you have to ensure your people are alive for there to even be a market at all. The state isn't always your enemy you know. But now about the thing we should be worrying about... >pic related",,Anonymous,1490319578823.jpg,Yz1Dub9TRkaEX6haEK1IZQ==,US,,1490830436 118870870,118876705,2017-03-29 23:34:08,>>118876257,,Anonymous,1490566163055.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1490830448 118870870,118876994,2017-03-29 23:36:54,">>118870870 Can someone give me a Rundown/summary on hoppe Libertarianism?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490830614 118870870,118877167,2017-03-29 23:38:33,>>118876257,,Anonymous,1489175053858.png,dxwFEQ0xuyVCr1UEfqetrQ==,PT,,1490830713 118870870,118877215,2017-03-29 23:38:59,">>118876994 same thing as regular libertarianism but you can enforce borders while the state is being withered away and remove communists from your property after the state has been smashed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490830739 118870870,118877326,2017-03-29 23:40:00,">>118872807 >>118873090 This is pretty ironic. /pol/ only ever had a sudden rise in Libertarian views being expressed because Ron Paul seemed like he had a real chance of winning the Republican Primaries in 2012. He did well in the debates, had tons of support across racial lines, and was polling well. Him being a far more reputable man than any actual Republican made him the obvious choice. Then the RNC robbed him of the nomination, Romney lost, and the rest is history. Prior to all of this Libertarians were never the majority presence. Both previous incarnations of /pol/ were shut down because they were fully NatSoc, and that made moot butthurt. The original /n/ was shut down, then /new/ was shut down after he brought it back the first time. None of us ever left, and we were right here on day 1 when /pol/ was made. It only came about because we incessantly lobbied for it. Resorting to pathetic revisionism while calling someone else a newfag is just comical.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490830800 118870870,118877508,2017-03-29 23:41:48,">>118876994 democracy is a soft variant of communism monarchism is better but not good enough immigration is impossible when all land is privately owned democrats and socialists will be forcefully removed only the body is directly owned, everything else is assigned by first come first serve and can be passed down through generation or sold anti-discrimination laws and property rights are not reconcilable, you have one or the other",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490830908 118870870,118877560,2017-03-29 23:42:19,">>118877326 Libertarians that are redpilled on the race question are also a good ally to Nazis because they stand against cultural marxism. Also nazis have good memes. There's no reason to fight right-wing libertarians who just want to live in a peaceful propertarian society amongst whites, which is basically what Hitler wanted after the war.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490830939 118870870,118877876,2017-03-29 23:45:23,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_FdeYvub6U,,Anonymous,,,PE,,1490831123 118870870,118878058,2017-03-29 23:47:06,,,Anonymous,IMG_0397.png,8qrY7AT3qV81b8uirt+m7A==,US,,1490831226 118870870,118878129,2017-03-29 23:47:44,">>118876705 Saved. >>118877167",,Anonymous,1488127534146.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,BR,,1490831264 118870870,118878511,2017-03-29 23:51:25,">>118878058 Please excuse the watermark, my good man.",,Anonymous,IMG_0393.jpg,hYhSqQ5bN8YOzbZnBHgLOw==,US,,1490831485 118870870,118879050,2017-03-29 23:56:08,,,Anonymous,Ancap+chick+ancap+chick_c69957_5648884.jpg,jOz5edPUrj7En2reUkxhdQ==,BR,,1490831768 118870870,118879106,2017-03-29 23:56:39,,,Anonymous,1488783709299.jpg,dmVI+rJg8/v/57PGmN//zQ==,BR,,1490831799 118870870,118879167,2017-03-29 23:57:16,,,Anonymous,AnCap RothGirl youtube channel.jpg,wN50MeEUr0yCIK/1yVwHWg==,BR,,1490831836 118870870,118879254,2017-03-29 23:58:02,">>118877560 I have no real issue with people who genuinely want a society that provides the most possible individual liberty. Thats a noble pursuit, might be a foolish one when it comes to practical outcomes, but its a noble one regardless. Issue is that Libertarian has become an umbrella term for basic bitch Liberal who has some conservative fiscal views. We saw it with Gary Johnson virtue signaling about illegal immigrants during his dead fish of a campaign. It is all well and good to remove financial incentives for illegal immigrants as a means of keeping them out, but that isn't enough in practice. The mere fact that we offer a better quality of life is an incentive to illegally cross our border and seek residence here. Without use of force there is no strong security. A nation must have a state capable of acting on behalf of the collective best interests. The question of land ownership itself is something that you cannot simply say would be solved if all were private property. The soil of a country is its natural treasure. Our protected forests, parks, wild life reserves, if those were private property then their existence would be in the hands of individuals who could destroy them in the name of profit. The free market doesn't fix a landmark being lost. Liberty has to be tempered by protection, and with purpose. For generations of Americans not yet born. Take a good look around the web, find all the Libertarian communities you can. They're dying, and the ones that are left are filled with ideologues who reject the notion of race, and will tell you that given equal opportunity everyone would perform equally. They don't care what the face of America looks like, or who its people are. If someone is espousing the rhetoric of your enemy, then they're your enemy. T",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490831882 118870870,118879306,2017-03-29 23:58:32,,,Anonymous,AnCapXAnCom.png,jFSJ6p6V9GRVxIujIw024w==,BR,,1490831912 118870870,118879356,2017-03-29 23:58:52,>>118879050,,Anonymous,1490724770830.gif,OPrC3+KqyEbmHZ1XikShfQ==,US,,1490831932 118870870,118879574,2017-03-30 00:00:48,">>118879254 Anyone who believes Gary ""Cuck"" Johnson is a real libertarian must not know what a true libertarian is. However, I'm a big Rand Paul supporter. Do I receive the Libertarian seal of approval? Pic kind of related.",,Anonymous,IMG_0298.png,5dEbHUnxlul0zWjThmKM/w==,US,,1490832048 118870870,118879589,2017-03-30 00:00:54,"Who has the giant ancap snek that's saying ""I AM WHAT IS NEC-HISS-ARY"" while looking down on a tiny man standing on top of a political compass chart? I scrolled through the entire Hoppean Snake Memes kikebook page and didn't see it, it's a quality work of art.",,Anonymous,1466745567456.jpg,/MeLKwCSOQERKGYpCaOctw==,US,,1490832054 118870870,118879836,2017-03-30 00:03:10,">>118879254 >Our protected forests, parks, wild life reserves, if those were private property then their existence would be in the hands of individuals who could destroy them in the name of profit. You're starting to sound like a leftist, can I interest you in a free helicopter ride?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490832190 118870870,118879908,2017-03-30 00:03:59,">>118879254 >Our protected forests, parks, wild life reserves, if those were private property then their existence would be in the hands of individuals who could destroy them in the name of profit You're a fool if you think the State doesn't do the same",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490832239 118870870,118880094,2017-03-30 00:05:41,,,Anonymous,il_570xN.770468522_2j7s.jpg,9w16fA0WRLzA3kR0vg1/iA==,BR,,1490832341 118870870,118880217,2017-03-30 00:06:47,,,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,PXA+Y4okZDO9UvRSDQx8IQ==,BR,,1490832407 118870870,118880348,2017-03-30 00:07:59,"I'm pretty much a closed-border Libertarian (Ron Paul, not Gary Johnson) that could be all for anarchy, except I feel that it would create a power vacuum that would likely be filled by a bunch of control freak assholes. I also feel that I would do just fine in a world with no government, but I wonder about the less able of my friends and family. Ideas?",,Anonymous,Paine.jpg,wcUAlzBvO+2Ku0A73CEuvA==,US,,1490832479 118870870,118880351,2017-03-30 00:08:00,"To keep a nation connected and well maintained a strong nationalistic Authoritarian government is needed to stamp out degenerates and the 5th column, anything else but the eradication of freedoms which hurt society will end with it's destruction. (Natsoc has far more rights then Libertarians usually think) Without the support of a strong government the moral/racial core of a society will degenerate. Cutting welfare does not stop this in the slightest, in fact it may even increase with the destruction of the few moral laws we have left in place, Gay Marriage,drug laws etc. As we all know communities form and naturally leaders are elected to represent these communities from a simple hunter/gather tribe to the Roman Republic giving temporary full control over all matters during troubled times to a singe man. A strong Government is just the natural progress of human nature once the nation grows to better distribute resourcecs for the greater good of the ""tribe"" as human society is full of famines,war and genocides humans are animals and still subject to a majority of the laws of animals. Tribalism is built into our psyche it's why Black kids play with Black kids, Blue birds fly with Blue birds and why people get so excited over international sporting games. The rule of Might makes Right is still very much alive in today's society Ukraine is weak compared to Russia. Tibet to China the Confederate states to the North and Democratic Athens to Authoritarian Sparta. All throughout history the Strong have done what they can and the Weak suffered what they must A Libertarian society is the weaker of these in a industrialized nation in a world where even the concept of ""total war"" exists where every resource and persons must be allocated correctly to survive, this is not a 18th century colonial nation where you can just move West some more and start up your own shop. A libertarian society will Balkanise the United States creating a power vacuum between all over powers.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490832480 118870870,118880564,2017-03-30 00:09:52,">>118870870 Why do lolbertarians think they are right wing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490832592 118870870,118880751,2017-03-30 00:11:37,">>118879574 I don't think Rand really lives up to his father's image. Ron was a one in a billion guy who actually lived his life by his virtues. He was a humble man with a good heart trying to do what was right and just. Rand is more of a mainstream GOP figure. He seems like the type of guy who would flex his principles to play ball. >>118879836 Nice meme, kid. I absolutely guarantee that on most issues you're to the extreme left of me. If you're not willing to preserve your kind and creed then you're a kike faggot. >>118879908 They managed to do a good job of it for decades while the nation still held a white super majority. Its not a coincidence that bureaucracy increases as you increase the number of low agency low responsibility minorities in positions of power. If you think it acceptable for some crypto Jews like the Koch brothers to buy up huge swaths of land to deforest it, eradicate native wild life, and permanently change the landscape of this country then you have no moral compass. If your ideological center is not rooted in the dirt and clay that comprises America you have no right to call yourself American. America isn't a fucking name. It is a country. It is a nation. These things need to be kept and maintained by men of good conscience.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490832697 118870870,118880833,2017-03-30 00:12:16,>Why does her age matter if she consents?,,Anonymous,579.png,nqihCfWszie7T1HcHO45zA==,US,,1490832736 118870870,118880913,2017-03-30 00:13:03,">>118870870 Reminder Libertarianism is a Jewish psyop to control both sides of the debate and diminish Catholic social teaching, which teaches that (((usury))) is a sin.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490832783 118870870,118880947,2017-03-30 00:13:23,">>118874409 nazis really arent reasonable. Last time they ran a powerful country, they nearly destroyed the world",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490832803 118870870,118881080,2017-03-30 00:14:31,">>118880751 >If you're not willing to preserve your kind and creed then you're a kike faggot. >he says, while defending national parks t. tree",,Anonymous,1490188316506.jpg,JEO5pqfovUeQ/73Sz/SKMg==,US,,1490832871 118870870,118881105,2017-03-30 00:14:43,">>118880348 watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o >>118880751 >wants stateless society and property rights, discrimination, extreme capitalism, physical removal >environmentalist thinks I'm extreme left in comparison kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490832883 118870870,118881163,2017-03-30 00:15:19,AnarchoCapitalism only works in high IQ populations with high social capital and high social trust. Low IQ populations work better under authoritarianism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490832919 118870870,118881299,2017-03-30 00:16:41,">>118881080 he shot himself in the foot larping as a nazi when he brought up environmentalism bit. there's no coming back from that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833001 118870870,118881462,2017-03-30 00:18:09,">>118880913 Ok, If globalism is a Jewish trick, and Libertarianism is a Jewish psyop, what form of government isn't Jewish controlled? >inb4 natsoc Israel is a great example of natsoc",,Anonymous,angryshlomo.jpg,raOqqS7w7JCpqBWLwTKbQg==,US,,1490833089 118870870,118881581,2017-03-30 00:19:13,">>118870870 WHERE TO COP THAT FUCKING SHIRT",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833153 118870870,118881601,2017-03-30 00:19:23,"who here /closedborderslibertarian/? Don't care about the color of someone's skin or their religion or sexuality, but if they try to take me freedumz they can have my bullets first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833163 118870870,118881613,2017-03-30 00:19:28,">>118881462 Catholic monarchy obviously",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833168 118870870,118881724,2017-03-30 00:20:34,">>118881613 depends on who you ask",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833234 118870870,118881885,2017-03-30 00:22:16,">>118881462 Jews are irrelevant. The best form is a catholic theocratic monarchy, or something like the southern european catholic fascism in Spain.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490833336 118870870,118882007,2017-03-30 00:23:34,">>118881462 Natsoc is not Jewish controlled otherwise the Jews wouldn't of pushed for the extermination of the Germans their political ideology which had threatened the international bankers and Corporations profits Any race may be natsoc just so you know. if Africans got their shit together they could be National Socialists. Your ignorance on the topic is painful. Israel is also not fucking natsoc",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490833414 118870870,118882132,2017-03-30 00:24:49,">>118881885 You're going to have a hard time convincing a recovering Catholic that hates the idea of monarchy of that one.",,Anonymous,jebdisapproves.gif,aoq4H4WNXTyV2s+AishVaw==,US,,1490833489 118870870,118882452,2017-03-30 00:28:06,">>118881080 I'll restate what I've already said: If your ideological center is not rooted in the dirt and clay that comprises America you have no right to call yourself American. America isn't a fucking name. It is a country. It is a nation. These things need to be kept and maintained by men of good conscience. Liberty has to be tempered by protection, and with purpose. For generations of Americans not yet born. >>118881105 If I had a dollar for every time a ""Libertarian"" proved they have no idea what left or right ideologies are there'd be no more national debt. Your fantasy AnCap ideologies are not far right, they are protectionist centrist. The fact that so many of you meme spouting children get this wrong proves you're not well read. The fundamental basis for your beliefs is weak internet blogs, and youtube celebrities. What conservative means fundamentally is conservation. It is traditionalism, it is reactionary. Preserving vital resources for the people. Protecting them from wolves in sheep's clothing who would do long term harm to the nation. Preserving the identity and heritage of the people, and the land itself is part of the people's heritage that is passed down to future generations. If you cannot come to terms with these concepts that you are not conservative. You are extremely left of me. >>118881299 Ah, the tried and true ""I didn't make an argument but I'll claim victory by proxy"" tactic. Really top tier stuff you're regurgitating there. >>118881462 He said its a psyop because it dooms itself to fail, and is already entirely subverted. Things with no chance of succeeding that lure in droves of unsuspecting people to stop them from effecting real change is pretty much what every psyop hopes to be. The only functional Libertarian society would be an ethnically homogeneous one wherein everyone was high IQ, educated, held traditional western values, and had no outside threats whatsoever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833686 118870870,118882479,2017-03-30 00:28:24,This internet privacy bill got me curious. In a stateless society what is there to prevent people from buying and selling your private information?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833704 118870870,118882704,2017-03-30 00:30:38,">>118881613 how fucking stupid can you be? the english catholic monarchy are the entire fucking reason the jews came into power in yurop. just fuck off you blue pilled shit eating retard. what the fuck is wrong with you? don't give me that expulsion edict shit either. the damage was already done and the jews never left, they just went underground and a couple decades later the kikes were back to their old schemes, the monarchy enabling them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833838 118870870,118882717,2017-03-30 00:30:49,">>118881163 Authoritarianism is a cause of low intelligence, not a symptom, and so it keeps itself going.",,Anonymous,fort.png,LAhVM6itNDd0dL28xo08bg==,US,,1490833849 118870870,118882752,2017-03-30 00:31:09,">>118882479 market competition",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833869 118870870,118882824,2017-03-30 00:31:51,">>118882007 natsoc is a form of collectivism, and I'm an individualist. I think forced collectivism beyond the collectivism spelled out in the US Constitution is fucking awful, and you can tell me how ignorant I am on the topic, but you will never convince me that an alleged good idea (natsoc or anything else) needs to be forced on people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833911 118870870,118882845,2017-03-30 00:32:04,">>118882479 Le nap meme Just hire your private military company to fight his private militarily company. Ancap makes it sound real say it for what it is. Anarchism Capitalism. Yeah Anarchy always works Or the fact you forgot to read the 300th page on the coca cola contract meant they can now sell all your info",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490833924 118870870,118882909,2017-03-30 00:32:44,">>118880913 the catholic monarchy allowed jews to lend money though so instead of usury being within the power of the catholics, they let the jews control the money lending. you're so fucking stupid, nigger. catholicism is a jew tool",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490833964 118870870,118882985,2017-03-30 00:33:22,">>118882704 >English >Catholic Anon pls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834002 118870870,118883047,2017-03-30 00:34:07,">>118882452 my post about you being a tree was a joke, but >If your ideological center is not rooted in the dirt and clay that comprises America you have no right to call yourself American. that's dumb as fuck and you can't tell me what my rights are you bootlicker fuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834047 118870870,118883083,2017-03-30 00:34:34,">>118882985 you are so fucking DUMB",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834074 118870870,118883208,2017-03-30 00:36:00,">>118882824 Natsoc has collectivism but just being collectivist does not make you natsoc in the slightest. Your hurting my brain with how uninformed on Natsoc you are right now. Pic related Next time you see a /nsg/ thread please go in and ask questions if you wish to understand the ideology not from a retards view because that's what your doing right now",,Anonymous,adolf_hitler_on_his_definition_of_socialism_by_yamalama1986-d8o8jlu.png.jpg,5mHlYCqCDKaxVgmKTCNzdQ==,AU,,1490834160 118870870,118883357,2017-03-30 00:37:26,">>118883208 >nazis didn't give up their individuality kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834246 118870870,118883395,2017-03-30 00:37:49,">>118882985 bait",,Anonymous,1481709315599.png,CXmAswfi5/Zqq5pflg/GVA==,US,,1490834269 118870870,118883472,2017-03-30 00:38:36,">>118883357 We're collectivists! But we're also individualists! It-it makes sense. kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834316 118870870,118883611,2017-03-30 00:40:19,">>118882752 >when connected to the internet you are connected to dozens if not hundreds of computers that belong to other individuals and corporations >every transaction leaves a trace >you have no inherent right to this, because it is not yours. >you are using someone elses hardware, infrastructure, and service >every single link in the chain has the right to record data of you passing through and do with it what they wish >this information has inherent value for marketing and aggregate analytics for all kinds of research and government uses >this produces a great amount of revenue >You think that an ISP which chooses not to sell this data would out perform a larger one which generates more revenue >even while ignoring the fact that every other entity you connect to through your ISP also has the same data they can sell Libertarians cannot tackle the internet whatsoever. There is no free market answer here, nothing aside from a state body imposing laws for consumer protection would stop these companies from harvesting your data. >>118883047 The fact that you can't address any of these issues, that you can do nothing but meme and shitpost, that proves my case. I've come across hundreds of you. Early 20s something basic bitch when it comes to politics. Liked Ron Paul and wanted to be edgy so you started calling yourself a Libertarian. Your knowledge of politic is nil. If your views are at odds with the best interests of America and the American people then you don't get to call yourself an American. You're on the exact same philosophical level as a Cold War era KGB agent disseminated Communist propaganda through left leaning media figures. You would destroy what this nation is at its core. Lots of you lefty kikes have that in common. What a coincidence. Must be in your semite blood.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834419 118870870,118883745,2017-03-30 00:41:49,">>118882452 AnCap is...""protectionist""? Are you literally fucking retarded? And centrist? Wew fucking lad you are clueless to highest degree. Do some basic fucking research on what ancap even is before you spout of your nonsense you natsoc fool. ""Muh land, muh forests, muh aryan spirit, muh *other leftist nonsense*"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834509 118870870,118883858,2017-03-30 00:43:02,">>118883611 Im guessing your internet data would be considered intellectual property, which some do not consider to be real property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834582 118870870,118883898,2017-03-30 00:43:25,">>118883357 >>118883472 Own Business Own Property Own Guns Invest in land Defend your property Get Rich Freedom of religion T-they're evil my 10th grade history teacher and the NRA said Hitler took all the guns. (Wrong) he actually opened up gun ownership to more people",,Anonymous,1489468864298.jpg,JGduHB52+0jnpP8MXIyX6w==,AU,,1490834605 118870870,118883989,2017-03-30 00:44:24,">>118883745 it's d&c larping from the left, it's obvious when he slipped about the environment. it's probably the same leafer on a vpn desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834664 118870870,118884085,2017-03-30 00:45:19,">>118883611 everything in your reply to me was incorrect. from your assessment of me, to your definition of american, to your strawman about KGB agents. what the fuck is wrong with you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834719 118870870,118884145,2017-03-30 00:45:59,">>118872807 Libertarian front with fashy core. I know how your feeling, I was hardcore libertarian up until about this time last year. Turns out I hate commies and Libertarianism preaches a little too much indifference for my taste. I am a man of action, and securing the boarders is step one (something disregarded in AnCap)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490834759 118870870,118884265,2017-03-30 00:47:25,">>118883898 How is all that different from Libertarianism, except that natsoc uses force to get to the same place? I've become a single issue voter, less government. The government fucks up everything they do, and I want them to have less power, not more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490834845 118870870,118884569,2017-03-30 00:50:29,">""should the government....."" >""No"" >Libertarian explained",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490835029 118870870,118884581,2017-03-30 00:50:43,">>118883745 The irony here is painful. You're so ignorant that your entire world view is centered around the DFL and GOP when it comes to left and right. >>118883858 If you want to make the determination that intellectual property is different from physical property, you'd have to have a triple digit IQ, kid. Fundamentally a letter in an envelope is no different from a packet of data moving through a wire. The media the information is being transferred in doesn't change what it is. If you want personally identifiable information to be protected you need to argue for parcels in the mail to be protected in the same way. It requires consumer protection laws to prevent other parties handling these transactions from seeing what you're sending and receiving. >>118884085 You do nothing but shitpost and espouse views that are fundamentally destructive to the country. If you want anyone to believe you're not a kike then you're doing a bad job of it. >>118883989 Shitposting in place of a real argument is the dead give away that you role playing Libertarians are intellectually empty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490835043 118870870,118884759,2017-03-30 00:52:41,">>118879589 Here you go. I have most of the old ones if you have other requests.",,Anonymous,nesshissary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,US,,1490835161 118870870,118884806,2017-03-30 00:53:11,">>118881581 https://usurybrand.com/collections/featured/products/anti-communist-action-mens-t-shirt",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490835191 118870870,118884952,2017-03-30 00:54:45,">>118884581 No it isnt actually. You still havent explained how ancapism is protectionist. GO AHEAD, TRY. >If you want to make the determination that intellectual property is different from physical property, you'd have to have a triple digit IQ, kid. Fundamentally a letter in an envelope is no different from a packet of data moving through a wire. The media the information is being transferred in doesn't change what it is. If you want personally identifiable information to be protected you need to argue for parcels in the mail to be protected in the same way. It requires consumer protection laws to prevent other parties handling these transactions from seeing what you're sending and receiving. I dont think internet data is property at all, i was just offering an explanation. And you dont need the state to protect your data. Mail delivery services used to be private businesses with private guards, the market can come up with a way for private companies to protect people's data against unauthorized access.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490835285 118870870,118885269,2017-03-30 00:58:00,>>118870870,,Anonymous,welcome-to-new-hampshire-french.jpg,K+16eglmnq3r8ned1tkYQA==,US,,1490835480 118870870,118885300,2017-03-30 00:58:22,">>118884581 stop getting so angry lefty, do you need more statism and gibs to quench your pastie white angst?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490835502 118870870,118885320,2017-03-30 00:58:33,">>118884952 If your policy revolves around property rights being held sacred then guess what: Your model of government at its core has protectionist views",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490835513 118870870,118885489,2017-03-30 01:00:16,">>118885320 reeeeeeeeeeeeee eee eeeee e e e",,Anonymous,6740a1f322504fdbbfe8eabfa7a6c014.jpg,E3gm87CYkiQx2vHhutpRRQ==,US,,1490835616 118870870,118885556,2017-03-30 01:01:02,">>118885320 You dont know the definition of the word protectionism in this context you dullard. It applies to the state favoring certain entities while stifling others, thereby ""protecting"" the economic interests of one entity over another. There is not protectionism in a free market. Unless you think protectionism means defending your private property, just because the root of the word is ""protect""? In that case you really are an ignorant idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490835662 118870870,118885586,2017-03-30 01:01:18,">>118872807 Evolution.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490835678 118870870,118885901,2017-03-30 01:04:29,">>118885556 A mass of individuals have no rights whatsoever. Rights are not natural, they only exist in the realm of law. The realm of law only exists where a government can exert its authority. For you to have any property rights whatsoever means a government has to deem it so. It would mean that the individual has to be protected by the state vs other market forces. You are not read at all on this matter. Everything you post comes from ignorance so gross it edges on violent stupidity. >>118885489 Just admit you're anti-white.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490835869 118870870,118885907,2017-03-30 01:04:31,">>118885300 It's time to get out the doll.",,Anonymous,snekdoll.png,KDWvPiptOS7ZXjbkmT0Fww==,US,,1490835871 118870870,118886000,2017-03-30 01:05:26,"You sure do realize that your ""system"" is never going to come true.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490835926 118870870,118886741,2017-03-30 01:13:01,">>118885901 Individuals have rights, because you need to use force in order to take them away, therefore by default they are there. I have the right for example to say whatever I want, and the only way a statist cuck like you can stop me is with violence. The only way I can stop you from using violence to infringe upon my rights is to use violence in self defense. You dont need a state in order to have laws, its called common law. Private entities can come to an agreement on how to do things, you dont need a state for that. Force can be exerted by private entities just as well as by a state, because a state is nothing more than an entity that has a monopoly on force. The government doesnt give me property rights, it only infringes upon them you fucking idiot. If i go into the woods and work on some piece of land and build a house there, thats my fucking property out to the point where the land hasnt been worked on by me to increase its value. The govt will just swoop in and demand I have permits and that I need to pay such and such fees, etc. You seriously have no idea what you are talking about, you clearly havent even read the most basic explanations of ancapism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490836381 118870870,118887308,2017-03-30 01:18:51,">>118870870 I live in south Texas and I'm a traditionalist free-market capitalist. How do I get involved in the community? It's mostly liberal Mexicans or conservative rich people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490836731 118870870,118887670,2017-03-30 01:22:29,">>118886741 A right is not synonymous with having the capacity to do something. It means you have authority to do, authority is derived from a hierarchical power structure. In a stable society this is a government. Whether an individual inherently has all rights or zero rights is meaningless thought experiment. You cannot prove a right exists unless you can argue it, and the only apt venue to argue such a thing is a court of law. Laws only exist under the authority of a governing structure. Rights are not based on mutual consent. You're blindly regurgitating rhetoric with no understanding whatsoever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490836949 118870870,118889481,2017-03-30 01:40:22,">>118870870 >the only ones who actually did physically remove communists are not welcome in this thread",,Anonymous,1483064664909.jpg,7gSXto96YLXj2N3S5Dfccg==,HR,,1490838022 118870870,118889540,2017-03-30 01:40:53,>>118880913,,Anonymous,1489490771918.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,BR,,1490838053 118870870,118890434,2017-03-30 01:51:06,">>118885586 Bolsominion ""right"" side detect.",,Anonymous,47606fc4521f1b00da1537043bfedd6863019f3c0bf063c40790852dd4ead231_1.jpg,WHutw/7ZtxE7uCG0kMD5ow==,BR,,1490838666 118870870,118890444,2017-03-30 01:51:10,">hey guys we hate statism and big government >but we will resort to national identity and large central power to remove the social degenerates >implying social conservatism can exist without resorting to a large central power (inevitably) because you also allow those same degenerates freedoms and rights So if you limit the ""rights"" of the degenerates, you cannot have ""liberty"" or claim to be below the horizontal line. There can be no government or state; because of this, national identity will cease to exist as the unifying factors are spurned for rampant hedonistic individualism.",,Anonymous,1461394592023.jpg,Fjc+1rmjMKyYacdb/2ARjQ==,CA,,1490838670 118870870,118890938,2017-03-30 01:57:04,">>118890444 >A FUCKING LEAF",,Anonymous,1489603250889.png,JYDiRjz1AhOEWrhymAkgpA==,BR,,1490839024 118870870,118890966,2017-03-30 01:57:32,">>118890938 Nice argument >A fucking Shitskin",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490839052 118870870,118891071,2017-03-30 01:58:42,">>118889540 Oh my where die this Chilean army song come from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXZqnCnfPY0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6oDnm43HA",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490839122 118870870,118891287,2017-03-30 02:01:21,">>118890938 How can you both be for a large central power protecting the social conservatism of a people, but be anarchists? The lack of order and duty will lead to your downfall.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490839281 118870870,118891450,2017-03-30 02:03:29,">>118890444 >trips observed individual innate rights exist. communism has failed at every attempt. anarcho-capitalism may be possible, but if it's attempted in one fell swoop, mass chaos will ensue. for the time being i'm happy to settle with trump style minarchism. do you disagree?",,Anonymous,mao-murder.jpg,7Z9R6ugPpUvF2AbLeo2Mfw==,US,,1490839409 118870870,118891871,2017-03-30 02:08:50,">>118891450 >individual innate rights exist. No, the concept of ""human rights"" do not exist. There is no such thing as rights, for they are only as powerful as those who hold them true. What exists is the hierarchy of the mighty who allow rights to, say, minorities or whatever. If a more powerful entity arrives and re-establishes the hierarchy in its favour, some mystical, incorporeal ""concept"" of human rights does not stop it, for the rights are only as powerful as those who have power. What exists is the mighty and the weak. Ask yourself, why has your nation limited the ""right"" to bear arms if it is innate? They should have been ""stopped"" when they tried to pervert it, but that does not happen because they are (temporarily) more powerful. >for the time being i'm happy to settle with trump style minarchism. No, all forms of libertarianism is cancer. Communism and capitalism are two sides of the same Jewish coin. Under capitalism, BLACKED porno stores can open freely and subvert the traditions of the people because ""hey, that's the free market, goy!"" National Socialism is the only solution, as a minarchist ""state"" will not be permitted to physically remove the degenerates, if we wish to operate within the limited power of a state under a minarchy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490839730 118870870,118892842,2017-03-30 02:20:12,">>118891871 rights exist as long as their holders defend those rights. this applies to the right to bear arms regardless of jurisdiction or country. >Communism and capitalism are two sides of the same Jewish coin do you propose an alternative? capitalism is proven to work. changing the subject to porn is a red herring.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490840412 118870870,118892969,2017-03-30 02:21:47,,,Anonymous,1480521653673.jpg,ujK7FxgNOErEWfzGDuzjAw==,BR,,1490840507 118870870,118893180,2017-03-30 02:24:35,,,Anonymous,fdsfdsfsdf.png,SneNglwubw8GNKejCvOC5Q==,BR,,1490840675 118870870,118893314,2017-03-30 02:26:15,">>118892969 All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490840775 118870870,118893337,2017-03-30 02:26:32,">>118890966 >>118891071 The aussie commie in closet, everyone knows who you are, very easy. Whenever someone sees the flag of australia and an anon posting crap of a typical bitter failure, we know it's you.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490840792 118870870,118893374,2017-03-30 02:26:54,>mfw I see a stormcuck or a gommie,,Anonymous,1490571819772.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1490840814 118870870,118893425,2017-03-30 02:27:34,">>118891450 >trump style minarchism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490840854 118870870,118893471,2017-03-30 02:28:09,,,Anonymous,1489348783642.jpg,SVoN1hZx2iUEv8o6YCLh4A==,BR,,1490840889 118870870,118893654,2017-03-30 02:30:28,">>118893425 i'm just a pragmatic ancap. lay off. one thing at a time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490841028 118870870,118893755,2017-03-30 02:31:45,">>118884806 You are a gentleman and a scholar",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490841105 118870870,118893765,2017-03-30 02:31:57,">>118883745 You will find nothing but ignorance in these shills.",,Anonymous,guide to deal with shills.jpg,i78fZDn0OI15zcjBweBlxw==,US,,1490841117 118870870,118893890,2017-03-30 02:33:44,">>118892842 >rights exist as long as their holders defend those rights. Correct, that's my point when I say ""There is no such thing as rights, for they are only as powerful as those who hold them true"". Once you fail to secure them, they cease to exist. >do you propose an alternative? capitalism is proven to work. Not socially, it deteriorates the will of a society and allows for the same perversion of social conservatism Hoppe warns of. Financially, absolutely. What good is all the wealth in the world when your nation has sold its people's labour out to the Third World? >changing the subject to porn is a red herring. Not discussing the topic of porn in an isolated manner, but discussing the consequences of porn IN THE FREE MARKET.",,Anonymous,1490045502928.jpg,J+uc+kWyTBPXGVWVPifybg==,CA,,1490841224 118870870,118894085,2017-03-30 02:36:41,">>118893890 are you saying nobody defends their rights?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490841401 118870870,118894095,2017-03-30 02:36:48,">>118893337 >Aussie communist When I would line communists up or put them into camps. Nice arguement Protip throwing out political opponents out of helicopters when the democratically elected party gets couped by the head of the military is not a free society, it is Authoritarian Butthurt Brazilian monkeys have no pride, or nationalism outside of kicking a ball around so he resorts to being a greedy kike. I would be a libertarian too if my society was a shithole full of niggers and 2nd world Spanish rape babies whit no cultural relevance, high art or anything to be proud of at all.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490841408 118870870,118894125,2017-03-30 02:37:08,">>118870870 Post then one about Love, Life, and Anarchy becoming a literal self-described Fascist after finishing his Jewish Question series. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o",,Anonymous,1490798506877-pol.jpg,m1z2BXcpcWBTYSpI5aLdAw==,US,,1490841428 118870870,118894177,2017-03-30 02:38:02,">>118872807 Because it got rid of its cultural autism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490841482 118870870,118894245,2017-03-30 02:39:01,"How autistic is the N.A.P.? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUZrDX5P7A",,Anonymous,1490798860355-pol.jpg,1lM5K7LOjRh55pbyuEhmbA==,US,,1490841541 118870870,118894374,2017-03-30 02:40:34,">>118894085 What? No, but that if they don't, they won't exist. Such simplicity may seem redundant, but when you have degenerates perverting rights to fit their definitions (as if they are some mystic entity), then it is required.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490841634 118870870,118894483,2017-03-30 02:41:55,"Minarchist here, remove the commies",,Anonymous,1443979143961.png,WQYr22ozGVGpPBnsXpXguw==,US,,1490841715 118870870,118894928,2017-03-30 02:47:10,">>118894374 meh i don't want to talk to you anymore. call this a ragequit.",,Anonymous,im-not-your-guy-buddy-sp-terrance-philip.jpg,PB8Hkt1/TH7h2t4z21u5dg==,US,,1490842030 118870870,118894957,2017-03-30 02:47:33,">>118894095 Your arguments are also great, m8! Wrong, you would be a libertarian too if it were not a beta cucked. You scream shit thinking that makes you an alpha. Your Butthurt is obvious. Every thread, no matter the subject you try to turn it into something against libertarians. I'm thinking you were molested or made cucked by some libertarian. Like the greek hate trans anon.",,Anonymous,aussief.png,m1imAfUdruV/Ds40IovI3A==,BR,,1490842053 118870870,118895069,2017-03-30 02:48:49,">>118894957 >Wrong, you would be a libertarian too >if it were not a beta cucked How is this arguing for your POV again? You just admitted it is a social failure.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490842129 118870870,118895071,2017-03-30 02:48:50,">>118875591 Self defense and protection of property is in the nap, it isn't pacifism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490842130 118870870,118895356,2017-03-30 02:52:47,">>118894125 Love Life And Anarchy it's an interesting channel.",,Anonymous,8b6116fad1aa139d4e9f9e2e12936da333779f46ed3b0ac10de6fc527bc67902_1.jpg,G9LsU1mHWRBu8CEKGY+fQg==,BR,,1490842367 118870870,118895395,2017-03-30 02:53:16,">>118894957 No I would be a Libertarian if my country had nothing to be proud of no race,culture worth protecting hoards of niggers infested the country and my epic Brazilian genes were 40% nigger 40% native and 20% """"""""""WHITE"""""""""". I would be one if my entire counties identity was built on football and street parades with mixed race women showing off their assholes and gay parades Instead I'm a White Englishmen with a proud culture and race both historically and currently and I understand how human society works, and the need to protect these values lest my country turns into the anything from South America Protip bugging out of the system and fucking off to your own farm doesn't make the problems go away. You idiots would be praising South Africa if it was Libertarian",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490842396 118870870,118895634,2017-03-30 02:56:20,">>118895395 >hoards of niggers infested the country and my epic Brazilian genes were 40% nigger 40% native and 20% """"""""""WHITE"""""""""". I would be one if my entire counties identity was built on football and street parades with mixed race women showing off their assholes and gay parades I don't think I need to visit South America anymore, I've heard it all.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490842580 118870870,118895745,2017-03-30 02:57:36,">>118894095 >I would be a libertarian too if my society was a shithole full of niggers and 2nd world Spanish rape babies whit no cultural relevance, high art or anything to be proud of at all You can easily be a libertarian if your society is a shithole full of chinks, wogs and abos with no cultural relevance, high art or anything to be proud of at all though.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490842656 118870870,118895871,2017-03-30 02:59:29,">>118895395 >MUH HERITAGE >Ad hominem >MUH HERITAGE again >Ad hominem You can not argue against a dirty monkey, a dirty monkey whose English is not even his mother tongue. You're badass edgy lorde, m8. I would recommend some books and articles, but I know you would be unable to take any advantage.",,Anonymous,1489604136429.png,3Np/BPvA7VIy9Sr3ol9QVQ==,BR,,1490842769 118870870,118895893,2017-03-30 02:59:50,">>118895745 >You can easily be a libertarian if your society is a shithole full of chinks, wogs and abos with no cultural relevance, high art or anything to be proud of at all though. Literally t. Brazilian huenigger. The most important bit of all, ethnic identity, is lost the second you are referring to mestizo subhumans.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490842790 118870870,118895953,2017-03-30 03:00:43,">>118895871 >MUH HERITAGE >Brazilian hating heritage Always wondered why mixed breed underlings hate heritage; perhaps it's because they have no discernible genetic identity.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490842843 118870870,118896092,2017-03-30 03:02:36,">>118895953 Probably.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490842956 118870870,118896234,2017-03-30 03:04:38,">>118895745 Ele vai te chamar de macaco e shitskin! Se eu fosse você, corria desse poderoso demônio branco!",,Anonymous,tumblr_inline_onhdwwjvne1sjabiu_540.png,cIygYGP7y6B0fi3LtKnROw==,BR,,1490843078 118870870,118896268,2017-03-30 03:05:07,">>118895745 And those Wogs,Chinks and abos do not disappear you idiot. They must be kept on a tight leash like what the US was until after segregation simply getting rid of the goverment does not fix the problem. If the US went Libertarian tomorrow. BLM communists and other social degenerate aka 100% Brazil still exist. You need force to remove them and in doing so you are no longer Libertarian Brazil cannot pull off anything apart from a complete collapse or slavery 2.0 because the entire country is a shithole. When I think of race mixing cultural Marxism and everything bad in the world I think of Brazil. >>118895871 Exactly thanks for proving my point your country has nothing to contribute so you must fulfill the (((glaboists))) role for Brazil which is exporting shitskins, and you seem to be doing that well to rest of South America",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490843107 118870870,118896634,2017-03-30 03:10:20,">>118895953 >A FUCKING LEAF >BUTTHURT You seem really triggered, boi. What are your reasons for staying in this thread?Looks like a lost Antifa. And I talked about hating heritage??? It is pathetic talking about heritage all the time, typical of those who are incapable of doing something for themselves. Another ""anglo"" with two digits IQ and a lot of ButtHurt.",,Anonymous,1490825385644.png,LlUNN4+HHLFGrXbnYallEw==,BR,,1490843420 118870870,118896733,2017-03-30 03:11:38,">>118896634 >posting the images of his matrilineal rape lineage >proud of anything",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490843498 118870870,118896905,2017-03-30 03:13:51,">>118896268 The idiot think won something and talk bullshit of someone completely uninformed. You already have a certain reputation of being one of the most pathetic anons in /pol/. kek. Please call me monkey and shitskin again Plz!",,Anonymous,1489335965248.png,lZoPomy0OvIKFKeEtuEaKA==,BR,,1490843631 118870870,118896952,2017-03-30 03:14:35,">>118895893 >he says while Trudeau invites Mohammed and Chang along with their entire families to buttfuck his country beyond repair >>118896234 kek >>118896268 >When I think of race mixing cultural Marxism and everything bad in the world I think of Brazil Funny, I think of the Anglosphere. We're not relevant enough to export cultural Marxism to the rest of the world like the US and its puppet states do.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490843675 118870870,118897009,2017-03-30 03:15:34,">>118896952 >he says while Trudeau invites Mohammed and Chang along with their entire families to buttfuck his country beyond repair Making the point, at leas there IS a country.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490843734 118870870,118897225,2017-03-30 03:18:47,">>118896905 https://youtu.be/2olqTXEHzU8",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490843927 118870870,118897242,2017-03-30 03:19:04,">>118896733 >I will lower myself to you two-digit IQ I have a trap that calls me a master. A leaf trap, skinny and white.. I would be proud of that, if it were not easy to seduce you with my BBC (BIG BRAZILIAN COCK"".",,Anonymous,1463830116060.png,pZUs1bHjACSnn7Xtj2wVnA==,BR,,1490843944 118870870,118897373,2017-03-30 03:21:08,">>118897242 It's a subversion process (emphasis on process). Brazil cannot be lowered to shit, it already IS shit. Rape babies don't really have much to call ""honour"".",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490844068 118870870,118897461,2017-03-30 03:22:18,">>118897373 Good night, left side.",,Anonymous,butthurt-faggot.jpg,fB31309mHWetexdZ9lsX2Q==,BR,,1490844138 118870870,118897465,2017-03-30 03:22:22,">>118873637 You know nothing of national socialism you fucking shitskin leftist socialism is Marxist socialism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490844142 118870870,118897509,2017-03-30 03:23:00,">>118897009 Right, the first ""post-national"" country in the world, a masterpiece of globalism on the brink of collapse. Living in the jungle doesn't sound so bad in comparison.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490844180 118870870,118897585,2017-03-30 03:24:04,">>118897461 I wouldn't be so quick to jump to ""butthurt"" when your fellow mixed-breed: >>118897509 Admits to being a huenigger money.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490844244 118870870,118897621,2017-03-30 03:24:25,">>118896905 Please learn to speak the language of the person your trying to argue against. If I wanted to argue about how many transsexuals are in Brazil I'll be speaking spic to you on a Brazilian 4chan if anyone from your country can even create such a thing. >>118896952 And cultural Marxism only came about because idiots like you puppet freedom Freedom to be a degenerate. Freedom to be raise your kids to be communist leaning. Free love man, get American troops out of Vietnam fucking statists wanting to stop world communism by impeaching on the local yellow niggers right. Funny thing is Brazil is the end point of cultural Marxism your the lowest of the low. Your the human trash heap of society.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490844265 118870870,118897670,2017-03-30 03:25:12,">>118897465 >MUH RACE SOCIALISM IS DIFFRENT >/POL/ IS MUH SAFE SPACE",,Anonymous,Stupid Ape You Die Now.jpg,veLYAnx72JdkVfSn3MV3Og==,US,,1490844312 118870870,118897684,2017-03-30 03:25:22,">>118897509 Exactly, the leaf can only be joking about all this... a fucking red leaf globalism.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490844322 118870870,118897707,2017-03-30 03:25:39,">>118875591 NAP doesn't apply to people who don't respect private property. Also bump for justice.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490844339 118870870,118897841,2017-03-30 03:27:34,">>118897670 Anime fag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490844454 118870870,118897911,2017-03-30 03:28:24,">>118897841 >WESTABOO",,Anonymous,eJwNyEEOhCAMAMC_8ACgbKHgbwgSNFFLoJ42_l3nOH91j0MtahPpczFm3WfhseopPHKrujG3o-a-T134NFkkl-2sl0zjEqQIDh15_wOiYL8KhBER7FfJR7QGMEbnbACPgXS_mnpevxYifQ.png,0HPCwyayqiTIEhz7ThtR2Q==,US,,1490844504 118870870,118897960,2017-03-30 03:29:02,">>118897911 fuq wrong image i have brain aids",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490844542 118870870,118897973,2017-03-30 03:29:11,">>118897707 If a community of communists form that respect that nap of others but slowly spread out via unregulated media restrictions offering ""free"" education to other lower class people and the commune receiving funds from outside forces your nation will slowly become Communist or harbor a large communist percentage. If you decide to kill these people you are now Authoritarian or violating the nap of all in the community since it is their right to choose to live like that. Then they fire their own recreational nuke gifted from China and North Korea and destroy you",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490844551 118870870,118897984,2017-03-30 03:29:21,">>118897911 Go jack it to lolis you closet pedo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490844561 118870870,118898138,2017-03-30 03:31:45,">>118897984 >closet socialist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490844705 118870870,118898178,2017-03-30 03:32:19,">>118870967 >>118870993 saved >>118872807 they think we have to go down the path of destruction to fix everything. We are not at that point YET >>118873440 Low Quality Bait",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490844739 118870870,118898270,2017-03-30 03:34:04,">>118874379 What is this type of anarchy?",,Anonymous,sample.png,rAHxdp+dfaroHPa/ue8nNg==,NL,,1490844844 118870870,118898303,2017-03-30 03:34:31,">>118897621 Exactly, you can not win an argument with someone who does not even know your language. Ignore everything else, it does not matter, you're still one of the most pathetic anons on this board. My cousin Shitskin spent two years studying in Australia. Made a real collection of amateur videos with your girls. He's also in the USA, but the girls there were less easy. I'm going to Australia in a year, I'll ""train my tongue"" in english when you're there, your girls will teach me very well.",,Anonymous,aussie.png,FjdNXauwTvuJVhZgh0sIZg==,BR,,1490844871 118870870,118898368,2017-03-30 03:35:29,">>118898270 ""Libertarian"" left, they are not anarchists.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490844929 118870870,118898533,2017-03-30 03:37:57,">>118880564 Because our economic beliefs are capitalist, retard. Political beliefs in favor of capitalism are inherently right-wing",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490845077 118870870,118898664,2017-03-30 03:39:46,">>118898303 Wow amazing banter. M-muh transsexual monkey cousin went and fucked some sluts and he did the same in the United states. And I'm gonna go to your country and fuck sluts too BTFO. This is low energy banter which could only come from a dumb non white, no wonder your so obsessed with sex your entire country was raped by Whites for centuries . Well my ancestors genocided entire populations, held center position on all world politics (still do) and created the greatest civilisation known to man. I have something worth protecting, you do not",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490845186 118870870,118898717,2017-03-30 03:40:30,">>118894483 >>118894483 kek. Saved",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490845230 118870870,118898881,2017-03-30 03:43:12,">>118880947 try not to overdose on the bluepills, buddy.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490845392 118870870,118898914,2017-03-30 03:43:39,">>118898664 >And I'm gonna go to your country and fuck sluts too BTFO >being proud of sexual deviancy in the Third World Yeah nah, you lost me. Fuck hueniggers but don't steep to their level of degeneracy, premarital sex only leads to despair and cancerous social practices.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490845419 118870870,118899042,2017-03-30 03:45:36,>>118888888,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490845536 118870870,118899058,2017-03-30 03:45:51,">>118884085 Excuse to interrupt, but you seem to be arguing with an intelligent but extremely angry racist. He also quite fast at typing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490845551 118870870,118899077,2017-03-30 03:46:07,">>118898664 >Transsexual again >MUH HERITAGE again You are evidently a NEET, unable to do something on its own and unsure of your sexuality. Most likely feels unsafe when at penis size ((cut)).",,Anonymous,1489435075614.jpg,HPisf2aSADlQcIkecC4Csw==,BR,,1490845567 118870870,118899100,2017-03-30 03:46:25,">>118898914 I was saying from his perspective He was bragging about how his cousin was fucking sluts then how he was going to go and fuck sluts too. Wow amazing I know, something to truly strive for",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490845585 118870870,118899116,2017-03-30 03:46:36,how true is this...?,,Anonymous,pol.jpg,5TSl73PbBPnez112vGPrew==,PH,,1490845596 118870870,118899168,2017-03-30 03:47:29,"This thread is cancer. People who purport to have similar positions to me but don't understand a lick of what they're espousing annoy me far more than other idiots who claim different stances.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1490845649 118870870,118899226,2017-03-30 03:48:28,">>118899100 Ah, I see. Yeah, it's not really a badge of honour to be a manwhore as opposed to a father. >>118899116 I agree that libertarianism is ""liberal"" in that it allows for the decadence of freedom to Marxists. Fascism is necessary to remove the filth. Not sure about the republicanism applied in other parts of the world.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490845708 118870870,118899268,2017-03-30 03:49:09,">>118898368 >this tread in a nutshell >does not know history >thinks anarchist is compatable with capitalism This is a politics board, normies out",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1490845749 118870870,118899271,2017-03-30 03:49:12,">>118899168 Yet the tripfag decides to bump the cancerous thread instead of letting it die.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490845752 118870870,118899390,2017-03-30 03:50:50,">>118898303 Thats funny because i know a whole bunch of aussies who have been plowing brazilian girls when they are here studying so it goes both ways shitskin",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490845850 118870870,118899394,2017-03-30 03:50:55,">>118899168 Thanks to the top tier shitposter ((RED LEAF)) and ((AUSSIE KEK))",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490845855 118870870,118899415,2017-03-30 03:51:12,">>118872522 """"""Based"""""""" Stick Man is a cuck, he's fine with America becoming a brown shithole He gets a helicopter ride, too",,Anonymous,AntiCommActionHoppe.jpg,rVnxcTt1uQ21sQGBe5ZFfQ==,US,,1490845872 118870870,118899438,2017-03-30 03:51:31,">>118899271 >implying Also >16 posts by this ID",,Praceteom,,,US,,1490845891 118870870,118899457,2017-03-30 03:51:51,">>118898914 >don't steep to their level of degeneracy Yeah, we wouldn't want that to happen.",,Anonymous,1488403024624.png,fUq5aX8Gl5FdlVmeslOUCw==,BR,,1490845911 118870870,118899488,2017-03-30 03:52:18,">>118898303 Have you ever considered that your strong sexual desire towards the women of other races, particularly the White race, is indicative of an instinctive desire to convert ""up-breed"" ?, the implication being that you instinctively see yourself as an inferior human type? These kinds of boasts and taunts cast you in the role of the proverbial turd on the doorstep. Copulation being a fiendish and hostile act, rather than a gift. If true then what more need be said?",,so russia is batman?,,,GB,,1490845938 118870870,118899521,2017-03-30 03:52:44,">>118899438 Not really implying anything, I stated it outright that if you hate the thread, why bump it? Actions don't match your intentions. Anything sub 20 in a thread this large is acceptable. >>118899457 Like I said, at least there is a country to be subverted.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490845964 118870870,118899607,2017-03-30 03:54:05,">>118899268 >Flag You scandinavian have fallen ugly into cultural Marxism. Varg told...",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490846045 118870870,118899622,2017-03-30 03:54:14,">>118899521 >bumping with sage",,Praceteom,,,US,,1490846054 118870870,118899689,2017-03-30 03:55:17,">>118899521 Hardly, but keep telling yourself that.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490846117 118870870,118899739,2017-03-30 03:56:04,">>118899689 >mixed breed thinking it is worth more than a dollar How are those shanty towns going? >>118899622 okay there",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490846164 118870870,118899795,2017-03-30 03:56:47,">>118899488 I only entered the race game that your puppy was doing.",,Anonymous,1490323394866.jpg,cYHJ9D8zXAKdMIJyddpn+Q==,BR,,1490846207 118870870,118899827,2017-03-30 03:57:14,">>118899739 >mixed breed thinking it is worth more than a dollar >How are those shanty towns going? You tell me.",,Anonymous,1401978722495.jpg,XsRf6bPyymfMMl01qq+5oQ==,BR,,1490846234 118870870,118899895,2017-03-30 03:58:10,">>118899226 i like this thought >but what's the deal with various fascist symbols around US .gov buildings? trolling? it's just cringe",,Anonymous,1487465640236.jpg,g9HRB0pWO1evYEVADfJOMw==,PH,,1490846290 118870870,118899914,2017-03-30 03:58:23,">>118899607 Great argument against my point kid Right wingers are sounding more and more like swj in the way they ""argue"" if you want to call not having to adressen any points that",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1490846303 118870870,118899959,2017-03-30 03:59:13,">>118899607 Great argument against my point kid Right wingers are sounding more and more like swj in the way they ""argue"" if you want to call not having to adressen any points that",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846353 118870870,118899983,2017-03-30 03:59:38,quints get,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846378 118870870,118900005,2017-03-30 03:59:53,">>118899827 Define shanty town again?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490846393 118870870,118900021,2017-03-30 04:00:04,get,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846404 118870870,118900047,2017-03-30 04:00:21,">>118899827 Define shanty town again?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846421 118870870,118900063,2017-03-30 04:00:30,">>118894374 >>118895069 >>118895634 >>118895893 >>118895953 >>118896733 >>118897009 >>118897373 >>118897585 >>118898914 >>118899226 >>118899271 >>118899521 >>118899739 >>118899827 The red leaf butthurt.",,Anonymous,ching leaf.png,i7FKpFe3422AyJst6oQdhA==,BR,,1490846430 118870870,118900149,2017-03-30 04:01:45,">>118899914 >>118899959 Proxy left-wing guy.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490846505 118870870,118900190,2017-03-30 04:02:19,"Fucking sage. Fuck you cunts, and fuck all the cucks and cunts in this fucking thread",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490846539 118870870,118900251,2017-03-30 04:03:10,">>118894374 >>118895069 >>118895634 >>118895893 >>118895953 >>118896733 >>118897009 >>118897373 >>118897585 >>118898914 >>118899226 >>118899271 >>118899521 >>118899739 >>118899827 The red leaf butthurt.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846590 118870870,118900267,2017-03-30 04:03:24,">>118900005 You should know that already, leaf.",,Anonymous,1488737836922.png,b4pV6dCiDb8YD19G9ZobuQ==,BR,,1490846604 118870870,118900270,2017-03-30 04:03:28,">>118899914 >>118899959 Proxy left-wing guy.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846608 118870870,118900291,2017-03-30 04:03:45,"Fucking sage. Fuck you cunts, and fuck all the cucks and cunts in this fucking thread",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846625 118870870,118900311,2017-03-30 04:04:02,">>118899983 >>118900021 Are you in such a position to be calling others out? >>118900251 >>118900063 >>118900267 Define shanty towns tho.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490846642 118870870,118900314,2017-03-30 04:04:03,">>118900005 You should know that already, leaf.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846643 118870870,118900355,2017-03-30 04:04:36,">>118899983 >>118900021 Are you in such a position to be calling others out? >>118900251 (You) >>118900063 >>118900267 Define shanty towns tho.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846676 118870870,118900371,2017-03-30 04:04:52,">>118900063 >44 posts by this id and not one argument You've only posted images you have not rebutted one single point made by anyone else in the entire thread. I can bet your a 16 Brazilian who's latched onto ancap to try justify his shit subhuman genes. You nation is a cancer of society let alone all your South American neighbors",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490846692 118870870,118900373,2017-03-30 04:04:55,">>118870870 Ban poor people from /pol/ and you eliminate the communist threat",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846695 118870870,118900380,2017-03-30 04:05:04,">>118900063 >44 posts by this id and not one argument You've only posted images you have not rebutted one single point made by anyone else in the entire thread. I can bet your a 16 Brazilian who's latched onto ancap to try justify his shit subhuman genes. You nation is a cancer of society let alone all your South American neighbors",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846704 118870870,118900411,2017-03-30 04:05:24,">>118870870 Ban poor people from /pol/ and you eliminate the communist threat",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846724 118870870,118900474,2017-03-30 04:06:17,">>118900314 >>118900267 Bot?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490846777 118870870,118900499,2017-03-30 04:06:42,">>118900314 >>118900267 Bot?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846802 118870870,118900500,2017-03-30 04:06:42,">>118900355 This has to be a bot.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490846802 118870870,118900518,2017-03-30 04:06:50,">>118900190 Do not sage the crap of the communist thread! Sage one of the most traditional threads in /pol/? A bunch of idiots left-wings and cucks turned all this into cancer.",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann-Hoppe.jpg,9oYfzoaM1h0laAcSL4AKwQ==,BR,,1490846810 118870870,118900569,2017-03-30 04:07:27,">>118900355 This has to be a bot.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846847 118870870,118900601,2017-03-30 04:07:54,">>118900190 Do not sage the crap of the communist thread! Sage one of the most traditional threads in /pol/? A bunch of idiots left-wings and cucks turned all this into cancer.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846874 118870870,118900603,2017-03-30 04:07:55,">>118880217 fixed it",,Anonymous,1490846807549.jpg,u+r/4KiSPUipaBaUGGOCSg==,AU,,1490846875 118870870,118900622,2017-03-30 04:08:14,">>118880217 fixed it",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846894 118870870,118900670,2017-03-30 04:08:56,">>118900371 >15 posts by this id and not one argument You're so incredibly pathetic, kiddo. Topkek and feel sorry at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490846936 118870870,118900672,2017-03-30 04:08:58,">>118900622 The Netherlands is shit and I'm a Jewish bot",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490846938 118870870,118900676,2017-03-30 04:09:00,">>118900149 >>118900270 Great argument",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1490846940 118870870,118900733,2017-03-30 04:09:51,">>118900371 >15 posts by this id and not one argument You're so incredibly pathetic, kiddo. Topkek and feel sorry at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490846991 118870870,118900754,2017-03-30 04:10:11,">>118900622 The Netherlands is shit and I'm a Jewish bot",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847011 118870870,118900773,2017-03-30 04:10:29,">>118900149 >>118900270 Great argument",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847029 118870870,118900774,2017-03-30 04:10:30,">>118900672 How's that cyclone doing m8",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847030 118870870,118900779,2017-03-30 04:10:34,">>118900518 >>118900601 AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SEEING THIS SHIT? ARCHIVE THIS THREAD, TWO IDS RESPOND BUT ONLY ONE (YOU). BOTS CONFIRMED",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490847034 118870870,118900802,2017-03-30 04:10:52,">>118900672 How's that cyclone doing m8",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847052 118870870,118900831,2017-03-30 04:11:13,">>118900518 (You) >>118900601 AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SEEING THIS SHIT? ARCHIVE THIS THREAD, TWO IDS RESPOND BUT ONLY ONE (YOU). BOTS CONFIRMED",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847073 118870870,118900833,2017-03-30 04:11:16,">>118900676 So explain, comrade Marxist. Plz! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpLpE9jESNA",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490847076 118870870,118900844,2017-03-30 04:11:26,">>118900670 There you go all of these have arguments. >>118880351 >>118882007 >>118883208 >>118883898 >>118894095 Your posts are just le epic snake memes and resorting ad hominem attacks",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490847086 118870870,118900868,2017-03-30 04:11:43,">>118900676 So explain, comrade Marxist. Plz! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpLpE9jESNA",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847103 118870870,118900886,2017-03-30 04:12:02,">>118900670 There you go all of these have arguments. >>118880351 >>118882007 (You) >>118883208 >>118883898 >>118894095 [Embed] Your posts are just le epic snake memes and resorting ad hominem attacks",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847122 118870870,118900933,2017-03-30 04:12:52,">>118870870 People who follow this stuff, I'm sorry but look further. You're on the right path though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490847172 118870870,118900966,2017-03-30 04:13:14,">>118900779 >>118900831 Globalists and cucked nations, good night.",,Anonymous,df3496a35eac37e10e1dd9409c8a9fe7e14c191939bf4277c4f03eac624360a0_1.jpg,pxaEQafaT1yEW8ss22t8VQ==,BR,,1490847194 118870870,118900967,2017-03-30 04:13:15,">>118870870 (OP) People who follow this stuff, I'm sorry but look further. You're on the right path though.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847195 118870870,118900974,2017-03-30 04:13:23,">>118874379 what are the bottom center two?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490847203 118870870,118900994,2017-03-30 04:13:38,">>118900779 >>118900831 Globalists and cucked nations, good night.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847218 118870870,118901004,2017-03-30 04:13:50,">>118870870 April 15 Berkely Ca, will it be the rebirth of the Lion Guard? We need to stop the puppet Antifa and their master Soros plan for inciting civil war. https://youtu.be/CcGPTeUQkgM https://youtu.be/hcoAquxv7YI",,Anonymous,AltKnight.jpg,OCTPq/wLdi130munSqaluQ==,US,,1490847230 118870870,118901011,2017-03-30 04:14:03,">>118874379 what are the bottom center two?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847243 118870870,118901032,2017-03-30 04:14:21,">>118870870 (OP) April 15 Berkely Ca, will it be the rebirth of the Lion Guard? We need to stop the puppet Antifa and their master Soros plan for inciting civil war. https://youtu.be/CcGPTeUQkgM [Embed] https://youtu.be/hcoAquxv7YI [Embed]",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847261 118870870,118901047,2017-03-30 04:14:35,">>118900933 Enlighten me on the better privatized roads",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847275 118870870,118901067,2017-03-30 04:15:02,">>118900933 Enlighten me on the better privatized roads",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847302 118870870,118901127,2017-03-30 04:16:02,">>118872807 literally let fear get the best of them they're weak stormweenies anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490847362 118870870,118901155,2017-03-30 04:16:28,">>118900518 (You) >>118900601 (You) AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SEEING THIS SHIT? ARCHIVE THIS THREAD, TWO IDS RESPOND BUT ONLY ONE (YOU). BOTS CONFIRMED",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847388 118870870,118901179,2017-03-30 04:16:46,">>118872807 literally let fear get the best of them they're weak stormweenies anon",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847406 118870870,118901200,2017-03-30 04:17:08,">>118900833 >explain some random bidro on YouTube Explain your argument first, its clear you don't understand anarchists so il be happy to help you out School isn't cheat , but wikipedia is, why do people in ""politics"" have so little intelectual curiosity?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1490847428 118870870,118901219,2017-03-30 04:17:26,">>118900833 >explain some random bidro on YouTube Explain your argument first, its clear you don't understand anarchists so il be happy to help you out School isn't cheat , but wikipedia is, why do people in ""politics"" have so little intelectual curiosity?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847446 118870870,118901283,2017-03-30 04:18:25,">>118901200 >cheap",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1490847505 118870870,118901287,2017-03-30 04:18:31,>>118901219,,botfag,heh (6).jpg,tkkYKy7ul4bzzNXA9+7SyA==,PH,,1490847511 118870870,118901292,2017-03-30 04:18:36,">>118901200 >cheap",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847516 118870870,118901307,2017-03-30 04:18:54,>>118901219 >(You),,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847534 118870870,118901362,2017-03-30 04:19:40,">>118901200 >>118900779 >>118900672 You are welcome here. >>118901114",,Anonymous,1489079672350.jpg,o9XYI14/zmP35daqa7LZtg==,BR,,1490847580 118870870,118901424,2017-03-30 04:20:33,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL AnCap (ID: BWP1am0U) 03/30/17(Thu)04:40:18 No.118870870▶>>118870967 >>118874329 >>118874656 >>118876994 >>118880564 >>118880913 >>118881581 >>118885269 >>118887308 >>118889481 >>118894125 >>118900373 >>118900411 >>118900933 >>118900967 >>118901004 >>118901032 This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, Agorism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc [Embed] So /pol/ what are you doing to secure a free and prosperous future for yourself? >okayigotahelicopterinmycaptchafuckyouallimchucknorris",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847633 118870870,118901447,2017-03-30 04:20:50,"Anonymous (ID: BWP1am0U) 03/30/17(Thu)10:19:40 No.118901362 ▶ File: 1489079672350.jpg (70 KB, 460x618) 70 KB >>118901200 >>118900779 >>118900672 You are welcome here. >>118901114 →",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847650 118870870,118901506,2017-03-30 04:21:39,>>118901424,,QN52lfLs -- botfag,heh (2).gif,q+YaGTFuAupn2w2kxI8+lw==,PH,,1490847699 118870870,118901509,2017-03-30 04:21:40,">>118901424 Anonymous (ID: BWP1am0U) 03/30/17(Thu)10:11:16 No.118900833 ▶>>118901200 >>118901219 >>118900676 So explain, comrade Marxist. Plz! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpLpE9jESNA [Embed] >> Anonymous (ID: vIqZAr1V) 03/30/17(Thu)10:11:26 No.118900844 ▶ >>118900670 There you go all of these have arguments. >>118880351",,Anonymous,hiimabot.png,U5aufifyzupYV3QF67/r6A==,NL,,1490847700 118870870,118901525,2017-03-30 04:21:58,"QN52lfLs -- botfag (ID: F1vxIWpf) 03/30/17(Thu)10:21:39 No.118901506 ▶ File: heh (2).gif (575 KB, 520x446) 575 KB >>118901424 (You)",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847718 118870870,118901570,2017-03-30 04:22:38,>>118901525,,QN52lfLs -- botfag,heh (17).jpg,2dszvV1yrjf5NI83YUqjwA==,PH,,1490847758 118870870,118901577,2017-03-30 04:22:46,Do you retards still think blacks and hispanics will vote for you and not a bigger welfare check?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490847766 118870870,118901599,2017-03-30 04:23:04,"QN52lfLs -- botfag (ID: F1vxIWpf) 03/30/17(Thu)10:22:38 No.118901570 ▶ File: heh (17).jpg (13 KB, 255x233) 13 KB >>118901525 (You)",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847784 118870870,118901617,2017-03-30 04:23:22,"Anonymous (ID: wPheXoiS) 03/30/17(Thu)10:22:46 No.118901577 ▶ Do you retards still think blacks and hispanics will vote for you and not a bigger welfare check?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847802 118870870,118901618,2017-03-30 04:23:23,">>118893765 We've entered SHILLCON 3. I repeat: SHILLCON 3 is reached!",,ze Libtard,1478082422187.jpg,jlsFXrAvQ1tJs0S+g4YjRQ==,DE,,1490847803 118870870,118901640,2017-03-30 04:23:45,"ze Libtard (ID: PbDzMSDV) 03/30/17(Thu)10:23:23 No.118901618 ▶ File: 1478082422187.jpg (49 KB, 640x480) 49 KB >>118893765 We've entered SHILLCON 3. I repeat: SHILLCON 3 is reached!",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847825 118870870,118901665,2017-03-30 04:24:11,">>118901617 >>118901640",,QN52lfLs -- botfag,merchant_damage.control.gif,Ld56vLf6CuSjgZR2Ir+suQ==,PH,,1490847851 118870870,118901746,2017-03-30 04:25:25,"QN52lfLs -- botfag (ID: F1vxIWpf) 03/30/17(Thu)10:24:11 No.118901665 ▶ File: merchant_damage.control.gif (365 KB, 2000x1153) 365 KB >>118901617 (You) >>118901640 (You)",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847925 118870870,118901759,2017-03-30 04:25:38,">>118893755 the same site sells shirts for antifa, don't make deals with the filth",,Anonymous,disgusting.jpg,ejcn5mjsNNYSIIWVICzuDQ==,ES,,1490847938 118870870,118901774,2017-03-30 04:25:50,"Anonymous (ID: 0JqygE/1) 03/30/17(Thu)10:25:38 No.118901759 ▶ File: disgusting.jpg (31 KB, 572x340) 31 KB >>118893755 the same site sells shirts for antifa, don't make deals with the filth",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490847950 118870870,118901779,2017-03-30 04:25:55,">>118901362 >i don't want to learn mom!",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1490847955 118870870,118901790,2017-03-30 04:26:07,>>118901746,,QN52lfLs -- botfag,smug (4).png,55ltAZTTiqTCKOkso+9raA==,PH,,1490847967 118870870,118901808,2017-03-30 04:26:27,"Everyone report the French guy ""QN52IfLs""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490847987 118870870,118902610,2017-03-30 04:39:21,">>118901808 Lol dumb turkroach in the us can't tell the difference between dutch and french flag Anonumous (ID 928jnT/G) 03/30/17(Thu)10:26:27 No.118901808 Everyone report the French guy ""QN52lfLs""",,Anonymous,hqdefault-4.jpg,wdwaiVIcdSZS8Bv+mSBLYw==,NL,,1490848761 118870870,118902671,2017-03-30 04:40:26,">>118901808 >>118902610 kek",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490848826 118870870,118902863,2017-03-30 04:44:04,">>118902610 I'm sorry no one knows who you are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490849044 118870870,118903427,2017-03-30 04:53:23,new OC,,Anonymous,reactionary liberty.png,ILJQlodNgOd8kFn6a8eXYA==,PT,,1490849603 118870870,118903542,2017-03-30 04:55:25,">>118902863 I'm ""French""",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490849725 118906899,118906899,2017-03-30 06:00:11,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Physical Removal Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1490853611 118906899,118907079,2017-03-30 06:03:40,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490853820 118906899,118907138,2017-03-30 06:05:06,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490853906 118906899,118907185,2017-03-30 06:06:02,Wassap german bro.,,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1490853962 118906899,118907205,2017-03-30 06:06:27,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490853987 118906899,118907306,2017-03-30 06:07:53,">>118906899 Articles by Murray Rothbard >Race! That Murray Book https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Big-Government Libertarians https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html >More on LewRockwell.com https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/murray-n-rothbard/ >>118907185 Good ... noon lel Spreading the freedom right to the darkest corners Also, my posts are slow as fuck, because my internet is literal slug-tier right now",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490854073 118906899,118907435,2017-03-30 06:09:55,">>118907306 I'm working on a FAQ I dont have much yet. but its getting there.",,Anonymous,snek (2).png,ZJUzc6WPaHObMTxjZmkz+Q==,US,,1490854195 118906899,118907514,2017-03-30 06:11:32,"For everyone wondering what to read: pic related is, when you only want Hoppe. If you want a general introduction, you start with ""Anatomy of the State"" by M. Rothbard and go ahead with ""Democracy - The God that Failed"" by Hoppe. Then you're set to go ahead with whatever text related",,Anonymous,1490563413200.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,DE,,1490854292 118906899,118907624,2017-03-30 06:13:26,">>118907435 Oh that's an awesome idea. Are you the armeribro that's going the FAQ-vid ? Anyway, it's a great idea.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490854406 118906899,118907760,2017-03-30 06:15:44,">>118907624 yeah I figured I could make a ""script"" that would also work as a FAQ paste for the thread.",,Anonymous,snek (3).jpg,i5gyLIWDIVneA3yXPg+EkA==,US,,1490854544 118906899,118908284,2017-03-30 06:25:24,">>118907760 I'd even think that the most important thing to explain - regarding the threads on pol - is that we ain't Johnson-tier open border + positive rights libertarians",,Anonymous,1490805837759.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,DE,,1490855124 118906899,118908446,2017-03-30 06:28:35,Yes it will be made clear that Libertarianism is a right wing movement and that our leftist elements are useful idiots at best and a cancer that can only be cured by one way helicopter rides at the worst.,,Anonymous,snek (5).png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,US,,1490855315 118906899,118908789,2017-03-30 06:34:06,Start by removing all of the communist general bs that has plagued this board for so long.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490855646 118906899,118908796,2017-03-30 06:34:14,"Daily reminder that, although statists an shiet, stormies are welcome to debate whatever topic you want.",,Anonymous,1490842977425.png,UwEgI5kjnW5UGhN24uroJA==,DE,,1490855654 118906899,118908962,2017-03-30 06:36:44,">>118908789 >communist general",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1490855804 118906899,118908997,2017-03-30 06:37:17,"here's some of what i've been working on: Some cucky fag told me Anarcho-Capitalists are in favor of an ""Open Borders"" policy. Is this true? > not even the most restrictive immigration policy or the most exclusive form of segregationism has anything to do with a rejection of free trade and the adoption of protectionism. From the fact that one does not want to associate with or live in a neighborhood of Germans, Haitians, Chinese, Koreans, Mexicans, Moslems, Hindus, Catholics, etc., it does not follow that one does not want to trade with them from a distance. Moreover, even if it were the case that one's real income would rise as a result of immigration, it Dosen't freedom lead to moral degredation and degeneracy? >It should be obvious then that and why libertarians must be moral and cultural conservatives of the most uncompromising kind. The current state of moral degeneration, social disintegration and cultural rot is precisely the result of too much-and above all erroneous and misconceived-tolerance. Rather than having all habitual democrats, communists, and alternative lifestylists quickly isolated, excluded and expelled from civilization in accordance with the principles of the covenant, they were tolerated by society. Yet this toleration only encouraged and promoted even more egalitarian and relativistic sentiments and attitudes, until at last the point was reached where the authority of excluding anyone for anything had effectively evaporated (while the power of the state, as manifested in state-sponsored forced integration policies, had correspondingly grown).",,Anonymous,1487070028227.jpg,HjVXH9vLzhrNNiOo28uejg==,US,,1490855837 118906899,118909014,2017-03-30 06:37:34,"None is sweeter than your right to discriminate: >To exclude other people from one's own property is the very means by which an owner can avoid ''bads'' from happening: events that will lower the value of one's property. In not being permitted to freely exclude, the incidence of bads-ill-behaved, lazy, unreliable, rotten students, employees, customers-will increase and property values will fall. In fact, forced integration (the result of all nondiscrimination policies) breeds ill behavior and bad character. In civilized society, the ultimate price for ill behavior is expulsion, and all-around ill-behaved or rotten characters (even if they commit no criminal offense) will find themselves quickly expelled from everywhere and by everyone and become outcasts, physically removed from civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490855854 118906899,118909081,2017-03-30 06:38:38,shit part of the first quote is missing,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490855918 118906899,118909151,2017-03-30 06:39:45,The aussie commie and reaf leaf are preparing to ruin this thread.,,Anonymous,1490844848240.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,BR,,1490855985 118906899,118909234,2017-03-30 06:41:09,"How do you people feel about water? Capitalists - Why treat the water when everyone can spend thousands on their own to purify it? Which seems to be the way things are headed. Or citizens can spend considerably less is taxes to have it filtered at the source, but that might be too socialist or commie. Plus who can trust the government, m I right?",,Anonymous,app-water-treatment-and-disinfection_Header_1[1].jpg,XOyk+wwf+Az5yJhwWnTj2w==,US,,1490856069 118906899,118909295,2017-03-30 06:42:14,">>118908997 >>118909014 >>118909081 Good stuff >>118909151 >imblyign they could ruin this thread Free bumps are welcome lel",,Anonymous,1490817995643.jpg,tvKv0no9/a6+XBeHyHKi9Q==,DE,,1490856134 118906899,118909478,2017-03-30 06:44:56,">>118906899 Checked. Fuck roads, reporting in for life, liberty, and property. What weapon system is best for home defense against (((the state)))?",,Anonymous,hoppe for dummies.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,SK,,1490856296 118906899,118909603,2017-03-30 06:47:07,">>118909081 here we go. Some cucky fag told me Anarcho-Capitalists are in favor of an ""Open Borders"" policy. Is this true? > not even the most restrictive immigration policy or the most exclusive form of segregationism has anything to do with a rejection of free trade and the adoption of protectionism. From the fact that one does not want to associate with or live in a neighborhood of Germans, Haitians, Chinese, Koreans, Mexicans, Moslems, Hindus, Catholics, etc., it does not follow that one does not want to trade with them from a distance. Moreover, even if it were the case that one's real income would rise as a result of immigration, it does not follow that immigration must be considered ""good,"" for material wealth is not the only thing that matters. Rather, what constitutes ""welfare"" and ""wealth"" is subjective, and one might prefer lower material living standards and a greater distance from certain other people over higher material living standards and a smaller distance. It is precisely the absolute voluntariness of human association and separation-the absence of any form of forced integration-which makes peaceful relationships-free trade-between racially, ethnically, linguistically, religiously, or culturally distinct people possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490856427 118906899,118909620,2017-03-30 06:47:25,">>118909234 There's no reason you have to spends ""thousands on [their] your own to purify it"". There'd be companies to purify and sell water - just as we have now. The price would considerably go down as there wouldn't just be a single company to sell water and consumers would be free to choose what to buy. So there's that. People could also collect their own water - though that'd be not very inefficient, but if it's enough to have enough to live, why not.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490856445 118906899,118909881,2017-03-30 06:51:26,">>118909151 you already ruined it weeb and any other weebs before you. fuck, it was already ruined when someone conceived the idea of libertarian. Fuck you, fuck brazil, fuck libertarians, and FUCK WEEBS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490856686 118906899,118909938,2017-03-30 06:52:13,">>118909620 Remeber that at the moment, there are just a few companies that sell drinking water etc. efficiently, what effectively makes them a monopoly forming cartel. In an ancap society that wouldn't virtually be impossible >>118909603 I just thought it would be smart to add to the FAQ a short argument for why it's effectively ""impossible"" so to speak that insurers would form monopolies and instituate a state-like area etc.",,Anonymous,1490841690660.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,DE,,1490856733 118906899,118909961,2017-03-30 06:52:31,>>118907290,,Anonymous,1490845626281.png,8qrY7AT3qV81b8uirt+m7A==,BR,,1490856751 118906899,118910040,2017-03-30 06:53:39,"I'm glad to see these threads are catching on. Great work on keeping them fresh. >>118909603 Hey, you should probably add a summary on the typical road question. It gets annoying to answer it every thread. >>118909881 rude",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490856819 118906899,118910058,2017-03-30 06:54:01,">>118909881 I hate weeb too... but they sent me this pic and I liked it.",,Anonymous,1488783709299.jpg,dmVI+rJg8/v/57PGmN//zQ==,BR,,1490856841 118906899,118910398,2017-03-30 07:00:02,">>118909938 Fuck my brain. Of course it would NOT be possible to form cartels and monopolies due to competition and the people being free to found competitor companies wtf ._.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490857202 118906899,118911201,2017-03-30 07:13:01,Bump.,,Anonymous,HOPPE_POP_ART_bayonaL.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,US,,1490857981 118906899,118911894,2017-03-30 07:24:52,">>118911201 rate my bad as fuck OC lel",,Anonymous,SEIZE REMOVED.png,hPlnOHQVRyzpoJho2fsbDw==,DE,,1490858692 118906899,118912113,2017-03-30 07:28:35,">>118909234 >what are economies of scale >what is paying a company of your choice to purify and sell you water",,Anonymous,hoppe removal poem.jpg,LIOHfK9V9BhGr4hGzslqvg==,SK,,1490858915 118906899,118912167,2017-03-30 07:29:31,">>118911894 Imma be honest with you mate, it's pretty low energy. Hijack some commie memes to cuck em.",,Anonymous,FAHR.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,US,,1490858971 118906899,118912271,2017-03-30 07:30:56,What's tge point of being a libertarian right now? Only a massive violation of the nap from the state could save the west.,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490859056 118906899,118912370,2017-03-30 07:32:29,need more sneks,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490859149 118906899,118912402,2017-03-30 07:32:56,">tfw you realize that the Holocaust was just the ""right wing"" version of dekulakization and nazis try to justify and deny it for the same reason commies say dekulakization happened because of the Holodmor and not vice versa",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490859176 118906899,118912426,2017-03-30 07:33:17,What about the roads and schools tho?,,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490859197 118906899,118912447,2017-03-30 07:33:36,">>118912167 b-b-b-but .. what about intellectual property ? haha jk >>118912271 ""The state"" is the problem in first place",,Anonymous,1490817818250.jpg,gJ/g7mQwHDM+ZN0m1wpvaQ==,DE,,1490859216 118906899,118912597,2017-03-30 07:36:08,">>118912271 /pol/ Libertarians are libertarians that recognize the need of fascism to protect your rights.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490859368 118906899,118912691,2017-03-30 07:37:30,">>118912447 How come we had the state for thousands of years but only for a couple of decades do we have this problem?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490859450 118906899,118912823,2017-03-30 07:37:54,">>118909881 Get removed, faggot.",,Anonymous,hippity hoppity get off my property.jpg,B7dUzmLWkuGISCelso1NPA==,SK,,1490859474 118906899,118912860,2017-03-30 07:38:32,">>118912597 Why be libertarian in the first place then if fascism is more effective?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490859512 118906899,118912997,2017-03-30 07:40:20,">>118912271 >from the state The state is the one violating the NAP by expelling its citizens and replacing them by a hostile population.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490859620 118906899,118913065,2017-03-30 07:41:11,">>118912426 >roads Maybe the communities aren't in need of roads - which is perfectly possible. Maybe the communities need roads just ""within"" or there need to be roads between the covenants. Then it'll be agreed upon having them built by construction companies. Now you could say >but what if the covenant charges its own part of the road with too high tolls ? That might happen but this covenant will likely be ostracized from any trade then and a new road is like to be built that does not cross the property of that particular community. And >schools Private education will massively improve the situation as people don't send their kids to particular schools/unis when the quality of their teaching(s) is bullshit or they violate the NAP by instilling ideas (leftist profs) into the students which you aren't agreeing upon.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490859671 118906899,118913118,2017-03-30 07:41:59,">>118912426 A community gets together and finances a road, and schools are mostly community, too.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490859719 118906899,118913328,2017-03-30 07:45:20,">>118913065 Tolling boots will only worsen traffic so how would anyone agree with booths on every street? Also, how can low wage earners give their sons education to be more competitive when his job age comes?",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490859920 118906899,118913346,2017-03-30 07:45:38,">>118912691 I am not arguing against violence. I am arguing against a monopoly on it. Governments have an interest to loot their countries, and they get (((other funds))) too, whose (((payers))) have their own interests, too. Governments are their tools, not liberties.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490859938 118906899,118913496,2017-03-30 07:48:26,">>118913118 What about the argument of human nature? Also, we need a standard for education so a student might have a hard time transferring schools if the standards of every schools are not the same",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490860106 118906899,118913506,2017-03-30 07:48:34,">>118912860 We're not fascists because we love freedom, even if it means a hard life. We believe that the NAP is already violated and that peace is an illusion right now. Thus, private RWDS are needed to remove undesirables.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490860114 118906899,118913541,2017-03-30 07:49:01,">>118913496 *because",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490860141 118906899,118913764,2017-03-30 07:52:13,">>118913328 Noone says there will be tolling booths. But in case a community would toll its part of the road, they will face backlash and this ultimately won't be worth it. Private schools doesn't mean private as in today's private where you pay idk what 30k $ to send your kid there. Private means owned by the people themselves in first place. That means the private little communities can run a school where they school their own kids. There can also be private schools run by single people acting as CEO. The main point is that there is no monopoly on education so that you either can only get ultra shitty state education for free (community college) or super good education in ivy league universities. You're free to teach (or not) wherever you want and whatever you want. >>118913496 The educational standard is provided by the market. When there's a need for high class engineering products, noone would bother to teach their kids shit like gender studies etc.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490860333 118906899,118913932,2017-03-30 07:54:48,">>118913506 Based slovak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490860488 118906899,118914030,2017-03-30 07:56:32,">>118913496 It is human nature to cooperate in smaller groups. The school system would favour schools of a similar type, which would give students the bare necessities, with tutors leading them in a chosen direction after a base level of education is reached. This way, a bricklayer does not waste time in biology lessons and a chemist needn't bother with philosophy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490860592 118906899,118914034,2017-03-30 07:56:36,">>118913764 So a cooperative on all properties? Pretty good in theory but what about monopolies? Pretty sure that there are companies that would emerge to buy those properties/ Co-ops thus making companies the most powerful entities.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490860596 118906899,118914534,2017-03-30 08:04:16,">>118914030 That sounds more like a commune 2bh. We should also consider that human nature basically wants to earn profit than to help his commune thus the argument of communism fails at this area. >inb4 but we are libertarians reeeeeee Im basing it with your argument and that argument sounds like communistic to me",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490861056 118906899,118914771,2017-03-30 08:08:26,">>118914034 Well no cooperative on all properties but where the people wish or feel like it's going to be necessary/profitable. This (monopolies) is, of course, a possibility but it's very very unlikely something like that would ever happen, for several reasons (but not exclusively): When they want to buy everything there are the people. Property rights provide the libertarian basis. That means giving up on property is giving up your freedom, because when you have no external property (everything that's not your body) then you're at least temporarily denpendent on others. It's not likely that people would sell everything (including the schools that would run good and are beneficial to society). It would be acting against a low time preference rate. Then, IF for some reason this happened there're 2 scenarios of how it could've happened: 1.) By force (violence) and, thus, violating the NAP. In that case domestic terrorism and countereconomy will drive the coropration out, eventually. 2.) Voluntarily. In that case the people might've been short sightet. That's not a problem, however, as peopple are free to not send their kids to those schools and educate them on their own, meaning that the ""megacorp school"" would eventually go bankrupt. Actually there's a third scenario as well: The company buys property/businesses to expand. Now the people are smart and see how the company does it and will found infinite amounts of coroporations which the big corp would have to buy in order to preserve the monopoly. That ultimately makes the company go bankrupt as well.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490861306 118906899,118914945,2017-03-30 08:11:10,">>118914034 You can still be insured by different company even if you don't own property. If the development company buys up everything all they can do is remove you from their property otherwise the insurance company takes them to court or fucks them up. Now if you choose to be insured by these companies and they own everything then it's essentially neo-feudalism. But you would actually have to agree to live there. Also that's no longer ancap but neo-feudalism. I doubt it would be common.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490861470 118906899,118915152,2017-03-30 08:14:33,">>118914771 Nice. I can definitely use these arguments for tommorrow's Left-Right debate (im planning to be a Right Libertarian) but explaining NAP to normalfags is to tiring. Also, how could you answer the issue on exploitation? And what are your opinions about Distributism?",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490861673 118906899,118915312,2017-03-30 08:16:57,">>118913932 Thanks, senpai.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490861817 118906899,118915653,2017-03-30 08:21:47,">>118914945 >mfw feudalism will be brought back to life wtf I love Libertarianism now",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490862107 118906899,118915939,2017-03-30 08:26:16,">>118915653 Sounds worse than it actually is. Neocameralism is probably the next best thing to ancap. Shit it might be better even but I don't see it yet.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490862376 118906899,118916042,2017-03-30 08:27:47,">>118915939 Feudalism is pretty good if Kings know how to manage money. Im a monarchist btw",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490862467 118906899,118916229,2017-03-30 08:30:49,">>118916042 Yea I know. That's the point. Create a free market in governments and the best ones should come out on top. It's not like people people will be consigning themselves to slavery en mass. Unless they're actual cucks, in which case more power to them I guess. Just leave me out of it.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490862649 118906899,118916250,2017-03-30 08:31:10,">>118915152 For time preference rate, see Hoppe's ""Democracy ..."" p.7-8 iirc Exploitation is the main issue of modern statist societies. In general exploitation is a non-issue, because when the people start to feel exploited they either leave the company and go elsewhere - the employer would crumble and change or ""die"" (corporation-wise) - or the employer needs to improve working conditions/work time flexibility, you name it. That makes people not truly 100.00000% safe from exploitation - sure - but since exploitation is the massive violation of the NAP, then the monopoly rules apply as well. To Distributism: Same as with any other ideology. If the people of a community/covenant/microstate agree upon doing it, there's no problem with that. But to be honest it kinda looks like ""communism light"" if I may say so. The problem is always with the government. Because when there's a government (in the sense of state/nation etc.) - no matter how small it might be - it will always tend to expand and this can always be done only by enforcing violent and unvoluntary measure",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490862670 118906899,118916670,2017-03-30 08:37:00,">>118916250 I think the only role of the government should do is to impose cultural and private laws. But then again, how can it have an army/ police to protect its citizens from outside agression? How can it pay military spending if there are no taxes imposed? We cant just rely on militia",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490863020 118906899,118916839,2017-03-30 08:39:25,">>118916670 That's the point. Either you're not free, have a state that enforces violence upon the citizens in order to even sustain itself, or you're free, have an NAP, preventing aggression in first palce, and in case of violation there are insurers and private armies to retaliate.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490863165 118906899,118917028,2017-03-30 08:42:05,">>118916839 Or recreational nukes.",,Anonymous,1490855289503.jpg,SVoN1hZx2iUEv8o6YCLh4A==,DE,,1490863325 118906899,118917322,2017-03-30 08:46:34,">>118916839 But you just cant shout muh NAP to invaders. That obviously wont scare them away",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1490863594 118906899,118917559,2017-03-30 08:50:09,">>118917322 Well everyone knows it's there ;> But you're right, shouting ""NAP!!!!!11!!1"" won't help when you're actually getting invaded. That's why you have guns and other weapons to defend your property. If you live ""in a bad neighborhood"" of covenants so to speak, you can as well employ a private security service/army to protect your property etc..",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490863809 118906899,118918051,2017-03-30 08:57:09,">>118917322 Insurers would have access to nukes. Even if your local insurance company is small and can't afford nukes, they'd probably still be invited to an alliance of insurers to provide more effective protection against state aggression. Look at Slovenia. We're members of NATO and we hardly contribute fuck all. If it's private companies that organize this then at least the members will have to pay their share. And military equipment would probably fall quite a lot in price. Not to mention there's likely no interventionism under these companies. So other states would be way less likely to invade.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490864229 118906899,118918242,2017-03-30 09:00:07,">>118907435 >>118907624 I like the idea of a FAQ. Perhaps we should include something that's written by us and then integrate the quotes. Also, maybe we should do them in large scale images so we don't clog the thread with huge and successive OP posts before it gets off.",,Anonymous,1490193877254.png,Xmgr53Lp56r6Hik6/A1Mgg==,PT,,1490864407 118906899,118918335,2017-03-30 09:01:27,">>118917322 You murder them.",,Anonymous,1487669283433.jpg,D68euva1VU3oFLHSYl68Yw==,PT,,1490864487 118906899,118918834,2017-03-30 09:08:45,">>118918242 Yeah that's definitely a thing with the the pics. I mean OP posts are in principle 4 now - I just divide the Rothbard list into 2 posts to avoid ""spam"" - or 5 when I do the threads.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490864925 118906899,118918889,2017-03-30 09:09:30,">>118918242 Yeah I was thinking of making an image as well. Also give me good FAQs I got borders and degeneracy covered. Also give a source to answer any question you suggest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490864970 118906899,118918920,2017-03-30 09:09:56,"Would this be possible in an AnCap society? Should it be? Why/Why not? https://www.wsj.com/articles/with-washingtons-blessing-telecom-giants-can-mine-your-web-history-1490869801",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490864996 118906899,118919290,2017-03-30 09:14:27,">>118918889 I'd say we should include ""but what about neighboring states that try to invade?"" as well since it's also a meme question we get. I have pic related for that and I'm sure there are other articles and passages on the books for it, it's a matter of searching.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1490865267 118906899,118919396,2017-03-30 09:16:12,">>118918920 >make contract with company stating they will protect privacy of your information >they don't >they get sued",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490865372 118906899,118919469,2017-03-30 09:17:14,">>118918920 Tough question. On the one hand, when the company owns the infrastructure, they're free to do whatever unless otherwise written in a contract. Though, not mining data but just observing what is done at their infrastructure. BUT the browser history is physically written on the machines of the costumers, thus mining the browser history is done by using exploits/backdoors which is invasive and unvoluntary. And that's violation of the NAP. So no, I don't think that would be ""possible"" unless both parties agree. Because in that case non-violation if the NAP weighs more than ""silent agreement"".",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490865434 118906899,118919556,2017-03-30 09:18:23,">>118919469 >>118919396 Sounds reasonable, thanks lads",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490865503 118906899,118919774,2017-03-30 09:21:09,">>118914534 Oh well, it's voluntary. People in groups of around 200 actually know each other and can work together more easily for the sake of convenience.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490865669 118906899,118919794,2017-03-30 09:21:19,">>118919556 You're welcome",,Anonymous,1490743551657.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,DE,,1490865679 118906899,118920346,2017-03-30 09:28:40,">>118906899 Bump for justice",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490866120 118906899,118920720,2017-03-30 09:33:42,,,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU2NjY4NjQ3My5qcGcifQ.jRA9sqm02dUhW5XpJf1z9xHGd00.jpg,pvmnkuUUzHNOvOX6gnelBg==,DE,,1490866422 118906899,118920976,2017-03-30 09:36:37,">>118906899 Good. Tbh I'm tired of those ""socialism will work with white people dude lmao"" retards. Take back the board, remove any kind of socialist scum.",,Anonymous,tumblr_ojfqk64hjT1qh046no1_1280.jpg,M3xS7T2pQxxKoam1wAUoSA==,US,,1490866597 118906899,118921442,2017-03-30 09:42:07,">>118920976 >socialism is totally acceptable when only whites are enslaved",,Anonymous,1490561222159.jpg,3aAie9mBpk9j94NUQkRqEg==,DE,,1490866927 118906899,118922154,2017-03-30 09:50:47,">>118921442 >>118920976 Almost the whole soviet bloc was white and it still collapsed",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490867447 118906899,118922355,2017-03-30 09:53:07,"Alright fgts, let's settle this. Austrian school or Chicago school? And if hypothetically I was a Chicagofag who thought Austriafags were 2edgy4me who would I read to change my mind?",,Anonymous,1485946944615.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,US,,1490867587 118906899,118922616,2017-03-30 09:56:16,So in ancapistan can you do anything if your neighbour litters his garden and house with garbage?,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1490867776 118906899,118923339,2017-03-30 10:05:24,">>118922355 This article sums it up quite well I think: https://mises.org/library/chicago-school-versus-austrian-school >>118922616 When it's so bad that it doesn't only annoys you visually, but it decreases how much worth your property is. This it can be seen as aggression and then you're free to hire insurance companies",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490868324 118906899,118924216,2017-03-30 10:15:32,">>118907306 ""Part of the reason, of course, needs no explanation: a pale shadow of Big Government conservatives who crave respectability, social acceptance at Washington cocktail parties, and, not coincidentally, power, cushy jobs, and financial support. But there is a lot more at work here. At bottom is the point which many of us had to learn painfully over the years: that there can be no genuine separation between formal political ideology and cultural views and attitudes."" >Murray N. Rothbard Thanks for this.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490868932 118906899,118924256,2017-03-30 10:15:52,">>118923339 >free to hire insurance companies What are they going to do?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1490868952 118906899,118924365,2017-03-30 10:17:16,">>118924256 A wide range of things, same money collectors do today. Mostly annoy them.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490869036 118906899,118924857,2017-03-30 10:23:05,">>118924256 I've just noticed the army of typos in my last post reeeeeee Yeah basically if it decreases value, insurers fuck them over, because it can be technically seen as violation of the NAP. Not to mention that this is degenerate behavior and is most likely removed from the covenant anyway.",,Anonymous,removal34.png,TOcOz9IxGlYKTFvrm2FjjA==,DE,,1490869385 118906899,118925012,2017-03-30 10:24:50,">>118924216 You're welcome",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490869490 118906899,118925718,2017-03-30 10:32:53,">>118924857 Yeah but how exactly are insurance companies going to fuck them?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1490869973 118906899,118925728,2017-03-30 10:33:00,">>118924256 I don't think calling insurance companies would be a thing. Most likely the community will own the infrastructure and surrounding businesses anyway. So they just deny him access until he cleans up. And if he keeps trespassing then the insurers get involved.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490869980 118906899,118926301,2017-03-30 10:39:21,">>118925718 Acting as judge/court or enforcing a state in which the NAP is not violated for example directly, if the violation is abhorrent. But as I said and >>118925728, too, it's very likely he'll just get thrown out of the covenant for his blatant degeneracy which is then also most likely not compatible with the rules of your covenant",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490870361 118906899,118927133,2017-03-30 10:47:28,shameless self-bump,,Anonymous,1490844652609.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,DE,,1490870848 118906899,118927142,2017-03-30 10:47:31,">>118926301 >if the violation is abhorrent So you're gonna assault people that build a dildo-shaped house? It's a much easier solution to just live in a community that has more control over their residents. As in your water, heating, road access, power,...everything gets cut off if you're a dick for example. And maybe there's communities that find it funny. In any case you'd have the freedom to choose such communities but it's not up to the state to enforce these things.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490870851 118906899,118927457,2017-03-30 10:50:55,">>118927142 No, of course not. If the community is fine with a penis-shaped house there's no problem. I mean abhorrent in a sense of your property value significantly decreasing due to drastic things - smell, bugs, rats, the waste mountain so big it falls on your property etc. Other than that, that's what I said. The community will decide to ostracize you until you better the situation and if not they're going to remove you, because you're degenerate af or they're employ an insurer ... or drop reacreational napalm",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490871055 118906899,118927607,2017-03-30 10:52:30,">>118927457 *they're going to employ the fuck is wrong today -.-",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490871150 118906899,118927782,2017-03-30 10:54:17,">>118927457 >smell, bugs, rats, the waste mountain so big it falls on your property Yea, I agree in that case. Those are obviously harmful and potentially dangerous. I don't think judges would rule against you.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490871257 118906899,118928705,2017-03-30 11:04:24,">>118907435 Regarding the FAQ, definitely add what insurance companies are and which role they would take, because that seems to be a thing that's puzzling a good amount of people.",,Anonymous,1490721588544.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,DE,,1490871864 118906899,118929217,2017-03-30 11:10:06,">>118906899 Reminder Libertarianism is a Jewish psyop to control both sides of the debate and diminish Catholic social teaching which teaches that usury is a sin.",,Anonymous,emj.jpg,erwYc6bg2IFZnvwEPY9oQA==,US,,1490872206 118906899,118929713,2017-03-30 11:14:37,">>118929217 o-ok ... How about you provide some arguments beside >muh usury ? Also Catholicism is interspersed with degeneracy, worse than you could ever dream of. Now you're saying that's fine, because it's against usury. That's double standards at best.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490872477 118906899,118930066,2017-03-30 11:17:57,">>118929713 Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Murray Rothbard, etc, all Jewish. Libertarianism started being pushed by the National Review after it went kosher. Look at who Libertarianism benefits. Hint: its not the goyim.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490872677 118906899,118930400,2017-03-30 11:21:08,"Reminder that lolbertarianism is a leftist ideology. It takes the worst of the right (completely unregulated markets) and combines itself with the worst of the left (degeneracy is ok, faggotry is ok, and diversity is great).",,Anonymous,Civic Nationalism.jpg,uI/FC3DNo5Fq5pVpKytfqw==,US,,1490872868 118906899,118930490,2017-03-30 11:22:08,">>118930066 >Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Murray Rothbard von Hayek,Bastiat,Menger,Say are also very important in the libertarian world and they aren't Jewish",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490872928 118906899,118930628,2017-03-30 11:23:31,">>118930400 >degeneracy is ok, faggotry is ok, and diversity is great we are for discrimination dunce >It takes the worst of the right (completely unregulated markets) k go back to Venezuela",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490873011 118906899,118930757,2017-03-30 11:24:58,">>118930066 >they're jewish This is literally not argument. I mean not that I wouldn't be happy to debate. But ""DEEY DA JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ"" is a non-argument par excellence. see >>118930490 You seem to have a misconception anyway. We ain't Johnson-type libertarians with open borders and limitless inclusion and shit. We're Hoppe libertarians, ancaps, mincarchists etc.. We advocate for a universal right of discrimination, property rights and free association. Anti-state, anti-commies and -socialism, anti positive rights. Everyone is fine on their own property but if you straight up don't want to have certain people around, then you're free to enforce that within your covenant.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490873098 118906899,118930783,2017-03-30 11:25:12,">>118930628 >Anyone who doesn't think prisons for profit is great is a commie!",,Anonymous,Hitlerious.jpg,QCqUBXpQMYMbUJaRNDj/DQ==,US,,1490873112 118906899,118930795,2017-03-30 11:25:17,">>118930490 A Jew isn't just an ethnicity and religion; its a state of mind, a rejection of Logos.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490873117 118906899,118930989,2017-03-30 11:27:09,">>118930757 >This is literally not argument It literally is an argument you faggot molymemer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490873229 118906899,118931051,2017-03-30 11:27:46,">>118930795 >everybody I don't like is a jew now I get it also >a rejection of logos more like they use logos against you",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490873266 118906899,118931334,2017-03-30 11:30:30,">>118930795 >>118930989 gtfo with your lousy cult faggot",,Anonymous,removal2.png,r2I3QxRCafRrzTc5qYoQlQ==,DE,,1490873430 118906899,118931547,2017-03-30 11:32:32,">>118906899 Shia Lebouf HWNDU Ant Israel",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490873552 118906899,118931862,2017-03-30 11:35:43,">>118906899 April 15 Berkely Ca, will it be the rebirth of the Lion Guard? We need to stop the puppet Antifa and their master Soros plan for inciting civil war. https://youtu.be/CcGPTeUQkgM https://youtu.be/hcoAquxv7YI",,Anonymous,AltKnight.jpg,OCTPq/wLdi130munSqaluQ==,US,,1490873743 118906899,118932504,2017-03-30 11:42:25,">>118930783 >prisons for profit >without taxes",,Anonymous,Manul WHAT.jpg,3KsIcK/6Z0hU5xokgcpwTw==,SI,,1490874145 118906899,118932561,2017-03-30 11:42:55,"To get the thread rollin' again, I suggest you fgts do the more accurate 5d political compass and post results http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490874175 118906899,118932991,2017-03-30 11:47:12,">>118932561 I've got Objectivist Anarchist Total-Isolationist Nativist Reactionary",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490874432 118906899,118933011,2017-03-30 11:47:21,">>11893 Degenderacy is nothing but a myth, and if you believe that social conservatism works, kill yourself as you are too much of a dribbling retard to live.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490874441 118906899,118933192,2017-03-30 11:49:16,">>118932561 Objectivist Anarchist Total-Isolationist Nationalist Liberal",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490874556 118906899,118933428,2017-03-30 11:51:36,">>118906899 Oy vey",,Anonymous,Meet-the-Filthy-Libertarian-Anarcho-Capitalist-Jews-Ayn-Rand-Ludwig-von-Mises-Murry-Rothbard-Milton-Friedman.jpg,7TXcLGHXXw2qVKv2w2BvGQ==,FI,,1490874696 118906899,118933977,2017-03-30 11:57:44,">>118932561 Objectivist Anarchist Isolationist Nationalist Traditionalist",,Anonymous,1490707696147.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,CA,,1490875064 118906899,118934281,2017-03-30 12:00:39,">>118933428 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_Say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Bastiat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Menger all over and over again the same non-arguments",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490875239 118906899,118934533,2017-03-30 12:03:17,">>118912271 Democracy, and therefore the modern state, cannot help the west, because democracy allows people to socialize their terrible decisions, making them look less terrible than they are, or to show their terrible effects too slow to react. Relying in a ""good"" politician to represent your values is not only naive but also short sighted, this quote of Sowell applies not only to taxes, but also to immigration and personal values, you're giving society the right to impose your values, then don't complain when society uses this right against you, and it will.",,Anonymous,sowell-1.jpg,C4JE0clvF25N2JMbMJHRVQ==,MT,,1490875397 118906899,118934678,2017-03-30 12:04:49,">>118912860 It's not more effective. It lasts very little and has a tremendous knee jerk reaction. Real private property and the right to discriminate is the only way to guarantee your values are respected.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490875489 118906899,118935292,2017-03-30 12:11:08,">>118932504 mad max civilization",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490875868 118906899,118935708,2017-03-30 12:15:38,">>118906899 NEOPOL",,Anonymous,IMPOLRIUM.png,29v8CAiZYfjzXoKBR89mgQ==,GR,,1490876138 118906899,118935842,2017-03-30 12:17:01,">>118930757 >>118931051 >>118931334 Its embarrassing how quickly lolbertarians will defend Jewry when their meme ideology is challenged by an alt view.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490876221 118906899,118936067,2017-03-30 12:19:09,">>118935842 >counterpoints is defending Jewry you are a lost cause",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490876349 118906899,118936206,2017-03-30 12:20:35,">>118935842 >Fallacy of association >Alt view",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490876435 118906899,118936705,2017-03-30 12:25:45,Canadian politics kinda make me want to die senpai,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490876745 118906899,118937004,2017-03-30 12:28:38,"Can anyone recommend me some good British libertarians, don't seem to be many around and it depresses me",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490876918 118906899,118937186,2017-03-30 12:30:22,">>118933428 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490877022 118906899,118937332,2017-03-30 12:31:53,">>118909603 Add this image too",,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1490877113 118906899,118937345,2017-03-30 12:32:00,">>118937004 John Locke",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490877120 118906899,118937825,2017-03-30 12:36:19,">>118937004 That's because Jews don't dominate British culture to the extent that they dominate American culture. Thus Libertarianism is mostly an American phenomenon because Americans are the most gullible goyim.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490877379 118906899,118938422,2017-03-30 12:41:46,">>118937825 the first objectivist libertarian was Aristotle and during this period Jews were no name except for middle eastern empires",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490877706 118906899,118938663,2017-03-30 12:43:47,"This is an interesting general, bump",,Dead Bird,KIMG0367.jpg,OM7VzwamXtXWviVNKKJX9Q==,US,,1490877827 118906899,118938951,2017-03-30 12:46:29,">>118938422 >Aristotle >libertarian ""“The most hated sort, and with the greatest reason, is usury, which makes a gain out of money itself, and not from the natural object of it. For money was intended to be used in exchange, but not to increase at interest. And this term interest, which means the birth of money from money, is applied to the breeding of money because the offspring resembles the parent. Wherefore of an modes of getting wealth this is the most unnatural.” Aristotle would have been most outspoken against Libertarian Jewry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490877989 118906899,118939476,2017-03-30 12:51:15,">>118938951 >Aristotle considered the city to be a natural community. Moreover, he considered the city to be prior in importance to the family which in turn is prior to the individual, ""for the whole must of necessity be prior to the part"". >The aim of the city is not just to avoid injustice or for economic stability, but rather to allow at least some citizens the possibility to live a good life, and to perform beautiful acts >""The political partnership must be regarded, therefore, as being for the sake of noble actions, not for the sake of living together."" >Ayn Rand accredited Aristotle as ""the greatest philosopher in history"" and cited him as a major influence on her thinking banking is only a part of the libertarian philosophy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490878275 118906899,118939741,2017-03-30 12:54:02,">>118906899 Best thread",,Anonymous,xt5l3br3gqax.png,hp3gptXZJZ+MFR99FpDU3Q==,US,,1490878442 118906899,118939860,2017-03-30 12:55:07,">>118932561 You are a: Objectivist Anarchist Total-Isolationist Nativist Traditionalist Collectivism score: -100% Authoritarianism score: -100% Internationalism score: -100% Tribalism score: 50% Liberalism score: -17%",,Anonymous,1490736838706.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,DE,,1490878507 118906899,118939943,2017-03-30 12:55:56,">>118939860 based",,Anonymous,autism 2017.png,FCBxzeB66opaAHkT3m5jxg==,PT,,1490878556 118906899,118939981,2017-03-30 12:56:11,">>118939476 This line of thinking is compatible with quite a few ideologies not limited to Libertarianism. Aristotle was also a huge influence on Thomism, so there's that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490878571 118906899,118940746,2017-03-30 13:03:22,"While I like the underlying philosophies of libertarianism as a personal philosophy, I just can't see how a stateless society is at all practical. It might be possible to live in a society based off mutual consent, as long as the society is small. However, the continuation of such a society depends upon it operating in a vacuum, lest it be conquered by a statist neighbor. Furthermore, there are times when the economic best for a society does not match up with the social best, therefore, economic incentives cannot correct the problem. For example, if a local chemical corporation maximizes its productivity by pumping its waste product into the local river, this is bad for the community. The classic answer to this conundrum is that the society will stop buying from this company and punish it economically. However, what if the company sells its product to people outside the effected area? Its customers would have no motivation to give up their business. Do you remove it violently? Even if you band together as a whole community, the chemical company probably has more resources and can in essence buy more violence than you are capable of fielding. For circumstances such as these, there must be a state which can enforce the social good. For reasons of personal liberty, this state must not have a monopoly on force, but it must have access to more force than any other single entity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490879002 118906899,118940781,2017-03-30 13:03:43,">tfw college told me to take down my snek flag How far gone are colleges/universities in commie ideology?",,Anonymous,images.jpg,SiXl0PUA2ir2hb4wJdvT2g==,US,,1490879023 118906899,118940826,2017-03-30 13:04:06,">>118939943 Fuck yeah. Daily reminder that >EHRMAHGEHRD JOOOOOZ DID DE LIBERTARIANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is a non-argument.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490879046 118906899,118940932,2017-03-30 13:05:02,">>118940826 NOTHING IS AN A R G U M E N T",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490879102 118906899,118941078,2017-03-30 13:06:23,YFW Trump is now Paul Ryan's bitch.,,Anonymous,IMG_4408.jpg,ZIDOqAiOezDyTLrhYURWeg==,GB,,1490879183 118906899,118941246,2017-03-30 13:08:11,">>118940781 Sure depends on where you are. But the ones that have those ultra commie profs are deeeeeeeep down the shitter >>118940746 see >>118919290",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490879291 118906899,118941384,2017-03-30 13:09:26,">>118937825 You are the type of dumb faggot that would refuse water while stranded in a barren wasteland because a Jew offered it to him and it's likely a globalist plot. You fail to even put forward an argument against what you say is obviously such a shitty idea because it's 'Jewish subversion' Fuck off to stormfront you retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490879366 118906899,118941695,2017-03-30 13:12:21,">>118940746 >drop toxic shit on a river you don't own >people drink on it >dies >NAP mode activated >nuke except if the boss of the chemical corp own the river this is what would happen,and if its the case he would make more profit for selling water than killing it's consumers for toxic shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490879541 118906899,118942097,2017-03-30 13:16:00,">>118940746 Cant pollute the river when it's privately owned, not even kidding. And if the company owned the river people would still take legal action against the company for polutting their groundwater for example. A libertarian society does not imply no justice. Look into the tragedy of the commons, the only reason people polute public land is because no one has a vested interest in public land being polluted besides the government which is terribly inefficient at regulations. When you start polluting another companies land you are in some trouble though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490879760 118951119,118951119,2017-03-30 14:40:15,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - AUTISMO SNEK Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1490884815 118951119,118951213,2017-03-30 14:41:09,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490884869 118951119,118951242,2017-03-30 14:41:29,who will build the roads,,Anonymous,1488570237440.jpg,H9TjiqCnheVv8Buguki8Pg==,GB,,1490884889 118951119,118951274,2017-03-30 14:41:43,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490884903 118951119,118951375,2017-03-30 14:42:29,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490884949 118951119,118951529,2017-03-30 14:43:51,"NO TOLERANCE.",,Anonymous,stop paying taxes.png,raNoOj+E9uxCNlY23VpVxw==,PT,,1490885031 118951119,118951553,2017-03-30 14:44:01,">>118951242 Private companies",,Anonymous,1490795304796.png,iqzx98vJg7OpJqn3M3lC+g==,DE,,1490885041 118951119,118951887,2017-03-30 14:47:00,"Some questions. How will you deport illegals or have a strong border? How will you deal with inner city crime? How will you deal with people who are angry they're losing their gibs?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490885220 118951119,118952034,2017-03-30 14:48:23,"This ain't Johnson-tier libertarianism. Commies will be physically removed.",,Anonymous,1490713184063.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,DE,,1490885303 118951119,118952077,2017-03-30 14:48:48,">>118951887 right wing death squaaaaads",,Anonymous,profile.jpg,5mZyNfICe2yJIGjoxix2Og==,GB,,1490885328 118951119,118952140,2017-03-30 14:49:25,">>118951887 Illegals reduce the value of one's property and are in the country by infiltration (as opposed to invitation). Property owners would have the absolute right to deport (physically remove) unwanted people from their properties. Pic related. Borders would be erected to protect properties. >How will you deal with inner city crime? See the second pic I'll post in a minute. >How will you deal with people who are angry they're losing their gibs? Tough luck, get a job you fucking slob.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1490885365 118951119,118952171,2017-03-30 14:49:46,>>118951887,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1490885386 118951119,118952180,2017-03-30 14:49:53,"What is this general's opinion on our president, Donald J. Trump?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490885393 118951119,118952294,2017-03-30 14:51:00,Physical Remawoooval,,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo-old.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,US,,1490885460 118951119,118952458,2017-03-30 14:52:25,">>118951887 Where your property ends - or that of the community in which you're associating with other people and their property - is the border. Illegals are automtically driven out - because you're the one (or the covenant for that matter) who's going to live there and who doesn't. Also see my post above. Inner city crime see >>118952171 Gibs: Neets and gibs faggots BTFO'd. If there's a real and good reason you need help, there's charity",,Anonymous,1490841618173.jpg,AqqJ6ePzqe0bITAhMaxndA==,DE,,1490885545 118951119,118952502,2017-03-30 14:52:47,10/10,,Anonymous,1486668272602.png,KxxwkF2SwGTGeusXwUqNgw==,IS,,1490885567 118951119,118952525,2017-03-30 14:52:58,>>118951119,,Anonymous,don-t-tread-on-me-wallpaper-HD1.jpg,ZSNHj0m/ztlQmcVBKzdS7A==,US,,1490885578 118951119,118952588,2017-03-30 14:53:33,">>118952458 *to decide",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490885613 118951119,118952718,2017-03-30 14:54:43,"Jesus was a libertarian, the LRD accepts any who come to him through Christ of their OWN ACCORD. None may be forced into Heaven and many will choose Hell.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490885683 118951119,118952901,2017-03-30 14:56:26,anarcho-capitalists and libertarians are fucking autists and rothbard is a fucking jew,,Anonymous,16640824_128967930955972_2825645838018034048_n.jpg,FIpdH2XuHheyopQ9Ba3ZaA==,RO,,1490885786 118951119,118953025,2017-03-30 14:57:34,"The board has no idea what AnCap means because of extensive disinfo and infiltration of libertarian groups by the US government. Hoppe can break the conditioning in about 30 minutes. part 1: https://youtu.be/f82mHHAt6yI?t=6m5s part 2: https://youtu.be/0IEQmuaJeew",,Anonymous,hoppe dems.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,US,,1490885854 118951119,118953050,2017-03-30 14:57:44,Bost ancuck memes,,Anonymous,image.jpg,rC9ekX4RTVH70dMRGih2iw==,US,,1490885864 118951119,118953194,2017-03-30 14:59:02,">>118952901 And what's your argument ? >rothbard is a fucking jew ain't an argument. You know what time it is crypto-commie faggot",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1490885942 118951119,118953380,2017-03-30 15:00:33,">>118953025 Is that his talk at Müncher Wirtschaftsgespräche-summit ? That's a fucking eye opener that everyone should watch",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490886033 118951119,118953386,2017-03-30 15:00:35,">>118952458 With her, I would do missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490886035 118951119,118953735,2017-03-30 15:03:29,">>118953386 >for the sole purpose of procreation kek'd",,Anonymous,1490713534644.jpg,XnweBGBJLV0zaU1eNKLVyw==,DE,,1490886209 118951119,118953815,2017-03-30 15:04:14,">>118952901 ayy DEH JOOSSS >Hitler financed by jews >loved the zionist flag >went to jewish cafes You commie",,Anonymous,xt5l3br3gqax.png,hp3gptXZJZ+MFR99FpDU3Q==,US,,1490886254 118951119,118954376,2017-03-30 15:09:09,">>118951119 Reading: general -> ""Anatomy of the State"", Rothbard; then ""Democracy - The God that Failed"" Hoppe: pic related",,Anonymous,1490563413200.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,DE,,1490886549 118951119,118954769,2017-03-30 15:12:36,">>118953050 bad bad good",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490886756 118951119,118954778,2017-03-30 15:12:42,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490886762 118951119,118954939,2017-03-30 15:14:01,">>118953380 No it's the one in Sidney, 2011. I haven't seen he Munich lecture.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490886841 118951119,118955218,2017-03-30 15:16:41,">>118952180 Eh. He's their kryptonite, at the very least.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490887001 118951119,118955379,2017-03-30 15:18:04,">>118952901 And you're a fucking undesirable and will be treated as such. Dresden best day of my life.",,Anonymous,1490813253587.gif,fA8d4fRfjETl4ObMpUDkGw==,SK,,1490887084 118951119,118955814,2017-03-30 15:21:45,">>118951119 1. What is the libertarian response to the monopoly problem? 2. How consumers can be safe that the product they bought doesn't have some dangerous chemicals in it when there is no regulation",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1490887305 118951119,118958274,2017-03-30 15:42:01,">>118955814 >1. What is the libertarian response to the monopoly problem? No monopolies without a state. A company could only become a natural monopoly, not an artificial one. >2. How consumers can be safe that the product they bought doesn't have some dangerous chemicals in it when there is no regulation Independently-funded private agencies like the FDA would catalog new products and put their stamps of approval on what they considered safe, thus giving consumers assurance and a seal of quality.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490888521 118951119,118958772,2017-03-30 15:46:04,"Where is the line drawn between ""he wouldn't get off my property so I had to shoot him because it violated the NAP"" and ""His annoying voice violated the NAP on my eardrums, so I had to shoot him""? It's an intentional simplification but I still want to know in general how this is decided without relying on some arbitrary appeal to ""Well, the last one is silly!"" (unless, of course, speaking to someone without consent *is* reasonable grounds for having your legs blown off with a machine gun - but then what of violating my eyes with a garish shirt? and back to a less silly thing, causing seizures with a light display on your property)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490888764 118951119,118960055,2017-03-30 15:57:16,">>118958772 If you and your neighbor both lack insurance companies, then you just have your own weapons and force to protect yourselves. Your neighbor would be more careful around you and you around him. More likely you would both have an insurance company and your contracts would define murder in a reasonable way and punish you for it. If you were some kind of maniacal killer, the insurance companies would have you killed. This kind of question suggest you've only heard the memes about AnCap. Watch Hoppe for 30 minutes why not?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490889436 118951119,118960618,2017-03-30 16:01:36,How do you dumbfucks mitigate this?,,Anonymous,8736516384126.png,Whdwir6oX+tJ5OLdh0Dyzw==,US,,1490889696 118951119,118962017,2017-03-30 16:13:38,">>118954939 Oh I c. Well, the Munich talk from last year is top notch. Gonna watch this one tomorrow >>118960618 What we have today are monopolies which aren't natural. They arose through state regulations of the market because of unfair competition through corruption (lobbyism) and the fact that today's states bail out everything as long as it's just big enough so that the companies and banks don't need to act in accordance to the peoples interest and don't need to watch their resources. Capitalism is free people on a free market and enough competition without regulations that it'd be virtuallly impossible to form monopolies as when that happened, people would just found new corporations as competition or simply switch sellers/producers of the particular monopolized good you think is traded by unfair means.",,Anonymous,1490736157031.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,DE,,1490890418 118951119,118963058,2017-03-30 16:22:29,Oh i c everyone is arguing in that shitty bait thread ;D,,Anonymous,1490868595080.png,ZJUzc6WPaHObMTxjZmkz+Q==,DE,,1490890949 118951119,118964535,2017-03-30 16:34:12,"Desperate self bump, comon it's time the muricans awaken. Don't let yourself be driven off by the memes and shit.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490891652 118951119,118964696,2017-03-30 16:35:26,">>118960618 Doublethink, easy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490891726 118951119,118964910,2017-03-30 16:36:57,,,Anonymous,1490555959619.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,US,,1490891817 118951119,118965068,2017-03-30 16:38:17,">>118951242 Toll road and gyrocopter master race reporting in.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490891897 118951119,118965251,2017-03-30 16:39:44,">>118963058 >death to the burgeois >kill murder loot i actually have those opinions in common with antifa",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490891984 118951119,118965528,2017-03-30 16:41:46,>>118965251,,Anonymous,rm0mcm.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1490892106 118951119,118965744,2017-03-30 16:43:28,">>118951119 What should I read first ? I know there a reading list but I am supposed to read it in order ? Here's my anticom set, r8 please.",,Sage,set.png,NB+zKgUFl+3Di6Tmdo3hKA==,FR,,1490892208 118951119,118965812,2017-03-30 16:44:00,">>118965251 >>death to the burgeois >>kill murder loot Why ?",,Anonymous,1490873315223.jpg,LIOHfK9V9BhGr4hGzslqvg==,DE,,1490892240 118951119,118965838,2017-03-30 16:44:10,">>118965528 i dont think so since im a nutjob from an east european backwater village and you are a bunch of westerner larper pussies",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490892250 118951119,118965840,2017-03-30 16:44:12,">have to pay rent or landlord's insurance company will physically remove me so to speak >nowhere to go to escape this as all property in the former US has been privitized >but it's okay because now they're not called ""taxes"" or ""police""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490892252 118951119,118965942,2017-03-30 16:45:06,">>118965744 see >>118954376 Generally it is recommended with Anatomy of the State so you get the general idea.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490892306 118951119,118965957,2017-03-30 16:45:12,BUMP THIS THREAD,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490892312 118951119,118966038,2017-03-30 16:45:47,">>118965812 my family were solidly wealthy farmers and local governors in the old days until burgeois and commies came and ruined everything id give literally anything for a chance at revenge",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490892347 118951119,118966039,2017-03-30 16:45:47,">>118965251 Time to physically remove you, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490892347 118951119,118966089,2017-03-30 16:46:15,">>118965957 FOR GREAT JUSTICE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490892375 118951119,118966126,2017-03-30 16:46:29,">>118965942 Thanks !",,Sage,,,FR,,1490892389 118951119,118966208,2017-03-30 16:47:03,">>118966038 Holy fuck same thing here man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490892423 118951119,118966237,2017-03-30 16:47:17,">>118952180 He is ok because he is cutting regulations, gun laws and taxes, but he is also anti-abortion, anti-drug legalization and has increased military spending which all suck. He is anti globalist which is great though. Better than Obummer and Bush, but still not as good as not having a government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490892437 118951119,118966453,2017-03-30 16:48:42,">>118965840 Why would you have to pay rent ? What if the landlord let's you live on his property, beause that's part of your payment if you work for him ? You assume that rent is an absolute must. That's wrong >>118966126 You're welcome breh. Also Anatomy is really good and easy + fast to read (1-2 hours, maybe 3 if you're a slow reader)",,Anonymous,1490841690660.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,DE,,1490892522 118951119,118966456,2017-03-30 16:48:43,">>118966237 >anti-abortion >anti-drug legalization >increased military spending >bad i see ive stumbled into redit generals",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490892523 118951119,118966956,2017-03-30 16:52:44,">>118966456 >surprised that libertarians want less regulations and the liberty to choose to abort or use drugs >le reddit boogeyman",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490892764 118951119,118967200,2017-03-30 16:54:46,">>118966956 you know that society will collapse and turn into the fallout game taht way, right? everyone will abort and birth rates, sexual morals will disappear promiscuity and braindead junckies will be the norm until a dude appears that says its all bullshit and kill all of libertarians in a mass uprising because they fucked up society",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490892886 118951119,118967304,2017-03-30 16:55:30,">>118967200 nice slippery slope fallacy my dude unfortunately that isn't an argument",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490892930 118951119,118967518,2017-03-30 16:57:11,">>118966456 It actually is, because it's still illegitimate increase of governmental power at the costs of everyone. When they illegalize abortion again, it's just a small stop towards telling everyone who and when to fuck. I'm against abortion, too, but that's no reason to give governments full control. Same goes with military spending. As long as the interventionism does not stop generally, not just that of americans, we will not be able to push anything towards a true moral libertarian or even anarchistic society, as paradox as that sounds when it comes to abortion and drug use",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490893031 118951119,118967794,2017-03-30 16:59:14,">>118967304 it would be slippery slope if we were talking about something minor this is about changing the whole fucking society upside down in a way it hasnt been done before a la bolshevik way you really think its slipper slope to expect something to go wrong oops, i forgot that ""not an argument"" is just a magical word you were taught to repel all of the wrong opinions with by your cult grand master",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490893154 118951119,118967901,2017-03-30 17:00:05,">>118967518 The deeper the governments fist in your ass, the harder and more painful it'll be to pull it out eventually. And to be honest, it couldn't get any worse than at this point anyway",,Anonymous,nguhAD6.jpg,POZTvIIakZSY2L4HjigSyw==,DE,,1490893205 118951119,118967935,2017-03-30 17:00:18,">>118953386 you sick fuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490893218 118951119,118967961,2017-03-30 17:00:33,">>118967794 >Provide no evidence >I'm right and you're not checkmate Where did I say we would just one day completely and out of nowhere overthrow the government?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490893233 118951119,118968106,2017-03-30 17:01:45,">>118966956 Abortion violates the NAP. You can't be for abortion and be a libertarian. I'm all for legalizing drugs though.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490893305 118951119,118968209,2017-03-30 17:02:33,">>118968106 >Abortion violates the NAP. Depends if you consider the fetus a life or not.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490893353 118951119,118968220,2017-03-30 17:02:37,">>118952901 You are a commie and you need to die. Out of the helicopter you go.",,Anonymous,1490461809548.jpg,qU47mhAMIBKFJ+5HKziGSQ==,US,,1490893357 118951119,118968240,2017-03-30 17:02:44,">>118967518 yeah, not like sexual control have been the rule for the entire history of mankind youve been reading too much freud >interventionism yea, militay spending is about interventionism, not about enemy ermies of millions wanting to exterminate and enslave you for more land for them if you want to die feel free to advocate for less military spending",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490893364 118951119,118968298,2017-03-30 17:03:13,">>118967961 where did i say that you said that",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490893393 118951119,118968352,2017-03-30 17:03:36,">>118968209 If left alone it becomes a fucking human. It is life.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490893416 118951119,118968432,2017-03-30 17:04:14,"Hey /lrg/ bros I recently got into a debate in the Youtube comments with a Keynesian over healthcare and education. Any voluntary help would be much appreciated. I'm Max Headroom. https://youtu.be/qzzfXWMizno",,Anonymous,ancap pepe.jpg,QXnKKlH6/OEU76my9xUz/A==,US,,1490893454 118951119,118968532,2017-03-30 17:04:58,">>118968352 but as i said this is redit generals, about people wanting teh society to release them of all responsibility, not about freedom",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490893498 118951119,118968541,2017-03-30 17:05:01,">>118968298 Well if you transition into it slowly the effects of the change aren't going to be as severe like you implied when you said: >you know that society will collapse and turn into the fallout game taht way, right? >everyone will abort and birth rates, sexual morals will disappear >promiscuity and braindead junckies will be the norm",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490893501 118951119,118968794,2017-03-30 17:07:07,">>118968541 >if you slowly descend into a snake pit rather that quickly you wont get hurt fuck the system brother",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490893627 118951119,118968887,2017-03-30 17:07:51,">>118968432 heres a tip: regulated privatized education",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490893671 118951119,118968894,2017-03-30 17:07:58,">>118968240 You're exaggerating way too much bro. Sure, u gotta defend. But increasing military spending is in 99% of the cases some form of ""invade somwhere because muh freedom"" or ""oh mr. weapon seller gave me 2 million and a nice taiwanese sex slave for buying some of those totally cool and new tanks and planes"".",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490893678 118951119,118968908,2017-03-30 17:08:02,">>118966456 I am anti drug, anti abortion, and pro violence though. I just prefer no government.",,Anonymous,1490416416584.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1490893682 118951119,118969132,2017-03-30 17:09:45,">>118968908 Pro-violence? More like Edgy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490893785 118951119,118969159,2017-03-30 17:10:01,">>118968908 are you me? >>118968894 increasing millitary spending means not getting murdered by lunatic serbs in the middle of the night something youll learn after your country gets to shit from immigration and you stop living sheltered",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490893801 118951119,118969284,2017-03-30 17:11:02,">>118968352 Ok then take it out of the womb and see if it becomes a human. Oh wait it stopped breathing and its heart stopped beating. Lol. I guess it was a part of the woman's body after all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490893862 118951119,118969518,2017-03-30 17:12:53,">>118968352 If left alone it might, but at present it isn't. Thus I disagree. Arguing this doesn't ever get anywhere, though.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490893973 118951119,118969620,2017-03-30 17:13:38,">>118969284 i guess simese twins arent humans either",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490894018 118951119,118969697,2017-03-30 17:14:23,">>118969159 I'm talking about Trump increasing military spending. Not about your local situation, which I don't know shit about. Croatia isn't fucking around everywhere like >YOU CAN HAVE DEMOCRACY AND YOU CAN HAVE DEMOCRACY AND YOU CAN HAVE IT TOO !",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490894063 118951119,118969885,2017-03-30 17:16:12,">>118969132 I guess defending yourself and throwing communists out of privately owned helicopters is edgy now and advocating for the use of gas chambers against jews for the same exact reason isn't because a state is involved. Cool story bro.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490894172 118951119,118969918,2017-03-30 17:16:28,">>118969697 thats true because usa has no enemies only croatia has enemies libtards inability to think abstractly keeps puzzling me",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490894188 118951119,118969935,2017-03-30 17:16:39,">>118968887 >regulated privatized education what did he mean by this contradiction?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490894199 118951119,118970082,2017-03-30 17:17:46,">>118969935 it means you let education to be privatized, but make regulations so they cant do whatever weird shit they want something that eludes libtards - responsibility and social cohesion",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490894266 118951119,118970224,2017-03-30 17:18:58,>>118969918,,Anonymous,1490561222159.jpg,3aAie9mBpk9j94NUQkRqEg==,DE,,1490894338 118951119,118970690,2017-03-30 17:23:01,">>118951119 halp, these threads have been getting me uppity lately. Was just out to dinner and my family was commenting on liberals. Couldn't help but comment on how they were all commies. My dad brought up ""I'm libertarian in the sense that government should only protect our borders, property, and security"". I asked if he understood how it's possible without government, and then almost went on a rant about polycentric law. Pls help, I must be put down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490894581 118951119,118970729,2017-03-30 17:23:19,">>118969620 That is an invalid argument. You can separate siamese twins and they will usually live. If you can't then that doesn't give you the right to kill both of them. Abortion is not killing somebody, it is ceasing to provide them with life. It's just like taking welfare away from niggers in an industrialized society. It's not an NAP violation at all, and even if it were it's not like the fetus could defend itself so it doesn't matter.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490894599 118951119,118970923,2017-03-30 17:24:58,">>118970729 you can put babies that got out early into incubators and they will live jsut like siames twins will live if done properly separated, but wont if you chop them in half with an axe",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490894698 118951119,118971064,2017-03-30 17:26:10,">>118970729 >Abortion is not killing somebody, it is ceasing to provide them with life. so is pulling old people out of life support",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490894770 118951119,118971065,2017-03-30 17:26:10,">>118951242 Where we're going, we don't need roads to see.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490894770 118951119,118971217,2017-03-30 17:27:27,">>118970729 >taking welfare away from niggers in an industrialized society >aborting children must takes some hardcore mental gymnastics to equalize that",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490894847 118951119,118971219,2017-03-30 17:27:28,">>118970923 Ok then the fetus should surely crawl its way into an incubator because it is a living human right? The siamese twins chose to go to the surgeon but the fetus never chose to live.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490894848 118951119,118971286,2017-03-30 17:28:01,"come invade the senate here with us so we can create /whitelibertarianethnostate/ http://oppressive.games/power/main.php",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490894881 118951119,118971378,2017-03-30 17:28:49,">>118970729 >it's not like the fetus could defend itself so it doesn't matter oh boy so now you are advocating for removal of anyone who cant defend themself and are a bother to someone bye bye invalids bye bye plants bye bye retards off to the gas chamber you go",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490894929 118951119,118971400,2017-03-30 17:28:54,">>118971286 remember to join the LP btw, the lp on here isn't cucked like the real lp.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490894934 118951119,118971558,2017-03-30 17:30:01,">>118970690 If there's a government you practically have no property, because if needed, the government can confiscate it and you'll never see it again. So there's that. I don't know what his problem is. There's virtually no polycentric law, because you have the ""laws"" (principles) that are prevalent on the properties or communities. There's no competition of ""which law is best"" etc.. Either you submit to the landlords principles or you go or are removed.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490895001 118951119,118971614,2017-03-30 17:30:29,"What is to prevent the possibility of a libertarian association of many people -- perhaps several hundred thousands -- of forming in such a way that it more or less replicated the basic framework of a country? In other words, supposing for a moment a world of complete private property as envisioned by Hoppe, would there not be the possibility of the formation of a sort of land owner community, with a constitution and a ""private"" security service, with a communal process through which rules would be applied within said land owner community? These rules would, of course, include the payment modalities for the members involved. All of this, then, would more or less constitute a re-creation of a state with a system of tax and law making. (I actually like lolbertarian.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490895029 118951119,118971658,2017-03-30 17:30:55,">>118971219 >ability to walk indicates wheter human or not invalids are not human then i guess >the fetus never chose to live neither did to die",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1490895055 118951119,118971818,2017-03-30 17:32:07,">>118971558 I mean no polycentric whatsoever law in a government-less ancap society",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490895127 118951119,118971882,2017-03-30 17:32:38,">>118971064 Exactly. People are able to pull life support without violating the NAP and abortion is exactly the same.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490895158 118951119,118972097,2017-03-30 17:34:39,">>118971614 >What is to prevent the possibility of a libertarian association of many people -- perhaps several hundred thousands -- of forming in such a way that it more or less replicated the basic framework of a country? If it's voluntary, go ahead. But let's say 90% of the people in that geographical area vote for forming a state (a monopoly): the other 10% would have to be left alone and their properties (which would be landlocked) would have to be treated as foreign embassies and with the utmost respect, and those persons could not be taxed, vote, or participate in the new monopoly's public life. They would have to be left alone. But, you know, good luck having people form a monopoly again when life is really going swell under Ansnekistan.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490895279 118951119,118972116,2017-03-30 17:34:47,">>118971378 Do you unironically have a problem with this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490895287 118951119,118972299,2017-03-30 17:36:13,">>118971882 It seems that there's a clear distinction between someone on life support and a fetus. The former HAS been a person at some point while the other, depending on your definition, has not. But, more to the point, we do pull life support from people whose hope of ""coming back"" are essentially zero. If the argument is then that abortion is as letting someone who is no longer conscious or in a vegetative state go, then the conclusion should be, a priori, that there can be some cases, perhaps many, perhaps all, in which abortion should be allowed.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490895373 118951119,118972399,2017-03-30 17:37:14,">>118971658 >implying letting invalids die is murder Ok then. I'm a murderer. I have never fed an invalid in my life. Send me to prison.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490895434 118951119,118972464,2017-03-30 17:37:44,">>118971614 Oh that's absolutely possible. It just wouldn't be very practical, because this ""country-like"" association/community would suffer the same problems states suffer of in first place. Slow economy, large bueaucracy, impaired freedom - if any (when you consider our momentary state as non-free) - and the fact that things would have to happen at least partially unvoluntarily (""voting"", ""elections"", ""referendums"") in order to do something of which not exactly 100% would be fond of. It would overall be a decrease in freedom and a formation of a new state-like monopoly which was abandoned in first place.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490895464 118951119,118972857,2017-03-30 17:41:30,">>118972097 >But, you know, good luck having people form a monopoly again when life is really going swell under Ansnekistan. I don't see that as an impossibility. The question is a fundamentally political one, and concerns the use of force. While the NAP sounds nice, and while it may be correct to suppose that the overall wealth would increase under an ancap system, it seems to me not entirely implausible that a mass may form at any time which would then use force so as the seize the wealth of others. Such a group might, as I have said, form through a voluntary association, not at first establishing a state but rather an entity tasked with securing their ""border"". The potential for a drift toward statism would then be rather great and, more importantly, the possibility of ""secession"" for individual members would not be guaranteed by anything. To what entity could they appeal to in the event that they wanted to leave or disassociate themselves from the pseudo-country in the event that others prevented them from doing so? Since the overall society is ""ancap"" in nature, there is no government to go to for arbitrage. The only entity they could call on for help would be other private individuals or organizations.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490895690 118951119,118973047,2017-03-30 17:43:19,">>118971064 According to Hoppe, you begin to have rights as soon as you demonstrate a capacity for argumentation (answering Yes or No to questions), so if you pulled a plug on someone who had already showed a capacity for argumentation and was not in a permanent vegetative state (braindead), it would be murder. However, if you pulled a plug on a baby (aborted it) or on a person born as an absolute retard with no self awareness and other forms of monstrosities, then killing ""it"" would be permitted. The social costs you'd incur upon yourself by those decisions would, however, be perhaps the main factor in determining how you decide. Perhaps you live in a conservative community that would deter you from aborting the fetus or killing the retard (otherwise they'd make life hell for you through ostracism, refusal to a service, death stares, contempt, etc.) or perhaps you live in a highly liberal community and they'd even encourage you and hail you as a progressive. It all depends on the covenant you live in and the people you associate yourself with. But I'm sure that insurance companies would let the insured choose what ought to happen to them if they become permanently braindead or something similar, and what is to be done to them and the body.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490895799 118951119,118973099,2017-03-30 17:43:44,"Hey wassap guys still working on that FAQ, What's with all the libertarian hate threads today? Who is plotting against us? should we worry about it? or is this just the result of our notoriety?",,Anonymous,Banner.png,nYdagc4xxLqNBLQdxrNn3g==,US,,1490895824 118951119,118973405,2017-03-30 17:46:39,">>118972299 I think pulling the plug on life support should ALWAYS be allowed if the life support is your private property or if the owner of the life support has given you permission. By extension, the owner of the property the supported person is on should be able to kill that person. Same logic goes for umbilical chords and wombs. Many states have castle laws that allow you to kill invaders on your private property. A fetus, even if living, is an invader on the private property of your body and therefore has no rights. If you intentionally get pregnant and have an abortion that is murder, but under no other circumstances.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490895999 118951119,118973575,2017-03-30 17:48:08,">>118972857 >the possibility of ""secession"" for individual members would not be guaranteed by anything It could easily be safeguarded by the other competing insurance agencies who would not be in favor of having a state around to aggress against people. A state becomes a state by a) being the ultimate arbiter in a given territorial area; and b) by unilaterally imposing the price which people must pay for its services (taxes). If this hypothetical group tried to prop up a state, people would most likely resist it. Why would they want to subject themselves to taxes and a monopoly when they could be insured by competing agencies that actually have skin in the game?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490896088 118951119,118973663,2017-03-30 17:48:48,">>118973099 (((they're))) starting to notice we're the new kid in town, redpilling whites, and we're causing a ruckus.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490896128 118951119,118973716,2017-03-30 17:49:17,">>118973099 We gained some traction and the contrarians immediately swarm out to set our ideas on fire. Obviously that doesn't work as we're not some retarded stormies and ancapism would actually work lel >tfw some random assholes try to enforce their dumbfuck ideology on you",,Anonymous,removal34.png,TOcOz9IxGlYKTFvrm2FjjA==,DE,,1490896157 118951119,118973863,2017-03-30 17:50:36,">>118973405 But usually you don't want to abort a planned kid lel",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490896236 118951119,118974353,2017-03-30 17:54:38,Guys: how about also adding some Hoppe/Mises Institute/PFS lectures as an addition to the written/image FAQ?,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490896478 118951119,118974469,2017-03-30 17:55:38,">>118973575 >who would not be in favor of having a state around to aggress against people. Can one commit an act of aggression against another on the basis of a fear of future violation of the NAP? In the Ancap society, is everyone his own judge in the matter of who has and has not violated the NAP? I'm more of a non doctrinaire minarchist because I do not believe that the kind of problems I'm outlining here can actually be answered with assumption about people's good or relatively good behavior. Rather, it is more prudent to assume that people will want something that is not compatible with the system being devised. (I like Democracy: a god that failed for its analysis of government system in terms of its impact on time preference. This, however, is not really a libertarian tool of analysis but rather an Austrian one.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490896538 118951119,118974471,2017-03-30 17:55:40,">>118973863 I had one of my girlfriends say that she wanted to have a baby just to abort it. It is actually a fetish for some people. I didn't break up with her though because she was a very good sub. She let me do anything to her including rape and borderline murder by choking. It was all consentual though so not real rape I guess. Voluntary interactions between humans and all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490896540 118951119,118974762,2017-03-30 17:57:56,">>118974471 >fetishes today absolutely degenerate lel",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490896676 118951119,118974942,2017-03-30 17:59:32,">>118974469 >Can one commit an act of aggression against another on the basis of a fear of future violation of the NAP? Rothbard said that the threat had to be immediate and tangible. You couldn't murder someone who told you ""Tomorrow I will murder you."" You'd have to actually wait for the day after and for him to show up so you could murder him in self-defense (otherwise you could go around beating people up because of what you considered a ""threat""). >In the Ancap society, is everyone his own judge in the matter of who has and has not violated the NAP? People would most likely resort to someone from the natural elite or their respective insurance/defense agencies to settle NAP violation disputes. >>118974471 Absolutely degenerate, the baby part that is.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490896772 118951119,118974977,2017-03-30 17:59:50,">>118974353 Maybe it'd be a good idea to make a YT (or wherever) playlist with his lectures and talks so we have it condensed and don't risk to spam whole posts with only his lectures ... I mean it's a shitton ;D",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490896790 118951119,118975018,2017-03-30 18:00:12,">>118973099 Its definitely organized divide and conquer shilling. If each one of us on this thread creates a counter thread to those ones it should defeat their little plot.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490896812 118951119,118975309,2017-03-30 18:02:45,">>118974942 >People would most likely resort to someone from the natural elite or their respective insurance/defense agencies to settle NAP violation disputes. That really sounds like the olden time concept of a ""judge"" in the pre-Islamic Arabian peninsula. This suggest that an Ancap society in which a bout of destabilizing aggression had occurred might actually revert to a form of literal tribalism, in which kin relationships are the only guarantees strong enough to insure solidarity and mutual safety among individual. Though I do believe that it would require an initial destabilizing event.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490896965 118951119,118975465,2017-03-30 18:04:04,">>118975018 I'd actually not want to resort to those tactics. At the moment the threads pretty much speak for themselves. And as long as I'm the OP, I, too, make sure they're on page one at least every 3-5 minutes, in case the pace is slow.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490897044 118951119,118975531,2017-03-30 18:04:42,">>118974762 This girl was a legitimate degenerate. She was a meth/drug addict but at least she was racial realist lol. I was also kinda degenerate at the time. I did meth one time with her but I was a polydrug addict in general. The only reason I never got addicted to meth was because it kept me awake for three days, turned my fingers blue, and made me temporarily retarded for a week after only one line lol. Wasn't about to do that shit again. I smoked five grams of weed a day though. I am hardcore straightedge now. No caffeine, no cigs, no kush, no booze. Fuck all drugs. They should be legal though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490897082 118951119,118975707,2017-03-30 18:06:06,"Im gonna turn the text from my next post to the first image of the FAQ post, I'm trying to answer the question shortly myself before the quote but It got a bit long lemme know if you can say it in less words with roughly the same message.",,Anonymous,Generals.png,CX37xCo29T6LONyxnDyKZw==,US,,1490897166 118951119,118975747,2017-03-30 18:06:25,"Some cucky fag told me Anarcho-Capitalists are in favor of an ""Open Borders"" policy. Is this true? No. No one has a right to occupy any property without the consent of the owner. No one has a right to make you to allow immigrants onto your property. Some “Libertarians” Claim that people have a right to what they call (((Free Migration.))) This is incorrect as said before; no one has a right to occupy any property without the consent of the owner. To do so would qualify as an aggression. > not even the most restrictive immigration policy or the most exclusive form of segregationism has anything to do with a rejection of free trade and the adoption of protectionism. From the fact that one does not want to associate with or live in a neighborhood of Germans, Haitians, Chinese, Koreans, Mexicans, Moslems, Hindus, Catholics, etc., it does not follow that one does not want to trade with them from a distance. Moreover, even if it were the case that one's real income would rise as a result of immigration, it does not follow that immigration must be considered ""good,"" for material wealth is not the only thing that matters. Rather, what constitutes ""welfare"" and ""wealth"" is subjective, and one might prefer lower material living standards and a greater distance from certain other people over higher material living standards and a smaller distance. It is precisely the absolute voluntariness of human association and separation-the absence of any form of forced integration-which makes peaceful relationships-free trade-between racially, ethnically, linguistically, religiously, or culturally distinct people possible. -Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490897185 118951119,118975845,2017-03-30 18:07:15,">>118974942 Agreed. It was degenerate as fuck. This same girl had a miscarriage in the toilet when she was 15 and didn't even know she was pregnant XD",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490897235 118951119,118976322,2017-03-30 18:11:04,">>118975531 That's great. And I agree. That fetish shit though .. physical removal imminent",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490897464 118951119,118976424,2017-03-30 18:11:55,So seeing as anarcho-capitalism is a value neutral philosophy what are your predictions of what consensus values would become dominant in an ancap culture? I personally see it being essentially identical to a trans-humanist anarchism since technological amplifications of the self are a nearly guaranteed way to accomplish most subjective desires.,,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490897515 118951119,118976678,2017-03-30 18:13:59,Honestly fuck trump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490897639 118951119,118976732,2017-03-30 18:14:34,">>118976322 Physically remove me daddy! :P *blushes* *slowly pulls down pants just enough to reveal the base of a feminine cock*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490897674 118951119,118976757,2017-03-30 18:14:47,">>118975747 For that one, the Hoppe quote might not even be needed I think. Basically you're saying it all with your own words. If you know mention that we advocate for the ""right of discrimination"" then that should actually be it. But if you want to keep the quote, thats fine, too. AND the dot in (((Free Migration.))) belongs after the ))) ;>",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490897687 118951119,118976789,2017-03-30 18:15:06,">>118976678 explain",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490897706 118951119,118977408,2017-03-30 18:20:11,">>118976424 To be honest I wouldn't want to make a prediction on that one. You're prolly right with transhumanism in the long run ... but one the other hand so much shit could happen that could bomb society back to stone age so we'd start out with some primitivist-ancap.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490898011 118951119,118977840,2017-03-30 18:23:26,">>118976789 >>118976678 I think he's fishing for cucks. Ive seen a handful of 1posters in our threads saying things like ""fuck white people"" ""fuck trump"" and the sort. My guess is /nsg/ trying to get us to look like lefty-fags so they can screenshot it and use it against us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490898206 118951119,118978042,2017-03-30 18:24:51,">>118977840 >/nsg/ (puke)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490898291 118951119,118978522,2017-03-30 18:28:04,">>118973099 I'm also glad you have more visibility now, I was full authoritarian but you guy made me more open-minded, also it's good to see peoples who want to get rid of all commies scums.",,Sage,1484722046794.png,zgUjPINdbUPr0OMWG4yq2A==,FR,,1490898484 118951119,118978635,2017-03-30 18:28:55,">>118977840 >n(((s)))g >mfw",,Anonymous,removal3.png,QypbLdEdNf2dQ1cnsJoypQ==,DE,,1490898535 118951119,118978683,2017-03-30 18:29:16,">>118978522 oops sorry for the sage, I literally forgot to physically remove it",,Sage,,,FR,,1490898556 118951119,118979154,2017-03-30 18:33:04,">>118978042 >>118978635 kek, out of all the memes, refering to nazis as leftists and commies really rustles them. keep it up so they have to constantly prove themselves. >>118978522 Thanks for stopping by baguette man.",,Anonymous,1488084289049.jpg,DIPClpab/CrLjGN4Z4d97w==,US,,1490898784 118951119,118980140,2017-03-30 18:39:46,">>118979154 >refering to nazis as leftists and commies really rustles them And it's enjoyable af",,Anonymous,eJwNyUEOhCAMAMC_8AAqBYr6G4IEjUoJ1HjY7N935zof9fRLrWoXaWMF2I6RuG96CPdYsi7M5cqxHUMnviGKxLTfucoADMHPSM5Ya4l8WBBw8eQQnXHTZAL9D556Vn6rbrWo7w8H6iLa.S-h22w5AnUEv_q3cLFzGzBp_bUM.png,cd7RxQlQmogMg2uk/jEyKw==,DE,,1490899186 118951119,118980350,2017-03-30 18:41:15,">>118980140 They don't have any defense against it either other than insinuating you're pedophile.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490899275 118951119,118980411,2017-03-30 18:41:37,Hows this? did I fuck anything up? does it need to look cooler? any more need to be added?,,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,b3dxlMGirjGs6bqbsfeHzQ==,US,,1490899297 118951119,118980609,2017-03-30 18:42:57,>>118980411,,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,cbjBhUdTO2Xzf7+8dYsayw==,US,,1490899377 118951119,118980812,2017-03-30 18:44:24,">>118980609 Saved.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490899464 118951119,118981692,2017-03-30 18:51:16,Just a reminder you will all hang on DOTR beside the kikes and various miscreants. Secondly you using the echoes while worshiping jews is beyond laughable.,,Anonymous,kike stickman.jpg,U2UnHYr7kKmvlmKoVNaYaQ==,CA,,1490899876 118951119,118981708,2017-03-30 18:51:21,">>118980350 or >hurrr its jew ideology goy >>118980609 I think it's good. But my autism strikes, because there's the double ""No one has a right to occupy any property without the consent of the owner"". Maybe you could just erase the first one, i.e. something like: ""No one has a right to enforce immigrants onto your property. Some ""Libertarians"" claim that people have a right to what they call free migration. this is incorrect as said before; No one has a right to occupy any property without the consent of the owner ....""",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490899881 118951119,118982044,2017-03-30 18:53:50,">>118981692 I believe most kikes are evil, but that doesn't necessitate that all kikes are.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490900030 118951119,118982058,2017-03-30 18:53:55,">>118981692 I await the day of the removal. leaf.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490900035 118951119,118982167,2017-03-30 18:54:44,">>118968106 Keeps niggers population down",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490900084 118951119,118982180,2017-03-30 18:54:51,">>118981692 So instead of going out and making """"""pure white babies"""""" you're sitting on the internet and advocate massive violence. YOU are the reason >muh white räce """"""goes extinct"""""". Fucking socialist faggots all the way.",,Anonymous,1490811698136.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,DE,,1490900091 118951119,118982353,2017-03-30 18:56:18,">>118968106 Some consider an unborn infant to be violating the mother property (womb) and therefore has voided their life due to tresspassing, I personally think that really only works in the case of rape however.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490900178 118951119,118982394,2017-03-30 18:56:34,">>118981708 I think you're right.",,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1490900194 118951119,118982583,2017-03-30 18:57:54,">>118982353 Actually, if you're strict, it's applicable to any case of unwanted pregnancy for that matter",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490900274 118951119,118982617,2017-03-30 18:58:10,">>118982180 Nice Rick Wilson talking points you filthy yiddish sewer rat. >Hurr durr if you use the internet you are clearly a childless single male",,Anonymous,hey white people.png,hAG9BGBzPu8EGzhlcNvevg==,CA,,1490900290 118951119,118982865,2017-03-30 19:00:00,">>118982394 What do you guys think about the government buying our Internet search logs from our isp's? I'm honestly against it, but a lot of people defend it because some 4D chess plan Trump has",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490900400 118951119,118983006,2017-03-30 19:01:00,">>118951119 where should we libertarians move to",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490900460 118951119,118983027,2017-03-30 19:01:10,">>118982394 Yeah I think it's cool now",,Anonymous,1490743551657.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,DE,,1490900470 118951119,118983092,2017-03-30 19:01:44,">>118981149 >>118981149 >>118981149 EVERYBODY GET IN HERE NOW LEFTIST ORGANIZATION RUN BY TWO JEWS TO ASTROTURF TRUMP RESISTANCE https://www.indivisibleguide.com/ http://dailysignal.com/2017/02/10/indivisible-with-ties-to-george-soros-sows-division-against-trump-gop-lawmakers/",,Anonymous,static1.squarespace.com.jpg,vE70ObsBG13iuoxqxT6uXA==,US,,1490900504 118951119,118983252,2017-03-30 19:03:01,">>118982617 You're adorable. You're like the little retarded cousin I never had that just doesn't understand how I got his nose.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490900581 118951119,118983433,2017-03-30 19:04:34,">>118983252 >165 posts in this thread >45 from this single poster Go get some fresh air and get beheaded by a migrant.",,Anonymous,thirdreich.png,VphFSJrX+iBodlRifT9yww==,CA,,1490900674 118951119,118983568,2017-03-30 19:05:33,">>118982583 I think you're right about that actually. >>118982865 Its not like your search histories weren't already being logged by the NSA and friends already. Anyone who isn't already using a VPN or at the very least a search engine like startpage with HTTPS enabled is pretty dumb. If you want to avoid paying for a VPN, then at least use DNScrypt, since the DNS logs are actually what's being sold.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490900733 118951119,118983778,2017-03-30 19:07:09,">>118982865 That's imo one of the worst things that could've happened. I mean I don't know how far this goes as I'm not an American. But as American I'd feel utterly fucked over. I mean you experience some massive surveillance shit already anyway but now they can ""officially"" curb you for the sake of democracy. And I'm pretty sure this doesn't just stay at the gov/ISP. This shit's gon be sold to companies to improve personal marketing. It's horrible at best t b h >>118983433 I'm keeping my own threads up so that imbeciles like you get some education. I'm working from home anyway so that's not even a problem.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490900829 118951119,118983783,2017-03-30 19:07:12,with no government how will we stop people from violating the NAP towards people who cannot defend themselves? What's to stop a parent from murdering their child,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490900832 118951119,118983944,2017-03-30 19:08:26,">>118983783 Private tort law",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490900906 118951119,118984055,2017-03-30 19:09:04,"I think it should be a priority for the next to be a physical removal explanation. it needs to be perfect tho. i was thinking somthing along the lines of: >physical removal is the means to discriminate, defend, or enforce property rights. Physical removal is the proper response to a violation of the non-agression principle. I feel like I need more here. this sounds lame.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490900944 118951119,118984333,2017-03-30 19:11:09,">>118983783 >>118983944 To expand further, third party people who find that behavior sickening (which means the majority of the population) can create or contribute to tort bonds to pay for litigation.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490901069 118951119,118984446,2017-03-30 19:12:08,">>118955379 Austria is German",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490901128 118951119,118984896,2017-03-30 19:15:31,">>118984055 It's worth pointing out that phsyical removal is not violence (as in ""beating"") in first place, because it may apply to people behaving in a for the covenant undesirable manner which is not necessarily a violation of the NAP",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490901331 118951119,118985109,2017-03-30 19:17:12,">>118983778 >I'm keeping my own threads up so that imbeciles like you get some education I'd say it's you who needs the education but I can see your nose from here.",,Anonymous,non kosher reading.png,UXkZ0Rmis4iE2kicVPiQ2Q==,CA,,1490901432 118951119,118985313,2017-03-30 19:18:52,">>118985109 >essential reading >1. mein kampf dismissed.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490901532 118951119,118985460,2017-03-30 19:20:05,">>118984055 >Physical removal is the proper response to a violation of the non-agression principle. Aggression should be met with violence. You can use removal for any subjective reason. It's your property and you do with it as you please.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490901605 118951119,118985613,2017-03-30 19:21:16,">>118985109 the republic is the only good read on this list",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490901676 118951119,118985787,2017-03-30 19:22:43,">>118984896 I would have to say that any action that is not a NAP viotion is not to be responded to with force and would not be a legitimate case for removal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490901763 118951119,118986314,2017-03-30 19:26:53,">>118985787 >legitimate case for removal It's not your property. Why do you get to decide who has access to another person's property?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490902013 118951119,118986424,2017-03-30 19:27:47,Hey guys how does obtaing land or property for yourself work in right libertarianism?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490902067 118951119,118986456,2017-03-30 19:28:01,">>118951887 >illegals Illegals aint really a issue in a society without gibs >crime Libertarians still believe in taxtaion to maintain law and order, trade freedom for security, john locke and other thinkers talk about the ""social contract"" government is fine, but only stuff that everybody truly needs, like security and roads. We dont need hand outs and shit >niggers Kill them by starvation",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490902081 118951119,118986607,2017-03-30 19:29:08,">>118985787 Hm. I'd say there CAN be things. For example lets say you have a really hardcore Christian community and one member starts to tell things like ""I dont really know if God exists"" or ""is the bible really God's word ?"". That's no act of aggression but sure not in accordance to the general consent. Whereas, when you consider any act being against the general consent in the covenant as aggression, then also those cases are cases where you can apply violence.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490902148 118951119,118986735,2017-03-30 19:30:13,">>118986424 Are you talking about homesteading? Or do you just mean purchasing property?",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490902213 118951119,118986861,2017-03-30 19:31:16,">>118986314 Right, so then their actions WOULD be considered an act of agression and therefore removal. He was saying >it may apply to people behaving in a for the covenant undesirable manner which is not necessarily a violation of the NAP which i think is a contraiction in terms because on your property undesirable behaivior can qualify as agression",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490902276 118951119,118986955,2017-03-30 19:32:06,"I've been planning to start a libertarian community living in a self-sufficient village for years now. However I find it next to impossible to convince people to join me. Even those who seem interested in the idea just can't see themselves living without the state and all the bullshit it provides. It's all so tiresome... Maybe if I start something serious all by myself it might convince other people to join me down the road?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490902326 118951119,118986973,2017-03-30 19:32:13,">>118986735 homesteading",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490902333 118951119,118987597,2017-03-30 19:37:16,">>118986973 The popular idea is that by mixing unclaimed land with your labour makes it into your land. I don't really like that idea since there is nothing magical about labour and no good definition of it. I personally take the viewpoint that ownership is based on your power to defend what is your and the consensus of others. If you can make a convincing claim to private law enforcement and courts that the land you found is unclaimed and you are making use of it all of it, then that pretty much means you own it. This generally entails mixing your labour with the land anyway, so the first viewpoint is still supported by this one anyway.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1490902636 118951119,118987696,2017-03-30 19:38:01,">>118986607 ok I understand. the point you are making that just because you are justified in removing someone for saying ""god doesn't exist"" doesn't nessesarily mean to beat/kill them but to eject them from the community. I would say that removal is simply the use of force against those that coerce or use force against you. this doesn't give an idea of how much force you may use and can be used for various levels of offenses at the property owners judgement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490902681 118951119,118988059,2017-03-30 19:41:06,">>118986607 >consider any act being against the general consent in the covenant as aggression This is neo-feudalism. >>118986861 >act of agression No. You don't have a right to another person's service or property. If it's trespassing then yea I guess so. But if he's on his property you just force him out of the community through ostracizing and denial of service and access. >on your property undesirable behaivior can qualify as agression I doubt many communities would abandon proportionality from the law. If he's not damaging your property you just remove him, not shoot him. >>118987696 >doesn't nessesarily mean to beat/kill them but to eject them from the community. Yea, that. >removal is simply the use of force It's not. You get asked to leave. If you don't, you're trespassing.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490902866 118951119,118988139,2017-03-30 19:41:49,">>118951119 >>118976432 >>118976432 >>118976432",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490902909 118951119,118989341,2017-03-30 19:52:13,">>118988059 >But if he's on his property you just force him out of the community through ostracizing and denial of service and access. I was assuming the ""bad behavior"" was happening on another persons property not his own. my bad. >I doubt many communities would abandon proportionality from the law. I agree but we use ""physical removal"" as a term that does not describe the scale of action and can be used. and we refer to discrimination all the way to crushing a communist revolt in a very violent way",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490903533 118951119,118990106,2017-03-30 19:58:59,">>118989341 >bad behavior"" was happening on another persons property I guess the law would be different depending on community. If you're extreme enough I guess shooting someone over saying stupid shit might be a legal thing somewhere. But I can't imagine it being cheap or desirable. No way to tell the future. This whole NAP business isn't a centralized thing. It's just the most likely principle to be followed if you allow people to switch insurers. >we use ""physical removal"" as a term that does not describe the scale of action Memes.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490903939 118951119,118990312,2017-03-30 20:00:46,">>118989341 on second thought maybe removal would only refer to justified force against aggressors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490904046 118951119,118990614,2017-03-30 20:03:29,">>118990106 >Memes. Yeah I guess so",,Anonymous,1487576830974.png,hVmNyNmtcuQ6nYwk+oohwg==,US,,1490904209 118951119,118991729,2017-03-30 20:14:04,,,Anonymous,IMPOLRIUM.png,29v8CAiZYfjzXoKBR89mgQ==,GR,,1490904844 118951119,118993136,2017-03-30 20:27:43,"right-libertarians argue that taxation is theft because taxes are not voluntary, that they believe that there is no implied EULA for engaging in a society, that they believe that property rights are inherent and independent of an enforcing authority. They then claim that this belief should directly be used to enforce libertarian political beliefs. I suspect that if you were to point out that profits follow all of the same tenets as taxes - they're untenable to opt out of, they have nothing to do with your property rights, and it doesn't matter if they provide value in exchange (and that they provide value is debatable), and in addition, unless you're a stockholder you have no say at all ever in the incurring of profits and therefore on top of being theft profits are tyrannical, rather than democratic in nature - and you were to say ""but profits are okay, sometimes, let's just exercise a higher standard of evidence for when we tolerate the existence of profits"", that the people who believe the things in right-libertarianism would lose their shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490905663 118951119,118993177,2017-03-30 20:28:02,">>118951119 What would you tell to a minarchist in order to convert him to anarcho capitalism? Minarchism sounds more likely to happen than anarcho capitalism which is pretty utopical, but the fact that there's a state to finance still doesn't convince me. >collecting taxes violates the nap Not if they are voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490905682 118951119,118994305,2017-03-30 20:38:45,>>118985109,,Anonymous,MSc.png,VSG9EMnzZjUsd8NZnn13+Q==,GR,,1490906325 118951119,118995497,2017-03-30 20:50:00,">>118993136 >profits are tyrannical, rather than democratic in nature >mutually beneficial exchanges are tyrannical >mob rule isn't >>118993177 >What would you tell to a minarchist in order to convert him to anarcho capitalism? The military industrial complex would likely still be active with a government. In contrast to an ancap non-interventionist military that would create lots of problems for your society. Not to mention there's still the possibility of MAD. The possibility of which I think is a lot smaller under ancap. At least on a global scale. If some idiot decide to nuke something at least it won't end humanity. Besides this the quality of law should go up and you could actually keep your libertarian society unlike with a democracy. >Minarchism sounds more likely to happen If the majority in a democracy decides to go for libertarian ideas and there's no commie revolution then there's no reason that ancap wouldn't function as well. The statists can still form their local governments. I won't stop them. >Not if they are voluntary. If you want to live under a government that's fine. But I'd prefer an ancap society.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490907000 119042468,119042468,2017-03-31 06:07:53,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Fear The Snek Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1490940473 119042468,119042760,2017-03-31 06:12:19,"REPORTING IN FOR LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS... as long as it ain't degenerate hippity hoppe-ity not on my property",,Anonymous,hoppe ancapwave.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,SK,,1490940739 119042468,119042822,2017-03-31 06:13:18,"Left libertarian here. Exactly how are children mean to be held responsible for their position? How are they meant to better their conditions if they're reliant on their, sometimes uncaring, sometimes irresponsible, parents? Exactly how does right libertarianism think of this children?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490940798 119042468,119042824,2017-03-31 06:13:19,FREEDOM MOTHERFUCKER. ONLY A KEK WOULD BOW TO THE STATE.,,Anonymous,Flag.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,US,,1490940799 119042468,119043351,2017-03-31 06:21:10,">>119042822 Well if a parent is a failure, the kids are helped by others and the parent is penalised by being evicted. Since bad upbringing causes dysfunctionality, it violates the NAP. Either way, helicopter yourself.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490941270 119042468,119043360,2017-03-31 06:21:19,">>119042822 >Left libertarian first of all, I'm sorry to hear that. >How are they meant to better their conditions if they're reliant on their parents? The parents are degenerate scum for sure if they don't care for their children. I don't know how old/responsible a child we're talking here. the child is an individual that can make choices to better themselves whether that means seeking adoption, finding a job, seeking charity and so on.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490941279 119042468,119043468,2017-03-31 06:23:05,,,Anonymous,hsm agoristball war.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,SK,,1490941385 119042468,119043635,2017-03-31 06:25:13,,,Anonymous,hsm anarcho-debatism.png,Kvkp7zeCZzobTDVCkjgp8Q==,SK,,1490941513 119042468,119043774,2017-03-31 06:27:20,"Aand the formalities are over. ROTHBARD READING LIST: Articles by Murray Rothbard: >Big-Government Libertarians https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html >Race! That Murray Book https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >More on LewRockwell.com https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/murray-n-rothbard/ Books: >Man, Economy, and State with Power & Market https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf >The Ethics of Liberty https://mises.org/system/tdf/The%20Ethics%20of%20Liberty_0.pdf?file=1&type=document >What Has Government Done to Our Money? https://mises.org/system/tdf/What%20Has%20Government%20Done%20to%20Our%20Money_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >America's Great Depression https://mises.org/system/tdf/Americas%20Great%20Depression_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto https://mises.org/system/tdf/For%20a%20New%20Liberty%20The%20Libertarian%20Manifesto_3.pdf?file=1&type=document How you doing, lads? >tfw read the Anatomy of the State at 0 230 in the morning",,Anonymous,hopper join or die.png,s0DfvflAbVbQ/f9qsQw/eQ==,SK,,1490941640 119042468,119043914,2017-03-31 06:29:32,">>119043360 >>the child is an individual that can make choices to better themselves whether that means seeking adoption, finding a job, seeking charity and so on. >this is what libertarians/ancaps believes",,Anonymous,laugh.gif,laWz5gvhA/3Ym5yfbxSN7Q==,SE,,1490941772 119042468,119044012,2017-03-31 06:30:55,">>119043914 That was poorly put. If there's anyone out there, it's their duty to raise the kid.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490941855 119042468,119044102,2017-03-31 06:32:08,">>119043351 Exactly how is charity meant to happen in a free market state that promotes competition? Why would someone help someone else's kid when they've got their own and know their own kid will inevitably have to compete with the kid they just sacrificed resources for? Or are we just going to pretend right libertarianism doesn't promote a very certain mindset? You can't claim to be right libertarian and then expect a left libertarian culture from such a state. That's ludicrous. It's our thing to promote charity as a means to replace the state. Hands off. >>119043360 Prepubescent, if that helps, but by the teen years the damage is basically irreparably. ""They're degenerate so they deserve it"" isn't an answer, it's a cop out to avoid facing a very real flaw with the free market: everyone is too busy focusing on themselves and don't even care no one is caring because it simply becomes the culture. Mix some feudalism and it's elitist. Keep it purely capitalistic and it's a depressive mantra of ""I've got my own problems.. sorry not sorry."" I'm a left libertarian because I acknowledge this. The real barrier to removing the state is that average people can't be trusted to even act with enlightened self-interest and not commit crimes or aggression if they feel they can get away with it, let alone replace the core public services currently offered to those who can't afford the already existing market solutions. If you want an anarchist utopia, you have to start with improving the people themselves. This means educational emphasis, this means promoting charity as a cultural virtue, this means promoting self sufficiency. Only with better people could a true anarchy be feasible.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490941928 119042468,119044180,2017-03-31 06:33:19,">>119042468 i just learned that hoppe is married to a turkish woman and lives in turkey.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1490941999 119042468,119044414,2017-03-31 06:37:23,">>119044102 >charity is leftist Here's a (((you))). Libertarianism can only work in a conservative society, and raising a child is less costly than dealing with vagrants.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490942243 119042468,119044455,2017-03-31 06:38:00,">>119044180 SCHNITZEL'D",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490942280 119042468,119044472,2017-03-31 06:38:11,">>119043774 >How you doing, lads? doing well, my dude >>119044012 I agree, anyone who doesn't raise their child is a scumbag.",,Anonymous,efa372d1c26d2359176a07034294654d0f1d54ef8aef2ee567a6b82053a1c962.png,VIoxRrdj/QDu/Xzks6O58Q==,US,,1490942291 119042468,119044498,2017-03-31 06:38:42,>>119044180,,Anonymous,1490024174368.jpg,iMELARaPoGIrYTp3aX5wLg==,US,,1490942322 119042468,119044598,2017-03-31 06:40:23,">>119044414 But how do you promote excellence without the alternative to serve as a warning? You are not completely right wing.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490942423 119042468,119044699,2017-03-31 06:41:45,">>119042468 Thumbs down For fuck sakes Canada Another P.C. Tim Hortons commercial embracing immigrants. This place is Cucked to the max. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0pjW2ltKwI",,Anonymous,image.jpg,SoOT1N2XVT8wgQxI3TNGfg==,CA,,1490942505 119042468,119044750,2017-03-31 06:42:44,">>119043635 >>119043468 >>119043774 OP here. Thanks bro, my connection died right after I posted the thread ... after like 10 attempts. And then the captcha wouldn't fucking load for ages ...",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490942564 119042468,119044874,2017-03-31 06:44:36,">>119042468 Are you part of the ANTICOM discord?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490942676 119042468,119044878,2017-03-31 06:44:42,">>119044699 gross. I had to stop watching when the dindu touched the photos on the fridge.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490942682 119042468,119044893,2017-03-31 06:44:55,">>119044102 So are you telling me that people would only be charitable if held at gunpoint. I don't know whether your post tells more about society or more about you.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490942695 119042468,119045159,2017-03-31 06:48:55,">>119042822 I will add a different perspective, again, it's not because we're not an unified front, it's because coming up with free market solutions to every problem is a really complex process. My hypothesis is that private communities will have a certain set of rules enforced via contract, these rules might perfectly include that adults are responsible for their offspring, just as your landlord will hold you responsible if your kid breaks the window. Anarcho Capitalism is a market of ideas, every community represents an idea and the market will end up optimizing the process and those communities with better values will end up thriving while the communities with worse values will lose market value and be bought off. So, I believe most prosperous communities will be those that don't allow degenerates such as the ones you describe, which will force parents, in their own self-interest, to care for their children if they don't want to live like gypsies in the outlaw parts of the country, totally isolated from civilization.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490942935 119042468,119045508,2017-03-31 06:54:16,">>119043914 Missed your post. I'm a libertarian, I believe education should be localised, powered by technology and similar to homeschooling except with actual experts, perhaps with some family element (taught by your uncles and aunts), although that isn't purely left wing so I can't larp with that. To solve the poverty problem, people simply don't collect the communal education fund from poorer families. Some homeschooling communities already do this, it just looks really bad when one kid disappears from the group and it happens to be the poor kid. No state involved, nor any private schools. Oh God are state schools shit. >>119044893 More so cultural engineering, I'd make it so normal to not care about money and fluidly patronize artists or donate to causes or, better yet, give to actual poor people in your life that a welfare state just seems weird. Why would anyone need to be forced to help those you love that aren't doing so well? A good first step would be to raise the tax incentives for charity, next would be to fund community initiatives (yeah yeah mo cash fo dem programs). Instead, I know first hand that when you're in a pit even our only moderately capitalist society will try to drill it into you that it's all your fault and abuse your condition to create a stancepoint of elitism. The only exception here is for ""minorities,"" then it's basically forcing other people to help you. This is left wing authoritarianism. >>119045159 This fails immediately when you realise how imperfect humans are, they habitually deny responsibility and when their kid breaks a window, somehow it's simultaneously not the kid's fault for being too young but also not the parent's responsibility because they didn't break the window. They'll rapidly degenerate their own communities purely out of apathy. This is even promoted in this day and age: don't you dare criticise the state of ethnic communities.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490943256 119042468,119045515,2017-03-31 06:54:23,">>119044874 No. >>119044102 First part: How is charity done today ? Are people forced to do it ? What do people gain from charity ? Are they paid for it ? We aren't promoting any particular mindset that enforces charity in any way. It's obvious you're crypto-commie. Not even kidding. >people are so selfish they wouldn't ever do charitable things >looks western society >REEEEEEEEEEEE Second part: That's dumb, too. The premise is very easily understandable. The free, unregulated market will spark enough competition - and also cooperation - so that society will prevent degenerate behavior - mostly - from within. If there's a need for really highly skilled plumbers, then the training of plumbers will be emphazised. If there's a need for highly skilled engineers or programmers, then this branch of education will be emphazised on. What you really are is not a libertarian. You're a crypto-commie as I said before. You don't believe people naturally want to prosper and there keep their kids and society clean and well if they have no welfare net to fall back on, so you want to enforce things upon the people. As >>119044893 implied. Your post tells way more about you than society or our theory.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490943263 119042468,119045793,2017-03-31 06:59:01,">>119045515 Charity is strictly a virtue signalling exercise, it's completely impersonal and you're more likely to give to some niglet in Africa than invite your own brother round for dinner. How dare you insult my position and personality instead of my argument and pretend you're proving shit. People are self centered, that's a fact. Get the fuck over it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490943541 119042468,119045873,2017-03-31 07:00:23,">>119045508 >Instead, I know first hand that when you're in a pit even our only moderately capitalist society will try to drill it into you that it's all your fault and abuse your condition to create a stancepoint of elitism What we have today is an unfree society with state monopolies on currency and violence and economic monopolies enforced by the state through regulation, corruption and violence. This is not even remotely comparable to what an ancap society would look like. It's when you say ""The sky is blue but my steak tastes really good"".",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490943623 119042468,119045928,2017-03-31 07:01:22,">Its ok to destroy my people, culture, and natural environment with mcdonalds, feminism, mass immigration, hd pornography, strip mining, outsourcing, factory farms, and trannies... at least I didn't violate the NAP! Lolbergs will defend this",,Anonymous,6ad3fb738e4aa1fe4153df6aab3443a6c8782578c8f2978c6235357dcf3c6a69.jpg,CZnTzFtCmi8sWrgi/SA50Q==,CA,,1490943682 119042468,119046048,2017-03-31 07:03:12,">>119045508 >This fails immediately when you realise how imperfect humans are, they habitually deny responsibility and when their kid breaks a window, somehow it's simultaneously not the kid's fault for being too young but also not the parent's responsibility because they didn't break the window. >They'll rapidly degenerate their own communities purely out of apathy. This is even promoted in this day and age: don't you dare criticise the state of ethnic communities. This post ignores market and competence optimization to a point where I wonder if it's worthy to keep trying to explain my views to you, but I'll give it another go. It's in the landlord's interest to maintain the value of their property, or he will be forced to sell, do we agree so far? Therefore it's not so far-fetched to conclude that most communities would have clear contracts against this behavior and clear responsibilities for the tenants. Humans might be imperfect, but market leads to perfection through provisions for those human imperfections. When I started working as a freelancer my contracts were total shit and didn't cover half of the possibilities where clients could fuck me up, as I started gaining experience, I improved my contracts to the point of having 0 conflicts whatsoever in the last 6 years. I, literally, included a provision for every human imperfection, and thanks to that my business became prosperous.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490943792 119042468,119046241,2017-03-31 07:06:17,">>119045793 I'm not insulting anything nor do I care for your >feels breh. I pointed out that your view is highly influenced by red values. And I precisely answered your questions. And for charity. You're indeed a self-centered faggot par excellence. What about all the people helping out refugees, because they feel for them ? What about all the people going out, giving homeless people food and blankets ? Or what about those who go through hospitals and try to make the time a bit better for fatally diseased people ? You can't handle the fact that people are generous by nature, because your welfare checks aren't as big as you'd like them to be. That's obvious.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490943977 119042468,119046515,2017-03-31 07:10:41,">>119045928 That's complete bullshit. I suggest you read ""Anatomy of the State"" by Rothbard and go ahead with ""Democracy - The God that Failed"". Then you come back and discuss.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490944241 119042468,119046896,2017-03-31 07:17:07,">>119046048 So you're going to keep pretending this shambalah of yours is even remotely possible without a demographic of consistently high IQ? There is no optimisation or free market amongst the idiots, there's just apathy and one deal for me mate, another for you. Have you ever bought weed? It's the perfect example of how unregulated markets prove fairly decently to not necessarily be free markets. They don't care about improvement and you're either being wilfully ignorant that low authority states have already existed or haven't come to that realisation. It's not hard to simply not enforce laws or only do so in one place. Edo Japan was like this, Tsarist Russia before Catherine the great was like this, even the late Roman empire was like this. Look at all these minarchical utopias! >>119046241 Your word salad about my emotional state is still not convincing nor your aspersions about my current state of affairs. I wasn't allowed to collect welfare checks for very long because these things are regulated by people who think people like me don't deserve welfare checks. Welfare in my country is literally not designed to help someone both unemployed and with a STEM degree. Again, no one cared about me during this period and I was told almost constantly that it was entirely my fault. My high GPA didn't matter, the small businesses I contracted for (but who didn't pay) didn't matter. I didn't even receive sympathy. This is the culture of even moderate capitalism; sit in your room and rot because even though affirmative action is an inarguable fact we'd still rather see you suffer because it makes us feel good to know someone like you can suffer. This is not the mentality that would make an anarchical society pleasurable. This is the mentality of a person who would rob me blind and claim it's my fault for letting it happen. Your literally sociopathic shit about feels? You're just like this too.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490944627 119042468,119047142,2017-03-31 07:21:07,">>119045793 >People are self centered, that's a fact. Get the fuck over it. That's an just opinion and you know it. But assuming it wasn't, I'll give you a selfish reason why would anyone help the poor: people don't want to see poor people around them. It makes them feel bad. So in a libertarian society charities would still exist, though probably in a more local basis to solve homelessness of those immediately nearby. And then there's the question of why are there so many homeless people in the first place: The main reason of homelessness is joblessness, which in itself is caused by governmental regulations relatable to protectionism. When a regulation is made to preserve inefficient industries or to raise the barriers of entry to some economic sector there results a net loss of jobs and since the number of businesses that operate in such industry is lower than would otherwise have been and therefore less jobs exist and they don't have to compete for employees as much as they would, making wages lower than they would have otherwise been. Employees and wage people fighting against freedom of enterprise are just shooting themselves in the foot. And there's also the thing that governments very often artificially restrict the supply of land where housing would be built, or impose horrendous taxation on the land, work, and materials that are necessary for the housing to be there. It is not an exaggeration to say that often more than 50% of the cost of housing, be it rent or purchasing price, is government-caused. Not to mention that without the burden of taxation the average person's income would pretty much double.",,Anonymous,anarchy.jpg,5j4s4YcR68gX+KvZb9Xang==,ES,,1490944867 119042468,119047494,2017-03-31 07:26:31,">>119046896 >There is no optimisation or free market amongst the idiots I don't see how that applies to the example we were talking about. Successful business owners are certainly not idiots. Market will make idiots fail and smart people succeed, like it always does save when there's government intervention. >Have you ever bought weed? Can't say that I have, but I understand the process. > It's the perfect example of how unregulated markets prove fairly decently to not necessarily be free markets I don't understand what you mean. >They don't care about improvement and you're either being wilfully ignorant that low authority states have already existed or haven't come to that realisation. It's not hard to simply not enforce laws or only do so in one place. Edo Japan was like this, Tsarist Russia before Catherine the great was like this, even the late Roman empire was like this. Look at all these minarchical utopias! Again, how is this relevant to the example we were talking about. I don't want to get into how Tsarist Russia was as I don't have the expertise nor the time to investigate how this applies to my hypothesis, so mind being a bit more concrete on your criticism? Instead of just telling me to ""look at history""?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490945191 119042468,119047531,2017-03-31 07:26:58,">>119046896 I already explained before that our society is not capitalism, not even mild. And that's the last thing I'm going to tell you. It's not like you just wouldn't listen, you're straight up ignoring what you read, obviously based on your political bias and prejudice. And you're making arguments based on ""personal experience"" which are bound to produce fallacies anyway. >my parents hit me in my childhood so all parents do it just as example. Same goes with what you've written. It's almost like you're the text book example of lefty or SJW for that matter. I suggest you read some of our resources. See >>119046515 or >>119043468 >>119043635 >>119043774 Then, when you still think the same way, we can have a talk with real arguments instead of >feels",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490945218 119042468,119047899,2017-03-31 07:32:48,>>119045928,,Anonymous,DontBait.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1490945568 119042468,119048285,2017-03-31 07:38:50,">>119047142 >people don't want to see poor people around them. It makes them feel bad Bullshit. People love being reminded that there's someone doing worse than them, at least sociopathic people do. >The main reason of homelessness is joblessness, which in itself is caused by governmental regulations relatable to protectionism In my case, my joblessness was caused by the average ideology of people hired to work as human resources and recruitment. Do you actually believe Marxism in universities was deliberately state sponsored rather than a runaway effect of Soviet agitation? >since the number of businesses that operate in such industry is lower than would otherwise have been and therefore less jobs exist and they don't have to compete for employees as much as they would, making wages lower than they would have otherwise been. I actually agree to this. The tricky is promoting small business without corporations literally sitting in board rooms strategizing anti-disruption ideas. In reality I'm a more moderate libertarian, even Stefan Molyneux is clearly not maxing out the right wing. I just larp the left wing in my free time. >It is not an exaggeration to say that often more than 50% of the cost of housing, be it rent or purchasing price, is government-caused. This is very true in Australia, land value is deliberately bubbling >Not to mention that without the burden of taxation the average person's income would pretty much double So long as a state is necessary, so long as humans aren't ideal, is as long as we still need taxation. >>119047531 Brother. You were the one who began to make it personal, so I gave you some personal. I witnessed first hand that no one cared when I was down, I don't actually blame them, but I won't believe contemporary humans can care without some reward. Enlightened self-interest completely escapes them, especially if they're under 120iq. That's the average man I don't trust. Please keep pretending you didn't fire the first shot.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490945930 119042468,119048330,2017-03-31 07:39:32,,,Anonymous,1490713184063.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,DE,,1490945972 119042468,119048915,2017-03-31 07:48:42,">>119048285 See, I'm such a kind person, I'll break my own creed. Just food for thought. Imagine if I'm teacher. I tell my students to fuck off, because they're dumb as fuck shitheads not worthy of my time. While I'm saying that and other things, I'm proving the central limit theorem. Does that render the proof wrong ? No it doesn't, because only in leftist-think it's possible that being rude renders whole arguments and argument structures - no matter how reasonable and true they are - wrong and irrelevant. While in addition, ""personal experience"" is totally reliable, no matter how much of a cunt people are. And personal experience is no measure for anything. It's a special case where your particular hypothesis suddenly applied. But the truth is, you hypothesis was made from this experience so infact it IS rendered worthless. proof: >[...] How dare you insult my position and personality [...] post >>119045793 to >Please keep pretending you didn't fire the first shot. post >>119048285 Now get your ass off the internet and read Anatomy or Democracy. It'll be good for you.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490946522 119042468,119049084,2017-03-31 07:52:00,">>119047494 About the weed, weed dealers will basically charge everyone a different price, give everyone a different weight and reserve the better stuff for better clients. They get especially inequitable for people who seem middle class and sell it at the same price they bought it for their friends. This is quite the opposite of a free or fair market. About Tsarist Russia, the Tsar for most of history was a holy Roman empire puppet who only enforced laws between Moscow and westward. The closer you got to the Urals, the less laws were enforced and it was largely capitalist due to the influence of the silk road. There were whole armies of slaves mining shit and being treated horribly. Japan is a better example, their emperor at times was nothing more than an artistic leader. The laws his regime imposed were only enforced in one city and elsewhere the Japanese (high IQ people but still not high enough) would enforce peace by hiring a samurai. No. Rich people hired a samurai. Poor people were exploited. On one hand though, this is essentially the rights enforcement agency thing that David Friedman supposedly invented: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o What I want you to realise is that plenty of times throughout history free markets have replaced authority, ironically in many of these cases the results weren't actually that bad. The red pill here is that all you need for a minarchy is.. don't enforce laws? Legal systems without execution becomes simply social constructs, but the result can be anything from Marx's impossible communist society to Somalia. It all depends on the people. It only depends on the people. >>119048915 Yes, the post I replied to there was essentially where you essentially used memes to insult me like a small autistic child. You don't actually believe you have the high ground here, do you?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490946720 119042468,119049391,2017-03-31 07:56:29,">>119049084 Still straight up ignoring what you're reading. I'm not the one pretendig to be on moral high ground.",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1490946989 119042468,119049915,2017-03-31 08:04:59,"friendly reminder that the idea of man as a mere homo economicus, with a blank slate, free to do as he pleases, without any worth or higher ideal outside of economic transactions, is the root of today's degeneracy. libertarianism is nothing but license, the expressive right to degeneration, to miscegenation, to corruption, to open borders, to diversity,... >inb4 muh private borders even a child knows that is the most ridiculous defense ever. everyone has the right to immigrate, to property, has the right to buy and sell, has the right to marry and thus immigration will not in any way be stopped by ancapism. not to mention that there are already large minorities who can easily provide and help establish more new immigrants, should economy not be a role anymore for attracting new immigrants. not to mention that corporations would gladly import cheap foreign workers so ancapism means merely more diversity, more immigration, more multiculturalism, multiracialism, fractioning of countries and cultures,.... >inb4 socialist! you are no beter than stalin! muh freedom get the fuck outta here with your strawman.",,Anonymous,timmoen.jpg,IGsdjvbCD2SWGD3d/n+jfg==,BE,,1490947499 119042468,119049925,2017-03-31 08:05:04,"Does anybody have the flag with the sneks bound to a fasces saying ""fuck off""? Would be really greatful if someone would help",,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,DE,,1490947504 119042468,119049934,2017-03-31 08:05:14,">>119049391 No, I'm doing it deliberately. You're not worth my time. You literally think this is somewhere else and that you can get away with opening with insults and ad hominems. Do you think you're someone important here? Let me enlighten you, you aren't important anywhere and if anything has convinced you otherwise, it's an illusion. You stand only on your arguments, your actions and absolutely nothing else. What you've proven tonight is that you believe you too can gain superiority by consistently attacking. I have deliberately ignored your points because of your shit, not despite their value, but due to their lack thereof. Kill thyself, fiend. You began here: >>119045515 >REEEEEEEEE Shit tier meme. The only group to actually pay me as a contractor was a charity for autistic children. How telling. There's a reason I call people sociopathic instead of autistic, they're better people than the people who abuse their condition for a meme. But it's just joke, bro, amirite? Just memes...",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490947514 119042468,119050118,2017-03-31 08:07:55,"I prefer it when discussion is civil rather than when it is so heated. There is a limito to the number of walls of text one can read before getting frustrated. Let's chill out, shall we? Don't make me go get these McNukes.",,Anonymous,nuke.png,z4xfUokDWBUAtYIWnzcE6A==,ES,,1490947675 119042468,119050147,2017-03-31 08:08:26,">>119044180 HOPPE'D But yes, his wife actually owns the Karia Princess hotel in Bodrum, that's where they do the PFS gatherings. She met him as a Mises student.",,Anonymous,P5260036-L.jpg,PDkoX4WoFLVVxTRBG3DdLQ==,PT,,1490947706 119042468,119050275,2017-03-31 08:10:17,"I still don't know how Anarchocapitalists are able to simply dismiss the idea that establishing that sort of system won't INSTANTLY result in lootings, killings, and a general revolt as positions are reestablished under a new set of the natural law of liberty. All I see in Anarchocapitalism is a set of minuscule communes or individual people who have to be ever watchful and providing their own defense against aggression, effectively resulting to sleeping with one eye open for the rest of your life.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490947817 119042468,119050307,2017-03-31 08:10:48,">>119049925 This ? >>119049934 >my feels breh, my feels >kys mate I'm better and you're shit You don't see the fallacy you're making, do you ? Anyway You indeed are just a random SJW pretending to be a libertarian. God bless you, may you one day step off your high horse and perceive arguments as what they are and not as what you think they are.",,Anonymous,1490722715750.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,DE,,1490947848 119042468,119050434,2017-03-31 08:12:47,">>119042822 Just because you're getting rid of the state doesn't mean you're getting rid of Nature's instincts (caring for offspring). Getting rid of the state would help existing and future families by: 1) eliminating taxation 2) eliminating child labor laws (which penalize couples with children) 3) eliminating state-funded public education (which removes the parents as the authority figures and the role-models; and since public education is usually a Marxist propaganda program). And we should also add the fact that marriage and family life would no longer be strangled by social workers and the state meddling in family life. As to irresponsible parents who don't want their children: child free markets.",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1490947967 119042468,119050661,2017-03-31 08:16:11,">>119049084 First of all, fair market is a term you brought up to the conversation. I don't believe a market has to be fair. Also, at least you should acknowledge that the weed market is, due to state regulation, in the shadows and therefore, with limited competence and practice exposure, is bound to have shady dealers who would not last a day in the market if the circumstances were of open, true and legal transactions between two or more parties. Literally, what you describe are practices that would be heavily punished in the free market and are not punished because the total lack of transparency and it being an ostracized practice. About Tsarist Russia, I still fail to see how it applies to my hypothesis of private communities. Your theory keeps failing to explain how landlords will somehow let their properties lose value and manage to succeed to maintain them. Free markets have not replaced authority in any of those situations and you just cannot project one of the multiple factors of free market into a society that had tremendous issues aside from security. And yes, it does depend on the people, but not exclusively on them, laws and environment forge people.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490948171 119042468,119050908,2017-03-31 08:19:47,">>119050434 >1) eliminating taxation Sure, along with a whole plethora of state protections, but fair enough for the sake of argument. >2) eliminating child labor laws (which penalize couples with children) So essentially forcing kids into working rather than learning. How is this freedom again? >3) eliminating state-funded public education (which removes the parents as the authority figures and the role-models; and since public education is usually a Marxist propaganda program). So relying on incompetent parents who hardly are able to teach their kids basic manners today to give them a whole education? You'll end up with a potential army of uneducated filth. >As to irresponsible parents who don't want their children: child free markets. So selling people. Again, all of this completely throws out the window every notion of human beings as anything other than economic creatures.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490948387 119042468,119050932,2017-03-31 08:20:03,">>119050275 It would just be the same as today but instead of paying forceful tax to a state they would be paying voluntary subscription to one protection agency among lots of other competing ones. If you wanted, that is. Private security isn't rocket science. As a matter of fact it currently is a booming industry. Not because the state has receded, but because private enterprise has stepped in due to the failure of the state to provide security. And contrarily to today, policing would be more effective since people would pay not for some generalized ""protection"" but rather for specific protection of their property. The quality of the service would be way higher and the cost would surely be more related to the actual cost of the service, contrarily to what the state charges for it.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490948403 119042468,119051026,2017-03-31 08:21:21,">>119050275 >providing their own defense There's gonna be private security. Why can you relax around state funded police when they have a monopoly and they can get away with shit they'd never get away with in a free market but private security terrifies you?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490948481 119042468,119051080,2017-03-31 08:22:21,">>119050307 That one, thanks alot brudi",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490948541 119042468,119051121,2017-03-31 08:22:51,">>119050932 >Mercenaries, mercenaries, I'm being robbed! >okay, pls show me your receipts that show you're paying anti-thief protection History has proven time and time again that armies moved only by money are the worst you could aspire to have.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490948571 119042468,119051196,2017-03-31 08:24:04,">>119051026 Because in a ""free market"" I can never truly trust that said private protection isn't going to blackmail me, or move on to a better offer that works against my own wellbeing and safety.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490948644 119042468,119051320,2017-03-31 08:25:50,">>119051121 >state brainwashing is the only option >private protection isn't going to blackmail me The monopoly blackmails you because people believe there should be a democratic monopoly. If the people stop giving them power then they lose it.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490948750 119042468,119051448,2017-03-31 08:27:40,">>119050307 There is no argument here. I literally couldn't give a fuck what you think, I'm just astounded by your complete lack of self awareness. You still think you're proving something? >God bless you, may you one day step off your high horse and perceive arguments as what they are and not as what you think they are. This is literally rewording what I've said to you this entire thread. You have proven nothing. You have gained nothing. >>119050434 That instinct only works if you watch them grow, it's completely ineffective for a stranger's child. It's also completely exploitable, want to know what causes unrealistic white women to hold signs in German railway stations inviting immigrants? It's related to that mothering instinct. Relying on it isn't going to replace the state, relying on it is going to create more will for a state. Also, have you read this thrilling argument: >>119043914 The whole left libertarian thing devolves to a think of the children argument, I haven't hidden this. You simply can't expect children to look after themselves, can't expect only great people to have children, can't expect other people to look after other people's children. All three are ridiculous. >>119050908 Me thinks he's somewhat trolling >child labour That's right kids, don't learn high technology skills, work in a coal mine instead and inhale that tasty coal dust (with sprinkles of carcinogenic uranium)! Make this whole life thing short and sweet, you could lose your virginity at 8 years old with your first paycheck to a Victorian era prostitute. Wait another pay check and you can even get one the same age as you without those odd spots on her vagina. >>119050661 So what is a free market? Are you actually arguing the free market is ""anything goes""? This might actually work in the contemporary age where there's plenty of alternatives, but if the only water salesman in a desert is price gouging, uh.. yeah, cool society bro.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1490948860 119042468,119051485,2017-03-31 08:28:12,">>119050908 >So essentially forcing kids into working rather than learning. How is this freedom again? How would anyone be ""forcing"" anyone to do something? It is the middle class and the upper class who are subsidizing the children of the lower class to go to school. We shouldn't be subsidizing anything, let alone families whose children could very well work in the family business or in a trade, or something other that doesn't require X years of compulsory education. >So relying on incompetent parents who hardly are able to teach their kids basic manners today to give them a whole education? You'll end up with a potential army of uneducated filth. Citation needed for ""incompetent parents."" >So selling people. Again, all of this completely throws out the window every notion of human beings as anything other than economic creatures. You're not selling the child's property rights themselves, you're selling the property rights to the trusteeship over the child. The child would still be an independent human with rights of its own. The parents who gave it up for adoption would not be selling the child, but the property ""title"" to the guardianship.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490948892 119042468,119051544,2017-03-31 08:28:58,">>119051121 Your prejudices come exclusively for YOUR lack of ability to imagine free market solutions to the problems you propose, not because they wouldn't exist. This one is easy as fuck, you don't get mercenaries on a need->buy basis, you get them on a subscription model, either by living in a gated community with private security or by hiring an agency to patrol a specific area along with your neighbors. You would not like to live in places where crimes are occurring right? So would you agree, then, that people who provide communities will, in their own interest, try to keep it that way? Even if you're not paying, I don't want a corpse or a thief in my yard. Also you would like for people to visit you right? Would people visit you if their life was at risk by doing so? So why the fuck will you buy property there where your life and property are not secured?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490948938 119042468,119051698,2017-03-31 08:30:58,">>119051448 Over-generalizing. You're also missing the point of ""not on my property"". A few cucked German women holding signs for immigration would not be a problem in Ansnekistan, since those women would have to entirely subsidize the immigrant's stay. And if anti-migrant sentiment is high, the rest of the population could very well expel the women for bringing the property values down.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490949058 119042468,119051775,2017-03-31 08:32:01,">>119051485 >You're not selling the child's property rights themselves, you're selling the property rights to the trusteeship over the child. The child would still be an independent human with rights of its own. The parents who gave it up for adoption would not be selling the child, but the property ""title"" to the guardianship. How can you defend the independence of said child in the same statement in which his ""legal"" guardianship has been traded potentially without his consent? Why would anyone in said free market want to buy ""guardianship"" over a child if not for the sake of degeneracy, or to put them to work and exploit them? Maybe if you're an Angelina Jolie type who collects children like they're pogs you'll see cases of this being done well, but that's not your average person.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490949121 119042468,119051779,2017-03-31 08:32:10,">>119051121 Nice meme. Do you know what is the opposite of a mercenary? A conscript. A mercenary fights for money. A conscript fights because if he doesn't he'll go to jail. The idea that people fights for patriotism or whatever other shit is levels high of bizarre. Only people that have never been in a war can hold such a bizarre idea. War is not like in the movies. >>119051196 In a monopolistic security market (aka statism) the state: >takes +50% of your income. >can enslave you to force you to fight (conscription) >can force you to partake in mass murder (war) or become a victim of it >can confiscate your property >can force you to pay them money for living in your own house (estate tax) Sounds like a very shitty alternative, mate.",,Anonymous,statism.jpg,nW43xdyGlRVliCvD3n+yuA==,ES,,1490949130 119042468,119051823,2017-03-31 08:32:58,">>119051448 >So what is a free market? Are you actually arguing the free market is ""anything goes""? This might actually work in the contemporary age where there's plenty of alternatives, but if the only water salesman in a desert is price gouging, uh.. yeah, cool society bro. A free market is that where two or more parties mutually benefit from a transaction without harming others body or property. One where acquisition is done by voluntary transaction, transformation or first-appropriation of goods. That is the most basic way to avoid conflicts in a world with scarcity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn5QNlDryOk",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490949178 119042468,119052036,2017-03-31 08:35:31,">>119051544 And still that model of private security in general just grows into localized monopolies, because the only force of legitimacy that makes one force the one to hire is their ability to enforce peace, so the largest organizations are going to be the ones that control security by default, potentially in many cases by eliminating their competitors.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490949331 119042468,119052394,2017-03-31 08:40:20,">>119052036 >because the only force of legitimacy that makes one force the one to hire is their ability to enforce peace Peace is easily enforced by a minimum set of rules, we call it the NAP but others might surface and be just as effective. It's up to the individuals to decide how many rights they're willing to sacrifice in order to acquire such security. If you're claiming that most people will go to the band of thugs instead of going there where laws are clear and fair, would be like trying to claim most people want to live in Iraq and not in Denmark.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490949620 119042468,119052557,2017-03-31 08:42:47,">>119052036 >localized monopolies >in a service economy No. All one person has to do is make a contract with another insurer. >largest organizations More bureaucratic therefore inherently more expensive. >eliminating their competitors War costs money. Why would customers fund it when they can just contract a cheaper insurer that's not a cunt? >inb4 they tax them They are heavily armed anarchists that would receive help from competing insurers. It's not gonna happen as long as these people are actually willing to be free.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490949767 119042468,119052640,2017-03-31 08:44:05,">>119042468 who builds the roads",,Anonymous,1489986153664.jpg,eRJvmmQKqYQhpJd5Ng9CcQ==,AU,,1490949845 119042468,119052705,2017-03-31 08:44:56,">>119042468 You are worse than any other group. I'd genuinely rather drink with an anarcho-syndicalist, AIDS-ridden squatter than the LARPing hypocrisy that is your average Libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490949896 119042468,119052724,2017-03-31 08:45:14,">>119051775 >Why would anyone in said free market want to buy ""guardianship"" over a child if not for the sake of degeneracy, or to put them to work and exploit them? Stop projecting.",,Anonymous,1462898666582.jpg,vdZQGbD6LImjgMDclBIqeA==,PT,,1490949914 119042468,119052827,2017-03-31 08:46:39,">>119052640 >An Australian complaining about roads. Has Mad Max not taught you anything?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490949999 119042468,119054408,2017-03-31 09:07:05,">>119052724 Not an argument in a world where children are working in diamond mines and sweatshops.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490951225 119042468,119054741,2017-03-31 09:11:50,">>119051080 yw",,Anonymous,1490743551657.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,DE,,1490951510 119042468,119054773,2017-03-31 09:12:26,">>119054408 In impoverished societies only. Nature is what forces people to work, the harsher the nature is, the biggest amount of work you will have to do to cover your basic needs. Should children work? My grandfather worked when he was 12, I bet yours did too, can we, from the comfort of our highly capitalized positions, tell people who are poor that they cannot go through the process of wealth creation our families went through? What I'm sure of is that as a society becomes more and more capitalized the need for children to work is more and more reduced, why not, then, work towards those methods that allow societies to become capitalized quickly, such as, I don't know...capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490951546 119042468,119054928,2017-03-31 09:14:32,What about national anarchists/autonomous nationalists? Why don't we get any love?,,Anonymous,N-A_Flag.png,KhSBiirkt3RKcWHeDkTNjg==,US,,1490951672 119042468,119054965,2017-03-31 09:15:05,">>119054408 You come from the position that parents are naturally exploitative and would rather have their kids work in a mine or with heavy loads and have health problems later on than have them go to school and get an education. I come from the opposite side.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490951705 119042468,119055002,2017-03-31 09:15:29,">>119054928 You guys are alright in my book. Nice logo too.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1490951729 119042468,119055131,2017-03-31 09:17:01,">>119044472 That's great to hear. Heil Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490951821 119042468,119055223,2017-03-31 09:18:15,">>119044598 You promote excellence because anything else is laughed at in a covenant which promotes excellence.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490951895 119042468,119055273,2017-03-31 09:19:00,">>119044874 Link?",,Anonymous,hoppe democrats quote.jpg,IKGvoP25fTeU/Ur0k6EZjw==,SK,,1490951940 119042468,119055314,2017-03-31 09:19:39,">>119044750 No problem, mate. You still owe me a beer, though. Have a bump.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490951979 119042468,119055561,2017-03-31 09:22:57,">>119045928 >destroy my people and culture That's what the state does. If there wasn't a monopoly on force enforcing these destructive policies, they wouldn't even exist.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490952177 119042468,119055617,2017-03-31 09:23:34,">>119054928 I don't know much about NA but sounds pretty based. Could you give me a quick rundown?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490952214 119042468,119055901,2017-03-31 09:27:06,">>119049915 Ultimately, men are machines turning factors into products. What more they decide to do with their life depends on them and them alone. Also, read up on any Hoppe quote - I don't want people too different from me anywhere near me.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490952426 119042468,119055988,2017-03-31 09:28:13,">>119050118 I hate walls of text, too. Libertarians agreeing on something is truly a rare sight.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490952493 119042468,119056065,2017-03-31 09:29:11,">>119050275 >NAP violations It's almost like half of AnCap literature is devoted to that subject.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490952551 119042468,119056283,2017-03-31 09:31:38,">>119051121 >mercenaries I like militias more. They actually have a sense of duty on top of wanting to make money.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490952698 119042468,119056338,2017-03-31 09:32:22,">>119051196 Yet you trust the state, whose record is as bad if not worse.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490952742 119042468,119056482,2017-03-31 09:34:21,">>119052705 >capital L Removed.",,Anonymous,hoppe state.jpg,dmi4qDdBSomYbolpW2dZ/w==,SK,,1490952861 119042468,119056609,2017-03-31 09:36:02,">>119054928 Not a bad first impression. Are you basically nationalist AnCaps?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490952962 119042468,119056629,2017-03-31 09:36:17,">>119055617 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-anarchism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonome_Nationalisten Honestly, it's so anti-everything it can be hard to pin down exactly what we're fighting for precisely, but I believe the basic operating principle is defense of the organic (ethno-) nation by attacks on the cultural technologies which imperil it (Marxism, Judeo-capitalism, etc.) Myself, I'm a market enthusiast and I don't exactly oppose the state as a concept, so I have some difficulties getting along with other NAs, but first things first: smash the cultural left. We can negotiate among ourselves afterward.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490952977 119042468,119057643,2017-03-31 09:49:23,>>119042468,,Anonymous,DontFuckWithMeSnek.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1490953763 119042468,119057998,2017-03-31 09:54:21,">>119042822 >left libertarian lol Your entire political position is basically just wanting to do whatever you want while being taken care of by others You are a child Your question is a relevant modern question. What is the answer to that question today that is made invalid by being right-libertarian? Millions of kids right now are reliant upon uncaring irresponsible parents, most of them never receive any state aid. Most of them will turn out okay in life. I am an example of this myself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490954061 119042468,119058126,2017-03-31 09:55:57,">>119052640 weak bait faggot here have a (you)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490954157 119042468,119058310,2017-03-31 09:58:42,">>119043914 This is exactly how the world has worked for a very long time The state programs we have for helping kids help very few of the ones who need it and often harm children as well. It is easily seen that kids who grow up in a conflict-heavy environment mature much faster - you get the 12 year old little girl raising all her siblings while deadbeat-parents do drugs and waste food stamps on alcohol. Five year olds in Japan in totally happy families ride public transport to school, make breakfast for their parents, etc. I think youre honestly severely underestimate kids' ability to adapt and grow within a fucked up home, and take care of themselves if necessary. You're severely underestimating how much kids can do if you just let them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490954322 119042468,119058596,2017-03-31 10:02:10,">>119044598 Culture and belief in the good of mankind There have been many great and charitable souls throughout history, those people wont cease to exist in a libertarian environment The lack of state influence will contribute to the rise of voluntary charity - I know your jaded soul might not believe this but most of us inherently want to do good in the world",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490954530 119042468,119058699,2017-03-31 10:03:33,">>119045793 >projection",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490954613 119042468,119058975,2017-03-31 10:07:10,">>119045928 >Statist world >Elected leaders backstab the people, bring in thousands of 'refugee' shitskins >No one can do anything to them and they are released despite committing severe crimes since theyre impossible to hold and charge >Eventual societal collapse >Lolberg world >Somehow, someway, someone brought in fugees >Being shitskins they violate the NAP constantly and are culled one by one until none are left >Order is restored",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490954830 119042468,119059060,2017-03-31 10:08:12,">>119046896 >without a demographic of consistently high IQ So you're telling me that a white-ethnostate can do it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490954892 119042468,119059197,2017-03-31 10:10:08,">>119048285 I am convinced that you are a sociopath yourself Not everyone is like you, there are actual nice people in the world",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490955008 119042468,119059438,2017-03-31 10:13:07,">>119051121 >implying there wont be charity-protection or that you cant just protect your own damn self I will say that I am in favor of there being a state, because some things are made much easier and run much more smoothly with a central body in charge of them - like roads However their power would be incredibly limited and they would be completely vulnerable to the people removing them from office to keep them in check",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490955187 119042468,119059563,2017-03-31 10:14:41,">>119050908 Just change child labor laws you fool Why not let a ten year old make some money as a janitor? Make it illegal for kids to work in coal mines Also >something isnt illegal >I must do it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490955281 119042468,119059718,2017-03-31 10:16:42,">>119050908 Home-schooled children perform better than their public or private schooled peers in every area and do so consistently across the globe In the age of the internet, curiosity is the only thing you need to become a very educated person. You know how you keep a child's curiosity? By not sending them to school",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490955402 119042468,119059886,2017-03-31 10:18:35,">>119051775 >potentially without his consent Why this? Why can't we make it so the child has to confirm they want this person to be their guardian? People would 'buy' kids for the same reason they adopt them now you fucktard. We already have a child market, it's called the adoption system. >Pass the background checks >Go pick out your puppy >Pay the fee",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490955515 119042468,119061311,2017-03-31 10:36:27,"Bump, day of the removal when?",,Anonymous,1489007111938.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,US,,1490956587 119042468,119061354,2017-03-31 10:37:04,In an AnCap society could you clone human embryos?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490956624 119042468,119061533,2017-03-31 10:39:17,">>119061311 PRAISE",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490956757 119042468,119061706,2017-03-31 10:41:11,">>119061354 Sure I guess. I don't see why not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490956871 119042468,119061832,2017-03-31 10:42:37,">>119061706 Maybe because an embryo is a human being and therefore owner of its genes and cloning it by taking cells from its body would violate the NAP",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490956957 119042468,119062334,2017-03-31 10:48:38,">>119061832 I don't see how does this make sense. The embryo is just combined genetic material, and even if we considered it a person it is localized in some girl's womb it should respect her property (the uterus) or be expulsed. We could argue that taking cells from it could be some sort of rent for the use of the uterus. This is the weirdest property rights question I have met to this day.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490957318 119042468,119062632,2017-03-31 10:52:13,">>119062334 Well a virus is also ""combined genetic material"", but its dead and will never become a human, an embryo on the other hand will become a grown human once and therefore I think it should have rights from the moment of conception You could argue that the girl made a contract to have it in her womb by having unprotected sex",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490957533 119042468,119063818,2017-03-31 11:05:40,,,Anonymous,1477741770885.jpg,+a5bgTX1QX7YiaShinxAGw==,US,,1490958340 119042468,119064679,2017-03-31 11:15:09,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kREs5PfTnnk Hans-Hermann Hoppe Sidney 2011 - Australian Mises Seminar",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490958909 119042468,119065497,2017-03-31 11:25:03,"Reminder that Libertarianism is a Jewish psyop to control both sides of the debate (the only alternative to Communism is to let Jews practice their usury) and diminish Catholic social teaching Reminder that Libertarianism is in no way compatible with Catholic social teaching which teaches equally against capitalism and socialism, and that usury is a sin Reminder that the founders of Libertarianism were Jewish Reminder that Libertarianism started being pushed by the National Review after it got taken over by Jews Reminder that usury is the source of all the major economic problems and not state interference Reminder that while a collectivized society is undesirable, the type of individualism preached by Libertarianism is meant to break people's ties with their communities and nations and allow them to be enslaved by International Jewry Reminder that Libertarianism is a utopian ideology that is not achievable but would be undesirable even if it was achievable Reminder that Libertarianism is just classical liberalism and republicanism taken to its logical extreme and therefore it is not right wing Reminder that Libertarians associating themselves with the authoritarian statist Pinochet is just a way for them to damage control their failed ideology Reminder that Libertarianism cannot be logically separated from gay marriage, legal drugs, legal prostitution, secularism, open borders, and other degeneracy pushed by Jews Reminder that these are only a few objections but the other common ones (who will build the roads and such) are equally valid Reminder to sage these threads propagated by the same three autistic faggots Reminder Libertarians do not belong on this board",,Anonymous,emichaeljones.jpg,jFxmKviSOZHXlLqp/lSFrg==,US,,1490959503 119042468,119066085,2017-03-31 11:31:53,">>119065497 >t.assblasted stormfag unable to read a book >I don't understand it so it's jewish propaganda or psyop >ROTHBARD IZ LE JUICE SO DIS JUZT GOY OPERATIONS GOY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Also thx for free bump you dumbfuck.",,Anonymous,removal3.png,QypbLdEdNf2dQ1cnsJoypQ==,DE,,1490959913 119042468,119066122,2017-03-31 11:32:26,">>119065497 >Reminder that the founders of Libertarianism were Jewish nope the first was Say >Reminder that Libertarianism started being pushed by the National Review after it got taken over by Jews a journal doesn't represent the whole movement >Reminder that usury is the source of all the major economic problems and not state interference source:your ass >Reminder that while a collectivized society is undesirable, the type of individualism preached by Libertarianism is meant to break people's ties with their communities and nations and allow them to be enslaved by International Jewry you are not forced to join your communities that's the difference >Reminder that Libertarianism is a utopian ideology that is not achievable but would be undesirable even if it was achievable like NatSoc >Reminder that Libertarianism is just classical liberalism and republicanism taken to its logical extreme and therefore it is not right wing how does this doesn't make it right wing ? it should be far right so >Reminder that Libertarians associating themselves with the authoritarian statist Pinochet is just a way for them to damage control their failed ideology we just hate commies like him >Reminder that Libertarianism cannot be logically separated from gay marriage, legal drugs, legal prostitution, secularism, open borders, and other degeneracy pushed by Jews dis-cri-mi-na-tion >Reminder that these are only a few objections but the other common ones (who will build the roads and such) are equally valid nope,private roads in france >Reminder Libertarians do not belong on this board we're here since a long time newfag",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490959946 119042468,119066421,2017-03-31 11:35:57,">>119042468 >ywn live in pre war Rapture",,Anonymous,bioshock_andrew_ryan_wallpaper_by_the_mattness-d2ycx0x.jpg,CmzrQZZ3jvphPC3xU7QM/A==,IE,,1490960157 119042468,119066539,2017-03-31 11:37:31,>>119042822,,Anonymous,1490697662797.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,DE,,1490960251 119042468,119066637,2017-03-31 11:38:30,">>119051320 >>119051544 >>119051779 >>119056283 >>119059438 >All these non-answers dancing around the point. You can't have mercenaries are your sole form of defense. Historically, it has always been an incredibly bad idea.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490960310 119042468,119066892,2017-03-31 11:41:21,">>119066085 >Krautnigger calling anyone critical of Jewish dominance in our culture a stormfag F",,Anonymous,3e2.jpg,gX2DlqgPZr6V8ilIersKAw==,US,,1490960481 119042468,119067039,2017-03-31 11:43:07,">>119066122 >source:your ass Read Barren Metal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490960587 119042468,119067171,2017-03-31 11:44:34,">>119066892 >nononononononono I'm TOTALLY not a stormfag Then you're muslim. Either way. Get your violent socialistic expansionist ideology off my property",,Anonymous,1490873315223.jpg,LIOHfK9V9BhGr4hGzslqvg==,DE,,1490960674 119042468,119067298,2017-03-31 11:46:15,">>119067171 >more ad homs and straw men """"""""""Libertarian Intellectuals""""""""""",,Anonymous,are_you_frustrated.jpg,h5IymfqI/BW0MF7ZFzi0pA==,US,,1490960775 119042468,119067401,2017-03-31 11:47:26,Those who divide us are against us,,Anonymous,1490971957685.png,ywVULFUbIJ+AFdVdt37L9g==,US,,1490960846 119042468,119067469,2017-03-31 11:48:14,">>119045793 > projecting I took my (almost estranged) brother in off the street when he hit rock bottom and helped force him get his life back in order. At first, he was living rent free and didn't pay for food. He's steadily getting back on his feet and contributing now. He went into the trades, has a shitty car, and is an apprentice electrician. Go fuck yourself and your defeatist pessimistic view of humanity that necessitates the state's gun to our head in exchange for shit-tier charity. This is the kind of ""charity"" I am fine with giving - charity given of my own volition to causes I feel worth it. This is the kind of charity I expect would take place in a free society by non-degenerate, successful individuals. Your next post will be > things that didn't happen for 100 Alex It happened. Fuck yourself.",,Anonymous,1486170552819.gif,M1zDqxHoUk+a1UQmFAbp9Q==,CA,,1490960894 119042468,119067626,2017-03-31 11:49:58,">>119066637 >Historically, it has always been an incredibly bad idea. wtf I love the state now",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490960998 119042468,119067652,2017-03-31 11:50:19,">>119067401 Is this /qa/?",,Anonymous,1485772274160 (1).png,biL3OQKnxTB+5hjt0SHl7w==,GB,,1490961019 119042468,119067678,2017-03-31 11:50:35,">>119067298 >I don't ask question, I spout brainless shit >OH MY """"""LIBERTARIAN INTELLECTUALS"""""" >>119067401 Intredasting. Got baited well then. hahhaha Anyway, posting the removal memes is top notch",,Anonymous,1490842977425.png,UwEgI5kjnW5UGhN24uroJA==,DE,,1490961035 119042468,119067713,2017-03-31 11:51:04,">>119067298 >muh Jews muh Jews >not false equivalency Jews have all different ideologies,some of them are even fascists saying that X is more kiked than Y is a waste of time not critiquing the idea by itself",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490961064 119042468,119067926,2017-03-31 11:53:37,">>119066637 >People in the military are not mercenaries. >People in the military are not in it for the money. So naive.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490961217 119042468,119068022,2017-03-31 11:54:40,">>119067713 >muh single greatest historical and existential threat to the preservation of the European race and culture >it is wrong to say the Japanese bombed pearl harbor because not every Japanese person bombed pear harbor Nice logic you have there",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490961280 119042468,119068384,2017-03-31 11:58:47,"Will Venezuela become the first AnCap society after it collapses? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-30/venezuela-s-supreme-court-takes-over-national-assembly-duties",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490961527 119042468,119068563,2017-03-31 12:00:33,">>119062334 No, the embryo is a person. Do you condone child abuse because their are owned by their parents and live in their house? If your kid gets a haircut and you donate it as a wig material thats reasonable, it has no impact on your child at all. However if you clone someone from your kid that's pretty major - you could say that clone is a child of your child. You bring an entirely new life into the world utilizing your kid. Parent's have property rights over their kids property only if it doesn't have a major impact on the kid or if it's necessary (have to consent to surgery or kid dies)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490961633 119042468,119068592,2017-03-31 12:00:55,">>119068384 It's more like becoming some ideological NK. Worst case is a South American Somalia I guess.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490961655 119042468,119068682,2017-03-31 12:01:47,">>119068022 >muh single greatest historical and existential threat to the preservation of the European race and culture thanks catholic church ! >it is wrong to say the Japanese bombed pearl harbor because not every Japanese person bombed pear harbor Jews aren't as organized than the Japanese fleet",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490961707 119042468,119068835,2017-03-31 12:03:25,">>119065497 Who cares if people are gay when I get to call them a fag and Im not forced to bake them a cake? The problem is not degeneracy itself, that will always exist in some form, but that modern society does not allow the natural rejection of such degeneracy. Youre not just limited from killing them or beating them up(as is normal), but they are given extra rights against being offended or ostracized as well that would normally be enough in a society to dictate normal behavior.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490961805 119042468,119068918,2017-03-31 12:04:16,">>119068592 I think the population is too conscious about what's happening to submit themselves to permanent dictatorship With all the guns floating around it's only a question of time until someone starts forming an armed resistance",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490961856 119042468,119068986,2017-03-31 12:04:47,">>119058975 This",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490961887 119042468,119069059,2017-03-31 12:05:31,">>119067171 So what was Henry Ford?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490961931 119042468,119069342,2017-03-31 12:08:10,">>119068918 True. Prolly they'll become some kind of second Colombia with something like Farc. Or with several rebellious groups.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490962090 119042468,119069448,2017-03-31 12:09:28,">>119058975 They wouldn't get any benefits aside from leftists who might fund them voluntarily in the beginning but would soon realize the cancer they're feeding",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490962168 119042468,119069536,2017-03-31 12:10:14,">>119069059 an anti-semaite",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490962214 119042468,119069623,2017-03-31 12:10:55,">>119069342 So ""Mad Max Venezuela"" then? Would be pretty fun to watch, I hope someone sets up a livestream",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490962255 119042468,119069649,2017-03-31 12:11:11,CONQUER AND DIVIDE DIVIDE AND CONQUER Y R U ALL SO GULLIBLE TO LEFTIST TACTICS,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490962271 119042468,119069700,2017-03-31 12:11:46,">>119069059 a successful entrepreneur who despised Jews I have no problem with guy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490962306 119042468,119069743,2017-03-31 12:12:08,">>119068022 Funny you mention logic when you use a fallacy of association, which is quickly proven false the moment you realize there are way more jews against libertarianism than in its favor. Would be like if all of Japan protested against the war and then 2 Japanese decided to bomb Pearl Harbor, it would not have been treated as war but as terrorism, so your comparison is just a fallacy.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490962328 119042468,119069909,2017-03-31 12:13:57,">>119069623 Yeah that was what I was looking for. I just couldn't find the wording. MadMax-type society",,Anonymous,FKoRhbb.jpg,Urw/nuRXLYV4CEHcOkvd1g==,DE,,1490962437 119042468,119069939,2017-03-31 12:14:14,">>119067652 Probably leftypol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490962454 119042468,119070084,2017-03-31 12:15:35,">>119069342 >>119069909 I knew you would dodge my question. So was Henry Ford a storm fag or was he a Moslem?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490962535 119042468,119070266,2017-03-31 12:17:49,">>119067401 The problem with lefties is that they are so ignorant about other ideologies that they can't even resist 2 questions before they show their leftism. Capitalist giving shit for ruining Europe? Such an in depth analysis lmao",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1490962669 119042468,119070298,2017-03-31 12:18:05,">>119070084 What if he was 2 midgets in a coat ? Really made me think",,Anonymous,removal2.png,r2I3QxRCafRrzTc5qYoQlQ==,DE,,1490962685 119042468,119070482,2017-03-31 12:20:00,">>119070298 Henry Ford doesn't fit your narrative of Muh stormfag or muh mudslime so you dodge the question. How typical.",,Anonymous,ns.jpg,Fjc+1rmjMKyYacdb/2ARjQ==,CA,,1490962800 119042468,119070569,2017-03-31 12:20:56,">>119069743 >there are way more jews against libertarianism than in its favor. That doesn't mean anything necessarily considering that on both sides these movements are esoteric groups of elitist Jews. There are probably more Jews against Communism than for it but you wouldn't say that the Bolshevik movement wasn't a mostly Jewish movement at its core rather than a Russian Orthodox one. In any case, dismissing the JQ as a logical fallacy or calling me a stormfag or Muslim for caring about it only shows how ill equipped Libertarianism is to deal with it. You are either forced to treat it like a non issue, or defend the practical consequences of Libertarianism which would put more power in Jewish hands (ie the Jews having more power would be a good thing because they are smart and have our best interests at heart. The Jewish origins of Libertarianism isn't bad because they are really smart so it makes sense that the fathers of Libertarianism are mostly Jewish). You may convince yourselves of this but you sure as hell aren't convincing the rest of us that this is the case.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490962856 119042468,119070828,2017-03-31 12:23:46,">>119070482 Oh I'm a jew again. How convenient. >mimimi narrative Back to commie/pol/",,Anonymous,1490805837759.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,DE,,1490963026 119042468,119071077,2017-03-31 12:26:07,">>119070569 So you're a muslim stormfag. >everyone that doesn't agree with my dumb shit is a jew >everything I don't understand is jewish propaganda Shiet I bet all physicists and chemists are jews, too eh ?",,Anonymous,removal34.png,TOcOz9IxGlYKTFvrm2FjjA==,DE,,1490963167 119042468,119071100,2017-03-31 12:26:24,">>119070828 I never said you were a kike. Keep dodging tho.",,Anonymous,032ef037a66439cc78391398573808f0ab5fd2b56de8b8aa90c7863cf7c61360.jpg,XG5ndlLLyeyvX+7/0Yqsng==,CA,,1490963184 119042468,119071113,2017-03-31 12:26:30,How do you fix the problem of your country debt without taxes or elses ?,,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490963190 119042468,119071174,2017-03-31 12:27:06,">>119067926 >People in the military are not mercenaries. They aren't. Once somebody signs up for the military they are obligated to serve until their contract expires. They are legally required to fight if a war occurs during that time. Whereas a mercenary group could easily just fuck off and leave as soon as a war happens, or even possibly switch sides if the other side pays better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490963226 119042468,119071297,2017-03-31 12:28:21,">>119070569 Jews are really a smart community (the Ashkenazi ones) but even though they aren't an organized community (individually speaking,not religiously,mainly of them consider themselves atheist anyway) they have as stated McDonald a genetic-like reflex of destabilizing groups they are hosting for their own security,I would prefer isolate them and discriminate them in my covenants but that doesn't mean every single Jewish intellectual plot to destroy the west,they are just good analyst >>119071077 stop it you are starting being childish",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490963301 119042468,119071405,2017-03-31 12:29:36,">>119071100 >low until the holocaust thanks (((Hitler))) >>119071113 spending cuts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490963376 119042468,119071458,2017-03-31 12:30:09,">>119071077 >>everyone that doesn't agree with my dumb shit is a jew That could easily be flipped around on you. >Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a moslem or stormfag",,Anonymous,1490939476605.png,8HpXQKPRFxDz9ZEwCn0pLw==,CA,,1490963409 119042468,119071465,2017-03-31 12:30:13,">>119071113 You wouldn't have any debt because nobody would be willing to loan you money in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490963413 119042468,119071618,2017-03-31 12:31:47,">>119071405 You mean thanks allies for being kike puppets and letting international jewry win...",,Anonymous,cb257b5b92d6e3b88a41dfbab8c5d3ba8d77d7cf72c5ea5c93fe8130e20ea55e.jpg,XlIB9M+nRnq592EmfekyEQ==,CA,,1490963507 119042468,119071724,2017-03-31 12:32:55,">>119071174 >mercenaries have no contractual obligations Not that I'm fond of them, Machiavelli can explain why.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490963575 119042468,119071759,2017-03-31 12:33:19,"Libertarianism is a tool used by the Jew to lull people into nihilistic slumber, to make them not care as their nation falls to degeneracy and foreign conquest. It is and will always be controlled opposition.",,Anonymous,KIKES OF LIBERTARIANISM.jpg,0MyxzTjU527iuZZ/qG7vSQ==,DO,,1490963599 119042468,119071947,2017-03-31 12:35:24,">>119071724 They have contractual obligations IRL because they work for governments or corporations that will press charges if they don't do what they said they would. But if there is no state at all, how would you ever press charges? There is no legal system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490963724 119042468,119071996,2017-03-31 12:35:49,">>119042822 >Parents are failures >Kid only gets his traits from his parents. If someone feels like it or sees use in it, he is free to raise that kid. But the probability that he will help me or my children as much I help him forcefully, because the state imposes taxes and wastes that money on that kid, is close to 0.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1490963749 119042468,119072009,2017-03-31 12:35:58,">>119043351 This, if I'm the home owner of the apartment and I hear screaming and fighting every other day I'm going to do something about it. >they own their own house Well... Now that's an ethical dilemma, who's got the lever?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490963758 119042468,119072134,2017-03-31 12:37:19,,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490963839 119042468,119072141,2017-03-31 12:37:23,"Do right libertarians enforce anti-degeneracy laws, like no dudeweed or crack? I believe it is your responsibility to not fuck up your life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490963843 119042468,119072145,2017-03-31 12:37:25,">>119042468 Are you guys against me being a gay faggot?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490963845 119042468,119072206,2017-03-31 12:38:05,">>119071297 Nah I'm not being childish. I'm countering non-arguments with non-arguments. Because 1. it's a way of bumping - obviously I and the (you) other guys focus on answering real questions in first place anyway - and 2. I'm getting annoyed. I keep the threads up during the days and all I see is bait and stormie ciclejerk all the way - always boiling down to commie faggots not being able to handle the Hoppe. I'm glad though for everyone asking a real question.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490963885 119042468,119072259,2017-03-31 12:38:40,">>119071759 all these guys below were goys but were libertarian and ancap before the five guys in your pic Charles Dunoyer Charles Comte Frédéric de Bastiat Jean-Baptiste Say Carl Menger",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490963920 119042468,119072494,2017-03-31 12:41:09,">>119070828 You could use the same argument as in your pic to justify physical removal of all individuals who believe a state should exist",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490964069 119042468,119072602,2017-03-31 12:42:10,">>119072141 you can discriminate degenerates off your property and anyway the weak should die faster so let them fuck over their lives >>119072145 I will not bake cakes for you",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490964130 119042468,119072799,2017-03-31 12:44:08,">>119071759 Go be a nazi somewhere else faggot",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490964248 119042468,119072850,2017-03-31 12:44:46,">>119051779 >The idea that people fights for patriotism or whatever other shit is levels high of bizarre. Only people that have never been in a war can hold such a bizarre idea. Can confirm. Only one sergeant I ever met was dickhard enough for his country to actually die for it. Problem was it was only an act, he was like Hitler to us when it came to cult of personality. and getting us to respect and love him. Despite him lying to his own troops he was actually really good man, helped everyone if they needed it, never cared too much about that subordination shit.",,Anonymous,1484933912970.jpg,CI5rouDGxnvcpkZubuKaHQ==,LT,,1490964286 119042468,119073166,2017-03-31 12:48:18,">>119072206 >>119072799",,Anonymous,0ea8af561ae3ebd7fccd07b9262bc9ec8f9b2487b10a7048bab6c17aaaf94f5e.png,int47q4PQHpi3SS7tZu5Tg==,CA,,1490964498 119042468,119073188,2017-03-31 12:48:36,">>119072602 Do any public areas exist in this theoretical society? I don't see how an economy could even function without public roadways.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490964516 119042468,119073421,2017-03-31 12:51:16,">>119073188 No. A true libertarian society is based on private property and private property alone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490964676 119042468,119073432,2017-03-31 12:51:25,,,Anonymous,argument against diversity.png,3I/SM+qjTQQjWCXZv7j5og==,CA,,1490964685 119042468,119073459,2017-03-31 12:51:40,">>119073188 You'd just pay to use them",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490964700 119042468,119073516,2017-03-31 12:52:16,">>119072494 Nah. >[...] respect the others right to his own body and property […] Not everyone that believes a state should exist, is against the above statement. Communists on the other hand reject private propert and the integrity of one's own body (to exaggerate…: be it extermination in case of dissent or the slave work the state enforces upon the people)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490964736 119042468,119073526,2017-03-31 12:52:19,">>119073188 Only the sky and oceans could be considered ""public""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490964739 119042468,119073624,2017-03-31 12:53:14,">>119073188 >dude this route is disgusting I take more time for going to work >smart entrepreneur:I will build roads and will put a toll on it so people will ride on it massively and I make profit voilà",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490964794 119042468,119073726,2017-03-31 12:54:32,">>119073432 we know diversity is bad,even (((rothbard))) knows it what's your point ? why are you strawmanning this hard ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490964872 119042468,119073855,2017-03-31 12:55:53,">>119073432 >implying most libertarians aren't racial realists. Are canadians even white? they bring so much shame to the white race. they shouldn't be allowed in the ethnostate. Imagine canadians intermarrying with your relatives. Gross. Not on my watch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490964953 119042468,119073900,2017-03-31 12:56:22,">>119073421 Then it would never function. >>119073459 Sounds incredibly inefficient. How an unemployed person even look for work without having access to roads? >>119073526 No economy could ever function like that. >>119073624 If the only roads are toll roads then you're going to end up with a huge number of people who literally can't go anywhere because they don't have enough money to constantly pay tolls.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490964982 119042468,119073947,2017-03-31 12:56:52,">>119042468 >Degenerate globalists general What is this? Where you all talk about how leaving Americans unemployed so that multinational corporations get rich by sending their jobs overseas? Or do you guys talk about bringing illegals because minimum wage laws are oppressive?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965012 119042468,119074059,2017-03-31 12:57:52,">>119073855 >Country is the head of the kike hydra >>119073726 >why are you strawmanning this hard ? How is that strawman?",,Anonymous,2dd318579291171258393b2d81fed89f2e726975cc640c5dd3a2a4c082a00fea.png,/69gGQ5E0DAUtnw1ihQecA==,CA,,1490965072 119042468,119074130,2017-03-31 12:58:42,">>119042468 I consider myself mostly a right leaning libertarian, but do some of you retards really want to get rid of the WHOLE FUCKING GOVERMENT AND STATE, and live in a shithole like the wild west meets mad max, and the congo?",,Anonymous,1449359455619.gif,kXIWNRlBj324VZ0SCU4hEg==,US,,1490965122 119042468,119074138,2017-03-31 12:58:45,">>119073516 By believing that a state should exist you believe that an institution that can willingly infringe upon your rights to your own body and property should exist Therefore it is implied that people who believe in states do not believe that the ultimate sovereignty over property is not hold by its owner but by the state",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490965125 119042468,119074162,2017-03-31 12:59:02,">>119073900 we have privatized highways in France (even though we have massively socialist shit) and people still go to their job",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490965142 119042468,119074245,2017-03-31 12:59:51,">>119074162 I will not believe for 1 second that there aren't public roads and areas in France.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965191 119042468,119074263,2017-03-31 13:00:04,">>119073900 >Then it would never function. Oh shit ive been btfo, how will i ever recover. >Degenerate globalists general No we support secession movements that wish to cut their ties with globalisation. idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965204 119042468,119074266,2017-03-31 13:00:05,">>119073188 >car company wants to sell cars >roads are shitty so nobody buys them >car company pays construction company to fix roads >sells more cars One example >captcha: cars",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490965205 119042468,119074270,2017-03-31 13:00:09,">>119074138 >>119073516 sry one ""not"" too much in the last sentence kek",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490965209 119042468,119074340,2017-03-31 13:00:52,">>119074059 you are implying that libertarians don't know about racial question >>119074130 taxation is theft,private property and taxation is incoherent",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490965252 119042468,119074355,2017-03-31 13:01:02,">>119073900 >How an unemployed person even look for work unemployment is a socialist problem. why would there be a shortage of jobs when literally everything is privatized?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965262 119042468,119074407,2017-03-31 13:01:31,">>119042468 >we need open borders so brown people can vote for socialism and Jews can let our people turn themselves into abysmal degenerate horrors worse than mankind's sickest nightmares Cuckold ideology if I ever heard of one Crank that authority up to 100 and stop calling yourself libertarians. Stop pretending the love of dildos is what libertarianism is about, because we all know you only care about the economics. You can do that with being ethno-nationalist.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490965291 119042468,119074498,2017-03-31 13:02:31,">>119042468 the best government",,Anonymous,Screenshot 2017-03-31 05.23.50.png,xFuzyobYmQ7b3XzbEVX5Pg==,JP,,1490965351 119042468,119074509,2017-03-31 13:02:41,">>119074407 Don't be a faggot, ""open borders"" is forced integration. and an anti-libertarian idea.",,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1490965361 119042468,119074555,2017-03-31 13:03:05,">>119074245 the national route is nationalised and it's narrow and it's slow ass shit everybody prefer the highways",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490965385 119042468,119074577,2017-03-31 13:03:18,">>119074355 If you're claiming that a 100% employment rate is possible in ANY economic system then you're economically illiterate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965398 119042468,119074596,2017-03-31 13:03:27,">>119042468 How come there is nothing on here about the article in THE ATLANTIC linked on the front page of Drudge. It is all about based stick man and the alt right, specifically about 4chan pol. It is very biased toward BAMN and against 4 chan. https://newrepublic.com/article/141766/unlikely-rise-alt-right-hero ""“Based” is slang for not caring what other people think of you. “Stickman” is, well, a man with a stick. While it’s difficult to track down the moniker’s exact origin, it seems to have started, along with other nicknames like the “Alt-Knight,” in the place where many alt-right memes are born: 4chan’s “politically incorrect” board /pol/.",,anon,,,US,,1490965407 119042468,119074615,2017-03-31 13:03:42,">>119074059 >how is that strawman? >hey libertarians, I'm going to explain why your ideology is wrong by posting an image proving that civic nationalism is wrong",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490965422 119042468,119074685,2017-03-31 13:04:27,">>119074498 Healthcare Public & Private Owners 50% Funding wtf man",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490965467 119042468,119074727,2017-03-31 13:04:50,">>119074509 >We are going to flood your country will muslims and africans, but dont worry goy because they wont be allowed to go inside your property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965490 119042468,119074766,2017-03-31 13:05:13,">>119074509 >onto your property Ye alright lad Just go the way of the North West then. Learn to care about your country not being brown instead of just your own NEET household.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490965513 119042468,119074792,2017-03-31 13:05:26,">>119073900 Roads wouldn't be very expensive to use because of all the competition and it would be very efficient, because the owner would have to enforce property rights over the road to an extent that it stays clean and usable. Also he would use the best materials to build it because nothing cuts down on your income like a road that can't be used because it's currently under maintenance Also without any banking regulations it would be pretty easy to get a loan at a good rate even when you're unemployed I'd even add that there would most likely be unions that you could be a member of that would help you out when you're in need",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490965526 119042468,119074833,2017-03-31 13:05:49,">>119074407 niggers tends to be welfare leeches Arabs are criminals and destroying private property not economically efficient for me hoppity hoppity ban shitskins off my property",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490965549 119042468,119074923,2017-03-31 13:06:44,">>119074138 A state will always exist. It doesn't matter whether anybody supports one or not. Every power vacuum eventually gets filled. To be clear, I'm saying that even if 100% of all people didn't want a government, the government would still exist in some form. Hell, even animals have (very primitive) government structures, like how wolves have an Alpha who leads the pack.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965604 119042468,119075004,2017-03-31 13:07:28,">>119042468 contributing to best thread",,Anonymous,xt5l3br3gqax.png,hp3gptXZJZ+MFR99FpDU3Q==,US,,1490965648 119042468,119075014,2017-03-31 13:07:34,">>119074615 >>119074340 Just because that image rustled your feathers doesn't mean I was attacking anyone with it. You are interpreting the way you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7rMVuETAy0",,Anonymous,485aec4f4854aaa0f5650084f5ab1e25fe8957e30a03ed8215093048fdf1cb21.jpg,eDNK+TcvObTxPR3tx2GyoA==,CA,,1490965654 119042468,119075017,2017-03-31 13:07:36,">>119074727 >>119074766 there is no public property in a private property society you shit. No public roads, no public parks, no public borders. no public nation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965656 119042468,119075021,2017-03-31 13:07:38,">>119074833 and the far majority of Americans, French people, Dutch people, etc are in favour of brownification, so your race will die out. Unless you people are using private property as a metaphor for the entire country for some weird reason, you're incredibly shallow and autistic about this.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490965658 119042468,119075055,2017-03-31 13:08:05,">>119074130 Minarchy is best just to prevent foreign invasion",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490965685 119042468,119075065,2017-03-31 13:08:08,">>119074340 >taxiaion is theft You can't steal something that is willingly given to you, I pay taxes so my neighbor's house fire doesn't also burn down my house. You couldn't possible have more then one company that does things like enforce the law, protect the people, repair and maintain roads and bridges, fix public parks. that is why we have the government do it, or else it would turn into a confusing mess! We need taxes to fund what the government does, and the government does what the people alone or companies can't do! I don't pay taxes to fill some politicians pocket, or so I can keep my private property, I pay taxes to fund things I want and a small goverment is a good way to keep track of where my taxes go!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965688 119042468,119075087,2017-03-31 13:08:20,">>119074792 >Roads wouldn't be very expensive to use because of all the competition What competition? If I'm driving from point A to point B, then I have to use whatever roads that exist between A and B to get there. I will use the shortest potential route, just like everybody else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965700 119042468,119075138,2017-03-31 13:08:51,">>119074923 Tell me more about the wolves that pay taxes to their leader",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490965731 119042468,119075145,2017-03-31 13:08:55,">>119074577 kek",,Anonymous,1490895753319.jpg,lxgfyEEBwLjMGjovYvsx9Q==,US,,1490965735 119042468,119075189,2017-03-31 13:09:16,">>119075021 private property as a metaphor for the entire country. we are advocating for a private property society so yes the ""nation"" would be entierly private property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965756 119042468,119075201,2017-03-31 13:09:25,">>119074407 >ancap >democracy >no welfare state >shitskin invasion",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490965765 119042468,119075203,2017-03-31 13:09:27,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490965767 119042468,119075206,2017-03-31 13:09:27,">>119074766 >libertarian >NEET don't make sense except if your name is Ayn Rand",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490965767 119042468,119075212,2017-03-31 13:09:31,">>119074340 >private property and taxation is incoherent Meanwhile in the real world they've co-existed for hundreds if not thousands of years.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965771 119042468,119075220,2017-03-31 13:09:35,">>119075017 And you're gambling on literally everyone that owns property not to be a cuckold and ruin your grandchildren's future? Of course you're not. What a retarded 'ideology', you're just obsessed about autisticly applying your little rules ad absurdum. Because as long as you trace the NAP to whatever conclusion you can, it must be right, right?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490965775 119042468,119075310,2017-03-31 13:10:27,">>119075014 k my bad",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490965827 119042468,119075322,2017-03-31 13:10:36,">>119075203 A great film made by a based Anarcho-Capitalist. I've watched it three times.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965836 119042468,119075377,2017-03-31 13:11:05,">>119075201 In an ancap society, how do we stop faggots from creating shitholes like these, without regulation and building codes enforced by the local government?",,Anonymous,....jpg,wqIqyDvhyEiLUu3Z80vSLA==,US,,1490965865 119042468,119075384,2017-03-31 13:11:09,">>119075138 The Alpha gets first dips on every kill.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965869 119042468,119075418,2017-03-31 13:11:26,">>119075189 >we are advocating for a private property society so yes the ""nation"" would be entierly private property. So you don't care about race at all. And your future is full of weird tranny freaks performing poopsex exhibitions. What are you doing on /pol/? Your shallow economic obsession isn't controversial on other platforms.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490965886 119042468,119075419,2017-03-31 13:11:26,">>119075087 Yeah and if using that road is unreasonably expensive there would be demand for a cheaper alternative so someone would build one that may be longer but cheaper and the other road would become unprofitable and the owner would most likely lower the prizes to push the competitor out of business",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490965886 119042468,119075476,2017-03-31 13:12:07,">>119075021 the far right is rising,more and more people knows diversity is bullshit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490965927 119042468,119075479,2017-03-31 13:12:10,">>119075017 This is the dumbest shit I ever read, libertarians truly are autistic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965930 119042468,119075511,2017-03-31 13:12:30,">>119075384 Good thing that we are a civilized society and not animals then",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490965950 119042468,119075568,2017-03-31 13:13:01,">>119075479 r u new? non argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490965981 119042468,119075610,2017-03-31 13:13:22,">>119075419 >Anybody can just build a new road to any location, it's not like geography prevents this from being remotely possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966002 119042468,119075620,2017-03-31 13:13:27,">>119075419 so we are just going to ruin the environment and have a country that is 80% concrete strips?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966007 119042468,119075677,2017-03-31 13:13:56,">>119075212 still incoherent >>119075384 and the CEO have the highest wage",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490966036 119042468,119075752,2017-03-31 13:14:37,">>119075418 I do care about my race but if %40 of my nation is made of shitskins then obviously nation=/=race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966077 119042468,119075755,2017-03-31 13:14:38,">>119075476 In their ideal world this wouldn't matter, because if 30% of the country want to invite over 2 billion feral Africans they should be allowed to. And then suddenly you're a minority in your own 'environment' (as countries wouldn't exist anymore) and your grandchildren will all be Africans. Nope. The 2 billion Africans that are going to want to leave Africa in the coming decades shouldn't be allowed to be let into White 'environments' by liberals. GASP! But that's a violation of their NAP!!! Yeah, it is.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490966078 119042468,119075773,2017-03-31 13:14:49,">>119075620 we don't care about your environment commie, although the free market would most likely be more environment friendly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966089 119042468,119075787,2017-03-31 13:14:56,">>119074577 Well in lolbertarianism they would be either dead or helping their parents farm/business. I'm a Nazi but that ones pretty clear.",,Anonymous,live ree.png,NHZlurCM1iiAzI+5pkZEAA==,LT,,1490966096 119042468,119075831,2017-03-31 13:15:21,">>119075065 >You can't steal something that is willingly given to you jailing me for not paying it is not voluntary",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490966121 119042468,119075896,2017-03-31 13:15:53,">>119075017 >public roads, no public parks I like those things, how will a take a toll free drive to the calm and well kept and regulated public park with my dog now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966153 119042468,119075913,2017-03-31 13:16:01,how do you deal with the question of nuclear weapons?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490966161 119042468,119076052,2017-03-31 13:17:14,">>119075755 >because if 30% of the country want to invite over 2 billion feral Africans they should be allowed to not in ancapistan,only the ones who likes them would allow them to come,not those who discriminate",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490966234 119042468,119076064,2017-03-31 13:17:23,">>119075377 >waste millions of dollars building disgusting shitpile >nobody lives there because it's fucking disgusting >the whole thing starts breaking down and depreciating in value >building company buys land off you for a tenth of the price you did >cry into your hands as they tear it down",,Anonymous,1489491535527.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,GB,,1490966243 119042468,119076111,2017-03-31 13:17:47,">>119075896 join a community that has a volintary contract that you will pay dues to go to parks and roads. >>119075913 we'll use them on communists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966267 119042468,119076146,2017-03-31 13:18:07,">>119075511 >we are a civilized society But I thought any society with government was evil? If we accept ancap dogma then no country with government could ever be civilized. >>119075773 >although the free market would most likely be more environment friendly 100% delusional. >>119075831 You benefit from public services that the government operates. Taxes help the government maintain those services. It's no different than a land-lord charging rent to help pay for maintenance costs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966287 119042468,119076229,2017-03-31 13:19:01,">>119076052 >No company would ever try to import cheap labor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966341 119042468,119076329,2017-03-31 13:19:57,">>119072259 You should include Molinari, Bohm-Bawerk, Hazlitt, Hayek, Hoppe, and so on, too. I mean, really, the anti-semitism qua anti-semitism is just silly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966397 119042468,119076455,2017-03-31 13:21:13,">>119075620 No because roads would only be built if the builder deems it will be profitable If for some reason many people are dumb and there are so many roads that most of them aren't profitable, the land they're built on will lose its value and you're free to buy it and use it for eco farming or build a natural park with animals and make visitors pay or whatever My point is if there is demand for environment there will be environment >>119075610 People would look for alternatives in that scenario until the owner is forced to lower the prices so people would rather use his road than fly with a helicopter",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490966473 119042468,119076475,2017-03-31 13:21:24,">>119076146 if someone were to pay you a 100 billion dollars on the terms that the jews get to overtly genocide your race would you do it? No. free trade means people get to choose. that does not mean people will always go for max profit. people will choose not to have toxic drinkwater and refuse to pay for destructive products.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966484 119042468,119076493,2017-03-31 13:21:35,">>119076146 >civilization = government kys",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490966495 119042468,119076552,2017-03-31 13:22:07,">>119076146 >You benefit from public services that the government operates it gives cash to parliamentarians that I hate,niggers that I despise and to leftists hipsters who can't find a job >Taxes help the government maintain those services. what if I can compete with this services with mercenaries or security guards who can protect people ? It proves gubmint is unnecessary for this cases if someone can compete and make better services",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490966527 119042468,119076580,2017-03-31 13:22:29,">>119075610 The competition argument doesn't really hold in the case of roads, but the voluntarism still works. Road companies don't need to charge tolls. If you need to drive down specific roads each day and the get potholes or cracks then you wouldn't want them there. You could then pay the road company to fix it buy yourself or ask other people who use it to help fund it, because it's in all of your shared interest.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490966549 119042468,119076620,2017-03-31 13:22:54,">>119075773 Tell that to india >>119075831 Thats kind of what you get >Be ancap >Drive on toll road >Don't pay toll >Get arrested by McDonnalds police and tortured >Die >Be me >Don't pay taxes >Drive on public road >Use public services paid for by tax payers >Get a nice call by the IRS telling you to pay your bill >Face the possibility of going to jail >Go to government regulated jail and aren't tortured or assaulted The second system sounds better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966574 119042468,119076735,2017-03-31 13:24:00,">>119076111 >join a community that has a volintary contract that you will pay dues to go to parks and roads. What happens when that community gets larger, and takes over the whole country, what do you call that then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966640 119042468,119076746,2017-03-31 13:24:06,">>119076146 >100% delusional. non-argument again. cars and roads are inefficient solutions to transport, which came about due to lobbying. rails are cheaper and more economical. oil is propped up by government subsidies and warmongering. property value goes down with pollution. inefficient solutions die",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966646 119042468,119076846,2017-03-31 13:25:05,">>119076229 >no minimum wage >importing labor Why?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490966705 119042468,119076897,2017-03-31 13:25:38,">>119076229 if they do it would maybe work for the 1st gen but after their kids would be degenerates thugs who will be shot down,and those who discriminate and keep only their kind would be 1)more liked by the population for working with only their people 2)more productive in the long term",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490966738 119042468,119077077,2017-03-31 13:27:20,">>119076552 If you don't like what the government is doing become a politician or support one who wants to make the government smaller and suit your needs, or just write a letter to one of your favorite politicians/congressman. don't just throw out the baby with the bath water.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966840 119042468,119077109,2017-03-31 13:27:34,">>119076735 They can't use the threat of violence or jail to enforce a monopoly",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490966854 119042468,119077162,2017-03-31 13:28:03,">>119076620 >Thats kind of what you get >Be ancap >Drive on toll road >Don't pay toll >Get arrested by McDonald's police and tortured >die nobody forces me to use this road particulary",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490966883 119042468,119077184,2017-03-31 13:28:19,">>119076111 >join a community that has a volintary contract that you will pay dues to go to parks and roads I already did. It's called the United States of America. Living in this country is purely voluntary. There are no laws that prevent people from moving out. >>119076552 >what if I can compete with this services with mercenaries or security guards who can protect people You can already do this. There is nothing stopping somebody from starting their own private security company. Many such firms exist IRL. The evil government isn't preventing you from doing this. >>119076580 >The competition argument doesn't really hold in the case of roads Very true. >Road companies don't need to charge tolls. Because in real-life the government pays them to create and maintain roadways. >>119076846 Why not? If there are no immigration laws, why wouldn't I import Chinese who will do the same job for 1/10 the cost?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966899 119042468,119077240,2017-03-31 13:28:55,">>119077162 Geography forces you to use certain roads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966935 119042468,119077267,2017-03-31 13:29:11,">>119076455 >If for some reason many people are dumb You haven't figured this out yet? The average person is painfully retarded, do you know how many businesses fail due to simple incompetence?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490966951 119042468,119077293,2017-03-31 13:29:29,">>119071947 Turning on your clients is usually a bad policy. But i think minarchism allows for a form of state controlled military...right?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1490966969 119042468,119077351,2017-03-31 13:30:15,">>119077109 >They can't use the threat of violence or jail to enforce a monopoly How do you deal with crime then? If somebody within the community is accused of murder, how do you handle that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967015 119042468,119077359,2017-03-31 13:30:21,">>119077109 Why not?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967021 119042468,119077411,2017-03-31 13:30:52,">>119077267 >muh all people are stupid therefore government They'd learn the hard way but they'd learn eventually As long as they can say ""why should I learn? It's the governments job to prevent this durr hurr"" they won't learn and that's for sure",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490967052 119042468,119077452,2017-03-31 13:31:14,">>119077077 >If you don't like what the government is doing become a politician or support one who wants to make the government smaller and suit your needs but if there are people who can ensure my protection (the so-called primal goal of the government in the declaration of rights of man) why would I pay taxes ? also if I use the government votes for suiting my needs I am illegitimate for criticize people who do the same thing against me",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490967074 119042468,119077539,2017-03-31 13:32:23,">>119077267 Also if most humans are stupid why would you build an institution ran by the very same humans that can force you to obey it? I'd rather distribute that power",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490967143 119042468,119077555,2017-03-31 13:32:34,">>119077267 If those dumb people make dumb choices in a free market they will fail and the smart people succeed. Meanwhile in governments they make those decisions constantly and the entire population suffers for it.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490967154 119042468,119077596,2017-03-31 13:32:57,">>119077240 >rich person buys a small strip of land that bisects the entire continent >charges toll fee to cross land otherwise property violation >can only cross continent via air >entire fucking planet decides to boycott and exile land owner >land owner becomes poor as shit, sells land that's even assuming you can buy land for cheap in an ancap society. Land is extremely costly and anyone buying or owning land needs to make returns on their money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967177 119042468,119077618,2017-03-31 13:33:11,">>119077184 then why I should pay taxes if I don't need government services ? >>119077240 >not using another road but driving faster >not actually paying the toll",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490967191 119042468,119077705,2017-03-31 13:34:08,">>119077555 This And there is no natural way that could force the government to rethink its efficiency because it can always just raise taxes",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490967248 119042468,119077710,2017-03-31 13:34:11,">>119077293 Most of the people here don't want a minimal government. They want NO government. There is a very important distinction there. A society can function with a minimal government, but not with no government. >>119077618 >There are unlimited roads to any location >What is geography",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967251 119042468,119077716,2017-03-31 13:34:15,">>119077539 >>119077555 >Be born a rich idiot >fuck over everyone else with my money >No government to stop me ???",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967255 119042468,119077746,2017-03-31 13:34:33,">>119077267 >The average person is painfully retarded >so lets have an immovable monopoly with unlimited power >surely retards will get nowhere near this and now we have stuff like ""hate speech"" laws and ""gender gaps"" BOY I LOVE THE STATE DONT YOU",,Anonymous,1490847301338.jpg,YxdM1fCD5CBqK3CcFbayOg==,US,,1490967273 119042468,119077808,2017-03-31 13:35:04,"Here's how these threads go: >insecure authoritarian faggots ask how their low IQ perception of society and moral conduct can be implemented in an AnCap society >faggots who've read too much Hoppe try to show how their ideology conforms to those aforementioned low IQ beliefs >they don't even know that Hoppe is a mere reactionary larping as a an AnCap and that many of his views are incompatible with libertarian ethics and philosophy Fuck you faggots true libertarians don't compromise. Natsoc, paranoia, chauvinism and anything that smells faintly like authoritarianism has no place in a liberal society. lovers of freedom don't accommodate those who blame Jews and niggers for this woes because they are too cowardly and weak to solve their own problems with their own hands",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1490967304 119042468,119077835,2017-03-31 13:35:22,">>119076329 thanks,since I'm french I know only the french ones",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490967322 119042468,119077846,2017-03-31 13:35:28,">>119077411 Does anyone else get rock hard at the thought that the tax rate for pass-through entities might get as low as 15%? I have a small business in the US, and I've been paying the personal top rate of ~40% for years. Paul Ryan plz",,Anonymous,time_paulryan_20111205_0519.jpg?quality=85&w=373.jpg,DEzMvcN9z4couC4JdC4v9Q==,JP,,1490967328 119042468,119077870,2017-03-31 13:35:37,">>119077716 Private law societies and an armed population would stop you dumbass",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490967337 119042468,119077918,2017-03-31 13:36:05,">>119077716 >Be born a rich idiot >lose it all because you're an idiot >be born an incompetent sociopath power hungry cunt >become a government official >fuck shit up for millions of people",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490967365 119042468,119077932,2017-03-31 13:36:16,,,Anonymous,teleports behind you.jpg,rp2/Y4Q00TKmdXLTXyt5zg==,US,,1490967376 119042468,119077939,2017-03-31 13:36:24,"So my dear freedom loving bros, today i argued our philosophy against a moderate leftist ""lawyer"", who advocate the usual stuff (public education, welfare taxes and healthcare etc). Thanks to the /lrg/ i managed to come up on top and convinced many people of our reasoning (especially concerning self defense) but one thing she said almost made me lose the debate (i managed to sway the conversation further) >this ideology ultimately favors only the rich How can i come back from something like that? How does libertarianism favor the poor as well?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1490967384 119042468,119077974,2017-03-31 13:36:48,">>119077746 The government only has unlimited power in totalitarian societies. In most countries, there are constitutional limitations on government power and beyond that, government officials are accountable to the public because they can be voted out of office.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967408 119042468,119078003,2017-03-31 13:37:07,">>119077618 >then why I should pay taxes if I don't need government services ? Why should I pay insurance if I'm not sick yet? It's so that the people who do need government services aren't stuck paying taxes, while you decide fuck it, and let them suffer, until you do need the police or the roads and pay taxes one single time, then stop paying again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967427 119042468,119078034,2017-03-31 13:37:26,">>119077716 >go bankrupt",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490967446 119042468,119078042,2017-03-31 13:37:30,">>119077974 >government officials are accountable to the public because they can be voted out of office",,Anonymous,Manul lol.jpg,Yo4LFqIb0pVUCNgRN4yNJQ==,SI,,1490967450 119042468,119078062,2017-03-31 13:37:42,">>119077939 You're free to found unions and get together for a shared interest",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490967462 119042468,119078086,2017-03-31 13:37:57,">>119042468 This is a shill thread trying to divide and conquer the right wing. >Stop sub-dividing into small right wing groups. We need to stick together.",,Anonymous,Diversity is white genocide.jpg,5qu8TiTbgGsDYPyW+8TKkw==,US,,1490967477 119042468,119078149,2017-03-31 13:38:31,">>119077746 >an immovable monopoly with unlimited power >It's either no government or FULL FUCKING AUTHORITARIAN STATE Are you stupid, have you not been outside, or learned about government in school?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967511 119042468,119078183,2017-03-31 13:38:53,">>119078034 >go bankrupt >entire world hates you >no one will do business with you because of fear of exile >you fucking stay poor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967533 119042468,119078260,2017-03-31 13:39:32,">>119078042 >Living in a shit-hole where you can't vote for who you want to run the government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967572 119042468,119078262,2017-03-31 13:39:35,">>119078003 >Why should I pay insurance if I'm not sick yet? but in this case I already have my insurance,it's just banded",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490967575 119042468,119078355,2017-03-31 13:40:25,">>119077974 >be head of government >put all your bros in the top positions >privilege them and fuck up everything for everyone else >muh legislature wants to intervene but I just declare the parliament illegal lol >I'm still perfectly legitimized because the country has a constitution and I'm democratically elected welcome to venezuela 2017",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490967625 119042468,119078487,2017-03-31 13:41:42,">>119078062 unions in the sense of workers union? Like medieval guilds?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1490967702 119042468,119078608,2017-03-31 13:43:00,">>119078260 You vote with your wallet. CEOs are much more accountable than politicians. If they even say the wrong shit the stocks tank and they're forced to step down. And besides if we're talking ancap they're not even governing. If you go into neocameralism I'll bet you my nuts that those governments would much much better than democratic ones.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490967780 119042468,119078642,2017-03-31 13:43:27,">>119078355 >be head of government Cool. >put all your bros in the top positions Such appointments usually require congressional approval. >privilege them and fuck up everything for everyone else Lol, why would anybody vote for you then in the next election? >muh legislature wants to intervene but I just declare the parliament illegal lol This literally only happens in shit-hole countries",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967807 119042468,119078676,2017-03-31 13:43:50,">>119078487 you'll get paid less because people won't want to hire you, but you'll have more job stability. same way it goes now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967830 119042468,119078697,2017-03-31 13:43:56,">>119077939 If I was rich you would be calling me a greedy man who defend his interests If I was poor you would be call me a masochist And since I am from the middle class I prefer being richer and so on I prefer having more freedom for being richer so I am could be happy Are you criticizing me for wanting to being happy ? *mike drop*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490967836 119042468,119078711,2017-03-31 13:44:06,">>119078487 In any sense When you find people who voluntarily support an organization that for example makes contracts for their members with corporations to raise their wages you have a union and you're free to organize as workers or poor people",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490967846 119042468,119078742,2017-03-31 13:44:24,">>119078183 >go bankrupt Use money to buy a profitable and smaller company and stay afloat through greedy jew measures >entire world hates you Too bad I own what they need and as the most powerful company hold a monopoly on any production company >no one will do business with you because of fear of exile Pay a gang to ""change their minds"" and pay other people to cover it up and cut all ties to me >Stay rich and in power.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967864 119042468,119078856,2017-03-31 13:45:35,">>119078642 What next election? Venezuela is an easy example, I give you that but the US gov is stable but inflexible and thus more inefficient",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490967935 119042468,119078939,2017-03-31 13:46:29,">>119078742 >Pay a gang to ""change their minds"" >lack understanding of polycentric law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490967989 119042468,119079017,2017-03-31 13:47:16,,,Anonymous,NoRoadVille.png,bPTBNT23d4SIPJrtnCj85g==,TW,,1490968036 119042468,119079020,2017-03-31 13:47:18,">>119078608 >CEOs are much more accountable than politicians. CEO's are accountable to their share-holders, not the general public. And that's fine. The point of a corporation is a produce profit for investors, that is their only real responsibility. But the government has to look at wider issues than just profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968038 119042468,119079102,2017-03-31 13:48:06,">>119078856 >Unless my utopian standards are met the entire government is evil",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968086 119042468,119079112,2017-03-31 13:48:13,>>119079017,,Anonymous,R9ObHWc.png,2pwCSMd1XAXM0x/07eYl+A==,US,,1490968093 119042468,119079120,2017-03-31 13:48:22,">>119078742 >Use money to buy a profitable and smaller company and stay afloat through greedy jew measures still nobody would want to trade with you >Too bad I own what they need and as the most powerful company hold a monopoly on any production company too bad a single one person can find an idea to compete with you and dethrone you want nobody likes you >Pay a gang to ""change their minds"" and pay other people to cover it up and cut all ties to me too bad private detectives exists and McNukes would be used for violating the NAP",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490968102 119042468,119079169,2017-03-31 13:48:58,"Anyone here heard of curt doolittle? The man is an absolute genius https://propertarianism.com/",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1490968138 119042468,119079258,2017-03-31 13:49:52,">>119079102 It takes away your property by force without your consent and creates laws that you have to obey no matter if you want it or not That's pretty evil if you ask me",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490968192 119042468,119079331,2017-03-31 13:50:38,">>119078355 >>be head of government >>put all your bros in the top positions >>privilege them and fuck up everything for everyone else >>muh legislature wants to intervene but I just declare the parliament illegal lol >>I'm still perfectly legitimized because the country has a constitution and I'm democratically elected >Get impeached anyways due to multiple breaches of the constitute and over stepping the checks and balances. >Don't get elected next year, and or just go to jail! >People get so pissed they just kill you like real patriots, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants from time to time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968238 119042468,119079421,2017-03-31 13:51:35,">>119078711 >>119078676 I see, thanks",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1490968295 119042468,119079431,2017-03-31 13:51:43,">>119077870 >Private law societies and an armed population would stop you dumbass Not if I send paid mercenaries to stop them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968303 119042468,119079481,2017-03-31 13:52:08,">>119079331 So because it can be stable it's good?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490968328 119042468,119079580,2017-03-31 13:52:54,">>119078742 >Use money to buy a profitable and smaller company >run that into the ground as well >destitute >nobody will loan you money >no government friends to help out >>119079020 >the government has to look at wider issues than just profit Concrete example, please. >inb4 muh pollution You think politicians aren't lobbied constantly to fuck over public property? What incentive do they have to protect it? Reputation is nice. But profit is better. And if your private property gets damaged and you hire a company to resolve the situation you want them to actually deal with the problem. As opposed to putting some idiot bureaucrat in charge and hope he'll ""save the environment"".",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490968374 119042468,119079634,2017-03-31 13:53:23,">>119079258 >It takes away your property by force without your consent Unless your country has actual laws that prevent you from emigrating, you are agreeing to taxes by choosing to stay there. You can always vote for a party that wants lower taxes. >creates laws that you have to obey no matter if you want it or not Frankly, I don't see how that is any different than the ""collectives"" or ""covenants"" that you guys keep talking about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968403 119042468,119079653,2017-03-31 13:53:32,">>119079431 still lack any understanding of polycentric law watch the video I linked and stop sticking your head in the ground pretending there doesn't exist a solution",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968412 119042468,119079689,2017-03-31 13:53:51,">>119079431 You'd be out of money pretty quick Wars aren't profitable",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490968431 119042468,119079940,2017-03-31 13:56:11,">>119079634 So if you enter my house you implicitly agreed that I can rape you? Nice to know, must have overheard that when the nurse told me this at my birth You probably mean private law societies and you'd be free to join them This essay points it out really well https://mises.org/library/idea-private-law-society",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490968571 119042468,119079995,2017-03-31 13:56:44,">>119079580 >Concrete example, please. Pollution. I wasn't going to say this but you said it first. >What incentive do they have to protect it? Because voters will complain if they don't. >You think politicians aren't lobbied constantly to fuck over public property? I don't see how eliminating all public property solves that problem. >And if your private property gets damaged and you hire a company to resolve the situation you want them to actually deal with the problem How the fuck does a company ""resolve the situation"" without violating the supposed NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968604 119042468,119080087,2017-03-31 13:57:35,">>119079940 >So if you enter my house you implicitly agreed that I can rape you? No, because the government recognizes rape as a crime, even if it occurs on private property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968655 119042468,119080263,2017-03-31 13:59:03,">>119079995 >Pollution. I wasn't going to say this but you said it first. even CHINA who does not give a flying FUCK about the environment or pollution is investing in green energy. It's simply unlivable and they need to invest because we'll run out of oil soon. Or it will become increasingly prohibitive and expensive due to scarcity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968743 119042468,119080325,2017-03-31 13:59:32,">>119045928 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc we're not lobertarians buddy",,Anonymous,Zeon_Officers.jpg,Mo6+Rw8ChONxaCYKXEZGWw==,US,,1490968772 119042468,119080428,2017-03-31 14:00:27,">>119079995 >How the fuck does a company ""resolve the situation"" without violating the supposed NAP? Class action lawsuit, nigger. In a free market the judges aren't a monopoly that gets to do whatever they want. Their main goal is to protect private property. And if everything is private then where are the companies going to dump their shit? >Because voters will complain if they don't. Hahaha like they give a shit. They'll take the pay and retire in their comfy beach house.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490968827 119042468,119080682,2017-03-31 14:02:43,">>119080087 My point is unless there is a mutual agreement the contract doesn't exist and I never signed a contract to pay taxes >but you could've just left durrhurr Pretty hard to do as an infant who doesn't even know what property is",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490968963 119042468,119080719,2017-03-31 14:03:03,">>119078939 I like this video, but for what purpose would having a complex system such as this replace the working and classical liberal system our founding fathers put in place? How could we trust Mr. smiths private court, how do I know my agency isn't in cahoots with your agency, or my agency doesn't know that Mr. smith's court is on a secret payroll of your agency? There are so many possibilities of corruption and monopolies that without a government and FBI type agency would never been solved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490968983 119081436,119081436,2017-03-31 14:09:57,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. (pic related is the gasdskek flag I made (not finished yet) >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Saya,prototypekekgasdsen.png,bE2HZEyt5NPxj48jp79yMA==,FR,,1490969397 119081436,119081511,2017-03-31 14:10:50,,,Saya,,,FR,,1490969450 119081436,119081546,2017-03-31 14:11:14,,,Saya,,,FR,,1490969474 119081436,119081601,2017-03-31 14:11:41,,,Saya,,,FR,,1490969501 119081436,119081724,2017-03-31 14:12:56,">>119081436 bump",,Anonymous,E544sgx.jpg,PtdlhP5UIaEDWHhKkkAqPw==,US,,1490969576 119081436,119081809,2017-03-31 14:13:42,">>119081436 >>119080428 >Class action lawsuit You can't sue my if there is no legal system >In a free market the judges aren't a monopoly that gets to do whatever they want. I would simply refuse to go to trial with any judge you'd pick. I would pick own judge, and refuse to go to court unless you agreed to him. You have no way of forcing me to accept any lawsuit without violating NAP. >Their main goal is to protect private property. If this is a society where all interactions are voluntary then why would I ever agree to your lawsuit or your judge? If you force me to go to court without accepting the judge that I want, then that's non-voluntary because I will not agree to that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490969622 119081436,119081923,2017-03-31 14:14:49,">>119081601 >>119081546 >>119081511 Reminder that nearly all of these sources advocate for limited government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490969689 119081436,119082122,2017-03-31 14:16:49,">>119081436 >kekist*n >libertarian in Europe",,Anonymous,1490945921919.webm,AmpqpiDX9B18bfCxZuioYw==,FR,,1490969809 119081436,119082161,2017-03-31 14:17:11,Libertarianism is political nihilism and will lead to being dominated by more assertive political movements.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490969831 119081436,119082232,2017-03-31 14:17:58,,,Saya,1476388541749.png,qwQ9C3vbDlWFt2gss3Uhdg==,FR,,1490969878 119081436,119082578,2017-03-31 14:21:02,">>119082161 you're thinking of democracy",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490970062 119081436,119082648,2017-03-31 14:21:39,,,Anonymous,1485115827879.png,b/vTEhTq36Bg+e4asoserQ==,DE,,1490970099 119081436,119082699,2017-03-31 14:22:04,">>119081923 >Murray Rothbard and his disciple HHH >coined Ancapism >any form of government",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490970124 119081436,119082720,2017-03-31 14:22:15,">>119081436 SNEKS",,Anonymous,don-t-tread-on-me-wallpaper-HD1.jpg,ZSNHj0m/ztlQmcVBKzdS7A==,US,,1490970135 119081436,119082757,2017-03-31 14:22:44,">>119082578 Democracy has actually been shown to be a pretty tough nut to crack, actually.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490970164 119081436,119082841,2017-03-31 14:23:24,">>119082578 Libertarianism is marxist ideology that looks to dismantle working capitalist governments and replace them with an inferior system that can be taken over by authoritarian leftism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490970204 119081436,119082902,2017-03-31 14:24:01,">>119081436 Wow? These came back? That's great to see because these threads dissapeared as soon as r/TheDonald made the board a trump safespace",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490970241 119081436,119082981,2017-03-31 14:24:42,">>119082757 Democracy is easy to manipulate though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490970282 119081436,119082998,2017-03-31 14:24:57,">>119082757 As opposed to what? Monarchies ruled for centuries, democracy needs a lot more time to prove itself. >>119082841 >capitalist governments where?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490970297 119081436,119083035,2017-03-31 14:25:17,">>119082841 >Libertarianism is a marxist ideology take your pills you are spewing bullshit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490970317 119081436,119083130,2017-03-31 14:26:11,">>119083035 make it cyanide pills",,Anonymous,8nhz0jaj.jpg,dwYSPeI/lWr+1JOn139xHg==,ES,,1490970371 119081436,119083131,2017-03-31 14:26:12,">>119081809 >violating NAP You violated it by damaging other people's property. >why would I ever agree to your lawsuit or your judge The insurers decide which court it goes to. If they don't work it out they have to go to war. Which is expensive so they'd rather avoid that. If the insurer just decides to not back the lawsuit they'd lose their customers. There won't be war just to dump garbage somewhere. Further there would likely exist a military organization comprised of multiple insurers. If an insurer is willfully protecting those that would breach the NAP without taking them to court, they'd get booted out. Then they're all alone. It's an immense amount of risk just to dump garbage.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490970372 119081436,119083183,2017-03-31 14:26:45,">>119082841 you're confusing libertarianism with left libertarian or libertarian socialism anything choamsky really",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490970405 119081436,119083333,2017-03-31 14:28:10,">>119081436 Fuck the state! Thanks Based baguette man! Remember to sage anti libertarian threads!",,Anonymous,HOPPE_0.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1490970490 119081436,119083460,2017-03-31 14:29:22,">>119083333 Quads of truth, I will thanks for the remainder !",,Saya,,,FR,,1490970562 119081436,119083573,2017-03-31 14:30:17,"How I forgot, what should I add to improve the flag ?",,Saya,,,FR,,1490970617 119081436,119083643,2017-03-31 14:31:02,">>119082998 >Monarchies ruled for centuries Basically extinct now. Looks like democracy won.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490970662 119081436,119083772,2017-03-31 14:32:22,">>119083131 >You violated it by damaging other people's property. Not in my opinion. >The insurers decide which court it goes to. And no matter what they pick, I won't agree to it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490970742 119081436,119083829,2017-03-31 14:32:56,">>119083643 I thought you used actually by mistake twice on the previous post, but now I see you're just iretarded",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490970776 119081436,119083966,2017-03-31 14:34:15,">>119083643 and it's slowing destroying itself as extremists on the both side keep growing",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490970855 119081436,119084057,2017-03-31 14:35:08,">>119083643 >thinking democracies last forever >implying that democracies are actual democracies statists need the helicopter",,Anonymous,xt5l3br3gqax.png,hp3gptXZJZ+MFR99FpDU3Q==,US,,1490970908 119081436,119084188,2017-03-31 14:36:22,">>119083966 >OMG people have different opinions how will civilization survive?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490970982 119081436,119084270,2017-03-31 14:37:07,">>119083573 Some kind of devastating weaponry to let others know not to fuck with this.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1490971027 119081436,119084385,2017-03-31 14:38:03,">>119084270 Nuke ? Should I add road for the kek'z ?",,Saya,,,FR,,1490971083 119081436,119084425,2017-03-31 14:38:29,">>119083772 >I won't agree to it Well that's too bad then. Companies can decide not to go to court today. What happens to them? Why do you think you won't get destroyed?",,Anonymous,Titus forget.png,99O4fn/LIyONa1fQwsfomw==,SI,,1490971109 119081436,119084613,2017-03-31 14:40:03,"Reminder that Libertarianism is a Jewish psyop to control both sides of the debate (the only alternative to Communism is to let Jews practice their usury) and diminish Catholic social teaching Reminder that Libertarianism is in no way compatible with Catholic social teaching which teaches equally against capitalism and socialism, and that usury is a sin Reminder that the founders of Libertarianism were Jewish Reminder that Libertarianism started being pushed by the National Review after it got taken over by Jews Reminder that usury is the source of all the major economic problems and not state interference Reminder that while a collectivized society is undesirable, the type of individualism preached by Libertarianism is meant to break people's ties with their communities and nations and allow them to be enslaved by International Jewry Reminder that Libertarianism is a utopian ideology that is not achievable but would be undesirable even if it was achievable Reminder that Libertarianism is just classical liberalism and republicanism taken to its logical extreme and therefore it is not right wing Reminder that Libertarians associating themselves with the authoritarian statist Pinochet is just a way for them to damage control their failed ideology Reminder that Libertarianism cannot be logically separated from gay marriage, legal drugs, legal prostitution, secularism, open borders, and other degeneracy pushed by Jews Reminder that these are only a few objections but the other common ones (who will build the roads and such) are equally valid Reminder to sage these threads propagated by the same three autistic faggots Reminder Libertarians do not belong on this board",,Anonymous,emichaeljones.jpg,jFxmKviSOZHXlLqp/lSFrg==,US,,1490971203 119081436,119084657,2017-03-31 14:40:33,">>119084188 1)never said democracy means civilization 2)political extremists seeks to destroy democracy by implanting authoritarians measures democracy is playing Russian roulette with nukes",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490971233 119081436,119084738,2017-03-31 14:41:18,">>119084425 >Companies can decide not to go to court today. What happens to them? If the plaintiff has a legitimate grievance then the government steps in and orders the company to comply with the lawsuit. But there is no government in ancapistan. There is no reason why I would EVER agree to your lawsuit. >Why do you think you won't get destroyed? By who? You literally can't do anything without violation NAP. You're completely helpless.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971278 119081436,119084747,2017-03-31 14:41:23,">not using Rothbard for anti-capitalist, anti-hierarchy ends >not reading Proudhon and realising that the best markets have worker ownership of the means of production >not realising Agorism is a left-wing idea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_market_anarchism https://c4ss.org/market-anarchism-faq-2",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490971283 119081436,119084762,2017-03-31 14:41:31,">>119084613 >being this autistic",,Anonymous,Capture.png,i03x3w6RXflrAJxTGwTdpg==,US,,1490971291 119081436,119084844,2017-03-31 14:42:19,">>119084385 an atomic cloud in the backround would be fun and edgy but fun",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490971339 119081436,119084931,2017-03-31 14:43:02,">>119084657 >never said democracy means civilization I never said that either. >political extremists seeks to destroy democracy by implanting authoritarians measures NO! Nobody ever could have foreseen this! Oh wait, they did foresee it which is why we have checks and balances to prevent that from happening.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971382 119081436,119085024,2017-03-31 14:43:43,">>119084738 >without violation NAP You're the one that damaged property. >There is no reason Ancap isn't pacifism. If you break it you pay for the consequences.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490971423 119081436,119085050,2017-03-31 14:43:57,">>119084385 Make an anti-road logo opposite the kek logo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971437 119081436,119085060,2017-03-31 14:44:01,">>119084747 >not reading Proudhon and realising that the best markets have worker ownership of the means of production Proudhon was blown the fuck out by Bastiat and he went full ad-hominem and authority fallacy after their debate",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490971441 119081436,119085062,2017-03-31 14:44:01,">>119084931 >implying checks and balances even work wew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971441 119081436,119085181,2017-03-31 14:45:07,">>119085024 >You're the one that damaged property. You can't prove that. You have no evidence. And even if you did have evidence, who would you even show it to? The non-existent government?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971507 119081436,119085252,2017-03-31 14:45:41,">>119084931 > a piece of paper stops violation of constitution t.never opened a history book",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490971541 119081436,119085333,2017-03-31 14:46:25,">>119085252 He is probably retarded",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971585 119081436,119085402,2017-03-31 14:46:58,">>119085252 >law enforcement doesn't exist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971618 119081436,119085411,2017-03-31 14:47:05,">>119082648 Try not to violate the NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971625 119081436,119085455,2017-03-31 14:47:29,">>119084613 already debunked your bullshit,isn't working",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490971649 119081436,119085504,2017-03-31 14:47:55,">>119085411 Easy",,Anonymous,people-killing-hoppe-an-snake-memes-communists-arent-people-theonlygoodcommunistisadeadcommunist-11062413.png,D1745cW/yuqSGtEHjy1eoA==,DE,,1490971675 119081436,119085556,2017-03-31 14:48:26,">>119085181 >You have no evidence. Then why not go to court? >who would you even show it to The judges and the people investigating. Why would companies start wars without any proof?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490971706 119081436,119085569,2017-03-31 14:48:32,">>119085402 >people who control law enforcement will use it against themselves for respecting X ammendment",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490971712 119081436,119085680,2017-03-31 14:49:31,,,Anonymous,1324345345.jpg,uYfuR04vjhFlpZH89YYJdw==,GB,,1490971771 119081436,119085776,2017-03-31 14:50:24,">>119082902 Goin' hard all day brother",,Anonymous,1490841618173.jpg,AqqJ6ePzqe0bITAhMaxndA==,DE,,1490971824 119081436,119085814,2017-03-31 14:50:45,">>119085556 >Then why not go to court? Because I won't agree to it. As far as I'm concerned, your baseless accusations are not worthy of concern. >The judges and the people investigating. Who is investigating? I certainly never gave any permission for ""investigators"" to go snooping around on MY property. Investigators will be physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971845 119081436,119085860,2017-03-31 14:51:11,">>119081436 The US basically used to be somewhat libertarian. Hell, there weren't even actual police forces in cities til mid to late 1800s I think, and that was response to growing street gangs in cities. You used to actually be free in America way back when.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971871 119081436,119085863,2017-03-31 14:51:12,">2017 >being a libertarian Shiggy Seriously, leftists are such violent apes with no respect for freedom that the only way to vanquish them is to align with neo-Nazis who are also violent apes with no respect for freedom. You wouldn't wanna be called a cuck, would you?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490971872 119081436,119085878,2017-03-31 14:51:24,">>119085181 Implying all forms of libertarianism have no govt, lmfao kys senpai",,Anonymous,IMG_2742.jpg,tR9TWJnLYnbMzS7ZwPVz3A==,US,,1490971884 119081436,119085996,2017-03-31 14:52:35,">>119085814 >Who is investigating? I certainly never gave any permission for ""investigators"" to go snooping around on MY property. Investigators will be physically removed. private detective,also you have no evidence for proving the detective violated your property :^)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490971955 119081436,119086021,2017-03-31 14:52:51,">>119085863 Leftists are a threat to private property and ejecting them from society is legitimate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971971 119081436,119086074,2017-03-31 14:53:15,">>119082841 How is it Marxist? Didn't think seizing the means of production and equally distributing wealth was libertarian at all. Quite the opposite.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490971995 119081436,119086149,2017-03-31 14:53:56,>>119085680,,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU1NTg5Mjc5My5qcGcifQ.t6nnLdG_Ar9hK0CIadRigLF6K7M.jpg,eldX4HxBIWW0NA8MF/7sFw==,DE,,1490972036 119081436,119086218,2017-03-31 14:54:35,">>119085680 >shit people want to steal you is stealing stop reading Proudhon",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490972075 119081436,119086269,2017-03-31 14:55:11,"Can I be a left-Hoppean? Throwing bigots, racists, conservatives and capitalists into gulags to maintain a libertarian socialist order.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490972111 119081436,119086293,2017-03-31 14:55:27,">>119085996 >also you have no evidence for proving the detective violated your property I don't need evidence. His dead body is enough. I had my bodyguards shoot him the moment he started snooping around on MY property without MY permission.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490972127 119081436,119086342,2017-03-31 14:55:53,"Redpill me on privatised law enforcement. How does it work? If someone shot your parents, can you kill them legally or does that violate the NAP? What happens if you get shot?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490972153 119081436,119086391,2017-03-31 14:56:20,">>119085814 Fine so you have smoke pouring out of your factory or you're dumping shit in the river but you dindu nuffin. Yea good luck against the insurers then. And I don't think you realize that your insurers wouldn't like dealing with you either. You'd have to be paying through the nose AND risking getting literally killed.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490972180 119081436,119086523,2017-03-31 14:57:38,">>119086293 > don't need evidence. His dead body is enough yours too if you violated the NAP",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490972258 119081436,119086603,2017-03-31 14:58:19,">>119086342 I feel like a broken record always having to post this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o It needs to be on the pastebin",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490972299 119081436,119086629,2017-03-31 14:58:39,"Oh, hey there anon, how you doing?",,Anonymous,hai.jpg,J9vqe5pJ9QVjxc+xDsCikA==,US,,1490972319 119081436,119086710,2017-03-31 14:59:20,">>119086269 >libertarian socialist order If you kill the rich, who's money do you steal?",,Anonymous,1488061128998.png,QfbZTtK+eeYkoap01Fmiyw==,GB,,1490972360 119081436,119086993,2017-03-31 15:02:07,">>119086710 >not knowing what social anarchism is Read Kropotkin, faggot. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread",,Anonymous,1123234234.jpg,KxwrmSD/JZJpjswBf+lJnQ==,GB,,1490972527 119081436,119087118,2017-03-31 15:03:14,">>119086523 I didn't. I'm the victim of baseless accusations. Sure this crazy farmer guy says that toxic runoff from my factory might have caused his crops to fail, but that's just his nut-ball theory. I already had my people check it out and there is no evidence that any by-products from my facility could have caused that to happen. Of course, I don't need to disclose what those by-products are, though. That's a company secret!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490972594 119081436,119087126,2017-03-31 15:03:18,">>119086603 Saved it to my c/p txt-file.",,Anonymous,eJwNyUEOhCAMAMC_8AAqBYr6G4IEjUoJ1HjY7N935zof9fRLrWoXaWMF2I6RuG96CPdYsi7M5cqxHUMnviGKxLTfucoADMHPSM5Ya4l8WBBw8eQQnXHTZAL9D556Vn6rbrWo7w8H6iLa.S-h22w5AnUEv_q3cLFzGzBp_bUM.png,cd7RxQlQmogMg2uk/jEyKw==,DE,,1490972598 119081436,119087207,2017-03-31 15:04:04,>>119081436,,Anonymous,strasserist flag.gif,t6nN0315PCJ3NsTc14BbqA==,SE,,1490972644 119081436,119087218,2017-03-31 15:04:13,">>119086629 you had a private army why don't make more of it for profit and protecting people live from jewish agressors >after that an alernate timeline was created where Hitler became the equivalent of Solid Snake but with antisemitism and made a cooperation with Ford for creating new tanks and uncle Adolf wrote ""mein Kampf"" but talking more about out-jewing jews instead of fighting so our actual world is a white libertarian utopia",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490972653 119081436,119087265,2017-03-31 15:04:40,">>119087126 it answers like 80% of all the fucking strawmans we get regarding law",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490972680 119081436,119087319,2017-03-31 15:05:10,">>119086391 I've had my people look at it and they're quite certain that my factory is very eco-friendly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490972710 119081436,119087327,2017-03-31 15:05:14,">>119087118 he owns the crops he can legit nukes you retard",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490972714 119081436,119087457,2017-03-31 15:06:32,">>119087327 He can't prove that my factory caused his crops to fail. That's just his nutball theory. He's blaming me for his own failures as a farmer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490972792 119081436,119087483,2017-03-31 15:06:41,">>119087319 people don't all have double digits IQ you know ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490972801 119081436,119087582,2017-03-31 15:07:38,">>119087457 you thrown your toxic shit on his property assume your bullshit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490972858 119081436,119087777,2017-03-31 15:09:29,">>119087582 My people have taken a look at it and assured me that there is no evidence that any toxic runoff was dumped anywhere near his property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490972969 119081436,119087972,2017-03-31 15:11:28,">>119082161 Not if you murder everyone who stands in your way.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490973088 119081436,119088033,2017-03-31 15:11:58,">>119087777 I mean physically speaking not by bullshiting",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490973118 119081436,119088071,2017-03-31 15:12:17,">>119081436 Please take off the kek symbol it looks like some fucking plebbitor did that shit Then I will join",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490973137 119081436,119088169,2017-03-31 15:13:12,libertarians are just as bad as anarchists,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490973192 119081436,119088184,2017-03-31 15:13:21,">>119087777 >quads of truth Seems he really didn't unload a shitton of toxic waste near the farm.",,Anonymous,1490913184058.jpg,DIPClpab/CrLjGN4Z4d97w==,DE,,1490973201 119081436,119088209,2017-03-31 15:13:38,">>119082902 Tbh if they didn't fill the board with wall to wall (kek) coverage of the God Emperor, I'd be fine.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490973218 119081436,119088287,2017-03-31 15:14:20,">>119087777 >My people Not sure why you think you'd survive being a massive asshole. >no evidence that any toxic runoff was dumped anywhere near his property Right and you're willing to risk war over getting investigated. Stupidity like that deserves to get nuked.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490973260 119081436,119088292,2017-03-31 15:14:23,">>119088033 He might have even dumped toxic waste onto his own land just so he could blame me for it. He's had an irrational grudge against me ever since the factory was built!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490973263 119081436,119088321,2017-03-31 15:14:40,"'Anarcho'-Capitalism is impossible. https://c4ss.org/content/4043 http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF",,Anonymous,11243463456.jpg,EsxBCtMOelrgwrUWJjKRgQ==,GB,,1490973280 119081436,119088390,2017-03-31 15:15:13,">>119088169 t. Statist cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490973313 119081436,119088399,2017-03-31 15:15:18,">>119083772 Well fuck you then. It's not subjective, and you've rejected a more peaceful solution. Say hello to the helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490973318 119081436,119088431,2017-03-31 15:15:36,">>119088321 Get removed faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490973336 119081436,119088478,2017-03-31 15:16:03,">>119088390 >dont worry guys, people can regulate themselves lol! >in a truly free society everyone is rational lol!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490973363 119081436,119088682,2017-03-31 15:17:47,">>119084613 >Bastiat >founding fathers >Jewish Removed. If you don't like freedom, I'll take it off your hands, bootlicker.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490973467 119081436,119088729,2017-03-31 15:18:07,(((Anarcho)))(((capitalism))),,Anonymous,IMG_0109.jpg,SaOzzo+uaS/MIu5m9Ov3vw==,US,,1490973487 119081436,119088816,2017-03-31 15:18:54,">>119088321 >states something as if it were fact >builds theory and conclusion based on previous hyperbole this article is amazing. the socialist brain slowly churning as usual.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490973534 119081436,119088849,2017-03-31 15:19:12,">>119088287 >Not sure why you think you'd survive being a massive asshole 1. I haven't done anything wrong. I'm a victim of outrageous and unsubstantiated accusations. 2. My factory employs hundreds of people, who are they going to side with, me or some nut-ball farmer? 3. My private security force will not allow any external investigation as this would likely result in important industrial secrets getting out to our competitors. The details of our processes are trade secrets. Instead, we've opted to launch our own internal investigation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490973552 119081436,119088883,2017-03-31 15:19:34,">>119085060 Sauce? Bestiat is my favourite.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490973574 119081436,119089042,2017-03-31 15:20:55,">>119085411 NAP only applies if both parties believe in life, liberty, and property.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490973655 119081436,119089127,2017-03-31 15:21:38,">>119088849 >My private security force will not allow any external investigation Cool.",,Anonymous,nuke 2.webm,PGJVUf19IKIqTwQdin2Y6A==,SI,,1490973698 119081436,119089152,2017-03-31 15:21:57,">>119088431 >Hoppean neo-feudalists thinking they are anarchists. Your covenants fit Rothbard's definition of a state.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490973717 119081436,119089183,2017-03-31 15:22:19,">>119085860 press F",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490973739 119081436,119089311,2017-03-31 15:23:29,">>119089152 Not if it´s voluntary retard",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490973809 119081436,119089474,2017-03-31 15:24:58,">>119088883 He also famously engaged in a debate, between 1849 and 1850, with Pierre-Joseph Proudhon about the legitimacy of interest.[12] As Robert Leroux argued, Bastiat had the conviction that Proudhon's anti-interest doctrine ""was the complete antithesis of any serious approach"".[13] Proudhon famously lost his temper and declared to Bastiat: ""Your intelligence is asleep, or rather it has never been awake...You are a man for whom logic does not exist...You do not hear anything, you do not understand anything...You are without philosophy, without science, without humanity...Your ability to reason, like your ability to pay attention and make comparisons is zero...Scientifically, Mr. Bastiat, you are a dead man.""[14] Commies can't handle the bantz",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490973898 119081436,119089678,2017-03-31 15:26:52,">>119088682 Plenty of famous libertarians were Jewish though: Milton/David Friedman, Ayn Rand, Ludwig von Mises, Murray Rothbard etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490974012 119081436,119089698,2017-03-31 15:27:08,">>119089311 Unless a country actually has laws to prevent people from leaving, then modern states are voluntary. Nobody is forcing you to stay in France. >>119089127 Wow. You just murdered millions of people because of the irrational claims of one guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490974028 119081436,119089799,2017-03-31 15:28:04,"Why are mainstream Libertarian so cucked? 'Being Libertarian' and /r/Libertarian are both super cucked",,Anonymous,libertarian.jpg,pu1dGybFaH8qMsyGNjKSEw==,IE,,1490974084 119081436,119089826,2017-03-31 15:28:19,">>119086629 Seriously though, how could one man be so based?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490974099 119081436,119089972,2017-03-31 15:29:40,">>119089698 Taxation doesn't make it voluntary",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490974180 119081436,119090026,2017-03-31 15:30:13,">>119089698 >murdered millions of people >can't into memes >irrational claims His property was damaged by exactly the kind of shit you are producing. You're a prime suspect. And now you're saying you dindu nuffin and you're avoiding investigation. You'd get raped. People already don't like corporations and now you're acting like the biggest scumbag ever. You'd get raped.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490974213 119081436,119090127,2017-03-31 15:31:16,">>119089799 Well, it's easy. Basically they want to do whatever the fuck they want but they want no responsibility, thus being ""democratic Libertarians"" that want their """"""freedom"""""" enforced by law and the state. Welfare is just too good.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490974276 119081436,119090386,2017-03-31 15:33:39,">>119089799 /r/libertarian is literally just 'dude weed lmao' combined with the reddit trend of 'look how cool smart and above it all i am politically' mostly weed tho",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490974419 119081436,119090461,2017-03-31 15:34:25,Shameless sponging on friends and relatives … Marx affected a hatred and contempt for the very material resource he was too anxious to cadge and use so recklessly. Marx created an entire philosophy around his own corrupt attitudes toward money.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490974465 119081436,119090608,2017-03-31 15:35:46,">>119089972 Does France have any rules that prevent people from emigrating? >>119090026 >His property was damaged by exactly the kind of shit you are producing. According to him. He has no evidence. >You're a prime suspect. According to who? >And now you're saying you dindu nuffin and you're avoiding investigation. Why should I agree to be investigated over claims that had no rational basis to begin with? My factory uses only extremely safe and environmentally friendly processes. I obviously can't disclose what those are, but I assure you they are quite safe. >now you're acting like the biggest scumbag ever How? I employ hundreds of people. Some wacko peddling deranged conspiracy theories can't change that. >You'd get raped. By who? I already have an extensive private security force and besides that my workers will support me because their jobs depend on it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490974546 119081436,119090791,2017-03-31 15:37:20,">>119090461 marx didn't create shit, he stole ideas from other philosophies and then just tweaked them to apply to materialism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490974640 119081436,119090856,2017-03-31 15:37:57,"Can you rape in self defense in a libertarian society? Libertarian/pol Discord: https://discord.gg/TvUctU9",,Anonymous,AnCap.png,cUAAwat8jfX4Cvj8OAsyWQ==,US,,1490974677 119081436,119090892,2017-03-31 15:38:12,">>119090127 It's more complex than that, they are forced to keep living in our current society therefore the consequences of full freedom simple escape their imagination. >>119090608 Don't worry there won't no evidence for the bomb that blew your factory either.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490974692 119081436,119090952,2017-03-31 15:38:44,">>119090608 Wherever you emigrate people will take your money for shit you don't need if you can find a way to compete with them All nations are a problem",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490974724 119081436,119091024,2017-03-31 15:39:20,">>119090892 >Violating NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490974760 119081436,119091090,2017-03-31 15:39:55,"Feels good meeting other ancaps/libertarians in this statist shithole of a board, guys.",,Anonymous,1465802168942.png,QDM49FmI20xHUquk/7QM+g==,CA,,1490974795 119081436,119091312,2017-03-31 15:41:42,">>119090952 How's that even different from this ""covenant"" concept? If you leave one covenant because you don't like the rules, then obviously you'd have to go to another one. Chances are, none of them would have the exact set of rules you'd prefer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490974902 119081436,119091348,2017-03-31 15:42:03,>>119089152,,Anonymous,ReadAnatomyOfTheState.png,LXYouNq2pQ+vh7o7Yq6Y/A==,US,,1490974923 119081436,119091577,2017-03-31 15:44:09,">>119090608 >He has no evidence. The damaged property. And you're known to produce those exact substances. >According to who? The judges would only get business if their decisions are respected. If you go against ALL of those reputable judges, guess what. People won't fucking trust you. Yea, you're a suspect by logic, evidence and you're acting like scum that people would LOVE to btfo. >Why should I agree to be investigated To not get nuked? >My factory uses only extremely safe and environmentally friendly processes Then prove it dickhead. >Some wacko peddling deranged conspiracy theories Judges used to resolve disputes constantly aren't seen as wackos. They would carry actual respect unlike cunts in Sweden that let rapists get off with parole """"""sentences"""""" or the Chinese where you can pollute like crazy. >an extensive private security force Not enough to go against virtually everybody else.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490975049 119081436,119091667,2017-03-31 15:45:03,">>119091312 name a covenant with a prison",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490975103 119081436,119091879,2017-03-31 15:46:46,RAPTURE WHEN ?,,Anonymous,beyondthesea.jpg,snFGATNhvrPY+oMuq31zxw==,NO,,1490975206 119081436,119091914,2017-03-31 15:47:03,">>119091312 Convenants finance hy themselves Not by racket",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490975223 119081436,119092247,2017-03-31 15:50:07,">>119091312 >Chances are, none of them would have the exact set of rules you'd prefer. I feel like this is misunderstood. If you have free market law, then it's not which you prefer. It is which is most efficient that becomes popular. Bad law becomes unprofitable and good law becomes profitable. Your opinion doesn't matter because it's not your choice to make, it is the market's. It's like saying ""I think bananas are superior to apples. Therefore, bananas ought to be cheaper and widespread"". It doesn't work that way. IF the market decides they are superior then they will become cheaper and widespread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490975407 119081436,119092259,2017-03-31 15:50:11,">>119084747 >the best markets have worker ownership of the means of production Then why don't they exist today? Why the worker prefers a million times to get a wage working for someone instead of working in a cooperative?",,Anonymous,quote murray cooperatives.jpg,AiNOwdl2xEM1almb7MlI3A==,ES,,1490975411 119081436,119092377,2017-03-31 15:51:14,">>119091577 >And you're known to produce those exact substances. All my processes are secret. You don't know what substances I'm using. >The judges would only get business if their decisions are respected. I won't respect any judge that rules against me. >People won't fucking trust you. Me and my business partners don't care about what plebs think about us. >Then prove it dickhead. No. My processes are closely guarded secrets. We will not disclose them to any outside entity. >Judges used to resolve disputes constantly aren't seen as wackos. There is no dispute. The ravings of some irrational farmer are not worth even addressing. >Not enough to go against virtually everybody else. But anon, most in this town people support me. Their jobs depend on it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490975474 119081436,119092619,2017-03-31 15:53:13,">>119082161 Libertarianism is assertive on rights and freedoms. It's not an apathy, we care greatly about these things.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490975593 119081436,119092695,2017-03-31 15:53:56,">>119092377 >But anon, most in this town people support me. Their jobs depend on it. >LARPing as a productive member of society",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1490975636 119081436,119092762,2017-03-31 15:54:32,">>119091914 How do you enforce rules without prison? >>119091914 >Convenants finance hy themselves How? >>119092247 What's the point of a covenant then if it has no power? I thought the entire point was to ""physically remove"" people who you don't like?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490975672 119081436,119093007,2017-03-31 15:56:48,"It may be over-ornate. I'm not satisfied, it's look like a faggot's work.",,Saya,gasdkekflag.png,e5DBfHri2YH6RjUVNgsnQA==,FR,,1490975808 119081436,119093070,2017-03-31 15:57:23,"I like the whole ""You do you as long as it doesn't stop me from doing me and I'll return the favor by letting you do you"". It's so fucking simple and yet soo fucking awesome!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490975843 119081436,119093107,2017-03-31 15:57:40,">>119091024 you /do/ realize that you can violate the nap in an ancap society, right? the nap is naturally enforced, it is not law. that means it is unprofitable to do things which violate the nap, not that you are not allowed. don't expect people not to push your butthole in when you start making enemies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490975860 119081436,119093743,2017-03-31 16:04:14,">>119092377 >You don't know what substances I'm using. So it's just a (((coincidence))) then? People's safety>your bullshit. You'd get investigated. You can also sign an NDA so you can sue the investigators if they give away secrets. >I won't respect any judge that rules against me. Too bad. The people do. >Me and my business partners don't care about what plebs think about us. Digging your hole even deeper. >We will not disclose them to any outside entity. If you're willing to die over your bullshit then more power to you. You just as easily suicide against the state with an attitude like that. >irrational farmer Again. Not irrational. Not even gonna bother anymore. Just repeating myself at this point. >most in this town people support me That's cool. He can just make a contract with a company outside of town if everyone in your town is a dick. That's the good thing about ancap. You don't have to take it from a corrupt monopoly. You just switch insurers.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490976254 119081436,119093808,2017-03-31 16:04:48,">>119092762 >What's the point of a covenant then if it has no power? I'm not saying it has no power, I'm saying you're overthinking your individual power over the market. if you're going against the market then your idea is most likely wrong. communists are wrong, and go against capitalism and the market. they will be exiled accordingly as a natural result",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490976288 119081436,119094199,2017-03-31 16:08:55,">>119093107 >you /do/ realize that you can violate the nap in an ancap society, right? So in other words, you literally can't think of any way to resolve the situation in a satisfying way without violating NAP. You cannot force me to disclose my processes without violating NAP. You cannot investigate my factory without violating NAP. >the nap is naturally enforced My private security team enforces NAP. My factory and the land around it are my property, or my ""covenant"" if you will. Anybody who tries to enter without permission is physically removed. >don't expect people not to push your butthole in Who is going to do this? The farmer? By himself? I'd like to see him try.",,Anonymous,1490504505593.jpg,ruEracrcq37UfH3ipyLDqQ==,US,,1490976535 119081436,119094423,2017-03-31 16:11:16,">>119092762 It's ancapistan Nobody get his cash for granted but for what people demand And nobody,in a market sense,demand being racketed There are no prisons for NAP violators,only deported,executed and slaves",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490976676 119081436,119094426,2017-03-31 16:11:17,">>119089799 >call your movement LIBREtarian >suprised when people want librety to do what you dont like. Why dont the hoppetarians/ rothbardists just call yourself Full-Captilists or Auth-Cap",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490976677 119081436,119094632,2017-03-31 16:13:08,">>119094426 He criticize these people not for doing what He don't like But for not accepting that some people don t like others",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490976788 119081436,119094738,2017-03-31 16:14:16,">>119094199 first of all, I haven't even read your argument. I'm not going to bother reading your arguments until you can stop stawmanning using the nap. NAP is a natural result, not a law. Come up with an argument that isn't hyperbole. Come back when you've read about actual ancap theory instead of strawmanning the nap like everyone else tries to do. It makes you look like an idiot when you don't even understand the fundamentals but are trying to argue against it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490976856 119081436,119094803,2017-03-31 16:15:02,">>119093743 >People's safety>your bullshit. That sounds like collectivism. Don't make me rev up those helicopters. >You'd get investigated. By who? >You can also sign an NDA so you can sue the investigators if they give away secrets. Still too risky. We will not disclose our technology to any outside entity. >The people do. No, they really don't. Nobody cares about 1 crazy farmer dude. >If you're willing to die over your bullshit then more power to you. You can't kill me without violating NAP. I've done nothing wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490976902 119081436,119094983,2017-03-31 16:16:52,">>119094632 why do you guys want to ""physically remove""(which is just newspeak for kill) faggots. How does a consensual agreement to stick your dick in a agreeing persons ass violate the NAP",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490977012 119081436,119095355,2017-03-31 16:20:43,">>119094983 People do whatever they want with their property So they can decide who join their property/convenants (discrimination) And if someone don't mind How someone decide How to use it's property (dude I don't give a fuck you own this company,I am a proud faggot) He is free to use any method (physical removal) for defending it's property",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490977243 119081436,119095980,2017-03-31 16:26:45,">>119095355 so your perfectly fine with the majority liberal cuck population of western europe forming its own convenant called the European Union that will boycott any right wing covenant that trys to form so they starve to death.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490977605 119081436,119096173,2017-03-31 16:28:30,">>119095980 >taxation >convenant Nope,it's statism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490977710 119081436,119096273,2017-03-31 16:29:24,">>119087327 No he cant. Nukes are a violation of the NAP, even when they aren't used, just when they exist. Why? Because they are by definition a collateral damage weapon, that will violate somebody's private property and personhood no matter how you use them. By any reasonable interpretation of the principles of libertarianism they cannot exist in an ancap society. Anyone espousing nukes doesnt understand even basic ancap theory.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490977764 119081436,119096413,2017-03-31 16:30:46,">>119096273 >doesn't understand motherfucking irony",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490977846 119081436,119096433,2017-03-31 16:31:02,">>119096273 you can violate the nap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490977862 119081436,119096565,2017-03-31 16:32:20,">>119087207 Yes. You take my shit and I'll smash your head with a hammer and cut it off with a sword.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490977940 119081436,119096599,2017-03-31 16:32:44,">>119096173 so they just rename taxation to subscription fee and tell anyone in who refuses to move to the """"""""""an""""""""""""cap principality of kekoslavia if they dont want to pay",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490977964 119081436,119096680,2017-03-31 16:33:31,">>119094803 >rev up those helicopters Already said this is the case. Why do you think you'd be more powerful? You have some retarded locals that are willing to support a massive cunt that's going against every reputable judge. Retarded scenario. >No, they really don't Then they're idiots that don't care about their property. Also it's not just the people. The insurance companies have to pay out their customers for damages. Do you think they're just gonna take the hit every time some one decides to be a dick? No. They're gonna stop it because it costs them money and reputation. >You can't kill me without violating NAP. I've done nothing wrong. Except fucking with his property then refusing to cooperate, right? Screaming muh NAP isn't gonna work.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490978011 119081436,119096786,2017-03-31 16:34:33,">>119096599 The ignorance about AnCap is mindboggling. If you're wasting your time in this thread at least waste 30 minutes on this video: https://youtu.be/f82mHHAt6yI?t=6m5s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490978073 119081436,119096856,2017-03-31 16:35:10,">>119096599 They don't own anything,All their money comes from racket,they are thugs and crooks,not businessmen",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490978110 119081436,119096873,2017-03-31 16:35:20,">>119096413 There wasn't a hint of irony in your comment, dont try to back pedal fool. You just dont understand of what you speak. >>119096433 Then you are not being ideologically consistent in which case you might as well just stop larping and stick with the devil you already know, which is government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490978120 119081436,119096988,2017-03-31 16:36:34,">>119096786 b-but my nap b-but my roads b-but my socialist uprising that also falls behind the market b-but my closed borders when all territory is privately owned b-but my private militias because i don't understand polycentrism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490978194 119081436,119097044,2017-03-31 16:37:03,">>119094803 this all started because you said you polluted someones land to the point that he sued you so your impenetrable army is more like a somali ragtag, considering all the good hired guns only work for people that WONT pollute their home in the future, a behavior you already demonstrated that others dont cool beans you just got outcompeted by white people and your custoer base moved to them way of the world, brown man that is now going to deny he is brown",,Anonymous,1488910179131.jpg,vQ1A/B+fqqWOULD80fPvDA==,US,,1490978223 119081436,119097123,2017-03-31 16:37:53,">>119096873 The whole ""ancaps using recreational nukes"" Is a meme fucking autist",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490978273 119081436,119097188,2017-03-31 16:38:35,">>119096873 you do not understand the ideology. nowhere does ancap say you cannot violate the nap. it is simply a concept/principle that describes why people would not violate property rights: it is extremely unprofitable, egregious, and unlikely to occur often",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490978315 119081436,119097283,2017-03-31 16:39:24,">>119096786 Not an Argument",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490978364 119081436,119097436,2017-03-31 16:40:59,">>119097123 A meme which you were using in an argument with another burger, and trying to convince him of something. So you weren't using it like a meme, but as an argument. ""hurr durr I was only pretending to be retarded""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490978459 119081436,119097597,2017-03-31 16:42:36,">>119097436 *serious case of autism.jpg* When you Tell to someone you'll fuck him up are you really raping him retard ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490978556 119081436,119097650,2017-03-31 16:43:02,">>119097436 >being that much of a pussy",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1490978582 119081436,119097740,2017-03-31 16:43:56,">>119096873 >ideologically consistent Ancap calls for private law. It tends towards protection of private property. If the best way to prevent damage is following the NAP. Let's take your nuke example. You need them against states, right? You can't not have them because then your property will get fucked by invading states. So you try to minimize harm and danger to others around you. So you'd probably keep them away from civilization. The NAP isn't some absolute autistic thing. It's the protection of property that matters.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490978636 119081436,119097923,2017-03-31 16:45:50,">>119096680 >Why do you think you'd be more powerful? Because I literally have my own factory. Why wouldn't I be more powerful? >The insurance companies have to pay out their customers for damages. No damages occurred. He's blaming me for his own failures. >Except fucking with his property Never happened. >then refusing to cooperate Damn straight. We will not negotiate with terrorists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490978750 119081436,119097982,2017-03-31 16:46:25,">>119097740 to add to this, the nap will be adhered to because it is profitable. if you are ever in a situation where it is more profitable for people to violate the nap to get rid of you... like say I dunno... BEING A COMMUNIST and trying to seize production... then people will violate the nap with little consequence, or maybe even a net positive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490978785 119081436,119098019,2017-03-31 16:46:47,">>119097597 >if i keep calling him an autist I will prove that I totally knew what I was talking about No, when you tell someone you will do something, you are not actually doing it. I nevetr claimed you nuked him, idiot. You unironically used the example of nuking as something that could happen in an ancap society as a solution to the problem he presented. Then you claimed it was just a meme. Just stop already, you aren't convincing at all. You actually tried to use nuking as an argument for how the problem would be solved. I know ancap mcnukes are a meme, but you werent engaging in memetics, you were having a legitimate argument with someone. This isn't the first time I have seen people legitimately use mcnukes as arguments for or against ancapism. I have every reason to believe you were being serious and are now just trying to backpedal. I remain unconvinced by your reddit-tier excuse of ""it was just a le joke you autist"". Now fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490978807 119081436,119098050,2017-03-31 16:47:13,">>119097188 >nowhere does ancap say you cannot violate the nap What's the point then?",,Anonymous,243.png,7BPnnRbHJzYsnOPwUe9IPQ==,US,,1490978833 119081436,119098286,2017-03-31 16:49:47,">>119097982 >everybody will always follow the NAP, but sometimes they won't and that's okay",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490978987 119081436,119098469,2017-03-31 16:51:46,">>119098050 there is no point, it's a concept",,Anonymous,wtf.jpg,A3zEYH1MyRIIRfmNkdzi0A==,US,,1490979106 119081436,119098533,2017-03-31 16:52:29,">>119097740 No, you cannot use nukes against states. Jesus christ, you don't know what you are talking about. By the way, the following is not necessarily my opinion, but it is how libertarian theory and the NAP applies to ancapism, you just dont know what the fuck you are talking about. If you are actually serious about an ancap society then you believe that states are unjust aggressors, and war is nothing more than a way for innocent citizens to get sucked into the state's war, which they are then forced to support. Normally two states view each other's citizens as extensions of the state, and even civilians are ok to bomb since they are supporting the war effort financially and with their labor, and are therefore also part of the aggression, so ever since ww2 states bomb even each other's civilian population. If you are an ancap then you should not be ok with bombing an aggressing state's civilian population, as you view them as innocents who are being forced into a war by their own state. If you support nuking innocents then you are not a true libertarian, but instead just cherry pick what you like and don't like. Now, I don't care, because I dont really consider myself a hardcore libertarian. But people like you are the reason why libertarianism and ancapism will probably never work, 90% of libertarians and ancaps dont understand their own ideologies and are not consistent in their beliefs, leading to major disagreements in many aspects of their ideologies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490979149 119081436,119098581,2017-03-31 16:52:56,">>119098019 >no fun allowed:the post I can argue with someone and having bantz you dunce",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490979176 119081436,119098736,2017-03-31 16:54:30,">>119098581 Alright, fair enough pal. I dont even want to argue with you anymore. Have a good day.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490979270 119081436,119098839,2017-03-31 16:55:35,">>119097923 >have my own factory Oh wow. Good for you. And you're going against a military alliance of insurers with millions of subscribers. Like I said. Good luck. >Never happened. Shouldn't be hard to prove it then. You keep changing your story to be more and more innocent and making yourself more powerful at the same time. I'm done arguing. You can pretend to be some godlike creature where the people surrounding you worship you despite being a cunt but millions of people will autistically obey muh NAP all you want. >>119098533 >you cannot use nukes against states So you just get nuked like a cuck, then? Nah. Didn't read the rest of your garbage. I'm out. Enough statist strawmen and hyperbole for the day.",,Anonymous,1449708218536.jpg,ZQXGusIZ2C4x6RmN1p2PNQ==,SI,,1490979335 119081436,119098842,2017-03-31 16:55:37,">>119098736 *trigerred.png*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490979337 119081436,119099027,2017-03-31 16:57:26,">>119098469 >Implying that Hong Kong and Singapore aren't the best models for an authoritarian capitalist society >Implying that Switzerland and New Zealand aren't the best models for a liberal capitalist society",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490979446 119081436,119099102,2017-03-31 16:58:11,">>119098839 Fucking idiot, this is why you cant call yourself a libertarian without understanding the intricacies and implications of your claims. Clearly you are not ok with the implications of libertarian theory when it is actually applied consistently, that's fine, just don't pretend to be something you are not. There is no way to justify nukes in a libertarian order. No way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490979491 119081436,119099233,2017-03-31 16:59:34,">>119099027 the fact that you can't even comprehend nap ""What is the point of the nap if you can violate the nap""? ""What is the point of being able to describe roses as the color red""? How insufferably retarded do you have to be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490979574 119081436,119099642,2017-03-31 17:03:29,">>119098839 >And you're going against a military alliance of insurers with millions of subscribers An insurance company? Who's to say that I don't have MY OWN insurance company as well? Hmmm.....didn't think about that did you? >Shouldn't be hard to prove it then. Unfortunately our processes are trade secrets and we can't disclose them to any outside entity. >millions of people will autistically obey muh NAP all you want. If they don't obey the NAP then they will be physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490979809 119081436,119100003,2017-03-31 17:06:41,">>119099642 >An insurance company? Who's to say that I don't have MY OWN insurance company as well? You don´t have a monopoly,and other insurence companies would make profitant réputation for killing a smug cunt on a pike",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490980001 119081436,119100047,2017-03-31 17:07:06,">>119100003 *profit and reputation",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490980026 119081436,119100212,2017-03-31 17:08:47,">>119099642 >MY OWN insurance company You'd get booted out, retard. And no, an insurer wouldn't have millions of subscribers if it actively protects polluting corporations.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1490980127 119081436,119100218,2017-03-31 17:08:49,">>119100003 he literally has the comprehension of a 5 year old, or he's trolling. I don't believe the latter because you'd have to be either extremely smart of equally as dumb to produce his arguments",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490980129 119081436,119101019,2017-03-31 17:16:19,">>119100212 >You'd get booted out, retard For doing what? I've done nothing wrong. I've done nothing but protect my own property. And why would I give money to any ""insurance company"" unless I knew that they were going to side with me in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490980579 119081436,119102171,2017-03-31 17:27:02,,,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1490981222 119081436,119102395,2017-03-31 17:29:17,"So if AnCaps oppose government in general, doesn't that mean that Trump is your enemy?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490981357 119081436,119102878,2017-03-31 17:33:36,">>119102395 Everything that challenges the establishment is a good thing as it's neither possible nor very practical (for several reasons) to abolish the gubmint and anapism in a narrow time frame",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490981616 119081436,119102916,2017-03-31 17:33:49,">>119083643 >what is the UK",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490981629 119081436,119103180,2017-03-31 17:36:08,">>119084613 I've never seen someone pull that much bullshit out of their ass.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,9LbFzkxqniaGS8VTU0gQtw==,US,,1490981768 119081436,119103197,2017-03-31 17:36:18,">>119102878 >it's neither possible nor very practical (for several reasons) to abolish the gubmint and anapism in any time frame Fixed it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490981778 119081436,119103332,2017-03-31 17:37:36,">>119102878 and install ancapism* >>119103197 gtfo",,Anonymous,1490817995643.jpg,tvKv0no9/a6+XBeHyHKi9Q==,DE,,1490981856 119081436,119104378,2017-03-31 17:47:39,">>119103332 What's the difference between AnCapism and Snekism btw?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490982459 119081436,119104801,2017-03-31 17:51:49,">>119089678 Yeah, and most of them actually used their high IQs to pursue a nobler goal. Milton's videos where CMs ask him about muh wage gap are gold.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1490982709 119081436,119105218,2017-03-31 17:55:41,">>119104378 snekism is a meme ideoligy with a few different interpretations my idea is that its a authoritarian form of goverment meant to create and protect an artifical anarcho-capitalist nation. pic related.",,Anonymous,snek (3).jpg,i5gyLIWDIVneA3yXPg+EkA==,US,,1490982941 119081436,119105449,2017-03-31 17:57:57,">>119105218 But how is it anarchic if there is an authoritarian government? Isn't that just free-market fascism?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490983077 119081436,119105627,2017-03-31 17:59:39,">>119105449 hence being a meme ideology, I don't know how they'd fund an authoritarian goverment without coercion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490983179 119081436,119105637,2017-03-31 17:59:44,">Minarchism is a libertarian political philosophy which advocates for the State to exist solely to protect citizens from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud. What's wrong with this?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490983184 119081436,119105830,2017-03-31 18:01:42,">>119104378 >>119105218 >>119105449 It's not the same as ancapism. As far as I see it it's some twisted form of ""minimalist monarchy"" >>119105637 Because every form of government, no matter how small it is, tends to expand. And it can do so only unvoluntarily as it's virtually impossible to always have exactly 100% of the citizens on the gov's side when new laws are passed.",,Anonymous,6f6X8MHvY3ZiWurttXAtvdeg22ILGrxeMuDxAgijv9E.jpg,xKAVfi7Jr23l92kwtwfgAA==,DE,,1490983302 119081436,119106030,2017-03-31 18:03:23,">>119105637 Monopoly Worse Legislative monopoly AKA all these ""minimal actions"" can be changed and go full 1984 Also taxing is pillaging (french expression)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490983403 119081436,119106396,2017-03-31 18:07:02,">>119105830 But reducing the goverment can be a constant goal, just like any ideology it has to perfect itself on the practice, cause paper can take anything.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1490983622 119081436,119106536,2017-03-31 18:08:18,NO STEP ON SNEK,,Anonymous,Post Em.png,hjwnNJOPZo0UyN/5eZahbg==,US,,1490983698 119081436,119106580,2017-03-31 18:08:44,">>119105627 Through voluntary donations perhaps >>119105830 I think it depends on how big the government is at the beginning and how it's funded If it's funded by voluntary donations than it would be against its own interest to be inefficient or expand its power to a large extent because then people would reduce their donations",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490983724 119081436,119106616,2017-03-31 18:09:05,"What is the difference between a Libertarian left and right? I'm: -Nationilsm and culture over race. -Believe open borders on the lower end results in an economic drain, and on the upper end it's a sign of a country's inability to sufficiently educate its citizens -Still, not completely closed borders -An economic equal opportunity (in terms of education, legally, and medically) -Non profit (free) government subsidized monopolies (transit, electric, and water) -complete sovereignty of one's own body, to do to with it and profit from it insofar as it doesn't physically affect any other non-consenting person -a minimum wage that affords people the ability to raise at least half a family without welfare - if a company is unable to do this then it's essentially government subsidized and unfit to employ a citizen Do I fit in here?",,Anonymous,1481516796145.jpg,SC9wKH/KNIJyYxbiBTLV4A==,US,,1490983745 119081436,119106716,2017-03-31 18:10:04,">>119106536 Still in snek territory kek",,Anonymous,Compas 0317.png,WQl7w8ZCOaeWRcSo9EahFw==,DE,,1490983804 119081436,119106767,2017-03-31 18:10:34,">>119106396 Sure reduing the gubmint continually is a goal. That's what I've basically said .. or meant when I was talking about Trump. But as far as I've understood >>119105637 he asked why minarchism is not the ultimate goal",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490983834 119081436,119107005,2017-03-31 18:12:50,">>119105830 >new laws Why would there be new laws if the function of the government is strictly limited to application of of commonly accepted moral principles regarding individual rights? >>119106030 In my scenario we have guns too, specifically for that case. I'm quite ignorant on this, I'm just looking for a form of society that would work best.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490983970 119081436,119107254,2017-03-31 18:15:28,">>119106716 *ssssssssss*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490984128 119081436,119107331,2017-03-31 18:16:17,">>119106536 PLEB L E B",,Anonymous,image.jpg,7pFcOgBKGk6xdHUvSj6r1Q==,FR,,1490984177 119081436,119107550,2017-03-31 18:18:28,">>119107005 Burgers have guns but they still have The patriot act Legislative Monopoly is shooting himself on the foot",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490984308 119081436,119107600,2017-03-31 18:19:02,">>119106616 >-Nationilsm and culture over race. does not align to the metric, ergo irrelevant, but you'd probably get called right-leaning for it anyway >-Believe open borders on the lower end results in an economic drain, and on the upper end it's a sign of a country's inability to sufficiently educate its citizens I believe this statement makes some inscrutable leaps of logic, though I do agree with the notion that fully open borders are a symptom of mental retardation in the cultural zeitgeist. >-Still, not completely closed borders fair enough. vetting, processing, and probationary periods are and should remain a thing. >-An economic equal opportunity (in terms of education, legally, and medically) iffy. Legally, sure. Education and medicine, not so much; you can only assure equality of these via authoritarian means, and the only way to assess them relies on reviewing the outcome, not the opportunity. >-Non profit (free) government subsidized monopolies (transit, electric, and water) Too authoritarian. >-complete sovereignty of one's own body, to do to with it and profit from it insofar as it doesn't physically affect any other non-consenting person Fairly libertarian. >-a minimum wage that affords people the ability to raise at least half a family without welfare - if a company is unable to do this then it's essentially government subsidized and unfit to employ a citizen Gone full retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490984342 119081436,119107736,2017-03-31 18:20:34,">>119107331 THIS BOY RIGHT HERE HAS GONE FULL SNEK.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490984434 119081436,119108716,2017-03-31 18:30:21,">>119107550 Well as far as I'm aware this was either a reactionary bill or a strategic one, depending on how keen you are on conspiracy theories. However it is clearly infringing on social liberties. I guess the argument now becomes >If the states only job is protecting the citizens, how big of a reach are they allowed to have? and I really don't know the answer to that. I am interested however in how an ancap society deals with terrorism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490985021 119081436,119108781,2017-03-31 18:30:55,">>119106580 I can't form a single coherent thought anymore lel it's too late for me. Anyway, since a government is not a private entitiy but one of ""public affairs"" and basically everyone can become part of that, it tends to stabilize and sustain itself - especially in hard times when (most ""normal"") people stop donating or reduce donations massively. It's most likely it'll do that by using massive violence, because no matter if funded through donations or tax, people working for the government (military and police for example or the legal people) will always support it and make sure it'll exist in the future, because it pays them to have shelter and nutrition so to speak. At least I think it'd be along those lines. >>119107005 Even then nothing stops the government to install new laws, because what are strictly individual rights ? Positive rights like ""gay marriage and child adoption"" ? Then you be damn sure it's going to expand as ever new cases of ""individual rights"" will be created to enforce influence. If individual rights concern just property rights and the freedom of association, then, in my opinion, there's no need for the government in first place.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490985055 119081436,119108989,2017-03-31 18:32:51,">>119108781 Why would there be hard times in Ansnekistan? kek",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490985171 119081436,119109576,2017-03-31 18:38:28,">>119108716 No private courts would be making any form of profit by defending violators of others property",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490985508 119081436,119109777,2017-03-31 18:40:17,">>119084613 >the type of individualism preached by Libertarianism is meant to break people's ties with their communities and nations and allow them to be enslaved by International Jewry wew, how can someone be this objectively wrong? If you think you need the state to enforce the family unit/ community it seems you have less faith in those things than most of us",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490985617 119081436,119109951,2017-03-31 18:42:09,">>119108989 The government is likely to ""protect the order"" and when it - or better: the dictator, because that meme involves some form of absolute ruler, unlike minarchism - sees that not being the case - no matter if that's a real situation or just made up or imaginary - for some reason, it's going to take action. Because after all: Make sure the order is kept, right ? A government will not let the market (for that matter) regulate itself It's going to act as soon as the order is in danger somehow.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490985729 119081436,119110305,2017-03-31 18:45:33,">>119107331 m i doing it rite?",,Anonymous,kek.png,j/XzgXQjqOfs6lgvGGpn1w==,US,,1490985933 119081436,119110562,2017-03-31 18:48:27,">>119081436 >kekistan symbol Fuck off. Don't tread on my memes",,Anonymous,1489601493307.jpg,jlYbow+VoT1fIruuLSMpVw==,US,,1490986107 119081436,119110674,2017-03-31 18:49:22,">>119110305 Bro",,Anonymous,image.jpg,rGYLyhrb3RU83STx3GGDlg==,FR,,1490986162 119081436,119110733,2017-03-31 18:50:00,">>119110305 What site is that? I'd like to take their version of the quiz.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490986200 119081436,119110884,2017-03-31 18:51:24,">>119107600 I'm clearly not a full Libertarian then. Government is a byproduct of society and a means for it to keep running efficiently - imo. >Legally, sure. Education and medicine That's funny, because in the US legal equality is on par with education for being a complete mess. The rise of deep learning algorithms will give way to equality in medicine and with the law. Education is trickier - though the internet has the ability to be a big equalizer. Sabastian Thrun started Udacity after making his deep learning Stanford course completely open online. The highest scoring Stanford student was something like the top 30th for the class. Everyone above took the course online. Also, not I said an equal opportunity and not equality. Gifted students shouldn't have to experience a glass ceiling dictated by the public school they went to. >Too authoritarian PG&E for example is a government subsidized monopoloy, without the whetstone of competition to keep it honest. I lived in California when Enron was profiting from frequent blackouts - blackouts caused by them placing a phonecall to PG&E and telling them to cut the power. These government subsidies are the single case in all of the private sector where shareholders (the tax payers) don't see any profit. It should be public, non profit and completely transparent. I also deal with BART (transit) frequent striking. When I'm not dealing with that, I'm packed shoulder to shoulder in the morning commute due to the recent population growth in the area. They refuse to build new trains, meanwhile there is a BART Janitor that pulled $257k last year. Bart is filthy, and that pension will be on the tax payer's dime. >Gone full retard In a capitalist system, it's in the interest of everyone to make as much money as possible. Some are more interested in this than others. There are incompetent CEO's that take home more in a year than a majority of their employees would make in 50 lifetimes. Cont...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490986284 119081436,119110890,2017-03-31 18:51:27,">>119110733 it's made by ancap/libertarians so it's a little weighted towards the southeast, but I'm okay with this spekr.org",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490986287 119081436,119111246,2017-03-31 18:54:44,">>119108781 I would define 'strictly individual rights' as not breaking NAP. No new precedents can be set because you can directly apply the principle that we've agreed on and see if one is right or wrong. I'm not an egalitarian in believing we are equal as humans but I think we should have basic equal rights (very basic) so I'm opposed to a hypothetical scenario where you nuke poor people because you can afford it. >>119109576 That makes sense. But I'm talking about terrorism of the muslim variety. There is no feasible way of preventing that without losing on privacy, right?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490986484 119081436,119111384,2017-03-31 18:55:59,I believe in a road free society.,,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,I71Eo6gzq0qKx5jIHVr5gQ==,US,,1490986559 119081436,119111447,2017-03-31 18:56:30,">>119111246 >There is no feasible way of preventing that without losing on privacy there are some things that are irreconcilable. Property rights and statism are not reconcilable",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490986590 119081436,119112003,2017-03-31 19:02:01,">>119107331 Greetings brother",,Anonymous,chart.png,M+cdAFPpwFOGGFWunLODPQ==,US,,1490986921 119081436,119112172,2017-03-31 19:03:31,">>119111246 Defend yourself and subscribe too insurence who will defend yourself,ultimate scenario go to a muslim-free convenants where they don't have the right to come",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490987011 119081436,119112298,2017-03-31 19:04:41,">>119111246 I wouldn't nuke poor people for the lulz, too lel Yeah as I said, I think in that case it wouldn'tbe necessary to have a government in first place. After all a government has a monopoly on violence and that may turn out really bad at some point. Like I wrote in the first part of my last post. Because it tends to sustain the order, it's like when something bad would happen it would have to ""keep the order"". Even if the mutual agreement was just ""not breaking the NAP"" - and since (state) violence - as in hitting someone or shooting - will spark ""counter-violence"", it'll be just the same as in the ""violent monopoly"" argumentation when people make up scenarios in which corporations coerce a monopoly on the people of a covenant. The state will always expand if the ""order"" is somehow in danger etc.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490987081 119081436,119112409,2017-03-31 19:05:47,">>119081436 Roads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490987147 119081436,119112488,2017-03-31 19:06:32,"Drain The IRS Impeach Koskinen",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490987192 119081436,119112627,2017-03-31 19:07:57,">>119112409 ehrm ehrm ... Cabbage !",,Anonymous,removal34.png,TOcOz9IxGlYKTFvrm2FjjA==,DE,,1490987277 119081436,119112707,2017-03-31 19:08:50,"hoppean anarchocapitalism is retarded, one tyrant is just as bad as the next",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490987330 119081436,119112791,2017-03-31 19:09:33,"The only good societal system is the system in which I am the philosopher king, every other system is shit in one way or another because humans are fucking dogshit.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490987373 119081436,119112846,2017-03-31 19:10:03,">>119112707 after searching high and low, we can confirm there are no arguments to be found in this post",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490987403 119081436,119112895,2017-03-31 19:10:28,">>119112707 >>119112409 >>119111384",,Anonymous,1490841953020.jpg,9pEVOveAIhjaW9l6vcitxQ==,US,,1490987428 119081436,119112943,2017-03-31 19:10:58,"The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. You must be successful, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Racial politics doesn’t have to be the only factor of that. If you can’t achieve these things in your real life, then you are probably wasting your time here. Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet don’t. So work your ass off, every day, to build a good life for yourself. How can you help others when you can’t help yourself? You can make more of a difference in this world by working on your real life, compared to what you can do by funposting here in the echo chamber. Spend your time wisely, and keep your real life priorities in order. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490987458 119081436,119112967,2017-03-31 19:11:10,">>119110890 Took it and got 73 Economic, -83 Cultural for a classification of Libertarian Capitalist, quite a bit different from my Political Compass results. The questions definitely seemed to favor the SE quadrant though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490987470 119081436,119112988,2017-03-31 19:11:25,">>119112943 non-argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490987485 119081436,119113068,2017-03-31 19:12:12,">>119112846 why should I let hoppean anarchos rule over me? I'll shoot you guys dead. Why should I submit to your order? It will invariably be retarded, just like all other people who assume themselves power over strangers. Again, the only good government system is that in which I am philosopher king. The next best thinig is a minarchist state that doesn't involve itself in barely anything.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490987532 119081436,119113157,2017-03-31 19:13:10,">>119112895 LITERAL ROAD-KEKHOLDRY.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490987590 119081436,119113217,2017-03-31 19:13:44,">>119112967 I think when the questions are fair and not loaded they naturally lean towards SE.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490987624 119081436,119113292,2017-03-31 19:14:37,">>119113157 fucking filters, i mean road-cuckholdry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490987677 119081436,119113367,2017-03-31 19:15:19,">>119113068 Take your meds",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490987719 119081436,119113369,2017-03-31 19:15:20,">>119111384 we dont need roads where we're going...",,Anonymous,Matrix.gif,3lPO/oxSw7dHVTqA5jkHkA==,CA,,1490987720 119081436,119113627,2017-03-31 19:17:59,">>119113369 >>119113292 d-did someone way roads?",,Anonymous,52love_road.jpg,6QpDe2QRTjawIglwT6pisA==,US,,1490987879 119081436,119113745,2017-03-31 19:19:13,">>119113367 Kill yourself niggerfaggot.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490987953 119081436,119113830,2017-03-31 19:19:55,">>119113369 >>119113745",,Anonymous,autismroads.png,Lk5OIjOd7+BuWXUvJAMufQ==,US,,1490987995 119081436,119113851,2017-03-31 19:20:10,Still no arguments.,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988010 119081436,119113855,2017-03-31 19:20:12,">>119113068 you can be the philosopher king of your own little domain in ancapworld You might even attract a decent sized population if your ideas appeal to enough people",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490988012 119081436,119113923,2017-03-31 19:20:57,">>119113855 And how do you imagine that would happen if I don't own any land?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988057 119081436,119113969,2017-03-31 19:21:25,">>119113217 That would imply that most people are in the SE corner, which I don't think is the case today. The hard part is coming up with enough unloaded questions to put people accurately where they fall, something that is almost impossible to do in a short internet test. >appropriate captcha",,Anonymous,img.png,JRmVgrMxNNP9nwugQdS4mA==,US,,1490988085 119081436,119114031,2017-03-31 19:21:58,">>119110884 >>119107600 That unchecked greed means that it's the burden of the government (tax payers) to help support hundreds of thousands of a company's employees. It's not the responsibility of the common tax payer to help that CEO cash his $20 million dollar check. The phenomenon where a person can work their whole lives and still be unable to support a family is a new one in post industrial America. There are plenty of companies that can afford to pay all of their employees reasonably. They've earned their stock price. A company propped up on tax payer money (welfare) hasn't earned theirs. They can't afford to pay their employees and they need to adjust their budget accordingly. There's no reason for non-disability welfare to exist. Realistically, the modern system is extremely corrupt. Those with means are able to impose their will with lobbying and PR budgets while those without are sinking deeper and deeper into a state of learned helplessness. It's supposed to be the government's job to work for the people, but instead they're bought out by the few with the money to do so. It's a self perpetuating sickness - unsustainable and done in the name of a quarterly earnings report. That kind of unchecked corruption lead to the financial crisis of '08, and it's the common tax payer that got hoodwinked, fucked over and left with the bill. I'm not advocating many active policies to stop wealth and power from concentrating in the hands of few, I'm just talking about an equal opportunity and a transparent, accountable government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490988118 119081436,119114073,2017-03-31 19:22:24,">>119113923 >being a poorfag",,Anonymous,blickfrog.png,ftkVT1BF1o+YAAE/7ghxDg==,GB,,1490988144 119081436,119114156,2017-03-31 19:23:20,">>119114073 How is submitting to your autistic rules better than submitting to a central government? It isn't.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988200 119081436,119114193,2017-03-31 19:23:41,">>119113851 >Still no arguments. I agree, you have no arguments. Atleast not any good ones",,Anonymous,1490996336985.jpg,Idl7VmYdMqLHEQJ4SPymNA==,US,,1490988221 119081436,119114357,2017-03-31 19:25:20,">>119114193 Wow you sure got me there, retard with zero arguments.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988320 119081436,119114396,2017-03-31 19:25:42,">>119114156 It is Government use coercion Market use voluntarism But you're a special snowflake who consider himself King for bullshit reasons So die in a gutter or become Diogenes 2.0",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490988342 119081436,119114502,2017-03-31 19:26:47,">>119114357 non-argument",,Anonymous,SnappyCoolBrocketdeer.webm,Ut1ghm67xJfhRGfkjzQxwg==,US,,1490988407 119081436,119114526,2017-03-31 19:27:04,">>119114156 the autistic rules of don't steal from or attack strangers? because that's basically all an-cap is",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490988424 119081436,119114534,2017-03-31 19:27:13,"Socialist here Why do you hate us so much?",,Anonymous,1484615812759.png,UEdlE8cVEHbANsqtTL1gUg==,GB,,1490988433 119081436,119114540,2017-03-31 19:27:18,">>119113627 >roads leads to heart with a child running Roads are irrational and childish,knew it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490988438 119081436,119114580,2017-03-31 19:27:36,">>119114396 >Government use coercion >Market use voluntarism How is it voluntary? If I don't submit to your rules I will be forcibly removed unto the property or another autistic ruler, and if I don't submit to his rules I will be forcefully expelled to another autists land. Wow such freedom",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988456 119081436,119114690,2017-03-31 19:28:40,">>119114534 >dude revolution lmao >y so much hate ); Guess what ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490988520 119081436,119114720,2017-03-31 19:29:00,">>119114534 Pubic lice here Why do you hate us so much?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490988540 119081436,119114725,2017-03-31 19:29:03,">>119114526 Have you read any anarchocapitalist literature at all? Because that is absolutely wrong. Hoppe wants to forcefully remove people for doing drugs he doesn't like, just as an example. It's up to the autistic landowner, he could put any kind of retarded rule on me that I'm forced to obey, or be forcefully removed to another even more autistic ruler",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988543 119081436,119114748,2017-03-31 19:29:17,">>119114534 learn basic free market economics and then we'll hate you less",,Anonymous,minimumwage.png,rLCvU33LVtkVZiBlUtDYsw==,US,,1490988557 119081436,119114876,2017-03-31 19:30:30,"New bread >>119114674 >>119114674 >>119114674",,Anonymous,1490841690660.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,DE,,1490988630 119081436,119114892,2017-03-31 19:30:41,">>119114580 consent works in Both ways,not only yours mr the """"""""King""""""""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490988641 119081436,119115004,2017-03-31 19:31:39,">>119114690 What's wrong with revolution? Capitalists waged revolutions and wars to establish and then spread capitalism in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490988699 119081436,119115126,2017-03-31 19:33:03,">>119114725 no it isn't it isn't a violation of the NAP to remove undesirables from your own property if he went to someone else's house and tried to ""remove"" them then I'd have a problem with it, although he'd no doubt be shot if he tried Maybe if you weren't a fucking moron you'd be able to get some land or a small dwelling of your own.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490988783 119081436,119115153,2017-03-31 19:33:21,">>119114892 Are you retarded? I have no freedom, only to submit or leave, exactly like how it is with modern government systems. Are you really that fucking dumb you can't see that?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988801 119081436,119115316,2017-03-31 19:35:07,">>119115126 Are you fucking stupid? How is that different from the government exiling you if you break the law? There is no difference whatsoever, you dumb motherfucker.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988907 119081436,119115332,2017-03-31 19:35:16,">>119108781 The ability for consenting people to get married is a strictly individual right. The ability to for a woman to choose - and change her mind as to whether or not she wants a human in her is an individual right. A baby's right to live is impeded only by its inability to live outside of the mother. These are basic things. A government is supposed to be a coalition of citizens who choose to serve the people as a tool for the nation. The efficiency inherent in that is why there will always be a need for a government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490988916 119081436,119115748,2017-03-31 19:39:19,">>119114031 >There's no reason for non-disability welfare to exist. there is no reason for disability welfare, let 'em die",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490989159 119081436,119117240,2017-03-31 19:52:52,">>119111384 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=874ZbBlO87w",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989972 119081436,119117960,2017-03-31 19:59:44,"What's the most ancap country to live nowadays? >inb4 Somalia >inb4 Syria",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490990384 119081436,119118306,2017-03-31 20:03:02,">>119117960 paraguay",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1490990582 119081436,119118905,2017-03-31 20:09:14,">>119118306 Fuck yeah. Best guay.",,Anonymous,Paraguay2_.jpg,ktNdB3vJ09F/C+3i9++cYA==,CL,,1490990954 119114674,119114674,2017-03-31 19:28:34,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: Regarding Law >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Where Is The Love Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1490988514 119114674,119114721,2017-03-31 19:29:01,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490988541 119114674,119114762,2017-03-31 19:29:24,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490988564 119114674,119114804,2017-03-31 19:29:48,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490988588 119114674,119114900,2017-03-31 19:30:45,">>119114674 It is our time. The Hoppean Trips have shown themselves.",,Anonymous,HoppeTrips.png,4ROOvuFqkxjpUPyJkRnS7Q==,US,,1490988645 119114674,119115008,2017-03-31 19:31:41,>>119114900,,Anonymous,Libertarian-leade-2.jpg,h1BIB7kChxrltDQq8Eo6Mg==,US,,1490988701 119114674,119115022,2017-03-31 19:31:56,">>119114900 check'd oh shit",,Anonymous,1490841742729.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,DE,,1490988716 119114674,119115114,2017-03-31 19:32:54,"Which are the most liberal countries in the world? Which are the most liberal states in USA?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490988774 119114674,119115213,2017-03-31 19:33:58,">>119114674 So in an ancap society, what prevents somebody from getting rich buying up a huge amount of land and starting their own country?",,Anonymous,thinking-face.png,mhv6gLwd3GH0/CivBtm8Dw==,US,,1490988838 119114674,119115241,2017-03-31 19:34:17,">>119114674 anarchocapitalism is fucking retarded, it only replaces the government with autistic land owners, it's just as nonfree",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988857 119114674,119115306,2017-03-31 19:34:56,">>119115213 land is the most expensive and important resource.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490988896 119114674,119115364,2017-03-31 19:35:32,">>119115241 What is free for you blone Diogenes",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490988932 119114674,119115366,2017-03-31 19:35:34,">>119115213 ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490988934 119114674,119115395,2017-03-31 19:35:50,"""We must secure the existence of our private property and a future for free children."" — HHH, 1588",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490988950 119114674,119115404,2017-03-31 19:35:51,">>119115364 Blonde*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490988951 119114674,119115461,2017-03-31 19:36:29,">>119115213 Implying this isn't what countries already are",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490988989 119114674,119115502,2017-03-31 19:36:56,">>119115114 I dont know countries but the states i'd say New Hamshire is considered #1 in liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989016 119114674,119115505,2017-03-31 19:36:58,">>119115213 Who would seek profit coming in a place where you were legally racketed ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490989018 119114674,119115515,2017-03-31 19:37:04,">>119115114 The most free market is probably Singapore or maybe Switzerland. Singapore is pretty authoritarian, though and I don't know about their gun rights, so on average I'd say Switzerland.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490989024 119114674,119115519,2017-03-31 19:37:05,">>119115364 the freest system is me ruling everything like i said, barring that, a minarchist system that rules almost nothing",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989025 119114674,119115654,2017-03-31 19:38:21,">>119115505 Because the racketeering would be lower than the other people having worse racketering. Wow it's almost like in the modern world where people open their businesses in countries/states with lower tax rates. It's almost like there is no perceivable difference at all! WOW!",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989101 119114674,119115666,2017-03-31 19:38:28,">>119115519 no one cares about you though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989108 119114674,119115772,2017-03-31 19:39:34,">>119115666 So why should I care about your non-free anarcho-capitalist fantasy? It's like an autist playing pretend in his basement, your political system is retarded and offers me no benefits over a minarchist system, not even more freedom like you pretend it does.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989174 119114674,119115830,2017-03-31 19:40:02,">>119115519 A minarchy will turn bigger, too, eventually. Hoppe libertarianism is nothing more than splitting up minarchies into more and more small entities until only small communities exist, in which only like minded people come together. Those can rule themselves however they like.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490989202 119114674,119115889,2017-03-31 19:40:33,,,Anonymous,1490914594067.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,BR,,1490989233 119114674,119115908,2017-03-31 19:40:42,">>119115772 too long, didn't read",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989242 119114674,119115956,2017-03-31 19:41:06,">>119115654 In ancapistan there is to taxes,So No it would be costing higher for living in these countries",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490989266 119114674,119116033,2017-03-31 19:41:42,">>119115830 Wow, that sounds almost as fluffy as communism. Again, tell me how submitting to an autist landowner gives me more liberties than submitting to a minarchist government? And explain to me what mechanics are in place to stop a governmetn from forming ""eventually"".",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989302 119114674,119116056,2017-03-31 19:41:59,">>119115908 Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989319 119114674,119116086,2017-03-31 19:42:20,">>119115306 Yeah, but what if Bill Gates or one of his friends wanted his own country? He'd easily be able to buy of shitloads of land somewhere and make his own government. http://www.businessinsider.com/30-richest-people-on-earth-2017-3 It doesn't necessarily have to be Bill Gates, it could be anybody on this list. And it's 100% voluntary. Nobody is forced to live there. Anybody who wants to leave can do so without issue. Would that be a problem under ancap?",,Anonymous,industry-thought-leader-032614.jpg,L5TQNvr7YSwi/Ufu2pB4JQ==,US,,1490989340 119114674,119116159,2017-03-31 19:42:51,">>119115956 >in my fantasy hivemind ancapistan no autistic landowner would ever charge people for running a business on his property this is what you sound like",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989371 119114674,119116188,2017-03-31 19:43:08,">>119115519 Wrong You are my property",,Anonymous,image.jpg,YLWZ6UGpnSOSDCxWyeAZHg==,FR,,1490989388 119114674,119116201,2017-03-31 19:43:14,>>119114674,,Anonymous,don-t-tread-on-me-wallpaper-HD1.jpg,ZSNHj0m/ztlQmcVBKzdS7A==,US,,1490989394 119114674,119116225,2017-03-31 19:43:28,">>119115772 you think thing would be fine in your goverment, meanwhile roads would be banging your wife while you're running the country.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989408 119114674,119116236,2017-03-31 19:43:32,">>119116056 I think you're more likely to do that, being based in sweden",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989412 119114674,119116304,2017-03-31 19:44:10,">>119116188 >ancapifuck reveals himself to be nothing more than an autistic edgelord dreaming of running a neo-feudal slave plantation ok so all the anti-ancap memes are 100% correct",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989450 119114674,119116343,2017-03-31 19:44:37,">>119116236 Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989477 119114674,119116349,2017-03-31 19:44:40,">>119116033 A government WILL form, that'S the whole point, but you are free to seek out a community which offers you what you are looking for. It's a free market of micronations. If somebody doesn't like gays, they look for a community where it is outlawed, why should you be able to tell people who they allow in or not. If you have a minarchy you have to represent the opinion of too many people at once and will fail to make them all happy.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490989480 119114674,119116360,2017-03-31 19:44:47,">>119116086 I presume you're trying to say that with enough land you could create your own country that would be a majority state? I think you're underestimating the value of land in an ancap society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989487 119114674,119116364,2017-03-31 19:44:48,">>119116159 >implying you don't live in a fantasy world with your king bullshit Nice spook projection",,Anonymous,image.jpg,k/n3NftoC5vrtc+6Qhfmqg==,FR,,1490989488 119114674,119116396,2017-03-31 19:45:07,">>119116304 Why are you in this thread if you don't even allow to be convinced?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490989507 119114674,119116405,2017-03-31 19:45:09,">>119116343 non argument",,Anonymous,i_love_rd.jpg,HHapDwAZYImUb2GRHrcXgA==,US,,1490989509 119114674,119116421,2017-03-31 19:45:14,"Drain The IRS Impeach Koskinen",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989514 119114674,119116525,2017-03-31 19:46:13,Is there anything worse than libertarians and ancaps? Good thing they usually smarten up and grow out of it.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490989573 119114674,119116606,2017-03-31 19:47:05,">>119116525 commies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989625 119114674,119116740,2017-03-31 19:48:19,">>119116349 Guess what retard, in a minarchist state you don't have to associate with a single faggot, or do business with a single faggot. >A government WILL form, that'S the whole point, but you are free to seek out a community which offers you what you are looking for. It's a free market of micronations. Kek so it's not really anarchism then, it's just mini-mini-minarchism. Let's use your shitt argument against you. What's to stop these-mini-mini states from growing and becoming bigger and bigger? Just like you said the problem with minarchism is that the state will grow???",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989699 119114674,119116754,2017-03-31 19:48:26,,,Anonymous,15977320_305511759851203_1979784058972656662_n.jpg,2ktHZCZyoy+gfZGYmx2XPw==,BR,,1490989706 119114674,119116775,2017-03-31 19:48:36,">>119116304 Don't you want to be a king faggot ? Act like one instead of crying and projecting Well you're swedish so growing a pair of balls longs a millenia apparantly",,Anonymous,image.jpg,hOUnpwnDAdrANLeIsnSuDQ==,FR,,1490989716 119114674,119116834,2017-03-31 19:49:11,">>119116364 I'm not pretending ilke I will ever be king you fucking pseudo-intellectual retard. You're the one spending time spewing your inane garbage all over this website every fucking day.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989751 119114674,119116869,2017-03-31 19:49:28,">>119116396 I allow it, but see, you have to make a logical argument first.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989768 119114674,119116880,2017-03-31 19:49:35,">>119116360 Okay, a group of rich and powerful people decide to combine all their land and make their own country. It's 100% voluntary. Nobody is forced to live there. Anybody can leave if they want to. But if you do choose to live there, you have to pay taxes and follow whatever laws they come up with. Is that okay?",,Anonymous,Thinking-Man.jpg,d2vE40l7ZSecVPjwf68aRQ==,US,,1490989775 119114674,119116907,2017-03-31 19:49:46,">>119116405 Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989786 119114674,119116970,2017-03-31 19:50:21,">>119116869 Then read ""Democracy: The God That Failed"" by Hans-Hermann Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490989821 119114674,119117000,2017-03-31 19:50:37,">>119116740 >in a minarchist state you don't have to associate with a single faggot, or do business with a single faggot. Instead you become a fonctioneer and you're forced to pay shit you can outcompete but instead you'll be jailed Yeah THAT'S freedom",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490989837 119114674,119117003,2017-03-31 19:50:37,"The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. You must be successful, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Racial politics doesn’t have to be the only factor of that. If you can’t achieve these things in your real life, then you are probably wasting your time here. Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet don’t. So work your ass off, every day, to build a good life for yourself. How can you help others when you can’t help yourself? You can make more of a difference in this world by working on your real life, compared to what you can do by funposting here in the echo chamber. Spend your time wisely, and keep your real life priorities in order. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490989837 119114674,119117030,2017-03-31 19:50:55,">>119116775 >you're swedish >grow a pair of balls you're funny",,Anonymous,2903E86100000578-3094296-Swede_victory_brandishing_a_Swedish_and_gay_rights_flag_come_to_-a-31_1432452366366.jpg,ood0UJ1+i7GrFN+ks3/dow==,US,,1490989855 119114674,119117054,2017-03-31 19:51:09,">>119116970 Have you read it?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490989869 119114674,119117070,2017-03-31 19:51:23,">>119117054 Yes.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490989883 119114674,119117083,2017-03-31 19:51:32,">>119116740 If the states are small enough, such a growth can be resisted, if the minarchy contains the whole nation, however, it would be much harder, since the more people a government represents, the bigger it has to be. And yes, there will be not a permanent chaotic status of non order. If Anarchy is that for you, you can look at the antifaggots. Hoppe libertarian means hierarchy through merit rather through political power.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490989892 119114674,119117129,2017-03-31 19:51:56,">>119115519 >>119115654 >>119115772 >>119116056 >>119116033 >>119116304 >>119116343 >>119116740 >>119116834 >>119116869 >>119116907 >>119117054",,Anonymous,DontBait.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1490989916 119114674,119117174,2017-03-31 19:52:18,">>119116834 So much a meanie ;_; Y So much hate",,Anonymous,image.jpg,cQL1vjmlsp8WkcOm3UkXnQ==,FR,,1490989938 119114674,119117322,2017-03-31 19:53:41,">>119117000 >fonctioneer I had to translate your froggy speech in google translate because you can't speak english. No why the fuck would i become a government official? Do you realize how few of those positions would exist in a minarchist state? Maybe 20? 30? For the whole US federal government. Besides, it would be no different from working for my autist overlord in his cottonfield. >you're forced to pay shit you can outcompete but instead you'll be jailed Yeah, the massive income and corporate tax rate of 0% would really destroy all my hopes and dreams >jailed Who said there would be jails?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990021 119114674,119117403,2017-03-31 19:54:21,">>119117070 What is it about?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990061 119114674,119117429,2017-03-31 19:54:35,">>119116834 >being this rude on /s4s/'s birthday Why do Swedes have to be such a disappointment",,Anonymous,1490304810734s.jpg,e/euFroqz38jqtVfd7Z3mw==,DE,,1490990075 119114674,119117462,2017-03-31 19:54:57,">>119117322 you are defining ancapism right now In minarchism you have taxes and prisons",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490990097 119114674,119117602,2017-03-31 19:56:19,"Not all libertarians are just pedophiles and tax dodgers. ...but most are.",,Anonymous,62456373568.jpg,XhtdRCMw6tHn+j76/QZleQ==,CA,,1490990179 119114674,119117668,2017-03-31 19:56:53,">>119117083 >resisted By who? The ancap hivemind? Sounds kinda like how the ""patriots"" must resist the minarchy from growing in size. No wait it sounds exactly like that. >Hoppe libertarian means hierarchy through merit rather through political power. Bullshit, the power you will have is dependent on your personal wealth and your ability to convince retards around you. You are making the grave mistake of defining real value based on what retards value. By that definition Madden is the best video game ever, according to such ""meritocracy"" miley cyrus is the best musical artist in the world.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990213 119114674,119117698,2017-03-31 19:57:12,Is an cap lawless? Where are the courts?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1490990232 119114674,119117751,2017-03-31 19:57:46,">>119117174 Because I reply to all your challenges but all you're giving me back is inaneposting",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990266 119114674,119117771,2017-03-31 19:58:02,">>119117462 But what prevents somebody from just starting their own country on their own land? If somebody has the land and resources to do that, who is to stop the from pulling it off?",,Anonymous,Thinking-Asian-Man.jpg,Z+vW9NyE92irUpFNc/qcIg==,US,,1490990282 119114674,119117791,2017-03-31 19:58:11,"Okay, I was talking minarchism in the last thread. The argument obviously is 'any form of state will eventually expand' and it is legitimate. What I don't understand is, how would you then prevent an anarchist society into eventually collapsing into authoritarianism? It seems rather natural.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490990291 119114674,119117808,2017-03-31 19:58:20,">>119117429 >/s4s/ wow people actually there",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990300 119114674,119117828,2017-03-31 19:58:33,">>119117698 watch literally first video link on OP's post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490990313 119114674,119117863,2017-03-31 19:58:54,">>119117668 You never went to an economy class right",,Anonymous,image.jpg,fM0NF5qk1X8aOGDzeejAfQ==,FR,,1490990334 119114674,119117928,2017-03-31 19:59:27,">>119117403 There's a lot in it. Hoppe talks about how all forms of governments are doomed to fail, with more emphasis on democracy since it always tends to grow into a bigger form of government and paves way to all sorts of malefic systems, goes on to compare it to monarchies and how they are objectively better (which also, in his opinion, is still a flawed system), elaborates on possible scenarios for privately-owned voluntary micro-nations while elaborating a lot of things around the family unit and secession.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490990367 119114674,119117997,2017-03-31 20:00:08,">>119117462 I'm defining MINARCHISM. Are you that fucking dense that you don't know what minarchism means? And now you wouldnt have to have jails in a minarchist system, there are other forms of punishment, like humilation, indentured servitude, or death. Where is your creativity?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990408 119114674,119118026,2017-03-31 20:00:29,"What's the most ancap country to live nowadays? >inb4 Somalia",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490990429 119114674,119118030,2017-03-31 20:00:32,">>119117997 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490990432 119114674,119118039,2017-03-31 20:00:38,">>119117668 Wealth accumulated in a free market is the only form of power that says anything. Once you gained that wealth, you can buy property and turn it into power over said property. If people agree with you and think what your future community will offer, they join you. Once they don't agree anymore (like if you start to grow your power), they leave and you lose your power, like a employer who loses employees he treated badly.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490990438 119114674,119118043,2017-03-31 20:00:40,">>119117771 NOTHING! Ancap is fluff-fluff like communism",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990440 119114674,119118050,2017-03-31 20:00:44,">>119116349 >>119117791 Oh well fuck me, I didn't read the thread. So why wouldn't covenants form their own minarchist states? Alternatively you can always fuck off from a minarchist state.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490990444 119114674,119118131,2017-03-31 20:01:25,">>119117751 You insult everyone and talk like a Stirner like egoist I don't have to satisfy your demands",,Anonymous,image.jpg,znAYf8wNCzm2/eRqVZu3Xg==,FR,,1490990485 119114674,119118187,2017-03-31 20:01:50,">>119117863 Wow. I take it you own all the miley cyrus cds then as it has been established and proven by the invisible hand to be the best music ever produced.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990510 119114674,119118243,2017-03-31 20:02:22,"post the face of ancap in your country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj_GwgtXcFY",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490990542 119114674,119118307,2017-03-31 20:03:02,">>119118039 Can somebody do ANYTHING they want as long as it is on their own land?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490990582 119114674,119118319,2017-03-31 20:03:09,">>119118187 you actually like miley cyrus?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490990589 119114674,119118325,2017-03-31 20:03:11,">>119117928 How is his system any less doomed to fail? Everything is suceptible to the law of atrophy",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990591 119114674,119118363,2017-03-31 20:03:38,">>119117997 >Are you that fucking dense that you don't know what minarchism means? A limited government who control the courts,the police and the army who en rich though taxation >And now you wouldnt have to have jails in a minarchist system, there are other forms of punishment, like humilation, indentured servitude, or death. Where is your creativity? Edgy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490990618 119114674,119118476,2017-03-31 20:04:47,">>119118039 Guess what fuckface? Kike bankers own about 60% of the worlds gold supply. They will have power over you whether you personally submit to it or not.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990687 119114674,119118551,2017-03-31 20:05:32,">>119118476 has no argument, devolves to natsoc cheers m8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490990732 119114674,119118583,2017-03-31 20:05:51,">>119118307 No, The NAP stands above the rights you have on your property. You are not allowed to kill someone on your property (unless he consents). But you have the right to exclude anybody from your property you want, meaning you can practically ban homosexuality or blacks for example. Also, you can say that people that join are not allowed to indulge in sodomy, if they do, they have to go. If people agree to that and join the community, the rule i law on your property. The thing is, everybody knows beforehand what they are dealing with and are guaranteed to live in a system they can agree with.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490990751 119114674,119118652,2017-03-31 20:06:37,">>119118476 Through FIAT currency yes,we're againts that since it's a state monopoly and can be counterfacted Continue",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490990797 119114674,119118670,2017-03-31 20:06:44,">>119118131 Post-fact rationalization, only cause you lost the argument. Also you sound like a feminist crybaby ""i dont like your tone wauuuhhhhh!"" NOT TO FORGET THE FACT THAT YOU STARTED THROWING SHIT AT ME FIRST IN THE OTHER THREAD. You're the one who started insulting me, fuck off you self-rightous autistic prick.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990804 119114674,119118678,2017-03-31 20:06:49,">>119118476 ""Kike bankers"" have their power because of nepotism and interventionism. Without a political caste they can bribe they have noone that can act in their favor.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490990809 119114674,119118717,2017-03-31 20:07:14,">>119118583 This is confusing. How can you ""exclude"" people without using force to keep them out?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490990834 119114674,119118734,2017-03-31 20:07:27,">>119118319 I've heard ancaps do. It's been proven by their theology to be the best music every produced.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990847 119114674,119118748,2017-03-31 20:07:34,">>119118325 Read the book, it explains a lot of things, it's not terribly long, he's a good writer, it's free to download and a lot of places sell it for less than 10 dollars if you prefer a physical copy. Either way, his ""system"" is more of a suggestion of what could be an ultimately free society without taxation that still has voluntary nations (instead of forced countries).",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490990854 119114674,119118786,2017-03-31 20:08:04,">>119118670 >NOT TO FORGET THE FACT elephants never forget reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490990884 119114674,119118866,2017-03-31 20:08:53,">>119118670 >no u Great counterpoints,with caps locks,you sure convinced me",,Anonymous,image.jpg,5aMhfvkYGqX4zpwbPC0UTA==,FR,,1490990933 119114674,119118878,2017-03-31 20:09:01,">>119118363 >>Are you that fucking dense that you don't know what minarchism means? A limited government who control the courts,the police and the army who enrich though taxation >who enrich though taxation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy8MUnlT9Oo",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990941 119114674,119118908,2017-03-31 20:09:16,">>119118717 People aren't allowed to simply walk on your property. They need a contract with you. And you can deny people you don't want the ability to do that. If they come on your property anyways, they violate the NAP. Always remember, everybody has the right of discrimination. Nobody can force you to take in a certain group of people in your community if you don't want to.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490990956 119114674,119118919,2017-03-31 20:09:22,">>119118717 >How can you ""exclude"" people without using force who said anything about lack of force?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490990962 119114674,119118959,2017-03-31 20:09:49,">>119118551 I'm a minarchist, not a natsoc. American public education really is shit producing dumbfucks with zero reading comprehension like you.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490990989 119114674,119118988,2017-03-31 20:10:04,">>119118734 The consumer's fault If people didn't liked shit they wouldn't buy it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490991004 119114674,119119020,2017-03-31 20:10:23,">>119118908 How do you ""mark"" your territory? What stops people from just wandering onto it accidentally?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490991023 119114674,119119026,2017-03-31 20:10:29,">>119118959 didn't read",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490991029 119114674,119119042,2017-03-31 20:10:36,">>119118583 >You are not allowed to kill someone on your property (unless he consents) kek, i would love to see the pseudo-legal proceedings about such a case in ancap court",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991036 119114674,119119064,2017-03-31 20:10:51,">>119118878 How your gubmint gain money retard ? Through kisses ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490991051 119114674,119119137,2017-03-31 20:11:41,">>119118652 Wow. They own gold bars through fiat? What does that even mean? Lmao",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991101 119114674,119119232,2017-03-31 20:12:38,">>119118678 You idiot, they would still own the majority of the gold even if the whole world became ancap tomorrow. The only way to stop that would be to confiscate their gold. But that breaks the holy and apostolic NAP",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991158 119114674,119119248,2017-03-31 20:12:47,">>119119137 >he doesn't get it that they used fiat againts us So they could get all the gold Shiggydiggy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490991167 119114674,119119271,2017-03-31 20:13:03,">>119119020 Walls, fences, etc. Even if a child accidentely would step onto your property, you wouldn't fucking pull a gun and shoot it. All the AnCap memes assume that there never has been any form of human decency and common sense.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490991183 119114674,119119355,2017-03-31 20:13:55,">>119118866 Underage.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991235 119114674,119119440,2017-03-31 20:14:58,">>119119232 Without government aid they'd lose it pretty fast on the free market. Their skill doesn't lie in making money themselves, it lies in manipulating the government and political forces to their advantage. And the thing is, there will be no AnCapistan over one night, there first needs to be a transitional phase in which a mostly free market rules, in which they'll lose it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490991298 119114674,119119448,2017-03-31 20:15:02,">>119119232 >people are richer than me So I must use violence T.ape",,Anonymous,image.jpg,xDLxaRNQ3e/Ei3pyKebyAQ==,FR,,1490991302 119114674,119119492,2017-03-31 20:15:39,">>119119271 What if a murder happens on your property? Are you required to let police come in and investigate or are you allowed to keep them out?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490991339 119114674,119119495,2017-03-31 20:15:44,">>119118908 What happens if you're kicked off one autistic landowners land, but none of the surrounding land owners will allow you to even pass through their land? What happens then? Would it count as breaking the nap if you despite this walk across their land? Would the first land owner that kicked you off his land break the nap by kicking you into the second autistic land owners land?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991344 119114674,119119579,2017-03-31 20:16:42,">>119119492 what is this, nazi germany?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490991402 119114674,119119622,2017-03-31 20:17:08,">>119118988 So you basically admit you lost the argument, without even realizing it. You really come across as a teenager. It's ok, your brain hasn't fully developed yet, I won't humiliate you any more.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991428 119114674,119119679,2017-03-31 20:17:44,">>119119355 My secret",,Anonymous,image.jpg,EQlYCj9VK5C0fH7yerCvXw==,FR,,1490991464 119114674,119119741,2017-03-31 20:18:18,">>119119492 There is no outside police, you have to create a police force on your property yourself.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490991498 119114674,119119787,2017-03-31 20:18:46,">>119119495 >what is toll?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490991526 119114674,119119865,2017-03-31 20:19:34,">>119119271 Kek. Yes a wholesome and decent culture would just spontanously materialize even though the whole societal system rewards psychopathy and selfishness.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991574 119114674,119119919,2017-03-31 20:20:09,">>119119622 How would I admit that I never said that I would care about some bitch selling shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490991609 119114674,119119921,2017-03-31 20:20:10,">>119114674 >This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. you forgot the fascist fags too. there's too many of them now they almost outnumber us. we need enough helicopters for everyone.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1490991610 119114674,119119925,2017-03-31 20:20:13,">>119119440 >they'd lose 60% of all the gold in the world pretty fast Hahahaahahahaha",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991613 119114674,119119996,2017-03-31 20:21:04,">>119119787 What if none of them wants to take toll? They just flat out refuse to allow you on their property? You can't force them to let you go through a toll, that would violate the holy and apostolic NAP.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991664 119114674,119120018,2017-03-31 20:21:10,">>119119865 >societal system rewards psychopathy and selfishness. >nobody has to tolerate parasites and psychopaths in one's community Really made me think.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490991670 119114674,119120083,2017-03-31 20:21:40,">>119119741 Okay, so if somebody damages my property, can I capture them and prevent them from leaving as punishment for violating NAP?",,Anonymous,thinking_man_PNG11602.png,66EjrgYcdfZZMX56zxbJbQ==,US,,1490991700 119114674,119120132,2017-03-31 20:22:06,">>119120018 >ones community Yeah because everyone is a landowner.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991726 119114674,119120238,2017-03-31 20:23:04,">>119120083 Yes. And if anyone tried to stop you, that would be a violation of the One Holy and Apostolic NAP, which would grant you the right to shoot them in the head.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490991784 119114674,119120411,2017-03-31 20:24:52,">>119120132 No, but most people are part of a community and can find a common consensus >>119120083 I'd rule it individually. If it was a clear agression, though, you'd definetely have the right to retaliate, for example if somebody was to invade your home, but only has broken your window yet, you should be allowed to shoot him to defend yourself. I'd not rule an accident as violation of the NAP, however.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490991892 119114674,119120466,2017-03-31 20:25:29,">>119120238 >punishng wrongdoers is bad",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490991929 119114674,119120504,2017-03-31 20:25:55,">>119120238 Could you fucking stop using the word ""apostolic""? Is it your word of the day or something?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490991955 119114674,119120606,2017-03-31 20:26:55,">>119120411 >No, but most people are part of a community and can find a common consensus Guess what, the average person is absolutely retarded and completely unfit to rule, which is why we are our current predicament in the first place. Are you the same guy who recommends hoppe and his anti-democracy writings? Yet you want to subject yourself to the direct rule of the very same people???",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490992015 119114674,119120676,2017-03-31 20:27:36,">>119120504 >catholicuck getting offended protip the bible doesnt promote ancapishit",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490992056 119114674,119120798,2017-03-31 20:28:57,">>119120606 ell guess what, the average person won't be able to rule, since the meritocratic system only puts people capable enough into this position. If you are able to gather enough wealth to start a community, you deserved it, simple as that. ANd even if somebody who isn't capable somehow managed to get money, if he'd run the community badly or would offer a bad deal, people wouldn't join him and he'd lose the money after all.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490992137 119114674,119120845,2017-03-31 20:29:22,">>119116188 >posting pic of max stirer the man who was friends with Fredrich Engles kys sven",,A Christian Monotheist,,,US,,1490992162 119114674,119120905,2017-03-31 20:29:57,">>119120676 I'm just annoyed by your monotonous way of writing, faggot, I didn't even talk about religion.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1490992197 119114674,119120974,2017-03-31 20:30:41,">>119120845 Marx and Stirner hated eachother Also I was shitposting",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490992241 119114674,119121048,2017-03-31 20:31:26,">>119114674 >libertarian >right",,Anonymous,a03.jpg,bA/J1VnuwT29j0dAImXTGA==,US,,1490992286 119114674,119121321,2017-03-31 20:34:07,">>119120606 Who decides if my use of force is justified or not? If there is not government than can't I do anything I want?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490992447 119114674,119121345,2017-03-31 20:34:23,">>119121048 >everything but my breed of right wing ideology is left-wing this is why fascists and nazis have to take a helicopter ride",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1490992463 119114674,119121384,2017-03-31 20:34:41,">>119120798 top kek, not going over this shit again",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490992481 119114674,119121403,2017-03-31 20:34:48,">>119121048 And here comes the monarchist who thinks monarchism is right wing while using an parliamentary republic term",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490992488 119114674,119121413,2017-03-31 20:34:53,">what if a nation-state excludes someone from their territory and all the other nation-states doesn't allow him in their territory, also fuck having borders and shit.",,Anonymous,16265644_1222922367784351_3074926465814574650_n.jpg,7PfnG6l4qq6bckrF9R0Iuw==,BR,,1490992493 119114674,119121459,2017-03-31 20:35:14,">>119120845 Put your glasses back on.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490992514 119114674,119121523,2017-03-31 20:35:46,">>119120905 Kek your ideology is like a religion",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490992546 119114674,119121533,2017-03-31 20:35:53,>>119121384,,Anonymous,1473016111142.jpg,mW0qfz0ykWuFUkyKQyzKyg==,DE,,1490992553 119114674,119121629,2017-03-31 20:36:48,">>119120676 >>119121523 Since you don't like rational discussion.",,Anonymous,1490967254856.png,dMwmXNiTg6++VAzysssMng==,DE,,1490992608 119114674,119121649,2017-03-31 20:37:00,">>119121321 The gold hoarding warlords will form unstable but somewhat enforced voluntary contracts with each other establishing a law of sorts.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490992620 119114674,119121789,2017-03-31 20:38:34,">>119121413 >strawman Kek, i advocate way stronger border policy than ancuckistanis. To answer the argument, I think the ""refugees"" should be fitted with parachutes and then forcibly thrown out of planes all over the middle east, including Israel.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490992714 119114674,119121879,2017-03-31 20:39:18,">>119121629 Since you cannot handle rational discussion.",,Anonymous,1489889201826.jpg,auR+oQ+teS2EK2OEdqfqbw==,SE,,1490992758 119114674,119121900,2017-03-31 20:39:29,"Trump will stop commercial exchanged with Germany(and Europe , Asia). Another reason to hated Trump. He will stop commercial exchanged with Canada too next week and many more country.",,Anonymous,EVILBADPEOPLE.jpg,8U22z61ZuWSrm9a1+rhF/w==,CA,,1490992769 119114674,119122141,2017-03-31 20:41:57,"Anyone else on the lookout for the new healthcare bill? I've heard the HFC is targeting employer healthcare subsidies and expanding HSAs. The Freedom Caucus is truly based.",,Anonymous,authoritarian-left-right-libertarian-agora-o-political-compass-falando-sobre-12023018.png,B/KgpUem8pxMDDtlNsPRHw==,US,,1490992917 119114674,119122742,2017-03-31 20:47:47,">>119121789 Where is your coherence? You think property owner shouldn't be allowed to exclude other people from their properties, but think nation-states have a right to forcibly throw unwanted people into other countries, kinda like middle-east countries are doing right now with Europe. Seems like an obvious logical contradiction.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490993267 119114674,119122851,2017-03-31 20:48:57,">>119121048 We libertarians believe in aristocracy and reaction through natural order, not monarchical systems.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490993337 119114674,119122973,2017-03-31 20:50:08,">>119122742 I honestly don't see the difference. Either exclusion is okay or it isn't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490993408 119114674,119122985,2017-03-31 20:50:19,">>119122742 >You think property owner shouldn't be allowed to exclude other people from their properties, How did you get this from what I wrote? I was asking what would happen in ancapistan in this theoretical scenario, how would it be solved, because I can't see an obvious answer so I thought I'd ask the experts but no real replies. I absolutely think you should be able to throw people off your property, onto the public road or public land :^)",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490993419 119114674,119123151,2017-03-31 20:52:03,">>119116188 Begone, neo-hegelian swine. Intuitions are the basis of moral perception.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490993523 119114674,119123240,2017-03-31 20:52:55,">>119114674 Why do lolbertarians think they are right wing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490993575 119114674,119123365,2017-03-31 20:54:12,">>119114674 I'm sorry. But this whole thing just doesn't seem very practical. Government is a natural part of human psychology. Anywhere that a power vacuum occurs, people will fight over who gets to fill the vacuum. At least with democracy you get some say in who does the filling.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490993652 119114674,119123380,2017-03-31 20:54:21,">>119116188 Begone, neo-hegelian filth; Ethical intuitionism will reign supreme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490993661 119114674,119123388,2017-03-31 20:54:27,">>119123151 why delete",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490993667 119114674,119123464,2017-03-31 20:55:10,">>119123380 Oh. What does neo-hegelian mean, please explain.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490993710 119114674,119123516,2017-03-31 20:55:51,">>119123388 Edit.",,Anonymous,d89.jpg,ci10W8Ugr8Cq8EFrITKfsA==,US,,1490993751 119114674,119123788,2017-03-31 20:58:37,">>119123464 Stirner was as Marx someone who reinterpreted Hegel's philosophy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490993917 119114674,119124093,2017-03-31 21:01:35,">>119123464 Hegelianism is based off of GWH Hegel, which directly attacks ethical intuitionism, and promotes teleological historicism. Intuitionism holds that there are morally objective truths that may be perceived directly through our sense of moral intuition. While intuitions can certainly be wrong, it is better to accept them unless overridden by a countervailing intuition (i.e. Pheonomenal Conservatism).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490994095 119114674,119124120,2017-03-31 21:01:50,">>119115889 what if someone in an ancap country invites muslims onto his property to live there?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490994110 119114674,119124265,2017-03-31 21:03:19,">>119124120 His problem",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490994199 119114674,119124348,2017-03-31 21:04:07,">>119115213 nothing, unless you put a proviso on property acquisition, and have enough common land.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490994247 119114674,119124468,2017-03-31 21:05:28,">>119124348 Then ancap is inherently unsustainable. People will just band together and form new countries.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490994328 119114674,119124503,2017-03-31 21:05:55,">>119124265 but now you have muslims that migrated to your country. this is what we're trying to prevent from happening. i don't care if they don't come on my property, i don't want muslims anywhere in my country.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1490994355 119114674,119124794,2017-03-31 21:09:00,">>119124468 Even if that's true, those political units would be grounded in just principles, rather than arbitrary political authority. And people would have the ability to break apart if they chose.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490994540 119114674,119124844,2017-03-31 21:09:26,">>119123240 why do NatSocs think that?",,ultra noob lvl 0,,,DE,,1490994566 119114674,119125081,2017-03-31 21:11:40,">>119124844 They are virtue signaling themselves. The reality is that guild socialism is not right wing, only economic aristocracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490994700 119114674,119125110,2017-03-31 21:11:54,">Enter libertarian thread >Debate anarchocapitalism Fucking stop",,Anonymous,1490745586786.png,77rPJ19z1dQi5LSuR6PkIA==,CR,,1490994714 119114674,119125129,2017-03-31 21:12:09,">>119118026 Switzerland, Estonia, Singapore...",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490994729 119114674,119125665,2017-03-31 21:17:12,">>119124503 I know,and it will end into a shitstorm I think that before the transition we should first remove shitskins filth,but the people I really care are my friends,family and sympathic french who still have a brain,the rest I don't give a shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1490995032 119114674,119125789,2017-03-31 21:18:22,">>119125110 Why?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490995102 119114674,119125960,2017-03-31 21:20:05,">>119124503 I think the main problem with the European migrant crisis is the huge welfare magnet they've set up. Get rid of that magnet, and you'll have much less of a problem on your hands.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490995205 119114674,119125989,2017-03-31 21:20:23,">>119120676 Matthew 22:17-21, the Pharisees asked Jesus a question: ""Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?"" But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, ""You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax."" They brought Him a denarius, and He asked them, ""Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?"" ""Caesar's,"" they replied. Then He said to them, ""Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."" In full agreement, the Apostle Paul taught, ""This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor"" (Romans 13:6-7).",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490995223 119114674,119126808,2017-03-31 21:28:52,">>119120676 http://www.catholicity.com/commentary/woods/00330.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490995732 119114674,119127760,2017-03-31 21:38:55,">>119125989 >>119126808 top kek yeah lets just ignore half of the old testament Jeeesus: >For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490996335 119114674,119127917,2017-03-31 21:40:28,">>119127760 The bible is the book with most plotholes on the planet, either way you're wrong because this paragraph talks about the law of god, not the law of men",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490996428 119114674,119128127,2017-03-31 21:42:40,">>119114674 Yeah! Fuck the government! Let's replace our representative democracy and replace it with an unaccountable private-owned corporate state. Electing politicians? Bah! Let our CEOs and company shareholders dictate what happens in our society instead.",,Anonymous,Peasants-for-Plutocracy-by-Michael-Dal-Cerro505x379.jpg,vL8HiD7/JkjLYvdKKcl0Fw==,US,,1490996560 119114674,119128232,2017-03-31 21:43:52,">>119127917 lol you ancapicucks are truly a thinig to see so uneducated, but so full of themselves at the same time very funny hahahaha",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490996632 119114674,119128640,2017-03-31 21:47:49,">Same (((German))) making thread after thread, day after day. Do you have a life mate? Go get some fresh air.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490996869 119114674,119128671,2017-03-31 21:48:08,">>119115213 No people to rule",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490996888 119114674,119128797,2017-03-31 21:49:25,">>119128671 If the country was good enough people would move there voluntarily.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490996965 119114674,119128840,2017-03-31 21:49:47,">>119128232 No argument And no proof whatsoever that i'm an anarchocapitalist myself, i just showed you where you were wrong But it doesn't matter anyway, i know you're baiting so you can feel special when you get replies, here's your (You)",,Anonymous,17426087_1224138634371256_5128353378376614824_n.jpg,2JnbTi2Bjx0xi0lY0cHqOQ==,BR,,1490996987 119114674,119129201,2017-03-31 21:53:26,">>119120083 They're no longer a threat to you, so they shouldn't be detained without trial. >not an AnCap, just a libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490997206 119114674,119129209,2017-03-31 21:53:31,"hey everyone, would ya'll buy gadsden flag hats or t-shirts? i wanna make some custom ones but designers require me to make multiple so i might sell some here",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1490997211 119114674,119129281,2017-03-31 21:54:15,">>119128840 You are retarded, making up distinctions that aren't there. Only an uneducated retard and an unsaved person would say that bible is full of contradictions.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490997255 119114674,119129394,2017-03-31 21:55:28,">>119129201 Yeah, but they're on my property. It's my choice what I do with them right? >Reads further Oh wait, you're not a retard, move along. Sorry for the confusion.",,Anonymous,1.jpg,VwFAcj0cS8e3sCS5Ai+j5w==,US,,1490997328 119114674,119129485,2017-03-31 21:56:24,">>119129209 There's already a huge market for them m8. Already have stickers on my car and gun safe. However a /pol/ specific shirt or sticker maybe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490997384 119114674,119129715,2017-03-31 21:58:48,">>119128797 Then the people have consented to living in that state and accept any limitations thereof. I think AnCap is stupid, im more of a minarchist sort of guy myself, desu.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490997528 119114674,119130190,2017-03-31 22:03:48,">>119129394 Alright, cheers m8. However if you'd want to discuss any other libertarian stances I'd be interested in that.",,Anonymous,Me labeled comp.png,KdsGRKPxZAEoTuvYQVUXAQ==,US,,1490997828 119114674,119130862,2017-03-31 22:10:14,">>119114674 Kiked dipshits.",,Anonymous,JewLolbertarians.jpg,Atxnk7g744CwcWdTKQxTig==,US,,1490998214 119114674,119131900,2017-03-31 22:20:37,Who else /cantwell/ here? https://youtu.be/dSYpGbozMko,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1490998837 119114674,119131943,2017-03-31 22:21:01,">>119130862 So what do you suppose we do? Start goosestepping in the streets? Instead of compromising on a few positions we should just represent a dead and notoriously hated ideology like Nazism. That will win the people over",,Anonymous,skinfags.jpg,/bdkika8tJp2XWnGCvRrIw==,US,,1490998861 119114674,119132334,2017-03-31 22:24:43,">>119131900 My favorite clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZbrG0tWXWs Cantwell is great.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490999083 119114674,119132673,2017-03-31 22:28:00,">>119130190 >he actually posted his horoscope on 4chan",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1490999280 119114674,119132693,2017-03-31 22:28:09,This is a VERY important clip for all of you to see,,Anonymous,,,US,,1490999289 119114674,119132811,2017-03-31 22:29:22,">>119132693 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_TNjzy62Ro&index=87&list=PLmzSnh6rTNwD5X_a_rrKB8Q0D1pts1C8D",,Anonymous,,,US,,1490999362 119114674,119132996,2017-03-31 22:31:30,sh's violating my NAP >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,,Anonymous,5.jpg,zeOIqrEmmFBMK10sj1aXpg==,HR,,1490999490 119114674,119134032,2017-03-31 22:41:58,">>119125110 >>119125789 because he's a reason magazine-reading kike shill that can't stand rothbard. kys, kochsucker.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491000118 119114674,119135690,2017-03-31 22:59:22,/pol/ has a real good opportunity here to use anarcho-capitalism/right-libertarian to represent a opposition force against Socialists and Marxists as well as Antifa.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491001162 119114674,119135742,2017-03-31 23:00:06,">>119129209 I want a gold and black shirt that is essentially the meme ball but cut diagonally, like from top of the shoulder to the opposite rib/hip",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491001206 119114674,119136390,2017-03-31 23:07:17,,,Anonymous,flag.png,IOLB22uPuK8Fz6Ctq68Nrw==,BR,,1491001637 119114674,119136493,2017-03-31 23:08:25,,,Anonymous,3619.jpg,LuvhkgEh4GopG9K1HAz6cA==,CA,,1491001705 119114674,119136576,2017-03-31 23:09:15,">>119131900 Listen to today's show ep 283. He debates an open border ""libertarian"" good shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491001755 119114674,119136723,2017-03-31 23:11:10,>>119136493,,Anonymous,ching leaf.png,i7FKpFe3422AyJst6oQdhA==,BR,,1491001870 119114674,119136915,2017-03-31 23:13:24,">>119136493 [[[PHYSICALLY FUCKING REMOVED]]]",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491002004 119114674,119137038,2017-03-31 23:14:47,">all communists should be killed wow so much freedom, much freedom of expression, such freedom of speech",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491002087 119114674,119137134,2017-03-31 23:15:55,">>119131943 >>119135690 So instead of looking for allies you people want to have a board war with us NatSocs? I think you are barking up a tree you don't want to climb. This division will do no good, it's better to have a coalition like they did during the Spanish civil war but that's my opinion if you want to step on our toes then be my guest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_CCkyCyDcU",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491002155 119114674,119137280,2017-03-31 23:17:41,">>119137038 >Flag",,Anonymous,1488326369572.png,WIAlqr9bDZTqO34XjG2MCA==,BR,,1491002261 119114674,119138032,2017-03-31 23:26:00,">>119137134 >trying to ally with AynCraps There's a faction that doesn't instantly reject solidarity and collectivism, and it ain't the lolberts. It's just a shame yours is tainted by racial and nationalist spooks.",,Anonymous,1344290461121.jpg,4/IJbxWPMI0PPUH95dOjMQ==,CA,,1491002760 119114674,119138041,2017-03-31 23:26:04,">>119137280 wow it's almost like those two ideologies are almost the same",,Anonymous,anarchocapitalism.png,1fnxUulXyFHAM5Vot3BPMA==,SE,,1491002764 119114674,119138059,2017-03-31 23:26:16,">>119137134 For purposes of actual IRL activism it would probably be best for natsocs to adopt a new image to avoid being written off as lunatics and grouped in with ""skinheads"" by the general public. Thats why i think this may be a good opportunity to represent our objectives under a new banner. Nobody is ever going to take national socialism seriously.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491002776 119114674,119138233,2017-03-31 23:28:23,">>119138041 you are still squatting here how autistic are you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491002903 119114674,119138318,2017-03-31 23:29:09,">>119138233 same same",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491002949 119114674,119138340,2017-03-31 23:29:33,">>119138233 try to forcefully remove me you fucking faggot",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491002973 119114674,119139135,2017-03-31 23:38:11,">>119138041 >>119138318 >>119138340",,Anonymous,the swede.jpg,28OHjdU8zuYXTa2oCoHJmw==,BR,,1491003491 119114674,119139313,2017-03-31 23:39:59,">>119115213 Customer service would have to be pretty top notch",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491003599 119114674,119139395,2017-03-31 23:40:48,">>119139135 I love the united states, the constitution, the declaration of independence. That is the ideology I adhere to, it's the political system I prefer. You're the one promoting some retarded kike rothbard system that's inherently self-contradictory.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491003648 119114674,119139492,2017-03-31 23:41:54,">>119138059 >>119138059 >For purposes of actual IRL activism it would probably be best for natsocs to adopt a new image to avoid being written off as lunatics and grouped in with ""skinheads"" by the general public. Thats why i think this may be a good opportunity to represent our objectives under a new banner. Nobody is ever going to take national socialism seriously. Yes and you ancaps are so appealing. We have been pumping the content out and fending off the hoards on this board our boots are the ground throughout the West. You are in for a rude awakening little man. You use Jewish talking points to make your arguments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Scv1Styzc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kg5ioRa850 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEaEsmMapHc",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491003714 119114674,119139496,2017-03-31 23:41:58,">>119138041 Why would you kill your customer base?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491003718 119114674,119139696,2017-03-31 23:44:06,">>119139496 im not the anarchocapitalist, im not the one advocating it",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491003846 119114674,119141391,2017-04-01 00:01:57,">>119114674 wait a second.... w..WAIT A GOD DAMN SECOND HOW THE FLYING GOD DAMNED FUCKING HELL IN THIS SINFUL AND WRONGED EARTH CAN WE REMOVE OUR GOVERNMENTS WHEN WE HAVE CREATED DEVICES OF SCIENCE THAT HARNESS THE POWER OF GOD, NO SERIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND HOPEFULS AND DREAMS WISHING FOR A WORLD WERE THE GOVERNMENT NO LONGER EXISTS TO ""OPPRESS"" US, BUT WE HAVE RUINED OUR SOIL, SALTED OUR FUTURE AND WE MUST REAP WHAT WE HAVE SOWN. OUR GOVERNMENT HOLDS IN THEIR HANDS THANKFULLY WELL GUARDED AND WELL PROTECTED, ALONG WITH HARD TO ACTIVATE DESTROYERS OF THE WORLD, I'M TALKING ABOUT GOD DAMN NUCLEAR WEAPONS! HOW THE FUCK CAN WE REMOVE ALL FORMS OF GOVERNMENT WHEN THESE TITANS STILL SLEEP IN THEIR BEDS? I NOW FEAR THE DAY YOU SUCCEED IN YOUR WISHES ANON, I FEAR IT LIKE I FEAR THE DARKNESS OF EMPTINESS.",,Anonymous,340423_North-Korea-soldiers.jpg,o8IQUjVjPKrWJW0zxpRn5A==,US,,1491004917 119114674,119142049,2017-04-01 00:08:37,">>119141391 I mean think about it, what is stopping some maniac like a kim jong un from secretly creating a nuclear weapon, then holding the world at gun point basically, are you expecting every company and town to build it's own deterrence like this is metal gear solid? A man in africa can walk into a village with two tanks and take over, imagine what he could do with a nuclear weapon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491005317 119114674,119142347,2017-04-01 00:11:43,">>119114674 Don't worry we'll fix the time lapse",,Anonymous,images-15.jpg,dkZ7jd5p0AioiNZ/hWyzrQ==,US,,1491005503 119114674,119143214,2017-04-01 00:20:42,">>119141391 Whats stopping someone from >Like many of the insane and insanely rich, want to have all the power >Start up a company called Helios energy and research >Secretly research and produce nuclear arms under threat of assassination and general hush hush attitude >Go full on bane and take over the country using tactics that many dictators have used before, and since there is no standing government, there is no force large enough to stop me >Ayy La Mao my way into power like china for a few decades Now what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491006042 119114674,119144975,2017-04-01 00:38:01,,,Anonymous,d0a517afbd5ae6ee0728f8174c1cbe2c41b499cf5cfde0de475eab431b8dee42_1.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,BR,,1491007081 119114674,119145576,2017-04-01 00:44:57,National Capitalist reporting for duty!,,Anonymous,1489746409389.jpg,gfYDVGzWkaILXGUXDQcyJA==,US,,1491007497 119114674,119145770,2017-04-01 00:47:08,">>119145576 how do nationalist capitalists account and guard against institutional manifestations like the military industrial complex? i ask because its the root of our problems and manifests its self through government corruption",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491007628 119114674,119146118,2017-04-01 00:50:59,">>119141391 Any one individual owning a nuclear weapon constitutes proof you intend to kill a lot of people because you can't make the claim that you own a nuclear weapon for personal defense. The Ancap military would probably have nukes though. I don't know how it would work exactly, it's the one area of their ideas I haven't begun to study. It would likely consist of mutual defense contracts between the various city-states.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491007859 119114674,119146453,2017-04-01 00:55:13,Praise Kek,,Anonymous,1488125781438.png,NHZlurCM1iiAzI+5pkZEAA==,BR,,1491008113 119114674,119146607,2017-04-01 00:57:18,">>119114674 Where Is The Love? Here! /po/ is a board of peace.",,Anonymous,1490740270129.jpg,2u2xIEa/1nGcFT0IM/3ErA==,BR,,1491008238 119114674,119147141,2017-04-01 01:03:32,">>119146607 I hate this degenerate meme template so fucking much. Get this shit out of my face.",,Anonymous,mila_kunis.jpg,bUD/jPK2J3wxNOI1NxbVOA==,CA,,1491008612 119114674,119147297,2017-04-01 01:05:08,">>119147141 >A FUCKING LEAF >hate degenerate",,Anonymous,1490740270087.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,BR,,1491008708 119114674,119148317,2017-04-01 01:15:57,Wew the NEETSOCS are in full force today.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491009357 119114674,119148643,2017-04-01 01:19:49,">>119145770 Less government power in the first place. Basically neutering government power and giving more individual freedom to the people. Also to convince more defensive war instead of offensive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491009589 119114674,119150823,2017-04-01 01:46:45,">>119114674 This is a now a Commisar Dat Boi thread. Dank dialectics and spicy socialism will come to you, but only if you comment ""Oh shit! rise up""",,Anonymous,tumblr_o74v64FFg31tedi6xo1_500.png,cWckUOB2oKNpdNughsvhzA==,US,,1491011205 119161740,119161740,2017-04-01 04:57:58,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: Regarding Law >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ [Embed] h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs [Embed] Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A [Embed] Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed] Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU [Embed] I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A [Embed] Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc [Embed] Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - United Against Degeneracy Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1491022678 119161740,119161780,2017-04-01 04:58:39,,,Anonymous,1490713184063.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,DE,,1491022719 119161740,119161796,2017-04-01 04:59:04,">>119161740 Bump for physical removal",,Anonymous,snek.gif,En4w89ZgogsndLKV/ufc1g==,NL,,1491022744 119161740,119161818,2017-04-01 04:59:22,,,Anonymous,1490914594067.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,DE,,1491022762 119161740,119161878,2017-04-01 05:00:26,Libertanrianism is an invitation to be taken over by an an organized authoritarian body.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491022826 119161740,119161920,2017-04-01 05:01:13,,,Anonymous,1490567525137.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,DE,,1491022873 119161740,119161983,2017-04-01 05:02:16,">>119161878 Nah",,Anonymous,1490567655144.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,DE,,1491022936 119161740,119162129,2017-04-01 05:04:50,>>119161796,,Anonymous,WRnwkjH.png,ZfJcX4mU0AHNq159p5GoFg==,DE,,1491023090 119161740,119162664,2017-04-01 05:13:53,bumpy bump bump bitch,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491023633 119161740,119162857,2017-04-01 05:17:10,">>119161983 Ja. Without an organized government, you're going to be taken over by warlords. Libertarianism is the middle east of politics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491023830 119161740,119162968,2017-04-01 05:18:53,"Daily reminder that Hoppean libertarianism ain't 420 blaze it faggotry or johnson tpye ""Libertarianism"".",,Anonymous,1490567419484.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,DE,,1491023933 119161740,119163311,2017-04-01 05:24:13,">>119161740 Reporting in for Mi General. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM Was just about to post a general but kept hitting the wrong button, kek. Phoneposting worst posting. Anyway, how you goys doing?",,Anonymous,pinochet pepe.jpg,ZLm4d/PhB9KpFcrNhhMSjw==,SK,,1491024253 119161740,119163421,2017-04-01 05:26:16,">>119162857 And why would that be ? An ""organized government"" would have to be formed in first place. Since it will apply violence on its own people to even make sure to ""keep order"", the own ""citizens"" would not tolerate such thing in first place, because the very moment it does something that is not approved of 100% of the ""citizens"", it goes from voluntariness to unvoluntary action - violating the NAP and facing repercussions in form of domestic terrorism, counter-economy and so on. You argument is therefore invalid.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491024376 119161740,119163488,2017-04-01 05:27:24,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491024444 119161740,119163521,2017-04-01 05:27:58,Ancaps are a bunch of Sociopaths that only want a world where they can get away with anything,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491024478 119161740,119163560,2017-04-01 05:28:29,">>119161878 Not when you acquire a reputation for murdering anybody who opposes you, especially those who seek to establish a monopoly on force. The tree of liberty needs to be washed by the blood of commies.",,Anonymous,nes-hiss-ary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,SK,,1491024509 119161740,119163639,2017-04-01 05:29:49,">>119162857 Nah. Warlords along with their armies will be flayed alive and buried in salt.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491024589 119161740,119163656,2017-04-01 05:30:02,">>119163311 Quite good. Keeping the pace of spreading the freedom lel",,Anonymous,1490821684079.png,tq1mDmBSLQYEBP9Lyv1jvA==,DE,,1491024602 119161740,119163776,2017-04-01 05:31:52,">>119163521 Nope. We believe in the Non-Agression Principle - that of course does not apply to those who don't believe in it. We don't want the government to get away with having a monopoly on force. We don't want them to get away with taxation. If it isn't agressive, it's not ""getting away with"". You have the mentality of a statist sheep. You are the Jews' cattle.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491024712 119161740,119163865,2017-04-01 05:33:24,">>119163656 Saved. We need to have a ""Poster of the Month"" award. Before the generals took off (so to speak), it would have been based Portubro, but I keep seeing you post a lot. Keep it up. Heil Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491024804 119161740,119163917,2017-04-01 05:34:13,">>119163521 not an ancap, but i tend to agree with them more often than not... what's your point?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491024853 119161740,119163995,2017-04-01 05:35:39,">>119163776 The NAP also states if someone use coercion against you, you can defend your self in anyway you want",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491024939 119161740,119164039,2017-04-01 05:36:16,">>119163521 They're not sociopaths, they're just childish. They were Libertarians at one point, altruistic, ignorant, and they decided to go deeper down the rabbit whole at hit a point where they came to think they were smarter than all the other Libertarians. People are animals. We have animal desires and motivations. People are not inherently good or moral, upbrining in a stable society makes us that way. The idea that a nation where 100% of the land is privately owned depends on every single individual being moral and good natured. One large entity could destroy massive tracts of natural resources for whatever reason, and everyone would have to abide it because it was their property. Mountains could be flattened, entire forests removed, rivers diverted. One person could absolutely change the ecosystem, and that would have indirect consequences on an immense scale. Libertarians have no problem with this because they're altruistic cucks. Individual freedom is not a right wing policy when it creates undesirable trends. Allowing illicit markets, addiction, and other degenerate behavior is extremely leftist. People are not born civilized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491024976 119161740,119164153,2017-04-01 05:37:47,">>119163865 Yeah I kinda started keeping the threads up some days ago - whenever I see there ain't a general - because I work mostly from home, so that ain't a problem",,Anonymous,1490962075502.png,z4xfUokDWBUAtYIWnzcE6A==,DE,,1491025067 119161740,119164210,2017-04-01 05:38:44,">>119163488 >private defense That's one of the things in this ideology I disagree with. Merc armies sound dangerous as fuck, shouldn't your country be defended by patriots who genuinely love it and belong to units/regiments with history and esprit de corps? It's one of the concession I'd make for a state",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491025124 119161740,119164332,2017-04-01 05:40:52,">>119164039 degeneneracy and moral degredation is a result of egalitarian tolerance. ""its okay to be gay"" social norms and anti-discrimination laws. Tolerance is a failed socialist project that taints everything it touches today. in order for a libertarian society to exist realisticly people must enact the most extreme stance of intolerance towards low lifes and degenerates. those who disagree are hurting libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491025252 119161740,119164466,2017-04-01 05:42:59,">>119164210 soldiers today are paid, so would private defense. also who says your army wouldn't be part of your community and proud to defend it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491025379 119161740,119164510,2017-04-01 05:43:55,">>119164039 Yeah right, it's not like the things you describe aren't already a problem in today's """"""civilized"""""" world. You're just being ignorant of the fact that when people/corporations would attempt such things, the consumers would just abandon it - getting insurers to work etc. - because they don't want their environment to be destroyed. The market will make sure that the most profitable behavior will be established. And that's not today's kind of ""what you can't harvest now, you can't harvest later""-attitude.",,Anonymous,1490697662797.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,DE,,1491025435 119161740,119164545,2017-04-01 05:44:27,">>119163995 What's wrong with that? Are you a cuck who wants to cave to any pressure from muh state? Jesus, that's pathetic.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491025467 119161740,119164641,2017-04-01 05:45:55,">>119164153 Great work. We're salting the earth with yellow pills.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491025555 119161740,119164683,2017-04-01 05:46:38,">>119164545 No I general hate the state more than I hate corporations. Im centre right by the way",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491025598 119161740,119164694,2017-04-01 05:46:49,">>119164466 That's the point. Today's soldiers are payed, too, and .... hopefully .... defending their country, because they want it save. The difference would just be that the covenant/community has no monopoly on violence contrary to modern states, thus, making international warmongering inefficient and unprofitable - apart from violating the NAP anyway",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491025609 119161740,119164928,2017-04-01 05:50:23,,,Anonymous,1469219701070.jpg,AJncu3hMuCcjzR0lglETSw==,US,,1491025823 119161740,119164950,2017-04-01 05:50:46,">>119164210 One issue that pops up with Libertarian/AnCap solutions to any given problem is the attitude of >Well we can't predict the obvious outcome of any situation where government oversight would help, but when the inevitable problems arise we'll deal with them afterwards with the free market! Widespread use of private military forces is one such issue. Even basic food quality assurance is an issue. A producer could sell tainted product, kill a million people, and the immediate product would be ""Just be from someone else."" Some business might step up and say ""Oh, we decided to test for that one thing that killed all those people, so our product is safe."" That marketing angle might get them the lion's share of business, until the product is tainted with something else that kills people. Rinse and repeat. Everyone will keep doing the bare minimum, and full AnCap society has no incentive for a court system to enforce legal liability, and force all producers to operate with a certain level of quality assurance. A society that is incapable of providing a base level of security for certain things is not a society. >>119164510 >Yeah right, it's not like the things you describe aren't already a problem in today's """"""civilized"""""" world. Except they're not. Huge parts of the country are protected, there are environmental regulations, government programs to mitigate and reverse damage done by chemical spills. If someone ruins a protected forest they're going to prison. No single person can destroy a river without consequence. The free market is not a solution. If common sense tells you of an obvious problem with a certain course of action, that action should probably be legislated against to prevent it and avoid the situation all together. If your solution is just ""lol wait and see"" then you're an autistic man child, the exact antithesis of what creates civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491025846 119161740,119165055,2017-04-01 05:52:14,">>119164039 Degeneracy is a result of subsidy of marginal behaviour. When you stop giving money to dysfunctional individuals, they have a choice between bettering themselves (because you're free to not hire a druggie) or dying. Stable societies breed lefty faggots. Conflict breeds strong people, and there's always going to be conflict in a true right-wing society. There's going to be faggots who think they can do anything they please in a propertarian system, and somebody's got to put them in their place, be it insurance companies or uninsured individuals. Liberty is the freedom from restraints of a monopoly on violence, not the freedom to do anything you want. As soon as you turn the society conservative, it will be near impossible to revert to (((liberalism))) under a Hoppean AnCap/paleolibertarian system, since people shun degenerate behaviour and insurance companies drop those who give them a bad name. If an unethical ""insurance company"" is created to protect those who violate the NAP, then you have a target to take out. It's not rocket science.",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1491025934 119161740,119165081,2017-04-01 05:52:39,>>119164928,,Anonymous,physicalremoval.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,DE,,1491025959 119161740,119165137,2017-04-01 05:53:32,">>119164210 Yes, most of the defense forces are made up of men who fight for duty as well as money. Either one alone makes for a shitty merc, and insurers who hire them know this - if they've read The Prince.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491026012 119161740,119165243,2017-04-01 05:55:06,">the rich burghers and merchants of medieval Italy were too busy making money and enjoy- ing life to undertake the hardships and dangers of soldiering themselves. So they adopted the practice of hiring mercenaries to do their fight- ing for them, and, being thrifty, businesslike folk, they dismissed their mercenaries imme- diately after their services could be dispensed with. Wars were, therefore, fought by armies hired for each campaign. . . . For the first time, soldiering became a reasonable and compara- tively harmless profession. The generals of that period maneuvered against each other, often with consummate skill, but when one had won the advantage, his opponent generally either retreated or surrendered. It was a recognized rule that a town could only be sacked if it offered resistance: immunity could always be purchased by paying a ransom. . . . As one natural conse- quence, no town ever resisted, it being obvious that a government too weak to defend its citi- zens had forfeited their allegiance. Civilians had little to fear from the dangers of war which were the concern only of professional soldiers.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1491026106 119161740,119165257,2017-04-01 05:55:16,">>119164683 Then what's wrong with defense from coercion? A corporation can not force you on gunpoint to do what they say. If they do that, they turn into a government.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491026116 119161740,119165259,2017-04-01 05:55:18,">>119164950 see >>119165055",,Anonymous,1490811698136.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,DE,,1491026118 119161740,119165271,2017-04-01 05:55:33,">>119164950 doesn't the harmful products issue happen now all the time? how often are cars recalled because of possibly deadly failures, the company has to take action to prevent harm of his products as he fears legal action and market resistance in these cases. I don't see how it would be different in a private property society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491026133 119161740,119165384,2017-04-01 05:57:01,">>119165257 You've seen the ancap memes",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491026221 119161740,119165435,2017-04-01 05:57:47,">>119165243 That's a quote from Rothbard's ""Anatomy of the State"" p.49, quoted himself of F.J.P. Veale, Advance to Barbarism (Appleton, Wis.: C.C. Nel- son, 1953), p. 63.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491026267 119161740,119165445,2017-04-01 05:57:57,">>119165243 Wanted to post before the quote >muh warlords will destroy everything sorry for the mess up",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1491026277 119161740,119165548,2017-04-01 05:59:22,">>119165384 >memes cmooooooooon",,Anonymous,1490713534644.jpg,XnweBGBJLV0zaU1eNKLVyw==,DE,,1491026362 119161740,119165675,2017-04-01 06:01:11,">>119165055 Degeneracy is literally hedonism, and hedonism is the end result of extreme individualism. A person seeking only their own pleasure as an individual with no regard to higher purpose or responsibility. A government can only enable degeneracy as far as the culture allows. If the culture is devoid of drive for the collective good then it is inherently always going to trend towards degeneracy. If the individual is held above all else then the culture is degenerate. A man is not an island unto himself. A man has a duty in life to create a family and raise them well. It is not the individual that is paramount, but the family. Libertarianism and AnCaps seek to create an extremely hedonistic quasi nation, to that point where no real government exists in the case of AnCaps. >>119165271 Our system now is extremely far from perfect, but we still have legal liability. We have a court system. We can sue companies for causing harm, but also for negligence in not acting to prevent avoidable harm. We have a government that enforces consequences on our behalf. Thats the benefit of a state. This doesn't exist in the autistic manchild AnCap fantasy world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491026471 119161740,119165933,2017-04-01 06:05:24,">>119165675 For fuck sake in a thread earlier today some sperd was arguing that all lawsuits should be voluntary, a defendant should be able to pick his own judge, and if he didn't agree to the terms of the suit he shouldn't have to be held to any legal standard. Thats the level of degenerate nigger logic that AnCaps and Lolbertards are utilizing. They're dysfunctional.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491026724 119161740,119166069,2017-04-01 06:07:19,">>119165243 Is that Hoppe? Machiavelli, on the contrary, stated that mercenaries are not necessarily to be trusted, as their only loyalty to you is your gold that you pay them. Raising paid armies from your own people who train with weapons because otherwise they're not eligible to make decisions in their covenants would probably be the best of both worlds.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491026839 119161740,119166096,2017-04-01 06:07:44,"Daily reminder That good white folks could finantially support having more children without taxation, and even worse our tax money that could go to our children is subsidizing niggers to have tons of children that don't plan to take care of their children anyway and instead spend the money on 20inch rims and drugs. >>119165675 I think you have a misunderstanding of the rigidity of the soceity we advocate for, we believe the functions of the state could be managed without coercion and that degeneracy would not be protected from social conservative discrimination. we wont see eye to eye on this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491026864 119161740,119166298,2017-04-01 06:11:03,">>119166069 see >>119165435",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491027063 119161740,119166384,2017-04-01 06:12:20,"AnCaps are a silly crew with a ridiculous ideology. But if they convince people to be somewhat more libertarian that's cool. As long it's OK to shoot communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491027140 119161740,119166389,2017-04-01 06:12:25,">>119164950 >selling a tainted product Enjoy having not one, but multiple private armies at your doorstep. Still worth it to poison millions of people for no reason at all? If food providers want to make sure this doesn't happen, they leave the testing to the insurers themselves - because then, any deaths will be on them and thus they will be the target of backlash, not you. The only power of the government comes from guns - and the belief in the magical dust of legality. Take that away - in a civil war, for example - and you see that the government has no choice but to treat its citizens better than the other factions do. That's a market principle, because civil war is just a more lethal form of competition, with the ultimate cost being death. I hate to side with the Stirnerites (although Stirner was not as idiotic as them - he was quite based, in fact), but they're right in this matter - government is a spook.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491027145 119161740,119166583,2017-04-01 06:15:22,">>119165384 They're memes and not reality. Partly it's ironic ancap shitposting as a coping mechanism, partly it's just putting wild statist hallucinations on how an ancap society would look like, partly it's the Hitlerjugend misinterpreting our ideology.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491027322 119161740,119166595,2017-04-01 06:15:36,">>119165933 I agree, there is a horde of ""ancaps"" that equate non-agression to passificsm or ""universal non-violence"" We believe it is just to use force upon aggressors. adam kokesh is a staple pinpoint of this degenerated form of volintarism. he uses non agression as a way to fuel his egalitarian faggot nightmare. I originated these threads to push back against these types. I want to reclaim libertarianism. bring it back to its reactionary roots and purge the commies. realistic libertarianism is right-libertarianism. we can argue about non agression all day but at the end of the day force is being used all around us and we should use force to retaliate. peace and love is a failed communistic ideology that must be smashed/",,Anonymous,Monarchy.png,shQ0vXATgrTRWOoqBgtuOg==,US,,1491027336 119161740,119166631,2017-04-01 06:16:11,">>119165548 this is the best one holy kek",,Anonymous,feline chuckle.png,OO0I+4GzggSaLlwcoc2ErQ==,SK,,1491027371 119161740,119166734,2017-04-01 06:17:40,">>119161740 What do libertarians think of this non-libertarian FAQ? I consider myself a classical liberal and not a libertarian because I agree that market failures such as externalities, monopolies, asymmetric info justify limiting markets in certain cases. https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/22/repost-the-non-libertarian-faq/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491027460 119161740,119167052,2017-04-01 06:22:38,">>119165675 >Degeneracy is literally hedonism, and hedonism is the end result of extreme individualism. A person seeking only their own pleasure as an individual with no regard to higher purpose or responsibility. Let's say you're an insurer in an ancap society. One of your clients turns into a trainwreck - starts making meth, housing whores, doing stuff not against the NAP but very upsetting to anyone around you. The neighbours want him gone, but he's under your protection, so they give you a choice - them or that degenerate. What choice will you make? >collective good That's the combination of the good of individuals. If they don't get along, they will cut the problem off and carry on. >duty A man has a duty to live and carry on his genes. That derives into other things. However, expecting a man to do this automatically and not as a result of the most profitable way to go about things is foolish and the bane of civilisation. Men don't betray their own for no reason - they do so if they're fed up with how their own have treated them. Paleolibertarians and Hoppean AnCaps seek to create a nation which is composed of smaller parts with the individual and his property being the smallest. He's part of a household and a family. They are part of a neighbourhood. That is part of a community. That is part of a town. That is part of a city. That is part of the country, a.k.a. the land on which the nation resides.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491027758 119161740,119167081,2017-04-01 06:23:07,">>119165933 That was a fag arguing AGAINST AnCap, not for it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491027787 119161740,119167104,2017-04-01 06:23:27,">>119166096 This.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491027807 119161740,119167112,2017-04-01 06:23:38,"When are you liberfags gonna wake up and realize that the only school of thought that realistically addresses the issues facing humanity is represented by the Fourth International? Permanent Revolution is the only way forward.",,Anonymous,TROTS.jpg,6yN/sx7HdcN2UFIL4XqdYg==,US,,1491027818 119161740,119167181,2017-04-01 06:24:40,">>119166096 >we believe the functions of the state could be managed without coercion Friedman stated that a government's only three functions should be to provide for the defense of the nation, enforce contracts between individuals, and protect citizens from crimes against their persons and property. None of these things can take place without coercion at some level. Administering any of these requires the government to spend a great sum of money, and as the government itself is not a for profit entity, this money has to come from taxation. A purely voluntary society is nothing but a leftist Commie fantasy. Sperglord AnCaps wouldn't even agree to those three tenets. They'd say everything should be privatized, or it simply wouldn't need to exist. Its more than ironic that they call themselves capitalist at all when they fail to grasp the primary driving force behind it. Capitalism exists because it is a natural evolution of hierarchical power structures. Exchange of goods and services from actors at different levels within the structure for a fee commensurate to their input at a rate the market will bear. The later portion of that encompasses all the potential competition and highlights the intricacies within market hierarchy. People competing against one another. A government is a hierarchical power structure, it is the evolution of something that naturally exists. AnCaps hold positions that are at odds with natural order and human behavior. That is adverse to the creation and maintaining of a functioning society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491027880 119161740,119167350,2017-04-01 06:27:32,">>119167112 NO. that nonsense is what drives the moral degredation we see today. those strategies are carried out by feminists, BLM, Antifa and only serve to keep good people divided and occupied with senseless bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491028052 119161740,119167454,2017-04-01 06:29:15,">>119166389 >company sells a product they didn't know was bad >BETTER SEND THE PRIVATE MILITARY BECAUSE THATS A DEATH SENTENCE! If negligence, gross or otherwise, is punishable by death, that is coercion. A free market does not exist because everyone must create unrealistic standards so they're not killed by mercenaries for a minor slip up. That unreasonable level of quality assurance would drastically raise the cost of everything, and there could be no undercutting in that market unless someone had their own private military protecting them. Who would act an an insurer for anything in this market? Why would a third party take on that liability(which legally does not even exist in your fantasy land) why would another company which would inevitably need their own private army to be secure be interested in this at all? You're a retard if you think this would function. Full on Mollymeme tier delusional. The power a government holds is the same power that a lock on a house door holds. 99.9% of time it keeps an honest man honest because the simple existence is a deterrent. Presence of law, presence of the legal system, fear of reprisal in a real justice system. That is the power of a state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491028155 119161740,119167623,2017-04-01 06:31:56,">>119167181 Thats fine if the state just served those functions. I would be much happier with that as a solution that our current mess. I'm not the type to sperg out with ""muh statism"" I'm much more worried about leftism as the greatest threat to liberty. i'd like to see us complete the privatization of those services anyway.",,Anonymous,1490140529536.jpg,aThGpkXG8xi+q76M+EbJ8A==,US,,1491028316 119161740,119167912,2017-04-01 06:36:47,">>119167623 That's cool but these threads all revolve around ""muh NAP,"" praxxing, anti-consequentialism other insane bullshit. You people would be so much more effective if you just tried to point out how often the government makes our lives worse. Encouraging shooting communists is another good strategy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491028607 119161740,119168240,2017-04-01 06:42:24,">>119167912 Thats the thing, there is nothing coherent about AnCap views because every single AnCap tard will act as if his personal opinion is rule of law. If you don't recognize higher social order on any level then for all intents and purposes its fly by the seat of your pants. The only idea they all agree upon is that any violation of the NAP justifies self defense of any proportion. What was once just a satirical joke has become an actual ideology held by retards here. Its inherently destructive. This type of horseshit stinks of Jewish subversion. Getting people to buy into destructive dead end ideology is exactly what a subversive agent would do to keep a group ineffective, splintered, and weak. The government did the exact same thing to various militia groups in the past. The same thing is playing out here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491028944 119161740,119168467,2017-04-01 06:46:05,">>119167912 fuck govnmnt",,Anonymous,das-nap-gilt-nicht-fuer-neger.jpg,Dol9rkCvgNfCGb3LuI82sw==,DE,,1491029165 119161740,119168561,2017-04-01 06:47:41,">>119168240 t. Shlomo Shekelstein",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491029261 119161740,119168636,2017-04-01 06:49:07,">>119167912 >>119168240 Yes I agree completely these threads have gone off the rails a bit. I don't want to debate the NAP. I want to direct us against the enemies, the left. overt communists to the leftists that have invaded libertarianism. hopefully getting libertarian branded as ""evil"" ""racist"" ""alt-right"" in the mainsteam would serve well to uncuck our movement and keep leftists away. this is a challenge because many libertarians (even my brothers in this thread) are opposed to alliing with the authoritarian right types, and somewhat justifiably so. There can be no libertarian future while the left is running amok. save the right for a libertarian future. the state exists. and if it is to exist it should exist in our favor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491029347 119161740,119168859,2017-04-01 06:52:30,Damn I remember these threads being sporadic and often times ending up archived with less than 20 posts a month or two ago. Looks like our dank OC memes and dedication made Ansnekistan a reality. Thank you Ameribro who did the FAQ and the (((Reddit))) page and thank you Germanbro for being here always and putting up with certain people who seek to divide us. Based allies.,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1491029550 119161740,119169148,2017-04-01 06:57:04,">>119168859 Yes, and thank you Based Portubro. You are a superstar in these threads. I'm still working on faq a bit at a time. I would like to re-write the OP message too, I'd like it to not be so cookie-cutter change things up a bit.",,Anonymous,efa372d1c26d2359176a07034294654d0f1d54ef8aef2ee567a6b82053a1c962.png,VIoxRrdj/QDu/Xzks6O58Q==,US,,1491029824 119161740,119169174,2017-04-01 06:57:27,">>119168561 >>119168561 >post AnCap propaganda >propaganda that would be targeted predominately at right leaning politically aware white men >propaganda that keeps them neutered by encouraging totally unrealistic goals >propaganda that is nothing more than ""must state is bad"" while ignoring the real cause behind rampant bureaucracy You're a good little goyim, aren't you? Doing what your masters want, probably without even being paid. An ethnically homogeneous society gives rise to a high responsibility and high trust culture. If that high trust culture is fostered into social duty to family and nation then it gives rise to individuals who act with a sense of duty when creating and working in government. That is what we had when this nation was founded. The lazy minorities in government jobs, the lack of responsibility, the absolution of group, the just another drop in the bucket mentality used to justify endless greedy spending. That doesn't exist in a culture where people care for their own. The solution starts with whites Balkanizing and pursuing the ethnostate and traditionalism with family values at the core of society. AnCap ideology is literally a subversive kike diversion. Stop being anti white.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491029847 119161740,119169431,2017-04-01 07:00:56,">>119169148 I'm honestly taking a step back and letting other people share the message for me now that the seed is planted. I still visit there threads and am planning on making some dank new Hoppewave soon, but for now I'll lurk here and answer the toughest posters and shills. What good is a carriage if we don't have strong horses to pull it?",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1491030056 119161740,119169491,2017-04-01 07:01:45,>>119168859,,Anonymous,1490736838706.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,DE,,1491030105 119161740,119169803,2017-04-01 07:06:25,">>119169431 Yeah I've taken a back seat position since germanbro started hosting. I will however want to op soon. We need direction now I think the thread meta is stagnating now that we have a larger population and we need to do something or we'll just be a punching bag like cg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491030385 119161740,119169930,2017-04-01 07:08:23,">>119169803 We need more meme warfare and more videos, that's it. I'll start OPing /lrg/ and /hhh/ threads when I have the time too.",,Anonymous,guide to ancap.jpg,Ct6y00S0WbVLMPr2fEghgg==,PT,,1491030503 119161740,119169983,2017-04-01 07:09:05,">>119163776 >We believe in the Non-Agression Principle - that of course does not apply to those who don't believe in it. Behead those who insult the religion of peace",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491030545 119161740,119170127,2017-04-01 07:11:11,">>119169930 What about Hayek's ""The Road to Serfdom""?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491030671 119161740,119170157,2017-04-01 07:11:38,">>119169983 It's not behead them for not believing. It's ""behead those who take action against us."" Replace the Islamists with the communists and apply that to PVV, National Front, the radical right, etc. and add a highly decentralized message on top.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491030698 119161740,119170182,2017-04-01 07:12:04,">>119169803 You need a coherent ideology with concise real solutions to problems instead of verbose excuses that skirt around issues and depend on the magical free market. You need to purge out the AnCap retards from your ranks who have no idea what a nation even is. You need to think on the outcomes of policies rather than just the principles behind them. Libertarian ideology can lead to a stable and prosperous country so long as it isn't over zealously pursued like a cult religion. The retards who just meme and call everyone a statist are only doing you harm. Everyone who advocates for policies that enable and encourage degeneracy is your enemy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491030724 119161740,119170225,2017-04-01 07:12:38,">>119170127 Hayek was not AnCap and as far as I know there was a schism between the Austrian School where one group followed Hayek's minarchism and the other followed Rothbard's anarchism.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491030758 119161740,119170303,2017-04-01 07:13:41,">>119170225 He has a lot of good points though for example he totally btfo's the concept of social justice",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491030821 119161740,119170315,2017-04-01 07:13:50,">>119169803 In first place, I'd say to use the discord thing of /pol/ to organize a bit",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491030830 119161740,119170382,2017-04-01 07:14:50,">>119170303 Yes, I like Hayek as well but since that image was about AnCapism I posted the main works.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491030890 119161740,119170436,2017-04-01 07:15:29,btw there was this guy on the 2nd Hoppewave video asking the name of the song. It's Resonance by Home at 80% speed.,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491030929 119161740,119170579,2017-04-01 07:17:38,">>119170382 Okay that makes sense then",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491031058 119161740,119171041,2017-04-01 07:26:10,Bump for freedom,,Anonymous,1490736157031.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,DE,,1491031570 119161740,119171363,2017-04-01 07:31:09,">>119161740 SON,",,Anonymous,hiiiiiiiiidesu.jpg,BQf8jaBC0vWo+9K+STbAzQ==,GR,,1491031869 119161740,119172887,2017-04-01 07:54:53,bump,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491033293 119161740,119173321,2017-04-01 08:01:27,"nah, once we have reverted to a dynastic monarchy with a landed aristocracy, ideas such as ""anarcho capitalism"" and ""libertarianism"" will be grounds for life in a dungeon. You idiots can bloviate on ""removing the communist fags"" all you want. The authoritarians are watching, and they don't have a economic ideology that isn't machiavellian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491033687 119161740,119173375,2017-04-01 08:02:25,">>119170157 I was just shitposting famalam I agree with you on the content, it's the form which was misleading so to speak. >We believe in the Non-Agression Principle - that of course does not apply to those who don't believe in it. Literally says that the NAP does not apply to those who don't believe in it, while they're in fact still protected by the NAP as long as they don't break it, which is pretty much what you said. That kind of detail is important to convince people I think, if it can be interpreted as ""a law doesn't apply to me because I don't believe it's a good law, even if I don't break it and the dialogue on this is closed"" then fuck it said law is probably shit, displayed like this it's possible to dissmiss it without even looking into it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491033745 119161740,119173421,2017-04-01 08:03:02,">>119173321 >dynastic monarchy with a landed aristocracy in other words, semi-Ancapism",,Anonymous,the family.jpg,pEgr2mcLJaMPJU5Jth4A4g==,PT,,1491033782 119161740,119174227,2017-04-01 08:15:18,">>119165675 >Libertarianism and AnCaps seek to create an extremely hedonistic quasi nation, to that point where no real government exists in the case of AnCaps. Hedonism is not the point or goal or either libertarianism or ancap. You should read about the objectivist ethics instead of spouting your bs assumptions as if they were gospel.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491034518 119161740,119174774,2017-04-01 08:23:55,bonk,,Anonymous,1490817995643.jpg,tvKv0no9/a6+XBeHyHKi9Q==,DE,,1491035035 119161740,119174941,2017-04-01 08:26:15,">>119161740 >Come to lolberg thread to shitpost and troll lolbergs >Entire thread is Hoppe and Pinochet I'm actually impressed Good job guys",,Anonymous,1414490898417_wps_1_Taylor_Swift_has_been_nam.jpg,UTf/Zx0KmQ9+H+E0noOMsA==,CA,,1491035175 119161740,119175303,2017-04-01 08:31:18,A link to Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics should be in the OP.,,Anonymous,,,SY,,1491035478 119161740,119175519,2017-04-01 08:34:26,">>119162857 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8wM0IDmhk&feature=youtube_gdata_player https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1491035666 119161740,119175681,2017-04-01 08:37:08,">>119174941 That's the mission, uncuck our freedom lovers.",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1491035828 119184405,119184405,2017-04-02 05:46:30,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - HELICOPTER DEATH SQUADS EDITION,Anonymous,fully automated helicopter rides.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,SK,,1491111990 119184405,119184488,2017-04-02 05:47:52,pinochet was not an ancap,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491112072 119184405,119184520,2017-04-02 05:48:25,,,Anonymous,ancap literature.jpg,KZ5XV+ZWxSP/vGx6lRaGYQ==,SK,,1491112105 119184405,119184591,2017-04-02 05:49:42,">>119184488 He employed Friedman, who was a right-libertarian. That's close enough. Plus, he threw commies off choppers.",,Anonymous,nes-hiss-ary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,SK,,1491112182 119184405,119184609,2017-04-02 05:50:06,"Here's to non violent, non authoritarian alternatives to public services. Maybe one day people will have enough of that """"autistic"""" impulse for truth and justice to make community policing not a synonym for lynch mob.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491112206 119184405,119184627,2017-04-02 05:50:22,,,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.jpg,QLIUZ26a1MH/Uo1nSn8nPw==,SK,,1491112222 119184405,119184726,2017-04-02 05:52:21,">>119184609 >BUT WHOM'ST'D'VE WILL BUILD THE ROADS???",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1491112341 119184405,119184761,2017-04-02 05:52:52,,,Anonymous,rothbard privatisation.jpg,WXsZoScWPE8MGWrTk70zRA==,SK,,1491112372 119184405,119184813,2017-04-02 05:53:46,"So, now that the dust has cleared, where the fuck are Germanbro and Portubro? It ain't a proper thread without them.",,Anonymous,anticom unit.jpg,rRrqNMd9Jq+gOT07WKP9VQ==,SK,,1491112426 119184405,119184873,2017-04-02 05:54:42,">>119184726 Fuck you. Just fuck off. There is no reason why roads can't be mutually crowd sourced amongst the land owners who live adjacent to the road that needs maintaining.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491112482 119184405,119184946,2017-04-02 05:56:19,">>119184873 I know. Jesus, I was memeing.",,Anonymous,commie literacy.png,Gw8D8bVIPmsAj5ClTRz/Gw==,SK,,1491112579 119184405,119185069,2017-04-02 05:58:48,"Any reads about public vs private policing and related things? Same with what to do with homeless individuals in a society of full private ownership? Only things keeping me from going full /ancap/ and don't want to knock it before giving it a fair go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491112728 119184405,119186124,2017-04-02 06:17:16,">>119185069 Toss out the idea of policing altogether. Instead use name-and-shame tactics so that people discriminate against people who do bad things. Consider Uber and AirBnB. If you do something bad, you'll get a bad rating and you won't get to take part on either side. Also think about how hard it becomes to get a loan if you have a bad credit score. Just about any review system serves as an example of how the market discriminates against people who do bad things. Imagine the 'Purge' scenario. If a person did a REALLY bad thing, and the police weren't able to act against that person, their names would still be all over the news. If you encountered that person on a review-based service then you would downvote them and make it clear to everyone else on that service that this is a really bad person. I don't have this idea ironed-out, but it's a good place to start for an alternative to policing as we know it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491113836 119184405,119186192,2017-04-02 06:18:29,*sssssssssssss*,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491113909 119184405,119186256,2017-04-02 06:19:27,">>119185069 >>119186124 Yes, this would be bad for individual privacy. Perhaps we're being entitled as customers when we don't respect the privacy of the people who provide to us but we expect them to respect our privacy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491113967 119184405,119186578,2017-04-02 06:24:22,">>119185069 >>119186124 Ooh. Also think about job references. Again, with the 'Purge' scenario, I wonder what kind of experience you'd have if you committed an un-punishable crime and then tried to get a job once you were identified.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491114262 119184405,119187106,2017-04-02 06:32:12,">>119184405 I remember when I was a right an-cap. Soon you move on to straight up nationalism/fascism with a strong tie to neo-reaction. Have fun! https://radishmag.wordpress.com/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491114732 119184405,119187335,2017-04-02 06:36:06,">>119184405 >AnCap is utopistic >National (((Socialism))) is really the way to go >It's absolutely not socialism goy >IT'S ETHNICITY CENTERED SO IT ISN'T SOCIALISM BECAUSE SOCIALISM IS CLASS CENTERED REEEEEEEE >mfw",,Anonymous,1490956172627.gif,laWz5gvhA/3Ym5yfbxSN7Q==,DE,,1491114966 119184405,119187430,2017-04-02 06:37:26,">>119184813 Slept long breh lel",,Anonymous,1490743551657.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,DE,,1491115046 119184405,119187753,2017-04-02 06:42:33,">>119187106 Why did you change your opinion ? Can't handle the idea of absolute freedom and need a (((Führer))) ? Jokes aside, why is that ? You can't go from full-blown anarchism to hardass statism, because >big gov is totally fine and >muh ethnicity That's virtually impossible just from theory itself",,Anonymous,1490736157031.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,DE,,1491115353 119184405,119188165,2017-04-02 06:48:53,Finally /lrg/ is back nice,,Anonymous,1485115827879.png,b/vTEhTq36Bg+e4asoserQ==,DE,,1491115733 119184405,119188280,2017-04-02 06:50:29,">>119187106 Was the other way around for me bro Government is always illegitimate",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491115829 119184405,119188285,2017-04-02 06:50:31,"I got to ride the same taxi as pinochet back in the 70's. He was on a official state visit in Punta Arenas. I don't know how he ended up in a taxi, but I'm glad he did. He was a fun guy, had some good laughs that time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491115831 119184405,119188296,2017-04-02 06:50:40,">>119184488 And what's the point ? >>119188165 Tried to make one in that pony faggotry mess yesterday. Thread 404'd …",,Anonymous,1490878887221.jpg,D68euva1VU3oFLHSYl68Yw==,DE,,1491115840 119184405,119188546,2017-04-02 06:54:30,">>119188296 Yeah that was crazy It still exists as a hidden board though kek >>>/mlpol/",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491116070 119184405,119188742,2017-04-02 06:58:03,">>119188546 lel",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1491116283 119184405,119189268,2017-04-02 07:07:02,How's it possible that interest declined from 5 posts/minute to 1 post/5 minutes in a matter of days ? Have the stormfags given up on trying to invade the threads just to get shit on ?,,Anonymous,xd08Jpn.jpg,/d105EvNUXjckYv+jP5QsA==,DE,,1491116822 119184405,119189429,2017-04-02 07:09:12,">>119189268 Many /pol/acks are still in /mlpol/ because it's shill free I guess or they were scared of pony vaginas and didn't come back yet",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491116952 119184405,119189945,2017-04-02 07:16:54,">>119189429 Yeah prolly. Fucking degenerate shit.",,Anonymous,1490567419484.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,DE,,1491117414 119184405,119190008,2017-04-02 07:17:55,wassup,,Anonymous,1490725917867.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1491117475 119184405,119190372,2017-04-02 07:23:26,">>119190008 waddup",,Anonymous,1490713184063.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,DE,,1491117806 119184405,119190471,2017-04-02 07:24:51,">>119190372 do people still think free trade is a good thing? that's funny",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491117891 119184405,119190654,2017-04-02 07:27:27,">>119190471 We have no free trade now, so what would make you think free trade is a bad thing ? Because certain contracts have something in their name like ""free trade agreement"" ? Naw bro, you're wrong on that one.",,Anonymous,1490844652609.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,DE,,1491118047 119184405,119190862,2017-04-02 07:30:33,">>119190654 Free trade inherently requires free movement of people t. mises",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491118233 119184405,119191188,2017-04-02 07:35:46,Would a country that is currently in a transition phase to an AnCap society vote for this international legislation?,,Anonymous,WA.png,wHGasAy6mMNsn1mxYSD3rA==,DE,,1491118546 119184405,119191242,2017-04-02 07:36:33,">>119190862 ""Accordingly, population movements, unlike product shipments, are not per se mutually beneficial events, because they are not always-necessarily and invariably-the result of an agree- ment between a specific receiver and sender. There can be shipments (immigrants) without willing domestic recipients. In this case, immi- grants are foreign invaders and immigration represents an act of inva- sion."" Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Democracy - The God that Failed, p. 161",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491118593 119184405,119191448,2017-04-02 07:39:58,">>119191242 what is that supposed to refute?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491118798 119184405,119191821,2017-04-02 07:46:40,">>119191448 It's an explanation, not refusal.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491119200 119184405,119192205,2017-04-02 07:53:22,">>119191821 Well it's purpose still remains a mystery to me. If you have free trade the larger labour market is going to absorb all manufacturing. Comparative advantage is a joke.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491119602 119184405,119192374,2017-04-02 07:56:25,">>119188165 w2c patch",,Anonymous,1470980490469.jpg,ZZUacOf2lr2z8F4besgHzA==,AU,,1491119785 119184405,119192436,2017-04-02 07:57:19,">>119187335 Says the capitalist who accepts the most Jewish ideology. You do realize Jews make up thev1% right? You keep saying that capitalism has brought many great things thus praising Jews indirectly. Read up on Otto Strasser. Anti-bureaucratic control, anti-plutocratic control, but more hierarchical than capitalism.",,Anonymous,IMG_4545.png,nlLu1GopnMV7FaTGRy+FRw==,US,,1491119839 119184405,119192472,2017-04-02 07:58:06,">Be Ayn Rand >Speak against government >grab social security and medicare",,Anonymous,lolbertarians btfo.png,5hN4VjPCEL5ritXa9sVjUQ==,FI,,1491119886 119184405,119192648,2017-04-02 08:01:02,">>119184405 SAGE AND HIDE",,Anonymous,1487179070233.jpg,dD265HRcX36bBWjh482HfA==,NL,,1491120062 119184405,119192657,2017-04-02 08:01:12,">>119192374 Probably nowhere but you could try and ask the dudes who run http://www.patchdynamics.net/ to adopt it into their sortiment Also custom stickers are pretty cheap",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491120072 119184405,119192766,2017-04-02 08:02:51,">>119184813 Sup senpai",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1491120171 119184405,119192776,2017-04-02 08:03:02,">>119192472 >>Speak against government >>grab social security and medicare Why the fuck not? Getting back what the state steals.",,Anonymous,1484768911602.png,OuNbYyMnDm6/3BhNWVpilw==,PT,,1491120182 119184405,119192795,2017-04-02 08:03:16,Can we remove or change this shitty ancom flag,,Anonymous,vcw.png,zo7+6O/zKhFs3yuNMGtQAw==,AU,,1491120196 119184405,119192805,2017-04-02 08:03:25,">>119187430 I was beginning to get worried.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491120205 119184405,119192922,2017-04-02 08:05:08,">>119190008 AYYYYYYYY",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491120308 119184405,119192936,2017-04-02 08:05:21,">>119184405 GO AWAY, GET HELP Anarcho Capitalism? hahahahahah. Libertarianism is like Communism: and idealistic fantasy that has never been actually tried and would never actually work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491120321 119184405,119193002,2017-04-02 08:06:20,">>119185069 Public policing is always underfunded or over-funded given that a state cannot efficiently allocate resources because it has no market signals (economic calculation problem). See ""The Private Production of Defense"" by Hoppe.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1491120380 119184405,119193118,2017-04-02 08:08:07,">>119192936 It is quite worrying, at least communist countries managed to defend themselves, I doubt (true) ancaps would fair as well.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491120487 119184405,119193139,2017-04-02 08:08:23,">>119189945 > what an idiotic quote, the guy is an autistic True Believer, evidently devoid of humanity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491120503 119184405,119193156,2017-04-02 08:08:46,">>119192436 You're advocating for a highly violent system that imprisons/kills dissenters, enslaves people though unvoluntary laws on gunpoint - kills or imprisons them if they don't act according to those illegitimate laws - and worst of all WHERE THE SYSTEM IS THE EMPLOYER BY DEFINITION. That is TOTALLY NOT communism with an ethnic touch. You're totally right breh. It's """"""Capitalism"""""" because it's named capitalism. The more often you tell that to yourself the more true it becomes, right ? And don't forget to call it jewish ideology as often as you can to make your dumbass claims sound more reasonable to yourself.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491120526 119184405,119193166,2017-04-02 08:08:57,">>119192936 >Communism >has never been actually tried okay go home commie goy",,Anonymous,1488739750494.png,NWtCVud/LCFU0avE1xeDWA==,PT,,1491120537 119184405,119193221,2017-04-02 08:09:42,">>119192936 i don't think it could happen but the closer you can get to it the better",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491120582 119184405,119193397,2017-04-02 08:11:58,">>119193156 why is violence bad?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491120718 119184405,119193522,2017-04-02 08:14:00,">>119193397 It isn't as long as it is just and in conformity with property rights protection.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491120840 119184405,119193536,2017-04-02 08:14:11,">>119192936 Yes goy nothing is real communism",,Anonymous,1491053169162.gif,m7DPtSpreCo2Mnx4n7VUWg==,DE,,1491120851 119184405,119193680,2017-04-02 08:16:15,">>119192472 >get money stolen from you through taxation >not supposed to get some of it back W E W",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491120975 119184405,119193750,2017-04-02 08:17:17,">>119192648 Daily reminder that communism has failed spectacularly.",,Anonymous,autistic screeching marx.jpg,r+R1HDIdRAW8ZuoTy8O4sw==,SK,,1491121037 119184405,119193832,2017-04-02 08:18:22,">>119192936 All other ideologies are doomed to fail even if everything goes to plan.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491121102 119184405,119193881,2017-04-02 08:19:12,">>119192776 >>119193680 What you dumbasses don't realize is that she spoke against the government yet she needed help from it in her later years She was a hypocrite and so are you. Consider suicide.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491121152 119184405,119193901,2017-04-02 08:19:30,">>119193118 >leaf",,Anonymous,give up leaf.jpg,6Hp2mMXifn16GRNWljNJTA==,SK,,1491121170 119184405,119194030,2017-04-02 08:21:13,">>119193881 doesn't invalidate her arguments",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491121273 119184405,119194054,2017-04-02 08:21:24,">>119193881 >Govt steals from you your entire life >Not supposed to take what the govt offers Okay mayne",,Anonymous,1485958751435.png,yaCds8d6420FFSdmJX/IyQ==,PT,,1491121284 119184405,119194086,2017-04-02 08:21:53,">>119193901 I'm sorry your autistic fantasy ideology isn't going to work.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491121313 119184405,119194090,2017-04-02 08:21:54,">>119193881 If the government hadn't taken her shit during her life, she would have had enough money to provide for herself. I'd tell you to kill yourself, but you're already a commie.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491121314 119184405,119194128,2017-04-02 08:22:32,">>119193397 >violence is great >let's imprison them when they avoid taxes >let's search their homes while pointing a gun in their face if they do not cooperate >let's enforce more arbitrary laws by force What could possibly go wrong ? State violence is inherently bad for every single person, from the infant to the elder guy. It enforces not the solution of conflicts but it generates them.",,Anonymous,1490967261162.jpg,dmi4qDdBSomYbolpW2dZ/w==,DE,,1491121352 119184405,119194191,2017-04-02 08:23:28,">>119194086 Commie countries didn't even have to defend themselves, because nobody would attack a complete shithole. AnCap society would have to be armed to the teeth, because everybody else is a nigger and wants us to GIBSEMDAT.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491121408 119184405,119194295,2017-04-02 08:25:01,"anarcho-capitalism is for retards who genuinely want to live in a mad max-tier hellholle Minarchism is the truth and the light.",,Anonymous,1470875486568.png,q5/Sp+uHz2bgKMF6Fp+/zg==,US,,1491121501 119184405,119194556,2017-04-02 08:29:06,">>119194128 >one day we'll have a magical violence free society I thought /mlp/ left already >>119194191 What about USSR/NK/Vietnam/Cuba/China?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491121746 119184405,119194651,2017-04-02 08:30:25,">>119194295 Every kind of government is bad and will expand at one point. Police states are inevitable. Every fucking time. >>119194556 Honestly, you're a retard",,Anonymous,1490736838706.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,DE,,1491121825 119184405,119194696,2017-04-02 08:31:10,">>119194295 The only difference between a minarchist and an anarcho-capitalist is a year. See you in a year, space cadet.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491121870 119184405,119194746,2017-04-02 08:31:54,">>119194295 If you don't obey the contracts you will get blown up collectively. Pretty simple huh?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491121914 119184405,119194822,2017-04-02 08:33:02,">>119194651 Yeah dont worry one day you'll get rid of the government and no one will ever form another one because...?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491121982 119184405,119194938,2017-04-02 08:34:45,">>119194651 >Police states are inevitable There are plenty of countries that have never been police states, lad.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491122085 119184405,119194999,2017-04-02 08:35:43,">>119194938 I hope you don't think Australia is not a police state",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491122143 119184405,119195021,2017-04-02 08:36:09,">>119194938 >never More like not yet.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491122169 119184405,119195401,2017-04-02 08:41:38,">>119194999 We're one of the most free countries in the world you mong. I'm aware of the fact that our government spies on us and we don't have complete free speech, but we're still very free in the grand scheme of things. >>119195021 It's far more likely for countries like Australia or Switzerland to never become police states than it is for anarcho capitalism to exist before we go into space.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491122498 119184405,119195536,2017-04-02 08:43:45,">>119195401 >our government spies on us and we don't have free speech >very free >implying it's not going to get worse",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491122625 119184405,119195642,2017-04-02 08:45:14,">>119195401 > no right to self-defense > can't carry or own guns (except fud weapons that have to be locked up and can't be used in case of emergency, plus the police can drop by your house anytime to check up on you) > pay half our income in tax (income tax, GST, levies, tarrifs) > section 18c hate speech laws > heaps of regulation on small businesses > big overbearing government",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491122714 119184405,119195662,2017-04-02 08:45:33,">>119195401 It's already done, friend. Though the swiss people make a fuckton of effort to prevent that. But it's just about time until they start abandoning public referendums from above.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491122733 119184405,119195764,2017-04-02 08:46:58,">>119195642 dont forget your pseudo censorship on small titties",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491122818 119184405,119196003,2017-04-02 08:50:20,">>119195536 We're actually reviewing our laws at the moment and there's a chance that we're getting complete free speech back. >>119195642 I'm not going to debate that these measures are bad, but we're far better than the rest of the world in economic freedom despite what you've listed. Also we're still very good on personal freedoms, albeit behind the US. None of what you posted is more than slight evidence of a police state. >>119195662 The way some of us talk about the west is ridiculous, it's like people believe we're 50 years away from socialism. Things aren't looking up in many ways, but we're still far from fucked.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491123020 119184405,119196156,2017-04-02 08:52:25,">>119196003 > None of what you posted is more than slight evidence of a police state. Behold the result of 13 years of public education",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491123145 119184405,119196250,2017-04-02 08:53:41,">>119196003 No, you're right. We're living right within socialistic systems. Democracy is just another front end.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491123221 119184405,119196456,2017-04-02 08:56:25,Posting some OC,,Anonymous,remove.png,fj3Nd5sqUFk3uAkycPiLpg==,AU,,1491123385 119184405,119196648,2017-04-02 08:58:52,">>119196156 lmao I was at private school for 10 of my 13 years of education try again >>119196250 >says Fritz as he posts on his privately manufactured computer, sitting on his privately manufactured chair drinking privately brewed beer Unless you're from München and drinking Hofbräu lls",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491123532 119184405,119196717,2017-04-02 08:59:58,">>119196250 >tfw you realize that even your ""conservative"" parties are social democrat >tfw you express that opinion in public and you get called a fascist or far-righter. The right in all of Europe is controlled opposition. Even parties like AfD and FN have nothing but social democrap policies.",,Anonymous,rekreationul nucc.jpg,tvKv0no9/a6+XBeHyHKi9Q==,ES,,1491123598 119184405,119197065,2017-04-02 09:05:00,>>119196717,,Anonymous,1490846199167.jpg,dmVI+rJg8/v/57PGmN//zQ==,DE,,1491123900 119184405,119197541,2017-04-02 09:11:12,">>119197065 addition: Though I will vote. And I'm going to vote AfD. Even though they're most likely controlled opposition, they at least stir shit up and make the people go round. That's the way to go for me as non-party associations will likely have no influence here at all.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491124272 119184405,119197647,2017-04-02 09:12:35,">>119197541 it must be a nightmare living in Krautland. What is the threshold for not being labeled a Nazi? Like, what's the limit?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491124355 119184405,119197724,2017-04-02 09:13:27,">>119196717 Libertarianism just doesn't seem to be on the people's mind. The masses act like a restricted sheep herd. Modern and leftist Liberals are harming our reputation. Still I would advocate for some presence within the democratic system, there is the chance to reform our policies with statist means. UKIP, FN and AfD are just some reactionary parties that voice the protest of society's silent ranks. But their potential to shake up the establishment and make it bleed a bit seems fair to me. AfD, FN and UKIP all had their rise due to the protest",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491124407 119184405,119197776,2017-04-02 09:14:20,">>119194651 >Every kind of government is bad What about 100% voluntary government? Me and my friends start our own country. Nobody is forced to live there. Anybody can leave. Is that a problemo?",,Anonymous,1491007571768.jpg,bzq6gX1OXB5qnFgSnY8DWA==,US,,1491124460 119184405,119197850,2017-04-02 09:15:28,">>119197647 Not supporting unlimited and uncontrolled immigration is the threshold I'd say",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491124528 119184405,119198006,2017-04-02 09:17:21,">>119197776 Would be a miracle if your government in that case would be willing to accept a smaller budget if donations go down It'll always look to expand its powers",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491124641 119184405,119198258,2017-04-02 09:20:12,">>119197850 Yes that's quite accurate. Or if you openly advocate against all the little ""speshul rights"" (disguised as ""laws to enforce equality"") that are granted. God forbid you're against """"""equality""""""",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491124812 119184405,119198336,2017-04-02 09:21:10,">>119198006 >if donations go down Lol, no. We'd collect taxes. >It'll always look to expand its powers That's fine. Nobody is forced to live there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491124870 119184405,119198553,2017-04-02 09:23:57,">>119192374 https://jamesconey.wixsite.com/rightwingpatchsquad Not the same patch but the same idea",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491125037 119184405,119198602,2017-04-02 09:24:30,">>119198336 If you collect tax, it's not voluntary anymore, because it's like people don't want to have their money stolen and even if they were ok with that, they couldn't control anymore where that money is used.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491125070 119184405,119198673,2017-04-02 09:25:18,Also daily reminder,,Anonymous,1490971957685.png,ywVULFUbIJ+AFdVdt37L9g==,US,,1491125118 119184405,119198985,2017-04-02 09:29:24,">>119192472 >Be Karl Marx >spend your entire life writing about the exploitation of workers >never work a day in your life, live off of loans from working people, rape your unpaid housemaid, and die without repaying any of your debts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491125364 119184405,119199059,2017-04-02 09:30:25,">>119198673 We're legit. That's why you only ever see one single thread",,Anonymous,1490841690660.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,DE,,1491125425 119184405,119199267,2017-04-02 09:32:58,">>119184405 Isn't throwing communists from helicopters a violation of the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491125578 119184405,119199344,2017-04-02 09:33:44,">>119197776 You can't call rape consensual sex just as you can't call a voluntary dinner between friends, a government decree use ""to govern"" as a verb to check out what it means",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491125624 119184405,119199380,2017-04-02 09:34:08,">>119199267 NAP only applies to people.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491125648 119184405,119199945,2017-04-02 09:40:57,">>119184405 ayo im late to the party. I bailed cuz to much horse pussy but now we're back baby! >>119199267 communists are opposed to private property and seek to take it from us as part of their ideology, so their very nature is to violate the NAP. But its much easier to understand that commies aren't people.",,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1491126057 119184405,119200057,2017-04-02 09:42:14,>>119199267,,Anonymous,1490986075099.png,D1745cW/yuqSGtEHjy1eoA==,DE,,1491126134 119184405,119200160,2017-04-02 09:43:19,">>119199380 This",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491126199 119184405,119200341,2017-04-02 09:45:17,">>119198336 Taxes are never voluntary unless there is a voluntary contract involved but then the government would need your consent every time they raise or lower taxes Nobody is forced to live there is a bullshit argument - If I have property in that country and the government is infringing on my exclusive ownership rights that would violate the NAP and therefore I'd be free to take the measures I deem necessary to protect my property",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491126317 119184405,119200416,2017-04-02 09:46:08,">>119198553 Noice, my oc is out there.",,Anonymous,Trump.png,44Tjo5DcQI2gm+m8bIuGvA==,US,,1491126368 119184405,119200976,2017-04-02 09:52:43,imgoingtoplantmyflagonmars-bump,,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1491126763 119184405,119201454,2017-04-02 09:58:08,Daily reminder lolbertarians does nothing to deal with degeneracy,,Anonymous,13330891_479541195575706_4728653980078044433_n.jpg,CesBqdXpxl/Y3u0BKvfq/w==,US,,1491127088 119184405,119201551,2017-04-02 09:59:06,">>119192795 red team is fighting back hard on this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491127146 119184405,119201762,2017-04-02 10:01:23,">>119198553 This site fucking rocks. Loads of anti Com Anons check this out. All stuff 20 stickers $5 freeship. Anon doing God's work",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170402-095356.png,jcJniEYqOSLQ09xlXNsCQw==,US,,1491127283 119184405,119201887,2017-04-02 10:02:44,">>119201454 daily reminder that if you don't want degenerates on your property you just trespass them from it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491127364 119184405,119202041,2017-04-02 10:04:11,commencing Hoppe posting,,Anonymous,violewntstate.jpg,YHoaJ4KjeviXRioBAC8agw==,US,,1491127451 119184405,119202086,2017-04-02 10:04:40,,,Anonymous,thankswhitey.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,US,,1491127480 119184405,119202101,2017-04-02 10:04:46,">>119201887 That only applies to your property. Society is bigger than your house and under capitalism degeneracy is profitable.",,Anonymous,23.jpg,LkdvG7gBlwCB7gbD2+qgTg==,US,,1491127486 119184405,119202124,2017-04-02 10:05:00,,,Anonymous,statist.jpg,zlzXBa0OycDi0fvviZul0A==,US,,1491127500 119184405,119202356,2017-04-02 10:07:22,">>119202101 Then choose to live with other people who don't want degenerates on their property. There's no reason you can't make money off of degens and not live with them. pic related>>119190372",,Anonymous,physicallyremoveed.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,US,,1491127642 119184405,119202462,2017-04-02 10:08:27,,,Anonymous,spoonerbased.jpg,NFjW526h7GH6TbPQ+5/SfA==,US,,1491127707 119184405,119202689,2017-04-02 10:10:31,">>119202462 Might makes right.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491127831 119184405,119202788,2017-04-02 10:11:34,">>119202101 only leftist egalitarianism provides the assistence they need to sustain their faggotry. mixed with capitalism you can surely profit from degeneracy. once we purge the leftists and segregate them from our communities we can profit from them all want knowing they produce nothing themselves and can't sustain a healthy community.",,Anonymous,augusto-pinochet-3.jpg,xpa9fY2csFPv4uIXQ2k+xQ==,US,,1491127894 119184405,119202792,2017-04-02 10:11:35,,,Anonymous,1490567655144.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,DE,,1491127895 119184405,119202963,2017-04-02 10:13:29,">>119202788 It can't sustain a healthy community in today's world either. Capitalism/capitalists doesn't care about healthy communities so long as they can peddle drugs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491128009 119184405,119202990,2017-04-02 10:13:43,"Remember government actually exists firstly to protect the investments of the elite from deprecating at to fast of a rate. Do you actually think those with the scale of investment funds necessary for R&D on stuff like cold fusion are going to invest in it when they are the same people tied up in maintaining the value of billions of dollars of assets already invested in the oil industry? Banks aren't going to give loans to those that will destroy more of their already invested funds than create new. Capitalism worked so well in the past because big innovations didn't require billions of dollars of capitalization to make radical progress. Anyone with investments don't want innovation because it will hurt them financially, capitalism in its decadent phase must stop development and innovation because it destroys value... ""anarcho-capitalism"" would just result in violent syndicates that would sabotage any innovation at any cost.",,Anonymous,Laughing_Marx.jpg,XTDxNBL5vt7p+n5fSAE8ww==,CA,,1491128023 119184405,119203018,2017-04-02 10:14:10,">>119202689 Pen is mightier than the sword.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491128050 119184405,119203077,2017-04-02 10:14:51,"If you get a chance listen to Bastiat's ""The Law"" essay. He was dealing with the same socialist bullshit in his time that we are dealing with now. If we have to have a government, which is not necessary for laws as I'm sure you are all aware, it should not seek to take from anyone or give to anyone else. He praised the US for having laws that protected freedom and property, but those were the early days and I'm sure he'd be very sad about what he would see today",,Anonymous,lawtiat-quote-picture.jpg,avHwjph77gdRpQx5t2g7DQ==,US,,1491128091 119184405,119203188,2017-04-02 10:15:59,">>119203018 The pen merely changes where the sword swings",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491128159 119184405,119203298,2017-04-02 10:17:04,">>119202689 not even remotely what spooner was about. His whole gripe was with the ""social contract"" and the validity of the Constitution after the generation that wrote it. He was a reconstruction era American thinking. Very anti state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491128224 119184405,119203377,2017-04-02 10:17:47,">>119202990 Then people will found an alternate corporation that does the r&d, offers better products for better or the same prices and outcompete all the other corporations.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491128267 119184405,119203424,2017-04-02 10:18:13,More Based-tiat,,Anonymous,bastiatongover.jpg,jKQIgPYgE/NdZoSiz+MzRg==,US,,1491128293 119184405,119203505,2017-04-02 10:19:01,">>119202963 so whats the problem? >sell drugs to outcasted degenerate tribe >they either die off from drug abuse or live long enough to keep our non-degenerate people fed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491128341 119184405,119203638,2017-04-02 10:20:33,">>119203188 The sword kills your customers and shrinks the labor market., What's the point of that?",,Anonymous,ludwig-von-mises-606864.jpg,1TAyYM8p9heTkScoTSRH1Q==,US,,1491128433 119184405,119203801,2017-04-02 10:22:14,">>119203638 A) you fucked up the metaphor B) if you want a giant labor market so badly go move to china",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491128534 119184405,119204037,2017-04-02 10:24:41,">>119203505 The problem is our current communist democracy forces us to integrate and tolerate their degenerate bullshit. Bring forth ancapistan now! Fuck those commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491128681 119184405,119204063,2017-04-02 10:24:53,">>119203188 My point, exactly.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491128693 119184405,119204129,2017-04-02 10:25:35,nice hoppeposting so to speak,,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1491128735 119184405,119204165,2017-04-02 10:25:57,/r/ing helicopterwave,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491128757 119184405,119204176,2017-04-02 10:26:04,">>119202963 If you care about rehabbing druggies, then go ahead and spend your money on it. There is nothing that precludes charities in a voluntary capitalist arrangement. There is an economic interest to be certain that anti-social cretins do not grow in number so it does make sense to dedicate some resources to keeping them dieing in the streets, but no one is going to put a gun in your face and tell you stop doing drugs if that is what you want to do. In a free society you are responsible for your behaviour. This is something Bastiat also discusses in his essay. You get to feel the full freedom of your body and the full weight of the responsibility of your actions. Why would a government be responsible for insulating you from that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491128764 119184405,119204245,2017-04-02 10:26:43,">>119203505 >whats wrong with degeneracy destruction of civilization",,Anonymous,1304783085843.jpg,aCZQEjnsrv86Y2qAdx7fJg==,US,,1491128803 119184405,119204325,2017-04-02 10:27:36,,,Anonymous,communist spy.png,ZGIA75579yhg6xAyhnjMrQ==,US,,1491128856 119184405,119204332,2017-04-02 10:27:39,">>119204063 when you can block the sword with a pen let me know",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491128859 119184405,119204408,2017-04-02 10:28:31,">>119204332 communist spy (helicopter noises in background)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491128911 119184405,119204475,2017-04-02 10:29:18,>>119204325,,Anonymous,1490721588544.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,DE,,1491128958 119184405,119204493,2017-04-02 10:29:31,">>119191188 no",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491128971 119184405,119204531,2017-04-02 10:29:52,">>119184405 I'm back bros >>119203077 Bastiat is one the reasons I'm proud being french,he blown the fuck out Proudhon and made him throwing one the biggest tantrum ever seen in history,truly a great man with Comte,Tocqueville and Dunnoyer",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491128992 119184405,119204546,2017-04-02 10:30:04,">>119204245 of course, which is why we shouldn't tolerate their shit in a capitalist society. what aren't you getting?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491129004 119184405,119204553,2017-04-02 10:30:07,Do ancaps believe in borders and countries?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491129007 119184405,119204580,2017-04-02 10:30:26,,,Anonymous,lewylewylewy.jpg,Z2SuJdfDniRKQwPkOeJ8tA==,US,,1491129026 119184405,119204604,2017-04-02 10:30:42,">>119192936 Liechtenstein is currently libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491129042 119184405,119204666,2017-04-02 10:31:22,">>119204553 the private ones",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491129082 119184405,119204756,2017-04-02 10:32:26,">Be ancap >Foreigners invade >All loyalties are bought out >No resistance >Foreigners tax you to death Congrats nigger, you played yourself. All forms of anarchism are just creative ways to commit suicide.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491129146 119184405,119204816,2017-04-02 10:33:10,">>119204553 Borders yes, countries would be replaced with smaller communities. we like being able to secede from larger unions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491129190 119184405,119204843,2017-04-02 10:33:24,">>119203377 Corporations only exist because of the state, government grants you limited liability without a government you'll be held to be fully liable making investments even harder to raise. I am using cold fusion as an example because it would destroy hundreds of billions of dollars already invested in oil rigs and such, powerful interests are not going to just let their investments become worthless. Innovation destroys value and sabotage is the way to stop it. Good luck not getting assassinated in your utopia when you actually figure something that will hurt the elites rate of return. Anarcho-crapitalists have a naive understanding of how real business enterprise works, let alone anything about how production works. Business and government form a symbiotic relationship.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491129204 119184405,119204974,2017-04-02 10:35:00,">>119204553 Not as you might recognize them. Most visions I think create many smaller communities that basically share security interests. So you wouldn't have nations, but the size of the arrangement would vary based on how people would want to live. Some would be towns, or cities. I can't imagine anything bigger than a county before interests became too conflicted to be agreeable with enough people",,Anonymous,hazlit.jpg,Fjxt1tzx69hLSbG8/0ZNSA==,US,,1491129300 119184405,119205029,2017-04-02 10:35:35,">>119204756 You want defence? I do too. So we agree that if the government wasn't taking our money to pay for defence that we'd simply buy defence?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491129335 119184405,119205074,2017-04-02 10:36:14,">>119204531 French are bro tier Freedom lovers. Big fan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491129374 119184405,119205076,2017-04-02 10:36:14,">>119205029 wow you two are going to buy defence, guess I dont need to",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491129374 119184405,119205176,2017-04-02 10:37:24,">>119204553 Bump",,Anonymous,MajesticShyGreatwhiteshark.webm,1jnhzE8/U9uDnd0qe2Zypg==,US,,1491129444 119184405,119205183,2017-04-02 10:37:28,">>119205076 Then you won't be defended. But you will, because you want to be, along with everybody else.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491129448 119184405,119205295,2017-04-02 10:38:42,">>119204756 >>Be ancap >>Foreigners invade >used private insurence companies to defend your land >they get btfo >insurence company make stats for knowing the incentive for invading your land >mainly niggers >they share this info to others companies like banks share informations about bad credits >the best defense insurence encourage to their clients to discriminate subhumans for profit >ethnostate without state achieved",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491129522 119184405,119205305,2017-04-02 10:38:47,">>119205076 You might want to go in on a contract with them. Such defense as one would buy from a security/insurance company would be a very specific contract regarding what was protected and what was not going to protected. It would likely no include you or your things so you would be responsible for your own defense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491129527 119184405,119205345,2017-04-02 10:39:17,">>119204553 Yes",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491129557 119184405,119205453,2017-04-02 10:40:34,,,Anonymous,rothbradtaxes.jpg,fvM+ntAxcVlyq379XrOXjg==,US,,1491129634 119184405,119205482,2017-04-02 10:40:51,">>119205183 >>119205305 nah you suckers are already defending the neighborhood why would I waste my money",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491129651 119184405,119205626,2017-04-02 10:42:16,">>119205453 is it just me or is libertarianism echoing?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491129736 119184405,119205640,2017-04-02 10:42:22,">>119205482 We're not defending the neighborhood. We're just defending our stuff. If vagrants decided to break into houses. Yours would go undefended.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491129742 119184405,119205689,2017-04-02 10:42:53,">>119205074 not today,mainly trotsyist cunts now kill me",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491129773 119184405,119205725,2017-04-02 10:43:19,">>119204974 Don't you think that people naturally try to expand and grow the territory they control/live in. That's why empires formed. If you are powerful and the country next to you isn't. One thing leads to another",,Anonymous,Punch_Rhodes_Colossus.png,NcUXqNQYhryh19516aJhNg==,US,,1491129799 119184405,119205739,2017-04-02 10:43:30,,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,QohK4xkwv7OjvTtlRu1HNA==,US,,1491129810 119184405,119205750,2017-04-02 10:43:40,">>119205640 we were talking about foreign invasion my reading averse burgerfriend",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491129820 119184405,119205773,2017-04-02 10:43:52,">>119204843 When there's a demand, there's going to be R&D for alternative energies or technologies. It's as easy as that. The scenario you're describing is literally what we have now: >what you can't reap now, you can't reap later When the corporations are held accountable for their own actions, services and products they'll do hell of a lot to match the demands of the costumers. Because otherwise they'll go bankrupt. The reason this is not the case today is because of government pumping billions into those corporations, preventing them from going under because the governments are the biggest investors and can take the stolen money of the citizens to sustain that behavior. And for that, it doesn't fucking matter if you already invested billions into an outdated technology. The moment you are actually, and without any ""outside"" help, held accountable, you're going to fucking invest in cold fusion or solar energy if the people don't want their environment fucked up. Even better, if you resist and go ahead as you just did - and even killing people, sabotaging etc. - you'll be fucked up for massive NAP violations. That's not a naive view, it's a realistic one.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491129832 119184405,119205847,2017-04-02 10:44:47,Reminder that Pinochet was controlled by JEWS,,Anonymous,pinocho.jpg,ftILthvKIaSMRvL7W58bIw==,PL,,1491129887 119184405,119205884,2017-04-02 10:45:18,">>119205773 *go ahead with the pollution and the destruction",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491129918 119184405,119205977,2017-04-02 10:46:09,">>119205725 Then how do you explain the existence of small countries? If what you say is true then there should only be a handful of large nations on the map. What you posit as inevitable doesn't appear to be the case based on the map of the world. Monaco for example is barely the size of Rhode Island. It's still there. Eastern Europe still a pile of small ass nations in spite of Russian ambitions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491129969 119184405,119205988,2017-04-02 10:46:14,">>119205482 That's not how funding works. If a defence firm isn't funded, there's no defence. And depending on how the specific firm chooses to operate, they might not defend you at all. You can throw hypotheticals around but there's absolutely nothing wrong or inefficient about free, competitive, private defence. It would operate identically to our current system of defence, only with more accountability due to the direct democracy of purchasing power and the total dependence of firms on consumer demand.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491129974 119184405,119206149,2017-04-02 10:47:53,">>119205988 so if I dont pay for this defence agency they will let a foreign country invade my house?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491130073 119184405,119206182,2017-04-02 10:48:14,">>119205847 You realize that the helicopter memes are just that, memes. Right ?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491130094 119184405,119206262,2017-04-02 10:49:09,">>119205847 >long-lasting socioeconomical damage >highest HDI in South America hmmmm",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491130149 119184405,119206405,2017-04-02 10:50:33,">>119205977 Because of the ""balance"" of today's world, yea small countries exist. We're not allowed to take over other places because it's naughty. But, think back to pre 1950. There were several times where Europe was controlled by 4 or 5 huge states and a couple protectorates or vassals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491130233 119184405,119206499,2017-04-02 10:51:34,">>119206182 memes are real germanbro. Long live helicopter removal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491130294 119184405,119206510,2017-04-02 10:51:41,">>119206149 Again, just think about how defence works in your country. If you don't fund the police, your home won't be defended by police. If you don't fund a border, your country won't be defended either. You keep on asking questions that prove my point, because you're saying that you have demand for these things. And everybody else does, which is why everyone would buy them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491130301 119184405,119206533,2017-04-02 10:51:57,">>119205750 You specifically listed the ""neighborhood"" as your defense concern. This is how all communists seem to devolve in this discussion. ""Well I'll just invade your little ass nation."" This is assuming that the collective security interest of the swath of free ass people in the area are not interested in resisting you. I think they would be and they'd be very good at it. Any nation is susceptible to invasion regardless of ideology. It is a non argument to suggest that ""I could just simply kill you."" Sure and me and all my Ancap friends could get a bug up our ass about your aggressive nation and focus our recreational nukes on your shitty gommunist country and just build some sweet irradiated beach front property where your gulag state used to be. This is why pre-emptively throwing you out of a helicopter is not a frowned upon practice",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491130317 119184405,119206681,2017-04-02 10:53:38,">>119206510 Well if they let a foreign country invade my house, won't that foreign country just keep invading everyone that doesn't have a defence agency in place? Maybe a bit like israel & palestine?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491130418 119184405,119206826,2017-04-02 10:55:13,">>119206533 instead of a rambling about how tough you are and strawmanning me just read the post chain next time",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491130513 119184405,119206844,2017-04-02 10:55:22,">>119206405 Even then there were small states. Europe is a small place. Look at the principalities that existed before Germany existed. There's no reason to believe that even a large number of small autonomous interests would be able to collectively resist invasion. Switzerland for example is very decentralized into Cantons and have yet to be wiped off the map and they've existed through all of those wars.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491130522 119184405,119206854,2017-04-02 10:55:28,">>119205773 >When there's a demand, there's going to be R&D for alternative energies or technologies. Demand is a meaningless abstract category... the only thing that matters under capitalism is effective demand. If you don't have the money to put up front what you demand has no effect on anything. So you have to take wealth distribution into account, since ancaps are goldbugs you have to wonder who is going to be sitting on the most gold to command societies labour and resources. The elites are going to be making investment decisions and it will be calculating how to protect their interests. Modern innovation requires massive capitalization, to make innovations in energy production you need hundreds of billions of dollars to pay labour to research and construct equipment. You won't get that scale of investment because those that have that scale of wealth to invest are interested in preserving their investments in other industries. Banks aren't going to give you loans if your going to destroy more old wealth than generate new. Oil is a very profitable industry but cold fusion would be cheap since it would be in abundance.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491130528 119184405,119206993,2017-04-02 10:56:50,">>119206262 Would be even higher without the temporary echoey cia chimp out.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491130610 119184405,119207285,2017-04-02 10:59:57,">>119206993 nope,if the coup worked so well is because Allende was incompetent with the parliament,the army and the economy,getting rid of him was easy because he fucked up and Pinochet saved the day",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491130797 119184405,119207419,2017-04-02 11:01:17,">>119206826 Your initial argument was one based on what amounts to herd inoculation when your neighbors buy in to security contracts to protect the neighborhood you would not yourself have to buy in because their security would protect you. Starting here>>119205076 and continued here>>119205482 At which point I suggested their security interests would not protect you in the way you seem to think they would. At this point you move the goal post to include ""invasion"" >>119205750 which was the predictable outcome of just about any communist trying to justify their utterly shit ideology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491130877 119184405,119207421,2017-04-02 11:01:18,">>119206681 When someone doesn't pay taxes, does national defence disappear? It's very simple, you pay a defence firm to defend your house and another firm (or the same firm) to defend your border. It's exactly the same as regular defence. Depending on how firms choose to operate (based on demand), if you choose not to fund defence you will either: continue to be protected as other people pay for your defence, cease being personally protected, cease being protected at all if nobody else is funding, or you will be deported. All of these things depend on the contract you have with the defence firms. Now how are any of these arrangements impossible? We both want defence, everybody wants it. So what makes you believe that everybody in the world would be hopelessly wishing that they had defence whilst choosing not to buy it?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491130878 119184405,119207458,2017-04-02 11:01:41,">>119204974 Thanks for the response thats actually very interesting. I dont think im full blown ancap but I do think commies should be physically removed no questions asked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491130901 119184405,119207671,2017-04-02 11:03:51,">>119207458 They say the difference between a Minarchist and an Ancap is 6 months. Just give it some reading.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491131031 119184405,119207784,2017-04-02 11:05:05,">>119207458 minarchist ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491131105 119184405,119207851,2017-04-02 11:05:45,">>119206854 The oil industry is only profitable because it's government protected - not least because it backs the fucking currency. My argument holds. When the market demands clean/ecologic/effective technologies you better research and produce or offer them or you're going down. Because the market will not care if your family name is Rothshild or Bush or whatever the fuck. The market - the people - only cares if your product is effective and, in case of oil/gas, doesn't destroy the environment in first place for example.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491131145 119184405,119208029,2017-04-02 11:07:29,">>119207784 The function of Criminal Justice remains in a state apparatus, while everything else goes private is probably my best read on it. The trouble being the state still has a monopoly on violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491131249 119184405,119208083,2017-04-02 11:07:59,">>119207419 >>119204756 >>119207421 >We both want defence, everybody wants it. So what makes you believe that everybody in the world would be hopelessly wishing that they had defence whilst choosing not to buy it? I dont want to waste my money, since you suckers are going to essentially cover my national defense budget I get to keep that money.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491131279 119184405,119208149,2017-04-02 11:08:39,">>119198602 >If you collect tax, it's not voluntary anymore False. I would only collect taxes from people who would choose to live within my domain. Nobody would be forced to live their and anybody who wanted to leave would be allowed to do so. Money collected through taxation would be used to build infrastructure to make my country more attractive so more people would want to live there, voluntarily of course.",,Anonymous,Garlic bread.jpg,C1ePkp13ppRVQhLQFHNcaQ==,US,,1491131319 119184405,119208154,2017-04-02 11:08:42,">>119184405 https://discord.gg/CVBU4Rp",,AryanWarrior666,,,US,,1491131322 119184405,119208179,2017-04-02 11:08:56,">>119208029 I recommend you the machinery of freedom so you could get how private courts would work",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491131336 119184405,119208257,2017-04-02 11:09:45,">large multinational takes over all local businesses >lowers pay dramatically and strips all benefits What exactly is to stop this from happening? Don't tell me that you can just leave, considering how ancap societies would seem to be set up, that would be a fast ticket to dying of dehydration in a week or being shot for being homeless.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491131385 119184405,119208298,2017-04-02 11:10:01,">>119207285 Allende did well with but ended up getting jewed out by US as usually happens with stable and growing economies in the region. Just one more addition to the pic btw, Chile's unemployment went from 4 % in 1973 to 22 % in 1983.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491131401 119184405,119208435,2017-04-02 11:11:22,">>119200341 >Taxes are never voluntary You agreed to the taxes by choosing to move to my country, and you would have been informed of what taxes were required when you went through the process of applying for citizenship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491131482 119184405,119208486,2017-04-02 11:11:53,">>119184405 LOL, 4chan manchildrens thinking they matter. Socialism is coming and there is no stopping it. Now clean your rooms! You're disgusting little nothings.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491131513 119184405,119208545,2017-04-02 11:12:34,">>119205295 >he believes private insurance companies will defend him Follow frog check out how italian cities managed to defend themselves by using mercenaries Follow frog did you read Machiavel ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491131554 119184405,119208589,2017-04-02 11:12:58,">>119208154 cant even get through the fucking captcha",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491131578 119184405,119208619,2017-04-02 11:13:16,">>119208149 So you say pay or gtfo. And what when you need more ? Do you raise tax just like that ? You'd have to violate the voluntariness principle or people leave in. Then you've got nothing and your infrastructure goes to shit. Congratulations. In order to prevent that you'd need to enforce tax through violence. Which makes it utterly non-voluntary again.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491131596 119184405,119208651,2017-04-02 11:13:29,">>119208298 that's because of the oil crashin 1979,with Allende it would be the same,but worse",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491131609 119184405,119208821,2017-04-02 11:15:13,">>119208257 Please respond.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491131713 119184405,119208951,2017-04-02 11:16:21,">>119207851 Honestly the more I read about you guys the more I am convinced that anarcho-capitalism is no different than communism. It works on theory but not in reality. If it was applied it will fail miserably and the country will disintegrate or transform back to a form of government like the old city-state",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491131781 119184405,119209160,2017-04-02 11:18:19,">>119208545 t.don't know how businesses work Yes I've rode the Prince,and in his time the market wasn't as evolved as now (we talk about a pre-industrial age)and I'm talking about insurences,not random PCM",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491131899 119184405,119209234,2017-04-02 11:19:05,">>119208545 Machiavelli actually spent of a good chunk of his book ranting about how mercenaries are unreliable. >>119208619 The citizenship papers would include a clause saying that I can choose to raise or lower taxes as necessary, but also that citizens/residents would be informed of any potential change in tax policy at least 1.5 years in advance so they are able to plan accordingly. You'd have to agree to this as a condition for applying for permanent residence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491131945 119184405,119209456,2017-04-02 11:21:50,">>119208951 >ancap >caring about a government you don't get it what ancap mean or ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491132110 119184405,119209523,2017-04-02 11:22:32,">>119208083 And we're back to the start....even the communists wanted to ""distance"" themselves from the freeloaders, but such people will always exist regardless of social arrangement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491132152 119184405,119209591,2017-04-02 11:23:16,">>119208821 they don't want to admit it, but this will undoubtedly lead to an archaic form of government to avoid the millions kind of problems like this one that will merge. And from this you will end up with either feudalism, a republic..etc lmao",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491132196 119184405,119209745,2017-04-02 11:25:06,">>119208179 A good example of private courts and arbitration was actually when California courts were overwhelmed at one point and they sent a pile of cases to arbitration, which was a bunch of retired judges in private practices. Bryan Caplan talked about it on the Rubin Report a week or so ago.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491132306 119184405,119209760,2017-04-02 11:25:16,">>119209523 no congratulation for defeating his point? I made him contradict himself and admit ancapistan will be underfunded and vulnerable in terms of national defense.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491132316 119184405,119209894,2017-04-02 11:26:31,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Libertarianism as a movement has suffered greatly from a leftist invasion and we must to purge them from our ranks. They have contaminated every corner of libertarianism with communist filth. True libertarianism is a philosophy of non-intervention. In contrast leftist “freedom” is defined as non-hierarchy. They deny the voluntary actions of man to form hierarchical structures and so obviously they must intervene using coercion and violence to collapse these natural structures in order to bring forth egalitarianism. We understand that these ideas cannot coexist with each other and that as long as egalitarian thought prevails as a mainstream ideology true freedom lovers will be labeled as evil fascists and something to be eradicated from society. This is what passes as libertarianism today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_toYr_Hcdo&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVKDbpYQTa0 Libertarianism does not equal open borders, multiculturalism, or universal inclusivity. We must make it clear that this is leftist subversion and communist trash. We must not tolerate egalitarianism is any shape or form, especially within our own movement. These people are mistaken in thinking that non-aggression means that good people will tolerate and even willingly support their destructive behavior. They use this line of bullshit under our name and poison our movement, making us entirely ineffective. Every effort to bring true libertarian ideas to the table is shouted at: STATISTS! FASCISTS! RACISTS! This is an ACT OF AGGRESSION to undermine our movement. We MUST defend ourselves or there will be NO LIBERTARIAN FUTURE. When you’re crushing the communists windpipe under your boot and they gasp “Are you an anarchist or a fascist?” You must loudly proclaim “I AM WHAT IS NECESSARY TO SECURE MY FREEDOM AND PREVENT TYRANNY.”",,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1491132391 119184405,119210015,2017-04-02 11:27:49,">>119209745 Cool, but I'm sure that California also made sure that all the important criminal cases were still being done directly by the government. You limit the scope of government involvement in some cases but you can never completely eliminate it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491132469 119184405,119210071,2017-04-02 11:28:28,">>119208257 profit more people-more money also > considering how ancap societies would seem to be set up, that would be a fast ticket to dying of dehydration in a week or being shot for being homeless. since water is a scarce ressource it will only work if we ran out of water",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491132508 119184405,119210108,2017-04-02 11:28:49,">>119209234 >Machiavelli actually spent of a good chunk of his book ranting about how mercenaries are unreliable. Yes that was my point, relaying on lucrative companies for your security is highly risky",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491132529 119184405,119210128,2017-04-02 11:28:59,">>119209234 I see the point. But you're not able to plan 1.5 years ahead. You usually can't even plan 2 months ahead. This is nonsense desu. Let's say it isn't, then most sane people will just show you the finger and go somewhere else, because - in case it's through a contract - like that, you're somewhere free to simply raise tax by 500%, because you know what ? I want a fucking nuke. No offset period will people accept that at all. >>119208951 Unlike systems like communism, ancapism is not implemented in a matter of months or years. Furthermore, in ancapism there are no universally governed countries. I suggest you read some of our ressources. Start off with ""Anatomy of the State"" of Rothbard and go ahead with ""Democracy - The God that Failed"" by Hoppe. Or you do pic related if you want Hoppe exclusively >>119209591 Bullshit. Straight out bullshit.",,Anonymous,1490563413200.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,DE,,1491132539 119184405,119210356,2017-04-02 11:31:22,">>119210108 wait are you saying our ancapistan PMCs might follow their natural profit motive and sell out to a foreign nation?!",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491132682 119184405,119210377,2017-04-02 11:31:31,">>119208257 Your concern is about monopoly which is largely dependant on government defending it from competition (oil,internet, and cable are great example of current government subsidized monopolies. If its there it won't last long. People would stop working for this conglomerate if conditions warranted it and other businesses would just undercut it where it isn't competitive. Your ISP for example could be undercut by local broadband if your local government didn't make it so difficult to compete in that arena. Even if someone were to monopolize a water supply you could just buy elsewhere, people already buy bottled water for example.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491132691 119184405,119210594,2017-04-02 11:33:43,">>119210356 >there's only one private security provider >there's only one private army around",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491132823 119184405,119210804,2017-04-02 11:36:02,">>119210594 shit that would suck if they pit them against each other, or if they just had natural conflicts over profit and since they have localized monopolies of violence they might just turn into gang warfare",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491132962 119184405,119210840,2017-04-02 11:36:26,">>119210128 >Furthermore, in ancapism there are no universally governed countries. What? you mean every country needs to be ancap? That's like how human population were in the start, and look what did happen: city-state, monarchies, empire...etc all swallowed the one that didn't have a form of government",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491132986 119184405,119210860,2017-04-02 11:36:39,">>119208435 That applies only to people who moved there but not to people who were born in your country and inherited their parents property",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491132999 119184405,119210915,2017-04-02 11:37:19,"What do you guys think of libertarian/free market Monarchism/Imperialism? Is it sustainable? History says yes, but applying it to a nation today seems strange. I do think that it could work, though.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1491133039 119184405,119210979,2017-04-02 11:38:00,">>119210128 >But you're not able to plan 1.5 years ahead Nigga wut. You think governments can't plan further than 1.5 years? >then most sane people will just show you the finger and go somewhere else And that would be their right. It's completely voluntary. But plenty of people would still agree to it for the sake of mutual security and also so that they can benefit from the infrastructure I'm building. >you're somewhere free to simply raise tax by 500% No, because if I did that people would just move out. I would have to gradually raise taxes as my country becomes more attractive. Think of it like rent. If you're renting out some dusty old shack, you can't charge very much rent because nobody would willingly pay it. But if you're renting a luxury villa then you can charge a lot more because everybody will want to live there. Same would apply to my country. In the early days, taxes would be very low because there would be few public services. But as infrastructure continues to develop, I can start charging more because more people will want to live there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133080 119184405,119211026,2017-04-02 11:38:27,">>119210804 >>119210356 theleafknows.jpg",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491133107 119184405,119211031,2017-04-02 11:38:31,">>119210377 You could buy it somewhere else, but the example I'm giving is basically of a giant multinational company with near unlimited funds purchasing nearly everything in a local area. It seems like the only practical solution would be to move away, which for many wouldn't be something they could do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133111 119184405,119211051,2017-04-02 11:38:42,">>119210915 Something along the lines of Liechtenstein, and to a lesser extent, the UK without all the statism.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1491133122 119184405,119211186,2017-04-02 11:40:06,">>119210015 Hoppe has a good speech on what a private law society might look like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEQmuaJeew Keep in mind a lot of what California considers to be ""illegal"" would not necessarily be a violation of the NAP or someone else's private property rights in an Ancap society. Drug use for example would never make it to a court because it's not illegal to hurt yourself as long as you don't harm others. What you're talking about is that last little bit of statism that people hang on to. What constitutes an ""important"" case reserved for the state I think can be a diminishing quantity that we can one day eliminate. A state is a dangerous thing to engender and it should be reduced and eliminated wherever it can be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133206 119184405,119211210,2017-04-02 11:40:17,">>119210840 >That's like how human population were in the start nope,during the early humans we had what Engels called ''primitive socialism'',there was no property rights (nothing to own) and all was reglemented by the leading tribesmen who killed anybody going against them(which Engels di'nt mentioned,wonder why),your example were just of over-powered tribe leader expanding their territories for power",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491133217 119184405,119211224,2017-04-02 11:40:25,">>119210804 https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over >>119210840 nice strawman",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491133225 119184405,119211266,2017-04-02 11:40:53,">>119184405 He thinks we'll ever step one foot in their choppa",,Anonymous,Che Guevara.jpg,XZ6RpWO4TOjcyzOjG6rFWw==,US,,1491133253 119184405,119211345,2017-04-02 11:41:41,">>119211026 >siding with leafs go to Quebec and never come back",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491133301 119184405,119211429,2017-04-02 11:42:37,">>119184405 Meh, not as good as Fash, but better than commies.",,Anonymous,Zap.jpg,FQ2Co3lFRpNANqv/RqMw1w==,US,,1491133357 119184405,119211438,2017-04-02 11:42:43,,,Anonymous,vcw.png,thN/NXr0rZCHSp6gzpeIwg==,AU,,1491133363 119184405,119211442,2017-04-02 11:42:46,">>119211266 >posting CIA greatest assassination op",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491133366 119184405,119211486,2017-04-02 11:43:19,">>119210071 >>119211031 To clarify, lets say the area where the multinational decided to set up in was a factory town, where they wish a specific resource/product to be produced. They buy every single business within a large radius, decrease wages to borderline unlivable levels, and strip most benefits workers would get as a cost saving measure. Their goal is to force a condition of dependence on the locals, where everything they buy is owned by the company, moving away or getting goods from someone else is inpractical, and they essentially have a captive labor force. What would stop this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133399 119184405,119211506,2017-04-02 11:43:33,">>119211266 I read more Marx last month to brush up than you've read in your entire life. I've read Marx's POETRY. I've read Marx's letters. I've read Marx's articles, I've read articles that Marx didn't even write but edited. I've read more Bakunin than you've read Marx, and one page of Bakunin will teach you more about human suffering than reading the Eye of Argon sober. I've read Engels. I've read Trotsky. I had the terrible lapse in judgment to read Stirner. I started with the Greeks and made it about to Hegel before I had to quit philosophy forever because I was going to sleep every night with a glass of bourbon on my bedstand just in case I woke up wanting to shoot myself. I read Lenin's pedantic explanations for why establishing his totalitarian dictatorship was an essential step in the move towards the abolition of the State, and definitely not just a way to keep him well supplied with roast beef and suckling pig. You know who I haven't read? Hoppe. Friedman. Sowell. Hayek. I sure as fuck have never read Rand. I don't bother exposing myself to right-wing ideology because it's all self evident. I've never had to have a right wing idea explained to me more than once for it to make perfect sense, but I had to read the entire amazon fucking rainforest to come to even the beginnings of understanding the appeal of Communism. I had to broaden my horizons to such an absurd degree that even when I shut it off I don't think democracy is a good idea anymore. My brain is like the floppiest roastie cunt ever battered by BBC on a black sofa, except old bearded Germans were the ones fucking me instead of niggers. I've read Marx, you little faggot. Oh my stars and garters have i read fucking Marx, and it was the most colossal waste of my time I've ever indulged in. Never have I read a more content-free volume than the Communist Manifesto. Das Kapital was at least informative.",,Anonymous,wut.jpg,Pk6itkADj5rP+h7A3NEtVw==,CA,,1491133413 119184405,119211679,2017-04-02 11:45:26,">>119211031 >unlimited funds I'm not convinced a company could get that big without being undercut in the interim. Most companies get big and get in bed with the state to stave of competition. Without barriers to entry into the market I don't think it would survive as the giant humanity destroyer that many seem to fear. The state as it stands is not so different from such a company. It runs a ""protection"" racket and fleeces the population to protect it from enemies it creates so it can justify fleecing the population for still more cash. Run by bureaucrats that ultimately try to secure whatever wealth and power they can while they are in power, which means fleecing the population still further. We have survived this condition so far and I don't think a company with no economic protection from the state would be capable of doing to us what the state already does to us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133526 119184405,119211805,2017-04-02 11:46:47,">>119211224 How is that a strawman? It proves ancap is inferior to statism. You are left only with the socialist argument of getting the entire world to agree to it. >>119211345 go back to r*ddit and take your newfag meme with you",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491133607 119184405,119211848,2017-04-02 11:47:17,">>119211486 >They buy every single business within a large radius you are implying people would sell their company this easily >decrease wages to borderline unlivable levels more workers will die and faster,he just loose labor by doing that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491133637 119184405,119211879,2017-04-02 11:47:36,">>119210860 Children don't typically have sizeable incomes so they usually wouldn't be paying taxes anyway. Their parents would be taxed, not them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133656 119184405,119211982,2017-04-02 11:48:41,">>119211879 I'm talking about the situation when the child is grown up",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491133721 119184405,119211985,2017-04-02 11:48:44,">>119211805 post more about how much you love niggers instead of crying like a bitch leafy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491133724 119184405,119212003,2017-04-02 11:48:51,">>119211210 wait is this the same bullshit marx based communism on that was all completely disproven?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491133731 119184405,119212075,2017-04-02 11:49:32,">>119211679 >multiple companies join together so they can coordinate into a more efficient racket/make more profit/protect themselves from undercutting What would stop this from happening? >it creates so it can justify fleecing the population for still more cash In what way is this different from every single business current existing? They produce their products or services solely for the acquisition of money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133772 119184405,119212105,2017-04-02 11:49:48,">>119211805 >see my strawman >it proves your idea is inferior You're a fucking moron",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491133788 119184405,119212210,2017-04-02 11:50:55,">>119211985 >post more about how much you love niggers instead of crying like a bitch leafy what a terrible non-sequitur truly reddit tier originality, how does it feel being lower than a horsefucker? >>119212105 how is it wrong then?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491133855 119184405,119212263,2017-04-02 11:51:19,">>119211679 >Without barriers to entry into the market There are plenty of industries which have natural barriers to entry other than those imposed by governments. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/natural_monopoly.asp",,Anonymous,Monopoly.png,oask06sgZ6B5lCKBQZWZng==,US,,1491133879 119184405,119212270,2017-04-02 11:51:26,">>119192472 >grab social security and medicare >give those monies to niggers and illegals and commie scum Daily reminder that Jews push communism, the ultimate failed philosophy. May they die slowly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133886 119184405,119212291,2017-04-02 11:51:38,">>119211031 >>119212075 They can have all the money in the world, buy all the stores in existence. In order to sustain continued success, they'll still have to play the market. So long as there is potential competition, they can't try any funny shit without getting out-competed. Rockefeller and Carnegie are the common examples hearkened during these discussions, in oil and steel, respectively, they drove the price down ~90% from their time of entry They may have wanted to get monopoly pricing privileges, but they never could because competition was constantly looming. In other words, accepting your outlandish premise yes it is possible. Markets will ensure, regardless, that whatever action they take is valuable to consumers, for they will fail otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133898 119184405,119212311,2017-04-02 11:51:55,">>119211848 >you are implying people would sell their company this easily Most would, when offered the right amount. The hold outs would be undercut and driven out of business. >more workers will die and faster Oh, I'm not talking about ""starvation"" levels. I'm talking about levels that would shave 20-30 years off the average human lifespan, nothing more extreme than that. Reproduction would take care of most attrition, and the children wouldn't have any real other choices on where to work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491133915 119184405,119212328,2017-04-02 11:52:11,">>119212210 Are you just pretending to be retarded now ?",,Anonymous,1490841742729.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,DE,,1491133931 119184405,119212422,2017-04-02 11:53:02,">>119212210 >strawmanning this hard never watched a single ep of MLP but keep pretending,worse than Aussies I swear",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491133982 119184405,119212473,2017-04-02 11:53:38,">>119212311 >I'm talking about levels that would shave 20-30 years still less labor",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491134018 119184405,119212603,2017-04-02 11:54:55,">>119212328 No, why wont you answer? If you accept that prestate was anarchy and all anarchy was wiped out essentially by states then it is a more efficient system in the same way as capitalism vs communism. >>119212422 I said you were lower than a horsefucker not a horsefucker. If you weren't on r/thedonald the last 24 hours you would know why.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491134095 119184405,119212627,2017-04-02 11:55:14,">>119212473 They don't desire to expand, there's only so many jobs available in the factory they want running for the never few hundred years. At that point, wouldn't the population more or less be stable (if living in nightmarish conditions)?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134114 119184405,119212697,2017-04-02 11:56:00,">>119204245 This is why cameras should come with a flamethrower feature. Look at those disgusting nigger animals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134160 119184405,119212820,2017-04-02 11:57:34,">>119211438 working on it, red team is fighting hard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134254 119184405,119212835,2017-04-02 11:57:45,">>119186124 lol yeah because nobody ever hacks or trolls review systems",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134265 119184405,119212866,2017-04-02 11:58:05,">>119193139 I think Hoppe is an important thinker for getting the stupid bigots on the right in on anarcho-capitalism, actually. There might be some hiccups at first with them peacefully transitioning to Ancapistan life, but it shouldn't take them too long to build their precious ethic conclaves and self-segregate from the non-retarded population.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134285 119184405,119212962,2017-04-02 11:59:27,">>119211982 Once a child is only enough to be considered part of the work force, they can choose to go through the membership (citizenship) process or not. This would include the same clause where they agree to pay rent (taxes) on their earnings to help maintain the infrastructure that the nation depends on. If they don't want to do that they're free to move somewhere else. Completely voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134367 119184405,119213044,2017-04-02 12:00:18,">>119212603 make Canadians posts less shit and I would stop calling you a leaf,leaf >>119212627 since they would ""buy all concurrence"" then they have the desire to expand,you just counter-argumented yourself",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491134418 119184405,119213093,2017-04-02 12:00:50,">>119212075 >In what way is this different from every single business current existing? They produce their products or services solely for the acquisition of money. The government does not produce anything in exchange for money. It takes your money and promises to do ""something"" with it. You can choose to to not give your money to a company you cannot choose to not give your money to a state without the threat of violence. >Multi-corp Sure this is possible, but why wouldn't you want a more efficient company. If their quality falls or prices get too high then people will buy elsewhere. If conditions are too shitty or they don't pay a sustaining wage then people will work elsewhere.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134450 119184405,119213190,2017-04-02 12:01:56,">>119212866 >stupid bigots back to plebbit fag",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491134516 119184405,119213243,2017-04-02 12:02:36,">>119212962 But all of their property is in your fucking country If I have to leave it behind only to escape you taking my property away from me that is violating my exclusive ownership rights over my property and therefore a violation of the NAP",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491134556 119184405,119213272,2017-04-02 12:02:53,">>119212263 Sure such things exist. But even a power company can be undercut by a solar panel on your roof.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134573 119184405,119213387,2017-04-02 12:04:10,">>119211506 >What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know....",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134650 119184405,119213397,2017-04-02 12:04:18,">>119213044 >since they would ""buy all concurrence"" what?",,Anonymous,wha.jpg,WHqekqmRcFCqXQNUOzKekQ==,US,,1491134658 119184405,119213437,2017-04-02 12:04:43,">>119213044 >make Canadians posts less shit and I would stop calling you a leaf,leaf What is with you and the non sequiturs? keep calling anyone leaf you want, you just out yourself as a newfag.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491134683 119184405,119213590,2017-04-02 12:06:14,">>119213093 >The government does not produce anything in exchange for money. The government uses the money to build infrastructure and maintain the national defense force. >you cannot choose to not give your money to a state without the threat of violence. Yes, you can. You have the ability to leave anytime you want. And in a democratic republic like the US, you also have the ability to vote for politicians that will lower taxes if you think they are too high.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134774 119184405,119213610,2017-04-02 12:06:27,">>119212866 Fuck off, you filthy fucking commie rat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134787 119184405,119213623,2017-04-02 12:06:36,">>119210377 In your ISP example, it's difficult for local broadbands to compete because it's difficult to lay broadband wire across already developed infrastructure. You have to rip up roads and shit. It's not b/c the gov't makes it difficult thru regulation, unless you think a law preventing ""small business broadband owners"" from ripping up the goddamn roads and not paying for it is an unwarranted regulation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491134796 119184405,119213660,2017-04-02 12:07:00,">>119213397 >>119211486 >They buy every single business within a large radius if they do that,they expand themselves,but then you said >>119212627 >they don't desire to expand don't try to backpedal",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491134820 119184405,119213911,2017-04-02 12:09:50,">>119213437 >if you are a true oldfag you don't use recent memes sorry to trigger you :^),keep pretending being in a secret club",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491134990 119184405,119214051,2017-04-02 12:11:20,">>119213911 >still responding to the trollfag",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491135080 119184405,119214224,2017-04-02 12:13:11,">>119213911 wtf I love open borders now. reddit welcome to 4chan >>119214051 >can't defend your argument >stop trolling me",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491135191 119184405,119214394,2017-04-02 12:15:03,">>119214224 >wtf I love open borders now. reddit welcome to 4chan wow you proofs of me being a newfag is a fucking meme,you are surely a very good analyst,correlation means causation everyone knows that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491135303 119184405,119214456,2017-04-02 12:15:44,"new bread >>119214225 >>119214225 >>119214225",,Anonymous,1490574097993.png,xrpudr8YYVD3YlC4rB7E6w==,DE,,1491135344 119184405,119214466,2017-04-02 12:15:50,">>119213590 > implying government spending my money is giving my something > implying government owns my property and not me > implying USG won't still tax my income if I physically remove myself from territory > implying freedom to perform stupid voting ritual means I have choice in whether I pay taxes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491135350 119184405,119214614,2017-04-02 12:17:29,">>119213590 >The government uses the money to build.... The issue I have here is how the government get's its money in the first place. If a gang of thieves came running through your town and took 15%-25% of everyone's income and then left you with a bridge, they still had to steal your money first to build the bridge. There is no reason that private citizens cannot voluntarily fund a road. Some Iowa farmers did it in 1910. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_6_in_Iowa#River-to-River_Road >You have the ability to leave Fleeing from the problem does not fix the problem. I have considered going elsewhere, but for now I'd like to try to make my current situation better. >Your vote matters The enacted will of the mob is still a threat of violence and leads to the fundamental problem of cartel like behavior from the state. A slave is not a free man just because he gets to pick a new master every 4 years. Petitioning the government to steal resources from one part of the population and to transfer it to another is still theft. The government takes your money and gives it to Exxon for example. Is that really what you wanted the government to do with your money? You may have voted against it, but it still happened.,",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491135449 119184405,119214623,2017-04-02 12:17:33,">>119214394 as if anyone who would ever used >le secret club wasn't an obvious newfag",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491135453 119184405,119214983,2017-04-02 12:20:57,">>119213623 They do have such laws and excessive permits and fees associated with the business that the large ISP's lobby for in local governments here is an article on it https://www.wired.com/2013/07/we-need-to-stop-focusing-on-just-cable-companies-and-blame-local-government-for-dismal-broadband-competition/. I don't think the infrastructure problem is so momentous that outside competitors would not go for it. Google for example is still trying in spite of the local regulatory environment",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491135657 119184405,119214998,2017-04-02 12:21:05,">>119187106 >soon you'll switch to one of the most extreme forms of Capitalism to an extreme form of Socialism. Have fun! >being this retarded Leftist detected.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491135665 119184405,119215133,2017-04-02 12:22:35,">>119184405 Oh jeeee",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1491135755 119184405,119215299,2017-04-02 12:24:24,">>119214225 >>119214225 >>119214225 new bread",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491135864 119184405,119215865,2017-04-02 12:30:36,">>119213660 The reason they bought every business within a large radius was to force a condition of dependence on the workers. I think I said that in an earlier post. Basically, in order to acquire a captive labor force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136236 119214225,119214225,2017-04-02 12:13:12,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ [Embed] h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs [Embed] Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A [Embed] Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed] Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU [Embed] I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A [Embed] Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc [Embed] Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Don't Feed The Leafs Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1491135192 119214225,119214283,2017-04-02 12:13:50,,,Anonymous,1490914594067.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,DE,,1491135230 119214225,119214328,2017-04-02 12:14:26,,,Anonymous,1490567525137.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,DE,,1491135266 119214225,119214393,2017-04-02 12:15:03,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491135303 119214225,119214573,2017-04-02 12:17:03,We ain't Johnson-type 420 blaze it fags,,Anonymous,1490784841113.png,0cj87/YtlHkwyisfLCRUVQ==,DE,,1491135423 119214225,119214590,2017-04-02 12:17:16,"Gonna join this one, bros",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491135436 119214225,119214603,2017-04-02 12:17:23,">>119214393 why is your ideology so degenerate?",,Anonymous,1490591823138.jpg,J27e9ph8ugBxpTBeu3Z64g==,US,,1491135443 119214225,119214703,2017-04-02 12:18:17,>>119214603,,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1491135497 119214225,119214802,2017-04-02 12:19:20,">>119214225 reminder that if you are arguing with anybody,you own yourself and so you are for private property which means that communist can't argue with anyone",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491135560 119214225,119214853,2017-04-02 12:19:47,">>119214703 I am afraid that you do not have the power to do that... your arguments must stand on their own here",,Anonymous,3d3e8d64d6aa97f438155f59a06551644d0ebad212ff3f2105ed83413d71934b.jpg,Z42fVLVioudOT9j86X0eng==,US,,1491135587 119214225,119214871,2017-04-02 12:19:55,">>119214603 prove it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491135595 119214225,119214905,2017-04-02 12:20:10,">>119214802 >>119214802",,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU2NjY4NjQ3My5qcGcifQ.jRA9sqm02dUhW5XpJf1z9xHGd00.jpg,pvmnkuUUzHNOvOX6gnelBg==,DE,,1491135610 119214225,119214985,2017-04-02 12:20:58,,,Anonymous,jump-for-trump.jpg,Rcgv+EfMwszcipt/3uNxDQ==,US,,1491135658 119214225,119215052,2017-04-02 12:21:41,">>119214853 >I'm white and afraid of everything usually it's liberals talking about neonazis who are saying that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491135701 119214225,119215097,2017-04-02 12:22:10,>>119214853,,Anonymous,1490844652609.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,DE,,1491135730 119214225,119215206,2017-04-02 12:23:25,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Libertarianism as a movement has suffered greatly from a leftist invasion and we must to purge them from our ranks. They have contaminated every corner of libertarianism with communist filth. True libertarianism is a philosophy of non-intervention. In contrast leftist “freedom” is defined as non-hierarchy. They deny the voluntary actions of man to form hierarchical structures and so obviously they must intervene using coercion and violence to collapse these natural structures in order to bring forth egalitarianism. We understand that these ideas cannot coexist with each other and that as long as egalitarian thought prevails as a mainstream ideology true freedom lovers will be labeled as evil fascists and something to be eradicated from society. This is what passes as libertarianism today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_toYr_Hcdo&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVKDbpYQTa0 Libertarianism does not equal open borders, multiculturalism, or universal inclusivity. We must make it clear that this is leftist subversion and communist trash. We must not tolerate egalitarianism is any shape or form, especially within our own movement. These people are mistaken in thinking that non-aggression means that good people will tolerate and even willingly support their destructive behavior. They use this line of bullshit under our name and poison our movement, making us entirely ineffective. Every effort to bring true libertarian ideas to the table is shouted at: STATISTS! FASCISTS! RACISTS! This is an ACT OF AGGRESSION to undermine our movement. We MUST defend ourselves or there will be NO LIBERTARIAN FUTURE. When you’re crushing the communists windpipe under your boot and they gasp “Are you an anarchist or a fascist?” You must loudly proclaim “I AM WHAT IS NECESSARY TO SECURE MY FREEDOM AND PREVENT TYRANNY.”",,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1491135805 119214225,119215462,2017-04-02 12:26:15,The day of the rotor can't come soon enough,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491135975 119214225,119215490,2017-04-02 12:26:39,"anyone else here NATIONAL lib? I believe in freedom but also I believe we must have strong borders and reject immigrants because in reality 99% of the worlds population does not believe in freedom.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491135999 119214225,119215506,2017-04-02 12:26:51,">>119214871 i would start with a synthesis of Sartre who wrote quite a bit on existentialism.... why did he ultimately say that it should be subservient to Marxism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136011 119214225,119215526,2017-04-02 12:27:01,"I want to write a pamphlet and infographic that explains the merits of the Austrian school and free society. It needs to address common false perceptions. Help me list the best, worst, and most appealing counter-arguments. I'll start Criticisms of Austrian Economics >muh exploitation >muh prejudice >Unequal wealth distribution >No mechanism to regulate boom and bust >Doesn’t allow iteration and fine-tuning of policy based on data >No way to protect consumers >Creates monopolies >muh consumerism Criticisms of Free Society >Roads >People will be at each other’s throats >No protection for the poor >Private law is impossible >Democracy is the least of all evils >Private armies take over >Easy to subvert and naturally gives rise to a new state Feel free to offer criticisms of minarchy and libertarianism as well.",,Anonymous,1483386722305.png,sMsXUgjPg2shXKTv2zHJ4Q==,US,,1491136021 119214225,119215545,2017-04-02 12:27:14,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AIew3RN4R4&feature=youtu.be Peter Schiff taking on the occupy wall street retards. How impressive he didn't just freak out.",,Anonymous,1490567655144.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,DE,,1491136034 119214225,119215566,2017-04-02 12:27:36,">>119215462 hogwash... your movement is degenerate and has no real power",,Anonymous,1490591889714.jpg,dMYTeLW2fu4ofzBVqi5gnA==,US,,1491136056 119214225,119215682,2017-04-02 12:28:50,">>119215506 cognitive bias",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491136130 119214225,119215779,2017-04-02 12:29:47,">>119215566 Where is ancapism degenerate ? By spouting ""DEGENERÄT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"" you're not making an argument. You're just a retard.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491136187 119214225,119215861,2017-04-02 12:30:34,">>119215682 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136234 119214225,119215905,2017-04-02 12:31:02,">>119215779 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136262 119214225,119215933,2017-04-02 12:31:27,">>119213660 The reason they bought every business within a large radius was to force a condition of dependence on the workers. I think I said that in an earlier post. Basically, in order to acquire a captive labor force for a while.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136287 119214225,119216070,2017-04-02 12:32:36,"if lower gov spending and controls 99% GDP be 10x greater with prices 1%",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136356 119214225,119216345,2017-04-02 12:35:28,"Anarcho Capitalism cannot be degenerate, at least not more so than the state. Anarcho Capitalism requires a high amount of social interaction in order to get the benefits of living in society, and social interaction exposes you to judgement from your neighbors. Mutual societies, unions, covenants, all of these features will require people to interact with each other, unlike the current state, which allows you to lock yourself in your basement without any kind of interaction while getting healthcare, social security, work benefits and even welfare. Also, degeneration is destructive, it destroys properties value, with this in mind, and considering most landlords want their properties to maintain value, it's not hard to predict that the most prosperous communities will be those that prevent degeneration in a contractual level.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491136528 119214225,119216359,2017-04-02 12:35:38,Freedom Bump,,Anonymous,1490567419484.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,DE,,1491136538 119214225,119216404,2017-04-02 12:36:10,">>119214603 because ""degeneracy"" is just a buzzword for people doing shit you spergs don't like. If something ""degenerate"" is actually damaging to the fabric of society, market forces and voluntarism will fix it without giving a bunch of goose-stepping retards control over our lives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136570 119214225,119216418,2017-04-02 12:36:18,>>119216345,,Anonymous,1491149228808.jpg,HNpUfAVKCT9mC5Gdu4XRRw==,US,,1491136578 119214225,119216473,2017-04-02 12:36:51,">>119216345 Nicely put",,Anonymous,Hoppe_HomepageHero_20160129_0.jpg,KifoR7Mq/GL42z1lKGmybQ==,DE,,1491136611 119214225,119216641,2017-04-02 12:38:40,">>119216345 capitalism relies on the exploitation of people... aka slavery of some variety... therefore it is degenerate... also... why are you dodging Sartre? Is the time for arguments over?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136720 119214225,119216686,2017-04-02 12:39:07,">>119216404 Noone will have control over your life but you yourself. You're talking about communism you moron",,Anonymous,1490713534644.jpg,XnweBGBJLV0zaU1eNKLVyw==,DE,,1491136747 119214225,119216721,2017-04-02 12:39:26,">>119216641 >b8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136766 119214225,119216762,2017-04-02 12:39:53,>>119216641,,Anonymous,1490805837759.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,DE,,1491136793 119214225,119216946,2017-04-02 12:41:54,">>119216762 so it violates NAP but you weasel around it... hmmm... I think this is maybe another flaw in your system?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136914 119214225,119216982,2017-04-02 12:42:11,">>119215526 autrian economics >muh exploitation working in exchange of a wage is not exploitation,you can negotiate your hours and salary with your boss >muh prejudice laissez faire means ""let them to do"" nothing forces you to have prejudice >Unequal wealth distribution you prefer that the rich get 4000 $ and the poor 2000$ or that the rich get 2000$ and the poor 1000$ (without inflation),because the poor have more opportunities with his money in the first case but the situation is more unequal,you want more poverty ? >No mechanism to regulate boom and bust booms and bust are caused by the interference of the government in the credits and interest rates,one the reason of the 2008 crisis was that the government forced banks to accept bad credits >Doesn’t allow iteration and fine-tuning of policy based on data you can,companies do it for knowing if their product will work or not >No way to protect consumers you do not control others people life >Creates monopolies the government creates more monopolies than the market ie nationalisation >muh consumerism you can still go full survivalist and live in the farms with stockpiles of guns and food",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491136931 119214225,119217017,2017-04-02 12:42:32,">>119216721 again.. .not an argument... if you believe this crap why are you unable to defend it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491136952 119214225,119217065,2017-04-02 12:43:02,">>119216641 >Sartre he fucked with a feminist how is that not degenerate ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491136982 119214225,119217073,2017-04-02 12:43:10,">>119216946 >trying so fucking hard",,Anonymous,1490959968212.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,DE,,1491136990 119214225,119217096,2017-04-02 12:43:24,">>119216641 >aka slavery of some variety If you re-define slavery as something that's not slavery at all, sure man. Just use ""of some kind"" and everything will adapt to your definitions, right? >therefore it is degenerate Premise is wrong, therefore conclusion is wrong >why are you dodging Sartre? Because Sartre wrote a million things, might have to be a bit more concrete if you want actual discussion about Sartre.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491137004 119214225,119217181,2017-04-02 12:44:14,">>119217065 I prefer to focus on his philosophy rather than his personal life? Isn't existentialism important to you theory?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137054 119214225,119217185,2017-04-02 12:44:18,">>119216762 I understand that's a meme image, but that's still dumb and full of holes. >group of people decide by consensus that the property they're on is now a communal thing >property owner agrees >tells everyone who disagrees to get off his land >once everyone who could have possibly had their rights violated is gone, property owner dissolves his ownership of it and gives it to everyone there",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137058 119214225,119217227,2017-04-02 12:44:41,">>119217073 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137081 119214225,119217388,2017-04-02 12:46:19,">>119217181 >Isn't existentialism important to you theory? nice strawman it was never been the case,our ideas are closer to stoicism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491137179 119214225,119217452,2017-04-02 12:47:07,">>119217185 The situation you describe is only viable if the contract between landlord and tenants states that degree of democracy prior to the expulsion. Landlord would not be able to change the contract at will.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491137227 119214225,119217602,2017-04-02 12:48:49,">>119217452 >landlord would not be able to change the contract at will No, but he would be able to evict anyone he wants. Most places have a sort of vague ""Rule X"" built in that lets them get rid of people if they need to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137329 119214225,119217902,2017-04-02 12:51:57,">>119217602 >but he would be able to evict anyone he wants And do you honestly believe this is a good business practice? The market would offer plenty of solutions that wouldn't be as draconian and abusive as this specific landlord, and this landlord would eventually need to sell his land because of getting 1 star in CovenantBNB™ over and over.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491137517 119214225,119217940,2017-04-02 12:52:21,">>119215490 Immigrants are fine as long as they don't dwell on welfare, and they won't in a state that doesn't give them any. I don't care what they do in their spare time, they can have sex with five white slags in a week as long as they do what they are there for: cheap labour.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1491137541 119214225,119217971,2017-04-02 12:52:38,"(I deleted my original post because it was poorly worded.) The left has created a sort of ""script"" of bite-sized counter-arguments and though terminating cliches: >check your privilege >muh progress >don't you care about X? >muh inequality >X needs more regulation >living wage >common sense X control They just repeat these arguments mindlessly and that's how they win. We need coherent messaging that can be repeated mindlessly. To create our script, we first need to list all the leftist arguments that we encounter in the real world. Help me list these. I'll start: Arguments against libertarianism and ancap >Allows exploitation >Allows prejudice >Unequal wealth distribution >No mechanism to regulate boom and bust >Doesn’t allow iteration and fine-tuning of policy based on data >No way to protect consumers >Creates monopolies >Roads >People will be at each other’s throats >No protection for the poor >Private law is impossible >Democracy is the least of all evils I want to make a pamphlet eventually.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137558 119214225,119218051,2017-04-02 12:53:36,">>119216686 >Fags in SS cosplay patrolling the neighborhood, warning people that gay and/or interracial sex is punishable by death >Nobody has control over your life but yourself! I guess I can see why you'd be against anarchism though. People like you will just end up in isolated, 3rd-world conclaves where you slowly inbreed yourselves out of the human gene pool because nobody else will have you. >>119216762 >>119216946 The correct answer is that a credible threat counts as an act of aggression. So on the one hand, throwing your average tumblr user out of a helicopter would be a violation of the NAP. On the other, antifa activists (or KKK members, to be fair) and almost anyone holding political office is fair game.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137616 119214225,119218201,2017-04-02 12:55:09,">>119217902 >the market would offer plenty of solutions that wouldn't be as draconion and abusive as this specific landlord Then why are conditions like this so prevalent in the US? Generally, if you rent an apartment anywhere in this country, you'll find that they can evict you at pretty much any time so long as they give you a months warning.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137709 119214225,119218238,2017-04-02 12:55:36,">>119217388 closer to stoicism? It does not, however, hint at the even more radical ethical views which the Stoics defended, e.g. that only the sage is free while all others are slaves, or that all those who are morally vicious are equally so. (For other examples, see Cicero's brief essay ‘Paradoxa Stoicorum’.) Though it seems clear that some Stoics took a kind of perverse joy in advocating views which seem so at odds with common sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137736 119214225,119218415,2017-04-02 12:57:33,">>119217017 It wasn't meant to be an argument you idiot, it was to tell other posters not to waste time responding.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137853 119214225,119218576,2017-04-02 12:59:17,">>119218415 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491137957 119214225,119218974,2017-04-02 13:03:23,">>119218201 >Then why are conditions like this so prevalent in the US? Generally, if you rent an apartment anywhere in this country, you'll find that they can evict you at pretty much any time so long as they give you a months warning. Short answer: Because the US is not an Anarcho Capitalist society Long answer: It is practically impossible at this point to create villages from scratch, land belongs to the government, and even if you managed to buy some land, you would still be subject to government rules, which already limit your ability. Therefore, the business of gated communities or covenants is just not there, there are no incentives, the moment you want to expand you will find the government expropriating you in the name of roads or telling you how you can build and what you can or can't do in your property. This lack of incentive drives us to a model of small, single building landlords instead of mega-projects like the free market would most likely show, and these landlords of small units don't care if their property gains or loses value, they don't have any control over companies coming over near your building and adding value, they don't have any incentive towards expanding their property. We simply cannot project today's society into an anarcho capitalist hypothesis without considering how massive the change of public to private property would actually be.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491138203 119214225,119219000,2017-04-02 13:03:43,">>119218201 >they can evict you at pretty much any time so long as they give you a months warning. Which is generally because of local/state laws. Landlords don't bother with trying to include less draconian eviction rules in their rental agreements because there's no need to be competitive on that front.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491138223 119214225,119219128,2017-04-02 13:04:56,">>119218576 No, it wasn't, and spamming that every time someone says something intended to be an argument or not does you few favors. This is not an argument: Fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491138296 119214225,119220004,2017-04-02 13:13:50,">>119219128 also not an argument..................................................................................................................................................................",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491138830 119214225,119220318,2017-04-02 13:16:56,">>119214225 >There is no reason that private citizens cannot voluntarily fund a road. You're correct to some extent, but geographic constraints makes it hard for fully privatized roads to be a practical option for most countries. In real-life, when the government wants to create roads, they will first plan out where the roads are to go, carefully making room for residential and commercial zones. Once they settle on a plan, they'll put out a request for proposal, and various road companies will bid on who gets awarded the contract to build the roads. The government then selects a winner and pays out money until the roads are finished. Without government controlling the process, you wouldn't have the orderly road structure that we enjoy today. You'd have roads splashed about willy-nilly without regard for land usage. And without government paying the bills, where would the road companies get the money to pay the workers in the first place? Who puts out the request for proposal? Who picks the winner of bid?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491139016 119214225,119220363,2017-04-02 13:17:22,>>119220004,,Anonymous,download (9).jpg,RM7MJ92Tz5JJ1YdkD2MpkQ==,US,,1491139042 119214225,119220789,2017-04-02 13:21:29,">>119220318 Constructors would add value to their communities by building transport methods connected to entertainment/working hubs. Most people don't want to live in the middle of nowhere without access to other areas. Tolls would be an incredibly profitable business, as well. Doesn't seem so far-fetched that people will purchase land to connect points/sell if this road is not really necessary.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491139289 119214225,119221264,2017-04-02 13:26:18,">>119220789 So there are toll roads everywhere? You really don't see the problem with trying to having a functioning economy in places like this? What is to stop me from jacking up the prices in places where natural choke-points occur? And don't say ""but somebody else will just build a new road around your road"" because there are geographic reasons why you can't just have people building roads everywhere. Space isn't unlimited. And besides that, a person doing this would likely make sure that he also owns the surrounding land to prevent his route from being easily circumvented.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491139578 119214225,119221614,2017-04-02 13:29:41,">>119220318 Simple answer: There is absolutely no service the government provides that a private company could not also provide. Long answer: Local communities, likely in conjunction with larger businesses in the area, would effectively crowdsource the funds for a new road project, and work in conjunction with the company (which would likely have their own experts on staff) to plan land usage. >>119220789 Tolls will definitely be a thing on highways and interstates too, but it bears reminding people like >>119221264 that it'll still cost you far less than it does now for the government to manage the roads, and that competition exists in the form of local roads to keep toll prices down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491139781 119214225,119221776,2017-04-02 13:31:14,">>119217971 >Private law is impossible Private law IS impossible. >BUT MUH ARBITRATION You can't put a murder case through arbitration. Arbitration depends on both parties agreeing to the result. Nobody who is on trial for murder would EVER agree to the result of a trial where he is found guilty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491139874 119214225,119221880,2017-04-02 13:32:06,"What if someone sells poisonous food. And I don't want the ""muh business will go bankrupt"" I need something that takes more than 3 seconds to spit out",,Anonymous,image.jpg,Hhp6jUllK0UUoB8rsnEvvg==,US,,1491139926 119214225,119222190,2017-04-02 13:34:55,">>119221880 >What if someone sells poisonous food The same thing can happen in a regulated economy",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491140095 119214225,119222846,2017-04-02 13:40:48,">>119221264 >So there are toll roads everywhere? I want to stress that this is difficult to predict, the problem with being an Anarcho Capitalist is that, in order to argue for my political belief, I need to pretty much come up with solutions for every single market demand, won't stop me from trying though. I believe most prosperous communities will have some sort of agreement with road constructors, you build a road here, I give you rights to its exploitation, in exchange you need to make sure my property maintains a high value, overcharging my customers will certainly not be something that maintains my property value so I will add a provision in my contract to forbid you from doing it. The strategy you mention is very short sighted, you might get a quick buck due to necessity, but certainly making the economy around you go to the shitter doesn't seem like something I would do if I had a road toll, eventually, you would be forced to sell because jobs would just move somewhere else where costs of accessibility are lower. The good thing about private property, unlike public property, is that you have incentives towards looking for long term profit.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491140448 119214225,119223064,2017-04-02 13:42:50,">>119214225 there is only one communist guy here check the flag of every communist thread general its some spanish dude",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491140570 119214225,119223426,2017-04-02 13:46:13,">>119221614 There is no ""competition"" for roads. That's geographically impossible. What stops a person from buying all the roads around a business and then charging the business owner (who basically has no choice because his entire livelihood depends on it) huge fees to use them? Look at this Giant grocery store. If somebody buys all the roads around the store, then suddenly he would essentially control the entire business, because both customers and employees would have to constantly pay the tolls just to access the store.",,Anonymous,roads.png,urQLWzwsMC6wRvx6Yc3hng==,US,,1491140773 119214225,119223503,2017-04-02 13:47:00,">>119221880 Markets will most likely enforce the products that want to sell there to have passed some tests. There's no ideology in the world, though, that will prevent people from getting poisoned if they're not careful for their own health.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491140820 119214225,119223798,2017-04-02 13:49:34,">>119221776 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491140974 119214225,119223883,2017-04-02 13:50:16,">>119223064 Podemos has really fucked up the people of my country. Now there are more commies than ever. It's the hip thing to be now.",,Anonymous,Cibervoluntariado.png,F1vD85xTA9mTWxaaC+mrLQ==,ES,,1491141016 119214225,119223936,2017-04-02 13:50:46,">>119214603 The free market would get rid of all the SJW bullshit Homos and porn you mean? I don't give a shit what people do on their property as long as it doesn't affect me in any way To be frank those phenomenons are here probably forever anyways and if you want to force people to live a certain way that you subjectively deem good you are a communist",,Anonymous,1491039467428.png,z4xfUokDWBUAtYIWnzcE6A==,DE,,1491141046 119214225,119224120,2017-04-02 13:52:18,">>119223883 To be honest Spain was fucked before Podemos. Thing with Spain's political scene is that every generation there's a bunch of retards claiming the previous leftist wasn't leftist enough.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491141138 119214225,119224354,2017-04-02 13:54:40,">>119223883 Give them the government for 10 years, it won't be so hip anymore afterwards",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491141280 119214225,119224520,2017-04-02 13:56:15,">>119221880 Insurance companies would have to pay out their clients for the damage. To prevent it from happening in the future and to recoup the cost they would sue the company. The more successful a company is with lawsuits the lower the insurance premiums it can offer. Therefore those insurance companies should come out on top.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491141375 119214225,119224689,2017-04-02 13:57:56,">>119221776 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DN_tqy9MdY Min 35",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491141476 119214225,119224768,2017-04-02 13:58:40,">>119223936 Private ownership of streets would allow people to discriminate at will so they wouldn't have to suffer from fags locally. Nowadays fags and trannies can do these massive rallies in the center of all European capitals hanging around half nude and doing obscene shit in front of children despite of many parents that live in the whereabouts being against it. >>119224120 Not to mention the eternal butthurt that the civil war caused among the left. Everything that does not cater to their whims is related to Franco's regime. They're whiny loser boys. Everything that does not >>119224354 Already happened. Felipe Gonzalez, of the socialist party (PSOE) was in government for 13 years. It was really fucked up, he ended resignating because he was literally the head of a terrorist band (GAL). Then we had 8 years of liberal Jose María Aznar (PP, Merkel's homologue) and another 8 years of PSOE again. This country is a fucking joke.",,Anonymous,1465074768166.png,mw7p0OYLFm+bfCDrKls/Hw==,ES,,1491141520 119214225,119225043,2017-04-02 14:01:13,">>119224768 >Private ownership of streets would allow people to discriminate at will so they wouldn't have to suffer from fags locally. Nowadays fags and trannies can do these massive rallies in the center of all European capitals hanging around half nude and doing obscene shit in front of children despite of many parents that live in the whereabouts being against it. Except of course in a scenario where the owner is a cuck and there are lots of them around Already happened. Felipe Gonzalez, of the socialist party (PSOE) was in government for 13 years. It was really fucked up, he ended resignating because he was literally the head of a terrorist band (GAL). Then we had 8 years of liberal Jose María Aznar (PP, Merkel's homologue) and another 8 years of PSOE again. This country is a fucking joke. Topkek I've heard Ciudadanos emerged as a new market liberal party - are they any good?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491141673 119214225,119225070,2017-04-02 14:01:27,">>119223883 Same exact shit has happened in Portugal. All the cool kids are basically commies brainwashed by Podemos political brother, Bloco de Esquerda.",,Anonymous,1490723861088.png,UQq8tHZ+rIL1NpIdBq5KtA==,PT,,1491141687 119214225,119225103,2017-04-02 14:01:48,"In a Libertarian society, will there be a place for trap maids?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491141708 119214225,119225248,2017-04-02 14:03:05,"So, once ancap's ""goal"" is reached, what happens to all the mindless sheep that parrot jewish bullshit? A lot of the problems in society comes from the average person being too stupid to read a book a week or reading anything besides social media blogposts. How would Ancap fix this? Keep in mind, jewish racemixing propaganda from hollywood still makes a profit even though it's utter shit, so how would the ancap system remove this? How would the ancap reality be any different than the reality of today?",,Anonymous,private toll.png,0HN7EDbjXLmolLgOyJK9Sw==,US,,1491141785 119214225,119225493,2017-04-02 14:05:03,">>119215861 >not an argument Indeed, you still have to tell us where the degeneracy lies burger. Shouting buzzword and catchphrases is reddit/facebook tier , it does not work here",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1491141903 119214225,119225705,2017-04-02 14:07:03,">>119225248 >mindless sheep that parrot jewish bullshit Democracy gives them power in the first place. You can improve your local community more effectively under ancap.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491142023 119214225,119225727,2017-04-02 14:07:14,">>119225248 Imagine two private villages: Village 1 has free reign for democracy to change contractual terms at people's will Village 2 has contractually forbidden democracy so the only way to change the conditions is by an absolute agreement between all the implicated parts. Which one of these villages is more prone to Jewish trickery and propaganda in order to achieve certain political goals? Which one of these villages will be more prosperous, guiding yourself only by what you know? Which of the models is, then, more likely to be emulated by others, as landlords address demand of successful villages?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491142034 119214225,119225822,2017-04-02 14:08:10,">>119225103 Sold over the counter, no license needed.",,Anonymous,1490746863031.png,ShOcILGjhpkxN+OACiJmBg==,PT,,1491142090 119214225,119226161,2017-04-02 14:11:22,">>119225822 >24/7 BDSM contracts become literal and binding >I could actually become a slave to someone as long as I consent to it L-lewd",,Anonymous,Ayumishockedstare.png,5ZkLDOWkG+VPoHdbf6J3yw==,US,,1491142282 119214225,119226613,2017-04-02 14:15:18,">>119225727 Good point. But isn't village 2 subsceptible to outside/hostile takeover? Not saying that village 1 isn't, but spies and traitors have existed since the dawn of time, you know.",,Anonymous,1480699315127.png,5/LNBlytK71/9le0B7u+iw==,US,,1491142518 119214225,119226801,2017-04-02 14:16:56,">>119214603 It's not, the Founding Father's certainly avoided degeneracy back in their day and they didn't need massive government oversight to do so.",,Anonymous,brown.jpg,0iZcVJ3ez1sXS90aPzCD2A==,US,,1491142616 119214225,119227077,2017-04-02 14:19:13,">>119224689 This isn't really a hard question. It shouldn't require a 20-min video to answer. Why would ANYBODY who is on trial for murder, a capital crime in many countries, ever agree to the result if he is found guilty? Arbitration depends on both parties agreeing to honor the outcome whatever it may be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491142753 119214225,119227205,2017-04-02 14:20:16,">>119226613 Landowners are less prone to commie crap. The commies would get expelled even if they were a majority. They'd just call the insurers and that's that. Their job is protection of private property not politics. They wouldn't fuck around.",,Anonymous,Voting taxpayers.jpg,5NVkNe9Ogdmnt7Ya5m45wg==,SI,,1491142816 119214225,119227443,2017-04-02 14:22:13,">>119214225 >libertarians >open boarders >max 3rd world rapefugees >denizens of the 3rd world out breed libertarians 10:1 >White Western culture is replaced by 3rd world culture >America becomes 3rd world country with Latin American socialism and Sharia Law Check and m8. Libertardians BTFO!",,Anonymous,3rd world child labor.jpg,Z5kAX3kw2eiPa1SkFgD4Uw==,US,,1491142933 119214225,119227606,2017-04-02 14:23:40,">>119214225 BEST THREAD",,Anonymous,jOzwRsR-777x437.jpg,ENEt0U1tED7Q77+U/cayjg==,US,,1491143020 119214225,119227785,2017-04-02 14:25:13,">>119225727 >Village 1 has free reign for democracy to change contractual terms at people's will >Village 2 has contractually forbidden democracy so the only way to change the conditions is by an absolute agreement between all the implicated parts. I can see advantages to both systems but in general Village 1 would be more successful. Village 1 would be able to grow and adapt as needed, whereas Village 2 would essentially be paralyzed and unable to deal with any unforeseen situation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491143113 119214225,119227842,2017-04-02 14:25:39,">>119227443 >implying libertarians are for open borders >implying 3rd world refugees wouldn't starve or leave without welfare",,Anonymous,commando.jpg,+/wwsGFnAbu4SAIMpKnJgQ==,US,,1491143139 119214225,119228044,2017-04-02 14:27:18,"I get into a constant argument against my liberal brother-in-law about government overreach. He states that ""If you hate big government so much, do you hate having roads then too?"" I know it's such a shit tier argument, but I don't really know how to respond effectively.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491143238 119214225,119228062,2017-04-02 14:27:27,">>119227842 >Implying companies wouldn't import 3rd worlders for cheap labor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491143247 119214225,119228241,2017-04-02 14:29:16,">>119228044 >If you support 1 thing the government does, you must support everything the government ever does ever",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491143356 119214225,119228318,2017-04-02 14:30:06,">>119228044 >If you hate fat people so much, do you hate eating?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491143406 119214225,119228334,2017-04-02 14:30:22,">>119227443 Read ""Democracy - The God that failed"".",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1491143422 119214225,119228489,2017-04-02 14:31:43,">>119228062 >no minimum wage >need for cheap labor",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491143503 119214225,119228697,2017-04-02 14:33:50,">>119228044 Just say that there are certain legitimate functions of government, such as police, borders, military, and basic infrastructure, but that doesn't mean we need to needlessly inflate the government to handle everything. The 10th amendment sets a clear precedent for what the Federal government can and can't do, and right now we are butchering that amendment.",,Anonymous,camouflage.jpg,0ho33Xr5yq4kui90jgpzNQ==,US,,1491143630 119214225,119228762,2017-04-02 14:34:26,">>119227205 I feel like a lot of the ""reasoning"" behind ancap is blind worship of intangible concepts like ""the free market will always solve it"", or that human beings are always smart and rational, or that we exist in a vacuum of idealogy and ideas, with only sovereign people travelling their own road and making deals along the way. Granted, with the advancement of technology, some people are growing ever more rational, intelligent, and well read than ever before, but other are becoming forever-distracted sheep, for whom the internet is a lotus machine. I like ancap's ideas and ideals, I really do, I'm just new at this and I'm not sure if it'd work out. Although, I am almost completely sure it would work better than our current system. Just have to watch out for those sneaky, lying international agencies like the UN, IMF, EU or any other genocidal (((humanitarian))) organisation. On a side note, it's hilarious how much better this single thread is than the entirety of /biz/ in an entire week. >>119227785 I think he meant any two or more people can make any kind of deal they want, regardless of any laws(because there wouldn't be any).",,Anonymous,1481682150497.png,tOkZq5+zMeQGzcz74h22Xw==,US,,1491143666 119214225,119228867,2017-04-02 14:35:24,">>119228241 >>119228318 >>119228697 I've stated this to him before. But his usual response is: >If you trust the government with your roads, why don't you trust them with your healthcare, education or work benefits?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491143724 119214225,119229115,2017-04-02 14:37:46,">>119228867 >if it work in one case it works in a all cases he is a special kind of retard isn't he ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491143866 119214225,119229200,2017-04-02 14:38:38,">>119229115 He's a liberal. What did you expect?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491143918 119214225,119229429,2017-04-02 14:40:32,">>119228867 Well, for starters, the 10th amendment actually forbids the Federal government from handling such issues, as that power is left to the states. Now, on a state level, the government would be within its authority to have government healthcare, education, work benefits, and so on, but that doesn't mean that the state governments handling those things would be a good thing.",,Anonymous,Wolfgirl.png,b1SU2oFhe4femPh8gf5TRQ==,US,,1491144032 119214225,119229452,2017-04-02 14:40:42,">>119228762 AnCap only works if we ""physically remove"" people who will be a drag on the economy. At this stage of the timeline, AnCaps should be focusing all of their efforts on ""physical removal"" instead of larping over muh NAP.",,Anonymous,muh nap.png,9UlHjopokFxxM6zVx2IAYA==,US,,1491144042 119214225,119229650,2017-04-02 14:42:32,">>119227443 right of discrimination",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491144152 119214225,119229651,2017-04-02 14:42:33,">>119228489 >Implying it wouldn't still be cheaper to import Chinese",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491144153 119214225,119229736,2017-04-02 14:43:16,">>119228762 >free market will always solve it It does it better than the government. >human beings are always smart and rational That's not the case at all. If What's easier for normal person? Make a deal with an insurance company or learn everything about economics or a politician's history for example? People usually just go with the best deal even with politicians. So it's almost inherent in democracy that the guy who bullshits the most wins.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491144196 119214225,119229769,2017-04-02 14:43:39,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,lgFf4GHXy2B3JW43JBl8vA==,US,,1491144219 119214225,119229775,2017-04-02 14:43:42,">/lrg/ back I missed you goys",,Anonymous,1490571819772.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1491144222 119214225,119229849,2017-04-02 14:44:21,">>119229650 >Everybody is going to ""discriminate"" exactly the way you hope they will >Implying they won't just import shitloads of cheap labor regardless of long-term consequences",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491144261 119214225,119230046,2017-04-02 14:46:06,">Get fashy nazi-like government world power >Physically remove all the democrats and socialists, so to speak >Convert to minarchist government >Slowly privatise what's left of the government What could go wrong?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491144366 119214225,119230060,2017-04-02 14:46:12,">>119216762 >when communists voluntarily form their own socialistic communes >when the lack of moral agency, according to your own definition that it somehow must include the belief and the respect of negative liberties and the belief in property rights, necessarily implies that it is absolutely OK to kill a communist. >when you actually cannot give a philosophically consistent theory of aggression >when you can pretty much do anything because your ill-defined concept of aggression allows anything and everything to be considered aggression or not >when NAP is widely rejected and discredited among libertarian philosophers for the reason above >when liberals and libertarianism always reverts to violence >when the claim of legitimate violence creates an entity of with a monopoly on violence >when said entity actually is a fucking government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491144372 119214225,119230196,2017-04-02 14:47:16,">>119214603 >hurr durr I need big brother to keep me from jacking off",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491144436 119214225,119230221,2017-04-02 14:47:29,">>119229849 >Implying they won't just import shitloads of cheap labor regardless of long-term consequences Autrian economics focus on long term consequences,also niggers don't work and private security like banks would promote to their customers to discriminate the inneficient and dangerous people like the most violent races",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491144449 119214225,119230311,2017-04-02 14:48:21,">>119229736 >It does it better than the government. Depends on the situation really. There are things private business does well that the government is utterly hopeless at (such as producing consumer goods), but there are other things it does well that private business can't do (like build roads).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491144501 119214225,119230361,2017-04-02 14:48:42,"Red Pill me on the Libertarian Right, or whatever you call this ideology itt. Is it compatible with Identitarian ideology and elements of Fascistic/NatSoc thought systems?",,Anonymous,1488791818090.jpg,TACTxE8u3Dod6GYKHUImog==,DE,,1491144522 119214225,119230457,2017-04-02 14:49:38,">>119230311 >like build roads This fucking meme. Why the fuck not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491144578 119214225,119230660,2017-04-02 14:51:21,">>119230361 >Is it compatible with Identitarian ideology Yes, there isn't any reason why it wouldn't be. and elements of Fascistic/NatSoc thought systems? Not at all. NatSoc and Fascism are also not the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491144681 119214225,119230734,2017-04-02 14:52:01,">>119230311 What's with the fucking road meme? Toll roads aren't a new idea. It's just that now you pay your tolls directly instead of as taxes to the government. Only difference is now there's incentive to provide better roads. Plus, why do we need roads? What if communal transport becomes a better alternative?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491144721 119214225,119230804,2017-04-02 14:52:35,">>119229452 Yes, but wherever a state is stronger the monopoly on violence is stronger. Wonder why that is. >>119229736 I'm not defending democracy, I'm just saying that some of society's problems come from too much greed and short term thinking. If people were perfect, almost any system of economics or government would work perfectly. >>119230060 >when you actually cannot give a philosophically consistent theory of aggression The same can be said for many governments today, both in theory and in practice. >>119230361 That's honestly what I'm trying to figure out. The better a person is, the better job they do.",,Anonymous,1484896916494.jpg,Po4t6vS3EoverTmPQLAdbQ==,US,,1491144755 119214225,119230874,2017-04-02 14:53:09,">>119230361 you can discriminate anybody from your property and build lobbys or foundation to support your ideology without aggression but fascism and natsoc are totalitarian which libertarianism oppose by nature,but there is no problem with identitarian movement",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491144789 119214225,119230917,2017-04-02 14:53:30,">>119230361 > NutSuck You nutsucker",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491144810 119214225,119231039,2017-04-02 14:54:35,">>119230804 >>The same can be said for many governments today, both in theory and in practice. that is an extraneous matter to the validity of the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491144875 119214225,119231353,2017-04-02 14:57:15,"I don't actually agree with Hoppe on the physical removal aspect of his thinking There really isn't anything wrong with a group of people voluntarily choosing, under a an-cap system, to pool resources together and live communally. We know based on our society today that the type of people who would choose this are so incredibly small that it couldn't possibly harm the fabric of the society. Or am I wrong?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145035 119214225,119231585,2017-04-02 14:58:59,">>119231353 That's not the same as communism. It's voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491145139 119214225,119231614,2017-04-02 14:59:13,">>119231353 if they own this commune no prob if they try to promote it,by force,they should be destroyed",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491145153 119214225,119231634,2017-04-02 14:59:22,">>119229849 And having them vote for a government that will flood your community with immigrants and then house them with your own tax dollars is preferable how? >>119230311 >muh roads I hear the French prefer their private highways to state roads. And the local roads can be built by the community. >>119230804 >I'm not defending democracy Well I'm not saying the problems disappear. Just that things would improve if you let the market work instead of rely on politicians and the mob.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491145162 119214225,119231648,2017-04-02 14:59:31,">>119231353 No, you're not wrong. The problem usually comes from the fact that communists are almost always agitating for a global communist society, so if they aren't fighting you right now, then they are biding their time to fight you when you are at your weakest.",,Anonymous,Fox.jpg,S3D+Eiy0LfL/4eJ7/CraaA==,US,,1491145171 119214225,119231668,2017-04-02 14:59:44,">>119230660 Why isn't it compatible with Fascism or NatSoc? >>119230874 If it opposed fashy goys or NatSocs by implying they're always totalitarian, how does the libertarian right expect to get any power or influence?",,Anonymous,1488791859688.png,AON9zfYVKPd8jTKTOLPgqw==,DE,,1491145184 119214225,119231741,2017-04-02 15:00:14,">>119216641 The exploitation of people is inevitable in a world of scarce resources.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1491145214 119214225,119231988,2017-04-02 15:02:13,">>119231668 >If it opposed fashy goys or NatSocs by implying they're always totalitarian it is >how does the libertarian right expect to get any power or influence? secessionism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491145333 119214225,119232074,2017-04-02 15:02:58,">>119231668 >Why isn't it compatible with Fascism or NatSoc? because anarcho capitalism want's to do away with the state, or at the very very least decentralize/balkanize it to the nth degree. This is the exact opposite of NatSoc/Fascism's goals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145378 119214225,119232258,2017-04-02 15:04:36,">>119231585 >>119231614 >>119231648 Good points. I agree that Communist beliefs are fundamentally evil, abhorrent and socially degenerative, but how do we expunge these beliefs from Ancapistan without state violence?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145476 119214225,119232278,2017-04-02 15:04:45,">>119232074 >This is the exact opposite of NatSoc/Fascism's goals. Au Contraire.",,Anonymous,national socialism 25 points.png,zDh+lLnEsXyvu7HVkVO5kQ==,US,,1491145485 119214225,119232293,2017-04-02 15:04:54,">>119230457 Because a privately-managed road system would be a tangled mess of toll roads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145494 119214225,119232377,2017-04-02 15:05:35,">>119231668 Libertarian right believes in at minimum, a small government with a strong Constitution to protect the rights of the people. Fascism and National Socialism have always veered towards strong governments with centralized leadership, usually without any real rights to protect the citizenry.",,Anonymous,Combat Wives.png,ejEe5HH50yy39BQpFgqBQA==,US,,1491145535 119214225,119232398,2017-04-02 15:05:48,>>119232278,,Anonymous,national socialist economy 1.png,HkGj2u9DiGp0Rc+RZHy1LQ==,US,,1491145548 119214225,119232476,2017-04-02 15:06:27,">>119231988 literal secession? creation of an AnCap state? I thought the state was despised?",,Anonymous,1484349844421.png,lrx31Q8En7iI8ODpNtbCYw==,DE,,1491145587 119214225,119232564,2017-04-02 15:07:10,">>119232278 >NatSoc >we want a german state and such >ancap >we don't want states",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145630 119214225,119232620,2017-04-02 15:07:36,">>119232258 discrimination if they try to bypass the right of your property you have the right to remove them it's like self-defense",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491145656 119214225,119232686,2017-04-02 15:08:05,">>119232258 We let the people handle it on their own without stopping them. The commies, fascists, and libertarian militias are already itching to duke it out with each other, just give them the go ahead and don't interfere with government action and watch as the commies get blown away.",,Anonymous,aiming.png,7R7ycR1odY/9lWVDkMqsbg==,US,,1491145685 119214225,119232700,2017-04-02 15:08:12,">>119232258 Right wing death squads. Remember; communists are less than human and since they do not respect our rights we do not have to respect theirs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491145692 119214225,119232738,2017-04-02 15:08:28,">>119232074 If you succeed with balkanization and abolition of the state, how the fuck are you supposed to keep order and maintain an AnCap state? Say, a country of 80-100 million, how would that even work?",,Anonymous,1490497117195.png,mvXEUf/WkFv0KEi/MW/a2A==,DE,,1491145708 119214225,119232758,2017-04-02 15:08:38,">>119231634 >Companies do it today, but they won't do it in a society with no immigration laws because reasons!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145718 119214225,119232841,2017-04-02 15:09:25,">>119232398 >>119232377 Checked, but wrong. Fascism is the merger between corporation, people, and state. With the people serving whichever corporation they choose, the corporation integrated/serving the state, and the state serving the people's interests which the people cannot attain on their own or by a corporation. Also you grouped fascism and national socialism together, but they are entirely different animals.",,Anonymous,national socialist economy 2.png,+Pz28Ouq9FrfxiYSO0ownA==,US,,1491145765 119214225,119232918,2017-04-02 15:09:55,>>119232841,,Anonymous,national socialist economy 3.png,tkfw3LL8lGhqA1T9rw7Nvg==,US,,1491145795 119214225,119232920,2017-04-02 15:09:56,">>119232476 well,the CNT (try to not vomit) had it's own territory a private territory without taxes and such",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491145796 119214225,119232946,2017-04-02 15:10:09,">>119230804 >monopoly of violence Right, which means Libertarians/AnCaps will never be able to smash the State because the proles, outer party, and inner party will never relinquish their monopoly on violence. Thus, you will be forever larping over muh NAP. Unless, you focus all of your current productive energy in this timeline on PHYSICAL REMOVAL. Why don't you come on in with the team and join us for the big win? We just have to keep our heads together until this whole peace craze blows over. Pick related.",,Anonymous,Franco.jpg,u/phc2Jwm5Q4TbQNG2nICQ==,US,,1491145809 119214225,119232950,2017-04-02 15:10:13,">>119232738 ""You"" don't keep order, there isn't a country, and it isn't a state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145813 119214225,119233013,2017-04-02 15:10:41,">>119232377 >Libertarian right believes in at minimum, a small government with a strong Constitution to protect the rights of the people. Which people? The original culture/folk of the area on which the Libertarian Right's state is supposed to exist, or literally anyone through immigration? > Fascism and National Socialism have always veered towards strong governments with centralized leadership, usually without any real rights to protect the citizenry. >without any real rights to protect the citizenry Lol please are you serious?",,Anonymous,1488795830677.jpg,DYizvaT6DGPgvnUiE6a2iA==,DE,,1491145841 119214225,119233022,2017-04-02 15:10:48,">>119232738 >Say, a country of 80-100 million, how would that even work? It wouldn't. People with money, land, and connections would just create new governments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145848 119214225,119233140,2017-04-02 15:11:50,">>119230361 >National (((Socialism))) Fuck off leftist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145910 119214225,119233177,2017-04-02 15:12:10,">>119233013 he talks about individual rights",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491145930 119214225,119233259,2017-04-02 15:12:55,">>119233140 NatSoc is not ""socialist"" in the sense you think it is.",,Anonymous,1488018761403.jpg,6eiyJsx3eOsBVKJIekha6Q==,DE,,1491145975 119214225,119233316,2017-04-02 15:13:15,">>119232841 >>119232918 This ideology is collectivist, and while it has it's upsides, no real libertarian will embrace it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491145995 119214225,119233384,2017-04-02 15:13:45,">>119232920 who keeps order?",,Anonymous,1489543714947.jpg,U2MfdfmTemxaszEE80oKcg==,DE,,1491146025 119214225,119233458,2017-04-02 15:14:18,">>119214225 nice flag, may I hold? (seriously though, you mind if I steal that flag. It's pretty sweet)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491146058 119214225,119233533,2017-04-02 15:14:46,">>119233022 So how are you supposed to attract large amounts of people in your non-state?",,Anonymous,4726e54f38c044cd3afcf815ed4e19efe1f6b7b125de9920c0a00da839f35f7f.jpg,H41ytqjFaGRTtvcX1GQOGA==,DE,,1491146086 119214225,119233544,2017-04-02 15:14:53,">>119217940 Race-mixing is okay in a vacuum where you completely ignore the social, political, and cultural realities of the situation? Maybe, but why would you bother making that point? The migrants aren't libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146093 119214225,119233593,2017-04-02 15:15:10,">>119231353 >voluntarily choosing Yes Comrade, you will volunteer to pool resources. t. faggit",,Anonymous,voluntary community.jpg,NiEGDK3h6fq2MPGuc2xHiA==,US,,1491146110 119214225,119233618,2017-04-02 15:15:20,">>119233259 >our socialism is the real socialism >nvm the fact that socialism as a collectivist agenda predates marx",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146120 119214225,119233675,2017-04-02 15:15:44,">>119232946 what happens afterwards though? Hypothetically the Libertarian Right teams up with the Fascists to smash the current state and communists. We would be at each others throats, and the hardened fascists who had been fighting alongside would likely find it politically expedient to simply slit our throats. To put it simply, we may agree on some things but we are frankly too different to work together.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146144 119214225,119233707,2017-04-02 15:15:59,">>119232950 Who keeps order? Who makes sure the population is safe? How is security ensured? What happens if non-Europeans want to settle?",,Anonymous,10a78d423c847e23fd40425094971dd6c5e80a7a5ae389ea8695d8903121cf7e.png,haIxoP1Zo13269rXuZRang==,DE,,1491146159 119214225,119233814,2017-04-02 15:16:49,">>119233533 I have no idea. Ancap is kinda retarded, huh?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146209 119214225,119233843,2017-04-02 15:17:05,">>119232278 point 7,11,13,14,15,17,18,20,21,23,25 are not libertarian right",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491146225 119214225,119233844,2017-04-02 15:17:05,">>119233259 >still uses high taxes >Nationalized Healthcare and labor >Strasserism Fuck that, the free market is the true savior.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146225 119214225,119233896,2017-04-02 15:17:33,">>119233618 Umm. It's not socialism. They could have easily chosen another name, the ""socialist"" in NSDAP was meant to attract the Sozis.",,Anonymous,1491082303856.jpg,PKOkZCgujxRV4EV8iLRQHA==,DE,,1491146253 119214225,119233953,2017-04-02 15:18:04,">>119233384 security insurence >>119233533 profit,there is no taxes dunce",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491146284 119214225,119233995,2017-04-02 15:18:31,">>119233707 Order is privatized. You are protected if you can afford to pay for protection or if you choose to pay for protection. Non-Europeans can settle if they please, but will only be able to do so if they can find a job, afford to house and feed themselves, and afford protection/insurance. Businesses and other voluntary associations reserve the right to refuse anything to anyone at any time, however.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146311 119214225,119234029,2017-04-02 15:18:47,">>119233177 how are these rights supposed to be safeguarded?",,Anonymous,1488795830672.jpg,SOMpNQj+k/RVjIA+CxVXcQ==,DE,,1491146327 119214225,119234148,2017-04-02 15:19:53,">>119234029 With an armed citizenry.",,Anonymous,Jesus.jpg,+GMsXvBhK7aUic0seDCBhw==,US,,1491146393 119214225,119234169,2017-04-02 15:20:01,">>119233896 But they didn't and this guy is claiming that true socialism is individualist and adopted as their own ideology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146401 119214225,119234215,2017-04-02 15:20:32,">>119233953 >there is no taxes Rents and tolls would quickly take the place of taxes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146432 119214225,119234218,2017-04-02 15:20:33,">>119233316 What little beef I have with ancap is that the human condition is not solvable, or at least it's not desirable for it to be solvable, by television, mp3 players, or coca-cola and hamburgers. There are things which can't be bought that are vital for healthy human beings. Generally, as long as a man has beer, a house, and a loving wife and family, he is happy, moreso than any amount of big amounts of icecream can do. >>119233675 I don't think we're too different. Honor is a higher ideal, and National Socialism seeks to uplift all that is good in the human condition, and reduce the power of all that base. As long as none of you are backstabbing scumbags, which according to many of you is something the system of AnCap would get rid of, I see no reason why we wouldn't be able to get along.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146433 119214225,119234248,2017-04-02 15:20:48,">>119233953 how is the security insurance ensured? is there policy, national army?",,Anonymous,1489553281452.jpg,nup0h30O8/Khj+NEY3kKFg==,DE,,1491146448 119214225,119234252,2017-04-02 15:20:49,">>119233675 At that point, we can part ways. However, as long as we suffer from a common enemy seeking to (((redistribute))) our labor, we will never be able to reach this point. My point is, instead of pie in the sky dreaming about NAP, let's focus our efforts on actual physical removal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146449 119214225,119234271,2017-04-02 15:20:56,">>119234029 >the state >ever safeguarding rights the state puts ""reasonable"" limits on your rights and pretends that it's safeguarding them. In reality all rights exist in nature and are diluted by the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146456 119214225,119234350,2017-04-02 15:21:39,">>119234148 This >mfw Authoritarian leftists don't understand an armed society is a polite society",,Anonymous,download (5).jpg,/0mRKCEToUzqa2luIBHGAw==,US,,1491146499 119214225,119234460,2017-04-02 15:22:35,">>119234148 And what if this well-armed citizenry decides that they don't like ancap and they want to try something different?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146555 119214225,119234472,2017-04-02 15:22:39,">>119234248 armed people who create an insurence where they propose you to subscribe so they protect you",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491146559 119214225,119234490,2017-04-02 15:22:47,">>119233995 >You are protected if you can afford to pay for protection How is money procured if the state doesn't exist to give it to you? >Non-Europeans can settle if they please dropped.",,Anonymous,1490730747312.jpg,bgpdYYdvycxaVYValKQAAw==,DE,,1491146567 119214225,119234626,2017-04-02 15:23:56,">>119234460 They can voluntarily organize themselves however they wish, but if they want to force that system on people involuntarily then they will be facing other armed citizens.",,Anonymous,shower.jpg,mT4SPIbYCvsb3aWNkXxmww==,US,,1491146636 119214225,119234666,2017-04-02 15:24:16,">>119234460 they fuck off if they want it >>119234215 you are not jailed for using a highway",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491146656 119214225,119234761,2017-04-02 15:25:05,">>119233593 >>Yes Comrade, you will volunteer to pool resources. Primitives do it just fine. My family came from a traditional culture and we pool money and share things like cars and bills like it belonged to everyone but no one specifically. It's possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146705 119214225,119234764,2017-04-02 15:25:07,">>119234169 Well that's exactly it, isn't it. Hitler's socialism wasn't classical socialism or leftist socialism, bur rather a mish mash of stuff. That's why I said it was used to garner the support of German real socialists of the 30s.",,Anonymous,1488796041033.png,nlNrhkzAAlvr9CaWnUNjFw==,DE,,1491146707 119214225,119234864,2017-04-02 15:25:52,">>119234490 >How is money procured if the state doesn't exist to give it to you? You'd have competing currencies and also Banks could make agreements to print the same currencies >dropped. If they don't behave and live close to you it's likely that your property value would drop because of them and that's when they violate the NAP and you'd be free to physically remove them or to hire an agency to do so",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491146752 119214225,119234897,2017-04-02 15:26:08,">>119234490 you know bitcoin and gold exists right ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491146768 119214225,119234936,2017-04-02 15:26:30,">>119234666 Well Satan, people still need to live somewhere, so they'll end up paying rent anyway. And since landlords no longer have a government protecting them, they'll have to charge a lot more so they can handle functions that would have been handled by government in the past.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491146790 119214225,119234987,2017-04-02 15:26:53,"How would privatized pensions (and social security in general) work out for poor people with few or no children? Wouldn't most companies who offer social security tell them to fuck off because they can't afford it?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491146813 119214225,119235252,2017-04-02 15:28:57,"I reworked my edgy paste. I made this because we should stop trying to convince people that we could build roads without the goverment.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,N1a+QThhl0g8UaoaMc+JEw==,US,,1491146937 119214225,119235305,2017-04-02 15:29:29,">>119234864 >If they don't behave and live close to you it's likely that your property value would drop because of them and that's when they violate the NAP and you'd be free to physically remove them or to hire an agency to do so Why all this nonsense? Why not limit the nonstate to European people and completely go around the nightmare of African or Asiatic immigration?",,Anonymous,1488452659275.png,oJZKsbyknmUltIN4uZ4hiw==,DE,,1491146969 119214225,119235382,2017-04-02 15:30:09,">>119234987 They could try getting a job",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491147009 119214225,119235499,2017-04-02 15:31:08,">>119234936 >so they'll end up paying rent anyway. and ? >And since landlords no longer have a government protecting them, they'll have to charge a lot more so they can handle functions that would have been handled by government in the past. well you pay the rent,and the taxes,now you just pay a rent that is a little more expensive,also since it's laissez faire capitalism they don't have to ensure that you are personally safe or whatever",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491147068 119214225,119235606,2017-04-02 15:31:51,">>119235252 I like it, saved.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491147111 119214225,119235610,2017-04-02 15:31:53,">>119235305 you can do it by discriminating non-whites",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491147113 119214225,119235623,2017-04-02 15:31:59,">>119234897 How would banks and the money system be removed though?",,Anonymous,1489931818519.png,BYlhIj94SYhENrldJ2Yzyw==,DE,,1491147119 119214225,119235774,2017-04-02 15:33:19,">>119235623 >How would banks and the money system be removed though? it wouldn't,money existed far before central banks",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491147199 119214225,119235776,2017-04-02 15:33:19,">>119234987 >How would privatized pensions (and social security in general) work out for poor people with few or no children? Just like they worked pre-1957 in Germany You'd have a bank account with special conditions, or life insurance, or you invest in stocks etc >But you're poor Even poor people can afford putting like 20 bucks a month aside and invest that money in silver for example Also make more children and do what you can to give them a good education Plus there would still be voluntary organizations that could help the really poor although through all the (now real) free market competition prizes for basic goods would be low as fuck and because of no taxes even wagecucks would be relatively better off than today and you could get a job really easy >companies who offer social security That's an SJW myth, there is no company in the world that pays social security to it's workers because it makes absolutely no difference whether the company pays it and cuts wages in return or if the workers pay it and the company can afford to pay them higher wages",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491147199 119214225,119235829,2017-04-02 15:33:47,">>119234987 Social security used to be handled by mutual aid organizations before they were destroyed by welfare. Examples of mutual-aid organizations include unions, the Friendly Societies that were common throughout Europe in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries,[3] medieval craft guilds,[4] the American ""fraternity societies"" that existed during the Great Depression providing their members with health and life insurance and funeral benefits,[5] and the English ""workers clubs"" of the 1930s that also provided health insurance,[6]",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491147227 119214225,119235834,2017-04-02 15:33:48,">>119234460 >And what if this well-armed citizenry decides that they don't like ancap and they want to try something different? >>119234626 >They can voluntarily organize themselves however they wish, but if they want to force that system on people involuntarily then they will be facing other armed citizens. It's like I'm seeing a classic criticism of ancap play out: It devolves into feudalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491147228 119214225,119235847,2017-04-02 15:33:55,">>119235252 it's a bit of an edgy scrawl but the last little bit gave me chills, anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491147235 119214225,119236057,2017-04-02 15:35:55,">>119235834 >It devolves into feudalism You fundamentally misunderstand feudalism then. Under feudalism, as a peasant you weren't allowed to leave the land. You were tied to the land, and were forced to work for whoever was lord over the land. That wouldn't be the case under anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,BOPE.jpg,O0HIlLtjGF88+XqngH4fLQ==,US,,1491147355 119214225,119236188,2017-04-02 15:36:57,">>119235305 There are unfortunately still all the cucks around and it's ethically wrong to force them to live according to your preferences aside from the four basic natural rules of property You could just find like-minded people, get together in the same area and don't allow shitskins to enter your property or buy your goods Also why the fuck would they come? Number one reason they are here today is the welfare state - In white countries where there isn't such a big welfare state, for example hungary or poland, there are barely any migrants. I don't think that's a coincidence",,Anonymous,1485139784519.jpg,kOekY48LgWJheLGEsWd9gg==,DE,,1491147417 119214225,119236268,2017-04-02 15:37:39,">>119234987 >Wouldn't most companies who offer social security tell them to fuck off because they can't afford it? The vast majority of people would spend their entire lives working almost constantly for low pay, only be discarded and left to die when they're too old to work. Basically, yeah. Such is live in ancap utopia. >>119235499 >also since it's laissez faire capitalism they don't have to ensure that you are personally safe or whatever Not you, them. Any land-lord is going to need serious security to protect themselves from being killed. They will also need to have a way to evict tenants because they can't just call the police to have them handle it anymore. >>119235834 It doesn't devolve into feudalism. It begins as feudalism. The mechanics of an ancap society would be no different than what existed under feudalism, wealthy landowners would be kings and they would control everything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491147459 119214225,119236377,2017-04-02 15:38:50,">>119235623 It wouldn't be removed but businesses would be perfectly free to choose which currencies they accept so there would be no territorial monopoly for the euro or dollar for example",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491147530 119214225,119236566,2017-04-02 15:40:43,">>119236268 And what says to you that the security would be this expensive Sure the rent might be a little higher but since there isn't a police monopoly the security company would try to subscribe to the cheapest",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491147643 119214225,119236607,2017-04-02 15:41:09,">>119236377 Who pays the businesses?",,Anonymous,1488804727371.jpg,vH1wzQJQkEN/hMhvkvzYEA==,DE,,1491147669 119214225,119236738,2017-04-02 15:42:19,">>119236607 Consumers",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491147739 119214225,119236756,2017-04-02 15:42:25,">>119236607 When you go and want to buy a newspaper, it's definitely not me who pays for it faggot",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491147745 119214225,119236900,2017-04-02 15:43:52,">>119236566 >And what says to you that the security would be this expensive Because in a society where any pissed-off tenant could have recreational nerve gas rigged to go off, you need more than just a few rent-a-cops.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491147832 119214225,119236999,2017-04-02 15:44:37,">>119236738 I don't mean consuming the goods of the business. I mean the salary/funding of the business, where does that come from?",,Anonymous,1490728108430.jpg,Tbr0vZ9UCSA94AeAFV2mKQ==,DE,,1491147877 119214225,119237002,2017-04-02 15:44:38,">>119236607 who pays businesses now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491147878 119214225,119237013,2017-04-02 15:44:43,">>119214225 > libertarianism",,Anonymous,dfa78b50b5e6cfb66046fe5ef10da06d750c27c085b4f7377a4a96daa630bc04.jpg,WIoeKfshaJyzE/AsPbwh8A==,US,,1491147883 119214225,119237129,2017-04-02 15:45:52,">>119236999 Investors? Just like it does today",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491147952 119214225,119237181,2017-04-02 15:46:17,">>119236900 Without the military-industrial complex and the never empty well of government money there would be simply no demand for nerve gas or nukes and shit and the little demand that would exist because of some lunatics wouldn't make it profitable for companies to produce it",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491147977 119214225,119237200,2017-04-02 15:46:28,">>119236999 >salary/funding of the business >stormfags have no idea how business works",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491147988 119214225,119237293,2017-04-02 15:47:25,"*establishes libertarian society* *gets invaded*",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491148045 119214225,119237319,2017-04-02 15:47:33,">>119237200 I'm specifically asking about businesses in an AnCap nonstate.",,Anonymous,1484348009684.jpg,Rhn9jilYTKUGdwpdHzcssQ==,DE,,1491148053 119214225,119237334,2017-04-02 15:47:39,">>119237181 >Without the military-industrial complex and the never empty well of government money there would be simply no demand for nerve gas or nukes and shit Come to America. You know nothing.",,Anonymous,1451655581355-0.png,Fwi+r36C5IwGximT2ur4FA==,US,,1491148059 119214225,119237399,2017-04-02 15:48:15,">>119237129 Who pays the investors?",,Anonymous,1490187258339.jpg,HK8wrKiVyh/5Cd39Jqq8JA==,DE,,1491148095 119214225,119237410,2017-04-02 15:48:22,">>119236999 Business sells goods for a profitable prize, gets (hopefully enough) money to pay its workers, production cost and other expenses and sustains and grows its business Do you even economics m8",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491148102 119214225,119237414,2017-04-02 15:48:25,">>119235382 What if the person is a low skilled worker and the job doesn't pay enough to afford it, making it non-profitable for the pension company? Or what if he literally can't find a job (yes, those cases exist)? >>119235776 >there is no company in the world that pays social security Sorry, I meant insurance companies who offer it as a service to their customers, not regular companies offering it to their workers. >You'd have a bank account with special conditions, or life insurance, or you invest in stocks etc So, instead of it being a service, everyone has to save up his own money? See >>119236268 People who work for low wages will have trouble saving up money. 20$/month won't be enough. >Even poor people can afford putting like 20 bucks a month aside and invest that money in silver for example The average Joe has no idea how to invest. >make more children >give them a good education Poor people can't afford feeding 8 children with 1 or 2 low wage jobs without running into serious problems. How would be give them a good education if you have to work 12 hours a day to feed them?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491148105 119214225,119237497,2017-04-02 15:49:06,">>119236900 And ? So could X security company to outcompete others ot should be the least expensive possible",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491148146 119214225,119237502,2017-04-02 15:49:09,">>119237399 Anon I'm starting to think you don't understand basic economics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491148149 119214225,119237528,2017-04-02 15:49:24,">>119237399 >Nazis show up >thread immediately goes to shit Can you go back to your containment thread?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491148164 119214225,119237535,2017-04-02 15:49:26,"This ones mostly for some keks, but still a good answer to end the road ""debate"" >>119236607 Thats the dumbest question I've ever heard.",,Anonymous,No_Roads.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1491148166 119214225,119237542,2017-04-02 15:49:32,">>119237334 Do you know how costly it is to produce nerve gas? If there really was a demand for it there would also be a demand for proper protection gear and that's much less expensive",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491148172 119214225,119237658,2017-04-02 15:50:44,">>119237399 Nobody pays the investors except for the business they invested in idiot",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491148244 119214225,119237669,2017-04-02 15:50:49,">>119237528 > lolbergs giving this much lip This place really has gone to shit, hasn't it?",,Anonymous,hilarious.png,bKnAur5758DR23Aynpg2Fg==,US,,1491148249 119214225,119237693,2017-04-02 15:51:02,">>119237399 Fucking hell, do you not know how basic economics works? Banks loan money with interest, money gets spent on things that produce more money for the person, the money is then paid back with interest, everyone walks away happy.",,Anonymous,sitting.jpg,03GNvj6d6C3NJDP5rc+RDg==,US,,1491148262 119214225,119237712,2017-04-02 15:51:13,">>119237414 >Poor people can't afford feeding 8 children with 1 or 2 low wage jobs Tell that to Mexicans. >>119237497 And the least expensive option will still be pretty damn expensive amigo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491148273 119214225,119237723,2017-04-02 15:51:22,">>119237399 Now you go to the legit-retard level",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491148282 119214225,119237755,2017-04-02 15:51:42,">>119237669 >This place really has gone to shit It has. >>>/stormfront/",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491148302 119214225,119237928,2017-04-02 15:53:15,">>119237712 Less expensive than your taxes",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491148395 119214225,119238106,2017-04-02 15:55:04,">>119237755 >>>>>redit Fuck off cunt",,Anonymous,1486844977042.png,Z4x8S1EQ5/w2yaTANpGgQA==,RO,,1491148504 119214225,119238139,2017-04-02 15:55:20,">""m-muh stormfront"" Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491148520 119214225,119238198,2017-04-02 15:55:53,Did you know you can get to work in ancapistan and physically remove leftists by joining a Mexican drug cartel?,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491148553 119214225,119238247,2017-04-02 15:56:18,">>119238139 Not my fault Nazis can't even into basic economics and shit up the thread.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491148578 119214225,119238279,2017-04-02 15:56:31,">>119237414 >So, instead of it being a service, everyone has to save up his own money? See >>119236268 People who work for low wages will have trouble saving up money. 20$/month won't be enough. As I said there would be still voluntary organizations that could help you if you're really in the shitters Churches or caritas won't just disappear m8 >Poor people can't afford feeding 8 children with 1 or 2 low wage jobs without running into serious problems. Worked for thousands of years >How would be give them a good education if you have to work 12 hours a day to feed them? Well not necessarily the best education but if you teach them about values and virtues and stuff they will grow up as decent people and probably get a chance to enter a shitty job and climb up the ladder through qualification programs etc And in the end you would just live with them just like 100 years ago when things regarding family values weren't as shit as today",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491148591 119214225,119238353,2017-04-02 15:57:10,">>119237502 >>119237528 >>119237658 >>119237693 >>119237723 In a hypothetical AnCap nonstate you degenerates, calm down.",,Anonymous,1490926162671.jpg,hvlluyDU28Foc4xp7ofXrQ==,DE,,1491148630 119214225,119238375,2017-04-02 15:57:20,">>119237928 The thing about taxes is that rich people pay the majority of them which keeps lower for everybody else. That wouldn't happen with rent. Every business will need some kind of private security, which admittedly is probably true IRL as well, but the need for it would be greatly increased.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491148640 119214225,119238446,2017-04-02 15:57:59,">>119238106 You're right We should explode all bridges And roads because the people in your city can get their labor stoled from people coming from neighbour cities because of this Protectionist retard",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491148679 119214225,119238482,2017-04-02 15:58:21,">>119238353 >>119237658 always applies",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491148701 119214225,119238504,2017-04-02 15:58:33,">>119237542 >Do you know how costly it is to produce nerve gas? Depends on the type. > If there really was a demand for it there would also be a demand for proper protection gear and that's much less expensive Thats why nerve gas is basically useless, right? Dunno what I'd do without my bio-chem hazard suit and safety bunker. You're also seemingly unaware of the fact that like once a year someone in the US tries to build a nuclear reactor in their garage for shits and giggles. Theres' tons of shit thats not hugely expensive that can be produced/cultivated in large volume for little cost, but under current government-regulated conditions it is very expensive to pursue legally (and very expensive to be caught pursuing illegally), not to mention very difficult due to those same regulatory measures and monitoring avenues interceding before some dipshit is able to start combining the wholesale chemical components he bought from China into some sprt of bio-chem attack vector, or cultivating hypersmallpox in the rat population he's been building in his barn. Nerve gas and nukes would be in demand because they have applicable value, and they - or their near equivalents - can often be produced quite cheaply, esp. if in a more constly manner ala human-resources or acceptable inefficiency. Point being, the notion that there 'just wouldnt be a demand' without the military industrial complex or whatever is silly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491148713 119214225,119238555,2017-04-02 15:58:58,">>119238353 You seem to be under the impression that basic economics ceases to function the second the state stops being involved.",,Anonymous,gun-nun.png,SEjd2I+pe7rnaCuiHFlGnw==,US,,1491148738 119214225,119238568,2017-04-02 15:59:04,">>119238353 It doesn't change if it's ancap or not retard Business is business",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491148744 119214225,119238655,2017-04-02 15:59:45,">>119238375 Increased demand = higher prices = more lucrative market = more competition = lower prices",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491148785 119214225,119238761,2017-04-02 16:00:49,">>119238655 >higher prices = lower prices Wut",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491148849 119214225,119238843,2017-04-02 16:01:29,">>119237755 Lad, come on now. Also, stormfront is pretty okay. Its probably better than cuckchan at this point, at least. Fuck's sake, there's a bloody lolberg infestation.",,Anonymous,hilariouss.png,3q9VUik+v2PoX4flrEfG3w==,US,,1491148889 119214225,119238867,2017-04-02 16:01:46,">>119238761 >ignores what's inbetween Not very honest rhetoric m8",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491148906 119214225,119238907,2017-04-02 16:02:05,">>119238247 I remember when I was in my lolbertarian phase. Was looking at friedman (oy vey) interview and they asked him if he did want to leave a better earth for future generations. He answered whith what they have ever done for him. Indivualism is cancer",,Anonymous,1465885116830.jpg,v/LLiX7pcZsxU/R1ereOdA==,NL,,1491148925 119214225,119238939,2017-04-02 16:02:19,">>119227443 If you privatise everything the result is not open borders, it's EVERYTHING becomes a border. There is literally no possibility for immigrants to leech off of or pester the natives. All complaints about immigration would cease to exist as all immigration becomes INVITED immigration.",,Anonymous,1490036706888.jpg,lHNKaB9i3JrmzW/D15Cq6g==,NL,,1491148939 119214225,119238941,2017-04-02 16:02:19,">>119238446 No faggot toal control a totalitarian state,what are you nigger?!If you want freedom go to Somalia....oh wait its already in your home. Only fascism or national socialism will sve Europe right now.The weak pussy state you want will get raped by weaker nibghours,you faggots know nothing about how the world works. >>muuuuuuh economics Life is about struggle have you ever been stabbed in a street?Have you ever fought for your life with subhuman scum,beacuse with lorbertarian shit that will become adaily occurence. I did it once and i had enough.AVE VICTORIA!",,Anonymous,fasc101.png,L/LDen9w1ENqNoqEZmtxlA==,RO,,1491148939 119214225,119238965,2017-04-02 16:02:36,">>119238843 Lulz in stormfront you get banned for saying nigger",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491148956 119214225,119239026,2017-04-02 16:03:06,">>119238761 Yeah just ignore the logic but that's what it is when the free market does its magic With government price fixing, subsidies, inflation etc. of course it works to a lesser extent",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491148986 119214225,119239045,2017-04-02 16:03:23,">>119238965 Pfffffffthahahahaha, if thats true i take it back. Its as shit as this place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149003 119214225,119239116,2017-04-02 16:04:04,">>119238941 >autistic screeching the post Get your meds it isn't tumblr here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491149044 119214225,119239123,2017-04-02 16:04:07,">>119238907 >leave a better earth for future generations And how did the Nazis fare at that?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491149047 119214225,119239220,2017-04-02 16:05:00,">>119238941 Its because they don't understand humans, because they're stunted.",,Anonymous,What Do Liberals Believe - It Doesn't Matter a.jpg,gNNyqf4vPpDdhnLEglOBpQ==,US,,1491149100 119214225,119239306,2017-04-02 16:05:43,">>119239123 Better than most, even despite failure. Its really incredible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149143 119214225,119239382,2017-04-02 16:06:25,">>119238504 Yeah but what I'm talking about is that the demand wouldn't be enough to make it profitable for businesses to produce these weapons",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491149185 119214225,119239468,2017-04-02 16:07:03,">>119238555 >>119238568 Who creates money? How is it regulated? How is it distributed?",,Anonymous,1490727919370.jpg,EC3fvQocfjDeB1sBzakWeQ==,DE,,1491149223 119214225,119239471,2017-04-02 16:07:06,">>119239306 >70 million dead Europeans >Germany brought to ruin by a suicidal meth head >Better than most",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491149226 119214225,119239494,2017-04-02 16:07:23,">>119236057 >You were tied to the land, and were forced to work for whoever was lord over the land. That was one aspect of feudalism in the medieval times. That doesn't invalidate the general description of the degraded ancap state. That it will turn into a collection of fiefdoms constantly warring because there was no higher entity that claimed the legitimate use of force and everyone retaliating against each other because they were the victims of the ill-defined concept of aggression. There will most likely be a rigid hierarchy enforced by corporate property owners and ""private"" security. The vast majority of laborers ""voluntarily"" submits to indentured servitude universal across every other corporate land. In that case, baring the existence of some effective slave contract, I would like to believe that someone could just pack their bags and start their own business in the middle of nowhere, where the universal acceptance of the NAP will magically ward off illegitimate use of violence. I believe that the term ""feudalism"" is a very close approximate for the situation above.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149243 119214225,119239530,2017-04-02 16:07:41,">>119239306 Yup, they really succeeded there. Started wars with everyone, then got defeated, and now Germany is on its way to becoming an Islamic Caliphate.",,Anonymous,safety.jpg,yJ/OcL2ReJyPf0j/uBhF4Q==,US,,1491149261 119214225,119239585,2017-04-02 16:08:12,">>119214225 How are you supposed to physically remove people without a state? You idolize Pinochet for removing reds but you fail to realize he was only a capitalist, not a libertarian. In fact he would be a dictator in your eyes if instead of removing communist he removed jews. I just don't get it. It seems like your all too scared to be nazi or just fascists. its as if you don't think its possible to have a fascist government with more personal freedoms than we have in america right now. It is possible. Just admit, your fascists that want a libertarian minded dictator.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149292 119214225,119239630,2017-04-02 16:08:36,">>119238867 That's not how math works anon. 1 + 5 = 3 + 3 = 2 + 4 = 6 >>119239026 >Nothing would ever be expensive unless the government makes it so. Hate to break it to you but even in ""pure"" capitalism things would still be expensive. Hell, some things would be more expensive because the government wouldn't be intervening to keep the prices of certain things lower. For example, the government regulates monopolies to protect competition in certain markets, lowering prices for consumers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149316 119214225,119239696,2017-04-02 16:09:17,">>119228044 Tell him you think the govt runs roads like shit too. Traffic jams up the wazoo, kills 30000+ people a year, ruined high speed rail, short haul air infrastructure buildout. It's bred a massive dependence on fossil fuel. It's a ridiculously inefficient and the management is straight up garbage.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491149357 119214225,119239809,2017-04-02 16:10:13,">>119215779 it allows people too much freedom. It allows them the freedom to be degenerate. have you learned nothing from the bible? Degeneracy will seep into your society no unless you have some kind of state to stop it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149413 119214225,119239834,2017-04-02 16:10:24,">>119239471 > THE NAZIS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR WORLD WAR 2!!!!!!! > tfw",,Anonymous,A Meme Is Born.jpg,qAt4lmFpqqrarRjfwDwa1w==,US,,1491149424 119214225,119239875,2017-04-02 16:10:49,">>119228867 Flip the question on him and ask whether food and clothing are more important than roads... and if so, why we rely on the market to provide those things to us.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491149449 119214225,119239931,2017-04-02 16:11:13,">>119239468 Money existed before central banks illiterate monkey It used scarce ressources like you gold,you gived you gived your gold to the bank and the bank gived you a certificate and ex changed this certificate for shit you want to buy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491149473 119214225,119239937,2017-04-02 16:11:15,">>119239468 >Who creates money? Anybody could create money as anybody could choose the currency he wants to be paid in to sell his goods. Every object would be a potential currency >How is it regulated? It would not be regulated >How is it distributed? It wouldn't be ""distributed"", it would be given out as loans by demand",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491149475 119214225,119239964,2017-04-02 16:11:31,">>119239530 >>119239834 > Started wars with everyone So, how Jewish are you? Like, just one side of the senpai, or full-blown kike?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149491 119214225,119240050,2017-04-02 16:12:15,">>119239630 >That's not how math works anon. >implying it's a math sum But if you insist on being this autistic about the axioms: It's a function of time.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491149535 119214225,119240142,2017-04-02 16:13:01,">>119239630 Wow you don't say I was referring to security agencies not natural monopolies Also >regulates monopolies to protect competition That's a contradiction as wherever there is a monopoly there is by definition no competition whatsoever",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491149581 119214225,119240150,2017-04-02 16:13:06,">>119239809 Freedom to be degenerate, and Freedom not to tolerate degeneracy. You know how everywhere around the world ""hatespeech"" and anti-discrimination laws crush white pride movements. the state hates you too buddy. you are a threat to the state so they also stop you from preserving your culture.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149586 119214225,119240210,2017-04-02 16:13:36,">>119239834 >>119239964 >It was DA JOOOOS >Daddy Hitler dindu nuffin",,Anonymous,tiresome.png,z4FctJTScikYURq1l/nsEQ==,SI,,1491149616 119214225,119240295,2017-04-02 16:14:20,">>119239585 Private security,like in your supermarkets,but with guns",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491149660 119214225,119240322,2017-04-02 16:14:33,">>119239964 >blaming all their problems on Jews You guys are almost as pathetic as the Communists.",,Anonymous,snek.png,GznJp622dUaVTw1Hd/EwMw==,US,,1491149673 119214225,119240405,2017-04-02 16:15:27,">>119239931 Thanks I know what money is. My question is about the control of said money.",,Anonymous,1484348009090.jpg,5rhqdndv4DcOK9DIw/qE6Q==,DE,,1491149727 119214225,119240444,2017-04-02 16:15:50,Dont insult our jewish overlords!!,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491149750 119214225,119240510,2017-04-02 16:16:40,">>119240405 NOBODY",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491149800 119214225,119240534,2017-04-02 16:16:52,">>119240150 > freedom to be degenerate > freedom not to tolerate degeneracy You can't have those two and not think that violent conflict is inevitable. >>119240210 Go read the Treaty of Versailles. Then the British-Franco-Polish alliance decree Then Polish history 1935 to Present. Then tell me that line again, so I can laugh at you harder while slapping you in the face with crispy strips of bacon. I'll wait.",,Anonymous,77a85a39c033c6289d13e29ff57c31e59ce6419d37b6495b427ce522d6b76745.jpg,BlZsA5+fchjLWlgOOtFkfA==,US,,1491149812 119214225,119240604,2017-04-02 16:17:31,">>119240444 Fuck white people *autistic screeching in 3...2...1*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491149851 119214225,119240605,2017-04-02 16:17:30,">>119239937 >anybody could choose the currency he wants to be paid in >no regulation >loans as usual though Mmmmh yeah I think this sounds like an unattainable pipedream.",,Anonymous,1487994612768.gif,GVDJep0D6683NAZFInp7yg==,DE,,1491149850 119214225,119240660,2017-04-02 16:17:58,">>119240510 he just wants you to say >IT'S DA JOOZ so he can gtfo and continue fapping to his hitler speeches",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491149878 119214225,119240706,2017-04-02 16:18:27,">>119240322 > Its not the Jews! ""lolberg"" is a thing for a reason.",,Anonymous,6dc8a025cca53eeda8a98c5e162762579c4215fce3609c2d2258deca9974c3f2.gif,jb2UaWNIIHuIuYX8UbyLLA==,US,,1491149907 119214225,119240709,2017-04-02 16:18:29,">>119217940 Dude, no.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491149909 119214225,119240746,2017-04-02 16:18:46,">>119240605 No state = no regulation That's all there is to it",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491149926 119214225,119240802,2017-04-02 16:19:17,">>119216345 >Anarcho Capitalism cannot be degenerate, at least not more so than the state. Do you even know what degenerate means? >Anarcho Capitalism requires a high amount of social interaction in order to get the benefits of living in society, and social interaction exposes you to judgement from your neighbors. Your neighbors who currently think its totally fine to fuck other man and even boys if they consent. Your neighbors who think living like a cave man is healthy. Your neighbors who just want to mind their own business and make their own money. ancap = boring square building with no soul At least its effecient. hell maybe your boss will even give you a place to sleep right in your office. Communism = commie blocks with no soul at least its free Do you really think that the current state of americas degeneracy comes from the government? Just look at modern art galleries. This is what people pay for, meanwhile nobody buys true non degenerate art. You people want to live in a world where Katy perry is the standard for musical artistry. Where a giant canvas with period blood is the highest form of art. A world where culinary arts are extinct because its more profitable for everybody to just eat a protean pill.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149957 119214225,119240852,2017-04-02 16:19:49,">>119240534 I know there will be conflict. whats the issue? think you aren't productive enough to out produce aids-ridden faggot junkies?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149989 119214225,119240854,2017-04-02 16:19:50,">>119240746 But bro... Borders are just another government scam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kszdc0vqIng (Borders are just another government scam) Libertarian Viewpoints on Immigration, Gay Marriage and Abortion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA4XyRcqIpc (Libertarian Viewpoints on Immigration, Gay Marriage and Abortion) Ron Paul: ""Libertarianism is the enemy of all racism"" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnPnAJeVuvw (Ron Paul: ""Libertarianism is the enemy of all racism"") ""'''Libertarian is the enemy of all racism''', because racism is a collectivist idea. Its that, '''you put people in category, you say ""Well blacks belong here, and whites here, and women here"", but we don't''' see people in forms, or, uh, or gays, you don't have rights because you're gays or women or minority, you have rights because you're an individual. So '''we see people ''strictly'' as individuals''', and we get these individuals in a natural way, so its exactly opposite of all collectivism, and its absolutely anti-racism, because '''we don't see it in those terms.'''""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491149990 119214225,119240897,2017-04-02 16:20:18,">>119240605 It was the case in the USA before 1913 You really know nothing right",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491150018 119214225,119240914,2017-04-02 16:20:25,">>119240854 Ron Paul: Immigration not solved by barbed wire, guns http://www.theguardian.com/world/feedarticle/10072567 >Paul blasted politicians who blame immigrants for causing the country's economic problems. He compared the situation to Nazi Germany's targeting of Jews in the 1930s. Ron Paul is Anti-Racist http://www.theguardian.com/world/feedarticle/10072567 >Haaretz: In the past, you have been accused by various groups, including the Anti-Defamation League, of accepting the support of racist and anti-Semitic elements and of not doing anything to distance yourself from them. What is your reaction to this accusation? '''Ron Paul:''' I have always made it clear, and will continue to do so, that my message is based on the rights of all people to be treated equally. '''Any type of racism or anti-Semitism is incompatible with my philosophy.''' '''Ludwig von Mises''', the great economist '''whose writing helped inspire my political career''', '''was a Jew''' who was forced to leave his native Austria to '''escape the Nazis'''. > Mises wrote about the folly of seeing people as part of groups rather than as individuals. > Therefore, '''for me to advance anti-Semitism in any way would be a betrayal of my own intellectual heritage.''' >Nation and race do not coincide; there is no nation of pure blood. All peoples have arisen from a mixture of races. - Ludwig von Mises, Nation, State, and Economy, page 10",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150025 119214225,119241005,2017-04-02 16:21:16,">>119240914 >The fundamental discrepancies in worldview and patterns of behavior do not correspond to differences in race, nationality or class affiliation.' - Ludwig von Mises, Human Action, page 87 >It is neither natural nor necessary that the members of the same race or the inhabitants of the same country cooperate with one another more closely than with members of other races or inhabitants of other countries. The ideas of race solidarity and racial hatred are no less ideas than any other ideas, and only where they are accepted by the individuals do they result in corresponding action. - Ludwig von Mises, The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science, page 81 >There cannot be the slightest doubt that migration barriers diminish the productivity of human labor. - Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism, page 139 >The closed-door policy is one of the root causes of our wars. - Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government, page 263 >Libertarians have generally welcomed immigration, and on very simple grounds. According to the ""non-aggression axiom,"" it is wrong to aggress against the person or property of anyone who has not himself committed such aggression. To restrict the free movement of peoples across borders is thus to engage in unjustified aggression, and is therefore anathema. - Tom Woods, Liberty and Immigration >We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally. - Official Libertarian Political Platform, 2004 election cycle",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150076 119214225,119241011,2017-04-02 16:21:20,">>119240534 >inplying conflict is bad Since degenerates will live in poverty, they will start shit, and they'll be put down.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491150080 119214225,119241034,2017-04-02 16:21:31,">>119229452 Your physically remove is about as likely as the revolution communists harp about. Its not going to happen without the government or some kind of authoritarian group which will then usurp all the power for themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150091 119214225,119241076,2017-04-02 16:21:53,">>119240746 >No state It's completely impossible for a modern economy to exist without a government. A stateless society would require going back to pre-industrial forms of living.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150113 119214225,119241086,2017-04-02 16:21:56,">>119232293 You actually have no idea what a privately managed road system would be like. That's the point. As history has demonstrated over and over, humans are relentlessly creative and innovative at tackling problems when you just let them.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491150116 119214225,119241126,2017-04-02 16:22:18,">>119241011 >Since degenerates will live in poverty, they will start shit, and they'll be put down. Except they so-often don't. There are plenty of folks who are absolute degenerates but have agency.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150138 119214225,119241161,2017-04-02 16:22:38,">>119232686 Is this some new Gunsmith Cats release I'm not aware of?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491150158 119214225,119241197,2017-04-02 16:22:55,">>119241086 >You actually have no idea what a privately managed road system would be like. That's the point. Never change.",,Anonymous,made me laugh much more than it should have.png,tPmrCtaIh3NhaRZsVoQ2/g==,US,,1491150175 119214225,119241255,2017-04-02 16:23:25,">>119240802 I'd advocate for a pinochet-like transition period to get rid off the degeneracy. And yes, today's degeneracy is mostly created through social marxist policies that are applied by the government in western countries since the 60s",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491150205 119214225,119241262,2017-04-02 16:23:29,">>119240534 >Treaty of Versailles Yea it was unfair and the Nazis chimped out like little brats. They lost the fucking war. Deal with it. The treaty wasn't even enforced as well as it should've been and it could've been a lot worse as well. The German people were desperate for a way out because of their treatment and the depression. So they gambled with Hitler. And they lost. And what's really pathetic about you defending him is you want a benevolent angel to appear as well. And you want him to remove all responsibility for your life because maybe then you won't look like such a fuck up.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491150209 119214225,119241286,2017-04-02 16:23:42,">>119241126 When you have a right to disassociate, the actual degenerates will die off. The rich ones lose their influence over you.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491150222 119214225,119241334,2017-04-02 16:24:08,">>119240897 >The US didn't have any laws or regulations until 1913",,Anonymous,1490387708034.jpg,voVdDE4aCfHirFdX6zPI4w==,US,,1491150248 119214225,119241445,2017-04-02 16:25:14,">>119241334 Not in the monetary term",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491150314 119214225,119241520,2017-04-02 16:25:47,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150347 119214225,119241569,2017-04-02 16:26:14,">>119241076 That's absolute bullshit Do you think the government built the factories in the era of industrialization? No, actually the government in many countries (not in the US or UK) regulated industrialization because of muh poor artisans that could lose their income Without government the industrialization in continental europe and russia would have been much faster and much wider than it was in reality",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491150374 119214225,119241570,2017-04-02 16:26:14,">>119241011 >degenerates live in poverty >what are jews >what are drug addicted celebrities >what are pedophile rings in hollywood >what are modern artists >what is psychological warfare >what are assassinations. >inb4 beyonce wouldn't be popular in muh society for un explained reasons >inb4 muh government is responsible for all of this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150374 119214225,119241585,2017-04-02 16:26:20,"Reject impossible and unattainable delusions. Embrace European Aryan Caucasian identity and unity.",,Anonymous,1488528874195.png,At7SSdZAKDiAo24T7eKiRg==,DE,,1491150380 119214225,119241604,2017-04-02 16:26:29,">>119241197 Do you think the government would have created something like 4chan?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491150389 119214225,119241670,2017-04-02 16:26:59,">>119241255 >pinochet-like transition period This is literally no different than when Communists said ""we just need to the vanguard party to have absolute power during the transition period to true communism.......""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150419 119214225,119241700,2017-04-02 16:27:19,">>119240897 wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150439 119214225,119241701,2017-04-02 16:27:19,">>119241585 >unattainable delusions >here looks at my utopia >collapses in 12 years Yeah fuck off",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491150439 119214225,119241717,2017-04-02 16:27:30,">>119241262 > salty > as > fuck You didn't get the message though Schlomo. I said read the Treaty of Versailles. You got that part. THEN, I said read the France-British-Polish alliance decree. THEN, I said read the history of Poland 35' to Present. THEN you can come back and talk shit, at which point I will continue to laugh at you, harder than before, while slapping you with the delicious pig-products you so-despise. The conversation was on the topic of 'did the Nazis start World War 2', and you basically admitted outright in this post that, no, they did not. So here's where I start laughing at you, and then, if you want more keks and bacon-slaps, then you can go do what I told you, and then you can come back. Here we go. PFFFFFFFFFFFFTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >>119241286 > ""But freedom to dissociate violates my freedom to be a degenerate!"" And it all comes tumbling down. Its like you've learned nothing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150450 119214225,119241757,2017-04-02 16:27:47,">>119240802 >Just look at modern art galleries. This is what people pay for, meanwhile nobody buys true non degenerate art. You people want to live in a world where Katy perry is the standard for musical artistry. Where a giant canvas with period blood is the highest form of art. A world where culinary arts are extinct because its more profitable for everybody to just eat a protean pill. degeneracy comes from leftist tolerance, and egalitarianism. its communists saying ""this nigger heroin faggot is equally acceptable as you white family man"" thats a political agenda, not a buisness model. this is not capitalism its communists trying to destroy us so they can install they're system. you of all people should know this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150467 119214225,119241811,2017-04-02 16:28:22,">>119241604 So not the point, lolly... That said: Didn't the internet start as a government, or rather military, project?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150502 119214225,119241815,2017-04-02 16:28:23,">>119241670 Except that the free market actually works and is sustainable and socialism is neither",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491150503 119214225,119241817,2017-04-02 16:28:24,">>119240854 >>119240914 >>119241005 Oh my god,do you mean libertarianism isn't an hivemind ! Rothbard was a race realist,yes (((rothbard))) faggot because they aren't a hivemind",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491150504 119214225,119241839,2017-04-02 16:28:34,">>119241717 >basically admitted outright in this post that, no, they did not. >the Nazis chimped out like little brats Retard.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491150514 119214225,119241855,2017-04-02 16:28:43,*their,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150523 119214225,119241887,2017-04-02 16:28:55,">>119241569 >Do you think the government built the factories in the era of industrialization? Never even remotely suggested that anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150535 119214225,119241984,2017-04-02 16:29:47,">>119241701 Why would you think it's desirable to copy the Third Reich in it's entirety? Bits and pieces here and there, with other ideologies.",,Anonymous,1490726946557_second.png,wblv0pfrqPF2NQKViymQwQ==,DE,,1491150587 119214225,119241996,2017-04-02 16:29:51,">>119241700 The federal reserve existed only after 1913 Before you had no central banks",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491150591 119214225,119242110,2017-04-02 16:30:46,">>119241887 >no government = no industry So >government = industry That was the premise you formulated >>119241984 >this time we do it right Sounds like the ""that wasn't real communism"" phrase to me",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491150646 119214225,119242180,2017-04-02 16:31:31,">>119241839 >Treaty of Versailles > Yea it was unfair > OY VEY WHADDA YA MEAN DA DEAL WASN'T FAIR!? BGOYIM, YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE BACK YOUR LAND! GIBS SHEKELS! ALRIGHT, FUCK YOU GOY, WE'LL BAIT YOU INTO ANOTHER WORLD WAR IN THE EXACT SAME WAY THE FIRST ONE STARTED! WHAT? NO, FUCK THE POLISH! WE'RE DOING THIS THING! > 70 years later... > and the Nazis chimped out like little brats Thank you for reminding me to bring your Semitism to the forefront. Hit those books kikel.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150691 119214225,119242380,2017-04-02 16:33:27,">>119241817 > lolbergs aren't a hivemind I never said they were. I just said they were morally-stunted Judaic shits, promoting a kosher brand of overt individualism that is inherently self-defeating where applied.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150807 119214225,119242412,2017-04-02 16:33:39,">>119242180 >poland false flag you >invade It >France and Britain's intervene Great diplomat",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491150819 119214225,119242444,2017-04-02 16:33:58,">>119241811 The government doesn't invent anything. The people it hires or recruits from the private sector invent things. It's literally just the middleman and a brutally inefficient, unjust, and monopolistic one at that. In the case of the internet, see Xerox PARC Politicians and bureaucrats don't build roads, private contractors do.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491150838 119214225,119242526,2017-04-02 16:34:41,">>119241757 >degeneracy comes from leftist tolerance, and egalitarianism. This is a libertarian society. There is nothing wrong with being socially liberal. >a political agenda, not a buisness model So whats stopping them from doing that in your society. But it is in fact a business model. >this is not capitalism its communists trying to destroy us so they can install they're system. So whats stopping ((((communists)))) from trying to destroy you from within your libertarian society? >this nigger heroin faggot is equally acceptable as you white family man In a libertarian society it is. As long as that nigger heroin faggot makes as much money as the family man it will not matter to people selling him food. Your entire argument for why your system will work is >muh people will be good Please tell me how modern artists such as Kanye west wouldn't be popular.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150881 119214225,119242534,2017-04-02 16:34:46,">>119242180 What a fucking idiot. THEY LOST. Any amount of mercy is up to the winners. It's not fair, no. But that's the way it is. And it's ancaps who aren't in touch with human nature...",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491150886 119214225,119242593,2017-04-02 16:35:17,">>119242412 Is that why they handed the Poles over to Stalin? Because they were 'intervening' for the good of the Polish, never even declared war on the Soviets despite their having done exactly what Germany did and about two weeks after Germany did it? Seems legit Schlomo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150917 119214225,119242620,2017-04-02 16:35:36,">>119242380 Nope,we just aren't cunts who intervene in others problems And we have degenerates in our ranks,it's true,but you also have your skinhead",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491150936 119214225,119242668,2017-04-02 16:36:04,">>119242444 So, I take it that's a really autistic lolly way of saying 'yes, it was a government/military project, and I understand how my previous question was retarded'?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491150964 119214225,119242727,2017-04-02 16:36:34,Aren't gays disproportionately represented among STEM? Don't gays statistically earn more money than straights?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491150994 119214225,119242744,2017-04-02 16:36:39,Anarchic roads work even in russia,,Anonymous,1491157428793.png,HF6tF1Ny3KCfYm8rzBDrJg==,DE,,1491150999 119214225,119242778,2017-04-02 16:36:59,">>119242110 >no government = no industry Basically true. Let's look at a land with no government, do you see any industry? Pic very related. >government = industry Not necessarily. Like you said, the government can't do everything on its own, although it can push things in the right direction, sometimes. >>119242444 >Politicians and bureaucrats don't build roads, private contractors do. And who pays those contractors anon?",,Anonymous,152309-004-B86402CF.jpg,45650IB67uotDITswbOMWg==,US,,1491151019 119214225,119242874,2017-04-02 16:37:59,">>119242778 >Basically true. Let's look at a land with no government, do you see any industry? Pic very related. Holy shit an actual retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491151079 119214225,119242890,2017-04-02 16:38:05,">>119242593 And you had the Molotov-Ribbentrov pact Sounds like realpolitik don't always works in your way",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491151085 119214225,119242991,2017-04-02 16:39:09,">>119242110 >this time we won't be subverted by jews guys because we will have or non existent government stop them. Or wait, do you really believe most people in society are as politically active as you? Most people just want to make some money and go home. It doesn't matter where that money comes from. The same reason nike still exists despite their evil sweatshop thing. Liberals are the majority and they really cared. Despite this most regular folks don't give a shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491151149 119214225,119243010,2017-04-02 16:39:19,">>119242778 The Sahara is under the Algerian government But you seem to don't understand how market work so that's fine",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491151159 119214225,119243122,2017-04-02 16:40:13,">>119242526 Would you serve faggots niggers and junkies in your white community? Even if the state was no longer forcing you to like they do right now in reality with anti-discrimination and anti-white laws? The state IS a Socialist hand that seeks to destroy the both of us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491151213 119214225,119243126,2017-04-02 16:40:16,">>119242620 >we just aren't cunts who intervene in others problems Like I said, morally-stunted Judaic shits, promoting a kosher brand of overt individualism that is inherently self-defeating where applied. And skinheads? Really? That's the card you've going to try to play? Your degenerates are representative of your ideals, 'our' skinheads are mostly misguided youths or ex-cons who espouse an exceedingly kosher interpretation of National Socialism, aka Spielberg's interpretation. Some guy who thinks being NatSoc is about screaming madly while shooting a pistol into a pile of burning Jew bodies is not representative of the ideology which you are applying to me, while some guy claiming to have the right of sticking a rainbow horse-cock dildo up his ass is, I would suggest, representative of the ideology which I am applying to you... And I grant you, you also believe you should be free to not tolerate that shit, but again, the inevitable outcome of that is violent conflict, which will likely - almost certainly, in fact - lead to the downfall of the lolberg society as a strong militarized force takes over and dominates, forming a state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491151216 119214225,119243238,2017-04-02 16:41:09,">>119242778 Because there are no people idiot and no ""no gov = no industry"" is not true, in the US you had almost no government in the mid 1800s and you had the biggest economic and industrial boom of all nations on the whole fucking planet >gov pushes things in the right directions More often than not it pushes things in the wrong direction because of short sighted decisions, ideology or popularity issues >>119242991 Believe in your zog and fap to a swastika if it helps you from not committing suicide faggot but don't give me your bullshit",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491151269 119214225,119243240,2017-04-02 16:41:12,">>119242778 Don't you know everyone will team together with the power of friendship and magic to pay for the roads. Libertarianism will always work because friendship is magic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491151272 119214225,119243272,2017-04-02 16:41:29,">>119243126 Kristalnacht Nice not true scotman faggot",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491151289 119214225,119243513,2017-04-02 16:43:35,">>119242890 Totally irrelevant in context Frog. The question was, did the Nazis start World War 2. Its already established the Treaty of Versailles was unfair; thus Germans reclaiming their land is legitimate, even without any alternative motive, despite such being present in Poland. Frogs and Britcucks made a deal with Poland, 'we will protect you bro! we will intervene if ebul nadzees invade!'... Nazis invade, Brits and French declare war on Nazis... Two weeks later, Soviets do exact same thing; Brits and Frogs are silent... After the war? ""Oh, uh, soooorry Polish government in exile in London - we gave your nation to the Communists. Thems the breaks when you're the baits, m8s.""... And 70 years later, I've got some hyper-individualists who think there are good Jews telling me private roads would be best and the Nazis started it all by 'chimping out'. Seems. Fuckin. Legit. Schlomo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491151415 119214225,119243589,2017-04-02 16:44:16,">>119242778 With money stolen from us.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491151456 119214225,119243684,2017-04-02 16:45:12,">>119243272 What about Kristalnacht? It was awesome and fully deserved, but that's a total non-sequitor. Are you actually going to try to suggest Spielberg's interpretation of the Nazis is legitimate? Are we actually going there? Is that how far this place has fallen?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491151512 119214225,119243774,2017-04-02 16:46:03,">>119242668 Seriously. Read up on Xerox PARC. Inventors of ethernet. The entirety of darpanet ran on PARC machines. Btw, if DARPA hadn't gone with ethernet, we would have way more robust and efficient form of network protocol. Their decision was arbitrary.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491151563 119214225,119243794,2017-04-02 16:46:19,">>119243513 They signed the treaty because they lost the war and Clémanceau went full madman Even though it's your land reclaiming it after signing the treaty And fear no conséquences is retarded",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491151579 119214225,119243796,2017-04-02 16:46:22,">>119243513 >thus Germans reclaiming their land is legitimate You what you idiot? I changed my mind. It WAS fair. To the winner go the spoils. They should've been grateful they weren't slaughtered. That's what happens in nature all the time. >Boo hoo we have to pay a bit of money and can't have tanks. >Now we're just gonna invade to take back our stuff from those meanies So fucking dumb.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491151582 119271115,119271115,2017-04-02 21:02:14,i want another /lrg/ but i don't have the sticky,/lrg/ - libertarian right general,Anonymous,t3_62x0r8.png,5uInfPj+AePwBJ3K0SIW2A==,NL,,1491166934 119271115,119272042,2017-04-02 21:11:21,">>119271115 How would libertarians deal with mass 3rd world immigration?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491167481 119271115,119272631,2017-04-02 21:17:36,">>119271115 if there is no welfare state, third worlders will have less of an incentive to migrate. but if the threat is still high, as a minarchist i would say close the national borders for everyone, and only let selected applicants in, which would only be first worlders with western values.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491167856 119271115,119272656,2017-04-02 21:17:53,">>119272042 >>119272631",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491167873 119318473,119318473,2017-04-03 07:38:44,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - MEMES EDITION,Anonymous,pinochet death squads pol logo.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,SK,,1491205124 119318473,119318546,2017-04-03 07:39:53,,,Anonymous,reading list lrg.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,SK,,1491205193 119318473,119318588,2017-04-03 07:40:34,,,Anonymous,hoppe.png,hoAecKPjbt7U2Jqhfwk81A==,SK,,1491205234 119318473,119318664,2017-04-03 07:41:37,,,Anonymous,lrg tiers.jpg,Ih5kYEktvivoO7oz5G1xhQ==,SK,,1491205297 119318473,119319050,2017-04-03 07:46:51,"Holy shit, they've slept in AGAIN.",,Anonymous,unimpressed puppet mouse.jpg,FsGhOjV1WpgL4pK6E4MXSg==,SK,,1491205611 119318473,119319262,2017-04-03 07:49:44,RiP /mlpol/,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491205784 119318473,119319402,2017-04-03 07:51:13,">>119319262 Horsefucking violates the NAP AND nobody wants to live around a horsefucker. They kept the reddit out, at least. Gore should be allowed, to keep shills out.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491205873 119318473,119319731,2017-04-03 07:55:44,">>119318473 People like based OP are the reason I come to /pol/ desu",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491206144 119318473,119319968,2017-04-03 07:59:17,">>119319731 same",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491206357 119318473,119319982,2017-04-03 07:59:26,">>119319731 Thanks, mate. The regulars aren't here, though. Shame on them, keeping a general running around the clock is pretty hard.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491206366 119318473,119320044,2017-04-03 08:00:14,">>119319050 The previous thread on ancapism started really slow and all of the sudden 500 posts. We just need a bit of shitposting to get it rolling.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491206414 119318473,119320056,2017-04-03 08:00:22,">>119319968 You're here from the previous thread? Ayy. You need to check out the /pol/ minecraft server, some faggot demolished Valetta.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491206422 119318473,119320136,2017-04-03 08:01:25,">>119320044 Really? Fuck, I guess I left too early. Hope you managed to contain the sperghetti. Any discussion topics?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491206485 119318473,119320441,2017-04-03 08:05:53,">>119320136 was mostly people not understanding decentralized law, although one Spain anon got convinced into reading Hoppe after explaining how covenants would establish age of consent on their own interest so everything was worth it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491206753 119318473,119320514,2017-04-03 08:06:57,">>119320441 Yeah. Basically, the principle isn't even necessarily the complete lack of government, it's the lack of monopoly on force. If you act like a dick, you're going to lose all of your power.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491206817 119318473,119320608,2017-04-03 08:08:09,">>119318473 day of the rotor soon",,Anonymous,Pepechet.jpg,E3l7xecXcrBJcTNVADaHnA==,PT,,1491206889 119318473,119320912,2017-04-03 08:11:42,">>119320514 People mostly fail to realize that an anarcho capitalist society is literally a market of laws, you buy the law that's more convenient for you by purchasing property, and this leads to market optimization. They try to strawman us (often with support of other, not so well-read anarcho capitalists) with the impossibility of enforcement of the NAP, but the NAP is only the minimum and it's not even necessary for Anarcho Capitalism, in my house there are more rules that don't kill and don't steal. What Anarcho capitalism needs is exclusively real, unconditional private property.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491207102 119318473,119321163,2017-04-03 08:15:00,">>119320912 >you buy the law that's more convenient for you by purchasing property, and this leads to market optimization. Cool, can I buy a law that says I'm in charge of everybody else?",,Anonymous,1490504505593.jpg,ruEracrcq37UfH3ipyLDqQ==,US,,1491207300 119318473,119321662,2017-04-03 08:20:26,">>119321163 Is anybody in charge of a covenant that would put you in a leadership position? Would anyone join a covenant where you're in charge of them?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491207626 119318473,119321764,2017-04-03 08:21:35,">>119321163 I don't think there's enough market demand for properties where you can be in charge of everybody else. But maybe I'm wrong, man.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491207695 119318473,119322028,2017-04-03 08:24:15,">>119321163 That's the case in the current system. As long as you have the numbers. If there's a ton of statists in an area of course it won't be ancap.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491207855 119318473,119322042,2017-04-03 08:24:25,">>119320912 The NAP mainly just means ""don't act like a dindu"". Mostly, people will make their own rules on their property, with properties with similar rules forming covenants, preferably next to one another to prevent conflict. The topic of discussion is: When is it necessary to evict a person from a covenant? And in what scenario is it necessary to go into conflict with another covenant, if all diplomatic options fail?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491207865 119318473,119322210,2017-04-03 08:26:13,">>119322028 If the statists try to gain AnCap territory, they've compromised themselves and have made themselves a target. Will their government protect them from retaliation?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491207973 119318473,119323164,2017-04-03 08:36:35,">>119322042 If they're a health hazard imo. If he's insured the insurer would likely stipulate in the contract that if he's a suspect of a crime he'd get investigated. So if he's breaking people's shit or being a danger to those around him he'd get fined or go on trial. And if he's refusing to cooperate you'd do the same a government would. Besides you can still deny him service in the community. I doubt he'd stick around long without access to even the basics or road access. >>119322210 >Will their government protect them from retaliation? Depends on the situation. If it's a tiny group looking to expand I guess they'd get btfo by the ancap forces. If it's a superstate like the US looking to get back its territory there's nothing you can do really. Just wait for them to go away then undermine their authority again with counter economics.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491208595 119318473,119323394,2017-04-03 08:39:11,">>119322042 When is it necessary to evict a person from a covenant? Having provisions for most human nature shortcomings (like voting in favor of what will destroy you) will be the main factor for covenants prosperity. So, eviction would happen under the breach of those signed provisions and would be totally justified. >in what scenario is it necessary to go into conflict with another covenant I believe insurance/security firms that didn't cover the possibility of fair ruling in case of conflict with competing law frames (through external independent agencies) would fail terribly in the market we're using for hypothesis, what do you think?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491208751 119318473,119323772,2017-04-03 08:42:40,,,Anonymous,gimme.jpg,nmha1rBG/ArAdq/3WPH6rw==,AU,,1491208960 119318473,119323869,2017-04-03 08:43:51,">>119323164 I think that guerilla warfare should be used against larger armies. IEDs, ambushes, scorched earth (when possible) are all viable strategies.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491209031 119318473,119324427,2017-04-03 08:49:28,">>119323772 GIMME MY GUN",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491209368 119318473,119324593,2017-04-03 08:51:14,">>119323394 Valid points. I was thinking more like two ideologically incompatible covenants (one might be a state) going to war.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491209474 119318473,119324659,2017-04-03 08:52:00,">>119323772 GIMME MY GUN Aussies need weapons to protect their land.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491209520 119318473,119325228,2017-04-03 08:58:06,">>119322042 Evict someone if they breach a contract or breach self-ownership, i.e. use aggressive force. This applies to covenants too. Conflict should only occur if collectives or individuals have breached a contract or used aggressive violence. Over time, covenants would confederate and diplomacy would be a lot more effective.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491209886 119318473,119325677,2017-04-03 09:03:18,">>119318546 Are there any of these on UK amazon which aren't in large print?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491210198 119318473,119325876,2017-04-03 09:05:33,">>119323772 GIMME MY GUN",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491210333 119318473,119325911,2017-04-03 09:05:59,">>119318473 You're in your debate club and this guy starts talking about the social contract. Wat do? Btw, he's 1.40m 50 kg.",,Anonymous,pajama boy.jpg,0GLh2HLpYdg0zYeD15yfLg==,CR,,1491210359 119318473,119326260,2017-04-03 09:09:41,">>119318473 Communism doesn't w.......",,Anonymous,beijing.jpg,1nYwLZSaHgGz887yNQI79w==,US,,1491210581 119318473,119327183,2017-04-03 09:19:27,">>119325911 Throw him from helicopter, duh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491211167 119318473,119328492,2017-04-03 09:33:23,"Bump, I like when Slovenia makes the thread. I can trust him not to be a cuck.",,Anonymous,hsm__101_.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1491212003 119318473,119329112,2017-04-03 09:40:00,"Bump. Don't be a road cuck, folks.",,Anonymous,No_Roads.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1491212400 119318473,119329262,2017-04-03 09:41:45,,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1491212505 119318473,119329573,2017-04-03 09:44:57,,,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1491212697 119318473,119329598,2017-04-03 09:45:15,,,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1491212715 119318473,119329970,2017-04-03 09:48:55,,,Anonymous,Classic.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,US,,1491212935 119318473,119330000,2017-04-03 09:49:14,,,Anonymous,Classic2.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1491212954 119318473,119330035,2017-04-03 09:49:36,,,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1491212976 119318473,119330065,2017-04-03 09:49:56,,,Anonymous,Veteran.png,qOMwNUw+PBhJvlZvg5vbsw==,US,,1491212996 119318473,119330088,2017-04-03 09:50:13,,,Anonymous,Trump.png,44Tjo5DcQI2gm+m8bIuGvA==,US,,1491213013 119318473,119330125,2017-04-03 09:50:36,,,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,US,,1491213036 119318473,119330164,2017-04-03 09:51:02,,,Anonymous,AnarcoCanadianism.png,PT7LTE19cU1x/SSnjlrcJA==,US,,1491213062 119318473,119330193,2017-04-03 09:51:20,,,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1491213080 119318473,119330237,2017-04-03 09:51:51,,,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1491213111 119318473,119330274,2017-04-03 09:52:17,,,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1491213137 119318473,119330305,2017-04-03 09:52:40,,,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,US,,1491213160 119318473,119330328,2017-04-03 09:52:58,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1491213178 119318473,119330372,2017-04-03 09:53:25,,,Anonymous,Banner.png,nYdagc4xxLqNBLQdxrNn3g==,US,,1491213205 119318473,119330412,2017-04-03 09:53:46,,,Anonymous,PunksNotRed.png,KVDtOyxxpe5kskjV+69peg==,US,,1491213226 119318473,119330471,2017-04-03 09:54:21,,,Anonymous,Monarchy.png,shQ0vXATgrTRWOoqBgtuOg==,US,,1491213261 119318473,119330734,2017-04-03 09:57:09,Fuck Off Commies,,Anonymous,donttreadonme2.png,f/qDL0jQp3oYE7hegLSz+A==,US,,1491213429 119318473,119330769,2017-04-03 09:57:30,">>119330000 Chekt",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491213450 119318473,119331060,2017-04-03 10:00:53,Reminder that r/libertarians must be physically removedfrom our movement.,,Anonymous,Normal_Ancap.png,0cj87/YtlHkwyisfLCRUVQ==,US,,1491213653 119318473,119331685,2017-04-03 10:07:51,,,Anonymous,snek (9).png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1491214071 119318473,119332199,2017-04-03 10:13:29,,,Anonymous,GET OUT.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1491214409 119318473,119332335,2017-04-03 10:15:02,When will you goy realise who m00t really is,,Anonymous,1391818254661.png,HmF3kD5HM++d3SWTVGe+FQ==,GB,,1491214502 119318473,119332558,2017-04-03 10:17:20,>>119332335,,Anonymous,ben.jpg,jrB0L1b8ltds5574v6VHDw==,US,,1491214640 119318473,119332606,2017-04-03 10:17:41,">>119318473 These people have described the way to start a succesfull anarchocapitalism... have a read! Start here: http://memeticprincipalityofkek.club/index.php?topic=1.0 And then here: http://memeticprincipalityofkek.club/index.php?topic=40",,Anonymous,369ae4cf6d8d419987db2ca222772bb6.png,Nprkz22NQZmH2yyiIncrtg==,ES,,1491214661 119318473,119332820,2017-04-03 10:19:58,">>119332606 I'm not living with a bunch of trap-lovers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491214798 119318473,119333432,2017-04-03 10:25:54,">>119332820 >>119332199 >>119331685 >>119331060 >>119330471 >>119330412 >>119330372 >>119330328 >>119330305 >>119330274 >>119330237 >>119330193 >>119330164 >>119330125 >>119330088 >>119330065 >>119330035 >>119330000 >>119329970 >>119329598 >>119329573 >>119329262 >>119329112 I appreciate the black and yellow dump but pls no spamming",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491215154 119318473,119336062,2017-04-03 10:51:11,Thanks to the anon who posted this last night,,Anonymous,1491161337604.png,N1a+QThhl0g8UaoaMc+JEw==,CA,,1491216671 119318473,119336126,2017-04-03 10:51:50,,,Anonymous,what libertarianism really is VS. what pol thinks it is.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,CA,,1491216710 119318473,119336877,2017-04-03 10:59:51,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491217191 119318473,119337957,2017-04-03 11:10:32,>>119318473,,Anonymous,lets black and yellow (black and yellow) this whole corner.png,wi9zaSpzg58ZCQ8120gqBw==,US,,1491217832 119318473,119338046,2017-04-03 11:11:15,">>119318546 These links do not work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491217875 119318473,119338373,2017-04-03 11:14:39,">>119336062 right on man, glad you like it. we must save the libertarian movement. >>119338046 works for me. paste em in the url.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491218079 119318473,119338443,2017-04-03 11:15:12,"Anyone ever been to /r/libertarian? It should be renamed to /r/liberal",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491218112 119318473,119338721,2017-04-03 11:17:50,">>119338443 tell them we should defend our borders and watch them call you a nazi. its fucking embarassing.",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1491218270 119318473,119339428,2017-04-03 11:24:31,">defence >not private",,Anonymous,1490448658309.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,AU,,1491218671 119318473,119339568,2017-04-03 11:25:46,">>119337957 REEEEEEEEEEE they are fighting back",,Anonymous,spongebob.jpg,+TbY9s9ssTEvqzxdfW/wAg==,US,,1491218746 119318473,119339825,2017-04-03 11:28:11,waddup guys,,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1491218891 119318473,119340035,2017-04-03 11:30:02,">>119339825 Wassap dude.",,Anonymous,HoppeTrips.png,4ROOvuFqkxjpUPyJkRnS7Q==,US,,1491219002 119318473,119340067,2017-04-03 11:30:18,">>119329112 Roads were also unironically built so states could better send their armies and taxmen to peoples' front doors. I read somewhere that even in the Roman Empire the people hated the fucking roads.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491219018 119318473,119340165,2017-04-03 11:31:06,">>119340035 blessed be thine trips, so to speak",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1491219066 119318473,119340186,2017-04-03 11:31:17,">>119338721 >thread about ending welfare >on fucking /r/libertarian >why do you hate poor people, blacks and single moms you shitlord >this is the most upvoted post",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491219077 119318473,119340424,2017-04-03 11:33:39,">>119340186 show me the thread, I refuse to believe it's that bad.",,Anonymous,hhh physical removal.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,PT,,1491219219 119318473,119340455,2017-04-03 11:33:57,">>119340186 Why wouldn't it be? Any logical person would be suspicious on a system that claims to want eliminate all government, yet seems to focus most intensely on the parts of the government that benefit non-rich people......",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491219237 119318473,119340866,2017-04-03 11:37:52,">>119337957 These computer generated memes are really shitty. The CIA needs to step up their game, no wonder NSA thinks they are retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491219472 119318473,119340941,2017-04-03 11:38:32,"not sure if you guys are skin woggers or not matresses are antenna grids vaccines are little ufos (so is gmo corn syrup, and chlorine bath water) croc eyes glow red white and blue at night theres ufo sightings every week in south america, just youtube 'south america ufo' and filter < one week.",,Anonymous,fVliNes.png,9nPohgQLD7pxmdWOMYWeCA==,US,,1491219512 119318473,119340983,2017-04-03 11:38:56,>>119340941,,Anonymous,pupils.png,YUhacJlmg+AB9+9t5zoDqQ==,US,,1491219536 119318473,119341447,2017-04-03 11:43:14,">>119340983 >>119340941 What? Are y you saying vaccines turn us into ayys?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491219794 119318473,119341806,2017-04-03 11:46:32,">>119341447 ya eventually they will, they are mutant dna =x",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491219992 119318473,119342163,2017-04-03 11:50:03,Does someone have the smug pepe Hoppe with the machinegun without the background? I'm trying to make a dank wallpaper our of it.,,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1491220203 119318473,119342513,2017-04-03 11:53:24,">>119342163 I got you senpai",,Anonymous,HOPPE-Recovered.png,1wPaBRZcBLAdtLRnqap+ng==,US,,1491220404 119318473,119342676,2017-04-03 11:54:59,">>119342513 THANK YOU I'll post the wallpaper in a bit",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491220499 119318473,119342917,2017-04-03 11:57:17,">>119340455 > >Why wouldn't it be? Any logical person would be suspicious on a system that claims to want eliminate all government, yet seems to focus most intensely on the parts of the government that benefit non-rich people...... The presupposition that there is only a class of rich and non rich, with no enlightened in between, is false. The middle class exists, and the more literate it becomes the closer it gets to panemiming the behavior of the upper class. Acting as a translation layer the middle class facilitates cultural growth and exchanges between the other two classes. The assumption that subverting the post enlightenment foundation of liberty with information warfare and communism is somehow beneficial to the lowest class is false. It's beneficial to the upper class, by limiting exchanges between the classes and thus allowing the upper class to isolate power. These limitations are created by marxist political doctrine and are detrimental to the poor, not benificial to the poor. Your post is a textbook example of psychological subversion. Tell the poor that what the rich want, the isolation of information and power in the upper class, is somehow good for them. You say that a logical person would be suspicious of liberty, Project Mockingbird in a nutshell! Tell poor people they are stupid if they don't want to be enslaved by a communist government! That ought to work! Your post ... is exactly what the problem.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491220637 119318473,119342922,2017-04-03 11:57:24,here's one for the threads...,,Anonymous,lrg hoppe_00000.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,PT,,1491220644 119318473,119343109,2017-04-03 11:59:12,">>119342917 >non-rich means only poor people >non-rich doesn't include the middle class by definition",,Anonymous,1490389889601.gif,YmIy91OUTYYXuTJl930vjw==,US,,1491220752 119318473,119343172,2017-04-03 11:59:54,"and one UUUU Also, if the guy who did this Hoppe did a Rothbard Pepe and a Mises Pepe that would be spectacular.",,Anonymous,hoppe wallpaper.png,6FFkhfNPzOTFG7fBozaoCw==,PT,,1491220794 119318473,119343396,2017-04-03 12:01:58,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491220918 119318473,119344055,2017-04-03 12:07:57,">>119343172 Yeah I'll put something together for you in a bit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491221277 119318473,119344371,2017-04-03 12:10:48,">>119344055 Wow, thanks man. Respect!",,Anonymous,1442623-1-L.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,PT,,1491221448 119318473,119346118,2017-04-03 12:26:55,bump,,Anonymous,1461029508928.jpg,e7vmyynlh/1tuMX84HbbpQ==,PT,,1491222415 119318473,119346561,2017-04-03 12:30:51,bump,,Anonymous,1490905413624.png,v0xaTHYX88eQb2amKFrEiw==,DE,,1491222651 119318473,119348850,2017-04-03 12:52:13,The rarest Hoppe I have: Hoppe and Ludwig von Rothbark,,Anonymous,rarest Hoppe.png,jcW2kw2VYjBTtZ35LyMwDQ==,PT,,1491223933 119318473,119351400,2017-04-03 13:14:31,bump,,Anonymous,awesome image.png,eb640y8BE7QVZtqFdaxdCg==,PT,,1491225271 119318473,119352030,2017-04-03 13:19:59,">>119336062 A little edgy but I like it.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491225599 119318473,119353653,2017-04-03 13:33:39,,,Anonymous,pinochettrump.png,9b5h1m4+z1QFDlsEB4sgpw==,CZ,,1491226419 119318473,119353828,2017-04-03 13:34:59,">>119336062 Nice pic but the rainbow colors are, IMHO, quite appealing and should not be used to denote something negative.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491226499 119318473,119355165,2017-04-03 13:46:30,">>119353828 >appealing",,Anonymous,maxresdefault (1).jpg,ziUiAkj0sCojIGNoP9jTyQ==,PT,,1491227190 119318473,119355943,2017-04-03 13:53:04,There can be no tolerance toward roads and highways in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from the ground.,,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann-Hoppe.jpg,zVZ0InGyewa34BpNREyHUQ==,BR,,1491227584 119318473,119356088,2017-04-03 13:54:25,">>119355943 kek",,Anonymous,hoppe parrot.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,PT,,1491227665 119318473,119356298,2017-04-03 13:56:14,">>119353828 I agree. Instead but rainbow colors the jew brackets should have been used, but the pic is still great",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491227774 119318473,119356471,2017-04-03 13:57:41,"Is it true that every libertarian should be familiar with a series of economic concept so as to analyze every situation from an economic point of view? >tfw I must re-read human action with proper note taking >tfw there is SO MUCH shit I want to read",,Anonymous,human_action.jpg,Q8ekXgUEjKBWCf1xPi+15g==,CA,,1491227861 119318473,119356681,2017-04-03 13:59:37,">>119356471 >tfw school gets in the way of snekonomics hold me",,Anonymous,1490326624388.png,8ZaSPLketAA1qk0QPFUxxA==,CA,,1491227977 119318473,119356769,2017-04-03 14:00:20,"Hello, my name is lil' Adolf, you might know me from famous movies like ""World War II"" or ""ITZ OHL DA JOOOOOOOZ!!!!"". Today I want to tell you a little fairy tale about how National (((Socialism))) will help to ensl... err I mean save! the Germans and put everyone else in their place, because it's TOTALLY no socialism. So let's begin. Once upon a time, jews. Checkmate. >>119323772 GIMME MY GUN Every free man and woman shall wear a weapon for self-defense",,Anonymous,1491003101993.jpg,h1BIB7kChxrltDQq8Eo6Mg==,DE,,1491228020 119318473,119357528,2017-04-03 14:06:04,">>119356298 Sorry to be the grammar nazi brehs but there's a typo in the beginning of the third paragraph: >We must not tolerate egalitaianism IS(!!) any shape or form Other than that, great pic. I don't mind the colors desu.",,Anonymous,1490844652609.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,DE,,1491228364 119318473,119357783,2017-04-03 14:08:05,"Am I the only one who thinks Jesus was an Anarcho-Capitalist? There's little to no statism in Catholicism. In fact, the first arguments in favor of liberty were religious arguments. It makes sense. If God created me as an individual with free-will, who the fuck are you to try and take that away from me? Don't quote Romans 13 on me unless you want to get rekt. It speaks about ""authorities"". Statist Christians must read ""authority"" as synonymous with ""state"". And even if the authority in question is a state, it still doesn't fit the ""established by God"" part. How can an authority established by God break most of the 10 Commandments? In fact, the state MUST break the 10 Commandments in order to exist. It's a great leap of logic to assume the state is an authority established by God. Statist Christians really rustle my jimmies.",,Anonymous,jesus.jpg,+Rt9DBBbI+NUW4iw9X+fTA==,BR,,1491228485 119318473,119357943,2017-04-03 14:09:15,">>119357783 He was more like an anarcho-communist",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491228555 119318473,119358102,2017-04-03 14:10:20,">>119357943 How so?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491228620 119318473,119358107,2017-04-03 14:10:21,">has a problem >asks the government to fix it for him How do we convince people that this is the epitome of cuckoldry? >>119356471 Yes it's impossible to understand libertarian philosophy and ethics without having at least a basic understanding of economics, the benefits of free trade and the detrimental effects of government action on the economy. Don't read Human Action. Go for Sowell's basic economics instead.",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1491228621 119318473,119358147,2017-04-03 14:10:38,">>119356471 >>119356681 Start with An Agorist Primer and Anatomy of the State for small-sized bites. Then move on to Hoppe and proper Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491228638 119318473,119358289,2017-04-03 14:11:39,">>119357528 REEEE now I have to fix it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491228699 119318473,119358358,2017-04-03 14:12:14,">>119357943 Btw all communism requires some form of a state. Anarcho-Communism is an Atheist Theist.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491228734 119318473,119358484,2017-04-03 14:13:11,">>119357783 >tfw atheist but believe that ""freedom = knowledge of good and evil"" and that thus the fall is to be equated with our ability to consciously chose >tfw, under this view, these choices must necessarily be made in the knowledge that every choice is also a negation of what is not chosen, thereby causing suffering >tfw you realize that choice itself has as a prerequisite the notion of ""limit"", as the limitless being cannot chose I think it's okay to think about religious stories without being a theist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491228791 119318473,119358724,2017-04-03 14:14:45,">>119358358 anarcho-communism is redundant anyway. Marx defined the final form of communism to be stateless. But I agree, stateless communism is a fairy-tale",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491228885 119318473,119358906,2017-04-03 14:16:01,">>119358289 REEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,miau.png,B6ayGGKlkktw4Ez2K4W1wA==,DE,,1491228961 119318473,119358909,2017-04-03 14:16:02,">>119358107 >Don't read Human Action. Go for Sowell's basic economics instead. >tfw I've read both >>119358147 >tfw I've read anatomy of the state I still feel as though I lack mastery. I actually need to re-read.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491228962 119318473,119359042,2017-04-03 14:17:01,">>119358102 I don't know too much about Jesus, but his disposition against the rich and his sympathy towards the poor seems to be evidence enough of the fact that he was communist. Christianity does promote egalitarianism in a way, which is central to communism. Correct me if I'm wrong though",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491229021 119318473,119359186,2017-04-03 14:18:05,">>119358909 What about Man, Economy, and State? I haven't gotten around to read the big boys yet but that's because I don't have time to do so [spoiler:lit]and also because reading Hoppe and 80s/90s Rothbard is edgier[/spoiler:lit].",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491229085 119318473,119359414,2017-04-03 14:19:37,">>119356471 I believe it is impossible to be libertarian, at least in a convinced position, without having a strong grasp on market solutions to economic issues. Ideologies are mostly formed through debate, a libertarian that didn't understand how government functions could be done by the market voluntarily, usually tends to drop libertarianism quickly, as he will find shortcomings in his own ability to defend his points of view. There are, of course, a lot of libertarians who just read others and find it logic, and avoid engaging in debate because they just have some sort of cognitive bias towards freedom/free market, but if libertarianism is so marginal is because of what I'm explaining.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491229177 119318473,119359478,2017-04-03 14:20:01,">>119358484 It's interesting. Because humans are created in the image and semblance of God, we are beings capable of immense goodness. But because we are the sons of Eve, who disobeyed God, we are also capable of great evil. This duality of humans seems to fit into in the Libertarian worldview, where humans are neither good or bad, they're merely responding to incentives. If it's easier to survive being good, people will be good. If it's easier to survive being bad, people will be bad. A state makes it easier to survive by being bad. Thus, if we want to emulate Jesus and follow God's commandments, it's seems logical that the total elimination of statist systems is a requirement for sanctification.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491229201 119318473,119359489,2017-04-03 14:20:06,">>119359186 >What about Man, Economy, and State? you think I could read this over the summer and finish it, if I start at the beginning of summer? I don't want to dedicate too much time to economics because I have other things to do, but I definitely want a deeper understanding of the discipline",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491229206 119318473,119360012,2017-04-03 14:23:47,What's your plan to actually implement your ideas in real life?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491229427 119318473,119360231,2017-04-03 14:25:16,">>119356471 Although it is great to read it if you can, I don't think it's really necessary to read Human Action, or at least you shouldn't rush into it. Although Mises is one of the most read economists by the common people, Human Action was intended for scholars, not the general public. It's a though pill to take.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491229516 119318473,119361116,2017-04-03 14:31:50,">>119359042 ""Rich"" in this context is someone who loves money more than they love themselves and other people. Just like the rest of Catholicism, it's your actions that will determine your salvation. Simply having more digits in your bank account doesn't mean instant damnation. As for the ""poor"", a good replacement word is ""needy"". You can be poor yet not needy (someone who's starting to get his shit together), and be needy yet not poor (too stupid to look after himself, or sinning without even knowing he's sinning). Those stupid Millennial pieces of shit are needy as fuck, yet they are not poor. Christianity's egalitarianism says that equality must be achieved through 100% voluntary means, such as charity and entrepreneurship (what is an entrepreneur if not someone who tries to answer the question ""what do people need right now?""). Christianity acknowledges that inequality is perfectly natural. The differences between men are a result of the unequal distribution of talents by God, so that men have to cooperate with other men in order to survive. If it's not 100% voluntary, it means you have sinned somewhere along the path, which invalidates your whole work. Communism on the other hand assumes these inequalities are unnatural, and must me remedied at all costs. The whole ""for someone to be rich, someone else needs to be poor"" bullshit. Well, the wealthier classes aren't gonna surrender on their own, so we need something more powerful than their economic power: physical power, a.k.a. the state. This state will, by force, fix inequalities among men. Once all inequalities are solved, the state will disappear automatically until new inequalities surface, and then the whole process begins again.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491229910 119318473,119361950,2017-04-03 14:37:48,">>119359186 I'm reading a book on ""Quasi-religion"" right now and I've just finished another one about Critical Theorists. Unfortunately the Austrian aren't a priority for me right now. But these thread should include copy-pasta definition of basic concepts of Austrian economic analysis. Time preference, for instance, is a huge one for Hoppe. Why not have a time preference vignette in the libertarian thread? Allocation of capital? Normal rate of profit? Interest rates? Subjective theory of value? Comparative advantages? The role of the entrepreneur as a coordinator of economic activity? >>119359478 My point was more that, in the story, humans were able to disobey God in the first place. They had the ability for choices and were already limited being. These characteristic, I argue, are sufficient to explain the fallen nature of Man within Christianity in so far as one properly understands the dependence of choice on a notion of finiteness. One must be finite in order to be able to chose, to exclude one possibility and select some other.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491230268 119318473,119361970,2017-04-03 14:37:55,">>119356471 I'd personally recommend The Law, by Bastiat. It's important to understand how laws exist before men put them into paper, and how legislation can be used to legalize crimes, such as theft and murder, for a select group of people. The effect of this is that the groups pillaged will seek to pass legislation that legalizes their crime too as a means to compensate all the pillaging they have suffered before, rather than simply abolish the system so nobody can ever legalize their crimes again. Once you allow legislation to legalize crime, it's a snowball effect that never ends well.",,Anonymous,The Law.jpg,Lba7A5c7x8kQO4c4khyI3Q==,BR,,1491230275 119318473,119363181,2017-04-03 14:46:44,">>119325677 No idea my dude.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491230804 119318473,119363252,2017-04-03 14:47:14,">>119325911 Slam his head against a wall.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491230834 119318473,119363353,2017-04-03 14:47:58,">>119326260 >city built on free trade with slave conditions wtf i love commies now",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491230878 119318473,119363668,2017-04-03 14:50:31,">>119363353 >ancap >complaining about working conditions",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491231031 119318473,119363671,2017-04-03 14:50:33,">>119361970 An interesting text no doubt. I've read some of it. But I believe that a more relevant and actual work treating the same subject is Buchanan's ""The Calculus of Consent"". >They compare this to a market transaction, where the voters strongly desiring better health care could purchase the acceptance of the opposition and uninterested voters with concessions, resulting in an efficient allocation of resources, increasing the happiness of all parties (Pareto optimality). However the equivalent of this in the political realm is that politicians buy the votes of other politicians (or groups of special interest) by promising to vote for their issues. In the authors' opinion such log-rolling is to be expected, but in the traditional political science theory, it is anomalous. Thus their model explains certain things that the previous models of politics could not. I'm not saying that Buchanan develops explicitly a theory of the way in which government and the law will be used by interested parties in order to transfer wealth to themselves, but I do believe that they offer the proper framework to understand how and why it will happen.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491231033 119318473,119364406,2017-04-03 14:55:57,">>119336062 Nice.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491231357 119318473,119364548,2017-04-03 14:57:00,">>119339825 AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Are you the goy with the Hoppe quotes?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491231420 119318473,119364615,2017-04-03 14:57:27,">>119325911 >Did you sign the contract ? Yes ? Oh, where's the copy or the recording in which you and the contractor mutually agree upon the terms of that contract ? >OH THERE IS NONE ? OKAY And then I'll take him and put him face-down into a toilet, because I'm sure he misses the good 'ol days from high school.",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1491231447 119318473,119364709,2017-04-03 14:58:08,">>119364548 yes Slovakiabro. Glad to see so many take the Hoppepill.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491231488 119318473,119364799,2017-04-03 14:58:47,">>119342922 Eh, I'll add to it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491231527 119318473,119365513,2017-04-03 15:03:55,">>119358909 I've read Anatomy at like 5AM. I couldn't even recognise a quote from it like 2 days after I'd read it, kek.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491231835 119318473,119365702,2017-04-03 15:05:19,">>119343109 The middle class ""benefits"" from welfare significantly less than the poor, and in the U.S. I'd argue that they hurt because of it, too.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491231919 119318473,119365820,2017-04-03 15:06:08,">>119343396 Good jam, leaf.",,Anonymous,pinochet pepe.jpg,ZLm4d/PhB9KpFcrNhhMSjw==,SK,,1491231968 119318473,119366129,2017-04-03 15:08:38,"I saw Bastitat was mentioned earlier in the thread but I really want to reccomend one of his short essay. The Candlemaker's proposition. It's just one page, somewhat funny and might give you just that edge you need to sink cronies in a debate. Really one of my favourites. https://fee.org/articles/the-candlemakers-petition/",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491232118 119318473,119366140,2017-04-03 15:08:44,">>119361950 Once we ate the fruit that allowed us to distinguish between good and evil, we could be held accountable for our actions. This is the basis of pretty much every law system. You can only punish those who had the freedom to choose. If you imagine an alien with mind-control powers that made someone do all sorts of crime, it would be immoral to hold him fully accountable for their crimes, because he was merely coerced into it, he was merely a tool for a crime, the ""true"" criminal is somebody else. Just like guns don't commit crime, we cannot criminalize those who didn't choose to commit crime. This story is analogue to a child growing up and discovering what is good and bad. If a child steals a toy you don't throw the little fucker in a jail, you just repossess the stolen toy and teach the child that's bad. She didn't know that theft is bad, so the child cannot be fully punished. This is why God is called Our Father in Heaven, because in a way is our father, our fatherly figure. A father will act differently towards his sons who commits evil, depending if the son is 5 year-old or 20 year-old. Once you know something is sinful, there's no excuse in the future if you choose to sin again.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491232124 119318473,119366343,2017-04-03 15:10:22,">>119366129 A classic. >>119363671 Added to my reading list.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491232222 119318473,119366991,2017-04-03 15:15:21,">>119366140 >Once we ate the fruit that allowed us to distinguish between good and evil, we could be held accountable for our actions. That would seem to imply that Eve can't be held liable for having eaten the fruit.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491232521 119318473,119367264,2017-04-03 15:17:27,">>119364709 I don't even remember how I became a paleolibertarian, I used to be a fucking cuck. Glad I managed to see the light. Maybe it was you who redpilled me, in that case thanks! Anyway, anyone feel like they want to add to the LRG banner?",,Anonymous,lrg banner.png,bqomt8PhYY0DhcRNpQA1ZA==,SK,,1491232647 119318473,119367564,2017-04-03 15:19:49,">>119366129 Nice. Thanks for the recommendation.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491232789 119318473,119367704,2017-04-03 15:20:58,">>119366991 She already had an order: do not eat the fruit. There was neither good or evil to be judged here, it was a simple value-free commandment from God. She disobeyed.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491232858 119318473,119368003,2017-04-03 15:23:15,">>119366129 Had a good laugh, thanks alot",,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL2Rpc2NvcmQuc3RvcmFnZS5nb29nbGVhcGlzLmNvbS9hdHRhY2htZW50cy8yNzc1ODI2NDEzMzM2NjU3OTIvMjk1NjQxMzkyNTEwOTI2ODc4L0M3d2UtWVVXMEFBVTk4Qy5qcGcifQ.EGE_tP5H3LJLp1uF7LD60XcLbwY.jpg,QPSS4y/bxuoAvaGpZGBbNQ==,DE,,1491232995 119318473,119368006,2017-04-03 15:23:17,">>119367264 I don't even remember what I was before, but I faintly remember it was a mix of corporatism + authoritarian surveillance state + technocracy.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491232997 119318473,119368149,2017-04-03 15:24:28,">>119361116 Thanks for the clarification m8",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491233068 119318473,119368979,2017-04-03 15:30:43,">>119368149 It's a common misunderstanding. This is why several sects of the Church have been corrupted by Marxism, it's easy to spin the words and get the followers of Christ to follow Satan instead. Another fun thing to stimulate those brain cells: in one of the temptations of Christ, Satan offers all the crowns of all the kingdoms on Earth to him shall he decide to serve him rather than God. If it's impossible to give something that you do not have, how could Satan have offered all the states if he didn't own them? He couldn't have been lying, otherwise Jesus would just go back to serve God as soon as he realized Satan was empty-handed. Being a statist literally means being a servant of Satan. Eliminating the statist views that most Christians currently hold can be considered a purifying action that will sanctify men.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491233443 119318473,119369759,2017-04-03 15:36:48,">This kills the ancap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6g1PevHvUs",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491233808 119318473,119370148,2017-04-03 15:39:58,"freedom bump ""Yet even if one did and one were perfectly willing to invest it for this return or an even lower one, such a fact would be irrelevant unless the person in question knew the laws of potato growing.""",,Anonymous,1490855289503.jpg,SVoN1hZx2iUEv8o6YCLh4A==,DE,,1491233998 119318473,119370406,2017-04-03 15:41:57,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Free Market Capitalism is the only way",,Anonymous,Pg-26-sinking-reu.jpg,wzKg9PQkdD29mmfFKNfRCg==,GB,,1491234117 119318473,119370493,2017-04-03 15:42:47,">>119369759 Quite literally.",,Anonymous,china-execution.png,I75BOsu1/SyO0L+VannYtw==,BR,,1491234167 119318473,119370494,2017-04-03 15:42:47,">>119318664 Whose the Asian dictator guy? I know Pinochet but not him",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491234167 119318473,119370826,2017-04-03 15:45:44,">>119370494 Lee Kuan Yew former Prime Minister of Singapore.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491234344 119318473,119371224,2017-04-03 15:49:19,">>119318473 >Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism haha dystopian corporation futures are the best kind of dystopia",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491234559 119318473,119372827,2017-04-03 16:02:52,">>119371224 >Communism/socialism hasn't led to multiple dystopia's in the past century and doesn't have the most death for any ideology >All forms of Libertarianism == no government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491235372 119318473,119372994,2017-04-03 16:04:17,,,Anonymous,1490842787037.jpg,AwI/uN58yHgROaYkNNVz/Q==,DE,,1491235457 119318473,119373871,2017-04-03 16:11:44,">>119372827 Aha, yes, we'll just skip about and ride horses! We don't need roads! Or Police!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491235904 119318473,119374918,2017-04-03 16:20:14,"Hello my kind, y'all holding up alright? What you've been doing to spread the word of our lord the markekt today? crypto? studies? removal?",,Anonymous,17342887_1844110952495982_4541452474324482293_n.jpg,7fYwXkZPKNE0qG93Y0knjw==,BR,,1491236414 119318473,119374980,2017-04-03 16:20:48,,,Anonymous,1484929869333.png,ZbTCh4uJNgFQlMIvQQnA4A==,US,,1491236448 119318473,119375204,2017-04-03 16:22:46,">>119338443 Another brasilfag We are growing stronger",,Anonymous,15034680_1233646383369693_8548581955384377344_n.jpg,gqE+kwFANMAyj4zGFfQZrQ==,BR,,1491236566 119318473,119375709,2017-04-03 16:27:01,">>119373871 gyrocopter master race",,Anonymous,eJwNyUEOhCAMAMC_8AAqBYr6G4IEjUoJ1HjY7N935zof9fRLrWoXaWMF2I6RuG96CPdYsi7M5cqxHUMnviGKxLTfucoADMHPSM5Ya4l8WBBw8eQQnXHTZAL9D556Vn6rbrWo7w8H6iLa.S-h22w5AnUEv_q3cLFzGzBp_bUM.png,cd7RxQlQmogMg2uk/jEyKw==,DE,,1491236821 119318473,119376186,2017-04-03 16:30:49,bump,,Anonymous,removal.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,DE,,1491237049 119318473,119377355,2017-04-03 16:40:40,">>119376186 >taxation is theft damn hotel charging me for taking advantage of their services",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491237640 119318473,119377861,2017-04-03 16:45:08,"Has anyone read that? It's one of the best quick intros to free market and division of labor concepts there is. It's just like less than twenty pages, really, and it does a great job. Should be in every ""Intro to libertarianism guide"" ever. An absolute redpill for the average social democrat voter zombie. The Foundation for Economic Education (fee.org) really is doing god's work.",,Anonymous,f03c2a507e21da84edf0545781189a4a8cbd2a79.jpg,tfeUz0sIIuWlze9Os4SAtQ==,ES,,1491237908 119318473,119378517,2017-04-03 16:50:37,">>119377861 Yeah. I really like it. Pretty sure there's a kid's book version as well ""Tuttle Twins"". I think they're called. >Captcha includes ""roads""",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491238237 119318473,119379243,2017-04-03 16:56:39,do we have a discord?,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491238599 119318473,119379285,2017-04-03 16:56:59,">>119374980 >Tfw no Asian Libertarian maid gf to throw communists out of helicopters",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491238619 119318473,119379784,2017-04-03 17:00:55,"I've been meaning to post here for a while but I've been super busy. Anyone else here an Economics undergrad? I can add lots to the thread on the economics side. >>119379243 Pls no, stay in the thread, that way it expands and more join >inb4 a free market joke",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491238855 119318473,119380074,2017-04-03 17:03:06,"how does everyone feel about voluntary slavery? is it even possible? how can you sell your self-ownership? you can't transfer the ability to directly control your body.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491238986 119318473,119380209,2017-04-03 17:04:09,">>119380074 I find this to be quite a conundrum. Surely you can contractually oblige yourself to be in service to someone but as you said you cannot transfer control of your body or your natural rights.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491239049 119318473,119380720,2017-04-03 17:07:55,">when you go from laughing at McNukes to redpilled within a week why does this ideology make so much sense? and has anyone else noticed a lot of people coming to the same conclusion lately?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491239275 119318473,119380728,2017-04-03 17:07:58,">>119380074 It doesn't matter whether you can fully sell the absolute control over your body as long as both parties agree that the contract is fulfilled",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491239278 119318473,119380809,2017-04-03 17:08:41,,,Anonymous,17553433_1165581243563724_1599281021459496853_n.jpg,x9tDrm9wmGX0IYQnMGq6Ww==,US,,1491239321 119318473,119380895,2017-04-03 17:09:23,">>119380074 Voluntary slavery is a contradiction in terms.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491239363 119318473,119380970,2017-04-03 17:10:00,">>119380720 It makes sense, because it is built upon natural and logic principles, contrary to basically anything else.",,Anonymous,1490713534644.jpg,XnweBGBJLV0zaU1eNKLVyw==,DE,,1491239400 119318473,119381436,2017-04-03 17:13:38,">>119380720 Well these new general threads the last few weeks have been a concerted effort to build the strength of the movement on /pol/, so that's why you may feel people coming to the same conclusions as you, but /pol/ or /new/ was quite libertarian/ an-cap before it became known as a spooky scary Nazi board. I do like how Hoppe has become such a big figure among the right-libertarian space online recently though, it's a good development",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491239618 119318473,119381743,2017-04-03 17:16:18,">>119380728 i'm not asking if it should be allowed or not, ofcourse, if both parties agree then they should be allowed to do whatever they want. i'm asking if it's even possible in the real world. let's say you sell the property rights of your own body to me. what do i get? you still have self-ownership, you will always be the only one in direct control of your own body. you can still lift up your arm, speak, whatever. you are still able to break the contract. i will only get indirect control over you. i can make you do stuff, i can beat you up, whatever the contract says, but that does not make me the owner of your body. you are the exclusive owner of your body. indirect control over someone is also a thing in regular employment. the employment indirectly controls the employee, this isn't slavery, yet it is limited to the same thing. ofcourse people can set up whatever contract they want, i don't care. but it doesn't make alot of sense.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491239778 119318473,119381892,2017-04-03 17:17:27,">>119380074 Nimton, nobody wants to entertain such retarded semantics. Pls stop.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491239847 119318473,119382006,2017-04-03 17:18:30,">>119370494 you should know more about him, he's one of the most important men of the past century, what he did should be remarkable in human history",,Anonymous,brb_40_days_in_the_desert.jpg,tqSmGWy0iH1/WTMQZ25KtQ==,ES,,1491239910 119318473,119382189,2017-04-03 17:19:49,">>119380895 how do you mean? the definition of slavery is not providing services against your will, it means that someone else is the owner of your body. it would make alot more sense if slavery meant providing services against your will. like what rape is to sex. voluntary rape doesn't exist.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491239989 119318473,119382414,2017-04-03 17:21:42,">>119381743 You could sell yourself into servitude yes, in fact it has happened in the past. In the ancient world sometimes wealthy people who lost their possessions for whatever reason might enter into a voluntary slavery contract in order to provide for their family. It usually wasn't lifelong though.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491240102 119318473,119382445,2017-04-03 17:21:58,">>119382189 Why don't you voluntarily sell off those extra chromosomes?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491240118 119318473,119382676,2017-04-03 17:23:43,">>119382445 go back to your echo chamber",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491240223 119318473,119382855,2017-04-03 17:25:03,">>119382676 Nimton bby pls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491240303 119318473,119383020,2017-04-03 17:26:24,Just a reminder you kike worshipers will be never have this board.,,Anonymous,1491253343854.jpg,wM86hqsjxOjMa3KprUfRiA==,CA,,1491240384 119318473,119383126,2017-04-03 17:27:19,">>119382189 That would rather be a semantic game. Depending on how you define slavery it can be voluntary or not. Slavery, defined as the illegitimate (non-consensual) appropriation of someone else's labor, is impossible because if you signed a (voluntary) contract selling your labor then it would be legitimate. >>119383020 Adolf Hitler is my least favourite jew.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491240439 119318473,119383183,2017-04-03 17:27:47,">>119383020 Another reminder the only retorts you give to National Socialism are the same as commies and kikes.",,Anonymous,polvsreddit.png,DkDafLUceMZ5RzOPQ6fpeQ==,CA,,1491240467 119318473,119383235,2017-04-03 17:28:09,">>119382676 The fuck are you crypto-commie talkin' about ? Go back to /leftypol/ with your divide and conquer tactics",,Anonymous,removal34.png,TOcOz9IxGlYKTFvrm2FjjA==,DE,,1491240489 119318473,119383405,2017-04-03 17:29:39,Another reminder there are 10 of you here.,,Anonymous,5a1659a7a9fbcc3c44bd07fb8d069966cab0ed8864ae6d14829928a889b62d4b.jpg,RlTTTFsoqfRi/aPJGsxxcQ==,CA,,1491240579 119318473,119383478,2017-04-03 17:30:13,">>119332606 >http://memeticprincipalityofkek.club/index.php?topic=1.0 land is not a fungible good, so it can't really be linked to a cryptocurrency you can write it down in a (stupid) sentence, but you can't actually make that happen there wouldn't be any way to value a part in comparision with the rest as the kek coin would be linked to the area, and not the subjective value of the resources basic economics m8s",,Anonymous,last_laught_best_laught.jpg,JeSt6a7GZI+FNtPaJcCgIA==,ES,,1491240613 119318473,119383601,2017-04-03 17:31:13,Ancaps will always be subjects to the jew.,,Anonymous,1d230097182420ab08ef409baaf4b036e5fca920f6edb73caee33904d6100dc0.jpg,ngdFqBrsS6xyDdKRs6GTwg==,CA,,1491240673 119318473,119383731,2017-04-03 17:32:17,">>119383126 >Slavery, defined as the illegitimate (non-consensual) appropriation of someone else's labor where did you get this from? >>119383235 you don't understand the context, i got kicked from their discord for not being ancap enough",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491240737 119318473,119383735,2017-04-03 17:32:18,">>119383020 We already have a pretty sizeable portion of the regular visitors here either aligned with us or sympathetic to some of our ideas. We don't have to be enemies either my nazi friend, you can absolutely have your white/ aryan utopia if you want.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491240738 119318473,119383999,2017-04-03 17:34:34,">>119383735 >We don't have to be enemies either my nazi friend, you can absolutely have your white/ aryan utopia if you want. A little late for friendship. I see you lot always trying to counter signal National Socialism.",,Anonymous,kike stickman.jpg,U2UnHYr7kKmvlmKoVNaYaQ==,CA,,1491240874 119318473,119384111,2017-04-03 17:35:29,">>119383731 idk, this is the most natural definition I could think of. ""Owning your body"" feels like unnatural, since you are always occupying your body, it is not something that can be taken from ""you"", because ""you"" are your body. The fruits of your labor, on the other hand can be taken from you because they are external to your body.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491240929 119318473,119384226,2017-04-03 17:36:33,">>119383601 The jew game is statism, anarchocapitalism and it's logical foundations are over sophisms and relativisms that give ground to the rest ideologies ie. the best jew is a natsoc",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491240993 119318473,119384341,2017-04-03 17:37:34,">>119384111 >idk, this is the most natural definition I could think of. yes i know, that's what i was thinking aswell, it makes the most sense. but look up the definition in any dictionary or wikipedia, that's not what it means. other than that we're on the same page.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491241054 119318473,119384615,2017-04-03 17:39:44,">>119384226 >ie. the best jew is a natsoc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0LQgXclado",,Anonymous,ns.jpg,Fjc+1rmjMKyYacdb/2ARjQ==,CA,,1491241184 119318473,119384787,2017-04-03 17:41:06,,,Anonymous,56c765577624074383a4a726de4ac657c1086bc6b406818f1560021ce9179887.jpg,iAMJUTG61T2PyLdkxpNzvA==,CA,,1491241266 119318473,119384834,2017-04-03 17:41:29,">>119383405 And yet we're causing enough ruckus to fuck you national (((socialists))) up. fucking communism with an ethnic touch faggots",,Anonymous,1490805837759.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,DE,,1491241289 119318473,119384916,2017-04-03 17:42:00,">>119383478 >land is not a fungible good Yea they're definitely gonna have some issues if someone actually wants to convert the coins to land. The way Moldbug envisioned neocameralism was for a company to buy the land then extract as much value as it could. So instead of a king you'd have shareholders. Think they should've just sold shares of the government rather than try to tie it to land.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491241320 119318473,119385024,2017-04-03 17:42:50,">>119383999 national SOCIALISM is cancer moraly disgusting economically terrible intelectualy retarded foundationaly jewish ancaps, natsocs are no friends on this journey, they want absolute control do you know the frog and the scorpion tale? it's in their nature, they will fuck things for both, because the power they seek is for everyone, not just themselves don't delude yourselves, natsocs are inside the closet jews",,Anonymous,1490843757390.jpg,gfYDVGzWkaILXGUXDQcyJA==,ES,,1491241370 119318473,119385104,2017-04-03 17:43:33,">>119383999 Some kikebook post is hardly representative of the an-cap/ libertarians of /pol/ We have the same enemies, marxist agitators, overreaching governments, etc Mass immigration and government sponsored ""multiculturalism"" are all problems that would be solved by privatisation. Our only disagreement really is on the long term solutions, short term we are aligned",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491241413 119318473,119385206,2017-04-03 17:44:13,"Left authoritarian: people are cucked by state Right authoritarian: people are cucked by both state and jews Right libertarian: people are cucked by jews Left libertarian: state and jews cuck each other, people may be unaffected.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491241453 119318473,119385350,2017-04-03 17:45:19,">>119384834 >And yet we're causing enough ruckus to fuck you national (((socialists))) up. >>119385024 Do you know how I can tell you wear velcro shoes and lick windows?",,Anonymous,thirdreich.png,VphFSJrX+iBodlRifT9yww==,CA,,1491241519 119318473,119385535,2017-04-03 17:46:44,">>119385104 >Our only disagreement really is on the long term solutions, short term we are aligned Tell that to the other posters in this thread...",,Anonymous,ww2 german tech.jpg,kuXbAyrFZq+Y5C2AxauZlw==,CA,,1491241604 119318473,119385831,2017-04-03 17:49:09,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zimFdbGo2uc,,Anonymous,hey white people.png,hAG9BGBzPu8EGzhlcNvevg==,CA,,1491241749 119318473,119385891,2017-04-03 17:49:36,"I love these generals. You can find genuine intelligent thoughts and economic literacy, instead of stormfag larping ""NATSOC GENERAL 14/88 HAPA WAIFUS ARE REDPILLED GUYS"" Authoritarian rightism is a response to the moral degeneracy of left libertarianism, therefore making the whole libertarian-esque movement appear to support degeneracy.",,Anonymous,b0jga63vnt1y.jpg,u6CljOpQsTIo1aMGK8Reug==,US,,1491241776 119318473,119386292,2017-04-03 17:52:49,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAY9OlphRok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZ7W4X9JCM>>119385891 >""NATSOC GENERAL 14/88 HAPA WAIFUS ARE REDPILLED GUYS"" Wew, what a complete fallacy.",,Anonymous,7ef867f27ecf5792b20516fb945e2039b82e31566df65a67036db2d9be4fec10.jpg,TVE2AveGZI733/zX/lYGiA==,CA,,1491241969 119318473,119386362,2017-04-03 17:53:15,>>119385350,,Anonymous,1484520120684.jpg,a7J+zzGxOke7onga0nE0hQ==,ES,,1491241995 119318473,119386547,2017-04-03 17:54:38,">>119386292 Even your quotes are unimaginative and poorly designed as fuck.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491242078 119318473,119386629,2017-04-03 17:55:16,">>119386362 Well the image I posted disputed every single point you made so yeah it is an argument you dumb half breed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MEvGbTrwvo >>119386547 hurrr durr a little a harder.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491242116 119318473,119386861,2017-04-03 17:57:00,">>119319402 >consensual exchange of services this violates the NAP how?",,Anonymous,blackkidsreact.gif,JKMkxp3VmkY3rVWQOYmpQA==,US,,1491242220 119318473,119386901,2017-04-03 17:57:17,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIarB-5iiRg,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491242237 119318473,119387021,2017-04-03 17:58:20,Why does always at least a third of the posts in every /LRG/ go to waste arguing with statists that are not here to create meaningful discourse at all?,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491242300 119318473,119387049,2017-04-03 17:58:37,"Reminder ""With open gates"" had 7 million views. Let me know when you ancaps make propaganda that makes even the slightest splash in the real world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0hD7IffTJs",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491242317 119318473,119387053,2017-04-03 17:58:38,">>119386861 How can a horse consent? Not that it matters because it's not a person, and only an NAP purist would say you need to be vegetarian, but still...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491242318 119318473,119387245,2017-04-03 18:00:04,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJGViepwaKo,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491242404 119318473,119387327,2017-04-03 18:00:41,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92f2S3E0S8,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491242441 119318473,119387344,2017-04-03 18:00:48,">>119387049 What about that time the Rothbard quoting happening man nearly became US president?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491242448 119318473,119387352,2017-04-03 18:00:51,">>119387053 I've heard many argue that animals have no moral agency. No one would jail a lion for eating a gazelle. It might be put down for safety reasons but it would never be punished for moral actions only for discipine or practical reasons. And in a private property based society morals and social norms would be so strong that fucking horses would probably cause your neighbours to make you a social outcast and deny you any services.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491242451 119318473,119387410,2017-04-03 18:01:28,"guys, how many of you here are INTPs? sigh",,Anonymous,1484750088749.jpg,TvAbwaGWpjTd8WixnIDavA==,ES,,1491242488 119318473,119387441,2017-04-03 18:01:44,">>119387344 >That had anything to do with you lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9o7DlhQpnU",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491242504 119318473,119387602,2017-04-03 18:03:15,">>119386629 I didn't made a point about how jews financed nazis, I'm making a point that natsoc spirit is the one of the jew sophism, trickery, relativism, parasitism and superiority complexes",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491242595 119318473,119387619,2017-04-03 18:03:22,">>119387410 INTJ when I'm in work-mode. INTP when I'm in slob mode.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491242602 119318473,119387763,2017-04-03 18:04:38,">>119387441 No more than your little video had to do with online Nazis point is that our ideas are more commonplace than yours, because they're more effective and have a better track record",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491242678 119318473,119387778,2017-04-03 18:04:44,">>119387602 T. I have no knowledge of National Socialism. What disgusting group of lies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDKQkig11OM",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491242684 119318473,119388083,2017-04-03 18:07:29,">>119387763 >No more than your little video had to do with online Nazis Well the video was made by Gex who was from 8ch so what point is it you're trying make??? >point is that our ideas are more commonplace than yours, because they're more effective and have a better track record What track record is this? I didn't know you ancaps even had one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeIcQSnepig",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491242849 119318473,119388932,2017-04-03 18:15:03,">>119387619 there's no way to be 2 things >>119387778 a deluded man is unable to realice his very own misconceptions, errors, fallacies and lies as long as he stays in the same belief system calling something a lie doesn't make it so playing that game of proving things something by just mere words reinforces my statement that your deep spirit and core ephistemological values are those of a jew",,Anonymous,1489711049595.png,ylGct6eT6Bi0TlMi/FPjNg==,ES,,1491243303 119318473,119389014,2017-04-03 18:15:41,">>119388083 Well, I guess I was just wrong about the video 2bh, not much I can say there you half got me. Still, libertarianism (of which we are a branch) has a strong track record and more acceptance among the general public this is undeniable. There are countless examples of countries privatising industry, reducing oversight and that leading to prosperity. Singapore, Chile, India, Taiwan, here after Thatcher, etc Anarcho-capitalism is just extreme libertarianism, privatise those last few things and drop government.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491243341 119318473,119389147,2017-04-03 18:16:46,">>119387410 Evil INTJ hand rubber.",,Anonymous,tfw INTJ.png,nZ9Kwxn/sssQg/vsTh8Lnw==,ES,,1491243406 119318473,119389322,2017-04-03 18:18:13,">>119388932 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz6vxFDwOrc I think there needs to be a live debate so I can watch you cunts get decimated like the thoughtless mongoloids you are. We already destroyed the cockroaches on /leftypol/ maybe you lot are next? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiiOz6V-9N8",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491243493 119318473,119389587,2017-04-03 18:20:35,">>119389014 >Still, libertarianism (of which we are a branch) has a strong track record and more acceptance among the general public this is undeniable. There are countless examples of countries privatising industry, reducing oversight and that leading to prosperity. >Singapore, Chile, India, Taiwan, here after Thatcher, etc Well I don't see your ideology demonized in the way National Socialism has which has something to do with it. When I bring forth the ideas of National Socialism without the name it's very digestible for the normal fag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491243635 119318473,119389957,2017-04-03 18:23:23,">>119388932 From what I understand the difference between INTPs and INTJs is that the former are less worried about micromanaging their day and sticking to tight and rigorous schedules, while the latter are more concerned with order and rigidity.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491243803 119318473,119390159,2017-04-03 18:24:58,">>119389587 They literally just group us together as ""evil right wingers"" if you think free market capitalism isn't demonised constantly you're deluded. I think it depends where you live too, because I live in a city and I doubt most people would accept nat-soc ideas even if you were able to share them without all the baggage and propaganda.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491243898 119318473,119390511,2017-04-03 18:27:47,"Guys, we have to stop cultural nazism. Those evil nazis are beginning to get some space in the media. Not much time before they get to academia and begin lobbying for pro-nazi censorship. What do we do?",,Anonymous,ancap - abortion clinics.jpg,0k9e0rneYUZQRy6enJC4Fg==,ES,,1491244067 119318473,119390620,2017-04-03 18:28:35,">>119383999 I can't believe I gave that filthy race-mixer $100.",,Anonymous,1453504164707.gif,ae9B/G7ZaLOkGQLDlj0sMQ==,US,,1491244115 119318473,119390832,2017-04-03 18:30:43,">>119383020 pol is ancap and has been for a while.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491244243 119318473,119391047,2017-04-03 18:32:30,I was inspired by the earlier dump of /pol/ emblems and thought I'd give it a try. I'm pretty new to Illustrator so I realize that I might have accidentally made it crooked to shit. But do you have any thoughts on this one apart from me being an adobe newbie? Tried to make one with a Swedish flair.,,Anonymous,tre kronor.png,tUi6dza2VFrQ0e43OqH/Wg==,SE,,1491244350 119318473,119391137,2017-04-03 18:33:18,">>119390620 He is correct. The only logical thing for a white nationalist to do is emigrate. The USA is lost- but Europe isn't. Yet.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491244398 119318473,119391203,2017-04-03 18:33:50,">>119321163 Comfy piggu Does anyone knows what are some common ancaps positions on intellectual property and patents? It seems that it falls under private property but I haven't read anything about it yet and it seems weird to me to possess an idea on the long term",,Anonymous,image.jpg,SQxJA5HYdGOy/77DX9st+Q==,FR,,1491244430 119318473,119391320,2017-04-03 18:34:58,I have no clue when the /pol/ natsoc/libertarian divide and conquer thing happened. I can remember back to 2013 both sides agreeing that a homogeneous white nation is a prerequisite for their particular ideology and putting aside their differences to work towards that goal.,,Anonymous,1486085386556.png,g/yNYfh1jm4aI7ckxUtMsQ==,US,,1491244498 119318473,119391333,2017-04-03 18:35:03,">>119391203 From what I've gathered most are completely against IP. I mean doesn't me stopping you from giving your friend certain program code or drawing a certain blueprint violate the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491244503 119318473,119391363,2017-04-03 18:35:15,">>119387344 >nearly He was DEAD LAST in his own party's nominating contest, dude. He won one (1) popular vote contest... and it wasn't even a fucking state. He ended his campaign three (3) months after Romney had already locked up the necessary number of delegates, a number ten (10) times the number of delegates Paul had accrued. Paulistinians are an absolutely baffling species. No understanding of the basic tenets of reality, of inarguable fact, like what money is, or how hard Paul lost in 2012, so you just make shit up.",,Anonymous,1446845760428.gif,ifnk8wPy8i2birlorbmH9Q==,US,,1491244515 119318473,119391651,2017-04-03 18:37:42,">>119391203 The only form of IP that could possibly exist are bilateral agreements (private contracts) to be enforced by an agreed upon agency. Non disclosure agreements would be a current example of that: You get told X secret information and if you reveal it you will have to pay Y penalty. Replied to this question several times, I have to look for a link that explains it better some day. Probably mises.org or the FEE.org already has a bunch of info in this topic but I ain't looking for this now.",,Anonymous,Spain 2025.png,dme0JYbDUWOnKUIXUEtlnQ==,ES,,1491244662 119318473,119391736,2017-04-03 18:38:23,">>119318473 I just want my fucking robowaifu. That is my ideology",,Anonymous,IMG_0259.png,kp9F1NfEFfTzsZwz/bMZvg==,CA,,1491244703 119318473,119391794,2017-04-03 18:38:59,">>119391320 http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/318894-fascism-is-the-stage-reached-after-communism-has-proved-an",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491244739 119318473,119391926,2017-04-03 18:40:06,">>119391047 The crowns don't look centered but it looks cool, it might have looked nice to keep the yellow/black diagonal inside the circle but invert the colors or something, if it doesn't ruin the crowns",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491244806 119318473,119391938,2017-04-03 18:40:14,">>119391651 Something along these lines maybe? https://mises.org/library/libertarian-critique-intellectual-property",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491244814 119318473,119392031,2017-04-03 18:40:57,,,Anonymous,1490740270087.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,BR,,1491244857 119318473,119392065,2017-04-03 18:41:15,">>119391926 Thanks. I'll defiently redo it and try to align everything properly. Alot of the text flow was sorta juryrigged with twice the amount of paths I really needed.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491244875 119318473,119392088,2017-04-03 18:41:27,,,Anonymous,1488132977622.png,zPhkGzKPDLEA6j1ymW/VzA==,BR,,1491244887 119318473,119392128,2017-04-03 18:41:47,,,Anonymous,eJwFwdsNhCAQAMBeKIB9iItrNwQJmqgQ2Pu6XO8383WfcbvdnWZ97gDHNXMbh5_WRqrF19bqXVK_ps_tgWSW8vmU1yawSEBljLyIkrIKsKIEWVE3ooAYMQKFTWhhJFkp-P5W9_sDvUQiZg.XEr2h2SvPEKreG31TaukLvp1ICk.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,BR,,1491244907 119318473,119392175,2017-04-03 18:42:12,">>119391047 Sorry but I had to do it.",,Anonymous,1491258750988.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,ES,,1491244932 119318473,119392192,2017-04-03 18:42:24,,,Anonymous,1490740270129.jpg,FFhlOu4bw09DpOIhvCb0/g==,BR,,1491244944 119318473,119392317,2017-04-03 18:43:25,>>119391794,,Anonymous,von Mises fascism.jpg,9QvQLBMFSKthD8aRYgjvvw==,US,,1491245005 119318473,119392512,2017-04-03 18:45:06,,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170401-010320.jpg,KTfGQFIaChINwziAGDXboA==,IE,,1491245106 119318473,119392518,2017-04-03 18:45:14,">>119387410 INTP here",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491245114 119318473,119392618,2017-04-03 18:46:07,">>119391333 >>119391651 >>119391938 Thx it makes sense I'll read the link. I was wondering because patents as they are kinda get in the way of competition and their lenght is totally arbitrary",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491245167 119318473,119392741,2017-04-03 18:47:10,">>119391794 You're picking fights with the only people willing to give you a fair listen.",,Anonymous,hayek dictatorship.png,vScox6yC7GXqPUoujzUY9Q==,US,,1491245230 119318473,119392777,2017-04-03 18:47:28,">>119387410 Me",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491245248 119318473,119393059,2017-04-03 18:49:57,">>119392618 Patents are a fucking atrocity against scientific research. And people believes they actually incentivize it when it is totally the opposite. Two independent scientific research groups in the same country spend millions to get to some patent and one achieves it two days before the other and patents it. The other group's expenditure of millions now becomes totally useless as they are banned from using the acquired knowledge and the other corp gets a monopoly on that for a bunch of years. Patenting is as anti-competition and anti capitalistic as it could possibly get.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491245397 119318473,119393601,2017-04-03 18:54:54,">>119391794 There's a mixed bunch here, but I'm against the d&c. I wish some knew we could work together.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491245694 119318473,119393730,2017-04-03 18:56:05,"Can someone help a (((black))) snek out and explain the race situation? Its nice to see some more libertarian stuff on /pol/ for once but as usual with stuff on /pol/ it always tends to head towards race as I find it an old and pointless concept.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491245765 119318473,119393983,2017-04-03 18:58:12,How do we prevent unemployment from a lack of jobs in an AnCap society,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491245892 119318473,119394092,2017-04-03 18:59:08,">PHYSICAL REMOVAL >peace",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491245948 119318473,119394143,2017-04-03 18:59:39,">>119393059 Yes, some ideas are still important to protect as you spend a lot of time and ressources to get them but it's totally the responsability of the guy who work on it to protect what needs to be protected it makes much more sense",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491245979 119318473,119394497,2017-04-03 19:02:35,Nice pic op I might get it made into a flag or sticker or something.,,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1491246155 119318473,119394547,2017-04-03 19:03:00,">>119393730 >blacks have higher time preference and higher aggression than whites >therefore, they can't sustain a society which requires delay of gratification and mutual-agreed non-violence",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491246180 119318473,119394752,2017-04-03 19:04:44,">>119394143 >but it's totally the responsability of the guy who work on it to protect what needs to be protected >division of labor is for suckers >tribal, anarcho-communalism is the way forward",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491246284 119318473,119394764,2017-04-03 19:04:49,">>119387410 INTP here",,Anonymous,Ebola Killer.png,Op0UOJpy+tyNhI+hMo9BoA==,US,,1491246289 119318473,119394916,2017-04-03 19:06:14,">>119393730 I don't care about it personally I'd associate with the cheapest qualified persons who don't violate the NAP",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491246374 119318473,119395005,2017-04-03 19:07:01,">>119394092 Physical removal is a colorful term that it actually means ostracism or social exclusion. Nothing of the meme shit about throwing people from helicopters. >be nigger >try to shoplift >be physically removed from the shop by the guard That's it. In a private law society all property is privately owned by some individual or group of individuals, and this includes streets. So in such society the shoplifter might not only be kicked from the store, but also banned from even stepping in that street, neighborhood and for even worse crimes, like mugging or armed robbery he might be kicked out of an entire city if all private streets/neighborhoods agree on, which it is likely they would do since nobody likes to live near violent criminals. >>119394752 He probably meant that scientists would ""protect"" the results from their research by not disclosing information about it. Nothing wrong about that. You can't sell an information everybody can easily access to. See: internet piracy.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491246421 119318473,119395033,2017-04-03 19:07:16,">>119394752 Wat",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491246436 119318473,119395198,2017-04-03 19:08:40,">>119394547 >Thinking the poor negro is the same as blacks But how can you argue whites are less aggressive if they literally took over an entire continent by force? >>119394916 Yeah this is how I see it too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491246520 119318473,119395757,2017-04-03 19:13:15,">>119395005 >He probably meant that scientists would ""protect"" the results from their research by not disclosing information about it. Nothing wrong about that. Yes this I was refering to the message about non disclosure agreements posted earlier, if the company don't think about it or has a bad policy then it's their loss",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491246795 119318473,119395810,2017-04-03 19:13:37,"What fonts are used in these? Wanna make one with Rothbard on the Culture War. >>119329262 >>119329598 >>119336062 >>119329112",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491246817 119318473,119395881,2017-04-03 19:14:09,">>119395005 >Nothing of the meme shit about throwing people from helicopters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,1485503086261.jpg,A8I+CASBxehq2Tlf1JYAGQ==,ES,,1491246849 119318473,119395895,2017-04-03 19:14:16,">>119395198 >But how can you argue whites are less aggressive if they literally took over an entire continent by force? Because they disproportionately commit violent crime compared to whites? Because they have genetic predispositions (MOAI) to violence? Because all of their societies, even the ones that whites assembled for them such as Haiti and Liberia, devolved into some form tribal warlordism as is common in Africa? Is this a thread for asinine, appeals to emotion and moral equivalencies, or a thread for statistics and facts?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491246856 119318473,119396948,2017-04-03 19:22:46,">>119395198 white state's actions are not a representation of the average white people on their individual behaviour whites are less aggressive by hard data collected so far, in comparision with other ethnicities, japs for example are even more civiliced than whites",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491247366 119318473,119398083,2017-04-03 19:31:39,">>119395895 >Is this a thread of Statistics and Facts I fucking hope so but I don't think race is a sole reason to discredit one worth. You need to look at other factors such as their economy, their education, and such. There is too many factors to relay on one. >>119396948 >Hard data collected so far >so far Come on man, there has been some very aggressive and brutish stuff that has happen through the years before collection of such data. Now I am not disagreeing with it nor think its fake. I have seen the behavior of blacks personally and can infer the data is correct. I just find if you remove the race part and look at it from an economical point. It seems that poors are violent in general. Rednecks and Niggers are the same type of shitty people to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491247899 119318473,119398380,2017-04-03 19:34:20,">>119398083 Just because blacks are poor and ugly, as well as being criminals, doesn't mean we want to hang around with them",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491248060 119318473,119398921,2017-04-03 19:38:37,">>119398380 Just because brits are poor, ugly, and peasants. as well as being cucks, doesn't mean we want to hang around with them. Also I understand some people feel insecure or scared around people are different.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491248317 119318473,119399083,2017-04-03 19:40:03,">>119398921 But you're incorrect about all those things. Britain is one of the richest countries.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491248403 119318473,119399156,2017-04-03 19:40:41,">>119398083 >You need to look at other factors such as their economy, their education, and such. There is too many factors to relay on one. Where do you think all those qualities arise from? We're slaves to our biology, and the sort of egalitarian, mutually non-violent society you envision is not something that can even be explained, much less perpetuated, by a people with an average IQ of 85. Even then, whats the point of bringing them in? Diversity? By doing so, you are only destroying the social commons and solidarity a homogeneous population creates (read, E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the Twenty-first Century) and therefore, the trust necessary for ancap society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491248441 119318473,119400967,2017-04-03 19:56:00,"Still >>11939892, just grilling outside now. >>119399083 Oh I'm sorry. I was taking about individuals. At least for country is trying to uncuck themselves. >>119399156 This may be the case for the average amongst blacks but you still don't take into consideration of the fact that blacks live in a disadvantage from their environment. Also the whole slaves to biology doesn't even sound like a sound argument when people are going against it. Now I do understand how it can negatively affect a society that is ahead of theirs but I think it could be solved if you were to pick people of another race or culture by their performance. If you need to remove people, remove your lowest person or most burdening person and replace them with someone better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491249360 119318473,119401961,2017-04-03 20:04:37,">>119400967 >blacks live in a disadvantage from their environment If you understood evolution, that same pressure being affected upon them by their environment would explain why they are the way they are. Plentiful food plus lack of a cold season means no evolutionary cause for the development of a sense of time and ability to delay gratification. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_time >so the whole slaves to biology doesn't even sound like a sound argument when people are going against it. Do you understand averages? >Now I do understand how it can negatively affect a society that is ahead of theirs Do you think society springs up from the Earth? That it just acquaints itself with different populations arbitrarily? People create the society they live in, if you import people who create stone age, tribal societies, they're not going to stop doing what they've always done, especially with regression to the means rearing its head in genetics. > but I think it could be solved if you were to pick people of another race or culture by their performance. Except there's no point. Importing foreign ethnicities only makes sense from a moral imperative. If you need more fast/strong/smart individuals, then incentivize those people to reproduce, you get the same effect but without the damage to societal cohesion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491249877 119318473,119402042,2017-04-03 20:05:17,">>119399083 Kisses from across the channel my nemesis",,Anonymous,image.jpg,VsXEtdxfuP0z51yx9Yy2vw==,FR,,1491249917 119318473,119402092,2017-04-03 20:05:45,">>119383020 Yeah? Keep us out. You take our share of it, you're going to regret it, failure.",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1491249945 119318473,119402231,2017-04-03 20:06:47,">>119382676 You'd know a thing or two about chambers, huh?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250007 119318473,119402311,2017-04-03 20:07:20,">>119357528 >>119336062 I fixed this up,without typo and commukike brackets",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,gE8J9/IZBrZF+KKFZ8/fDw==,US,,1491250040 119318473,119402440,2017-04-03 20:08:31,">>119383999 That's because you faggots want the state to rule you while calling others cucks. I get it, you can't handle freedom. Leave it to those who can.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250111 119318473,119402615,2017-04-03 20:10:11,">>119384787 >doesn't even read the pastebin What if I told you a homogenous society AND freedom are compatible?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250211 119318473,119402827,2017-04-03 20:12:06,">>119385831 >libertarianism is multiculturalism Hoppe is literally a nationalist, arguing that if people want to separate, it is their right. NatSoc confirmed for illiteracy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250326 119318473,119403040,2017-04-03 20:13:56,">>119386861 >with a horse >consent Mate. Kids can't consent, what makes you think a horse can? And even if it didn't, nobody would want to live around you, your insurer would cut you off because nobody wants to be associated with you and nobody would even look at you twice. In a world of interdependency, you'd be fucked.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250436 119318473,119403082,2017-04-03 20:14:19,">>119387021 Because if you leave them alone, they win.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250459 119318473,119403440,2017-04-03 20:17:56,">>119389587 Oh people hate us all right. They hate you more, but they sort of take that for granted. We don't hate you because muh Joos and muh 6 gorillion. We hate you because you're statists and try to pretend that you're not. I hate you because you broke up Czechoslovakia and left us to the commies. I'll never forget that, and if there's an opportunity, Germany will pay us back. We still haven't had our revenge.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250676 119318473,119403441,2017-04-03 20:17:56,">>119401961 So what I am understanding is that you understand there is a disadvantage but you rather focus on your current people and bring them up to a higher standard in your idea of a society but you rather not want people who are willing to assimilate into your society just because they may be more violent? I have to accept that is allowable and okay but it's pretty damn dumb to turn down someone with better performance due to fears. Take risk, use Helicopters tactically.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491250676 119318473,119403625,2017-04-03 20:19:32,">>119403082 This, also arguing is the best technique to strenghten one's opinions",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491250772 119318473,119403704,2017-04-03 20:20:15,">>119402311 What font did you use?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491250815 119318473,119403722,2017-04-03 20:20:22,">>119390511 KEK If censorship happens, it is our duty to fight against it - with FORCE.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250822 119318473,119403769,2017-04-03 20:20:46,">>119392192 dude no",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250846 119318473,119403825,2017-04-03 20:21:12,">>119392317 Nobody can say we're not objective.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491250872 119318473,119404036,2017-04-03 20:23:00,">>119403441 >So what I am understanding is that you understand there is a disadvantage but you rather focus on your current people and bring them up to a higher standard in your idea of a society that is the idea of ethno-centrism, yes >but you rather not want people who are willing to assimilate into your society just because they may be more violent? >may be I'm having a hard time figuring out what part of ""statistically more inclined to violent crime"" and ""genetically predisposed to aggression"" you aren't understanding. >it's pretty damn dumb to turn down someone with better performance due to fears. No, its dumb to introduce to a foreign element into a functioning system, despite long-term consequences, because there is a possible short-term gain to be made.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491250980 119318473,119404143,2017-04-03 20:23:57,">>119403704 http://www.dafont.com/lemon-milk.font",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491251037 119318473,119404280,2017-04-03 20:25:01,">>119403825 Except for the part where your entire ideology revolves around a baseless moral imperative, just like communism. >maximum liberty is the greatest good >maximum equality is the greatest good Economically, you're on point. But ideologically and philosophically its pretty uninspired.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491251101 119318473,119404403,2017-04-03 20:26:07,>>119403440,,Anonymous,McGas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1491251167 119318473,119404493,2017-04-03 20:27:00,">>119404143 Thanks Brother.",,Anonymous,1491137998271-pol.jpg,tvKv0no9/a6+XBeHyHKi9Q==,US,,1491251220 119405293,119405293,2017-04-03 20:34:25,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - KILL A COMMIE FOR MOMMY EDITION,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1491251665 119405293,119405338,2017-04-03 20:34:53,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491251693 119405293,119405397,2017-04-03 20:35:25,,,Anonymous,HOPPE.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1491251725 119405293,119405462,2017-04-03 20:36:00,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,gE8J9/IZBrZF+KKFZ8/fDw==,US,,1491251760 119405293,119406051,2017-04-03 20:41:32,,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1491252092 119405293,119406177,2017-04-03 20:42:32,">>119405293 >ywn casually plink antifa members as they try to climb up your right-wing militia mountain fortress",,Anonymous,camouflage.jpg,0ho33Xr5yq4kui90jgpzNQ==,US,,1491252152 119405293,119406605,2017-04-03 20:46:11,">>119406177 >We're gonna bash you fascists!",,Anonymous,antifa.jpg,o7krmjGQtTmURZsSSWgpdg==,US,,1491252371 119405293,119407185,2017-04-03 20:51:28,,,Anonymous,snek (13).jpg,WeiEDcQayx0q3aRb3nKD+g==,US,,1491252688 119405293,119407863,2017-04-03 20:57:47,Bump.,,Anonymous,1491258750988.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,US,,1491253067 119405293,119408098,2017-04-03 21:00:00,">private market >public infrastructure best of both worlds",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491253200 119405293,119409008,2017-04-03 21:07:59,">>119408098 >being a roadcuck in 2017",,Anonymous,No_Roads.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1491253679 119444370,119444370,2017-04-04 03:22:42,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for the discussion of libertarianism, capitalism, anarcho-capitalism and PRIVATE DEATH SQUADS. >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Economics in One Lesson - Henry Hazlitt https://mises.org/system/tdf/Henry%20Hazlitt%20Economics%20in%20One%20Lesson.pdf?file=1&type=document >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,do you even own a tomahawk missile.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,AU,,1491276162 119444370,119444392,2017-04-04 03:23:06,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491276186 119444370,119444421,2017-04-04 03:23:31,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491276211 119444370,119444448,2017-04-04 03:24:00,"hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491276240 119444370,119444882,2017-04-04 03:31:18,>>119444444,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491276678 119444370,119444955,2017-04-04 03:32:14,what about the roads?,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491276734 119444370,119445446,2017-04-04 03:40:05,">>119444955 wtf i hate anarchy now",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491277205 119444370,119445485,2017-04-04 03:40:50,">>119444955 Oh shit I didn't think of that",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491277250 119444370,119445706,2017-04-04 03:44:36,">>119445446 >>119445485 Heh, better luck next time",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491277476 119444370,119445741,2017-04-04 03:45:11,">>119444955 You don't need a road when there's no car and the limited list of items you need is made in your town now because specialization has gone the way of the dinosaur and you now live in a primitive agrarian society. See? Everything worked out great",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491277511 119444370,119445796,2017-04-04 03:46:07,who /BrapCap/ here?,,Anonymous,brapcap.jpg,Z/ioHGKPXgEIGF8HYqe68w==,AU,,1491277567 119444370,119445806,2017-04-04 03:46:16,"If you want a quick, thorough rundown of right-libertarianism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6InUaGbtw8k Hoppe basically nails it in 40 min",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491277576 119444370,119445872,2017-04-04 03:47:19,,,Anonymous,1490680120288.png,hRch28jTgQXcrCfmAKqfMQ==,GB,,1491277639 119444370,119445967,2017-04-04 03:49:07,">>119445806 >Hoppe basically nails it >Implying you didn't adopt your entire belief system from him AnCaps are fucking cringeworthy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491277747 119444370,119446073,2017-04-04 03:50:40,">>119445872 Yeah it's pretty hard to wrap your head around the idea that public and private borders are different things >>119445967 I was ancap before I saw it, Mr. Psychiatrist",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491277840 119444370,119446098,2017-04-04 03:51:00,">>119444955 the roads will be privatized and more efficient because the company that owns the road needs to make his road efficient in order to stay in business with competition. You already have to pay for roads with taxes so paying to drive isnt anything new. Roads will also be cheap to drive on thanks to competition driving the prices down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491277860 119444370,119446113,2017-04-04 03:51:17,">>119444370 >This flag >Libertarian thread Something is wrong ... every libertarian thread appears a aussie NeetSoc Edgyboi.",,Anonymous,eJwNxcsNwyAMANBdGACD-dnZBhFEUiUFgXuKunv7Lu9Rn3mpTR0iY20A-7lKn7te0mduVbfe21XzOJcu_YYskstx17cswBQixZT-GXTReA_IaDhYF5iTZ4fBgPVEkcgisY_6NZr6_gDBQCKS.e8av3vb6ezV2Ij7odDZRANQRFhg.jpg,AqqJ6ePzqe0bITAhMaxndA==,BR,,1491277877 119444370,119446233,2017-04-04 03:53:09,"Is ancap libertarian? Or is it its own thing? If you're ancap, do you identify as liberatarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491277989 119444370,119446402,2017-04-04 03:56:01,">>119446233 It is libertarianism taken to the lattest logical conclusions. If anything minarchism (aka small gov) is just watered down libertarianism.",,Anonymous,disfunctional people nukes Molyneux.jpg,c+UObPRjWqdwO+lHg9wIDA==,ES,,1491278161 119444370,119446468,2017-04-04 03:56:54,">>119446098 Look a serious reply. You got me interested. How exactly you would pay for the roads. Obvioulsy there would be lots of companies. Say that you have to travel from one coast to another in USA. You're already paying (maybe annualy) to your local road company, what about the others from afar? You would rent it for the month you'll be traveling? I'm assuming that it would be dirt cheap because the entire US urban system kinds of force you to have a car if you want to move, so there wouldn't be a shortage of costumers for the company.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491278214 119444370,119446505,2017-04-04 03:57:30,">>119444370 so the only way we can sell rationalism to people is to dress it up in faggotry and faggy flags and cuntistry? goddamn fucking faggots instead of deciding if they want to be free, people are choosing which color flag goes better with their converse and cell phone case",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1491278250 119444370,119446811,2017-04-04 04:02:24,">>119446233 Libertarianism means small government. Generally this means that the government is limited to justice, immigration and defence. Ancarcho-capitalism means no government, with the functions of government being entirely replaced by private firms. This is a much more narrow ideology because it is defined by the Non-Aggression Principle. There is a huge amount of agreement between libertarians and ancaps because they both want to go in the same direction. Shrink the government, decentralise power.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491278544 119444370,119446950,2017-04-04 04:04:20,">>119446505 It's just a flag lol",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491278660 119444370,119447120,2017-04-04 04:06:54,">>119446468 There could be some sort of ""subscription"" or ""insurance"" company that you pay a fixed fee every month for the use of roads in general and that company acts as a middleman between the different road owning companies and you so you only have to pay to one guy but still use lots of roads belonging to different owners. Nowadays most toll roads allow you to pass without even stopping, you just need a sticker in the windshield that identifies you so you can get billed on it. Different road owners would find it useful and would generally agree to use that same system since the ones not using it would inconvenience their customers by making them stop at their toll.",,Anonymous,private-roads-comic.png,SET2TlD8/bze/Zi3PlH02A==,ES,,1491278814 119444370,119447562,2017-04-04 04:13:00,">>119446468 Private roads would be more efficient than ever with the internet, instant communication and electronics. People where I live have devices in their cars that communicate with machines on toll roads. There's no way to know how firms would choose to operate, but there would almost definitely be large syndicates that join companies to a common payment system. I'd expect private roads to be cheaper than public ones.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491279180 119444370,119447743,2017-04-04 04:15:42,Ancap is a joke kys,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491279342 119444370,119447757,2017-04-04 04:15:54,">>119447120 Tbh Privatisation of Britain's rail infrastructure has turned it to shit",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491279354 119444370,119447771,2017-04-04 04:16:04,">>119445967 I was ancap before reading a libertarian paper you're a cringy statist enjoy your pound devaluation, I bet you're so financially irresponsible and ignorant you were not even protected from it retard, get what you deserve pleb",,Anonymous,Sin-título-1.jpg,brcw3ID6bYscwe9JPA/Uzw==,ES,,1491279364 119444370,119448012,2017-04-04 04:19:42,">>119447757 Because privatization without opening to competition is the same as public service with the minor difference of it having external management.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491279582 119444370,119448139,2017-04-04 04:21:12,">>119447120 >>119447562 Shit, completely forgot about those things on the roads that identify you with an eletronic device or whatever. Cool idea, desu",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491279672 119444370,119448480,2017-04-04 04:26:36,">>119448012 it's a pain in the ass to live with everyone calling ""privatization"" to that kind of events It's always the same bullshit, private management under non-free market competition and they call it private People are retarded I'm not even going to feel any pity when all these tards enjoy the next recession They're idiots and deserve all the fuck ups their arrogant ignorance and detachment from reality creates",,Anonymous,last_laught_best_laught.jpg,JeSt6a7GZI+FNtPaJcCgIA==,ES,,1491279996 119444370,119448615,2017-04-04 04:28:48,,,Anonymous,1491150999484.jpg,Fjc+1rmjMKyYacdb/2ARjQ==,BE,,1491280128 119444370,119448649,2017-04-04 04:29:22,">>119447757 As much as I hate to say it, under the current context privatisation often means that the industry or infrastructure that is now not owned by the state just changes hands to some crony of the politicians. It is not supposed to work in a free competition environment but it should. >>119448615 Bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491280162 119444370,119448693,2017-04-04 04:30:09,">>119444370 bumping because of interest",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491280209 119444370,119448706,2017-04-04 04:30:18,>>119447743,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1490859344917.jpg,7wlr7Z+VAUz6v7YYYkbfFg==,SE,,1491280218 119444370,119449053,2017-04-04 04:35:34,">>119447743 >>119448615",,Anonymous,hoppean removal now.jpg,d9GFGY1Y+gt+6L78F2Xijg==,BR,,1491280534 119444370,119449296,2017-04-04 04:39:57,"Both socialism and libertarianism lead to destruction of the past. This >muh hoppe cringe is just a half-assed try at being remotly ""right-wing"".",,Anonymous,1465885116830.jpg,v/LLiX7pcZsxU/R1ereOdA==,NL,,1491280797 119444370,119449443,2017-04-04 04:42:43,">>119449296 Tradition has nothing to do with government. Cultural preservation happens in culture. If you want to conserve the great things in our history then you speak, write and work. Bureaucrats aren't helping you.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491280963 119444370,119449544,2017-04-04 04:44:30,I'm libertarian and not ancap because where's the liberty if you don't have protection from infringement on your liberty because of someone else's liberty? I.E.: murder.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491281070 119444370,119449579,2017-04-04 04:45:15,">>119449443 Individualism in inherintly anti-traditionalist.",,Anonymous,John_Milton.jpg,mxUFswaX5I1EkioQ2a4KEQ==,NL,,1491281115 119444370,119449584,2017-04-04 04:45:19,">>119449296 Strange, someone created Communist thread today and was from Netherlands",,Anonymous,1488319330866.jpg,QLIUZ26a1MH/Uo1nSn8nPw==,BR,,1491281119 119444370,119449691,2017-04-04 04:47:01,">>119449584 I think me posting a codreanu quote implicates im not a commie. The fact that I denounce socialism also does that. Cant blame a hue for being stupid I geuss",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491281221 119444370,119449806,2017-04-04 04:49:15,">>119449579 And why is libertarianism inherently individualist? I believe in family, charity, collectivisation and nationhood. How does government hurt or help these things? Why do they require government? These are cultural ideas. You can't rely on government policies to carry any of these.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491281355 119444370,119450431,2017-04-04 05:00:25,">>119449806 >why is libertarianism inherintly indidualist Because it is build on the idea that you do not inherintly owe anything to anybody, including your ancestors and offspring. A government is there to continue something that was started in many cases many centuries ago, serving to nation. The libertarian individual has no such ties to the past oe future, and thus will act in self interest. And this self interest in contrast to popular an-cap memery is not de-facto in the interest of the nation. You cant realy ln the government, but it is expected. Nothing isnexpected of the individual",,Anonymous,Horatius.jpg,PADgMj6eS8EAG/Ycr1O0bw==,NL,,1491282025 119444370,119450919,2017-04-04 05:08:54,">>119450431 >Because it is build on the idea that you do not inherintly owe anything to anybody, including your ancestors and offspring. But why should we be forced to do these things? Isn't peacefully advocating these responsibilities better than forcing them with a government that can arbitrarily define them? >A government is there to continue something that was started in many cases many centuries ago, serving to nation. What makes individuals and private groups incapable of doing this? What's stopping the government from destroying tradition, as it is doing today?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491282534 119444370,119451660,2017-04-04 05:21:52,">>119450919 >why would we be forced to do these things Because it could be seen a responsibility. You are not forced to, you are not allowed to activly go against it. >muh peace What happened to physical removal and helicopter rides >what would make an individual incapable of doing this I just told you in my previous post. This is why goverments make readinf compehension mandatory >what is stopping governments from destroying tradition Traitors, would say jews but that might not be to the liking of the many redditors in this general.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491283312 119444370,119451752,2017-04-04 05:23:29,"Bump for Private Death Squads! Day of the Removal soon.",,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1491283409 119444370,119452353,2017-04-04 05:33:29,">>119451660 >Because it could be seen a responsibility. You are not forced to, you are not allowed to activly go against it. So what are you even advocating? Do we need the government to enforce tradition or not? >What happened to physical removal and helicopter rides I never said mentioned either of those things >I just told you in my previous post. This is why goverments make readinf compehension mandatory But you haven't proven that government is necessary for the preservation of tradition and responsibility. You can't control culture. >Traitors, would say jews but that might not be to the liking of the many redditors in this general. So government isn't actually an agent of good, it just helps to promote certain ideas at certain times. You're saying that these traitors should have the ability to control us in the form of government legislation.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491284009 119444370,119452443,2017-04-04 05:34:47,">>119444370 Best ancap book to read first?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491284087 119444370,119452486,2017-04-04 05:35:21,">>119450431 You care a bout your ancestors and offspring right? you'd do right by them even if there wasn't a state right? You care because the goverment makes you care? Your inclination to family and kin IS A SELFISH INTREST, it is an INDIVIDUALISTIC DISIRE. >>119452443 Anatomy of the State.",,Anonymous,HOPPE-Recovered.png,1wPaBRZcBLAdtLRnqap+ng==,US,,1491284121 119444370,119452614,2017-04-04 05:37:25,">>119445967 No but he is somehow different from many other libertarian authors Hoppe can in a one hour speech philosophically prove that property is the most basic law of social interaction and he builds his ideology up based on that and it just makes sense",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491284245 119444370,119452672,2017-04-04 05:38:20,>>119452486,,Anonymous,individualism.jpg,E3gm87CYkiQx2vHhutpRRQ==,BR,,1491284300 119444370,119452714,2017-04-04 05:39:01,">>119452443 The Road to Serfdom by Hayek is probably not AnCap in the real sense but it gives you quite a good introduction into libertarian thinking and it btfo's communism and socialism pretty hard",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491284341 119444370,119452771,2017-04-04 05:40:05,Kekistan should be ancap,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491284405 119444370,119452791,2017-04-04 05:40:27,">>119452771 You should be killed and Sargon too",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491284427 119444370,119452821,2017-04-04 05:41:04,">>119452672 Volintary collectivism is fine. Caring about your people is fine. ""I agree with the elder murray rothbard and hans-hermann hoppe that libertarianism is a right-wing movement and that the leftist elements are useful idiots at worst, and a cancer that can only be cured by one way helicopter rides at the far mor likely worst""",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,gE8J9/IZBrZF+KKFZ8/fDw==,US,,1491284464 119444370,119452837,2017-04-04 05:41:18,">>119452791 Dont compare me to that demon",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491284478 119444370,119452908,2017-04-04 05:42:24,">>119452837 Then stop shitting around with your lelelele kekistan lelelelele",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491284544 119444370,119453014,2017-04-04 05:43:47,">>119452672 volintary collectivism is fine you cuckboy. ""I agree with the elder murray rothbard and hans-hermann hoppe that libertarianism is a right-wing movement and that the leftist elements are useful idiots at best, and a cancer that can only be cured by one way helicopter rides at the far mor likely worst""",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,gE8J9/IZBrZF+KKFZ8/fDw==,US,,1491284627 119444370,119453024,2017-04-04 05:43:58,"Unofficial leftypol discord . https://discord.gg/ykqVP8a",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491284638 119444370,119453199,2017-04-04 05:46:42,">>119452714 >>119452486 Thanks for the help niggas. Quick question, can I be a traditionalist, nationalist and an ancap?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491284802 119444370,119453375,2017-04-04 05:49:23,">>119453199 YES. and PLEASE DO. Love your people not because hitler will kill you if you don't, but because you love your people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491284963 119444370,119453439,2017-04-04 05:50:21,">>119453199 Traditionalism implies statism so that is a no unless you'd want to form an AnCap society and then look for people who want to voluntarily form a state with you but what's the point then Nationalism also implies statism since you'd need a state to enforce policies that protect your national culture and demographics etc so I don#t think that would be possible You could though in an AnCap society just get together with other people who don't wand mudshits in their town and just don't allow them to enter your property",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491285021 119444370,119453482,2017-04-04 05:51:00,">>119452353 >So what are you even advocating? Do we need the government to enforce tradition or not? I already answered this >I never said mentioned either of those things That is even worse >You can't control culture. By emforcing certain laws you most certainly can >So government isn't actually an agent of good, it just helps to promote certain ideas at certain times. Never implied they are inherintly good, just implied it is expecyed from them. Contrary to the individual >You're saying that these traitors should have the ability to control us in the form of government legislation. No, the traitors need to be purged ofcourse.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491285060 119444370,119453529,2017-04-04 05:51:42,">>119453375 Anarcho Capitalism doesn't sound that bad, I honestly don't know why people don't bash anarcho communism as much considering that ideology is more of an oxymoron.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491285102 119444370,119453544,2017-04-04 05:52:01,">>119446113 >black lipstick AVOID",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1491285121 119444370,119453591,2017-04-04 05:52:38,">>119453439 If I can control who goes in my town or not I'm fine.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491285158 119444370,119453670,2017-04-04 05:53:53,">>119447757 It always has been private you dult",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1491285233 119444370,119453744,2017-04-04 05:54:57,"Minarchism is superior to AnCap. Prove me wrong.",,Anonymous,PJ-Ron-Paul-1.jpg,ditUH6y4DagFzomkvMVZiQ==,US,,1491285297 119444370,119453917,2017-04-04 05:57:45,Pinochetan Minarchy is the only way to create ancapistan,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1490437740220.jpg,YG6mVW7FXVl/YsEPaYK/SA==,NZ,,1491285465 119444370,119453926,2017-04-04 05:57:52,">>119453744 who will prevent cucks from building roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491285472 119444370,119454047,2017-04-04 05:59:44,">>119453014 cooperation isn't colectivism you fucking gaylord",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491285584 119444370,119454307,2017-04-04 06:03:31,">>119453926 The companies that build roads. The government is just there to ensure that the citizens don't nuke™ each other everyday and ensure that the people have a place in international politics instead of several million companies. Also they can enforce or process copyright laws or something.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491285811 119444370,119454417,2017-04-04 06:05:09,">>119453744 >Give the power-hungry psycho's interested in political power the military, police and courts. Yeah that'll keep them contained and prevent them from growing the state back out to the cancerous tumor it is today",,Anonymous,1490080162564.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,NL,,1491285909 119444370,119454550,2017-04-04 06:07:14,">>119448615 It's not self-sacrifice if you think the end result is worth it, and it's not self-sacrifice if it's at gunpoint.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491286034 119444370,119454853,2017-04-04 06:11:41,">>119453024 Plaease do get another hundred million or so people killed, their memory wears thin.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491286301 119444370,119455636,2017-04-04 06:24:03,,,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1491287043 119444370,119455748,2017-04-04 06:25:48,">>119453917 Based Hobbit.",,Anonymous,1490844848240.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,BR,,1491287148 119444370,119455783,2017-04-04 06:26:17,">>119453529 Israeli (((Kibbutz))) were the closest things to anarcho-communism and they pretty much all adopted currencies and started to decollectivize because it wasn't natural. It's just a big pipe dream after all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491287177 119444370,119455829,2017-04-04 06:26:57,,,Anonymous,"Photo Apr 03, 8 52 08 PM.png",6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1491287217 119444370,119456098,2017-04-04 06:31:15,">>119455829 Rothbard when younger was a handsome man... no homo.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491287475 119444370,119456105,2017-04-04 06:31:21,">>119455783 That is the #1 argument against commies if you think about it. They say that ALL wage work is inherently exploitative, regardless of how good or bad its conditions, yet +99% of commies IRL prefer to have a job working for someone else instead of working in cooperatives where the employees own the means of production because it's easier and deep down they know their living standards would be way lower than they are working for a wage. That's why commies are ridiculous, they don't walk their talk.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491287481 119444370,119456338,2017-04-04 06:35:07,">>119456098 Certainly better looking than a lot of people for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491287707 119444370,119456595,2017-04-04 06:39:00,">>119455829 Nice, you make this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491287940 119444370,119457160,2017-04-04 06:47:43,">>119456595 Yeah. Thought it would clear up some things on Rothbard. No way in hell he was a social Liberal, hell he trashed Liberals and even mentioned Antonio Gramasci and ""the long march through the institutions."" He's definitely redpilled on Cultural Marxism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491288463 119444370,119457429,2017-04-04 06:52:12,">>119457160 Right on, keep it up.",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1491288732 119444370,119458492,2017-04-04 07:07:48,Bump,,Anonymous,hsm__101_.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1491289668 119444370,119459224,2017-04-04 07:17:45,">need to remove undesirables to create your paradise society >authoritarian measures need to be used >people take advantage of license and society degenerates creating new undesirables >authoritarian measures need to be used to remove undersirables Rinse and repeat. Stop being such hypocrites and embrace true freedom",,Anonymous,1485269599392.jpg,0pr2c4adUhGyPeCuM6VD1w==,NL,,1491290265 119444370,119459865,2017-04-04 07:26:48,">>119444370 >>119444392 >>119444421",,Anonymous,ancap studies.jpg,lQf97SMk6d9hUmGBTyeTgw==,BR,,1491290808 119444370,119460084,2017-04-04 07:30:06,">>119459224 >true freedom >autocracy >authoritarian measures >pushing people of your property",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491291006 119444370,119460143,2017-04-04 07:31:00,">>119460084 *off",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491291060 119444370,119460146,2017-04-04 07:31:03,">>119460084 Undesirables can own property",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491291063 119444370,119460258,2017-04-04 07:32:45,The ancoms had a bigger area on place than you. Haha you suck,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491291165 119444370,119460351,2017-04-04 07:34:14,">>119460146 So? If the community doesn't like them they can push them out through collective ostracism. And if they're not a hazard or nobody has a problem with them, who cares? Why should every community listen to your dear leader? Maybe he's wrong and time will tell. And the best communities prosper.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491291254 119444370,119460825,2017-04-04 07:40:49,>>119460351,,Anonymous,wpid-hoppe-democracy.jpeg.jpg,DVg//D9V0jEWuGe/oSBYKg==,NL,,1491291649 119444370,119461257,2017-04-04 07:47:15,">>119460825 What's your point? Democracy allows your undesirables to stand together and fuck over your community. Under ancap they don't get nearly as much influence and are confined to the communities that will have them. And those communities will self-destruct if they are allowed to do damage. You can't save everybody. And you especially can't save them if you put one guy in charge and hope for the best.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491292035 119444370,119461707,2017-04-04 07:53:09,">>119461257 >whats is your point That your hoppean trash ideology consists of contradiction after contradiction Under a true government they wil get 0 influence, turns out my dear leader is actually right",,Anonymous,Autarchia.jpg,aiqgsHxtI1xxaAQhFJk26w==,NL,,1491292389 119444370,119461977,2017-04-04 07:57:20,">>119452486 ayy senpai where my Rothbard and Mises Pepes at? >>119461707 what contradictions?",,Anonymous,hoppe wallpaper.png,6FFkhfNPzOTFG7fBozaoCw==,PT,,1491292640 119444370,119462050,2017-04-04 07:58:19,">>119461707 >true government >Fascists Yeah central planning and turning your citizenry into obedient cattle is gonna work wonders. If you're dear leader that is. >Under a true government they wil get 0 influence Or maybe they get 100& influence and destroy the country. Putting all your eggs into one basket is beyond retarded.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491292699 119444370,119462571,2017-04-04 08:05:39,">>119462050 >obedient cattle Says the consumerist. They will not turn into catlle, they will find freedom in true glory or die trying >if you're dear leader that is Excuse me >or maybe they get 100% Not likely >>119461977 >what contradictions That what he is advocating for creates undesirables that he in turn also wishes to remove. Hoppeans are in a way suicidal",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491293139 119444370,119462842,2017-04-04 08:09:16,">>119462571 How does it create undesirables? Undesirables are largely sponsored and subsidized by the welfare state and by public institutions and public education. Remove those from the equation and degeneracy returns to the closet or even fades away. Have you even bothered to read Democracy—The God That Failed?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491293356 119444370,119463042,2017-04-04 08:12:00,">>119444370 Fuck off Cantwell you kike looking faggot. No one buys your """"""right"""""" libertarian shit here.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491293520 119444370,119463044,2017-04-04 08:12:01,">>119461977 I made a rothbard that looked shitty so I didn't post it. Imma redo it today",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491293521 119444370,119463061,2017-04-04 08:12:17,">>119462842 >how does it create undesirables license I am also not advocating for the current system of subversion >returns to the closet This is delusional",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491293537 119444370,119463175,2017-04-04 08:14:01,">>119463042 You can fuck right off, (((socialist)))",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491293641 119444370,119463188,2017-04-04 08:14:15,">>119458492 What is the bisected orange and black symbol, and the gray and black one?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491293655 119444370,119463232,2017-04-04 08:14:48,">>119462571 >consumerist Recognizing private property is more than just a means to achieve prosperity. It would also allow for more autonomy and interaction with your community. >they will find freedom in servitude or die disobeying >Not likely You have no way of guaranteeing that. I'd rather not take those chances. Also I consider Dolfie, Mussolini and the rest of the garbage as extremely undesirable.",,Anonymous,King of Thailand.jpg,WxnLHrI3txCVhcsXITaPpw==,SI,,1491293688 119444370,119463523,2017-04-04 08:18:32,">>119463188 Orange is mutualism grey is agorism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491293912 119444370,119463778,2017-04-04 08:21:53,">>119463523 Thanks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491294113 119444370,119463835,2017-04-04 08:22:37,">>119463232 >that pic Im not a monarchist You connot deny its consumerist nature >servitude or die disobeying In contrast to disobbeying the written or unwritten rules of the community or be ""physically removed"". Again hypocracy. >you have no way of guaranteeing that Not is to be taken for granted in live >extremely undesirable The feeling is mutual >>119463175 Stop pretending your jewish ideology is right wing, its a laughable effort at best",,Anonymous,MeettheFilthyLibertarianAnarchoCapitalistJewsAynRandLudwigvonMisesMurryRothbardMiltonFriedman.jpg,7TXcLGHXXw2qVKv2w2BvGQ==,NL,,1491294157 119444370,119463956,2017-04-04 08:24:07,">>119463061 You're not making any arguments so I won't even bother. You're clearly beyond retardation.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491294247 119444370,119464045,2017-04-04 08:25:32,">>119463956 I already made arguments in previous posts. This is the point were you post gunny snek and helicopter maymas",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491294332 119444370,119464101,2017-04-04 08:26:17,"Big corporations would just PLAAAAAAY with an AnCap society. To them it would be like playing a game with cheats. Enjoy getting blacked.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491294377 119444370,119464619,2017-04-04 08:33:01,">>119463835 >its consumerist nature And your autocracy isn't? What makes you think dear leader isn't gonna do what's in his best interest and extract as much value as he can? What incentive does he have to be some benevolent angel outside of being killed if he fucks up? Why not just circumvent that whole retardation and let the best communities come out on top and expand? It's pure natural selection. No need for an enlightened designer. >physically removed That doesn't mean death you retard. It's literal removal. >Not is to be taken for granted in live Are you having a stroke? Are you trying to say ""nothing is to be taken for granted""? Well then why are you willing to take those chances? Nature provided the best solution already. Just let natural selection do its bit and decentralize the process. Waiting for angels to fix society is some dumb shit. >The feeling is mutual Well good. And under ancap you could create a bootlicking community. See how long you last. Just leave me out of it.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491294781 119444370,119464678,2017-04-04 08:33:45,">>119464045 >This is the point were you post gunny snek and helicopter maymas kek this. Such a low energy ideology they have to pretend Pinochet was their guy. Sad, . They post the same old shit. Just as annoying as that Spanish communist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491294825 119444370,119465013,2017-04-04 08:38:34,">>119444370 >Lolbertardian >Right pick one, kikes",,Anonymous,controlled_opposition.jpg,Atxnk7g744CwcWdTKQxTig==,US,,1491295114 119444370,119465126,2017-04-04 08:40:02,">>119463061 Degenerates are only able to be open degenerates because it's illegal not to hire fags cause they're fags. If you stop welfare and anti discrimination those fags will shut their faggot mouths or be discriminated against. Degenerates are dependent on the state to protect them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491295202 119444370,119465389,2017-04-04 08:43:12,">>119465126 >it's illegal not to hire fags cause they're fags Welfare has nothing to do with that. It's cultural capitalism. Big corps can very extremely subversive, just as much as the closet marxist school teahcers who have just come out of 'gender studies'.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491295392 119444370,119465478,2017-04-04 08:44:18,"In an ancap society, wouldn't cities, towns or in general different groups establish micro-states with taxes, welfare systems etc. and grow by the time until we have the same setting like now? Serious question.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491295458 119444370,119465755,2017-04-04 08:47:35,">>119459865 Amazing, anon. Great job. I would also include ""The Death of Politics"", by Karl Hess. Haven't read it but it's a great read as far as I know. https://liberty.me/library/the-death-of-politics/ https://mises.org/library/death-politics",,Anonymous,deathofpolitics2.jpg,uynuD64wrtMByMAnx0BKyg==,ES,,1491295655 119444370,119465856,2017-04-04 08:48:51,">>119465126 >Degenerates are dependent on the state to protect them >Fucking moralfags legislating morality telling me who is too young to fuck in the ass pick one lolbertards",,Anonymous,ancap2.png,d4RUA+P5E0kGWFqJjciluQ==,US,,1491295731 119444370,119465947,2017-04-04 08:50:01,">>119465389 You're right it's not welfare it's anti traditionalist, discrimination laws. The state hates you buddy. All around the world the state imposes anti decency laws to crush you. That's what the state does. The state is not going to favor you. The state will favor leftists because they want a more powerful government. The state will crush you and promote Marxism because Marxism gives them more power.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491295801 119444370,119466019,2017-04-04 08:50:47,">>119465856 I pick the first one, cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491295847 119444370,119466071,2017-04-04 08:51:26,">>119464619 >that doesnt mean deatg Implying going aginst the state means certain death >are you having a troke Im phone posting >just let nature do its bid Fascism like nature is hierarchical and not egaliterian in any way. Humans are social creatures that will follow the alphamale. Humans seek to be part of something, part of a culturem. Subverting these primal instincts give you libertarianism (individualism) and socialism (egalitarianism)",,Anonymous,1490700697971.jpg,bVdmFj65NvDU1pvYxeR4TA==,NL,,1491295886 119444370,119466163,2017-04-04 08:52:35,">>119466019 Its not my choice, its yours lolbertard",,Anonymous,1483394413543.png,x03h/sKaGiTN++n64xZQSA==,US,,1491295955 119444370,119466333,2017-04-04 08:54:32,">>119461977 >what contradictions? -t. Nupol here from Plebbit for Le Snek Meme",,Anonymous,Ancap meme.jpg,BCsGX0HDysx0o7sfoMiWqQ==,US,,1491296072 119444370,119466592,2017-04-04 08:57:46,">>119466163 Fuck off child fucking is a meme created by you. I don't have to defend that blatant degenercy. Off yourself faggot. I stick by my choice, d&c kikes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491296266 119444370,119466781,2017-04-04 09:00:27,>>119466592,,Anonymous,63ccce9bca934382ce1f56abf3997cbb.jpg,Y8zOm8qTQ4LOH1ar85l8uw==,US,,1491296427 119444370,119466823,2017-04-04 09:01:00,">>119465947 I only see the state as use for Emergency services, Military/Border control, Railways/Major-Roads. Plus I, as well as many other people, are pretty much on the look out for health & safety. Last thing we want happening is some family man dying because some greedy jew wanted to cut corners on the safety of his worksite. >blah blah blah state this blah and state that Because we have retarded people voting. These people (women mainly) will keep wanting more state because of their combination of Idiocracy and laziness. Democracy (or republic) has turned into a mess as all you have to do in order to vote, is to be 18 years old. Only taxpayers should be allowed to vote, and the good news is, most taxpayers will be more than happy to give some of their earnings for the ''state'' as a whole to provide decent services.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491296460 119444370,119466912,2017-04-04 09:02:07,">>119465478 As long as society allows you to switch insurers and retain full control over your property, any social programs that develop would be voluntary. Of course you are still limited to the actions of communities but I doubt that in such a system where you disassociate with people on a dime taxation would develop to a large degree. >>119466071 >Implying going aginst the state means certain death It means aggression. Simply not giving service to someone isn't aggression. You are not entitled to someone's service or to occupy their property. >like nature is hierarchical and not egaliterian in any way Ancap doesn't remove hierarchy. At least under ancap it's based on merit not how good you are at playing politics.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491296527 119444370,119467271,2017-04-04 09:06:41,"Another thing about ((AnCap)) is the fact you'd be having big States or even commie dictatorships next door, building armies and planning out annexations to take some land and resources near them. Meanwhile AnCaps are bickering over roads, and cats who jump onto their lawns. Really makes you think.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491296801 119444370,119467408,2017-04-04 09:08:44,">>119467271 No that's you fags who get upset about roads. We all agree on that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491296924 119444370,119467421,2017-04-04 09:08:51,">>119466912 >not how good you are at playong politics The warrior class is very highly regarded,nothing to do with politics >>119467271 Those nations would never violate the NAP you dummy",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491296931 119444370,119467455,2017-04-04 09:09:24,">>119444370 What's /lrg/'s opinion on Marine Le Pen?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491296964 119444370,119467573,2017-04-04 09:10:52,">>119467421 >military dictatorship >nothing to do with politics",,Anonymous,1468897924342.jpg,HQfZ7ucvvnzzbCzygB0b1Q==,SI,,1491297052 119444370,119467624,2017-04-04 09:11:36,">>119466912 >Ancap doesn't remove hierarchy. At least under ancap it's based on merit not how good you are at playing politics. And fascism is big government AND big business, so you have two types of large entities that screw over individuals and their merit when any of these entities feels threatened.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491297096 119444370,119467792,2017-04-04 09:13:50,">>119444955 The roads will be physically removed helicopterally.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491297230 119444370,119467798,2017-04-04 09:13:57,">>119467271 Every attack on ancap is a fucking meme. Pedo, roads are not our talking points >>119467455 Probably working with kikes, but if she anti eu she a good girl.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491297237 119444370,119467881,2017-04-04 09:15:01,">>119467573 The warrior is not highly regarded because of his politcal prowess. Good job missing the point",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491297301 119444370,119468057,2017-04-04 09:17:25,">>119467881 So Hitler and Mussolini were among the best soldiers ever? They weren't playing politics to get where they were? How are this stupid?",,Anonymous,Manul WHAT.jpg,3KsIcK/6Z0hU5xokgcpwTw==,SI,,1491297445 119444370,119468139,2017-04-04 09:18:28,"TIME PREFERENCE -- BASIC CONCEPT OF ECONOMICS >In economics, time preference (or time discounting,[1] delay discounting, temporal discounting)[2] is the current relative valuation placed on receiving a good at an earlier date compared with receiving it at a later date.[3] >There is no absolute distinction that separates ""high"" and ""low"" time preference, only comparisons with others either individually or in aggregate. Someone with a high time preference is focused substantially on his well-being in the present and the immediate future relative to the average person, while someone with low time preference places more emphasis than average on their well-being in the further future. Government intervention can in part be conceptualized as the way in which low time preference individual have to subsidize the way of life of high time preference individuals, thereby increasing the overall time preference of society, which is part and parcel of a process of DEGENERACY. Any society that orient itself toward high time preference encourages its citizen to approximate more and more the behavior of animals, and not that of future oriented individuals, capable of planning ahead for both themselves and future generations. >In his book Capital and Interest, the Austrian economist Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk built upon the time-preference ideas of Carl Menger, insisting that there is always a difference in value between present goods and future goods of equal quality, quantity, and form. Furthermore, the value of future goods diminishes as the length of time necessary for their completion increases. >In Human Action (chapter 18), Ludwig von Mises discusses time inconsistency: that sooner-occurring future intervals are valued more highly than later-occurring future intervals.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491297508 119444370,119468154,2017-04-04 09:18:42,">>119467798 A libertarian society cannot defend itself against an actual nation. This is not a meme. Funny thing you dislike memes when every thread is: HOPE AMIRITE GUIS CHEK THIS EPIK CUOTE!1!!1!!1!!1 LE HELIKOPTER Xxdxd OMG DID YOU GIUS CHEK OUT THIS BASED JEWISH AUTHORoneonekne1q!!!",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491297522 119444370,119468155,2017-04-04 09:18:44,">>119467455 She's anti-EU",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491297524 119444370,119468209,2017-04-04 09:19:27,">>119468057 *are you Also take a look at this fine warrior.",,Anonymous,Kim troll.jpg,O8UuX4mOyrjYMmMeNcsHPQ==,SI,,1491297567 119444370,119468301,2017-04-04 09:20:46,">>119444955 theres no need for them, an anarchic society won't be advanced enough to build cars",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491297646 119444370,119468307,2017-04-04 09:20:52,">>119453199 >>119453375 >>119453591 If you guys actually read Road to Serfdom, you would realise that nationalism is a huge no-no. Also Hayek was the far from being an Ancap. He believed government had a large role to play regarding environment, national defense and even roads. If you want someone who believes in Ancap ideology read anything John Locke.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1491297652 119444370,119468364,2017-04-04 09:21:47,">>119468057 Hitler was a war hero actually. How they got to power has nothing to do with my argument, no ieldea why you are even mentioning it",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491297707 119444370,119468378,2017-04-04 09:22:02,">>119467421 >muh NAP >implying subhuman, ant-hill minded, non-moral chinks give a fuck about your NAP You better hurry up and get your little AnCap community prepared, Mirral. There's an army of 800,000 chinks coming over the hill. Better put those contracts down for a second huh.",,Anonymous,download.jpg,/x3Nydjo1dd4LnXabAsVuA==,GB,,1491297722 119444370,119468387,2017-04-04 09:22:10,">>119444370 keep this general going please OP! You are doing god's work. This has to continue. We have to drive out all these statist bootlickers that ruined this board for almost 2 years.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491297730 119444370,119468419,2017-04-04 09:22:45,">>119468364 >How they got to power has nothing to do with my argument Politics, you idiot.",,Anonymous,Manul lol.jpg,Yo4LFqIb0pVUCNgRN4yNJQ==,SI,,1491297765 119444370,119468442,2017-04-04 09:23:01,">>119468154 We meme too much, we don't get memes, make up your fucking mind. Private defense works fine already. Don't be so faggy with your all caps chimpout.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491297781 119444370,119468456,2017-04-04 09:23:13,">>119468378 Thats what I was implying bud, so hostile...",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491297793 119444370,119468510,2017-04-04 09:23:56,">>119468307 >If you guys actually read Road to Serfdom, you would realise that nationalism is a huge no-no. Hayek wrote at a time when ""nationalism"" started to be more or less synonymous with NAZI behavior and the borderline mystical elements that existed within that movement. There's a way to conceptualize nationalism as being the idea that a people is the material base on which a culture can exist and be transmitted from one generation to the next, and this culture may include a notions such as that of individualism and personal liberty. Hayek isn't some set of chains we need to be wholly restrained by. (Perhaps this wasn't your point.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491297836 119444370,119468560,2017-04-04 09:24:32,">>119467798 Because that's how much of a meme of an ideology it is within itself, unless the world consisted of only 20 people. Face it, m8, no one is EVER going to fall for this ideology. I enjoyed following your ideology when I grew out of marx though. We all think we're adults when we reach 20 years old, yeah, don't we?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491297872 119444370,119468717,2017-04-04 09:26:46,">>119468442 >private defense Is that how you call a microstate of 10 autists defending their loli dungeons with nagants nowadays >>119468419 What are you talking about. Hitler and Mussolini have nothing to do with anything. You were implying that politics are the only things in play in the hirarchical structure of fascism",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491298006 119444370,119468950,2017-04-04 09:29:38,">>119468717 >politics are the only things in play in the hirarchical structure of fascism It's a huge factor you seem to be ignoring. Not even gonna waste my time.",,Anonymous,1473009371674.gif,fooffaf5ByRmmc8aF11gAA==,SI,,1491298178 119444370,119469022,2017-04-04 09:30:32,">>119468560 Kek, Marxists always become fascists. Just look at Hitler and especially Mussolini. Glad I was never a filthy communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491298232 119444370,119469126,2017-04-04 09:31:54,">>119468950 I was implying it not the ONLY thing",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491298314 119444370,119469213,2017-04-04 09:33:00,">>119468510 I suppose it depends on how you define Nationalism. I define it as a superiority complex over other nations which his book also uses this type of conception. There is a problem with the thought of ""well if it's 'good nationalism' it's alright. It's just as Keynes believed if the right person were in power then government assisted economies should not be a problem. >Hayek isn't some set of chains we need to be wholly restrained by. (Perhaps this wasn't your point.) I really believe most of what he has said is something we should be chained by. But, everything is a trade off. I am willing to remove patriotic pride for the advancement of society while others are ok with slowing down advancements for patriotic purposes or ""safety"" purposes.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1491298380 119444370,119469331,2017-04-04 09:34:31,">>119468560 Libertarian tends to want to evacuate the very notion of violence from their worldview, or at least a certain kind of violence. This is usually the point where their ideology runs into practical difficulties. The only way they can work themselves out of it is by positing that people will not act in such and such a way once they properly understand what their true libertarian interests are, which is eerily similar to the Communist's defense that a new ""communist consciousness"" will arise within the context of socialism. Never the less, there is much of value in libertarianism and in their economic outlook. It's really not the worst ideal I've ever seen.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491298471 119444370,119469758,2017-04-04 09:39:31,">>119469331 We aren't pacifists, I will defend myself. Even preemptively if needed. I just won't fuck with peaceful people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491298771 119444370,119469799,2017-04-04 09:40:03,">>119469213 >I define it as a superiority complex over other nations which his book also uses this type of conception. Ha well that's the problem. There are softer forms of nationalism which aren't about hierarchies (a superiority / inferiority relation) but are rather about identities (sameness / difference relation, compatibility / incompatibility relation). I agree that the notion of the superiority of a culture is somewhat bogus, for the very criterion of that superiority are culture dependent. The proper way, in my view, to conceive of nationalism, is to think of it as the relationship that may exist between families. One family is not like the other, not because it is superior or inferior but simply because it is by nature a distinct entity, as a result of which it possesses a particular history within which certain characteristic are carried forward. Two families, if they are to remain what they are, or at least evolve according to some form of ""natural"" development, cannot be merged with one another, at least not in an artificial way. One family is not superior to the other, nor does one family, on the basis of its identity, has any claim to do something to the other family. There is simply value, for the respective members of each family, in the maintenance of an identity and a sense of belonging which they inherited in their youth. This inheritance is a constitutive part of their very being.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491298803 119444370,119469842,2017-04-04 09:40:39,">>119469022 >not reading ideologies from all over the political compass I was never a communist anyway, I just read a few books as it was being ''hyped'' by everyone around me, which got me into politics anyway. Also, I'm not a Fascist or a National Socialist. But always remember that Communism is against Human Nature, and leaving capitalism unregulated for too long causes it spiral out of control and become extremely subversive, especially in this day and age where we have a desktop with a camera and our own pickets. Remember that big capitalism loves third world immigrants and women in the workforce.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491298839 119444370,119469850,2017-04-04 09:40:44,Is Hoppe liked by /pol/'s libertarians?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491298844 119444370,119470127,2017-04-04 09:43:54,">>119469850 Considering is emphasis on time preference, his disgust of left leaning group politics (where interest groups hijack the government so as to transfer the product of someone else's labor to themselves), his anti-democratic bend, I'd say he's pretty well liked.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491299034 119444370,119470179,2017-04-04 09:44:36,">>119469850 Loved",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME_2_.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1491299076 119444370,119470261,2017-04-04 09:45:30,">>119469850 He's the most realistic at hypotesizing how a libertarian society would actually develop. Hint: not like leftists believe it would.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491299130 119444370,119470469,2017-04-04 09:47:56,">>119469850 As a libertarian, I'd have to study him first. But I'm also currently reading the ideologies of national socialism because a natsoc anon told me there was room for free markets and iirc individualism in Nazi Germany's national socialism. I doubt it, but still reading Mein Kampft where it's detailed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491299276 119444370,119470735,2017-04-04 09:50:56,">>119469799 These identity differences is what lead to a feeling of superiority though. But I understand what you're saying I just don't believe there can be a soft nationalism because it leads to trouble.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1491299456 119444370,119471246,2017-04-04 09:56:46,"Ancap is a meme...you newgags/NEETs aren't fooling anyone, you know this, right?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491299806 119444370,119471420,2017-04-04 09:58:46,">>119470735 >These identity differences is what lead to a feeling of superiority though In the sense that hierarchies have as a precondition the very notion of difference, I must agree. That difference will lead to feeling of superiority is, however, another matter entirely. Right now, both you and I understand ourselves to be different from one another, and yet I trust you do not see yourself as being superior to me, and I can tell you I do not see myself as being superior to you. (You must be one of those unfortunate not so Muslim person living in the KSA.) To try to abolish hierarchies by trying to abolish difference is, I believe, one of the primary characteristic of the current left, who believes that Hierarchies = Oppression and that Differences inevitably lead to hierarchies and modes of exclusion. One the other hand, I believe that the characteristic of all right leaning movement is their unproblematic relationship with some version or another of the concept of self affirmation. Even the libertarian is characterized as a person who recognizes the value of the affirmation of the Self conceived of in and individualistic manner. The individual has an identity and a legitimate right to exclude others from his property and the product of his labor. If hierarchies arises as a result of this affirmation, the libertarian does not have a problem with it. For him, income inequalities are fine as long as they arose according to an individualistic process of free exchange. But the leftist HATES these inequalities, these hierarchies, and cares nothing for the way in which they were created. To him, they are manifestation of modes of oppression.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491299926 119444370,119471685,2017-04-04 10:01:41,">>119469126 >I was implying it not the ONLY thing >The warrior class is very highly regarded,nothing to do with politics Retard",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491300101 119444370,119471971,2017-04-04 10:04:46,">>119471246 NEETs would be fools to embrace capitalism. That's for you NEETsoc folks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491300286 119444370,119473157,2017-04-04 10:18:10,Bump,,Anonymous,AncapBall.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1491301090 119444370,119475902,2017-04-04 10:46:37,">>119471685 jesus christ",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491302797 119507227,119507227,2017-04-04 15:46:36,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/LRG/ Libertarian right general,Saya,1200px-Gadsden_flag.svg.png,bWPkgADB8BCeOFKtfTzI0Q==,FR,,1491320796 119507227,119507275,2017-04-04 15:46:58,,,Saya,,,FR,,1491320818 119507227,119507320,2017-04-04 15:47:24,,,Saya,,,FR,,1491320844 119507227,119507371,2017-04-04 15:47:52,,,Saya,,,FR,,1491320872 119507227,119507706,2017-04-04 15:50:45,">>119507227 Markets need regulating.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491321045 119507227,119508178,2017-04-04 15:54:58,">>119507706 ur mom's arse is too unregulated f-a-m lol",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491321298 119507227,119508386,2017-04-04 15:56:33,">>119507706 How much regulating is necessary? If regulation is so awesome, why don't we abolish property altogether and let the government handle everything?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491321393 119507227,119508503,2017-04-04 15:57:33,GUARNATTED REPLIES,,Anonymous,BLACKED.png,FbD80n8yWsGGX+FNU8/IbQ==,GB,,1491321453 119507227,119509586,2017-04-04 16:07:46,">>119507227 bumping with hoppe",,Anonymous,hoppe.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,DE,,1491322066 119507227,119509943,2017-04-04 16:10:59,">>119507227 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1483362472783.jpg,fz1wbXsbiswHI3FVmV8Pdg==,DE,,1491322259 119507227,119510069,2017-04-04 16:12:20,">y-you can't MAKE me feed my children! >y-you can't MAKE me contribute to the general welfare! >y-you can't STOP ME from being a drug addict! Eh, fuck off lolbert kiddies",,Anonymous,....jpg,WojpUkHaMzJRrGXk8sK88Q==,GB,,1491322340 119507227,119510291,2017-04-04 16:14:18,">>119510069 >y-you can't MAKE me feed my children! b-but they can get a job >y-you can't MAKE me contribute to the general welfare! of course not... what contribues general welfare? it's a meme anyway >y-you can't STOP ME from being a drug addict! and can current governments? retard",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491322458 119507227,119510340,2017-04-04 16:14:42,">>119510291 >what contribues *constitutes",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491322482 119507227,119510390,2017-04-04 16:15:17,">>119510069 good, then die off like the parasite you are and stop being a burden >0.02 cents have been deposited into your account",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491322517 119507227,119510411,2017-04-04 16:15:29,">>119510069 No, you can't. But if my kids starve to death, it's a loss to MY family. If I choose to be a drug addict, I am only harming MYSELF. And why should I be forced to contribute to general welfare? That is, by definition, socialism.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1491322529 119507227,119510433,2017-04-04 16:15:40,looks like you ARE OBSESSED WITH COMMUNISTS.,,Anonymous,4n7ta.jpg,+y8XlxFBKuxGKoQDqCB5GQ==,ES,,1491322540 119507227,119510464,2017-04-04 16:15:54,">>119508386 Personally, I think the only regulations on the market should be basic safety regulations any regulations that protect the worker., which we already have. Other than that, I agree, regulation is not necessary at all in the markets and serves as more of a hindrance than an actual benefit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491322554 119507227,119510753,2017-04-04 16:18:32,">>119510069 >you would starve your own children on purpose. Damn that's a really strong argument dude. that has to go on the killer argument list we have so far >You're pedo's >You're mass murderers >You're retarded I don't know how much longer I can hold on to my ideals when the debunking gets this powerful.",,Anonymous,1489333124488.jpg,6cVPFB2l3ups6RzmvyLOYA==,NL,,1491322712 119507227,119510802,2017-04-04 16:19:06,">>119507227 White nationalist Classical libertarianism is the best form of government that I can think of; it lacks the modern kike trappings of current libertarianism, and you don't have to worry about the next leader being a fucking jew or SJW having infiltrated the leadership as presidents only last for 4-8 years as compared to a lifetime Rights such as freedom of speech, right to bear arms, freedom to associate are preserved for much longer than they would in a authoritarian society with single leaders that last for possibly more than half a century",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491322746 119507227,119511033,2017-04-04 16:21:11,">>119507227 Has anyone else here taken the ultimate red pill of egoist anarchism? I'm curious.",,Anonymous,1490994989300.jpg,IadeA3Q0lJzF6sC2HoTavg==,US,,1491322871 119507227,119511101,2017-04-04 16:21:48,">>119511033 The fuck is ""egoist"" anarchism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491322908 119507227,119511404,2017-04-04 16:24:32,">>119510069 >y-you can't MAKE me feed my children! if you let your children starve, you would be removed from civilized society >y-you can't MAKE me contribute to the general welfare! yes. that would be theft >y-you can't STOP ME from being a drug addict! if you are taking drugs you are only harming yourself,so no need to stop you",,Anonymous,1490905413624.png,v0xaTHYX88eQb2amKFrEiw==,DE,,1491323072 119507227,119511504,2017-04-04 16:25:23,"I've been debating a bit and they raise the point that market competition only works when people have buying power to vote with their money (so to speak). Of course if there's not enough free jobs, people will be forced to take unfair jobs. How do I refute this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491323123 119507227,119511604,2017-04-04 16:26:12,">>119507227 IN",,Anonymous,SNEK_V1.jpg,shk26OdOyhDKGIhsvGkRww==,US,,1491323172 119507227,119511738,2017-04-04 16:27:28,">>119511101 A /lit/ meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491323248 119507227,119511843,2017-04-04 16:28:27,">>119511101 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egoist_anarchism considering using google, my dude",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491323307 119507227,119512033,2017-04-04 16:30:07,,,Anonymous,1491231110167.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,DE,,1491323407 119507227,119512059,2017-04-04 16:30:20,">>119511404 >if you let your children starve, you would be removed from civilized society >le not-government physical removal man removes everything I don't like :3 People are not going to randomly move to gay property communes you freak. They will live on slums beating, abandoning and sexually abusing children and you will do nothing. >yes. that would be theft It's legal and controlled and there is not much wrong with it. Theft is not bad because it changes whom owns property, but for the distress and unpredictability it causes. >if you are taking drugs you are only harming yourself,so no need to stop you Completely false on both counts. And even if they are only harming themselves, it doesn't follow you shouldn't stop them",,Anonymous,chink.jpg,2aTqPzuKgR9+vZ79dIf1+Q==,GB,,1491323420 119507227,119512096,2017-04-04 16:30:41,,,Anonymous,1491231071539.png,N1a+QThhl0g8UaoaMc+JEw==,DE,,1491323441 119507227,119512460,2017-04-04 16:33:37,I'm still waiting for a plan on how it's feasible to implement your Libertardian ideals.,,Anonymous,1490882739562.jpg,y9FLhb6bqQKbtloVHUfZVg==,IL,,1491323617 119507227,119512538,2017-04-04 16:34:12,">>119512059 Stupid people should be allowed to destroy themselves If we support the weak and stupid, it will only degenerate society further, because their defective genes will live on Natural selection is a great system if you let it work its magic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491323652 119507227,119512601,2017-04-04 16:34:43,Does anyone of you seriously believe the core tenets of your An-Cap mish mash ideology is even slightly implementable?,,Anonymous,1488226487426.jpg,dj0f3NRBfXZRvWiJZp4XmQ==,DE,,1491323683 119507227,119512789,2017-04-04 16:36:22,">>119512059 why would they live in slums? so taking property is ok as long as you declare yourself government? people can still do anything they want to their body, it is their property see >>119512538",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1490798852008.jpg,6RMsZN7g73IIZAC2jZMRcA==,DE,,1491323782 119507227,119513375,2017-04-04 16:41:07,">>119512096 spelling mistake at 3rd paragraph",,Anonymous,5fd8a00ebbde4745b4694fefc933191ad3daf0050a0d4e0c8fc63c1b46139399.jpg,7qQIOFNVVpoNjeKmyBREPg==,DE,,1491324067 119507227,119513811,2017-04-04 16:44:41,">>119512538 >>119512789 >indifferent to the suffering of others >s-so it's okay if you call yourself government >b-but it's my body! Lolberts are kiddies",,Anonymous,LOLBERGS.png,6V7gRXu44fn/drv9+t5A4g==,GB,,1491324281 119507227,119516882,2017-04-04 17:10:33,">See this wat do?",,Anonymous,1491152312926.gif,p7f8l4u0IqzW2Ok0v6BxTQ==,GB,,1491325833 119507227,119517404,2017-04-04 17:14:48,">>119516882 Rev up the helicopters",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491326088 119507227,119518440,2017-04-04 17:23:31,">>119513375 >>119512096 heres my corrected version. delete your old shit mates.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,gE8J9/IZBrZF+KKFZ8/fDw==,US,,1491326611 119507227,119519174,2017-04-04 17:29:07,>>119516882,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1482759235925.jpg,kmBlKDkKOHDp1miJ6ciBpg==,DE,,1491326947 119507227,119519497,2017-04-04 17:32:01,"I deleted my post cuz i fucked it up again >>119513375 >>119512096",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1491327121 119507227,119520953,2017-04-04 17:44:08,bumping again soon with a FRESH rothbard pepe.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491327848 119507227,119521130,2017-04-04 17:45:23,"""I need a Pinochet"" song 10/10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o",,Anonymous,Then+we+throw+comies+out+of+helicopters+_fcd0a82a129c23cf089723918244f4dd.jpg,3unqiH+PysAnn9ZlNfeH8A==,ES,,1491327923 119507227,119521343,2017-04-04 17:47:09,">>119507227 Anarcho-capitalism for the win!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491328029 119507227,119522408,2017-04-04 17:55:29,Sometimes I wonder if the recent growth of ancaps is just due to the memes.,,Anonymous,vn3QqKy.jpg,rDJ7o5ua6WFGeRQsuVyK9Q==,US,,1491328529 119507227,119522461,2017-04-04 17:55:58,,,Anonymous,lbBNKRi.png,4GG0Bno9Pxk+A/5C33MzxQ==,US,,1491328558 119507227,119522590,2017-04-04 17:56:56,"I hope pleases you kek, I have enshrined the elder murray rothbard for your altar.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,o40egZ/Kxksv72X7Z7CKQg==,US,,1491328616 119507227,119522643,2017-04-04 17:57:24,,,Anonymous,1490743128376.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1491328644 119507227,119522989,2017-04-04 18:00:07,">>119507706 Any attempt to regulate a market will quickly have companies paying representatives to put their people in the right positions. This means that attempting to regulate an industry will eventually give that company both the power of law and over the taxpayer's money. Once this is established these companies can then create laws to keep competitors out and force people to buy from them, establishing a monopoly without making a better product/service. In the end regulation will give companies far more power than they ever would have had if the government did nothing at the expense of the people. ""Many people want the government to protect the consumer. A much more urgent problem is to protect the consumer from the government."" -Milton Friedman",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491328807 119507227,119523118,2017-04-04 18:01:06,">>119522643 desu, as an ancap, I generally hide my power level.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491328866 119507227,119523147,2017-04-04 18:01:22,,,Anonymous,1489066696967.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1491328882 119507227,119523264,2017-04-04 18:02:26,">>119511033 I ground my ethical thinking in intuitionism, which essentially makes me a spooklord.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491328946 119507227,119523391,2017-04-04 18:03:26,,,Anonymous,1491259062346.png,dme0JYbDUWOnKUIXUEtlnQ==,US,,1491329006 119507227,119523646,2017-04-04 18:05:22,">>119522408 >>119522461 >ancap >state >trademarks I'm not even ancap, but there are memes and there's outright retardation",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491329122 119507227,119523882,2017-04-04 18:07:13,,,Anonymous,1481060602061.png,fmkDlRsYyT03UiWBu819mw==,US,,1491329233 119507227,119523938,2017-04-04 18:07:35,">>119507227 One more thing. The state cannot be logically justified. Pic is from Rothbard.",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-02-28 at 9.45.57 PM.png,lWfsRslRq7MHIaq+lzxcNg==,US,,1491329255 119507227,119523992,2017-04-04 18:07:59,">>119523646 I'm on so many layers of ancap that I private institutions to protect my intellectual property and use my mcnukes on anyone that says otherwise",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491329279 119507227,119524764,2017-04-04 18:14:03,">>119522590 And now I present the Mises Pepe",,Anonymous,Mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,US,,1491329643 119507227,119525101,2017-04-04 18:16:51,">>119524764 quick edit to Rothbard.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,US,,1491329811 119507227,119525812,2017-04-04 18:22:43,,,Anonymous,brb_40_days_in_the_desert.jpg,tqSmGWy0iH1/WTMQZ25KtQ==,ES,,1491330163 119507227,119525971,2017-04-04 18:23:54,">>119523938 >libertarian has no ability to conceive of himself as a part of society with shared goals / objectives Why am I not surprised",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491330234 119507227,119526703,2017-04-04 18:29:38,">>119524764 >>119525101 You are doing kek's work. Now I have Hoppe, Rothbard and Mises, what more could I wish for?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491330578 119507227,119526840,2017-04-04 18:30:31,">>119523646 I'm pretty sure most ancaps will defend trademarks. Copyright will get you mixed responses, and patents are a no.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491330631 119507227,119526866,2017-04-04 18:30:42,>>119507706,,Anonymous,1491256395185.jpg,a7J+zzGxOke7onga0nE0hQ==,GB,,1491330642 119507227,119527039,2017-04-04 18:32:19,">>119525101 I think I recognize your style. If I'm right, you've been making a lot of maymays here. Keep up the good work, anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491330739 119507227,119527265,2017-04-04 18:34:05,A volintarily funded communist genocide?,,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1491330845 119507227,119527544,2017-04-04 18:36:24,">>119511404 The problem with drug addicts is that they don't just harm themselves; in almost all cases, they will steal shit and get violent in the household because of drugs. Contrary to fantasyland libertarians, there ARE externalities to heroin use, which is why heroin should be BANNED.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491330984 119507227,119527585,2017-04-04 18:36:48,">>119527265 for >>119526703 Thanks when there is a need for dank, high quality memes I gladly produce.",,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1491331008 119507227,119528019,2017-04-04 18:40:21,>>119516882,,Anonymous,rev up those helicopters.jpg,x7x4fXEM6znlLTB/TnyNxQ==,US,,1491331221 119507227,119528089,2017-04-04 18:40:55,">>119527265 for >>119526703 >>119527039 Thanks when there is a need for dank, high quality memes I gladly produce.",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1491331255 119507227,119528214,2017-04-04 18:42:04,">>119524764 >>119525101 Best Jewish pepes ever",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491331324 119507227,119528344,2017-04-04 18:43:08,">>119527265 I don't think it needs funding, most people would kill subhuman retards for free >>119528089 >>119527585 Thanks for the posts, and the Hoppepe is my best phone blocked screen in a long time.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491331388 119507227,119528466,2017-04-04 18:44:15,">>119528214 I did not recall that Mises was jewish",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491331455 119507227,119528482,2017-04-04 18:44:25,How long do you think we have until /liberty/ comes back up?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491331465 119507227,119528826,2017-04-04 18:47:19,"Thank you to the anon who fulfilled the request for this picture, you're a big guy.",,Anonymous,nesshissary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,US,,1491331639 119507227,119529219,2017-04-04 18:50:51,,,Anonymous,2323232.png,WgtOR9jRb4blFTmClJrmmQ==,NL,,1491331851 119507227,119529337,2017-04-04 18:51:51,,,Anonymous,1490023970296.jpg,eWoma1HUXvZPBvD8oG9VlA==,NL,,1491331911 119507227,119529675,2017-04-04 18:54:52,,,Anonymous,17201298_254703461654761_3791967514967649314_n.jpg,Q5e7p/1PF7zqNr6fC2t8Dw==,NL,,1491332092 119507227,119529742,2017-04-04 18:55:29,,,Anonymous,1486776437667.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,NL,,1491332129 119507227,119529866,2017-04-04 18:56:24,"Telegram Group Chat http://t.me/libertarianrg Just started! Taking suggestions",,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1491332184 119507227,119529925,2017-04-04 18:56:51,,,Anonymous,1489867419870.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,NL,,1491332211 119507227,119530255,2017-04-04 18:59:40,/cryptolibertarians/ ww@?,,Anonymous,ethereum.png,Q1QScmAwjxHa3DCALfJOuA==,US,,1491332380 119507227,119530518,2017-04-04 19:01:59,"You are in the deep country side and using your telescope, you end up discovering a rogue asteroid that will impact Manhattan in 24 hours. You know that if you can contact the right people, it can be intercepted and safely destroyed. You are unable to use your phone and you are a day's hike to the nearest town. There is a rich old man's house nearby. You activate his intercom at his gate and explain the situation. He says that there is no such thing as positive moral obligations and he weighs the few cents on his phone bill higher than the lives of the city using his subjective value. He doesn't care about any social shaming that might happen, he just wants to be left alone. Do you violate the NAP to break into his house and use his phone to save the city?",,Anonymous,1488491584668.jpg,r/d4MpgsiyB8A64DiC+LwA==,US,,1491332519 119507227,119530810,2017-04-04 19:04:27,"If I beat my son/daughter/wife to discipline them, is that violating the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491332667 119507227,119531297,2017-04-04 19:08:40,">>119530810 >wife Muhammed please...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491332920 119507227,119531421,2017-04-04 19:09:37,">>119526840 No. Private property is necessary and justified as the most optimal and fair method of dealing with scarcity. There's no such thing as scarcity of ideas therefore I can't justify it without trying to be a simple utilitarian minarchist, which I'm not.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491332977 119507227,119531489,2017-04-04 19:10:11,">>119531297 >he doesn't beat his wife Women actually love to be beaten by their husbands.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491333011 119507227,119531899,2017-04-04 19:13:45,">>119531489 Well I guess if they love it then that changes everything... Anyway, to answer your question, as marriage would be privatised (like everything because no public sector) and each contract would be different it would not be acceptable to beat or ""discipline"" your wife unless that was agreed to in the original contract.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491333225 119507227,119532007,2017-04-04 19:14:52,"https://propertarianism.com/2017/04/04/the-problem-isnt-race-its-class/ doolittle>hoppe",,Anonymous,16266080_10154962393947264_6038716331771651702_n.jpg,reS/mlb0Ufr1+/5/g70Xgg==,IE,,1491333292 119507227,119532076,2017-04-04 19:15:31,">>119525971 As long as it's a voluntary society and I'm not threatened by jail time if I don't pay for countless wars and horrific welfare programs, I'd happily see myself as part of that society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491333331 119507227,119532172,2017-04-04 19:16:29,">>119507706 explain your cuckoldry",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491333389 119507227,119532215,2017-04-04 19:16:49,"So is ""pure"" Anarcho-Capitalism possible or is it just what we should be working towards in terms of liberty? Obviously the state infringes on liberty, but won't the very lowest workers be exploited?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491333409 119507227,119532228,2017-04-04 19:16:56,">>119532007 >violence built civilisation so its back to violent nigger statism, fucking morons",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491333416 119507227,119532438,2017-04-04 19:18:43,">>119510069 >Look I made a well established political philosophy look dumb by pretending to be Libertarian and doing obviously bad things. How will life continue now?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491333523 119507227,119532477,2017-04-04 19:19:07,">>119532215 >but won't the very lowest workers be exploited? meme opinion, get out of here with that shit Also yes it is possible, we'll probably never get close for a long time but I think absolute privatisation of everything is inevitable.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491333547 119507227,119532747,2017-04-04 19:21:15,">>119532477 I'm aware it's a meme opinion and I'm trying to figure out why.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491333675 119507227,119532863,2017-04-04 19:22:10,">>119532747 because it's fucking wrong",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491333730 119507227,119533143,2017-04-04 19:24:14,"Y'all need to read Kropotkin. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread",,Anonymous,vOo1QXj.jpg,Pxc0lf4ByVT57OkoFJD9Rg==,GB,,1491333854 119507227,119533196,2017-04-04 19:24:36,">>119532863 doesn't mean shit unless you explain why or at least point me in the direction where i can learn why",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491333876 119507227,119533398,2017-04-04 19:26:09,">>119532215 exploitation implies force or involuntarism. this is not legal in a free society, let alone will the system encourage it. how would the lower class be exploited? because right now with welfare and the minimum wage we are exploiting the lower class already.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491333969 119507227,119533624,2017-04-04 19:27:55,">>119512096 this is kind of stupid desu. Hierarchies of wealth are a natural product of free trade. I hope you realise this means that Muslims and Black people and all the races that /pol/ doesn't like will have just as much chance of being wealthier and more powerful than you in a true Libertarian society.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491334075 119507227,119533828,2017-04-04 19:29:30,">>119531421 1) You're jumping an is/ought. The concept of scarcity doesn't justify property, rather property provides a solution (not the only one) to the problem of scarcity. This says nothing about the validity of property. 2) Obviously, it wouldn't make sense for me to own an idea; that is ridiculous and crankish. However, copyright-like system could potentially arise through a series of contracts, where the author retains a right to copy use (a facet of exclusive.) A copy of a copy being identical to a copy, all subsequent copies should partially belong to the author.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491334170 119507227,119533924,2017-04-04 19:30:20,">>119530518 No. Next question.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491334220 119507227,119533934,2017-04-04 19:30:26,">>119533624 >sub 90 iq people in low trust, authoritarian family centred societies will have as much chance of being wealthier not going to happen",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1491334226 119507227,119534082,2017-04-04 19:31:35,">>119533196 Well it does mean shit because the issue has been debated to death and commie agitators still tout the same bullshit, I shouldn't have to explain this over and over and over again. Very quickly though, because I'm tired and want to go to sleep, the idea that any kind of voluntary trade (yes wages for labour is a trade) is exploitation is impossible. They have every choice to go do something else or not work and die.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491334295 119507227,119534254,2017-04-04 19:32:53,">>119533196 How do governments help workers? Price fixing doesn't work. Regulations on the labour market make investing in labour more risky than it should be from the standpoint of the employer therefore they'll be less prepared to pay as much as on a free market. Shouldn't the workers benefit more from increased competition in employers? The only way I see governments helping workers is by stealing from the more successful. And even that would reduce incentives for investments which would end up hurting workers to some degree as well.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491334373 119507227,119534263,2017-04-04 19:32:58,">>119507227 My main grievance with the libertarian right is that there is much more potential in a government that unifies people rather than one where everyone only cares for themselves Humans are cooperative animals not individualists.",,Anonymous,you are weak nigger. i hope your mom die.png,ry2wrhYHHPVXOEpC5gSd2w==,US,,1491334378 119507227,119534389,2017-04-04 19:33:49,">>119530518 NAP is not an absolute imperative. But the brunt of the libertarian argument is that it is what is unethical for individual action is unethical for state action.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491334429 119507227,119534564,2017-04-04 19:35:16,">>119534263 The state is not an entity of unification; it's an entity of subversion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491334516 119507227,119534605,2017-04-04 19:35:39,">>119534254 >>119534082 >>119533398 i don't mean to be a commie retard so thanks for spoonfeeding me here's a meme",,Anonymous,1464903750098.png,GuUqkJJQ+zc1AyGKS69KTw==,GB,,1491334539 119507227,119535037,2017-04-04 19:39:19,">>119533196 Business exist to generate worth and wealth for all who have a stake in the business. If you voluntarily enter into a contract with an employer which states you work X hours for X money, that's not exploitation. That's voluntary trade. Now, a better argument could be made that unskilled civilians are forced into certain contracts that fuck them over, in order to buy food and housing, so that the company can cut costs. I would argue that this is not the fault of capitalism, this is the fault of shitty, shitty shit Government education and training programs. You must also ask yourself WHY a company would cut costs. A company cuts costs not to be mean for no reason - it's usually to keep the business from falling into debt. Raising things like the minimum wage do nothing except drive prices up so businesses can stay afloat.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491334759 119507227,119535113,2017-04-04 19:39:52,">>119534564 According to one of your Saints, a certain state was ok. I would need proof that a majority of states are bad before you can make that claim.",,Anonymous,quote-it-cannot-be-denied-that-fascism-and-similar-movements-aiming-at-the-establishment-of-ludwig-von-mises-69-39-11.jpg,9QvQLBMFSKthD8aRYgjvvw==,US,,1491334792 119507227,119535403,2017-04-04 19:42:13,Libertarianism > Every other form of conservatism,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491334933 119507227,119535434,2017-04-04 19:42:28,">>119533934 you have enough faith in pseudoscience and fascist myths to think that Libertarianism should only benefit certain ethnicities? The beauty of an ancap society is that I don't have to care about you or your IQ.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491334948 119507227,119535796,2017-04-04 19:45:13,">>119530518 >you're a commie and your neighbour offers to trade food and goods in exchange for you to mow their lawn Do you act like the Lord of all Cuckolds and call the secret police to drag your neighbour to a gulag for trying to exploit your labour?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491335113 119507227,119535838,2017-04-04 19:45:32,">>119535113 I believe that there could be a ""good state"" however the majority of western states seem to be killing off their majority demographic, as well as not western states doing all kinds of fucked up shit. if a dictator has my intrests in mind ill support him. but were short on good dictators. only communist run democracies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491335132 119507227,119535879,2017-04-04 19:45:50,">>119535113 >But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift. To view it as something more would be a fatal error.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491335150 119507227,119536014,2017-04-04 19:47:03,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491335223 119507227,119536296,2017-04-04 19:49:24,">>119535113 States are only okay if they prevent a far greater evil from taking root. Communism might be such an evil. But if we need a government, it should only perform ""bare bones"" functions of maintaining law and order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491335364 119507227,119536577,2017-04-04 19:51:53,">>119535113 A state is bad because it uses it's authority to perform actions that would otherwise be totally ethically wrong. I can't go around and kidnap people because they don't contribute to my charity fund, or refuse to fight my battles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491335513 119507227,119536743,2017-04-04 19:53:19,">>119524764 >>119525101 YOU ACTUALLY FUCKING DID IT ABSOLUTE MADMAN",,Anonymous,mfw i have no face.gif,nuHyCmHofQnTPqeScHhhAg==,PT,,1491335599 119507227,119536787,2017-04-04 19:53:41,">>119535434 >pseudoscience >iq It's the single best measure of intelligence we have today and a strong predictor of life and career success. >I don't have to care about you or your iq Yes you do. Lower iq people generally demonstrate more immoral behaviour, and because the non-aggression doesn't account for fraud, fraud by omission, people spreading pseudoscience and anyone doing harm to the commons that effect in a lower iq society is amplified by 10x. It would happen in any society but profoundly more so in one that's already low iq and low trust Rothbardian ethics are laughable and produce ghettos, nobody in history but gypsies and jewish borderland peoples have practiced them",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1491335621 119507227,119536840,2017-04-04 19:54:09,">>119513811 Helping those who cannot help themselves is just delaying the inevitable. You are just causing them more suffering down the line.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491335649 119507227,119537168,2017-04-04 19:56:50,">>119536743 of course, How could I decline Portubros request?",,Anonymous,Hans_Hermann_Hoppe_memeing.jpg,WnHhljWcIZhgLq63GqR1SQ==,US,,1491335810 119507227,119537298,2017-04-04 19:57:48,">>119537168 I love you so much right now. BRB with the pic I have in mind",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1491335868 119507227,119537427,2017-04-04 19:58:46,">>119537168 oh shit wait, but I need them to have their torsos intact (like the Hoppe one where you see his arms and stuff). I want to put them side by side in a trilogy of Ansnekistan",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491335926 119507227,119537431,2017-04-04 19:58:48,">>119536787 *non-aggression principle",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1491335928 119507227,119537668,2017-04-04 20:00:59,">>119537427 Ok, i'll do it up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491336059 119507227,119537734,2017-04-04 20:01:27,">>119537668 Based Burgerbro. You're doing Our Lord's work my man.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491336087 119507227,119537972,2017-04-04 20:03:33,">>119537431 You think fraud doesn't get punished in an ancap society?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491336213 119507227,119538164,2017-04-04 20:05:13,you're all babies.,,Anonymous,c6303cee7ed3d1199238516589fa355739a20140a15a06237dc5c683a762479f.jpg,2jj0lrxkhaLkAJqfd7KTlw==,CA,,1491336313 119507227,119540115,2017-04-04 20:23:33,">>119537668 Oh, and post them with transparent background pls",,Anonymous,hoppewave 2.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,PT,,1491337413 119507227,119540781,2017-04-04 20:29:38,"And we're gaining notoriety boys! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1491337778 119507227,119541846,2017-04-04 20:39:46,Bump,,Anonymous,"Photo Apr 03, 8 52 08 PM.png",6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1491338386 119507227,119541889,2017-04-04 20:40:14,">>119540781 Holy shit he's using our oc too! fuck yeah!",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1491338414 119507227,119542148,2017-04-04 20:42:30,">>119541889 Yeah, I'm sure he posts here too! Fucking awesome: he used the Hoppewave songs, the memes (even some new ones I hadn't seen before!) and was very clear in his reasoning and explanation in Hoppe's thinking. If the guy who made this video sees this, thumbs up bro. We should add this video to the OP. And perhaps spread it in r/libertarian to trigger the cucks?",,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1491338550 119507227,119542343,2017-04-04 20:44:23,">>119542148 yes. much hype. shill this all over.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491338663 119507227,119544361,2017-04-04 21:03:52,">>119542148 Can you post the ""I must loot"" original video with the song? I saw it once and lost it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491339832 119507227,119544477,2017-04-04 21:05:07,">>119544361 it's in the OP but here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491339907 119507227,119544909,2017-04-04 21:09:07,">>119544477 Oh for some reason I thought there was a music video to go along with that song, maybe I dreamed it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491340147 119507227,119545175,2017-04-04 21:11:36,">>119544909 >my OC makes people dream kek",,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,YFidbdxwx5ajR3h2gOA+0A==,PT,,1491340296 119507227,119545287,2017-04-04 21:12:46,">>119545175 Holy shit you made that? Awesome, love your work senpai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491340366 119507227,119545889,2017-04-04 21:18:58,">>119545287 thanks senpai",,Anonymous,smug hoppe.png,1wPaBRZcBLAdtLRnqap+ng==,PT,,1491340738 119507227,119546265,2017-04-04 21:22:25,">>119512059 >beating, abandoning and sexually abusing children and you will do nothing then, you'd let NAP be breached which would amount to complicity of those things any primo aggression can, and should, be fought by any libertarian worthy of this name of course, that doesn't include imaginary crimes without victims",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491340945 119507227,119547134,2017-04-04 21:30:46,"Some recent beautiful physical removal in Washington state: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioH7s9ftzEg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491341446 119507227,119548472,2017-04-04 21:43:24,">>119545889 just stretched him out a bit, next one in a few minutes",,Anonymous,Mises2.png,sfBmzQoqMQZ3jjv9l2gwFA==,US,,1491342204 119507227,119548969,2017-04-04 21:47:27,">>119548472 thank you very much, so glad you're still here.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491342447 119507227,119549804,2017-04-04 21:54:29,">>119548969 No problem sorry i took so long i was fucking around wth somthing else.",,Anonymous,Rothbard2.png,94+p+lp9r6D75wsCfwqEfw==,US,,1491342869 119507227,119551243,2017-04-04 22:05:27,">>119549804 And here it is, The AnCap Squad",,Anonymous,ancap squad_00000.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1491343527 119507227,119551423,2017-04-04 22:07:06,">>119507227 How do I argue with someone deeply entrenched in marxist ideology when I don't own a helicopter?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491343626 119507227,119552028,2017-04-04 22:12:33,">>119551243 badass. Physical Removal Squad. Peace out brother. >>119551423 just be better than them and laugh at them. its not hard to do.",,Anonymous,AncapBall.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1491343953 119507227,119552251,2017-04-04 22:14:46,">>119510753 Lold",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491344086 119507227,119554804,2017-04-04 22:36:59,">>119551243 Beautiful",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491345419 119507227,119554953,2017-04-04 22:38:22,">>119551423 You don't argue. You use every legal means you have to physically remove them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491345502 119588002,119588002,2017-04-05 05:19:05,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - KILL A COMMIE FOR MOMMY EDITION,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1491369545 119588002,119588044,2017-04-05 05:19:48,,,Anonymous,Flag.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,US,,1491369588 119588002,119588062,2017-04-05 05:20:09,,,Anonymous,HOPPE-Recovered.png,1wPaBRZcBLAdtLRnqap+ng==,US,,1491369609 119588002,119588091,2017-04-05 05:20:34,"In order to understand why Laissez Faire will never work, you only have to meet the average person The lower class is just too stupid for it to work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491369634 119588002,119588100,2017-04-05 05:20:37,,,Anonymous,Rothbard2.png,94+p+lp9r6D75wsCfwqEfw==,US,,1491369637 119588002,119588271,2017-04-05 05:23:00,">>119588091 It worked throughout the ages in different cultures. Pre-1920 USA. Cossacks and Northern Settlers in Russia. Settlers in Australia. It might work again.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491369780 119588002,119588447,2017-04-05 05:25:34,">>119588091 unless they're too stupid to work or even consume I don't think there will be an issue.",,Anonymous,Pepe.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1491369934 119588002,119588542,2017-04-05 05:27:14,"This is in the OP but I wanted to highlight it, Some goy used some content made around here for this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",,Anonymous,1490023993595.png,xWbOH+078M65hA7wPGUoXQ==,US,,1491370034 119588002,119589159,2017-04-05 05:36:19,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1491370579 119588002,119589691,2017-04-05 05:44:02,">>119588542 good, it means we're doing well these threads are for outreach",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491371042 119588002,119590273,2017-04-05 05:52:21,>>119589691,,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1491371541 119588002,119590465,2017-04-05 05:54:56,"https://propertarianism.com/2015/07/31/a-list-of-hans-hermann-hoppes-errors/ Hoppes errors:",,Anonymous,"41S-XP2cq2L._SX309_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",54kM1A0wi0xBYkIQx+GI2A==,IE,,1491371696 119588002,119590530,2017-04-05 05:55:54,"Lee Kuan Yew is our new lord and saviour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVmyrVAkM9s",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491371754 119588002,119590827,2017-04-05 06:00:01,">>119590530 the madman. lock those commies up.",,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1491372001 119588002,119590845,2017-04-05 06:00:23,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1491372023 119588002,119591009,2017-04-05 06:02:39,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-btRzxJvYOc,,Anonymous,death_2_commies.jpg,LHMPszAi3jMC5DHpxhJwfw==,ES,,1491372159 119588002,119591441,2017-04-05 06:08:40,">>119590827 The confusion here is we don't support state enforced borders, so we aren't for open borders so much as there would be no government to enforce arbitrary borders somewhere. Private individuals can obviously refuse entry onto their property, there can't possible be a single libertarian who disagrees with this, even the dudeweed Aleppo Johnson types. I'm probably just preaching to the choir here though, for some reason all the commies only come here in the evening, it's like they're all jobless NEETs who sleep in all day or something. pic unrelated, some oc from Portugal anon I liked",,Anonymous,1491357927577.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,GB,,1491372520 119588002,119591934,2017-04-05 06:15:49,">>119591441 The problem is cucky libertarianians trying to convert lefties to libertarianism. So they package our ideas in a faggy way making us look like a faggy bunch. Then those lefties go on to preach ""libertarianism"" as they were taught. >I'm socially liberal fiscally conservative >open up the borders, maaaaan >Bake the cake dude. we love fags! I say fuck the left. they can only hurt our movement by perverting it for their degenerate commie causes. Recruit from the right instead.",,Anonymous,No_Roads.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1491372949 119588002,119591960,2017-04-05 06:16:10,">>119591441 Seems like most people can't even lay down what would happen if everything was private property, how the market would react, what would be offered, what would succeed. Once you've done that mental exercise, is easy to see how current borders would pale in comparison to the control and vetting we're proposing, and also in a way more sustainable method.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491372970 119588002,119592441,2017-04-05 06:23:18,"I'm writing a paper on media bias/propagandising and was hoping to include an explanation of what the GOPe and MSM did to Ron Paul in 2012. However, I wasn't a /pol/ regular or particularly politically active at the time, and there very very few mainstream records of it, for obvious reasons. Can you help out with a basic gestalt of who did what and how and point me towards some sources (preferably either raw footage or ""respectable"" news outlets) I can cite?",,Anonymous,IT'S HAPPENING!.gif,KFAYbegPKPAte4/DB+13dA==,GB,,1491373398 119588002,119592533,2017-04-05 06:24:22,">>119588002 Can someone provide me a pdf of Road to Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491373462 119588002,119592697,2017-04-05 06:26:49,">>119592441 This should help anon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_WBo4sfmi4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491373609 119588002,119592775,2017-04-05 06:27:51,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491373671 119588002,119592830,2017-04-05 06:28:37,">>119592533 http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/upldbook351pdf.pdf",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491373717 119588002,119593044,2017-04-05 06:31:51,">>119592775 >>119592830 Thanks muh dudes.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491373911 119588002,119593050,2017-04-05 06:31:56,,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1491373916 119588002,119593110,2017-04-05 06:32:44,">>119592533 >he doesn't have the book Everyone should, it's great to refer back to, like a textbook at times, not a 'novel' to read once.",,Anonymous,IMG_20170405_112937.jpg,/o720KgXBgHpKTirxbUukw==,GB,,1491373964 119588002,119593195,2017-04-05 06:33:51,">>119593110 fucking dope.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491374031 119588002,119593351,2017-04-05 06:36:10,">>119593110 It is worth to get the entire 270 pages one or is the condensed version fine?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491374170 119588002,119593685,2017-04-05 06:40:42,">>119593351 Fuck i'm high, don't know what I'm talking about.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491374442 119588002,119593878,2017-04-05 06:44:10,">>119593685 Lol austrailia, you do ur thing. stay classy.",,Anonymous,snek (10).png,aXlAl2u5gEzAo6UIS0BxZg==,US,,1491374650 119588002,119593950,2017-04-05 06:45:03,">>119593685 Lel, I'm not aware of different versions, or the nuances associated with them. This (I assume full) version has excellent snippets from other literature too which may not be the case in other versions. Pic related is Mannheim (1940). Again, for me it's not a novel, don't do it all in one sit, jump in, jump out, think about the points made, annotate the book, and so on.",,Anonymous,IMG_20170405_114104.jpg,/XBZBmwyLcKDHOrTInEvBA==,GB,,1491374703 119588002,119593972,2017-04-05 06:45:22,">>119593351 >>119593685 If you're going to get a copy might as well get the most in depth one available, but I can only find the condensed version online",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491374722 119588002,119594740,2017-04-05 06:56:21,Bump.,,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1491375381 119588002,119594794,2017-04-05 06:57:07,">>119592697 sad!",,Anonymous,14309705_641893235988372_1968007306981408768_n.jpg,PThS7EoBtD9jB6EItFI9lA==,ES,,1491375427 119588002,119595765,2017-04-05 07:11:25,,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,US,,1491376285 119588002,119595833,2017-04-05 07:12:30,"based singapore PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN4SuSXqnLA",,Anonymous,15624545_1847952738814753_8520524991328944128_n.jpg,eyQgyngnrHav6EZGP2Xe5Q==,ES,,1491376350 119588002,119596070,2017-04-05 07:15:41,">>119588002 i am commie but i miss these threads so much continue making them",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1491376541 119588002,119596221,2017-04-05 07:17:41,">>119596070 I'm sorry to hear that, please reconsider your commie ways.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491376661 119588002,119597002,2017-04-05 07:28:32,">>119592441 >>119592697 >>119594794 Thanks, that's a good start. How compelling is the evidence for electoral fraud? Are there enough credible sources that I can straightforwardly describe it as having happened, with appropriate references to justify it, or is the most I could hope to get away with just noting that serious allegations exist? Also, I understand there was some jewing that went on on the RNC floor, is that right? If so, can I get more info?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491377312 119588002,119597891,2017-04-05 07:40:51,"Love Capitalist freedom. The free market should choose how people should live, and be very subversive on the trands and the way people should live. My Corporate Empire is willing to let in 20,000,000 unemployed Nigerian Muslims to work for my company for cheap labour. My billionaire buddy, ''Dr'' Grabblesden is going to promote masses of feminist propaganda on his TV Network so masses and masses of women work for me too.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491378051 119588002,119598180,2017-04-05 07:45:16,">>119588100 Ayy, anon delivered. REPORTING IN FOR POST-COMMIE EUROPE",,Anonymous,nes-hiss-ary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,SK,,1491378316 119588002,119598562,2017-04-05 07:50:49,">>119598180 I always deliver. I might take forever tho.",,Anonymous,eJwNy8sNwyAMANBdGADzK_Bs4xJEqEhA4Jyq7t6c3ul9xT2b2MTBPNYGsNeV_tzl4j6pZFl6Ly3TqEumfgIxUzrOfPECEzzaF4ZoPUatnDVgoke0qK0zQakHB3RxfeabWtPyM4r4_QG9HSSO.jpg,vQ1A/B+fqqWOULD80fPvDA==,US,,1491378649 119588002,119598864,2017-04-05 07:54:53,">>119596070 >commie You literally grew up next to the Iron Curtain, or your parents did. A man literally used a motorised hang glider to escape from Czechoslovakia and he was chased by fighter jets. Or have you never heard of the people torn apart by their own border police's dogs?",,Anonymous,communism wall.png,SH3ikeDGIAFfnwhZXQ5Vug==,SK,,1491378893 119588002,119598947,2017-04-05 07:56:11,">>119597891 Sounds exotic. As an American importing genuine Nigerians might get pricy. We'd probably use Mexicans instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491378971 119588002,119598960,2017-04-05 07:56:20,">>119598562 You're doing God's work.",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1491378980 119588002,119599035,2017-04-05 07:57:31,">>119597891 >importing 20mil niggers Enjoy white flight and economic suicide.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491379051 119588002,119599232,2017-04-05 08:00:06,">>119599035 Like modern day America?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491379206 119588002,119599379,2017-04-05 08:02:08,">>119598562 what's the plan tho other than take more responsible financial choices for his personal life due to understanding real economics, an ancap doesn't have other advantages, if you can call an advantage not sinking when everyone else does when you're no longer in the old scenario",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491379328 119588002,119599456,2017-04-05 08:03:01,">>119599232 Yes.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491379381 119588002,119599590,2017-04-05 08:04:55,">>119599456 Yes, Brazil 2.0 in 20 years.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491379495 119588002,119599600,2017-04-05 08:05:05,">>119597891 >no minimum wage >instead of getting cheap labour from dumb white people you decide to spend thousands of dollars to import spics and niggers and pay for their housing because they can't do it themselves and pay for their food because they can't do it themselves because apparently it's cheaper Any argument about immigrants destroying libertarian societies is always based on thinking that they get welfare. Whatever CEO wants to import 'cheap labour' will have to pay for all of their expenses otherwise they die in a week",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491379505 119588002,119599815,2017-04-05 08:08:11,">>119599590 It's funny that Europeans and Americans say this as hyperbole If you don't take the left out of your governments, universities, courts and media, you WILL become the third world",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491379691 119588002,119600625,2017-04-05 08:19:39,,,Anonymous,wpid_hoppe_democracy.jpeg.jpg,DVg//D9V0jEWuGe/oSBYKg==,US,,1491380379 119588002,119601540,2017-04-05 08:31:15,,,Anonymous,ancapepe.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1491381075 119588002,119602557,2017-04-05 08:43:33,,,Anonymous,hsm__101_.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1491381813 119588002,119603082,2017-04-05 08:50:14,Should we use (((trips))) to identify each other?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491382214 119588002,119603189,2017-04-05 08:51:33,">>119597002 It's everywhere anon. Just duckduckgo it. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/06/23/romney-campaign-ousts-ron-paul-delegates/3xYwhZ5kbZuRMyMBlXy6EK/story.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491382293 119588002,119603778,2017-04-05 08:58:49,">>119603082 Kek how do I even. I'm phone posting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491382729 119588002,119604030,2017-04-05 09:02:13,,,Anonymous,2323232.png,WgtOR9jRb4blFTmClJrmmQ==,NL,,1491382933 119588002,119604153,2017-04-05 09:03:57,A hero. Cheers m8.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491383037 119588002,119604723,2017-04-05 09:11:22,,,Anonymous,28dbb72f776fd9278bef377bd8937e41.jpg,YHoaJ4KjeviXRioBAC8agw==,NL,,1491383482 119588002,119604873,2017-04-05 09:13:15,,,Anonymous,1486768386433.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,NL,,1491383595 119588002,119604993,2017-04-05 09:14:50,">>119604030 >>119604873 >>119604723",,Anonymous,1478982529006.jpg,c+4ZxcHTgh6EFEH7aA5T0A==,NL,,1491383690 119588002,119605142,2017-04-05 09:16:43,">>119604993 What the fuck wrong with those weirdo's faces?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491383803 119588002,119605164,2017-04-05 09:16:58,>>119604993,,Anonymous,1487281671210.png,Qwszt9Py2Ku0oZvyZtPPxA==,NL,,1491383818 119588002,119605430,2017-04-05 09:20:06,"Went shooting with my dad this past weekend. Fired a Yugo M70 AK-form rifle, a Sterling, an SVT and our PSL. Was a good outing. Discussed the free market and specifically how many civic nationalists and leftists seem to equate ""free market"" with ""pimping grandma"". We here at /lrg/ understand that economy and morality are two separate issues that work in tandem in society, and that a free market doesn't lead to social degradation in any moral society. However, how do we convey this to would-be supporters? We have this argument here a lot, usually about ""but muh child slaves"" and usually with plenty of arguments that a child can somehow enter an agreement to become a sex slave, and that it's the libertarian's fault. What's a compact argument or visual to explain this? I'm not the best with words.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491384006 119588002,119605709,2017-04-05 09:23:51,">>119605142 >dutch",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491384231 119588002,119605941,2017-04-05 09:26:49,>>119604993,,Anonymous,1490022201492.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,NL,,1491384409 119588002,119605999,2017-04-05 09:27:35,>>119593050,,Anonymous,cultists of nurgle.jpg,CHI0RTxoGOCD8FYAgJoHoA==,US,,1491384455 119588002,119606064,2017-04-05 09:28:21,>>119605941,,Anonymous,1473210749543.png,ZsuPsKsOdylJdezmrAPx8Q==,NL,,1491384501 119588002,119606517,2017-04-05 09:33:47,">>119599815 >le leftsists meme Capitalism wanted women in the workforce. Capitalism wants shitskins. Capitalism doesn't care about the peoples needs, and unregulated Capitalism spirals out of control. Communism is retarded and is against the way humans are.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491384827 119588002,119606597,2017-04-05 09:34:30,,,Anonymous,1490022947939.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,NL,,1491384870 119588002,119606696,2017-04-05 09:35:42,,,Anonymous,1490023762547.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,NL,,1491384942 119588002,119607085,2017-04-05 09:40:23,">>119606517 >Capitalism wanted women in the workforce No. Socialists wanted that. Capitalism naturally favours the family structure >Capitalism wants shitskins. Again socialists wanted that because it gives them tremendous political power. It serves the corporatists who are in line with government too and that's not >Capitalism doesn't care about the peoples needs >Voluntary exchange doesn't care about people's needs what a moron",,Anonymous,1484252578220.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,NL,,1491385223 119588002,119607260,2017-04-05 09:42:29,">>119588542 Glad you added that video to the OP it's very good indeed. Seeing that Rothbard pepe in the reading list made me think: perhaps a Mises Reading List too? Or maybe we're already bloating the OP posts already and should reformat it? Anyways nice. >>119591441 Thanks for using my pic senpai.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491385349 119588002,119607415,2017-04-05 09:44:31,">>119592441 Video on YouTube ""How Ron Paul lost to the media in 2012"" or something like that. Also on Wikipedia for the campaign page or in the election page they describe the amount of coverage he was given, which was pale in comparison to the (((other candidates))).",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491385471 119588002,119607490,2017-04-05 09:45:27,">>119607260 >Or maybe we're already bloating the OP posts already and should reformat it? There's so many good resources that it's difficult not to, that said, I do think it's too large. We need a better balance between nicely packaged reading lists in Pastebins and top-level visibility in the OP and follow up posts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491385527 119588002,119607702,2017-04-05 09:47:50,">>119593050 Fuck this guy in particular",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491385670 119588002,119607757,2017-04-05 09:48:27,,,Anonymous,1486768345433.png,ZzQt4mV0UBQStrESUoOc5Q==,NL,,1491385707 119588002,119608228,2017-04-05 09:54:04,">>119605430 I think the arguments that specifically target the child sex slave issue are the main arguments for self ownership and parental rights. Parents have the property rights to the custody of the child until he grows up to say ""I no longer wish to live here nor for you to be my guardians."" That's the point where he is no longer a child but a fully fledged actor with full self ownership. So parents would still have their natural authority over children. We should also point out to statists that the encroachment of the State in society and public life has degraded in many ways the nuclear family (monopolized family Court, monopolized public education, redistribution from parents--""The haves""-- to the underclass and the degenerates--""The have-nots"", meddling with the church and marriage laws, etc.) Finally the main argument would be the time preference argument and how it relates to civilization, the point being that more state and more fiat property leads to decivilization and a lowering of cultural standards and moral absolutism.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491386044 119588002,119608337,2017-04-05 09:55:16,">>119607085 >Capitalism naturally favours the family structure You're right on Marxist Socialists. Capitalism isn't a person btw. Capitalism is a business, market of businessman. Why would a businessman give a toss about ''family structure''? >Again socialists wanted that because it gives them tremendous political power. It serves the corporatists who are in line with government too and that's not Why do you think ''capitalists'' love overseas sweatshops? I mean, if I were a businessman, I wouldn't want my business involved with sweatshops or immigrants for cheap labour. But what's to say that most businessmen are like me? >Capitalism doesn't care about the peoples needs I mean that as in socially. Of course capitalists want a market to appeal to, no shit. Some corporations like to be subversive. You can't trust it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491386116 119588002,119608356,2017-04-05 09:55:28,Why should the red boxes only be considered property? What do we have to gain from disregarding/excluding the others?,,Anonymous,wBPBlln0aZRIP2cOfrHzSpgPmHZAIGJ8BwYpda89IBU.jpg,V6OGLeJ3WICN0UzLar1q3g==,IE,,1491386128 119588002,119608473,2017-04-05 09:56:50,"ANCAP is retarded edgy shit, as is any form of anarchy. there, I said it.",,Anonymous,Orin Flag from the Never Ending Story Gadsden Flag Parody.jpg,MfN1aq0CvhiIGDg1JJp51Q==,US,,1491386210 119588002,119608791,2017-04-05 10:00:43,">>119603082 Well I'm the only Slovak in here.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491386443 119588002,119608898,2017-04-05 10:02:07,">>119608337 I think you should become acquainted with the Austrian School's concept of time preference and how it relates to civilization or decivilization. Also, top kek at you mentioning sweatshops when it is precisely because of the existence of sweatshops that poor Asians build their capital stock of savings in order to build their families and secure the sustenance of future generations. Top fucking kek, indeed.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491386527 119588002,119608927,2017-04-05 10:02:25,">>119606517 Out of (((whose))) control, goy? Which part of the market should rule the others?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491386545 119588002,119609012,2017-04-05 10:03:31,">>119607260 If we wanna keep it minimal we could make the reading list on the sub wiki and link it here and have a massive list there. I'm down for whatever. If you write it up I'll add it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491386611 119588002,119609112,2017-04-05 10:04:33,">119608473 Don't tread on my thread then.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491386673 119588002,119609685,2017-04-05 10:11:01,"Also, as someone who is in favor of the environment, and peoples health & safety on a worksite, I don't see the reason to follow this ideology. I also have no problem paying taxes for a sensible and working Emergency service. I'm pretty sure most other taxpayers would agree. Other than that, this 'Anarchy' would just give people the perfect chance to form cults, gangs, and eventually, nations. Literally 'gangstas' paradise.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491387061 119588002,119609919,2017-04-05 10:13:26,">>119608898 All a business wants, is people to work for them, and if anything, cheap labour. Fuck, I'm pretty sure 90% of them want slaves working for them for free. They really don't give a shit about what gender, skin colour, or family upbringing these people have, as long as they're muscle for their enterprise.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491387206 119588002,119610090,2017-04-05 10:15:12,">>119609685 >>119609919 Having a free market doesn't mean all bets are off. It just means that ethical arguments occur outside of the realm of economics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491387312 119588002,119610426,2017-04-05 10:18:59,">>119588002 >Physically remove",,Anonymous,dcdc707602c1e443574da1a4c067530b.jpg,ImTRIFs4BaXbCqWxkf/GIw==,CL,,1491387539 119588002,119610618,2017-04-05 10:21:10,,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491387670 119588002,119610727,2017-04-05 10:22:27,">>119598562 What ball is this?",,/TEAMLIME/,,,NL,,1491387747 119588002,119610855,2017-04-05 10:23:51,"Also, how come none of you are talking about Susan Rice or the raping of the fourth amendment? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJK3HpdzbVA",,Anonymous,1432239789074.jpg,SC6eIaUa1alAB+/+E8zXHg==,US,,1491387831 119588002,119610858,2017-04-05 10:23:57,">>119610618 Dank, when I can I'll add it in officially.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491387837 119588002,119610929,2017-04-05 10:24:44,How do we keep (((Fascists))) from subverting a minarchist kind of government? I'm afraid they'll resort to thuggery like that have historically to get themselves into power.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491387884 119588002,119610952,2017-04-05 10:25:00,">>119610727 It's from the anticom guys thread. I made the flag and someone memed it so I saved it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491387900 119588002,119611040,2017-04-05 10:25:57,">>119609919 businesses care about the value they get only those businesses that are not sophisticated truly only rely on how efficient is the value they can get from the cost of their labour context when the added value is more sophisticated, things are different as there are a lot more dimensions to it good thing the first category is on its way to be automated",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491387957 119588002,119611113,2017-04-05 10:26:41,">>119609919 Labor is a scarce resource and as a consequence employers will want to offer competitive bonuses and salaries when it comes to job seekers. They may not like it, but that's the beauty of the free market.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491388001 119588002,119611159,2017-04-05 10:27:14,">>119609685 You sue the people polluting the air as it violates the NAP and is spilling over into my property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491388034 119588002,119611531,2017-04-05 10:31:38,>>119610855,,Anonymous,1448314759402.jpg,YKXfkomoQ0S/STehm/NWuA==,US,,1491388298 119588002,119611555,2017-04-05 10:31:51,"Can I suggest putting the core OP stuff into pastebins e.g. Who we are / what we stand for Core books Core articles Core videos THEN we can have thread themes, such as news articles, discussions, and so on. Thoughts?",,Anonymous,1412723089757.jpg,61XwX1fA7vgjPBSspEJ4DQ==,GB,,1491388311 119588002,119611812,2017-04-05 10:34:51,">>119611555 Sounds good if you put stuff together I'll make it official.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491388491 119588002,119611940,2017-04-05 10:36:16,">>119609685 REAL private property is the only realistic way to handle environmental issues, for real Currently you have the states as owners of mostly everything on earth, and you know what, the bureaucracy machinery doesn't give a shit to preserve and growth the value of that land, their incentives are actually aimed to extract value from it private property has the opposite effect, people give a shit about their stuff, to preserve it and improve its value and most importantly to defend it against agresion tell me how environmentally friendly urban planning is, central powers are designing our behaviour and forcing us to use cars more than it would happen otherwise, US is a extraordinary example of this stupidity with your silly residential neightbours outside of any economic activity, which is utterly retarded tell me how many greenfags actually give a shit about this concerns, none, they're too stupid to percieve this issues tell me where's the founder of greenpeace >oh lad he's denying climate BS",,Anonymous,1489711049595.png,ylGct6eT6Bi0TlMi/FPjNg==,ES,,1491388576 119588002,119612187,2017-04-05 10:39:02,">>119611555 >>119611940 A good example is /bet/ from /sp/. Also stopped a lot of newfag questions.",,Anonymous,file.png,x0XnmhNeSBr92jJdB4MUWw==,GB,,1491388742 119588002,119612414,2017-04-05 10:41:36,">>119611555 >>119612187 I agree with you.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491388896 119588002,119612558,2017-04-05 10:43:23,">>119611555 >Core videos not REALLY libertarian, but heres a good summary on John Locke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-buzVjYQvY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZiWZJgJT7I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2LVcu01QEU",,Anonymous,JohnLocke.png,3J4FHy/Ju3YM61zTrT0BUA==,US,,1491389003 119588002,119612573,2017-04-05 10:43:35,">>119611555 I've also been meaning to write a new thread statement. But I wanna keep ""physical removal of communist fags"" in there. It's gotta be edgy, inspired, and dank.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491389015 119588002,119612699,2017-04-05 10:45:12,">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Song Related",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491389112 119588002,119613540,2017-04-05 10:54:21,Also would like to thank whomever is editing HHH's Wikipedia page with more dank memes and info about the mad man.,,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1491389661 119588002,119613702,2017-04-05 10:55:56,"new: /libertarianrg on Telegram",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491389756 119588002,119613848,2017-04-05 10:57:28,">>119610618 >I also think we should remove Milton Friedman from the General since he was not an Austrian and was in fact an apologist of government. He's not in the same tier as Hayek, Hoppe, Rothbard or Mises, and there threads are clearly and unapologetic defenders of Austrian economics. this is why i'm a Libertarian, but not an ancap. ""apologist of government"", fuck off",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1491389848 119588002,119613945,2017-04-05 10:58:30,">>119613848 kek you sure are triggered because of that. But sure, keep Friedman since he's an entryway for normies into the movement.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491389910 119588002,119613946,2017-04-05 10:58:30,">>119613702 >telegram >discord Why do people thread split? It leads to the death of great generals - >>119612187 /bet/ a case in point. Genuine q - what is the upside to telegram?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491389910 119588002,119614949,2017-04-05 11:09:58,"Time to take the next step in your development www.propertarianism.com",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491390598 119588002,119614968,2017-04-05 11:10:10,Bump.,,Anonymous,1489207904510.jpg,/7wXK09zHthUhFUJW10GxQ==,US,,1491390610 119588002,119615599,2017-04-05 11:17:34,">>119614949 quick rundown pls",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491391054 119588002,119617028,2017-04-05 11:33:19,">>119615599 For those of us in the libertarian right movement, The normal path of maturity appears to be >Libertarian (hope) >Anarcho Capitalist (seperatism) >Dark Enlightenment (hopelessness) >Propertarian (taking responsibility) Propertarianism is the reduction of social science, group evolutionary strategy, morality, politics, law, ethics, and cognition, to statements of the voluntary or involuntary transfer of property between consenting individuals. It is an answer to, refutation of, and solution to Cantor’s restoration of mathematical platonism, Marx’s pseudoscientific economics and sociology, Boaz’s pseudoscientific anthropology and sociology, Freud’s pseudoscientific psychology, and the Frankfurt School’s pseudoscientific aesthetics. Its purpose is to end lying in all its elaborate forms within the commons: including the supernatural, pseudo-rational, the pseudo-mathematical, and the pseudoscientific.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491391999 119588002,119617149,2017-04-05 11:34:30,">>119594794 >>119595833 C-cute.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491392070 119588002,119617219,2017-04-05 11:35:00,"https://twitter.com/curtdoolittle/status/840228318775513088 Intedasting",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491392100 119588002,119617345,2017-04-05 11:36:12,">>119617028 Also read this article https://propertarianism.com/2015/01/18/the-cure-for-propaganda-and-western-civilization/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491392172 119588002,119617956,2017-04-05 11:41:41,">>119617028 >>Dark Enlightenment speak for yourself mate. I've never fell into this edgy alt-right shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491392501 119588002,119618655,2017-04-05 11:48:32,">>119613945 spanish libertarians have a meme for those cucks, ""lukewarm socialdemocrat"" there are two major divulgators of austrian economics here, Huerta de Soto and Juan Ramon Rallo, the first one is hardcore ancap, and that's how he joked about the second. ""... es un tibio socialdemócrata"" lol at the pic for those who knows him",,Anonymous,lukewarm socialdemocrat.jpg,AAauAvtm1y008ajZRjqxYw==,ES,,1491392912 119588002,119619387,2017-04-05 11:52:37,">>119618655 Pleasr, we call them ""roadcucks"" here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491393157 119588002,119619609,2017-04-05 11:54:55,">>119617956 the dark enlightenment came into fruition before the alt-right did and has nothing to do with it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491393295 119588002,119619744,2017-04-05 11:56:16,"reminder: alt-right is a phrase invented by leftists and embraced by crypto-leftists to pidgeonhole the resurging right into a nice box of ""wacky out there crazies""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491393376 119588002,119619910,2017-04-05 11:57:46,">>119617028 and how many philosophers/thinkers are there? Curious because I thought Hoppe anarcho-capitalism was (and to me still is) the endgame of political ideology.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491393466 119588002,119620362,2017-04-05 12:02:06,">>119619744 >alt-right is a phrase invented by leftists It was invented by Richard Spencer you dumbass.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491393726 119588002,119620445,2017-04-05 12:02:55,">>119620362 Paul Gottfried actually.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491393775 119588002,119620531,2017-04-05 12:03:42,">>119618655 lmao I love Huerta de Soto. Maybe one day we'll arrange something here for him to visit us.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491393822 119588002,119620670,2017-04-05 12:04:51,">>119620362 Richard Spencer being a crypto leftist...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491393891 119588002,119620752,2017-04-05 12:05:40,">>119620670 He's for single payer healthcare, not even crypto",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491393940 119588002,119620959,2017-04-05 12:07:36,">>119620752 there we go then",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491394056 119588002,119621131,2017-04-05 12:09:20,">>119620670 I was watching him talk about removing all the darkies and getting rid of anti discrimination laws and I was pumped but then he went on a rant about how Americans need to be open to Socialism and I was fucking disgusted, totally killed my boner.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491394160 119588002,119621253,2017-04-05 12:10:30,"Why is Hoppe's Wikipedia page so fucking shitty and biased? Someone needs to do something about this? 30 or 40% of it is about ""controversial"" comments i.e. inconsequential irrelevant bullshit while only about half of it is going into his actual work. At least the introduction should be improved with much more detail about his work on argumentation ethics or his views on monarchy.",,Anonymous,1490011486644.png,9Rwfe5zT85IhzaLnWOz4Bw==,NL,,1491394230 119588002,119621484,2017-04-05 12:12:45,">>119621253 >((Wikipedia)) Wikipedia is really only a good source when they're talking about the hard sciences. It's shit for everything else",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491394365 119588002,119621680,2017-04-05 12:14:50,">>119621484 I know but the thing is, Wikipedia is where normies and pretty much everyone else gets their first basic impression of things. I persist that a cleanup of Hoppe's entry is extremely important. That's the first page they come across when they google him.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491394490 119588002,119621688,2017-04-05 12:14:56,">>119621253 we should ""correct the record"", so to speak. Also I updated the pastebin with Mises. Will organize shit better later today.",,Anonymous,1490140819443.jpg,7g1XBZvSMdm5PbWTSlci0w==,US,,1491394496 119588002,119621917,2017-04-05 12:16:53,">>119621688 Any good sources on his parents/background? From what I've heard from him in passing, there should be a few interesting things to add.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491394613 119588002,119621955,2017-04-05 12:17:09,">>119621253 >>119621688 Can you guys do it?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491394629 119588002,119621993,2017-04-05 12:17:33,">>119611940 This is completely retarded and proof that you have NO expericnce with this world at all. I work for an oil company and you wont believe the shit they do. They literally have a secret pipe that runs INTO the fucking river and just dumps excess oil into it. Not only that, but oil from leaking machines leakes all over into the ground, and when it rains, that shit spreads to all nearby places as well, including other peoples private property. They even talk about how much easier this shit would be without government regulations because its infinatly cheaper to just dumb this shit rather than going through all the environmental regulations. If the tank farm was near any sort of agricultural region, it would completely ruin the farm land forever and we have even had farmers bitch about this is in the past, though not our company obviously. This doesnt even consider worker safety. H2S for example is a very real danger, and workers have to wear a monitor for it so they can at least run away from a leak. But we always get ships full of Filipino workers who have NO safety equipment and get exposed to that shit all the time. Why do you think China is a dystopian hell hole of smog and poution? Why do you think sweat shops exist in the first place? Because those places have no regulations at all and businesses know they can save money when you get slaves instead of paid employees with human rights",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491394653 119588002,119622008,2017-04-05 12:17:38,">>119621253 Wikikepedia is never to be trusted",,Anonymous,1459665236469.png,Hv0tl5uSBNidYlejyQi9gw==,GB,,1491394658 119588002,119622168,2017-04-05 12:19:03,">>119588100 I thought The Case for 100% Gold Dollar was pretty interesting and relatively easy to swallow but maybe not the most important material",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491394743 119588002,119622210,2017-04-05 12:19:30,">>119621917 https://mises.org/library/private-property-order-interview-hans-hermann-hoppe http://www.mises.org.br/Article.aspx?id=1325 http://www.hanshoppe.com/2011/09/property-freedom-and-society-jeff-tucker-interviews-hans-hermann-hoppe/ http://www.thedailybell.com/exclusive-interviews/anthony-wile-dr-hans-hermann-hoppe-on-the-impracticality-of-one-world-government-and-the-failure-of-western-style-democracy/ some interviews that have good stuff to be used to explain his reasoning and background.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491394770 119588002,119622247,2017-04-05 12:19:45,">>119621955 Sure, how could we sneak some top teir subltle memes in there? just add a couple, so to speaks >>119621917 not a clue, there's no proper biography as far as i know of.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491394785 119588002,119622303,2017-04-05 12:20:14,">>119621993 Wouldn't happen if the river was privatised. Because then people would have to be held accountable. They would have to pay the private owner to pollute.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491394814 119588002,119622333,2017-04-05 12:20:28,">>119621993 >They literally have a secret pipe that runs INTO the fucking river and just dumps excess oil into it. Have you no moral compass? Or a total disdain for local communities and local culture? Anonymously leak this information to the media.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491394828 119588002,119622561,2017-04-05 12:22:37,Physical removal lolololol XDXDXD right guys. The peoples evolution of class warfare will come soon comrades.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491394957 119588002,119622580,2017-04-05 12:22:47,"> As for websites, I go most regularly to mises.org and to lewrockwell.com. As for other sites: I have been called an extremist, a reactionary, a revisionist, an elitist, a supremacist, a racist, a homophobe, an anti-Semite, a right-winger, a theocrat, a godless cynic, a fascist and, of course, a must for every German, a Nazi. So, it should be expected that I have a foible for politically ""incorrect"" sites that every ""modern,"" ""decent,"" ""civilized,"" ""tolerant,"" and ""enlightened"" man is supposed to ignore and avoid. What if HHH lurks here kek?",,Anonymous,5247235648_511c4cf280_o-L.jpg,TwWynBc/LQ/l9oUHUaPSWQ==,PT,,1491394967 119588002,119622793,2017-04-05 12:24:37,">>119622580 wheredya get that quote?",,Anonymous,So to speak..png,JoeDj7IkmnCa9HgSN47dOw==,US,,1491395077 119588002,119622801,2017-04-05 12:24:41,">>119622333 >Have you no moral compass? Or a total disdain for local communities and local culture? This is what you ancap shills want though. >>119622303 Anon, they already own the land and let oil spill all over it. the only reason they dont want it to drip is because of course its a los of profit to just dump oil into the ground, Im not trying to say they are cartoon villians because thats just retarded, but they have NO concern about the environment at all, so this idea that they will care for it is bullshit. What do they care about the river other than that its just a way for boats to sail over there and to put oil into or from? You guys have no fucking clue what you are talking about when you say we need to do away with ALL regulations at all, especially when it comes to oil companies+the environment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491395081 119588002,119622877,2017-04-05 12:25:22,">>119621993 retard, that happens on a socialdemocrat-statist framework, not one where it's foundation is just the NAP and private regulations. These things would be HUNTED down in an ancap framework, and not metaphoricaly, but by incentives. Being untruthful or parasitic nowadays brings benefits while being truthful and productive only atracts damage, moral and economical. This is the result of how distorted this shitty civilization has turned out. I'm repeating it again, whoever is affected by your shitty company is defenceless against it. That's the opposite on an ancap framework as it's literally an absolute fair moral scenario, not an utopy where conflicts does not exist, but a real solution to handle any kind of conflict with iron fist, fairnes and reparation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o",,Anonymous,1485335137800.png,f3CVF7R7h6uAaprf2ry5rw==,ES,,1491395122 119588002,119623063,2017-04-05 12:27:00,">>119622793 from the Daily Bell interview I posted above.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491395220 119588002,119623177,2017-04-05 12:28:10,">>119588002 >Libertarian right Yeah, like that's a thing. Just call it what it is: anarcho-monarchism",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1491395290 119588002,119623441,2017-04-05 12:30:34,">>119622877 >retard, that happens on a socialdemocrat-statist framework, not one where it's foundation is just the NAP and private regulations. These things would be HUNTED down in an ancap framework, and not metaphoricaly, but by incentives. Spouting meaningless rhetoric in the face of a real world actual situation? Not only that, but one you clearly have no experience with? >I'm repeating it again, whoever is affected by your shitty company is defenceless against it. yeah, because they cant really sue the company for laws that dont exist. You yourself are advocating FOR regulations here so I dont even know why you would be mad at me for that. I know you are consumed entirely with the philosophical nature of it, but in reality, there are really rich and powerful people who dont give a shit about any sort of society or the environment and just want more money, like cancer growing without reason. The problem I have with ancaps is that they want to overthrow the tyranny of the government and replace it with the tyranny of the company.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491395434 119588002,119623550,2017-04-05 12:31:21,">>119622801 >This is what you ancap shills want though. HOLY SHIT he's deflecting his moral irresponsability on us What the fuck is this degeneracy?? you're no longer a person",,Anonymous,moonman.jpg,pw3286cmd1Y3qNMkeFXdtQ==,ES,,1491395481 119588002,119623610,2017-04-05 12:31:53,>>119623177,,Anonymous,dunno goy.png,ttGFwiD37hhTyBD52oSmPw==,PT,,1491395513 119588002,119623913,2017-04-05 12:34:51,">>119623177 private property ruling has nothing to do with blue blood, crowns we wuz kangs n' shet",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491395691 119588002,119624141,2017-04-05 12:36:53,">>119623550 Youre being overly emotional and angry at me for pointing out what your utopia looks like anon. the ""environment"" isnt just separate things anon. Its not like you can just pollute your side of the river while the other parts magically remain unaffected because of the NAP or some other abstract concept.",,Anonymous,china-bad-pollution-climate-change-28__880.jpg,3Lr8vX4G+Myjdl4CuaeP2g==,US,,1491395813 119588002,119624199,2017-04-05 12:37:20,">>119610618 I've got so much work I can't care for the threats atm :( Anyway. I think we might add the following article to the OP: >But Wouldn't Warlords Take Over? | Mises Institute https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over As that is a very common non-troll-question I've noticed",,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1491395840 119588002,119624497,2017-04-05 12:39:54,">>119624141 you don't understand how ancapia work, you're assuming absence that's an ad hoc fallacy, you retard how do you expect me to keep wasting my time with you where, on top of being intelectually inept, you even enginer your very own moral highground over ancaps while you're not even reporting what you know, you're a fucking piece of shit I'm extremely disgusted by you",,Anonymous,1489348403986.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,ES,,1491395994 119588002,119624686,2017-04-05 12:41:40,"I just got done reading this and thought it was pretty interesting so I'll post it here https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration",,Anonymous,82456234823484356.jpg,erZlkjUJk1LQ/4GCUD8iew==,US,,1491396100 119588002,119625160,2017-04-05 12:45:52,">>119624497 >all this appeal to emotion >I'm extremely disgusted by you I know because I just showed a prime example of how horrible your world view is. Please explain to me how a company can privatly own a section of the air and pollute that, which then somehow magically doesnt spread and poisons everybodies lungs? Or explain to me how completely removing any government to settled disputes between companies and other people is going to actually help them settle disputes in what amounts to some real world david and goliath battle? How is one small little guy supposed to stand up to an oil company polluting his land without the government? Does your world view preach some eternal civil war bloody battles instead of some legal hearing? http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/14/around-22-million-deaths-in-india-and-china-from-air-pollution-study.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491396352 119588002,119625529,2017-04-05 12:49:20,">>119588002 Remeber, the only way a Libertarian society can EVER be established is if left-wing scum are REMOVED from your community, by any means necessary.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491396560 119588002,119625657,2017-04-05 12:50:35,">>119624199 Thank you for your service to /lrg/ I know You made many threads for the cause.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491396635 119588002,119625744,2017-04-05 12:51:19,">>119625160 You can sue people for damaging your property under ancap. The reason they get away with it currently is because the legal monopoly shields them. If you can prove that your property was damaged you have more of a chance of winning when there's competition in courts rather than a monopoly. You said yourself they're dumping shit in the ground and the government isn't doing anything. So why would you expect the government to solve it? >settled disputes between companies and other people People would have more influence in the market if they were allowed to switch insurers. In a centralized system where you rely on politicians you have much higher chance of corruption. So your Goliath becomes much stronger because he can buy politicians. He doesn't have that option under a free market. He can try but the people will just switch when they spot some fuckery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491396679 119588002,119626049,2017-04-05 12:54:23,">>119625744 >You said yourself they're dumping shit in the ground and the government isn't doing anything. because they dont know about it. The coast guard periodically checks facilities for this shit like once a year. And if these companies can just buy out the judges like you claim, then how will it be ANY different in a society where there is no government? How is there even a judge without a government? A private court? who appoints the judges of this court or even makes the laws? the person with the most money. Its always funny how anarchist realize how shit their meme idea is and end up having to shill for government in the end, but just call it something else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491396863 119588002,119626103,2017-04-05 12:55:00,"Good. We need more of these threads because retarded ""socialism for whites will work dude lmao"" have overflowed /pol/. Take back the board, drive out any kind of socialist scum. Bump for liberty and private property.",,Anonymous,fyHuN1Tov04.jpg,XYJyoD9s79ajcpV5DXlVHQ==,US,,1491396900 119588002,119626290,2017-04-05 12:56:52,">>119626049 >how will it be ANY different in a society where there is no government >people will just switch when they spot some fuckery >How is there even a judge without a government? A private court? who appoints the judges of this court or even makes the laws? the person with the most money. Watch the video first. Then comment.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491397012 119588002,119627769,2017-04-05 13:11:16,">>119626103 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U75g2mDTXtA",,Anonymous,95347356824563568356765.jpg,j1mTCwSv8JInpm8cf4b1rA==,US,,1491397876 119633710,119633710,2017-04-05 14:02:51,"Greetings, comrades. :^) This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - PRIVATISED NUKES EDITION,Anonymous,free ride left side.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,SK,,1491400971 119633710,119633931,2017-04-05 14:04:30,,,Anonymous,so to speak wave.jpg,PgRS9iRYc/dTEocthWpw4g==,SK,,1491401070 119633710,119633999,2017-04-05 14:05:05,,,Anonymous,hoppe commies covenant.jpg,ckKjaFAUScKcuxT33B/0Hg==,SK,,1491401105 119633710,119634029,2017-04-05 14:05:23,">>119633710 Commies physical removal, so to speak",,Anonymous,images.jpg,SiXl0PUA2ir2hb4wJdvT2g==,US,,1491401123 119633710,119634093,2017-04-05 14:06:01,,,Anonymous,rothbard privatisation.jpg,WXsZoScWPE8MGWrTk70zRA==,SK,,1491401161 119633710,119634163,2017-04-05 14:06:33,,,Anonymous,hoppe remove.png,v0xaTHYX88eQb2amKFrEiw==,SK,,1491401193 119633710,119634247,2017-04-05 14:07:22,">>119634029 Amen. LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491401242 119633710,119634745,2017-04-05 14:11:34,">>119633710 You do realize anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron, right?",,Anonymous,1486241287783.jpg,xhbD3AnF6orCNjgVUjdshA==,US,,1491401494 119633710,119635236,2017-04-05 14:15:47,">>119634745 You do realise liking communism makes you a moron, right? Private property is protected by the power of the individual.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491401747 119633710,119635603,2017-04-05 14:18:46,">>119634745 *anarcho-communism FTFY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491401926 119633710,119637842,2017-04-05 14:36:19,">protagonist guts the economy of a small town to uphold the NAP how many shows do this",,Anonymous,mpc-hc64 2017-04-05 21-33-03-43.png,CI5+CU+GNvVhvuThwQltKA==,BG,,1491402979 119633710,119638296,2017-04-05 14:39:56,">>119633710 Bump for private right wing death squads!",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1491403196 119633710,119639995,2017-04-05 14:53:38,">>119634745 You do realize you're a huge faggot right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491404018 119633710,119640522,2017-04-05 14:58:18,"https://youtu.be/AcTvkt8k0sE?t=11m28s Min 11:28 Really awsome quote, that's god tier over there about how the world would do better without economists lel",,Anonymous,C2vS00iUsAE86Yf.jpg,18Wl0OHTU96S+XteDKTLGw==,ES,,1491404298 119633710,119641011,2017-04-05 15:02:46,">>119634745 >establish anarchy >immediately hand over your liberties to a new state I think you meant anarcho-communism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491404566 119633710,119642173,2017-04-05 15:12:10,"give me free shit, I deserve it.",,Anonymous,serveimage.jpg,fvcUIjB6eH1EONx2jJjc+Q==,CA,,1491405130 119633710,119643199,2017-04-05 15:20:12,">>119634745 Who will force me to build the roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491405612 119633710,119643204,2017-04-05 15:20:13,"What do libertarians, specifically ancaps, think of police, private security (PS)? Couldn't one PS overgrow others and basically install unformal police state? This shit still makes me think that maybe things like police should be left to small goverment.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491405613 119633710,119643430,2017-04-05 15:22:08,How can we destroy Marxists without violating the NAP?,,Anonymous,Don't tread.png,TNf4XA8LJGyt8QZ5IGw2Kw==,IE,,1491405728 119633710,119643599,2017-04-05 15:23:29,">>119643204 You're right. ANCAPS are autistic, a small government is needed. Certain things the government does do better. P-privatize everything goy, don't mind the Chinese State government buying up all the shares in your media.. when they build schools for you its only to your benefit!",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1491405809 119633710,119643650,2017-04-05 15:23:52,">>119643204 You don't prevent an armed monopoly by installing an armed monopoly, that's for sure",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491405832 119633710,119643698,2017-04-05 15:24:14,">>119643430 Communists do not have the same rights as libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491405854 119633710,119643791,2017-04-05 15:24:59,">>119643204 The state is an armed monopoly. That's all it is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491405899 119633710,119643869,2017-04-05 15:25:33,">>119643430 Commies don't believe in property or self ownership, so they might as well be our property and we can do whatever we want with our property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491405933 119633710,119643912,2017-04-05 15:25:51,">>119643791 So private security firms can form a state? (this is probably how it happened historically lol)",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491405951 119633710,119644341,2017-04-05 15:29:10,">>119643912 Not unless you let them. For a state to form a group of people need to have a monopoly over the use of threats and violence in an area; and it needs the population to accept such or at least view it as inevitable. Likely that as soon as a group started showing signs of using violence where it was not needed, they would be attacked to prevent further spread.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491406150 119633710,119644373,2017-04-05 15:29:27,Where can i ride a helicopter for free?,,Anonymous,chart.png,TcSAhtm2msoarj1JAicnDw==,RU,,1491406167 119633710,119644568,2017-04-05 15:30:53,">>119644341 Without a police force or military that would be easy in a libertarian world though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491406253 119633710,119644819,2017-04-05 15:32:45,">>119644341 What I meant is what if private security firms would grow so large that it could easily repel any rebellion? It doesn't even have to be a private security firm, it can be McDonalds that will start sending their McTroopers on streets.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491406365 119633710,119644851,2017-04-05 15:32:57,">>119644568 Private police? Nobody benefits from one police force taking over apart from it's members. It's infeasible for them to fight the rest of society and win. https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491406377 119633710,119645128,2017-04-05 15:35:18,">>119644568 It's the exact opposite. If the armed population heavily outweighs the forces of the state the state can't do shit. Especially if the population is encouraged to take part in militias that aren't part of the state.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491406518 119633710,119645301,2017-04-05 15:36:43,"New Libertarian /lrg/ Telegram group http://t.me/libertarianrg free discussion, no nazi mods get telegram a http://telegram.org",,Anonymous,IMG_20170403_113958.jpg,e0EsYnkHKISBBdA/TEM3ow==,US,,1491406603 119633710,119645865,2017-04-05 15:41:43,">>119644819 >private security firms would grow so large Who would fund that growth? Assuming you can switch insurers you could go for a cheaper alternative. >inb4 they won't let you They're not fuck huge at this point. >McDonalds that will start sending their McTroopers Nice meme. Not gonna happen. Richcunts would need to collaborate and invest massive amounts of money to start shit. And it would be doomed to fail. You're trying to take over armed anarchists. It's not gonna work unless you get a significant portion of the population on your side.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491406903 119633710,119645931,2017-04-05 15:42:11,">>119645301 > Free discussion > No Nazis Pretty sure that violates the NAP bro.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491406931 119633710,119646021,2017-04-05 15:42:52,">>119645931 nazis are allowed famq its just an image",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491406972 119633710,119646872,2017-04-05 15:50:05,">>119640522 Nassim Taleb is a pretty big redpill in most of the stuff he writes on scientists and organized science. ""Scientism"" and government official science is a cancer and people like him are doing god's work by uncovering their BS.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491407405 119633710,119646977,2017-04-05 15:51:00,">>119643430 By creating a society that requires them to do real work to live.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491407460 119633710,119649585,2017-04-05 16:13:00,,,Anonymous,Capture.png,Y8L6ZfSTf6RLnw703tISpg==,GB,,1491408780 119633710,119649638,2017-04-05 16:13:25,Bump,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,US,,1491408805 119654852,119654852,2017-04-05 16:55:26,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc","/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - ""What is neccesary"" edition",Anonymous,1491383945438.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,GB,,1491411326 119654852,119654935,2017-04-05 16:56:11,,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491411371 119654852,119654988,2017-04-05 16:56:40,,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491411400 119654852,119655050,2017-04-05 16:57:06,,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491411426 119654852,119655165,2017-04-05 16:58:08,"would people in ancapistan be able to form communes or squatter blocks if they had the property to do so? Or is anarcho-capitalism more about enforcing capitalism, or free-enterprise?",,Anonymous,1455238365912.jpg,PJZ0v9NUwFfnMdIbpbmu/w==,CA,,1491411488 119654852,119655319,2017-04-05 16:59:32,">ancaps ahahahaha",,Anonymous,image.jpg,h3zuDFeNXFpduolpnDJCbg==,US,,1491411572 119654852,119655435,2017-04-05 17:00:38,">>119655165 Would people be able to live on property they own and feed/ care for one another? yes, obviously squatting is specifically on property you don't own though, so if the owner catches you they'd be well within their rights to remove you or kill you if caught",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491411638 119654852,119655588,2017-04-05 17:01:57,>>119655319,,Anonymous,1491256395185.jpg,a7J+zzGxOke7onga0nE0hQ==,GB,,1491411717 119654852,119655749,2017-04-05 17:03:34,">>119655435 would ancapistan have some type of a mutually upheld constitution, or is it just the law of the jungle? Also, would there be public property that can't be touched, i.e. things for recreational use like parks, and soccer fields?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491411814 119654852,119656251,2017-04-05 17:08:04,">>119655749 no. it would be privately owned. think how much positive publicity it would be for your private business if it was known to maintain lands open to the public a free market with no govt meddling incentivizes practices that elevate everyone, because in the long run that is the best way for you to be elevated",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491412084 119654852,119656456,2017-04-05 17:09:45,">>119654852 >sharing a thread with cucktarians",,Anonymous,1472234106771.jpg,9hbEQBuUBzGLECPCF42kXQ==,US,,1491412185 119654852,119656786,2017-04-05 17:12:52,">>119655749 You could ask a hundred different libertarians/ an-caps/ minarchists/ etc this and get a hundred different answers. Obviously the anarcho-capitalists don't believe a state needs to exist at all (that is a group with a monopoly on force who make laws etc) so they wouldn't believe in a constitution, but then there are those in the US libertarian party who essentially just want their government to follow the constitution that already exists. I personally believe that we should basically have a free market of laws, and I think for the most part the only universal thing necessary would be a general principle of non-aggression. It is likely there will be people who will be proactively violent or aggressive anyway of course, but I think they will not get far in a world of heavily armed micro-states (or more accurately, voluntary covenants) who could form a coalition to combat any major threat.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491412372 119654852,119657737,2017-04-05 17:21:20,">>119655749 oh yeah forgot to answer this too >would there be public property that can't be touched, i.e. things for recreational use like parks, and soccer fields? No, it would be owned privately, but I'm sure there'd be people who let them be used like a public space",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491412880 119654852,119658209,2017-04-05 17:25:15,">>119656456 libertarians feel like cucks when they hang with us. they'll want to join the private death squad.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,US,,1491413115 119654852,119659503,2017-04-05 17:35:43,"I've got a single link for the reading list. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/wiki/reading",,Anonymous,Pepe.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1491413743 119654852,119661348,2017-04-05 17:50:20,"bump >>119656456",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491414620 119654852,119662247,2017-04-05 17:57:22,,,Anonymous,16472978_1843562552580957_2059561301784057992_n.jpg,z5G+cDNbFfvJm1Gx+8uqIw==,US,,1491415042 119654852,119662771,2017-04-05 18:01:22,"Is Frederic Bastiat a good read? I am a law student and therefore inclined to justify the state, any reads to help confront that?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491415282 119654852,119663375,2017-04-05 18:06:09,">>119658209 didn't know whe had meta comedy around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZbrG0tWXWs",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491415569 119654852,119664041,2017-04-05 18:11:16,">>119663375 let me ask you a question. >do you support the grabbing of my balls?",,Anonymous,1488910637310.jpg,j8LR12YdKTWMEnBNchIDYw==,US,,1491415876 119654852,119664441,2017-04-05 18:14:34,">>119664041 do you support the ball grabbing against me ?",,Anonymous,1489712391447.jpg,CqIC18Eh7/OI6pdEeY2W5Q==,ES,,1491416074 119654852,119664766,2017-04-05 18:17:34,">>119662771 The Law by Bastiat is definitely worth reading, I haven't read any of his other works if I'm honest, in fact I really don't read as much as I should. >any reads to help confront that? https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491416254 119654852,119664767,2017-04-05 18:17:35,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrSJFb36hEw,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491416255 119727973,119727973,2017-04-06 06:14:44,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - ROADCUCKS GET OUT EDITION,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1491459284 119727973,119728001,2017-04-06 06:15:07,,,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1491459307 119727973,119728032,2017-04-06 06:15:30,,,Anonymous,HOPPE.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1491459330 119727973,119728067,2017-04-06 06:15:53,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,US,,1491459353 119727973,119728089,2017-04-06 06:16:11,,,Anonymous,Mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,US,,1491459371 119727973,119728950,2017-04-06 06:29:43,,,Anonymous,hoppeanism.png,/yCVyLxXc08n4wtK5PdSew==,US,,1491460183 119727973,119729712,2017-04-06 06:41:42,,,Anonymous,1484824855423.jpg,BPIws0FyxB8blyYXFIxKaw==,US,,1491460902 119727973,119729754,2017-04-06 06:42:20,,,Anonymous,heh_watch_this.jpg,rBF7cWX1BUmM/d+m4Y0ddg==,ES,,1491460940 119727973,119729889,2017-04-06 06:44:28,">>119729754 damn goy thats lot of shekels",,Anonymous,snek (13).jpg,WeiEDcQayx0q3aRb3nKD+g==,US,,1491461068 119727973,119730949,2017-04-06 06:59:33,Bump,,Anonymous,1491258750988.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,US,,1491461973 119727973,119732308,2017-04-06 07:18:19,"but who will build the roads and what about healthcare & human right? >irony.exe >chuckle.wav",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491463099 119727973,119732900,2017-04-06 07:26:15,">>119732308 Road building companies. And depends on what you think ""human rights"" are. The only right is self ownership.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491463575 119727973,119733365,2017-04-06 07:32:21,">>119732900 i'm with you on all, i just love those two arguments, i always get them when people discover i'm libertarian",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491463941 119727973,119734245,2017-04-06 07:44:41,">>119733365 I figured but ""human rights"" was too cucked I took the b8",,Anonymous,1489207904510.jpg,/7wXK09zHthUhFUJW10GxQ==,US,,1491464681 119727973,119735097,2017-04-06 07:56:38,">>119734245 dude, my post literally implied irony & chuckle",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491465398 119727973,119735303,2017-04-06 07:59:22,">>119735097 Yeah but you can never be sure how many levels of irony swedes can be on.",,Anonymous,QsZPVq1.png,froj00cCZ8s9TBn5T/GolQ==,US,,1491465562 119727973,119736131,2017-04-06 08:09:39,"Ownership is a relationship between two things. The self is only one thing, so ""self ownership"" literally makes as much sense as ""self being taller than self."" It also lays out the philosophical basis for ""voluntary"" slavery, and your IQ is too low to see the problem with a ""liberty"" ideology that justifies slavery. Go suck dead Austrian Count dick",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491466179 119727973,119736975,2017-04-06 08:20:02,">>119736131 You mind owns your body. Slavery implies involuntary labor. theres no such thing as consent based slavery.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491466802 119727973,119737048,2017-04-06 08:21:03,"The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. You must be successful, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Racial politics doesn’t have to be the only factor of that. If you can’t achieve these things in your real life, then you are not ready to be a political activist, either anonymously or in reality. Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet don’t. So work your ass off, every day, to build a good life for yourself. Because if you can’t make anything of your own, individual life, then how can you think you’ll be able to make a difference for the race, for the lives of many? Spend your time wisely, and keep your real life priorities in order. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life. Your time on Earth is short and precious. Start planning on making the most of it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491466863 119727973,119737361,2017-04-06 08:25:13,"Why there is still no libertarian country? If all libertarians come together, we can conquer one aftican state, Madagascar can be a good target.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491467113 119727973,119737665,2017-04-06 08:29:13,">>119737048 Pretty much my thoughts exactly, based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491467353 119727973,119737922,2017-04-06 08:32:43,Infrastructure?,,Anonymous,1484312182700.jpg,dqQAZMcfpE2RxdDOjKU1FA==,GB,,1491467563 119727973,119738259,2017-04-06 08:37:05,">>119737361 Africa kinda sucks, even without Africans around. I could have a more civilized libertarian lifestlye in the states",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491467825 119727973,119738473,2017-04-06 08:40:09,">>119738259 How?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491468009 119727973,119738807,2017-04-06 08:44:22,">>119738473 My guess's counter-economics.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491468262 119727973,119739154,2017-04-06 08:48:55,"Months ago ( this general started popping up right when ancap piqued my interest) I started to read libertarian literature by going straight ahead for the economics and ethics of private property, but I abandonned it a bit before the end. Now I am leaving it as the cherry on top of Hoppe as suggested by you guys. I read anatomy of the state by Rothbard and Economics and the Austrian method by Hoppe. Yesterday I finished reading A theory of Socialism and Capitalism. Really magnificient stuff,he is a genius. Should I continue with democracy the god that failed or with some other of his works? Also I did not really get the chapter about monopoly, specifically why there is no difference between the price of a monopolist and the of the non monopolist.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1491468535 119727973,119739236,2017-04-06 08:49:52,">>119738473 >>119738807 Homesteading, counter economics, and civil disobedience. America ain't that bad for us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491468592 119727973,119739706,2017-04-06 08:55:34,">>119739154 Yeah democracy is a highly recommended read",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491468934 119727973,119739907,2017-04-06 08:58:04,">>119739154 Go with the Demoracy. The first half is black pill, the second is red pill.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491469084 119727973,119740065,2017-04-06 09:00:09,">>119727973 BUT WHO GON PAY FO DA RAILWAYS WE SEND YOU TO DEATH CAMPS ON?? Also, a friendly reminder that libertarianims is a jewish scheme to pray on the autistic and weak minded.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491469209 119727973,119740194,2017-04-06 09:01:34,"To all the redditfags and newfags in general: daily reminder not to fall for the leftypol d&c shills. I'm not a libertarian, but I can still apreciate some aspects of the ideology, since we have common objectives (especially removing commies). So don't sperg out at libertarians",,Anonymous,,,MC,,1491469294 119727973,119740347,2017-04-06 09:03:17,">>119740194 Respect. You're a bro. No removal for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491469397 119727973,119740492,2017-04-06 09:05:17,">>119739154 I should also add that your view of the world will radically change after reading Democracy, and that you may feel disconnected with politics and politicians for the rest of your life unless they are the ""racist"" and ""fascist"" types. I also hope you live in Padania since you'll most likely become a militant for Lega Nord kek",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491469517 119727973,119740597,2017-04-06 09:06:42,">>119737361 Because most people can't provide everything on their own, hence co-operation. Capitalism takes hold, sure, but someone has to be there to point the gun at those who want to fuck everything up. You can say ""let the people do that!"" but what you'll end up with is a militia, then that militia will turn into constables, then you'll have the modern police force out of that. We used to have libertarian society, but the fact of the matter is that it's extremely outdated and not viable once your population/society reaches a certain developmental and popular point. It kicks ass in theory though, and there's no harm in striving for it politically. It's just difficult to have a libertarian society without it getting reformed into something else shortly after, mainly due to the power vacuum.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491469602 119727973,119740637,2017-04-06 09:07:22,">>119740347 never forgetti",,Anonymous,1490785830241.png,dCNDxC++SRC+iVGkMOV9Lg==,MC,,1491469642 119727973,119741088,2017-04-06 09:13:11,"Reading this book right now, it's pretty based.",,Anonymous,consequences-of-equality-MB.jpg,IYEusCjTQfbBaSPOAMmm/Q==,SE,,1491469991 119727973,119741661,2017-04-06 09:20:50,,,Anonymous,15800290_1215052428563074_127595192301779397_o.png,WTjC+j5okRf3u8TROIbp1Q==,PL,,1491470450 119727973,119742107,2017-04-06 09:26:19,">>119740492 I already had that view of politics anon. Also I am sicilian kek",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1491470779 119727973,119743921,2017-04-06 09:47:48,Bump,,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1491472068 119727973,119743926,2017-04-06 09:47:51,Walter Block has quite a bit of good stuff on YouTube that might be good to add,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491472071 119733483,119733483,2017-04-06 07:34:07,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FOREIGN POLICY DISCUSSION EDITION,Anonymous,nes-hiss-ary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,SK,,1491464047 119733483,119733539,2017-04-06 07:34:47,,,Anonymous,join or die better version.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,SK,,1491464087 119733483,119733619,2017-04-06 07:36:09,,,Anonymous,hoppe friend.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,SK,,1491464169 119733483,119733881,2017-04-06 07:39:38,"Somebody post the rest of the pastebin, I got the old one saved on my phone. >inb4 phoneposters devalue quality of content on an Uzbek kompot making board and need to be removed This thread's theme - do we spread our ideology of peace to the outside world, and if so, how?",,Anonymous,snek self interest.png,KaPNGOhDFCT3Nk7bR5sAYw==,SK,,1491464378 119764972,119764972,2017-04-06 13:15:10,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General: PHYSICAL REMOVAL Edition,Anonymous,physical removal.jpg,61h91cl35uFBvjIF8eYLKQ==,PT,,1491484510 119764972,119765061,2017-04-06 13:15:53,,,Anonymous,ancap squad_00000.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1491484553 119764972,119765103,2017-04-06 13:16:12,,,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1491484572 119764972,119765195,2017-04-06 13:16:59,,,Anonymous,rothbard pepe background.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,PT,,1491484619 119764972,119765289,2017-04-06 13:17:49,,,Anonymous,mises pepe background.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,PT,,1491484669 119764972,119767395,2017-04-06 13:35:44,,,Anonymous,sanders.devito[1].jpg,Aoaaq/Oyu8V/WZNTJaiJBg==,US,,1491485744 119764972,119767656,2017-04-06 13:38:04,,,Anonymous,communist spy.png,ZGIA75579yhg6xAyhnjMrQ==,US,,1491485884 119764972,119769859,2017-04-06 13:56:22,">>119764972 Based Portugal. Also don't listen to poster above me, he's probably a commie spy",,Anonymous,1489007111938.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,US,,1491486982 119764972,119770906,2017-04-06 14:05:11,">>119769859 This poster above me likes to eat burgers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491487511 119764972,119772912,2017-04-06 14:22:24,"BUMPING FOR LIFE, LIBERTY, AND PROPERTY HEIL HOPPE",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1491488544 119764972,119772957,2017-04-06 14:22:43,"Lrg pretty dead today, I had thread earlier. I need to make some content. Any requests?",,Anonymous,AncapBall.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1491488563 119764972,119773232,2017-04-06 14:25:00,">>119772957 Are you the lad that made the Rothbard and Mises pepes? Make Friedman and Hayek, too, and maybe Rand for good measure. Or just go full autism and make the Pauls too. Also, what font do you use in those FAQs? Looking to make some of my own.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491488700 119764972,119773391,2017-04-06 14:26:23,">>119772957 make family friendly shit we can actually use in our daily lives",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491488783 119764972,119773502,2017-04-06 14:27:13,"Damn I thought the thread had been deleted. Good evening/night/morning, gents.",,Anonymous,1463762589747.jpg,49RSThT9C9yIqloU3GmNog==,PT,,1491488833 119764972,119773585,2017-04-06 14:27:47,">>119773232 Yeah that's me. The font is called lemon/milk. And sounds good, I'll get a crew of based capitalist pepes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491488867 119764972,119773798,2017-04-06 14:29:29,">>119773502 Evening here, bash the commie trash.",,Anonymous,allende btfo.jpg,3/2aRCaFCZasALSG/RlAxA==,SK,,1491488969 119764972,119773896,2017-04-06 14:30:11,">>119773391 Kek howso family friendly? Does my shit say cuck and faggot too much?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491489011 119764972,119773907,2017-04-06 14:30:19,">>119773585 Make Austrian/libertarian Pepes so we can make a collage of who they are and their positions.",,Anonymous,MurrayBW.jpg,NjP7Faedp2lIririnCYSow==,PT,,1491489019 119764972,119774565,2017-04-06 14:35:21,">>119773585 Also what programs do you use to make those Pepes? Doesn't look like MS Paint to me.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491489321 119764972,119774686,2017-04-06 14:36:20,">>119772957 I think the thread is partly dead because the thread image isnt black and yellow. That always catches my eye in the catalog when I'm looking for it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491489380 119764972,119775143,2017-04-06 14:40:05,">>119774686 >not putting lrg into the search bar why even bother to live Anyway, r8.",,Anonymous,ancap mine.png,VeXoUUG3fuT7g7aPnmwFsQ==,SK,,1491489605 119764972,119775215,2017-04-06 14:40:35,">>119774686 Yeah, I think I fucked up the image this time. Anyways, I'm thinking of doing some new H O P P E W A V E (and perhaps T A Y L O R W A V E for Jared Taylor in the future). Suggestions for the base song? Something that's more similar to the one I used in the first video.",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1491489635 119764972,119775365,2017-04-06 14:41:47,">>119775215 What's Jared Taylor's political stance outside of ethnonationalism? Never put much thought into that.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491489707 119764972,119775715,2017-04-06 14:44:24,">>119775365 I honestly don't know, but he's been to the Property and Freedom Society and, if I recall, made a speech there. He seems to be good friends with Hoppe. But Taylorwave would be only one video, since he's not that memeworthy.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491489864 119764972,119775965,2017-04-06 14:46:14,">>119774565 I make paint quality drawing port it to a vector art program so I can make it big and high quality, then I color it Photoshop.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491489974 119764972,119777347,2017-04-06 14:56:42,">>119775143 I kekt. And I also search lrg.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491490602 119764972,119777861,2017-04-06 15:00:29,">>119774686 Most Libertarians have ADD and need the black and yellow there to focus on something.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491490829 119764972,119777987,2017-04-06 15:01:30,"National Libertarianism >rational and sensible >people judged on their individual merits >prosperous free-market economy >right-wing death squads hunting commies >pride in the nation's achievements and respect other great nations >Western Civilization supremacy >high quality private services and infrastructure >End Game is propertarian anarchy National Socialism >pseudoscience and emotion based arguments >people judged on imaginary race divisions >inefficient commie gibsmedat economy >loses war to communists and gets raped >tries to steal other nation's achievements ""CAESAR WUZ NORDIC N SHEIT"" >irrational notions of racial supremacy >low quality public services and infrastructure >End Game is orwellian superstate",,Anonymous,cute libertarian girl.jpg,XYJyoD9s79ajcpV5DXlVHQ==,PT,,1491490890 119764972,119778156,2017-04-06 15:02:31,">>119777861 Sorta true, I always stop scrolling down the catalog when I see yellow.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491490951 119764972,119778459,2017-04-06 15:04:50,">>119778156 >>119774686 Why wouldn't you search lrg? Come to think of it, if only there was a way to automatically pin generals to the thread watcher. I might write up an extension for it some day.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491491090 119764972,119779055,2017-04-06 15:09:42,">>119778459 I do search for lrg, but I'm also always looking for d&c, and anti libertarian threads when I'm browsing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491491382 119764972,119779804,2017-04-06 15:15:21,">>119778459 Usually I'm not particularly looking for it, just wasting time looking at pol. And if I see lrg I usually open it in a tab.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491491721 119764972,119779991,2017-04-06 15:16:48,">>119777987 >Propertarian anarchy Haha, is it just me, or do libertarians seem like they huff paint before they write about their shitty contradictory ideologies?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491491808 119764972,119780119,2017-04-06 15:17:53,>>119779991,,Anonymous,1491345042673.jpg,a7J+zzGxOke7onga0nE0hQ==,BE,,1491491873 119764972,119780645,2017-04-06 15:21:33,"Let's do filteries.com LET YOUR AUTISM SHINE also ""illegal"" means ""physical removal"" in my covenant, just so we're clear blasphemy means talking against liberty, and ""license required"" in casinos means you have to strike a deal with others in the area.",,Anonymous,WEAPONISED AUTISM AAAHHH.png,6cMbjmkRgbdgWwQn4+FP3A==,SK,,1491492093 119764972,119780779,2017-04-06 15:22:29,">>119780119 Definition of anarchy: >Anarchy is the condition of a society, entity, group of people, or a single person that rejects hierarchy. By definition, propertarianism is the enabling of hierarchies. These two don't fit, at all. Do you just think of what sounds best in your head and smash them together? Because it doesn't work that way.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491492149 119764972,119780903,2017-04-06 15:23:10,">>119777987 >civic nationalist Eh, I like ThatGuyT and the black AnCap rapper and HWNDU Jesus and so on as much as the next goy, but I think people should mostly stick to their own kind.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491492190 119764972,119781133,2017-04-06 15:24:44,">>119780779 Then we're propertarians. Fuck, hierarchy is natural order, the fashies are right on this one. The difference is that we don't believe others should give you that power, you need to seize it yourself, and ultimately you'll only hold it over yourself (unless others agree to flock to you).",,Anonymous,notsee pls go.png,eQ7vrZy/VjyYna1Lyvh4Jw==,SK,,1491492284 119764972,119781490,2017-04-06 15:27:19,">>119780779 there is a difference between voluntary and involuntary hierachies, educate yourself befor you post please",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1491492439 119764972,119781639,2017-04-06 15:28:14,">>119780779 That's a retard communists idea of anarchy. Fuck em. Voluntary hierarchy is fine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491492494 119764972,119782342,2017-04-06 15:33:29,">>119781133 How the fuck do you seize it yourself? You need to have people protecting your property as well. In the end, it's going to end up like a state, and just because you don't call it one doesn't mean it isn't one. >>119781490 You don't have to pay taxes, you can simply stop working. Voluntaryism in action!",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491492809 119764972,119782397,2017-04-06 15:33:52,">>119780903 Yeah, I guess I fall into the same ""mostly racist, but theres some cool nogs"" category. If I'm to live in a nationalist state it should be just for my ethnic group.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491492832 119764972,119782872,2017-04-06 15:37:24,">>119777987 Indeed my friend. Indeed. Although I don't deny HBD nor the wish for European ethno-covenants.",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1491493044 119764972,119783217,2017-04-06 15:40:16,">>119780645 A few clarifications. On immigration: Not some open borders ""libertarian"" cuck; but rather controlled immigration of those who benefit society. On free speech: Physical removal of those who threaten violence, so to speak. On the death penalty: I imagine a few people would be sentenced to the death penalty. It would make economic sense for the prisons, at least. In this case, treason is speech inciting violence, i.e. democrats and communists.",,Anonymous,filteries-libertarian.jpg,/Q/URhpDkp4FMhcGXeenSg==,GB,,1491493216 119764972,119783231,2017-04-06 15:40:23,">>119780645 I'm always confused as to whether I should do these in terms of MY covenant or in ""general.""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491493223 119764972,119783388,2017-04-06 15:41:40,">>119780903 Is T based? I've watched almost nothing of him because I'm skeptical of people who claim to be ancaps on YouTube. They all seem to be Reddit teir.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491493300 119764972,119783538,2017-04-06 15:42:51,">>119782342 >You don't have to pay taxes, you can simply stop working. Voluntaryism in action! This bullshit again. By this logic you are literally justifying robbery because ""you don't have to go outside"". What makes taxation not less theft than the robbery?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1491493371 119764972,119783651,2017-04-06 15:43:39,">>119782342 I can just pay them to do that for me. You know, like white people do. The state is a monopoly on violence, when society and hierarchy turn into a free competition, the state ceases to exist. Of course, some societies/covenants/micro-monarchies are going to be ruled in different ways than others and some may be bigger than others, but generally, the idea is that no man shall be subject to a boot on his neck... unless he's a commie.",,Anonymous,ancap tap.jpg,Im78nhpQ2Fz7mfuOeqsi6A==,SK,,1491493419 119764972,119783823,2017-04-06 15:44:58,I'm never leaving cucksickles,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1491500857534.jpg,2qu/8jsMTP8OYH6m8v+gNA==,US,,1491493498 119764972,119784143,2017-04-06 15:47:18,">>119783651 >Unless he's a commie. Based. >>119783823 Seems like some cool dudes, kid on the left tho needs to change his gay haircut choices.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491493638 119764972,119784257,2017-04-06 15:48:10,">>119782397 Pretty much. I actually really hate when the bell curve is brought into this - yes, the majority of them are shit, I think that's already the consensus on /pol/. However, that don't mean that there are no exceptional individuals, just like it doesn't mean like there are complete subhumans who should give fellatio to a flare gun. Pic related - /pol/ approved DANK non-whites. FUCKING BASED (even though Pinochet is a European mix - but muh spaniards aren't white meme)",,Anonymous,non-whites of pol.png,umZs4YvjWwx17WPQEABWXw==,SK,,1491493690 119764972,119784464,2017-04-06 15:49:45,">>119780645 Here. I should also add that I said no voting rights for women (why the fuck don't they ask the same for men?!) because this would not be a democracy but a confederacy of private property covenants. Also immigration would be by invitation only, and degenerate behavior would grant expulsion from my covenant. I selected elective monarchy since it comes close to elective government (private insurance companies).",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491493785 119764972,119784582,2017-04-06 15:50:30,fugg forgot pic,,Anonymous,weaponized autism.png,WEDHMi3t78FI0fMCxwiK1g==,PT,,1491493830 119764972,119785001,2017-04-06 15:53:42,">>119784464 Seems like a nice covenant. I'd do it differently, but I'd live in your covenant. I will get my autism chart together in few.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491494022 119764972,119785186,2017-04-06 15:55:03,">>119783388 Oh he's based as fuck. Borderline hotep (the /ourguy/ kind, not the ""MELANIN IS SPACE MAGIC SHIEEET NIGGAS WE WUZ COSMOKANGZ SNORTING GROUND UP COMETS AND SHIEEET"" retards), conservative, genuine AnCap (almost Cantwell-tier), gives a fair hearing to ethno-nationalists, and he's redpilled on the Jews. Fuckin BASED. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NQS3Gtf4_M",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491494103 119764972,119785224,2017-04-06 15:55:16,">>119785001 Indeed. I edited a few things in the meantime since I didn't look at those options.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491494116 119764972,119785602,2017-04-06 15:58:06,">>119784582 >>119783217 Good to see like-minded goys on /pol/. I think the not-sees and fashies would like us more if they actually visited our threads.",,Anonymous,lrg tiers.jpg,Ih5kYEktvivoO7oz5G1xhQ==,SK,,1491494286 119764972,119785748,2017-04-06 15:59:06,">>119783538 >By this logic you are literally justifying robbery because ""you don't have to go outside"". I made an example of your logic, not mine. >>119783651 >but generally, the idea is that no man shall be subject to a boot on his neck >Pay rent to stay in this private land, you NAP-violating heathen!",,Anonymous,17499432_10211100511481357_3973015269040652484_n.jpg,uK+uo5Hlgbu4evtuU21NFg==,SE,,1491494346 119764972,119786540,2017-04-06 16:05:01,">>119785748 >implying I'd force my goys to pay rent Why? They'd pack their shit and leave. Remember - free competition. Besides, when we pair up with the AnTechs and AnTranshumans and we make space colonies a reality, land will cease to be a scarce resource - or will be abundant enough to be cheap.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491494701 119764972,119786575,2017-04-06 16:05:18,">>119785602 > I think the not-sees and fashies would like us more if they actually visited our threads >tfw (((they))) cucked mainstream libertarianism into being wishy-washy open borders cuckery and not based physical removal and the natural order of things",,Anonymous,1491428143883.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,GB,,1491494718 119764972,119787023,2017-04-06 16:08:48,">>119786540 >covenants become not small communes or microstates but entire planets WEW L A D",,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,PT,,1491494928 119764972,119787315,2017-04-06 16:11:04,">>119785186 Lol, sounds legit. I'll watch when I get home.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491495064 119764972,119788317,2017-04-06 16:18:33,">>119786575 Funny enough, Rothbard (too irreprehensible to put echoes around) was the one who noticed this in late 20th century and founded paleolibertarianism and paved the way for Chopper Hoppe the commie-dropper.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491495513 119764972,119788559,2017-04-06 16:20:25,">>119787315 It's literally 42 or so seconds. You can watch the entire thing (Necessary Opression of the Left or something on his channel) later, that's 15 minutes. Also leave a like on Hoppean Snake Memes on Faceberg if you haven't. Hate to shill, but he's /ourgoy/ as fuck.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491495625 119764972,119789164,2017-04-06 16:25:04,">>119787023 >you were born too early to own a Galaxy™ Not under AnCapism I wasn't. >Hold it, commie. We space explorers now.",,Anonymous,ancap space.png,gJPXJMm1P77lPjrexr06XQ==,SK,,1491495904 119811907,119811907,2017-04-06 19:08:00,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Hoppepe Edition,Anonymous,1491235044749.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,BR,,1491505680 119811907,119811942,2017-04-06 19:08:13,,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491505693 119811907,119811981,2017-04-06 19:08:31,,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491505711 119811907,119812053,2017-04-06 19:08:57,,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491505737 119811907,119812098,2017-04-06 19:09:15,,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491505755 119811907,119813939,2017-04-06 19:22:29,"How do we push for more libertarian candidates when the Libertarian Party is so fucked up? They spent time arguing about driver's licenses at their fucking convention.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491506549 119811907,119814090,2017-04-06 19:23:46,">physical removal of communists That violates the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491506626 119811907,119814200,2017-04-06 19:24:32,">>119813939 I would say the libertarian party is completly lost to left libertarian. There is not much to do",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491506672 119811907,119814331,2017-04-06 19:25:28,">>119814090 Communists and democrats aren't protected under the same rights as libertarians",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491506728 119811907,119814407,2017-04-06 19:26:00,">>119814090 Communists don't want NAP, so they shouldn't mind when someone violates their NAP.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491506760 119811907,119814680,2017-04-06 19:27:51,">>119814090 Rights must be reciprocated. Historically, communists don't do that, and if they denie that private property is a right, they are deniying their own self ownership rights, therefore they should be physically separated and removed, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491506871 119811907,119814786,2017-04-06 19:28:32,">>119814090 What if my private covenant has the written rule ""no communists""?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1491506912 119811907,119815373,2017-04-06 19:32:39,">>119814200 There is the pauls.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491507159 119811907,119815720,2017-04-06 19:35:02,">>119815373 I desperately want Rand Paul to do well during a campaign, but he doesn't seem to be aggressive enough. He is amazing at refuting bullshit, but he doesn't seem to rile a crowd up as well as he should. I think Rand has the philosophy down quite well, but he needs to really work on his campaigning so that he can actually be competitive. As much as some people hate dumbing themselves down for the public, that's the harsh reality of it. He can go back to normal when he gets elected.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491507302 119811907,119815921,2017-04-06 19:36:23,">>119815373 As you can see, I'm one of those favela nigger-monkeys, and I am not so familiar with the libertarian party because I belive that changing the system from within is hardly effective",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491507383 119811907,119816868,2017-04-06 19:42:38,">>119814090 People who are ideologically opposed to Non-Agression are infact coercive forces that must be defended against by any means necessary.",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1491507758 119811907,119817104,2017-04-06 19:44:22,">>119813939 Start a new Industrial Party or Technocratic Party. The Soviets hated and eventually destroyed their Prompartiya by using the membership's engineers and doctors as convenient scapegoats when shit went south. And we all know shit went south constantly in the USSR. Basically, bad harvest? Monkey trial and send the agronomist to Siberia. Dam floods some collective farms? Show trial, send the engineer to Siberia. Etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491507862 119811907,119817223,2017-04-06 19:45:22,I have come to deliever my wares. as requested in a previous thread.,,Anonymous,Hayek.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,US,,1491507922 119811907,119817266,2017-04-06 19:45:40,,,Anonymous,Friedman.png,XMc+yAZJhBMiiFkQhvuYXw==,US,,1491507940 119811907,119817314,2017-04-06 19:45:57,,,Anonymous,rand.png,I0m72rH2uDq7+gfqYipWrQ==,US,,1491507957 119811907,119817327,2017-04-06 19:46:04,">>119815720 >Rand Paul Permanent second-stringer. Libertarians need to find people who will stake out workable ideological and policy positions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491507964 119811907,119817337,2017-04-06 19:46:07,">>119811907 >member of any libertarian think tank goes on Question Time >repeatedly referred to by other panelists as 'far right' or 'right wing' Literally what do they mean by this? The vast majority of them are basically classic liberals.",,Anonymous,1476396685672.png,NHHmCv6mNUUmtkX+h7dg7g==,GB,,1491507967 119811907,119817865,2017-04-06 19:49:37,">>119817327 Is there anyone you would point out as being first-stringers? The fact that a huge cuck like Gary Johnson even managed to become the nominee over his own VP, who was far more well spoken, shows me the Libertarian party is pretty shitty in its current state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491508177 119811907,119817926,2017-04-06 19:50:01,">>119817314 >>119817266 >>119817223 For the love of kek, this are just as good as the last ones!",,Anonymous,1491344043569.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,BR,,1491508201 119811907,119818289,2017-04-06 19:52:50,">>119817865 McAffee for starters. Peter Thiel, too. Run most of a new IndParty by encrypted online voting and knowledge management. Try to capture money, bias and influence at the software level. The modern LP is fucking embarrassing. Naked fat gingers dancing across the stage? Really?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491508370 119811907,119818321,2017-04-06 19:53:00,">>119814331 Why is this? >>119814407 Under what authority do you have to say this? What if someone disagrees with how you use your rights? Do they have the right to ""physically remove"" you? >>119814680 >denying self ownership rights But I thought that was a undeniable right of all mankind according to Libertarians? Is it just anyone who disagrees with you who no longer has these rights? Where is the cutoff? Just people who deny private property as a right? In that case, who is to prevent lesser socialists from having slightly less extreme views and ruining your utopia, bit by bit? I was under the understanding that ""When NAP applies to them as well as to normal people, as supporters of NAP agree, critics state that logically NAP should apply to all life forms with similar characteristics"", so shouldn't all humans have those rights, even if they say they don't? It would be very hypocritical to say no, wouldn't it? Under a ""true"" Libertarian society, wouldn't it be impossible to do something to a Commie unless they try something first? Hoppe Libertarianism is simply mob rule, where the majority are assumed to make correct decisions. This is in line with the rest of Libertarians, where once again the people are assumed uncorruptable. Since the U.S has declined from a Libertarian society into the society we have now under a certain (((influence))), would that not be setting up a society to fail? It's utterly naive to think that people can't occasionally make wrong decisions, especially when regarding how things are dealt with politically. Would it not be better to have large, but not unrestrained, freedom, but also an ironclad government document which allows the ""physical removal of communists and leftists""?",,Anonymous,NatSoc def of Socialism.jpg,5mHlYCqCDKaxVgmKTCNzdQ==,US,,1491508380 119811907,119818413,2017-04-06 19:53:35,">>119817926 Thank soon i'll do a ron paul.",,Anonymous,HOPPE.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1491508415 119811907,119818659,2017-04-06 19:55:22,">>119817337 If you're not cool with mass surveillance, passive eugenics and tax money underwriting the ghettos you're seen as a Mr. Mean NeYo knotsie in their eyes. It's an abstract kind of Funhouse.",,Anonymous,1445487666272.jpg,Eu+OZvGVnEWXaHMnS8KFUQ==,US,,1491508522 119811907,119818846,2017-04-06 19:56:44,">>119818321 because communists are ideologically opposed to private property, and justify violence against us to ""end capitalism"". This is an example of agression and we feel it justifys self-defense or ""physical removal"", so to speak.",,Anonymous,1487041975527.jpg,WOXJhZNneX564LJE5Tn+Mg==,US,,1491508604 119811907,119819023,2017-04-06 19:58:05,">>119818413 I now collect libertarian pepes, never thought this would become reality",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491508685 119811907,119819224,2017-04-06 19:59:29,">>119818321 >why is this? In today's society, if someone started telling everyone they were making a bomb, started buying materials for doing such, and had a history of crime, odds are they would be arrested. Here, known communists would be arrested too, as intention to use force is in violation of the NAP along with the use of force, and communists use force to try and push their delusional theories. In short, communists will try to violate the NAP and have to be physically separated from the rest of society to prevent that, so to speak. >captcha contains 'road'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491508769 119811907,119819316,2017-04-06 20:00:17,">>119819023 fucking awesome",,Anonymous,Pepe.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1491508817 119811907,119819723,2017-04-06 20:03:28,">>119818289 Good point about McAffee. He's a perfect example of someone who is intelligent, well off due to his knowledge, and is well spoken as well. He's also got a good personality for tackling the campaign trail. Approaching politics with software and data is already something a lot of parties do, but never quite follow through on. A technocratic approach would be powerful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491509008 119811907,119819885,2017-04-06 20:04:44,">>119818846 >because communists are ideologically opposed to private property, and justify violence against us to ""end capitalism"". This is an example of agression and we feel it justifys self-defense or ""physical removal"", so to speak. That assumes all communists are violent, and thus would not be a viable excuse to ""remove"" them, because there are exceptions to this. Under the NAP, wouldn't you first have to have some kind of reasoning that someone would do you harm beyond ""they are a Communist?"" >>119819224 Same argument as above. https://pastebin.com/wV97RYQT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc pic and vid is for (((civic nationalists)))",,Anonymous,Blacks have never been successful.jpg,mxPpLOWK9KlW55R+jZh9PQ==,US,,1491509084 119811907,119819888,2017-04-06 20:04:47,"Libertarians need to do the hard work of running for city councils, state legislatures, etc if they every want to have a national presence. This is true of any minor party. It can't be done from the top downward.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491509087 119811907,119820558,2017-04-06 20:10:10,">>119814090 Physical removal would be self-defense. Every Antifa asshole I've talked with pretty much want a civil war. And they're proven themselves to be aggressors numerous times.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491509410 119811907,119820664,2017-04-06 20:10:58,">>119819888 Digits confirm. This has been a consistent problem with the Libertarian Party. They seem to be a collection of stooges that aren't actually elected to any position, except for a handful of them. They keep running for President anyways, though. They should focus their money and effort for a decade getting local positions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491509458 119811907,119821516,2017-04-06 20:17:09,">>119818659 Fuck man, I ignored the ride for a bit but I'm starting to wake up to it again. It boggles my mind sometimes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491509829 119811907,119821968,2017-04-06 20:20:40,">>119820558 >self defense Not until they personally harm you, no it's not. It's retarded to both be a Libertarian, and hunt down people based on ideology. You can't claim to leave people alone and want to be left alone while actively seeking and causing conflict. Under a society based on those principles, it's a ludicrous statement to make. And once more, when you are judged for murdering a man, do you honestly believe that most people would say you are justified in doing so ""because he was communist""? I would, but do you think that your community would? Libertarianism, once more, proves to be naive in thinking that most people are 100% rational machines.",,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,US,,1491510040 119811907,119822031,2017-04-06 20:21:10,">no sneks sad!",,Anonymous,dont tread on my wife.png,GASqj1gE3FW0Kf2gu/6xbw==,US,,1491510070 119811907,119822063,2017-04-06 20:21:24,">>119820664 The LP has only 146 elected officials in office nationwide.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491510084 119811907,119822160,2017-04-06 20:22:04,">>119819885 >That assumes all communists are violent. If they don't believe it is just to overthrow (with violent or coercive force) the capitalist system then they are not communists. Yes all communists advocate violence against us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491510124 119811907,119822322,2017-04-06 20:23:14,">>119811907 I'm making flags today. Here's yours.",,Anonymous,Libertarian.gif,l5UG9Q1uzM9YHHmjSlySUA==,US,,1491510194 119811907,119822389,2017-04-06 20:23:40,">>119821968 no retard coercion is threat and therefore and act of ""agression"" Ill point a gun at your head and say ""you cant defend yourself until i pull the trigger"" thats a childs understanding of libertarian principle. get removed cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491510220 119811907,119822539,2017-04-06 20:24:47,">>119822389 What will you do if communists buy some of the land surrounding your property?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491510287 119811907,119822772,2017-04-06 20:26:30,How do Hoppeans feel about NatLib (national libertarianism)?,,Anonymous,libertarian fascism flag.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,US,,1491510390 119811907,119822872,2017-04-06 20:27:13,">>119822539 What would you do if people who want to eradicate you surrounded the borders of your property?",,Anonymous,moly.jpg,wGhSc300rh76jObYAzMLFg==,US,,1491510433 119811907,119822998,2017-04-06 20:28:18,">>119822772 A dank and well memed ideology",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1491510498 119811907,119823030,2017-04-06 20:28:32,"Reporting in for memes. Thanks to burgerbro for providing the font for his memes.",,Anonymous,ancap mine.png,VeXoUUG3fuT7g7aPnmwFsQ==,SK,,1491510512 119811907,119823044,2017-04-06 20:28:36,">>119819885 Those who oppose the concept of property are subject to physical removal from the property covenant.",,Anonymous,libertarian crossroads snek.jpg,kOekY48LgWJheLGEsWd9gg==,US,,1491510516 119811907,119823145,2017-04-06 20:29:22,">>119822872 I would report them to the local brownshirts. Tell me, in detail, what you would do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491510562 119811907,119823197,2017-04-06 20:29:51,">>119811907 Don't tread on me Libertarian/pol Discord: https://discord.gg/TvUctU9",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491510591 119811907,119823333,2017-04-06 20:30:52,">>119814090 They do not believe in the NAP, they preach violence against anyone who ever owned anything, and they are a pain in the ass. Your country was never communist, so you wouldn't know. No other ideology has killed as many white people as communism.",,Anonymous,ancap vs ancom.png,FmClvLNTPCFropLM0ZC0zQ==,SK,,1491510652 119811907,119823506,2017-04-06 20:32:12,">>119822772 dumb meme shit. symbolism is fascist and not even nationalist, which would differ from nation to nation. step your game up newfag",,Anonymous,GettyImages-525373635.jpg,y5nr7wdktq4fLDTaY+GoSQ==,US,,1491510732 119811907,119823571,2017-04-06 20:32:41,">>119823044 >>119818321 >Under what authority do you have to say this? What if someone disagrees with how you use your rights? Do they have the right to ""physically remove"" you?",,Anonymous,1462479782324.png,3SXA9J6jzkymERL93niW3g==,US,,1491510761 119811907,119823743,2017-04-06 20:34:00,">>119823145 Me and my folks, well knowing about the threat of communists would have prevented them from occupying strategic positions in the first place, as I'm sure my neighboring covenants would do because they also own property and are threatened buy communists as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491510840 119811907,119823919,2017-04-06 20:35:15,">>119817223 >>119817266 >>119817314 The madman actually delivered. >>119773232",,Anonymous,kill a gommie for mommy.png,oLYnwtXLKvnn4Pg1EY20Sw==,SK,,1491510915 119811907,119824038,2017-04-06 20:36:06,">>119819885 >George Lincoln Rockwell wow, some faggot who offered literally nothing but petty racism. Shallow edgy joke party.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491510966 119811907,119824385,2017-04-06 20:38:46,">>119823743 >well knowing about the threat of communists >as I'm sure my neighboring covenants would do Once more assumes that people will make rational decisions and will think EXACTLY like you do. What if some ""neighboring covenants"" don't see it fit to get rid of the Communists simply because they are Communists? >>119824038 >reddit spacing >didn't watch video >naive >not an argument Libertarians on /pol/ summarized in one post.",,Anonymous,Libertarians.png,xZRxt3TOdF4lJeCxS6ej4g==,US,,1491511126 119811907,119824390,2017-04-06 20:38:49,">>119819885 >that pic Dude, we're not civic cucks. Trying to *le redpill xDD us with shit we already know is futile.",,Anonymous,hoppe costanza.png,pIgAdJvpGAMA/mdAZbYiDw==,SK,,1491511129 119811907,119824492,2017-04-06 20:39:33,">>119823571 The property covenant maintains that you should live by Hopppean philosophy. If you start opposing capitalism, then you're subject to removal. Hoppe says that basically there will be tons of small merc groups and private security guards hired to do things like this - also citizens themselves can remove you with force if they don't need help. If you don't like capitalism, why would you come to a property covenant region to begin with?",,Anonymous,ancap frog get the fuck off my property shotgun.png,p1uLlkVWdN4X+FZxgDil/w==,US,,1491511173 119811907,119824512,2017-04-06 20:39:39,">>119814331 >>119814407 >>119814680 >>119814786 >>119816868 >showing your cards Well I guess statists will just have to keep the state going if libertarians want to pick fights in a minarchist society... Btw tax day April 18th pay up chumps.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491511179 119811907,119824782,2017-04-06 20:41:39,">>119811907 bump board war gas the leddit Donald dick suckers",,Anonymous,1489540276367.png,Z119CT29ODP8UTKdmLFY0w==,CA,,1491511299 119811907,119824898,2017-04-06 20:42:25,">>119824385 >>not an argument I just posted an argument, that Rockwell isnt even political because he talks about nothing but race and is irrelevant and accomplished nothing. Stormshills are getting desperate. Its funny watching you try to argue as if your LARPing ways are in any way relevant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491511345 119811907,119824955,2017-04-06 20:42:52,I noticed a lack of Bastiat in the reading list. Menger as well.,,Anonymous,bastiat1c1a.jpg,R1IDtW3Wp0ITJqEpWLaWww==,US,,1491511372 119811907,119825039,2017-04-06 20:43:31,>>119824955,,Anonymous,bastiat1d.jpg,od2iFtDoXV5Cdock2pdCSg==,US,,1491511411 119811907,119825125,2017-04-06 20:44:07,">>119824390 This. >>119819885 I forgot to mention that Hoppean Libertarianism is de facto (subtly) white nationalist leaning. We're not cucks, and we realize that whites and some East-Asians are the most civilized races for maintaining a good libertarian society. Shitskins are naturally-Marxist and anti-individualist, and barbaric. Hoppe himself has defended immigration resctriction and traditional conservative culture, because he says it makes for the most stable society. Just because you're a ""libertarian"", that doesn't mean you have to condone or tolerate all lifestyles or people. The libertarian right to exclusion basically means that you and your white nationalist buddies can form your own white nationalist property covenant, and ban all niggers if you want to. pic related, Hoppe is redpilled",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann Hoppe exclusion in libertarianism.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1491511447 119811907,119825173,2017-04-06 20:44:25,>>119825039,,Anonymous,calvin coolidge inaugural.jpg,82wCgaW+gRh1xsVnTt0O7A==,US,,1491511465 119811907,119825181,2017-04-06 20:44:31,Physical Remawooval,,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo-old.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,US,,1491511471 119811907,119825205,2017-04-06 20:44:43,,,Anonymous,15439882_1191846204217030_6273201289761135272_n.png,BWNdCGlnMoK2IHkxyQ9Akg==,US,,1491511483 119811907,119825305,2017-04-06 20:45:24,">>119821968 >pic Libertarianism advocates for self-defense. Rothbard and later Hoppe started a conservative movement within libertarianism, going as far as to physically remove those who'd be a dead weight to their covenants. Hayek proposed a dictatorship transitional period, and Mises thanked fascism for keeping commies out of Europe. So no, we're not a bunch of delusional liberal cucks. We value life, liberty, and property, and hate anything that threatens them. Now about your point that freedom ""destroys"" us - only if you're inferior, and in that case, you deserve to be subordinate. Natural hierarchy arises from freedom of individuals' association - this can be applied to expelling degenerates from your communities as well. TL;DR - where the hell do you think you are?",,Anonymous,ancap tap.jpg,Im78nhpQ2Fz7mfuOeqsi6A==,SK,,1491511524 119811907,119825359,2017-04-06 20:45:46,>>119825173,,Anonymous,dflaw.png,6O/FsdnU7rgPlndVzKFxaA==,US,,1491511546 119811907,119825378,2017-04-06 20:45:53,">>119811907 >PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS lolno",,Anonymous,Hoppe fags aren't serious.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,US,,1491511553 119811907,119825415,2017-04-06 20:46:09,">>119824385 >Once more assumes that people will make rational decisions Covenant communities are based on contractual agreements and are hierarchical. They will have a leaders that will call the shots. they will organize military force as they see fit. At the end of the day your furher IS a person capable of making rational decisions. >What if some ""neighboring covenants"" don't see it fit to get rid of the Communists simply because they are Communists? Then our covenant would oppose them. likely non-violently until they themselves are violently opposed to our property rights.",,Anonymous,Natsoc_likes_to_be_pegged.png,mZfB7O9H1mG5HqUJqqr9rA==,US,,1491511569 119811907,119825481,2017-04-06 20:46:32,">>119822772 Based. You're basically us.",,Anonymous,hoppe free good.jpg,qDTiAVShIyjotVAQxfWVbA==,SK,,1491511592 119811907,119825635,2017-04-06 20:47:33,>>119825359,,Anonymous,eKq4E0.jpg,OKtBFOx1G+ivJvogtd+hAQ==,US,,1491511653 119811907,119825712,2017-04-06 20:48:09,">>119823145 >not killing them yourself and harvesting their organs Yeah, your ideology is too weak for /pol/.",,Anonymous,hoppe physical removalwave.jpg,FfZoTw/twNq8pqWl6cB2bQ==,SK,,1491511689 119811907,119825770,2017-04-06 20:48:36,">>119825415 >Covenant communities are based on contractual agreements and are hierarchical so basically, the world just ends up being what it is now already, with people forming countries. This entire idea is really dumb",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491511716 119811907,119825930,2017-04-06 20:49:40,>>119825635,,Anonymous,IMG_0465.jpg,2x0/nbHHRFWpC9URGwVJJA==,US,,1491511780 119811907,119826092,2017-04-06 20:50:44,>>119825930,,Anonymous,Liberalism in a nutshell.jpg,oDB/75geVYym5FOtHbWbug==,US,,1491511844 119811907,119826193,2017-04-06 20:51:24,>>119826092,,Anonymous,majority.jpg,ZP4VkpHdgEMjeKZeua5quA==,US,,1491511884 119811907,119826424,2017-04-06 20:52:58,>>119826193,,Anonymous,Peikoff - Coup d'ecole.jpg,z9T6Fu7FKaM35zG7UW6DcQ==,US,,1491511978 119811907,119826465,2017-04-06 20:53:18,">>119825712 Stop larping as a fascist, when in reality, you're just a degenerate who wants to be free to engage in hedonistic, society decaying acts without rules or punishment. IE: I don't care if society, culture, arts, etc burns to the ground so long as I can keep my crack den and Abraham tank. There's a reason why ancap memes were so over the top. It's because your childish anarchist world view is fucking ridiculous. Oh and one more thing. Stop disgracing Pinochet's legacy with your cringe worthy nonsense. Especially since he has nothing to do with it at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491511998 119811907,119826524,2017-04-06 20:53:43,">>119825770 yes but ""countries"" based on contractual agreements and not threats of violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491512023 119811907,119826787,2017-04-06 20:55:22,>>119826424,,Anonymous,recycledfalse.jpg,LRNv/LaO6nW1hFIJDkkr8Q==,US,,1491512122 119811907,119826791,2017-04-06 20:55:23,">>119824385 People who don't fight against communism don't deserve to live and as such shall too be genocided. Too bad, they could have lived, but alas. To adress your pic - that Aussie is too weak to be free. Wanting a boot on your neck just so that you won't succumb to degeneracy is laughable. We Hoppeans believe that if a person is not willing to better themselves, they do not deserve to get better, and if they are not willing to fight for liberty, they do not deserve liberty. Anybody who doesn't care about morals, community, culture, or his people, has no place in my covenant. Neither does a ""person"" who can't imagine life on their own - if such a word as ""their"" even applies to them.",,Anonymous,libertarian masterpost.png,N1a+QThhl0g8UaoaMc+JEw==,SK,,1491512123 119811907,119826967,2017-04-06 20:56:29,">>119826465 >Stop not being the strawman I think you are. Off yourself. If you don't want take our word on what we stand for then why even bother talking to us, faggot.",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1491512189 119811907,119827302,2017-04-06 20:58:58,">>119825378 >fascists How so? Killing commies does not violate the NAP. Also helicopters and physical removal are two different things, TRS.",,Anonymous,hoppe schwag.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,SK,,1491512338 119811907,119827346,2017-04-06 20:59:15,">>119826967 >If you don't want take our word on what we stand for then why even bother talking to us, faggot. Because you're like rats who spread around and shit up everything. And I'm sick to death of you shitting on the grave of a great man like Pinochet. You're literally no different from left wing anarchists. You think and behave like stupid immature children.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491512355 119811907,119827493,2017-04-06 21:00:09,>>119826787,,Anonymous,statist_rights.jpg,7Z7mQdde79AZ+aglQr7YDg==,US,,1491512409 119811907,119827727,2017-04-06 21:01:47,>>119827493,,Anonymous,Where Does Money Go.jpg,u5dIisGb/jDouWgRG9ejIQ==,US,,1491512507 119811907,119827782,2017-04-06 21:02:07,">>119827302 >Also helicopters and physical removal are two different things, TRS. >even though we make no distinction whatsoever so as to sucker in the gullible by appealing to a popular idea/meme It's no surprise that literally every ancap I've spoken with has been among the most dishonest people I've ever had a conversation with. They lie and use Alinsky tier tactics every time they open their mouths.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491512527 119811907,119827859,2017-04-06 21:02:39,">>119824492 >>119824385 What if you don't directly oppose Capitalism, but simply ""tolerate"" Commies? What will you do about your neighbors then? Remove them too? >>119825305 Self defense does nothing if people think something will be reasonable. It's subtle changes that people must be wary of as well. Going off of whatever most people ""feel like doing"" at the time is idiotic. How the hell do you think we got to where we are? >>119825415 >At the end of the day your furher IS a person capable of making rational decisions. Yes, but are all people, not just one, capable of relying only on self made ""covenants""? Why do you think everyone will have the same policies on everything? >Then our covenant would oppose them. likely non-violently until they themselves are violently opposed to our property rights. You're missing the point completely. If you act in a way that people think is unjust with no authority, then you'll only gain sympathy for the other side, causing more problems to pop up. You can't even agree on things like this! Take a look at this guy >>119826791 who ruins your entire argument. If someone who is too extreme is in the ""covenant"", other people will most likely distance themselves from their views. This gains more and more sympathy for the ""oppressed"" people, as it looks more and more as if they were removed for no reason. It looks to me like you'll be shooting each other before the Communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491512559 119811907,119827958,2017-04-06 21:03:15,">>119827346 >you're stupid and make things shitty. Thank you for stopping by, please fuck off now.",,Anonymous,Reds_Get_Out.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,US,,1491512595 119811907,119828070,2017-04-06 21:04:02,>>119827727,,Anonymous,1341275846688.jpg,g5kQ6LLyLP8syvoOVhhC8g==,US,,1491512642 119811907,119828261,2017-04-06 21:05:31,>>119828070,,Anonymous,1341634657418.jpg,Z7sh9mB6Vf0LkfN1De2UYg==,US,,1491512731 119811907,119828423,2017-04-06 21:06:44,>>119828261,,Anonymous,1343257385530.jpg,5OaHV3N8ExPJOhsqvE0K5A==,US,,1491512804 119811907,119828465,2017-04-06 21:07:04,">>119827958 >>you're stupid and make things shitty. Precisely. That's why you'll be treated no differently from the communists in any kind of ""war"". >please fuck off now. You need a safe space now too you drug addict degenerate?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491512824 119811907,119828542,2017-04-06 21:07:35,">tfw half of ""libertarians"" are thinly veiled ""helicopter"" ""nap doesnt apply to leftists"" fascists",,Anonymous,thanksgiving.jpg,SWqNMz2ZzZC7PHhognM2xw==,US,,1491512855 119811907,119828568,2017-04-06 21:07:45,>>119828423,,Anonymous,1343574672002.jpg,WkbHgIYvZOX9gpX9V6t61g==,US,,1491512865 119811907,119828737,2017-04-06 21:08:47,">>119826465 >fascist There's that word again. So let me lay it out for you in simple terms, you nigger. Hedonism and society-decaying acts devalue all around them. That calls for physical removal. If culture and such burns to the ground elsewhere and there is anyone out there (including me) who liked that culture, that Abrams tank will come in handy while dealing out punishment to those who destroyed it. Crack dens are degenerate and repulse people, thus the only place where they would survive would be the criminal containment zones, a.k.a. ground zero for biological weapons' tests. Your view of the government as your third dad is even more childish than what you perceive anarcho-capitalism to be, because it literally creates dependency by threat of force on a larger entity - kind of like a child to a parent, except that you get molested twice as much and instead of spanking you get put in jail. Grow up. Pinochet has more to do with AnCap than you might think, after all, he hired the Chicago boys to do his economy, bringing about the Miracle of Chile - how unsurprising, from a capitalist perspective, to see people subject to free competition thrive. How about you stop putting up strawmen of us and get butthurt when we knock them down? How about you stop subjecting people to your retardation? How about you stop posting and wonder where the hell did your life go so wrong? Your existence is a good argument against democracy, for Christ's sake.",,Anonymous,hoppean removal now.jpg,d9GFGY1Y+gt+6L78F2Xijg==,SK,,1491512927 119811907,119828764,2017-04-06 21:09:01,>>119828568,,Anonymous,1344373373889.jpg,+gdxXStStUv/vMmBGyUIiQ==,US,,1491512941 119811907,119828791,2017-04-06 21:09:11,">>119828542 They're a bunch of crack smoking degenerate retards who's idea of ""physical removal"" is just relocating a commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491512951 119811907,119829027,2017-04-06 21:10:40,>>119828764,,Anonymous,1346910608640.jpg,JyIi2GOBPE+j6d0ZCo1Gsw==,US,,1491513040 119811907,119829168,2017-04-06 21:11:28,">>119828465 Get fucked faggot. you got fucking rekt and are chimping out. I hope niggers rape your waifu.",,Anonymous,McGas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1491513088 119811907,119829227,2017-04-06 21:11:52,">>119826524 >not threats of violence. >DUDE HELICOPTERS AND PHYSICAL REMOVAL! Anarchist do this shit all the time. They break everything down and then just build up and even worse/more totalitarian government. Its fucking dumb. left wing anarchist do this same shit where their stateless society ends up becoming Stalin tier in a few more seconds into the conversation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513112 119811907,119829379,2017-04-06 21:12:51,>>119829027,,Anonymous,1347006100682.jpg,xOYDs91y4KNrcb2eB5smvg==,US,,1491513171 119811907,119829447,2017-04-06 21:13:18,">>119827782 Helicopters - means of disposing of dead communists, or people who want you dead and actively pursue that goal. Physical removal - act of kicking degenerates out of your covenant/property/community because their mere presence is a loss to everyone else. Got it?",,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,MVVu/61rpkMBL22/BuuFcQ==,SK,,1491513198 119811907,119829573,2017-04-06 21:14:01,">>119828737 >Crack dens are degenerate and repulse people And would entirely allowed by your insipid ideology. You say otherwise? Now you're a fascist. Your mental gymnastics are why you're not taken seriously by anyone except your fellow cult members to your pederast van driving looking (((Hoppe))) faggot. >How about you stop telling the truth about us and get butthurt when we make up excuses? Fixed. >>119829168 You even behave like an angsty teenager. Thank God no one takes you degenerate aspies seriously.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513241 119811907,119829607,2017-04-06 21:14:16,>>119829379,,Anonymous,1347007900422.jpg,zevDySSkmwgN7o+lXR0Hyg==,US,,1491513256 119811907,119829613,2017-04-06 21:14:18,">>119829227 Communists aren't entitled to occupy our property. Making them fuck off is just and doesn't require a coercive molopoly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513258 119811907,119829679,2017-04-06 21:14:44,">>119828542 Poe's law strikes again.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491513284 119811907,119829701,2017-04-06 21:14:59,">>119811907 If this image triggers you then youre not libertarian Lol no",,Anonymous,1491527264400.jpg,+eGU5dlIQvRu4grjAPya/w==,US,,1491513299 119811907,119829813,2017-04-06 21:15:41,">>119828791 i'm a minarchist but if someone claims to be an ancap while claiming that solely holding leftist beliefs is somehow an act of physical aggression (cf. thought crime) i'm sorry but i have to disagree",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513341 119811907,119829880,2017-04-06 21:16:05,>>119829607,,Anonymous,1347235031447.gif,twYVF5nIvvmbd5UL6bxJIQ==,US,,1491513365 119811907,119829902,2017-04-06 21:16:13,">>119829447 >Helicopters - means of disposing of dead communists Not the way Pinochet did it. Whom you use. But who cares for things like integrity or honesty. No one needs that. Everything is relative.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513373 119811907,119829975,2017-04-06 21:16:33,">>119827859 We got to where we are by strong individuals with ideas building society. In Slovakia, we got to where we are (shit) by voting for big government. Take your pick. Also, I'm well aware of subtle changes, I've seen that Bezmenov interview and the infographics. What makes you think your authoritarian friends won't put you against a wall and shoot you? It certainly did happen to the SA.",,Anonymous,hoppe solvent.jpg,qZ/sjPZt+hKZ6xjhucjmhw==,SK,,1491513393 119811907,119830100,2017-04-06 21:17:21,">>119829613 >. Making them fuck off is just and doesn't require a coercive molopoly. So in other words, you want to set up an authoritarian regime that uses force on those who disagree with the state?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513441 119811907,119830140,2017-04-06 21:17:34,>>119829880,,Anonymous,1351969361525.png,oK4lgmIuUIWw/gYKOdJoYg==,US,,1491513454 119811907,119830307,2017-04-06 21:18:21,>>119830140,,Anonymous,1352089250044.png,Ay94k/OZJnMgab++Pj3aPw==,US,,1491513501 119811907,119830345,2017-04-06 21:18:32,">>119828542 you ""libertarians"" that think non-agression means pacifism disgust me. Real fascists and communists are a threat to my liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513512 119811907,119830395,2017-04-06 21:18:51,">>119824385 The Aussie in your image is wrong. We care politically about property, because when humans are truly free from state interference and their property being threatened (either via the government or by others), then they become intellectually free. Think about how much more people could do if they weren't always worried about the government shitting down their throat for a small misstep. The principles of Libertarianism speak of a world were a citizen is free to do whatever they please (as long as it doesn't violate the NAP), which includes art, community, and having morals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513531 119811907,119830488,2017-04-06 21:19:18,Look pol an undocumented mexican getting paid,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513558 119811907,119830501,2017-04-06 21:19:21,">>119829813 Holding leftist beliefs should be thought crime. That includes most leftist ideals and values. Communists should be exterminated and crushed like worms. Ancaps are dumbasses whom no one takes seriously so they're not even a threat. They just annoy me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513561 119811907,119830582,2017-04-06 21:19:49,">>119811907 I read Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell. Somewhat recommend reading it. It does pretty much eternally btfo keynesian faggots",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513589 119811907,119830609,2017-04-06 21:19:56,">>119829813 most ancaps are just edge lords with no real convictions anon. I dont think these guys realize what the root word of Libertarian is.",,Anonymous,GadsdenFlag.jpg,XDqd2wM4txFN6A5wR1odqA==,US,,1491513596 119811907,119830616,2017-04-06 21:19:58,>>119830307,,Anonymous,1353103151761.jpg,C5ZS07YRdrIAuWvP67Ea+w==,US,,1491513598 119811907,119830624,2017-04-06 21:20:00,">>119827859 There's a reason why people surround themselves with like-minded people, what makes you think this would not apply to the communities? If degenerates form up into a community, they will fall apart and either die or resort to violence to get their necessities. That means you can send in a voluntary RWDS to destroy what's left and call it a day. Ta-da, and nobody was forced to do anything by anyone.",,Anonymous,removalwave.jpg,/WRO6gqlnYLNXyMFFReCaw==,SK,,1491513600 119811907,119830630,2017-04-06 21:20:02,">>119830100 Like I said. Mental gymnastics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513602 119811907,119831287,2017-04-06 21:23:14,">>119828542 >fascists My boot will taste like heaven after I free you from the gulag, lolbergarian cuck. If you don't fight against commies, they will prevail, just remember that. And we have priorities as far as saving people goes.",,Anonymous,NUKE THOSE WHO INSULT ROTHBARD.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,SK,,1491513794 119811907,119831293,2017-04-06 21:23:16,>>119830616,,Anonymous,1354479046567.jpg,jN27lIWkMHtVNwsnIqn3qg==,US,,1491513796 119811907,119831332,2017-04-06 21:23:28,">>119830345 >Real fascists and communists are a threat to my liberty. Your ""liberty"" is literally what ALLOWS communists and leftists to destroy and subvert everything. Know why? Because you don't have order. You don't put your foot down. You don't enforce standards. You just wave your stupid fucking yellow flag and screech about snakes. Which you ultimately are anyway so at least it's fitting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513808 119811907,119831378,2017-04-06 21:23:41,">>119811907 Is there a libertarian Discord?",,Anonymous,1490846058229.jpg,7OwGzgfK5n36uS1G9K33Gw==,US,,1491513821 119811907,119831500,2017-04-06 21:24:19,">>119830395 >because when humans are truly free from state interference and their property being threatened (either via the government or by others), then they become intellectually free. This is as delusional as utopian ""revolutionaries"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513859 119811907,119831528,2017-04-06 21:24:26,">>119811907 Fuck off.",,Anonymous,LibertarianismIsJewish.jpg,B9SqshDMkcPy4ksjovurSw==,US,,1491513866 119811907,119831574,2017-04-06 21:24:38,>>119822772,,Anonymous,Libertarian_Fascism.jpg,/mqJs1pvBIhO5PPXTxNpzA==,US,,1491513878 119811907,119831595,2017-04-06 21:24:43,>>119831293,,Anonymous,1357441516494.jpg,nECbXYh3ivhgclW5EDjypg==,US,,1491513883 119811907,119831857,2017-04-06 21:25:55,">>119831332 >your lack of centralized power is what causes centralized power to exist!",,Anonymous,1024px-Weihaiwei_surrender.jpg,+zB9rvmGWcpgY5mbdt2UQA==,US,,1491513955 119811907,119831863,2017-04-06 21:25:57,">>119830501 >>119830630 >>119831332 You're fucked, again you're thinking im some allepo johnson voting faggot. you're knowledge of my philosophy is based on memes and redditors second-hand information.",,Anonymous,fuck.png,GV8cJqYI+PQ8K3WD7f35kw==,US,,1491513957 119811907,119831944,2017-04-06 21:26:21,">>119831293 Anarchists allied with the communists during Spanish Civil War. Also the same ones allying with the communists now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491513981 119811907,119832016,2017-04-06 21:26:41,>>119831595,,Anonymous,1359909204499.png,4Bf5PUMQ7/okvl1sqWvyvw==,US,,1491514001 119811907,119832321,2017-04-06 21:28:02,">>119831944 Good point. I might have to update that one. >>119832016",,Anonymous,1360380317201.jpg,DhqW3nS8Geexfou1MA/WVQ==,US,,1491514082 119811907,119832416,2017-04-06 21:28:22,>>119832321,,Anonymous,1360380362003.jpg,w2IwjGF3HxlIifSKynK+zg==,US,,1491514102 119811907,119832449,2017-04-06 21:28:33,">>119831857 Where in the bloody fuck did I say that? >>119831863 >again you're thinking im some allepo johnson voting faggot. No I don't. I think you're stuck between ""muh liberty"" and fascism and don't know where to go. >you're knowledge Your. You illiterate monkey cunt. >of my philosophy is based on memes and redditors Because that's all it is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491514113 119811907,119832492,2017-04-06 21:28:46,"TRUMP ATTACKED SYRIA DEMOCRACY IS A LIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,hoppe was right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1491514126 119811907,119832645,2017-04-06 21:29:26,>>119832416,,Anonymous,1361247756174.jpg,pTY6sSeXMR573bzDinrS+g==,US,,1491514166 119811907,119832895,2017-04-06 21:30:37,">>119832492 Friendly reminder (((Hoppe))) is a libtard and has never removed anyone or done anything. Just like every ""ancap"". Which is one of the many many reason why you're endlessly mocked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491514237 119811907,119832918,2017-04-06 21:30:42,>>119832645,,Anonymous,1361596355300.jpg,7FFnFgmR8HoHiFJH6rJeSA==,US,,1491514242 119811907,119833438,2017-04-06 21:32:48,">>119829573 >allowed No. Anyone who wants to build a crack den is a degenerate not to be trusted, and that reputation sticks. He'll get kicked out of any even slightly prosperous covenant and whoever takes him in deserves what's coming for them. I'm not a fascist; I value hierarchy formed by voluntary association. Nuke those who insult Hoppe the commie-dropper. The only van he'll be driving is the one that takes down the fucking Murrah Federal Building and other monstrous perverse monuments to the atrocity that is the state. >truth You wouldn't know truth if it kicked you in the chin. You think a strong government makes strong people? I bet North Koreans would be delighted to hear that. Strong people are made up of strong individuals, and having to work for oneself is what makes a person strong. Are you afraid of working for yourself, faggot? If not, you'd ditch your failure of an ideology and uncuck yourself. If so, that doesn't surprise me. Your skin is the only redeeming factor about you, and judging from your flag, there's still a 37% chance I'm wrong.",,Anonymous,best meme.jpg,lJW8vuXsono6mSgQO69M/g==,SK,,1491514368 119811907,119833480,2017-04-06 21:32:56,>>119832918,,Anonymous,1362476785836.png,sXWfdkqaXx3kUIok8dJ6WA==,US,,1491514376 119811907,119833678,2017-04-06 21:33:43,>>119833480,,Anonymous,1354588928161.png,y8eAPQZcbV+gbltM5gOKQA==,US,,1491514423 119811907,119833928,2017-04-06 21:34:46,">>119832895 >>119832449 you're embarrasing yourself. please stop.",,Anonymous,Butthurt.jpg,OOUCnmGMKK81fi+vpKspiQ==,US,,1491514486 119811907,119833959,2017-04-06 21:34:53,>>119833678,,Anonymous,1364356105598.png,iuaWHrrgEBoR4wIs7lyr+Q==,US,,1491514493 119811907,119834319,2017-04-06 21:36:15,>>119833959,,Anonymous,1365283823330.jpg,/aYt8crKj6ddQ6ctqpxBlA==,US,,1491514575 119811907,119834604,2017-04-06 21:37:21,>>119834319,,Anonymous,1365286757478.jpg,C8oGFUPhZ8HXD/bf5PWw6w==,US,,1491514641 119811907,119834659,2017-04-06 21:37:31,">>119831528 No.",,Anonymous,british gadsden snek.png,8qrY7AT3qV81b8uirt+m7A==,SK,,1491514651 119811907,119835029,2017-04-06 21:38:53,">>119831944 I think that post meant AnCaps, but I might be wrong.",,Anonymous,ancom cock.png,h0MML8AF42Xx5yWITbz40w==,SK,,1491514733 119811907,119835766,2017-04-06 21:41:45,>>119834604,,Anonymous,1368303561286.jpg,naSCzsY8x80L/L//NniFwg==,US,,1491514905 119811907,119835980,2017-04-06 21:42:32,">>119833438 >Anyone who wants to build a crack den is a degenerate not to be trusted Well now you've switched from lolberdarian/ancap to fascist. >Nuke those who insult Hoppe the commie-dropper Hoppe has never ""dropped"" anyone. He's a pseudo intellectual who looks like a pederast. >You wouldn't know truth if it kicked you in the chin. This is literally like a communist saying the nationalist is evil. >You think a strong government makes strong people? Strong people make strong governments. You fear any kind of governance because you don't want rules or standards to be enforced. Well. Except by you of course. Because you want to remove druggies and commies. Which makes you a fascist but who needs truth or honesty when you're a soulless rat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491514952 119811907,119836095,2017-04-06 21:42:58,">>119811907 WW3 starting soon. Get your freedom rifles for the post apocalypse. We can sieze the opportunity to set up a glorious anarcho-capitalist utopia in the fallout of the fallen nations.",,Anonymous,1455743154121.png,bjVooDeDqUg+JDaImjH3Tw==,US,,1491514978 119811907,119836254,2017-04-06 21:43:29,">>119833928 >PLEASE STOP I NEED MY SAFE SPACE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491515009 119811907,119836330,2017-04-06 21:43:44,>>119835766,,Anonymous,1368447678401.jpg,HqFwdvPva7DUrFpl/ibsDg==,US,,1491515024 119811907,119836526,2017-04-06 21:44:24,">>119836095 >We can sieze the opportunity to set up a glorious anarcho-capitalist utopia Voila. No different from the communist revolutionaries.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491515064 119811907,119837031,2017-04-06 21:46:16,">>119836526 KEK holy shit, hold on lemme get a screeshot together, this the is the same premise someone at /nsg/ was telling me was nessescary to install national socialism. stay put.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491515176 119811907,119837119,2017-04-06 21:46:35,>>119836330,,Anonymous,A pirates life for me.png,bqG23idqGdv+BU7U6wA7Hw==,US,,1491515195 119811907,119837250,2017-04-06 21:47:03,"Hey Guys, got a new Libertarian Discord. https://discord.gg/ATpCM",,Anonymous,1488656524608.jpg,pF6WyufhnWbG4lwzmmM8jQ==,US,,1491515223 119811907,119837896,2017-04-06 21:49:10,">>119835980 >fascist How so? There's not central government with a monopoly on the use of force. >pederast That's projection. >truth Face it. Fascism has a poor track record of successes which are outweighed by failures. >strength Strong people don't need a government. I want to enforce standards on my property alone and within my covenant shared among other property owners, but there's free competition among covenants and thus the state is non-existent.",,Anonymous,hoppeart.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,SK,,1491515350 119811907,119838114,2017-04-06 21:49:56,">>119819885 >That assumes all communists are violent, All comunists are violent. There is no way to implement communism without forcefully appropiating someone elses property, and that in itself justifies their removal from society.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491515396 119811907,119838214,2017-04-06 21:50:20,">>119836526 >>119837031",,Anonymous,BTFO.png,3EyMzZCv6VtJLXTWQTBxaA==,US,,1491515420 119811907,119838425,2017-04-06 21:51:04,>>119837119,,Anonymous,entitled.jpg,35oJC8HZqHLe+CP0nFEGJw==,US,,1491515464 119811907,119839002,2017-04-06 21:52:57,>>119838425,,Anonymous,Feynman.png,wwZBR32W1Zs8TK1JWZ1JYw==,US,,1491515577 119811907,119839058,2017-04-06 21:53:10,">>119836526 Want to explain how? Not advocating terrorist rebel regimes. Not advocating violence. Make a joke on a Mongolian shadow puppet and people take you seriously.",,Anonymous,wew.jpg,G9KtHgxbnNBg6eDwjkeF1g==,US,,1491515590 119811907,119839272,2017-04-06 21:53:51,">>119811907 bump because at least it isn't TOTALLY fucking stupid shill ""drumpf"" threads like 9/10 of them right now",,Anonymous,borders.png,9xTB7/AiqBRPhMBHYKaBwQ==,US,,1491515631 119811907,119839361,2017-04-06 21:54:09,>>119839002,,Anonymous,FuckyeahCapitalism.png,1UEIRiKRPCBslIyQzjrfEQ==,US,,1491515649 119811907,119839719,2017-04-06 21:55:12,">>119839272 fuck off this isn't r/the_donald.",,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1491515712 119811907,119839793,2017-04-06 21:55:25,>>119839361,,Anonymous,How Government Solved the (first) Healthcare Crisis.png,ToJnpEms2s4wNkpzgsgrqQ==,US,,1491515725 119811907,119839938,2017-04-06 21:55:56,Democracy is a lie. AnCap is the philosophy of the future.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491515756 119811907,119840025,2017-04-06 21:56:11,">>119837896 >There's not central government with a monopoly on the use of force. Have you ever read some Giovanni Gentile? No of course not. >That's projection. Most pedophile mugshots you see look just like that fag. Well when they're not fat with mustaches. >Face it. Fascism has a poor track record of successes which are outweighed by failures. But anarcho capitalism has an astounding one amirite. Oh wait. >Strong people don't need a government And what keeps a country together? A few ""decent"" selfish people who only give a shit about property? Oh wait. You don't want a country or nation or state. You want Mad Max tier shit. >>119838214 I'm not NatSoc but that is precisely how Hitler rose to power. Germany was in the gutter with unbearable poverty and unemployment. Hitler essentially performed a legal coup from the former leader (OVB) to form a new government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491515771 119811907,119840398,2017-04-06 21:57:17,>>119839793,,Anonymous,libor.jpg,GeTP2zRWqy4gwxiYbXIrxQ==,US,,1491515837 119811907,119840505,2017-04-06 21:57:36,">>119839361 >cosmopolitan >not reactionary 6/10 sorry bud.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491515856 119811907,119840543,2017-04-06 21:57:45,">>119839058 >Not advocating terrorist rebel regimes ""Physical removal"". >Not advocating violence. Helicopters. You are like them because you're delusional in your ""utopian"" views.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491515865 119811907,119841089,2017-04-06 21:59:30,">>119840398 >>119840505 That one was done about 4 years ago. I am pretty sure if I took it again I would be much more reactionary and militaristic.I keep it cause I managed 101% capitalism",,Anonymous,Milk of the Vine.jpg,c1lxqff971JhDOn0PafNZQ==,US,,1491515970 119811907,119841186,2017-04-06 21:59:53,">>119839058 Oh and no one takes you seriously. I would say more actually take the communists seriously (as a threat and as a political ideology) than you. You just fucking annoy me is all. I already know half of the ""ancaps"" here will grow up eventually and mature into something better. Lolberdarianism/ancap is usually just a bridge between ideologies and philosophies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491515993 119811907,119841934,2017-04-06 22:02:10,>>119841089,,Anonymous,sameolsameol.jpg,0d5NgQUTivq3s7RjSIhwQQ==,US,,1491516130 119811907,119842249,2017-04-06 22:03:15,">>119839793 That picture's tale is disgusting. The free market had truly created a situation that was excellent, but the government shit on the free market. The current state of insurance is an example of such garbage. I get good affordable care through the negotiation my employer makes, but if I had no work provided healthcare, I would be ruined. A fraternity of people negotiating rates for their community would be an excellent solution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491516195 119811907,119843443,2017-04-06 22:06:46,>>119841934,,Anonymous,were right get over it libtards.jpg,0vjN8rzVfdMjLkUBDkp2mA==,US,,1491516406 119811907,119843662,2017-04-06 22:07:31,">>119843443 >>119842249 It only gets worse.",,Anonymous,what happens when government is in charge of healthcare.gif,JCkxCfoC+dpLEz3LNGNcnA==,US,,1491516451 119811907,119844160,2017-04-06 22:09:01,>>119843662,,Anonymous,zappa.jpg,9sZ9Xn6sHFPpWpqmEHoMcg==,US,,1491516541 119933247,119933247,2017-04-07 07:38:50,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - TOMAHAWK MISSILES Edition,Anonymous,ancap squad_00000.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1491550730 119933247,119933311,2017-04-07 07:39:34,,,Anonymous,1487039083508.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,PT,,1491550774 119933247,119933417,2017-04-07 07:40:21,"HOPPE READING LIST: >Articles by Hans-Hermann Hoppe https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/hans-hermann-hoppe/ >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economics%20and%20Ethics%20of%20Private%20Property%20Studies%20in%20Political%20Economy%20and%20Philosophy_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline https://mises.org/system/tdf/A%20Short%20History%20of%20Man%20%E2%80%94%20Progress%20and%20Decline.pdf?file=1&type=document >Democracy - The God That Failed http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism https://mises.org/system/tdf/Theory%20of%20Socialism%20and%20Capitalism%2C%20A_4.pdf?file=1&type=document >From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy https://mises.org/system/tdf/From%20Aristocracy%20to%20Monarchy%20to%20Democracy_Hoppe_Text%202014.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Myth of National Defense: Essays on the Theory and History of Security Production https://mises.org/system/tdf/Myth%20of%20National%20Defense%2C%20The%20Essays%20on%20the%20Theory%20and%20History%20of%20Security%20Production_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Private Production of Defense https://mises.org/system/tdf/The%20Private%20Production%20of%20Defense_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Economic Science and the Austrian Method https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economic%20Science%20and%20the%20Austrian%20Method_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >What Must Be Done https://mises.org/system/tdf/What%20Must%20Be%20Done_7.pdf?file=1&type=document >>119933311 endorsed by Kek Himself",,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1491550821 119933247,119933469,2017-04-07 07:40:52,,,Anonymous,rothbard pepe background.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,PT,,1491550852 119933247,119933535,2017-04-07 07:41:27,,,Anonymous,mises pepe background.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,PT,,1491550887 119933247,119933998,2017-04-07 07:45:47,">>119933469 (((Rothbard)))",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491551147 119933247,119934004,2017-04-07 07:45:50,">>119933247 I can get behind this. Too bad globalism has a complete stranglehold on American politics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491551150 119933247,119934106,2017-04-07 07:46:37,At last I truly see. Ancap is the only way. It will never happen but wanting any gov't at all is fucking retarded. Especially with one as loaded it's corruption as US.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491551197 119933247,119934382,2017-04-07 07:49:00,">>119933998 Putting echoes around Rothbard is like putting echoes around Roy Cohn or Bobby Fischer.",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1491551340 119933247,119934515,2017-04-07 07:50:21,">>119933247 Thanks for making a thread m8",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1491551421 119933247,119935364,2017-04-07 07:57:33,">>119934382 This, Rothbard is based, /ourjew/ and should be shown some respect.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491551853 119933247,119935880,2017-04-07 08:01:57,">>119933247 Any better ideas for the newest meme ?",,Anonymous,..jpg,XjO+wv1ikMFwKDUL/Kusqg==,BG,,1491552117 119933247,119936389,2017-04-07 08:06:27,"What happened. The good old days where Libertarians and Natsocs debating. Now all the real Natsocs have left to 8 and libertarians are seen as a meme.",,Anonymous,1464681594727.jpg,iF8ht95qb/HdpSr6XDs3lg==,NZ,,1491552387 119933247,119936749,2017-04-07 08:09:54,I-I'm sorry Ron ;_;,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491552594 119933247,119936981,2017-04-07 08:11:58,">>119934515 and thank you for that OC What do you guys think about Trump attacking Syria? I'm disappointed desu famiglias.",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1491552718 119933247,119937006,2017-04-07 08:12:07,">>119936389 It's a damn shame I don't know if it's shills trying to divide /pol/ or if ""NatSoc"" genuinely sees libertarianism as a threat to them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491552727 119933247,119937162,2017-04-07 08:13:29,">>119935880 I don't think Trump is an AnCap",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491552809 119933247,119937231,2017-04-07 08:14:04,"communists should be gassed but you are as bad as communists, ideologically",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1491552844 119933247,119937257,2017-04-07 08:14:18,">>119936981 Im not surprised. The state wages war at our expense. I think we all knew shit would be like this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491552858 119933247,119937569,2017-04-07 08:16:56,">>119937231 Whatever Mount Nigger. >>119937257 Indeed. Looks like he threw that whole ""America First"" thingy out the window and has reverted to neo-con kike shit. Hopefully he realizes the backlash (since he's all about the ratings) and GTFOs off Syria. But let's face it, you guys are going to war. >One almost wishes that Saddam Hussein would be back, that Gaddaffi would be back; that Assad would somehow regain power in Syria and so forth",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1491553016 119933247,119937665,2017-04-07 08:17:42,">>119937231 You'd rather live in a communist society than a libertarian one?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491553062 119933247,119937704,2017-04-07 08:18:02,">>119937162 Well ,I don't thik you are german too.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1491553082 119933247,119938033,2017-04-07 08:21:01,">>119937704 I actually am",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491553261 119933247,119938176,2017-04-07 08:22:18,">>119937665 >>119937231 both are awful for the ones at the bottom of the hierachy at least in the libertarian society it's more likely that most people the bottom also deserve to be there",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491553338 119933247,119938341,2017-04-07 08:23:51,">>119937006 natsoc was made by (((them))) white racist cant reconcile this so they hide in corners where no one brings this up. Ancap is the only answer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491553431 119933247,119938446,2017-04-07 08:24:48,"Why does everyone pretend its anarchy or nothing? Why do us Minarchists get no love.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1491553488 119933247,119938580,2017-04-07 08:25:55,">>119933247 Reporting in for Hoppe slamming his head against a desk. Assad is a literal saint compared to Saddam or Qaddafi, and even those goys were the keys to balance in their respective regions.",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1491553555 119933247,119938695,2017-04-07 08:26:54,">>119937231 mfw why waste money on gassing commies when you literally can just let them starve.",,Anonymous,1327629918882.gif,qhn0MFr7jrKGe7kOzgr0ZQ==,US,,1491553614 119933247,119938713,2017-04-07 08:27:02,">>119933998 He's more based than you are.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491553622 119933247,119938732,2017-04-07 08:27:14,">>119934382 >(((Rothbard))) in his defense, Hoppe said in some roundtable discussion that he was a self-hating Jew",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491553634 119933247,119938851,2017-04-07 08:28:15,">>119938732 they all are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491553695 119933247,119938993,2017-04-07 08:29:28,">>119938446 You do my brother. The difference between a minarchist and an anarchist is a year of reading kek. But you're welcome anyways <3 >>119938732 I believe Rothbard was about to convert to Christianity before he got the ol' switcheroo in the brain.",,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,PT,,1491553768 119933247,119939060,2017-04-07 08:30:04,">>119934106 Take the yellow pill, brother.",,Anonymous,ancap corruption.jpg,Nd7VnLeYI390dqCXjQD0Fg==,SK,,1491553804 119933247,119939278,2017-04-07 08:31:57,">>119938732 >he was a self-hating Jew the best kind t. half descended from vile sneaky semites",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491553917 119933247,119940108,2017-04-07 08:38:52,,,Anonymous,ron rand lrg.jpg,GGj/N/x9Ht/PrOnGNejW6w==,AU,,1491554332 119933247,119940640,2017-04-07 08:43:07,">>119940108 Quality oc, I've got a Ron pepe on a timelock to be released in a few hours.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491554587 119933247,119940777,2017-04-07 08:44:16,"""I am one chicken tendie short of becoming a full on nazi"" Every single thread. Y'all are clowns",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1491351015054.jpg,M8JNaaAUzoCkqpNyFhLK7A==,US,,1491554656 119933247,119940791,2017-04-07 08:44:22,">>119940640 based",,Anonymous,you talkin to me.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,PT,,1491554662 119933247,119941332,2017-04-07 08:48:51,">>119933247 Tomahawks are shit. Konashenkov said “the combat efficiency of the US strike was very low,” adding that only 23 of the 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles reached the Shayrat air base in the province of Homs. He said it destroyed six MiG-23 fighter jets of the Syrian air force which were under repairs, but didn’t damage other Syrian warplanes at the base. Konashenkov added that the base’s runway also has been left undamaged. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live?page=with:block-58e76adee4b05776df18b741#block-58e76adee4b05776df18b741",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491554931 119933247,119941381,2017-04-07 08:49:15,Bump,,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491554955 119933247,119941413,2017-04-07 08:49:30,">>119940777 Go ahead, try and take my tendies. See what happens.",,Anonymous,moly.jpg,wGhSc300rh76jObYAzMLFg==,US,,1491554970 119933247,119941747,2017-04-07 08:52:31,>>119941332,,Anonymous,1490448658309.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,AU,,1491555151 119933247,119942107,2017-04-07 08:55:35,who /christian/ here,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491555335 119933247,119942176,2017-04-07 08:56:13,">>119942107 None",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491555373 119933247,119942582,2017-04-07 09:00:12,">>119941332 >the state is so ineffective even its own military fucks things up with technology",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1491555612 119933247,119942742,2017-04-07 09:01:40,">>119942107 self-hating atheist here >tfw want to believe in Christ but no evidence to back it up",,Anonymous,nick land.gif,9QNJHrDShg7/A4cFQOH8rw==,PT,,1491555700 119933247,119942785,2017-04-07 09:02:03,">>119942107 Sorry mate, they have some decent aspects to their morals. But the Jew on a stick thing is wack.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491555723 119933247,119943037,2017-04-07 09:04:16,>>119942785,,Anonymous,VAeA885.jpg,ZsChmZD4dzRESpuHP+AWhQ==,AU,,1491555856 119933247,119943211,2017-04-07 09:05:55,">>119933247 BEST LIBERTARIAN SHOW THERE IS. Latest episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXwmsJe2ea4 Includes Syria etc",,Anonymous,jsp.jpg,B+R6Z5Gy6ysKSEylpj98ug==,NL,,1491555955 119933247,119944638,2017-04-07 09:17:07,">>119942582 >has glasses >no nose to hold them ancapists conifrmed dumb-dumbs BTFO",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1491556627 119933247,119944668,2017-04-07 09:17:20,">>119943211 I'm actually starting to like to that guy. Better than that Rubin guy. But Christopher Cantwell and Moly are still my favorites.",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1491556640 119933247,119944864,2017-04-07 09:18:44,">>119944668 Christopher Cantwell is great, definitely /our guy/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491556724 119933247,119945008,2017-04-07 09:19:44,">>119934106 How do you keep foreign governments from conquering you if you get rid of your own government?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491556784 119933247,119945495,2017-04-07 09:22:59,">>119933247 bump",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491556979 119933247,119946004,2017-04-07 09:26:13,">>119945008 no state apparatus to attack. they'd have to target private citizens, private property and, I speculate, private defense companies spread out through the territory. There would have to be a massive campaign on the ground to go to every person's door and take them hostage or whatever. There could be a backlash by the attacking state's citizenry against aggressing an otherwise peaceful land and also because of the economic costs of the war effort. Regardless, the citizens of the free territory would not be unarmed. See pic related and the book if you still aren't convinced.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1491557173 119933247,119946066,2017-04-07 09:26:36,">>119945008 Well it'd be pretty stupid to just randomly invade a place you're likely trading with, and people could still form militias/ or various covenants/ voluntary microstates could form defensive coalitions to stop the threat.",,Anonymous,quote-japan-would-never-invade-the-united-states-we-would-find-a-rifle-behind-every-blade-isoroku-yamamoto-138-86-58.jpg,h24o9JekJHhRu8trdZWTDA==,GB,,1491557196 119933247,119946435,2017-04-07 09:29:03,bumppp,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491557343 119933247,119946648,2017-04-07 09:30:27,">>119944638 Does ancap ball need a nose to hold his glasses? No. The market has provided anti gravity glasses for the noesless demand for eyewear",,Anonymous,AncapBall.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1491557427 119933247,119948997,2017-04-07 09:45:41,">>119944864 What's the deal with Cantwell getting pulled from jewtube? Does he stream on anywhere else?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491558341 119933247,119950411,2017-04-07 09:54:03,bump,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491558843 119933247,119950566,2017-04-07 09:54:56,">>119948997 I don't know anything about something happening to his channel, but you can get his podcast here https://christophercantwell.com/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491558896 119933247,119952617,2017-04-07 10:06:56,"open Hoppe threads pay attention to Hoppe posts replay to Hoppe posters",,Anonymous,1490017224769.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,DE,,1491559616 119933247,119952671,2017-04-07 10:07:15,">>119933247 bumperino",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491559635 119933247,119952756,2017-04-07 10:07:44,">>119950566 Thanks, yeah I think he still uploads to YouTube but he isn't allowed to do it live there anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491559664 119933247,119954877,2017-04-07 10:20:06,">>119945008 Private defence",,Anonymous,helicaptcha.jpg,E+5kbYI5rcyC2ex8mvlheg==,AU,,1491560406 119933247,119955417,2017-04-07 10:23:16,">>119954877 >everyone paying for their own gun can totally take on a 21st century military with tanks, drones, cruise missiles, and nukes",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491560596 119933247,119955673,2017-04-07 10:24:48,">>119939060 who enforces property laws and contracts if there is no government?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491560688 119933247,119955743,2017-04-07 10:25:07,">>119955417 more like >everyone paying for their own tanks, drones, cruise missiles, and nukes",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491560707 119933247,119956838,2017-04-07 10:31:47,">>119955743 what about the less fortunate who can't afford a tank? what do they do when their neighbour decides to roll in and take their shit?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491561107 119933247,119956933,2017-04-07 10:32:15,bump,,Anonymous,removal.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,DE,,1491561135 120022676,120022676,2017-04-07 16:59:52,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, Agorism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc So /pol/ what are you doing to secure a free and prosperous future for yourself?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: AnarchoKek 2.0 edition.,Anonymous,Mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,BR,,1491584392 120022676,120022750,2017-04-07 17:00:14,">>120022676 GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491584414 120022676,120022832,2017-04-07 17:00:41,,,Anonymous,ancap squad.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,BR,,1491584441 120022676,120022980,2017-04-07 17:01:38,What would you libertarians do to solve Visa abuse?,,Anonymous,h1b.png,Wz6nxea7eophn2C0Cz3Hrg==,US,,1491584498 120022676,120023535,2017-04-07 17:05:16,,,Anonymous,C.jpg,NOz3my0RjlB6U20v5+kK1w==,BR,,1491584716 120022676,120023829,2017-04-07 17:07:06,,,Anonymous,heh_watch_this.jpg,rBF7cWX1BUmM/d+m4Y0ddg==,ES,,1491584826 120022676,120023952,2017-04-07 17:07:53,">>120022980 could you give me a quick rundown? is it just that people are overstaying their term? deport them. if they don't belong here they can fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491584873 120022676,120023971,2017-04-07 17:08:03,">>120023535 I hope you die of aids",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491584883 120022676,120024028,2017-04-07 17:08:26,">>120022980 Stop handing out visas",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491584906 120022676,120024106,2017-04-07 17:08:56,"https://discord.gg/h773TJA Until they complete a violent revolution Libertarians are and will always be cucks of the state.",,Anonymous,1472912273598.gif,6hvNJovR6zMUROGP80S3vQ==,GB,,1491584936 120022676,120024388,2017-04-07 17:10:53,">>120022980 All immigration becomes immigration by invitation. Since aliens don't pay taxes, they have no sovereign claim on the country's public property. Their sponsors must fully finance their stay, accommodation and use of public goods. Sponsors are held liable for any crime their invitees commit during their stay, and criminal activity, i.e. aggression against property owners, grants immediate expulsion from the country for the alien and a fine/jail sentence for the sponsor depending on the seriousness of the crime.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491585053 120022676,120024526,2017-04-07 17:11:52,">>120024106 Agorism are the ninjas cucks? >>120022980 Quick rundown?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491585112 120022676,120024711,2017-04-07 17:12:51,">>120023535 muito bueno",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491585171 120022676,120025242,2017-04-07 17:16:12,"I notice these threads tend to 404 a lot and don't come up for a long time. Anyone think we could do with a per-thread discussion topic to keep some sort of posting happening? I suppose the topical subject here: What does everyone think of the false flag attack and Trump's actions? (I'd say the Swedish attacks, but this is a daily occurrence by now)",,Anonymous,9xyupvlyp1qy.jpg,UMXdpQUdADoxqYKPI2/ovQ==,GB,,1491585372 120022676,120026739,2017-04-07 17:25:43,">>120025242 first nice image, whats the deal with the false flag? it was rebels who are behind the attack and the news is blaming it on assad? wheres the sauce on that? Anyway, unless trump is playing 4d chess obviously we shoulda stayed out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491585943 120022676,120027987,2017-04-07 17:33:16,It's here! I've been staying away from the PDF but now IT'S TIME.,,Anonymous,IMG_20170407_173054.jpg,C2hp05oTG5lRMBo3nLGzpg==,US,,1491586396 120022676,120028174,2017-04-07 17:34:35,">>120027987 BASED Have fun anon! And get ready for the redpillest ride you'll ever be on. First half is black pill, second half is red pill.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491586475 120022676,120028388,2017-04-07 17:35:56,">>120028174 Kek, right on. I will report back with my review when I'm done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491586556 120022676,120028497,2017-04-07 17:36:43,">>120027987 I've been working my way through this too (the PDF, sadly).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491586603 120022676,120029308,2017-04-07 17:41:53,">>120027987 Definitely worth waiting for a physical copy, also it's good to support the man himself.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491586913 120022676,120029548,2017-04-07 17:43:23,I almost forgot I've got a another based pepe to deliver! Lemme get to my PC,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491587003 120022676,120029610,2017-04-07 17:43:49,,,Anonymous,Paul.png,Q5Y0QbDs2BtXd2yKEMoZ/Q==,US,,1491587029 120022676,120029814,2017-04-07 17:45:01,">>120023535 Is anarcho a synonym for edgy?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491587101 120022676,120029975,2017-04-07 17:45:58,">>120029814 yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491587158 120022676,120030365,2017-04-07 17:48:34,">>120029814 >>120029975 Oh wow you're right youve convinced me, Heil Hitler :^)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491587314 120022676,120031946,2017-04-07 17:58:49,">>120025242 Well the board is in total chaos right now and threads are sliding to 404 pretty hard right now. People want to discuss current events, and not politics. This is why we need to bring back /new/, while also keeping /pol/ Shit just gets too messy on here.",,Anonymous,1491207899672.png,Wn3qPwZ1llzuwwvsIDp+HA==,US,,1491587929 120022676,120033045,2017-04-07 18:06:31,">>120028388 Amazing. Looking forward to your opinion on it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491588391 120022676,120033300,2017-04-07 18:08:02,">>120029610 make him wear a blazer man pls otherwise, 10/10",,Anonymous,1442623-1-L.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,PT,,1491588482 120022676,120034041,2017-04-07 18:13:27,">>120031946 BRAAAAAAPPP",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491588807 120022676,120034700,2017-04-07 18:17:58,>>120033300,,Anonymous,Blazeit.png,dzL9HP3dX/ac5oh+xXADMQ==,US,,1491589078 120022676,120034803,2017-04-07 18:18:40,"Did you faggots finally realize there was only one candidate who was fit to be President? >>120023535 Faggot.",,Anonymous,-1x-1.jpg,+zsgOttgG+o3d6JbnEwmSQ==,MK,,1491589120 120022676,120034917,2017-04-07 18:19:29,>>120033300,,Anonymous,Blazeit.png,zMhssj5tJBFC/qQDwsVZRw==,US,,1491589169 120022676,120035194,2017-04-07 18:21:14,">>120029610 >>120034917 Mind if l save these, friendo? (: You can have a Freedom gif in return.",,Anonymous,tPOyTmo.gif,NPixlv/tVKPOjp0/E/tEKQ==,MK,,1491589274 120022676,120035373,2017-04-07 18:22:27,">>120034917 amazing. thank you. Will add to my Pepe collection.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491589347 120022676,120035522,2017-04-07 18:23:22,,,Anonymous,Friedman.png,XMc+yAZJhBMiiFkQhvuYXw==,BR,,1491589402 120022676,120035574,2017-04-07 18:23:40,">>120022676 bump",,Anonymous,hoppe.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,DE,,1491589420 120022676,120035818,2017-04-07 18:25:14,">>120035194 go ahead, its all yours.",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(3).png,8NmmFqEDnFZ5ThLIrXXYUQ==,US,,1491589514 120022676,120035823,2017-04-07 18:25:15,,,Anonymous,Hayek.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,BR,,1491589515 120022676,120035927,2017-04-07 18:25:50,Paul/Amash ticket when?,,Anonymous,screen-shot-2015-05-04-at-5-27-44-pm.png,KC3DRuVjCqHDewM+zfML1w==,MK,,1491589550 120022676,120036180,2017-04-07 18:27:27,">>120022676 Dumb, but still better than a T R U M P F A G general",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491589647 120022676,120036704,2017-04-07 18:30:49,">>120035823 amazing holy shit",,Anonymous,hoppe 80s.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,PT,,1491589849 120022676,120036926,2017-04-07 18:32:10,,,Anonymous,rand.png,I0m72rH2uDq7+gfqYipWrQ==,BR,,1491589930 120022676,120037425,2017-04-07 18:35:27,">>120036926 Is there a Rand pepe?",,Anonymous,,,MK,,1491590127 120022676,120037966,2017-04-07 18:38:51,">>120037425 YES!",,Anonymous,Rothbard2.png,94+p+lp9r6D75wsCfwqEfw==,BR,,1491590331 120022676,120038174,2017-04-07 18:40:09,">>120037425 i will make more, i thought molymemes would be a good pick.",,Anonymous,1488752319484.jpg,CqIC18Eh7/OI6pdEeY2W5Q==,US,,1491590409 120022676,120038796,2017-04-07 18:44:09,">>120034041 There isn't even an ass in that pic",,Anonymous,1488682663171.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,US,,1491590649 120022676,120038870,2017-04-07 18:44:30,">>120036926 That ginger hair has to go, if someone wants to do a better job than me though I get it, I rushed this",,Anonymous,Ayn Rand.png,p3N5rin9aWoeRuwS3NGSXg==,GB,,1491590670 120022676,120039110,2017-04-07 18:46:00,">>120023535 Fuck you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491590760 120022676,120039444,2017-04-07 18:48:05,">>120022676 Without zoning laws and regulations, what prevents me from building a chemical factory right in the middle of a residential neighborhood, thus ruining property values for everybody else and filling their homes with smog 24/7?",,Anonymous,how-to-prevent-factory-pollution_3a1a5bbe368c023f.jpg,W5mVSOH3h3TpRczJDTp7zg==,US,,1491590885 120022676,120039813,2017-04-07 18:50:28,">>120039444 the persons who were already there could sue you for property damages against their health and their homes.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491591028 120022676,120039956,2017-04-07 18:51:23,">>120039813 >Sue >In a world with no legal system",,Anonymous,1491007571768.jpg,bzq6gX1OXB5qnFgSnY8DWA==,US,,1491591083 120022676,120039966,2017-04-07 18:51:27,">>120039444 Good luck finding any locals willing to work there, also why would anyone who lives there be willing to sell you land which you'll use to harm them or their neighbours?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491591087 120022676,120040458,2017-04-07 18:54:32,Who else /Minarchism/ ?,,Anonymous,6ijiWH5M.jpg,mph/ssPerxf6S5KrMcFwBg==,GB,,1491591272 120022676,120040515,2017-04-07 18:54:50,">>120039966 >Good luck finding any locals willing to work there Why do I need locals? I'll just import cheap labor from elsewhere. >why would anyone who lives there be willing to sell you land which you'll use to harm them or their neighbours? Simple. Just buy the land but don't tell anybody what you're going to do with it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491591290 120022676,120040553,2017-04-07 18:55:04,">>120039956 >implying there is no legal system Look up polycentric law.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491591304 120022676,120040573,2017-04-07 18:55:11,">>120025242 Pretty broken with proliferate desu.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491591311 120022676,120040904,2017-04-07 18:57:24,">>120040553 >Polycentrism is the principle of organization of a region around several political, social or financial centres. Examples of polycentric cities include the Ruhr area in Germany, Stoke-on-Trent in the UK and the San Francisco Bay Area in the United States. These ""cities"" have no single centre, but several. Other examples are Randstad in the Netherlands, Berlin in Germany (due to separation of the city by the Berlin wall) and the Gold Coast in Australia. WTF does this have to do with anything that we were talking about?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491591444 120022676,120041025,2017-04-07 18:58:15,">>120031946 Faaaaaap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491591495 120022676,120041120,2017-04-07 18:59:00,">>120040904 Not polycentricism. Polycentric LAW. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycentric_law",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491591540 120022676,120041289,2017-04-07 19:00:06,">>120041025 Becareful where you tread dude. chicks with bangs like that ALWAYS have a dick.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491591606 120022676,120041405,2017-04-07 19:00:55,">>120040515 Ok, now you have to also buy land and finance the building of a place to house all this ""cheap labour"". Also paying to bring them in, feed them, etc Sure you could do it, but it'd be so much cheaper to not actively antagonise locals you'd only be doing this purely for the sake of being diabolical. Something most richfags aren't motivated by despite popular misconceptions.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491591655 120022676,120041456,2017-04-07 19:01:14,">>120041289 Good Looking Out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491591674 120022676,120042268,2017-04-07 19:06:25,">>120041120 I read it but it doesn't seem practical at all. At very least, it doesn't solve the problem any better than it has already been solved in the real world through zoning laws and regulations. And at worst, well its completely fictional and would result in utter chaos.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491591985 120022676,120042955,2017-04-07 19:10:30,">>120039444 The chemical pollutants you spew out are a violation of the rights of those around you. Either you must come up with a way of compensation or some type of agreement with the locals before you build the factory or risk lawsuits... or maybe just go somewhere this isn't a issue or invest in antipollution technology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491592230 120022676,120043225,2017-04-07 19:12:08,">>120042955 >lawsuits >In a society with no legal system B-but muh polycentric law.......",,Anonymous,1491588742729.jpg,BPkdninGRrLYMLpWrKnT8w==,US,,1491592328 120022676,120043861,2017-04-07 19:16:00,">>120041405 You realize this shouldn't be a difficult situation to deal with right? In real-life, the situation would never happy (at least not in the US) because the local government would never allow it to happen, and they would use zoning laws and regulations to prevent it from happening. It's a good system and it works.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491592560 120022676,120044332,2017-04-07 19:18:57,">>120023535 FFFUGG",,Anonymous,1484120213039.jpg,fU6MxcYvC3XUw0dTZp140g==,AU,,1491592737 120022676,120044608,2017-04-07 19:20:46,">>120043861 Except that it's a terrible system and while it may work for the most part in some regards it also causes all kinds of other problems and disincentivises potential competition/ innovation",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491592846 120022676,120044779,2017-04-07 19:21:52,">>120044608 >Zoning laws are a terrible system! >Can't come up with any better system",,Anonymous,s4dTtBy.jpg,rvHGDaxbyOUhhuLyq76EiQ==,US,,1491592912 120022676,120045757,2017-04-07 19:28:22,">>120044779 Well now you're just being disingenuous. I've answered you're questions sufficiently and your reply is essentially just >nuh uh, the shit we have now is actually really good I didn't ""come up with"" a better system no, but I'm clearly advocating for a different one otherwise you wouldn't have started this exchange in the first place. I'm not wasting my time anymore, you can consider this another internet argument you ""won"" if you want.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491593302 120022676,120045791,2017-04-07 19:28:34,"Minarchist here with a question for ancaps. What happens in a society with no central government when young children of parents decide to enter contracts/make life changing decisions when they are too young/stupid to understand the repercussions? If the state doesn't exist to enforce some sort of arbitrary adult age, won't kids just fuck themselves up?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491593314 120022676,120046302,2017-04-07 19:32:03,">>120045757 >Well now you're just being disingenuous. No, I'm not. >I've answered you're questions sufficiently Posting a link to a wikipedia article and expecting me to read all of it and agree with every word isn't really an answer. As far as I can tell, this ""polycentric"" law is completely theoretical. It has no basis in real-world fact.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491593523 120022676,120046811,2017-04-07 19:35:34,">>120045791 As someone who considers myself a minarchist of sort, I believe it is not necessarily the role of the state to determine what a parents will do with his child. But I also believe it's one of the area in which libertarianism generally does not really offer clear cut rules. The system is mostly designed from the point of view of people having reached ""the age of reason"".",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491593734 120022676,120047698,2017-04-07 19:42:02,">>120023535 If YOU don't reply to this post you will get ass cancer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491594122 120022676,120047827,2017-04-07 19:42:55,">>120046811 >leaf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491594175 120022676,120047884,2017-04-07 19:43:20,">>120022676 >Not even trying to fight back Christ you guys are low energy today. Statists win again.",,Anonymous,1491598354795.jpg,rH2HGLuyyYqmYTwvnLVzCw==,US,,1491594200 120022676,120047892,2017-04-07 19:43:23,"I'm really interested in the notion of time preference ever since reading the first parts of ""GTF"" from Hoppe. >... A is the period before the beginning of the action; >A is the point in time at which the action begins; >AB is the period during which the action occurs; >B is the point at which the action ends; >B ... is the period after the end of the action. >AB is defined as the period of production—the period from the beginning of the action to the time when the consumers’ good is available. >A fundamental and constant truth about human action is that man prefers his end to be achieved in the shortest possible time. Given the specific satisfaction, the sooner it arrives, the better. This results from the fact that time is always scarce, and a means to be economized. The sooner any end is attained, the better. Thus, with any given end to be attained, the shorter the period of action, i.e., production, the more preferable for the actor. This is the universal fact of time preference. https://mises.org/library/man-economy-and-state-power-and-market/html/p/896",,Anonymous,time.png,GZ/K5y6AQGWtdZeD1QJOIg==,CA,,1491594203 120022676,120048302,2017-04-07 19:46:18,">>120045791 there's three approaches the first is that the state can properly defend the vulnerable as part of their core duty, within reason of course the second is making children property in the vein of dogs, but obviously not under the same standards, only insofar as the government can intrude upon your property interest so far the third is an absolute freedom of the parents to do as they wish, and the state nor anyone else has the right to intrude, this might include something like a right to murder, but could be more limited like the first",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491594378 120022676,120048328,2017-04-07 19:46:29,">>120047892 >Time enters into human action not only in relation to the waiting time in production, but also in the length of time in which the consumers’ good will satisfy the wants of the consumer. Some consumers’ goods will satisfy his wants, i.e., attain his ends, for a short period of time, others for a longer period. They can be consumed for shorter or longer periods. This may be included in the diagram of any action, as shown in Figure 2. This length of time, BC, is the duration of serviceableness of the consumers’ good. It is the length of the time the end served by the consumers’ good continues to be attained. >Clearly, all other things being equal, the actor will prefer a consumers’ good of greater durability to one of lesser, since the former will render more total service. On the other hand, if the actor values the total service rendered by two consumers’ goods equally, he will, because of time preference, choose the less durable good since he will acquire its total services sooner than the other. Not sure about that last statement concerning the less durable goods.",,Anonymous,period of production and consumption.png,FZc3OHnwh8cfiZBW2BEiVw==,CA,,1491594389 120022676,120049250,2017-04-07 19:52:59,">All action is an attempt to exchange a less satisfactory state of affairs for a more satisfactory one. The actor finds himself (or expects to find himself) in a nonperfect state, and, by attempting to attain his most urgently desired ends, expects to be in a better state. He cannot measure the gain in satisfaction, but he does know which of his wants are more urgent than others, and he does know when his condition has improved. Therefore, all action involves exchange—an exchange of one state of affairs, X, for Y, which the actor anticipates will be a more satisfactory one (and therefore higher on his value scale). If his expectation turns out to be correct, the value of Y on his preference scale will be higher than the value of X, and he has made a net gain in his state of satisfaction or utility. If he has been in error, and the value of the state that he has given up—X—is higher than the value of Y, he has suffered a net loss. This psychic gain (or profit) and loss cannot be measured in terms of units, but the actor always knows whether he has experienced psychic profit or psychic loss as a result of an action-exchange. I find it interesting that you can deduce the law of marginal utility from the simple supposition that people have option ranking for options.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491594779 120022676,120049564,2017-04-07 19:55:15,">>120025242 The generals definitely require something topical about them, some item of discussion in which an Austrian framework of analysis is used. Otherwise the thread just dies.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491594915 120022676,120050050,2017-04-07 19:58:36,yeah we need a litte somthing to get us going when we don't have new conent to share.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491595116 120022676,120050108,2017-04-07 19:59:04,">>120050050 *content",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491595144 120112269,120112269,2017-04-08 05:35:00,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - BRING IT ON MOTHERFUCKER Edition,Anonymous,1490695309130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,DE,,1491629700 120112269,120112320,2017-04-08 05:35:40,,,Anonymous,1490967261162.jpg,dmi4qDdBSomYbolpW2dZ/w==,DE,,1491629740 120112269,120112368,2017-04-08 05:36:26,,,Anonymous,1490914594067.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,DE,,1491629786 120112269,120112463,2017-04-08 05:37:37,,,Anonymous,1490567525137.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,DE,,1491629857 120112269,120112514,2017-04-08 05:38:09,,,Anonymous,1490713184063.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,DE,,1491629889 120112269,120112673,2017-04-08 05:40:29,">b-but Gary Johns... Shut it you low energy fag. We ain't some retarded 420 blaze it faggots. We want liberty and the responsibility that goes with it.",,Anonymous,1490567419484.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,DE,,1491630029 120112269,120113030,2017-04-08 05:45:33,">b-but somalia a-and warlords ??? Gotta read that shiet https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over https://mises.org/library/anarchy-somalia Somalia is the corpse of a fucking socialist state and it's better off now than before it collapsed.",,Anonymous,1490781850330.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,DE,,1491630333 120112269,120113180,2017-04-08 05:47:53,">>120112269 bump",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491630473 120112269,120113185,2017-04-08 05:47:55,le discord army is here XDDDDD,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491630475 120112269,120113192,2017-04-08 05:48:00,BUMP,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491630480 120112269,120113588,2017-04-08 05:53:02,">b-b-but .. ROADS ! If there's a need for roads, they're going to be built by private construction companies, payed by covenants and maintained my said construction companies. They even generate money, because it's like that parts or the road are for rent in order to set up advertisements at the sides. Or there's no need for roads, because we're the fucking gyrocopter master race",,Anonymous,1490899978119.jpg,ZSNHj0m/ztlQmcVBKzdS7A==,DE,,1491630782 120112269,120113805,2017-04-08 05:55:48,">>120113588 Or how do you think roads are built today ?",,Anonymous,1490736157031.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,DE,,1491630948 120112269,120114004,2017-04-08 05:58:58,me too,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491631138 120112269,120114006,2017-04-08 05:59:00,"bumping with snek >>120113805 I hope you have a license for that road, citizen.",,Anonymous,1491633278702.png,VGPj/a6MdX3hwL1Y3tlevw==,GB,,1491631140 120112269,120114166,2017-04-08 06:01:04,">>120114006 How could I have not ?",,Anonymous,1491037144436.gif,En4w89ZgogsndLKV/ufc1g==,DE,,1491631264 120112269,120114271,2017-04-08 06:02:47,Hey guys,,Anonymous,roads-01.jpg,U4V8A+jpx+3qGdq4t+tPjg==,MT,,1491631367 120112269,120114435,2017-04-08 06:04:52,">>120114271 How're you doin' ? Hope you're keeping it Hoppe breh",,Anonymous,1490567655144.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,DE,,1491631492 120112269,120114734,2017-04-08 06:09:17,Kek is on our side,,Anonymous,1490566300880.png,mLfQNRljK6sT++d9BhGRag==,DE,,1491631757 120112269,120115258,2017-04-08 06:16:41,,,Anonymous,1490713534644.jpg,XnweBGBJLV0zaU1eNKLVyw==,DE,,1491632201 120112269,120116094,2017-04-08 06:28:05,,,Anonymous,1490842977425.png,UwEgI5kjnW5UGhN24uroJA==,DE,,1491632885 120112269,120116278,2017-04-08 06:30:29,">>120112673 >Shut it you low energy fag. We ain't some retarded 420 blaze it faggots. We want liberty and the responsibility that goes with it. Based. Thanks for making a thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491633029 120112269,120116697,2017-04-08 06:35:35,">>120116278 At your service",,Anonymous,1491143256238.png,ZGIA75579yhg6xAyhnjMrQ==,DE,,1491633335 120112269,120116873,2017-04-08 06:38:09,">>120112269 I gotta say germanbro Im impressed. >b-but Gary Johns... >b-but somalia a-and warlords ??? >b-b-but .. ROADS ! Your posts earned a spot in the pastebin",,Anonymous,AnarchistGadsden.png,YB/46et2ZZC+7S0LzOEFsA==,US,,1491633489 120112269,120117040,2017-04-08 06:40:11,">>120116873 Glad I'm able to help spreading the liberty",,Anonymous,1490844652609.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,DE,,1491633611 120112269,120117082,2017-04-08 06:40:43,">>120115258 Ayy",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491633643 120112269,120117301,2017-04-08 06:44:00,We can Make the World Great Again,,Anonymous,SnekKekPek.jpg,wmHXRjHNU5UTwMs2vcZZhw==,US,,1491633840 120112269,120117357,2017-04-08 06:44:41,">>120117082 Waddup",,Anonymous,marxSCREECH.jpg,r+R1HDIdRAW8ZuoTy8O4sw==,DE,,1491633881 120112269,120117437,2017-04-08 06:45:41,">>120113588 what about natural commodities like gold, oil, etc etc ?",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1491633941 120112269,120117438,2017-04-08 06:45:42,"Finally, a thread to my liking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491633942 120112269,120117581,2017-04-08 06:48:03,">>120117437 What about them? If they have value there will be a market for it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491634083 120112269,120117744,2017-04-08 06:50:14,">>120117437 If you mean ""natural resources"", first come first served so to speak. And if already on property - owned/claimed land - then they belong to the landlord, because no1 else is allowed to mine/drill/whatever on there. But that doesn't mean there wouldn't be opportunities to harvest it. See gold miners today. They, too, work for the landlords and pay him a part of the gold they find for rent and keep the rest. There's nothing shady about it. Basically it would go about as it does today, more or less, but without any regulations or bureaucratic hurdles",,Anonymous,1490701280054.jpg,m769DbLW/1/65BkRh/IEvA==,DE,,1491634214 120112269,120117997,2017-04-08 06:53:48,,,Anonymous,ron rand lrg.jpg,GGj/N/x9Ht/PrOnGNejW6w==,AU,,1491634428 120112269,120118107,2017-04-08 06:55:23,>>120114734,,Anonymous,C2iM7cwUcAAqZ4Z.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,ES,,1491634523 120112269,120118154,2017-04-08 06:56:05,">>120117581 >>120117744 so there's no nationalism in ancap yeah ?",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1491634565 120112269,120118330,2017-04-08 06:58:10,">>120118154 Well you could form a nationalist type community and structure things as you see fit among your own people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491634690 120112269,120118582,2017-04-08 07:01:03,">>120118154 it's anarchy...",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491634863 120112269,120118591,2017-04-08 07:01:09,does anyone have a meme ball style trump ball?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491634869 120112269,120118686,2017-04-08 07:02:09,">>120118330 no i mean no 'national pride' like cultural attachment to the country ?",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1491634929 120112269,120118707,2017-04-08 07:02:21,">>120118154 The sentiments behind nationalism... >understanding the tribalist sense of a group, discriminating agents which differents are a inherent threat for the tribe ...are also present on ancapias, but not trought political dimensions, but trought voluntary cooperation of private agents/and individuals The problems all ideologies face are somewhat the same, ancaps just handle them without being delusional, arrogant about his not knowns and megalomaniac. The same way as society handles anything that doesn't happen on the terrain of politics, where things work out fluidly in win/win relations. Ancaps just want to push everything to that moral domain.",,Anonymous,heh_watch_this.jpg,rBF7cWX1BUmM/d+m4Y0ddg==,ES,,1491634941 120112269,120118727,2017-04-08 07:02:31,">>120118154 And why wouldn't that be ? Communities are infact not as big as ""nations"" but does that mean you let go everything to shit ? Not, of course not. You care for yourself, your family, your surrounding people and ultimately for your covenant, because if something is massively fucked up, then you cannot prosper. Another thing is, you can set up any system on your property/covenant (as long as all agree 100%). That includes radical nationalism, too. Prerequisite is only that you'll not violate the NAP, i.e. not spread your shit against the will of the ""receivers"" (contrary to today) and you don't become aggressive, e.g. as national (((socialism))) or communism or even islam for that matter. That means you do what you want, but the moment you're becoming expansionist and aggressive, you'll receive the recreational nukes",,Anonymous,1490817995643.jpg,tvKv0no9/a6+XBeHyHKi9Q==,DE,,1491634951 120112269,120118763,2017-04-08 07:02:57,">>120117997 Senator Paul is like the only Senator that respects the constitution. John McCain can go fuck himself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491634977 120112269,120118946,2017-04-08 07:05:44,">>120118686 Maybe not the ""country"" since there is not centralized state, but for you own community you sure can. I have some nationalist tendencies myself, ancap allows our kind.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491635144 120112269,120119067,2017-04-08 07:07:17,">>120112673 >>120112673",,Anonymous,1490542452328.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,DE,,1491635237 120112269,120119634,2017-04-08 07:14:30,Bump,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1491635670 120112269,120119705,2017-04-08 07:15:20,">>120118946 yeah, I'm really tribalist for other fellow ancaps too tfw no irl ancap friends even less chances for a qt ancap gf why live",,Anonymous,TWaAsAO.jpg,EhuCsP7MKL/fgd2ju0Cm+A==,ES,,1491635720 120112269,120119832,2017-04-08 07:16:55,">>120112269 >Pinochet >ultra authoritarist Kill yourself stupid OP You're a fucking Kremlin bot and you should get gassed",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491635815 120112269,120119947,2017-04-08 07:18:12,">>120119705 People are fed the >le ebin capitalism commie meme and they fully adapted. Sad! >>120119832 >memes are reality breh a nice argument got there. Really looking forward to have a nice discussion ....",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1491635892 120112269,120120065,2017-04-08 07:19:34,"Small L libertarian IRL. This thread seems a little off kilter to me. A little too much /pol/ taste to be libertarian to me. Libertarianism isn't inherently an cap or even strictly right leaning. I personally lean only slightly right. I find it easy to validate certain things such as environmental regulation. The government can only take away, but when a profit seeking company does something like pollute, that steps on the property (and often health) rights of individuals or other entities. It's easy in my mind to validate regulation when the benefits of a specific regulation to society are greater than the net outcome of the free market alternative (i should note that this is an extremely rare occurrence) I disagree very strongly with the earlier sentiment that libertarians are against immigration. In fact that goes strongly against neoclassical economic principles of the free market. I would even take it a step farther and say that if you support building a wall and deporting because ""babby little bitch boi"" needs the state to take care of you by protecting your jobs, you're worse than a fucking socialist. You cry about lefties wanting 15$/hr, but what you're asking for is worse. You want the government to create an artificial deprevation of labor supply in the market to protect YOUR job. You are literally asking for government subsidization of Americana labor so it can compete with cheaper, more effective use of resources labor. But in the process, you denied an entire group of people civil/ personal liberties to do it. Free markets means free movement of labor to seek the demand. End of story. If course you can use the search principle I talked about in regulation, but I am confident that the free market benefits of free movement of labor outweigh the negatives proposed, by far. Also, seriously fuck taxes. >9k in federal 2016, didn't even work all year >well over 2k to state this year since I bought a vehicle Christ that's a fuck ton of my money",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1490104529387.jpg,nspgGgwbMNvRyc9n0ECBSw==,US,,1491635974 120112269,120120194,2017-04-08 07:21:09,">>120119947 >People are fed the >le ebin capitalism >commie meme and they fully adapted. Sad! who are you replying?",,Anonymous,t.jpg,XP4a2eW/2tWo0bE67/xwIg==,ES,,1491636069 120112269,120120278,2017-04-08 07:22:01,">>120120194 It's a general remark",,Anonymous,1490574097993.png,xrpudr8YYVD3YlC4rB7E6w==,DE,,1491636121 120112269,120120465,2017-04-08 07:24:17,what about military defense ?,,Anonymous,,,ID,,1491636257 120112269,120120609,2017-04-08 07:25:51,">>120120065 You don't understand the point. Ancaps and real libertarians are nowhere near anti-immigration per say - provided they're not some crypto nazi shit. We're against open borders and what goes with it - free movement of criminals etc. Have this quote for understanding: ""Accordingly, population movements, unlike product shipments, are not per se mutually beneficial events, because they are not always-necessarily and invariably-the result of an agree- ment between a specific receiver and sender. There can be shipments (immigrants) without willing domestic recipients. In this case, immi- grants are foreign invaders and immigration represents an act of inva- sion."" Hans-Herman Hoppe, Democracy - The God that Failed, pp. 161",,Anonymous,1490721588544.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,DE,,1491636351 120112269,120120689,2017-04-08 07:26:52,">>120118154 Yes, because nations will still exist. Governments will still exist too, they'll just be funded freely, existing through contracts and voluntary agreements. If we as a society reject aggression and condemn it as a crime, everyone will have the right to create their own nations with their own land. Countries will decentralise and competition will permeate throughout society. Anarcho-capitalism isn't a policy or a political system, it's a rejection of aggression as a legal function of government. We believe it should be illegal for a small group of people to physically control others and take their resources.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491636412 120112269,120120807,2017-04-08 07:28:11,">>120120065 >I disagree very strongly with the earlier sentiment that libertarians are against immigration. In fact that goes strongly against neoclassical economic principles of the free market. I would even take it a step farther and say that if you support building a wall and deporting because ""babby little bitch boi"" needs the state to take care of you by protecting your jobs, you're worse than a fucking socialist. You cry about lefties wanting 15$/hr, but what you're asking for is worse. That is the most retarded and unreflected shit I've ever read.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491636491 120112269,120120988,2017-04-08 07:30:22,">>120120065 Though it may be an interesting intersection on/pol/ now that I think about it. Pol is notoriously fucking retarded beyond belief, and just as subject to the group think as others. Perhaps this oddly aggressive idea of libertarianism, like suggested here >>120119067 is an acclimation technique to plant the seeds of liberty in the mind of pol? ""Appear to have common ground so as to bring them open to discussion on these thoughts""? Or maybe I'm just a Noam chomsky tier cuck :^) >>120120609 Interesting. I don't agree with it at all, as if things were truly free and open they'd realize real quick that the labor market isn't open to them and move else where. I'd be open to reading some more on it though. I should note I'm a bit of a baby libertarian. Probably going on 2-3 years now. >>120120807 Nice constructive break down breh",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1489605129340.jpg,+z3R5pv7L606GDoI1Rg7QQ==,US,,1491636622 120112269,120121046,2017-04-08 07:30:56,">>120120689 but if there's no national/cultural attachment (something collectivist) then how is the military defense gonna be strong and dedicated ? the only reason someone is willing to die in a war is because he has a deep national/cultural attachment to the country and the people (collectively) right ?",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1491636656 120112269,120121147,2017-04-08 07:32:13,Can I still call myself a libertarian?,,Anonymous,crowdchart (1).png,nBrkRu/kmNXYqXncpYzPYQ==,AU,,1491636733 120112269,120121443,2017-04-08 07:35:38,">>120121147 if your maturity doesn't allow you to identify the bias on the question themselves of the nolan test, you're pushed to a political view by the context and not consciously you're a fifthy statist if so positions don't represent political views unless they're pursued trought political means",,Anonymous,jew_the_jew.jpg,u5CYubJOkavfxLQlCubFXQ==,ES,,1491636938 120112269,120121665,2017-04-08 07:38:07,">>120121147 I don't believe those tests, your policy decides. Those are basically political personality tests",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491637087 120112269,120121701,2017-04-08 07:38:29,"Hope this Trump shit finally red pills the statists on the fact that the state is our real enemy and the fantasy of retaking or controlling it needs to be abandoned. A system like the state will always attract power hungry evil kikes and democracy just acts like a selection process that ensures that only the biggest liars and psychopaths rise to the top.",,Anonymous,1489848452042.jpg,esObuX++X2Lyr/Q1weQGMw==,NL,,1491637109 120112269,120121889,2017-04-08 07:40:42,">>120121665 True, I guess. I'm pretty sure it only put me so far up due to my anti-egalitarian, and traditionalist beliefs.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491637242 120112269,120121951,2017-04-08 07:41:27,">>120121889 >>120121889 Exactly",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491637287 120112269,120121977,2017-04-08 07:41:42,">>120120988 private property isn't about free inmigration, migration wouldn't even exit without a state newcomers would require to met local pre-requisites, which would be decided by the legitimated local private owners",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491637302 120112269,120122136,2017-04-08 07:43:24,">>120121046 Because ideological libertarians are like ideological socialists- most of their ideas only work on paper and are heavily skewed by the fact they were born in and live in developed nations. The idea that they can't easily get everything they want and have to sacrifice some things for other things is beyond them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491637404 120112269,120122233,2017-04-08 07:44:33,">>120121889 I'm not a tradionalist per se, but the fags who make the test call my anti egalitarianism statism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491637473 120112269,120122267,2017-04-08 07:44:57,">>120122136 see >>120112673",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491637497 120112269,120122468,2017-04-08 07:47:13,help spreading the ancap flag my brethen,,Anonymous,,,BE,,1491637633 120112269,120122533,2017-04-08 07:47:58,>>120122468,,Anonymous,1490842027423.png,r8bDNW81yvzVQoyyIewyTg==,DE,,1491637678 120112269,120122599,2017-04-08 07:48:42,">>120121977 >migration wouldn't exsist without the state migration will exist as long as people exsist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491637722 120112269,120122785,2017-04-08 07:50:48,">>120122599 Yeah but it would be limited by The property owners of the area.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491637848 120112269,120123437,2017-04-08 07:57:54,">>120122785 as it is now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491638274 120112269,120123539,2017-04-08 07:58:59,Bump,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,US,,1491638339 120112269,120123559,2017-04-08 07:59:13,">>120122233 Yeah, that test is pretty retarded. Spekr is superior, but still doesn't have enough questions.",,Anonymous,Screenshot (191).png,0DJKF8maaQUONLoIPRnoxQ==,AU,,1491638353 120112269,120123563,2017-04-08 07:59:15,cringe,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491638355 120112269,120123698,2017-04-08 08:00:53,">>120123437 Not really, we vote to pick guys to make those decisions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491638453 120112269,120125292,2017-04-08 08:19:36,">>120121046 What makes national and cultural attachment exclusive to societies where governments have more rights than people? You're assuming that collectivisation wouldn't exist just because it would need to be done voluntarily. It would actually exist more efficiently due to competition and the ability for some governments/militaries/covenants/firms to be funded more than others. For example if there was no federal government in the US, states would have free competition and people would move to the states with better governing abilities. You say that collectivisation is needed for security, but you're assuming that collectivisation is an exclusive function of the government. Patriotism completely dies without the culture that it lives in - it doesn't depend on the state at all.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491639576 120112269,120125328,2017-04-08 08:19:55,Bump.,,Anonymous,ron_paul_rifle.png,kVZ3g/KYLdtNYGtV29bL0g==,US,,1491639595 120112269,120125332,2017-04-08 08:20:01,">>120114271 Sup microstatebro and sup germanbro.",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1491639601 120112269,120125659,2017-04-08 08:23:59,">>120119705 Go to Huerta de Soto lectures and meet up with people, man.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491639839 120112269,120125833,2017-04-08 08:25:59,my favorite thread on /pol/ always,,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vcHV1LnNoL3Y0d2J0L2MxZWFiOGI1MTYuanBnIn0.EFAlXb0KaOo61WceDW_gZ7HrKyA.jpg,OmUOAeoYIekm4k9yyn9sNQ==,US,,1491639959 120112269,120127562,2017-04-08 08:47:28,">>120121046 Cultural bonds exist between a number of human beings. States are not needed for people to form relationships and bonds between each other. In fact, states pit peoples against each other and create instability and war.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491641248 120112269,120127740,2017-04-08 08:49:37,">>120117301 I like this image, it's a shame that trash dove is already a dead meme. Someone should make a better with just Snek and Kek.",,Anonymous,t3_5rxv0s.jpg,pnXke+VVbSZEDHsqF4+23g==,US,,1491641377 120112269,120127927,2017-04-08 08:51:45,">>120120465 Private defense agencies",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491641505 120112269,120128156,2017-04-08 08:54:38,">>120125332 waddup",,Anonymous,1490823564690.jpg,JZ/2uuQlRcUtgLH58LMjuA==,DE,,1491641678 120112269,120128311,2017-04-08 08:56:36,">>120128156 that snek a cute. cute!",,Anonymous,hoppewave 2.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,PT,,1491641796 120112269,120128725,2017-04-08 09:01:13,">>120120465 Oh sorry I missed that post. Yeah basically private security and armies. Or if you don't want to afford an army yourself, you hire insurers that can provide military security.",,Anonymous,1490736838706.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,DE,,1491642073 120112269,120129239,2017-04-08 09:07:06,>libertarians can't get lai-,,Anonymous,Murray&Joey.jpg,d/ChFaVfVm3RNesYmjJLoA==,DE,,1491642426 120112269,120129345,2017-04-08 09:08:11,">>120129239 speaking of Rothbard, even if you're nota libertarian/ancap, you still should watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGh_adhNGR8 stories from Hoppe and others about Rothbard, gets pretty funny at times",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491642491 120112269,120129350,2017-04-08 09:08:14,>>120129239,,Anonymous,P5260036-L.jpg,PDkoX4WoFLVVxTRBG3DdLQ==,PT,,1491642494 120112269,120129434,2017-04-08 09:09:15,">>120129239 lel captcha was >helicopters",,Anonymous,1490841742729.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,DE,,1491642555 120112269,120129664,2017-04-08 09:11:53,>>120129239,,Anonymous,rand.jpg,gr/TeHQjgh9fxBIVraZAkA==,AU,,1491642713 120112269,120129835,2017-04-08 09:13:52,,,Anonymous,Meet-the-Filthy-Libertarian-Anarcho-Capitalist-Jews-Ayn-Rand-Ludwig-von-Mises-Murry-Rothbard-Milton-Friedman.jpg,7TXcLGHXXw2qVKv2w2BvGQ==,FI,,1491642832 120112269,120129854,2017-04-08 09:14:05,">>120129664 >>120122533",,Anonymous,1490821684079.png,tq1mDmBSLQYEBP9Lyv1jvA==,DE,,1491642845 120112269,120129911,2017-04-08 09:14:38,">>120114734 >helicopter in stead of helicopity >kekposting No.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491642878 120112269,120129992,2017-04-08 09:15:32,">>120129835 two of those guys are the greatest economists of all time not their fault goys can't into it as well",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491642932 120112269,120130001,2017-04-08 09:15:37,">>120129835 >putting Friedman and Rand next to based Rothbard and based Mises. off yourself mongrel",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491642937 120112269,120130020,2017-04-08 09:15:50,,,Anonymous,capitalismworksbest650w.jpg,WGUg0JuBgk7id9l4MjFnBw==,FI,,1491642950 120112269,120130067,2017-04-08 09:16:26,">>120129911 Oh nice contribution. Man I wouldn't know what to do without it. You know what time it is",,Anonymous,removal2.png,r2I3QxRCafRrzTc5qYoQlQ==,DE,,1491642986 120112269,120130166,2017-04-08 09:17:32,>>120129835,,Anonymous,removal34.png,TOcOz9IxGlYKTFvrm2FjjA==,DE,,1491643052 120112269,120130411,2017-04-08 09:19:59,">>120125659 I've not mastered teleportation yet",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491643199 120112269,120130589,2017-04-08 09:21:52,"Soon lads... Soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w",,Anonymous,1470485268981.jpg,ZNZVF4zbiLA4Qe2A9/mamw==,GB,,1491643312 120112269,120130627,2017-04-08 09:22:10,">>120130020 wtf i love socialism now",,Anonymous,bpuw8sxhjr4y.png,0R57Vo/V/fFC0waf5BMPDQ==,GB,,1491643330 120112269,120130796,2017-04-08 09:24:12,">>120130411 By public transport or car? Or set up an open ancap (((facebook))) group and meet people, arrange meat ups and share the bants with each other.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491643452 120112269,120131134,2017-04-08 09:27:36,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvNNM0TsXSU,,Anonymous,1486242291110.png,Nrx+cxQCzj86/KroRDrnKQ==,GB,,1491643656 120112269,120131669,2017-04-08 09:33:15,what about monopoly and cartel ?,,Anonymous,,,ID,,1491643995 120112269,120131673,2017-04-08 09:33:19,">National (((Socialism))) is absolutely good >Socialism is acceptable when whites are enslaved",,Anonymous,1490956172627.gif,laWz5gvhA/3Ym5yfbxSN7Q==,DE,,1491643999 120112269,120131748,2017-04-08 09:34:04,">>120131669 boycott",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491644044 120112269,120131913,2017-04-08 09:36:01,">>120131669 no monopoly without a state to enforce restrictions on the entrance to a given line of production. cartels are unstable between its members and eventually collapse. if not, consumer boycott and competition with other firms should be encouraged.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491644161 120112269,120132130,2017-04-08 09:38:30,">>120131748 >>120131913 but have cartels been easily identified by consumers ?",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1491644310 120112269,120132442,2017-04-08 09:41:37,">>120118686 If it's a question of ""attachment"" then it's question of personal valuation. Austrian economists, and thus arguably libertarian, believe in the subjective theory of value. On a slightly more expensive definition of this doctrine (as far as I know, strictly speaking, it only holds for object of exchange and not things like 'a nation') we should expect people to value their past or their perceived heritage according to their own temperament or their own will. In other words, people would value these things as they chose to value them, or as their experience dictated. There is no normative frame in Austrian economic within which to evaluate people's pride in cultural artifact, and the ones developed by libertarianism is such that it cannot a priori prohibit a person from feeling a certain way.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491644497 120112269,120132614,2017-04-08 09:43:11,">This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. So much for NAP, kek. Anarchist dogs tier.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1491644591 120112269,120132618,2017-04-08 09:43:12,">>120130796 not going to move to the capital for no major reason, pretty far away and pretty expensive to go just to mess around might try making groups in social media, but how am I supposed to reach them if I don't know any of them first? kek",,Anonymous,1483714866819.jpg,Q0cVMy3nhWwMfBO8/cGdMQ==,ES,,1491644592 120112269,120132769,2017-04-08 09:44:43,">>120132614 retard",,Anonymous,1490805837759.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,DE,,1491644683 120112269,120133046,2017-04-08 09:47:29,">>120132618 We're not pacifists, removing commies is self defense",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491644849 120112269,120133081,2017-04-08 09:47:45,">>120120065 >I disagree very strongly with the earlier sentiment that libertarians are against immigration. In fact that goes strongly against neoclassical economic principles of the free market. And that's why I'm a nationalist libertarian, i.e. I believe in libertarianism only within certain national context and for the people of said nation. Note that ""classical economic"" is not a normative system, nor is it necessary for us to follow alleged normative principles of classical economics. Furthermore, the massive import of people from other cultural context may be equivalent to jeopardizing the very social order that allows individual freedom in the first place, so that in the end mass immigration may be self destructive even though from the point of view of classical economics this CANNOT be perceived. This is simply because economic theory, by way of necessity, must make abstraction of these other feature of individuals that make them who they are. Namely, economic science, for certain purposes, must consider them ONLY AS labor unit, and not as people with cultural or political aspiration. Thus it is unwise for us to to ONLY consider economic theory in these matters. What's more, immigration is unlike free trade in some other important way, in that my toaster, my car, computer, and so on, cannot, through their own volition, foist themselves upon me and my community for the purpose of profiting from the accumulated social and physical capital that exists within a certain territory. In other words, the phenomena of immigration may not be mutually agreed upon. In other words: nationalist libertarianism. Liberty.... FOR SOME.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491644865 120112269,120133108,2017-04-08 09:48:02,">>120132614 communists are self proclaimed NAP agressors not much of a mistery",,Anonymous,kek.jpg,JeSt6a7GZI+FNtPaJcCgIA==,ES,,1491644882 120112269,120133742,2017-04-08 09:54:19,">>120133081 I can't emphazise enough >>120112368 >>120119067 pics related",,Anonymous,1490962367515.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,DE,,1491645259 120112269,120133841,2017-04-08 09:55:36,">>120132769 >>120133108 By that definition, any and all statists, including minarchist, are NAP violator and liable to the same treatment as communists. (I'm not a big ""physical removal"" guy but I like the meme.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491645336 120112269,120133885,2017-04-08 09:56:03,"Daily reminder the first country to eliminate their central bank and allow free market banking will have the highest living standards on earth within 5 years. Massive high paying service sector jobs with dominate this country's economy to consume the goods the rest of the world has to produce for it. The workweek would shrink to 2-3 days a week and people would retire much earlier. This will also lead to more jobs becoming available. Everyone would have high saving rates. Houses would be inexpensive. Debt would be strongly discouraged economically. Massive automation would take place as the cost of capital goods would be extremely cheap. This will lead to massive levels of technological innovation. It would be extremely easy for the average person to start a business due to the cheap cost of capital goods. Daily reminder REAL capitalism has prices falling all the time instead is going up. Daily reminder America never had a system of free market banking. There were only patches of American history with free market banking. The panics that happened during the 1800s were due to government intervention in the banking sector. Sweden had the longest most successful period of free banking and that's what made them really rich. Daily reminder the longest period of (relatively)free banking in America coincided with the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION where wages rose and prices fell. Daily reminder central banks are the very reason the economy is a pile of shit and our generation is so fucked.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491645363 120112269,120134354,2017-04-08 10:00:35,">>120132130 Consumer watchdogs groups exist for that. NGOs and all those pesky activists exist for that.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491645635 120112269,120134389,2017-04-08 10:00:59,">>120133885 >Daily reminder the first country to eliminate their central bank and allow free market banking will have the highest living standards on earth within 5 years. more like massive inflation then crash, there's an infinite amount of demand for money and any con man would be more than willing to trap rubes into debt peonage given the chance kek",,Anonymous,1418861046060.jpg,NKbgG0fBs6G0RjZCU/925A==,CA,,1491645659 120112269,120134526,2017-04-08 10:02:20,">>120133841 Yes. Democrats and statists will have to go; that is assuming they don't change their behaviour but continue to threaten use of force to establish their state, they will be physically seperated from the rest of society, so to speak. That said I would imagine minarchists would not threaten force and would convert pretty quickly, removing the need for physical removal.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491645740 120112269,120134536,2017-04-08 10:02:27,">>120133885 Das mah man",,Anonymous,1490844227202.jpg,q8MYJ9ZPB8LO90U3WfQUXA==,DE,,1491645747 120112269,120134642,2017-04-08 10:03:44,">>120130020 >sweatshops You mean a massive improvement in third world living standards in spite of what their shitty governments are doing to them? >financial crisis Now I know you're trolling.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491645824 120112269,120134863,2017-04-08 10:06:01,">>120130020 sweatshops are the only thing keeping those poor gooks from starving on the streets. Sweatshops are not nice, but they're no different that the shitty coal mines and the working conditions in mid-Industrial Revolution Europe. What the fuck are you expecting? That a shitty ass country in Asia suddenly moves from agriculture in near-subsistence levels to high tech tertiary sector economy in a decade? Civilizations must be build on sweat and blood, throughout generations of sacrifice.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491645961 120112269,120134930,2017-04-08 10:06:40,">>120134389 >not understanding anything at and and still continues to post Why? >>120134536 Central banks are more important thank any of the economic policies people debate about. We need to get /pol/ on board with destroying central banks.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491646000 120112269,120135038,2017-04-08 10:07:47,">>120134930 I know breh. I know",,Anonymous,1490962075502.png,z4xfUokDWBUAtYIWnzcE6A==,DE,,1491646067 120112269,120135059,2017-04-08 10:08:00,">>120112269 Daily reminder that libertarians are against borders. thus against calling some people illegal just because they dont have a couple of papers.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491646080 120112269,120135157,2017-04-08 10:09:00,">>120135059 >>120112368 >>120119067",,Anonymous,WRnwkjH.png,ZfJcX4mU0AHNq159p5GoFg==,DE,,1491646140 120112269,120135238,2017-04-08 10:09:45,">>120134930 Central banks are the main de-civilizing factor in the West today. All the cultural rot we see around us is financed through fiat money. And central banks, in tandem with fiat property policies (egalitarian and zoning laws, anti-discrimination laws, etc.), degenerate the existence of real commodity money into oblivion by imposing legal tender laws and fractional reserve bullshit. Time preference is one hell of an insight.",,Anonymous,Time Preference and Civilization.jpg,cKlFzeXm+JZfIquU+8hI5Q==,PT,,1491646185 120112269,120135255,2017-04-08 10:09:52,"I'm not an ancap, I'm a minarchist that believes in throwing marxists from helicopters. Socialist parties should be constitutionally banned from running politically. This includes social democratic parties.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491646192 120112269,120135332,2017-04-08 10:10:34,">>120135255 >constitutions",,Anonymous,removed.png,2vPbL/sJgWeLtS+2WkNMLQ==,PT,,1491646234 120112269,120135452,2017-04-08 10:11:47,">>120133081 Im glad you exploit that line of thought. I've had an inkling of a trace of that thought line, but it would have been a long time (if ever) before I could have come to that reasoning as concisely and logically as you did. But I have to say, I still don't buy that entirely. I agree with the logic, and I especially agree with not exclusively looking at it in a purely economic form. But on a grander scale: if liberty is truly the best route for an individual society, and will allow that society to develope to the best of its potential, then what's preventing liberty from taking those immigrants and making them a valuable asset to society? I would argue that when cultures aren't forced to intermingle, and they're allowed to prosper in proximity to each other they would actually gain much from each other, barring gross fundamental differences like say slavery or something. But what's more important, at least in my eyes, is the concept of pre-post scarcity. Whether they're in your country or not, they're on the same planet. For the time being, that's an inescapable fact. They eat food, drink water, consume energy and materials, reproduce and do it all over again. That affects the supply of those goods in our neck of the world eventually. If this is not the case, then do we not have a vested interest helping those societies become more advanced, and having more capability to reduce consumption and possibly contribute to our well being economically? That could be argued from a standpoint of resources and property rights I believe. And if that is the case, then how would isolationism help? Certainly denying individuals liberties of emigration, however much sense it may make to protecting our liberties, is not the best way to help spread the ideas of liberty? Perhaps I'm missing the finer point and isolationism isn't what you're preaching here. Also, I should note I'm reaching /playing devils advocate simply for the hell of it.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1480624011534.jpg,rjFJgq1Y2fSLCjDOmewU+Q==,US,,1491646307 120112269,120135519,2017-04-08 10:12:24,">>120135157 Is it a try to unite natsoc and libertarian pol?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491646344 120112269,120135522,2017-04-08 10:12:26,">>120135332 Whatever, I'm okay with having you people have your own system elsewhere though. My ideal system would have one party ruling for a long time until they fuck up, like Japan.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491646346 120112269,120135708,2017-04-08 10:14:23,">>120135519 We will never unite with national (((socialist))) faggots. But it's a good starting point for people knowing only the """"""Libertarians"""""" from media",,Anonymous,1490697237018.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,DE,,1491646463 120112269,120135810,2017-04-08 10:15:21,">>120127740 How are borders even connected with private property?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491646521 120112269,120136067,2017-04-08 10:18:07,">>120135810 holy shit, the bait is strong on this one",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491646687 120112269,120136083,2017-04-08 10:18:16,">>120112368 >>120119067 Do you make these? If so, do you have skype or a throwaway email or something? I have countless amazing ideas for libertarian propaganda pictures but I'm a very lazy man that sucks at photoshop. I need to talk to you.",,Anonymous,1491627977174.jpg,kqMiMHiUm2hy0kHJCOFMXg==,CA,,1491646696 120112269,120136579,2017-04-08 10:23:15,,,Anonymous,LIBERTARIAN-PORN.png,5mvqJAQ0mp4sDz3xiwXPgw==,AU,,1491646995 120112269,120136912,2017-04-08 10:26:34,">>120133841 >He thinks physical removal is just a meme. I value my liberty, that's why I'd like to keep those who are ideologically opposed to my liberty out of my community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491647194 120112269,120137092,2017-04-08 10:28:12,">>120136083 I didn't make that but send ideas to hhhphysicalremoval@gmail.com I make quality content",,Anonymous,1489007111938.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,US,,1491647292 120112269,120137213,2017-04-08 10:29:22,"Reminder that an actual free market will be an advanced service sector economy with really short work weeks and amusement parks everywhere. The service sector will dominate the economy because most of everything else is automated. Not only will there be no unemployment, there will be a high demand for workers from employers because people wouldn't want to work as much and would retire early.",,Anonymous,1484963422873.png,zIgaXJ/Dk6NYjzDrrjs+5w==,CA,,1491647362 120112269,120137333,2017-04-08 10:30:35,">>120135238 >degenerate the existence of real commodity money into oblivion by imposing legal tender laws and fractional reserve bullshit. >commodity money there's literally no difference between braindead marxists and austrians, they are the only ones left that take something this stupid seriously",,Anonymous,lmao.jpg,3RCNvKYOeoaKWpIOxwDPCw==,CA,,1491647435 120112269,120137376,2017-04-08 10:31:09,"Well, /lrg/?",,Anonymous,is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow bioshock.jpg,27Z1BI7KIVQJYLZ2/isspA==,US,,1491647469 120112269,120137408,2017-04-08 10:31:31,">>120136083 >>120137092 I take what I said back I DID make the open borders image. Not the other one tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491647491 120112269,120137412,2017-04-08 10:31:35,">>120137376 Indeed he is.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491647495 120112269,120137507,2017-04-08 10:32:27,"Reminder that the labour theory of value is fucking bullshit because the working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods. They are literally already getting the full value for their labour. The only thing that increases the amount of goods each person gets is SUPPLY. Advances in economic production are what do this. We need to automate EVERYTHING",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491647547 120112269,120138415,2017-04-08 10:41:14,>>120137507,,Anonymous,FAHR.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,US,,1491648074 120112269,120138557,2017-04-08 10:42:42,">>120112269 Is no one watching this stream? MANDATORY VIEWING: LIVE STREAM Mises Institute Speakers Including Ron Paul https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmofHlYzAmI",,Anonymous,1465870086855.jpg,slm1bzx2wLtPTZpe14ffrA==,US,,1491648162 120112269,120138614,2017-04-08 10:43:13,">>120137507 >>120138415 Sameleaf here. Every time I tried to convince a marxist about this they just got angry and shitposted. It's like they know they're wrong. Surplus value amounts to LITERALLY NOTHING in the real world.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491648193 120112269,120139681,2017-04-08 10:53:43,bump,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491648823 120112269,120139896,2017-04-08 10:55:48,"What are you guys doing to get based libertarian Maxime Bernier elected in Canada? http://www.maximebernier.com/sound_monetary_policy He's the Ron Paul of Canada and has a REAL chance of winning. He's neck and neck with the frontrunner, cuck o'leary. He raised the most amount of money I believe.",,Anonymous,4i1kOcoj.jpg,AyDIkuB7u2Xs6W/DR6EF+w==,CA,,1491648948 120112269,120139915,2017-04-08 10:55:59,">>120138557 Thomas Massie is currently speaking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgPbFjUL3dk",,Anonymous,thomas massie.jpg,s5a0ZmN/wzG4EPly/yN/Zg==,AU,,1491648959 120112269,120139935,2017-04-08 10:56:15,">>120137092 >>120137408 I'm writing an email to you right now.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491648975 120112269,120139967,2017-04-08 10:56:35,">>120138614 I have a social justice friend, (pls no lol at me) I argue with him all the time. He always chimps out and calls me a racist or a fascist. There's no point in debate with them. We have fundamental ideological differences that can't be settled. It's better to just remove them from your libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491648995 120112269,120140405,2017-04-08 11:00:46,"To those shills who say Rothbard was a shill for (((them))): https://youtu.be/oGh_adhNGR8?t=1h22m7s Look at the enthusiasm Hans shows when he points out that Rothbard was an enthusiastic reader of The Bell Curve and highly praised it, saying ""Hey Hans, you have to read this book!"" and thought J.P. Rushton was even better. And for Murray's life: a walking intellectual giant who knew almost everything about everything; wrote about economics, politics, history, sociology, culture; an avid reader of books, had hundreds of books on his shelves, all of them annotated by him with critiques and opinions; knew all the plots of the soap operas and the sports games results; worked in a polytechnic institute and later in Vegas because his views made him unpopular with the elites. This man is a treasure and you NatSocs are fucking subhuman for comparing him to (((them))).",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491649246 120112269,120140644,2017-04-08 11:03:04,">>120140405 He's cool and a valuable resource. But what's that shit about selling children? One of the reasons I'm not a pure ancap.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491649384 120112269,120140679,2017-04-08 11:03:25,">>120139967 We all know some people who will regret their life choices on the Day of the Helicopter, unfortunately.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491649405 120112269,120140813,2017-04-08 11:04:47,">>120140644 Reeeeeeee I have already explained this many times here: it's not selling the property rights to the children's body (slavery), it's selling the property rights to the guardianship of the child, which itself only lasts until he grows up and leaves the parental household.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491649487 120112269,120141015,2017-04-08 11:07:06,"What do libertarians think about intellectual property laws? Should the free market decide whose execution of an idea is better? Or does ownership extend to intangible ideas?",,Anonymous,1475630640130.jpg,XGbOnEBw0sEcdjvZFk6guw==,GB,,1491649626 120112269,120141084,2017-04-08 11:07:47,All Communists pic related.,,Anonymous,1491585323462.jpg,SJqIzu+K0tqjneZ1v4X3Hw==,US,,1491649667 120112269,120141333,2017-04-08 11:10:14,">>120140813 hmm interesting but how do we know that the new buyer of these rights won't abuse the child? What happens to the kid then? also other reasons I'm not an ancap include animal welfare. I don't like the idea of dogs and cats being eaten, which is what I see ancap being. also I don't want people to own nukes and tomahawk missiles lol ALSO I think society should fund pure research somehow because private firms won't do it as much. Maybe some sort of donation system to a network of basic scientific research non-profits I can see the state doing this though, I dunno.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491649814 120112269,120141448,2017-04-08 11:11:29,">>120139967 >>120137408 >>120137092 I sent an email to you.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491649889 120112269,120141653,2017-04-08 11:13:21,">>120112269 Without zoning laws and regulations, what prevents me from building an airport right inside a residential zone, thus ruining property values for everybody else due to noise pollution, and making their lives a living hell from all the noise until they finally agree to give in and sell their land?",,Anonymous,static1.squarespace.com.png,YhX6IEfYNa1hVVbw895eyg==,US,,1491650001 120112269,120141727,2017-04-08 11:14:01,"Anyone know who made these images? I have another one desu. I want more.",,Anonymous,1486320422094.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,CA,,1491650041 120112269,120141788,2017-04-08 11:14:41,">>120141727 helicopter chan",,Anonymous,1486412020882.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,CA,,1491650081 120112269,120141935,2017-04-08 11:16:07,">>120141653 noise pollution is against the NAP you would be sued and physically removed",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491650167 120112269,120142025,2017-04-08 11:17:07,">>120141935 >Sue >In a world with no government and thus no legal system B-but muh polycentric law",,Anonymous,1491630347145.jpg,M00as75O3OFElUfifI62Zw==,US,,1491650227 120112269,120142161,2017-04-08 11:18:17,">>120142025 >>In a world with no government and thus no legal system >without government there is no legal system Come on now, at least try to understand our ideology.",,Anonymous,1469872057483.jpg,kANmxVKDMCtMZ9VwOWEhsQ==,CA,,1491650297 120112269,120142235,2017-04-08 11:18:52,235 blaze it,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1491500576374.jpg,zHYmDMUCYjXowrms+DHK8Q==,GB,,1491650332 120112269,120142305,2017-04-08 11:19:42,">>120142161 >without government there is no legal system This statement is 100% true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491650382 120112269,120142337,2017-04-08 11:19:59,">>120141727 I made them, if you have any requests, I can make more.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491650399 120112269,120142407,2017-04-08 11:20:39,">>120142305 Except it's literally not. You're historically wrong. American midwest, medieval iceland and medieval ireland were anarchist and had polycentric law for a long time. http://royhalliday.home.mindspring.com/history.htm",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491650439 120112269,120142447,2017-04-08 11:21:02,">>120135452 >But on a grander scale: if liberty is truly the best route for an individual society, and will allow that society to develope to the best of its potential, then what's preventing liberty from taking those immigrants and making them a valuable asset to society? Presumably it is due to the fact that people's self is determined by historically contingent situations. Namely, a person's sense of his self, of what is good, his conception of liberty itself, is determined in part by irrationally given feature which he acquires in youth relatively automatically and involuntarily because of basic brain plasticity. Therefore, the alien within a society, in so far as he is not part of the same line of development as us, is liable to identify with some other group or have different conceptions of what it is to be good, of what the self is, of the place of the self within society, of what the substructure of societies are and their role (religions, races, tribes) and of what freedom actually is. (Some Muslims do not recognize as legitimate freedom the state of NOT being a Muslim.) Mechanism of self formation and cultural transmission do not operate merely at the societal (read: horizontal) level, but also at the family (read: vertical) one. Thus the ability of a society to shape and integrate an individual, especially in a context in which this society gives a GREAT degree of autonomy to families and the deployment of other culture, will potentially compromise itself through mass migration. I would furthermore question the idea according to which liberty is THE best of systems FOR ALL TIME AND ALL PLACES. I believe liberty to be the best system FOR US according to our accidental historical circumstances. It is a bounded (relative) notion of what ""best"" means, and is rooted in historicism and value pluralism. (For value pluralism, see Paz, John Gray.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491650462 120112269,120142461,2017-04-08 11:21:10,"What do you guys think of Molyneaux? I listened to one of his Joe Rogan podcasts and he sounded like a pretty bright guy when speaking on corporations and all. Also is there a pastebin for all of the books OP posted?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491650470 120112269,120142611,2017-04-08 11:22:40,">>120142407 >Except it's literally not Except it literally is. >You're historically wrong. >American midwest, medieval iceland and medieval ireland were anarchist and had polycentric law for a long time. Bullshit. A feudal society is not anarchist, and the American midwest? Come on dude. Local government is still government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491650560 120112269,120142680,2017-04-08 11:23:22,">>120142337 Yes PLEASE make more desu. I'd like to see one with her smashing a commie's skull in. Or how about one with her at an amusement park in free market land, eating ice cream? What's her name? Helicopter chan?",,Anonymous,190238475209730.jpg,D51B9oKLxOsrAOS/B3q8Rg==,CA,,1491650602 120112269,120142858,2017-04-08 11:25:07,">>120141333 >but how do we know that the new buyer of these rights won't abuse the child? You could ask the same thing in regards to present statist conditions. The only difference being that instead of some frustrated social worker employed by an inefficient monopolist doing a background check on the parents you'd have a private agency doing the background checks and ensuring the child is kept safe (the contract could include: you must dress the child, feed him, educate him, etc.), and that the parents are respectable members of society and not some drug addicts who are into kiddy fiddling or something like that. >also other reasons I'm not an ancap include animal welfare. I don't like the idea of dogs and cats being eaten, which is what I see ancap being. We're not Chinese. Also, animal abuse is universally reviled in the Western world and people recognize this fact without a need for a state. Now add on top of that the fact that animal abusers are usually sociopaths/psychopaths in the making, people would most likely segregate animal abusers from society (since criminals drive down property values and distort the market). Now, of course there could be restaurants or bars that served exotic animal dishes that we may find revolting, but we'd have to live with that just as we do now. Unless, of course, specific covenants outright banned certain types of cuisine and activities because of cultural-moral reasons. Since society would be ""privatized,"" it would be a matter of everyone auto-segregating to the covenants/communities they found to be more in line with their beliefs.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491650707 120112269,120142938,2017-04-08 11:25:57,">>120142680 To be honest I never gave her one. Helicopter-chan/ Physical Removal-chan sound pretty cool though and sure I can make some more stuff like that.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491650757 120112269,120142941,2017-04-08 11:25:58,">>120142611 >Except it literally is. Why does actual historical evidence upset you so much? >A feudal society But they weren't feudal societies. You're saying the american midwest with it's polycentric law, claims associations and homesteading were ""feudal""? >Local government There was literally no state.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491650758 120112269,120142984,2017-04-08 11:26:26,">>120142858 >animal abuse is universally reviled in the Western world and people recognize this fact without a need for a state Sure, but without a state there is no way to enforce that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491650786 120112269,120143003,2017-04-08 11:26:33,">>120141448 I gotcha.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491650793 120112269,120143023,2017-04-08 11:26:43,"http://t.me/libertarianrg Libertarian Group chat, free discussion, active members",,Anonymous,b0jga63vnt1y.jpg,u6CljOpQsTIo1aMGK8Reug==,US,,1491650803 120112269,120143086,2017-04-08 11:27:16,">>120135452 >Certainly denying individuals liberties of emigration, however much sense it may make to protecting our liberties, is not the best way to help spread the ideas of liberty? I don't know what the case for that is, but right now you're conflating two issues. You said first that the problem was one of resource consumption that needed to be reduced, and then you said that we had some duty to spread the ideal of liberty. I do not recognize that the west has any duty to spread liberty anywhere, but merely that it is desirable for us to embody and establish this ideal HERE for us. This is because I do not believe in universal systems valid for all place and all time, but rather believe that each ""people"" (however defined) is part of a historical continuum which defines at any given moment what is and is not possible for that people culturally. (To be sure, historicism is a richer perspective than this but it is also, in part, this.) Furthermore, I believe in the plurality of legitimate value and in the impossibility of rationally deciding between them. For instance, considering the values of an ascetic and that of a hedonist, I believe both have some kind of value, that both represent something worthy about our potential for human experience, but that (1) they are incompatible in a single individual and (2) there is not necessarily a rational way to decide between them, as these two lifestyle choices do not rest along a common scale of value. They cannot really be ranked. In exactly the same way as I believe this to be true for the individual, I believe to obtain for whole societies. Different societies embodies different set of values all incompatible with one another and between which rational decision is not really possible. The most profound and distinctive feature of each society rests in these differences, and they end up constituting our very sense of selfhood.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491650836 120112269,120143126,2017-04-08 11:27:38,">>120142984 Yes, there is. It's called ostracism, contempt, disdain, slander, libel, shunning and outcasting.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491650858 120112269,120143156,2017-04-08 11:27:52,">>120142941 Did these towns have mayors? Did they have laws? If so, then that's obviously a form of government. A very localized form of government, but government regardless.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491650872 120112269,120143180,2017-04-08 11:28:07,">>120142938 >sure I can make some more stuff like that. Yes please. Thanks!!",,Anonymous,1491171671756.jpg,XlIQkG8wbrbFo253/IUkCQ==,CA,,1491650887 120112269,120143278,2017-04-08 11:28:58,">>120143156 >Did these towns have mayors? No. >Did they have laws? Yes, polycentric law. >If so, then that's obviously a form of government. Yes governance, not a state. That's literally what ancaps are talking about.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491650938 120112269,120143288,2017-04-08 11:29:03,">>120143126 But people who abuse animals are sickos who won't care about any of that stuff. That's why we need the government to go in and stop them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491650943 120112269,120143424,2017-04-08 11:30:14,">>120143278 So you admit that there WAS government. Just a specific form of government that is very localized. Ancaps = BTFO",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491651014 120112269,120143557,2017-04-08 11:31:30,">>120135452 But this idea that societal values are of this nature, that they cannot be compared yet must be chosen, implies that any imposition of an external standard on a society will appear to be, from the point of view of that society, to be arbitrary and irrational. What's more, it will potentially correspond to the destruction of genuine value for that society, and will furthermore be such that it may attempt to introduce elements within the society that are incompatible with their cultural milieu. Consider, for instance, the attempt to export a democratic nation state model to a tribal society. It will NOT result in a western style democracy, but rather in a system in which election will merely be tribal census, each tribe members voting for their tribe parties, and each tribe parties having as their mission the interests of their tribe members at the exclusion of those that aren't. So yeah I'm not a big fan of the idea of : (1) Historical convergence of the whole world on a western model (2) The associated idea that it's the west's divine mission to help that process",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491651090 120112269,120143596,2017-04-08 11:31:52,">>120143424 Yes. A polycentric local government, not ran by a state. Now, what ideology wants those again?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491651112 120112269,120143737,2017-04-08 11:32:58,">>120143596 Now, what ideology wants those again? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_municipalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491651178 120112269,120143774,2017-04-08 11:33:18,">>120143288 Animal abuse is NOT universally reviled in the west, not in facts anyway. We consistently mistreat and slaughters MILLIONS of animals every year as part of the processes of various animal related industries. We hide this fact from ourselves but the fact of the matter is that this is what we do, and this is what we do in spite of the fact that governments currently exist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491651198 120112269,120143875,2017-04-08 11:34:11,">>120143288 They may not care but their parents, family, friends and acquaintances will. Those are the people who will have to correct them and show them the right way of conduct in civilized society. Also, it's because of the state meddling in the family and in public education that creates these moral monstrosities. >inb4 but what if they don't catch the abuser red-handed Wow, then I guess a state agent dealing with homicides and robberies on a regular basis sure would!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491651251 120112269,120144000,2017-04-08 11:35:30,">>120143875 >Also, it's because of the state meddling in the family and in public education that creates these moral monstrosities. Yeah dude.....the government goes out and tells people to hurt animals. That's completely bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491651330 120112269,120144112,2017-04-08 11:36:30,">>120142858 >you'd have a private agency doing the background checks and ensuring the child is kept safe okay that makes sense for children who have already been transferred from their abusive parents. but what about children who live with their abusive biological parents in the first place? What laws would exist to protect them? >Also, animal abuse is universally reviled in the Western world and people recognize this fact without a need for a state. So? There are still countless people that abuse animals. >people would most likely segregate animal abusers from society I don't see this as being a good enough deterrent. >Now, of course there could be restaurants or bars that served exotic animal dishes that we may find revolting, but we'd have to live with that just as we do now. I think serving these animals should be banned if the animal has a certain level of intelligence/emotional intelligence. Only a few animals though like Dolphins and whales. Probably why I'm not an ancap. I'm very libertarian on everything else though.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491651390 120112269,120144164,2017-04-08 11:37:07,">>120143737 no, anarcho-capitalism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491651427 120112269,120144233,2017-04-08 11:37:50,">>120143288 People abuse animals in multiple parts of the world , what can you do? When hundreds of Danish people go around smashing seals or when Spanish people torture a bull for show, they only do it because in their societies this is not seen as something wrong. As a Spanish or as a Danish in this case, what you need to do is vote with your wallet and let this practices die with education. Our concept of libertarianism is microstates with different law-frames, acquiring property there where animals are protected by contract is the way to go. The only thing you can do is let the market set the laws that make more sense, I believe covenants where animals are protected will be the most prosperous, so these laws would be replicated elsewhere. Anyway, let´s remember that moral systems are subjective and that there will always be someone who thinks his moral system is more advanced than yours, we cannot let that slippery slope drag freedom.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491651470 120112269,120144268,2017-04-08 11:38:08,">>120143774 This is true. Honestly, in a truly moral society, everybody would be vegetarian, and there would be laws enforcing this. However, humanity has not yet reached that point of enlightenment yet. >>120144164 Wrong. Ancaps don't want ANY government at all. They want everything to be 100% privatized. No laws. No state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491651488 120112269,120144441,2017-04-08 11:39:53,">>120144112 >but what about children who live with their abusive biological parents in the first place? >What laws would exist to protect them? In a libertarian system presumably none. The question now becomes: to what degree are you ready to alter the system so as to prevent the possibility of certain exceptions from occurring? I say exception, because I believe situation of parental abuse to be rather rare, as it is literally not biologically and evolutionary sound. Are we ready, on account of these exceptions, to establish a state apparatus whose role it will be to ensure that the child is not abused according to some definition of what abuse means? (Consider that the creation of such an apparatus would mean reaching a consensus about the definition of abuse. Consider that some atheist consider religious indoctrination to be a form of child abuse. (Incidentally, their case is not the worst.))",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491651593 120112269,120144446,2017-04-08 11:39:55,"If I was rich I would form a libertarian think tank that pumps out propaganda news, videos and images. There needs to be a website that explains in detail every objection to libertarianism, also that explains socialist economic and philosophical fallacies.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491651595 120112269,120144773,2017-04-08 11:42:59,">>120144000 No, they control the money supply which inflates prices and destroys the value of real currency, erasing families' savings in the process, sponsoring policies which send fathers to jail and promote family breakdown and disintegration, etc. Do I really have to spell it all out for you? If you're not trolling and you are really interested then why not read Democracy by Hoppe? There are many times when he calls the state out on the dysgenic and adverse effects it creates on family life and society as a whole. >>120144112 >but what about children who live with their abusive biological parents in the first place? >What laws would exist to protect them? Children are also covered by NAP and all that pazzazz, so the laws protecting adults from aggression would also apply to children. >>120144446 This coalition of loosely-conservative and libertarian websites and commentators we have now do a pretty good service. I'd say the Mises Institute comes close to what you're asking, and it is by now means ""propaganda"" in the sense that they publish serious work.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491651779 120112269,120144797,2017-04-08 11:43:12,">>120144268 >However, humanity has not yet reached that point of enlightenment yet. I believe that a more moral society would treat animals better, not stop eating meat. Unless one believes that man has some sort of place that is completely separate from the animal kingdom, it seems to me perfectly normal and ordinary to conceive of human as meat eating creatures. Even if one does think of human being as being completely separated from the animal kingdom, as in the view propounded by the Bible, it does not follow from this that it ought not to eat animals, simply because various religion more or less sanctioned the practice. Thus they are a system which distinguish human from animal while allowing the eating of animal. Funnily enough, vegans thus seems to contradict a couple of big world religions.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491651792 120112269,120144854,2017-04-08 11:43:46,">>120144441 >In a libertarian system presumably none. I don't think that's right. I kind of knew the right answer to that anon but asked it anyway. Children have rights just as much as adults do. If a child is being abused, the parent will be arrested.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491651826 120112269,120145002,2017-04-08 11:45:07,"L I V E ---- S T R E A M GET IN HERE, Mises Insitute right-libertarian organization of which Hoppe is a part of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmofHlYzAmI Currently speaking David Stockman about the Deep State and Trump. Later speeches by Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul as well.",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME.jpg,SBAidoUzuvU2cr+IWfU8qQ==,US,,1491651907 120112269,120145117,2017-04-08 11:46:08,">>120144773 >This coalition of loosely-conservative and libertarian websites and commentators we have now do a pretty good service Not really, it's kind of pathetic actually. >I'd say the Mises Institute comes close to what you're asking Not really. They're only good for intellectuals, but they're complete garbage for the common person. Libertarians are shit for explaining things to the common person that's why things like trumpism and nazism take over /pol/. We need memes and infographics and TV shows(that take place in free markets). We need more media and fast.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491651968 120112269,120145144,2017-04-08 11:46:19,"poll for /pol/ https://strawpoll.com/y6139z2 https://strawpoll.com/y6139z2 https://strawpoll.com/y6139z2",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491651979 120112269,120145280,2017-04-08 11:47:33,">>120144112 >but what about children who live with their abusive biological parents in the first place? >What laws would exist to protect them? The law of the community they live in. As a land owner, you want your property to gain value, right? So what do you think would happen when your tenants begin complaining about this guy mistreating their children and moving to the covenant next to yours where children abuse is forbidden by contract? We need to think about anarcho capitalism like we think about migration patterns, people will run from away from barbarians, excepting that in this case, the people running will have to purchase property in non barbaric places, sign that they want to be protected and exposed to the laws of the place, and of course, most prosperous places will be there where no welfare is given.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491652053 120112269,120145385,2017-04-08 11:48:29,">>120144854 I believe issues concerning children are not a weak point of libertarianism but rather a difficult space to work out. Libertarianism is a system of liberty which presupposes a set of agents who have reach the ""age of reason"" and not some semi autonomous agents unable to decide for themselves and who are not completely accountable for their action. But then again this is one of the reason why I treat libertarianism as a tendency or a point of view that is more interesting and valid than some other point of view like outright fucking communism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491652109 120112269,120145619,2017-04-08 11:50:34,">>120144268 >Vegetarianism Animals can't consent m8, their stewards can tho. And I don't advocate lawlessness, but privatized contractual law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491652234 120112269,120145886,2017-04-08 11:52:59,">>120144268 >Ancaps don't want ANY government at all. They want everything to be 100% privatized. No laws. No state. Okay, you're a moron. No point in continuing debating with you.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491652379 120112269,120146684,2017-04-08 12:00:28,">>120145886 That's fine. It's completely up to you. >>120145619 >privatized contractual law. It's completely impossible to have any sort of coherent legal system unless you have some sort of government to enforce it. Otherwise, people will just completely ignore whatever ""laws"" are passed.",,Anonymous,warren-buffett-the-rich-are-always-going-to-say-that-you-know-just-give-us-more-money-and-well-go-out-and-spend-more-and-then-it-will-all-trickle-down-to-the-rest-of-you-but-that-has-no.jpg,IXTKJbiN9qPtKxMtBTcEiw==,US,,1491652828 120112269,120146974,2017-04-08 12:03:18,">>120112269 Bumping for liberty",,Anonymous,1491082192534.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1491652998 120112269,120147044,2017-04-08 12:03:52,">>120146684 >image >using warren buffet as a good example of anything How brainwashed can you get?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491653032 120112269,120147356,2017-04-08 12:06:38,">>120146684 >implying libertarianism is about protecting the rich This is bait.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491653198 120112269,120147893,2017-04-08 12:11:22,">>120147356 >>120147044 He's clearly baiting. Starting to get more and more noticeable.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491653482 120112269,120148377,2017-04-08 12:15:36,All forms of socialism are also statism,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491653736 120112269,120148654,2017-04-08 12:17:55,">>120147893 I'd actually like us to collect some data or research papers in order to do an analysis of the SJW phenomena from an economic point of view. First, it would be interesting to analyze the way in which the government subsidize colleges so as to encourage the creation of SJWs. Second, we would have to have some kind of analysis of the marketability of various SJWs degrees so as to demonstrate just how useless they are. Third, we could analyze the behavior of the SJWs from the point of view of human action. Namely, as SJWs do not have marketable skills, they cannot engage in voluntary exchanges for their end product, which is SJW analysis.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491653875 120112269,120149015,2017-04-08 12:21:04,">>120147044 >hating on based Buffet >>120147356 >No minimum wage >No tort laws or regulations >No workers compensation >No social security or medicaid >No public roads or services Yeah dude, really taking a stand for the little guy there!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491654064 120112269,120149097,2017-04-08 12:22:00,">>120146684 I was trying to be nice before and not call you a commie, but now it's time to remove yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491654120 120112269,120149335,2017-04-08 12:24:18,">>120149015 >>hating on based Buffet >loving someone that wants to reduce your living standards through central bank inflation >loving someone who gets to exploit you through stock market manipulation created by central bank inflation what a cuck",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491654258 120112269,120149441,2017-04-08 12:25:18,">>120148654 This is actually something I was very interested in doing when I have the time and resources. An economic refutation of SJWness and degeneracy is something I'd love to work on.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491654318 120112269,120149458,2017-04-08 12:25:32,">>120112269 Agreed !!",,Deathstroke,natson ancap alliance 2.png,g/yNYfh1jm4aI7ckxUtMsQ==,CA,,1491654332 120112269,120149467,2017-04-08 12:25:36,">>120149015 >the only way to improve living standards for a mass of people is through government schemes Insane bait.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491654336 120112269,120149603,2017-04-08 12:26:37,">>120149441 It wouldn't be a refutation of the SJWs position but only a an analysis of what they are. They, fundamentally, are a non productive group allowed to exist because of government distortion.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491654397 120112269,120149743,2017-04-08 12:27:58,"My dream is to set up a libertarian swedish ethno-community. Instant physical removal of any kebabs and libshits if they cross the border.",,Anonymous,1491643868319.jpg,Q/L4UXMatPuTTcjmQRxP1Q==,SE,,1491654478 120112269,120149779,2017-04-08 12:28:17,">>120149335 >taking advantage of the free market is bad I thought you fucks were supposed to be capitalists? >>120149467 These ""schemes"" are the result of workers unionizing and using their collective power to achieve better treatment. They are not some diabolical government conspiracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491654497 120112269,120149852,2017-04-08 12:28:55,">>120149743 Sounds based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491654535 120112269,120149891,2017-04-08 12:29:14,">>120149779 >>taking advantage of the free market is bad Why do you pretend government central bank manipulated economies that print trillions of dollars and give it to wall street while fucking over main street are ""free market""? Are you delusional?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491654554 120112269,120149951,2017-04-08 12:29:46,">>120149779 >free market >central bank",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491654586 120112269,120150072,2017-04-08 12:30:45,">>120149779 >These ""schemes"" are the result of workers unionizing and using their collective power to achieve better treatment. >he actually thinks workers yelling and screaming will magically increase living standards >he thinks ebul capitalists hoard all the consumer goods and that's why people are poor lmao",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491654645 120112269,120150091,2017-04-08 12:30:53,">>120146684 My house has certain rules and there's no government inside it. Laws could be completely ignored in the state model if it wasn't for the concept of social contract, in which the government owns your body. In the case of anarcho capitalism, we wouldn't be talking about the social contract, but about actual voluntary contracts where you limit your freedom in exchange for a certain degree of security and living conditions.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491654653 120112269,120150217,2017-04-08 12:32:05,">>120149779 >These ""schemes"" are the result of workers unionizing and using their collective power to achieve better treatment. They are not some diabolical government conspiracy. In so far as worker want to unionize to establish something with their employers, it does not violate anything relating to libertarianism, so there's no problem there. But the process of wealth creation does not have much to do with the government or coercive redistribution schemes.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491654725 120112269,120150416,2017-04-08 12:33:49,">>120149743 Sounds like a safe space.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1491654829 120112269,120150893,2017-04-08 12:38:23,">>120150416 That's the point, yes. Societies should be safe. You'd be retarded to want anything else, Feliks.",,Anonymous,1491576272576.png,HppcXhRW72rL07iIo82sHQ==,SE,,1491655103 120112269,120151721,2017-04-08 12:45:01,">>120123559 I found it to be surprisingly accurate",,Anonymous,20170322_090342.png,9ZR95ckPcZ9XZAW5bgXtHg==,US,,1491655501 120112269,120152038,2017-04-08 12:47:48,>i've never had a job in my life or had to pay rent general,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491655668 120112269,120152121,2017-04-08 12:48:31,"Will being a cute trap maid be a viable career option in a libertarian society? a-asking for a f-friend",,Anonymous,uwat.png,KaDT+aDC5rFkUavkXbsQLw==,US,,1491655711 120112269,120152334,2017-04-08 12:50:24,">>120152038 >>i've never had a job in my life or had to pay rent general You're thinking of the communist general, friend.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491655824 120112269,120152513,2017-04-08 12:52:10,">>120152121 Yes, a free market with no central bank will have a massive service sector economy with high wages. Cute anime traps 4 all",,Anonymous,1477726744537.png,TG8zE45Qk2fHVJhKVxX+MQ==,CA,,1491655930 120112269,120152650,2017-04-08 12:53:30,">>120149603 That's what I meant by refutation: empirical proof that their lifestyle is destructive, unsustainable and contra Nature. And add an Austrian twist to it with time preference and all that. I'm sure (((they))) would be furious.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491656010 120112269,120152827,2017-04-08 12:55:05,>>120152121,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1491656105 120112269,120152883,2017-04-08 12:55:39,">>120152121 ayumi is the SECOND(2ND) biggest tool!",,Anonymous,latest[1].png,rIqKoPFh9W4KUjuEM3dXqQ==,US,,1491656139 120112269,120152992,2017-04-08 12:56:35,">>120152650 https://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/whatsitworth-complete.pdf",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491656195 120112269,120153019,2017-04-08 12:56:47,">>120152121 Not in my covenant. Fags are subject to removal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491656207 120112269,120153644,2017-04-08 13:02:24,">>120152827 Why does Hoppe hate homosexuals and other form of perceived moral decay? Surely the majority of those actions are acceptable insofar as they do not affect economic policy or rights?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491656544 120112269,120153667,2017-04-08 13:02:37,">>120152334 This general is the ""How dare the state take money that isn't mine out of my paycheck general""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491656557 120112269,120153942,2017-04-08 13:05:08,">>120153644 Higher time preference. He's also read a lot of Rusthon, Lynn, Banfield, perhaps their books have data about fags.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491656708 120112269,120154023,2017-04-08 13:05:51,">>120153667 >money that isn't mine great bait",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491656751 120112269,120154310,2017-04-08 13:08:29,anyone got the right wing alliance pic?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491656909 120112269,120154422,2017-04-08 13:09:30,>>120153667,,Anonymous,DontBait.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1491656970 120112269,120154445,2017-04-08 13:09:39,">>120153942 >Higher time preference In reference to a lack of children increasing time-preference at the end of lifespan? Whilst that is true, does the same not apply to in-celibate heterosexuals - indeed, many homosexuals will adopt or descendants in other ways. Point being, will a society with homosexuals be non-negligibly less civilised than one with without?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491656979 120112269,120154636,2017-04-08 13:11:25,">>120154310 Nah but I got some related pics",,Anonymous,JOINorDIE.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,US,,1491657085 120112269,120155106,2017-04-08 13:15:29,">>120154445 >will a society with homosexuals be non-negligibly less civilised than one with without? I'm not familiar enough with this on a large scale or on a scientific scale, but given the infographics I have collected, my personal experiences around fags, and the atrocities I see whenever I google ""gay pride parade,"" I'd be inclined to say yes.",,Anonymous,fags BTFO.jpg,WanAWN5sXegY7wZnU/Itwg==,PT,,1491657329 120112269,120155144,2017-04-08 13:15:55,">>120152513 >>120152883 Truly a Libertarian society is the best society then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491657355 120112269,120155154,2017-04-08 13:16:01,>>120154445,,Anonymous,fags BTFO 2.png,bEmf9LS1pss8yY/biv8BVg==,PT,,1491657361 120112269,120155191,2017-04-08 13:16:21,">>120154023 >>120154422 The money was never yours to begin with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491657381 120112269,120155233,2017-04-08 13:16:43,">>120154445 3",,Anonymous,fags BTFO 3.png,wUpE9jQVJMNchfTvQdwF4w==,PT,,1491657403 120112269,120155302,2017-04-08 13:17:17,">>120154445 and that's all I have on homos.",,Anonymous,fags BTFO 4.jpg,mV7ICj4+zz2Ynb6/iLI7IQ==,PT,,1491657437 120112269,120155343,2017-04-08 13:17:40,">>120155191 kys faggot",,Anonymous,1486086694021.jpg,7qXNiUQi6C88fKr/vUlqYQ==,SE,,1491657460 120112269,120155509,2017-04-08 13:19:02,None of you can top my level of Ancap-ness,,Anonymous,1490299835034.png,4GuNuDHGx0LnHZNtTmhQOg==,US,,1491657542 120112269,120155539,2017-04-08 13:19:13,">>120155191 >The money was never yours to begin with. Yes, the money belongs to the jews and to pay interest on the national debt.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491657553 120112269,120155548,2017-04-08 13:19:16,">>120112269 I used to be an ancap too, but then I took the ultimate black pill",,Anonymous,1political-left-right-spectrum-3.0.1.jpg,mnr8HNSlGmNr1PyMpi01LQ==,RU,,1491657556 120112269,120155661,2017-04-08 13:20:05,">>120155343 You first",,Anonymous,zzzzmisc21.jpg,W7bhTg2oltXKeLMSKUXOAQ==,US,,1491657605 120112269,120156120,2017-04-08 13:24:01,">>120155539 Is this even an argument or are you just stating facts? There's a reason people hoard precious metals and other valuables instead of worthless paper monies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491657841 120112269,120156184,2017-04-08 13:24:35,">>120152650 >>120152992 That report is actually pretty golden. One reads: >School Student Counseling has the highest proportion of African-American Bachelor’s degree holders (38 percent), followed by Human Services and Community Organization (21 percent) and Counseling Psychology (20 percent). And then >Counseling Psychology is the lowest-paying Bachelor’s degree major with a median of $29,000 and a 75th percentile peak of $42,000. This is followed by Early Childhood Education, with median earnings of $36,000 and Theology and Religious Vocations and Human Services and Community Organization, which both have median earnings of $38,000. (See Tables 12-13) So black people go into (1) School student counseling, (2) Community organization and (3) Counseling psychology, which happen to be among the lowest paying majors. YEAAAAAAAH (I'm sure that income gap is due to systemic racism though. We need more gibs.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491657875 120112269,120156195,2017-04-08 13:24:42,Fuck the state,,Anonymous,IMG_1894.jpg,esrFKibAcKUlrUH1ZbiF8Q==,US,,1491657882 120112269,120156294,2017-04-08 13:25:36,">>120155191 What the fuck is that even supposed to mean.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1491657936 120112269,120156449,2017-04-08 13:26:57,">>120152650 >>120156184 >>120152992 Look at this pic and tell me how many of these degrees are for private sector jobs. This is amazing. I count one.",,Anonymous,african american most popular degree.png,i6Dh7/8Fv2VwG/vB9Bfnfg==,CA,,1491658017 120112269,120156588,2017-04-08 13:28:22,"The state enforces the use of that worthless paper by sending you to jail if you don't pay taxes with that worthless paper. The usage of that paper is mandatory up until a certain point. So no, we don't complain about the state taking money, we complain about the state stealing our labor.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491658102 120112269,120156594,2017-04-08 13:28:23,">>120156449 >>120152650 Compare the asian distribution. This is fucking insane. But IQ isn't real though.",,Anonymous,asian most popular majors.png,X6qX99eACl81Oho6J5XqQw==,CA,,1491658103 120112269,120156663,2017-04-08 13:28:54,">>120156588 >>120153667",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491658134 120112269,120157034,2017-04-08 13:32:02,">>120156594 Ugh I hate racist statistics like this.",,Anonymous,cucking.jpg,sMV8XKBIGUTXnyZK4Twn5w==,SE,,1491658322 120112269,120157047,2017-04-08 13:32:06,">>120156184 >>120156449 >>120156594 I follow you man. Amazing how libs ignore the Asians in these based fields of study.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491658326 120112269,120157274,2017-04-08 13:34:06,">>120156588 Using this logic how is an employer not stealing your labor in the same way?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491658446 120112269,120157650,2017-04-08 13:37:18,">>120157274 not him, but one thing to point out is that the working class consumes 99% of all consumer goods. the working class literally gets to consume what they produce",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491658638 120112269,120157895,2017-04-08 13:39:20,">>120155106 >>120155154 >>120155233 >>120155302 That is actually true that a large majority of gay people are pretty degenerate. I'm not entirely certain it's an inherent trait - that any society with homosexuals will do worse than one without. Obviously, property owners have an absolute right to discriminate, I just highly doubt that many communities would advocate for absolute removal of people for being homosexual. In a libertarian society, I would assume things would sort themselves out to maintain a decent society. I suppose this comes down to a nature vs culture thing and I fail to see how homosexual behaviour is inherently unnatural and destructive but rather laced in a culture that libertarianism heavily discourages. As much as I hate identity politics, this has piqued my interest.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491658760 120112269,120158112,2017-04-08 13:41:13,">>120157650 If they can afford it. Besides, what statistics are backing up your 99%?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491658873 120112269,120158521,2017-04-08 13:44:38,">>120158112 >Besides, what statistics are backing up your 99%? The amount of capitalists in the economy are a very small amount. That's why you people call them the 1%. Well, they only consume around 1% of resources. They save the rest of their money. Did you see Warren Buffet's house? It's not that big. >If they can afford it Of course they can afford it because they are actually consuming it. This is the final redpill.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491659078 120112269,120158534,2017-04-08 13:44:44,">>120157047 I. AM. FUCKING. LAUGHING. >MUH WAGE GAP >MUH RACISM",,Anonymous,major - summary table 10k hour photoshop.png,REGoJerOsNr2qZWKEodlkw==,CA,,1491659084 120112269,120158869,2017-04-08 13:47:53,">>120157274 Because I won't go to jail if I don't work for my employer. And because I don't even need to leave my neighborhood to find thousands of alternatives to that employer. Those two things cannot be said about the state.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491659273 120112269,120158894,2017-04-08 13:48:06,"The ancap natsoc team up is a forced meme. Who is shilling this? >anyone who wants to lump all libertarians in with Nazi's",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491659286 120112269,120159109,2017-04-08 13:49:51,">>120158534 Yes. The facts are not on the lefts side. All they have is feels to push their shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491659391 120112269,120159130,2017-04-08 13:50:01,">>120158894 Natsoc's are the easiest to convert to free market nationalism. It's best not to irrationally hate them and instead convert them.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491659401 120112269,120159170,2017-04-08 13:50:17,">>120158534 Asian-white friendship table.",,Anonymous,major - asian white friendship table.png,NmVFn0QifVva2AO0M+kLNA==,CA,,1491659417 120112269,120159282,2017-04-08 13:51:17,">>120157895 I agree, although I believe homosexuality would be more expensive than heterosexuality in a free market.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491659477 120112269,120159452,2017-04-08 13:52:47,">>120159282 This.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491659567 120112269,120159630,2017-04-08 13:54:14,">>120159282 How? Childlessness tells me that's not the case.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491659654 120112269,120159642,2017-04-08 13:54:17,">>120158894 I shilled it. It didnt work because libertarians can unite for for shit. Half of libertarians want to bake fag cakes, and the other half want to abolish the Jewish state via genocide.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491659657 120112269,120159716,2017-04-08 13:55:03,">>120159282 How so?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491659703 120112269,120159805,2017-04-08 13:55:40,">>120158521 You can't really red pill me if you don't really tell me anything. All you're really giving me is saying that the rich are the smallest percentage of the population.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491659740 120112269,120159822,2017-04-08 13:55:46,">>120159642 Can't*",,Anonymous,Pol__2_.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1491659746 120112269,120159955,2017-04-08 13:57:09,"If someone had the cash and the resources should they be allowed to >Be gay >Be Transsexual >Import foreign workers provided it kept them on their land >Raise their children trans or gay >Have interracial kids >Sell hard drugs and get a supply of addicted addicts >Abortions >Be an actual peaceful Muslim >Form their own cumminst commune provided this commune didn't harm others outside of it's land >Also say a child loses it's parents should it be allowed to die on the street >Also what about the protection of other things which don't make a profit like art gallery's and war graves national parks etc Not a shitpost actually asking",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491659829 120112269,120159977,2017-04-08 13:57:19,">>120159630 >>120159716 Less health/insurance expenses with STDs, less social strife because of protests (muh ""we should donate blood too!""), less red light districts and tolerance for pederasty (which harms the family in the long run).",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491659839 120112269,120160093,2017-04-08 13:58:13,">>120159822 This looks really nice.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491659893 120112269,120160322,2017-04-08 14:00:00,">>120159955 >>Be gay >Be Transsexual >Import foreign workers provided it kept them on their land >Raise their children trans or gay >Have interracial kids >Sell hard drugs and get a supply of addicted addicts >Abortions >Be an actual peaceful Muslim >Form their own cumminst commune provided this commune didn't harm others outside of it's land Yes, but as you said, ""Hippity hoppity but not on my property!"" and people are naturally repulsed by all those things so it wouldn't be a problem in the long run. >Also say a child loses it's parents should it be allowed to die on the street Street is privately owned, child must be returned to owner. Also, the parent would most likely search for him. >Also what about the protection of other things which don't make a profit like art gallery's and war graves national parks etc Privatize them, live off donations and purchase of tickets.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491660000 120112269,120160482,2017-04-08 14:01:10,">>120159977 Are those inherently homosexual behaviours or just leftists-homosexual agendas?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491660070 120112269,120160689,2017-04-08 14:03:01,">>120160482 I believe homosexuals are intrinsically parasitical and harmful to society. Perhaps only a handful of them are decent people who resist their urges to commit acts of sodomy and strive to live a non-degenerate life.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491660181 120112269,120160718,2017-04-08 14:03:14,">>120133841 exactly, minarchist are still statist and not welcome in ancapias, ancapias are meant to be exclusive to absolutly civilized human beings, not half beasts.",,Anonymous,1488125801717.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,ES,,1491660194 120112269,120160803,2017-04-08 14:04:00,">>120159805 The redpill is that since the rich are such a small % of the population it means they consume very little. What the working class produces they also consume. Even if every capitalist raised wages by 5 dollars an hour right now living standards will be the same. Even if every capitalist LOWERED wages by 5 dollars an hour right now living standards will be the same. Prices will just adjust to this new level of demand. The working class consumes the same amount of resources regardless. The only way to increase living standards for the working class is to increase the SUPPLY, that is increase the level of economic production and efficiency to produce more things with less work.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491660240 120112269,120161271,2017-04-08 14:07:59,">>120160689 Seems to me that homosexuals can be productive citizens employed in such a way that they produce plus-value. I see no reason to assume them to be parasitical from the point of view of capital accumulation.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491660479 120112269,120161310,2017-04-08 14:08:22,">>120141015 Copying something is not theft or fraud and therefore not a crime. Society can call out copiers for being assholes, but prosecuting copiers is invalid. If one claims he created an idea when in fact he did not, then he is a fraud, and proceedings may go forward.",,Anonymous,tresspassmeme.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,US,,1491660502 120112269,120161333,2017-04-08 14:08:35,">>120160322 >Street is privately owned, child must be returned to owner. Also, the parent would most likely search for him. I meant if the child's parents were dead and there were no other relatives Should it legally be allowed to starve to death? >Privatize them, live off donations and purchase of tickets. But these place don't make enough for a positive income as it is now even with government money they still need more for actual upkeep. Without state funding some of these war graves,national parks museums etc will 100% go bust Should these places just close down then and be let to rot since they don't actually make enough cash to run. And the few which actually do make a tiny profit I'm no expert but the upkeep of Ancient Roman ruins or Dinosaur bones has got to be in the millions each year And that got me thinking how would immigration work in a Ancap society if I was Muslim could I invite other Muslims over since they would only be on my property That's about all my questions",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491660515 120112269,120161471,2017-04-08 14:09:42,">>120155509 implying you can't just jump off the purple corner of the square and stop being statist completly",,Anonymous,VnnY97Ul.jpg,R/84uRRrTA41cb7UUvr8Ww==,ES,,1491660582 120112269,120161548,2017-04-08 14:10:22,">>120161271 Sure, that could happen. Still not coming into my covenant, sorry. I want to protect the family. By the way, guys, new thread >>120161342 >>120161342 >>120161342 >>120161342 >>120161342 >>120161342",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491660622 120112269,120161551,2017-04-08 14:10:24,">>120160803 Why shouldn't the workers just cut out the middle man (capitalist) and produce for the the betterment of the working class? As opposed to the betterment of the capitalist's profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491660624 120112269,120161675,2017-04-08 14:11:32,">>120161471 that bird is sure homesteading that tree",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491660692 120112269,120161791,2017-04-08 14:12:34,">>120159716 Because nobody discriminates a heterosexual person -> higher offer of services, more competition, lower prices in general. I also think that lower class individuals have a worse view on homosexuals, which leads me to believe communities accepting homosexuality would be, in average, more expensive. Also, as portubro said, more externalities which often lead to higher insurance costs. That being said, it's hard to foresee what would happen, this is just how I'd predict the market to react long term. Certainly these premises grow larger as the degeneracy does, a gender-fluid blablabla person would have it even more expensive.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491660754 120112269,120161943,2017-04-08 14:13:47,">>120161791 >Certainly these premises grow larger as the degeneracy does, a gender-fluid blablabla person would have it even more expensive. Yes, I also don't see how the main body of society, which would be comprised of families and ""normal people,"" would have any tolerance for this post modernist bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491660827 120112269,120162156,2017-04-08 14:15:33,">>120161551 >Why shouldn't the workers just cut out the middle man (capitalist) Because the capitalist plans the structure of production? Anyone who saves enough capital and/or gets a loan will be able to do this. The more the free market progresses, prices come down and it becomes even EASIER for a worker to start a business and compete. Also lets say you cut out the capitalist and for some magical reason the economy didn't collapse or go to shit(protip: it will). You gained 1% in living standards one time. Wow, that's great. Who gives a fuck? You really aren't gaining anything. The profit argument is irrelevant. Money is just paper, it's not actual physical value or consumption. The capitalist saves the profit and/or reinvests it back into the firm. The fact he's NOT spending money means he's not consuming society's resources.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491660933 120112269,120162410,2017-04-08 14:17:54,>>120152513,,Anonymous,cat_girls.jpg,9jC3JAZ45GZUp6aZx6zF9w==,ES,,1491661074 120112269,120162537,2017-04-08 14:19:01,">>120161943 I doubt most people would care desu - why should they, the affect on them is very low.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491661141 120112269,120162730,2017-04-08 14:20:45,">>120161551 Suppose the workers did indeed cut out the capitalist. They would still have to do whatever it was that the capitalists were doing. The function of the capitalist as someone who tries to anticipate the future demand of the consumer and plan accordingly cannot and never will go away. No matter who does this work will, presumably, have to be paid for it and, what's more, a measure of success and failure will have to be devised. In capitalism, this is simply the system of profit and loss. A capitalist who successfully put production factors to good use for the production of some consumer good (or some other goods) has to receive a signal that he did good, which is profit. To say that the worker should cut out the middle man is to say that he should himself become the capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491661245 120112269,120162943,2017-04-08 14:22:30,"/lrg/ is the most based general on /pol/ We may need some more oc, but apart of that we're gud. >>120117301 This is just beautiful. Can someone deliver a few easily understandable snekpills for my degenerate RL friends?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491661350 120112478,120112478,2017-04-08 05:37:46,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FUCK TRUMP & STATISM EDITION This thread is for the discussion of libertarianism, capitalism, anarcho-capitalism and PRIVATE DEATH SQUADS. >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Economics in One Lesson - Henry Hazlitt https://mises.org/system/tdf/Henry%20Hazlitt%20Economics%20in%20One%20Lesson.pdf?file=1&type=document >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1491290562986.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,DE,,1491629866 120112478,120112501,2017-04-08 05:38:04,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491629884 120112478,120112531,2017-04-08 05:38:26,,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491629906 120112478,120112589,2017-04-08 05:39:19,How do we meme Ron Paul 2020 into office?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491629959 120112478,120112650,2017-04-08 05:40:09,">>120112531 hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491630009 120112478,120112681,2017-04-08 05:40:32,">>120112589 he will be too old in 2020 Rand is only somewhat an alternative but still infinitely better than Drumpf",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491630032 120112478,120115897,2017-04-08 06:25:36,">>120112589 >>120112681 Ron paul will never be president, and after doing some research I think BLumPfK acctualy made a baller move.",,Anonymous,efa372d1c26d2359176a07034294654d0f1d54ef8aef2ee567a6b82053a1c962.png,VIoxRrdj/QDu/Xzks6O58Q==,US,,1491632736 120161342,120161342,2017-04-08 14:08:39,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc Continued from >>120112269",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - A PRIORI TRUTH EDITION,Anonymous,lrg.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,PT,,1491660519 120161342,120161608,2017-04-08 14:10:55,,,Anonymous,ancap squad_00000.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1491660655 120161342,120161646,2017-04-08 14:11:20,,,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1491660680 120161342,120161714,2017-04-08 14:11:47,,,Anonymous,rothbard pepe background.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,PT,,1491660707 120161342,120161772,2017-04-08 14:12:23,,,Anonymous,mises pepe background.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,PT,,1491660743 120161342,120161855,2017-04-08 14:13:01,"I'd actually like us to collect some data or research papers in order to do an analysis of the SJW phenomena from an economic point of view. First, it would be interesting to analyze the way in which the government subsidize colleges so as to encourage the creation of SJWs. Second, we would have to have some kind of analysis of the marketability of various SJWs degrees so as to demonstrate just how useless they are. Third, we could analyze the behavior of the SJWs from the point of view of human action. Namely, as SJWs do not have marketable skills, they cannot engage in voluntary exchanges for their end product, which is SJW analysis. https://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/whatsitworth-complete.pdf See pic related for hilarity.",,Anonymous,major - summary table 10k hour photoshop.png,REGoJerOsNr2qZWKEodlkw==,CA,,1491660781 120161342,120162308,2017-04-08 14:17:00,">>120161342 Last thread went pretty well, I don't see us hit bump limit often. Second for liberty.",,Anonymous,1490908082352.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,GB,,1491661020 120161342,120162471,2017-04-08 14:18:24,">>120161342 If polycentric law means that all government is local, what prevents a town from deciding that they want minimum wage, unemployment benefits, environmental protection laws, etc?",,Anonymous,thinking_man_z3FeeP.png,m7J5TaF4NRn48+aI7C5Vpg==,US,,1491661104 120161342,120162679,2017-04-08 14:20:19,">>120162471 Nothing. But ask yourself, why would people advocate for laws that aren't in their best interest? Compared to a democratic current system where they have no choice but to be compliant under the tyranny of the state, as democracy discourages people from voting.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491661219 120161342,120162815,2017-04-08 14:21:27,">>120161342 Hi Portugalbro",,Anonymous,1487019892402.jpg,YbRq+gV3Zac2eSmXE+mJdw==,DE,,1491661287 120161342,120162892,2017-04-08 14:22:00,">>120162679 >why would people advocate for laws that aren't in their best interest? But anon, the vast majority of people DO support those things. In any scenario where the population is enabled to influence law, such mechanisms will come into being purely by their innate popularity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491661320 120161342,120162913,2017-04-08 14:22:12,"Okay my other questions were answered (which all ended it you can be degenerate as you like but the community might say fuck you to you and may not help you) >Just my last few questions If a child's parents were dead and there were no other relatives Should the child legally be allowed to starve to death? >And no charities can't take in and feed all the children and families don't just adopt children all the time >Privatize them, live off donations and purchase of tickets. But these place don't make enough for a positive income as it is now even with government money they still need more for actual upkeep. Without state funding some of these war graves,national parks museums etc will 100% go bust Should these places just close down then and be let to rot since they don't actually make enough cash to run. I'm no expert but I do know the upkeep of Ancient Roman ruins from weather,vandals,animals and other such things is in the millions each year and these lesser known ruins in Italy for example will collapse and be lost without state funding since they do not make enough for maintenance each year And that got me thinking how would immigration work in a Ancap society if I was Muslim could I invite other Muslims over since they would only be on my property That's about all my questions",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491661332 120161342,120163104,2017-04-08 14:23:49,">>120162471 Self interest and market optimization. Market optimization will make it so that the less fluid/subjected to democracy communities will be more prosperous. Self interest because rich people will go to the most optimal communities for their interest. Chances are, democrats and communists will have to swallow their beliefs and sign against them because they will need a job, and these will be there where their ideas are banned. That is, if after a while there are still communists, nothing shows what ideas are good and what ideas aren't like the market.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491661429 120161342,120163110,2017-04-08 14:23:53,">>120162892 >physically seperate socialists from civilised society >suddenly, people don't want these laws",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491661433 120161342,120163376,2017-04-08 14:26:13,We need more anime.,,Anonymous,L6QBbJN.jpg,SOW+lvRD3FIrNN4kRXN/GQ==,CA,,1491661573 120161342,120163403,2017-04-08 14:26:29,">>120163110 If you removed everybody who supports all those things, you'd end up with a very small population, which would easily be out-numbered and overpowered.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491661589 120161342,120163455,2017-04-08 14:26:53,">>120162892 They don't support those things, they support those things enforced onto anyone but themselves. When people vote with a ballot, they do it with your wallet, when they vote with their feet, they do it with theirs.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491661613 120161342,120163527,2017-04-08 14:27:31,">>120163104 >Self interest Most people would see these mechanisms as being in their self-interest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491661651 120161342,120163594,2017-04-08 14:28:14,">>120162815 Hello Germanbro.",,Anonymous,1442623-1-L.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,PT,,1491661694 120161342,120163794,2017-04-08 14:29:56,"So ancaps. What do you do when another country uses their military to attack your libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491661796 120161342,120163800,2017-04-08 14:30:00,">>120163455 >Nobody actually supports minimum wage, unemployment benefits, paid leave, etc >It's just a socialist conspiracy that these things are universally popular The delusion is so thick you could cut it with a knife.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491661800 120161342,120164031,2017-04-08 14:31:45,">>120163794 Exactly what people in today's society would do",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491661905 120161342,120164171,2017-04-08 14:33:00,">>120164031 What? Do nothing and let their government/military take care of it?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491661980 120161342,120164262,2017-04-08 14:33:49,">>120164171 Do nothing and let the private military take care of it, yes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491662029 120161342,120164279,2017-04-08 14:33:56,">>120163794 I've already answered you this so many times I'm just gonna leave you with the quote and ask you to read the book if you're genuinely interested.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1491662036 120161342,120164288,2017-04-08 14:34:02,wake me up inside,,Anonymous,holy_kek.jpg,Jeo+qp12bsY/dIMEJCvT4Q==,ES,,1491662042 120161342,120164345,2017-04-08 14:34:41,">>120164262 >private military hahahahahaahahahhaahhahahahahahahahaha",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491662081 120161342,120164385,2017-04-08 14:35:01,">>120163794 Privitized military boyo. Volunteer militias. If 1% of gun owners went to go fight we'd have the largest military in the world.",,Anonymous,1490740236261.jpg,jRkO+mFN0l5MrCj1tgVCmg==,US,,1491662101 120161342,120164454,2017-04-08 14:35:40,">>120164262 >Relying on mercenaries as your sole form of defense",,Anonymous,Thinking-Man.jpg,d2vE40l7ZSecVPjwf68aRQ==,US,,1491662140 120161342,120164483,2017-04-08 14:35:56,">>120164262 >people are going to willingly join the private military Where does the private military get it's money without taxes?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491662156 120161342,120164491,2017-04-08 14:35:58,How would a Ancap Italy come up with the funds to protect Pompeii and Herculaneum and all the other sites when just Pompeii by itself needs US$335 million to carry out all the works necessary in Pompeii alone?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491662158 120161342,120164554,2017-04-08 14:36:31,">>120164279 >I've already answered you this I'm not the same anon. I'm a minarchist. You guys are cool though, I'm mainly playing devils advocate.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491662191 120161342,120164615,2017-04-08 14:37:00,">>120164483 War is unprofitable for sole businesses",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491662220 120161342,120164664,2017-04-08 14:37:27,">>120164615 Some*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491662247 120161342,120164720,2017-04-08 14:37:55,">>120164615 >War is unprofitable exactly How will the ancap military function with no monies",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491662275 120161342,120164722,2017-04-08 14:37:55,">>120162471 Nothing! One of the amazing things about libertarianism is people can choose to live however the fuck they want to. If they want to live in a community that has all of those things, they can.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491662275 120161342,120164785,2017-04-08 14:38:28,">>120164491 Just a nuke.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491662308 120161342,120164823,2017-04-08 14:38:42,HELICOPTER CHAN,,Anonymous,1486320109672.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,CA,,1491662322 120161342,120165141,2017-04-08 14:41:10,">>120163800 You didn't understand me. These things are popular IN DEMOCRACY, but why would companies settle in those areas where their business are heavily exposed to this kind of democracy? If the business don't settle there, then covenants would have an incentive to forbid by contract that level of democracy. In the end, lefties will have to move to capitalist covenants, because that's where prosperity is, and they will be asked to resign to their stupid ideas, because the covenants that ask this will be the most prosperous. I know a lot of leftists who want to move to Switzerland, I don't think I know one who wanted to move to Greeze after Syriza won.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491662470 120161342,120165408,2017-04-08 14:43:19,">>120163527 Self-interest of the landowners, not the peasants. Their property's value would tank immensely by the implementation of those regulations.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491662599 120161342,120165420,2017-04-08 14:43:23,">>120163794 Every single thread, without fail, someone asks this thinking it's an original question. Can we add a FAQ segment to the OP or do you all think it's bloated enough already?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491662603 120161342,120165590,2017-04-08 14:44:48,">>120165141 >why would companies settle in those areas where their business are heavily exposed to this kind of democracy? In the last thread, you said that polycentric law meant that EVERY town could decide their own laws. If that's true that pretty much every town WOULD have ""exposure"" to such democracy because it would be fucking everywhere. >>120165408 >Protecting the environment lowers your property value The exact opposite is true. Nobody wants to live in a place without trees or plants.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491662688 120161342,120165715,2017-04-08 14:45:46,">>120165420 >someone asks this thinking it's an original question. I know it's not an original question, I'm just curious as to what you guys have to say about it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491662746 120161342,120165905,2017-04-08 14:47:29,">>120165420 >Every single thread, without fail, someone asks this thinking it's an original question This is true. This question DOES get asked every thread. Why? Because ancaps have no answer for it. A society that can't defend itself will be destroyed instantly, from within and from without. >B-but muh private militias....",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491662849 120161342,120166266,2017-04-08 14:50:50,">>120165905 >answers I don't like don't exist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491663050 120161342,120166280,2017-04-08 14:50:59,">>120164554 I meant ""you"" as in the ""but what about warlords?"" people.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491663059 120161342,120166402,2017-04-08 14:51:55,">>120165408 >Self-interest of the landowners, not the peasants. So you admit that ancap is indistinguishable from feudalism? I applaud your honesty. >>120166266 How are tiny private militias going to be relevant in comparison to states with tomahawk cruise missiles?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491663115 120161342,120166438,2017-04-08 14:52:16,">>120165590 >In the last thread, you said that polycentric law meant that EVERY town could decide their own laws. If that's true that pretty much every town WOULD have ""exposure"" to such democracy because it would be fucking everywhere. They would decide their laws but that doesn't mean these laws are exposed to democracy. These laws would be contracts between the landowner and the tenants. Imagine seasteading cities, where the owner of those cities would sell you a property in exchange for you accepting certain rules. There COULD be covenants that accepted democracy, by contract, but I believe they wouldn't be very prosperous compared to those that didn't. >The exact opposite is true. Nobody wants to live in a place without trees or plants. I agree. I was referring mostly to minimum wages, unemployment benefits. I think respect for the environment will be, indeed, in the interest of landlords, so they will include it in their contracts.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491663136 120161342,120166446,2017-04-08 14:52:19,">>120161342 Never figured a Portuguese would be running the AnCap/Libertarian threads, ha. Of all the movements in the past half century in America...communist hippies, neoconservatism, progressivism, whatever Trumpf is, etc... Libertarianism is the one and only movement that has just slowly but consistently grown year after year. And it's because unlike any of the other groups that come and go Libertarians actually have rational foundation for their common beliefs...ie PRINCIPLES. I'm Libertarian now, and I doubt I'll see things any different philosophically 50 years from now. Our beliefs are as constant as a belief in gravity. Unless some new earth shattering data is found or the laws of physics cease to apply, we don't flip flop. That's why Libertarians can slowly add new members and retain them better than anyone else. It's not emotional GOP/Dem bullshit, it's just real...logical, empiric, consistent, etc. /diatribe.",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,Zt/MQ6WBsO+eeBOyXWQsWg==,US,,1491663139 120161342,120166601,2017-04-08 14:53:39,">>120166438 Why would anybody accept an ""contract"" without a government to enforce it? A contract with no government backing it is just a scrap of paper.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491663219 120161342,120166874,2017-04-08 14:56:05,">>120165715 Copypasted from another thread >I believe people tend towards corruption as a matter of self-interest, so what is to stop someone from creating a local monopoly on justice? While there might be more just individuals offering justice elsewhere, what is to stop someone from creating a local monopoly of injustice and corruption? Great question. The answer is that most people would be armed to the teeth in case this problem ever arose. After all, who would first give up their arms (the most immediate and personal form of self-defense) in order to be protected by a supposed insurance/defense agency? Insurers and defense agencies would be interested in having their clients armed (and well-trained), so as to deter criminality and therefore keep premium prices low. In case this did not happen, and indeed one company decided to attempt to become a rogue monopolist, these questions arise: a) How would they fund it? After all, that company too must have had massive capital in order to attempt pulling off such stunt. If any security agency decided to aggress against its own customers by becoming a monopoly, it would go instantly bankrupt because people would simply stop paying up. b) Who would give them weapons? Since there would be no state to attack and no state apparatus to immediately take over, the rogue agency would need to knock on everyone's door to demand the payment of their fraudulent services (taxation). They would encounter resistance movements and guerrilla warfare tactics used by their previous customers or other people. c) And what would they do with other companies? The other companies, in attempting to fulfill their promises as a property rights enforcer, would most certainly jump in and assist their own customers at fighting and ultimately destroying the rogue company. The would-be monopolist would after all be a massive insurance risk since they'd have to destroy and expropriate massive amounts of property, thus raising crime and premiums.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491663365 120161342,120167087,2017-04-08 14:57:52,">>120166601 Because if you broke the contract you would be physically removed from the covenant by the violence of the security firm you signed you would be exposed to in said contract.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491663472 120161342,120167143,2017-04-08 14:58:22,Who are the best content producers putting right libertarian content currently? I'm looking for some new stuff to check out.,,Anonymous,1488722971959.png,/5STPt46nKp0B1BEoYK7rg==,US,,1491663502 120161342,120167155,2017-04-08 14:58:28,"I wonder which one of you faggots this is. >Hoppe pic >Muh ebil nazis >Childless single men with waifu pillows I was wondering where the influx of cuckbertarians came from and now I know. Go back to your sub red.dit you worthless termites.",,Anonymous,march against trump shills.png,DfkWW3F+SG1I6A01wCqObg==,CA,,1491663508 120161342,120167200,2017-04-08 14:58:50,">>120167087 >you would be physically removed from the covenant By who? The non-existent police?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491663530 120161342,120167230,2017-04-08 14:59:07,">>120161342 Ok, Portobro, now I ask: How many hours a day are you on this site?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491663547 120161342,120167269,2017-04-08 14:59:27,"Okay here are all my questions reformatted >Should a child with no parents legally be allowed to starve to death? >Should places such as Museums,war-graves etc that DO NOT MAKE A PROFIT be left to rot due to no funding? >How would a Ancap Italy come up with the funds to protect Pompeii and Herculaneum and all the other sites when just Pompeii by itself needs US$335 million to carry out all the works necessary in Pompeii alone? How would a Ancap society defend itself considering a war effort needs armored vehicles,aircraft,navy trained officers and regulars and people who know how to operate,repair and run all of these? >I can't see Ancap Poland or Russia putting up much of a fight against Nazi Germany and any """"""""""resistance"""""""""" groups attacks just get more civs killed in German reprisal attacks which would burn down crops and line up 10 civs for every soldier killed being we are no longer in a wild west but a industrialized world with total war and if Nazi Germany wanted to expel Russians form Ancap Russia they sure as hell could",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491663567 120161342,120167520,2017-04-08 15:01:38,">>120167230 I visit from time to time and then leave it open while I go do other stuff, and post occasionally. In terms of hours, I'd say two intertwined with other stuff but that's around it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491663698 120161342,120167531,2017-04-08 15:01:42,">>120167200 You believe prosperous covenants would not have a provision in their contract for what would happen if contract was not respected? You believe prosperous covenants would not have an in-house security firm or an external one hired to enforce contracts and provide security to the tenants? Seriously man, you're making me argue for basic logic here.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491663702 120161342,120167782,2017-04-08 15:03:42,">>120166402 Why would a powerful state with tomahawk missiles and whatever else want to attack a decentralised region (no state institutions to occupy) which likely houses many producers of things it imports and where all the people are heavily armed. There would also be private military services that could be hired to defend the area, who would have advanced weaponry (missiles, tanks, etc) as well.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491663822 120161342,120167851,2017-04-08 15:04:14,"More info about the ways in which SJWs are more or less bottom feeders. We can expect them to be in >Social sciences >Communication and journalism >Humanities and liberal arts >Arts >Education >Pyschology and social work In other words, the SJWs are located lower on the earning curve, and as a result and incentivized to ask for wealth transfer from the government, mostly in the forms of jobs created for them.",,Anonymous,major - median earning major groups.png,bo4l1vjjTXEWUQB5QIUsEQ==,CA,,1491663854 120161342,120167980,2017-04-08 15:05:11,">>120161342 I only got past a chunk of the first chapter last night, everything he said about ww1 I knew already. He kinda kinda tied into JQ territory when he spoke of democracy enabling the Bolshevik takeover. Def made me hate Wilson's arrogance trying to topple the monarchs of Europe. (I already knew he was a dick, but now I hate his guts) I left off where he was about to go into his priori theory. I haven't read all that much but I got hooked right away. Definitely interesting from the beginning, no need to force myself to read it.",,Anonymous,IMG_20170407_173054.jpg,C2hp05oTG5lRMBo3nLGzpg==,US,,1491663911 120161342,120167990,2017-04-08 15:05:16,">>120167531 For starters, let's talk about the basic logistics of just trying to get everybody to sign a contract before they can enter a fucking city. NYC has over 500,000 visitors PER DAY. And you're telling me that you're going to hunt down each and every one of them, every single day, and force them to sign this bullshit contract which doesn't even matter because there is no government to enforce it anyway?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491663916 120161342,120168149,2017-04-08 15:06:34,">>120167782 >War is inherently unprofitable >There will be companies centered around war. Pick one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491663994 120161342,120168252,2017-04-08 15:07:27,Is libertarianism the only system where automation actually helps everybody?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491664047 120161342,120168345,2017-04-08 15:08:13,">>120161342 Hoppe is basically a NatSoc in denial. Stop autistically sperging at the mention of socialist and acknowledge that Libertarianism without a defining goal like NatSoc is just as retarded as anarchy.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1491664093 120161342,120168477,2017-04-08 15:09:19,I have a question. How would housing in flats/apartaments work? Will your flat be considered your own property? Or will you have to rent it? What about porches and entrances? Elevators?,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491664159 120161342,120168687,2017-04-08 15:10:54,">>120168345 Hoppe basically believes that the process of civilization starts with the reduction of time preference and the accumulation of physical capital. He's no NatSoc, and I doubt that a person with a view to explain the rise of civilization in terms of capital accumulation would tie himself up to an ideology that barely managed to survive for 20 years.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491664254 120161342,120168837,2017-04-08 15:11:50,">>120168149 I never made the argument that war is unprofitable, you're arguing with two people at once and maybe you're getting the two exchanges confused. There will be a demand for defence contractors/ private military services/ PMCs whatever you want to call them, and supply will rush to meet it. Even if it would be unprofitable to randomly invade areas of land, people would rather be safe than sorry. Maybe after hundreds of years of an-capism things would change, but that's fantasy territory. In the immediate period following total privatisation, the fear of aggression or colonisation will be something people want to defend against.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491664310 120161342,120168942,2017-04-08 15:12:34,">>120168345 >Hoppe is basically a NatSoc in denial Clearly hasn't read anything from him other than the physical removal part. >>120168149 War itself is unprofitable. War prevention and insurance companies (which would also cover war, should the need arise) are not.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491664354 120161342,120168944,2017-04-08 15:12:34,">>120168477 If a man owns the land that a high rise is built on, he would be able to legally rent it out with a binding contract that the tenant signs. It wouldn't be extremely difficult. The owner of the building could make it firearm free or require everyone to own a firearm before moving in. He could have 'public' areas that all tenants are able to meet in and use. He could give the tenants property rights within his own building.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491664354 120161342,120169267,2017-04-08 15:15:11,">>120167990 This situation you describe implies public property. There's no such thing as visitors that have not been invited by someone else in an Anarcho Capitalist society. And in Anarcho Capitalism, the person inviting would be the one responsible for their invitees following the rules.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491664511 120161342,120169273,2017-04-08 15:15:13,">>120168944 Okay, not so different from today. Thanks",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491664513 120161342,120169410,2017-04-08 15:16:18,">>120168252 >Is libertarianism the only system where automation actually helps everybody? YES!! Socialist kiddies claim that capitalism will ""collapse"" thanks to automation and there will be no jobs available and people will revolt against the system. This can't be further from the truth. In a free market with free banking and a naturally DEFLATIONARY currency. As production and automation increases, prices for capital and consumer goods fall. People would need to work less hours to get the money they need to have a comfortable life. Many more people would be working part time, like 2-3 days a week which would only open up slots for more people to work. Also people would be retiring much eariler which also decreases unemployment. As the price of capital goods falls it creates a massive high paying service sector industry that will create countless jobs. There would be no unemployment. Leftists whine that manufacturing jobs will disappear, SO WHAT? There's always new service sector jobs and they will pay more and more since these firms will be profitable. Think of turning the entire country into a giant amusement park. It fucking sucks we don't have a free market now. But whatever it's the world we live in.",,Anonymous,1491171671756.jpg,XlIQkG8wbrbFo253/IUkCQ==,CA,,1491664578 120161342,120169663,2017-04-08 15:18:19,">>120168477 People would search for law frames that are convenient for them, and thus the market would be landlords offering rental or purchase of spaces within their communities in exchange for signing a contract (sort of constitution).",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491664699 120161342,120170177,2017-04-08 15:22:18,">>120169410 This sounds a lot like Venus project",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491664938 120161342,120170488,2017-04-08 15:24:45,">>120170177 It's called free market capitalism. It's the only way to post scarcity. Or at least realistic semi-post scarcity.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491665085 120161342,120171257,2017-04-08 15:30:27,"bump Is there this few of us? This is kind of sad.",,Anonymous,1353540320993.png,ToJnpEms2s4wNkpzgsgrqQ==,CA,,1491665427 120161342,120171703,2017-04-08 15:33:43,">>120169267 >There's no such thing as visitors that have not been invited by someone else in an Anarcho Capitalist society. [this kills the entire tourism industry]",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491665623 120161342,120171725,2017-04-08 15:33:53,">>120171257 There's less than 10 regulars, and then you have the people asking about what'll happen if we get surprise invaded by Genghis Khan 2.0 which will sometimes push us to bump limit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491665633 120161342,120171751,2017-04-08 15:34:08,">>120171257 Most right libertarians have jobs. I just bump during my work hours. After work however I can make some phresh oc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491665648 120161342,120171759,2017-04-08 15:34:10,What is Hoppes thoughts on anime ?,,Anonymous,1488394357065.png,O2h4G0+g25Nk1U6XDd7VGQ==,TR,,1491665650 120161342,120171765,2017-04-08 15:34:12,">>120162471 Nothing. If all of their people go away, it's their fault.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491665652 120161342,120171935,2017-04-08 15:35:31,">>120163794 Thwart their advance and invade them back, take all their shit (muh dik) and retreat back and watch them starve. >what is warfare",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491665731 120161342,120171992,2017-04-08 15:35:55,">>120171759 >What is Hoppes thoughts on anime ? That it's based as fug",,Anonymous,190238475209730.jpg,D51B9oKLxOsrAOS/B3q8Rg==,CA,,1491665755 120161342,120172076,2017-04-08 15:36:37,">>120171759 must be cartoonishly removed",,Anonymous,hoppe-sanglasses.jpg,xPYHlnJ8Byb5vByoB1jjBA==,PT,,1491665797 120161342,120172229,2017-04-08 15:37:52,">>120171759 Weebs are gross, not having that shit.",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1491665872 120161342,120172301,2017-04-08 15:38:22,">>120164720 We're going to take all their shit and then some to fund ourselves at the expense of our enemies. You think nobody would donate to a military? People get half their shit taken from them by the state and they still donate to fucking hentai artists and shit.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491665902 120161342,120172385,2017-04-08 15:39:04,">>120172076 Now I want a Hoppe X initial d edit",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491665944 120161342,120172572,2017-04-08 15:40:38,">>120172385 Bro how do we bring Ancap to the statist cucks here in Turkey? Also my history is bad. Was Özal good or bad?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491666038 120161342,120172879,2017-04-08 15:43:09,">>120171257 I am in a constant struggle between NatSoc and Libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491666189 120161342,120173194,2017-04-08 15:45:35,">>120171257 >minarchist >lurk since the inauguration after i realized ptgs opinion is being molded by trump shills too I don't have much to say honestly, it's not like there are ancap happenings irl. have a bump",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491666335 120161342,120173325,2017-04-08 15:46:41,">>120167155 >r/libertarian Yeah nah mate. From what I've heard, those are lolbergarians over there, not us.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491666401 120161342,120173577,2017-04-08 15:48:42,">>120172879 Why not both?",,Anonymous,Pol__2_.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1491666522 120161342,120173608,2017-04-08 15:49:07,">>120171759 Commies hate anime. Capitalists love anime. Capitalism created anime.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491666547 120161342,120173687,2017-04-08 15:49:49,">>120172572 İdk man maybe after a big civil war we can go back to our ancient way of life and maybe we could live as small clans. I dont know much about Özal desu sorry i dont wanna misinform you. What do you think about LDP are they a meme ?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491666589 120161342,120173742,2017-04-08 15:50:17,">>120173577 Before Trump and flags, /pol/ war purely ideology discussion and some /k/-tier threads. I miss them. Libertarians and NatSoc got along well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491666617 120161342,120173806,2017-04-08 15:50:41,">>120173608 Are you high? Stop by /cg/ and watch commies dump their anime folder. Also everything was created by capitalism because communism doesn't produce anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491666641 120161342,120174242,2017-04-08 15:54:18,">>120167269 >>Should a child with no parents legally be allowed to starve to death? How? We don't have a centrally-planned economy, there's a way they can put themselves to use. Also, we have a no-child-left-behind policy, so in our covenants, that kid is taken care of by any of us. >>Should places such as Museums,war-graves etc that DO NOT MAKE A PROFIT be left to rot due to no funding? Ideally they had been erected by donations and that's how they're gonna be maintained. If not, well, that society does not deserve to remember their past. >>How would a Ancap Italy come up with the funds to protect Pompeii and Herculaneum and all the other sites when just Pompeii by itself needs US$335 million to carry out all the works necessary in Pompeii alone? If a site is discovered (universities do that shit for prestige as much as for knowlege), a fundraiser is launched, with the site later being used as a museum, either on site or separately. >>How would a Ancap society defend itself considering a war effort needs armored vehicles,aircraft,navy trained officers and regulars and people who know how to operate,repair and run all of these? A military is important for the functioning of a society, so all military-abled people are taught how to handle weapons and equipment by those whose time in the militia is up. There's a demand for that shit, you know. Plus people generally like seeing their fuckhuge army parading through their streets. >>I can't see Ancap Poland or Russia putting up much of a fight against Nazi Germany and any """"""""""resistance"""""""""" groups attacks just get more civs killed in German reprisal attacks which would burn down crops and line up 10 civs for every soldier killed being we are no longer in a wild west but a industrialized world with total war and if Nazi Germany wanted to expel Russians form Ancap Russia they sure as hell could Poland used volunteers in 1920 to hold off the (((Soviet))) invasion, mostly ethnically Polish USAF WWI veterans.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491666858 120161342,120174368,2017-04-08 15:55:16,">>120173806 >Stop by /cg/ and watch commies dump their anime folder. what is /cg/? and what the fuck are you talking about? communism bans anime and other forms of bourgeoisie media",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491666916 120161342,120174682,2017-04-08 15:57:30,">>120172385 >>120172572 Don't worry roaches you are safe in this thread. Honorary humans senpai. Stop by Hoppe's hotel in Bordrum when you can.",,Anonymous,1473113246858.jpg,op35mgX+umOfdH8k2ibzZg==,PT,,1491667050 120161342,120174728,2017-04-08 15:57:49,">>120173608 Do you know who ""loves"" anime ? Degenerate faggots.",,Anonymous,1490729109591.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,DE,,1491667069 120161342,120174868,2017-04-08 15:58:57,">>120168345 Oh but we do have a defining goal. Liberty.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491667137 120161342,120174879,2017-04-08 15:59:01,>>120161342,,Anonymous,lhm1jnikz2my.jpg,hoqwoKtLvQPQiEG9D2/2Uw==,US,,1491667141 120161342,120174880,2017-04-08 15:59:02,">>120173687 LDP has meme status among those informed enough, last election saw some LDP memes. They have no chance in Turkish politics. But their policies are the best choice of all the parties in Turkey.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491667142 120161342,120174985,2017-04-08 15:59:43,">>120162913 Legally we are all allowed to starve to death, son",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491667183 120161342,120174996,2017-04-08 15:59:50,">>120174368 Communism gerneral. And commies are obsessed with capitalist entertainment",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491667190 120161342,120175122,2017-04-08 16:00:48,">>120174682 He is having a meet this summer i think .But i dont have any money sooo maybe next year .",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491667248 120161342,120175133,2017-04-08 16:00:51,">>120171703 Not really. It changes it towards a more sustainable method and decentralizes touristic places placing them separated from residential places.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491667251 120161342,120175209,2017-04-08 16:01:33,">>120174996 >>120173806 Literally the same fucking 2 autistic commies post anime in that thread. Anime is a right wing form of media.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491667293 120161342,120175221,2017-04-08 16:01:38,">>120174879 Does that mean you don't own yourself? Sweet. I bet you won't mind driving a cropduster plane with its trunk full of jars of ANFO.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491667298 120161342,120175321,2017-04-08 16:02:23,>>120174879,,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS40Y2RuLm9yZy9wb2wvMTQ5MDU1NTg5Mjc5My5qcGcifQ.t6nnLdG_Ar9hK0CIadRigLF6K7M.jpg,eldX4HxBIWW0NA8MF/7sFw==,DE,,1491667343 120161342,120175386,2017-04-08 16:02:55,">>120175209 I'm sorry, but fuck anime and fuck gooks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491667375 120161342,120175683,2017-04-08 16:05:24,">>120174682 >Every year Hoppe holds a conference in Budrum. Going to make my way there at some point. 40 Euros is expensive after exchange rates but I'll try to make it this year if I get a good job.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491667524 120161342,120175946,2017-04-08 16:07:44,">>120174242 >How? We don't have a centrally-planned economy, there's a way they can put themselves to use. Also, we have a no-child-left-behind policy, so in our covenants, that kid is taken care of by any of us. A 3 year old child has no practical use to a job without a state funded source since charities cannot cover all children the child will die >Ideally they had been erected by donations and that's how they're gonna be maintained. If not, well, that society does not deserve to remember their past. But they're already there so yes you will let war graves and national monuments fall into disrepair >If a site is discovered (universities do that shit for prestige as much as for knowlege), a fundraiser is launched, with the site later being used as a museum, either on site or separately. Fund-raise $355 million dollars yeah right this is pure delusion the site collapses and goes into ruin good to know you've just lost 2000 years of history >A military is important for the functioning of a society, so all military-abled people are taught how to handle weapons and equipment by those whose time in the militia is up. There's a demand for that shit, you know. Plus people generally like seeing their fuckhuge army parading through their streets. That costs money and to actually have enough troops and arms, and fortifications and access to food and fuel,and spare tank treads and tyres and plane fuel and canned goods and transportation and training you need A LOT OF FUCKING MONEY we're talking billions of dollars here none of which some local militias can put together, otherwise your settling for subpar military which gets shit on the moment someone stronger wants your land >Poland used volunteers in 1920 to hold off the (((Soviet))) invasion, mostly ethnically Polish USAF WWI veterans. And Ancap Russia would not survive against the Nazis say what you want about Stalin the killer but the Authoritarian state and laws enacted were necessary for Russia to win",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491667664 120161342,120175948,2017-04-08 16:07:45,">>120161342 What's a commonly held agreement for most-all libertarians about the availability of information? I'd go as far to include schooling - i.e. Audidactism. In the internet age especially, should textbooks (in print or .pdf) be regulated to make sure information is accurate? Would a sort of voluntary tax (donation), co-op etc. be responsible for regulation? How available would information be about the regulators - regulating the regulators even.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491667665 120161342,120176131,2017-04-08 16:09:17,">>120175946 >thinking people are savages and would simply let a baby die on the street",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491667757 120161342,120176371,2017-04-08 16:11:09,">>120176131 >thinking people should care about someone just because they are young",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491667869 120161342,120176390,2017-04-08 16:11:19,End taxes now. No one here is a right libertarian if they don't support the space elevator.,,Anonymous,4578914742.jpg,R6dM6RM6v8rgmfJ0Qxmecw==,US,,1491667879 120161342,120176506,2017-04-08 16:12:16,"I tried to edit this image >>120161772 to have the ancap background instead of just plain yellow so it didn't look as out of place but I need help from whoever knows the shade of green used for his face to remove the line. Would be appreciated.",,Anonymous,Ludwig von Mises.png,hlfjpEyZ2PcBYTk0tr1Aiw==,GB,,1491667936 120161342,120176610,2017-04-08 16:13:07,FREEDOM,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491667987 120161342,120176666,2017-04-08 16:13:32,">>120176131 Yes people do that, the US does it now with healthcare funny enough There are currently 400000 orphens in the US right now are you telling me every single one of these will find a nice happy home and be fed and won't starve since charities can only provide for a tiny amount of this huge number",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491668012 120161342,120176801,2017-04-08 16:14:37,">>120176506 >what is a colour picker severely autistic",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491668077 120161342,120177199,2017-04-08 16:17:58,">>120176506 I'll save you the work and post a better version.",,Anonymous,mises pepe background_00000.png,NvjTZFFZD0ZW9acJvKw1vg==,PT,,1491668278 120161342,120177276,2017-04-08 16:18:32,">>120176801 thanks, I haven't used paint in years also noticed a few other things wrong with that edit I need to fix.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491668312 120161342,120177304,2017-04-08 16:18:47,">>120176390 How will government spending money on a space elevator stop taxes?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491668327 120161342,120177437,2017-04-08 16:19:56,">>120166438 Hello sideways Poland",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491668396 120161342,120177444,2017-04-08 16:19:59,"What do you guys say to the people who say praxeology is bullshit because it ""doesn't use science""? Are there austrian alternatives to praxeology?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491668399 120161342,120177478,2017-04-08 16:20:14,">>120176390 As a mechanical engineer who focuses on structures and materials. Fuck you, it is not possible. The thing will collapse under its own weight and we simply can't make super strong materials in large quantities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491668414 120161342,120177490,2017-04-08 16:20:20,">>120176801 Was gonna post this. >>120177199 I gotta remake the full body mises and rothbard. I rushed them. Will do it in a bit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491668420 120161342,120177497,2017-04-08 16:20:23,">>120177304 Deploy space-based solar arrays. Create energy for less than 1c/kwh. Sell for 17c/kwh. Taxes: done. Libertarian wet dream: reality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qezLhypA0Y",,Anonymous,crackhead.jpg,CNKMQlPld9Tznz7TCqGBqg==,US,,1491668423 120161342,120177498,2017-04-08 16:20:23,">>120175683 40 euros for attending?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491668423 120161342,120177516,2017-04-08 16:20:32,">>120176506 use this thingy",,Anonymous,--.png,IjUJWRsFwx00oBoYVsjbtg==,BE,,1491668432 120161342,120177576,2017-04-08 16:21:08,">>120177199 That is better, I realised I put the colours the wrong way round a bit late",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491668468 120161342,120177588,2017-04-08 16:21:15,How does homosexual removal make him a libertarian rather than some illiberal reactionary?,,Anonymous,Robert_nozick[1].jpg,evKo5eErzq0tUoMEUuMDeA==,US,,1491668475 120161342,120177616,2017-04-08 16:21:25,">>120177478 We only need to go to low-earth orbit. Tether can be built from steel and kevlar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_ring",,Anonymous,BatmanOrbitalRing.jpg,oPYQleQYbGVXdZAJNJULEw==,US,,1491668485 120161342,120178045,2017-04-08 16:24:49,nice thread.,,Anonymous,LibertySnekSounds.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1491668689 120161342,120178088,2017-04-08 16:25:09,">>120177588 The right to discrimination and control of your property is as libertarian as can be",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491668709 120161342,120178395,2017-04-08 16:27:53,">>120177490 Why, thank you. Would it be too much to ask for a Ron Paul one with a torso? Can't really put him in the ancap collage image if he has no body like the rest brah",,Anonymous,hoppe frog.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,PT,,1491668873 120161342,120178507,2017-04-08 16:28:46,">>120178088 >The right to discrimination and control of your property is as libertarian as can be yeah your house or business all the land in society is not your property There's nothing wrong with gays in society, although their lifestyle shouldn't be encouraged.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491668926 120161342,120178682,2017-04-08 16:30:20,">>120178088 >homo removal is right to discrimination Utterly disgusting. That sounds like ""the right to force statism"" or freedom to destroy muh freedoms. No removal, otherwise discrimination is OK.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491669020 120161342,120178857,2017-04-08 16:31:49,">>120174682 >Murdrob what did he mean by this",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491669109 120161342,120179008,2017-04-08 16:33:07,"So, knowing that the Ancap social order is based upon people respecting property rights, I would expect for it to work perfectly in a high IQ White or Asian society. Which begs the question, would the Ancap theory even be able to be implemented in any lower IQ subgroup, such as blacks, and be sustainable?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491669187 120161342,120179032,2017-04-08 16:33:19,">>120178395 Will do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491669199 120161342,120179144,2017-04-08 16:34:18,">>120178088 >Right to discrimination But what about the right to coercion? Coercion must be used to ""physically remove"" homosexuals. How can you reconcile this with the common libertarian principles that affirm liberal rights and self-ownership? >control of your property Libertarians generally don't think that ""your"" property doesn't include gays.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491669258 120161342,120179300,2017-04-08 16:35:41,">>120179008 You used to keep them as slaves dont you?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491669341 120161342,120179307,2017-04-08 16:35:47,">>120177616 >Orbital Ring Nigger next time say that, I was actually know for a fact those can be built.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491669347 120161342,120179342,2017-04-08 16:36:05,So with whom does /lrg/ side? Trump or Assad?,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1491669365 120161342,120179380,2017-04-08 16:36:25,">>120178682 Although I personally do not believe homos necessarily need to be removed, that is perfectly acceptable. You can't end up setting arbitrary limits on other people's rights; even if you don't view homos as needing to be removed the limit is entirely arbitrary because as soon as you justify not being able to discriminate towards group X, you can justify not it towards group Y too, and then what will you do when there's a group Y that needs removing? That being said, you obviously can't go around throwing gays off helicopters for no reason. You simply deny them access to your property and if you refuse you treat them the same as you would any other trespasser under your chosen legal system.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491669385 120161342,120179383,2017-04-08 16:36:25,">>120179008 It's not even sustainable with whites or asians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491669385 120161342,120179431,2017-04-08 16:36:45,">>120179008 I think it would provided that enough intelligent Africans managed to control the rest of their herd and encourage capital accumulation by families and private property laws. Given their inferior intelligence that could take many, many years, but I believe we could teach them to be civilized. If we can't, we just physically remove them back to the commons of the world and have fun with them on occasional safari trips.",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1491669405 120161342,120179468,2017-04-08 16:37:03,">>120179342 Neither. >Not knowing one is a cuck and the other is a cuck of a cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491669423 120161342,120179666,2017-04-08 16:38:44,">>120177498 For staying at the hotel. To attend I think you need to be a member first and that requires donations.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491669524 120161342,120179671,2017-04-08 16:38:48,">>120179307 Then why haven't you joined the real libertarians? Space Elevator Party 2020. Taxation is theft. End it.",,Anonymous,Brace.jpg,UdffWRhZLvGuZy8sRfR3sg==,US,,1491669528 120161342,120179789,2017-04-08 16:39:57,>>120179342,,Anonymous,IMG_0875.jpg,kp90+0tl+4m13lVt/a81ig==,US,,1491669597 120161342,120179850,2017-04-08 16:40:28,">>120179671 Because the concept of a space elevator for nomies is a fucking lie and misleading.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491669628 120161342,120179860,2017-04-08 16:40:33,">>120179380 That's the problem with the extremes of authoritarianism and libertarianism. No one group that holds power should be able to make the call ""Group X needs removing."". That kind of extreme action requires unanimous consensus from everyone who's not ""Group X"".",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491669633 120161342,120180008,2017-04-08 16:41:52,">>120179144 >Coercion must be used to ""physically remove"" homosexuals If they're on my property and I didn't allow it that is breaking and entering and absolutely a violation of the NAP, physically removing them would be preferable to just gunning them down no? >Libertarians generally don't think that ""your"" property doesn't include gays. what are you even saying here I really don't understand?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491669712 120161342,120180052,2017-04-08 16:42:23,">>120179850 It's a scientific fact that you can confirm for yoursellf. Along with the end to taxation, based on a shift from theft to productivity. Everything else is a distraction, and you're not a libertarian if you don't support an end to taxation.",,Anonymous,Oprah.jpg,CRZ8lDx1ua5E1cysvcA2hw==,US,,1491669743 120161342,120180062,2017-04-08 16:42:27,">>120161342 Without zoning laws and regulations, what prevents me from building a chemical factory right in the middle of a residential neighborhood, thus ruining property values for everybody else and filling their homes with smog 24/7? Thus enabling me to buy up all their property at super-low cost?",,Anonymous,Factory Polutes 1.jpg,V+Epmq3rBXcnjpxq2QO5sw==,US,,1491669747 120161342,120180094,2017-04-08 16:42:45,">>120179860 But you don't have that problem in the extremities of libertarianism; because you only have the right to discriminate if and insofar as the person is on your property, there is consent from the owners therefore everyone on the property not in group X.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491669765 120161342,120180223,2017-04-08 16:43:53,">>120180062 Pigovian taxes are the best solution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491669833 120161342,120180341,2017-04-08 16:45:01,">>120180223 >Pigovian taxes Now there is a fresh answer. Please elaborate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491669901 120161342,120180378,2017-04-08 16:45:21,"How does property right effect moving property? Like a flowing river or underground water streams. If A property owner up the flow of the war and blocks the path of flowing water to get more water for himself, how does this affect the property rights of land owners down the stream? Are they entitled to a certain amount of water in their property? If they are does this violate the property rights of the person up the stream?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491669921 120161342,120180613,2017-04-08 16:47:19,">>120180062 Smog and other health hazards fuck people's lungs/eyesight up, so it's a violation of the NAP. If you moved to an area where people already live, you'd have to have the owners' consent.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491670039 120161342,120180689,2017-04-08 16:47:56,">>120180341 Figure out the negative externality of the activity, tax it. Problem solved. Way better than licensing, which is a way to subvert the government and create privileges for the oligarchy.",,Anonymous,obama.jpg,CHFaAUIb0Fuygs5crx8PeA==,US,,1491670076 120161342,120180901,2017-04-08 16:49:58,">>120180689 >Figure out the negative externality of the activity, tax it. Problem solved. Well, yeah. I completely agree.",,Anonymous,635.jpg,bR3IMIUKbXDK0WMJSPN8nQ==,US,,1491670198 120161342,120181077,2017-04-08 16:51:31,">>120180901 That's how you solve pollution. That, and build better infrastructure that eliminates the need for it.",,Anonymous,cramer.jpg,ewO9fKUD/ijZ5hQtI5hnlw==,US,,1491670291 120161342,120181133,2017-04-08 16:51:55,">>120180062 Do you enjoy getting sued?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491670315 120161342,120181347,2017-04-08 16:53:47,">>120180613 >Smog and other health hazards fuck people's lungs/eyesight up Very true. >If you moved to an area where people already live, you'd have to have the owners' consent. In real life, this is accomplished through zoning laws administrated by local governments. But how would it work in an ancap society?",,Anonymous,thinking-face.png,mhv6gLwd3GH0/CivBtm8Dw==,US,,1491670427 120161342,120181404,2017-04-08 16:54:17,">>120180008 >If they're on my property and I didn't allow it that is breaking and entering and absolutely a violation of the NAP, physically removing them would be preferable to just gunning them down no? I'm talking about the removal of homosexuals from polite society, as Hoppes called for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491670457 120161342,120181438,2017-04-08 16:54:33,">>120181133 Tort liability doesn't always work as well, unless you have robust protections for class action, such as attorney's fee awards.",,Anonymous,Penguin.jpg,vAvOnr15gCZdkfuNjzPVUQ==,US,,1491670473 120161342,120181477,2017-04-08 16:54:52,">>120181347 Like most things, it wouldn't work in an ancap society",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491670492 120161342,120181602,2017-04-08 16:55:59,">>120181438 people used to be able to sue companies like this back when there was more of a free market and judges weren't corrupt",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491670559 120161342,120181613,2017-04-08 16:56:06,">>120181347 In the same way except the government is an insurance/protection agency funded by paying individuals who will happily take their funds elsewhere if they fuck up the zoning.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491670566 120161342,120181757,2017-04-08 16:57:29,">>120181404 Have you ever actually listened to or read his ideas?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491670649 120161342,120181946,2017-04-08 16:59:05,">>120181613 And what if the individuals who live nearby the factory don't have enough money to pay a ""protective agency""?",,Anonymous,man-thinking-small-e1415363287342.jpg,8cPeZIQ+EkxWibTRXbRoIw==,US,,1491670745 120161342,120181965,2017-04-08 16:59:17,">>120181404 If you own the piece of land then you have every right to say ""you can't come onto this land"" and to take (appropriate) measures to keep them off your land if they continue to come onto your land. This applies collectively to a society: if one or two people there refuse to serve them then life won't really be that hard for them there, but if almost everyone does it becomes very difficult.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491670757 120161342,120182131,2017-04-08 17:00:42,">>120181946 >And what if a meteor hit earth completely demolishing all civilised society in a fraction of a second No answer, ancaps? Thought not. Absolutely BTFO!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491670842 120161342,120182218,2017-04-08 17:01:21,">>120181946 Crowdfund, boycott, protesting, reaching out to advocacy groups, environmental NGOs, etc.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1491670881 120161342,120182287,2017-04-08 17:02:00,">>120181965 >If you own the piece of land then you have every right to say ""you can't come onto this land"" and to take (appropriate) measures to keep them off your land if they continue to come onto your land. This right already exists in present day law. If you want to kick somebody off your property, you can, generally speaking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491670920 120161342,120182313,2017-04-08 17:02:12,">>120181404 You're talking a quote out of context, I believe he was referring to a convenient community built on the idea of protecting the family structure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491670932 120161342,120182555,2017-04-08 17:04:16,">>120182313 >>You're talking a quote out of context, I believe he was referring to a convenient community built on the idea of protecting the family structure. If he is then I would have to take it as being compatible with libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491671056 120161342,120182697,2017-04-08 17:05:39,">>120182287 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491671139 120161342,120182730,2017-04-08 17:05:54,>>120182313,,Anonymous,hoppe expulsion.png,MYXxcYpUYsv/VE/vI3UFRw==,PT,,1491671154 120161342,120182760,2017-04-08 17:06:09,">>120182287 Not true; maybe in your house but you have no right to freely refuse to sell your service to people because of anti-discrimination laws. Likewise, it's illegal to refuse to hire people based on arbitrary factors.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491671169 120161342,120182855,2017-04-08 17:07:00,">>120182287 Can a business refuse to serve black people or homosexuals? Can they say they won't hire those people?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491671220 120161342,120182946,2017-04-08 17:07:57,">>120180094 Well, I mean in the extreme of libertarianism you have a complete absence of a state to limit your right to remove people from your property or even removing people anywhere at all. Not even a central authority to decide where one person's property begins and where it ends, total chaos.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491671277 120161342,120182965,2017-04-08 17:08:07,">>120182760 >>120182855 >>120182697 >generally speaking",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491671287 120161342,120183164,2017-04-08 17:09:49,">>120180052 >It's a scientific fact It's theory fool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491671389 120161342,120183195,2017-04-08 17:10:08,">>120182730 Yes, because private property owners are absolutely allowed to expel the people they deem counterproductive to what they want to achieve on their private property. If Hoppe personally deems allowing homosexual behaviours more destructive to his society then you don't have to agree with him to support his right to do that. >>120182946 >there are no laws in an anarchist society bait >>120182965 These aren't special cases at all.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491671408 120161342,120183203,2017-04-08 17:10:14,">>120175948 I dont think so. There certainly wouldnt be any kind of centralized authority deciding what is accurate and what isn't. I imagine that perhaps someone could create a ""fact checking"" service that would operate solely on donations, or maybe they would charge a fee to analyze the validity of a specific document and then provide an explanation for their analysis. But ultimately there wouldnt be any internet wide regulatory authority deciding what is right and what isn't. So really not all that different from today. Some people like to refer to Snopes for example every time they want to prove something right or wrong, and we are all free to decide whether or not we believe or agree with snopes, but the information itself is not regulated or censored.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491671414 120161342,120183291,2017-04-08 17:10:56,">>120183195 Correct.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1491671456 120161342,120183293,2017-04-08 17:10:57,">>120183195 >Anarchy >With laws",,Anonymous,the-thinker.jpg,BDQlwAm9N2NnYV/SOlTD5Q==,US,,1491671457 120161342,120183382,2017-04-08 17:11:43,">>120183195 Laws mean nothing if there's no one to enforce them.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491671503 120161342,120183566,2017-04-08 17:13:09,">>120179008 I imagine that without government, a sufficiently large enough group of people would be able to get together fairly quickly and according to the principle of freedom of association they would organize their own society, excluding anyone they want. Govt is what forces you to live with someone, not the free market or voluntarism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491671589 120161342,120183602,2017-04-08 17:13:32,">>120183293 >>120183382 Looks like you've been tricked by the state into thinking anarchy = chaos. Anarchy simply means the absence of a state, not the absence of law. Decentralised, privatised law is definitely a thing. >>120183291 I think I came off as sarcastic there for the first paragraph when I didn't intend to.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491671612 120161342,120183607,2017-04-08 17:13:35,">>120183293 >>120183382 https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491671615 120161342,120183633,2017-04-08 17:13:48,">>120161342 Libertarianism is a kike invention used to destroy conservatism while bolstering crony capitalism.",,Anonymous,1491410673919.jpg,fWxwS0W4i1CBlgdz2KJLRw==,US,,1491671628 120161342,120183749,2017-04-08 17:14:46,">>120183633 You guys are basically just socialists. None of your ideology helps white people.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491671686 120161342,120183781,2017-04-08 17:15:00,https://youtu.be/jTYkdEU_B4o,,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491671700 120161342,120183807,2017-04-08 17:15:10,">>120183602 >Anarchy simply means the absence of a state, not the absence of law And without a state, who enforces the law? A law without enforcement is just a suggestion.",,Anonymous,thinking_man_PNG11602.png,66EjrgYcdfZZMX56zxbJbQ==,US,,1491671710 120161342,120183921,2017-04-08 17:16:10,">>120183807 see >>120183781 for an explaination of polycentric law.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491671770 120161342,120184186,2017-04-08 17:18:18,">>120183807 All of society is just a suggestion, but people rub shoulders amicably for the most part.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491671898 120161342,120184239,2017-04-08 17:18:49,">>120183602 Anarchy IS chaos and the only law in the absence of a state is ""might makes right"". Again, decentralised, privatised law isn't applicable outside the smallest of social units. Why do you think feudal lords kept fighting over lands before kings held greater power? Why do gangster turf wars happen? They had/have decentralised laws of their own too. Which amounts to nothing once one side is strong enough to destroy the other. The state is a necessary evil.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491671929 120161342,120184379,2017-04-08 17:20:03,">>120184186 >for the most part And what happens when they don't? What's the plan?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491672003 120161342,120184382,2017-04-08 17:20:06,">>120182555 Yeah, it is very simple once you actually read about AnCap from the sources themselves instead of /pol/ memes. If I own a bit of property, and you own some property, and a hundred other people in our vicinity own property, then we each have the right to allow or not allow anyone onto our individual property. But we can also voluntarily decide that we one hundred and two individuals will ""collectively"" enforce the same rules of association on all of our individual properties, and as long as we do so, we can all be part of a voluntary community. So in other words, I say ""from now on I will not allow communists onto my property"", and you say the same, and the other hundred fellows say the same, now we have created a collection of private properties that all adhere to this rule, but if any one of us allows a communist onto their property they are simply excluded from the community. They arent killed or anything, nor do we have the right to remove them from their property, but we simple choose to not associate with them. We dont trade with them, we dont help them, we shun and ostracize them. That person now has to look for another group to associate with, and our community is preserved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491672006 120161342,120184566,2017-04-08 17:21:41,">>120184382 The problem is people have got physical removal (the act of disallowing people onto your property) confused with 'physical removal' (of communists and democrats of helicopters, so to speak)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491672101 120161342,120184659,2017-04-08 17:22:30,">>120183807 A law enforcement agency. Government law enforcement is no different from private law enforcement, the only difference is that it is a monopoly on this particular service, and if you arent happy with it the only thing you can do is move to another country, unless of course you dont have that option, and many dont. In an AnCap society the free market will regulate law enforcement agencies and if one provides atrocious service then nobody will use it and it will go out of business.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491672150 120161342,120184717,2017-04-08 17:22:58,">>120161342 So, this entire thread people have been considering Libertarianism and AnCap the same thing. AnCaps have officially cucked libertarians into having to call themselves Minarchists or some other cuck term. Snek was ironically stepped on",,Anonymous,wallpaper.png,WJKDMZhiucpI4q/mrvSxaQ==,BR,,1491672178 120161342,120184838,2017-04-08 17:24:08,">>120184659 >A law enforcement agency. Who makes the laws?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491672248 120161342,120184841,2017-04-08 17:24:10,">>120184566 Well, it is true that some people refer to Pinochet's authoritarian method of physical removal, however there is nothing stopping a voluntary community from hiring a private helicopter company to deal with unruly communists who refuse to leave their private properties, and for that company to physically remove them to another location, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491672250 120161342,120184968,2017-04-08 17:25:19,">>120184717 Yup. Many ancaps floating around. It's Rothbard's fault.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491672319 120161342,120185093,2017-04-08 17:26:21,">>120184841 Well true, I was more talking about the meme vs reality vs. the actual method of transport.",,Anonymous,1482560740107.jpg,gSLUPyGk4EjjP9qBGusafg==,GB,,1491672381 120161342,120185204,2017-04-08 17:27:15,">>120184717 There's no reason someone can't support an anarcho-capitalist society in ideology and a minarchist or otherwise libertarian society in practice",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491672435 120161342,120185386,2017-04-08 17:28:38,">>120184838 Private courts. Government/govt courts making laws is once again nothing more than a monopoly on that particular service. This has actually been done in practice before. Look up the ""Not so Wild, Wild West"", it is a book about how private courts existed in the wild west in far away territories the govt hadnt managed to subdue yet. Mining camps would create their own laws, and deal with their own problems. Ranchers would appeal to private owned courts and settle their disputes there. There was competition too, more than one such court existed within a given territory sometimes. And crime was dealt with. When the govt came in and began to set up its own established monopoly, things began to become bogged down and inefficient, as always the case with govt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491672518 120161342,120185764,2017-04-08 17:31:52,">>120184717 I'm AnCap but minarchists are always welcome and minarchy is a better state of affairs than the present condition. I think threads usually go this direction of ""but who will build X?"" because most of us are AnCaps.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491672712 120161342,120186059,2017-04-08 17:34:08,">>120185204 About 90% of this thread assumes that Libertarianism = No government whatsoever, and pretty much every post is centered around that. Even the reading list on OP copypasta has books from Milton Friedman and Bastiat, both supported a small limited government that would provide at the very least Defense and Law Enforcement. Basically, my complaint is that this entire thread is: >Hey fags, who would protect you if I hired a zillion mercenaries to kill you? Libertarians BTFO >Muh NAP If we let the Ancaps hijack this we become as much of a joke as they are, and I don't want to lose snek memes.",,Anonymous,1490771398277.png,oV9f3kVayUrnHl9JD9IouA==,BR,,1491672848 120161342,120186229,2017-04-08 17:35:29,">>120186059 That's due to retards who think anarchism = no laws and not = no state, not the fault of anarcho-capitalists. Personally I view a-c as a 'perfect' society, in reality I welcome anything that pushes us in that direction. Minarchism would be amazing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491672929 120161342,120186266,2017-04-08 17:35:47,">>120186059 >If we let the Ancaps hijack this we become as much of a joke as they are ouch, right in the fucking fees Manoel",,Anonymous,hoppe attemps to make contact with ets.png,Yv2F7A2vQcm3cEacS+zlYw==,PT,,1491672947 120161342,120186268,2017-04-08 17:35:49,">>120185386 >Private courts So wait, I can just hire a judge that declares me not guilty in any possible scenario?",,Anonymous,s4dTtBy.jpg,rvHGDaxbyOUhhuLyq76EiQ==,US,,1491672949 120161342,120186536,2017-04-08 17:37:59,">>120186268 No, because nobody would agree to go to that court.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491673079 120161342,120186611,2017-04-08 17:38:28,How would a libertarian society handle people in 24/7 power based relationships? Would the submissive in those scenarios be legally considered a slave because they consensually entered into that sort of thing?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491673108 120161342,120186769,2017-04-08 17:39:34,">>120186536 Well, yeah, but then again, I would never agree to any court that might not rule in my favor. This is why courts in real-life are usually compulsory so people can't just pick and choose which laws they want to follow.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491673174 120161342,120186811,2017-04-08 17:39:48,">>120186611 Minarchist here. I don't support this type of shit whatsoever. some ancaps do, but I don't it's scary to think about it's also hot as fuck though but it's not right",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491673188 120161342,120186930,2017-04-08 17:40:48,">>120186611 Well Rothbard said, and correctly, that there is no slavery in a society adhering to libertarianism. For a person to be owned, there would have been consent, making it not slavery because slavery implies a lack of consent.",,Anonymous,1490738214046.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,PT,,1491673248 120161342,120186943,2017-04-08 17:40:57,">>120186536 Welp we're at an impasse, I guess this means you leave me no option but to use my private tactical nuke on your house.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491673257 120161342,120186948,2017-04-08 17:40:56,">>120185764 >I think threads usually go this direction of ""but who will build X?"" because most of us are AnCaps. Exactly, can't you just accept limited government for now and let the stupid part of the discussion be settled? When we reach that point of limited government, we can talk about slashing the last two sectors of law and defense. Ancaps are still greatest allies, don't take it the wrong way. >>120186229 >I welcome anything that pushes us in that direction I agree, which is why I think the moderate stance of minarchism is still the best to advance the ideals of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,1491609450174.jpg,GnFGR+WqfdNZPfBxHS2Rgg==,BR,,1491673256 120161342,120186971,2017-04-08 17:41:08,">>120186268 Judges dont arbitrate based on your demands, so no. And any who do will never be used again because they will develop a reputation for being shit judges. A judge is simply an arbitrator, two parties will have to agree on which judge or private court will arbitrate their dispute, and if they cant agree then perhaps they will refer to the rules of their defense insurance agency if they share the services of the same one, or if they have different agencies then those agencies will negotiate an arbitration between each other on behalf of their customers, and it is in their interest to do so because of good business practices. Ultimately however if two parties cannot even come to an agreement either in the matter of which court to use or through their agencies, then they are free to settle their dispute between each other personally. They would have to do this voluntarily and on the property of someone who is ok with this, maybe even one of their properties. Because this would be voluntary, no insurance agency will touch the outcome or try to pursue any kind of claims, because no crime has been committed in the case of a voluntary duel for example, carried out on a volunteer's property (or their own property).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491673268 120161342,120187110,2017-04-08 17:42:10,">>120186811 >its also hot as fuck though I know how chu feel! >it's scary to think about Not so much. In those types of relationships people to to build in clauses that let them get out if things go to hell, and I imagine Safe Sane and Consensual would carry over and probably be practiced with even more care.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491673330 120161342,120187208,2017-04-08 17:43:02,">>120186769 You'd hire a court that lets thieves and murderers get off the hook?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491673382 120161342,120187226,2017-04-08 17:43:10,">>120186971 >Judges dont arbitrate based on your demands, so no. They would if that's what I hired them to do. You said that the law would be fully privatized, so why can't I hire a judge that always rules the way that I want him to? Like ordering a pizza, but instead a pizza, I'm ordering a specific verdict.",,Anonymous,1491605672328.jpg,mph/ssPerxf6S5KrMcFwBg==,US,,1491673390 120161342,120187279,2017-04-08 17:43:32,">>120186948 If more minarchists are willing to come here and join the discussion and also to provide their own arguments against the statist shills in here then I'm all for it. Have a Cecília.",,Anonymous,cecilia.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1491673412 120161342,120187521,2017-04-08 17:45:18,">>120186059 I don't wanna tread on you, you're a libertarian. So you're a cool guy by me. Just take my word for this; I started the /lrg/ threads. Maybe Portugal or Germany can vouch for me as evidence. I am Anarcho Capitalist. We're not hijacking anything, the regulars here are mostly ancap. If you have non anarchist content to suggest please do. I add to the pastebin all the time.",,Anonymous,AncapBall.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1491673518 120161342,120187703,2017-04-08 17:46:47,">>120186948 Minarchism in practice sure, for the masses, but what's wrong with discussing anarcho-capitalism here?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491673607 120161342,120187842,2017-04-08 17:47:55,">>120187703 Cause it makes you all look like absolute idiots when you say things like ""the law can be privately managed, bro!""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491673675 120161342,120187963,2017-04-08 17:48:48,">>120187842 I fully believe it's not impossible for the law to be privately managed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491673728 120161342,120188126,2017-04-08 17:50:09,">>120187208 What if this guy >>120187226 hired his bought and paid for court and you didn't know any better? What if the court has a good reputation only because they've mastered hiding their corruption. Would you just accept the private court's decision? Why would you do that if you possess a very strong private army and no one in his right mind could challenge you?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491673809 120161342,120188172,2017-04-08 17:50:28,">>120187226 Hypothetically you could, but such a thing would not stand for long if at all. Because only an idiotic ""judge"" would sacrifice long term stable business and prosperity for a short term bribe. Your argument is ultimately irrelevant because the same exact argument can be made for government courts. What is stopping a sufficiently wealthy or influential individual from bribing a judge or law enforcment? Literally fucking nothing, and unless you live under a rock you would be aware that such a thing has happened for as long as we have had governments. BUT, in an AnCap society you have the ability to CHOOSE. Unlike in a statist society. Which means shitty corrupt judges will eventually have no fucking customers and will cease to exist. Unlike in a statist society where the only way to get rid of a corrupt judge is to hope he drops dead of a heart attack, or hope that the possibly equally corrupt justice system decided to prosecute one of their own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491673828 120161342,120188411,2017-04-08 17:52:30,">>120188172 >Which means shitty corrupt judges will eventually have no fucking customers and will cease to exist. Unlike in a statist society where the only way to get rid of a corrupt judge is to hope he drops dead of a heart attack, or hope that the possibly equally corrupt justice system decided to prosecute one of their own. Minarchist here. Interesting, I've never thought of that before. But you can still have competition with judges in a statist society.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491673950 120161342,120188484,2017-04-08 17:53:03,">>120188172 You seriously don't see the structural problems with letting people CHOOSE judges? Who would ever be found guilty? It's utter lunacy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491673983 120161342,120188522,2017-04-08 17:53:20,">>120186948 So promote minarchism. We aren't gonna shun you. I'm not gonna take a stance that I don't fully agree with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674000 120161342,120188660,2017-04-08 17:54:22,">>120188126 >corruption Are the monopoly judges immune to corruption? I'd think they're even more likely to be paid off. >very strong private army Sure, you can try your hand at being dictator in a free society with millions of armed people if you want. Good luck.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491674062 120161342,120188662,2017-04-08 17:54:23,">>120187963 I fully believe that it is. Sorry, but the very nature of law means that whoever is administrating the law MUST have a monopoly otherwise why the fuck would anybody follow the law?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674063 120161342,120188673,2017-04-08 17:54:29,">>120186811 >>120187110 also, please elaborate, why isn't it right? If after a number of years of being the sub in a relationship with someone, what argument is there against me doing something like that, so long as its consensual.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674069 120161342,120188711,2017-04-08 17:54:48,">>120188484 >You seriously don't see the structural problems with letting people CHOOSE judges? Who would ever be found guilty? It's utter lunacy. Two competing parties would have to come up with an impartial judge.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491674088 120161342,120188737,2017-04-08 17:54:58,">>120161342 Elite /pol/tards",,Anonymous,17362638_1284682221600094_9017226756549738829_n.jpg,p2h+m8Lb0c/ellC8zCAe3g==,BR,,1491674098 120161342,120188812,2017-04-08 17:55:34,">>120188662 Because otherwise they'd be physically removed by the majority of law-abiding citizens?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491674134 120161342,120188916,2017-04-08 17:56:20,">>120188673 >If after a number of years of being the sub in a relationship with someone, are you saying you're currently doing this? freaky >what argument is there against me doing something like that, so long as its consensual. Because you wouldn't be able to leave? That sounds super hot though. But it's wrong.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491674180 120161342,120188940,2017-04-08 17:56:27,">>120188711 But why would somebody who is on trial for a serious crime agree to ANY judge? Why would he even agree to a trial? Why wouldn't he just say, well, fuck your imaginary laws, I'm going to home?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674187 120161342,120189040,2017-04-08 17:57:23,">>120188940 im not an ancap ancaps have written books about this ask ancaps ITT",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491674243 120161342,120189128,2017-04-08 17:58:08,">>120183633 >Socialist thinks its okay to be a commie if it about protecting a race.",,Anonymous,1488429358233.png,UFGAj/eRKu/PxIDj+4waTw==,US,,1491674288 120161342,120189157,2017-04-08 17:58:21,">>120183633 >>120183293",,Anonymous,ANCAP true.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,BR,,1491674301 120161342,120189166,2017-04-08 17:58:26,">>120188812 How does anybody even agree on what the law is?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674306 120161342,120189207,2017-04-08 17:58:44,">>120186059 Ancaps are mostly shills, and there's a fucking ton of freemasons in their meetings. It's a distraction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674324 120161342,120189273,2017-04-08 17:59:17,">>120183633 >Labor Value Theory DROPPED R O P P E D",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491674357 120161342,120189341,2017-04-08 17:59:47,,,Anonymous,C.jpg,NOz3my0RjlB6U20v5+kK1w==,BR,,1491674387 120161342,120189407,2017-04-08 18:00:21,">>120189166 Competition between private law firms. As a minarchist I assume you've done any research into how it would work, instead of making assumptions..?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491674421 120161342,120189498,2017-04-08 18:01:09,">>120189341 fuck off",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674469 120161342,120189541,2017-04-08 18:01:26,">>120188916 >are you saying you're currently doing this Trap maids don't hire themselves :^0 Well, somewhat. My question there was based in a mix of reality and what if. I'm in a relationship where I'm very definitely the sub, but we haven't been together for quite the number of years yet that I would consider doing something like I described. >Because you wouldn't be able to leave Not exactly. In these types of relationships, while the sub technically has no power, they also have a fair bit of power. Safewords, hard limits and so on. In the relationship I described, well, if I ever get into one that deep, it would only be with someone I've been with for a long time, implicitly trust, and know will not violate certain boundaries. There's usually escape clauses in them anyway, which allow someone to break it off and get the heck out if things go bad for some reason.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674486 120161342,120189583,2017-04-08 18:01:39,">>120189207 >Ancaps are mostly shills, and there's a fucking ton of freemasons in their meetings. This is incredibly inaccurate.",,Anonymous,1486352115156.jpg,WHL6zilB2v5vtzfhgAiSDA==,CA,,1491674499 120161342,120189630,2017-04-08 18:01:59,">>120189341 kys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674519 120161342,120189704,2017-04-08 18:02:34,">>120189407 >Competition between private law firms HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT DETERMINE WHAT THE LAWS ARE.",,Anonymous,63e52dc85fa6895388a12739a72051bc_gun-pepe-pepe-frog-meme-gun_593-640.jpg,E++iRpzptvQwtBg8rREqBQ==,US,,1491674554 120161342,120189725,2017-04-08 18:02:49,">>120188660 Corruption is corruption. That's why there are lots of checks and balances, higher and lower courts. You don't have that without a state. Also, dictator =/= owner of private army. I didn't talk about keeping armed free people as your subjects. Unorganized millions are ineffective at removing groups of well-organized thousands. See below: >>120188812 Because ordinary armed individuals of upstanding character in Arizona are physically removing drug cartels from operating in their neighborhoods.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491674569 120161342,120189780,2017-04-08 18:03:08,">>120189341 you faggot",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491674588 120161342,120189788,2017-04-08 18:03:14,">>120189704 The role of these companies is not to create law (legislate), but to enforce natural law.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491674594 120161342,120189954,2017-04-08 18:04:19,">>120189788 So who creates the laws?",,Anonymous,pink girl.jpg,h+4ukR63lzQWDOaofO4oWQ==,US,,1491674659 120161342,120189996,2017-04-08 18:04:37,">>120189541 >Trap maids don't hire themselves :^0 Hot as fug >I'm in a relationship where I'm very definitely the sub really hot got any pics?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491674677 120161342,120190091,2017-04-08 18:05:16,I'm just waiting for more Helicopter-chan art desu,,Anonymous,1486412020882.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,US,,1491674716 120161342,120190104,2017-04-08 18:05:21,">>120189166 The property owners decide the laws lets say theres a private property covenant, the law of the property owner is ""no fags allowed"" One day anon comes to join the community (he is a fag) he says, ""I would like to live here MrPropertyOwner"" he say ""okay, just know that we don't take kindly to queers here."" the moment he enters the community he starts getting naked and kissing boys. he is then treated by the law system that Mrpropertyowner created. or even better he's just physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674721 120161342,120190152,2017-04-08 18:05:48,">>120161342 Hello, Are you in the Snekistan facebook group? I have seen many of these threads but I have no idea who posts them is/are",,Orlando de Moraes Féria,,,BR,,1491674748 120161342,120190213,2017-04-08 18:06:22,">>120189954 The owner of the biggest private security megacorporation, who else?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491674782 120161342,120190214,2017-04-08 18:06:24,">>120189704 >Company says 'these are our stances' >People will try to deal with the company when possible if it agrees with the stances Since we're talking about a for-profit company here you're very unlikely to see arbitrary laws like outlawing certain drugs; but rather upholding given laws like non-aggression and it's logical outcomes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491674784 120161342,120190225,2017-04-08 18:06:27,">>120190091 me too. in the other thread I discovered it was a britfag who made it. He said he'd make more and I gave him some ideas",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491674787 120161342,120190226,2017-04-08 18:06:29,">>120189996 Now, I wouldn't be very good property if I just gave pictures of myself away on the internet, would I? Would make my Master annoyed too. Maybe. Or he would roll his eyes and ask if I've been funposting again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674789 120161342,120190316,2017-04-08 18:07:06,">>120190152 No, I'm not on social media. Sorry, pal.",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1491674826 120161342,120190360,2017-04-08 18:07:27,">>120188662 >>120188940 You keep asking the same fucking question which I ALREADY answered in previous comments. Go re-read what I wrote, I explained why your complaints are meaningless. >But why would somebody who is on trial for a serious crime agree to ANY judge? Why would he even agree to a trial? Why wouldn't he just say, well, fuck your imaginary laws, I'm going to home? He doesnt have to agree to anything, SAME AS TODAY. Its called being a FUGITIVE. If you have transgressed against me, my defense agency/security insurance company will pursue you and bring you in with force, because that is their entire purpose, they are just like regular police except private. Then you would be tried in a private court that we both agreed upon, and if you refuse to agree to any court then you will be tried by the court that your insurance agency and mine have agreed upon if we have two different ones, OR if our insurance agency is the same then simply the court of its choosing, with which it has its own contract. Insurance agencies are incentivized to help their customers because that is what they are fucking paid for. If we have the same company then it is in its best interests to bring both of us in since we are its customers, or if our agencies are different then it is in their interests to settle the dispute of their customers instead of going to war with one another on behalf of retarded criminal customers. If you have no insurance agency then tough shit, you are subject to the court that has been chosen by me or my agency, since you have nobody representing your interests as a paying customer, you are essentially alone completely. You are incenitivized therefore to have an insurer. However if you are found guilty, then your insurer will drop your service since nobody wants to insure criminals, and nobody else will offer you insurance, same as today with car insurers charging higher premiums if you are a shitty driver.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491674847 120161342,120190474,2017-04-08 18:08:24,">>120190152 never heard of it, I also don't use GoyBook.",,Anonymous,hoppeanism.png,/yCVyLxXc08n4wtK5PdSew==,US,,1491674904 120161342,120190540,2017-04-08 18:08:58,">>120190104 >The property owners decide the laws And what if two property owners, living in close proximity, with property bordering each other, have a severe disagreement? What if he wants to play music at 110 decibels but I'm only willing to tolerate 90 decibels?",,Anonymous,1490387708034.jpg,voVdDE4aCfHirFdX6zPI4w==,US,,1491674938 120161342,120190698,2017-04-08 18:10:05,">>120190226 Aw come on pls.... You're at least a libertarian anyway right?",,Anonymous,1491658379093.png,78glbvvXSadtgHnAkjIy4w==,CA,,1491675005 120161342,120190777,2017-04-08 18:10:42,">>120190225 Yeah I saw. That's why I'm waiting. God speed britanon >>120190213 And what if he decides to designate his property as a sovereign country and declare war on the rest of you to expand his dictatorship?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491675042 120161342,120190884,2017-04-08 18:11:29,">>120190360 >If you have transgressed against me, my defense agency/security insurance company will pursue you and bring you in with force, because that is their entire purpose, they are just like regular police except private. Guess what? I have my own defense agency as well. I'm so rich, I'm paying 10 times the money you pay your defense agency for 6 times the defense capability. Go ahead and bring me in with force, if you can.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491675089 120161342,120190921,2017-04-08 18:11:50,">>120189725 >checks and balances Bureaucracy, which makes corruption easier to hide. >dictator =/= owner of private army You want to impose your will on those around you with your army. That's what a dictator is. You think the law doesn't apply to you because you have an army. If the masses far outweigh your army you'd get btfo. >Unorganized millions are ineffective at removing groups of well-organized thousands. Absolute garbage. If they weren't we'd still have kings. People changed their mind and beheaded them. In lots of cases the mere threat was good enough. >drug cartels Financial incentives are way too strong and if you remove one kingpin another will take its place. Why would the people risk their lives for a persistent government created problem?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491675110 120161342,120191000,2017-04-08 18:12:30,">>120190777 Well, I guess our AnCap utopia is over. Hello, national socialism.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491675150 120161342,120191026,2017-04-08 18:12:42,">>120190540 Look, I can't give you the ""what would happen"" of every possible situation anybody can come up with. They might work out a deal, call another property owner to act as an arbitraitor, or they might go to war over loud music. if you want indepth answers you have to read the literature, theres tons of articles about these kind of things. i can try and find one for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491675162 120161342,120191267,2017-04-08 18:14:31,">>120191000 And that's why AnCap doesn't work. No one has any obligation to help each other and it'll all just end up like African warring states.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491675271 120161342,120191270,2017-04-08 18:14:33,">>120190698 Both me and my Master are! We both really hate the ""Nyaaa~ I'm a mindless dumb cocksocket Sir~~~"" stereotype for subs, so I take pride on being educated and fairly red pilled politically, while still being his.",,Anonymous,wha.jpg,WHqekqmRcFCqXQNUOzKekQ==,US,,1491675273 120161342,120191359,2017-04-08 18:15:10,">>120191267 https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491675310 120161342,120191464,2017-04-08 18:15:58,">>120190884 Ok, so you pay your own defense agency and I pay mine. There is a dispute between us. We can either go to court peacefully or have the agencies step in and bring us there. They have NO REASON to fight one another, that is not what they are paid for. They arent paid to be your personal army, they are a police force, now of course you could just hire ""hired guns"" whose only purpose is to shoot on sight, but what good is that? And you think they will accept you as a customer if they know you are guaranteed to force them into a pointless conflict? No. Now the private cops have no fucking reason to fight one another, that is TERRIBLE for business, TERRIBLE for the cops themselves, they will not mindlessly shoot each other just because one of their customers demands it. What is so hard about this to understand?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491675358 120161342,120191527,2017-04-08 18:16:23,">>120191026 Why would I do that when all the scenarios that I've constructed are EASILY solvable with just basic shit like zoning laws and regular (non-private) legal systems. The fact that ancaps aren't able to come up with clear, concise answers to these very basic, simple situations that local governments deal with every fucking day kind proves that ancap doesn't work.",,Anonymous,decibels-levels.jpg,cS15vsW8tHAfNZnGPRUhjg==,US,,1491675383 120161342,120191569,2017-04-08 18:16:44,">>120191270 That's really cool. I'd like to be friends with you guys but I am a leaf... Redpilled anime traps are the best.",,Anonymous,1482088389074.jpg,t7aolXzSEvlqCijXZp2BMA==,CA,,1491675404 120161342,120191729,2017-04-08 18:18:03,">>120190921 >If the masses far outweigh your army you'd get btfo. You're missing the original argument. Why the fuck would the masses care to impose the private courts decision on me at the cost of their lives? >Unorganized millions are ineffective at removing groups of well-organized thousands >Absolute garbage. Implying the revolutionaries that toppled monarchs weren't organized under faction leaders. >Demand for drugs is a government created problem. That's right. Drug addiction is a meme. Without government, there'd be no drug users who fall to addiction and create demand.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491675483 120161342,120191733,2017-04-08 18:18:04,">>120189498 >>120189630 >>120189780",,Anonymous,1491524594422.gif,l5UG9Q1uzM9YHHmjSlySUA==,BR,,1491675484 120161342,120191804,2017-04-08 18:18:37,">>120191464 If his army is substantially larger than yours, then fighting it out might actually be the best option for him. Futhermore, your army is loyal only to your money, and thus they are likely to switch sides if they are offered a better deal from the opposing side, especially if the alternative means fighting a losing battle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491675517 120161342,120192048,2017-04-08 18:20:33,">>120191527 Why are you so fucking dense? What is stopping private courts from creating similar laws? Nothing. You live next to me, you play loud fucking music, I tell my insurance company who I pay. My company shows up at your door and demands that this be settled, you can bring in your agency if its different or our common agency will get both of us to settle it in court and the process that I mentioned fifteen fucking times in this thread begins. It's like you arent even fucking reading what I am writing. If you are found guilty in court of being an asshole who plays loud music, there will be consequences.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491675633 120161342,120192122,2017-04-08 18:21:12,"What do you guys say to the people who say praxeology is bullshit because it ""doesn't use science""? Are there austrian alternatives to praxeology?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491675672 120161342,120192250,2017-04-08 18:22:18,">>120192048 >What is stopping private courts from creating similar laws? Because why the fuck does your ""private court"" have any authority to tell me how loud I can play music on MY property?",,Anonymous,1.jpg,VwFAcj0cS8e3sCS5Ai+j5w==,US,,1491675738 120161342,120192379,2017-04-08 18:23:18,">>120191804 >If his army is substantially larger than yours, then fighting it out might actually be the best option for him. THIS ISNT ABOUT HIM FOR FUCKS SAKE. The cops arent his personal slaves, they are HIRED. They can do this magical thing called REFUSE. They arent going to indulge a customer who causes them bad business. For fucks sake, you have no idea what you are talking about, you lack even a basic understanding of anything. >Futhermore, your army is loyal only to your money, and thus they are likely to switch sides if they are offered a better deal from the opposing side, Only to never find another paying customer ever fucking again because everyone knows they cant be trusted at all. THINK FOR A SECOND.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491675798 120161342,120192399,2017-04-08 18:23:26,">>120192122 I'd say ""Prove me that human beings do not act through means to achieve certain ends. Prove to me that you are not constrained by time. Prove to me that you are not always and everywhere attempting to exchange a less satisfactory state of affairs for a more satisfactory one."" If not, utilitarianism.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491675806 120161342,120192656,2017-04-08 18:25:25,">>120191729 >Why the fuck would the masses care to impose the private courts decision on me at the cost of their lives? If you go to war with an insurer and you were to somehow start winning the other insurers would step in as well as voluntary militias. >organized under faction leaders >Implying insurers and militias wouldn't be organized >Drug addiction Why would drugs be illegal under ancap? If you want to waste time and money chasing junkies and dealers go ahead. Hope they aren't insured.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491675925 120161342,120192702,2017-04-08 18:25:45,">>120192379 So my options are: 1. Certain death at the hands of a superior force 2. Maybe takes a bit longer to find a new job Huh, which am I gonna pick?",,Anonymous,industry-thought-leader-032614.jpg,L5TQNvr7YSwi/Ufu2pB4JQ==,US,,1491675945 120161342,120192763,2017-04-08 18:26:11,">>120191359 What the fuck is this even saying? It gives possible solutions but then debunks them as unable to ever work. Yet it says ""people would naturally conform to a non-violent system of rule and law."" That's not how this works. You assume *everyone* is willing to follow the NAP and never have any arguments at all. Nothing is stopping your neighbor from deciding he wants your land, sees you have an inferior or no private military, and forcibly takes it all. No one has an obligation to help you. And this would continue until you have several conglomerates that have violated the NAP and turned into dictatorships.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491675971 120161342,120192910,2017-04-08 18:27:18,">>120192399 >Prove me that human beings do not act through means to achieve certain ends yeah but then they say that humans do not act rationally all of the time sometimes people don't act in their best self interest",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491676038 120161342,120192936,2017-04-08 18:27:32,">>120186811 a slave isn't a status related to subjective consideratoins what are (((you)))?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491676052 120161342,120192955,2017-04-08 18:27:39,">>120192250 If we have the same insurer, or even different ones, then what is stopping you is the fact that you will be forced to pay me reparations for transgressing upon me as declared by the private court chosen by our common insurer(s). If you refuse then say goodbye to your insurance and any possibility of getting anyone elses insurance as the insurance agencies will notify each other of shit customers. Now you are utterly fucking alone, and if you keep pissing me off I will come over to your house one day and blow your fucking head off, and you have no insurer to pursue punishment on your behalf. Congratulations, you dun goofed. You want to act like an asshole for no fucking reason and ignore absolutely every single social method for settling an argument? Expect to find yourself an enemy of literally everybody within ten square miles who wont stand for your anti social behavior. You will literally become an outcast, plain and simple.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676059 120161342,120192968,2017-04-08 18:27:45,">>120164720 In your scenario someone would be invading mainland USA because Ancap is generally isolationist when it comes to foreign policy. Generally it is bad for a business if you are being invaded. If there is a foreign invasion it will mostly be for resources. Which would be funded by the resource gathering businesses.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676065 120161342,120193089,2017-04-08 18:28:36,">>120192910 And what happens to those people? Erased from the gene pool; physically removed from civilization.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1491676116 120161342,120193092,2017-04-08 18:28:37,">>120192702 What the fuck are you talking about? Your strawman arguments are utterly devoid of any common sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676117 120161342,120193117,2017-04-08 18:28:47,">>120161342 I thought I was libertarian right but I took that political compass test and it turns out out I'm libertarian left, somewhat where Jill stein stands and Gandhi. Can I still post here?",,Anonymous,1481718093466.jpg,gSZ006vWZXul2E8JI4sfTw==,US,,1491676127 120161342,120193228,2017-04-08 18:29:41,">>120192763 Non-Aggression is not law. Its more of a moral stance on where to justify coercion and force. if you try to take my property it is just to harm you to protect myself. agree or not on its merits, but thats what the NAP is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676181 120161342,120193231,2017-04-08 18:29:42,">>120193117 Political Compass is a shit test. I got Anarcho-Syndicalist the first time. Do this: http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php",,Anonymous,autism 2017.png,FCBxzeB66opaAHkT3m5jxg==,PT,,1491676182 120161342,120193332,2017-04-08 18:30:28,">>120193117 >actually believing political compass bullshit It literally skews your results towards the left unless you fool the test.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491676228 120161342,120193454,2017-04-08 18:31:28,">>120193231 >>120193117 This is me. What would you guys say I am? look how far right I am lol god damn",,Anonymous,me.png,JodGjOXx+KCkBaxUx7eMdA==,CA,,1491676288 120161342,120193598,2017-04-08 18:32:25,">>120193117 That's what you get when you pick the common sense answers from a libertarian point of view. Consider yourself actively encouraged to post here.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491676345 120161342,120193607,2017-04-08 18:32:27,">>120191569 I'm glad anon. You seem rather interested in these types of relationships yourself honestly, you should look up more information on them. Knowledge is power! And being super submissive/dominant is just as much fun as you think.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676347 120161342,120193697,2017-04-08 18:33:09,Daily reminder commies will NEVER EVER get their surplus value back.,,Anonymous,1485609428493.jpg,X7Qm5KzPDNl+xCqUtp+9XA==,CA,,1491676389 120161342,120193737,2017-04-08 18:33:29,">>120193228 I know it's not a law. And you just proved what I said by claiming >if you try to take my property it is just to harm you to protect myself. Yeah good luck with that. I have more resources than you. Your best bet is paying people money to help you, but that's implying they won't also take over in your weakened state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676409 120161342,120193814,2017-04-08 18:34:00,"I'm thinking of making a website. Libertarianright.org?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491676440 120161342,120194002,2017-04-08 18:35:30,"new thread guise >>120193500 >>120193500 >>120193500 >>120193500 >>120193500 >>120193500 >>120193500 >>120193500 >>120193500 new thread guise",,Anonymous,commie drop.png,16lXUiJDa1n0cALqemu3nw==,PT,,1491676530 120161342,120194072,2017-04-08 18:36:07,">>120193454 That's about right, similar to me. Far right is the comfiest political position senpai.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491676567 120161342,120194343,2017-04-08 18:38:14,What stops the two goverments from going to war with eachother? do they have a goverment that rules them?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676694 120161342,120194435,2017-04-08 18:38:52,">>120193814 sounds cool but 1post by this ID say fbi.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676732 120161342,120194483,2017-04-08 18:39:13,">>120193737 >What stops the two goverments from going to war with eachother? do they have a goverment that rules them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676753 120161342,120194573,2017-04-08 18:39:56,">>120194072 >Far right is the comfiest political position senpai. super comfy :3",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491676796 120161342,120194843,2017-04-08 18:42:09,">>120193607 >You seem rather interested in these types of relationships yourself honestly It's not something I would want to do myself, but it's hot. I'm probably an autist but I enjoy people acting out anime type stuff irl.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491676929 120193500,120193500,2017-04-08 18:31:46,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc Continued from >>120161342",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: MI GENERAL EDITION,Anonymous,lrg hoppe.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,PT,,1491676306 120193500,120193597,2017-04-08 18:32:26,">>120193500 >libertarian general so this is where I will find all the plumbers and construction workers without GED's?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676346 120193500,120193623,2017-04-08 18:32:34,,,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1491676354 120193500,120193671,2017-04-08 18:32:57,,,Anonymous,hoppe wallpaper.png,6FFkhfNPzOTFG7fBozaoCw==,PT,,1491676377 120193500,120193726,2017-04-08 18:33:25,,,Anonymous,rothbard pepe background.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,PT,,1491676405 120193500,120193811,2017-04-08 18:33:59,,,Anonymous,mises pepe background_00000.png,NvjTZFFZD0ZW9acJvKw1vg==,PT,,1491676439 120193500,120193893,2017-04-08 18:34:32,">b-but Gary Johns... Shut it you low energy fag. We ain't some retarded 420 blaze it faggots. We want liberty and the responsibility that goes with it. >b-but somalia a-and warlords ??? Gotta read that shiet https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over https://mises.org/library/anarchy-somalia Somalia is the corpse of a fucking socialist state and it's better off now than before it collapsed. >b-b-but .. ROADS ! If there's a need for roads, they're going to be built by private construction companies, payed by covenants and maintained my said construction companies. They even generate money, because it's like that parts or the road are for rent in order to set up advertisements at the sides. Or there's no need for roads, because we're the fucking gyrocopter master race.",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1491676472 120193500,120194009,2017-04-08 18:35:34,"you should rename it to /RETARD GENERAL/ We all dont have our GED's edition",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676534 120193500,120194069,2017-04-08 18:36:04,">>120193737 Actually I realize money wouldn't exist and you'd trade resources instead. But the same principle still applies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676564 120193500,120194104,2017-04-08 18:36:25,">>120193500 >Get the kike out #FireKushner",,Anonymous,0.jpg,UrCFwLaXO7iR+UQexETjPQ==,US,,1491676585 120193500,120194134,2017-04-08 18:36:38,">>120193726 SAVED >>120193811 SAVED Thanks for the rares.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676598 120193500,120194142,2017-04-08 18:36:44,"I'm thinking of making a website libertarianright.org? the .com is unavailable / too expensive",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491676604 120193500,120194368,2017-04-08 18:38:22,">>120194142 Go for it mate. What would you publish there?",,Anonymous,frogs.png,mLfQNRljK6sT++d9BhGRag==,PT,,1491676702 120193500,120194623,2017-04-08 18:40:19,">>120194368 Dunno desu I just want to get into starting some sites for greater plans I have and it seemed a good place to start as a tester. It's likely it would just have permanent links to the vids / reading lists / links etc. Like a sticky. I mentioned the other day we should have a /bet/ style one for the most important lists.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491676819 120193500,120194911,2017-04-08 18:42:37,">>120194623 Yes, I agree. I think the OP is getting way too long. It should be a few introductory videos, a link to a pastebin and a rotatory thread theme between the Hoppewave, the Pinochet music, American Revolutionary music, etc.",,Anonymous,1488739999641.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1491676957 120193500,120194978,2017-04-08 18:43:13,">>120194483 So you see the problem then? Nothing is stopping people from forming endless, warring, communist dictatorships. Anarchy of any kind doesn't work besides fucking tribalism which is the most retarded stance ever. This is why people laugh at you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491676993 120193500,120195269,2017-04-08 18:45:22,">>120194911 >Hoppewave I really like this music. Please make more.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491677122 120193500,120195408,2017-04-08 18:46:25,">>120194911 Precisely. The website can have all the links so they don't have to be posted in the OP. The OP can then be theme of the day, week, thread edition, and so on.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491677185 120193500,120195434,2017-04-08 18:46:37,">>120194978 My point is that America and China aren't at war with eachother right now DESPITE THERE NOT BEING SOMEONE WHO RULES OVER THE BOTH OF THEM. THE NUKES HAVE NOT BEEN DROPPED BECAUSE PEOPLE DONT WANT TO GO TO WAR YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677197 120193500,120195624,2017-04-08 18:48:08,Do you lads like mutualists? We're nonviolent,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677288 120193500,120195684,2017-04-08 18:48:33,">>120195269 I will when I find the time and proper base song.",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1491677313 120193500,120195749,2017-04-08 18:49:01,">>120195624 >Do you lads like mutualists? Why be a mutualist though? It's not like being in a worker owned firm will increase your living standards.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491677341 120193500,120195752,2017-04-08 18:49:02,">if I were free I would rape children and murder everyone who looked at me funny. Checkmate ancaps,you're just retarded",,Anonymous,Tellmeaboutyourmother.jpg,ikrWACudeLwzEGa2X1fESA==,NL,,1491677342 120193500,120195895,2017-04-08 18:50:06,Daily reminder,,Anonymous,1490971957685.png,ywVULFUbIJ+AFdVdt37L9g==,US,,1491677406 120193500,120196025,2017-04-08 18:51:15,">>120195752 If were free i'd murder child murders. check mate pedos, your human garbage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677475 120193500,120196122,2017-04-08 18:52:00,">>120195752 If were free i'd murder child murderers. check mate pedos, you're human garbage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677520 120193500,120196138,2017-04-08 18:52:12,">>120195895 What are you implying?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491677532 120193500,120196370,2017-04-08 18:54:11,">>120196138 Just be on the lookout for anyone trying to fan flames of division between us. They do not have the best intentions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677651 120193500,120196394,2017-04-08 18:54:21,">>120196138 I think he's saying that we invented /lrg/ to divide and conquer, but I think the cucks are just trying to larp as assholes to make us hate the rest of /pol/ I don't care anyway, /lrg/ will continue and I'm stil down with hanging with the other ideolouges of /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677661 120193500,120196411,2017-04-08 18:54:28,,,Anonymous,Anarchism.jpg,Sid/4H0udula7nq6Ty5z9Q==,BR,,1491677668 120193500,120196417,2017-04-08 18:54:31,">>120195752 Seems like you dont understand even the most basic principles of AnCap. The only retard here is you, and you are a most massive one. A word of advice faggot, stop getting your understanding of AnCapism form memeballs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677671 120193500,120196487,2017-04-08 18:55:05,,,Anonymous,Tax is theft.jpg,DtzH+ccW1R6Rz3MeOTH/ew==,BR,,1491677705 120193500,120196573,2017-04-08 18:55:39,">>120195434 And Senegal and Gambia didn't go to war because they don't want war right? Venezuela and Chile haven't had civil wars because dictatorships work fine? And Somalia is a prime example of AnCap because their economy is booming?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677739 120193500,120196629,2017-04-08 18:56:13,">>120196370 oh ok thanks for clearing that up, I thought you were the nazi or somthing calling us the bad goys. its not really clear just from the screenshot what is implied.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677773 120193500,120196664,2017-04-08 18:56:28,">>120196394 Nah mate I'm not saying that at all, I'm saying if a NatSoc comes in here and starts calling you all retards instead of trying to debate without emotion, that they are most likely shills. I'm a fascist but I support my libertarian bros.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491677788 120193500,120196671,2017-04-08 18:56:32,,,Anonymous,17795935_1550687208292276_5334472190144709404_n.png,jgA/0mZR4pYJ6I0RHeSQKA==,BR,,1491677792 120193500,120196834,2017-04-08 18:57:48,">>120196411 Will blue anarchyball make us into anime?",,Anonymous,1491391985947.gif,DEfyWc3dFupRz4Q5H2QWHg==,GB,,1491677868 120193500,120197226,2017-04-08 19:01:21,"PHYSICALLY REMOVE. KEBAB. COMMIE. FAGGOTS.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491678081 120193500,120197410,2017-04-08 19:02:50,">>120196664 ok I thought it might be that as well. its not very clear tho ive seen the screenshot many times. Maybe say ""They will not divide us"" when you post. anyway, thanks for being a bro and seeing through the shills, I get caught up it too much.",,Anonymous,1484507268099.jpg,1YdMrj8/omKItN/SUl4miQ==,US,,1491678170 120193500,120197617,2017-04-08 19:04:31,">>120197410 Will do next time",,Anonymous,pinochetstencil.jpg,kufxX6dZopZeqBmItVx66g==,US,,1491678271 120193500,120197638,2017-04-08 19:04:43,">>120195895 Let them in, they might learn a thing or two. This divide and conquer shit-tactic might work with the undecided and uninformed, I don't see anything they could say that could convince me to switch to their side, I already know all their arguments.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491678283 120193500,120198037,2017-04-08 19:08:12,">>120193500 >>120193623 >>120193671 >>120193726 >>120193811",,Anonymous,ancap studies.jpg,lQf97SMk6d9hUmGBTyeTgw==,BR,,1491678492 120193500,120198117,2017-04-08 19:08:46,">>120196417 >>120196122 Let me translate my post into Yankistaneese for ya: ""people who make da murdur/pedo argument against ancaps are projecting their own mental problems. You did see the picture of Freud asking about your mom didn't ya? Are you faggots just genetically unable to understand anything that goes beyond autistically screaming KEK and FAGGOT at people you disagree with?",,Anonymous,download (2).jpg,MGH8ojA6QfRdY21ykMVKAQ==,NL,,1491678526 120193500,120198318,2017-04-08 19:10:18,"I see that ancap is popular here due to the whole anti communist feels that are spreading but as someone who thinks ancap is a bit too far out there, how would one package such Libertarian views to be more palatable to the general population aka dumbasses?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491678618 120193500,120198343,2017-04-08 19:10:27,">>120197410 Top right is Minarchism >which is me",,Anonymous,"Ron_Paul,_official_Congressional_photo_portrait,_2007.jpg",NOzf7n0oqE7dN7XZv2PQyw==,US,,1491678627 120193500,120198377,2017-04-08 19:10:43,">>120198037 >Helicopter handbook as strategy heartily kek m8",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491678643 120193500,120198468,2017-04-08 19:11:33,"Daily reminder anarcho-syndicalists are the biggest statists ever. http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/spain.htm They hate anarchy. They're authoritarian communists pretending to be anarchists. ""anarchist"" spain was extremely authoritarian and was poverty stricken The funniest part about all of this is they still had markets(extremely controlled ones)",,Anonymous,1480533700878.jpg,dxnHqwkAO4QcslT7G6/Wcw==,CA,,1491678693 120193500,120198573,2017-04-08 19:12:23,">>120198377 The meme is real. >>120198037 Thank you Manoel.",,Anonymous,reactionary liberty.png,ILJQlodNgOd8kFn6a8eXYA==,PT,,1491678743 120193500,120198576,2017-04-08 19:12:24,,,Anonymous,holy_kek.jpg,Jeo+qp12bsY/dIMEJCvT4Q==,ES,,1491678744 120193500,120198666,2017-04-08 19:13:14,">>120198573 SMASH DEMOCRACY",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491678794 120193500,120198682,2017-04-08 19:13:22,">>120198318 Minarchism. Basically dwarf the state to provide only security and services. >>120198117 >muh philosophy So you have no real argument against pedophilia essentially being allowed in an AnCap society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491678802 120193500,120198769,2017-04-08 19:14:00,">>120198318 Minarchist. I personally think it's better than ancap. I want a constitutional ban on social democratic/socialist and communist parties.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491678840 120193500,120198788,2017-04-08 19:14:08,">>120196370 Yes, I'm aware. Don't worry tho, we're usually not aggressive to you guys since we also want you to be able to live on your own fashy ethno-state so we can both go hunt down criminals and Marxists in safaris.",,Anonymous,hoppe 80s.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,PT,,1491678848 120193500,120198837,2017-04-08 19:14:23,">>120193500 >Libertarian >Right",,Anonymous,1474795433932.jpg,1iFdzE1kvmU6dAYK86YOWg==,GB,,1491678863 120193500,120198890,2017-04-08 19:14:46,">>120198666 CONFIRMED",,Anonymous,hoppe expulsion.png,MYXxcYpUYsv/VE/vI3UFRw==,PT,,1491678886 120193500,120199020,2017-04-08 19:15:43,">>120196834 Free markets and deflationary currency will lead us all to a transhumanist utopia. Socialist kiddies claim that capitalism will ""collapse"" thanks to automation and there will be no jobs available and people will revolt against the system. This can't be further from the truth. In a free market with free banking and a naturally DEFLATIONARY currency. As production and automation increases, prices for capital and consumer goods fall. People would need to work less hours to get the money they need to have a comfortable life. Many more people would be working part time, like 2-3 days a week which would only open up slots for more people to work. Also people would be retiring much eariler which also decreases unemployment. As the price of capital goods falls it creates a massive high paying service sector industry that will create countless jobs. There would be no unemployment. Leftists whine that manufacturing jobs will disappear, SO WHAT? There's always new service sector jobs and they will pay more and more since these firms will be profitable. Think of turning the entire country into a giant amusement park.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491678943 120193500,120199093,2017-04-08 19:16:16,">>120198837 >not an argument",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491678976 120193500,120199193,2017-04-08 19:17:05,">>120199020 You're taking me back to my cyberpunk/transhumanist fad of a few years ago kek",,Anonymous,holy roman empire.png,CWtbYwgPfBbug6DRNImmXQ==,PT,,1491679025 120193500,120199405,2017-04-08 19:18:44,">>120198318 >more palatable to the general population I became libertarian by watching Milton. I still remember being pissed when I was watching the first episode of Free to Choose. But a couple episodes in I was pretty much agreeing fully with what Milton was saying. That and the whole Ron Paul thing and posting on /pol/. https://youtu.be/D3N2sNnGwa4",,Anonymous,Milton virtue.jpg,wYgZnYb9b7V2SVqSTNI7KA==,SI,,1491679124 120193500,120199519,2017-04-08 19:19:43,"Site registered. Trip so I can refer back if needs be. libertarianright.org Suggestions welcome!",,Maximus,file.png,2sb8VIUZl7jORZvBHjP5zQ==,GB,,1491679183 120193500,120199899,2017-04-08 19:22:40,">>120199193 What do you think the economy/society would look like realistically under a free market? I honestly think amusement parks like disneyland and universal studios will be one of the biggest industries. Automation would reduce the amount of people working in farming and manufacturing. The service sector industry would be the biggest part of the economy since automation freed people from manufacturing/farming/mining work. People would only have to work like 2-3 days a week anyway. I want vertical farms now REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I imagine amusement parks the size of new york city being built. Imagine how much land would be freed up since most of the farms would be vertical in large buildings.",,Anonymous,crossfatecityconceptadimono.jpg,B8je37G5xPRI5eEnZHOsig==,CA,,1491679360 120193500,120199970,2017-04-08 19:23:10,">>120199405 Milton is still absolute shit for supporting central banks.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491679390 120193500,120199971,2017-04-08 19:23:10,">>120199519 >libertarianright.org Get the sticky going. Put up a galery of lrg memes/pics btw who is pic related?? saw her in the other thread",,Anonymous,1491687812584.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1491679390 120193500,120200091,2017-04-08 19:24:06,">>120198682 >>120198769 Yeah I see the whole reducing the amount of the government intervention and all but the key here is how would we get others to join. I'm more of a Libertarian-Capitalist myself and don't think that privatization in certain aspects of government would insure unbias is in our legal system. I would prefer a more Night-watchman approach >>120199405 I guess I can watch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491679446 120193500,120200200,2017-04-08 19:24:52,">>120199971 Apparently some Brazilian libertarian. Look for ""fotos da Cecília com frases liberais"" or something on Cuccbook.",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1491679492 120193500,120200210,2017-04-08 19:24:56,"Is libertarianism back? Did Trump's Syria strike bring old /pol/ back?",,Anonymous,4i1kOcoj.jpg,AyDIkuB7u2Xs6W/DR6EF+w==,CA,,1491679496 120193500,120200290,2017-04-08 19:25:24,">>120199519 Awesome! Host the reading list, maybe a legacy of the /lrg/ crusade to slay the Reddit libertarians and reclaim our throne as the true libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491679524 120193500,120200339,2017-04-08 19:25:46,How do you guys feel about MONARCHIES,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491679546 120193500,120200443,2017-04-08 19:26:35,">>120199970 >supporting central banks He shit on the FED from a great height for being instrumental in causing the Great Depression. His idea was to have a constant rate of expansion which couldn't be affected by bureaucrats. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedman's_k-percent_rule",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491679595 120193500,120200512,2017-04-08 19:27:07,">>120200339 Muh NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491679627 120193500,120200560,2017-04-08 19:27:31,">>120200339 Most redpilled statists. Cool guys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491679651 120193500,120200602,2017-04-08 19:27:50,">>120200339 Second best form of government after Libertarian/Decentralized Constitutional Republic.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491679670 120193500,120200612,2017-04-08 19:27:55,">>120200210 For some reason yes. Reminder to bring all anti-globalist-jewish ideologies together, this seems closer to reality than ever before",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491679675 120193500,120200667,2017-04-08 19:28:12,">>120199899 Honestly when I researched transhumanism and futurism I was not yet acquainted with Austrian economics or libertarianism, I was just the typical uninformed average goy. Seems to be an awesome concept, happily waiting for Kurzweil's singularity prediction of GAI in 2030. But yes, prices would fall and we would be free to spend our time in VR and outside, having fun and focusing on soft skills and art. >tfw I'll make Hoppeawave for eternity in VR",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1491679692 120193500,120200689,2017-04-08 19:28:22,">>120199020 >he actually thinks a deflationary currency will come into common use without a war happening for (((completely unrelated))) reasons",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491679702 120193500,120200775,2017-04-08 19:29:00,">>120199971 >>120200290 I'm excited. Don't expect it to go up straight away, I'm incredibly busy until Tuesday. Then onwards I have a lot more free time.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491679740 120193500,120200784,2017-04-08 19:29:03,">>120200200 >quero um tanque e churrasco brasileiro cara",,Anonymous,1485899960836.jpg,rncpf33AEsI/3x0WekwnKA==,PT,,1491679743 120193500,120200802,2017-04-08 19:29:09,">>120200210 I hope so. I mean, don't get me wrong, Hillary would have been worse, but many, I'm sure, are learning now that no politician is going to ""drain the swamp"". People need to begin boycotting the government in any way they can.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491679749 120193500,120200841,2017-04-08 19:29:27,">>120199519 I always wanted a website that listed the best arguments against marxism/socialism/democracy in clear detail for the common person to read. Maybe like a flowchart that behaves like all these arguments usually go. Leftists usually have a million objections, arguments against those objections need to be listed and explained clearly. Here's one about healthcare for example.",,Anonymous,1423784.jpg,fw2siAr+wUFB7qBnnKWPPQ==,CA,,1491679767 120193500,120200966,2017-04-08 19:30:24,">>120200667 >But yes, prices would fall and we would be free to spend our time in VR and outside, having fun and focusing on soft skills and art. Amazing. Got any more libertarian anime pics?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491679824 120193500,120200988,2017-04-08 19:30:34,">>120200841 I like that idea. Perhaps it could be incorporated at some point.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491679834 120193500,120201113,2017-04-08 19:31:35,">>120198837 Whether one is right depends on their economic stance you stupid nigger. There are left-wing libertarians (all of them are bleeding-heart libertarians) and there are right-wing libertarians. Right libertarians value capitalism, whilst left libertarians value socialism, you fucking statist nigger",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491679895 120193500,120201123,2017-04-08 19:31:39,>>120200966,,Anonymous,physical remoawwwooool.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,PT,,1491679899 120193500,120201248,2017-04-08 19:32:38,">>120200784 C H U R R A S C O",,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,PT,,1491679958 120193500,120201269,2017-04-08 19:32:48,">>120200689 I know that countries that try to implement a gold standard or something similar get their country ""liberated"" by the US government.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491679968 120193500,120201302,2017-04-08 19:33:04,">>120200775 Cool, if you need stuff formatted or written I will do it! I don't know shit about html or website creation but I can make graphics ( I made the frog image you used) as well as alt of the graphics you see in these threads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491679984 120193500,120201369,2017-04-08 19:33:30,">>120200966 2/2",,Anonymous,hoppe-sanglasses.jpg,xPYHlnJ8Byb5vByoB1jjBA==,PT,,1491680010 120193500,120201413,2017-04-08 19:33:55,">>120200339 Change that to constitutional monarchy and I'm good with it. Its probably the most based form of statism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491680035 120193500,120201548,2017-04-08 19:35:01,">>120200775 Feel free to iuse all the OC I made thus far, including the quotes and the infographics on us libertarians and (((them))) Libertarians. Very glad to help",,Anonymous,1442623-1-L.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,PT,,1491680101 120193500,120201652,2017-04-08 19:35:52,">>120200339 The argument for improving the land and the Monarch being brought up to be competent makes some sense if there's competition and the people are armed. If the Monarch can get away with extract more value by beating up on his citizens then that's what he's gonna do. Like Kim. I think a democracy with only landowners voting weighted by property value (like shareholders) would produce the most libertarian society so that's what I'd want if there has to be a government.",,Anonymous,Kim troll.jpg,O8UuX4mOyrjYMmMeNcsHPQ==,SI,,1491680152 120193500,120201715,2017-04-08 19:36:19,">>120201369 >>120201123 >tfw I have these already Thanks though, more need to be made.",,Anonymous,1481604609274.jpg,QJPurDyikzzvClp2fxlJ8A==,CA,,1491680179 120193500,120202184,2017-04-08 19:39:56,">>120200339 Better than democracy, that's for sure. But it's still a state.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491680396 120193500,120202341,2017-04-08 19:41:06,">>120201269 The Germans decided to issue currency based on productive labour that provides economic value and (((they))) almost destroyed the world to stop it. I imagine the most likely outcome of automation is that valueless currency will be given as welfare and can be exchanged for products that have been created by a closed loop of machines which require no payment, while an elite class still uses 'valuable' currency earned for their 'work' to buy superior products in a market that is inaccessible to most people.",,Anonymous,1487341919598.png,bbNZQhGK1ZifUR5yT0o8CQ==,GB,,1491680466 120193500,120202940,2017-04-08 19:45:53,"We must eliminate all the leftist scum of 4chan. >>>/lgbt/8070372 >>>/lgbt/8051176",,Anonymous,2063347ed063b560e17eba9da736e3aead7fc47ea83332a2291fdc51c202f075_1.jpg,g0YGAJnIty1j2MX8sQAVsw==,BR,,1491680753 120193500,120203547,2017-04-08 19:50:54,">>120202940 >right wing people can't be gay i hate leftist identity politics",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491681054 120193500,120203665,2017-04-08 19:51:46,">>120193500 >PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace It's like you want to be raided",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681106 120193500,120203926,2017-04-08 19:53:51,">>120202341 >economic value And that value was determined by bureaucrats. Socialism. Not even once.",,Anonymous,venezuela 2016.webm,k0W7byM+zkPJTJvJGFzfbg==,SI,,1491681231 120193500,120203983,2017-04-08 19:54:17,">>120193500 >hoppe >libertarian",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681257 120193500,120204033,2017-04-08 19:54:44,">>120202940 That board is a containment area. We don't want them on the rest of the site.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491681284 120193500,120204059,2017-04-08 19:54:58,">>120203926 what is that, a breadline?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681298 120193500,120204127,2017-04-08 19:55:29,">>120203926 what are they all doing there?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681329 120193500,120204189,2017-04-08 19:55:57,">>120204059 If I remember right it's a literal breadline, yes.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491681357 120193500,120204244,2017-04-08 19:56:21,">>120200841 That's a really good pic. The idea that healthcare in America is a form of free market is such an infuriating meme.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681381 120193500,120204341,2017-04-08 19:57:11,">>120203926 I'm just saying its an example of the measures that will be undertaken if you try to break away from Jewish banking. I know that that exact model wouldn't be feasible long term.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491681431 120193500,120204355,2017-04-08 19:57:20,How do you americans get a helicopterist to run for the libertarian party in 2020?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681440 120193500,120204450,2017-04-08 19:58:06,">>120204244 >The idea that healthcare in America is a form of free market is such an infuriating meme. True. People are REALLY fucking stupid. Here's another one for healthcare.",,Anonymous,1353545092614.png,ToJnpEms2s4wNkpzgsgrqQ==,CA,,1491681486 120193500,120204570,2017-04-08 19:59:07,"Libertarian Group chat- low moderation, active discussion https://t.me/libertarianrg",,Anonymous,1488679016982.jpg,jek1nGQScNRefC1aASs6BQ==,US,,1491681547 120193500,120204572,2017-04-08 19:59:09,Life: Stop aborting children,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491681549 120193500,120204672,2017-04-08 19:59:57,">>120204570 >https://t.me/libertarianrg it only works on phones and tablets?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681597 120193500,120204758,2017-04-08 20:00:42,">>120200841 Here's something that is somewhat related to what you want.",,Anonymous,planned economies 1.jpg,m8Za0VM3nRdAuNiPMch3uA==,CA,,1491681642 120193500,120204834,2017-04-08 20:01:19,">>120204672 Works for pc, but needs a phone number. Doesn't release your phone number to anyone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491681679 120193500,120204923,2017-04-08 20:02:04,">>120203547 I'm a leftist and I also hate identity politics... we have to purge the backyard.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681724 120193500,120205042,2017-04-08 20:03:09,">>120200841 >>120204758 It's from ""Profit risk and incentives under socialist economic planning"" by Wilczynski.",,Anonymous,planned economies 2.jpg,r34W9AM8Yl6m/8Nx9jGGPg==,CA,,1491681789 120193500,120205124,2017-04-08 20:03:52,">>120204758 >Here's something that is somewhat related to what you want. Interesting. What do you think of the idea that after the 1917 revolution and economic collapse the commies were completely fucked and had to get economic help from the capitalist west? https://www.amazon.ca/Wall-Street-Bolshevik-Revolution-Capitalists/dp/190557035X This shit actually fucking happened and it upsets the hell out of commies.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681832 120193500,120205310,2017-04-08 20:05:34,">>120205042 >Wilczynski god damn, can a man get some vowels? interesting read though",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681934 120193500,120205364,2017-04-08 20:06:02,">>120193500 After one week I'm back here boys",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ZzsML+TO87g6eqFAlF11qA==,FR,,1491681962 120193500,120205373,2017-04-08 20:06:05,">>120204923 >I'm a leftist Why? What reason do you have for being a leftist? Do you enjoy being poor and enslaved?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491681965 120193500,120205455,2017-04-08 20:06:54,">>120205364 Hello, Monsieur de Lesquen.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491682014 120193500,120205568,2017-04-08 20:07:46,">>120204834 >Works for pc, but needs a phone number. why? I just downloaded it for my phone why does it need my number?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491682066 120193500,120205637,2017-04-08 20:08:18,>it's a 'but won't private militas take over' episode,,Anonymous,1491603914246.png,8NmmFqEDnFZ5ThLIrXXYUQ==,GB,,1491682098 120193500,120205810,2017-04-08 20:09:46,">>120205568 Because Telegram has lots of public group chats and stuff, they say its only for spam purposes. I would trust them, the company is pretty good and the programmer was even exiled from Russia for being anti government. not exactly a botnet app.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491682186 120193500,120205870,2017-04-08 20:10:19,">>120203547 They will always take ""ownership"" of everything, just like the blacks. >>120204033 All boards of 4chan are containment area. >>120204923 A FUCKING LEAF",,Anonymous,1488134919437s.jpg,q8MYJ9ZPB8LO90U3WfQUXA==,BR,,1491682219 120193500,120205990,2017-04-08 20:11:23,">>120205870 >They will always take ""ownership"" of everything, just like the blacks. The leftists?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491682283 120193500,120206041,2017-04-08 20:11:49,">>120205364 Hey dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491682309 120193500,120206125,2017-04-08 20:12:38,">>120205637 All over and over",,Anonymous,image.jpg,pAXRE8cm+LkvRoJeDSRrjg==,FR,,1491682358 120193500,120206297,2017-04-08 20:14:07,">>120205373 Because extreme free market leads to uncontrolable oligarchy that ends up with more power than elected governments and countries, and those corporations shape the world as one big single market, destroy cultural differences so their products can sell anywhere, and try to impose the same economic laws all over the world. To sum it up; because uncontroled free market leads to corporatism, which leads to globalism. I'm left, but I'm also a nationalist ans isolationist, no multicultural or global proletarian bs for me. You can be left without beign a commie.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491682447 120193500,120206302,2017-04-08 20:14:08,>>120205637,,Anonymous,groundhog-day.jpg,9MlT/MmJE3+jDZNhlj+Y5w==,SI,,1491682448 120193500,120206506,2017-04-08 20:15:53,">>120205042 Where'd ya find this book.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491682553 120193500,120206640,2017-04-08 20:16:55,">>120205990 Yeah, typical leftist tactic. Create divisions, enter or create groups of ""minorities"" anduse this to conquer.",,Anonymous,17757314_1547661305261533_5039672660486458910_n.png,ayUJP1/dhMIUe97MuEAnXA==,BR,,1491682615 120193500,120206654,2017-04-08 20:17:03,">>120205124 The problem is that they can always say that the circumstances were such that it's not surprising that the commies needed help from anyone they could. Something I've heard which I think more damning is that when the commies needed to ""price"" certain commodities which were not, of course, publicly traded, they basically priced them using western free market prices in order to determine the rate of exchange. I haven't read it, but the book ""Turning point"" by Schmelev and Petrovich seems really excellent. It basically advocates for economic reform within the USSR (way back when) and does so by detailing all the inefficiencies that plague the system. Stuff like pic related and much more.",,Anonymous,turning point wastes.png,7neSFgHbXCXGA4cVXR7YRg==,CA,,1491682623 120193500,120206740,2017-04-08 20:17:46,">>120206297 >Because extreme free market leads to uncontrolable oligarchy not really it leads to massive competition and economic production also just because a company is big doesn't mean they're an ""oligarchy"" >destroy cultural differences I can eat Japanese food in Canada how is this a bad thing? I also support severely limiting immigration. What's the problem?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491682666 120193500,120207459,2017-04-08 20:23:35,">>120193500 Love you faggot. Friendly Hello from /nsg/ We will get rid of T_D and return normal and serious NatSoc and Libertarian discussion/banter to /pol/",,Anonymous,1489960057643.png,OuDRtlyA/LdtiaK7/qtqiw==,LV,,1491683015 120193500,120207532,2017-04-08 20:24:15,">>120200443 Milton talks a great deal about how the free market is amazing, and yet he insists that the government monopolize money. He was a massive hypocrite, along with all the Chicagoite shills.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491683055 120193500,120207616,2017-04-08 20:24:53,">>120205124 ""Turning point"" seems to address in part what you were talking about. >>120206297 >impose economic law Economic laws aren't imposed. They are.",,Anonymous,turning point external purchase.png,awWNACiIxeWmZsX0PTScfg==,CA,,1491683093 120193500,120207665,2017-04-08 20:25:19,">>120207459 >We will get rid of T_D and return normal and serious NatSoc and Libertarian discussion/banter to /pol/ God I hope so.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491683119 120193500,120207823,2017-04-08 20:26:22,">>120207459 Ditto. Based Latvia.",,Anonymous,america immigration.gif,hw0HB5uV8y68EcB1ZXw3Ww==,PT,,1491683182 120193500,120208183,2017-04-08 20:29:10,">>120207459 saved",,Anonymous,ancap pol.png,cZeVEZapqSztvXxHVX6I7A==,BR,,1491683350 120193500,120208233,2017-04-08 20:29:32,">>120207459 Thank you, redditors need to go back.",,Anonymous,pol_royal_crest.png,8hZ9oyvvSmLAMXfXzC3JXQ==,US,,1491683372 120193500,120208370,2017-04-08 20:30:33,">>120206740 You don't have an oligarchy because a company is big, you get an oligarchy when only a few companies control a whole market or sector of the industry ex. GAFA Just compare any kind of industry in the last 50-75, food industry for instance, and look at how many companies there was then and now, and tell me consumers really have more choices or power. How's the media landscape in US? What kind of competition still remains when AT&T buys Time Warner? This is the kind of shit that made me support Trump. Dont get me wrong tho, I'm not against free market as a whole, I just want a better control so one player cannot become «too big to fail» and basically call the shots to the governments, like the banks for ex.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491683433 120193500,120208390,2017-04-08 20:30:44,"These threads NEED to be constantly on /pol/. There can be no downtime. >b-b-buh what if nobody replies By having the threads on /pol/ 24/7 you are creating interest in libertarianism and thus will create more replies.",,Anonymous,anarcho-capitalism.png,PbMUyVMvrobxexX8fvjI4Q==,CA,,1491683444 120193500,120208426,2017-04-08 20:30:59,">>120206297 Corporations get more power by buying politicians. In a free market you'd have to produce things cheaper or better than anybody else to maintain a monopoly. It would eventually get broken. The most often case of a monopoly that's brought up is the Rockefeller's Standard Oil. But what they forget to tell you is that Standard Oil also brought the prices down to the lowest before that. >That story continued for the remainder of the century, with the price of kerosene to the consumer falling to 5.91 cents per gallon in 1897. Armentano concludes from the record that “at the very pinnacle of Standard’s industry ‘control,’ the costs and the prices for refined oil reached their lowest levels in the history of the petroleum industry.” >>120207532 I'm against government control as well. But I'm not a huge fan of the gold standard. It's highly cyclical. In theory the rise in value of gold spurring more mining to bring its value back down makes sense. But in practice it's very cyclical where there's fairly big ups and downs in the value of gold.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491683459 120193500,120208479,2017-04-08 20:31:27,">>120205124 Apparently the collectivized farms sucked balls.",,Anonymous,turning point collectivized farms.png,fUET/bYtemt0BwHxvASAsg==,CA,,1491683487 120193500,120208833,2017-04-08 20:34:11,">>120208370 >you get an oligarchy when only a few companies control a whole market or sector of the industry The reason these companies are so big in the first place is because they provided the best and cheapest good or service and people voluntarily bought their products/services. This isn't a bad thing. It's not like it's illegal to compete with them. Large corporations lose market share to smaller firms all of the time. See Apple taking IBM's market share in the 80s, then Samsung taking Apple's marketshare in the 2010s. >food industry for instance, and look at how many companies there was then and now, and tell me consumers really have more choices or power Consumers are getting fucked now thanks to regulatory capture and central banking. The only way to free ourselves from large corporations that get special government privileges is to take away these special government privileges.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491683651 120193500,120208899,2017-04-08 20:34:41,">>120208390 make content too! there's only like 3 or 4 of us who make memes, art, and propaganda!",,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1491683681 120193500,120208906,2017-04-08 20:34:48,">>120205124 I'm just perusing the book. Looks insane.",,Anonymous,turning point gulag system.png,JVZiglGltUO2/V34FcLJkw==,CA,,1491683688 120193500,120208992,2017-04-08 20:35:32,>>120193500,,Anonymous,1465736369449.png,qSWnDVBzOoHZXi4JqfpB5Q==,US,,1491683732 120193500,120209056,2017-04-08 20:36:00,">>120208479 heh this is hilarious post more Also what do you say to marxists when they claim the USSR rapidly industrialized? I usually tell them capitalist nations industrialized far faster and didn't kill millions of people. But do you have anything else that can be said?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491683760 120193500,120209276,2017-04-08 20:37:43,">>120208899 >make content too! But I'm a lazy man. I have plenty of ideas but no mental energy to turn them into reality.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491683863 120193500,120209334,2017-04-08 20:38:12,">>120208426 >But I'm not a huge fan of the gold standard. David Friedman proposed bundle-backed securities for credit. instead of gold you would consider both gold AND silver. of course such a thing would naturally occur in a market for stable currency.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491683892 120193500,120209336,2017-04-08 20:38:12,">>120208833 >It's not like it's illegal to compete with them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Communications_Commission#Bureaus",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491683892 120193500,120209445,2017-04-08 20:39:01,">>120208906 Just reading this makes me think commies literally enjoy being enslaved and beaten. Are they honestly this stupid?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491683941 120193500,120209463,2017-04-08 20:39:10,">>120209056 a major part of the soviet collapse was the soviet direction of resources into physical capital that wasn't borne of a profit motive, or to put it another way, people didn't want the products the factories were making. So while the USSR rapidly industrialized, it wasn't in the direction of improving quality of life like capitalist industrialization",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491683950 120193500,120209480,2017-04-08 20:39:17,">>120209276 did you send me emails? or was that someone else?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491683957 120193500,120209583,2017-04-08 20:40:08,">>120208992 >current year+bombing of khan >still possting T_D shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491684008 120193500,120209604,2017-04-08 20:40:20,">>120208899 Is The Irrepressible Rothbard worth getting? Its' kinda cheap on Amazon for a hardcover.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491684020 120193500,120209663,2017-04-08 20:40:50,post the what pol thinks libertarians are vs how we really are image,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491684050 120193500,120209718,2017-04-08 20:41:12,">>120193500 Too Long Didn't fucking read, kys.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491684072 120193500,120209810,2017-04-08 20:42:00,">>120209334 the reason I'm not sold on gold and silver is because it's used in manufacturing and I want the price of gold and silver to come down like all other goods in the economy",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684120 120193500,120209841,2017-04-08 20:42:13,">>120209334 I know. I like that idea. But it's also speculation. And I heard Hoppe had a problem with its lack of liquidity.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491684133 120193500,120209890,2017-04-08 20:42:42,">>120209480 That was me, yeah.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684162 120193500,120209957,2017-04-08 20:43:12,,,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,PXA+Y4okZDO9UvRSDQx8IQ==,BR,,1491684192 120193500,120209964,2017-04-08 20:43:13,">>120209276 which emails?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491684193 120193500,120210083,2017-04-08 20:44:12,">>120209604 very cool read, shows a lot of rothbards character and covers a shitton of topics. worth it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491684252 120193500,120210139,2017-04-08 20:44:39,">>120209964 did you quote the wrong person?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684279 120193500,120210151,2017-04-08 20:44:44,">>120209810 a lot of people advocate a basket of assets held by the government, so it is an asset-backed security. Not just gold and silver but many precious metals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491684284 120193500,120210283,2017-04-08 20:45:45,">>120209480 >>120209964 sorry meant for ya >>120210139 yep",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491684345 120193500,120210422,2017-04-08 20:46:52,">>120210151 Then the price of those assets goes up. That's still a bad thing. Money should be something else entirely. Maybe a cryptocurrency or something that's half crypto and half physical. Or like paper currency that can be redeemed in crypto. I dunno.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684412 120193500,120210465,2017-04-08 20:47:11,">>120208833 Nowadays they provide the cheapest goods and services because they delocate offshores and turn our countries in consumer based economies while destroying the manufacturing sector. Same logic goes for automatization of production. At that rate our economy will rely on jobless consumers or people working in walmarts. When a small firm tries to compete with a bigger one, they often end up being bought and absorb by the big boy. The Apple and IBM thing happened in the 80's in an emerging market where there was no established giant like today : this is the kind of free market I'm all for.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684431 120193500,120210491,2017-04-08 20:47:25,">>120209810 >>120209841 The stabilizing feature of multiply backed securities is in fact speculation itself. Since it's a non-fiat system which has an intrinsic value as a traded commodity, in-currency brokering will tend to stabilize the price. So say I have a doubly-backed gold-silver currency (and there is not reason to believe the currency itself would limit itself to two commodities), any devaluation in gold can be traded off, in part, with an appreciation in the value of silver.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684445 120193500,120210534,2017-04-08 20:47:45,">>120209056 Once it is demonstrated that other nation can industrialize without communism, it seems to me that there isn't much left to be said. The alleged advantages of communism cannot lie in industrialization since other nations can industrialize without it. What's more, the whole idea of ""the proletariat"" is that it is the WORKING CLASS, that is to say the class that WORKS IN INDUSTRY. This is because Karl Marx believed that the proletariat was the group of people who was in (paraphrasing) ""direct contact with history"" and was going to lead humanity in its next stage of development. All of this to say that, within Marxism, industrialization happens BEFORE communism as a necessary precondition for it. Without industrialization, no proletariat. Without proletariat, no revolution. Without revolution, no communism. So even Marx himself believed industrialization was not a communist phenomena but a capitalist one.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684465 120193500,120210573,2017-04-08 20:48:07,">>120210283 I just emailed him a bunch of ideas for memes and inforgraphic images. I'm shit at making them myself, if you guys are good at making them then please take my ideas",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684487 120193500,120210619,2017-04-08 20:48:27,">>120209718 Fucking brainlet",,Anonymous,image.jpg,HBPvOmFHCWodgyJzEavzig==,FR,,1491684507 120193500,120210693,2017-04-08 20:49:10,">>120209890 Im gonna read through the stuff you gave me and see if i can make it into some kind of content, I gotta break it down into palatable chunks tho. >>120209964 he gave me propaganda material",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491684550 120193500,120210760,2017-04-08 20:49:47,">>120210573 >>120210693 Based",,Anonymous,1398343968784.jpg,QPJdcyUnDjniYfL8XijPMQ==,GB,,1491684587 120193500,120210763,2017-04-08 20:49:48,">>120210422 i'm into the crypto idea myself - i think it will catch on over time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491684588 120193500,120210852,2017-04-08 20:50:25,">>120209964 >>120210693 >the e-mail that saved libertarianism",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,nvAfsdmLwP6Op/ThDMYU3g==,PT,,1491684625 120193500,120210867,2017-04-08 20:50:35,">>120210465 If we had a deflationary currency we wouldn't need that much of a manufacturing sector. Prices would come down for us and service sector jobs would pay just as much as the manufacturing jobs, then prices would be much lower for everything in the economy so our living standards would go up. Outsourcing manufacturing while at the same time depreciating your currency is a fucking retarded idea.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684635 120193500,120210894,2017-04-08 20:50:48,">>120210465 Large companies will always exist in any economic system, and this only because the laws of economics are such that it is more efficient for said companies to be relatively large. The presence of big companies is not some kind of market failure. What's more, new company can always arise. To be sure, these will not be your ""mom and pop"" shop, but rather will be the result of the merger of several smaller companies or of the use of pooled funds managed by banks, financial institutions, insurance companies and so on. For instance, a new airline can be set up this way.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491684648 120193500,120211007,2017-04-08 20:51:44,">>120193500 I'm not a pussy hat wearing kike, but I think Kush is super chill and I'm glad him and Ivanka are running the US government.",,Anonymous,C87e7IWUQAATDIA.jpg,OGGov3FCshqJtAWzjko4dA==,US,,1491684704 120193500,120211077,2017-04-08 20:52:19,">>120210852 >>the e-mail that saved libertarianism heh",,Anonymous,1486151029743.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,CA,,1491684739 120193500,120211179,2017-04-08 20:53:04,">>120210491 I meant that he's just guessing that such securities would be in wide spread use. People might just revert back to gold like they have in the past.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1491684784 120193500,120211252,2017-04-08 20:53:38,">>120193500 Capitalism is already the basis of civilization. What's the point in trying to mix it with anarchism, a completely failed ideology? What's the point in trying to mix the most successful system with the least successful system?",,Anonymous,1455411185262.jpg,bIwrU+7xQ2vE3e/o1EEAnA==,US,,1491684818 120193500,120211300,2017-04-08 20:53:55,">>120211007 No. Actually I am a pussy hat wearing kike. Ha!!! Check and mate, goy! Again!!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491684835 120193500,120211483,2017-04-08 20:55:10,">>120211252 That's why Anarcho Capitalism is a bad name for the ideology. It's best described as Private Law Society or Pure Capitalism.",,Anonymous,1485950475916.png,nADBWJ+GxgLqfIp15rtKKg==,PT,,1491684910 120193500,120211598,2017-04-08 20:56:00,">>120211483 Sup bro.",,Anonymous,kinsella 8-12.jpg,8yjb8djlA9QYKTuWjLL+Ew==,PT,,1491684960 120193500,120211662,2017-04-08 20:56:31,"So are the leafs in this thread going to vote for libertarian(ish) Maxime Bernier? http://www.maximebernier.com/sound_monetary_policy He's literally an austrian economist and is against central banks. If you wanted to vote for him and didn't join the conservative party, you already missed the deadline. If you did join, you can vote for him in a month or so. I really hope he beats that piece of shit O'Leary. If he wins he'll turn the PCs into radical libertarians. It would be hilarious and awesome.",,Anonymous,max.jpg,nsryyaO+utdIWOy4zxhgaQ==,CA,,1491684991 120193500,120211933,2017-04-08 20:58:44,">>120210534 Nice stuff. It's also good to point out that the working class already consumes like 98-99% of all consumer goods. Taking over the means of production will not bring them any more material benefit. They will have to work just as hard and and just as long to get the same living standards they are getting today.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491685124 120193500,120212080,2017-04-08 20:59:48,">>120193500 >libertarian right = ancap wat",,Anonymous,1478730005984.jpg,yiUv9sXINaln8JQqMLwKLw==,CN,,1491685188 120193500,120212107,2017-04-08 20:59:59,">>120210867 But the demand for services would not change, so you still have a net loss of jobs if manufactures go offshore or automatize, even if those who work still have a descent standard of living. How do you replace those jobs? Unless you want a universal income, which I doubt...",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491685199 120193500,120212266,2017-04-08 21:01:08,">>120205870 >just like the blacks Explain.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491685268 120193500,120212414,2017-04-08 21:02:22,">>120211933 The idea that the worker was going to get way richer under communism seemed to have come from the idea of the labor theory of value which, as far as I know, is not taken seriously by anyone anymore. Marx was somehow able to derive the idea that the worker was working extra for the capitalist, and that this extra would go back to him under a communist regime. But as you've said, we can always deflate the expectation of the communist by mentioning exactly what you're mentioned. In order to be as wealthy as we are today, we will have to be as productive, and in order to be as productive, we will have to work just as much. Consumption < Production for every period no matter what the system is.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491685342 120193500,120212451,2017-04-08 21:02:37,">>120211483 If we're going into rebranding le alt-right territory you need something that that people will remember and not have to say ""im a private lawist"" everytime you talk about it. so just say ""im a capitalist"" or whatever sounds simple and not autistic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491685357 120193500,120212545,2017-04-08 21:03:20,">>120207459 I don't care much for you nazi's but as long as you stay in your lands. I guess.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491685400 120193500,120212787,2017-04-08 21:05:29,">>120211483 I prefer stateless capitalism because communists have hijacked the term anarchist to mean without hierarchy and not without state",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491685529 120193500,120212837,2017-04-08 21:05:55,">>120212107 >But the demand for services would not change Yes, it will rapidly increase. You're telling me people wouldn't want private butlers and food being delivered to them for cheap? You're telling me there wouldn't be demand for gigantic amusement parks? >How do you replace those jobs? People who have underconsumed create them? >universal income shit meme",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491685555 120193500,120212909,2017-04-08 21:06:28,">>120212266 Gibsmedats.",,Anonymous,best_meme.jpg,lJW8vuXsono6mSgQO69M/g==,US,,1491685588 120193500,120213065,2017-04-08 21:07:36,">>120212414 Every communist I've talked to has grasped at straws trying to explain away what I told you. It's pathetic. The LTV is fucking meaningless when you realize the working class consumes virtually all of what they produce.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491685656 120193500,120213568,2017-04-08 21:11:55,">>120211598 suo, one last oc before sleep >>120212451 that's what most say anyway >>120212787 this, anarchy is confused with chaos or communism.",,Anonymous,hoppe-looking-for-commies.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,PT,,1491685915 120193500,120213671,2017-04-08 21:12:45,">>120213568 honestly wtf is that image?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491685965 120193500,120213857,2017-04-08 21:14:25,">>120213671 i have no idea",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491686065 120193500,120213892,2017-04-08 21:14:38,">>120213568 very nice indeed. sleep well brah",,Anonymous,physical removal.jpg,61h91cl35uFBvjIF8eYLKQ==,PT,,1491686078 120193500,120213921,2017-04-08 21:14:54,">>120211483 I don't see any problems in the name.",,Anonymous,My catgirl.jpg,r4NGrxp1fn4A/tGzKoXWVQ==,BR,,1491686094 120193500,120213959,2017-04-08 21:15:12,">>120212837 >You're telling me people wouldn't want private butlers and food being delivered to them for cheap? >You're telling me there wouldn't be demand for gigantic amusement parks? Like in North Korea? A nation of butlers, servants and lords... what could go wrong, exept a few heads rolling in the streets I guess... If we want to rationalize production and bet on AI, we will have to talk about that «shit meme» one day or another, if not, we'll have an uprise at one point, and an unstable society is bad for business, and everything else.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491686112 120193500,120214390,2017-04-08 21:18:26,">>120213959 >Like in North Korea? What in the fuck does that have to do with anything? >A nation of butlers, servants and lords... what could go wrong, exept a few heads rolling in the streets I guess... Literally what the fuck does this have to do with anything I said?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491686306 120193500,120214397,2017-04-08 21:18:29,">>120213921 Amazing. >inb4 trap",,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1491686309 120193500,120214595,2017-04-08 21:20:05,">>120213921 m-more...?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491686405 120193500,120214695,2017-04-08 21:20:48,>>120213892,,Anonymous,hoppe-looking-for-commies-niggas.png,WHmGSdMy78qsCy242BjelA==,PT,,1491686448 120193500,120214903,2017-04-08 21:22:14,">>120214695 >>120213892 I fucked a half Portuguese half Chinese chick before. Best night of my life.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491686534 120193500,120215189,2017-04-08 21:24:30,">>120214903 Did she float?",,Anonymous,pennywise.jpg,iBWYXngHSzAkM1ViqphOJA==,PT,,1491686670 120193500,120215251,2017-04-08 21:25:03,">>120214397 how appropriate for Hoppe to look so much like a frog is trap short for trapezius? cause that dude has some broad ass shoulders",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491686703 120193500,120215396,2017-04-08 21:26:16,">>120214397 >>120214595 She took some lewd pics for me, wrote things on the skin... but I do not want to ban again. A trap leaf from /polgbt/",,Anonymous,cute catgirl.jpg,xYqaDv9gmzAUNeAhyppNcw==,BR,,1491686776 120193500,120215426,2017-04-08 21:26:30,">>120193623 I agree with Austin Petersen though...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491686790 120193500,120215547,2017-04-08 21:27:27,">>120215396 >A trap really does look like a fucking trap, huge ass shoulders thin waist",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491686847 120193500,120215809,2017-04-08 21:29:24,">>120215251 No, trap in short of ""it's a he!"" in regards to the image Manoel posted. >>120215396 Is that a trap then? Yes or no? Because those shoulders are making me confused. And that non-existent waist kek >>120215426 The point is that he'd rather do the whole ""ayy lmao dude blaze it"" and pandering to the fringe members of society rather than explaining how libertarianism helps the nuclear family.",,Anonymous,deal with it.gif,M/2rzXaj6fzXo1A8xSnuDQ==,PT,,1491686964 120193500,120216236,2017-04-08 21:32:35,">>120214390 Dude, you're saying people will want private butlers, food delivered to their door and gigantic amusement park, which could replace all the lost manufacturing jobs, and you ask me what the fuck I'm talking about? Seriously?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491687155 120193500,120216484,2017-04-08 21:34:45,">>120215809 >rather than explaining how libertarianism helps the nuclear family. Hasn't he done both? I've watched him debating Johnson and he seemed way to reasonable to not explain how it helps regular people.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491687285 120193500,120216620,2017-04-08 21:35:47,">>120216236 >not wanting giant amusement parks and robot butlers to satisfy your lust >>120216484 I only bothered to watch two debates desu and they happened to be the ones where Faggy Johnson went off with the cakes and when McAffee said shame on us for being white males.",,Anonymous,top doggo.jpg,Xggt3rcEBy4dvE3BgaE4lQ==,PT,,1491687347 120193500,120216948,2017-04-08 21:38:30,">>120215547 >>120215809 A LEAF TRAP",,Anonymous,catgirl master.jpg,R+nIdnCROVpmmRxMZ9RIPA==,BR,,1491687510 120193500,120217110,2017-04-08 21:39:50,">>120216948 I fucking knew it. Get the fuck out.",,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1491687590 120193500,120217170,2017-04-08 21:40:24,>>120216948,,Anonymous,1471220708192.jpg,KZp4NQ1N+MzgoRxp86Pt8A==,US,,1491687624 120193500,120217194,2017-04-08 21:40:34,">>120214595 >>120215547 >>120215809 >>120216948 Funny thing, she's a left-wing",,Anonymous,eJwFwdsNhCAQAMBeKIB9iItrNwQJmqgQ2Pu6XO8383WfcbvdnWZ97gDHNXMbh5_WRqrF19bqXVK_ps_tgWSW8vmU1yawSEBljLyIkrIKsKIEWVE3ooAYMQKFTWhhJFkp-P5W9_sDvUQiZg.XEr2h2SvPEKreG31TaukLvp1ICk.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,BR,,1491687634 120193500,120217289,2017-04-08 21:41:27,">>120217194 That monstrosity is this meme come true. Have you got no moral compass whatsoever Manoel?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491687687 120193500,120217383,2017-04-08 21:42:19,">>120216948 More of her with the panties and sports bra on.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491687739 120193500,120217815,2017-04-08 21:45:38,">>120213921 >Catgirl >girl not with that frame jack",,Anonymous,lawtiat-quote-picture.jpg,avHwjph77gdRpQx5t2g7DQ==,US,,1491687938 120193500,120217998,2017-04-08 21:47:08,">>120216948 You will be trespassed from society in short order",,Anonymous,physicallyremoveed.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,US,,1491688028 120193500,120218039,2017-04-08 21:47:29,">>120216948 >>120215396 >>12021738 fucking hell gtfo with this shit.",,Anonymous,moly.jpg,wGhSc300rh76jObYAzMLFg==,US,,1491688049 120193500,120218108,2017-04-08 21:48:05,">>120217815 You don't have a monopoly on gendering words.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491688085 120193500,120218393,2017-04-08 21:50:20,">>120218108 call yourself whatever you want you can't make anyone call you a girl when they just see a fruitbat",,Anonymous,hazlit.jpg,Fjxt1tzx69hLSbG8/0ZNSA==,US,,1491688220 120193500,120218400,2017-04-08 21:50:24,">>120217289 >>120217383 >>120217815 >>120217998 >>120218039 I will have as many traps as I want on my private property.",,Anonymous,1491192843681.gif,fGrwVTp0wgkT8iPDSVkCVQ==,BR,,1491688224 120193500,120218513,2017-04-08 21:51:19,">>120218400 you will but it's kinda disgusting to derail the thread in that way man.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491688279 120193500,120218518,2017-04-08 21:51:22,">>120218108 You need Jesus. Please get help.",,Anonymous,1489200410125.png,SMxYnkE6ByYfK61Yn0EHpg==,US,,1491688282 120193500,120218552,2017-04-08 21:51:34,,,Anonymous,rothbradtaxes.jpg,fvM+ntAxcVlyq379XrOXjg==,US,,1491688294 120193500,120218647,2017-04-08 21:52:18,">>120218400 Fine",,Anonymous,1478916594049.gif,pQYHSEJ8IDn5tRHAqFBNyQ==,US,,1491688338 120193500,120218725,2017-04-08 21:53:01,">>120218400 Sure but I was asking for more photos.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491688381 120193500,120218783,2017-04-08 21:53:28,,,Anonymous,lewylewylewy.jpg,Z2SuJdfDniRKQwPkOeJ8tA==,US,,1491688408 120193500,120218946,2017-04-08 21:54:45,Can't forget the classics,,Anonymous,spoonerbased.jpg,NFjW526h7GH6TbPQ+5/SfA==,US,,1491688485 120193500,120218963,2017-04-08 21:54:52,">>120218400 Just don't let any of your degenerate trannies sneak onto my property, cuz they gone' get removed with extreme prejudice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491688492 120193500,120219097,2017-04-08 21:55:56,">>120218513 I posted a pic, the chasers asked for more...",,Anonymous,1491686781932.jpg,gSLUPyGk4EjjP9qBGusafg==,BR,,1491688556 120193500,120219111,2017-04-08 21:56:03,Anyone have more dank memes? I only have quotes,,Anonymous,recreationalnucc.jpg,a5zujow1dlkEVeuJoNr6Xg==,US,,1491688563 120193500,120219176,2017-04-08 21:56:36,>>120219111,,Anonymous,PHYSICALLY. GASSED..png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,PT,,1491688596 120193500,120219236,2017-04-08 21:56:57,,,Anonymous,hoppeonconflict.jpg,iHXofNrZpzBu/vI0a0PCwA==,US,,1491688617 120193500,120219239,2017-04-08 21:56:59,">>120215189 Yes.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491688619 120193500,120219418,2017-04-08 21:58:18,">>120219176 thanks senpai",,Anonymous,Lew-Rockwell.jpg,s2ix/g3MYtJqeXMY8rZSJQ==,US,,1491688698 120193500,120219671,2017-04-08 22:00:12,">>120216948 muh dick >>120217194 >she's a left-wing How left wing? God damn, for her to do this for you, you must have been able to convert her.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491688812 120193500,120219679,2017-04-08 22:00:15,">>120219097 Not chaser, just jelly.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491688815 120193500,120219720,2017-04-08 22:00:34,">>120219418 I'm going to do some dank new Rothbard quotes tomorrow and will post them here.",,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1491688834 120193500,120220420,2017-04-08 22:06:33,>>120219111,,Anonymous,1491674902426.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,CA,,1491689193 120193500,120220706,2017-04-08 22:08:42,">>120219720 Based. Hoppe is quickly becoming my bread and butter, but rothbard needs some good shilling.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491689322 120193500,120220746,2017-04-08 22:09:03,">>120219671 She was a communist ... now it's on the green square. Maybe one day. Many traps and trans to convert. >>120219679 Did you come by the /lgbt/ link? She causes jealousy of other traps I know. Chubby traps are beautiful too.",,Anonymous,1487281116687.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,BR,,1491689343 120193500,120220948,2017-04-08 22:10:51,">>120220746 Gross dude, please take your tranny discussion to /nsg/ and make them look bad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491689451 120193500,120221055,2017-04-08 22:11:41,">>120220706 I wasn't able to find memeable quotes of Rothbard until now that I've gotten to snoop around the Reader and his articles on Lew Rockwell.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491689501 120193500,120221259,2017-04-08 22:13:22,,,Anonymous,ancommemerefutation.jpg,7OZYKfTZdhWW0H0q8ACRsA==,US,,1491689602 120193500,120221339,2017-04-08 22:14:02,">>120220746 >She was a communist ... now it's on the green square. Maybe one day. Many traps and trans to convert. Okay wait what. You're going to have to explain this entire thing to me. You live in Brazil, she lives in Canada. How did you meet her and make her wear ancap stuff? How much of a communist was she? Why would you even associate with a communist to begin with?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491689642 120193500,120221369,2017-04-08 22:14:11,Rothbard as requested,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,QohK4xkwv7OjvTtlRu1HNA==,US,,1491689651 120193500,120221507,2017-04-08 22:15:16,">>120193726 one day we will kill every last one of you pathetic libertarians",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491689716 120193500,120221579,2017-04-08 22:15:49,>>120216948,,Anonymous,1472377456477.jpg,LUiQRfDzsO9/QNxDVryU+A==,US,,1491689749 120193500,120221627,2017-04-08 22:16:07,">>120220948 >/nsg/ I do not even know this crap, I just /pol/ and /lgbt/ for me.",,Anonymous,eJwNykEOhCAMAMC_8ABaSq3gbwgSNFEh0D1t9u_rYW7zNZ9xmc0cqn1uAPs5cxu7ndpGqsXW1upVUj-nze2GpJrycZdHJ5AIYyRcyUt0kaLAy8WwemT2CxFyAMdhQRL3JkTbn2p-f74rImo.WvrvYMo28joTiX-zXMtYQ-lfK7A.png,YVYe41zNT07hfgKQEznsYg==,BR,,1491689767 120193500,120221675,2017-04-08 22:16:28,">>120221507 >one day we will kill every last one of you pathetic libertarians lmao nah you faggots don't have guns",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491689788 120193500,120221697,2017-04-08 22:16:39,">>120221507 Not before you get your head chopped off with a helicopter blade, you fucking scum.",,Anonymous,hhh physical removal.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,PT,,1491689799 120193500,120221698,2017-04-08 22:16:39,">>120221507 I don't see much of an Australian threat to liberty",,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,US,,1491689799 120193500,120221727,2017-04-08 22:16:52,">>120220746 >Did you come by the /lgbt/ link? which link?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491689812 120193500,120222072,2017-04-08 22:19:32,">>120221627 NatSoc general. But seriously please don't post feminine cocks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491689972 120193500,120222121,2017-04-08 22:19:52,">>120221727 >asking for a friend",,Anonymous,what must be done neon.jpg,0f2yk22s7MxfnMN9oDL/WA==,PT,,1491689992 120193500,120222590,2017-04-08 22:23:32,">>120221507 >aussie nofunz think he can do anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491690212 120193500,120222609,2017-04-08 22:23:39,"I don't get why /lrg/ makes such an enemy of left libertarians. Anyone who truly fights the cause of liberty will not force their ideology on others. Left libertarianism can exist within an insular community alongside a right libertarian community. You're all so worried about ""commies"" among you when it's the globalist military-industrial-mindcontrol complex you should be working together to overthrow.",,Anonymous,july_28_liberty_leading_the_people.jpg,lCrZOrP9YwGYCTeGvaaXTA==,CA,,1491690219 120193500,120222910,2017-04-08 22:26:16,">>120221339 An American trap that I am a friend (She is an old /pol/tard) introduced us on /polgbt/. We became friends, we only talked for a long time until we started playing on skype, It's a long story... She does not have much interest in politics, she's just a proud Canadian.",,Anonymous,1488534608771.jpg,KQ0P5zOF33m4uhc+4nqdMQ==,BR,,1491690376 120193500,120223087,2017-04-08 22:27:43,">>120222910 >She does not have much interest in politics Oh so you're a liar then. Good thing she's not a commie. also >being a proud canadian lol why? our country is garbage",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491690463 120193500,120223303,2017-04-08 22:29:27,"About time. I'm lost on what to think regarding Trump's actions on Syria. Is this 1776D chess or what? t. colony",,Anonymous,no step on snek.jpg,StNrRGD78jpDHfn4/axtfA==,BR,,1491690567 120193500,120223399,2017-04-08 22:30:21,">>120223303 >I'm lost on what to think regarding Trump's actions on Syria. Is this 1776D chess or what? No, he's just a neocon now.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491690621 120193500,120223454,2017-04-08 22:30:51,">>120223087 No, he sold out on us. If Bannon gets zucc'd then it's over.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491690651 120193500,120223515,2017-04-08 22:31:26,">>120221727 The leftists tried to provoke a fight on /lgbt/, the right-wing gays, traps and lesbians fought back and someone posted the link to /lrg/ >>>/lgbt/8051176 >>>/lgbt/8070372 >>>/lgbt/8066099 I think it was in one of those threads.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491690686 120193500,120223924,2017-04-08 22:34:43,">>120222609 Its because some people are just scared of the gays/minorities/etc and see ancap as way to have that utopia. The hate for the far left has tainted the views of left libertarians as more commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491690883 120193500,120224055,2017-04-08 22:35:52,">>120223515 Okay, I've been in those threads posting. There seems to be a lot of right wingers there. Nice.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491690952 120193500,120224069,2017-04-08 22:35:58,">>120223515 Stop posting my OC in a faggot board reeeeeee",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491690958 120193500,120224164,2017-04-08 22:36:39,">>120223087 She did the tests twice, first time was almost a Stalin.",,Anonymous,Truechart.png,IKJJWQDBPumoFwhk5TEYUA==,BR,,1491690999 120193500,120224435,2017-04-08 22:38:51,">>120224164 >basing her political ideology off a shitty biased test that manipulates people to the left anyway That test is highly manipulative.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491691131 120193500,120224731,2017-04-08 22:41:20,"You're not a libertarian if you don't support the space elevator. We can deploy solar power satellites and generate so much energy we could eliminate taxes within just a few years. Taxation is theft. End it. This is not theoretical. It will happen.",,Anonymous,691524.jpg,UfpPjhdVXXwwHeJjBC7Bwg==,US,,1491691280 120193500,120225035,2017-04-08 22:43:52,">everyone stopped posting Is this how the party of rothbard dies?",,Anonymous,1485619012419.jpg,k2jy6rau8cBb5dZ/wASKnw==,CA,,1491691432 120193500,120225208,2017-04-08 22:45:13,">>120224435 We talked about it, m8. But she has many other things to think about right now and I prefer to talk about other things... do other things with her... But soon will have new pics. Now let's stop talking about it. I love this thread.",,Anonymous,100_7743.jpg,1alsu4YjqgwhBaj8RuohOA==,BR,,1491691513 120193500,120225390,2017-04-08 22:46:29,">>120225035 this Brazilian guy posting faggotry is making us all look bad :(",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491691589 120193500,120225408,2017-04-08 22:46:38,">>120225208 she seems really tall she could probably beat me up :",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491691598 120193500,120225690,2017-04-08 22:48:52,">>120224731 You sound like you actually enjoyed playing Civilization: Beyond Earth. >Energy is currency >Diamond Battery tech could make this a reality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491691732 120193500,120225760,2017-04-08 22:49:30,"We really need a discord. I'm drinking and need to talk to other libertarians.",,Anonymous,1483948626789.jpg,8UsyEh9eADzAbrThsYR8Kw==,CA,,1491691770 120193500,120225963,2017-04-08 22:51:15,">>120225208 Holy fuck dude, please you're fucking killing me. Send your faggot friend your email address and talk gay shit there. I don't want none of this shit here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491691875 120193500,120226055,2017-04-08 22:52:03,">>120225690 If you can generate electricity for less than 1/kwh and the worldwide average cost is 17c/kwh, would you say there's some potential for a little markup there? A few trillion a year? Or do you like taxes?",,Anonymous,54896.jpg,uQQbyZggvSm/MKxI4on37A==,US,,1491691923 120193500,120226415,2017-04-08 22:54:58,">>120225390 >>120225963 Sorry, accept this meme I made as an apology.",,Anonymous,C.jpg,NOz3my0RjlB6U20v5+kK1w==,BR,,1491692098 120193500,120226612,2017-04-08 22:56:28,">>120226415 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491692188 120193500,120227260,2017-04-08 23:01:47,">>120226415 Eat shit, you nasty queen. This is what happens when you don't physically remove faggots from your libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491692507 120193500,120227775,2017-04-08 23:06:04,">>120225208 Tell her a BBC would like to smash that. >>120226415 Again with this shit nigger?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491692764 120193500,120228036,2017-04-08 23:08:06,"One issue I see with libertarianism is that the majority of people will always fall right back into government. You would have to convince the vast majority of americans that government fucks shit up and people should have self-ownership. That will never fucking happen considering we're about half leftist. At best we can enable states rights and let good states save themselves from the tyranny of government. I'm being practical here. The smaller and more decentralized power, the better. It's not that corruption isn't impossible, it's just way more limited, and it will actually get passed in american politics. I'm sure California won't want to have gun rights. I'm also sure the red states don't want obamacare. Let the californians be free from us, and we can be free from them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491692886 120193500,120228221,2017-04-08 23:09:31,">>120226612 >But the reason this doesn't sound good is that this wouldn't work... She said that now. As another leaf, recommend for me some books that a Canadian trap might interest and leave the left side.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491692971 120193500,120228454,2017-04-08 23:11:26,"Since my Kikebook attempt failed, let me try here too. In Ancapistan, how do you stop someone richer than you from extracting your money by threat of force?",,Anonymous,serveimagefyj.jpg,9tlmYJ1xMpa/6Nz17JXCug==,GR,,1491693086 120193500,120228486,2017-04-08 23:11:41,">>120228221 >She said that now. You mean she just said that? You're talking to her right now? >As another leaf, recommend for me some books that a Canadian trap might interest and leave the left side. No idea. Maybe tell her how her living standards will dramatically improve with free markets.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491693101 120193500,120229167,2017-04-08 23:16:50,">>120228486 Yes, now. I thought about recommend the New Libertarian Manifesto and Anatomy of the State",,Anonymous,xvcxcvcxv.jpg,Ppv1kEuDziHeAq0Nl/8pnQ==,BR,,1491693410 120193500,120229671,2017-04-08 23:20:57,">>120228454 I don't think this is an issue ancap Solves, neither does our current system fix this. It's thievery, plain and simple. Powerful people overpower the weak. The only theory that ""Solves"" this is communism. Which we know doesn't hold true in practice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491693657 120193500,120229708,2017-04-08 23:21:13,">>120200091 I was thinking, if someone started a nation based around Libertarianism, since there'd probably not be any private business's at the time, could 5h3 government provide basic services such as water, power, internet and roads? And it could also offer an alternative if there's only one private company providing those services.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491693673 120193500,120230121,2017-04-08 23:24:39,">>120229167 Your main argument should be against central banks and how they reduce people's living standards. Start there.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491693879 120193500,120231876,2017-04-08 23:39:50,">>120230121 Just force her to wear black and yellow.",,Anonymous,vzxvvz.jpg,QD04Kbt2WFzSGvUDbUAiAQ==,BR,,1491694790 120193500,120232844,2017-04-08 23:48:32,bump,,Anonymous,1489074998749.png,+NT+tYQJPM3YvDBpNANufg==,BR,,1491695312 120193500,120233111,2017-04-08 23:50:43,">>120231876 oh well, if she doesn't care for politics, then don't force it on her also thats hot she(male) calls you master",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491695443 120193500,120234105,2017-04-08 23:59:04,">>120233111 I have maple fever, don't tease on me",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491695944 120193500,120234544,2017-04-09 00:02:49,">>120232844 The Gadsden flag doesn't deserve to be associated with that filthy fucking antifa logo. Stop that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491696169 120193500,120234993,2017-04-09 00:06:26,">>120225760 This plz",,Anonymous,IMG_20170129_025320_482.jpg,uYPFrC2G2OJ0UEIUhAkbVQ==,US,,1491696386 120193500,120235256,2017-04-09 00:08:53,You fuckers killed the thread. Why did you have to do this shit here.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491696533 120193500,120235587,2017-04-09 00:11:52,">>120235256 Pussy, revive the daamm thread.",,Anonymous,6c844f00084dc08b55c21f8bd7c5629f745aa0c8fc7ff8c6b24d44d30e7d90f8_1.jpg,7ONnhKVpP6IplxlDCiNjfg==,BR,,1491696712 120193500,120235730,2017-04-09 00:13:28,"No, let it die.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491696808 120193500,120236309,2017-04-09 00:18:36,,,Anonymous,61f3d33de60389dd12c6e277a0613b8a95b6be042f9572089907527462ff526a_1.jpg,N4mkGaUMnWHIDgXvOl6I9Q==,BR,,1491697116 120274698,120274698,2017-04-09 07:54:29,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Website coming soon edition,Anonymous,1491683273326.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,GB,,1491724469 120274698,120274879,2017-04-09 07:57:23,,,Anonymous,1491690706678.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,GB,,1491724643 120274698,120275033,2017-04-09 07:59:53,,,Anonymous,1491702694901.jpg,fvM+ntAxcVlyq379XrOXjg==,GB,,1491724793 120274698,120275175,2017-04-09 08:01:48,Bump for snakes,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491724908 120274698,120275186,2017-04-09 08:01:54,In for a libertarian Sunday,,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491724914 120274698,120275292,2017-04-09 08:03:20,,,Anonymous,mises pepe.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,GB,,1491725000 120274698,120275306,2017-04-09 08:03:33,who /bernie/ here?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491725013 120274698,120275839,2017-04-09 08:11:36,"/pol/ moves too fast for comfy generals on a Sunday. All the school kiddies shitposting. >>120275306 Begone",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491725496 120274698,120277279,2017-04-09 08:29:58,This is the win-win position isn't it.,,Anonymous,file.png,A/0wWN47/L5WFguZid5lCw==,GB,,1491726598 120274698,120277460,2017-04-09 08:32:02,">>120274698 >LIBERTARIAN THREAD ON /LGBT/ >/leftypol/ raid the thread Look this >>>/lgbt/8073211",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491726722 120274698,120277622,2017-04-09 08:34:00,,,Anonymous,1489949920632.png,7pxzBOPQMBcE7IN8NsL3ZQ==,BR,,1491726840 120274698,120277669,2017-04-09 08:34:42,Bump.,,Anonymous,gadsden gun sounds.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,SK,,1491726882 120274698,120277685,2017-04-09 08:34:52,">>120274698 Hello, I have namecoins and zeronet. Do you want me to make a libertarian website on zeronet?",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1491726892 120274698,120277743,2017-04-09 08:35:32,">>120277460 REEEE stop advertising us to homos!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491726932 120274698,120277762,2017-04-09 08:35:49,,,Anonymous,1491710814850.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,CA,,1491726949 120274698,120277813,2017-04-09 08:36:31,,,Anonymous,snek.gif,En4w89ZgogsndLKV/ufc1g==,BR,,1491726991 120274698,120277874,2017-04-09 08:37:20,">>120277685 Nein, it is coming soon senpai.",,Anonymous,file.png,RUZIBBmaOSBoPHIz64Q0DQ==,GB,,1491727040 120274698,120277907,2017-04-09 08:37:44,">>120277743 Help the based homos and MtF libertarians and ancaps against the commies!",,Anonymous,1489488133020.png,7bquruTPrH1PEyBgLSiO0Q==,BR,,1491727064 120274698,120277963,2017-04-09 08:38:33,">>120277874 nice tellme later if you ever need .bit uncensorable zeronet domains",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1491727113 120274698,120278154,2017-04-09 08:41:13,">>120277907 >Based >Homo A based homo would know to shut up about his personal life when representing a political movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491727273 120274698,120278222,2017-04-09 08:42:02,">>120277907 check out this dank homo in a rand hat fuckin based",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491727322 120274698,120278278,2017-04-09 08:42:41,">>120277874 Lemme know what kinda graphics you need.",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME_2_.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1491727361 120274698,120278530,2017-04-09 08:46:26,a bumb,,Anonymous,,,IN,,1491727586 120274698,120278642,2017-04-09 08:47:47,">>120278278 We (as in everyone) could do with an /lrg/ logo. Like the frog one in the OP, but maybe with a snake. Maybe both with guns etc. ? >>120277963 Based. I love crypto so agree it should be there at some point.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491727667 120274698,120278865,2017-04-09 08:50:39,How are we m8's?,,Anonymous,AussieLib.png,r8bDNW81yvzVQoyyIewyTg==,AU,,1491727839 120274698,120278885,2017-04-09 08:50:51,">>120278154 >>120278222 We are NeetSoc? I didn't even tell if I'm gay, just trying to show that there is discussion about politics and economics on another board.",,Anonymous,shit.jpg,hcR5t6Lq7MBMpZZtPh+hcg==,BR,,1491727851 120274698,120278958,2017-04-09 08:51:44,,,Anonymous,1491192936593.png,DvoV9/FztdxLjL3NFG0npA==,BR,,1491727904 120274698,120278974,2017-04-09 08:52:04,,,Anonymous,1491192951646.png,riDXuiW7MKog8Audno6KZQ==,BR,,1491727924 120274698,120278998,2017-04-09 08:52:22,,,Anonymous,1490845626281.png,8qrY7AT3qV81b8uirt+m7A==,BR,,1491727942 120274698,120279083,2017-04-09 08:53:24,you can't just throw ALL your problems out of helicopters,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491728004 120274698,120279135,2017-04-09 08:54:03,,,Anonymous,1490860690575.jpg,g9HRB0pWO1evYEVADfJOMw==,BR,,1491728043 120274698,120279182,2017-04-09 08:54:41,">>120278865 Hey m8!",,Anonymous,1491193277767.jpg,DiCa9kboccEa7iTIneP2wQ==,BR,,1491728081 120274698,120279260,2017-04-09 08:55:33,">>120274698 time to post some OC",,Anonymous,evidence-youre-wrong-comic.png,tb24SZ5SXAAr9bRikoQtKQ==,PL,,1491728133 120274698,120279312,2017-04-09 08:56:09,">>120274698 OC",,Anonymous,mcnukem3d.png,/5+yuWsHMzlWXjvVt+Bhag==,PL,,1491728169 120274698,120279409,2017-04-09 08:57:14,,,Anonymous,17309663_1878873379016389_211858181996635006_n.jpg,u+XxyGBGCK2QPLw5GcQQzw==,BR,,1491728234 120274698,120279511,2017-04-09 08:58:39,That's where you're wrong kiddo.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491728319 120274698,120279521,2017-04-09 08:58:47,">>120274698 another oc",,Anonymous,McNUKE.png,NaJds+KosBhnwVNku057Ew==,PL,,1491728327 120274698,120279606,2017-04-09 08:59:49,">>120274698 another one",,Anonymous,Waitingforthisthreadto404.png,B+twT/umAuJd2sC76LdwkQ==,PL,,1491728389 120274698,120279714,2017-04-09 09:01:10,"the capcha for this post was ""select all pictures with roads""",,Anonymous,1490814218479.jpg,46eN6oZeiAAjKXQhMiJmaQ==,NL,,1491728470 120274698,120279854,2017-04-09 09:02:44,Thank you based poland,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491728564 120274698,120279884,2017-04-09 09:03:15,">>120279714 Great comment, /leftypol/, now go preach Marx to some Turk.",,Anonymous,taxation is theft mud roads.jpg,aVBChoRQB2J+Pel7cLsKvQ==,BR,,1491728595 120274698,120279904,2017-04-09 09:03:31,>>120279409,,Anonymous,1487678730327.jpg,73euoJM42LFRIQKR9gMyAw==,NL,,1491728611 120274698,120279918,2017-04-09 09:03:39,">>120274698 Selling children is a nice thing, I also fully support child slaves for my heroin laboratory",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491728619 120274698,120279975,2017-04-09 09:04:23,">>120279714 Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491728663 120274698,120280048,2017-04-09 09:05:14,>>120274698,,Anonymous,recreationalnucc.jpg,a5zujow1dlkEVeuJoNr6Xg==,BR,,1491728714 120274698,120280148,2017-04-09 09:06:22,">>120279884 Chill, man I ain't no lefty. I just thought it was funny in an /lrg/ thread. Remember that snek gif you posted up above? I made that",,Anonymous,NL_Snek.jpg,0y2NkXabsKjk2pVC/Xo0Ng==,NL,,1491728782 120274698,120280172,2017-04-09 09:06:42,">>120275186 Wait, its Sunday over there as well?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491728802 120274698,120280226,2017-04-09 09:07:23,>>120279918,,Anonymous,Tellmeaboutyourmother.jpg,ikrWACudeLwzEGa2X1fESA==,NL,,1491728843 120274698,120280350,2017-04-09 09:08:49,">>120274698 daily reminder that nazis, fascists and other oppressors deserve helicopter rides like commies.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1491728929 120274698,120280399,2017-04-09 09:09:25,op is british nigger,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491728965 120274698,120280449,2017-04-09 09:09:55,The Thread is getting shilled hard. wtf is going on here?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491728995 120274698,120280590,2017-04-09 09:11:35,">>120280350 Commies are much higher priority though, and the natsocs and fascists can help get rid of them.",,Anonymous,hoppex4.jpg,/+XYJSSpbu9tYG0FkYsUow==,US,,1491729095 120274698,120280693,2017-04-09 09:12:52,">>120278642 I make most the content here. i'll work on somthing. heres whats probably the ""default"" logo i use but i have some with sneks i will post.",,Anonymous,FlagCutout.png,FO6ekDiFrKl7n3jCVbrZJQ==,US,,1491729172 120274698,120280819,2017-04-09 09:14:31,">>120280590 >>120280590 No serbian ever posted in lrg before, we're getting D&c'd hard. I Dont want to have drama between the nazis and libertarians of /pol/ we both have goals of keeping faggot communist bitches out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491729271 120274698,120280848,2017-04-09 09:14:54,">>120280693 >>120278642",,Anonymous,Veteran.png,qOMwNUw+PBhJvlZvg5vbsw==,US,,1491729294 120274698,120280880,2017-04-09 09:15:16,">>120280449 >Shills on /pol/ It's getting retarded man. I can't tell the real shills from the fake shills who are trying to be obvious as to discredit the actual shills anymore. It's not doing anyone any favors, try making an ironic joke or sarcastically posting an opinion you disagree with to poke fun at it, everyone just starts screaming cuck and shill at you.",,Anonymous,sadpino.jpg,k29Sdt0ID7OlAt7D1t8XIw==,NL,,1491729316 120274698,120281025,2017-04-09 09:17:02,">>120280590 Natsocs are commies",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491729422 120274698,120281121,2017-04-09 09:18:00,hello guys. Beautiful sunday here in Poortugal,,Anonymous,1488739999641.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1491729480 120274698,120281254,2017-04-09 09:19:40,">>120280880 dude its gotten so bad I had to stop by /nsg/ and tralk to them to find out what was up with the shills, if you want to take their word for it they really don't hate us. they say most of them were libertarians at some point. and that lefty-pol, reddit, and some for of CTR type group is trying to fuck with us. we GOTTTA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491729580 120274698,120281331,2017-04-09 09:20:37,">>120281025 Natsoc don't have some kind of BS labor theory of value with an assorted notion that the working class has a direct insight into the process of History so no. >>120281121 Good day to take care of your spiritual need, however you may do that. (Meditation master race here.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491729637 120274698,120281419,2017-04-09 09:21:41,">>120281121 Hey dude >>120281254 My computer got fucked up I couldn't finish my post hold on",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491729701 120274698,120281761,2017-04-09 09:26:05,">>120281254 We gotta get agressive and kick out some shills and left-libertarians in the taint. is what i was trying to say. NO TOLERANCE FOR COMMUNISTS AND DEMOCRATS.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491729965 120274698,120282549,2017-04-09 09:35:38,,,Anonymous,1491738656750.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,ES,,1491730538 120274698,120282647,2017-04-09 09:36:51,,,Anonymous,brb_40_days_in_the_desert.jpg,tqSmGWy0iH1/WTMQZ25KtQ==,ES,,1491730611 120274698,120282868,2017-04-09 09:39:21,">>120279918 If you want to be entirely self-sustaining you will have the incentive to give your child slaves a good education and take care of them. Heroin production ain't easy.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491730761 120274698,120283143,2017-04-09 09:41:55,">>120274698 Have you ever heard about Rojava? It seems they are building a libertarian society over there. I hope they survive the war.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491730915 120274698,120283310,2017-04-09 09:43:52,,,Anonymous,Nihlo-Libertarians.png,u8CBtNMqHfkWoRkj7yf1uw==,US,,1491731032 120274698,120283333,2017-04-09 09:44:03,">>120283143 Democratic socialism?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491731043 120274698,120283715,2017-04-09 09:48:07,">>120278885 is there a non-violent way to make these fucks to understand that nobody is stealing your labor and that labor has jack shit do to with value ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491731287 120274698,120283806,2017-04-09 09:48:59,">>120283715 No.",,Anonymous,Nihlo-Libertarians.png,Yso4rX1v3DGTx0t8FlJYZQ==,US,,1491731339 120274698,120283902,2017-04-09 09:50:02,">>120283333 Yeah, it manages to be democratic, socialist and libertarian at the same time. Crazy, right?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491731402 120274698,120284206,2017-04-09 09:52:55,>>120283806,,Anonymous,Uncompromising.png,pgsZDQrCBw4ZzV+Y40AEgw==,US,,1491731575 120274698,120284348,2017-04-09 09:54:35,">>120283715 first you ask about what he does for a living then you utterly destroy him with the following >you show them high bids of a young pretty girl auctioning off her used panties",,Anonymous,15338496_577209825803788_2591483507201015808_a.jpg,O+uTv0t8gGhQFDnHu/kHuA==,ES,,1491731675 120274698,120284498,2017-04-09 09:56:12,">>120284348 >well she had to run around and sweat in them all day, thats like, labor right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491731772 120274698,120284659,2017-04-09 09:57:45,">>120281025 and will meet the same fate, after",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491731865 120274698,120284798,2017-04-09 09:59:09,"""freedom"" is a senseless thought experiment until you have a homogenous white ethnostate surrounded by an iron wall and all brown intruders are shot without warning.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491731949 120274698,120284821,2017-04-09 09:59:23,">>120284498 Implying it's sweat and it's not that she just was wet",,Anonymous,would_tread.png,Wn3qPwZ1llzuwwvsIDp+HA==,ES,,1491731963 120274698,120284841,2017-04-09 09:59:34,">>120284206 shit Hoppe I know your wife translates your books, tell her to spell shit correctly",,Anonymous,Uncompromising.png,OAHDkrRctCEogi1tRFvE+Q==,US,,1491731974 120274698,120285040,2017-04-09 10:01:14,">>120284821 shit, I guess commies just got BTFO without even being here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491732074 120274698,120285107,2017-04-09 10:01:55,">>120283902 Well good luck for them. Sure is better than whatever fucked up Islamic shit they have in that region. Hopefully after the first years they realize they need glorious capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491732115 120274698,120285149,2017-04-09 10:02:21,">>120284798 Implying a white ethnostate would excluse all shitskins not making exceptions for temporal and restricted staying with high market value",,Anonymous,1490844848240.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,ES,,1491732141 120274698,120285793,2017-04-09 10:08:58,">>120285149 True, there were chocolate people and jews serving in hitlers regime.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491732538 120274698,120285884,2017-04-09 10:09:51,,,Anonymous,1491386423980.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1491732591 120274698,120286134,2017-04-09 10:12:14,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1491732734 120274698,120286569,2017-04-09 10:17:01,"See this is nice, a slow thread is a shill free thread. I think once you call them out they all leave.",,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1491733021 120274698,120286809,2017-04-09 10:19:39,Anyone got the article or video on why the use of force is necessary as the end point as it regulates all others?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491733179 120274698,120286851,2017-04-09 10:20:08,How would (((one))) even achieve egalitarianism and (compulsory) mutli-culturalism in a stateless society?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491733208 120274698,120287165,2017-04-09 10:23:47,">>120277963 Wait, has P2P internet already been invented? I was wondering why hasn't it already taken off.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491733427 120274698,120287171,2017-04-09 10:23:50,">>120286851 The communist utopia before boiling down to fantasy land is a democratic dictatorship of the proletariat. Imagine roving antifa mobs going around and stealing from those who they see as hording resources.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491733430 120274698,120287291,2017-04-09 10:25:05,,,Anonymous,1491385613511.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,AU,,1491733505 120274698,120287344,2017-04-09 10:25:45,">>120281025 at least Natsoc actually has worked to a degree before, but yes I do agree it's very statist and no better than communism in that sense",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491733545 120274698,120287435,2017-04-09 10:26:48,">>120279135 I hate these helicopter memes. The NAP applies only individually, not collectivelly. You just don't go around murdering people for their beliefs or for partaking into that superstitious ritual known as ""voting"".",,Anonymous,statism.jpg,nW43xdyGlRVliCvD3n+yuA==,ES,,1491733608 120274698,120287480,2017-04-09 10:27:24,">>120287171 So, antifa mobs roaming the land and physically removing anyone who exercises their right to refuse service on their private property? Sounds horrible.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491733644 120274698,120287665,2017-04-09 10:29:22,">>120274698 Hey, so I'm thinking of becoming a libertarian but I have a question. Do libertarians believe in government?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491733762 120274698,120287858,2017-04-09 10:31:25,">>120281025 Correct. Nazis are race communists. They unironically believe that socialism isn't that bad when it's white people that is being enslaved by it. They believe whites are insect people unable to act on their own without some commissar or bureaucrat micromanaging their lives. They even believe in such degenerate policies as welfare and nanny state bullshit as long as it's ""for whites only"". They really have a low view of whites for being racial supremacists. Probably a projection of their personal insecurities.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491733885 120274698,120287957,2017-04-09 10:32:37,">>120287665 some do. some don't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491733957 120274698,120288385,2017-04-09 10:37:01,">>120287858 >national socialists >socialists",,Anonymous,stockholm syndrome.jpg,2OklI1Q9rogNIJvlKnOWFQ==,DE,,1491734221 120274698,120288414,2017-04-09 10:37:20,">>120287435 >he thinks helicopter removal is a meme. you shouldn't tolerate communists in a society with the goal of protecting private property. they violently opposes private property because ""its fascism"" and would take any chance they get to kill you because you're a tyrant capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491734240 120274698,120289048,2017-04-09 10:44:04,">>120288414 please, spout less memes and research more what ""physical removal"" actually means. I understand that ever since 1965 you americans have forgotten what is the right to freedom of association because it's now pretty much illegal, but you have to understand that in a free society those people would probably be excluded and ostracised and would have to leave somewhere else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491734644 120274698,120289245,2017-04-09 10:45:56,">>120288414 Agree, since communists cannot comprehend individual rights nor humans rights either. They automatically violate the NAP since they wish to bring in a government that takes away power from individuals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491734756 120274698,120289251,2017-04-09 10:46:00,">>120287435 Yes, but since they will eventually violate the NAP (or hopefully be forced to become libertarian) - they do not respect your rights, so you do not have to respect yours. So when they come on to your property to bash the fash, throwing them out of a plane is pretty reasonable.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491734760 120274698,120289502,2017-04-09 10:48:40,">>120289245 >Hurting my feelings is an NAP violation >Your rights end where my feelings begin",,Anonymous,1491630347145.jpg,M00as75O3OFElUfifI62Zw==,US,,1491734920 120274698,120289664,2017-04-09 10:50:14,">>120279918 >what if the child consents tho",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1491735014 120274698,120289716,2017-04-09 10:50:41,">>120289502 >saying 'I will use force to overthrow capitalism and bash the fash (i.e. you)' isn't aggression",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491735041 120274698,120289800,2017-04-09 10:51:35,">>120289048 Yes, thats all fine and well. But when it comes to people who want to use force against me and my property (which if you truly believe in socialism you do want to overthrow the capitalist structure) then I'm am justified in using any means to protect myself. >>120289502 >1 post by this ID No. you tard. being a communist implies you are ideologically opposed to private property and see it as just to violently ""seize the means of production"" CADRE, Reddit, leftypol, and left-libertarians need to fuck off.",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1491735095 120274698,120290002,2017-04-09 10:53:21,">>120289800 >being a communist implies you are ideologically opposed to private property and see it as just to violently ""seize the means of production"" And how do you determine who is communist? Ancaps see all government as communist, so you'd basically have to physically remove almost everybody.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491735201 120274698,120290073,2017-04-09 10:53:53,">>120289502 threat is an aggression believing in a worker's revolution to overthrow capitalists is a threat",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491735233 120274698,120290297,2017-04-09 10:56:05,">>120289048 >be European, especially a Spaniard >understand what ""freedom of association"" means one of these things is not like the other, one of these things is not like the other...",,Anonymous,XaB4uMw.jpg,k3V+H32YpNZ1OqchriulpQ==,US,,1491735365 120274698,120290320,2017-04-09 10:56:20,">>120289251 >>120289245 >>120289716 >So when they come on to your property to bash the fash, throwing them out of a plane is pretty reasonable. No, it isn't. You can't murder anyone that trespasses and get away with it. No agency in its right mind would protect such a kind of hopeless idiot because nobody would subscribe to an agency that permits gratuitous violence go unpunished. Under a NAP-based judiciary system retaliatory or preemptive violence must be proportionate to the character of the threat. You could probably kill someone who trespasses if for example was an armed home invader at night, but not some idiot unarmed teenager commie holding a sign in your lawn on broad daylight. Stop being such a bunch of edgy kids. >>120289800 It's a matter of proportionality, don't misrepresent my point. An armed mob trying to take all your stuff is something you are allowed to shoot at when they come to your property, the average stupid commie college kid isn't until he does something that directly attacks your property. Punishment is to be applied in response to ACTIONS, not ideas.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491735380 120274698,120290381,2017-04-09 10:56:51,">>120290002 By catching in the act those that publicly express communist ideas. If they only express those ideas inside their private property (ironic, huh), its impossible to catch them.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1491735411 120274698,120290552,2017-04-09 10:58:31,">>120290320 >So when they come on to your property to bash the fash, throwing them out of a plane is pretty reasonable. >No, it isn't. Oh shit, you're right. I said plane, but I meant helicopters. Using a plane here is a waste of fuel and is inefficient; which is pretty unreasonable yeah. Sorry!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491735511 120274698,120290655,2017-04-09 10:59:37,">>120290552 You're an idiot.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491735577 120274698,120290687,2017-04-09 10:59:50,">>120290002 >how do you determine who is communist? Those who espouse communist propaganda and oppose private property. >Ancaps see all government as communist No, that is memes. >>120290320 >Punishment is to be applied in response to ACTIONS, not ideas. >coercion >the practice of persuading someone to do something by using FORCE or THREATS. If someone points a gun at me and says ""im gonna kill you"" they are threatening me. I don't have to wait for them to pull the trigger to respond with defensive force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491735590 120274698,120290726,2017-04-09 11:00:12,,,Anonymous,8709ab5987febdc2d8c7c9142332fa16f7f3c3d0f333dfffdb263c61a83a41f4_1.jpg,pEj1OO4IhI87NvFji0lH1g==,BR,,1491735612 120274698,120290884,2017-04-09 11:01:44,">>120290320 I am getting the idea that by the Flag and the arguments you attempted to make. You are the same teenage idiot who makes communist generals threads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491735704 120274698,120290922,2017-04-09 11:02:03,">>120290381 But ancaps see any form of government as ""communist"" so basically you can't have any political discussion at all without being removed. If we took the standards applied in these threads, then even many famous libertarians who wanted a limited state would be removed for wanting a limited state. >>120290687 >Those who espouse communist propaganda The problem here is that you guys tend to see anything except absolute statelessness as ""communism."" By this standard, almost any successful capitalist society would be considered communist, simply for having a state.",,Anonymous,s4dTtBy.jpg,rvHGDaxbyOUhhuLyq76EiQ==,US,,1491735723 120274698,120290941,2017-04-09 11:02:11,Is it HOP or HOP PAH?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491735731 120274698,120291004,2017-04-09 11:02:49,">>120290320 >No, it isn't. Yes it is. The private covenant sets the following law: ""People caught publicly expressing communist ideas will be physically removed from the covenant"". Of course, everyone would have the right to a trial, or not, depending on the covenant. If you don't like it, you're free to go to another place, or start your own community.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1491735769 120274698,120291005,2017-04-09 11:02:49,">>120289502 In a society in which everything is private, the question of who gets to say what where is a strictly private matter. In so far as the people who allow commies on their property want them to expressed these views they're at liberty to do so. (I'm not an ancap but a minarchist.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491735769 120274698,120291191,2017-04-09 11:04:38,">>120290655 wtf i hate self-defense now In seriousness then: When I say communists I'm not talking about someone who thought 'huh, this is sorta neat' about communism once, I'm talking about TERRORISTS who want to actively destroy property and lives to create chaos. If someone threatens to 'bash the fash' you're justified in doing whatever it takes to secure your state of being unbashed. As such, I don't see the death penalty being out of the question considering they want to kill those who own the means of production. >helicopter in captcha",,Anonymous,Capture.png,f1Gf4Mp2MZS90UhHyYSsCw==,GB,,1491735878 120274698,120291367,2017-04-09 11:06:16,">>120290726 thanks for illistrating brazilfag. When some commies oppression is synonymous with my property they better get used to the taste of my boot. >>120290922 >The problem here is that you guys tend to see anything except absolute statelessness as ""communism."" By this standard, almost any successful capitalist society would be considered communist, simply for having a state. I wouldn't call all states communist ideologically, but they do have to implement socialist policy to have a state, thats kinda a meme, but yes we want a true propertarian society. without a state whats your problem >>120290941 Hop-pah",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491735976 120274698,120291368,2017-04-09 11:06:16,">>120283143 Libertarian Left",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491735976 120274698,120291608,2017-04-09 11:08:54,>>>/lgbt/8074399,,Anonymous,08db2f04e3d0c1e72af28f0eb0a4798af450fa1408c1d50247383b791f3d378e_1.jpg,lGUfi9AOa0RWno+KO9iSjw==,BR,,1491736134 120274698,120291965,2017-04-09 11:12:44,">>120290922 You're confusing government with the natural order of ancap societies. I understand, since the terms are pretty ambiguous, but can be precise when the context is properly defined. In short: Communist ultra-authoritarian state = you can't leave Private covenants = voluntary contract. If you agree to abide to these covenant laws (like no public expression of communist ideas) you can sign the contract and stay. If you don't, you're free to go elsewhere.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1491736364 120274698,120292765,2017-04-09 11:20:25,bumping for liberty,,Anonymous,1491674902426.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,GB,,1491736825 120274698,120292789,2017-04-09 11:20:42,">>120291005 >In a society in which everything is private AKA literally feudalism >>120291965 >If you don't, you're free to go elsewhere. How is that any different than modern governments where anybody can leave if they want to?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491736842 120274698,120293075,2017-04-09 11:23:21,">>120274698 Just wanted to post some david d friedman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuYt6X2g0cY",,Anonymous,quote-why-don-t-we-have-libertarian-anarchy-why-does-government-exist-the-answer-implicit-david-d-friedman-94-54-63[1].jpg,EmMG+V8shFtIGwaeDpDy2g==,US,,1491737001 120274698,120293338,2017-04-09 11:25:46,>>120292789,,Anonymous,8a357a63c4a78040396ac4776ed9427f6da111c052d5cd89e110f3941216c47d_1.jpg,cOVEgR1MI0Ye1M/Jt4HG0Q==,BR,,1491737146 120274698,120294526,2017-04-09 11:36:00,">>120293075 some more friedman https://youtu.be/IcxGXcmr4ig",,Anonymous,220px-Danny_DeVito_cropped_and_edited_for_brightness[1].jpg,y0zwtUZWhTXkiVoHKvdwtw==,US,,1491737760 120274698,120294898,2017-04-09 11:39:08,bump for liberty,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1490798852008.jpg,6RMsZN7g73IIZAC2jZMRcA==,DE,,1491737948 120274698,120294929,2017-04-09 11:39:22,"I'm a libertarian, yet not ancap. Can you guys redpill me on the following: How will firefighting work? If the fire is a danger to surrounding peoples property, or health, but the owner of the burning building refuse to pay for ""fire insurance"" then what? If the ancap nation gets invaded and the private defense contractors start fighting back, will the companies cooperate with intelligence, a very important dimension in modern warfare? Wouldn't companies try to inflict as much damage alone, without sharing intelligence so they can get customers in the future, or from countries where the company operates?",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1491737962 120274698,120295359,2017-04-09 11:42:52,">>120292789 >AKA literally feudalism Pretty sure feudalism has quite a few more bullet points on its definition than just private property, many of which have nothing to do with anarcho capitalism. >How is that any different than modern governments where anybody can leave if they want to? Because governments won't offer you a contract when you purchase land in their property, so what happens if I move somewhere else and 2 years later they change all the rules? States have no accountability.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491738172 120274698,120295442,2017-04-09 11:43:34,There is a lack of Hayek in these threads. Why?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491738214 120274698,120295521,2017-04-09 11:44:13,">>120290002 > ideologically opposed to private property Yes actually it does. >Ancaps see all government as communis No actually communism/marxism in itself is anarcho communism and simply uses socialist regimes to achieve its own abolishment. Talking about stupid you are an idiot, too. >who is communist? Everyone who rejects property rights and wishes to abolish the state. We call it anarcho-communism but it is communism in its original form. >so you'd basically have to physically remove almost everybody Yeah thats kind of the implication here and ancaps are essentially saying they dont want to live with retards yet ommit the small details like most people being retarded.",,Anonymous,reee.jpg,W9Xg2Nkecqi6aySnZ47Z4Q==,DE,,1491738253 120274698,120295580,2017-04-09 11:44:38,">>120294929 Probably preemptive action against the uninsured building for causing a hazard before fire can even start.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491738278 120274698,120295622,2017-04-09 11:45:01,">>120295359 RARE FLAG",,Anonymous,9f55f7463d2e2be0faa296886d2b1459dc868e1c55202947efc86ea8603dc622_1.jpg,ACHSYkWNfIxU1jWwGRaunw==,BR,,1491738301 120274698,120295724,2017-04-09 11:45:49,">>120289048 Diego is right",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491738349 120274698,120295887,2017-04-09 11:47:06,,,Anonymous,47606fc4521f1b00da1537043bfedd6863019f3c0bf063c40790852dd4ead231_1.jpg,WHutw/7ZtxE7uCG0kMD5ow==,BR,,1491738426 120274698,120295987,2017-04-09 11:47:56,">>120294929 >>120295580 Oh, and the PMCs that collaborate would be more effective than those that don't, so there's a financial incentive to do so.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491738476 120274698,120296084,2017-04-09 11:48:39,">>120295442 We're kinda slow to update our pastes. Personally Rothbard and Hoppe are my favourites so I make content mostly including them. If you have some content to add please do!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491738519 120274698,120296204,2017-04-09 11:49:34,">>120294929 >How will firefighting work? If the fire is a danger to surrounding peoples property, or health, but the owner of the burning building refuse to pay for ""fire insurance"" then what? This essentially is you getting stuck on the issue of public goods. I don't want to get into every single argument, but Tom Woods did a great podcast on this recently that you should listen to and think through: http://tomwoods.com/ep-864-the-bogus-public-goods-rationale-for-government/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491738574 120274698,120296282,2017-04-09 11:50:15,">>120296084 I will when I have the time he's my favourite Classical Liberal.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491738615 120274698,120296368,2017-04-09 11:50:58,">>120294929 There are multiple ways. If we picture a soft transition, in which cities become private, and the public areas become property of the residents of said areas, with stocks, etc, then firefighters will need to be hired in a subscription model for neighborhoods, whoever doesn't pay will not be protected. Now, if the fire starts in someone's house that is not protected, neighbors can still call the firefighters, and firefighters will contain the fire, but then neighbors can legally sue this irresponsible neighbor for externalities or potential externalities of his irresponsibility. Would companies try to inflict damage alone to look better? Not sure if it's such a great strategy, this would be more expensive than collaboration, which would increase running costs, and therefore, once the invasion was over, they would have to charge more for basic protection under peaceful times.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491738658 120274698,120296385,2017-04-09 11:51:06,Privatize Oceans so they can be fixed. States clearly dont care.,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491738666 120274698,120296400,2017-04-09 11:51:11,">>120294929 if the fire is a threat to the property (including health and so on) of the surrounding people they are able to: 1. call firefighters on their own (since their property is in danger) and 2. later sue the owner for damaging their property (even if the fire was not intentional) also, they are able to make him pay for the firefighters in case of a war, companies and people would share intelligence, because it is in their interest to end the war as quickly as possible to go on with normal business",,Anonymous,1491234804636.png,1wPaBRZcBLAdtLRnqap+ng==,DE,,1491738671 120274698,120296451,2017-04-09 11:51:37,>>120279714,,Anonymous,1489423830725.jpg,zhHjn2yCWROcXgs1Ql+t8w==,US,,1491738697 120274698,120296517,2017-04-09 11:52:15,">>120287435 >people >commies make up your mind",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491738735 120274698,120296557,2017-04-09 11:52:38,">>120292789 >feudalism No Feudalisms property rights do not extend to peasantry i.e. If you have a mill on a lords land and want to move away you can only ""sell"" the mill at a rate defined by its owner which was usually nothing. Not to be confused with serfdom in which the the peasantry born on a lords land would be considered the ""fruits"" of that land and belong to its owner. >different than modern governments Well for one you never recieve a chance to sign that contract but your birth and registration is it so the terms are forced upon you and any attempt to leave the country will be taxed to high hell so its earily reminicant of feudalism. You would know if you had anything of value be it only a functioning brain.",,Anonymous,into the oven with you.jpg,lUGrbgJ8bjK280aZxUpycA==,DE,,1491738758 120274698,120296724,2017-04-09 11:54:04,">>120295724 Samefag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491738844 120274698,120296832,2017-04-09 11:54:55,">>120287435 kek I just saw your post now.",,Anonymous,saga spanish commie.gif,0DAYjNKg8FVcMmI8cOuocw==,BR,,1491738895 120274698,120297249,2017-04-09 11:58:32,">>120296368 Got to clarify that what I would mean by hard transition is one where private villages begin spurring out of any land that is cheap and they become the places to go and settle into depending on your law preferences, and these villages would most likely already include fire-fighting services in the contract.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491739112 120274698,120297583,2017-04-09 12:01:05,Is this good or is it useless?,,Anonymous,factor of production allocation.png,VsqB1P0nad3PtmX9drovVA==,CA,,1491739265 120274698,120297919,2017-04-09 12:03:58,"I think harmful government policies like welfare and AA should be removed, but subsidized education, healthcare, and mental health care should be kept.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491739438 120274698,120298336,2017-04-09 12:07:39,">>120297919 Government education is pure shit and arguably worse than just leaving it to parents.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491739659 120274698,120298349,2017-04-09 12:07:46,">>120297919 Your post made me REEEEE internally.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491739666 120274698,120298377,2017-04-09 12:07:58,">>120297583 It's just a demonstration of marginalism. Shows easily why Marxists are wrong.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491739678 120274698,120298593,2017-04-09 12:09:42,">>120296557 >No Feudalisms property rights do not extend to peasantry That's because peasants live on land which is owned by somebody else, so they have to follow whatever rules that guy decides to implement. I honestly don't see any difference between that and how ancap is supposed to function.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491739782 120274698,120298720,2017-04-09 12:10:34,">>120298377 >Shows easily why Marxists are wrong. Sort of the point. There's a couple of key economic concepts that are relatively easy to understand yet I seldom see them deployed during debates in spite of the fact that they impose very solid constraints on the range of what's possible. They should always be used. Economics -- and especially basic economics -- is supposed to give us solid tools of analysis to explain the world. That these are then either not used or not mastered kinda sucks.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491739834 120274698,120299301,2017-04-09 12:15:48,">>120297919 > but subsidized education Why? It doesn't work(picrelated), so why would you throw away money just for virtue signaling?",,Anonymous,1468081239352.jpg,vfUOTFh3a/jFOjyPEFrsKQ==,US,,1491740148 120274698,120299788,2017-04-09 12:20:02,">>120296400 So what happens if the fire victim can't pay? Chances are if they're not paying their fire subscription they don't have money to pay out in a suit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491740402 120274698,120300134,2017-04-09 12:23:03,"new /lrg/ Telegram Group, active members, content creators, etc http://t.me/libertarianrg Telegram itself is private, secure app: http://telegram.org",,Anonymous,1483393653743.jpg,2BBfADrCWcR2z5KXeuCfxA==,US,,1491740583 120274698,120300266,2017-04-09 12:24:11,">>120300134 Please no - this splits threads and kills them. Discussion should be here imo.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491740651 120274698,120300524,2017-04-09 12:26:28,">>120300266 or promotes them... this thread should be for attracting people into the general ideology",,Anonymous,Cgqg2FcxGbKABStIAAEPYjBWABs658.jpg,ubdhPYc7gy884z10/mkdvA==,US,,1491740788 120274698,120300727,2017-04-09 12:28:24,">physical removal >peace Why do propertarians pretend to leave everyone alone when they talk about killing left wingers and they steal resources from everyone else?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491740904 120274698,120301034,2017-04-09 12:30:46,">>120300524 Promotion amongst those who are already part of the thread isn't promotion - it is vindication. Discussion here will promote our ideas across the whole board, website, and beyond. A closed chat does the opposite. A perfect example of a general that went to shirt due to telegram/discord is /bet/ on /sp/. It is a case study of what would come if we all abandoned the thread for Telegram. Not all, but some, and over time, more and more, until no discussion occurred here, and all there. Of course this is just my opinion - welcome for others to voice theirs.",,Anonymous,1491702885831.jpg,NFjW526h7GH6TbPQ+5/SfA==,GB,,1491741046 120274698,120301054,2017-04-09 12:30:55,,,Anonymous,C.jpg,NOz3my0RjlB6U20v5+kK1w==,BR,,1491741055 120274698,120301079,2017-04-09 12:31:07,">>120299788 They become an indentured servant until their debt is paid.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491741067 120274698,120301095,2017-04-09 12:31:16,">>120301054 Sad!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491741076 120274698,120301454,2017-04-09 12:34:22,">>120287165 Yes. Its pretty neat",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1491741262 120274698,120301539,2017-04-09 12:35:14,">>120301054 Tricky",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491741314 120274698,120301622,2017-04-09 12:36:09,"Question to ancaps about roads. Wouldn't the tolls, no matter how cheap they are, incentivize businesses and consumers to use them as little as possible and therefore heavily decrease economic activity? Also, can someone explain to me what stops the local McWarlord or neighboring state to conquer the territory without relying on the commie fallacy that everyone will collectively turn on him? I always get the response of it being not profitable, but it's bullshit, as he can live off the resources he conquered without giving a fuck about your NAP (like literally every war in the history of mankind).",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491741369 120274698,120301743,2017-04-09 12:37:19,">>120278642 peter7@protonmail.com btw, thanks for your links in OP, nice books",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1491741439 120274698,120301763,2017-04-09 12:37:29,">>120284821 what's with the triangle bangs would be hot otherwise",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491741449 120274698,120301806,2017-04-09 12:37:51,">>120301054 cunt",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491741471 120274698,120302114,2017-04-09 12:40:42,">>120301743 Saved",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491741642 120274698,120302211,2017-04-09 12:41:36,">>120279884 Erry time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491741696 120274698,120302225,2017-04-09 12:41:45,">>120301743 what did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,Capture.png,2C3Y4SUd9D9fpoW5vKr3iw==,GB,,1491741705 120274698,120302327,2017-04-09 12:42:45,Why do they use snakes for the Hoppe/Pinochet/AnCap memes?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491741765 120274698,120302418,2017-04-09 12:43:37,">>120302225 Why cap? I'll email him if we ever want to set up a zeronet domain",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491741817 120274698,120302464,2017-04-09 12:44:01,">>120295442 Hoppe doesn't like him.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491741841 120274698,120302586,2017-04-09 12:44:57,">>120302327 It's a rattle snake, which is naturally not aggressive if not provoked. It's a symbol for the NAP and self-defense.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491741897 120274698,120302614,2017-04-09 12:45:16,">>120302327 Hoppean snake memes, and the Gadsden Flag are related to Right-Libertarianism",,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1491741916 120274698,120303032,2017-04-09 12:49:17,">tfw no Libertarian bf to cuddle me at night What's a girl (male) to do these days?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491742157 120274698,120303179,2017-04-09 12:50:33,">>120285149 Maybe focus on actual assimilating others into your ethnostate on the bias of pure skill. I can never understand why people would want this as it just means you have to work with a restricted population and may go the way of Japan in the long run.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491742233 120274698,120303228,2017-04-09 12:50:54,">>120302327 Snakes were a common symbol in the American Revolutionary war, Including the Gadsden flag and this comic by Benjamin Franklin. Because Rattlesnakes are territorial but usually not aggressive.",,Anonymous,Join or Die.jpg,s/Uyoergk8xGc1MCwwEHMg==,US,,1491742254 120274698,120303446,2017-04-09 12:53:02,">>120281025 >believe in private property and free-enterprise >believe society should be ruled by the strongest and most determined, not off the basis of wealth and lobbying >believe in pride and value of your family, people and nation >fuggen gommies :DDD",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491742382 120274698,120303494,2017-04-09 12:53:29,Please don't associate libertarians with retarded anarcho-capitalists,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491742409 120274698,120303610,2017-04-09 12:54:25,">>120303494 >3494Please don't associate libertarians with retarded anarcho-capitalis >t. Gary Johnson",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491742465 120274698,120303651,2017-04-09 12:54:44,">>120303494 1Post. by this ID.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491742484 120274698,120303668,2017-04-09 12:54:54,">>120303494 >being ideologically consistent >called retards",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491742494 120274698,120303693,2017-04-09 12:55:07,">>120301622 >Wouldn't the tolls, no matter how cheap they are, incentivize businesses and consumers to use them as little as possible and therefore heavily decrease economic activity? This is under the belief that the actual cost of roads in taxes is inferior to the amount you would pay in tolls, which is not a certainty. Now, what would happen is hard to predict and will go through different stages, perhaps at first roads will have tolls, perhaps later you will be able to get a subscription pass on the roads you use frequently, perhaps these passes will be given to you when you purchase property in a suburb covenant, perhaps car companies will sponsor free roads for you to use their cars in, perhaps car insurances will come with free passes in their roads, the market can go multiple ways, and it will eventually find the best method to supply these roads at market value. There's absolutely no durable examples of the free market in which the prices go up, decreasing the consumption of a good. >Also, can someone explain to me what stops the local McWarlord or neighboring state to conquer the territory without relying on the commie fallacy that everyone will collectively turn on him? We need to understand the incentives for war. War is not something you engage in when there are better alternatives, lefties literally argue that welfare is what keeps undesirables in check from not killing us and taking our stuff, which up to a point might be right, if it wasn't because their programs is what keeps them in poverty. It is, therefore, predictable that in a highly capitalized society, the risks will be far superior to the rewards of engaging war on other factions. A warlord that, as you say, pillages and destroys productive areas, would not be able to attract many people to his side when getting a job and making a safe and prosperous life is easier.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491742507 120274698,120303711,2017-04-09 12:55:19,">>120303446 >free enterprise You mean state controlled businesses and tons of social welfare",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491742519 120274698,120303862,2017-04-09 12:56:40,">>120303668 Anarcho capitalists are morons Just because libertarianism calls for limited government intervention in the economy does not mean the government should do absolutely nothing You don't need to polarize everything to two extremes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491742600 120274698,120303920,2017-04-09 12:57:04,">>120301763 forgot her name, but she's hot as fuck nontheless she cams and just taunt/sell panties too bad she didn't embraced her free market potential",,Anonymous,99c95bb590730a03996fc03682af05ac.jpg,8DJJNYVjl5x2Nf6xiALfjQ==,ES,,1491742624 120274698,120304056,2017-04-09 12:58:05,>tfw ideologically opposed to the idea of the state but maintain it is a necessary solution to some issues,,Anonymous,1404154593120.jpg,q0whUKbq5/XO9PYF8X/aVg==,GB,,1491742685 120274698,120304143,2017-04-09 12:58:54,">>120303446 >believe in private property and free-enterprise except if the state throw a buzzword at you and you get jailed for this >believe society should be ruled by the strongest and most determined, not off the basis of wealth and lobbying why wealth doesn't count ? need violence to promote your ideas brainlet ? >believe in pride and value of your family, people and nation not necessarily a natsoc thing,19 century centrist would be called far right as fuck today",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491742734 120274698,120304212,2017-04-09 12:59:27,">>120303693 >This is under the belief that the actual cost of roads in taxes is inferior to the amount you would pay in tolls, which is not a certainty. For a company that is constantly moving things and employees around, the answer is that constantly paying tolls would certainly be more expensive, without question. Otherwise, companies in real life would just build their own roads instead of relying on the government to do it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491742767 120274698,120304277,2017-04-09 12:59:56,">>120301622 >Also, can someone explain to me what stops the local McWarlord or neighboring state to conquer the territory without relying on the commie fallacy that everyone will collectively turn on him? Well, what exactly prevents modern nations from doing so?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1491742796 120274698,120304307,2017-04-09 13:00:16,">>120304056 Then you're probably a sensible libertarian, and not an anarcho-capitalist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491742816 120274698,120304330,2017-04-09 13:00:25,,,Anonymous,1488130686756.jpg,3ePHAOE0Nad7iFxfucz8nA==,BR,,1491742825 120274698,120304333,2017-04-09 13:00:28,">>120303711 It was necessary at the time if you knew what was going on prior, what with the massive left-wing protests, and labor-strikes.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491742828 120274698,120304481,2017-04-09 13:01:41,">>120303862 Nice middle ground fallacy, are you going to bring any argument or just insults? If not sit back and might learn a thing or two about your ideology without the statist scaremongering influencing you.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491742901 120274698,120304542,2017-04-09 13:02:02,>>120277762,,Anonymous,ancap_gaschambers.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1491742922 120274698,120304553,2017-04-09 13:02:07,">>120304212 >Otherwise, companies in real life would just build their own roads instead of relying on the government to do it. but the government roads are in the most efficient locations",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491742927 120274698,120304620,2017-04-09 13:02:47,">>120274698 fuck commies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491742967 120274698,120304690,2017-04-09 13:03:26,">>120303862 >You don't need to polarize everything to two extremes so,it's okay to be a hypocrite ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491743006 120274698,120305013,2017-04-09 13:06:05,"What are /lrg/'s thoughts on Stirner? I know very little about him, I got his book to read for myself because he's mentioned a lot on 4chan as the proponent of some sort of wildcard philosophy that doesn't really jive with any others",,Anonymous,politicalballs.png,LBYA0MaGXBoEV4gb8VlsRA==,US,,1491743165 120274698,120305437,2017-04-09 13:09:27,">>120305013 pls respond I know someone on here is well-read enough to respond",,Anonymous,543532453.jpg,yN+3KKpX8/4c96NRY416gQ==,US,,1491743367 120274698,120305477,2017-04-09 13:09:50,"discord.gg/ESFkW5k This is our liberty politics discord server, it's already active with members The only rule is ""moderate yourself"" meaning, mods wont ban dissidents or someone annoying you, just block the person or ignore them",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491743390 120274698,120305514,2017-04-09 13:10:06,">>120303693 >This is under the belief that the actual cost of roads in taxes is inferior to the amount you would pay in tolls, which is not a certainty. Like >>120304212 said, it's not about how cheap they are, but what the use-to-cost relation is. The roads could cost 10 times less than under taxation, the cost of using them would still be higher the more you use them. >the risks will be far superior to the rewards of engaging war on other factions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_economicus Imagine a lot of small privatized territories with no organized military next to Nazi Germany. It would be every psychotic dictators wet dream and actually highly profitable for them, since no private security organization will have the means to start a counter invasion. >>120304277 Territorial borders. See above example. It's much easier to take on a bunch of small microstates than a large nation.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491743406 120274698,120305650,2017-04-09 13:11:10,">>120304212 >For a company that is constantly moving things and employees around, the answer is that constantly paying tolls would certainly be more expensive, without question See, it's impossible for you to have any evidence about this, and impossible for me to demonstrate it true, because with the state the costs of roads could be severely inflated, because you're assuming the current pricing of tolls into your hypothesis, etc. In short, we will never know unless we try. Basically, what I provided are multiple ways to privatize roads and make them a business people will want to engage into, now, if you want me to explain why the free market leads to lower costs (or lower externalities of people who don't use those services at all), then that's a whole new debate.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491743470 120274698,120305805,2017-04-09 13:12:26,">>120305013 Stirner is loved by a lot of statists, so I can't see it being very positive. Also if he did say that nationalism is a spook, it's probably not positive from that view point as well since most of us here are right wing libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491743546 120274698,120305859,2017-04-09 13:12:54,">>120305805 He is pretty much the opposite of Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491743574 120274698,120305912,2017-04-09 13:13:20,">>120305013 #blackmarketsmatter kek >>120305477 >1 post etc Please see >>120301034 anon.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491743600 120274698,120306007,2017-04-09 13:14:08,">>120305912 No im here, didnt know people still made these generals, thought they died after the trump shils invaded /pol/",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491743648 120274698,120306074,2017-04-09 13:14:37,">>120304481 I did present an argument Why do you think the government is never necessary to solve problems? Do you seriously think that corporations will always be there to fix issues? The government can't just sit around and do nothing, and even then, it would be impossible for a country to gain proper world influence if it was anarcho capitalist and not libertarian. The lack of defense mechanism in an anarcho capitalist society is too big to overlook as well. >>120305013 He's delusional.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491743677 120274698,120306224,2017-04-09 13:15:51,">>120306007 Good to hear 007. We're holding firm, I expect the raiding from all sides to die down soon.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491743751 120274698,120306278,2017-04-09 13:16:15,">when the say ""roads"" as if it's an argument",,Anonymous,ancapism works.png,X6uEf4hDYbaeMJrM4Xniew==,RU,,1491743775 120274698,120306436,2017-04-09 13:17:34,">>120306074 Im having a hard time believing you're a libertarian with that argumentative line. Seems like a divide and conquer post.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491743854 120274698,120306690,2017-04-09 13:19:39,>>120306278,,Anonymous,1491428093217.jpg,lbhaGVC+7+9OqzaY1jYGyA==,GB,,1491743979 120274698,120306928,2017-04-09 13:21:49,,,Anonymous,compass cat.jpg,IwWiD5pUKl7KVXZ60ovv/w==,BR,,1491744109 120274698,120306931,2017-04-09 13:21:51,">>120306436 im libertarian and believe in central banks and thata there should be some, but limited welfare. Being a libertarian isnt about business>government, its about admitting that business usually does good but there are legitimate problems governments can fix- ie texas railroad company regulating production",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491744111 120274698,120306954,2017-04-09 13:22:02,">>120306224 I'll be active in the ones i see, i hope it gets posted as much as natsoc or syria general",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491744122 120274698,120306966,2017-04-09 13:22:12,">>120305805 >>120306074 thanks for the answers >>120306436 He's a minarchist Calling him a shill is violating his NAP, pls refrain",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491744132 120274698,120306986,2017-04-09 13:22:21,">>120306931 production of oil****",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491744141 120274698,120307196,2017-04-09 13:24:06,">>120306007 >>120306224 I love seeing other generals on /pol/, even /leftypol/ anything but the endless /PTG/ - MAGA EDITION, THREAD 257 it's board-destroying I come to /pol/ for political discussion, not overwhelming trump shilling",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491744246 120274698,120307199,2017-04-09 13:24:08,">>120305650 >if you want me to explain why the free market leads to lower costs Roadways are NOT a free market. They literally can't be. Geography prevents that from happening. >>120304553 >but the government roads are in the most efficient locations And that's not some grand coincidence. It was intentionally planned out that way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491744248 120274698,120307317,2017-04-09 13:25:09,">>120305514 The amount of resources allocated in defense for private societies would vary depending on the threat perceived. A neighborhood might be defended by a policeman with a stick while another might need a tank and an atomic bomb, it always depend on the threat and the market will allocate resources properly.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491744309 120274698,120307423,2017-04-09 13:25:54,if I tell someone I'm going to murder them tomorrow in ancapistan can they shoot me for breaking the nap?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491744354 120274698,120307449,2017-04-09 13:26:07,">>120301622 Roads are overproduced. Too many roads means less incentive for people to bunch up tightly in cities. This increases the average distance that goods must travel to reach consumers. It also means massive urban sprawl instead of a super high density core. This means less commuting and time wasted in every domain. Now you might not like density, but higher density in the city means preserving the countryside instead of a million cookie-cutter houses. It also means larger tracts of land in the countryside, which means it's less trouble to build long distance highways because you won't have to route around every little holdout. As for McWarlord: insurance companies. If someone builds up aggressive weaponry, invasion insurance premiums will increase from $0.30 / year to $50/year. When he invades, he violates NAP so the insurance companies extract appropriate damages from him. I wrote a bit more here >>120303351",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491744367 120274698,120307516,2017-04-09 13:26:46,">>120307196 Amen to that mate",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491744406 120274698,120307525,2017-04-09 13:26:50,">>120307317 >it always depend on the threat and the market will allocate resources properly thats one grand assumption. Unfortunately national defense suffers from a free rider problem",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491744410 120274698,120307766,2017-04-09 13:28:53,">>120307196 True dat. But I also hate natsoc general, because one retard from there actually posted links on communist sources that tried hard to explain why ""natsoc is actually capitalism stupid right wingers don't understand reeee""",,Anonymous,1491104743367.png,+jC2Aa3IUqm9uIySOc9SSA==,US,,1491744533 120274698,120307890,2017-04-09 13:29:50,">>120307199 Geography might be limited but transportation of goods and services are not restricted to roads. You might have the natural monopoly on petrol for a specific area, but if you abuse your situation enough you might find out vapor cars become more cost-efficient and you will lose your market. You might find out that this practice leads to more people using planes or aerotubes or whatever the fuck people with their genius ideas come with in order to screw abusive toll companies. Perhaps instead of this we would go for total vertical construction and private cities will have pretty much everything they need without you ever needing to use your car. Who knows.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491744590 120274698,120308183,2017-04-09 13:32:14,">>120307890 >You might have the natural monopoly on petrol for a specific area, but if you abuse your situation enough theres literally a whole branch of game theory about how a monopoly does this.Do you honestly want to pay 50% more for the roads just to call them private?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491744734 120274698,120308185,2017-04-09 13:32:16,"https://discord.me/libertypolitics Shilling this server. Come in for bants.",,Anonymous,eJwFwVEOwiAMANC7cAA6SlbaJcazjHYoRgcZ80fj3X3v697H0y3ufp59LABqu7c6tB229u61vaBq2wfgjEIyB4kkyJJQgIwnplSyTBGFtUgiDKZbLjkSkn_023XUz3YJyO73Bw3OICo.vOEPY_uFDZdjMVgqkRonR8Ix_Jg.jpg,tw+GEDoLLLvcbAQ3tv+Lbw==,US,,1491744736 120274698,120308481,2017-04-09 13:34:49,"I've been thinking about something. I watched a Tucker Carlson video about automation, and he was talking about how many Americans would lose their jobs if freight trucks could drive themselves. With more and more automation, and robots occupying jobs, will people just start to starve? I get that supply will increase as robots are more efficient, but if nobody has jobs/any special skill to give their time value, what'll happen?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491744889 120274698,120308575,2017-04-09 13:35:41,">>120308185 Must I post again? We need more than 'come' to this server. Where do you come from? Who else is there? Why should the thread split? >>120301034 This is the third IRC-style place posted ITT alone. This general would die if we split into four.",,Anonymous,1398766448488.jpg,MFm8z2rYtUOLLS8Q9TZbLQ==,GB,,1491744941 120274698,120308634,2017-04-09 13:36:13,">>120308481 no, we replaced most of our jobs from 1900, ofc most of today's jobs will be replaced by 2100",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491744973 120274698,120308722,2017-04-09 13:36:51,">>120307525 >free rider problem Under the state this is for certain, there are people who obtain security without paying shit, in exchange, people who pay a lot are frequently mugged, robbed and assaulted. Under private covenants where everyone must pay for their insurance this is not such a certainty. >>120308183 >Do you honestly want to pay 50% more for the roads just to call them private? I don't believe this would be true and people are yet to demonstrate this. Again, land might be scarce but markets are leaded by efficiency, if one method of transportation, due to scarcity abuses, ends up being inefficient, then it will stop being used.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491745011 120274698,120308786,2017-04-09 13:37:27,">>120308575 >being so cucked you quote niggers jesus christ, do you speak english or only arabic at this point?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745047 120274698,120308861,2017-04-09 13:38:05,">>120308634 But it's not the same as industrialization exactly, if robots can do average Joe odd jobs better, cheaper, and faster, what can they even be replaced with?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745085 120274698,120308886,2017-04-09 13:38:17,">>120307317 >>120307449 >be in Ancapistan >live on border to Nazi Germany >insurance goes up from 5% to 30% (arbitrary value, could be lower but the point is the relative increase) of my income to finance the defense >mass migration from border to safer parts of Ancapistan >properties on border are so costly that they get abandoned, lose all their value and are no longer covered by insurance >Nazi Germany annexes the NoMans Land without technically violating anyone's NAP >repeat",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491745097 120274698,120308958,2017-04-09 13:38:52,>tfw my wife started looking into libertarianism beause 'the snek jokes are lulz',,Anonymous,1467397247795.jpg,FLftdj5iTIf3q4taKzrxsg==,GB,,1491745132 120274698,120309001,2017-04-09 13:39:08,">>120308481 Gorillions of jobs were lost since the very first automation(Great Industrial Revolution) happened. Workers of those times were destroying machine tools because ""robots occupying jobs"". From 1960's industry has been automating even more jobs and nothing happened. The market will change and people will change their behavior, that's about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745148 120274698,120309049,2017-04-09 13:39:39,">>120308786 >1 post ahh yes. /nupol/ once again confirming itself of being unable to distinguish between a black man and a nigger. Fuck off back to donald subreddit you idiot.",,Anonymous,1398766206662.jpg,RPGMNiJb9KLowx3QdH8Z1Q==,GB,,1491745179 120274698,120309062,2017-04-09 13:39:43,">>120308575 This is an older server, from october last year, we have active members from old lrg threads here, we have no reason to split up",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491745183 120274698,120309106,2017-04-09 13:40:05,">>120308722 >I don't believe this would be true and people are yet to demonstrate this. Because if it were profitable for companies to build roads without government direction and funding, they would already be doing it. You understand? If fully privatized roads were a practical concept, they would already exist and they would be the norm.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745205 120274698,120309107,2017-04-09 13:40:05,">>120307525 Realize that property titles can have stipulations. Two property owners might agree to the following: >We both agree not to sell either of our properties to a felon. >We both agree not to freeload. >We both pay each other a $5k deposit. (net $0) >If one of us violates either part, then that's tantamount to theft of the other's deposit, and it must be returned to him. This actually creates value because it gives each other peace of mind and no money is lost. When one neighbor eventually sells, he must either pay the deposit or find someone who will agree to the stipulations. What's so hard about this?",,Anonymous,1482094507350.jpg,YIcFy+1ZAA7YxL1go93GLw==,US,,1491745205 120274698,120309146,2017-04-09 13:40:24,">>120303179 >go the way of japan You mean proving the infinite growth meme wrong? Yes the horror. >>120303610 It's entirely plausible that Gary Johnson being a retard spouting watered down meme-tier libertarianism is what causes that shitty party to grow and become a permanent third force in American politics. The average person is retarded, so you have to give them something equally retarded to work with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745224 120274698,120309216,2017-04-09 13:40:59,">>120309062 Cheers, thats fine then",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491745259 120274698,120309274,2017-04-09 13:41:28,">>120308886 the free market will just make atlantis",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491745288 120274698,120309284,2017-04-09 13:41:32,">>120304542 Saved",,Anonymous,benito mussolini the fascist defended that race is a social construct.jpg,d/KPCVEV5Jo7dlHyWyI9Xw==,BR,,1491745292 120274698,120309345,2017-04-09 13:42:01,">>120309049 Ok Jamaicoon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745321 120274698,120309378,2017-04-09 13:42:22,">>120303494 >dood weed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745342 120274698,120309393,2017-04-09 13:42:28,">>120309049 >not all black men are niggers my wifes bull said so you're pathetic, cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745348 120274698,120309435,2017-04-09 13:42:49,">>120303179 >may go the way of Japan in the long run. Nothing wrong with Japan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745369 120274698,120309576,2017-04-09 13:43:58,">>120308185 https://discordapp.com/privacy educate yourselves",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1491745438 120274698,120309613,2017-04-09 13:44:19,">>120308722 >Under the state this is for certain, there are people who obtain security without paying shit i specifically said national security >I don't believe this would be true and people are yet to demonstrate this. nigga what the fuck is OPEC? >but muh gubmints it's a player with pricing power in the oil market",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491745459 120274698,120309725,2017-04-09 13:45:07,">>120309345 >>120309393 Salt for lunch?",,Anonymous,1430435679697.jpg,/8XjiNj2rwvlcsrdHdpupA==,GB,,1491745507 120274698,120309789,2017-04-09 13:45:34,">>120309725 nigger lover nigger lover",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745534 120274698,120309803,2017-04-09 13:45:41,">>120308886 >Insurance costs go up and threat is not removed Seems like you would not be a very successful insurer. You're seriously overrating the economic capabilities of Nazi Germany. They wouldn't be able to maintain aggression for long before their socialism started showing why socialism never works.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491745541 120274698,120310006,2017-04-09 13:47:19,">>120309106 It's not profitable because the government takes your money and builds them instead. Which totally kills any incentive to compete against them. How can any company compete against a company that gets peoples money irregardless of their service and usage?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491745639 120274698,120310020,2017-04-09 13:47:25,">>120308886 If people start moving away, from the border, the rest will be able to pay lower premiums because it's less likely that people will lose their lives in an invasion. It will eventually reach equilibrium between population density and risk.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491745645 120274698,120310244,2017-04-09 13:49:17,"Though part of me wants to hold out for the hope of ""MUH 1024D CHINESE CHECKERS""... Get fucking BTFO Trumptards Y'all have been shitting up this board with your Johnny-come-lately bullshit for the past two years. Let's get things back to the Zimmerman, Sandy Hook, and nonstop HABBENING glory days. /pol/ is officially libertarian again.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,oXph7/jyagz/ZDl+PaCm8Q==,US,,1491745757 120274698,120310304,2017-04-09 13:49:48,">>120309613 The OPEC is a cartel that gets btfo'd every time they raise the prices above fracking costs of extraction. Their monopoly abuses are in check by other technologies/methods becoming profitable if they begin abusing their situation. Which is what i've been saying for 5 fucking posts already.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491745788 120274698,120310493,2017-04-09 13:51:25,">>120309106 >Because if it were profitable for companies to build roads without government direction and funding, they would already be doing it. And they do: http://www.ilisp.org/noticias/cansados-de-esperar-pelo-estado-agricultores-constroem-33-km-de-estrada-com-dinheiro-privado/ Hopefully you understand huehue",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1491745885 120274698,120310510,2017-04-09 13:51:37,">>120309789 Whatever you say, Miguel",,Anonymous,1425849957377.png,NCrJVXGzqZncKoOECIj22Q==,GB,,1491745897 120274698,120310581,2017-04-09 13:52:04,">>120310304 >check by other technologies/methods becoming profitable if they begin abusing their situation yes but they still have a fucking negative on the fucking oil prices- because they exist you pay a fucking higher price holy shit are you that fuckign dense?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491745924 120274698,120310663,2017-04-09 13:52:47,">>120277874 I bookmarked this yesterday, thank you for this.",,Anonymous,Fuck commies.jpg,WzsMVX99ZytLO62kl4GyGw==,US,,1491745967 120274698,120311064,2017-04-09 13:55:44,">>120310006 The government doesn't really build roads directly. Instead, it puts out requests for proposals and then companies compete for those contracts. The companies are working for the government, not competing against it. But there is nothing stopping them from accepting non-government contracts. They just don't because, surprise surprise, not many private companies want to pay for road construction, except for things like parking lots. >>120310493 Never said that privately-funded highways couldn't exist, but it definitely wouldn't work for an entire road system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491746144 120274698,120311117,2017-04-09 13:56:08,">>120310510 go love some niggers, nigger lover.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491746168 120274698,120311402,2017-04-09 13:58:28,">>120279409 Quality of rhyme indicates estimated b&-age likelihood : high.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491746308 120274698,120311426,2017-04-09 13:58:40,">>120310581 But is not OPEC an instance of a state run cartel, i.e. a cartel that operate with the benefit of state force? That's not exactly the same context as that of an imaginary cartel operating without the benefit of state force in a free market.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491746320 120274698,120311443,2017-04-09 13:58:49,">>120310581 >because they exist you pay a fucking higher price If all the cow owners in the world created a cartel my steak would be more expensive, they might have a monopoly on cows but they certainly don't have a monopoly on food. I will only keep consuming steak if I perceive the value of this steak superior to chicken wings. Market deals with scarcity by increasing prices on products that are scarce up until their marginal utility value is reached, you would be paying the same for the petrol with or without OPEC.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491746329 120274698,120311474,2017-04-09 13:59:02,">>120309803 >maintain aggression They wouldn't even need aggression. Read through the scenario again. Forget about Nazi Germany. The mere existence of ANY expansionist state with an organized military next door is enough to massively increase the cost of maintaining the properties on the border. Add to that the risk of them being the first one to be annexed in an invasion, which makes them virtually useless. Now we have properties that a) have incredibly high cost b) have a very low value due to the risk of imminent invasion When everyone moves away from the border (because it's obviously cheaper than maintaining it) it is no longer covered by insurance. At this point the neighboring state can just walk in without firing a single shot.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491746342 120274698,120311481,2017-04-09 13:59:05,">>120296724 you see the IDs on this board... faggot",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491746345 120274698,120311549,2017-04-09 13:59:30,">>120311064 >Never said that privately-funded highways couldn't exist, but it definitely wouldn't work for an entire road system. Why?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1491746370 120274698,120311612,2017-04-09 14:00:02,">>120310581 OPEC isn't cutting off all economic transactions and they have no interest in doing so. Therefore value is definitionally still being created. If oil prices are too high, the money will go to other sectors of the economy and make your second highest priority slightly cheaper, so it's still a net good for the aggregate. >>120311426 Also this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491746402 120274698,120311770,2017-04-09 14:01:09,">>120274698 Any way we could get these all in a pastebin so we can keep the links all in one place so they don't get lost? Nice thread though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491746469 120274698,120311833,2017-04-09 14:01:34,">>120303920 Fellow /pol/ack, what's the cam site she's active or the name she uses? I only know of her as white rose. I need a good fap today, my mate.",,Anonymous,C4qI7UKWMAEhgX1.jpg large.jpg,NVwRNVWMiVfyJxpGhf9MXw==,US,,1491746494 120274698,120311965,2017-04-09 14:02:46,">>120311549 Because the idea of making every single road a toll-road is absurd.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491746566 120274698,120311996,2017-04-09 14:02:59,">>120311770 That is what the website will be for. The OP can then be core stuff or thread theme related. >>120277874",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491746579 120274698,120312007,2017-04-09 14:03:04,">>120274698 AM I BEING DETAINED?????????????? lolbertanianism btfo",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1491746584 120274698,120312017,2017-04-09 14:03:10,">>120311426 world oil market is free and unregulated market. OPEC is a player with 40% of the market share opec uses this 40% to manipulate price to earn a higher profit OPEC being governmental organization means nothing because he is argueing that giving monopoly power to a single corporation is an OK thing to do",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491746590 120274698,120312140,2017-04-09 14:04:10,">>120311474 >massively increase the cost of maintaining the properties on the border I still don't see this. I mean, okay, I will put a higher value on security if my neighbor country is armed to the teeth, but they are armed to the teeth because of extraction of resources on their productive members, which is not economically sustainable. They are killing their economy to become stronger, meanwhile, your economy is not subject to these extractions, so you can afford a nuclear bomb with the pennies in your people's pockets. Im just saying, you're creating an example out of a time with massive poverty, where the economies were so simple that even communism could ""work"", just by focusing on food and infrastructure. Centralized economies became less and less efficient as the economies and people demands get more and more complex.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491746650 120274698,120312311,2017-04-09 14:05:34,">>120311443 stop giving me these basic explenation that dont hold shit in the real world. Just because price is not perfectly inelastic doesnt mean its not a problem and you would be better off without a cartel or monopoly",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491746734 120274698,120312373,2017-04-09 14:06:10,">>120311612 >OPEC isn't cutting off all economic transactions and they have no interest in doing so. Therefore value is definitionally still being created. >If oil prices are too high, the money will go to other sectors of the economy and make your second highest priority slightly cheaper, so it's still a net good for the aggregate. no shit, prices are still higher because of OPEC, the world would be a better place without it",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491746770 120274698,120312530,2017-04-09 14:07:21,was the Republic of Pirates(1706–1718) anarcho-capitalism?,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491746841 120274698,120312536,2017-04-09 14:07:25,">>120311474 What you say is true, but you also forget that because of all this, the selling price of those properties will be pretty cheap. Someone out there might be crazy or desperate or poor enough to buy them. Change the threat of ""expansionist state"" to any natural threat that diminishes the value of property (like a volcano, earthquake, flood, mudslime, etc.) and you'll see that in spite of these threats, people still live there, because there is a market price that is low enough to make people live there.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1491746845 120274698,120312811,2017-04-09 14:09:41,">>120311064 What I find amazing for the U.S. Constitution is that its required that the Government maintain POST roads for the needs of commerce to thrive. The reason why most private businesses don't commission for their own is that its a free road to use already that they don't need to maintain. You also have to look to make sure standards and quality are on par from varying road builders and a set of rules would have to be set but the government already does this to a degree. Government goals should include making commerce have the ability to move goods and services around the nation as efficiently as possible without infringing on business or properties.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491746981 120274698,120312918,2017-04-09 14:10:32,">>120312311 Of course we would be better off if petrol grew on trees. Sadly it is scarce, and the only way to deal with this is by letting people decide how much they're willing to spend on it before other alternatives (or the abandonment of this market) begin being viable. The fact that the OPEC has almost a monopoly on petrol is not making petrol more expensive, if petrol was just as scarce but shared in millions of smaller pounds, its price would always tend to the point of it making alternatives more cost-efficient.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491747032 120274698,120313026,2017-04-09 14:11:25,">>120312530 Unfortunately my entire knowledge of that time is based on Black Sails, but I would imagine so.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491747085 120274698,120313323,2017-04-09 14:13:50,">>120312017 >world oil market is free and unregulated market. I don't think that's an true premise, in that a market in which force can be used is probably not free. This would mean that the internal cartel dynamic is not the same as the one that would obtain within the context of a market in which players could not use force (or some form of diplomatic pressure) against one another. Then again, I don't know what your main point was, and I'm not super tied to whatever thesis it is that I'm defending right now.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491747230 120274698,120313366,2017-04-09 14:14:14,">>120312918 >Of course we would be better off if petrol grew on trees. thats not my point and answer the damn question and stop derailing disccusion into your ramblings about scarcity and monopoly theory 1.if OPEC would not have existed and countries in it would produce oil just like any other country does would we a. oil would be cheaper b. oil would be more expensive",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491747254 120274698,120313451,2017-04-09 14:14:53,">>120313026 >>120312530 lel",,Anonymous,file.png,Rj3Px2BrUy368AfZz8mfIA==,GB,,1491747293 120274698,120313599,2017-04-09 14:16:01,">>120312811 Public roads are not an infringement on anybody's freedom. They just aren't. The government does plenty of stupid shit that libertarians can complain about without trying to privatize everything. Like speed limits. They're stupid. Nobody follows them. Almost everybody naturally assumes a safe speed when they're driving and the few that don't wouldn't care about speed limits anyway. I believe that speed limits could be almost completely eliminated without any negative consequences.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491747361 120274698,120313665,2017-04-09 14:16:40,">>120313323 >I don't think that's an true premise, in that a market in which force they dont use force, they literally reduce their production, oil becomes scares and the price rises",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491747400 120274698,120313725,2017-04-09 14:17:08,">>120313665 scarcer***",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491747428 120274698,120313738,2017-04-09 14:17:12,">>120313366 c) the same I answered this question 3 times. Im saying that the price of scarce products will always tend to be equal to the price point where alternatives become viable. Without OPEC, just like with it, petrol will cost slightly less than extracting it with fracking, or going deep sea, or using solar panels, or whatever alternative method.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491747432 120274698,120314143,2017-04-09 14:20:36,">>120312918 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel >>120313599 If the use of eminent domain is used when someone or business does not want to sell their property, then it is. Also can agree with speed limits. We need to have autobahn tier roads but at the same time we would need higher requirements as well. Don't want idiots crashing at 100+. We should keep speed limits in some areas for safety.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491747636 120274698,120314150,2017-04-09 14:20:39,">>120312140 >which is not economically sustainable You're saying it like they'd collapse the next day. Let's forget about Nazi Germany and take modern day China. Despite them being statist they are not gonna collapse soon and their economy is growing. Even if they collapsed within the next 10 years, that's still more than enough time to conquer Ancapistan. And if they go full mobilization / war economy mode, they have a larger total military budget and higher man power in the short term despite them having a weaker economy. Hell, they might even buy your recreational nukes for a cheap price, if their statism makes their own production is ""too expensive"".",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491747639 120274698,120314221,2017-04-09 14:21:17,">>120313665 >they dont use force, they literally reduce their production, oil becomes scares and the price rises I think you're wrong again. The whole point of a cartel is to raise price through concerted action. As we all know, in so far as the price is actually raised by a cartel's behavior, incentives grow for the individual member of the cartel to defect so as to profit from the price rise caused by the cartel. The use of force in this particular case comes precisely from the different nature of state run cartel as compared to private ones. In the case of OPEC, defection from the cartel implies some breach of relation between sovereign nation and a potential for retaliatory measures that go beyond the scope of a system of free exchange. The force is implied. This is the sense in which I meant that the actors that constitute OPEC do not operate in the same kind of environment as private firms would. (Do not assume that I'm an ancap. I'm not.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491747677 120274698,120314461,2017-04-09 14:23:07,">>120313738 >c) the same you are embarassing yourself. If OPEC disbanded countries1 would increa1se their production to increa1se their revenues and oil prices w1ould fall. >Im saying that the price of scarce products will always tend to be equal to the price point where alternatives become viable. also wrong, alternatives only set an upper limit to this- when oil price reaches a level alternatives become more attractive compared to oil, but for transportation fuel there simply is no viable alternative anywhere close to petrol. >petrol will cost slightly less than extracting it with fracking petrol is extracted by fracking, not sure wtf u even argueing about, did u jsut learn hotelling in class or something?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491747787 120274698,120314520,2017-04-09 14:23:40,">>120312373 YOU might be better off without it. The economy as a whole is happy to put resources the most people are benefited the most. >>120313665 Do you know what a marginal revenue curve looks like? The reason McDonalds doesn't hire 100 people is because while the 10th person produces $7 of value, the 100th person produces $0.20. >>120314221 Also this.",,Anonymous,eltrf5.jpg,D3H2qEugz2L9O2uheV05Wg==,US,,1491747820 120274698,120314684,2017-04-09 14:25:04,"I appreciate the purity and the ideology behind AnCapism, but at the same time I can't help but think it's massively impractical and unrealistic. Wouldn't you agree that a minarchist constitutional republic is a much more realistic goal than a global AnCapistan? Also, as a sidenote speaking of minarchist constitutional republics, what could have been done to prevent the USA from reaching the explosion of big government in the mid 20th century? What amendments did the constitution need to prevent this?",,Anonymous,1441572795897.jpg,Fnjfi3SSWYYEPiMLQHIDiQ==,GB,,1491747904 120274698,120314885,2017-04-09 14:26:41,">>120314461 >but for transportation fuel there simply is no viable alternative anywhere close to petrol. Moving closer to the city? What a leaf.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491748001 120274698,120315047,2017-04-09 14:28:13,">>120314221 yeah, I sort of get your point. But do you honestly think it would act much differently than the private one? the incentives are the similar, it might be just a bit more expensive to defect. And members of OPEC defect as well, it's one of the reasons OPEC sometimes isn't very successful at implementing their polciies optimally.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491748093 120274698,120315063,2017-04-09 14:28:19,">>120314684 >Wouldn't you agree that a minarchist constitutional republic is a much more realistic goal than a global AnCapistan? Most in the thread would agree, yeah. This is /lrg/ not /ancap/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491748099 120274698,120315440,2017-04-09 14:31:30,">>120314684 Global AnCapistan is the pragmatic utopia that is in theory ideal; in reality Minarchy is both the route to this and much more practical to setup. So yes, basically.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491748290 120274698,120315498,2017-04-09 14:31:54,">>120314150 Or we can see the US getting kicked out of Vietnam. There was no conquer there, land still belong to the Vietnamese people, and this is the war of a rich Capitalist country vs a communist shithole, imagine the chances of the opposite, a socialist place trying to conquer a capitalist one. >>120314461 >you are embarassing yourself. If OPEC disbanded countries1 would increa1se their production to increa1se their revenues and oil prices w1ould fall. And then your country runs out of petrol which means you've been selling it under its actual maximum price. Not good practice, not going to happen, with or without OPEC. >also wrong, alternatives only set an upper limit to this- when oil price reaches a level alternatives become more attractive compared to oil, but for transportation fuel there simply is no viable alternative anywhere close to petrol. I never said petrol is not the best, I'm saying its price will always be limited, and therefore tend to it, by the price of the next best alternative. >petrol is extracted by fracking, not sure wtf u even argueing about, did u jsut learn hotelling in class or something? Im obviously talking about recent hydraulic fracturing practices that have tanked OPEC members economies.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491748314 120274698,120315618,2017-04-09 14:32:49,">>120315047 But then it seems to me that, if cartels were so effective, we should expect them to arise in a free market context at lest as much as in an international state context. We should, for instance, expect some (officious) airline cartel, financial industry cartel, large retail chain cartel, fast food industry cartel, etc. (All of which, of course, would be officious.) We should expect cartel behavior from international corporation and so on. That fact that this does not seem to be the case would tend to indicate to me that there is something that is distinctly geopolitical about the OPEC. Of course, there may be A LOT of cartel behavior in a free market context I'm not aware of.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491748369 120274698,120315730,2017-04-09 14:33:45,">>120315498 >Or we can see the statist getting kicked out of another statist *fixed Therefore not relevant to this conversation.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491748425 120274698,120316033,2017-04-09 14:36:00,">>120315730 There are examples of very statist countries that could never wage war without getting btfo'd by less statist countries. State is not what is relevant in that comparison, money is.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491748560 120274698,120316059,2017-04-09 14:36:11,">>120315618 >there may be A LOT of cartel behavior in a free market context I'm not aware of One prominent example is Luxottica. Although it's debatable how free the market is. Here's a good read. >https://mises.org/library/monopoly-through-austrian-lenses",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491748571 120317730,120317730,2017-04-09 14:47:53,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Comfy Sunday evening discussion edition,Anonymous,1491690706678.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,GB,,1491749273 120317730,120318017,2017-04-09 14:49:58,>the free market would fix the problem of new threads if the regulatory 4chan state didn't intervene with silly rules sub-edition,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491749398 120317730,120318790,2017-04-09 14:55:30,,,Anonymous,1491702624380.gif,fGrwVTp0wgkT8iPDSVkCVQ==,GB,,1491749730 120317730,120319127,2017-04-09 14:58:11,Nice links,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491749891 120317730,120319446,2017-04-09 15:00:50,,,Anonymous,1491704051866.jpg,QohK4xkwv7OjvTtlRu1HNA==,GB,,1491750050 120317730,120319932,2017-04-09 15:04:34,">>120318017 but anon, 4chan is private property. well, maybe it is owned by the FBI, but at least it pretends it's not.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491750274 120317730,120320339,2017-04-09 15:07:46,">>120318017 >being a libertarian means you're against a private company making rules about their own products and services lol no",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491750466 120317730,120320415,2017-04-09 15:08:20,Any more OC over the past 12 hours?,,Anonymous,1491694092039.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,CA,,1491750500 120317730,120320606,2017-04-09 15:09:41,">>120319932 >>120320339 It was a facetious joke",,Anonymous,1491683273326.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,GB,,1491750581 120317730,120321503,2017-04-09 15:15:47,">>120320606 I knew, but having to deal with retards constantly means that you are going to find people making this kind of questions seriously. Might as well answer anyways.",,Anonymous,2ce9206b593c8e0e5bedda6c4d39aba886c75e61ffe91ca2fedabbdfdd244806.png,KklBKEs7jbjLdEnsWqKoag==,ES,,1491750947 120317730,120322278,2017-04-09 15:21:26,is the american libertarian party close to hoppe's ideas? is it even libertarian? are there any good libertarian politicians outside rand/ron paul?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491751286 120317730,120322736,2017-04-09 15:24:42,">>120322278 The American libertarian party is pointless just like all third parties in the US. Anybody who really wants lower taxes votes Republican because of the Norquist pledge.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491751482 120317730,120322767,2017-04-09 15:24:59,">>120322278 As far as I know the LP is the party of the failed republicans. They try to advocate smaller government while trying to appeal to progressive young people. Hence their terrible results every election. The only reason why they were even allowed into mainstream media the last election was because the establishment was this desperate to divide all the possible Trump voters as much as they could.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491751499 120317730,120322852,2017-04-09 15:25:31,">>120317730 here is a pastebin for all the reading going forward https://pastebin.com/FKTP3BCh also here is a /libright/ discord I just made https://discord.gg/MzeHX",,Anonymous,1491743572277.png,FO6ekDiFrKl7n3jCVbrZJQ==,US,,1491751531 120317730,120323464,2017-04-09 15:30:20,,,Anonymous,1491674902426.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,CA,,1491751820 120317730,120323563,2017-04-09 15:31:00,Post your funny pictures,,Anonymous,jk5bNzVtJilNObuS3N-d8VkBLPNX3wIXQ46Xw_PZTK8.png,Pf1BbhBkujFFxRuqC0CxiA==,SE,,1491751860 120317730,120323668,2017-04-09 15:31:49,">>120317077 o shit we got two threads up. whateves i'll post here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491751909 120317730,120323802,2017-04-09 15:33:01,"Daily Reminder that this is Libertarian RIGHT General. Fuck the Allepo johnson faggots, left-libertarians and other cucky shit-libs.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1491751981 120317730,120323852,2017-04-09 15:33:23,,,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1491752003 120317730,120323857,2017-04-09 15:33:25,">>120317730 Well I guess this is the new stupid trendy shilling shit that you guys have been baited for, anarcho capitalism will never happen by nature. I think this is just the new less obvious way of being one those faggots that open up communism generals I guess and some idiots clearly have fallen for it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491752005 120317730,120323905,2017-04-09 15:33:49,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1491752029 120317730,120323956,2017-04-09 15:34:10,">>120317730 what does libs think of white power?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491752050 120317730,120324265,2017-04-09 15:36:26,">>120323857 Fuck off faggot >>120323956 tfw I'm proud and white, but think national socialism is and awful authoritarian welfare state.",,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1491752186 120317730,120324734,2017-04-09 15:39:55,">>120322852 For starters you would do much better with Mises Institute videos in youtube and other high quality yet easily absorbed information media. The books should always come later, except maybe for the shortest ones like Anatomy of the State. Here are a few examples of Tom Woods, that guy is who swayed me to libertarianism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t31z2s_NZQg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2_dPLBlvDI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuDq88lO4M He's a really great orator and with his videos I came to the realization that the ""the free market will fix everything"" meme is actually real.",,Anonymous,71213747238829c195e999ee6678653e445d3b8edf241d839d677bd2b07d1d90.png,2nqyx2aZ+4JYcoG7ZsaoqA==,ES,,1491752395 120317730,120325125,2017-04-09 15:42:46,">>120324265 >>120323802 too many words in this god damn make it short and simple so people get the message",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491752566 120317730,120325345,2017-04-09 15:44:14,Opinions on monarchy vs democracy?,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491752654 120317730,120325694,2017-04-09 15:46:40,">>120324734 thanks famalam, i'll put those in the pastebin for the next time, those are some pretty good videos",,Anonymous,1491171758262.png,yVc3dJo+n+26zzgvbeAYBw==,US,,1491752800 120317730,120326004,2017-04-09 15:48:55,">>120322278 God no. They're all democrats in disguise because of ""muh weed""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491752935 120317730,120326064,2017-04-09 15:49:14,">>120325345 Both shitty but in different ways. Monarchy is like a right wing dictatorship but working better, democracy is Communism lite. If you ask because you're starting Democracy by Hoppe, wait until you've gotten to the end. The whole Monachy vs Democracy thing is just a thought exercise to make you think more logically and erode current day prejudices.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491752954 120317730,120326072,2017-04-09 15:49:18,">>120324734 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t31z2s_NZQg I wish he got more into the ""manufacturing being outsourced"" argument that people tend to bring up",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491752958 120317730,120326134,2017-04-09 15:49:43,">>120322278 bernie sanders",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491752983 120317730,120326202,2017-04-09 15:50:14,SMASH DEMOCRACY,,Anonymous,1491687648163.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,CA,,1491753014 120317730,120326405,2017-04-09 15:51:40,">>120326202 Democracy is just a soft form of communism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491753100 120317730,120326519,2017-04-09 15:52:31,">>120322278 No, the libertarian party is an embarrassment to true libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491753151 120317730,120326769,2017-04-09 15:54:15,">>120326519 Can it be reformed?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491753255 120317730,120326812,2017-04-09 15:54:33,">>120326072 True, the problem though is that people don't realize what is the reason why industries are leaving in the first place. In the end there are no arguments for protectionism that don't stem out of ignorance. It's just a fact. >>120326519 As a matter of fact, if you look up the history of the libertarian movement the creation of the LP was its nail in the coffin.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491753273 120317730,120326936,2017-04-09 15:55:25,">>120326064 Ok thank you, and you guessed it correctly, reading Hoppes book What is your opinion on Liberland then?",,Anonymous,Liberland_vlajka.png,iL5rOPQ2xqE/uGoDx0QSFA==,SE,,1491753325 120317730,120327076,2017-04-09 15:56:23,>>120326769,,Anonymous,karl hess.jpg,4vpAtljRsjisLUXNGxvxtQ==,ES,,1491753383 120317730,120327265,2017-04-09 15:57:33,*BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFCHZCHZCHZ*,,Anonymous,1491687812584.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1491753453 120317730,120327335,2017-04-09 15:58:00,">>120326812 >True, the problem though is that people don't realize what is the reason why industries are leaving in the first place. >In the end there are no arguments for protectionism that don't stem out of ignorance. It's just a fact. If we had no central bank and we had DEFLATION we would be seeing a lot more of the benefits of free trade. The first country to end their central bank will have super high living standards because the rest of the world will be sending this country all of their products and services dirt cheap. Massive service sector industries would pop up for people in this country to consume the products from the rest of the world.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491753480 120317730,120327695,2017-04-09 16:00:26,">>120327265 gross whats with hispanics and fart porn?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491753626 120317730,120327781,2017-04-09 16:00:58,,,Anonymous,emblem.png,BPTmVb9gcXZtQGaGzyhfbQ==,GB,,1491753658 120317730,120327932,2017-04-09 16:02:09,dont mind me just dumping some stuff,,Anonymous,32e94541257f0986de2970199ca5e904ee71bbe2.png,XYaVrHpOARmsgolFvT0bVA==,US,,1491753729 120317730,120327958,2017-04-09 16:02:18,">>120327335 >The first country to end their central bank will have super high living standards because... Objection: The first country to end their central bank will be invaded by the US army and its population will be mercilessly massacrated until a puppet democracy is instored and ints central bank is working again. Ending central banks is truly a dream, but this is something that won't happen as long as American military supremacy still exists. >>120326936 It's interesting but I don't see it having any future. Though I would love seeing a Europe of hundreds of little micronations, and this is something I believe that will happen during our lifetimes.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491753738 120317730,120327977,2017-04-09 16:02:27,"What's our political strategy? We have none.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491753747 120317730,120328088,2017-04-09 16:03:14,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOmq-U21pok what the fuck is this shit? /pol/ confirmed as MSM bastion",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1491753794 120317730,120328119,2017-04-09 16:03:26,">>120327958 >first country to end their central bank will be invaded by the US army and its population will be mercilessly massacrated until a puppet democracy is instored and ints central bank is working again. True. But people have to realize what a massive benefit getting rid of central banks would do for humanity. People are so enslaved. Leftists literally believe central banks are great and without them the economy would collapse and we'd have horrible depressions.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491753806 120317730,120328231,2017-04-09 16:04:12,/2,,Anonymous,1485953176442.jpg,rtobQpVQ+oecLU2N9ZatsA==,US,,1491753852 120317730,120328308,2017-04-09 16:04:46,">>120326769 I don't know much about the inner workings of the party. But I have a dream where I run as a candidate and just shit on everything those faggots stand for. I hate their guts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491753886 120317730,120328500,2017-04-09 16:06:07,">>120327977 Agorism and counter economics is one. It brought down many communist regimes in Eastern Europe. It's not a ""political"" strategy though.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491753967 120317730,120328620,2017-04-09 16:06:57,">>120326405 FUCKING AGREED. South Korea died when our greatest leader Park Chung Hee got assassinated. And our democratic liberal have funded NK's nuke.",,Anonymous,3a4c7ff33c0bba9476e373252035cbc3.jpg,+uXpEN3U202TaiNk8zVd5Q==,KR,,1491754017 120317730,120328621,2017-04-09 16:06:57,"LET US PRIVATIZE OCEANS >State's property so they're handled fucking terrible. >States do not grow value of their resources. >States exploit them to waste while keeping everyone outside of their monopoly. Now with privatization we have good incentives to take care of them and make them better.",,Anonymous,¨lollol.jpg,BtHFKZkhnFWhed6RDmWqZg==,FI,,1491754017 120317730,120328929,2017-04-09 16:09:06,US deficit /3,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-02-12 at 9.04.35 PM.png,D0L8zg9uFU/6gshpHX7Dww==,US,,1491754146 120317730,120328953,2017-04-09 16:09:15,">>120317730 ok educate me on this one : 1- in a ancap society how it would be possible to prevent cartels,monopolys and other shit like that ? 2- if a person is born unable to work, is he doomed ? 3- roads, i know this seems like a meme. lets say companies create roads, will they hold the right over those roads? impeding the competition to use them ? those are my doubts, please clarify them to me guys.",,Anonymous,monkey-thinking.jpg,CSeQVJGSabyJ4khQ4zqCrw==,BR,,1491754155 120317730,120329087,2017-04-09 16:10:17,">>120323802 Saved",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491754217 120317730,120329178,2017-04-09 16:10:53,">>120328953 >1- in a ancap society how it would be possible to prevent cartels,monopolys and other shit like that ? >monopolies >free market anti trust laws are completely useless bullshit",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491754253 120317730,120329262,2017-04-09 16:11:23,hero/4,,Anonymous,1490800370894.jpg,MLyh/1QH5y8piYYdJj7o1g==,US,,1491754283 120317730,120329300,2017-04-09 16:11:38,"We need to make a bunch of infographics. We need one on monopolies. I'm tired of debunking this shit. Why haven't we made detailed infographics yet?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491754298 120317730,120329402,2017-04-09 16:12:23,">>120328953 >if a person is born unable to work, is he doomed? Not nessesarily, but he does need charity. Our ideal system wont ""save"" him, people will.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491754343 120317730,120329471,2017-04-09 16:12:53,">>120328119 >But people have to realize what a massive benefit getting rid of central banks would do for humanity. Not necessarily so. People don't really need to realize anything for political change to happen. There's this common thought bias everyone has in Western countries that events in history happen because ""the people wanted to"", which is just a bogus identification of the people with their political systems. What I'm trying to say that central banking will fail not because ""the people"" gets tired of it. Most people are fucking idiots and don't know what central banking even is. Central banking will fail because it simply does not work and there is a massive incentive for someone to find a way to replace it with something better. Incentives, technology and other real world factors are what drive political change, not popular mood swings and the wishful thinking of elites. We are in one of those times in history in which the elites in charge are complete idiots without the slightest fucking idea what they are doing and with ridiculous pretensions like one world government and other retarded pipe dreams. It's a time of change.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491754373 120317730,120329547,2017-04-09 16:13:21,">>120329300 its a project im working on, but im also working on a hundred other things for the thread. If you come up with the text part I can put it into photoshop and sell it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491754401 120317730,120329657,2017-04-09 16:14:12,">>120329471 >What I'm trying to say that central banking will fail not because ""the people"" gets tired of it. Most people are fucking idiots and don't know what central banking even is. That's why we need to educate people.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491754452 120317730,120329679,2017-04-09 16:14:22,">>120329178 so you mean that monopolies in the free market are impossible to happen ? ok, what about cartels ? the biggest of all companies in the same sect join forces to make the game harder for the smaller ones. how can you solve this problem ?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491754462 120317730,120329759,2017-04-09 16:14:52,">>120329300 I propose one explaining the ""physical removal"" thing to edgy fags that think this is some form of advocacy for violence.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491754492 120317730,120329835,2017-04-09 16:15:26,">>120329657 What I was trying to say is that it doesn't really matter.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491754526 120317730,120329899,2017-04-09 16:15:44,">>120329402 i see so a possible solution is ONGs or some shit oriented as a profiteable source. im ok with that.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491754544 120317730,120330182,2017-04-09 16:17:59,">>120329679 >the biggest of all companies in the same sect join forces to make the game harder for the smaller ones. lmao all it takes is for one of these companies to break the cartel by lowering their prices and this company will take almost all of the market share away from the other companies, the temptation to do this is too great. ALSO all it takes is for 1 company to pop up and fuck the cartel. It creates a HUGE juicy profit opportunity for any company to come along and provide lower prices, they would take ALL of the market share away from these large firms. there are countless examples of these things happening in the 1800s.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491754679 120317730,120330190,2017-04-09 16:18:03,">>120329759 Don't cuck my shit up. Have you read democracy yet. Your partially correct that's it doesn't mean genocide, but it can imply use of force for discrimination purposes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491754683 120317730,120330263,2017-04-09 16:18:39,">>120329759 >I propose one explaining the ""physical removal"" thing to edgy fags that think this is some form of advocacy for violence. It's not? :^)",,Anonymous,1491662474357.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,CA,,1491754719 120317730,120330404,2017-04-09 16:19:38,">>120329899 And not to mention his/her own family would most likely take care.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491754778 120317730,120330773,2017-04-09 16:22:22,">>120330263 He prefers selling drugs to rebel against the state, and I'm tired of that hippy bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491754942 120317730,120331110,2017-04-09 16:24:41,">>120330182 so trusts, cartels and monopolies are just possible because of the state and its intervention ? I mean, some of this movements are visible in ""simulated"" envyronments like bitcoin and altcoin trading sites. People often do ""pump and dump"" do manipulate prices and profit from the people that buy on the high prices. There is no government in there to make them stop. this is on a small scale, imagine what would happen in a large scale the ammount of misery such inorganic movements on the economy would produce.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491755081 120317730,120331400,2017-04-09 16:26:39,">>120328620 >democratic liberals funded north koreas nukes thats the shit they invented guillotines for",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491755199 120317730,120331508,2017-04-09 16:27:36,">>120331110 >so trusts, cartels and monopolies are just possible because of the state and its intervention ? Yes. >People often do ""pump and dump"" do manipulate prices and profit from the people that buy on the high prices. Doesn't mean they're a cartel or monopoly. >this is on a small scale, imagine what would happen in a large scale It literally only happens on a small scale because scams like this would get quickly rooted out in the market.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491755256 120317730,120332030,2017-04-09 16:31:18,">>120331110 Pump and dump is a meme. Speculation actually stabilizes the price of a commodity (reduces its volatility). This is economics 101 senpai",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491755478 120317730,120333183,2017-04-09 16:39:39,">everyone stopped posting Is this how the general of freedom dies?",,Anonymous,1478725556754.gif,e1DzR+5dDPgVdgHTQVEMVw==,CA,,1491755979 120317730,120333721,2017-04-09 16:43:35,">>120333183 I'm still here. I'm the guard dog of this thread and I keep a watchful eye out for shills of all kinds, and other subversions trying to corrupt my open minded lrg Bros. I just don't have any new content to shill so I stay quite",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491756215 120317730,120333725,2017-04-09 16:43:38,">>120322852 Link expired, gib new one",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491756218 120317730,120333834,2017-04-09 16:44:35,">>120333183 I've actually noticed that these generals have been getting more and more popular lately than they have in the past. On the other hand, perhaps.",,Anonymous,1491435182028-pol.jpg,7gkHC2aRdOepG7W5cRzT6g==,US,,1491756275 120317730,120333877,2017-04-09 16:44:55,">>120333725 got you famalam https://discord.gg/YPMu3",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491756295 120317730,120335067,2017-04-09 16:53:32,"I want to talk about public school - specifically what could replace its function of (ostensibly) detecting cases of child abuse/neglect? Private and distance learning options are voluntary, so nothing would prevent some nutcase from abusing their kids in seclusion. But any solution i can think of would be even more invasive than public schooling. Would we just count these fringe cases as acceptable losses, or is there anything that could be done in a hypothetical post-public society?",,Anonymous,1485811758776.png,alrw1mLhc3scBqcwj4i8FQ==,US,,1491756812 120317730,120335386,2017-04-09 16:56:00,">>120331110 Yeah, monopolies are possible ONLY due to state intervention. Why there can't be any monopolies in free market: 1) http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/diseconomiesofscale.asp 2) http://moneyterms.co.uk/pareto-optimal/ 3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium",,Anonymous,Capture.png,lNg/X4ZAY2nEKT162BIekA==,US,,1491756960 120317730,120335434,2017-04-09 16:56:21,">>120317730 Daily reminder, you're not a libertarian if you don't support building a space elevator and ending taxation with all the money we can save from selling energy from space-based solar arrays.",,Anonymous,SpaceJFK.jpg,tC7z8Iz1zIuDb/3zcFC2kg==,US,,1491756981 120317730,120335738,2017-04-09 16:58:28,">>120335434 >You are not a libertarian if you don't support massive government spending in some bullshit that we are not sure whether they will fuck up or even work. If space elevator was such a great idea private enterprise would already gotten its hands on it.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491757108 120317730,120335752,2017-04-09 16:58:34,">>120335434 >space based solar arrays SOLAR FREAKING ROADWAYS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491757114 120317730,120336045,2017-04-09 17:00:35,">>120333183 most of us have jobs, which is why we hold our views in the first place",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491757235 120317730,120336115,2017-04-09 17:00:59,You guys don't actually think pinochet was a good ruler do you?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491757259 120317730,120336377,2017-04-09 17:03:04,">>120336115 As far as totalitarian military dictators go, he's pretty alright. 9/10",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491757384 120317730,120336485,2017-04-09 17:03:51,">>120336115 He was OK, not really right-wing though. He saved Chile from red plague, that's about it. His economic policies were moderate-right at best, because major piece of big business was still under government control, there was universal healthcare, minimum wage and shit.",,Anonymous,Capture.png,LTBp+oOzN8dJm2bvnBdQRg==,US,,1491757431 120317730,120336494,2017-04-09 17:03:55,">>120335738 They don't have the ability to borrow a few hundred billion dollars, and they don't have the military to protect it. Contrary to what the ancaps say, states do have comparative advantages in some areas, and your capital stock will grow faster by building those projects than demanding ""muh free market"" when you can verify that the return on investment is lower.",,Anonymous,691524.jpg,UfpPjhdVXXwwHeJjBC7Bwg==,US,,1491757435 120317730,120336699,2017-04-09 17:05:19,">>120317730 I had a conversation with one of my ""Christian"" friends today, a lady who's a good 10 years older than me. She said she likes socialism because, well, she didn't really list any concrete reasons other than that she thinks there are some people who are too greedy. Bitch needs to learn the ten commandments. What ever happened to ""thou shalt not steal""? It's not wonder both of her children have stolen shit so many times, she says the idea of stealing repels her and she doesn't understand why anyone would do it, yet she supports mass stealing ""Because some people are greedy"". She thinks the bible speaks in support of socialism. It's disgusting. So many supposed Christians who don't even read the bible, and preach the opposite of that Jesus preached. Make no mistake, you cannot be a socialist AND be practicing a Christian. Fuck commies.",,Anonymous,1482283512316.gif,oKx06SQoBad9UvLGWq44gw==,US,,1491757519 120317730,120337162,2017-04-09 17:08:18,">>120336699 >She thinks the bible speaks in support of socialism But it's completely the opposite. The Bible preaches to be humble and obey the higher ups, while socialism is about permanent revolution and freedom(according to socialists, ofc). Wtf, she has never read a book on socialism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491757698 120317730,120337224,2017-04-09 17:08:42,">>120335738 >If space elevator was such a great idea private enterprise would already gotten its hands on it. bullshit they CAN'T because of government controls and inflation. If the price of capital goods was cheap like it would be under a free market, a space elevator would be economically viable.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491757722 120317730,120337324,2017-04-09 17:09:22,">>120336699 Could you redpill me on Christianity as it pertains to libertarianism? I am also under the impression that Christ espouses some fairly Lefty ideas.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491757762 120317730,120337496,2017-04-09 17:10:28,">>120336699 Shuouldn't you just mention that those who are begging for the state handouts are actually the real greedy people who want to take the fruits of someone else's labor? >TFW the CAPTCHA was roads",,Anonymous,1491753097442-pol.jpg,zhHjn2yCWROcXgs1Ql+t8w==,US,,1491757828 120317730,120337514,2017-04-09 17:10:36,">>120336699 A lot of the new testament can be viewed as supporting socialism, actually. Jesus talks about clothing and feeding the poor, and the early Christians pooled resources. The big distinction imo is that charity is voluntary",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491757836 120317730,120337779,2017-04-09 17:12:20,"Any Illinois anons here? I've been thinking of trying to get a movement to elect a Libertarian candidate for governor in '18. I think it could be done easily just by running on a platform of anti-corruption; both parties have shown themselves to be unrepentant in their corruption and Illinois faces some of the highest taxes just to fund their graft. Would appreciate any other Illinois anons showing interest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491757940 120317730,120338256,2017-04-09 17:15:51,"What do you guys think of Stefan Molyneux? He barely differs from Hoppe. >hates the state >redpilled on IQ >wants whites to have more kids >against migration >advocating for homogeneous countries Hoppe would never be faggot enough to shill for someone like Trump as much as Molyneux did (although the chance that Trump could have been good was there but he barely got anything done yet so Molyneux just wasted his energy anyway), but when it comes to the basics they are almost the same.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1491758151 120317730,120338337,2017-04-09 17:16:23,">>120335386 Your links didn't prove shit.. >Diseconomies of scale Those with the resources to spend on finding a solution to a problem will be the benefactors of said solution >Pareto-optimal In a free market, no one is made ""worse off"" because all agreements are consensual. There are many cases where a consensual deal can be struck but one party is fiscally worse off for it, even if they do not realize it. >Nash Equilibrium You're assuming all parties will have equal resources and equal opportunities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491758183 120317730,120338634,2017-04-09 17:18:37,">>120337224 Well, yes, in the hypothetical case the economy wasn't as fucked as it is today (which most people don't even recognize) private enterprise would already have taken on it. This was kinda implicit in my post. I even unironically believe that without a parasitical entity like the state we would already have (private) colonies in Mars.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491758317 120317730,120338821,2017-04-09 17:19:56,">>120337162 >Has she ever read a book on socialism I would say the bible(Ha!), but I doubt she's even done that. She's a catholic, if that clarifies things any further. She thinks that, in almost as many words, if there was a perfect person who was genuinely kind and had her and everyone else's best interests in mind(of whom she SHOULD believe and know only Jesus fits that bill), she would glady forfeit her money(as well as other things like rights, I'd imagine) to said regime. If she was truly Christian, she'd know already that one day the kingdom of heaven WILL be established by Jesus, and that every government and nation until then does not have biblical approval. >>120337324 Sure, what do you want to know? Why do you think Christ is a lefty(besides all the brainwashed baby boomers saying heretical shit like Jesus loves/accepts sinful acts)? >>120337496 We didn't have a lot of time to talk, but rest assured I WILL set her straight on this. >>120337514 Exactly. Theft is not Charity, and Charity is not Theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491758396 120317730,120338958,2017-04-09 17:21:00,">>120338256 His presentations on welfare and immigration are god tier. I feel like he is similar to Hoppe quite a lot, and if they had some kind of collaboration together I would instantly approve.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491758460 120317730,120339032,2017-04-09 17:21:37,"Alright. I consider myself a libertarian capitalist. I also think this type of government will not work at this point in time simply due to people's degeneracy. In order for people to be not so damn degenerate, we need a period of time where hard times make strong people, and strong people rebuild culture and tradition. Essentially I see the value in transitioning to a national socialist type government for a time being, to purify the minds and souls of man and cast out the rest, to then scale back and return to a libertarian type system that will now work. Anyone else think along these lines?",,Anonymous,f40620112f63a16b2b9f97279fcbb86c24194a8a1c69fc3ef1df9b1026fb0458.png,khT0b1kPxyw4mGOfvAXFbg==,US,,1491758497 120317730,120339140,2017-04-09 17:22:31,">>120338256 Tom Woods is better in every possible way.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491758551 120317730,120339409,2017-04-09 17:24:37,Look what I've found.,,Anonymous,C8-il88XsAAdCKB.jpg,Q+pP7xrIwRxifvr4jdzFqA==,RO,,1491758677 120317730,120339592,2017-04-09 17:25:57,">>120338821 I get the feels Christ was socially liberal and that he promoted pacifism. My knowledge on the subject isn't great. Are all the redpilled teachings hidden away for modernity's same?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491758757 120317730,120339784,2017-04-09 17:27:26,">>120337514 >The big distinction imo is that charity is voluntary exactly so your first sentence kind of falls apart doesn't it?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491758846 120317730,120339789,2017-04-09 17:27:27,">>120339409 >the poorer you are the less you pay taxes wow this made think",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491758847 120317730,120339865,2017-04-09 17:27:57,">>120338337 Oh well, I didn't bother to explain, but here we go. >Diseconomies of scale With structure's growth lags and bugs are inevitable. Inner competition and opportunism of individuals are emerging. Difficulties in management are also growing with the size, this is whether or not you have recourses, that's what it all about. Because of everything mentioned, average costs increase and flexibility shrinks, resulting into dicresing of competitiveness. >Pareto-optimal It's not about ""worse off"". It's about situations when 1 company is trying to kill other players on the market. Pareto-optimal is the things that starts working when the price of war, waged by this 1 company, is becoming more and more expensive, far more expensive than any future profits or previous ones. And there can be only one solution to this - live it be, stop the war. This is what Poreto-optimal is about. >Nash Equilibrium >equal opportunities. They do. When everyone has access to market(and under free market they do), there are no opportunities for profitable plot. And every time, such plots between certain companies result into lowering their competitiveness level, which a big mistake under free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491758877 120317730,120340055,2017-04-09 17:29:19,">>120317730 >LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL Not happy with """"""RIGHT"""""" there is no left or right only libertarian other than that 10/10 bread.",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1491758959 120317730,120340106,2017-04-09 17:29:44,">>120337224 >bullshit >they CAN'T because of government controls and inflation. Then why hasn't another government entity done it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491758984 120317730,120340322,2017-04-09 17:31:18,">>120339409 Why do we even have taxes for people who make under 60k?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491759078 120317730,120340364,2017-04-09 17:31:36,">>120317730 How does any libertarian justify supporting the authoritarian Donald Trump? I'm genuinely curious at the mental gymnastics required to support both things.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759096 120317730,120340389,2017-04-09 17:31:47,">>120339865 game theory is the primary source of arguemnts against free markets though... and nash equilibrium doesnt mean what u think it means",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491759107 120317730,120340467,2017-04-09 17:32:16,">>120340055 R A R E",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491759136 120317730,120340528,2017-04-09 17:32:42,">>120323802 Hmm, I can actually respect this, as a NatSoc. Maybe we can be friends and have a dual-general for right-libertarians and fascists/natsocs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759162 120317730,120340546,2017-04-09 17:32:49,">>120340364 >How does any libertarian justify supporting the authoritarian Donald Trump? We don't support that jew.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491759169 120317730,120340668,2017-04-09 17:33:35,">>120340528 Hey can you give me your opinion on my post here mr natsoc? >>120339032",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759215 120317730,120340823,2017-04-09 17:34:40,">>120340055 Gross. I don't buy the ""transcend the right/left paradigm"" shit. Egalitarianism is very anti liberty and I don't wanna become ""socially liberal fiscally conservative"" garbage. This thread was created for conservative libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759280 120317730,120340841,2017-04-09 17:34:47,">>120340055 I think the same but for some reason this is kinda better because most of pol is pretty prejudiced against libertarianism. Too many cool kids LARPing as nazis and unironic stormfront shilling. Also this threads used to be called /liberty/ long long ago but the thing didn't stick around.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491759287 120317730,120340935,2017-04-09 17:35:23,">>120340467 We are very rare here in Iceland.",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1491759323 120317730,120340998,2017-04-09 17:35:50,">>120340668 I like what you think, but then we'd just go full cycle back to degeneracy if we went libertarian, unless we were NatSoc long enough to completely eradicate degeneracy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759350 120317730,120341188,2017-04-09 17:37:00,">>120340841 IIRC there's a 4+4 board called /liberty/ as well. I wonder if they'd find interest in these discussions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759420 120317730,120341223,2017-04-09 17:37:15,">>120340823 Uhm what is the difference betwen a conservative libertarian agains ""normal"" libertarian",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1491759435 120317730,120341654,2017-04-09 17:40:14,">>120340998 Yeah like that. Going NatSoc long enough to make better men and culture, going full Fascist only if necessary, then a slow transition back to a less central state because, ideally, man would not need it as much.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759614 120317730,120341814,2017-04-09 17:41:23,">>120336699 Excellent post",,Anonymous,1491757322897.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,GB,,1491759683 120317730,120341822,2017-04-09 17:41:26,">>120329759 Piss off, we need to get way more aggressive and violent in defense of liberty and property. If you define the NAP to the point where you can only resist the communists when there's a dozen heavily armed commissars standing in front of your door it becomes utterly pointless, because that will never happen unless they already know they will win any subsequent confrontation.",,Anonymous,1488490092933.jpg,2M0ZUgxRd6y17UjfpT0CtQ==,NL,,1491759686 120317730,120341838,2017-04-09 17:41:35,">>120341188 I often post there but many people there don't like 4pol, they find it hopeless. I go there for discussion and content and here to ""convert"" people, so to speak.",,Anonymous,ancap1.png,oik2GYzDX3Qa8zdZemTG/w==,ES,,1491759695 120317730,120341881,2017-04-09 17:41:52,">>120341223 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg someone made a very memey video with some of our content that explains the divide in libertarianism. here is an example of left libertarians spreading multicultural garbage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759712 120317730,120341931,2017-04-09 17:42:12,">>120340935 Remember when you guys did the right thing and actually let your banks fail. I wish america would have done that. They would be in much better shape right now.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491759732 120317730,120341968,2017-04-09 17:42:30,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759750 120317730,120342098,2017-04-09 17:43:19,">>120341822 Thank you, I'm tired of libertarianism being cucked by pussies who are willing to let us be trampled on.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759799 120317730,120342232,2017-04-09 17:44:12,">>120341968 euughhh...",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491759852 120317730,120342311,2017-04-09 17:44:48,">>120322278 No. They are Marxist shills and not to be trusted.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491759888 120317730,120342332,2017-04-09 17:44:57,">>120340528 Respect. I enjoy your presence on /pol/ you help keep these faggots out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491759897 120317730,120342425,2017-04-09 17:45:28,"My problem is that the discussion is just extremely. Fucking. Slow. Isn't there like, a new post there every one hour or something? I'd be willing to contribute there more if it sped up quite substantially.",,Anonymous,1491700315223-pol.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1491759928 120317730,120342517,2017-04-09 17:46:18,">>120323857 Oh it will, you sodomite. Even if it means a few commies have to die.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491759978 120317730,120342636,2017-04-09 17:47:14,">>120340055 The point is that Libertarianism has been hijacked by the left - open door immigration, forced equality, and so on is NOT what we stand for. Classical liberalism has been hijacked by Libertarian Marxists - we're here to take it back.",,Anonymous,1491760367813.jpg,WzsMVX99ZytLO62kl4GyGw==,GB,,1491760034 120317730,120342645,2017-04-09 17:47:17,">>120342425 If posting speeds up discussion is less possible because threads get maxed out faster, which happens often.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491760037 120317730,120342663,2017-04-09 17:47:22,">>120342425 See>>120341838 >tfw the CAPTCHA was helicopters",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-04-09-17-46-08.png,s7yPULSO0KeTTANvzSA68A==,US,,1491760042 120317730,120342738,2017-04-09 17:47:54,">>120342232 I'm glad you understand. This is the purpose of this thread. to form a libertarian movement that rejects Political Correctness, Multiculturalism, egalitarianism and degeneracy that is promoted alongside mainsteam libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491760074 120317730,120342855,2017-04-09 17:48:42,">>120339592 Christ doesn't really fall into any clean cut political category. The thing about Christianity, and this is what it's all about, it's not an economic system, point of view, lens, or a philosophy for people to look at something through and then discard when convenient. It's about belief that God created everything, is the source of all good and creation, and loves you. Christ was not socially liberal, He is the son of God, and the only man that lived a life free of sin. He lived during a time when people worshipped the Roman Emperor, a pantheon of bastardized greek gods, and, of course, satan(and his synagogue). >Are all the redpilled teachings hidden away for modernity's same? ""Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."" - Jesus Christ He also detested (((banks))). Look up ""Jesus whips the money-changers"" sometime. Jesus was and is not a pacifist, contrary to what the willfully blind might have you believe. The baby boomers took a look at world war 2, a war and generation they were very much never a part of, and said ""Oh, I wish there would never be conflict again! Let us never preach of righteous violence again, but let teachers paddle the asses of our children"". The boomers are a generation of hypocrites, jew-enablers, willful blindness, and peace-brokers with evil. Except, of course, you cannot make peace with evil. You can only become and convert to evil. Praise God for the internet, else the following generations might have just blindly continued the decline.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491760122 120317730,120342917,2017-04-09 17:49:10,">>120342332 Respect you you guys too. Right-libertarians and even giga-LARPer stormfaggots are 6 gorillion times better than any commie or leftylibertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491760150 120317730,120343117,2017-04-09 17:50:40,">>120342425 >not posting the superior version",,Anonymous,hoppe-looking-for-commies-niggas.png,WHmGSdMy78qsCy242BjelA==,PT,,1491760240 120317730,120343166,2017-04-09 17:50:59,>>120342917,,Anonymous,Best_Pals.png,3ldWWfoSbpbxjOAWhRyRTQ==,US,,1491760259 120317730,120343170,2017-04-09 17:51:01,">>120342663 >not using legacy captcha that constantly asks you to write ""ROAD""",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491760261 120317730,120343426,2017-04-09 17:52:57,">>120343166 >implying",,Anonymous,libertarians & neetsocs.png,NZxOU83XoQJnWKJz+ddIwg==,ES,,1491760377 120317730,120343503,2017-04-09 17:53:31,">>120341968 What the... Did the left steal libertarian and turn it into some shit. Fucking christ.",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1491760411 120317730,120343741,2017-04-09 17:55:20,">>120342425 Make sure one of these threads is up CONSTANTLY There can be no downtime.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491760520 120317730,120343910,2017-04-09 17:56:42,">tfw no free market >tfw no deflationary currency REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I hate having to work. I want to retire early REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,anarcho-capitalism.png,PbMUyVMvrobxexX8fvjI4Q==,CA,,1491760602 120317730,120343933,2017-04-09 17:56:48,">>120343503 The founding memebers of modern libertarianism published and voiced lots of points of view that would be considered heresy for the modern left and libertarians. Specially people like Rothbard, that have a fuckton of quotes that are often taken out of context by leftists and nazis to scare normies out of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,libertarianism.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,ES,,1491760608 120317730,120343996,2017-04-09 17:57:21,">>120343503 Its really bad, to the point most people who call themselves libertarians are those leftys. It saddens me to no end.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491760641 120317730,120344011,2017-04-09 17:57:26,">>120343170 I keep getting ""calle""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491760646 120317730,120344199,2017-04-09 17:59:02,">>120343741 Got it.",,Anonymous,1491742789106-pol.png,B+twT/umAuJd2sC76LdwkQ==,US,,1491760742 120317730,120344396,2017-04-09 18:00:34,">>120343426 >liebensraum >love space too lewd left-pai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491760834 120317730,120345391,2017-04-09 18:07:58,"END THE FED DO IT NOW FREE THE PEOPLE",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491761278 120317730,120345516,2017-04-09 18:08:52,">>120333877 Can you get a new invite?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491761332 120317730,120345558,2017-04-09 18:09:09,">>120327265 THICCC I T T I E S",,Anonymous,wut.gif,dztWwYbXoydi195k9WrrbQ==,US,,1491761349 120317730,120346003,2017-04-09 18:12:10,"I think I figured out why NatSoc and libertarians get along so well on /pol/. They come to the same conclusions, albeit for different reasons. For example, libertarians dislike Trump's strike on Syria because it violates the NAP and is a waste of money. NatSocs dislike the strikes because it is driven by Jewery. Anymore examples like this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491761530 120317730,120346261,2017-04-09 18:14:05,">>120340528 >Sharing threads with communist under the disguise of racism",,Anonymous,1491472117490.gif,ET9ydPG4IbTckhXeBQWYog==,US,,1491761645 120317730,120346381,2017-04-09 18:15:00,">>120323852 Migrants aren't on your property though dumbass. libertarian memes are so fucking retarded",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491761700 120317730,120346401,2017-04-09 18:15:07,Is this real?,,Anonymous,c4749768c5842fbf928c61ea0340c776.jpg,cNULXylYYthjVFKwsZ3zjQ==,CA,,1491761707 120317730,120346484,2017-04-09 18:15:42,">>120346261 Nigger, one of the reasons Hitler made the Nazi Party was to combat communism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491761742 120317730,120346608,2017-04-09 18:16:41,">>120327781 >l..look g..guys we're redpilled like you! kill commies amirite? It's cringeworthy how hard ancap fags have to try to fit in on this board.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491761801 120317730,120346744,2017-04-09 18:17:42,">>120346003 That's not news. Libertarians get along with everyone in a few things and with nobody in all. It isn't rare for a libertarian to get called a racist or fascist and a leftist/progressive in the same day. It's what happens when you have principles when nobody else does. You have rigid points of views while everyone else goes with whatever they feel like in that moment.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491761862 120317730,120346842,2017-04-09 18:18:31,">>120335386 >Yeah, monopolies are possible ONLY due to state intervention. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/natural_monopoly.asp",,Anonymous,Natural monopoly.png,pB4hqGZp98trULGAAdBR8A==,US,,1491761911 120317730,120347038,2017-04-09 18:20:00,">>120346484 Communist/Socialist Same shit to me pal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491762000 120317730,120347047,2017-04-09 18:20:03,">>120346401 no they dont have thumbs, not from apes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491762003 120317730,120347075,2017-04-09 18:20:14,">>120346003 There are many ways we overlap, but it is not universal. My only beef with NatSoc is the authoritarian welfare state. I like the take care of your own stance, in this way I am a nationalist. I just think we should take care of our own without a massive state. I wish we could work together more but I understand the libertarians argument against them.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1491762014 120317730,120347324,2017-04-09 18:22:08,">>120346608 Go back to T_D you socialist kike",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491762128 120317730,120347338,2017-04-09 18:22:14,">>120346842 Natural monopolies aren't really monopolies. Indirect competition: >OMG there's a railroad monopoly, they're gonna charge 6000000 dollars per ticket!! >people use taxis, public transportation or their own cars instead.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491762134 120317730,120347763,2017-04-09 18:25:22,">>120347338 >Trains and taxis are directly comparable",,Anonymous,man-thinking-small-e1415363287342.jpg,8cPeZIQ+EkxWibTRXbRoIw==,US,,1491762322 120317730,120347823,2017-04-09 18:25:45,">>120347075 >I wish we could work together more This is your reminder that the same whites that protested apartheid in Rhodesia and South Africa ended up killed by the blacks they loved more than their own. Those you cannot convince, no matter how hard and well you try, you would be best off ignoring and cutting off their influence from your life as best as you can.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491762345 120317730,120347831,2017-04-09 18:25:47,">>120346744 >It's what happens when you have principles when nobody else does Last time I checked you're the ones trying desperately to fit in on this board by pretending that you're racist and love killing communists, even though the former is a collectivist belief, and the second is an action that would violate the NAP. Libertarians constantly contradict themselves, it's an ideology for contrarian children who like having the ability to adapt their feigned beliefs ad hoc in order to secure a string of rhetorical victories to boost their fragile egos.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491762347 120317730,120347941,2017-04-09 18:26:40,">>120347338 Also: >public transportation >In an ancap society",,Anonymous,thinking-face.png,mhv6gLwd3GH0/CivBtm8Dw==,US,,1491762400 120317730,120348050,2017-04-09 18:27:30,">>120346381 >Migrants aren't on your property though dumbass if a group of brits that all owned property that touches and said no pakis on the grounds that they had the freedom to associate and disassociate they would go to jail for hate crimes amd migrants WOULD THEN BE ON THEIR PROPERTY ancap is the way forward for racists",,Anonymous,114184584161.png,Uwybb/4DD15bT80xMbp88A==,US,,1491762450 120317730,120348113,2017-04-09 18:28:01,">>120347831 >I enjoy being poor >I enjoy having to work much harder than I should have to >I hate economic production Sad.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491762481 120317730,120348221,2017-04-09 18:28:52,">>120318790 >bestgrill >tiddees >hippppsssss for days >snek flag MUH D I C K",,Anonymous,saves pic.jpg,uk1qeG0t7hDc11OnaVL42g==,US,,1491762532 120317730,120348294,2017-04-09 18:29:26,">>120347941 >he doesnt know private streetcar companies were banned in the 1940s >he still loves the government for restricting markets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491762566 120317730,120348520,2017-04-09 18:31:00,">>120348050 That requires the entire population to agree with it - else someone will accept migrants onto their ""property"" within the borders. Nationalism solves the problem by enforcing the national borders as containing a collective property- the nation, and so cucks wanting to accept migrants are overridden.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491762660 120317730,120348851,2017-04-09 18:33:21,">>120346744 There are principled like posititons outside of libertarianism, it's just that when libertarians talk about single issue politics, they can come off as on one side of the political spectrum exclusively. Talking about war, they sound like lefties and talking about the welfare state they sound like righties. Normies can't grasp that there's a political position outside left and right, especially in America. One of the biggest boons to libertarians is the fact that all too many of them are discussing overall philosophy, rather than what can be done right now better. Of course, when you start discussing single issue politics, you attract people who aren't interested in being libertarians, but rather what you're doing right now (Ex. NatSocs or actual Progressives). It is a pinch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491762801 120317730,120348864,2017-04-09 18:33:31,">>120347763 They are different forms of transportation. My point stands still. If a natural ""monopoly"" exists people will flock to the alternatives, so the price will be kept in check by the indirect competition. This is universally appliable. >>120347831 Cool opinions bro.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491762811 120317730,120349208,2017-04-09 18:36:11,,,Anonymous,wat.jpg,p1HiT4x0ZboAXGQKz2PqMQ==,ES,,1491762971 120317730,120349247,2017-04-09 18:36:30,">>120347763 >>120346842 >muh natural monopolies https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491762990 120317730,120350050,2017-04-09 18:42:25,">>120317730 discord for libertarian right discussion https://discord.gg/zPeVy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491763345 120317730,120350225,2017-04-09 18:43:35,How come less Americans are Libs/CLs? They're the vast majority of posters on 4chan and this board but these threads slow down in USA time.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491763415 120317730,120351103,2017-04-09 18:49:58,">>120350225 They're on the Trump train, and I don't Blame em. We're bad goys to most trumpers. Either way weekends are the best days for these threads universally.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491763798 120317730,120351106,2017-04-09 18:50:00,"Why is he so perfect bros? https://youtu.be/2SthMjUuSQ0",,Anonymous,quote-freedom-does-not-mean-that-right-to-do-whatever-we-please-but-rather-to-do-as-we-ought-fulton-j-sheen-94-3-0312.jpg,OZFWkqtBzu2EcOgXEPfaKw==,US,,1491763800 120317730,120351273,2017-04-09 18:51:12,,,Anonymous,9145f93556f9c593334bdb1f33ac4834.jpg,9FY0YMElrWjQa7tSAjy07Q==,US,,1491763872 120345423,120345423,2017-04-09 18:08:13,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Some reading: https://pastebin.com/FKTP3BCh Unofficial Discord: https://discord.gg/mna7U Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t31z2s_NZQg [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2_dPLBlvDI [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuDq88lO4M [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Comfy Sunday evening discussion edition,Anonymous,1491743572277.png,FO6ekDiFrKl7n3jCVbrZJQ==,US,,1491761293 120345423,120346065,2017-04-09 18:12:37,">>120345423 how do you tackle the idea that eventually automation will lead to welfare on a mass scale. neets living life fucking robot waifus and shit. That seems like it should happen eventually, what's your take on this? I don't have good ideas cause that seems inevitable",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491761557 120345423,120346941,2017-04-09 18:19:14,">>120346065 people have been saying that the machines will automate us for centuries, all that has happened is a rise in productivity for each individual worker. I don't really see how the next revolution will be much different",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491761954 120354475,120354475,2017-04-09 19:15:21,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Unofficial Discord: Reading: https://pastebin.com/FKTP3BCh Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t31z2s_NZQg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2_dPLBlvDI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuDq88lO4M",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Comfy Sunday evening discussion edition,Anonymous,1491743572277.png,FO6ekDiFrKl7n3jCVbrZJQ==,US,,1491765321 120354475,120354535,2017-04-09 19:15:58,">>120354475 my faggot self forgot to add the discord https://discord.gg/aMNDY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491765358 120354475,120355831,2017-04-09 19:26:44,,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1491766004 120354475,120355883,2017-04-09 19:27:11,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,US,,1491766031 120354475,120355970,2017-04-09 19:27:52,">b-but Gary Johns... Shut it you low energy fag. We ain't some retarded 420 blaze it faggots. We want liberty and the responsibility that goes with it. >b-but somalia a-and warlords ??? Gotta read that shiet https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over https://mises.org/library/anarchy-somalia Somalia is the corpse of a fucking socialist state and it's better off now than before it collapsed. >b-b-but .. ROADS ! If there's a need for roads, they're going to be built by private construction companies, payed by covenants and maintained my said construction companies. They even generate money, because it's like that parts or the road are for rent in order to set up advertisements at the sides. Or there's no need for roads, because we're the fucking gyrocopter master race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491766072 120354475,120356211,2017-04-09 19:29:46,"Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Lib-Shits need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1491766186 120354475,120356435,2017-04-09 19:31:41,">>120354475 Now, formalities out of the way, wassap homes? How are you securing a free and prosperous future for yourself?",,Anonymous,Catalog.png,5hvF3bJbCTvvznkXXm31QQ==,US,,1491766301 120354475,120356503,2017-04-09 19:32:07,">>120356211 this, libertarianism needs teeth",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491766327 120354475,120356627,2017-04-09 19:33:15,">>120356503 Thanks, we can't have our movement taken over by pussies that just want to smoke weed all day.",,Anonymous,Uncompromising.png,OAHDkrRctCEogi1tRFvE+Q==,US,,1491766395 120354475,120357197,2017-04-09 19:38:08,"Any Illinois anons here? I want to try to organize a push to get a libertarian governor in the 2018 election running on a strong anti-corruption platform. We have to stop these fucking politicians from stealing our money via graft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491766688 120354475,120357539,2017-04-09 19:41:10,">>120357197 sorry man. not an illinoisfag",,Anonymous,YouTread.png,C69VYJMTxZKQxpxbdlWT4g==,US,,1491766870 120354475,120357814,2017-04-09 19:43:29,">>120357197 illinois anon reporting in. i concur",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491767009 120354475,120358262,2017-04-09 19:47:14,,,Anonymous,FUCK_REDDIT.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1491767234 120354475,120358742,2017-04-09 19:51:02,">>120357814 How do we go about doing this? I've put some thought into it because I think we can really drive a message along the lines of: ""Illinois pays one of the highest state tax rates in the Union. What do we have to show for it? Do we have expensive and large infrastructure projects? No. Do we have incredible assistance programs? No. All we have to show for our incredible tax burdens are kick backs for the politically connected. Illinois has both the highest tax burden as well as being notoriously the most corrupt and these things two things are completely related. We have to stop the graft so we can let our people keep more of their hard earned money. Neither republicans nor democrats are exempt from this, they both have shown a long history of morbid corruption and neither will ever bother to address it."" I think we need to start trying to drive up support now, and make it known to the Libertarian Party in IL to attract a strong candidate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491767462 120354475,120358875,2017-04-09 19:52:17,What's your guys' stance on immigration?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491767537 120354475,120359204,2017-04-09 19:55:02,">>120358875 Productive noncommie degenerates only.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491767702 120354475,120359260,2017-04-09 19:55:25,">>120354475 discord expired https://discord.gg/NjFKVBf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491767725 120354475,120359595,2017-04-09 19:58:13,"The threads that start uncucked are always slow, please bump this thing.",,Anonymous,hoppe_looking_for_commies.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1491767893 120354475,120359887,2017-04-09 20:00:27,">>120359204 So even non-whites?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491768027 120354475,120360267,2017-04-09 20:03:35,">>120359887 I will accept some non-whites as long as they are productive. I will not however pander to their gibsmedat horseshit. I still favor my kin.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491768215 120354475,120360320,2017-04-09 20:04:03,">>120359595 better cuck them then >What's to stop a warlord from taking over?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491768243 120354475,120360705,2017-04-09 20:07:09,">>120360320 Is that a meme question or did you not see >>120355970 ?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491768429 120354475,120361185,2017-04-09 20:11:24,">>120359595 >p-please bump",,Anonymous,ofjebandmen.jpg,/gatz5nbBcLOaE3dq4UZsQ==,US,,1491768684 120354475,120361286,2017-04-09 20:12:10,">>120360320 >better cuck them then Yeah I'm not going to create an ""inclusive"" or ""tolerant"" environment for any shitty minority groups",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491768730 120354475,120361343,2017-04-09 20:12:45,">>120354475 bump",,Anonymous,price of goods.png,tq1mDmBSLQYEBP9Lyv1jvA==,US,,1491768765 120354475,120361489,2017-04-09 20:13:48,">>120361185 It's gotta be done. The fag libertarians like to hang in our thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491768828 120354475,120361808,2017-04-09 20:16:09,">>120355970 >We ain't some retarded 420 blaze it faggots. So does that mean you DON'T think marijuana should be legalized?",,Anonymous,thinking_man_PNG11602.png,66EjrgYcdfZZMX56zxbJbQ==,US,,1491768969 120354475,120361821,2017-04-09 20:16:14,">tfw a nazi tells you the ideal economic system is based on the labor theory of value and then claims to be ""right wing"" and ""not a communist""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491768974 120354475,120361932,2017-04-09 20:17:16,">>120360267 I hate natsoc for the socialism but can't get behind libetarianism if you can't favor ethnonationalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769036 120354475,120361962,2017-04-09 20:17:33,">>120361808 There shouldn't be a state to legalize anything. Private property, private law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769053 120354475,120362163,2017-04-09 20:19:20,,,Anonymous,16111030_1795126727417069_4022654090122100736_n.jpg,PnOx0hG41om4XGB9GIusQA==,US,,1491769160 120354475,120362199,2017-04-09 20:19:35,,,Anonymous,zFs2vbC.jpg,h5oT8JBDwfeJzATN12TxYA==,US,,1491769175 120354475,120362220,2017-04-09 20:19:45,">>120361962 I don't believe a stateless society is even possible, a least not in the context of a modern nation with a large population and a half-way decent economy.",,Anonymous,Thinking-Man.jpg,d2vE40l7ZSecVPjwf68aRQ==,US,,1491769185 120354475,120362221,2017-04-09 20:19:46,,,Anonymous,5cd22eefc81cdcac6a0329ca37142adb64fe32978b2b5f7d399ee0a994f8b5b5.jpg,TGesHZITwExkezCXiXWkMg==,US,,1491769186 120354475,120362388,2017-04-09 20:20:54,">>120361932 Historical ethno states accept other ethnic groups into their countries. Do some research on the Jews that served in Hitler's regime. Or don't accept shitskins into your community, either way I don't care what you do if it doesn't harm me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769254 120354475,120362515,2017-04-09 20:21:47,">>120354535 Can I get a new link? That ones expired",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769307 120354475,120362651,2017-04-09 20:23:01,">>120359887 Preferably whites only. Blacks have a lower average IQ and will never really be a positive force",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769381 120354475,120362731,2017-04-09 20:23:37,">>120362199 >Shilling for commies Fuck off. >>120362220 Think of it as decentralized. Like a Confederacy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769417 120354475,120362779,2017-04-09 20:24:00,">>120358742 I totally agree with what you said here. I don't know have a fucking clue with what we can do to drive up actual support other than showing the corruption and why libertarian is the way to go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769440 120354475,120362835,2017-04-09 20:24:27,">>120361932 I don't think any proper right libertarian would have a problem with ethnonationalism, they just don't think it's 100% optimal. Feel free to form an ethnonationalist convent and prove them wrong",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491769467 120354475,120362866,2017-04-09 20:24:46,">>120362220 Libertarianism != stateless. The state still exists to enforce the NAP and run the military",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769486 120354475,120363140,2017-04-09 20:27:01,">>120362866 Oh really? Because usually when I invade these threads, people tell me that having ANY sort of government is equivalent to living in the USSR.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769621 120354475,120363191,2017-04-09 20:27:27,">>120362163 >>120362199 Your criticisms are actually correct. People are naturally corruptible because human nature isn't good or evil, its programmable. And in relation to your second meme, yes money is ultimately a foreign subversive control mechanism to classify and weed, groom, and breed psychopaths for the elite to continue rule through the centuries. I think while your criticisms are heeded, they are NOTHING compared to what kind of evil is happening in the world at the moment BECAUSE we support institutional authority (behind the scenes sacrifice, child rape, dismembering, blood drinking, cannibalism, mass blood letting rituals, etc.). There is just too much going on that we don't know about. What we do know about is bad enough already... all the loss in purchasing power, we don't even follow the constitution man, bad immigration policies. The constitution is supposed to be a reflection of the Natural Moral Objective Laws of the Creator that man has inherited the ability to understand because of his neo-cortex. You're right, but that surely doesn't justify the other dialectic, Satanism, or Moral Relativity.",,Anonymous,natural law.png,bMyD1/Vns0LnnY8rdYr2lA==,US,,1491769647 120354475,120363254,2017-04-09 20:27:57,Btw I love how American this thread is. Even the shills are American,,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1491769677 120354475,120363369,2017-04-09 20:28:50,">>120354475 What's a libertarian method of making this happen?",,Anonymous,1491778683459.jpg,JC1xKAFejBclQmTdVjQWdQ==,US,,1491769730 120354475,120363534,2017-04-09 20:30:19,">>120363140 Libertarians differ on the state, and we have left libertarian cucks latching onto our thread everyday. I consider myself an Anarcho Capitalist, but I understand using the state to acheive a libertarian society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491769819 120354475,120363908,2017-04-09 20:33:00,>>120361185,,Anonymous,1466358478599.jpg,O+UE12Jjj7SduTqyEZ9BDA==,CA,,1491769980 120354475,120364238,2017-04-09 20:35:43,">>120363254 You left out >without a government, how will I know that fucking dogs and doing heroin is bad?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491770143 120354475,120364624,2017-04-09 20:38:56,">>120364238 kek I forgot the ""who will stop me from sucking dicks?"" poster. Will add it in.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491770336 120354475,120365866,2017-04-09 20:48:07,">>120363254 >no 'no roads' i am dissapoint",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491770887 120354475,120365970,2017-04-09 20:48:46,Who else /Minarchism/ ?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491770926 120354475,120366328,2017-04-09 20:51:28,">>120365970 If people can get together and form courts and police, why can't they get together and form a dam? Or a road? Or any other institution? Minarchism is logically fallacious, but I'll readily admit you're almost there. You just haven't come across Natural Law yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491771088 120354475,120366329,2017-04-09 20:51:28,">>120365970 Pragmatically I'd say so, but its all about the endgame libertarian society for me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491771088 120354475,120367514,2017-04-09 21:00:57,">>120354475 >no milton friedman reading list",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491771657 120354475,120368095,2017-04-09 21:05:35,">>120367514 Make one and I will add it. I make a lot of content in these threads. But I can't make everything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491771935 120354475,120368303,2017-04-09 21:07:18,">>120365970 Me. I also want constitutional bans on communist/socialist/social democratic political parties running.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491772038 120354475,120368349,2017-04-09 21:07:38,">>120367514 >>no milton friedman reading list He was a commie faggot who supported central banking.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491772058 120354475,120369878,2017-04-09 21:21:09,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1491772869 120354475,120370037,2017-04-09 21:22:28,">>120356627 >>120356503 >Libertarians need teeth Sure, but you guys don't know how to provide that besides aping the alt-right buzzwords. You idiots look at how libertarians are portrayed on the internet and think it's 1:1 with the public perception. This isn't true. So the Internet thinks Libertarians are liberals who REALLY want to smoke pot and only support the various freedoms Libertarians endorse because this allows cringeworthy or selfish behavior. Meanwhile, to the public, if they even know about Libertarians, think they are so far up their own ass that they are better ignored than engaged. So there's never a discussion, learning or growth. Not because of the libertarian belief system, no but because Libertarians have always acted like the atheists of politics. Quick to condescend, quick to make flippant remarks or barely restrain their smug superiority. Libertarians are already known as selfish assholes. Acting like more of an asshole is not going to swell the ranks, it's just gonna drive the normies away. And I'm sorry, but if you want your libertarian paradise you need to convince the normies. So yeah, be educated, be proactive, defend your politics and challenge others. Do it with strength and gusto. Please, please just cut out the >sit down motherfucker fags, sit down and let me drop fucking libertarian truth fucking epic bomb. Find your own niche don't be the alt right lite, it detracts from some of the wonderful sources that are present in the OP. Also, before anyone says, being an unrepentant asshole worked for Donald Trump; you're no Donald Trump. The libertarians have no Trump. The closest thing is Austin Petersen and he's a medium talent troll. There's a time and place to be an asshole. Making it your ""sthick"" isn't going to help the cause.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491772948 120354475,120371123,2017-04-09 21:31:21,"I agree with Rothbard and Hoppe that libertarianism is a right wing movement, and that our leftist elements are useful idiots at best, and a cancer that can only be cured by one way helicopter rides at the far more likely worst. We're not ""stealing your memes, bro."" We are true /pol/acks and we belong to this culture. I have no issue with you. Deal with it.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1491773481 120354475,120371769,2017-04-09 21:37:39,">>120366328 I quite like Nozick's defence of some state functions: a state is at least required to defend natural rights, something that isn't a requirement in something like a private dispute resolution service as opposed to a court",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491773859 120354475,120372371,2017-04-09 21:42:53,">Communists or democrats? >In my libertarian social order? >So to speak. >FREE PHYSICAL REMOVAL i need this meme tbf",,Anonymous,Pornography_on_my_computer.jpg,TSL9/XEv/XWAhltXRodUYg==,GB,,1491774173 120354475,120372475,2017-04-09 21:43:41,"Daily reminder, you're not a libertarian if you don't support the space elevator. It's the only way to end taxation, and taxation is theft.",,Anonymous,1776.jpg,gnFIx6o8E+bfmSAVInyixQ==,US,,1491774221 120354475,120372747,2017-04-09 21:45:44,">>120370037 What you see here is genuine. Our movement has been invaded by leftist kikes that interpret non aggression poorly and pervert it to a leftist Utopian fairy tale. I refuse to let such a noble cause to go down in history as the garbage it is presented as today.",,Anonymous,Nihlo_Libertarians.png,Yso4rX1v3DGTx0t8FlJYZQ==,US,,1491774344 120354475,120372866,2017-04-09 21:46:54,"How are we going to create a libertarian social order? The only way I can think of is buy a lot of property in a remote state and raise a large family instilled with the values of liberty, and then they go out and repeat the process.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491774414 120354475,120373098,2017-04-09 21:48:51,">>120372747 You don't like Jews either? We should form a covenant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491774531 120354475,120373458,2017-04-09 21:51:42,">>120373098 No fuck Jews. I like rothbard, but he's dead so don't worry about him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491774702 120354475,120373855,2017-04-09 21:54:53,">>120372866 Yeah own land away from the city. Aside from property tax you're now living in a libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491774893 120354475,120374648,2017-04-09 22:01:18,">>120362163 Libertarian society does not preclude the idea of contracts. It would, instead, become financially infeasible to try and operate as someone who plays fast and loose with someone else. Corporations would not be able to guarantee that investors would be financially insulated from any risk associated with owning part of the company, and criminals would instead be stuck working off the value of whatever they, say, happened to steal. The problem is that this would most likely lead to a situation where by humans all live in some version of a gated community. Think of modern trends in the US where people demand to live in a community that perfectly reflects their values, and give it crack. >>120362199 You can make use of something without agreeing with the underlying principals it represents. Otherwise you're suggesting prisoners who consume prison provided food agree with their prison sentences, or that every tax paying citizen agrees with any war the government is involved in. In the case of roads, you don't really have a choice; failure to pay taxes would obliterate your credit score and the IRS has the right to completely ass ram you for it too. You may make use of them, and pay for them, but it doesn't mean you have to like the system. Phones on the other hand? You have a right to some leeway. Buy an older, used phone, use your phone well past the point where you cellphone company tries to get you to step up to the latest model. >>120362866 ...and the enforcement of contracts. Libertarian states recognize the need for government but refuse to allow any organ of it to be remotely corruptible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491775278 120354475,120375720,2017-04-09 22:10:06,">>120372747 yeah, you only think that because you're in the internet sphere and not the public one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491775806 120354475,120376654,2017-04-09 22:17:32,bump,,Anonymous,1491690872199.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,GB,,1491776252 120354475,120376753,2017-04-09 22:18:23,">>120375720 Do you know where you are? How many layers or role playing are you on right now? On a more serious note, what part of any of those images are Libertarians being smug or assholes? The images seem to advocate for standing up for your true values. Sorry if that's not a popular opinion but libertarianism is more about sticking to your principles than dumbing them down for normies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491776303 120354475,120376844,2017-04-09 22:19:04,What are the benefits of AnCap or Hoppean Lib over NatSoc?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491776344 120354475,120377268,2017-04-09 22:22:33,">>120376844 There is no single point of failure in an libertarian society. All the (((enemy))) has to do to beat NatSoc is subvert the leader. A libertarian society is also more moral than a NatSoc one. The only justification for NatSoc is basically the ends justify the means.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491776553 120354475,120377509,2017-04-09 22:24:23,">>120376844 >What are the benefits of AnCap or Hoppean Lib over NatSoc? Higher levels of production. Having to work much less harder. Much more leisure time to spend with your family. Freedom Guns Fun things",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491776663 120354475,120377624,2017-04-09 22:25:18,">>120354475 >>120374253",,Anonymous,1481582014820.png,aMbqLMm31s0iTtR28Mx1jQ==,LV,,1491776718 120354475,120377951,2017-04-09 22:27:43,"It really is peculiar that the U.S has so many libertarians. It's like they fell in love with the image of America and not America itself. The U.S has literally never had the kind of free trade libertarians talk about and for almost all of it's history has had varying degrees of protectionism and high tariffs, even across state lines.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491776863 120354475,120378598,2017-04-09 22:33:03,">>120377951 They would have been much better without these tarriffs",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491777183 120354475,120379222,2017-04-09 22:38:28,">>120377951 There is more to libertarianism than free trade.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491777508 120354475,120379569,2017-04-09 22:41:29,">>120377951 America in 1880-1910 was a pretty special time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491777689 120354475,120380660,2017-04-09 22:50:59,">>120379569 Careful what you wish for. The Gilded Age was only good for 5% of population. The rest lived in poverty and social issues were rampant.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491778259 120354475,120382140,2017-04-09 23:02:35,">>120380660 >Careful what you wish for. The Gilded Age was only good for 5% of population. The rest lived in poverty and social issues were rampant. Kill yourself the gilded age dramatically increase living standards for the working class wages rose while prices fell every year obviously they werent as economically productive as today but they were far far far better than EVERYTHING that came before it we need to go back to gilded age laws",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491778955 120354475,120382275,2017-04-09 23:03:36,">>120380660 I think that was more to do with the industrial revolution and mass immigration than the free market. Most of the bad things that happened in that time were literally due to the government and big corporations being in cahoots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491779016 120354475,120382430,2017-04-09 23:04:55,">>120354475 why?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491779095 120354475,120382586,2017-04-09 23:06:03,">>120354475 anon are u ready for Bizzrkeley next week? its time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491779163 120354475,120383740,2017-04-09 23:15:02,">>120382140 >the gilded age dramatically increase living standards for the working class So what? Economic inequality and poverty are still huge problems. I mean, economic inequality is literally the best marker for how much crime a society has.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491779702 120354475,120384096,2017-04-09 23:18:01,">>120383740 >Economic inequality lmao this means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and people who use the inequality argument are simply delusional and extremely confused The congo has the least amount of income inequality, do you want to go there? >I mean, economic inequality is literally the best marker for how much crime a society has. No it's not lol.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491779881 120354475,120384520,2017-04-09 23:21:54,">>120380660 You've fallen hard for the leftist propaganda. They love to portray the Gilded Age as an era of abject poverty and misery, so they can paint the elitist progressives like Wilson and Roosevelt as the knights in shining armor who saved the people from ""robber barons"". Utter bullshit. In reality, the Gilded Age was marked by an enormous increase in the quality of life for all, absolutely unparalleled in the decades since. Individuals, from the poorest miner to the richest entrepreneur, enjoyed a rate of increase in real wages QUADRUPLE of what we have today. Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=ot2nTzyw7v8C&pg=PA237&dq=gilded+age+real+wages+growth&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjPx_KA95jTAhUn_IMKHdlKDcUQ6AEIKjAB#v=onepage&q=gilded%20age%20real%20wages%20growth&f=false >tl;dr lassiez-faire is good",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491780114 120354475,120385136,2017-04-09 23:26:59,">>120384096 >No it's not lol. Yes it is. The higher a country's Gini coefficient the more murder it has. It's literally one of the most well researched and well-documented correlations in all of sociology and economics.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491780419 120354475,120386186,2017-04-09 23:35:36,">>120385136 >The higher a country's Gini coefficient the more murder it has. Correlation does not equal causation. The idea that these things are correlated is absolutely retarded. According to your logic, the congo should have the lowest murder rate. Also Japan has high income inequality, so does Switzerland. They've got extremely low murder rates. >It's literally one of the most well researched and well-documented correlations in all of sociology and economics. This statement is hilariously flawed and you're a useful idiot for believing it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491780936 120354475,120386639,2017-04-09 23:39:33,">>120386186 So, what is the cause of the insane numbers of murders in a country like the U.S then? People just like to kill each other in America?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491781173 120354475,120387421,2017-04-09 23:46:10,">>120386639 >So, what is the cause of the insane numbers of murders in a country like the U.S then? Several other factors? Mainly blacks. Income inequality isn't a good measure of living standards for the working class. It's pretty useless.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491781570 120354475,120387673,2017-04-09 23:48:16,">>120387421 >Mainly blacks. Yeah and blacks as a group are poorer than whites and Asians in the U.S, hence inequality.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491781696 120354475,120387723,2017-04-09 23:48:49,">>120383740 >So what? Economic inequality and poverty are still huge problems. To say ""so what?"" to the fact that the same people you claim to defend had their living standards heavily increased is ridiculous. A lot of claims and myths regarding the Gilded Age are simply false or misleading, like the Standard Oil meme. If what you and the left say about the Gilded Age were true, how do you reconcile that with the fact that the US at the time experienced an unprecedented amount of immigration from all over the world? Do people go out of their way to move to countries where they will be stomped on by the elite?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491781729 120354475,120388105,2017-04-09 23:51:59,">>120387723 What exactly is false and misleading about the fact that for most of the Gilded Age, there was abundant child labor and there was no 8 hour work day? I'm not denying the economic progress, but what kind of cost are you willing to produce? I mean, slavery would also be extremely efficient. You just have to pay them for food and shelter, and you can literally work them till death.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491781919 120354475,120388210,2017-04-09 23:52:55,">>120388105 at what kind of social cost are you willing to increase production*, I meant to say.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491781975 120354475,120388646,2017-04-09 23:56:34,">>120387673 Blacks are poorer than Whites because they have a lower IQ.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491782194 120354475,120388699,2017-04-09 23:57:02,">>120380660 Also, this post is dishonest by omission. Was the time period before the Gilded Age more prosperous? >social issues were rampant Could that be because right before the Gilded Age, the United States ended a Civil War?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491782222 120354475,120388711,2017-04-09 23:57:10,">>120388210 Social unrest. Like in trance, the young man went into the changing room of the production complex and absently opened the baggy sheet door of his spint. ..Dismissal"" - this word sounded like the cut of a razor in the ear of each listener in this time. It was related to the word ..liquidation"", because it was the destruction of the social existence. Being dismissed meant to get no more Globes, as the international currency was called since the year 2018. If Frank would not find a new employment as soon as possible, he could lose his apartment, his food and finally also his life. Any social security, warranted by the state, had completely been abolished since the total collapse of world economy in winter 2012/13. And it was more than difficult, to find work in a time, in which the industrial production in old Central and Western Europe had mostly been outsourced to the Third World. Therefore, millions of Europeans tried to survive by doing extremly bad paid jobs in this dark present. They had nothing to lose, so they were glad about every breadline wage they could get. Those, who were not able to find a possibility to earn some money in any way, ended as beggars and homeless people, hanging around under bridges or in vacant house ruins.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1491782230 120354475,120388988,2017-04-09 23:59:35,">>120387673 >Yeah and blacks as a group are poorer than whites and Asians in the U.S, hence inequality. >poverty is the reason black people kill people Do you REALLY want to start up this discussion again, on /pol/ of all places?",,Anonymous,1454898799435.jpg,tFAi2IGrmDNCucjabejuUA==,CA,,1491782375 120354475,120389128,2017-04-10 00:00:54,">>120388105 >there was abundant child labor and there was no 8 hour work day? That was a reality for ALL of human history. As much as these conditioned sucked, they were far far better than other conditions. Do you think the government could have magically ended child labour when society was so poor that children HAD to work? Child labour was a fact of reality for all of human history.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491782454 120354475,120389376,2017-04-10 00:03:18,">>120388988 I didn't say poverty is the reason. I said economic inequality is the reason. Being poor doesn't make you into a criminal. However, if you cannot climb the dominant social hierarchy legitimately, you will create social hierarchies you can climb and earn respect in yourself(e.g gangs).",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491782598 120354475,120389390,2017-04-10 00:03:27,">>120388105 Before the Gilded Age there was more child labor. What made it politically possible to ban it was the large increase of productivity in the private sector that made it so families (most) could survive without having their children work. In short, the government took the credit for eliminating child labor, when it was already on a course for removal. Not to mention that, when child labor was banned, it resulted in a lot of children just lying about their age to secure jobs because you and your moral superiors made it illegal for him to work and provide for his poorer family. >no 8 hour work week Again, compare that to the time period beforehand, where you would have to work all day long on farms. Second, our standard of living had not reached a level where 8 hour work days would work. >I mean, slavery would also be extremely efficient. You just have to pay them for food and shelter, and you can literally work them till death. Slavery isn't efficient though. The only one arguing for slavery here is you, but with the government as the slave owner.",,Anonymous,1454149115396.png,SKBAcGKh8UKmHSv12iA3fw==,US,,1491782607 120354475,120389607,2017-04-10 00:05:33,">>120389128 >Do you think the government could have magically ended child labour when society was so poor that children HAD to work? Sure they could. It would just mean that you had to sacrifice a small amount of GDP growth a year.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491782733 120354475,120389881,2017-04-10 00:08:00,">>120389607 >sacrifice GDP No, let's be honest when we're describing what would be sacrificed. What would be sacrificed would be poorer families who needed their children to work. Can you even claim moral superiority on the subject of child labor when you are willing to tell a minor to their face that they are not allowed to provide for their family?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491782880 120354475,120390098,2017-04-10 00:09:36,">>120389376 You literally said they're poorer than other groups and that's the reason they are violent.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491782976 120354475,120390209,2017-04-10 00:10:21,">>120389881 >How can you even claim moral superiority on the subject of slavery when you're willing to tell a slave to their face that they are not allowed to provide for their massa? This is literally what you sound like. Children shouldn't work in coal mines. Deal with it you sociopath.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491783021 120354475,120390291,2017-04-10 00:10:58,">>120389607 >Sure they could hahahah holy fuck this economic illiterate >a small amount of GDP growth a year. Meaning these families would be much poorer and on TOP of that need to support children with much less resources children worked for a reason, idiot",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491783058 120354475,120390362,2017-04-10 00:11:29,">>120354535 >>120362515 Can we maybe get a fuggin link please.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491783089 120354475,120390505,2017-04-10 00:12:46,">>120390209 >Children shouldn't work in coal mines. >Deal with it you sociopath. Ahhhh, I used to be young a naive economic illiterate like you. We think that children working in coal mines is a bad thing, but if the alternative is 10 times worse than I'll absolutely want to allow them to work in coal mines. When child labour laws were introduced in third world nations, the children either starved to death or went into prostitution.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491783166 120354475,120390576,2017-04-10 00:13:27,">>120390098 >You literally said they're poorer than other groups and that's the reason they are violent. Yes, poorer THAN OTHER GROUPS, e.g inequality. If you constantly see people with another skin tone than your own driving around in expensive cars and living a life of material wealth, and only see people with your own skin tone living in poverty, this does something to your psyche.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491783207 120354475,120390664,2017-04-10 00:14:14,">>120390505 >but if the alternative is 10 times worse than I'll absolutely want to allow them to work in coal mines. The alternative is never 10 times worse, but keep rationalizing your lack of empathy.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491783254 120354475,120390829,2017-04-10 00:15:53,">>120390664 >The alternative is never 10 times worse Death and child prostitution isn't worse? Really makes you think.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491783353 120354475,120390857,2017-04-10 00:16:10,">>120390209 Who is the slave? In a market economy you don't have to work without your consent, even if you signed a contract to work, it can't be used to force labor, only to extract compensation at the most. The only one forcing anyone to do anything is you. The fact is that scarcity exists in this world, there is not enough resources for everyone to live without work. Productivity directly correlates with standards of living in a market economy. To hurt productivity so you can feel good about yourself(because it's not as if you're poor and looking for work) is to engage in hypocrisy. You're helping no one but your ego.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491783370 120354475,120391120,2017-04-10 00:18:43,">>120390576 >Yes, poorer THAN OTHER GROUPS, e.g inequality. Okay, so now it IS about poverty again. Okay how about this. Lets say society as a whole was much more richer. Meaning everyone got 10 dollars an hour more an hour and the unemployment rate was really low. BUT there was the same exact level of income inequality. There would be less murders obviously right? The poverty problem would be much less of a problem. So I guess it's not income inequality but POVERTY in general. Would you not agree? >If you constantly see people with another skin tone than your own driving around in expensive cars and living a life of material wealth, and only see people with your own skin tone living in poverty, this does something to your psyche. Then why wasn't this a problem for every other race that came to america. Why wasn't it a problem for asian people? They're actually doing BETTER than whites in america.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491783523 120354475,120391139,2017-04-10 00:18:53,">>120362199 >the state built these things with my stolen money >I shouldn't be able to use them if I don't tolerate the theif",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491783533 120354475,120391277,2017-04-10 00:20:09,">>120390857 >To hurt productivity so you can feel good about yourself I mean, how retarded are you actually? The fact that anyone is paid more than the cost of them eating and sleeping in a warm room hurts production you moron.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491783609 120354475,120391316,2017-04-10 00:20:32,">massive surge in libertarian beliefs and ancapism >trump's existence just fueling the left's desire to remove government power why is 2017 so great?",,Anonymous,ancap.png,6Xg29CggiZiKUSgeEBOU1g==,US,,1491783632 120354475,120391414,2017-04-10 00:21:29,">>120391316 I don't know but I'm really fucking happy. We need a free market fast. We need to end all central banks and free ourselves. People don't understand how important this is.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491783689 120354475,120391587,2017-04-10 00:23:06,">>120391120 >Okay, so now it IS about poverty again. Well, it is about relative poverty, but not absolute poverty, which is a legitimate economic distinction. Absolute poverty does not correlate with crime at all, but relative poverty does. >Then why wasn't this a problem for every other race that came to america. Well it was a problem. And it's not like whites don't commit crime and murder in America. They do commit more murders than blacks, blacks just commit more murders as a percentage of population.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491783786 120354475,120391599,2017-04-10 00:23:10,">>120391277 >The fact that anyone is paid more than the cost of them eating and sleeping in a warm room hurts production you moron. Not at all, if an employer did not offer me enough money to justify me working for him I wouldn't work there. >>120391316 No, warmongering is only wrong when republicans do it according to democrats",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491783790 120354475,120391854,2017-04-10 00:25:34,">>120391316 >left's desire to remove government power I don't think they'd even vote to affirm reductions of governmental power.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491783934 120354475,120391990,2017-04-10 00:26:53,">>120391587 >Well, it is about relative poverty Ohhhh. So absolute poverty doesn't matter. So places with absolute poverty like africa aren't crime ridden? >Absolute poverty does not correlate with crime at all, but relative poverty does. lol no it doesn't Also I just proved to you that if a nation is rich as a whole income inequality doesn't matter and you IGNORED IT >Well it was a problem. No it wasn't. Not for asian americans and indian americans. They aren't violent. >And it's not like whites don't commit crime and murder in America. Whites are the majority. What are you talking about? You're losing focus. >blacks just commit more murders as a percentage of population. No shit, that's the more important figure.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491784013 120354475,120392085,2017-04-10 00:27:39,">>120391599 >Not at all, if an employer did not offer me enough money to justify me working for him I wouldn't work there. Which has literally nothing to do with what I said. You said I want to hurt production to satisfy my ego, and I am saying that anything more than you being a filthy wage slave who earns just enough to stay alive and sleep comfortably(and perhaps not even that), also hurts production. So it's just a fucking retarded argument, and you should feel bad.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491784059 120354475,120392388,2017-04-10 00:30:19,">>120391990 >So places with absolute poverty like africa aren't crime ridden? Well places like Africa also usually have 5 kingpins who are worth millions of dollars in a country where drinking water is dangerous and 50% of the population is starving.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491784219 120354475,120392607,2017-04-10 00:32:35,">>120392388 I agree that african governments are extremely corrupt and that's the main reason they're poor. But are you actually saying poverty is the sole reason africans are violent? You're saying it's not a racial issue? It clearly is. Other countries were just as poor in the past and not nearly as violent. I destroyed you on the other points I made about income inequality anyway.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491784355 120354475,120392815,2017-04-10 00:34:27,">>120392607 I am saying that inequality BETWEEN PEOPLE IN A COUNTRY is one of the biggest contributors to crime and violence.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491784467 120354475,120392911,2017-04-10 00:35:21,">>120392815 >I am saying that inequality BETWEEN PEOPLE IN A COUNTRY is one of the biggest contributors to crime and violence. HAHAHAHA What the fuck? So jealously is the MAIN REASON people are violent? What you are saying is unscientific in the very least holy shit.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491784521 120354475,120393129,2017-04-10 00:37:42,">>120392085 >Which has literally nothing to do with what I said. It has everything to do with what you just said. The underlying principles I just outlined in that last post evaded you due to your ignorance of economics. >You said I want to hurt production to satisfy my ego, and I am saying that anything more than you being a filthy wage slave who earns just enough to stay alive and sleep comfortably(and perhaps not even that), also hurts production. But this is wrong. For starters, the idea that people live in cabins barely getting enough food to survive on while sleeping on the floor is ludicrous. The point I was trying to make in the last post was that employers have to compete amongst themselves for employees, and they do so by increasing wages and offering more benefits to potential employees. Next to nobody would accept a job that only paid $4 an hour.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491784662 120354475,120393146,2017-04-10 00:37:49,">>120392085 Just so you know, if the capitalists back then gave all of their money to the workers it wouldn't make the workers better off. The working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods. Just giving the working class more money without increasing production will simply create massive inflation and nobody will be better off.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491784669 120354475,120393282,2017-04-10 00:39:08,">>120392911 Seriously dude. Educate yourself on national economics and sociology. You're just an ideologue. http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/violence/4th_milestones_meeting/marmot.pdf Page 15 and beyond. Have fun.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491784748 120354475,120393549,2017-04-10 00:42:11,">>120393282 >using who as an legit source >using an extremely biased left wing organization as a source pathetic You're actually claiming jealously is the number one cause of violence. Just think about how dumb that is for a second. Most people in africa don't even know or care about the scumbags running their country. They aren't going around killing and looting people because they're jealous of how much money the political class has. They're doing it because a: they're POOR b: they're black",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491784931 120354475,120393557,2017-04-10 00:42:16,">>120392085 Also, you ignored my question I asked you. Who is the slave you were talking about? How is it slavery to voluntarily work for an employer who pays you, but not slavery to have the fruits of your labor then stolen from you by force?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491784936 120354475,120393651,2017-04-10 00:43:14,">>120393129 >The point I was trying to make in the last post was that employers have to compete amongst themselves for employees, and they do so by increasing wages and offering more benefits to potential employees. Next to nobody would accept a job that only paid $4 an hour. The point is, you ignorant mongoloid, that the capitalist has literally ALL the power. If every single private enterprise in the U.S decided to pay their employees 4 dollars and hour, what exactly could you do about it? Literally nothing.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491784994 120354475,120393961,2017-04-10 00:46:06,">>120393651 >that the capitalist has literally ALL the power. LOL THIS ISN'T TRUE WHATSOEVER AHAHAHAHAHA I have every right not to work for the capitalist. Why would I choose to work for someone that pays shit wages? The capitalist wants my labour, he has to raise the wage to what the labour market demands. If what you are saying is true, then every single capitalist in america would be paying their workers minimum fucking wage. You're wrong, deal with it. >If every single private enterprise in the U.S decided to pay their employees 4 dollars and hour They have every right to pay them minimum wage and yet they DON'T. Boy I remember when I was this ignorant.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491785166 120354475,120393963,2017-04-10 00:46:07,">>120393549 You're just shitposting at this point. I am arguing with you fairly, and I even supplied a source which is by any estimate credible, and your only reply is ""lol blacks are subhuman"". Grow the fuck up Leaf.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491785167 120354475,120394111,2017-04-10 00:47:26,">>120393961 >and yet they DON'T. Which is good for your sake, because they could do it, and there would be nothing you could do about it.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491785246 120354475,120394265,2017-04-10 00:48:39,">>120393963 >and I even supplied a source an extremely biased source? The argument makes absolutely no sense from a logical standpoint. also I provided many examples of you being wrong and you ignored them >Grow the fuck up Leaf. Based on your economic ignorance I can tell you're probably 15. Ahhhh I remember this ignorant age.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491785319 120354475,120394461,2017-04-10 00:50:17,">>120394111 >Which is good for your sake, because they could do it, and there would be nothing you could do about it. But they don't and they PHYSICALLY CANNOT because nobody would work for them. lol Try to start a construction firm and pay your workers minimum wage. I can guarantee you NOBODY is going to work for you. I just proved you wrong. Can't you just admit you were wrong like an adult.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491785417 120354475,120394667,2017-04-10 00:52:06,">>120393651 >The point is, you ignorant mongoloid, that the capitalist has literally ALL the power. Ironically, the only power the capitalist truly has over the consumer and worker is power granted to them by government. >If every single private enterprise in the U.S decided to pay their employees 4 dollars and hour This is a faulty premise. Only 3% of all hourly workers in the United States work the federal minimum wage. Are you telling me that the capitalists (whom you have described as evil and power hungry) voluntarily pay workers higher wages out of the kindness of their hearts? No, the reason they pay their workers more is because they have to compete for labor. If I'm a business owner and I want to make money, I'll need employees. If I want to guarantee that I get employees and make money, I will need to raise wages to attract workers to my job. And other employers will do the same, forcing wages to be paid at around what the labor is worth. Take for instance an auction on a $1 bill for $0.60. It is to everyone's benefit to try and win at the low price, but because everyone at the auction keeps bidding higher, it will result in the price being around what the dollar is actually worth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491785526 120354475,120394757,2017-04-10 00:52:55,">>120394265 >an extremely biased source? How is WHO an ""extremely biased source""? And besides, why does that make them wrong? Do you think people who have political bias can never ever tell the truth? Because in that case, I guess you're a liar then.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491785575 120354475,120394908,2017-04-10 00:54:17,">>120394757 >How is WHO an ""extremely biased source""? Leftist globalist organization. >And besides, why does that make them wrong? They manipulate data, or draw false conclusions from the data. Anyway I already proved you wrong using examples and logic and you have yet to refute me. I'm not reading some report that makes wild and crazy illogical claims.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491785657 120354475,120395177,2017-04-10 00:56:58,">>120394667 >Are you telling me that the capitalists (whom you have described as evil and power hungry) voluntarily pay workers higher wages out of the kindness of their hearts? I never described them as evil and power hungry, and what I am saying is that in the world that you guys want, the world of laissez-faire capitalism, working wages could be brought down to a level of subsistence. And there's really nothing you could do about it. I mean, I get that you guys are smug, and simply think that coal miners could've just quit their job in 1920 and got a job with 1000% higher pay next door, but the reality didn't look like that unfortunately.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491785818 120354475,120395316,2017-04-10 00:58:17,">>120394908 >Anyway I already proved you wrong using examples and logic Not really. You've just been whining about non-credible sources and admitting that you're racist. I mean, I guess it doesn't surprise me that libertarians are both paranoid and racist.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491785897 120354475,120395571,2017-04-10 01:00:54,">>120395177 Make an argument why don't you. If capitalists can just lower wages to the absolute minimum and there's nothing I can do about it, why don't they, especially when we have an objective minimum right now. I doubt you can answer this without contradicting yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491786054 120354475,120395599,2017-04-10 01:01:06,">>120395177 >I never described them as evil and power hungry, and what I am saying is that in the world that you guys want, the world of laissez-faire capitalism, working wages could be brought down to a level of subsistence. kek We already proved this wrong using immutable logic and data from the real world. There's currently no law that says capitalists have to pay their worker the high wages they do now. Why don't they all pay their workers minimum wage? What is the reason? Could it be that you are dead wrong? Answer the question instead of ignoring it. >and simply think that coal miners could've just quit their job in 1920 and got a job with 1000% higher pay next door Nowhere did we ever say this. But coal miners then certainly got paid more than they did in 1880. You still couldn't refute this post here: >>120393146 It pretty much destroys what you are saying. I doubt you'll even address it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491786066 120354475,120395658,2017-04-10 01:01:38,">>120395571 >what I am saying is that in the world that you guys want, the world of laissez-faire capitalism",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491786098 120354475,120395763,2017-04-10 01:02:49,">>120395316 >Not really. But I literally did and you couldn't refute the argument I made about africa. >jealousy over money is the main reason people are violent This is highly unscientific and makes no sense. >non-credible sources Because it is. >racist. Do you know which board you're on? There's literally nothing wrong with being a race realist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491786169 120354475,120396019,2017-04-10 01:05:16,">>120395658 Then why aren't they. I already pointed out that only 3% of hourly paid workers get the minimum wage. Do you not know what a minimum wage is? It's an artificial price floor on labor that employers cannot pay under. Only 3% of workers make that wage. So something you said is obviously not true. I'm glad you're not a voter here. Goodnight Norway.",,Anonymous,1435047929838.jpg,9LM80JqTT1d+PN2dZVabsQ==,US,,1491786316 120354475,120396100,2017-04-10 01:06:07,">>120395599 >There's currently no law that says capitalists have to pay their worker the high wages they do now. Well they can, can't they? I mean, I can repeat the earlier part of our conversation, e.g the part where you said that I want to hurt production to satisfy my ego. Well so do you. You obviously want to bleed the capitalist dry. Perhaps you should offer to work for him for federal minimum wage next time you need a job, after all if you don't, you are hurting production.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491786367 120354475,120396120,2017-04-10 01:06:22,">>120395658 LOL Dude Do you honestly not understand this? There is already laissez-faire capitalism in the labour market for wage rates (besides the minimum wage). What part of there's no law and nothing stopping these capitalists from doing this now do you not understand? How would going from today's system to laissez-faire capitalism make it so capitalists would pay their workers subsistence wages? What SPECIFIC things would change? You're dangling by a thread right now.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491786382 120354475,120396123,2017-04-10 01:06:24,">>120372747 bruh use a better font and color scheme, my eyes are bleeding you don't have to use black and yellow just because of the ancap flag",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491786384 120354475,120396487,2017-04-10 01:09:53,">>120396100 >the part where you said that I want to hurt production to satisfy my ego. That was the american who said that. >Perhaps you should offer to work for him for federal minimum wage next time you need a job Why the fuck would I do that? I'm not retarded and I have skills that are valuable in the labour market? >you are hurting production. No, me taking a job less than my skill level is what would hurt production. Taking the higher wage job would help production more. Are you going to respond to my other points or are you going to pussy out?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491786593 120354475,120396842,2017-04-10 01:13:50,>this nordic teen gets btfo and can't refute basic economic logic,,Anonymous,1491687648163.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,CA,,1491786830 120354475,120397048,2017-04-10 01:15:47,">>120396842 >He thinks dismissing sources for actual arguments as ""biased"" is ""logical"" Leafs truly are the bottom of the barrel on this board.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491786947 120354475,120397463,2017-04-10 01:19:58,">>120397048 You literally skipped over 2 people drilling a major major flaw in your central point into your head and you were utterly UNABLE to respond. Also on the income inequality thing you couldn't even refute basic logical arguments and examples and spammed some biased study that draws false conclusions instead of actually having an argument. You're really fucked here both ways. It's pretty hilarious you couldn't respond to the 'working class consumes 99% of consumer goods argument' AND the 'wage rates' argument. You have literally NOTHING.",,Anonymous,1491690706678.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,CA,,1491787198 120354475,120397817,2017-04-10 01:22:58,>>120390362,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491787378 120354475,120397982,2017-04-10 01:24:17,At what point of the revolution would the law against owning child sex slaves be abolished? I need this information,,Anonymous,,,CH,,1491787457 120354475,120398004,2017-04-10 01:24:28,">>120397463 Literally half the thread is you saying blacks suck, and ""the free market is magic"". Your ""logical arguments"" are just a euphemism for ""I'm one short of becoming a national socialist"". I'll give it a couple of months at most.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491787468 120354475,120398440,2017-04-10 01:28:20,">>120398004 >Literally half the thread is you saying blacks suck, and ""the free market is magic"". >get absolutely btfo and utterly unable to respond >strawman and pretend we didn't make any arguments whatsoever What is your endgame? Why won't you even respond to the arguments we made demolishing your arguments. Respond to my arguments or you're WRONG. I mean why the fuck can't you even at least RESPOND to them? Look, see these posts: >>120395599 >>120393146 These are the arguments you couldn't refute. This is the point we're at right now. Admit you're wrong. It's not that hard. Grow up and admit your logic is extremely flawed.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491787700 120354475,120398507,2017-04-10 01:28:56,">>120398004 >saying blacks suck well to be fair that has been proven emperically see the image: >>120388988",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491787736 120354475,120399034,2017-04-10 01:33:55,">>120398440 I'm not responding to those arguments because they are literally retarded and prove my point. >Workers wouldn't be better off if they got paid more it would cause inflation >""But I want to be paid a lot though because my skill level demands it""(You)>>120396487 You're just retarded desu. I don't know why I'm bothering.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491788035 120354475,120399556,2017-04-10 01:38:59,">>120399034 >I'm not responding to those arguments Of course you aren't because you have no refutation to them and deep down you know you're wrong. >they are literally retarded AHAHAHA That's not an argument at all you dumb nord. This is hilarious we're just going in circles here. You CAN'T refute them at all. >""But I want to be paid a lot though because my skill level demands it"" YES because I would demand to get paid what the market rate for my labour skill was worth. If I got paid MORE than this(which would never happen unless the government mandated it) it would simply cause inflation because the economic production didn't exist to justify it. My arguments are sound, you are just very very confused. >I don't know why I'm bothering. Lol you're desperate and hanging by a thread.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491788339 120354475,120400547,2017-04-10 01:49:05,"Nords btfo, how will they ever recover?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491788945 120354475,120400659,2017-04-10 01:50:15,">>120399556 Why are leafs so based now? I rarely ever saw cool leafs before, but now they're coming out of the woodwork. Good work Canadanon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491789015 120354475,120400953,2017-04-10 01:53:06,">My country is literally the richest and is one of the least unequal societies in the history of humanity >But I'm still going to argue that no social legislation or work equity laws are needed in society at all How does it feel lads?",,Anonymous,1434660490512.jpg,OgeQGvbpv6y5f54IAmXU/A==,NO,,1491789186 120354475,120400976,2017-04-10 01:53:17,">>120400547 >>120400659 Thanks. But most of the cool leafs you saw were probably just me in these generals.",,Anonymous,1392513873947.jpg,zbmk4Z0wblP779eCurVG5w==,CA,,1491789197 120354475,120401567,2017-04-10 01:59:10,">>120400953 >he's STILL posting >he still thinks inequality matters I bet you'd like to go to the congo, low inequality there. Scandinavian countries were extremely free market up until recently. They are still very free market and business friendly despite their strong welfare state. The main reason they have high living standards is their SOUND CURRENCY. They wouldn't be able to finance their welfare state without their powerful market based economy. The welfare state in your country is useless and everyone there would be richer as a whole if it didn't exist. Migrants are destroying your system and Sweden's. There's already a massive strain on the system lol. I hope you like your living standards going down because it's happening soon. >no social legislation or work equity laws Switzerland is a richer country than you and doesn't have most of these useless laws.",,Anonymous,11986456_768445646634691_7611295314292324859_n.jpg,O2m624mTsRsz2XVP+STxcw==,CA,,1491789550 120354475,120401927,2017-04-10 02:02:33,">>120401567 >Switzerland is a richer country than you Not by a lot. It's also where rich people in your country and your neighbors evade taxes.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491789753 120354475,120402122,2017-04-10 02:05:02,">>120397817 Guess not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491789902 120354475,120402163,2017-04-10 02:05:20,">>120401927 >Not by a lot. No, really by a lot and they're a much more free market. LOWER taxes and a privatized healthcare system. Flexible labour market too. They have the highest local purchasing power on the planet. Do you know what that means? Goods are cheaper for them than every other country on the planet. You keep getting btfo on every point lol >It's also where rich people in your country and your neighbors evade taxes. GOOD. Maybe if your country had low taxes like them you'd be a tax haven too.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491789920 120354475,120402176,2017-04-10 02:05:27,">>120354475 ANTI-CHRISTIANITY THREAD >>120400691 >>120400691 >>120400691 >>120400691",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491789927 120354475,120402963,2017-04-10 02:14:04,">>120402163 >Scandiavian countries are pretty good because they have a free market >But they are not good enough though because I can point to the ONE SINGLE example of a country that is richer and more successful which incidentally is also in Europe and far away from my own shitty country Cute.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491790444 120354475,120403446,2017-04-10 02:19:02,">>120402963 >>Scandiavian countries are pretty good because they have a free market Why in the world would you think the Scandinavian welfare state would in ANY WAY be responsible for the high wages and higher purchasing power in Scandinavia? The MAIN thing that allows these countries to be rich is their sound/strong currency. >bawww 1 country literally all it takes is one country It's a powerful counterexample to your childish points. You keep getting BTFO every time I reply to you. Why do you even try? Lol you keep responding to me even after basically admitting you were dead wrong by having no refutation to my arguments. Remember, you will NEVER EVER have a response to those 2 arguments I posted earlier.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491790742 120354475,120403704,2017-04-10 02:21:49,">>120403446 >Why in the world would you think the Scandinavian welfare state would in ANY WAY be responsible for the high wages and higher purchasing power in Scandinavia? Where did I say that you fucking fag?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491790909 120354475,120403809,2017-04-10 02:23:04,,,Anonymous,1488381002464.jpg,QLIUZ26a1MH/Uo1nSn8nPw==,US,,1491790984 120354475,120404016,2017-04-10 02:25:30,">>120403704 it's not what you were implying? Then what was even the point of your post? Anyway, the more free market a country is, the high living standards it's citizens will have.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491791130 120354475,120404187,2017-04-10 02:27:44,">>120404016 >Anyway, the more free market a country is, the high living standards it's citizens will have. And I've never denied that it does. But Scandinavia is proof that it's possible to have a free market, and also an extensive social safety net.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491791264 120354475,120404343,2017-04-10 02:29:23,Need some spicy violation of the NAP memes if you have em,,Anonymous,1488884987743.jpg,XVKxDHAIwMl3wkKIXANXEg==,US,,1491791363 120354475,120404452,2017-04-10 02:30:41,">>120404187 >But Scandinavia is proof that it's possible to have a free market, and also an extensive social safety net. No shit, that doesn't make the safety net a good thing. Also the only reason it was possible to even have the safety net in the first place is because the free market created so much wealth in your country. You people would be better off without it. Your taxes would be lower and more money would go towards economic production.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491791441 120354475,120404569,2017-04-10 02:31:46,>>120404343,,Anonymous,1491674902426.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,CA,,1491791506 120354475,120404663,2017-04-10 02:32:42,">>120404452 Well the inverse is my point. I don't think economic production at the expense of literally everything else is necessarily a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491791562 120354475,120404695,2017-04-10 02:32:59,">>120404569 >but then they refuse.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1491791579 120354475,120404768,2017-04-10 02:34:00,">>120404663 >I don't think economic production at the expense of literally everything else is necessarily a good thing. Why? Why would you not want to improve people's living standards? Why would you want people to have to work much harder than they would normally have to?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491791640 120354475,120404803,2017-04-10 02:34:25,">>120404695 Then you bring out the tomahawk missiles.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491791665 120354475,120404994,2017-04-10 02:36:28,">>120404768 >Why? Because of poverty, inequality and shitty working conditions.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491791788 120354475,120405682,2017-04-10 02:44:54,">>120404994 >Because of poverty, inequality and shitty working conditions. But it's economic productivity which fixes those things. It's literally impossible for the government to make any of these things better. We already proved this in the thread. Remember those arguments you were too much of a pussy to actually address? Read them again.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491792294 120354475,120405767,2017-04-10 02:46:00,">>120405682 >which fixes those things. Really? Why do poor people still exist then?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491792360 120354475,120405955,2017-04-10 02:48:14,"Anyone got mad max ancap memes? I got one.",,Anonymous,madmax.png,MtcjhN3ZSGtqZgTmrb1zkg==,US,,1491792494 120354475,120406460,2017-04-10 02:53:46,">>120405767 >implying I meant economic production happens instantaneously You're really falling apart here.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491792826 120354475,120406514,2017-04-10 02:54:25,>>120405955,,Anonymous,1491692105409.jpg,DtzH+ccW1R6Rz3MeOTH/ew==,CA,,1491792865 120354475,120406595,2017-04-10 02:55:26,">>120406460 >250 years since mercantilism evolved into classical capitalism >Poor people still around",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491792926 120354475,120406858,2017-04-10 02:58:25,">>120406595 more like >greatest increase in living standards in all human history and continuing to rise Every single time you keep getting BTFO",,Anonymous,1353234532095.jpg,J0UZvObV3eg86nvTY1OUbg==,CA,,1491793105 120354475,120407110,2017-04-10 03:01:18,">>120406858 >fixes poverty >has done no such thing",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491793278 120354475,120407330,2017-04-10 03:04:17,">>120407110 >lifted billions of people out of poverty and dramatically raised their living standards >not fixing poverty You're just trolling at this point. What do you even have left? You have NOTHING",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491793457 120354475,120407442,2017-04-10 03:05:57,">>120407330 So what are you saying, capitalism doesn't produce inequality? You're just GRASPING at this point. >Being this illogical I mean come on.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1491793557 120354475,120407676,2017-04-10 03:09:08,">>120407442 >capitalism doesn't produce inequality? No I have never said that. It does lower inequality somewhat but inequality is totally irrelevant to living standards for the working class anyway. I have already destroyed you on this point and you REFUSE to argue against me on this point. Where are you even getting this from? Honestly though, how does it feel to be btfo on like 15 different things and have absolutely no refutation? Does it hurt?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491793748 120412853,120412853,2017-04-10 04:18:20,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Unofficial Discord: https://discord.gg/6Qv7MZA Reading: https://pastebin.com/FKTP3BCh Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t31z2s_NZQg [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2_dPLBlvDI [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuDq88lO4M [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Liberland edition,Anonymous,Liberland_vlajka.png,iL5rOPQ2xqE/uGoDx0QSFA==,SE,,1491797900 120412853,120412899,2017-04-10 04:18:51,,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491797931 120412853,120413131,2017-04-10 04:21:33,">>120412853 Finally! a political general i can get behind! Right-leaning libertarian here, AMA.",,Anonymous,m00t.jpg,pm+5Zdq6PTdpU1NdHDrDxg==,US,,1491798093 120412853,120413328,2017-04-10 04:24:13,">you are not allowed to message on this channel censorship? not very libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491798253 120412853,120415101,2017-04-10 04:45:46,no one is in the VC,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491799546 120430689,120430689,2017-04-10 08:04:55,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL:,Anonymous,1491690706678.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,GB,,1491811495 120430689,120430806,2017-04-10 08:06:16,you will never break free.,,Anonymous,1488377584176.jpg,2tKSsav6Db1+Aj5sVgyqwA==,US,,1491811576 120430689,120430867,2017-04-10 08:06:53,"Anyone who unironically wants a large government is worse than a race cuck. Freedom is Man's gift from God, selling it to other earty, sinning men is traitorous.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491811613 120430689,120430906,2017-04-10 08:07:22,,,Anonymous,1491774328231.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,GB,,1491811642 120430689,120431038,2017-04-10 08:08:51,,,Anonymous,1491702694901.jpg,fvM+ntAxcVlyq379XrOXjg==,GB,,1491811731 120430689,120431130,2017-04-10 08:09:53,">>120430867 >Freedom is Man's gift from God, selling it to other earty, sinning men is traitorous Here here",,Anonymous,1491757322897.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,GB,,1491811793 120430689,120431252,2017-04-10 08:11:07,">>120430689 These fucking neocons in /ptg/ are actually defending a 90 million dollar bombing of a fucking airstrip in the fucking desert. God damned idiots!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491811867 120430689,120431288,2017-04-10 08:11:29,I'll make a Hayek reading list soon,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491811889 120430689,120431485,2017-04-10 08:13:42,,,Anonymous,mises pepe.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,GB,,1491812022 120430689,120431531,2017-04-10 08:14:14,this thread has to be ironic,,Anonymous,1490909188231.png,/TJL/5JLkMUf1YycnTbzfg==,US,,1491812054 120430689,120431834,2017-04-10 08:17:36,">>120431531 /lrg/ is not /ancap/. These threads have been around for ages.",,Anonymous,1491751225858.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,GB,,1491812256 120430689,120432294,2017-04-10 08:22:13,">>120431531 Taxes aren't voluntary so this imagine makes no sense.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491812533 120430689,120432461,2017-04-10 08:23:55,"Bump for snakes Any new OC?",,Anonymous,1491702624380.gif,fGrwVTp0wgkT8iPDSVkCVQ==,GB,,1491812635 120430689,120433115,2017-04-10 08:31:09,">>120432294 *image",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491813069 120430689,120434101,2017-04-10 08:42:32,">http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/battlecry-on-shrinking-countryside-1-5854720 >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/11723889/Our-countryside-is-in-crisis-but-all-we-need-to-do-is-build-more-houses.html Public roads are responsible for spoiling the countryside with suburbs. It would be more better to switch to privately maintained roads and remove limits on density, rather than spreading the ever expanding gray blob into the beauty of nature. Cities these days have too little ""gravity"" keeping people and businesses near the productive center. This increases short range travel and transport costs and increases our dependence on fossil fuels.",,Anonymous,1487183244812.png,E+0g3Zn4C9vRcyY/p+IQTA==,US,,1491813752 120430689,120434915,2017-04-10 08:53:07,Bump for liberty,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491814387 120430689,120437044,2017-04-10 09:17:45,">>120434101 >Cities these days have too little ""gravity"" keeping people and businesses near the productive center. Cities are unpleasant to live in and railroads begat suburbs long before autos. The countryside isn't an art piece, it exists to be used like other land. If you want some, earn money and buy it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491815865 120430689,120437358,2017-04-10 09:21:34,">>120434101 Also too much fucking immigration",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491816094 120430689,120438771,2017-04-10 09:37:51,">>120437044 You realize rail was heavily subsidized right? Also if someone finds the city unpleasant, they can move out can't they? The overproduction of roads makes land in the country more expensive for the people who really do want to get out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491817071 120430689,120440948,2017-04-10 10:03:14,">>120438771 >>120434101 The line between liberty and conservatism if a fine one. Anyone have any good articles on balancing the two?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491818594 120430689,120442108,2017-04-10 10:17:07,">>120431531 >but won't a new government form anyway? You realise no government has ever been formed like that?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491819427 120430689,120443876,2017-04-10 10:37:53,">>120440948 >The line between liberty and conservatism if a fine one. Can you elaborate?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491820673 120430689,120443946,2017-04-10 10:38:32,"Hi ancaps. Newfag here. Question. What would you call / how would you identify a specific area of land owned by a person or group? Today we have countries/states/towns etc. What would a stateless society have?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491820712 120430689,120445639,2017-04-10 10:56:56,Fellow /lrg/ brothers I think we need to shrink the OP posts to a pastebin this is taking too much space desu,,Anonymous,,,TR,,1491821816 120430689,120446096,2017-04-10 11:01:59,">>120445639 It is in a pastebin, people just don't paste the link.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491822119 120430689,120446371,2017-04-10 11:04:48,">>120443946 Hans-Hermann Hoppe refers to private communities as covenant communities. I haven't gotten to the bottom of his yet, I'm still reading about the topic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491822288 120430689,120447347,2017-04-10 11:14:16,">>120443946 Contrary to common intuition, you don't need a public decider of who owns something. Public arbitration is a recent invention. When there's a disagreement about the bounds of a property, the two people in disagreement will appoint a 3rd party arbitrator. This can be either a highly respected local who's considered fair, or it can be a foreigner who surely doesn't have any stake in the outcome. This person examines the evidence and decides. Good evidence includes property titles. A property title is just a piece of paper that records the change of hands from the previous owner and tells you who the 3rd party witnesses were. It also includes any transferable covenants that the original owner entered into. Things like >I and my neighbor agree to pool insurance costs. For either of us to leave this covenant, we must pay the other $1000. (This means that when he sells, he has to find someone who will agree to the terms, or else pay the fine.)",,Anonymous,1491673885782.png,pgryH+jU6s8AUxBAdvkeXg==,US,,1491822856 120430689,120449633,2017-04-10 11:36:14,"Is OP the guy who made the site? http://www.libertarianright.org I have shit for you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491824174 120459351,120459351,2017-04-10 13:07:33,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1491675055922.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,SE,,1491829653 120459351,120459408,2017-04-10 13:07:59,,,Anonymous,1491680272318.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,SE,,1491829679 120459351,120459498,2017-04-10 13:08:51,,,Anonymous,a683be9ade35a75259a58bc3d15d371e.png,poO+mt41p1JZpYvD0V03Hg==,SE,,1491829731 120459351,120459563,2017-04-10 13:09:21,,,Anonymous,1491826422596.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,SE,,1491829761 120459351,120459609,2017-04-10 13:09:46,"Liberland. Discuss",,Anonymous,Liberland_vlajka.png,iL5rOPQ2xqE/uGoDx0QSFA==,SE,,1491829786 120459351,120459971,2017-04-10 13:13:36,">>120450520 I had a thread up already, if you wanna run this one that's fine, but please copy the pastebin link, I've condensed the reading list so it's not so spammy >>120458891",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491830016 120459351,120460158,2017-04-10 13:15:12,">>120459971 Sorry didnt see it when i looked for ""lrg""",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491830112 120459351,120460209,2017-04-10 13:15:42,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1491830142 120564009,120564009,2017-04-11 02:22:04,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Hoppewave edition,Anonymous,physical_removal.png,FLQZpZL/imjJJIRfu8BWEw==,SE,,1491877324 120564009,120564042,2017-04-11 02:22:28,,,Anonymous,1491680272318.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,SE,,1491877348 120564009,120564081,2017-04-11 02:22:48,,,Anonymous,1491851652845.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,SE,,1491877368 120564009,120564128,2017-04-11 02:23:22,">>120564009 >Supporting an civic nationalist ideology on /pol/ Hello Original Poster, you seem to be unfamiliar with our premises! To get more acquainted to this subboard of 4chan, please make sure to read the rules of this Board, and Global Rules. Additionally, our Community strongly urges You to consider practising active restraint to creating threads or replies until You have spent a certain amount of time consuming our content (this can range from few months up to 1 year) in order to familiarize yourself with our Imageboard culture, popular references and idiosyncratic style of writing. Thanks in advance, and we certainly do hope you enjoy your stay! ~/pol/",,Anonymous,4chan_pol_logo.png,myZLikD+dqFZtaMUbZR5mg==,EE,,1491877402 120564009,120564129,2017-04-11 02:23:23,,,Anonymous,1491826422596.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,SE,,1491877403 120564009,120564201,2017-04-11 02:24:18,">>120564128 >being this new Kys, redditfag",,Anonymous,1491766381614-1-1200x2597.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,SE,,1491877458 120564009,120564654,2017-04-11 02:29:45,">>120564009 kys hypocrite ancap. I can prove it to you that in the history of capitalism there was no moment were big business didn't use the help of the state in securing a ""free market"" for the free flow of capital. You think communism is a pipe dream, guess what fucker, capitalism always counted on eliminating competition, with the help of the state, Just look at Antwerp, Genoa, big capital was always using the state aparatus to bail itself out.",,Anonymous,1491671136940.png,HM53YR1CT/tyT2lvOfHAlg==,SI,,1491877785 120564009,120564826,2017-04-11 02:31:29,">>120564654 You're just making the argument for me lol",,Anonymous,1491848106454.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,SE,,1491877889 120564009,120564852,2017-04-11 02:31:53,">>120564128 >civic nationalist Nope.",,Anonymous,lrg immigration.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,SK,,1491877913 120564009,120564952,2017-04-11 02:32:50,">>120564654 That's why the state needs to go.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491877970 120564009,120565283,2017-04-11 02:36:22,">>120564826 This supposed freedom from the state doesn't exist, capitalism at it's conception was a project entangled with the state. Oligarchs in Venice always worked with the state, the British Empire secured markets abroad for the expansion of capital via imperialism. And this Hoppe guy you keep shitposting, you think that under a ""monarchist system"" you wuld be a cigar smoking elitist, guess what kiddo most of you, if it weren't for the welfare state that helped the working and middle classes, would probably be illiterate toiling serfs under some king.",,Anonymous,rob.jpg,a53u7V2Bly7xwHHZMFMfOg==,SI,,1491878182 120564009,120565424,2017-04-11 02:38:06,Can someone give me a quick rundown on John Mcafee/Austin Peterson?,,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1491878286 120564009,120565563,2017-04-11 02:39:45,">>120565283 Nah. Hoppe simply states that monarchy is superior to democracy. And that's the reason why we want to abolish the state. Because it's a monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491878385 120564009,120565565,2017-04-11 02:39:46,">>120565283 Well... thats like your opinion man",,Anonymous,1491851479116.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,SE,,1491878386 120564009,120565687,2017-04-11 02:41:21,">>120565424 Reddit-tier. Peterson tries to shitpost his way through politics, and though McAfee was promising, he's not much better.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491878481 120564009,120566644,2017-04-11 02:53:17,,,Anonymous,1490370836710.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,SE,,1491879197 120564009,120567521,2017-04-11 03:03:31,Someone should make an ancap version of this,,Anonymous,1489377475794.jpg,kQDovX4qScMR3FxzdfITXQ==,US,,1491879811 120564009,120567638,2017-04-11 03:04:50,">>120567521 I hope to revive this general so we can have more OC like back in the days",,Anonymous,ii509s2xejqy.png,cfftdp4n2QTwQB4mv5VuGQ==,SE,,1491879890 120564009,120567888,2017-04-11 03:07:50,">>120567638 We need to pump out more anti socialist propaganda",,Anonymous,1491803950826.jpg,O2m624mTsRsz2XVP+STxcw==,US,,1491880070 120564009,120568029,2017-04-11 03:09:34,">>120567888 I have some funny ones lol",,Anonymous,jk5bNzVtJilNObuS3N-d8VkBLPNX3wIXQ46Xw_PZTK8.png,Pf1BbhBkujFFxRuqC0CxiA==,SE,,1491880174 120564009,120569358,2017-04-11 03:26:52,>>120567521,,Anonymous,dff24edf5de0477223416e0c5919f793.jpg,OnDsxTnYbeiIxZgN1pgHZQ==,UA,,1491881212 120564009,120570132,2017-04-11 03:37:28,The NAP does not apply to commies,,Anonymous,soldier pepe.png,w6MkOxJoveyJSZOaqwOkwQ==,HR,,1491881848 120564009,120570300,2017-04-11 03:39:31,">>120570132 hello Ante",,Anonymous,1489922223308.png,B+twT/umAuJd2sC76LdwkQ==,SE,,1491881971 120564009,120570480,2017-04-11 03:41:57,">>120564009 >libertarian thread You're a hypocrite. You want rights, but if you see people of color with rights, you'll pass legislation to criminalize them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491882117 120564009,120570631,2017-04-11 03:44:00,">>120570480 You're a hypocrite for not letting fags and niggers in your home aswell",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491882240 120564009,120570701,2017-04-11 03:44:56,">>120570480 >people of color >in OUR covenant",,Anonymous,molyneux.jpg,vBQiFaOpBTh9rEz9R/MmVQ==,HR,,1491882296 120564009,120570730,2017-04-11 03:45:25,">>120567888 >>120568029 >the opposite of libertarianism is socialism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491882325 120564009,120570941,2017-04-11 03:48:20,">>120570631 If people like you didn't discriminate against them, they wouldn't need to be taken care of. >>120570701 >covenant That's authoritarian, and therefore not libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491882500 120564009,120571035,2017-04-11 03:49:32,">>120570941 What are you on about?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491882572 120564009,120571209,2017-04-11 03:51:48,">>120571035 What's so hard reading what I said? People of color are in the position they are now because of centuries of oppression.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491882708 120564009,120571261,2017-04-11 03:52:37,">>120570941 >convenants are authoritarian Read Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1491882757 120564009,120571321,2017-04-11 03:53:21,">>120571209 So whats the issue with voluntarily disassociating from them? No more oppression",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491882801 120564009,120571455,2017-04-11 03:55:03,">>120571261 Physical Remawooval.",,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo-old.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,US,,1491882903 120564009,120571662,2017-04-11 03:57:54,">>120571261 >read particularly selected propaganda books That would be like me telling you to read books against Trump or something. >>120571321 Because of what we did to them in Americas, Africa, and even Asia. We owe it to them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491883074 120564009,120571715,2017-04-11 03:58:36,">>120571662 Sorry, I haven't done anythng to anyone, I dont owe anyone anything",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491883116 120564009,120571778,2017-04-11 03:59:35,">>120571662 >books I don't like are propaganda",,Anonymous,not an argument.jpg,dxjvqNvMWEmHrRGnq7cr6A==,HR,,1491883175 120564009,120571968,2017-04-11 04:02:14,"New Schiff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlORst8bUvA",,Anonymous,peter-schiff-our-children-may-have-to-lead-a-violent-revolution-to-bring-back-capitalism.jpg,Ha5+RVdc1ZuiBp9VqrGYpQ==,SE,,1491883334 120564009,120572052,2017-04-11 04:03:47,">>120571715 Then what do you suppose you do? Disenfranchise them? >>120571778 You told me to read ""Hoppe"" who is a person, not a book, so essentially you're pulling the ""appeal to authority"" fallacy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491883427 120564009,120572134,2017-04-11 04:05:07,">>120572052 Why are you arguing in bad faith? Anyways, are you interested in learning about real libertarianism? What is your current ideology? You strike me like a left-lib or maybe even communist",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491883507 120564009,120572198,2017-04-11 04:06:14,">>120572052 Yes I did but I meant to read some of his books, you faggot.",,Anonymous,cf4b677e9ac01be9d2b49a1236d7aea4.jpg,EgSyNiaIr4Mphaf/zb2k0w==,HR,,1491883574 120564009,120572474,2017-04-11 04:09:56,">>120572134 >bad faith I'm arguing that we should help the minorities. >libertarianism Libertarianism is almost broad. It could be an-cap >current ideology I never really considered it. I just consider myself a centrist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491883796 120564009,120572525,2017-04-11 04:10:48,">>120572198 Without a launching pad, I have nothing to go on. If I were to read Hoppe, you'd have to recommend a book.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491883848 120564009,120572577,2017-04-11 04:11:29,">>120572474 Why do you believe we should ""help"" minorities, and what do you consider by ""help""?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491883889 120564009,120572733,2017-04-11 04:13:39,">>120572525 Democracy - The God That Failed",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1491884019 120564009,120572751,2017-04-11 04:13:54,">>120572577 Because of their many years of oppression. I would consider America being on the right track, though, with things like Affirmative Action, welfare until they get back on their feet, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491884034 120564009,120572853,2017-04-11 04:15:24,">>120572751 What would you say if i believed things like affirmative action, minimum wage etc is actually hurting minorities, and giving them maximum freedom would actually increase their wealth and success?",,Anonymous,1491845657208.png,7uZVLVAoT1CnIWp59UXlmQ==,SE,,1491884124 120564009,120573099,2017-04-11 04:18:43,">>120572853 How do you suppose? >>120572733 Ok, i'll have to look into it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491884323 120564009,120573175,2017-04-11 04:19:38,">>120569358 By the time I'd read it, my right arm would be ripped as fuck just from flipping all the pages.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491884378 120564009,120573261,2017-04-11 04:20:43,">>120570480 No. You don't have a right to be served at my establishment, Tyrone. Your mere presence devalues property values.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491884443 120564009,120573360,2017-04-11 04:22:02,">>120570730 It is. It's against us economically, culturally and politically.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491884522 120564009,120573429,2017-04-11 04:23:05,">>120571209 More like because they can't into IQ",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491884585 120564009,120573517,2017-04-11 04:24:10,">>120573261 I'm white, idiot. I bet you couldn't tell that I was a brute and might brandish a blade on someone. Also, if you don't sell to someone, you lose money based on that non-existent transaction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491884650 120564009,120573660,2017-04-11 04:25:49,">>120573429 And, they don't have IQ because they don't have access to necessary resources that people better off have, like school.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491884749 120564009,120573823,2017-04-11 04:27:55,">>120573660 Not true, here in Sweden, they have equal if not more access to resources, yet they keep having worse results than natives And we dont even owe them anything, we never had african colonies or slaves",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491884875 120564009,120574040,2017-04-11 04:31:09,">>120573823 >they have equal if not more access to resources, yet they keep having worse results than natives [citation needed]",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491885069 120564009,120574117,2017-04-11 04:32:05,,,Anonymous,1491811190083.jpg,NCPY/73WozGZ7FkQ0w3CjA==,US,,1491885125 120564009,120574172,2017-04-11 04:32:54,">>120574040 Do you want sources on them having equal resources or worse results?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491885174 120564009,120574207,2017-04-11 04:33:22,>>120574117,,Anonymous,C5hmuG_UwAAkOYW.jpg,mBuZkeoQ96g8mFy82Nc4jw==,SE,,1491885202 120564009,120574364,2017-04-11 04:35:45,">>120571209 so how about we stop using them as democrat vote slaves and stop making them addicted to government handouts. I'm aware of the IQ issue, but leftists always seem to forget that their ""helping"" of minorities makes ANY improvement on their part totally impossible,",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491885345 120564009,120574369,2017-04-11 04:35:51,">>120574172 Whatever proves your claim.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491885351 120564009,120574425,2017-04-11 04:36:36,">>120574369 You are sceptic about both parts?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491885396 120564009,120574509,2017-04-11 04:37:39,">>120574364 You can't just fix race issues over night. White people have had the infrastructure a lot longer than they have.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491885459 120564009,120574552,2017-04-11 04:38:15,">>120574425 Just give me proof of your claims, that's all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491885495 120564009,120574626,2017-04-11 04:39:24,">>120574369 Here is the first one, about immigrants having worse results https://www.skolverket.se/om-skolverket/publikationer/visa-enskild-publikation?_xurl_=http%3A%2F%2Fwww5.skolverket.se%2Fwtpub%2Fws%2Fskolbok%2Fwpubext%2Ftrycksak%2FBlob%2Fpdf3604.pdf%3Fk%3D3604 Here is the one showing that all schools get equal resources per student https://www.skolverket.se/om-skolverket/publikationer/visa-enskild-publikation?_xurl_=http%3A%2F%2Fwww5.skolverket.se%2Fwtpub%2Fws%2Fskolbok%2Fwpubext%2Ftrycksak%2FBlob%2Fpdf3061.pdf%3Fk%3D3061 Important to note is that the last study doesn't account for other EXTRA resources immigrant suburbs get",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491885564 120564009,120574634,2017-04-11 04:39:28,">>120573517 That's a loss I'm willing to take. >>120573660 >IQ comes from nurture Nah. That still doesn't explain the test scores of rich black kids in America being comparable to those of poor white kids.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491885568 120564009,120574714,2017-04-11 04:40:38,">>120574117 >gibsmedat or ill shoot you honke.. i mean citizen Thw state is the ultimate nigger.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491885638 120564009,120574719,2017-04-11 04:40:40,">>120573660 let me get this straight >you take slaves from a primitive culture that hasn't invented the wheel >set them free after 200 years >they struggle to achieve same standards as white people >''but we are all the same'' >must be the 200 years of oppression and systematic racism",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491885640 120564009,120574841,2017-04-11 04:42:10,">>120564009 Leave that 80s shit to the redditors, it's cringy as fuck dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491885730 120564009,120574846,2017-04-11 04:42:14,">>120574117 when you get robbed at gunpoint do you thank the thief afterwards for maintaining your health (and bullet free status) in exchange for you ""fair share""?",,Anonymous,perspective.jpg,CEMXJ6RABpOyS9dL7mOv2g==,NL,,1491885734 120564009,120574879,2017-04-11 04:42:39,">>120574626 Yeah, I'm just going to learn to read Swedish.... brb >Nah. That still doesn't explain the test scores of rich black kids in America being comparable to those of poor white kids. Whites had generations of schooling ahead of people of color.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491885759 120564009,120575017,2017-04-11 04:44:27,">>120564009 Lolbertarians think the rich will save them from the state instead of implement their own once it's gone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491885867 120564009,120575059,2017-04-11 04:44:54,">>120574879 Which is why it's so retarded that you ask for sources I tried finding english versions but there were none Anyways, how do you defend it then? Or do you still not believe that immigrants deliver worse results with equal results in school?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491885894 120564009,120575080,2017-04-11 04:45:22,">>120574719 Essentially. During that 200 years, they didn't have the same opportunities as whites did during that time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491885922 120564009,120575098,2017-04-11 04:45:40,">>120574509 no but you sure as fuck can block the natural progress of free people by making them dependent on government handouts",,Anonymous,IM_HELPING.jpg,l/F2xlswdtkk/leSP13Chg==,NL,,1491885940 120564009,120575179,2017-04-11 04:46:48,">>120565565 WHERE ARE MY ANCAP ANIME PICTURES?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491886008 120564009,120575253,2017-04-11 04:47:53,">>120575059 >Which is why it's so retarded that you ask for sources give me a second. I'm trying to find an ubersetzer >Anyways, how do you defend it then? I can't refute a source that I can't read. I would say that the oppression and getting back on their feet is a decent refutation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491886073 120564009,120575312,2017-04-11 04:48:43,">>120571968 WHEN WILL THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE HAPPEN? IT'S TAKING TOO LONG",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491886123 120564009,120575358,2017-04-11 04:49:19,">>120575253 They've been oppressed by us Swedes? In what way?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491886159 120564009,120575380,2017-04-11 04:49:35,">>120575080 so you're totally ignoring the fact they came from a primitive culture, never built a civilization. Are you aware of the fact that blacks in africa today have IQs around 75, which considered mentally handicapped in the west.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491886175 120564009,120575671,2017-04-11 04:54:02,"Daily reminder is the government forced wage rates up 25% or forced wage rates down 25% living standards would be the EXACT FUCKING SAME because prices would change to reflect the change in wage rates anyway. The working class well consume the exact same amount of resources. Socialism is fucking retarded and taking over the means of production will not benefit the workers materially in any way.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491886442 120564009,120575766,2017-04-11 04:55:25,">>120575358 They weren't oppressed by you per se. They are escaping oppression in their home country. That's why they fled. >>120575380 >never built a civilization >who are the Egyptians >who are Nubians >who are Ethiopians >who are Malians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491886525 120564009,120576056,2017-04-11 04:59:39,">>120575766 WE",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1491886779 120564009,120576147,2017-04-11 05:00:58,">>120576056 WUZ",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491886858 120564009,120576163,2017-04-11 05:01:10,">>120576056 WUZ WELL REFUTED",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491886870 120564009,120576513,2017-04-11 05:06:14,">>120575766 Egypt - not black Nubians, Ethiopians - other side of africa Malians - dont know much about it, but slaves werent taken from there",,Anonymous,135674.jpg,m5ZBAsrYYtob0Cr8IX11NQ==,SK,,1491887174 120564009,120577297,2017-04-11 05:17:39,">>120576513 Try: prosperous black countries Or, for other people of color: try the Aztec empire, or Incas, or the middle east",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491887859 120564009,120577367,2017-04-11 05:18:30,">>120575766 Egyptian painting of a Libyan, a Kushi, a Syrian, and an Egyptian",,Anonymous,Egyptian_races.jpg,qOtFPrAy8qarrTdUCuodUw==,HR,,1491887910 120564009,120577405,2017-04-11 05:19:02,">>120577297 The middle east is full of arabs which are caucasoid",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1491887942 120564009,120577504,2017-04-11 05:20:15,"Why aren't you guys planning political and propaganda strategies? This is why we weren't getting anywhere.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491888015 120564009,120577702,2017-04-11 05:23:16,">>120577367 >>120577405 Sure, they're white when arguing against people of color having civilization, but barbarians when they rarely, if ever, attack a downtown.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491888196 120564009,120578066,2017-04-11 05:29:00,">>120577367 Even then the Egyptian ruling class were of a different race than the average Egyptian peasant.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491888540 120564009,120578146,2017-04-11 05:30:19,">>120578066 >1 post by this ID",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491888619 120564009,120578333,2017-04-11 05:33:32,">>120578146 lol are you here just to shitpost?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491888812 120564009,120579019,2017-04-11 05:43:50,">>120578333 >differences in oppinion is shitposting Nice trips, btw.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491889430 120564009,120579096,2017-04-11 05:44:59,">>120572751 Affirmative action and welfare are plans designed exclusively to keep them dependent on government handouts and promote an isolationist lifestyle in which there's no need for social interaction or bettering oneself, people are satisfied in their mediocrity. Black children need to see their parents going to work and behaving in a respectable manner for their own interest, not go for government check while smoking crack and behaving like animals because who the fuck cares I don't need to be good to anyone because the government has my back anyway. You're basically using hypothesis that are impossible to demonstrate (ancient oppression is the cause of today's problems), how do you even come to that conclusion? There are multiple examples of societies and cultures far more oppressed than blacks in America that today have found prosperity. Anyway, in a libertarian order nothing would stop you from helping these people as you see fit, the problem is that you want to help them with other people's resources, and those people might think that: a) Government programs are not helping b) Free money with no responsibilities is the last thing they need. And yet you would be imposing your vision of the world on them like a true totalitarian.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491889499 120564009,120579176,2017-04-11 05:46:11,">>120579096 Basted Maltese Godspeed",,Anonymous,1491675055922.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,SE,,1491889571 120564009,120579453,2017-04-11 05:50:15,"Since I trust you faggots more than the shitposting clan I'm going to ask this here: What's a good profession that can offer a decent middle class living experience which I can just ""robot"" through and repeat the actions for my money? I was looking into getting an apprenticeship and maybe becoming an electrician, and I saw the plumber memes here so I'm beginning to question myself. Is finance something worth getting into? I genuinely just want something I don't have to think much about abstract concepts and more with physical concepts because the former is bad for me and the latter is trivial in most regards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491889815 120564009,120579554,2017-04-11 05:51:50,">>120579453 Finance is shit for that, go blue collar or if you are smart enough, become an engineer Electrician or plumber are excellent options for that",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491889910 120564009,120579704,2017-04-11 05:54:19,">>120579453 I had the luck of learning this early in my life which shaped my decisions in the proper way: a) See what business that has been always seen as something only rich people buy or do is now expanding into the middle class b) Study how to exploit that business in your free time. Electrician and plumber are correct decisions but they are also the obvious ones, which means they are at a bigger risk of having an excessive supply, which leads to lower salaries in the future.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491890059 120564009,120579855,2017-04-11 05:56:36,">>120579453 What about working in a city and living like an urchin?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491890196 120564009,120580081,2017-04-11 06:00:09,"What's your opinion on this critique of Hoppe's argumentation ethics? ""Finally, we wish to note that, even if the above problems are overlooked, it's still the case that Hoppe has only proven self-ownership for the individuals in the debate. This is because, even on Hoppe's own grounds, someone denying the libertarian ethic would only be engaging in contradiction if he tried to justify his preferred doctrine to its 'victims.' ""For example, so long as Aristotle only argued with other Greeks about the inferiority of barbarians and their natural status as slaves, then he would not be engaging in a performative contradiction. He could quite consistently grant self-ownership to his Greek debating opponent, while denying it to those whom he deems naturally inferior. [] Aristotle need only contend [that] barbarians [] are not as rational as Greeks.""",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491890409 120564009,120580086,2017-04-11 06:00:14,http://www.libertarianright.org/,,Anonymous,lrg girl.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1491890414 120564009,120580352,2017-04-11 06:04:23,">>120578146 That's not how that meme works, shill.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491890663 120564009,120580445,2017-04-11 06:05:40,">>120580352 >1 post by this ID",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491890740 120564009,120580660,2017-04-11 06:08:40,">>120579096 >Affirmative action and welfare are plans designed exclusively to keep them dependent on government handouts and promote an isolationist lifestyle in which there's no need for social interaction or bettering oneself, people are satisfied in their mediocrity. This is how I see them too, it just stuck to me one day how government actually benefits from 1. poor people 2. jobless people. Took the redpill so hard I started to hate my government for enabling this shit.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491890920 120564009,120580698,2017-04-11 06:09:13,">>120579704 The thing with those occupations where a lot of people work in. Like bakeries, or plumbing etc. You have to compete with far superiour quality and convenience. Otherwise, you will just be another number on the marketplace.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491890953 120564009,120580845,2017-04-11 06:11:07,">>120580445 >wtf why are other people replying to me As I said, lurkmoar",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491891067 120564009,120580909,2017-04-11 06:12:05,">>120580845 >As I said, lurkmoar No, that's the first time you said that, not-shill.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491891125 120564009,120581029,2017-04-11 06:13:26,">>120580909 You'll get better at it, don't worry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491891206 120564009,120581170,2017-04-11 06:15:10,Daily words of wisdom,,Anonymous,StopBeingPoor.jpg,djgVk9k+UNqB12eGeMtTXg==,SE,,1491891310 120564009,120581313,2017-04-11 06:17:20,">>120581029 >3rd post you're really dedicated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491891440 120564009,120581386,2017-04-11 06:18:20,">>120581313 >29th post Can't hold a candle to you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491891500 120564009,120581438,2017-04-11 06:19:13,">>120581386 You should try a torch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491891553 120564009,120581445,2017-04-11 06:19:20,">>120579855 It sounds fun but I need to provide for the people I care about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491891560 120564009,120581460,2017-04-11 06:19:27,">>120580698 If you want to abuse the system pick up a profession in the finance sector or alternatively the industry or finance part of your government or alternatively a lawyer.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491891567 120564009,120581482,2017-04-11 06:19:50,">>120564852 Yeah, but the borders of nations would not be enforced because in some areas land is not owned by anyone meaning that folks can come and go freely. Of course you can have communities that dictate what kind of person can come in. BUT you can't force your neighbor to kick out the immigrant he houses because you deem him/her undesirable, that would violate the NAP obviously, Libertarians, or at least some of them, recognize the downsides of open borders when a welfare state is present. But when no extorted wealth is being transferred to ilegals, the incentive to immigrate to a country isn't artificially inflated. This natural means that for an immigrant to make it in a new country they must work to achieve a living, and naturally without incentive for single motherhood, these immigrant will have to come as families which then again decreases the crime.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491891590 120564009,120582058,2017-04-11 06:28:00,"Shit I didn't see any yellow so i made another thread. anyway use the new shortened pastebin next time! http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8",,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,US,,1491892080 120564009,120582457,2017-04-11 06:33:28,">>120564852 That's one spooky image.",,Anonymous,1491670355652.jpg,yiAKiaJFmjpjXfVRjynpvQ==,FI,,1491892408 120564009,120582472,2017-04-11 06:33:36,"/lrg/, what are you doing to secure a free and prosperous future for yourself? Im gonna head inland and watch the shit hit the fan while i build the compound. Then we organize the death squads for the people who wrecked america.",,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1491892416 120564009,120582606,2017-04-11 06:35:25,">>120581460 Why would I ever want to abuse the system? I would rather live in an honest minarchist state that is not 100%, than in some ancap fully kiked territory. If I lived in some ancap kikeland, I would just start bashing in the heads of fucking kikes because they piss me off so much.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491892525 120564009,120583416,2017-04-11 06:46:36,,,Anonymous,Gg6Jn_kEfmCWpIkWw307xX3Tr8QMjJy21IKI7FRMyX0.jpg,hiRP4lPTTkAf2UvjY0VF9Q==,US,,1491893196 120564009,120583458,2017-04-11 06:47:20,">>120582606 But Sven, a state is precisely what allows a nation to get KIKED. I hate kikes too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491893240 120564009,120583523,2017-04-11 06:48:12,">>120582606 >""i-it will work this time guys, definitely, just put me in charge""",,Anonymous,a683be9ade35a75259a58bc3d15d371e.png,poO+mt41p1JZpYvD0V03Hg==,SE,,1491893292 120564009,120583803,2017-04-11 06:52:20,">>120583458 What if I have an in-depth DNA test proving im 0% ashkenazi. Then maybe let me be fuhrer so I can use the states military to bring forth a libertarian social order? I really want to be an AnCap dictator.",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1491893540 120564009,120583893,2017-04-11 06:53:44,">>120583803 >AnCap >dictator Pick one faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491893624 120564009,120584110,2017-04-11 06:56:58,">>120583893 Don't be such a pussy. I would rule with an iron fist, purging communists in a way that would make pinochet blush. I will eliminate welfare, all opposition, and when I feel enough have been slaughtered i will end the tax system, effectively ending the state. get on my level fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491893818 120564009,120584317,2017-04-11 07:00:05,">>120584110 >taxes Dropped.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491894005 120564009,120584838,2017-04-11 07:07:10,">>120583803 If you do it pinochet style and just kill commies, niggers, fags and other degenerates. Who fucking cares. Shiiiiet, I would fucking help you throwing commisar cletus and jamal out of the fucking helicopter.",,Anonymous,colorful-george-washington_95144.jpg,gHwjj4VshQPGz8NwsRFXvw==,SE,,1491894430 120564009,120585041,2017-04-11 07:09:50,">>120584317 I said I will end the tax system as my final act. Sorry but I'm gonna need to tax you to keep the meat grinder running.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491894590 120564009,120585561,2017-04-11 07:15:59,">>120585041 If you have no (((bad))) blood in you, then I guess I would do my best to support your dictatorship. [spoiler:lit]Voluntarily, of course[/spoiler:lit]",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491894959 120564009,120585964,2017-04-11 07:21:01,">>120585561 Thanks, I'll get to work on that DNA test. Then we organize the death squads.",,Anonymous,image_0.jpg,1s3FPAifERSdVjv6vJXCLA==,US,,1491895261 120564009,120587117,2017-04-11 07:35:30,Can I get a bump dammit.,,Anonymous,hoppe_looking_for_commies.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1491896130 120564009,120588075,2017-04-11 07:47:23,,,Anonymous,wpid_hoppe_democracy.jpeg.jpg,DVg//D9V0jEWuGe/oSBYKg==,US,,1491896843 120564009,120588849,2017-04-11 07:57:23,,,Anonymous,hsm__101_.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1491897443 120564009,120589074,2017-04-11 07:59:50,">>120582606 >ancap is kiked while all our governments are completely infiltrated and your top strategy to keep a state small and honest is ""just"" give them the army, police and courts?",,Anonymous,1487679271389.jpg,6BNO/NtHfnejQU+jgEZhKg==,NL,,1491897590 120564009,120590787,2017-04-11 08:18:58,,,Anonymous,ancapepe.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1491898738 120564009,120591330,2017-04-11 08:24:43,bump,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491899083 120564009,120591887,2017-04-11 08:30:24,Bump,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1489933170695.jpg,1Vjv/OFC38y4lGlKDJxmLQ==,GB,,1491899424 120564009,120592104,2017-04-11 08:32:44,Is molymemes /ourguy/? I haven't been watching him as of late.,,Anonymous,moly.jpg,wGhSc300rh76jObYAzMLFg==,US,,1491899564 120564009,120593002,2017-04-11 08:42:04,">>120580081 Without the mutual societal norm of private property, there will inevitably be conflict. Resources are finite, and therefore scarce, as is time. A good or service cannot be used exclusively by two people at the same time, and goods, once consumed, cannot be consumed again later. The only system that can prevent the conflict of 2 people thinking they own the same thing is private property acquired by either original appropriation or voluntary mutually beneficial exchange. People that refuse to understand this are a menace to society. If communists want to, they can start a commune somewhere and no one would bother them, but their system is too retarded to exist so they have to leach off capitalism, and push democracy and socialism on the ignorant masses. This is a million times worse then yelling fire in a theatre. Their goal is a one world communist government with a one world global bank that uses fiat fractional currency hebrew alchemy to run a perpetual monopoly. Its only if all other systems are destroyed and info about them is suppressed can communism ""work"" (it can't, its just a scam)",,Anonymous,112315subwayad.jpg,8VUN2mWc+irC7LENT2XCVw==,US,,1491900124 120564009,120593929,2017-04-11 08:51:32,"Burgers, Brits, Mongrels, Svens, Maltabros, Netherbros, Russians and Portuguese: Truly an international effort! :3",,Anonymous,hoppe bae.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,PT,,1491900692 120564009,120593952,2017-04-11 08:51:48,">>120581482 Communities own some land more loosely than others, but it's still theirs.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1491900708 120564009,120594325,2017-04-11 08:55:40,">>120585041 I support your dictatorship. Can I be your Propaganda Minister and Commie Remover?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491900940 120564009,120594577,2017-04-11 08:58:22,">>120593929 Don't forget Slovakia, he's a way underated poster >>120594325 Absolutely, we need some hoppean theme music to snap our fingers to as we murder communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491901102 120564009,120595064,2017-04-11 09:03:49,">>120594577 Yes, I forgot about Slovakiabro, he's a cute. CUTE. And looking at the thread we also have Croatia and Ukraine. Based Easterners want physical removal from their lands. I will make new Hoppewave soon. I must listen to more speeches and songs to gather enough meme material and then work my magic.",,Anonymous,physical removal insues.png,vodplgKDngqNlpNR/Uj59A==,PT,,1491901429 120564009,120595868,2017-04-11 09:12:01,">>120595064 Awesome, I've got some more stuff to come as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491901921 120564009,120597107,2017-04-11 09:24:35,">>120594577 We shouldnt let fashwave beat us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491902675 120564009,120598467,2017-04-11 09:38:57,">>120597107 Don't worry, I will keep the propaganda machine running.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491903537 120564009,120599026,2017-04-11 09:44:04,">>120595064 Based Portugalbro",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491903844 120564009,120600934,2017-04-11 10:02:14,Bump.,,Anonymous,image.jpg,kl0D0vuMXjldJnCFcgocOA==,US,,1491904934 120580259,120580259,2017-04-11 06:02:57,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - RIGHT WING REMOVAL SQUAD,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1491890577 120580259,120580454,2017-04-11 06:05:46,"So /lrg/, what are you doing to secure a free and prosperous future for yourself?",,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1491890746 120580259,120581274,2017-04-11 06:16:56,,,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,US,,1491891416 120580259,120581335,2017-04-11 06:17:36,">>120580454 Going off the grid soon. They can't draft me if they can't find me. I will breed chickens and sell them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491891456 120580259,120581700,2017-04-11 06:22:40,">>120581335 It's easy enough for us americans, just move away from the cities, get some guns and watch as the state completes its overt takeover. Then we organize the death squads for the people who wrecked america.",,Anonymous,Gg6Jn_kEfmCWpIkWw307xX3Tr8QMjJy21IKI7FRMyX0.jpg,hiRP4lPTTkAf2UvjY0VF9Q==,US,,1491891760 120580259,120581738,2017-04-11 06:23:13,,,Anonymous,1473019404085.png,WQYr22ozGVGpPBnsXpXguw==,US,,1491891793 120580259,120582080,2017-04-11 06:28:21,">>120581738 >if I strawman them enough they'll drop their beliefs 7/10 strawman though, kinda funny.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491892101 120580259,120582276,2017-04-11 06:30:55,">>120582080 Glad I could make you laugh.",,Anonymous,pino1.jpg,zoMsLVjtRR6F5xEXty5s6g==,US,,1491892255 120580259,120582300,2017-04-11 06:31:15,">>120564009 theres another thread already, i didn't fucking see it because it wasn't yellow. my bad. let this one die.",,Anonymous,1485703346145.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1491892275 120580259,120582345,2017-04-11 06:31:53,">>120581700 It's not as easy as you think; have you ever lived off the grid? It's not easy and you have be extremely social with the few people around you to get anything that you need other than what subsistence farming can provide. Source: Lived and worked on organic off the grid farms in different parts of n. America",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491892313 120580259,120582772,2017-04-11 06:37:25,">>120582345 I know its gonna be rough. but i've been preparing for years and already have some experience and some commited people involved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491892645 120580259,120583812,2017-04-11 06:52:31,">>120580259 Hella my freedom loving boys",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ZzsML+TO87g6eqFAlF11qA==,FR,,1491893551 120667824,120667824,2017-04-11 18:22:32,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communists, socialists democrats and other shitlibs from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads.",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1491227560920.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,BE,,1491934952 120667824,120667972,2017-04-11 18:23:35,,,Anonymous,1491003101993.jpg,h1BIB7kChxrltDQq8Eo6Mg==,BE,,1491935015 120667824,120668078,2017-04-11 18:24:18,,,Anonymous,1491242065834.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,BE,,1491935058 120733638,120733638,2017-04-12 04:36:42,Voluntary™ Sex Slaves edition,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg girl.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,CZ,,1491971802 120733638,120733694,2017-04-12 04:37:31,,,Anonymous,arguemnt.png,lyYWJB7TipUG+m+rH9ereg==,CZ,,1491971851 120733638,120733833,2017-04-12 04:39:44,,,Anonymous,badge.png,JPBHh5Qw4ifH7V7jVhQWTQ==,CZ,,1491971984 120733638,120733945,2017-04-12 04:41:18,,,Anonymous,faff.png,cLHYkeNCvm5+BBk/pa7zSQ==,CZ,,1491972078 120733638,120734353,2017-04-12 04:48:30,,,Anonymous,Qz1cO5r11o4.jpg,gawlxfHe7dxN622wy8rO/w==,CZ,,1491972510 120733638,120736277,2017-04-12 05:20:10,"Can't debate atm, but bump",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491974410 120733638,120736886,2017-04-12 05:30:22,"WHY DON'T YOU FAGGOTS ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD INFOGRAPHICS AND PROPAGANDA WE NEED A WEBSITE THAT CONSISTS OF NOTHING BUT ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOR STATIST KEKS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491975022 120733638,120737237,2017-04-12 05:35:40,"lol stop bumping this pedo thread. czech can't do it right let it die so i can make a good one, fuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491975340 120733638,120737744,2017-04-12 05:43:43,">>120733638 Bumping this thread. Not enough lolbertarians on this imo.",,Anonymous,lauren waifu.jpg,8AYZNOAeu5vefm6YNqOb0A==,GB,,1491975823 120733638,120737814,2017-04-12 05:44:57,">>120737237 what's bad about my thread?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1491975897 120733638,120738373,2017-04-12 05:54:03,">>120737744 we'll be more in due time",,Anonymous,1491851479116.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,SE,,1491976443 120733638,120738466,2017-04-12 05:55:27,"NEW LIBERTARIAN POLL MADE JUST FOR /pol/ http://www.strawpoll.me/12729817",,Anonymous,1353372838346.png,PnxuRV3nBeiBV/dc9aJw2g==,CA,,1491976527 120733638,120738664,2017-04-12 05:58:30,">>120738466 Voted practical. I know people want to say moral arguments win, but I find the best is a bit of both but rooted in reality. ""You like socialism? I didn't realize poverty was an option. Enjoy your 1% growth rate.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491976710 120733638,120738703,2017-04-12 05:59:02,">>120738373 another one",,Anonymous,C9MBWyuVYAAUpyd.jpg large.jpg,tB7UXDdyDY6/RxdVZwhMoQ==,CA,,1491976742 120733638,120739119,2017-04-12 06:04:59,">>120738664 nah I made that poll because I'm tired of retarded moral arguments. practical arguments should ALWAYS fucking come first people care what benefits THEM",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491977099 120733638,120739122,2017-04-12 06:04:59,>>120736886,,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1491977099 120733638,120739224,2017-04-12 06:06:33,"I can't tell if this op is trolling with his pedo memes and molymemes. >>120737539 For those who don't want this smut to Sully our good name.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491977193 120733638,120739302,2017-04-12 06:07:59,">>120738466 I voted practical but I believe we should also use moral arguments. The left has such huge power because they are constantly on their fucking high horse (""it's the intention that counts, Anon!""). We need more people demoralizing and stripping the (((them))) of all moral arguments.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491977279 120733638,120739372,2017-04-12 06:08:59,">>120739122 WE need a website explaining every single common argument against libertarian in explicit detail with plenty of historical examples and sources Why are you faggots so lazy. >tfw no libertarian think tank to make propaganda I'm drunk and going to start tripfagging from now on if you faggots don't listen to me. REEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491977339 120733638,120739489,2017-04-12 06:10:46,">>120739302 If we explain that poverty can be irradiated by free markets then their moral superiority is destroyed. It's the practical/pragmatic arguments that allow for the moral arguments. The average person doesn't give a shit about morals.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491977446 120733638,120739523,2017-04-12 06:11:14,">>120739372 >Why are you faggots so lazy. I've done pretty much 90% of all those Hoppe quotes you see, plus the two music videos, plus that infographic I posted, plus some Rothbard quotes, plus the Hoppe reading list, plus the initial ""push"" of /lrg/ into existence along with an American. You are the one who's lazy, fucking leaf.",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1491977474 120733638,120739580,2017-04-12 06:12:04,">>120733638 STOP POSTING THIS",,Anonymous,DOuENJOYalwaysBEINGmad.jpg,vyfnIWopWMFLi3RcWQOBkQ==,AU,,1491977524 120733638,120739635,2017-04-12 06:12:54,"Anyone else tried nat soc and couldnt get into it? I was told I would come around eventually but i never did....",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491977574 120733638,120739678,2017-04-12 06:13:34,">>120733945 >a fucking frogposter >>120699999 >>>/b/ (Frogposting) >>>/x/ (KEK) >>>/r9k/ (Shadily) >>>/trash/ (Other)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491977614 120733638,120739795,2017-04-12 06:15:03,">>120739678 if you keep the race realism, and ditch the welfare state, you'll be fine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491977703 120733638,120739835,2017-04-12 06:15:35,">>120739580 >You are the one who's lazy, fucking leaf. >implying gabu isn't a libertarian >works when she wants to >wants to live in a society where she has to work as little as possible and everything is automated and done for her lazy smelly angel",,Anonymous,1491887442527.png,O50krmmLtLglffiAkJlv5Q==,CA,,1491977735 120733638,120739842,2017-04-12 06:15:39,">>120739795 for >>120739635",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491977739 120733638,120739876,2017-04-12 06:16:13,"WE NEED TO MAKE /pol/ a free market nationalist board. MAKE IT FAST",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491977773 120733638,120740171,2017-04-12 06:20:13,bump,,Anonymous,ulHYj6m.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,AU,,1491978013 120733638,120740275,2017-04-12 06:21:29,">>120739523 >You are the one who's lazy, fucking leaf. I know, it's true... At least I'm filled with countless ideas though but I lack the ability to turn them into reality. We need collaboration.",,Anonymous,1481700787598.gif,ASQ+tt2hSQefTwkgpPWbdg==,CA,,1491978089 120733638,120740538,2017-04-12 06:25:02,"Who's /violent revolution/ here? Seriously, I'm fucking sick of democracy. We need a violent capitalist revolution. Where's our bolsheviks? The only thing we have remotely close is the tea party movement/alex jones cucks. They DO own the majority of guns in america. But I don't know if they're knowledgeable enough. We need to radicalize them. We need to fight dirty. We need this or a free market dictators like Pinochet.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491978302 120733638,120740717,2017-04-12 06:27:22,">>120740538 I agree, I will be the dictator we need, however im gonna kill all the cat-grils. sorry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491978442 120733638,120740738,2017-04-12 06:27:34,">>120740275 You sound like a commie",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491978454 120733638,120740837,2017-04-12 06:29:08,">>120739835 in response",,Anonymous,nukeMELBOURNE.jpg,74LvURUQWOnQ5/FM+BR25g==,AU,,1491978548 120733638,120740888,2017-04-12 06:29:59,">>120740738 he likes traps, so yeah",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491978599 120733638,120740908,2017-04-12 06:30:12,">>120740171 >No For a New Liberty >Democracy being interchangeable with The Great Fiction >Mises Reader and Choice being interchangeable with Human Action or MES WEW E W",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,PT,,1491978612 120733638,120740925,2017-04-12 06:30:25,">>120740717 >I agree, I will be the dictator we need, however im gonna kill all the cat-grils. sorry. REEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,1485795132873.jpg,RcLH0QOhFEDl06sPLGXBZA==,CA,,1491978625 120733638,120741025,2017-04-12 06:31:49,">>120740908 meh, i found it, I haven't read all of them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491978709 120733638,120741245,2017-04-12 06:34:47,"Libertarianism as a movement is dead and is not coming back until a violent nationalist revolution that takes our the majority of the shitskins. You can't even begin thinking in a libertarian way until you have a white society as a baseline, so what we should do is work together with the national socialists and fascists. In the same way that muh communism that has never been tried is the utopian ideal that is supposed to come into place after a totalitarian socialist state, so to must it be with us. We must be the intellectual vanguard of the rightwing and support libertarianism as an end state and not an intermediate state (since otherwise we will simply get swamped by socialists).",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491978887 120733638,120741712,2017-04-12 06:41:16,">>120741245 lel libertarian is a meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491979276 120733638,120743225,2017-04-12 07:04:20,">>120741245 >so what we should do is work together with the national socialists and fascists you can't just associate with collectivists they assume ownership over you they're not rational, you can't expect to just co-op against a common enemy, their fanatism kicks even before getting results. They won't tolerate to allow independence of an ancapia like hong kong for example. They just won't. Nationalism when statist is fanatic and irrational, they believe themselves in a position of sovereignty over everything. https://youtu.be/1jLec_LLp90?t=1m19s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu6_2hFTw74",,Anonymous,1491738656750.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,ES,,1491980660 120733638,120743273,2017-04-12 07:04:54,">>120741245 >so what we should do is work together with the national socialists and fascists. why socialism though? holy fuck you're just as bad as the commies",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491980694 120733638,120743348,2017-04-12 07:06:01,"WHO ELSE IN ON THE FUCKING DISCORD? I NEED TO TALK TO PEOPLE ON VOICE NOW!!! DISCORD.GG/DpbNPFH",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491980761 120737539,120737539,2017-04-12 05:40:13,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - END DEMOCRACY EDITION,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1491975613 120737539,120737746,2017-04-12 05:43:48,,,Anonymous,Master_Race.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1491975828 120737539,120737999,2017-04-12 05:47:57,,,Anonymous,FUCK_REDDIT.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1491976077 120737539,120738166,2017-04-12 05:50:29,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1491976229 120737539,120738451,2017-04-12 05:55:09,,,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,US,,1491976509 120737539,120738635,2017-04-12 05:57:57,,,Anonymous,1491700315223s.jpg,+qYSYhOSmPMFzpZnuXeOKQ==,US,,1491976677 120737539,120739323,2017-04-12 06:08:15,"Bump, thanks for making a new thread.",,Anonymous,15390713_1193046924096958_199074968845431755_n.png,uE384KzEevNxNqX9nD7WWw==,US,,1491977295 120737539,120739485,2017-04-12 06:10:40,Bump.,,Anonymous,1491258750988.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,US,,1491977440 120737539,120739574,2017-04-12 06:11:55,"Gulag soon, Capitalismcucks.",,Anonymous,17359431_1796438367338031_256102666299081758_o.jpg,gGiJkI1zFSCaFp3mQPqBYA==,IE,,1491977515 120737539,120739598,2017-04-12 06:12:29,"bump UUUU >>120737746 daaaammn I love this one. Nice mate",,Anonymous,ancap squad_00000.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1491977549 120737539,120739704,2017-04-12 06:13:50,">>120739598 Thanks. lol >didn't really kill the jews",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491977630 120737539,120739788,2017-04-12 06:14:56,">>120739704 If he did we would not have had Mises, nor Rothbard, and consequently we would not have anarcho-capitalism. Nazis also get the helicopter treatment sooner or later.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491977696 120737539,120740081,2017-04-12 06:19:00,">>120739788 Yeah, they're gonna demand gibsmedats eventually, and when they do its removal time. >>120739574 Communist potato niggers wont do anything.",,Anonymous,1487041975527.jpg,WOXJhZNneX564LJE5Tn+Mg==,US,,1491977940 120737539,120740152,2017-04-12 06:19:58,">>120739574 >the country that thrived under anarcho capitalism for literally 100s of fucking years betrays his history for utter slavery really fucking sad welp, to the choppers with you then",,Anonymous,1486320139041.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,CA,,1491977998 120737539,120740228,2017-04-12 06:20:58,,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,US,,1491978058 120737539,120740282,2017-04-12 06:21:34,Amazing images.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491978094 120737539,120740328,2017-04-12 06:22:15,">>120740081 It's going to be like a renunciation of faith: they must step on a picture of Hitler and throw Mein Kampf into a firepit kek. And then they get an autographed hardback copy of Democracy The God That Failed.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491978135 120737539,120740403,2017-04-12 06:23:06,">>120740228 one shade too dark I think",,Anonymous,hoppewave 2.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,PT,,1491978186 120737539,120740623,2017-04-12 06:26:12,">>120740328 lol sounds like a plan. Does anyone know how to contact Hoppe? We should send him a capsule of autistic memes before he does his talk on the alt-right. esp pic related.",,Anonymous,HOPPE.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1491978372 120737539,120740651,2017-04-12 06:26:34,">>120737539 IDEA Someone should put goy libertarians but imitating the pic where natsocshills cherry pick putting only the jewish ones Rand->Bastiat (Both minarchist) Friedman->Hayek (Both of their work where popularised in the 70-80's) Mises->Menger (both austian economics) Rothbard->Molinari (Both ancaps) Yay or Nay",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491978394 120737539,120740740,2017-04-12 06:27:39,,,Anonymous,1491992652244.jpg,wde4OzuNLyoVRObyeNTtKQ==,CA,,1491978459 120737539,120740844,2017-04-12 06:29:13,">>120740651 Yeah i feel ya.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491978553 120737539,120741019,2017-04-12 06:31:41,">>120739598 btw i didn't forget about remaking ronpaul, rothbard and mises I will get to that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491978701 120737539,120741095,2017-04-12 06:32:46,"Who's /violent revolution/ here? Seriously, I'm fucking sick of democracy. We need a violent capitalist revolution. Where's our bolsheviks? The only thing we have remotely close is the tea party movement/alex jones cucks. They DO own the majority of guns in america. But I don't know if they're knowledgeable enough. We need to radicalize them. We need to fight dirty. We need this or a free market dictators like Pinochet.",,Anonymous,1044071_600036520026883_130165662_n.jpg,G9L9Oj+gmSBpYzj2/GVzzw==,CA,,1491978766 120737539,120741276,2017-04-12 06:35:14,">>120740740 why",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491978914 120737539,120741305,2017-04-12 06:35:31,">>120741095 Yeah, I think the point to be made to radicalize ancaps/libertarians is to point out THAT WE ARE BEING AGGRESSED UPON DAILY, and that not responding to the states violence is completely cucked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491978931 120737539,120741408,2017-04-12 06:37:04,">>120741095 For every business destroyed a worker Union should be demolished Like my great-grandfather did before being put in trial for collaboration",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491979024 120737539,120741417,2017-04-12 06:37:09,">>120741095 >violent capitalist revolution Moron",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491979029 120737539,120741499,2017-04-12 06:38:19,">>120741305 Attacking public places or public members should be considered self-defense",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491979099 120737539,120741534,2017-04-12 06:38:46,good pics in this thread,,Anonymous,hoppe-vs-stirner.png,TeH8OoNDCmu0IV9JpjQLNw==,PT,,1491979126 120737539,120741635,2017-04-12 06:40:00,">>120741499 only if ita the tax offices",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491979200 120737539,120741660,2017-04-12 06:40:24,">>120740651 this is the best i got, im not gonna try again.",,Anonymous,GOYs.png,A+U0uc+5K8sDTutQZm9GLw==,US,,1491979224 120737539,120741687,2017-04-12 06:40:52,">Physical Removal >Non-aggression These are incompatible, anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491979252 120737539,120741713,2017-04-12 06:41:16,">>120737539 >tfw started browsing /pol/ around 2012 and went from reddit libertarian to paleolibertarian >tfw gave up on /pol/ last year because stormfag statist bootlickers ruined it >decided to come back to see the reactions to the Trump Syria shit >see this thread looks like I'm staying",,Anonymous,hhYTP56pWflQDEEZ-nGR-5C6prw6eie-SxNkTQtfA9A.png,JHIjQpzD82De/5HNEEix3Q==,GB,,1491979276 120737539,120741730,2017-04-12 06:41:22,">>120741635 >tfw violent ancaps burn down the IRS Genius",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491979282 120737539,120741782,2017-04-12 06:42:05,">>120741687 >what is self-defense",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491979325 120737539,120741826,2017-04-12 06:42:49,">>120741660 Nice",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491979369 120737539,120741840,2017-04-12 06:42:56,">>120741534 not as good as the sound of a communist's skull cracking against the pavement S T A G G E R I N G H E I G H T S",,Anonymous,holy roman empire.png,CWtbYwgPfBbug6DRNImmXQ==,PT,,1491979376 120737539,120741902,2017-04-12 06:43:53,what are libertarians plans for solving the jew and nigger problem?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491979433 120737539,120741943,2017-04-12 06:44:34,">>120741902 The problem is the state, not jews or ""niggers"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491979474 120737539,120742035,2017-04-12 06:45:58,">>120741902 Pic related",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ZFDyMeWvSZdZzgBIz1xylA==,FR,,1491979558 120737539,120742148,2017-04-12 06:47:36,">>120741095 you can't expect a violent revolution we're a few and we're comfy the decline is an opportunity for us, unlike the rest, our revolution is trought the markets the best thing ancaps can do to contribute to reach ancapias is improving themselves and becoming valuable when the wealth transfer starts to kick in at higher intensity we'll be the ones with liquidity while everything else's prices are crumbling, on a scenario of statism weakness we'll have the best chances ever to kick start alternative systems to mainstream shitholes we shouldn't try to stop the decline, let it sink",,Anonymous,1491771011297.jpg,7N7Mg8QfWngMbOJUsa7YXw==,ES,,1491979656 120737539,120742166,2017-04-12 06:47:51,">>120741902 The state = The Jews. No Gibsmedats = brown people will have to get jobs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491979671 120737539,120742218,2017-04-12 06:48:38,">>120741408 Worker unionists should be hung in the middle of the private square in front of everyone desu.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491979718 120737539,120742292,2017-04-12 06:49:41,"I want to live in a corporate dictatorship where marxists and labour unionists are terminated kill em all",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491979781 120737539,120742389,2017-04-12 06:51:19,">>120741660 >>120740651 should use hoppe too",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491979879 120737539,120742488,2017-04-12 06:52:50,">>120737539 I'm ready",,Anonymous,17352117_1297275063698511_792280101835306712_n.jpg,yHaGACf7pIiyv9FQVF5V2A==,DE,,1491979970 120737539,120742598,2017-04-12 06:54:41,"DAILY REMINDER /POL/ IS FREE MARKET NATIONALIST NOW AND WE'VE NOW REACHED THE FINAL REDPILL THERE'S NO FURTHER REDPILL THAN HERE",,Anonymous,1349342834567.jpg,RfEQdXweTaN9EMQClRHduQ==,CA,,1491980081 120737539,120742665,2017-04-12 06:55:38,">>120741902 niggers will starve in a free market or at least reduce their numbers and prevent more breeding What do you think happens with no state support for them?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491980138 120737539,120742669,2017-04-12 06:55:44,>>120737539,,Anonymous,Untitled.png,jzZRYkSc0TMpZCf5F84KQA==,ME,,1491980144 120737539,120742713,2017-04-12 06:56:21,I'm yet to see a single outlined plan for how Libertardism could be implemented.,,Anonymous,1491929415322.jpg,0u750RZZ87oUeYuNNtwdyA==,IL,,1491980181 120737539,120742770,2017-04-12 06:57:17,">>120742713 same way it was implemented in 1776",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491980237 120737539,120742793,2017-04-12 06:57:43,"WHO ELSE IN ON THE FUCKING DISCORD? I NEED TO TALK TO PEOPLE ON VOICE NOW!!! DISCORD.GG/DpbNPFH",,Anonymous,vt.jpg,X2bkUNMdvQAilGLS02+ZiQ==,CA,,1491980263 120737539,120742826,2017-04-12 06:58:20,">>120742713 typical for a jew",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491980300 120737539,120742928,2017-04-12 07:00:04,">>120742793 Can't do, but please keep shitposting, keep thread going.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491980404 120737539,120742934,2017-04-12 07:00:10,">tfw libertarian are lazy fucks and losing the meme war How does it feel faggots? You could have went balls to the wall with propaganda and infographics but you didn't.",,Anonymous,1358394215364.png,SGs+y72RMZuznwjiMELWgQ==,CA,,1491980410 120737539,120742960,2017-04-12 07:00:32,">>120742770 That doesn't count really, since you didn't implement any fucking thing, you discarded the shackles for tyranny. Naturally a new kind of home brewed tyranny devolved. There's no way to fix this.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1491980432 120737539,120742985,2017-04-12 07:00:55,">>120742928 >Can't do, but please keep shitposting, keep thread going. It's pretty easy to shitpost when you're drunk. :3",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491980455 120737539,120742996,2017-04-12 07:01:02,">>120737746 Tribalism is, by definition, collectivism. Essentially, Nazism is no better than Communism. They are both authoritarian, they are both trying to tell others what to do, and as such, they are both oppressive as fuck. We should give helicopter rides to Nazis as well as Communists.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1491980462 120737539,120743025,2017-04-12 07:01:26,">>120742934 Make some, I have a bunch of propaganda I'm working on.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491980486 120737539,120743035,2017-04-12 07:01:33,">>120742960 >massively increased living standards is tyranny lmao",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491980493 120737539,120743077,2017-04-12 07:02:19,">>120743025 >Make some I'm lazy. The only thing I'm good at is motivating other people to make things.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491980539 120737539,120743167,2017-04-12 07:03:30,>>120743035,,Anonymous,,,IL,,1491980610 120737539,120743447,2017-04-12 07:07:12,White nationalism and libertarianism are incompatible. Especially when you consider that white people are generally less libertarian than other races.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1491980832 120737539,120743491,2017-04-12 07:07:59,">>120743447 >white people are generally less libertarian than other races lolwut????????????????????????????????????????????????????",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491980879 120737539,120743567,2017-04-12 07:09:10,">>120742713 Fuck off kike. Anybody else notice theres big correlation between kikes and communism/socialism? Remove gommies and we remove da juden.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1491980950 120737539,120743579,2017-04-12 07:09:20,">>120743491 What is the most destructive, more criminal state in the world? The US government, voted in by white people and ran by white people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491980960 120737539,120743664,2017-04-12 07:10:29,">>120743579 >us government >run by white people lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491981029 120737539,120743683,2017-04-12 07:10:50,">>120742960 That's because they implemented a ""limited government"" instead of ending the state. We'll do it next time. The Nazis didn't get it right the first time either, you're still here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491981050 120737539,120743710,2017-04-12 07:11:12,">>120743447 >Especially when you consider that white people are generally less libertarian than other races. White people are literally the most libertarian race. Holy fuck stop posting retard.",,Anonymous,1491748052084.jpg,bQnZmHCdvceIO5Tke9j4hA==,CA,,1491981072 120737539,120743720,2017-04-12 07:11:18,"Why not just be a paleocon and throw some elements of fascism in? >paleoconservatives press for restrictions on immigration, a rollback of multicultural programmes, the decentralization of the federal policy, the restoration of controls upon free trade, a greater emphasis upon economic nationalism and isolationism in the conduct of American foreign policy, and a generally revanchist outlook upon a social order in need of recovering old lines of distinction and in particular the assignment of roles in accordance with traditional categories of gender, ethnicity, and race.",,Anonymous,Fascist-American-eagle.png,PooQVFGpXUv6JNePhZJMbg==,US,,1491981078 120737539,120743740,2017-04-12 07:11:41,">>120743579 >united states gov run by whites lmao",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491981101 120737539,120743867,2017-04-12 07:13:39,"poll for you faggots http://www.strawpoll.me/12729817 also holy shit my captcha",,Anonymous,captcha.png,s53hZe1Xj8Zccdh4oy/tdg==,CA,,1491981219 120737539,120743942,2017-04-12 07:14:42,">>120743720 Because they're cucked economically. They're close but almost there.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491981282 120737539,120743998,2017-04-12 07:15:40,">>120743720 >restrictions on immigration >the restoration of controls upon free trade >the decentralization of the federal policy The first 2 contradict the last one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491981340 120737539,120744056,2017-04-12 07:16:29,">>120743867 Tfw my captcha had me pick out roads and I failed to pick the right images.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491981389 120737539,120744066,2017-04-12 07:16:44,">>120743942 >>120743998 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491981404 120737539,120744111,2017-04-12 07:17:34,">>120743710 Not really. Look at how many people Europeans murdered in World War 2 alone. They literally bombed and destroyed entire cities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491981454 120737539,120744592,2017-04-12 07:25:10,"http://www.strawpoll.me/12730090 DO IT FAGGOTS",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1491981910 120737539,120744609,2017-04-12 07:25:30,,,Anonymous,1491774328231.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1491981930 120737539,120744811,2017-04-12 07:28:51,">>120744592 fuck off kike",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1491982131 120737539,120744981,2017-04-12 07:31:25,">>120743867 This is why libertarianism fails to convince anyone. People don't give a shit about being efficient or practical. People go out of their way in everyday life to run their lives in a moral fashion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491982285 120737539,120745297,2017-04-12 07:33:41,">>120744592 Kek, voted for accept them as our retarded little Bros.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491982421 120737539,120745490,2017-04-12 07:36:49,">>120744981 >People don't give a shit about being efficient or practical. lmao yeah right people don't care at all about their living standards going up, or massive increases in technology they care about """"""""""""""""""""""""""morals"""""""""""""""""""""""""""", riiiiggghttt what a dumbass you are",,Anonymous,7dbffb772e1729f5049b8a1e7d83b7db.jpg,Ia98O5ypmXHyVkPCvvMacg==,CA,,1491982609 120737539,120746609,2017-04-12 07:50:36,"Drunken shitposting Canadian, I need you to find out how to contact hoppe. This mission is super important. You're my only hope. >>120742985",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491983436 120737539,120747023,2017-04-12 07:55:09,">>120746609 What would I say to senpai though?",,Anonymous,karen_kujou_51979.jpg,V5cguIDrCFyVK0OZnhakrA==,CA,,1491983709 120737539,120747191,2017-04-12 07:57:07,">>120747023 Just find out how, I will coordinate a message and memes that will not sound like a drunken shitposter.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491983827 120737539,120747275,2017-04-12 07:58:02,">>120737746 Based OC",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491983882 120737539,120747468,2017-04-12 08:00:28,">>120737539 I'm not an ancap I'm just a normal capitalist because I'm not batshit fuggin insane. But I do agree GOMMUNISTS ARE SHIT SMEARS.",,Anonymous,IMG_2160.jpg,cDGTZD7CFB+yX++Zeg4Kdg==,US,,1491984028 120737539,120747527,2017-04-12 08:01:07,">>120747191 Why would you ask a drunken shitposter to contract him? I mean I could legitimately do so but I wouldn't know what to say.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491984067 120737539,120747609,2017-04-12 08:02:10,">>120747468 >I'm not an ancap in the new age of /pol/ black and yellow doesn't necessarily mean ancap anymore",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491984130 120737539,120747746,2017-04-12 08:03:57,">>120747527 Don't contact him, I just want to know an email, Po box number, anything. I want to send him a message from lrg, but I have a job and can't do the research right now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491984237 120737539,120747749,2017-04-12 08:03:59,">>120747191 >Just find out how Also look. come on now nigga look how easy this is",,Anonymous,easy.png,ZHohcSLWaNXh6DNcUF0csg==,CA,,1491984239 120737539,120747813,2017-04-12 08:04:43,">>120737999 gas the plebs reddit violated the NAP launching mcICBMS from my personal nuke launching facility",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491984283 120737539,120747818,2017-04-12 08:04:49,">>120747468 not an argument you're insane as long as you don't ""get"" what ancaps are really about le ""your utopy that expects everyone to be good"" ""corps to be good"" ""le big abusing the small"" ""no roads""",,Anonymous,1483914792007.jpg,Gh4Ph88tv8iiXDN0Z9S6sw==,ES,,1491984289 120737539,120747826,2017-04-12 08:05:02,">>120747749 Yes good. Thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491984302 120737539,120747836,2017-04-12 08:05:12,">>120747749 >>120747191 Also why is he such a roachaboo? There's no free markets in turkey",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491984312 120737539,120747963,2017-04-12 08:07:04,">>120747826 >Yes good. Thanks WAIT Don't sound fucking retarded. Don't do anything dumb. Also if he tells you to fuck off, don't tell anybody. You're dealing with sensitive shit. It's one thing to meme a guy, but to contact him directly about the memes is another story.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491984424 120737539,120748328,2017-04-12 08:11:29,">>120747963 Good glad you understand, I plan to coordinate a professional sounding email with some help from the boys. I'm not gonna shitpost at him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491984689 120737539,120748600,2017-04-12 08:14:21,">>120748328 post the email here first also what are you emailing him about anyway? talk to me in the discord, faggot. DISCORD.GG/DpbNPFH",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491984861 120737539,120749008,2017-04-12 08:18:53,">>120748600 Can't talk, have job. I'm not writing it now but it will be about his talk on the alt right, I will post here. I want to be non autistic as possible as I respect hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491985133 120737539,120749701,2017-04-12 08:26:47,">>120749008 >Can't talk, have job >he doesn't work afternoons pleb Whatever you're talking to him about. your absolute goal MUST be to get /pol/ to accept free markets.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491985607 120737539,120750172,2017-04-12 08:32:21,">>120749701 /pol/ will embrace the free meme market. But that's not what I want to send.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491985941 120737539,120750708,2017-04-12 08:38:44,">>120741534 >to argue against property rights is a performative contradiction ""Hoppe has only proven self-ownership for the individuals in the debate. This is because, even on Hoppe's own grounds, someone denying the libertarian ethic would only be engaging in contradiction if he tried to justify his preferred doctrine to its 'victims.' ""For example, so long as Aristotle only argued with other Greeks about the inferiority of barbarians and their natural status as slaves, then he would not be engaging in a performative contradiction. He could quite consistently grant self-ownership to his Greek debating opponent, while denying it to those whom he deems naturally inferior. [] Aristotle need only contend [that] barbarians [] are not as rational as Greeks."" checkmate",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491986324 120737539,120750785,2017-04-12 08:39:47,">>120743867 >everyone is picking practical arguments we will NEVER win anything by doing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goNp9DVC9t4",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1491986387 120737539,120751049,2017-04-12 08:43:13,"Anarcho-Capitalism isn't anarchy as there is still an established hierarchy :^) Just call yourselves capitalists, class cucks.",,Anonymous,Op.jpg,a1WWlBXNCZxS5wU4Ek1+MA==,GB,,1491986593 120737539,120751122,2017-04-12 08:44:20,">>120750785 >>everyone is picking practical arguments >we will NEVER win anything by doing this AHAHAHAHAHAHA You losers actually think that this is a good method. Normies literally think ""without the government, my living standards will go down dramatically and capitalists will get to keep all the money they exploit from me"" and before you explain any economics to these idiots you're going to tell them that this system is ""MORAL"" holy fuck what a retard, you aren't going to go anywhere with this shit PRACTICAL ARGUMENTS ALWAYS COME FIRST then moral ones",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491986660 120737539,120751194,2017-04-12 08:45:16,">>120750708 >>120751049 Leftypol shills go bother Nazis I'm not gonna argue with you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491986716 120737539,120751243,2017-04-12 08:45:56,">>120751194 because you can't",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491986756 120737539,120751384,2017-04-12 08:47:43,">>120751049 At least you admit your version of """"""""""""anarchy"""""""""""" requires a state to enforce morality and remove voluntary hierarchies. You people even think sport teams are evil. lol kill yourself you poverty and enslavement loving cucks",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491986863 120737539,120751399,2017-04-12 08:47:56,>>120741095,,Anonymous,Guy on the Phone 12042017074508.jpg,13xw+K2FIeic0ELwONxfEQ==,US,,1491986876 120737539,120751401,2017-04-12 08:47:57,">>120751049 >Anarcho-Capitalism isn't anarchy as there is still an established hierarchy >Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates self-governed societies based on voluntary institutions. These are often described as stateless societies,[1][2][3][4]",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491986877 120737539,120751491,2017-04-12 08:48:56,">>120737539 >no step on snek general >on fucking /pol/ As if this is going to work.",,Anonymous,voluntary.jpg,iCUPcmutoLmFq227oo+KDA==,BG,,1491986936 120737539,120751498,2017-04-12 08:48:59,">>120751194 Classcuck has no arguments! SAD!",,Anonymous,king.jpg,IryIrjSG5EI9PWXiM3VC4w==,GB,,1491986939 120737539,120751509,2017-04-12 08:49:06,">>120751243 >because you can't Libertarians have destroyed socialists so many fucking times, it's unreal. i mean when will socialists EVER have an argument? It's like leftpol doesn't even try. There's a reason commies need to be thrown out of choppers.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491986946 120737539,120751578,2017-04-12 08:50:03,">>120751509 i'm actually just a centrist, but whatever",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1491987003 120737539,120751596,2017-04-12 08:50:14,">>120751384 No State, No Gods, No Masters! Revolution to the ultimate minority - the individual!",,Anonymous,Stirner.jpg,yN+3KKpX8/4c96NRY416gQ==,GB,,1491987014 120737539,120751688,2017-04-12 08:51:06,">>120751401 Anarchism is left wing, bud.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491987066 120737539,120751751,2017-04-12 08:51:49,">>120751498 >using not-real scotman falacy >says that others have no arguments Stay mad being a brainlet",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491987109 120737539,120751799,2017-04-12 08:52:19,">>120751751 not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491987139 120737539,120751814,2017-04-12 08:52:30,">>120751688 Source:your ass",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491987150 120737539,120751878,2017-04-12 08:53:18,">>120751799 Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491987198 120737539,120751880,2017-04-12 08:53:20,">>120742934 Poor guy. Don't you know we silently take over and Co-opt all of your forums and groups and pages and start nudging?",,Anonymous,fWPOW0J.jpg,uF6vSoTP10gmg0TUZGQ6IQ==,US,,1491987200 120737539,120752061,2017-04-12 08:55:26,">>120751194 Because you have no arguments. Because there are no arguments. If there were, you would use them.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1491987326 120737539,120752116,2017-04-12 08:56:01,">>120751814 Wage slavery or death sounds like a threat, as is part of the coercive nature of capitalism. Mutualism > AnCaps and you literally cannot prove me wrong.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491987361 120737539,120752125,2017-04-12 08:56:08,">>120751596 Enjoy being alone and having your non-cognitive side take over your brain and demolish your stirnerite delusions. >>120751688 >still thinks it's the 1800s People evolved from those old theories. Do you still believe in homeopathy and flat earth theories too?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491987368 120737539,120752349,2017-04-12 08:58:27,">>120752116 wage slavery,or entrepreneurship,or registration to private charity,or death by being a special snowflake Sorry kiddo you have many choices",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491987507 120737539,120752357,2017-04-12 08:58:34,">>120752125 people knew the earth was round in the 1800s, kiddo. Have fun being a brainlet :^)",,Anonymous,fagasstraps.png,By3MLusU2soTHjxrb9ysjw==,GB,,1491987514 120737539,120752420,2017-04-12 08:59:13,">>120752116 >as is part of the coercive nature of capitalism. >Mutualism > AnCaps and you literally cannot prove me wrong. >he's the most rational and logical of ALL socialists >he's still too economically illiterate to understand that capitalists do not set wage rates and the market does >he STILL doesn't understand that the working class consumes 99% of all consumer goods and that wage rates are mostly meaningless You're literally ALMOST there but too butthurt to fully take the econ-pill.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491987553 120737539,120752429,2017-04-12 08:59:20,">>120751880 Think of this. It's almost impossible to browse pol without seeing a forced Ancap meme. Do you think that's not done on purpose? Do you know how subliminals work?",,Anonymous,1486398007292.gif,OWkC4nBo0yG/qhfLtTm6PA==,US,,1491987560 120737539,120752444,2017-04-12 08:59:29,">>120737539 >END DEMOCRACY EDITION I'm NatSoc but I'm with you on this one.",,Anonymous,democracy EU.jpg,UDM9lNbvdlvW3NOh513d9g==,IT,,1491987569 120737539,120752752,2017-04-12 09:03:08,">>120752444 Democracy is communism lite. Fuck that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491987788 120737539,120753599,2017-04-12 09:12:48,">>120742488 Fully automated trophy systems",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491988368 120737539,120753899,2017-04-12 09:16:14,">>120737539 What makes royalty better than say, a republic where only male landowners can vote?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491988574 120737539,120754168,2017-04-12 09:19:12,">>120750708 Strawman. Hoppe always states that self-ownership is the initial status, and is retracted AFTER there is demonstration from one of the parts that it is not willing to allow the other to own himself.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491988752 120737539,120754614,2017-04-12 09:23:48,">>120752444 Tbh they are disappointed with democracy but they want more democracy. Southern Europeans are just prone to blame everyone but themselves.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491989028 120737539,120755231,2017-04-12 09:29:58,">>120754614 I agree. They just want a better-fuctioning one.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491989398 120737539,120755416,2017-04-12 09:31:54,">>120737539 So reading this thread, what's exactly the difference between you and an actual national socialist? Is it just economics?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491989514 120737539,120755705,2017-04-12 09:34:35,">>120755416 What a brainlet jeez",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491989675 120737539,120755920,2017-04-12 09:36:45,">>120755416 And authority And ethics And other stuff The only thing we agree with you is race realism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491989805 120737539,120756064,2017-04-12 09:38:16,">>120755416 I'm very conservative just like NatSoc, i however believe the state is a coercive violent monopoly and that it fights against traditional morality. And of course free markets are superior",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491989896 120737539,120756254,2017-04-12 09:40:22,">>120755416 I'm also conservative and have come to observe that private property and voluntary segregation are the only sustainable ways to preserve my values. Anything other than this will always fall victim to its own democratic/collective nature.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491990022 120737539,120756509,2017-04-12 09:42:46,">>120755920 Based Frenchman, I used to think you were all commies, but you showed me the truth",,Anonymous,image.jpg,kl0D0vuMXjldJnCFcgocOA==,US,,1491990166 120737539,120756821,2017-04-12 09:45:53,">>120755231 they just want to keep the deficits and the delusion no matter what's going on, until it crumbles the consequences are distributed to newer and future generations the old are going to see the fraud social security is the impooverished youngs are going to reject to participate on that scam such economic errors and their serious consequences have never before been distributed so massively between unresponsible third parties It's going to be huge, I don't even think hospitals can keep going on on their own, none of these profesional have any tacit knowledge of the bussiness side of any activity. It's going to be exquisite.",,Anonymous,1485503086261.jpg,A8I+CASBxehq2Tlf1JYAGQ==,ES,,1491990353 120737539,120757353,2017-04-12 09:50:57,">>120756509 Since may 68 we understood the commie took over our culture,our justice and our school But the real non-brainwashed frenchman knows that our country was really great when we were FREE (pic related)",,Anonymous,image.jpg,fhbX/X4GGzzYG8UxJmk7kw==,FR,,1491990657 120737539,120757400,2017-04-12 09:51:22,">>120743867 >All those lgbt tabs Politically: I support your freedom of speech. Personally: You should kys",,Anonymous,liberty.jpg,kCC9Dn8ZowS6RKtDj1lWEw==,US,,1491990682 120737539,120757643,2017-04-12 09:53:53,">>120753899 >no replies all you royalists are just fucking retarded larpers",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491990833 120737539,120757709,2017-04-12 09:54:34,">>120741902 the jews will own nigger slave labor who won't be able to compete in the free market very well",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1491990874 120737539,120758114,2017-04-12 09:58:50,">>120757643 Why do you assume we're royalists?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491991130 120737539,120758132,2017-04-12 09:58:57,">>120755920 But that's my point. Based on this thread, you guys are both extremely libertarian on some issues but on others extremely authoritarian. Where you are libertarian is mostly on economics, so that's why the only difference I can find between you and nazis is on that point.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491991137 120737539,120758199,2017-04-12 09:59:34,">>120757400 This",,Anonymous,97.jpg,yh96ah+SzPfI9kOzsUz8NQ==,US,,1491991174 120737539,120758203,2017-04-12 09:59:40,">>120758132 >but on others extremely authoritarian Where?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491991180 120737539,120758264,2017-04-12 10:00:14,">>120743867 After watching tucker Carlson talk to Lindsey Graham it's pretty clear that economic and pragmatic arguments are the way to go. One of the best ways to convince the average person not to intervene in Syria is not a moral argument, or even evidence based arguments arguing for the evidence that Assad used CW. Instead bring up the billions, possibly hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars that are going to be used for war, weaken the economy and kill others abroad.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1491991214 120737539,120758326,2017-04-12 10:00:48,">>120758114 because hoppeans shitpost about it all the time and this is in the thread title >END DEMOCRACY EDITION",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491991248 120737539,120758336,2017-04-12 10:00:55,">>120758114 >Imblying",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491991255 120737539,120758357,2017-04-12 10:01:14,,,Anonymous,anticommunist action.jpg,rAm+YQe0uUlAEuGdjVPv1Q==,BR,,1491991274 120737539,120758360,2017-04-12 10:01:16,">>120758132 You're mistaking social conservatism with State enforcement of traditional values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491991276 120737539,120758403,2017-04-12 10:01:46,">>120741687 The NAP only applies to people",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1491991306 120737539,120758537,2017-04-12 10:03:22,">>120758326 >being against democracy is being authoritarian Nice false equivalency",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491991402 120737539,120758591,2017-04-12 10:03:52,">>120742665 You're entirely correct. The natural order of things is Eugenics. People who are smarter acquire more resources and thus can produce and afford more children. Right now we have dysgenics whereby niggers get gibsmedats and they are can afford more reproduction. That combined with fixing the immigration laws of 1960s and we're golden.",,Anonymous,1488757633229.jpg,ElhmKZNpATSFsS5BhvtpTQ==,US,,1491991432 120737539,120758638,2017-04-12 10:04:30,">>120758326 If you end democracy all you can get is royalism? Hoppe might argue that monarchy is preferable to democracy but that doesn't mean he is advocating for it in the strict sense of the definition, as that sense would not involve the contractual agreements and exposure to fair external ruling. What we want is private property, now, if inside your covenant you want to name yourself King Sven IV, be my guest.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491991470 120737539,120758784,2017-04-12 10:06:09,">>120758591 >tfw people call natsocs social darwinists even though libertarianism is pure survival of the fittest Kek",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ZzsML+TO87g6eqFAlF11qA==,FR,,1491991569 120737539,120758906,2017-04-12 10:07:12,">>120750785 You're actually correct, most of the public does not have the ANY knowledge, let alone advanced knowledge of Natural Law. It has been occulted for the very basis of maintaining systems of control (religion, money, government). Natural Law is probably the largest fundamental truth we can defend our positions with. The time of being an order follower is coming to an end. Police defend dark occultists in their rape and torture covens because they are following orders, for a paycheck! Good goy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491991632 120737539,120758945,2017-04-12 10:07:32,">>120743867 none you won't convince anyone with either ways most people are not intellectually honest, they don't care about truth, fairness but their very own instant gratification Turning a big wrong into a humble position is a big deal, it's the biggest deal turning ancap is a breaking point that diverges 180º away of any other of your previous beliefs, that's a big step to make and people lack the intelectual capacity to do so, for real. it's not just being intelligent enought to process the abstraction involved, it's also about humility, curiosity enough to put the effort to learn all the ignored knowledge out there. And most importantly: personal sovereignty. Someone who feels unimportant, worthless and yet feels comfort on being dissoluted into a collective even when losing their individuality. Their values are a void zone of zero gravity. Nothing can ever sink there. That's where we tend to be naive, there's no way to push someone else's personal growth when they've already accumulated a lot of wrongthinkings. The ancap movement is a journey of separatism, not one of revolution. Let that sink in.",,Anonymous,1491546986041s.jpg,5i2sK4MzPugffBBWaJ+MVw==,ES,,1491991652 120737539,120758980,2017-04-12 10:08:01,">>120741095 that's not how revolutions work.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491991681 120737539,120758982,2017-04-12 10:08:02,">>120741687 see >>120758403 People = Individuals Communists = Collectivists Collectivists =/= Individuals Communists =/= People",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491991682 120737539,120758983,2017-04-12 10:08:02,">>120758203 This, for instance >>120737999 >>120740152 >>120741713 >>120742996 >>120739788",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491991682 120737539,120759025,2017-04-12 10:08:24,">>120758906 You must be willing to sacrifice everything, even quality of life for freedom.",,Anonymous,assassins creed truth.png,DGner2Hpts7l5Frj4DfYJw==,US,,1491991704 120737539,120759135,2017-04-12 10:09:24,,,Anonymous,natural law.png,bMyD1/Vns0LnnY8rdYr2lA==,US,,1491991764 120737539,120759162,2017-04-12 10:09:52,">>120758906 >You're actually correct, most of the public does not have the ANY knowledge, let alone advanced knowledge of Natural Law. This Remember when a german natsoc asked last week ""who pays the investors""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491991792 120737539,120759169,2017-04-12 10:09:55,>>120759135,,Anonymous,natural-law-trivium-quadrivium.png,OPXHkiWWAjkPaCMyEIE3Og==,US,,1491991795 120737539,120759194,2017-04-12 10:10:11,">>120758537 >>being against democracy is being authoritarian thats not what i said you dumb bitch, why are you equating royalty with athoritarianism? fucking kike libertarian hoppean society is authoritarian anyways, with forceful exclusion for degeneracy among other things",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491991811 120737539,120759250,2017-04-12 10:10:42,">>120758983 >self-defense is authoritarian get out cuck",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1491991842 120737539,120759275,2017-04-12 10:11:04,">>120758638 >Hoppe might argue that monarchy is preferable to democracy but that doesn't mean he is advocating for it actually he does have you read his books",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491991864 120737539,120759425,2017-04-12 10:12:37,">>120759250 You're using the same argument of self-defense actual nazis use against Jews. Again, no difference.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491991957 120737539,120759544,2017-04-12 10:13:46,">>120759135 What if I pay a guy so he can buy a gun to shoot you? I haven't hurt anyone by giving him money.",,Anonymous,Ancap.gif,NVpLQZZCftr2HhVNCI1POA==,PL,,1491992026 120737539,120759572,2017-04-12 10:14:03,">>120758983 You're confusing defense against aggression with aggression. The ""authoritarian"" aggressive part of a libertarian, like with rattlesnakes, comes out as a reaction to a previous aggression or threat. >>120759275 >Despite the comparatively favorable portrait presented of monarchy, I am not a monarchist and the following is not a defense of monarchy. Instead, the position taken toward monarchy is this: If one must have a state, defined as an agency that exercises a compulsory territorial monopoly of ultimate decision-making (jurisdiction) and of taxation, then it is economically and ethically advantageous to choose monarchy over democracy. But this leaves the question open whether or not a state is necessary",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491992043 120737539,120759597,2017-04-12 10:14:15,">>120759194 That's laissez-faire capitalism I do what I want with my property and you too Nothing authoritarian about choosing can join your property or not retard",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491992055 120737539,120759599,2017-04-12 10:14:15,"Roman soldiers were killed by their officers for teaching slaves the Trivium. Discovering the truth though the Trivium and Quadrivium. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKic4tAjMgM These are infalliable methods of discovering OBJECTIVE TRUTH. When you obtain this knowldge, you have a power differential over other people. Whether you use it to enlighten or enslave them, is your choice, and every choice has consequences. >pic about polarities You CANNOT use the methods on the right side to OBTAIN the results of the left.",,Anonymous,part1-05-polarities.png,FYfgfiOts1PSCvv84yjI3w==,US,,1491992055 120737539,120759610,2017-04-12 10:14:26,">>120742665 They commit even more crime than usual?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491992066 120737539,120759681,2017-04-12 10:15:09,">>120759425 >a group of people openly want to bring you to a wall and shoot you for disagreeing with them >hurrrrr if you defend yourself you are authoritarian",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1491992109 120737539,120759790,2017-04-12 10:16:20,">>120759597 literally the opposite are you that stupid french kid from the other thread",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1491992180 120737539,120759815,2017-04-12 10:16:31,">>120759544 You are correct. The one who does the action suffers the greatest consequence. That's why military men have dog tags, they are dogs of the upper class who do their bidding, whilst they suffer karmatically (if you want to say it that way) the least. You did absolutely nothing wrong, but of course if your intent was to assist in murdering innocence, you of course will see less of a consequence than that of who performed the action.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491992191 120737539,120760106,2017-04-12 10:19:18,">>120759572 >>120759681 Unless it's a pre-emptive strike like what you do against the threat of ""degenerate antifa communists"" who must be physically removed or thrown out of helicopters, right?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491992358 120737539,120760219,2017-04-12 10:20:32,"I love these threads. I remember trying to start them during the trump saga, but people shutting them down stopped it. Then the Poll came saying that half here are right libertarians then the Syria thing happened. This is a new age for us. Bump.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,y2i5HfNoMVbAkCv+CPpj7w==,US,,1491992432 120737539,120760233,2017-04-12 10:20:43,">>120743867 Idiots do t realise that ypu cant win a lefty with logical/pragmatic arguments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491992443 120737539,120760426,2017-04-12 10:22:23,">>120759790 >litteraly the opposite Prove it,you own shit you must have the right to choose How use your shit,nothing authoritarian >>120760106 Nobody talked about pre-emptive strikes and antifa are always the agressors stop strawmanning",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491992543 120737539,120760478,2017-04-12 10:22:57,>>120760106,,Anonymous,15390713_1193046924096958_199074968845431755_n.png,uE384KzEevNxNqX9nD7WWw==,US,,1491992577 120737539,120760699,2017-04-12 10:24:58,">>120759815 So you're saying I can get around NAP by paying hobos and dregs to buy guns and murder people I don't want alive? Sounds like a fun and functional society.",,Anonymous,Ancap.png,mJ7RODemB9VMgWjJ35cKLA==,PL,,1491992698 120737539,120760795,2017-04-12 10:25:56,"Since when did the AnFags decide to raid this board? These cringeworthy forced hoppe memes are starting to shit up the board, they are so desperate to fit in.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491992756 120737539,120760830,2017-04-12 10:26:18,">>120760699 >So you're saying I can get around NAP by paying hobos and dregs to buy guns Yes >and murder people I don't want alive? No",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491992778 120737539,120760843,2017-04-12 10:26:25,">>120760478 nice straw man >>120760106 I don't care what you call it. That is a pre-emptive strike. You are attacking someone because you believe they are going to harm you down the road.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491992785 120737539,120760895,2017-04-12 10:26:57,">>120760795 Because your nat soc dreams are dying and the right libs are coming back.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,qSon3HJWAM7FHCBR/7pchQ==,US,,1491992817 120737539,120760931,2017-04-12 10:27:22,">>120760830 Why not? It's not like I'm forcing them to kill people at gunpoint. I just insist they violate the NAP for further monetary gain, as money is main motivator in a capitalist world without government.",,Anonymous,Sunglasses.jpg,YG5gLHkhu270uJUOk1CObA==,PL,,1491992842 120737539,120760983,2017-04-12 10:27:54,">>120741902 the free market will solve it for us",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491992874 120737539,120761012,2017-04-12 10:28:12,">>120760843 You answered your own post...",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491992892 120737539,120761076,2017-04-12 10:28:44,">>120742713 >Bernie Sanders fuck off",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491992924 120737539,120761202,2017-04-12 10:30:03,">>120760931 >Why not? It's not like I'm forcing them to kill people at gunpoint. Calling for murder is threatening,and threat is a NAP violation because people own themselves",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491993003 120737539,120761284,2017-04-12 10:30:55,">Introduction to Anarchism https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf >The Anarchist FAQ http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA >Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism? http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF >What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen >The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread",,Anonymous,1312353654.jpg,yQzKtNYq8O3jZlZitErT4A==,GB,,1491993055 120737539,120761413,2017-04-12 10:32:07,">>120761202 >Calling for murder is threatening, No it's not, I'm not threatening anyone, I'm offering monetary gain for shooting someone. I am not threatening or attacking anyone - I am rewarding a certain behavior with money. Unless you have a proper argument why this constitutes a threat to somebody, especially if it's a closed-doors deal to a private entity, get out.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491993127 120737539,120761537,2017-04-12 10:33:27,">>120760931 ...No Money is a foreign, subversive, system of control imposed on the human race by the classes with all the (((gold))). Capitalism is a system of control too, obviously. The only true profit is virtue, and in a community of the society were idealizing, the very idea that your neighbors could trace back to you your bad behavior would be unthinkable. Communities are much closer without mommy and daddy government. You would be socially destroyed. Your just proving why a society without knowldege of NATURAL LAW cannot exist freely. See >>120759135 >>120758906 Because the hobo or whatever would know it is not in his best interest (monetarily LONG TERM, or virtuously ANY TERM) to perform violent action (of course he retains the right to defend himself as always). The False Prophets (profits) are money. I could go into a talk about how MON (one) ey (EYE) is a false representation of the One Eye or true knowledge of right and wrong, and that's why the mock us with it on the back of our dollar bill, but that's the jist of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491993207 120737539,120761549,2017-04-12 10:33:32,">>120761284 Gross, go suck a dick you egalitarian faggot.",,Anonymous,1488752726737.png,MdDUTz5TLmIjEyDVAwtVdw==,US,,1491993212 120737539,120761612,2017-04-12 10:34:07,">>120761284 >Pierre-Joseph Proudhon An angry fat teenager who throw tantrums at the moment you critizice his ideas Pretty accurate",,Anonymous,image.jpg,POtMGmxLQEnTFj8v9StIxA==,FR,,1491993247 120737539,120761683,2017-04-12 10:34:40,">>120761537 >Because the hobo or whatever would know it is not in his best interest I'm sure the hobo on verge of starvation would gracefully reject an offer to have food and shelter for months on end just because ""muh morality"". Muh rality is not an argument.",,Anonymous,=3 redpill.png,Lh54C6TTKtK0FkPu7Kg49w==,PL,,1491993280 120737539,120761749,2017-04-12 10:35:22,">>120761549 not an argument, cuckitalist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491993322 120737539,120761788,2017-04-12 10:35:52,">>120751491 /pol/ had a libertarian majority before you stormfags spread your statist, economically inefficient cancer",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491993352 120737539,120761811,2017-04-12 10:36:05,">>120761284 This infoshop page is a good read, thanks comrade",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491993365 120737539,120761883,2017-04-12 10:36:50,">>120761012 My mistake. It was to you. Point still stands.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491993410 120737539,120761896,2017-04-12 10:37:00,">>120758360 this",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1491993420 120737539,120761908,2017-04-12 10:37:07,">>120760106 Contracts. I go live in this place, this place says ""no socialism, nor democracy allowed"" in the contract, I break the contract, I get thrown off a helicopter as stipulated in said contract. Private law and let the market chose which of these contract models brings more prosperity.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491993427 120737539,120761921,2017-04-12 10:37:16,">>120761683 Homelessness and starvation don't exist in societies like this, because they are not city based, they are rural or suburban. See: USA Pre-1960. Stop shilling for moral relativity and Satanism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491993436 120737539,120761961,2017-04-12 10:37:44,">>120761413 >I'm offering monetary gain for shooting someone. People own themselves and can do whatever they want until they interact with someone,then voluntary actions is needed,and the people getting shot by your hobos do not consent with this You call for murder (dommaging self-ownership) you are an agressor",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491993464 120737539,120761979,2017-04-12 10:37:54,">>120761537 I genuinely have trouble figuring out if you're advocating for communism or libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491993474 120737539,120762176,2017-04-12 10:39:41,">>120761979 What makes you say that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491993581 120737539,120762190,2017-04-12 10:39:52,">>120761961 >the people getting shot by your hobos do not consent with this Does it matter? It's the hobo who broke the NAP, not me. Unless you are saying PMCs, armed security and private police forces are non-kosher in a libertarian society, because they are paid to violate NAP on anyone who does something undesirable to their employer/his assets.",,Anonymous,Life is good.jpg,ATFtPX5VcfvFv5QkDL7h5g==,PL,,1491993592 120737539,120762400,2017-04-12 10:41:45,Property is the enemy of freedom.,,Anonymous,1457887923241.png,NO1jD0vL3X6jRzoK4BSERA==,GB,,1491993705 120737539,120762523,2017-04-12 10:42:46,">>120761908 That's all fine and dandy if you ignore that all contracts are incomplete and have issues of enforceability, no matter what system you're on.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491993766 120737539,120762536,2017-04-12 10:42:54,">>120761921 >Homelessness and starvation don't exist in societies like this So what if entire Earth is privately owned? How do you get food? Where will you live? Hard mode: no NAP violating",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491993774 120737539,120762559,2017-04-12 10:43:06,">>120761883 I NEVER ATTACKED ANYONE YOU RETARD I DEFEND MYSELF AND MY PROPERTY WHEN THEY COMMIT AN AGRESSION AND FOR THE MEMES WE USE CHOPPERS BECAUSE COMMIES WERE KILLED LIKE THAT NOT A FUCKING PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491993786 120737539,120762768,2017-04-12 10:44:43,">>120762176 Money is a foreign, subversive, system of control Communities are much closer without mommy and daddy government The False Prophets (profits) are money That's straight from an antifa club book leaflet",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491993883 120737539,120762771,2017-04-12 10:44:44,">>120762400 Just like gravity oppresses your freedom to float around, good luck evolving into a non hierarchal creature.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491993884 120737539,120762840,2017-04-12 10:45:20,">>120761811 The Anarchist FAQ was written in the 90's to initially debunk 'an'cap claims to being anarchists back in the days of usenet. Even then 'an'caps infested the internet with their neo-feudalist bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491993920 120737539,120762846,2017-04-12 10:45:23,">>120762190 >because they are paid to violate NAP on anyone who does something undesirable to their employer/his assets. That's called ensuring your self-defense",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491993923 120737539,120762957,2017-04-12 10:46:21,">>120762559 I'm not criticizing you but your ideology. Calm down.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491993981 120737539,120762976,2017-04-12 10:46:29,">>120762846 No it's not, it's violation of NAP on a completely unrelated person. Just because guy A shoots guy B doesn't give guy C a right to shoot guy A. If guy A attempts shooting guy C, he has right to defend himself.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491993989 120737539,120763024,2017-04-12 10:47:04,">>120762771 >Property is natural >Hierarchy is natural >Implying naturalistic fallacy anyway So this . . . is the power . . . of ideology.",,Anonymous,1461990195163.gif,GjFIcAWeFPz2VSXM37QGAA==,GB,,1491994024 120737539,120763248,2017-04-12 10:49:03,">>120762523 The places with issues enforcing contracts and incomplete contracts will, therefore, not be prosperous, just like I wouldn't be prosperous if I didn't include provisions in my contracts to protect me from everything a client might fuck me up with. These places will need to sell eventually, and the new owner will have learned from the previous owner's mistakes. In the end market optimization will lead to contracts being more and more optimized.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491994143 120737539,120763307,2017-04-12 10:49:34,">>120762536 You're example isn't relevant. What, are you a 25 year old man that just fucking pops out of no where into the streets of New York, without a family, without past work, without friends? These are the things you grow up with, and if you ACT MORALLY and PROPERLY they will let you lean on them when you need them, and you let them lean on you when they need you. Find the nearest restaurant or manufacturing company and apply? That's up for YOU to figure out, YOU are FREE. As long as you don't violate natural law. >>120762768 I don't know what the fuck the antifa book club leaflet thing says. I don't care. Let me apologize, you're correct. I'm referring to CURRENCY, aka a centralized system of control owned by the government. I'm not against people voluntarily participating in a monetary system. However, as you imagine, the people who own the federal reserve own the world, and obviously that is something we have to be against.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491994174 120737539,120763317,2017-04-12 10:49:44,">>120737746 >free bread >free NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH",,Anonymous,hoppe-202x300.jpg,Q7ipG3/t9uo+UeE06jYT+Q==,FR,,1491994184 120737539,120763355,2017-04-12 10:50:03,">>120762976 By This logic,bosses steal worker's labor Nice try but your property also count the price you pay for security",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491994203 120737539,120763411,2017-04-12 10:50:32,">>120763307 >What, are you a 25 year old man that just fucking pops out of no where into the streets of New York, without a family, without past work, without friends? Parents aren't obliged to care for their child. >and if you ACT MORALLY ""Muh rality"" in a world motivated by money.",,Anonymous,=3.png,pdzSdCSq5x24oJlZCE3Ueg==,PL,,1491994232 120737539,120763524,2017-04-12 10:51:39,">>120763355 >By This logic,bosses steal worker's labor A voluntary trade of labor occurs via a contract. What part of a contract says ""I volunteer to getting shot in the face by your PMC if I trespass here""? Or are you agreeing with me there's no counter to hungry hobo army with shotguns?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491994299 120737539,120763545,2017-04-12 10:51:48,">>120763411 Parents who don't take care of their children will be socially exiled from a community and is not in their best interest. Your answer is not incorrect, but also is irrelevant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491994308 120737539,120763640,2017-04-12 10:52:41,">>120763024 Hierarchy is one person saying let's do something and other person saying yes. Democracy is the cornerstone of ""anarcho""-communism, so how exactly are you proposing to remove hierarchy?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491994361 120737539,120763714,2017-04-12 10:53:19,">>120763545 >Parents who don't take care of their children will be socially exiled from a community and is not in their best interest. Not if the parents are owners of a mega-corp who own literally an entire continent and no one can afford to just not trade with them. You think US trades with China because they like their style?",,Anonymous,A smug frog.jpg,ryu8feEeRgOd9Ew5iPzccA==,PL,,1491994399 120737539,120763919,2017-04-12 10:55:00,">>120763714 Mega corps don't exist long term in a libertarian society. Like I said, money is the lowest form of exchanged value in a Libertarian society, there are far greater and purposeful forms of energy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491994500 120737539,120763965,2017-04-12 10:55:19,">>120763024 Not sure he meant to say that the naturality of hierarchy lends legitimacy, I think he just meant that hierarchies seem to be universal, and it is therefore difficult--if not impossible--to do away with them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491994519 120737539,120763985,2017-04-12 10:55:35,">>120763919 >Mega corps don't exist long term in a libertarian society. Why? Because you say so, and for some arbitrary reason power-hungry people would stop existing?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491994535 120737539,120764008,2017-04-12 10:55:52,">>120763524 No the contract says ""I insure my safety if I am tread on"" between the PMCs and you,their labor of protecting you is yours,and so they can kill a guy who kills you Calling for murder when there is No agression to defend yourself...is agression",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491994552 120737539,120764170,2017-04-12 10:57:37,">>120764008 So as far as I'm concerned, you're in an organized gang with 7 billion people and I have the right to pre-emptively strike you to prevent my murder by one of your gang members with my recreational nukes and PMCs. It says so on my contract, ""I insure my safety if I am tread on"", see. Or I can just graciously gift the nukes to my loyal PMC members as they push buttons to launch them.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491994657 120737539,120764180,2017-04-12 10:57:44,">>120763248 That's not how the real world works. If that were the case, nobody would use courts even today. Stop assuming we are super humans.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491994664 120737539,120764195,2017-04-12 10:57:54,">>120763985 Competition. When there is no government to lobby and force others out of competition (like regulations and minimum wage) its nearly impossible to not have competitors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491994674 120737539,120764366,2017-04-12 10:59:29,">>120764195 >Competition. When there is no government to lobby and force others out of competition (like regulations and minimum wage) its nearly impossible to not have competitors. That's why I said ""continent"" not ""world"".",,Anonymous,Syndicate.jpg,5ll4GCn8gNQ1iQt8+g5KnA==,PL,,1491994769 120737539,120764394,2017-04-12 10:59:48,">>120763965 >universality of hierarchy But it's not universal at all. It's only universal where it is made law and enforced by violence. >>120763640 >so how exactly are you proposing to remove hierarchy? With democracy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491994788 120737539,120764537,2017-04-12 11:01:02,">>120764394 >With democracy. So you're proposing to remove hierarchy with hierarchy",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491994862 120737539,120764657,2017-04-12 11:02:10,">>120764537 And how is democracy hierarchy?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491994930 120737539,120764677,2017-04-12 11:02:22,">>120764537 You can have a democracy where everyone is equal, like Switzerland. Or you can have a dictocracy like Russia.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491994942 120737539,120764680,2017-04-12 11:02:26,">>120764394 Do you mean a direct democratic system by which decisions are made democratically, or a representative democracy? The latter one seems like hierarchy to me, unless we are operating under different definitions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491994946 120737539,120764736,2017-04-12 11:03:01,">>120764180 >That's not how the real world works. Not an argument >Stop assuming we are super humans. He didn't >If that were the case, nobody would use courts even today. >If there was a better system we'd already use it. Why do statists only come up with strawmen when they try to """"argue""""?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491994981 120737539,120764836,2017-04-12 11:03:56,">>120764170 You can prevent murder by ensuring that the agressor will die if he fucks with you,not pre-emptive strikes,I don't remember that the security in my supermarket chased me down me for not shaving because I looked like an Islamist",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491995036 120737539,120764935,2017-04-12 11:04:59,">>120764680 I mean a direct democratic system.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491995099 120737539,120764951,2017-04-12 11:05:08,">>120764836 >point a gun at someone >they cannot shoot you unless you actually pull the trigger all the way",,Anonymous,˸^).gif,EEF2CpzC3O4Yi69PkLMndg==,PL,,1491995108 120737539,120764982,2017-04-12 11:05:28,"How can you defend libertarianism knowing that human beings evolved to be nationalists? A regimented society is in our blood",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491995128 120737539,120765200,2017-04-12 11:07:45,">>120764180 >That's not how the real world works. If that were the case, nobody would use courts even today. Stop assuming we are super humans. We use courts because there are conflicting opinions on the interpretation of contracts, I'm not assuming the end of conflicts, I'm assuming that prosperous places will win most of these conflicts because their contracts will be robust. Please no strawmen, I believe I was extremely clear with the argument. >>120764657 One person proposes, everyone votes, everyone does if accepted. This leads to people having constant support due to more popular opinions, generating a parliamentary state de facto. If this isn't hiearchy, then me proposing my workers to do X and having 3 of the 5 agree with me is not hierarchy therefore capitalism is allowed.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491995265 120737539,120765246,2017-04-12 11:08:10,">>120764366 I still don't exactly get your question. If, in the impossible case, this mega corp did own an entire continent, they did so obviously by means of productive activity in which would have been abandoned if something bad happened in the executive levels of the company. In any case, they could not grow to that (((size))) without government lobbying.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491995290 120737539,120765356,2017-04-12 11:09:11,">>120764951 Private security (as a stated in my supermarket exemple) don't point a gun at you,they will only when you would do shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491995351 120737539,120765361,2017-04-12 11:09:15,">>120764935 How would you respond to the ""tyranny of majority"" argument? Do you mean to say that if you are compelled against your will to follow the laws decided by a majority (of which you are not a part), you are not a member of a hierarchical system? When I talk of hierarchy, I mean that some people have authority over you. In my mind this includes when groups of people have authority over you. Do you disagree with that definition?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491995355 120737539,120765390,2017-04-12 11:09:28,">>120765246 >they could not grow to that (((size))) without government lobbying. Can you REALLY not forsee some corporation like Coca Cola expanding to control all resources and production on the whole continent?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491995368 120737539,120765558,2017-04-12 11:11:03,"There is a supply and demand for human genes If your particular genetic package falls out of favor, prices and wages will conspire to limit your fertility. This is what we're seeing today, where unskilled labor is getting outcompeted by mechanical labor. This is why the wealth gap continuously rises even though we're becoming richer and richer Of course in the end, even the upper class will not be immune from this. Humans will not long be the epitome of intelligence on Earth. When this happens, humanity will be replaced by various forms of post-human life Why is this a future we should accept? Why should someone's right to exist be predicated soley on their economic output?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491995463 120737539,120765573,2017-04-12 11:11:13,">>120765361 >How would you respond to the ""tyranny of majority"" argument? No such thing, you either agree to a democracy or you don't. If you don't, fuck off elsewhere.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491995473 120737539,120765612,2017-04-12 11:11:43,">>120765356 >Private security (as a stated in my supermarket exemple) don't point a gun at you Would they not be allowed to?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491995503 120737539,120765765,2017-04-12 11:13:15,">>120765612 What's the point ? The boss wants you to buy his shit,not to make you shit in your pants",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491995595 120737539,120765768,2017-04-12 11:13:18,">>120765573 Yes, but that does not mean that democracy is not hierarchical. If I willingly submit myself as a slave to a master, that does not mean there is no hierarchy present. Further, if you have an opt-out democracy, you might as well have no democracy at all because there is no enforcement of the rules/laws/decisions made by the democratic body.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491995598 120737539,120765825,2017-04-12 11:13:56,">>120765765 >The boss wants you to buy his shit,not to make you shit in your pants There's no better way to make someone buy shit than have armed guards point guns at them and scream ""BUY THIS SHIT RIGHT FUCKING NOW, FUCKING DO IT"" as marketing technique.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491995636 120737539,120765864,2017-04-12 11:14:18,">>120764736 >>120765200 Firms and people write contracts between each other. Everybody who writes contracts does so because they want relationships to be predictable and because they can agree on what each party should do beforehand. Still, the courts are overloaded with civil cases of disputes between companies, people and other institutions. Tell me why can't these private firms avoid disputes to begin with if contracts are not incomplete? It's a matter of interpretation and the fact that there are things that are not even written into contracts because you can't write everything into them.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491995658 120737539,120765910,2017-04-12 11:14:46,">>120765768 >Further, if you have an opt-out democracy, Ayo hol up nigger, are you suggesting there's no borders in that world? If you opt out of democracy, you can fuck off and live in the wilds beyond the democratic jurisdiction.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491995686 120737539,120765941,2017-04-12 11:15:05,Who /Kuehnelt-Leddihn/ here?,,Anonymous,kuehnelt-leddihn.jpg,Xz6rmXAQgSKkruk/Ki6qtQ==,CA,,1491995705 120737539,120765949,2017-04-12 11:15:07,">>120743579 >The US government, voted in by white people and ran by white people. Are you old enough to remember the last president?",,Anonymous,leftieloser.jpg,qxLAfql9rG16FiMfl40+Ew==,US,,1491995707 120737539,120766028,2017-04-12 11:15:51,">>120765825 Not to mention that humans evolved as nationalists, who are prone to social pressure. Marketers exploit this to hawk products on people they don't need, or want. The majority of people just follow the crown buying what their friends or society tell them. They are highly responsive to authority. People like this should not be left to the winds of the market",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491995751 120737539,120766061,2017-04-12 11:16:08,">>120765825 Nope He would run the fastest possible and nobody would buy your shit because you're a mad bitch",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491995768 120737539,120766073,2017-04-12 11:16:15,">>120765864 >private firms avoid disputes to begin They do, it's super common practice to settle things out of court with additional contracts and compensations.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491995775 120737539,120766126,2017-04-12 11:16:51,">>120765910 Then, if I understand you correctly, you are advocating for arbitrarily small communal societies. Do I have that right, or do you suppose that a large society could be functional in this system?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491995811 120737539,120766201,2017-04-12 11:17:27,">>120766061 >He would run the fastest possible and nobody would buy your shit because you're a mad bitch Not if leaving the store requires a payment to the toll booth if you don't buy anything.",,Anonymous,Bee urself.jpg,qiLgHcm9e3BX9leb7XaDjA==,PL,,1491995847 120737539,120766374,2017-04-12 11:19:07,">>120766126 >do you suppose that a large society could be functional in this system? I guess? I'm not a big fan of democuckracy since it quickly devolves into shitfests, but there's nothing inheretely preventing a world-wide democracy. At best you would have to segment the democratic votes into regions so if you don't like a region, you can fuck off elsewhere. So, democratic countries basically. Almost like we do now, funny isn't it?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491995947 120737539,120766406,2017-04-12 11:19:22,">>120765390 I have foresought this possibility, but with a pinch of common sense we can see most major corps today are ran by pedophile gangs who weaved their way into the government (at least mine) back in the 1880s. Considering the fact the dollar would instantly shit on itself, and that disturbing information, whence come to light will destroy most large institutions - they would cease to exist and someone would come along with pure intent to grab the scraps and start it right anew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491995962 120737539,120766429,2017-04-12 11:19:35,">>120765200 > then me proposing my workers Ah but here is the problem. In a private enterprise it simply does not matter how many of your workers agree with you, you can do whatever you want anyway even if they're unanimously against it. Thus is the importance of workplace democracy, by putting the onus of what to do on the workers rather than the private owner it cannot really be said to be hierarchical since everyone's vote has equal weight. >>120765361 I don't really give a fuck. As I see it all the worry about ""tyranny of the majority"" doesn't really advantage me at all, and rather advantages a very, very small and privileged minority. As far as I'm concerned it's a good thing, that's what we should want. > In my mind this includes when groups of people have authority over you. I don't think that makes very much sense. We live in a co-operative society, we're all co-dependent on each other by default. If this is your view then of course you might think hierarchy is universal, but this would make any concept of ""hierarchy"" so stretched as to be meaningless. However I would support the freedom of people to live innawoods without having to worry about participating in society.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491995975 120737539,120766536,2017-04-12 11:20:42,">>120766201 A supermarket who uses this méthods wouldn't last 3 weeks No ,even an hour Who the FUCK would go to a store when you must pay for doing Jack shit I feel like you are trying to play YuGi-Oh right now with me",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491996042 120737539,120766541,2017-04-12 11:20:45,">>120765864 Why are we still arguing if private firms can or can not avoid disputes? I said it clearly, you cannot avoid a dispute, you, however, can avoid losing disputes, and prosperous companies are usually those that don't lose all of their resources constantly in court, wouldn't you agree?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491996045 120737539,120766598,2017-04-12 11:21:17,">>120766374 This is the wrong way to think about society. Humans are not independent from their environment. Germans evolved to live in the environment of Germany. Removing them from this environment is like taking a fish out of a stream and leaving it to flop on the shoreline. People can almost feel it in their bones, the idea of the homeland",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491996077 120737539,120766848,2017-04-12 11:21:40,">>120766374 You seem to imply that people could fluidly opt in or out of laws they dislike by moving from one region to the other. This is nothing at all like our current democratic system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491996100 120737539,120766859,2017-04-12 11:21:46,">>120766536 >A supermarket who uses this méthods wouldn't last 3 weeks Not if it's the only store within 50km radius.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491996106 120737539,120766895,2017-04-12 11:22:03,">>120766429 If you vote for fucking over others don't excpect them to not do the same",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491996123 120737539,120766898,2017-04-12 11:22:04,">>120766073 Exactly. And that's even another issue because you are admitting you will never be independent when it comes to contractual matters just like you aren't with your health. However, they are using arbitrators which are experts in the current state enforced law. That's not a good example, as the main issue is not interpretation of existing law but what one should do when missing provisions provide you no guidance. There is still guidance when you work with arbitrators.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491996124 120737539,120766967,2017-04-12 11:22:45,">>120766848 >You seem to imply that people could fluidly opt in or out of laws they dislike by moving from one region to the other. If you don't like EU you can move to US instead and vice versa. Yes it takes some visa fuckery, but we're not living in the ideal democuckratic world that I was talking about.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491996165 120737539,120767093,2017-04-12 11:23:54,">>120766967 No, in a society of private property like you describe, you can only move where you are invited",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491996234 120737539,120767148,2017-04-12 11:24:22,">>120766429 So to circumvent your rule against hierarchy all I need to do is make sure the number of unconditional supporters in my private enterprise is superior to the number of people who might not agree with me. Holy shit does this sound like a state.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491996262 120737539,120767209,2017-04-12 11:25:03,">>120766541 The fact you cannot avoid disputes means you cannot simply answer away all criticism using the word ""contracts"" like you did in >>120761908",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491996303 120737539,120767219,2017-04-12 11:25:10,">>120766429 co-operative, sure, but what about people who disagree on moral issues? One group votes that drugs are a public safety hazard and should be banned, one group disagrees, etc. In that case, one group is dominated by another, hence the large group being tyrannical over the minority group. Such disputes arise frequently today. How would these disputes be resolved if not by authority (of a group, if not a person)? Do you think people are likely to simply arrive at a compromise?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491996310 120737539,120767332,2017-04-12 11:26:12,">>120766859 >a shop is Owned by a mad bitch who make you pay tolls >it's expensive as fuck >a guy open his shop next to it >super Nice and No tolls >everybody buys his shit >the store of the mad bitch crashes It's fucking basics exonomics,of the 18th century",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491996372 120737539,120767336,2017-04-12 11:26:13,">>120767093 It would be a pretty petty and squabbling democracy if there would be no public roads. Soon a government would form for efficiency and taxes would be inevitable.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491996373 120737539,120767391,2017-04-12 11:26:44,">>120767332 >a guy open his shop next to it How would that happen if I own the entire 50km radius of the city?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1491996404 120737539,120767548,2017-04-12 11:28:20,"Free Markets are a lie. Markets are created by rulers to advance their agendas by motivating people with self interest instead of force. If you want markets you need to think about how to construct the markets that will serve your ends. A ""free"" market is just a market controlled by someone else for their ends.",,Anonymous,,,DO,,1491996500 120737539,120767571,2017-04-12 11:28:32,">>120767148 Well no because the enemy isn't just hierarchy, it also includes private enterprise. This is basically the mission-statement of socialism. I don't get how you think private ownership is acceptable provided the workers who hierarchically work for you are hand-picked to be classcucks, it's still private ownership. We're getting into creationist level misunderstandings here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491996512 120737539,120767602,2017-04-12 11:28:52,">>120765825 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lKuugZCD6A",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1491996532 120737539,120767693,2017-04-12 11:29:46,">>120767548 drop the orwellian double speak faggot. learn some etymology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491996586 120737539,120767726,2017-04-12 11:30:09,">>120767391 Then everybody would fuck off because 50 km away there are nice people who wants to out compete the mad bitch",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1491996609 120737539,120767728,2017-04-12 11:30:10,">>120766898 >However, they are using arbitrators which are experts in the current state enforced law. They settle out of court. State laws don't matter, only interests. They use state law as way to negotiate of course, but they could also use, privately enforced law of a community. Private courts would still follow law, which is contractual law, and thus, those expert would guide themselves with contractual law. In case of breach, self-defense is the answer. Either termination of contract and loss of reputation of the criminal party, and thus, loss of resources of fight, OR, removal of the criminal party from the premises of said community",,Anonymous,1490440981890.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1491996610 120737539,120767835,2017-04-12 11:31:17,">>120767209 I don't follow the logic here. In the example of said post you could perfectly go to court and claim you didn't break the contract and therefore you should not be thrown off a helicopter. Doesn't mean you will win. Saying that contracts solve issues is not correct because there might be conflicts? Are you claiming contracts are useless?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491996677 120737539,120767901,2017-04-12 11:31:50,">>120767219 I'm not a statist. I don't think people should be empowered to vote in multi-million person entities like countries. Rather I think they should have control over what's immediately relevant to them, like their workplace or their apartment bloc. With the absence of a state such disputes are basically moot.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491996710 120737539,120768526,2017-04-12 11:37:48,">>120767901 So your solution to the hierarchy problem is to do away with the state and have democratic communes, right? I believe that is how we got onto this topic of conversation. What it boils down to is that you have an ideological solution to the hierarchy problem, but you have no practical solution. Your ideological solution is rather weak, and it does not discuss dispute resolution--one of the spheres in which outside authority is almost always necessary, no matter the scale of your democratic society. Perhaps I have gotten the wrong idea, feel free to correct me if I mis-characterized your view.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491997068 120737539,120768872,2017-04-12 11:41:02,">>120767571 But we were talking about hierarchy, you claimed democracy is not hierarchy, and I demonstrated that democracy can perfectly lead to hierarchy. Now you're changing goalpost and claiming that freedom of association is forbidden, too, under your ""anarchy"", I will be forced to summit to your democratic rulings even if I reject your authority over me.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491997262 120737539,120769369,2017-04-12 11:45:35,">>120768526 >No practical solution. I don't see how it isn't a practical solution. Work, the state and landlords are all quite shit. The people of the world are largely unanimous on this. This much is clear. From that the solution seems obvious. We should decide amongst ourselves how to make it better, and what better way to do that than with democracy? >and it does not discuss dispute resolution As said, dispute resolution in your example is moot. It presumes such a system would resemble our society in a way that it simply wouldn't. And more importantly authority doesn't resolve disputes. It just negates the problem since only one person's say now matters. Having some means of communication and democracy in which the people may reach a consensus is a much better solution. It might not always work, but at least it can actually the problem.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491997535 120737539,120769624,2017-04-12 11:48:10,">>120767835 I'm claiming they are not a panacea like you seem to think.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491997690 120737539,120769705,2017-04-12 11:48:54,">>120767728 They negotiate based on state laws. Change the laws and you change the negotiations.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1491997734 120737539,120769828,2017-04-12 11:50:09,">>120769369 I should have clarified: in that post I was talking about interpersonal disputes--you stole my car, or you hit my dog with your truck--that sort of thing. In those cases, arbitration is usually used. Yes it is a mutually selected authority, but it is an authority nonetheless. Maybe work and states and landlords, etc, are indeed entirely shit. I am not arguing that, I am chiefly arguing that hierarchy is quite difficult to get rid of, no matter what your other economic/governmental views. Democracy may indeed provide some solutions, but democratic rules must be enforced, no? If they are not enforced, why have democracy? If they are enforced, does this not imply hierarchy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491997809 120737539,120769880,2017-04-12 11:50:34,">>120768872 >and I demonstrated that democracy can perfectly lead to hierarchy. You did not but. This is what I'm telling you. Your premises are fundamentally flawed since how the fuck is it democracy when the workers are hired and work for one person? That's just regular old capitalism, and it betrays your misunderstanding of what socialism is. At no point in your hypothetical example was there ever democracy. You hierarchically hired the workers, they work for you in a hierarchical relationship, if your example was of how hierarchy can sustain itself then I see what you mean. But at no point did you ever demonstrate how this is supposed to be democratic. >freedom of association is forbidden If by that you mean private property then that was opening post, it's not really shifting the goalposts when I made that clear from the start.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491997834 120737539,120769975,2017-04-12 11:51:24,">>120769705 >Change the laws and you change the negotiations. Yes, and? Your point being??",,Anonymous,1491689116090.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,PT,,1491997884 120737539,120770490,2017-04-12 11:56:07,">>120769828 Just because there's no state doesn't mean there can be no courts. In the case of interpersonal disputes this system seems to work petty good. I understand hierarchy is difficult to get rid of. Indeed any kind of anarchist utopia is probably never going to be realized in my lifetime. But it's not really a matter of what's easy so much as a matter of what's right. > If they are enforced, does this not imply hierarchy? Not really. Your say mattered just as much as anyone else's, and the fact that less people disagreed with you doesn't make you any less institutionally empowered.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491998167 120737539,120770901,2017-04-12 11:59:46,">>120769624 I never said contracts are a panacea or will protect you from everything, I said successful companies (or private communities/covenants, like in the example) will tend to be the ones who write contracts that are harder to win a dispute against. >>120769880 Oh but I did. What is your commune but a big private enterprise? All you need is to establish hierarchy by having unconditional supporters, which is the natural tendency of human interaction, and all of the sudden democracy is just a few guys ruling and others doing. You see? I used private enterprise example because I was 100% sure that you would concede it much earlier, that hierarchy can be born within democracy, but it is literally the same for the public sphere. >If by that you mean private property then that was opening post, it's not really shifting the goalposts when I made that clear from the start. Where does the commune end? Where should I go to escape your hierarchical rule over my body and the production of it? If I'm not free to associate and dissociate from the commune, you're de facto imposing a hierarchy over me that I did not agree to.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491998386 120737539,120771408,2017-04-12 12:04:23,">>120770901 Okay, and how do you plan on getting unconditional supporters within a non-hierarchical democratic framework? This is the part I'm unclear on. >What is your commune but a big private enterprise? Well not a private enterprise. It's not privately owned by anyone. Does this need to be explained to you? >Where does the commune end? Where should I go to escape your hierarchical rule over my body and the production of it? If I'm not free to associate and dissociate from the commune, you're de facto imposing a hierarchy over me that I did not agree to. The commune ends where society ends, in the wilderness. If you're not willing to participate in society co-operatively and accept the social contract then just live innawoods.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1491998663 120737539,120771588,2017-04-12 12:06:00,">>120759610 then that violates nap, so we shoot em with recreational m-16's",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491998760 120737539,120771788,2017-04-12 12:07:55,">>120760931 as their employer, you would also violate nap, the same way a general is held responsible for his soldier's actions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1491998875 120737539,120772185,2017-04-12 12:11:13,">>120771408 >Okay, and how do you plan on getting unconditional supporters within a non-hierarchical democratic framework? This is the part I'm unclear on. Being a populist. Eventually I will support a vote for representative democracy and that we should elect someone to take decisions because these are very time-consuming. >Well not a private enterprise. It's not privately owned by anyone. Does this need to be explained to you? It is privately owned by the members of said commune. In my example the private enterprise was also ruled democratically. >The commune ends where society ends, in the wilderness. If you're not willing to participate in society co-operatively and accept the social contract then just live innawoods. And what happens if a lot of people agree with me and come innawoods to form a capitalist society?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1491999073 120937058,120937058,2017-04-13 13:44:29,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ [Embed] h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs [Embed] Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A [Embed] Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed] Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU [Embed] I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A [Embed] Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc [Embed] Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - A PRIORI TRUTH EDITION,Anonymous,1490829201743.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,CA,,1492091069 120937058,120937163,2017-04-13 13:45:21,,,Anonymous,1491694092039.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,CA,,1492091121 120937058,120937304,2017-04-13 13:46:31,,,Anonymous,1491891724362.png,FLQZpZL/imjJJIRfu8BWEw==,CA,,1492091191 120937058,120937498,2017-04-13 13:48:04,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,CA,,1492091284 120937058,120937646,2017-04-13 13:49:11,,,Anonymous,1491675143959.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,CA,,1492091351 120937058,120937784,2017-04-13 13:50:19,"I spent all day listening to Hoppe seminars during work, planned cryptocurrency mining operations over lunch, and I have the day off tomorrow to go to the funrange and shoot some shit. How does anyone not love being a capitalist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492091419 120937058,120938052,2017-04-13 13:52:44,">>120937784 >How does anyone not love being a capitalist? Freedom truly is a beautiful thing",,Anonymous,1491675080410.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,CA,,1492091564 120937058,120938206,2017-04-13 13:53:52,How is Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell not mentioned yet?,,Anonymous,be.jpg,HvPkqu3IXYbQiyh/DkN80g==,US,,1492091632 120937058,120939708,2017-04-13 14:05:17,">>120938206 It's a good book, it was my first economics read",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492092317 120937058,120939832,2017-04-13 14:06:05,">>120938206 Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt was mentioned",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492092365 120937058,120940305,2017-04-13 14:09:37,,,Anonymous,1480266939391.png,mr+PS/Grx24iBpNxH5Pjcw==,PT,,1492092577 120937058,120940385,2017-04-13 14:10:11,Muh (((free market))),,Anonymous,1.png,nIYx4Nwy6E09tlHc6WKDwg==,BR,,1492092611 120937058,120940562,2017-04-13 14:11:41,">>120940385 How do these companies support gay marriage?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492092701 120937058,120941580,2017-04-13 14:19:07,">>120940385 If people demand faggotry, of course the market will provide it",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492093147 120937058,120941734,2017-04-13 14:20:23,>He still hasn't grown up yet,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492093223 120937058,120941802,2017-04-13 14:20:57,">>120941734 >he's still a statist cuckold",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492093257 120937058,120941809,2017-04-13 14:21:00,Liberatarian right as opposed to what? Libertarian left doesn't exist.,,Anonymous,,,AR,,1492093260 120937058,120942237,2017-04-13 14:24:15,">>120941809 >Libertarian left doesn't exist. small to no state government and collectivist economics. It can exist, provided the small gov/people aggressively enforce socialist policies. The idea exists, but its retarded",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492093455 120937058,120942312,2017-04-13 14:24:52,">>120937058 Hey Leaf the Smut Peddlers called, Gish said you can't use their logo for your thread.",,Anonymous,logo.jpg,kALSfuAxFAHJBFkrfP6BJw==,US,,1492093492 120937058,120942513,2017-04-13 14:26:30,">>120937058 >and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS Nope.",,Anonymous,Hoppe fags aren't serious.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,US,,1492093590 120937058,120942691,2017-04-13 14:27:42,">>120942312 If by this post you're trying to imply that I'm violating the copyright policy thereby being a hypocrite (because of this notion that copyright laws would exist in a libertarian society), you're wrong",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492093662 120937058,120943560,2017-04-13 14:34:28,">all the shills ITT You're all gonna get helicopter'd By the way guys I'm doing the new Hoppewave song. Can any of you Macfags make one of those robot voices saying ""PHYSICALLY. REMOVED."" so I can loop it a few times? It's that voice you hear in those Can't Stump the Trump videos.",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1492094068 120937058,120944010,2017-04-13 14:37:50,">>120943560 >Can any of you Macfags make one of those robot voices saying ""PHYSICALLY. REMOVED."" so I can loop it a few times? It's that voice you hear in those Can't Stump the Trump videos. I really like this idea, but I think ""PHYSICAL REMOVAL"" would sound better. Thats just my opinion though; do whatever you like",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492094270 120968915,120968915,2017-04-13 17:49:39,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg After 9000 hours in Paint, the new song is here. Based Hoppeans spread the good word. Physically remove the communist faggots who threaten our white bourgeois libertarian social order! https://vid.me/mQN6 https://vid.me/mQN6 https://vid.me/mQN6 pls upload it like you always do, with the meme lettering and all. Hoppe you enjoy",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: NEW HOPPEWAVE EDITION,Anonymous,lrg.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,PT,,1492105779 120968915,120969720,2017-04-13 17:55:54,,,Anonymous,ancap squad_00000.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1492106154 120968915,120970764,2017-04-13 18:03:43,shameless bump,,Anonymous,anarcho-cute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1492106623 121017272,121017272,2017-04-14 00:22:55,"NEWS Ron Paul Liberty Report http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives Foundation for Economic Education https://fee.org/articles Mises Institute https://mises.org/wire Zero Hedge http://www.zerohedge.com/ VIDEOS Ron Paul Amazing ""What If?"" Speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjuUWr9vaXo Libertarianism: An Introduction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki9QiPw7gB4 Gary Johnson's funniest moments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72zMVsd9MFg Rand Paul Unveils His Brilliant Replacement Plan for Obamacare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQAp5zPS2S0",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,Strawman Memes.jpg,p24eOLuNoYrUsY7MVz3akQ==,US,,1492129375 121017272,121018257,2017-04-14 00:32:37,">>121017272 /ptg/ is the eternal cucking thread. They dont listen to common sense (pun).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492129957 121041479,121041479,2017-04-14 05:34:26,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - THE NATURAL ORDER,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1492148066 121041479,121041976,2017-04-14 05:41:05,>>121041479,,Anonymous,ulHYj6m.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,AU,,1492148465 121041479,121042016,2017-04-14 05:41:28,>>121041976,,Anonymous,1491991499186.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,AU,,1492148488 121041479,121042057,2017-04-14 05:42:03,">>121041479 Just cashed out 200,000 USD for some boy for a 2,5% reward. Feels good man. Fuck taxes. Fresh ""criminal"" notes going into my backpack just make it farmer",,Anonymous,IMG_5463.jpg,Oq0WHjS9TiuVNlL7V4VXBg==,RU,,1492148523 121041479,121042144,2017-04-14 05:43:14,>it's another autistic ancaps try to fit in using forced memes thread,,Anonymous,1487602277348.png,Xkcj9hDLLSkdlkg5xfd+nw==,GB,,1492148594 121041479,121042224,2017-04-14 05:44:20,Roads are gay,,Anonymous,image.jpg,nnlrQua341avnAdNiKXKXw==,FR,,1492148660 121041479,121042263,2017-04-14 05:45:02,">>121042144 trying to fit into your asshole, fuck off shill.",,Anonymous,GOYs.png,A+U0uc+5K8sDTutQZm9GLw==,US,,1492148702 121041479,121042276,2017-04-14 05:45:15,"This BTFOs the AnCap http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionFIntro",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492148715 121041479,121042329,2017-04-14 05:45:56,">>121042057 What?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492148756 121041479,121042338,2017-04-14 05:46:01,">>121041976 >reading jew written bullshit Jews have some negroid ancestors down the line, so it's pretty disgusting to read anything by them. >>121042263 Whether Hayek was a niggerkike is debatable",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492148761 121041479,121042447,2017-04-14 05:47:30,">>121042338 >Implying Slavs are better.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492148850 121041479,121042450,2017-04-14 05:47:35,">>121042276 >Anarcho-feminist website what the fuck are you doing reading this trash.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492148855 121041479,121042476,2017-04-14 05:47:59,,,Anonymous,1492042576170.png,rQSvWqkFzpJGTYwhv6vdYw==,GB,,1492148879 121041479,121042507,2017-04-14 05:48:22,">>121042450 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492148902 121041479,121042536,2017-04-14 05:48:46,,,Anonymous,1490680120288.png,hRch28jTgQXcrCfmAKqfMQ==,GB,,1492148926 121041479,121042646,2017-04-14 05:50:25,">>121042507 >>121042476 >>121042536 >Not an Argument >Begins posting straw man argument memes.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492149025 121041479,121042762,2017-04-14 05:52:01,">>121042447 >implyin they are not Namely Russians are one of the only groups to rival Northwestern Europeans in terms of genetics and human achievements. Jews are disgusting. They are stupid, often insane, they have bad work ethnic. Their ancestors are niggers. They are niggers. Instead of demanding dem reparations for dem slabery, dey scream for muh ""Shoah"". Yeah Jews are niggers When you look at someone and you know that he or she has nigger ancestor, you can't help but wonder: ""fuck just how fucking subhuman his genetic memerory is?""",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492149121 121041479,121042872,2017-04-14 05:53:42,">>121042507 Marxism is trash Class theory is shit Labor Value theory is literal retardation You will only ever acheive egalitarianism when we are all equally dead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492149222 121041479,121042962,2017-04-14 05:54:53,">>121042762 >Russian calling other people niggers",,Anonymous,People_living_with_HIV_AIDS_world_map.png,NXqiWF1RFR/fx5efT4reWg==,AU,,1492149293 121041479,121042976,2017-04-14 05:55:09,">>121042762 >human achievement",,Anonymous,Slavs.jpg,4/yHp5hkYLkvEDbzNp4c6g==,US,,1492149309 121041479,121043229,2017-04-14 05:58:27,">>121042762 your genetics are garbage.",,Anonymous,rusnogs.jpg,RglK2X2G/YP2suOCpy7m3w==,US,,1492149507 121041479,121043385,2017-04-14 06:00:41,">>121042962 Russians don't have nigger ancestors. Jews do. Jews are fucking useless nigger. Don't be so triggered. Everyone who worked with them or anywhere near financial sector, knows that they are braindead subhumans kept afloat only by ethnic nepotism >>121042976 America has even bigger white trash problems >Russia >world renowned literature >one of the first to create segregation in Europe >unapologetically anti-jewish prior to 1917 >crushed Swedish Empire, Napoleonic France and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth >composers >theatre >ballet >biggest country in the world >first man in space >father of chemistry and pharmacy >Jews >some meme plagiariser scientist, inbreeding and getting blacked in SPQR",,Anonymous,IMG_5816.jpg,XU+aoRsmxVTdzbWACcAt3Q==,RU,,1492149641 121041479,121043543,2017-04-14 06:02:52,">>121043229 The difference is Russians sent a man in to space and niggers can't read cursive.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492149772 121041479,121043581,2017-04-14 06:03:31,">>121043229 Those are ethnic minorities on the left. If you to post white trash, use at least ethnic Russian one. Trump voting rural and suburban retards not even once https://youtube.com/watch?v=bYUIAXCiQCI https://youtube.com/watch?v=2ELqp4LALkI",,Anonymous,IMG_5030.jpg,62hO17ydXjc9j1c6j0I0Rg==,RU,,1492149811 121041479,121043690,2017-04-14 06:05:10,">>121043581 Pic probably has aids.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492149910 121041479,121043706,2017-04-14 06:05:21,">>121043581 Would fug. What does this has to do with libertarianism though?",,Anonymous,image.jpg,/2P08727noDxHeT9o9CaJw==,FR,,1492149921 121041479,121043779,2017-04-14 06:06:14,">>121043385 >unapologetically anti-jewish prior to 1917 and dont forget it, your country was overrun with kikes. >first man in space Under communist kike rule, you didn't do that shit. >>121043543 again That wasn't ethnic russians that was the soviet kikes that sent a man into space.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492149974 121041479,121043810,2017-04-14 06:06:42,How does a libertarian society defend itself from actual nations?,,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,8dkMe+YEWmwkXWvZ3RGiCA==,NL,,1492150002 121041479,121043986,2017-04-14 06:09:16,">>121043779 >That wasn't ethnic russians that was the soviet kikes that sent a man into space. There should be some source on that, my man. >when you are insane, nigger and 5'7 And Stalin was cracking down on kikes pretty good. Read a book, suburban retard >>121043706 That Jews are inferior niggers and reading their insane rumblings is not a good way to spend your time?",,Anonymous,IMG_5478.jpg,gcN2NOD6tTNLdbpcBmL/Ow==,RU,,1492150156 121041479,121043992,2017-04-14 06:09:19,">>121043810 The NAP and countries like costa rica don't even have a military and hasn't been invaded by its neighbours. Also people are allowed to own fully automatic rifles in a libertarian society.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492150159 121041479,121044029,2017-04-14 06:09:56,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492150196 121041479,121044161,2017-04-14 06:11:48,">>121043986 >stalin was a good boy. he was an honarary aryan. fucking dropped. fuck on outta here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492150308 121041479,121044282,2017-04-14 06:13:16,">>121043810 The average IQ of those, who subscribe to this totalitarian cultist ideology it is even worse than their racial makeup. Usually some mongrel middle class subhuman retards, that think that they would make it in a libertarian society; and not realising, that, we the people with good financial background, find them disgusting looking and subhuman",,Anonymous,IMG_3120.gif,nDijMQdnbaSVoGHzIoRkkQ==,RU,,1492150396 121041479,121044351,2017-04-14 06:14:13,">>121044161 Who said that, retard? Kikes didn't rule much past 1937. Claim stupid shit - be called out for being a subhuman retard that you are.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492150453 121041479,121044492,2017-04-14 06:16:17,">>121044351 Stalin was Georgian subhuman, look up his birth place.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492150577 121041479,121044531,2017-04-14 06:16:47,">>121042276 venom slinging and fallacious arguements. scroll down to see some article about how ferguson was about racist white cops.... really b t f o",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492150607 121041479,121044669,2017-04-14 06:18:33,">>121044492 Yes he was. Who calls him Russian,""le based"" or anything else here? Inbreeding prevents development of the reading skills, kikenigger?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492150713 121041479,121044725,2017-04-14 06:19:22,">>121044351 Whatever, faggot. Go peach your love of bolshevism to your friends at the communism general",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492150762 121041479,121044820,2017-04-14 06:20:37,">>121044669 Well you do got a point, race mixing is fucking disgusting.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492150837 121041479,121044923,2017-04-14 06:22:00,">>121043986 I see your point >>121044282 That's not what totalitarian means though, a totalitarian regime uses all it's countrymen ressources to achieve a common goal, with or without their consent. Ancaps are literally the opposite",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492150920 121041479,121045088,2017-04-14 06:24:24,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1492151064 121041479,121045217,2017-04-14 06:26:22,">>121043992 >>121044029 >the NAP this isnt a kindergarten >fully automatic weapons Some autistic pedos with m16's cannot fight against an actual military >costa rica This is not a sutuation that can be replicated in many places on earth, it would mean that al libertarian states need to be irrelevant or have allies with actual millitaries to survive",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492151182 121041479,121045512,2017-04-14 06:30:36,">>121044923 Ancaps are totalitarian in thinking. It's a fucking prison mind. They will sacrifice practical solutions for the sake of ideology. Personally, I support anything that brings down the eugenic culling and keeps my plentiful shekels safe. >>121044725 It was you to praise kikenigger communism as some sort of invention inducing system, nog loving mongrel Trumptard >>121043779",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492151436 121041479,121045550,2017-04-14 06:31:12,">>121044725 My bad confused you with some other guy",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492151472 121041479,121045594,2017-04-14 06:31:41,">>121045217 what about a privately owned military don't you get? im not talking about rednecks with guns im talking real military power. http://www.securitydegreehub.com/30-most-powerful-private-security-companies-in-the-world/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492151501 121041479,121045644,2017-04-14 06:32:33,">>121044029 A few private armies with not even everyone putting money in with paid mercenaries will not be able to defeat a mass mobilized total war industry. I'll like to see a private military build something as extensive as the Magnoit line then maintain 24/7 all year round. mercenary troops historically suck arse and flee or switch sides the first signs the battles turning the other way Not to mention each private military company will be under their own ""CEO's"" leadership therefore diving up the army even more. ""I'm not sending my mcdonalds army defense force there you send your kfc troops there""",,Anonymous,Maginot-cutaway-NYT-imaginary-2.jpg,QRw9IB5LrEBop81sxH0SvA==,AU,,1492151553 121041479,121045836,2017-04-14 06:35:24,">>121045217 Are you referring to ancap society, some libertarian societies still have government like a minarchy or libertarian capitalist. Today wars most of the time aren't worth fighting considering they plunge countries far into debt. The Iraq war costed the US 6 trillion dollars and still haven't payed it all back and their debt continue to rise. Only stupid under development african countries will wage war for no reason. People on both sides lose more than gain in war today.",,Anonymous,Federal_Debt_Held_by_the_Public_1790-2013.png,KfSesoxi7YS+iqZTp1tERg==,AU,,1492151724 121041479,121046038,2017-04-14 06:38:09,">>121045088 Heil Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492151889 121041479,121046122,2017-04-14 06:39:35,">>121045644 there are currently multi-billion dollar private militaries that im sure are capable of contructing such a bunker. The military HAS to be divided up into different commanders, this is historical fact. do you think the world wars were organised soley by the leaders of the nations involved? no they have a chain of command, the military is divided up so it is more manageable by more people moreover just because militaries are divided doesn;t make them incapable of communicating and working together.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492151975 121041479,121046330,2017-04-14 06:42:40,">>121046038 Heil Rothbard, we need to have a ceremony to make him an honorary white. he's been proven to be anti-zionist/socialist/globalist and i think its right to consider him a friend to the white man.",,Anonymous,Gg6Jn_kEfmCWpIkWw307xX3Tr8QMjJy21IKI7FRMyX0.jpg,hiRP4lPTTkAf2UvjY0VF9Q==,US,,1492152160 121041479,121046567,2017-04-14 06:46:05,">>121045594 >G4S describes itself as “the world’s leading global security and outsourcing group,” specializing “in outsourcing of business processes in sectors where security and safety risks are considered a strategic threat.” The British multinational security giant was set up in 2004 when London-based company Securicor amalgamated with Danish business Group 4 Falck. Currently, G4S employs more than 620,000 people, which makes it the third biggest employer in the private sector globally. In 2012 G4S turned over well over $12 billion. The company offers a range of services, including the supply of security personnel, monitoring equipment, response units and secure prisoner transportation. G4S also works with governments overseas to deliver security. >620,000 people Smaller then Israel's,Iraq's,Columbia's,Thailand's and cuba's armed forces. And that's assuming 100% of this are combat troops and not just desk jockeys. Yeah hiring mercenaries worked out real good for the native Britons just ask the Anglo-Saxons they made real good mercenaries for the Roman/Britons. what's to say the ceo of a military company won't just say fuck your rules I'm king now. Fucking meme ideology. Hey guys lets call it ancap because anarchism capitalism reminds me of the anarchist part. Yeah anarchism works real good",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492152365 121041479,121046827,2017-04-14 06:49:40,">>121046330 nigger gene is strong with this subhuman jew. That stupid kike supporting selling kids. He was by far a intellectually bankrupt moron",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492152580 121041479,121046903,2017-04-14 06:50:48,">>121046567 now imagine you didn't have a national military, you would invest heavily on these companies. they would be larger and less restricted in their weaponry. >what's to say the ceo of a military company won't just say fuck your rules I'm king. implying these companies aren't mostly made of citizens of the region they are protecting. I don't believe the foot soldiers would take orders from a CEO to kill their own families and neigbors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492152648 121041479,121046911,2017-04-14 06:50:55,">>121045512 >ancaps are totalitarian in thinking Can't argue with that >I support anything that brings down the eugenic culling and keeps my plentiful shekels safe. You can't have your cake and eat it, a state which supports moral stances such as eugenics is highly likely to have a pretty clear idea of what you can or can't do with your money, that's not what I would call safe",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492152655 121041479,121047033,2017-04-14 06:52:31,">>121046567 >it's small now therefore it will always be small, forever!!! 11111 xd Child tier reasoning, grow up",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492152751 121041479,121047186,2017-04-14 06:54:32,">>121046827 read my words carefully. If you sell your children, you are a subhuman peice of shit. however it is more ethical to give your child to another caregiver rather than to neglect them. Doesn't matter anyway, Rothbard never sold any children.",,Anonymous,1491700315223s.jpg,+qYSYhOSmPMFzpZnuXeOKQ==,US,,1492152872 121041479,121047351,2017-04-14 06:56:34,">>121047186 >reading and defending a demented shit written by a heavily negroid jew Top kek",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492152994 121041479,121047517,2017-04-14 06:59:00,">>121046903 You signed a contract to obey me your commander in chief and chef MC Donald's mc army division. I can now shoot you in the fucking head for violating the contract, and since I've hired from other parts of the country, or from minorities or from overseas and i pay them the wages which without them they would quite literally starve to death without, their only loyalty is to me. wow great logic just disobey the contract you signed to be apart of the armed forces therefore breaking the nap getting you and your family killed. >>121047033 A big group of armed people will never oppress the weak or small in numbered. Yeah Anglo Saxons were good mercenaries and army never go and extort other weak people. Child logic everyone will abide by the nap because i can defend myself against an entire army",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492153140 121041479,121047574,2017-04-14 06:59:53,">>121041479 >ROADS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492153193 121041479,121047693,2017-04-14 07:01:32,">>121047033 >Government is bad because too much power >The private militarily companies will grow extremely big and influential but they won't use this power to extort from people at all 10/10 logic",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492153292 121041479,121047710,2017-04-14 07:01:46,"I used to be a libertarian, but idk man, stoners ruined the movement. I'm kind of a lot more fascist now, authoritarian capitalist for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492153306 121041479,121048289,2017-04-14 07:09:36,">>121047693 The private military's power is derived from their ability to serve their clients. The moment they cease to represents the interests of their consumers is the same moment their consumers jump ship.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492153776 121041479,121048391,2017-04-14 07:10:48,">>121047517 I would never agree/sign a contract to kill my own people. You're an idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492153848 121041479,121048450,2017-04-14 07:11:35,>>121047710,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1492153895 121041479,121048462,2017-04-14 07:11:47,">>121047693 False equivalence, not an argument >>121047710 This is RIGHT libertarian, not stoner A leppo tier reasoning. This thread generally advocates a small state to ensure protection of civil liberties, a judicial court of law and defense of the citizens. Not that these Australian shit posters realise that right libertarianism =/= anarcho capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492153907 121041479,121048591,2017-04-14 07:13:24,">>121048289 A big powerful company capable of maintaining expensive forts hundreds of thousands of soldiers,tanks,aircraft,ships logistics including, food,transport,admin,recruitment No extortion/corruption or abuse of power Choose one (1)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492154004 121041479,121048716,2017-04-14 07:15:15,">>121048391 Then your not getting paid dumbass and the company will hire a nigger or someone who needs the money more.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492154115 121041479,121048785,2017-04-14 07:16:05,Why is reddit filled with so many leftists?,,Anonymous,lsc.png,JNMcS6H7xndXDGFGLbh+OQ==,CA,,1492154165 121041479,121048787,2017-04-14 07:16:06,">>121048462 Tfw right-libertarian and ancap.",,Anonymous,Master_Race_0.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1492154166 121041479,121048897,2017-04-14 07:17:35,">>121048591 You have failed to grasp my point. The fact that the consumer can seek another provider, or choose not to pay at all makes corruption unsustainable. Corruption incurs additional expenses and leaves the organisation noncompetitive.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492154255 121041479,121048986,2017-04-14 07:18:36,">>121048787 >meritocracy Top shitpost",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492154316 121041479,121049061,2017-04-14 07:19:34,">>121048462 >right libertarian No such thing",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492154374 121041479,121049082,2017-04-14 07:19:49,">>121048785 The upvoting system. The most popular opinions get the most exposer and get propogated.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492154389 121041479,121049134,2017-04-14 07:20:34,">>121046827 he didn't support selling kids he supported selling kid contracts to responsible parents",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492154434 121041479,121049269,2017-04-14 07:22:23,">>121048716 Then I'll work for the military that doesn't have genociding my people on its agenda",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492154543 121041479,121049372,2017-04-14 07:23:49,">>121048897 Okay so you cannot have a giant company with no corruption or abuse just like you cannot have a giant state with no corruption as once a monopoly has guaranteed rule and no competition he can jack the prices up and start treating people like shit if he has a guaranteed customer base. That's the whole point of no intellectual rights and a very free market So now you must have several broken up military companies all vying for power so the free market effect kicks in therefore creating a sub par disunited military, which would lose to a mass conscripted total war economy. Good to see you guys are still retarded",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492154629 121041479,121049468,2017-04-14 07:25:15,A society build around individualism and consumerism will never ever be right wing NEVER,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492154715 121041479,121049544,2017-04-14 07:26:10,">>121049372 >makes some unsubstantiated claim about monopolies potentially forming. >advocates a guaranteed monopoly. You're the only retard here mate.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492154770 121041479,121049718,2017-04-14 07:28:20,">>121049468 What do you mean by right wing? We believe right wing = greater economic freedom.So by that definition a smaller state regardless of whatever the values espoused by the culture are is more right wing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492154900 121041479,121049750,2017-04-14 07:28:46,">>121049468 Everyone can start a company, how the fuck is that consumering?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492154926 121041479,121049808,2017-04-14 07:29:32,"The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. You must be successful, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Are you capable of raising children? Racial politics doesn’t have to be the only factor of your life. And if you can't achieve these things in your real life, then you are not ready to be a political activist, either online or in real life. Because if you can't make anything of your own, individual life, then how can you think you'll be able to make a real difference for the race, for the lives of many? Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet don't. Take care of yourself. Work your ass off, every day, to build a good life for you, and for your family. Spend your time wisely, and keep your real life priorities in order. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life. Your time on Earth is short and precious. Start planning on making the most of it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492154972 121041479,121049873,2017-04-14 07:30:30,">>121049750 Consumerism*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492155030 121041479,121049894,2017-04-14 07:30:43,">>121049061 >Implying natural law isn't the highest form of traditionalism.",,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1492155043 121041479,121050082,2017-04-14 07:33:08,">>121049544 A big company capable of actually defending against another super power. Has to have dominance. With dominance comes a monopoly and extortion. The other option Several smaller companies all vying for control will not be able to defend a country as well as one single entity >Government is bad because it's big and it's corrupt >But a big military company won't extort because of non existent other military comparisons because then it wouldn't be a big company. >And several small disunited ones won't extort because of free market but then it's shitting on the defense of your nation",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492155188 121041479,121050159,2017-04-14 07:34:08,">>121049468 Consumerism is what happens when you add inflation. An anarcho Capitalist society is by definition not consumerist, but saving money to capitalize. A state is what creates individualism. When was the last time you needed to interact in order to get job benefits for a group, when was the last time you needed to interact for a mutual insurance? Humans are not individualist, changing our nature would make us so.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492155248 121041479,121050189,2017-04-14 07:34:34,">>121049718 >rightwing = greater economic freedom Never heard something so absolutely retarded. The ""right wing"" is simply a reaction to the destruction of culture and tradition of the ""left wing"". Libertarianism stands for these very same principles >>121049718 Is this supposed to be an argument?",,Anonymous,1474085567261.png,9vN5zHVDxnuLkS+7mSgVhg==,NL,,1492155274 121041479,121050220,2017-04-14 07:34:58,">>121049894 muh natural law Yeah natural law until someone bigger comes along and fucks your """"""""""natrual"""""""""" laws in the arse. Yeah Ancap Tibet or Ukraine would survive bordering aggressive super powers",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492155298 121041479,121050419,2017-04-14 07:37:31,">>121050189 Last part was meant for >>121049750",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492155451 121041479,121050421,2017-04-14 07:37:32,">>121050220 The only alternative to natural law is animal law, which is what you just described: the biggest and strongest get to do whatever they want. When you reject natural law, you cannot complain when a nigger puts a gun against your chest and demands your money. He's stronger than you. By your logic, he's perfectly justified to do so.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492155452 121041479,121050445,2017-04-14 07:37:49,">>121050189 You're arguing semantics, it's hardly relevant. I'm describing what the consensus here is. You're just being a contrarian. Make an actual point or fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492155469 121041479,121050547,2017-04-14 07:39:24,">>121050445 >make an actual point I just did tard",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492155564 121041479,121050722,2017-04-14 07:41:18,">>121050220 Again you resort to barbarism, decivilization proving you are just valueless leftist scum. My private military will crush your commie uprising you fucking dindu.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492155678 121041479,121051031,2017-04-14 07:45:17,">>121050421 No you dumbcunt Animal law is what we have now to a degree. The people decided you being a nigger you cannot enter the country. By all means if you had a stronger army you could invade and if you won you could enter the country. We have that right fucking now. China did not give a shit about Tibet's """"""""""Natural"""""""""" laws. We live in the laws of animals now but they have been somewhat tamed by the government and the people. which even the concept of a government is an animalistic feature. A group of people gathered together and said this is how we are running our land here if you do not agree you get thrown in prison. That is by definition Strong>Weak The people decided I have the right to shoot a nigger if he points a gun at me, and since the majority of the people support this the people who do not support my ""right"" to do so cannot enforce it because they are weak and small in number they cannot run the country how they want",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492155917 121041479,121051185,2017-04-14 07:47:14,">>121051031 So you agree that if my tribe is stronger than your tribe, we get to cuck you very hard? Sounds like civilization to me. Now hand over dat cellphone",,Anonymous,cidade de deus.jpg,tbZwqPntN5FNaOO0nuQgbw==,BR,,1492156034 121041479,121051229,2017-04-14 07:47:55,">>121050722 If your not for autistic no government your a communist. Amazing logic the very definition of a strawman. Your natural laws exist only as long as you can enforce them yourself. If someone is stronger then you and wants to get rid of your ""rights"" he can",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492156075 121041479,121051234,2017-04-14 07:48:02,">>121050419 Yes, the point was that libertarian policies promote entreprenorship and the production of goods instead of being a wageslave and just consuming them, how is that consumerism?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492156082 121041479,121051281,2017-04-14 07:48:32,">>121050189 >Libertarianism stands for these very same principles Leftists are the ones attacking anyone who dares support traditional marriage, or says that transgenderism is a mental illness. Libertarians are the ones who stand in support of personal freedom and the right of free association.",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1492156112 121041479,121051519,2017-04-14 07:51:42,">>121051185 The problem is with you doing that you need to defeat the police force of Australia, and to defeat them you need to defeat the armed forces of Australia and all her allies. If you do all of that you can shoot me in the head all you want. If Isis was the strongest in the world they could do what they want to you. Do you disagree with that isis part? The government for all purposes is just isis they got the police the military and the majority of people to run the country how they want. Communists cannot live how they want because they are weak and we are strong",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492156302 121041479,121051715,2017-04-14 07:54:07,">>121051281 9/10 libertarianism will be used as license, to think otherwise is wishfull thinking. >>121051234 >instead of being a wageslave anon..... I......",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492156447 121041479,121051818,2017-04-14 07:55:17,">>121051185 And yes if your ""tribe"" aka country was stronger and wished to yes you could cuck me. The problem is you have to defeat our army. if you defeat our army and make us unconditionally surrender you can do what ever you want",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492156517 121041479,121051866,2017-04-14 07:55:56,">>121041479 ""When your ideology is so ridiculous and full of contradictions, that it can be absolutely BTFO by a single meme image that does not even have to use ad hominems or other fallacies""",,Anonymous,bed30e6eb952bc44431890d716bec5c7348cc93762d98a311450508748aa4b46.jpg,YvfuO45CQIEzJtrI0HwQXw==,DE,,1492156556 121041479,121051908,2017-04-14 07:56:30,">>121051715 Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492156590 121041479,121052025,2017-04-14 07:58:11,">>121051519 >The problem is with you doing that you need to defeat the police force of Australia, and to defeat them you need to defeat the armed forces of Australia and all her allies. TOP LEL I only need to defeat you. By the time you called the cops, I'm long gone. >he actually thinks the role of the police and armed forces is to defend its citizens cute Their job is to protect the government. Nothing else. >>121051818 What if I subverted and corrupted your tribe's authority so that they cuck you for me? Why kill you when I can just be a parasite? I actually want you as strong and healthy as possible. You must be fit for working hard for me.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492156691 121041479,121052059,2017-04-14 07:58:38,">>121051866 Can you describe what libertarianism or anarcho-capitalism is?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492156718 121041479,121052094,2017-04-14 07:59:07,">>121041479 When will you fags stop shitting up the board",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492156747 121041479,121052197,2017-04-14 08:00:24,">>121052059 >I can do whatever the fuck I want, as long as I can afford it: the ideaology",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492156824 121041479,121052253,2017-04-14 08:01:03,">>121052197 nice meme",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492156863 121041479,121052298,2017-04-14 08:01:38,">>121051866 How is that btfoing ancap? If a voluntary homogenous society were to form on such a scale it would be the greatest achievement in human history.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492156898 121041479,121052299,2017-04-14 08:01:38,">>121051866 I know this is bait but I'll bite >and own all the land So they bought it from individuals? You don't just start from ""owning land"". >anyone who wants to live on the land So they either buy it back from the ""corporation"" or they rent it? What is the issue here? A contract is formed between two individuals. They have total control and freedom over what rules and laws are enforced. >not called taxes No, in the same way that a landlord isn't a state, and you aren't a taxpayer as a renter. It is not extortion or theft. It is a contract. Despite all of this, this thread isn't /ancap/. So you can fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492156898 121041479,121052303,2017-04-14 08:01:41,">>121051908 When you muster the mental strenght make a non retarded argument I will respond accordingly",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492156901 121041479,121052505,2017-04-14 08:04:19,">>121052025 >Yes you steal my phone then run away >I call the police >You get caught because your a dumb nigger criminal >You go to jail because the majority of people believe you should go to jail rather then get your hands chopped off. Or >Your somehow stronger then police so you can steal the phone all you want There is no argument against this the strong still dictate who rules. The people are strong so they vote for a conservative government. The communists are weak and get no power. THE END >>121052025 Well that's what's happening right now isn't it Jews are cucking the world. But somehow thinking Jews cannot cuck large companies in a ancap world is autistic Jews excel at business and banking shit which would be everywhere in a Ancap world",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492157059 121041479,121052567,2017-04-14 08:05:02,">>121052303 Define consumerism, maybe I got it wrong",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492157102 121041479,121052673,2017-04-14 08:06:30,">>121041479 Thanks for uploading my new track!",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1492157190 121041479,121052986,2017-04-14 08:10:11,">>121052567 I geuss you are talking about the political aspect. Im talking about the social/economic aspect, the idea that more consumption of products is better",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492157411 121041479,121053082,2017-04-14 08:11:10,">>121052505 Why are you even talking about communism? I'm talking about putting a gun to your head and demanding your money. Oh, wait... In other news, private business cannot create armies and order them to go around forcing people to purchase their services. Governments, however, can take a portion of your income under threat of incarceration and everyone is fine with it. The Jews require this double-standard people have towards governments. That is, the idea people have that governments can take people's wealth but individuals cant. If a Jew tries his tricks in Ancapistan, he would be holocausted immediately and on demand.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492157470 121041479,121053614,2017-04-14 08:17:37,">>121052673 Loved it",,Anonymous,1399501977317.jpg,8eabx5Ih51ctixgDHNM25g==,GB,,1492157857 121041479,121053759,2017-04-14 08:19:20,">>121052673 No problem! A great New addition!",,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,US,,1492157960 121041479,121053850,2017-04-14 08:20:38,">>121053082 You putting a gun to my head means your stronger and can take my cash. But for you to effectively do that you have to beat our Police Now I don't know about shit hole Brazilian police but Australian police are well trained and funded and would easily catch a small time thief stealing phones and cash. The police are stronger so the Police rule. Since you are weak and get caught you cannot steal phones or cash. Same principal China strong. Tibet weak Russia Strong. Ukraine weak Israel strong. Palestine weak You weak. Police strong >If a Jew tries his tricks in Ancapistan, he would be holocausted immediately and on demand. >Jews are bad at business and banking and only succeed because no one has caught them doing illegal doing Try the fuck again. Jews nowadays use perfectly legal tactics to get rich and would get even richer and more powerful in a Ancap society. Your society does not end Jewish influence it in fact increases it",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492158038 121041479,121053981,2017-04-14 08:22:04,"Non-libertarian here, how would ancap function? Is it basically replacing the state with corporations and businesses with no regulations? Making everything private?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1492158124 121041479,121054107,2017-04-14 08:23:37,">>121052986 I don't think that consuming more products is inherently a positive thing, But from a consumer perspective a wider range of products cheaper on average and the ability to determine myself how many of them I need seems like a good idea, what's wrong with that?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492158217 121041479,121054159,2017-04-14 08:24:13,">>121053850 >perfectly legal The same way it is ""legal"" for the government to confiscate the fruits of your labor. You are so full of shit you actually believe that some bureaucrat's words on a paper actually define what is right or wrong.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492158253 121041479,121054178,2017-04-14 08:24:30,">>121053981 Yes it is a private law society.",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,US,,1492158270 121041479,121054234,2017-04-14 08:25:19,">>121053981 Imagine millions of tiny monarchies. Inside your land, you're king. Private property principles are sacred.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492158319 121041479,121054363,2017-04-14 08:26:39,">>121054159 >Jew uses media/famous people and extremely rich banks to push products >WOW ILLEGAL DELETE THIS You heard me Jews would thrive in a purely no morals capitalistic society",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492158399 121041479,121054482,2017-04-14 08:28:11,">>121054363 >capitalism means no morals >says the guy who believes the strongest have a right to do anything they want Why are you even complaining about Jews? You've already admitted they're right to Jew everything because they're the strongest.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492158491 121041479,121054828,2017-04-14 08:32:05,">>121054482 Kek how what mental gymnastics will Australia employ get himself out of this one?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492158725 121041479,121055104,2017-04-14 08:35:22,">>121054482 Putting words in my mouth you dumb fuck. Just because I said that's how the earth works doesn't mean I like it that way, I'm not saying I like the idea of the strongest doing what they want I'm saying it's a fact however. If the United states wanted to conquer Brazil they could. NO EXCEPTIONS, you only have natural rights as long as you are powerful enough to defend them. Am I wrong here or something If I had a army and I shot you in head you are dead and have no rights. What else is there to say the strong dictate how many rights you have.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492158922 121041479,121055181,2017-04-14 08:36:16,">not being a minarchist It's like you don't want a practical libertarian society.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492158976 121041479,121055284,2017-04-14 08:37:21,"Who's /violent revolution/ here? Seriously, I'm fucking sick of democracy. We need a violent capitalist revolution. Where's our bolsheviks? The only thing we have remotely close is the tea party movement/alex jones cucks. They DO own the majority of guns in america. But I don't know if they're knowledgeable enough. We need to radicalize them. We need to fight dirty. We need this or a free market dictators like Pinochet.",,Anonymous,1491830367073.jpg,stZzSXEI3ybckQGTtt4c7w==,CA,,1492159041 121041479,121055404,2017-04-14 08:38:34,">>121055104 If that's how the Earth works, why don't you like it? It's like an autistic child throwing a fit because he's upset he has to get up from the computer to eat, shit and piss. Get a bottle, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492159114 121041479,121055433,2017-04-14 08:38:45,">>121052673 >Thanks for uploading my new track! Is it even yours. Didn't you just overlay hoppe's speeches with some vaporwave 80s music? is this music even yours?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492159125 121041479,121055442,2017-04-14 08:38:50,">>121054482 See the leaf gets it >>121055284 If you have the most guns and people you can choose how the country runs. Doesn't mean I like it that way but that's life for you",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492159130 121041479,121055554,2017-04-14 08:40:04,">>121055181 >has a monopoly on security >somehow won't use this monopoly to acquire all other monopolies >stealing your money to ""provide"" healthcare and education is socialism >stealing your money to ""provide"" security is not socialism minarquists need a good dicking",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492159204 121041479,121055575,2017-04-14 08:40:15,">>121055404 Can you even refute that with any points at all instead of throwing a poor bunch of insults out. prove me wrong Right here >>121055104",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492159215 121041479,121055778,2017-04-14 08:42:30,">>121055442 >If you have the most guns and people you can choose how the country runs. Doesn't mean I like it that way but that's life for you How do we convince these right leaning people who own all of the guns to become libertarians. It shouldn't be that hard, they're already right leaning.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492159350 121041479,121055861,2017-04-14 08:43:19,">>121055554 WE ANCAP NOW ?",,Anonymous,Monkey-computer-money.jpg,4JX66+Z2GhDfEPcLTzgW9A==,BR,,1492159399 121041479,121055938,2017-04-14 08:44:15,">>121055554 leave us alone reeeeeee at least we're better at removing shitty immigrants and securing the borders than you enjoy being invaded by states, having people own private nukes and missiles, and having people eat dogs and cats",,Anonymous,c4749768c5842fbf928c61ea0340c776.jpg,cNULXylYYthjVFKwsZ3zjQ==,CA,,1492159455 121041479,121056014,2017-04-14 08:45:11,">>121055575 >refute Refute what? That niggers have a right to bamboozle your country if they muh dick the police enough? What is there to ""refute""? You're the one who has yet to prove natural law is flawed. Your entire point is ""well sometimes people trample over natural law, so this means it doesn't exist"". Your conclusions must follow logically from your premises. But I really shouldn't expect much from someone who believes that the strongest should get to do whatever they want. You were probably hit as a child. Your parents taught you that stronger people get to hit you, so now as an adult you see the government, that is stronger than you, and you believe the government should have the authorization to cuck you for your entire life.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492159511 121041479,121056388,2017-04-14 08:49:50,">>121056014 >You're the one who has yet to prove natural law is flawed. Natural law is a spook and I'm not even a stirnerite. Honestly we need to argue against statism using practical methods. http://www.strawpoll.me/12729817/r /pol/ already agreed with this fuck off with the moralfag shit",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492159790 121041479,121056498,2017-04-14 08:51:02,">>121056014 I literary never said I like the idea of the strongest doing whatever they want twice and you keep throwing retarded ad hominems out. Please read and use your brain, I'm having a discussion here and you keep being a insufferable baby throwing out insults. You dense idiot Please refute these points or agree with them. without resulting to ad hominems or avoiding the question. If i am your neighbor country and I invade you and win a war and I put your entire country into a concentration camp, you do not have natural rights as I have taken them Therefore you only have rights as long as you can protect them? YES OR NO",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492159862 121041479,121056534,2017-04-14 08:51:31,">>121055861 banana samba futebol carnaval >>121055938 >borders Please, tell me how exactly would a shitty immigrant move to Ancapistan? Considering that in Ancapistan every piece of land would be someone's property, the entry of immigrants would be subject to the discrimination of the land owners. They would first need to prove their worthiness before being allowed passage. Governments open and close their borders without their citizen's consent. Not surprising. Instant voters and taxpayers. Governments have every incentive to open their borders to subversive elements.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492159891 121041479,121056781,2017-04-14 08:54:22,">>121041479 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKic4tAjMgM Mark Passio and his discussions and presentations on Natural Law, the Trivium, and Quadrivium are the most important thing to this movement. OP Please link them in your thread starter info. Having a method to discover objective truth in the world is extremely important in a society that seeks to rid itself of external authority, it needs to develop internal understanding of the polarities of love and fear and what morality is first.",,Anonymous,natural law.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,US,,1492160062 121041479,121056803,2017-04-14 08:54:46,">>121056534 also no roads !!! We will be kangs and shieeet!",,Anonymous,CHI_03_RK0134_01_P.jpg,VDIXzzmugyO94zQasl12qw==,BR,,1492160086 121041479,121056851,2017-04-14 08:55:16,">>121055938 That pic made me kek",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1492160116 121041479,121056859,2017-04-14 08:55:23,">>121056498 >I literary never said I like the idea of the strongest doing whatever they want Well well well >>121051818 >if you defeat our army and make us unconditionally surrender you can do what ever you want If the entire world behaved like Africa, Australia wouldn't exist. The fact that we're both sitting on a computer typing about this is proof that the rule is cooperation between individuals, and violent conflict is the exception. The massive chain of production and division of labor required to make home computers a reality is proof of this. Markets wouldn't exist if the default human condition was war of all against all.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492160123 121041479,121057231,2017-04-14 08:59:27,">>121056859 >if you defeat our army and make us unconditionally surrender you can do what ever you want Correct I never said I approve of that behavior, stop putting words in my mouth and answer my question. If i am your neighbor country and I invade you and win a war and I put your entire country into a concentration camp, you do not have natural rights as I have taken them Therefore you only have rights as long as you can protect them? YES OR NO",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492160367 121041479,121057423,2017-04-14 09:01:33,">>121057231 >you're only alive as long as you don't die WOW philosophy 2017 very deep What kind of question is that? Murder happens so nobody really can complain when someone tries to kill them? Can you even tell us why theft is considered a bad thing even in the most backwards African shithole?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492160493 121041479,121057687,2017-04-14 09:04:33,">>121057423 Answer the question, stop avoiding it or admit you have no answer",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492160673 121041479,121057805,2017-04-14 09:06:01,">>121057687 I am deeply sorry I didn't answer your shitty non-question.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492160761 121041479,121057830,2017-04-14 09:06:17,">>121055284 HELICOPTER RIDES E L I C H U C K",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492160777 121041479,121058017,2017-04-14 09:08:13,">>121057805 So you refuse to answer my question? I will provide it again for your convenience. If you do not answer I and others who are lurking in the thread will assume you have no answer Are you going to defend your political ideology or not? A simple yes or no will suffice If i am your neighbor country and I invade you and win a war and I put your entire country into a concentration camp, you do not have natural rights as I have taken them Therefore you only have rights as long as you can protect them? Yes or No",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492160893 121041479,121058225,2017-04-14 09:10:17,">>121058017 You're only alive as long as you don't die? Yes or No",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492161017 121041479,121058251,2017-04-14 09:10:38,">>121045088 That's my quote!",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492161038 121041479,121058418,2017-04-14 09:12:21,Is /lrg/ against this?,,Anonymous,h1b.png,Wz6nxea7eophn2C0Cz3Hrg==,US,,1492161141 121041479,121058542,2017-04-14 09:13:42,">>121058225 I'll answer that right after you answer mine Do you have a answer to my question. This is for everyone browsing the thread here and those people just lurking. Stop dancing around it and answer yes or no it's an easy question",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492161222 121041479,121058596,2017-04-14 09:14:08,">>121047693 Because it's not a monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492161248 121041479,121058745,2017-04-14 09:15:47,">>121058542 >answer me answer me answer me answer me answer me answer me Grow up. I've already given you an answer, but apparently you're too dumb to interpret it. I was trying to show how absurd your shitty question is. It doesn't warrant an actual answer.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492161347 121041479,121058758,2017-04-14 09:15:57,">>121058596 A big powerful company capable of maintaining expensive forts hundreds of thousands of soldiers,tanks,aircraft,ships logistics including, food,transport,admin,recruitment No extortion/corruption or abuse of power Choose one (1)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492161357 121041479,121058855,2017-04-14 09:17:00,">>121058745 So you have no answer then? You are unable to refute my question then?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492161420 121041479,121058894,2017-04-14 09:17:25,">>121051715 >9/10 libertarianism will be used as license, to think otherwise is wishfull thinking. Libertarianism is an ideology based on non coercion and thus can not be used to justify the initiation of force. A quick look at the history will show that.",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1492161445 121041479,121058998,2017-04-14 09:18:33,">>121051866 Oh that's not a monopoly on the use of force AT ALL, goy. You've just described a state.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492161513 121041479,121059031,2017-04-14 09:18:58,">>121058855 Holy shit you really are a petulant child. Did your school friends forced you to answer whether or not your parents knew you were gay?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492161538 121041479,121059032,2017-04-14 09:18:58,">>121058418 I'm against this, but I'm also against all of the labor regulations that didn't allow companies to hire American in the first place. It's hard to hire American if you have to pay them over a 100%+ when compared to getting some spic who can do it for only 20% of the value",,Anonymous,1492032141972-pol.png,mn24Z/c/8pNepZeU56G3lg==,US,,1492161538 121041479,121059188,2017-04-14 09:20:32,">>121055284 I agree. We live in a society that does not respect non aggression. Therefore to not aggress puts us at a strategic disadvantage. We should kill Communists regardless of whether they are people or not.",,Anonymous,hsm__101_.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1492161632 121041479,121059189,2017-04-14 09:20:34,">>121059031 Okay thank you for no answer then. Brazilian intellectuals at work can't answer a simple ideological question. Proving once again it's a stupid way of running things",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492161634 121041479,121059310,2017-04-14 09:21:54,">>121059032 This. ""Free trade"" deals like NAFTA are useless (and even counter-productive) if you don't cut regulations at home.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492161714 121041479,121059321,2017-04-14 09:22:00,">>121058758 If there's no other alternative to that single company, it's a monopoly, and good luck maintaining that in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492161720 121041479,121059359,2017-04-14 09:22:28,">>121059189 >ask stupid question >get no answer >look at me such intelect xD Statists, everyone.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492161748 121041479,121059556,2017-04-14 09:24:28,">>121058017 Yes, I will defend my ideology, yes, I will genocide anyone who supported you in your invasion efforts and take all your shit and yes, if I die, I am very much okay with it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492161868 121041479,121059661,2017-04-14 09:25:42,">>121059359 Well if it's such a stupid question then you should be able to answer it then. You have no answer and all your """"""""""answers"""""""""" have been asking a question back or calling it a dumb question. It's the equivalent of me asking you what's 1+1 then you going whats 3 times 7 or calling my question dumb. And yet you still haven't answered and that brings another question do you even know what 1 +1 is or the equivalent of it",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492161942 121041479,121059713,2017-04-14 09:26:13,">>121059321 He's the kind of statist who demands from AnCaps how are we gonna do things in Ancapistan the same way we do things today with a state. He actually thinks thousands of bases, tanks, aircraft and troops are necessary for defense. He's so deep in statism that he has forgot these are tools of attack. Ancapistan would be non-interventionist by definition.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492161973 121041479,121059803,2017-04-14 09:27:13,">>121059661 >Well if it's such a stupid question then you should be able to answer it then. Holy shit.",,Anonymous,photo_2017-02-12_21-28-38.jpg,Ois7U9V5sGVIfS14hJ+/Iw==,BR,,1492162033 121041479,121059895,2017-04-14 09:28:23,">>121059556 Thank you for actually answering. The real question is however >If i am your neighbor country and I invade you and win a war and I put your entire country into a concentration camp, you do not have natural rights as I have taken them away >Therefore you only have rights as long as you can protect them? Yes or No",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492162103 121041479,121059951,2017-04-14 09:29:09,">>121041479 The only libertarian show that matters! Jason Stapleton Program. Watch live daily on Facebook, YouTube or listen on podcast Believe me, try it and you are hooked on the insane amount of sense this man makes Good day and happy Easter! God bless!",,Anonymous,jsp.jpg,B+R6Z5Gy6ysKSEylpj98ug==,NL,,1492162149 121041479,121059997,2017-04-14 09:29:39,">>121059713 If they can't think outside the box, they will have to think inside it. If they crave being rules so badly, I say we give them a taste of their own medicine - after all, it's for the (((greater good))), amirite? :^) As far as defence goes, good luck maintaining supply lines without roads, kiddo. Also, I bet all of our recreational missiles will feel great when they hit the enemy forces. Their strawmen and pathetic ""refutations"" can be used more easily against them than against us, kek.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492162179 121041479,121060008,2017-04-14 09:29:50,"Just want to drop by to say I've been working on my ""SJWs from an austrian perspective"" essay in which I try to explain the causes of SJWs intrinsically parasitic behavior. I have a couple of sections with summaries. 1. Voluntary exchanges >Voluntary exchanges must increase the individuals sense of subjective wealth. This is the basic of mutually beneficial exchanges. 2. The value of consumer goods >The producer seek to make goods which he will be able to exchange in a system of free exchanges. The producer cannot produce goods for which the demand does not justify the cost of production. 3. The value of factor of production >Factors of productions derive their value from consumer demand. 4. Research as a factor of production >Research can be valuable to the producer in so far as it can ameliorate the process of production or create new product. 5. The case of the social sciences and the humanities 5.1 What do the social sciences and the humanities produce? >Social sciences and the humanities produce analysis in which they apply a theoretical framework to some entity so as to derive appropriate conclusions. They generate information. 5.2 What is the fitness of these goods as consumer goods? >There is little to no market for these analysis, save in the realm of journalist and book publishing, which is not big enough to absorb the supply of social scientists and humanities students. 5.3 What is the fitness of these goods as factor of production? >Unlike research in other areas, there is little to no prospect that the information generated in the SS and the humanities will yield either a new product of more efficient production methods. 5.4 General lack of fitness in a system of voluntary exchanges: rebellion against the market and the rise of parasitic behavior. >As a result, students of the SS and the humanities are not fit to economically survive with their skill in a system of voluntary exchange. Government is the answer.",,Anonymous,major - summary table 10k hour photoshop.png,REGoJerOsNr2qZWKEodlkw==,CA,,1492162190 121041479,121060034,2017-04-14 09:30:20,"Could Hoppe legitimately be described as ""libertarian fascist""?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492162220 121041479,121060087,2017-04-14 09:30:49,">>121059895 Who cares? Anyone has rights as long as they're alive. Doesn't mean a stronger force can't forfeit them. That's why all men under the black and yellow flag should be willing to die for their freedom.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492162249 121041479,121060088,2017-04-14 09:30:49,">>121057231 >>121057687 >>121058017 >>121059895 https://www.youtube.com/7Ophbx1iaF8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492162249 121041479,121060192,2017-04-14 09:31:52,">>121060034 Eh, kind of. Our system preaches absolute freedom among those who appreciate it, and absolute strongman rule over those who don't.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492162312 121041479,121060209,2017-04-14 09:32:03,">>121059713 >>121059997 I see your point of how Ancap would be wanting to stay out of conflict obviously but if you had to fight against another country with a full war economy and a fully mobilized country you would most likely lose then or lose ground atleast if they only wanted to take a state or two away",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492162323 121041479,121060302,2017-04-14 09:33:11,">>121060008 Fantastic, I look forward to reading it. If you like I can put it on the website, looking to update it soon and I was thinking of having a guest blogs/essay section.",,Anonymous,1491850050790.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,GB,,1492162391 121041479,121060419,2017-04-14 09:34:24,">>121060088 404 not found Do you have another link somewhere? >>121060087 My point is if i put you into a prison you no longer have rights and are subject to the prison owners rules so the only way to keep your rights is to shoot the statist or the prison owner then?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492162464 121041479,121060461,2017-04-14 09:34:44,">>121060209 I see your point of how you would want to live your life peacefully and chillin' but if you had to fight against a drugged-up hood nigger and his problem solver .38 you would most likely lose your anal virginity.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492162484 121041479,121060547,2017-04-14 09:35:42,">>121060209 >state or two nigger On a serious note, at least we know what to bomb when faced with a structured foe. We run on free market, so our efficiency is inherently higher, because men aren't ants. Besides, we can always just invade you back and disregard the NAP because it's been forfeited, AND we're not bound by international treaties, so enjoy generations of mutations after we use biological weapons.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492162542 121041479,121060658,2017-04-14 09:36:57,">>121060461 Unless I had my own gun or i was willing to get shot then yes. What's your point if 20 niggers surrounded you and had a gun to your head they could rape you as well",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492162617 121041479,121060666,2017-04-14 09:37:05,">>121060419 I can't seem to find another one. Sorry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492162625 121041479,121060723,2017-04-14 09:37:38,">>121060419 If you put me into prison, the private defense company I am in contract with will level that shit to the ground because they want good PR. And yes, killing whoever has non-voluntary power over you is perfectly moral.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492162658 121041479,121060824,2017-04-14 09:38:34,">>121060658 Exactly. When you're overpowered, it's not because of the structure, what matters is that you finna get yo ass fucked, lil nigga.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492162714 121041479,121060852,2017-04-14 09:38:55,">>121060302 The problem is the reading necessary to substantiate the claim. For instance, you have to read some OECD report in order know that most (all?) funding for the social sciences and the humanities actually come from the government, whereas there is a substantial portion of research and development funding that is privately generated. You also have to get stats concerning the employment prospect of the people in the social sciences and the humanities. Furthermore, you also have to analyze and characterize what it is that these people do. It is not enough to say that they apply a theoretical framework to some element of reality without going any further. Indeed, this is what they do, but it must be substantiated. In the end, we simply prove that: (1) They are unfit for the market (2) They must thus engage in ""activism"" to direct funds toward themselves through the use of government force. (If you cannot get fund voluntarily you must get it by force.) (3) The nature of their activity is such that they always have to analyze structures and entities whose existence precedes them. They themselves do not set up the entities they analyze. They have to attack something else someone has build. They didn't build the pop culture, the government or the STEM department they consider ""problematic"".",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492162735 121041479,121060964,2017-04-14 09:39:59,">>121041976 >Strategy and Tactics >The Helicopter Pilot's Handbook Houston, my sides are in orbit",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492162799 121041479,121061032,2017-04-14 09:40:53,">>121041479 Bump for a nonshill thread",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1492162853 121041479,121061120,2017-04-14 09:41:44,">>121060666 do you have the youtube channel name or something. I hope it was actually a video about my question and not some shitty rickroll or something. >>121060723 But you don't have any natural rights though if you moved to communist China committed a crime they could put you in prison and because you weren't as strong or you were unable to escape you have lost your rights because you are in prison subject to Chinese shit. So the only way to secure your Ancap rights is to defend them from aggressors as they do not naturally occur?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492162904 121041479,121061233,2017-04-14 09:43:09,">>121060852 I agree. On (2), ""Outrage"" is the machine they use to enter and distort the market and spread their ideas. Here is a good example: https://twitter.com/K_Niemietz/status/849671604690984962",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492162989 121041479,121061331,2017-04-14 09:44:12,">>121060658 Anarchists are not pacifists. Actually, because we see every state as a criminal organization, we have no qualms about being hostile towards them. A country looking to annex Ancapistan thinking it would be an easy grab would encounter a community of people literally ready to shoot back. Only the most crazed, ideology-blinded politicians would be willing to burn their political capital on such conflict. Most governments are comfortable with their current stock of passive tax cows. It is only reasonable to expect Ancapistan to be attacked by a fanatical lunatic or a country facing a crisis. Or rather, why has nobody annexed Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Liberland, etc.? They're small and the strength of their governments is pathetic. By your logic, their bigger, more powerful neighbors should have gobbled them up already.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492163052 121041479,121061439,2017-04-14 09:45:30,">>121061120 It was a video of an interview on Fox with Tucker Carlson and some other reporter, and they got into an argument of answering a question. Nothing of value really. Just reminded me of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492163130 121041479,121061758,2017-04-14 09:48:51,">>121061233 I fully agree that the SJWs, unable to produce attractive product for any market, must use psychological techniques in order to impel people to do as they wish. My argument is simply that this behavior flows inexorably from their objective position within the market. Since they cannot do anything else, this is what they must do. The analysis of the processes through which they direct funds toward themselves, either by creating job spots for themselves or getting more subsidies or inserting themselves in some company that must be responsive to public pressure, could be the subject of a different essay. Then again, the essay is in flux. It could be included. But it would require a non trivial amount of research.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492163331 121041479,121061770,2017-04-14 09:49:00,">>121061120 Well they occur in nature until somebody decides that they want to take them away from someone. That's why their defence is crucial.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492163340 121041479,121061894,2017-04-14 09:50:25,">>121061758 The essay can be in much part theoretical as it is empirical(?). Gl anon.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492163425 121041479,121062187,2017-04-14 09:53:22,"hey, we have a discord if anyone wants to join. we have ancap memes https://discord.gg/WmMVFxC",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1492163602 121041479,121062325,2017-04-14 09:54:47,">>121049082 That system is really cancerous.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1492163687 121041479,121062331,2017-04-14 09:54:48,">>121062187 >everyone joins discord >fred dies",,Anonymous,1491859248745.jpg,C3yffL6nH+UJSX8Ly9JZzw==,GB,,1492163688 121041479,121062410,2017-04-14 09:55:37,">>121061894 Well right now I want to characterize, using solid sources, what research actually is. In my outline, I called it a ""factor of production"" but, from an Austrian perspective, I'm just about certain that that's not the case. Rather, it's probably an investment, which is another category entirely, and thus the derivation of its value will differ from that of production. Thus the section concerning factors of production and their valuation will probably be eliminated. Then, I need some empirical data concerning these area of research which are profitable and end up being financed by private funds, by capitalist expecting a return on investment as a result of their satisfying consumer demand. So you got to go through shit like this: http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/docserver/download/9215031e.pdf?expires=1492111108&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=A011399E5DD98BB0F1120BAA860DCB90",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492163737 121041479,121062431,2017-04-14 09:55:50,"LINK TO THE DISCORD GET IN HERE GUYS discord.gg/WmMVFxC chatting about political revolution now",,Anonymous,1491674902426.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,CA,,1492163750 121041479,121063093,2017-04-14 10:02:10,">>121060302 A fantastic idea, I'd love to make some contributions.",,Anonymous,AncapBall.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1492164130 121041479,121063245,2017-04-14 10:03:43,">>121062431 >chatting about political revolution now Convince you guys are not the equivalent of SJWs in their safespaces? Discuss ideas in the thread where you can engage in real debate.",,Anonymous,1491758175889.png,X6uEf4hDYbaeMJrM4Xniew==,GB,,1492164223 121041479,121063305,2017-04-14 10:04:18,REEEEE join the discord,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492164258 121041479,121063394,2017-04-14 10:05:14,Why are Righties such literal punching bags lmao,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170411-194312.png,zMas9I/OSB9P3cpYxu+19Q==,US,,1492164314 121041479,121063486,2017-04-14 10:06:10,">>121063093 A lot of ideas are explored in these threads and I'm sure many would like a place to keep them permanently.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492164370 121041479,121063541,2017-04-14 10:06:40,">>121062325 Yeah I know right?",,Anonymous,when_the_private_police_asks_you_where_you_were_the_night_the_town_communist_was_found_dead_floating_on_the_ocean.jpg,3aAie9mBpk9j94NUQkRqEg==,US,,1492164400 121041479,121063563,2017-04-14 10:06:51,">>121063394 Because lefties cannot actually be of use to anyone, as a result of which they cannot command a salary on the market, and they thus have to resort to intimidation and violence in order to survive.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492164411 121041479,121063860,2017-04-14 10:09:36,">>121063394 Did you even see the video? Kyle put that faggot to sleep with one punch, didn't even need to run at full speed with a wrench in his sleeve like that Inauguration faggot (who couldn't know The Unstoppable Dick to the ground).",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492164576 121041479,121063914,2017-04-14 10:10:06,">>121063394 antifa here die by being punched by skinheads search ""Clément Méric"",Antifa is worse than niggers in terms of fight,always need to outnumber",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492164606 121041479,121064003,2017-04-14 10:11:00,">>121060008 Holy crap, you're actually going to do it. Way to go man, look forward reading it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492164660 121041479,121064009,2017-04-14 10:11:04,"JP ""send them [kids who want to go to university] to trade school (as universities are so Marxist)"". (1:17) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04wyGK6k6HE How do we purge the lefties from our education system? Anyone have any good (bad) greentexts?",,Anonymous,1491774328231.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,GB,,1492164664 121041479,121064083,2017-04-14 10:11:51,>tfw when you're half chinks and nobody blames you for communist because you are militaristic far-right,,Anonymous,safe_image.php.jpg,Ye+UAWliK67+QsOdJaM++A==,ID,,1492164711 121041479,121064787,2017-04-14 10:18:21,">>121064003 The propaganda potential of an accurate economic characterization of these people is, I believe, actually enormous. Right now, people tend to see them as, well SJWs, that is to say beings primarily motivated by values and and desire to change society. They see them as philosophico-political beings. This is correct to an extent but it misses the mark and, more importantly, it prevent one from seeing what their pattern of action actually is and why. It would greatly discredits the SJWs to have the material root of their behavior be exposed. It would allow people to dismiss their moral claims and recognize them for the instrumental, dishonest use of language that they are. And the consequence of this is our most precious objective: defund, defund ,defund.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492165101 121041479,121065278,2017-04-14 10:22:37,">>121063305 Link?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492165357 121041479,121065451,2017-04-14 10:24:11,">>121063486 I guess I better start writing an essay on the my libertarian culture war. It is the purpose of these threads as far as I'm concerned. It's why I've made images like >>121048450 and why I created /lrg/ libertarianism is a reactionary movement, it makes me sick to see how it has been perverted into an inclusive, egalitarian ideology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492165451 121041479,121065462,2017-04-14 10:24:18,">>121065278 discord.gg/WmMVFxC",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492165458 121041479,121065470,2017-04-14 10:24:25,Objectivism.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492165465 121041479,121065888,2017-04-14 10:28:28,">>121064009 I'll go >economics student >lecturer is feminist >lecturer starts talking about Western patriarchy etc >based female African student basically BTFOs her >tells her she has never experienced it in the UK, and even if it does exist, compared to Africa it is nothing >lecturer hustled >sweat.gif >pulls up some OECD graph on equality, muttering about how Africa is equal >of course all the top nations are Western >scrolls down a bit >spots Rwanda >starts lecturing about how equal Rwanda is, how their parliament is 70/30 Women/Men >supposed bastion of African equality >I've had enough of this shit by now >""Mrs"" >""Yes"" >explain to her how she seems to have forgotten that Rwanda had a genocide back in '94 in which some hideous % of men died (can't remember figure right now) >she stutters >no retort >w-well I don't know the specifics Shut that dumb bitch up. Unfortunately it's impossible to regard yourself as anything other than a Marxist or closet-Marxist as those same lecturers mark your debates, projects, essays, and exams.",,Anonymous,1491847201893.png,Pf1BbhBkujFFxRuqC0CxiA==,GB,,1492165708 121041479,121066766,2017-04-14 10:36:45,">>121065888 debated about blacks situation in the US and gun right's in my College since May 68 marxists,post-modernist relativists and pedos (not tinfoiling there are legit pedohiles behind this shit) infested our education system and every time I questionned my teachers and/or others students during debate they all either didn't known the subject or just went ad-hominen calling me a crazy racist These places should burn",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492166205 121041479,121067325,2017-04-14 10:42:13,">>121066766 It's pretty sickening. Based off discussion, podcasts I listen to etc, it seems the situation in Canada and the USA is A LOT worse. Interested if others have stories.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492166533 121041479,121068017,2017-04-14 10:48:33,">>121067325 maybe in the US it's worse,but the source of all this shit is May 68,it's a mix of every egalitarian SJW bullshit and it's from the sixties under de Gaulle ! This event should be heavily analyzed about how everything went wrong after that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492166913 121041479,121068283,2017-04-14 10:50:52,">>121068017 Any literature we should read on this specifically?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492167052 121041479,121068815,2017-04-14 10:55:27,">>121067325 Here in Portugal we had a big fuss a couple of months ago because one of our top universities, Nova, had a lecture by a man named Jaime Nogueira Pinto (a famous writer and political scientist who usually writes about Salazar and Estado Novo) about Trump, Le Pen and Brexit. The special snowflakes of the Student's Assembly, a hotspot for Marxist and left-wing bullshit, cancelled the event because it promoted xenophobia, racism and neo-colonialism. The media picked up on it and it caused a national outrage against the university, everyone called them out on their bullshit (even our President), saying it was hostile to free speech and against the ""values of April"" (supposedly the valuing of democracy and freedom after Estado Novo). Ironically, the 25 de Abril Foundation decided to host the lecture instead kek, forever cucking the triggered snowflakes at Nova. Pic related: demonstration by our wannabe National Front (PNR - National Renovator Party) in front of the university. The great battle of memes.",,Anonymous,17390798_1482634995102610_6261527321372193300_o.jpg,sZGJJ4gev5A1qEwcD5NO5Q==,PT,,1492167327 121041479,121068950,2017-04-14 10:56:29,">>121068283 this is the problem there isn't there are some french reactionaries who mentioned May 68 about how bad this shit was but there aren't a concrete critic of it except the generation identity book (and it's more an identitarian manifesto than anything) all I can do right now is greentexting",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492167389 121041479,121069122,2017-04-14 10:58:01,">>121068950 there isn't* my bad",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492167481 121041479,121069567,2017-04-14 11:02:05,,,Anonymous,17757439_1429715430382306_3850809718258151495_n.jpg,x4b5jVDEKNQkzNC9xVf5Uw==,US,,1492167725 121041479,121069701,2017-04-14 11:03:13,">>121061758 Sounds neat tbqh",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492167793 121041479,121070160,2017-04-14 11:07:09,">>121068815 >cucking the triggered snowflakes pls go back to le_donald",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492168029 121041479,121070293,2017-04-14 11:08:14,">>121041479 Liber-KEK-ians.",,Anonymous,libertarianism.png,XVCEBF2yaxcQBy+upkcKTA==,US,,1492168094 121041479,121070404,2017-04-14 11:09:06,">>121069567 >Muh inequality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492168146 121041479,121070481,2017-04-14 11:09:46,">>121070160 >>121070293 shills have arrived, boys!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492168186 121041479,121070495,2017-04-14 11:09:52,">>121069567 Is that the conquereds version of history. European civilization spread to the American continent. Everyone benefited. The end.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492168192 121041479,121070735,2017-04-14 11:11:55,">>121070293 >libertarians never fought for racists wrong Rothbard supported David Duke program won't read all wall of text starting with a lie",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492168315 121041479,121070770,2017-04-14 11:12:17,">>121070495 >>EVERYONE Define ""everyone"", retard then prove how ""everyone"" benefited, retard. Protip: you can't because they didn't and because you are a retarded 15 year old.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492168337 121041479,121072217,2017-04-14 11:24:23,">>121068815 Excellent, what butthurt. I never heard about this. >>121068950 Shame, I'll still read articles/wiki etc on it, looks highly relevant at a glance to what we are dealing with today.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492169063 121041479,121072427,2017-04-14 11:26:20,">>121070293 As French-anon noted, the entire text starts with a fundamental lie, rendering the remainder useless. This is RIGHT Libertarianism, not leftie shite. Begone shill!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492169180 121041479,121073461,2017-04-14 11:35:24,Post ancap cities,,Anonymous,b53273e512f392f517024254b825efbd.png,Zbs69yR4uXuOecUjgNQnVA==,SE,,1492169724 121041479,121073658,2017-04-14 11:37:02,">>121070735 Well, I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492169822 121041479,121073844,2017-04-14 11:38:35,"EVERYONE JOIN THE DISCORD WE'RE STARTING A POLITICAL REVOLUTION discord.gg/YsQnWHV MAYBE",,Anonymous,1491991840920.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,CA,,1492169915 121041479,121073845,2017-04-14 11:38:37,">>121070735 >>121072427 Your posts make me proud. Let it be known that the days of lolbergtardians are numbered. Now are the days of Rothbardian right wing populism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492169917 121041479,121074103,2017-04-14 11:40:46,">>121072217 this event is doublethink-tier just look at these cunts slogans >It is forbidden to forbid >Enjoy without hindrance >Be realistic, ask the impossible. >I love you!!! Oh, say it with paving stones",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492170046 121041479,121074208,2017-04-14 11:41:42,">>121041479 Hoppeans unite",,Anonymous,images.jpg,SiXl0PUA2ir2hb4wJdvT2g==,US,,1492170102 121041479,121074515,2017-04-14 11:44:14,>>121074208,,Anonymous,1491690706678.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,GB,,1492170254 121041479,121075893,2017-04-14 11:55:05,Bump.,,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1492170905 121041479,121076388,2017-04-14 11:59:19,">>121069567 >facebook",,Anonymous,protest-4.jpg,rh6/ZhIbBOkVmIRwlvjj4w==,GB,,1492171159 121041479,121077539,2017-04-14 12:09:37,">>121069567 >revenge against whites >fuck america I want an inter ethnic war so I'm fine with this narrative.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492171777 121041479,121078328,2017-04-14 12:16:14,">>121041479 Libertarians caused this problem, pic related The American ""Melting Pot"" is a cautionary tale.",,Anonymous,1492185900722.png,pMp94BGeLEl8CmxFB57Ohg==,US,,1492172174 121041479,121078572,2017-04-14 12:18:07,">>121078328 >""Libertarians""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492172287 121041479,121078680,2017-04-14 12:19:09,Democracy a shit.,,Anonymous,anime snek.gif,w0Yf7hyzKzZ8lo48jri5cw==,US,,1492172349 121041479,121078729,2017-04-14 12:19:35,">>121078328 how is race stats related with libertarianism ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492172375 121041479,121078805,2017-04-14 12:20:18,">>121078729 Libertarian policies are culture and race blind.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492172418 121041479,121078993,2017-04-14 12:21:47,">>121078805 This is RIGHT libertarian, not melting pot left libertarian. I want to trade with the black man, but at a distance.",,Anonymous,1491741240184.png,7pxzBOPQMBcE7IN8NsL3ZQ==,GB,,1492172507 121041479,121079191,2017-04-14 12:23:23,">>121078805 >what is right of discrimination",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492172603 121041479,121079516,2017-04-14 12:26:07,">>121079191 A neutral non-European centered policy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492172767 121041479,121080103,2017-04-14 12:31:28,">>121079516 you need to worship europe for having a political philosophy,or I get it wrong ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492173088 121041479,121080348,2017-04-14 12:33:46,">>121078328 >>121079191 He's sort of correct. There's a bunch of libertarian running around that have a distinctly ""rationalistic"" bend. That is, they reject the idea that liberty may be a historically contingent phenomena and proclaim it to have universal validity on the basis of a set of a priori axioms. All conception of natural laws are of this kind. These usually end up presenting an image of human being as being all ""fundamentally"" equal in that they possess the prerequisite features for a life of liberty, which is normatively proclaimed by the libertarian to be the right one. As a result, the dogmatic, a-historical libertarian expect that, under optimal condition, all people on earth will realize ""rationally"" that the libertarian mode of life must indeed prevail. It's fairly clear that the /pol/bertarians don't believe this whole heartedly but it's definitely a strand within libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492173226 121041479,121080566,2017-04-14 12:35:43,">>121078805 Rothbard is rolling in his grave right now at your ignorance.",,Anonymous,1487039083508.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,PT,,1492173343 121041479,121081049,2017-04-14 12:39:57,">>121080103 >right of discrimination Mohamed, Yes, it's not worship,. It's science you stupid idiot. >>121078328 The American ""melting pot"" is a cautionary tale. Interesting statistical crime analysis If USA were all Black vs If USA were all white, 10.48 vs 1.55 per capita murder rate. Also, a comparison of countries that would match those levels. What can we infer, dumb shill?",,Anonymous,Parched_Village_Huts_Niger_Africa.jpg,lvIyEro/WKyXhE5Xz972/w==,US,,1492173597 121041479,121082295,2017-04-14 12:51:06,"EVERYONE JOIN THE DISCORD WE'RE STARTING A POLITICAL REVOLUTION discord.gg/YsQnWHV MAYBE",,Anonymous,b9c.jpg,sglCwsFpYYzIXbpFtKLnSA==,CA,,1492174266 121041479,121082370,2017-04-14 12:51:48,">>121081049 >Mohamed, Yes, it's not worship,. It's science you stupid idiot. we're talking about political philosophy,it indeniable that blacks are more stupid and violent still worshiping you continent and thinking only about your people survival without that others cases and ideas are blocked only because ""muh people"" is not scientific,it's bitching",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492174308 121041479,121082400,2017-04-14 12:52:05,"I kind of want to know what reading everyone here is doing in this thread. I've recently read part of ""An Austrian perspective on the history of economic thought"" by Rothbard and ""Philosophy and Myth in Karl Marx"" by Tucker. (I've also been reading on the phenomenon of cognitive dissonance but that's not really about economics.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492174325 121041479,121082414,2017-04-14 12:52:13,">>121081049 That nogs are cancerous to a civilized society. You're not shocking anyone here with that claim. We all know it to be true. We're not civicucks like you folks like to meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492174333 121041479,121082854,2017-04-14 12:55:46,"I am completely clueless on libertarianism, gonna read on it in the future, but can someone tell me, are libertarians completely against the idea of a government or are they just for having a very small government/state ?",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1492174546 121041479,121082881,2017-04-14 12:56:01,">>121078805 >Libertarian policies What like (((open borders)))? Who do you think we are?",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1492174561 121041479,121083036,2017-04-14 12:57:26,">>121082854 Some are some aren't. Not all libertarians are AnCap, but AnCap is a form of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492174646 121041479,121083057,2017-04-14 12:57:35,">>121082854 libertarians counts minarchists and ancaps >are libertarians completely against the idea of a government this is the ancaps >they just for having a very small government/state ? and this is the minarchists",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492174655 121041479,121083096,2017-04-14 12:57:54,">>121059951 Thanks for sharing anon. Needing more podcasts to listen to",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492174674 121041479,121083235,2017-04-14 12:59:04,"What's everyone's plan for the post - 2 koreas world? How do you plan to maximize personal gain after best korea is gone? Me? I'm buying land.",,Anonymous,mount-paektu-north-korea-volcano.jpg,Kd8UnP4W/yEVQ5fUYvHlOg==,US,,1492174744 121041479,121083460,2017-04-14 13:00:56,"Bump with some quote from Mises about production processes and time preference. >As acting man prefers those processes which, other things being equal, produce the products in the shortest time, only such processes are left for further action which consume more time [once one has examined all that the shorter time production processes can accomplish]. People embark upon these more time-consuming processes because they value the increment in satisfaction expected more highly than the disadvantage of waiting longer for their fruits. Böhm-Bawerk speaks of the higher productivity of roundabout ways of production requiring more time. It is more appropriate to speak of the higher physical productivity [p. 482] of production processes requiring more time. The higher productivity of these processes does not always consist in the fact that they produce--with the same quantity of factors of production expended--a greater quantity of products. More often it consists in the fact that they produce products which could not be produced at all in shorter periods of production. >>121082854 It depends on the libertarian. Most recently, the ancapists (anarcho capitalists) seem to have dominated the debate. But a guy like Ludwig Von Mises was not in favor of the abolition of government.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492174856 121041479,121084030,2017-04-14 13:05:41,">>121083057 >>121082881 >>121083460 Oh I see, thank you for the info anons. Also, is there any particular book to your I should start with when diving into libertarianism or is any book from the recommended list alright?",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1492175141 121041479,121084327,2017-04-14 13:08:03,">>121082400 I'm reading The Road To Serfdom, I haven't studied economics since HS I wanted something short. I've watched an awful lot of lectures from Hoppe and Mises Institute recently too",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492175283 121041479,121084752,2017-04-14 13:11:35,">The postponement of an act of consumption means that the individual prefers the satisfaction which later consumption will provide to the satisfaction which immediate consumption could provide. The choice of a longer period of production means that the actor values the product of the process bearing fruit only at a later date more highly than the products which a process consuming less time could provide. In such deliberations and the resulting choices the period of production appears as waiting time. It was the great contribution of Jevons and Bohm-Bawerk to have shown the role played by taking account of waiting time. - Von Mises I post time preference quotes because of the central role given to this concept by Hoppe. In ""Democracy: The god that failed"", we read: >However, no matter what a person's original time-preference rate or what the original distribution of such rates within a given population, once it is low enough to allow for any savings and capital or durable consumer-goods formation at all, a tendency toward a fall in the rate of time preference is set in motion, accompanied by a ""process of civilization.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492175495 121041479,121085177,2017-04-14 13:15:32,">>121084030 The recommended list is alright. I'd start with Bastiat's essay ""That Which is Seen and That Which is Not Seen"", followed by Henry Hazzlit's ""Economics in One Lesson"", Rothbard's ""Anatomy of the State"" and Hoppe's ""A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline"". And then you're set to explore in any order you wish. The infographic posted in the very start of the thread is a good source.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1492175732 121041479,121085674,2017-04-14 13:19:47,">>121084030 I think a lot of us come to libertarianism or come to sympathize with them (as I do) through watching some of their lectures. I am not sure a book is the best place to start with either Austrian economics or libertarianism. It probably is better to start with small bites of Hoppe, Rothbard, Friedman and Sowell, so as to get a preview of the kind of analytical power these people weld. Now, while I can't vouch for the book I'm about to recommend, I believe that ""An ethic of liberty"" by Rothbard would be one of the more appropriate book to start with. It seems to be introductory in nature. I must concur with my Portuguese ""colleague"". ""Economic in one lesson"" is gonna be good for an introduction to the economic side (as opposed to the liberty side) of libertarianism. ""Basic Economic"" by Sowell would also be good in that regard. (There's two closely related side to libertarianism. On the one hand, the philosophico-ethical argument in favor or liberty and then, subsequently, the defense of the free market system, which is perceived as being the only system in which liberty can actually be concretized.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492175987 121041479,121086185,2017-04-14 13:24:27,">>121084327 Didn't read ""Road to Serfdom"". Give me some quotes. (You better take notes while reading.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492176267 121107361,121107361,2017-04-14 16:19:36,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL-,Anonymous,1492120179746.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,BR,,1492186776 121107361,121107557,2017-04-14 16:21:21,,,Anonymous,1491498953651.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,BR,,1492186881 121107361,121107624,2017-04-14 16:21:52,,,Anonymous,1491235044749.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,BR,,1492186912 121107361,121107659,2017-04-14 16:22:12,,,Anonymous,1491344211756.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,BR,,1492186932 121107361,121107691,2017-04-14 16:22:31,,,Anonymous,1491344043569.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,BR,,1492186951 121107361,121108973,2017-04-14 16:32:02,"paella is love, paella is life",,Anonymous,1490722715750.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,DE,,1492187522 121107361,121109087,2017-04-14 16:32:52,">>121108973 Paella is pretty good",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492187572 121107361,121109169,2017-04-14 16:33:20,I've got some fresh frogmen coming out. just a second folks,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,US,,1492187600 121107361,121109845,2017-04-14 16:38:36,Bump for liberty,,Anonymous,1484825708606.jpg,ctyJpdk6WTauKPEp9m9oMA==,US,,1492187916 121107361,121109986,2017-04-14 16:39:39,">>121109169 Oh god! Who did you draw this time?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492187979 121107361,121110199,2017-04-14 16:41:12,">>121109986 Not really any new ones, i wanted to redo some of the ones rushed, specifically Mises and Ron Paul",,Anonymous,Rothbard3.png,Ao8wXVVOFjOX7bswWhQDBA==,US,,1492188072 121107361,121110558,2017-04-14 16:43:41,">>121110199 I don't think I ever saw the Ron Paul one, but Mises was pretty good.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492188221 121107361,121110735,2017-04-14 16:44:57,"About time this thread was made. Whats with the inconsistencies? >inb4 make the thread yourself I'm not an austist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492188297 121107361,121110891,2017-04-14 16:46:01,Where do we fit in guys,,Anonymous,lZvISMb.png,9kdoBTFD4E2SmbgKWn+VYg==,ES,,1492188361 121107361,121111799,2017-04-14 16:51:58,">>121110735 I don't really know. When I can create then, I do",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492188718 121107361,121111943,2017-04-14 16:53:01,">>121110891 without a doubt Cantwellian. I dunno bout you guys.",,Anonymous,Ron.png,oZe6EzqH/lfIGA3SYWKk/g==,US,,1492188781 121107361,121112012,2017-04-14 16:53:37,"I was watching some mises media videos the other day and it really struck me how cucked some libertarians are. Plenty of muh racism, muh sexism to go around there. A few libertarians get it but many too left-wing to deserve any following. They won't do this, but they need to make like Trump and Hoppe and tell it like it is.",,Anonymous,1491941837139.png,PQrJIAwdYsF2X80yliqc8A==,US,,1492188817 121107361,121112104,2017-04-14 16:54:13,">>121111943 Hey, that's good!",,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo-old.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,US,,1492188853 121107361,121112114,2017-04-14 16:54:19,">>121112012 Normal libertarians want nothing to do with you dumb asses lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492188859 121107361,121112146,2017-04-14 16:54:28,,,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1492188868 121107361,121112210,2017-04-14 16:54:57,">>121112104 yeah well save this one, cuz i colored outside the lines a bit on the first",,Anonymous,Ron.png,ONq9KemJD4uFo1ZCARvqlg==,US,,1492188897 121107361,121112273,2017-04-14 16:55:23,">>121107361 Thank you for the links, especially the ""Myth of National Defense"" one. That'll be my go-to read when I poop. That's really the only time I read.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492188923 121107361,121112280,2017-04-14 16:55:27,">>121107361 Why are there so many retarded National Socialists on this board.",,Anonymous,Ancap utopia.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1492188927 121107361,121112305,2017-04-14 16:55:37,">>121111943 Same here",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492188937 121107361,121112419,2017-04-14 16:56:29,">>121112012 Look at this disgusting article, you dont have to really read it, just look at the ""reasons"" https://beinglibertarian.com/something-libertarians-must-admit-murray-rothbard-sucked/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492188989 121107361,121112459,2017-04-14 16:56:46,">>121112012 >make like Trump and tell it like it is How exactly does Trump tell it like it is? What is ""it""?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492189006 121107361,121112541,2017-04-14 16:57:24,,,Anonymous,2323232.png,WgtOR9jRb4blFTmClJrmmQ==,NL,,1492189044 121107361,121112687,2017-04-14 16:58:26,,,Anonymous,1490022131670.jpg,gjm5N12fS0kVmkLiORWcKw==,NL,,1492189106 121107361,121112728,2017-04-14 16:58:44,">>121112280 A bunch of NatSoc folk here only went that way because of race realism, and don't follow all of their beliefs. while there are some genuine well-read natsoc here the majority i believe are the uneducated college marxists of nazism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492189124 121107361,121112784,2017-04-14 16:59:16,">>121111799 Oh well that is alright, I enjoy reading the thread mostly as I find that I am one of those who doesn't really see everything eye to eye. Also don't distract me and the thread with your girl, if I recall its you by flag. >>121110891 >techno-commercialism Looked it up and first link was reddit garbage. >>121112280 Because pathetic people have to resort to thinking their skin color entitles them when they would probably get gas themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492189156 121107361,121113042,2017-04-14 17:01:07,">>121112419 >positively cites garry johnson Oh boy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492189267 121107361,121113415,2017-04-14 17:03:45,,,Anonymous,28dbb72f776fd9278bef377bd8937e41.jpg,YHoaJ4KjeviXRioBAC8agw==,NL,,1492189425 121107361,121113440,2017-04-14 17:03:54,">>121107361 How would libertarians prevent a megacorp from becoming just as powerful/restrictive of freedom as an overreaching government?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492189434 121107361,121113516,2017-04-14 17:04:27,>>121112419,,Anonymous,reeeeeee fractal.png,wFQUt/t058XW7zp4Y2ZkIQ==,US,,1492189467 121107361,121113703,2017-04-14 17:06:00,,,Anonymous,32f0c532cb78050f117f6f2d063c0cc4.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,NL,,1492189560 121107361,121113843,2017-04-14 17:07:01,">>121113440 They don't have a monopoly on the use of violence. Therefore no real ""monopoly"". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ak3TwNXA0w",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492189621 121107361,121113953,2017-04-14 17:07:48,,,Anonymous,1483887220099.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,NL,,1492189668 121107361,121113983,2017-04-14 17:08:02,,,Anonymous,Mises2.png,0nNBH+NXjEZesk1yVzny3A==,US,,1492189682 121107361,121114064,2017-04-14 17:08:37,">>121112784 >Because pathetic people have to resort to thinking their skin color entitles them when they would probably get gas themselves. Don't be so dismissive of the nat soc. They can, at the very least, feel something about the character and important of a cultural group as a unit in which the individual can grow. It just doesn't find a good form of expression because in our culture we're not allowed to express positive feelings about ourselves at the moment.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492189717 121107361,121114081,2017-04-14 17:08:44,,,Anonymous,3pm2y4.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,NL,,1492189724 121107361,121114108,2017-04-14 17:08:52,>>121107361,,AMERICA FIRST,libertarianism.png,XVCEBF2yaxcQBy+upkcKTA==,US,,1492189732 121107361,121114196,2017-04-14 17:09:38,,,Anonymous,1486768313745.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,NL,,1492189778 121107361,121114282,2017-04-14 17:10:27,">>121112419 That guy is a total fuck. Claims he's the first one to tell Johnson to pick Weld as VP, told Johnson to toss the toy gun Austin Peterson gave him, and wants Weld to take over the Libertarian Party. Block positively destroyed him in a debate over Rothbard/Friedman.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492189827 121107361,121114507,2017-04-14 17:12:19,the next step,,$7 Daddy,The Humane thing to do.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1492189939 121107361,121114546,2017-04-14 17:12:34,">>121114108 Shoo you dumb nigger",,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1492189954 121107361,121115178,2017-04-14 17:17:42,,,Anonymous,The Alt-Right.jpg,J2vvT8qBqee3xJXqRbwV2A==,US,,1492190262 121107361,121116357,2017-04-14 17:26:44,"Why did Hoppe not invite David D. Friedman into the FPS? Is it because of ... ((())) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYPAvT-3Fvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuq1gu2CEm8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQakllyniUk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bylr1ZCIJN0",,Anonymous,55496037bc5a2_david_d_friedman.jpg,4rNTqzAP5mbO+GSRyhMeOQ==,NL,,1492190804 121107361,121116602,2017-04-14 17:28:28,is this Gabriel Stellato?,,meme,,,GB,,1492190908 121107361,121116614,2017-04-14 17:28:31,"heres the full set, where did everbody go?",,Anonymous,Untitled-1.png,T+guQtAfJe/7sI5d+Mgd3g==,US,,1492190911 121107361,121116638,2017-04-14 17:28:41,">>121116357 David Friedman is a filthy utilitarian. He is the person that would say slavery could be legal if people thought it could",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492190921 121107361,121116931,2017-04-14 17:30:58,">>121116614 I'm still here. And I think only Bastiat is missing to have the complete set of libertarian thinkers",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492191058 121107361,121117006,2017-04-14 17:31:34,">>121116931 Bastiat it is then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492191094 121107361,121117088,2017-04-14 17:32:09,">>121114064 >because in our culture we're not allowed to express positive feelings about ourselves at the moment I have nothing against expressing positive feeling, I have an issue with it having to deal with race. I dislike it when people use their race regardless of what they are to justify anything and say they are better. My view on the world is that regardless of skin tone, we are all just cosmic trash. >>121115178 >tfw Kanye life is hell right now. >>121116614 Grilling. >>121116614 Nice!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492191129 121107361,121117250,2017-04-14 17:33:11,">>121117006 Kek, I love your work and your style, you bring /lrg/ to life with fresh libertarian pepes",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492191191 121107361,121117531,2017-04-14 17:35:09,"Im looking for an audio clip where Hoppe says somthing along the lines of ""the state may send men to come along and break you kneecaps"" does anyone know what im talking about? it would be a golden audio clip to mess with. >>121117088 >>121117250 Thanks meng.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492191309 121107361,121118193,2017-04-14 17:39:54,">>121117531 Hm, I do not remember that specific quote. I'll be watching some of his speeches today and I'll see if I can find it",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492191594 121107361,121118377,2017-04-14 17:41:16,">>121110199 Amazing Rothbard, I like this one better. GG. >>121110891 Cantwellians most likely.",,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,PT,,1492191676 121107361,121118832,2017-04-14 17:45:01,">>121118377 Ayyy Portubro, how is it going? And next one is Bastiat, pretty excited for it",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492191901 121107361,121119392,2017-04-14 17:49:18,">>121116614 Motherfucker, I was doing that image just now kek. Congratulations this looks awesome! Can you post the Hayek one pls? These look awesome. >>121118832 Yeah, Bastiat too. Perhaps Lew Rockwell, Kinsella and Walter Block since they're Hoppe's /guys/.",,Anonymous,helicopter.png,wIxmmn+QFSYAExv43emNyw==,PT,,1492192158 121107361,121119475,2017-04-14 17:49:52,">>121112687 kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492192192 121107361,121119541,2017-04-14 17:50:22,">>121117531 I'll look it up.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492192222 121107361,121119689,2017-04-14 17:51:25,">>121116614 based af Thank you for including Hayek too, he is underappreciated in these threads.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492192285 121107361,121120169,2017-04-14 17:54:55,"COMMUNISM WILL DOMINATE THE EARTH Lolberts never had a mass movement and never will. It's an ideology that can only appeal to the most autistic of individuals.",,Anonymous,marxism-leninism_3-t.jpg,2qLdVCjC3kaVCkldFsj6KA==,US,,1492192495 121107361,121120409,2017-04-14 17:56:36,>>121120169,,Anonymous,1491840075588.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,GB,,1492192596 121107361,121120582,2017-04-14 17:57:47,">>121120169 >implying communism ever worked >implying your post is real You are imaginary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492192667 121107361,121121024,2017-04-14 18:01:31,">>121118193 its kinda an old shitty camera looking clip, looks like a small room, not an auditorium like most of his clips anway heres bastiat, im done making these for now. i'll do it up again another time.",,Anonymous,Bastiat.png,TX0566qZ7sI/Rsczod3/6A==,US,,1492192891 121107361,121121055,2017-04-14 18:01:41,"mates, Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand can BTFO",,meme,,,GB,,1492192901 121107361,121121065,2017-04-14 18:01:46,">>121110891 The """"""(((alt-right)))"""""" is massive faggotry. I'm a classic ancap and I believe in universal discrimination, private property, being left alone with retardation and the abolishment of any state-structure with a monopoly on violence and currency. Fuck your reddit bullshit. The """"""(((alt-right)))"""""" is the same cancer as modern liberal fascists and dahnald-cock suckers are. Even National (((Socialists))) are more acceptable. Period.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492192906 121107361,121121170,2017-04-14 18:02:30,">>121121065 I don't even know what alt-right means anymore.",,Anonymous,Full.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1492192950 121107361,121121230,2017-04-14 18:02:57,">>121119392 sure.",,Anonymous,Hayek.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,US,,1492192977 121107361,121121263,2017-04-14 18:03:11,">>121120409 take this bonus version",,Anonymous,FREE RIDES.jpg,wqvhVYBsmATA6KtATe70TA==,US,,1492192991 121107361,121121302,2017-04-14 18:03:32,">>121121024 Oh fuck yes, now I have completed my libertarian pepes set. Thanks you!",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492193012 121107361,121121446,2017-04-14 18:04:33,"Hoppe, Rothbard, Mises, Ron Paul, Bastiat, Hazlitt, Menger, Hayek, Nigel Farage and Lew Rockwell = DREAMTEAM",,meme,,,GB,,1492193073 121107361,121121464,2017-04-14 18:04:43,">>121121170 That's exactly the point. It's the same shit as ""progressivism"" on the other side of the spectrum. Hell, there are fucking ""furry natsocs"" as part of the """"""(((alt-right)))"""""". Fuck their degeneracy and illiteracy. Bunch of fucking degenerate retards claiming grounds via self-entitlement.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492193083 121107361,121121499,2017-04-14 18:05:02,">>121121230 Amazing. Thanks.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492193102 121107361,121121794,2017-04-14 18:07:11,">>121116638 He's also completely amoral and then of course theres the chapter open the gates in his book. A complete blunder Also he doesnt seem to comprehend the practicality (utility) of the NAP. He just keeps analytically nitpicking at it with hyperbolic scenarios thus ignoring what the actual use of a principle is supposed to be.",,Anonymous,BanJKis.jpg,SnEQCTcPv+EPuDYiCg+3CQ==,NL,,1492193231 121107361,121121948,2017-04-14 18:08:27,">>121121170 It died when the Nazi's hijacked the term to say AltRight = Nazism. Even though we all tried so hard to say that AltRightism is not nazism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492193307 121107361,121122174,2017-04-14 18:10:10,">>121109845 >Think about it. Nice touch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492193410 121107361,121122609,2017-04-14 18:13:12,">>121121464 >furry natsocs HAHAAHAHA",,Anonymous,furry heat map.jpg,erxr1FwXZxmwm6FMWTXPoQ==,US,,1492193592 121107361,121122666,2017-04-14 18:13:36,">>121121948 I thought Nazis had it first, being that they are constantly rebranding themselves. Then trumpers and conservatives got pulled into the label when the Hillary campaign accused them of being alt right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492193616 121107361,121122686,2017-04-14 18:13:48,"""... Capitalism cannot exist without a host state, just as corporations cannot exist without property laws, state charters, copyright and patent protections, and a host of other government interventions.""",,Anonymous,IMG_066.png,4PyhsQD9n58xD4QKUrDEpw==,US,,1492193628 121107361,121122833,2017-04-14 18:14:55,>>121121794,,Anonymous,3276968._UY400_SS400_.jpg,LV3WMGj69zoXSmk5FmNL9g==,US,,1492193695 121107361,121122896,2017-04-14 18:15:26,">>121122686 >voluntary transactions cannot exist without coercion",,Anonymous,1491385941262.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,NL,,1492193726 121107361,121122944,2017-04-14 18:15:48,">>121122686 Funny how you are from a country founded by capitalist and for capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492193748 121107361,121123040,2017-04-14 18:16:39,">>121107361 CAn't we have a good old automated word swap for the words marxist and communist on this board that substitutes the words and phrases 'economic cancer' for marxism and subhuman for communist. Cunt for Marx. And Autist for socialist. Autism for socialism etc",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492193799 121107361,121123111,2017-04-14 18:17:17,">>121122686 >capitalism cannot exist with government >just like government cannot exist without government Chomsky is still retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492193837 121107361,121123176,2017-04-14 18:17:50,">>121117088 >I have an issue with it having to deal with race. There's several reasons why race matters whether we like it or not, with the possibility of a third reason. (1) The simple fact that people categorizes themselves according to race is not without consequences. Through this automatic categorization, there is an immediate identification of an out group and an in group for the individual and, as a result, the relations between individuals of different groups are affected WHETHER WE WANT IT OR NOT. (2) This group identification is very tightly correlated with different histories, and different position relative to historical events. As a result, the institutions and the culture that are part of this historical process will not have the same valence for a person of one race versus that of an other. A black person feels quite differently about the founding fathers than does a white person. (3) Race is also coupled with culture through the mechanism of cultural vertical transmission. Vertically transmitted traits are those which are passed on from parent to child. Religion and language are usually transmitted in such a manner. What this mean is that different racial groups having developed different culture will conserve these traits across generations. (4) The possibility of emergent properties of race dynamic must also be taken into account. The phenomena of self segregation, which is racial segregation happening without anyone explicitly wishing for it is one example. (5) The fact of homophily -- the tendency of people to hang out with people that are ""like them"" (along some dimension) -- also means that racial similarity foster the creation of racially homogeneous group, and with it distinct identities and sub culture and the creation of out and in group. There's other stuff. Notice that I didn't mention IQ and criminality and the possibility of biological determination. It's possible that it also plays a part but no matter.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492193870 121107361,121123436,2017-04-14 18:20:02,">>121122944 Yeah and?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492194002 121107361,121123474,2017-04-14 18:20:23,">>121117088 >My view on the world is that regardless of skin tone, we are all just cosmic trash. Notice that you, nor anybody else for that matter, act according to that precept. You'd rather live in the US than in Somalia. You'd rather live surrounded by secularist than by a bunch of (vertically transmitted) rabid Muzz. You distinguish between your family and other human being. That whole thing about undifferentiated humanity, about the ""common star dust"", is metaphorical drivel used to give credence to what is at the bottom an utopian fantasy: the idea of all the people of the world shedding their own historical determination and coming together in harmony under the liberal order. It'll end as all utopias ended. In failure.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492194023 121107361,121123750,2017-04-14 18:22:41,">>121123176 Now add on top of that the fact that race is a fact of evolutionary biology that determines pretty much every aspect of our physical existence including behavioural tendencies, reproductive strategies, intelligence and thought processes.",,Anonymous,1487189245337.jpg,AjpYBQIMzB6WVd0Qv3xMBQ==,NL,,1492194161 121107361,121124842,2017-04-14 18:31:53,">>121123750 That's something that's thrown around a lot on /pol/ with an ASTONISHING degree of carelessness. This is very obviously FALSE and something people on /pol/ desperately want to be true. >are you saying there's no biological influence hurf durf No.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492194713 121107361,121125488,2017-04-14 18:37:00,">>121124842 Well, then what is your precise claim. That race is not linked to intelligence or behaviour. It's not enough to say you don't like it.",,Anonymous,1421656670275.jpg,vPGXtRachSINkZQ+NG2kWw==,NL,,1492195020 121107361,121126017,2017-04-14 18:41:08,">>121124842 Our biology does determine our evolutionary strategy and behavior, even if you don't want to compare on racial lines. To what extent do you disagree?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492195268 121107361,121126318,2017-04-14 18:43:27,">>121125488 Christ I literally wrote >>are you saying there's no biological influence hurf durf >No. It's very clear we're gonna know more in the future about the link between genetics, intelligence, behavior and so on. But /pol/ really act as though the links are MUCH harder and much better established than they really are because of the fact, at the bottom, they're just racist and they don't want to live with black people. Now, that's perfectly fine by me for people to want that, but it's still not a reason to act as if things are settled on this matter when really they aren't. I don't need to be convinced on the reality of race as categories. The argument according to which they're ""social constructions"" is ridiculous. The hysteria surrounding the possibility of a link between race and intelligence is ridiculous. But the claim of an ""iron law of biological determination"" is likewise completely hyperbolic at the moment.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492195407 121107361,121126642,2017-04-14 18:45:48,">>121126017 In the sense, for instance, that we're a sexually dimorphic specie with intra sexual competition and sexual selection etc? That's very general and applies to all races so I don't see how it would be relevant to issue of differences between the races or the desirability of multicultural societies.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492195548 121107361,121126826,2017-04-14 18:47:15,"In the last thread there was a Canadian guy who wanted some quotes from The Road To Serfdom but the thread had archived before I could post them, I dunno if he's still there but I'm going to dump them ""The word 'truth' itself ceases to have its old meaning. It describes no longer something to be found, with the individual conscience as the sole arbiter of whether in any particular instance the evidence (or the standing of those proclaiming it) warrants a belief; it becomes something to be laid down by authority, something which has to believed in the interest of unity of the organized effort and which may have to be altered as the exigencies of this organized effort require it."" Friedrich Hayek - The Road to Serfdom",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492195635 121107361,121126959,2017-04-14 18:48:17,">>121126318 >Christ I literally wrote Because you are know and are telling yourself you are spewing bullshit and so there's a cognitive dissonance where you already know what a rational me would assume and ask. >because of the fact, at the bottom, they're just racist Not. An. Argument. Learn some science",,Anonymous,1483219034066.jpg,iAAuKwSGJ+8rVziWEuMjsQ==,NL,,1492195697 121107361,121127173,2017-04-14 18:49:58,">>121107361 what is aleppo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492195798 121107361,121127268,2017-04-14 18:50:45,">>121126826 ""There can be no doubt that the promise of greater freedom has become one of the most effective weapons of socialist propaganda and that the belief that socialism would bring freedom is genuine and sincere. But this would only heighten the tragedy if it should prove that what was promised to us as the Road to Freedom was in fact the High Road to Servitude. Unquestionably, the promise of more freedom was responsible for luring more and more liberals along the socialist road, for blinding them to the conflict which exists between the basic principles of socialism and liberalism, and for often enabling socialists to usurp the very name of the old party of freedom. Socialism was embraced by the greater part of the intelligentsia as the apparent heir of the liberal tradition: therefore it is not surprising that to them the idea of socialism's leading to the opposite of liberty should appear inconceivable."" ""We can unfortunately not indefinitely extend the sphere of common action and still leave the individual free in his own sphere. Once the communal sector, in which the state controls all the means, exceeds a certain proportion of the whole, the effects of its actions dominate the whole system. Although the state controls directly the use of only a large part of the available resources, the effects of its decisions on the remaining part of the economic system become so great that indirectly it controls almost everything."" Friedrich Hayek - The Road to Serfdom",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492195845 121107361,121127280,2017-04-14 18:50:51,">>121123176 Once again I say its not wrong for these things to happen under circumstances without any government influence. I guess I should of mention that in my previous post However as a mix/color/whatever I am person I find only point three has really applied to me as I find that it is true but its not a driving factor on how someone would turn out. There too many other factors that can lead to a multiple variants on how a person could develop personally. I can use myself as an example because I find discrimination comes from everyone, even those who claim that are not. Its just something part of our society that slows are progress to a better society through capitalism. >>121123474 >Notice that you, nor anybody else for that matter, act according to that precept. Yet I do, I could give a damn about what a person is as long as who they are is someone who has good morals. Also bring up where I live and who I choose to live along side of doesn't matter to me. If things were better in Somalia I would live there but its a shit hole and personally not a place I would want to live based off of geography and climate. >>121123436 You should be thrown from a helicopter. >>121125488 I see this going around yet I find myself an outlier to it and even further down my family tree to my Great Grandfather. Also your stuff only looks at race, be real when there is more factors then that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492195851 121107361,121127413,2017-04-14 18:51:50,">>121127173 You can't bomb Syria if you don't know where it is... But seriously, Johnson is a filthy leftists that should get physically removed from society.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492195910 121107361,121127459,2017-04-14 18:52:18,">>121127268 ""The state should confine itself to establishing rules applying to general types of situations and should allow the individuals freedom in everything which depends on the circumstances of time and place, because only the individuals concerned in each instance can fully know these circumstances and adapt their actions to them. If the individuals are able to use their knowledge effectively in making plans, they must be able to predict actions of the state which may affect these plans. But if the actions of the state are to be predictable, they must be determined by rules fixed independently of the concrete circumstances which can be neither foreseen nor taken into account beforehand; and the particular effects of such actions will be unpredictable. If, on the other hand, the state were to direct the individual’s actions so as the achieve particular ends, its actions would have to be decided on the basis of the full circumstances of the moment and would therefore be unpredictable. Hence the familiar fact that the more the state “plans”, the more difficult planning becomes for the individual."" Friedrich Hayek - The Road to Serfdom",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492195938 121107361,121127706,2017-04-14 18:54:14,">>121127280 >I don't believe in evolution Just say it, theres plenty of christfags in here",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492196054 121107361,121127737,2017-04-14 18:54:32,">>121126959 >Not. An. Argument. >Learn some science I'm not using the word ""racism"" as an insult. You're a racist simply because scientific racism is racism. I don't care that you're a racist. I consider racism to be a position people can have. I have literally zero cognitive dissonance on the subject. We don't know the degree to which biology and race determines certain behavior and even if it did it wouldn't give you the precious ethno state. But ethno statist just LOVE to pretend that this science is all settled and that the result of the genetic experiment is ""deport all Africans"". While I fucking hate the idea of a diverse society for all the reasons I mentioned that's just not what the science is at the moment and the biological account doesn't even begin to describe what the actual problems with the diverse society is. The fundamental problem is the possibility of inter ethnic conflicts. You can't phrase that in biological term unless you really start to grasp at straws. I'm totally OPEN to the possibility of a great degree of genetic determination. I do not care about what the results are ultimately going to be. I care that the results as they are now are systematically misrepresented for no purpose at all. It doesn't even help. >>121126826 Good shit.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492196072 121107361,121128166,2017-04-14 18:58:11,My favourite Hayek quote is the one where essentially explains the ultimate failings of a democratic state as they can't balance multiple objectives/end-points at once.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492196291 121107361,121128203,2017-04-14 18:58:27,">>121127737 >realising that biological evolution applies to humans too means you're an ethno statist just stop. you've been for a couple of weeks and have no idea about the arguments, the rationale or the zeitgeist of people here. You haven't got a clue about scientific evidence regarding evolution and you don't seem to want to progress. Because you don't believe in evolution. Simple",,Anonymous,1466288475328.png,yiJ11vaT2R1PgDBX7tjPsA==,NL,,1492196307 121107361,121128386,2017-04-14 18:59:56,">>121127280 The problem is that all the phenomena I listed are more properly understood to be group phenomena. You need to consider groups and their characteristics to see it. Thus, saying something like ""it doesn't apply to me"" misses the mark, as it consist in applying the wrong level of resolution to think about what I'm describing. I am not implying that you're not a good person, that something should be done against you, and so on and so forth. My position on these matters is rather nuanced and I haven't written ""the pamphlet"" about it. >I could give a damn about what a person is as long as who they are is someone who has good morals. That's a negation of ideal you expressed. You discriminate between people and, in so far as there are differences between groups of people (at the mean level) then you must also discriminate between these. Likewise for cultural groups. Things are couples together and will have group level impact whether we want it or not. We need to take these things into account if we want to end up with the society we want. To say ""people should only think individualistically"" and to then subsequently say ""I will act as if all people though individualistically"" will lead to extremely poor decision making.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492196396 121107361,121128540,2017-04-14 19:01:03,">>121128203 Bitch please.",,Anonymous,troublesome inheritance.jpg,j2Qv4yUTI2KO+Ru/9iiBjA==,CA,,1492196463 121107361,121128593,2017-04-14 19:01:26,">>121128203 I mean please.",,Anonymous,"The_10,000_Year_Explosion_(Cover).jpg",iYrTv21cQqEkSsaNEKzPWg==,CA,,1492196486 121107361,121128628,2017-04-14 19:01:37,">>121126642 Just because we all have the same biological endgoals (reproduction) doesn't mean we have the same means to get there. for example Race A comes from a very patriarical socety where the tradition is to ask you potential waifus father for aproval. race A will evolve to ""the fathers"" standards of manhood Race B is a society like most modern countires where you engage in the sexual marketplace. Race B will evolve to be charming and preferable for females wants/needs Race C is barbaric, most reproduction is through rape, Race C will evolve to be physically strong and agressive from these enviorments biological traits come about through evolution and leave their mark long after being removed from their previous enviorment >>121127737 to clarify I know im a racist. I'm just saying that biology has massive implications not only physically but culturally.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492196497 121107361,121128667,2017-04-14 19:01:56,">>121128203 Someone stop me!",,Anonymous,evolution of human sex differences.gif,m3BQIbJg2w+Fj4qig9Ywdw==,CA,,1492196516 121107361,121128872,2017-04-14 19:03:32,">>121128593 >>121128540 >We don't know the degree to which biology and race determines certain behavior",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492196612 121107361,121129101,2017-04-14 19:05:27,">>121128628 I really have some doubt about the idea that culturally influenced sexual selection could have lead to race differences in temperament and so on. I don't think that's settled science at all. >I'm just saying that biology has massive implications not only physically but culturally. But see isn't that just a tentative hypothesis that's not confirmed? To be sure, since immigration is irreversible, then it follows that, on a prudential basis, we should take the possibility of genetic differences into account and start moderating our enthusiasm concerning immigration, but there's no point in asserting as settled something that isn't.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492196727 121107361,121129289,2017-04-14 19:06:56,">>121128872 Dude, even in the warrior gene study they only showed greater prevalence in inmates guilty of a violent crime. They didn't come up with some 100% deterministic model for behavior prediction.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492196816 121107361,121129446,2017-04-14 19:08:12,">>121110891 On the line of pinochet libertarian and paleolibertarian, slight lean on social conservative values and hard belief in free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492196892 121107361,121129448,2017-04-14 19:08:12,">>121129101 blacks are r-selected whereas people of cold climates are k-selected. Two different reproductive strategies and adaptations to climate",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492196892 121107361,121129518,2017-04-14 19:08:54,">>121129289 race factor",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492196934 121107361,121129888,2017-04-14 19:12:09,">>121129448 I watched the whole of that video series by Molymeme and his point was to highlight differences between certain groups of people, not between races. I don't think he ever says ""blacks are r-selected"". Look I'm done with this.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492197129 121107361,121130018,2017-04-14 19:13:12,">>121127706 No I believe in evolution, I think there are still many missing pieces in proving what is myth and fact. >>121128386 I can see where you are taking your side of the argument and understand it. I do agree with that individuals do tend to make poor decision making in the grand scheme of things however I do see that societies should reward those who excel personally but this can't be done where we have the same societies that try to prevent such growths in the name of culture and identity to that. Its more prevalent in minorities that they tend to not want to see their own do better then them and its a trend that is hard to break. Look at the damnation of Kanye West as of late from his own. Its problematic issue that I would say whites have mostly gotten over but now its all about being politically correct which has lead to more racism, either direct or indirect. Its nice to see others that understand race and issues that revolve it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492197192 121107361,121130149,2017-04-14 19:14:20,">>121128166 This one? I'm not sure if I've read it yet I still haven't finished the book and I take quotes from internet, I read it in french. Some chapters are kind of hard to digest, I don't know shit about laws yet it takes some time to understand things through that perspective Democracy is essentially a means, a utilitarian device for safeguarding internal peace and individual freedom. As such it is by no means infallible or certain. Nor must we forget that there has often been much more cultural and spiritual freedom under an autocratic rule than under some democracies and it is at least conceivable that under the government of a very homogeneous and doctrinaire majority democratic government might be as oppressive as the worst dictatorship. Friedrich Hayek - The Road to Serfdom",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492197260 121107361,121130252,2017-04-14 19:15:08,">>121129101 I've done little rading on the subject so i can't give you authoritive evidence but it seems like the logical basis of evolution, if ones enviorment (over many reproduction cycles) requires a species to be highly empathetic with others around them then the people holding the ""selfish asshole"" genes will not be as succesful and that genetic code will die off and people will be more culturally empathetic. >>121129888 Nice Hoppean Trips, the holiest of trips.",,Anonymous,HoppeTrips.png,4ROOvuFqkxjpUPyJkRnS7Q==,US,,1492197308 121107361,121130378,2017-04-14 19:16:16,Ayn Rand rule 34 when?,,Anonymous,kek low time preferences.png,gaEeddanBpFYGGD6SunPMQ==,US,,1492197376 121107361,121130611,2017-04-14 19:18:16,">>121130018 The kind of things I'm concerned about is what this report talks about, which is that to stop inter ethnic conflicts, government needs to step in so as to make sure that the racial groups are equal. That's just one of the way in which diversity is inimical to liberty. The whole diversity issue is multi factorial and mostly to be conceived of at the level of groups, inter group conflicts, group phenomena and so on. There's no reason to hate a dude.",,Anonymous,horizontal inequalities and conflict.jpg,aYVCzDIj7fazcZU/LzYaRg==,CA,,1492197496 121107361,121130721,2017-04-14 19:19:10,">>121121794 Well, thoroughly understanding the NAP right away is a pretty rough pill to swallow. Friedman is a great gateway author to get normies into ancapism through practical analysis of the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1492197550 121107361,121130744,2017-04-14 19:19:21,">>121130378 kek, i remember one documentary where the actor that player her was kinda hot, but in reality shes pretty ugly. would not bang.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492197561 121107361,121131214,2017-04-14 19:23:01,"Hey while the topic of race stuff is still lingering i wanna know what you think. Did Ron Paul write those racist newsletters? I think he did. if he is the closet anarchist i think he is then he must be way more reactionary than he lets off because he needed votes from the left during his run.",,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,US,,1492197781 121107361,121131445,2017-04-14 19:24:52,">>121130721 Agreed. He's made great contributions though. He is a genius.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492197892 121107361,121131500,2017-04-14 19:25:17,">>121130611 Yeah I've seen the conflicts between multiple groups but there is a way to overcome such things. You would have to point the groups to a common goal and I don't think the U.S. needs another 9/11.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492197917 121107361,121132093,2017-04-14 19:30:25,">>121131500 That's true in small group context. For instance, researchers can induce inter group competition and hostility between artificial groups and then test for reconciliation strategies. Common goals are one of them. The problem is that a society is not an experimental context. Furthermore a free society is precisely one that defines itself as prescribing no overarching goal for its citizenry. In other word, we can presume that a ""common goal"" would prevent inter group conflict (as long as the goal was active) but there is no way to create such a goal or project in a free society. To create (impose) it would be the very negation of said free society. That's a feature of diversity. In order to manage it you have to destroy freedom. (Of speech, of association, of scientific inquiry, etc.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492198225 121107361,121132838,2017-04-14 19:36:32,">>121130744 >44",,Anonymous,kek card.png,RR6ZyB3H7ItH2I5nNXY46A==,US,,1492198592 121107361,121133469,2017-04-14 19:41:25,"In an AnCap society, who enforces the NAP? Why wouldn't some ultra rich person assemble a huge private army and act like a government? Could I sell my children? With private law, how would two people actually agree on one court?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492198885 121107361,121133762,2017-04-14 19:43:51,">>121130149 Here: >Yet the difference is that, while the general who is put in charge of a campaign is given a single end to which, for the duration of the campaign, all the means under his control have to be exclusively devoted, there can be no such single goal given to the economic planner, and no similar limitation of the means imposed upon him. The general has not got to balance different independent aims against each other; there is for him only one supreme goal. But the ends of an economic plan, or of any part of it, cannot be defined apart from the particular plan. It is the essence of the economic problem that the making of an economic plan involves the choice between conflicting or competing ends-different needs of different people. But which ends do so conflict, which will have to be sacrificed if we want to achieve certain others, in short, which are the alternatives between which we must choose, can only be known to those who know all the facts; and only they, the experts, are in a position to decide which of the different ends are to be given preference. It is inevitable that they should impose their scale of preferences on the community for which they plan. p.78 for context http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Friedrich%20August%20Hayek/Friedrich_Hayek%20-%20The_road_to_serfdom.pdf",,Anonymous,tfw to clever too use helicopters.png,ACU6pKCeca5UM0X5NqimKQ==,GB,,1492199031 121107361,121135440,2017-04-14 19:56:56,>>121130378,,Anonymous,1491428093217.jpg,lbhaGVC+7+9OqzaY1jYGyA==,GB,,1492199816 121107361,121135561,2017-04-14 19:57:55,">>121121948 Pretty sure the alt right were white nationalists before you guys hijacked the term.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492199875 121107361,121135668,2017-04-14 19:58:39,"I'm here from /sg/. Thanks for bread-approval. Here, grab a snek in return. If you are missing days related to pic, come find us. We are there, waiting for you in our shill&plebdittors-free heaven",,Anonymous,1491955966886.jpg,p+HmqvuZMC3fkqjnGQ3Whw==,PL,,1492199919 121107361,121136009,2017-04-14 20:01:23,">>121133469 NAP is already what we naturally conform to and what we teach children. Aggression is never justified. Violence as self-defense is. Never throw the first punch, always throw the last, the one who started it is in the wrong, finders keepers etc. Ancap is simply saying we do not tolerate or legitimise any exceptions to this rule anymore. And what naturally results is that no one has a legal monopoly on violence. If their arsenal gets too big, worried people will ostracise. They cant act like a government because they dont have a monopoly on taxation. >selling children read from page 103 to 107 http://anarcho-capitalist.org/wp-content/pdfs/Rothbard%20(Murray)%20-%20The%20Ethics%20of%20Liberty.pdf >how would two people actually agree on one court You would both decide on a pick from a list of reputable judges/courts. You can choose based on reputation but you can also choose based on cultural values that are usually espoused by this court.",,Anonymous,1490521379655.jpg,AJncu3hMuCcjzR0lglETSw==,NL,,1492200083 121107361,121136090,2017-04-14 20:02:04,">>121135668 Generals are increasingly becoming the market solution to a shill-free, reddit-free, comfy, interesting and insightful browsing experience on /pol/ once more. the free market does it again",,Anonymous,1398343968784.jpg,QPJdcyUnDjniYfL8XijPMQ==,GB,,1492200124 121107361,121136885,2017-04-14 20:08:00,">>121136090 But we need to remove /ptg/ as it becomes most cancerous place. And I am still wondering how to get rid of ""white boyzz can't competeth"" and other shit threads.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1492200480 121107361,121137275,2017-04-14 20:10:42,">>121136885 Agreed, I made a thread the other day addressing mods - they need to update the OP to include the endless 'thoughts on pjw' 'whiteboys cant compete n shit 'we waz' and 'wtf i hate drumpf now', etc. Thread actually stayed up for 100 posts or so whilst others were being actively deleted, the implication being mods and jannies were listening. Hopefully shilling dies down with the election now over too >maybe",,Anonymous,1409832166955.jpg,Eg6UzXyo5O55WbsJjFPwEA==,GB,,1492200642 121107361,121137690,2017-04-14 20:13:55,">>121137275 One can only hope. In the meantime...",,Anonymous,keep-calm-and-think-libertarian-1.png,ShuGTF5Y/+GrLfnxUtNYXw==,PL,,1492200835 121107361,121137834,2017-04-14 20:15:03,>when one of your mates says he's just joking about physically removing communists.,,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1492200903 121107361,121138184,2017-04-14 20:17:37,">>121133762 Kek nice Hayek, saved. I remember that part, it's a pretty good comparison, it's even more true in planist democracies where it switches from left to right every 5 years, not only inside their own paradigm they can't make coherant plans that satisfy every interests, but every 5 years there is a widely different paradigm that get adopted and they spend 2 years breaking half of the shit the previous government did.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492201057 121107361,121138540,2017-04-14 20:20:00,">>121137834 Let me tell you. there is a lot of cleaning to do up here in my flag.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1492201200 121107361,121138693,2017-04-14 20:21:05,">>121120169 BROTHERS OF FREEDOM WILL PURGE",,Anonymous,8787689.jpg,lC7fBYClOk8Q8cQPqMKsmA==,US,,1492201265 121107361,121139173,2017-04-14 20:24:23,">>121136885 >removing /ptg/ What is this aggression? Are you a shill sir?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492201463 121107361,121139484,2017-04-14 20:26:37,">>121138540 I wish you luck, remove them from their very consciousness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492201597 121107361,121139537,2017-04-14 20:26:55,">>121139173 Are you a fuckin lea... oh wait you are. I would like it to see /ptg/ frozen untill we are sure that he is not a neo-cons puppet. That is all.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1492201615 121107361,121140250,2017-04-14 20:32:22,">>121139537 >be in libertarian thread >want to ban a peaceful general because he doesn't like their opinion m8",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492201942 121107361,121140715,2017-04-14 20:35:53,">>121140250 It's more like they are chimpiing out a bit, like that Syria (((gas))) attack. At one point it was like reading r/the_dolan. I welcome discussion, but let it be settle upon FACTS, not ASSUMPTIONS. Also, gib maple syrup.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1492202153 121107361,121141243,2017-04-14 20:40:08,">>121121170 Damnit Johnson have some trigger discipline.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492202408 121107361,121141683,2017-04-14 20:43:45,"This reasoning should either be the ultimate redpill or at least very close of it. Just noted that Hans-Hermann Hoppe achronym is HHH (or H3) - pointless I know",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492202625 121107361,121144226,2017-04-14 21:03:59,bump,,Anonymous,frog no gf.jpg,TZHXSm9rGTvZuO5nlkUaFQ==,US,,1492203839 121107361,121144955,2017-04-14 21:09:22,">>121121794 Does anyone have the updated version of this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492204162 121193289,121193289,2017-04-15 05:39:27,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - COME AND GET IT EDITION,Anonymous,Flag.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1492234767 121193289,121193403,2017-04-15 05:40:58,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1492234858 121193289,121194070,2017-04-15 05:50:36,,,Anonymous,Master_Race.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1492235436 121193289,121195635,2017-04-15 06:11:48,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1492236708 121193289,121196066,2017-04-15 06:17:48,How accurate is pic related?,,Anonymous,64a.jpg,knq1UoV9ZHHfaXTPzyH/1w==,GB,,1492237068 121193289,121196318,2017-04-15 06:21:44,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOFuhXn36Ew,,Anonymous,ron rand lrg.jpg,GGj/N/x9Ht/PrOnGNejW6w==,AU,,1492237304 121193289,121196358,2017-04-15 06:22:17,">>121194283 thanks for reading list whoever that was",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492237337 121193289,121196415,2017-04-15 06:23:09,">>121196066 pretty accurate. I would use preemptive force against gommies, left-libertarians say that makes me a fascist. anyway if that does make me some kind of statist or fascist im cool with that. but I'm still an anarcho-capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492237389 121193289,121196663,2017-04-15 06:27:04,">>121196415 Aren't you then saying that others should be allowed to use preemptive force against you?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492237624 121193289,121196710,2017-04-15 06:27:51,"BUMP FOR FREEDOM AND LIBERTY Anyone hyped for Kyle's rally in Berkeley today? It's gonna be lit as fuck.",,Anonymous,kyle freedom.jpg,FL6tCPB2gAlcjH4ddaXjxQ==,SK,,1492237671 121193289,121196739,2017-04-15 06:28:13,">>121193289 Am I alone in believing abortion violates the NAP? If I'm pro-life for this reasoning am I not Libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492237693 121193289,121196825,2017-04-15 06:29:30,">>121196663 They may try, and they'll be put down. Our use of force is legitimate because their ideology is a threat to our life through coersion, either by governments or by the ""mob rule"" that AnComs propose. In our system, they'd live fine, but no, their ideology must base itself around theft from those who are more productive than others.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492237770 121193289,121196861,2017-04-15 06:29:59,">>121196663 Being a communist in my country is preemptive force against me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492237799 121193289,121196915,2017-04-15 06:31:00,">>121196739 Abortion does violate the NAP. I mean, doctors are already comparing it to killing newborn babies (or rather vice-versa) - IN ORDER TO NORMALISE KILLING NEWBORN BABIES. Liberalism's gotta go. We had a shot, it didn't work out, time to say our goodbyes as we toss it into the trash bin of history.",,Anonymous,rothbard state.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,SK,,1492237860 121193289,121196927,2017-04-15 06:31:07,">>121196663 If I'm violent ideologue hellbent on ending private property then yeah. we should physically remove communists in a very literal sense if we want to maintain a libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492237867 121193289,121197050,2017-04-15 06:32:52,">>121196861 If they're soft socialists and not keen on revolution, they may stay in low numbers - somebody gotta flip the burgers. If they start organising, well - somebody gotta be farmed for organs.",,Anonymous,pissed off ancapball.png,GV8cJqYI+PQ8K3WD7f35kw==,SK,,1492237972 121193289,121197089,2017-04-15 06:33:28,">>121196861 >>121196927 What about socialists, democrats, neo-conservatives, republicans and national socialists? Why are communists specifically deserving of preemptive retaliation?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492238008 121193289,121197099,2017-04-15 06:33:36,">>121196927 Pretty much this. They gotta go.",,Anonymous,ancap vs ancom frogs.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,SK,,1492238016 121193289,121197204,2017-04-15 06:35:02,">>121196915 Are you the Slovak who I stole that quote from originally? if so, you're based as fuck and you represent us in a way I can feel proud of.",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1492238102 121193289,121197355,2017-04-15 06:37:40,">>121197089 >Why are communists specifically deserving of preemptive retaliation Because their political beliefs are inherently destructive as proven by history.",,Anonymous,1490498626402.jpg,oQQoUuc4ikM2Avec1MfnXw==,US,,1492238260 121193289,121197447,2017-04-15 06:38:57,">>121197089 >socialists literal commies in my eyes, will be removed with prejudice >democrats removed >neo-cons I don't like them, but I wouldn't think them to be a threat >republicucks again not my pals but they can stay. >national socialists They can stay if they ostrisize the fuck out of any kebabs or degenerates that somehow got into my community and don't radicalize or form any rebellion against my community guidelines.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492238337 121193289,121197562,2017-04-15 06:40:58,">>121197089 Communists have been historically the most dangerous of the bunch. >socialists Like I said in >>121197050, they can stay as long as they stay in line. Some of them might be a net benefit to the covenant. >democrats Oh those gotta go. Not necessarily be killed, but their ideology is a threat to harmony between and within covenants, threatening private property and peaceful coexistence because democracy is inherently expansive while the idea of Hoppean covenants is to keep shit tucked in and only expand against outright enemies. >neo-cons Well they're the opposite side of the Jew coin. We don't want hawkish policies against neighbours or strategic allies, so they gotta go. Also they threaten trade by tariffs (which are a tool of soft warfare, so to speak). >republicans Most of them are aight or at least normie enough to not stir shit. Build them a church and a shooting range and a Hooters joint and they'll be happy. They can stay. >natsocs Most of them are well-grounded people with solid foundations that would be a benefit to any society, excluding neetsocs and rednecks. If they don't engage themselves politically and keep their ideas of tribalism (not incompatible) and social cohesion to a cultural level, they're invited. All those memes about gassing Hitler are in case they try to invade in which case they get the same treatment commies would get. Also, neighbouring commie covenants gotta be torched as well. Just to make sure.",,Anonymous,ancap tap.jpg,Im78nhpQ2Fz7mfuOeqsi6A==,SK,,1492238458 121193289,121197622,2017-04-15 06:41:54,">>121197204 YES! Thanks, mate. I knew it was familiar when I saw it. Are you the bad goy who makes the OC like pic related?",,Anonymous,ayn rand pepe.png,I0m72rH2uDq7+gfqYipWrQ==,SK,,1492238514 121193289,121197722,2017-04-15 06:43:26,">>121197447 >NatSocs It's this specific reason why I want them to stay. They can keep a population traditional and conservative and huhwhwite.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492238606 121193289,121197935,2017-04-15 06:46:50,">>121197622 Yeah, and I made a non-ginger version of rand, I don't know what I was thinking when i colored that. anyway you're a cool goy yourself, if you were in my neck of the woods I'd form a radical insurrectionist movement with you no doubt.",,Anonymous,rand.png,mLspYbkGPBxHIgvq2zyJ4w==,US,,1492238810 121193289,121198028,2017-04-15 06:48:13,>>121193289,,Anonymous,IMG_4018.jpg,Byy9L0nKfSanT7JV4wG6iQ==,GB,,1492238893 121193289,121198227,2017-04-15 06:51:11,,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,US,,1492239071 121193289,121198260,2017-04-15 06:51:38,,,Anonymous,Full.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1492239098 121193289,121198283,2017-04-15 06:52:00,,,Anonymous,5adccb786f39897ddb174c976c39e077181ab23f_hq.jpg,/GYWLg1Jvrp6G7VT1Ecvug==,GB,,1492239120 121193289,121198309,2017-04-15 06:52:18,">>121198028 Nige is /ourgoy/. Separation is crucial to coexistence. >>121197935 Me too, lad. Me too. With the far right taking over Slovakia as we speak, we're soon gonna be free from the ZOG - I just hope it won't be the skinheads.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492239138 121193289,121198377,2017-04-15 06:53:25,">>121198260 I tip my fedora to you, sir.",,Anonymous,autistic screeching marx.jpg,r+R1HDIdRAW8ZuoTy8O4sw==,SK,,1492239205 121193289,121199212,2017-04-15 07:05:38,">>121198377 >>121198309 Right on and good luck, may the power of removal be with you.",,Anonymous,The_Humane_thing_to_do.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1492239938 121193289,121199735,2017-04-15 07:13:10,">>121197355 You can't say the same about the other groups? >>121197447 >in my eyes >I think >not my pals >They can stay if >>121197562 >Communists have been historically >Most of them These are all just judgements. No principles here. How do you justify your right to physically move non-violent individuals against their consent? The average metropolitan student for example will believe in a few Marxist doctrines. Am I allowed to throw them in a plane and fly them to a different country? >neighbouring commie covenants gotta be torched as well Covenants as in voluntary collectives? They're not harming anybody then. What gives us the right to harm them?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492240390 121193289,121201182,2017-04-15 07:33:00,">>121199735 I justify dealing with communists because their definition of freedom is centered on the violent destruction of my property. They have a historical record of not keeping to themselves and I don't trust them to respect my individual liberty. I don't try to reconcile this with the non aggression principle. It is what must be done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492241580 121193289,121201523,2017-04-15 07:38:03,">>121199735 You're allowed to put pressure on their private insurance company for sheltering commies and if they want good PR, they'll suspend their contract and the commie better move out quickly.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492241883 121193289,121201960,2017-04-15 07:43:33,"attention all califags berkley is happening today >>121200812",,Anonymous,berkley.png,7grlI11xfmEQ21ZjlBBT/A==,CA,,1492242213 121193289,121202046,2017-04-15 07:44:49,">>121197622 Ayn rand is a kike piece of shit and only hurts our movement. Her ideology is retarded.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492242289 121193289,121202231,2017-04-15 07:47:05,">>121202046 How so leaf?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492242425 121193289,121202417,2017-04-15 07:49:40,">>121201182 >I don't try to reconcile this with the non aggression principle So you don't believe in non-aggression? Then how can you justify physical removal with the fact that communists believe in the violent destruction of property? How is communism even wrong then?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492242580 121193289,121202461,2017-04-15 07:50:08,">>121202231 Are you legit retarded? First of she hated libertarians. Secondly if people associate her with us then everyone will hate us. Her philosophy was fucking retarded anyway.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492242608 121193289,121202515,2017-04-15 07:50:52,,,Anonymous,1460831376174.jpg,OSEleJHczSABGb0TecBI6A==,GB,,1492242652 121193289,121202851,2017-04-15 07:55:41,">govt troops and DEA spend billions and can't even make a dent in the drug business >private right-wing militia takes care of the problem in a couple of weeks really makes one think",,Anonymous,Narcos autodefensas.png,mUHr6QQTXvjHrkOn/4pEHw==,PT,,1492242941 121193289,121203280,2017-04-15 08:01:53,Gary Johnson thinks the government has the right to issue driver licenses. OP is delusional if he thinks Gary Johnson vaguely understands human rights.,,Anonymous,1380230815500.jpg,5ljuDk5cMLASXvoRYUX9bg==,US,,1492243313 121193289,121203402,2017-04-15 08:03:50,Donald Trump. Explain him.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492243430 121193289,121203545,2017-04-15 08:05:49,">>121202461 She's autistic what do you expect? Btw I hate ""libertarians"" too. >>121202417 I do believe in non-aggression. But as long as people are ideologically driven to commit violent acts against myself and my property I don't see a pragmatic reason to let them spread their influence. Upholding the NAP serves only to virtue signal in this case and would likey result in my destruction.",,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1492243549 121193289,121203570,2017-04-15 08:06:10,">>121203402 Meh.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492243570 121193289,121203654,2017-04-15 08:07:23,">>121203280 Gary Johnson is a stupid faggot. No one in this thread has any respect for Aleppo ""bake the cake"" Johnson",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492243643 121193289,121204236,2017-04-15 08:15:01,">>121203654 Exactly. I ran over 15 people yesterday and now the Goobermant thinks I'm unfit to drive. 98% of libertarians are such idiots. We Somalians are the ones who know how to govern! Navy Seal boats are fake news.",,Anonymous,1427481977934.jpg,i1MBTTOOv8ILU7/3zzoLLw==,US,,1492244101 121193289,121204526,2017-04-15 08:18:44,">>121204236 >15 killed Enjoy a drone strike on your house from their insurers.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492244324 121193289,121204582,2017-04-15 08:19:30,">>121202851 >The militia had its roots in the 1980s when militias were established by drug lords to combat rebel kidnappings and extortion.[2] In April 1997 the AUC was formed through a merger, orchestrated by the ACCU, of local right-wing militias,[1] each intending to protect different local economic, social and political interests by fighting left-wing insurgents in their areas.[3] >The AUC had about 20,000 members and was heavily financed through the drug trade[3] and through support from local landowners, cattle ranchers, mining or petroleum companies and politicians.[6]",,Anonymous,Pepe lines.jpg,MOWVDD5qyH1rKqi+vt934Q==,SI,,1492244370 121193289,121205169,2017-04-15 08:27:12,">>121203545 >ideologically driven to commit violent acts against myself and my property So you believe in the NAP but you don't believe in upholding it? Aren't you just admitting that you should also be removed because you are ideologically driven to commit violent acts? Clearly contradictory. Everyone in this thread who believes in non-aggression and physical removal at the same time is a minarchist. That is, legitimising and perpetuating aggression.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492244832 121193289,121205410,2017-04-15 08:30:18,">>121205169 >commiting violent acts against those who'd commit violent acts against me Nothing wrong with it. If they don't have violent tendencies, they are not fit for the helicopter, but I don't want them around.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492245018 121193289,121205825,2017-04-15 08:35:11,">>121205410 But how do you decide whether or not someone will attack you in the future? ""Violent tendencies"" is just a vague term that lets you decide who is allowed to have rights and who isn't. Why can't we just use voluntary behaviour to remove communists from the social order?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492245311 121193289,121205859,2017-04-15 08:35:42,">>121194070 Roman fascism on the other hand has small taxes and no welfare, the perfect /pol/ ideology.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492245342 121193289,121206208,2017-04-15 08:39:55,Unironically asking if there's any other Satanfags or even any Objectivists in here? Sometimes feels like I'm the only one.,,Anonymous,paul-ryan-satanist.jpg,aJzUCPnsKYYrtyMn8z0qmQ==,AU,,1492245595 121193289,121206294,2017-04-15 08:41:11,">>121205169 Like I said I don't try to reconcile my position with the non aggression principle. I get it, I'm a bad goy. But I will not tolerate violent commies I will eliminate them before they eliminate me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492245671 121193289,121206329,2017-04-15 08:41:41,">>121205825 It's easy enough to tell. Do they actively call for communism and use commie symbols? Helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492245701 121193289,121206451,2017-04-15 08:43:00,">>121206329 Slovakia gets it. There can be no tolerance towards communists in a libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492245780 121193289,121206594,2017-04-15 08:44:57,">>121206294 >I get it, I'm a bad goy. No, you're just inconsistent and violent like a communist. >>121206329 What about socialists, neo-conservatives, democrats, republicans and other statists? Can I throw them out of helicopters?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492245897 121193289,121206702,2017-04-15 08:46:20,">>121206208 good, pls die",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492245980 121193289,121206759,2017-04-15 08:47:01,">>121204582 drug laws are pure nanny state authoritarianism",,Anonymous,lrg.png,eQ7vrZy/VjyYna1Lyvh4Jw==,PT,,1492246021 121193289,121206915,2017-04-15 08:49:03,">>121206594 >Can I throw them out of helicopters? Sounds good, bro!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492246143 121193289,121207039,2017-04-15 08:50:43,">>121206702 I love you too, princess",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492246243 121193289,121207476,2017-04-15 08:56:17,">>121206594 Yeah, I know. I'm a bad goy for not being tolerant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492246577 121193289,121207609,2017-04-15 08:57:47,">>121196415 >>121197050 >>121197447 >>121197562 Can you succinctly explain how a right-wing libertarian would govern? Also, provide this answer in the context of increasing automation in every field. China didn't steal factory jobs. Robots did. Robots are going to replace hundreds of millions of jobs in every sector of the economy in the next 10 years. Billions in the next 30 years. There will be fewer skilled jobs available to skilled workers than there are skilled workers. The world only needs so many fashion designers, programmers, musicians, non-utilitarian architects, artists, directors, and whatever else humanity is supposed to do. The population will have reached over 12 billion in 40 years. How does libertarianism address these issues?",,Anonymous,1449986312242.jpg,mANzx0UQbMpw/GO/2+pHTw==,US,,1492246667 121193289,121207868,2017-04-15 09:00:57,">>121206915 >>121207476 0 principles found. I love Hoppe and hate communism by the way. I want communists to be as far removed from society as you do, but I don't believe anyone has the right to simply kidnap innocent people who believe in dangerous things.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492246857 121193289,121208234,2017-04-15 09:05:22,">>121206594 Do they want me dead? If so, I'll take the fight to them. If not, why bother?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492247122 121193289,121208340,2017-04-15 09:06:49,">>121207868 You don't think communists are a threat that's fine. I however believe ""man will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492247209 121193289,121208373,2017-04-15 09:07:12,">>121207609 >12 billion Not when we cut aid to Africa and shoot all niggers when they try to cross the border, kek. Ideally, government would be replaced by covenants under protection of private mercenary companies competing for market share. Robots call for maintenance and upgrading, and they can't do everything.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492247232 121193289,121209437,2017-04-15 09:19:31,,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1492247971 121193289,121210076,2017-04-15 09:27:05,">>121193289 You guys are misguided and only half right We call ourselves the ""party of principle,"" and we base property rights on the principle that everyone is entitled to the fruits of his labor. Land, however, is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and our system of land tenure is based not on labor, but on decrees of privilege issued from the state, called titles. In fact, the term ""real estate"" is Middle English (originally French) for ""royal state."" The ""title"" to land is the essence of the title of nobility, and the root of noble privilege. The royal free lunch When the state granted land titles to a fraction of the population, it gave that fraction devices with which to levy, and pocket, tolls on the fruits of the labor of others. Those without land privileges must either buy or rent those privileges from the people who received the grants or from their assignees. Thus the state titles enable large landowners to collect a transfer payment, or ""free lunch"" from the actual land users. The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. --Carlyle",,Anonymous,emmememe.jpg,ii2fbCLmnFokum3pcpYiXg==,US,,1492248425 121193289,121210261,2017-04-15 09:29:23,">>121210076 Maybe some of you understand? Tortured rationalizations According to royal libertarians, land becomes private property when one mixes one's labor with it. And mixing what is yours with what is not yours in order to own the whole thing is considered great sport. But the notion is filled with problems. How much labor does it take to claim land, and how much land can one claim for that labor? And for how long can one make that claim? According to classical liberals, land belonged to the user for as long as the land was being used, and no longer. But according to royal libertarians, land belongs to the first user, forever. So, do the oceans belong to the heirs of the first person to take a fish out or put a boat in? Does someone who plows the same field each year own only one field, while someone who plows a different field each year owns dozens of fields? Should the builder of the first transcontinental railroad own the continent? Shouldn't we at least have to pay a toll to cross the tracks? Are there no common rights to the earth at all? To royal libertarians there are not, but classical liberals recognized that unlimited ownership of land never flowed from use, but from the state: A right of property in movable things is admitted before the establishment of government. A separate property in lands not till after that establishment.... He who plants a field keeps possession of it till he has gathered the produce, after which one has as good a right as another to occupy it. Government must be established and laws provided, before lands can be separately appropriated and their owner protected in his possession. Till then the property is in the body of the nation. --Thomas Jefferson",,Anonymous,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,US,,1492248563 121193289,121210485,2017-04-15 09:32:11,">>121193289 Why am i not being physically removed? Phony Laissez Faire AFTER conquest and confiscation have been effected, and the State set up, its first concern is with the land.... In its capacity as ultimate landlord, the State distributes the land among its beneficiaries on its own terms. --Albert J. Nock, Our Enemy the State The English free-trader Cobden remarked that ""you who free the land will do more for the people than we who have freed trade."" Indeed, how can anyone speak of free trade when the trader has to pay tribute to some favored land-entitlement holder in order to do business? This imperfect policy of non-intervention, or laissez-faire, led straight to a most hideous and dreadful economic exploitation; starvation wages, slum dwelling, killing hours, pauperism, coffin-ships, child-labour--nothing like it had ever been seen in modern times...People began to say, if this is what State abstention comes to, let us have some State intervention. But the state had intervened; that was the whole trouble. The State had established one monopoly--the landlord's monopoly of economic rent--thereby shutting off great hordes of people from free access to the only source of human subsistence, and driving them into factories to work for whatever Mr. Gradgrind and Mr. Bottles chose to give them. The land of England, while by no means nearly all actually occupied, was all legally occupied; and this State-created monopoly enabled landlords to satisfy their needs and desires with little exertion or none, but it also removed the land from competition with industry in the labor market, thus creating a huge, constant and exigent labour-surplus. [Emphasis Nock's] --Albert J. Nock, ""The Gods' Lookout"" February 1934",,Anonymous,AnarchismTree09.gif,7QPD8RGPI7DZoPFc+kgttQ==,US,,1492248731 121193289,121210634,2017-04-15 09:34:01,">>121210076 It's been a long time since I've seen you. Still you're wrong. Private law is better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492248841 121193289,121210798,2017-04-15 09:36:04,">>121193289 Hey, I have a question If we lived in a libertarian society, what if a child is brought up with a pretty shitty mother and father and gets a shit start at life, they will have to go to a bad school due to the abolishment of state schools and might be unable to get healthcare due to the prices. Whats your solution to that?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492248964 121193289,121210845,2017-04-15 09:36:49,">>121210634 been too busy IRL to shit post in your hunger games libertarian edition threads. Ironically ive been helping a family member set up some rental properties xD",,Anonymous,k41V9sG.jpg,ZyhaoL9vTAUfTbHmXq59+A==,US,,1492249009 121193289,121211026,2017-04-15 09:39:24,">>121210076 >tolls on the fruits of the labor of others you took a wrong turn. magical time travel math does not exist, and like all others that try to pull it, you are not applying it consistently",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492249164 121193289,121211457,2017-04-15 09:44:32,">>121211026 no i didnt ""But we're used to it"" A favorite excuse of royal libertarians is that the land has been divided up for so long that tracing the rightful owners would be pointless. But there can be no rightful owners if we all have an inalienable right of access to the earth. It is not some ancient injustice we seek to rectify, but an ongoing injustice. The piece of paper granting title might be ancient, but the tribute levied on the landless goes on and on. One might as well have accepted monarchy under the excuse that whatever conquest led to monarchy occurred centuries ago, and that tracing the rightful monarchs would be pointless. Indeed, landed aristocracy is the last remnant of monarchy.",,Anonymous,thepoint.jpg,qBBdPkNRERua0Q7/i5Zdhw==,US,,1492249472 121193289,121211818,2017-04-15 09:49:18,">>121199735 Sorry bud, communists and democrats have lost their rights because they keep thinking they can get away with violence. They will be physically removed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492249758 121193289,121211855,2017-04-15 09:49:48,">>121210798 Probably orphanage/charity, this isn't really a problem exclusive to libertarianism. the solutions we use now are valid under a libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492249788 121193289,121212180,2017-04-15 09:53:55,Reminder that this is the full scope of property and the NAP is incomplete because it only accounts for the three highlighted statements,,Anonymous,wBPBlln0aZRIP2cOfrHzSpgPmHZAIGJ8BwYpda89IBU.jpg,V6OGLeJ3WICN0UzLar1q3g==,IE,,1492250035 121193289,121212519,2017-04-15 09:57:41,">lolberdarian anti state ancaps idolize Pinochet >who had people killed for being out after a state imposed curfew >also formed a cult around Hoppe >a pseudo intellectual who has never ""physically removed"" anyone in his fucking life or done anything of significance",,Anonymous,1491437781293.jpg,4Tusc5JKYvXxlA63sTlJKw==,US,,1492250261 121193289,121212656,2017-04-15 09:59:33,">>121208373 >government would be replaced by covenants under protection of private mercenary companies competing for market share Autonomous drones protect the boarder from any intruders. The dominate mercenary groups long ago abandoned humans as combat units. Machines surpassed humanity in reaction speed years before their use became widespread as weapons. Robot introduction to warfare acceleration their adoption. Human combatants are virtually unheard of. It's now considered a method of illegal population reduction by the UN. >Robots call for maintenance and upgrading, and they can't do everything. Mobile robots have docking stations that automatically repair, recycle, or replace them. Every common service can now be accomplished by a machine. The need for line chefs, fast food employees, retail workers, factory jobs, hospitality workers, and every other conceivable job for the unskilled has been eliminated. Many Jobs previously reserved for the educated have also been eliminated. Programs could already shifted through legal documents faster than lawyers in the early 21st century. Clerical jobs like this were eliminated decades before the 2050s. This skilled job elimination process accelerated to the point where the sheer number of people alive in the 19th century already vastly exceeded the number of skilled workers necessary in the mid 21st century. There is no longer enough work for everyone alive. How does libertarianism solve this crisis?",,Anonymous,1396233733866.jpg,PcmpID7SzlkA8w/n8cP2Sg==,US,,1492250373 121193289,121213358,2017-04-15 10:08:09,Do we have any ancap discords?,,Anonymous,,,NO,,1492250889 121193289,121213394,2017-04-15 10:08:39,">>121212519 >people killed because I'm sure nobody would have been killed if communists had been allowed to take power",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1492250919 121193289,121213423,2017-04-15 10:09:03,">>121212656 I own all of the robots, crisis adverted. But seriously automation will end some trades, but will create new ones. Who will build the machines that build the machines that build the machines that build the machines that build the machines? People will until people build machines to build those machines. Technology is not a threat to capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492250943 121194283,121194283,2017-04-15 05:53:13,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - 1433 EDITION,Anonymous,chriscantwell.jpg,5u8Y+9COhp282tjuyJWfKA==,GB,,1492235593 121194283,121194312,2017-04-15 05:53:30,,,Anonymous,oitz01cipv1w1wvkio1_500.png,NZ8mLdlWpzvfpL8rB5eppA==,GB,,1492235610 121194283,121194357,2017-04-15 05:54:00,,,Anonymous,1492105964485.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,GB,,1492235640 121194283,121194393,2017-04-15 05:54:32,,,Anonymous,1492105684148.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,GB,,1492235672 121194283,121194418,2017-04-15 05:54:50,,,Anonymous,1492105751075.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,GB,,1492235690 121194283,121195834,2017-04-15 06:14:31,">>121193289 Hey dude I don't mean to be a dick but we got a thread already.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492236871 121194283,121195972,2017-04-15 06:16:30,">>121195834 ah shit didn't see that sorry use this one when that one hits 300",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492236990 121194283,121196545,2017-04-15 06:25:14,">>121194283 who is alibaba in your picture? What province of afghanistan is this mujahideen is hailing himself from?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1492237514 121194283,121196630,2017-04-15 06:26:34,Keeping it bumped.,,Anonymous,hoppeart.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,SK,,1492237594 121367496,121367496,2017-04-16 11:08:32,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: ANTICOM PMCs EDITION,Anonymous,1492249494273.jpg,M2hLhL9E+3ZbdFdsHa80nA==,GB,,1492340912 121367496,121367581,2017-04-16 11:09:08,,,Anonymous,1492105964485.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,GB,,1492340948 121367496,121367656,2017-04-16 11:09:53,,,Anonymous,1492105684148.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,GB,,1492340993 121367496,121367704,2017-04-16 11:10:21,,,Anonymous,1492105751075.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,GB,,1492341021 121367496,121368371,2017-04-16 11:16:48,">>121367496 Ayyyy",,Anonymous,IMG_2928.jpg,yJnhVfZu0GUuSuf8nSnTEg==,US,,1492341408 121367496,121368576,2017-04-16 11:18:51,comfiest thread,,Anonymous,removal_time.jpg,mnMRumgZfx4fF+79oZV0Fw==,BR,,1492341531 121367496,121369560,2017-04-16 11:27:44,bump,,Anonymous,bf1ff2c2e3110cc2d168497647325611be12cbd5b84f0c6e7432532fb8119d5c.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1492342064 121367496,121369847,2017-04-16 11:30:19,Sup guys. What do you think of the Turkey referendum? Hoppe is about to be proven right that democracy leads to dictatorship. Looks like the Hopper is back to the States soon.,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1492342219 121367496,121370503,2017-04-16 11:35:52,">>121369847 Oh golly, how could anyone predict that democracy leads to dictatorship, so out of the blue! It hurts for the austrian school to be proven right everytime portubro, it hurts.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492342552 121367496,121371066,2017-04-16 11:40:29,">>121370503 >It hurts for the austrian school to be proven right everytime portubro, it hurts. No matter how hard (((they))) try, reality always has an Austrian bias. Yet we're all crazies because... we are. Yeah, sure.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492342829 121367496,121371199,2017-04-16 11:41:35,">Memebertarians Your party has been hijacked by communists and there's nothing you can do about it because MUH NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492342895 121367496,121371544,2017-04-16 11:44:30,">>121371199 You are correct, the libertarian party has been hijacked by lefties. And you know the NAP is a meme, right? We belive in property rights.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492343070 121367496,121371710,2017-04-16 11:45:51,">>121371199 >thinking that party has anything to do with the libertarian right",,Anonymous,oitz01cipv1w1wvkio1_500.png,NZ8mLdlWpzvfpL8rB5eppA==,GB,,1492343151 121367496,121371881,2017-04-16 11:47:25,">>121371710 >>121371544 The libertarian party is a practical example why libertarianism gets hijacked by authoritarian leftists. There is NO inherent defense against leftist subversion and that's why libertarianism is a meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492343245 121367496,121372091,2017-04-16 11:49:12,Wassap my dudes,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1492343352 121367496,121372453,2017-04-16 11:52:06,">>121371881 Real libertarians run as Republicans.",,Anonymous,ron_paul_rifle.png,kVZ3g/KYLdtNYGtV29bL0g==,US,,1492343526 121367496,121372472,2017-04-16 11:52:18,">>121371881 See pic related to understand what happened. I think if real libertarianism is to have a future, parties must explicitly state they're right-wing and culturally conservative; and say ""Yes, do we support the legalization of X; but keep in mind that no taxpayer will be forced to accommodate you or support your lifestyle."" What was the name of that law? That movements which are not explicitly right wing get subverted over time?",,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1492343538 121367496,121373707,2017-04-16 12:01:53,">>121372472 >movements which are not explicitly right wing get subverted over time. Yeah, that's it. Newfags must assimilate, tolerance of progressive fag types is a death sentence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492344113 121367496,121376044,2017-04-16 12:20:48,"/lrg/core listening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnGk7QT0Yl8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSJk58Erfk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDcLHa2L1o",,Anonymous,1492105591901.png,FLQZpZL/imjJJIRfu8BWEw==,GB,,1492345248 121367496,121376142,2017-04-16 12:21:27,">>121376044 nice tracks",,Anonymous,lrg banner.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,PT,,1492345287 121367496,121377099,2017-04-16 12:28:40,">>121376044 Haven't listened to Metallica in a long time, fine selection.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492345720 121367496,121377561,2017-04-16 12:32:19,">>121376044 Never heard that Metallica track before, pretty neat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492345939 121367496,121378985,2017-04-16 12:42:53,">>121367496 >http://www.libertarianright.org >libertarian right It's a truly sad world where you cannot just say ""libertarian"" any more",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1492346573 121367496,121379166,2017-04-16 12:44:13,">>121367496 Physical removal So to speak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492346653 121367496,121379702,2017-04-16 12:47:58,">>121378985 it's what is necessary to distance ourselves from subversives Anyone else a fan of Chris Cantwell's Radical Agenda here?",,Anonymous,chriscantwell.jpg,5u8Y+9COhp282tjuyJWfKA==,GB,,1492346878 121367496,121380334,2017-04-16 12:52:41,">>121379702 Yeah i like Cantwell",,Anonymous,1488817818760_0.png,6cJYg646kls/wd/ZgvuFHQ==,US,,1492347161 121367496,121381679,2017-04-16 13:02:13,">>121379702 I'm surprised surprised Cantwell isn't more popular here, he's a perfect ambassador for /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492347733 121367496,121382090,2017-04-16 13:05:02,alt-center reporting in,,Anonymous,RADICAL CENTER.jpg,bLJm2e3Ql9qm2c3xS0raAg==,US,,1492347902 121367496,121382414,2017-04-16 13:07:09,">>121382090 damn Bill looks super comfy in that picture",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492348029 121367496,121382508,2017-04-16 13:07:46,">>121380334 >>121381679 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJN-lWOcuSI absolute madman I wanna see him go on JRE at some point",,Anonymous,cantshootgunswell.jpg,/PxQyEQ4AFTLVr6L/4W2eA==,GB,,1492348066 121367496,121383194,2017-04-16 13:12:38,,,Anonymous,IMG_0279.png,/dKz8ppV+UuBesfhVINRIg==,US,,1492348358 121367496,121383283,2017-04-16 13:13:16,">>121382090 If I was Clarissa's neighbor in that show I would have beat the breaks off of her.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492348396 121367496,121383739,2017-04-16 13:16:41,">>121382508 Lol I think Joe might be too much of a pussy to have Chris on his show. But I'd still like to see it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492348601 121367496,121384876,2017-04-16 13:24:52,">>121382090 >alt-center what did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,mestefan.jpg,BJvxQP1Qy4IQP9wHiCXpkA==,GB,,1492349092 121367496,121387002,2017-04-16 13:40:07,">>121382090 >tfw too intelligent to have a position",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492350007 121367496,121387884,2017-04-16 13:46:49,is it really okay to kill commies? is their mere existence a violation my NAP?,,Anonymous,giphy.gif,x+piYjLOzmRQbLK5A7JYRQ==,US,,1492350409 121367496,121388205,2017-04-16 13:49:30,">>121384876 >alt Likes edgy memes >center Is an unthinking conformist",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1492350570 121367496,121388511,2017-04-16 13:51:53,"This would be more fun as a snek thread, so ill snek it up",,Anonymous,1487014458754.jpg,JLyv7QNmOgWrG5i9slZlTw==,US,,1492350713 121367496,121388542,2017-04-16 13:52:09,,,Anonymous,1487015657588.jpg,8HrPFAGAiSxAYhjM1M6pmg==,US,,1492350729 121367496,121388573,2017-04-16 13:52:25,,,Anonymous,1487015696629.jpg,FOoro3CmmpOWf2bmrqmSpg==,US,,1492350745 121367496,121388609,2017-04-16 13:52:40,,,Anonymous,1487015776472.png,uUjMwevt0Fdg4//NwQpY2w==,US,,1492350760 121367496,121388642,2017-04-16 13:52:56,,,Anonymous,1487015809624.jpg,h1e+UBNs2R1YINWdOxqVAg==,US,,1492350776 121367496,121388679,2017-04-16 13:53:11,,,Anonymous,1487015874825.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,US,,1492350791 121367496,121388680,2017-04-16 13:53:11,">>121387884 >You can't kick me out of YOUR property maaaan I have squatter's rights. That's it. Me and my friends are gonna occupy your covenant in protest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492350791 121367496,121388719,2017-04-16 13:53:27,,,Anonymous,1487015907485.gif,fGrwVTp0wgkT8iPDSVkCVQ==,US,,1492350807 121367496,121388749,2017-04-16 13:53:43,,,Anonymous,1487016158082.png,MS5vJqXLEEewneoLj/nPNQ==,US,,1492350823 121367496,121388783,2017-04-16 13:53:58,,,Anonymous,1487016185184.jpg,1s+Wbf0LOH6xkRUsLU8RjQ==,US,,1492350838 121367496,121388826,2017-04-16 13:54:14,,,Anonymous,1487016248708.jpg,glhCyltviRwXX891LdGbkw==,US,,1492350854 121367496,121388861,2017-04-16 13:54:29,,,Anonymous,1487016275868.jpg,bBMDc2xBWoZpFOV1XsNI6Q==,US,,1492350869 121367496,121388901,2017-04-16 13:54:44,,,Anonymous,1487016327167.jpg,71/yJ74HBA9n0kRqway2ww==,US,,1492350884 121367496,121388940,2017-04-16 13:55:00,,,Anonymous,1487016658262.png,DvoV9/FztdxLjL3NFG0npA==,US,,1492350900 121367496,121388968,2017-04-16 13:55:15,,,Anonymous,1487016687921.png,riDXuiW7MKog8Audno6KZQ==,US,,1492350915 121367496,121388979,2017-04-16 13:55:21,">>121379702 1433",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492350921 121367496,121389000,2017-04-16 13:55:31,,,Anonymous,1487017091710.png,LkIgtmc3nxJA+v8zPgJT8g==,US,,1492350931 121367496,121389020,2017-04-16 13:55:46,,,Anonymous,1487017272271.jpg,1s3FPAifERSdVjv6vJXCLA==,US,,1492350946 121367496,121389052,2017-04-16 13:56:02,,,Anonymous,1487017304130.jpg,G7XbNjOiYou4aXyVqXzMSg==,US,,1492350962 121367496,121389085,2017-04-16 13:56:18,,,Anonymous,1487017568386.png,GUBaE9K7mo/gn+aZReUi5Q==,US,,1492350978 121367496,121389119,2017-04-16 13:56:33,,,Anonymous,1487017640693.jpg,Xs3r54I/Oe0iyLKoScuQUg==,US,,1492350993 121367496,121389147,2017-04-16 13:56:48,">>121367496 unofficial discord: https://discord.gg/ShrnK",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492351008 121367496,121389149,2017-04-16 13:56:49,,,Anonymous,1487017693497.png,jk9Es8FZOQUE3rHp37F9aw==,US,,1492351009 121367496,121389150,2017-04-16 13:56:50,stop posting shitty yellow memes,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492351010 121367496,121389177,2017-04-16 13:57:05,,,Anonymous,1487018102545.jpg,20GpeQ10u/Lcrndt4uyVbA==,US,,1492351025 121367496,121389203,2017-04-16 13:57:20,">>121389150 you stop",,Anonymous,1487018433587.png,1UKiAYWVuC6rJ6UOqXDDYw==,US,,1492351040 121367496,121389235,2017-04-16 13:57:36,,,Anonymous,1487018478985.jpg,fx08MaV1zKckdJJ7NqAVrw==,US,,1492351056 121367496,121389258,2017-04-16 13:57:51,,,Anonymous,1487018656856.jpg,Juz9CHi8RuzqPDvxSySl2w==,US,,1492351071 121367496,121389295,2017-04-16 13:58:07,,,Anonymous,1487018769946.jpg,8FweKeUvkJNg/YE/ugJ4CQ==,US,,1492351087 121367496,121389327,2017-04-16 13:58:23,,,Anonymous,1487018795300.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1492351103 121367496,121389364,2017-04-16 13:58:39,,,Anonymous,1487018897082.jpg,+qgINobbjHDYNY4F8uwL5g==,US,,1492351119 121367496,121389442,2017-04-16 13:59:13,,,Anonymous,1487019173725.png,jcuFgF/UVjHAEH1iRwPKuw==,US,,1492351153 121367496,121389480,2017-04-16 13:59:29,,,Anonymous,1487019464728.png,QxWSZyqeLLsJVWOb0eVLeA==,US,,1492351169 121367496,121389517,2017-04-16 13:59:45,,,Anonymous,1487019509919.jpg,LAuN/K4j9tQ6miPnjgNaQQ==,US,,1492351185 121367496,121389554,2017-04-16 14:00:00,,,Anonymous,1487019534320.png,O/xKMG4HYHc6YK5SLJjTsw==,US,,1492351200 121367496,121389586,2017-04-16 14:00:16,,,Anonymous,1487019825141.jpg,DiCa9kboccEa7iTIneP2wQ==,US,,1492351216 121367496,121389622,2017-04-16 14:00:31,,,Anonymous,1487019846515.jpg,dV6ecIzTdX1KuzPHr1iH8Q==,US,,1492351231 121367496,121389656,2017-04-16 14:00:47,,,Anonymous,1487019892402.jpg,YbRq+gV3Zac2eSmXE+mJdw==,US,,1492351247 121367496,121389686,2017-04-16 14:01:03,,,Anonymous,1487019914057.jpg,2Ta02N4faWGlyBiTwsUYSQ==,US,,1492351263 121367496,121389718,2017-04-16 14:01:18,,,Anonymous,1487019970422.jpg,XQmOukKD3KGlMvAEpKpyXQ==,US,,1492351278 121367496,121389749,2017-04-16 14:01:34,,,Anonymous,1487020477736.jpg,7XX4APC+ikI8eBpvqaXfGA==,US,,1492351294 121367496,121389777,2017-04-16 14:01:49,,,Anonymous,1487020808881.png,JqJ7s3j3E1WaPO5qn/PT6A==,US,,1492351309 121367496,121389804,2017-04-16 14:02:05,,,Anonymous,1487020863265.jpg,cdjc/1LeHE2roI6BwflE6w==,US,,1492351325 121367496,121389839,2017-04-16 14:02:21,,,Anonymous,1487020887266.jpg,WMZWAWU8iE5W/zOjAFQRHw==,US,,1492351341 121367496,121389876,2017-04-16 14:02:37,,,Anonymous,1487020918278.jpg,QwNiAXlZp/38/+m924eabw==,US,,1492351357 121367496,121389902,2017-04-16 14:02:52,,,Anonymous,1487020967418.png,7pxzBOPQMBcE7IN8NsL3ZQ==,US,,1492351372 121367496,121389934,2017-04-16 14:03:08,,,Anonymous,1487021256416.jpg,VLBTg4z1+mC8clY7uHpG2g==,US,,1492351388 121367496,121389961,2017-04-16 14:03:20,Rocknroll ancap reporting in,,Anonymous,IMG_0817.jpg,cH9LjSWYJ6ZfJatjLIlX/g==,US,,1492351400 121367496,121389963,2017-04-16 14:03:23,,,Anonymous,1487021332377.jpg,OLc7sDKDqUOPXAg2qDYs7w==,US,,1492351403 121367496,121390001,2017-04-16 14:03:39,,,Anonymous,1487021336768.jpg,3VL4IFW9piOCtSmq1Qveaw==,US,,1492351419 121367496,121390037,2017-04-16 14:03:55,,,Anonymous,1487021364727.jpg,evBV0zoEsjoZuya/Bhk7aA==,US,,1492351435 121367496,121390038,2017-04-16 14:03:55,">>121389961 >fender >vox my nigga.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492351435 121367496,121390066,2017-04-16 14:04:10,,,Anonymous,1487021386247.png,Y/V2kZAvtNEQS5ZiUgyqqg==,US,,1492351450 121367496,121390091,2017-04-16 14:04:26,,,Anonymous,1487021441738.jpg,VAB0Hf+YRfb5M+Xl/qz7Mw==,US,,1492351466 121367496,121390131,2017-04-16 14:04:42,">>121390038 post snek or gtfo",,Anonymous,1487021447365.png,KBiiaUxKGk8kulkG3NG6/w==,US,,1492351482 121367496,121390137,2017-04-16 14:04:46,">>121390066 Fucking topkek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492351486 121367496,121390164,2017-04-16 14:04:57,,,Anonymous,1487021520196.jpg,z2upkUl1+VJN04jme6bHow==,US,,1492351497 121367496,121390199,2017-04-16 14:05:12,,,Anonymous,1487021684499.jpg,7JRLG/Lu2i5I4KbxFjS1EA==,US,,1492351512 121367496,121390226,2017-04-16 14:05:28,,,Anonymous,1487021739416.png,3cHMajYua6hdXR21h+koEA==,US,,1492351528 121367496,121390260,2017-04-16 14:05:44,,,Anonymous,1487021755325.jpg,B/1uz9mjEMF1Ue+ySoRCjg==,US,,1492351544 121367496,121390294,2017-04-16 14:05:59,,,Anonymous,1487021832438.jpg,mJDQ39wYYe0YqOaYlrRVtA==,US,,1492351559 121367496,121390330,2017-04-16 14:06:15,,,Anonymous,1487022007210.png,uFlgpxGI6cpSa+oirM7Bjg==,US,,1492351575 121367496,121390351,2017-04-16 14:06:30,,,Anonymous,1487022048961.png,M2A8/iieTWpoAZyYyJB9lQ==,US,,1492351590 121367496,121390365,2017-04-16 14:06:35,Best denomination of Christianity for right libertarians? Right now I'm looking at the ANCA because it seems to have some of the better conservative views,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492351595 121367496,121390385,2017-04-16 14:06:46,,,Anonymous,1487022116193.jpg,DMfBC15l8XFQCXjd6L1XHQ==,US,,1492351606 121367496,121390419,2017-04-16 14:07:01,,,Anonymous,1487022117489.jpg,LeFH5VDS0oU9Z4/zENQbFQ==,US,,1492351621 121367496,121390457,2017-04-16 14:07:17,,,Anonymous,1487022139360.jpg,MGlNxZAm24WnU5BZ2xzfEA==,US,,1492351637 121367496,121390491,2017-04-16 14:07:32,,,Anonymous,1487022213958.jpg,53PpxVKwy6XVd661JaFSyQ==,US,,1492351652 121367496,121390522,2017-04-16 14:07:44,"Fuck your Austrian school kike Jewish Ayn rand sperglord meme tier ideology I'm glad it has no influence. Also, Aleppo is a city in Syria.",,Anonymous,1491516958043.jpg,6oCT5k3YR7dV/c1LDN/sPg==,IE,,1492351664 121367496,121390530,2017-04-16 14:07:48,,,Anonymous,1487022248981.jpg,H1S/Eu0HRzD4nmbH+fSpnw==,US,,1492351668 121367496,121390554,2017-04-16 14:08:03,,,Anonymous,1487022350890.jpg,8opitnohPy4fqz2jbY+kvA==,US,,1492351683 121367496,121390585,2017-04-16 14:08:19,,,Anonymous,1487022419589.jpg,uxzrQKoFa9QVaF8xnKI1UQ==,US,,1492351699 121367496,121390619,2017-04-16 14:08:34,,,Anonymous,1487022871743.png,zVd0jytTUvLPdsqKzyQHjg==,US,,1492351714 121367496,121390624,2017-04-16 14:08:36,">>121390038 Vox is my go-to. Fender jags ftw. Wanting to get a ""this machine kills commies"" sticker as well",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492351716 121367496,121390653,2017-04-16 14:08:50,,,Anonymous,1487023351020.jpg,cYx1RVHxTljN7bBlR8z2DA==,US,,1492351730 121367496,121390690,2017-04-16 14:09:05,,,Anonymous,1487023463672.jpg,RTzu76mLeBKQshHYLnGOSQ==,US,,1492351745 121367496,121390726,2017-04-16 14:09:21,,,Anonymous,1487023514099.png,tRzRr8Rua/StEvzEQj1bmw==,US,,1492351761 121367496,121390759,2017-04-16 14:09:37,">>121390624 you rebel",,Anonymous,1487024007812.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,US,,1492351777 121367496,121390793,2017-04-16 14:09:53,,,Anonymous,1487024156842.jpg,JkuNnNgTGOGUpZCi3hfCSA==,US,,1492351793 121367496,121390824,2017-04-16 14:10:08,,,Anonymous,1487024183010.jpg,VDDZ4ZpRYqvxfGxwLeVgrQ==,US,,1492351808 121367496,121390863,2017-04-16 14:10:24,,,Anonymous,1487024209600.jpg,Yiwshd3dZv0T0fo0O/kQrg==,US,,1492351824 121367496,121390893,2017-04-16 14:10:39,,,Anonymous,1487024242420.jpg,8xytOeHw05LxN4G0HKLW/g==,US,,1492351839 121367496,121390923,2017-04-16 14:10:55,,,Anonymous,1487024266867.jpg,EmExSbbstvUpo4Rkka9ocg==,US,,1492351855 121367496,121390950,2017-04-16 14:11:10,,,Anonymous,1487024459557.jpg,zL0Aqt0QW3S9rMCUaLdtuA==,US,,1492351870 121367496,121390978,2017-04-16 14:11:26,,,Anonymous,1487024478654.png,3EdSLnWlnuxSSnnG00dRCg==,US,,1492351886 121367496,121391006,2017-04-16 14:11:41,,,Anonymous,1488555403757.jpg,9xXSVTd6DakrivXu7zYyow==,US,,1492351901 121367496,121391092,2017-04-16 14:12:28,">>121390726 LOL SAVING THE FUCK OUT OF THIS, Robin Hood was my favorite movie as a kid and I know every line",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492351948 121367496,121391258,2017-04-16 14:13:35,">>121367496 Just made some OC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w",,Anonymous,Mcfire.png,Zq0uGjcgUHq153vCHzc7WA==,GB,,1492352015 121367496,121391287,2017-04-16 14:13:49,">>121391092 good for you, post snek or leave",,Anonymous,1488560950111.png,hJAo54xd/oAyE2vqz2EQVA==,US,,1492352029 121367496,121391320,2017-04-16 14:14:04,,,Anonymous,1488560967032.png,eDOSdsYeY6lHiDpv2FHfSw==,US,,1492352044 121367496,121391350,2017-04-16 14:14:20,,,Anonymous,1488561135504.png,Jbsl6yvOSJsj0R4JNIgLBw==,US,,1492352060 121367496,121391373,2017-04-16 14:14:36,"I posted a thread about this a moment ago but it would probably be better suited here. >Would paintball guns be able to be used against ANTIFA in a riot? >Would they make you prime targets for LEO? >We've seen that they bring airsoft guns to try and look hard. If they were to open fire in retaliation, using airsoft guns, what are the chances of allies losing eyes, for example? Tried to delete my OP but couldn't.",,Anonymous,Big Boss snapped.jpg,Ru0r+VY9cu9+PtnYfuPVRg==,US,,1492352076 121367496,121391376,2017-04-16 14:14:35,,,Anonymous,1488561227679.png,BzPTvZF/DpSDatRswh/ptA==,US,,1492352075 121367496,121391405,2017-04-16 14:14:50,,,Anonymous,1488561285467.png,M17D/kZSuxntjCn+OJjbcw==,US,,1492352090 121367496,121391430,2017-04-16 14:15:06,,,Anonymous,1488561340662.png,sp+mo83Ciw7edVdEsaCFHg==,US,,1492352106 121367496,121391444,2017-04-16 14:15:10,">>121391287 This is all I got",,Anonymous,IMG_0803.jpg,tTpo/9/VY75Dfm/TOn2/hQ==,US,,1492352110 121367496,121391454,2017-04-16 14:15:13,">>121369847 Refendum results show why democracy has failed",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492352113 121367496,121391480,2017-04-16 14:15:21,,,Anonymous,1488561428224.jpg,+gdqgf5KMmS/sxUXcx0KVA==,US,,1492352121 121367496,121391511,2017-04-16 14:15:37,,,Anonymous,1488561576851.png,ejQoGHhnh2WCuqCWVrLZQg==,US,,1492352137 121367496,121391540,2017-04-16 14:15:53,,,Anonymous,1488561624007.jpg,sz6Qu/GCNbjVPlEnk1dwqw==,US,,1492352153 121367496,121391575,2017-04-16 14:16:08,,,Anonymous,1488561635100.png,fav7kGGMXp3yKFovxbQLUQ==,US,,1492352168 121367496,121391606,2017-04-16 14:16:22,">>121367496 I can say this about you lads: At least you aren't ancaps.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492352182 121367496,121391611,2017-04-16 14:16:24,,,Anonymous,1488561907635.jpg,sgVQcXHIxvSXvQ5vHGUZpA==,US,,1492352184 121367496,121391655,2017-04-16 14:16:39,,,Anonymous,1488562471614.png,h9HJDcgN8h+UCb5F7SO3Zg==,US,,1492352199 121367496,121391693,2017-04-16 14:16:55,,,Anonymous,1488562567511.png,dJ8noXOTM81IivhJLo0cdQ==,US,,1492352215 121367496,121391721,2017-04-16 14:17:11,,,Anonymous,1488562611888.jpg,zLuAqDHsV9+RpgWxnUA/Sw==,US,,1492352231 121367496,121391760,2017-04-16 14:17:26,,,Anonymous,1488562670392.png,IY5AuepooSl53P1j1hXDgg==,US,,1492352246 121367496,121391772,2017-04-16 14:17:28,"4000 reds, a variation of scum, and they haven't got the bottle when its 40 to 1",,Anonymous,1492313152527.gif,VqShT9C+KmJ47sg4uMeQLg==,US,,1492352248 121367496,121391808,2017-04-16 14:17:41,,,Anonymous,1488562768320.png,kid8Yv6YQtMpCZjUocbWWQ==,US,,1492352261 121367496,121391834,2017-04-16 14:17:56,,,Anonymous,1488562937922.png,PS1ogPcbRkJM/UHEI5ImYg==,US,,1492352276 121367496,121391866,2017-04-16 14:18:12,,,Anonymous,1488563442921.jpg,ssVsjUnJQCYRnoRPct8mJg==,US,,1492352292 121367496,121391905,2017-04-16 14:18:27,,,Anonymous,1488563465474.png,DWMO7vhI3V3NV8aLnP4jQQ==,US,,1492352307 121367496,121391948,2017-04-16 14:18:43,,,Anonymous,autistic_snek.jpg,oWnqJFR15sxuHa5eFi8XfQ==,US,,1492352323 121367496,121392037,2017-04-16 14:19:25,"So what are the chances that antifaggots will try to infiltrate any anticom or identitarian movement? What do we do to oust any spies in our midst?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492352365 121367496,121392105,2017-04-16 14:20:06,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1487689923172.jpg,pYdhLb0UOMZ5cHNXddTKsg==,US,,1492352406 121367496,121392142,2017-04-16 14:20:19,"Wealth and Economic Freedom Empirical studies have continuously found that wealth and economic freedom go hand in hand (as strongly positively correlated). If socialists and ""progressives"" truly want to make the world a better place they should be advocates of economic freedom. Economic freedom consists of: 1. Rule of Law (property rights, freedom from corruption); 2. Limited Government (fiscal freedom, government spending); 3. Regulatory Efficiency (business freedom, labor freedom, monetary freedom) 4. Open Markets (trade freedom, investment freedom, financial freedom).",,Anonymous,economic freedom liberty prosperity libertarian.png,36oq7Nl5bOOtCuvrl3y/6A==,NL,,1492352419 121367496,121392187,2017-04-16 14:20:40,I'll just leave this hear,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170415-122229.png,lR/oYKr6yPfZ4namh4PC8A==,US,,1492352440 121367496,121392192,2017-04-16 14:20:44,">>121391905 Unless they have enough money to get someone to sell there property to them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492352444 121367496,121393552,2017-04-16 14:30:53,,,Anonymous,"COA_Cherkasy,_Cherkaska,_Ukraine.png",eIeOWvQQC96XfN7fouZFTw==,UA,,1492353053 121367496,121393583,2017-04-16 14:31:08,">>121391454 It's working as intended",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492353068 121367496,121394060,2017-04-16 14:34:36,">>121393552 That's a great coat of arms there, can we take your idea of blockading enemies so we use it against the commies as a form of ostracism against communists?",,Anonymous,donbas blockade.jpg,HYApzAopYUs+xbBP2WSfOw==,GB,,1492353276 121367496,121394162,2017-04-16 14:35:24,">>121371066 Checked and heiled",,Anonymous,1485801846701.jpg,wU4UjJrH7GOJCzj461m+GA==,CA,,1492353324 121367496,121394333,2017-04-16 14:36:36,">>121393552 Don't appropriate cherkes culture pls",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492353396 121367496,121394595,2017-04-16 14:38:40,">>121394060 Yes, of course >In your own house you have the force the truth and freedom",,Anonymous,vY-3ryzBYss.jpg,j4HNszsUe0lD2ov498ulvA==,UA,,1492353520 121367496,121394705,2017-04-16 14:39:19,">>121371199 >can't do anything against communists The NAP does not apply to them.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492353559 121367496,121394732,2017-04-16 14:39:28,">>121394333 Cherkasy is Ukrainian city",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1492353568 121367496,121394886,2017-04-16 14:40:37,">>121394732 oh, i see that now",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492353637 121367496,121395903,2017-04-16 14:48:44,">>121376044 Nice tracks, mate.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492354124 121367496,121396819,2017-04-16 14:55:44,">>121394705 This, communists have to fucking die if we are to ever be truely free.",,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1492354544 121367496,121397036,2017-04-16 14:57:18,">>121390522 >muh leppo Did we not make our disdain towards the Lolbergarian Party clear enough? Go to sleep, eunuch. The state commands it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492354638 121367496,121397120,2017-04-16 14:57:54,">its a ""fagist trying to label themselves as libertarians"" episode really made me think",,Anonymous,GettyImages-525373635.jpg,y5nr7wdktq4fLDTaY+GoSQ==,US,,1492354674 121367496,121397323,2017-04-16 14:59:31,If someone witnesses a murder in Ancapistan who does he go to report it to?,,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492354771 121367496,121397353,2017-04-16 14:59:48,">>121397120 We believe in our breed of liberty for those who believe in it and death/servitude for the others. Hail Victory.",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1492354788 121367496,121397386,2017-04-16 15:00:01,">>121390522 >I'm glad it has no influence. oh yes, like the completely relevant and not a farce at all meme of neo-nazism lol >inb4 you try to save face by labelling yourself something else than neo-nazi.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492354801 121367496,121397493,2017-04-16 15:00:46,">>121397323 He shoots the motherfucker dead, that's what he does.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492354846 121367496,121397603,2017-04-16 15:01:29,">>121397323 Private security company",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1492354889 121367496,121397611,2017-04-16 15:01:32,">>121397353 So in other words, youre a fascist using Libertarian iconography just like I said. I dont even understand your logic. Is this supposed to be some sort of subversive shill thing on your part?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492354892 121367496,121397629,2017-04-16 15:01:36,">>121397493 By what justification?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492354896 121367496,121397700,2017-04-16 15:02:14,">>121397386 Daily reminder that the alt-right is made up of BOTH Paleolibertarianism and National Socialism. Pretending otherwise is stupid and delusional. Ideologies have to evolve in order to survive, and these two are a good mix.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492354934 121367496,121397707,2017-04-16 15:02:19,">>121397120 I will weep for you when they are treading on you.",,Anonymous,hsm__101_.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1492354939 121367496,121397899,2017-04-16 15:03:47,">>121397611 I am not trying to subvert anyone. I joined the main goys behind this general in order to give a voice to the libertarians of /pol/ who feel betrayed by their mainstream politicians. And am I a fascist? Maybe. Who wants to know? As far as I'm concerned, fascists don't believe in freedom. I do.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492355027 121367496,121397931,2017-04-16 15:03:57,">>121397700 >Daily reminder that the alt-right is made up of BOTH Paleolibertarianism and National Socialism. bullshit and you know it. Its just neo-nazis trying to rebrand themselves. It served its purpose as a sort of truce between all sides on the right in order to get Trump elected, but after the election that all fell through just like I knew it would",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492355037 121367496,121397973,2017-04-16 15:04:16,">>121397629 Murder.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492355056 121367496,121398088,2017-04-16 15:05:07,Nazis are inherently superior to you cucks,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492355107 121367496,121398291,2017-04-16 15:06:49,">>121397973 So someone who violates the NAP instantly forfeits their right to live? Anyone who isn't even under immediate threat is fair game to shoot them?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492355209 121367496,121398304,2017-04-16 15:06:54,">>121397707 Im not some ideological autistic ancap because anarchy, in any form, is retarded. I just dont want an overloaded bureaucratic shithole of a country. Antifa deserves to get #rekt to moment they get violent. >>121397899 >And am I a fascist? Maybe. this is why you come across as a shill. Instead of just being upfront and having a discussion, you are acting weird and deceitful.",,Anonymous,20151013_121217-e1444764359292.jpg,HFLMmqQFLo7Z5MBvdfMJGQ==,US,,1492355214 121367496,121398410,2017-04-16 15:07:41,">>121397629 In the Middle Ages in Scandinavia, you could kill a criminal, but you have to say about this two random people what will you meet",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1492355261 121367496,121398460,2017-04-16 15:08:07,">>121397931 Okay, antifa. I get that your ass is still sore after the 100 patriot charge in Berkeley, but nah. Neo-Nazis are a literal meme and just skinheads with minimal political knowledge. All alt-righters have gone through an Austrian libertarian phase, or have ended at that. Pretending that property rights aren't what made the West great (along with high IQ and social cohesion) is delusional. The West succeeded because we were able to separate aspects of our society - markets, church, government, people, land. And the alt-right didn't come apart - the alt-liters were under a truce, but didn't directly call themselves the alt-right. If anything, now they're more tightly bound together and mainstream conservatives are soon going to join them.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492355287 121367496,121398587,2017-04-16 15:09:07,">>121398088 >inherently No such thing, and you're not superior. Though I'll give you that, you can inspire social cohesion within a people. You're retarded everywhere else, though.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492355347 121367496,121398807,2017-04-16 15:10:56,">>121398291 Yeah. If you don't want to, you can report them to a local security provider, who can then run an investigation, or execute them. Either way, murder does not happen under ordinary circumstances in a white, cohesive covenant.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492355456 121367496,121398973,2017-04-16 15:12:18,">>121398460 >all this projecting just because I called you out for being an obvious fascist pretending to be a libertarian Also, this alt-lite shit. You guys always cry about ""mean labels"" and have this persecution complex about the term alt-right, pretending that the media made it up for you guys when you proudly called yourselves that, then you turn around and call everyone on the right who isnt a fascist ""alt-lite"" people that for the most part never had anything to do with you and never claimed other wise. And you guys are neo-nazis. Calling yourselves natsoc or alt-right or whatever the fuck else isnt going to change this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492355538 121367496,121399049,2017-04-16 15:12:58,">>121398304 I am a Hoppean ancap towards those who share my belief, and I might as well be a fascist to those who oppose me, because I don't believe in their rights. Half-measures and cucking out is what caused libertarians to be subverted, which is why instead of Rothbard shitposting IRL about private nukes you have semi-naked guys in bikinis running around the Libertarian convention.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492355578 121367496,121399349,2017-04-16 15:15:24,">>121398973 I am not a fascist. Period. I am however more aligned with fascists than with left-libertarians. Because Pinochet was allied with Friedman, and it worked. My goal is a free society, also free of degeneracy, because that breeds servitude. Whatever means I can use I will use. Being ignorant on /pol/ is not a good decision.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492355724 121367496,121399367,2017-04-16 15:15:33,">>121398807 How does one person resorting to coercion allow other people who aren't acting in self-defense to intervene on others' behalf? Secondly, what if we are out in the middle of nowhere in a small town and no public security services are around?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492355733 121367496,121399564,2017-04-16 15:17:13,">>121399367 If no security forces are present, you're the security force. If you allow violent criminals to live and walk the streets, you enable further murders. This shit doesn't happen outside Turkey, you know.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492355833 121367496,121399743,2017-04-16 15:18:35,">>121399564 I don't know what this shit has to do with Turkey? Crime doesn't happen outside Turkey?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492355915 121367496,121399871,2017-04-16 15:19:48,">>121399743 >says Mehmet as the local Peaceful Kurdish totally not Militia RPG's his house",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492355988 121367496,121399999,2017-04-16 15:20:57,">>121399049 >and I might as well be a fascist to those who oppose me, because I don't believe in their rights. So in other words, you arent a libertarian. A free society is the only one that prospers because the fact is that politicians in general, in ANY form of government become lazy, corrupt, and fat. In an all powerful state, you are fucked in doing anything to them. Also, a free expression of ideas is to be allowed because thats the only way a society can grow. New ideas are not inevitably good just because they are new obviously, but people should be allowed to think of ways to improve without worrying about a government death squad kicking in their door because their ideas will upset the order aka the fat corrupt politician elitist class. > you have semi-naked guys in bikinis running around the Libertarian convention. yeah because it became the ""le you can do whatever you want xD!!"" ideology, which is why the actual party sucks and is a farce",,Anonymous,1432239789074.jpg,SC6eIaUa1alAB+/+E8zXHg==,US,,1492356057 121367496,121400007,2017-04-16 15:21:03,">>121399871 What the fuck does that have to do with anything? This fucking shit-flinging over flags, man. Do you even want to have a conversation?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492356063 121367496,121400258,2017-04-16 15:23:07,>>121399999,,Anonymous,1488858462600.jpg,Juyknvi1mbOz05WUECOFIg==,US,,1492356187 121367496,121400356,2017-04-16 15:23:47,">>121400258 thanks for checking them my friend",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492356227 121367496,121400560,2017-04-16 15:25:29,Have some AnCapwave aesthetic,,Anonymous,PicsArt_04-15-01.52.24.png,MtHp4TRNatQc1kKgC6k6eQ==,US,,1492356329 121367496,121400637,2017-04-16 15:26:13,">>121399049 I gotta agree with Slovakia here. The leftists are leeches that will never stop trying to kill us off. They can't be trusted to mind their own buisness. They will never stop trying to impose their will on us, so it might as well be them that are subjugated and not us. All I wanted was a society based on voluntary interactions, but the left thinks THAT is fascism. And so we have to be crushed because we're ""nazis"" fuck that, I can't allow libertarians to be erradicated. this is a reactionary response to the lefts violence.",,Anonymous,AnarchistGadsden.png,YB/46et2ZZC+7S0LzOEFsA==,US,,1492356373 121367496,121400892,2017-04-16 15:28:17,">>121399999 >A free society is the only one that prospers because the fact is that politicians in general, in ANY form of government become lazy, corrupt, and fat. In an all powerful state, you are fucked in doing anything to them. That's exactly why I'm not a fascist. I am, however, willing to use force to defend my ideals, which makes me a fascist in my enemies' eyes, and I'm not going to waste energy defending myself from an empty accusation anymore.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492356497 121367496,121400994,2017-04-16 15:29:15,">>121400637 Exactly this, for fuck's sake. Well fucking said.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492356555 121367496,121401131,2017-04-16 15:30:19,">>121400007 Nah, not really. It's just that in cohesive covenants, people don't kill each other.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492356619 121367496,121401320,2017-04-16 15:31:53,">>121400892 >I am, however, willing to use force to defend my ideals what does this even mean though? Killing anyone that disagrees with you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492356713 121367496,121401420,2017-04-16 15:32:38,Tolerance for leftism is exactly what made libertarianism the laughingstock it is today.,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1492356758 121367496,121401519,2017-04-16 15:33:31,">>121372453 Real libertarians run as Independents. Independent is literally the best thing you can do. You're not tied down by any partys failings or corruption.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492356811 121367496,121401685,2017-04-16 15:34:56,">>121401320 >disagrees with me on banal shit like what is the appropriate distance missile silos, heavy industry and labour camps for communists have to be from inhabited land or >disagrees with me and says that liberty, property, and life are not basic human rights and is willing to act upon that claim? Discussion for the first, helicopter for the second.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492356896 121367496,121401701,2017-04-16 15:35:04,">>121401519 Mad Max isnt an independent I think",,Anonymous,o-MAXIME-BERNIER-MAD-MAX-facebook.jpg,lcOCB3GHvJiaFts3987r1A==,US,,1492356904 121367496,121401791,2017-04-16 15:35:53,no step on snek,,Anonymous,don't tread on Miia.jpg,46vuZAv/zqMr/PIsNjbyxQ==,PT,,1492356953 121367496,121402103,2017-04-16 15:38:47,>>121397120,,Anonymous,64a.jpg,knq1UoV9ZHHfaXTPzyH/1w==,GB,,1492357127 121367496,121402134,2017-04-16 15:39:06,">>121401791 what is that snake lady even from? asking for a friend",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492357146 121367496,121402819,2017-04-16 15:44:29,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_04-16-03.42.31.jpg,aHPxBIkjOineJDZ7C+X38w==,US,,1492357469 121367496,121403383,2017-04-16 15:48:55,">>121399999 kek has chosen a side.",,Anonymous,1481656079183.gif,1A346pVxfIezF8NFnDC+Yw==,US,,1492357735 121367496,121403596,2017-04-16 15:50:31,Hey guys I'm new to Libertarianism but I'm interested. Can someone explain to me who builds the roads? Thanks in advance for answers,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492357831 121367496,121404275,2017-04-16 15:55:22,">>121403596 Guys in reflective clothing with helmets on, paid by whomstever wants the road to exist.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492358122 121367496,121404419,2017-04-16 15:56:21,">>121403596 No one will build the roads, we are staunchly against the construction of roads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492358181 121367496,121404905,2017-04-16 16:00:01,">>121403596 Roads were invented and monopolized by the state so its agents could better travel to people's homes and expropriate them and tax them. There would be a lot less roads in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492358401 121367496,121405167,2017-04-16 16:02:07,">>121403596 The typical statist system funds road-building via taxation, while in a libertarian (although you're probably thinking of minarchism or anarcho-capitalism) system, roads would be made by private entities, possibly paid for like express lanes on highways. I personally think the roads and interstate highway system should remain as-is, however.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492358527 121367496,121405221,2017-04-16 16:02:26,">>121402134 Monster Musume",,Anonymous,Lamias are cold blooded.jpg,q7BnnYexVVRqQJ0hVWGAYw==,PT,,1492358546 121367496,121407380,2017-04-16 16:18:14,Bump. Comfy Easter Sunday Thread.,,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1492359494 121367496,121407814,2017-04-16 16:21:13,is Pinochet /nuestro general/?,,Anonymous,lrg Hanako.png,I4aqMZyxhJCde6feO9rSuQ==,PT,,1492359673 121367496,121408737,2017-04-16 16:27:50,">>121367496 >>121400000",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492360070 121367496,121408874,2017-04-16 16:28:54,">>121407814 Si.",,Anonymous,reactionary liberty.png,ILJQlodNgOd8kFn6a8eXYA==,PT,,1492360134 121367496,121408946,2017-04-16 16:29:25,"Would the abolishment of the state curb corporatism, seeing as the state grants them the legislation to hide behind? Furthermore what form of communication could be utilized to give objective reviews of goods and services provided , or would that be solved through the diligent drafting of interpersonal contracts for said articles or services? Or can you privatise a bureau of standards? Video related to first question: https://youtu.be/IFe9wiDfb0E",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1492360165 121367496,121409367,2017-04-16 16:32:25,,,Anonymous,A79135971.png,DMXbAuCjL2M7fTzCdCedtA==,GB,,1492360345 121367496,121409630,2017-04-16 16:34:31,Thoughts on Arachnism?,,Anonymous,Spideranarchy.gif,pmWCe7rksd4JA9z6v0HNnA==,US,,1492360471 121367496,121410081,2017-04-16 16:37:55,">>121405167 >roads would be made by private entities No they wouldn't you communist faggot. /lrg/ is strictly opposed to the existence of roads.",,Anonymous,1491227436017.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,DE,,1492360675 121367496,121411476,2017-04-16 16:47:39,">>121410081 Based. There's no place for roads in a free society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492361259 121367496,121411529,2017-04-16 16:48:05,"GENUINE QUESTION How do commercials fit into the NAP? The marketing departments at corporations like Coca-Cola and Wendy's are filled with humanity's brightest minds. These people come out of the Ivy League to make big bucks designing highly effective 30 second clips that convince the low IQ and children to buy sugar water, junk food, and the latest, must have technology. It's disingenuous to say that any interaction between a low and high IQ person is fair. A high IQ person can easily dupe the low into doing what they want. With commercials we have some the smartest people on earth planting desires into the brains of dummies in order to farm the dummies for their cash. You can call it human farming or whatever, but it's obviously not fair. My question is whether this mind control goes beyond unfairness and into the realm of undue aggression. I don't think advertising one's product can never be fair, but with 21st century practices it's outright manipulation. Does this coercion = aggression and therefore violate the NAP?",,Anonymous,438197498327.jpg,esoPCChf7ESgvqLCG6eW0g==,US,,1492361285 121367496,121411703,2017-04-16 16:49:25,">>121411529 Aggression is physical aggression.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492361365 121367496,121412323,2017-04-16 16:53:45,">>121411529 use those techniques to controll your own mind from shitposting",,Anonymous,wat.jpg,wyN7pfs2NN4Ej22bOWo9fQ==,ES,,1492361625 121367496,121412679,2017-04-16 16:56:12,">>121411703 So thought control can never be bad?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492361772 121367496,121412797,2017-04-16 16:57:00,,,Anonymous,A8860825.png,FfCR4o1eHqrzKwd8rDRchw==,GB,,1492361820 121367496,121413034,2017-04-16 16:58:36,">>121408946 blaming the lawers ignore lawmakers normies, everytime",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1492361916 121367496,121413356,2017-04-16 17:00:38,">>121412679 If by ""thought control"" you mean ""influence"" then no. Note that the ""objection"" you're raising goes well beyond libertarianism. Influence, propaganda and brainwashing can be used by all manner of systems not the least of which would be the staunchly authoritarian ones, which on top of the exertion of influence can use force against you. So I don't see why this issue would be raised specifically in connection with libertarianism. It still applies to even moderate socialist countries or our present situation. Furthermore, under your definition of ""undue influence = bad"" we would have to recognize all parent-child interaction as fundamentally evil.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492362038 121367496,121413375,2017-04-16 17:00:44,">>121411529 You still have a choice to buy the product or not. You have to have a low IQ for advertisments to ""control"" you, in which case the wealth of the dumb/poor will transfer to the smart people advertising their products. So, smart people get richer and dumb poor people get poorer, weeding them out of the gene pool over time. Survival of the fittest. Ancap is the perfect form of eugenics.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492362044 121367496,121413709,2017-04-16 17:02:55,">>121408946 >>121412797 That's not what corporatism is. What you are talking about is corporatocracy. Corporatism has nothing to do with corporations.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492362175 121367496,121413753,2017-04-16 17:03:14,,,Anonymous,A89269262.png,ubEyBhAcj9hmcHRVI/YVTw==,GB,,1492362194 121367496,121414006,2017-04-16 17:04:56,">>121413709 nobody implied corporatism was that you autistic fuck",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492362296 121367496,121414094,2017-04-16 17:05:25,">>121367496 I'm here for the physical removal of communists and antifa. I will will never forget never forgive Holodomor (which killed basically all my old world family).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492362325 121367496,121414189,2017-04-16 17:06:04,">>121413753 >>121409367 >>121412797 Wow you must be real butthurt to be making new OC to shill against us.",,Anonymous,DontBait.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1492362364 121367496,121414588,2017-04-16 17:08:33,">>121412679 It can never be a violation of the non-aggression principle (since the low IQ person is not being coerced to buy anything, his own stupidity is to blame). However, if you define ""bad"" as something that increases peoples' time preferences; shortens their lifespans and makes them lazy and dull, it's perfectly okay for a libertarian to call this type of corporate ""mind control"" evil and unwanted. For instance: a priori, that is, in a vacuum, pornography, hard drugs, incest and other degeneracy would be permitted to occur under anarcho-capitalism. Libertarianism is a study of law and legal ethics, it only asks us to respect other person's private property rights. The social control on all these ""bads"" is local or widespread community enforcement of determined morals and patterns of behavior. The vast majority of normal people would not be so tolerant of drug addicts, alcoholics, violent criminals or all-around unpleasant people (read: niggers, feminists, parasites, neurotics, etc.) as they are now, under present statist conditions (where a complaint to the government can afford you your job or licence to whatever it is you seek to protect from these people). Under anarcho-capitalism, pretty much all communities, however large or small they could be, would enforce exclusion and segregation policies to those types of people virtually everyone detests (murders, rapists, thieves, etc.). Additional types of exclusion and segregation would arise in areas where the people explicitly wished to maintain a standard of conduct they deemed ""normal"", so you'd have literally hundreds of thousands of voluntarily-arranged communities, each with specific requirements of entry and of acceptance. There would be a free market of ideologies and opinions. I don't think I have to explain to you further why ""our"" way of life, the patriarchal heterosexual traditional family lifestyle, would out-compete every other lifestyle experiment conducted.",,Anonymous,ancap squad.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1492362513 121367496,121414671,2017-04-16 17:09:06,">>121414006 >nobody implied It was pretty much implied (not directly stated) in your pic. Also you're a commie, and most commies use the terms interchangeably. Please explain to me how we live under corporatism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492362546 121367496,121415023,2017-04-16 17:11:23,">>121414671 >Also you're a commie Please saying you're being ironic, instantly bringing out the commie ad hom is a perfect charicature of ancaps >Please explain to me how we live under corporatism. Interesting, ancaps say we live under corporatism all the time, so I suppose you're being a contrarian autist. What is lobbying?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492362683 121367496,121415742,2017-04-16 17:16:14,">>121413356 >we would have to recognize all parent-child interaction as fundamentally evil That's different than corporate-<90 IQ people interaction. The parent-child interaction is symbiotic, whereas the other is done in order to extract wealth. Actually, it's only true that parent-child relationships are symbiotic in a good situation. If a parent were to exploit their child we would call that bad or evil. I think this goes to my point. >>121413375 >So, smart people get richer and dumb poor people get poorer, weeding them out of the gene pool over time. Survival of the fittest. Or the smart drag the dumb along at destitute levels in order to exploit them for labor, i.e. slavery. >You still have a choice to buy the product or not. I don't know, man. I grew up in a pretty shit town and had a couple of low IQ friends (so dumb the army wouldn't accept them as infantry). They wasted all of their money on fast food and energy drinks. They're now addicted to weed and will probably end up homeless junkies in the next couple of years.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492362974 121367496,121415828,2017-04-16 17:16:45,">>121415023 >Please saying you're being ironic, instantly bringing out the commie ad hom is a perfect charicature of ancaps You're a communist faggot. Get off my lawn loozer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492363005 121367496,121416110,2017-04-16 17:18:27,">>121415023 >""instantly bringing out the commie ad hom"" >says the guy who posts his entire folder of strawman pictures >ancaps say we live under corporatism all the time Anybody who uses corporatism and corporatocracy interchangeable is ill informed. >lobbying You just proved that you have no idea what corporatism is.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492363107 121367496,121416121,2017-04-16 17:18:31,">>121415742 *I use those friends as an example that people can be so dumb that they always follow their first impulse. Advertising to these people seems extremely exploitative because it's like taking candy from a child.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492363111 121367496,121416276,2017-04-16 17:19:31,">>121415742 >They're now addicted to weed and will probably end up homeless junkies in the next couple of years Well, I don't want my taxes paying for them to be dumb parasites. Naturally they would die and be eliminated from the gene pool for being degenerates, but state programs allow them to continue living and pass on their dumb genes to another generation. The great thing about AnCap is all the retards die out leaving the rich ubermensches to reproduce, speeding up the evolution of humanity.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492363171 121367496,121416484,2017-04-16 17:20:44,">>121416276 Or the smart drag the dumb along at destitute levels in order to exploit them for labor, i.e. slavery.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492363244 121367496,121417081,2017-04-16 17:24:20,"I'm the dude who has it in his head to write something about the economic dynamic of the SJWs movement. This talk seems very a propos. (Doing research. Hope I pull through with something.) https://mises.org/library/intellectuals-against-market >>121415742 >The parent-child interaction is symbiotic So are voluntary actions and attempt at reciprocal influence. But more to the point, the liberty of the children, under your definition, is just as damaged by his interaction with a parent -- in fact more so -- than in the case of an adult being influenced by publicity. As I said, if your objection stands, if influence as you understand it is to be taken as an act of aggression, then ALL systems which allow this kind of influence are illegitimate, and not just the libertarian one. Furthermore, there's probably a good case to be made that, under this definition, most of schooling, including tertiary schooling, is an act of aggression. Sophisticated political campaigning is likewise turned into an act of aggression. The fact of the matter is that there are stupid people. There are people who are easy to influence. They will be so whether they live under communism, social democracy, minarchism, feudalism or what have you. There is no guarantee, ever, under any circumstances, that these people, which usually are of limited value to society no matter the society, will ever be treated as well as their more talented counterpart. To condemn a system on this basis amounts to condemning all systems. Right now you seem to imply that people of lower intelligence would be better off in a system in which (1) influence is impossible (good luck with that system) and (2) force is possibly allowed against them (?). Libertarian have no intention of limiting people's right to attempt to peacefully influence others, and seek to eliminate (2).",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492363460 121367496,121417631,2017-04-16 17:27:42,When will there be ancap squads with flags ready to fight antifa?,,Anonymous,2323232.png,WgtOR9jRb4blFTmClJrmmQ==,NL,,1492363662 121367496,121417974,2017-04-16 17:30:00,">>121414588 >since the low IQ person is not being coerced to buy anything Tricking someone to act against their own best interests seems pretty coercive to me. >his own stupidity is to blame In conjunction with a more powerful second party bent on exploitation. By the same logic a bully isn't in the wrong for taking the lunch money of a kid with skinny arms. It's the pussy's fault for not being able to protect himself. You seem to have a might makes right morality which contradicts the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492363800 121367496,121418022,2017-04-16 17:30:18,">>121417631 I'm ready but those fags are always fucking up shit on the other side of the country. I would love to see those queers in my hood, but they're to pussy to do anything too far away from commiefornia",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492363818 121367496,121418347,2017-04-16 17:32:27,">>121417974 >Tricking someone to act against their own best interests seems pretty coercive to me. Tricking what? Define tricking, by the way. >By the same logic a bully isn't in the wrong for taking the lunch money of a kid with skinny arms. It's the pussy's fault for not being able to protect himself. You're equating physical violence with TV ads.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492363947 121367496,121419154,2017-04-16 17:37:04,">>121417974 >their own best interests And there you go with your fallacious notion. There is no such thing ""own best interests"". This notion is always deployed so as to coerce people into doing things which they themselves do not think of doing. Preferences are subjective. If an individual would rather destroy himself by eating fast food everyday instead of eating well and exercising, then he is not acting against ""his own best interest"" but is rather declaring that he evaluates his interest to eat fast food instead of eating well. Seeing this, some authoritarian asshole could come in an say ""I forbid you to eat fast food as I, a superior intellectual, know just what you need, what your TRUE interest is"". The fast food eater would rightly interpret THIS as an act of aggression, not the publicity of the fast food chain. Moreover, the kind of abuse against liberty the notion of ""true interests"" can justify is endless. To the Christian, accepting Jesus is in my own best interests, while for the Muslim it consists of Islam. For the communist, seeing the truth of the proletariat is in my own best interests. In the end, coercion is justified because people other than myself are insisting that I am too much of an idiot to make decisions for myself. And that's actually your argument. ""What about the people I consider fucking stupid. Can't THEY justify my authoritarianism?"" No. And if you insist on using notions of ""true interests"", then be ready to fight for that ground with every other maniac who believes he has the ""true answer"". Libertarians are content letting people make their own ""mistakes"", which is to say their own choices.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492364224 121367496,121420875,2017-04-16 17:46:58,">>121408874 >Customers who viewed this item also viewed: learning to fly Helicopters",,Anonymous,lrg girl.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1492364818 121367496,121421234,2017-04-16 17:48:50,">>121420875 Yes, I kek'd hard when I saw that.",,Anonymous,hoppe reading marx.jpg,+/IrKYKTakiHMx5KRGqqIw==,PT,,1492364930 121367496,121421286,2017-04-16 17:49:08,">>121420875 Throw commies and fuck roads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492364948 121367496,121421755,2017-04-16 17:51:49,">>121417081 >the liberty of the children, under your definition, is just as damaged by his interaction with a parent I agree The difference is that the parent isn't depriving liberty with the intention of exploitation (if they were they'd be considered an evil parent), whereas a corporation with engineered ad campaigns deprives stupid people of liberty with the intention of exploitation. My point is that it's contradictory to consider the exploitative parent evil, but the corporation innocent. >if influence as you understand it is to be taken as an act of aggression Influence with the intention of exploitation. >then ALL systems which allow this kind of influence are illegitimate Yes, I consider all systems of exploitative influence akin to slavery. >not just the libertarian one I just used libertarianism as an example >most of schooling, including tertiary schooling, is an act of aggression. I see schooling that's done in a genuine attempt to help children as legitimate. If schooling makes turns children into faceless worker ants then it's exploitative and therefore possibly aggression. >Sophisticated political campaigning is likewise turned into an act of aggression. Yeah >which usually are of limited value to society These are the people who do shit cubicle work and don't complain. Stupid people do a lot of important work. >ever be treated as well as their more talented counterpart It's not about being treated ""as well,"" but for intelligent people to use their ability of manipulation responsibly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492365109 121367496,121421817,2017-04-16 17:52:08,">>121417081 >To condemn a system on this basis amounts to condemning all systems. All systems that allow smart people to exploit dumb people. This property isn't essential to all systems therefore there can be systems without this property therefore I'm not condemning all systems. >in a system in which (1) influence is impossible Influence is ubiquitous in human interaction. You and I are influencing each other in this conversation. We are changing the thoughts in each other's brains. You and I are on equal footing, though. We're of similar ability and knowledge. This isn't true when I talk to a guy with down syndrome. I can convince a guy with down syndrome to do anything. That's coercive and possibly an act of aggression. >Libertarian have no intention of limiting people's right to attempt to peacefully influence others I agree with this. My point is that influencing morons to buy Coke is not peaceful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492365128 121367496,121422308,2017-04-16 17:54:56,">>121421817 >influencing morons to buy Coke is not peaceful TASTE MY WRATH, MORONS",,Anonymous,download.jpg,XkRnkfWuDUhNkWTigOtmBA==,US,,1492365296 121367496,121422358,2017-04-16 17:55:14,">>121367704 >>121367656 >>121367581 Anon Where do I start? Which book if only one to read?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492365314 121367496,121422706,2017-04-16 17:57:17,">>121422358 Anatomy of the state was my first read.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492365437 121367496,121422800,2017-04-16 17:57:48,">>121422358 For each? Mises: Start with Liberalism, followed by Socialism, go from there and then end with Human Action Rothbard: Start with Anatomy of the State, followed by The Ethics of Liberty, A New Liberty, and go from there, finish with Man, Economy, and State. Hoppe: Start with A Short History of Man, move on to Democracy, then A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism, and go from there.",,Anonymous,lrg pepes.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,PT,,1492365468 121367496,121423016,2017-04-16 17:59:06,">>121397707 Hoppean libertarianism does not break its own principles. DELET this",,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1492365546 121367496,121423370,2017-04-16 18:01:06,">>121423016 Looking back I think the only problem with this image is that I wrote ""privately-owned microstates"" instead of ""privately-owned covenant communities,"" shouldn't have used the word state. This was the first meme I made of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,hoppe bae.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,PT,,1492365666 121367496,121423838,2017-04-16 18:03:46,">>121423016 I don't give up on my principles, I just don't find it useful to argue with these fucks anymore. It's like the roads ""debate"" I just say fuck it, fine I'm anti roads. If they want to call me a fascist in fine with that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492365826 121367496,121424138,2017-04-16 18:05:42,">>121423370 Easily One of my favorite hoppe images. Didn't know you made it.",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1492365942 121367496,121424495,2017-04-16 18:07:37,">>121424138 I didn't make the one you posted. But when I said the first image I made I was referring to the five stage red pill image, pretty dank.",,Anonymous,you talkin to me.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,PT,,1492366057 121367496,121424597,2017-04-16 18:08:12,">>121383194 Sick flag dude should that be the symbol for NatCaps? Oh btw Libertarian discord link. https://discord.gg/3uT9E",,Anonymous,Libertarian_Fascism.jpg,/mqJs1pvBIhO5PPXTxNpzA==,US,,1492366092 121367496,121424652,2017-04-16 18:08:32,,,Anonymous,1491853388146.jpg,+hoS0z1JAUXjshXkY6MBuQ==,RU,,1492366112 121367496,121424942,2017-04-16 18:10:22,">>121418347 >Tricking what? Knowingly manipulating a person into acting against their own best interests. >Define tricking To cunningly deceive >You're equating physical violence with TV ads. I was thinking the threat of physical violence ""Give me your money or I'll kick your ass"" versus commercials engineered to the tune of billions of dollars by humanity's smartest people in order to farm low IQ people for wealth. >>121419154 >There is no such thing ""own best interests"". This simple moral relativism is lame. There are values held by everyone in western civilization. No one here wants to be a slave. No one wants to be murdered. No one wants their family to be murdered. etc. We all have priorities and preferences that are fundamentally similar because they are grounded in the culture that binds us socially. Postmodernists have been rejecting this fact for decades and people like you continue to pedal it because you haven't realized how this generally leads to living a shitty and unfulling life. Wake up and smell the flowers of new sincerity. >some authoritarian asshole could come in an say Why did you jump all the way to this? I'm just asking questions, not advocating for people to make changes in the world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492366222 121367496,121425189,2017-04-16 18:11:48,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAsWhKnGVxo I do love seeing multiple factions of the Right all come together to remove commies. Our ideological differences are removed from discussion as we fight together. The enemy matters more.",,Anonymous,1453446697596.jpg,7ZxHm6wrvFYvsBOC1kDpCw==,US,,1492366308 121367496,121425202,2017-04-16 18:11:55,bitching you be aggressing against me?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492366315 121367496,121425487,2017-04-16 18:13:40,">>121424942 I don't remember the last time Coca-Cola told me they'd break my knee caps if I didn't buy their drinks. I think you're overestimating the amount of ""low IQ"" people who are ""deceived"" by ads. Anyways, let people commit mistakes and learn from them. There won't be a welfare state to support them, anyways.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492366420 121367496,121426107,2017-04-16 18:17:09,">>121422308 The best slave is the one who thinks he is free.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492366629 121367496,121426145,2017-04-16 18:17:20,">>121424495 Kek, I know. I made the image I posted.",,Anonymous,American.jpg,pgkeqDCQ0Nl7QQmsmFYP/Q==,US,,1492366640 121367496,121426664,2017-04-16 18:20:17,">>121426145 Nice image man. Love the 80s a e s t h e t i c.",,Anonymous,hoppewave 3.png,FlwzgsdnBAUB3ACvAepaUA==,PT,,1492366817 121367496,121427265,2017-04-16 18:23:52,">>121367496 You know what really pisses me off about so many ancaps? SO MANY OF THEM SUPPORT OPEN BORDERS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492367032 121367496,121427405,2017-04-16 18:24:48,if only he had a gun right?,,Anonymous,1492377869784.png,bb5b6a82v+AT9eETiT0aCg==,US,,1492367088 121367496,121427424,2017-04-16 18:24:58,">>121367496 no one wants to move to Britain anyways. Stop trying to steal our flags anyways.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492367098 121367496,121427742,2017-04-16 18:26:43,">>121425487 >I don't remember the last time Coca-Cola told me they'd break my knee caps Threats of violence aren't the only form of psychological manipulation. I think you're underestimating the amount of ""low IQ"" people who are deceived by ads >Anyways, let people commit mistakes and learn from them There's no learning beyond an indoctrinated paradigm, that's my point. These people are locked into the same daily behavior because they've been convinced by commercials that drinking soda everyday is acceptable. Fuck-heads like you guys say, ""Oh, it's okay, everything is relative. Being a fat piece of shit is acceptable because no one has any best interest of LIVING A FULFILLING LIFE."" The mindless slavery of this depraved culture is fucking sick. I thought libertarians might be past that, but I guess not. You're going to continue to pedal the liberty for all narrative as billions live enslaved to their Doritos addiction. >There won't be a welfare state to support them, anyways. What is with your people's obsession with the welfare state? You're like vegans, plugging your shit into every conversation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492367203 121367496,121427880,2017-04-16 18:27:27,"Belief in the free market is as naive as belief in SantaClaus. There simply is no such thing as a market free of all political bias. The mostimportant economic resource is trust in the future, and this resource is constantlythreatened by thieves and charlatans. Markets by themselves oʃer no protectionagainst fraud, theft and violence. It is the job of political systems to ensure trustby legislating sanctions against cheats and to establish and support police forces,courts and jails which will enforce the law. . There is an even more fundamental reason why it’s dangerous to give markets acompletely free rein. Adam Smith taught that the shoemaker would use his surplusto employ more assistants. This implies that egoistic greed is beneɹcial for all,since profits are utilised to expand production and hire more employees.Yet what happens if the greedy shoemaker increases his proɹts by payingemployees less and increasing their work hours? The standard answer is that thefree market would protect the employees. If our shoemaker pays too little anddemands too much, the best employees would naturally abandon him and go towork for his competitors. The tyrant shoemaker would ɹnd himself left with theworst labourers, or with no labourers at all. He would have to mend his ways or go out of business. His own greed would compel him to treat his employees well.This sounds bulletproof in theory, but in practice the bullets get through all tooeasily. In a completely free market, unsupervised by kings and priests, avariciouscapitalists can establish monopolies or collude against their workforces. If there isa single corporation controlling all shoe factories in a country, or if all factoryowners conspire to reduce wages simultaneously, then the labourers are no longerable to protect themselves by switching jobs.Even worse, greedy bosses might curtail the workers’ freedom of movementthrough debt peonage or slavery.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492367247 121367496,121428072,2017-04-16 18:28:31,">>121427265 Nice meme. Borders are privatized and instead of a single territorial border, you have tons of private borders. >buy property on border >shoot every single migrant that tries to cross your property",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492367311 121367496,121428081,2017-04-16 18:28:34,">>121427265 They're gonna have to be removed from my covenant if they want to destroy my beautiful gold plated 40 foot tall 20 feet deep Barb wire and auto turret guarded border wall",,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1492367314 121367496,121428696,2017-04-16 18:32:02,">>121428072 Then Merkel buys a property on the border and crashes your nation with no survivors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492367522 121367496,121428720,2017-04-16 18:32:12,">>121427742 >Fuck-heads like you guys say, ""Oh, it's okay, everything is relative. Being a fat piece of shit is acceptable because no one has any best interest of LIVING A FULFILLING LIFE."" Kek none of us say any of that, you're delusional. We say, ""yes, go ahead and live your dysgenic life, but don't crying after you suffer the consequences"". Ancap is the ultimate weeder of the unfit for civilization. Stop trying to control what other people do.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492367532 121367496,121428747,2017-04-16 18:32:25,Happy Easter lads,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492367545 121367496,121429405,2017-04-16 18:36:27,">>121411529 Capped",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492367787 121367496,121429514,2017-04-16 18:37:07,">>121428720 >Stop trying to control what other people do. My whole point is that corporations control what people by engineering commercials that appeal to the primal impulses of dumb people. You refuse to question this practice because of your narrow notions of manipulation and liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492367827 121367496,121429579,2017-04-16 18:37:24,"What does /lrg/ think of Ayn Rand? Also to those that are fans would you say The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged is more important a read? btw, I saved this from one of these threads but someone should put the cigarette back in her hand",,Anonymous,Ayn Rand.png,taV+309R/T/e2i7frXzf7w==,GB,,1492367844 121367496,121429708,2017-04-16 18:38:10,">>121429514 Then educate people in not falling for it...",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492367890 121367496,121430627,2017-04-16 18:43:52,">>121410081 How are roads communist if privately paved? That doesn't make any sense. Is this just bait?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492368232 121367496,121430745,2017-04-16 18:44:37,">>121430627 he's memeing calm down",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492368277 121367496,121431061,2017-04-16 18:46:39,">>121430627 because, the people of the local region have to vote on which company they use",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492368399 121367496,121431070,2017-04-16 18:46:41,">>121427880 Do you expect me to read all that shit while I'm hanging out with my family on Easter? All I saw was muh greed. >>121428747 Happy Easter freedom bro",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492368401 121367496,121431282,2017-04-16 18:48:02,">>121429708 That's what Socrates did and he got wasted",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492368482 121367496,121431818,2017-04-16 18:51:22,">>121431282 You gotta be brave faggot. The world is hell because you don't speak the truth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492368682 121367496,121432277,2017-04-16 18:54:07,">>121431818 I'm not scared, I just don't want to die for some bullshit cause like making the world a better place. I'd rather live a nice life in the woods for 80 years",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492368847 121367496,121433118,2017-04-16 18:59:15,">>121432277 Yeah I hear you. I'm doing the same.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492369155 121460636,121460636,2017-04-16 21:57:23,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - RECREATIONAL NUKES EDITION This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1492379843 121460636,121460695,2017-04-16 21:57:49,,,Anonymous,Hoppe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1492379869 121460636,121460811,2017-04-16 21:58:30,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,LJ/F+jRmh8oi5PPBtncQtA==,US,,1492379910 121460636,121460865,2017-04-16 21:58:54,,,Anonymous,von Mises.png,cADZL2DfTQziJh3HRDuVMg==,US,,1492379934 121460636,121461072,2017-04-16 22:00:23,,,Anonymous,1490562112248.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,US,,1492380023 121460636,121463244,2017-04-16 22:16:46,">>121460636 private bump",,Anonymous,Reactionary Liberty.png,ILJQlodNgOd8kFn6a8eXYA==,PT,,1492381006 121460636,121463422,2017-04-16 22:18:08,"Anyone got any good sneks or hoppe pics? starting a political party for hoppe libs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492381088 121460636,121463530,2017-04-16 22:18:55,,,Anonymous,Hans on immagrations.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,US,,1492381135 121460636,121463693,2017-04-16 22:20:09,,,Anonymous,Hoppepill.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,US,,1492381209 121460636,121463753,2017-04-16 22:20:37,,,Anonymous,Whynostate.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,US,,1492381237 121460636,121463779,2017-04-16 22:20:52,">>121463244 >Learning to Fly Helicopters Unreal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492381252 121460636,121463807,2017-04-16 22:21:05,">>121463422 Protip: don't use ""libs"" as shorthand for libertarians. Anyway, our resident portubro creates most of our Hoppe pics.",,Anonymous,hoppewave.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,US,,1492381265 121460636,121464029,2017-04-16 22:22:53,">>121463807 giving rare pino as thanks got anymore?",,Anonymous,Emergency pino.jpg,K2KypfpznT/2gnLq7akLEw==,US,,1492381373 121460636,121464238,2017-04-16 22:24:22,">>121460636 Bump for freedom",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492381462 121460636,121464329,2017-04-16 22:25:07,>>121464029,,Anonymous,Golden Hoppe.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,US,,1492381507 121460636,121464374,2017-04-16 22:25:26,">>121460636 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssX51xoZZ0A >construction regulations are bad goy, m'kay",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1492381526 121460636,121464468,2017-04-16 22:26:05,">>121463779 The algorithms must be picking up the memes.",,Anonymous,1491110851510.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,US,,1492381565 121460636,121464771,2017-04-16 22:28:12,">>121461072 >r/td calling themselves truepol lmao",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492381692 121460636,121464832,2017-04-16 22:28:37,">>121464374 how was this a problem of no regulations?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492381717 121460636,121464847,2017-04-16 22:28:42,">>121463244 >>121463779",,Anonymous,1490725917867.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1492381722 121460636,121464885,2017-04-16 22:28:59,">>121464771 >r/td >libertarian r/td are nazi-lite aka ""populists""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492381739 121460636,121465009,2017-04-16 22:29:59,">>121464885 They are neo conservatives, useful idiots",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492381799 121460636,121465106,2017-04-16 22:30:38,">>121463779 Helicopters are for killing commies, and don't you forget it",,Anonymous,helicoptero no ultramar.jpg,HoiJ8YvuO6D7RiCSff4MhQ==,PT,,1492381838 121460636,121465213,2017-04-16 22:31:26,">>121464329 Dump em all sempai, my body is ready",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492381886 121460636,121465217,2017-04-16 22:31:29,">>121464374 Standards =/= regulations. The incident you point to happened WITH regulations in place... A smart person hires and inspector no matter what the regulations are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492381889 121460636,121465244,2017-04-16 22:31:37,">>121464885 Scratch a libertarian and a fascist bleeds. Also don't think I don't know who spams the helicopter meme-shit.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492381897 121460636,121465366,2017-04-16 22:32:36,">>121464374 Watch the last 20 seconds of that video. Seems to me like those regulations were already in place, but it happened anyway. So what's the statist solution? Complicate the situation with written notices and lawyers? It's in the landlord's best interest to clean that shit up, because otherwise the tenant will leave and no one will want to live in there and pay rent. Regulations don't fix this, standards do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492381956 121460636,121465557,2017-04-16 22:34:00,>>121465213,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1492382040 121460636,121465625,2017-04-16 22:34:28,>>121465557,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,US,,1492382068 121460636,121465664,2017-04-16 22:34:52,>>121465625,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,US,,1492382092 121460636,121465721,2017-04-16 22:35:23,>>121465664,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,US,,1492382123 121460636,121465782,2017-04-16 22:35:48,>>121465721,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,US,,1492382148 121460636,121465856,2017-04-16 22:36:19,"Can someone explain why anarcho-capitalism is so big in Brazil? I know there is a Mises Institute in Brazil but it can't be all their doing, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492382179 121460636,121465880,2017-04-16 22:36:31,>>121465782,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,US,,1492382191 121460636,121465922,2017-04-16 22:36:51,">>121465856 Forgot picture",,Anonymous,mises_brazil.png,cHzVbt+b84DRclW69kmv7Q==,US,,1492382211 121460636,121465949,2017-04-16 22:37:03,>>121465880,,Anonymous,"awoo, so to speak.png",xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,US,,1492382223 121460636,121465951,2017-04-16 22:37:05,,,Anonymous,1485792744861.png,FCQw6LUsYQF3+EIaEthswg==,US,,1492382225 121460636,121466012,2017-04-16 22:37:33,>>121465949,,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,US,,1492382253 121460636,121466070,2017-04-16 22:38:02,>>121465951,,Anonymous,Ancap argument.png,r1y5WpkXJTIoK29P4pmpMQ==,PT,,1492382282 121460636,121466307,2017-04-16 22:39:55,>>121466012,,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,US,,1492382395 121460636,121466431,2017-04-16 22:40:47,">>121466307 That's all I've got saved for good ol' Hoppe.",,Anonymous,removing commies.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,US,,1492382447 121460636,121466440,2017-04-16 22:40:51,">>121463244 >learning to fly helicopters NICE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492382451 121460636,121466606,2017-04-16 22:42:16,">>121466431 So is this thread just for LARPing and masturbation fantasies?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492382536 121460636,121466736,2017-04-16 22:43:15,">>121465856 Brasil so fucked up, that any non conventional ideology find fertile soil to grow.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492382595 121460636,121466990,2017-04-16 22:45:14,">>121466736 >admitting ancapism's appeal isn't legitimate Eesh",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492382714 121460636,121467025,2017-04-16 22:45:26,">>121466606 Nah man, you're looking at the memes. We're perfectly happy to discuss.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492382726 121460636,121467032,2017-04-16 22:45:30,">>121466736 In the 19 centure, we didn't have commies here, but we had the positivist revolutionaries instead, strange ideologies grow here.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492382730 121460636,121467361,2017-04-16 22:47:56,">>121466606 Isn't everything but NatSoc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492382876 121460636,121467827,2017-04-16 22:51:34,">>121467025 Yeah, how about the fact that Ancapism has no appeal to non-middle class. Hitler at least had popular support, Pinochet didn't. Or that the Bitcoin community is filled with easily scammed cretins and pedophiles? Or the fact that your ideology is actually feudalism?",,Anonymous,1486846117013.jpg,wi+y0KJA9tLTdjVd/icvRw==,CA,,1492383094 121460636,121467989,2017-04-16 22:52:49,,,Anonymous,EXPANDING MIND OF LIBERTY.jpg,BUF3FTIHbu/GkVxjHoQjfg==,US,,1492383169 121460636,121469015,2017-04-16 23:00:21,">>121467827 >Yeah, how about the fact that Ancapism has no appeal to non-middle class. Because currently most of them don't know they are ruled by a dark occult, child raping, blood drinking, elite group of people from all walks of life. >Hitler at least had popular support Socialism is popular, because appealing to authority is instant success if women can vote. >Or that the Bitcoin community is filled with easily scammed cretins and pedophiles? Uhhh okay. So are people who use dollars? We don't live in Utopia and never will, but we can do a lot to improve things. Bitcoin is probably some cia cuck shit anyway. >Or the fact that your ideology is actually feudalism? You are objectively incorrect. Statism is by definition identical to feudalism. Anarchy is not. An = without, Archon = ruler. Its a society that recognizes the natural laws of god yet doesn't put their energy into a statist slave system to murder, steal, and kidnap people to help protect us from being murdered, stolen from, and kidnapped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E This should help.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492383621 121507873,121507873,2017-04-17 05:57:49,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >Fresh Cantwell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbohT97agbQ",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DON'T TREAD ON ME EDITION,Anonymous,1492380342903.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,GB,,1492408669 121507873,121507902,2017-04-17 05:58:15,,,Anonymous,1492379868523.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,GB,,1492408695 121507873,121507920,2017-04-17 05:58:34,,,Anonymous,1492105964485.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,GB,,1492408714 121507873,121507948,2017-04-17 05:58:53,,,Anonymous,1492105684148.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,GB,,1492408733 121507873,121507971,2017-04-17 05:59:13,,,Anonymous,1492105751075.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,GB,,1492408753 121507873,121509186,2017-04-17 06:14:38,">>121507873 how come your so called ""libertarian"" peddlers speak with a rainbow lisp? Obviously they are not libertarian, but ones who mimic libertarians. In other words CIA homos, borats, trojan horses, pervertariat, tar budget lives matter, etc. Very big difference. So if you're appearing as snake oil salesman if you're pushing con artists.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1492409678 121544689,121544689,2017-04-17 12:25:58,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1491690706678.png,6FFkhfNPzOTFG7fBozaoCw==,GB,,1492431958 121544689,121544870,2017-04-17 12:27:33,Bump,,Anonymous,1492444438681.jpg,CGkL0mxapJAGAe8ocpC6Ow==,GB,,1492432053 121544689,121545181,2017-04-17 12:30:23,Haven't seen this thread up too much recently. How was easter for everyone; I hope you didn't bring up politics too much to your family?,,Anonymous,1491428143883.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,GB,,1492432223 121544689,121545494,2017-04-17 12:33:14,">>121545181 >brother told me about how he has to study Marxism (he does a History degree) as his analysis 'is fundamental in understanding how we left the feudal system to capitalist system' Of course names like Hayek would mean nothing to him or his peers. A further reminder that universities are just leftist indoctrination camps.",,Anonymous,1413801762318.jpg,G6hH/+KvEyVSmvc34ZP8yw==,GB,,1492432394 121544689,121545870,2017-04-17 12:36:07,">>121545494 Absolutely Disgusting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492432567 121544689,121546048,2017-04-17 12:37:45,">>121545494 save his soul before it's too late",,Anonymous,1491546986041s.jpg,5i2sK4MzPugffBBWaJ+MVw==,ES,,1492432665 121544689,121546086,2017-04-17 12:38:10,Why are there still communists in the world?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492432690 121544689,121546320,2017-04-17 12:40:04,This website is 18+,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492432804 121544689,121546442,2017-04-17 12:41:15,">>121545870 >>121546048 Quite interesting because I've talked to him before about whether they study the history of Economics/Politics/Philosophy etc, and it's always been a resounding 'no'. They only do 'History', which is inevitably warfare. Now suddenly, bam, essays on Marxism. He's fairly redpilled desu, but needs a lot more persuading on Libertarianism. Frankly, he doesn't care for political ideologies at all.",,Anonymous,cgVCtwd.jpg,2Hlo5zuWsPe3k21YknO3Ag==,GB,,1492432875 121544689,121546448,2017-04-17 12:41:20,">>121546320 What did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492432880 121544689,121546493,2017-04-17 12:41:36,">>121544689 Ancaps deserve a holocaust (the first and only one)",,Anonymous,1378520566816.png,Wm26OZ9AFu/fWUwBCOD/iQ==,CA,,1492432896 121544689,121546741,2017-04-17 12:43:47,,,Anonymous,492431584416.png,W32dih2xa+jIFOH8P28r2A==,CA,,1492433027 121544689,121546918,2017-04-17 12:45:11,>>121546493,,Anonymous,1491738656750.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,GB,,1492433111 121544689,121547167,2017-04-17 12:47:11,">>121546493 To bad Nazifags never genocided anyone.",,Anonymous,Master_Race_0.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1492433231 121544689,121547326,2017-04-17 12:48:39,">>121546741 >implying you can't profit off history",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492433319 121544689,121547366,2017-04-17 12:49:01,">>121547167 implying the gommunists had bread",,Anonymous,320704157781d079b5e1e2462d7953987f0134618666433fea49da80aac4004b.jpg,4w/mYM1gY2tFQ3j1vuxCLQ==,CA,,1492433341 121544689,121547867,2017-04-17 12:52:56,But who will build the metros? The Eiffel tower? What about the huge public-works?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492433576 121544689,121548540,2017-04-17 12:58:26,">>121545494 For God's sake have him read Hoppe as soon as you can.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492433906 121544689,121548941,2017-04-17 13:01:43,">>121547867 >public-works",,Anonymous,when the communist slips off the helicopter.png,csW5xl6/mwctUz4fmIQwfg==,PT,,1492434103 121544689,121549070,2017-04-17 13:02:58,">>121547867 who builds them now?",,Anonymous,1491153054679.jpg,W9H3QZj+JR2rJ1WdqnC50w==,GB,,1492434178 121544689,121549097,2017-04-17 13:03:11,"I'm a centrist according to spekr, is that libertarian enough?",,Anonymous,,,MY,,1492434191 121544689,121549211,2017-04-17 13:04:16,>selling out your national sovereignty for shekels,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434256 121544689,121549305,2017-04-17 13:05:02,">>121549097 Yes welcome to libertarianism, in order to reach the city we need to ride this helicopter above the walls, please follow me.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492434302 121544689,121549346,2017-04-17 13:05:19,">>121549097 >asking websites what your political position is",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434319 121544689,121549493,2017-04-17 13:06:42,">>121549097 >Centrist >On fucking spekr Nigger if you aren't an ancap on spekr you're a pinko commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434402 121544689,121549568,2017-04-17 13:07:18,">>121544689 pretty quiet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434438 121544689,121549626,2017-04-17 13:07:38,,,Anonymous,1492396440333.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1492434458 121544689,121549650,2017-04-17 13:07:45,">>121548941 Im talking about buildings with no commercial purpose like the Eiffel tower, statue of liberty, etc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434465 121544689,121549676,2017-04-17 13:07:56,,,Anonymous,1492396468262.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,US,,1492434476 121544689,121549711,2017-04-17 13:08:15,">>121549097 i mean spekr can be a bit inaccurate - i strongly agreed that we should abolish the state, and got this you sound like a tankie though",,Anonymous,i_support_abolishing_the_state_tho.png,+JKUtYF//XD3nKJqY0RjEQ==,GB,,1492434495 121544689,121549712,2017-04-17 13:08:15,,,Anonymous,1492396492581.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,US,,1492434495 121544689,121549747,2017-04-17 13:08:34,,,Anonymous,1492396523789.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,US,,1492434514 121544689,121549791,2017-04-17 13:08:54,,,Anonymous,1492396548626.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,US,,1492434534 121544689,121549836,2017-04-17 13:09:16,,,Anonymous,1492396591663.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,US,,1492434556 121544689,121549870,2017-04-17 13:09:34,,,Anonymous,1492395637115.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,US,,1492434574 121544689,121549906,2017-04-17 13:09:52,,,Anonymous,1492395609265.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,US,,1492434592 121544689,121549913,2017-04-17 13:09:54,">>121547366 That image is pure retardation. You seem to think that you can't obtain ""the means of production"" yourself and use it for the good of your people. ""Public"" ownership of resources leads to short sightedness-horde all I can while it's available to me mentality. Private owners want to their resources to grow so they can pass it down to their family and as so results in future oriented investment, and responsibly. You can't call yourself a traditionalist And oppose private property you degenerate scumbag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434594 121544689,121549935,2017-04-17 13:10:10,,,Anonymous,1492395535547.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,US,,1492434610 121544689,121549964,2017-04-17 13:10:21,">>121549650 Built by private companies or fundraisers.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492434621 121544689,121550014,2017-04-17 13:10:52,"that's all i got folks god bless",,Anonymous,1492394243082.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1492434652 121544689,121550022,2017-04-17 13:10:56,">>121549650 >No commercial purpose If by that you mean millions of visitors every month.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492434656 121544689,121550049,2017-04-17 13:11:03,">>121549346 Ehh, I've never been really vocal politically. I'm just drifting in life, just going on day-by-day. I know that Centrism is what my government is using so I guess I'm a happy lad. >>121549493 >I was a commie in middle school I even learned cyrillic >>121549711 Eh, I didn't like Stalin. More toTrotsky though",,Anonymous,,,MY,,1492434663 121544689,121550081,2017-04-17 13:11:19,">>121549650 >no commercial purpose Whoever wants to build those can build them with whatever resources they have on the land they own. This is a petty matter.",,Anonymous,Recreational Nukem.png,DvoV9/FztdxLjL3NFG0npA==,US,,1492434679 121544689,121550336,2017-04-17 13:13:10,">>121549650 You are aware the Eiffel Tower had(s) an entry fee which was specifically designed to pay for the cost of the building that the State wouldn't pay for? So your best example is one which was built and paid for by private individuals without state involvement.",,Anonymous,1492172670351.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,GB,,1492434790 121544689,121550384,2017-04-17 13:13:37,">>121544689 THIS MAN ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE LIST OF LIBERTARIAN PEPES RALPH RAICO: HISTORIAN OF THE LIBERTARIANS >RAICO LECTURES >History of the industrial revolution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXj6tnvdZA >Liberalism defined https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pND9IZGFQlY >Intellectual against the market https://mises.org/library/intellectuals-against-market >The life and work of Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/library/life-and-work-ludwig-von-mises-3 >Classical liberalism of war and peace https://mises.org/library/classical-liberalism-war-and-peace >The Classical Liberal Theory of Empire https://mises.org/library/classical-liberal-theory-empire Quote [emphasis mine]: >Liberalism did not emerge full blown nor did it undergo a metamorphosis into a caricature of itself. But it did evolve. I'm not offering any argument that liberalism sprang up at a certain point complete, fully matured. Neither can liberalism can be approached -- as some people do -- as a conversation conducted among philosophers over the centuries. Instead, liberalism must be understood, I think, as a political and social doctrine and a movement GROUNDED IN THE DISTINCTIVE CULTURE AND TRACEABLE TO SPECIFIC HISTORICAL CONDITION. THAT CULTURE IS THE WEST. A EUROPE THAT ROSE IN COMMUNION WITH THE BISHOP OF ROME. THE HISTORICAL CONDITIONS WERE THOSE OF THE MIDDLE AGES. THE HISTORY OF LIBERALISM IS ROOTED IN WHAT ECONOMIC HISTORIANS CALL ""THE EUROPEAN MIRACLE"". Historicist libertarians master race.",,Anonymous,Ralph Raico 2005.jpg,0RLqG1mObGyzQkQQBJAUlg==,CA,,1492434817 121544689,121550469,2017-04-17 13:14:26,">>121550022 True, I didn't think about that However, there will be free-loaders who can view the site without paying",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434866 121544689,121550576,2017-04-17 13:15:18,>>121549913,,Anonymous,2c7f5fad51adbf8c1dabb5b1b46c7a04a7f17c354bd77b2462e14958e93546f6.jpg,1RiSlUKivXAmMnzG7OhoTg==,CA,,1492434918 121544689,121550710,2017-04-17 13:16:18,">>121550576 >Leaf Who would've thought",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434978 121544689,121550711,2017-04-17 13:16:18,">>121550469 At a distance with those mounted binoculars for 50¢ a minute",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434978 121544689,121550752,2017-04-17 13:16:32,">>121547366 Consumerism is a modern attempt at mind control to whip out free will of human beings and create a slave race. Goyim, golems. At first it was tribal violence, then religion, then government, then fiat currencies, and now consumerism. Obviously society fully aware of the moral natural laws of creation wouldn't have provoked the person who made that picture/post to make that picture/post. Its about the quality of the culture, not the magical whims and dictates of the state. You must understand, or stand under the problem. Government is a external representation of the people's collective knowledge of natural moral laws. Morality and Freedom are immutably linked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492434992 121544689,121551001,2017-04-17 13:18:24,">>121550576 Then you're a capitalist, a shitty high time preference capitalist with no sense of investment. But a capitalist none the less. Looks like you'll have to gas yourself this time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435104 121544689,121551201,2017-04-17 13:20:03,">>121550336 Alright, here's another one Public goods like fireworks and lighthouses, things that can be used without paying for. Why pay for it when you can get the same satisfaction when someone else pays for it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435203 121544689,121551222,2017-04-17 13:20:14,">>121550576 How do you decide what the common good is? What if someone believes in a different kind of common good than others?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435214 121544689,121551368,2017-04-17 13:21:29,">>121551222 give an example",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492435289 121544689,121551415,2017-04-17 13:21:49,">>121550469 True, but so do people pirate music and yet they see the concerts live. Seeing the concert live in this case would be paying for a guided tour of the inside, around, etc.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492435309 121544689,121551464,2017-04-17 13:22:14,">>121544689 Hey my boys",,Anonymous,image.jpg,v1Qh/ZEDuIngc7xRt2VBuA==,FR,,1492435334 121544689,121551554,2017-04-17 13:23:01,">>121550752 Freedom to consume? Freedom to stuff your face with big macs while you wank to HBO? that's not freedom",,Anonymous,1487812963714.gif,/87d9Fb4PMwK7agtjf0G3A==,CA,,1492435381 121544689,121551649,2017-04-17 13:23:52,">>121551201 Don't you usually control the space from which these can be launched and admired? You make people pay for the physical spot. Other people can watch from afar but it's won't be as good.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492435432 121544689,121551711,2017-04-17 13:24:22,">>121551001 socialism is regulating capitalism to ensure that race, culture, health, and the environment are not harmed.",,Anonymous,gorillion.png,UG6q7j2FSlKdo9O3BCZm1g==,CA,,1492435462 121544689,121551770,2017-04-17 13:24:51,">>121551368 You first need to provide a definition of common good. Who decides this definition? Why are they justified in deciding that definition? What happens to those that disagree and dissent with the definition?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435491 121544689,121551837,2017-04-17 13:25:23,">>121551554 >Freedom to stuff your face with big macs while you wank to HBO? Sure standing in front of an angry manlet in shorts only for aestetics is real freedom",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492435523 121544689,121551846,2017-04-17 13:25:27,">>121551368 I think the common good would be producing border walls around my people's territory, some socialist thinks the common good is letting Muslims into those walls by the millions. Saying ""the common good"" is meaningless.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435527 121544689,121551920,2017-04-17 13:26:06,">>121551554 >Freedom to consume? Freedom to stuff your face with big macs while you wank to HBO? >that's not freedom Freedom does not reside in any one particular choice being made but in the fact that a person can make these choices if he so wish. Authoritarian vermin always try to say ""that's not real freedom"" precisely so that they can take freedom away from people. If you wish, I can also arbitrarily define freedom specifically for the purpose of preventing you from doing something I don't like. >admiring national socialism? >that's not real freedom >real freedom means only liking social democracy Fag.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492435566 121544689,121551938,2017-04-17 13:26:15,">>121551201 >like fireworks In the UK we have Guy Fawkes night. During this festival, most households will hold their own fireworks display. Sure externalities exist - but I'm not sure what your point is. >lighthouses Whilst an extremely outdated example, in similar situations, those that need the protection/lights will pay for it. In England again, privately owned lighthouses existed. If you want to read literature on it, read ""The Lighthouse in Economics"" by Ronald Coase. Coase Theorum if you want to learn more.",,Anonymous,1491850050790.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,GB,,1492435575 121544689,121551987,2017-04-17 13:26:40,">>121551770 i don't see how anyone could disagree that colacola and burgerking should be shut down or that the pornography industry should be prohibited",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492435600 121544689,121552110,2017-04-17 13:27:40,">>121551201 Chapter 1 of Economics and Ethics of Private Property details the fallacies of the public goods theory.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492435660 121544689,121552118,2017-04-17 13:27:45,">>121551846 Ok then, ""what is in the best interests of our people"" common good within the context of your people, not for everyone and everyone",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492435665 121544689,121552155,2017-04-17 13:28:01,">>121551711 >socialism is regulating capitalism to ensure that race, culture, health, and the environment are not harmed. So this guy is the savior of the white race ?",,Anonymous,image.jpg,9PjbgiC+eud0bHxxHkSs+g==,FR,,1492435681 121544689,121552171,2017-04-17 13:28:10,">>121551987 Your bait is weakening every post you make.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435690 121544689,121552265,2017-04-17 13:28:55,">>121545181 My family is pretty based. We watched the Hoppe lecture on YouTube while playing pool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435735 121544689,121552289,2017-04-17 13:29:06,">>121552110 >>121551938 Thanks, I'm just playing devil's advocate because I'm still a little skeptical lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435746 121544689,121552325,2017-04-17 13:29:28,>>121551987,,Anonymous,no-step-on-fesh.jpg,h+BJ8Gu5jg+oCXw1qVb2Hw==,US,,1492435768 121544689,121552352,2017-04-17 13:29:39,">>121551987 Except precisely those people who do consume those things. I rarely accuse people to live in a bubble but how in the fuck do you manage to say that no one could disagree with abolishing something which is being consumed freely by people at this very instant? >>121552110 Include based Raico in the libertarian Pepe senpai. >>121550384",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492435779 121544689,121552433,2017-04-17 13:30:15,">>121551987 >i don't see how anyone could disagree that colacola and burgerking should be shut down >or that the pornography industry should be prohibited The average normie would disagree with this kind of ideas retard",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492435815 121544689,121552487,2017-04-17 13:30:41,">>121551711 Redefining terms doesn't make you a socialist. Your an authoritarian Capitalist. You're a capitalist that only wants to defend white owned property. Socialists are opposed to private property. It's not your fault Hitler was economically illiterate. He didn't know what capitalism actually implied but that doesn't mean you can't learn.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435841 121544689,121552507,2017-04-17 13:30:52,">>121552289 I personally am not an an-cap. I still believe the state has basic functions (protection of citizens, border, judicial court of law) - but my politics are that I want to be left the fuck alone and allowed to enter voluntary contracts in respect to what I do in my life. Stop ruling me.",,Anonymous,1491751225858.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,GB,,1492435852 121544689,121552582,2017-04-17 13:31:40,"Fun fact The state doesn't even exist. Just morons who claim they represent ""the state"" exist. It all depends on you being gaslit into accepting their aggression",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435900 121544689,121552699,2017-04-17 13:32:31,">>121552507 I believe protection if citizens can be privatized, as with courts. I'm still on the fence about immigration and national defense",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435951 121544689,121552771,2017-04-17 13:33:04,">>121552699 Of*, phoneposting blows cock",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492435984 121544689,121552779,2017-04-17 13:33:08,">>121551987 You're right leaf, but the state isn't the answer. The problem lies in the people in the first place, going to the state isn't going to fix it. Besides, most governments are ran by black mailing pedophile, blood drinking, raping, murderous psychopaths who will end up banning gardens and forcing everyone to have mixed children. Authority is an illusion. Order followers are human trash. >Refer to the picture This is how reality is manifested. If, for example you believe McDonald's and CocaCola are a problem, why don't you start a public campaign against them and offer a better alternative? Like your own brand of flavored water or something? Because you don't actually care, deep down inside you have mommy and daddy issues, and you want the government to take care of you and force onto everyone else your problems so you are not alone.",,Anonymous,trivium quadrivium.jpg,b+1l02ntKAk7qUMzDsezAQ==,US,,1492435988 121544689,121552826,2017-04-17 13:33:32,">>121552507 >literally me We're non dogmatic libertarian. (I don't use dogmatic in some pejorative sense.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492436012 121544689,121552957,2017-04-17 13:34:31,">>121552582 >inb4 some fag talks about social contract Never signed a sheet of paper where I sacrifice my freedoms fucking Rousseaufags",,Anonymous,image.jpg,8N3GhMZukV6NNa/nm4/73w==,FR,,1492436071 121544689,121552986,2017-04-17 13:34:46,,,Anonymous,slavery.jpg,p5M6av1cG2CPFW3QmZAAtw==,US,,1492436086 121544689,121553057,2017-04-17 13:35:23,,,Anonymous,11406276_10155799571990360_4132018133430363692_o.jpg,XUdBLYH+kXxBlzFwnsc1ZA==,US,,1492436123 121544689,121553159,2017-04-17 13:36:21,">>121552699 Agreed 100%. Private police are already a thing and are already better than US Border Patrol at making sure the only people allowed in (a building) are the people who are allowed in the building. Private businesses already make all our arms and armor and we already have private contractor soldiers, it's not too hard to add the 2 together. We have freedom of contract protected as a Constitutional right for a reason, and it's because citizens are better at taking care of themselves or contracting people to do it for them.",,Anonymous,1487660941335.png,ykHFbthDnLhRvGSIsOkb2g==,US,,1492436181 121544689,121553186,2017-04-17 13:36:38,">>121552699 >>121552826 The endgoal is probably full ancap in an ideal world. But in this day and age I don't think its possible, and the 'state' can probablyish do a better job than the free market.",,Anonymous,1492365284952.jpg,71/yJ74HBA9n0kRqway2ww==,GB,,1492436198 121544689,121553194,2017-04-17 13:36:40,">>121552118 The best interest of our people implies exclusivity, and ownership. That's capitalism. The best for everyone is inclusive to everyone and implicitly egalitarian and Socialist. You just need to relearn your terms. Hitler isn't a good teacher for economic understanding. Literally no one goes by his economic terminology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492436200 121544689,121553368,2017-04-17 13:38:03,">>121549070 Texanon here, just want to say the biggest road in the world is a tolled freeway in Houston, TX. (I-10 Freeway). Ever heard of a toll? Now you have roads, and better maintained than the shit you want.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492436283 121544689,121553530,2017-04-17 13:39:30,">>121544689 eyy faggot newsflash anarchy and communism don't mix well cuckboi >pic unrelated",,Anonymous,aVqmpjO_460s.jpg,oyfs63+32tSVPFklLufG8A==,GE,,1492436370 121544689,121553759,2017-04-17 13:41:13,">>121553530 How did you get that flag and why is it not the flag of Georgia? How do I get a Texas flag, I saw another guy with it but he spoke Spanish... I guess that makes sense though...",,Anonymous,1486018751568.jpg,ulvCqtKvjfQKwX82Cn9gOQ==,US,,1492436473 121544689,121553863,2017-04-17 13:42:05,">>121547167 >bread Commie lies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492436525 121544689,121554648,2017-04-17 13:48:15,">>121553759 its not the Georgia state it is Georgia country. trust me it is boring af,but we are close to Russia so we got nice vodka here c: prob going to be moving out soon no good opportunities in science fields",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1492436895 121544689,121554875,2017-04-17 13:50:09,">>121553530 >go to jewgle >word etymology >communism >from french >common: belonging equally to >ism: state or condition of >communism: a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. >word etymology >anarchy >from latin >an: without or absence of >archon: ruler, master, or king >a state of society without government whereby the populace is informed of and adheres to natural law and objective moral integrity really ponders the mind",,Anonymous,natural law.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,US,,1492437009 121544689,121555002,2017-04-17 13:51:12,">>121554648 What is your opinion on the self-proclaimed nations of Abkhazia and South Ossetia that occupy your country's borders? Do they / Should they have the right to secede as they have?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492437072 121544689,121555008,2017-04-17 13:51:15,">>121552507 https://mises.org/library/libertarian-case-monarchy We can do it friendo.",,Anonymous,1490631345819.jpg,4glnMIdnjoSvj8Ina0seEw==,GB,,1492437075 121544689,121555055,2017-04-17 13:51:32,,,Anonymous,1492097028103.jpg,FTlYYlfL2YqFGdkXBDAFxQ==,US,,1492437092 121544689,121555160,2017-04-17 13:52:21,">>121554648 The post was made ironically to point out that mistaking Georgia the state for Georgia the country is analogous to mistaking the black-yellow flag of anarcho-capitalism for the black-red flag of anarcho-communism. Black is anarchy, yellow is capitalism, red is communism. Yellow+Black != communism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492437141 121544689,121555313,2017-04-17 13:53:34,">>121546493 this right here is why the ""w-why can't we be friends"" meme will never work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492437214 121544689,121555564,2017-04-17 13:55:38,">>121555002 they have not gotten the international recognition. so technically they can't secede according to what I learned in human geography,but those fags can go fuck themselves if they want to be alone let em.",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1492437338 121544689,121555633,2017-04-17 13:56:15,">>121555160 Ur a witty cunt I'll give you that",,Anonymous,1489112416608.jpg,LE6jqb8yWH2NRW22EAm4OQ==,GB,,1492437375 121544689,121555747,2017-04-17 13:57:04,"ahh my people STATISTS GET OUT",,swaglord,,,US,,1492437424 121544689,121556087,2017-04-17 13:59:39,">>121555747 I was rooting for south carolina bud, I thought you had the zags",,Anonymous,1488931557281.png,afeILQgCc9or6GqUOLdVCQ==,US,,1492437579 121544689,121556137,2017-04-17 13:59:59,">>121555633 Wit + Autism makes for a the modern day Cassandra. You see the world burning around you, but the most you can do is poke fun at the burn victims. t. sad pepe.jpg",,Anonymous,1487602370859.jpg,cd7GE9196HlWQD4amEg9Qw==,US,,1492437599 121544689,121556648,2017-04-17 14:03:47,">>121544689 >Leftists don't understand economics >World's most successful investor is leftist Pick one.",,Anonymous,George Soros.jpg,nplYmd4FLgZqMrxTgNIuRg==,US,,1492437827 121544689,121556901,2017-04-17 14:05:48,">>121546918 >Libertarian thread, posts AnCap memes Never fucking change you chumps",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492437948 121544689,121556910,2017-04-17 14:05:53,">>121556648 Not the world's most successful investor, that would be this guy => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett Still a lefty, but he's not (((their guy))).",,Anonymous,1485390853039.jpg,7S3k2Gbyv8zFVGybP/XxbA==,US,,1492437953 121544689,121557276,2017-04-17 14:08:40,">>121556910 There is nothing wrong with based Buffet.",,Anonymous,warren-buffett-the-rich-are-always-going-to-say-that-you-know-just-give-us-more-money-and-well-go-out-and-spend-more-and-then-it-will-all-trickle-down-to-the-rest-of-you-but-that-has-no.jpg,IXTKJbiN9qPtKxMtBTcEiw==,US,,1492438120 121544689,121557509,2017-04-17 14:10:45,">>121555633 Man's gotta eat.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492438245 121544689,121557684,2017-04-17 14:12:00,">>121557276 Based Buffett was pre-2000. Buffett after 2008 has been an Obama puppet, and honestly it's regrettable because I've always held him as one of the greatest American investment legends and businessmen. Thankfully I've still got my main man, Monty Burns.",,Anonymous,excellent.jpg,chQp/QxPTD6sR2qstHo6CA==,US,,1492438320 121544689,121558288,2017-04-17 14:16:59,">>121550336 >get in child you're parents sold you to me Gotta love ancaps",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492438619 121544689,121558638,2017-04-17 14:19:43,">>121553159 >private arms manufacturers >produces arms for both sides >both sides genocide each other this isn't even my final form",,Anonymous,1475718479524.png,xNueBqql89nqzogJWQ4XTw==,CA,,1492438783 121544689,121559268,2017-04-17 14:24:15,">>121558638 I know.",,Anonymous,howtodealwithjews.jpg,ecwCTQf3OQ8DE/jxn52Q3Q==,US,,1492439055 121544689,121559869,2017-04-17 14:28:25,">>121556910 >>121557276 Pretty sure Bill Gates has surpassed him",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492439305 121659247,121659247,2017-04-18 04:47:46,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for the discussion of capitalism, libertarianism, anarcho-capitalism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Anti-Communist Action.png,quvKx2DlSvA0SyLrVFEdjg==,AU,,1492490866 121659247,121659257,2017-04-18 04:47:54,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492490874 121659247,121659275,2017-04-18 04:48:12,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492490892 121659247,121659326,2017-04-18 04:49:01,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492490941 121659247,121659348,2017-04-18 04:49:19,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492490959 121659247,121659393,2017-04-18 04:49:56,"This is a good thread. Sadly I am studying for finals and can't participate, but here's a free bump.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1492490996 121659247,121659974,2017-04-18 04:58:29,">>121659247 Bumpin, I'd like to see the website expanded. I like the idea of a non /pol/ house for the info dump. Easier to spread to normies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492491509 121659247,121661663,2017-04-18 05:20:35,bunp,,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1492492835 121659247,121661669,2017-04-18 05:20:37,">>121659247 Bumping for fuck communists and cultural Marxists. >pic related New up and coming propaganda for Leftist shithole universities",,Anonymous,preview (4).jpg,4SGnxO6ZjSePhBKxRrPzZA==,GB,,1492492837 121659247,121661687,2017-04-18 05:20:58,>>121661669,,Anonymous,preview (2).jpg,ZRhHLlsN0/tolV8m5NzDHA==,GB,,1492492858 121659247,121661803,2017-04-18 05:22:20,">>121661669 I want to see Berkeley tier fights here in the UK. 'Keep calm and carry on' is a psyop, time to get mad",,Anonymous,preview (3).jpg,TkpKYDoYHn1NmuLblSjuvg==,GB,,1492492940 121659247,121661873,2017-04-18 05:23:25,Gay.,,Anonymous,4f39678ac9ce2806c6a741cda73450305ac9a228f6cd5301318968cee664be48.jpg,Awc1gBKPMQDUvZiGXV5h+g==,GB,,1492493005 121659247,121661964,2017-04-18 05:24:40,">>121661873 >tv license",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492493080 121659247,121662067,2017-04-18 05:26:02,">>121661873 >>121661803 >>121661687 >>121661669 Killing communists is THE most libertarian thing you can do. prove me wrong.",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1492493162 121659247,121662289,2017-04-18 05:29:00,">>121661873 >Killed the LP party so johnson had 0% chance of winning and getting trump in How about that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492493340 121659247,121662499,2017-04-18 05:31:57,">>121662067 >Fascist memetic warfare http://archive.is/M86q9",,Anonymous,16295980_10208515641948711_1450567410_n.jpg,mcL3/N/E79ZruGdhimYgDw==,GB,,1492493517 121659247,121662531,2017-04-18 05:32:24,,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1492493544 121659247,121662705,2017-04-18 05:34:47,,,Anonymous,84b26d806e21f9f152a07fc86a0c875ab968b863.png,nGx1wXNubIJfjSHyjIJGxg==,US,,1492493687 121659247,121662996,2017-04-18 05:38:23,,,Anonymous,29de2fa25daf6bb27d5f6031386b319c6aa81d6a.jpg,QQk9m1AguyS3VihabqFgTQ==,US,,1492493903 121659247,121663262,2017-04-18 05:42:01,,,Anonymous,xtxemnazk5ly.gif,mxQmDsPGsIWu1Hmpa66joA==,GB,,1492494121 121659247,121664498,2017-04-18 05:57:37,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1492495057 121659247,121664629,2017-04-18 05:59:05,">>121662996 >capitalism is bad >feminism is good >jews are good",,Anonymous,confused nick young.jpg,khkorg7A/XNBrtzF8cLglQ==,AU,,1492495145 121659247,121664831,2017-04-18 06:01:29,">>121659247 Finished democracy the god that failed What should be the next step ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492495289 121659247,121665166,2017-04-18 06:05:03,">>121664831 Im not done with it myself but i assume ""what must be done"" would be the next step.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492495503 121659247,121667560,2017-04-18 06:28:27,,,Anonymous,FUCK_REDDIT.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1492496907 121659247,121667615,2017-04-18 06:29:01,Don't tread on me Darling-kun >_,,Anonymous,Don't tread on Miia.png,y9OxDpmDX/4PHH/mEq80fA==,PT,,1492496941 121659247,121669479,2017-04-18 06:49:55,"Wew lads, snap election called in the UK >tfw no Libertarian Right party Closest is UKIP I presume",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492498195 121659247,121670339,2017-04-18 06:59:07,">>121662499 where did you get those stickers?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492498747 121659247,121671020,2017-04-18 07:06:05,">>121662499 Mosley did nothing wrong https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492513413987.webm https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492513483991.webm",,Anonymous,Oswald Mosley.jpg,GjBdh4zLlAxIn66JG/xsfg==,PT,,1492499165 121659247,121672762,2017-04-18 07:24:50,I can't stick around but have a Bump,,Anonymous,nuke.png,z4xfUokDWBUAtYIWnzcE6A==,US,,1492500290 121825400,121825400,2017-04-19 05:25:53,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: What role does tribalism/traditionalism play edition,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,GB,,1492579553 121825400,121825509,2017-04-19 05:27:39,,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492579659 121825400,121825748,2017-04-19 05:30:58,,,Anonymous,1491690706678.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,GB,,1492579858 121825400,121825971,2017-04-19 05:34:36,"I like the edition, anyone have any good reason on it? I like to think most of us are cultural traditionalists",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492580076 121825400,121826147,2017-04-19 05:37:11,,,Anonymous,1491702694901.jpg,fvM+ntAxcVlyq379XrOXjg==,GB,,1492580231 121825400,121826214,2017-04-19 05:38:01,">>121825971 >reasons Should be reading",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492580281 121825400,121826367,2017-04-19 05:40:14,">>121826214 I have nothing A quick google brings up this https://libertarianheathen.com/2017/04/17/on-libertarianism-tribalism-and-nationalism/",,Anonymous,1492369188411.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,GB,,1492580414 121825400,121826684,2017-04-19 05:44:26,">>121826367 Thanks I'll check it out",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492580666 121825400,121827020,2017-04-19 05:49:06,">>121826684 I'm reading it but the layout of the website is disgusting, text is too big and what not",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492580946 121825400,121827111,2017-04-19 05:50:23,">>121825400 Yuck yuck yuck yuck >>>/out/",,Anonymous,1492259103231.png,vmEPdbwIGxutgkeaIxz81A==,AU,,1492581023 121825400,121827176,2017-04-19 05:51:22,">>121825400 Too many retards in the world for libertarianism to work. I'm sorry it's true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492581082 121825400,121827239,2017-04-19 05:52:10,"In ancap society, what makes you think I will respect your NAP when you have to rely on not getting killed first? I'll kill you and take your property like everyone else",,Anonymous,1487225042396.png,kjxG5pZi8rfGx7fntWJbJw==,FI,,1492581130 121825400,121827241,2017-04-19 05:52:11,">>121827111 >those digits",,Anonymous,1491683273326.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,GB,,1492581131 121825400,121827282,2017-04-19 05:52:52,">>121827176 They won't even follow NAP. Only hope is in future when start colonizing planets.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492581172 121825400,121827431,2017-04-19 05:55:05,">>121827239 >one finnish man is going to murder the entire world and not be stopped, forever Another entry into the ""imaginary, hypothetical, ancap world"" diary.",,Anonymous,1491751225858.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,GB,,1492581305 121825400,121827560,2017-04-19 05:57:05,">>121827176 >Too many retards in the world Libertarian societies can enforce their own borders and rules so you are kept apart from these retards you speak of. >>121827282 >won't even follow NAP Then they will all be given helicopter rides",,Anonymous,1491844924102.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,GB,,1492581425 121825400,121827575,2017-04-19 05:57:15,">>121827431 I didn't say I'm going to murder everyone, dumbass. I'm saying why the fuck would I trust anyone at all? Literally nobody except couple autists are going to respect NAP, I'm making sure I'm not going to get killed right away",,Anonymous,e40.png,Pjo62dIYv0ETiFtG32bYPQ==,FI,,1492581435 121825400,121827791,2017-04-19 06:00:34,">>121825400 Isn't it immoral to dominate society just because of your birth status?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492581634 121825400,121827800,2017-04-19 06:00:42,">>121827241 Exactly. Rand wants you to leave",,Anonymous,1492485077492.jpg,KkBJesZnNo79VrArjtEuMA==,AU,,1492581642 121825400,121827814,2017-04-19 06:00:56,">>121827575 Are you in a constant state of distrust unless there is a police officer or 'state official' around 24/7? >no one follows the rules of the roads >i could get driven into at any time, by anyone, anywhere >bet start ramming my car into the nearest pedestrian Your argument makes no sense. No one is going to go around killing everyone ""in case they die first"". Personally I advocate for a smaller state, which only enforces the rule of law, defense, protection of citizens, and a judicial court of law. Thats all the state needs to provide.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492581656 121825400,121827897,2017-04-19 06:02:29,"tribalism, plays a role without a doubt mate. Cucked libertarians may say that people forming homogeneous communites are bad because they have to prove themselves to be ""supreme individualists"" or whatever. I think thats bullshit and a truely libertarian society MUST be homogeneous in order to have a social order that respects and works together voluntarily. People sharing the same values and culture is just good for civilization in general. which is why lefties, liberals faggots and junkies and other moral relativists need to be ostrasized and removed to promote that homogeneity to have a functioning libertarian society.",,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1492581749 121825400,121827913,2017-04-19 06:02:48,">>121827575 This is /lrg/ not /ancap/ or /1800sAfrica/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492581768 121825400,121828215,2017-04-19 06:07:49,">>121827791 Isn't it immoral to dominate society just because of your birth status? No, why would it be immoral for a homogeneous community to promote its values, while disincentivizing those that are against their values? >>121827575 >why the fuck would I trust anyone at all? because thats what adults do in a civilized society, they form communities and work together to acheive their goals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492582069 121825400,121828412,2017-04-19 06:11:05,">>121827897 I agree, I've just been having a hard time recently balancing the varying realms of technological advancement, cultural traditionalism and right libertarianism that I stand for. I spend a lot of my days and nights thinking about it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492582265 121825400,121828587,2017-04-19 06:13:42,"FIX FUGGIN PAST EBIN REEEEEEE bump for day of the economics lesson",,Snek,economics 101.jpg,yhwDw3X2EiayGAKQATqqKg==,SK,,1492582422 121825400,121828623,2017-04-19 06:14:12,">>121828215 But within that society someone born of lesser intelligence, lower motivation or within a poor family would be disadvantaged through no fault of there own. Doesn't there have to be some form of redistribution or is it just bad fucking luck?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492582452 121825400,121829029,2017-04-19 06:20:24,">>121828623 Charitiy dude, get your stupid broke ass to church. >>121828412 I dont think its that much of a balancing act. Traditionalism and Libertarianism go great together. What's your issue? that you might need to use force to maintain a socially conservative society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492582824 121825400,121829145,2017-04-19 06:22:22,">>121828623 There are always advantages, some are way more subtle but as powerful as money. Truth is, when you have nothing and you're asked where would you want to live, you always chose the place that has more wealth because the class-elevator works way better, countries that engage redistribution are compromising this class-elevator by allocating resources poorly.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492582942 121825400,121829401,2017-04-19 06:26:22,">>121828587 what's wrong with the pastebin? I can edit it.",,Anonymous,Hmmm.png,28cLQpYxKTNPNOr26GXcew==,US,,1492583182 121825400,121829685,2017-04-19 06:30:59,">>121828623 >someone born of lesser intelligence, lower motivation or within a poor family would be disadvantaged through no fault of there own This inevitability happens in every society. Redistribution through forced taxation is not the answer, either ideologically, morally, and empirically.",,Anonymous,1491858324926.jpg,ApKrxOgYzshgjCuInDR1vw==,GB,,1492583459 121825400,121829807,2017-04-19 06:33:07,">>121829401 It's incomplete. Add all this shit in the OP and subseqyent posts to it.",,Snek,,,SK,,1492583587 121825400,121829899,2017-04-19 06:34:47,">>121829029 It's more that unforced globalism and increasing interdependence and interconnectedness, through technology, naturally bludgeons traditionalism. For me it seems an inevitability. I pray I'm wrong, and that we can use technology to better our own traditions and cultures. Here's a good example of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkVAO4vrsUA In fact at one point he states how he knows his ancestors made mistakes, and modern technology allows him to rectify for them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492583687 121825400,121830200,2017-04-19 06:40:01,">>121829029 Really? Like charity has ever come close to fixing poverty.. Even the largest welfare states can't do it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492584001 121825400,121830296,2017-04-19 06:41:37,">>121829685 Not saying taxation and welfare is the answer but libertarian ideology isn't going to solve the issue.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492584097 121825400,121830424,2017-04-19 06:43:55,">>121828623 >someone born of lesser intelligence, lower motivation or within a poor family would be disadvantaged through no fault of there own That's luck, and there is *NOTHING MORALLY WRONG WITH LUCK*. All moral affairs are about people's actions in regard to one another - there is nothing morally wrong about Sven being born in the slums while Josef is born in the suburbs.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492584235 121825400,121830563,2017-04-19 06:45:52,">>121829807 you mean the reading list posts? that's why we got the >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ if you prefer them be made into posts thats fine I can do that. >>121830200 alright then genius, how do we ""fix"" stupid, lazy, and poor people issue? I guess you could force them to do labor or conscript them into your army and then pay them for their work. yeah, slavery is the answer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492584352 121825400,121830606,2017-04-19 06:46:32,">>121830296 As the poster below you points out, inequality is a natural state of being. Only the individual can fix it in the long-term. In the same vain that poverty ""measures"" are relative rather than absolute. >>121830200 - no one born into the West is born into absolute poverty. Relative, maybe, but that's not a non-measure.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492584392 121825400,121830661,2017-04-19 06:47:23,">>121829145 The issue is when a society eventually consolidates it's classes through natural methods, i.e. the families with lower intelligence and personality traits unsuitable to being competitive in that society will always end up at the bottom. This is happening now, class movement is insignificant to the amount of people trying.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492584443 121825400,121830695,2017-04-19 06:47:50,">>121830200 Because welfare states operate on theft, you mong.",,Snek,,,SK,,1492584470 121825400,121830723,2017-04-19 06:48:10,">>121825400 Feels good seing these threads",,Anonymous,image.jpg,8v/h8RQVF/67xIxz0gwOgA==,FR,,1492584490 121825400,121830791,2017-04-19 06:49:05,">>121830723 You're voting for Fillon ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492584545 121825400,121830834,2017-04-19 06:49:49,>>121830723,,Anonymous,banner2.png,n2u/XBVvDEi9OiYWwmtLrA==,GB,,1492584589 121825400,121830857,2017-04-19 06:50:09,">>121830791 >be ancap >voting Pick one",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492584609 121825400,121830901,2017-04-19 06:50:50,">>121830424 Do you DESERVE a higher standard of living because of luck?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492584650 121825400,121830910,2017-04-19 06:51:01,">>121830857 That's dumb.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492584661 121825400,121830963,2017-04-19 06:51:45,">>121830296 The issue of inequality is solved by throwing acid to your face when you're a kid if you're too pretty, schooling all of you under the state to avoid positive paternal influences, hitting in the head those that show to be smarter, locking you up for a while if you are too social, and even then you will never achieve true equality because it is impossible. Since equality is impossible, what we libertarians want is the ability to climb socially from 0 to the top, and Capitalist countries have demonstrated a higher capability for this. By redistributing and trying to correct natural inequalities, what you are doing is taking away resources from those who multiply them while giving them to those who divide them. This misallocation of resources compromises future wealth, and therefore screws up class movement. >class movement is insignificant to the amount of people trying. Yet higher than in any other point in history, specially in Capitalist countries.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492584705 121825400,121830992,2017-04-19 06:52:17,">>121830563 well socialism is the answer",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492584737 121825400,121831064,2017-04-19 06:53:14,">>121830910 Well his economic policies are nice Which is why french normies hate him And his societal policies would be nice if we were still in the 70's,in terms of demographics we're doomed",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492584794 121825400,121831116,2017-04-19 06:54:06,">>121830901 It's not about deserving anything. Nothing in life is about deserving anything. Not a single thing. It's about conducting oneself morally - it's not about outcomes. A starving Haitian who dies in an earthquake doesn't deserve to have their live snuffed, and neither does a rich Chinese kid deserve the experiences he enjoys. Outcomes have no moral quality - only acting human conduct does.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492584846 121825400,121831118,2017-04-19 06:54:09,">>121830606 I'm referring to the moral reasoning behind libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492584849 121825400,121831154,2017-04-19 06:54:46,">>121830695 no shit, I know what thread im posting in dickhead",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492584886 121825400,121831169,2017-04-19 06:55:00,">>121830661 You're implying that a) ""Class"" differential is an inherent 'issue' b) Individuals are unable to move between classes Both most suffice for your supposed inevitable-end-state but neither are true, so by default neither is your end-state. I personally was born into working-class, moved my way up to middle-class, but I have no desire to join the upper-class.",,Anonymous,1398766206662.jpg,RPGMNiJb9KLowx3QdH8Z1Q==,GB,,1492584900 121825400,121831218,2017-04-19 06:55:41,">>121829899 I get what your saying that our means to do things will never be ""traditional"" again, but technology is a tool. given purpose by man. It can be used to acheive a more traditional lifestyle, cant it? you really made me think, I'll have to look into it more. >>121830992 kek, you're a funny guy. Surely no one goes hungry in socialist societies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492584941 121825400,121831256,2017-04-19 06:56:14,">>121825400 Anarcho-Capitalst here. Question: In case we go to Mars, how do you divide the resources? Can you just claim them?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1492584974 121825400,121831283,2017-04-19 06:56:39,What I told you that helped to start Liberland?,,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1492584999 121825400,121831433,2017-04-19 06:58:45,">>121830901 >do you deserve a prettier girlfriend because you are born 4 inches higher >>121831256 Every man to get a broken snooker cue and fight it out.",,Anonymous,1491428093217.jpg,lbhaGVC+7+9OqzaY1jYGyA==,GB,,1492585125 121825400,121831452,2017-04-19 06:59:08,">>121831256 No, you gotta go get thems resources. you can't just say you own it. you need a claim to that property. maybe once you've mined minerals you can say your labor was used to attain that property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492585148 121825400,121831615,2017-04-19 07:01:07,">>121825400 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E put this in the OP, more important thank any link you have. thanks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492585267 121825400,121831732,2017-04-19 07:03:02,">>121831452 How do you get to own the property where you can dig for resources? How does that become your property?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1492585382 121825400,121832006,2017-04-19 07:06:55,">>121831732 Lockean principles, whoever has and uses a resource first has a better claim to it than a latecomer",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492585615 121825400,121832218,2017-04-19 07:09:59,">>121831732 ""First come first serve"" seems reasonable, given if there's nobody with a claim somewhere it can't even possibly injure someone else for you to claim something yourself.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492585799 121825400,121832472,2017-04-19 07:13:22,">>121831116 I guess we could go through the individualism vs collectivism debate",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492586002 121825400,121832596,2017-04-19 07:15:03,,,Anonymous,Mcfire.png,Zq0uGjcgUHq153vCHzc7WA==,GB,,1492586103 121825400,121832631,2017-04-19 07:15:37,">>121831154 Go read a book about how to cook one person to feed 4 others. Sacrifice my ass.",,Snek,,,SK,,1492586137 121825400,121832687,2017-04-19 07:16:22,">>121832472 Am I not correct in what I'd said? Moral states of affairs are between humans, and aren't concerned with outcomes. If you freeze any moment in time and simply describe things as they are - and not of how they came to be - you come up with no observations of any moral significance.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492586182 121825400,121832744,2017-04-19 07:17:05,">>121830963 What happens when we reach a post-scarcity situation (assuming the west isn't already there)? You can horde production means rather then distribute it?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492586225 121825400,121832749,2017-04-19 07:17:10,>>121832596,,Anonymous,94034938934.png,6zL/R0XkLE9M0K+E9UTkSg==,GB,,1492586230 121825400,121832895,2017-04-19 07:19:01,">>121831732 It's not property until it becomes property.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492586341 121825400,121832969,2017-04-19 07:19:59,">>121832687 What about someones inaction to help when they can? Morally neutral?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492586399 121825400,121833065,2017-04-19 07:21:16,">>121832631 Not sure what you're saying tripfag",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492586476 121825400,121833235,2017-04-19 07:23:27,">>121832744 Back in the day you had to work at least 14 hours/day and have lots of children to help if you wanted to maintain a farm that was able to provide just the basic amount of food. Innovations allowed us to reduce that to 12, suddenly we had exceeding food with 12 hours and we were able to trade this food for someone else's, and so we got specialization and Capitalism. A post-scarcity era will be one where a very little amount of work will be able to cover all of people's necessities, given that human necessities tend to infinite, I doubt we will reach that status any time soon. When Marx talked about a post-scarcity era he was referring to an era where nobody starved, we have already reached that, yet you see people discontent, why? Because food is only one of the million of necessities we as humans can potentially have, if the amount of necessities is infinite, then we can conclude that post-scarcity will never be reached.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492586607 121825400,121833393,2017-04-19 07:25:38,">>121832969 That's a tough (and actually good - which surprises me) question I've struggled with, to which the only conclusion I have is that there must necessarily be some context relevancy, given it's physically and temporally impossible to act in all circumstances where one could possibly aid another. We're materially finite beings who must necessarily engage in marginal decision making. I think in most cases it's very clear cut though - if you encounter someone hanging off a cliff for dear life and you're able to help them, I think you ought to, for instance.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492586738 121825400,121833493,2017-04-19 07:26:54,">>121833235 I wouldn't use 'necessities' like you are. Someone is only a necessity if it's necessary for something, but there are incredibly few things in the world that are necessarily necessary for anything.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492586814 121825400,121833547,2017-04-19 07:27:45,">>121833235 I don't think humans needs are infinite refer to Maslow's hierarchy of needs. I think it shows with the upper class not spending all their money.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492586865 121825400,121833691,2017-04-19 07:29:36,">>121833547 What would you say about the proposition that there are no such things as needs in the first place, and only wants in various degrees?",,Praceteom,needs1.png,82AmLMHSj20eIfOmpyDbCg==,US,,1492586976 121825400,121833802,2017-04-19 07:31:03,">>121833393 That applies well when referring to individuals actions but as a collective are we not morally responsible for our inaction?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492587063 121825400,121833843,2017-04-19 07:31:31,">>121833547 >I think it shows with the upper class not spending all their money. What do you think the 'upper' class do with their money? Hide it under a mattress? They either employ people to further their businesses, or they invest it in other peoples businesses, who employ people, and so on. There is no 'hidden money' being stolen by the so-called upper class in some selfish, fuck-the-poor, attitude.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492587091 121825400,121833903,2017-04-19 07:32:18,">>121833493 But necessities are constantly re-defined and increased by most people's standards. There are multiple initiatives that claim internet is a human necessity, the life expectancy keeps growing and therefore expensive health treatments become necessary. I believe my use of necessity accommodates these possibilities. >>121833547 They are not spending all of their money but they are always trying to make it grow. No rich man keeps his money under a mattress, it's always invested and being productive for them. This is because spending isn't the only way to cover necessities, sometimes, in order to cover a necessity, you need to save or invest because it is a future one, IE: Making sure your children are well-provided.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492587138 121825400,121833914,2017-04-19 07:32:24,">>121831064 Tbqh, I think Europe is going to end up like Bosnia and have war break out between the Muzzies and the native population (at least Western Europe), ending up in balkanization of the former Western European bloc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492587144 121825400,121833979,2017-04-19 07:33:07,">>121825400 Traditionalism is vital to society, no matter what political system is implemented; traditions must stay.",,Anonymous,IMG_4794.jpg,b5EOhmcZOdfvWVAQUziUiw==,AU,,1492587187 121825400,121834005,2017-04-19 07:33:32,">>121833802 People can only be responsible for what they do. If you're my friend and I go out and dump my garbage onto other people's lawns without their permission, you're not at all responsible for my actions by mere virtue of association with me. This is the case for any number of friends I might have - my actions are not theirs, and neither are theirs mine. We all have only responsibility of that which we ourselves do or abstain from doing.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492587212 121825400,121834049,2017-04-19 07:34:09,">>121833903 >But necessities are constantly re-defined and increased by most people's standards Which is exactly a reason I'll maintain that there is no such thing, as you can read here >>121833691",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492587249 121825400,121834054,2017-04-19 07:34:10,">>121833691 Interesting argument, I guess for the sake of practicality you have to define the more important wants as needs",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492587250 121825400,121834115,2017-04-19 07:34:59,,,Anonymous,A8860825.png,FfCR4o1eHqrzKwd8rDRchw==,GB,,1492587299 121825400,121834149,2017-04-19 07:35:25,">>121833843 That comment was in reference to there being infinite human needs..",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492587325 121825400,121834150,2017-04-19 07:35:25,>>121834115,,Anonymous,A79135971.png,DMXbAuCjL2M7fTzCdCedtA==,GB,,1492587325 121825400,121834176,2017-04-19 07:35:42,">>121834054 I feel as the author does, and think it would be less misleading and more descriptively accurate to just describe such things as ""things very valuable to most people"" or things people ""very much value"".",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492587342 121825400,121834190,2017-04-19 07:35:51,"G'day guys. What is your stance on the drug probem? Do junkies and crackheads get complimentary helicopter rides?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492587351 121825400,121834206,2017-04-19 07:36:02,>>121834150,,Anonymous,A89269262.png,ubEyBhAcj9hmcHRVI/YVTw==,GB,,1492587362 121825400,121834265,2017-04-19 07:36:41,">>121833903 Again the comment was in argument to the unlimited needs/wants of humans",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492587401 121825400,121834311,2017-04-19 07:37:19,">>121833914 >I think Europe is going to end up like Bosnia and have war break out between the Muzzies and the native population Our population is too subdued, too hellbent on debt, too morally destitute, too interdependent, and too inept to ever start another civil war. Sometimes I see it as the only answer. I wish it were, I often wish to witness the spectacle, but the truth is society is too damn selfish to give a fuck about its direction. >>121834149 I see my mistake. Look at set-point theory or the Hedonic treadmill, certainly truth to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492587439 121825400,121834347,2017-04-19 07:37:43,">>121834115 >>121834150 >>121834206 Fuck off communist.",,Anonymous,IMG_4731.jpg,hImhxgPfY19bjBX9U5V0TQ==,AU,,1492587463 121825400,121834372,2017-04-19 07:38:06,">>121834190 As long as people only do things to themselves, leave them be - they're not hurting anyone.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492587486 121825400,121834428,2017-04-19 07:38:49,">>121834005 But if I could talk to my friends and dissuade them from such an action that would be morally positive so if I don't isn't that morally negative?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492587529 121825400,121834511,2017-04-19 07:39:58,">>121834347 >calling me a commie Like fucking clockwork. It's becoming clearer every day that ancucks are divide and conquer shills.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492587598 121825400,121834534,2017-04-19 07:40:20,">>121834372 The issue is that by association they are hurting their families. I always have this argument with druggie friends - ""I'm only hurting myself"" - but in truth its tearing apart their families and friends. Many such cases. Although ideologically I believe in freedom of the individual so I'm at a crossroad once again.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492587620 121825400,121834603,2017-04-19 07:41:22,">>121834265 And mine was about the post-scarcity situation, which you put on the table and I deemed unreachable, which would support my idea that we need to engage the practices that allow us to increase living standards for everyone, even if it's with huge inequalities.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492587682 121825400,121834641,2017-04-19 07:41:54,">>121834511 >post shitty strawman bait posts >get called out >act outraged Fuck off commie",,Anonymous,1491757322897.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,GB,,1492587714 121825400,121834680,2017-04-19 07:42:18,">>121834190 Druggies will starve to death in Ancapistan. Leave them be, but don't hire them, and don't serve them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492587738 121825400,121834738,2017-04-19 07:42:58,">>121834428 >But if I could talk to my friends and dissuade them from such an action that would be morally positive At least attempting to would be morally positive, yes, very much so. I'd say if you knew anything about my plan to go dump garbage in people's lawns that you might have an obligation to tell me that would be wrong so long as you were prevented with an opportunity to do so. But whether I was or wasn't convinced wouldn't change whether you'd done your moral duty, and if I go on to dump garbage on people's lawns nonetheless, you're no more or less responsible for that. In such a case, your obligation is to attempt to make clear to me the wrongness of my actions. What happens after you do or do not fulfill your duty is not your responsibility.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492587778 121825400,121834835,2017-04-19 07:44:10,">>121834511 This>>121834641",,Anonymous,IMG_4581.jpg,eW/S5QFSLERk58unS7Gw0g==,AU,,1492587850 121825400,121834836,2017-04-19 07:44:11,">>121834176 Well i'm not trying to invoke emotional response from using the word ""needs"" here, just trying to get across the point the in a post-scarcity situation where everyones valuable wants and other wants(?) could be catered but production means are consolidated to a few ""lucky"" people. And how that can be moral.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492587851 121825400,121834869,2017-04-19 07:44:34,>>121834641(You),,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492587874 121825400,121834870,2017-04-19 07:44:35,">>121834534 I should have used more careful wording than ""hurt"" here, because what I mean by ""hurting"" is in the autonomy-interfering sense of the word, and not in people in their emotional attachments feeling grief, pity, anger, or what have you.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492587875 121825400,121834949,2017-04-19 07:45:32,,,Anonymous,1492445874011.png,/TJL/5JLkMUf1YycnTbzfg==,GB,,1492587932 121825400,121834977,2017-04-19 07:45:49,">>121834311 >Hedonic treadmill I think that favours my point?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492587949 121825400,121835073,2017-04-19 07:46:50,">>121834836 >but production means are consolidated to a few ""lucky"" people Well, I don't see why that would be morally troubling prima facie. It might be morally troubling if they had stolen that capital, surely, but the sheer fact that some people have in their possession some material things doesn't inform us of the morality or immorality of anything.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492588010 121825400,121835124,2017-04-19 07:47:30,,,Anonymous,1489070099969.jpg,dmVI+rJg8/v/57PGmN//zQ==,DE,,1492588050 121825400,121835186,2017-04-19 07:48:18,">>121828623 You're conflating ""no fault of their own"" with ""no one's fault."" It is absolutely the fault of the parents. The majority of intelligence is heritable. If you or your partner are low IQ retards and you choose to have children, the kids' struggles are on you, not society. You're pretending like these people's problems aren't preventable as a justification for some kind of redistributionist garbage, when the problem is, in fact, easily preventable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492588098 121825400,121835236,2017-04-19 07:48:56,">>121833393 >I think in most cases it's very clear cut though - if you encounter someone hanging off a cliff for dear life and you're able to help them, I think you ought to, for instance Not so clear cut. And this is what I've been arguing all along in this thread. This is morally opportunist, it will make you feel good at the time but it's impossible to predict the future outcome. What if spending 10 minutes helping you get out of that cliff prevents me from going home and discover something that will make everyone's life better in the future? Should we compromise future generation's welfare by helping today's? That's the answer that should be provided to those who claim we need to help. What we need to do is allocate resources in the most optimal way and there is no better way for this than a total and complete decentralization of morality.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492588136 121825400,121835238,2017-04-19 07:48:56,">>121834603 It's just illogical and inefficient to do it that way. So you're saying that we have huge inequalities until the final guy at the bottom scraps over the line (assuming we are trending this way) when we could redistribute long before that and achieve the same outcome??",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492588136 121825400,121835255,2017-04-19 07:49:13,">>121834977 Yes it does, but only partially. We reach a stage where we assume we are 'sufficed'. But that all becomes relative (like the point on poverty earlier). Once your neighbour has a bigger house, or wage, or boat, or car, you do too. There's a treadmill. The 'upper class' of the past where relatively poor in comparison to those of today - but rest assured there is no end-point. The pyramid keeps growing. >>121834949 >what is taxation >what are voluntary contracts Thanks for the bump.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492588153 121825400,121835357,2017-04-19 07:50:35,">>121830296 Evidently, neither is any ideology ever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492588235 121825400,121835359,2017-04-19 07:50:37,">>121835236 >What if spending 10 minutes helping you get out of that cliff prevents me from going home and discover something that will make everyone's life better in the future I'm not coming from a utilitarian or consequentialist position - I'm a deontological ethicist. So for me such things are very clear cut.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492588237 121825400,121835496,2017-04-19 07:52:31,">>121830901 >deserve How to spot a closet marxist 101. This category also includes: >marginalized >""needs"" >equality >fair >free >dialectic >culture >exploitation Mother nature isn't ""fair"" fag. No amount of redistribution will change the fact that humans are inherently inequal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492588351 121825400,121835533,2017-04-19 07:53:01,">>121834738 Well I think we're in agreement then that if you have the ability to attempt a social justice (such as redistribution of wealth to someone born to an unfortunate circumstance) then we morally should.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492588381 121825400,121835542,2017-04-19 07:53:10,,,Anonymous,1492042576170.png,rQSvWqkFzpJGTYwhv6vdYw==,GB,,1492588390 121825400,121835626,2017-04-19 07:54:16,>>121835542,,Anonymous,1490680120288.png,hRch28jTgQXcrCfmAKqfMQ==,GB,,1492588456 121825400,121835756,2017-04-19 07:56:02,">>121835186 I'm gonna sound edgy here but I don't believe people have free will so it really is no one's fault.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492588562 121825400,121835862,2017-04-19 07:57:23,">>121835533 I don't think wealth itself really has anything to do with morality desu. I think if someone's in a position to aid people in real dire straits they absolutely should, and that kindness is absolutely virtuous and an obligation, but I don't think that translates to people with more material things are universally obligated to distribute those things to other people. That's because material things themselves have very little correlation with moral states of affairs in most circumstances of moral significance.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492588643 121825400,121835868,2017-04-19 07:57:29,WHO HERE IS IN YAL,,Anonymous,1491741464937.png,7bquruTPrH1PEyBgLSiO0Q==,US,,1492588649 121825400,121835934,2017-04-19 07:58:13,">>121835238 But by redistributing you're misallocating resources , which compromises this wealth creation that I've been talking about all along. Yes, you may be able to reach a state of equality today by redistributing, but by doing so, you're making it more difficult to achieve future prosperity. Take this example. Before the Cuban revolution Cuba was one of the richest countries in the planet, meanwhile Singapore was a shithole. Due to that lack of scarcity, the Cubans decided to engage in redistributive practices, meanwhile Singapore decided not to. Decades later, the poorest 10% in Singapore is 10 times richer (has more access to goods) than half of Cuba's population. The Cubans reached a ""peace"" state, one where nobody had comparative needs, one where nobody was hungry, but they did so by compromising the future, and now that the thereshold of what defines prosperity has increased, Cubans are much further away from it than Singaporeans.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492588693 121825400,121835957,2017-04-19 07:58:33,">>121835255 Isn't this more of a social/cultural issue then. No matter your economic views this is destabilising.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492588713 121825400,121835966,2017-04-19 07:58:38,">>121835542 >>121835626 >>>>r/thedonald",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492588718 121825400,121836038,2017-04-19 07:59:30,">>121825400 Ok guys tell me how you convice a pack of niggers to be libertarians and i might join!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492588770 121825400,121836131,2017-04-19 08:00:43,">>121835533 The function of morality is to achieve a societal goal and always has been. If society wants to maintain peaceful communities with high living standards, then redistributionist policies have shown time and time again to be antithetical to that goal and are therefore immoral.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492588843 121825400,121836189,2017-04-19 08:01:25,">>121836038 Ay Tyrone you can sell that dope legally witout dem po hoppin on yo black ass AND you will be able to support taniqua and your 10 kids too",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492588885 121825400,121836251,2017-04-19 08:02:14,">>121836038 You will convince maybe only one because he's the only one to have a triple digits IQ,the rest would be still nogging",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492588934 121825400,121836272,2017-04-19 08:02:32,">>121836131 Morality is a good unto itself - morality isn't just instrumental.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492588952 121825400,121836354,2017-04-19 08:03:33,">>121836189 Well that is convincing for sure but he's still doing nigger things. I should have worded that differently.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492589013 121825400,121836405,2017-04-19 08:04:13,Those libertarians at the Spencer event last night. Pretty much sums it up. Dweebs who can't get pussy.,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1492589053 121825400,121836434,2017-04-19 08:04:33,">>121835756 If they are pre determined to be unsuccessful then they are pre determined to die in the streets. So there's no issue to be solved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492589073 121825400,121836574,2017-04-19 08:06:07,">>121836354 Ayo Jayquan u kno if u keep doin dis shiet u might die rite? You gonna go die fo nuffin and make yo mama cry like that? Fo wat Jayquan?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492589167 121825400,121836623,2017-04-19 08:06:34,">>121836038 Id tell them to get a good job if they were clearly degenerate in the way they acted. That or go under an apprenticeship for a trade. Or join the armed forces. (im not ancap clearly) Any of those things can improve both of our social and economic standing, that means that the niggers kids will be more likely to live a succesful life and not be morally degenerate. Mabye over time they can improve their IQ, but one thing for sure is that excessive welfare hurts niggers badly. They need to be allowed ro be degenerate, but be punished for it if they do. A nonwelfare state is the best way to acheive that vision.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492589194 121825400,121836733,2017-04-19 08:07:57,">>121836434 I hear ya. Being rational enough to believe in determinism but then also feeling morally obliged to the less fortunate really fucks with you.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492589277 121825400,121836801,2017-04-19 08:08:40,">>121836733 >rational >determinism wut",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492589320 121825400,121836900,2017-04-19 08:09:55,">>121827239 > your commie ass won't be thrown from helicopter",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492589395 121825400,121836941,2017-04-19 08:10:24,">>121835934 Another example. Not so long ago I read an article where a journalist claimed that by sharing Amancio Ortega's wealth (2nd/1st, depends on the day, richest guy in the world) everyone in Spain would see their living standards grow immensely. This is obviously stupid, and let me explain you why: First of all, because they claimed that his company's value is his wealth, while we know perfectly well that if we started selling his company the value would begin decreasing, as the value of a company is the belief that this company will keep generating wealth in the future. Second, because this redistribution is a one-time-event, and once all this money runs out you're left with nothing, and in the process you destroyed a company that gives employment and generates wealth constantly. Basically, instead of letting the gardener take care of his tree and have it grow apples for eternity, you put the tree in the hands of people who will just eat the apples and wipe their asses with the leafs, which means you reached a moment of global prosperity in exchange of a sustainable and growing prosperity.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492589424 121825400,121837316,2017-04-19 08:15:01,">>121836733 Even legitimate retards have the capacity to work minimum wage jobs. If someone isnt at least acheiving some form of prosperity in the united states, they quite literally chose to keep being in that position. Between welfare and economic mobility, even a fucking druggy peice of shit ghetto guy can sweep streets and shit for change. Sometimes people dont have control of everything in their lives, but to say that free will is entirely a myth in psycological terms is disingenuous. There are enough responses preprogrammed in the human brain in addition to critical thinking skills to have effective free will even if it isnt genuine on every level.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492589701 121825400,121837356,2017-04-19 08:15:37,">>121836038 They'll soon fuck off once there's no welfare state to leech off of productive members of society. Even if they don't, under Right Libertarianism, you can trade with them but at a distance.",,Anonymous,1491766381614.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,GB,,1492589737 121825400,121837567,2017-04-19 08:18:05,">>121836941 >>121835934 Very good posts, have a rare Hayek",,Anonymous,tfw to clever too use helicopters.png,ACU6pKCeca5UM0X5NqimKQ==,GB,,1492589885 121825400,121837627,2017-04-19 08:18:51,">>121836801 >believing the laws of nature produces one outcome based on the inputs (disregarding quantum mechanics) >not rational wut you a christian?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492589931 121825400,121837782,2017-04-19 08:20:59,">>121837627 One can hold to self-generating causes when it comes to mental phenomena. Dualism is unpopular but not because it's irrational. I'm a Christian, yes.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492590059 121825400,121837889,2017-04-19 08:22:19,">>121837316 (Note that it doesnt just stop at the united states, the US just has the highest average class shifting in the world if im not mistaken, if uou play your cards right theres no reason why you cant do the same in china.) >>121837567 I concur >>121837627 Christianity isnt inherently indicative of a stupid individual. Its quite simply a belief system with the highest success rate as being a dominant religion. I may personally disagree with many of the literal interpretations of the bible, however you have to recognize that a naturalistic bias is exactly that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492590139 121825400,121837939,2017-04-19 08:23:03,">>121837316 I mean no free will in the way that the outcome was pre-determined no matter his thought process.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492590183 121825400,121837951,2017-04-19 08:23:12,">>121837889 >>121837316 >>121836623 Sorry for phoneposting, ill link my shit so you can harp on me if you want to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492590192 121825400,121837977,2017-04-19 08:23:34,">>121827239 >>121827239 1) I like my neighbours, and if you shoot at my neighbours, I will shoot at you 2) my neighbours like me, and if you shoot at me, my neighbours will shoot at you It may be hard for a Finn to imagine liking somebody else, but try.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492590214 121825400,121837988,2017-04-19 08:23:42,Who /ClassicalLiberal/ here,,Anonymous,colorful-george-washington_95144.jpg,gHwjj4VshQPGz8NwsRFXvw==,GB,,1492590222 121825400,121838089,2017-04-19 08:24:52,">>121837988 Here, this thread needs more classic liberalism.",,Anonymous,1492207377705.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,GB,,1492590292 121825400,121838351,2017-04-19 08:27:59,">>121837977 That's very true. The lack of sunlight over there gives them autism. I'd be living in a white Christian society.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492590479 121825400,121838353,2017-04-19 08:28:01,">>121837988 Is classial liberal the same as minarchist ? Or there are some différences ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492590481 121825400,121838417,2017-04-19 08:28:46,">>121835934 >>121836941 Good arguments. I like to think that motivation can be drawn from things other than material gain but you're right in saying that recently it has been the most efficient and most likely will remain that way. But there is going to be a point when sustainability will become more important then growth.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492590526 121825400,121838533,2017-04-19 08:30:00,">>121837627 Christianity is rational. It's the atheist that isn't.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492590600 121825400,121838614,2017-04-19 08:30:50,">>121837988 It's a nice idea, but it's not practical right now. It's great when we have an all white society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492590650 121825400,121838656,2017-04-19 08:31:27,">>121833065 I'm telling you to learn how to live in your utopia.",,Snek,,,SK,,1492590687 121825400,121838690,2017-04-19 08:31:51,">>121833979 This.",,Snek,,,SK,,1492590711 121825400,121838692,2017-04-19 08:31:53,">>121837782 Not shitting on you for being a christian but i find it ironic to be calling determinism irrational",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492590713 121825400,121838788,2017-04-19 08:32:56,">>121835756 It's always cringeworthy to see some faggot with their pop knowledge of philosophy make retarded claims Aussies are shitposters through and through Maybe the Chinese ought to colonise us",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492590776 121825400,121838827,2017-04-19 08:33:27,">>121837889 Not saying that christians are stupid. Just understanding the platform were determinism is deemed irrational",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492590807 121825400,121839013,2017-04-19 08:35:30,">>121838533 There's probably a better place for this argument rather that the libertarian thread but please explain",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492590930 121825400,121839193,2017-04-19 08:37:33,">>121838656 >calling out the fact that charity isn't a fucking sliver bullet >Communist",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492591053 121825400,121839262,2017-04-19 08:38:22,">>121838692 It's an entirely vacuous doctrine. Determinism does not rule out any conceivable states of affairs.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492591102 121825400,121839393,2017-04-19 08:40:02,">>121837939 Generally im against that notion, however it is clear and irrefutable in many instances that predisposed outcomes are statistically avoidable but even if you do find yourself in one, there will always be one choice: die. You can chose to die at any point, and if your predisposition was to die an early death than it is entirely your fault for allowing that to come to complete and planned fruition. Im using kidnappings and deepweb level shit as examples here, if you are born and raised to be a depraved basement slut, you will very likely live up to that expectation. But you can still fight back or kill yourself. Fair enough point tho. >>121837988 Id consider myself classical liberal yeah. >>121838533 Generally athiests like myself use naturalistic scientific observations as the basis for every argument against christians. The thing is is that really we cant understand christian thought and general religious thinking. I think its quite clear that both sides of the spectrum are thoroughly indoctrinated with what they grew up with or found to be true. You can disagree of course, but whenever I tried to read the bible or any other religious text even back in the day when I was suicidal, I couldnt bring myself to find any literal value and proof from what I read. When I read genesis I laughed. But the bible does provide some important framework for organized society so theres that. (This is a libertarian thread but hey no group is likeminded in every respect. Its about the individual ey?)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492591202 121825400,121839505,2017-04-19 08:41:36,">>121839013 Atheism is grounded in metaphysical naturalism. It's by this that atheists, typically, exclude God's existence. Christians have the metaphysical resources to posit laws of logic/nature/mathematics. Even the most ardent of atheists held to varying kinds of Platonism. Which means that atheism hasn't been able to furnish us with abstract objects like numbers, mathematical laws and logic.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492591296 121825400,121839516,2017-04-19 08:41:43,">>121838788 this is the real shitpost. you think personal responsibility has nothing to do with social justice?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492591303 121825400,121839615,2017-04-19 08:42:51,">>121825400 >>121825509 >>121825748 >>121826147 WHY WON'T YOU INCLUDE RAICO IN THE LIBERTARIAN LIST? REEEEEEEE RALPH RAICO: HISTORIAN OF THE LIBERTARIANS Quote: >Liberalism did not emerge full blown nor did it undergo a metamorphosis into a caricature of itself. But it did evolve. I'm not offering any argument that liberalism sprang up at a certain point complete, fully matured. Neither can liberalism can be approached -- as some people do -- as a conversation conducted among philosophers over the centuries. Instead, liberalism must be understood, I think, as a political and social doctrine and a movement grounded in the distinctive culture and traceable to specific historical condition. That culture is the west. A Europe that rose in communion with the bishop of Rome. The historical conditions were those of the middle ages. The history of liberalism is rooted in what economic historians call the European miracle. >RAICO LECTURES (AUDIO): STRUGGLE FOR FREEDOM >The European Miracle https://mises.org/library/1-european-miracle >Classical Liberalism https://mises.org/library/2-classical-liberalism >John Stuart Mill https://mises.org/library/3-john-stuart-mill >Class and Conflict https://mises.org/library/4-class-and-conflict >War, Peace, and the Industrial Revolution https://mises.org/library/5-war-peace-and-industrial-revolution >The New World of Capitalism https://mises.org/library/6-new-world-capitalism >The anti capitalists https://mises.org/library/7-anti-capitalists >The planned society https://mises.org/library/8-planned-society >The first world war https://mises.org/library/9-first-world-war >Classical liberalism and the welfare-warfare state https://mises.org/library/10-classical-liberalism-and-welfare-warfare-state",,Anonymous,Ralph Raico 2005.jpg,0RLqG1mObGyzQkQQBJAUlg==,CA,,1492591371 121825400,121839738,2017-04-19 08:44:23,">>121839393 I don't think you understand determinism, die or not die the factors leading up to the choice determined the outcome",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492591463 121825400,121839793,2017-04-19 08:45:02,">>121838417 I think that point where sustainability is more important than growth is also achieved by Capitalism. Like, we're at a point where a great amount of people prefer to spend a bit more on ecologic eggs than pay less for the usual mass production ones. Same goes with veganism, recycled products, electric cars, etc. This is not because we're better people than 50 years ago, this is because, to put it simply, we can afford it. When you're hungry you don't care about whether that tree will keep producing apples or not, therefore we need to reach a situation where we care for sustainability, and that is achieved by Capitalism quicker than any other method. Also, big advances in technology save the environment and make it more sustainable, when people say Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos have saved more trees than Greenpeace, they are totally right.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492591502 121825400,121839870,2017-04-19 08:46:00,">>121825400 Pretty good thread OP. You gave us a good theme to discuss and we got some pretty legit discussion.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1492591560 121825400,121839921,2017-04-19 08:46:29,">>121839393 > Generally athiests like myself use naturalistic scientific observations as the basis for every argument against christians. That's the issue. You begin with metaphysical naturalism, and run with it, and are surprised that you can't find any non-physical objects. Let me re-iterate. The atheist's use of methodological naturalism as an argument against dualism and most importantly (Christian) theism is circular. The thought process of any atheist. 1. Nothing non-physical exist 2. *Evidences of the non-physical appears* 3. Re-interpret it using ad hoc naturalistic explanations 4. Conclude that nothing non-physical exists, and therefore naturalism is true. > You can disagree of course, but whenever I tried to read the bible or any other religious text even back in the day when I was suicidal, I couldnt bring myself to find any literal value and proof from what I read. When I read genesis I laughed. But the bible does provide some important framework for organized society so theres that. You are a type of person who isn't capable of critical thought. You only care which side has the wittier remarks and is snide in their conduct. What research have you done in regards to creationism, biblical history, and Christianity in general?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492591589 121825400,121839942,2017-04-19 08:46:43,">>121838417 Thanks for the entertaining debate by the way, glad to see that people with different ideas can keep an open mind. Back to work for me. >>121837567 I will save it!",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492591603 121825400,121840004,2017-04-19 08:47:21,">>121838614 Classical liberalism is an historically conditioned phenomenon. There is very little hope of achieving it as an ideal in the context of the multi ethnic society, since the introduction of several races of people within the same society brings into the body politic groups of people whose historical heritage is such that it is not conductive to the establishment of a classical liberal society. It furthermore breeds class conflicts in the form of race conflicts, in which each groups tries to grant themselves advantages through the use of government force. What's more, in order to manage inter race relations, the state is always incentivized to interfere with people's liberty so as to make sure that ""social harmony"" is maintained.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492591641 121825400,121840057,2017-04-19 08:47:59,">>121839738 Is it an attractive feature of any idea purporting to describe states of affairs in the world that there be *no conceivable state of affairs* that it can rule out? It's a completely nonfalsifiable notion. There are no conceivable grounds upon which determinism - if assumed - could even possibly be found false.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492591679 121825400,121840069,2017-04-19 08:48:04,">>121839615 Added to the website :^) nice one anon.",,Anonymous,1491847201893.png,Pf1BbhBkujFFxRuqC0CxiA==,GB,,1492591684 121825400,121840250,2017-04-19 08:49:58,">>121839793 It has to be cultural shift too, values have to change before people will take action. Whether the action is possible through capital is irrelevant to the reasoning.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492591798 121825400,121840262,2017-04-19 08:50:06,">>121840057 A better question would be, is determinism axiomatic then?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492591806 121825400,121840464,2017-04-19 08:52:22,">>121840262 Since it can neither even conceivably be proven or falsified given its assumption, yes - you'd have to take determinism axiomatically. But I have no idea why you *EVER* would. Determinism as a presupposition facilitates no good.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1492591942 121825400,121840471,2017-04-19 08:52:27,">>121839921 >>121839393 I don't think that's correct. Atheists do not assume naturalism, in that they usually recognize that naturalism simply begs the question. To be a naturalist is to be an atheist, and to suppose it is thus to make some leap of faith into it. Rather, the atheist proceeds in the following way. He starts by asking himself ""what am I most certain of?"" He notices that he knows the sky to be blue, that there is such a sum of money in his pocket, that his keys are in this place or that place, etc. He then asks himself ""How have I come to know these things?"" and notices that he did so largely through common sense, that is to say through ordinary observations about empirical phenomenon and the natural conclusions that sprung in his mind according to this natural process. He then asks himself ""Do the claims of religion conform to this process of knowing?"" and he realizes that it does not, that the manner of knowing of the religions -- revelation -- departs radically from what ordinary experience would seem to dictate in other areas of knowing. He then asks ""Why should I depart radically from common sense?"" and, finding no justification for this, does not go further. Thus the atheist / agnostic does not start with a metaphysical position but with an epistemological one.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492591947 121825400,121840485,2017-04-19 08:52:36,">>121839942 It's been a good thread, yeah i'm off too",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492591956 121825400,121840867,2017-04-19 08:57:12,">>121840471 An epidemiological position that is self-refuting. Have you heard of Hume's problem of induction? In response to your argument I would say how does the atheist determine from empirical evidence that knowledge can only stem from empiricism. Where does he find the laws of logic? He's thought is rational, so it adheres to the laws of logic, so where are they? I would suggest you read Descartes' Meditations.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492592232 121825400,121841006,2017-04-19 08:58:50,">>121840464 Recent leaps in quantum mechanics have challenged determinism. Although I would fancy myself a compatibilist.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492592330 121825400,121841017,2017-04-19 08:58:58,">>121825400 >PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board The Nazys are the real problem. The commies are long dead.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492592338 121825400,121841169,2017-04-19 09:00:41,">>121827897 In a tribe the objective is to help others become supreme individuals for mutual gain. You help someone become the ultimate shoe maker so you have the best shoes. The literal opposite of the Western competitive model where everyone is trying to fuck everyone else over for mutual loss.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1492592441 121825400,121841393,2017-04-19 09:03:11,">>121841017 Nah lefties need to be eradicated, NatSoc will see no reason to be statists when the leftists are all dead. Fascism is just a reaction to communism.",,Anonymous,pol_master_race.png,KJvteDAeB6iZ9p0/CqQUKg==,US,,1492592591 121825400,121841532,2017-04-19 09:04:04,"How would basic utilities work? Like water and sewage? Do people build pipes next to each other that use different businesses?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492592644 121825400,121841559,2017-04-19 09:04:22,">>121840867 >An epidemiological position that is self-refuting. >Have you heard of Hume's problem of induction? The problem of induction is merely this: that there is no rational grounding for an inference from experience. In this sense, to believe that the sun will rise tomorrow is a mere act of faith. This is all well and good. Let's grant this for moment. Does it then entail that the claims of religion are better justified than the belief that the sun will rise tomorrow? If we have no reason to be confident in our belief that the sun will indeed rise tomorrow in spite of our experience, what justification do we then have to believe the claims of religion? One does not strengthen his position by weakening the position of someone else. General skepticism abound the nature of experience and the ""faith of evidence"" does not then make Jesus resurrection any more certain, or Muhammad's hallucination any more true. If the religious only has, as a defense, a denigration of experience, so that it is reduced to faith, then I will simply say: ""We can chose either between the faith of experience, the faith that has given us the theory of gravity, evolution and the technological world we live in today, and which promises more for tomorrow; or, we can chose the faith of Jesus or Muhammad, which has produced prayers, the sprinkling of water on one's forehead, jihad, and so on."" I have read Descartes' Meditation. It's not clear to me that Descartes was actually much concerned with religion aside from his desire not to be called a heretic. In fact, I see Descartes' dualism as an attempt to introduce mechanism in the world without pissing off the Church too much.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492592662 121825400,121841677,2017-04-19 09:05:43,">>121841393 Nice. OC?",,Anonymous,1492184502519.jpg,SiXl0PUA2ir2hb4wJdvT2g==,GB,,1492592743 121825400,121841764,2017-04-19 09:06:41,">>121841532 The government will still build and maintain public utilities. Anyone who claims otherwise lacks an understanding of basic economics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492592801 121825400,121841887,2017-04-19 09:08:00,">>121827239 whats to stop someone from shooting a guy in the street?",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1492592880 121825400,121842023,2017-04-19 09:09:25,">>121827239 >muh everyone will start killing everyone for absolutely no reason Only in nigger neighborhoods.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492592965 121825400,121842072,2017-04-19 09:09:55,">>121839505 How to prove you're a pseudo-intellectual on 4chan - 101",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492592995 121825400,121842167,2017-04-19 09:11:09,">>121841677 Yeah.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492593069 121825400,121842204,2017-04-19 09:11:31,">>121842072 *them feels when you realise its obviously a shitpost because Australiatism*",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492593091 121825400,121842451,2017-04-19 09:13:54,">>121836038 Without a welfare state they'll be forced to work. If they choose not to and instead commit crimes, they'll simply be taken care of by the police. Eventually you'll have less of them and the ones that do live will be productive",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492593234 121825400,121842521,2017-04-19 09:14:39,">>121841393 >NatSoc will see no reason to be statists when the leftists are all dead. LOLnope. Nope. Nope noppo-nope. Libertarianism would already be the default ruling principle if this fucked up alliance with Nazys didn't exist.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492593279 121825400,121842604,2017-04-19 09:15:29,">>121841764 >>121841532 These are natural monopolies, sure, but if the internet existed when states controlled these 'natural' monopolies then we'd all sit here saying how ridiculous it is that a situation might arise in which there are 'multiple private internet providers'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492593329 121825400,121842739,2017-04-19 09:16:48,">>121842521 Care to bring an argument with that assertion?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492593408 121825400,121842880,2017-04-19 09:18:32,">>121841764 >>121842604 I think the best option would be decentralization. Internet could be solved with MESH networking unless you live far away where maybe someone could supply base stations/towers Each house could have a water tank and a sewage tank buried and they could hire someone to top up the water and remove sewage. I don't know much for electricity but each house could buy wind generators or small generators of some sort.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492593512 121825400,121842981,2017-04-19 09:19:33,">>121839505 It is true that everything made possible by the scientific revolution was founded on religious men's principles and discoveries. A good example would be the miasma theory as a precursor to modern medicine and microbiology. I guess I have to give you this one. I simply cant compute faith as a thing honestly. Its probably very similar to love or something like that, but still. >>121839738 But thats just common sense. Im just stating that the choice itself is probably more influential than you give it credit. (But the factors would certainly make the bulk of determining the effect of the choices yes.) >>121839921 I agree with your first point, but regarding the second remark- I do absolutely understand many of the figurative interpretations of the stories inside the bible, they teach morals and important lessons regarding social order. I do admit that theology has recieved cursory insight compared to the average religiously informed individual in my case. So yeah on the whole you're in the right. >>121840471 Yeah he explains the rational pretty well >>121840867 Its a rationality loop. Essentially if the world is rational because of the way that it works and its the only observable basis for fact and im rational because I can descipher this than that means that the laws of being rational are dependant on worldly constructs because the world is rational. And how can you otherwise debate it if all the world is rooted in observable science down to the very matter? Simply speaking, I cant understand non naturalist arguments unless they are rooted in some worldly context. I cant look at a religious text with a literal mindset and not think of why it was written by who and what it means to accomplish in a worldly sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492593573 121825400,121843472,2017-04-19 09:24:48,">>121842880 I would actually agree with this, but everything in our modern power structure dissuades this from being preferable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492593888 121825400,121843649,2017-04-19 09:26:41,">>121843472 Well If I was to start a nation that's what I'll do. This is what my house has except the power is from the grid The government would provide a cheap alternative only if there isn't one to prevent monopolies etc.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492594001 121825400,121844277,2017-04-19 09:33:31,">>121843649 Well see heres where a socialist would come in and be like ""blah blah safety environment quality control blah blah blah"" But it is something to think about. Its detrimental to the free market if theres more limits on whats possible, however if your generator is spewing toxic fumes through my house and killing my grass, how do you combat that? Is everything resolved by court? I think theres a pretty clear limit to capitalism, as you said monopolies are a big deal and destroy the idea of free market. If anything it does the same thing as going communist, it defeats the purpose of its inception.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492594411 121825400,121844685,2017-04-19 09:37:45,">>121844277 >monopolies are a big deal and destroy the idea of free market They don't. There is no clearer case of a monopoly than when the government grants monopoly privileges either to itself or to some corporation under the pretense of better serving the public. The fact that there may be but one company in a certain area of commerce is not itself evidence of the presence of a monopoly, for it may be that this company operates in such a way that the prices it offers to the consumer are precisely those that the market dictates. One will find, rather, that private monopolies usually arises when government acts in such a way that it will restrict the possibility of entry into a certain market, leading to sub optimal prices for the consumer.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492594665 121825400,121844689,2017-04-19 09:37:48,">>121844277 The government would help protect the environment up to toxic waste and anything biologically harmful. One way to solve this would be if everyone else agreed that it's dangerous and bans it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492594668 121825400,121844789,2017-04-19 09:39:03,">>121844277 >Is everything resolved by court? Why should it not? Have you consented to having your property contaminated by toxic fumes? This seems to me like a pretty clear case of a non consensual interaction.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492594743 121825400,121845829,2017-04-19 09:50:53,Libertarians have had decades to push forward their ideas and have accomplished nothing. Libertarianism has failed so completely and so thoroughly that it's become a synonym for goofy nonsense.,,Anonymous,C9VpxX_VYAENUBm.jpg,KTP86ddS5L8qUk4YHGpcxQ==,US,,1492595453 121825400,121846140,2017-04-19 09:54:27,">>121845829 Fuck the worthless Libertarian party, bunch of reddit commies these days.",,Anonymous,1491703017330.jpg,iHXofNrZpzBu/vI0a0PCwA==,GB,,1492595667 121825400,121846583,2017-04-19 09:59:24,">>121845829 There is certainly many degenerates within the libertarian movement whose only interests lie in its perceived justification for licentiousness. Just as there are cultural marxists, it appear there are cultural libertarians. But the libertarian approach is to suppose that nature itself is harsh and therefore imposes on people certain standards of behavior from which they can deviate only to the extent that they are willing to personally bear the costs of such deviations, without being able to transfer these costs to other, more productive people. We perceive that government intervention, in many way, is an attempt by individuals who produce very little value for society to shield themselves from the harshness of nature.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492595964 121825400,121847136,2017-04-19 10:05:13,">>121846583 Well put leaf.",,Anonymous,IMG_0380.jpg,dEB0j8gT+PRyGCU4ypZhfQ==,US,,1492596313 121825400,121847166,2017-04-19 10:05:30,">>121844685 Government and monopolies both opperate for the sake of the individuals running it more often than not right? Sure a competitor might compete, but what stops the monopoly from using the resources available to it to stifle competition. When a monopoly is involved, the market doesnt dictate the price, the monopoly does because it becomes the market. In addition to control of most of the other transactions related to that market more often than not. I will concede that monopoly is a result of government more often than not, Mabye im just not educated or educated incorrectly but even so it seems like mixed economies tend to be the norm for most countries. I know there are groups like banks and cellphone providers that essentially function akin to a monopoly-lite. But im wondering why its the case. Clearly if we are looking at something like the gilded age then massive economic growth was seen, if it was continued do you think that profits would circulate naturally or would it choke up and stifle into a plutocracy? >>121844689 True, but banning it wont stop people from aquiring it if supply is already high. >>121844789 Having everything go through private court seems awfully inefficient and easily abusable. I could see people spending literally days in court defending allegations and protecting their right to do what they please etc. >>121845829 I dont know if this is bait or not. The united states and practically every modern day country has had some portion of its success directly related to capitalism or otherwise liberal rights and freedoms. >>121846140 In regards to that quote, I would say that in general its individual humans that perpetuate conflict, but the state itself is an inflated part of that. It gives a degree of control and absolution that makes the normal human more dangerous.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492596330 121825400,121848048,2017-04-19 10:15:04,">>121847166 >Having everything go through private court seems awfully inefficient and easily abusable. I could see people spending literally days in court defending allegations and protecting their right to do what they please etc. But that is precisely, in part, the system we have now. If I key your car and you want compensation for this damage, what do you suppose you will have to do? Facts will have to be established. The process through which this will happen will be the review of the court. >>121847166 >what stops the monopoly from using the resources available to it to stifle competition And how do you suppose the monopoly should do that? Assuming for a moment that he may not employ force, and thus government coercion or the use of private arms, how will he prevent a new competitor from entering into the market? Suppose for a moment that some ISP is the sole provider of a certain region and as result charges the consumer more than the average rates as a result of this privileged position. Suppose, then, some mutual or investment funds, or some other big ISP looking to make a profit. What are the incentives put in place by this situation? They encourage precisely entry into this market where higher profit can be had. How will the ""monopolistic"" ISP prevent other competitors, competitors of equal size, from entering into this market? >it seems like mixed economies tend to be the norm for most countries Consider the health market in the United-Sates. Why is it that it is impossible for private entities to go outside the US in order to buy drugs so as to reimport them into the US to sell them at a lower price? This is so by government legislation, by the way. Who profits from that? Libertarians are no friends of corporations. They are friends of liberty. Corporations, more often then not, realize full well just how advantageous it is to use the government so as to create laws that will favor them at the expense of everybody else.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492596904 121825400,121848065,2017-04-19 10:15:17,">>121847166 >In regards to that quote, I would say that in general its individual humans that perpetuate conflict, but the state itself is an inflated part of that. It gives a degree of control and absolution that makes the normal human more dangerous. Fair enough, the state whips the individual into a frenzy of conflict, enslaving him like no other.",,Anonymous,1491774328231.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,GB,,1492596917 121825400,121849326,2017-04-19 10:28:47,Bump,,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1492597727 121825400,121849332,2017-04-19 10:28:52,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492597732 121825400,121850243,2017-04-19 10:38:00,">>121849332 >Hoppe will never do a QandA on /lrg/",,Anonymous,1492381217824.png,FlwzgsdnBAUB3ACvAepaUA==,GB,,1492598280 121825400,121851180,2017-04-19 10:46:37,>>121850243,,Anonymous,1474603377179.jpg,EovB7QNYAvZgPAiIadCX6g==,CA,,1492598797 121825400,121851633,2017-04-19 10:50:25,">>121825400 I don't think anyone has answered this question before, it's been bugging me for a while so I'll try to explain myself When a person adheres to the principals of liberty / libertarianism does the left right divide not become somewhat irrelevant? I could personally be pro gay marriage or pro ethno-states but being an ardent enough libertarian would mean I wouldn't want to inflict my will upon others through the use of the state. Tl:Dr is libertarian right an oxymoron.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492599025 121825400,121851702,2017-04-19 10:51:05,">>121850243 >Mr Hoppe, are communists people? Furthermore does the NAP apply to sub-human leftists?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492599065 121825400,121851963,2017-04-19 10:53:45,">>121825400 MY SENSES ARE TINGLING!",,Anonymous,1484519437517.png,AFxoeIcl/8gyDniWd1mQmA==,PT,,1492599225 121825400,121852141,2017-04-19 10:55:27,">>121851633 The problem is that we live in a system in which coalition of different interests groups need to be formed so as to seize government power. As a result, different substantive yet unrelated issues end up being lumped together under a common label that is used to designate a certain group as a matter of social reality, not ideological reality. This the Christian ""right"" and the economic ""right"" end up being associated to one another in virtue of their being part of the same coalition. As you rightly recognize, there is no necessary ideological connection between the two. A Christian may very well be some specie of a socialist and not a free marketer. The problem is thus not the word ""libertarian"" but the word ""right"", which is now so elastic as to include Christians, Muhammedans, neo Conservatives, libertarian isolationists, traditionalists, fascists, nazis, anrcho capitalists, minarchists, etc.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492599327 121825400,121852152,2017-04-19 10:55:33,">>121851633 I disagree, the left-right divide in libertarianism exists and we don't mesh well. See the Cantwell vs Kokesh debate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492599333 121825400,121852404,2017-04-19 10:57:54,">>121851633 Right is a certain viewpoint on traditionalism, social order, hierarchy, inequality, and economics, etc. As is left. Libertarianism isn't mutually exclusive to the left or right. It is an oxymoron it some forms, but not as a whole. See pic >>121837356 You can have the same argument with liberalism - I for one have studied the differences between modern and classic liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492599474 121825400,121852550,2017-04-19 10:59:10,">>121851633 Libertarian left-right is a distinction of property rights. This is why both right and left libertarians/anarchists accuse each other of not being true anarchy etc. Right-libertarianism proposes fully private property rights. That's right-wing economics. The social issues that you mention don't become irrelevant, they simply become private issues. Although that doesn't exclude the existence of social planning through private means, i.e. churches, covenants and collectives.",,Anonymous,amish.jpg,wn2kQhr9DIKMpMCm1bqV6Q==,AU,,1492599550 121825400,121852612,2017-04-19 10:59:42,,,Anonymous,1492379946089.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,GB,,1492599582 121825400,121852732,2017-04-19 11:00:58,">>121848048 All excellent points really, though I fail to see the view that in (seemingly) every conceivable situation the government is involved with private enterprise, monopoly or not, it causes issues. If you are willing to place your trust in a system thats runned by morally endowed opportunists, whats to say that another (government) is any different? Im simply concerned about the repercussions of no authoritarive involvment, there will inevitably be one, theres head figures all the way down at the familial level and its integral to modern makeup and society. But whats the absolute difference? Ones authoritative and one isnt? Does that make the difference? >>121851633 You would just push it on an individual basis, not using the state but just your own voice and power. Of course this is provided we're going full on ancap. Or you wouldnt do anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492599658 121825400,121852884,2017-04-19 11:02:19,>unironically libertarian,,Anonymous,sadbluefrog.jpg,5+Oy6l+hpCCGLQ2gcRyBAg==,SE,,1492599739 121825400,121852946,2017-04-19 11:02:46,">>121825400 >being a lolbertarian >wanting open borders, (((free trade))), no regulations and no roads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492599766 121825400,121853036,2017-04-19 11:03:42,">>121852946 >libertarians want open borders >free trade is bad >regulations are good >muh roads >>>/r/the_donald",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492599822 121825400,121853147,2017-04-19 11:04:41,">>121834511 Are we going to respect eachother's property or are we not? If you're not going to respect mine, why the fuck should I respect yours. Fuck off commie.",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,rTCPHdj55stJlHz/+Rr/gQ==,US,,1492599881 121825400,121853190,2017-04-19 11:05:00,">>121852946 See >>121837356 We are not leddit.",,Anonymous,1417437689328.gif,8jjz2HMljxzilkw4B2ygbg==,GB,,1492599900 121825400,121853226,2017-04-19 11:05:18,">>121852732 >Im simply concerned about the repercussions of no authoritarive involvment Well I'm not an anarcho capitalist. I believe in a state whose role it is to arbitrate between disputes. There is some involvement on the part of some authority but it mostly consists in the enforcement of private property rights.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492599918 121825400,121853367,2017-04-19 11:06:30,">>121852884 Which parts do you disagree with?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492599990 121825400,121853518,2017-04-19 11:07:53,">>121853367 The hermit mentality.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1492600073 121825400,121853649,2017-04-19 11:09:04,">>121833979 Who is going to enforce traditionalism, if not the government? >it's good because it's tradition Why?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492600144 121825400,121853861,2017-04-19 11:10:58,">>121853226 Why would you monopolize the role of arbiter? Also, in a conflict of of the state vs another entity, how can you expect the state to arbitrate itself?",,Anonymous,ancaplemonade.jpg,o6yc78mKWnbUGI/qoTEp/w==,US,,1492600258 121825400,121853893,2017-04-19 11:11:19,">>121853518 Well that's down to the individual not the system or ideology. A libertarian system would allow people to thrive as they wish - you can be a bee and build great communities or undertake charity - or be a hermit and live in the woods.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492600279 121825400,121853985,2017-04-19 11:12:09,Non American libertarians: what is your country like from a libertarian perspective?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492600329 121825400,121853992,2017-04-19 11:12:14,">>121853861 >$700 holy fucking shit that is a deal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492600334 121825400,121854128,2017-04-19 11:13:14,"A remark on the left, equality and libertarianism A REMARK ON THE LEFT, EQUALITY AND LIBERTARIANISM Have you noticed that left leaning individual usually believe that all men are created equal, and this in a rather literal sense, but then justify government intervention by implicitly assuming precisely the reverse? For what does the leftist say when we propose to him that we should adopt a regime of liberty? ""What of the imbeciles and the evil men? Will not the shrewder and more cunning among us use their superior intellectual and business skill so as the exploit the stupid masses? Won't the schemer use his ability to cheat and defraud people? Won't the degenerate gambler engage in activities that are not good for himself? Will not, in other words, society become very much unequal if we ever allow people to fend for themselves?"" By offering this defense, it would seem to me that the leftist as implicitly assumed through and through that all humans are FAR from having been created equal, as a result of which government is needed to level the playing field, to bring through artificial mean what nature could not bring about itself. >>121853861 This is a valid point yet I'm not convinced by the anarcho capitalist alternative of private arbiters.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492600394 121825400,121854248,2017-04-19 11:14:15,">>121853985 Awful, save me. Government bureaucracy is rampant in business here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492600455 121825400,121854251,2017-04-19 11:14:16,">>121853861 Wow isn't that famas a bit too cheap? are the clips included for that price?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492600456 121825400,121854354,2017-04-19 11:15:11,>>121854128,,Anonymous,1492365487744.jpg,8FweKeUvkJNg/YE/ugJ4CQ==,GB,,1492600511 121825400,121854371,2017-04-19 11:15:22,">>121854248 England??",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492600522 121825400,121854434,2017-04-19 11:16:03,">>121854371 Yes, but rules are more-or-less the same for the whole UK.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492600563 121825400,121854555,2017-04-19 11:17:22,">>121853985 Bretty good, relatively. Less government in Melbourne than most of those Democrat hellholes. Only thing is fucking nogun",,Anonymous,ausfeel.jpg,ngOpiBYf2M9td8UjsNub3Q==,AU,,1492600642 121825400,121854603,2017-04-19 11:17:49,">>121854434 SHIT.. I wanted to move there. America has no culture and is a terribleness place to raise a family of proud Europeans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492600669 121825400,121854650,2017-04-19 11:18:16,">>121854603 Terrible*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492600696 121825400,121854718,2017-04-19 11:18:54,">>121853893 And this is individuality gone mad. Tell me, how is this different from relativism? What you describe sounds like a dystopia, if anything.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1492600734 121825400,121855000,2017-04-19 11:21:34,">>121853985 far from ideal",,Anonymous,7Q8zhJjzUs_uW_vAQhiupciLMQMwLquC1uR3KVyTLZI.png,hbdk5ZoI1FL6xyW56DgkhA==,GB,,1492600894 121825400,121855046,2017-04-19 11:22:01,">>121854718 But you're not being deprived of collectivism. The only difference is you can't enforce the same collectivisation on people regardless of what they want. We can all agree that it is wrong to control each other with violence. Unless you can prove that you have the right to do so.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492600921 121825400,121855079,2017-04-19 11:22:23,">>121854603 You probably have a very limited understanding of what culture is. There is no space outside of culture. There is no ""a-cultural"" being. You may hate the culture in which you live, but you do not for that reason sit outside of culture. >>121854718 What is it that is mad about it? All systems must account for the fact that people are different and must attempt to harmonize these differences in some way. Non aggression is already the way we harmonize those differences in a great majority of cases.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492600943 121825400,121855331,2017-04-19 11:24:47,">>121854718 >would allow people to thrive as they wish >sounds like a dystopia Are you fucked in the head lad?",,Anonymous,don't bait me.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1492601087 121825400,121855563,2017-04-19 11:26:54,">>121854718 This >>121855046 What is your answer - force people to wish how they don't want to? Most aren't 'hermits' anyway - we are social creatures who build communities, to better ourselves, our family, and our nation.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492601214 121825400,121855647,2017-04-19 11:27:53,">>121855000 Outside of London?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492601273 121825400,121855898,2017-04-19 11:30:22,">>121855647 Most urban areas are CCTV-ridden statist hellholes",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492601422 121825400,121856032,2017-04-19 11:31:41,">>121855898 Will the countryside Be fucked in a few gens?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492601501 121825400,121856231,2017-04-19 11:33:31,">>121856032 It's getting that way already The UK needs helicopters ASAP",,Anonymous,xtxemnazk5ly.gif,mxQmDsPGsIWu1Hmpa66joA==,GB,,1492601611 121825400,121856294,2017-04-19 11:34:08,">>121855046 Yet you think you'll be able to escape the inevitable order that will be created from the chaos that is your ideological system. You're not going to get very far with this ideology. What rights are you talking about? Let's be clear here, you won't have any rights without a state, and no amount of 'NAP' will help you. >>121855079 Sounds like you're making an argument for multiculturalism here. >>121855563 If force is the word you wish to use, sure. I don't give a fuck about your 'NAP'.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1492601648 121825400,121856363,2017-04-19 11:34:47,">supporting ((free trade)), multinational corporations and the exploitation of your workers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492601687 121825400,121856468,2017-04-19 11:35:51,">>121825400 Can I ask exactly what a ""libertarian"" is? I've taken several political ideology tests and came up with that result. I have no idea what it means though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492601751 121825400,121856518,2017-04-19 11:36:17,">>121856468 Watch Ron Paul on youtube",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492601777 121825400,121856532,2017-04-19 11:36:23,">>121856294 >if force is the word you wish to use, sure Go fuck yourself then you communist.",,Anonymous,file.png,DysYYGVsk8eZxZXNgAVMHQ==,GB,,1492601783 121825400,121856648,2017-04-19 11:37:20,">>121856294 >I don't give a fuck about your 'NAP'. Get the helicopter",,Anonymous,rippacifists.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1492601840 121825400,121856654,2017-04-19 11:37:21,">>121856532 >Anyone who disagrees with the 'NAP' is a commie This is why your movement is a joke.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1492601841 121825400,121856930,2017-04-19 11:40:00,">>121856654 You're advocating for murder you dumb fuck",,Anonymous,be a dick.jpg,IKd2SuUzz5j6SaKSFmrS6w==,US,,1492602000 121825400,121856960,2017-04-19 11:40:14,">>121827800 Nice, she's the worst libertarian writer.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492602014 121825400,121856964,2017-04-19 11:40:17,">>121856654 No, forceful removal of people from their jobs, destruction of their livelihoods, all in some vague attempt to prevent 'individualism' is akin to any form of authoritarian communism. Like Stalin before you, your movement would lead to the deaths of millions. And don't you dare have the audacity to say that yours would somehow be 'fairer' or you have the capacity to formulate a system in which this wouldn't be the end result.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492602017 121825400,121857170,2017-04-19 11:42:10,"What does /lrg/ think about the Dark Enlightenment/Neoreaction movement that started with Mencius Moldbug and Nick Land? I would describe it as ""post-libertarian"" in that it doesn't embrace the ""muh free markets above all"" philosophy. It also opposes the what the Enlightenment wrought, particularly democracy, the mass man, and the fervent striving for social equality by SJW types. It has been embraced by the likes of Peter Thiel and Steve Bannon. You might start with ""Why I am Not a Libertarian"" by Mencius Moldbug if you are interested in further reading. http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-i-am-not-libertarian.html",,Anonymous,neocat.jpg,oRLTk5VchP4Eu2BEKHxzng==,US,,1492602130 121825400,121857432,2017-04-19 11:44:38,">>121857170 I don't",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492602278 121825400,121857477,2017-04-19 11:45:01,">>121856930 >""Poke someone, violating the 'NAP' >FUCKING MURDER Really activated my almonds there buddy. >>121856964 You're sitting there by your computer still assuming I'm some sort of communist because I think your movement is a joke and your 'NAP' silly. I don't know the correct word for the fallacy you're currently spouting, but you're clearly imagining things. Is it projecting? I don't know.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1492602301 121825400,121857510,2017-04-19 11:45:21,">>121827897 Well if we accept that people lacking the equality edicts of a state generally prefer to be around people of their own race and beliefs, then this very subtle bias will put minorities at a disadvantage to compete, likely not a huge one, but enough to not be negligible in profits. This economic pressure would likely push minorities out to places where they would be a majority and therefore have advantages over minorities and bolster majority communities. The likely exception to sucha state of homogenised communities being defended by market forces, is in trading and finance, where inter communal transaction is necessary, but certainly not defining of demographics. In this case, a Hoppean transitional measure of minority expulsion would not be necessary.",,Anonymous,CgGZisPW8AAQ51O.jpg,mgdcjk/HpKjCeX6WB76Sfg==,GB,,1492602321 121825400,121857513,2017-04-19 11:45:24,">>121856294 >Sounds like you're making an argument for multiculturalism here. Since I consider liberty to itself be a cultural phenomenon I could hardly be described as a multiculturalist. I firmly believe that multi ethnic societies are inimical to freedom. These bring conflicts and, possibly, war and, as we know, war is the health of the state. (Consider, for instance, that because of our commitment to ""multiculturalism"", government are now pressured more and more to impose ""inclusive"" education curriculum on the population at large, while anti Islamophobia bills are being endorsed by our representatives. Meanwhile, affirmative action quotas need to be established so as to insure that inter ethnic tensions are minimized. Speech needs to be tightly controlled to avoid ""incident"" over sensitive inter ethnic issues. Racially based discrimination has been made illegal and the viability of various equalization programs are studied so as to insure ""equal"" representation of various ethnic groups at all levels of society. I am no big fan of multiculturalism. I believe it to be a form of betrayal of the west.) >>121857170 I try not to be a universalist, dogmatic and a-historical libertarian. I fully recognize that liberty is not a human given.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492602324 121825400,121857562,2017-04-19 11:45:48,"“Your ship cannot double Cape Horn by its excellent plans of voting. The ship may vote this and that, above decks and below, in the most harmonious exquisitely constitutional manner: the ship, to get round Cape horn, will find a set of conditions already voted for, and fixed with adamantine rigor, by the ancient Elemental Powers, who are entirely careless how you vote.” – Thomas Carlyle, Latter-day Pamphlets",,Anonymous,neokitty.png,yUYj3AT6ED4Vzf0kh1jO+A==,US,,1492602348 121825400,121857692,2017-04-19 11:47:00,">>121857170 Consider also the anti-democratic bent that is currently alive and well within the libertarian movement, in large part thanks to Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492602420 121825400,121857853,2017-04-19 11:48:31,">>121856654 It only takes a small group of people who dont give a fuck about the 'NAP' and then your libertarian utopia is done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492602511 121825400,121857915,2017-04-19 11:48:57,">>121857513 I agree with everything you said in this post, I don't think however being a pacifist about is the right way. Nothing will be accomplished with the 'NAP'. Nothing.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1492602537 121825400,121858103,2017-04-19 11:50:48,">>121857853 Which is why it's a terrible Utopia, just like the commie one.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1492602648 121825400,121858107,2017-04-19 11:50:49,">>121857915 The NAP is not a tool but a regulative or evaluative principle. It is an ideal to be established and enforced through non NAP means. The substratum of a culture, its material base, is a people (aka a nation) and our -- at least my --view is not that the NAP, in and of itself, will accomplish anything. I do not believe in the ""motive force"" of idea. It is people who act and establish a social order.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492602649 121825400,121858130,2017-04-19 11:51:03,">>121857477 I asked you why you thought it was a joke, and you consistently stated that it was to do with individuality. You said it needed to be scrapped and you would force people to not pursue their own goals. The only end goal here is communism. This is beyond NatSoc, which I'm sure you LARP as anyway. You are yet to state why else you think the movement is a joke or why the NAP is silly, apart from the fact that you want some authoritarian body killing people. You might not think you are a communist, you might not even advocated it, but you are insane.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492602663 121825400,121858488,2017-04-19 11:54:40,">>121857915 You physically remove people who reject the NAP. You negotiate with people who violate the NAP.",,Anonymous,puristmeme.png,A937qX30pnPINJA1ukgbSA==,US,,1492602880 121825400,121858671,2017-04-19 11:56:26,">>121857853 >>121858103 >It only takes a small group of people who dont give a fuck about the 'NAP' This isn't /ancap/. Even the most ardent Libertarians would say that protection of citizens and a judicial court of law is necessary via a state. Those 'not giving a fuck' about the NAP would get sent to jail. If the state doesn't exist, private militia will. >inb4 they don't exist http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/the-9-largest-private-armies-in-the-world-what-are-they-fighting-for-179460/?singlepage=1",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492602986 121825400,121858843,2017-04-19 11:58:05,">>121830901 *enter Clint Eastwood* Deserve's got nothin to do with it Anyway, since this thread is tl;dr I'm just going to drop a friendly reminder that the Alt-right is metapolitical. It is consistent with Hoppe libertarianism. What kind of institutional/economic framework we want is a great thing for autists to work on, but don't expect attention. White identity is bigger than the Mises Institute for Fedoraed Studies. By all means, build your praxeological systems. They're fine. Cultural dudeweedisism is the problem, but you know this, it's /lrg/. Just understand that the main, ahem, thrust of the Alt-right is building White pride and making white vaginas tingle for home and hearth again. Socially adept people like Richard Spencer and Chad are going to be doing that. And if you're an autist, don't resent them. Be like that sickly fuck Nietzsche and advocate for your betters, not just yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492603085 121825400,121859451,2017-04-19 12:04:04,">>121858843 I agreed with most of this until you called Richard Spencer socially adept. Also, White Pride is not the same as alt-right.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492603444 121825400,121859846,2017-04-19 12:07:58,">>121852141 Agreed it would appear that the most critical division of our age is not left/right but libertarian/authoritarian >>121852152 Will check out the debate after shift >>121852404 Makes sense, fiscal conservatism is needed to foster a libertarian society. It makes sense to me now, I wasn't considering left/right economics >>121852550 Well put, the coalition of convenience between the moral conservatives and economic conservatives on the right is as unhelpful for discussion as the socialist and socially liberal coalition on the left. Thanks for the responses, my question has been pretty damn well answered. I suppose my full political label would be: Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative Libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492603678 121825400,121860092,2017-04-19 12:10:15,">>121859451 I'm sure he would Wojak it in the corner at a party while you picked up chicks Let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Spence is getting like an A- right now If there's another movement called White Pride idgaf, the Alt-right is white and proud of it so w/e",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492603815 121930604,121930604,2017-04-19 21:28:29,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg The previous thread, which raised the question of how traditionalism and tribalism factor into libertarian ideology, generated very insightful, productive discussion. I encourage everyone to continue this kind of discussion. >>121825400",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Pagan Min.png,6zL/R0XkLE9M0K+E9UTkSg==,US,,1492637309 121930604,121930719,2017-04-19 21:29:23,,,Anonymous,Ludwig von Mises 576x720.jpg,ioU5s4QpM4uJqUg8ZZ9/5w==,US,,1492637363 121930604,121930796,2017-04-19 21:30:03,,,Anonymous,lrg rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1492637403 121930604,121930879,2017-04-19 21:30:44,"RAICO RADIO LECTURES: >The European Miracle https://mises.org/library/1-european-miracle >Classical Liberalism https://mises.org/library/2-classical-liberalism >John Stuart Mill https://mises.org/library/3-john-stuart-mill >Class and Conflict https://mises.org/library/4-class-and-conflict >War, Peace, and the Industrial Revolution https://mises.org/library/5-war-peace-and-industrial-revolution >The New World of Capitalism https://mises.org/library/6-new-world-capitalism >The anti capitalists https://mises.org/library/7-anti-capitalists >The planned society https://mises.org/library/8-planned-society >The first world war https://mises.org/library/9-first-world-war >Classical liberalism and the welfare-warfare state https://mises.org/library/10-classical-liberalism-and-welfare-warfare-state",,Anonymous,Raico.jpg,pLCNE1JB64vKYgC87e5s5Q==,US,,1492637444 121930604,121930974,2017-04-19 21:31:40,,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1492637500 121930604,121931480,2017-04-19 21:35:27,"Some libertarian music: Harry Pollitt — the Limeliters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIaRyaQw4N0 Capitalism — Oingo Boingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqXAW2snGMI p h y s i c a l r e m o v a l https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492637727 121930604,121931721,2017-04-19 21:37:15,Volunteering is it a meme?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492637835 121930604,121932172,2017-04-19 21:40:49,">>121931721 It's only a meme if you're forced to do it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492638049 121978617,121978617,2017-04-20 06:08:03,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DUDEWEED EDITION,Anonymous,Classic2.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1492668483 121978617,121978710,2017-04-20 06:09:24,Heh.. roa...,,Anonymous,1491157428793.png,HF6tF1Ny3KCfYm8rzBDrJg==,AU,,1492668564 121978617,121978914,2017-04-20 06:12:07,"Non-Aggression is NOT a guideline Non-Aggression is a relationship.",,Anonymous,RPV19Q4LN1KlFo8PK732zajI2wuGMz6kfPIsGakF37I.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,US,,1492668727 121978617,121979381,2017-04-20 06:18:03,,,Anonymous,2M1S2LnvxCNn5yL6NeDGW2CnA-Iymd2pVXyN69dMlO0.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,US,,1492669083 121978617,121980260,2017-04-20 06:30:07,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1492669807 121978617,121981446,2017-04-20 06:44:56,Hayek bump,,Anonymous,tfw to clever too use helicopters.png,ACU6pKCeca5UM0X5NqimKQ==,GB,,1492670696 121978617,121981621,2017-04-20 06:47:09,">>121980260 Any chance this could be a bit more normie-tier? e.g. replacing the word filth, the ((())), and so on. Only because others it's kinda hitting a brick wall in terms of getting the message out. Shock therapy only works up until a point.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492670829 121978617,121981645,2017-04-20 06:47:27,"Fuck the poor, blaze it faggots",,Anonymous,1491774328231_0.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1492670847 121978617,121981807,2017-04-20 06:49:35,">>121981621 I guess so, it's kinda meant to be edgy and radical. I want lrg tier libertarians to get angry and motivated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492670975 121978617,121981998,2017-04-20 06:51:59,">>121981807 It's cringeworthy",,Anonymous,1487605080198.png,lfou3h72H27GVlhVrIe9Tg==,GB,,1492671119 121978617,121982083,2017-04-20 06:53:09,">>121980260 >muh free voluntary association >those damn jews always enrich themselves through crony capitalism",,Anonymous,ancap nazi.jpg,YXYJ29CzLQ9WBy87mkmBjA==,SI,,1492671189 121978617,121982378,2017-04-20 06:56:33,">>121982083 Those jews enrich themselves by inserting themselves into the political structure and lobbying for socialist regulations to favor their buddies corporations",,Anonymous,Normal_Ancap.png,0cj87/YtlHkwyisfLCRUVQ==,US,,1492671393 121978617,121982458,2017-04-20 06:57:35,">>121978914 saved",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1492671455 121978617,121982750,2017-04-20 07:01:36,>>121981998,,Anonymous,1491751225858.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,GB,,1492671696 121978617,121982974,2017-04-20 07:04:41,">>121981621 the normie tier of this is profiting from your advantage knowledge of how the world is trending it's the confiest ancap type",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1492671881 121978617,121984077,2017-04-20 07:18:43,,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag_1.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1492672723 121978617,121985139,2017-04-20 07:31:38,SNEK BUMP,,Anonymous,1492365129299.jpg,8HrPFAGAiSxAYhjM1M6pmg==,GB,,1492673498 121978617,121985666,2017-04-20 07:38:00,Who here is /dudeweed/ for Hitler's birthday?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492673880 121978617,121988104,2017-04-20 08:07:17,">>121985666 checked",,Anonymous,16681457_174070159752891_6617106153731889763_n.jpg,NyWTfS95I/fTk6a3UKYS2g==,BE,,1492675637 121978617,121988895,2017-04-20 08:16:26,">>121985666 >checked",,Anonymous,1491757322897.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,GB,,1492676186 121978617,121989685,2017-04-20 08:26:24,">>121988895 >Hitler and Marx getting hotboxxed by a friendly ancap bro.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492676784 121978617,121989941,2017-04-20 08:29:56,>>121978617,,Anonymous,1492248977636.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,DE,,1492676996 121978617,121989983,2017-04-20 08:30:32,Hello lads. Here's your (a?) statistic du jour.,,Anonymous,BLS producer price index.jpg,t366prCVpdy26JQpFrdyYA==,CA,,1492677032 121978617,121990048,2017-04-20 08:31:19,"Anyone encountered this book? Curious about the points presented, as I can only find reviews of it, one of which goes: Daniel Attas’s subject is the libertarianism which has, thus far, found its fullest philosophical expres- sion in Robert Nozick’s Anarchy, State, and Utopia . Claiming to derive inspiration from Locke, such libertarianism takes freedom as its sole fundamen- tal value. It construes the latter in terms of ‘self- ownership’ and the possession of fundamental rights, construed in their turn as property rights. Consequently, it also holds that, with the excep- tion of the (supposedly inalienable) right to one’s ‘own’ self, such rights – or ‘entitlements’ – can be transferred from one individual to another, but only in ways which meet with the consent of those directly involved; that is, normally by sale, gift or bequest. Libertarianism is, thus, a powerful representation of the moral case for the free market. 1/2",,Anonymous,9780754652588.jpg,8duw5Up33v5GmZ/CdHO+CQ==,ZA,,1492677079 121978617,121990192,2017-04-20 08:33:24,">>121990048 Attas’s technique is to subject the libertarian edifice to sustained critical pressure at certain structurally key points. These are: (1) libertarian- ism’s analysis of the concept of freedom and the supposition that any sort of property right can be grounded in it; (2) the notion of ‘self-ownership’ (supposedly parallel to Locke’s claim that we each have a property in our own ‘persons’); (3) the idea that an individual can acquire a property right in a natural resource by removing it from the common stock, or from an unowned state, in certain specific ways (Locke’s claim that such a right can be acquired by ‘mixing one’s labour with nature’ being an example); (4) the claim that one necessarily acquires a property right in that which one produces. Attas deploys an array of arguments in order to demonstrate that none of the foregoing can withstand close analysis. He is particularly – and persuasively – dismissive of the last, insisting that ‘the modern developed market economy is a mechanism of joint production’ (p. 165). From this it follows that the libertarian representation of such an economy as a set of ongoing bilateral exchanges – individual entitle- ments being transferred from one person to another at each stage – is fundamentally unrealistic. The great virtue of this book lies in its detailed approach, something to which it is impossible to do justice in a short review. Contrasting interpre- tations of libertarian claims are outlined, tested and found wanting. The cumulative effect is a devastating critique from which libertarianism will not easily recover. If this book is anything to go by, Ashgate are to be congratulated on their endeavour to bring ‘high quality research mono- graph publishing back into focus’. Alan Haworth (London Metropolitan University) 2/2 (Mobile posting since IP range blocked)",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1492677204 121978617,121990279,2017-04-20 08:34:38,>>121978617,,Anonymous,1489193290365.jpg,iieA5D260nXMAIDK7CsZqw==,US,,1492677278 121978617,121990383,2017-04-20 08:36:10,">>121989983 Second statistic du jour. Year over year change in federal receipt growth is down, possibly indicating the beginning of a recession.",,Anonymous,receipts.png,qScWpO1mA/PwgSlRBnjZSA==,CA,,1492677370 121978617,121990728,2017-04-20 08:41:04,"HELICOPTER RIDES FOR FASCISTS http://www.strawpoll.me/12730090 DO NOT FUCKING TREAD ON ME",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1492677664 121978617,121990863,2017-04-20 08:42:52,">>121990728 >those 4 voters",,Anonymous,1491847201893.png,Pf1BbhBkujFFxRuqC0CxiA==,GB,,1492677772 121978617,121991013,2017-04-20 08:45:12,">>121990048 I'm not gonna refute but just gonna make some notes. >such rights – or ‘entitlements’ Right away the author makes self ownership into an ""entitlement"", presumably to connote that libertarians are ""entitled"". Cheap rhetorical move. >Libertarianism is, thus, a powerful representation of the moral case for the free market. Libertarianism is first and foremost a case for liberty. Only later is a case for the market made because, if the market were systematically inefficient, there would be not possibility of liberty at all. So it's liberty first, market second. But leftist always assume that libertarians are asshole with ulterior motives, whose only ""real"" interest is the market. >(1) libertarianism’s analysis of the concept of freedom and the supposition that any sort of property right can be grounded in it; What is liberty if not the ability to make your own choices for yourself, and how do you do that without property, most basic of all your own body? >(3) It's unclear to me that libertarianism relies in any substantial way on this theory of ""labor mixing"". >(4) The fact that there is joint production does not in any way negate the idea of ownership. If I have some capital and hire a worker, with an agreement as to the fact that whatever will be produced subsequently will belong to me afterward, then I don't see how you can ""problematize"" this situation to make me lose my property on the basis of the fact that people cooperated in order to produce. >Dr Daniel Attas is Program Director of the Integrative Program: Philosophy, Economics and Political Science at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel. It's an absolute certainty that this man is part of this chattering class whose standing in life does not depend on the market but on state subsidies. I bet he employs an old anti liberty tactic, which is to redefine liberty in such a way that people's choices are excluded from the concept.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492677912 121978617,121991031,2017-04-20 08:45:27,">>121990279 Thanks for stopping by /Leftypol/ Now gtfo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492677927 121978617,121991279,2017-04-20 08:48:49,">>121990279 you do realize that you are EXACTLY THE SAME as the SJWs with your little special snowflake identity politics, right? now go back to tumblr before we gas you",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1492678129 121978617,121991324,2017-04-20 08:49:17,">>121990048 >Exposing the limitations of libertarianism and disclosing its errors, Attas argues that the rights which libertarians adopt with respect to persons (self-ownership), natural resources (original acquisition) and products are indefensible given what liberty must be. >given what livery must be You can be sure that a ""philosopher's"" understanding of liberty will always be one that justifies his control of other people for the purpose of realizing his own dreams of what a good human should be. The Muzz do it all the time. Watch: >true liberty is living in submission to the law of Allah >all other forms of living are tyranny >thus I am justified to impose liberty on you >your choices are false choices Or, in another instance: >your choices are not your choices because you have ""false consciousness"" Or >your choices are not legitimate because you are not discerning enough to know what is in your best interest This is standard and always authoritarian.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492678157 121978617,121991644,2017-04-20 08:52:55,">>121990048 SUID AFRIKA!!!",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492678375 121978617,121992108,2017-04-20 08:59:05,Yuh violate mah n.a.p.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492678745 121978617,121992676,2017-04-20 09:06:22,">>121992108 Good post",,Anonymous,1491849907775.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,GB,,1492679182 121978617,121992946,2017-04-20 09:09:52,Bump,,Anonymous,anarchocute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1492679392 121978617,121993330,2017-04-20 09:14:50,">>121991324 >>121991013 Good summary points. Appreciate the overview analysis. >>121991644 Dankie vir die welkoming broeder. Got interested in this doing research on Rhino poaching and how protection in retaliation of corruption and regulations could save the species: https://rationalstandard.com/saving-the-rhino-free-market-style/ https://rationalstandard.com/domestic-rhino-horn-trade-good-news-rhinos/ That and the proliferation of socialist ideas that saturates the education system coupled with the government doubling down on taxes in order to save the country from its recent credit downgrade to junk status: http://rationalstandard.com/tale-two-downgrades/",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1492679690 121978617,121993434,2017-04-20 09:15:58,"One of the problem of the nat soc and other varieties of nationalist (like white nationalist) is not merely that they do not possess a theory of the nation which preclude them from presenting a vision of what such an entity might be, but they furthermore lack an explanation as to why these nations are actually being destroyed by their own government through the forcible importation of massive amount of third worlders from alien and incompatible culture. By contrast, libertarians do possess an explanation for such a phenomenon. The crisis of the welfare state requires new blood so as to feed the panoply of government programs politicians put in place so as to buy themselves new constituencies. Since the white population of the west, perhaps in part because of the tax burden imposed on it due to this very welfare state, has elected not to replace itself naturally, government have little choice but to place their natural heir into a state of complete marginalization at the benefit of of minorities so as to insure that the state will have some taxable base in the future to insure the sustainability of its redistribution programs.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492679758 121978617,121994618,2017-04-20 09:31:02,">>121993434 From Raico, historian of the libertarians: >That states lends itself legitimacy through the welfare state by buying off more and more constituencies. [...] But now every group in America that's worth pandering to gets benefits and feels that it has a stake in the modern welfare-warfare state. What could possibly represent an end to this? How could this end? I don't see that the welfare state is gonna come to an end by itself. What I see is that as it becomes more and more intractable as we approach the crisis of the welfare state there will -- the politicians and the people in control of the system -- will bring in what has already been suggested by politicians in Europe, including in Germany for instance, and that is ""What we need are 'young' taxpayers to support the pension and the medical care and so on for the retired older non taxpayers now, retired people. Where are these young taxpayer to come from since the Europeans don't seem to be very interested in having kids? And in America the white population does not replace itself. So where are these new taxpayers to come from? And that is then from the third world. [...] >But what will have happened in the meantime is that they will have destroyed the identity, first of all, of the European nations -- there is no such thing, at least as far as I can see, of a France that's one third muslim or an Italy that's one third muslim. I mean there's an Italian STATE, but there's no such thing as an Italian identity that is one third muslim or moore for that matter. So they'll destroy the identity of the European peoples and eventually the American people [...] and I don't think anybody could have predicted that [...] that in order to salvage this never ending system of welfare [...] they would have to simply destroy the historical identity of the countries. https://mises.org/library/10-classical-liberalism-and-welfare-warfare-state",,Anonymous,Ralph Raico 2005.jpg,0RLqG1mObGyzQkQQBJAUlg==,CA,,1492680662 121978617,121995100,2017-04-20 09:36:51,">>121993330 I can give you another philosopher's trick: >no one would WILLINGLY be in error if they could avoid it >some people chose on the basis of error >(they are in error has to what is good for them) >but I, superior philosopher, have pierced the true secret of knowledge and-or life >thus my pronouncements on what's good should trump the will of those lower people who were not blessed with a superior intellect and-or a philosophical education",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492681011 121978617,121996560,2017-04-20 09:54:20,"Is a libertarian society ever at risk of ""building nothing""? Instead we all become hedonistic and historical wastes. By building, I mean societal institutions and practices that are revered by certain men, and feared by others. Ideas that you only entertain in the darkest depths of your mind; world-changing, god-fearing, state-whipped chaos that ensues all, binding them by a common goal or a common enemy.",,Anonymous,why the left wants communism.png,QE+xiNHwk+AAsQqQX97Qnw==,GB,,1492682060 121978617,121997121,2017-04-20 10:00:20,">>121996560 Thats actually a risk but its also another consideration that this could lead to a new golden age, if you don't believe we are in one already",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492682420 121978617,121997420,2017-04-20 10:03:27,">>121996560 Christianity wasn't started by government decree. No man of science, as far as I know, was ever primarily motivated by some state department memo. If everyone turns hedonistic, all the accumulated capital of previous generations starts to whither away, at which point the possibility of hedonism is strongly curtailed. Nature imposes limits on people's behavior. What you're talking about just sounds horrible and is the type of answer that arise in the mind of someone who thinks that society has to be managed. The question ""how shall I manage all these people"" already condition the type of answer you're gonna get, and it's always gonna be totalitarian leaning. It presupposes the need for management, for the imposition of a superior agency over the individual agency of people. >>121997121 We're in an age of relative decline. The only golden age we have is due to the accumulated physical and social capital of previous generation. But from a ""spiritual"" point of view we're just weak. (By spiritual I don't mean religious.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492682607 121978617,121997735,2017-04-20 10:07:07,bump,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1486238335528.jpg,FqVbw5p6f4HLypb5o9lMVg==,DE,,1492682827 121978617,121998065,2017-04-20 10:11:05,">>121997420 >We're in an age of relative decline. The only golden age we have is due to the accumulated physical and social capital of previous generation. But from a ""spiritual"" point of view we're just weak. (By spiritual I don't mean religious.) I think libertarianism will provide the good framework for the next golden, let the da vinci's of our age invent without getting snub'd down by the midnight black boots",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492683065 121978617,121998449,2017-04-20 10:15:20,">>121998065 I think the optimistic future lies in balkanization.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492683320 121978617,121998764,2017-04-20 10:19:01,">>121998449 >121998449 I agree as i think thats what would happen anyways, if state was abolished tomorrow",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492683541 121978617,121999184,2017-04-20 10:24:20,WHat is the best country libertarian bros?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492683860 121978617,121999303,2017-04-20 10:25:36,">>121999184 Somalia you failed to define best",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492683936 121978617,121999357,2017-04-20 10:26:15,">>121999303 Best to live in",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492683975 121978617,121999903,2017-04-20 10:32:10,">>121999357 Switzerland >Hands-off economics >Ethnically homogeneous cantons, cooperate when it suits their interests >Kicks out dirty refugees to preserve their culture I'm on the fence about the compulsory military service. On the one hand, muh NAP, on the other hand, it does train and discipline the population, not to mention it means every citizen is properly armed as well as trained to defend themselves, their families, and their property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492684330 121978617,122000442,2017-04-20 10:38:10,">>121999903 You can get around the military service but it's like a few weeks training it's not bad at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492684690 121978617,122000784,2017-04-20 10:41:54,">>122000442 Huh, then I guess Switzerland is a pretty good country by our standards. I would have made the case for Hong Kong as well, but the PRC has started to put its filthy communist boot down there.",,Anonymous,Recreational Nukem.png,DvoV9/FztdxLjL3NFG0npA==,US,,1492684914 121978617,122000820,2017-04-20 10:42:16,,,Anonymous,17388990_10155188064857264_3554594324893539697_o.jpg,QIUlHrnl9XullFQGYSXmPg==,IE,,1492684936 121978617,122000854,2017-04-20 10:42:38,">>121999903 Defense is always one of those limiting case. I like the idea of a well prepared citizenry. I don't like the idea of a government being able to call people to do X-Y-Z at will.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492684958 121978617,122001128,2017-04-20 10:45:30,">>122000820 I don't understand how you can sustain parasites without forcibly transferring money to them.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492685130 121978617,122001983,2017-04-20 10:54:32,">>122000820 This is an interesting rejection of Rothbardianism. Any link to the full article?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492685672 121978617,122003508,2017-04-20 11:11:26,"Bump with some interesting stats concerning health: >The American Diabetes Association (Association) released new research on March 6, 2013 estimating the total costs of diagnosed diabetes have risen to $245 billion in 2012 from $174 billion in 2007, when the cost was last examined. >This figure represents a 41 percent increase over a five year period. >The total estimated cost of diagnosed diabetes in 2012 is $245 billion, including $176 billion in direct medical costs and $69 billion in reduced productivity. >The largest components of medical expenditures are: >hospital inpatient care (43% of the total medical cost), >prescription medications to treat complications of diabetes (18%), >anti-diabetic agents and diabetes supplies (12%), >physician office visits (9%), and >nursing/residential facility stays (8%). - See more at: http://www.diabetes.org/advocacy/news-events/cost-of-diabetes.html#sthash.MdZUiQRZ.dpuf What's most interesting here is the fact that (1) non whites are twice as likely to suffer from this condition and (2) government intervention in dietary guidelines and government subsidy of certain industry (looking at you corn and fructose corn syrup) probably played an very large role in triggering and diabetes epidemic in the US.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492686686 121978617,122003634,2017-04-20 11:12:38,">>122001983 Don't have the original article for that quote but here are a few on rothbard https://propertarianism.com/2017/03/18/rothbardian-libertarians-common-property-marxists/ https://propertarianism.com/2017/03/18/would-libertarianism-exist-without-marx/ I know it looks like a word salad at first glance but Curt doolittle is a genuine genius, definitely one of the most intelligent people I've ever seen to write about political theory. Read the about section on the website if you to learn and go from there",,Anonymous,17426369_10155187584592264_4423498643699784823_n.jpg,yFEQRd1u/W2E70vBpPArdg==,IE,,1492686758 121978617,122004041,2017-04-20 11:17:28,">>122003634 He certainly strikes me as a pompous asshole. That's not to say that he's wrong, but from what I've read on his website there seems to be some disconnect between the claimed quality and the achievement. (That one dimensional graph turned into a two dimensional graph that implies that religious people don't have low time preference is rather amazing.)",,Anonymous,debt.png,mUOaOIAUm/DHdtoIqGfZvA==,CA,,1492687048 121978617,122004430,2017-04-20 11:21:58,">>121995100 How would you guys argue for libertarianism while holding the assumption of no free will? Neither compatibilist nor ""libertarian"" free will. My usual argument is something like evolutionary/biological ""libertarianism."" Markets and property rights both coincide with the hockey stick of average human welfare and human population (after almost a million years of stagnation despite technological innovation), yet the hockey stick of population self-yields after a certain amount of welfare is achieved. Therefore it is likely we are ""naturally"" inclined towards markets and property rights.",,Anonymous,1408726662385.png,+tRDVJ1SeWr+7z+H+qkG3g==,US,,1492687318 121978617,122005022,2017-04-20 11:28:07,">>122004041 If you consider his writings in the context of the current climate where Rothbard and so are praised for having caused immeasurable damage to libertarianism while dragging it to the lunatic fringe, I'd imagine it's hard not to act like an asshole because you realise the scale of repair that has to be carried out to fix it",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1492687687 121978617,122005067,2017-04-20 11:28:36,">>121999303 Somalia was never libertarian, just a failed state",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492687716 121978617,122005257,2017-04-20 11:30:24,"So, what should right libertarians do in the meantime since there's no Ancapistan? Honestly the idea of anarcho capitalism isn't bad to me, but right now there's no way for it to exist and I feel like our efforts would be better directed by supporting favorable right libertarian candidates in different countries. Just look at how much internet hype Le Pen is getting and how much internet support helped the election in the US to see why that would help the cause. Are there even any parties out there that are favorable to right libertarianism except for maybe the Tea Party and probably UKIP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492687824 121978617,122005349,2017-04-20 11:31:23,"Post other libertarian tier flags than Gadsden, /lrg/",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1492687883 121978617,122005371,2017-04-20 11:31:34,">>122004430 I'd tend to argue that the illusion of free will is itself determined and imposed on us, and that from the affirmation of the idea of determinism, nothing concrete actually follows. In other words, I'd argue that it's about as relevant as a scholastic debate concerning substantial forms. People who obsess over free will are inherently suspicious. They try to escape the concrete realities of life in order to do god know what. >>122005022 It's not clear AT ALL to me that Rothbard did it. The fact of the matter is that libertarianism is a fringe movement, and is consistently conflated with ""cultural libertarianism"" which does not even correspond to private property libertinism as he seems to call it. You cannot read ""Egalitarianism as a revolt against nature"", or Rothbard views concerning feminism, and conclude that he somehow is the great advocate of parasitic degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492687894 121978617,122005468,2017-04-20 11:32:39,">>121978617 Private death squad checking in.",,Anonymous,Private_Owner.png,MdDUTz5TLmIjEyDVAwtVdw==,DE,,1492687959 121978617,122005654,2017-04-20 11:34:42,">>122003634 Didn't Rothbard explicitly reject libertinism as being the equivalent to libertarianism? Or is Doolittle just saying that Rothbard's libertarianism IS libertinism but that Rothbard doesn't realize it? I also wonder what Doolitlle is referring to specifically when he talks about Jewish ghetto ethics/Russian serfdom ethics as it relates to Rothbard's philosophy. Any insight?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492688082 121978617,122006048,2017-04-20 11:39:21,">>121988895 Good luck with that capitalist faggot",,Anonymous,IMG_3908.jpg,I1KKTa7yFgot89YevLaFtQ==,US,,1492688361 121978617,122006084,2017-04-20 11:39:42,">>121978617 so when are ancaps going to stray away from anarchism since open boarders are fucking retarded?",,Anonymous,Political_chart.svg.png,z8h+enM90eOaTI0epXwIrA==,US,,1492688382 121978617,122006112,2017-04-20 11:39:57,">>122005654 Considering the fact that guy seems to like ""aristocratic"" values and emphasize ""truthful speech"" I'm just about certain that we're in the presence of some crypto trad dude that seeks to integrate the insight of libertarianism with those of other, anti libertarians school of thought. So basically not a libertarian. I'm somewhat sympathetic to these views but the guy is immediately off putting.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492688397 121978617,122006195,2017-04-20 11:40:48,">>122003634 >The judicial state as we understand it, evolved everywhere... The universality of this historical fact contradicts all libertarian dogma both about the nature of man, the state of man, and the process of resolving disputes. That's just, false. Zomia exists til this day, there is no effective judicial superstate to regulate interstate commerce, and just because we've had a few hundred years (~300) of states being popular can hardly be seen as ""universal"" with primitive anarchic/anarchic-like societies such as ireland and iceland in the past lasting upwards of a millennium. Hell, even this website is effectively stateless in terms of what the governments of the world can actually achieve. >>122005371 I would agree on the first half, but the second half depends on what you mean with ""obsess."" I find the topic interesting for issues related to biomedical and AI research for example.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492688448 121978617,122006428,2017-04-20 11:43:13,">>122006084 Who said ancap inherently means open borders? Isn't this thread evidence against that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492688593 121978617,122006527,2017-04-20 11:44:33,">>122006428 >Who said ancap inherently means open borders? because on paper it is, people here trying to revise that is another thing. My main problem with libertarian is their open boarder/no country dogshit..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492688673 121978617,122006560,2017-04-20 11:44:53,">>122006084 That's the vibe I got. He almost sounded like Evola or Spengler denouncing modernity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492688693 121978617,122006674,2017-04-20 11:46:11,">>122005257 Move to the same country and live peacefully tigether",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492688771 121978617,122006774,2017-04-20 11:47:18,">>122006527 You're thinking of Reddit libertarianism. In an ancap country, there would be different communities based on private property that can choose to allow who they choose to join them. Not really true borders, but property rights allow communities to choose who can enter, and you're allowed to use self defense to enforce that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492688838 121978617,122006963,2017-04-20 11:49:04,">>122006527 Private property is a border. ancapistan would literally just be a massive patchwork of private property, most likely similar to a city state. And it doesn't preclude pride in ones society, hell, it'd make more sense to be proud to live in a stateless society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492688944 121978617,122007002,2017-04-20 11:49:30,">>121991279 ""Special snowflake ideology"" You say that while being an Ancap faggot. Nice.",,Anonymous,IMG_3875.jpg,g58QkziJrlE/TpA2XFG2/g==,US,,1492688970 121978617,122007101,2017-04-20 11:50:38,">>122007002 Fuck back off to your ""sassy"" facebook page.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492689038 121978617,122007105,2017-04-20 11:50:41,">>122006084 They are leaving the movement and getting on board with either traditionalism or the Dark Enlightment/Neoreaction movement, which was influenced by the writings of Nick Land and Mencius Moldbug.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492689041 121978617,122007169,2017-04-20 11:51:32,">>122007101 Nigga who the fuck uses Facebook anymore",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492689092 121978617,122007230,2017-04-20 11:52:08,">>122007002 >Niggers >Playing Scrabble",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492689128 121978617,122007250,2017-04-20 11:52:16,">>121978617 Watch Libertarianism get BTFO by based E Michael Jones. Start at 19:20. You're all Jewish puppets. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BmfMb_8YXkA",,Anonymous,emj.jpg,erwYc6bg2IFZnvwEPY9oQA==,US,,1492689136 121978617,122007341,2017-04-20 11:53:01,">>122000820 >Libertinism encompasses only private property Muh glove adjusted definition to fit with my bias >Leaves open parasitism on normative, cultural, insitutional, monumental and genetic capital 0 arguments provided about how it does so. >blackmail Again, specially crafted definition of a term in order to fit his agenda. If voluntary interactions can potentially be blackmail, where do we draw the line? >You may only engage in Productive, Fully Informed, Warrantied, Voluntary Exchange, Limited to Externality of the Same Criteria I don't think the author realizes what this would entail. The amount of information required for basic human interactions that, through this definition of voluntary, you would need is totally absurd. Basically, it would add a corset on any movement which would cripple society immensely. Plus he adopts a paternalist authoritarian attitude, this could lead to claiming dumb people should have no agency whatsoever. And this guy is an intellectual?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492689181 121978617,122007514,2017-04-20 11:54:45,">>122006774 But all this does is smash current political/national boarders and redraws them. So now theres Ancapistan, but also commie land, american federal republic land, socalist land ect. I still like America, I just want a less intrusive government on the liberties of the people and an end to useless wars and, on the flip side, a reigning in on big business who would seek to undermine the well being of the nation for their own profits.",,Anonymous,SolidusSnake_at_FederalHall_Panel-6.png,lZxBzyJcQ7GMkiwqbZX4tQ==,US,,1492689285 121978617,122007597,2017-04-20 11:55:42,">>122006195 >biomedical and AI research I don't see how research would be affected by philosophical questions of free will.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492689342 121978617,122007721,2017-04-20 11:57:00,"How based is /lrg/? How do you feel about unlimited liability, freedom of association, and collective property (public spaces)?",,Anonymous,1492637015189.png,QGiD1FCADsZN9Ult5rEwRA==,US,,1492689420 121978617,122007807,2017-04-20 11:58:01,">>122007514 >So now theres Ancapistan, but also commie land, american federal republic land, socalist land ect. So... the united states? Just with one state being more free? >>122007597 Ethics, longevity research. Bit of crossover with the hard problem of consciousness and free will.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492689481 121978617,122008163,2017-04-20 12:01:16,">>122007721 Tf is unlimited liability? We are Hoppe ancaps more or less",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492689676 121978617,122008201,2017-04-20 12:01:33,http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/58f8daf2821c8-hoppean-takeover-so-to-speak.php,,Anonymous,hoppean snek.gif,En4w89ZgogsndLKV/ufc1g==,PT,,1492689693 121978617,122008243,2017-04-20 12:02:00,">>122007514 >But all this does is smash current political/national boarders and redraws them. So now theres Ancapistan, but also commie land, american federal republic land, socalist land ect You're literally one step away from getting the concept of anarcho-capitalism and I say this with admiration and hopeful this I'm going to explain will help you. These private communities/cities/micro-states would be owned by someone, with economic interests. We can imagine how commie land and socialist land will soon be incredibly poor in comparison with prosperous communities, since people can't be retained against their will, migration patterns will show us what we already know: People want to live in mostly-white communities with minimum laws. With that in mind, we can deduct that the market will adapt to this demand by enforcing such values, restricted immigration, capitalism, and no democracy will be values that the rich will want for themselves, and the poor will follow the rich because that's where jobs and opportunities will be in. Eventually those socialist areas will be bought off because they won't be able to compete and the country will adopt a more or less uniform state.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492689720 121978617,122008412,2017-04-20 12:03:42,">>122007807 >So... the united states? they arent united though, they are different ""countries"" with completely different ideologies. I do agree with states rights though. If one state wants to elect an ancap mayor to reduce the state government, good for him. But for a UNITED states to work, there needs to be a unifier, other wise it will just devolve into sectarian violence. Either along ideological or ethnic lines. Maybe even both. I know theres a tendency to diefy them, which is not what Im trying to do, but the founding fathers were all Renaissance Men and the Republic they established is the best to me, so I dont want to demolish that to form some completely new country, especially one based on an untested philsophy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492689822 121978617,122008456,2017-04-20 12:04:12,">>122007807 >Ethics, longevity research. I still don't see it. I can imagine no researcher or concrete actor anywhere actually waiting for some answer on free will so as to determine his subsequent course of action. Nobody is waiting for an answer on this, and I don't think anyone actually acts differently on the basis of their belief concerning free will. >>122007721 >collective property (public spaces)? There is, to be sure, no problem with individuals willingly agreeing on some contract as to how they will control a certain piece of property through an organizational structure.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492689852 121978617,122008614,2017-04-20 12:05:56,">>122008412 >But for a UNITED states to work, there needs to be a unifier, other wise it will just devolve into sectarian violence If there's no central government power over which to fight why would different communities necessarily be at each other's throat? It can always happen but I doubt that people actively seek war when they can avoid it. (Unless they're kings and other sorts of maniac.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492689956 121978617,122008681,2017-04-20 12:06:38,">>122008456 Interest, not necessarily something I think is a major problem. I'm not waiting for the answer while doing my research, I just find the ideas interesting to think about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492689998 121978617,122009053,2017-04-20 12:10:30,">>122008163 >unlimited liabilty The way I see it, the problem with modern capitalism is three things: -the passing of limited liability laws (capitalists are not liable for harm they cause) -the passing of civil rights laws (capitalists are not free to serve a particular class) -regulations, licensing, red tape, or anything which increases the barrier to entry",,Anonymous,1492323158453.jpg,Mg9nsJRpzxFHo+h5SkBa6Q==,US,,1492690230 121978617,122009166,2017-04-20 12:11:41,">>122009053 problems >normies don't understand neither of those",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1492690301 121978617,122009540,2017-04-20 12:15:22,">>122008614 >If there's no central government power over which to fight why would different communities necessarily be at each other's throat? well if theres no central authority then there is no united states in the first place. >(Unless they're kings and other sorts of maniac. well what if thats one of the voluntary societies formed? What if a white supremacist community is established right next to a black supremacist one? You dont think some shit is going to start?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492690522 121978617,122009619,2017-04-20 12:16:07,">>122009053 serve/EMPLOY a particular class* To elaborate, I think the civil rights and the attempt at balancing of equality and liberty is impossible, because it destroys the incentive to be productive. We can solve the issue of inequality with charity (conservatives give more to charity than liberals, btw). A good analogy for this is if society were represented with the productive class pulling the cart of civilization, at first only the truly disabled will get to ride in the cart (this can be managed through charity). If people can simply choose to ride in the cart at will, whether this is through democracy or some other method, eventually there will be so many people riding in the cart that the productive class will decide it's not worth pulling and civilization comes to a halt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492690567 121978617,122009934,2017-04-20 12:19:29,">>121978617 Lolbergs are cancer. I honestly prefer pinkos to lolbergsteins. Ron Paul: Immigration not solved by barbed wire, guns http://www.theguardian.com/world/feedarticle/10072567 >Paul blasted politicians who blame immigrants for causing the country's economic problems. He compared the situation to Nazi Germany's targeting of Jews in the 1930s. Ron Paul is Anti-Racist http://www.theguardian.com/world/feedarticle/10072567 >Haaretz: In the past, you have been accused by various groups, including the Anti-Defamation League, of accepting the support of racist and anti-Semitic elements and of not doing anything to distance yourself from them. What is your reaction to this accusation? Ron Paul: I have always made it clear, and will continue to do so, that my message is based on the rights of all people to be treated equally. Any type of racism or anti-Semitism is incompatible with my philosophy. Ludwig von Mises, the great economist whose writing helped inspire my political career, was a Jew who was forced to leave his native Austria to escape the Nazis. > Mises wrote about the folly of seeing people as part of groups rather than as individuals. > Therefore, for me to advance anti-Semitism in any way would be a betrayal of my own intellectual heritage. >Nation and race do not coincide; there is no nation of pure blood. All peoples have arisen from a mixture of races. - Ludwig von Mises, Nation, State, and Economy, page 10",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492690769 121978617,122009991,2017-04-20 12:20:01,">>122009934 >The fundamental discrepancies in worldview and patterns of behavior do not correspond to differences in race, nationality or class affiliation.' - Ludwig von Mises, Human Action, page 87 >It is neither natural nor necessary that the members of the same race or the inhabitants of the same country cooperate with one another more closely than with members of other races or inhabitants of other countries. The ideas of race solidarity and racial hatred are no less ideas than any other ideas, and only where they are accepted by the individuals do they result in corresponding action. - Ludwig von Mises, The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science, page 81 >There cannot be the slightest doubt that migration barriers diminish the productivity of human labor. - Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism, page 139 >The closed-door policy is one of the root causes of our wars. - Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government, page 263 >Libertarians have generally welcomed immigration, and on very simple grounds. According to the ""non-aggression axiom,"" it is wrong to aggress against the person or property of anyone who has not himself committed such aggression. To restrict the free movement of peoples across borders is thus to engage in unjustified aggression, and is therefore anathema. - Tom Woods, Liberty and Immigration >We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally. - Official Libertarian Political Platform, 2004 election cycle Ron Paul Tells Newsmax: I Support Israel http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/paul-israel-support-wead/2011/12/07/id/420247 >In an exclusive Newsmax interview, Congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul confirmed his support for Israel",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492690801 121978617,122010003,2017-04-20 12:20:08,">>122009540 >White Supremistan vs. Black Supremistan Naturally, there would be some animosity between the two. However, I do not believe there would be an immediate cause for war, as long as the whites don't enter the black nation and vice versa. Wars don't just start out of nowhere, there has to be an instigator, but there can be no instigator if the two nations enforce their borders and physically remove (or gas) whoever's in the wrong country. Franz Ferdinand would not have been shot if Gavrilo Princip and the other Serbs were kept out of Bosnia.",,Anonymous,naga aggression principle.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,US,,1492690808 121978617,122010052,2017-04-20 12:20:37,>>122009991,,Anonymous,1418257181710.png,C/bAfQdVmQcLd0nEV7Er8Q==,US,,1492690837 121978617,122010211,2017-04-20 12:22:04,">>122009619 Good paper in Nature's Human Behavior on this topic, promising that across cultural lines most think this way already.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492690924 121978617,122010216,2017-04-20 12:22:06,">>122010003 >>We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally. >- Official Libertarian Political Platform, 2004 election cycle",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492690926 121978617,122010228,2017-04-20 12:22:10,">>122009166 So am I to understand this thread is about creating memes that make libertarianism appeal to the masses, or is this thread for the discussion of libertarian means and ends? If the former, we could do a lot better job detailing how social organization occurs sans the state, why markets are efficient, and why organic social organization and efficiency are generally good. I see too many liberals on the one hand who think libertarianism is about weed and faggotry and other products of welfarism, and fascists on the other side who think central planning is economically viable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492690930 121978617,122010253,2017-04-20 12:22:22,">>121982750 best one yet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492690942 121978617,122010290,2017-04-20 12:22:50,">>122009540 >well what if thats one of the voluntary societies formed? I have no doubt that it would be one of the society formed. We cannot presume that everyone will be NAP lovers. There will be ""barbarian bands"" that exist outside the norms and the territory of ancapistan. The founders very rightly recognized that the perpetual threat of war was extremely inimical to liberty. I don't have an answer for this and it's one of the reason I'm not a full blown ancap. But I still find the defense of liberty to be the most attractive option, so I hang out in the neighborhood. >>122009934 See >>121994618",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492690970 121978617,122010369,2017-04-20 12:23:36,>it's another illiterate naziboos shit up /lrg/ episode,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691016 121978617,122010509,2017-04-20 12:24:53,">>122010228 >how social organization occurs sans the state You mean how it inevitably leads to formation of a state? ;^}",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691093 121978617,122010545,2017-04-20 12:25:14,">>122010216 >Libertarian Party See >>121978617 The libertarian party is a joke. >>122010369 We're on pol. If anything this discussion has been fairly good all things considered.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691114 121978617,122010836,2017-04-20 12:28:00,">>122010369 >not sharpening your skills against the nazbol",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492691280 121978617,122011039,2017-04-20 12:29:45,">>122010290 > See Why? The post you told me to look at says nothing of value. Isnt Raico a Jew?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691385 121978617,122011087,2017-04-20 12:30:15,">>122010052 >>122009991 >>122009934 Good points. By far the biggest folly of libertarians are their notion of universalism and radical individualism. They completely ignore human tribalism and in-group/out-group dynamics, as well as the unique culture and history that made American libertarianism. Other cultures cannot even comprehend their way of thinking, and these people must be treated as an out-group. The reason we must treat people who do not identify with libertarians as a collective is they will not police themselves, because they don't identify with our values. However, treating out-groups as a collective WILL cause them to police themselves. We can still treat those who do identify with libertarian values, i.e. the in-group, as individuals because they respond to social pressure. If you threaten a Muslim with death, he will ignore you, but if you threaten their whole family then they will comply. Traditionally, out-groups were identified easily and using common sense. These days it's called ""discrimination"" (I like to call it discernment) to see others as truly other.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691415 121978617,122011222,2017-04-20 12:31:30,">>122007721 holy shit that webm",,Anonymous,1492633212429.webm,xEVrjs82srZy6etZFP/owA==,US,,1492691490 121978617,122011225,2017-04-20 12:31:33,">>122011039 Not that I know of. ""Says nothing of value""? He laments and explain the destruction of European identities.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492691493 121978617,122011611,2017-04-20 12:35:05,"Why are racial collectivists such cancer, Hoppe bros? Why do they hate human agency? Don't they understand that in a pure Hoppean world all association or lack thereof would be completely voluntary?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691705 121978617,122011623,2017-04-20 12:35:11,">>121989941 >>122010290 Sounds like autism",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492691711 121978617,122011819,2017-04-20 12:37:02,">>122010545 > libertarianism is a joke FTFY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691822 121978617,122011833,2017-04-20 12:37:06,">>122009053 I agree 100 percent with this.",,Anonymous,quote_freedom_does_not_mean_that_right_to_do_whatever_we_please_but_rather_to_do_as_we_ought_fulton_j_sheen_94_3_0312.jpg,OZFWkqtBzu2EcOgXEPfaKw==,US,,1492691826 121978617,122011843,2017-04-20 12:37:12,">>122011611 Cause white aesthetics and culture should be preserved.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492691832 121978617,122011959,2017-04-20 12:38:24,">>122011087 >America is an exceptional place, so we need to do away with the philosophy that made us so and adopt barbaric old world tribalism! wut",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691904 121978617,122011990,2017-04-20 12:38:42,">>122011843 I agreed but there are ways to preserve it without resorting to state violence",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691922 121978617,122012037,2017-04-20 12:39:11,">>122011833 >that quote >>121991324 >>121995100",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492691951 121978617,122012107,2017-04-20 12:39:47,">>122011225 He hung around with a lot of Jews in Jew York, so I assumed he was a Jew. He laments something that was largely brought about through expression of hyper-individualism and focus upon rights at the expense of duties. No such nation can endure, welfare or no.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691987 121978617,122012131,2017-04-20 12:39:57,*I agree,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492691997 121978617,122012283,2017-04-20 12:41:21,">>121990279 we don't want none of your shit here",,Anonymous,1492632953432.gif,jYTUN9wR+Z4cCvjmduj0Ww==,US,,1492692081 121978617,122012650,2017-04-20 12:44:58,">>122012107 >leftist universalism and state sanctioned mass migration is the fault of the people who want to live in liberty >nature itself does not impose duty on people There's gonna be a point at which the doctrine the natural duties is going to have to be developed because the idea that duties and obligations are things that are necessarily imposed by some human agency from above is fucking stupid. There's a reason we speak of the necessities of life, and not of their optionalities. The freedom to do with one's own person what one wishes also means that others may not escape their own responsibilities by taking the fruit of one's labor to subsidize himself. Notice, incidentally, that had state education not existed but rather had been decentralized, we probably would not be have ended up in our current predicament. It would not have been possible for the leftist intellectual to standardize the curriculum in such a way that the standard narrative is now ""white people are guilty and must pay.""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492692298 121978617,122013348,2017-04-20 12:52:04,Bump,,Anonymous,image.jpg,cEJaysfUcZ4a4jCv42D11g==,FR,,1492692724 121978617,122014346,2017-04-20 13:02:20,"HOPPE DID NOTHING WRONG",,Anonymous,polcomp.jpg,0jKVGKu/26koEEY+Xn7S1Q==,GB,,1492693340 121978617,122014480,2017-04-20 13:03:36,"Rather than steps, would pouring milk on them be any better?",,Anonymous,snake-milk-242x300.jpg,q3FkkxquTUvD56AuMbRKRw==,ZA,,1492693416 121978617,122014580,2017-04-20 13:04:32,">>122014480 no",,Anonymous,1453069418915.png,L+qytAGtKfPWYUcb8qn7uA==,GB,,1492693472 121978617,122015764,2017-04-20 13:14:54,"Bump with a graph showing where the banks plan to move jobs as, allegedly, a consequence of the Brexit vote.",,Anonymous,cities-wide.png,m5UdSXKiQnEF9TBJjBZ/2w==,CA,,1492694094 121978617,122015825,2017-04-20 13:15:34,">>122015764 Well that turned out just fine. Link: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-brexit-bankers/?utm_content=brexit&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-facebook-brexit",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492694134 121978617,122015984,2017-04-20 13:17:04,based ancaps doing god's work,,Anonymous,ancapsnek.jpg,WrSp9Prd4PGmghLhjEym4w==,FR,,1492694224 121978617,122016329,2017-04-20 13:20:01,">>122005257 I think we should support right wing parties that are at least a considerable amount leaning toward libertarianism, less state and more community and local-oriented policies. Support for separatist and secessionist parties should also he encouraged, even if the parties themselves are socialist (breaking up the states into pieces is more important than making sure the separatist party just so happens to be our dream libertarian party since more political competition and people voting with their feet will eventually unmask the failures of Socialism and replace the now independent country's separatist party with a proper right wing party). Lega Nord Flemish Action UKIP Free Citizens' Party Liberalistene AfD Party for Freedom Scottish National Party Just to name a few. I mean, if Rothbard thought it was good enough to ally himself with David Duke, Strom Thurmond, and called for a right wing populist reaction, then it settles it. I'm still unsure about the National Front and Le Pen. On one hand she would be atrocious for the market, but on the other hand there would be a blow to the EU, foreign criminals literally physically removals from French society, property values would rise due to less crime, and Islam would get the slap in its face that it deserves. And yet Henry de Lesquen, the French /ourguy/, is on the Fillon train... I'm lost here.",,Anonymous,1492625518651m.jpg,y3eNXoEqQkKCNuC51XkcPQ==,PT,,1492694401 121978617,122016444,2017-04-20 13:21:07,Lengi lifi Bjarni Ben.,,Anonymous,icehot.jpg,ltMYYjF5GWHGXjz1SsuoHQ==,IS,,1492694467 121978617,122016529,2017-04-20 13:21:47,">>122007341 Try actually reading some of his fucking work before you rant about things you know absolutely nothing about, it will take 3-6 months even if your IQ is above 130 to get a good handle on how natural law works, common law is constructed and how parasitism is suppressed. I find it absolutely hilarious how idiots think these things can be expressed to a paragraph or two of text",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1492694507 121978617,122016752,2017-04-20 13:24:12,">>122007250 >/lrg/ can't handle the /emj/ pill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492694652 121978617,122017421,2017-04-20 13:29:55,">>122008243 In the end the libertarian right boils down to ""we need to create ancapistan so that an absolute monarchy has space to grow organically"". Which i find surprisingly reasonable and desirable.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492694995 121978617,122018150,2017-04-20 13:36:45,">>122017421 I'd be cautious with saying we espouse pro absolute monarchy views. Monarchies sprung from the ""original sin"" of mankind, which was the monopolization of the provision of defense and judicial services. It's still better than anything else the mainstream offers us today, and it's a nice lure for monarchists, but in the end it's still a State.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492695405 121978617,122019590,2017-04-20 13:50:30,">>122018150 Over time a family would come out on top as the major land owner. It might ally (maybe by marriage) with the second family and so on. Smaller land owners could join this alliance (which might not even be statist, just a ""we protect each other"" alliance maybe) and you'd have your counts and lords. Its almost inevitable in ancapistan. But these ""monarchies"" would be organically developed and rightfully rule their lands acquired by voluntary means over subjects who voluntarily rented space in these lands, paying rent instead of taxes. Think about it.",,Anonymous,warneverchanges.png,/HWSzOh/Tx6CZpqb7K6KTw==,BR,,1492696230 121978617,122019981,2017-04-20 13:54:18,">>122019590 I get what you're saying, even though it seems to me that with modern technology and crime prevention services, on top of the fact that we no longer live in small villages but in countries with millions of ""anonymous"" citizens, there would not be families but companies that ascended to superior statuses. Monarchies are already understood as monopolies, except private and therefore promoting of lower time preferences all around. But I get what you mean man. I'm just not sure if we should call it monarchy since the ""divine power"" argument wouldn't apply anymore.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492696458 121978617,122020419,2017-04-20 13:58:45,">>122019981 There were monarchies that didn't use religion to assert their claim. In brazil pedro was never considered holy or anything, just the rightfull owner of the land and ruler of our people. Sad that he gave up power because of some uppity negroes.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492696725 121978617,122021509,2017-04-20 14:09:33,">>122020419 Alright, fair enough.",,Anonymous,hans-hermann-hoppe-privatize-everything-tshirt-white-zoom.jpg,FtXsR4phKumMnaTh6r7WTw==,PT,,1492697373 121978617,122021524,2017-04-20 14:09:47,">>122011959 Who could dispute that libertarian principles are not universal? The philosophy only makes sense in our specific cultural context and history, and even Americans don't embrace it any longer. There are virtually no European libertarians, as even their conservative parties are fairly leftist by American standards. As for the Third World and tribalized societies, the concept of individuality is virtually non-existent. The group/tribe takes precedence over the individual while the ""other"" is anathematized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492697387 121978617,122023302,2017-04-20 14:25:05,">>122021524 I call this historicist libertarianism, consider this to be my own position, and it is the reason why I push Raico, who is an historian. Ideally, we would also have anthropologists explaining the link between European cultural forms and the rise of liberty. For instance, I remember a paper which described the way in which the Catholic Church prohibition on cousin marriage create the necessary conditions for high trust societies, as opposed to a low trust tribal one. It's about 50 pages. Liberty has a context that needs to be defended if liberty is to be possible at all.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492698305 121978617,122023978,2017-04-20 14:30:56,">>122023302 >link between European cultural forms and the rise of liberty. Read this, it's not the type of ""liberty"" you think it is",,Anonymous,"41S-XP2cq2L._SX309_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",54kM1A0wi0xBYkIQx+GI2A==,IE,,1492698656 121978617,122024059,2017-04-20 14:31:44,,,Anonymous,79f90f4d8090409fc6ff3df65c0acd749bd9121564964bca68784b4e05ca0dd2_1.jpg,F6plHefzx2P4WaJxaGm3cw==,US,,1492698704 121978617,122024235,2017-04-20 14:33:17,,,Anonymous,paleoconservative.jpg,Fc/ABnPbAILYssYLxpmcmg==,US,,1492698797 121978617,122025192,2017-04-20 14:42:15,">>122010369 They help develop my arguments and bump the thread Invite more in desu",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492699335 121978617,122025214,2017-04-20 14:42:26,">>122023978 Seem pretty good but I'm always extremely weary of people who claim any kind of aristocracy for themselves. They strike me as completely deluded. I have no problem accepting that aristocratic freedom might have played a role in the social forms that ended up later being adopted, but the fact of the matter is that we now live in a fragmented universe of the division of labor. I don't know just how relevant the social structures of the Indo-European are to our current problems. Since you made a quality recommendation, I'll make on of my own.",,Anonymous,european miracle.jpg,661p2/1GLOnHdj7vUDEDvg==,CA,,1492699346 121978617,122025990,2017-04-20 14:49:42,">>122024235 >>122024059 Good posts Imo the OP should include Minarchism and Paleoconservatism as we keep getting raided by people who think we're all ancaps. We ain't",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492699782 121978617,122027063,2017-04-20 14:59:43,">>122023978 >>122025214 We should be weary of the book I've just recommended however, as it seems the author -- this is according to your book -- later apologized for his ""ethnocentric"" assumptions about Europe. Your book seems excellent in that it details the propaganda attack that has been lead against the western mind by the historical profession.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492700383 121978617,122027160,2017-04-20 15:00:39,">>122025990 I second this.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492700439 121978617,122028010,2017-04-20 15:08:36,>>122027160,,Anonymous,0a5370f78.png,ClNw94MzRGjxdTlOp3eDlg==,GB,,1492700916 121978617,122029114,2017-04-20 15:18:22,"Make me go into the Libertarian Right Convince me. I want to see your best arguments for Libertarianism/Classical Liberalism/Anarcho Capitalism.",,Anonymous,chart.png,gFXNPOVAyzig0r/VN87Zfg==,GB,,1492701502 121978617,122029734,2017-04-20 15:23:38,">>122010052 where is that excerpt from and how can i read the rest of it? That was a juicy read",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492701818 121978617,122030106,2017-04-20 15:26:39,">>122029734 I had to look that one up myself. It is from ""Starship Troopers"" by Robert Heinlein.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492701999 121978617,122030152,2017-04-20 15:26:57,">>122029114 On what points are you authoritarian?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492702017 121978617,122031041,2017-04-20 15:34:01,">>121993434 Nation =/= government. Keep wasting your time strawmanning though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492702441 121978617,122031139,2017-04-20 15:34:48,">>122029114 cus the state is p gay",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492702488 121978617,122031390,2017-04-20 15:36:44,">>122029114 State focused politics ultimately only benefits the state.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1492702604 121978617,122031635,2017-04-20 15:38:33,">>122023302 In retrosepct, especially after delving into Neoreaction/Dark Enlightenmentm literature, that I could have been so naive and haughty as to think that the principles of liberty, private property, individuality, freedom of speech, expression, religion etc. that were embraced by Anglo-American civilization could have possibly been universally applied in areas of the world which could give a fuck less about a single one of those concepts. It also made me notice that libertarianism is just the flip side of the Marxist coin. Both ideologies are staunchly materialist in nature and seem to think that human happiness emanates from the particular method by which property is owned and distributed. It made me realize that there are, as Neocat says, ""values beyond the economic.""",,Anonymous,neocat.jpg,oRLTk5VchP4Eu2BEKHxzng==,US,,1492702713 121978617,122032211,2017-04-20 15:42:36,">>122030152 Law and Order and Immigration mainly but you could fire some questions at me to determine how authoritarian I am",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492702956 121978617,122033704,2017-04-20 15:53:20,">>122031635 >Both ideologies are staunchly materialist in nature You can't read Mises on the foundation of the science of economics and conclude the libertarian are pure materialist. You can't read Rothbard, in his history of economic thought, overturn Marx's theory of historical materialism and conclude that the Austrian are materialist. The Austrians give a primary importance to the idea of Acting Man and of subjective valuation. They do not have as a starting position that man is a determination of the material. Furthermore, the libertarians do not value economic, but liberty, and the Austrians do not value economic either, as their interest consists in the derivation of value free scientific propositions. As to the a-historical character of some libertarian, it certainly exists. But the free marketer version of Marx is not to be found in them. They do not believe in historical determinism -- how could they, since they believe in choice? -- nor do they believe in a theory of historical convergence. It's interesting in this respect to note that Ralph Raico consistently attacks those who wish to ""make the world safe for democracy"", the interventionists, the universalists, the imperialists by any other name. Also interesting is the fact that Fukuyama, like Marx, was inspired by Hegel. The libertarians and the Austrians, as far as I know, have no Hegelian influences. >>122032211 We're probably very close.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492703600 121978617,122034755,2017-04-20 16:00:44,bumping for economic mastery,,Anonymous,1489704742191 (1).jpg,Z3jEVdfDSRpTa44Iwwtgjg==,GB,,1492704044 121978617,122036032,2017-04-20 16:09:17,">>122033704 What I mean is that neither philosophy speaks to man's spiritual condition, the mystery of life, our place in the cosmos etc. What is paramount is the distribution and ownership of property. While certainly significant, I no longer see this as the ""end all, be all"" of my worldview. And if one cares about culture, it must be admitted that a pure free market caters to the vile tastes of the mass man. Hence the pervasiveness of trashy consumer culture in our Strip Mall nation. Your Zima, hula hoops, and Dan Fogelberg records will simply not resolve the dilemma of being human.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492704557 121978617,122038753,2017-04-20 16:27:49,">>122036032 And this in turn makes you wish that....?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492705669 121978617,122039383,2017-04-20 16:32:16,"Just came here to post this, made it a couple of days ago in an ideal flag thread. Not complete because I'm a lazy cunt but you know, freedom.",,Anonymous,Ancap maryland.png,u0JPirnjnB3kwt/2s7+1lg==,US,,1492705936 121978617,122041088,2017-04-20 16:43:48,">>122038753 It made me realize that culture is at least as important as economics to the human condition, if not more so.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492706628 121978617,122041332,2017-04-20 16:45:21,topkek,,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,niWVVIABbz23KYIsl32WUA==,BR,,1492706721 121978617,122041937,2017-04-20 16:49:05,">>122039383 sort of looks like Maryland's flag tbqh",,Anonymous,flag.jpg,KHDc9JuydAlHs+fGi9kwNg==,US,,1492706945 121978617,122042165,2017-04-20 16:50:37,Hoppe is a god for uncucking libertarianism.,,Anonymous,1489493576379.jpg,gjm5N12fS0kVmkLiORWcKw==,DE,,1492707037 121978617,122042907,2017-04-20 16:55:47,">>122041937 Ya don't say.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492707347 121978617,122043479,2017-04-20 16:59:54,so would you lot allow a fascist dictatorship a la Hitler to come into power if he promised to make an ethno-state and ensure that your personal liberties are never tread on?,,Anonymous,polcomp aminals.png,CQh5gIp5CYSY5qNFkFoPQg==,GB,,1492707594 121978617,122044062,2017-04-20 17:03:55,,,Anonymous,no step.jpg,C3yffL6nH+UJSX8Ly9JZzw==,BR,,1492707835 121978617,122044162,2017-04-20 17:04:48,">>122041088 I agree completely. Which is why libertarianism flourished in Europe and not in anywhere else. One of the books on the reading list called A Short History of Man by Hoppe explains this perfectly, that is, the origin of the nuclear family and private property out of the nomadic age and why racial and cultural differences made mankind advance in Europe vastly than it did in other places.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492707888 121978617,122044406,2017-04-20 17:06:40,http://praisekek.bigcartel.com/ EQUALITY!!!!!,,Anonymous,Equailty.jpg,+bzCTZsoQsKlgBZ/aXCnqA==,US,,1492708000 121978617,122045106,2017-04-20 17:12:13,">>122043479 /lrg/ has already sworn loyalty to my regime. I will seize power and turn America into a minarchist state, we will purge leftists , Reddit libertarians, and degenerates. After the Purge is complete with help of my regime we will establish decentralized national defense organizations and private death squads. After communism is no longer a threat I will end the tax system effectively ending the state",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1492708333 121978617,122045831,2017-04-20 17:18:15,">>122036032 collectivism breeds degeneracy markets don't",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1492708695 121978617,122047025,2017-04-20 17:28:29,"Is religion a requisite of the libertarian right? I'm a libertarian capitalist and ex-atheist, i now allow the existence of a higher power but not a higher consciousness (e.g. God's Plan) and still feel organized religion is an implement of control and therefore anti-libertarian. Genuinely curious, where am I wrong?",,Anonymous,1478060136552.jpg,6Vnq3GQRqomKYzSTRX0wQw==,US,,1492709309 121978617,122047444,2017-04-20 17:31:58,">>122047025 As long as religious officials try to violate the rights of others and allow for others to exercise their full free will, I'm fine with religion for the most part",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492709518 121978617,122047492,2017-04-20 17:32:23,">>122047444 *don't try",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492709543 121978617,122047823,2017-04-20 17:35:00,">>122036032 >What I mean is that neither philosophy speaks to man's spiritual condition, the mystery of life, our place in the cosmos etc I don't know why ""man's spiritual condition"" and the ""mysteries"" came back into the discourse as if they were even respectable things to mention but it makes me cringe so hard. >hmm but what about all these poetic things we can't know? Yes indeed, what about them? >the vile tastes of the mass man >he wants to reform man Out of the crooked timber... >will simply not resolve the dilemma of being human. >he thinks he will or that anyone has >he thinks there's a dilemma",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492709700 121978617,122047959,2017-04-20 17:36:09,">>121978617 >>122032573 COME TO MEMEBALL GENERAL! REEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1492709769 121978617,122048090,2017-04-20 17:36:58,">>122047025 I'm looking into religious arguments for libertarianism, I'm not into religion really, but i dont oppose it. im pretty agnostic. I went into looking into this after watching a (((ben sharpio))) clip where he made the argument that Free will is a belief that is incompatible with atheistic biological derterminism. ill try to find the clip if you're intrested.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492709818 121978617,122048215,2017-04-20 17:37:59,">>122047444 Trips of truth! Thank you, anon. I recently got out of a bad situation with a girl, partly because of religion. She insisted her children would be raised as protestants (e.g. sunday school) like she was, whereas I've committed for a long time to raising my children with no religion, instead encouraging them to learn about philosophy, history, and all religions, before deciding upon a world view for themselves. Is this amoral?",,Anonymous,1462164887692.jpg,NW7dsgEBA4Ae72dGDpWdWw==,US,,1492709879 121978617,122048472,2017-04-20 17:40:08,">>121990279 National Socialists will be the last to board the helicopters.",,Anonymous,1484546840989.png,M0E2n9Vv047ywbJ+ldK3pQ==,US,,1492710008 121978617,122048664,2017-04-20 17:41:28,The German CDU infested government funded ISIS to create more political destabilization in the middle east and thus more refugees to destroy/assimilate German culture in order to establish a one world government (the EU is the first step of this) in which the German ruling elites would play a major role in an attempt to seize more power.,,Anonymous,Download.jpg,nUhljcgTMwEGQowF24+S5A==,DE,,1492710088 121978617,122048752,2017-04-20 17:42:05,">>122005067 True",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492710125 121978617,122049118,2017-04-20 17:44:59,">>122048472 >National Socialists When are they going to realise they're just a bunch of leftist cunts?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492710299 121978617,122049242,2017-04-20 17:46:00,">>122005257 Change people's minds, get the TRUTH about the State out there. Slowly, our ideas will creep into the eye of the public, and, just like the giant social movement of the 1960's toward Leftism, a Right Wing/AnCap movement may arise or something like it. Spread the ideas and wait.",,Anonymous,ancap quotes.png,y8eAPQZcbV+gbltM5gOKQA==,US,,1492710360 121978617,122049294,2017-04-20 17:46:25,>>121990279,,Anonymous,ancap.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,CA,,1492710385 121978617,122049329,2017-04-20 17:46:45,">>122005468 WHO MAKES THESE?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492710405 121978617,122049585,2017-04-20 17:48:34,">>122007002 Not an argument",,Anonymous,the time for arguments has passed.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,US,,1492710514 121978617,122049759,2017-04-20 17:49:57,">>122048090 That'd be great!",,Anonymous,bootybump.gif,Z5aF1mlPQ+HN8rcRoWILtg==,US,,1492710597 121978617,122049925,2017-04-20 17:51:07,">>122049118 I'm convinced they are right wing. even economically, just not as much compared to /lrg/. It seems to me that in order to get elected Hitler and his team constructed a pseudo-leftist/nationalist campaign. They used anti-capitalist propaganda and labeled themselves ""socialist"" Hitler redefined socialism to not be anti-property and represents a more center-right economic policy. im still looking into this but I think National ""Socialism"" is just a sham to appeal to the severly cucked german people of the time.",,Anonymous,1480454858234.jpg,1RiSlUKivXAmMnzG7OhoTg==,US,,1492710667 121978617,122050077,2017-04-20 17:52:17,">>122049759 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k-2zEhl8UY found it right here, i think theres another clip on his show where he talks about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492710737 121978617,122050315,2017-04-20 17:54:03,">>122005257 Evade taxes, ask the govt to collect any 'fees' in person and in cash, use cryptocurrencies like bitcoin, conter economics, black markets, spread the ideas, form covenants like Liberstad in Norway, or join the Liberland movement to achieve a minarchist state, donate to the mises institute, attend rallies, stickerbomb everything with links to explanation of ancapism(propaganda), wear autistic shirts to show people what you stand for.......",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492710843 121978617,122050378,2017-04-20 17:54:32,,,Anonymous,eJwFwdsNhCAQAMBeKIB9iItrNwQJmqgQ2Pu6XO8383WfcbvdnWZ97gDHNXMbh5_WRqrF19bqXVK_ps_tgWSW8vmU1yawSEBljLyIkrIKsKIEWVE3ooAYMQKFTWhhJFkp-P5W9_sDvUQiZg.XEr2h2SvPEKreG31TaukLvp1ICk.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,BR,,1492710872 121978617,122050688,2017-04-20 17:57:06,">>122049925 when one hand you show you respect property and with the other hand you point a gun to collect taxes and coerce how you want someone else to live well, it's sophistry",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1492711026 121978617,122050713,2017-04-20 17:57:19,">>122041332 I know you're into some gay ass shit brazil, but if you made a straight version of this it would trigger natsoc somthing hard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492711039 121978617,122050855,2017-04-20 17:58:26,>when you realize none of this can happen when your country is over run by squatamalans,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492711106 121978617,122050939,2017-04-20 17:59:09,">>122050688 I agree, fuck that shit. but I would not consider it to be left-wing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492711149 121978617,122051095,2017-04-20 18:00:22,http://praisekek.bigcartel.com. SAY NO TO ANTIFA,,Anonymous,NO TO ANTIFA-2.jpg,bpjnEFVJyVX0fb9aL2Urgw==,US,,1492711222 121978617,122051246,2017-04-20 18:01:31,">>122051095 sell this one to my /lrg/ bros.",,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,I71Eo6gzq0qKx5jIHVr5gQ==,US,,1492711291 121978617,122051787,2017-04-20 18:05:31,">>122050939 both are arrogant retards that make life hell due to their goals and means to get there, both are statists",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1492711531 121978617,122052271,2017-04-20 18:09:13,">>122048215 i don't think it's amoral at all. Depending on the religion though (Islam is probably not a good thing to teach anybody really), raising a child with a religion isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think the best thing in your situation would be to teach them about philosophy, history and other religions on the down lo and make sure that their mother doesn't make them an absolute zealot (I mean like one without critical thinking).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492711753 121978617,122052391,2017-04-20 18:10:05,">>122050378 >Dickgirls",,Anonymous,Drakeposting.jpg,OLkY/Fd02BpYia9KOtpb5w==,US,,1492711805 121978617,122053001,2017-04-20 18:14:34,">>122039383 Wouldn't this be better? Christian ancap. Thou shalt not steal, therefore burn commies at the stake.",,Anonymous,"flat,800x800,075,f.u5.jpg",LiNR4/s/bD5P6zup6h0lLQ==,BR,,1492712074 121978617,122053529,2017-04-20 18:18:26,">>122051787 I agree but that's not the point im making. Nahtzees are very reactionary, traditionalist, and anti-egalitarian. I think its fair to say its a totalitarian right-wing ideology and that its leftists elements were killed off/lied to/subjugated. any way i reject national socialism for its inherit statist in form, but I agree with traditionalist, and anti-egalitarian ideals",,Anonymous,AntiEgalitarian.png,V1y9uZd3xbO7JUzlF8YhNQ==,US,,1492712306 121978617,122053790,2017-04-20 18:20:29,">>122053529 National socialism is essentially the minarchist dream state folks dream so much about, if not for the overtly agressive states that surrounded germany. The german people were declared war upon, so they had to defend themselves somehow. The size and scope of a minarchy is proportional to the size and scope of the threats it faces. Basic stuff.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492712429 121978617,122054127,2017-04-20 18:22:56,>>121990279,,Anonymous,vampireeconomy[1].gif,fM+JWy3u1PP0qSVlA3psJQ==,US,,1492712576 121978617,122054662,2017-04-20 18:26:51,Which party should I as a libertarian Hungarian support? Fidesz (Orbán) or Jobbik (little bit more traditionist),,Anonymous,,,HU,,1492712811 121978617,122054829,2017-04-20 18:28:03,">>122029114 Please consult this website: http://exploreistaxationtheft.com/",,Anonymous,kawaii ancap.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,US,,1492712883 121978617,122055390,2017-04-20 18:31:57,">>122050688 M O L Y N E U X",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492713117 121978617,122055394,2017-04-20 18:31:58,what is the /real libertarian/ stance on abortion?,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492713118 121978617,122055826,2017-04-20 18:34:52,"Ancaps: Quick question Does Ancapism rely upon moral relativism or moral universalism? Or neither?",,Praise Jesus [Ally: India],,,US,,1492713292 121978617,122055842,2017-04-20 18:34:59,">>122053001 I am 100% certain that God is a voluntarist/ancap. If you look at the Bible, the Jews did not have a King, only judges to help settle disputes; they were STATELESS. Then the jews complain that they want a King, God tells them a King would bring about all kinds of terrible things but they insist and then after a few Kings, Israel falls.",,Anonymous,anarcho-catholic.jpg,vrYjzYzvRV2hOgPTf/krSw==,US,,1492713299 121978617,122056054,2017-04-20 18:36:36,"Ancaps: Quick question Does Ancapism rely upon moral relativism or moral universalism? Or neither?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492713396 121978617,122056175,2017-04-20 18:37:36,">>122055826 No, we are moral absolutists or we at least believe that morality should be extended to all aspects of life, which is why we oppose the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492713456 121978617,122056243,2017-04-20 18:38:05,">>122056054 >No, we are moral absolutists or we at least believe that morality should be extended to all aspects of life, which is why we oppose the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492713485 121978617,122056653,2017-04-20 18:41:10,">>122056243 But, like, if a society decides to voluntarily ban Islam, that's okay, right? The mudslimes dont have the right to freely travel in an ancap society? And if I convert to Islam, it's okay for that society to kick me out?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492713670 121978617,122056847,2017-04-20 18:42:50,">>122056054 >moral relativism No. absolutley fucking not,",,Anonymous,5IogqMY.jpg,MT3EeHKrf2l5Emfy0wgRMA==,US,,1492713770 121978617,122057347,2017-04-20 18:46:36,shitty OC,,Anonymous,taxation is theft.png,AaeL/xEqnNkE62wnvTh2zA==,GB,,1492713996 121978617,122057545,2017-04-20 18:48:03,">>122057347 kek'd",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492714083 121978617,122057549,2017-04-20 18:48:04,">>122056054 Neither. Ancap relies on the free market. >>122056653 It's impossible for an ancap society to ""ban Islam."" >mudslimes dont have the right to freely travel in an ancap society? Nigger, nobody has a right to free travel in an ancap society. Unless you're walking on virgin, un-owned land, you're using or on somebody's property. If they don't like Muslims they can deny you service. > And if I convert to Islam, it's okay for that society to kick me out? ""Society"" can't kick you out. There is no society. There are only private individuals. Some may deny you services or entry onto their property, but others may accommodate you. It is their choice, and they face the consequences of that choice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492714084 121978617,122057659,2017-04-20 18:48:47,">>122054829 Is it bad that I'm being persuaded by cartoon videos?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492714127 121978617,122057692,2017-04-20 18:49:00,">>122053001 To much like Sweden.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492714140 121978617,122058219,2017-04-20 18:53:04,">>121990279 >>122007002",,Anonymous,Wehrboos.png,EhMKNZZVIRVi6d4jPL8stg==,US,,1492714384 121978617,122059037,2017-04-20 18:59:29,">>122054662 I'd vote for Jobbik because they're anti-EU.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1492714769 121978617,122059711,2017-04-20 19:04:42,">>122057659 Not really, its not hard to justfy taxation being theft unless you're a literal communist that doesen't believe in property.",,Anonymous,Dont.png,okkpl9jgSxWoSr9IpU9jaw==,US,,1492715082 121978617,122060394,2017-04-20 19:10:17,">>122059711 I'm not sure how one cannot believe in property. In my opinion, private property (as well as free speech) is the foundation of a free society. On another note I was wondering if someone could explain to me what a PaleoLibertarian is and how it differs from Libertarianism?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492715417 121978617,122061297,2017-04-20 19:17:03,">>122060394 Shit, I guess I'm a paleolibertarian. I've never rolled with this title but i might now. from wikipedia >Paleolibertarianism is a variety of libertarianism developed by anarcho-capitalist theorists Murray Rothbard and Llewellyn Rockwell that combines conservative cultural values and social philosophy with a libertarian opposition to government intervention.",,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,US,,1492715823 121978617,122061558,2017-04-20 19:19:29,">>122061297 But how does that differ from Conservatism? Conservatives believe in a socially conservative society and a liberal economic system. So why not just call yourself a Conservative?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492715969 121978617,122061621,2017-04-20 19:19:58,">>122060394 >>122061297 Most ITT are Paleolibertarians. But its pointless labelling yourself. You know what you stand for and what you advocate.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492715998 121978617,122061773,2017-04-20 19:21:11,">>121979381 How if facism and Monarchy a step in the right direction? Its literally creates a bigger government, that is harder to tear down than any federal or socialist system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492716071 121978617,122062015,2017-04-20 19:23:14,">>122006084 Solidus did nothing wrong. Also, fuck paz. and by that, I mean I want to fuck paz.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492716194 121978617,122062183,2017-04-20 19:24:41,">>122007002 Unlike SJWs we won't demand retarded ""equality"", or ""sensitivity"" regulations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492716281 121978617,122062239,2017-04-20 19:25:01,"Are libertarian centrists permitted here? Friendly reminder that An(handy)Caps are not permitted.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1492716301 121978617,122062333,2017-04-20 19:25:45,"> Being Libetarian & not having read Bastiat I seriously hope you cunts don't do this, if so please fuck off to google for 2 hours.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492716345 121978617,122062348,2017-04-20 19:25:55,>>121978617,,Anonymous,USA.jpg,dQmNLt1Wya3WrJBIhzC6DA==,US,,1492716355 121978617,122062597,2017-04-20 19:27:59,Classical liberal with libertarian/anarcho capitalist views on economics. Where are you Ancaps?,,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-04-20-08-07-48.png,49aWm+01PVP1E34V0GqodA==,PT,,1492716479 121978617,122062885,2017-04-20 19:30:29,">>122061558 >Conservatives believe in a socially conservative society and a liberal economic system. Not to the same extent that we do. I'm easily more reactionary and easily more economically liberal. >>122061773 Subjugating leftists is nessesary to acheive a libertarian society. Much like subjugating libertarians/conservatives is nessesary to bring forth socialism",,Anonymous,snek (5).png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,US,,1492716629 121978617,122063047,2017-04-20 19:31:43,">>122055842 Being 100% certain about anything regarding god is all but presumptuous pride. God is a mystery, and works in mysterious ways.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492716703 121978617,122063063,2017-04-20 19:31:57,">>122062885 >unintelligible screeching kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492716717 121978617,122063187,2017-04-20 19:32:59,">>122062597 im right here meng. how do you feel about niggers?",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1492716779 121978617,122063305,2017-04-20 19:34:04,">>122062597 10, -10",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492716844 121978617,122064243,2017-04-20 19:41:49,,,Anonymous,snek (4).jpg,+zuP9RnnsFEJ/+4cuIbBuA==,US,,1492717309 121978617,122064446,2017-04-20 19:43:46,">>122063187 Roads!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492717426 121978617,122064468,2017-04-20 19:43:59,">>121999903 >not Liechtenstein Their monarch is a Hoppean ancap for fucks sakes. Individual townships retain the right of secession, and that's only because their parliament didn't like Hans-Adam's proposal to respect everyone's individual right to absolute sovereignty.",,Anonymous,Hans-Adam-II-Prince-of-Liechtenstein.jpg,OIDTwtA8KXFfLPZHyzeucA==,CA,,1492717439 121978617,122064562,2017-04-20 19:44:50,">>122062885 >Not to the same extent that we do. I'm easily more reactionary and easily more economically liberal. Could you perhaps develop mainly on how you are more reactionary than your average Conservative",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492717490 121978617,122065440,2017-04-20 19:52:44,">>122064562 I'm down with race realism, anti-faggotry, anti-egalitarianism all all matter of intolerant shit. I don't however agree with using the state to ban ""degenerate"" behavior. its not hard to be more conservative than what passes today as conservative. they're pretty cucked.",,Anonymous,blue (6).jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,US,,1492717964 121978617,122066125,2017-04-20 19:59:03,"Good cap that applies to us. Maybe an /lrg/ version could be concocted.",,Anonymous,violence.png,pqpOCb3VKUBtE3nMFAyOGA==,GB,,1492718343 121978617,122067131,2017-04-20 20:07:53,">>121978617 >right libertarianism >anarcho-communism How are these not contradictions?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492718873 121978617,122067161,2017-04-20 20:08:10,">>122067131 (You)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492718890 121978617,122068451,2017-04-20 20:19:05,Any good Libertarian/Free Market apps I should make sure to check out?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492719545 121978617,122069685,2017-04-20 20:29:45,Bump,,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1492720185 121978617,122069725,2017-04-20 20:29:58,">>122067131 >American reading comprehension",,Anonymous,1448838645735.png,Hgp+Xbe9BgriKvecMhYbSg==,GB,,1492720198 121978617,122069916,2017-04-20 20:31:41,"What should be the answer to those people, especially on /pol/, who argue for the existence of a third way, of some new system between capitalism and communism? To me it seems like a pipe dream, simply because of the necessity of production. There never will be an escape from the drudgery of the technological society, be it communism, capitalist or islamic. But the lure for something more is always there, and this lure ends up pushing certain people to attack the system of private property. The natsoc are of this variety. >>122068451 There is, as far as I know, no political app.",,Anonymous,bureaucracy.jpg,gDYKnk0IhNkkP/jDJwzF+A==,CA,,1492720301 121978617,122071189,2017-04-20 20:42:10,">>122069916 National Socialism is more a cultural philosophy. It's just the logical conclusion to ""the fourteen words"" It's not based on the moral principles of property or egalitarianism. The way it's packaged as third position is just edgy bullshit. There's a million positions to adhere to. They wanna seem outside the box.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492720930 121978617,122071557,2017-04-20 20:45:29,"@122067131 Not even worth a (You)",,Anonymous,Bait and Switch.webm,2x1Q082xQOLrnqi4FU3B6Q==,US,,1492721129 121978617,122073234,2017-04-20 21:02:23,,,Anonymous,17795935_1550687208292276_5334472190144709404_n.png,jgA/0mZR4pYJ6I0RHeSQKA==,BR,,1492722143 121978617,122073322,2017-04-20 21:03:09,">>122007002 Fucking shit, that's a strawman if ever there was one.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492722189 121978617,122074553,2017-04-20 21:14:53,">>121991031 >>121991279 >>122012283 >>122048472 >>122049294 >>122054127 >>122058219 You guys are perfect idiots.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1492722893 121978617,122075319,2017-04-20 21:22:18,"Bump with quote: >Next to the concept of action, property is the most basic category in the social sciences. As a matter of fact, all other concepts to be introduced in this chapter—aggression, contract, capitalism and socialism—are definable in terms of property: aggression being aggression against property, contract being a nonaggressive relationship between property owners, socialism being an institutionalized policy of aggression against property, and capitalism being an institutionalized policy of the recognition of property and contractualism. >Let us start with an elucidation of the precondition necessary for the concept of property to emerge. 4 For a concept of property to arise, there must be a scarcity of goods. Should there be no scar - city, and should all goods be so-called “free goods” whose use by any one person for any one purpose would not in any way exclude (or interfere with or restrict) its use by any other person or for any other purpose, then there would be no need for property. If, let us say, due to some paradisiac superabundance of bananas, my present consumption of bananas does not in any way reduce my own future supply (possible consumption) of bananas, nor the present or the future supply of bananas for any other person, then the assignment of property rights, here with respect to bananas, would be superfluous. To develop the concept of property, it is necessary for goods to be scarce, so that conflicts over the use of these goods can possibly arise. > It is the function of property rights to avoid such possible clashes over the use of scarce resources by assigning rights of exclusive ownership. Property is thus a normative con - cept: a concept designed to make a conflict-free interaction pos - sible by stipulating mutually binding rules of conduct (norms) regarding scarce resources.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492723338 121978617,122076938,2017-04-20 21:36:00,">>122075319 >What, then, is the natural position regarding property implicit in one’s natural way of speaking about bodies? Every person has the exclusive right of ownership of his body within the boundaries of its surface. Every person can put his body to those uses that he thinks best for his immediate or long-run interest, well-being, or satisfaction, as long as he does not interfere with another person’s rights to control the use of his/her respective body. This “ownership” of one’s own body implies one’s right to invite (agree to) another person’s doing some - thing with (to) one’s own body: my right to do with my body what - ever I want, that is, includes the right to ask and let someone else use my body, love it, examine it, inject medicines or drugs into it, change its physical appearance and even beat, damage, or kill it, if that should be what I like and agree to. Interpersonal relationships of this sort are and will be called contractual exchanges.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492724160 121978617,122077134,2017-04-20 21:37:35,">>122076938 >If, on the other hand, an action is performed that uninvitedly invades or changes the physical integrity of another person’s body and puts this body to a use that is not to this very person’s own liking, this action, according to the natural position regarding property, is called aggression .",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492724255 121978617,122077226,2017-04-20 21:38:13,>>122074553,,Anonymous,Cl5o3YMVEAAyRdE[1].jpg,MEhEliDwm3P3wGrotUdjFQ==,US,,1492724293 121978617,122077536,2017-04-20 21:41:11,">15 hour long thread. I'm out. Happy Hitler's birthday and dudeweed.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1492724471 121978617,122077969,2017-04-20 21:45:28,Is libertarian /pol/ coming back?,,Anonymous,1360317176357.jpg,LyHIolQeEMozoXL2pV1mww==,US,,1492724728 121978617,122079262,2017-04-20 21:58:01,">>121978617 >this kills the libertarian",,Anonymous,9781573921398-us-300.jpg,tLtSdW4bMg1UdVCe1dm9aA==,US,,1492725481 121978617,122079369,2017-04-20 21:59:03,">>122079262 keynesian economics ruined america",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492725543 121978617,122079621,2017-04-20 22:01:33,">>122079262 >((Keynes)) >thinks society should be built around interest and money.... this is why modern societies are shit obsession with muh gdp and growing economy growth at any cost rather then a sustained, stable rise and the maintenance of values/society even when it pretty sure early Americans were too busy farming and enjoying freedom in a white christian nation to worry about muh GDP or the stockmarket",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492725693 121978617,122080054,2017-04-20 22:05:45,">>122079621 Society's managers require macro metric in order to plan anon! The idiots who cannot manage their own freedom will correctly vote for their betters who will then manage the economy that existed prior to their appearance anyway.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492725945 121978617,122080334,2017-04-20 22:08:30,">>122079369 >keynesian economics saved america and made it a global superpower Fixed it!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492726110 121978617,122080653,2017-04-20 22:11:39,">>122080334 >implying America didn't peak well before the mid 1900's Sure... the post-war economic boom was nice but we had already degraded as a country and were rapidly heading off the cliff only slowed or temporarily reversed by our past success. Had America not lost its path at the start of the 1900's it would have risen far higher then it did even with the steroid shots and would never have degraded. We'd be living in a golden age.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492726299 121978617,122081583,2017-04-20 22:20:21,">Introduction to Anarchism https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf >The Anarchist FAQ http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA >Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism? http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF >Anarcho-'Capitalism' is impossible. https://c4ss.org/content/4043 >What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen >The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread >Markets not capitalism http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf",,Anonymous,12314254345.jpg,yQzKtNYq8O3jZlZitErT4A==,GB,,1492726821 121978617,122081665,2017-04-20 22:21:11,">>122080653 >America peaked before the 1900's This is possibly the most wrong statement in world history.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492726871 121978617,122082482,2017-04-20 22:28:49,">>122081583 Start your own general.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492727329 122123085,122123085,2017-04-21 06:49:43,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - PRIVATE DEATH SQUAD EDITION,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1492757383 122123085,122123182,2017-04-21 06:51:04,,,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1492757464 122123085,122123224,2017-04-21 06:51:39,,,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(3).png,8NmmFqEDnFZ5ThLIrXXYUQ==,US,,1492757499 122123085,122123250,2017-04-21 06:52:06,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1492757526 122123085,122123279,2017-04-21 06:52:34,,,Anonymous,Mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,US,,1492757554 122123085,122123462,2017-04-21 06:55:09,">b-but Gary Johns... Shut it you low energy fag. We ain't some retarded 420 blaze it faggots. We want liberty and the responsibility that goes with it. >b-but somalia a-and warlords ??? Gotta read that shiet https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over https://mises.org/library/anarchy-somalia Somalia is the corpse of a fucking socialist state and it's better off now than before it collapsed. >b-b-but .. ROADS ! If there's a need for roads, they're going to be built by private construction companies, payed by covenants and maintained my said construction companies. They even generate money, because it's like that parts or the road are for rent in order to set up advertisements at the sides. Or there's no need for roads, because we're the fucking gyrocopter master race",,Anonymous,Pepe.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1492757709 122123085,122123556,2017-04-21 06:56:33,>Reactionary Libertarianism doesn't wo-,,Anonymous,Chile Venezuela Socialism.jpg,hfOl1kRdcRkpKVwed8M2Dg==,PT,,1492757793 122123085,122123647,2017-04-21 06:57:56,"What kind of ethnostate would be necessary to ensure the successful implementation of Libertarianism and why is it White people? >freedom >death squads >remove commies I like this. I usually think NatSoc is the solution to many of the modern worlds ills, but I cannot see it having massive popular support in the West - ever again. Does the Libertarian Right support multiculturalsim? I hope you aren't yet another deluded fool imagining that it works(pro tip, it doesn't) If not I am listening. And what is the stance regarding the JQ?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492757876 122123085,122124003,2017-04-21 07:03:08,">>122123556 kek We need more 'joke' memes Like: Hans-Hermann ""Get to the chopper I'm the commie stopper"" Hoppe",,Anonymous,1394813190601.jpg,lB10dPMoQfL6EY15BZu0Mw==,GB,,1492758188 122123085,122124150,2017-04-21 07:05:08,">>122123647 >Does the Libertarian Right support multiculturalsim? No, see pic. The JQ can be solved as politicians and state-run media no longer have any influence.",,Anonymous,1491766381614.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,GB,,1492758308 122123085,122124385,2017-04-21 07:08:35,">>122123647 the problem with NatSoc is that Socialism is still a shit economic system, even in a ethno-state >Does the Libertarian Right support multiculturalsim? hell no, I don't want third worlders coming over here demanding gibsmedats Libertarianism will only ever succeed in a western culture. Political values are dependent on culture and non-western cultures have proven time and time again to prefer more authoritarian forms of government. that's why exporting democracy like the neo-cons do is ridiculous, and that's why importing third world peoples will lead to third world political movements thriving in western nations >And what is the stance regarding the JQ? Jews that spread degenerate shit like cultural marxism should be physically removed from society, those that keep their mouths shut can stay but preferably they should move to Israel, their own ethno-state",,Anonymous,libertarian right general.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,PT,,1492758515 122123085,122124478,2017-04-21 07:09:47,">>122124150 Thank you, it sounds good so far. Will spend time tonight reading http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ Gotta admit ""Hans-Hermann 'Get to the chopper I'm the commie stopper' Hoppe"" has a nice ring to it. I'd vote for that! Kek Also what is this black/yellow pepe I keep seeing all about?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492758587 122123085,122124541,2017-04-21 07:10:35,">>122123085 >>122123182 >>122123250 >>122123279 >>122123462 Shit nigger thats alota links >>122123556 Top kek >>122123647 Bassically >>122124150 and >>122124385",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492758635 122123085,122124753,2017-04-21 07:13:16,">>122124478 It's Hoppe frog ancap meme",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492758796 122123085,122124933,2017-04-21 07:15:42,">>122124385 Yeah true, I wonder how far Hitler would've gotten if international capitalists weren't financing him from the start. >Does the Libertarian Right support multiculturalsim? >hell no, I don't want third worlders coming over here demanding gibsmedats >Libertarianism will only ever succeed in a western culture. >And what is the stance regarding the JQ? >Jews that spread degenerate shit like cultural marxism should be physically removed from society Honestly this is sounding better and better. I'm going to look into it. Based Hoppe especially. Soo... one thing - the Libertarian Right respects traditional hierarchy like Fascists do, but are not totalitarian. How would they ensure a healthy, traditional society when everyone has the liberty to be unpunished degenerates? (Even if culture distorting jews have been removed). I know that's a broad question but that's the first thing that came to mind for me and surely you guys have thought about this already.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492758942 122123085,122125015,2017-04-21 07:16:49,">>122124753 Ok sweet, cheers m8",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492759009 122123085,122125178,2017-04-21 07:19:22,What would you do if a socialist goverment got elected in your country?,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1492759162 122123085,122125257,2017-04-21 07:20:37,>>122125178,,Anonymous,3403578-9210624222-7uuEz.png,pVkfvpRZiTstvQr62hn7rA==,GB,,1492759237 122123085,122125490,2017-04-21 07:23:48,">>122124933 We believe in voluntary association rather than state control. Western governments are obviously incompetent and completely adverse to the production of a peaceful and healthy society - the only moral and practical solution is non-aggression and total secession by preferably peaceful means. The state should be replaced by superior governing authorities in the form of covenants, churches and free nations",,Anonymous,Amish-family.jpg,hdusH34BAphsOyoZxk5BrA==,AU,,1492759428 122123085,122125501,2017-04-21 07:23:55,">>122124933 >unpunished degenerates? That's where you're wrong. Punishment can work without law. Can you go scream in a supermarket and shit on all the products? Of course not, state law isn't necessary for this, only a structure that enforces property rights. Right-libertarianism allows discrimination through property rights, and any demographic that is seen as bad, and, subsequently, has higher costs associated with it, will have market forces drive it away from society, just as bad products are driven out of the market in many countries today. If a city dislikes black people, then they'd be willing to pay more to not live near black people, and this becomes a more profitable endeavour - landlords would jointly disallow black people from moving in. Even better, though - incorrect ideas about what is bad and what is good get disproven through market forces in right-libertarianism. Think that multiculturalism is great? Go live in a multiculturalist area. If it's great, costs for your own security protection will be low because crime is low, schooling will be to a higher quality and will be cheaper as it'll be somehow less difficult to tutor people from multiple cultures and backgrounds, and courts will be cheaper as multicultural societies will somehow be able to resolve conflicts more easily and quickly as they obviously agree on moral issues. Clearly, this is not the case, and all of the above will be cheaper in areas resembling ethno-states. I don't see it being likely that there will be 100% white ethnostates - I see no reason for a Thomas Sowell, so to speak, to be excluded from a prosperous nation on the basis of market forces. Regardless of what I think about the merits of a ethnostate in a libertarian society, though, the market will unearth the true costs and merits of multiculturalism and diversity through competition.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492759435 122123085,122125719,2017-04-21 07:26:46,">>122124933 >How would they ensure a healthy, traditional society when everyone has the liberty to be unpunished degenerates? Degenerates are self-destructive in their nature in a heavily privatized society where they can't rely on handouts people who set low standards will be ""destroyed"" by people who set high standards the fat pink haired feminist with a liberal arts degree isn't so threatening when she's unemployed living under a private bridge because nobody in the country will employ someone that useless",,Anonymous,von Mises on Fascism.jpg,9QvQLBMFSKthD8aRYgjvvw==,PT,,1492759606 122123085,122125740,2017-04-21 07:27:04,">>122125501 I'd like to add something which might make parts of this more clear: In a current state, ""public services"" are a tax on those who use them less and a subsidy on those who use them more. It follows from this that market forces in current states do not correctly punish living in high-crime areas, living in multi-cultural areas and living in extremely diverse and untraditional areas, as a growth in these currently hinders said areas only as much as it hinders traditional and prosperous areas. Being a slob will finally be punished by monetary costs, as will being in an area in which you're likely to be a target of crime, as will being a criminal yourself, as will endorsing communism or democracy (the violation of property rights).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492759624 122123085,122125855,2017-04-21 07:28:40,">>122125719 desu they'd be pushed so far away from civilisation that the only place they could be without violating the NAP would be the unclaimed waters at the centre of the pacific ocean. beautiful",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492759720 122123085,122125908,2017-04-21 07:29:20,">>122124933 Degeneracy in general is not economically viable, most prosperous members of society don't want to be exposed to degeneracy in their neighborhoods. This leads us to believe that conservative, white covenants will be the most prosperous, and if the market teaches us something is that the best formulas will be imitated and eventually adopted by everyone. I always recommend doing the exercise, go step by step, start thinking what happens once a rich guy decides to buy a huge chunk of land and offer parts of that land to buyers (or built houses) in exchange for certain restrictions on behavior to make sure the rest of the houses raise or at least maintain their value. Eventually these rich guys would offer deals where security is included, etc, and the market would show which options are the cheapest and which internal rules allow for the most prosperous results. There's no doubt in my mind that degeneracy has no room in such world.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492759760 122123085,122126133,2017-04-21 07:32:29,">>122125178 cry about it and shitpost Salazar memes on /pol/",,Anonymous,antonio bane costa.jpg,Oqes/sWKNWe7zmKeCLckbA==,PT,,1492759949 122123085,122126174,2017-04-21 07:33:12,">>122125490 >voluntary association rather than state control Ok, that's fair enough because with the JQ resolved people will know much more clearly what is and isn't good for them, and would probably choose to associate with what is good, for the most part. >Western governments are obviously incompetent >The (shill) state should be replaced Absolutely. It would be very interesting to see what kind of men were produced living with a higher degree of self-governance, and responsibility, rather than the laughable mentality of >gibs >vote once every 4 years >hope things change",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492759992 122123085,122126324,2017-04-21 07:35:16,">>122124150 That last line sounds like a libertarian 14/88. 12/??",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492760116 122123085,122126379,2017-04-21 07:36:13,">>122126174 The most important and easy thing to bring out of Hoppe is an application of the tragedy of the commons to democracy. Private property is looked after better than public property, and a democratic state is public property leased out to a new demagogue every four years, throughout which the prime incentive of the demagogue is not to form capital for future growth (akin to planting seeds in your own private field), but to take as much present value as he can for himself (akin to harvesting half-grown wheat and not replanting, as the field will be used by someone else after you stop watching it)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492760173 122123085,122126454,2017-04-21 07:37:10,">>122126324 12/888 Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492760230 122123085,122126491,2017-04-21 07:37:36,">>122125501 That makes alot of sense. Are you basically implying that the Libertarian Right would be highly likely to enable Castle Law (to defend property rights...) Because that is fucking awesome if so. Sounds to me like minorities with an undue amount of influence over the (normal, healthy) majority, which almost always comes at the expense of the majority, would also be put in their place via the market. Excellent. Doesn't have to be a 100% White Ethnostate, but it would be rather amusing if the market self-regulated (purged?) into something very similair anyway. LOL",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492760256 122123085,122126564,2017-04-21 07:38:38,>>122126454,,Anonymous,oh my.jpg,C3TFzqjUVvk0p4Vf2y03Ow==,AU,,1492760318 122123085,122126680,2017-04-21 07:40:25,">>122125719 YES!!!! That is perfect. I have always been at elitist, not because ""muh virtues"" but because some people clearly work harder and excel in certain fields when others are just pure useless unproductive shit - yet demand to be seen as equal. Might be time to make a folder full of based Hoppe memes. You lads may have a potential convert on your hands.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492760425 122123085,122126796,2017-04-21 07:42:00,">>122126491 It's essentially castle law, though the justness of your level of violent response to a violation of the NAP upon you would be decided by the most economically viable court that you can access. Obviously a guy going 81MPH on a 80MPH road wouldn't be justifiably shot by the road owner.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492760520 122123085,122126970,2017-04-21 07:44:12,">>122126680 In my opinion, the best book to read to get started is Mises' Human Action. It dismisses anarcho-capitalism (when it talks about it, that is, which is only for one of the 700 pages), but the objections to it are unjustified and the rest of the book is a fantastic, grounds up construction of Austrian Economics and future ancap doctrine. The most important one after that is Hoppe's Democracy: The God That Failed",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492760652 122123085,122127068,2017-04-21 07:45:30,">>122125740 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the unproductive bludgers, degenerates, and ghetto types are finally going to be held responsible/punished (in a way) for being unproductive bludgers, degenerates, and ghetto types while the productive, civilized White man prospers. Sounds good to me. I am finally beginning to understand why one of my mates from school went hardcore Libertarian and never shutup about the free market - it really does solve a lot of problems.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492760730 122123085,122127151,2017-04-21 07:46:35,">>122126680 Its not about conversion. Its about making up your mind through an exchange of ideas in the free thought market, an unalienable right. If you find that the evidence isnt enough, feel free to keep your natsoc views. Or be selective of what you think is a good idea. You can have disparity in certain issues, its perfectly normal. Hemogony on every issue eventually leads to total stagnation on every level.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492760795 122123085,122127160,2017-04-21 07:46:39,">>122123085 Would I still be classed as a libertarian if I believed in a very small state limited solely to policing borders, levying a national military and enforcing contracts? Or if I believed in a police force or constabulary but only by town or city, with no supernational level? My guiding philosophy is ""as little government and as little interference as is physically possible"", but I'm not sure if I draw the line too near or too far to be classed a libertarian per se. I'm also not sure how to prevent the growth of the state in good times",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492760799 122123085,122127278,2017-04-21 07:48:08,">>122127160 That's certainly Libertarian and the same as most of us here. You'd probably be a Minarchist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492760888 122123085,122127284,2017-04-21 07:48:14,">>122123085 >Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism LOL, your meme generator is gonna melt if you keep this up!!",,Anonymous,YOU.jpg,uNkFvWtsT4ljUnZWTwLkKg==,AU,,1492760894 122123085,122127307,2017-04-21 07:48:33,">>122127068 Market prices are simply a measurement of resource cost in units of human value. As such, the society most valued by humans, giving due weight to each human's values dependant on their value of each human to society, will emerge in an unfettered market. You're entirely right regarding your first line, yes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492760913 122123085,122127353,2017-04-21 07:49:00,">>122127284 come this way sir",,Anonymous,1491849907775.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,GB,,1492760940 122123085,122127422,2017-04-21 07:49:50,">>122127160 Yes, you'd definitely be a libertarian or minarchist. Why can't there be competition with regards to who gets to police the borders of a town?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492760990 122123085,122127524,2017-04-21 07:51:05,">>122127353 Would anime prosper in an area in which degenerates are physically removed, or would the weebs be physically removed too?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492761065 122123085,122127553,2017-04-21 07:51:31,">>122125908 I don't think any healthy, normal, productive person wants to put up with degenerate shit in their neighbourhoods. But currently in the West, we are forced to. To speak about against it is 'hate speech' or 'racist' or, you know, that thing called honesty. I can see this having a far greater appeal than NatSoc to the average Westerner- particularly those in Europe who are experiencing the opposite of what you describe.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492761091 122123085,122127593,2017-04-21 07:52:02,">>122127524 The weeb would never prosper, I do enjoy the meme though.",,Anonymous,1491702624380.gif,fGrwVTp0wgkT8iPDSVkCVQ==,GB,,1492761122 122123085,122127637,2017-04-21 07:52:33,">>122125908 I want to expand a bit because maybe it is not clear how I reach the belief that rich guys will decide to buy chunks of land. Many skeptics against libertarianism will come with the typical, ""how would a libertarian society do X"". In the end, we might think of potential solutions, and there's always at least one, but there is a point where managing 900 subscriptions gets time-consuming and becomes just an annoyance in general. People want easy living. This is where private cities come into play, by offering ""packages"" of services in direct competition with other cities, including law, which would suggest that the NAP is not even necessarily enforced, but just a logic conclusion of market forces leading people to areas where the NAP is the law. People want the minimum amount of laws that restrict their personal growth applied upon themselves, while accepting renouncing certain liberties in order to have a prosperous community, so people will migrate there where this is true, and the NAP is, I believe, the most basic set of rules that can achieve maximum prosperity levels.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492761153 122123085,122127655,2017-04-21 07:52:50,">>122127353 Anzu a cute.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492761170 122123085,122127678,2017-04-21 07:53:09,">>122127160 More libertarian than the Libertarian Party that's for sure. Also for preventing state growth I would first consider decentralisation in the form of states' rights, secessions and independence movements. Although in the end, no matter how small you make a government it will invariably get larger over time. The best solution is no state at all, throwing governance to the forces of individual economic power.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492761189 122123085,122127699,2017-04-21 07:53:34,">>122127524 weebs wouldn't prosper but the anime industry would definitely survive anime is the way it is because they know their target audience, they're capitalists at heart",,Anonymous,anime production.jpg,8kCKEa67m6nE9FHvq6qJEg==,PT,,1492761214 122123085,122127926,2017-04-21 07:56:30,">>122127422 I'm not in theory opposed to introducing competition in police forces, at least in the same way as one uses competition for contracts in commissioning ships and buildings and the like. Households could choose from various local competitors the same way you buy private insurance, or small villages could keep their own police akin to neighbourhood watch",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492761390 122123085,122127943,2017-04-21 07:56:43,">>122127699 In an era without true 3D maidens, the only female structure that pushes the young man towards virtue and prosperity is the notion of being good enough for his purest waifu. With this in mind, I see anarcho-capitalism resulting in competition between waifus and 3DPG until the 3DPG can once again compete with the most pure of waifus. Waifus, and, by extention, animes, are the perfect competition to increase the quality of the real female, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492761403 122123085,122128075,2017-04-21 07:58:23,">>122127160 Yeah id totally classify you as libertarian. Prevention of growth in terms of government institutions is relativley hard to combat especially if its over a long period of time. The best way in my opinion is to keep fundamental control to the individual and the rights we all hold dear and not budge an inch when it comes to them. Then again its never so simple, look at nowadays in america, the second amendment is consistently under attack. If the government is reformed, I would leave it in the constitution that no rights can ever be breached on a fundamental level as described in the constitution, and that the government cannot grant any power unto itself, and is simply seperate and outline the notion that the responsibility of the government is strictly responsible for the protection of the nation and international relations or whatever else you might belive in that doesnt strictly give the government authority to tread on you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492761503 122123085,122128161,2017-04-21 07:59:32,">>122126379 >>122126454 >>122126796 >>122126970 >>122127151 >>122127307 Thanks for answering my noob questions guys, this has been a real eye opener. Serious appeal here and real solutions not based on idealism. It's nice to think Total Race War may not be the only solution after all! I'll start my reading tonight, gotta go get dinner now. Have a bump and some (you's) and you may see me in a Libertarian Right general on here again soon. >keep NatSoc views Nobody will ever be able to convince me ethnostates aren't supreme or that death squads aren't cool. Hail Based Hoppe!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492761572 122123085,122128275,2017-04-21 08:01:04,">>122128161 Mutatis mutandis, so to speak, brother.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492761664 122123085,122128354,2017-04-21 08:02:16,">>122128161 No problem my dude, always keep those neurons firing, you dont want to be like those sjws and automatically denounce everything not in your little bubble. If someone is a moron and disagrees with you, argue with them and win, and if its in public all the better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492761736 122123085,122128935,2017-04-21 08:10:41,">>122127943 when the technology to make waifus real exists 3D women will lose their market share",,Anonymous,don't tread on Miia.jpg,46vuZAv/zqMr/PIsNjbyxQ==,PT,,1492762241 122123085,122128969,2017-04-21 08:11:07,">>122127943 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-dYNttdgl0",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1492762267 122123085,122129060,2017-04-21 08:12:27,">>122128161 With true libertarianism, the free market will always naturally seek more workers and more consumers- no corporations are going to willingly give up the 50% of the population that is female. That means women working and women having their own money, that means atomization into disparate individuals and the destruction of the family unit/gender roles. Likewise, they will naturally want to import more workers without regard for their ethnicity. This alone makes an unrestricted free market a communism-tier meme. Certainly you need to keep some firewalls to preserve race and family.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492762347 122123085,122129494,2017-04-21 08:18:15,">>122129060 >no corporations are going to willingly give up the 50% of the population that is female luckily for them they don't have the power to say no. the willingness is on the part of the female, who must revert to a family role once the state ceases to entertain the role of the husband and extract a quarter of a million dollars per male and give it to each female over the course of her lifetime. there's a reason why the growth of the welfare state has the same incidence as the growth of females in the workplace. with regard to ""importing more workers without regard to their ethnicity"", tell me why this didn't happen when capitalism was at its highest historical form, and why it would happen if we passed that point even further. read the thread for answers. if other ethnicities are bad, costs are associated with them. as such, it becomes better to employ better ethnicities. currently, all costs that are borne from employing a bad ethnicity are distributed upon the good ethnicities, too - higher crime rates are paid for by high-tax paying whites, the destruction of natural law is paid for by high-tax paying whites, the entire state apparatus is a subsidy from the most productive members of society towards those who generate the most social costs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492762695 122123085,122129604,2017-04-21 08:19:47,">>122129060 >free market >corporations have the right to force women into the workforce and enforce open borders nice meme in a true free market women get to decide whether or not they want to wageslave or stay at home with the kids, and there are a lot more women who would prefer to stay at home than feminist bullshit would indicate also friendly reminder that women who stay at home are happier http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3634473/The-job-makes-happiest-Housewife-Survey-finds-stay-home-mothers-satisfied-profession.html",,Anonymous,traditional qt.jpg,7R0J2oB+aQoSVZkAxdcsow==,PT,,1492762787 122123085,122129707,2017-04-21 08:21:05,">>122128969 We /Classic Liberal Composers/ now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUgoBb8m1eE >When World War I broke out, Elgar was horrified at the prospect of the carnage, but his patriotic feelings were nonetheless aroused >Throughout the 1920s, Elgar, saddened by his bereavement and by the social and musical changes brought about by the war, lived in virtual retirement, outwardly content to live the life of a country gentleman in his beloved Worcestershire with his dogs, sometimes emerging for the occasional visit to London or for a conducting or recording assignment. >Elgar will never make /lrg/ compositions.",,Anonymous,Elgar-Edward-08.jpg,4L6PytmlsyTPRGt9b+Wd+A==,GB,,1492762865 122123085,122129917,2017-04-21 08:23:47,">>122129060 >>122129494 Exactly, in both traditional and egalitarian societies, woman prefer being in certain roles, its a well studied phenomena that has its roots in sexual dimorphisism between males and females. Thats not to say women shouldnt interact in the market in certain ways, its clear that some women and some people from minority groups clearly preform above their peers. These people should be given the same opportunities as anyone else so they can thrive. Not allowing them to do so would be a diservice to society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492763027 122123085,122130188,2017-04-21 08:27:16,">>122129707 tybAfrica",,Anonymous,file.png,nknSpKtPlaB/5BN+e2h0KA==,GB,,1492763236 122123085,122130239,2017-04-21 08:27:57,">>122123085 Heil, from NatSoc brother.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492763277 122123085,122130293,2017-04-21 08:28:34,">>122129707 I put it in the context of the opening of Chateu Autiste, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z23Gzp0RTOg",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1492763314 122123085,122130317,2017-04-21 08:28:53,">>122129060 >destruction of the family unit Government destroyed marriage with no-fault divorce, alimony, child support and subsidizing single mothers. If you let people make contract the way they want and not to benefit lawyers it's likely nobody would agree to the terms of marriage the way they are today.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492763333 122123085,122130325,2017-04-21 08:28:56,">>122130239 Fuck socialism",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492763336 122123085,122130377,2017-04-21 08:29:35,">>122129707 I'm more of a Romantic guy - Chopin, Liszt, Dvorak, Brahms, Beethoven...",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1492763375 122123085,122130414,2017-04-21 08:29:59,">>122130188 Good man. He should use the intelligence he possesses to better his society and community. Also I agree anglos certainly have quite a bit to be proud of.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492763399 122123085,122130599,2017-04-21 08:32:34,">>122123085 >this kills the libertarian",,Anonymous,9781573921398-us-300.jpg,tLtSdW4bMg1UdVCe1dm9aA==,US,,1492763554 122123085,122130783,2017-04-21 08:34:53,">>122130325 >implying its real socialism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492763693 122123085,122130846,2017-04-21 08:35:38,">>122130599 Even if Keynesian theory did anything other than misallocate capital and allow stealth taxation, it would still be a blithe misunderstanding of how governments act under constraints and incentives, and as such ought to be dismissed out of hand.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492763738 122123085,122131099,2017-04-21 08:38:27,">>122130846 Yeah dude, getting America out of the depression and making it a global superpower is nothing!",,Anonymous,kyenes teaser.jpg,LbDZhprODs/ZZKfeUM7Leg==,US,,1492763907 122123085,122131113,2017-04-21 08:38:34,>>122130599,,Anonymous,Keynesian dinner.png,HMgum2dSsnMEefhkdAzQ8g==,PT,,1492763914 122123085,122131265,2017-04-21 08:40:14,">>122131113 Literally what the fuck is that supposed to mean.",,Anonymous,1464742819971.png,i0ocystswnUAJqGxgwb3iQ==,US,,1492764014 122123085,122131353,2017-04-21 08:41:24,">>122131099 >getting america out of the depression retarded notion >making it a global superpower retarded notion these aren't even worth entertaining. without keynes we would still be in the great depression right now, it literally would have never ended, i'm sure",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492764084 122123085,122131422,2017-04-21 08:42:22,">>122131265 Maybe read a book nigger so you can find out.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492764142 122123085,122131466,2017-04-21 08:42:49,">>122131265 > Just print more money >>122131113 Are you the futa connosaire libertarian or the portuense one?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492764169 122123085,122131478,2017-04-21 08:42:57,">>122130599 Keynes was a homosexual who did not care about the future.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492764177 122123085,122131482,2017-04-21 08:42:59,">>122131265 We need to print a brain as well.",,Anonymous,1429946325474.png,KXytAIvbHeNPrJof59nQrA==,SI,,1492764179 122123085,122131598,2017-04-21 08:44:18,">>122123085 What kind of currency does Australia have? I have looked at it, and says commodity based? Wouldn't that be similar to a gold standard.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492764258 122123085,122131600,2017-04-21 08:44:23,">>122131353 >without keynes we would still be in the great depression right now, it literally would have never ended That might actually be true. Just trying to wait it out just didn't fucking work. Why on earth would waiting even longer have magically fixed it? Face it dude, when libertarian economics failed during the great depression, keynesian economics came in and saved the day.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492764263 122123085,122131648,2017-04-21 08:45:05,">>122131600 >when libertarian economics failed during the great depression, keynesian economics came in and saved the day. this has to be the bait print a brain if it isn't",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492764305 122123085,122131681,2017-04-21 08:45:37,">>122131466 do Porto, mas não sei se sou o mesmo anon a que te estás a referir",,Anonymous,Porto.png,vfn0UiIT7MLxr7RB9uxCrA==,PT,,1492764337 122123085,122131744,2017-04-21 08:46:24,">>122131466 The results speak for themselves. Keynesian economics got America out of the depression and made it a global superpower. >BUT MUH NAP Completely fictional.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492764384 122123085,122131783,2017-04-21 08:47:01,">>122123085 >>122130986 Muricans",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1492764421 122123085,122131793,2017-04-21 08:47:04,"That's a cool hat. I'd do it if I had more cash https://www.terapeak.com/worth/gadsden-don-t-tread-on-me-snake-chrome-plated-car-emblem-with-abs-plastic/221856365241/ http://www.epicmilitaria.com/luftwaffe-officers-visor-cap.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492764424 122123085,122131801,2017-04-21 08:47:10,">>122129060 > so many argued assumptions Slow done",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492764430 122123085,122131821,2017-04-21 08:47:24,">>122130783 Why are you calling yourself socialist then? And how are you not a socialist?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492764444 122123085,122131878,2017-04-21 08:48:01,">>122131600 Look at the South Sea bubble for reasons as to why Kensian Economics is retarded.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492764481 122123085,122131935,2017-04-21 08:48:41,">>122131681 kek, you would know if you were him. Seems like Porto is strong in this board kek. If you were either the futanari one or the ""portuense"" one you would know. Carry on",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492764521 122123085,122131951,2017-04-21 08:48:56,">>122131744 >Keynesian economics got America out of the depression and made it a global superpower. US was already a global superpower after WW1. And the reason it became a world hegemon is WW2. It had nothing to do with retarded economics.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492764536 122123085,122131992,2017-04-21 08:49:24,">>122131600 >""High wages and high prices in an economic slump run contrary to everything we know about market forces in economic downturns,"" Ohanian said. ""As we've seen in the past several years, salaries and prices fall when unemployment is high. By artificially inflating both, the New Deal policies short-circuited the market's self-correcting forces."" http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409 >Despite the varied theories espoused by many establishment economists, it was none other than the Federal Reserve that caused the Great Depression and the horrific suffering, deprivation and dislocation America and the world experienced in its wake. At least, that’s the clearly stated view of current Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke. http://www.wnd.com/2008/03/59405/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C7Fd9Qt3ac",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492764564 122123085,122132153,2017-04-21 08:51:22,">>122131992 Worth noting that Herbert Hoover already implemented some proto-New Deal policies just after the recession hit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492764682 122123085,122132191,2017-04-21 08:51:48,">>122131878 Let's take this a step further. In a lolbertarian paradise, what prevents somebody from just printing out unlimited money? In real-life, the government carefully controls the cash supply. People who try to print their own money get arrested. But what happens in lolbertarian-ville? What stops me from just getting a high-quality printer and printing all the money I want? Eventually everybody else would also do this, causing hyper-inflation, and making the money worthless. It's horrifying to even think about. Thank god we have a government that prevents this from happening.",,Anonymous,the-thinker.jpg,BDQlwAm9N2NnYV/SOlTD5Q==,US,,1492764708 122123085,122132304,2017-04-21 08:53:17,">>122132191 You're literally just an ancap who is trying to bait other ancaps, aren't you?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492764797 122123085,122132321,2017-04-21 08:53:27,">>122131935 you should get the extra flags extension, it's pretty good shame barely anyone on /pol/ uses it, it's much more common on /int/",,Anonymous,Sem Título.png,r6wtRI6f6VuDSY1Sp0ydgg==,PT,,1492764807 122123085,122132370,2017-04-21 08:54:08,">>122132191 >what prevents somebody from just printing out unlimited money? What would prevent people from seeing his currency as worthless? > In real-life, the government carefully controls the cash supply. Yet it struggles with forgeries. And before governments existed we still had currency. >People who try to print their own money get arrested. But what happens in lolbertarian-ville? Nobody uses their money, people will switch to hard to forge cur ency like cold or silver.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492764848 122123085,122132436,2017-04-21 08:54:50,>>122130599,,Anonymous,1491846253583.jpg,mBuZkeoQ96g8mFy82Nc4jw==,GB,,1492764890 122123085,122132514,2017-04-21 08:55:44,">>122132370 >And before governments existed we still had currency. Shitty bait. 0/10. >BUT THE TRIBES USED SEA SHELLS WE SHOULD JUST GO BACK TO USING SEA SHELLS FUCK MONEY",,Anonymous,Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.jpg,YbIV6sqVcJrejLDLAB/apw==,US,,1492764944 122123085,122132652,2017-04-21 08:57:19,">>122132191 Please do something read and personal study before asking basic questions. > Let's take this a step further. In a lolbertarian paradise, what prevents somebody from just printing out unlimited money? They inflate their own money supply and it becomes worthless. > In real-life, the government carefully controls the cash supply. Wrong. Government inflate the money supply when they have to pay off massive debts. This eats away the savings of the people as the money people have saved loses it's value. Governments also print out lots of money to pay for welfare and social programs which they offer to people in exchange for votes which keep them in power. > But what happens in lolbertarian-ville? What stops me from just getting a high-quality printer and printing all the money I want? Nothing. Why? Money is used as medium of exchange. It's more convenient than barter. However, any currency is worth something if it's valued by both parties. If your money isn't backed by anything or heavily inflated it's not worth anything. > Eventually everybody else would also do this, causing hyper-inflation, and making the money worthless. This is quite ironic.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492765039 122123085,122132734,2017-04-21 08:58:22,">>122132514 We'd trade organs we harvest from people that step on our property.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492765102 122123085,122132749,2017-04-21 08:58:36,,,Anonymous,merely pretending to be retarded.png,HBKwXdl9gF86a/JJra5x3g==,PT,,1492765116 122123085,122132799,2017-04-21 08:59:21,">>122132191 >and making the money worthless Because arbitrary printed money is worthless. What makes currency valuable, like all other goods, is our subjective judgement of its value (although that doesn't mean we can't be correct in these judgements). The true value of a certain type of printed money, a certain rare metal or raw bartered goods is the ability to be transacted for wealth. What you are describing is the process of individuals creating a collective service, similar to the funding of healthcare, food, roads, power, defence or internet.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492765161 122123085,122132807,2017-04-21 08:59:23,">>122131951 >US was already a global superpower after WW1. You can thank based Wilson for that, but Keynes was still critical for getting the world out of the depression. If only he had been listened to sooner, millions of lives could have been saved.",,Anonymous,Woodrow_Wilson-H&E.jpg,DaTNHznlXIjymWLfdS3zTg==,US,,1492765163 122123085,122132850,2017-04-21 08:59:53,">>122132514 Currency actually goes back to early cities in Mesopotamia and the nearby places where they used metal pieces as coins.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492765193 122123085,122132932,2017-04-21 09:00:36,">>122132807 >You can thank based Wilson for that, No you can thank WW1 and the US arms industry. Go read a book nigger.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492765236 122123085,122132940,2017-04-21 09:00:42,">>122131099 Everyone who lost their money in the great deppression was a moron. Investing in the way that they did was projecting a clear crash. Not investing in solid assets was an additional mistep. They government wouldnt have had to step in if everyone was thoroughly educated in the stock market and how the free market functions. Everyone who had a brain, pulled out their assets and invested heavily in metals and other universally valuable goods was far better off than the average idiot that kept waiting for the market to recover. Thats not to say the government helped, it definitely did. But could we have been pulled put of the great deppression by some other means? Possibly, if the government sold more of its assets to the private sector and we instituted a focus on developing resource extraction and manufacturing over time the united states would most likely be both self sufficient and succesful. Granted it would take a couple more decades than what happened in history. But I will give Keynesianism a point on the scoreboard. It worked, it had side affects just like any theory. But it worked. >>122132191 Hard currency. Whats your point? That current fiscal policy wont work? Yeah I suppose so. What stops barter becoming more widespread if thats the case? It'll go back and forth, and standardized money is always appreciated, but its not neccisary for a functioning and economically healthy society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492765242 122123085,122132945,2017-04-21 09:00:45,">>122132652 >They inflate their own money supply and it becomes worthless. That was literally my entire point. If you just let anybody print their own money, you're going to have hyper-inflation. Which is why we NEED the government to control the monetary system to prevent that from happening.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492765245 122123085,122133130,2017-04-21 09:03:05,stop replying to autists,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492765385 122123085,122133217,2017-04-21 09:04:14,"Got a joke that's relevant, one of my favourites: Keynes, Bernanke, and Hayek were all off to work one day and ran into each other as they crossed the bridge. As they were walking, Keynes saw a pile of dog shit. ""I'll give you £10 if you give it eat it!"", exclaimed Keynes to Bernanke. ""You're on!"", Bernanke replied, and he glad did it. >Hayek looked on, confused They arrived at the office, and all went about doing their respective work. Come 5pm, they all left, and once again, they met before the bridge. Waking together, Bernanke spots another dog shit. ""I'll give you £10 if you eat it"", said Bernanke to Keynes. ""Right on!"" shouted Keynes, and once again, the dog shit was eaten. >Hayek was still perplexed and looked on in great confusion as the event unfolded a second time And so they continued walking. Once they got to the end of the bridge, and were all about to part their own ways, Hayek called them back. ""Why did you both eat those dog shits, it makes no sense"" asked Hayek. Well, they both replied, we've just created two jobs and GDP has gone up by £20! >and here ends the story on why Keynesian economics is a load of dog-shit.",,Anonymous,tfw to clever too use helicopters.png,ACU6pKCeca5UM0X5NqimKQ==,GB,,1492765454 122123085,122133433,2017-04-21 09:06:42,">>122133130 If one autist cant refute another, than clearly that autist is flawed in his stance and needs to revaluate his arguments and opinions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492765602 122123085,122133716,2017-04-21 09:09:57,"How do you read your ebooks? I've been trying to read Democracy: the God that failed, but my shit kindle fucks up the words and puts commas where they don't belong, it's incomprehensible almost. Harder than reading mein kampf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492765797 122123085,122133746,2017-04-21 09:10:21,">>122133433 Should we even address people who think free banking fails because ""people will print their own money""? I think there's just not enough time left on earth to get through some people's skulls thickness. We believe in optimization of resources, it is way more productive to do anything else than trying to convince total morons.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492765821 122123085,122134042,2017-04-21 09:14:00,Are more Americans self-righteous murderers than paleo-lib now. Vietnam had atleast 700 cases of fragging.,,Anonymous,download (28).jpg,pyhPxHf95E7IV7C+3P6heA==,AU,,1492766040 122123085,122134170,2017-04-21 09:15:27,">>122133716 desu i just buy physical copies",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492766127 122123085,122134191,2017-04-21 09:15:40,">>122133716 >Owning a kindle >Not just buying books off of Amazon",,Anonymous,1492219111895.jpg,9ZcWS3CE7y1+QwKXcwPB+w==,US,,1492766140 122123085,122134196,2017-04-21 09:15:42,">>122133746 Good point, links and sources would be a better allocation of resources.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492766142 122123085,122134274,2017-04-21 09:16:42,,,Anonymous,Nvw19gq.png,NBN4oraH3WKG5FowMD/Iaw==,US,,1492766202 122123085,122134276,2017-04-21 09:16:45,">people will print their own money Holy fuck, how dense do you have to be to think this would even happen? >you know what? Fuck Ancapistani dollars, I want to make Johnny Cash-cash >go to the store >yes, can I have a pack of cigarettes >five Dollars >hands him a 1,000,000 cash bill >Wtf is this? We don't accept that here, only dollars or BTC",,Anonymous,johnny-cash.jpg,J76wJpMzCulgKaZCLZGyuQ==,US,,1492766205 122123085,122134323,2017-04-21 09:17:19,">>122132945 Dangitt you're right! It's not like I could just refuse that certain hyperinflated currency",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492766239 122123085,122134399,2017-04-21 09:18:12,">>122132945 But you can't print gold or btc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492766292 122123085,122134437,2017-04-21 09:18:41,">>122133716 I hate reading on computer screens. Everything looks wavy to mean when I focus. Physical books rule.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492766321 122123085,122134649,2017-04-21 09:21:14,">>122134437 But what if you lose your page :^( >>122134170 >>122134191 I don't have enough free market credits to afford that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492766474 122123085,122134680,2017-04-21 09:21:33,">>122134437 This. Besides, I wouldn't forget myself if my library didn't have a copy of democracy the god that failed or anatomy of the state. I don't get many physical books but there are some that will come with me wherever I go.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492766493 122123085,122134741,2017-04-21 09:22:14,">>122134680 >forget forgive, damn correctors",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492766534 122123085,122134766,2017-04-21 09:22:31,">>122134399 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAhahaha. Thats the point",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492766551 122123085,122134867,2017-04-21 09:23:37,">>122132945 Money is a medium of exchange. In the case that 'it inflates', people have choice, which the market provides. Either you move to a currency which is stable in its supply, such as gold. Or you move to a currency which is fixed in its supply, such as bitcoin Or you move to a third currency which isn't inflationary. Once Government control the supply, it becomes inflationary by nature. It's not a coincidence gold and bitcoin have skyrocketed as they are the best alternatives as a store of value. Our middle class are being destroyed by the hidden tax of inflation. It is the biggest con in history.",,Anonymous,inflation.png,kIIcrvzrvWYETPTGK16TZA==,GB,,1492766617 122123085,122134873,2017-04-21 09:23:41,">>122123085 Why are libertarians suck Whikes? (White kikes). They claim to be anti-jewish, yet support a system dominated by jews. Even Austrian economics is dominated by jews. They are like racist wiggers who hate blacks but love the culture.",,Anonymous,1475899908373.gif,jltGVp0fShM49cNq/wYLSw==,US,,1492766621 122123085,122134881,2017-04-21 09:23:47,">>122134741 I love drinking you guys",,Anonymous,b88b6b4d-2d2f-4cb3-b61e-446d9e51b567_1.4e4f6bc6719c83e968fa0fade8726f05.jpg,vcOSoCyseA6i1BBbyA4ctw==,US,,1492766627 122123085,122134996,2017-04-21 09:24:56,">>122134399 >Believing the gold jew scheme.",,Anonymous,Good goy.png,IHFUQX+ZgLsKpnY/ScPbOg==,US,,1492766696 122123085,122135065,2017-04-21 09:25:47,">circulate gold and silver certificates >get accused of terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_dollar_(private_currency)",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492766747 122123085,122135080,2017-04-21 09:25:58,Don't tax the rich. No jew taxes allowed!,,Anonymous,ancap scared.png,ePnGMJqkayQSPUcE9SgVsQ==,US,,1492766758 122123085,122135103,2017-04-21 09:26:12,">>122134881 n-no homo, r-right?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492766772 122123085,122135106,2017-04-21 09:26:14,">>122134873 >if x does y then y is inherently bad Wow! Great logic! >>122134996 >Everything is the jews I can't wait until we gas all the Jews, then you fucking faggots won't have anything else to blame other than yourselves",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492766774 122123085,122135166,2017-04-21 09:26:57,">>122135103 Of course",,Anonymous,IMG_8546.png,hVmNyNmtcuQ6nYwk+oohwg==,US,,1492766817 122123085,122135217,2017-04-21 09:27:29,">>122123085 you do realise the libertarian right doesnt exist you can't be socially right and libertarian, its contradictory",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1492766849 122123085,122135370,2017-04-21 09:29:11,">>122135106 >I hate when jews exploit the people but when a white guy does it, then it is ok. I'm not all about the jews either, but you libertarians are delusional to think by getting rid of a race will have all your problems solved. It's like saying killing all blacks is good, but taking over their culture is fine as well. You just change the positions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492766951 122123085,122135476,2017-04-21 09:30:21,">>122135217 This Capitalism and liberalism are inseparable. Multiculturalism and transgenderism is individualism.",,Anonymous,Ancaps are jew lovers.png,gXnrn4GXqUtUCSPNq6f4XA==,US,,1492767021 122123085,122135678,2017-04-21 09:32:30,">>122135217 I can be in favor of legalizing drugs and slapping my son if he uses while living in my house. My property my rules, and let's make everything someone's property.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492767150 122123085,122135732,2017-04-21 09:33:01,"Option A: Destroy all socialists, communists, anarchists, feminists, anti-whites, (leftwing) universities, unions, etc. Option B: Destroy all corporations who promote the former (ex. Google and Disney).",,Anonymous,YCt6GtD.jpg,uneL/Jpkp3hdagW7DAWfAA==,US,,1492767181 122123085,122135805,2017-04-21 09:33:47,">>122135476 >Egalitarianism isn't collectivist",,Anonymous,1437108150624.jpg,/IO+IMMY3j9LgDyvID4vkw==,SI,,1492767227 122123085,122135915,2017-04-21 09:34:51,">>122135370 How would someone be exploited in the free market? >muh shitty work conditions >muh low wage Decline the contract and find work somewhere else >can't find more jobs, all factories do this, there is literally nowhere else to work Quit being a fucking pleb and make your own work. Also, this never happens, there is always work somewhere and you're not forced to work on a coal mine, you can move to a different city or industry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767291 122123085,122135965,2017-04-21 09:35:28,"Just remember, that you retards are indirectly support the wars in the middle east. Assad was voted in by a coalition of communists, socialists, and national socialists. The coalition wants nothing to do with international capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767328 122123085,122136056,2017-04-21 09:36:21,">>122135915 >Don't like the country? Just move Why are you using the statist logic?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767381 122123085,122136170,2017-04-21 09:37:40,">>122135915 This assume people can be equal and are equal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767460 122123085,122136254,2017-04-21 09:38:34,">>122135732 when you destroy a you destroy b ez",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1492767514 122123085,122136283,2017-04-21 09:38:49,">>122136056 Moronic comparison. If you don't like a job you can create your own company. How can I create my own country?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492767529 122123085,122136298,2017-04-21 09:38:59,">>122134873 >>122134996 >>122135080 Convert to judaism, marry a jew and learn economics. That way you'll be succesful. Or just hide out inna woods and blame the jews for literally everything ever. Theres a really big difference between zionists and the average jew. Learn to scrutinize the individual, not neccisarily just the institution. Thats what really matters. >>122135370 But it is about culture, ethnic shit is secondary compared to culture. >>122135678 Absolutely this >>122135732 A. Its not that hard >>122135965 I dont see the problem >>122136056 Because it applies. Its an individual choice retard. Do what you need to do to be succesful or dont.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767539 122123085,122136470,2017-04-21 09:40:47,">>122123085 Former Ron Paul supporter here. Not gonna lie, watching libertarians crash and burn has been hilarious but in all seriousness we can't let these guys get ahold of the federal reserves codes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767647 122123085,122136536,2017-04-21 09:41:27,">>122136298 So you believe everyone is equally responsible? Also, this assumes that all property is equal in power. It's not. If I control first order goods, all other goods are dependent upon me. It is just as bad a communism. There is no individuality because all products have to comply to the raw material I own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767687 122123085,122136606,2017-04-21 09:42:13,">>122135965 >directly fixed that for you Support your troops! They fight for liberty, empire, and private property.",,Anonymous,PomsvYS.jpg,7AQ2ZHK4qB54CVsTOTbnXg==,US,,1492767733 122123085,122136631,2017-04-21 09:42:31,">>122136298 Communism is just the restablishment of jewish capitalists. Both end up having a few control the first order goods.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767751 122123085,122136699,2017-04-21 09:43:11,">>122134649 > But what if you lose your page :^( SumatraPDF remembers your page.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492767791 122123085,122136795,2017-04-21 09:44:10,">>122136606 >>122136606 The libertarian nationalists are just closeted george bush lovers >We mus abandon free market principles to save the free market. >The NAP doesn't apply to statists You're just neo cons",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767850 122123085,122136850,2017-04-21 09:44:50,">>122136056 You don't have to be a statist to be honest. There is a huge cultural and economic difference between Boston, Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts, same state/area, but somewhat different cultures. You cannot deny that a coastal area of Ancapistan will be different than the inland >>122136170 Retards never address this, but survival of the fittest, if you're not fit enough you will perish. The West has been subsidizing disgenics for a very long time, with welfare and affirmative action. When we get rid of both lots of people will no longer be fit and will have to find a different way to get by than to participate in the free market, either by asking gibs at churches, or by becoming independent in some rural area (grow their own crops, do their own thing in the middle of nowhere)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767890 122123085,122136863,2017-04-21 09:44:57,">>122136298 >>122136254 >>122135732 >(((destroy a obviously lol))) yeah but if you kill that one generation of lefties right now, the companies and mega-shill-corporations will still be there to create more. >>122135476 also fuck off faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767897 122123085,122136911,2017-04-21 09:45:27,">>122136536 No. They dont. You can get the supply yourself, and if you create a monopoly on supply people will either find an alternative or search for more and compete when they find some. >>122136631 >>122136795 Then whats the answer genius. Really.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767927 122123085,122136975,2017-04-21 09:46:12,">>122136863 This guy gets it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492767972 122123085,122137111,2017-04-21 09:47:40,">>122136911 But if I own the a monopoly of raw materials then it will be against the NAP to take my property and to do what you want with it. There won't be any alternatives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768060 122123085,122137136,2017-04-21 09:48:03,">>122136863 Okay, then we let the lefties fail at finding jobs because they are worthless and when they breach the NAP we physically remove them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768083 122123085,122137137,2017-04-21 09:48:06,">>122137111 Nice get. NAP forever BTFO.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768086 122123085,122137215,2017-04-21 09:49:03,">>122136863 By the time they are created we have adopted a system where nobody has any right over your property, destroying democracy, and therefore completely removing any incentive to brainwash the youth.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492768143 122123085,122137272,2017-04-21 09:49:37,">>122137111 so basically... if i literally owned all of the property and land in the world and everyone was my property and i owned the sun and the entire universe then because NAP libertarians btfo:? looks like i'm a socialist now, let's give all of our resources to the state monopoly",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492768177 122123085,122137302,2017-04-21 09:50:00,">>122134323 Everybody will refuse it. The entire money system would fail apart. Thank god we have a government that prevents this horrific scenario from occurring.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768200 122123085,122137370,2017-04-21 09:50:39,">>122137111 Nope, if you find it you keep it. You cant patent someone elses shit if its already patented. Then it would be the monopoly breaching the NAP and they get sued and fucked over. >>122137272 Kek bassicaly this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768239 122123085,122137379,2017-04-21 09:50:45,">>122137111 >But if I own the a monopoly of raw materials Filed under things that would never happen.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492768245 122123085,122137464,2017-04-21 09:51:47,">>122137302 >The entire No, only the inflationary. Any smart business person would create a currency under a contract stating he will never print more of it, people will then flock to this currency and it will be accepted by everyone.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492768307 122123085,122137482,2017-04-21 09:51:59,">>122136699 How can I install that into pic related.",,Anonymous,old-book-17580496.jpg,k5WBEfLcDPAx31n7SYHOyQ==,US,,1492768319 122123085,122137544,2017-04-21 09:52:45,">>122137272 No. If I own a raw material like lumber, then all goods that need wood are indirectly mine. If I own the means of production, then you don't have full freedom over your property. >>122137370 I'm sure the poor homeless scavanger who takes the apples off a tree can afford the Mcdonald's court free that costs $50,000. Besides, both have to agree voluntarily to be at the court.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768365 122123085,122137570,2017-04-21 09:53:08,">>122137302 Yeah looks like the established monetary is right in every way with no flaws and praise the government blah blah blah do you know what hard currency is? Jesus. >>122137379 Its possible, but highly impractical.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768388 122123085,122137617,2017-04-21 09:53:28,">>122137379 >What is the war in the middle east about?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768408 122123085,122137651,2017-04-21 09:53:51,">>122137370 How do you enforce patents with no government? Don't worry, I know what you're going to say: >muh polycentric law You guys constantly use this polycentric bullshit as an excuse but you NEVER explain how it is supposed to work without a government to enforce the law.",,Anonymous,1492767584185.jpg,IO1uQCcdlKJORgid+nEKUQ==,US,,1492768431 122123085,122137858,2017-04-21 09:56:06,">>122137617 >the war in the middle east was about owning a monopoly on every raw material in the world so there wasn't an alternative. I need a bigger file.",,Anonymous,1422307500423.jpg,iStdYnXAz+cNtE/BTkt3Zw==,GB,,1492768566 122123085,122137884,2017-04-21 09:56:19,">Don't trust the people who you voluntalily chosen whose job it is to represernt you This is dictatorship >Trust a man who you don't know, never consisted to, nor even has any obligation to you. This is freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768579 122123085,122137886,2017-04-21 09:56:20,">>122137651 >NEVER explain how it is supposed to work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492768580 122123085,122137928,2017-04-21 09:56:56,:^),,Anonymous,lolberdarians btfo.png,G+uS9LdaAk6WMqOVhyoPyA==,US,,1492768616 122123085,122138052,2017-04-21 09:58:13,">>122137544 So if you own literally all of the wood in the world then you no longer have competition in wood, and nobody in the world has seeds, and there aren't trees in anybodies gardens or anything and you literally own every tree in the world? Well that sucks >>122137544 Why would the court fee cost $50,000? The resource cost is far lower than that, and he'd just be forced to work at McDonalds for however long the court states that he needs to do so in order to recover the costs he incurred to Mcdonalds If he disagrees to go to court then action he gets put on a list of people who avoided attending court upon being charged, and would be discriminated against.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492768693 122123085,122138077,2017-04-21 09:58:29,">>122137858 The only people fighting against the war in the middle east are the socialists. Assad, Saddam, and Ghadaffi were all socialists. I thought America was socialist? If it was true, then why is America trying to privatize banks all over the middle east?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768709 122123085,122138145,2017-04-21 09:59:08,">>122137570 >established monetary is right in every way with no flaws Basically yeah. You don't seem to have any counter-point besides straw-manning, so yeah. All hail based Yellen, high priestess of the federal reserve and guardian of monetary policy. >>122137886 I already watched that video. It doesn't explain anything. You should be able to explain how it works without relying on this as a delaying tactic. The current system works fine, so the burden of proof is on you to prove that your theoretical system would be superior.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768748 122123085,122138308,2017-04-21 10:00:44,">>122138077 >>122138145 Learn to argue with ancaps without resorting to ridiculous ""what if everybody just died?"" scenarios that will never actually happen or resorting to massive strawmen.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492768844 122123085,122138534,2017-04-21 10:03:10,">>122138308 Ancaps are the masters of strawman, though. >OMG you think that the government should exist, THAT'S LITERALLY COMMUNISM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492768990 122123085,122138598,2017-04-21 10:03:57,">>122138308 Well, we have to do what if's because the ideology is childish. There is no such thing as anarcho-capitalism. Anarchy means no rulers. Not even voluntary rulers aka bosses. I hate communists but ancoms are more for anarchy than you are. Anarchy is retarded but at least ancoms are less retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769037 122123085,122138638,2017-04-21 10:04:26,">>122137544 >If I own a raw material like lumber, then all goods that need wood are indirectly mine. Good point. Oh, will you look at that? I own the idea of digits repeating, so I'm afraid I'll need that $500 ($400 triples and $100 doubles) you owe me now.",,Anonymous,1492576157063.jpg,EoYqUXbh0yGMNH8ZQUTk8g==,US,,1492769066 122123085,122138647,2017-04-21 10:04:32,">>122138145 >Basically yeah",,Anonymous,file.png,+s9zf8M6lf6zmEhTUnhTpA==,GB,,1492769072 122123085,122138684,2017-04-21 10:05:02,">>122138534 This >Government is one person and all forms of government are exactly the same.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769102 122123085,122138713,2017-04-21 10:05:15,">>122138598 I never thought I'd find another group/ideology that requires more mental gymnastics than National Bolshevism",,Anonymous,262_1233951885.jpg,hQtNDBMy0aSPQdmQDUOyGA==,US,,1492769115 122123085,122138806,2017-04-21 10:06:07,">>122138598 >Not even voluntary rulers That's retarded. This would make even sports impossible.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492769167 122123085,122138877,2017-04-21 10:06:46,">>122138145 >It doesn't explain anything You're pushing it with these troll tactics. The simple answer is the companies agree on a court before the conflict. >The current system works fine No. When you have more control over the justice system instead of a monopoly that gets to do whatever the fuck it wants. Like the tax funded private prison looking to imprison as many people as possible with the help of the monopoly or Sweden where politics get in the way of justice and preventing further crime.",,Anonymous,Sweden justice.jpg,2MVgpxHDIKU/NA9ivG0kBw==,SI,,1492769206 122123085,122138912,2017-04-21 10:07:09,">>122138806 Indeed, anarchy is extremely retarded. And yet here you are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769229 122123085,122138951,2017-04-21 10:07:42,">>122138912 No, your strawman description of anarchy is retarded.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492769262 122123085,122138979,2017-04-21 10:08:02,">>122138806 Exactly. That's how retarded anarchy is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769282 122123085,122138990,2017-04-21 10:08:09,">>122138598 The word faggot means ""bundle of sticks"" guys! Haha look at this alternate definition I found guess you guys are super embarrassed now, huh? >>122138534 Nobody has said that, just that the state is bad and violates property rights. ""ancaps are the masters of strawmen"" he says, as he deploys a new one on the next line",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492769289 122123085,122139106,2017-04-21 10:09:27,">>122138877 >The simple answer is the companies agree on a court before the conflict. If I'm accused of murder, I'm not going to agree to ANY court unless I'm forced to. You cannot force me to court without violating NAP. Under the current system, this isn't a problem, because the government can just force people to stand for trial if there is enough evidence to justify it. But under ancap? If I refuse to show up, then there is NOTHING you can do stop me from ignoring you and your kangaroo court.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769367 122123085,122139107,2017-04-21 10:09:27,">>122138990 Anarchy means absent of authority. Which fucking means that having private property and having authority over it means it is not anarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769367 122123085,122139227,2017-04-21 10:10:45,">>122138877 How is this not white genocide?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769445 122123085,122139244,2017-04-21 10:10:54,">>122139107 Only if you're a poorfag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769454 122123085,122139251,2017-04-21 10:10:55,">>122139106 That's why it would be stipulated in the contract that if you were accused of a crime you'd be subject to investigation. Who the hell would insure you otherwise?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492769455 122123085,122139281,2017-04-21 10:11:14,">>122138145 Hard currency. Refute hard currency >>122137884 Point taken. What makes you think that a bisuness partner doesnt want success however? If one party doesmt benifit, the deals off. >>122137651 Enforce it yourself Petition your community Aquire weapons Private court NAP Physical removal By the time they get to private court, they will have to concede or risk their entire reputation. Nobody wants to associate themselves with authoriarian institutions that breach fundamental rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769474 122123085,122139308,2017-04-21 10:11:33,">>122138647 >Basically yeah",,Anonymous,inflation2.jpg,jG1WDHu+uIgjzVvRofEvxw==,GB,,1492769493 122123085,122139339,2017-04-21 10:11:50,">>122139244 >The poor don't have authority like the rich. Congratulations you aren't a anarchist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769510 122123085,122139436,2017-04-21 10:12:58,">>122138990 >just that the state is bad and violates property rights. The state defends property rights more often than not. If somebody steals your shit, you can call the police and they'll try to get it back. >>122139251 >That's why it would be stipulated in the contract that if you were accused of a crime you'd be subject to investigation. Why would I sign a contract that could lead to me being put on trial for something that I didn't even do? Fuck that shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769578 122123085,122139468,2017-04-21 10:13:23,">>122139281 What about the poorfags who don't have the same authority as these men? This just means a few makes the decisions while the many do not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769603 122123085,122139472,2017-04-21 10:13:25,">>122139107 So? Find a better name for anarcho-capitalism, then. Pointing out that the name is dumb doesn't actually refute the ideology.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492769605 122123085,122139518,2017-04-21 10:13:53,"Buying assets with electrons - what do you mean the portfolio rebalancing and signalling channel don't work? >Basically yeah",,Anonymous,qe.png,4yZE5JkAk4S1kh6ofif+jQ==,GB,,1492769633 122123085,122139550,2017-04-21 10:14:18,">>122139436 The existence of state police presupposes a violation of property rights. The violation of property by the state must occur before the state can protect you. Private security exist and can exist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492769658 122123085,122139592,2017-04-21 10:14:48,">>122139436 You can get put on trial under a government as well. At least this way you have a choice in the matter and can work to improve the system more effectively. If you can't be bothered and you want to go against all institutions in society the go ahead. You can reject any court just fine today. See what happens.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492769688 122123085,122139632,2017-04-21 10:15:13,">>122139472 >Find a better name for anarcho-capitalism, then. Privatism or propertarianism. It would still be stupid, but at least the name would make more sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769713 122123085,122139678,2017-04-21 10:15:54,">>122139468 >what are fundamental rights I agree that anarchy is stupid, having a limited government which gives power to the individual is more practical. But everyone has fundamental rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769754 122123085,122139706,2017-04-21 10:16:11,">>122139472 Plutocracy. The rule of the rich. Where the rich and those who have the most money make the final decisions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769771 122123085,122139745,2017-04-21 10:16:38,"https://www.richmondfed.org/~/media/richmondfedorg/publications/research/working_papers/2000/pdf/wp00-3.pdf >Basically yeah",,Anonymous,inflation3.png,XDyOxNp1p3hZmwPgk+aafg==,GB,,1492769798 122123085,122139859,2017-04-21 10:17:48,">>122139107 Anarchy is a stateless society based on voluntary associations. Your definition is only defended by commie retards who can't even understand Proudhon.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492769868 122123085,122139880,2017-04-21 10:18:01,">>122139678 I agree. I'm a guild socialist. I don't believe government should be in the economy but I also want the worker to have say. To have a balance between worker and employer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769881 122123085,122139883,2017-04-21 10:18:02,">>122139706 Yup. And the beautiful thing is everyone has equal opportunity to be rich. And no one can attack the poor on the basis of them being poor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769882 122123085,122139886,2017-04-21 10:18:05,">>122139592 >You can get put on trial under a government as well. Yeah, that's kinda the point. If somebody breaks the law, the government can force them to trial. But what happens under ancap? There is NO reason why I would EVER agree to a trial unless I'm guaranteed to win. You CANNOT force me to trial without violating NAP. I will completely ignore your kangaroo court and there is NOTHING that you can do about it.",,Anonymous,thinking-face.png,mhv6gLwd3GH0/CivBtm8Dw==,US,,1492769885 122123085,122139952,2017-04-21 10:18:40,">>122139706 Plutocracy is defined as a governmental entity.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492769920 122123085,122139964,2017-04-21 10:18:46,>Basically yeah,,Anonymous,effectivefedfundsrate.png,TicYK9hYO6O3ADtkhN346g==,GB,,1492769926 122123085,122140062,2017-04-21 10:19:58,">>122139883 Not everyone has equal opportunity to be rich in capitalism though. >>122139952 Which is why capitalism is never anarchy :^)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492769998 122123085,122140121,2017-04-21 10:20:37,">>122140062 le epic word spinning refutation of the market i love stalin now",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492770037 122123085,122140294,2017-04-21 10:22:26,"Worst IPO ever. >basically yeah!",,Anonymous,inflation4.png,/P4PfwWgAcIjMzXJjX3MmQ==,GB,,1492770146 122123085,122140335,2017-04-21 10:22:46,">>122140121 >Everybody who doesn't agree with ancap is Stalin",,Anonymous,gettyimages-508800640.jpg,r14WNE/7vZnRswcVpZgbgw==,US,,1492770166 122123085,122140420,2017-04-21 10:23:40,">>122139886 Fine join the mafia then. Good luck. Courts exist today because society wants them to exist. Why the would everyone just go to war instead of picking the companies that prefer a certain private court? >You CANNOT force me to trial without violating NAP. Muh NAP! Oh no. Entire ideology gone to shit. If you're suspect of a murder and you don't have an insurer and you're not willing to cooperate you're basically not working with society. Who gives a shit what happens to you?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492770220 122123085,122140518,2017-04-21 10:24:43,">>122140335 >argument eight bonanzo coffee refute fat coconut oceans >ke monkey facer lazer booms [insert reaction iamge[",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492770283 122123085,122140545,2017-04-21 10:25:01,">>122139952 And what stops a group of rich people from just creating a new government?",,Anonymous,man-thinking-small-e1415363287342.jpg,8cPeZIQ+EkxWibTRXbRoIw==,US,,1492770301 122123085,122140599,2017-04-21 10:25:33,">>122123085 Why libertarianism is better then communism? Both are memes",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492770333 122123085,122140761,2017-04-21 10:27:19,">>122140545 What enables them to? Are they just going to take over entire swaths of land by force and in the process out-gun all of the protection forces employed by the entire area combined, and then somehow avoid court and suffer hideous reputational losses regarding the keeping of contracts and contempt of court and they'd just be fine and suffer no losses?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492770439 122123085,122140762,2017-04-21 10:27:20,">>122140599 That's a total non-sequitur. Which part of libertarianism is a 'meme'?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492770440 122123085,122140810,2017-04-21 10:27:47,">>122140420 So basically in this society you can just murder anybody without consequences as long as the people you're killing can't afford insurance? Okay. You realize that this would LITERALLY lead to people harvesting the homeless for organs right? That's not even a joke, it WOULD happen.",,Anonymous,1425639762.jpg,5tiYV7RDla204w0/XotOdQ==,US,,1492770467 122123085,122140892,2017-04-21 10:28:40,">>122140599 Libertarians are neglectful parents Communists are like abusive parents. I'd rather be ignored than beaten. By the end of the day, both are terrible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492770520 122123085,122140902,2017-04-21 10:28:44,">>122140810 >harvesting the homeless for organs Problem?",,Anonymous,Rothbard clear em out.png,5LHHMCq/PadHGZNp4weHdg==,SI,,1492770524 122123085,122140941,2017-04-21 10:29:10,">>122139472 Whiteism, Christianism, or Americaism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492770550 122123085,122140961,2017-04-21 10:29:23,">>122140599 Why is living better than dying? Both are memes",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492770563 122123085,122141088,2017-04-21 10:30:30,">>122140810 Well, no, because people don't want to live next to murderers and you wouldn't go into a supermarket that didn't prohibit murder on their property.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492770630 122123085,122141102,2017-04-21 10:30:37,">>122140762 Ability to survive and don't switch to protostate.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492770637 122123085,122141115,2017-04-21 10:30:45,">>122139886 Contractual obligations. If you do not attend you breach this that and the other and an investigation will occur and look at that you have to attend court or else you will be physicaly removed. >>122140062 Yeah. Idiots dont get rich unless they are hard workers and come across large opportunity by coincidence of the actions if others, lazy people are the same. We should allow retards and the lazy and the poor an opportunity to be rich. Fundamental rights and a universal recognition of these rights become possible. People fail because of a reason. >>122140545 NAP. They can create groups and shit, if they want to inpose their will on others, they are breaching rights and will be physicaly removed. >>122140810 Nope. Murder breaches the NAP and fundanental rights. Without consent and a contractual obligation they cannot do it or their entire reputation will be ruined forever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492770645 122123085,122141151,2017-04-21 10:31:08,">>122140761 >What enables them to? They have money, resources, and connections. Hey, if some rich guy like Bill Gates or Donald Trump said he was going to start his own country I'd totally go along with it. It would be better than living in ancap-ville. Maybe they'd even give me a fiefdom for my years of faithful service. Might as well give it a shot.",,Anonymous,thinking_man_PNG11602.png,66EjrgYcdfZZMX56zxbJbQ==,US,,1492770668 122123085,122141184,2017-04-21 10:31:26,">>122140961 U mad.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492770686 122123085,122141233,2017-04-21 10:31:56,">>122141151 If it would be better than living in ancapville then why can't your citizenship there be on a contractual subscription to the ""government""?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492770716 122123085,122141422,2017-04-21 10:33:30,">>122141102 I'm sorry I don't follow. Are you saying we would not have an ability to survive? For a start, I'm a Minarchist, so the state still exists. /lrg/ =/= /ancap/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492770810 122123085,122141459,2017-04-21 10:33:48,">>122141088 People being killed for organs ALREADY occurs in countries where the government is too weak to maintain order. It's not a theoretical concept at all. This shit happens.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492770828 122123085,122141542,2017-04-21 10:34:35,">>122141115 I'm all for equal opportunity to achieve great things. I just believe man's skills and abilities are more than just quantitative things. I believe in equal starts but not equal results.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492770875 122123085,122141732,2017-04-21 10:36:14,">>122141459 If you lived in Ancapistan would you contract with a company that did something about these murders or would you just let it continue?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492770974 122123085,122141742,2017-04-21 10:36:21,">>122141151 >Hey, if some rich guy like Bill Gates or Donald Trump said he was going to start his own country I'd totally go along with it The irony, of course being, that under the current nation states, you don't have the ability to do that, and would be locked up for attempting it. This 'new' country started by Gates would no doubt have voluntary contracts - you agree to the taxation, and he protects you, provides borders, and a judicial court of law. Congratulations, you're a Libertarian.",,Anonymous,umm.jpg,CrQKvf5AH/xdYeFQ4fKDHA==,GB,,1492770981 122123085,122141837,2017-04-21 10:37:05,">>122141542 equal starts is literally impossible and is only somewhat feasible under entire totalitarianism >>122141459 the key word is government as in, a monopoly on protection as in, there is only one single protection agency there and it is bad as in, this is as much of an argument against the market as ""supermarkets don't work in free markets because this one country has a supermarket monopoly mandated by the government and the supermarket there doesn't even sell bread""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492771025 122123085,122141869,2017-04-21 10:37:19,">>122125178 1 7 7 6 7 7 6",,Anonymous,George Washington crossing the Delaware.jpg,vlhmwtRDcVc8BuyOKSta6Q==,US,,1492771039 122123085,122141973,2017-04-21 10:38:17,">>122141732 But these people live in reality, and there is no such contract for police force to maintain order. Why would I start a business to fight organ stealers, and to protect people who have little to no money? There is no profit motive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771097 122123085,122142087,2017-04-21 10:39:06,">>122141837 I believe people are inequal. I see capitalism and communism to oppressor of true individuality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771146 122123085,122142257,2017-04-21 10:40:50,">>122141973 the city or town planner would probably just have a requirement upon buying property there which states ""don't kill people"" that's all it takes",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492771250 122123085,122142290,2017-04-21 10:41:10,">>122141732 Why would I want to protect poor people who have little to no money when I could just steal their organs for more money?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771270 122123085,122142362,2017-04-21 10:41:53,">>122141973 >there is no such contract for police force to maintain order See you haven't been paying attention. >protect people who have little to no money So you don't care if plebs get BTFO right next door to you? Then why should you be forced to pay for it with taxes? Enjoy your community. Sounds cool.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492771313 122123085,122142365,2017-04-21 10:41:54,">>122142257 So a gun free zone?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771314 122123085,122142445,2017-04-21 10:42:41,">>122142362 Look. If I have the money to start a police force, I wouldn't stay in that area. I'll just move.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771361 122123085,122142487,2017-04-21 10:43:00,">>122142365 no, a zone in which you would be punished or taken to court for killing somebody, for the purpose that people would pay more to live in such a zone",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492771380 122123085,122142551,2017-04-21 10:43:34,">>122124003 >Hans-Hermann ""Get to the chopper I'm the commie stopper"" Hoppe",,Anonymous,1483852367223.gif,1EVVp/3D/xF/VQ2IjtNfrw==,US,,1492771414 122123085,122142591,2017-04-21 10:43:48,">>122142487 So, I'm forced to go to court? So government is the solution?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771428 122123085,122142609,2017-04-21 10:43:56,Reminder that libertarianism only works if you live in a world ruled by white males (something only NatSoc can provide),,Anonymous,1477890948063.png,Dea2DD71whAcbszf6DvhUw==,BE,,1492771436 122123085,122142712,2017-04-21 10:44:45,">>122141115 >Contractual obligations. I'm not going to sign any contract that allows somebody else to put me on trial without my permission. I'm not going to surrender my freedom to a private entity that easily. >NAP. Not a real thing unless somebody can enforce it. It's like saying that with no government things will be fine because everybody will just follow the 10 Commandments. >>122141732 The demand for organs is really fucking high dude. A kidney = $250,000. A heart = $1,000,000 dollars. A liver = $500,000. Even bone marrow is sellable for thousands of dollars. It would be too profitable to NOT do it. And since none of the people that we're killing have ""insurance"" nobody would stop us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771485 122123085,122142725,2017-04-21 10:44:51,">>122141459 That's why enforcement of the NAP is paramount to the society. Anyone who breaches it should get helicopter ride. As a Minarchist Libertarian I believe the state is best in place to achieve this. If not, private military will. >inb4 they don't exist https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/30-most-powerful-private-security-companies-world-dominic-a-ienco >>122142609 Wrong, border enforcement is a key principle of /lrg/. We want to trade with the black man, but at a distance.",,Anonymous,violence.png,pqpOCb3VKUBtE3nMFAyOGA==,GB,,1492771491 122123085,122142790,2017-04-21 10:45:23,">>122142445 >plebs stay behind >they kill each other off >property becomes cheap as hell >but it all >clear out the vermin Job done. Also it's a ridiculous scenario. Even poor people can pay for security. It's a service market.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492771523 122123085,122142859,2017-04-21 10:45:53,">>122142257 >the city or town planner would probably just have a requirement upon buying property there which states ""don't kill people"" >the city or town planner So there is a local government. Okay.",,Anonymous,4a8d4dc46676db92841e6c84b858df9a_thinking-man-png-png-smart-man-clipart_1169-916.png,yCWzRMXIyN109kLNf0wtIw==,US,,1492771553 122123085,122142989,2017-04-21 10:47:05,">>122142591 You violated a natural law right of another sovereign being. You must answer to the person(s) family with restitution and or necessary retribution.",,Anonymous,natural law.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,US,,1492771625 122123085,122143012,2017-04-21 10:47:18,">>122142591 no, you're not forced. you can choose not to go to court. your contract with your place of residence would be null and void, though, and you would be physically removed from the city and would be put on a global register of murderers and court dodgers",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492771638 122123085,122143022,2017-04-21 10:47:25,">>122142859 >Town planning That's called a mayor",,Anonymous,steevo 4.jpg,6PyuvL1Z8MxAfkGWuTYoYA==,US,,1492771645 122123085,122143131,2017-04-21 10:48:12,">>122142859 if you're willing to define a supermarket as a micro-government then sure, there's government, but then you're losing the initial idea of what state is - coercive and without contract.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492771692 122123085,122143175,2017-04-21 10:48:37,"I am yet to see an anti-/lrg/ argument that doesn't presuppose some ridiculous hypothetical world in which everyone is hellbent on everyone else's destruction. The mere course of human history, from tribal nomads to galaxy exploration should tell you everything you need to know in terms of cooperation and community sense ingrained in human consciousness.",,Anonymous,1491751225858.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,GB,,1492771717 122123085,122143258,2017-04-21 10:49:22,">>122142725 >Wrong, border enforcement is a key principle of /lrg/. We want to trade with the black man, but at a distance. ooh my mistake you're another closet fascist too scared and brainwashed to swallow the redpill (for now)",,Anonymous,1478446720817.png,iMIZNcrp18iL+7XW8OjWXQ==,BE,,1492771762 122123085,122143319,2017-04-21 10:49:51,">>122142790 >Even poor people can pay for security. Literally how does a homeless person afford enough security to keep the organ harvesters at bay?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771791 122123085,122143344,2017-04-21 10:50:05,">>122142989 Why? Sounds like a social contract.",,Anonymous,why.jpg,vfEOaMuU8vxxjhFs8n/dVg==,US,,1492771805 122123085,122143458,2017-04-21 10:50:56,">>122143175 >terms of cooperation and community sense ingrained in human consciousness. This is true. And government is a natural product of that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771856 122123085,122143477,2017-04-21 10:51:07,">>122142712 If nobody wants to pay for protection against it why do we pay for an inefficient monopoly through taxes? If nobody wanted such protection why not just vote against such laws and have the government crack down on hobos and start supplying them sweet sweet fresh organs? >>122143319 >homeless person On whose street is he starving? Hopefully not mine.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492771867 122123085,122143583,2017-04-21 10:52:06,">>122143175 HOL UP *smacks child* SO U BE SAYIN *sends child to public school to avoid being shot* U BE SAYIN DAT *files taxes worth 60% of one's income so that they can be redistributed to third world immigrants for left wing votes* DAT U CAN WEEZEL UR WAY OUT OF THIS ONE?? :: what if someone bought LITERALLY everything including you and then destroyed it all?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492771926 122123085,122143617,2017-04-21 10:52:26,">>122143258 No, I have free will and wish to exercise it without an authoritarian government telling me what to do and when. But keep LARPing on the internet as a fascist whilst you drink your Kenyan coffee beans.",,Anonymous,1491858324926.jpg,ApKrxOgYzshgjCuInDR1vw==,GB,,1492771946 122123085,122143655,2017-04-21 10:52:49,">>122143175 Childish ideologies get childish arguments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771969 122123085,122143676,2017-04-21 10:52:59,">>122123085 What about all of us sensible moderates that attack each issue with critical thinking and logic? Are we to be removed as well?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771979 122123085,122143692,2017-04-21 10:53:07,">>122143477 >If nobody wants to pay for protection against it why do we pay for an inefficient monopoly through taxes? Because believe it or not, I like living in a place where people aren't harvested for organs if they're overdue on rent for two weeks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492771987 122123085,122143728,2017-04-21 10:53:26,Libertarians are like liberals. They believe in this black vs white moral crusade.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492772006 122123085,122143730,2017-04-21 10:53:26,>>122143583,,Anonymous,1398036391099.jpg,iklded9vbmravV666fyyog==,GB,,1492772006 122123085,122143930,2017-04-21 10:55:22,">>122143458 >And government is a natural product of that. *voluntary cooperation Not an Orwellian state taxing me at 50% so they can support another nigger child and start another pointless war.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772122 122123085,122144036,2017-04-21 10:56:18,">>122143319 so people would just run the risk of killing whoever they want and hoping that they are one of the very few people who isn't covered by protection and hoping that the people around them don't care that they're a murderer and the property owner of the property that they're murdering on really likes murder too",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772178 122123085,122144041,2017-04-21 10:56:20,">>122134276 >Implying that 5 dollars is worth more than 1000000 real, high quality Johnny Cash-cash",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1492772180 122123085,122144060,2017-04-21 10:56:33,">>122143930 >can support another nigger child Still thinks only blck people collect welfare. Wake up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492772193 122123085,122144093,2017-04-21 10:56:51,">>122143728 fascists are like liberals. they believe in this black vs white moral crusade",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772211 122123085,122144107,2017-04-21 10:57:01,">>122143692 >I like living in a place where people aren't harvested for organs Yeah, no shit. Me too. You people always come up with this ""Save everybody!"" attitude. Guess what. The government isn't saving everybody. Shit like that happens under governments all the time. And I like how you're your own argument against shit like that happening. You say you care about people getting fucked by organ harvesters yet you presume nobody will give a shit under an ancap system. So ridiculous.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492772221 122123085,122144140,2017-04-21 10:57:16,">>122144060 It's tongue and cheek you spanner.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772236 122123085,122144250,2017-04-21 10:58:18,">>122143692 so you're saying you'd prefer to live in a location where people agreed to not harvest the organs of poor people? cool, if people agree with you then such a society would be profitable.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772298 122123085,122144396,2017-04-21 10:59:39,">>122143617 >Government disappears >Rich people instantly form a new government, only this time there is no democracy so you have even less power in the system >>122144036 >so people would just run the risk of killing whoever they want What risk? These people that we're killing don't have ""insurance"" or at least not enough to stop my team of organ harvesters. There is no risk. It's like slaughtering chickens. >>122144107 >The government isn't perfect so we shouldn't have any government",,Anonymous,shkval2.jpg,CtUYl/3u/QzChI9z8OwwBw==,US,,1492772379 122123085,122144554,2017-04-21 11:01:13,">>122144396 Would you prefer to live in an area in which people aren't habitually slaughtered for their organs?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772473 122123085,122144559,2017-04-21 11:01:14,">>122144093 Except that they don't. Fascism is like a canvas ideology. Fascism in europe will be different from fascism in the arab world. We don't believe that in every soul, there is a liberal, libertarian, ancap, or ancom. Neo cons are just the trostkyites of the libertarians. While ancaps are just the leninists. Both want the same thing but through different means. Neo cons and ancaps both want a capitalist world. Neo cons just realize overthrowing socialists is the best way, while ancaps whine about the wars despite being for them. I don't fight for the sake of humanity. I fight for the sake of organic cultures around the world. I don't believe all men are individuals nor do I see them as a blob of one race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492772474 122123085,122144583,2017-04-21 11:01:30,">>122144396 >>Rich people instantly form a new government, only this time there is no democracy so you have even less power in the system Fortunately we have property laws to prevent this. Libertarians also aren't an-caps, Government won't 'disappear'.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772490 122123085,122144693,2017-04-21 11:02:30,">>122144396 >The government isn't perfect so we shouldn't have any government Yea that's exactly it. I think the market works better.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492772550 122123085,122144787,2017-04-21 11:03:30,">>122144559 all men are literally individuals you didn't actually make any arguments. i want the state to fuck off. i think it is a good idea. i think it will help people. i do not call people evil for thinking otherwise, i do not think fascists evil, socialists evil or communists evil. i think that they are wrong. calling ancaps the capitalist equivalent of leninists does nothing. i am not going to topple world governments by force. i just want to live on a society without a government.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772610 122123085,122144836,2017-04-21 11:03:55,">>122144583 >Libertarians also aren't an-caps Oh sorry, you're not ancap? All my arguments are specifically geared towards ancaps sorry for the mix-up. Carry on you're free to go. >>122144693 >Implying the government and the market can't co-exist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492772635 122123085,122144919,2017-04-21 11:04:43,"Wew, I'm going to have to make a new thread at this rate to continue our discussions. /lrg/ is growing. >>122144836 As you were then.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772683 122123085,122144947,2017-04-21 11:05:02,">>122144396 Your argument is that it's initially a little unstable so new governments might form? No shit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772702 122123085,122144953,2017-04-21 11:05:05,">>122144836 >government and the law/security market can co-exist",,Anonymous,1434469884582.jpg,7BchDDnAd+0nPwgWHWEIbQ==,SI,,1492772705 122123085,122144970,2017-04-21 11:05:11,">>122144554 >Would you prefer to live in an area in which people aren't habitually slaughtered for their organs? I already do live in such a place.",,Anonymous,1491630347145.jpg,M00as75O3OFElUfifI62Zw==,US,,1492772711 122123085,122145168,2017-04-21 11:06:57,">>122144970 You didn't actually answer, but I'll assume you mean yes. As such, you would be willing to pay more money to live in that place. Taking a man to court to face the fees that a court selected by (You) would do unto him for murder would in fact be a profitable endeavour. (You) could take the murder to court and if the proceeds go nowhere else then they would go to (You)!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772817 122123085,122145193,2017-04-21 11:07:07,">>122144787 Then you are no better than the SJWs who demand all individuals to be respect no matter how degenerate it is. You want to live in a society without government. Aka no socialists, no communists, no fascists. You say that government starts wars. Again, you say you aren't for these wars, yet are for them when it comes to the American government toppling statists and replacing it with a less statist ideology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492772827 122123085,122145215,2017-04-21 11:07:20,">>122143617 sure thing mate, have fun when the billions of refugees kick you out of your house",,Anonymous,1479550559687.png,RGpOfQK7GmozXq4t/aiI2A==,BE,,1492772840 122123085,122145365,2017-04-21 11:08:52,Why does everyone have to be forced to accept your ideology? No everyone wants anarchy. You would have to use force.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492772932 122123085,122145423,2017-04-21 11:09:22,"What's your guys' stance on race? Will you let nonWhites into our borders? What's your opinion of Rockwell's World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492772962 122123085,122145430,2017-04-21 11:09:27,">>122145215 >what are borders",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492772967 122123085,122145487,2017-04-21 11:09:58,">>122145365 No they wouldn't. We would just have our territory where we enact our own rules.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492772998 122123085,122145546,2017-04-21 11:10:30,"NEW >>122145495",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492773030 122123085,122145574,2017-04-21 11:10:45,">>122145487 But you would have to topple government though aka force and coercion. War.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773045 122123085,122145666,2017-04-21 11:11:37,">>122145487 In order to stop war, you would have to have a global revolution. Aka a world war.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773097 122123085,122145762,2017-04-21 11:12:37,">>122145430 >what is libertarianism babies first day among libcucks?",,Anonymous,1477760691432.jpg,GM1p4oet5LTOiE4H94DUIg==,BE,,1492773157 122123085,122145918,2017-04-21 11:13:59,">>122145574 It would be self-defense in that case. However like most anarcho-capitalist I believe we can convince people and if enough people desist from paying taxes and disregarding the state, then we wouldn't need violence. A lot of people we might convince might be government workers, police officers, soldiers and etc. It would also be interesting in that (as you might respond) the government might choose to escalate it's actions if the number of anarcho-capitalists increases in that territory. This would further prove the point of the anarcho-capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492773239 122123085,122145998,2017-04-21 11:14:55,">>122145666 I haven't set that Utopian goal",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492773295 122123085,122146369,2017-04-21 11:18:23,">>122145918 >If everyone agrees then the world will be a better place. What are you five? This assumes everyone will just accept it. You would need violence and to purge the statists who are not in government power. Basically, what the Bolsheviks did.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773503 122123085,122146872,2017-04-21 11:23:29,">>122146369 As I said. 1. People could use force to defend themselves 2. Most likely people could vote in ancaps who would dissolve the government 3. Or people would simply reject the government's authority Are they going to arrest 100,000 tax protestors? The UK prison population is 89,000.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492773809 122145495,122145495,2017-04-21 11:10:00,"Previous arguments >>122123085 This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Which statist will concoct the most hypothetical scenario edition,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,GB,,1492773000 122145495,122145790,2017-04-21 11:12:51,How would you transition into a ancap world without war?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773171 122145495,122145860,2017-04-21 11:13:28,">>122145790 >everyone elects an ancap parliament >dissolve parliament forever",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492773208 122145495,122145879,2017-04-21 11:13:36,">>122145495 >>122145168 I don't know what your point even is. There are some problems the free market just can't solve because it isn't profitable to solve them, but still has to be done for purely moral reasons. Sometimes, doing the right thing just isn't profitable. Ancap has no answer to these situations.",,Anonymous,s4dTtBy.jpg,rvHGDaxbyOUhhuLyq76EiQ==,US,,1492773216 122145495,122145894,2017-04-21 11:13:46,"Reminder that libertarianism is only possible in a world ruled by white males (something only NatSoc can provide) >inb4 cucks complain about muh ebil nazi government",,Anonymous,1477890948063.png,Dea2DD71whAcbszf6DvhUw==,BE,,1492773226 122145495,122145914,2017-04-21 11:13:58,ANARCHO-CAPITALIST TRADIONAL CATHOLIC WITH OLD SOUTHERN ARISTOCRATIC CULTURE MASTER RACE,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773238 122145495,122145970,2017-04-21 11:14:41,">>122145860 All government in the world would have to consent, which is unlikely. It would require a U.N. type thing. Aka globalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773281 122145495,122145996,2017-04-21 11:14:54,">>122145894 Reminder that nazi germany was the freest society of the past century",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492773294 122145495,122146015,2017-04-21 11:15:07,">>122145894 This is RIGHT libertarianism. Not left egalitarian shit. Learn the difference, read the OP.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492773307 122145495,122146092,2017-04-21 11:15:51,where does the food come from?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492773351 122145495,122146108,2017-04-21 11:16:01,"So, /lrg/, yellow/black pill me on agorism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773361 122145495,122146165,2017-04-21 11:16:30,">>122145495 am i too moderate for this thread",,Anonymous,8values.png,4OBEIGy3rdRbAkmSoKW72Q==,JP,,1492773390 122145495,122146209,2017-04-21 11:16:53,,,Anonymous,IMG_8549.jpg,YX2NCJPjGUinTmq79WbA6Q==,NL,,1492773413 122145495,122146221,2017-04-21 11:16:59,">>122145879 >doing the right thing just isn't profitable Are you retarded? If there's demand for such a service there's gonna be supply, making the companies that would provide these services money.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492773419 122145495,122146273,2017-04-21 11:17:32,">>122145970 >All government in the world would have to consent, which is unlikely What?? I'm talking about one area or country. >>122146092 What the fuck? Is food provided by the state in Britain?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492773452 122145495,122146291,2017-04-21 11:17:42,">>122145495 How do you feel about borders, lad?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773462 122145495,122146355,2017-04-21 11:18:16,>Anarchy,,Anonymous,4ac.jpg,ioEd5N+LCe4fz+ve3VyOYQ==,US,,1492773496 122145495,122146362,2017-04-21 11:18:20,">>122146273 farming subsidies are a huge thing just about everywhere.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492773500 122145495,122146411,2017-04-21 11:18:47,">>122146221 And what if the market demand for something that is completely immoral is higher than the market demand for getting rid of it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773527 122145495,122146419,2017-04-21 11:18:52,">>122146209 Hurricane Katrina was because of capitalism people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773532 122145495,122146423,2017-04-21 11:18:55,">>122145495 >lolbertardian general this will be fun",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1492773535 122145495,122146459,2017-04-21 11:19:20,Reactionary liberty is the only way,,Anonymous,Picture 1.png,Gatu2zBbMK0Q5TmC0S6m5Q==,US,,1492773560 122145495,122146505,2017-04-21 11:19:41,">>122146362 >huge thing Most don't receive it. Even if they do, it is paid for by taxes. There's no magical money tree.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492773581 122145495,122146534,2017-04-21 11:19:56,">>122146273 Then you are just wanting a state (with borders, laws, and a land owner who makes the laws) that simply has a free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773596 122145495,122146551,2017-04-21 11:20:03,">>122146411 Ask the taxpayers for money for more bombs to start wars, I guess.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492773603 122145495,122146588,2017-04-21 11:20:24,">>122145970 Assertion without an argument >>122145894 This is quite wrong. A big reason why whites can't congregate together is because of diversity quotas which use state violence to break up white enclaves and government intervention which sends non-whites into whites neighbourhoods to 'diversify' the area. Another issue is that people are forced to hand over their children to state schools that indoctrinate children into multiculturalism and teach anti-white rhetoric. Anti-white propaganda and racism is subsidized by the government through tax cuts for companies that meet diversity quotas, affirmative action and through the funding of public radio and TV.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492773624 122145495,122146649,2017-04-21 11:21:11,">>122146209 I hope the ancaps ITT will not respond to posts like these",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492773671 122145495,122146700,2017-04-21 11:21:38,">>122146534 I'm a Minarchist >The state to exist solely to protect citizens from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud. >Minarchists generally propose that the only legitimate governmental institutions are the military, police, and courts.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492773698 122145495,122146758,2017-04-21 11:22:18,">>122146588 How else would you have global anarchy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773738 122145495,122146817,2017-04-21 11:22:52,">>122146291 They must be enforced, strictly. JFs out.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492773772 122145495,122146876,2017-04-21 11:23:31,">>122146092 mummy just puts a plate with tendies in front of the door",,Anonymous,image.jpg,v2Q0g6JXzmcKFD1VPPMFpg==,FR,,1492773811 122145495,122146951,2017-04-21 11:24:13,">>122146758 Why don't you start thinking about the assertion you made before and start fleshing it out which will prove you aren't a waste of time.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492773853 122145495,122146963,2017-04-21 11:24:19,">>122146355 >An (Without) >Archon (Master) >Unironically posting a puke meme against people who don't believe in slavery. Kys.",,Anonymous,socialism.png,04c0eFGtWTCmmysQO8K63w==,US,,1492773859 122145495,122146989,2017-04-21 11:24:39,">>122146876 Could you please translate this for me into French",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492773879 122145495,122147042,2017-04-21 11:25:13,">where does the food come from This should be a new meme desu.",,Anonymous,14004414320280.jpg,WtJ17bE2coWjwqI/wrb7+A==,GB,,1492773913 122145495,122147083,2017-04-21 11:25:33,">>122146951 Well, i'm not a child who believes in anarchy. Stupid assertions are given to stupid ideologies. You said, I had no argument, yet gave no argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773933 122145495,122147089,2017-04-21 11:25:40,">>122146551 Sometimes that is unfortunately necessary. Sometimes the morally correct outcome isn't the outcome which lines up best with profit. Ancap has no answer to these situations. If we go purely by the free market, then chattel slavery was a very good thing, because it was quite profitable for the people who engaged in such activities. The free market didn't abolish slavery. It couldn't. The market wanted slavery to continue. The government had to step in and say ""this is immoral, you are not allowed to do this, no matter how profitable it might be.""",,Anonymous,James_Hopkinsons_Plantation_Slaves_Planting_Sweet_Potatoes.jpg,1hikmfvG313UU4FqM4BFtw==,US,,1492773940 122145495,122147152,2017-04-21 11:26:13,">>122146963 A boss is a master. Ancaps aren't anarchists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492773973 122145495,122147172,2017-04-21 11:26:26,>>122146165,,Anonymous,ULTRA CAPITALIST.png,vLCet9/GJa8gyb27CKan1w==,US,,1492773986 122145495,122147284,2017-04-21 11:27:37,">>122146505 your an retard farms are subsidised to make food cheaper (though the cost is paid for by taxes, the richer end normally pays more of this burden) so when a libby society comes up, doesn't tax and expects the free market to raise food prices but that's okay because nobody's paying taxes, you'll be shocked to discover you're inexplicably importing food. In fact, this happens to a whole range of industries. People move there to avoid taxation, and import goods that other countries taxpayers pay for. And then soon enough those countries have your libertarian paradise by the balls, because you don't have any farmers, or anyone ready to take up those jobs when those exporters jack up tariffs. So good fucking job starving everyone... again",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492774057 122145495,122147291,2017-04-21 11:27:44,">>122146989 Maman met juste une assiette avec des nuggets devant la porte I can't translate tendies, I never understood what it was exactly",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492774064 122145495,122147305,2017-04-21 11:27:49,who /confederate ancap/ here?,,Anonymous,IMG_1868.jpg,hoEgiRVX0wUr7v5sXf8tdQ==,US,,1492774069 122145495,122147323,2017-04-21 11:27:57,">>122147152 >What is entrepreneurship, self-reliance, personal responsibility.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492774077 122145495,122147359,2017-04-21 11:28:20,">>122147083 Stupid assertions are a reflection of the author's mental capacity. Your assertion just showed that you are incapable of reasoning and since anarcho-capitalism is a rational approach to statecraft you have just signaled that you are a waste of time since you can't reason or reject rationality. In the meanwhile you've experienced voluntary disassociation. A recurrent theme in anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492774100 122145495,122147409,2017-04-21 11:28:43,">>122146588 >Implying that diversity quotas won't get BTFO now that conservatives control the SCOTUS again Wow, voting worked!",,Anonymous,Neil Gorsuch.jpg,+dJFBZIL33ggOdtSvTbgSA==,US,,1492774123 122145495,122147448,2017-04-21 11:29:08,">>122147089 >the state kills millions of people needlessly on a regular basis >let's rely on these cunts for imposing morality Nope. >The free market didn't abolish slavery. Machines were a huge part in abolishing slavery. You think the government made that happen? >The government had to step in and say ""this is immoral The government also subsidized it for a long fucking time. Since ancient history.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492774148 122145495,122147483,2017-04-21 11:29:25,">>122145495 :^)",,Anonymous,lolberdarians btfo.png,G+uS9LdaAk6WMqOVhyoPyA==,US,,1492774165 122145495,122147511,2017-04-21 11:29:40,">2017 >not being a Distributist Cucks",,Anonymous,78674-004-DAF84FEF.jpg,UTUobA/hq34SyD5Imy1x/g==,US,,1492774180 122145495,122147516,2017-04-21 11:29:42,">>122147291 Tendies are fried (or baked) chicken tenders. Google that. Google translate gave two suggestions blanc de poulet, escalope de poulet",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492774182 122145495,122147624,2017-04-21 11:30:38,">>122147323 >The richer makes the final decisions. The poor don't. >>122147359 Blah blah blah, something LOGIC blah blah blah REASON blah blah blah You are just cliche aren't you? You had no argument. I gave an argument, and you refuse to rebuttal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492774238 122145495,122147645,2017-04-21 11:30:53,">>122147483 >235 votes",,Anonymous,1492550418892.png,JnhjHj9uQ06yRfnkJV8cIA==,US,,1492774253 122145495,122147722,2017-04-21 11:31:39,Mutualism is better than ancapism.,,Anonymous,tom.png,mLcIoY7hK2qCZUsjeT7q7g==,BR,,1492774299 122145495,122147795,2017-04-21 11:32:13,">>122147284 Supply and demand is not a concept you are well versed on, clearly. If food becomes expensive (lets ignore this retarded hypothetical scenario in which a nation of cheaper food producers decide for some unknown reason to set tariffs) then a new firm will enter the market, probably a domestic one. Nations also have a comparative advantage and specialise in what they are good at producing. David Ricardo wrote about this back in 1772 and in 2017 you can't grasp this concept.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492774333 122145495,122147873,2017-04-21 11:32:57,">>122147645 >235 anons don't count Take your degenerate bullshit back to plebbit",,Anonymous,fascesborder2.png,pCnsP2v7j2oUauaoGbY73Q==,US,,1492774377 122145495,122147903,2017-04-21 11:33:14,">>122147624 >All government in the world would have to consent, Why? > which is unlikely. It would require a U.N. type thing. Aka globalism. Why?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492774394 122145495,122147926,2017-04-21 11:33:28,">>122147624 >>The richer makes the final decisions. The poor don't. What are you even saying. A central bank with a fiat currency wouldn't even exist. Besides that, eventually virtue and gifting economies would undermine that of monetary and ultimately kill the illusion of money and give us the true MON (ONE) EY (EYE) of knowledge, which is giving to others because you know it comes back to you in some way, always. So shortsighted. Stop thinking merely with the left brain there buckaroo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492774408 122145495,122148044,2017-04-21 11:34:48,">>122147448 >the state kills millions of people needlessly on a regular basis A very curious claim. Care to back it up with evidence? >Machines were a huge part in abolishing slavery. Plantation owners did not release free all their slaves overnight just because some new-fangled machine was invented. The US army came in and freed the slaves. >The government also subsidized it for a long fucking time True. But then through the power of democracy, the people were able to install a new government that abolished slavery.",,Anonymous,18_ulysses_s_grant.jpg,erdKA543EnpLvv213YxVww==,US,,1492774488 122145495,122148093,2017-04-21 11:35:12,">>122147516 we don't really make the distinction between tendies and nuggets in colloquial speech, nuggets isn't even translated. Blanc de poulet and escalope usually refers to the piece of chicken without the breadcrumbs",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492774512 122145495,122148155,2017-04-21 11:35:53,">>122147903 Because anarchy is internationalist and if a state refuses to to accept anarchy then you wouldn't have anarcho capitalism. All government need to disolve at once or a state will simply take over the balkinized ancap communties across the globe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492774553 122145495,122148205,2017-04-21 11:36:19,">>122147795 Yeah, but do you really want to be completely dependent on other countries for your food supply?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492774579 122145495,122148269,2017-04-21 11:36:49,"These libertarian right threads are chocked full of left brained parasitic subhuman sub-130 iq trash that cannot comprehend the simple laws of the creator. What a waste of time. Later nigger cattle, just remember eugenics ultimate expression of itself is absolute freedom. Whites rule in a contributionist and anarchic society.",,Anonymous,1492740102005.jpg,XuSVza3ON6tareEMcjcBZg==,US,,1492774609 122145495,122148419,2017-04-21 11:38:25,">>122147795 or maybe you're just not grasping the issue. Don't pretend I don't understand supply and demand just because you're too stupid to see the problem. the food isn't expensive because it is imported. there is no ""supply goes up to meet demand, because it's a good place to capitalise"" Doesn't make it that far. So then the issue becomes that your reliant on imports- so you'd better pray to whatever gods you have that you have something to export in turn. And all things held equal, the only thing you really have to offer is cheaper labour.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492774705 122145495,122148431,2017-04-21 11:38:34,">>122146092 >where does the food come from? Somebody turn this into a fucking brain meme of arguments against libertarianism and put this at the end",,Anonymous,1491799200615.png,bsMjM911THH8MBjzHcaBkg==,CA,,1492774714 122145495,122148454,2017-04-21 11:38:45,">>122148205 >Yeah, but do you really want to be completely dependent on other countries for your food supply? Again, a totally ridiculous hypothetical argument. After transport costs and transactions costs, THERE IS NO WORLD in which it is cheaper to buy basic food which I can plant in my back garden now than it would be to import it across half the world. The price goes up a bit? Well guess what, I employ some local people to grow my garden, and I sell it at the market. The reason the West are no longer farmers are because we can all achieve higher seeking jobs. Do not mistake that for an inability to farm.",,Anonymous,_MQA9121 copia.jpg,yYbzMLg5oe9Q15/fH/SXPA==,GB,,1492774725 122145495,122148486,2017-04-21 11:39:16,">>122147926 You do realize the wars in the middle east are about privatizing banks? Ghadaffi, Saddam, and Assad all have/had state owned banks. It was those who wanted the free up the market who wanted those wars. Also, the gold standard is a meme. There isn't enough gold in the world to have a true capitalist world. If one nation doesn't have a gold standard then it can just be a new fiat currency situation where they inflate the military to overthrow the gold standard nations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492774756 122145495,122148752,2017-04-21 11:42:05,">>122148269 Stay and argue with them. Bring them around.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492774925 122145495,122148835,2017-04-21 11:42:53,">>122148454 But farmland itself in finite. The government therefore has an interest in protecting that farmland from being developed and paved over. Any finite resource has to be regulated to prevent it from being squandered. And this is honestly something it needs to do more of. We're losing too many farm fields to land developers building new houses for retiring baby boomers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492774973 122145495,122148989,2017-04-21 11:44:26,"So what if I shared a pond with another covenant and I shat in my part of the pond but it floats over to him, causing the death of his children that ate the shit, mistaking it for a fish floating at the surface ? Am I to blame and can he retaliate, because it was a passive violation of the NAP or is it fine, because I simply had to do it ?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492775066 122145495,122149041,2017-04-21 11:45:04,">>122145914 are you literally me?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492775104 122145495,122149119,2017-04-21 11:45:51,">>122146209 >114 million native Americans >Only one million Germans killed in concentration camps by Americans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492775151 122145495,122149133,2017-04-21 11:45:58,">>122148419 >the food isn't expensive because it is imported. Because with competition the market price has come down. So in your world, I'm unable to produce anything (of course I can, but I can do better paying jobs, so I choose to) and there is only one other producer who has a monopoly (another impossible scenario). If they raise their price, I will go somewhere else. If they all raise their prices (the only case this happens is OPEC), then I will produce it myself, or someone else will enter the market.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492775158 122145495,122149267,2017-04-21 11:47:23,">>122149133 you're acting as if you could grow food the instant the tariffs go up",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492775243 122145495,122149287,2017-04-21 11:47:40,">>122148835 >But farmland itself in finite. The government therefore has an interest in protecting that farmland from being developed and paved over. Any finite resource has to be regulated to prevent it from being squandered. And this is honestly something it needs to do more of. We're losing too many farm fields to land developers building new houses for retiring baby boomers. Because the market values new houses over farmland. If it didn't, we'd all knock down houses to build farms.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492775260 122145495,122149306,2017-04-21 11:47:52,">>122146649 sorry >>122146209 Are you fucking retarded? Capitalism is literally just ""Hey dude, I have a dollar. Can I get an egg?"" NONE OF THE SHIT YOU HAVE LISTED HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH CAPITALISM EXCEPT THAT IT HAPPENED UNDER A CAPITALIST SOCIETY BUT OH FUCKING WAIT HALF OF THOSE THINGS DIDNT EVEN HAPPEN WHEN CAPITALISM WAS A THING YOU FUCKING RETARD GET A HELIUM TANK AND OFF YOURSELF, COURTESY OF CAPITALISM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492775272 122145495,122149346,2017-04-21 11:48:14,">>122148044 >A very curious claim. >American Makes sense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll >the power of democracy Explain why ancap would lead to slavery. It's more likely a state would go full tyrannical despite being initially democratic. Like with Hitler. Also thanks to the actions of your wonderful democracy Libya now has open market slave auctions.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492775294 122145495,122149409,2017-04-21 11:48:54,">>122149287 >Because the market values new houses over farmland. And that's the problem. The market always favors short-term profit regardless of long-term consequences.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492775334 122145495,122149429,2017-04-21 11:49:15,">>122149267 Of course I couldn't, but I would expect that I have a contract with my supplier that he will provide me x food at x price for x time. I can also take out financial contracts to hedge against the price fluctuating (as many farmers currently do). The entire economy is built on confidence and foresight.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492775355 122145495,122149550,2017-04-21 11:50:26,">>122149409 >The market always favors short-term profit regardless of long-term consequences [citation needed] And who are you to determine what is worthwhile in the long run?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492775426 122145495,122149683,2017-04-21 11:51:41,">>122149429 >but no confidence in government who's enforcing those contracts? your private army?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492775501 122145495,122149746,2017-04-21 11:52:10,">>122146700 Who decides what they enforce? That's literally the entire point of the legislature, and your idea precludes the other two concepts set up in the majority of democratic republics. It seems like that type of government generally creeps into an authoritarian (((republic))) over time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492775530 122145495,122149899,2017-04-21 11:53:30,">>122149683 A judicial court of law, like any contract breach.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492775610 122145495,122149922,2017-04-21 11:53:49,">>122148989 >>122148989 Answer my toth-approved question, please.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492775629 122145495,122149927,2017-04-21 11:53:52,">>122149346 >Explain why ancap would lead to slavery. Because slavery is quite profitable in some areas. The only reason it stopped is because the government stepped in to outlaw it. The government stepped in and said ""no, this is immoral, you may not do this, no matter how profitable it might be for you."" >>122149550 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons",,Anonymous,f1e32dc53a875bdc8cfd3024fc564a87.jpg,IELcpW0/QJF4gJOH0nvxqg==,US,,1492775632 122145495,122149936,2017-04-21 11:53:55,">>122148835 You've stumbled upon a fundamental point of contention within the capitalist v. socialist debate. Socialists advocate for central-planning by a government as you are now. You are advocating that the government allocate how the land should be used. Capitalist would leave this to the free market. This means all the actors (persons, groups, organisations and businesses) through voluntary cooperation decide to trade their economic resources together. This produces the best allocation of goods. In fact communists in Soviet Russia initially refused to even put prices on economic resources (things of value that are rare or finite in quantity). Later on they had. Prices gave a good indication of what was in demand and was not. > Any finite resource has to be regulated to prevent it from being squandered Regulation does more harm than good. Finite resources would be allocated based on price. Say I have a huge swath of land far away from the city and far away from a suburban area. It wouldn't be in my interest to develop housing. If my land is fertile I might grow corn, and let's say the soil I have is perfect for corn but not for tomatoes, potatoes or anything else besides corn. Meaning if I grow corn and say the entire processing of planting, watering, protecting, and harvesting my crop per year is $600,000. This is regardless of whether I plant tomato, carrots or potatoes. Since my goal is profit I want the plant which will yield the most fruit. Since the soil is suited to corn. I'll plant corn since if I planted tomatoes I wouldn't get as much yield and I might find that the plants begin to rot or become vulnerable to insects. By simply setting profit as my goal, which wouldn't be hard to impose on people since when people decide to open a business they do so mostly with the express purpose of making money, the free market has allocated the resources to their best use simply because the best use is the most profitable.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492775635 122145495,122150061,2017-04-21 11:55:00,">>122145860 >fiat currency collapses >enforcement power of state fails >""i won't shoot folks for free!"" >wtf we're somalia now >people choose >some choose to be assholes and form ministates >others choose not to be assholes and remain ancap because it's the natural state of mankind >anbaps meanwhile never even notice and thrive >now they are having fifteen or twenty living children a family >now one hurts them because they are the only ones who know how to do anything at all anymore and unless you want to go to los angeles and play cannibal durby they are good to have around >eventually all other ways of life die out >all n. america becomes a pristine wilderness speckled with anbap colonies which never exceed 250 people >hunting, fishing, gathering all possible again >massive forests harvested by two-man saw and mules >innovations in beauty and truth we cannot even imagine >a thousand years later, everyone has become indigenous again >the end",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492775700 122145495,122150101,2017-04-21 11:55:23,">>122147645 I remember voting for something like this and the results came out as like 50% 50% libertarian/fascist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492775723 122145495,122150218,2017-04-21 11:56:48,Equality is a false god,,Anonymous,8values.png,2g506vNaI5UU0O+MnCLVuA==,US,,1492775808 122145495,122150267,2017-04-21 11:57:18,">>122150061 >99.99% of everyone who lived in the country is now dead >this is a good thing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492775838 122145495,122150362,2017-04-21 11:58:06,">>122149927 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons Top kekekek - this is an argument in favour of private property. To solve it read Coase Theorum. It is is mostly perpetuated by the state. For more read: https://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/15/the-state-is-a-tragedy-of-the-commons-3/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492775886 122145495,122150423,2017-04-21 11:58:39,">>122150218 I think we'd get along all right.",,Anonymous,8v.png,J5ZmyoYWGo+ZXTjoIjKEcA==,US,,1492775919 122145495,122150435,2017-04-21 11:58:50,">>122145996 >▶ >>>122145894 >Reminder that nazi germany was the freest society of the past century >not the European monarchies predating the end of WWI Hitler should have reinstated monarchy like he promised, we wouldn't be in this mess if he did.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492775930 122145495,122150496,2017-04-21 11:59:20,">>122150267 Something went wrong.",,Anonymous,world-population-1820-to-2010.png,Kn0vg9jDhT9SbfNN2iXdsw==,US,,1492775960 122145495,122150531,2017-04-21 11:59:35,">>122150435 Fucked up my post. was only meant for>>122145996",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492775975 122145495,122150703,2017-04-21 12:01:12,Anyone here looking forward to Caplan's new book?,,Anonymous,,,JP,,1492776072 122145495,122150717,2017-04-21 12:01:18,">>122150423 >Neo-Lib fuck off hill dawg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492776078 122145495,122150814,2017-04-21 12:02:09,">>122149927 >The only reason it stopped is because the government stepped in to outlaw it. >Britain gets industrialized >doesn't need slaves anymore >bans slavery >the north gets industrialized >doesn't need slaves anymore >bans slavery >the south still needs them >war It had fuck all to do with morality. It was always about control. If it were still profitable for the upper echelon of society it would still be done. >Because slavery is quite profitable in some areas. Specific examples and why the fuck would a government solve it more effectively than the market. Women forced into prostitution are forced into slavery more often because prostitution is illegal. Who would go to such a shady brothel if it were legal?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492776129 122145495,122150972,2017-04-21 12:03:29,"Nice to see that you faggots scare away from real debate. Typical Libetarian faggots. >dude weed lmao >420 blaze it broseph watson lel >lel open borders ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Fuck you and your crypto-Jesus Gary Johnson. Fucking faggots.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492776209 122145495,122150988,2017-04-21 12:03:40,">>122150061 >fiat currency collapses Because it is so not collapsing at the moment. Worst IPO ever. You forgot the part where normal humans (read: 99.99% of the population) form a private military to protect themselves. Anyway, I'm not an ancap so I cba defending their ideology.",,Anonymous,inflation5.png,V+ufTHhywTA13wbHSVY4Yw==,GB,,1492776220 122145495,122151039,2017-04-21 12:04:09,"Your comment was beyond ridiculous....Really? What a way to throw in the victim card.. Whites definitely team up once there is a common enemy in their sacred little neighborhoods..They rarely welcome them with open arms...I have no clue what suburbs you have ever been to or lived in where non-whites come into neighborhoods and separated whites...They actually bring them together....How does hiring less qualifed whites over a non white race even help build any establishment...Any real business man would see that is just counterproductive and not wise by any stretch of the imagination...Most of the non-whites were full on being discriminated against..watching whites with lower performances be awarded and promoted..It was just unfair in general.",,Grab Her By The Pussy,,,US,,1492776249 122145495,122151102,2017-04-21 12:04:45,">>122150972 Read the OP you spanner.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492776285 122145495,122151291,2017-04-21 12:06:26,>>122150423,,Anonymous,Me values.png,2RcchH3ciTZAO19IYz2u9A==,US,,1492776386 122145495,122151309,2017-04-21 12:06:34,">>122151102 >3 posts >spam >people the posts are directed to ignore them, because they're faggots >dude weed open borders lmao",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492776394 122145495,122151417,2017-04-21 12:07:50,">>122151309 What are you talking about? Why are you arguing with a non-entity? >Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492776470 122145495,122151456,2017-04-21 12:08:18,">>122149936 >You are advocating that the government allocate how the land should be used. This is already accomplished through zoning laws. >>122150362 It's an argument that resources which are finite should be regulated in such a way to promote sustainability. Actions which a very profitable in the short-term can have very negative long-term consequences. For instance, hydraulic fracturing is extremely profitable but it basically ruins all the surrounding land. In the short-term, it's great because it's very profitable and it provides people with good-paying jobs. But in the long-term, it's terrible because it contaminates ground-water, releases shitloads of methane into the atmosphere, and causes earth-quakes in surrounding areas. It's great for the economy in the short-term, but it's going to be incredibly destructive in the long-term.",,Anonymous,568dc513190000190178b43d.jpg,zriyb/CG4o4Rfpxki9RBxQ==,US,,1492776498 122145495,122151575,2017-04-21 12:09:18,">>122150717 >less than 10% off your chart in any given category >completely opposing political platform",,Anonymous,???.png,65kkYwjLWDcscMC3iZlydg==,US,,1492776558 122145495,122151708,2017-04-21 12:10:38,">>122150988 Americans are too fat, feeble, and deskilled to do provide for their most basic needs in the event of a real economic collapse. Without food, you die, and nothing will prevent it. The only cure for hunger is eating, and the catastrophically tiny number of people who have learned how to or still remember how to make food will not sustain the country's population. Also, you must factor in petrochem fertilizer which powers most American staple agriculture. That won't be a thing. Neither will powered irrigation or tractors. That means that the Midwest will dustbowl out pretty quickly with disastrous results. >t. we're fucked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492776638 122145495,122151754,2017-04-21 12:11:02,">>122151456 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY-T_4blwrM Yes, and Coase Theorum solves that.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492776662 122145495,122151761,2017-04-21 12:11:04,">>122150814 >Britain gets industrialized >doesn't need slaves anymore >bans slavery So you admit the British government banned slavery? The British slave-owners didn't give it up out of the kindness of their hearts, the government forced them to. The free market supported slavery. The government stepped in an stopped it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492776664 122145495,122151952,2017-04-21 12:12:55,">>122151417 >pretending to disavow of Johnson >next post: dude weed lmao Typical rebbit fag, gtfo, you still didn't answer my question",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492776775 122145495,122151963,2017-04-21 12:13:04,">>122151708 It's probably a transition that would have to be taken very slowly over many years. Or you start from a world of no state. But yeah, I'm a Minarchist/PaleoLib.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492776784 122145495,122152012,2017-04-21 12:13:30,">>122151952 What is your question?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492776810 122145495,122152111,2017-04-21 12:14:24,">>122151761 >doesn't need slaves anymore >The British slave-owners didn't give it up out of the kindness of their hearts Wat. It banned it for its colonies to get more influence. That's what really mattered.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492776864 122145495,122152121,2017-04-21 12:14:28,">>122152012 >So what if I shared a pond with another covenant and I shat in my part of the pond but it floats over to him, causing the death of his children that ate the shit, mistaking it for a fish floating at the surface ? >Am I to blame and can he retaliate, because it was a passive violation of the NAP or is it fine, because I simply had to do it ?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492776868 122145495,122152391,2017-04-21 12:16:58,">>122151754 I'm not interested in theoretical solutions to real problems. The real solution is simply to tighten environmental protection laws and ban fracking completely. It's immensely profitable in the short-term but incredibly destructive in the long-term. At some point you just have to accept that some issues are too important to leave to chance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777018 122145495,122152397,2017-04-21 12:17:01,">>122152121 There's no such thing as passive violation of the NAP, you either generate aggression, either by negligence of by intention, or you don't. In this case, your negligent use of the pond is generating externalities and you would be convinced for manslaughter.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492777021 122145495,122152444,2017-04-21 12:17:32,"We need more land, and to embrace agrarian life for true libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777052 122145495,122152448,2017-04-21 12:17:32,">>122152121 >>So what if I shared a pond with another covenant and I shat in my part of the pond but it floats over to him, causing the death of his children that ate the shit, mistaking it for a fish floating at the surface ? That would be settled in a court of law. Sounds like manslaughter. >Am I to blame and can he retaliate, because it was a passive violation of the NAP or is it fine, because I simply had to do it ? That's aggression which would violate the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492777052 122145495,122152471,2017-04-21 12:17:42,">>122145495 where is Nozick in that picture?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1492777062 122145495,122152518,2017-04-21 12:18:15,">>122151963 Problem is, it cannot >be taken very slowly over many years at this point. You probably know this, but it bears mentioning, that because the whole structure of our culture and society is built around a specific State apparatus with a specific history and identity under girding it. I tend to believe it was built to breed as many people as possible so as to have the largest number of human permutations possible in order to harvest workers for the Elite immortality project which has kicked into overdrive over the past twenty years by stealing time and resources from the future to facilitate technological and medical advances for that same immortality project in a desperate race against the consequences of such economic meddling. I also don't think we're going to make it to their technological singularity finish line. I think shit is hitting the fan really soon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777095 122145495,122152581,2017-04-21 12:18:52,">>122152111 The government abolished slavery. You can speculate however you wish about the ""real motivations"" but the fact remains: the government abolished slavery, the market did not. Slavery was profitable for the slave-owners and they had no reason to stop until the government forced them to stop.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777132 122145495,122152718,2017-04-21 12:20:13,">>122146951 That's not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777213 122145495,122152833,2017-04-21 12:21:17,">>122152518 >a specific history and identity under girding it , removing any one part will cause the whole thing to come toppling down. >got ahead of myself >sorry",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777277 122145495,122152864,2017-04-21 12:21:39,">>122152581 Jesus christ it abolished because the market enabled prosperity without it. Without the market slavery would still be here and you'd be toiling away for scraps for massa. And you still didn't explain why it would be allowed under ancap.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492777299 122145495,122152870,2017-04-21 12:21:42,">>122152391 >theoretical http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/us/01wind.html?_r=2&hp https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303654804576343763766328484 >At some point you just have to accept that some issues are too important to leave to chance. These issues are best left to the market and not some statist who thinks he knows best.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492777302 122145495,122152899,2017-04-21 12:21:58,">>122152581 The government as an entity doesn't have a mind of it's own. People in the government ended slavery. People could likewise in an anarcho-capitalist society refuse to trade with people who own slaves or could hlep forcibly liberate the slaves ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW guys I think we should start flagging people like this guy who don't respond to arguments but go on autistic tagents.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492777318 122145495,122153040,2017-04-21 12:23:11,r8 me libertarian general,,Anonymous,fascism.png,fxBTXd3XgqaIbdk6R6CwQw==,GB,,1492777391 122145495,122153102,2017-04-21 12:23:51,">>122147926 So would you recede to a trade and barter system or gold based currency?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777431 122145495,122153152,2017-04-21 12:24:21,>>122153040,,Anonymous,trashed.png,tNurDJxcP0XKJ9/401mrbA==,GB,,1492777461 122145495,122153249,2017-04-21 12:25:11,">>122152864 >Jesus christ it abolished because the market enabled prosperity without it And that's why Haïti is an economic shithole because they abolished slavery too soon (Also niggers) Also I'm back",,Anonymous,image.jpg,pYW42sMQ7IfuzgX0k3alJw==,FR,,1492777511 122145495,122153490,2017-04-21 12:27:32,I'm still a principled libertarian I just happen to believe strongly in physical separation.,,Anonymous,Non-Interventionist.jpg,KIfO7kcmz1kHC0Y/RFbDvA==,US,,1492777652 122145495,122153621,2017-04-21 12:28:43,">>122153249 >Haïti is an economic shithole because they destroyed their land base the same way it probably would have been destroyed were the French to have maintained control and continued to farm sugarcane the same way they had been.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777723 122145495,122153833,2017-04-21 12:30:35,">>122152581 >The government abolished slavery. read the amendment. no they fucking didnt",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777835 122145495,122153970,2017-04-21 12:31:51,">>122153102 one that has byzantine fault ttolerance, something states have never solved",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777911 122145495,122154065,2017-04-21 12:32:41,">>122153621 >developping an economically favorable agriculture >bad If they stated with us thirty more years their situation would be more stable than now you cosmopolite",,Anonymous,image.jpg,OUyDhqcoVPw4AA8bYMRcDg==,FR,,1492777961 122145495,122154082,2017-04-21 12:32:50,">>122153833 Are you saying that people would have just stopped? I mean, there are still slave markets in other parts of the world right now. They would dissolve? So confuse right now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492777970 122145495,122154143,2017-04-21 12:33:23,">>122152899 >People in the government ended slavery Very true, and very obvious. >>122152864 >And you still didn't explain why it would be allowed under ancap. Slavery in the US existed up until the exact point that laws were passed against it. So if those laws were removed, it makes sense that slavery would return in some way. Probably not of the cotton-picking variety, but other types of slavery, certainly. Especially sexual slavery, or slavery for the purpose of ""growing"" and harvesting human organs. >>122152870 Having a company pay nearby land-owners as compensation for an egregious negative externality is a good idea, but the problem of noise pollution is relatively simple compared to many other long-term environmental hazards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492778003 122145495,122154382,2017-04-21 12:35:34,">>122154065 You all couldn't even stay with your own selves over those thirty years. How could you possibly expect San-Domingue to keep up? The French revolution is the whole reason the Haitian Revolution happened. Well, that and yellow fever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492778134 122145495,122154535,2017-04-21 12:36:54,">>122154143 >Having a company pay nearby land-owners as compensation for an egregious negative externality is a good idea, but the problem of noise pollution is relatively simple compared to many other long-term environmental hazards. Maybe you are right, but these so called long-term hazards are so wishy-washy. The chances we all get wiped out by an asteroid eclipse a world in which 'long-term environmental hazard' brought around by some selfish firm kills us all. I just don't think it is a reality.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492778214 122145495,122154867,2017-04-21 12:39:42,">>122153970 Can you explain byzantine fault tolerance to me? I looked it up and am too retarted to understand it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492778382 122145495,122154907,2017-04-21 12:40:07,">>122154535 So much so, that the free market is already providing solutions to many of these hazards which were perpetuated by governments of recent past https://twitter.com/Grid_Media/status/855324680076484608 >we renewable energy nao",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492778407 122145495,122154935,2017-04-21 12:40:21,">>122153833 >read the amendment. no they fucking didnt They literally fucking did. The government passed a law (actually a constitutional amendment, the highest form of law in the USA) that outlawed slavery. >>122154535 >but these so called long-term hazards are so wishy-washy No, they fucking aren't. That's basically just an excuse to say ""I don't understand the science so let's do whatever is profitable in the short-term even if it has disastrous long-term consequences.""",,Anonymous,2014-06-21-13thAmendment-thumb.jpg,uFufon/JPsiXm72EhQhXIA==,US,,1492778421 122145495,122155204,2017-04-21 12:43:13,">>122154382 >The French revolution is the whole reason the Haitian Revolution happened I know that,that's why the french revolution is at 90% a mistake,I was talking in an uchronic way",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492778593 122145495,122155270,2017-04-21 12:43:49,">>122154935 Instead you advocate for ""I don't understand the science so let's do absolutely nothing until we do""?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492778629 122145495,122155399,2017-04-21 12:44:55,">>122154935 In India and China no such 'green laws' that we have in the West are enacted and we're all still alive. >muh long-term consensus More wishy-washy crap. Scientists don't have a clue, we can't predict the weather accurately for the next week, how are we going to predict long-term hazards, brought about by corporations of the future in 100 years time, and therefore pass legislation now to prevent it? Total fairyland bollocks and you know it.",,Anonymous,1409493631307.jpg,HgJvRRoD8cB/poo/wlc2Gw==,GB,,1492778695 122145495,122155739,2017-04-21 12:48:20,">>122155399 >In India and China no such 'green laws' Yeah. Exactly. Let's look at the results of that for a moment. Seeing this shit makes me REALLY appreciate the comparatively strong environmental protection laws that we have in the US. I still believe that the laws must be strengthen further, but I'm not envious of China or India.",,Anonymous,article-0-14E285F6000005DC-205_964x598.jpg,vjlKgS5xSmyVVT+OK8fQGg==,US,,1492778900 122145495,122155784,2017-04-21 12:48:56,">>122154143 >sexual slavery Do you have the memory of a gold fish? I already told you that sort of slavery is encouraged by the prohibition of prostitution. Or do you think the government has a magic wand to eliminate all ills of society? In some cases it even helps the perpetrator due to political motivations and connections.",,Anonymous,Muslim pedos.jpg,FlOrNP/9hFjqTGxjkMaIyg==,SI,,1492778936 122145495,122155946,2017-04-21 12:50:37,">>122155739 son you have a lot to learn about white people its not explicit regulation that makes them great",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492779037 122145495,122155963,2017-04-21 12:50:48,>>122155739,,Anonymous,EPA oops.jpg,RkRQT1q8+7rSU3wjtI9PlQ==,SI,,1492779048 122145495,122156034,2017-04-21 12:51:36,">>122155739 Whats wrong with Algae and sediment in rivers?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492779096 122145495,122156095,2017-04-21 12:52:24,">>122155739 All I can say is thank god for environmental protection laws. >>122155784 I'm in favor of legalized prostitution so long as it is done in a properly regulated manner. Any prostitution involving children or human trafficking should be 100% illegal.",,Anonymous,132689663_6301n.jpg,m1LQb+6vz86+4O2k6pKxBA==,US,,1492779144 122145495,122156218,2017-04-21 12:53:40,">>122155739 Coase Theorum solves for this which was the original point which you agreed to so I don't know why you are starting this argument again. The problem you are looking at is because the water IS NOT PRIVATISED. The state HAS FAILED TO REGULATE IT CORRECTLY, and your argument is that this is somehow the fault of Libertarian philosophy? The problem here IS THE STATE. Moreover, if you think Government failure doesn't exist then I have news for you.",,Anonymous,1416863566763.png,M4ci+RJct6batA+9XKXg7A==,GB,,1492779220 122145495,122156292,2017-04-21 12:54:32,">>122156034 >>122155963 >tfw fishing in ancap paradise",,Anonymous,k5mmi.jpg,tQCVJDhSW/iA/tENeUZahg==,US,,1492779272 122145495,122156447,2017-04-21 12:56:13,">>122156095 If those laws work why don't niggers stop littering ? My local parks are carry in carry out and black families get pissed when there is no trash can and just throw their garbage on the ground. Puerto rican people come to crab and fish and give 0 fucks about limits or minimum sizes and will keep anything they catch. I do cleanups of my local beaches, rivers, lakes, etc. and 99% of the harmful trash is all consumer shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492779373 122145495,122156457,2017-04-21 12:56:17,">>122156292 >ancap paradise >posts government managed river Every fucking time.",,Anonymous,1449698272171.jpg,tfr40sPnuHkvdlradscQWQ==,SI,,1492779377 122145495,122156551,2017-04-21 12:57:17,>>122156457,,Anonymous,141719353646184.png,pz9YS0swfF+XkljOJct/kQ==,GB,,1492779437 122145495,122156848,2017-04-21 13:00:25,">>122156218 >if you think Government failure doesn't exist I never said this. No reasonable person would ever suggest such a thing. However, at the same time, no reasonable person would suggest that all those problems would just go away if the government magical disappeared. There would be a power vacuum, some fighting, and then a new government would form. Maybe a better government, maybe a worse government. You never really know how it will turn out, which is why overthrowing the government should always be a last resort. In 1917, the Russians overthrew their Tsar and ended up with somebody far worse as a replacement.",,Anonymous,Russian_Revolution_of_1917.jpg,AawY/jOXrrwrLR8gyfyXCA==,US,,1492779625 122145495,122156999,2017-04-21 13:02:05,">>122156848 Who said anything about overthrowing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492779725 122145495,122157268,2017-04-21 13:04:43,,,Anonymous,MajesticShyGreatwhiteshark.webm,1jnhzE8/U9uDnd0qe2Zypg==,US,,1492779883 122145495,122157441,2017-04-21 13:06:40,">>122156457 Okay, I'll give you this: if some super-billionaire with a boner for environmental protection purchased the entire Ganges river and then ruthlessly sued everybody who even thought about polluting it, then that would probably be the ""best"" solution in terms of guaranteeing the pollution stops. BUT.....that basically never happens. More likely it would be purchased by the same companies that currently pollute the river and they would continue polluting it just like they already do. So sure, privatize the river, but it won't accomplish much unless water protection laws are strengthened at the same time.",,Anonymous,44730317.cms.jpg,8uWByf/GbuKOqBlU1+yjpQ==,US,,1492780000 122145495,122157605,2017-04-21 13:08:19,">>122145495 from left to right: Rothbard Ron Paul? Rand Hoppe Friedman Bastiat? Mises Hayek? Is this right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492780099 122145495,122157954,2017-04-21 13:12:06,">>122157605 Yep",,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1492780326 122145495,122158017,2017-04-21 13:12:35,">>122157441 Literally thousands of more economically viable ways to use that river than polluting it until depletion.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492780355 122145495,122158205,2017-04-21 13:14:33,">>122155399 >we can't predict the weather accurately for the next week, how are we going to predict long-term hazards This retarded metaphor might have held some water in the past, but nowadays weather forecasts tend to be pretty damn accurate.",,Anonymous,1492447179128.jpg,COFa2qJF4YObhFlcAwmGSQ==,US,,1492780473 122145495,122158448,2017-04-21 13:16:53,">>122157441 Someone downstream or on the surrounding area would sue them for the damage. You could also gather everyone affected and trigger a class action lawsuit. Why would companies spend billions just to dump shit into it and then potentially get fined a shit ton? They can pollute so much when they can get away with it for free.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492780613 122145495,122158769,2017-04-21 13:19:56,">>122158205 >tend >pretty How accurately do you think we can forecast weather then? Next week? Yeah maybe, 90% Next month? Well, we'll have an idea Next year? Yeah no fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492780796 122145495,122158967,2017-04-21 13:21:51,">>122158017 BTW, the rivers are just the tip of the ice-berg. There is a lot of other shit going on in addition to that. Nope, I'm still not envious of China or India and their conspicuous lack of environmental protection laws. That's not to suggest that there aren't serious environmental problems in the US, as well, but at least we've got some semblance of control.",,Anonymous,29CHINAAIR-web1-master675.jpg,ozFjjVz2t/dQfFoWFi9vpQ==,US,,1492780911 122145495,122159227,2017-04-21 13:24:12,">>122158769 >You can't precisely determine the weather on a specific date in the far future so you can't make any predictions about long-term trends",,Anonymous,1491007571768.jpg,bzq6gX1OXB5qnFgSnY8DWA==,US,,1492781052 122145495,122159538,2017-04-21 13:27:18,">>122145495 >Lolbertarian society >Abolishes armies and police >gets inveded by another country >Runs out of money to pay the mercenaries >Mercenaries also rape and loot your society This would never ever happen in a Statist society",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1492781238 122145495,122159982,2017-04-21 13:31:32,>>122159538,,Anonymous,José_Figueres_Ferrer_1.png,fY+GqGEu6LVnd6LTS5InhQ==,GB,,1492781492 122145495,122160038,2017-04-21 13:32:07,">>122150423 Where is this chart from? I want to take it. I'll post my results.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492781527 122145495,122160133,2017-04-21 13:33:04,">>122159538 >This would never ever happen in a Statist society >he said moments before getting invaded by America",,Anonymous,1472582250562.jpg,cnCEpcpqX6RcwNfNQ9DQTQ==,SI,,1492781584 122145495,122160560,2017-04-21 13:37:00,">>122156447 Because niggers have no respect for the law. I mean that's also why they commit crime. Also why a libertarian state won't work unless there is no niggers because they will constantly vote to steal everyone else's wealth. This is not a super difficult concept.",,Anonymous,member.jpg,qYoz85kOKrKSz5E2UEWsbw==,US,,1492781820 122145495,122160735,2017-04-21 13:38:32,">>122160133 Costa Rica voluntarily disbanded their armies years ago in exchange for guaranteed US protection. Statists win again.",,Anonymous,USS_Saipan_LHA-2_amphibious_assault_ship.jpg,OVNZhKGjSGB2BwIu31SGhg==,US,,1492781912 122145495,122160911,2017-04-21 13:40:02,">>122158967 I agree, purchasing all the land that could generate negative externalities from a river would be absurd use of resources, but there are other externalities that are more feasible, car pollution for example. That's why I believe covenants should tax car usage within them and road tolls should come to agreements with nearby covenants to cover the expenses of said externalities too.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492782002 122145495,122161041,2017-04-21 13:41:10,">>122159982 I have no idea why you'd use this person as an example of ancap. He appears to have been a social democrat.",,Anonymous,cnnnn.png,FCHk9MZ5d6Hi40XqCDymdQ==,US,,1492782070 122145495,122161348,2017-04-21 13:43:57,">>122161041 It was a reference to the civil war which killed thousands.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492782237 122145495,122161627,2017-04-21 13:46:34,,,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1492782394 122145495,122161675,2017-04-21 13:46:58,">>122160735 >statist territory gets disarmed and turned into a vassal state without even firing a shot >statists win Also I was referring more to the middle east not Costa Rica specifically. >Sadam gets put in charge by the US >he's useful until he's not >his soldiers hardly put up a fight >gets btfo",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1492782418 122145495,122161912,2017-04-21 13:49:05,,,Anonymous,A8860825.png,FfCR4o1eHqrzKwd8rDRchw==,GB,,1492782545 122145495,122162703,2017-04-21 13:56:20,">>122161912 >government:taxe more and of he resists you can jail him >company:you must satisfy his demand or he won't buy your shit I wonder why we prefer the latter",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492782980 122145495,122162895,2017-04-21 13:58:00,">>122159982 >Pepe I have mixed feelings about him >>122161041 He was >>122161348 >thousands Kek, my sides = gone >>122160735 Thank you greatest ally",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1492783080 122145495,122163080,2017-04-21 13:59:29,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1492783169 122145495,122163134,2017-04-21 14:00:00,">>122161912 >What? A class of working slaves with no chance for escape nor their children having a escape as they simply don't make enough cash and have to buy food from the company who pays them and rents them out. Just like in current industrialized sweat shops. >Of course I wouldn't be one of them I would be the owner of several chains of businesses, because mine could compete against burger king and the banks, because people never buy the cheaper easier product",,Anonymous,fygj.png,gizRPq3CRNBhhm4PmL99tA==,AU,,1492783200 122145495,122163290,2017-04-21 14:01:21,">>122163080 >Multicuralism >Homosexuality >Communist Nice may may It was literally illegal to be gay in the SU",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1492783281 122145495,122163698,2017-04-21 14:05:12,">>122163134 >If you don't support my retarded ancap ideas then you're a communist THERE IT IS",,Anonymous,2015-12-03-1449150805-4639796-chrischristie_0.jpg,4TpcAF3R+BUcO6Qcve0OIA==,US,,1492783512 122145495,122164060,2017-04-21 14:08:33,">>122163698 >Reading comprehension and relation to image. I'm gonna give you a 1/10 for understanding that. you knew what some of the words were atleast",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492783713 122145495,122164102,2017-04-21 14:08:50,">>122162703 The voluntary aspects of corporations that you enjoy so much are the very reason why they can't adequately replace all government functions. Some aspects of society are involuntary by necessity, and the government is needed to enforce such things. For example, a corporation cannot try somebody for murder because an accused murderer would simply refuse to take part in the trial unless he is forced to, whereas the government can simply force somebody to stand trial if there is enough evidence to justify it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492783730 122145495,122164219,2017-04-21 14:09:57,">>122164060 I was more replying to the image you posted rather than the text that you wrote.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492783797 122145495,122164788,2017-04-21 14:15:09,">>122164219 No my post was in relation to how the dumb commies think they won't be slave labor and they'll be party members. Just like the few muh taxes here think they'll all own a nice little business or farm and live in a nice little community and won't be economic slave labor or simply exploited by someone bigger and tougher.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492784109 122145495,122164790,2017-04-21 14:15:10,">>122145495 > somebody took the time to draw that That ain't regular autism. That's some next level, weapons' grade autism right there.",,Anonymous,asspiedetector.gif,plEO98QCTYJcPQv+KB0RYg==,RO,,1492784110 122145495,122164798,2017-04-21 14:15:16,">>122164060 Oh wait, I get it now, you win this round.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492784116 122145495,122164882,2017-04-21 14:15:55,">>122164788 You win. I concede.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492784155 122145495,122164931,2017-04-21 14:16:20,">>122145914 >>122149041 Are you literally retarded?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492784180 122145495,122165279,2017-04-21 14:19:05,">>122164102 >t.didn't rode the machinery of freedom Private courts CAN work pleb",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492784345 122145495,122165283,2017-04-21 14:19:07,">>122145495 >enjoy economics enough to take it as my bachelors >literally just 3 years of meme math shit and keynesian state worship and zero mention of any other school of thought, let alone austrian actually, there was one mention of austrian economics. they turned mises' works into graphs and algebra don't take economics at university. just read in your own time.",,Anonymous,aaaaaaaaaa.png,UCm4594DFMnfGuiXRhScsw==,GB,,1492784347 122145495,122165455,2017-04-21 14:20:27,">>122152471 agreed",,Anonymous,nozick.jpg,xnCYjxX40UzRg4x/vuPNIQ==,ZA,,1492784427 122145495,122165490,2017-04-21 14:20:45,">>122163290 >Leftist subversion and communism >Leftist subversion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492784445 122145495,122165851,2017-04-21 14:23:29,"Reading this thread only ads more proof to the idea that capitalism is the newest ""great religion"". It has its high priests (bankers, brokers, CEO's) its saints (Smith, Rand, Keynes, Bernays, etc.), its omnipotent, omnipresent, ""undisprovable"" deity (The Invisible Hand), its path to salvation (consumerism, climbing the corporate ladder, chasing the almighty dollar) and so on and so forth. So, capitalists. what sets you apart from other fanatic zealots?",,Anonymous,62c.jpg,fDaVMSv3YXTPDMFQWUiwjA==,RO,,1492784609 122145495,122166106,2017-04-21 14:25:36,">>122161912 there is no contradiction in this image, unless you believe that it's a contradiction that capitalists believe that capitalism is superior to corporatism but corporatism is superior to communism corporatism is a mutation of capitalism in which the state favours certain sectors and certain businesses within or without those sectors. the forces that generate the prosperity and allocate the resources are still fundamentally market forces, given the inefficient constraints implemented by the state",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492784736 122145495,122166218,2017-04-21 14:26:31,">>122165851 banks are not capitalists these institutions are the consequence of the politization of: >currency >finances >monetary system >cash coeficient on deposits >central banking well, you can still call it capitalist >then I'll call you genius",,Anonymous,heh.jpg,ZJLg1cE9lXpcZhdbSaQ2nA==,ES,,1492784791 122145495,122166459,2017-04-21 14:28:26,">>122165279 >Private courts CAN work Most people avoid courts entirely unless they are explicitly forced to attend. Why would I attend any trial that might not have a positive outcome for me UNLESS somebody forces me to go?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492784906 122145495,122166571,2017-04-21 14:29:29,">>122165283 >see pic related The fuck is this heresy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492784969 122145495,122166636,2017-04-21 14:30:03,">>122165851 Reading this thread only ads more proof to the idea that communism is the newest ""great religion"". It has its high priests (dictator of the proletariat, party members, people who are as good as CEOs but aren't employed for the same purpose at lower costs because corporations are too greedy to cut costs and make more profits) its saints (Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, etc.), its omnipotent, omnipresent, ""undisprovable"" deity (Hegelian Dialectic), its path to salvation (rejecting property, reporting anti-revolutionaries to the prosecution department, waiting in bread lines) and so on and so to speak. So, communists. what sets you apart from other fanatic zealots?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492785003 122145495,122166765,2017-04-21 14:31:04,">>122166571 we are learning about the good consequences of monetary expansion on international markets, anon :^)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492785064 122145495,122166941,2017-04-21 14:32:42,">>122164931 >gypsie's man hes not allowed on my property cry more",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492785162 122145495,122167204,2017-04-21 14:35:05,">>122166459 the entreprise on which you work can fire you because you make a bad reputation for them for not joining The court,and like banks when they report a bad credit they would share infos to other entreprise about you so they wouldn't recruit you",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492785305 122145495,122167427,2017-04-21 14:36:57,">>122165851 >Reading this thread >Posts baby's first anti-capitalist mantras Nigger you didn't even read the thread, you are spouting prejudices. There's absolutely no reference to ""invisible hand"" in this thread, all is explained with rooting on human interaction, incentives and business making. This thread has some of the greatest debaters in this board and you come here to post the nonsense that we're zealots.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492785417 122145495,122167534,2017-04-21 14:37:41,">>122167204 Okay, so what if I'm self-employed or I own the business? Business owners get sued pretty frequently IRL which is why corporations exist in the first place, to protect against individual liability. So if a business owner is sued, why would he attend court? Who forces him to go? The answer is nobody. He just ignores the whole thing and keeps doing like it never happened.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492785461 122145495,122167662,2017-04-21 14:38:43,">>122166636 Reading this thread only ads more proof to the idea that fascism is the newest ""great religion"". It has its high priests (Fuhrer, ""Society"", The people who set prices and production quantities and qualities regarding people's totally Private PropertyTM) its saints (Hitler, Mussolini, Mosley, Tojo, etc.), its omnipotent, omnipresent, ""undisprovable"" deity (""Blood""), its path to salvation (Creating an ever shrinking group of individuals capable of being included in the ""chosen race"" , giving ultimate power to a single individual that you approve of because you're too stupid to approve of the right things, being starved if you're not part of the chosen in-group) and so on and so to speak. So, fascists. what sets you apart from other fanatic zealots?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492785523 122145495,122167929,2017-04-21 14:41:04,">>122167534 He can be tried in absence.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492785664 122145495,122167963,2017-04-21 14:41:23,">>122167534 So are you suggesting that becoming an outlaw is a good idea?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492785683 122145495,122167979,2017-04-21 14:41:29,">>122165283 Anon, enlighten me. I really need your input. I've read a moderate amount of material on Austrian school, but I never went into the math of mainstream Economics. I have a simple question. What do you do with all those thousands of pages of equations they show you in university courses on Economics? I know the field must go beyond ""free market beats all, communists abstain, that's all I need to know"", but... I just can't imagine what use those equations could have. Are they useful for anything at all? Or are they perhaps just bullshit memes, like everything ever written about marxist ""economics""? Something in between perhaps?",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1492785689 122145495,122168026,2017-04-21 14:41:49,">>122165851 Banks (and bankers) are the epitome capitalism. They own, through debt or direct ownership, most of the capital in the world, by modern economic rules. Are you trolling or just plain retarded? >>122166636 > NO U nice try, tho. a solid 4/10. What in the fuck made you think I was a commie?",,Anonymous,Dinosaurs_eating_CEO.jpg,kurU4Hx5pNyGs1hZ82jxuw==,RO,,1492785709 122145495,122168787,2017-04-21 14:47:55,">>122167979 This is what happens when Universities become ""free"" and everyone attends, and when professors are cultivated in a ""publish or perish"" environment. You just get loads of contradictory empiricist shit. The costs for the individual are extremely low, the costs for society are high and the benefit for the professors is high. It's in their interests to just pump out low-effort shit for years on end that is just good enough to be consumed for ""free"", that is, fucking garbage. Mises' Human Action and Sowell's Basic Economics combined give you a better understanding of Economics than you'd get out of an Economics degree, in this country at least. It's just meme work for liberal economics professors who can't actually come up with any interesting theories so just look at some graph and repackage chosen variables with cool Greek letters and then run OLS through it to come up with ""proof"" of their work and then spew it into the minds of students in a watering down of what is otherwise just Keynesian print shit please theory.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492786075 122145495,122168968,2017-04-21 14:49:25,">>122167929 Okay, sure. And then he just ignores it. Your ""court"" has no legal authority so why should he even care what you do? As long as his business remains profitable, he can completely ignore you.",,Anonymous,1491605672328.jpg,mph/ssPerxf6S5KrMcFwBg==,US,,1492786165 122145495,122169056,2017-04-21 14:50:04,">>122167427 Well the zealot part was my ""incentive"" to this discussion. > some of the greatest debaters All I see are same ol' jay-pegs memery and larping I see in all right-libertarian threads. If this is your best, I feel sorry for your worst. Hell, even for your run-of-the-mill regular guys... Also, riddle me this: How does one extract infinite growth from a closed system with finite resources?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492786204 122145495,122169140,2017-04-21 14:50:46,">>122168026 The banking sector only has as much influence as it has as it is coupled with the state and is used as a means of currency expansion and stealth taxation. They have neither of these functions in a stateless society or in a society in which the state does not interfere with banking. Capitalism personified is probably a venture capitalist, not a banker, as the venture capitalist is the embodiment of the personal ownership and allocation of capital.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492786246 122145495,122169243,2017-04-21 14:51:35,">>122168968 You take his property as prescribed by the court and enforced by your security agency.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492786295 122145495,122169351,2017-04-21 14:52:36,">>122169056 Riddle me this: Which libertarian has advocated for infinite growth?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492786356 122145495,122169723,2017-04-21 14:55:36,">>122169243 And he continues ignoring every part of that because you can't do anything to him without violating NAP. What you going to do? BTW because he owns his own very successful business his security agency is a lot bigger than yours because he can afford it. If you try to mess with his shit, you're gonna regret it, partner.",,Anonymous,57a08976c3618892638b45b4.jpg,C5yEU6uifAE4Av2rmWlcTg==,US,,1492786536 122145495,122169857,2017-04-21 14:56:43,">>122169056 >How does one extract infinite growth No libertarian advocates for infinite growth, this is a strawman from plinkos and socialists in general which means you didn't need to read this thread to make up your prejudices like you seemed to have pointed out in your post, you already had them before you arrived here. Anyway, tell me, what is more valuable, using silicate to create a pretty paperweight or using 1/65th of that stone for a micro-processor? The amount of resources is inferior, yet the value is much higher. That's what economic growth is, the process where the usage of the same amount of resources yields higher productivity.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492786603 122145495,122170025,2017-04-21 14:58:05,">>122169140 The banking sector always has tremendous influence in currency based trade society, be it proto-, classic or current capitalist. See the Medici bankers and countless others of their ilk. May I also remind you that most central banks are private corporations owned by ""venture capitalists"" and with very little transparency and state control?",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,WgWuR0YwlPhGj6pFjCttPA==,RO,,1492786685 122145495,122170073,2017-04-21 14:58:23,">>122169723 >without violating NAP Come on man, you've been in this thread all day, you can't seriously tell me that by now you have not understood that NAP is not reciprocated to those who don't accept being subjected to it. This is what justifies defense towards aggression like in the case you described.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492786703 122145495,122170079,2017-04-21 14:58:27,">>122169723 You're typing as if you're larping. Why are you assuming that my security agency is smaller than mine? Security agencies are likely huge, they aren't going to do battle over a single court case, the losses of capital and reputation would be fucking ridiculous. The one protecting the man who did not go to court would waver its protection, as is likely to be stipulated in the contract for any security agency. Regardless of if this is a violation of the NAP (which it is likely not, since he broke a contract in order to get rightfully sued), the NAP doesn't affect physical capability.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492786707 122145495,122170359,2017-04-21 15:00:18,">>122145894 >He doesn't want a society where based white and black people kick out the niggers and rednecks. Anyone have thoughts on Tucker Carlson being moved to 8? Maybe more centralist would be more willing to adopt Libertarian beliefs of the noncuck variety.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492786818 122145495,122170396,2017-04-21 15:00:35,">>122170025 Do you really think that the state has little influence on an entity which can only exist when the state has granted it monopoly power? The banking sector would still have strong influence in a stateless society, yes, but people would be free to change currency at will if one currency provider started to work in a shady fashion. I cannot really recall any civilisation that had free banking, only freer banking. The influence of banks definitely increases with their ties to the state apparatus.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492786835 122145495,122170462,2017-04-21 15:01:10,">>122168787 I find that hard to swallow, honestly. Maybe I don't want to believe it. I've seen books on Economics that are literally more than a thousand pages of greek letters with some English interspersed. Those huge books must have some kind of real life application or consequence. As somebody who has gone through those things, would you really say that from an Austrian perspective those hundreds of thousands of equations are absolutely meaningless? I don't want to sound like a smartass by saying ""I don't need to know math to know Economics"", but if that's actually the case it'd be nice to know.",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1492786870 122145495,122170517,2017-04-21 15:01:42,">>122170079 >my security agency is smaller than mine I do hope you forgive this. My argument is null if you point out this typo.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492786902 122145495,122170834,2017-04-21 15:04:21,">>122170079 >Why are you assuming that my security agency is smaller than mine? Because usually when an individual is suing a business, particularly a large successful business, of course the business will have more resources to devote to protection. >>122170073 So basically, everything is vigilantism then. No legal system to maintain order. Whoever has the most money to hire the most security guys wins every time there is a dispute.",,Anonymous,IMG_0266.jpg,S52dDNsrDR37M3OPmWin+Q==,US,,1492787061 122145495,122170838,2017-04-21 15:04:24,">>122170462 That's basically the problem with economists, they aproach the matter without being completely technical, or completely sociological. Therefore the economical theories turn out to be completely irrelevant once the markets change.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1492787064 122145495,122170869,2017-04-21 15:04:42,">>122170462 They generally do have an application, yes, and can be helpful when creating a better or a worse state than would exist without research into economics. They almost all presuppose an omnipotent government which acts for moral purposes as dictated by economics, and the same for the central bank (which they assume must exist, too). I don't know of any macroeconomic work which does not rely on the assumption of a controllable central bank, and as such the field is beyond my interest. It's simply the folly of a few smart men trying to eclipse the combined mundane knowledge of all of the other members of society by deciding monetary policy for them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492787082 122145495,122170935,2017-04-21 15:05:12,">>122170838 >Math is hard therefore it has no value",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492787112 122145495,122171052,2017-04-21 15:06:10,">>122169857 You forget about the technology, extraction costs, manufacture, transport, assembly, trade and sale commissions just to name a few of the extra vvalue-adding, resource consuming cost factors on your little CPU. also, SILICA IS A MINERAL NOT A STONE (it's also a chemical compound) > no libertarian advocates for infinite growth Maybe no regular libertarian, but right-libertarians are pretty tied up in the basic concepts of capitalism, one of which is perpetual growth, to provide ever-increasing profits, to fuel more growth, to... well, you get the point.",,Anonymous,tribeofsuit.jpg,cjqkTzaMVMlO2mFc2vRRoQ==,RO,,1492787170 122145495,122171152,2017-04-21 15:07:01,">>122170869 This idea of a central bank seems to be particularly triggering for some reason. What's wrong with having a central bank?",,Anonymous,o-HOUSE-DEMOCRATS-JANET-YELLEN-facebook.jpg,/4PyIqv27DJysZwEMy7ZPA==,US,,1492787221 122145495,122171323,2017-04-21 15:08:24,">>122170834 More resources to devote to protection, sure, but so what? Rich people spend more money at Tesco than me, doesn't mean that my supermarket is poorer than theirs. You didn't actually refute my other points, by the way. A giant security corporation cannot afford to go to war against another large security corporation because one of its members violated one of their own contracts. To do so would be insane.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492787304 122145495,122171514,2017-04-21 15:10:00,">>122171152 Inefficient allocation of resources and destruction of the ability of the individual to hold his wealth in a form of his choice, that is, a form that cannot be taxed through forcible inflation. >>122171052 >the basic concepts of capitalism, one of which is perpetual growth, to provide ever-increasing profits, to fuel more growth, to... well, you get the point. What? The point is voluntary interaction between individuals.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492787400 122145495,122171581,2017-04-21 15:10:24,">>122170396 The monopoly power was there before the state granted it. Bankers made or broke kings a long time before states were a thing. It's kind of hard to switch currencies when the banker's more or less private army is threatening you. And if that doesen't work, hey, there's still the threat of engineered economic collapse...",,Anonymous,anarcho_capitalist_freedom.png,FGjqVb+8DG5aQfMauzDZAQ==,RO,,1492787424 122145495,122171638,2017-04-21 15:10:54,">>122171323 They don't need to go to ""war"" they just have to stop you from doing anything that would interfere with the business.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492787454 122145495,122171955,2017-04-21 15:13:23,">>122171581 >The monopoly power was there before the state granted it. Saying something doesn't make that true. Central banks didn't exist in every nation worldwide in 1500 and there's a reason why currency was backed by metals and depreciation was very little from 1200-1850. There was never a system of free banking. The idea that a corporation will just get too much money and then kill everyone is silly too. The same can be ""argued"" against any form of social system. There will always be an entity with the most power. What if they just... kill everyone? And then destroy everything?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492787603 122145495,122171972,2017-04-21 15:13:31,">>122170869 Okay, thanks for your input. The hardest thing to understand for me right now is how could that knowledge be useful if it all deals with monetary policy. Once you get rid of the central banks you can shove those equations up your ass for all they're worth. I guess I'll have to at least read an introduction to the field to really know what it's all about.",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1492787611 122145495,122172058,2017-04-21 15:14:13,">>122171514 >The point is voluntary interaction between individuals. But some interactions will inevitably be involuntary. Nobody voluntarily goes to trial unless they are forced to. Any functional society needs a functional legal system, and you simply cannot have that unless you have a way to actually force people to show up and stand trial.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492787653 122145495,122172238,2017-04-21 15:15:42,">>122171638 Which would be extremely costly for my security agency or the courts (whichever works to secure my payment after winning the case). Eventually it would escalate to a massive conflict if the security agency of the sued business decided to ignore its contract with the selected court and instead protect a single one of its customers, wavering its ability to ever act as a security agency in the future as no court will entertain it as an entity and as such it will immediately lose its capital value and all of its stocks will be dumped and investment in the company will become impossible. This is fucking stupid.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492787742 122145495,122172466,2017-04-21 15:17:44,">>122172058 That wasn't a response to you. Regardless, obviously not all actions in a stateless society would be voluntary. Inflicting coercion upon another person by breaking contract or otherwise results in you wavering your preference for just coercion to be inflicted upon you. The NAP doesn't forbid retaliation. Economic incentive forces people to show up for trial. Just like it forces people to make regular shaped loaves of bread instead of loaves of bread which spell out ""i fucking hate niggers""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492787864 122145495,122172647,2017-04-21 15:19:17,">>122171514 When one man controls the resources, access to basic necessities and, pardon the expression, the means of production, the interaction between him and the local workforce is anything but voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492787957 122145495,122173090,2017-04-21 15:22:53,">>122172647 It is though? If you're unhappy with this man and the way he runs his property; you are free to vote with your wallet and/or feet against him",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492788173 122145495,122173096,2017-04-21 15:22:55,">>122171955 I'm not even going to start on the rest of your thread, because you've obviously no idea what you're saying, but > depreciation was very little from 1200-1850 What is the fucking Price Revolution? You. Fucking. Mong.",,Anonymous,someday.jpg,PdXSV+Y/S1+T9+egZYzpFA==,RO,,1492788175 122145495,122173160,2017-04-21 15:23:20,">>122172058 >Nobody voluntarily goes to trial unless they are forced to. You can't withdraw consent. If you consent to subjecting yourself to a court in a certain matter, you can't later say that their sentence goes against your will. If I promise to pay you $100 next month under penalty of getting beat up by men in suits, I can't just not pay and say you have no right to send the men in suits to collect your money. >>122172647 False. Look up what ""voluntary"" means. If I really need to do something to keep living that doesn't mean it's not voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1492788200 122145495,122173253,2017-04-21 15:24:06,">>122172647 We're working under different definitions of voluntary. Mine regards coercion and violation of contract or application of non-consensual ""contract"". Does yours measure necessity to achieve a certain thing, which is ""to live"" when not stated otherwise? As in, if the worker wants to live, it is necessary that he work, and as such it is not voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492788246 122145495,122173367,2017-04-21 15:25:11,">>122145879 Value economical and ethical is not as different as you may think. Reputation means a lot in Ancapistan. >>122145495 Reporting in for CHECK OUT THIS DANK ROMAN IN A SUIT FUCKING BASED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI He's starting a ""based"" legal fund for right-wing fighters along with Kyle Chapman, is redpilled on the JQ, has a better haircut than Spencer and is probably the most /ourguy/ active politician in the U.S. Comes off as more minarchist than ancap, but is militant enough to be liked around here. Yay or nay?",,Anonymous,fully automated helicopter rides.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,SK,,1492788311 122145495,122173476,2017-04-21 15:26:15,">>122173090 How can you vote with your wallet if it's spent on buying food and shelter from your boss? Read up on the coal mines in early XXth century US. That was free market capitalism in action.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492788375 122145495,122173517,2017-04-21 15:26:43,">>122145790 >without war Why? War is a good thing when used for a right cause. It breeds strong men, which is essential if AnCap is to survive. It expands your influence and wealth, and since states inherently violate the NAP, it's justified on moral grounds as well. The tyrants shall bathe in their own blood.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492788403 122145495,122173563,2017-04-21 15:27:05,">>122173096 >This level of inflation amounts to 1–1.5% per year, a relatively low inflation rate for the 20th century standards, but rather high given the monetary policy in place in the 16th century.[1] I'm adjusted to sustained hyperinflation, sorry. Regardless, this was due to an influx of whatever resource the currency was backed by, not an expansion of fiat or banknote. Wouldn't happen under BTC, for example, and even less likely to happen now if the currencies were still metal backed due to us now having commerce and mines situated all over the world, and there's not likely to be a gold rush akin to the finding of a new continent from which we can harvest gold.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492788425 122145495,122173685,2017-04-21 15:28:06,">>122172238 You're right, it is fucking stupid. The current system where we have actual laws and government is much better. >>122172466 >The NAP doesn't forbid retaliation. Okay, sure. If somebody stabs you, stab them back. But what about situations which are more complicated than that? In real-life, it is possible for an individual person to sue a massive corporation like Wal-Mart and WIN if they have a legitimate grievance. It's rare, and it's hella difficult, but it's at least possible. In your theoretical ancap society, that would be completely impossible because Wal-Mart is always going to win because they're security company is going to completely dwarf that of an individual person. >Economic incentive forces people to show up for trial. Nobody who is accused of a crime ever shows up in court because of an ""economic incentive."" They show up because the government tells them, ""show up on this date or else we're sending the police to arrest you and drag you to court.""",,Anonymous,1491833821804.png,xHNLk7Gj1iDhBw8swFAA1Q==,US,,1492788486 122145495,122173740,2017-04-21 15:28:36,">>122173476 Go find another boss or company to work at. One should exist with suitable conditions simply because if it offered such it would be so much easier for it to get workers, and ones that mistreated workers wouldn't be able to compete since anyone with half a brain would move to ones that didn't.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492788516 122145495,122173802,2017-04-21 15:29:03,">>122150362 Holy shit you destroyed this commie Commendable",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492788543 122145495,122173854,2017-04-21 15:29:31,">>122145894 >people who like to be ruled by an authority outside of its property >not cucks Pick one. If your weakness is the main reason you oppose AnCap, I suggest reading a few books, maybe lifting a bit, who knows. Hey - Belgium is a prime contender for AnCapistan, since it's a non-country. But I'll give you this - liberty is indeed a very white matter, and this shouldn't excuse NatSoc - it should rather be embraced by the alt-right movement so that it can finally evolve beyond edgy shitposting into a new, more coherent ideology centered around the white race and what it stands for.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492788571 122145495,122174001,2017-04-21 15:30:52,">>122173476 I can't find anything on that. Can I have a good article? You can vote with your wallet by searching for an alternate job while you work, by the way.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492788652 122145495,122174098,2017-04-21 15:31:48,">>122173854 But anon, you can't have nationalism without socialism! It's in the name even!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492788708 122145495,122174627,2017-04-21 15:36:14,">>122173367 >Value economical and ethical is not as different as you may think. Chattel slavery was perfectly legal until the government passed a law that said ""no more slavery."" Up until that point, slavery was quite profitable. Slave-owners had no economic incentive to free their slaves. Sure many people were against slavery for ethical reasons, but they had very little power to actually do anything about it until the government passed a law that abolished slavery. BTW, if you defend chattel slavery then you automatically lose your right to invoke individual rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492788974 122145495,122174835,2017-04-21 15:38:14,">>122146355 >as conflict evolves, weapons are used >armor is developed as a counter >throughout history, both evolve further and further >the original AnCapistan - Switzerland develops the thing that kills the knight LARPer like pottery",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492789094 122145495,122174863,2017-04-21 15:38:32,">>122146459 It is.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492789112 122145495,122174898,2017-04-21 15:38:54,">>122173685 >But what about situations which are more complicated than that? Like the one I explained to you and then you ignored? >Wal-Mart is always going to win because they're security company is going to completely dwarf that of an individual person. Why? You still haven't explained why Wal-Mart would have a bigger security company. They'd purchase more from a given company, of course, but there's no reason why Wal-Mart's security company would be bigger in total than mine. For example, individuals are pretty tiny, but often buy life insurance. This doesn't mean that life insurance companies are going to be smaller than those bought by people with higher wages, only that the investment and payments into those companies will be larger. Aviva operates in the U.K. with a revenue of about £56 billion, and this revenue is overwhelmingly from individuals who aren't super rich. In a security insurance market, there is no reason to believe that it'd be different. In fact, the same security company could be covering both you and Wal-Mart. The amount that Wal-Mart pays for security would be dwarfed by the total amount paid by consumers.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492789134 122145495,122175175,2017-04-21 15:41:24,">>122147305 Secession is essential to liberty. Different people who cannot coexist should not be forced to try to coexist, but should separate and trade from a distance (or not trade, whatever).",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492789284 122145495,122175325,2017-04-21 15:42:35,">>122174898 >You still haven't explained why Wal-Mart would have a bigger security company Because Wal-Mart is a $230 billion corporation dumbass. Their security team would dwarf almost everybody else's.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492789355 122145495,122175358,2017-04-21 15:42:51,">>122147722 No. You don't get a right to a share of my property. Go get your own.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492789371 122145495,122175367,2017-04-21 15:42:55,">>122170834 >So basically, everything is vigilantism then. No legal system to maintain order. Whoever has the most money to hire the most security guys wins every time there is a dispute. Let's sum up the conditions required for this hypothesis. a) A company has their own security firm which doesn't agree or fulfills with the responsibility to settle conflicts in a peaceful manner through third party arbitration. b) This company is able to out-spend and out-maneuver the rest of security/law firms, being able to withstand war ad infinitum. c) Somehow all the resources wasted in security from this company doesn't affect their sales and ability to control the market, profits keep coming in at a regular rate. d) Somehow the rest of the population is not able to gather enough strength to defeat this company even through militia action. e) Somehow no businessman can see this massive waste of resources from this company and decide to enter the same market while spending 1/100th in security compared to the company of the hypothesis. I would call that quite a stretch. But even if all that was possible, then no state in the world would be able to defeat said company. Congratulations, world fucking domination, but the problem you stated would never be exclusive to anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492789375 122145495,122175516,2017-04-21 15:44:08,">>122147873 There was another one with like 2K each and it was exactly half NatSoc, half libertarian. Try again, cuckoo. Just because Mussolini fucked your grandma doesn't mean you have to follow him to his grave, or rather gas pump station.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492789448 122145495,122175544,2017-04-21 15:44:23,">>122174627 That's just straight up wrong, though. Institutions were in place by which taxpayer money was used to recover runaway slaves and pay peasants to recapture those slaves at cost to society. There was legal code against the freeing of slaves. It was entirely state enforced.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492789463 122145495,122175547,2017-04-21 15:44:25,"Anarchism as a political movement has always been about abolishing coercive hierarchy whether it be social, political or economical. The state and capitalism are the two systems that cause the most harm in our present society. 'Anarcho'-capitalism is not anarchism. It's a regurgitation of feudalism for the modern age. Below in some reccomended reading to introduce to anarchism. >Introduction to Anarchism https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf >The Anarchist FAQ http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA >Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism? http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF >Anarcho-'Capitalism' is impossible. https://c4ss.org/content/4043 >What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen >The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread >Markets not capitalism http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf",,Anonymous,112342354.jpg,nMx9xRMDrew9oFbq+6u2+g==,GB,,1492789465 122145495,122175711,2017-04-21 15:46:01,">>122175325 Do you have ADHD? Why do you just read a single line and then respond as if you've offered a retort to everything that has been said? Economies of scale would make it vastly more profitable for Wal-Mart to outsource their security than to have Wal-Mart brand security that only they use, by the way. Specialisation is a thing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492789561 122145495,122175731,2017-04-21 15:46:10,">>122148269 >eugenics Encouraged by the entire system of AnCapistan, just not under the state's jurisdiction (fucking duh). Really, have you ever read any of these threads? We support banning niggers from your stores if that's what you feel like doing.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492789570 122145495,122175881,2017-04-21 15:47:32,">>122175547 Picking apart word etymology is not an argument. It is more like a mental exercise for children.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492789652 122145495,122176060,2017-04-21 15:49:05,">>122175881 Anarchism has been anti-capitalist since its inception. It was 'an'caps who where messing around with definitions.",,Anonymous,1231234234345.jpg,WWYzSxI+gBszEpsnpUmbBA==,GB,,1492789745 122145495,122176088,2017-04-21 15:49:19,">>122175547 Also, please refrain from ever again posting a ""one company will become so big that he'll just enslave the entire world!"" meme image ""argument"". Nobody cares.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492789759 122145495,122176098,2017-04-21 15:49:26,">>122175547 instead of gish-galloping with a dozen of articles that confirm your bias, why don't you expose them to debate, one by one, see if they are as solid as you think they are?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492789766 122145495,122176144,2017-04-21 15:49:48,">>122174098 wtf i love having half my shit taken away now",,Anonymous,ancap mine.png,VeXoUUG3fuT7g7aPnmwFsQ==,SK,,1492789788 122145495,122176199,2017-04-21 15:50:11,">>122175544 If your dog runs away, the police will send your dog back to you if they find it. Same concept. It was perfectly legal up until the point where the government said that it wasn't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492789811 122145495,122176224,2017-04-21 15:50:25,">>122173563 > comparing inflation to today's standards OK. Whatever you say, Hoss. > not likely to be a gold rush akin to the finding of a new continent from which we can harvest gold Well, people have been eyeing a certain asteroid belt (radiation notwithstanding) laden with rare metals. It's only a matter of time before someone gets to it. Currency is shit. Value should be measured in an index combining labour and supply/demand, But that would need really powerful computing machinery... Wait, we have those! Computers, I think they call'em. Now if only those computers were tied together in some sort of global international network... Hmmm...",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492789825 122145495,122176329,2017-04-21 15:51:20,">>122176060 So? You're still not heeding my advice. Anarcho-capitalism is a word that stuck, and is what the ideology currently known as [banned by commie pinko] currently goes by in common tongue. I'm open to other names. We can call it contractualism or volutaryism if you so desire.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492789880 122145495,122176332,2017-04-21 15:51:21,">>122174627 >slavery Literally a violation of the NAP. Ownership of another person is not a natural right, which is why it's frowned upon. Keep in mind that this is even worse than using POWs, because their kids are enslaved as well.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492789881 122145495,122176389,2017-04-21 15:51:45,">>122176224 >asteroid belt (radiation notwithstanding) laden with rare metals B-but anon, didn't you say resources were finite just a few posts ago? :^)",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492789905 122145495,122176520,2017-04-21 15:53:00,">>122176224 If the currency created by those computers is better than it'd be viable in a market. Sell the idea if libertarianism ever comes around. Currency is a very important aspect of society. I wouldn't expect a pinko to understand that people value things for a reason.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492789980 122145495,122176555,2017-04-21 15:53:24,">>122146092 my fucking sides",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790004 122145495,122176568,2017-04-21 15:53:30,">>122173740 What if that boss has a bunch of good'ol boys with shotguns patrolling the premises, making sure that no bad people get into his mining town *wink wink* It's not like there would be any state to stop him...",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492790010 122145495,122176609,2017-04-21 15:53:47,">>122176520 then*. I'm not retarded, trust me.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492790027 122145495,122176718,2017-04-21 15:54:52,">>122176088 Property owners would have more power in society than the people who work for them. They control the workplace standards and overall standard of living of the people who work for them, just like feudalism. Private property (absentee ownership) also fulfils the Rothbardian criteria for a state.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492790092 122145495,122176732,2017-04-21 15:55:01,">>122174627 Slavery is literally the quintessential violation of the non-agression axiom, retard. As in, the basic foundation of all libertarian thought.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790101 122145495,122177079,2017-04-21 15:58:22,">>122175711 Because if you cannot recognize the massive disparity between a 230 billion dollar company and an average individual, then frankly you have no right to speak about economics in any regard. Wal-Mart's private security will completely dwarf yours by several magnitudes. >>122176332 >Literally a violation of the NAP True, but ancaps usually try to say that violating the NAP is always unprofitable. Well, slavery was profitable, so that kills that theory. Slave-owners were able to violate the NAP and they profited from doing it. The free market was unable to solve this problem. The government had to step in. >>122176732 >Slavery is literally the quintessential violation of the non-agression axiom So why didn't libertarians abolish slavery then? Why did they sit around and wait for the government to do it? If the theory of anarcho-capitalism holds true, then slavery should have disappeared on its own without any government interference.",,Anonymous,1492767584185.jpg,IO1uQCcdlKJORgid+nEKUQ==,US,,1492790302 122145495,122177148,2017-04-21 15:58:57,I'm a market anarchist.,,Anonymous,screencapture-8values-github-io-results-html-1492804678342.png,eJl8KefXU0ozL6dRInegSg==,GB,,1492790337 122145495,122177157,2017-04-21 15:59:01,">>122147483 I saw a poll recently that showed that /pol/ is slightly more libertarian than national socialist",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492790341 122145495,122177310,2017-04-21 16:00:26,">>122177148 Look into mutalism or left-wing market anarchism. Read 'Markets not Capitalism'. Capitalism is antithetical to free markets.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492790426 122145495,122177335,2017-04-21 16:00:40,">>122147483 >>122177157",,Anonymous,IMG_0012.jpg,8d30VFFNZRNkZ3VVfLr3+w==,GB,,1492790440 122145495,122177419,2017-04-21 16:01:22,">>122146459 You Pinochet worshipers are statist. Liberty isn't just the absence of interference, it's also the absence of DEPENDENCE. Is a slave free if his master does not interfere with him? Obviously not, if you talk of free slaves you've dropped the ball. A slave is a slave because he lives at the mercy of the arbitrary will of his master. Arbitrary power is the most dangerous kind of power. It does not even have to be used for it to oppress you. The mere knowledge that you live only at the discretion of someone else is enough to cause you to self-censor. Democratic power is flawed, but it is not arbitrary. You can go and protest Trump outside the white house, would you feel comfortable protesting someone like Pinochet?",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1492790482 122145495,122177440,2017-04-21 16:01:35,">>122177335 Pretty much a tie",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492790495 122145495,122177462,2017-04-21 16:01:47,slaughter of all democrats is the price we pay for civilization,,Anonymous,counter-economics-nekonomics-hans-sadness-anxiety-meaningless-pinochet-hermann-depression-agorism-8888656.png,7s2CYQjeNbA5Nc2lZiTkew==,US,,1492790507 122145495,122177481,2017-04-21 16:01:58,">>122177310 Yeah that book kinda swung me the other way. I just don't like to stick to either side. I hate both state secured privilege and welfare queens",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492790518 122145495,122177491,2017-04-21 16:02:02,>It seems that we have statists to be removed,,Anonymous,Golden Hoppe.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,BR,,1492790522 122145495,122177528,2017-04-21 16:02:20,">>122177079 >Well, slavery was profitable You cannot draw that conclusion without comparison against a non slavery system, in which case you'd realize that slavery wasn't profitable. The government stepped in before society did, but it did so when they felt that they had enough society support. There's absolutely no reason to believe that different forms of leadership wouldn't have gathered just as much strength to fight against slavery.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492790540 122145495,122177554,2017-04-21 16:02:34,">>122177419 eat a dick pinochet is one of best ever",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790554 122145495,122177641,2017-04-21 16:03:16,,,Anonymous,8values.jpg,z2wHQCv7qMmx8jC5xSCX1g==,BR,,1492790596 122145495,122177664,2017-04-21 16:03:30,capitalist productive north ate low output slavery boring south and capitaism ended slavery in usa which was dwarfed by slavery in africa india and english empire etc etc,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790610 122145495,122177760,2017-04-21 16:04:20,">>122177554 Fuck off statist",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1492790660 122145495,122177865,2017-04-21 16:05:11,">>122177419 Yeah I agree. I really hate all these libertarians that like Pinochet unironically. If it's justified to kill imprison folks for their beliefs in YOUR ideal world why is it wrong to imprison you in THEIR ideal world?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492790711 122145495,122177972,2017-04-21 16:06:10,">>122177664 Pretty much this. Slavery wasn't profitable enough to be able to maintain NAP violation without violent revolt and repercussions, Capitalism outmaneuvered slavery and it won.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492790770 122145495,122177977,2017-04-21 16:06:12,">>122177760 is that what people tell you nonstop? u commy statist fag nuke israel!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790772 122145495,122178028,2017-04-21 16:06:36,">>122177079 >he thinks slavery was about profits It wasn't. It was also just as state protected as it was abolished, rendering your point moot. The state solving a problem it created its not an argument in favor of the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790796 122145495,122178035,2017-04-21 16:06:40,">>122177865 because you are a commy fag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790800 122145495,122178102,2017-04-21 16:07:12,"socialism is facism is communism is nazism is democrat free markets and property are freedom and success slaughter all democrats",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790832 122145495,122178122,2017-04-21 16:07:19,">>122174001 Sorry for the wikipedes, but you'll find your way from there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_worker_deaths_in_United_States_labor_disputes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paint_Creek%E2%80%93Cabin_Creek_strike_of_1912",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492790839 122145495,122178181,2017-04-21 16:07:47,">>122177865 Well this argument has a flaw, in that you wouldn't need to imprison folks for their beliefs if they didn't want to force them upon others. I would be okay with other people, with their ideal world, imprisoning me if I wanted to force my ideals upon them.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492790867 122145495,122178187,2017-04-21 16:07:52,">>122177865 I find the helicopter memes funny but they've long gone past the point of being tongue in cheek.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1492790872 122145495,122178229,2017-04-21 16:08:08,">>122177865 >someone wants to dispossess you and your children's children of all property, agency, and humanity >It's wrong to kill these people my laff",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790888 122145495,122178302,2017-04-21 16:08:42,">>122145495 This is mine. >>122178028 >he thinks slavery was about profits The literal definition of chattel slavery implies profit motive.",,Anonymous,cnnnn.png,1o1e0hfbLgkQT48j6OKTIg==,US,,1492790922 122145495,122178314,2017-04-21 16:08:49,">>122178181 You realize this is exactly the same argument communists used to justify imprisoning dissidents?",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1492790929 122145495,122178404,2017-04-21 16:09:38,">>122178302 >The literal definition of chattel slavery implies profit motive. Slavery in the United States was unprofitable versus non slavery for a long time. It was a cultural fixture of hierarchical dominance, and that's why it stayed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492790978 122145495,122178444,2017-04-21 16:09:58,">>122178229 I don't care what they want, I care what they do. You are literally on the same page as SJWs who think hearing views they disagree with is assault.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1492790998 122145495,122178496,2017-04-21 16:10:23,">>122178181 Sure, if a bunch of rogue commies started getting organised to come and take away my property then it is okay to protect yourself and your property. But if a bunch of commies wanna have a commune where they share their shit who am I to tell them not to? >>122178229 I think abortion is morally wrong and I don't want to outlaw it. You can have your own beliefs without forcing them on others.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492791023 122145495,122178528,2017-04-21 16:10:41,">>122178314 How so? I literally stated that, unlike communists, I don't want to force my ideals upon anyone. I wouldn't imprison or throw from a helicopter any communist, just those that wanted to force communism upon those not willing.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492791041 122145495,122178556,2017-04-21 16:10:51,>>122178302,,Anonymous,books.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,BR,,1492791051 122145495,122178557,2017-04-21 16:10:54,">>122176389 Those resources are finite as well, boyo. Also, plenty of resources left in the continental shelves. But that would FUBAR our ecosystem and decimate us (at the very best).",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492791054 122145495,122178613,2017-04-21 16:11:21,">>122177079 No, it is absolutely not always unprofitable. Well, it depends. It can land you a nuke on your yard. That's discouraging enough, eh?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1492791081 122145495,122178627,2017-04-21 16:11:27,">>122178557 The universe is finite?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492791087 122145495,122178689,2017-04-21 16:12:00,">>122178404 The slaves pick cotton, and the cotton was sold for profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492791120 122145495,122178741,2017-04-21 16:12:23,">>122178528 Great. But as far as I know, Pinochet killed commies for having those beliefs not because they were storming a village of peaceful villagers to forcibly spread their property.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492791143 122145495,122178890,2017-04-21 16:13:34,">>122178528 The soviets viewed dissidents as trying to reimpose capitalism and oppress everyone.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1492791214 122145495,122178923,2017-04-21 16:13:50,">>122178689 are you a literal retard? I said that slavery was not more profitable than other forms of labour and you have shown no proof otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492791230 122145495,122179138,2017-04-21 16:15:47,">>122178741 you know what commies with those beliefs do? they start revolutions and take over entire countries, causing millions of deaths. Imagine if Castro could have been defenestrated from a helicopter before he could revolt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492791347 122145495,122179157,2017-04-21 16:15:56,">>122146092 Fucking kek",,Anonymous,1491475405872s.jpg,9hqL8o+mLMPEH8oAliOk4Q==,GB,,1492791356 122145495,122179253,2017-04-21 16:16:39,">>122178741 It was arbitrary. He killed communists, but plenty of people who just got on the wrong side of some government official were murdered aswell. This is the proud libertarian society people here are unironically defending. If you live in such a society, you are not impeded by knowledge of what will happen to you if you break the law, as is the case now, but precisely the fact that you do NOT know. Can people really not see the inherent contradiction with libertarianism here?",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1492791399 122145495,122179395,2017-04-21 16:17:46,">>122179138 A libertarian advocating the concept of thought crime. Wow.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1492791466 122145495,122179404,2017-04-21 16:17:48,">>122145495 your idiot philosophy will not work because niggers and kikes exist. NAP can never work with the bulk of both of those groups. unless you make segregated ethno states then it is basicaly natsoc anyways.",,Anonymous,jfrankfurtschool2.jpg,DAb0sjiRHUh8mlqI6q+7DA==,US,,1492791468 122145495,122179429,2017-04-21 16:17:59,">>122179138 And when they do you have a the right to protect yourself",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492791479 122145495,122179673,2017-04-21 16:19:50,">>122179395 >>122179253 Hey Estonia your're cute, nice flat tax rate. ;)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492791590 122145495,122179696,2017-04-21 16:20:03,">>122178627 Travel outside our solar system is unlikely. Travel outside our galaxy is impossible. So yes, OUR universe is finite.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1492791603 122145495,122179702,2017-04-21 16:20:05,">>122179429 Only proportionally, or else all those ancap ball memes stop being satirical. They kind of already have though, unfortunately.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1492791605 122145495,122179726,2017-04-21 16:20:16,">>122179404 >it's another mouth-breathing stormretard thinks he's adding to the discussion episode",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492791616 122260705,122260705,2017-04-22 06:02:39,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - COMMIES AREN'T REALLY PEOPLE EDITION,Anonymous,Official Badge(2).png,m6aXNTNPJ6Q8UpWbsik8sg==,US,,1492840959 122260705,122260750,2017-04-22 06:03:14,,,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1492840994 122260705,122260809,2017-04-22 06:03:53,,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1492841033 122260705,122260836,2017-04-22 06:04:12,,,Anonymous,Rothbard3.png,Ao8wXVVOFjOX7bswWhQDBA==,US,,1492841052 122260705,122260867,2017-04-22 06:04:37,,,Anonymous,Mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,US,,1492841077 122260705,122260951,2017-04-22 06:05:53,Reminder that only GUN OWNERS are allowed to post in this thread.,,Shiro Poster,1492459074567.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,US,,1492841153 122260705,122261088,2017-04-22 06:07:41,">>122260951 Screw off you can't tell me what to do",,Anonymous,1492396468262.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,US,,1492841261 122260705,122261135,2017-04-22 06:08:21,">>122260951 Pretty based, but our eurofag friends aren't allowed to have plastic knifes without a permit.",,Anonymous,Pepe.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1492841301 122260705,122261136,2017-04-22 06:08:20,">>122260951 Fascist",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492841300 122260705,122261187,2017-04-22 06:09:06,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1492841346 122260705,122261205,2017-04-22 06:09:15,,,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1492841355 122260705,122261226,2017-04-22 06:09:38,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1492841378 122260705,122261550,2017-04-22 06:14:41,">>122260705 >>122261088 >>122260951 Explain yourself, faggot! >>>/lgbt/8152113",,Anonymous,1491193899517.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,BR,,1492841681 122260705,122261906,2017-04-22 06:19:37,">>122261550 Screw off faggot Physically remove yourself",,Anonymous,1492396492581.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,US,,1492841977 122260705,122261932,2017-04-22 06:20:01,"Communism: a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. You see my friends, the communist ideology is one of violent seizure of private property. This is as much of a theft as taxation. If man is to be truely free he must eliminate the state AS WELL as the ideology of communism, and it is justifiable to do so with force. >>122261550 Capitalists are probably tops because they pay the bills. why are you trying to make us fags, brazil? I'm not gonna hang out with you on your gay weed farm.",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1492842001 122260705,122262054,2017-04-22 06:21:42,">>122261088 >>122261136 How do you plan to enforce your NAP without guns? I'll cut you a deal, I'll sell you a Shiro-15™ assault rifle for 20 radishes and 6 of your chickens.* *ammo sold separately",,Shiro Poster,1492473980698.png,BgHlZaATzXitIttISHZX9w==,US,,1492842102 122260705,122262171,2017-04-22 06:23:28,">>122260705 Best ally",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1492842208 122260705,122262356,2017-04-22 06:25:51,">>122262054 I enforce nap with recreational homemade explosives and chlorine gas that can be made in abundace from bleach and ammonia",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492842351 122260705,122262393,2017-04-22 06:26:19,"I want to know if there really is trans and lesbian among us. >>122261906 I'm not a faggot, only a bi guy who despises faggotnees and sissyness. >>122261932 This guy gave that explanation. >>>/lgbt/8153711 I believe all this is more because statists and communists are more submissive and masochistic.",,Anonymous,Golden Hoppe.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,BR,,1492842379 122260705,122262482,2017-04-22 06:27:46,">>122261550 >NatSocs are bottoms kek",,Anonymous,1486887688056.jpg,swtqUMqlUSr5Z8WWQBaSzw==,GB,,1492842466 122260705,122262807,2017-04-22 06:32:19,">>122262356 >recreational explosives Name a price kind sir you have peaked my interest.",,Shiro Poster,1492469719794.png,Cx/lwCE1NdVVc4lUM1Qsew==,US,,1492842739 122260705,122262953,2017-04-22 06:34:23,">>122261136 Black market, practice agorism. >>122262482 Triggered? You're the UK that comes to shill the thread everytime kek.",,Anonymous,2.jpg,YDS5DzaBhUHTrdicJ0RwwQ==,BR,,1492842863 122260705,122263011,2017-04-22 06:35:17,">>122262393 >bi >despises faggotnees non sequitur, just because you may like pussy AND engage in homosexual acts doesn't make you not a faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492842917 122260705,122263035,2017-04-22 06:35:41,">>122262953 I made the website and post here all the time, senpai. It just amused me.",,Anonymous,1485532984043_0.gif,lckqEcAGNUWDtGjxBEwT/w==,GB,,1492842941 122260705,122263156,2017-04-22 06:37:28,">>122263035 sweet site man, thanks for hosting it!",,Anonymous,dude.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,US,,1492843048 122260705,122263275,2017-04-22 06:39:08,"Recent videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP9Aj_7w9y0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmA2MuTJQ4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaukr6lifyI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQwW4DukHlQ and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTSg06H9uhA",,Anonymous,1491527042870.jpg,g5kQ6LLyLP8syvoOVhhC8g==,BR,,1492843148 122260705,122263617,2017-04-22 06:44:21,">>122260951 I live in Australia, can I get a pass?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492843461 122260705,122263680,2017-04-22 06:45:11,">>122263275 >Mr. Dapperton I fucking hate this guy so much. have my top 3 subscriptions: Christopher Cantwell TrueDilTom Libertarian Realist",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1492843511 122260705,122263706,2017-04-22 06:45:32,">>122262807 why just for good potatoes and grain i can supply you with enough explosives to rig the twin towers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492843532 122260705,122263721,2017-04-22 06:45:47,">>122263035 Ok, m8, nice. But I suggest you learn about intellectual property. >>122263011 I do not want to ruin the thread by arguing about it. Here is an example of how not to be an faggot.",,Anonymous,natural law.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,BR,,1492843547 122260705,122263826,2017-04-22 06:47:15,">>122263680 Why do you hate him? He sounds like he knows what hes talking about",,Shiro Poster,,,US,,1492843635 122260705,122264141,2017-04-22 06:51:48,">>122263721 Fair enough. >>122263826 He knows what he's talking about for the most part, but he's just such a sperg-ideologue. I can't stand people who are overly defensive/can't have a laugh about their shit. He's ""done learning"" if you know what i mean. He sticks to the orthodox textbook talking points and can't adapt well. also his voice is annoying and I'm embarrassed to have him represent me.",,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,US,,1492843908 122260705,122264279,2017-04-22 06:53:33,">>122264141 Sounds like an opinion which I can respect. *clutches Shiro-45™*",,Shiro Poster,,,US,,1492844013 122260705,122264346,2017-04-22 06:54:26,">>122261550 >Ancaps and Libertarians are tops and that's why they hate relying on the govt. and prefer to get things done themselves >NatSoc and Commies are bottoms and just want the state to be their daddy and take care of them makes sense to me",,Anonymous,right libertarian futa.png,ceVuu74Mgc2pgYadrhuPFw==,PT,,1492844066 122260705,122264478,2017-04-22 06:56:10,">>122264346 are you my bro who made this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ If so, whats the original song?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492844170 122260705,122264652,2017-04-22 06:58:24,"Reminder that Christians must necessarily be pacifists to be consistent in their beliefs. Reminder that pacifists must necessarily be anarchists to be consistent in their beliefs. Christians must therefore necessarily be libertarian.",,Praceteom,1485767165423.jpg,NStTNl4w9DDeddhjE6EWrQ==,US,,1492844304 122260705,122264662,2017-04-22 06:58:31,">>122264478 It's wasn't me there is more than one Portuguese poster in /lrg/ you know",,Anonymous,Ancap Portugal.jpg,Tv0kuxhoAux++N1hDW85tw==,PT,,1492844311 122260705,122264821,2017-04-22 07:00:27,">>122263680 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg&t=135s >Libertarian Realist I did not know this one. Ty, m8. Some channels AnCap/Agorist/Libertarian br, for lusophones or smart gringos. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-NwgkrLPYmzM-xoLr2GX-Q https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbON19PsKqlrYHSr2qjxHcQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7HSHXNT9PO8TLDG9Fi3HKQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSyG9ph5BJSmPRyzc_eGC4g https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY0v0I-00pjwdN5bzOtZLkA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6IJgpDhXg0JoULOXw74BKg https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb9T91q727Ld4c3lqq3w6Xw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmmF6n4zgfyCJBnAlkY0dwQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgOwKsaqTcRa2tfB5LV-Lqw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-nr9CZ9LglgqMOqSSlzytg https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWU5PdQ9Ec5eZleRm6Qd-Ig https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRZ_8Y6YFg5ikzma8-0BPaw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_08jhZG1YSX3nxMVgQcc5w https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeNkVxVVesYuW4YwtK6f4qw/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLOUrG-aGY0SbvYO5Q3oX1w https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTcrmYTyAFF_NbUlyg8tz_g/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrjwYZtGT0Gacy2VVKy4yIQ/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNyBKz6s_Z0xKRrnYS1Mc6g/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC68m7m_BSw1q4wOZdBgZdlQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC230dIhDaGB7mcCW0Htc-Hg/videos",,Anonymous,books.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,BR,,1492844427 122260705,122264839,2017-04-22 07:00:42,">>122264662 Yeah, there's like 3 so it's a pretty good gamble.",,Anonymous,IMG_20170421_181446.jpg,o0vGqAHesqUnl89+kraZwQ==,US,,1492844442 122260705,122265199,2017-04-22 07:05:28,"To physically remove the comrade cocklovers one must strike them where they are week, free sex changes for the left you are an intolerant facist if you do not #changeforcaitlyn and we convince them to castrated themselves. That is the final solution.",,Gamma,,,US,,1492844728 122260705,122265449,2017-04-22 07:08:35,,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag_1.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1492844915 122260705,122265609,2017-04-22 07:10:51,what's to stop everybody in a libertarian society from not getting dressed in the morning,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492845051 122260705,122265797,2017-04-22 07:13:19,">>122265609 Nothing that's the beauty of it.",,Gamma,,,US,,1492845199 122260705,122265844,2017-04-22 07:14:00,anyone got this pic that has hoppean libertarianism as a 5th stage,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492845240 122260705,122265900,2017-04-22 07:14:39,">>122265844 forgot pic",,Anonymous,4 stages.jpg,Nj8PsifjF1Xx7KpocVfo1g==,US,,1492845279 122260705,122265913,2017-04-22 07:14:47,"Jason Stapleton, the only Libertarian that matters. He has a podcast every day during the week of an hour long. The most interesting this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI7_TVcdyhQ Watch the rest of the videos here: https://www.youtube.com/user/jasonstapletonshow/videos",,Anonymous,jsp.jpg,B+R6Z5Gy6ysKSEylpj98ug==,NL,,1492845287 122260705,122265976,2017-04-22 07:15:27,">>122264346 >>122264478 All love the lusobros and burgers from /Irg/!",,Anonymous,nao-mexa-comigo.jpg,iZvMp11omaLxhZd0O8rw/g==,BR,,1492845327 122260705,122266051,2017-04-22 07:16:24,,,Anonymous,bandeira_de_minas_gerais.jpg,NhzwDV24HggBsgDVnU8iug==,BR,,1492845384 122260705,122266072,2017-04-22 07:16:40,">>122265797 but if everybody is always naked then what's to stop the security company from using its money to freeze the entire globe and then the people who are too bound up in their jobs to buy clothes from another manufacturer because this is banned by job contracts then all freeze to death until you just end up with a state anyway...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492845400 122260705,122266138,2017-04-22 07:17:24,,,Anonymous,56f846d445f700.98913526246759-846492795497095-7462631281573516589-n.jpg,q2kONr+sju+Tt5OsUYT35Q==,BR,,1492845444 122260705,122266320,2017-04-22 07:19:39,"no time for civic nationalism liberals join a real group. white wolves https://discordapp.com/channels/304036593721802764/304037109520400385",,Anonymous,white wolves.png,7EDv+fVROtDZCjICQFiNPA==,US,,1492845579 122260705,122266324,2017-04-22 07:19:44,">>122265609 Not getting paid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492845584 122260705,122266370,2017-04-22 07:20:14,">>122266138 whats to stop somebody copyrighting white people being born so you just end up with a socieyy where all white babies are killed...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492845614 122260705,122266470,2017-04-22 07:21:34,">>122266324 how would payment contracts be enforced if there's no government to provide pens for people to sign the contracts?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492845694 122260705,122266494,2017-04-22 07:21:48,,,Anonymous,1491748008867.jpg,nW43xdyGlRVliCvD3n+yuA==,BR,,1492845708 122260705,122266520,2017-04-22 07:22:07,"join the white wolves AWOOOOOOO stop being a cuck https://discordapp.com/channels/304036593721802764/304037109520400385",,Anonymous,awoos.png,P5F2Q310Sgc3J/lYqHTq/Q==,US,,1492845727 122260705,122266704,2017-04-22 07:24:14,in a libertarian society whats to stop beach owners from burying thousands of people under wet sand on beaches when they're all falling asleep because it's a nice and warm day in the summer,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492845854 122260705,122266769,2017-04-22 07:24:56,have you guys seriously not thought about what if there was just a reason why this all just didnt work at all?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492845896 122260705,122266785,2017-04-22 07:25:06,">>122266494 You are clueless my friend, nice strawman",,D-M-TT,,,HR,,1492845906 122260705,122266863,2017-04-22 07:26:07,">>122266769 what if you get thirsty and you go to get some water from your tap but when you turned the tap on it turned out that there was suddenly a state and now you're paying taxes anyway so libertarianism was worthless?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492845967 122260705,122266976,2017-04-22 07:27:31,">>122266863 what if the law of identity was wrong all along so logic is meaningless and because of that what we have now is probably better or maybe democratic socialism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492846051 122260705,122266984,2017-04-22 07:27:38,,,Anonymous,don't tread on Miia.jpg,46vuZAv/zqMr/PIsNjbyxQ==,PT,,1492846058 122260705,122267013,2017-04-22 07:28:03,,,Anonymous,Don't tread on Miia.png,y9OxDpmDX/4PHH/mEq80fA==,PT,,1492846083 122260705,122267140,2017-04-22 07:29:39,">>122266470 No one will perform labor for you if you have a reputation for not paying up. Also private dispute resolution organizations could be involved as a private arbitrator, that or go to war with the guy that fucked you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492846179 122260705,122267199,2017-04-22 07:30:13,">>122267013 did you know that ayn rand didn't live in an ancap society by the way vote stalin",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492846213 122260705,122267323,2017-04-22 07:31:56,">>122267140 but libertarianism wouldn't work amongst hyenas so what makes you think that it would work amongst any group other than one made up exclusively from eighteen foot tall aryan white asexually reproducing males with an IQ of 1488 or above with degrees in road laying",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492846316 122260705,122267547,2017-04-22 07:34:46,">>122266370 Being a NeetSoc hardly helps the white race... >>122266785 Strawman, kek? Where did it come from, comrade? If you love the state, you can come and argue with people from the thread.",,Anonymous,Bandeira_SP_ancap.jpg,wnozO0ryb+JGZgRylAO/pw==,BR,,1492846486 122260705,122267611,2017-04-22 07:35:34,">>122267323 I'm not a Civic nationalist, white pride world wide brother. You need strong, smart, hemogenius communities regardless of political ideology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492846534 122260705,122267634,2017-04-22 07:35:51,">>122266320 why is this not a honeypot?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492846551 122260705,122267694,2017-04-22 07:36:42,Libertarianism is a cuck ideology for those who value their guns above the nations pride,,Anonymous,Benito_Mussolini_Roman_Salute.jpg,DvZWg/wlmq0fOYWDCkYNKg==,NL,,1492846602 122260705,122267744,2017-04-22 07:37:15,">>122267547 have you considered human nature",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492846635 122260705,122267819,2017-04-22 07:38:15,">>122267323 Thats the thinkg, hoppean libertariism is actually very low key white pride",,Anonymous,Hans on immagrations.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,US,,1492846695 122260705,122267880,2017-04-22 07:39:03,">>122267694 i agree, instead let's take money from those most beneficial to society and give it to people who are useless and would otherwise be outbred",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492846743 122260705,122267929,2017-04-22 07:39:34,">>122267199 >vote stalin *shoots* psst... nothing personnel, comrade...",,Anonymous,Miia takes the shot.png,hfbIZwvXoy1auBkwEnDsAQ==,PT,,1492846774 122260705,122268038,2017-04-22 07:40:52,">>122267694 >national pride if you want daddy government telling you what to do instead of loving your people and simply working towards that i'm afraid you are very blue pilled",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492846852 122260705,122268040,2017-04-22 07:40:53,">>122267929 >*shoots* heh lucky that wasn't a real gun",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492846853 122260705,122268158,2017-04-22 07:42:21,">>122265900 >>122265844 someone pls gib pic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492846941 122260705,122268242,2017-04-22 07:43:23,">>122268158 you're lucky you live in a corporatist society because if you didn't what if somebody made you pay $500000 trillion for that photo and then you died",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492847003 122260705,122268255,2017-04-22 07:43:29,">>122268040 Communists don't deserve to live 2bh",,Anonymous,Join Miia or Die.jpg,ht8MvB2Oje6hEf/mh/dGcg==,PT,,1492847009 122260705,122268500,2017-04-22 07:46:39,">>122268242 lamo nigger like just beg, why buy things like a cuck lamo?",,Anonymous,1492697227518.jpg,FqVbw5p6f4HLypb5o9lMVg==,US,,1492847199 122260705,122268575,2017-04-22 07:47:30,">>122267634 anticom is a honeypot they where started by the oath keepers aka FBI",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492847250 122260705,122268658,2017-04-22 07:48:33,">>122268038 >if you want daddy government telling you what to do what did he mean by this? What kind of skewed view do you have",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492847313 122260705,122268726,2017-04-22 07:49:28,">>122261550 this is some deep shit",,Anonymous,freud.jpg,YW02UUXrZ8AFvNEqa71Hfw==,RU,,1492847368 122260705,122268748,2017-04-22 07:49:43,">>122268255 communist morality dictates that whatever furthers communism is a moral imperative categorically superior to bourgeois morality regarding individual suffering such as murder and theft and the violation of property rights. to kill a communist is to relinquish the bonds of a man with his own private property, specifically his blood and organs. this is furthering communism, and is not only justified, but is a moral imperative under communist morality.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492847383 122260705,122268844,2017-04-22 07:50:51,"anticom has links of old tea party and the oath keepers aka FBI groups like this is a honeypot of informants. on the edge of a sovereign citizen /pol/ LULz",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492847451 122260705,122268859,2017-04-22 07:51:03,">>122268658 well its the idea that you'd need a leader or big power in order for you to live to the fullest, the jew may have told you your entire life that it is like that, but it is not so",,Anonymous,1492690586018.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1492847463 122260705,122268994,2017-04-22 07:52:58,">>122268859 ok FBI are you trying to infiltrate the sovereign citizen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492847578 122260705,122269122,2017-04-22 07:54:45,">>122268748 Communists are a threat to my life, freedom and private property killing a communist is therefore an act of self-defence and is not only the responsible thing to do, but the morally right thing to do",,Anonymous,anti-communist action qt.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1492847685 122260705,122269327,2017-04-22 07:57:22,">>122267694 >Flag >Call the others of cuck Stay trapped in the claws of your beloved nation. >>122267744 The same ""argument"" that neocon monkeys here use. >>122262953 Looks like I was right. >>122268500 >>122268575 >>122268255 >>122260951 Good morning and great Saturday for everyone.",,Anonymous,1491525772125.jpg,R1IDtW3Wp0ITJqEpWLaWww==,BR,,1492847842 122260705,122269332,2017-04-22 07:57:25,">>122269122 >black lips, cyan nails, yellow t-shirt horribly co-ordinated, perhaps a violation of the NAP",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492847845 122260705,122269390,2017-04-22 07:58:08,">>122268994 Gasp you've found my plan to take over the libertarian movement by using my means as a citizen to destroy the govenment and the fed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492847888 122260705,122269473,2017-04-22 07:59:21,">>122269122 more honeypot talk next the FBI will be selling you a bomb to attack antifa with. >>i seen shit like this /pol/ your smarter then this don't fall for this",,Anonymous,bubbles.gif,OdR4tZQrUSKiGCMgCzLiPA==,US,,1492847961 122260705,122269527,2017-04-22 08:00:02,">>122268859 >well its the idea that you'd need a leader or big power in order for you to live to the fullest Humans are pack animals who follow the alpha leader. the strongman is there to lead his people and to create an environment where live can be lived to the fullest. This does not mean to promise riches and other trivialities, but true unity >the jew may have told you your entire life that it is like that, but it is not so Very ironic comment, libertarianism is the jewish religion >>122269327 nice argument hue",,Anonymous,1485269599392.jpg,0pr2c4adUhGyPeCuM6VD1w==,NL,,1492848002 122260705,122269562,2017-04-22 08:00:28,">>122269390 riddle me this, anfag: if there wasn't a fed then how exactly would you liquidate the wealth of over six billion people daily without them even knowing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492848028 122260705,122269569,2017-04-22 08:00:35,">>122269473 Please fbi sell me a bomb, I'm not afraid of talking shit on the internet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492848035 122260705,122269596,2017-04-22 08:01:00,">>122269473 >FBI >implying you have jurisdiction here",,Anonymous,policia de segurança publica.png,lv6oLMttTSKXim+6lp5NRQ==,PT,,1492848060 122260705,122269699,2017-04-22 08:02:14,">>122269527 that entire quote is a strawman btw",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492848134 122260705,122269704,2017-04-22 08:02:21,"Reminder of this gem from yesterday. >>122263721 It's British self-deprecating humour ;^)",,Anonymous,neverforget.png,9k0idhUgrmWGAKqako9vow==,GB,,1492848141 122260705,122269824,2017-04-22 08:03:47,">>122269699 please do explain",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492848227 122260705,122269831,2017-04-22 08:03:50,">>122269569 if you openly talk crazy you don't believe the feds see that and will not infiltrate this is a sign.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492848230 122260705,122270056,2017-04-22 08:06:44,">>122269831 I know the feds see my shit. But I research communism, ancapism, Nazism. And all matter of crazy shit. I'm already marked. I don't care.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492848404 122260705,122270093,2017-04-22 08:07:16,">>122269527 and i acknowledge that rothbard brought his jewish influence by encouraging blackmail and other non moral things as voluntary transactions, i am very well aware of the nature of the jew, however the race does not make a man only influences and if you are aware this cannot hurt you also you must understand that any form of state is inherently a monopolist of violence and power, putting you in a position of submissiveness at all times. also we do acknowledge that natural leaders and power centers exist and will always rise, that is unavoidable as you said humans are tribalist by nature, how big the tribe gets is decided by race entirely if you ask me. i do think that proper nurture can help anyone, especially if you can raise them as a child",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492848436 122260705,122270173,2017-04-22 08:08:21,">>122269824 anarcho-capitalism is founded not on the idea of increasing wealth and productivity of goods and services, but simply that two men interacting voluntarily with each-other are more likely to find terms agreeable to them and directing them towards the ends that they find most satisfactory than will a third party who dictates the terms of contract and goal between these two men. obviously that isn't even part of an explanation as to why it works or why other things do not, but no mention of production or consumption is included.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492848501 122260705,122270188,2017-04-22 08:08:35,">>122269527 >Humans are pack animals who follow the alpha leader. the strongman is there to lead his people and to create an environment where live can be lived to the fullest This is precisely why Libertarianism is the GOAT. People have free will, and nature is the denominator. True equality of opportunity breeds winners, and any system without state involvement achieves this. But by all means, get taxed at 50% so you can prop up some welfare runt who adds nothing to society - statists are the ultimate cucks.",,Anonymous,1491845730301.jpg,loryyDKMeZx40HWKilOZfw==,GB,,1492848515 122260705,122270274,2017-04-22 08:09:38,"I'm interested in libertarianism but I don't like some of the stuff I see like pic related. I hate the idea that instead of conserving the land, it would be used for advertising and industrialisation. Is this accurate or have I misunderstood this ideology?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492848578 122260705,122270297,2017-04-22 08:10:01,">>122270274 forgot picture",,Anonymous,C92xLVHW0AAikca.jpg large.jpg,qTDyrcVI6uvNF4hF6mDNyQ==,GB,,1492848601 122260705,122270314,2017-04-22 08:10:10,">>122270056 i was going to join anticom but it smell'd of feds. they believe they can infiltrate /pol/ or something.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492848610 122260705,122270439,2017-04-22 08:11:52,">>122270274 misunderstood, its the idea that all property owners would be complete owners of their land, not subject to the regulations that exist federally. your pic is just a shitty moron",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492848712 122260705,122270493,2017-04-22 08:12:36,">>122270314 Alright now you got my attention, what do you know about the feds presence here?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492848756 122260705,122270506,2017-04-22 08:12:40,">>122270274 You would use the land as you see fit, or whatever economic purpose you wish to pursue. The same occurs now - you see some farmers owning land next to the motorway and there are advertising boars on their fields (like you example, I guess) - but other times they'll use the land to grow crops. Libertarianism at its core just implies a smaller state.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492848760 122260705,122270518,2017-04-22 08:12:51,">>122270274 Well, if other people believe that land ought to be conserved then it shall be. If they don't, then what reason do you have for believing that your value judgements are worth more than theirs? If yours are truly better, write about it and convince people, rather than attempting to use the state to force moral judgements onto other individuals (assuming it would, for some reason, side with you on such matters). Also, land is better preserved as private property as opposed to public property.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492848771 122260705,122270582,2017-04-22 08:13:46,">>122270506 *boards kek",,Anonymous,1492184315791.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,GB,,1492848826 122260705,122270599,2017-04-22 08:13:59,">>122270439 >>122270506 >>122270518 Interesting, thanks.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492848839 122260705,122270729,2017-04-22 08:15:40,">>122270599 np, we love redpilling statists, bring your friends",,Anonymous,Whynostate.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,US,,1492848940 122260705,122270983,2017-04-22 08:18:23,">>122270493 openly talk about killing commies. openly a civic nationalist. honeypot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492849103 122260705,122271170,2017-04-22 08:21:02,">>122270297 Why does this picture infuriate me so much? These fucks are everywhere on twitter. Always the same - white, male, 30, live in London, LA, or NY, neo-liberal, leftie-liberal, virtue signalling, pseudo-sarcastic, REPLY TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF TRUMPS TWEETS, insist they are never wrong, high-horse sitting, anti-Western peddling, non-issue meddling RUNTS. So what if I use ad-block? I was blessed with my own brain, so I can make my own choice. What a cunt. as you were",,Anonymous,1492207377705.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,GB,,1492849262 122260705,122271171,2017-04-22 08:21:03,"So when did you guys get pushed over the edge from minarchism or libertarianism to anarcho-capitalism? What made you a libertarian in the first place? Hoppe and Molymeme for me, in that order.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492849263 122260705,122271365,2017-04-22 08:23:21,">>122270093 There will always be power indifferences. People who do good in a fascist society will not have to fear being on the recieving end. Also I do not think submissiveness is a good term, you should watch less cartoons >>122270173 This equation between 2 people ignores the ""greater good"" if you will. In a fascist society there is freedom to do whats beneficial to the nation, otherwise the transaction does not make sense in the first place >>122270188 These winners will be the ones in the positions of power, but they only serve themselves. This is a key difference I think >welfare runt >in a fascist society uuuuh anon.... I......",,Anonymous,68747470733a2f2f6a6f696e64696173706f72612e73332e616d617a6f6e6177732e636f6d2f75706c6f6164732f696d616765732f7363616c65645f66756c6c5f64326530346364373561336533613030613232322e6a7067.jpg,m24U0gTgRew2gSRg38+nRg==,NL,,1492849401 122260705,122271545,2017-04-22 08:25:34,"It's like the feds have ethics and they can't go against a civic nationalist idea. >>really gets that walnut a rattle",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492849534 122260705,122271607,2017-04-22 08:26:25,">>122270983 Civic nationalism considered a threat to the feds? Seems pretty bluepilled to me. >>122271171 I was a ""deep and edgy"" ""philosopher"" in my school days, knew nothing of libertarianism but I pretty much preached a highschoolers version of non-aggression and fuck commies and pc people on my own wits. I was born an ancap. It's sperglike and edgy but it's true.",,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1492849585 122260705,122271702,2017-04-22 08:27:28,">>122271365 >In a fascist society there is freedom to do whats beneficial to the nation That's not true, that's only what would ideally be true. What is true that, at best, you get to do what a leader believes benefits the nation, and, at worst, you get to do what the leader believes benefits himself. Provide examples of ""greater good"" that cannot be provided in an anarcho-capitalist society. Would you prefer to live in a settlement that had people who practised and acted in accordance with this ""greater good""? If so, would you be willing to pay more? If so, would this make it more profitable for an individual settlement-planner to select individuals who are crime-ridden and costly to their neighbours or individuals who their neighbours would pay more to live near and around?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492849648 122260705,122271800,2017-04-22 08:28:45,">>122271607 feds have ethics they can't go against a civic nationalist idea hell they are bluepilled i bet they can't tell you abaout race and IQ....",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492849725 122260705,122271881,2017-04-22 08:29:44,">>122270297 Internet is a pull medium, so he'd fuck right off.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1492849784 122260705,122271891,2017-04-22 08:29:50,">>122271365 >These winners will be the ones in the positions of power, but they only serve themselves There is no 'power' (are you a Marxist lel) through voluntary contracts. There is only 'power' when there is a state. Nazis were the first social justice warriors. >The Nazis advocated a welfare state for German citizens (able Germans of Aryan racial descent) as a means to provide social justice and eliminate social barriers between the German people.[2] The Nazis provided equal access to education for talented children of workers and peasants.[3] Hitler claimed that equality of opportunity for all racially sound German males was the meaning of the ""socialism"" of National Socialism.[3] >The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492849790 122260705,122272059,2017-04-22 08:31:53,">>122271365 >submissiveness ain't good that is if you ask me a good term, you are only exploited by power above you not truly helped, isn't that why you wish for a hero type father figure to rise and lead you? >in a facist society you can do good and be exploited you can say the same in your current society if you are the goodest goy in the bunch you can get a good job with good pay, pension and 401k. but once you understand that mandatory taxes affect everyone and laws and regulation only oppress all those but the most power in the society you can understand how you would not be free in this society I recommend you look at Austrian economics, as this is what this philosophy is economically based on",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492849913 122260705,122272080,2017-04-22 08:32:07,">>122271891 >interest-free loans for married couples i thought hitler hated jewish economic theory",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492849927 122260705,122272200,2017-04-22 08:33:33,">>122271171 Everyone on /pol/ likes to tell how they were 'bluepilled' or whatever, but for as long as I can remember I was Libertarian leaning. It was probably when I first read about income tax and the welfare state - so wait, I benefit society when people pay for my goods, so I'm taxed at x% and that money is given to leeches - how is that fair? That's pretty much always been my philosophy. That, and the fact that no man should decide another's destiny. Morally that always seemed fucked up to me.",,Anonymous,1398768573492.jpg,KcMwp5DsDPS2C55OK+tl2Q==,GB,,1492850013 122260705,122272441,2017-04-22 08:36:13,">>122272200 income tax and the welfare state government >>man should decide another's destiny LULz",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492850173 122260705,122272508,2017-04-22 08:37:01,,,Anonymous,file.png,hPKUQXGuD55Py4sAYWfnig==,GB,,1492850221 122260705,122272523,2017-04-22 08:37:10,">>122271800 Ok I misunderstood you, I thought you were saying Civic nationalism was grounds for beinv watched. The feds are cool with saying ""kill commies"" tho?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492850230 122260705,122272630,2017-04-22 08:38:30,">>122272441 shoo shoo Fed shill Have some more Sowell to piss you off.",,Anonymous,1398766206662.jpg,RPGMNiJb9KLowx3QdH8Z1Q==,GB,,1492850310 122260705,122272697,2017-04-22 08:39:12,">>122272508 fucking hell",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492850352 122260705,122272731,2017-04-22 08:39:32,">>122272508 lmao",,Anonymous,C93qqWeW0AADV5a.jpg large.jpg,fV84h5HkN0RYBJJDyW12sw==,GB,,1492850372 122260705,122272749,2017-04-22 08:39:43,">>122272523 it's in there nature not to go against the bluepill idea. i.e vegan non vegan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492850383 122260705,122272835,2017-04-22 08:40:41,">>122272697 >>122272731",,Anonymous,1492774101331.jpg,RgWJawLo/JcQ6GUfKysgPQ==,GB,,1492850441 122260705,122272836,2017-04-22 08:40:41,">>122272630 you must be a nigger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492850441 122260705,122272873,2017-04-22 08:41:08,">>122272731 this may be a performative contradiction, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492850468 122260705,122272993,2017-04-22 08:42:43,">>122272836 No I'm white. When will nupol learn the difference between a black man and a nigger?",,Anonymous,1398766448488.jpg,MFm8z2rYtUOLLS8Q9TZbLQ==,GB,,1492850563 122260705,122273303,2017-04-22 08:46:02,">>122272993 you must be from london how that mayor lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492850762 122260705,122273311,2017-04-22 08:46:09,">>122272508 Reminds me of this classic.",,Anonymous,1492650804337.png,9Y6yx3eARHP7kiqcDWkvQQ==,GB,,1492850769 122260705,122273525,2017-04-22 08:48:29,">>122273303 Him and all Muslims should be given helicopter rides.",,Anonymous,1398764261025.jpg,oRdBCeFmEuvITZ79MQtm4w==,GB,,1492850909 122260705,122273706,2017-04-22 08:50:39,">>122267547 ummm i don't love the state at all, actually i hate anything commie related but your picture is false, at least come up with a better picture",,D-M-TT,,,HR,,1492851039 122260705,122273787,2017-04-22 08:51:36,which anime is most ancap?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492851096 122260705,122273811,2017-04-22 08:51:55,"Libertarianism is the best way, fuck nazis and commies, they are all the same in the end",,D-M-TT,,,HR,,1492851115 122260705,122273824,2017-04-22 08:52:02,">>122273525 well it looks like the bull is riding your mind right now.. LOL",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492851122 122260705,122273845,2017-04-22 08:52:15,">>122273787 >anime what are you, 12 m8?",,D-M-TT,,,HR,,1492851135 122260705,122273870,2017-04-22 08:52:32,">>122260951 STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,414.jpg,a39kzZPlNsz8JU/ZrrZ7gA==,US,,1492851152 122260705,122273955,2017-04-22 08:53:34,>>122273824,,Anonymous,1491849907775.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,GB,,1492851214 122260705,122273993,2017-04-22 08:53:56,">>122273845 lonely",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492851236 122260705,122274075,2017-04-22 08:54:51,">>122260951 amen brother",,Anonymous,96f.jpg,DMfBC15l8XFQCXjd6L1XHQ==,US,,1492851291 122260705,122274361,2017-04-22 08:58:28,,,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1492851508 122260705,122274603,2017-04-22 09:01:19,,,Anonymous,file.png,SbBYuZlnCoSt+hXloSQ/Xg==,GB,,1492851679 122260705,122274978,2017-04-22 09:06:02,,,Anonymous,based_friedman.jpg,CNVYyoJhJJ+t0obYk1fKSQ==,US,,1492851962 122260705,122275045,2017-04-22 09:07:00,Individualism is for fags,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492852020 122260705,122275113,2017-04-22 09:07:57,">>122275045 that is a performative contradiction",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492852077 122260705,122275260,2017-04-22 09:10:17,">>122275045 The alternative is genocide.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492852217 122260705,122275301,2017-04-22 09:11:00,">>122274603 >Diversity >Inclusive Disgusting.",,Anonymous,The_Humane_thing_to_do.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1492852260 122260705,122275378,2017-04-22 09:12:09,">>122275045 Alright, enjoy globalism and multiculturalism, niggerfag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492852329 122260705,122275617,2017-04-22 09:15:26,">>122260705 >Destroy the government >A power vacuum comes into being >New government forms >It's worse than the old one Why can't ancaps provide an answer for this?",,Anonymous,the-thinker.jpg,BDQlwAm9N2NnYV/SOlTD5Q==,US,,1492852526 122260705,122275670,2017-04-22 09:16:12,">>122275617 Here he is",,Anonymous,1440461046238.jpg,zW3oVQo/WIchPVnhUkNq/A==,GB,,1492852572 122260705,122275721,2017-04-22 09:16:55,">>122275617 A sudden shift to full anarchy will probably lead to this shit. It has to be slow and predictable so people can adjust.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492852615 122260705,122275865,2017-04-22 09:19:01,">>122275721 Doesn't matter. Whether it takes 1 day or 1000 years, all you end up with is a power vacuum until the new government forms.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492852741 122260705,122275939,2017-04-22 09:19:55,">>122265609 humidity and wind",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492852795 122260705,122276059,2017-04-22 09:21:18,(((Libertarianism))),,Anonymous,,,US,,1492852878 122260705,122276183,2017-04-22 09:22:52,">>122275865 We're not anti hierarchy. There will be people in positions of power in a utopian ancap private law society. We're not ancoms who want everyone to be powerless. We oppose the state because it is a violent monopoly. Please know what we stand for before you shitpost.",,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1492852972 122260705,122276246,2017-04-22 09:23:45,">>122276059 The only ideology that would solve the JQ by absolving their influence of government and state-sponsored media and academia. >captcha: private pharma",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492853025 122260705,122276268,2017-04-22 09:24:03,>>122276059,,Anonymous,GOYs.png,A+U0uc+5K8sDTutQZm9GLw==,US,,1492853043 122260705,122276292,2017-04-22 09:24:21,">>122276183 >We're not anti hierarchy. Okay then. What stops the people at the top of the hierarchy from simply forming a new government?",,Anonymous,Thinking-Man.jpg,d2vE40l7ZSecVPjwf68aRQ==,US,,1492853061 122260705,122276411,2017-04-22 09:25:56,">>122276059 >>122276268 Also based ""get to the Choppa"" Hoppe, the savior of libertarianism is a goy as well",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME_2_.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1492853156 122260705,122276520,2017-04-22 09:27:19,">>122276246 >>122276268 (((They))) are the founders of this. von Mises, Ayn Rand, Friedman, etc etc Just as it is in (((their))) interest to control the state, they have an interest in ensuring there isn't enough power and unity to stop them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492853239 122260705,122276557,2017-04-22 09:27:53,">>122276292 We're okay with private governance too. Just not coercive monopolies.",,Anonymous,quote_freedom_does_not_mean_that_right_to_do_whatever_we_please_but_rather_to_do_as_we_ought_fulton_j_sheen_94_3_0312.jpg,OZFWkqtBzu2EcOgXEPfaKw==,US,,1492853273 122260705,122276608,2017-04-22 09:28:36,">>122276520 Ok thanks for stopping by.",,Anonymous,Master_Race_0.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1492853316 122260705,122276768,2017-04-22 09:30:35,">>122276520 >they want to control the state >they don't want to control the state The mental gymnastics of Nazis never ceases to amaze me. Remind me again - the holocaust never happened but you want it to happen again?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492853435 122260705,122276793,2017-04-22 09:30:54,">>122276608 >""non aggression"" Are libertarians low T?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492853454 122260705,122276867,2017-04-22 09:31:57,">>122276768 hi the_donald. The answer to your question is jews control both sides. Enjoy your stay at /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492853517 122260705,122276941,2017-04-22 09:33:03,">>122276557 So basically, you support a concept that is identical to contemporary government, but it's okay because you changed the name?",,Anonymous,man-thinking-small-e1415363287342.jpg,8cPeZIQ+EkxWibTRXbRoIw==,US,,1492853583 122260705,122277023,2017-04-22 09:34:04,">>122276793 No, were just more civilized than you ww1 throwback niggers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492853644 122260705,122277128,2017-04-22 09:35:22,">>122276941 It's okay because everyone involved chooses to be involved, rather than being threatened and told to ""up the shekels, goy.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492853722 122260705,122277357,2017-04-22 09:38:06,">>122277128 But how does that work in practical terms? If you still have basically the same laws and government, then from a practical standpoint nothing has actually changed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492853886 122260705,122277538,2017-04-22 09:40:01,">>122260705 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492854001 122260705,122277708,2017-04-22 09:41:51,">>122277357 Because the relation between the ""government"" in this case and the people is subjected to contracts, which adds a layer of stability. Also, this gives room for exploration of alternative government methods and taxations in order to realize the optimal.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492854111 122260705,122278058,2017-04-22 09:45:58,">>122277708 Okay, but that's all just theoretical. In PRACTICAL terms, what does that mean? If you still have laws, government, and taxes, then basically nothing has changed.",,Anonymous,9347d700ec62079b86fe669a50dbb9bf_thinking-man-png-clipart-man-thinking-transparent_361-277.png,4C5wLHMIrOnYND5uH8FxTg==,US,,1492854358 122260705,122278094,2017-04-22 09:46:26,">>122277357 Yes, it's very orderly. The difference is that ""rulers"" or property owners can't simply demand people pay them to uphold the law. They have to provide a desirable service. Think of it as a business. McDonald's doesn't steal from you, but they want your money. So how do they get your money and cooperation? They make a product you want; greasy food. You want borders and police? Good then I, the property owner will maintain those services in exchange for your ""tax money"" or rent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492854386 122260705,122278135,2017-04-22 09:47:00,">>122278058 Yes. What's your issue?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492854420 122260705,122278271,2017-04-22 09:48:33,">>122278094 >The difference is that ""rulers"" or property owners can't simply demand people pay them to uphold the law. Why not? If you're living on my property then why can't I make you pay taxes? >>122278135 I just think that it is kind of pointless to advocate for huge societal changes just to end up right where you started.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492854513 122260705,122278397,2017-04-22 09:49:55,">>122278058 >>122278135 I take that back, 1, it's voluntary 2, property owners have interest in pleasing you so they can profit. It's bad for profit to fuck your citizens. Where in democracy the president doesn't care what you think because his salary doesn't change if you don't want his governance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492854595 122260705,122278479,2017-04-22 09:51:01,">>122278271 If I'm on your property your well within your right to tax me. Or physically remove me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492854661 122260705,122278697,2017-04-22 09:53:31,">>122278397 >Where in democracy the president doesn't care what you think because his salary doesn't change if you don't want his governance. But in a democracy the ruler is completely dependent on getting votes in order to stay in power. If he doesn't do a good job, then he gets voted out. How does a bad ruler get removed in an ancap society?",,Anonymous,1425639762.jpg,5tiYV7RDla204w0/XotOdQ==,US,,1492854811 122260705,122278789,2017-04-22 09:54:28,">>122278479 So....basically.......no different than today?",,Anonymous,1.jpg,VwFAcj0cS8e3sCS5Ai+j5w==,US,,1492854868 122260705,122278937,2017-04-22 09:56:23,">>122276867 Please riddle me with as to how jews control me in a Libertarian society?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492854983 122260705,122279460,2017-04-22 10:01:58,">>122278697 The ""customers"" of that ruler pay someone else to rule. Also democracy a shit because even non productive idiots get to pick a dictator to steal from good productive people. >>122278789 Wew lad, no it's different because because it's volintary",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492855318 122260705,122279516,2017-04-22 10:02:27,">>122278697 But, you see, people are dumb, most people don't grasp the consequences of what they advocate for, many would be in favor of a 20000$ minimum wage/month, many are in favor of filling the country with immigrants. But when you change democracy for economically motivated migration, as Hoppe and AnCaps want, then all of the sudden, people who vote for a 20000$ minimum wage go live there where there isn't, and people who love immigrants go live where everyone is white. Self interest is often betrayed by democracy, but it never is betrayed by market choice.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492855347 122260705,122279769,2017-04-22 10:05:00,">>122279516 >Self interest is often betrayed by democracy, but it never is betrayed by market choice. Nice snippet. Based Malta does it again.",,Anonymous,1491774328231.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,GB,,1492855500 122260705,122279857,2017-04-22 10:05:50,">>122279516 But in a libertarian society, how would you keep immigrants out? You can't have any kind of border patrol agency or ICE to carry out deportations, and if companies are free to hire whomever they want then they're likely to hire immigrants because they're willing to work for lower wages.",,Anonymous,thinking-face.png,mhv6gLwd3GH0/CivBtm8Dw==,US,,1492855550 122260705,122280151,2017-04-22 10:08:55,">>122260705 Dudes are we have something like a traditional and a progressive core? I would think so by the difference between Libtards and Ancaps as i understand it, as an Ancap i go full reeeetard on the NAP to make the point and don´t care about how it would work to bring the red pill on the state and he libtards argue more the line of wouldn't it be great if our master just hits use some times. I really are into the argument and would say you can´t argue for the NAP if you are a Voter without being a hypocrite and there i would make the difference. I see Ancap to politic like atheism to religion, the point is its fundamental wrong and stupid to belief in the authority of the state like to belief in the authority of some dude in the clouds. If you do something amazing stupid like this you don´t have to wonder when lots of people die.",,Anonymous,ancap1.png,GdSEudkZqv/6HZVYjFcTDA==,DE,,1492855735 122260705,122280211,2017-04-22 10:09:37,">>122279857 No one has a right to your property, if you don't want shitskins around remove them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492855777 122260705,122280278,2017-04-22 10:10:13,">>122279857 After careful thought of what would entail once anarcho capitalism is installed, you can figure out that private cities would be the most logical conclusion. These private cities would keep immigrants out if they decided to, or do extreme vetting, as many would be interested in purchasing property there where immigration is somewhat controlled. Again, it's all exploration, if vetting immigration is the most optimal choice it will show, and people will ""vote with their feet"" flocking to those prosperous areas, even if they ""disagree"" with the way those areas are run.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492855813 122260705,122280306,2017-04-22 10:10:32,">>122261136 Egalitarianism is true equality. Us libertarians must embrace it. Without true equality (no feminist or blm bullshit) there can literally only be discrimination. You're goin too extreme",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492855832 122260705,122280365,2017-04-22 10:11:13,">>122280211 Why would I remove somebody who is working for me?",,Anonymous,industry-thought-leader-032614.jpg,L5TQNvr7YSwi/Ufu2pB4JQ==,US,,1492855873 122260705,122280444,2017-04-22 10:12:06,Are all libertarians ancaps ideally?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492855926 122260705,122280462,2017-04-22 10:12:21,">>122280278 You can't vet immigration in a libertarian society. I have the right to hire whomever I want without government interference.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492855941 122260705,122280698,2017-04-22 10:14:39,">>122280462 You forgot your thinking picture friend",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492856079 122260705,122280869,2017-04-22 10:16:28,">>122264478 I made it. The song is called Resonance by Home and is playing at 80% speed",,Anonymous,15306530_227067644399169_4745206497141587968_n.jpg,yI2enwpBYPko9DNan1ZOhA==,PT,,1492856188 122260705,122280960,2017-04-22 10:17:19,">>122280462 I just told you that the most logical conclusion of anarcho-capitalism is the construction of private cities. Companies will be subjected to these private cities rules by contract. You want to hire Somali pirates? You will have to settle your company in a city that allows so. Chances are that city will be a shithole with no decent security, so enjoy!",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492856239 122260705,122281025,2017-04-22 10:18:00,">>122280444 You can't ignore my trips fuckers, someone answer me.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492856280 122260705,122281042,2017-04-22 10:18:10,">>122265844 Netherlands bro did a better image, you should look in the archives.",,Anonymous,1466958977925.png,kiyb9JLRMDKMdJSJxEgV3w==,PT,,1492856290 122260705,122281191,2017-04-22 10:19:43,">>122280365 Then keep em, i dont give a fuck. Just don't let those niggers on my property or I'll removed them myself and you'll be down some low skilled workers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492856383 122260705,122281267,2017-04-22 10:20:28,">>122280960 Okay, but companies will still be able to hire whomever they want in a libertarian society. If you want to put restrictions on who companies can and can't hire, then that's obviously not libertarian.",,Anonymous,CriticalThinking_300.jpg,cogZXoUhwCcw0fAsmnT5dA==,US,,1492856428 122260705,122281277,2017-04-22 10:20:37,">>122280444 I can't speak for all of us, but yeah. Ancap is the logical endgame of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492856437 122260705,122281415,2017-04-22 10:22:01,,,Anonymous,muh benefits.jpg,MOKE5m0VEBmcaOPS8RE6Rg==,US,,1492856521 122260705,122281419,2017-04-22 10:22:05,">>122281191 That doesn't sound any different than today. You have the ability to ""remove"" people who are trespassing on your property today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492856525 122260705,122281454,2017-04-22 10:22:29,,,Anonymous,assassins creed truth.png,DGner2Hpts7l5Frj4DfYJw==,US,,1492856549 122260705,122281490,2017-04-22 10:22:48,">>122281267 >If you want There again you fail to understand voluntary contracts between individuals. They can do as they please.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492856568 122260705,122281535,2017-04-22 10:23:12,,,Anonymous,IQ map.png,T/LxCg6ibHwzfj2sxcm88w==,US,,1492856592 122260705,122281545,2017-04-22 10:23:22,">>122281277 >Ancap >Logical It's completely riddled with logical fallacies. You claim to be libertarian but at the same time you want to dictate who I can and can't hire.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492856602 122260705,122281595,2017-04-22 10:23:54,,,Anonymous,slavery.jpg,p5M6av1cG2CPFW3QmZAAtw==,US,,1492856634 122260705,122281664,2017-04-22 10:24:33,,,Anonymous,deb3b80c232dbd3fd428b0e651a09e43.jpg,e/44KzsHUJvjNhjfJHPfSg==,US,,1492856673 122260705,122281695,2017-04-22 10:24:51,,,Anonymous,11406276_10155799571990360_4132018133430363692_o.jpg,XUdBLYH+kXxBlzFwnsc1ZA==,US,,1492856691 122260705,122281706,2017-04-22 10:24:57,">>122281267 >If you want to put restrictions on who companies can and can't hire, then that's obviously not libertarian. If I'm the owner of a company and you want to open a franchise, and my rules are you cannot hire mexicans because a mexican killed my sister, do you think that's not compatible with libertarianism? The case I'm describing is exactly the same. I purchased some land, and I will sell you the right to use and transfer it in exchange for you to sign a certain set of provisions that will guarantee my property retains its value. That's how private cities would function. The right of discrimination is core in libertarian beliefs.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492856697 122260705,122281823,2017-04-22 10:26:16,,,Anonymous,1458007535008.jpg,2fc1swNlb4OeIMauzOFiRg==,US,,1492856776 122260705,122281931,2017-04-22 10:27:25,">>122281706 A business owner will make decisions that maximize profit, and it doesn't make any sense to discriminate along racial lines if your goal is to maximize profit. Sure, some smaller businesses will decide to discriminate like that but most will not, simply because it would be unprofitable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492856845 122260705,122281966,2017-04-22 10:27:48,,,Anonymous,hegel.png,PDC12BRUkQlukamYBaVvRg==,US,,1492856868 122260705,122282037,2017-04-22 10:28:20,">>122281545 >You claim to be libertarian but at the same time you want to dictate who I can and can't hire. Are you just trolling at this point or do you just not understand the ideology? No one dictates to you what you can and can't do, that's the whole point. You can do as you please. You create a contract (I won't hire x or y, or I will hire x or y).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492856900 122260705,122282044,2017-04-22 10:28:23,,,Anonymous,Alexander-Trachtenberg-Quote-1944.png,5+MZjBQeu+3JKW9SWm8iNg==,US,,1492856903 122260705,122282113,2017-04-22 10:29:02,">>122282044 holy shit i just noticed my file name (((trachtenberg)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492856942 122260705,122282156,2017-04-22 10:29:34,,,Anonymous,1490045768239.jpg,Pzgizy4H4pOtNobe2WZCug==,US,,1492856974 122260705,122282230,2017-04-22 10:30:26,">>122282037 >No one dictates to you what you can and can't do, that's the whole point. Then why do you keep saying that you want to keep immigrants out? I have the right to hire immigrants if I want to. If they're doing the same job for less money, then why wouldn't I hire them? Free movement of labor, bitch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492857026 122260705,122282393,2017-04-22 10:32:10,">>122282230 Then I wouldn't work with you and you wouldn't be a part of the city. By all means, go live in your multicultural shithole city. See pic.",,Anonymous,lrg on commie land.png,dTVfmj44uH8Be7imHJPYTw==,GB,,1492857130 122260705,122282395,2017-04-22 10:32:11,"does anyone else think ethno enforcement would be unnecessary in the free market? would whites and high iq's naturally come together and push out subspecies? i can only imagine if there was no welfare, shaneeqa and her 8 niglets would just get genocided (rightfully).",,Anonymous,1490604760533.png,eROfvzY7tiF/3r91SbQ8Mg==,US,,1492857131 122260705,122282493,2017-04-22 10:33:00,"I'd like to recognize the great job that Britbro did with ""our"" website. And amazing we already have a Ralph Raico reading list. Keep the memes going lads!",,Anonymous,1460533907936.png,tHJqUHeVs6DwFqnh9RcY+w==,PT,,1492857180 122260705,122282575,2017-04-22 10:33:46,">>122281931 >A business owner will make decisions that maximize profit Indeed >and it doesn't make any sense to discriminate along racial lines if your goal is to maximize profit Then how come houses in nuclear-white neighborhoods are more profitable? >Sure, some smaller businesses will decide to discriminate like that but most will not, simply because it would be unprofitable. We're talking about private cities, not just any business. All it takes is one businessman creating an ""only-whites"" city in his land. Are you claiming nobody would be interested in settling there? I'm not claiming all the private cities would vet immigration, I'm claiming some would, and if that formula proves to be more successful than others, it will be imitated.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492857226 122260705,122282674,2017-04-22 10:34:47,">>122282393 >I wouldn't work with you You aren't needed. Thanks to open borders, I have a nearly unlimited supply of cheap labor that I can hire.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492857287 122260705,122282775,2017-04-22 10:35:48,">>122260705 I mean I hate commies as much as the next guy but where is all the hate for nazis? like they're literally equally as retarded",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492857348 122260705,122282817,2017-04-22 10:36:16,">>122282395 Most likely unnecessary, as happened in the US before 1965. Perhaps today it would take a few generations until normalcy was restored because the people who have been brainwashed by public education would still go around and cry ""racism!"" at property owners who discriminated against savages because e of self interest but once parents and private tutors replaced the state in education cultural normalcy and the natural hierarchical structure of society would flourish again.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492857376 122260705,122282893,2017-04-22 10:37:01,">>122282575 >All it takes is one businessman creating an ""only-whites"" city in his land. Why would he do that? He'd be undermining his own profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492857421 122260705,122283088,2017-04-22 10:38:56,">>122282893 Value is subjective, ape. One might prefer lower material living standards and a higher distance from someone else rather than higher material living standards and a closer distance.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492857536 122260705,122283122,2017-04-22 10:39:18,"ok i will pick topics and you guys show me how a ancap Unstate would solve it : Roads Cartels Crime sentences Prisions Unable workers (both fisically and mentally unable people) pro tip : you cant.",,Anonymous,9736a18828756141ad8099a1abc56584fac2788e7dea7f83b8287b8315b72516_1.jpg,T/q5j8VQQQhSUfS8R2e/mA==,BR,,1492857558 122260705,122283208,2017-04-22 10:40:08,">>122282674 Cheap labor is a minimal factor when deciding where to settle your company. If this wasn't true, then Denmark wouldn't have a single company. If you just want cheap factor you would just relocate your factories, since salaries are always lower in third world countries. What business want is security, minimum taxation and regulations.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492857608 122260705,122283228,2017-04-22 10:40:18,">>122283088 Profit isn't subjective. If this man is limiting his customer base, then his profits will be quite limited as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492857618 122260705,122283238,2017-04-22 10:40:24,">>122282493 Covenant Community? What is that - witchcraft?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492857624 122260705,122283325,2017-04-22 10:41:22,">>122282493 Ayy thanks man. It is a bit basic but any suggestions welcome. I think a meme section is needed. >>122282775 Commies are probably worse - Nazis are like our retarded cousin. Their end goal is often the same (prosperous, free, proud, homogeneous nation) but their method is fucked, and they slip further and further down the path to National Socialism and Jew bashing that Libertarianism becomes the default polar opposite (>muh Ayn Rand). But mainly because the commies have tried to take over Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,1491854586990.jpg,1s3FPAifERSdVjv6vJXCLA==,GB,,1492857682 122260705,122283355,2017-04-22 10:41:37,">>122282817 >but once parents and private tutors replaced the state in education cultural normalcy and the natural hierarchical structure of society would flourish again. Good point. Public education has a lot to do with our current problems. Its so fucking awful the near almost literal cuckold shit we read in school. I remember in history class we would watch movies near graduation to fill time, and I suggested Aaron Russo's Freedom to Fascism and my principle and history teacher laughed and said no... Into the helicopter!",,Anonymous,benjamin-franklin-when-the-people-find-they-can-vote-themselves-money-that-will-herald-the-end-of-the-republic.jpg,+eLcC2LwnnFANDfPRSjIkg==,US,,1492857697 122260705,122283388,2017-04-22 10:42:00,">>122283208 You're right, companies want minimal regulations usually. So why on Earth would they choose to settle in a city that restrictions their ability to make hiring decisions?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492857720 122260705,122283463,2017-04-22 10:42:46,">>122283228 Theory of the firm is literally econ101. It is not all about profit, far from it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492857766 122260705,122283563,2017-04-22 10:43:51,">>122283228 If white ethnostates are truly better to live in and raise higher property values then he couldn't care less about limiting his tenants to members of the white race. Why would he want non-whites on his property, even if they vastly outnumbered whites, if the value of the property to him would diminish? Also, why do you find it hard to believe that there wouldn't be more than enough customers who'd wish to live in a white only country? I bet there's more than 10 million Europeans out there who'd move to one immediately.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492857831 122260705,122283709,2017-04-22 10:45:17,,,Anonymous,1491338878957.png,fG3gX6UOTGHFwl74QLEoQA==,US,,1492857917 122260705,122283756,2017-04-22 10:45:40,">>122283563 I'm not saying that NOBODY would discriminate. I'm saying the vast majority would not, simply because it would be unprofitable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492857940 122260705,122283761,2017-04-22 10:45:44,">>122282893 Supply and demand, a lower supply of some product (white only communities) with a high demand would lead to higher profit margins. If there's a demand for white only communities and nobody is supplying that, then that's called market opportunity. >>122283388 Because these restrictions are reasonable and come along with a package of good security, high wealth environment and stable contractual terms. Again, if you believe cities with free migration would see higher success than those vetting, then that's your interpretation, I'd be willing to test it out.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492857944 122260705,122283768,2017-04-22 10:45:46,,,Anonymous,sovereign.jpg,9Tnf4cJk/BQjdrudl8o5QQ==,US,,1492857946 122260705,122283796,2017-04-22 10:46:03,">>122283709 Worst IPO ever.",,Anonymous,inflation5.png,V+ufTHhywTA13wbHSVY4Yw==,GB,,1492857963 122260705,122283810,2017-04-22 10:46:11,I awake again guys. Good morning to all!,,Shiro Poster,80b003a8bea4fa24e95999213f454fbd.png,gLADqL6k+iTpWZkhP0VPvQ==,US,,1492857971 122260705,122284031,2017-04-22 10:48:07,>>122283796,,Anonymous,FUCKK.gif,vnJKUY1UZcMiOoh23tZxXg==,US,,1492858087 122260705,122284154,2017-04-22 10:49:14,">>122283563 >I bet there's more than 10 million Europeans out there who'd move to one immediately. This concept really fascinates me. Increasingly we're seeing moves against the neo-liberal globalist agenda of free movement - see Trump, Brexit, etc. ALL academics, economists, politicans, experts, and so on continually state what a 'disaster' it is to 'turn back the clock'. I'd love, purely from a case-study point of view, to see a European ethno-state, or a Le Pen like character straight up halt immigration. It would be fascinating to see if the policy would be a success or failure (I would bet on the former).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492858154 122260705,122284181,2017-04-22 10:49:28,">>122283756 What is unprofitable is settling companies in ghettos where most people have little to lose. Youre claiming companies would have incentives to settle there where precarious salaries could be given, the problem with this is that these people need to live near the company, these people have no resources to pay for security, these people have no resources to pay for infrastructure because the low wages they're being paid, so, given that we have eliminated socialism, these areas would be terrible for settling company.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492858168 122260705,122284189,2017-04-22 10:49:33,,,Anonymous,price of goods.png,tq1mDmBSLQYEBP9Lyv1jvA==,US,,1492858173 122260705,122284330,2017-04-22 10:50:52,">>122283810 can i kindly ask you to pls post no furry trash in libertarian threads",,Anonymous,1487005130670.jpg,RPULBeCnFxSXKGtB7DYwmA==,US,,1492858252 122260705,122284414,2017-04-22 10:51:38,>>122284189,,Anonymous,1492720233749.png,sWcPZlDeWhESDNDDlJnHAA==,GB,,1492858298 122260705,122284415,2017-04-22 10:51:39,">>122283761 You're not refuting anything that I've said. Yep, it's entirely possible that you'd have a few smaller businesses that would want to discriminate, but the vast majority would not, simply because it would be unprofitable for them to do so. In case you haven't noticed, most large corporations IRL are very supportive of open borders legistlation......",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492858299 122260705,122284530,2017-04-22 10:52:45,">>122260705 case in point Noodle Boy",,Anonymous,Retarded Noodle.jpg,x1ns+s689dH1THxMtNa/Sg==,US,,1492858365 122260705,122284737,2017-04-22 10:54:40,">>122284154 >I'd love, purely from a case-study point of view, to see a European ethno-state, or a Le Pen like character straight up halt immigration. That sort of thing would be completely impossible in an ancap society. Libertarianism means open borders, no matter how hard you try to deny it. As long as companies are free to import cheap labor, they're gonna keep doing it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492858480 122260705,122284796,2017-04-22 10:55:12,">>122284330 Are you giving me orders bud? Sounds alot like a threat to me? *unholsters McGlock™* It would be a shame if my NAP was violated right about now.",,Shiro Poster,1490947054441.png,/6qVfP5oOKJtyXvb9PhDvQ==,US,,1492858512 122260705,122284978,2017-04-22 10:56:56,">>122260705 >libertarian >RIGHT make up your mind, retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492858616 122260705,122284982,2017-04-22 10:56:59,">>122260951 currently in my possession: WASR-10 M44 Mosin Nagant M1895 Nagant Revolver CZ vz. 82 H&R Bay State No. 6 20 ga single shot poorfag arsenal general",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492858619 122260705,122285044,2017-04-22 10:57:30,">>122284415 Currently rich people, through taxes, are forced to pay for poor neighborhoods to be policed, the police presence in rich areas is minimal even though they are paying for it. In the case I'm describing, this changes, rich areas are well protected because people would hire polices for themselves, not for everyone, and poor areas would not be as safe, meaning companies wouldn't have incentives to settle there where security is not as present.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492858650 122260705,122285122,2017-04-22 10:58:10,">>122284737 >be a Libertarian Minarchist >Government's only role is to protect citizens, provide an army, judicial court of law, and border enforcement >Stop immigration We're not all ancaps. And as to trying to start the same argument with me as you have done with Malta-anon, he has consistently shown you how private cities would exist, but you evidently have no interest in what he has to say, and you instead insist on finding loopholes (which he always answers) in his small paragraphs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492858690 122260705,122285130,2017-04-22 10:58:14,">>122283122 false. The free market would demand these things. Example 1: Roads Company A requires roads to ship goods from point X to point Z. Company B recognizes this need, builds roads, creates payment system such as tolls. Example 2: Cartels What the fuck are you talking about? Crime? If so.. Companies that are negatively affected by the cartels put bids out to militia companies to apprehend criminals. Example 3: Crime sentences You aren't using complete sentences, why should criminals? No but really, criminal sentences are a current meta not a necessity for a civilization. Example 4: Prisons Expensive boxes to keep the shit skins Libertarianism, as I understand it, doesn't mean complete deconstruction of local governments, you can have basic simple shit like jails but keeping garbage subhumans in boxes and feeding them is expensive, pointless and a screwed up industry in and of itself. Example 5: Unable workers Philanthropic organizations will organically form because, despite your marxist beliefs, some people care about shit like this and will not only start organizations like this but other people will help fund organizations like this. Plus a deconstruction of the liberal bullshit state will allow for people to act more naturally like families and will take care of their own or is that just white families.. either way",,Anonymous,altbias.jpg,/0peIhJnC85XgMwHJ1OR9g==,US,,1492858694 122260705,122285223,2017-04-22 10:59:04,>>122284978,,Anonymous,1462045543933.jpg,g91qe9wvp1mLs2uSb0ve/A==,US,,1492858744 122260705,122285310,2017-04-22 11:00:01,">>122283756 I agree with that. I've said on other threads that most discrimination would be not against certain groups but against individual behavior like vandals, looters, known criminals and delinquents. The vast majority I bet would not object to kick out people like that. But of course you'd also have other, more specialized and focused types of discrimination, not based on criminality or property diminishing behavior but on human traits and characteristics, one of which is race.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492858801 122260705,122285430,2017-04-22 11:01:09,">>122284982 Currently in my collection. >16 inch PSA premium build >20 inch PSA freedom build >Maverick 88 >Springfield XD9 >Springfield 1911 Mil-Spec >Glock 19 >M&P Shield 9",,Shiro Poster,1487459643122.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1492858869 122260705,122285469,2017-04-22 11:01:29,">>122260705 http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf",,Anonymous,no step on snek.jpg,5KAmKSccuOQgQB1oZ2Bh2Q==,DE,,1492858889 122260705,122285627,2017-04-22 11:02:55,">>122284982 >>122285430 >tfw some statist would arrest you for possession of those firearms in my country",,Anonymous,1422583917869.png,5lm94Xgo2jJ+rSVciw/Utg==,GB,,1492858975 122260705,122285802,2017-04-22 11:04:31,">>122285627 You britbongs need to execute every royal family member and put the wealth in your nations bank, and just implement our constitution.",,Anonymous,1486337958283.png,UlUAt0yfkEgcFQPJDSNpYQ==,US,,1492859071 122260705,122286138,2017-04-22 11:07:44,">>122285802 Our Monarchy has no parliamentary or constitutional power. They are merely for pomp, circumstance, and tradition. I say they stay. >the wealth in your nations bank Easy, you're sounding like a commie.",,Anonymous,1425849957377.png,NCrJVXGzqZncKoOECIj22Q==,GB,,1492859264 122260705,122286449,2017-04-22 11:10:31,">>122285130 this makes sense. pro: tip you did it",,Anonymous,masterrace.png,N9i3KpEKwxf4XcG7t92ILw==,BR,,1492859431 122260705,122287003,2017-04-22 11:15:43,">>122286138 That's not how the power differential works. The royals hold direct control over your and mine monetary systems through ownership in the Federal Reserve. They also use blackmail such as: pedophilia, murder, torture, etc. This is how power works. Hidden Nobility (with occult knowledge) -> Rome -> Vatican -> Public Nobility -> Proxy Government -> Monetary control -> Order Followers -> Scholars -> Goyim And on the note of nations bank with all royal wealth, where the fuck else you gonna put it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492859743 122260705,122287490,2017-04-22 11:20:05,">>122287003 >The royals hold direct control over your and mine monetary systems through ownership in the Federal Reserve I don't think our royals control your Fed. Either way, fuck the Fed, it needs to be ended. The royals wealth is theirs to do with as they please, like anyone else's. Why should I take it, merely for gracing them with my presence?",,Anonymous,qe.png,4yZE5JkAk4S1kh6ofif+jQ==,GB,,1492860005 122260705,122287517,2017-04-22 11:20:19,"About companies incentives towards bringing in immigrants with precarious wages. Extending the idea: As I explain in >>122285044 poor areas would be terribly policed and have awful infrastructures in general, due to elimination of socialism. Therefore, you would need to convince immigrants to leave everything behind to come live in McShithole TM. This is not a ""come here for welfare, free healthcare, free infrastructures, highly policed environment"", if you want to bring in people to be poor, they will know that they are going to be really poor, not Europe-welfare-but everything on a silver platter poor. Someone could say nothing stops them from going to live in nice communities, well, their wages do, since according to some, business would bring them for cheap labor. This condemns them to live in poor areas. Since this company is interested in bringing in these people to work for them, they must locate the factory/company within a private city that allows immigrants to come in or simply temporary passes for workers, obviously, it is the interest of this company that this area is well policed and has great infrastructures, so they can't be in the same city as the people they're trying to import. In the end, they're not only coming to be poor as rats, they'd also be coming to spend half of their salary and time in transportation towards a secure city. At that point, you realize that companies will have an easier time just moving the factories to a third world country or simply hiring locals and paying decent wages.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492860019 122260705,122288978,2017-04-22 11:34:16,Post more snakes,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492860856 122260705,122289310,2017-04-22 11:37:32,"Pleb here. I haven't learnt any economics formally but am interested in self learning. Is there any reason though why I should except Austrian econ over neoclassical? Why do so many mainstream economists reject Austrian economics?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492861052 122260705,122290133,2017-04-22 11:45:35,">>122289310 The main differences are routed in rationality and the use of mathematics. Most mainstream economists these days are an amalgamation of Monetarists and Keynesians (muh DSGE).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492861535 122260705,122290153,2017-04-22 11:45:49,">>122289310 Because Austrian economics advocates for minimum intervention, which means most economists would be out of a job. Hayek explains it in the fatal conceit, most economists are pretty much affected by Dunnin-Kruger effect, believing that they can ""manipulate"" the economy to behave better than any decentralized free market would.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492861549 122260705,122290379,2017-04-22 11:47:55,>>122288978,,Anonymous,1491859248745.jpg,C3yffL6nH+UJSX8Ly9JZzw==,GB,,1492861675 122260705,122291339,2017-04-22 11:56:31,">>122289310 To add: I studied Economics at University. Every school of thought is worth studying, they all have relevant and empirically true theories, and I do believe that there is no one answer. Don't box yourself in by just learning x or y, learn the basics of all, expand on that, then draw your own conclusions.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492862191 122260705,122292708,2017-04-22 12:07:37,"Had some shit to do >>122271702 The ancap society doesnt care about history or about the future after he has died. Your analogy is very confusing, its a culture and history that connects people, not an exchange of money. >>122271891 There is always power, this is human nature. Also mussolini used this money to build infrastructure and literally drain the swamp. I dont see how taking care of your own people is a problem, as long as you keep your country homogeneous which they did. Also unemployment was low",,Anonymous,futurism.jpg,Ch2Xj75MEETWIlNdjEYhaw==,NL,,1492862857 122260705,122293272,2017-04-22 12:12:24,">>122285122 All my arguments are geared specifically towards ancaps. You are free to go, sorry for the confusion. >>122287517 Sorry, but it still just doesn't add up. The ONLY way to keep immigrants out is to have a nationalist government that intentionally keeps them out. Leaving it up to the free market just doesn't work, because companies WILL import cheap labor if they are legally allowed to do so.",,Anonymous,John Kelly.jpg,cSOtRVfK+qI253G5FfPUUw==,US,,1492863144 122260705,122293279,2017-04-22 12:12:28,">>122267819 This seems similar to what Breitbart's John Carney said about the ""Libertarian's Case For Donald Trump's Buy American Order"" >It is altogether possible that one may prefer lower living standards in favor of a more humane distribution of wealth or a government procurement policy that recycles dollars taxed and borrowed back into the domestic economy. Is this similar to what Hoppe is saying, or is this Marxism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492863148 122260705,122293639,2017-04-22 12:15:19,">>122292708 >Also mussolini used this money to build infrastructure and literally drain the swamp For every altruistic leader there is a selfish one. If you were an Ethiopian in 1936 the chances are Mussolini wasn't taking care of you. Pic related is what happens when you aren't under such 'altruistic' leadership. The idea that a leader with power will always look after their nation is to deny most of human history. >Also unemployment was low You're implying that unemployment can't be low under a Libertarian society, which is wrong, so that's not an argument.",,Anonymous,file.png,2zEXvVcc8XrX5zYaCboZWw==,GB,,1492863319 122260705,122293690,2017-04-22 12:15:43,">>122291339 >every school of thought Nigger, please. Political economy ( marxism, neo-keynesianism, welfare systems...), is not about economics. Non-free market orientated economics is junk science invented by intelectualls on government´s payroll with the only purpose of keeping the state machine up. Economic science tries to understand how human interactions evolve in a free-market environment. If you hamper the free-market with government regulations you are destroying the very essence of the economic science.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1492863343 122260705,122293698,2017-04-22 12:15:46,">>122293279 Kek no. See pic rested. Trump is just being a moron on this one.",,Anonymous,1479526935629.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1492863346 122260705,122293793,2017-04-22 12:16:33,">>122293272 There's no minimum wage, why import people that would cost more for you to bus/fly niggers in",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492863393 122260705,122294048,2017-04-22 12:18:42,">>122293793 >why import people that would cost more for you to bus/fly niggers in I wouldn't import Africans, I would import shitloads of Chinese though. They're bred to obey authority from birth so they're the perfect workers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492863522 122260705,122294130,2017-04-22 12:19:27,">>122293690 I'm talking about specific things such as theories of migration or fiscal multipliers. It's worth knowing and understanding, if not at the very least to know your enemy, and be able to understand and develop a better argument than them. Its not good spending all your time studying Austrian economics, only for an intellectual from the central bank to drop a New-Keynsian General Equilibrium model onto you to explain how them tinkering with the base rate will filter through to output.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492863567 122260705,122294630,2017-04-22 12:23:55,">>122294048 If they are good workers they'd probably leave you for someone who pays more. And then you would have spent all your money on importing someone else's workers. You could do it, but it doesn't make good buisness sense. Just hire the white people you don't need to bus in or spend more money to teach English",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492863835 122260705,122294732,2017-04-22 12:24:48,"The Statist, a look- >I can't tell Jacob no, so I'll get the government to ban fast food and video games for me. >I can't make proper dietary choices, so I'll get the government to regulate salt(sodium chloride), sugar(sucrose), and fat(chains of saturated fatty acids) for me. >I get scared of black things and loud noises, so I'll get the government to ban guns. >I can't stop at a traffic signal, so I'll get the government to put up cameras. >I can't get out of this chair, so I'll just get the government to give me money, food, and housing. >I can't do anything at all, but for some reason, I'm going to continue to live and become a burden on society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492863888 122260705,122295186,2017-04-22 12:29:04,">>122289310 Because muh econometrics shit. Mainstream economists dont understand difference between mathematization and modelization. You can use only language to explain your economic model and then contrast it with another economic models using numbers and statistics.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1492864144 122260705,122295391,2017-04-22 12:30:54,"After seeing the condition of the anticommunist discord i'm forever disillusioned with libertarians how the fuck did the left infiltrate right-libertarianism? Because it was not explicitly Hoppean. Disgusting. Fucking moving farther and farther right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492864254 122260705,122295950,2017-04-22 12:36:45,">>122294630 If they're good workers, then yes, other companies would also hire them. It's not like there is some shortage of Chinese people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492864605 122260705,122296596,2017-04-22 12:42:57,">>122293272 It's not legal, polis are private companies, the site itself it's private property, the land it's private owned and subjects to the contract for the use of it. You can keep whoever you want out, but to humor your point, if white only communities are such a good idea, it will be implemented succesfully.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1492864977 122260705,122297338,2017-04-22 12:49:36,">>122296596 You're basically advocating for city-states. That's fine, but can we skip the nonsense of inserting the word ""private"" in just for the sake of having it there. The system you're describing is called ""city-states"" and it was practiced in Ancient Greece in places like Athens and Sparta.",,Anonymous,s4dTtBy.jpg,rvHGDaxbyOUhhuLyq76EiQ==,US,,1492865376 122260705,122298041,2017-04-22 12:56:07,">>122295950 >>122296596 >>122297338 There is an important distinction to be made in the word private. the owner of the land has incentive to raise property values which would be contrary to the importation of invaders and degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492865767 122260705,122298128,2017-04-22 12:56:59,">>122295950 Right, and instead paying to bring them in I'd just wait for you to do it and offer hire wages than you. It's not worth it on your part. If you really need gook workers just put your factory where they already are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492865819 122260705,122298228,2017-04-22 12:57:53,">>122298041 How is that any different than a king being in charge of a city-state?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492865873 122260705,122298662,2017-04-22 13:02:14,"Ancap only works in a ""society of philosophers"", just like communism. Minarchism is the closest we can get in the real world. I really appreciate the conviction of my ancap brothers, but I want to actually achieve my ends to prove to the world why statism doesn't work.",,Anonymous,IMG_2141.jpg,vMOvNnQfmYK4JW/MUSbwZg==,US,,1492866134 122260705,122298975,2017-04-22 13:05:02,">>122298128 My point is that if there are no restrictions on movement for labor, then you're going to see a great deal of migration from poor areas to rich areas by people trying to find work. I won't need to actually ""import"" Chinese people. People who want jobs will come looking for them, and companies looking for workers will hire them. Sure, some companies will discriminate on the basis of race, but most will not, simply because it wouldn't be profitable. In a libertarian society, companies would have the freedom to discriminate, but most would not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492866302 122260705,122299071,2017-04-22 13:05:56,">>122298662 I agree with you to a point, if I was made Fuhrer I'd def transition to a minarchist state. But the end goal would become ansnekistan. Only possible after the commies are purged.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492866356 122260705,122299391,2017-04-22 13:08:40,">>122298228 Contracts are explicitly defined. City states are the realistic allusion to Hoppean covenant communities although they are broken down further to households",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492866520 122260705,122299667,2017-04-22 13:11:04,Bump for freedom.,,Anonymous,eve online.png,xrXmVjteJIePEL4mzUgNcA==,US,,1492866664 122260705,122299772,2017-04-22 13:12:03,">>122298975 >it wouldnt be profitable this doesnt hold up when you as property owner must undertake all liabilities of imported labor. you will lose more value then you could produce.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492866723 122260705,122300131,2017-04-22 13:15:04,">>122298975 There are restrictions, these people have to pass through other people's property. Made to pay tolls or to outright fuck off. Either way I doubt racially aware people would find themselves living amount smelly immigrants if they don't want to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492866904 122260705,122300238,2017-04-22 13:16:00,"NEW! >>122300175 Bump with sneks.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492866960 122260705,122300257,2017-04-22 13:16:08,">>122299772 >as property owner must undertake all liabilities of imported labor If somebody isn't a good employee, then the business owner will fire them, simply as that. In a libertarian society, there would be few, if any, restrictions on a business owner's ability to fire employees that are failing to live up to expectations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492866968 122300175,122300175,2017-04-22 13:15:30,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Where does the food come from edition,Anonymous,lrg.png,gDufIhnrTPvFopd/nSis/g==,GB,,1492866930 122300175,122300308,2017-04-22 13:16:36,">>122300175 Is anyone excited for Trump's tax plan? Biggest tax cut in history!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492866996 122300175,122300532,2017-04-22 13:18:26,">>122300175 >>122299772 >as property owner must undertake all liabilities of imported labor If somebody isn't a good employee, then the business owner will fire them, simply as that. In a libertarian society, there would be few, if any, restrictions on a business owner's ability to fire employees that are failing to live up to expectations. Also, notice I said ""libertarian"" and not ""ancap"" because I don't think ancap is even possible to begin with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492867106 122300175,122300961,2017-04-22 13:21:58,">>122300175 Also are you guys against or for pic related?",,Anonymous,h1b.png,Wz6nxea7eophn2C0Cz3Hrg==,US,,1492867318 122300175,122301476,2017-04-22 13:25:59,">>122300961 As a paleo-con, I fully support it. Trump is the best president we've had in a long time, even if I don't agree with him on every issue.",,Anonymous,Donald Trump.jpg,SftsZJYSgtWU7ZGQgG/ARA==,US,,1492867559 122300175,122302522,2017-04-22 13:34:43,">>122300532 ALL liabilities their housing, their food, their family if it comes etc. the costs start to rack up. property owners must take it all. costs rack up, and they arent socialized like in democracy. They are real and felt by property owners. firing and hiring may become an ordeal if you arent sure about the labor you import. libertarianism lost its meaning to me, its just a slush of nonsense and incompatible beliefs. What i am describing is anarcho capitalism, and it looks alot like the city states you mentioned",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492868083 122300175,122302593,2017-04-22 13:35:18,"Communists and Marxist are a clear and present threat to liberty, life and property killing and suppressing them is our moral responsibility in the battle against leftist tyranny there can be no mercy",,Anonymous,anti-communist.jpg,l0ANS8XkUQvWoXS4j5qoXA==,PT,,1492868118 122300175,122302997,2017-04-22 13:38:23,">>122302522 >their housing, their food, their family if it comes etc. the costs start to rack up. That's their problem. >property owners must take it all. Um.....no? Why would a business owner be responsible for paying an employee who has already been fired? >its just a slush of nonsense and incompatible beliefs That's basically how I see Ancapism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492868303 122300175,122303440,2017-04-22 13:42:00,">>122300175 >Guys look at how edgy I am! We libertarians hate those commies too, they are fags, and we're cool dudes just like you fascists! Physical removal guys! These forced meme threads remind me of someone trying to fit in with the cool kids at school, they're pathetic. AnCap will never work, and all the other libertarianisms are weak and provide no protection against corporatocracy, degeneracy and the downfall of society. >>122302593 Funny, what happened to the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492868520 122300175,122303748,2017-04-22 13:44:40,">>122302997 All property is owned. They wont be able to import labor if the labor cannot rent or buy first. Property owners must take up all liabilities beforehand. this includes restitution for the community if property values drop as per contract, if the hiring of invitation of the labor was the cause. Have you read into Hoppe? Its solid foundation for ancaps and will clear up any misunderstanding caused by subversion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492868680 122300175,122303797,2017-04-22 13:45:05,">>122303440 You've managed to use every fallacy going. Please carefully ready the /pol/ sticky image then return to the thread with some arguments.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492868705 122300175,122304237,2017-04-22 13:48:42,">>122303797 Your thread provided no arguments in the first place, nice try though. Then again, you paraphrased your favourite jewtuber so I'm truly BTFO.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492868922 122300175,122304262,2017-04-22 13:48:54,">>122303440 >everything you wrote already refuted literally low information",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492868934 122300175,122304401,2017-04-22 13:49:57,">>122304262 Your entire ideology has already been refuted. Get the fuck off /pol/. https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492868997 122300175,122304517,2017-04-22 13:50:57,">>122303440 You sound frustrated, consider drinking a cup of tea and calming down",,Anonymous,1264015.jpg,n3e8jiwawRp5t+c2XFLPqQ==,FI,,1492869057 122300175,122304527,2017-04-22 13:51:04,">>122304237 your right this thread is fucking garbo-tier on info",,Anonymous,1481387820057.png,nlOd0aD96iDkbfLfHX4/lA==,US,,1492869064 122300175,122304789,2017-04-22 13:53:07,">>122304527 >If you don't agree with me you're an animal Really makes me think, what a well reasoned argument. Next.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492869187 122300175,122304947,2017-04-22 13:54:26,">>122303440 the last time a private corporation had a private army and bussiness worldwide was centuries ago and it was due to state's legislation towards maritime trading, which resulted in a monopoly makes you stink",,Anonymous,1492683030627.png,80xRBMsW1u3vQqnuh+a/4g==,ES,,1492869266 122300175,122305089,2017-04-22 13:55:33,">>122304401 low info, im sure you read from there ahmed. hey guess what im posting on /pol/ still pic for you, fucking degenerate",,Anonymous,1481387744584.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,US,,1492869333 122300175,122305203,2017-04-22 13:56:34,">>122304947 Why are you bringing up private armies? Are you a schizoid?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492869394 122300175,122305288,2017-04-22 13:57:18,">>122303440 >Forced meme Forced meme is a forced meme to suppress organic and dank memes. >Funny, what happened to the NAP? The commies violated it. So we will retaliate.",,Anonymous,C6LCK_QWgAAFQQW.jpg,mSEHJZEWR0omFsW2nJ1cUg==,US,,1492869438 122300175,122305597,2017-04-22 13:59:46,">>122303748 >Property owners must take up all liabilities beforehand. This is completely stupid. If somebody gets fired, a business owner is not required to provide anything for that person after that point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492869586 122300175,122305847,2017-04-22 14:02:01,">all those people claiming that Trump's victory means we live in the best timeline Funny, Last time i checked I still dont get redirected to Ron Paul when i search '45th president of the USA'",,Anonymous,8644.jpg,qiUZV88RqGDR4f8DmU4nNQ==,CZ,,1492869721 122300175,122305906,2017-04-22 14:02:38,">>122305597 Its not stupid and yes the buisness owner is not required to provide anything for that person AFTER. I dont understand what you dont get. Lets try it this way: How will the buisness/land owner invite foreign labor?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492869758 122300175,122305975,2017-04-22 14:03:10,">>122302593 Amen brother.",,Anonymous,1492545077821.jpg,YH3eyKVQQX0I5hAW2kfU/w==,PT,,1492869790 122300175,122306246,2017-04-22 14:05:21,">>122305906 >How will the buisness/land owner invite foreign labor? They don't need to. People who want jobs will come looking for jobs, and employers will hire them if they have openings. And without border controls, there is nothing to stop people from poor countries from migrating to rich countries to find jobs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492869921 122300175,122306444,2017-04-22 14:07:17,">>122302593 Reminder that Anti-Communist action is run by furries, pony fuckers, and degenerates. There is no tolerance for advocates of alternative lifestyles in the covenant whos purpose is protecting family and kin Do not let leftists in",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492870037 122300175,122306530,2017-04-22 14:08:01,">>122306246 >And without border controls, there is nothing to stop people from poor countries from migrating to rich countries to find jobs. Without border controls enemy cultures invade at will. Destruction of borders is a very old Marxist and libtard goal. Ideals are for children. Do what is useful for your own advantage. Life is war. Open borders are utter, abject surrender.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492870081 122300175,122306743,2017-04-22 14:09:50,">>122306530 >Open borders are utter, abject surrender. Pretty much. This is exactly why ancap is a stupid idea, because any kind of anarchist society would have open borders by default.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492870190 122300175,122306821,2017-04-22 14:10:27,">>122305089 Nice, you posted an excerpt from a book you probably haven't read. I can tell you barely understand the excerpt because it doesn't provide an argument - just a commentary. >>122305288 The spamming of green Rothbard, Hoppe, Hayek, Von Mises figures against AnCap backgrounds is a forced meme. It isn't funny, it's an attempt to subvert /pol/ and a pathetic and blatant bid at making the popular symbol Pepe a figurehead of anarcho-capitalism which it never was or will be. The thought process behind all this libertarian and ancap spam is that you will supplant fascism, nazism, and white nationalism on this board as the dominant ideology, because, like all humans you have a desire to fit in and be part of the hegemonic group. Unfortunately for you, you will fail. I look forward to hiding the hourly libertarian thread spam over the forthcoming weeks.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492870227 122300175,122306832,2017-04-22 14:10:32,">>122306246 >without border controls ok thats the issue If you lived in a nigger-tier slum would you leave you door open? Would you not keep firearms, security, and insurance in case someone attempts to steal your valuables or harm your family?",,Anonymous,1481387783458.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,US,,1492870232 122300175,122307075,2017-04-22 14:12:49,">>122306821 >It isn't funny, it's an attempt to subvert /pol/ and a pathetic and blatant bid at making the popular symbol Pepe a figurehead of anarcho-capitalism which it never was or will be.",,Anonymous,1421168729378.gif,ncLcX0TiF9LVcB7J/K2LJA==,GB,,1492870369 122300175,122307202,2017-04-22 14:13:50,">>122307075 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492870430 122300175,122307229,2017-04-22 14:13:59,"Why can't fascists and libertarians just get along? We need to unite against the leftists, especially Marxist kikes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492870439 122300175,122307375,2017-04-22 14:15:28,">>122306832 Without border controls there will be a lot more slums. Yeah, individual people can and should protect themselves. But the national government should also work to prevent the country from being overrun.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492870528 122300175,122307449,2017-04-22 14:16:14,">>122307202 Not arguing, I'm laughing at you.",,Anonymous,14343532523234.jpg,J6UwBrUluhEwoUwPcbaagA==,GB,,1492870574 122300175,122307516,2017-04-22 14:16:53,>>122307449,,Anonymous,1461193048599.jpg,+A9OfYjFZoaljQ49rBWy3g==,GB,,1492870613 122300175,122307566,2017-04-22 14:17:24,">>122306821 > making the popular symbol Pepe a figurehead of anarcho-capitalism which it never was or will be You're right, Matt #SavePepe",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492870644 122300175,122307725,2017-04-22 14:18:48,">>122306821 this board has had libertarians as long as it had nazism. you should know this, since most people here had started as libertarians and moved over toward white nationalism. besides from projection strawman, ad hominem, and general delusion, nice argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492870728 122300175,122308274,2017-04-22 14:23:48,">>122306821 Stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself. The level of butthurt in your posts is cringe. Heil Rothbard, Heil Hoppe.",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1492871028 122300175,122308578,2017-04-22 14:26:27,">>122307375 Stop assuming for just a moment what I am proposing is what you have heard from meme ball threads and left libertarian circlejerks. People are individuals yes, but they have families which they will sacrifice for, and the family will sacrifice for their community etc. Community still exists even if libertarians wish that collectivism didn't. Communities will form borders strong where risk is high and low between friendly communities that are attempting to raise property value. People want to live where its safe, and increasing property values by employing the most effective border control possible, who by being invested in the actual community is more effective than a government hijacked by democracy. Fascism is a realistic alternative I would not mind, except for the issue of contract/private property law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492871187 122300175,122308788,2017-04-22 14:28:18,Anyone else /cryptolibertarian/ here?,,Anonymous,ethereum.png,Q1QScmAwjxHa3DCALfJOuA==,US,,1492871298 122300175,122309029,2017-04-22 14:30:20,">>122308788 Hehe, funny you should say that. My LTC bags from back when it was $4 are finally gonna pay off, lel. I own BTC, ETH, ETC and some other shitty coins like PPC from back in the day. You?",,Anonymous,file.png,eIi/cyGidDrGBj+ShcCk7w==,GB,,1492871420 122300175,122309104,2017-04-22 14:31:00,In a hoppean society who is the authority that decides who is an undesirable,,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,8dkMe+YEWmwkXWvZ3RGiCA==,NL,,1492871460 122300175,122309289,2017-04-22 14:32:29,">>122309029 Holding BTC, XMR, and ETH at the moment. I'm also gambling with small coins like MILO, LEPEN, BITB, and POSW. I'd like to eventually dump all my money into REP, but I think it's overvalued at the moment. If only the Gnosis ICO wasn't so terribly set up I'd be in.",,Anonymous,Milocoin3.jpg,BWSYMUjjDzYKZylnfRcDMg==,US,,1492871549 122300175,122309311,2017-04-22 14:32:41,">>122309104 The property owners.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492871561 122300175,122309524,2017-04-22 14:34:26,">>122309311 But an undesirable can own property",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492871666 122300175,122309571,2017-04-22 14:34:46,">>122309104 the market and all the people participating. Then there is enforcement by private security and private law, which depending on where you go from here could be based on natural law with some sort of community authority as opposed to a nameless faceless federal justice system",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492871686 122300175,122309658,2017-04-22 14:35:29,">>122308578 The federal government should actively control immigration and provide border security, yes or no?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492871729 122300175,122309720,2017-04-22 14:35:55,">>122309524 if you are lowering property values you may have to restitution your ass right out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492871755 122300175,122310037,2017-04-22 14:38:34,">>122309658 if a government exists like the federal government then the feds most BASIC function should be the strictest border security possible where only immigrants with willing private property recipients to bear all liabilities are allowed in short answer: yes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492871914 122300175,122310159,2017-04-22 14:39:42,">>122309658 the only issue is a democratic government will always necessarily fail to do so.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492871982 122300175,122310229,2017-04-22 14:40:16,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492872016 122300175,122310262,2017-04-22 14:40:37,">>122309524 Yeah, and an undisireable can become Fuhrer by seizing power, or be democratically elected. That's why we're culturally conservative. We wish not to sell our property to scumfucks what's your point?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492872037 122300175,122310296,2017-04-22 14:40:55,,,Anonymous,1492395535547.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,US,,1492872055 122300175,122310328,2017-04-22 14:41:11,">>122306743 >ancap >nigger tries to enter someone's property >gets shot >nigger tries to use toll road without paying >gets physically removed >nigger is given permission by the cuck property owner to enter his property >rest of property owners shun the cuck (or not, depending on how much of a cuck they are, maybe in their private covenant they want niggers inside) Read Hoppe. There is nothing more discriminatory than private property rights.",,Anonymous,hanshermannhoppe.jpg,ZdjyTmJ81Lu39p/lvSeDvA==,AR,,1492872071 122300175,122310335,2017-04-22 14:41:13,,,Anonymous,1492395609265.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,US,,1492872073 122300175,122310383,2017-04-22 14:41:32,,,Anonymous,1492395637115.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,US,,1492872092 122300175,122310429,2017-04-22 14:41:53,">>122310229 This is the top video on the website by the way.",,Anonymous,hokeywolf02.jpg,qxarHJNupCn6GragDfToUA==,GB,,1492872113 122300175,122310436,2017-04-22 14:41:55,,,Anonymous,1492396440333.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1492872115 122300175,122310485,2017-04-22 14:42:24,,,Anonymous,1492396468262.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,US,,1492872144 122300175,122310505,2017-04-22 14:42:43,,,Anonymous,1492396492581.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,US,,1492872163 122300175,122310543,2017-04-22 14:43:01,,,Anonymous,1492396548626.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,US,,1492872181 122300175,122310623,2017-04-22 14:43:36,,,Anonymous,1492396591663.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,US,,1492872216 122300175,122310626,2017-04-22 14:43:37,">>122309571 The right-wing currently controls the federal justice system. The supreme court is literally the best possible tool for actually getting libertarian concepts ingrained into law nowadays. I fully expect that we'll see the end of affirmative action and other forms of forced integration through supreme court judgements in the near future. >>122310159 >the only issue is a democratic government will always necessarily fail to do so. I might have agreed with you in the past, but things are different now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492872217 122300175,122310714,2017-04-22 14:44:28,">>122310296 >>122310328 >quote-mind",,Anonymous,1492203506553.jpg,gjm5N12fS0kVmkLiORWcKw==,GB,,1492872268 122300175,122310745,2017-04-22 14:44:45,">>122310429 Mark Passio is as important as Hoppe to our movement.",,Anonymous,natural law.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,US,,1492872285 122300175,122310847,2017-04-22 14:45:43,>>122310714,,Anonymous,1492394243082.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1492872343 122300175,122310981,2017-04-22 14:46:52,,,Anonymous,assassins creed truth.png,DGner2Hpts7l5Frj4DfYJw==,US,,1492872412 122300175,122311021,2017-04-22 14:47:10,,,Anonymous,muh benefits.jpg,MOKE5m0VEBmcaOPS8RE6Rg==,US,,1492872430 122300175,122311057,2017-04-22 14:47:27,,,Anonymous,1492740102005.jpg,XuSVza3ON6tareEMcjcBZg==,US,,1492872447 122300175,122311086,2017-04-22 14:47:40,">>122310328 Isn't Argentina the country where you have one of the best closed off residential neighborhoods where the walls keeping the degenerates at bay helped flood their homes during raining season?",,Anonymous,1473113246858.jpg,op35mgX+umOfdH8k2ibzZg==,PT,,1492872460 122300175,122311097,2017-04-22 14:47:46,,,Anonymous,1490045768239.jpg,Pzgizy4H4pOtNobe2WZCug==,US,,1492872466 122300175,122311138,2017-04-22 14:48:05,">>122310328 For starters, in America it is already perfectly legal to shoot intruders, so that has no appeal to me. Why would I want to abolish the government just to get something that I already have? Also, you guys keep talking about fully privatized cities. What stops a fully privatized city from banning firearms completely? In that case, I would have LESS personal freedom than I have now.",,Anonymous,1492570186313.gif,zRLGafK9bcemapuHXDqmPw==,US,,1492872485 122300175,122311181,2017-04-22 14:48:26,,,Anonymous,1480371222251.jpg,DoitkvhZlfrzpNe0ozEkGg==,US,,1492872506 122300175,122311229,2017-04-22 14:48:57,,,Anonymous,slavery.jpg,p5M6av1cG2CPFW3QmZAAtw==,US,,1492872537 122300175,122311284,2017-04-22 14:49:19,,,Anonymous,sovereign.jpg,9Tnf4cJk/BQjdrudl8o5QQ==,US,,1492872559 122300175,122311331,2017-04-22 14:49:43,">>122309571 >the market and all the people participating. Some sort of round table meeting? >as opposed to a nameless faceless federal justice system Does this matter for him? He is still getting removed. >>122310262 >That's why we're culturally conservative. Libertarians are not conservative, when the past means nothing to them >We wish not to sell our property to scumfucks what's your point? In this situation the sale has already been made and you need to get rid of him. Isnt this exactly the gun to your head metaphor always used here? Being a the mercy of a higher force, it being on a smaller scale does not matter when the outcome is the same",,Anonymous,1456209950723.png,p4My7otRKsL5Bere2JkXEg==,NL,,1492872583 122300175,122311333,2017-04-22 14:49:45,"Everyone in OP pic is a jew. Why don't go play on reddit, you're never going to convince /pol/ to support a jewish movement.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492872585 122300175,122311345,2017-04-22 14:49:49,,,Anonymous,benjamin-franklin-when-the-people-find-they-can-vote-themselves-money-that-will-herald-the-end-of-the-republic.jpg,+eLcC2LwnnFANDfPRSjIkg==,US,,1492872589 122300175,122311453,2017-04-22 14:50:44,">>122311138 Freedom is the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants. Freedom is subjective. If you want to live in that city, then you have freedom.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492872644 122300175,122311485,2017-04-22 14:51:06,>>122311333,,Anonymous,((())).png,A+U0uc+5K8sDTutQZm9GLw==,GB,,1492872666 122300175,122311523,2017-04-22 14:51:25,">>122311086 There was a boom of private residential neighborhoods, but I don't know if we're the best. >>122311138 >Why would I want to abolish the government just to get something that I already have? To get the freedom that you don't have. >What stops a fully privatized city from banning firearms completely? The same thing that stops your country from banning firearms completely: armed people.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1492872685 122300175,122311610,2017-04-22 14:52:17,">>122310335 >>122310383 >>122310436 >>122310485 God, I love Hoppe. Too many (((libertarians))) ignore the effects of culture and beliefs in favor of universalism, e.g. ""It's socially acceptable that Facebook censors conservatives because there shouldn't be a law against it."" At best their attitude is cowardice, and at worst it's subversive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492872737 122300175,122311632,2017-04-22 14:52:30,">>122311333 Ron Paul??",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492872750 122300175,122311658,2017-04-22 14:52:42,">>122311138 Insurance agencies would promote gun ownership and the teaching of responsible gun usage as to lower premium costs and discourage future crime. Cities that banned firearms would only attract people who dislike firearms and were willing to give up their most immediate means of self defense.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1492872762 122300175,122311728,2017-04-22 14:53:16,">>122310626 I want to be as optimistic as you, but statistical data proves otherwise. In fact without a significant change in bureaucratic structure and ruling elite/collapse of state, there has NEVER been an instance of rescinding state benefits. Obamacare is a good example. Given the option it will always degenerate to more tax more gib. I am proud of what we have right now, and I pray to god that Trump can make use of the republican majority(ignoring the lefty shit neocons), and the right wing in the justice system (ICE news makes me particularly happy). However I cannot place my faith in man to do what is right only my hope. i fear that our civic system, designed with inherent flaws will be destined to fail. I hope I am wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492872796 122300175,122311912,2017-04-22 14:54:52,">>122311333 Politics is a Jewish sport. Our movement is at first political, whilst after society is cleansed of subhumans who cannot activate their neocortex and come to the obvious conclusion we have, that all beings are sovereign and have God endowed natural rights - will only then after be little to do with politics. And more likely to be about feminine aspects of humanity which have been rejected because of repeated subversion of monetary systems, religion and government institutions, and any other form of authority that thrives through violence and not voluntary means.",,Anonymous,1491700141666.png,fQDlhZ83PxHCx8RC2TsslA==,US,,1492872892 122300175,122312102,2017-04-22 14:56:37,">>122311728 If Trump doesn't change course the only solution is FULL ACCELERATION.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492872997 122300175,122312168,2017-04-22 14:57:18,">>122311333 >>122311912 Oops wrong pic sorry, here is a picture of a Psychopath. They are notorious for having no ability for empathy. They were literally denied in their childhood the proper neuro peptides and developmental processes (whether through abuse or nutrition or whatever) to development the only part of the brain that is actually human, capable of art, music, etc. They live off the limbic or reptilian brain. Essentially what the Libertarian Right movement is doing without noticing, is purging society of those who have literal swiss cheese for brains",,Anonymous,psychopathy.jpg,mR37ufLaDPpV7JhVjfnBFg==,US,,1492873038 122300175,122312175,2017-04-22 14:57:23,">>122311331 Do you understand how the market works? Also it matters when the justice system has no stake in protecting you but rather the degenerate who represent his constituency.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492873043 122300175,122312367,2017-04-22 14:58:56,">>122312175 >the justice system has no stake Because the jury system was subverted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492873136 122300175,122312409,2017-04-22 14:59:23,">>122311331 >Libertarians are not conservative, when the past means nothing to them Thanks for projecting faggot. Now fuck off you low IQ potato drinking nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492873163 122300175,122312597,2017-04-22 15:00:58,">>122312102 the only solution may be the final solution, maybe see it in my lifetime",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492873258 122300175,122312776,2017-04-22 15:02:29,">>122312175 Im trying to put it in a practical perspective. Also its easy to put everything libertarian in an ideal situations where everything magically works but everything state related in the most negative light. You assumptions should go both ways >>122312409 How is that a projection, its true. Neither the past nor de distant future matter to the individualist. also epik adhoms my friend",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492873349 122300175,122312809,2017-04-22 15:02:43,">>122312367 it wont be subverted when the judges are neighbors and aquaintences or friends, and are a part the the community rather than a marxist from washington DC",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492873363 122300175,122312958,2017-04-22 15:03:58,">>122312809 Nobody here arguing against libertarianism is favour of the american system",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492873438 122300175,122313264,2017-04-22 15:06:43,">>122312776 >Neither the past nor de distant future matter to the individualist Are you stating that no individualist is a conservative? Rather 'the state' has to force conservatism onto all?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492873603 122300175,122313266,2017-04-22 15:06:44,">>122312809 Here Spooner wrote some good stuff about Juries. http://www.barefootsworld.net/trial01.html",,Anonymous,spooner.jpg,4bneJaQRU0UyPdD8pyfuTQ==,US,,1492873604 122300175,122313385,2017-04-22 15:07:49,">>122311333 Ron Paul? Hoppe? Bastiat? You're worng, nice digits though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492873669 122300175,122313616,2017-04-22 15:09:35,">>122312776 I think the assumption does go both ways. The critcisms comes from how any particular system can possibly fail not how they can possibly succeed. I see the state run by majority subhumans who implement socialism and destroy the country while effectively destroying the white population the worst possible of all ends.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492873775 122300175,122313847,2017-04-22 15:11:37,">>122312776 I'll throw ad homs at you all day nerd. Individuals build civilization while collectives bitch at individuals to come up with new ideas. Why don't you call the wambulance, crybaby.",,Anonymous,eJwNyFEOgyAMANC7cADqSkHxNgQJmikltMaPZXff3uf7mHucZjW7apcVYDsk89isKI9Ui63M9SypH2IzX5BUU96v0lQAI0UKtMTZO__Igv_Xn2iZ5uAwIuKLCO72bvw021s13x8KjCLr.png,S+yqfcOC0Wj+9gR2snLXPA==,US,,1492873897 122300175,122314046,2017-04-22 15:13:12,">>122313266 > FOR more than six hundred years - that is, since Magna Carta, in 1215 - there has been no clearer principle of English or American constitutional law, than that, in criminal cases, it is not only the right and duty of juries to judge what are the facts, what is the law, and what was the moral intent of the accused; but that it is also their right, and their primary and paramount duty, to judge of the justice of the law, and to hold all laws invalid, that are, in their opinion, unjust or oppressive, and all persons guiltless in violating, or resisting the execution of, such laws. >Unless such be the right and duty of jurors, it is plain that, instead of juries being a ""palladium of liberty ""- a barrier against the tyranny and oppression of the government - they are really mere tools in its hands, for carrying into execution any injustice and oppression it may desire to have executed. >But for their right to judge of the law, and the justice of the law, juries would be no protection to an accused person, even as to matters of fact; for, if the government can dictate to a jury any law whatever, in a criminal case, it can certainly dictate to them the laws of evidence. That is, it can dictate what evidence is admissible, and what inadmissible, and also what force or weight is to be given to the evidence admitted. And if the government can thus dictate to a jury the laws of evidence, it can not only make it necessary for them to convict on a partial exhibition of the evidence rightfully pertaining to the case, but it can even require them to convict on any evidence whatever that it pleases to offer them.",,Anonymous,1490453725638.jpg,3y9+Z71EVIalWDGvInkSNA==,US,,1492873992 122300175,122314179,2017-04-22 15:14:19,">>122313847 >civilization while collectives It's not an either/or situation, buddy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492874059 122300175,122314198,2017-04-22 15:14:25,,,Anonymous,eJwVzEEOAiEMAMC_8ABaaWVhf0NYwmIWIbSejH9Xr3OYt3mty-zmVJ2yAxxN8liHFR0r1WLrGPUqaTaxeXRIqimfvTxVgNCxdwE3Rxx99Ig_YtooYgw3T8z34KH1f_OY1Xy-voMhzQ.IafC14AECZrvHnHCWgefaYkQg8s.jpg,vRt+/j2gFGyv5Msyw1vYsw==,GB,,1492874065 122300175,122314378,2017-04-22 15:15:44,">>122313266 ill check this out I enjoyed posting with most of you guys but i got to get to work here is a good quote by a fairly important guy",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-01-19 at 10.10.33 AM.png,ISPUWuId52wtTl7cEBdjXQ==,US,,1492874144 122300175,122314392,2017-04-22 15:15:51,">>122314179 >Individuals build civilization while collectives bitch* Sorry I meant to respond to this quote. In-group/out-group dynamics are evolutionary tools and absolutely essential to maintaining liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492874151 122300175,122314466,2017-04-22 15:16:26,individualism is for fags,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492874186 122300175,122314508,2017-04-22 15:16:45,">>122311138 >What stops a fully privatized city from banning firearms completely? self. interest. lowering the marginal utility of their product (the living space) will lower the value of the property and hurt their own bottom line at least try to understand capitalism before debating anarcho-capitalism it's like trying to discuss calculus with someone who hasn't learned arithmetic",,Anonymous,1491192843681.gif,fGrwVTp0wgkT8iPDSVkCVQ==,US,,1492874205 122300175,122314688,2017-04-22 15:18:13,">>122314378 Sweet. I'm currently building a Chilean (IMBEL) FAL.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492874293 122300175,122314748,2017-04-22 15:18:44,">>122314466 >individualism is for fags individualism is for the in-group",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492874324 122300175,122314860,2017-04-22 15:19:44,">>122300175 >(((half of the people in the meme))) Take your shit ideology and spend it somewhere else. It isn't valid currency here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492874384 122300175,122314961,2017-04-22 15:20:40,">>122313264 Yes. The state in a way intrinsically conservative since it is simply a continuation and thus preservation of the past >>122313616 >>122312958 >>122313847 A civilization is collective, an individual cannot build a civilization. Also why are you implying im crying?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492874440 122300175,122315125,2017-04-22 15:22:06,">>122314860 Libertarianism is an organic outgrowth of the American people. If anything is invalid, it's Marxism and Hitlerism. Captcha: DRIVE South Damn right!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492874526 122300175,122315319,2017-04-22 15:23:53,>>122314860,,Anonymous,1492602114006.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,GB,,1492874633 122300175,122315338,2017-04-22 15:23:59,">mfw reality outmemes fiction http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4435118/Somali-pirates-lose-deadly-gun-fight-security-guards.html",,Anonymous,dreamjob.png,pn0W+ZtIHulSR+moDCKz/w==,ES,,1492874639 122300175,122315545,2017-04-22 15:25:49,>>122315319,,Anonymous,A79135971.png,DMXbAuCjL2M7fTzCdCedtA==,GB,,1492874749 122300175,122315597,2017-04-22 15:26:18,>>122315545,,Anonymous,xiu0csrnhcfx.png,TDj7wxgduIog9HGSqOZj0A==,GB,,1492874778 122300175,122315837,2017-04-22 15:28:03,">>122314961 Because you're a baby. There is no collective without individuals.",,Anonymous,goodnews.png,ErreVRnAjga2CjD0YfLNOQ==,US,,1492874883 122300175,122315879,2017-04-22 15:28:32,>>122315545,,Anonymous,15965835_10211285802242119_8364638551044729307_n.jpg,Bp6f3e6wAO4dhn2s0IECew==,US,,1492874912 122300175,122316015,2017-04-22 15:29:50,">>122310626 >I might have agreed with you in the past, but things are different now. We understand that arming ISIS to fight against middle eastern regimes was a mistake, because the moment you give someone power to help you, you also give power to use it against you, why, then, can't we understand that arming the government to oppress our political rivals will always end up with us suffering that oppression after a few years? Yes, you might have the control now (and not even, Trump is proving to be another puppet subjected to the same rules as the rest of politicians), but the problem is that socialism generates dependencies, so democracy will always tend towards more and more socialism, because democrats will expand socialism, and republicans will be afraid to repeal it because at that point a lot of people depend on it. You're playing a game you will always lose and you haven't realized it yet.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492874990 122300175,122316309,2017-04-22 15:32:11,">>122315597 Lolbertarians use adhoms the most though >>122315837 The individual is shaped by the collective, thus the individual in its current form would not exists without the collective. Also I am in fact not a baby",,Anonymous,Horatius.jpg,PADgMj6eS8EAG/Ycr1O0bw==,NL,,1492875131 122300175,122316591,2017-04-22 15:34:33,">>122316309 >Also I am in fact not a baby I'm starting to think you might be",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492875273 122300175,122316740,2017-04-22 15:35:52,">>122316309 Collectivism is leading to maximum individuality. Forced association allows people to exclude themselves from society, yet profit from its advantages. Libertarianism leads to more collaboration and engagement because society has its advantages, so people will want to form unions, mutual aid societies, and private communities in order to take advantage of pooling resources, but without the state they will actually need to interact for them.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492875352 122300175,122316859,2017-04-22 15:36:49,">GOD TIER Reactionary Liberty >good tier universal nationalism, anarcho-capitalism, conservative Christianity >bad tier feminism, environmentalism, pacifism, egalitarianism, anything prefixed with radical- >what the fuck are you doing tier socialism, communism",,Anonymous,1492748416903.jpg,xq9kAxivYGVEn6cEL4A0TA==,US,,1492875409 122300175,122317040,2017-04-22 15:38:23,">>122314961 >Yes. The state in a way intrinsically conservative since it is simply a continuation and thus preservation of the past This surely isn't a democracy. In democracies you steal everything you can and use this to make something look good, even if its through keynesian policies. Then you try to get relected and if succeds, you repeat for as many times as you can get reelected. Democratic governments only has a short term goals. You assuption is entirely wrong. If european governments have long term goals, why they allow immigration? If the native population doesn't breed as fast as the immigrats, what do you expect to happen? Kingdoms, monarchies had long term plans. That's why, at least in Europe and in Japan, this model worked so fine. It is a family ruling. The king wanna give the kingdom better to his son and so on. This also occurs in the indivual level too. You plan to give your business to you son and so on carrying the name of the family through the centuries. Individualism doesn't mean egoism. LIbertarians can be conservative.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492875503 122300175,122317543,2017-04-22 15:42:44,,,Anonymous,1491774328231_0.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1492875764 122300175,122317724,2017-04-22 15:44:16,">>122315837 >There is no collective without individuals. >>122316309 >The individual is shaped by the collective This isn't a chicken and egg problem. It's really very simple. People with shared interests form a nation. Treat those who belong to your group as an individual, treat those who DO NOT belong to your group as a collective. It's pretty obvious when you think about it. As it stands, neither the revolutionary underclass nor the ruling elite share our interests. We are a nation ruled by a hostile state, which makes it completely understandable why libertarians hate the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492875856 122300175,122317750,2017-04-22 15:44:29,">>122300175 I'm pretty sure I belong here, but what are your views on WW2 and JQ?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492875869 122300175,122317952,2017-04-22 15:46:19,">>122317750 Fuck the Jews, Hitler did do something wrong tho. Welfare and all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492875979 122300175,122318023,2017-04-22 15:46:46,,,Anonymous,autright_vs_libright.jpg,b9E/qJEpZhNGawg62bpniA==,GB,,1492876006 122300175,122318228,2017-04-22 15:48:25,">>122317750 >WW2 The bad guys won. Proof: we didn't destroy the Soviets after removing their biggest threat. >JQ A highly ethnocentric minority with influence completely disproportional to their population and talent, often openly hostile to their host nations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492876105 122300175,122318836,2017-04-22 15:53:21,"http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492524406387.webm Libertarianism is for civic nationalist cucks.",,Anonymous,Hitler 10.jpg,FwWWTOoZrgGdoqEP4lpeRQ==,CA,,1492876401 122300175,122318974,2017-04-22 15:54:35,">>122316591 my feeling will get hurt any second now... >>122316740 >forced association a person can always leave the country or just kill himself >exclude themselves from society, yet profit from its advantages depending on the ideology of the state though, this will not always be tolerated. >because society has its advantages for the individual, which is not de-facto advantageous for the whole of society. >>122317040 >why they allow immigration? because this is also simply a continuation of subversive ideas from the past. not very state follows the same principles, so if this continuation is positive or negative depends. >You plan to give your business to you son and so on carrying the name of the family through the centuries this would mean you are not a true individualist in my eyes. A true individualist wouldn't care about the future he leaves for his descendants because the descendant have not yet acted in a way to warrant an action in their favour from the individualist",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492876475 122300175,122320066,2017-04-22 16:04:18,">>122318974 >a person can always leave the country or just kill himself So people should kill themselves to avoid oppression? Hopefully soon your country will be full of immigrants who install sharia law and we will see if you revisit your thoughts. >depending on the ideology of the state though, this will not always be tolerated. Give me one, only one example of a state that during the last 30 years has not progressed towards more generalization of indiscriminated socialism? I'll wait. You know perfectly well that democracy will always lead towards countries being more and more leftist.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492877058 122300175,122320097,2017-04-22 16:04:33,">>122318974 >this would mean you are not a true individualist in my eyes. A true individualist wouldn't care about the future he leaves for his descendants because the descendant have not yet acted in a way to warrant an action in their favour from the individualist I don't know how your mother raised you, but we, normal people, like children as a blood of ours. As I said, libertarianism bounds very well with conservatism. Libertarianism isn't egoism as you tried to point out. Pls, stop reading Rand. Go read the bible. >because this is also simply a continuation of subversive ideas from the past. not very state follows the same principles, so if this continuation is positive or negative depends. I really don't know what you mean. You said the state needs to enforce conservatism because people were too dumb. This isn't my vision of individualism, which is completely in favour of conservatism. The state is the biggest enemy of conservatism, mainly the democratic state which profits from it calling every cultural objetion as evil racist whatever. You shouldn't trust the state to back up your culture.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492877073 122300175,122320674,2017-04-22 16:09:53,"https://soundcloud.com/musonius-rufus/rebel-yell-20170128-214-the-atlanta-forum I'll just leave this here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492877393 122300175,122321403,2017-04-22 16:15:40,">>122320066 im not advocating for democracy and the current system so those things you mentioned would never happen >>122320097 libertarianism is build around individualism, stop using rand as a scapegoat when other libertarian thinkers use the same rationale >libertarianism bounds very well with conservatism it does not, and I do not care, just stop pretending >You shouldn't trust the state to back up your culture. culture is a collective thing and the state represents the collective, so why wouldn't I",,Anonymous,Mussolini.jpg,rRGMvylgpAJcm44I+HKkUA==,NL,,1492877740 122300175,122321618,2017-04-22 16:17:18,">>122300175 we dont have these unfunny stuff in here however theere lurks danger >>122306926 >>122306926 >>122306926 >>122306926",,Pepe,1492824755913.jpg,vsp4195QKX6sejvETVhNEw==,GR,,1492877838 122300175,122321717,2017-04-22 16:17:59,">>122318974 run like th ewind .... you esp. >>122306926 >>122306926 >>122306926 >>122306926",,Pepe,1029193-revengeshinobi.jpg,Ph6tU/21FrRGxQ56pIahog==,GR,,1492877879 122300175,122321734,2017-04-22 16:18:09,">>122300175 I still can't fathom how you fuckers decided you can trust the authorities to just throw the bad guys out of helicopters. I mean fair enough the people tend to be docile sheep who vote for paternalism; but you're still ignoring the value of a democracy as a check on government power. Authority is simply not to be trusted with anything beyond the most necessary powers even if they're doing what you want them to in the short term, that won't last.",,Anonymous,road to serfdom.jpg,XXJ+VyXkpH5ILB+nS2Z5CQ==,US,,1492877889 122300175,122321938,2017-04-22 16:20:00,">>122321618 >>122321717 >babby just discovered yuri fuck off newfag",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492878000 122300175,122322065,2017-04-22 16:21:05,">>122321734 >Implying I won't throw commies from choppers myself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878065 122300175,122322187,2017-04-22 16:22:18,">>122321916 >>122321916 >>122321916 >>122321916 >>122321916 >>122321916 >>122321916",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878138 122300175,122322271,2017-04-22 16:23:04,">>122321403 The state doesn't represent a culture, there's a word for that: nation. A nation isn't necessarily a state nor a state is necessarily a nation. Again, you are too dumb to understand. Individualism means you choose your objectives. If it is around family and religion, you're being conservative. Libertarianism is just the economic background, it doesn't tell you how and for what you should live, this question is completely outside libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492878184 122300175,122322353,2017-04-22 16:23:48,">>122322187 What? Corporatism is fucking gay. Why do you need a general for the system that's in place right now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878228 122300175,122322456,2017-04-22 16:24:34,">>122321734 >democracy as a check on government power. HOW?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878274 122300175,122322509,2017-04-22 16:25:02,">>122322353 kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878302 122300175,122322624,2017-04-22 16:26:03,">>122311658 >Insurance agencies would promote gun ownership and the teaching of responsible gun usage as to lower premium costs and discourage future crime. How many real-life corporations actively promote gun ownership unless they actually manufacture guns themselves? I honestly can't think of any.",,Anonymous,1491441518182.gif,Gn56REgs8z8JD2jR5Co3HA==,US,,1492878363 122300175,122322734,2017-04-22 16:26:56,">>122322353 >the system that's in place right now its not",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492878416 122300175,122322841,2017-04-22 16:27:54,">>122322353 >he we see a retarded lolbergtarian",,Anonymous,32.jpg,ESmf8v2K1dmrD9ppb0oXCA==,US,,1492878474 122300175,122322869,2017-04-22 16:28:05,">>122322187 unlimited liability was a mistake",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878485 122300175,122322876,2017-04-22 16:28:08,">>122309289 How is ether produced? it seems way more complicated to get involved in than your average crypto",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878488 122300175,122323101,2017-04-22 16:30:09,">>122322734 Tell me what is in place right now in America.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878609 122300175,122323145,2017-04-22 16:30:28,">>122322187 LIMITED LIABILITY was a mistake",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878628 122300175,122323246,2017-04-22 16:31:22,">>122321403 hurry bro our ass is on fire >>122306926 >>122306926 >>122306926 >>122306926",,Pepe,,,GR,,1492878682 122300175,122323463,2017-04-22 16:33:06,">>122322271 >conservatism is about family and religion whats the point of calling me dumb when you make statements like these? >Libertarianism is just the economic background its most certainly covers a larger scope >it doesn't tell you how and for what you should live It tells you to value freedom, so in fact it does",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492878786 122300175,122323563,2017-04-22 16:34:07,">>122323101 Progressivism and empire.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492878847 122300175,122323857,2017-04-22 16:36:31,">>122323463 >implying family and religion aren't the most important part of a culture dropped. enjoy your brain disease.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492878991 122300175,122323903,2017-04-22 16:36:52,">>122323463 >It tells you to value freedom Liberty is the mother of order, not the other way around. Anyone who wants an order that is good and true must live in liberty with their friends and fellows.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492879012 122300175,122324078,2017-04-22 16:38:15,">>122323145 Without limited liability, it would be impossible own any business without getting sued to pieces. Business owners get sued A LOT. Limited liability gives them additional protection so they don't get completely ruined by lawsuits.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492879095 122300175,122324289,2017-04-22 16:40:16,hey guys us libertarians need to form a meme WARGGH in order to btfo dems and get a hoppean fiend in the wh,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492879216 122300175,122324551,2017-04-22 16:42:39,">>122323857 >implying family and religion aren't the most important part of a culture A countries history will always be the most important >>122323903 liberty is subjective >>122323101 good question, some kind of zionist neoconservative abomination",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492879359 122300175,122324892,2017-04-22 16:45:53,"The AnCap alternative to government should have a name, analogous to a form of government. The theoretical Ancapistan would still have a border with states, so even if there wasn't a government it would have a name. It would be sort of a non-monopolistic Federation I guess.",,Anonymous,frog thinking it through.jpg,rajIzSZ+tfLTNvDdwTqVhg==,US,,1492879553 122300175,122325072,2017-04-22 16:47:28,">>122324078 There is a simple solution: the complainant must pay all legal costs if they lose. Tort law could increase the burden of proof to 'beyond a reasonable doubt,' although I'm not sure that's necesarry. Lastly, I want to point out one of the biggest problems with ""capitalism"" as practiced today is the socialization of costs via negative externalities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492879648 122300175,122325422,2017-04-22 16:50:13,">>122324551 >liberty is subjective No? Give me two examples of different viewpoints and I will show you the contradiction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492879813 122300175,122325638,2017-04-22 16:52:06,">>122324892 Well we can just be lazy and still call us amercians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492879926 122300175,122325840,2017-04-22 16:53:58,">>122324892 Call it a Natural Rights Society or the Nation of Liberty or something along those lines.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492880038 122300175,122326279,2017-04-22 16:57:34,">>122324892 You mean some kind of.....Empire of Liberty?",,Anonymous,"51E6Y5cdI8L._SX350_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",c89Ixtx76Xazpq/RdRbvTw==,US,,1492880254 122300175,122326282,2017-04-22 16:57:35,">>122325422 >""I live in a society where I can do what i want on my private property, therefore i am free"" >""I live in a society where i'm surrounded by likeminded men in true unity, therefore i am free""",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492880255 122300175,122326684,2017-04-22 17:01:06,">>122326282 Those are not mutually exclusive, in fact both are necessary for freedom. The former is merely the statement of the ideal, while the latter is the social reality. What unresolvable conflict do you see between the two?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492880466 122300175,122326901,2017-04-22 17:02:48,">>122326684 the latter can exist without the former",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492880568 122300175,122327004,2017-04-22 17:03:52,">>122325638 >>122325840 >>122326279 >Empire of Liberty >Natural Rights Soceity Something like that. I'm thinking the word needs to be the same category as Kingdom or Republic. Some day there may be a neologism for it with the proper latin root.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492880632 122300175,122327146,2017-04-22 17:04:55,">>122326901 Well, the missing context in that situation is the latter isn't American.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492880695 122300175,122327651,2017-04-22 17:08:54,">>122326684 ""Empire of Liberty"" is a nod to how Thomas Jefferson described his vision for the early republic, intended as a contrast to the British Empire which he saw as cruel and oppressive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492880934 122300175,122327664,2017-04-22 17:08:58,">>122317040 Btfo. To add to this: You can't force conservatism onto anyone. You can only cooperate with fellow conservatives and spread your ideas in the hope that individuals follow - which they will, and do. The use of force against will leads to genocide. So either you advocate state-killing, or you advocate individualism. There is no alternative - forced collectivism breeds genocide - just look at Stalin. Democracy is the greatest threat to conservatism. Democracy destroys conservatism. Democracy cannot uphold conservative values because it becomes riddled with liberals. Democracy is liberal by nature. Assuming you are on the right of the political bell-curve, in a conservative sense, democracy will always bring you back to the middle. The state is therefore the greatest thread to your mold of conservatism as it forces liberalism onto you against your free will. I am a libertarian in regard to government intervention and I am a conservative in regard to culture and tradition. The two are not mutually exclusive. Libertarianism is the only system in which you can freely practice your version of conservatism. The alternatives are genocide, or liberal democracy.",,Anonymous,1448790838381.jpg,Lk8eELQwl6jdXczxmHo4yg==,GB,,1492880938 122300175,122327741,2017-04-22 17:09:36,">Hoppe’s errors are natural for a German philosopher who was trained by Marxists. And while the errors are substantial by today’s standards, they are limited to errors in construction (justification), with his conclusions from his justifications surviving. This is important. From Hoppe’s earliest work onward, his deductions from incentives are correct. >We justify moral actions within a normative system of evolved rules, and we criticize truth propositions to test whether the theories survive. We do not find truth in justification – we find permission. We find truth in survival against all known criticism. Justification translates to “I can get away with saying this so you cannot say I violated the rules of cooperation: morality or law” while truth propositions under ratio-scientific criticism translate to “I have done due diligence to determine if this argument survives all know attempts at failure, regardless of preference, morality or law.” Hoppe confuses legal justification (excuse making), with truth (survival from all competition). As Mises discovered but failed to understand, truth propositions including human choice require the possibility of constructing a sequence of rational choices AND the survival from categorical, logical, empirical falsification.Truth propositions survive competition. >Possession demonstrably (empirically) exists prior to cooperation, and property exist after an agreement to cooperate. Scarcity exists prior to cooperation. But scarcity is imperceptible. Cost is perceptible. The origin of demonstrable property is in the cost to acquire. Scarcity explains why things are costly, but not the origination of possession nor the origination of property.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1492880976 122300175,122327771,2017-04-22 17:09:52,">>122327146 this is a hypothetical situations, I never even mentioned america or any other country. by claiming the word ""freedom"" the libertarian thinks he is always on the right side of the argument because he is for freedom, and who is against freedom right. >>122327664 >btfo how so?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492880992 122300175,122327859,2017-04-22 17:10:33,">>122327741 >Different sets of Property rights evolve in communities due to the disproportionate returns on cooperation at the given level of division of ability, knowledge and labor – and the necessity of preserving those returns by prohibiting parasitism. Property rights do not originate in scarcity of goods, they originate in the scarcity and disproportionate return on cooperation. We pay for cooperation by forgoing opportunities to use or consume that which others have already invested in using and consuming. Man like other animals retaliates against the imposition of costs upon that which he has himself born costs with the intent to inventory. I don't see how any of Hoppe's arguments survive after that",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1492881033 122300175,122328144,2017-04-22 17:12:52,">>122327771 Because democrats have no interest in preserving conservatism. They are only interested in getting elected and re-elected - whatever else is far behind. As he pointed out, that leads to short-term policies such as neo-liberal immigration which has led to the utter annihilation of European culture and tradition.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492881172 122300175,122328386,2017-04-22 17:14:56,">>122328144 the conservation of subversive ideas such as democracy is still a form of conservation",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492881296 122300175,122328475,2017-04-22 17:15:43,">>122328144 Brexit was achieved through a plebiscite. Without democracy, you'd still be part of the EU, forever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492881343 122300175,122328889,2017-04-22 17:19:09,">>122327664 What's so bad about genocide? Doesn't Hoppe argue that if a creature doesn't subscribe to argumentation then it's not a person? Genocide of such creatures would merely be the slaughter of pests.",,Anonymous,reeeeeee fractal.png,wFQUt/t058XW7zp4Y2ZkIQ==,US,,1492881549 122300175,122328901,2017-04-22 17:19:14,">>122328475 Democracy brought us into the EU in the first place so that's not an argument. All we've done is replace one set of law-makers with another. Exchanged one set of migrants for another. It's not conservative. As stated, his form of conservatism is to the right of the bell-curve. You can cherry pick examples like Brexit, but in the long run his conservatism is destroyed by democracy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492881554 122300175,122328902,2017-04-22 17:19:15,">>122327771 >this is a hypothetical situations Fair enough, but my perspective and conception of everything is obviously American. So to take a more objective approach >I can do what i want on my private property is moot if >i'm surrounded by likeminded men and then your shared conception of property is fundamentally different than ""private property,"" i.e. the right to exclude anyone for any reason. Don't confuse reciprocal rights for meaning ""do as thou wilt"" either. These things all have precise definitions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492881555 122300175,122329419,2017-04-22 17:23:28,">>122328889 >What's so bad about genocide? ... A genocide of liberals is what occurs when you take away their safety nets. When parasitic leeches and welfare queens who starve society suddenly realise that the taxpayer won't foot the bill for their 3rd year of unemployment, or their fifth child, or their healthcare, or schooling, they suddenly stop having children. The weak are killed off. Inequality of nature thrives. Long term conservatism is what prospers. The rise of liberals and the rise of the state is not a coincidence.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492881808 122300175,122329599,2017-04-22 17:25:16,">>122328901 Okay, but what's the alternative? A dictator is unlikely to support Libertarianism, unless all you care about is the elimination of the welfare state and nothing beyond that. And even with a dictator, you might still end up with a welfare state if he's leftist. I can see the advantages of a dictatorships, but I can also see the drawbacks, and with dictators, mistakes are extremely difficult to correct.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492881916 122300175,122329722,2017-04-22 17:26:24,">>122328889 Yes, and honest argumentation can only exist with consistent values. When things as fundamental as the definitions of violence/aggression or freedom/property are under dispute, there is no reconciliation. War between states are fought over resources and territory. Civil wars are fought over the definition of words.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492881984 122300175,122329782,2017-04-22 17:26:55,">>122329599 The answer is to end democracy.",,Anonymous,1491844924102.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,GB,,1492882015 122300175,122329866,2017-04-22 17:27:41,">>122329782 And replace it with........",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492882061 122300175,122330282,2017-04-22 17:31:07,">>122328902 >is moot if i'm not familiar with this terminology, forgive me. >i.e. the right to exclude anyone for any reason this was implied with ""do what I want""",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492882267 122300175,122330346,2017-04-22 17:31:41,">>122329866 Anarcho-capitalism, but every 5 years all individuals must make a sacrifice to Hoppe, which if he doesn't seem fit, will result in a helicopter ride.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492882301 122300175,122330362,2017-04-22 17:31:48,">>122329599 >and with dictators, mistakes are extremely difficult to correct. It is more difficult to correct a democracy. There is no accountability in democracy because they tell you ""lol just wait 4 years,"" but then the game is always fixed. In light of this, we are our own worst enemies for believing there is a real choice between two sects that represent either progressivism or progressivism from 20 years ago.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492882308 122300175,122330684,2017-04-22 17:34:23,">>122329866 Private property",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492882463 122300175,122330711,2017-04-22 17:34:32,">>122330282 To grossly simplify your example, no one will WANT to do something in defiance of others who are LIKE MINDED. It's a trivial problem. Moot means ""up for debate""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492882472 122300175,122331165,2017-04-22 17:38:01,">>122330362 If you still believe the ""both major parties are the same"" nonsense after the last election then I honestly don't know what to tell you. >>122330346 I don't believe that anarchy is a feasible system, doesn't matter what type of anarchism either. >>122330684 Private property exists under the current system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492882681 122300175,122331660,2017-04-22 17:41:57,">>122331165 >Private property exists under the current system. Not really, what we currently have is usufruct.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492882917 122300175,122331709,2017-04-22 17:42:20,">>122329419 This is true but I think it's incomplete. >>122329722 kek confirms If enough people understand this humanity will have another better golden age.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492882940 122300175,122331888,2017-04-22 17:43:39,">>122330711 >To grossly simplify your example you made it over complicated >no one will WANT to do something in defiance of others who are LIKE MINDED this is not relevant in question to which degree someone is truly ""free""",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492883019 122300175,122331960,2017-04-22 17:44:11,">>122331165 >Private property exists under the current system. No it doesn't it is subjugated to tax. >>122331709 see pic for a fuller explanation.",,Anonymous,why the left wants communism.png,QE+xiNHwk+AAsQqQX97Qnw==,GB,,1492883051 122300175,122333057,2017-04-22 17:53:23,">>122331960 >No it doesn't it is subjugated to tax. Without property tax, what would stop somebody from just buying up a plot of land and then never using it for anything productive?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492883603 122300175,122333151,2017-04-22 17:54:08,">>122331888 (Checked) >""free"" So you're just playing with semantics, which was predictable. Disagreeing on the definition of the word does not make the abstract ideas subjective. You are talking about two separate things. Don't let language confuse you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492883648 122300175,122333155,2017-04-22 17:54:08,,,Anonymous,47606fc4521f1b00da1537043bfedd6863019f3c0bf063c40790852dd4ead231_1.jpg,WHutw/7ZtxE7uCG0kMD5ow==,BR,,1492883648 122300175,122333269,2017-04-22 17:55:15,">>122333057 >then never using it for anything productive Autism warning: Is it really property?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492883715 122300175,122333425,2017-04-22 17:56:25,">>122327741 >>122327859 Reads like a load of philosophical jargon which could be applied to anyone rather than specifics in respect to what he advocates. Or maybe I'm too thick/tired to understand Curt. I think he misunderstands Hoppe - it would be preposterous to suggest he could currently survive empirical falsifications, for example. Hoppe isn't lecturing from a position of 'truth propositions'. As to the second part, I'm unsure how that contradicts Hoppe, but others may be better versed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492883785 122300175,122333580,2017-04-22 17:57:37,">>122333269 ""Real Property"" has an actual definition. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/real-property.asp",,Anonymous,Real property.png,MWiZCzrV0cl52rVFz7NYlw==,US,,1492883857 122300175,122333681,2017-04-22 17:58:26,">>122333057 Self interest? I mean, there certainly is speculation, but most people want to put their property to use even when speculating about future value. Under anarcho capitalism, that land has thousands of better alternatives than just leaving it there. If you see empty land today it is either because of problems with the state or because inheritance conflicts.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492883906 122300175,122333913,2017-04-22 18:00:11,">>122333425 >the second quote refutes hoppe by saying property rights do not arise from a free man expressing his liberty, instead it arises from someone not sharing as much as you, or somehting",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492884011 122300175,122334296,2017-04-22 18:03:10,">>122333580 >""Real Property"" has an actual definition. So does Georgism.",,Anonymous,1492848492184.jpg,xcBIxTv7K9/YMcX0G2JqwQ==,US,,1492884190 122300175,122334447,2017-04-22 18:04:21,">>122334296 >licky bum bum",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492884261 122300175,122334579,2017-04-22 18:05:27,">>122333681 Yeah, but what stops somebody from just buying an empty patch of land somewhere and then never using it? And yes, speculation could be a motivation for this. But it could also happen in other ways, like somebody inheriting land without being fully aware of it. It sounds ridiculous, but it happens. In real-life, people have an incentive to sell unused property to avoid paying taxes on it. Either that, or rent the land to somebody who will use it for something productive. There are practical reasons why property rights can't simply be unlimited. You can make a case for strengthening them in some areas, but they can't simply be unlimited.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492884327 122300175,122334791,2017-04-22 18:07:01,">>122334447 Thanks for getting that song in my head. Dingleberry",,Anonymous,snow.jpg,k0jYgEpyF+S0MXcmptbcCA==,US,,1492884421 122300175,122335107,2017-04-22 18:09:24,">>122303440 It's almost as though you think that people with not much money would start to bury corporations if we weren't so heavily taxed and regulated? This regulated and tax shit is really working out for the little people isn't is? Come back to this debate when you get smarter",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492884564 122300175,122335111,2017-04-22 18:09:25,">>122334791 is this a violation of nap?",,Anonymous,1492697227518.jpg,FqVbw5p6f4HLypb5o9lMVg==,US,,1492884565 122300175,122335793,2017-04-22 18:14:57,">>122335111 And this a violation of nap?",,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,niWVVIABbz23KYIsl32WUA==,BR,,1492884897 122300175,122335845,2017-04-22 18:15:25,">>122334579 I mean, is your property even yours if you don't know it is and you don't put it to use? Since most people will be insured by law firms, these will most likely define private property in a way that covers your hypothesis, usually by setting an amount of time before property changes from original owner's to squatters if not denounced before.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492884925 122300175,122336409,2017-04-22 18:20:04,">>122333913 But surely you express free will in the contracts brought about by the disproportionate returns on cooperation. It's a red herring in regards to Hoppe's view - doesn't seem like a contradiction, rather implicit in what most incl. Hoppe would argue.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492885204 122300175,122336777,2017-04-22 18:23:03,">>122335107 It's easy to be against regulations until you have to actually thing about the consequences. For example, would you support removing all regulations regarding the construction of nuclear reactors or the storage of nuclear waste? If so, you're downright crazy. If somebody wants to revoke a regulation of some sort, then the justification for killing the rule must be at least as good as the reasoning that was used to justify creating the rule in the first place. If you really want to reduce the regulatory load, you can’t use a shotgun, you have to use a scalpel. >>122335845 In real-life that is called ""adverse possession"" and it takes a LONG time for it to actually kick in. A property owner must be completely absent for over 21 years in order for somebody else to acquire the property through adverse possession. At least, that's the rule in this state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492885383 122300175,122337131,2017-04-22 18:26:04,">>122333057 >what would stop somebody from just buying up a plot of land and then never using it for anything productive? What is the issue here? They can do with the land as they please. >inb4 you concoct a ridiculous hypothetical scenario in which somehow some rich person buys up all the land in the world and decides to do nothing with it Literally impossible.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492885564 122300175,122337615,2017-04-22 18:30:03,">>122336777 >In real-life that is called ""adverse possession"" and it takes a LONG time for it to actually kick in. A property owner must be completely absent for over 21 years in order for somebody else to acquire the property through adverse possession. At least, that's the rule in this state. Aware, I believe it's 12 years here. This is indeed a valid concern, anarcho capitalism defines homesteading as the original appropriation through labor and consequential transference through voluntary contracts. In this case you describe, homesteading would need to be defined in a clear way by the insurance companies of both squatters and original owner, just like you would need law to protect your property, you would need it to limit your claims on it. I don't see why anarcho capitalism couldn't deal with that situation though.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492885803 122300175,122337651,2017-04-22 18:30:17,">>122335793 I'll violate your nap any day baby",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492885817 122300175,122337684,2017-04-22 18:30:37,">>122337131 I think one of the natural laws is that you don't own land unless you put it to some use. It's not enough to build a fence and declare that you own it. If someone puts the land to use and they have guns and an insurance company, then the land is theirs. What neutral third party mediator would argue with that?",,Anonymous,ron paulawoo.png,pcoGIRUZjkv1dRQAnRLgww==,US,,1492885837 122300175,122338086,2017-04-22 18:33:45,">>122336777 Although now that I think about it, you're describing a situation where no work was put, just unconscious transference of goods, I believe this is a bit more complex and would add more legitimacy to the claim of whoever puts labor in it first.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492886025 122300175,122338166,2017-04-22 18:34:22,">>122318836 >bertarianism is for civic nationalist cucks.",,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1492886062 122300175,122338431,2017-04-22 18:36:28,">>122336409 Are you saying that we express freewill by voluntary exploration of each other by the owner/tenet earning less or more than each other? i don't see how this any red herring as this is a voluntary transaction, which will most likely be contextualized in definite terms, or at the very least be arbitrated by an independent power",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492886188 122300175,122338652,2017-04-22 18:38:11,">>122327859 On this >The universal demonstration of altruistic punishment (disproportionately costly punishment of free riders, parasites, predators) demonstrates the evolutionary necessity and value of cooperation as the most costly and scarce good. (thus upending libertarianism’s attempt to suggest cooperation can be obtained for free, or that it is the natural bias of man or animal. instead, man and animal are rational. we cooperate when possible, parasite when possible and prey when possible, depending upon costs.) That's the remainder of the paragraph which expands the argument fully - I'm not sure why you left it out. The argument is surely, not that it is free, but rather that it is beneficial to all parties. He doesn't understand, or just ignores, the concept of opportunity cost. There is a larger cost of not cooperating.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492886291 122300175,122338884,2017-04-22 18:39:58,">>122338166 Extremely autistic. >le typical liberal response: none they woulda been physically removed already xD Really trying to over compensate edginess even we national socialists don't go around trying to be that edgy.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492886398 122300175,122339148,2017-04-22 18:41:54,I like the idea of libertarianism but I don't think I could get a job. Would I get shot if I tried to sell marijuana? I'm unhireable in current society. I have no qualifications or work history and am on neet bux. Would there be more opportunity in a libertarian society? Would drug cartels exist who wouldn't allow me to try to get into the newly legal markets?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492886514 122300175,122339186,2017-04-22 18:42:06,">>122338884 >extremely autistic you are tripfagging as Adolf Hitler C'mon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492886526 122300175,122339240,2017-04-22 18:42:29,">>122338884 You're not welcome here, socialist garbage",,Anonymous,1489490771918.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,NL,,1492886549 122300175,122339287,2017-04-22 18:42:51,">>122338431 Well that's surely depends on your philosophical position on free-will and fate. In a non-deterministic world we can express freewill in relation to the contract that is borne and we aren't constrained by the notion of fixed ability, knowledge, or labour.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492886571 122300175,122339465,2017-04-22 18:44:14,">>122339186 this",,Anonymous,1432302416123.jpg,W6Xm1k9TT7PY7frflaaQrg==,GB,,1492886654 122300175,122339701,2017-04-22 18:45:48,">>122339240 Just more of this deluded autism. Why do libertarians/ancaps always try to act tough? It's so cringe. You realize while you go around posting pictures of a commie being thrown out of a heli - national socialism actually has tens of millions of commie deaths under its belt? That the ideology is the definition of "" physical removal "" ? http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1490259127811.webm",,Adolf Hitler,88.jpg,MZRg0ahTmK5mDlRDbNhY5w==,CA,,1492886748 122300175,122339782,2017-04-22 18:46:23,">>122339148 >but I don't think I could get a job What you mean is you are too lazy. Are you implying that there is no one currently in the Canadian workforce with less ability than you?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492886783 122300175,122339806,2017-04-22 18:46:36,">>122339148 Job market would improve, wealth would increase, productivity would rise. You'd get a job if you want, or don't get a job and watch and the costs of living go down tremendously anyway. You would only not be allowed to force people who don't like do-nothings to associate with you or accommodate you. There would be no reason for the former cartels (now legal drug selling companies) to aggress against you. They would already have invested in social reputation as any business does.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492886796 122300175,122340228,2017-04-22 18:49:44,">>122339701 Anything Nazi is government socialism. Socialism the redistribution of wealth from the productive superiors to unproductive inferiors. Socialism works for the benefit of the government while pauperising the folk.",,Anonymous,1487281671210.png,Qwszt9Py2Ku0oZvyZtPPxA==,NL,,1492886984 122300175,122340775,2017-04-22 18:53:50,">>122303440 Explain to me again how fascism is any different to communism, and why I won't be launching you out the side of a Chinook?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492887230 122300175,122340801,2017-04-22 18:54:07,">>122339701 If Hitler had been slightly less autistic, he could have been a legit anti-communist hero for destroying the Soviet Union. There were Russian villagers who initially welcomed the Nazis as liberators from Stalin, at least until the Nazis started killing them. If not for the senseless massacres, you might have had a situation where Russians would be willingly defecting to the Wehrmacht in very large numbers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492887247 122300175,122341424,2017-04-22 18:58:55,">>122340228 Yes it is economic authoritarianism and if a man is unemployed the government will then redistribute wealth to create employment for him via public works. And there is a large taxation in order to fund birth rates and support women in there responsibility and duty to raise many children. Private property and the free market is still utilized for the most part. http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492901880903.webm",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492887535 122300175,122341709,2017-04-22 19:01:05,">>122340801 They did. There was a Russian Liberation Army. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army Germany had a better track record of creating an army out of defectors than America ever did in any of its communist conflicts.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492887665 122300175,122341838,2017-04-22 19:02:09,">>122341424 >government will then redistribute wealth to create employment for him via public works. The fuck is this keynesian trash",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492887729 122300175,122341953,2017-04-22 19:03:03,>>122341424,,Anonymous,human_action.jpg,Q8ekXgUEjKBWCf1xPi+15g==,NL,,1492887783 122300175,122342326,2017-04-22 19:06:07,">>122341953 Please. Just linking a book cover is not an argument.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492887967 122300175,122342537,2017-04-22 19:07:54,">>122341838 In our current system the unemployed men are simply given welfare and this is unacceptable for men.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492888074 122300175,122342865,2017-04-22 19:10:38,">>122342326 >why do you want me to read a 1000 pages essay about How my economic plan don't work ? He means that He knows that you're theory is bullshit Also How can there be ""free""-market with high taxation,nationalisation of means of pro...of industry (I forgot you pretend not being commies) and regulation about if The state approve your products or not ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492888238 122300175,122342915,2017-04-22 19:11:06,">>122342326 You can't calculate prices in socialism, you dip. That's why it doesn't work. Contracting goes down, maintenance of old and creation of new infrastructures go down as a result of added costs and consumption and capital waste rises. The government can not create jobs and for every job it ""creates"" a few dozen are lost.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1492888266 122300175,122343705,2017-04-22 19:17:25,>>122306821,,Anonymous,1492105684148.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,GB,,1492888645 122300175,122343852,2017-04-22 19:18:35,">>122342865 It's a regulated market. You see bouncing between arguing with communists who accuse us of being free market bourgeois capitalists and then back to ancaps accusing us of being absolute socialists I do tend to misspeak on how each ideology views these terms.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492888715 122300175,122343858,2017-04-22 19:18:37,">>122342537 Instead I will be racketed so he could paint a road Yay",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492888717 122300175,122344004,2017-04-22 19:19:46,">>122343852 A free market isn't fucking regulated it's The exact opposite",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492888786 122300175,122344552,2017-04-22 19:24:12,">>122344004 Then a free market is impossible unless you think there should be no regulations whatsoever. In reality, capitalism is robust enough to survive a few regulations here and there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889052 122300175,122344818,2017-04-22 19:26:25,">>122343852 You are a socialist both in name and in practice",,Anonymous,28dbb72f776fd9278bef377bd8937e41.jpg,YHoaJ4KjeviXRioBAC8agw==,NL,,1492889185 122300175,122344910,2017-04-22 19:27:15,">>122342915 >>122343858 Yes. Labor is more valuable than capital and capital must be used to ensure labor is always being utilized so the people remain in appropriate working shape and capability constantly. If the free market has masses of people unemployed this is simply unacceptable they have to be working. http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492903609455.webm",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492889235 122300175,122344972,2017-04-22 19:27:43,">>122344552 If you own a nuclear plant,you should know that throwing your waste randomly is retarded Common sense works",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492889263 122300175,122345325,2017-04-22 19:30:35,">>122344972 So to be clear, you're advocating that all regulations regarding nuclear reactors, as well as the storage and disposal of nuclear waste products, should be completely repealed? If that's your intention, then congratulations, you're a lunatic.",,Anonymous,pink girl.jpg,h+4ukR63lzQWDOaofO4oWQ==,US,,1492889435 122300175,122345326,2017-04-22 19:30:35,">>122344910 >Labor is more valuable than capital 1/Labor has no value,if it wasn't The case you should have payed your mother for making your breakfast when you were a kid 2/value is always subjective",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492889435 122300175,122345366,2017-04-22 19:30:53,">>122344818 You can say that. On the other hand there will be communists/marxists and strasserists who say otherwise. It doesn't matter we're a political ideology not an economic ideology and we'll utilize both economic systems as seen fit by the leadership. Race is our imperative, not materialism which is the case for commies and libertarians.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492889453 122300175,122345396,2017-04-22 19:31:04,">>122344910 >If the free market has masses of people unemployed this is simply unacceptable they have to be working. And who pays this? You simply end up in a scenario in which goods aren't allocated efficiently at the market solution and mass government debt. The Nazi Economy at the start of the war had a larger debt than GDP by about 10 billion Resichsmarks.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492889464 122300175,122345571,2017-04-22 19:32:32,">>122345325 You are The lunatic here thinking you need a law for every responsability you have on your actions Next time there should a law to breathe so there won't be cases of asphyxia",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492889552 122300175,122345620,2017-04-22 19:32:55,">>122302593 Just pathetic. Go be an edgy faggot someone where else. You are as retarded as communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889575 122300175,122345701,2017-04-22 19:33:39,">>122337651 I'm only TOP, boi.",,Anonymous,2.jpg,YDS5DzaBhUHTrdicJ0RwwQ==,BR,,1492889619 122300175,122345754,2017-04-22 19:34:07,">>122345325 Yeah, the regulation is, again, private property. You create negative externalities on other people's lives or property? Get ready to be sued.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492889647 122300175,122345787,2017-04-22 19:34:28,">>122345325 >le doomsday negative externalities argument again We had this discussion yesterday m9. Private property would solve for this.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492889668 122300175,122345815,2017-04-22 19:34:45,">>122345396 What do you mean who pays it? There was taxable wealth in Germany who were subordinated to the state and more or less willing to make these sacrifices demanded by Hitler. Everyone was made to understand sacrifice was a core tenant of national socialism. http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492904034080.webm",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492889685 122300175,122345839,2017-04-22 19:34:56,">>122335107 YAAAA DEMOCRACY IS SUCH A GREAT SYSTEM FUCK YAAAA But seriously though, this is a national socialist board. Please stop violating the NAP and go back to whatever sub reddit you came from.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889696 122300175,122346011,2017-04-22 19:36:41,">>122345754 So if I'm storing massive amounts of radioactive waste in a hideously unsafe manner, that's okay, so long as I do it on ""my"" property?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889801 122300175,122346172,2017-04-22 19:38:04,">>122344972 But its a lot cheaper to throw the waste in the rivers than it is to properly dispose of it. Profit matters more and the amount of money they will save is worth destroying the property of 10 people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889884 122300175,122346208,2017-04-22 19:38:20,">>122345815 Precisely, individuals were taxed at 40%, firms at 40%, and even that wasn't enough. Where is the freedom in that? Why should some parasite who the market doesn't value be propped up by my money? Nazi cucks were the ultimate social justice warriors.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492889900 122300175,122346252,2017-04-22 19:38:46,">>122345754 In an ancap society, there is no government and therefore no legal system. You cannot ""sue"" anybody.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889926 122300175,122346325,2017-04-22 19:39:26,">>122322876 Mined like any other. That's subject to change, though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889966 122300175,122346382,2017-04-22 19:39:52,">>122346011 If a guy dies by radiactivity and not under you property then you can getting sued by private courts >inb4 DUH I control The army,gun,courts monopoly",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492889992 122300175,122346509,2017-04-22 19:40:52,">>122346011 Are you causing externalities or are you just intoxicating yourself? I would think that this is an obvious follow up thought... >>122346252 Not this again please. You motherfucker have been here all day long asking the same questions and ignoring the replies, show genuine intention to learn and you shall be answered.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492890052 122300175,122346510,2017-04-22 19:40:52,">>122346382 A private court has no legal backing. Any verdict will be safely ignored.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492890052 122300175,122346638,2017-04-22 19:41:51,">>122346510 A business lives and dies by its reputation. They would have no customers.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492890111 122300175,122346655,2017-04-22 19:42:02,">>122346172 Not if it's not your river And if it was your river it would be smarter to Sell water than to put radioctive shit Also you can have enough money to divide an atom but not for a sterile bunker ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492890122 122300175,122346671,2017-04-22 19:42:09,">>122344818 >stateless society Your an actual communist. You know that anarchism was originally a communist idea after they realized communism always leads to oppressive states. You are no different then communists in fighting for some dream world that will only exist if everybody worked to achieve this dream world and followed a set of guidelines of their own free will. its as stupid as thinking everyone will willfully give up things they do not need to help the poor and achieve communism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492890129 122300175,122346761,2017-04-22 19:43:06,">>122346208 I will speak on the condition assuming you are white, Germanic or Celtic. - Where is the freedom in that? Where is the freedom? Do you realize our people are on the verge of extinction? That extinction is coming? It matters not our individual lives in this span of the millenia our race has existed. Perhaps a time comes in the far future that such struggles have somehow been eternally overcome but the time is simply not now as extinction just as ever is on the door step. And you're worried about your individual? http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492904550820.webm",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492890186 122300175,122346788,2017-04-22 19:43:16,">>122346509 Why would anybody obey contracts if there is no government to enforce them? Why would anybody obey a contract with no legal backing? It doesn't make any sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492890196 122300175,122346876,2017-04-22 19:44:07,">>122346655 But water is cheap as fuck so actually you'd still make more profit disposing it in that river. And you don't have to own the entire river just a small part of it, dump it there and it will naturally flow with the river. You are retarded. Like a communist all you can do is come up with non sensical excuses about why things wouldn't happen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492890247 122300175,122346931,2017-04-22 19:44:33,">>122346671 Not a single argument in this entire body of text and I don't think you know what communism is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492890273 122300175,122346955,2017-04-22 19:44:50,">>122346510 Yeah Don't reimbourse you credit to The bank and borrow to another bank,there is no way the other bank could be informed by The previous one that you can't manage ressources Reputation is important in a free market",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492890290 122300175,122347085,2017-04-22 19:45:56,">>122346638 Yeah dude, if they don't like my nuclear power plant, they can just spend literally millions of dollars to build their own. Actually, even if they did build their own nuclear power plant, that wouldn't really solve the problem. The ""problem"" in this scenario is my unsafe storage methods, and nobody even knows about those except me and my employees. And thankfully, there is no government around to investigate that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492890356 122300175,122347219,2017-04-22 19:47:15,">>122346876 How is throwing waste more profitable than selling water retard ? Also >Like a communist all you can do is come up with non sensical excuses about why things wouldn't happen. Sorry to have counter-arguments for your bullshit monsieur The genius who knows-it-all and if you disagree you're a fagget",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492890435 122300175,122347335,2017-04-22 19:48:11,">>122346761 Yes, this is /lrg/. One of (my) core principles as a Minarchist is border enforcement so the extinction you speak of would never happen. I don't need some statist in my life telling me what I can't and can't do. Any authoritarian government ultimately leads to war or genocide, a path much more dangerous for your Germanics or Celts. A look back to 1939 should tell you all you need to know - your Fuhrer managed to kill off more whites than anyone before him yet you preach about white extinction. Fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492890491 122300175,122347358,2017-04-22 19:48:28,">>122347085 >implying there won't be leaks You should work for The CIA",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492890508 122300175,122347421,2017-04-22 19:49:08,">>122346788 Because everyone is just like going to be good people and follow the guidelines. They aren't rules or laws because fuck rules and laws. Every single person on the planet will magically follow these guidelines of their own will or we will gang up on them and kill them (if we want to, nobody is really forcing you to fight them though) Trust me they would totally do it. I mean pretty much everybody alive in the world right now is willing to die for their beliefs right? Nobody would ever sell out their morals for a comfortable life on an exotic beach mansion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492890548 122300175,122347520,2017-04-22 19:49:59,">>122346788 You think people would sign contracts without provisions for conflict resolution? And maybe you didn't even think for once that these conflict resolution arbitrators will have the capability of enforcing the contracts, either by escrow or by acceptance of being subjected to force? Who are you going to call if you decide to be an outlaw? Nobody would defend you. *In b4 what if Im the richest man alive and nobody can even war against me and I keep earning money even though I dgaf about law and people hate me but they keep buying everything i produce",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492890599 122300175,122347523,2017-04-22 19:50:01,">>122346655 How about this? I buried the waste under another piece of land. Not very deep, but deep enough to prevent it from being easily detected. I then sold that land to somebody else without telling them about the waste. What happens then? In real-life, this would be completely and utterly illegal, and I'd be in huge trouble if the waste were ever discovered. But in Ancapistan? Perfectly legal.",,Anonymous,1491007571768.jpg,bzq6gX1OXB5qnFgSnY8DWA==,US,,1492890601 122300175,122347539,2017-04-22 19:50:10,">>122347085 >there's only one nuclear power plant company in the world >another fictitious scenario in which some firm (read: individuals) has a monopoly over the only power source for everyone else",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492890610 122300175,122347645,2017-04-22 19:51:05,">>122347335 >minarchist Taxation is theft, commie. You have no right to steal my money just because you want a big daddy government to give you ""free"" military and police. Into the helicopter you go!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492890665 122300175,122347706,2017-04-22 19:51:38,">>122346931 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492890698 122300175,122347741,2017-04-22 19:52:01,">>122347645 You've finally got me, well done.",,Anonymous,14482348645735.png,Hgp+Xbe9BgriKvecMhYbSg==,GB,,1492890721 122300175,122347853,2017-04-22 19:52:57,">>122347335 Do you know how deluded you look when you make the argument that Hitler is to blame for white extinction or something along that theme? Surely?",,Adolf Hitler,i blame.png,iPqwsvjSZ7Qcc1sDNj3TJA==,CA,,1492890777 122300175,122347992,2017-04-22 19:54:17,,,Anonymous,Natural monopoly.png,pB4hqGZp98trULGAAdBR8A==,US,,1492890857 122300175,122348167,2017-04-22 19:55:50,">>122303440 Libertarian's have Stockholm-syndrome with rich kikes and should be eliminated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492890950 122300175,122348202,2017-04-22 19:56:00,">>122347853 >G-Germany invades Poland >Germany occupies Sudetenland and basically puppets Slovakia >Germany attempts a coup in Austria >Germany eventually annexes Austria >Germany claims the Free City of Danzig is German, so they invade Poland, because reasons. >Germany refused to leave once Britain and France begged them to so they could avoid war. >Germany doesn't leave, and attacks France even though France hadn't even fought. >Germany invades Neutral Belgium after invading France, a country that wasn't fighting Germany in any sense of the word. >Germany encircles BEF and French troops and tries to wipe out 300k troops trapped in Dunkirk >BEF and French troops escape, then Germany offer peace, but not before: >Germany invades neutral Netherlands >Germany invades neutral Denmark >Germany invades neutral Norway >""hurdur British Jew scum for fighting the Germans and not letting Germany have their way with Europe"" Naziboos are the most infuriating and pathetic people on the planet.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492890960 122300175,122348219,2017-04-22 19:56:07,">>122347520 >Who are you going to call if you decide to be an outlaw? How could I ever be an outlaw? In Ancapistan, there is no law. I can't break laws if there are no laws.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492890967 122300175,122348425,2017-04-22 19:58:05,">>122348219 but da NAP!!!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492891085 122300175,122348523,2017-04-22 19:58:53,">>122346955 >Reputation is important in a free market It's important in almost any kind of system, really. But reputation alone doesn't prevent people from doing bad things, otherwise we'd already have a crime rate of 0.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891133 122300175,122348532,2017-04-22 19:59:00,">>122347219 Because its easier to throw wast into water and ruin the water than it is to properly dispose of the water you dumb fucking retard. You do realize that this is what real live companies have done in real life because water cost 2 cents a gallon and properly disposing of nuclear wast costs 50 thousand a year. Not to mention its a fucking rivers so everybody who owned it would be selling water as well. Bam you just destroyed all the competition. You're actually retarded aren't you? You're counter arguments are nothing but ""nu uh selling water for 10k a year will make you more money than saving 100k a year on dumping waste into the water and destroying the water selling business of everyone living on that river. While were on this point what happens when I buy the majority of a river in a desert upstream and the source. Then I can containment The very bottom half of the river or make a damn ensuring the only source of water is from me. Whats stopping me from raising the cost of water in this town to unreasonable heights and killing half the population.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891140 122300175,122348637,2017-04-22 19:59:54,">>122347523 >Hmhm...there was no infos about The nuclear waste underground >dring...dring (this is supposed to be a phone number) >dude gimme back my cash or I put a bounty on your head and drag your ass to the private court >HAHA I am subscribed to Mattis Entreprise you can't send your...what ? You won't protect me if there was a fraud ? Lift your ass and let them invistigate you or we leave ? >few weeks later >you are fined for six gorillions for hiding nuclear waste,you should have invested in solar energy goyim And a jackass deserved it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492891194 122300175,122348654,2017-04-22 20:00:05,">>122348219 Anarcho capitalism is by definition a society of private law.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492891205 122300175,122348674,2017-04-22 20:00:15,">>122347992 Define them as you see fit but it doesn't change the fact that hundreds of private nuclear power plants already exist throughout the world.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492891215 122300175,122348760,2017-04-22 20:00:59,">>122348202 What does "" Germany have their way with Europe "" mean exactly? Are you deluded as hell? Look at modern Europe. We would have none of these foreign races here at all if Germany "" had its way "" Yet look at your degenerate Anglo/Yid world we have now. Do people still actually defend the allied victory on this website? Britian should have joined the axis and this entire modern degenerate world would have been averted.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492891259 122300175,122348850,2017-04-22 20:01:51,">>122348532 >Because its easier to throw wast into water and ruin the water than it is to properly dispose of the water you dumb fucking retard. You didn't said easier,but profitable burger",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492891311 122300175,122348854,2017-04-22 20:01:53,">>122348637 Who is going to fine me? The non-existent government? And who is going to arrest me if I refuse to pay? The non-existent police?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891313 122300175,122348871,2017-04-22 20:02:02,">>122347520 This makes no sense. Who is going to with hold the contract? Just a bunch of random people? Why should they hold you accountable when they get nothing in return. Oh yea everybody is such a neighbor that they would risk their lives to enforce a contract they get nothing out of for free.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891322 122300175,122348872,2017-04-22 20:02:02,">>122347992 This definition is absurd, in Camboya a bread store might be a natural monopoly according to this.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492891322 122300175,122349098,2017-04-22 20:04:01,">>122348637 >dude gimme back my cash or I put a bounty on your head and drag your ass to the private court No fuck you. I'm going to spend the money you just gave me for that house to buy a private army or assassin to kill you before you do the same.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891441 122300175,122349104,2017-04-22 20:04:03,">>122348871 Of course they get something in return. I've used countless of private-law services as a freelancer, you give a commission in exchange for a guaranteed satisfactory contractual enforcement.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492891443 122300175,122349113,2017-04-22 20:04:11,">>122348872 Take it up with Investopedia, chump. I'm quite certain they know more than you do. >>122348871 Just wait. They're going to start babbling that insurance companies will magical ""enforce"" non-existent laws that nobody ever agreed to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891451 122300175,122349126,2017-04-22 20:04:17,">>122348854 a private judge You know Jack shit about ancapism don't you ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492891457 122300175,122349317,2017-04-22 20:06:05,">>122349126 It's fair to assume that the owner of a nuclear power plant would have quite a large income, correct? So then it is also fair to assume that the owner of a nuclear power plant would easily be able to afford a quite favorable judge who would see things his way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891565 122300175,122349344,2017-04-22 20:06:18,">>122349113 >Appeal to authority I assume you have no argument left?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492891578 122300175,122349385,2017-04-22 20:06:40,">>122349098 Your private army won't spend a jack shit of money for an unuseful war where you were The wrongdoer and would invite you to grow some balls and go to The court,that's what I was greetexting",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492891600 122300175,122349420,2017-04-22 20:07:03,">>122348850 its easier thus more profitable. This is basic economics frog. Doctors wouldn't be getting so much money if anybody with a knife could perform surgery.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891623 122300175,122349507,2017-04-22 20:07:47,">>122349126 > a private judge",,Adolf Hitler,banter stops.jpg,luUk+SHjvltne4/7R+DwUw==,CA,,1492891667 122300175,122349529,2017-04-22 20:07:56,">>122349344 You never had any argument besides ""I don't like the definition."" That's fine. You can disagree with the definition. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with your disagreement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891676 122300175,122349540,2017-04-22 20:07:59,">>122349317 Didn't knew that judges don't know that nuclear is radioactive",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492891679 122300175,122349672,2017-04-22 20:09:02,">>122349529 No, I didn't just say ""I don't like the definition"", I gave you an example of something that renders the definition absurd. Stop being disingenuous.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492891742 122300175,122349675,2017-04-22 20:09:02,">>122349507 I know right? They're fucking idiots.",,Anonymous,1490389889601.gif,YmIy91OUTYYXuTJl930vjw==,US,,1492891742 122300175,122349767,2017-04-22 20:09:45,"NEW >>122349702",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492891785 122300175,122349887,2017-04-22 20:10:47,">>122349675 >ad hominem Grow some balls",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492891847 122300175,122349967,2017-04-22 20:11:34,">>122349104 Who is going to pay them? And how are these private law services going to ensure anything. >I'l build this house for if you give me 100k >Sign contract >never build house >run off and spend all 100k on prostitutes I hope you being reimbursed in blood is acceptable. Or is slavery legal in this society? Maybe he pay back his debt by being your slave. What a great idea how could debt slavery ever go wrong in society. Just be careful you don't break a 5 million dollar glass cup the next time you go to a restaurant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891894 122300175,122350450,2017-04-22 20:15:35,">>122349344 Appeal to authority is different from telling you to look up the definition of the word. Telling you that apples are in fact fruits according to the dictionary is not an appeal to authority dumb pollack. Oh and thats not an argument. You know your ideology is shit when every time its argued it comes down to arguments over what defines an argument and definitions of words.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492892135 122300175,122350797,2017-04-22 20:18:08,">>122349507 >>122349675 Are you unaware of Brehon law that existed for 1000 years? It worked fine and was entirely privatised. We know form history that private law works perfectly fine and we have examples today that show private arbitration is a perfectly functional system. Judge Judy is private arbitration. The two of you are horrendously ignorant, yet willing to promote your ideas. How are you comfortable with this?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492892288 122345018,122345018,2017-04-22 19:28:05,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY Libertarian/pol Discord: https://discord.gg/TvUctU9",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Libertarian_pol.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1492889285 122345018,122345059,2017-04-22 19:28:24,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889304 122345018,122345106,2017-04-22 19:28:47,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889327 122345018,122345286,2017-04-22 19:30:09,Bump,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492889409 122345018,122345328,2017-04-22 19:30:36,libertarians are gay.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889436 122345018,122345348,2017-04-22 19:30:44,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889444 122345018,122345720,2017-04-22 19:33:49,">>122345018 wtf I hate roads now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492889629 122349702,122349702,2017-04-22 20:09:14,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Nazis fail to grip the concept of freedom edition,Anonymous,1491690706678.png,jAsaVUuqz9B7cektaoYAMw==,GB,,1492891754 122349702,122349853,2017-04-22 20:10:28,,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492891828 122349702,122349882,2017-04-22 20:10:46,">>122349702 >>122349672 The definition is valid and I don't care if you disagree. The real world does not conform to your retarded ideology. Deal with it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492891846 122349702,122349981,2017-04-22 20:11:41,">>122349882 Could say the same thing about NatSoc",,Anonymous,image.jpg,NXuI4OMUlrJbKPIf457sZA==,FR,,1492891901 122349702,122349988,2017-04-22 20:11:44,first for no-steppy snek,,Anonymous,image.jpg,W90blk3C2S+gaYAX8vMxGg==,GB,,1492891904 122349702,122350117,2017-04-22 20:12:43,>>122349988,,Anonymous,1492365129299.jpg,8HrPFAGAiSxAYhjM1M6pmg==,GB,,1492891963 122349702,122350256,2017-04-22 20:13:57,">>122349882 No it's not valid because I gave you a fucking example that renders it absurd. Is a bread store in Camboya a natural monopoly according to that definition of natural monopoly? Yes. Is the idea that a bread store can be a natural monoply absurd? I doubt anyone would disagree.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492892037 122349702,122350512,2017-04-22 20:16:01,">>122349702 In Ancapistan, what prevents a lumber company from chopping down the entire rainforest, thus depriving the entire world of oxygen? >>122350256 You can't just redefine words to serve your ideology.",,Anonymous,deforestation-causes-HI_104236.jpg,OVE3JCX6E/y2Tce9ZCpgTg==,US,,1492892161 122349702,122350809,2017-04-22 20:18:15,">>122350512 >In Ancapistan, what prevents a lumber company from chopping down the entire rainforest, thus depriving the entire world of oxygen?",,Anonymous,1492636391409.png,tgyOOFO0oyhOkasfbMB/KA==,GB,,1492892295 122349702,122350996,2017-04-22 20:19:39,">>122349967 I said it in the first post you quoted, either by escrow: >You put the money in the hands of the intermediary, when the house is finished, the intermediary releases the funds to the constructor. Or by acceptance to be subject to prosecution and exposition to force, in which case you would be giving legitimacy to violence against you. >You sign that your assets are collateral, and the arbitrator has the strength to make sure this is acceptable. >>122350450 Appeal to authority is when you use arguments and someone tells you others know better. Definitions can be wrong, that one certainly is absurd.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492892379 122349702,122351101,2017-04-22 20:20:32,">>122350512 well, not how air and trees work, but also it's stupid to think that people smart enough to live in anarchy are also stupid enough to destroy trees",,Anonymous,ancap.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,US,,1492892432 122349702,122351161,2017-04-22 20:21:03,">>122350512 >You can't just redefine words to serve your ideology. You can't just tell me look at this definition that demonstrates a nuclear plant is a natural monopoly when this specific definition is so broad you could argue everything is a natural monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492892463 122349702,122351226,2017-04-22 20:21:28,">>122350809 20% of the world's oxygen comes from the Amazon rainforest, bro. That's 1 out of 5. The number gets even higher if you include the other rainforests in equation. But I wouldn't expect an ancap to understand science, or math.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492892488 122349702,122351354,2017-04-22 20:22:34,">>122350512 In a Minarchistan, the citizens could elect to outlaw cutting down all the trees. Minarchy is the best system, it still has a strong rule of law, but still all the personal freedoms and degeneracy that National Socialism outlaws. If you aren't hurting anybody, you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want. Cutting down all the trees obviously hurts everyone",,Anonymous,Skrekt.jpg,n9W384CO90R+YvPCqBrIQw==,CA,,1492892554 122349702,122351357,2017-04-22 20:22:35,">private judge KEK What can he judge he has no more authority than any other man. This is like saying PI's are the same as detectives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492892555 122349702,122351404,2017-04-22 20:23:04,">>122351226 >telling a capitalist he doesn't understand math",,Anonymous,snek.jpg,IFkBlBvMXtXsXjhF+SIc2g==,US,,1492892584 122349702,122351490,2017-04-22 20:23:43,">>122351357 >That guy dressed in black just said that was a goal >He must be the state",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492892623 122349702,122351609,2017-04-22 20:24:41,">>122351101 You didn't answer the question. If a lumber company decides to cut down all the trees, who stops them? >>122351354 All of my arguments are geared specifically towards ancaps. If you're arguing from a minarchist stand-point, then I'm sorry for the confusion.",,Anonymous,this-is-not-fine-009-a7b6e6.png,7bSNAfnnvWNLA4iZoZ2w+A==,US,,1492892681 122349702,122351615,2017-04-22 20:24:44,">>122349702 >>122349882 >>122349981 >>122350256 >>122350512 Which one of Hoppe's books does /lrg/ suggest I read first?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492892684 122349702,122351778,2017-04-22 20:26:03,">>122351226 If oxygen somehow didn't become a free good then a market for oxygen would be created.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492892763 122349702,122351803,2017-04-22 20:26:18,">>122351615 Democracy the god that failed",,Anonymous,IMG_20170211_195504.jpg,bWSmO20//Ds9izvXN+JgeA==,MT,,1492892778 122349702,122351812,2017-04-22 20:26:27,So what prevents me from buying huge sections of a river up stream then creating a dam on my property blocking the river ensuring i have a monopoly on all the water in the desert?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492892787 122349702,122351872,2017-04-22 20:27:00,">>122351490 If he has no legal authority, then why would anybody care about his judgements?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492892820 122349702,122351939,2017-04-22 20:27:36,">>122351803 Noice.",,Anonymous,comfy.jpg,sHgogqWCRq15plNk9R71Uw==,GB,,1492892856 122349702,122352020,2017-04-22 20:28:18,">>122351490 >not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492892898 122349702,122352024,2017-04-22 20:28:20,">>122351872 Because they decided to partake in a specific interaction that requires arbitration, and therefore they voluntarily expose themselves to his judgement.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492892900 122349702,122352062,2017-04-22 20:28:42,">>122351778 >a market for oxygen would be created. Oh wonderful. So now I have to pay bills to Oxygen Mart for the privilege of breathing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492892922 122349702,122352081,2017-04-22 20:28:53,">>122351803 >and he sips wew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492892933 122349702,122352138,2017-04-22 20:29:21,">>122351615 Democracy is accessible and interesting.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492892961 122349702,122352250,2017-04-22 20:30:31,">>122351101 >people need to be smart to live in anarchy. Explain Africa? >hur dur everybody will magically be smart in my society. >implying smart people won't cut down trees because they don't give a shit about future generations and know that cutting these trees down will ensure their own happiness",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893031 122349702,122352288,2017-04-22 20:30:51,"come here guys http://ancapistan.com/",,Anonymous,13179329_1624385027884556_5703579232790080076_n.jpg,PJG4O3HdwWlJKgdaT8i5tw==,BR,,1492893051 122349702,122352289,2017-04-22 20:30:52,">>122352024 >Because they decided to partake in a specific interaction that requires arbitration Who decides what actions require arbitration and what actions do not require arbitration? Furthermore, arbitration isn't legally binding. I can completely ignore the results if I want to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893052 122349702,122352359,2017-04-22 20:31:25,">>122351404 >he thinks you need to understand math to know economics What a special snowfake you must be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893085 122349702,122352369,2017-04-22 20:31:28,">>122352250 >Explain Africa? Africans don't live in anarchy.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492893088 122349702,122352406,2017-04-22 20:31:49,">>122349702 >2017 >not being a Distributist",,Anonymous,emj.jpg,erwYc6bg2IFZnvwEPY9oQA==,US,,1492893109 122349702,122352454,2017-04-22 20:32:16,">>122352062 As you do for many other forms of survival - unless you live off the land anon?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492893136 122349702,122352469,2017-04-22 20:32:22,"Their on the right track, but they need to lurk /pol/ and read more. Much more redpilled than you're average person but in order to do anything effective, they need to be less abrasive and sort themselves out.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1492893142 122349702,122352509,2017-04-22 20:32:47,">>122351803 Embrace fascism. Having no government is retarded and will never work. It will always just result in many tiny monarchies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893167 122349702,122352523,2017-04-22 20:32:53,why don't Libertarians just call themselves Gay Weed Commandos,,Anonymous,1489807226545.jpg,vslPrGA7Iqh3j634bulmcQ==,US,,1492893173 122349702,122352563,2017-04-22 20:33:13,">>122352369 There are rainforests in Africa, though. If somebody decides to chop all the trees down, who stops them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893193 122349702,122352601,2017-04-22 20:33:37,">>122352523 >American intellectuals",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492893217 122349702,122352630,2017-04-22 20:33:55,">>122352289 >Who decides what actions require arbitration and what actions do not require arbitration? People. I need to do this, but I want to be safe, let's search for arbitration. Also, private cities will most likely offer ""law enforcement"" packages. >Furthermore, arbitration isn't legally binding. I can completely ignore the results if I want to. Contracts are legally binding, yes.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492893235 122349702,122352693,2017-04-22 20:34:26,">>122352563 if the aliens come to earth and murder all of us... anarcho capitalism done",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492893266 122349702,122352736,2017-04-22 20:34:48,">>122352454 For starters, if oxygen ever became scarce enough to become a saleable commodity, I'm pretty sure the ecosystem would perish before anybody had an opportunity to monetize it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893288 122349702,122352802,2017-04-22 20:35:23,">>122352062 Fuck taxation though. Its theft >>122352454 >implying anybody will own land You'll just be renting land from one of the ten jewish land owners.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893323 122349702,122352812,2017-04-22 20:35:31,,,Anonymous,1492704073231.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,BE,,1492893331 122349702,122352882,2017-04-22 20:36:09,">>122352509 Fascism will never work for longer than 10 years and will always create a tremendous knee-jerk reaction. You cannot give power to the state and then believe it will always use it in your interest. Real private property and economical migration is the only way to maintain a moral society without oppression, and therefore without knee-jerk reactions or without legitimacy to dismantle it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492893369 122349702,122352898,2017-04-22 20:36:18,">>122352630 And what if I simply refuse arbitration? You can't force me to arbitration without violating your precious NAP, so I'm safe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893378 122349702,122352979,2017-04-22 20:37:02,">>122352898 Then people will refuse to interact with you. Good luck with your business!",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492893422 122349702,122353143,2017-04-22 20:38:17,">>122351226 And yet with all the crying about increases of CO2 in the atmosphere, never any mention of decreases on O2.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893497 122349702,122353191,2017-04-22 20:38:38,"Libertarianism is a great system, provided everybody follows the rules. Arguing for anarchy is pretty stupid, almost as stupid as the socialists who think we can all work together for an all encompassing state. >We all need to come together man, kumbaya, profits are evil comrade Central planning is stupid. Minarchy Libertarian is the best system",,Anonymous,CommieScum.png,wk3GV7OOeQzKgAVHPZxZxA==,CA,,1492893518 122349702,122353234,2017-04-22 20:39:00,"What's with the hate for Johnson in the OP ? Sure he was a weak candidate but he WAS a candidate. It's not like we are falling over the massive crowds of qualified people running as libertarians (for the LP, independent, or otherwise).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893540 122349702,122353279,2017-04-22 20:39:26,">>122352630 Contracts are only legally binding if there is a government to back the contract. >People Not going to happen. About as realistic as the peoples communist revolution taking place. >private cities What stops these cities from building a wall around their city, raising the rent to a ridicoulus high rate then turning them all into debt slaves, excluding the police force which will each get 2 free debt slaves for themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893566 122349702,122353302,2017-04-22 20:39:38,">>122352563 This is just an extension of the vigilantism fallacy which has been refuted many a time. You're implying that no one has the ability to plant trees in their own private lands that would suffice the necessary level of oxygen needed for the world. >hurr durr what if everyone planted too many trees and everything started exploding You are also implying that a firm has a monopoly on all the trees and that every private landlord decides to sell to their land to a vigilantic firm. Extreme scenario would be >indoor hub living with regulated oxygen levels like a mall >a market for oxygen",,Anonymous,lrg on vigilantism.png,GiMCotDkA2EJHogCAL7nfg==,GB,,1492893578 122349702,122353306,2017-04-22 20:39:42,">>122351803 By the way, should I paint, diagonally, half of pacman's face in black? Seriously considering it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492893582 122349702,122353314,2017-04-22 20:39:44,">>122352898 if u violate the NAP, u dont have NAP anymore u need to be physically removed from society or life",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492893584 122349702,122353338,2017-04-22 20:39:57,">>122353191 Anarchism is the likely outcome of a more intelligent society.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492893597 122349702,122353393,2017-04-22 20:40:28,">>122349853 MISSING FROM LIST: >No Treason - Lysander Spooner http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm >On Doing the Right Thing - Albert Jay Nock https://www.panarchy.org/nock/rightthing.html >The Abolition of Man - C.S. Lewis http://www.basicincome.com/bp/files/The_Abolition_of_Man-C_S_Lewis.pdf",,Anonymous,f5a3cd60a108ece14811e2da8dd07f7f0021887530594365d87e7bdbb26e81c9.jpg,YEKt2gBGdLsLqRqT59szIA==,US,,1492893628 122349702,122353426,2017-04-22 20:40:43,">>122353191 minarchy is cancer even the son and gradnson of Milton Friedman are ancaps now David Friedman and Patri Friedman",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492893643 122349702,122353530,2017-04-22 20:41:37,"Idealists don't go far Go with wahat is proven",,Anonymous,IMG_0430.png,yMy0MfgqwVzr01ZLGOrfDQ==,US,,1492893697 122349702,122353575,2017-04-22 20:41:58,">>122353279 >Contracts are only legally binding if there is a government to back the contract. That's your opinion. I disagree, contracts are legally binding by themselves. >Not going to happen. About as realistic as the peoples communist revolution taking place. People won't want safety in the interactions with others? Okay. >What stops these cities from building a wall around their city, raising the rent to a ridicoulus high rate then turning them all into debt slaves, excluding the police force which will each get 2 free debt slaves for themselves. Contracts :^)",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492893718 122349702,122353593,2017-04-22 20:42:06,">>122352882 >You cannot give power to the state and then believe it will always use it in your interest. Yes, the state makes mistakes sometimes. So what? An imperfect government is still better than no government at all. >>122352979 You dude, people are just going to ignore the nuclear power planet that they depend on for electricity. They'll keep paying their bills, otherwise I'll cut off their power and leave them in the dark. >>122353143 It actually goes hand-in-hand. Plants take CO2 and convert it into oxygen. So the rainforests actually play a huge role in the earth's eco-system by naturally filtering excess carbon out of the atmosphere. As the rainforest gets cut down smaller, and smaller, oxygen levels will decrease and carbon levels will increase.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893726 122349702,122353616,2017-04-22 20:42:17,"Brazilian ancap here, ask me anything. http://ancapistan.com/",,Anonymous,dont tread on me.png,Q/yAUUWVfSMQWMMlOtQ/YQ==,BR,,1492893737 122349702,122353810,2017-04-22 20:43:57,Glad to see this thread thriving. /lrg/ master race forever. You guys make me proud when you peach the uncucked word of libertarianism.,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag_1.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1492893837 122349702,122353889,2017-04-22 20:44:40,>>122353593,,Anonymous,file.png,fAwvuDFMOmQ6CBNqbQU/1A==,GB,,1492893880 122349702,122353891,2017-04-22 20:44:40,">>122352882 >Fascism will never work for longer than 10 This is just factually wrong and has been proven to be wrong already through out history. >You cannot give power to the state and then believe it will always use it in your interest. You can not give power to the rich and believe they will always do things for your interests. >Real private property and economical migration is the only way to maintain a moral society So wrong. Why do you actually believe this. Every free society to have ever existed will never maintain morality. How is paying rent and taxation any different? How can you ensure that monopolies will not oppress. How can you say that morality will be maintained when profit matters more than anything. You are a jew. >>122351812 Whats preventing this from happening. Why do you faggots always ignore legitimate arguments?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492893880 122349702,122353907,2017-04-22 20:44:48,">>122352406 My man! >Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few",,Anonymous,ad78be6364f841be611bfa33d6db09632a057672839b8716b6629ab946e2d2a5.jpg,z49i0vL97wlYsPBziw+OOQ==,US,,1492893888 122349702,122353932,2017-04-22 20:45:06,">>122350512 Killing yourself is a great move",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492893906 122349702,122353933,2017-04-22 20:45:06,">>122353426 >Partri (((Friedman))) You mean this guy?",,Anonymous,24.jpg,9iiAW0zB5LSXuxQNcPacVw==,CA,,1492893906 122349702,122354001,2017-04-22 20:45:42,">>122353338 >Anarchism is the likely outcome of a more intelligent society. [sarcasm] Yeah dude. Really intelligent people, those anarchists. If we just let anarchists run everything, things would be perfect. [sarcasm]",,Anonymous,59v2ssdi.jpg,T8b1Nb9QWYDcwF6eI7ZjEQ==,US,,1492893942 122349702,122354140,2017-04-22 20:46:49,">>122353891 >You can not give power to the rich and believe they will always do things for your interests. I mean, the rich can't arbitrarily shoot/imprison you, the government can.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894009 122349702,122354273,2017-04-22 20:47:56,">>122353933 ",,Anonymous,920x920.jpg,9SdyXO1RKmPatWWs1f/NPA==,BR,,1492894076 122349702,122354291,2017-04-22 20:48:04,">>122353889 Only 114 for the entire country? That's actually much less than I thought.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894084 122349702,122354311,2017-04-22 20:48:12,">>122354001 >the fucking spiderman mask",,Anonymous,image.jpg,VG9+86/0rekgezoiS9v0Ww==,GB,,1492894092 122349702,122354340,2017-04-22 20:48:24,">>122353191 How can you not see you are exactly the same as communists >we all need to come together man kumbaya, morality and government is evil. Everybody will magically die before they accept an offer to sell out their neighborhood for personal gain. Ephialtes did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894104 122349702,122354387,2017-04-22 20:48:48,">>122354001 Ancoms have a point about the state being illegitimate but they don't respect property rights and will therefore need to be physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894128 122349702,122354414,2017-04-22 20:49:03,">>122354001 they are not anarchiists they are ""anarcho""-statists anarcho-capitalism is the true anarchy",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492894143 122349702,122354493,2017-04-22 20:49:41,Libertarians fail to grip the concept of racial extinction because they aren't white edition,,Adolf Hitler,Hitler 101.jpg,yjKd+SYEzgDstfQFaG7ftg==,CA,,1492894181 122349702,122354494,2017-04-22 20:49:41,">>122354387 >Ancoms have a point about the state being illegitimate No, they don't. All forms of anarchism are stupid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894181 122349702,122354521,2017-04-22 20:49:53,">>122349702 How does /lrg/ feel about conquests of foreign lands?",,Anonymous,1492350876749.jpg,supVCXRiIxuxV93rstw90w==,US,,1492894193 122349702,122354539,2017-04-22 20:50:02,">>122352563 Not personally an AnCap. But presumably resources ought to be preserved by granting ownership of finite resources to certain entities in order to avoid tragedy-of-the-commons scenarios. A single owner (i.e. a monarch, corporation, etc..) with exclusive rights doesn't have the same impetuous to over-exploit that masses of property-less individuals do, because each individual actor has every incentive to have their fill of the resource, to the detriment of other actors.",,Anonymous,Hans Herman Hoppe.jpg,JuH61XS1ow5lFS2OlkG7ZA==,US,,1492894202 122349702,122354612,2017-04-22 20:50:36,">>122354494 How is the state legitimate then?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894236 122349702,122354688,2017-04-22 20:51:18,">>122354493 PHYSICALLY REMOVE non-whites for being impure. Solution is easy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894278 122349702,122354693,2017-04-22 20:51:20,">>122354493 I'm white Brazilian anti mix-race and ancap what's now?",,Anonymous,13101294_1013064625396970_1760209219_n.jpg,NKPmdN7sRvfcs0tWEhcOcw==,BR,,1492894280 122349702,122354794,2017-04-22 20:52:09,">>122354612 Legitimacy is whatever common knowledge says it is. Most people are not to the stage where they think the state is illegitimate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894329 122349702,122354797,2017-04-22 20:52:10,">>122353426 >>122353338 >>122354340 Anarchy is retarded. Look at Montreal's police strike in 1969 if you want a picture of anarchy. There should be a police force that enforces the rules, a judicial system to uphold the law, firemen, national defense, and that's about it. Regulations and subsidies hurt the economy, health care is dumb, roads can be privatized, public education sucks, income tax is unarguably theft. I think USA has a great society, the government just needs to cut it's spending by a large margin. That would be my Utopian society.",,Anonymous,KH02.jpg,MtoMSOVPLiyZJrxnO69HKQ==,CA,,1492894330 122349702,122354825,2017-04-22 20:52:24,">>122354688 Yes glad we can agree on the solution",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492894344 122349702,122354860,2017-04-22 20:52:35,,,Anonymous,xaPNPy5J.jpg,S+FfY3uvrCwfYTdm7UN8ZA==,BE,,1492894355 122349702,122354886,2017-04-22 20:52:46,">>122353575 There is no such thing as legal in your society. Nothing is legally binding. >People won't want safety in the interactions with others? Okay. Thats exactly what they will want which is why nobody is going to risk their own neck to fight someone backed into a corner of starving to death on the street or following a contract. Ancaps are confirmed for retarded. Your society will instantly revert back to monarchs controlling small slivers of land until one day someone will conquer it all by force because nobody can stop them or nobody would be willing to risk stopping them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894366 122349702,122354901,2017-04-22 20:52:51,">>122354494 stupid is worship the state",,Anonymous,shrine_of_the_statists.jpg,f+pxoLiPb4ZO3RB3bit6JA==,BR,,1492894371 122349702,122354999,2017-04-22 20:53:40,">>122354794 Oh yes, legitimacy is democracy, perfect.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894420 122349702,122355014,2017-04-22 20:53:52,">>122354797 In an anarcho-capitalist society, we gonna have dozens of private policy",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492894432 122349702,122355017,2017-04-22 20:53:54,">>122354521 Not our land, not our business for the most part. Unless foreign lands bite us, we won't bite back.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492894434 122349702,122355044,2017-04-22 20:54:07,">>122354001 anarcho syndicalists think that labor unions should be in charge of everything. how is that not a bureaucratic system within itself. Give them enough time and eventually its mafia organizations threatening people for ""union dues"". its no wonder they are a bunch of thugs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894447 122349702,122355088,2017-04-22 20:54:32,">>122354797 This is about me but I'm increasingly exploring the reality of full private property/anarcho-capitalism. The logical conclusions are there it's just hard to envisage that world when you are so used to one of democracy as we have.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492894472 122349702,122355113,2017-04-22 20:54:47,">>122354797 All of those entities can be privatized, anyone who disagrees needs to read ""Machinery of Freedom.""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894487 122349702,122355140,2017-04-22 20:54:56,">>122354999 democracy is a fck cancer",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492894496 122349702,122355166,2017-04-22 20:55:09,">>122354539 >But presumably resources ought to be preserved by granting ownership of finite resources to certain entities in order to avoid tragedy-of-the-commons scenarios. Okay. So you privatize the Amazon rainforest to prevent people from cutting it down. So now a single individual owns the entire Amazon rainforest? I mean, in theory, it would work, but it would require the owner to be somebody who is so utterly committed to conservation that he wouldn't sell even if offered billions of dollars.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894509 122349702,122355202,2017-04-22 20:55:31,">>122354693 You can't be anti-mix race in a liberal freedom loving society because the point is individualism and rights.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492894531 122349702,122355246,2017-04-22 20:55:59,">>122355113 David Friedman masterrace",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,o5tM+gVA1aiE2sFHHhpdug==,BR,,1492894559 122349702,122355251,2017-04-22 20:56:03,LIBERTARIANS ARE RETARDS,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894563 122349702,122355252,2017-04-22 20:56:04,">>122355202 You can but you can't force others to not mix.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894564 122349702,122355320,2017-04-22 20:56:34,">>122352288 that penis in the pacific tho",,Anonymous,1488931575590.png,yB728cAzZ+9Vv0g7/4jkag==,BE,,1492894594 122349702,122355398,2017-04-22 20:57:15,">>122355202 Yes I can in my private city, only white is allowed",,Anonymous,17155641_1272896836111966_2137150569913643271_n.jpg,RiTYkMF0o1k9B0p8mlpdAg==,BR,,1492894635 122349702,122355433,2017-04-22 20:57:32,">>122355251 >>122352601",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492894652 122349702,122355441,2017-04-22 20:57:37,">>122349702 >being a lolbertarian",,Anonymous,1483292621542.png,r54nuGVkcuM623HOHYev5g==,PR,,1492894657 122349702,122355458,2017-04-22 20:57:45,">>122353891 >This is just factually wrong and has been proven to be wrong already through out history. Yep, all the current fascist states will sure attest for it. >You can not give power to the rich and believe they will always do things for your interests. I don't plan on giving power to the rich, I plan on taking it away. >So wrong. Why do you actually believe this. Every free society to have ever existed will never maintain morality. How is paying rent and taxation any different? How can you ensure that monopolies will not oppress. How can you say that morality will be maintained when profit matters more than anything. You are a jew. Anarcho Capitalism is the only viable way to obtain an ethno-state. You're a jew's puppet. >Whats preventing this from happening. Why do you faggots always ignore legitimate arguments? Why would people purchase land with a river if they won't have communal property rights over it? Are you really this dense? I'm starting to figure out why you would hate anarcho capitalism, I honestly believe you would not last very long with this capability of foreseeing conflicts. My sympathies.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492894665 122349702,122355468,2017-04-22 20:57:51,">>122355251 >>122354860 >>122354797 PHYSICALLY REMOVE",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894671 122349702,122355493,2017-04-22 20:58:06,">>122354612 >How is the state legitimate then? Because we, the people, say so. And if we ever, collectively, decided that the state was illegitimate, then the state would cease to be legitimate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894686 122349702,122355520,2017-04-22 20:58:22,">>122355252 Except if you dicriminate mullatoes on your workplace,but that ends here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492894702 122349702,122355573,2017-04-22 20:58:48,">>122355252 Exactly. And so the existence of the race is just as in jeopardy under that system as it is now in fact what at all would be different in an cap than now. There simply does not exist the time to be anything but authoritarian. How many years left as a majority capable of enforcing these strict laws and deportations? 20-40 years?",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492894728 122349702,122355606,2017-04-22 20:59:10,">>122355493 So, democracy then? God you're a cuck.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894750 122349702,122355607,2017-04-22 20:59:09,">>122355246 >(((david friedman))) >(((master race)))",,Anonymous,anarcho-capitalism.jpg,flEWqASdpdOBrndqUTAO9A==,US,,1492894749 122349702,122355627,2017-04-22 20:59:20,">>122354797 >roads can be privatized. Its more economically beneficial for the entire country if they aren't. >public education Your country men would be retarded. Why do you want degeneration? >income tax is unarguably theft No more than rent is. Democracy isn't efficient. Having no government is retarded. Having no market regulations is retarded. The U.S.A is not a great society, its a slave society of jews. Full to the brim with degeneracy. Its greatly romanticized. fascism is our only future.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894760 122349702,122355633,2017-04-22 20:59:21,,,Anonymous,17796189_1304258412975808_2050189729033479693_n.jpg,DrK0VBFF7bCTHjSNIyBGDQ==,BE,,1492894761 122349702,122355782,2017-04-22 21:00:39,">>122354901 Whats truly stupid is worship of currency.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894839 122349702,122355905,2017-04-22 21:01:37,">>122355493 Murray Rothbard - The Government Is Not Us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqoBZLSm1WA",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492894897 122349702,122355930,2017-04-22 21:01:52,">>122355627 >Your country men would be retarded. Why do you want degeneration? Our private catholic schools aren't degenerates,our publics are",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492894912 122349702,122355949,2017-04-22 21:01:59,">>122355627 >Public education Have you ever been to a public school? Your country men are currently retarded. >Income taxation is no more theft than rent You choose to rent a house, you do not choose to be born in a country.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492894919 122349702,122355954,2017-04-22 21:02:02,">>122350512 Almost all of the worlds oxygen supply comes from alge you retard",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492894922 122349702,122356025,2017-04-22 21:02:35,">>122355782 we just defend the private property that's all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqoBZLSm1WA",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492894955 122349702,122356093,2017-04-22 21:03:13,">>122355493 People or ""collectives"" don't act. Individuals do. The notion that there is a ""will of the people"" is nonsense.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492894993 122349702,122356105,2017-04-22 21:03:18,">>122355398 Just wait until a jew buys your private city for 50 billion shekels. Every man has a price.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492894998 122349702,122356413,2017-04-22 21:05:51,">>122355398 I love the delusion that you'd be able to afford your own city. Nobody can do that. Not even Bill Gates has that kind of money. A person with enough money to own an entire city would be a de-facto king. So ancap is tantamount to fuedalism. >>122355954 20% of the world's oxygen comes from the Amazon >>122356093 >People or ""collectives"" don't act. Wrong. Don't you people ever learn? Pic very related.",,Anonymous,1492873295975.gif,ampiKkv8FC0DqhBQkJnMPA==,US,,1492895151 122349702,122356543,2017-04-22 21:07:12,"Statists in this thread: 1) they would buy property that includes rivers without making sure they have rights over it. 2) they would engage in potential conflicting interaction without arbitration 3) They would chop all the trees if they had a private forest, making a quick buck instead of looking for sustainable development 4) They would pay for companies that abuse people and ignore law 5) They would try to run a business being known for not adhering to contractual obligations 6) They don't consider football referees to have authority over who scored a goal and who didn't 7) They believe a bread store in Camboya qualifies for natural monopoly 8) They would voluntarily try to deprive society of oxygen Starting to realize there are people who might need the state, after all. I believe I did my part today boys, see you another day. Nite!",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1492895232 122349702,122356640,2017-04-22 21:08:01,">>122356413 A small city is easy to build if u have enough money. And u can build a city with another ancaps with the same idea, put some private rules and all gonna be nice.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492895281 122349702,122356687,2017-04-22 21:08:31,">>122355949 I've been to public school here and it is at this current point a indoctrination center for leftists. This would not be the case in a fascist society. It would never happen and there would never be any reason for it to happen. Who cares what citizens think. >You choose to rent a house, you do not choose to be born in a country. What happens when the entire world is privately owned. You choose to live in a country. Nothing is stopping you from not paying taxes either. Especially in Canada your government could hardly control its vast territory.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895311 122349702,122356737,2017-04-22 21:08:52,">>122355113 I'll add it to my list, thanks for the reccomendation >>122355088 Yeah, I think you're right - I'm sure those final fringes of government could be privatized, but those ""gotcha"" questions that people ask AnCap's always make me think that a strong central law enforcement agency is necessary for society to function. >>122355627 Your arguments aren't very sound. If you can't afford to school your children, you shouldn't be a parent. I think the majority of parents would pay to have their children educated. And democracy isn't perfect, but nor is fascism. It never lasts, a benevolent dictator might last his lifetime, but his heir probably wont be as selfless. It always collapses into chaos. At least in a democracy, the leader can be replaced by a vote.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492895332 122349702,122356747,2017-04-22 21:08:55,">>122356105 >not using the 50 billion shekels to fund more white cities.",,Anonymous,88merchant.png,uXUWbYlRpIiT/KJlj0tkSQ==,US,,1492895335 122349702,122356759,2017-04-22 21:09:03,">>122356543 Yeah I'm heading off to bed too. Someone make the next thread pls.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492895343 122349702,122356812,2017-04-22 21:09:26,">>122355606 To paraphrase somebody famous, democracy is a horrible system, but it is still better than the alternatives.",,Anonymous,resizeforfb.php.jpg,r4A1b3yJXTkBjQcw9epKUA==,US,,1492895366 122349702,122356905,2017-04-22 21:10:17,">>122356025 defending your skin from cancer by shooting your brain is hardly defending your skin.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895417 122349702,122356915,2017-04-22 21:10:24,">>122356105 so we build another white city with that money, we can build a bigger one",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492895424 122349702,122356991,2017-04-22 21:10:58,">>122356905 state is a cancer",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492895458 122349702,122357026,2017-04-22 21:11:23,">>122356687 > public school here and it is at this current point a indoctrination center for leftists.This would not be the case in a fascist society No it would just be an indoctrination centre for fascists (which are leftists) >You choose to live in a country. True but taxation is still theft.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492895483 122349702,122357074,2017-04-22 21:11:57,">>122353191 I'm a minarchist too, but why do you believe it's the best system? The government should abolish the reason-negaters, force and fraud, so that humans can prosper through reason. In having a monopoly on the use of force, the government also ensures its continued existence. Ancap can't sustain itself as there are more (ill-gotten) gains in initiating force and fraud on others. Humans need an impartial, nonprofit entity to abolish force and fraud.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895517 122349702,122357129,2017-04-22 21:12:32,">>122357026 Taxes are literally no different than paying rent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895552 122349702,122357156,2017-04-22 21:12:47,">>122355627 >public education >your country men would be retarded If they were so retarded it became a problem, you could voluntarily educate them with the same money you would've paid the state! >but not everyone would pay Not everyone would think it was a bigger problem than the loss they'd take on it Ok related, tfw you're say you're a libertarian so you're borderline acceptable to girls and you're trying not to laugh because caste-based Traditionalism emerges from your system on the low",,Anonymous,Hoppe.jpg,HUZOE3i1RVTYx9rERnvfFQ==,US,,1492895567 122349702,122357316,2017-04-22 21:14:21,">>122357156 *PIC related, fuck this Kindle kikery. BEZOOOOOOOS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895661 122349702,122357330,2017-04-22 21:14:27,">>122356640 No, you really really can't. Unless maybe you were to make everyone in your city pay some sort of rent for living in your property. HMMMMM You'd have to make them pay rent for a nice police force too. Maybe a small military just to make sure no other cities will attack you. A lot of your people seem to be dying, if you increased their rent a little bit to help them they will live longer and give you more rent in the long run. Perhaps we should also make them pay rent for a un biased court system that will not be bribed because they are paid by the rent money. hmmm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895667 122349702,122357427,2017-04-22 21:15:26,">>122357129 taxes are worse than theft and the state don't own my land So they have no right to charge me rent",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492895726 122349702,122357439,2017-04-22 21:15:31,">>122357316 >Owning a kindle",,Anonymous,1492216355988.png,PBJSiEEPWURvCD3q1YJWQw==,US,,1492895731 122349702,122357481,2017-04-22 21:15:57,">>122357129 False, that would imply that the government owns the land that I rightfully owned.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492895757 122349702,122357521,2017-04-22 21:16:18,"I'm a closed borders, socially don't give a shit, and fiscally conservative. I don't think I belong in the libertarian party and wish they would wake up to the immigration problem.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895778 122349702,122357559,2017-04-22 21:16:41,">>122357156 >If they were so retarded it became a problem, you could voluntarily educate them with the same money you would've paid the state Good idea. I'll start teaching them the wonders of marxism and have them infiltrate all of your communities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895801 122349702,122357654,2017-04-22 21:17:37,">>122355166 I wouldn't assume there to be a single owner of the entire forest, or for those owners to even be committed to conservation. That resource still exists to be exploited to some degree. The goal should not be to prevent anyone from chopping trees down, but to limit who actually gets to. Nobody really wants the ""anarchy"" of masses of individuals competing to exploit a common resource. The rights to a resource are always selectively granted to something or someone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895857 122349702,122357677,2017-04-22 21:17:46,">>122357521 >>122357559 PHYSICALLY REMOVE. This is an easy answer to many problems.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492895866 122349702,122357779,2017-04-22 21:18:35,">>122357330 Yes, I can build my own city and make everyone pay a rent for living there. My city, my rules. Guess what, the state doesn't have right about other people property, they don't own any land because they don't create anything. They just steal and treat people. that's the differences beside private city and state city a private city is based on private property, private rules, and profit state cities are based on theft, no voluntary exchanges, and coercive means",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492895915 122349702,122357799,2017-04-22 21:18:45,"noob ancap here Can someone give me an exhaustive list of thinkers to read? I offer this meme as tribute.",,Anonymous,18118702_395002307560301_8561328828959223825_n.jpg,HlHOAG5AaXOfWMXnlz+Xlg==,US,,1492895925 122349702,122357901,2017-04-22 21:19:36,">>122357799 ayn rand",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1492895976 122349702,122357915,2017-04-22 21:19:42,">>122357481 Well, your land is located inside their country, so yeah. >>122357521 I'll help you out, you're a paleo-conservative. Buchanan > Hoppe.",,Anonymous,Patrickjbuchanan.jpg,0MHiXXtWfS8nKIMRZShGJA==,US,,1492895982 122349702,122357929,2017-04-22 21:19:49,">>122357439 >spaceposting Yeah it's shit for /pol/ but it lets me read my racist stuff cheaply and discreetly--and on the go!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895989 122349702,122357948,2017-04-22 21:19:58,">>122354273 Dude you're a major Fucktard /pol/ is anarchy This board is proof that in your society someone within a very shorwhile will fuck it up just for fun. Those floating sanctuaries of freedom will sink within 1 month",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492895998 122349702,122357993,2017-04-22 21:20:32,">let everybody do what they want and assume no exploitation or degeneracy will ever happn Wow nice idealogy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896032 122349702,122358009,2017-04-22 21:20:44,"If you guys are really oldfags then: >>122357173 >>122357173 >>122357173 >>122357173",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896044 122349702,122358025,2017-04-22 21:20:52,">>122357799 I have smirked",,Anonymous,image.jpg,a4pBEhifIu72ku1gLfDcPA==,FR,,1492896052 122349702,122358032,2017-04-22 21:20:59,">>122357915 How does my land being in a country mean they own the land? by what right do they own the land that I own?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492896059 122349702,122358147,2017-04-22 21:22:01,">>122357948 yes man let's thinking about a society based on a webforum that's a good idea",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492896121 122349702,122358174,2017-04-22 21:22:23,">>122358032 I assume you intentionally chose to purchase land inside of Canada, and that you were fully aware that this parcel of land was inside of Canada when you bought it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896143 122349702,122358229,2017-04-22 21:22:53,">>122350512 >thus depriving the entire world of oxygen SOUNDS PROFITABLE M8 But srsly. This kind of doomsday apocalyptic argumentum ad absurdum shit is annoying. One could assume that the continued existence of the rainforest would even be in the logger's interest. Instead of cutting the entire thing down and killing everybody, it would be more likely that they would cut down designated sections and replant afterwards, doing so in such a manner as to keep most of the forest intact while still giving the logger a steady supply of lumber to sell. Privately-managed lands are always better cared for than public, especially if the land turns the owner a profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896173 122349702,122358243,2017-04-22 21:22:59,">>122357427 This is what Hitler would reply to you and those who share a similar mind set. http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492910526441.webm",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492896179 122349702,122358290,2017-04-22 21:23:28,">>122356737 >Your arguments aren't very sound. If you can't afford to school your children, you shouldn't be a parent Good goy. Lower birth rates a good thing for the economy. As if thats going to stop people from doing it anyway. Just because you consider it bad parenting doesn't mean most people do and it doesn't mean people are going to stop fucking and having children. Your arguments always rely on ""well everyone will just do things for the greater good when they have to"" or ""nobody would do anything if they weren't incentivized by money"" >It never lasts, a benevolent dictator might last his lifetime, but his heir probably wont be as selfless. You have no understanding of history. monarchs have lasted centuries. All things must eventually die.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896208 122349702,122358350,2017-04-22 21:24:05,">>122357074 My reasoning is I think force is inevitable and can't be abolished. A working society only functions if everyone is playing by the rules. Inevitably, some people will try to game the system and break the law, and force must be used as a counter measure to prevent that from occurring regularly. There is a thin blue line between order and chaos. It's the law enforcers. Would anyone take police serious if they didn't use force?",,Anonymous,ThinBlueLineFlag.jpg,mtHEiQo+Mr+wJE0DArc6cQ==,CA,,1492896245 122349702,122358360,2017-04-22 21:24:10,">>122358243 >uses Hitler as an arguer against a libertarian You really have no fucking idea how anything works, do you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896250 122349702,122358415,2017-04-22 21:24:47,">>122358025 thanks m8",,Anonymous,18033804_395130414214157_1449327122631002393_n.jpg,3lFSxkqgOflXZa0MsPXW9A==,US,,1492896287 122349702,122358427,2017-04-22 21:24:55,">>122356543 I can imagine Malta being super comfy but like any small island I can imagine most of the infrastructure is government owned and run, and that they do a poor job.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492896295 122349702,122358466,2017-04-22 21:25:16,">>122358243 Hitler is an anti-white cuckold. onyl kill whities",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492896316 122349702,122358519,2017-04-22 21:25:51,">>122357915 Pat's cool, but his writing is an endless newspaper op-ed. None of Hoppe's theoretical sophistication. But those are fagjewcritic reasons. The big problem with Pat is he doesn't understand that redistribution breeds degeneracy. All the conservative morals he likes are signs of low time preference, and taking from producers and giving to non-producers raises time preference. And of course the state has no goddamn right to do so anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896351 122349702,122358664,2017-04-22 21:27:07,">>122358360 How does what you just said make any sense? I'm a national socialist fishing for whites among ancaps who will come to realize the preservation of their race is more important than their individualism just as a soldier in war comes to the realization he must sacrifice his life for the greater collective.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492896427 122349702,122358788,2017-04-22 21:28:19,">>122358466 That's really pathetic logic.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492896499 122349702,122359012,2017-04-22 21:30:16,">>122358788 yes for sure who many whites Hitler killed? and blacks? I don't know why he is a symbol of white supremacist anyway every politician deserve to die",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492896616 122349702,122359054,2017-04-22 21:30:37,">>122358243 Before the government took money from the white working class to subsidize the eventual replacement of whites, charities and fraternal organizations met the needs of the less fortunate. At least in Nazi Germany you knew that your funds were going to your fellow countrymen and not foreign invaders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896637 122349702,122359133,2017-04-22 21:31:20,">>122358290 >Lower birth rates a good thing for the economy. I never made that argument, and your accusations of me arguing on behalf of some globalist jew conspiracy is really cringey. If you have a family, your main priority is their well being. That includes educating your fucking kids. >monarchs have lasted centuries. Yes but no one King last centuries, and the country doesn't prosper for that long. If you are stuck with a bad King, you're fucked unless you organize a revolution. Democracy isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than tyranny",,Anonymous,Shrekt.jpg,MP6me7BfJogJHTsMUEwtuA==,CA,,1492896680 122349702,122359145,2017-04-22 21:31:22,">>122358519 It's precisely because Pat is practical instead of theoretical that he's superior. I'm not a big fan of theoretical solutions to real problems. I like practical solutions. Hoppe is a utopian fantasist like all ancaps. BTW, even though Pat unfortunately never won the presidency, his friend (Donald Trump) did, so Pat's real world impact dwarfs Hoppe's be several thousand magnitudes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896682 122349702,122359223,2017-04-22 21:32:15,">>122358350 Looks like we are on the same page then. >Would anyone take police serious if they didn't use force? No, force and fraud are special in that they negate reason. They can be defeated only with more force. Civilians should still be allowed to own guns to protect themselves in emergencies, but no reason for them to own McDonald's RecreationalNukes™ as the ancaps seem to want.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896735 122349702,122359263,2017-04-22 21:32:32,">>122358664 Fuck them Every white that wasn't part of my pretty-conservative family was a degenerate I have no reasons to sacrifice my identity for these cunts,they are just pasty niggers since they don't understand The concept of future Stop being altruist,even for your kind",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492896752 122349702,122359362,2017-04-22 21:33:15,">>122358664 I know natsocs are stupid, but come on. How does what I said make sense? Hitler was, essentially, diametrically opposed to everything Ancaps/Lolbers stand for. He's as much our enemy as Stalin was. You used him as a purveyor of a counter-argument, as if his words carry any weight in our view.",,Anonymous,C4RyEIiUkAAitMG.jpg,d57Wj64r94M1wQYnszwDFA==,US,,1492896795 122349702,122359470,2017-04-22 21:34:07,">>122358229 >Privately-managed lands are always better cared for than public, especially if the land turns the owner a profit. And what if the owner doesn't really care about the land and just wants to use it for nuclear waste disposal without regard for long-term consequences?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896847 122349702,122359518,2017-04-22 21:34:33,">>122358664 Also it was just a shite argument. 'DURR HURR U USE ROADS SOZ U SHUD PAY TAXES OR UR A FREELOADER HURR DURR""",,Anonymous,18056515_10158622411935296_5413224292174116744_o.jpg,OhvZ8oL5wWtMG1d1xLQ9AA==,US,,1492896873 122349702,122359520,2017-04-22 21:34:34,"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_rainforest#Deforestation >relying on the Brazilian government for the preservation of the forest instead of private organizations People also buy things because they value them not just to extract more resources. And people value breathable air. I'd imagine first people would let companies extract resources like >>122358229 says. And if that goes wrong for some reason, like if people are more interested in the wildlife or the companies aren't ecological enough the organization would stop selling off land and preserve the forest entirely.",,Anonymous,1488739993229.jpg,ZEJxcMf//n+jNw9n/1/s7A==,SI,,1492896874 122349702,122359584,2017-04-22 21:35:10,">>122359012 I'm not even a supremacist I'm simply a preservationist. No one denies the European peoples extinction is coming. I will then cling to the ideology that attempted to avert this. To dabble in anything other than that....to argue over economic systems and such it seems so pointless when in 20-40 years this peoples fate will be sealed. And for what? A few more liberties that may only survive a few centuries? Government systems, political ideologies- they all fall in time. But this race has existed for over millenia and I won't accept its fall in this short span of a century.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492896910 122349702,122359606,2017-04-22 21:35:19,guys we need a charismatic leader as a rallying point,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492896919 122349702,122359795,2017-04-22 21:37:10,">>122358664 Huh. A Leaf that doesn't understand how arguments work and how his posts+Hitler's gay speech are not arguments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897030 122349702,122359801,2017-04-22 21:37:13,">>122359362 Yeah of course but that's what argument and debate is. I shouldn't even reply to you because you're implying that just because we have different ideology that means we shouldn't argue/debate.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492897033 122349702,122359878,2017-04-22 21:37:49,">A working society only functions if everyone is playing by the rules. Then why do you wish to give a select group of people the ability to break the rules that everyone else must abide by?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897069 122349702,122359977,2017-04-22 21:38:46,">>122359801 You have to make arguments to debate. It's too bad you still haven't made a single one.",,Anonymous,1473565951410.png,kYClsA5VfKXVfCt5q3mAbg==,US,,1492897126 122349702,122360108,2017-04-22 21:39:55,"I really don't get the Minarchist logic. The USA was the minarchist utopia. In less than 200 years it became the largest state in the history of mankind. I don't get how you think that giving someone the monopoly on the initiation of force will not inevitably lead to corruption and expansion of powers. They will do it. Always. Because they can. Why? Because you let them by giving them the legal right/authority to initiate force. That sets up a power-differential that will always favor the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897195 122349702,122360208,2017-04-22 21:40:45,">>122359878 Because society necessarily requires some sort of hierarchy to function.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897245 122349702,122360238,2017-04-22 21:41:06,">>122359263 >>122359518 Rampant hyper individualism. It is anti civilization. Anti race for sure. What must be made clear is the definitive conclusion that by no means an ancap or libert claim to be acting in accords to the preservation of his race in the face of its certain extinction. That it simply is not a concern to him because he does not see beyond his individual. This is what a libertarian commentator said about National Socialism and it fits you guys to a T. http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492911638577.webm",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492897266 122349702,122360280,2017-04-22 21:41:28,">>122360108 will always favor the corrupt who seek power*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897288 122349702,122360366,2017-04-22 21:42:12,">>122360108 Isn't it only logical that the government would grow as the population grows?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897332 122349702,122360407,2017-04-22 21:42:34,">>122360208 When did I ever say there wouldn't be hierarchy? The difference here is that you believe the hierarchy should be violently mandated. I believe it should be voluntarily arranged. There is a hierarchy in my office. There's a boss. Managers. Underlings. Not a single person in that situation had to point a gun at anyone to get it to happen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897354 122349702,122360519,2017-04-22 21:43:36,">>122360366 what??? We're talking about powers/reach, not number of employees. How is it logical that at 100 people you can be free, but once we hit 1000 people everyone has to become slaves?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897416 122349702,122360605,2017-04-22 21:44:16,">>122360238 It's too bad you haven't understood that nothing you're posting is an argument. It's just buzz phrases and other forms of sophistry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897456 122349702,122360623,2017-04-22 21:44:24,">>122359977 Actually I have gotten people to admit their aversion to the racial concern which is my goal to out libert/ancaps as being indifferent to the racial fate of those of us who hold a stake in it as being racially European. There are two goals- to fish for whites out of this cess pit of individualism which is no better than marxism or liberalism- and to make it a constant theme the indifference to race that this ideology holds.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492897464 122349702,122360640,2017-04-22 21:44:32,">>122358664 How are you going to bring about National Socialism? Did you forget about the 70 year old constant brainwashing campaign that has been forced down every white persons throat? I hate do break it to you NatSocs but your going to have to be a little clandestine if your going to expect to spread your ideas. Good luck revealing your power level as a ""National Socialist"" . Cant imagine you would have people lining up to agree with you since the most milquetoast white nationalist movements are considered as the rise of the 4th reich.",,Anonymous,1491002914943s.jpg,dMzbjyD3G2SyJ1ICZy7WYw==,US,,1492897472 122349702,122360761,2017-04-22 21:45:27,">>122360238 MUH RACE MUH WHITE CHILLEN",,Anonymous,3SBi8gMf8BqBG.gif,tJEag+q+OKBNpHPkOVOD2Q==,US,,1492897527 122349702,122360794,2017-04-22 21:45:48,">>122360108 Minarchists think the government is a necessary evil, and must constantly be kept in check, and systematically cut back to it's foundations before it becomes a tyrannical oppressive power. I think the US government has mutated to a large state, but I don't think it has yet reached a state of tyranny. It is long overdue for a cutback Force can only be equalized by a counter-force (the police), and thus is necessary for society to function",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492897548 122349702,122360804,2017-04-22 21:45:51,">>122360407 >I believe it should be voluntarily arranged. Some interactions will always be involuntary. Nobody voluntarily goes to trial. Nobody voluntarily goes to prison. Yet these functions are necessary in society because there has to be some way to enforce the rules.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897551 122349702,122360839,2017-04-22 21:46:14,in a libertarian society what would stop me from kidnapping homeless people and loners who have no friends or family to protect them and vivisecting them live on stream for views?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897574 122349702,122360925,2017-04-22 21:46:56,">>122360623 Still not an argument. I really don't care how much you want to RP as a NAZI, but I'm pretty sure no one cares. You have done literally nothing and aren't going to start doing anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897616 122349702,122360966,2017-04-22 21:47:15,">>122359584 And the state is not the way for archive that if the state destroy white civilization the state can't save the white civilization",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492897635 122349702,122361041,2017-04-22 21:48:03,,,Anonymous,ludwig-von-mises-606864.jpg,1TAyYM8p9heTkScoTSRH1Q==,US,,1492897683 122349702,122361097,2017-04-22 21:48:34,,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,QohK4xkwv7OjvTtlRu1HNA==,US,,1492897714 122349702,122361112,2017-04-22 21:48:44,">>122360839 in a libertarian society, why would a company have to allow you to stream that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897724 122349702,122361194,2017-04-22 21:49:25,,,Anonymous,rothbradtaxes.jpg,fvM+ntAxcVlyq379XrOXjg==,US,,1492897765 122349702,122361282,2017-04-22 21:50:07,">>122360839 What;s stopping you now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897807 122349702,122361330,2017-04-22 21:50:27,">>122360794 Yes, I understand what Minarchists think. I think what they think is ludicrous. Once again. How do you keep someone in check when you've vested them with the authority to kill someone who did nothing to agrees on anyone? It does not work. At all. They will always take more. They will always create new laws/regs to keep the funds coming and growing. They will always enrich their cronies. They will always meddle in markets. Because they CAN, because short of a full-blown revolution, there's nothing anyone can do to stop them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897827 122349702,122361331,2017-04-22 21:50:28,">>122360839 No you fuckwit",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492897828 122349702,122361349,2017-04-22 21:50:35,,,Anonymous,statist.jpg,zlzXBa0OycDi0fvviZul0A==,US,,1492897835 122349702,122361353,2017-04-22 21:50:37,">>122360238 Ever heard of discrimination ? Also the family and The tribal connections between individuals are important,as important as private property,but in this shithole called France there are no many whites anymore,only cock-sucking slaves and as I said I won't give up my life for this third world country,my induviduality is whole I have",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492897837 122349702,122361399,2017-04-22 21:51:01,">>122361282 because tax funded police would arrest me",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897861 122349702,122361434,2017-04-22 21:51:21,">>122360839 That's a good question. I asked something similar yesterday and never really got a firm answer. >>122360794 The problem is that the welfare state is political popular with both parties. Nobody can stand up and say ""I'm going to eliminate social security and medicare"" and then expect to get elected because old people will never vote for somebody who says that and old people are also the demographic that is most likely to actually got out and vote. So in order to eliminate those programs, you'd basically need to install a dictator who can cut government programs without fear of being voted out of office.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897881 122349702,122361441,2017-04-22 21:51:29,For the statists still among us,,Anonymous,3govfunctions.jpg,7nfpHY0PX2IQdcE8M9g5fw==,US,,1492897889 122349702,122361546,2017-04-22 21:52:31,">>122360839 All the armed individuals who would blow your head off. No one can stop you from doing that now. All anyone can ever do is offer incentives to dissuade you from doing something or rectify a situation after it has already occurred. That includes the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897951 122349702,122361591,2017-04-22 21:52:56,">>122361434 read my comment for an answer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492897976 122349702,122361755,2017-04-22 21:54:30,">>122361399 There would be police in libertarian land, bruh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898070 122349702,122361759,2017-04-22 21:54:34,">>122361546 why would armed individuals risk their lives to take me out if i'm only killing homeless people and loners who don't have any social contacts?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898074 122349702,122361819,2017-04-22 21:55:03,">>122360640 Yes that is a good concern to bring up. And all these years later Hitler can still answer them himself. http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492912471119.webm",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492898103 122349702,122361853,2017-04-22 21:55:21,>>122353907,,Anonymous,1491793138885.jpg,iYLHiZ803Gy0EGEae8ivGw==,US,,1492898121 122349702,122361869,2017-04-22 21:55:33,">>122361399 Says who? There has to be a certain level of crime for them to combat so they can justify a budget increase. They might just let you go. Whoever hosts your stream would probably kill you. Whoever owns the property you are on would kill you. I would kill you. People watching the stream would kill you. The insurance company of the company hosting your livestream would probably find and enslave you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898133 122349702,122361888,2017-04-22 21:55:44,">>122361330 >you've vested them with the authority to kill someone who did nothing I don't think anyone with half a brain would vest them that >They will always enrich their cronies. If the laws against corruption are higher than the perceived benefits of corruption, corruption becomes rare. Ever hear of internal affairs officers? For example, if you make the punishment for accepting bribes the death penalty, there wouldn't be a lot of cops taking bribes. Again necessary evil. Without order, you have chaos",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492898144 122349702,122361922,2017-04-22 21:56:03,">>122361759 Because they have an incentive to stop psychopathic murderers from running free through their society. They're also, you know, HUMAN BEINGS. Also, as stated earlier, there would be police in a libertarian utopia. They'd also be way more effective and response times would be way shorter, so they'd probably stop you sooner and save more homeless people than our current tax pigs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898163 122349702,122362063,2017-04-22 21:57:14,">>122361759 The same reason we throw communists out of helicopters. You lack a fundamental respect for private property rights to the extent that it invalidates your humanity. And its fun",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898234 122349702,122362109,2017-04-22 21:57:38,">>122361353 So ideally you would like to see an ancap/libert candidate win who would begin dismantling the state to almost nothing. Then you the individual would achieve a higher standard of living correct? And this is the goal?",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492898258 122349702,122362140,2017-04-22 21:57:56,,,Anonymous,Lew-Rockwell-wrong-for-one-wrong-for-all.jpg,w3B/KQe6zphXEoNO1BlLKg==,US,,1492898276 122349702,122362229,2017-04-22 21:58:43,">>122362063 >If you disagree with me I'll kill you",,Anonymous,1491605672328.jpg,mph/ssPerxf6S5KrMcFwBg==,US,,1492898323 122349702,122362236,2017-04-22 21:58:50,">>122361922 >Because they have an incentive to stop psychopathic murderers from running free through their society what incentive is that if i'm only targeting people who cannot protect themselves to begin with?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898330 122349702,122362357,2017-04-22 21:59:50,">>122361434 >you'd basically need to install a dictator who can cut government programs No, you would just need a majority vote. The elderly population does not make the majority. Installing a dictatorship would be like taking chemo therapy because you want to get bald. There is a easier, less destructive means to the end.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492898390 122349702,122362398,2017-04-22 22:00:14,">>122361888 >I don't think anyone with half a brain would vest them that Well use your two halves of a brain to think about what taxation is and what happens if someone refuses to pay it. >If the laws against corruption are higher than the perceived benefits of corruption, corruption becomes rare. If the laws. The laws. Laws. Who controls the laws? The state. You think the state is willingly going to concede its own power? I doubt it. It goes in one direction, and not against their own interests. Maybe the state does push forward some new anti-corruption law at the demand of the populace. Do you really think it would be effective? Or would it be so neutered and watered down as to be functionally meaningless? Maybe they throw a few patsies in jail. Maybe they push some anti-corruption propaganda. They're still there, with a power/authority over everyone else and the same base human desires for power and dominance that dwell in every man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898414 122349702,122362554,2017-04-22 22:01:38,">>122362229 No, you can disagree, you cannot seek to impose something on someone else who doesn't want it. Death in this case. Communists fundamentally do not understand private property rights and seek impositions upon my body and all extensions of it. Their lack of basic understanding of the principles of bodily autonomy make them inhuman. Animals to be trained or put down if they decide to bite",,Anonymous,physicallyremoveed.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,US,,1492898498 122349702,122362636,2017-04-22 22:02:21,">>122358174 The government foverns land within its control . It doesn't own all land. It may govern all land but thats different from ownership",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898541 122349702,122362643,2017-04-22 22:02:23,"""All that matters is what each individual person wants! No duties should be imposed to ensure the vitality of the nation, everyone should just focus on their rights no matter what that means for their race!"" Worse than democracy. In an ancap system the people have effectively divided themselves. Any organized group seeking to subvert the ancap society and slowly manipulate people out of their land and resources can now do so with ease because the people who make up this society are motivated entirely by their personal interests and have no means of maintaining social cohesion. A large population without a state, no matter how intelligent or well-armed, cannot last because their uninhibited selfishness will provoke them to sell their property to the highest bidder, turning the whole ancap territory into a giant live auction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898543 122349702,122362735,2017-04-22 22:02:59,,,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,US,,1492898579 122349702,122362817,2017-04-22 22:03:44,">>122362554 Hoppe is nice, but he can also be a fucking retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898624 122349702,122362915,2017-04-22 22:04:42,">>122362817 Spotted the atheist faggot",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492898682 122349702,122362936,2017-04-22 22:04:52,">>122362735 It could be argued that labor is a commodity like anything else, and restricting the flow of labor is restricting the flow of goods and services.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898692 122349702,122362967,2017-04-22 22:05:06,">>122362554 >>122362229 If you want to build a commune in Ancapistan no one will stop you, but the second you try to impose it on anyone who doesn't want it or prevent anyone from leaving who doesn't want it anymore you run afoul of NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898706 122349702,122363049,2017-04-22 22:05:43,">>122362109 Not ultimately My goal would be being with my all white family with no nogs and die happily because the root of all evil will be down But if I end up with a classical liberal who hates niggers as president (pic related)...meh better than nothing",,Anonymous,image.jpg,OUyDhqcoVPw4AA8bYMRcDg==,FR,,1492898743 122349702,122363061,2017-04-22 22:05:52,">>122362915 What the fuck does that have to do with it? I'm a protestant, btw.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898752 122349702,122363071,2017-04-22 22:05:55,">>122362636 >It doesn't own all land. The government allows the vast majority of land to be privately owned because that's just what makes sense in terms of economics, but it still needs to reserve certain parcels of land for government functions. But at the end of the day, the government does in fact rule all the land within its domain, whether that land is owned publicly or privately. This is simply necessary for society to function.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898755 122349702,122363200,2017-04-22 22:07:09,">>122362936 It is a commodity and he's not arguing for restricting the flow of labor. He's saying that if people want to live together in homogenous groups they are not precluded from trading with other groups. Nips can trade with Chinks and they don't have to be integrated to do so for example.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898829 122349702,122363286,2017-04-22 22:07:54,">>122363061 Weren't you responding to the image he posted?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492898874 122349702,122363288,2017-04-22 22:07:55,">>122363200 But a restrictive immigration policy would be restricting the flow of laborers, labor, goods, and services. No?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898875 122349702,122363290,2017-04-22 22:07:56,">>122362817 Not an arguement",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898876 122349702,122363337,2017-04-22 22:08:19,">>122362735 The argument he's making in that picture if you're talking about a nation with borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898899 122349702,122363364,2017-04-22 22:08:33,">>122362967 >no one will stop you No but that contradicts earlier statements by hans posting in that communists will always try to agitate and create bases in which to await a weak era of society to then attack and take over. So for example as we would be going into suspected commies homes, investigating, dismantling and deporting them- you would be doing the same correct?",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492898913 122349702,122363382,2017-04-22 22:08:44,">>122362398 We aren't giving them taxes to kill innocent people you dimwit. In a free society, the state doesn't create laws, individuals do. They are voted in by the people Your theories are whack, law is necessary for society to function. Without it, those ""base human desires for power and dominance"" you speak of run wild in the populous",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492898924 122349702,122363395,2017-04-22 22:08:50,">>122363286 Yes. I was. I don't see how thinking that ""physical removal of homosexuals"" is a retarded statement has anything to do with atheism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898930 122349702,122363472,2017-04-22 22:09:31,">>122363288 Yes, that is functionally correct, but immaterial to what the image macro is saying.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492898971 122349702,122363603,2017-04-22 22:10:41,">>122363382 >In a free society, the state doesn't create laws, individuals do. The only way than an individual can make a law is if he is a king, dictator, or some other form of autocracy, and he has an army that is sufficiently large to enforce the laws that he is making.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899041 122349702,122363659,2017-04-22 22:11:13,">>122363049 So you would like to ensure your family is protected and no immediate nearby foreigners but due to personal experience with your own race you are indifferent to the grand fate of your people correct?",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492899073 122349702,122363705,2017-04-22 22:11:37,,,Anonymous,CSETIbluewhitelogo.gif,GZ03xq0aIYb/4lu6vVUNoQ==,GB,,1492899097 122349702,122363726,2017-04-22 22:11:50,">>122363382 >We aren't giving them taxes to kill innocent people you dimwit. lmao you really do nothing to disabuse the stereotype of leafs as fucking morons. That's not what I said at all. Taxes are the violent appropriation of someone's property. A state necessarily requires taxes. That's basically the definition of a state. If you give someone the right to tax, you give someone the right to kill a non-aggressor, because the person refusing to give his property to someone has not agressed against them. Get it now, leaf? I also never said there would be no laws in Ancapistan, bruh. I'm merely asking that no one is given the explicit authority to violate laws, which the state is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899110 122349702,122363728,2017-04-22 22:11:54,">>122363395 I doubt you're a Christian. More of a nominal kind.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492899114 122349702,122363864,2017-04-22 22:13:07,">>122362967 How does that differ from real life? If a group of commies tries to kidnap you, you can legally shoot and kill them. It probably wouldn't even make it to trial, and even if it did you'd almost certainly win.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899187 122349702,122363955,2017-04-22 22:13:58,">>122363603 You're wrong - individuals create laws through voting Individual voters who form the majority = The collective society creates the laws.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492899238 122349702,122363976,2017-04-22 22:14:12,">>122363728 Oh fuck off with that shit. You don't have to be a homophobe to be a christian. MUH BUTT BANDITS MUH FAGS How about you worry about your own genitals and let other people live their lives? Aren't you a fucking libertarian, for fuck's sake?",,Anonymous,f6f.jpg,DOBHfSvnRO6NZM/PJ2Ho2Q==,US,,1492899252 122349702,122364096,2017-04-22 22:15:16,">>122363976 Yeah that means fags can fuck each other a far distance from my property. Don't be a fag dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899316 122349702,122364133,2017-04-22 22:15:34,">>122357915 >I'll help you out, you're a paleo-conservative I don't really care about traditional values though. I mean sure, it would be nice if I had a wife who would be the house keeper and give me tons of babies. But I don't care if what anyone else does as long as I don't have to pay for it. I like Hoppe's idea of private covenants and would move into one in a heartbeat that didn't have Hollywood values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899334 122349702,122364169,2017-04-22 22:15:55,">>122363659 Now you're correct If I'm an ancap is mainly because I want these cucks to take their responsabilities (burn the coal,pay the toal etc...)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492899355 122349702,122364182,2017-04-22 22:16:02,">>122363955 Voting is done by groups of people, not individuals. >>122363726 Without a state, nobody can even agree on what the rules are in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899362 122349702,122364190,2017-04-22 22:16:08,">>122364096 No one ever said anything about fags having anal orgies on your lawn, kangaroo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899368 122349702,122364243,2017-04-22 22:16:33,">>122363976 You realize Homosexuals serve no purpose in life, they produce no offspring. Their entire sexual existence is simply degeneracy- to fulfill ones individual desire. Their mere existence walking the streets is simply a reminder that of tolerated purposeless sex. Well, it can't be tolerated.",,Adolf Hitler,nat soc age of consent.png,yiPS8J6v6YjPx600NiVU2w==,CA,,1492899393 122349702,122364339,2017-04-22 22:17:22,">>122364182 The rules have existed since the beginning of the universe. it's called natural law, and it's innate in all people. The definition of a libertarian is to uphold natural law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899442 122349702,122364378,2017-04-22 22:17:40,">>122363071 >the government does in fact rule all the land within its domain, >whether that land is owned publicly or privately that word...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899460 122349702,122364492,2017-04-22 22:18:43,">>122363364 I would probably just wait for them to start something before removing them. Communism even as Marx would have had it requires a state to expropriate private industry and property to some omnipotent central planner, some new type of selfless soviet leader, if someone were to attempt to create a gang of enforcers in order to expropriate property for the greater good then they would be put down pretty quick. If however, someone put up some capital and bought a firm and decided to rung everything through direct democracy and non hierarchical management structure then so be it. If they were able to voluntarily carve out a community based on some kind of communistic principle and remained sociable to the rest of society then there is no problem. Communists, however, do not recognize on a fundamental level concepts such as ""ownership"" they fail to see how the money and risk a capitalist puts into an enterprise would then entitle them to the profits of that enterprise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899523 122349702,122364518,2017-04-22 22:18:55,">>122364243 yeah, sure. Freddy Mercury served no purpose. Douglas Murray serves no purpose. ALAN FUCKING TURING SERVED NO PURPOSE I agree that breeding is the most important thing people can do, but that does not mean it is the only important thing you can do, you fucking monkey.",,Anonymous,669.gif,Ox5eAEYyxbOw6Nrvc2b6ew==,US,,1492899535 122349702,122364595,2017-04-22 22:19:31,">>122363288 ""the flow""? now you're just using buzzwords. if an entire community voluntarily decided to disassociate from others, including foreign labor, thats their perogative.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899571 122349702,122364652,2017-04-22 22:20:04,">>122364169 The conclusion being that the grand fate of your people is something you are indifferent to right? And so then we come to the next point. The only thing different between me and you would be I am not different to the grand fate of my people and as history shows if we become relevant we do grab the power of the state and utilize it the most authoritarian way. And so in this situation do you become one of those whites that tries to fight against us? http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492797188479.webm",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492899604 122349702,122364706,2017-04-22 22:20:33,">>122363726 Calling me names online - wow hurts muh feelings so bad Taxes are theft, I agree. We're splitting hairs here, chuck. I argue it's a necessary evil when it's to uphold the law of the land. I'm not arguing for an all-encompassing boogyman state. Just law enforcement. Everything else can be privatized and the free market can run unrestricted. However, without cops keeping everyone from breaking the rules, you no longer have a civil society - you have chaos",,Anonymous,lolingoutloud.gif,bTmTmDoHOrY9ae49DKhwPA==,CA,,1492899633 122349702,122364740,2017-04-22 22:20:47,">>122363976 No. I believe sodomites should be executed.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492899647 122349702,122364843,2017-04-22 22:21:39,">>122364133 >I don't really care about traditional values though. Donald Trump doesn't either, although he sometimes pretends to, and he's pretty much Pat Buchanan but if he actually became president. >>122364339 >it's called natural law, and it's innate in all people. This is silly, and in your heart, you know that. If ""natural law"" were innate in all people, then communists would never have existed in the first place. How does one explain the Stalins, the Mugabes, the Charles Mansons of the world if there is indeed an internalized rulebook that everybody just magically knows from birth?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899699 122349702,122364907,2017-04-22 22:22:11,">>122364595 LOL ""flow"" is a buzzword now? it's a fucking word, bruh. It means movement. As in, a laborer moving into an area and performing labor. That was a flow of labor. Fuck me. I do agree that in a voluntarily arranged situation it would be ok. The private land owners can do what they like with their land. I'm also partial to the argument that, since the state does not have a right to the land, were it to open its borders and flood the country with migrants, that would not necessarily be with the consent of the governed. Then again, that applies equally to closing the borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492899731 122349702,122364926,2017-04-22 22:22:20,">>122363976 BTW are you a member of ELCA? What church do you go to?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492899740 122349702,122365035,2017-04-22 22:23:18,">>122363955 In truth, in the case of individuals, their actual voting is not to be taken as proof of consent, even for the time being. On the contrary, it is to be considered that, without his consent having ever been asked, a man finds himself environed by a government that he cannot resist; a government that forces him to pay money, render service, and forego the exercise of many of his natural rights, under peril of weighty punishments. He sees, too, that other men practise this tyranny over him by the use of the ballot. He sees further that, if he will but use the ballot himself, he has some chance of relieving himself from this tyranny of others, by subjecting them to his own. In short, he finds himself, without his consent, so situated that, if he use the ballot, he may become a master; if he does not use it, he must become a slave. And he has no other alternative than these two. In self-defence, he attempts the former. His case is analogous to that of a man who has been forced into battle, where he must either kill others, or be killed himself. Because, to save his own life in battle, a man attempts to take the lives of his opponents, it is not to be inferred that the battle is one of his own choosing. Neither in contests with the ballot -- which is a mere substitute for a bullet -- because, as his only chance of self-preservation, a man uses a ballot, is it to be inferred that the contest is one into which he voluntarily entered; that he voluntarily set up all his own natural rights, as a stake against those of others, to be lost or won by the mere power of numbers. On the contrary, it is to be considered that, in an exigency, into which he had been forced by others, and in which no other means of self-defence offered, he, as a matter of necessity, used the only one that was left to him.",,Anonymous,spoonerbased.jpg,NFjW526h7GH6TbPQ+5/SfA==,US,,1492899798 122349702,122365093,2017-04-22 22:23:58,">>122364492 Yes. As long as they don't bother anyone then they are tolerated. That is an cap/libertarianism.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492899838 122349702,122365219,2017-04-22 22:25:08,">>122364518 They're were lame muscians. von Neumann did more for computing than Turing.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1492899908 122349702,122365402,2017-04-22 22:26:37,">>122352406 >being a crypto-socialist economic illiterate I don't think so.",,Anonymous,d53.jpg,wS9YpzkZk92EN3C+YDcuJQ==,US,,1492899997 122349702,122365407,2017-04-22 22:26:43,">>122362643 Read Democracy: the God that Failed. Especially the chapter on conservatism and libertarianism. It is the people-farm superstate that atomizes us. AnCap points the way back to community, family, and tradition. READ THE BOOK FAGGOTS. Every /lrg/ thread has these same strawmen about individualism. HE FUCKIN KNOWS, Hoppe knows. He's *fighting* all that. If I weren't so sleepy I'd explain it and give you all two swift phallogocentric slaps with my big a priori dong. READ IT G'NIGHT",,Anonymous,Democracy_Hoppe.jpg,HZQrjXlGprwSzxDX7sj+Yg==,US,,1492900003 122349702,122365435,2017-04-22 22:26:56,">>122364652 Just leave me alone,whoever you are:jewish,negro,the gubmint,the SchultzStaffel let me do my shit and I won't bother you",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1492900016 122349702,122365444,2017-04-22 22:26:59,How about you formulate your own arguments instead of copying and pasting quotes from Lysander Spooner?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492900019 122349702,122365582,2017-04-22 22:28:08,">>122352509 >It will always just result in many tiny monarchies. And?",,Anonymous,F8hIAON.png,xUiUSBclpWQ6DVdSaUUhOA==,US,,1492900088 122349702,122365635,2017-04-22 22:28:33,">>122365093 Basically, but socialists tend to be bothersome by nature because they have the audacity to believe that they, the great and wise men that they are, know how things ought to be and you, the ignorant masses, do not know what is in your best interest. Without coercion socialists will just go out of business.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900113 122349702,122365687,2017-04-22 22:28:53,">>122364706 >Calling me names online - wow hurts muh feelings so bad please see >>122363382 and read the very first sentence you wrote, leaf >Taxes are theft, I agree. We're splitting hairs here, chuck. I argue it's a necessary evil when it's to uphold the law of the land. Ok, I can understand that position that it is a necessary evil. I at least commend you for admitting that it IS an evil. That said, I mentioned taxes because you scoffed at the notion that the definition of a state is vesting someone with the authority to kill a non-aggressor. A tax-dodger is a non-aggressor. The state has the authority to kill them. >I'm not arguing for an all-encompassing boogyman state. I know you're not, but you don't seem to realize that no matter how small the state, it will always end up as the boogyman. See: the United States of America This happens because of the nature of human beings in positions of violent authority. >Just law enforcement. Everything else can be privatized and the free market can run unrestricted. And why exactly can't law enforcement be privatized? >However, without cops keeping everyone from breaking the rules, you no longer have a civil society - you have chaos I agree, to a certain extent. I don't know so much about cops, per se, depending on how you define 'cops,' but a system of law and recompense is definitely necessary. I just don't think you need a state to have one. See: Ireland",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900133 122349702,122365753,2017-04-22 22:29:33,">>122364740 Then you're not a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900173 122349702,122365882,2017-04-22 22:30:40,">>122349702 - - - copypaste - - - >Leftists: >Corporatism reeeeeeeeee! People before profits, man! Give newly arrived refugees the right to vote! >Libertarians: >Government will kill us all! We must use the snake flag to restore the freedom of commerce, restricted only by the NAP! The true red pill: Both large corporations and the government are infiltrated by kikes and affirmative action and are trying to genocide the white race. The government doesn't really protect you. We can only depend on our kinship group for altruism. - - - copypaste - - -",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900240 122349702,122365894,2017-04-22 22:30:48,">>122364843 I never said natural law was a binding force that prevented all people from violating it. It's merely a set of principles that everyone understands.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900248 122349702,122365961,2017-04-22 22:31:32,">>122365882 corporations are a product of the state, not a free market",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900292 122349702,122366024,2017-04-22 22:31:58,">>122353907 Socialist policies asymmetrically harm small businesses, dumbshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900318 122349702,122366190,2017-04-22 22:33:36,">>122365635 That's a type of balkanization that can't be tolerated. There would be nothing stopping one region that is much more liberal/globalist than others from importing foreigners",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492900416 122349702,122366312,2017-04-22 22:34:46,">>122354493 You can want ethno-nationalism with wanting a retard corporatist centrally planned economy, you brainless subhuman consumer good.",,Anonymous,kNcOHfo.png,nlOd0aD96iDkbfLfHX4/lA==,US,,1492900486 122349702,122366392,2017-04-22 22:35:29,">>122366312 without*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900529 122349702,122366424,2017-04-22 22:35:44,">>122365894 >It's merely a set of principles that everyone understands. But if I asked thirty different people to write down those principles, I'd get thirty different responses.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900544 122349702,122366527,2017-04-22 22:36:36,">>122365961 >>122366024 The point being made here is that to achieve a healthier ratio of small business vs big business- the free market is key correct?",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492900596 122349702,122366587,2017-04-22 22:37:06,">>122366424 No, you really wouldn't. Natural law is, essentially, the golden rule. Everyone understands this. Everyone is taught this. Sure, you might get one retard out of a thousand who says otherwise, but that's a rounding error, not a general rule.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900626 122349702,122366855,2017-04-22 22:39:33,">>122366527 I suppose that is true, but I fail to see how the statement ""too much capitalism means too few capitalists"" makes any sense. If you say, there aren't enough small business (capitalists) right now, that is not a product of ""too much capitalism."" That is a product of too much interventionism, the opposite of capitalism/free markets.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900773 122349702,122366878,2017-04-22 22:39:45,">>122366587 lol. never left your county?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900785 122349702,122366973,2017-04-22 22:40:39,">>122366878 Are you really going to tell me that the golden rule is this esoteric thing only understood by retards on /pol/?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900839 122349702,122367013,2017-04-22 22:40:55,">>122365687 It's a complicated topic. You make some solid points, I'll give you that.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492900855 122349702,122367036,2017-04-22 22:41:03,">>122365961 >not a free market Business corporations wouldn't exist in a free market? Incorporation couldn't be carried out in a libertarian state? If not, how the fuck would shared ownership of large ventures work? Don't waste my fucking time with stupid, weak bitch arguments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900863 122349702,122367146,2017-04-22 22:41:56,">>122366587 >No, you really wouldn't. This is a joke, right? People don't agree on anything. Nobody would ever be able to agree on the rules except that the government decides what the rules are and standardizes them for everybody. The simple fact that half the country votes for Republicans and the other half votes for Democrats is proof of that. And don't try to feed me that BS that the two parties are the same.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492900916 122349702,122367370,2017-04-22 22:43:51,">>122367036 Corporations are vested with extra legal privileges that regular individuals are not. Here, fag: http://wiki.c2.com/?CorporationsAreNotFreeMarket",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901031 122349702,122367377,2017-04-22 22:43:54,">>122366855 I assume we agree small business is important. Our different methods of encouraging this. I believe in protectionist policies, ensuring our small business is not pushed aside or taken over by foreign competition utilizing government authority to enforce tariffs. You on the other hand I presume believe in dismantling protectionism as a means to help small business correct?",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492901034 122349702,122367585,2017-04-22 22:45:33,">>122367146 I don't care where you go to ask. China. Malaysia. Denmark. Brazil. If you give them a thought experiment in which one person is just minding their own business and another person comes along and takes their shit or attacks them, 9.999/10,000 are going to say that the attacker is a criminal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901133 122349702,122367865,2017-04-22 22:47:40,">>122367377 Well protectionism is a subset of interventionism, and it's the only type of interventionism that I can semi-tolerate in a society that has states. I still don't like it, and I don't think it's necessary, but I can understand the desire to rectify unevenness between states, but I'm pretty sure it will always have unintended negative consequences. Government meddling always does.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901260 122349702,122367937,2017-04-22 22:48:16,">>122365435 Well if you ever change your mind you know Hitler awaits.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492901296 122349702,122367996,2017-04-22 22:48:44,"Look guys, can we all just agree taxation is theft? And Nazi's and Communists are statist boot-licking dipshits?",,Anonymous,taxationistheft.jpg,cfEjMcGM4b7BXNTj4/Y6tQ==,CA,,1492901324 122349702,122368385,2017-04-22 22:51:44,">>122367996 hear hear",,Anonymous,C4lgem_WAAANLyZ.jpg,YYWHlqVQYrbJG9UuA7NvZw==,US,,1492901504 122349702,122368597,2017-04-22 22:53:32,">>122355044 A consistent anarcho-syndicalism would just be An",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901612 122349702,122368600,2017-04-22 22:53:33,">>122367585 Even if they all agree that the attacker is a criminal there is still plenty of room for disagreement. Asks what sort of punishment is appropriate for this offense. The Chinese person will say prison. The Malaysian will say death penalty. The Dane will say community service.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901613 122349702,122368672,2017-04-22 22:54:15,>>122367996,,Adolf Hitler,sacrifice 3.jpg,Fjc+1rmjMKyYacdb/2ARjQ==,CA,,1492901655 122349702,122368857,2017-04-22 22:55:48,">>122355044 A consistent anarcho-syndicalism would just be AnCap but with cooperatives instead of companies. The issue is: how do you enforce that economic structure without authoritarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901748 122349702,122368868,2017-04-22 22:55:52,">>122368600 I never said there had to be agreement on punishment. I'm merely saying that natural law is a thing and societies can be and have been organized around it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901752 122349702,122368993,2017-04-22 22:57:07,">>122368868 Yeah, but you still need somebody to decide what the punishment is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901827 122349702,122369019,2017-04-22 22:57:20,">>122355246 Open borders kike. Fuck him. Hoppe master race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901840 122349702,122369047,2017-04-22 22:57:35,">>122368672 What's your point? Show me a set of ideas, and I'll find you some Jews who believed in it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1492901855 122349702,122369135,2017-04-22 22:58:12,">>122367865 It means a different thing from a Canadian and an American most likely. We have many protectionist policy in place for the sole purpose of preventing total american corporate take over of our business. It is necessary that we have much government involvement whether it be subsidy or tariff. It becomes an easy equation that nationalism is synonymous with government enforcement especially if you are a smaller power near large ones.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1492901892 122349702,122369138,2017-04-22 22:58:14,">>122368672 You don't seem to realize that that shit doesn't work on us. We don't care if someone is ""jude"" or not. We don't respect the opinions of people just because they have a swastika armband. If they make a good argument, sure, but he sure didn't. Self-sacrifice is not the same thing as slavery. Self-sacrifice is a beautiful thing. And guess what? It's only really self-sacrifice when it's voluntarily performed, not when it is coerced into being by someone with a gun.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492901894 122349702,122369445,2017-04-22 23:00:54,">>122367370 How can you be so stupid as to think that it would be possible to fund large ventures without shared ownership?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492902054 122349702,122369457,2017-04-22 23:01:00,"Just finishing the history of liberalism podcast. Good primer, can't wait to dive in to Adam Smith and make my way to modern authors. Makes me miss living in New Hampshire, didn't realise how much of a libertarian paradise it really was until moving to Mass.....",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492902060 122412198,122412198,2017-04-23 07:24:04,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - St. George the patron saint of slaying commies edition,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,GB,,1492932244 122412198,122412324,2017-04-23 07:25:40,,,Anonymous,1491774328231.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,GB,,1492932340 122412198,122412443,2017-04-23 07:27:16,,,Anonymous,1491844924102.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,GB,,1492932436 122412198,122412798,2017-04-23 07:31:37,"Liberty bump Who is the /lrg/ choice in French election?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492932697 122412198,122413066,2017-04-23 07:35:17,">>122412798 Le Pen and Fillon are the least retarded options. Macron would be a disaster, Melanchon equally but it would be quite funny to watch.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492932917 122412198,122413075,2017-04-23 07:35:22,">>122412798 not Le Pen from all I've heard and FN is not I can't imagine anyone over 3% being it",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492932922 122412198,122413118,2017-04-23 07:36:02,">>122413075 >>122412798 from a liberty pov at least she's pretty socialist apparently",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1492932962 122412198,122413386,2017-04-23 07:39:40,">>122413118 Her policies don't seem a far-cry from National Socialism as far as I can tell. It's rare you hear about here economics though as her/FN stand on immigration, nationalism, law&order, multiculturalism are dominant in the media. Maybe a french-anon can tl;dr her 144 (?) page mainfesto.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492933180 122412198,122413520,2017-04-23 07:41:14,">>122413386 >Social and employment policy are thus presented in terms of promoting “patriotic” models. There are pledges to promote French business, to protect the economy where necessary from foreign investment and free it from “European constraints”, to impose an extra tax on the employment of foreign nationals. >Previous promises remain: to lower the retirement age to 60, reduce energy prices and taxes, and introduce trade barriers along with measures designed to help small rather than big business. The 35-hour week is sacrosanct, civil servants are to be protected. >le imported inflation then debt model",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492933274 122412198,122413742,2017-04-23 07:44:12,Le Pen or Fillon are the least worst options it seems,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492933452 122412198,122414196,2017-04-23 07:49:26,Where are all the lurking commies today? Out yourselves - or have you all given into to superior /lrg/ philosophy?,,Anonymous,1491850050790.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,GB,,1492933766 122501377,122501377,2017-04-23 18:42:34,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL- HOPPE WAS RIGHT EDITION,Anonymous,lrg.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,BR,,1492972954 122501377,122502851,2017-04-23 18:54:09,">>122501377 How come the shitbag in your video speaks with a rainbow lisp? Sorry no soup for you, CIA homo. Start preparing yourself for slurping your stirred shit martini.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1492973649 122501377,122503547,2017-04-23 18:58:57,">>122501377 You really cleaned up the initial post, I thought it was way too much. Although now I think it's a little too short.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492973937 122501377,122504117,2017-04-23 19:03:05,">>122503547 I just copied the pastebin.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492974185 122501377,122505102,2017-04-23 19:10:15,">>122501377 In ancap society, what stops people from taking books written by somebody else, copying them verbatim, and then selling them as if they were their own without giving any credit (or money) to the original author?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492974615 122501377,122506692,2017-04-23 19:22:26,">>122505102 nothing,because intelectual property is not real property becase if I ""steal"" someones work they still have that work . The authors would have to rely on the public to support him.",,Anonymous,piracy-is-not-theft.png,8lszr8Jqpm8mUUG3FfxgUQ==,BR,,1492975346 122501377,122507654,2017-04-23 19:29:42,">>122506692 Fair enough, but without copyright laws, how does any company defend their reputation if anybody else can just start using their name and logos without consequences?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492975782 122501377,122508021,2017-04-23 19:32:40,">>122507654 McDeathsquads Also fraud would still be a crime in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492975960 122501377,122508307,2017-04-23 19:34:46,">>122508021 Fraud on what basis? Unless your logos and name are copyrighted, they aren't ""yours"" so anybody can use them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492976086 122501377,122508508,2017-04-23 19:36:14,">>122506692 I'm an artist (inb4 ""freeloading faggot"") I wrestled with the copyright conundrum, but now I'm convinced you just need to do merchandise and rely on patrons. The internet makes it very possible to make a respectable living off of art. Sell mugs. Sell shirts. Sell prints. Sell CDs. Whatever it is. Open a donations box. Whatever. People do contribute to content creators they like. I'm poor as fuck and still patreon some people without even caring about the rewards. As far as counterfeits, if you got to that level of fame where it became an issue, people would gladly pay extra for authenticity. Give them a certificate or something proving it came directly from the creator. I'm convinced that Ancap was at one point in the far distant past very possible, then once the statist genie was out of the bottle it became nigh impossible, and now that we have the internet it is once again becoming possible.",,Anonymous,16508673_10154574588448935_8782938344861213159_n.jpg,6dbGzMEVZ/kuSx5r1HQZgA==,US,,1492976174 122501377,122508519,2017-04-23 19:36:19,">>122507654 they could do just what they do today when someone spreads lies about a company (this happens a lot in facebook), they would explain themselfs and debunk the hoaxes.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1492976179 122501377,122508652,2017-04-23 19:37:21,">>122508307 Telling people you're Mr. Jones when you're actually Mr. Smith is fraud. It's a form of deception, ergo any contracts made would be null and void.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492976241 122501377,122509016,2017-04-23 19:40:07,">>122508519 >they could do just what they do today What they do nowadays is sue on the basis of copyright laws. You're using our name or logo without permission? Say hello to our lawyers. Disney also does this whenever somebody tries to use their copyrighted characters without permission. >>122508652 On what basis? Unless your name and logos are copyrighted, you don't ""own"" them at all. Sure, you can claim that somebody else is copying you, but you can't do anything about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492976407 122587718,122587718,2017-04-24 09:53:31,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - THE LEFT IS THE GREATEST THREAT TO SOVEREIGNTY,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1493027611 122587718,122587768,2017-04-24 09:53:59,,,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1493027639 122587718,122587806,2017-04-24 09:54:21,,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1493027661 122587718,122587835,2017-04-24 09:54:41,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1493027681 122587718,122587870,2017-04-24 09:55:01,,,Anonymous,Mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,US,,1493027701 122587718,122588033,2017-04-24 09:56:24,"To pursue the end of private property is to violate the terms of non-aggression. Please understand this or GTFO.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1493027784 122587718,122588835,2017-04-24 10:04:10,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1493028250 122587718,122589280,2017-04-24 10:08:33,,,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1493028513 122587718,122589542,2017-04-24 10:11:15,"I'm down, fuck commies!",,Anonymous,leftiesconfusingnames.png,Ba+bJ9CDeHaw95YWJzuYpw==,US,,1493028675 122587718,122589885,2017-04-24 10:14:26,>>122589542,,Anonymous,RPV19Q4LN1KlFo8PK732zajI2wuGMz6kfPIsGakF37I.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,US,,1493028866 122587718,122590180,2017-04-24 10:18:00,,,Anonymous,FUCK_REDDIT.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1493029080 122587718,122590495,2017-04-24 10:20:55,,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1493029255 122587718,122590795,2017-04-24 10:23:54,Bump.,,Anonymous,The_Humane_thing_to_do.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1493029434 122587718,122590954,2017-04-24 10:25:27,">>122587718 Do we really have to include ancaps?",,Anonymous,IMG_6089.png,dxwFEQ0xuyVCr1UEfqetrQ==,US,,1493029527 122587718,122591249,2017-04-24 10:28:52,">>122590954 yeah, but just bully the redditor ancaps, taxation is theft memers and so on. Anarcho-Capitalism is fine. Hoppe is based. pic related.",,Anonymous,Normal_Ancap.png,0cj87/YtlHkwyisfLCRUVQ==,US,,1493029732 122587718,122591712,2017-04-24 10:33:51,"it's funny when commies try to use ""muh NAP"" as an argument as to why they should not be removed from society commies gave up any right they had the moment they decided to embrace the most statist economically absurd anti-western ideology in the history of mankind",,Anonymous,rifle woman.png,4VjqrjbDXhJUJ7Vi4cFK8Q==,PT,,1493030031 122587718,122592212,2017-04-24 10:38:55,">>122591712 Communists most disgusting deceptive peices of shit there are. there can be no tolerance for their faggotry.",,Anonymous,1487112015571.jpg,wAN/SS/0WQCGLyjV2gh4CQ==,US,,1493030335 122587718,122592974,2017-04-24 10:46:21,,,Anonymous,snek (18).png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,US,,1493030781 122587718,122593950,2017-04-24 10:55:54,">>122587718 >Libertarians are cucks !!!! >I studied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself. -Alexis de Tocqueville How can statists ever recover ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493031354 122587718,122594560,2017-04-24 11:01:52,">>122593950 ""Tocqueville saw democracy as an equation that balanced liberty and equality""",,Anonymous,The+anons+are+onery+at+this+hour+_066827a1a8b2ff8f955ea02a574729fb.jpg,sP6/IMd/o5wl2ASx/naA9Q==,US,,1493031712 122587718,122594744,2017-04-24 11:03:39,"Some commies getting removed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuhP1oZGB5I",,Anonymous,e9VmQoXypGU-z-yZLUkjKLrSqofM-23_r25SNrNDy2I.jpg,5JwavePodUJvI99xbAwSyg==,US,,1493031819 122587718,122594863,2017-04-24 11:04:56,">>122594560 you can't be always right he is from the 19th century,surely he never saw a socialist party in power",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493031896 122587718,122595084,2017-04-24 11:06:57,">>122587718 >libertarian >idolizing a man in your logo Please kill yourselfn",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493032017 122587718,122595249,2017-04-24 11:08:44,">>122594863 yeah he looks like an alright guy. >>122595084 I have many logos. have another one.",,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1493032124 122587718,122595309,2017-04-24 11:09:17,>>122595084,,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1493032157 122587718,122595648,2017-04-24 11:12:23,">>122593950 Minarchism is the white man's ideology. The idea of limited government has it's root back in Ancient Greece and Rome (viz a viz. Republicanism). It was later refined by the British and Anglo-Americans. Only to later be developed further by Germans. National Socialism is rooted in economic illiteracy and is merely an excuse to subjugate other white's as slaves in name of ethnic nationalism. The idea you need to bloated government to keep a country white is blatantly absurd. It was through the expanse of the state that the Left has hijacked Western civilization, and it's by rolling back the scope of government that we can hope to fight back.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493032343 122587718,122595915,2017-04-24 11:14:51,bump cuz fuck commies,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493032491 122587718,122596086,2017-04-24 11:16:37,">>122595648 If I was fuhrer I'd run it as a minarchy, but im skeptical of ""limited goverment."" My country has a constitution that is supposed to limit goverment, but the goverment just says ""its okay 30 round mags/assault weapons aren't protected under the constitution"" and we get fucked anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493032597 122587718,122596401,2017-04-24 11:19:34,">>122596086 Monarchy would be better than a dictatorship IMO. America is the way it is now because it's abandoned it's Christian heritage and has been under attack from many rogue elements. Ultimately we should model government after the Bible our goal should be set on winning people to Christ.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493032774 122587718,122596513,2017-04-24 11:20:35,">>122587718 What does Elton John have to do with the libertarian right?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493032835 122587718,122596561,2017-04-24 11:21:00,">>122596401 by putting moral people in charge but not by forcing morality right ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493032860 122587718,122596707,2017-04-24 11:22:07,>>122596513,,Anonymous,1490024308005.jpg,Grw9oJ1492NpHa45Q6f97g==,US,,1493032927 122587718,122596783,2017-04-24 11:22:53,">>122596561 I do not understand what you are asking",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493032973 122587718,122596805,2017-04-24 11:23:04,">>122596513 wut ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493032984 122587718,122596923,2017-04-24 11:24:14,">>122596783 It was a Washington quote reference",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493033054 122587718,122597214,2017-04-24 11:26:51,"Shouldn't we have separate threads for right libertarianism and anarcho capitalism? It's not that I don't like the ancap ideology but I think there should be a place for discussion of the Tea Party or UKIP or how bad the US Libertarian party is and etc, and these threads are always filled with questions and discussions about anarchism. I get that we want more activity by merging threads but there's not a lot of talk about libertarianism in the current democratic system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493033211 122587718,122597347,2017-04-24 11:28:06,"Look at them Huginn, look at them and laugh.",,Anonymous,1490699587308.jpg,K9cvkqI1YNiGOl/kUoQTPw==,GB,,1493033286 122587718,122597429,2017-04-24 11:28:56,">>122597214 No. Right libertarianism encompasses minarchism (state should provide defense, courts and police) and anarcho-capitalism. It is also conservative and based off Christian morality. You have communes where gays, communists and socialists are not allowed.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493033336 122587718,122597538,2017-04-24 11:29:48,">>122587718 Reminder that libertarians are cucks who voted for Fillon instead of Le Pen.",,Anonymous,results.png,OT5D+SpJK9aG+tn0bb3SVg==,US,,1493033388 122587718,122597551,2017-04-24 11:29:56,">>122587718 Is Macron /ourguy/?",,Anonymous,095112.png,YWN6bnEOgPRaduL8jwWpvg==,US,,1493033396 122587718,122597641,2017-04-24 11:30:46,">>122597214 not our fault non-libertarian always think about ancapism and ignore the rest even if we split /lrg/ would still be full of starwman questions like ""XDDDDD I control the world monopoly debate me ancaps"" the hivemind is real >>122597347 >can't last 12 years >thinks he is the smug one here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493033446 122587718,122597701,2017-04-24 11:31:20,">>122597214 Talk about current events. no one is stopping you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493033480 122587718,122597711,2017-04-24 11:31:25,">>122597214 I have a question for the anarchists. In anarcho-capitalism we would have communes where people live and work. What if certain communes were run by Muslims and they imposed Shari'a law? What if someone enters into their commune and violates a law that requires the death penalty, but say that person belongs to a commune where the crime isn't a capital offense. The response would be that the DRO would take the issue to a third party court/firm but what if the Muslims are adamant about punishing the person.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493033485 122587718,122597835,2017-04-24 11:32:22,">>122597551 Fillon isn't libertarian >>122597551 >EU cuck >/ourguy/ nope",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493033542 122587718,122597859,2017-04-24 11:32:33,">>122587718 >pushing the Shylock view of money",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493033553 122587718,122598166,2017-04-24 11:34:05,">Be me >College student >Find out the Socialist Equality Party is preaching on campus >run Shitlord.exe >Go find the SEP >Pretend to be interested in their beliefs >run showyourprocess.exe >Socialist bitch starts yackin >Tells me they're gonna organize a worker's revolution >Says they'll then convince all the workers to tell the elite they won't fight their wars for them anymore >I say interesting, what next? >She starts talkin in circles >Smug ass look on my face >Finally burst out laughing >Tell them taxation is theft and their ideology killed 100,000,000+/- people >successful russling of the jimmies",,Anonymous,ancap meme.png,Az2whL6/iF9IPWIrYWdbLQ==,US,,1493033645 122587718,122598283,2017-04-24 11:35:02,">>122597711 he entered a muslim filled commune,if the owners are muslim salafists then he has a right to impose shar'ia on his property also I don't think people with a triple digits IQ would join this group while being a transracial gay tranny",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493033702 122587718,122598335,2017-04-24 11:35:31,">>122597538 It's a problem with libertarianism. If a politician says ""muh free market"" then immediately nearly every libertarian creams their underwear and starts supporting him, no matter if he supports the European Union, globalism, open borders (which would increase welfare spending and thus the state)... I'm ancap and I rooted for Farage, Trump, Wilders and now LePen. The State won't collapse in our lifetime, so we might as well keep it the hell away from socialists and socdems.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493033731 122587718,122598513,2017-04-24 11:37:08,">>122597711 I doubt a violent muslim covenant could form without legitimately, without aggression. they'd get the chopper in the forming of ancapistan. >>122597859 Do as jews do not as jew say. >>122598335 >The State won't collapse in our lifetime, so we might as well keep it the hell away from socialists and socdems. i agree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493033828 122587718,122598565,2017-04-24 11:37:37,">>122598513 could form legitimately*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493033857 122587718,122598613,2017-04-24 11:38:06,">>122598335 how can someone be in favor of free-market and at the same time be pro-EU when his parliament is the DEFINITION of crony capitalism I never understand these idiots",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493033886 122587718,122598680,2017-04-24 11:38:39,">>122598335 >The State won't collapse in our lifetime The only way the state would ever fully collapse is if humans completely disappeared. As long as you have large numbers of humans living in close proximity to each other, government of some sort will exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493033919 122587718,122598683,2017-04-24 11:38:39,">>122598513 > I doubt a violent muslim covenant could form without legitimately, without aggression. they'd get the chopper in the forming of ancapistan. Why do suppose that? What if Muslim bought up property and sold it to other Muslims and enforced Shari'a law on their own territory. Would you have a problem with this? Why couldn't such a covenant exist.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493033919 122587718,122599007,2017-04-24 11:41:13,">>122598683 the problem is that Muslims are by definition invasive so very few of these communes would exist peacefuuly",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493034073 122587718,122599024,2017-04-24 11:41:22,">>122587718 Why doesn't /lrg/ ever talk about actual libertarian right politicians?",,Anonymous,Rand.png,gcgWN4vZqUkk7lcXA9WkVQ==,US,,1493034082 122587718,122599117,2017-04-24 11:42:18,">>122599007 So what? If other Muslims consent to live by those ""invasive"" laws why would that be a problem?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493034138 122587718,122599126,2017-04-24 11:42:23,">>122598613 Because they're not exactly libertarians. They're just regular social democrats (what modern americans would call Liberals) that are just a bit more in favor of not a truly free market, but big corporations and crony capitalism. Many of them support laws against racism, open borders, all this leftist crap. A true libertarian would never entirely support the violation of property rights such as those. A libertarian would also never support a government, so it would NEVER support a government of governments such as the EU.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493034143 122587718,122599170,2017-04-24 11:42:46,">>122597641 It could be two different clearly marked threads. There could even be a different name for the libertarian one and LRG can stay with the ancaps since it's traditionally an anarchist thread. I don't know. I might try making one. /1776/ general or something, and seeing how it does. I feel like ancapistan has a better chance of existing if we focus on a few of the channels that are available right now politically.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493034166 122587718,122599324,2017-04-24 11:44:24,">>122597711 >What if certain communes were run by Muslims and they imposed Shari'a law? They could only apply Sharia to the people that voluntarily submitted to them and lived on the covenant. There most likely would be provisions between insurers when a person of one faith comes into conflict with a person of another faith. If the Muslim was really adamant about punishing the person, the companies would really, really have to strive toward making him back down, otherwise they'd lose funds from people who didn't like them losing a case to a sandnigger.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493034264 122587718,122599413,2017-04-24 11:45:12,">>122599117 invasive on non-muslims >>122599024 it doesn't exist in france,we only have conservatives who nevr pass their laws because ""muh strikes"" and social-traitors they are corporate cronyist who impose leftists policies (Macron is a pure social-traitor)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493034312 122587718,122599460,2017-04-24 11:45:41,"Hoppe will be in Malta this July, organized by a libertarian right association, I'm going for sure.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493034341 122587718,122599520,2017-04-24 11:46:21,">>122599324 I would imagine that most firms would back out, Given that he entered their commune knowing full well the reprecussions.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493034381 122587718,122599552,2017-04-24 11:46:38,">>122598683 not that it isn't theorectically possible for them to gain property without violent force, but historically they have proven themselves incapable of being civil. terrorist attacks on non-muslim countries and so on. >>122599170 just talk about current politics, im an ancap and would love to talk some real strategy and real people to support.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493034398 122587718,122599754,2017-04-24 11:48:41,">>122587718 Itt:Autism and larping",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493034521 122587718,122599832,2017-04-24 11:49:23,">>122599552 > not that it isn't theorectically possible for them to gain property without violent force, but historically they have proven themselves incapable of being civil. terrorist attacks on non-muslim countries and so on. Muslims in Australia have bought out suburbs and only sold it to themselves? So in the hypothetical it would seem that it would be fair to allow the commune to punish that individual. You seem to be fumbling.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493034563 122587718,122599923,2017-04-24 11:50:11,">>122599520 Yeah, I'm sure companies would tell their customers not to go to those places just as travel agencies recommend not going to terrorist-controlled places. Or they would not include Muslim communes in their ""covered"" area. >>122599460 Really?! I'm jelly kek What's the name of the event? Record that shit man. And ask him if he knows about his internet fandom. Imagine if he himself saw the videos we make of him kek.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1493034611 122587718,122600070,2017-04-24 11:51:31,">>122599923 So would communes in an ancap society just be fenced off cities?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493034691 122587718,122600266,2017-04-24 11:53:18,The convo on muslims brings up an interesting question; should it be an unspoken rule that the free market be inclusive to all customers?,,Anonymous,zodiac how does one do that.jpg,gb3Oee6vNMXZ4HE7mFdaSw==,US,,1493034798 122587718,122600286,2017-04-24 11:53:31,">>122600070 Pretty much, yes. Not to say they'd be in permanent war with each other (war raises premium costs and defense costs) but covenants would be specifically formed by many volunteers to protect and foster a certain lifestyle.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493034811 122587718,122600312,2017-04-24 11:53:46,">>122600070 depends if they discriminate X or not",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493034826 122587718,122600391,2017-04-24 11:54:31,">>122600266 It's usually inclusive to people who respect private property and don't steal/cause ruckuses.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493034871 122587718,122600548,2017-04-24 11:55:59,">>122600391 >>122600312 >>122600286 So could a certain Christian commune disallow blasphemous forms of expression and punish it? Say some atheist who made blasphemous remarks towards the Christian God ends up in a Christian commune and the commune kills him what would ensue?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493034959 122587718,122600572,2017-04-24 11:56:14,">>122600391 So in that case, it comes down to simply weeding out those who violate the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493034974 122587718,122600730,2017-04-24 11:57:53,">>122600548 Feels to me like what we're slowly coming to the conclusion of is that most religions that have come from the Middle East inherently seem to cause violence",,Anonymous,bobby reacts.jpg,g8f5+cz0fBg7+ChIz0ER3A==,US,,1493035073 122587718,122600761,2017-04-24 11:58:06,">>122600266 inclusive to those who respect private property. I'm not gonna sell food/weapons/property to radical kebabs. >>122600572 yes, you must not tolerate uncivil people in a civil libertarian order, such as communists or terrorists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493035086 122587718,122600818,2017-04-24 11:58:33,">>122600266 Entrepreneurs would tend to want the greatest amount of customers possible, so while there would certainly be many cases of christian bakers denying cakes to gay couples, but in general the free market would try to be as inclusive as possible because that's profitable. It would however tend to segregate those who hurt the entrepreneur's property; for example, you wouldn't rent your house to a bunch of violent criminals who would destroy your property.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493035113 122587718,122600890,2017-04-24 11:59:18,">>122600818 >couples, in general No ""but"" there. Autofix'd.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493035158 122587718,122600920,2017-04-24 11:59:32,">>122599923 Corax conference 2017, with kokesh, Brendan O'Neill and Julie borowski",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493035172 122587718,122600989,2017-04-24 12:00:21,">>122600548 Killing someone who has not killed anyone is a perversion of law since the punishment grossly overshadows the crime (and is even worse); it would therefore not be very popular among people or insurance agencies, not even in religious communes. People wouldn't want to submit themselves to a death penalty too just so another person also submitted himself. >>122600572 More or less, yes, with further discrimination only occurring whenever the two parties have conflicts of interests (think gay couples and bakeries, since that's a popular one).",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493035221 122587718,122601033,2017-04-24 12:00:43,">>122600548 This is a difficult question if we ignore how he got there in the first place. It depends on whither basic human rights are globally enforced or not, which I could see as possibly being a necessity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493035243 122587718,122601099,2017-04-24 12:01:22,">>122600548 like in a terms of conditions,the owner should beware that his communes is ""for those who follow the right path of Christ only"",if it's the case he can kill the atheist,but in a practical way,he would deport him so there won't be the ""recreational nuke :DDDD"" scenario",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493035282 122587718,122601192,2017-04-24 12:02:15,">>122600818 >you wouldn't rent your house to a bunch of violent criminals who would destroy your property. ie niggers",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493035335 122587718,122601214,2017-04-24 12:02:29,">>122599552 Well, I think we need to try to get some kind of Tea Party support going even though it's 2017 now and everyone has forgotten about that. That's partly why I suggested a new thread, to see how popular they are and to get all the support in one place. It's a decentralized movement that I feel aligns well with LRG, it makes perfect sense for pol to support it. We've already seen in the last year how much internet support and memes can grow a movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493035349 122587718,122601227,2017-04-24 12:02:38,">>122600920 Noice. great job Maltabro, make sure you bring your Democracy and have Hoppe sign it.",,Anonymous,1442623-1-L.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,PT,,1493035358 122587718,122601349,2017-04-24 12:03:56,">>122600989 But now we're getting into a discussion of morals when it comes to discussing the death penalty for crimes that did not involve the death of someone. For example, I personally have no problem personally executing a child rapist with a 20+ victim count, even though all of his victims survived. How do we determine the concept of a just execution when the dictations of the NAP are strictly adherent to ""eye for an eye"" execution practices? In other words, who do we account determine if someone deserves to die for their crimes even if they didn't kill someone?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493035436 122587718,122601350,2017-04-24 12:03:56,">>122600730 I think society should be governed by biblical law. Old Testament law specifically. However biblical law and Shari'a law are opposed to each other. Biblical law is clear cut and to the point with not much fluff. It's opposed to tyranny and statism. Shari'a is intrusive. >>122600989 > Killing someone who has not killed anyone is a perversion of law since the punishment grossly overshadows the crime (and is even worse); it would therefore not be very popular among people or insurance agencies, not even in religious communes. People wouldn't want to submit themselves to a death penalty too just so another person also submitted himself. I would disagree justice is what God defines it to be. >>122601033 I don't know but I would be for enforcing such laws on people within my commune. >>122600920 I think Julie is better than say ""libertarians"" like Lauren Southern, I don't think she's done much besides run a YT channel.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493035436 122587718,122601527,2017-04-24 12:05:52,">>122601214 I've heard a bit about the tea party having some kind of comeback, but is that really all we have? Don't we have some other active movements?",,Anonymous,efa372d1c26d2359176a07034294654d0f1d54ef8aef2ee567a6b82053a1c962.png,VIoxRrdj/QDu/Xzks6O58Q==,US,,1493035552 122587718,122601739,2017-04-24 12:07:45,">>122601350 >Wants biblical law >Sharia is intrusive, but biblical isn't >Forgets that a huge part of old testament biblical law involves huge and gross violations of the NAP >Also forgets Separation of church and state Bruh, are you sure you belong on a Libertarian thread?",,Anonymous,40 keks.jpg,A3pvKaN/dcUOhE4PThv85Q==,US,,1493035665 122587718,122601866,2017-04-24 12:09:00,">>122601349 Rothbard precisely calls it the ""eye for an eye"" redistributive justice theory. The rapist couldn't be murdered, but he could suffer rough beatings from the victim/victim's parents/representatives as well as a few broken bones and what-not. Not to say I'd have a problem with killing a child rapist myself, but from what I've read so far it seems that all crimes require proportional punishment. Only murder could render the criminal completely devoid of his self-ownership and thus become a permanent slave to his victim's representatives. >>122601350 Alright, that's fair, but you'd still have to most likely have contingency plans for dealing with atheists/people of other religions if they happened to commit a serious crime on your property. Most likely your insurance agencies would sort it out, lest there'd be an enormous scandal that affected dozens of lives.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493035740 122587718,122601942,2017-04-24 12:09:45,">>122601739 I am economically libertarian. I believe the government (as I stated above) should only run the courts, police and defense. The difference is what laws I would enforce compared to a libertarian. The NAP is worthless. It can't be defended philosophically. Atheism is morally bankrupt. Man has value because he is in God's image.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493035785 122587718,122602109,2017-04-24 12:11:20,">>122601349 Suppose you've stole $100 from OP. You have subtracted the right that OP had to his thousand bucks. The NAP stipulates that you would have to give back his money plus some interest; that covers for the cost of opportunity he lost, inflation during the period, the cost for recovering his money and so on. Now let's take a murderer as an example. When they decided to murder another individual, they have subtracted that individual's right to life. No amount of reparation he can pay, no amount of work they can possibly do will bring back the deceased. The only equal reparation would be the murderer's death. I'm not sure how it would work for very severe crimes (such as a child rapist with 20+ victim count), but you can be assured that he will not have an easy life in no way.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493035880 122587718,122602205,2017-04-24 12:12:05,">>122601866 A proportional punishment in the case of rape would involve raping the rapist or, if he has children, raping them. Not to mention, it's an inherent truth that rapists will inevitably commit the same crime again. That's just a biological fact; If they don't act upon their urges, all they'll do is sit and fantasize, and little to know scientific evidence has rendered any conclusion that child rapists are in fact capable of rehabilitation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493035925 122587718,122602279,2017-04-24 12:12:45,">>122602109 >very severe crimes without any objective deaths Fixed again. God, I'm slow today.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493035965 122587718,122602446,2017-04-24 12:14:06,">>122599460 That's fucking sweet.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493036046 122587718,122602523,2017-04-24 12:14:42,">>122602205 >A proportional punishment in the case of rape would involve raping the rapist this would be ok >or, if he has children, raping them this would not be ok, Jesus Christ But why are we even discussing this if we all know rapists would be denied entrance almost everywhere and be shunned by almost everyone? Even in prison child rapists usually get beatings or the rope, and we already live in degenerate times.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493036082 122587718,122602626,2017-04-24 12:15:28,">>122601527 The Libertarian Party? But they're reddit tier, it's better to support Tea Party Republicans. The Libertarians and Greens showed why third parties don't work here, it's better to change an existing party from the inside, which Trump was already able to do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493036128 122587718,122602666,2017-04-24 12:15:49,">>122601942 >The NAP is worthless. It can't be defended philosophically. >Forgets that Old Testament law is littered with laws that cannot be philosophically, morally, legally, or practically defended. Riiiight, here's a question for ya, buddy. How do you attest for people like me who are pagan and don't want biblical law? You can't. Law must and always should be kept completely and 100% secular in all shapes and forms.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493036149 122587718,122602769,2017-04-24 12:16:54,">>122602109 Here's an interesting prospect: Should a person commit a murder, and everyone is quite certain that they committed it, but does not have irrefutable proof, what would need to be done as punishment? Clearly it would be morally objectionable to execute someone who could be innocent, but in the absence of other suspects the person is considered guilty and must be punished. What would be an alternative punishment for a probable murder?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493036214 122587718,122602970,2017-04-24 12:18:40,">>122587718 Something like this would never happen in an ancap society. One person would own the entire river and nobody else would be allowed in.",,Anonymous,1492802382918.jpg,8ayLddjWR7MA72qbBLFh0Q==,US,,1493036320 122587718,122602982,2017-04-24 12:18:45,">>122602523 Sorry about that, I forgot to include that I was talking about a child rapist. But even still, that's my point; there are plenty of cases where the ""eye for an eye"" system doesn't work because it lacks any ability to abide social morality and exert moral superiority over an aggressor. Even if a child rapist was subject to this law, why would anyone want to do that to him or his children (should he have any)? The answer is, no one would except for people like him. To prevent his inevitable repeating of his crimes, I argue the only logical punishment is death",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493036325 122587718,122603036,2017-04-24 12:19:17,">TAXATION IS THEFT AND COMMIES SHOULD BE PHYSICALLY REMOVED, SO TO SPEAK! This is literally my motto.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493036357 122587718,122603126,2017-04-24 12:20:02,">>122602666 > Riiiight, here's a question for ya, buddy. How do you attest for people like me who are pagan and don't want biblical law? Don't live in my commune, but if you do keep worship private otherwise face death. > You can't. Law must and always should be kept completely and 100% secular in all shapes and forms. Secular law is religious. It's shaped after the religion of humanism. Also in a Christian commune all people regardless of their faith would be permitted in but with certain restrictions of course on what they can do regarding speech (can't blaspheme - this does not mean questioning Christianity or offering a refutation of a theistic proof or etc but rather directly invoking Jehovah's name and insulting him publically) and unbiblical worship not directed to the Trinity would be a capital offense).",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493036402 122587718,122603266,2017-04-24 12:21:13,">>122602970 good luck buying all that ocean if you have to homestead it first",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493036473 122587718,122603272,2017-04-24 12:21:16,">>122602970 You're correct, no event has ever occurred on private land in the history of humanity.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493036476 122587718,122603328,2017-04-24 12:21:48,">>122602970 This is a problem that could be solved by allowing neighboring communities to object to the rules of one community, but this also seems like a slippery slope. Anyone else have any ideas on how these types of issues could be solved?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493036508 122587718,122603713,2017-04-24 12:25:09,">>122602626 I agree, its best to support our constitutional, and Tea Party republicans. Most of /pol/ outside of /lrg/ already do this. aside from the natsoc people who think capitalism is evil. Anyway we're riding the trump train whether or not we like it. theres not much libertarian politicians can do right now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493036709 122587718,122603748,2017-04-24 12:25:28,"Hey /lrg/ team, new fag lurker here, was hoping someone could help me figure out some relevant reading on a subject im keen to study further. I am interested in the way people adopt and follow certain cues and people through (for example) the social media channels. What is it all about and why do some become trendsetters, etc. Psychological economic, behavioural models, behavioural economics. To me, it all starts with our *imitation* tendency. We copy behaviours that seem to be successful in other people's uses. Why? Because it is economical to do so. If we all needed to invent the wheel anew, it would cost a lot, of course. How do we know who to imitate then? We try to look for cues that indicate success in other people. Our minds expect connection between past and present success and that of the future. So we simply try to find out who is popular for instance and imitate or do whatever they say. This is how the social media operates. We save a lot of effort when we rely on popularity as we calculate that the concerted action of other people indicates success. Besides, if we turn out to be wrong, we are wrong collectively and that is always easier for us to bear. Firms also follow simple rules here. They observe and find out who are the ones that others follow, and they target these trendsetters. From the firm's perspective, it is also a cost saving and profit maximising way, as they know how this psychology operates among people.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493036728 122587718,122603762,2017-04-24 12:25:36,Slight derail faggots but if we took it democratically how the fuck would we fix higher education? I guess you would have to introduce a gay graduate tax and at the same time slowly decrease student loans at a faster pace than you would be reducing the graduate tax to eventually hit no loans and then you can get rid of graduate tax but this is the best scenario and I think higher education is just permanently fucked.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493036736 122587718,122603779,2017-04-24 12:25:46,">>122603748 I am interested in the behavioural models, such as how does someone become a trendsetter and while others remain followers? When we model that, the concept of ""critical mass"" becomes central. As soon as someone's public presence for some reason pops up just slightly more than with others, all these others start to look at the one rising and that creates prominence for the one rising. You know, it is just like the model of self-fulfilling prophecy: people start to expect this one to be worth of imitating and that alone also pushes her popularity up. People create popularity by believing that others see her popularity as well. They all strengthen each other's expectations",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493036746 122587718,122603786,2017-04-24 12:25:49,">>122603328 It's not an issue, get the fuck off of my river.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493036749 122587718,122604064,2017-04-24 12:28:09,">>122603328 The solution is just to have public areas that anybody can use so long as they aren't interfering with other people's enjoyment of said space. You know, like we already do. All this ancap bullshit just makes simple interactions absurdly complicated for no reason.",,Anonymous,s4dTtBy.jpg,rvHGDaxbyOUhhuLyq76EiQ==,US,,1493036889 122587718,122604137,2017-04-24 12:28:41,">>122603748 imitate no one but yourself. >muh liberty and independence",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493036921 122587718,122604303,2017-04-24 12:29:57,">>122604064 >what is the commons",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493036997 122587718,122604361,2017-04-24 12:30:28,">>122603748 It sounds like a theory of supply (e.g. popular youtubers) and demand (e.g. impressionable viewers). Lets take the anti-SJW movement. As demand increases, those with supply see a rise in their viewership and fandome relative to others (e.g. Milo), however over time, the market becomes saturated as others (Lauren Southern) moves in.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493037028 122587718,122604400,2017-04-24 12:30:49,">>122602769 There is a number of possibilities there. The most obvious one is that such ostracism would make it impossible for such individual to form contracts; in other words, he most likely won't be able to get a job, rent or buy a house, invest, or even join a club. That would force him >>>/out/ of such community. If eventually proof was found that he did commit the murder, the NAP applies. I would also wish to formulate the opposite hypothesis, everyone thinks that someone committed a murder that they didn't. The same would likely happen. That would indeed be a mistake; but remember that the alternative that is state-run courts and laws has the tendency to make far worse mistakes (like why is Hillary Clinton not in jail?). That said, you must also understand that libertarianism and the NAP are not about finding the solution to every single problem mankind faces such as the ostracization of an innocent person, which is prone to happen on Anarchocapitalism or on full-blown Communism, but finding the most ethical solution to problems that we can solve. For many reasons, it would be more ethical to be judged by private courts and your community rather than state courts.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493037049 122587718,122604402,2017-04-24 12:30:50,">>122591249 Taxation is fucking theft though. That is why we should tax all imports 5% and abolish all internal taxstion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037050 122587718,122604516,2017-04-24 12:31:42,">>122603786 You kid, but seriously, if this was the case with a major river something would need to be done. That's assuming the owner also refused to sell the land for any amount of money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037102 122587718,122604519,2017-04-24 12:31:44,">>122604303 >Normal interaction in statist society ""Oh hi bob, how's the kids doing?"" >Normal interaction in ancap society ""Oh hi bob, say can you sign this contract where you agree not to murder or rape me?"" >>122604402 Taxation is literally no different than paying rent. You agreed to it by choosing to live in the US.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037104 122587718,122604532,2017-04-24 12:31:52,">>122591249 to be fair /r/Anarcho_Capitalism isn't too bad due to its incredibly lax moderation policy. I'd stay say the majority of us are right wing ancaps against open borders and other leftist lunacy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493037112 122587718,122604622,2017-04-24 12:32:40,">>122604402 >Taxation is fucking theft though. >That is why we should tax all imports Import tax is a tax on the consumer. The exporter just hikes the prices by 5%.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493037160 122587718,122604802,2017-04-24 12:34:12,">>122604519 No rent is a contract, very different to taxation which is extortion. Without realising you've advocated for Libertarian policies.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493037252 122587718,122604805,2017-04-24 12:34:14,">>122604519 :^)",,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1493037254 122587718,122604866,2017-04-24 12:34:47,">>122604519 >implying the government is the legitimate owner of the land It would be like saying if you move into my neighbourhood you consent to me shitting on your lawn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTqEePlZiqk",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493037287 122587718,122604927,2017-04-24 12:35:20,">open borders >gun control Weld is a massive faggot and I'm glad the party managed to embarrass itself again not getting the 5%.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037320 122587718,122604965,2017-04-24 12:35:38,">>122604402 >>122604532 yeah, taxation is theft. I'm talking about the faggot culture surrounding reddit ancapism, and ""left-ancapists"" types that believe that a libertarian social order would be their commie paradise.",,Anonymous,15747803_1210080112393639_3667069045120882624_n.png,Cy1MSoRj2WJ1rtGgvuSLbQ==,US,,1493037338 122587718,122605091,2017-04-24 12:36:45,>>122603272,,Anonymous,1492283892256.jpg,VIRwIDHrME/NSENWJq80Pg==,US,,1493037405 122587718,122605112,2017-04-24 12:36:57,">>122604402 >That is why we should tax all imports 5% That's one of the worse kinds of taxation there is, only second to income tax. In Brazil... >imports under $50 are not taxed >imports over $100 are taxed by a crazy formula (60% of product value plus additional taxes) >imports over $300 are taxed if brought through our physical borders (from Paraguay, Argentina etc) according to yet another formula >some items cannot be imported at all; you can't buy a car in another country and bring it here unless it's older than 20 years >government actively pursuits to put an end to imports supposedly to protect our industry; attempts to force companies from other countries to produce products locally, so literally everything produced in Brazil fucking sucks So yeah, that's why I don't support even in the slightest import tariffs.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493037417 122587718,122605191,2017-04-24 12:37:35,">>122604927 This <3 A 1776er",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037455 122587718,122605242,2017-04-24 12:38:00,"Why are all libertarians put into an ancap box? Are you all really ancaps?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037480 122587718,122605261,2017-04-24 12:38:09,">>122604519 No. Taxation is theft. A constitutional sized government would not require a tax.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037489 122587718,122605279,2017-04-24 12:38:16,">>122604802 Taxes are also a contract. When you move to a new country and apply for citizenship or residence you have to agree to be subject to the laws of that territory. By agreeing to that, you agree to the taxes involved as well.",,Anonymous,1441488207854.gif,AGXyjopUd2weA4tyGW419Q==,US,,1493037496 122587718,122605419,2017-04-24 12:39:24,">>122605242 some are some aren't. a ""pure libertarian"" is an ancap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037564 122587718,122605426,2017-04-24 12:39:26,">>122605261 >Constitutionally sized government WTF does that mean? Every government has a different constitution designed to serve its particular circumstances, history, and values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037566 122587718,122605524,2017-04-24 12:40:15,">>122605242 If you stay here long enough you'll realise that ancap is the logical conclusion. Saying that, I'm still a Minarchist. >>122605279 >When you move to a new country",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493037615 122587718,122605714,2017-04-24 12:41:52,">>122604622 So. We can make our own shit if we don't want to pay extra. Not to mention that an extra few cents on china made crap won't really effect me while I am paying 0% income tax, 0% capital gains tax, 0% social security, ect. We can have 0 regulations and internal government bodies. Our government will deal only with bo citizens.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037712 122587718,122605755,2017-04-24 12:42:08,>>122604965,,Anonymous,1488073057336.jpg,NLyzUXd7IM+NR3g8e7kiXA==,US,,1493037728 122587718,122605798,2017-04-24 12:42:28,">>122604965 Commies suck desu.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037748 122587718,122605832,2017-04-24 12:42:46,"Does anyone have sweating snek who has to decide between following NAP or throwing communists out of helicopters, then finds the button about communists not being people?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037766 122587718,122605959,2017-04-24 12:43:45,">>122605112 All imports taxed at 5%. No other taxes. Government only deals with noncitizens.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037825 122587718,122606009,2017-04-24 12:44:06,">>122605714 >We can have 0 regulations and internal government bodies Who defends the borders then? Who enforces laws and contracts? Who builds roads and infrastructure? Looks like you didn't really think this one through.",,Anonymous,1493027129065.jpg,jwgYraFBpevqt/S0PtZD9Q==,US,,1493037846 122587718,122606048,2017-04-24 12:44:25,">>122605714 The matter in which the money is collated is of no relevance - it all results in a tax on your standard of living.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493037865 122587718,122606124,2017-04-24 12:44:56,">>122605959 You're still distorting the economy. And it's still unethical.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493037896 122587718,122606269,2017-04-24 12:46:13,">>122605426 American Constitution. Almost all government services are unconstitutional in nature, and are a drain on the will power and productiveness of the free American people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493037973 122587718,122606271,2017-04-24 12:46:14,">>122606009 You've been in here for weeks now and although I admire your persistence and interesting questions you have never once advocated for a better system or stumped anyone here. What is your end goal? Both of those questions you've asked has already been answered multiple times.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493037974 122587718,122606371,2017-04-24 12:47:14,">>122605755 pretty topkek desu",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493038034 122587718,122606559,2017-04-24 12:48:45,">>122606009 The boarders will be defended by private military contractors and civilians. We can use the saved surplus from our 5% import to pay for local projection of forces and supplies ect.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038125 122587718,122606611,2017-04-24 12:49:16,">>122605524 Respectfully, if you stay anywhere long enough you will agree with them no matter how nutty their ideas are. Not saying you're nuts, just saying that is how your brain works.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038156 122587718,122606699,2017-04-24 12:49:56,">>122606009 >Who defends the borders then? Those do not depend on regulations. >Who enforces laws and contracts? Those also do not depend on regulations. >Who builds roads and infrastructure? Muh roads, in >2011+6, really?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493038196 122587718,122606735,2017-04-24 12:50:18,">>122606048 5% import tax doesn't really effect your standard of living.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038218 122587718,122606765,2017-04-24 12:50:34,>>122606371,,Anonymous,1491933012092.jpg,4pZhS9kM6lfeHWFVYvqPxA==,US,,1493038234 122587718,122606772,2017-04-24 12:50:38,">>122606271 It hasn't even begun. Now, in an ancap society, what prevents people from openly molesting young children like in Muslim countries where children are used as sex slaves all the time? I'm sorry if this is a particularly gruesome topic, but it needs to be addressed. http://thechroniclesofislam.blogspot.com/2009/12/muslim-man-on-muslim-boy-love.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038238 122587718,122606842,2017-04-24 12:51:11,">>122606124 >muh ethics I leled a little.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038271 122587718,122606850,2017-04-24 12:51:15,">>122606611 That would be like arguing we're all NatSocs because 50% of the board are NatSocs. Or we're all statists because we live in a country in which democracy is encouraged. Retarded logic. When you exposed to certain ideas you often reject.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493038275 122587718,122606926,2017-04-24 12:52:06,">>122606772 That's a form of aggression under the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493038326 122587718,122607115,2017-04-24 12:53:43,">>122606842 You shoot them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038423 122587718,122607163,2017-04-24 12:54:09,">>122606926 Who determines the age of consent in an ancap society? And who enforces it? What stops people from openly selling pornographic material that involves underage children? The in real world, the FBI makes sure all that stuff doesn't happen. But there is no FBI in ancapistan.",,Anonymous,FBI.jpg,oB0jFbnl7IeEUhjUaR2Tgg==,US,,1493038449 122587718,122607207,2017-04-24 12:54:41,">>122606735 So then why not just tax citizens at 5% which was what you originally argued against?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493038481 122587718,122607273,2017-04-24 12:55:10,">>122606765 try harder antifa",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493038510 122587718,122607305,2017-04-24 12:55:27,">>122607115 Ment 4 >>122606772",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038527 122587718,122607428,2017-04-24 12:56:41,">>122606850 Social persuasion and compliance brainwashing are undeniable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038601 122587718,122607604,2017-04-24 12:58:05,">>122607163 In short, nobody violated the nap and nobody cares.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493038685 122587718,122607619,2017-04-24 12:58:12,">>122607207 Because if I tax imports at 5%, and you buy something from china that is a dollar, you will pay 5 cents. You don't have to buy foreign goods. If i tax you 5% and you make 100,000 then you lost 5000. And you have no choice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038692 122587718,122607735,2017-04-24 12:59:31,">>122607619 >You don't have to buy foreign goods. >telling an individual what they have or don't have to do",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493038771 122587718,122607829,2017-04-24 13:00:19,">>122587718 Hello small l libertarianbros. /NatSocGen/ here, just saying keep on keeping on. We will crush the commies together.",,Anonymous,pol alternate logo recreated.jpg,2LUaxZKbJ2d0NyXyyGD92Q==,US,,1493038819 122587718,122607906,2017-04-24 13:01:03,"Any pollacks going to the Trump rally in PA? Fairly certain there will be some ANTIFA scum there but I'm willing to bet that they will be pretty subdued since the rally is in ""Pennsyltucky"" and they stand the chance of getting shot by a hillbilly. I hope they do kick shit up though. The collective wafflestomping that is administered will decrease the elevation of Harrisburg by 400 feet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038863 122587718,122607991,2017-04-24 13:01:57,">>122607604 You didn't answer the question. Who determines the age of consent? Is a 16 year old child allowed to sign legally binding contracts? If I get a 16 year old to sign a paper saying that she will work for me for the rest of her life until she dies and I'm allowed to imprison her if she disobeys, is that enforceable?",,Anonymous,man-thinking-small-e1415363287342.jpg,8cPeZIQ+EkxWibTRXbRoIw==,US,,1493038917 122587718,122608034,2017-04-24 13:02:21,">>122607735 I'm not telling them they do or don't have to do anything. I am simply stating a fact. You can be an anarchist all you want but gravity is a law you have to follow.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493038941 122587718,122608174,2017-04-24 13:03:39,all libertarians I've ever encountered are either skinny or obese kissless virgins and edgy faggots to boot,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1493039019 122587718,122608279,2017-04-24 13:04:31,">>122608034 While you have generally good ideas, you *grossly* underestimate the importance of imports.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493039071 122587718,122608344,2017-04-24 13:05:04,">>122607163 No one. Again, this reverts back to the private cities end-scenario. The idea that individuals would be 'okay' that others are having sex (again, probably violates the NAP) is fucked up. Communities would enforce it between themselves. You'd end up with a pedo-Island where no one would take their kids.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493039104 122587718,122608354,2017-04-24 13:05:06,">>122608174 Lolbritarians are good goys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493039106 122587718,122608521,2017-04-24 13:06:33,Paleo-conservatism is the correct ideology.,,Anonymous,c542bf31729bcf91f30d9fad01722233a2346bbe9c5fe8c89c65adfc578e54c9_1.jpg,MjJwwKBZafZRfWBmgdHjSg==,US,,1493039193 122587718,122608541,2017-04-24 13:06:38,">>122607829 Heil victory.",,Anonymous,pol_royal_crest_0.png,8hZ9oyvvSmLAMXfXzC3JXQ==,US,,1493039198 122587718,122608549,2017-04-24 13:06:42,">>122587718 Libertarianism will fail because it has no moral fabric and denies it's members true companionship that is craved by all humans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493039202 122587718,122608599,2017-04-24 13:07:05,">>122607829 >tfw natsocgen is authoritarian >PHYSICALLY REMOVED",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493039225 122587718,122608622,2017-04-24 13:07:15,">>122607619 >you will pay 5 cents. Thats a tax on my standard of living as stated. Or I pay more for (or buy less) for domestic goods. This is a circular argument - it is basic economics.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493039235 122587718,122608704,2017-04-24 13:07:59,">>122608549 That's why paleo-conservatism is better than lolbertarianism",,Anonymous,paleoconservative.jpg,Fc/ABnPbAILYssYLxpmcmg==,US,,1493039279 122587718,122608743,2017-04-24 13:08:19,">>122607991 Parents can influence but yeah that is possible.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493039299 122587718,122608789,2017-04-24 13:08:45,">>122608549 >true companionship So you're saying this can only be achieved through taxation and government spending?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493039325 122587718,122608815,2017-04-24 13:09:03,">>122608549 Thus, anon SvMrFKTI refuted libertarianism and every single libertarian shot theirselves in confusion and anger. >denies it's members true companionship that is craved by all humans. Why is it? It just denies collectivism, it does not deny that humans need to cooperate. Matter of fact the market is all about cooperation.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493039343 122587718,122608816,2017-04-24 13:09:04,">>122608521 >not paleolibertarian",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493039344 122587718,122608926,2017-04-24 13:10:00,">>122608279 No. With only a 5% tariff other countries would be clammering for a place in our free economy. The productiveness of the American entrepreneur would bring big business as small local economies explode.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493039400 122587718,122608964,2017-04-24 13:10:24,">>122608816 Paleo-conservatives understand the following, which lolbertarians do not: 1. National identity 2. Traditional cultural 3. Some economic protections to protect workers fuck cultural libertarianism",,Anonymous,paleo-con flag.png,gmqig82j5kEfYewWHd8Low==,US,,1493039424 122587718,122608969,2017-04-24 13:10:27,">>122608816 Baguette man has is right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493039427 122587718,122608975,2017-04-24 13:10:28,">>122608279 I think you are sorely mistaken if we are discussing America.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493039428 122587718,122609177,2017-04-24 13:12:11,">>122608743 Are verbal contracts considered valid? What about drunken bets? If a drunken man challenges another drunken man to arm wrestling and they both wager their life savings on the result, is that a valid enforceable contract?",,Anonymous,16963548606_1e15095fc7_b.jpg,G4UzXiLoTAorhOTEXCFLpQ==,US,,1493039531 122587718,122609278,2017-04-24 13:13:11,,,Anonymous,wendys.png,N75qGmy3XQykdqvBpTB+Rg==,NZ,,1493039591 122587718,122609399,2017-04-24 13:14:09,">>122608704 >That's why paleo-conservatism is better than lolbertarianism Bingo. We have a winner. If only the world had listened to Pat sooner. The world would be a much better, safer place.",,Anonymous,Pat.png,/fvZH4/aSScLtcsV+rIhWw==,US,,1493039649 122587718,122609414,2017-04-24 13:14:17,">>122608622 Domestic goods would already be cheaper as they were never taxed durring their creation. Nore were the workers taxed who made them. Nore was the entrepreneur who provided the capitol and plan. Foreign goods would likely switch to high quality higher priced goods in an attempt impress the rich, and tasteful, american consumer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493039657 122587718,122609554,2017-04-24 13:15:27,">>122607163 nobody because ancap is an ideology for autistic pedophile manchildren",,Anonymous,A89269262.png,ubEyBhAcj9hmcHRVI/YVTw==,GB,,1493039727 122587718,122609623,2017-04-24 13:16:01,">>122609414 >Domestic goods would already be cheaper as they were never taxed durring their creation. And if I too lived in another country in which this was the case, ceteris parabus? Or I had access to cheaper land, labour, or capital.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493039761 122587718,122609686,2017-04-24 13:16:35,">>122609278 >*vomits* >from a guy who calls himself ""Bukkake""",,Anonymous,Miia doesn't like what she sees.jpg,8zPnxoXK1YSN/BMzVE59KQ==,PT,,1493039795 122587718,122609878,2017-04-24 13:18:11,">>122609623 So Are you offering me a deal on something?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493039891 122587718,122609987,2017-04-24 13:19:09,">>122609878 The point is your domestic goods wouldn't be cheaper so your argument is redundant.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493039949 122587718,122610179,2017-04-24 13:20:46,">>122608964 >national identity available under paleo-libertarianism >Traditional cultural your sentence don't make sense,do you wanted to mean traditional values or local culture promotion ? >Some economic protections to protect workers FUCK YOU,if you wanted to protect X workers because Y workers are out-competing them by embargoes or taxation then you should destroy every public road because a silk industry in alabama can outcompete a silk company in north carolina",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493040046 122587718,122610216,2017-04-24 13:21:10,">>122609987 How do you reckon that you daft ignit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493040070 122587718,122610239,2017-04-24 13:21:24,">>122609177 It would probably be a signed contract as a word is not enough to go on. In the case of the drunken men and the contract if it was signed then it could be enforceable.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493040084 122587718,122610342,2017-04-24 13:22:09,">>122610179 Exactly why lolbertarians are traitors. They will abandon their nation's people for a cheaper laborer.",,Anonymous,xbwlbx7kzr7im6ya.png,nnwO1P4VwNnd7BZZ6gKMIg==,US,,1493040129 122587718,122610597,2017-04-24 13:24:00,">>122610216 Because the cost of production is precisely the same between the foreign and domestic firm. You slapping 5% on a foreign firm will result in them raising their prices by 5%. Either you a) pay 5% b) buy domestic (either buy less, or pay more, both of which reduce your standard of living)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493040240 122587718,122610778,2017-04-24 13:25:17,">>122610342 >goes ad hominem when I reducto ad absurdium his protectionist bullshit gtfo and find yourself a brain",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493040317 122587718,122610790,2017-04-24 13:25:22,">>122591249 Not going black and white with your beliefs and going hard right? Pussy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493040322 122587718,122610798,2017-04-24 13:25:24,">>122610342 then why don't you convince everyone to live in self-sufficient isolation? Surely then no one will lose his or her job :^)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493040324 122587718,122610825,2017-04-24 13:25:35,">>122610239 Assume that a third party is filming the whole thing. It doesn't seem that implausible. You have two drunken guys in a bar and a third person with a camera filming the situation. Who determines if the contract is enforceable or not? In real-life, a judge would likely declare the contract unenforceable on the grounds that both parties involved were intoxicated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493040335 122587718,122610831,2017-04-24 13:25:37,">>122610342 Get into the helicopter you dirty commie",,Anonymous,based hoppe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,GB,,1493040337 122587718,122610912,2017-04-24 13:26:17,">>122610798 >>122610831 >WTF I love open borders now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493040377 122587718,122611094,2017-04-24 13:27:45,">>122610912 Fuck off, private borders ftw.",,Anonymous,1491774328231_0.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1493040465 122587718,122611115,2017-04-24 13:27:54,">>122610912 >being againts protectionism is for open borders retard",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493040474 122587718,122611175,2017-04-24 13:28:18,">>122610597 Domestic products would already be cheaper because theu were NEVER TAXED. So theu would cost what ever they cost - the current tax. This combined with lack of internal regulation or tax burden would allow for companies here to creat more and better products cheaper.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493040498 122587718,122611216,2017-04-24 13:28:35,>>122610912,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1493040515 122587718,122611267,2017-04-24 13:29:03,">>122610912 >he hasn't even read hoppe.jpg",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493040543 122587718,122611520,2017-04-24 13:30:58,">>122611175 >Domestic products would already be cheaper because theu were NEVER TAXED. So theu would cost what ever they cost - the current tax Jesus Christ, as I explained, what if the foreign nation ALSO DID THE SAME? There is no difference in production costs. >here, here, here Okay you are arguing that only America should revert to Libertarianism and no one else. Well if that is your philosophy then okay. But in that case, you're either morally bankrupt to the rest of us or you hope that no other nation becomes Libertarian too or your 5% tax is rendered useless.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493040658 122587718,122611536,2017-04-24 13:31:08,">>122611094 >>122611115 If another country is heavily subsidizing a certain industry to such an extent that your own local industry can't compete, then having some protectionist policies in place to even the playing field a bit is quite justifiable. Otherwise, I do agree that import/export taxes are bad, generally speaking. But they shouldn't be completely off the table either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493040668 122587718,122611552,2017-04-24 13:31:18,">>122597551 No fucking way",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493040678 122587718,122611770,2017-04-24 13:32:59,">>122611552 Macron is a libertarian, he is /ourguy/. Le Pen is a trade unionist (commie) obsessed with collectivist ideas like nationalism, workers """"""rights"""""" etc",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493040779 122587718,122611898,2017-04-24 13:33:55,">>122611770 macron is a EU slave he is not /ourguy/ at all nigger",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493040835 122587718,122611922,2017-04-24 13:34:07,">>122611770 >Macron is a libertarian",,Anonymous,1475511608743.jpg,QCrFO0hApbekzrMivrH6GQ==,GB,,1493040847 122587718,122611960,2017-04-24 13:34:24,">>122597214 libertarianism is an umbrella term that covers ancaps, minarchists, classical liberals, and so forth",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493040864 122587718,122611975,2017-04-24 13:34:32,">>122611770 Macron is a Jewish puppet and he's pro-EU. He's not /ourguy/ at all. /ourguy/ was Henry de Lesquen.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493040872 122587718,122612106,2017-04-24 13:35:34,">>122610825 This will probably be the declaration of a private court.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493040934 122587718,122612122,2017-04-24 13:35:42,">>122598166 nicely done, anon. Perhaps I should do the same",,Anonymous,1492782848357.jpg,JLZ4Iy+GvDkzS4FDa0NqPg==,CA,,1493040942 122587718,122612401,2017-04-24 13:37:50,">>122611520 No I am not a fucking lolbritarian. Ew gross. I am trying to combine an external nationalist socialist government, with an international anarcho capitalist territory. My goal is a state whos government only interacts with foreign entities while securing unabashed freedom for it's internal residents. The 5% tariff can be used to fund eugenics and local projection of private military firms.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493041070 122587718,122612480,2017-04-24 13:38:29,">>122612401 Internal not international my bad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493041109 122587718,122612639,2017-04-24 13:39:48,">>122611898 >>122611922 >>122611975 not an argument commies",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493041188 122587718,122612655,2017-04-24 13:39:56,">>122612106 >Private court Not this bullshit again. Nobody would ever listen to a court that doesn't have legal backing. >But muh arbitration Arbitration only works if both parties agree to honor the results, and in most court cases, one party has a very strong incentive to disregard the results. Like Gorsuch said during his hearing, every trial has a winner and a loser, there isn't any middle ground. The difference is that Gorsuch is an actual judge with legal authority so he can compel the loser to abide by the results even if they don't like it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493041196 122587718,122612829,2017-04-24 13:41:33,">>122612655 What if the private court hires private security to kick your ass?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493041293 122587718,122612841,2017-04-24 13:41:39,">>122612639 he is against religious discrimination in private entreprizes ergo he is against private property except for cronies and being pro-lobby in politics is against the free market now get out",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493041299 122587718,122612924,2017-04-24 13:42:15,">>122612401 Your politics is irrelevant, as stated, your economics is totally flawed. A 5% tariff or a 5% tax is THE SAME. If that's what you want then okay, but you're argument was that ""5% import tax doesn't really effect your standard of living"".",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493041335 122587718,122612976,2017-04-24 13:42:43,">>122612924 >you're",,Anonymous,17496309_10206806375198264_1083764755_n.gif,hx0O1DL1VLnOh7y9+idMpg==,GB,,1493041363 122587718,122613200,2017-04-24 13:44:27,">>122611975 But from a purely libertarian view, isn't the EU a good thing? The only reason that I dislike the EU is because I see it as a threat to national sovereignty. But it still is primarily a trade agreement that enables unrestricted trade and unimpeded movement throughout Europe. From a purely free market stand-point, that's a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493041467 122587718,122613353,2017-04-24 13:45:41,">>122612655 that's why I did not say something like a private court would enforce it They just give insight. Also, nice job on the campaign trail to trip some faggot up made a load of progress I see.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493041541 122587718,122613359,2017-04-24 13:45:44,">>122613200 >But it still is primarily a trade agreement that enables unrestricted trade and unimpeded movement throughout Europe. That is the common market not the EU. The EU is a legislative body which taxes and makes laws.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493041544 122587718,122613509,2017-04-24 13:46:48,">>122612829 What if the ""loser"" of a trial hires private security to kick ass in retaliation? Or what if an obviously guilty person simply refuses to stand trial in the first place because they know they'll lose? Or better yet, what if a completely innocent person refuses to stand trial simply because they don't trust the private court in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493041608 122587718,122613675,2017-04-24 13:48:05,">>122613509 The vigilantism argument has been refuted many times.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493041685 122587718,122613676,2017-04-24 13:48:06,">>122613200 his parliament give complete power to any kind of lobbying in his political decision making it gives large amounts of subsidization of the weak economic country on behalf of the strongest one also their currency is just a technocratic inflating shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493041686 122587718,122613737,2017-04-24 13:48:33,">>122612924 No it really isn't. You are assuming that other nations would choose to match, or even be able to match an american economy with no restraints. The world you are playing your argument from doesn't even exist. You also are assuming the market would not be able to provide a high enough standard of living. One of the reasons cheap Chinese shit is doing so well is because of our failing economic policies. If some country did however have the same product at the same price, there is no reason to assume we would need or want it. Imports would likely shift so that foreign companies would want to sell high end products instead of competing with american small buisness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493041713 122587718,122613805,2017-04-24 13:48:59,"My college has an anti-capitalist society. Should I set up an anti-communist society? Or will (((they))) fuck my shit up for it?",,Anonymous,anti_communist_action__anti_antifa.jpg,r1YGryBRSZjVpjfkRYlW3Q==,DE,,1493041739 122587718,122613988,2017-04-24 13:50:26,">>122613509 Then that happens. Obviously. It would also effect the mood of tue people who are directly effected. I do believe in killing people who are a direct threat to people amd property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493041826 122587718,122614052,2017-04-24 13:50:52,">>122613737 >No it really isn't. You are assuming that other nations would choose to match, or even be able to match an american economy with no restraints. Again, goes back to the earlier point on morality and systems in other nations. Do you only want this for America? What about Britain? Either everyone lives under the same system, or everyone moves to your country. In the first instance, there is no difference in production costs, and in the second, no imports to tax.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493041852 122587718,122614315,2017-04-24 13:52:53,">>122613805 Capitalism is proto-fascism. Check your privilege.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493041973 122587718,122614665,2017-04-24 13:55:30,">>122613675 If a private citizen takes the law into their own hands, that is, by definition vigilantism. Now, you can agree or disagree with vigilantism, but you can't change the definition. To be clear, a person who is directly acting in self-defense is not a vigilante. A person who shoots an intruder trying to break into his home is not engaging in vigilantism. But if I hear a rumor that Fred might have done something bad and I drag him into my own private court then that is definitely vigilantism. >Vigilantism >law enforcement undertaken without legal authority by a self-appointed group of people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493042130 122587718,122614931,2017-04-24 13:57:41,">>122614052 Nigger what are you talking about? Are you trying to ask me to annex you? Why should your affaires be my concern? And who the fuck do you think is moving here boi? This shit ain't no hand out. Only the top 1% genetically are allowed to come here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493042261 122587718,122615025,2017-04-24 13:58:29,">>122613805 Don't worry anon, they have us to deal with if they fuck shit up. You tell us if anything goes wrong. >PHYSICAL REMOVAL",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493042309 122587718,122615047,2017-04-24 13:58:38,">>122613200 >Walks down the street >Sees a piece of shit on the sidewalk >Notices gold flakes are ingrained into the turd Is it still shit?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493042318 122587718,122615082,2017-04-24 13:58:55,">>122614931 If your system is so successful then everyone will copy you. Again, your system of 5% import tax is redundant.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493042335 122587718,122615160,2017-04-24 13:59:36,">>122587718 >Libertarian >Right Pick one Libertarianism is by definition Liberal and thus Leftist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493042376 122587718,122615259,2017-04-24 14:00:22,">>122587768 >Economics in One Lesson – Henry Hazlitt This book completely changed my political thinking, bravo Hazlitt",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493042422 122587718,122615288,2017-04-24 14:00:35,">>122614665 >If a private citizen takes the law into their own hands Which is what they would be doing in your first case of them breaking the agreed contract.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493042435 122587718,122615453,2017-04-24 14:01:50,">>122614665 Well if you are working within a system that has no law then this would be ""legal"" vigilantism, as it is not expressly illegal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493042510 122587718,122615847,2017-04-24 14:04:59,">>122615082 They can copy all they want, and they can sell us beautifully crafted luxury items, that are taxed at 5%.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493042699 122587718,122616004,2017-04-24 14:06:12,">>122601942 >The NAP is worthless. It can't be defended philosophically. Atheism is morally bankrupt.",,Anonymous,1355309766724.jpg,1vDPoMN5OsqrpKEKuJYdfw==,GB,,1493042772 122587718,122616097,2017-04-24 14:06:53,">>122615160 >Implying that ""liberal"" has only one meaning >>122615453 >>122615288 What contract? This is what I don't get. What if Fred NEVER signed any contract that enables you to bring him into your privatized court system?",,Anonymous,Neo-Liberal.png,a7SY3n9bWp+phutnKSKFPQ==,US,,1493042813 122587718,122616185,2017-04-24 14:07:37,">>122616004 The nap is gay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493042857 122587718,122616364,2017-04-24 14:09:05,">>122616097 Who cares.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493042945 122587718,122616413,2017-04-24 14:09:26,">>122613805 No, make an actual libertarian or right wing organization and use anti communism when you need to defend yourselves. Otherwise, it will look like it's just a right wing goon squad and you won't last long.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493042966 122587718,122616531,2017-04-24 14:10:19,">>122616364 I'm sure Fred and his associates cares quite a bit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493043019 122587718,122616644,2017-04-24 14:11:10,">>122587718 Can someone tell what rightists and leftists stand for? Some of the most important points. And what's the different between left libs and right libs.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1493043070 122587718,122616919,2017-04-24 14:13:15,">>122616531 Well i guess they will have a bone to pick then. Idk what fred did so I don't have an opinion on this specific happening.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493043195 122587718,122617286,2017-04-24 14:16:00,">>122616644 Left libertarianism is about everyone being able to do what they want and everyone having to tolerate it, and also about free shit and open borders. Right libertarianism is about the right to do what you want but also to protect your own property and/or community from people who would rather do things that you don't want. At least, that's what the anarcho capitalist part of the movement is about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493043360 122587718,122617678,2017-04-24 14:18:59,">>122616097 >>Implying that ""liberal"" has only one meaning 'Liberal = the political or cultural ideology that believes that the primary (or even only) duty of government/culture is to maximize individual liberty and equality. Liberalism is roughly divided into two broad groups: Classical Liberals (who are focused on liberty); and Progressive Liberals (who are focused on equality)."" ""With a few notable exceptions all contemporary politics is well within the Liberal sphere: Socialists, Communists, Libertarians, Objectivists, Feminists, Republicans [in the broader sense], National Socialists, and even Fascists are all Liberal movements."" ""Even the supposed axis of economics, Communist/Socialist (equality) vs. laissez-faire Capitalist (liberty), is nothing but a fight within Liberal concepts."" ""The last arguably Right Wing political group to hold true power and broad influence in the 20th Century was the Distributist, pro-Catholic, Monarchist Falange Party of Francoist Spain."" >Take PoliSci 205 before you humiliate yourself any further",,Anonymous,retard.gif,Gb/3FyV9eW0LV9LKtt9dtw==,US,,1493043539 122587718,122617688,2017-04-24 14:19:04,">>122615847 They have the same production costs in that case so it's still a tad on your standard of living. Christ.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493043544 122587718,122617928,2017-04-24 14:21:01,">>122604519 You should probably research how much money it costs to not be a US citizen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493043661 122587718,122617993,2017-04-24 14:21:29,">>122616644 The left-right scale stands for communism-capitalism. Both left and right can either be libertarian or authoritarian. Note that liberal and libertarian are two different things.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493043689 122587718,122618377,2017-04-24 14:24:21,">>122617678 so liberalism both right-wing and left-wing you just contradicted yourself",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493043861 122587718,122618493,2017-04-24 14:25:11,">>122617688 Who cares? You are such a fag. Haha You are the kid who gets a 100 dollar toy for Christmas and cries when it is not the color you wanted. LoL",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493043911 122587718,122618718,2017-04-24 14:26:59,">>122618493 >ad-hom There it is",,Anonymous,download.png,dr8uMKUNyNj9di3AkGinGw==,GB,,1493044019 122587718,122618820,2017-04-24 14:27:55,">>122617678 Feminists are people who push for things like gender quotas and ""equal pay"" laws. Libertarians are against quotas and such. Therefore trying to force them under the same umbrella is stupid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493044075 122587718,122618828,2017-04-24 14:27:58,>>122615160,,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1493044078 122587718,122619101,2017-04-24 14:30:11,">>122616097 Then I wouldn't be doing business with him in the first place. What a ridiculous scenario. Fred deserves to get away with it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493044211 122587718,122619176,2017-04-24 14:30:52,">>122618828 I can never figure out what the ""physical removal"" thing is supposed to mean. Does it just mean that you're allowed to kick people off land that you own if they're trespassing? Okay. You can do that now. Doesn't really change anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493044252 122587718,122619306,2017-04-24 14:31:51,">>122606772 whats to stop me from killing the pedophile once they violate the bodies of under developed brains?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493044311 122587718,122619474,2017-04-24 14:33:05,">>122619176 you can't remove him from your business and for his gender/race",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493044385 122587718,122619559,2017-04-24 14:33:40,">>122619474 *today",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493044420 122587718,122619686,2017-04-24 14:34:37,">>122618718 >muh name calling You literally used correctly said that my economic system is so great that the entire world would copy it, causeing the 5% tariff to baclfire, making the system now no longer great, because of a potential 5% extra costs on luxury items. YOUR RETARDED is definitely an argument in this case.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493044477 122587718,122619709,2017-04-24 14:34:49,">>122598680 Can you distinguish between voluntary and coercive interactions nigger?",,Anonymous,don't bait me.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1493044489 122587718,122619755,2017-04-24 14:35:20,">>122619176 Try physically removing the police when they come for your taxes then.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1493044520 122587718,122619935,2017-04-24 14:37:01,">>122619474 So all it really means is that workplace discrimination laws have been repealed? Okay. That's how it was in the US up until 1964.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493044621 122587718,122620064,2017-04-24 14:38:02,">>122618377 >both left wing and right wing No, the point is all of these >""With a few notable exceptions all contemporary politics is well within the Liberal sphere: Socialists, Communists, Libertarians, Objectivists, Feminists, Republicans [in the broader sense], National Socialists, and even Fascists are all Liberal movements."" ""Even the supposed axis of economics, Communist/Socialist (equality) vs. laissez-faire Capitalist (liberty), is nothing but a fight within Liberal concepts."" are ALL Left Wing >and you French, tsk tsk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493044682 122587718,122620121,2017-04-24 14:38:36,">>122618820 Your lack of comprehension reflects only on yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493044716 122587718,122620194,2017-04-24 14:39:09,">>122619686 >causeing the 5% tariff to baclfire, making the system now no longer great, because of a potential 5% extra costs on luxury items. That's the whole point. Your system doesn't stand the test of time, so it is fundamentally flawed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493044749 122587718,122620509,2017-04-24 14:41:48,">>122620194 >a 5% mark up on Chinese furniture will cripple an economy adopted by the entire world. L O L",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493044908 122587718,122620773,2017-04-24 14:44:00,">>122619935 now include that everything is privatized and that you want to maintain order in your community (ie deportation of undesirables) >>122620064 >are ALL Left Wing nope,you have a cognitive bias implying that liberalism in all senses is left-wing also if being for laissez-faire or redistribution is left-wing than what kind of economics is right wing ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493045040 122587718,122621019,2017-04-24 14:46:04,">>122620509 Not what I'm saying, I'm arguing that it is taxation on my standard of living, which was the original point. Unfortunately as you can't grasp basic economics we had to extrapolate it to a long-term meta aggregate state for you to understand.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493045164 122587718,122621089,2017-04-24 14:46:32,">>122620773 I agree with the basic concept that privately-owned businesses should be able to hire/fire whoever they choose with minimal regulation. But the idea of privatizing EVERYTHING is downright silly. How would an economy even function without public roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493045192 122587718,122621205,2017-04-24 14:47:38,">>122621089 my country have already private highways",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493045258 122587718,122621447,2017-04-24 14:49:27,">>122621205 >There are a few private highways >This means that it is practical for every single road to be a toll road",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493045367 122587718,122621635,2017-04-24 14:50:56,">>122621447 why not ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493045456 122587718,122621714,2017-04-24 14:51:45,">>122621019 If we are already competing at equal measure with the world then how would it effect you standard of living retard? Most basics would be 100% american because you would not be able to out compet local buisness. So unless you need a shitload of luxurt goods from china then your life will be 0% effected at all you epic fucking moron. The principle you are trying to apply doesn't function here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493045505 122587718,122621770,2017-04-24 14:52:09,">>122621019 Not him, but accusing somebody of not understand economics while at the same time suggesting that a 5% import tax would lead to economic ruin is really hypocritical.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493045529 122587718,122621926,2017-04-24 14:53:37,">>122621714 >If we are already competing at equal measure with the world then how would it effect you standard of living retard? Because it is an import tax. >Most basics would be 100% american because you would not be able to out compet local buisness [citation needed] >>122621770 Please show me where I said that. All I have done is try to explain that a 5% tariff is the same as a 5% income tax.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493045617 122587718,122622341,2017-04-24 14:56:50,">>122621635 >you literally have to stop at a toll gate on every single road you drive on >Somehow this is a practical system",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493045810 122587718,122622370,2017-04-24 14:57:02,">>122621714 >So unless you need to improve your living standards with imported goods from china then your life will be 0% affected If those goods aren't improving your living standards why do people buy them?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1493045822 122587718,122622431,2017-04-24 14:57:37,">>122621926 So an import tax on LUXURY goods will just destroy everything. You're a fucking idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493045857 122587718,122622666,2017-04-24 14:59:37,">>122622370 For shits and giggles. We are talking about future, designer clothing, high end automobiles. You buy them because you can faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493045977 122587718,122622689,2017-04-24 14:59:48,">>122622341 >What is easypass/fast pass",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493045988 122587718,122622773,2017-04-24 15:00:30,">>122622431 Not at 5%. I just buy less, or sacrifice other income to pay for the extra 5%.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493046030 122587718,122622966,2017-04-24 15:02:09,">>122622666 Well good thing I have Satan to tell me what I can spend my money on.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1493046129 122587718,122623044,2017-04-24 15:02:46,">>122622773 Yup. And you probably live threw all of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493046166 122587718,122623160,2017-04-24 15:03:45,,,Anonymous,02cea3462f6577ef2c0c47d93ccce7a21b097746375e1140632b71b10096b22d_1.jpg,LgkC/VOTKrskCINVf2Zrgw==,US,,1493046225 122587718,122623164,2017-04-24 15:03:46,">>122622966 Checked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493046226 122587718,122623346,2017-04-24 15:05:25,">>122623044 So you can now finally agree its a tax on my standard of living.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493046325 122587718,122623499,2017-04-24 15:06:33,>>122623160,,Anonymous,ifunny watermark.png,Pkawv+VF0pfrx6/3tFvMiA==,PT,,1493046393 122587718,122623577,2017-04-24 15:07:18,">>122622689 That still relies on stopping at a toll gate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493046438 122587718,122624547,2017-04-24 15:15:46,">>122623577 Actually no you stinking nigger, these days you drive right through. In fact some freeways in CA just detect if you're in a certain lane and you don't really go ""through"" anything to pay the toll.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493046946 122587718,122624601,2017-04-24 15:16:10,Someone make a new bread pls,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493046970 122587718,122624865,2017-04-24 15:18:35,">>122620773 >you have a cognitive bias implying that liberalism in all senses is left-wing No. I have read books and understand the actual definitions of 'left wing' and 'right wing'. 'Right Wing politics - those political stances that are based upon natural law, hierarchies, tradition, and official religion. Right Wing groups typically reject Democracy, accept inequalities as 'natural', and promote Monarchy, especially divine right of kings' >You could read a book for yourself >what kind of economics is right wing ? Manorialism, Mercantilism, Distributism, mainly. AGAIN, this is second year PoliSci stuff!",,Anonymous,retarded.jpg,rPgLiSRyWSRi7OAKvRIYyw==,US,,1493047115 122758568,122758568,2017-04-25 13:24:11,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Le Pen vs Macron is why democracy should be removed edition,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,GB,,1493126651 122758568,122758689,2017-04-25 13:25:13,,,Anonymous,1488455466717.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,GB,,1493126713 122758568,122758898,2017-04-25 13:26:57,">""Liberalism did not emerge full blown nor did it undergo a metamorphosis into a caricature of itself. But it did evolve. I'm not offering any argument that liberalism sprang up at a certain point complete, fully matured. Neither can liberalism can be approached -- as some people do -- as a conversation conducted among philosophers over the centuries. Instead, liberalism must be understood, I think, as a political and social doctrine and a movement grounded in the distinctive culture and traceable to specific historical condition. That culture is the west. A Europe that rose in communion with the bishop of Rome. The historical conditions were those of the middle ages. The history of liberalism is rooted in what economic historians call the European miracle.""",,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,GB,,1493126817 122758568,122759260,2017-04-25 13:30:01,"V i d e o s http://www.libertarianright.org/videos/",,Anonymous,1486164847456.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,GB,,1493127001 122758568,122759264,2017-04-25 13:30:02,"sneks are the ultimate waifus no step on snek",,Anonymous,Don't tread on Miia.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,PT,,1493127002 122758568,122759351,2017-04-25 13:30:43,,,Anonymous,Hoppe on EU.jpg,Lu6rKs9wBA9Xl5/nIE7ZFw==,IT,,1493127043 122758568,122759356,2017-04-25 13:30:45,">>122758568 >implying Macron isn't /ourguy/",,Anonymous,get.png,juMojqHniP0b3LVzP1UGQA==,IT,,1493127045 122758568,122759487,2017-04-25 13:31:42,">>122759356 Where does this meme come from out of interest? Are you an agent of the MIDF?",,Anonymous,1493055836417.png,1TD1DgvWPPuSutPoGj3jqg==,GB,,1493127102 122758568,122759586,2017-04-25 13:32:27,">>122759356 >supporting mass immigration while supporting welfare state >libertarian",,Anonymous,1465261703482.gif,0yLhMILzJ13XvWvCWd75mQ==,US,,1493127147 122758568,122759694,2017-04-25 13:33:18,">>122759356 >EU cuck hop aboard",,Anonymous,helicoptero no ultramar.jpg,HoiJ8YvuO6D7RiCSff4MhQ==,PT,,1493127198 122758568,122759716,2017-04-25 13:33:26,">>122759487 >Where does this meme come from out of interest? Sauce https://www.politicalcompass.org/france2017 >Are you an agent of the MIDF? nope, just an average Italfag lurking over French elections desu",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1493127206 122758568,122759899,2017-04-25 13:34:45,">>122759351 Great quote.",,Anonymous,1491522158842.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,GB,,1493127285 122758568,122760132,2017-04-25 13:36:45,">one of the Freest economies in the world >direct democracy >guns for everyone >banning minarets >guarding the pope are the Swiss /our guys/?",,Anonymous,swiss poker face.png,PSvAnatpRz7dEeObIVRWtg==,PT,,1493127405 122758568,122760777,2017-04-25 13:42:01,">>122759716 Hmmm, he's essentially a radical centrist. Some policies are left, others right, others libertarian, others authoritarian.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493127721 122758568,122761947,2017-04-25 13:51:36,"Based >>122748528",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493128296 122758568,122761960,2017-04-25 13:51:44,">>122760777 yup, a good ol mixup of everything, to get more votes I suppose",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1493128304 122758568,122762396,2017-04-25 13:55:33,>>122759899,,Anonymous,dubsget.jpg,2JidmF/9azjdUPID5WqKHA==,IT,,1493128533 122758568,122762891,2017-04-25 14:00:01,">>122760132 Mostly. They still need to sort out degeneracy, but politically they're ourgoys.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493128801 122758568,122762971,2017-04-25 14:00:45,Quick question:is piracy a violation of the nap?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493128845 122758568,122764252,2017-04-25 14:11:09,"Interesting blog on NAP https://www.libertarianism.org/blog/six-reasons-libertarians-should-reject-non-aggression-principle",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493129469 122758568,122764643,2017-04-25 14:13:57,">>122762971 Internet piracy? I don't think copying of information outside of a contract is a breach...but I could be wrong.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493129637 122777389,122777389,2017-04-25 15:53:55,This thread is for the discussion of libertarian,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based hoppe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,GB,,1493135635 122777389,122777532,2017-04-25 15:54:54,"FUCK can an admin delete this please, managed to post halfway though writing the thread",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493135694 122777389,122777849,2017-04-25 15:56:53,"let it sink m8 or wait a few minutes, tick the box to the left of the thread title, scroll to the bottom and press delete",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1493135813 122803848,122803848,2017-04-25 19:09:32,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - HELICOPTER DEATH SQUADS EDITION,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,SK,,1493147372 122803848,122804502,2017-04-25 19:14:28,jesus all yall niggas sleep,,Anonymous,me when i sleep.jpg,Fa/BK93ej7+QP8Wt0y595g==,SK,,1493147668 122868009,122868009,2017-04-26 06:11:40,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Natural Law? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - NATURAL LAW EDITION,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1493187100 122868009,122868199,2017-04-26 06:14:33,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493187273 122868009,122868223,2017-04-26 06:14:58,,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1493187298 122868009,122868266,2017-04-26 06:15:30,,,Anonymous,Gg6Jn_kEfmCWpIkWw307xX3Tr8QMjJy21IKI7FRMyX0.jpg,hiRP4lPTTkAf2UvjY0VF9Q==,US,,1493187330 122868009,122868290,2017-04-26 06:15:53,,,Anonymous,Mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,US,,1493187353 122868009,122868326,2017-04-26 06:16:36,,,Anonymous,Hoppe on dem welfare.jpg,n144P/e7+z1LgnJdc79MXA==,IT,,1493187396 122868009,122868449,2017-04-26 06:18:16,,,Anonymous,quote-freedom-can-exist-only-in-the-society-of-knowledge-without-learning-men-are-incapable-of-knowing-benjamin-rush-263454.jpg,dZovKJiXta37CLgg0IvfqQ==,US,,1493187496 122868009,122869130,2017-04-26 06:27:12,,,Anonymous,blue (3).jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,US,,1493188032 122868009,122869613,2017-04-26 06:33:13,"How is right-libertarian thought superior to post-Keynesian economics? It seems to me the argument for a ""free-market"" is actually an argument of morality to answer all or most economic issues and questions. Which is ridiculous to me. If I wanted to hear about those kinds of arguments I could ask marxists or American liberals. Free enterprise is about more than muh freedoms. I don't like welfare really, at least not to the extent of the robust and bloated American system. But the neo-liberal and Chicago schools seem so lazy in their observations and theory. I never see any plainly stated solutions outside of ""end the fed,"" which I can get behind. Or at least I would be if a better alternative would be presented. I think on some social issues we agree, but I disagree with you guys on economic issues. I mean the state is fundamental to keep capitalism stable, maintain private property, help small business and keep some monopolies from forming. We have to maintain a consumer and worker base to keep capital and commodities moving no matter how you feel about it. So /lrg/, what am I missing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493188393 122868009,122870460,2017-04-26 06:44:53,">>122869613 Look at the Sonnenschein–Mantel–Debreu theorem or even Fischer back in 1933. The post-Keynesian world of tinkering through DSGE models is total cloud c-koo land, not least because of the rise of financial globalistion, but because theoretically it is spectacularly retarded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493189093 122868009,122870513,2017-04-26 06:45:33,">freest economy in Europe >BTFOs EU >direct democracy >guarding the pope >rifles for everyone >rich as fuck and everybody wants to move there Friendly reminder that the Swiss are /our guys/",,Anonymous,swiss girl.jpg,5KOFRnuEwX1BfrI5/xLoQg==,PT,,1493189133 122868009,122870630,2017-04-26 06:47:20,">>122869613 The ""free market"" is a mystification of FREE WILL. There are pragmatic reasons to support free market, but the most compelling reasons are ethical. Note that one can not fully utilize free will without knowledge of the universe. To suppress free will is to enslave another, using your free will to harm another is immoral. Those who seek to control the economy seek to enslave, and suppress the knowledge of natural law. If you are a moral relativists, or authoritarian, none of this is an issue to you because you are detached from truth, and therefore morality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493189240 122868009,122871300,2017-04-26 06:55:47,">tfw political economy exam coming up and all my arguments are pro-classic liberal a-anyone got any good rebuttals",,Anonymous,1491859248745.jpg,C3yffL6nH+UJSX8Ly9JZzw==,GB,,1493189747 122868009,122871791,2017-04-26 07:02:29,">>122871300 You could check out hoppe's Errors of classical liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493190149 122868009,122872060,2017-04-26 07:06:25,">>122871791 That's a good idea. Unfortunately I imagine they are all to anti-state, pro private society viewpoint, which isn't what my (((examiners))) want. Gonna give it a view, then read, anyway.",,Anonymous,1491683273326.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,GB,,1493190385 122868009,122872342,2017-04-26 07:10:23,,,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1493190623 122868009,122872451,2017-04-26 07:11:58,">>122870460 Thanks. I didn't realize Fischer was a libertarian, but I suppose I'll have to revisit him. I'm sorry to say I'm not familiar with that theorem though. How are DSGE models retarded? >>122870630 I have morals, but I don't use feelings to dictate my opinions on everything. This is an emotional argument used to answer an economic question, your reasoning is no better than what socdems present. You want a satisfactory market? Focus on competition and choices not your silly idea of freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493190718 122868009,122872690,2017-04-26 07:15:10,">>122869613 Free market is not believing in magic or moral superiority, is the understanding that value is subjective, therefore economies are better off when millions of agents try to find their place in the market instead of a central unit dictating what people should make and what people should value. Any other system will introduce market distortions and incentives towards corruption and hot-potato economy focused on short-term profits. Anyway, keynesian and other economic policies could be applied in a private property society, it's just a matter of whether people would like to subject themselves to those policies or not via economic migration between different communities.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493190910 122868009,122873100,2017-04-26 07:20:16,">>122872451 Free will is far from simple emotion. Free will is your wisdom and actions based in knowledge of reality. You can be suppressed by your own ignorance of reality and rob yourself of free will.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493191216 122868009,122873671,2017-04-26 07:27:48,">>122872451 >Thanks. I didn't realize Fischer was a libertarian He wasn't, he was a neoclassical but he wrote a great critique of statisticians on why the economy should be analysed from a state of disequilibrium, rather than fairly-land equilibrium which the Woodford (2007+) generation like to imagine. Sonnenschein–Mantel–Debreu theorem shows the law of demand may apply to a single rational individual yet there is no macroeconomic equivalence. Ergo, macro-models based on rationality and closed systems are again, fairy-land. >How are they retarded Theoretically (as above), empirically the transmission mechanism doesn't hold (Rupert and Sustek (2016), the rise of financial globalisation means CBs can't control their own country (endless citations for this, again start with Woodford, then a critique is Kamin (2010), Obstfeld (2015), Rey (2013)), and firms would pursue carry trades if there was an interest rate differential (Evans and Rime (2014), Allen et al. (2011). Look at Greenspans conundrum back in 2005 - despite a 150 basis point increase in the federal funds rate, the 10-year Treasury yields remained unchanged. Several members in the Fed can't control the entire financial system, shock. There's a reason no private banks or firms have their own equivalent.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493191668 122868009,122873823,2017-04-26 07:29:36,">>122872690 I don't think you quite understand markets. America has never had a truly free market in the right-libertarian sense. You could argue that the west did, but let's be honest the government has had a role sense day one. Frankly, I feel like that offers a more healthy market with more choices for me. >>122873100 I wouldn't have the ability to exercise free will without myself, my society and my government to build a system based on rights and freedoms.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493191776 122868009,122873942,2017-04-26 07:31:06,">>122873671 That's pretty much only looking at the first mechanism (short-term rates to long-term rates). Now imagine the second and third mechanisms as these long-term rates supposedly filter through to the wider economy, affecting exchange rate, output, and inflation, etc.",,Anonymous,check em.png,a0MepQNWpK+ksQ9fSimWYg==,GB,,1493191866 122868009,122874335,2017-04-26 07:35:56,">>122873671 Interesting, again I appreciate this information. If I may ask another dumb question, what set you down this road?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493192156 122868009,122874798,2017-04-26 07:41:43,">>122874335 I study Economics and we had an essay exactly on this topic. It's very niche in terms of the literature but pretty fascinating nonetheless. I frankly think most central banks don't have a clue what they are doing, they're just relying on expansionary monetary and fiscal policy (mainly aimed at keep stocks afloat) in some vague hope that real and sustainable growth will return and the debt will somehow disappear. They sit their with their models and tinker away but at some point it'll be rendered totally ineffective and they'll have to start all over again. Hopefully that event doesn't come in the form of a sudden meltdown but I fear it will.",,Anonymous,1491846253583.jpg,mBuZkeoQ96g8mFy82Nc4jw==,GB,,1493192503 122868009,122875029,2017-04-26 07:44:42,">>122869613 If you want to voluntary participate in an economic system or community that matches your values you are free to travel and contract yourself so. That's the beautiful thing putting freedom above ""muh security"", because people can become creative.",,Anonymous,socialism.png,04c0eFGtWTCmmysQO8K63w==,US,,1493192682 122868009,122875213,2017-04-26 07:47:03,">>122873823 Seems like you're changing the goalpost here, I'm not going to debate you on whether the US was a free market or not, because that wasn't the original topic I was answering to. You asked if we had more arguments towards free market than just muh freedoms, and that's what I answered.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493192823 122868009,122875417,2017-04-26 07:49:26,Worst IPO ever.,,Anonymous,inflation5.png,V+ufTHhywTA13wbHSVY4Yw==,GB,,1493192966 122868009,122876295,2017-04-26 07:59:57,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493193597 122868009,122876408,2017-04-26 08:01:40,">>122875213 I wasn't arguing that. I meant that an unregulated market isn't inherently healthier. My source is that I live in the greatest country ever and I appreciate the opportunities it gives me. Even if I wish certain things would change.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493193700 122868009,122876793,2017-04-26 08:06:44,">>122876408 Acceptance? Is that your solution? Complacency? You have chosen submissiveness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493194004 122868009,122877182,2017-04-26 08:11:00,">>122876793 Well I'll be honest I'm not happy with either of the current major political parties or our current president. However, you're using an emotional argument again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493194260 122868009,122877239,2017-04-26 08:11:40,">>122876408 >My source is that I live in the greatest country ever As long as you don't earn your wage in dollars.",,Anonymous,inflation4.png,/P4PfwWgAcIjMzXJjX3MmQ==,GB,,1493194300 122868009,122877481,2017-04-26 08:14:30,">>122877182 You choose to accept the will bring pushed on you, instead of affecting change in your own life. This is not an appeal to emotion, but a truth you admitted to choosing to ignore. You ignore this because of YOUR fear, your emotions. Accept that you have free will and use it for your own interest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493194470 122868009,122877669,2017-04-26 08:16:48,">>122868009 If the state is evil, then that does mean it is okay and morally correct to murder police, firefighters, and other government workers who work for the state?",,Anonymous,636036200400597761-812880227_4000.jpg,sZbO888q2tk68hCOJw0n7Q==,US,,1493194608 122868009,122877694,2017-04-26 08:17:05,">>122877239 I manage >>122877481 >You ignore this because of YOUR fear, your emotions prove it >Accept that you have free will and use it for your own interest I do. America makes it easy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493194625 122868009,122877874,2017-04-26 08:19:15,">>122877694 Good man. Inflation is our greatest enemy!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493194755 122868009,122878092,2017-04-26 08:22:08,">>122877694 You contradict yourself, on one hand you accept the way things are in praise, on the other, you say you are unhappy with the way things are. You must confront this contradiction, this is your fear. Only then can you realize free will and make the change you say you want.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493194928 122868009,122878095,2017-04-26 08:22:11,">>122877669 No. Firstly, not all that is evil ought to be murdered. Secondly, we would be in a far worse position if the state created a monopoly of security (police) and then didn't give it any funding. State police is at least better than no police.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493194931 122868009,122878142,2017-04-26 08:22:49,">>122877874 I say this with all sincerity. There isn't a lot I agree with you guys on, but on this I agree. America needs to stop printing money at the rate we do. If that means abolishing the federal reserve America should do it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493194969 122868009,122878213,2017-04-26 08:23:36,">>122876408 >I meant that an unregulated market isn't inherently healthier Why? >My source is that I live in the greatest country ever and I appreciate the opportunities it gives me In order to demonstrate regulated markets superiority, you would need to argue how it being regulated is better than what it would have been if it wasn't. You can't just say ""look at the result"", when only one formula was applied. You would need to demonstrate how addition of regulations improved the market above what previously existed, or above what other alternatives could have created, I mean, at least if you want to have a scientific approach to it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493195016 122868009,122878292,2017-04-26 08:24:43,">>122878095 Why not? They're oppressing you, aren't they? They're taking your money and using it to stuff their own pockets while at the same time forcing you to follow laws that you never agreed to. If we accept ancapism as true, then there is literally nothing wrong with killing those people.",,Anonymous,845c60a34ea88b98e594ea44eef7b6ff.1000x1000x1.jpg,KnM1mXvQfdAgIbVckv5oog==,US,,1493195083 122868009,122878800,2017-04-26 08:30:52,">>122877669 It is okay and morally correct to abuse the system, to take an agorist approach. Murdering is not equitable retribution. Also, we need to consider that even if it was taken to a situation where murdering is moral (a literal pay taxes or die) people are often discouraged of applying moral principles by fear of consequences.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493195452 122868009,122878991,2017-04-26 08:33:41,"Anyone know any good libertarian right youtubers? Other than the giants like Molyneux and Cantwell? Mr Dapperton is fucking awful, and That Guy T is uninsightful at best... Any suggestions?",,Anonymous,1491544409252.png,jcK5iA69ZjaNINFq9Jy0Fw==,AU,,1493195621 122868009,122879021,2017-04-26 08:33:59,">>122878800 >Shooting thieves is okay >Taxation is theft >Shooting people who collect taxes is not okay",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493195639 122868009,122879296,2017-04-26 08:37:40,">>122878991 LibertarianRealist TrueDilTom, (who is confirmed for browsing /lrg/)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493195860 122868009,122879302,2017-04-26 08:37:41,">>122879021 I said, in a situation where your life might be in danger, it is morally okay to shoot tax collectors. Another thing is whether or not you will have what it takes to do it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493195861 122868009,122879569,2017-04-26 08:41:09,">>122879302 But if we accept the premise that taxation is theft, then anybody who benefits from the ""stealing"" of taxpayer money is no morally better than a mugger. If you say that the state is inherently evil, then you can't pick and choose which parts are evil and which are not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493196069 122868009,122879754,2017-04-26 08:43:23,">>122879296 thanks, australian as well? not enough of them down here.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493196203 122868009,122880089,2017-04-26 08:47:39,">>122879754 I don't know, the only Australian libertarian I know is Mad Max.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493196459 122868009,122880684,2017-04-26 08:55:38,"TrueDilTom is good, takes our best memes",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493196938 122868009,122880937,2017-04-26 08:59:12,what does everyone think of augustus invictus? That slave owner accent he does combined with being 90% rhetoric makes me wonder why everyone likes him so much.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493197152 122868009,122881043,2017-04-26 09:00:26,">>122879569 With these new premises I must renounce my previous post because I thought we were talking on a personal level, if we talk about a general view, morality is subjective, so arguing in moral terms like if we could project our morals onto other people is retarded. Taxation is theft, there's nothing moral or immoral inherent to it, I just want to live in a society where theft is not allowed, in a personal level. Stoning women to death for being unfaithful to their husbands is murder, doesn't mean it is not consider moral in those societies, morality is totally subjective as I said.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493197226 122868009,122881718,2017-04-26 09:08:58,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1493197738 122868009,122881881,2017-04-26 09:10:44,"Will the various /pol/ factions ever stop the infighting, unite and go up against the real enemy?",,Anonymous,1493131780597.png,8hZ9oyvvSmLAMXfXzC3JXQ==,AT,,1493197844 122868009,122881907,2017-04-26 09:11:02,">>122868009 Guys is Somalia /ourcountry/? Just the thought of getting together with my friends to overprice food and create a Kangdom with military power is irresistable.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1493197862 122868009,122882367,2017-04-26 09:16:53,">>122881881 I hope so, being that we share many goals. The D&C is real and being used by our enemies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493198213 122868009,122882961,2017-04-26 09:23:40,Bump,,Anonymous,de59a22584a9aae34595f41d9d48bdb67fed5a926715eb3ec96d1f9b685ff8a5.png,56+k1GqJXoRky0or/OESKQ==,US,,1493198620 122868009,122883065,2017-04-26 09:24:57,">>122869613 Keynesianism is a load of shit",,Anonymous,why keynesianism is shit.png,Z/MRXULF8FIy6qVz43VAOA==,CA,,1493198697 122868009,122883678,2017-04-26 09:32:44,">>122878292 >>122879021 Resolve to serve no more, and you are at one freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer;then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces",,Anonymous,wGJeLa9.jpg,e9QACuoKG8XXt3MV/Fgqcw==,US,,1493199164 122868009,122883780,2017-04-26 09:34:00,">>122883065 >someone saves your joke",,Anonymous,tfw to clever too use helicopters.png,ACU6pKCeca5UM0X5NqimKQ==,GB,,1493199240 122868009,122884773,2017-04-26 09:45:43,,,Anonymous,leftiesconfusingnames.png,Ba+bJ9CDeHaw95YWJzuYpw==,US,,1493199943 122868009,122885120,2017-04-26 09:49:53,"requesting the wallpaper of ron paul (was a e s t h e t i c) with the words ""the real fun begins now"" or something to that extent i've seen it posted on /pol/ once, i've been waiting for a libertarian general for two days now to ask for it, why don't we have these daily",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493200193 122868009,122885206,2017-04-26 09:51:04,">>122883780 kek, well done The worst part is that in the real world they'd have to pay income taxes on those transactions.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1493200264 122868009,122885298,2017-04-26 09:52:08,">""Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice"" Should we shun this phrase and start a violent revolution? Someone has to do something about these god damn commies. We need some madman to start the fire. I'm hoping Assange has something. >>122885120 /lrg/ is pretty much a daily thread these days. Perhaps we need to start spreading the word more throughout /pol/.",,Anonymous,1491760367813.jpg,WzsMVX99ZytLO62kl4GyGw==,GB,,1493200328 122868009,122885365,2017-04-26 09:52:54,">Wish I could vote for any party I want to, libertarians, constitutionalists, republicans or whatever >Now though, fucking judges are politicized and if dems get the chance they put in anti 1st and 2nd amendment judges in as many courts as possible >feel as if I have to vote Republican down the ticket, even the shitty authoritarian neocons, just to ensure my rights SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED When did this start? Who was the first president that started to put up anti bill of rights judges as federal / supreme court nominees",,Anonymous,1485312091938.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1493200374 122868009,122885602,2017-04-26 09:55:31,">>122870630 I think free will is a bad choice of words. Maybe use the word ""voluntary."" Free will doesn't exist.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493200531 122868009,122885749,2017-04-26 09:56:55,">>122885602 I implore you to look into free will. Why do believe in determinism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493200615 122868009,122885931,2017-04-26 09:59:13,">>122885365 democracy isn't libertarian at all always corrupts into socialism it's honestly a miracle that we've lasted this long we're NEVER going to vote our way out of this http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/",,Anonymous,1488043780441.gif,qRC2drhOYM1FCKCN0zqiVQ==,US,,1493200753 122868009,122886051,2017-04-26 10:00:34,">>122885749 There's no way to explain it (at least that I've heard of). Either we are slaves to causality, or we are slaves to randomness. There's no alternative (again, that I can notice). Also, in meditation I've noticed that I don't choose my thoughts, they come to me out of me out of nowhere. Same goes for my decisions. I think we are just observers, and we feel like we are authors.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493200834 122868009,122886097,2017-04-26 10:00:58,">>122885749 years of looking at stats, graphs, and trends that are supposed to describe the free choices of individuals but overwhelmingly show basic and repeatable tendencies does something to you man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493200858 122868009,122886467,2017-04-26 10:04:36,">>122885931 Democracy is the ONLY reason that you have ANY voice in the system at all. Do you think a dictator would be down with the 2nd or 1st Amendment? Yeah, in theory, you could have an enlightened dictator who is libertarian. But in practice, when has that ever happened?",,Anonymous,Antonin_Scalia_Official_SCOTUS_Portrait_crop.jpg,qCg64B1WK8kez5oAltA8eQ==,US,,1493201076 122868009,122886683,2017-04-26 10:06:40,">>122885931 We've lasted this long due to the US being founded as a constitutional republic. It's the single greatest way to structure a society which democratically gives its population some choice in their leaders. But you're right, all democracy eventually corrupts into socialism as the good natured are tricked into believing the socialist lies, and the poor / lazy vote in droves for the state to sponsor them. I still believe that a state can and should exist in some form, but I'm starting to believe that the solution is more of a form of monarchy or 'fascist' rule in which the hierarchy in place maintains libertarian values for society. But without a civil war that is a complete impossibility, and we have to simply hope that the dems either do not get the chance to take us further down the awful path of socialism, or that the American people wake up and call for revolution if we ever get too close. The most painful thing for me, is knowing that half this country, the country that was once the leading speaker against the tyrannies of socialism, is now sympathetic to socialist values.",,Anonymous,1490441174418.png,/6qVfP5oOKJtyXvb9PhDvQ==,US,,1493201200 122868009,122886711,2017-04-26 10:07:02,"if there's no government, then how am I supposed to know that fucking dogs and doing heroin is wrong? libergtardians btfo",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493201222 122868009,122886800,2017-04-26 10:07:58,What is the libertarian position on the death penalty? Do you support it? Do you think it's a violation of the NAP? What do you believe?,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493201278 122868009,122886814,2017-04-26 10:08:07,">>122885749 With all this said, it's just semantics. I believe people can still be held accountable for their actions, and other people can react appropriately. The same we react to other things we don't consider to have ""free will."" Like pests, or disease. At the end of the day criminals are dangerous and we still gotta keep ourselves safe.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493201287 122868009,122887098,2017-04-26 10:10:53,">>122886051 I disagree, there are objective laws of nature that we are slaves to, but we have a range of possible actions we can take to change the future, and effect change. It's a long watch, but the ""what is natural law"" video in the op explains. >>122886097 Stats of human action only show preferable behavior. Stats cannot display free will.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493201453 122868009,122887160,2017-04-26 10:11:32,">>122886467 This is the saddest thing to me. Anarchy does sound incredibly ethical and moral to me. No one has the right to kill you or lock you up for not paying taxes? That sounds sweet! But I fear that is impossible to maintain. Someone would fucking find a way to rule over everyone else in the anarchist society eventually. Humans just gravitate towards this pattern all the time.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493201492 122868009,122887238,2017-04-26 10:12:23,">>122886467 Democracy without absolute right of association and dissociation is incompatible with private property. Converts all property rights into simple usufruct.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493201543 122868009,122887391,2017-04-26 10:13:53,">>122887160 >Someone would fucking find a way to rule over everyone else in the anarchist society eventually",,Anonymous,lrg on vigilantism.png,GiMCotDkA2EJHogCAL7nfg==,GB,,1493201633 122868009,122887490,2017-04-26 10:14:52,">>122886467 Well think about it like this. We have politicians who do sponsor libertarian values, even if it's much easier to campaign on socialist values and as politicians said socialist values actually benefit them both short and long term as they are largely exempt from the costs. So the opportunity does exist. I'm starting to think about the possibility of a constitutional monarchy or constitutional fascist state. We've never really seen a monarchy or fascist rule be bounded by a constitution before, and if it set the guidelines for what they were and were not allowed to do, it's possible that we could create a society that would stay stationed in its libertarian values. As is, democracies, and even republics, have all fallen to either anarchy or socialism given enough time, then they inevitably collapse and restart from there, but only after having lost hundreds of years of progress. As appealing as it is, democracy can never sustain libertarian values forever, no matter how many checks and balances are put into place.",,Anonymous,1490842998696.jpg,OxHjTRaxwO60gRvwx6BiIg==,US,,1493201692 122868009,122887563,2017-04-26 10:15:31,">>122887098 I'll try to give the video a watch. But as of right now, I see no reason why the molecules in our brain would be outside the cycle of cause and effect. My other problem is, as I said, I can't even see how an alternative would work. Say our brains are not part of this cycle of cause and effect. Is that free will? If something just had effects without causes, isn't that just chaos?",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493201731 122868009,122887577,2017-04-26 10:15:40,">>122886800 A market choice. You could subject yourself to the possibility of death penalty if that made you feel safer (by knowing those who surround you are also exposed to it). IE: There's a community that contractually states the possibility of death penalty given some conditions, if this community proves to be the safest community, then it will show it as a superior market choice, and would be replicated by other communities. It's not a violation of the NAP as long as you voluntarily accept being exposed to it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493201740 122868009,122887915,2017-04-26 10:19:17,">>122887391 >tfw someone takes pic of your posts for future use",,Anonymous,comfypepe.png,QrxAmgHkWhNSMeRTy0CVsg==,MT,,1493201957 122868009,122888161,2017-04-26 10:21:33,">>122886800 Anyone that has been issued the death penalty has generally violated the NAP already, so that's not the issue. I would say it's a cost - benefit and equivalency crime. Death penalty should never be issued to someone that did not murder with intent, but from there it could be issued to people who would leach off the prison system long enough to the point that the cost of killing them is less than the cost of imprisoning them. I think bringing back exile would be a nice thing for cases that aren't extreme. Tell them they've got one week to leave the country and never return or they get sentenced to the death penalty, and have someone closely monitor them as they prepare to leave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493202093 122868009,122888174,2017-04-26 10:21:39,">>122887915 >>122887391 This is a great argument. And makes me a little more optimistic.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493202099 122868009,122888259,2017-04-26 10:22:33,">>122887563 Free will is bound by cause and effect as I understand. I'm intrigued, how did you come to embrace liberty as an ethical principle if you don't believe in free will?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493202153 122868009,122888769,2017-04-26 10:27:46,">>122888259 Oh it's because even if you cut free will out of the picture there is still a difference between voluntary and involuntary action. Having a stomach ache isn't the same as lifting your arm to pick up an object, say. And when people can't exercise their voluntary intentions, they suffer. If anything is ethical, I think it's limiting suffering as much as we can while allowing people to experience well-being to as high a degree as we can.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493202466 122868009,122889473,2017-04-26 10:34:39,,,Anonymous,Montalk_Root_Evil.png,CzRJPvYzufDe70eH9fxC7w==,US,,1493202879 122868009,122889528,2017-04-26 10:35:10,,,Anonymous,anarchy subreddit is gone.png,0DVZuN4bndFucgNHRL482A==,US,,1493202910 122868009,122889601,2017-04-26 10:35:49,,,Anonymous,natural law.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,US,,1493202949 122868009,122889696,2017-04-26 10:36:47,,,Anonymous,slavery.jpg,p5M6av1cG2CPFW3QmZAAtw==,US,,1493203007 122868009,122889723,2017-04-26 10:37:05,,,Anonymous,1492945909809.jpg,1i071nv3kXVwluPrS9ulHg==,US,,1493203025 122868009,122889765,2017-04-26 10:37:30,,,Anonymous,muh benefits.jpg,MOKE5m0VEBmcaOPS8RE6Rg==,US,,1493203050 122868009,122889801,2017-04-26 10:37:52,,,Anonymous,sovereign.jpg,9Tnf4cJk/BQjdrudl8o5QQ==,US,,1493203072 122868009,122889855,2017-04-26 10:38:20,">>122889528 I've always associated anarchism with the left, when I was a normie. Any idea why I might have had that impression? Also unrelated but I kinda wish we lived in a normal world so Ted Cruz could be president. The guy is pretty smart.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493203100 122868009,122889861,2017-04-26 10:38:23,">>122886467 >>122886683 >As a hereditary monopolist, a king regards the territory and the people under his rule as his personal property and engages in the monopolistic exploitation of this “property.” Under democracy, monopoly and monopolistic exploitation do not disappear. Rather, what happens is this: instead of a king and a nobility who regard the country as their private property, a temporary and interchangeable caretaker is put in monopolistic charge of the country. The caretaker does not own the country, but as long as he is in office he is permitted to use it to his and his protégés’ advantage. He owns its current use – usufruct– but not its capital stock. This does not eliminate exploitation. To the contrary, it makes exploitation less calculating and carried out with little or no regard to the capital stock. Exploitation becomes shortsighted and capital consumption will be systematically promoted. I was referring to this tendency observed by Hoppe in Democracy:the god that failed because of routine replacement of leaders, ""public"" ownership of the government, and decision by popularity, we get a tragedy of the commons in which everyone is trying to steal from everyone else Under monarchical rule, public expenditures averaged 3%-8% of GDP In democracy it can go from a minimum of 20% to as high as 80%",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493203103 122868009,122889868,2017-04-26 10:38:26,,,Anonymous,11406276_10155799571990360_4132018133430363692_o.jpg,XUdBLYH+kXxBlzFwnsc1ZA==,US,,1493203106 122868009,122889908,2017-04-26 10:38:53,">>122868009 oh god this thread again. Go the fuck away liberal pussies. Learn what Western Civilization is and it's values and traits and figure out why the ""NAP"" doesn't fucking work as a defensive strategy against the real threats of Communism, Jihadists, and others. Liberalism is a terrible ideal.",,Anonymous,1492909074400.jpg,uI/FC3DNo5Fq5pVpKytfqw==,US,,1493203133 122868009,122889916,2017-04-26 10:39:00,,,Anonymous,1492740102005.jpg,XuSVza3ON6tareEMcjcBZg==,US,,1493203140 122868009,122889958,2017-04-26 10:39:25,">>122889601 Ya know many years ago I read this book by Thomas Campbell called ""My big TOE"" (my big theory of everything) And throughout the book he came to the conclusion that we are better when our actions are stemmed in love, and our actions are worse when they stem from fear. Just crazy to see the same narrative pop up in a completely different context. Very cool",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493203165 122868009,122889977,2017-04-26 10:39:35,">>122888769 Doesn't voluntary interaction imply choice? If all things are deterministic how can anyone consent, agree or disagree with anything?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493203175 122868009,122890037,2017-04-26 10:40:11,,,Anonymous,fd00070de90ebe9f74cfe5f4b7f5ca41.jpg,z8nD07xx5XYhOyGC47TQZQ==,NL,,1493203211 122868009,122890043,2017-04-26 10:40:14,">>122889908 >mom and dad never loved me so i need mommy and daddy government to protect me from the evil world back to your basement you incapable man child",,Anonymous,1490234496867.jpg,JKR0dnCBeaDwZFxzus3CHg==,US,,1493203214 122868009,122890098,2017-04-26 10:40:40,">>122889958 That image btw is from the natural law video I suggested to you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493203240 122868009,122890212,2017-04-26 10:41:41,">>122889528 Top kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493203301 122868009,122890237,2017-04-26 10:41:54,">>122889528 Anyone that calls themselves an anarchist or an anarcho communist is not actually for individuality or is anti state, because they still believe in some kind of legally enforced hierarchy that forcefully manages the business operations and economics of a country. I really only consider ancaps to be anarchists, and any others to simply be living in a make believe pipe dream where every single person agrees with them. I think going complete ancap is silly and unrealistic, but the shit ancoms spout makes me think they must be perpetually high.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493203314 122868009,122890253,2017-04-26 10:42:02,>>122889958,,Anonymous,tc1.jpg,x0RfnSTKaxa+JpR5dUnGxQ==,US,,1493203322 122868009,122890280,2017-04-26 10:42:21,,,Anonymous,tc2.jpg,0Vu0tDmrzKZG2seM/GlKSw==,US,,1493203341 122868009,122890318,2017-04-26 10:42:48,,,Anonymous,tc3.jpg,oRdBCeFmEuvITZ79MQtm4w==,US,,1493203368 122868009,122890376,2017-04-26 10:43:17,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InsuhHV_di4,,Anonymous,tc4.jpg,5OO4c399+WzrmX0634Y0gw==,US,,1493203397 122868009,122890489,2017-04-26 10:44:31,">>122887238 >Under monarchical rule, public expenditures averaged 3%-8% of GDP >In democracy it can go from a minimum of 20% to as high as 80% And yet, it is essentially indisputable that capitalism and international trade has thrived far more under democracy than any other system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493203471 122868009,122890636,2017-04-26 10:45:45,">>122889977 Oh, I don't dispute that we do make choices, I agree. I just think we make choices the same way a computer would make choices (just a lot more variables involved). In a first person shooter my ai companion can choose to take cover/shoot/reload and he does this based on the distance between him and the enemy, the amount of bullets he has left, his health etc. All these weighed together and then he picks the most useful choice based on his programming. And if he chose to take cover, but he couldn't cause I chained his feet down, that would be cutting off his liberty (although in this case it wouldn't matter cause AI characters can't suffer). But humans can indeed suffer! So I don't think it's right to be doing that.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493203545 122868009,122890640,2017-04-26 10:45:47,">>122889861 Yea, that's why I said that the ideal state would be a monarchy founded on libertarian principles and protected by a libertarian constitution. I can admit that the situation is extremely unlikely, which is why it never occurred, but it's a nice little ideal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493203547 122868009,122890653,2017-04-26 10:45:55,"Why and how did the LP get taken over by right wing nuts? We call ourselves the ""party of principle,"" and we base property rights on the principle that everyone is entitled to the fruits of his labor. Land, however, is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and our system of land tenure is based not on labor, but on decrees of privilege issued from the state, called titles. In fact, the term ""real estate"" is Middle English (originally French) for ""royal state."" The ""title"" to land is the essence of the title of nobility, and the root of noble privilege. The royal free lunch When the state granted land titles to a fraction of the population, it gave that fraction devices with which to levy, and pocket, tolls on the fruits of the labor of others. Those without land privileges must either buy or rent those privileges from the people who received the grants or from their assignees. Thus the state titles enable large landowners to collect a transfer payment, or ""free lunch"" from the actual land users. The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. --Carlyle",,Anonymous,emmememe.jpg,ii2fbCLmnFokum3pcpYiXg==,US,,1493203555 122868009,122890751,2017-04-26 10:46:43,">>122890653 Tortured rationalizations According to royal libertarians, land becomes private property when one mixes one's labor with it. And mixing what is yours with what is not yours in order to own the whole thing is considered great sport. But the notion is filled with problems. How much labor does it take to claim land, and how much land can one claim for that labor? And for how long can one make that claim? According to classical liberals, land belonged to the user for as long as the land was being used, and no longer. But according to royal libertarians, land belongs to the first user, forever. So, do the oceans belong to the heirs of the first person to take a fish out or put a boat in? Does someone who plows the same field each year own only one field, while someone who plows a different field each year owns dozens of fields? Should the builder of the first transcontinental railroad own the continent? Shouldn't we at least have to pay a toll to cross the tracks? Are there no common rights to the earth at all? To royal libertarians there are not, but classical liberals recognized that unlimited ownership of land never flowed from use, but from the state: A right of property in movable things is admitted before the establishment of government. A separate property in lands not till after that establishment.... He who plants a field keeps possession of it till he has gathered the produce, after which one has as good a right as another to occupy it. Government must be established and laws provided, before lands can be separately appropriated and their owner protected in his possession. Till then the property is in the body of the nation. --Thomas Jefferson",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1493203603 122868009,122890768,2017-04-26 10:46:56,">>122890237 Anarchism is silly and unrealistic. Its simply though the natural state of man. Anybody with an IQ above nigger can figure out Anarchy isn't the natural state of human civilization. That requires systems that would cooperate with a state of anarchy such as any voluntary system a man enters himself into. I see more than likely a society based around Contributionism, Meritocracy, and extremely harsh punishments for violators of natural law, the socially higher you are in that society the harsher the punishments would be. Something like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R8oJsoliw0 Take Brehon Law for example.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493203616 122868009,122890785,2017-04-26 10:47:07,">>122890751 Phony Laissez Faire AFTER conquest and confiscation have been effected, and the State set up, its first concern is with the land.... In its capacity as ultimate landlord, the State distributes the land among its beneficiaries on its own terms. --Albert J. Nock, Our Enemy the State The English free-trader Cobden remarked that ""you who free the land will do more for the people than we who have freed trade."" Indeed, how can anyone speak of free trade when the trader has to pay tribute to some favored land-entitlement holder in order to do business? This imperfect policy of non-intervention, or laissez-faire, led straight to a most hideous and dreadful economic exploitation; starvation wages, slum dwelling, killing hours, pauperism, coffin-ships, child-labour--nothing like it had ever been seen in modern times...People began to say, if this is what State abstention comes to, let us have some State intervention. But the state had intervened; that was the whole trouble. The State had established one monopoly--the landlord's monopoly of economic rent--thereby shutting off great hordes of people from free access to the only source of human subsistence, and driving them into factories to work for whatever Mr. Gradgrind and Mr. Bottles chose to give them. The land of England, while by no means nearly all actually occupied, was all legally occupied; and this State-created monopoly enabled landlords to satisfy their needs and desires with little exertion or none, but it also removed the land from competition with industry in the labor market, thus creating a huge, constant and exigent labour-surplus. [Emphasis Nock's] --Albert J. Nock, ""The Gods' Lookout"" February 1934 State land vs. common land",,Anonymous,game-design-3-638.jpg,aFcFBJvxgU7NP2S7iy2Ijw==,US,,1493203627 122868009,122890842,2017-04-26 10:47:35,">>122890653 >Land, however, is not the fruit of anyone's labor what is agriculture ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493203655 122868009,122890852,2017-04-26 10:47:42,">>122890785 State land vs. common land The distinction between common property and state property is lost on royal libertarians. Common property is that to which we all have inalienable rights. State property is that which the state actually owns, and can dispose of as it sees fit. For example, a public right of way is literally a right of way. Under principles of common law, nobody, not even the king, could close a traveled road and make it private property. A state maintenance truck, on the other hand, is state property, which can be sold if it no longer suits state purposes. The earth, therefore, and all things therein, are the general property of all mankind, from the immediate gift of the Creator. --William Blackstone It is a royal libertarian notion, and not a classical liberal ideal, to treat land as state property, for if land did not rightfully belong to the state, how could the state have granted it to favored citizens? Classical liberals, not royal libertarians, are the ones who deny the state's right to appropriate the earth and allocate it to privileged individuals on favored terms. Classical liberals also who hold the key to abolishing taxation, by suggesting that the community (not the state) charge a user fee to landholders based on the value of the land.",,Anonymous,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,US,,1493203662 122868009,122890970,2017-04-26 10:48:45,"If town 1 and town 2 have two different security forces and a disagreement between each town begins, say the extradition of a murderer from town 1 to town 2 and no agreement is reached then is open conflict with tanks and aircraft (If they have them) between two security forces a thing which would happen? And what about micro aggressions how does ancap manage that? I think im more of a minarchist for reasons like that",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493203725 122868009,122891075,2017-04-26 10:49:42,">>122890842 Planting seeds and sowing crops =/ making land the fruit of that labor is literally the fruit you grow and you should be entitled to keep all of it.",,Anonymous,24cbbb19d4975a359247ec9cb3c34c70.jpg,JMu7GdSXWjWSR+ycs8NMcA==,US,,1493203782 122868009,122891140,2017-04-26 10:50:13,">>122890852 The ultimate user's fee Classical liberals recognized that exclusive access to land, and especially to more land than one was using, was a privilege that should be paid for, thereby eliminating the need for taxes. It is not a fee for using land, but a fee for the state privilege of denying use of that land to everyone else. Men did not make the earth.... It is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property.... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds. --Tom Paine, ""Agrarian Justice,"" paragraphs 11 to 15 Another means of silently lessening the inequality of [landed] property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions or property in geometrical progression as they rise. --Thomas Jefferson Today's land value tax advocates consider graduated land value tax to be unnecessary and problematic, leading to artificial subdivision (and phony subdivision) of land. The point is that Jefferson, to whom libertarians pay homage, considered land monopoly a great evil and land value tax a remedy, as did many other classical liberals: Ground rents are a species of revenue which the owner, in many cases, enjoys without any care or attention of his own. Ground rents are, therefore, perhaps a species of revenue which can best bear to have a peculiar tax imposed upon them. --Adam Smith Landlords grow richer in their sleep, without working, risking, or economizing. The increase in the value of land, arising as it does from the efforts of an entire community, should belong to the community and not to the individual who might hold title. --John Stuart Mil",,Anonymous,TkkrWa5.jpg,VQg5CGVDwJT8pqg0y+9wmg==,US,,1493203813 122868009,122891227,2017-04-26 10:50:58,">>122891140 Two different kinds of indirect taxation One of the most perverted twisting of concepts is reflected in what Hamilton called ""indirect taxation."" To him, and to many royal libertarians, indirect taxation is ""hidden"" taxation, as a value-added tax or sales tax that is buried in the price of purchased goods. This kind of indirectness is hardly admirable, and is similar to the kind of indirectness involved in chicanery and duplicity. Small wonder Jefferson called Hamilton a monarchist. The Articles of Confederation embodied an entirely different concept of indirect taxation. The United States was to levy a tax, not on individual property holders, but on each state, based on its aggregate land value. The assumption was that each state would levy a similar tax on each county, and so on down to the individual. In this way, the individual would never have to face a federal tax agent directly, and if the federal government did not have the full support of the states, it could not bully them as easily as it could bully individuals. Unfortunately, states did not support the federal government to its satisfaction from the beginning (being strapped from the war). Rather than working things out patiently, Hamilton introduced power-centralizing measures into the new Constitution. One was the other kind of indirect taxation, the mosquito-bite kind that you don't see happening. Royal libertarians trumpet this covert taxation as a virtue over direct real estate taxation, even when it means that ""free trade"" is being taxed.",,Anonymous,AnarchismTree09.gif,7QPD8RGPI7DZoPFc+kgttQ==,US,,1493203858 122868009,122891238,2017-04-26 10:51:06,">>122891075 then the Netherlands coasts aren't the product of labor ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493203866 122868009,122891290,2017-04-26 10:51:38,">>122868009 Gentlemen, I have a dilemma that I cannot reconcile with right-libertarianism (i.e. Hoppe's conception of anarcho capitalism): >The question of market induced degeneracy (e.g. strip clubs, pornography, prostitution, etc). I have serious qualms with the hypersexual society of today and I do not see how it could be solved under anarcho-capitalism. This is one instance where I see the necessity of state intervention. What would Hoppe do to rectify this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493203898 122868009,122891297,2017-04-26 10:51:40,">>122891227 Blocking Locke John Locke is often misrepresented by royal libertarians, who quote him very selectively. For example, Locke did say that: Whatsoever then he removes out of the state that nature hath provided, and left it in, he hath mixed his labour with, and joined to it something that is his own, and thereby makes it his property. But Locke condemned anyone who took more than he needed as a ""spoiler of the commons"": ...if the fruits rotted, or the venison putrified, before he could spend it, he offended against the common law of nature, and was liable to be punished; he invaded his neighbour's share, for he had no right, farther than his use called for any of them, and they might serve to afford him conveniences of life.",,Anonymous,ny-state-single-tax-league-sign-undated.jpg,VnxpX5ckK+3OQ+09PEeTFA==,US,,1493203900 122868009,122891443,2017-04-26 10:52:56,">>122891297 Locke also restricted appropriation of land by the proviso, ignored by royal libertarians, that there must be still enough, and as good left; and more than the yet unprovided could use. So that, in effect, there was never the less left for others because of his enclosure for himself: for he that leaves as much as another can make use of, does as good as take nothing at all. Now if the situation is that there is enough free land, and as good, left after you take and cultivate your land, than your land has no market value, for who would pay you for land that is not better than land that can be had for free? So, besides the fact that Locke's justification of privatizing land is far more limited than royal libertarians portray it to be, it is irrelevant to the question of land value tax, as it applies only to land that has no value. Furthermore, Locke based his scenario on pre-monetary societies, where a landholder would find that ""it was useless, as well as dishonest, to carve himself too much, or take more than he needed."" With the introduction of money, Locke noted, all land quickly became appropriated. Why? Because with money, those who can take more land than they have personal use for suddenly have reason to do so, as between them they will have taken all the land, and others will have to pay rent to them. So, with the introduction of money, the Lockean rationale for landed property falls apart, even according to Locke. And while Locke did not propose a remedy specifically for to this problem, he repeatedly stated that all taxes should be on real estate.",,Anonymous,capita.jpg,W72SLUCJ6GP4ILTMYuThWw==,US,,1493203976 122868009,122891526,2017-04-26 10:53:35,">>122890640 >I can admit that the situation is extremely unlikely compared to the average democracy, monarchy has always tended to be more libertarian in economic terms again, monarchies averaged 3%-8% GDP in public spending the most libertarian states right now are the fragments of the collapsed British empire: Singapore, Hong Kong, United Arab Emirates",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493204015 122868009,122891527,2017-04-26 10:53:36,">>122891443 The tragedy of the common misunderstanding In their search for excuses to deny any common right to land, royal libertarians are fond of citing Garrett Hardin's work, ""Tragedy of the Commons."" Or at least they cite the title, which is all most royal libertarians are familiar with. Hardin is himself an advocate of land value taxation, and has criticized misinterpretations of his work with the lament that ""The title of my 1968 paper should have been `The Tragedy of the Unmanaged Commons.'"" [Emphasis Hardin's] Thoughtful Libertarian Party leadership Fortunately, the bias toward royal libertarianism has been shaken off by many of the philosophical leaders of the party. Founder David Nolan supports land value tax as the only tax that does not fall on productivity, and the late Karl Hess often described land value tax as the one tax to levy until the state could be abolished entirely. It is mostly the von Miseans, the Objectivists, and the wishful thinkers who adopt the royal rationalization that they can hoard all the land to themselves with impunity.",,Anonymous,image_single-tax-liberator.gif,z7xkN+QSuPVb3em993ztvg==,US,,1493204016 122868009,122891654,2017-04-26 10:54:41,,,Anonymous,quote-if-the-right-to-vote-were-expanded-to-seven-year-olds-its-policies-would-most-definitely-hans-hermann-hoppe-70-31-11.jpg,3bfmBHWB8HuQpFdht5Pazg==,NL,,1493204081 122868009,122891715,2017-04-26 10:55:14,">>122891290 >I have serious qualms with the hypersexual society of today and I do not see how it could be solved under anarcho-capitalism. This is propaganda. The White birthrate has been halved since 1912. There is no promiscuity, just a rather small proportion of very expressive promiscuity. I see where your coming from though, and traditionalist values are the norm of our European people. How can we eradicate the Jewish virus that's nibbling at values? Simple, stop stealing the energy, labor, and wealth from whites to pay for Shaneeqaws 8 niglets. The less government you have in society the less there is big daddy father archetypal government for women to lean on and commit degeneracies. Your concerns are absolutely valid.",,Anonymous,1492392877823.jpg,KoXYUSXbCRi3rM0Wh5//Lg==,US,,1493204114 122868009,122891784,2017-04-26 10:55:51,">>122891238 funny you mention the Netherlands; they are actually one of the places that have successfully implemented some LVT tax policy. Whatever was built by human hands are a product of labor but not the coast itself",,Anonymous,poft.jpg,YPWm5ZXOqe9v6o/55aHw7A==,US,,1493204151 122868009,122891880,2017-04-26 10:56:40,">>122891527 The red, red herring Royal libertarians are fond of confusing the classical liberal concept of common land ownership, particularly as espoused by land value tax advocate Henry George, with socialism. Yet socialists have always been contemptuous of George and of the distinction between land monopoly and capital monopolies. However, Frank Chodorov and Albert J. Nock (the original editors of The Freeman) were both advocates of George's economic remedies as well as lovers of individual liberty. The only reformer abroad in the world in my time who interested me in the least was Henry George, because his project did not contemplate prescription, but, on the contrary, would reduce it to almost zero. He was the only one of the lot who believed in freedom, or (as far as I could see) had any approximation to an intelligent idea of what freedom is, and of the economic prerequisites to attaining it....One is immensely tickled to see how things are coming out nowadays with reference to his doctrine, for George was in fact the best friend the capitalist ever had. He built up the most complete and most impregnable defense of the rights of capital that was ever constructed, and if the capitalists of his day had had sense enough to dig in behind it, their successors would not now be squirming under the merciless exactions which collectivism is laying on them, and which George would have no scruples whatever about describing as sheer highwaymanry. --Albert J. Nock ""Thoughts on Utopia""",,Anonymous,"Poll tax, LVT, Income tax.png",vMTrYQ0YxJLGNAWpOt3grg==,US,,1493204200 122868009,122891996,2017-04-26 10:57:41,">>122891290 Assuming the end-state of private cities, the mutual law of said city would be the abandonment of 'moral decay' like the examples you gave, not least because whorehouses attract filth and it would reduce the value of one's property. You also have to ask yourself whether such a moral decay would exist in a system that is inherently opposed to such a state.",,Anonymous,1492901384994.png,Qwszt9Py2Ku0oZvyZtPPxA==,GB,,1493204261 122868009,122892049,2017-04-26 10:58:05,">>122891880 Von Mises misses Ludwig von Mises acknowledged in several places wholly unique distinctions between land and capital, but in his zeal to denounce land value tax, stated that, Classical economy erred when it assigned land a distinct place in its theoretical scheme. Land is, in its economic sense, a factor of production, and the laws determining the formation of the prices of land are the same that determine the formation of other forms of production. Or, paraphrasing of Jay Leno, go ahead and buy up the land. We'll make more. The difference between land and capital is huge, and explains why the cost of silicon chips goes down as demand goes up, while the cost of Silicon Valley goes up as demand goes up. There is no natural monopolization of capital, but, with state sanction, there is monopolization of land. But von Mises would sooner obscure these distinctions in socialist fashion than to embrace a proposal he mistakenly thought to be socialist. In his first edition of Human Action, von Mises attacked land value tax as based on the socialist principle that legitimate property flows only from labor. But that is also a libertarian principle, a classical liberal principle, an Austrian principle, and even the von Misean principle behind private property! So, by the third edition, von Mises changed his text to read that land taxers claim legitimate property flows only from manual labor. This is much more logically consistent, but factually incorrect. It is a correct assessment of what many socialists believe, but it is not a correct assessment of what land taxers believe. Henry George, the most prominent land taxer of all, wrote in his magnum opus, Progress and Poverty,",,Anonymous,k41V9sG.jpg,ZyhaoL9vTAUfTbHmXq59+A==,US,,1493204285 122868009,122892104,2017-04-26 10:58:31,">>122892049 Von Mises Thus the term labor includes all human exertion in the production of wealth, and wages, being that part of the produce which goes to labor, includes all reward for such exertion. There is, therefore, in the political-economic sense of the term, no distinction as to the kind of labor, or as to whether its reward is received through an employer or not.... George also defended the ownership of property that flows from the employment of capital. Perhaps von Mises was biased by his location in Europe, where classical liberalism had not fared as well as in America. He might also have first seen land value tax in the Communist Manifesto, and not realized that it was there as a socialist ploy to co-opt support from classical liberalism. (Marx expressed contempt for land value tax as a reform in its own right, and openly stated that his support of it was only to draw people to what he really wanted, which was to control capital.) If this is where von Mises got his first exposure to the idea, it would not be surprising to see him close his mind to it.",,Anonymous,20nds.gif,UWC31iPhu3dNZfPYFv6MgA==,US,,1493204311 122868009,122892178,2017-04-26 10:59:08,">>122891526 I'm speaking more in terms of a monarchy cropping up again in the modern era. The masses simply would not allow it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493204348 122868009,122892275,2017-04-26 11:00:12,">>122892104 Who has the authority to collect land rent? Many libertarians struggle with the legitimate question of how any governing body achieves rightful jurisdiction in a community, and we join them in opposing collection by such super-statist organizations as the United Nations, which is substantially a federation of tyrannies. However, royal libertarians raise the question selectively and rhetorically in regard to community collection of land rents. They acknowledge that there must be courts to settle, among other things, property disputes. It seems rather obvious that whatever entity has authority to rule on who gets the land also has authority to rule on who gets the land rent. Fear of a funded government There is also a well founded libertarian concern that land rent could provide funds enough to support a corrupt and oppressive government. Most libertarian supporters of the governmental collection of land rent therefore fall into two camps. One would give the people power to limit how much money the government can take, but would stipulate that all such money come entirely from ground rents and natural resource severance royalties. The other would take the full rent, but would stipulate that the government can still only spend what the citizens authorize it to spend. The rest would be distributed on a per-capita basis.",,Anonymous,willy.jpg,f5IEpTYdzB/nJ7KEauYaCQ==,US,,1493204412 122868009,122892383,2017-04-26 11:01:03,"i love libertarian right generals. good times lads.",,Anonymous,1493121293430.png,ZGA7Ttj5SLEm1OUz839hAw==,US,,1493204463 122868009,122892392,2017-04-26 11:01:07,">>122892275 Ending excuses for big government Much of the government spending to which libertarians strenuously object is made necessary by its taxing productivity instead of land values. The property tax falls mostly on improvements, so less housing is built, giving the government an excuse to build public housing. Profits are taxed, leading to less employment and giving government an excuse to spend money on economic stimulus projects. Family income is taxed to the point that they have difficulty buying a house or sending their children to college, so government institutes subsidized mortgages and student loans. Even the indirect effects are substantial. Land speculations gone sour chew up inner cities, so poor people turn to crime (if drug selling and prostitution be crimes) and the government gets an excuse to beef up the police state. Politically connected real estate interests see that they can buy up land in the boondocks for a pittance and then get other taxpayers to build them a superhighway, increasing the value of their holdings by orders of magnitude. With land value tax they would have ultimately paid for their own highway or more likely would not have had it built in the first place. Even welfare increases do not stay in the hands of welfare recipients, but are quickly greeted by higher rent demands from ghetto landlords. (The War on Poverty did little to end poverty, but it did a lot to enrich absentee owners of poor communities.) All goes back to the land, and the land owner is enabled to absorb to himself a share of almost every public and every private benefit, however important or however pitiful those benefits may be. --Winston Churchill",,Anonymous,quote-what-has-destroyed-every-previous-civilization-has-been-the-tendency-to-the-unequal-henry-george-10-84-31.jpg,WoEXU5gmRSuXhI0ycYzWSw==,US,,1493204467 122868009,122892509,2017-04-26 11:02:01,">>122891996 >>122891290 Ask yourself this - in a free market (one absolved from the welfare state) would 'bronys' exist? The answer of course, is no. That's probably the most degenerate example of a human being I can think of. One that leeches of the state to fulfill a twisted fantasy and having no market value in doing so. It doesn't take a complex mind to extrapolate and expand that argument to a higher level.",,Anonymous,why the left wants communism.png,QE+xiNHwk+AAsQqQX97Qnw==,GB,,1493204521 122868009,122892559,2017-04-26 11:02:22,">>122892392 Isn't there some other way? There are two models that tie land ownership with use. One is replacing all taxes on productivity, that is, on land use, with taxes on the value of land itself. The other is the Lockean pre-monetary system. It would have to rely on a judicial mechanism, whereby you assert your claim to land by demonstrating that you are using the land. While the latter method does not provide any community funds (a mixed blessing, perhaps), it does subject your landhold to the discretion of that judicial mechanism. It is far less intrusive into your business for the community to assess the market value of land than to assess the validity of what you are doing on that land. Can't we do this without the state? There are, in fact, proprietary communities operating on the single tax model. Arden, Delaware, with a population of 4900, has had no local taxes since 1900. The Arden Corporation collects a fair market rent on each land parcel, which is reappraised annually. (They actually collect only about a fourth of the rent to which they are entitled.) From that they not only pay for all the municipal services, but rebate all property taxes levied by the county and school district. There are excellent reasons for libertarians to prefer the land trust route over the political route. Private communities can be built on explicit contracts (leases) with the citizens, can have internal democratic processes that are vastly superior to electoral democracy, can be far more flexible and free of state intervention, and can be downright profitable (even with trust investors pocketing a mere fraction of the rent). Most of all, dealing with investors is far more pleasant and self-affirming than dealing with politicians.",,Anonymous,Henry-George-Progress-and-Poverty-191x300.jpg,h0UPHF2qj5EJhKvgXVvK6A==,US,,1493204542 122868009,122892661,2017-04-26 11:03:18,">>122892559 Geolibertarians We are libertarians who make the classical liberal distinction between land, labor and capital. We believe in the private possession of land without interference from the state, but in the community collection of land rent to prevent monopolization of land. We believe that all government activities should at least be limited to those which increase the value of land by more than what the government collects, and that government should be funded entirely from the land value increases it creates. We oppose direct state monopolization of land as well as state-sanctioned private monopolization of land, and advocate that state and federally held land pay land rent to the communities the same as private land. We advocate that government be allowed to spend only what is authorized by voter referendum or similar device and that it take for itself the minimum it is authorized to spend. Those who advocate collection of the full rent stipulate that the proceeds be divided among community members on a per-capita or similar basis, for the land, and the rent, belong to the people, not the state. We condemn the taxation of property improvements, and of all activities, productive, consumptive, or recreational, as invasions by the state into the private affairs of free individuals.",,Anonymous,too-damn-high.jpg,TI3nyofUPW4+byNvMNk/6A==,US,,1493204598 122868009,122892815,2017-04-26 11:04:40,">>122890636 If like AI, you are programmed to take conditions and apply actions to them, consistently the based on that programming do you really have choice? It seems to me your ""choices"" are pre-determined in your worldview.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493204680 122868009,122892886,2017-04-26 11:05:17,">>122891715 When I say hypersexuality, I am referring to the the cultural aspect which undeniably exists. While the white birth rate has drastically decreased, this does not mean that society isn't hypersexual. In fact, studies examining the number of partners women sleep with prior to marriage has drastically increased, so people can be more sexual and at the same time, produce less children. I feel the 'sexual revolution' and pornography have damaged the psyche of the masses, people are wired for instant gratification. It doesn't matter if birth rates are lower; it is obvious that sex is center stage and the be all and end all in life more than anything else. I want to live in an anarcho capitalist society with zero tolerance for market induced degeneracy such as prostitution, pornography and strip clubs. I do not see how such a society would ever exist though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493204717 122868009,122893071,2017-04-26 11:06:57,,,Anonymous,libertarian paradise.png,jmNVUvImjTXtNHA5p+WOPg==,BR,,1493204817 122868009,122893093,2017-04-26 11:07:12,">>122892815 Yup, I think if we understood the universe perfectly, we could move a molecule in the brain and predict the exact choice someone would make (assuming there's no randomness of course).",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493204832 122868009,122893227,2017-04-26 11:08:34,">>122892509 >>122891996 Precisely the kind of answer I was looking for, thank you for the replies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493204914 122868009,122893316,2017-04-26 11:09:26,,,Anonymous,2.jpg,YDS5DzaBhUHTrdicJ0RwwQ==,BR,,1493204966 122868009,122893380,2017-04-26 11:09:58,">>122892815 And yea I agree it's a not a ""free choice."" That's what I mean when I say free will doesn't exist. We have a will, it's just not free, it's bound by the laws of physics like everything else. Granted this could be wrong, I could easily be mistaken and there's an argument that makes sense out of free will that I don't understand or don't know about. This is just how I see things right now.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1493204998 122868009,122893540,2017-04-26 11:11:24,">>122892178 what's changed between now and then is that now we have a developed system for private collective ownership: the stock market what if we had a monarchy in which the king acted as a CEO liable to a board of directors who represented the stock owners of the state in this case it wouldn't be the gombunism tier ""everyone gets one vote, equal voice YAAY!"" BS, your voice in government would be proportional to how much of a stake you have in the nation",,Anonymous,263E2E5600000578-2975606-The_formula_written_on_Homer_s_blackboard_above_is_said_to_predi-a-14_1425299801754.jpg,E9aB+1wjDbrrtRBQnYMdIA==,US,,1493205084 122868009,122893768,2017-04-26 11:13:19,">>122892886 Well you're right about society being hyper sexual. Its just the wounds porn and feminism have inflicted. And those were pushed by the CIA and Womens Lib movement during the 70s... all funded by the CIA and Rockefellers. Really makes you think. I agree with what you're saying, but I think these are wounds that just have to naturally heal. Maybe you can start community Hitler tier book burnings of porn tapes and lewd books, something of the like. The Jew uses government and media to inflict his damage, and us trying to counteract that damage with more government or media makes us no better because, even if we are correct, violence is not the way to solve a problem. Its the parents duties. You see what I'm trying to get at? I think these are minor problems compared to the level of pedophilia and child sacrifice going on in the upper echelons of our current government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493205199 122868009,122894430,2017-04-26 11:19:14,All non-fascists of /pol/ should be gassed,,Anonymous,f5a.png,KhB68No+yJ/xvTRciUEumg==,CH,,1493205554 122868009,122894499,2017-04-26 11:19:53,>>122894430,,Anonymous,1490740270087.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,BR,,1493205593 122868009,122894674,2017-04-26 11:21:30,*Blocks your path*,,Anonymous,>Tfw no latina qt3.14 to molest me everynight and have my babies.jpg,Z219/aRoqlXoIoRsshgH7Q==,US,,1493205690 122868009,122894700,2017-04-26 11:21:44,">>122894430 >another holocaust that you'll promise but never deliver on",,Anonymous,1492447631339.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,GB,,1493205704 122868009,122894729,2017-04-26 11:21:57,">>122889908 >I want to preserve liberty >I want to live in multiculturalism Recognize that these are two different proposition and then get fucked. >>122868009 Now, new video. Heiner Rindermann - Cognitive and Cultural ""Enrichment"" of Europe by Immigration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6KChi90nHs",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493205717 122868009,122894952,2017-04-26 11:24:09,R8 or h8,,Anonymous,2017-04-26-111958_1366x768_scrot.png,mV6TQ8sC8EWRLUqxBtSIhg==,US,,1493205849 122868009,122895293,2017-04-26 11:27:19,">>122893093 >>122893380 Very interesting, I still see voluntarism as implying choice, and an element of randomness along side the determined. I guess or discussion ends here, thanks for chatting with me. Please if you have the time watch the natural law lecture. He makes the case for randomness and determinism coexisting in a very engaging way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493206039 122868009,122895763,2017-04-26 11:31:21,">>122870513 >direct democracy >libertarian",,Anonymous,1491525529140.png,pIgAdJvpGAMA/mdAZbYiDw==,US,,1493206281 122868009,122896126,2017-04-26 11:34:32,">>122894430 Nah, but please do gas cuckball.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493206472 122868009,122896158,2017-04-26 11:34:51,">>122895763 Yeah dude, we should just have a dictator instead, I'm sure that he'll be nice and let everybody else have guns and shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493206491 122868009,122896407,2017-04-26 11:36:46,">liberals >right wing really made me think",,Anonymous,68747470733a2f2f6a6f696e64696173706f72612e73332e616d617a6f6e6177732e636f6d2f75706c6f6164732f696d616765732f7363616c65645f66756c6c5f64326530346364373561336533613030613232322e6a7067.jpg,m24U0gTgRew2gSRg38+nRg==,NL,,1493206606 122868009,122896416,2017-04-26 11:36:52,">>122896126 I agree that three haired faggot ball has to go. Pircarda ancapball is the true ball mascot of /lrg/",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1493206612 122868009,122896427,2017-04-26 11:36:54,">>122870630 >There are pragmatic reasons to support free market, but the most compelling reasons are ethical. Friendly reminder that arguing from ethics is literally ""muh feels.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493206614 122868009,122896432,2017-04-26 11:36:58,">>122896158 you're dense as fuck",,Anonymous,1488567467333.jpg,FbBoLOT5ccIBsR5t/YvCZQ==,US,,1493206618 122868009,122896755,2017-04-26 11:39:59,">>122896432 If you're only response is ad hominem, then you already lost.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493206799 122868009,122896823,2017-04-26 11:40:41,">>122896407 The takeaway here is that ANY political or economic system goes to shit when you do not remove every Jew.",,Anonymous,jew_basic.jpg,lQj+uKhhZS6j+lzrGVUJ/A==,US,,1493206841 122868009,122897008,2017-04-26 11:42:22,">>122896755 I already explained in earlier posts why democracy falls into the tragedy of the commons and a sole proprietor to a country needs to give freedom to his subjects to appease his rational self interest in maximizing the value of his estate >>122889861",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493206942 122868009,122897028,2017-04-26 11:42:32,">>122896823 thats why libertarianism is a shit ideology since capitalism is the jewish religion",,Anonymous,quote-a-country-has-the-jews-it-deserves-just-as-mosquitoes-can-thrive-and-settle-only-in-swamps-corneliu-zelea-codreanu-220266.jpg,fLs/0G7TGMF/9A2Wzbq16A==,NL,,1493206952 122868009,122897062,2017-04-26 11:42:48,">>122896427 Are there any argument that actually escapes an appeal to ethic? To say ""we should to X because it leads to Y which is desirable"" is to make an ethical judgement that Y is desirable. Are there arguments about what should be done that do not have this form? We may say ""X is a good in and of itself"" but that is, in a disguised form, the same argument. Furthermore, there is an view under which libertarianism is not an argument from ethic but an argument from fact. Namely, the argument runs that all people are the legitimate owner of their own body. This is not an argument from what ought to be, but an argument from what is. The anti libertarian position would then be this. That in spite of the fact that people own themselves, they should never the less not be in a position to act as if they did in fact own themselves.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493206968 122868009,122897076,2017-04-26 11:42:54,">>122896407 This already exists.",,Anonymous,file.png,iwQndze/F+hpwrMxDC8iYw==,GB,,1493206974 122868009,122897267,2017-04-26 11:44:28,">>122896407 The child (and parents, and society as a whole) would also be better off in such a state. Heard of adoption?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493207068 122868009,122897398,2017-04-26 11:45:45,">>122896407 I honestly don't really see anything wrong with ""selling"" children as long as basic rules against child abuse are still in effect. The woman in the image very clearly doesn't have the capability to care for the kids, so allowing the children to be given to somebody else seems like the most ethical outcome. >>122897008 You're still ignoring the real issue. Yes, you explained the flaws of democracy, but at the same time you've failed to over up a superior alternative. As Churchill said himself, democracy is a terrible system of government, but all the other options are worse.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493207145 122868009,122897670,2017-04-26 11:48:11,">>122897028 The JQ you fawn over is already answerd; they wouldn't thrive in a Libertarian society as there would be no state or government financed media to spread their ideas and doctrines.",,Anonymous,1491847201893.png,Pf1BbhBkujFFxRuqC0CxiA==,GB,,1493207291 122868009,122897675,2017-04-26 11:48:12,">>122897398 The retards who use that picture confuse purchasing the right to raise a child with purchasing a child.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493207292 122868009,122897691,2017-04-26 11:48:18,">>122896427 >Being a moral relativist Enjoy the emptiness it brings to you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493207298 122868009,122897773,2017-04-26 11:49:04,">>122897028 What you are taught as ""capitalism"" results in inequality and inefficiency because it lacks a theory to manage common resources. It doesn't even recognize that there is such a thing as common resources. Georgism corrects this flaw by not only recognizing common resources like land, minerals, water, fish stocks as such, but adds that by managing these resources with user fees, you can get rid of all other taxation and remove impediments to economic development. So under Georgism, regular folk are mostly taxed in proportion to the value of any land they may possess. The vast majority of people would pay a lot less than they currently pay in income, payroll and consumption taxes, but absentee landlords would pay a lot more, and the mortgage business of banks would be an order of magnitude smaller, because land taxes cancel the benefits of homeownership as an investment. The system also discourages the inefficient use of land, controlling sprawl and inefficient farming practices. Housing and transportation costs would be greatly reduced, thus allowing for a greater equality of opportunity. A Universal basic income (UBI) could provide for those unable to work.",,Anonymous,60614.jpg,yvICFrUjjQmgiPzah7YUKQ==,US,,1493207344 122868009,122897917,2017-04-26 11:50:22,">>122897028 >>122896823 >>122894430 >>122896407 t. wehraboos",,Anonymous,Wehrboos.png,EhMKNZZVIRVi6d4jPL8stg==,US,,1493207422 122868009,122898087,2017-04-26 11:51:38,">>122897670 FOX, CNN, and MSNBC aren't government-owned. The rest of the world isn't like Britain where you just have the BBC and you get arrested for not having a TV license.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493207498 122868009,122898125,2017-04-26 11:51:58,">>122897398 if the difference between 3%-8% and 20%-80% means nothing to you then I can't fit in a 4chan post why democracy is a step backwards from monarchy Read Hoppe's Democracy: the god that failed if you really want the intellectual high-ground, read and dispute it's arguments",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493207518 122868009,122898213,2017-04-26 11:52:34,">>122896407 delet this and then read the book while you´re at it. It´s a distorted quote taken out of context.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493207554 122868009,122898338,2017-04-26 11:53:21,">>122897773 ""Who receive from society"" What a disgusting use of words.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493207601 122868009,122898340,2017-04-26 11:53:24,">>122898087 You think American news channels aren't bought by the state? You think they have journalistic integrity?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493207604 122868009,122898385,2017-04-26 11:53:52,">>122898087 >FOX, CNN, and MSNBC aren't government-owned While that is true, it's also true that they take kickbacks from political heads. They are undoubtedly tied up with the gov't and the deep state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493207632 122868009,122898429,2017-04-26 11:54:16,">>122897917 >found the kike sup schlomo?",,Anonymous,1483461986370.jpg,PM4xaMyfmtxnPdq2E0pK4g==,US,,1493207656 122868009,122898444,2017-04-26 11:54:24,">>122898338 Place one hundred men on an island from which there is no escape, and whether you make one of these men the absolute owner of the other ninety-nine, or the absolute owner of the soil of the island, will make no difference either to him or to them. It was not nobility that gave land, but the possession of land that gave nobility. . . . you must be a monarchist? Are you not for liberty? I thought this was a libertarian thread?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493207664 122868009,122898468,2017-04-26 11:54:34,">>122897267 >>122897398 >a society where children can be bought and sold is good no comment on this >>122897670 If the power is govermental or corporate doesnt matter, jewry will still exist unless you eradicate it >>122897917 tot lazy to type out your non argument? >>122898213 Why not tell me then?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493207674 122868009,122898512,2017-04-26 11:54:54,>>122894430,,Anonymous,Fuck socialists.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1493207694 122868009,122898647,2017-04-26 11:56:02,">>122898087 It goes further than funding (look at wikileaks on Clinton questoins pre-TV debate, for example). But even when it comes to funding you are wrong http://www.cpb.org/aboutcpb/financials/budget",,Anonymous,file.png,ed5ZNlv5/0q7IpCuZaMSuA==,GB,,1493207762 122868009,122898764,2017-04-26 11:56:58,">>122898125 Maybe I will someday, until then you can explain it as best as you can. >>122898340 >You think American news channels aren't bought by the state? They quite obviously aren't. If the government could control news outlets, Trump probably would have had CNN shut down by now. But he can't do that because news outlets in the US aren't state-owned. See how that works?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493207818 122868009,122898781,2017-04-26 11:57:07,">>122898429 >Everyone I don't like is a kike Heh that rhymes",,Anonymous,Germans are literally cancer.jpg,01xET8qXbSdy5lg7MB7WVQ==,US,,1493207827 122868009,122898950,2017-04-26 11:58:30,">>122898468 >>a society where children can be bought and sold is good >no comment on this So what is the alternative to a dying child? Either you a) support the parents financially But clearly they are unfit to support a child so that's a no-go, and that's a huge moral-hazard issue (they just have more) b) give them up for adoption Which you are against (I'm not sure why) c) some state-run sanctuary for them Which is effectively a market for children, and adoption anyway What would you do wise-one?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493207910 122868009,122899066,2017-04-26 11:59:27,">>122898087 What would the incentive to brainwash people be if this brainwashing didn't yield results? The state power is what attracts media influence, the fact that a media channel can influence people's minds towards a goal thanks to democracy is what corrupts the system and gives (((them))) an edge over the rest.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493207967 122868009,122899113,2017-04-26 11:59:53,">>122898764 They need to maintain the illusion that they aren't bought. It's called ""deception""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493207993 122868009,122899246,2017-04-26 12:00:53,">>122898444 Georgism wins digits confirm.. fuck off commies fuck off rentier capitalists... fuck off ""right"" wing libertarians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493208053 122868009,122899265,2017-04-26 12:01:02,">>122898468 >If the power is govermental or corporate doesnt matter Plainly wrong because under a Libertarian or Hoppean private property society all transactions are voluntary.",,Anonymous,1492886455413.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,GB,,1493208062 122868009,122899289,2017-04-26 12:01:13,">>122898468 If somebody simply can't afford to take care of his/her children, then it seems logical that there should be some mechanism where the children might be transferred to a more capable caretaker. Obviously, this would need to be regulated, but the concept doesn't seem bad in it of itself. Sort of like putting a child up for adoption, but instead you're directly transferring guardianship to another person.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493208073 122868009,122899410,2017-04-26 12:02:13,">>122898468 >a society where children can be bought and sold is good Currently an adoption costs around 20,000$ in the US, for all the things that you need to pay. That's without accounting for all the taxes necessary to keep the children fed and so on while parents are found. You think that's not society ""buying children""?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493208133 122868009,122899444,2017-04-26 12:02:30,">>122898781 Yup. I find it interesting that people still go out of their way to shit up places with opinions contrary to their own, as if by magic, they are going to changes minds with their shitposts. So yes, you are a kike.",,Anonymous,1483458793641.jpg,ZCVs/w9+BV0CLmzK6tQrFg==,US,,1493208150 122868009,122899533,2017-04-26 12:03:11,">>122899246 you post that many walls of text then you're bound to get digits eventually man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493208191 122868009,122899635,2017-04-26 12:04:03,">>122896407 Hmm I think children are by nature dependent on their birth parents so breaking that bond would be aggression. Substitute (adoptive) parents who step up in a crisis are bros for sure but ceteris paribus kids are best suited for life with their genetic forebears. You should expect this shit from a kike, he got it wrong b/c no soul. AnCap principles still consistent as fuck with Traditional (i.e., Catholic, of course) morality",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493208243 122868009,122899834,2017-04-26 12:05:39,">>122899444 No shit I'm not going to change your mind trough shitposting. I'm just trying to get on your nerves. It looks like it's working.",,Anonymous,Germans: the subhuman niggers of Europe.png,Os2CpUYUAbOtIePiRNJlsw==,US,,1493208339 122868009,122899840,2017-04-26 12:05:41,">>122899265 I am in total agreement with Hoppe that you can have a restrictive immigration policy while still actively trading with the rest of the world. I also agree with the concept that people should be free to associate, and disassociate, from others as desired. But completely eliminating government from society isn't realistic or practical.",,Anonymous,1493174552285.png,GlLzQT4r+XKyREzIDrkhTQ==,US,,1493208341 122868009,122899904,2017-04-26 12:06:17,">>122899533 no here even mention land or the land monopoly i feel the need to carrying the torch",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493208377 122868009,122900074,2017-04-26 12:07:40,">>122899840 I'm probably with you as a Minarchist but I like flirting with full ancaphoppemode",,Anonymous,1491850050790.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,GB,,1493208460 122868009,122900171,2017-04-26 12:08:23,">>122899444 If there is one thing that /pol/ has taught me, it is that Jews live rent free in the minds of their enemies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493208503 122868009,122900592,2017-04-26 12:11:48,">>122868009 /nsg/: reposted image macros /lrg/: OC textwalls >noggin >activated >almonds >joggin",,Anonymous,Regent-Bowerbird.jpg,KLE5TUQrYOPgQ1j1wYaEIw==,US,,1493208708 122868009,122901056,2017-04-26 12:15:30,">>122899840 True, but honestly, out of all the more impractical political theories, I'd say ancap is the most beneficial to society. It allows the individual to fully decide what they want to do with their lives, money and capital while only having the most basic restrictions in the form of the NAP and kill anyone that violates the NAP severely. I'm more of a minarchist, but I can see the appeal of ancap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493208930 122868009,122901270,2017-04-26 12:17:08,">>122899840 Also a shitty bait image.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493209028 122868009,122901279,2017-04-26 12:17:13,">>122898950 >>122899289 The line is thin but still there because of the government upholding certain laws. The less laws the more the selling of a child will happen unregulated. for example in a libertarian society an television add can be made for a child. What can and cannot be done with a child is also dictated by law and thus a government >>122899265 >all transactions are voluntary without a government a power vacuum will occur that WILL HAVE TO FILLED",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493209033 122868009,122901412,2017-04-26 12:18:16,">>122901056 I think this setup would most practically reconcile ancapism with minarchism in the long run and enforce sovereignty >>122893540",,Anonymous,1474848398978.png,0HXStDbe46XMnjcxc58Xyw==,US,,1493209096 122868009,122901438,2017-04-26 12:18:29,Someone explain the core of Libertarian Right to me.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493209109 122868009,122901533,2017-04-26 12:19:13,,,Anonymous,e8c4a80d1ee9d9fada758974e1f2226ba367a65430fce4d63b9d158de09905a5.png,O0rzeaxgbuG81XcMjdpJLA==,AU,,1493209153 122868009,122902291,2017-04-26 12:25:20,">>122901279 You still haven't answered as to how you would solve the issue. We already live in an extremely regulated society and selling children is the norm. The issue is with the parents and a state which takes their burdens will create a dependency in which they continue to have children that they cannot provide for. >>122881718 >>122901438",,Anonymous,file.png,lDUh/zaFAyONLO0IpOnSwg==,GB,,1493209520 122868009,122902302,2017-04-26 12:25:26,">>122901438 Social conservatism, anti-state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493209526 122868009,122902375,2017-04-26 12:26:03,">>122901533 >if there are pro-open borders libertarians then libertarianism is pro multiculturalism Rothbard,Rockwell and Hoppe cough cough",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493209563 122868009,122903004,2017-04-26 12:31:14,">>122901056 I think the problem is that people see AnCap as a set of values instead of a set of propositions. People think that AnCap makes the Individual a god and then just fights for its god with sophistry and casuistry like everyone else. But AnCap is not a real -ism. Like how logic is the right way to avoid contradiction in argumentation, AnCap is the right way to avoid conflict in human interaction. It's just there and you expect people to figure it out. You have to perceive it, not ""believe in it."" ""Practicality"" and ""implementation"" are problems for -isms. They're all idolatries of one sort or another and they always have to borrow bits of AnCap/Natural Law in order to ""work"" (temporarily).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493209874 122868009,122903356,2017-04-26 12:34:21,">>122902291 >We already live in an extremely regulated society adoptions are not completely regulated at all, so they need to be more regulated. Creating a better society will automatically reduce the amount of parents in need to put their child up for adoption >will create a dependency in which they continue to have children that they cannot provide for instead making it a profitable business enterprise, like what is happening in china",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493210061 122868009,122904666,2017-04-26 12:45:00,">>122879754 TrueDil is aussie, makes high quality videos, and has massive potential to be big. Would recommend.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493210700 122868009,122904914,2017-04-26 12:47:16,">>122903356 >adoptions are not completely regulated at all Farcical that you could ever think this. >Creating a better society will automatically reduce the amount of parents in need to put their child up for adoption Sounds wonderful but not an argument against adoption. >instead making it a profitable business enterprise Subject to the rules of demand and supply so it won't be 'profitable'. In any case, do you seriously think being pregnant for 9 months then looking after a child (until w/e age) is the best use of enterprise? No sane woman would be willing to undergo such a scenario, even from a profit perspective, let alone a moral one. >like what is happening in china [citations needed]",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493210836 122868009,122905907,2017-04-26 12:55:18,">>122903004 ""You believe in the scientific method? lmao what an ideologue. Science is subjective."" Good post. There's something strange about Capitalism and Voluntarism that doesn't contradict internally and aligns it self with reality near perfect, that no other system does. The same could be said about the scientific method. I'm not sure of a benign reason why people don't grasp Voluntarism.",,Anonymous,ethicsisarelationship.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,US,,1493211318 122868009,122906239,2017-04-26 12:58:10,">>122905907 >I'm not sure of a benign reason why people don't grasp Voluntarism. Because most people understand that you can't have a totally unregulated market just because ""lol its voluntary.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493211490 122868009,122906309,2017-04-26 12:58:39,">>122905907 Thanks dude. So fuckin tired of the strawmen. If you actually work through Hoppe's arguments you understand that conservatism and libertarianism are deeply consonant if not identical and tribe, family, and tradition will emerge from behavior in accordance with AnCap premises.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493211519 122868009,122906415,2017-04-26 12:59:33,">>122906239 That's not an entirely trivial case to make. The fact that the market can be seen as entirely voluntary is certainly something that, I would argue, is to be held in its favor.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493211573 122868009,122906604,2017-04-26 13:01:13,">>122906415 >It's okay for a 10 year old girl to sell herself into prostitution because lol its voluntary",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493211673 122868009,122907062,2017-04-26 13:05:38,">>122906604 >let's extend the notion of voluntarism to a person who has yet to reach the age of reason I don't know that there are libertarians who actually hold that actions performed by children should be held to be voluntary but I if so they're idiots. The proper view of children within voluntarism is that the parent holds the child in some sort of trusteeship, as it were, where his possession is held by the parent and to be restituted to him once adulthood is reached. If the only bad thing that can be said about libertarianism is that the framework of liberty cannot apply to children then it's perfectly fine. We don't seek to ""liberate"" children in this way.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493211938 122868009,122907372,2017-04-26 13:08:43,">>122907062 What is the ""age of reason""? 12, 15, 18? In real-life, the government draws that line. Without government, who determines the age of consent?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493212123 122868009,122908115,2017-04-26 13:15:09,">>122907372 That the line will be drawn somewhere is not in dispute. That this line may be drawn by parents, or be set by some other private law communities and be subject to change depending on the community, does not concern me much either. That is, of course, if we assume an ancap regime. Since I'm a minarchist and not some ancap, I still assume the existence of a government who may set the ""age of reason"" to be 18, and may thus prevent some transactions from happening before that age.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493212509 122868009,122908296,2017-04-26 13:16:52,">>122904914 >Farcical that you could ever think this independent adoptions are a thing, removing a form of authority that is the adoption agancy >not an argument against adoption i'm arguing against a child being an item in a free market that is to be freely bought and sold, not against adoption in itself >do you seriously think being pregnant for 9 months then looking after a child (until w/e age) is the best use of enterprise Imagine child trafficking that that already exists, but above ground >[citations needed] http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2012-07/07/c_131700671.htm",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493212612 122868009,122908340,2017-04-26 13:17:10,">>122906239 >totally unregulated market Where the fuck are you pulling this out of? Voluntary and regulated do not contradict. The rules that are mutually agreed upon between individuals are the regulations.",,Anonymous,don't bait me.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1493212630 122868009,122908603,2017-04-26 13:19:22,">>122908115 >That the line will be drawn somewhere is not in dispute Who makes the decision? And who enforces it? If I say that it is 15, and you say 18, and some other guy says 21, then how do we decide to is correct?",,Anonymous,FBI.jpg,oB0jFbnl7IeEUhjUaR2Tgg==,US,,1493212762 122868009,122909032,2017-04-26 13:23:00,">>122908603 The same way you resolve any conflict or disagreement, by arguing and negotiating. Or, in your case, threaten anyone who disagrees with you.",,Anonymous,be a dick.jpg,IKd2SuUzz5j6SaKSFmrS6w==,US,,1493212980 122868009,122909037,2017-04-26 13:23:03,">>122908603 >Who makes the decision? And who enforces it? If I say that it is 15, and you say 18, and some other guy says 21, then how do we decide to is correct? Under minarchism, the government. Under a private law regime, it will presumably be left to private law communities. Suppose a voluntary association of individuals agreeing to subscribe to some set of law only so long as they agree to behave in such and such way. One of the condition for this private law community could be that they do not have give themselves permission to sell alcohol to people under the age of 18. Doing so could lead, potentially, to the expulsion from this private law community -- meaning the loss of possible arbitration of disputes by a certain private tribunal -- as a result of which contracts for that person would become unenforceable. I'm not an ancap expert, however.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493212983 122868009,122909093,2017-04-26 13:23:30,">>122908603 so you are admitting it's subjective ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493213010 122868009,122909353,2017-04-26 13:25:42,What exactly do you hate so much about Gary Johnson other than him being a bumbling idiot.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493213142 122868009,122909758,2017-04-26 13:28:55,">>122909353 He misrepresents libertarianism, he perverts it into dudeweedism to get votes, which is also why democracy sucks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493213335 122868009,122910045,2017-04-26 13:31:21,">>122909758 You can excuse a person who has never been presented with Libertarian arguments, as he does not know better. Gary Johnson knows better, which is contemptible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493213481 122868009,122910226,2017-04-26 13:32:48,">>122883065 1 post by this id",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493213568 122868009,122910266,2017-04-26 13:33:10,">>122868009 >Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible. Is she our girl? >>122909093 Of course it is subjective. Nearly all laws are based on subjective values. But somebody still needs to make the final decision and enforce it.",,Anonymous,Judge-Janice-Rogers-Brown-e1383325714355.jpg,L62LA53X9MuwNW7BPT+dSQ==,US,,1493213590 122868009,122911009,2017-04-26 13:39:02,">>122908296 There already is a market for it and the state encourages it. >black market activity in China Yes, this will still occur even with the state (war on drugs etc). The reason it was so popular was because an Orwellian state dictated who could have children with the one child policy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493213942 122868009,122911820,2017-04-26 13:44:52,">>122911009 >the state encourages it the current state yes, the current western state is a disgrace >Yes, this will still occur even with the state and the state with good intentions is needed to combat it",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493214292 122868009,122912030,2017-04-26 13:46:08,">>122869613 >""free-market"" is actually an argument of morality to answer all or most economic issues and questions It isn't. Free markets work by their own merit and produce near-universally desirable material results for an economy. The moral argument is only an extension of that result and has no relevance in the foundation of free market theory. Creative strawman, though.",,Anonymous,IMG_5766.png,4+xxZyxGCsjkoJnpYtFZtw==,US,,1493214368 122868009,122913143,2017-04-26 13:53:45,">>122872451 >Focus on competition and choices not your silly idea of freedom Competition is only effective if both parties are passionately engaged in beating each other. Obviously, people are seldom passionate about projects which are assigned to them, in this case by Keynesian dumbasses. There is literally no better way to efficiently allocate the skills and intrinsic motivations of millions of people than by allowing each individual to guage and apply their own passions themselves. It's not a moral argument, it's a strategic fact.",,Anonymous,IMG_5748.png,C68/n3AuYCY8oYMYBKaYbQ==,US,,1493214825 122868009,122913471,2017-04-26 13:56:08,">>122873823 >hurr durr libertarianism is a moral argument >I don't FEEL like free markets work Neck yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493214968 122868009,122914411,2017-04-26 14:02:18,">>122913143 >>122912030 A new based one emerges",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493215338 122868009,122914462,2017-04-26 14:02:33,">>122913471 We should really put up some list describing the ways in which libertarianism does not favor degeneracy, because it doesn't fund it nor does it create a state that can make it mandatory. Rather, all people can decide to separate themselves from those people whose behavior they find distasteful. Furthermore, they do not have to tolerate a government telling them that they are forced to accept ""alternative lifestyles"".",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493215353 122868009,122914566,2017-04-26 14:03:12,">>122911820 I don't think any state outside of an Orwell book has the capacity to predict and monitor someone who is so mentally deranged that they would have a child simply for the purpose of selling it. A black market will always exist. Even the most ardent anti-gun nations have vast numbers of gun crime. If you want to kill someone with a gun, you'll damn sure find a way to do it. In the vast majority of cases an unwanted child is put up for adoption and this is a good thing for all parties involved, as you seem to have come around to. I do agree that child trafficking is fucked up and I can't see how a full ancap society could deal with it (outside of the private cities argument, in which it would be abolished). A minarchist society would regulated it as you see fit. Again, the market would go to a state of equilibrium in which it would not be profitable to have children solely for the purpose of selling them. The reason that might be the case now is because there is excess demand.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493215392 122868009,122915668,2017-04-26 14:11:02,">>122914462 I honestly was thinking about making an interactive website ""build your covenant"", which, among other things, would address degenerate behavior. Too much work though, maybe one day.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493215862 122868009,122915934,2017-04-26 14:13:04,"Really good article on children and Libertarianism (we have a lot to answer for). https://edphilosopher.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/murray-rothbard-libertarianism-and-why-children-are-not-simply-houseguests/ >>122915668 Go on...in what way? Like the Jordan Peterson sort yourself out stuff?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493215984 122868009,122916215,2017-04-26 14:15:00,">>122915934 Interesting conclusion.",,Anonymous,file.png,04L/Q/ix3ZVNiDgwnGAuRw==,GB,,1493216100 122868009,122917577,2017-04-26 14:25:42,">>122915668 It'd be amazing to have a website teaching praxeological concepts.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493216742 122868009,122917810,2017-04-26 14:27:21,"Rate my propaganda, also reminder that killing commies doesn't violate the NAP, it defends it.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1493216841 122868009,122918282,2017-04-26 14:30:40,">>122917577 Excellent bait",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493217040 122868009,122918600,2017-04-26 14:32:53,">>122918282 Yeah I know the Mises website but I mean a better website with a lot of user input interaction.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493217173 122868009,122918762,2017-04-26 14:33:57,">>122914566 everyone that participates in child trafficking should be quartered in the public square. Rather rule by fear than make assumptions based on supply vs demand charts",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493217237 122868009,122918978,2017-04-26 14:35:31,">>122917810 3/10, too complicated I'd keep the quote but follow with WITHOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY THE VIOLENT CAN JUST TAKE WHAT OTHERS WORKED FOR SO MUCH FOR ENDING EXPLOITATION",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493217331 122868009,122919233,2017-04-26 14:37:28,">>122918600 I'd hang out there Hell, if we study harder we can just make /lrg/ that W00t for decentralization",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493217448 122868009,122919558,2017-04-26 14:39:59,"I really need to redesign and improve the website desu. Just don't have the time (or skills) atm. Any other ideas people have?",,Anonymous,1492369188411.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,GB,,1493217599 122868009,122919729,2017-04-26 14:41:18,">>122915934 Like, it would begin with an introduction to Hoppean libertarianism, videos and such, and then it would take you to an interactive area to take decision based on some questions to build your own covenant step by step, explaining the logical conclusion of your decisions. Something similar to http://sonsofgallipoli.com/",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493217678 122868009,122919819,2017-04-26 14:42:03,">>122919233 Maybe I should try my hand at an interactive reader interface. Basically, you read and questions pop up as you read the text. You might be asked to highlight certain thing. Something along those line to keep your mind active as you are reading. It'd be interesting to have reading groups. Basically, groups sharing information as they read.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493217723 122868009,122919844,2017-04-26 14:42:16,">>122918978 It's meant to be definitive, so it needs to be a bit wordy >>122919558 I'd love to help, hell I wanted to donate, but I don't have Bitcoin.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493217736 122868009,122920441,2017-04-26 14:46:48,">>122919729 Interesting, sounds cool. I remember someone posting something not dissimilar here (it was a moral conundrum in which you clicked on what you thought was the right answer). >>122919844 Think I'll make it my project once all my other work is out the way",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493218008 122868009,122921024,2017-04-26 14:51:24,Do not fuk w/ snek,,Anonymous,i-swear-to-god-ill-kill-us-all-if-you-4254413.png,OJj+KbCi8wOXXk0baIU5Qg==,US,,1493218284 122868009,122922609,2017-04-26 15:04:23,"What's up guys! After finishing a few more books I got a new batch of red-pilled literature to have. What do you think of it?",,Anonymous,list.png,kORzd00rDBE65ZiVv2K5RQ==,PT,,1493219063 122868009,122922913,2017-04-26 15:06:41,">>122922609 Lemme know you like reactionary liberty, it's been on my radar but I'm reading something else right now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493219201 122868009,122923159,2017-04-26 15:08:31,">>122921024 You can't ____ the snek. You can't wreck the snek? Help me out here.",,Anonymous,HoppeFlag_0.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1493219311 122868009,122923459,2017-04-26 15:10:47,">>122922913 I've been diagonally reading the PDF you guys posted here and it seems like an amazing book, at least until Chapter 4, which is where I stopped. The absolute mad man uses Hoppe, Cantwell, Mises, Rothbard, Kinsella, etc. as sources and doesn't hold any punches against egalitarianism, feminism, cultural Marxism, etc. (there's even one point where he's quoting an author which says ""[something something] psycho-analysis (itself another Jewish invention)...."". The guy literally named the Jew. >>122923159 Can't threat the snek",,Anonymous,a2rDwRZ_700b.jpg,5SMTYpzuBzce3+VrHSlDUw==,PT,,1493219447 122868009,122923514,2017-04-26 15:11:12,">>122923159 Can't kek the snek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493219472 122868009,122924215,2017-04-26 15:16:20,">>122923459 Kek, nice. I will def check it out then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493219780 122868009,122924349,2017-04-26 15:17:10,">>122897917 >>122898781 >>122899834 excuse me, but when you constantly throw antisemitism, Nazism and Germanism into the same bucket you just make more Germans defend Nazism also notice how none of the posters you replied to are German, nor mentioned anything about Germany or Germans, yet all you do is post anti-German posts into a thread that has nothing to do with Germany also you replied those things to people who disagree with the word Hans-Hermann Hoppe, a German, who called Murray Rothbard and Ludwig von Mises, both Jews, the greatest economists of all time especially the third point shows how stupid you are",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493219830 122868009,122924700,2017-04-26 15:19:48,">>122868009 >>122868009 fucking white male here. helicopters are desperately needed. >tfw we could crowdfund the wall in a week >tfw we could crowdfund ships to ship the kangz to their kingdom in another week >tfw still inundated with slimes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493219988 122868009,122924969,2017-04-26 15:21:46,"I'm sold on most of the Libertarian philosophies like natural/God given rights, personal property, free markets, and so on. But I still can't jump on to the anarcho-capitalist train because I don't buy the idea of the non-existence of government. I just don't see it... I've discussed this loosely with some of my normie friends and they obviously lash back at the idea... I'm open to it but can't square it from a practical point of view nor partly from a moral. I've read most of Hoppe and Rothbard and don't buy in to it fully. What's the next step?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493220106 122868009,122925169,2017-04-26 15:23:18,">>122898781 >everyone who is antisemitic is German or a Germanophile tell me again, faggot, why should anyone take you seriously? or is your goal just to destroy the good relationships between Germans and Jews that are being destroyed by low-IQ obsessed Germanophobes like you?",,Anonymous,6c6573a67c7deaf79442ace64dc34ff8.jpg,lHNKaB9i3JrmzW/D15Cq6g==,DE,,1493220198 122868009,122925261,2017-04-26 15:24:03,">>122872342 Physical removal has nothing to do with race. We only want to get rid of the commies before they kill us all.",,Anonymous,snek.jpg,8Rvao7XmMHk2tQzA8XzdOg==,US,,1493220243 122868009,122925283,2017-04-26 15:24:09,">>122881881 who represent the upper right symbol?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1493220249 122868009,122925553,2017-04-26 15:25:57,">>122925283 Christ-Chan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493220357 122868009,122925749,2017-04-26 15:27:13,">>122924700 We need that wall now, Mexicans are incapable of respecting non aggression.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493220433 122868009,122925812,2017-04-26 15:27:44,">>122925553 thanks!",,Anonymous,white power ok.jpg,Rb8kW0hF2fld6o7iXeAbgQ==,IT,,1493220464 122868009,122926104,2017-04-26 15:29:50,">>122925261 That's not a settled matter. https://mason.gmu.edu/~gjonesb/IITE.pdf",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493220590 122868009,122926547,2017-04-26 15:32:56,">>122897398 Elected oligarchy my dear. Democratic, Constitutioal Republic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493220776 122868009,122926694,2017-04-26 15:34:10,">>122897917 >>122898781 >>122899834 a last one from me just so you know: Germans who see that over 70 of bowing down and taking every shit thrown to them because ""if you don't accept this we will call you Nazi"" or ""because of the Nazi history we have to"" didn't change anything and still has pieces of shit like you call us Nazis and hating everything German and denying the countless contributions made by Germans that changed the world for a better did nothing they just stop being apologetic and change their view on history because they see it doesn't work sorry to the other who came here here to talk about libertarianism but if you look at the posts in this thread you'll see which asshole had to bring Germans up for no reason whatsoever",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493220850 122868009,122926736,2017-04-26 15:34:26,">>122897773 Wrong",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493220866 122868009,122926803,2017-04-26 15:34:57,">>122926104 Looks like an interesting paper, I'll read it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493220897 122868009,122927144,2017-04-26 15:37:22,">>122926803 Very interesting discussion about the Lynn IQ compilation. Obvious connection to the Hoppean concept of civilizational process as a function of time preference.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493221042 122868009,122927436,2017-04-26 15:39:28,">>122885298 Where is this image from",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493221168 122868009,122927590,2017-04-26 15:40:32,">>122927144 Lynn has also been to several of Hoppe's PFS meetings and did some interesting speeches there.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493221232 122868009,122929355,2017-04-26 15:52:54,,,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1493221974 122868009,122929902,2017-04-26 15:56:57,">>122929355 ""Indeed, as capitalism has immensely lightened the burden of housework through improved technology, many wives have increasingly constituted a kept leisure class. In the middle-class neighborhood in which I live, I see them, these “oppressed” and hard-faced viragoes, strutting down the street in their mink stoles to the next bridge or mah-jongg game, while their husbands are working themselves into an early coronary down in the garment district to support their helpmeets. In these cases, then, who are the “niggers”: the wives or the husbands? The women’s libs claim that men are the masters because they are doing most of the world’s work. But, if we look back at the society of the slave South, who indeed did the work? It is always the slaves who do the work, while the masters live in relative idleness off the fruits of their labor. To the extent that husbands work and support the family, while wives enjoy a kept status, who then are the masters?"" p.164 of Egalitarianism. What an absolute mad man.",,Anonymous,rothbard pepe.png,94+p+lp9r6D75wsCfwqEfw==,PT,,1493222217 122868009,122930240,2017-04-26 15:59:10,">>122868009 Sure goy",,Anonymous,1492700587083.png,qt085qD7QibnvxG78iOXkg==,UY,,1493222350 122868009,122930311,2017-04-26 15:59:38,I don't think Hoppe would advocate seeking out commies to throw out of helicopters. He advocates more for an exclusion/ostracism of commies from society,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493222378 122868009,122930538,2017-04-26 16:01:09,">>122929355 Kek",,Anonymous,nice.jpg,RgiM9xe+IZeOZStIi0Yt6A==,GB,,1493222469 122868009,122930677,2017-04-26 16:02:12,">>122930311 He wouldn't advocate killing commies openly, that is. >>122930240 Yes we're the goys, kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493222532 122868009,122930997,2017-04-26 16:04:25,">>122930240 watch out, that one guy in the US will come and call you a Nazi Kraut lover and post some shitty meme about how Germans are the worst people who ever existed since obviously all people who oppose Jews are automatically Germanophiles and being Germanophile obvioulsy means being a Nazi since we can totally only focus on 13 years out of over 1000 thousands",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493222665 122868009,122931318,2017-04-26 16:06:33,">>122930677 Don't tread on (((me)))",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1493222793 122868009,122931732,2017-04-26 16:09:40,">>122931318 Maybe I will tread on (((you)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493222980 122868009,122931893,2017-04-26 16:10:54,">libertarians discussing authoritarian ideology ""idiots want to lick the boots of the government that points a gun at their head and makes you a literal slave and knock down your door and bends you over and sodomizes you whilst you like their boots"" >libertarians discussing libertarianism ""and yes than everybody would form perfect high trust societies and all degeneracy would disappear due to market workings and eternal world peace would happen and men will live eternally"" atleast try to maintain some form of realism guys. every argument assumes some ideal world when an (pseudo) anarchistic society is inherently unpredictable",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493223054 122868009,122931969,2017-04-26 16:11:27,Libertarian muslim,,Anonymous,muslim libertarian supports non aggression principle beats wife within inches of death.png,ZIUhNY2lt5niAgzn00BSKA==,US,,1493223087 122868009,122932063,2017-04-26 16:12:10,template,,Anonymous,Muslim Libertarian template copy.png,kXNLgOtWIYUyOL7U5dbOAA==,US,,1493223130 122868009,122932234,2017-04-26 16:13:26,">>122931969 well there's a reason we have never heard of one",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493223206 122868009,122932550,2017-04-26 16:15:52,">>122931893 I know r/altright got shutdown and you're mad, but why shit up our thread with your bait?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493223352 122868009,122932791,2017-04-26 16:17:37,">>122932550 oh its not bait, your assumption of structure in a lawless society is just laughable",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493223457 122868009,122933312,2017-04-26 16:21:27,">>122932791 Private law is not lawlessness, and your post IS bait.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493223687 122868009,122934763,2017-04-26 16:32:19,,,Anonymous,image_0.jpg,1s3FPAifERSdVjv6vJXCLA==,US,,1493224339 122868009,122934815,2017-04-26 16:32:46,">>122932234 Are there any? And blacks - Sowell?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493224366 123021234,123021234,2017-04-27 06:17:56,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - CAN'T KEK THE SNEK EDITION,Anonymous,Veteran.png,qOMwNUw+PBhJvlZvg5vbsw==,US,,1493273876 123021234,123021358,2017-04-27 06:19:34,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1493273974 123021234,123021402,2017-04-27 06:20:06,,,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(3).png,8NmmFqEDnFZ5ThLIrXXYUQ==,US,,1493274006 123021234,123021424,2017-04-27 06:20:27,,,Anonymous,Rothbard3.png,Ao8wXVVOFjOX7bswWhQDBA==,US,,1493274027 123021234,123021449,2017-04-27 06:20:50,,,Anonymous,Mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,US,,1493274050 123021234,123021775,2017-04-27 06:25:15,bump,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493274315 123021234,123021923,2017-04-27 06:27:02,,,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1493274422 123021234,123022406,2017-04-27 06:33:44,,,Anonymous,snek (2).png,ZJUzc6WPaHObMTxjZmkz+Q==,US,,1493274824 123021234,123022475,2017-04-27 06:34:43,,,Anonymous,snek (10).png,aXlAl2u5gEzAo6UIS0BxZg==,US,,1493274883 123021234,123022570,2017-04-27 06:36:16,"https://youtu.be/9kaz8A1mTFM What does /lrg/ think about ""Reactionary Liberty: the Libertarian Counter-Revolution""",,Anonymous,Miia.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,PT,,1493274976 123021234,123022775,2017-04-27 06:39:27,">>123022570 Haven't read it yet, but I hear he cites Hoppe and Cantwell alot. it sounds pretty good, Probably gonna be my next read.",,Anonymous,snek (17).png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,US,,1493275167 123021234,123023106,2017-04-27 06:44:14,"True libertarianism is a white mens way. Not some retarded national SOCIALISM or class SOCIALIMS or any other bs. Socialism =/= freedom. White people are not ment to be slaves.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1493275454 123021234,123023178,2017-04-27 06:45:13,"Remove the Marxians, Economic Ideology war now! >>123022570 Basically what >>123022775 said; it looks really good, haven't bought that it yet, but I'll end up reading it sooner, or later.",,Anonymous,IMG_4625.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,AU,,1493275513 123021234,123023255,2017-04-27 06:46:14,">>123023178 >that Fucking autocorrect putting in random words",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493275574 123021234,123023267,2017-04-27 06:46:26,">>123023106 All men already have equal natural property rights, any attempt to further ""equalize"" mankind is to impose slavery.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493275586 123021234,123023332,2017-04-27 06:47:21,"Cool thread, taxation is theft",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493275641 123021234,123023447,2017-04-27 06:49:08,"Does anyone know why the catalog is so shitty today? Literally every thread but /ptg/, /sg/ and this thread are slide threads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493275748 123021234,123023568,2017-04-27 06:50:52,">>123023447 Shills gonna shill.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493275852 123021234,123023629,2017-04-27 06:51:38,">>123021234 >shitty p08 in anemic 9mm >not glorious American GI 1911 in .45ACP (Automatic Commie Perforator) You had one fucking job OP",,Anonymous,yotsuba mad cup.png,Xw7RK8Oetk8tmNuv/D1Lgg==,US,,1493275898 123021234,123023701,2017-04-27 06:52:45,">>123023629 shit man I only stole the image.",,Anonymous,efa372d1c26d2359176a07034294654d0f1d54ef8aef2ee567a6b82053a1c962.png,VIoxRrdj/QDu/Xzks6O58Q==,US,,1493275965 123021234,123023710,2017-04-27 06:52:53,">>123022570 It's a good book bro, I've been reading it.",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1493275973 123021234,123024952,2017-04-27 07:10:49,Bump,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag_1.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1493277049 123021234,123025743,2017-04-27 07:21:24,,,Anonymous,leftiesconfusingnames.png,Ba+bJ9CDeHaw95YWJzuYpw==,US,,1493277684 123021234,123026000,2017-04-27 07:24:50,">>123021234 heya m8",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493277890 123021234,123026374,2017-04-27 07:30:04,">>123026000 What's up",,Anonymous,image.jpg,kl0D0vuMXjldJnCFcgocOA==,US,,1493278204 123021234,123026494,2017-04-27 07:31:28,">>123026374 based De Lesquen",,Anonymous,henry de lesquen.png,7G+78+29AHkGcEqWMxAfzA==,PT,,1493278288 123021234,123027110,2017-04-27 07:40:10,">>123026374 >>123026494 well in two weeks I have to choose between a centrist EU slave and a nationalist who's economically illiterate yay",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493278810 123021234,123028040,2017-04-27 07:53:34,">>123027110 Well shit, who's it gonna be then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493279614 123021234,123028741,2017-04-27 08:03:11,">>123028040 well,like in 2002 we will have the ""republican front"" IE every voter whoever he comes whether he is from far left or conservative will vote for the candidate who's not from the national front so they could ""block fascism out of France"",which means that the current centrist candidate Macron will get dictator-tier votes (80%-20%) unless those who voted Fillion (the conservative) and Mélanchon (far left) decide to fuck over Macron but it would include that french voters aren't inconsistent which is the case I am more tempted to vote le Pen because Macron is just Hollande but younger and more subversive,but she is so retarded that on the long term we risk having a far leftist winner on the next election though choice (because they're both shit) but I want muzzies to chimpout for lulz",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493280191 123021234,123028892,2017-04-27 08:05:22,Not a libertarian but I hope you're all doing well today.,,Anonymous,1492942642710.jpg,RABVdkVx6E+7URTHCeiJfA==,US,,1493280322 123021234,123028989,2017-04-27 08:06:54,">>123028892 don't long knives us plz",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493280414 123021234,123029218,2017-04-27 08:09:48,">>123028989 dw thats only for the homos and weed smokers",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493280588 123021234,123029379,2017-04-27 08:12:04,">>123028741 That is pretty fucked, so there's no effective resistance against leftist cuckery.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493280724 123021234,123030300,2017-04-27 08:22:12,">>123029379 since may 68 it's impossible to dissociate French intelligentsia and cultural Marxism 57% of our GDP is socialized but people believe we're in austerity we have anti-racist legislature but people believe we have free speech we have high taxes,overgrowing deficit but people still believe that a Keynesian recovery can work people confound corporatism/cronyism with free market,some even thinks in my inner circle that I should vote Macron even though I explained to them that he is a hack this country needs a huge purge like ever seen before or we're fucked",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493281332 123021234,123030408,2017-04-27 08:23:34,,,Anonymous,thats a great smash.jpg,BYzfAIhVqAtRrHwTXuS6vA==,AU,,1493281414 123021234,123030642,2017-04-27 08:26:19,">>123030300 Fuck, God bless your soul. Is there any hope for these Marxists, or will they worship slavery until their death?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493281579 123021234,123030745,2017-04-27 08:27:30,,,Anonymous,560.jpg,7F0qd2XKWqWf2fS5OJlLMw==,SE,,1493281650 123021234,123030904,2017-04-27 08:29:35,">>123030300 France is eternally fucked",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493281775 123021234,123031094,2017-04-27 08:31:44,">>123030642 I think you already know the answer",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493281904 123021234,123031366,2017-04-27 08:35:09,">>123031094 Well if the Purge doesn't come, get outta there before they build a wall to keep you in the Soviet European Union.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493282109 123021234,123031412,2017-04-27 08:35:40,">still over 4 months until the next PFS meeting they should do it twice a year tbqh",,Anonymous,lonely AnCap pepe.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,DE,,1493282140 123021234,123031721,2017-04-27 08:38:59,">>123031366 the Socialist Eurabian Union kaffir",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493282339 123021234,123032902,2017-04-27 08:51:17,">>123030408 kek at the image >""Hey Hans you gotta read this book!""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493283077 123021234,123032978,2017-04-27 08:52:16,">>123031412 Hoppe will have attend a libertarian conference in Malta sometime later this year, I think it's before September.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493283136 123021234,123033464,2017-04-27 08:58:22,Anyone currently studying Marxism/leftism? May as well become familiar with this stuff with all these university students in my city,,Anonymous,a priori private safety squads.jpg,kF5axxKhODQ6OTDRUdcH4A==,AU,,1493283502 123021234,123033750,2017-04-27 09:01:46,">>123033464 I study A Marxist I know personally.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493283706 123021234,123033791,2017-04-27 09:02:14,">>123031412 >>123032978 Yep, July's 28th to be precise. faceberg: events/164652697367784/",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493283734 123021234,123033811,2017-04-27 09:02:35,">>123033464 >not real communism >state capitalism >didn't you heard about the the profit rate loss tendency ? >muh equality >muh Adam Smith said that labor theory of value can work !! just annoying now",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493283755 123021234,123033988,2017-04-27 09:04:46,,,Anonymous,2.jpg,YDS5DzaBhUHTrdicJ0RwwQ==,BR,,1493283886 123021234,123034267,2017-04-27 09:08:03,"let's do this faggots! WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT THE UNIRONIC NAZI EDGELORDS? http://www.strawpoll.me/12730090",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1493284083 123021234,123034624,2017-04-27 09:12:21,">>123034267 I think a lot of them have the same end-goal but their methods are fucked. They also don't care for economics.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493284341 123021234,123034764,2017-04-27 09:13:51,">>123033791 nice, hopefully they upload them onto youtube",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493284431 123021234,123034802,2017-04-27 09:14:15,">>123034624 Neetsocs are economically retarded",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493284455 123021234,123035010,2017-04-27 09:16:26,">>123034624 It's not only their methods. A libertarian's experience under a national-socialist government would be exactly the same as under a full-blown communist one. They both force you to do shit for the state, steal your hard earned money and take your civil liberties, while claiming moral superiority, ruining economy in the process.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1493284586 123021234,123035063,2017-04-27 09:17:01,">>123034267 I've change my mind on Nazis, they should be used as Cannon fodder against the left. Then they must accept self ownership or be given helicopter rides. Also I declare Augusto Pinochet an honorary anarchist, for his work against the left.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493284621 123021234,123036403,2017-04-27 09:32:22,Reminder that apriorism is bullshit (it's only a special case of empiricism) and so is reducing morality to intersubjectively verifiable property,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1493285542 123021234,123036613,2017-04-27 09:34:37,">>123021358 Boko no Resistance Boko no Freedom Boko no Anticom",,Anonymous,D3VNT aka Razgriz ANTICOM2.png,QOtzlKaQ9RG0zt5hWJliWg==,US,,1493285677 123021234,123036648,2017-04-27 09:35:02,,,Anonymous,The_Humane_thing_to_do.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1493285702 123021234,123036721,2017-04-27 09:35:47,">>123036613 Eew, that's gross you faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493285747 123021234,123037735,2017-04-27 09:47:00,">>123036613 Why are right-wing traps so much better than leftist """"""traps""""""",,Anonymous,1492279919353.jpg,+hGFstTCeqoxT2Z+lZ+3xw==,PT,,1493286420 123021234,123038700,2017-04-27 09:57:13,Bump,,Anonymous,image_0.jpg,1s3FPAifERSdVjv6vJXCLA==,US,,1493287033 123021234,123039699,2017-04-27 10:08:17,>>123038700,,Anonymous,1492365129299.jpg,8HrPFAGAiSxAYhjM1M6pmg==,GB,,1493287697 123021234,123040443,2017-04-27 10:16:23,">>123023710 Yep, very good book.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493288183 123021234,123041361,2017-04-27 10:26:22,">>123023710 >>123037735 >>123036613 Trapfaggotry and weebfaggotry get out",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493288782 123021234,123043127,2017-04-27 10:44:49,>captcha: road,,Anonymous,1492365145463.jpg,FOoro3CmmpOWf2bmrqmSpg==,GB,,1493289889 123021234,123043862,2017-04-27 10:52:45,">>123023701 this snake tho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493290365 123021234,123044372,2017-04-27 10:57:56,">Free To Choose – Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_–_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty – Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek’s%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf These are 404'ing for me. Anyone else? Haven't checked most of the others but there's probably a few more dead links in there as well. Anyone got alternative sauces?",,Anonymous,1491727174396.jpg,7v7Aftvn3rIHD7d9LjLWgQ==,GB,,1493290676 123021234,123046094,2017-04-27 11:15:12,,,Anonymous,12z0vRKXzfhJ5HsfwQ-11bgzZvfGw8u0p5X9Mh7ZuGc.jpg,uvO0Opy7FBn/GM69GQvZGQ==,US,,1493291712 123021234,123046244,2017-04-27 11:16:35,,,Anonymous,1457485847848.jpg,5+8NW2nLf9t0d3ItEWLUpQ==,BR,,1493291795 123021234,123046583,2017-04-27 11:19:58,">>123044372 I'll find new links if I can and update the paste.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493291998 123021234,123047564,2017-04-27 11:29:49,">>123033464 Philosophically Marx pretty much entirely bases his thought in Hegalism. So you should probably read Hegel. Hegel of course, effectively thought that the government and bureaucracy could transcend into God on Earth...yeah Rothbard on Hegel: >https://mises.org/library/hegel-state-gods-will",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493292589 123021234,123048686,2017-04-27 11:40:43,">>123021234 >subscribing to a Jewish ideology that promotes usury and exploitation >believing in the Shylock view of money >not following Catholic social teaching",,Anonymous,3e2.jpg,gX2DlqgPZr6V8ilIersKAw==,US,,1493293243 123021234,123049029,2017-04-27 11:44:10,">>123048686 >capitalism is jewish Every time",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493293450 123021234,123049074,2017-04-27 11:44:39,">>123048686 Jesus Christ was an anarchist, man's law is moral relativism and therefore Satanism. Usury is objectively immoral and not the teachings of self ownership. Now get the fuck out of here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493293479 123021234,123049306,2017-04-27 11:46:48,">>123023267 The commies believe property rights don't count when it's ""private property"" as opposed to ""personal property,"" too bad there's no real distinction between the two. Any attempt to define a difference between the two is excuse-making by people trying to convince themselves they are morally justified in hating wealthy people.",,Anonymous,14522733_1869274866634781_6296517383239720732_n.jpg,7U69vNfNzgUDkE59enddBw==,US,,1493293608 123021234,123049645,2017-04-27 11:49:55,"So what is the opinion of starship troopers? I find it to be the ideal society where government exists under very strict parameters and operates only as a justice system, diplomatic corps, provider of common defense, and public works (infrastructure). On the overall I think that the idea of responsibility does not exist in an unlimited democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493293795 123021234,123049767,2017-04-27 11:51:06,">>123049074 >render unto Caesar >anarchist",,Anonymous,pope-pius-xi.jpg,dOPfI2Yn5nF4DZYgllj5QA==,US,,1493293866 123021234,123049814,2017-04-27 11:51:29,remember. Anticom isn't a honeypot. Its a trap.,,Anonymous,D3VNT aka Razgriz ANTICOM.png,EMvkzVJlVYhkzx1QGHiXcQ==,US,,1493293889 123021234,123050029,2017-04-27 11:53:33,">>123031412 Saved >>123036613 Are you one of these traps/trans AnCaps from /lgbt/?",,Anonymous,1492365663116.jpg,2Ta02N4faWGlyBiTwsUYSQ==,BR,,1493294013 123021234,123050231,2017-04-27 11:55:25,">>123050029 maybe :^) but anticom is mostly /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493294125 123021234,123050320,2017-04-27 11:56:13,">>123049767 >Implying the church wasn't controlled opposition to Christs teachings. Fuck off, you fucking demon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493294173 123021234,123050392,2017-04-27 11:57:02,">>123049814 Gross lady boys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493294222 123021234,123050522,2017-04-27 11:58:12,">>123050231 Well, I'm an AnCap bi top ¯\_(ツ)_/¯",,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,niWVVIABbz23KYIsl32WUA==,BR,,1493294292 123021234,123050945,2017-04-27 12:02:25,">>123036613 >>123049814 I already saw these pics. >>>/lgbt/8152113",,Anonymous,eJwFwdsNhCAQAMBeKIB9iItrNwQJmqgQ2Pu6XO8383WfcbvdnWZ97gDHNXMbh5_WRqrF19bqXVK_ps_tgWSW8vmU1yawSEBljLyIkrIKsKIEWVE3ooAYMQKFTWhhJFkp-P5W9_sDvUQiZg.XEr2h2SvPEKreG31TaukLvp1ICk.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,BR,,1493294545 123021234,123051150,2017-04-27 12:04:18,">>123050320 Doesn't respond to the actual content of hhis post, genius.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493294658 123021234,123051213,2017-04-27 12:04:55,"Anticom is great <3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VdP-FF-C_4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493294695 123021234,123051743,2017-04-27 12:09:47,">>123049306 They actually do have a significant distinction, the problem is that a society without private property is a shit society, even if it still has personal property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493294987 123021234,123052721,2017-04-27 12:18:55,people who aren't libertarians are retards.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493295535 123021234,123053422,2017-04-27 12:25:19,bump,,Anonymous,1005247158.png,09o97wo17KFhX4ZSEIY0HQ==,BR,,1493295919 123021234,123054438,2017-04-27 12:35:18,">>123021234 bumbing because the thread is dying when there is no baitor there is nothing to debate SAD !",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493296518 123021234,123055600,2017-04-27 12:45:45,">>123054438 But who will build the roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493297145 123021234,123055829,2017-04-27 12:47:44,">>123055600 kek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493297264 123021234,123056867,2017-04-27 12:57:07,>>123055600,,Anonymous,1491839985910.jpg,r+Nir6uGpVlNCLV+bfyI0w==,BR,,1493297827 123139776,123139776,2017-04-27 23:33:20,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - COMMIES AREN'T HUMAN EDITION,Anonymous,1491386920965.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,BR,,1493336000 123139776,123140047,2017-04-27 23:35:14,,,Anonymous,1490740437745.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,BR,,1493336114 123139776,123140223,2017-04-27 23:36:40,,,Anonymous,1490715992167.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,BR,,1493336200 123139776,123140404,2017-04-27 23:38:06,,,Anonymous,1491384037656.png,94+p+lp9r6D75wsCfwqEfw==,BR,,1493336286 123139776,123140574,2017-04-27 23:39:18,,,Anonymous,1491473771361.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,BR,,1493336358 123139776,123140802,2017-04-27 23:40:58,,,Anonymous,Ancapistan_border.png,xLrlaOH95a1AmCswNTBisQ==,BR,,1493336458 123139776,123141197,2017-04-27 23:44:05,,,Anonymous,d8619ebc2186015b7f5b48ea1e7c9039c9b20306ae0d17c609d75af3ccc29382.png,RNC1tZauWAJjQ9FzlXjf5A==,CA,,1493336645 123139776,123141737,2017-04-27 23:48:00,,,Anonymous,4L_f2hkuqlK.jpg,RGELik2Vz7jhr4Lf9JLnnA==,CA,,1493336880 123139776,123142011,2017-04-27 23:50:13,,,Anonymous,18057671_1326279287440387_7701774675392038523_n.png,5+pDTt5/D8OPA93sf85kqw==,BR,,1493337013 123139776,123142109,2017-04-27 23:51:06,Books on Natural Law?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493337066 123139776,123142269,2017-04-27 23:52:21,">>123139776 If the market is always right, then how do you explain the Great Depression?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493337141 123139776,123142554,2017-04-27 23:54:45,">>123142109 Lysander Spooner, Natural Law; or the Science of Justice: A Treatise on Natural Law, Natural Justice, Natural Rights, Natural Liberty, and Natural Society http://lf-oll.s3.amazonaws.com/titles/2182/Spooner_1475_EBk_v6.0.pdf",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493337285 123139776,123144987,2017-04-28 00:14:20,">>123142269 The free market is right because it reacted and corrected the lending practices that caused the great depression",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493338460 123177091,123177091,2017-04-28 06:06:16,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - I AM WHAT IS NECESSARY EDITION,Anonymous,Classic2.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1493359576 123177091,123177147,2017-04-28 06:07:04,,,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1493359624 123177091,123177164,2017-04-28 06:07:23,,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1493359643 123177091,123177185,2017-04-28 06:07:49,,,Anonymous,Rothbard3.png,Ao8wXVVOFjOX7bswWhQDBA==,US,,1493359669 123177091,123177216,2017-04-28 06:08:10,,,Anonymous,Mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,US,,1493359690 123177091,123177251,2017-04-28 06:08:35,"GARY JOHNSON READING LIST: >The Truth About Aleppo https://garyjohnson.org/aleppo >Why Don't I Have Eyebrows? https://garyjohnson.org/undocumented_immigrants >Bake That Cake: The Gary Johnson Story http://www.greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf >Liking Traps DOES NOT Make You Gay https://garyjohnson.org/okay_it_is_gay_but_thats_ok >Dude, Weed https://garyjohnson.org/weed >Borders Are Racist And Homophobic https://garyjohnson.org/more_brown_cocks_please VIDEOS >Gary Johnson's funniest moments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72zMVsd9MFg >Gary Johnson's funniest moments PART 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL1gqpWEKDM",,Anonymous,GaryJohnson.png,orJjYjOHf6bPe500QUhc5w==,US,,1493359715 123177091,123177755,2017-04-28 06:15:07,">>123177251 KEK",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493360107 123177091,123177906,2017-04-28 06:17:00,How does a capitalist explain heroism?,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493360220 123177091,123178058,2017-04-28 06:19:22,">>123177091 Thread dedicated to the enemy of libertarianism >>123176530",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1493360362 123177091,123178122,2017-04-28 06:20:09,">>123177906 What do you mean? somone doing somthing for reasons other than self-intrest? Nothings stoping anyone from working to help his community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493360409 123177091,123178335,2017-04-28 06:22:53,">>123177251 Kekekek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493360573 123177091,123178506,2017-04-28 06:24:47,">>123178122 yes, why would it not be applicable on a greater scale than the individual",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493360687 123177091,123178637,2017-04-28 06:26:23,What do you think of Larken?,,Anonymous,Larken_Rose.png,GJB00GKOGmvBleDe+aKNxA==,AU,,1493360783 123177091,123178803,2017-04-28 06:28:30,">>123178506 it is applicable. but it should be volintary. either way individuals have to make the choices to do so.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493360910 123177091,123178806,2017-04-28 06:28:30,">>123177091 All of your leaders are kikes.",,Anonymous,libertarian jews.jpg,7TXcLGHXXw2qVKv2w2BvGQ==,US,,1493360910 123177091,123178958,2017-04-28 06:30:17,Keep sucking that koch,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493361017 123177091,123179048,2017-04-28 06:31:20,,,Anonymous,1490030481012.jpg,/PeJuARouKg3Onbyixy0dg==,US,,1493361080 123177091,123179939,2017-04-28 06:42:04,">>123179048 >90% of my idols are kikes >d-don't forget about the one goy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493361724 123177091,123180084,2017-04-28 06:43:44,">>123178806 exactly kikes understand economics better than anyone you ought to listen to them once in a while. i made quite a bit of money thanks to peter schiff",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1493361824 123177091,123180112,2017-04-28 06:43:59,">>123179939 even the originals were goys.",,Anonymous,GOYs.png,A+U0uc+5K8sDTutQZm9GLw==,US,,1493361839 123177091,123180121,2017-04-28 06:44:04,">>123178806 Threadly reminder.",,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1493361844 123177091,123180202,2017-04-28 06:44:51,">>123179939 Even your idol is trying to constanly prove he's not a commie.",,Anonymous,Socialism.jpg,ljjd9De3PfwKVpQ0db6hUQ==,US,,1493361891 123177091,123180478,2017-04-28 06:47:54,>>123177091,,Anonymous,biogbufjytf.png,tQ+ZXXgP+Zi06wLCVUPEhg==,US,,1493362074 123177091,123180856,2017-04-28 06:52:46,">>123180084 Long gold?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493362366 123177091,123181046,2017-04-28 06:55:11,">>123179048 dlete",,Anonymous,1490232779795.png,WbXtfpBEY/lLqKg2hnzDtw==,AU,,1493362511 123177091,123181531,2017-04-28 07:01:42,">>123177091 Does it bother you that one of the greatest recipients of government welfare of all time Charles Koch, founded the Charles Koch institute and renamed it as the Cato institute to hide his affiliation? Also do Hayek's Mises and others' association with the Mont Pelerin institute which inherited a bunch of Council on Foreign Relations zionists and Jews drom the Council on National Policy?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493362902 123177091,123181655,2017-04-28 07:03:08,">>123177091 >>123177091 (OP) Does it bother you that one of the greatest recipients of government welfare of all time Charles Koch, founded the Charles Koch institute and renamed it as the Cato institute to hide his affiliation? Also do Hayek's Mises and others' association with the Mont Pelerin institute which inherited a bunch of Council on Foreign Relations zionists and Jews from the Council on National Policy bother you at all?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493362988 123177091,123181682,2017-04-28 07:03:28,">>123180202 He wasn't a commie though, that's the thing.",,Anonymous,1492904027736.jpg,pO412QTAapyUmvtlh395LA==,US,,1493363008 123177091,123181799,2017-04-28 07:05:08,">>123181682 >Come to assembly or I kill you >Look at my amazing crowd.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493363108 123177091,123181806,2017-04-28 07:05:14,">>123177251 Fucking kek",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493363114 123177091,123182464,2017-04-28 07:13:55,">>123181799 >Come to assembly or I kill you I there any evidence of coercion to go to Hitler's rallies?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493363635 123177091,123182687,2017-04-28 07:16:44,">>123181655 Fuck of Noam. >>123182464 See military dictatorship",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493363804 123177091,123183726,2017-04-28 07:30:40,what does /lrg/ think of Molymeme?,,Anonymous,Molyneux ethics.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,PT,,1493364640 123177091,123184527,2017-04-28 07:41:35,">>123183726 I like him, but he's cringe when he tries to be funny.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493365295 123177091,123185096,2017-04-28 07:48:25,">>123183726 Subscribed to him but rarely watch his stuff. His voice annoys me somehow. Best one was when Jordan Peterson came on.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493365705 123177091,123185736,2017-04-28 07:56:01,">>123177251 hahahaha add him to the pepes",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493366161 123177091,123185843,2017-04-28 07:57:32,">>123177251 LMAO",,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,PT,,1493366252 123177091,123186189,2017-04-28 08:01:23,"What cryptocurrency do you neets own? bitcoin master race here",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493366483 123177091,123186333,2017-04-28 08:03:24,">>123186189 >mfw never got on board of the Bitcoin train when it first came out because I didn't understand what ""mining"" was",,Anonymous,bush-noose.jpg,MlxH2PTHh9tgOCyKJjSXmQ==,PT,,1493366604 123177091,123186406,2017-04-28 08:04:17,">>123186189 Bought 15 bitcoins at 200, that's all.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493366657 123177091,123187088,2017-04-28 08:12:34,">>123177091 Is my 8Values result acceptable libtards?",,Anonymous,download.png,lSvvmmM8BKmZtfi8W9WCLg==,AU,,1493367154 123177091,123187325,2017-04-28 08:15:29,">>123177251 dude weed lmao",,Anonymous,jqr4dq5n.png,61Cg0/qnHjkrWaA+FG78yg==,ES,,1493367329 123177091,123187577,2017-04-28 08:18:29,">>123187088 Just barely acceptable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493367509 123177091,123187710,2017-04-28 08:19:52,">>123187577 Thank you senpai",,Anonymous,1485238247264.jpg,4aYzO3y5T5erjlRHkC7igA==,AU,,1493367592 123177091,123187749,2017-04-28 08:20:26,"Why are you faggots getting so militant lately This whole pinochet shit isn't a good look. You're a right wing libertarian if you like Ron Paul and Napolitano, not Trump. Leave the collectivism and violence to the commies please",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493367626 123177091,123188064,2017-04-28 08:23:46,">>123187749 Pinochet is an honorary anarchist for his valiant protection of private property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493367826 123177091,123188151,2017-04-28 08:24:42,">>123186189 BTC, ETH, ETC, LTC",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493367882 123177091,123188183,2017-04-28 08:25:01,">>123178806 Hoppe said that Mises and Rothbard, the only two competent ones in that pic, were self-hating Jews.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493367901 123177091,123188198,2017-04-28 08:25:12,">>123188064 Nah, violates the NAP and is a faggot so suck my dick Quit trying to get good boy points with /pol/ I get if your fucking around but to actually be serious shows complacency for greater good thinking which is for leftist faggots",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493367912 123177091,123188417,2017-04-28 08:27:43,"just came here to post my phresh OC I met yesterday >>123183726 not really much different from what Hoppe says, but Hoppe would have never shilled for a guy like Trump like Molyneux did (and Molyneux stopped after Trump got brainwashed by neocons) and then there was the whole spanking debate",,Anonymous,1493296540052.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,DE,,1493368063 123177091,123188516,2017-04-28 08:28:41,">>123177091 >muh private property",,Anonymous,1493344017730.jpg,Ul3WajWcXe6fAt6RnhgnGA==,US,,1493368121 123177091,123188533,2017-04-28 08:28:50,">>123188417 >and then there was the whole spanking debate which I btw have no real opinion on, just pointing out differences",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493368130 123177091,123188731,2017-04-28 08:31:03,Nobody is allowed to read this post unless they pay me 50 Bitcoins. Stop violating my post licenses and copyrights you fucking socialist freeloaders!,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493368263 123177091,123188844,2017-04-28 08:32:14,">>123188198 >Not understanding that killing commies is defense of property and the nap Mcfucking kill yourself.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1493368334 123177091,123189013,2017-04-28 08:34:16,">>123188417 Nice OC",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493368456 123177091,123189034,2017-04-28 08:34:28,">>123188844 aggression isnt defined as intent to use force you dumb faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493368468 123177091,123189272,2017-04-28 08:37:11,"I love how anarcho capitalists don't want to be ruled by any government so instead they just want to be cucked under an all powerful multinational mega corporation that's not democratically elected and will take their rights P.S please remind me why corporate warlords are better than politicians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493368631 123177091,123189343,2017-04-28 08:38:05,,,Anonymous,1492914972294.jpg,WAoYOk/QKUJ9wIaARWjGAQ==,BR,,1493368685 123177091,123189479,2017-04-28 08:39:36,">>123189272 >why corporate warlords are better than politicians It might result in some kind of Cyberpunk dystopia",,Anonymous,1475926203572.jpg,adfWK0oaa8/1g6xEQcAphA==,AU,,1493368776 123177091,123189513,2017-04-28 08:39:57,">>123189034 Coercion is threat, the intent to use force, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493368797 123177091,123191560,2017-04-28 09:03:08,">>123189513 Bump, what happened? Did I redpill a shitlib? Where's your brilliant argument for pacifism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493370188 123177091,123191891,2017-04-28 09:06:43,">>123177091 *blocks your path* >sir do you know why I pulled you over What do.",,Anonymous,egLze9R8garVKaS2Va73vmdZ.jpg,7ikxY/sJiJlA87iqGLYbTw==,US,,1493370403 123177091,123191951,2017-04-28 09:07:26,">>123191891 Am I being detained?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493370446 123177091,123192323,2017-04-28 09:11:14,">>123181682 Really. makes, you, think..",,Anonymous,Philosoraptor.jpg,61M/QSuMgRYtIy3cWbcnRQ==,US,,1493370674 123177091,123192373,2017-04-28 09:11:51,">>123191951 Only if you resist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493370711 123177091,123192899,2017-04-28 09:17:30,,,Anonymous,1489339646455.jpg,JyPW0Jo32hbIAUhzhrFWKQ==,BR,,1493371050 123177091,123193118,2017-04-28 09:19:55,">>123192899 Are you that Palaeolibertarian Brazilian I've seen before?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493371195 123177091,123193129,2017-04-28 09:20:06,">>123192373 FUGG :D",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493371206 123177091,123193284,2017-04-28 09:21:43,">>123189343 Gadsden qts best qts",,Anonymous,would tread on.png,Wn3qPwZ1llzuwwvsIDp+HA==,PT,,1493371303 123177091,123193346,2017-04-28 09:22:16,">>123177091 >was a libertarian >can't square immigration from the non-white world into the white world >can't square immigration and democracy >think women's suffrage was a mistake >think organic order is a better value as a telos than equality What do /lrg/?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493371336 123177091,123193520,2017-04-28 09:23:59,">>123193346 >supporting democrazy >supporting open borders take the Hoppepill",,Anonymous,Hoppe on immigration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,PT,,1493371439 123177091,123193952,2017-04-28 09:28:24,">>123193346 You are a paleo-conservative. Pat Buchanan is your guy.",,Anonymous,Pat.png,/fvZH4/aSScLtcsV+rIhWw==,US,,1493371704 123177091,123194757,2017-04-28 09:37:37,">>123193520 I'm still a little skeptical of anarcho-capitalism, I still hold to the Schmittian rule that there has to be a partisan >>123193952 Probably. I do like him. Him and Ron Paul where the only politicians who ran in my lifetime who probably could've drastically changed anything. I do think the US is irredeemable at this point though. I also find it interesting that a lot of Ron Paul people in 08(Peter Thiel, Nassim Taleb, Pat Buchanan, and Richard Spencer) went for Trump. I don't think Trump is going to be the agent they thought he was, but we'll see",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493372257 123177091,123194803,2017-04-28 09:38:09,">>123193284 is that white rose?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1493372289 123177091,123195705,2017-04-28 09:47:24,">>123193284 I like bois and gurls",,Anonymous,AnCap RothGirl youtube channel.jpg,wN50MeEUr0yCIK/1yVwHWg==,BR,,1493372844 123177091,123196016,2017-04-28 09:50:31,">>123195705 >I like bois and gurls Can such degeneracy be competitive in the free market",,Anonymous,Armed Trap.jpg,ZlFZJXPtX5WvnPo2AC46rQ==,PT,,1493373031 123177091,123196222,2017-04-28 09:52:39,">>123194757 >richard spencer supported ron paul what's his end goal",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493373159 123177091,123196732,2017-04-28 09:57:37,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493373457 123177091,123198092,2017-04-28 10:10:47,">board being split Where does /lrg/ go? Better fucking stay here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493374247 123177091,123198221,2017-04-28 10:12:07,">>123198092 We are actually politics, not tranny discussion We deserve to stay",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493374327 123177091,123198398,2017-04-28 10:13:44,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOv3KYbupY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOv3KYbupY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOv3KYbupY Berkeley",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493374424 123177091,123198501,2017-04-28 10:14:51,"'Anarcho'-Capitalism is an oxymoron and has nothing to do with anarchism. It is better called neo-feudalism. >Introduction to Anarchism https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf >The Anarchist FAQ http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA >Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism? http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF >Anarcho-'Capitalism' is impossible. https://c4ss.org/content/4043 >What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen >The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread >Markets not capitalism http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf",,Anonymous,12314254345.jpg,yQzKtNYq8O3jZlZitErT4A==,GB,,1493374491 123177091,123198569,2017-04-28 10:15:30,">>123196016 I like portuga crossdressers and bois.",,Anonymous,nao-mexa-comigo.jpg,iZvMp11omaLxhZd0O8rw/g==,BR,,1493374530 123177091,123198884,2017-04-28 10:18:42,">>123198501 Anarcho communism is the definition of faggotry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493374722 123177091,123199001,2017-04-28 10:19:55,"Rothbard was allied with the new-left in the 60's and argued for worker ownership of firms in the essay 'All power to the soviets'. https://invisiblemolotov.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/ma1.pdf",,Anonymous,11234234345.jpg,XK6MqBJ1jPAkx99gcXjrcA==,GB,,1493374795 123177091,123199176,2017-04-28 10:21:35,>>123198501,,Anonymous,85b33e1d5147e1c1e5aecebe37c46f2b037e871bb676bdafc9aeb21f6501e3db_1.jpg,xwtufaShvubtNCzCVjbhMQ==,BR,,1493374895 123177091,123199458,2017-04-28 10:24:24,">>123198569 >portuga crossdressers and bois. Those even exist? I thought all crossdressers here came from Brazil",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493375064 123177091,123199701,2017-04-28 10:27:02,">>123199458 Parece que a maioria vive em Porto, conheço um bem perturbado mental já faz anos e conheci um lindo trap de 18 anos recentemente. Meu affair é 100% descendente de portugueses, todos os passivos portugas por algum motivo tem benis acima da média, os espanhóis e americanos costumam ter small benis.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493375222 123177091,123199717,2017-04-28 10:27:13,"What do you do about ghosts? Are they violating your property rights if they haunt your house? Or are you violating theirs because, it was their house before they died?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493375233 123177091,123199766,2017-04-28 10:27:44,>>123199176,,Anonymous,1123234235234.jpg,OX2W4ahT+brr62UiNq6DaA==,GB,,1493375264 123177091,123200111,2017-04-28 10:31:14,">>123199717 I'm not an expert in that field, maybe Stirner can help you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493375474 123177091,123200353,2017-04-28 10:33:53,">>123177251 top fuggnnnnnnnnnnnnnn kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493375633 123177091,123200499,2017-04-28 10:35:08,">>123198501 On anarcho capitalism is not capitalism ""My take on the impossibility of anarcho-capitalism is simply as follows: Under anarchism, mass accumulation and concentration of capital is impossible."" Who comes up with this rubbish?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493375708 123177091,123200765,2017-04-28 10:37:38,">>123200499 Without a state there is nothing to protect absentee ownership of property. You can't exactly expect to accumulate land, machines and vast amounts of wealth without some sort of entity to protect it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493375858 123177091,123200779,2017-04-28 10:37:47,">>123199766 I'm a leftist and even I would admit that Anarcho-capitalism is the most coherent of the hyphenated Anaracho's. Others make zero sense and would be completely infeasible. Anyone who is a left anarchist seriously is mentally ill for holding such a contradictory, and totally infeasible set of beliefs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493375867 123177091,123201128,2017-04-28 10:41:26,">>123200779 >anarchism as a political movement from its inception has been against hierarchy and capitalism. >every anarchist variant until Rothbard was anti-capitalist. How the hell is 'anarcho'-capitalism a form of anarchism?",,Anonymous,11`314234235354.png,VTJV7upd95jlatO5X/i9Ww==,GB,,1493376086 123177091,123201278,2017-04-28 10:42:58,">>123199766 >>>123200779 BTFO",,Anonymous,41711af2ca8e8b74d6d5f181a37d3ef90448f5fad6895998fe9030f7a3901f2f_1.jpg,axKQbYyYctQ583qK5uKrnA==,BR,,1493376178 123177091,123201371,2017-04-28 10:43:46,">>123198501 >an coms calling anyone neo-feudalism Enjoy your syndicates and unions",,Anonymous,1490723191202.jpg,7OZYKfTZdhWW0H0q8ACRsA==,US,,1493376226 123177091,123201456,2017-04-28 10:44:33,">>123201128 Capitalism is an economic system, not a form of government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493376273 123177091,123201650,2017-04-28 10:46:33,">>123200765 So it is or isn't possible? He says it isn't, you say it is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493376393 123177091,123201773,2017-04-28 10:47:41,">>123200779 Anarcho-primitivism is the most consistent because it is the only branch of anarchism willing to admit that eliminating the government means eliminating modern civilization itself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493376461 123177091,123201831,2017-04-28 10:48:17,">>123201456 A system which required government to protect private property rights. >>123201371 A commune in which the means of production are collectively and democratically owned is not feudalism. A property owner with his own private security who gets to make all the rules for the people who work for them is feudalism.",,Anonymous,112342354.jpg,ULlDwqBBOzvtBK8tXL/2AQ==,GB,,1493376497 123177091,123201868,2017-04-28 10:48:40,">>123200765 >I have money and would like to purchase you land >Okay",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493376520 123177091,123201899,2017-04-28 10:48:51,">>123177091 Any Geolibertarians here?",,Henry George,emmememe.jpg,ii2fbCLmnFokum3pcpYiXg==,US,,1493376531 123177091,123201997,2017-04-28 10:49:55,">>123177091 Taxation is theft right guyz?",,Henry George,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1493376595 123177091,123202042,2017-04-28 10:50:20,">>123201868 And who will protect your land? If you say private police then you've created your own mini state.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493376620 123177091,123202104,2017-04-28 10:50:52,">>123201868 >People will respect agreements with no legal backing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493376652 123177091,123202129,2017-04-28 10:51:06,">>123201831 Except you have it backwards. Law comes about first from a collection of beliefs then a codified law enforcing it. Not the other way around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493376666 123177091,123202443,2017-04-28 10:54:12,">>123202129 And what happens when people have different beliefs? What then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493376852 123177091,123202753,2017-04-28 10:57:38,">supporting a failed ideology How do those open borders work out for you? Not enough beaners to drive down wages still?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493377058 123177091,123202810,2017-04-28 10:58:05,">>123202443 >conflict is unique to certain ideologies Nice bait.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493377085 123177091,123202958,2017-04-28 10:59:35,">>123202042 That's not a state",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493377175 123177091,123203155,2017-04-28 11:01:30,">>123202104 >what are private courts Why don't people respect legal backings now?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493377290 123177091,123203162,2017-04-28 11:01:36,"Guys, my core belief is that the government exists to serve the people and not abuse them. I believe people should be able to do whatever they want on their piece of ground as long as they don't harm their neighbors. That guns should be available to all without registry and that hard criminals like terrorists where there is 100 % undeniable proof about it, should be executed. And that muslims, jews, liberals and anything non-white should be illegal in order to keep the peace. And I believe in a good co-operation between the police and the people. What does this make me ? I get along with Libertarian Right a lot but I find that system leaves the people with no say at all and believe people's rights are being infringed at the drop of a hat if the government gets away with it. What exactly is my political orientation ?",,Anonymous,1446960143468.jpg,/Umpd9Ze5TnlhZrn37cRTg==,BE,,1493377296 123177091,123203230,2017-04-28 11:02:15,">>123186333 It's okay Jeb! There's still time. Also checked",,Anonymous,file.png,UHwfED2DuB9ovAKsvIyfJQ==,GB,,1493377335 123177091,123203330,2017-04-28 11:03:05,">>123202958 By that standard the entire British commonwealth is not a state because all the land technically belongs to Queen Elizabeth II. When you pay taxes, you are technically paying rent for living on her property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493377385 123177091,123203428,2017-04-28 11:04:07,">>123203155 >people will respect courts with no legal backing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493377447 123177091,123203510,2017-04-28 11:04:58,">>123203330 >>123203428 >gets BTFO >starts to be obtuse in response lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493377498 123177091,123203593,2017-04-28 11:05:47,">>123202042 >I will redefine state so it fits my bias Open assemblies has way more in common with a state than police, which only has legitimacy in violence as commonality. >>123201997 >We will protect you from any *accident* in exchange for a fee >Same as contractual obligation subjected to third party arbitration Not theft at all, capo",,Anonymous,cle_mafia--644x362.jpg,11HAqNHOqYlZ5vH0cuUizw==,MT,,1493377547 123177091,123203608,2017-04-28 11:05:54,">>123203330 No because there's a voluntary contract involved",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493377554 123177091,123203763,2017-04-28 11:07:26,">>123203428 So you plan to become an outlaw? Good luck with that",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493377646 123177091,123203769,2017-04-28 11:07:29,">>123203608 There is a voluntary contract involved with living in Britain as well. Nobody is forcing you to live there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493377649 123177091,123203803,2017-04-28 11:07:53,,,Anonymous,1492914886556.png,nlOd0aD96iDkbfLfHX4/lA==,BR,,1493377673 123177091,123203901,2017-04-28 11:08:45,">>123203763 Outlaw to who? A private court has no legal authority so it can be safely ignored without consequence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493377725 123177091,123204067,2017-04-28 11:10:32,">>123203769 >what are passports >>123203901 Everyone",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493377832 123177091,123204084,2017-04-28 11:10:40,">>123203901 >I don't want to be subjected to conflict resolution >Somehow that won't paint a huge target in my back and property You would last a day before you're begging to be insured.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493377840 123177091,123204244,2017-04-28 11:12:07,">>123203162 I made a mistake, what I meant was I get along with Authoritarian Right a lot but I believe that people can get taken advantage of too much if the government can get away with it.",,Anonymous,12009791_1053218521377093_3239860020980322329_n.jpg,4w+S2ZiATRV7IyPQd9Rpfg==,BE,,1493377927 123177091,123204246,2017-04-28 11:12:08,>>123199766,,Anonymous,commies.jpg,jF0VFF21qc2ahrUAcE8ZiQ==,NZ,,1493377928 123177091,123204256,2017-04-28 11:12:14,">>123177251 >Bake that Cake kkekekeke",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1493377934 123177091,123204283,2017-04-28 11:12:31,">>123204084 ""Conflict resolution"" from a source with no authority is worthless. A court is powerless unless it is attached to a government capable of enforcing its verdicts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493377951 123177091,123204544,2017-04-28 11:15:03,">>123204067 You can't hurt me in any way without violating NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493378103 123177091,123204630,2017-04-28 11:15:46,">>123204244 What did you mean by this you mother fucking son of s fucking bitch as asshole nigger",,Anonymous,,,PK,,1493378146 123177091,123204661,2017-04-28 11:16:00,">>123203803 Isn't asking an outside party to punish bad behavior, closer to fascism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493378160 123177091,123204776,2017-04-28 11:17:16,">>123204630 Well you see, niggers and sandniggers turn everything they touch to shit, and we cannot have a functioning society with disgusting animals like you in it.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1493378236 123177091,123204971,2017-04-28 11:19:27,">>123204283 >""Conflict resolution"" from a source with no authority is worthless >A court is powerless unless it is attached to a government capable of enforcing its verdicts. It's not so hard to figure out. In your own self-interest you want to be insured for conflict resolution, without an insurance on conflict resolution you're basically an outlaw, with its advantages, and its inconveniences. An outlaw is a person who is not going to be defended in case of prosecution, so if you do me wrong, I will order my police to subject you to violence. You will need to wage war on them if you don't want to be subjected to a fair trial, and nobody will lift an arm for an outlaw, nobody wants you lowering their property's value just with your mere presence. Law's power doesn't originate from government, law's power originates from different societies moral codes.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493378367 123177091,123205215,2017-04-28 11:21:46,">>123203162 Right Minarchist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493378506 123177091,123205367,2017-04-28 11:23:18,">>123205215 >Right Minarchist Thank you, is there any particular reading material you would suggest on this specifically ?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1493378598 123177091,123205371,2017-04-28 11:23:19,">>123204971 The law's power comes from force. Nobody follows the law except because they are forced to do so. A law that is not enforced will be quickly ignored. This is why the idea of a purely ""voluntary"" society is a farce.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493378599 123177091,123205654,2017-04-28 11:26:10,">>123205371 Law comes from society, and is applied with force. You cannot force a society to follow laws they don't want for long before they revolt against you. So, if the requirements for law are both society and force, we can deduct that no state is necessary to conduct lawful interactions.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493378770 123177091,123206010,2017-04-28 11:29:43,">>123205654 So instead of having a state, we have ""private"" institutions that behave identically to how a state behaves, but it is okay because we inserted the word ""private"" into the name.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493378983 123177091,123206268,2017-04-28 11:32:13,">>123206010 >behave identically to how a state behaves Not even close. You could say a private school behaves ""just like a state"" if a private service for a common human demand is all it takes for it to be considered a state.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493379133 123177091,123206344,2017-04-28 11:33:00,">>123186189 currently have 6200 TaaS. The investment ended yesterday. But at the beginning of January I started with trading LTC, ETH, ETC, MNR",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493379180 123177091,123206541,2017-04-28 11:34:59,">>123206268 If a ""private"" court has the ability to punish you for breaking laws that you never explicitly agreed to, then it is functionally no different than the ""evil"" government-run courts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493379299 123177091,123206879,2017-04-28 11:38:25,">>123206541 In the case you laid out, the private court only has the ability to punish you for breaking laws you never agreed to because you decided to become an outlaw. If we're changing the premises and you had a law enforcement insurance, then the situation obviously changes: they would take care with the other person's insurance to find a settlement or expose the case to third party arbitration that both parties agree with.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493379505 123177091,123207175,2017-04-28 11:41:17,">>123206344 Didn't I read that was a ponzi?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493379677 123177091,123207397,2017-04-28 11:43:22,">>123206879 >the private court only has the ability to punish you for breaking laws you never agreed to because you decided to become an outlaw. This is literally no different than how an ""evil"" government-run court operates. The difference is, I have power to vote on what laws the government-run court works under. This ""private"" court is different because I have no say in it at all. Seems to me that this ""private"" court is a dangerous threat to my freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493379802 123177091,123207477,2017-04-28 11:44:12,"um guys >>123207143 >>123207143",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493379852 123177091,123207582,2017-04-28 11:45:11,">>123207477 No one cares for your LARPing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493379911 123177091,123207618,2017-04-28 11:45:27,HEEBS WILL NOT DIVIDE US,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493379927 123177091,123208609,2017-04-28 11:55:01,">>123207397 Oh but it is way different. I would never hire a private law firm that keeps introducing conflicts like the state does, and I would never subject myself to variable and unpredictable law frames such as the ones created by a democratic state. Private law is pure conflict resolution and nothing else because law is an exchange, what you want to be defended against is the same as what you want to renounce doing to others. >This ""private"" court is different because I have no say in it at all I just told you, you hire a law enforcement insurance (or you go live in a covenant where law enforcement insurance is included in the running costs), you select the amount of laws you want to be exposed to, and you select a law enforcement insurance that offers satisfactory and fair conflict resolution against other insurances. That's having way more ""say"" than you, one person out of the 300M of people who live in your country, currently have.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493380501 123177091,123208677,2017-04-28 11:55:41,"https://youtu.be/f6KDrSm9MJM https://youtu.be/tfpo7jQiCG0 Does /lrg/ approve of polski ancap metal?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493380541 123177091,123208800,2017-04-28 11:56:44,">>123177091 https://youtu.be/oXWgJSpvbic",,Anonymous,nig history.jpg,skGjkYv++ZN7nevW8iR9ug==,US,,1493380604 123177091,123208983,2017-04-28 11:58:25,">>123185096 Michael Malice was on and it was good",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1493380705 123177091,123209180,2017-04-28 12:00:07,">>123208609 >Private law is pure conflict resolution If that is the case then it has no ""real"" power. It cannot punish anybody, and there it has no way to enforce its verdicts. Everybody will ignore it, and justifiably so. >or you go live in a covenant where law enforcement insurance is included in the running costs Sounds pretty much identical to a nation-state. >you select the amount of laws you want to be exposed to If individuals can pick and choose what laws they want to be bound by, then there is no law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493380807 123177091,123210648,2017-04-28 12:13:10,">>123182687 >See military dictatorship So no evidence at all, eh. Only assumptions?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493381590 123177091,123210693,2017-04-28 12:13:40,">>123209180 >If that is the case then it has no ""real"" power. It cannot punish anybody Really? Let's lay down how it works. First we need a conflict, for example, you shoot my dog for no reason at all. I report you to my insurance, they try to contact your insurance. If you have an insurance, the following things will happen: They will see the evidence, talk to you, and try to settle the conflict in a satisfactory manner to both parties. If you refuse for a settlement, then my insurance will try to use third party arbitration, this will probably increase your insurance costs. If you refuse third party arbitration, then at this point your insurance company will most likely stop giving service to you, because you're a resources drain, and my private law company will extract your assets by force until I'm satisfied, plus a commission because nobody will raise an arm for someone who refuses to settle conflicts in a peaceful manner. If you have so much money that you can keep refusing fair judgement for your actions and your insurance thinks it's still worth it to defend you, then you need to prepare for war. Obviously you will pay for this war, which will put a strain on your resources and the competitiveness of whatever source of income you have. This war will be between an insurance company that is perceived as fair by most people, with lots of happy customers, versus your law insurance company, who clearly is not solving conflicts and has a warmonger attitude, with the associated costs to such attitude. That's how conflicts are solved in a private law society.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493381620 123177091,123211146,2017-04-28 12:17:41,">>123177251 Ahahah fuck me Now make an Ayn Rand reading list",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1493381861 123177091,123212043,2017-04-28 12:25:37,">>123210693 The problem with all this is that it seems to assume that everybody is omniscient and has perfect knowledge of what is going on the world, even in situations where there is no logical way that they could know. For example, you are accusing me of shooting your dog. But what if I say that I didn't shoot your dog? You seem to be assuming that everybody will automatically take your side, and that they will be so emotionally invested in the matter that they'll drop everything going on in their lives to support you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493382337 123177091,123212533,2017-04-28 12:30:05,">>123177251 Top Kek",,Anonymous,download (8).jpg,x5O0HiE2qP/gk/aUPX2hnQ==,GB,,1493382605 123177091,123213221,2017-04-28 12:35:56,">>123212043 >For example, you are accusing me of shooting your dog. But what if I say that I didn't shoot your dog?",,Anonymous,1489267999721.jpg,sELHWgiUO2cEcVh9fqWJRg==,GB,,1493382956 123177091,123214789,2017-04-28 12:49:59,">>123212043 I will need to demonstrate it, obviously. Without me demonstrating it, my insurance will advise me against going to court, because no company wants to waste resources just to end up losing and having negative press. >But what if I say that I didn't shoot your dog? That's why I specified third party arbitration. A person who refuses to seek for fair third party arbitration is, usually, a guilty person. In this case, if you didn't shoot my dog, why would you refuse to solve the conflict in a peaceful manner? Refusal to solve conflicts in a peaceful manner is a declaration of war by all means. How many people will be able to single handedly gauge war ad eternum? Literally 0. Your country has plenty of private conflict resolution arbitration, specially in commercial disputes, shouldn't be so difficult to understand, then, why people would subject themselves to law, even if that means they will lose sometimes.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493383799 123177091,123215053,2017-04-28 12:52:32,">>123213221 Yes, people very frequently deny that they've committed a crime when they are accused of crimes in real life. In fact, it is more often than not, the very first thing that an accused criminal does after being accused of a crime. Your ""private"" court system is completely unable to deal with the concept that people can say ""No, I didn't do that.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493383952 123177091,123215499,2017-04-28 12:56:29,">>123214789 I want to subject myself to law, I want to go to jail or pay a fine if I shoot your dog, I want to be castrated if I rape your sister, I want to be liable to remunerate you for any damage I cause in your property. Why? Because I want to be defended from you shooting my dog, I want to be defended from you raping my sister, and I want you to be liable for any damage you cause in my property. Exposing yourself to law is purely self-interest, and therefore we can conclude that state is not necessary. >>123215053 >No I didn't do that >Here are the caskets from his gun, a video of him shooting my dog, and here is a phone call where you ask me ""how's your dog doing, faggot?"". >dindu nuffin i swear",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493384189 123177091,123215544,2017-04-28 12:56:58,">>123214789 >In this case, if you didn't shoot my dog, why would you refuse to solve the conflict in a peaceful manner? Because your ""private"" court is very obviously going to heavily biased in your favor. Any sensible person would strongly object to a trial where the prosecution, judge, and jury are all the same person.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493384218 123177091,123215751,2017-04-28 12:58:55,">>123215499 >Person says they didn't do it >You literally can't do anything about it without violating NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493384335 123177091,123215798,2017-04-28 12:59:18,">>123215544 Third party arbitration, selected by both insurances, is going to be heavily biased? Do you even want to have a debate or you just want to ""win""? Because I would swear I made this point 5 times already and you keep ""forgetting"" it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493384358 123177091,123215802,2017-04-28 12:59:21,">>123200779 >I'm a leftist",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,RsM19hiQkhDGyz3sk/WXaw==,GB,,1493384361 123177091,123215838,2017-04-28 12:59:40,">>123184527 Yeah I watched Truereview with him and Mike. When he would joke Mike would just try to work through it. It broke the flow of the the 'discussion'.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493384380 123177091,123216075,2017-04-28 13:01:43,">>123188064 >Pinochet is an honorary anarchist for his valiant protection of private property. The pinnacle of hypocrisy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493384503 123177091,123216199,2017-04-28 13:02:59,">>123215798 99% sure from the way they write it must be someone who is a) Female b) Very young c) Not highly educated. Not trying to label but the debate never ever extends past basic questions. Its like a five year old asking ""and then what"" to her father.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493384579 123177091,123216301,2017-04-28 13:04:01,">>123189513 Shouldn't you be throwing minarchists out of helicopters too? Since, they also support a degree of government and therefore use of force. Or is the NAP just a pseudo-philosophical principle you use to justify doing whatever you want?",,Anonymous,A79135971.png,DMXbAuCjL2M7fTzCdCedtA==,GB,,1493384641 123177091,123216659,2017-04-28 13:07:08,2019 is our year,,Anonymous,1493230153768.jpg,DQH9FuTNPyPOk/urZYfnQQ==,BG,,1493384828 123177091,123217054,2017-04-28 13:10:33,">>123215798 And what if somebody doesn't insurance?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493385033 123177091,123217270,2017-04-28 13:12:31,">>123216199 Because in real-life these ""basic questions"" are extremely easy to answers. You only find them difficult because your system doesn't make any sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493385151 123177091,123217414,2017-04-28 13:13:46,">>123217054 I already explained this. >>123215751 >I don't respect your law but I want to be protected by it NAP is against initiation of force, not against force. If you haven't even grasped that yet how are you even trying to maintain a debate about it? If you are not here to be educated but to win a debate by being disingenuous then I have no interest. My views have been challenged multiple times during my life by people who knew more than me, but certainly not by people who show a total ignorance about the topic at hand and just want to argument ad nauseam. >>123217270 If you keep ignoring every answer you're given then certainly things will never make sense. To you.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493385226 123177091,123217837,2017-04-28 13:17:43,">>123216301 >The government is ALWAYS evil >Unless it is being used by a south American dictator to kidnap and torture his political rivals >Then it is okay >>123217414 >NAP is against initiation of force, not against force. By attempting to subject me to your private court system without my consent, you are very obviously initiating force against me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493385463 123177091,123217934,2017-04-28 13:18:29,">>123199701 >Parece que a maioria vive em Porto >a minha cidade está cheia de traps e eu nunca reparei",,Anonymous,1493297175869.jpg,R/Kh9gwEz0IXg6n+xZfgqg==,PT,,1493385509 123177091,123218591,2017-04-28 13:24:08,,,Anonymous,capitalism is best.png,tb24SZ5SXAAr9bRikoQtKQ==,US,,1493385848 123177091,123218608,2017-04-28 13:24:21,">>123217837 I already explained this too. >>123214789 >Refusal to solve conflicts in a peaceful manner is a declaration of war by all means You're arguing in circles.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493385861 123177091,123218714,2017-04-28 13:25:23,">>123201128 Because >anarchism as a political movement from its inception has been against hierarchy and capitalism is wrong. That's how it started, because communism and anarchism were the same thing, but after other groups showed up, the original anarchism got renamed to anarcho-communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493385923 123177091,123219018,2017-04-28 13:28:16,">>123177091 So what about the argument that with libertarianism a country inadvertently ends up with (((them))) controlling the economy and most importantly the banking sector? Just curious.",,Anonymous,the_fucking_oven.jpg,XHN2xv6tqnrm4RyqG4ZFxA==,HU,,1493386096 123177091,123219038,2017-04-28 13:28:25,">>123218608 Congratulations, you've successfully created a court system where somebody can start a war simply be pleading ""not guilty.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493386105 123177091,123219360,2017-04-28 13:31:33,">>123219018 Literally an admission that given an even plaingfield you are incapable of winning.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493386293 123177091,123219451,2017-04-28 13:32:21,">>123219038 >Expose your plead to third party arbitration and resolve it in a peaceful manner. >Decide not to expose your plead and declare war. I see two clear options here.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493386341 123177091,123219589,2017-04-28 13:33:34,">>123219018 In a libertarian society (((they))) would only control the banking sector by offering a superior product",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493386414 123177091,123219627,2017-04-28 13:33:55,">>123177091 Why are right-libertarians such cucks? Why do they feel so comfortable letting corporations decide everything for them when they scream COMMUNISM like frothing, shrieking autists for governments doing so? Take your time in formulating a response.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493386435 123177091,123219779,2017-04-28 13:35:19,">>123219627 >Why do they feel so comfortable letting corporations decide everything for them What do corporations decide for me without the government as proxy? Take your time, lmao.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493386519 123177091,123219820,2017-04-28 13:35:47,">>123219451 And if an individual is suing somebody who has much more money than themselves, then what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493386547 123177091,123220035,2017-04-28 13:37:31,">>123219779 >lemme answer that question with another question ayyy LE MAO Why do speechless cucks do this every time?Literally every single thing about the way you live will be decided by unregulated money-grabbing kikes. Everything you buy, everything you want to buy, everything you're advertised to. Consumer culture would be beyond repair, even worse than it already is. Why does that seem comfortable to you, commie faggot?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493386651 123177091,123220044,2017-04-28 13:37:37,">>123218591 not an argument",,Anonymous,A8860825.png,FfCR4o1eHqrzKwd8rDRchw==,GB,,1493386657 123177091,123220578,2017-04-28 13:42:33,">>123220035 Because they don't understand the consequences of a completely unregulated environment. >Lol, you just signed a contact for a mortgage, little did you know I inserted a clause on the 38th page saying you're now my slave forever and it is legally valid because you signed the contract!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493386953 123177091,123220966,2017-04-28 13:46:04,">>123219820 I see you're narrowing your arguments so I guess that means you concede that in similar economic status private law makes sense. If an individual is suing somebody who has much more money than themselves, they would still be subject to third party arbitration. If you can demonstrate you're in the right, a lot of companies will be interested in representing you in order to get a bigger commission than usual. Refusal from this wealthy individual to be subject to peaceful resolution will, again, be a declaration of war, and the war will be gauged by those wealthy companies who think you're right. >>123220035 >Answer with another question Not really, I answered that you're wrong (not like you made an argument, you just made a statement), and then asked you a question which, once answered, would demonstrate that you're wrong. But yeah, add more ""cuck"" ""kike"" and other buzzwords, sure will make you popular on this korean diy board.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493387164 123177091,123221369,2017-04-28 13:49:38,">>123219360 M8 you can't win in literally everything, that's just the american delusion speaking within you. But that doesn't mean your country should be wiped off the face of the earth...",,Anonymous,cantdealwithit.gif,Iyxpr4z7JJhxdQ/nLOpUQA==,HU,,1493387378 123177091,123221538,2017-04-28 13:50:56,">>123220966 You didn't answer shit. You asked a question that I answered again, and then you refused to provide an argument for two points now. Why are libertarians this retarded? Calling me out on my language isn't an argument, cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493387456 123177091,123221636,2017-04-28 13:51:48,">>123220966 >in similar economic status private law makes sense I never conceded that. I changed the subject to something else because you were refusing to continue. Fine by me. >Refusal from this wealthy individual to be subject to peaceful resolution will, again, be a declaration of war No, it won't. People will not risk their lives to defend the property rights of a poor tenant farmer against a wealthy individual with his own private army. They simply will not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493387508 123177091,123221650,2017-04-28 13:51:53,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWM4bJNpch0 your thoughts? i would assume porn is considered okay in libertarianism, obviously, but after listening to this i'm not sure i can take so much degeneracy i'm taking the snakeism path",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493387513 123177091,123221923,2017-04-28 13:54:23,">>123221538 My question implied clearly that corporations make no decisions over me unless it is through government proxy. So I can deduce that you're simply too stupid to even understand the implicit answer in my posts. Enjoy your buzzwords, brainlet.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493387663 123177091,123222069,2017-04-28 13:55:40,">>123219589 Let me give you an example: 1) Let's say, your country, Malta becomes a full blown Libertarian society 2) Let's say that tunisian investors start taking over your energy industry, with superior products and services. Because Malta is a libertarian society, they don't care a bout this. 3) Tunisia is capable of offering these products because they are actually doing this in a deficit. Their plan is to make Malta completely dependent on Tunisian energy, which happens. 4) Eventually, Malta is without any infrastructure and know-how about said energy sector (apart from some very crude forms I guess), and this is when Tunisia starts blackmailing them for whatever purpose it is. 5) Malta faces now complete meltdown of society due to widespread blackouts or they can decide to become the essential vassal of Tunisia Can Malta recuperate? Sure, but it will be hard and Tunisia will try everything to stop it. Now the same goddamn thing happens every fucking time in literally every economic sector. It's great if the intentions are profit only (i.e. they are libertarian as well), but if they're not, you're FUCKED. Sorry if the example was a bit forced but hopefully you get the gist",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493387740 123177091,123222247,2017-04-28 13:57:26,">>123221636 People are so dumb that they will let rich people get away with not trying to solve conflicts in a peaceful manner or be exposed to any kind of moral conduct? Lol good luck maintaining your wealth like that.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493387846 123177091,123222689,2017-04-28 14:01:21,">>123221923 Okay but I already explained how they do, you're just incapable of thinking through the government proxy aspect. We're all free to fuck off and live innawoods forever, but I don't think you're suggesting that, and unregulated growth will result in corporations dominating every single facet of our lives because they will provide what we need but on their terms. If you're too fucking stupid to understand this or refute this, then we have absolutely nothing to talk about, you cuck of kike-loving nigger libertarian. That enough buzzwords for you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493388081 123177091,123222821,2017-04-28 14:02:29,">>123222247 Well okay, people might revolt, but then you'd have a revolution such as occurred in France in 1789 or Russia in 1917. I don't know about you, but I live having a way to settle matters without having society devolve into wanton murder for a period of time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493388149 123177091,123222896,2017-04-28 14:03:07,">>123177251 Brilliant. Have a bump for self-ownership and faggot cakes.",,Anonymous,johnson.png,nnFcA9shSnsvOizwSaWomQ==,SK,,1493388187 123177091,123222965,2017-04-28 14:03:47,">>123222069 >1 Okay >2 So far no problem >3 Tunisia is capable of offering these products because they are actually doing this in a deficit I don't care how they do it, they are still offering me a better product. I don't think this is sustainable practice for business though. >Their plan is to make Malta completely dependent on Tunisian energy, which happens I wouldn't say dependent, I would say inclined to use their services. >4) Eventually, Malta is without any infrastructure and know-how about said energy sector (apart from some very crude forms I guess), and this is when Tunisia starts blackmailing them for whatever purpose it is. There are plenty of other rich people in Malta who will see this blackmail as a chance to enter the market of energy. Rich people can hire others with know-how easily. Energy is a profitable market so I'm sure there would be a lot of people waiting for the Tunisians to fuck up slightly. I guess no need to answer 5 as it is based on 4 which is a premise I don't agree with.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493388227 123177091,123222999,2017-04-28 14:04:00,">>123221923 And without any regulations or controls on their actions, what stops corporations in an ancap society from simply creating a new government to serve their interests?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493388240 123177091,123223133,2017-04-28 14:05:07,">>123177906 A person whose accomplishments dwarf those of the average person. This is often achieved through sacrificing a great deal to achieve a greater result. We're not against self-sacrifice, but we don't view it as a bad thing - if you value your end goal more than your life, then you're valuable as hell.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493388307 123177091,123223498,2017-04-28 14:08:15,">>123178506 Anyone can be a ""hero"" if you put a gun against their head and give them no choice. Therefore, heroism must be a choice everyone makes for themselves. Furthermore, if everybody is a hero, nobody is. Thus, ""mandatory heroism"" or sacrifice decreases the value of sacrifices made voluntarily out of the goodness of someone's heart.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493388495 123177091,123223699,2017-04-28 14:10:08,">>123178806 No. Hoppe is German. Hayek was Austrian. Cantwell is glorious New Hampshire master race. Bastiat was French. Ron Paul is breddy white. Besides, Mises and Rothbard were one step from white supremacists and very race-realistic. They'd probably support the alt-right at the very least.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493388608 123177091,123223918,2017-04-28 14:11:57,">>123178806 Oh, and Milton Friedman helped Pinochet with the Miracle of Chile. Ayn Rand is pretty weak compared to those three, and I agree that her worship of money is laughable at best, but she makes solid points about self-interest.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493388717 123177091,123224226,2017-04-28 14:14:29,">>123179939 Literally the man we build our thread around, and no, he's not important according to some faggot statist. Go do your taxes, gaylord.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493388869 123177091,123224416,2017-04-28 14:15:58,">>123182687 Whoa there, Pinochet's regime was a military dictatorship junta as well and he is still regarded as a liberator.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493388958 123177091,123224456,2017-04-28 14:16:20,">>123183726 He's /ourmischling/.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493388980 123177091,123224954,2017-04-28 14:20:13,">>123187749 >Trump But we don't like him beyond as a tool. See, we don't glorify people. People change. We glorify ideas, which cannot change by principle.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493389213 123177091,123225140,2017-04-28 14:21:46,">>123189272 >ruled by a corporation So... you mean a government?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493389306 123177091,123225330,2017-04-28 14:23:14,">>123193346 Those are all compatible positions. Hoppe basically thinks the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493389394 123177091,123225397,2017-04-28 14:23:48,">>123222965 Sure, you can enter the energy market, but that doesn't happen overnight, ffs. How long till you build a nuclear reactor WITHOUT ENERGY? Also, alternative scenario: Tunisia just shuts down energy and invades with its army. Malta's army is dismantled within hours and y'all are raped into subservience. You have to understand that outsourcing weakens your own country and is a security risk, and libertarians who don't address will see their country disintegrate around them. (Another example: Malta outsources its army to tunisians because they're the best army for the lowest buck.... yeah, you can see where this is going)",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493389428 123177091,123226106,2017-04-28 14:29:22,">>123198501 Get out and starve, commie.",,Anonymous,thotsky.jpg,W8Cz7NiO7GR+ARKxI+2X8w==,SK,,1493389762 123177091,123226269,2017-04-28 14:30:41,">>123199001 Try again.",,Anonymous,rothbard exploitation.jpg,AiNOwdl2xEM1almb7MlI3A==,SK,,1493389841 123177091,123226371,2017-04-28 14:31:23,">>123225397 Wouldn't they just have to buy energy from another country while they their energy production capabilities working.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493389883 123177091,123226417,2017-04-28 14:31:42,">>123199717 I believe the correct term is ""spooks"" and you should relay your concerns to a certain milk shop owner.",,Anonymous,hoppe stirnerite.png,T0bcADJJosWBaK+WHKXoHw==,SK,,1493389902 123177091,123226661,2017-04-28 14:33:20,">>123200765 I can pay others to protect my shit.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390000 123177091,123226794,2017-04-28 14:34:14,>posting traps on /lrg/,,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1493390054 123177091,123226836,2017-04-28 14:34:35,">>123201128 You mean the same way you stole ""liberal"" for yourselves? Really activates the almonds.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390075 123177091,123227105,2017-04-28 14:36:40,">>123177091 >2017 >falling for Jewish subversives against Catholic social teaching",,Anonymous,GKC_1922_Web.jpg,Li3QgJhn886vtkH42vBk1w==,US,,1493390200 123177091,123227163,2017-04-28 14:37:06,">>123201899 Jesus, George, leave the logo to the good goys. Otherwise, yeah, interesting concept. It will quickly become obsolete because muh space travel, but interesting nonetheless.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390226 123177091,123227331,2017-04-28 14:38:06,">>123202042 So what? I don't subject others to my rule... unless they wish to take my shit, in which case I'mma take their organs and sell them on the black market.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390286 123177091,123227436,2017-04-28 14:39:05,">>123202104 I will respect it and so will the other guy with whom I make the agreements. Anyone else is irrelevant and of no consequence.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390345 123177091,123227501,2017-04-28 14:39:41,So I've been wondering... What do you guys think of transhumanism? Is it another scheme by the Jew to take away our freedoms or is it genuine innovation which will usher in a new prosperous age of superhuman abilities and comfort?,,Anonymous,Futuristic City Wallpapers HD 10 2560x1440.jpg,C0W1U6hxHz7bYx0fVZpD3A==,PT,,1493390381 123177091,123227524,2017-04-28 14:39:52,">>123202443 Morality is objective, you dimwit. Besides, people of too different beliefs will disassociate for the sake of their own well-being.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390392 123177091,123227549,2017-04-28 14:40:07,">>123222821 It's just not business efficient. No company will ever insure a person that keeps bringing in conflicts just like no car insurance will ever give insurance to someone who keeps crashing his car. The running costs of such conflict-inducing attitude would literally make this person/company handicapped in the free market. You're wealthy, you have a properly run business that is generating a lot of good for society, what exactly would be the incentive not to settle a dispute with all the backlash that this would incur?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493390407 123177091,123227696,2017-04-28 14:41:23,">>123203162 Jared Taylor. Probably minarchist, very ethno-nationalist. You're /ourgoy/, as far as I'm concerned.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390483 123177091,123228036,2017-04-28 14:44:12,">>123205367 The Law by Bastiat. Basic Economics by Sowell. Anything by Hoppe - his philosophy can apply to minarchism as well.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390652 123177091,123228073,2017-04-28 14:44:26,">>123205367 Reactionary Liberty: The Libertarian Counter-Revolution by Robert Taylor. /ourguy/ Hoppe recommended it himself.",,Anonymous,reactionary liberty.png,ILJQlodNgOd8kFn6a8eXYA==,PT,,1493390666 123177091,123228161,2017-04-28 14:45:05,">>123207477 Who cares lmao They should have shown up at Berkeley to get beat up by Chopstickman.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390705 123177091,123228178,2017-04-28 14:45:10,What's the long-term goal of a libertarian/an-cap? I can't decide whether I would like to have a family or not since everything is going to belong to the kikes soon.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493390710 123177091,123228390,2017-04-28 14:46:46,">>123216301 Shut up, Anarchyball. Minarchists are friends, not food.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390806 123177091,123228699,2017-04-28 14:49:14,">>123227549 A sufficiently wealthy person will have their own private armies. ""Insurance"" doesn't matter for them. Or maybe they are the actual owner of the all-powerful insurance company in the first place. For insurance companies to have the kind of power you keep describing, the owners of such entities would have to be phenomenally wealthy individuals. Either way, nobody is going to step up and risk their lives to defend the property rights of poor peasants. It simply won't happen. It would be just like in pre-Revolution france where nobles would trample over peasant crops while chasing foxes on horseback.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493390954 123177091,123228711,2017-04-28 14:49:20,">>123228178 Not if you don't sell it to them, duh.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493390960 123177091,123228914,2017-04-28 14:50:49,">>123228073 >Recommended: Learning to fly helicopters.",,Anonymous,cryinglaughing.jpg,fKNsnjQ10LcXHBan6mA1eQ==,CA,,1493391049 123177091,123229082,2017-04-28 14:52:07,"How would an An-Cap society prevent cooperations or companies from damaging the environment, spreading pollution?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1493391127 123177091,123229194,2017-04-28 14:52:55,">>123227524 >Morality is objective",,Anonymous,1491007571768.jpg,bzq6gX1OXB5qnFgSnY8DWA==,US,,1493391175 123177091,123229248,2017-04-28 14:53:28,">>123229082 Property rights extend to your body and to the property you own. Since everything is privatized, people could sue companies for infringing on their rights by polluting their property, either bodies or physical spaces.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493391208 123177091,123229362,2017-04-28 14:54:24,>>123188516,,Anonymous,it says you're a faggot.jpg,LQJcucVjnKnJx20uuOp3yQ==,US,,1493391264 123177091,123229469,2017-04-28 14:55:18,">>123229248 And what if a corporation pollutes on land that that they own? Who stops them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493391318 123177091,123229545,2017-04-28 14:55:50,">>123177251 Top kek",,Anonymous,1492817298872.jpg,PfifO/bUagNvvCMI+EDj5Q==,CA,,1493391350 123177091,123229850,2017-04-28 14:58:16,">>123227501 >What do you guys think of transhumanism? Shit scares me desu. Corporations having power over your body? Fug dat.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493391496 123177091,123229971,2017-04-28 14:59:15,">>123228914 Fucking lel",,Anonymous,1489170025878.jpg,y5WXHoFVXIox9wHAxgj7DA==,GB,,1493391555 123177091,123230169,2017-04-28 15:00:57,">>123198501 Anarcho-communism is an oxymoron you moron. You are going to need a government to ensure equal distribution of goods and to make sure that people don't get sick of your rules and decide that they want to own property and keep their profits. How fucking dumb are you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493391657 123177091,123230456,2017-04-28 15:03:06,">>123177147 >no mention of Mill",,Anonymous,9780486421308.jpg,ltk0C0Ee0GKBZPIdnmYjHA==,US,,1493391786 123177091,123230708,2017-04-28 15:05:17,"ATTN COMMIE: Lay one finger on me or my shit and I will fucking kill you. Clear enough?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493391917 123177091,123230833,2017-04-28 15:06:19,">>123177091 >not being ancap Sad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493391979 123177091,123231323,2017-04-28 15:10:29,"Hello I am a fascist as of now, however, I may be interested in learning about and possibly becoming a libertarian. The biggest hurdle I currently face is that I believe the average person is not deserving of liberty or freedom. Can I hear some arguments as to why I am wrong, or why I should think otherwise. Thanks my dudes.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493392229 123177091,123231835,2017-04-28 15:14:45,">>123229469 If the land is adjacent to another person's land, and that land as a result loses value, there could be arrangements depending on who was there first. If not, then the land the company is on becomes degraded and loses value, end of story.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493392485 123177091,123232127,2017-04-28 15:17:14,"I'm writing an essay for my collage about political ideologies and more specifically AnCap. My core argument is that authoritarian or any other state dependent systems are doomed to failed due to egoism, corruption and tyranny. That would make only right and bottom ideologies of the political compass viable as long term societies. Is there anything else I should add?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1493392634 123177091,123232351,2017-04-28 15:19:03,">>123227105 Yes yes follow the Bible and be good goy",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493392743 123177091,123232758,2017-04-28 15:22:11,">>123231835 >If not, then the land the company is on becomes degraded and loses value, end of story. Wrong, if the company that owns the land never tells anybody else about the pollution, then the land's market value is not degraded. If they can sell the land before anybody figures out what happened, they're in the clear. In real-life, there are regulations that would require the seller of land to disclose this information. However, there are no regulations in ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493392931 123177091,123232790,2017-04-28 15:22:25,">>123231323 freedom => ability to fail fore example think of removing welfare, how much of the lowest class people would simply not be sustainable to exist in the system",,Anonymous,2headed-snake.jpg,1lQv45e73vqjuTlk8sYs8w==,RO,,1493392945 123177091,123232845,2017-04-28 15:22:53,">>123227501 I don't like it. I'm all for technological and scientific advancement but not at the expense of our natural environment",,Anonymous,1493050906541.jpg,saRnfFaux15j8RwEEFQfug==,CA,,1493392973 123177091,123233111,2017-04-28 15:24:59,">>123232758 Many ways of knowing whether or not the land is polluted. >However, there are no regulations in ancapistan. Wrong, the NAP is the primal regulation, and all others stem from it.",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1493393099 123177091,123233561,2017-04-28 15:27:33,">>123228914 nice",,Anonymous,nice.jpg,RgiM9xe+IZeOZStIi0Yt6A==,GB,,1493393253 123177091,123233573,2017-04-28 15:27:37,">>123232790 Isn't that a net societal positive though? You have someone who is a leech on society and they will eventually die if they are cut off.",,Not a faggot,,,CA,,1493393257 123177091,123233632,2017-04-28 15:28:03,Can anyone point me at the Hoppe lecture where he talked about communists disguising themselves as libertarians? Sorry that's a vague request but I've listened to a lot of lectures and I'm providing it for a friend.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493393283 123177091,123233749,2017-04-28 15:29:00,">>123232790 That is, however, an interesting way to look at the idea of freedom, I appreciate the new perspective.",,Not a faggot,,,CA,,1493393340 123177091,123233859,2017-04-28 15:29:59,">>123233632 Perhaps this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4 or this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvsEYmPKbF4 but I'd put my bet on the former",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1493393399 123177091,123233995,2017-04-28 15:31:06,">>123233111 >Many ways of knowing whether or not the land is polluted. Not if you don't have full access to land until after you've bought it. You won't know about the buried containers of nuclear waste until years later, and at that point it is your problem.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493393466 123177091,123234044,2017-04-28 15:31:30,">>123232127 Read Rothbards anatomy of the state, link here >>123177185",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493393490 123177091,123234269,2017-04-28 15:33:20,">>123233859 Thank you very much, it was the first one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493393600 123177091,123234448,2017-04-28 15:34:50,">>123232127 >Is there anything else I should add? Add a bit of argumentation ethics: Libertarianism is the only logical solution because it incorporates into itself the ""a prior of argumentation"" (we own our bodies to argue with each other, which is an indicator for the desire of peaceful cooperation instead of violence, and since the state resorts on violence it is illegitimate, etc, etc.)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493393690 123177091,123235718,2017-04-28 15:45:59,,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493394359 123177091,123236507,2017-04-28 15:52:59,"Can't work out if stuff like this helps us or not. http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/04/28/milo-yiannopoulos-gets-12m-to-build-a-touring-company-for-alt-right?via=desktop&source=copyurl >“I’m doing the same thing, but instead of signing up with Live Nation, I’m building one. I’m building it for libertarian and conservative comedians, writers, stand-up comics, intellectuals, you name it.”",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493394779 123177091,123236706,2017-04-28 15:54:45,">>123236507 If you look good yourself and know libertarianism pretty well the best thing we can do is use our knowledge to red pill other people in schools, universities, arrange debates, etc.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1493394885 123177091,123237303,2017-04-28 15:59:57,">>123236706 I like to think both, I really should get more involved outside of /pol/. Oh well, this is my home for years now. See the thread yesterday about peoples fucking Mums visiting this board now? Mostly >americans caught up in the Trump stuff, but quite interesting nonetheless. I reckon the poster/lurker ratio has changed in the recent year dramatically.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493395197 123177091,123238818,2017-04-28 16:12:43,">A decentralized culture with strong communal bonds, families, and non-state institutions is much harder, if not impossible, to control and impose statism upon. The classic, Thomistic concept of liberty recognizes that civilization cannot exist if responsibility and freedom are not intertwined. Huxley’s world of atomized individuals and instant gratification is a dystopian setting for a reason. Until we can achieve political separation, libertarians, then, must be the constant whiteblood cells against the viruses of egalitarianism and Cultural Marxism that seek to weaken the cultural immune system necessary for liberty, civilization, and private property to exist. Politics is always downstream of culture, which is why a defense of Western culture—which has provided the necessary institutional framework for liberty to be possible—is so important. Reactionary Liberty: The Libertarian Counter-Revolution – Robert Taylor",,Anonymous,Robert Taylor.jpg,HzGMViCxd008CS2gfuqArw==,BR,,1493395963 123177091,123239378,2017-04-28 16:17:50,">>123238818 >Politics is always downstream of culture, which is why a defense of Western culture—which has provided the necessary institutional framework for liberty to be possible—is so important. Looks like we're best of sticking with the Fascists for a short-while then.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493396270 123177091,123241187,2017-04-28 16:34:09,">>123177091 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/27/opinion/do-sweatshops-lift-workers-out-of-poverty.html Remind me again why toiling in a dangerous factory is better than living a quiet life on a farm in a small village?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493397249 123177091,123242140,2017-04-28 16:41:59,">>123241187 It has to be grounded in education (or lack, thereof, of other ways to make a living)...how did we get to a point where individuals wished to live their lives out in such a matter? It is madness, that unless these people are deeply religious, or have children before they enter the factory, that for their one chance in life they wish to spend it there?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493397719 123177091,123242513,2017-04-28 16:44:44,">>123238818 >With floating abstractions and ever-changing goal posts, the Left seeks to expand state power and will use any means at their disposal in order to do so. After political Marxism and communism were proven to be economic disasters—creating famines, starvation, gulags, and piling up millions of corpses—their focus shifted on subverting traditional Western culture. Karl Marx’s disciples quickly became cultural Marxists, creating the weaponized language of political correctness as a virus to attack Western civilization’s anti-communist, traditionalist immune system. For the reactionary libertarian, this requires an uncompromising opposition to this cultural Marxism—a counter-revolution against the perpetual revolution of Leftism. Individuals are different from another, and not equal; we live in an unavoidably tribal world; men and are not women and women are not men; freedom is both a responsibility and a right; democracy must be de-legitimized, but if we are to live in a democratic society, then the franchise should be severely limited. These insights into the human condition—including a complete rejection of egalitarianism—form the foundation for a consistent, coherent, and forceful philosophy of liberty. from the book. https://youtu.be/YvsEYmPKbF4?t=29m30s And Hoppe talking about moral degeneration in the US.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1493397884 123319696,123319696,2017-04-29 06:16:23,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - HELICOPTER DEATH SQUAD EDITION,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1493446583 123319696,123319748,2017-04-29 06:17:07,Does a ghost haunting my house violate my property rights?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493446627 123319696,123319757,2017-04-29 06:17:19,,,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1493446639 123319696,123319779,2017-04-29 06:17:34,jews are the master race am i right /lrg/,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493446654 123319696,123319838,2017-04-29 06:18:27,">>123319748 spooks are not welcome on my property. >>123319779 they're pretty high up there in intelligence i guess.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493446707 123319696,123319882,2017-04-29 06:18:59,">>123319757 most of these 404'd",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493446739 123319696,123319910,2017-04-29 06:19:21,,,Anonymous,Race.png,JwzjRQVNCEC8rcgk/IJN/A==,US,,1493446761 123319696,123319945,2017-04-29 06:19:52,,,Anonymous,Mises2.png,0nNBH+NXjEZesk1yVzny3A==,US,,1493446792 123319696,123320021,2017-04-29 06:21:03,">>123319748 There's not a ghost haunting your house.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1493446863 123319696,123320026,2017-04-29 06:21:06,"I see, I'll find new links. thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493446866 123319696,123320114,2017-04-29 06:22:55,"In ancient times weren't socialist concepts like sharing, looking after the vulnerable etc required to create society? Not a bait question, genuinely curious.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493446975 123319696,123320182,2017-04-29 06:23:56,">>123320114 There's nothing about libertarianism that discourages letting other people use your property or helping out other people.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1493447036 123319696,123320255,2017-04-29 06:25:07,>Libertarian right,,Anonymous,1481990550568.jpg,wPZv+LwhFgq0cDn9t0kHHw==,CA,,1493447107 123319696,123320404,2017-04-29 06:27:36,">>123320182 Ok but most of the libertarian stuff i see on the internet is just about how no one else deserves anything and it's only up to the individual to get by.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493447256 123319696,123320418,2017-04-29 06:27:47,">>123320114 No capitalist is opposed to sharing, volintary collectivism and so on. Just look at a typical party or social gathering where everyone brings some food, drinks or whatever and they pool their resources together VOLUNTARILY without being forced to share. >>123320255 I agree with Hans-Hermann Hoppe and the elder Murray Rothbard that libertarianism is a RIGHT WING movement, and that our leftist elements are useful idiots at best, and a cancer that can only be cured by one way helicopter rides at the far more likely worst.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1493447267 123319696,123320549,2017-04-29 06:29:58,">>123320255 >believing people can own property and that it's wrong to violate other people is about fitting in >>123320404 Libertarianism is about voluntary - as opposed in involuntary - relations between people, which is a principle that maximizes people's freedom within a moral boundary. It says nothing whatsoever about what you need value beyond that. You can be as altruistic as you might be and still be a libertarian - I'd consider myself a libertarian with incredibly altruistic values.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1493447398 123319696,123320693,2017-04-29 06:32:32,">>123320418 You're fucking cringey. >>123320549 >believing people can own property and that it's wrong to violate other people is about fitting in Trying to rebrand it as something hardcore and edgy is.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493447552 123319696,123320806,2017-04-29 06:34:08,">>123320693 Oh, you mean like the ""lel commies and helicopters xD"" people like OP? Yeah I agree with you.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1493447648 123319696,123321447,2017-04-29 06:43:37,">>123320693 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_toYr_Hcdo&t=1s This is why I present libertarianism they way I do, it disgusts me what this movement has been perverted into. this is not the message of Murray Rothbard, this is leftism, egalitarian bullshit. ""Libertarian"" politicians including Ron Paul recruit heavily from the left and present libertarianism in a way that appeals to them. THIS MUST END. all things leftist are incompatible with the concept of freedom.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1493448217 123319696,123321630,2017-04-29 06:46:02,does this mean I fit in here?,,Anonymous,muh free market.png,AMNXEceoVRNikY45yytjyg==,PT,,1493448362 123319696,123321710,2017-04-29 06:47:15,">>123321630 you're cool with me.",,Anonymous,Thumbs up.png,1xrQED6+FM/hRdCRFO4NzQ==,US,,1493448435 123319696,123321787,2017-04-29 06:48:21,">>123321447 Neither Hoppe nor Rothbard believe in thought-aggression dipshit. People holding a view about things does not aggression make - it doesn't matter what that view is. If someone sits in a square and rants about how he's gonna kill you and your mother but never raises a weapon or even approaches you, he's not committing aggression, and you're not justified in using violence against him.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1493448501 123319696,123321887,2017-04-29 06:49:42,">>123319838 Well what if the ghost were there before I moved in Would I be violated his or her property rights? Should ghosts even be allowed to own property?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493448582 123319696,123322007,2017-04-29 06:51:32,">>123321787 ok, Then I'm going to rant on while holding a gun about how im going to fucking kill you and your family and you can't do anything about it untill i pull the trigger against your childrens head. Coercion is threat, Threating to destroy/steal property is coercion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493448692 123319696,123322162,2017-04-29 06:54:02,">>123321887 Tell that dead faggot to beat it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493448842 123319696,123322292,2017-04-29 06:55:53,">>123322007 You go ahead and do that - force isn't justified against people who don't initiate force. I'll die for moral principle - that a weak, spineless, unprincipled hack who fantasizes about murder won't doesn't surprise anyone.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1493448953 123319696,123322538,2017-04-29 06:59:27,">>123322292 Leave it to a namefag Redditor to engage in pacifistic thought, good luck. I hope turning the other cheek works out for you but I seriously doubt it. Non aggression is useless without defense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493449167 123319696,123322892,2017-04-29 07:05:07,">>123322538 That you think that slippery slope bullshit of speech and thought crimes can have any validity in rational argument philosophically fucks you. You're no better than the leftist, who can just claim right back that you saying or thinking some way is grounds to assault and murder you. You can take your relativistic ""might makes right"" edgy and irrational dipshittery and go spew it at antifa rallies - they're more your kind of people.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1493449507 123319696,123323106,2017-04-29 07:08:25,">>123319696 So, what are we gonna do about the pope?",,Anonymous,dayofropewhen?.png,xgwurHelZmGej8/0B5qH7Q==,AU,,1493449705 123319696,123323204,2017-04-29 07:09:58,"What is going on with That Guy T? He's not shitposting, he's firing shit in all directions.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1493449798 123319696,123323532,2017-04-29 07:15:23,">>123323204 He got a job as a journalist.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493450123 123319696,123323651,2017-04-29 07:16:53,">>123322892 I don't care for your thought crime analogy, to threaten person or property IS coercion by definition. Might does not make right, but defense does. I'll weep for you when you're being treaded on.",,Anonymous,hsm__101_.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1493450213 123319696,123323745,2017-04-29 07:18:15,">>123323106 >trusting Argentines >ever this is what happens",,Anonymous,Pinochet absolutely disgusting.jpg,oKmken4tXcrRwhq90gnULA==,PT,,1493450295 123319696,123324166,2017-04-29 07:24:57,">>123320021 Are you implying ghosts aren't real?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493450697 123319696,123324340,2017-04-29 07:27:50,"Reminder that if you DO NOT PAY my the stair toll to use my privately owned staircase, you are VIOLATING THE NAP and you will be punished SEVERELY.",,Shiro Poster,1484078868608.webm,uBbaM5yPLOLmP+J7698+mw==,US,,1493450870 123319696,123324743,2017-04-29 07:35:01,">>123324340 That's what the fucking gook gets for not paying.",,Anonymous,IMG_0653.jpg,ASSggPu/OjgWO5pihKEcqg==,AU,,1493451301 123319696,123324855,2017-04-29 07:36:45,">>123324166 No but they can go fuck themselves. Stand your ground, tell that spook to fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493451405 123319696,123325227,2017-04-29 07:42:57,,,Anonymous,1491774328231_0.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1493451777 123319696,123325451,2017-04-29 07:46:36,">>123325227 >suit jacket with jeans That's a clear violation of the non-aggression principle.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493451996 123319696,123325638,2017-04-29 07:49:46,">>123325451 Well what are you going to do about it?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493452186 123319696,123325681,2017-04-29 07:50:25,">>123325451 Kek, is Alex Jones a bad guy then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493452225 123319696,123325739,2017-04-29 07:51:16,">>123321447 >it's not REAL libertarianism unless it's my specific form of it guys xDddd Yet another way libertardians are paralleled with marxists. Autistic ideologies.",,Anonymous,1492445874011.png,/TJL/5JLkMUf1YycnTbzfg==,GB,,1493452276 123319696,123325760,2017-04-29 07:51:35,">>123325638 Post on 4chan about it. >>123325681 You say that as if there are people who unironically like Alex Jones.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493452295 123319696,123325910,2017-04-29 07:53:53,">>123322007 There's a difference between talking about something, and actually doing it. If someone was holding a gun, and talking about killing you. Then pointed the gun at you, you had probable cause to believe he will take your life. As such killing him would not violate the NAP. But what you suggest; killing all Marxians/statists/etc, would most definitely violate the NAP, as they aren't participating in any violence. But as they almost certainly will in the future violate the NAP. Physically removing them from society, as in kicking them off your private property, would be beneficial, and would not violate the NAP. >>123323106 Pray he's officially branded as a heretic.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493452433 123319696,123325966,2017-04-29 07:54:43,">>123325760 >You say that as if there are people who unironically like Alex Jones. :^)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493452483 123319696,123326059,2017-04-29 07:55:58,">>123325910 >difference between talking about something and actually doing it Right, so commies CAN'T be thrown from helicopters for their beliefs. Got it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493452558 123319696,123326276,2017-04-29 07:59:01,">>123326059 Exactly; unless they come back to your property after you remove them, then it's free game.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493452741 123319696,123326390,2017-04-29 08:00:37,Is it true that the ideal ancap system will never work without a population average IQ of 110+? Are we stuck with authoritarian nanny states for now because the average person can't be trusted to behave themselves?,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1493452837 123319696,123326459,2017-04-29 08:01:46,">>123326059 Sure they can. You just have to pay for the helicopter fuel yourself. I don't care what you say, pursuing the end of property is aggression and will be dealt with",,Anonymous,The_Humane_thing_to_do.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1493452906 123319696,123326602,2017-04-29 08:04:16,">>123326459 Helicopters seem like a really inefficient way of getting rid of them. You should be drowning them via semi-submersibles",,Anonymous,Blue-Marlin-e1431808251116.jpg,mdzyL5ghUxPSJulWc9NvdQ==,AU,,1493453056 123319696,123326619,2017-04-29 08:04:37,">>123326390 Ashkenazis confirmed for the ideal ancap ethnicity.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1493453077 123319696,123327073,2017-04-29 08:10:46,">>123324340 Story behind this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493453446 123319696,123327115,2017-04-29 08:11:16,">>123325966 LIZARD PEOPLE ARE TAKING AWAY OUR GUNS AND TEACHING OUR CHILDREN ORIENTAL PERVERSIONS",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493453476 123319696,123327300,2017-04-29 08:13:52,">>123327115 >implying that's not true",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493453632 123319696,123327976,2017-04-29 08:23:37,">>123326602 When you drop them off from a heli you can hear their beautiful screams, when drown them you can't.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493454217 123319696,123328326,2017-04-29 08:28:26,">>123321630 Yes, welcome aboard. We'll provide you with reading material and some helicopter images. >>123321710 CUTE.",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1493454506 123319696,123328473,2017-04-29 08:30:21,">>123322007 If the threat is imminent and tangible, people are allowed to hurt you for it. But if you just stay on a sidewalk ranting about how you'll murder everyone on a future date, the maximum thing that can be done to you is expulsion from the place you're at. Only if you actually whip out a weapon can people shoot you on sight.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493454621 123319696,123329426,2017-04-29 08:43:15,,,Anonymous,1491851652845.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,GB,,1493455395 123319696,123330678,2017-04-29 08:59:02,Bump. I hope everyone is having a comfy Saturday.,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag_0.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1493456342 123319696,123331163,2017-04-29 09:04:47,">>123327300 This.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493456687 123319696,123331234,2017-04-29 09:05:28,,,Anonymous,Hoppe quote.jpg,oODt2L5Psj5PFgc04lpqfg==,AU,,1493456728 123319696,123331982,2017-04-29 09:14:33,">>123331234 Badass quote, thanks Emubro.",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1493457273 123319696,123332362,2017-04-29 09:19:00,">>123327115 ironically spouting truth, pol wins when we subvert our enemies into saying our own truths",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493457540 123319696,123333089,2017-04-29 09:29:25,">>123331982 kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493458165 123319696,123333520,2017-04-29 09:34:12,">>123319696 GOD BLESS YOU BRO",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1493458452 123319696,123333863,2017-04-29 09:38:29,">>123321787 Bullshit, I'd wipe that faggot off the face of the earth and be totally in line with the NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493458709 123319696,123334432,2017-04-29 09:45:13,">>123333520 May the day of the removal come soon. There can be no tolerance towards communists and Democrats in a free society, my brother.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493459113 123319696,123335749,2017-04-29 10:01:08,">>123330678 I am but I need to do some revision. Lacking the motivation and browsing /pol/ and watching Jordan Peterson videos instead.",,Anonymous,check em.png,a0MepQNWpK+ksQ9fSimWYg==,GB,,1493460068 123319696,123337809,2017-04-29 10:26:12,"Any small human activity the local bowls club or the luncheon ladies required for survival a measure of self sacrifice and service on part of the members. In a wider national sphere the survival of the nation depends basically on the loyalty and self sacrifice of the citizens. During the strong period, glory and honour are principal objects of ambition to the merchant such ideas are empty words which add nothing to the bank balance. There does not appear to be any doubt that money is the agent which causes a decline of the strong brave and confident people. The first direction in which wealth injures the nation is a moral one. Money replaces honour and adventure as the objective of the best young men, moreover men do not normally seek to make money for their country or their community but for themselves. Gradually and almost inconceivable this takes place. The object of the young and ambitious is no longer fame,honour or service but money. Education undergoes the same gradual transformation no longer do schools aim at producing brave patriots ready to serve their country parents and students alike seek qualifications which will command the highest salaries. >Libertarians right >Libertarians patriots >Libertarians moral Libertarians and Ancaps are neo kikes only caring for greed and self centered issues much like the Jew. They are money worshipping kikes which derserve to ironically be dropped like the traitors they are to the nation.",,Anonymous,OISAsy.jpg,vo19L/oTu/M0br9PL+UT3g==,AU,,1493461572 123319696,123338720,2017-04-29 10:36:12,,,Anonymous,1491840075588.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,GB,,1493462172 123319696,123339476,2017-04-29 10:44:52,">>123337809 Eat shit enjoy your ""not really socialism"" socialism. Get a job, you fashy side shave haircut manlet.",,Anonymous,Socialism.jpg,ljjd9De3PfwKVpQ0db6hUQ==,US,,1493462692 123319696,123340637,2017-04-29 10:57:34,">>123339476 Enjoy your boy fucking minorities and jews Duh free market will elimate pornography,drugs,prostitution,homosexuals,transexuals,liberals,communists,weak men,jews,invading countries,corporate corruption,millitary company take overs and exploitation. As long as everyone can stop being human and become anachist just like how communism can change human nature. Anarchism always works because putting some non aggresion pact in fixes everything and changes human nature. It's so simple the communists should of just done that. 70 posts Page 7 Pathetic ideology, being pushed by a small discord of retards with the absolute worst memes unimaginable. Even communist memes have more humour .",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493463454 123319696,123341404,2017-04-29 11:05:35,">>123340637 Oy vey, socialism gets rid of degenercy I promise. I hope your future wife is having a train run on her by a pack of aboriginal niggers. Again, get a job and you'll have a new perspective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493463935 123319696,123342030,2017-04-29 11:12:41,"Friendly reminded: Your poltical ideology is completely impotent in all western nations; the media laughs at you and your very few reps in government; You are all at the mercy of ever increasing commies and marxist in your institutions; The US gov has completely shot on your blue-pilled cuckstitution whilst it forms an unelected 4th arm of government and spies on all of you.",,Anonymous,N01754_10.jpg,QY/TESvOEqhhR9lG4eK2nA==,AU,,1493464361 123319696,123342164,2017-04-29 11:14:08,">>123342030 Also degraded your borders and turn the US into a giant Brasil.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493464448 123319696,123342448,2017-04-29 11:17:23,">>123320114 There's a difference between voluntary generosity and state-legislated, forced collectivization. Cool strawman, though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493464643 123319696,123342540,2017-04-29 11:18:26,">>123341404 >Anarchists >working Come back when you get a job and can think Antifa. Pornography and drugs would thrive in ancap. But of course not there would be private funded right wing death squads able to pick a potential communist and drug addict out of a crowd then kill him and drugs and porn would vanish over night. Millions of non whites would dissapear into thin air, as well as globalist forces both internal and external. Everyone would own a small buisness and attend church because degenerates simply won't exist because free market. Say it with me anarcho capitlism You see that word Anarcho it stands for anarchism. Your literally on antifa levels of delusion",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493464706 123319696,123342593,2017-04-29 11:19:06,">>123319757 Murray N. Rothbard - Ethics of Liberty",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493464746 123319696,123342794,2017-04-29 11:21:17,">>123342030 >>123342164 cool",,Anonymous,file.png,lPnd1WyJuSzlvd5Vlgajjg==,GB,,1493464877 123319696,123342848,2017-04-29 11:21:52,">>123327073 He didn't pay the stair toll.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493464912 123319696,123342879,2017-04-29 11:22:16,">>123322292 >I'll die for moral principle You're such a fucking idiot it can hardly be verbalized. Your retarded brand of self-sacrificial ""libertarianism"" will die with you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493464936 123319696,123343654,2017-04-29 11:29:58,">>123342540 Get a fucking job and DO SOMETHING you fags are all talk. You even Admit you didn't kill those 6 million. You're no better than feminists bitching about muh victimhood. Take a fucking stand for your beliefs for once in your life instead of sperging out at strangers on the Internet. Get a gun and start removing Jews or shit the fuck up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493465398 123319696,123344615,2017-04-29 11:40:17,">>123343654 Anarchism capitlism Anarchism communism Anarchism Obviously one of these just hasn't had a chance to become the worlds number one nation free of the big bad goverment the evil evil taxman and his parents morals. Say it with me >Anarchism works",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493466017 123319696,123344828,2017-04-29 11:42:33,">>123343654 >>123344615 Just remember it's not Anarchism because normal anarchism and communist anachism ended in the deaths of millions. It wasn't capitlism anachism so of course it didn't work.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493466153 123319696,123344855,2017-04-29 11:42:58,">>123340637 >pornography,drugs,prostitution,homosexuals,transexuals,liberals,communists,weak men >anarchists and communists are trying to change human nature >the government will change human nature!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493466178 123319696,123345199,2017-04-29 11:46:40,">>123342030 How does that not also apply to you?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493466400 123319696,123345286,2017-04-29 11:47:30,">>123344855 Your right lets stop the state force feeding us morals. Lets live like animals, fuck not raping people that's just the goverment imposing it's morals and laws on me.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493466450 123319696,123345950,2017-04-29 11:54:13,haha i remember that one time when this general wasn't full of leafstrayans,,Anonymous,1487159297592.jpg,q9hriAWHi4C+S8XKGYeIKw==,TR,,1493466853 123319696,123346157,2017-04-29 11:56:15,">>123345286 Do you understand what right-anarchism is? We believe in the existence of both moral laws and justice. We just don't believe that they should be administrated by an arbitrary authority that uses democracy as a front for taking our money. I find it funny that you criticise us for not supporting civil morality when it's clearly a Saturday night and you're drunk.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493466975 123319696,123346579,2017-04-29 12:00:20,">>123319696 Why can't libertarians rationally explain why their system is better without resorting to ""muh feels"" arguments?",,Anonymous,1493174552285.png,GlLzQT4r+XKyREzIDrkhTQ==,US,,1493467220 123319696,123346610,2017-04-29 12:00:39,">>123327073 Some fool didn't pay the mandatory stair toll and tried to sneak past the check point, which is a level 3 violation of the NAP.",,Shiro Poster,1492857911363.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1493467239 123319696,123346752,2017-04-29 12:02:02,">>123346579 I get to keep my guns and don't get taxed to hell to pay for a 1.5 trillion dollar meme plane and fund terrosists group abroad.",,Shiro Poster,,,US,,1493467322 123319696,123346817,2017-04-29 12:02:46,">>123346157 >We believe in the existence of both moral laws and justice Who creates and enforces such laws if there is no government?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493467366 123319696,123346940,2017-04-29 12:04:02,">>123346752 >Abolish the military to lower taxes >China takes over and bans all guns Didn't think that one through now did you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493467442 123319696,123347143,2017-04-29 12:06:10,">>123346940 Why the fuck would China want to spend billions of dollars waging an unwinnable war against 300 million heavily armed Americans instead of just playing merchant as always? Snap out of your meme dream kid.",,Shiro Poster,1493461059826.png,V4RqKZjhdXBZxeMPyu3GKQ==,US,,1493467570 123319696,123347245,2017-04-29 12:07:10,">>123346157 Anachism morals Oh please morals come from society. Show me natrual morals. Oh right if we go off natrual morals we're having orgies,killing eachother and other tribal trash. Society sets and enforces what morals are to be followed. If you were born in Arabia you would behead gays If you were born in Sweden you are the gay",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493467630 123319696,123347563,2017-04-29 12:10:04,">>123347143 Yeah dude, no country would ever want to be become more powerful geo-politically. That's absurd!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493467804 123319696,123347677,2017-04-29 12:11:16,">>123347143 >You rpaid merc army gets paid more by the Chinese gov and they turn on your killing you and freeing your child-slaves and underage girl harem",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493467876 123319696,123347810,2017-04-29 12:12:36,">>123347245 >relative morality Being a cuck must be an abstract feeling",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493467956 123319696,123347935,2017-04-29 12:13:44,">>123347245 If the government suddenly disappears and you find a fully functional machine gun with a fuckton of ammo, would you just get out and mow down everyone you see?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1493468024 123319696,123348121,2017-04-29 12:15:18,">>123347563 If you honestly believe it's in China's best interest to invade the US and wage a multi billion dollar war with its #1 customer you need to drink some of my patented McBleach now with 20% more kys >>123347677 >mercs wanting to work for people that will literally destroy them and their way of life the moment the war is over >ever trusting the chinese",,Shiro Poster,1493455300970.jpg,0QOXhCZCA3x9//6hFmtA1g==,US,,1493468118 123319696,123348142,2017-04-29 12:15:29,">>123347935 No i would create a group of like minded individuals and fucking take your property",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493468129 123319696,123348347,2017-04-29 12:17:15,">>123347677 Shut up merc armies are always 100% loyal. reeeeeee >>123347810 Can you prove me wrong? >If you were born a viking you go out looting and killing >If your an Aztec your sacrafice people to the Gods >If your a Sparten you throw inferior children off cliffs >If you were born a Papuan new Guinean you go out and eat people >If you were born a Hindu you put half your population as slave labor Morality comes from society and where you grew up",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493468235 123319696,123348550,2017-04-29 12:18:56,">>123348142 Neetsocs, everyone. > implying I would be alone and not with another group > implying a village can't outgun a bunch of retards on emus with only one MG",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1493468336 123319696,123348597,2017-04-29 12:19:17,">>123347935 A better question is: ""Do people remorselessly ruin the environment whenever there are there are no regulations in place to stop them?"" The answer is unambiguously: yes. >>123348121 >Do you honestly believe it is in China's best interest to eliminate their most serious geo-political rival Yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493468357 123319696,123348762,2017-04-29 12:20:50,">>123319757 Constitution of Liberty by Hayek is grade A material.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493468450 123319696,123348783,2017-04-29 12:21:08,">>123348597 The thing is that regulations don't stop people from shitting up the environment either. > proof: any forest near a road",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1493468468 123319696,123348844,2017-04-29 12:21:35,">>123348550 Suddenly your country is full of small scale warfare, and conflicts between rival security corporations and towns. Wow really gets the noggin going. Tank warfare between different cities is a legit thing which would happen in ancap society",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493468495 123319696,123348977,2017-04-29 12:22:52,">>123348783 Any Forest near a road for the first hundred meters in vs The Entire forest it's waterways and ground water",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493468572 123319696,123349014,2017-04-29 12:23:13,">>123321630 >97% ancap Oy vey",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493468593 123319696,123349158,2017-04-29 12:24:25,">>123348844 Nice strawman you got out there, how much for another? Did I ever say that I'm an ancap? >>123348977 > go out > take soil samples near any factory > get very surprised with 60% probability",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1493468665 123319696,123349192,2017-04-29 12:24:39,">>123348844 Sign me up",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493468679 123319696,123349207,2017-04-29 12:24:46,">>123348597 China is never going to war with the US ya dunce. They're a paper tiger that can barely keep the Shanghai exchange afloat",,Shiro Poster,,,US,,1493468686 123319696,123349248,2017-04-29 12:25:14,">>123346579 Libertarianism is based on objective morality. All of man's laws are either redundant or subjectively justified theft. Learn Natural Law you fucking pleb.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493468714 123319696,123349488,2017-04-29 12:27:21,">>123348347 Your perspective on what morality is based on your current culture,but that does not actually change morality itself. Just because people's views on morality change does not mean morality is the one changing. Due to human's limited senses they can never know for 100% certain about the reality around them, and will make errors when recognizing patterns within human behavior. Just because people didn't realize micro-organisms existed does not mean they did not exist until they where discovered.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493468841 123319696,123349709,2017-04-29 12:29:16,">>123346817 Well firstly, your question presupposes that the government does enforce moral laws. It doesn't and isn't able to. Government generally isn't able to regulate what people drink, eat, smoke or how they behave and live. Civil morality is always predominantly determined by culture. That is, social environment, heritage, religious beliefs, family values etc. Not only is government fundamentally incapable of enforcing morality, but it is also inclined to enforcing immorality. In Australia and America, some states enforce better moral laws than others. Many states do not successfully enforce moral laws or enforce immoral laws. It is the existence of government monopolisation that better states are unable to able to act with sovereignty. This would actually force governments to enforce moral laws more efficiently under the pressure of competition (other states have to compete for population and revenue without the assistance of a federal government). The more decentralised our society becomes, the more power is given to groups that can now segregate themselves from others. This is the course of action required to establish a moral society, by decentralising all political power and allowing groups to secede from the wider culture. A moral society will only be achieved by voluntary collectivisation and the efforts of culture.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493468956 123319696,123349755,2017-04-29 12:29:44,,,Anonymous,porco-espinho-renatofurtadocom-anarcocapitalista-ancap.png,v5Rvc0tKlGoIFifVZKNCtQ==,BR,,1493468984 123319696,123349957,2017-04-29 12:31:35,">>123346579 At the end of the day, preference is a black box which the government cannot see into. The only person who knows your desires is yourself, so why do you give money to the government and have only a small percentage of it ever come back to help you, directly or indirectly? Wouldn't it be better for you to keep that money and spend it on hentai or whatever rather than letting the government give it away to some golfing boomers?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493469095 123319696,123349974,2017-04-29 12:31:44,,,Anonymous,1491526523386.png,N1a+QThhl0g8UaoaMc+JEw==,US,,1493469104 123319696,123350046,2017-04-29 12:32:16,">>123349158 Two millitary companies disagree over something maybe who runs which town. No conclusion is reached. Open warfare Really great way to run your country. Libya would be proud imagine all the monkey wars which would take place. >When your wild monkey gets loose and assualts a school girl so warfare break out https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/21/monkey-attack-in-libya-sparks-tribal-clashes-that-kill-more-than-a-dozen >>123349488 Definition of morality Principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour. Sure people don't like being killed, but things like is cannablism bad, is murder justifiable,Abortions, drug use, homosexuals,pacfism. All change on where you were born and raised. By the very defintion morality changes where you are. If you grew up in Japan you bet your having different morals to the ones you have now",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493469136 123319696,123350304,2017-04-29 12:34:31,I never knew there are so many jews on pol.,,Anonymous,Ayn rand douche.jpg,cj/SL0ZXS6y95XRF2PoYDQ==,RO,,1493469271 123319696,123350408,2017-04-29 12:35:36,">>123350046 >another strawman I still support some minimal government to run courts, military and environment protection.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1493469336 123319696,123350585,2017-04-29 12:37:23,">>123320255 >Someone doesn't gets what libertarian means.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1493469443 123319696,123350598,2017-04-29 12:37:28,">>123347563 Any country wants to become more powerful, but they also need to consider the costs associated with that. China has no realistic chance of winning a war with the US, but both countries would be devastated afterwards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493469448 123319696,123350604,2017-04-29 12:37:31,">>123350304 Do as Jews do, not what Jews say. Jews are pulling off some insane reverse psychology shit on the nationalists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493469451 123319696,123350885,2017-04-29 12:40:12,">>123350304 >doesn't like Atlas Shrugged Those goddamn niggers keep leechin off our hard work. Lazy ass rotten subhumans! We should just quit creating jobs, that'd teach em a lesson.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493469612 123319696,123350994,2017-04-29 12:41:26,">>123321787 Uuum never heard of physical removal? He calls for anyone espousing ideology in conflict with private property ie. Democracy, socialism Communism etc to be removed from society. Which I wholeheartedly agree with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493469686 123319696,123351250,2017-04-29 12:44:21,">>123350604 But why should i act like vermin? Wouldn't it be better if we would just get rid of the vermin and their behaviour?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1493469861 123319696,123351355,2017-04-29 12:45:25,">>123349207 >China is never going to war with the US ya dunce. Yeah cause the USA has an extremely large, very powerful military to deter China and others from wanting to pick a fight with it. Without that military in place, China's behavior towards the US would change drastically. This is a consist problem with self-proclaimed ""libertarians."" They assume that nobody's behavior would change, even if all the rules and regulations that direct that behavior were completely removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493469925 123319696,123351520,2017-04-29 12:46:55,">>123323106 What we need to do about any other communist. Physical removal.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493470015 123319696,123351637,2017-04-29 12:47:48,>>123337809,,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1493470068 123319696,123351832,2017-04-29 12:49:32,">>123350598 >China has no realistic chance of winning a war with the US Because we have a military. But I'm sure that if all that just got defunded one day, everybody's behavior would stay the same. >>123350994 >Remove democracy from society Oh, boy, now we have a dictator. I'm sure he'll follow libertarian ideals and not trample on everybody else's freedom in order to secure his power.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493470172 123319696,123351878,2017-04-29 12:49:58,,,Anonymous,political objectives test 29 10 2016.png,WO4Y40dXKgwCgLXlayIqvA==,BE,,1493470198 123319696,123351911,2017-04-29 12:50:15,,,Anonymous,select smart polphil.png,QgSkQ4jsGCrethsz3V8pFg==,BE,,1493470215 123319696,123352134,2017-04-29 12:52:16,">>123351250 Top Jews hold themselves to incredibly high standards, and as they control the world they have knowledge beyond most goys. Stop being their slaves and use their knowledge for your people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493470336 123319696,123352214,2017-04-29 12:52:51,">>123351832 Who said anything about a dictator?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493470371 123319696,123352525,2017-04-29 12:55:57,">>123352214 The only logical result of removing democracy from society is a dictatorship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493470557 123319696,123352989,2017-04-29 13:00:25,">>123352525 >Non being an internal monarchist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493470825 123319696,123353211,2017-04-29 13:02:28,">>123352989 A monarchy would be a logical form of government for an ancap society, because ancap itself is feudalist in the nature to begin with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493470948 123319696,123353731,2017-04-29 13:06:59,">>123353211 Internal monarchy meaning self-Dictatorship. The logical end of ancap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493471219 123319696,123354263,2017-04-29 13:12:03,">>123353211 >government >ancap Nope. Monarchy may not be as bad as democracy but it is still inferior to private law societies.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493471523 123319696,123354540,2017-04-29 13:14:42,">>123354263 There is no such thing as a ""private law society"" therefore both democracy and monarchy are superior for the simple reason that they are actually existent. Just like how even Somalia is superior to Atlantis, for the simple reason that it actually is a real thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493471682 123319696,123355087,2017-04-29 13:20:17,>>123456789,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493472017 123319696,123355551,2017-04-29 13:24:51,">>123325739 >offering services asked for in exchenge for a fee =/= forcing a fee for services not asked for Mocking people for your inability to grasp abstract concepts is telling.",,Anonymous,useful idiots.jpg,SJPpQoc8gZCiGwPuuxLGpA==,DE,,1493472291 123319696,123355856,2017-04-29 13:27:57,">>123319696 Die scum.",,Anonymous,1485195839209s.jpg,RYqxUVk9jfVRMQ39CHCgcA==,NL,,1493472477 123319696,123356150,2017-04-29 13:30:45,>>123355856,,Anonymous,ant CIA.png,yYUhr/F7gSQ6BXUMiTpw2A==,PT,,1493472645 123319696,123356235,2017-04-29 13:31:39,bump,,Anonymous,IMG_0636.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,DE,,1493472699 123319696,123356248,2017-04-29 13:31:46,">>123355856 >t. ant",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493472706 123319696,123356445,2017-04-29 13:33:38,">>123346940 China couldnt invade the US even if there were no military. US armed population is far in exess of anything China can bring to the table. >t. studying china",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493472818 123319696,123356464,2017-04-29 13:33:45,">>123355856 your pic shows the reason why there are so much leftists you have the same definition and the mental capacity than an ant",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493472825 123319696,123357442,2017-04-29 13:42:22,">>123356445 >Dudes with semi-automatic rifles will stop an invasion force with helicopters, jets, tanks, etc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493473342 123319696,123357561,2017-04-29 13:43:21,">>123357442 *cough* Vietnam *cough*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493473401 123319696,123357660,2017-04-29 13:44:19,">>123357442 yep that's completely true see: vietnam or countless other events",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493473459 123319696,123359303,2017-04-29 13:58:43,">>123357561 >>123357660 Vietnam isn't a good example, because the US wasn't really trying to seize control of the entire country, just prevent North Vietnam from taking over South Vietnam. And the entire reason why they didn't just straight-up invade North Vietnam was fear of drawing in the Soviet Union into the war, meaning that they were concerned about the Soviet military.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493474323 123319696,123359651,2017-04-29 14:01:46,">>123357561 DELET THIS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493474506 123319696,123360219,2017-04-29 14:06:48,">>123349709 >Government generally isn't able to regulate what people drink, eat, smoke The FDA literally does that, as well as the DEA. >>123349709 The argument for decentralization of government is much stronger than the argument for the elimination of government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493474808 123319696,123360616,2017-04-29 14:10:06,"so what the fuck is pragmatic libertarian solutions to this? this is the most pressing issue imo because its ruining the country on behalf of bureaucrats/politicians and their (((corporate buddies))) t. constitutionalist",,Anonymous,quote-we-must-guard-against-the-acquisition-of-unwarranted-influence-whether-sought-or-unsought-by-the-dwight-d-eisenhower-56601.jpg,5ltkI2nMsx2RoRDo/Phx4Q==,US,,1493475006 123319696,123360728,2017-04-29 14:11:03,">>123319757 The Constitution of Liberty link aint workin, bruh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493475063 123319696,123360776,2017-04-29 14:11:27,">>123359303 something something afghanistan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493475087 123319696,123361042,2017-04-29 14:13:36,">>123360776 Considering that the US constantly operates in Afghanistan almost completely unimpeded, I don't think that's a great example either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493475216 123319696,123361193,2017-04-29 14:14:58,">>123361042 >still there after 16 years >al-qaeda still in the country >isis is now in the country much success, much freedom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493475298 123319696,123361402,2017-04-29 14:16:45,">>123361193 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493475405 123319696,123361986,2017-04-29 14:21:44,">>123361193 I never suggested that it was some glorious victory, but the fact remains that the U.S. operates in Afghanistan almost completely unimpeded. Completely killing off all the groups we don't like would require a much larger number of soldiers in the country. I'm also not sure why you'd look at ISIS or the Taliban and say that they are in a desirable position. Yeah, they still exist, but that's about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493475704 123611319,123611319,2017-05-01 07:52:06,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Every day is a bank holiday in Libertarianstan edition,Anonymous,1488455466717.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,GB,,1493625126 123611319,123611667,2017-05-01 07:55:38,,,Anonymous,1491522158842.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,GB,,1493625338 123611319,123611811,2017-05-01 07:57:06,,,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,GB,,1493625426 123611319,123611880,2017-05-01 07:57:42,">>123611319 I agree with libertarianism on most issues, but not the environment. There is just no way that problems like air pollution can be solved without government intervention.",,Anonymous,-1x-1.jpg,GwNbR94eP3cp6H7EN8Iidg==,US,,1493625462 123611319,123612259,2017-05-01 08:01:52,">>123611880 >The vital fact about air pollution is that the polluter sends unwanted and unbidden pollutants—from smoke to nuclear fallout to sulfur oxides—through the air and into the lungs of innocent victims, as well as onto their material property. All such emanations which injure person or property constitute aggression against the private property of the victims. Air pollution, after all, is just as much aggression as committing arson against another’s property or injuring him physically. Air pollution that injures others is aggression pure and simple.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493625712 123611319,123613187,2017-05-01 08:11:32,">>123611880 >only governments have the answer >posts quasi-communist China's air pollution as an issue What did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493626292 123611319,123613430,2017-05-01 08:14:10,">>123611880 Air pollution must be compensated. Successful communities should by all means charge people for polluting their property and get to agreements with near sources of pollution to compensate for their uncontrolled externalities. You want to smoke in my house? Sure, 20$.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493626450 123611319,123614078,2017-05-01 08:20:43,,,Anonymous,1486164847456.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,GB,,1493626843 123611319,123614515,2017-05-01 08:25:03,">>123611319 Is this the daily alt-lite thread?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493627103 123611319,123614757,2017-05-01 08:27:29,==END THE FED==,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493627249 123611319,123615255,2017-05-01 08:32:28,">>123614515 The alt-right are the alt-lite. Bunch of frog posting LARPers who worship e-celebs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493627548 123611319,123616272,2017-05-01 08:42:21,"Reporting in, thanks for making the thread this time. >>123614515 Fuck alt-light niggers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493628141 123611319,123616292,2017-05-01 08:42:31,">>123613430 >Air pollution must be compensated. That will only happen if the government passes a law that forces firms to do that. >>123612259 That's a nice little quote, but it doesn't translate well into actual practice because there is always going to be at least some air pollution in an industrialized society. It just needs to be kept down below an acceptable threshold. This is accomplished through regulations. For example, the government could pass a law stating that a factory cannot be built within X miles of a residential area. Or the government could mandate that firms make use of certain pollution-reducing technologies. Or the government could introduce a tax on pollution in order to incentivize firms to actively search for ways to reduce pollution on their own. There are many options, but it all stems from government regulations.",,Anonymous,177.jpg,su7Pm12XrBaHVCg+8pKG3Q==,US,,1493628151 123611319,123616706,2017-05-01 08:46:44,can someone redpill me on anarcho-capitalism? A main question there is how the workers' conditions are there if there are any and how it would theoretically operate in a democracy. Can it (seems like it)?,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493628404 123611319,123617115,2017-05-01 08:50:45,">>123616706 Workers conditions vary on the workers willingness to work in the conditions the employer sets up. The employer has incentive to make working for him desirable as he cannot force people to work for him over another employer. And democracy is incompatible with Anarcho capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493628645 123611319,123617186,2017-05-01 08:51:25,"Marxist and homosexual here. Since I'm a ""communist fag"" how are you going to ""physically remove"" me then? Oh, you aren't? Ah, I get it. You're a sad little contrarian child who found out about ancap on the internet and got brainwashed. You were particularly susceptible to it, seeing as you have aspergers and got bullied at school. This ideology tells you you're superior to those people, and is founded on a deliberate over-simplification of how human relations work in order to appeal to weak minds who cannot handle the nuance in political theory. You probably try talking about it but your parents think it's weird, and you don't mention it to intelligent people because they'd intellectually annihilate you in a debate. The sad reality is, in an actual anarcho-capitalist society, you'd be a pathetic wageslave licking the boots of your land-owning overlords. Ya gonna throw me out of an imaginary helicopter now?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493628685 123611319,123617504,2017-05-01 08:54:24,">>123617186 > Marxist and homosexual > Inability to produce cogent arguments, not make unsupported assertions and restrain from ranting Is there a pattern here?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493628864 123611319,123617509,2017-05-01 08:54:27,">>123617186 >aspergers and bullied better than having marxism and being molested desu",,Anonymous,ancap vs ancom.png,FmClvLNTPCFropLM0ZC0zQ==,SK,,1493628867 123611319,123617600,2017-05-01 08:55:22,">>123616706 ""Workers conditions"" are set by a voluntary contractual agreement between the employ and employer. That doesn't inherently rule out collective bargaining though, as long as being a member of the collective e.g. a union is entirely voluntary. Ancapistan is inherently opposed to democracy. However once again if people want to set up small, local, democratic processes to decide by a majority as long as it is all voluntary it's fine.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493628922 123611319,123617891,2017-05-01 08:58:15,">>123617186 >This ideology tells you you're superior to those people, and is founded on a deliberate over-simplification I think you want the alt-lite thread.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493629095 123611319,123617912,2017-05-01 08:58:29,">>123617186 >Marxist and Homosexual Lol I'm sorry to hear that. Get better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493629109 123611319,123618205,2017-05-01 09:01:18,">>123617600 >However once again if people want to set up small, local, democratic processes to decide by a majority as long as it is all voluntary it's fine. And what if a group of such communities get together and decide ""let's combine to form a Republic."" What then? When does it stop being ""okay""? What is the maximum allowable size?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493629278 123611319,123618336,2017-05-01 09:02:47,what's to stop a big company from gaining power and unfair advantages even easier than they do in the current system?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493629367 123611319,123618444,2017-05-01 09:03:58,">>123616706 >workers' conditions Like all things in an-cap it would be determined by a voluntary agreement. If a employer produces an absolute shit working conditions, then no one will work for him, and without labour, he'll go out of business. It's in his interest to make his working conditions better than the competition, ergo the best workers in the labour force will be enticed to work for him rather than any other manager. As for democracy, as the other anons stated, it doesn't work. Any form of anarchy will go against democracy. >>123617186 >how are you going to ""physically remove"" me then? Oh, you aren't? pic related",,Anonymous,Pooh.jpg,SJJBNjZGzvp9ogbkza794Q==,AU,,1493629438 123611319,123618521,2017-05-01 09:04:48,">>123617186 neat bait",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1493629488 123611319,123618590,2017-05-01 09:05:34,">>123617186 new pasta?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1493629534 123611319,123618747,2017-05-01 09:07:31,">>123618205 >""let's combine to form a Republic."" If they're willing to fight for it, and successfully defend it, then so be it. Welcome to statecraft, mate. This doesn't change from the current system. You're more than welcome to declare that your city is a micronation, provided you're willing to fight the US army when your entire city decides to cease paying tax and interacting with the rest of the union. >>123618336 define unfair in ancap it's impossible for it to be ""unfair"" because everything is the result of voluntary interactions. If a company becomes richer than the rest, it just means that it is better than the rest. Pure survival of the fittest. I'd argue that unfair advantages would be something like businesses getting governmental favours in the current system. This only happens because the government has the power to favour some over others. Take power away from government and this is solved.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493629651 123611319,123619093,2017-05-01 09:11:29,"How can we pull some hijinks/fuck with commie general? We really should be bullying that commie. Should we hijack them and make them secret /lrg/ threads?",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1493629889 123611319,123619171,2017-05-01 09:12:24,">>123618747 >If they're willing to fight for it, and successfully defend it, then so be it. This is more or less how countries form in real-life. >>123618747 >in ancap it's impossible for it to be ""unfair"" because everything is the result of voluntary interactions. How do you deal with ""fine print"" situations then? Why if a company sticks an eternal slavery clause into a contract at the last minute on the 100th page of a contract? Is that enforceable or not?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493629944 123611319,123619284,2017-05-01 09:13:45,">>123618747 >everything is the result of voluntary interactions You voluntarily choose to live in Australia so everything you experience is already down to voluntary actions, by your own maxim.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493630025 123611319,123619377,2017-05-01 09:14:53,">>123618205 Similarly the inverse occurs if you decide any collective cannot be tolerated at any cost. If a small rural town decides to vote for a mayor and everyone agrees on who it should be Bill and it's entirely voluntary, what grounds do you have to stop them? However in reality no big group of people are ever going to agree with everything so the voluntary requirement which I stipulated is going to be eliminated. Giving this large republic no legitimacy. Look I'm opposed to democracy or the formation of a democracy but to be consistent, if people voluntary form a republic you don't have any legitimate reason to stop them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493630093 123611319,123619526,2017-05-01 09:16:31,">>123618747 >voluntary interactions Who determines if they're voluntary or not?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493630191 123611319,123619694,2017-05-01 09:18:18,">tfw socialists in charge I feel like physically removing myself",,Anonymous,Miia's smile and optimism - gone.jpg,R4Zztza6Ejj8kjvkHGbIpA==,PT,,1493630298 123611319,123619695,2017-05-01 09:18:20,">>123619526 The people who agree to an interaction .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493630300 123611319,123619755,2017-05-01 09:18:58,"What if the private army we hire is bought by saudi arabia, what if BP covertly manages to pollute x1000 without regulations?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493630338 123611319,123619896,2017-05-01 09:20:35,">>123618747 >company becomes richer than the rest then it creates monopolies and new businesses have no chance",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493630435 123611319,123619924,2017-05-01 09:20:50,">>123619695 So if I put a gun to someone's head and force him to sign a contract, then that's voluntary?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493630450 123611319,123620015,2017-05-01 09:21:45,">>123619377 >However in reality no big group of people are ever going to agree with everything Well yeah. But that's the entire point of voting. If everybody always agreed, there would be no reason to ever have a vote. >>123619695 Okay, but in real-life it is possible for the government to null a contract if the terms are found to be outside of legal boundaries. This helps prevent situations where somebody gets drunk and bets their life savings on a poker game, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493630505 123611319,123620059,2017-05-01 09:22:18,">>123611319 why do you have elton john on your logo?",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1493630538 123611319,123620078,2017-05-01 09:22:30,">>123619377 >it doesn't fit my definition of what is voluntary so it wouldn't have legitimacy Funny that, if only you had existed in the past to tell all the primitive governments emerging from anarchy that they didn't have legitimacy, sure they'd have listened to you.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493630550 123611319,123620216,2017-05-01 09:24:20,">>123619171 >Is that enforceable or not? It all comes down to the judiciary system. From a purely legal perspective, if they signed the contract, that's their fault. A smart person looking for a job probably wouldn't sign a 100 page contract. You'd want the agreement of your work to be very basic. Half a page at absolute max, and have a discussion with the employer to clarify any misunderstandings. As such, any employer that demands you to sign a 100 page contract would probably lack labour because no one is dumb enough to sign it >>123619284 Wrong. Your argument is that because I choose to live here, if I get shot in the face tomorrow morning, it's a voluntary interaction because I chose to live here. However you'd need to prove that these two events (living in Australia, and getting shot in the face) are linked. It is possible to live in Australia and not get shot in the face. It's possible to get shot in the face and not live in Australia. Because it is an independent event, you must look at it as such, ergo a new interaction where a mutual agreement must be reached (between me and the murderer) >>123619526 those partaking in the interaction",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493630660 123611319,123620356,2017-05-01 09:25:56,">>123620216 So if I put a gun to someone's head and force him to sign a contract, then that's voluntary?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493630756 123611319,123620560,2017-05-01 09:28:14,">>123619924 Nope. Because the gun at his head is not voluntary and is in violation of the NAP. He didn't agree to have a gun to his head. >>123619896 >then it creates monopolies Wrong. The only example of monopolies are those which are created by the force of the government. The only other example is Standard Oil, which was both relatively short-lived and a peculiar case because it involved the very beginning of a new industry. If I create a new technology, I may contain a monopoly on that technology for 20 years before someone else figures out how to duplicate it, or how to create something better. Thus the monopoly is crushed",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493630894 123611319,123620616,2017-05-01 09:28:47,">>123620356 No, that's force try again",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493630927 123611319,123620738,2017-05-01 09:30:14,">>123620560 >>123620616 And who enforces the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631014 123611319,123620770,2017-05-01 09:30:32,">>123619924 >Forced to sign contract >Voluntary No. >>123620015 That's the same situation dumb feminist argue to say they've been raped after getting drunk and grabbing some guys dick. You are responsible for your actions. I don't care if you make bad choices.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631032 123611319,123620924,2017-05-01 09:32:14,">>123620738 It's not a law, it's ethics and only applies to dealing with other ethical people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631134 123611319,123621045,2017-05-01 09:33:26,">>123620738 The one with the gun. Welcome to the real world, son. You want shit in a world where the golden rule is ""survival of the fittest""? Prepare to fight",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493631206 123611319,123621120,2017-05-01 09:34:23,">>123620924 And who would teach those ethics to the people?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631263 123611319,123621207,2017-05-01 09:35:19,">>123620216 >It all comes down to the judiciary system Judges don't make laws. The legislative branch makes laws and then the judiciary interprets them. When deciding whether or not a contract is legally enforceable, a judge will look at the relevant statues to determine if a contract is allowed or not. >A smart person looking for a job probably wouldn't sign a 100 page contract. For major financial transactions, like buying a house (typically the most significant financial transaction of somebody's entire life) the paperwork involved can be quite extensive. Plenty of space enter hidden slavery clauses at the last minute. And don't tell me, ""but nobody would ever do that"" because there would certainly be people who would. >>123620924 >Without laws or regulations, everybody will just ""do the right thing."" Comically naive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631319 123611319,123621224,2017-05-01 09:35:31,">>123621045 So the NAP is just bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631331 123611319,123621414,2017-05-01 09:37:23,">>123620216 Choosing to enjoy the benefits of living in the safety and ordered society of Australia means you agree to pay tax just as driving down a road in Ancapistan means you are obliged to pay the toll at the end of the road. You were already prepared for it - you didn't have to pay taxes when you were a child, you knew what was coming yet chose to stay, just as me choosing to stay on a landowner's property means I have to agree when they wish to increase the rent.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493631443 123611319,123621536,2017-05-01 09:38:41,">>123621045 This shit is exactly why governments get formed IRL. People like having order in society. It allows them to focus more on other things, like doing their jobs, saving money, raising kids, etc. You're not making a very good case for your ""system.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631521 123611319,123621552,2017-05-01 09:38:52,">>123621207 You're an idiot, private law (Anarcho capitalism) is not lawlessness and has market regulations. You're going out of your way to be ignorant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631532 123611319,123621739,2017-05-01 09:40:43,">>123621552 >private law (Anarcho capitalism) is not lawlessness Who creates the law? Who enforces it? >has market regulations. Who creates the regulations? Who enforces them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631643 123611319,123621896,2017-05-01 09:42:08,">>123620078 I know m8, same applies for all the governments now, but i'm talking from a legal and philosophical perspective. Looks like you haven't read Lysander Spooner",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493631728 123611319,123621975,2017-05-01 09:43:04,">>123611319 was elton john some great libertarian? i guess he was with all that butsex",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1493631784 123611319,123621985,2017-05-01 09:43:11,">>123621536 >People like having order in society. If that's the case, then you don't need to force ""order"" upon them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631791 123611319,123622014,2017-05-01 09:43:25,">>123621739 Property owners.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631805 123611319,123622025,2017-05-01 09:43:33,">>123621207 I wouldn't argue that ""nobody would ever do that"". I'd argue that most people purchasing a house don't skip reading the paperwork, or at the very very very least, get their lawyer to read over it. >>123621224 Not exactly. Think of it as something similar to Mutually Assured Destruction. If you and I decide to trade goods, but at the end of the trade you stab me and take your goods back, I don't think many people will be lining up to trade with you. In fact I'd argue that they'd line up to lynch you, because you're bad for business and social cohesion. I believe it's natural for humans to want some form of social cohesion. Not everyone wants to sleep with a gun under their pillow, but we do what we need to do occasionally. >>123621414 yes, what is your point? I know I'm agreeing to pay taxation by living under the government of Australia. If I believe I could survive better otherwise in this exact moment, I'd buy a plane ticket to the amazon and start my own ancapistan in the jungle",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493631813 123611319,123622215,2017-05-01 09:45:27,">>123622025 Mutually Assured Destruction only works if both sides have weapons capable of destroying the other side.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493631927 123611319,123622424,2017-05-01 09:47:46,Can a moderate libertarian join?,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493632066 123611319,123622472,2017-05-01 09:48:11,"Ignore bait questions They are looking for affirmations for their own beliefs, not answers. They are not curious, they do not think for themselves, for they would have thought through the question or read one of authors presented for the answer. They are here to waste your time. Do not fall for their bait.",,Anonymous,don't bait me.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1493632091 123611319,123622525,2017-05-01 09:48:39,">>123622215 Which in a deregulated society isn't a problem. >it's another shitflinging in the /lrg/ thread episode This all makes a lot more sense if you realized that police don't fight crime, they protect property. Literally no one looks out for you as it is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632119 123611319,123622580,2017-05-01 09:49:09,">>123622424 Of course. What do you mean by moderate? Classic liberal?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493632149 123611319,123622581,2017-05-01 09:49:10,">>123621120 If I tried to take your property you'd defend your property, right? It's natural, objective law/morality. Everyone inherently knows theft and murder is wrong even if they choose to do wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632150 123611319,123622612,2017-05-01 09:49:27,>tfw no trans AnCap gf,,/pol/tard AnCap,Snake+thread_ea55db_5733515.jpg,mFOETM2O0LoKKD1AtZdYUg==,BR,,1493632167 123611319,123622721,2017-05-01 09:50:31,">>123621896 Was the formation of the Roman Republic a bad thing? Would you have tried to prevent it from occurring if you lived back then? Seems like a tragic waste for all that history to go down the drain because 1 guy disagreed about some trivial issue. >>123622014 And how is that accomplished? If my neighbor is building a structure (on his property) that is so tall it will cast my garden into shade and kill my flowers, how do I 'regulate' my neighbor who is much wealthier than I am? In real-life, zoning laws tend to prevent that kind of thing from happening. But ancapistan doesn't have zoning laws.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632231 123611319,123622757,2017-05-01 09:50:57,">>123622525 There will always be those without means to defend themselves and they will be enslaved/serfs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632257 123611319,123622933,2017-05-01 09:52:48,">>123622581 >Values are universal, everybody agrees on ethical boundaries",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632368 123611319,123622973,2017-05-01 09:53:15,">>123622581 No, everyone does not inherently know theft and murder is wrong. If I'm a Muslim extremist, I will murder you for being an infidel and steal your property. There are tons of ideologies and religions that justify murder of and theft from those who are heretics and outside of their tribe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632395 123611319,123623109,2017-05-01 09:54:39,">>123622215 Okay, so then a few will die before people arm themselves, no? I'm not sure if you realise but it's identical to what our nation states do, but just on an individual level. >>123622757 Their fault for not being able to defend themselves. No different to a homeless person having the finger pointed at them for being shit people with no skills to secure stable employment",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493632479 123611319,123623293,2017-05-01 09:56:39,"So what are my fellow capitalists doing this fine Monday morning? >not even 10am >already made 5% on my money in cryptocurrencies >already negotiated a business deal that I feel very good about >now happily tabbing between desk work and /lrg/ while sipping my morning coffee How does anyone hate this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632599 123611319,123623312,2017-05-01 09:56:51,">>123622721 Property owners can make zoning laws. Again private law is not lawlessness, it's unlikely that everyone will own land, you'll most likely live in a community owned by another person who has laws you can agree to or get lost.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632611 123611319,123623343,2017-05-01 09:57:16,">>123623109 >I'm not sure if you realise but it's identical to what our nation states do, but just on an individual level. Then why bother recreating a Balkanized mess of microstates that will be steamrolled by a larger, more coherent state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632636 123611319,123623414,2017-05-01 09:57:53,You guys are just as utopian an anarco-commies.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493632673 123611319,123623480,2017-05-01 09:58:33,">>123623109 Then the NAP is useless, because you are forcing people to be slaves without their consent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632713 123611319,123623537,2017-05-01 09:59:04,">>123623343 Individual responsibilities does not make Balkanization. If this was the truth, every government would be as Balkanized as the number of public employees. Do you even think before you type? Having a govt doesn't magically make you a single hiveminded being.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632744 123611319,123623577,2017-05-01 09:59:34,">>123623312 >Property owners can make zoning laws. That's odd, my textbook on real estate law doesn't mention that anywhere. It says that zoning laws are created by local municipalities (local governments) through authority passed down to them from the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632774 123611319,123623652,2017-05-01 10:00:21,">>123622933 >>123622973 Like I said, it is objective that theft and assault are immoral because they are acts that do harm. If you choose to ignore ethics they still stand as objective principles of morality. You're just an unethical dick and should be treated in an unethical way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632821 123611319,123623742,2017-05-01 10:01:14,">>123623293 Crypto bro reporting in too. Think alt-coin bubble might pop soon, tempted to shift 80/20 to btc. What do you do for a living?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493632874 123611319,123623759,2017-05-01 10:01:27,">>123623480 The NAP is a concept. It's just a general ""people should be good to one another, and retaliation is warranted in other scenarios"". It doesn't enforce anything because it's a concept. If you think libertarians think the NAP means no violence will occur, you're the one here thinking 0 level.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632887 123611319,123623767,2017-05-01 10:01:31,">>123623577 Yeah we don't live in ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493632891 123611319,123623991,2017-05-01 10:03:48,">>123621224 Contrary to many libertarians, I don't believe the NAP is even necessary. As a philosophical concept, it makes sense, but its application to the real world relies on most people agreeing to it. But, unlike other philosophical principles, the NAP is generated by natural incentives, I will explain why. People chose lawful societies over unlawful ones, they do so for their own security, you renounce your ""ability"" to kill people and in exchange you won't be killed by others. Historically, people searched for this safety under kings feuds, in a world of private property. Safety is still a human need, people strive to feel safe in order to prosper. Human needs are covered by the market, if you need safety, there will be someone willing to offer it to you. If I have the resources to generate safety within a property, how long do you think it will take me to realize that other people want to live with me and are willing to pay? Now, in a world of private property there are other incentives at play, I'm not the only one who realized that people want safety, so I will need to compete. In a medieval world the easiest way to compete was war, but we're at an age where death is something to be afraid of, where we have things to lose, where commerce has proven to beat pillaging, so competition, now, means having to attract people to your service by being better than the rest. This leads to an optimization of laws, how many freedoms would you be willing to renounce in order to achieve prosperity? Many people will answer as little as possible, right? That is the NAP. So, in short, the NAP *could be* the most optimal answer from the market to cover the need for security and prosperity. And I say *could be*, because maybe other methods with additions to the NAP prove themselves more effective. Anarcho-Capitalism would allow us to try them all.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493633028 123611319,123624317,2017-05-01 10:07:18,">>123623742 I manage a web development shop. It's a good job for having a steady income while also having constant access to the web services I use. As for the coins, my thought right now is that LTC is undervalued relative to the amount of news regarding it coming up. SW sure, but also lightning network and rumors that korbit will start trading it. Looks like a pretty safe bet in the coming week or two, I'll be keeping an eye on it. That said, I think BTC will be invaluable for protecting wealth once this bull run in cryptos slows or reverses altogether.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493633238 123611319,123624642,2017-05-01 10:10:24,">>123624317 Nice. Frankly I was thinking of getting rid of LTC but I might hold for a bit longer (had since 2013). Also have ETH and ETC, along with BTC.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493633424 123611319,123624799,2017-05-01 10:12:08,Fuck off,,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493633528 123611319,123625193,2017-05-01 10:15:56,">>123624642 I'm definitely looking at it from a day trading perspective. I'm not sure how LTC looks longterm. I think ETH and by extension ETC have competed for the space of larger altcoins and won that battle, being backed by institutions. You've made a killing on your money these past weeks if you were holding ETH/ETC, so gratz on that!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493633756 123611319,123625213,2017-05-01 10:16:05,">>123622612 why trans?",,Anonymous,would tread on.png,Wn3qPwZ1llzuwwvsIDp+HA==,PT,,1493633765 123611319,123625357,2017-05-01 10:17:23,">>123623652 That's not objective at all. There are no shortage of people in prison who will tell you why they had to kill some guy, why it was okay for them to rob those people, etc. >>123623767 Thank god.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493633843 123611319,123625378,2017-05-01 10:17:37,"Bump with my fav Raico quote so far. >That liberalism did not undergo a metamorphosis into a statist caricature of itself does not mean that it did not evolve. No argument is being offered here that the liberal idea suddenly sprang up at a certain point complete and fully matured. Neither can liberalism be approached as though it were a colloquy conducted among philosophers over the centuries.41 Instead, it must be understood as a political and social doctrine and movement grounded in a distinctive culture and traceable to specific historical conditions. That culture was the West—the Europe that arose in communion with the Bishop of Rome. The historical conditions were those of the Middle Ages. The history of liberalism is rooted in what economic historians sometimes call “the European miracle.” More precisely, liberalism can be viewed as the slowly emerging ideological and political aspect of that “miracle.” - Ralph Raico, ""Liberalism: True and False"", in ""Classical Liberalism and the Austrian School"", p. 89",,Anonymous,Ralph Raico 2005.jpg,0RLqG1mObGyzQkQQBJAUlg==,CA,,1493633857 123611319,123625632,2017-05-01 10:20:18,">>123625357 Will we say that mathematics are not objective because some people may maintain that 2+2=5 (as the communist did in one of their slogan)? To say that something is objective is to say that it can be ascertained by several independent observers irrespective of their own personal situation. In this sense, property violations are an objective phenomenon, or at least might be. (I know of one one book which disputes this.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493634018 123611319,123625941,2017-05-01 10:23:26,">>123625193 I think it frankly depends on whether btc shuns BU and brings in Segwit which would largely render ltc redundant (as a large part of this run was that it would be the only coin with sw). Both can interact on ln but imo ltc will fall away again like in 13 onwards",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493634206 123611319,123626223,2017-05-01 10:26:08,">>123622580 Just not an ancap is what I imagine passes as moderate/classical liberal here. I think the government should have some to most oversight of some aspects of a society like education, legal system (the assumption being that said legal system follows the principles of personal freedom so no petty victim-less illegalities like drugs and guns for self protection)/law enforcement but at all costs should not take part in business and establish state monopolies. Incentivize business maybe in some cases like tax cuts for green energy production but that something to be enforced in a case by case basis. I guess my belief that clashes the most against the libertarian philosophy is that I believe some state social programs, very limited and exclusive by design but real nonetheless, should exist in my ""ideal society"". As a sidenote to the thread in general, topical from my country's recent news, was the DE-monopolization of energy production from government control (due to be finalized by the end of the month) and how we, the people, are already experiencing the upside of the effects of a free and open market. This was a long time coming especially given the events of the last 3-4 years where the Greek government was using its monopoly on energy as an effective ""second"" tax, jacking up the price of power to ridiculous extremes to cover its own inability to stop tax evasion.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493634368 123611319,123626435,2017-05-01 10:28:24,">>123625632 >Will we say that mathematics are not objective because some people may maintain that 2+2=5 No, because math itself is the origin of objectivity. If ethics could be numerically quantified, then they would be objective. However, ethics are not strictly quantifiable and thus they are subjective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493634504 123611319,123626439,2017-05-01 10:28:28,"Any system in which social relationships are determined entirely by economic factors is contrary to the nature of the human person and his acts. 2424 A theory that makes profit the exclusive norm and ultimate end of economic activity is morally unacceptable. The disordered desire for money cannot but produce perverse effects. It is one of the causes of the many conflicts which disturb the social order. A system that ""subordinates the basic rights of individuals and of groups to the collective organization of production"" is contrary to human dignity. Every practice that reduces persons to nothing more than a means of profit enslaves man, leads to idolizing money, and contributes to the spread of atheism. ""You cannot serve God and mammon."" 2425 The Church has rejected the totalitarian and atheistic ideologies associated in modem times with ""communism"" or ""socialism."" She has likewise refused to accept, in the practice of ""capitalism,"" individualism and the absolute primacy of the law of the marketplace over human labor. Regulating the economy solely by centralized planning perverts the basis of social bonds; regulating it solely by the law of the marketplace fails social justice, for ""there are many human needs which cannot be satisfied by the market."" Reasonable regulation of the marketplace and economic initiatives, in keeping with a just hierarchy of values and a view to the common good, is to be commended. IV. ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE 2426 The development of economic activity and growth in production are meant to provide for the needs of human beings. Economic life is not meant solely to multiply goods produced and increase profit or power; it is ordered first of all to the service of persons, of the whole man, and of the entire human community. Economic activity, conducted according to its own proper methods, is to be exercised within the limits of the moral order, in keeping with social justice so as to correspond to God's plan for man.",,Anonymous,1493000409864m.jpg,kDtAqHOr1Ch22pwZVQPF2Q==,US,,1493634508 123611319,123626519,2017-05-01 10:29:16,">>123611319 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E Hey OP. Please add this to your Starting Thread Copy Pasta. Mark Passio has invaluable work on Natural Law and Natural Rights. >See pic related for synopsis.",,Anonymous,natural law.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,US,,1493634556 123611319,123626616,2017-05-01 10:30:19,">>123625357 If your ignorant of an objective fact, the truth does not cease to exist. Objective morality does not stop you from being a moral relativist. If you don't believe in gravity then you have no fear of falling. But you will still fall.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493634619 123611319,123626618,2017-05-01 10:30:19,">>123626439 fuck off commie",,Anonymous,inMsTLgqBqf_MQ6bOELRZFBHT20EHo8hSwUNsmyny8g.jpg,R3Y1krShIYUBMzOuZUHarA==,GB,,1493634619 123611319,123626700,2017-05-01 10:30:58,">>123626519 Everyone should watch this presentation. It was wonderful and worth the long watch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493634658 123611319,123626710,2017-05-01 10:31:01,OP will defend this,,Anonymous,IMG_2413.jpg,qtkMSp1JGYzbs7qTeFW5CA==,US,,1493634661 123611319,123626861,2017-05-01 10:32:31,">>123625213 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH",,Anonymous,DONALD UBER ERECTION.gif,HUFEODFSueVBpCfRKwVEyQ==,US,,1493634751 123611319,123626876,2017-05-01 10:32:40,">>123626439 2431 The responsibility of the state. ""Economic activity, especially the activity of a market economy, cannot be conducted in an institutional, juridical, or political vacuum. On the contrary, it presupposes sure guarantees of individual freedom and private property, as well as a stable currency and efficient public services. Hence the principal task of the state is to guarantee this security, so that those who work and produce can enjoy the fruits of their labors and thus feel encouraged to work efficiently and honestly. . . . Another task of the state is that of overseeing and directing the exercise of human rights in the economic sector. However, primary responsibility in this area belongs not to the state but to individuals and to the various groups and associations which make up society.""",,Anonymous,1492999746156.png,zReev+d/eKnek/5bFjoeVQ==,US,,1493634760 123611319,123626936,2017-05-01 10:33:14,">>123626439 >Social relationships determined by economic factors are contrary to nature Ever since there was a monkey with a bigger stick than another monkey economic factors have determined social relationships. >The disordered desire for money cannot but produce perverse effects So the desire for improvement produces perverse effects? What a load of shit you just wrote, my friend.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493634794 123611319,123627028,2017-05-01 10:34:02,">>123626439 >Any system in which social relationships are determined entirely by economic factors is contrary to the nature of the human person and his acts. Stopped reading here. Mutual trade, commerce and the division of labor are all completely natural and benicifical.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493634842 123611319,123627124,2017-05-01 10:35:03,">>123626439 >Any system in which social relationships are determined entirely by economic factors is contrary to the nature of the human person and his acts. >that's why communism is so human, it's entirely involved with the economy of the govt but since I like it it's more human and since I don't like your economic ideas they're icky and contrary to nature",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493634903 123611319,123627192,2017-05-01 10:35:40,">>123626435 >No, because math itself is the origin of objectivity. Math can hardly be the origin of objectivity if we then claim IT to be objective. It is not posited as the standard definition of what is objective but is rather recognized as being objective. It is objective because it is independent of any person's will or personal circumstance. In so far as there is anything else in life that is objective and exists independently of human perception, it is not so because it IS math but rather because it shares a common property -- that of being objective -- with mathematical knowledge. When I say that violations of private property are objective, I do not mean that the judgement of it being bad is objective. I say merely that the fact of it happening is probably objective. If one recognize that person A owns item X, then one can objectively ascertain whether or not person B did breached A's property right by doing so and so with item X belonging to A. >>123626439 >A theory that makes profit the exclusive norm and ultimate end of economic activity is morally unacceptable. Libertarianism does not make profit the ultimate norm of everything. The ultimate norm of everything is self ownership. Whether or not a person will then decide to pursue profit with his property or not is his own affair. There is nothing in libertarianism that would prevent, for instance, monks from dedicating their life to quiet contemplation or good work.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493634940 123611319,123627263,2017-05-01 10:36:17,">>123626710 >Current government is ran by an elite, dark occultic, psychopathic, pedophile, black mailing, murderous, ritual obsessed, communist zionist kikes.. >M-Muh roads!!!! Tell that to all the children who are raped and sacrificed day in and day out, all the soldiers that kill themselves every day. Check yourself lad.",,Anonymous,molymeme.gif,jW/ipacIcHaIODMtoVc9zg==,US,,1493634977 123611319,123627467,2017-05-01 10:38:21,">>123626616 >If your ignorant of an objective fact, the truth does not cease to exist. Chemists use stoichiometry equations to determine the amount of product that will result from a chemical reaction. These equations are extraordinarily precise. They have to be. If you could quantify ethics down to this level of precision, then you could say that ethics are objective. Until then, ethics is subjective.",,Anonymous,Equation.png,y9icSiUZHnEgzj7e+2ofIw==,US,,1493635101 123611319,123627581,2017-05-01 10:39:33,">>123627467 Morality is objective, you filthy leftist. Immoral actions are that which do harm.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493635173 123611319,123627670,2017-05-01 10:40:21,">>123626710 >https://www.citylab.com/politics/2017/03/portland-anarchists-want-to-fix-your-streets-potholes/519588/ Really activated my almonds. I believe they are mutualists not ancaps.",,Anonymous,potholes.jpg,icF5p2sRfdhSc8dA1ZUs0A==,AU,,1493635221 123611319,123627747,2017-05-01 10:41:13,">>123627581 Okay then. Let's see the equation. I want to see the numbers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493635273 123611319,123627757,2017-05-01 10:41:21,>they never played fallout,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493635281 123611319,123627848,2017-05-01 10:42:16,">>123627670 Do they hate flower?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493635336 123611319,123627907,2017-05-01 10:42:51,">>123617186 good bait here, saved Anyway, I'm not an ancap, just libertarian right. Everyone should be able to do what they want without retaliation, as long as it's not stepping on anyone else's toes, imo. In a libright society, you're entitled to your own beliefs - your faggotry and communism are what you follow, people who don't care ignore you, people who do care pay attention to you, and everything's peachy. Meanwhile, in a cuckland like Sweden, someone could get in hot water (whether that's legal trouble or just social) just for disagreeing with you. And while ancap wouldn't work, less extreme libright views would work great. Meanwhile, all memes aside (watch me piss off some leftypol tankies here), communism hasn't worked once when put into effect. It's always become yet another authoritarian, repressive society. I guess it could work if you mean Marxism-lite, like in Scandinavia, but a capitalist, libertarian society would be better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493635371 123611319,123628213,2017-05-01 10:45:57,">>123627757 Robert House > all",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493635557 123611319,123628386,2017-05-01 10:47:33,">>123627747 If an action does harm it is immoral.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493635653 123611319,123628585,2017-05-01 10:49:27,">>123627581 >do harm. To whom? In what way? Is beating someone that wants to be beaten ""doing harm""? If someone perceives themselves to be the victims of harm by the hands of another, is he/she actually being harmed? If someone is being deliberately left ignorant to something better, a better way of life, is he/she the victim of an others harm even if he/she doesn't perceive it as such? Your definition is broad to the point of being meaningless, the only purpose behind it being to elevate you as the one that confers that definition as some sort of superior moral authority.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493635767 123611319,123628694,2017-05-01 10:50:27,">>123628386 I'm not seeing any numbers, mate. Unless a phenomenon can be quantified, it is subjective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493635827 123611319,123628895,2017-05-01 10:52:09,I would let (((them))) raise every other tax if we repealed the federal individual income tax for good.,,Anonymous,rickilake.jpg,lmcYmUu3GNP49itPFvjRDw==,US,,1493635929 123611319,123628963,2017-05-01 10:52:49,">>123628585 >>123628694 Wew lad, just research natural law. It's a very simple truth to understand.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493635969 123611319,123629319,2017-05-01 10:56:02,">>123628963 Still not seeing any numbers. Therefore, it is subjective. Thanks for playing.",,Anonymous,1493105127001.jpg,vV9QNwCMRzgyHd/LDDRj2A==,US,,1493636162 123611319,123629323,2017-05-01 10:56:05,">>123628694 >only quantification is subjective >statements like ""John murdered his wife"" are now subjective",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493636165 123611319,123629433,2017-05-01 10:57:05,">>123628963 Not an argument, or do you understand so little of your own point that you can't argue it's merits without resorting to insults and ""look up the facts"" tier reasoning?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493636225 123611319,123629637,2017-05-01 10:58:48,">>123626710 I defend the fact that this happened under the monopoly of roads held by the state.",,Anonymous,ancap1.png,oik2GYzDX3Qa8zdZemTG/w==,ES,,1493636328 123611319,123629900,2017-05-01 11:01:04,">>123629323 Basically, yeah. John's defense attorney will argue that it wasn't murder, whereas the prosecution will argue that it was murder. The jury then gets to decide which version of events they find to be more convincing. There is no mathematical equation that determines whether or not something is murder or not. Therefore, it falls upon the jury to make the decision.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493636464 123611319,123630286,2017-05-01 11:04:34,">>123629433 >>123629319 Folks look it up, I'm not going to explain objective morality to people that are rigid skeptics regardless of the information I have. I don't care if you think morality is just a matter of perspective it's your life and you can choose to be a left hand path moral relativist if you want.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493636674 123611319,123630488,2017-05-01 11:06:18,"Judge says California prisons must provide ‘transgenders’ with special underwear and jewelry California pls go. Pls secede. >http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/05/01/judge-says-california-prisons-must-provide-transgenders-with-special-underwear-and-jewelry/",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493636778 123611319,123630800,2017-05-01 11:09:05,">>123630286 >rigid skeptics >left hand path moral relativist Baseless assumptions. Believe it or not not everyone here has dug a hole for himself, named it ancap or natsoc or alt-right or whatever, and is unwilling to adapt and consider. But of course you are proving to be neither willing to change or willing to explain your point so that others may consider it. You are the rigid one here and one unwilling to argue his point, everything else is made up by your own assumptions, projections and spooks.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493636945 123611319,123630835,2017-05-01 11:09:25,">>123629900 >John's defense attorney will argue that it wasn't murder, whereas the prosecution will argue that it was murder. Here there is conflation again. The very fact that the statement ""John murdered his wife"" purport to represent something objective is the reason for the very possibility of argument in the first place. There's no point in arguing the subjective, as there is nothing to be established. What cannot be inter subjectively ascertained need not be debated. Indeed, there is no point in such a debate, as no argument can be marshaled to ""prove"" the statement. At best you may write a poem about it to change the feelings of the person to whom you're talking. The fact that matters may be in dispute is not the proof that something is not objective. It merely shows that it is difficult to ascertain. For instance, existence claims are not mathematical claim --- the claim that you exist is not mathematical -- yet they are claims that purports to represent some objective state of the world. >>123630488 The USA must secede from California.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493636965 123611319,123631385,2017-05-01 11:14:09,">>123630800 If you don't believe in morality as objective truth you are a moral relativist and therefore on the left hand path, I agree with you about alt right and NatSoc ideologies also being subjective morality left hand paths. Ancap however is aligned with natural law and is the right hand path.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493637249 123611319,123631482,2017-05-01 11:15:06,">>123630835 ""Murder"" itself is a subjective action. It is possible to kill somebody without it being murder. What if the death occurs due to negligence rather than malicious intent? That's typically not treated as murder in most legal systems. What if you shoot an intruder who is trying to break into your home, resulting in death? That's not murder in my opinion, that's justifiable homicide. But what is considered to be ""justifiable homicide"" depends in large part on what jury you end up with. Again, this leaves room for subjectivity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493637306 123611319,123632166,2017-05-01 11:21:27,">>123631482 >""Murder"" itself is a subjective action. I strongly suspect you conflate the subjective convention of naming and categorizing with the objective fact of what murder is. All of your examples are acts or murder or, if you prefer, acts of killing. That much is objectively ascertained yet is not mathematical. What is not necessarily objectively ascertained is whether or not these acts of killing were justifiable or not. That's where subjectivity will come into play. The fact is objective. The moral evaluation of that fact won't be. But the fact is not mathematical in nature.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493637687 123611319,123633323,2017-05-01 11:32:22,,,Anonymous,quote_freedom_does_not_mean_that_right_to_do_whatever_we_please_but_rather_to_do_as_we_ought_fulton_j_sheen_94_3_0312.jpg,OZFWkqtBzu2EcOgXEPfaKw==,US,,1493638342 123611319,123633396,2017-05-01 11:32:55,">>123616292 >there is always going to be at least some air pollution in an industrialized society The problem is industialised society.",,Anonymous,1493196383724.jpg,QwkWkKZoxW+QlOcXLJ2GRA==,GB,,1493638375 123611319,123633957,2017-05-01 11:38:30,">>123632166 >The fact is objective. The moral evaluation of that fact won't be. So you're finally admitting that ethics is subjective?",,Anonymous,1493027129065.jpg,jwgYraFBpevqt/S0PtZD9Q==,US,,1493638710 123611319,123634161,2017-05-01 11:40:17,">>123633957 He's saying that killing does not equate to murder. Killing can be in self-defense, murder is always inflicted upon the undeserving.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493638817 123611319,123634364,2017-05-01 11:42:13,">>123634161 >Murder is always inflicted upon the undeserving. Okay. But that's still ethically subjective. Who is deserving and who is undeserving? Subjective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493638933 123611319,123634451,2017-05-01 11:43:04,">>123621120 God.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493638984 123611319,123635502,2017-05-01 11:52:50,Liberty bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493639570 123611319,123635732,2017-05-01 11:55:15,">>123633957 I first contested your notion of what objectivity was, without implying that ethics was objective. I then contested that only mathematical statements were objective. I did not assert that ethic was objective.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493639715 123611319,123635935,2017-05-01 11:57:13,">>123635732 >I did not assert that ethic was objective. Then I'm sorry for the confusion. You are free to go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493639833 123611319,123637368,2017-05-01 12:11:16,">>123634364 The problem we're having explaining ethics to you is that you have a world view that the only thing that objectivity exists is your thoughts, and whatever you decide to be true is true. Therefore there can be no such thing as truth, morality, reality. You are alone in your own head",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493640676 123611319,123637743,2017-05-01 12:15:13,I hate the Libertarian Party so god damn much.,,Anonymous,18119520_10155243531537726_1202842133671034821_n.jpg,UD9OpCY00UPGN94PiYn8fA==,US,,1493640913 123611319,123638174,2017-05-01 12:19:20,">>123637368 To paraphrase American philosopher James Williams, true ideas are those we can assimilate, validate, corroborate, and verify. False ideas are those we cannot. That is my conception of ""truth."" It is much different than to simply pretend that your opinion is ""natural law"" and universally accepted despite all conflicting evidence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493641160 123611319,123638500,2017-05-01 12:22:37,">>123611319 Best threads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493641357 123611319,123638739,2017-05-01 12:24:51,">>123637743 The dogmatic bent of many libertarians will ultimately be their undoing. They'll invite people who are basically their enemy because they insist the their own value is derived from following some pre-established rule book. The problem is that norms are such that you cannot apply a norm to someone else unless you know he himself adheres to that norm. Norms have to be reciprocal, and they have to be so not only in the present but in the future. There has to be trust that the person you invite in your country is such that he won't fuck you over later if he has the option. Libertarians are stupid in this respect.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493641491 123611319,123638749,2017-05-01 12:24:55,">>123626439 >Any system in which social relationships are determined entirely by economic factors is contrary to the nature of the human person and his acts. Yeah no. In a libertarian society social relationships would form as they ""naturally"" would because there would be no government intervention in social interactions",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493641495 123611319,123639266,2017-05-01 12:30:15,">>123638739 That's why we don't support open borders.",,Anonymous,ancaps against open borders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1493641815 123611319,123639410,2017-05-01 12:31:45,"Bumping for support. Libertarian right is objectively right for a fundamentally fulfilling, free life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493641905 123611319,123639533,2017-05-01 12:33:02,">>123638174 My opinion is not natural law, natural law is the truth whether my subjective opinion agrees or not, whether or not I have measured it and found it to be true. >>123638739 Yes the libertarians the interpret non aggression to tolerance of those who reject non aggression are morons and will end up killing themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493641982 123611319,123639685,2017-05-01 12:34:35,"Libertarianism is the most peaceful path to white nationalism, because ""freedom of association"" is a lot more cooperative and an easy sell than ""gas and deport them now"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493642075 123611319,123639689,2017-05-01 12:34:35,">>123639533 >natural law is the truth",,Anonymous,243.png,7BPnnRbHJzYsnOPwUe9IPQ==,US,,1493642075 123611319,123639759,2017-05-01 12:35:24,">>123639266 /pol/ libertarians are superior to normie libertarians. They seem to acknowledge the historical character of liberty. Liberty is embodied in a people. People do not change their opinions, or seldom do, through rational argumentation. (It's a costly process.) Liberty is most likely to emerge in a certain national context, within a certain people. >>123639533 They sure will. >hey guys, liberty has almost never existed in the history of the world except in some limited form in the west >let's pretend our system is invincible and universal and see what happens hurr durrr",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493642124 123611319,123639955,2017-05-01 12:37:20,">>123619694 Don't worry senpai, day of the helicopter is nigh.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493642240 123611319,123640128,2017-05-01 12:39:13,">>123639689 That's my point, you don't believe in truth outside of perception.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493642353 123611319,123640335,2017-05-01 12:41:26,">>123640128 I already gave the definition of truth that I most agree with. The truth is that which we can assimilate, validate, corroborate, and verify. Everything else is subjective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493642486 123611319,123640503,2017-05-01 12:43:17,">>123619694 >>123639955 Is there a tradition of Portuguese liberalism? It'd be interesting to translate various work of national liberalism into english. I could probably translate the writings of the ""Journal des Économistes"". It kinda blows we don't have Italians in here.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493642597 123611319,123640529,2017-05-01 12:43:30,Which one of you fuckboys went to YAL Spring Summit,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493642610 123611319,123640611,2017-05-01 12:44:11,">be me >own Shekelberg and Sons >buy two opposite river banks and the water of the river inbetween them that runs through Libertopia >build a 3ft high bridge to save shekels >commercial shipping forever halted and nobody can do shit without violating the NAP Libertopia BTFO",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493642651 123611319,123640814,2017-05-01 12:46:17,">>123640335 Truth is that which is. It doesn't matter if you can validate it or not. Reality exists with our without you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493642777 123611319,123640830,2017-05-01 12:46:24,>>123636125,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493642784 123611319,123641014,2017-05-01 12:48:12,">>123640611 >alternative capital formation immediately lead to creation of alternative routes of communication >Martin Shekelberg of Shekerlberg and son now stuck investing capital in a dead venture with constant depreciation >Shekelberg and son now stuck having to deal with a whole bunch of pissed of merchants from Good Goys ltd.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493642892 123611319,123641051,2017-05-01 12:48:36,">>123640611 >be me >make money >get called a jew by poor trailer trash trump voters >have a better quality of life >bang hotties every night Lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493642916 123611319,123641493,2017-05-01 12:53:01,">>123640335 >>123640335 can you ""assimilate, validate, corroborate, and verify."" the concept of rape and how it differs from sex?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493643181 123611319,123641593,2017-05-01 12:53:56,">>123616706 Anarcho-capitalism is a contradiction in terms. What makes capitalism work is contracts and the laws surrounding those contracts (see Uniform Commercial Code). In order for contracts to be enforceable, there need to be a neutral third party to intervene in case disputes arise, which they will. The third party in this case is the government through the courts. The laws governing contracts are created and enforced by the government. So how would anarcho-capitalists resolve disputes over contracts? Hit men?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493643236 123611319,123642009,2017-05-01 12:57:43,">>123641593 Systems of private laws have been elaborated but I'm not sure how they would operate without the potential for the legitimate use of force.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493643463 123611319,123642123,2017-05-01 12:58:46,">>123641014 There is only one river and the port is downstream, there is no alternative route of communication.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493643526 123611319,123642792,2017-05-01 13:04:48,>>123638500,,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,GB,,1493643888 123611319,123642930,2017-05-01 13:06:03,">>123642123 >this hypothetical problem is actually called ""libertarians lose by definition because I don't like them"" So Shekelberg and Son own the port, a portion of the river, and have it in their mind to prevent the use of the port for no reason at all. Furthermore they, for some reason, are able to prevent access to other ports, or the building of other ports. They do this, presumably, for no reason, as they seem to be uninterested in making a profit. We should also posit that they control the air, as air travel might be able to circumvent their idiotic blockade. Furthermore, Shekelberg and Son can blockade the port and all alternative means of communication, but they themselves cannot, for some reason, be on the receiving end of retaliatory action. Therefore, libertarians lose. There will always be some investor which will buy the means of communication solely for the purpose of preventing their use without any other motive than to piss people off. Therefore, state monopolies are necessary.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493643963 123611319,123643546,2017-05-01 13:11:02,">>123642930 The motive is irrelevant, perhaps the bridge and all lands providing access to the city were bought to build Holocaust memorials on them to honour the six trillions, the point is that it is a possibility and exposes an important flaw in the libertardian system.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493644262 123611319,123643994,2017-05-01 13:14:30,">>123643546 >a state owns all the river and blockades their use so as to built six gorillion holocaust memorial Since this example is possible, statism is discredited.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493644470 123611319,123644289,2017-05-01 13:17:10,">>123643994 No as the state is accountable to its people (to a certain degree) and there for the interest of the city. With corporations/individuals you have to deal with their whims and there is not much you can do without violating the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493644630 123611319,123644675,2017-05-01 13:20:20,">>123640814 >It doesn't matter if you can validate it or not. It matters quite a bit, actually. If you present something as objective truth without having the ability to validate it, then you're just talking out your ass.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493644820 123611319,123644808,2017-05-01 13:21:25,">>123640611 No one would buy land next to, or have intentions of using the river, if it wasn't commonly owned anyway and its use contractually obliged you idiot. Like you renting office space then the contractors who provide security at the front-entrance suddenly filling in all the doors with concrete. The security are part of the contract. If they breach it, they are removed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493644885 123611319,123645214,2017-05-01 13:24:29,">>123644289 >the state is accountable to its people I'm sure that's why people get expropriated all the time and state all over the world exploit their power to abuse their own citizens or, rather, subjects. Erdogan bombs the Kurd to shit because states are benevolent. China fucks over the Tibetans and expropriate whole town to build a damn because states are benevolent. The FBI does asset forfeiture because the state is benevolent. But please protect me from the possibility that a property owner may do with what he owns what he likes. The state is responsive to its people but property owners are not responsive to the market. The tyranny of the property owner who cannot use violence is worse than the tyranny of the state who can. This all makes sense.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493645069 123611319,123645525,2017-05-01 13:26:57,">>123611319 LE PEN CANT SAVE FRANCE >>123643547 SEE WHAT DOOMED FRANCE AND HOW TO CHANGE IT >>123643547 KUEHNELT-LEDDIHN WAS RIGHT",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493645217 123611319,123646226,2017-05-01 13:32:23,">>123644675 Say it with me; The truth is that which is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493645543 123611319,123646483,2017-05-01 13:34:42,">>123646226 The truth is that which can be verified. Everything else is subjective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493645682 123611319,123646786,2017-05-01 13:37:17,">>123645525 >t. the mad monarchist We know democracy doesn't work. The answer is private property. Open your eyes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493645837 123611319,123647002,2017-05-01 13:38:58,">>123646483 So you honestly believe that when you die, the truth ceases to exist? All because no one can prove anything to your corpse? Try again; The truth is that which is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493645938 123611319,123647557,2017-05-01 13:43:24,">>123647002 There are plenty of ways to verify if somebody is dead or not. The simplest is to check for a heartbeat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493646204 123611319,123647692,2017-05-01 13:44:39,is this trait inherent to people who just want to be left alone? Is this why I'm a libertarian?,,Anonymous,autism.png,fB6DQgosu+ZAUydt0vNavA==,US,,1493646279 123611319,123647872,2017-05-01 13:46:18,">>123646483 what if i verify it but someone else can't?",,Anonymous,thinking_man_PNG11595.png,uWncwmu7lQL8D0bu7U7y7Q==,GB,,1493646378 123611319,123648316,2017-05-01 13:50:01,">>123647557 Yes I agree it's a good way to find and understand the truth. But your validation cannot change the truth because; the truth is that which is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493646601 123611319,123648434,2017-05-01 13:50:54,">>123646786 There can be no real private property in the current regime",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493646654 123611319,123648832,2017-05-01 13:54:07,Why do you guys get so confused on what property rights actually are?,,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1493646847 123611319,123648893,2017-05-01 13:54:36,">>123611880 There are plenty of non-profit organisations involved in environmental issues that can provide incentives for businesses to meet certain standards. Sponsorship and a ""stamp of approval"" can go a long way in drumming up - or keeping away - business from the people who feel strongly about those issues.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493646876 123611319,123649057,2017-05-01 13:56:02,">>123648832 Geofags pls go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493646962 123611319,123649279,2017-05-01 13:57:55,">>123649057 i always thought it was about self ownership ""Though the earth, and all inferior creatures be common to all men, yet every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has any right to but himself."" -- John Locke, 2nd Treatise of Government, Ch. 5 ""The property which every man has in his own labour, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable."" -- Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations, Bk 1, Ch. 10, Pt 2 ""The property rights that each citizen has in himself are the foundation of a free society."" -- James Bovard, Freedom In Chains, p. 86 ""Libertarianism begins with self ownership."" -- David Bergland, Libertarianism In One Lesson, p. 35 ""There is only one fundamental right (all others are its consequences or corollaries): a man's right to his own life. Life is a process of self-sustaining and self-generated action; the right to life means the right to engage in self-sustaining and self-generated action--which means: the freedom to take all the actions required by the nature of a rational being for the support, the furtherance, the fulfillment and the enjoyment of his own life…Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life."" -- Ayn Rand, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, pp. 321-2 ""The right of life and liberty--that is to say, the right of the man to himself--is not really one right and the right of property another right. They are two aspects of the same perception--the right of property being but another side, a differently stated expression, of the right of man to himself. The right of life and liberty, and the right of the individual to himself, presupposes and involves the right of property, which is the exclusive right of the individual to the things his exertion has produced."" -- Henry George, A Perplexed Philosopher, p. 210",,Anonymous,emmememe.jpg,ii2fbCLmnFokum3pcpYiXg==,US,,1493647075 123611319,123649465,2017-05-01 13:59:25,">>123649057 cmon fella we are all on the same page with liberty... why cant you guys just take it all the way?",,Anonymous,marxandfriedmanonthesamepage.jpg,jQcX/dlW8Ly0ZxJ3JYAGYg==,US,,1493647165 123611319,123649710,2017-05-01 14:01:45,">>123649465 >the land owner risks nothing >the decision to rent to sub optimal project is not a risk The fuck am I reading?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493647305 123611319,123649738,2017-05-01 14:01:59,">>123647692 Yes, you score low on these tests because you're a libertarian.",,Anonymous,empatia score.png,RDVc+AFtG8PScXfmFyOXsQ==,IT,,1493647319 123611319,123651207,2017-05-01 14:14:43,,,Anonymous,leftiesconfusingnames.png,Ba+bJ9CDeHaw95YWJzuYpw==,US,,1493648083 123611319,123651451,2017-05-01 14:16:52,"http://www.lpme.org/immigration >muh illegals are not bad people >change immigration laws to let third world era in how do you fix these people?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493648212 123611319,123652210,2017-05-01 14:23:34,">>123651451 Culturally enrich them.",,Anonymous,1478062554533.jpg,zNB+xJzgi0DYrt5FFmSyBw==,US,,1493648614 123611319,123652265,2017-05-01 14:24:09,">>123611319 Hoppe is a communist. He supports statist borders.",,Anonymous,why im an ancap.jpg,oCyRZ/fjSYQzRk0iKyZQTQ==,PL,,1493648649 123611319,123652665,2017-05-01 14:27:24,">>123611319 >willingly letting yourself get exploited by the bourgeoisie neck yourselves",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493648844 123611319,123654003,2017-05-01 14:38:46,">>123652265 Private borders. >>123652665 I am the bourgeois.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493649526 123611319,123654407,2017-05-01 14:42:23,"This is probably a very basic question, but what are your stances on monopolies and competition? Let's say that there are three companies A, B, and C producing a product in a specific field. Company A acquires B and C and now has a monopoly, this would obviously stifle innovation and in most cases drive up the prices. A small start-up, Company D (for all intents and purposes) are now trying to enter the market with a product that is superior to what company A is producing but they lack the capital to promote their product. Company A sees them as a threat and do whatever they can to squelch the competition and ultimately they succeed. This seems like an evident problem just by a cursory glance at laissez-faire. What mechanisms (if any) would be used to prevent such a scenario from playing out?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1493649743 123611319,123654440,2017-05-01 14:42:40,">>123652265 I don't think you've read Hoppe anon.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493649760 123611319,123655677,2017-05-01 14:53:06,">>123639266 So now ancaps believe the state is a legitimate property ""owner?"" Is that a joke? Your actual argument is that individuals can't come here because the government (which ancaps reject as an illegitimate, predatory and criminal organization) owns the land? Is that the argument HHH makes? Bizarre...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493650386 123611319,123655883,2017-05-01 14:54:47,">>123640814 Really starting to sound like religious doctrine you are sprouting here.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493650487 123611319,123656814,2017-05-01 15:01:52,">>123655677 Individuals cant go whenever they want because unlike goodies and merchandise its not voluntary (i can decide to buy something or not but i cant decide if i want you in my city/district or not so its a violation of NAP)",,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,IT,,1493650912 123611319,123657247,2017-05-01 15:05:37,">>123654003 >Private borders. >>123654440 >I don't think you've read Hoppe anon. >And apart from the specific restrictions imposed on visitors by individual resident-owners regarding the use of their various private properties, there may also exist more general local entry restrictions. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ He says that there might be some other than private property restrictions (which means statist) >There may be identity controls not only at ports of entry, but also at the local level, in order to keep out known criminals and otherwise undesirable riffraff. He wants identity controls but how is it possible without government? Why would private airports control identity of their customers? How would they do that if there would be no government giving ID cards? He's just a fucking statist which is equal to being a fucking bolshevik, admit that altright fags",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1493651137 123611319,123657357,2017-05-01 15:06:29,">>123656814 >Individuals cant go whenever they want Find me a few economists (besides Hoppe), libertarian or not, who believes that restricting movement from city to city is an economically sound idea. You won't because it is a monumentally retarded idea.",,Anonymous,1491630347145.jpg,M00as75O3OFElUfifI62Zw==,US,,1493651189 123611319,123658051,2017-05-01 15:12:11,">>123657357 Maybe its retarded not made people choose if they want people in or not?Or what people they want?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1493651531 123611319,123658100,2017-05-01 15:12:35,">>123657357 The point isn't if it would be across the board or not but that land owners could make that decision themselves, and to what degree, through their sovereign right of ownership. Being a libertarian is fun because every argument against it is a strawman or an extreme taken outside of the model of the system suggested. It's fun being right all the time and without fail.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493651555 123611319,123658275,2017-05-01 15:13:58,">>123657357 If we all ate rice it would be ""economically sound"". We would be able to dedicate our resources elsewhere instead of having so many people dedicated to the production of food. Economically sound doesn't necessarily mean better. Some people value variety of food, and some covenants will value restrictive movement within them.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493651638 123611319,123658512,2017-05-01 15:16:00,">>123611319 >>123611667 >>123611811 >>123611880 >>123612259 >>123613187 >>123613430 >>123614078 >>123614515 >>123614757 >>123615255 >>123616272 >>123616292 >>123616706 >>123617115 >>123617186 >>123617504 >>123617509 >>123617600 >>123617891 >>123617912 >>123618205 >>123618336 >>123618444 >>123618521 >>123618590 >>123618747 >>123619093 >>123619171 >>123619284 >>123619377 >>123619526 >>123619694 >>123619695 >>123619755 >>123619896 >>123619924 >>123620015 >>123620059 >>123620078 >>123620216 >>123620356 >>123620560 >>123620616 >>123620738 >>123620770 >>123620924 >>123621045 >>123621120 >>123621207 >>123621224 >>123621414 >>123621536 >>123621552 >>123621739 >>123621896 >>123621975 >>123621985 >>123622014 >>123622025 >>123622215 >>123622424 >>123622472 >>123622525 >>123622580 >>123622581 >>123622612 >>123622721 >>123622757 >>123622933 >>123622973 >>123623109 >>123623293 >>123623312 >>123623343 >>123623414 >>123623480 >>123623537 >>123623577 >>123623652 >>123623742 >>123623759 >>123623767 >>123623991 >>123624317 >>123624642 >>123624799 >>123625193 >>123625213 >>123625357 >>123625378 >>123625632 >>123625941 >>123626223 >>123626435 >>123626439 >>123626519 >>123626616 >>123626618 >>123626700 >>123626710 >>123626861 >>123626876 >>123626936 >>123627028 >>123627124 >>123627192 >>123627263 >>123627467 >>123627581 >>123627670 >>123627747 >>123627757 >>123627848 >>123627907 >>123628213 >>123628386 >>123628585 >>123628694 >>123628895 >>123628963 >>123629319 >>123629323 >>123629433 >>123629637 >>123629900 >>123630286 >>123630488 >>123630800 >>123630835 >>123631385 >>123631482 >>123632166 >>123633323 >>123633396 >>123633957 >>123634161 >>123634364 >>123634451 >>123635502 >>123635732 >>123635935 >>123637368 >>123637743 >>123638174 >>123638500 >>123638739 >>123638749 >>123639266 >>123639410 >>123639533 >>123639685 >>123639689 >>123639759 >>123639955 >>123640128 >>123640335 >>123640503 >>123640529 >>123640611 >>123640814 >>123640830 >>123641014 >>123641051 >>123641493 N-notice me senpai!",,Anonymous,88f.gif,hGuzJeceoS8VT56oxCSmzg==,NL,,1493651760 123611319,123658961,2017-05-01 15:19:29,">>123658100 >>123658100 >>123658275 If you believe that it is okay to restrict people's ability to move between cities, you're not libertarian. Not even close. It's funny how you guys have basically re-invented soviet communism but convinced yourself that it is actually libertarian.",,Anonymous,1491605672328.jpg,mph/ssPerxf6S5KrMcFwBg==,US,,1493651969 123611319,123659042,2017-05-01 15:20:13,">>123658100 >Being a libertarian is fun because every argument against it is a strawman or an extreme taken outside of the model of the system suggested. It's fun being right all the time and without fail. This is true. Once you ""see the matrix"" of Hoppean libertarianism there's nothing you can't answer.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493652013 123611319,123659103,2017-05-01 15:20:46,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493652046 123611319,123659212,2017-05-01 15:21:33,">>123654407 >whatever they can This it's the key point, do they have to violate the NAP in order to?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1493652093 123611319,123659245,2017-05-01 15:21:50,">>123657247 lamo your its like we listen to different people >the private citizen determines who >the airport would be in a citystate esque community so unless they want to break the voluntary agreement of discrimination that they made when joining that town, they'll play ball",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493652110 123611319,123659694,2017-05-01 15:25:28,">>123657247 That makes one a Minarchist not a communist. You're clearly trolling, fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493652328 123611319,123660007,2017-05-01 15:27:49,">>123658961 >private borders are not libertarian >you guys are actually soviet communists",,Anonymous,holyshit.jpg,WuLLEW1WkGxDb9UrfgpNBA==,US,,1493652469 123611319,123660008,2017-05-01 15:27:50,">>123658961 >If you believe that it is okay to restrict people's ability to move between cities, you're not libertarian This is like saying that if we believe it is okay to use walls and doors in your house we're not libertarians. It just doesn't make sense once you conceive that cities in ancap-world are private property. Taking the utilitarian view of what is and isn't economically sound is what ends up with authoritarian regimes. The moment you're arrogant enough to believe that you can project what you value onto others, that moment you are de-facto becoming an enemy of freedom.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493652470 123611319,123660232,2017-05-01 15:29:28,">all these faggots with no reading comprihension as hoppe said the right wing libertarian movement is fated with being almost exclusively stocked with white hetero males",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493652568 123611319,123660927,2017-05-01 15:34:30,">>123660007 >>123660008 >People can't travel from city to city >This is somehow compatible with a free market economy You guys just lost all credibility. You have no understanding of economics if you genuinely believe this is a practical idea.",,Anonymous,1492216355988.png,PBJSiEEPWURvCD3q1YJWQw==,US,,1493652870 123611319,123661337,2017-05-01 15:37:36,">>123660927 and you know nothing, your not even trying Why can't a community of christians disallow Muslims? why can't a community of fags disallow straight guys? you are not thinking at all",,Anonymous,Hans on immagrations.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,US,,1493653056 123611319,123661434,2017-05-01 15:38:20,">>123660927 what if i traded with someone in a mutual location but didn't want them to enter my city? or what if they only entered then left once the 'economic' trade was done?",,Anonymous,download.jpg,NEvwuHJlnWsM0OQow77uBg==,GB,,1493653100 123611319,123661776,2017-05-01 15:41:02,">>123661434 save some of these >>123661337 ammo against the tards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493653262 123611319,123661843,2017-05-01 15:41:30,,,Anonymous,1492396468262.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,US,,1493653290 123611319,123661889,2017-05-01 15:41:52,,,Anonymous,1492396492581.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,US,,1493653312 123611319,123661932,2017-05-01 15:42:12,,,Anonymous,1492396523789.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,US,,1493653332 123611319,123661940,2017-05-01 15:42:16,">>123661337 Because in order to have a free market, people have to be able to move around to some extent. Hoppe is a drooling retard if he doesn't understand this, and so are you. >>123661434 What if people could just drive from city to city like they do today? Sounds like a good plan to be me!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493653336 123611319,123662001,2017-05-01 15:42:41,,,Anonymous,1492396591663.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,US,,1493653361 123611319,123662172,2017-05-01 15:44:04,">>123661940 so what you are saying is that it is perfectly viable to drive to a friends house, park outside, exchange some gifts, then drive back to mine? so this is a libertarian transaction with respect to private property?",,Anonymous,thinking_man_PNG11606.png,9SDN4rmUC0sAY+pJEijBPA==,GB,,1493653444 123611319,123662300,2017-05-01 15:45:08,">>123661940 So in all these contries where people can't move freely(immagration laws) you're saying that they don't have free trade? need i remind you of nafta and other agreements? it doesn't mean free movement of people but of good, how do you not understand that, just because i don't want muzzies and they dont' want me doesn't mean i don't some top kebabs and whatever else they produce, and vice versa",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493653508 123611319,123662486,2017-05-01 15:46:36,">>123662300 Name 1 country that prevents people from freely moving from city to city. There was once such a country, it was called the Soviet Union.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493653596 123611319,123662536,2017-05-01 15:47:04,">>123611319 Daily reminder that libertarianism is NOT /pol/itcally INcorrect.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493653624 123611319,123662539,2017-05-01 15:47:05,">>123660927 What free market as to do with people freedom of travel? Are you implying that for free market a no borders policy is needed? >muh we're all citizens of the Earth Reality is not a Star Trek episode, buddy.",,Anonymous,hoppe pr2.jpg,b/etGfl+yfQ1FCzViu3o7g==,IT,,1493653625 123611319,123662763,2017-05-01 15:48:51,"Why isn't the bumblebee the official mascot for Ancap? >black and yellow >indepedent >hard worker >will only sting if you violate the NAP Let's make some bee memes.",,Anonymous,bumble-bee.jpg,CD7+aDwuM42pVuufTBbJrQ==,US,,1493653731 123611319,123662787,2017-05-01 15:49:06,">>123662539 >What free market as to do with people freedom of travel? Because if you can't move around, your options are severely limited. Unless you literally never go outside your city, you'd understand this. Hell, many people live in 1 city and then commute to another city to work during the day. What happens to those people? They are forced to starve, I suppose.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493653746 123611319,123662960,2017-05-01 15:50:28,">>123662486 there was city states which practically filled all the requirements i speak of and btw you are just moving goal posts, and using a false comparison. you need to understand that libertarinism is a radical change to life style not just a slight reform of the system",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493653828 123611319,123663063,2017-05-01 15:51:15,">>123662763 mason bees and cutters are independent, but they are not black and yellow",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493653875 123611319,123663064,2017-05-01 15:51:15,">>123662787 what if i worked in one city then lived in another according to the rules of both cities?",,Anonymous,thinking_man_PNG11599.png,D0UDNtw86bT/PVlFxg14aA==,GB,,1493653875 123611319,123663081,2017-05-01 15:51:23,">>123658961 Private property is the epitome of libertarianism. Your home is essentially your own state. As a more natsoc fan I find this retarded. Easily leads to degenerate behavior that breaks the social fabric of a nation and in the end... the nation itself. Rendering that private right useless if you can sustain the relationship between other people's private rights. Registration of rights from the state is the better method. A partial private property. More than a loan, but not outright sovereignty.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493653883 123611319,123663182,2017-05-01 15:52:12,,,Anonymous,C-aRpzPW0AE93xx.jpg,ayHW4lJtl9wY3rkjt3+t0Q==,US,,1493653932 123611319,123663186,2017-05-01 15:52:16,">>123663081 >if you can sustain cannot*",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493653936 123611319,123663226,2017-05-01 15:52:35,">>123662960 My point is that this idea is the economic equivalent of putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger. If people can't move freely to some extent then the entire economy collapses.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493653955 123611319,123663328,2017-05-01 15:53:27,">>123663064 People can already do that now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493654007 123611319,123663378,2017-05-01 15:53:48,>it's the classcuck thread,,Anonymous,capitalism.jpg,B6QJP5VjOVtU0O/rX092Sg==,NL,,1493654028 123611319,123663439,2017-05-01 15:54:20,">>123663226 what if there was a central city where goods and services were exchanged then for everything else people can go back to their own cities?",,Anonymous,thoughtful-man-with-a-hand-on-his-chin_1187-2930.jpg,FJddVXhhWOHaYhVoCztpCA==,GB,,1493654060 123611319,123663564,2017-05-01 15:55:21,">>123663328 so you're saying it is perfectly viable as in my example, and in accordance with libertarianism?",,Anonymous,thinking_man_PNG11611.png,WD8xZWrgHQ6qQQ3NNpYM4g==,GB,,1493654121 123611319,123663611,2017-05-01 15:55:42,">>123663378 Cigarette related death are capitalism's fault lol ok",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493654142 123611319,123663669,2017-05-01 15:56:07,">>123659212 What if they do and what if they don't? Clearly not that poster nor an ancap (but a classical liberal/moderate libertarian) but this scenario has always intrigued me and I have received different answers from different ancaps, making it seem to me like there isn't one unified ""correct"" ancap solution to this scenario. If they don't is it all well and good in the ancap world despite the end result being a lesser product and the halting of overall progress? If they do, then what of it? In the scenario where Company A is a quite sizeable entity, big enough to control a market of a product(s) to any real extent then it can impose superior military (via the use of private military companies) might in case of retaliation/self defense caused by breaking the NAP. Now of course that activity can and probably will cause negative PR but taking from real life examples few companies outright die because of such event (most just rebrand and it's all well and good) but if in this scenario the product(s) company A has a monopoly on could and would be a necessity then even if an individual takes slight with how A broke a NAP he would have no choice but to support company A to get the needed product. Of course a large collective (working within the bounds of voluntary association of course) could ""overthrow"" company A but this whole scenario just sounds to me like a tug of war between corporatism and some sort of voluntary collectivism with progress taking a back seat.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493654167 123611319,123663674,2017-05-01 15:56:09,">>123663439 That would be economically retarded.",,Anonymous,1491007571768.jpg,bzq6gX1OXB5qnFgSnY8DWA==,US,,1493654169 123611319,123663769,2017-05-01 15:56:55,">>123663226 That's why you don't own private property, you register it from the state and pay taxes to sustain the mechanism to allow the flow of produce from property to property. Socialism. Want to go better? In order to protect that state - engage enthusiasm in the culture of the state to protect it. Nationalism. Combine the two. Nationalism. Socialism. National Socialism.",,Anonymous,483c7ee8ac014b3899ab41f1af7f8b8aacd50982f2906cfcf69041560123a77e.jpg,oo3GEa2UCmLg3k13m9CSZw==,AU,,1493654215 123611319,123663775,2017-05-01 15:56:57,">>123663226 but its not, seriously. the entire idea isnt' that you'd be restricted, becasue you'd have free choice of where to stay and to make your own town, also are you really implying that all cities are gonna say NO ONE CAN ENTER OR LEAVE, itll be based on their needs and prefrences, and by your own logic if people that can't move around the all the lands of earth freely(which nobody can) then the economy will collapse, which is clearly not the case",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493654217 123611319,123663777,2017-05-01 15:56:58,Absolutely fantastic trolling by OP here. This thinking man person who has been shitting up the threads with his dumb questions is getting a taste of his own medicine.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493654218 123611319,123663856,2017-05-01 15:57:44,">>123663564 I'm honestly not even sure. The ""rules"" of Loppean Libertarianism are so esoteric that I'm not sure if anything is allowed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493654264 123611319,123663911,2017-05-01 15:58:12,">>123663439 thats just silly, but will naturally arise as all trade hubs do, its not nessecary to designate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493654292 123611319,123663937,2017-05-01 15:58:26,">>123663674 so what you are saying is that the entire economic model of london, where all the businesses are in the middle, and all the commuters live on the outside around the m25, is economically retarded? the most economically advanced city in the world, is retarded?",,Anonymous,london business man meets a commie.jpg,XYWU8w1uwuJ1EDz3DODSPw==,GB,,1493654306 123611319,123664124,2017-05-01 15:59:58,">>123663856 so you don't understand libertarianism at all, but you are willing to lecture others on its faults?",,Anonymous,6495107ea5d023e951bc90a9751a94f8_thinkingman.png,HsqPcEIYaCwDZyc3glnYcg==,GB,,1493654398 123611319,123664130,2017-05-01 16:00:02,">>123617186 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493654402 123611319,123664137,2017-05-01 16:00:06,">>123663937 London's economy has issues. It would be better if the banks were centralized and interest eliminated. But somebody wouldn't like that.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493654406 123611319,123664143,2017-05-01 16:00:07,">>123663856 its really not, just listen to his books on jewtube if nothing else, i know they are long but when you listen to at least this one, you'll understand https://youtu.be/0Z9RXZvyKAk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493654407 123611319,123664414,2017-05-01 16:02:22,">>123660927 Private property is not part of the free market. You can't just march onto land that isn't yours without the permission of the owner, in the same way that you cannot buy something that is not for sale by its owner.",,Anonymous,ribbital removal.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,US,,1493654542 123611319,123664464,2017-05-01 16:02:45,>>123663777,,Anonymous,1478178265527.jpg,8XzopDODgoOdzLfjppdsig==,GB,,1493654565 123611319,123664568,2017-05-01 16:03:40,">>123611319 Libertarians are the worst people they are pro Jewish capitalism, and pro degeneracy",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1493654620 123611319,123664576,2017-05-01 16:03:44,">>123663937 So if you can accomplish these results in a statist environment, what's the point of libertarianism? Why shouldn't everybody just copy statist London? >>123664414 >Private property is not part of the free market. Anything that can be readily bought or sold is part of the free market.",,Anonymous,1451708261474.jpg,s2dCHccGkkl+nPC8xGrIMw==,US,,1493654624 123611319,123664704,2017-05-01 16:04:39,">>123664568 This. Literally pedos trying to run from god.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493654679 123611319,123664743,2017-05-01 16:04:58,">>123664576 are you really this dense?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493654698 123611319,123664822,2017-05-01 16:05:37,">>123664576 so what you are saying is, is that progress has reached a peak, and can never be surpassed? so now we've invented a sword, there is no need to invent a gun?",,Anonymous,39050391-Portrait-of-thinking-man-Stock-Photo-confused.jpg,rMoYHNlwVkUlAek26jpZ5w==,GB,,1493654737 123611319,123664895,2017-05-01 16:06:08,">>123664576 Good lord, what doctrine do you subscribe to that says everything ever is for sale in the free market? Confirmed troll. Get off my board.",,Anonymous,Charkasya.png,eIeOWvQQC96XfN7fouZFTw==,US,,1493654768 123611319,123665052,2017-05-01 16:07:21,">>123664895 Materialists think that, truly cancer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493654841 123611319,123665236,2017-05-01 16:08:48,">>123664895 >what doctrine do you subscribe to that says everything ever is for sale in the free market? Capitalism.",,Anonymous,s4dTtBy.jpg,rvHGDaxbyOUhhuLyq76EiQ==,US,,1493654928 123611319,123665423,2017-05-01 16:10:05,">>123665236 so things not for sale are for sale? seems illogical",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493655005 123611319,123665497,2017-05-01 16:10:36,Property is a spook of the mind.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493655036 123611319,123665569,2017-05-01 16:11:01,">>123665236 >if it can be bought and sold, it is automatically for sale >capitalism >free market Done with you. Shouldn't have bitten this bait.",,Anonymous,no-step-on-fesh.jpg,h+BJ8Gu5jg+oCXw1qVb2Hw==,US,,1493655061 123611319,123665618,2017-05-01 16:11:23,">>123665497 spooks are spooks, stop spooking your self",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493655083 123611319,123665849,2017-05-01 16:13:10,">>123611880 >people get tured of air pollution >begins consuming environmentally friendly technology >demand increases for such technology >production of environmental technology outcompetes environmentally destructive technology The free market can solve the environment issue",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1493655190 123611319,123667009,2017-05-01 16:21:25,,,Anonymous,1492864963024.jpg,MFm8z2rYtUOLLS8Q9TZbLQ==,US,,1493655685 123611319,123667079,2017-05-01 16:21:49,,,Anonymous,1492871034317.jpg,p5M6av1cG2CPFW3QmZAAtw==,US,,1493655709 123611319,123667441,2017-05-01 16:24:32,">>123611319 cant stop automation. you inbred retards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493655872 123611319,123667534,2017-05-01 16:25:10,">>123667441 >implying automation will kill libertarinism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493655910 123611319,123667913,2017-05-01 16:27:57,">>123667534 > no jobs > no economy >???????????",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493656077 123611319,123668601,2017-05-01 16:32:59,">>123667913 omg what if Aliens land and take every single individual human job in existence. what will we do",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493656379 123611319,123668702,2017-05-01 16:33:52,">>123664137 >interest eliminated why would they loan anything if they dont get any profit from it?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1493656432 123611319,123668776,2017-05-01 16:34:22,">>123663669 Anyone? I don't intent to play a political ideology ""gotcha"" game, I just want to educate myself and have a dialog about shit that matters unlike that rest of the thread that is perfectly content making and replying to bait.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493656462 123611319,123669039,2017-05-01 16:36:23,"Daily reminder that the free market will never happen in your lifetime unless you overthrow the govt Pinochet was a Jewish puppet",,Anonymous,Le pinochio meem.jpg,YxAW3gqxQ3pi2cqIJCytzg==,BR,,1493656583 123611319,123669388,2017-05-01 16:38:59,">>123668601 grow up shithead all jobs besides roofing will be took by mr roboto the aliens have already landed you dense motherfucker. pullout your damn smartphone that thing could do your fucking job right now. if programed right. /g/ will tell you your fucking nap wont save you from the machines taking your lame ass low paying job.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493656739 123611319,123670227,2017-05-01 16:45:29,">>123669388 >Implying automation isn't 100% inevitable in every system except anarcho-primitivism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493657129 123611319,123670821,2017-05-01 16:50:01,Are statists adherents to slave morality?,,Anonymous,nietzschetarianism.jpg,yDXFGR4Y62um68AP1HKflQ==,US,,1493657401 123611319,123671963,2017-05-01 16:58:48,">>123667913 >1700s >implying basic machinery will kill farming >no jobs, no economy!!!111",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493657928 123611319,123673273,2017-05-01 17:08:29,">>123671963 Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493658509 123611319,123673285,2017-05-01 17:08:36,">>123671963 this was never an argument horses though would disagree with you machinery killed off horse jobs in turn killed off horse population. you are the next horse you inbred chunk of shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493658516 123611319,123673567,2017-05-01 17:10:34,">>123663378 You don't know what a capitalistic state is, and you Sir a retard.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493658634 123611319,123673844,2017-05-01 17:12:35,">>123673285 >1800s >implying machinery won't kill horses won't kill the economy >no jobs!111",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493658755 123611319,123674342,2017-05-01 17:16:23,">>123673844 all you can do is spout rhetoric bullshit. you have no real argument for your pending doom yet you chose to accept your fate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493658983 123611319,123674800,2017-05-01 17:19:52,">>123674342 How is it possibly impending doom? Machinery will do low-skilled jobs, allowing others to achieve high-skilled jobs that only humans can do? Just because you're an uneducated, unskilled, authoritarian Nazi LARPer who works at burger king and reads about his own impending doom, doesn't mean others share the same conclusion. Evolve and adapt, nigger. Necessity is the mother of invention.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493659192 123611319,123675183,2017-05-01 17:22:49,">someone has invented a seed and has grown a plantation >fucking fuck all us hunter gatherers are fucked!!11 >ban seeds",,Anonymous,1460819489020.png,uHhMYcuNaTD/Cbq4yS3Ifg==,GB,,1493659369 123611319,123675426,2017-05-01 17:24:28,">>123673285 >>this was never an argument The fuck are you talking about? I know people alive today (usually living looking at the ground since their backs are stuck in a 90 degree angle due to hard labor) that were scared for their jobs, tilling the land when plow tractors started circulating in the consumer market. Ignorant post all around.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493659468 123611319,123676103,2017-05-01 17:30:27,">>123663669 Private, one-company-military is not effective against insurance-type security. Private law is engaged through direct insurance, which then leads to third party, mutually selected arbitration in case of having different insurances. Refusal to resolve conflicts in a peaceful manner is a declaration of war, if I refuse to be exposed to law then I'm an outlaw, and no company can sustain war without losing all their market. It would be way easier to just try to buy the other company at birth or try to spend the resources buying every employee instead of a costly war. In a bounty-hunter/free lawyer kind of style, the reward for defeating someone who refuses to resolve conflicts peacefully is enormous. Insurers would ally to siege that company and nobody would bat an eye. You need to consider that if I refuse to honor the law then I should expect no law will protect me, so I can't then demand a fair ruling or a settlement, they will take everything I have. Unprovoked war is a primitive behavior, one of people who have little/nothing to lose. Being an outlaw is not fun or profitable. No sense in throwing all your wealth down the drain just because your throne is threatened.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493659827 123611319,123676124,2017-05-01 17:30:39,">>123674342 Nobody can prevent automation. It will happen no matter what anybody does. Unless you plan on becoming Unabomber II and destroying modern civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493659839 123611319,123676519,2017-05-01 17:34:14,"What do you think allowed people to work 8 hours, if not the fact that with 8 hours of work we could cover all our daily needs thanks to productivity growth? Nowadays, I could live for a month with one day's work better than my grandfather would have with 30 days of working 14 hours 80 years ago. Fucking thank you, robots.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493660054 123611319,123676562,2017-05-01 17:34:37,">>123673285 What do you think allowed people to work 8 hours, if not the fact that with 8 hours of work we could cover all our daily needs thanks to productivity growth? Nowadays, I could live for a month with one day's work better than my grandfather would have with 30 days of working 14 hours 80 years ago. Fucking thank you, robots.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493660077 123611319,123676861,2017-05-01 17:36:56,">>123676103 In an ancap world I assume the same saying is true, albeit modified to ""It's not breaking the NAP if they don't catch you"". Making the assumption that multi-billion dollar companies won't have the covert illegal means to squash start ups or small companies that compete with their monopoly is just plain naive.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493660216 123754234,123754234,2017-05-02 06:36:10,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - THERE CAN BE NO TOLERANCE TOWARDS COMMUNISTS AND DEMOCRATS,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1493706970 123754234,123754599,2017-05-02 06:41:25,,,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1493707285 123754234,123754619,2017-05-02 06:41:39,">>123754234 What's /lrg/'s stance on the EU's anime ban?",,Anonymous,SSkvSQL_d.jpg,soJvxnS/GR713nBDWLawfA==,PT,,1493707299 123754234,123754755,2017-05-02 06:43:30,">>123754619 The EU did not ban anime, but maybe they should.",,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,US,,1493707410 123754234,123755256,2017-05-02 06:50:43,,,Anonymous,GET OUT.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1493707843 123754234,123755443,2017-05-02 06:53:46,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS87gLDxYKo,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493708026 123754234,123756326,2017-05-02 07:06:22,,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag_0.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1493708782 123754234,123756419,2017-05-02 07:07:48,Stop paying taxes,,Anonymous,sbwsbWJh.jpg,/KgUBOf/j26fc8AxMGD4Tw==,AU,,1493708868 123754234,123757562,2017-05-02 07:24:44,"BTC bump. Proof that Libertarian monetary policy > Statist monetary policy.",,Anonymous,Screenshot 2017-05-02 at 12.24.03.png,FD5MzRlXy7uJzGlxPkmQ3g==,GB,,1493709884 123754234,123758215,2017-05-02 07:34:37,">>123757562 >Tfw I thought BTC was a meme and never got them when they were cheap.",,Anonymous,1475855545692.png,s4JiDLxsC5FS9BTNG4ftzQ==,US,,1493710477 123754234,123758596,2017-05-02 07:40:10,">>123758215 I have some terrific screencaps from /g/, /pol/ and even /biz/ back in the day on exactly this. On another device though but they are always good fun to read.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493710810 123754234,123759097,2017-05-02 07:46:32,">>123754234 Socialism by any other name is still aggression and warrants physical removal.",,Anonymous,1492201745196.jpg,YwM6kFM7nT9dMkpW9mxJnA==,US,,1493711192 123754234,123759901,2017-05-02 07:57:25,">>123759097 Indeed, non-aggression is null and void when dealing with unethical commies.",,Anonymous,1491774328231_0.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1493711845 123754234,123760236,2017-05-02 08:02:08,">>123758215 >>123758596 i bought/mined $500 of bitcoin when it was 25 cents sold when they hit a dollar and made 1500, didn't reinvest any as i thought it was surely a bubble at 1... then 10...",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493712128 123754234,123760452,2017-05-02 08:05:15,">>123760236 Tongue and cheek video on that same vain... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbZ8zDpX2Mg",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493712315 123754234,123760852,2017-05-02 08:10:56,">>123760452 Do you run the lrg website?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493712656 123754234,123760943,2017-05-02 08:12:16,">>123754234 God Bless ""You are not my REAL father""land",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1493712736 123754234,123761603,2017-05-02 08:21:06,"I was shooting heroin and reading Ayn Rand's “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief. “Bad news, detective. We got a situation.” “What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?” “Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.” The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?” “Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.” “Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.” He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.” “Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.” I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside. “Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.",,Anonymous,546546242.gif,BA3JjhXpkl7Um4dVQrDf7g==,US,,1493713266 123754234,123761659,2017-05-02 08:21:56,">>123761603 Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up. “Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?” It didn’t seem like they did. “Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.” Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing. I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it. “Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled. Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him. “Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen. I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!” He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.",,Anonymous,GHD1ttco8po1_1280.jpg,ldh4yMfloxTW3uh40N8a5Q==,US,,1493713316 123754234,123761700,2017-05-02 08:22:34,">>123761603 >what is insurance Next. >>123760852 Yes (badly)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493713354 123754234,123761739,2017-05-02 08:22:59,">>123759097 Interesting considering your talking heads such as that guy t and cantwell feel the opposite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utnowkjjAGg",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493713379 123754234,123761748,2017-05-02 08:23:06,">>123761659 “All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.” “Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy. “Because I was afraid.” “Afraid?” “Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.” I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head. “Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.” He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him. I tipped my fedora and said ""Pleasure doing business with you.""",,Anonymous,redcity01-cvr-100598.jpg,MqlVG/hSesJ64FEAM7SWHQ==,US,,1493713386 123754234,123762554,2017-05-02 08:34:21,">>123761700 How much do you pay to keep it up? (I'd like to up some shekels for the cause) Also is there any way I could help develop it? I know a bit of html and would love to contribute.",,Anonymous,eJwVzMENwyAMAMBdGAAbMEmTbRBBhCrUCLuvqLu3_d7jbvOel9nNqTpkBziaZJ6HFeWZarGVuV4ljSY2c4ekmvLZy0sFArp1QyS_0iNEiov7kfeR3IJbDIEIHULr__Y5qvl8AbvxIaw.jpg,905IAc5Mebn1An6RAdjBeg==,US,,1493714061 123754234,123763519,2017-05-02 08:46:35,">>123762554 Total cost was $268.92 for 36 months (inc. domain reg and privacy protection). Normally $5.95 a month but some tax thrown in too. You make the threads and enough OC as it 2bqh. >is there any way I could help develop it Yeah I'm sure there is. I just used wordpress and watched some basic tutorials and used me head. I have absolutely no experience in dev at all. Just felt like we needed something better than a pastebin and I've always wanted to make a site so thought fuck it.",,Anonymous,1491522158842.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,GB,,1493714795 123754234,123764500,2017-05-02 08:58:53,">>123763519 Based, in still gonna find a way to get some shekels to you. I'm scattered right now but I'm going to update the core reading list a bit and I've some content that might be worthy to display there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493715533 123754234,123765063,2017-05-02 09:06:17,">>123764500 Sweet. Well when you have that all sorted then say in these threads and I'll drop you an email or something. Best time for you to play around would be mid-July onwards as I'll be out the country travelling for quite a few weeks/months.",,Anonymous,hoppe migration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,GB,,1493715977 123754234,123765566,2017-05-02 09:12:19,">>123765063 Right on, we'll be in touch then.",,Anonymous,149324642925509.png,rA46o2SkZyZ0/Z0Td8deXg==,US,,1493716339 123775832,123775832,2017-05-02 11:02:47,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: NATURAL LAW edition,Anonymous,1493288276601.png,qOMwNUw+PBhJvlZvg5vbsw==,CA,,1493722967 123775832,123775960,2017-05-02 11:03:55,,,Anonymous,1490846168616.jpg,jOz5edPUrj7En2reUkxhdQ==,CA,,1493723035 123775832,123776028,2017-05-02 11:04:35,,,Anonymous,1491675080410.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,CA,,1493723075 123775832,123776115,2017-05-02 11:05:22,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,CA,,1493723122 123775832,123776385,2017-05-02 11:08:14,,,Anonymous,1491675143959.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,CA,,1493723294 123775832,123776698,2017-05-02 11:11:26,,,Anonymous,1493290373346.png,TlXsREldYp5NU0560S5ylA==,DE,,1493723486 123775832,123776868,2017-05-02 11:13:08,Go to reddit where you belong,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1493723588 123775832,123776895,2017-05-02 11:13:25,Bump wassap my dudes.,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag_0.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1493723605 123775832,123776928,2017-05-02 11:13:52,">>123776868 Fuck off potato nigger commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493723632 123775832,123777053,2017-05-02 11:15:12,">>123776868 Statists fuck off",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1493723712 123775832,123777196,2017-05-02 11:16:44,">>123776868 Fuck off /leftypol/",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493723804 123775832,123777220,2017-05-02 11:16:57,">>123776868 Only if you go back to Stormfront first, friend",,Anonymous,1493052680123.png,js6ltHNvAYlpcqxaxlR33A==,CA,,1493723817 123775832,123777603,2017-05-02 11:21:04,">>123775832 According to libertarian ethics, was it right or wrong for the Roman senators to stab Julius Caesar to death in a last-ditch attempt to save the Roman Republic?",,Anonymous,Death_Julius_Caesar.jpg,zUmPt1O0dgwKk2n4lEqG1w==,US,,1493724064 123775832,123777937,2017-05-02 11:24:30,">>123775832 Why is it that the ""Libertarian Right"" was literally created by wealthy Jewish capitalists and yet just like Antifas you act as if you somehow represent a threat to the establishment?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493724270 123775832,123778023,2017-05-02 11:25:26,">>123777937 >Why is it that the ""Libertarian Right"" was literally created by wealthy Jewish capitalists John Locke was Jewish ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493724326 123775832,123778234,2017-05-02 11:27:37,">>123777937 >implying the establishment would want to abolish taxes and government favors to big corporations",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493724457 123775832,123778297,2017-05-02 11:28:16,">>123775832 Sherri Few is Based!! https://youtu.be/lIUX97O11Vk",,Anonymous,IMG_8398.jpg,/dtRwjk6BGQcXhYwZ9gmpA==,US,,1493724496 123775832,123778374,2017-05-02 11:29:08,">>123778023 John Locke didn't create the Libertarian Right, you dishonest piece of shit. >>123778234 Educate yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB3MkTXPJ8Q",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493724548 123775832,123778592,2017-05-02 11:31:23,">>123778374 >John Locke didn't create the Libertarian Right, you dishonest piece of shit. Yet his contributions were foundational for libertarian philosophy",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493724683 123775832,123778805,2017-05-02 11:33:40,">>123778374 Jock Locke is the basis of libertarian philosophy also there isn't only him Frédéric de Basitat wasn't Jewish Gustave de Molinari wasn't Jewish you are applying guilt by association because you don't know shit about libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493724820 123775832,123779029,2017-05-02 11:35:55,"Competition and innovation are needed in this world because otherwise we would fall into destruction, we must keep feeding the society’s hunger or it would collapse, it’s a problem related to the scarcity and difficulties in which we live in. Life is not easy and everyday we have to wake up and survive or die.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493724955 123775832,123779091,2017-05-02 11:36:36,">>123778592 ... and? He didn't create the Libertarian Right. It was invented and founded by American Big Business in the 50's onwards. The philosophy you defend brought us Ronald Reagan and Maggie Thatcher. You think the ""free market cult"" is a new phenomena? AHAHAHA! There's nothing rebellious or anti-establishment about your philosophy. >hurrr durrr but we throw le commies out of helicopters xDD Go say that to Hoppe. I dare you. Go say to HH Hoppe that you want to throw communists and degenerates out of helicopters, that that's what you took from his philosophy. You stupid faggots are ruining the good name of Libertarianism with your larping bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493724996 123775832,123779250,2017-05-02 11:38:16,">>123779091 >It was invented and founded by American Big Business in the 50's onwards wrong it exists since the 19th century you're just uncultured",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493725096 123775832,123779354,2017-05-02 11:39:19,">>123779091 No group owns ideas. If you think it presents no threat to establishment, why the pope himself is speaking against it? why keynesian policies aren't done yet? why inflation is still 'good'?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493725159 123775832,123779422,2017-05-02 11:39:59,">>123778805 >you are applying guilt by association because you don't know shit about libertarianism LOL. You should learn the history of libertarianism before you spew more nonsense. Ahahah.... a ""libertarian"" saying he doesn't like anarchists and subversives. You people are a laugh riot. Ignorant fucks who believe the right-wing bullshit Americans calls libertarianism is libertarian in any way, shape or form.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493725199 123775832,123779499,2017-05-02 11:40:52,Just posting to confirm that these are the best generals on slash pole slash. Cripple pol has good threads on this too.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725252 123775832,123779610,2017-05-02 11:42:03,">>123779422 Fuck off Noam. Stay off my property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725323 123775832,123779836,2017-05-02 11:44:20,">>123779422 The State is the great fiction through which everyone endeavours to live at the expense of everyone else. -Frédéric de Bastiat sound very libertarian for me,and he was a goy born in 1801 will dodge this again and thin that you still know shit about libertariansim and call it a ""jewish plot""?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493725460 123775832,123779847,2017-05-02 11:44:35,">>123779354 >why keynesian policies aren't done yet? Because they work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725475 123775832,123779933,2017-05-02 11:45:24,">>123775832 Threadly reminder that your not really libertarians",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1493725524 123775832,123780024,2017-05-02 11:46:12,">>123779610 >right-wing ""libertarians"" defending theft Yup.",,Anonymous,libertarian coinage.jpg,THmwADKaaYa+kMZb/tvV0Q==,PT,,1493725572 123775832,123780050,2017-05-02 11:46:29,">>123779847 No, it's because they are enforced by the state. You couldn't do it without the state.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493725589 123775832,123780068,2017-05-02 11:46:39,">>123777937 Oy vey, let's tax the rich so they have no savings and have to go through jew bankers to get a loan to expand. It's the best system goys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725599 123775832,123780069,2017-05-02 11:46:40,">>123779847 In the short term that is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725600 123775832,123780146,2017-05-02 11:47:23,">>123779847 my country is 98% on debt,has a very high taxes,the ECB has very low interest rates and we have a overgrowing unemployment where is my recovery you hack ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493725643 123775832,123780163,2017-05-02 11:47:33,">>123779847 Keynesian economics is a load of horseshit",,Anonymous,why keynesianism is shit.png,Z/MRXULF8FIy6qVz43VAOA==,CA,,1493725653 123775832,123780217,2017-05-02 11:48:06,">>123780024 Libertarianism doesn't care about the ownership and meaning of words. If your movement is so weak that this original meaning is lost, too bad for you. We don't care.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493725686 123775832,123780235,2017-05-02 11:48:18,">>123780024 You can't steal that which is not property, idiot. Natural resources belong to those who labor for it. Triggered faggot?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725698 123775832,123780261,2017-05-02 11:48:30,"Why dont any of the RLP idiots actually know what property rights imply? ""Though the earth, and all inferior creatures be common to all men, yet every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has any right to but himself."" -- John Locke, 2nd Treatise of Government, Ch. 5 ""The property which every man has in his own labour, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable."" -- Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations, Bk 1, Ch. 10, Pt 2 ""The property rights that each citizen has in himself are the foundation of a free society."" -- James Bovard, Freedom In Chains, p. 86 ""Libertarianism begins with self ownership."" -- David Bergland, Libertarianism In One Lesson, p. 35 ""There is only one fundamental right (all others are its consequences or corollaries): a man's right to his own life. Life is a process of self-sustaining and self-generated action; the right to life means the right to engage in self-sustaining and self-generated action--which means: the freedom to take all the actions required by the nature of a rational being for the support, the furtherance, the fulfillment and the enjoyment of his own life…Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life."" -- Ayn Rand, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, pp. 321-2 ""The right of life and liberty--that is to say, the right of the man to himself--is not really one right and the right of property another right. They are two aspects of the same perception--the right of property being but another side, a differently stated expression, of the right of man to himself. The right of life and liberty, and the right of the individual to himself, presupposes and involves the right of property, which is the exclusive right of the individual to the things his exertion has produced."" -- Henry George, A Perplexed Philosopher, p. 210",,Anonymous,willy.jpg,f5IEpTYdzB/nJ7KEauYaCQ==,US,,1493725710 123775832,123780277,2017-05-02 11:48:43,">>123779836 Man, you are a really stupid fuck. Dishonest too. Bastiat did not invent Right-wing Libertarianism. That was my main point and nothing you're posting is proving me wrong. Not only didn't he identify himself as a libertarian, he would use the term ""libertarian"" to refer to anarchists.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493725723 123775832,123780286,2017-05-02 11:48:46,">>123779933 >What is your money is directly being used and not spread out through the government and is used in ways you don't like.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725726 123775832,123780324,2017-05-02 11:49:07,">>123780068 This. Jews want you ambitious but poor. They want you dependent on banks. Bitcoin has hurt more jews than Hitler did.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493725747 123775832,123780336,2017-05-02 11:49:15,">>123779847 Japan is the greatest example of keynesian economics being wrong. It's been in stagnation for two decades because of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725755 123775832,123780338,2017-05-02 11:49:17,">>123775832 Sherri Few is Based https://youtu.be/lIUX97O11Vk",,Anonymous,IMG_8397.jpg,hw85jWAp3bzwbYLyFex+7w==,US,,1493725757 123775832,123780470,2017-05-02 11:50:30,">>123780217 >>123780235 >it's okay to steal ideas and concepts when we do it",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493725830 123775832,123780485,2017-05-02 11:50:38,">>123780277 he wanted to privatize the fucking military retard,how is that not libertarian ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493725838 123775832,123780529,2017-05-02 11:51:03,">>123779091 >libertarianism was inevnted in the 1950s No. Classical liberalism is libertarianism. The problem is that leftists hijacked the liberal term hence why classical libs began calling themselves libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725863 123775832,123780576,2017-05-02 11:51:27,">>123777220 >>>/leftypol/",,Anonymous,4d88403e3f69707450642ed2cb99e6f952a4b97990b4ff42e3a4e37a6235fd72.gif,Ok9hBtWY47Lvdd1P9ETMlw==,AU,,1493725887 123775832,123780591,2017-05-02 11:51:34,">>123780338 Stop shilling this cow",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493725894 123775832,123780618,2017-05-02 11:51:52,">>123780470 Yep. Ownership of ideas doesn't create any aditional wealth. Deal with it.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493725912 123775832,123780676,2017-05-02 11:52:26,">>123780050 Who cares? All those libertarian philosophers and economists lived in statist societies and happily benefited from the government's protection and law enforcement while writing their books, and I'm sure they went through the trouble to copyright their books as well so that they could profit from selling the rights to book printing companies. If we accept that premise that having any state means there is no legitimacy, then all those people are illegitimate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493725946 123775832,123780773,2017-05-02 11:53:14,">>123780618 >t. Mark Zuckerberg You even speak like a jew.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493725994 123775832,123780820,2017-05-02 11:53:38,">>123778374 >unironically linking a commie channel Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726018 123775832,123780823,2017-05-02 11:53:40,">>123780576 >leftypol >libertarian right general what?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493726020 123775832,123780824,2017-05-02 11:53:42,">>123780470 ""Intellectual property"" isn't a scarce resource and does not qualify as property, I'm about freedom, go ahead and copy me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726022 123775832,123780933,2017-05-02 11:54:44,">>123780773 isn't (((Hollywood))) for intellectual property ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493726084 123775832,123780950,2017-05-02 11:54:56,">>123780676 Yup... just like Noam Chomsky, the right-wing ""libertarians"" all live comfortable lives protected by the state. Even Ayn Rand lived on state's benefits in her later years.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493726096 123775832,123780954,2017-05-02 11:54:59,">>123780823 >uses a /leftypol/ meme you sound like the type of twat to say to anybody bringing up jewish subversion and influence ""hurrr durrr da jooos""",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493726099 123775832,123781116,2017-05-02 11:56:41,">>123780950 so u can't post on a computer becuz capitalists made it XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493726201 123775832,123781216,2017-05-02 11:57:37,"when will stormcucks ever realise that the ""muh joos"" argument is as ridiculous as the ""muh white people"" argument the left uses?",,Anonymous,18221895_1872825272742872_5702801242150340149_n.jpg,Awc39JL0ihp/weXQjbcJow==,BE,,1493726257 123775832,123781292,2017-05-02 11:58:25,">>123781216 KEK, great image. Saved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726305 123775832,123781307,2017-05-02 11:58:31,">>123781116 That would make sense if I were anti-capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493726311 123775832,123781354,2017-05-02 11:59:05,">>123781216 this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726345 123775832,123781369,2017-05-02 11:59:13,">>123781216 Its fucking retarded. 99% of articles against libertarianism are written by jews, but yeah, the 3 jewish figures in libertarianism means jews love libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493726353 123775832,123781374,2017-05-02 11:59:20,">>123781216 >There is no proof of jewish subversion of the west >cultural marxism doesnt exist goy why dont faggots like you stay on your subreddit or your degenerate anticom discord? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5va4dq_gG3M",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493726360 123775832,123781435,2017-05-02 11:59:56,">>123780676 I'm not aware of how these books where published. Still, I didn't hear any complaint about pirate libertarianism books, this would be against the movement. Before you say the state gave you something out of benevolence, you should know that Mises for example wasn't ancap. Libertarianism oppose to the power of the state, but not every libertarian is ancap. >>123780950 Oh, I'm so protected by the state that I don't even have to own guns and my chances of dying are very high. If I could just kiss the state for all the well-being it is providing me... >>123780773 Me? Nope. If you like DRM, you are being docile with big corporations who are in bed with the state.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493726396 123775832,123781463,2017-05-02 12:00:13,">>123780954 >/leftypol/ meme That image precedes /leftypol/ by 4 or 5 years, newfag.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493726413 123775832,123781497,2017-05-02 12:00:41,">>123781116 But this isn't ""real"" capitalism according to you. Stop trying to claim capitalist achievements that were produced in statist environments as ""proof"" that the state should be abolished. It's silly and hypocritical.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726441 123775832,123781555,2017-05-02 12:01:10,">>123781435 Alexandre?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493726470 123775832,123781564,2017-05-02 12:01:13,">>123775832 Podcast http://tomwoods.com/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726473 123775832,123781640,2017-05-02 12:02:00,">>123781374 when did i ever say cultural marxism isn't a problem?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1493726520 123775832,123781767,2017-05-02 12:03:20,">>123781463 prove it with 4plebs then",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726600 123775832,123781772,2017-05-02 12:03:24,,,Anonymous,Mein Kampf.jpg,jhMQRVk46B38PIuIFTWr1A==,US,,1493726604 123775832,123781789,2017-05-02 12:03:36,">>123781463 >Implying it isn't heavily/primarily used by /leftypol/ piss off you fucking twat. >>123781640 >jews aren't a problem and anyone talking about them is the same as an sjw you lot avoid the jq like the typical cowards.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493726616 123775832,123781823,2017-05-02 12:03:56,">>123781497 >produced in statist environments nice fridge door fallacy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726636 123775832,123781835,2017-05-02 12:04:02,">>123780950 >Even Ayn Rand lived on state's benefits in her later years. >have your money taken for decades >don't try to get it back when you can every fucking time read Atlas Shrugged before you criticize Rand retard",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493726642 123775832,123781945,2017-05-02 12:05:10,">>123781307 >if I were anti-capitalist. You're anti-capitalist, a sheep in the sheeple. Luckily we're here to guide you kid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726710 123775832,123781959,2017-05-02 12:05:15,">>123781772 I will. Hail Victory.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726715 123775832,123782020,2017-05-02 12:05:53,">>123781555 It's pretty astonishing to guess my name with trips in an anonymous board. Congratulations!",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493726753 123775832,123782033,2017-05-02 12:06:02,">>123781497 >But this isn't ""real"" capitalism according to you. strawman,capitalism doesn't always mean free-market,we are in corporatism/cronysm which means that some entreprizes are in bed with the government to stop competition but that doesn't mean we are not in capitalism I am for the free market because it's a more legitimate form of capitalism but it doesn't make our current situation not capitalism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493726762 123775832,123782136,2017-05-02 12:07:05,">>123776115 The only well-known libertarian writer whom I know to have explicitly, and at great length, opposed the idea of community collected user fees for natural resources is Murray Rothbard, which is odd, given his admiration for Albert Jay Nock and Frank Chodorov, who, in turn, revered Henry George. Rothbard apparently had extensive discussions with Georgists: If every man owns his own person and therefore his own labor, and if by extension he owns whatever property he has ""created"" or gathered out of the previously unused, unowned ""state of nature,"" then what of the last great question: the right to own or control the earth itself? ... It is at this point that Henry George and his followers, who have gone all the way so far with the libertarians, leave the track and deny the individual right to own the piece of land itself, the ground on which these activities have taken place. (pp. 33-34, For a New Liberty.) The following is taken from his The Ethics of Liberty. (p. 50, footnote 2): A modified variant of this ""Columbus Complex"" holds that the first discoverer of a new island or continent could properly lay claim to the entire continent by himself walking around it (or hiring others to do so), and thereby laying out a boundary for the area. In our view, however, their claim would still be no more than to the boundary itself, and not to any of the land within it, for only the boundary will have been transformed and used by man.",,Anonymous,"Poll tax, LVT, Income tax.png",vMTrYQ0YxJLGNAWpOt3grg==,US,,1493726825 123775832,123782199,2017-05-02 12:07:44,">>123776115 he following is taken from his The Ethics of Liberty. (p. 50, footnote 2): A modified variant of this ""Columbus Complex"" holds that the first discoverer of a new island or continent could properly lay claim to the entire continent by himself walking around it (or hiring others to do so), and thereby laying out a boundary for the area. In our view, however, their claim would still be no more than to the boundary itself, and not to any of the land within it, for only the boundary will have been transformed and used by man. With this statement, Rothbard may seem to have carried the ""first use"" doctrine to its illogical extreme. (If walking over some land constitutes transformation and use, then is it just one's footprints that one owns? Or does one's rightful claim extend out to all the underbrush one has cleared away? Or, can one claim land as far as the eye can see? This is the very definition of the word ""arbitrary."") But in his defense, to convert the claim into actual ownership would, Rothbard would say, require actual use (though we're again faced with the question of what constitutes ""use"" -- see p. 79, ""Anti-Rothbard...""). For example, earlier, in a Robinson Crusoe paradigm, he stated that Crusoe's ""true property--his actual control over material goods--would extend only so far as his actual labor brought them into production. His true ownership could not extend beyond the power of his own reach."" What, then, would Rothbard say about large American corporations owning, but not using, millions of acres of land, as some now do? He gives us his answer in an essay he wrote on Henry George's Land Value Tax idea, entitled ""The Single Tax: Economic and Moral Implications"" (FEE ""Special Essay Series,"" 1957). Here are a few examples from that work: ....",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1493726864 123775832,123782224,2017-05-02 12:08:01,">>123776115 Well, what about idle land? Should the sight of it alarm us? On the contrary, we should thank our stars for one of the great economic facts of nature: that labor is scarce relative to land...Since labor is scarce relative to land, and much land must therefore remain idle, any attempt to force all land into production would bring economic disaster. Forcing all land into use would take labor and capital away from more productive uses, and compel their wasteful employment on land, a disservice to consumers. [Emphasis Rothbard's.]",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726881 123775832,123782292,2017-05-02 12:08:35,">>123781497 >still thinking libertarianism means ancap The founding fathers were libertarian. Barry Goldwater (who would have been one of the greatest presidents) is libertarian. Rand Paul is libertarian. None of them are ancaps. Hayek and Friedman were not opposed to a state. Only Rothbard was.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493726915 123775832,123782472,2017-05-02 12:10:10,">>123776115 Of course, LVT would and could do no such thing, as those who strive to put idle land into productive use would have to bid against other land users for labor, and only the best uses of labor and land would win out. Thus, rather than forcing all land into use, LVT would discourage all but the most productive use of land, just as any market tends to allocate resources most wisely. Another thing that would happen is that the earnings of labor would increase due to increased competition for it, and (ideally) none of the produced wealth would go to landowners qua landowners. Let me rephrase Rothbard's last sentence in a way that makes sense: Forcing land users to pass over ideal idle land and utilize marginal land instead, is wasteful of human labor and natural opportunities, a disservice to all mankind and a boon only to landlords and land speculators. But here's the most embarrassing passage:",,Anonymous,marxandfriedmanonthesamepage.jpg,jQcX/dlW8Ly0ZxJ3JYAGYg==,US,,1493727010 123775832,123782532,2017-05-02 12:10:42,">>123776115 A 100% tax on rent would cause the capital value of all land to fall promptly to zero. Correct. Since owners could not obtain any net rent, the sites would become valueless on the market. False! They'd be valueless only to those market participants who wish only to speculate in land, not to those who wish to use land in some productive endeavor. From that point on, sites, in short, would be free. Wrong again. While it's true there'd be no sale price for vacant land, one would still have to pay the ground-rent to use it. Further, since all rent would be siphoned off to the government, there would be no incentive for owners to charge any rent at all. Wrong yet again. He's assuming the LVT would be set by an actual ground-rent charged by the landlord, rather than being an assessed value that would have to be recouped. And, I might add, total rental costs would tend to decrease as additional units come on the market as the monopoly stranglehold on land loses its grip. Rent would be zero as well, and rentals would thus be free. He continues to pound a straw man. The first consequence of the single tax, then, is that no revenue would accrue from it. He took a wrong turn, and just keeps going! Far from supplying all the revenue of government, the single tax would yield no revenue at all! For if rents are zero, a 100% tax on rents will also yield nothing. Rothbard then goes on to state, Compelling any economic goods to be free wreaks economic havoc...the result is to introduce complete chaos in land sites. Completely false. Even if LVT were applied at a national level, and there were no competition among municipalities for residents, people would still bid on the leases of occupied property, providing price information. (For more on this, see p. 97, ""How would LVT work?"")",,Anonymous,HenryGeorgeQuotes1.jpg,4y/Bp3fgaBctAI202sohcg==,US,,1493727042 123775832,123782585,2017-05-02 12:11:10,">>123776115 In Power and Market: Government and the Economy (second edition, 1977), Rothbard went even further into the realm of irrationality in his attempt to refute Georgist land theory (p. 131): Contrary to Georgist doctrine, however, the land problem does not stem from free-market ownership of ground land. I know of no Georgist who would ever use the phrase ""free-market"" in conjunction with our current, individual monopoly market in land. It stems from failure to live up to a prime condition of free-market property rights, namely, that new, unowned land be first owned by its first user, and that from then on, it become the full private property of the first user or those who receive or buy the land from him. [my emphasis] It is an obvious fiction that any use, however small or large the effort, should grant full private ownership for all time, unless we're talking about a make-believe world with unlimited land where access to all of it is instantaneous (i.e., where travel time is zero). This fiction ignores the fact that someone who, for example, puts up a fence and lets a cow graze, is much less the rightful ""owner"" of land than one who builds an industrial plant or a shopping mall. (For more on this, see p. 79, ""Anti-Rothbard..."")",,Anonymous,emmememe.jpg,ii2fbCLmnFokum3pcpYiXg==,US,,1493727070 123775832,123782932,2017-05-02 12:14:38,">>123782292 So you admit that Ancap is an inherently silly ideology? And yes, I agree that Goldwater would have been far better president than Lyndon ""How many kids did you kill today"" Johnson. The entire campaign against Goldwater is a case study of a successful smear campaign.",,Anonymous,$(KGrHqYOKpcFFysFy)lfBRjtBuDYvw~~60_57.jpg,Djn+ZiIDAq5AmSPgqzGetQ==,US,,1493727278 123775832,123783086,2017-05-02 12:16:06,">>123781374 you mad that jews have a higher IQ, are more attractve, and overall completely better than you? you should be mad, whitey scum ;)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493727366 123775832,123783722,2017-05-02 12:22:11,Give me a basic gestalt on pinochet. I've never heard of him outside of helicopter memes.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493727731 123775832,123783768,2017-05-02 12:22:38,">>123782585 you are operating on the assumption that surplus exists, when it has never been proven since you cant prove that surplus exists, you have no moral claim that ""theft"" is occuring If you don't have the moral claim that theft is occuring, you are not justified in ""expropriating"" private property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493727758 123775832,123783825,2017-05-02 12:23:05,">>123783086 israel average iq is 90",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493727785 123775832,123783995,2017-05-02 12:24:27,">>123783722 CIA put him into power. He made Chile's market a free market, fixed Chile and made it one of the strongest economies in South America. Threw communists out of helicopters.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493727867 123775832,123784034,2017-05-02 12:24:46,">>123783825 majority of Israeli Jews are Sephardi the intelligent ones are the Ashkenazi",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493727886 123775832,123784103,2017-05-02 12:25:21,">>123783825 there's a shit ton of Muslims in Israel",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493727921 123775832,123784997,2017-05-02 12:32:57,">>123783768 ""force,"" as such, is neither good nor bad. If used to defend one's person or property from aggressors, or to enforce payment of a rightful debt, it is a good thing. If used to harm the person or property of a non-consenting other, or to enforce payment of a wrongful debt, it is a bad thing. A tax on wages or interest implies that the income one receives in return for the exertion of one's labor, or for the use of one's capital goods, belongs (at least in part) to others. This conflicts with the basic libertarian principle that you have an exclusive right to the fruits of your labor. A tax on rent implies that the income one receives for the value of the land one holds belongs to others. Since land itself (1) is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and (2) is that to which all have an equal right of access; and since the rent of land (1) is not a return to labor, and (2) reflects the extent to which Locke's proviso has been violated, a ""tax"" on rent does not conflict with the principle that you have an exclusive right to the fruits of your labor, but is in fact a just and necessary means of upholding it. Thus, the part of one's income that is taken via taxation of wages and interest constitutes the enforcement of a wrongful debt, whereas the part of one's income that is taken via taxation of rent constitutes the enforcement of a rightful debt.",,Anonymous,Perfectly_inelastic_supply.svg.png,4Qx5dp7ZT4haW+J98gvitg==,US,,1493728377 123775832,123785112,2017-05-02 12:33:58,">>123783768 continued... ""As to what constitutes robbery, it is...the taking or withholding from another of that which rightfully belongs to him. That which rightfully belongs to him, be it observed, not that which legally belongs to him."" [Emphasis original] -- Henry George, Property In Land, p. 46. Still, critics will argue, a tax on rent involves the use of force, and is therefore wrong. The problem with this argument becomes evident when they are presented with the scenario of a tenant no longer able to pay a titleholder for the value of the land he is using, and then asked whether or not it would be legitimate to use force to remove the tenant from the titleholder's land. They typically answer yes to this question, and when pressed for an explanation, finally concede that yes, there is such a thing as a legitimate use of force when it comes to upholding a rightful debt. The dispute, then, is not over whether force, in and of itself, is right or wrong, but whether the debt in question is right or wrong -- i.e., whether or not the taxation of rent conflicts with the libertarian principle that each person has property in himself and, by extension, in the fruits of his labor. Geolibertarians hold that it does not so conflict, since rent, as mentioned before, is not a return to labor. Rent is in fact a return to land, meaning the percentage of one's income one could receive simply by renting out the land one holds to someone else. Yet to whom does this value rightfully belong? Since land values derive, not from what titleholders do, but from the extent to which ""others"" (particularly those who make up the surrounding ""community"") are denied access to land they wish to use, and to which they have an equal right of access, it follows that this value is rightfully owed to these others, while wrongfully owed to titleholders. All individuals have an equal right to land, so all have an equal right to the rental value thereof.",,Anonymous,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,US,,1493728438 123775832,123785199,2017-05-02 12:34:33,">>123775832 What's wrong with legalizing marijuana from a libertarian perspective?",,Anonymous,marijuana-1114713_960_720.jpg,6FCB0rP3twzIHJjsR++aDw==,US,,1493728473 123775832,123785226,2017-05-02 12:34:46,">>123779933 Tax is taken by force; involuntary Rent is paid by choice; voluntary",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493728486 123775832,123785369,2017-05-02 12:35:55,">>123785199 Nothing. It's not the government's fucking business what you put in your body, so long as it's not harming anyone else around you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493728555 123775832,123785557,2017-05-02 12:37:34,>tfw most lolbertarians aren't ancaps,,Anonymous,street froggo.jpg,0I0e83JPcwCHqa3vVeAuIg==,US,,1493728654 123775832,123785772,2017-05-02 12:39:12,">>123785226 >You don't get kicked out if you refuse to pay rent",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493728752 123775832,123785943,2017-05-02 12:40:33,">>123785226 If you believe in natural rights you cant presuppose that some people have a right to exist and other not to exist; by excluding individuals from the use of land or by not distributing the ground rents of exclusively used land you are basically saying a person has no right to exist",,Anonymous,image_single-tax-liberator.gif,z7xkN+QSuPVb3em993ztvg==,US,,1493728833 123775832,123788383,2017-05-02 13:01:21,">>123785772 But you agreed that you would pay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493730081 123775832,123788473,2017-05-02 13:02:08,">>123785943 you land tax fags forget the one thing you should be most mindful of. Farmers Use Land To Produce The Food Your Fat Ass Relies On if you tax land exclusively, youre taxing ""Somebody Else"" and when youre taxing ""Somebody Else"" that tax can go as high as the majority (who arent taxed) want. shortly after your delusional fantasy is in place, food prices will skyrocket, but even charging $500 for a single tomato wont keep pace with washington's voracious need for more money, so eventually ALL land will become federal property through tax seizures, then all farming will become a socialist state run bureaucracy. your inane imbecilic land tax scheme is just another stalking horse designed to ""socialize"" another segment of the economy. unles EVERYONE pays the tax at roughly the same rates, somebody always get fucked in the ass by the mewling greedy layabout majority, or the powerful who can manipulate congress with donations. somebody is getting fucked, youre just trying to send those cocks balls-deep deep into somebody else's ass instead of accepting just the tip, and moving on with your life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493730128 123775832,123788490,2017-05-02 13:02:21,">>123785943 Who has a better claim on land that the person who put his labor on it first?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493730141 123775832,123788806,2017-05-02 13:05:11,">>123775832 >be leaf >want to make /lrg/ thead >Not using the rare ""anarcho-canadianism"" alternate logo for OP image. for shame. Here save this, its all your my friend please non-canadians DO NOT save this image I only have it because i made it.",,Anonymous,AnarcoCanadianism.png,PT7LTE19cU1x/SSnjlrcJA==,US,,1493730311 123775832,123789125,2017-05-02 13:07:48,">>123783995 Why would the CIA do something good for SA?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493730468 123775832,123789388,2017-05-02 13:10:05,">>123788490 communists do. havent you been listening? The party owns everything and everyone, we are just serfs with a different title The Party decides where we live, how we live, and even IF we live, ""For The Greater Good"" for more information on the real nature of marxism, examine ANY marxist nation in history.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493730605 123775832,123789598,2017-05-02 13:11:46,">>123776868 >Irish flag Potatonigger commie.",,Anonymous,AnCap RothGirl youtube channel.jpg,wN50MeEUr0yCIK/1yVwHWg==,BR,,1493730706 123775832,123790137,2017-05-02 13:16:20,Imposto é roubo > Taxation is theft,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493730980 123775832,123790317,2017-05-02 13:17:48,">>123790137 taxer c'est voler > all",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493731068 123775832,123790411,2017-05-02 13:18:32,">>123782020 Alexandre Porto? :P",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493731112 123775832,123791095,2017-05-02 13:24:22,">>123788473 Im at work now but this is flawed thinking. Ill respond if this is still here in 10 hours. Remember this will replace all other taxes and stop the urban sprawl that drives the value of farm land up. The majority of LVT would be paid in urban areas.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493731462 123775832,123791184,2017-05-02 13:25:00,">>123788806 thank you for this, burgerbro",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493731500 123775832,123792349,2017-05-02 13:34:54,Bump,,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1493732094 123775832,123792439,2017-05-02 13:35:38,every non-ancap is a commie fag piece of trash of an abortion and should be ran over by trucks,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493732138 123775832,123793409,2017-05-02 13:43:35,">>123792439 And people who like traps too",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493732615 123775832,123793790,2017-05-02 13:46:46,">>123792439 ancaps sure have the edge",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493732806 123775832,123794360,2017-05-02 13:51:25,>tfw you're stuck in a socialist shithole,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1493733085 123775832,123794555,2017-05-02 13:52:45,"please kill yourselves you are just as edgy, maybe more then the communists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493733165 123775832,123794560,2017-05-02 13:52:46,">>123792349 kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493733166 123775832,123794577,2017-05-02 13:52:52,">>123794360 >Finland >shithole its literally the 2nd best asian country outside japan",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493733172 123775832,123794831,2017-05-02 13:54:47,">>123776868 Fuck off nu/pol/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493733287 123775832,123796047,2017-05-02 14:04:14,">>123794555 >implying natsoc isn't edgier",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493733854 123775832,123798062,2017-05-02 14:18:54,">>123794555 >People who want to do their own thing >Edgy >People that want to kill off entire races >Not edgy",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493734734 123775832,123800861,2017-05-02 14:38:46,,,Anonymous,17388990_10155188064857264_3554594324893539697_o.jpg,QIUlHrnl9XullFQGYSXmPg==,IE,,1493735926 123775832,123801236,2017-05-02 14:41:41,We must secure the existence of McDonalds and a future for rich children.,,Anonymous,1485682769880.jpg,rncpf33AEsI/3x0WekwnKA==,SE,,1493736101 123898825,123898825,2017-05-03 06:34:42,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DEMOCRACY IS FOR CUCKS EDITION,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1493793282 123898825,123899121,2017-05-03 06:38:26,">guys look at these fucking based Jews I found >fucking based",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493793506 123898825,123899535,2017-05-03 06:44:24,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493793864 123898825,123899819,2017-05-03 06:48:00,Bump,,Anonymous,leftiesconfusingnames.png,Ba+bJ9CDeHaw95YWJzuYpw==,US,,1493794080 123898825,123900046,2017-05-03 06:51:02,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QolbzVce06g,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493794262 123898825,123900222,2017-05-03 06:53:25,>>123899999,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493794405 123898825,123900722,2017-05-03 07:00:25,,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1493794825 123898825,123900813,2017-05-03 07:01:38,">>123898825 But, we nasis!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493794898 123898825,123901006,2017-05-03 07:04:23,">>123900813 They are icky reds.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493795063 123898825,123901417,2017-05-03 07:09:49,who's got some good ancap podcasts? only on of I know that's any good is Part of the Problem,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493795389 123898825,123901628,2017-05-03 07:12:33,">>123901417 Radical agenda is my go to. Try and find Dave and Cantwell arguing it's a good listen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493795553 123898825,123902073,2017-05-03 07:18:46,>>123898825,,Anonymous,1493800555328.png,YVYe41zNT07hfgKQEznsYg==,US,,1493795926 123898825,123902456,2017-05-03 07:24:07,">>123902073 Kek",,Anonymous,16730683_1501744156519915_8539028573538706639_n.png,z4RpmBmwQpI5EG/2y02Vpg==,US,,1493796247 123898825,123903129,2017-05-03 07:32:43,">>123902073 Libertarians: focus on the incentives without denying the results (Jews are controlling people because X, blacks commit more crime because Y, therefore we should target X and Y). Nazis: Focus on the results without focusing on the incentive and apply simplistic solutions that will most likely derive in more problems (Jews are controlling people so we should get rid of them). Leftists: Deny the results and create more incentives.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493796763 123898825,123903529,2017-05-03 07:37:50,,,Anonymous,The_Humane_thing_to_do.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1493797070 123898825,123904098,2017-05-03 07:45:50,">>123903129 > jews are controlling people > therefore we should get rid of them how is this poor reasoning",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493797550 123898825,123904119,2017-05-03 07:46:04,the fuck is libertarian right just call yourselves republicans lmao,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493797564 123898825,123904226,2017-05-03 07:47:31,">>123901628 yeah I've seen it. I appreciate cantwell's existence but can't really call myself a fan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493797651 123898825,123904345,2017-05-03 07:48:56,">>123904098 Don't get me wrong it will solve the problem of Jewish exploitation, but they'll just get replaced by some other group. You have to stop the incentive for exploitation to really solve the problem.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493797736 123898825,123904550,2017-05-03 07:51:48,">>123899121 Jews (at least Ashkenazi) are tribal, why would they support individual liberty?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493797908 123898825,123904620,2017-05-03 07:52:39,">>123904550 Individuals are tribal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493797959 123898825,123904810,2017-05-03 07:55:17,">>123904119 There obviously needs to be a distinction, republicans are pretty much center or just slightly right by way of their """"christian morals"""""". Libertarians are much more right wing, and even have their own spectrum of ideas from your traditional libertarians like Ron Paul to your increasingly growing AnCap population. It would be like saying ""the fuck is nat socialism just call it democrat lmao""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493798117 123898825,123905427,2017-05-03 08:04:00,,,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1493798640 123898825,123905518,2017-05-03 08:05:07,">>123904098 Because martyrdom and guilt are powerful tools",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493798707 123898825,123906945,2017-05-03 08:23:08,">>123905518 The traedeu effect.",,Anonymous,1484719950551.png,IRYyyIX2YABY9NiMlnmTeg==,US,,1493799788 123898825,123907709,2017-05-03 08:33:21,Bump,,Anonymous,18221895_1872825272742872_5702801242150340149_n_0.jpg,Awc39JL0ihp/weXQjbcJow==,US,,1493800401 123898825,123908624,2017-05-03 08:45:02,,,Anonymous,15390713_1193046924096958_199074968845431755_n.png,uE384KzEevNxNqX9nD7WWw==,US,,1493801102 123898825,123908680,2017-05-03 08:45:45,"I think i classify myself as a libertarian national socialist, do you think this shit would work? More or less i just think people should be free to become and do what they want with some small limitations, however have a culture where people care about more than just themselves but also the nation and the people in it, with the socialist aspect being a bit less about the government enforcing socialism with taxation and policies, but society itself working together to uplift the troubled and fix its problems out of pride and love of one another. Then have a strong state that will work for its people, mostly working for its interests on the world stage, perhaps holding emergency powers to get more involved in the country if ever needed but mostly just controlling a decent military, directing some large infrastructure projects if needed but cooperate with corporations if possible, ensuring education is a given for children and make sure the nationalist-socialist culture of the nation persists",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493801145 123898825,123908752,2017-05-03 08:46:33,"What's the state of the Libertarian party in America? I thought they mostly represented fiscal conservatism while allowing more freedom for individuals and business, but now there needs to be a distinction between left and right libertarians and I see a surprising amount of left-libertarians on /pol/. Are the only true libertarians left in America libertarian-leaning Republicans?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493801193 123898825,123908919,2017-05-03 08:48:54,">>123908680 Libertarian and Socialist should never be used together. That's just plain conservatism with nationalist leanings.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493801334 123898825,123909017,2017-05-03 08:50:11,">>123898825 when things go outta hand for whitey, just call mommy state to gas successful people.",,Anonymous,ancap1.jpg,QXmFcTUpK2d2W6rB0UwC7Q==,SI,,1493801411 123898825,123909097,2017-05-03 08:51:22,">>123908680 I get that you like NatSoc imagery, but basically you're talking about forming a family and kin centered covenant community. Which is valid in libertarian ethics and would still be considered libertarianism unless I'm missing a piece of your ideal.",,Anonymous,Pol__2__0.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1493801482 123898825,123910153,2017-05-03 09:06:04,Bump,,Anonymous,HoppeFlag_0.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1493802364 123898825,123910336,2017-05-03 09:08:20,">>123899819 did you know the woman with dreads is actually a man?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493802500 123898825,123910775,2017-05-03 09:13:40,">>123899121 >all jews are bad",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493802820 123898825,123910910,2017-05-03 09:15:26,">>123908680 Libertarianism and socialism are incompatible >inb4 ""national socialism isn't socialism"" It's socialist enough to oppose libertarian principles",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493802926 123898825,123910981,2017-05-03 09:16:25,">>123898825 hey guys i just found this thread and i thought why dont post some shit what we german youtubers get fed with this channel in particualr is very active in the comment section of several german channels who try to show what the antifa is doing. https://www.youtube.com/user/MrMarxismo/about",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493802985 123898825,123911088,2017-05-03 09:17:43,">>123909097 I just see it as 3 tiers, individual, society and nation Make each work to strengthen the other two and you have a great civilization, but limiting any one of them limits the advances of all Letting people become the best they can be with a strong work ethic making some of the best workers thinkers and leaders, not expecting handouts but still receiving help from society (Eg. ""Teach a man to fish"", people getting really involved in the local community and working to together to fix their problems), where the society will support the state in the actions they need to take, with a government working its hardest to give its people the best opportunities and therefore lives, and ensuring its society becomes the most efficient problem solving, economical powerhouse in the world.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493803063 123898825,123911858,2017-05-03 09:27:35,">>123899121 Walter Block, Murray Rothbard and von Mises were/are all self-hating Jews. Austrians despise communism and socialism, globalism and kike puppetry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGh_adhNGR8",,Anonymous,ancap squad.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1493803655 123898825,123912185,2017-05-03 09:31:34,"Afternoon lads. Anyone notice an increase in anti libertarian threads the last couple of days? Not the usual ancap memeball stuff but ""why are ancaps/libertarians so retarded"" etc",,Anonymous,rothbardhuman.jpg,RGetp9fMgQK1sDndguegtg==,GB,,1493803894 123898825,123912403,2017-05-03 09:34:18,">>123912185 Yeah been steep rise since lrg came about. It's a good chance to btfo nadsis that think they know libertarianism just because they liked Ron Paul.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493804058 123898825,123912450,2017-05-03 09:34:53,">>123912185 Meh it's just the NatSocs and the usual commies getting pissed off about the fact libertarianism is making a resurgence, and that it isn't the cuck A Leppo tier Libertarianism. At least we've been doing good publicity for Hoppe and the Austrian School, tho. We're starting to see a rise in OC and interest for physical removal once again.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1493804093 123898825,123912565,2017-05-03 09:36:16,">>123898825 The best girls and traps",,Anonymous,AnCap RothGirl youtube channel.jpg,wN50MeEUr0yCIK/1yVwHWg==,BR,,1493804176 123898825,123912931,2017-05-03 09:41:02,">>123912450 Portubro?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493804462 123898825,123913029,2017-05-03 09:42:24,">>123910336 Don't assume her gender",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493804544 123898825,123913079,2017-05-03 09:42:52,">>123912565 Why traps? You can't have offspring with them and they come off as LGBT-crazy people. Please don't infest /lrg/ with trap propaganda. We already have to ""justify"" ourselves to NatSocs who say ""hurr durr you're all fascists, why don't you admit it?"" and to the usual meme commie rebuttals, the last thing this general needs is LGBT friendliness. Tolerance, yes; acceptance or inclusiveness, absolutely not. >>123912931 Yup.",,Anonymous,neon hoppe.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,PT,,1493804572 123898825,123913191,2017-05-03 09:44:12,">>123912403 >>123912450 Yeah it's funny, threads all start off talking the piss, but by 50 posts in there's usually some real interest. The /lrg/ site is great for that cos you can point them to the reading list so easily",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493804652 123898825,123913403,2017-05-03 09:46:38,">>123913079 Haven't been able to pick you out of the crowd in a while. I noticed you yesterday in the Anarcho monarchist thread. What's good, what's your take on the current state of /lrg/? Are we on the path of righteousness?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493804798 123898825,123913937,2017-05-03 09:52:33,,,Anonymous,quibheinleinlifegirl.jpg,QWvJr8PzsapHiLFq4PNG/w==,GB,,1493805153 123898825,123913960,2017-05-03 09:52:48,,,Anonymous,quibrockwelldown.jpg,h9uonrm8rGgYZYwlZNrpMQ==,GB,,1493805168 123898825,123913999,2017-05-03 09:53:20,,,Anonymous,quibrockwelltobe.jpg,lM4NgCLE30miy0/R4Quwrw==,GB,,1493805200 123898825,123914038,2017-05-03 09:53:45,,,Anonymous,rothbardultrarightist.jpg,TYmN5CM6YaD5UR9T5l8hGQ==,GB,,1493805225 123898825,123914506,2017-05-03 09:59:03,">>123908752 Weak. Honestly I have not seen a libertarian party with a decent platform yet. They are either left-wing like Johnson, or so small as to be irrelevant , eg libertarian party uk. While rw libertarianism and ancap have excellent theorists and political science, there's no one to really vote for at the party level afaik",,Anonymous,1487284006622.png,cFhgGumYcxx16TfYMHhh6w==,GB,,1493805543 123898825,123915060,2017-05-03 10:05:46,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493805946 123898825,123915220,2017-05-03 10:07:43,,,Anonymous,Blazeit.png,zMhssj5tJBFC/qQDwsVZRw==,US,,1493806063 123898825,123916023,2017-05-03 10:17:10,">>123913403 >>123913403 I think our threads are going quite well, and we're doing a good job spreading the message. I go to the archives often and am pleased to see so many people praising Hoppe, not just on /pol/ but also on other boards and chans. We've also been noticed by Truediltom, Hoppean Snake Memes is our Kikebook front, and we're making pretty dank OC as of lately, particularly the Pepes and the new quotes. Thank you guys for helping the cause; we will realize Hoppe's vision of the future. Perhaps we could improve on what we actually mean by ""physical removal."" I see in a lot of threads some well-intended people going overboard and saying ""We can outright shoot communists in the face and ask questions later because they have no rights"" and then some douches saying we are not extreme enough (""Ah ah! So you're not actually intent on killing commies, you just want to mock them."") We have to explain that ""physical removal"" would mainly be a thing against criminals of all sorts and backgrounds; communist sympathizers and other degenerates would most likely be ostracized and mocked by the majority normal populace; communism, degeneracy, feminism, etc. would be essentially a transition phase for the misguided teenagers of society. If their parents didn't smack some senses into them, the market would. Also, they'd be free to go ahead and try out their own socialist egalitarian Islamic shithole and watch it all burn before their eyes; if they didn't repent after they wouldn't be welcomed back into normal society. It's only when communists and the likes get uppity and start pushing for coercive power and increasingly degenerate standards of conduct that adults must literally physically remove them from civilization, i.e. picking them up and throwing them out of civilized society,",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1493806630 123898825,123916352,2017-05-03 10:21:03,"So I've been trying to prove a priori that private property rights are essential to liberty. First, I define liberty: Let the right to liberty be the right to carry out your will only of your own body (unless you have consent to do so to another), insofar as your will does not conflict with the right to liberty of another person. Let this be the fundamental law. Next, I prove that private property follows as a corollary to this law: Let person A use his time to make use of natural resources. I say that the resources A makes use of belongs to him and is subject to his will and only his will unless he provides consent to another, say person B, to make use of the resource; this resource is A's property. If not, then let person B come along and deprive A of the resources A has made use of. It is A's will to achieve an end, and to achieve this end A must make use of previously unappropriated resources (for the sake of argument, assume these resources were previously unclaimed as property). If B comes along and deprives A of these resources, B deprives A of the means by which A intends to achieve his desired end. The end lies with the means such that the means leads to the end and without the means there is no end: depriving the means implies depriving the end. This violates the law. Thus B may not deprive A of his resources. Thus he resources are A's private property. What do you guys think of this? Point out any flaws if you see them. I put this proof together last night so it's likely that it's flawed",,Anonymous,1490557606971.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,CA,,1493806863 123898825,123916465,2017-05-03 10:22:27,">>123911088 Opinions please?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493806947 123898825,123917019,2017-05-03 10:29:12,">>123916023 Wonderful, HSM knows of us? I know he's a/pol/ack (and a namefag) but I've never seen any reference to lrg. I also don't have Facebook so I wouldn't know.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493807352 123898825,123917291,2017-05-03 10:32:19,">>123916023 >physical removal It's a shame because those memes and the helicopter ride stuff do attract people - sometimes it's all they know about us. Hoppe himself used catholic excommunication as an analogy for removal. From shunning, though discrimination, to expulsion from society. https://mises.org/library/my-battle-thought-police",,Anonymous,hoppe2-e1439880724629.jpg,pSO/gLdjULr7+l3nOmlwKg==,GB,,1493807539 123898825,123917371,2017-05-03 10:33:09,">>123917019 I think he knows, but I'm not sure whether or not he has posted /lrg/ stuff onto Kikebook.",,Anonymous,hoppewave 2.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,PT,,1493807589 123898825,123917664,2017-05-03 10:36:18,">>123916465 Sounds like NatCap if you're talking a libertarianish society fiercely protected by a state. Is this what you mean?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493807778 123898825,123917687,2017-05-03 10:36:33,">>123916352 feedback anyone?",,Anonymous,private property and NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,CA,,1493807793 123898825,123917766,2017-05-03 10:37:26,"What does /lrg/ think of this? >In a departure from traditional Western political theory that is reminiscent of left‐wing anarchism, contemporary libertarianism rejects the necessity of making political choices based on a value hierarchy, instead claiming that it is possible for all individuals to pursue their divergent values simultaneously—as long as each respects the equal rights of others to do the same. The caveat, however, hides a conflict of loyalties that would plague a libertarian society: on the one hand are the particular loyalties of one's preferred Utopian community; on the other hand, loyalty to the larger “framework for utopias”; within which one's utopia exists. The second loyalty implies a value relativism incompatible with the first one, meaning either that loyalty to the libertarian framework will undermine the utopias within it, or that the particular values of the utopias will destabilize the libertarian framework. The durability of a libertarian society, then, requires a mentality best characterized as nihilistic. In this, libertarianism differs from liberalism but is surprisingly similar to the cultural diversity movement. The thesis is illustrated by examining John Gray's attempt to eschew both a hierarchy of values and moral relativism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493807846 123898825,123917871,2017-05-03 10:38:29,"REMOVE AUTHORITARIANS http://www.strawpoll.me/12730090",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1493807909 123898825,123918011,2017-05-03 10:40:02,">>123917871 >National Socialist >Socialist Physical removal is the only correct answer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493808002 123898825,123918052,2017-05-03 10:40:25,">>123898825 Is the flat taxer ITT? I need to explain why hes wrong about the LVT also you guys are all closet georgists and should just convert already",,Anonymous,emmememe.jpg,ii2fbCLmnFokum3pcpYiXg==,US,,1493808025 123898825,123918056,2017-05-03 10:40:27,What are your guys' favorite youtube channels? Please don't say Molymeme,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493808027 123898825,123918292,2017-05-03 10:42:52,">>123917687 Good but a little wordy. The NAP explanation would stand by itself. Perhaps contrast the marx quote with something like pic related?",,Anonymous,4636681-ludwig-von-mises-quote.jpg,kLkRIS4ZKZutuf28srXNiA==,GB,,1493808172 123898825,123918347,2017-05-03 10:43:27,">>123917871 Accept them as our retarded little brothers during the War for the West; physically separate them from us after we're done with the rest.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493808207 123898825,123918368,2017-05-03 10:43:40,">>123917687 >pls respond Have a you, you filthy leaf.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493808220 123898825,123918412,2017-05-03 10:44:06,">>123918292 or split the difference and figure out something that is moral and actually works?",,Anonymous,marxandfriedmanonthesamepage.jpg,jQcX/dlW8Ly0ZxJ3JYAGYg==,US,,1493808246 123898825,123918555,2017-05-03 10:45:22,">>123904620 >>123911858 >>123912185 >>123911858 >>123912565 >>123917871 >>123918011 thoughts on >>123916352 ? It's an a priori proof I put together to make libertarian doctrine more rigorous. There are probably proofs like this in books but I put this one together myself",,Anonymous,1490467159176.png,KBFOZoVIXQaog2Kdwm/ZBA==,CA,,1493808322 123898825,123918602,2017-05-03 10:45:46,">>123918292 How does the NAP apply to rightful debt? if i dont pay my bills whomever i owe has a right to force me to pay?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493808346 123898825,123918679,2017-05-03 10:46:30,">>123918292 I wasn't referring to the pic if that's what you're referring to",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493808390 123898825,123918828,2017-05-03 10:48:01,">>123918011 Frankly, I think we should remove them before we remove the communists, since they are immeasurably worse. At least most semi-redpilled people know that commies are bad, but most think that Nazis are their opposites.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1493808481 123898825,123919005,2017-05-03 10:49:55,">>123918679 Oh sorry, man, thought it was your OC & you were asking for feedback",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493808595 123898825,123919184,2017-05-03 10:51:45,">>123918602 The NAP is a concept, not a governing force. I know it's confusing for statists who look to the NAP as a law, but it's really just the idea that if someone transgresses against you, you can retaliate. It's the concept that the individual can govern themselves and make that assessment. What you're looking for is structure, which you'll find in libertarian societies within covenants of likeminded individuals. Here they've made their own rules etc and agreed mutually to them. This is different from a state because it was a voluntary contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493808705 123898825,123919281,2017-05-03 10:52:40,">>123918056 Not jewtube but some anon mentioned this site with a load of audio, interviews etc. just started looking at it http://www.ancapbarbershop.com",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493808760 123898825,123919338,2017-05-03 10:53:08,">>123918555 Check'd trips. I think you should start by explaining why self ownership is the basic and foundational insight into private property and the answer to resolve property disputes. For instance, if we didn't own our vocal chords, our brains and our bodies we could not act, and Mankind would die instantly. If A were owned by B whilst B had self ownership, a class of subhumans and superhumans would be created, which is invalid as a universal ethic. If A and B owned each others, they'd need each other's consent to act and to appropriate resources, which would spell the instant death of Mankind since everyone would need everyone else's permission to move, yet those people would also need another person's permission, who in turn would need another's permission, ad infinitum. So we're left with each person owning his body by virtue of him being the sole direct controller over hid body. ""Only I can directly use my brain, my vocal chords, my arms, etc. and do such and such with them."" Anyone who denies this enters into performative contradiction because he himself is using his body in order to argue for or against something. I'm not sure on >If not, then let person B come along and deprive A of the resources A has made use of. It is A's will to achieve an end, and to achieve this end A must make use of previously unappropriated resources (for the sake of argument, assume these resources were previously unclaimed as property). If B comes along and deprives A of these resources, B deprives A of the means by which A intends to achieve his desired end. The end lies with the means such that the means leads to the end and without the means there is no end: depriving the means implies depriving the end. This violates the law. Thus B may not deprive A of his resources. Thus he resources are A's private property. What do you mean by ""deprive him of his resources""? Do you mean resources which A had previously appropriated, or resources encountered in Nature?",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1493808788 123898825,123919641,2017-05-03 10:56:07,">>123917871 Wassap Slovakiabro, haven't seen you around lately either >>123916023 What's your take on applying ""non libertarian"" means to acheive ancapistan? We live in statism, and are being aggressed upon. It seems valid that libertarian ethics are not to be applied t when almost everyone acts in opposition to property rights. Is it just to use statism to fight the statists that oppose us?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493808967 123898825,123919647,2017-05-03 10:56:13,">>123919184 So in other words i'm right and that collecting rightful debts does not violate the NAP because the collector is retaliating for the transgression of not paying the bills?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493808973 123898825,123920012,2017-05-03 11:00:28,">>123918056 TrueDilTom is good been watching his stuff, and I've been unironically listening to early molymemes lately while I work on stuff.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493809228 123898825,123920355,2017-05-03 11:03:38,">>123919647 Stop thinking of the NAP as a governing force. Either someone is compelled to retaliate over debts or not. The NAP is an explanation of what could compel people to retaliate. Motivated individuals will be violent regardless of morals or ethics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493809418 123898825,123920653,2017-05-03 11:06:41,">>123920355 ""force,"" as such, is neither good nor bad. If used to defend one's person or property from aggressors, or to enforce payment of a rightful debt, it is a good thing. If used to harm the person or property of a non-consenting other, or to enforce payment of a wrongful debt, it is a bad thing. A tax on wages or interest implies that the income one receives in return for the exertion of one's labor, or for the use of one's capital goods, belongs (at least in part) to others. This conflicts with the basic libertarian principle that you have an exclusive right to the fruits of your labor. A tax on rent implies that the income one receives for the value of the land one holds belongs to others. Since land itself (1) is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and (2) is that to which all have an equal right of access; and since the rent of land (1) is not a return to labor, and (2) reflects the extent to which Locke's proviso has been violated, a ""tax"" on rent does not conflict with the principle that you have an exclusive right to the fruits of your labor, but is in fact a just and necessary means of upholding it. Thus, the part of one's income that is taken via taxation of wages and interest constitutes the enforcement of a wrongful debt, whereas the part of one's income that is taken via taxation of rent constitutes the enforcement of a rightful debt. ""As to what constitutes robbery, it is...the taking or withholding from another of that which rightfully belongs to him. That which rightfully belongs to him, be it observed, not that which legally belongs to him."" [Emphasis original] -- Henry George, Property In Land, p. 46.",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1493809601 123898825,123920736,2017-05-03 11:07:22,,,Anonymous,MISES.jpg,9I1kG2Kiv2mk8CD61GSUPQ==,GB,,1493809642 123898825,123920790,2017-05-03 11:07:55,,,Anonymous,all-the-oratory-of-the-advocates-of-government-omnipotence-cannot-9789127.png,pmXNkqgC3bKgsUwiuyQHKw==,GB,,1493809675 123898825,123921126,2017-05-03 11:09:52,">>123906945 kek, reminds me of this",,Anonymous,self_described_pol.jpg,hT0cPwCmQFdw3qrJpXP/UQ==,CA,,1493809792 123898825,123921242,2017-05-03 11:10:59,">>123919338 What do you mean by ""deprive him of his resources""? Do you mean resources which A had previously appropriated Yes",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493809859 123898825,123921334,2017-05-03 11:11:48,">>123898825 I'm a Libertarian Left Vegan. Where's my /pol?!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493809908 123898825,123921423,2017-05-03 11:12:42,give cantwell more subs,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493809962 123898825,123921487,2017-05-03 11:13:16,">>123920653 Thanks for the lecture lol Did you copypaste that out of a txt file or, heaven forbid, did you actually string these thoughts together manually and think it was a useful post",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493809996 123898825,123921549,2017-05-03 11:13:54,,,Anonymous,karl-marx-was-a-black-man-ever-wonder-why-america-8351609.png,c5ROsL15s6/pyYmVMWbkSg==,GB,,1493810034 123898825,123921688,2017-05-03 11:15:02,">>123919641 Depends on what you mean by that. I think we should strive to be as free from the state as possible; avoid taxes when we can; ignore stupid laws and regulations when we can get away with it; buy stuff from black markets or markets which avoid taxation; try to get into the whole seasteading, Liberland, cryptocurrency etc. trends, and so on and so forth. One guy from R*ddit e-mailed Hoppe on this issue and he recommended adopting what Robert Taylor writes in Reactionary Liberty.",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1493810102 123898825,123921748,2017-05-03 11:15:34,,,Anonymous,C-mILryXsAUxXdD.jpg,RLxvaddUk6ETDmmCZBw9RQ==,GB,,1493810134 123898825,123922067,2017-05-03 11:18:19,">>123921242 Yes, that hinders A's freedoms.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493810299 123898825,123922113,2017-05-03 11:18:40,,,Anonymous,1486258936401.jpg,WcZ0TAoWqb+0VprInC2z9g==,GB,,1493810320 123898825,123922339,2017-05-03 11:20:35,">>123921487 I'm just ITT trying to get some of you right wing lp guys back to a place that makes sense Im advocating Georgism and i think that text proves that community capture of ground rents is no theft and therefor completely in line with libertarian thinking Yes that is from a text file but it does a far better job that i can of articulating my point.",,Anonymous,game-design-3-638.jpg,aFcFBJvxgU7NP2S7iy2Ijw==,US,,1493810435 123898825,123923147,2017-05-03 11:27:47,">>123922339 It's pointless, you're providing shit arguments such as a comparison between voluntary contractual agreement subjected to third party arbitration with state taxation. A tax on rent implies that someone has a better claim on the land than those who put their labor on it, that private property doesn't exist and that only usufruct is allowed, you're an authoritarian trying to convince us that just because there's a minor and ignorant base on what you preach you will be able to convince anyone. Land is scarce, scarcity requires property rights to avoid conflict, that's all there is to it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493810867 123898825,123923203,2017-05-03 11:28:22,">>123921688 Civil disobedience is fine, but I mean specifically the use of force with intent of bringing us to a more libertarian society, whether that be minarchist/NatCap transition that would no doubt be authoritarian. I've gotta read reactionary liberty, will be my next read.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493810902 123898825,123923434,2017-05-03 11:30:24,">>123923203 Realistically, acting alone would land us in jail or worse. I'd say organizing free speech / paleolibertarian rallies and trying to red pill party youth kids is the way to go. Of course the ideal would be what Cantwell says, being aspiring helicopter pilots of the Pinochet administration and doing what must be done to make sure the left does not have access to a platform on which to enslave us.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493811024 123898825,123923628,2017-05-03 11:32:06,">>123923147 anon if some people have the right to own the earth doesn't this mean others don't have a right to exist? And exactly what labor have you put into owning that earth? You found it? You were granted a state tittle saying you do? Land is different from all other forms of capital but neoclassical economists have blurred the lines for 100 years now",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1493811126 123898825,123923645,2017-05-03 11:32:19,">>123922339 If a covenant of mutually agreeing individuals own land and then others mutually agree to pay rent to live on that land, yeah, that works The thing is, I think anyone who believes in public ownership of land misvalues land extensively. Land has a lot of value to it, it's not just some terra firma to build improvements upon. Space has value, not all land is created equally and private ownership of land reduces a lot of the questions that go into who can do what, where. I would go as far as to say that a free market is dependent on the ability to privately own land. Publicly owned land immediately throws every physical object, every building and every vehicle, all physical capital, and the people themselves into a grey space where they're interacting with public property and thus the state and thus subject to the laws of that state which would necessarily involve how they, as private objects, interact constantly with the public land. I'm sure you have reasoning behind why you want a state controlled property of land, but I'm also sure there's a way to handle these reasons in a world with private land ownership.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493811139 123898825,123923785,2017-05-03 11:33:33,">>123911858 wrong",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493811213 123898825,123924012,2017-05-03 11:35:50,">>123923434 Yeah I agree, we need some paleolib populism before we can do what must be done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493811350 123898825,123924019,2017-05-03 11:35:54,">>123923628 >anon if some people have the right to own the earth If I put labor on earth and I don't get to own it, who does? You? People who come live next to me? Who will claim he has a right to tax me? >doesn't this mean others don't have a right to exist? The moment you're born you're given right to exist somewhere by your parents. >And exactly what labor have you put into owning that earth? You found it? You were granted a state tittle saying you do? Either someone put labor first, homesteading it, or someone who homesteaded it got to transfer it. Again, I ask the question, who has a better claim to this land?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493811354 123898825,123924509,2017-05-03 11:40:33,">>123923628 >anon if some people have the right to own the earth Okay, I'm with you... >doesn't this mean others don't have a right to exist? What? What is this leap in logic? We have private land ownership now and you don't see roaming death squads cleaning up people who don't own land. And to answer your question regarding the labor of keeping land, there's quite a bit of work that goes into keeping land in a usable state. Mother Nature is unyielding and I could have spent 8 hours a day keeping my cattle fields back when I lived in the country. It's difficult to know this without doing it ever, but I assure you, owners exercise immanency over their domain. If there's a dispute over who owns land, you either prove that you own it or you don't own it. It's as simple as that. You're either exercising your immanence, or not. If someone claimed to own a forest but never interacted with the forest or was unable to keep people out of it, does that individual own that forest? Obviously not. Of course, the state gives a means for people to claim ownership over land they have no immanence over - but that's the filthy state for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493811633 123898825,123924680,2017-05-03 11:42:13,">>123924012 Rothbard said it best senpai: https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html And here's an image from that article we can use.",,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,PT,,1493811733 123898825,123924870,2017-05-03 11:44:07,">>123924019 >If I put labor on earth and I don't get to own it, who does? Im advocating for the collection of ground rents not property taxes. A Georgist system would have 0 property taxes. All the fruits of your labor go directly to you >The moment you're born you're given right to exist somewhere by your parents. Make a man on an island of 100 the king or the owner of the land it makes no difference as the rest are now indebted to him in perpetuity >Either someone put labor first, homesteading it, or someone who homesteaded it got to transfer it. Again, I ask the question, who has a better claim to this land? finders keepers losers weepers is really the best way to base a society anon? The better claim to the land is all of mankind for the land is a gift from the almighty from which all other wealth flows Our proposal is a change in the taxation system from taxes being levied on what you produce to being levied on the value of resources you consume. You simply pay to the community for the benefits the community provides for you. Isn’t that fairer than being penalised for working?",,Anonymous,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,US,,1493811847 123898825,123925036,2017-05-03 11:45:31,"So, have you fellas seen anything by Mark Passio? https://youtu.be/qrWrZBeh800",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1493811931 123898825,123925164,2017-05-03 11:46:46,">>123924509 wall of text incoming; its part of Progress and Poverty by Henry George The equal right of all men to the use of land is as clear as their equal right to breathe the air—it is a right proclaimed by the fact of their existence. For we cannot suppose that some men have a right to be in this world and others no right. . . . . . any one human being, could he concentrate in himself the individual rights to the land of any country, could expel therefrom all the rest of its inhabitants; and could he thus concentrate the individual rights to the whole surface of the globe, he alone of all the teeming population of the earth would have the right to live. And what upon this supposition would occur is, upon a smaller scale, realized in actual fact. . . . The comparative handful of pro- prietors who own the surface of the British Islands would be doing only what English law gives them full power to do, and what many of them have done on a smaller scale already, were they to exclude the millions of British people from their native islands. And such an exclusion . . . would not be a whit more repugnant to natural right than the spectacle now presented, of the vast body of the British people being compelled to pay such enormous sums to a few of their number for the privilege of being permitted to live upon and use the land which they so fondly call their own; which is endeared to them by memories so tender and so glorious, and for which they are held in duty bound, if need be, to spill their blood and lay down their lives. . . .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493812006 123898825,123926209,2017-05-03 11:56:17,FUCK SOCIALISM,,Anonymous,0281746658273.png,SoP5d3E8mNpq9UkRDRPqPA==,CA,,1493812577 123898825,123926328,2017-05-03 11:57:25,">>123924870 >Im advocating for the collection of ground rents not property taxes. A Georgist system would have 0 property taxes. And who would collect and use it? How much would this ground rent be? >Make a man on an island of 100 the king or the owner of the land it makes no difference as the rest are now indebted to him in perpetuity >The better claim to the land is all of mankind for the land is a gift from the almighty from which all other wealth flows Again, land is a scarce resource, without property rights and original appropriation that island could receive a boat with 400 people and all of the sudden the resources ought to be shared between 500 instead of 100. >The equal right of all men to the use of land is as clear as their equal right to breathe the air Land is scarce, air isn't. MAJOR difference, how can you even take someone seriously after such a twisted comparison? >Our proposal is a change in the taxation system from taxes being levied on what you produce to being levied on the value of resources you consume. You simply pay to the community for the benefits the community provides for you. Isn’t that fairer than being penalised for working? Define community. Are you advocating against the right of free association? What if the community is not providing me any benefit compared to what I provide?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493812645 123898825,123926332,2017-05-03 11:57:28,">>123925036 Yeah I watched his natural law presentation, it was very well put.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493812648 123898825,123926935,2017-05-03 12:03:33,">>123924870 >>123925164 I really don't see any argument against what I said before. Being upset that people can inherit property is one thing, being upset at imperialists is another thing. The idea that a system of economy can keep someone with a large enough military from ""owning the world"" seems like you're trying to drive a nail using a corkscrew, it's a valid concern but you're approaching it with the wrong tool. The British tried to control land in a variety of places in the world, and you see how they couldn't assert immanency and lost control of that land. Same idea, except even better in a world where large states like Britain didn't exist in the first place. On a smaller scale, your ""but if I bought a vacant lot so I'm stealing from everyone"", no. You took a risk buying that land, because just as that billboard says, that land's value is dependent on the surrounding economy of people. It would take a fool to think the value of things only goes up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493813013 123898825,123926950,2017-05-03 12:03:40,">>123912450 >Meh it's just the NatSocs and the usual commies getting pissed off about the fact libertarianism is making a resurgence Where? In the real world? No.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493813020 123898825,123927102,2017-05-03 12:05:09,Why are libertarians so shit at making infographics and propaganda?,,Anonymous,1493547898825.jpg,mDEMS2D+FBapAMdK/mn0FA==,CA,,1493813109 123898825,123927450,2017-05-03 12:08:40,">>123927102 Says the fucking leaf karenposting",,Anonymous,1470622-Hans-Hermann-Hoppe-Quote-Private-property-implies-exclusivity.jpg,caOQIczEQH/o9P9aULA9Kw==,GB,,1493813320 123898825,123927514,2017-05-03 12:09:15,"How many of you here would consider yourselves more on the anarchist side, or basically no government? A problem I've seen is many libertarians seem to identify more with anarchists. Sort of like most dems now are socialist marxists, and repubs neocons. I find people that try to look into a third party, or ideology tend to get turned off by the, at least vocal, anarchist side of the party. I feel they hurt it a bit, although I don't think they should be rid of. I just say this more of an outsider who has been observing the parties.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493813355 123898825,123927865,2017-05-03 12:12:35,">>123920653 What if maintaining the land required labor? Is the tax still justified?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493813555 123898825,123927894,2017-05-03 12:12:45,">>123927102 Says the leaf that has made 0 propaganda for the cause, and instead bitches at me to make it for him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493813565 123898825,123927927,2017-05-03 12:13:06,">>123927514 Well libertarians are generally minarchists. Ancaps by definition want no state t.ancap",,Anonymous,taxation-is-theft-yes-yes-it-is-2793661.png,lwhFjHfMumVGhX/gnD6DDg==,GB,,1493813586 123898825,123928550,2017-05-03 12:18:44,">>123927450 So, what have you contributed? >>123927894 Actually no I've made several propaganda images explaining countless common arguments people have about free markets.",,Anonymous,1493114113735.jpg,fw2siAr+wUFB7qBnnKWPPQ==,CA,,1493813924 123898825,123928630,2017-05-03 12:19:39,">>123928550 Good, keep it up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493813979 123898825,123929467,2017-05-03 12:27:40,">>123928550 Pic related. Rate my OC pls",,Anonymous,FknLeaf.jpg,YsxpsUP4BHBb/V+mF8zWsw==,GB,,1493814460 123898825,123929712,2017-05-03 12:29:43,">>123898825 cool emblem",,--Solid--,,,US,,1493814583 123898825,123929760,2017-05-03 12:30:09,">>123928630 Why do I have to explain things to anti-free market people every single fucking time? I'm tired of explaining what caused the great depression, why monopolies are impossible, why the gilded age was so great, why nixon getting off the gold standard in 1970 is the reason everything is so fucked. Why aren't their detailed professional infographics explaining this shit? Why is nobody else contributing? This is why this movement is falling.",,Anonymous,1491887442527.png,O50krmmLtLglffiAkJlv5Q==,CA,,1493814609 123898825,123929829,2017-05-03 12:30:42,">>123929467 Thanks for contributing nothing at all and actively fighting against libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493814642 123898825,123930132,2017-05-03 12:33:10,">>123926935 Im not doing a very good job articulating this so ill just defer to someone else words that might to a better job explaining What you are taught as ""capitalism"" results in inequality and inefficiency because it lacks a theory to manage common resources. It doesn't even recognize that there is such a thing as common resources. Georgism corrects this flaw by not only recognizing common resources like land, minerals, water, fish stocks as such, but adds that by managing these resources with user fees, you can get rid of all other taxation and remove impediments to economic development. So under Georgism, regular folk are mostly taxed in proportion to the value of any land they may possess. The vast majority of people would pay a lot less than they currently pay in income, payroll and consumption taxes, but absentee landlords would pay a lot more, and the mortgage business of banks would be an order of magnitude smaller, because land taxes cancel the benefits of homeownership as an investment. The system also discourages the inefficient use of land, controlling sprawl and inefficient farming practices. Housing and transportation costs would be greatly reduced, thus allowing for a greater equality of opportunity. A Universal basic income (UBI) could provide for those unable to work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493814790 123898825,123930376,2017-05-03 12:35:15,">>123929760 You emotional anime-trap loving cucks are what makes libertarianism fail.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493814915 123898825,123930861,2017-05-03 12:40:05,">>123930376 Then why did anime help the alt-right become mainstream so much?",,Anonymous,1491694016092.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,CA,,1493815205 123898825,123930998,2017-05-03 12:41:38,">>123930861 It didn't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493815298 123898825,123931300,2017-05-03 12:44:36,">>123930998 Anime and memes certainly made the alt right huge. You'd have to be an absolute retard to disagree with this. Why do you want libertarianism to be boring so nobody will be interested?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493815476 123898825,123931595,2017-05-03 12:47:29,I ought to have the right to be a fascist on my own property.,,Anonymous,1462030940294.jpg,CB5rGi2zNuoP5dXedCYLxQ==,CA,,1493815649 123898825,123931631,2017-05-03 12:48:01,just wanted to say thanks for opening my eyes,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493815681 123898825,123931770,2017-05-03 12:49:09,">>123931300 Memes with ideas attached to them certainly helped. Anime had nothing to do with the ideas. Anime doesn't further any cause.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493815749 123898825,123931916,2017-05-03 12:50:30,">>123931631 Awesome, glad to hear you've taken the real redpill of freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493815830 123898825,123931920,2017-05-03 12:50:32,">>123899819 The difference between fascist and communist is simple, its both brutal tribalism but fascist are honest whit you.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493815832 123898825,123931946,2017-05-03 12:50:49,">>123931631 what ideology were you before?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493815849 123898825,123931985,2017-05-03 12:51:09,">>123931770 >Anime doesn't further any cause. except the alt right",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493815869 123898825,123932443,2017-05-03 12:54:56,What's your stance on abortion and drugs?,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1493816096 123898825,123932702,2017-05-03 12:57:18,">>123932443 I'm personally not for abortion, drugs should be legal but use of drugs should not be advocated by anyone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493816238 123898825,123932723,2017-05-03 12:57:27,">>123931946 I was politically apathetic and dismissed it all as futile. I had assumed that government was what many dreadfully call to be ""a necessary evil,"" and left it at that. The truth is that government from the use of force is never necessary, it never was, and the anger from that realization is what keeps me reading and studying further.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493816247 123898825,123932872,2017-05-03 12:58:48,">>123932723 Cool. Thank fuck you didn't go down the leftist path.",,Anonymous,1493553649072.jpg,nwhE0gVsBdzTbcfF3CQcWA==,CA,,1493816328 123898825,123933033,2017-05-03 13:00:13,">>123932872 Yeah. What about you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493816413 123898825,123933868,2017-05-03 13:08:19,">>123933033 I grew up apolitcal then started watching the daily show when I was 14, then for some reason I became a ""republican"" on some issues. Then the 2008 election came along with Ron Paul and everyone was promoting him on /b/ so I looked more into it and slowly became a libertarian. When /new/ then /pol/ came along it only reinforced my views. Now I know a lot about economics and history and can refute a lot of anti-free market arguments. I'm not quite an ancap, but that's fine.",,Anonymous,1491667398679.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,CA,,1493816899 123898825,123933892,2017-05-03 13:08:31,"Give me the redpill on libertarianism. I realized that I was basically covering my ears and ignoring every single ideology. Used to think libertarians are literal cucks, but I understand it's just me being uneducated. Where should I start, besides the books in the OP?",,Anonymous,nivYplM.jpg,/tsPJ6emB3Mb162lqKRPHg==,LT,,1493816911 123898825,123934019,2017-05-03 13:09:39,">>123933892 Understand that central banks are evil and enslaving us. The reason the economy has been shit for so long is the fault of central banks.",,Anonymous,135345970092.png,s8nCQGXIbSEhBQuGNYpdKw==,CA,,1493816979 123898825,123934240,2017-05-03 13:11:41,">>123934019 Well that's a view I held for a long time now. I've read quite a bit about going away from the gold standard and how ti affected everything.",,Anonymous,1493309863124.jpg,NzbaHSXwPi1s2xe2bFAl+g==,LT,,1493817101 123898825,123934256,2017-05-03 13:11:50,">>123933892 Anatomy of The state is a good ""fuck the government"" read. It's short too maybe only taking an hour or two to read.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493817110 123898825,123934862,2017-05-03 13:17:24,">>123934256 >Anatomy of The state This will be where I start then. Thank you. Libertarianism sounds like a weird ideology and it feels like it would be you either getting marauded constantly, never ending wars or having to be on your guard 24/7. Then again, it's just me knowing nothing about it except for ancap memeballs over the years. That was probably why I had a skewed view on it.",,Anonymous,1492583017919.gif,dHRVXONXO6MG5CEYg9GtgA==,LT,,1493817444 123898825,123935003,2017-05-03 13:18:44,">>123898825 bump for my anti-cosmopolitan,anti-statists,freedom fighters bros",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493817524 123898825,123935087,2017-05-03 13:19:29,">>123934240 Yes, and it's not necessarily the gold standard that is preferable. Just money that the government can't create more of. Bitcoin might work. Or another fiat currency that's impossible to inflate, I dunno. You want a money that goes up in value instead of going down. Anyway here's some videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wer4FiA79mo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwEcH7HGSZY",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493817569 123898825,123935177,2017-05-03 13:20:18,">>123935003 Free Market Nationalism is best desu.",,Anonymous,190238476950603.jpg,Kh66VvTVmkMwF53Dn8ihCg==,CA,,1493817618 123898825,123935322,2017-05-03 13:21:48,">>123929760 >Why aren't their detailed professional infographics explaining this shit It takes more than a few infographics to convince people that their core beliefs are wrong. Plus, explaining the consequences and libertarian solutions is a tad more complicated then what infographics allow.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493817708 123898825,123935438,2017-05-03 13:22:56,">>123935177 Henry de Lesquen is the only France savior",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493817776 123898825,123935618,2017-05-03 13:24:26,">>123935087 Thanks for the videos. Bookmarked for viewing later. > tfw all I want to do is to actually get educated on different ideologies and learn about the more intricate workings of different institutions that control everything.",,Anonymous,1493056948228.gif,DEfyWc3dFupRz4Q5H2QWHg==,LT,,1493817866 123898825,123935682,2017-05-03 13:25:14,">>123935438 I wish I could understand French so I could indulge in his memery.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,kl0D0vuMXjldJnCFcgocOA==,US,,1493817914 123898825,123935782,2017-05-03 13:26:08,">>123935322 >It takes more than a few infographics to convince people that their core beliefs are wrong. Okay. Infographics will be a gigantic help though. Everyone else has infograpics except us. Do you understand why were not doing so well?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493817968 123898825,123935787,2017-05-03 13:26:12,">>123935438 Based de Lesquen indeed. He endorsed Le Pen recently, which surprised me, but I think it was mainly because of the immigration problem and the possibility of Frexit.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493817972 123898825,123936024,2017-05-03 13:28:33,">>123935682 Tyrone is always here to help he knows french the absolute madman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb1P7_tbjOU >>123935787 he only endorsed her because Macron was openly a hack",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493818113 123898825,123937428,2017-05-03 13:41:27,BRING BACK THE GILDED AGE,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493818887 123898825,123937923,2017-05-03 13:46:04,bump,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493819164 123898825,123939246,2017-05-03 13:57:42,"Great memes guys, keep up the good work compadres Redpill those boot-lickers into submission. Big government is the ultimate form of evil",,SAGE THIS THREAD,taxationistheft.jpg,cfEjMcGM4b7BXNTj4/Y6tQ==,CA,,1493819862 123898825,123939342,2017-05-03 13:58:35,">>123939246 oops, don't sage this thread. I had that name from posting in another thread",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493819915 123898825,123939447,2017-05-03 13:59:28,">>123934862 That and loads of others are linked from http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",,Anonymous,8HAdtbt.jpg,DaoKZJZIc1CuRBXRNd4CEw==,GB,,1493819968 123898825,123939775,2017-05-03 14:02:16,">>123939447 ayn rand is fucking garbage",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493820136 123898825,123939785,2017-05-03 14:02:22,">>123939246 Right on brother.",,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1493820142 123898825,123940026,2017-05-03 14:04:33,"Does someone have this book to share? It's the best compilation of articles about private property libertarianism. https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=ymcMhB2UUvIC >Table of Contents >1. Introduction—Edward P. Stringham >Section I: Theory of Private Property Anarchism >2. Police, Law, and the Courts—Murray Rothbard >3. The Machinery of Freedom: Guide to a Radical Capitalism (excerpt)—David Friedman >4. Market for Liberty (excerpt)—Morris and Linda Tannehill >5. Pursuing Justice in a Free Society: Crime Prevention and the Legal Order—Randy Barnett >6. Capitalist Production and the Problem of Public Goods—Hans Hoppe >7. National Defense and the Public-Goods Problem—Jeffrey Rogers Hummel and Don Lavoie >8. Defending a Free Nation—Roderick Long >9. The Myth of the Rule of Law—John Hasnas >Section II: Debate >10. The State—Robert Nozick >11. The Invisible Hand Strikes Back—Roy A. Childs >12. Robert Nozick and the Immaculate Conception of the State—Murray Rothbard >13. Objectivism and the State: An Open Letter to Ayn Rand—Roy Childs >14. Do We Ever Really Get Out of Anarchy?—Alfred G. Cuzan >15. Law as a Public Good: The Economics of Anarchy—Tyler Cowen >16. Law as a Private Good: A Response to Tyler Cowen on the Economics of Anarchy—David Friedman >17. Rejoinder to David Friedman on the Economics of Anarchy—Tyler Cowen >18. Networks, Law and the Paradox of Cooperation—Bryan Caplan and Edward Stringham >19. Conflict, Cooperation and Competition in Anarchy—Tyler Cowen and Daniel Sutter >20. Conventions: Some Thoughts on the Economics of Ordered Anarchy—Anthony De Jasay >21. Can Anarchy Save Us from Leviathan?—Andrew Rutten >22. Government: Unnecessary but Inevitable—Randall Holcombe >23. Is Government Inevitable? Comment on Holcombe’s Analysis—Peter Leeson and Edward Stringham",,Anonymous,anarchy_1800.jpg,VBDvVYkhFRQmS5tmVHU8fg==,BR,,1493820273 123898825,123940160,2017-05-03 14:05:47,">>123939775 what is it about her that makes you so buttmad?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493820347 123898825,123940460,2017-05-03 14:08:25,">>123940026 Think you can get a pdf here http://anarcho-capitalist.org/pdf-archive/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493820505 123898825,123940515,2017-05-03 14:08:56,">>123940160 because she makes us look bad also her philosophy was shit >objective morality lol yeah okay",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493820536 123898825,123940724,2017-05-03 14:10:47,">>123940515 >objective morality THATS THE FUCKING BEST PART, no wonder you're a trap lover.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1493820647 123898825,123940743,2017-05-03 14:10:57,Bpmu,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493820657 123898825,123940748,2017-05-03 14:10:58,">>123940026 >>123940460 28 pages? is it really that short? that can't be right, the copy provided in http://anarcho-capitalist.org/pdf-archive/ must be wrong right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493820658 123898825,123940810,2017-05-03 14:11:33,">>123940515 She's the whole reason nobody believes you can have a moral, ethical libertarian state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493820693 123898825,123941404,2017-05-03 14:17:02,">>123940724 Morality isn't objective in any real sense. >>123940810 This. People hate her so they hate libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493821022 123898825,123941500,2017-05-03 14:18:00,"Why do people waste their time with moral arguments and instead focus on practical ones? Seriously, the only real way to convince people is to explain how free markets will benefit THEM.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493821080 123898825,123941743,2017-05-03 14:20:02,">>123940460 >>123940748 The archive there is only the introduction. The articles in the book can be found around the web, but having then in one place is convenient and they are ordered in a proper context. This book should be the first in the reading list.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493821202 123898825,123942101,2017-05-03 14:23:27,">>123941404 >>123941500 >Why do people waste their time with moral arguments Because it is WRONG to steal, because it is WRONG to murder. People Universally do not want to be murdered OR stolen from.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493821407 123898825,123942174,2017-05-03 14:24:01,">>123941500 Because we're happy to talk about economic anarchism and then people come to shitfling on moral grounds, and we either argue our points (like we have, every thread, for the past handful of months) or we ignore them and alienate people who leave the thread thinking the moral shitflinging is true. That's why so many of our posted images are just counterarguments to common ""no capital gains tax on transactions? what's to stop you from pimping grandma?"" type posts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493821441 123898825,123942408,2017-05-03 14:25:59,Why is Pinochet praised here when he was just another CIA puppet?,,Anonymous,1487988006707.jpg,bxzL2d2uC94XoPkSZmIGjQ==,US,,1493821559 123898825,123942702,2017-05-03 14:28:24,">>123942174 >what's to stop you from pimping grandma? Selling your grandmas body against her will is a violation of her self-ownership. The Non-Agression principle is a moral stance. Its pragmatic because it is moral, and in harmony with Natural Law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493821704 123898825,123942884,2017-05-03 14:30:15,">>123942101 >he actually thinks the vast majority of people give a shit that the rich have some money taken from them You people are KILLING libertarianism, it's your fucking fault our movement is dead, fuck you.",,Anonymous,1493436872582.jpg,11Z0wq3h3Ee2ccHhS5a7Ng==,CA,,1493821815 123898825,123942966,2017-05-03 14:30:50,">>123942408 Allende was just another KGB puppet and it's been proven.",,Anonymous,1493558671768.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,CA,,1493821850 123898825,123943079,2017-05-03 14:31:47,">>123942702 >natural law >real What are you religious or something?",,Anonymous,1485140123095.jpg,ZBTmWOeM/klamnF6bhxb9w==,CA,,1493821907 123898825,123943103,2017-05-03 14:32:05,">>123942702 Yeah yeah, and then we have another 200 Posts About Where The NAP Applies episode We understand it morally, and we also understand how it's conceptual in nature and people can break that principle. I was just answering the question of how /lrg/ turns into a moral discussion without fail, 100% of the time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493821925 123898825,123943154,2017-05-03 14:32:32,">>123942966 Not denying that. So is it then better to worship a CIA puppet than a KGB? Or should realize that neither were good choices?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493821952 123898825,123943252,2017-05-03 14:33:23,">>123943154 I'd rather take the CIA puppet and have a mixed economy with some economic freedom than take the KGB puppet and starve to death under socialism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493822003 123898825,123943607,2017-05-03 14:36:11,">>123942408 Because he physically removed commies. You think he cared about the NAP? Nope, but why should he have when the alternative was watching your country go down the shithole and watch your countrymen get rounded up and slaughtered by Marxists? With the resurgence of SJW/PC culture, It seems to me like the libertarian movement is slowly morphing into an all-purpose ""anti-left"" movement. Hence the new affinities with Traditionalists, immigration hawks, old-school Nationalists, and Alt-Right/Neoreaction types.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493822171 123898825,123943913,2017-05-03 14:38:56,">>123943079 Not at all. I just don't see how you can be a moral relativist and a libertarian. Can I trust you to respect my property if it's legitimacy is subjective to you? >>123943103 Non-aggression is a moral stance and is what most of liberty is based on. I have no doubt of it's pragmatic reasoning but it stems from morality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493822336 123898825,123943936,2017-05-03 14:39:06,">>123943607 >With the resurgence of SJW/PC culture, It seems to me like the libertarian movement is slowly morphing into an all-purpose ""anti-left"" movement. That's a really solid point, I don't consider myself a fairweather libertarian but I do see mindset in effect",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493822346 123898825,123945839,2017-05-03 14:55:20,">>123904550 most Ancap Jews, if not all, are Ashkenazis as well (and most right wing ones self hating ones at that)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493823320 123898825,123945976,2017-05-03 14:56:27,">>123943913 >Not at all. I just don't see how you can be a moral relativist and a libertarian. I'm not a moral relativists. I hate those people. I have strong morals. I just don't think morals are objective and I think moral arguments for free markets are a shitty strategy. Practical arguments are way better.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493823387 123898825,123947468,2017-05-03 15:08:14,">>123945976 Moral relativism is subjective morality. I don't argue for just free markets. I argue for free will. In accordance within non-aggression.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493824094 123898825,123947822,2017-05-03 15:10:58,">>123947468 >I argue for free will. Free will also doesn't exist. God damn",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493824258 123898825,123948960,2017-05-03 15:19:43,">>123947822 Why aren't you a NatSoc? If all things are determined then why not be the group that only cares for self preservation instead of running the risk that your genes won't pass on in a free market?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493824783 123898825,123949365,2017-05-03 15:22:47,">>123948960 >If all things are determined then why not be the group that only cares for self preservation instead of running the risk that your genes won't pass on in a free market? I don't know what the future holds. Look, people have kind of a free will, of course consciousness exists but yes, everything IS determined. Free will is an illusion. It doesn't make me less of an libertarian though.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493824967 123898825,123949693,2017-05-03 15:25:13,">>123927102 You're absolutely correct. For the heroes of the free market, they suck ass at marketing. t. Libertarian",,Anonymous,ancaplemonade.jpg,o6yc78mKWnbUGI/qoTEp/w==,US,,1493825113 123898825,123950219,2017-05-03 15:29:17,">>123949365 >>123949365 >Kind of free will >All things are determined You sound confused, why not submit to the state? The dice were rolled that way so it's the way things have to be? Liberty is a moral. That's why.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493825357 123898825,123950516,2017-05-03 15:31:38,">>123950219 >why not submit to the state? because I don't want to? >The dice were rolled that way Doesn't mean we can't change it. What kind of dumb arguments are these.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493825498 123898825,123951292,2017-05-03 15:37:26,">>123950516 >Doesn't mean we can't change it. You could even say it was... Your will to change it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493825846 123898825,123951798,2017-05-03 15:41:09,">>123951292 my brain wanting to change it, yes",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493826069 123898825,123952129,2017-05-03 15:43:17,Redpill me on Chicago Boys,,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493826197 123898825,123952189,2017-05-03 15:43:44,">>123952129 Keynesian lite",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493826224 123898825,123952632,2017-05-03 15:47:16,">>123951798 Your conscience",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493826436 123898825,123952730,2017-05-03 15:47:56,">>123952632 Yes, my brain.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493826476 123898825,123952954,2017-05-03 15:49:37,Lets see where /lrg/ stands,,Anonymous,download (2).png,VsgeVv1o2q+nTbjkuEYYGg==,GB,,1493826577 123898825,123953100,2017-05-03 15:50:41,>>123952954,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170422-144032.jpg,VWaIgDoPJ8NwGwYHvk3b4Q==,PT,,1493826641 123898825,123953402,2017-05-03 15:52:59,>>123952954,,Anonymous,IMG_20170423_081715.jpg,xh7U0UQ1tqVCwdTHN0/CUQ==,US,,1493826779 123898825,123953856,2017-05-03 15:56:17,">>123949693 Its because libertarians, and especially ancaps extremely autistic. Ideologically pure libertarians are interested in logically deduced ideology and autistic thought experiments. The tea party movement got strawmanned hard and made libertarianism ""cringy"" among the youth. So a lot of whats left are the kids that never gave a fuck about their social image anyways so they suck at relating their ideology to others",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493826977 124051020,124051020,2017-05-04 07:29:05,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - thro gommies oud of heligobders :DDDD edition,Anonymous,1493382463471.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,DE,,1493882945 124051020,124051061,2017-05-04 07:29:38,,,Anonymous,1493374024570.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,DE,,1493882978 124051020,124051114,2017-05-04 07:30:21,,,Anonymous,1493374043361.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,DE,,1493883021 124051020,124051165,2017-05-04 07:30:51,,,Anonymous,1493374069051.png,Ao8wXVVOFjOX7bswWhQDBA==,DE,,1493883051 124051020,124051208,2017-05-04 07:31:26,,,Anonymous,1493374090664.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,DE,,1493883086 124051020,124051574,2017-05-04 07:36:29,Wassap my freedom loving pals.,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1493883389 124051020,124052329,2017-05-04 07:47:11,">>124051020 NatSoc here, bumping because I'd rather have this at page 1 over the annual BLACKED threads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493884031 124051020,124052807,2017-05-04 07:53:47,">>124052329 Anything to rid ourselves of the commie menace.",,Anonymous,1490139941975.png,ntbLhzCfSyXOaC72ru9HKw==,US,,1493884427 124051020,124052988,2017-05-04 07:55:52,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E Absolutely required material. How moral a society is, and how free it is are forever tied. They are the dancers of fate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493884552 124051020,124053066,2017-05-04 07:56:57,,,Anonymous,1483331283436.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,US,,1493884617 124051020,124053104,2017-05-04 07:57:27,,,Anonymous,1483331390689.jpg,UGAuKCXjQern7FIY6tdt2w==,US,,1493884647 124051020,124053142,2017-05-04 07:57:52,Explain the libertarian party's support for open borders,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493884672 124051020,124053188,2017-05-04 07:58:29,I would unironically support anarcho capitalism without giving a shit how it works if it ever got its feet off the ground,,Anonymous,IMG_0335.jpg,8DS6AYIWtquNzvM6J7kKvA==,CA,,1493884709 124051020,124053207,2017-05-04 07:58:41,">>124052988 Yeah I watched this, libertarian Bros should watch too.",,Anonymous,quote_freedom_does_not_mean_that_right_to_do_whatever_we_please_but_rather_to_do_as_we_ought_fulton_j_sheen_94_3_0312.jpg,OZFWkqtBzu2EcOgXEPfaKw==,US,,1493884721 124051020,124053217,2017-05-04 07:58:45,*blocks your path*,,Anonymous,Larken_Rose_No_Rulers_t_shirt_smaller.jpg,diXcdmERR2t4t+vwa0vEBg==,AU,,1493884725 124051020,124053227,2017-05-04 07:58:53,">>124053142 Homosexuality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493884733 124051020,124053283,2017-05-04 07:59:26,">>124053142 >Acting like any other party besides democrats and republicans isn't Hegelian dialectic tier controlled opposition",,Anonymous,1491939871611.jpg,XwYeP6KAtCQ9/UseQWLSLQ==,US,,1493884766 124051020,124053374,2017-05-04 08:00:41,>>124052329,,Anonymous,1493219993192.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,US,,1493884841 124051020,124053496,2017-05-04 08:02:29,,,Anonymous,doitforhim.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,US,,1493884949 124051020,124053830,2017-05-04 08:07:09,"Who's the best right libertarian youtuber? Is it unironically Molyneux?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493885229 124051020,124053895,2017-05-04 08:08:11,">>124053830 Christopher Cantwell is pretty good too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493885291 124051020,124054107,2017-05-04 08:11:23,">>124053217 What path? >>124053895 Yeah Cantwell.",,Anonymous,chriscantwell.jpg,5u8Y+9COhp282tjuyJWfKA==,US,,1493885483 124051020,124054247,2017-05-04 08:13:12,Roads?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493885592 124051020,124054281,2017-05-04 08:13:48,">open borders >gun control Weld is a massive faggot, glad the Libertarian party got embarrassed by not getting their 5% again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493885628 124051020,124054327,2017-05-04 08:14:23,">>124054247 No /lrg/ is staunchly anti-road.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493885663 124051020,124054360,2017-05-04 08:14:48,">>124054247 >Countless children are raped, sacrificed, and eaten by current political elites. Unfettered human and drug trafficking. >Muh roads. O-okay.. >>124054281 Literally who?",,Anonymous,1492394243082.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1493885688 124051020,124054530,2017-05-04 08:17:27,">>124054247 Pay to use them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493885847 124051020,124054533,2017-05-04 08:17:27,">Indeed, in cooperation with one another, >insurers would want to expel known >criminals not just from their immediat >neighborhood, but from any civilization >altogether, into the wilderness or open >frontier of the Amazon jungle, the Sahara >or the polar regions",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1493885847 124051020,124054552,2017-05-04 08:17:42,">>124052988 A moral society is based on Christianity and God's word.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493885862 124051020,124054555,2017-05-04 08:17:43,made some shitty OC,,Anonymous,MaxResKrugman.png,1lPIfRQqGlhV3O5BqOyjEA==,US,,1493885863 124051020,124054605,2017-05-04 08:18:23,">>124054360 >not knowing the man you put up as VP You are more of an embarrassment then fat naked dance man at the libertarian convention",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493885903 124051020,124054639,2017-05-04 08:18:52,">>124054360 >countless because there is no evidence other then a handful of strange emails Schools?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493885932 124051020,124054662,2017-05-04 08:19:14,">>124054533 And they will deport me in the polar regions too if I mess up green text again",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1493885954 124051020,124054694,2017-05-04 08:19:42,"How does libertarianism solve pic related >inb4 don't let them in the first place pic is from bongland, they're already here you have to deal with them",,Anonymous,niqabs.jpg,liT7QITaHnbON4k8DLhlYw==,AU,,1493885982 124051020,124054709,2017-05-04 08:19:56,">>124054639 FUCKING PAY FOR THEM. THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE THE FUCKING SAME.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493885996 124051020,124054732,2017-05-04 08:20:11,">>124054639 There is also eyewitness testimony and many books on the matter",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493886011 124051020,124054754,2017-05-04 08:20:31,">>124053188 Need a violent purge/civil war first",,Anonymous,confederatepepe.jpg,k/1wRI26cq1NCZASY+/t2w==,US,,1493886031 124051020,124054832,2017-05-04 08:21:38,,,Anonymous,1488128920127.jpg,7A9qkEsIDghXvOUk0tjqpw==,US,,1493886098 124051020,124054902,2017-05-04 08:22:24,">>124054709 Legal tender?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493886144 124051020,124054914,2017-05-04 08:22:35,">>124054694 no white guilt bux to breed and removal if they get all governmenty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493886155 124051020,124054968,2017-05-04 08:23:27,">>124054902 Gold, cryptocurrencies, and private banknotes issued by respected banks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493886207 124051020,124054978,2017-05-04 08:23:31,">>124054694 Also almost everyone will be carrying so no more mass rampages with impunity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493886211 124051020,124055012,2017-05-04 08:24:00,">>124054968 This, also barter if you want. Trade goods and what not",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493886240 124051020,124055031,2017-05-04 08:24:20,">>124054968 Military?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493886260 124051020,124055092,2017-05-04 08:25:11,">>124055031 Private. Again pay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493886311 124051020,124055113,2017-05-04 08:25:23,What exactly is the difference between ancap and feudalism?,,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1493886323 124051020,124055319,2017-05-04 08:28:16,">>124055113 >What exactly is the difference between ancap and feudalism? What are the similarities?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493886496 124051020,124055484,2017-05-04 08:30:41,">>124055113 What's the difference between feudalism and now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493886641 124051020,124055854,2017-05-04 08:36:09,,,Anonymous,1492000492580.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1493886969 124051020,124055950,2017-05-04 08:37:31,">>124055319 Everything really, land owners essentially controlling everything. People who own a lot of land being kings, delegating sections to their lords.. etc >>124055484 A lot, the draft for starters",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1493887051 124051020,124056361,2017-05-04 08:43:14,Oh yeah!!!!,,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,PT,,1493887394 124051020,124056608,2017-05-04 08:46:25,">>124054978 >>124054914 so you'd still let them walk around like that? You wouldn't just deport them? cucked as fuck",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493887585 124051020,124056652,2017-05-04 08:46:58,">>124056608 Deport them? They wouldn't be allowed to enter.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493887618 124051020,124056852,2017-05-04 08:49:45,">>124056652 but they're already in many western countries",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493887785 124051020,124057080,2017-05-04 08:52:40,">>124056852 You start a commune (or suburb) where you only sell to white Christians.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493887960 124051020,124057605,2017-05-04 08:59:30,">>124057080 so you give up, basically",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493888370 124051020,124057641,2017-05-04 09:00:01,>>124054247,,Anonymous,muh roads.jpg,r+Nir6uGpVlNCLV+bfyI0w==,CA,,1493888401 124051020,124057747,2017-05-04 09:01:25,">>124057605 Are you retarded?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493888485 124051020,124057991,2017-05-04 09:04:41,">>124056608 >>124056852 >>124057605 >reeeeee stop wearing stuff I don't like >reeeeee that offends me!! In all seriousness, I could see that some insurance agencies, in specific localities, would require a ban on veils covering the face for anti-crime reasons. If not, then so what? Let these women wear what they want; no one would be forced to employ, sell to or otherwise have any interaction with them. Stores could (and most likely would) have signs saying ""no veils"" just as today they have ""no dogs, no smokers, no beggars, etc."" -- except, of course, these restrictions would be private and therefore voluntary, unlike a state that tells us what we can and cannot do with our bodies and our establishments.",,Anonymous,awesome image.png,eb640y8BE7QVZtqFdaxdCg==,PT,,1493888681 124051020,124058027,2017-05-04 09:05:04,">>124057641 b-but road networks and the like are about the scale, not complexity",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1493888704 124051020,124058059,2017-05-04 09:05:25,">>124057747 in the name of 'freedom' you cede territory to some mudslime invaders, that's what you're saying effectively.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493888725 124051020,124058115,2017-05-04 09:06:13,">>124058059 So you want to forcibly deport them? Go ahead. Pay for it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493888773 124051020,124058147,2017-05-04 09:06:39,">>124054694 cut their welfare see how far they go",,Anonymous,,,CY,,1493888799 124051020,124058314,2017-05-04 09:08:46,">>124058115 everyone must contribute to the deportation, it's for the good of the nation",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493888926 124051020,124058460,2017-05-04 09:10:39,">>124058059 You don't need to cede territories to anyone. Just cut the gibs and they fuck off back to where they came from. If not, they stay in the host country but must live a disgusting life on the streets.... Oh wait, they can't do that either because streets are also privately owned and the property owners have every reason to expel those who bring down its value. Portugal took in some ""refugees"" and most of them fled to Germany and Denmark after a few weeks. These people come to our countries to flee from war, but also to leech off of our welfare states. Remove the welfare state and the states in their countries, and they'll stay there and we can simply trade from a distance if people don't like them.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493889039 124051020,124058471,2017-05-04 09:10:49,">>124054694 Islam conflicts with libertarianism and therefore cannot be tolerated",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493889049 124051020,124058770,2017-05-04 09:14:47,"Libertarianism is meh, Rhine capitalism aka Soziale Marktwirtschaft is the way to go.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1493889287 124051020,124058790,2017-05-04 09:15:04,,,Anonymous,Hoppe quote.jpg,oODt2L5Psj5PFgc04lpqfg==,AU,,1493889304 124051020,124058807,2017-05-04 09:15:22,">>124057641 You missed the point, leaf.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493889322 124051020,124058884,2017-05-04 09:16:25,">>124054694 The central muslim organisation would buy some land and establish an islamic state where s high amount of muslims, so you don't see them in your area. As soon as they attack someone and as they violate the NAP, they get fucked by privat anti-islam security.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493889385 124051020,124059211,2017-05-04 09:20:23,">>124058884 Even the organization itself, if it were private, would keep the radicals off. Radical Islamic terrorists raise premium costs of insurance and make a hassle for everyone's life, not just for us, so I think that if the current Islamic states were to crumble radical Islam would also crumble.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1493889623 124051020,124059696,2017-05-04 09:26:39,">>124054694 Are you people literally retarded? The reason they are here is because of welfare,end that and they will go back,private death squads will clean up those who stay.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1493889999 124051020,124060697,2017-05-04 09:40:08,">>124054247 >>124058807 http://exame.abril.com.br/brasil/como-tapetes-as-10-melhores-estradas-brasileiras-em-2013/ http://www.vidadecaminhoneiro.com.br/veja-tambem/saiba-quais-sao-as-10-melhores-estradas-do-brasil/ 10 best roads in Brazil, all 10 are private, in every ranking.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493890808 124051020,124060801,2017-05-04 09:41:23,>>124051020,,Anonymous,1457485847848.jpg,5+8NW2nLf9t0d3ItEWLUpQ==,BR,,1493890883 124051020,124061095,2017-05-04 09:45:14,">>124060697 I understand in Brazil they have a private law system. Can you tell me how it is, do you have any experience with it?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493891114 124051020,124061418,2017-05-04 09:49:17,">>124061095 We do not have such a system, sorry to disappoint. Unless you were making a satirical commentary on our corrupt upper courts, in which case you are on point.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493891357 124051020,124061926,2017-05-04 09:55:09,">>124061095 you mean the conciliations sessions? yes, they are very helpful, I never used it but most lesser disputes are solved throught it.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493891709 124051020,124062074,2017-05-04 09:56:52,">>124061418 Maybe it's your lacking English skills but I am not being sarcastic. It's just what I have heard from another Brazillian. Is there a big libertarian movement, a lot of libertarian stuff is translated into Portugese.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493891812 124051020,124062891,2017-05-04 10:07:26,">>124061926 >>124061095 Pardon me, but I didn't make that association since I don't think it's that similar to a ""private"" system as far as I recall. It's basically the ability to settle small lawsuits outside of court using a private intermediary. It's usually used because most small cases take more than 5 years to be judged, so it's a way to ""unclog"" the system. Also yes, there's a growing movement for libertarianism here, quickly disseminated by facebook and other social medias, but still not as prevalent as traditional conservatism and commies (freaking everywhere, I shit you not).",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493892446 124051020,124064281,2017-05-04 10:22:55,Bump,,Anonymous,physically_removed_2.png,sONErO6I9N64VyGp7IkqkQ==,US,,1493893375 124051020,124064290,2017-05-04 10:23:01,"Geolibertarianism is the belief that each individual has an exclusive right to the fruits of his or her labor, and thus an exclusive right to the value of those fruits; and that all individuals have an equal rightto land, and thus an equal right to the value of land. By embracing this belief, geolibertarians are simply taking the core libertarian principle of self-ownership to its logical conclusion: Just as the right to oneself implies the right to the fruit of one's labor (i.e., the right to property), the right to the fruit of one's labor implies the right to labor, and the right to labor implies the right to labor -- somewhere. Hence John Locke's proviso that one has ""property"" in land only to the extent that there is ""enough, and as good left in common for others."" When there is not, land begins to have rental value. Thus, the rental value of land reflects the extent to which Locke's proviso has been violated, thereby making community-collection of rent (CCR) a just and necessary means of upholding the Lockean principle of private property. In the late 19th century, CCR became known as the ""Single Tax"" -- a term often used to denote Henry George's proposal to abolish all taxation save for a single tax on the value of land (irrespective of the value of improvements in or on it). Throughout the rest of this FAQ I will often refer to the Single Tax as the LVT (land value tax).",,What is Geolibertarianism?,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1493893381 124051020,124064994,2017-05-04 10:30:31,,,Anonymous,8709ab5987febdc2d8c7c9142332fa16f7f3c3d0f333dfffdb263c61a83a41f4_1.jpg,pEj1OO4IhI87NvFji0lH1g==,BR,,1493893831 124051020,124065529,2017-05-04 10:36:10,">>124064290 >Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493894170 124051020,124065737,2017-05-04 10:38:24,">>124065529 Royal libertarians are ideologically inconsistent",,What is Geolibertarianism?,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1493894304 124051020,124066317,2017-05-04 10:44:24,Yes goys open the borders for the free market,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493894664 124051020,124066500,2017-05-04 10:46:18,">>124066317 No, fuck open borders fag.",,Anonymous,merchant_piano.jpg,RSo5Qyg4KIMnYDVLC9IubA==,US,,1493894778 124051020,124066555,2017-05-04 10:46:49,">>124053142 The problem of open-borders is complicated. There could be no immigration restriction in Ancapistan that would violate the right of freedom of travel. The libertarian stance on open-borders should be therefore exactly that and like for any other government program that extends government power it should be opposed. However, the immigration of further nonintegrable ""citizens"" threatens to bloat the welfare state and extend government power anyway so in the long run it's a non-issue. A re-arrengement of priorities needs to happen, otherwise the state makes it impossible for you to consistently stick by your ideals. The reason why those people are flocking to the West is benefits in the first place so the welfare state needs go to first. Being anti or for immigration doesn't matter after that. Either way, one thing you can be sure is that no ancap would hold the liberal position of accepting even more refugees. As a moral conundrum only blocking access is the issue, not encouraging more for to travel over. Hope that makes sense. You wouldn't have to live with either muzzies or nigger in ancap society if you didn't have to",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493894809 124051020,124066605,2017-05-04 10:47:19,">>124066500 Open borders is an inseparable key opponent of (((libertarianism)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493894839 124051020,124066772,2017-05-04 10:48:47,">>124066317 >>124066605 Opening borders without destroying the welfare-state is nonsensical. They are the one and the same issue.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493894927 124051020,124067134,2017-05-04 10:52:21,">>124065737 State does not have private property. That's the whole fucking point. It has illegitimate property claims all over ""its land"" and all the private properties on it",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493895141 124051020,124067630,2017-05-04 10:57:30,Is the decline of the west a good book to read?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493895450 124051020,124068110,2017-05-04 11:02:24,">>124062891 That sounds 'private' and is a far better solution than government courts. Many companies also prefer private arbitration to the public courts.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493895744 124051020,124068689,2017-05-04 11:08:29,">>124067134 private property is illegitimate because it's all enforced by the state you pay taxes so the state will pay the pigs to enforce private property laws",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493896109 124051020,124068822,2017-05-04 11:09:43,">>124068689 >it's all enforced by the state How many times do I have to explain this here? Some else do it for me",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493896183 124051020,124069812,2017-05-04 11:20:03,>>124066605,,Anonymous,C6LCK_QWgAAFQQW.jpg,mSEHJZEWR0omFsW2nJ1cUg==,US,,1493896803 124051020,124071101,2017-05-04 11:32:50,">>124054694 Guess how. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,1493325020650.png,k8PxL2s8njELzZSJTCdA7g==,DE,,1493897570 124051020,124072159,2017-05-04 11:43:39,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493898219 124051020,124072669,2017-05-04 11:48:23,To stimulate some discussion here is a question I've been thinking about: How would the problem of privacy solved? Say stalking or spying? What's to stop someone 2 miles away from your property on watching you through a telescope?,,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493898503 124051020,124072706,2017-05-04 11:48:40,">>124068689 land is a state enforced monopoly; property rights are central to any libertarian philosophy including the so called left/geoist side of the party The right/royal wing of the is just confused and somehow thinks that land becomes private property when one mixes one's labor with it. And mixing what is yours with what is not yours in order to own the whole thing is considered great sport. But the notion is filled with problems. How much labor does it take to claim land, and how much land can one claim for that labor? And for how long can one make that claim? According to classical liberals, land belonged to the user for as long as the land was being used, and no longer. But according to royal libertarians, land belongs to the first user, forever. So, do the oceans belong to the heirs of the first person to take a fish out or put a boat in? Does someone who plows the same field each year own only one field, while someone who plows a different field each year owns dozens of fields? Should the builder of the first transcontinental railroad own the continent? Shouldn't we at least have to pay a toll to cross the tracks? Are there no common rights to the earth at all? To royal libertarians there are not, but classical liberals recognized that unlimited ownership of land never flowed from use, but from the state:",,What is Geolibertarianism?,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,US,,1493898520 124051020,124072993,2017-05-04 11:51:10,>>124072669,,Anonymous,index.jpg,v9NMLGZF8ipA18oBO3A0aQ==,BR,,1493898670 124051020,124073004,2017-05-04 11:51:19,">>124072706 >and belongs to the first user, forever People are immortal, now?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493898679 124051020,124073155,2017-05-04 11:52:38,">>124072706 Mutualism, now!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493898758 124051020,124073593,2017-05-04 11:56:52,">>124072706 Jesus fucking Christ, what a commie sign. >I take the profit without earning it. He payed 3600 for it, you didn't, he earned it, you didn't. He had the foresight of buying the lot in a community which he thought would thrive, does the government refund the loss of property value in ghost towns?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493899012 124051020,124073741,2017-05-04 11:58:22,">>124073004 forever meaning he could bequeath it however he saw fit, like in a monarchy hence Royal libertarians. If you make a man king of an island or owner of all the land it makes no difference >>124073155 No thanks, take your commy shit someplace else; Georgism is not a mutualist/communist/socialist system. Its rooted in property rights",,What is Geolibertarianism?,AnarchismTree09.gif,7QPD8RGPI7DZoPFc+kgttQ==,US,,1493899102 124051020,124073979,2017-05-04 12:00:34,">>124073741 Why stop with socializing land ;^)?",,Anonymous,y1Lkju6.png,BB3g3qXql0AUxEfoFrCYrA==,AU,,1493899234 124051020,124074004,2017-05-04 12:00:50,">>124073593 silly monkey Goergism is one of the staunchest defenses of capitalism every created by man Marxism? No, it is based on the Lockean idea that the right to land is an equal right. By that I mean: the idea that an individual has ""property"" in land only to the extent that there is, in the words of John Locke, ""enough, and as good left in common for others."" In that sense, the right to land is not a collective right, but an individual right that exists independently of the collective (i.e. ""society""). The equality of this right is merely a limitation that arises from the presence of others with like rights. By contrast, a collective right to land dictates that an individual does not have a right to use any land unless society -- either explicitly or by omission -- has granted him the right to do so. With the equal right to land, one does not require the consent of society to use land. The right to the use of land belongs at birth to each individual. So while the consent of others is not needed, it is, nevertheless, necessary that in the exercise of that right, one does not infringe upon the equal right of others -- i.e., violate Locke's proviso that there be ""enough, and as good left in common for others."" And since the rental value of land provides an accurate measure of the extent to which said proviso has been violated, ""others"" should be compensated in accordance with that value. At the same time, of course, all taxes on labor and capital should be abolished, since they violate the exclusive right that each individual has to the fruits of his own labor.",,What is Geolibertarianism?,capita.jpg,W72SLUCJ6GP4ILTMYuThWw==,US,,1493899250 124051020,124074342,2017-05-04 12:04:22,">>124073979 Sick memes bro The classical liberal distinctions between land, labor and capital were greatly confused by socialists, and particularly Marxists, who substituted the fuzzy abstract term, ""means of production,"" for all three factors. They also blurred the distinction between common property and state property, for socialists believed, as royalty also believed, that they were the people. Today, the confusions between land and capital and between state property and common property are shared by socialists and royal libertarians, and only classical liberals keep these distinctions clearly defined. Yet royal libertarians frequently duck the land issue by charging that it is the classical liberals, not the royal libertarians, who have embraced socialist ideas.",,What is Geolibertarianism?,willy.jpg,f5IEpTYdzB/nJ7KEauYaCQ==,US,,1493899462 124051020,124074445,2017-05-04 12:05:30,">>124074342 >socialists >state ;) u cheeky bugger",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493899530 124051020,124074564,2017-05-04 12:06:45,">>124074004 >""enough, and as good left in common for others."" sounds an awful lot like >""From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"" Any time this type of shit comes up it's sure as fuck the ""need"" will be measured and determined by some bureaucrat, and always will result in corruption and camaraderie.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493899605 124051020,124074879,2017-05-04 12:09:50,">>124074564 Marx out right rejected George and called his ideas ""capitalism's last ditch"". Your confusing state and common land. The distinction between common property and state property is lost on royal libertarians. Common property is that to which we all have inalienable rights. State property is that which the state actually owns, and can dispose of as it sees fit. For example, a public right of way is literally a right of way. Under principles of common law, nobody, not even the king, could close a traveled road and make it private property. A state maintenance truck, on the other hand, is state property, which can be sold if it no longer suits state purposes. The earth, therefore, and all things therein, are the general property of all mankind, from the immediate gift of the Creator. --William Blackstone It is a royal libertarian notion, and not a classical liberal ideal, to treat land as state property, for if land did not rightfully belong to the state, how could the state have granted it to favored citizens? Classical liberals, not royal libertarians, are the ones who deny the state's right to appropriate the earth and allocate it to privileged individuals on favored terms. Classical liberals also who hold the key to abolishing taxation, by suggesting that the community (not the state) charge a user fee to landholders based on the value of the land.",,What is Geolibertarianism?,k41V9sG.jpg,ZyhaoL9vTAUfTbHmXq59+A==,US,,1493899790 124051020,124075023,2017-05-04 12:11:19,">>124074879 >Marx out right rejected George and called his ideas ""capitalism's last ditch"". he was right.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493899879 124051020,124075032,2017-05-04 12:11:26,">>124074004 under this system of taxation allodial land would be abolished right? and what about inheritances? what about teenagers whose parents die, who can't pay the land tax anymore? are they without home then? and a last thing, what to do with nature and wildlife, with forests, with gardens,....? they are all ""unproductive"" according to your idea",,Anonymous,1489529872726.jpg,pZRAAEAkIXyBpZSRbmJfZA==,BE,,1493899886 124051020,124075061,2017-05-04 12:11:40,">>124058770 >welfare Ew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493899900 124051020,124075461,2017-05-04 12:15:42,">>124073741 >Commy You're a commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493900142 124051020,124076055,2017-05-04 12:21:33,">>124075032 and what about inheritances? what about teenagers whose parents die, who can't pay the land tax anymore? are they without home then? As pie in the sky as it may seem; it is my belief and that of many other that under a full LVT system; wages would increase, all other forms of taxation would be abolished so the need for an inheritance would be dramatically less. As far as becoming wards of the state and a welfare system this is a debate that can be had along a georgist paradigm considering the citizens dividend/UBI component of the LVT. It would be up to the people who form the government to decide how and what to spend the tax revenue on",,What is Geolibertarianism?,,,US,,1493900493 124051020,124076149,2017-05-04 12:22:37,">>124074879 Kindly explain the proper way in which land is owned, sold, and used in your ""geoist"" system.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493900557 124051020,124076300,2017-05-04 12:24:05,">>124076149 There are now two parts to a purchase. The purchaser must agree to pay a Site Rental for as long as they occupy the site, to the Government (not the bank). This represents the cost of the land component, the amount that today typically consumes 70% of a mortgage price. The second part to an auction is the purchasing of the improvements – the building. This is what the past owner receives from the auction. This is also the amount that the purchaser may need to borrow from the bank. This may mean we are borrowing $70,000 – $150,000, rather than the full $350,000 plus amounts of today. As long as we pay the Site Rental and keep the bank happy, we maintain possession of the site.",,What is Geolibertarianism?,"Poll tax, LVT, Income tax.png",vMTrYQ0YxJLGNAWpOt3grg==,US,,1493900645 124051020,124076352,2017-05-04 12:24:40,">>124051020 >libertarian >ancap picture",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493900680 124051020,124076427,2017-05-04 12:25:12,">>124076300 Ok, i'm with you. What if the rental is not paid?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493900712 124051020,124076654,2017-05-04 12:27:11,">>124076427 >inb4 violation of the NAP same thing that happens to people who dodge rightful debts today",,What is Geolibertarianism?,,,US,,1493900831 124051020,124076747,2017-05-04 12:28:02,">>124076654 What happens to the improvements made to the land?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493900882 124051020,124076806,2017-05-04 12:28:30,">>124064281 Hoppe looks so fucking cool in that picture it's insane.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493900910 124051020,124077175,2017-05-04 12:31:58,">>124076747 same as happens today; this is just a different more just and efficient way of raising funds for a government",,What is Geolibertarianism?,,,US,,1493901118 124051020,124077242,2017-05-04 12:32:39,">>124076747 Or are you asking of taxes? Property tax would be abolished",,What is Geolibertarianism?,,,US,,1493901159 124051020,124077266,2017-05-04 12:32:51,">>124053142 We believe that soft cultural controls are better implemented than flat banning an activity. Without social welfare programs and free gibs, immigrants will be forced to adapt or starve. While I, personally am something of a racial realist (Different human subspecies have adapted to different environments.) I don't think the solution is to maintain absolute segregation between races. If they come into our environment, they need to adapt to it as we have by adopting our culture and work ethics, or starve to death in the (privately funded) streets.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493901171 124051020,124077368,2017-05-04 12:33:38,">>124067630 I'm reading it currently. Pat is absolutely on spot in terms of diagnosing the problem (loss of Christianity, moral degeneration, economic plunder, leftist subversion, illegal immigration, civil rights, etc.) but he is way, way off in terms of solutions. He basically wants to restrict free trade to protect ""American"" jobs, he wants a strong government thay gives welfare to couples to have children, disability and old age retirement benefits, and a bunch of other statist crap. Here's Hoppe's take on it: https://web.archive.org/web/20111008152542/http://www.lewrockwell.com/hoppe/hoppe6.html",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493901218 124051020,124077754,2017-05-04 12:37:12,">>124077175 How is the price of a piece of land determined? Bidding from interested parties or does some bureaucrat make that decision?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493901432 124051020,124078310,2017-05-04 12:42:42,">>124077754 current market price less the current value of all improvements so yes the market would determine prices",,What is Geolibertarianism?,game-design-3-638.jpg,aFcFBJvxgU7NP2S7iy2Ijw==,US,,1493901762 124051020,124078511,2017-05-04 12:44:29,">>124078310 This seems reasonable, thank you for the education.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493901869 124051020,124078763,2017-05-04 12:46:52,">>124051020 This is my old political compass",,Anonymous,chart.png,SOJkcuTJ96U3wHlgto3jog==,TR,,1493902012 124051020,124078859,2017-05-04 12:47:40,">>124078763 And this is my new one. Am I slowly becoming a libertanian?",,Anonymous,chart.png,aQn5ko12o1dyRQ7XirxjvQ==,TR,,1493902060 124051020,124078909,2017-05-04 12:48:11,">>124056361 Oh no!!",,Anonymous,1482536793743.jpg,P1HIFNxWyJ77RhHXDAsq3g==,US,,1493902091 124051020,124078996,2017-05-04 12:49:00,">>124053142 Without the welfare state open borders is less of an issue.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493902140 124051020,124079075,2017-05-04 12:49:44,">>124078909 can some one make me some Georgist meme balls?",,What is Geolibertarianism?,,,US,,1493902184 124051020,124079294,2017-05-04 12:52:05,"Any system in which social relationships are determined entirely by economic factors is contrary to the nature of the human person and his acts. A theory that makes profit the exclusive norm and ultimate end of economic activity is morally unacceptable. The disordered desire for money cannot but produce perverse effects. It is one of the causes of the many conflicts which disturb the social order. A system that ""subordinates the basic rights of individuals and of groups to the collective organization of production"" is contrary to human dignity. Every practice that reduces persons to nothing more than a means of profit enslaves man, leads to idolizing money, and contributes to the spread of atheism. The development of economic activity and growth in production are meant to provide for the needs of human beings. Economic life is not meant solely to multiply goods produced and increase profit or power; it is ordered first of all to the service of persons, of the whole man, and of the entire human community. Economic activity, conducted according to its own proper methods, is to be exercised within the limits of the moral order, in keeping with social justice so as to correspond to God's plan for man. ""Economic activity, especially the activity of a market economy, cannot be conducted in an institutional, juridical, or political vacuum. On the contrary, it presupposes sure guarantees of individual freedom and private property, as well as a stable currency and efficient public services. Hence the principal task of the state is to guarantee this security, so that those who work and produce can enjoy the fruits of their labors and thus feel encouraged to work efficiently and honestly. . . . Another task of the state is that of overseeing and directing the exercise of human rights in the economic sector. However, primary responsibility in this area belongs not to the state but to individuals and to the various groups and associations which make up society.""",,Anonymous,pope-pius-xi.jpg,dOPfI2Yn5nF4DZYgllj5QA==,US,,1493902325 124051020,124079455,2017-05-04 12:53:55,">>124078859 Why do you care? Erdogan's boot will crush you no matter what.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493902435 124051020,124079790,2017-05-04 12:57:05,">>124066605 Why do you keep spreading that lie?",,Anonymous,1488490376562.jpg,i5gyLIWDIVneA3yXPg+EkA==,BR,,1493902625 124051020,124079872,2017-05-04 12:57:53,">>124079294 Does anyone have the speech that talks about capitalism being an artificial intelligence?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493902673 124051020,124080088,2017-05-04 12:59:28,">>124079294 >The development of economic activity and growth in production are meant to provide for the needs of human beings. Economic life is not meant solely to multiply goods produced and increase profit or power; it is ordered first of all to the service of persons, of the whole man, and of the entire human community. Economic activity, conducted according to its own proper methods, is to be exercised within the limits of the moral order, in keeping with social justice so as to correspond to God's plan for man. Any alternative to capitalism will lead to starvation and tyranny. I'm sure Jesus would prefer 300 million fat cunts with iphones over 20 million starving skeletons +280million corpses.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493902768 124051020,124080249,2017-05-04 13:01:11,,,Anonymous,Moonman.png,CmNh1b1detcJmtfavvL1Cg==,US,,1493902871 124051020,124080346,2017-05-04 13:01:57,">>124079294 Capitalists are unforgiving kikes putting profit over their fellow Christians. Reminds me of some certain money changers in a certain temple.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493902917 124051020,124080416,2017-05-04 13:02:36,">>124080088 >he fell for Jewish memes meant to subvert Catholic social teaching",,Anonymous,5475f07b98fe34f609a8e5f46ead6b85--the-frog-frogs.jpg,1sHUQfYW2B2YolqcVz+AXw==,US,,1493902956 124051020,124080462,2017-05-04 13:03:04,,,Anonymous,C36ZRd0WMAEp8hV.jpg,dFpgCIjVheseKn/lIGKZbg==,IE,,1493902984 124051020,124080795,2017-05-04 13:06:11,">>124079455 It feels good to imagine at least",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493903171 124051020,124081073,2017-05-04 13:08:49,">>124080462 >citing Popper Will libertarianism start cannibalizing itself like the lefties? >>124080416 Now it all makes sense, the soviets were subversive jews who subjugated their country to communism for a decade just to prove capitalism right!",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493903329 124051020,124081123,2017-05-04 13:09:11,">>124080795 You still have a lot of catching up to do man. Start by reading one of the books in the core reading list and go from there. Godspeed.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20161117-205609.jpg,SmW0P+R1hE+bkSH7F9TuRQ==,PT,,1493903351 124051020,124081145,2017-05-04 13:09:25,">>124052329 >NatSoc Why tho? If you understand the upsides of libertarianism, why would you support an ideology which is fundamentally opposed to it?",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1493903365 124051020,124081273,2017-05-04 13:10:41,">>124080795 Don't be a retarded roach. Listen to portugalbro, go pick up one of the books. We need more ancap people in Turkey.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493903441 124051020,124081456,2017-05-04 13:12:15,">>124081145 white and western culture is the driving force of libertarianism. If we allow western culture to die, so will libertarianism.",,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,US,,1493903535 124051020,124081649,2017-05-04 13:13:48,so is any of stefan molymeme's books worth reading?,,Anonymous,1490139222105.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1493903628 124051020,124082288,2017-05-04 13:17:57,">>124081456 Partly agree but it contradicts with the actual facts as it stands. I believe Brazil has the biggest ancap population if not any libertarian traditions.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493903877 124051020,124082290,2017-05-04 13:17:58,Had a thread before asking people's viewpoint on slavery in an anarcho/libertarian society. Would you own slaves? Would you buy/sell from someone who owns slaves? How would you feel about big businesses that use a 90% slave workforce for near-free labour?,,Anonymous,1491362891649.jpg,L2JcHsU/Zq6c/GEymkPUFg==,HU,,1493903878 124051020,124082590,2017-05-04 13:20:31,">>124081073 >not knowing that Jews play both sides lurk moar newfag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493904031 124051020,124082794,2017-05-04 13:22:05,">>124079872 Isn't that Nick Land or something like that? I remember seeing that somewhere...",,Anonymous,1493026316916.png,Yu1ZHueNGESOb9WnP7Gazw==,PT,,1493904125 124051020,124082833,2017-05-04 13:22:22,">>124082290 If you are asking this question, you don't understand anarcho-capitalism. Try looking up natural rights and self-ownership",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493904142 124051020,124083032,2017-05-04 13:24:08,">>124081649 Kek that's some old OC of mine. Does Stef have any books other than UPB?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493904248 124051020,124083052,2017-05-04 13:24:12,">>124081273 Tarihinizi, kültürünüzü, literatürünüzü, yemeğinizi, ve dilinizi çok seviyorum. Daha Türkiye'deki liberteryenler varsa, çok mutlu olacağım <3 It seems to me that the principle problem is that Islam is an inherently left-wing authoritarian ideology, and as Turkey's becoming less secular and more islamist (with the recent election and everything), there will be no chance for a strong libertarian presence in the country.",,Anonymous,ural-batır.jpg,Y2bQATlG1lB3EwwswXhyaA==,US,,1493904252 124051020,124083067,2017-05-04 13:24:19,">>124078859 Nice.. That's you defeating the Marxist indoctrination that we are spoon fed in school.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493904259 124051020,124083313,2017-05-04 13:26:20,">>124082590 anarcho-capitalism would be the jews worst nightmare, because there would be no state for them to bribe and lobby in order to manipulate the market",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493904380 124051020,124083381,2017-05-04 13:26:50,">>124082290 I wouldn't own slaves because I'd rather have murderers executed on the spot after conviction rather than letting them roam the streets with chains, God knows what they could do. >>124082833 I think Bulgariabro is referring to convicted murderers whose crimes have essentially voided their self ownership status. I believe that Rothbardian ethics would allow the legal representatives and heirs of murdered persons to completely own the murderer since the latter deprived his victim of his ultimate right to self ownership, hence forfeiting his own. In theory, the heir would become the absolute master of the murderer permanently.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493904410 124051020,124083392,2017-05-04 13:26:57,">>124083032 apparently he has a shitload of books but nobody ever talks about them https://freedomainradio.com/free/ really curious if anybody else is familiar with them or what I would be in for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493904417 124051020,124083520,2017-05-04 13:28:01,">>124080249 Ugh, I'm ancap but Molymemes has become so smug with people who call him, it's disgusting.",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1493904481 124051020,124083550,2017-05-04 13:28:17,">>124083052 I'm a Turkish citizen but I'm not a Turk. AnCap is unworkable here. You just have to toe the line, stand your ground and work against eroding state power. Of course, this is especially hard because Turks are brainwashed to think state equals nation, therefore anyone who is against the state is against Turks.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493904497 124051020,124083592,2017-05-04 13:28:33,">>124079294 That's why eventually money must be disposed off and a voluntary contributionist communities will form. Its a necessary evil because of how ingrained it is in our psyche, but a gift economy cannot be taken advantage of, pushed into war, or inflated and deflated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493904513 124051020,124083672,2017-05-04 13:29:09,">>124083392 Well shit I didn't know that, never read any of his stuff. But I imagine there's good stuff inside since the more cucked libertarians hate him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493904549 124051020,124083722,2017-05-04 13:29:32,">>124082288 I fucking hate you non-whites on this board sometimes",,Anonymous,6a00d83451b31c69e2012876b2d447970c.gif,Pgp01nhfspqi++ygq/HwyA==,AU,,1493904572 124051020,124083859,2017-05-04 13:30:46,">>124083381 I believe in proportional punishment but essentially it would the nature of restitution would have to be left with the offended party. >>124083722 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493904646 124051020,124083912,2017-05-04 13:31:11,>>124051020,,Anonymous,download_20170503_113103.jpg,8E/3BjJtmfIC45gm40qa0w==,US,,1493904671 124051020,124084075,2017-05-04 13:32:40,">>124083859 >the nature of restitution would have to be left with the offended party This is what Rothbardian theory of punishment amounts to tho.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493904760 124051020,124084405,2017-05-04 13:35:37,">>124083592 More than a mean to trade, money is also a ""information holder"", it signals producers how much the consumer is willing to pay and how much should be produced. The extinction of currency would lead to the same problems the soviet union had, as it could not efficiently allocate resources.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493904937 124051020,124084466,2017-05-04 13:36:10,"Thus, it should be quite clear that, under libertarian law, capital punishment would have to be confined strictly to the crime of murder. For a criminal would only lose his right to life if he had first deprived some victim of that same right. It would not be permissible, then, for a merchant whose bubble gum had been stolen, to execute the convicted bubble gum thief. If he did so, then he, the merchant, would be an unjustifiable murderer, who could be brought to the bar of justice by the heirs or assigns of the bubble gum thief. But, in libertarian law, there would be no compulsion on the plaintiff, or his heirs, to exact this maximum penalty. If the plaintiff or his heir, for example, did not believe in capital punishment, for whatever reason, he could voluntarily forgive the victim of part or all of his penalty. If he were a Tolstoyan, and was opposed to punishment altogether, he could simply forgive the criminal, and that would be that. Or — and this has a long and honorable tradition in older Western law — the victim or his heir could allow the criminal to buy his way out of part or all of his punishment. Thus, if proportionality allowed the victim to send the criminal to jail for ten years, the criminal could, if the victim wished, pay the victim to reduce or eliminate this sentence. The proportionality theory only supplies the upper bound to punishment — since it tells us how much punishment a victim may rightfully impose.",,Anonymous,a29a5f74fd825ff9f747e2556f5c78ca.jpg,FGC+dL9L/JfYyW1WqngUJQ==,PT,,1493904970 124051020,124084595,2017-05-04 13:37:21,"A problem might arise in the case of murder — since a victim's heirs might prove less than diligent in pursuing the murderer, or be unduly inclined to let the murderer buy his way out of punishment. This problem could be taken care of simply by people stating in their wills what punishment they should like to inflict on their possible murderers. The believer in strict retribution, as well as the Tolstoyan opponent of all punishment, could then have their wishes precisely carried out. The deceased, indeed, could provide in his will for, say, a crime insurance company to which he subscribes to be the prosecutor of his possible murderer. If, then, proportionality sets the upper bound to punishment, how may we establish proportionality itself? The first point is that the emphasis in punishment must be not on paying one's debt to ""society,"" whatever that may mean, but in paying one's ""debt"" to the victim. Certainly, the initial part of that debt is restitution. This works clearly in cases of theft. If A has stolen $15,000 from B, then the first, or initial, part of A's punishment must be to restore that $15,000 to the hands of B (plus damages, judicial and police costs, and interest foregone). Suppose that, as in most cases, the thief has already spent the money. In that case, the first step of proper libertarian punishment is to force the thief to work, and to allocate the ensuing income to the victim until the victim has been repaid. The ideal situation, then, puts the criminal frankly into a state of enslavement to his victim, the criminal continuing in that condition of just slavery until he has redressed the grievance of the man he has wronged.3",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493905041 124051020,124084728,2017-05-04 13:38:29,"We must note that the emphasis of restitution-punishment is diametrically opposite to the current practice of punishment. What happens nowadays is the following absurdity: A steals $15,000 from B. The government tracks down, tries, and convicts A, all at the expense of B, as one of the numerous taxpayers victimized in this process. Then, the government, instead of forcing A to repay B or to work at forced labor until that debt is paid, forces B, the victim, to pay taxes to support the criminal in prison for ten or twenty years' time. Where in the world is the justice here? The victim not only loses his money, but pays more money besides for the dubious thrill of catching, convicting, and then supporting the criminal; and the criminal is still enslaved, but not to the good purpose of recompensing his victim. The idea of primacy for restitution to the victim has great precedent in law; indeed, it is an ancient principle of law which has been allowed to wither away as the State has aggrandized and monopolized the institutions of justice. In medieval Ireland, for example, a king was not the head of State but rather a crime-insurer; if someone committed a crime, the first thing that happened was that the king paid the ""insurance"" benefit to the victim, and then proceeded to force the criminal to pay the king in turn (restitution to the victim's insurance company being completely derived from the idea of restitution to the victim). In many parts of colonial America, which were too poor to afford the dubious luxury of prisons, the thief was indentured out by the courts to his victim, there to be forced to work for his victim until his ""debt"" was paid. This does not necessarily mean that prisons would disappear in the libertarian society, but they would undoubtedly change drastically, since their major goal would be to force the criminals to provide restitution to their victims.4",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493905109 124051020,124086085,2017-05-04 13:50:07,Bump,,Anonymous,94034938934.png,6zL/R0XkLE9M0K+E9UTkSg==,US,,1493905807 124051020,124087034,2017-05-04 13:58:55,"land property can only exist through the state, prepared to use its power to protect these property rights. Reason: You can't call something your property in a meaningful way without others agreeing to respect it. The state as the body of people around you guarantees you that respect of your property claim, as long as you aquired it in a way the state as a representative of the people around you deemed rightful. Now what I would propose, honoring the ideas of Paine, because land is a limited resource, and claiming rightful ownership on almost all lands also excludes others from excercising their right to cultivate their own land to gain ownership, the state has to tax property and this should pay the cost for the work the state has to put into upholding the law to protect your property rights, but also pay off children for their loss of natural chance to claim land through work. This is only fair because opportunity has value and those that came later do not have said opportunity anymore. Secondly, land ownership should be temporary - you gain the property rights for let's say 10 years when you cultivate land, but after those 10 years, you have to claim it again through your work (or continous work in those 10 years). This naturally limits the amount of land a single person can own and creates opportunities for others to do what you have done, ensuring an efficient use of the available land. The state as a representative of the people in an area should be able to revoke property rights when a property is not used for some time, in which it naturalises again.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493906335 124051020,124087557,2017-05-04 14:03:49,">>124082833 I do understand anarch-capitalism, and in a place where there are no laws, there are no rights. So what happens when I take 50 people through force to be slaves? Would you try to stop me? >>124083381 I'm not referring to prisoners of any kind. I'm referring to any ordinary people that I would be free to take under my control and own. People are property too.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493906629 124051020,124087559,2017-05-04 14:03:50,">>124087034 >but after those 10 years, you have to claim it again through your work This and the George guy are basically statism-lite.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493906630 124051020,124087655,2017-05-04 14:04:54,">>124087557 Anarcho Capitalism is not lawlessness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493906694 124051020,124087827,2017-05-04 14:06:34,">>124087557 In that case I take what I said and tell you you know nothing of anarcho capitalism. You should read The Ethics of Liberty by Rothbard if you're not trolling and would like to know more about ancap legal system.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493906794 124051020,124088204,2017-05-04 14:09:49,">>124087559 never said i was a lolbertarian or anarcho-idiotist. I just dont believe that a little work can create unlimited value, such as endless ownership of land.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493906989 124051020,124088311,2017-05-04 14:10:42,">>124087557 There are no rights in under any circumstance unless people agree that those rights exist anyway. Property rights are the most conducive to least social conflict. And they are intuitive.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493907042 124051020,124088821,2017-05-04 14:15:35,,,Anonymous,eJwFwdsNhCAQAMBeKIB9iItrNwQJmqgQ2Pu6XO8383WfcbvdnWZ97gDHNXMbh5_WRqrF19bqXVK_ps_tgWSW8vmU1yawSEBljLyIkrIKsKIEWVE3ooAYMQKFTWhhJFkp-P5W9_sDvUQiZg.XEr2h2SvPEKreG31TaukLvp1ICk.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,BR,,1493907335 124051020,124088838,2017-05-04 14:15:43,">>124087557 > in a place where there are no laws ...What? An - Without, or the absence of. Archon - Ruler, Master, Owner. Anarcho etymolgically, and literally means ""the absence of an owner."" >See pic related. You're still bound by the natural moral laws of the creator, and on top this, you're bound by the contractual conditions in which township you've decided to reside. See >>124052988",,Anonymous,natural law.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,US,,1493907343 124051020,124090958,2017-05-04 14:32:58,">>124087655 >>124088838 A place that has no governing body has no laws. A contract is meaningless if there's no-one but you to enforce it. Agreements between people, group customs and standards, sure. ""Moral laws"" are a bit more far-fetched. BUT. Ok let's say a society has decided that slavery is a bad thing. And then a small group comes in who take a few slaves. Does the society fight this group? Would all or most or any of them even want to be involved? And if we're talking about NAP then the society would be violating the group by using aggression to take their property.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493908378 124051020,124091152,2017-05-04 14:34:28,">>124090958 >A place that has no governing body has no laws. A contract is meaningless if there's no-one but you to enforce it. But anon anacapistan does have a governing body except that it isn't a state.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493908468 124051020,124091230,2017-05-04 14:35:07,">>124082288 >Brazil has the biggest ancap population if not any libertarian traditions. Wtf I love Brazil now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493908507 124051020,124091761,2017-05-04 14:39:42,"Can someone ITT give me a straight forward memeless reason why we don't need taxes? Do you just want to privatize everything?",,Anonymous,14917023_1845593422382940_5388874278682288876_o.png,vh8tKEIUXkzrvzmy9QRgxQ==,US,,1493908782 124051020,124091966,2017-05-04 14:40:53,">>124079294 Wrong. Private production always have surplus. It can be used to invest qbd earn more surplus, or to enjoy some time with a cool thing you like. It can also be used to support the church voluntarily. Individualism means only the individual can decide want they want to do with their lives, not that they will seek profit in every second.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493908853 124051020,124092190,2017-05-04 14:42:45,">>124054552 retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493908965 124051020,124092862,2017-05-04 14:48:16,">>124091761 It's not that we don't need taxes, it's that acquisiton of taxes rest on coercion. It's theft, by definition. Even if the state only maintains public utilities it will always have an incentive to collect more taxes and get bigger. Mechanisms like constitutions or seperation of powers do not prevent this because it leaves the performative functions of check and balances to the state itself! Besides, the most productive allocation of resources is in the free market system. Taxation messes with the pricing system by leaving the choice where to invest at the hands of proclaimed experts. In the scenario where the state is so minimal we don't even notice it's presence then there is no further incentive to keep it going, anyway.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493909296 124051020,124093424,2017-05-04 14:52:33,">>124091152 Please expand on this. The way I see it, anarchism is a response to oppression/fascism/authority. Why then would I want NOT to abolish that power, but simply redistribute it to other people?",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493909553 124051020,124093840,2017-05-04 14:56:03,">>124091761 We don't need taxes because states are territorial monopolists of decision making and legislation, and as such have in their own interests taxing the populace as much as they can. All services that the state provides to us today could be provided cheaply and better by private companies, and many problems that we have today are due to states and the taxes they collect.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493909763 124051020,124094238,2017-05-04 14:59:23,">>124091761 Can't speak for other libertarians, but I believe although taxation is theft, it is the only mean to sustain a police force/judges. what can be argued than is that sales taxes provides a entrance barrier in sectors, disincentivizing new competition. Labor taxes would reduce wages and restrain mobility, and income taxes would make the country less attractive to investment. We are left than with land taxes and import tariffs as viable alternatives.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493909963 124051020,124094468,2017-05-04 15:01:22,">>124053142 >falling for the ""muh spics n niggers takin over DDD:"" meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493910082 124051020,124094840,2017-05-04 15:04:04,>cant libertypost without being associated with ancaps/feudalists,,Anonymous,1442446020780.png,WZU8pLIvy8SyakBVvpv6mQ==,US,,1493910244 124051020,124094970,2017-05-04 15:05:00,">>124083550 >I'm a Turkish citizen but I'm not a Turk. Are you Hans-Hermann Hoppe?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493910300 124051020,124095056,2017-05-04 15:05:48,">>124094970 kek he does live here, doesn't he?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493910348 124051020,124095136,2017-05-04 15:06:30,">>124093424 As my Brazilian colleague said above, the State rests on the notion that a privileged group of people gets to unilaterally expropriated your property by taxing it, on the premise that it will hand out ""services"" at a later date, even if you didn't want them in the first place. Anarcho-capitalism is a reaction against state power, not authority as a concept itself. Power derives from someone's ability to forcefully subjugate one person to another person's whims. This is what the state does. Authority, on the other hand, is recognizing someone as superior, just, virtuous, etc. and therefore allowing that person to influence you and your actions. Private insurance companies, since they would be privately funded, rest on authority and the recognition that the transaction of money from the customers to the company is voluntary and therefore just. States, by virtue of obtaining their funding through compulsory wealth redistribution schemes and taxation, derive their power over us in an illegitimate manner. The State has power, but not authority over us. Ancaps want to return to a social order where organic and voluntary organizations and social institutions, such as churches, clubs and families, rule and act as moral guidelines and uphold standards of conduct, with justice bring administered by arbitrators and a ""natural elite"" (different from the artificial elite the state creates). And this is why states encroach on the family, on the church, on our private lifes: in order to pull us away from these organic institutions and render us defenseless in their atomization of the individual, as to better tax and expropriate us.",,Anonymous,1473113246858.jpg,op35mgX+umOfdH8k2ibzZg==,PT,,1493910390 124051020,124095289,2017-05-04 15:07:41,">>124094840 how is ancap anything like feudalism? I've never understood this connection people make. If it's because other people rule the land you work on by force -- isn't that already presently the case?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493910461 124051020,124095358,2017-05-04 15:08:11,">>124094840 Can't blame us if minarchists don't get the love they deserve. We put minarchists and Kuehnelt-Leddihn, a Monarchist, on the OP but there are more ancaps than minarchists.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493910491 124051020,124095447,2017-05-04 15:08:58,">>124095056 yes, his wife owns the hotel where they have the PFS meetings",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493910538 124051020,124096800,2017-05-04 15:19:38,">>124095136 See this is the big thing for me. My main criticism isn't the standard ""but dude that's chaos"" ""but dude roads"", rather this concept of 'justice' being redistributed. I am all for a society with a single powerful culture that keeps order through cultural norms rather than state enforced laws. The problem is that this society needs to be highly militaristic and large enough in number to rival other nations. Without these we cannot protect the system and any private army we hire would enslave us first chance they get. I hold the belief that tax can indeed be abolished, but in order to actually preserve this society, to guard its people, to defend its borders an army must remain.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493911178 124051020,124097349,2017-05-04 15:23:41,">>124096800 >The problem is that this society needs to be highly militaristic and large enough in number to rival other nations. One rifle per adult. Don't need more than that. And more importantly, >any private army we hire would enslave us first chance they get. Do you realize (I'm sure you do) the degree to which State armies have enslaved and murdered whole populations throughout history? The ""let's at least keep a State army"" position isn't really all that good when you consider that.",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1493911421 124051020,124098155,2017-05-04 15:29:22,">>124095289 >isn't that already presently the case Yes, but our rulers are public rulers, not private ones. We have elected officials and a constitution that binds the state to protect the people from itself In feudalism, people owned the land and thus technically owned the people on it. The serfs couldn't empower themselves against the ruling class to get wealth and property of their own, and were forced to live under the boot of those wealthier than them. The same would happen in Ancapistan. Without a proper state to protect and govern the people, the landlords would become the state, it is only the natural order of things. Not everyone gives a shit about ""muh NAP"", especially when the rich will have nothing stopping them from abusing their power. The current system of government isn't perfect but it usually works fine. Humans will always go back to having a state, simply because of how powerful of a construct it is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493911762 124051020,124098956,2017-05-04 15:35:24,">>124097349 >THE STATE DOES BAD THINGS TOO!!! Yeah and wanna know how they do that? Force. With a (free) state, we at least have a voice in what they do. But with a private military, with nothing other than their word binding their honesty, we have no real recourse other than drawing arms (assuming we don't get instafucked) to repel their force",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493912124 124051020,124099131,2017-05-04 15:36:39,">>124096800 >The problem is that this society needs to be highly militaristic and large enough in number to rival other nations. Why highly militaristic? Without state enforced military private insurers and militias would take on the role, since the demand for some kind of protection will always exist as long as criminals exist. >Without these we cannot protect the system and any private army we hire would enslave us first chance they get. How would they enslave us if we are the ones voluntarily funding it in the first place and multiple competitors exist? And how would that happen given that there would be massive indemnification payments to be made to the people whose property was expropriated, by competing insurance agencies? This has been addressed by Hoppe and others already. See pic related for example, it summarizes quite well this train of thought. And the book itself is on the Hoppe reading list.",,Anonymous,1487096884387.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1493912199 124051020,124099764,2017-05-04 15:41:17,">>124098956 You should also see image >>124099131 Freely financed insurance and defensive agencies that required people to give up arms and render themselves completely defenseless in order to be protected from uncertain and future threats wouldn't go far. It is in the nature of the State to take away the guns, since its monopoly status removes competition for ""subjects"" and the presence of weapons and means of defense in the citizenry makes state growth and encroachment more difficult.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493912477 124051020,124099898,2017-05-04 15:42:19,">>124098956 >with nothing other than their word binding their honesty I think you should take a second to consider that the laws of economics apply to private armies just as much as to bakeries.",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1493912539 124051020,124100941,2017-05-04 15:50:31,">>124098956 Voice of reason >>124099131 >>124099764 >>124099898 >Insurance, Insurance, Insurance One; People who wouldn't pay tax likely wouldn't pay insurance, two; a private company retaliating against a nation state through war is ludicrous, three; why work for the money when you can just take the money by force?",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493913031 124051020,124101329,2017-05-04 15:53:28,">>124098155 >We have elected officials and a constitution that binds the state to protect the people from itself But if officials are elected by the people, what prohibits special interest groups (an organized collection of certain people) from controlling those officials, thus controlling everyone else by force similarly to the control of feudal aristocrats? That's the problem with democracy. It seems that we're already in our own modern feudalism, if anything Ancapistan would be a counter to that as: >the rich will have nothing stopping them from abusing their power What is stopping the people from just going up and leaving to a different landlord that offers better, freer, living conditions on their own volition? If these wealthy landlords use an army to force them to stay, that's not Ancapistan anymore, and the neighbors would see that such blatant violations of the NAP to be resolved quickly to acquire the land for themselves. It's just not feudalism if the people can choose to go elsewhere and rebel from tyranny. The illusion of ""how powerful of a construct [the state] is"" is only as powerful by those who believe in it. If the people believed differently, it has no strength -- not when the serfs can always empower themselves to be the kings of their own lives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493913208 124051020,124101860,2017-05-04 15:57:41,">>124099898 Oh man i was waiting for this one; this can be solved with something we call ""extortion"" or ""taxation"". When you hold a gun up to peoples heads, it makes it really easy to get money from them >>124099764 >>124099131 See above. Business owners in Little Italy ""voluntarily fund"" their protectors too, what happens when people deny getting insurance? They could just assume their neighbors have war-insurance, and rely on herd-immunity. And how is an insurance company supposed to fight back against a state? The idea of rallying up militias in modern times to defend property is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, militias certainly work for fighting in revolutions and doing guerilla warfare and all that shit, but defending property would be pretty fucking hard in this day and age of drone strikes, tanks, bombs, etc. I don't think getting war-insurance would be all that worthwhile if it meant my house would be blown up anyways >captcha asked me to click pictures of roads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493913461 124051020,124102110,2017-05-04 15:59:36,">>124100941 >Economics=Insurance >>124101860 >Economics=Money No.",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1493913576 124051020,124102386,2017-05-04 16:01:59,">>124051020 I love new libertarians. old libertarians were such fags kill all commies and niggers",,Anonymous,libertarian smugy.jpg,z6ZKUHcNJmcc7vW4hzCpUg==,US,,1493913719 124051020,124102415,2017-05-04 16:02:13,">>124100941 Ludicrous is giving a specific entity, person or group a monopoly on force, taxation and ultimate decision making and expect them to not use this power for their advantage.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493913733 124051020,124102434,2017-05-04 16:02:28,">>124051020 Well, you have won another convert. I have just finished listening to the speech Hoppe gave at the mises seminar in Sydney. Not only was his analysis of the faults of democracy spot on but how he conceptualizes the solutions with an emphasis on contract and a single private law interesting. I still have my fears but it appears my fears of certain corporate power is really the power the state is providing to the corporation and would not be present in a true free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493913748 124051020,124102661,2017-05-04 16:04:34,">>124102386 I'm down, fuck the cucked libertarians.",,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1493913874 124051020,124102944,2017-05-04 16:06:41,">>124101860 I've already posted how insurers would react to neighboring territories aggressive behavior and Hoppe goes further and argues from the perspective of those who are being taxed to pay for the statist invasion. Why don't you try reading The Private Production of Defense and see if it answers your questions?",,Anonymous,1493839398072m.jpg,kMDxm3rM6JXP3AnF1nch0g==,PT,,1493914001 124051020,124103275,2017-05-04 16:09:26,">>124102944 >the fag who put his twitter handle below H.P. Lovecraft's quote holy fuck, what a fag",,Anonymous,michael scott.jpg,Fm9S8+M1gSZ/K4GmtfYA8w==,US,,1493914166 124051020,124103298,2017-05-04 16:09:34,">>124102434 Glad to have you on board my man. These threads are one of the best on /pol/ and Hoppean libertarianism is as red pilled as you can get. If you liked his Sydney lecture you should listen to ""State or private law society?"" that he delivered in Brazil. It is equally as brilliant. Well, all of his lectures are brilliant. And his books even more brilliant.",,Anonymous,1493839459643.jpg,07zvYI5ZFfeHD5wfzTGscw==,PT,,1493914174 124051020,124103316,2017-05-04 16:09:44,">>124054694 No welfare and they won't come here",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493914184 124051020,124103498,2017-05-04 16:11:09,">>124054754 Not exactly, targeted violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493914269 124051020,124103582,2017-05-04 16:11:49,">>124102386 >Watermarking a meme",,Anonymous,1489792088630.png,CsLXPScumwDinTCGEvYSqg==,SE,,1493914309 124051020,124103705,2017-05-04 16:12:41,">>124102944 >Russia sends 1000 tanks to ancuckistan >Insurance company with 100 men in suits and 12 lovely human resources ladies say ""pay denbts"" >???",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493914361 124051020,124103830,2017-05-04 16:13:39,">>124103275 Its a whole series of quote pics on tumblr",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1493914419 124051020,124103868,2017-05-04 16:13:58,">>124053066 im the agorist ball in the background smoking weed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493914438 124051020,124104091,2017-05-04 16:15:56,">>124102944 >>124103298 holy shit was Lovecraft redpilled? I thought he was just a bit eccentric because his cat was named niggerman and he wrote a poem about niggers, even a story about how a man kills himself after finding out he had nigger blood in his family (Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family), but damn he really hit it home",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493914556 124051020,124104107,2017-05-04 16:16:03,">>124102434 Nice.",,Anonymous,gg.jpg,NbUUPL2047Wrz/aUDJCerA==,UY,,1493914563 124051020,124104194,2017-05-04 16:16:52,">>124103298 I don't know why I never noticed it before but he was right that the two tiered law system along with temporary stewardship only creates an incentive to loot and pillage the state and its citizens. Watching the current healthcare situation in the US is a perfect example. It is one bad law after another, from both parties, that do nothing but enrich insurance companies. Something that should be cheap and plentiful, like car insurance, which has much less government intervention.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493914612 124051020,124104219,2017-05-04 16:17:01,">>124103830 still a faggot thing to do >>124103582 I know. Why are people such faggots?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493914621 124051020,124104248,2017-05-04 16:17:13,">>124103705 There wouldn't be a state apparatus to take over and tax people with. They'd have to go knock door to door like every shitty totalitarian regime does and drag people out and force them to pay the Kremlin. Those people would be armed and their insurers would not be some shitty LARPing half a dozen people. Again, see the image and read the book :^)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493914633 124051020,124104330,2017-05-04 16:17:51,">>124054552 Jesus was an An Cap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493914671 124051020,124104385,2017-05-04 16:18:19,">>124099131 >too dumb for Hoppe and stuck inbetween Richard Spencer and Moldbug",,Anonymous,1492977991653.jpg,8Kv0gpHNe36UtmUZ2TPMGg==,US,,1493914699 124051020,124104398,2017-05-04 16:18:25,">>124104091 Of course he was red pilled. His bust was even replaced at an awards ceremony because the triggered leftists finally got to him.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493914705 124051020,124104424,2017-05-04 16:18:37,">>124104330 He certainly wasn't an statist.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1493914717 124051020,124104485,2017-05-04 16:19:08,">>124054694 1) no welfare and so no incentive to migrate just to die on the street 2) Everything is private property, anyone who wants to exclude them from anywhere can without repercussions 3) Helicopter rides",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493914748 124051020,124104576,2017-05-04 16:19:56,Property rights are created by land patents issued by the state. Prove me wrong geofags.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493914796 124051020,124104830,2017-05-04 16:22:13,">>124104398 haha nice, that makes me love his work even more portugalbro",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493914933 124051020,124104918,2017-05-04 16:22:55,">>124104194 And the health insurance companies only do that because the state grants them monopoly rights with IP ""laws"" and hinders the market with a bunch of nonsense regulations and distortions that essentially make it impossible for people to buy or sell from whomever they want. Our standards of living would be much higher by now if it weren't for the government protecting businesses and artificially reducing the supply of products and services. You don't even have to be an AnCap to see this. >>124104385 Start with small bites. Articles on Lew Rockwell are very good, and Hoppe's writings are essentially excerpts from his books. Then move on to Democracy for the good stuff and read his other books. The final boss of Hoppe is The Economics and Ethics of Private Property.",,Anonymous,198384.jpg,0hru6R8FJOLiqyl2rUt11g==,PT,,1493914975 124051020,124105150,2017-05-04 16:24:53,">>124091761 PRIVATIZE CHARITY PRIVATIZE HEALTHCARE PRIVATIZE SCHOOLS PRIVATIZE SECURITY PRIVATIZE LAW ENFORCEMENT SELL THE STREETS",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,ES,,1493915093 124051020,124105175,2017-05-04 16:25:08,">>124104918 Is just mostly the race issue. Spencer's aryan imperium that revives the roman empire as some archeo-futuristic society sounds better than Hopper's an-cap societies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915108 124051020,124105299,2017-05-04 16:26:10,">>124104385 >Richard Spencer White nationalism is brain candy for fucking idiots. Racial collectivists like him are almost as bad (not quite tho) as communists themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915170 124051020,124105327,2017-05-04 16:26:26,if we maintain democracy can we still keep open borders? the people we let into america for example wont vote for libertarian values like our rights against the government (2nd amendment respecting judges). the mexican population votes for welfare and unions while cuban refugees vote in favor of capitalism and corporatism. should we be able to decide who is allowed in accordance to our values if we maintain a democracy?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915186 124051020,124105401,2017-05-04 16:26:58,"Ancaps are economically liberal, but how socially liberal are they? https://strawpoll.com/w8fabbe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915218 124051020,124105621,2017-05-04 16:28:44,">>124105401 you can't apply this paradigm to us. although many of us are socially conservative, we don't believe in state enforced morality like NatSocs or conservatives do. we would prefer everyone to adopt whatever values they want (as long as the NAP isn't violated).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915324 124051020,124105639,2017-05-04 16:28:53,">>124105299 it's a reactionary response to the end of white hegemony in america. other racial groups act collectivist, it's time white people started to as well",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915333 124051020,124105663,2017-05-04 16:29:06,Libtards BTFOI https://youtu.be/qXTmAkJKikI,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1493915346 124051020,124105696,2017-05-04 16:29:24,">>124105401 I would assume each person could pay a private security company to protect them under whichever law the preferred but the only crimes would be those with victims.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915364 124051020,124105792,2017-05-04 16:30:10,">>124105327 >if we maintain democracy we really shouldn't do that. and if we absolutely have to do it needs to be under a strict minarchist constitution that stops us from sliding into socialism, as all normal democracy eventually does.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915410 124051020,124105846,2017-05-04 16:30:37,">>124105621 Yes I know anarcho-capitalism does not comment on social matters, you dense fuck. I'm asking ancaps themselves what their social policies are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915437 124051020,124106298,2017-05-04 16:34:27,">>124105846 I believe monogamy and traditional monogamous marriage are against human nature and are one of the main sources of unhappiness and misery in Western society. Other than sexuality related stuff I'm a pretty conservative person in anything else.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1493915667 124051020,124106630,2017-05-04 16:37:23,Why don't we have a libertarian-themed fascist/pro-white street fighting guilt yet?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915843 124051020,124106661,2017-05-04 16:37:40,Why don't we have a libertarian-themed fascist/pro-white street fighting guild yet?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493915860 124051020,124107001,2017-05-04 16:40:31,">>124106661 I don't have the clip on hand but we do have physical removal squads working alongside trumpers and fascists to beatdown Antifa commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493916031 124051020,124107074,2017-05-04 16:41:01,">>124105846 I'm socially conservative and would rather live in a covenant that put family, high culture and tradition over ugliness, modernity and hedonism, even if it brought with it less material prosperity. The beauty with AnCap is that the result would be a heterogenous patchwork of internally homogeneous territories, each suited to a particular group's liking. And let's not forget that degenerate territories would eventually become so shitty no one would want to live in them and so the ideas implemented within them would he abandoned.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493916061 124051020,124107414,2017-05-04 16:43:46,">>124062074 We do have a big lib movement happening, but our law system is not private. People can choose a mediator and solve interpersonal matters privately through contract, but it's a new and small thing.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493916226 124051020,124107811,2017-05-04 16:46:37,">>124107074 >this post thank you based Portugalbro",,Anonymous,1490474080027.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1493916397 124051020,124108167,2017-05-04 16:49:25,">>124107811 Thanks Ameribro. May liberty, guns and right wing death squads come to you soon.",,Anonymous,1493164272091.png,25Ybt8IvM6qQZisqXJgqCQ==,PT,,1493916565 124051020,124108230,2017-05-04 16:49:50,">>124104248 Oh ffs. You ignore every rational point and instead claim a fallacy to authority. ""Read the book"". If you can't explain it, you don't understand it yourself. From the start, my argument has been that no private company, be it insurance or security, could go to war with an actual nation. And if ""economics"" are so important then nor would they want or dare to, and would just abandon the area at the first sign of an invasion. And just because there isn't a state or tax system doesn't mean there's no incentive for an invasion. There is still currency, land, resources; all of which would actually be EASIER to gain control of without a hostile state.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493916590 124051020,124108607,2017-05-04 16:52:38,">>124105846 Rather conservative, but kinda selective, I don't like any kind of gay faggotry, I'm pretty racist, but I don't mind if you wanna get shitfaced as long as you aren't excessive about it or doing really degenerate drugs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493916758 124051020,124108679,2017-05-04 16:53:09,">>124108230 You're forgetting the armed populace of the territory being invaded and the invading nation's populace wanting to cohabitate with them. And the international reactions against the invading state's violation of the liberties of peaceful people. And the inside resistance that would arise from it. I'm just saying for you to read the book because I'm sure nothing productive will come out of this discussion.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493916789 124051020,124109590,2017-05-04 17:00:30,">>124108230 This has been discussed many times before. The states have weapons to fight other states. There is a reason why anti-symmetric warfare is the shit now. Modern armies can't deal with it without bleeding money out the ass.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493917230 124051020,124109766,2017-05-04 17:01:59,"What's your view on volontary slavery? While I see that there is no problem with it in regard to natural law, I imagine that brokers, dealers, business lawyers, etc would think that it's such a complicated and sensitive issue that they wouldn't touch it with a nine foot pole. Not to speak about all the other moral viewpoints and preferences people have causing them to object to and slander those who deal with it we wouldsee.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493917319 124051020,124109856,2017-05-04 17:02:38,">>124105846 I don't mind what people do within their homes, but outside they must behave like civilized people, I don't want people in my covenant feeling uncomfortable by other people within the public areas, no gay parades, no drugs outside the home, no religious manifestations, nothing of the sort. I also don't want to assume any externality by what they do in their homes and I would certainly refuse to share healthcare insurance with a drug addict or other degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1493917358 124051020,124109929,2017-05-04 17:03:18,">>124109856 Expat?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493917398 124051020,124110387,2017-05-04 17:06:54,">>124109766 >voluntary slavery isn't that just called employment?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493917614 124051020,124110677,2017-05-04 17:09:05,">>124110387 I mean two people signing a contract that one person completely gives up any semblance of natural rights ot the other and essentially becomes their property. How would this work?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493917745 124051020,124110799,2017-05-04 17:10:05,Happy may the 4th and remember that the CIS did nothing wrong,,Anonymous,avatar-tr-01.gif,y8WPvQFpdjsRWIqumXKU8Q==,US,,1493917805 124051020,124111028,2017-05-04 17:11:49,">>124109766 If it's a contract signed without coercion then that's totally fine. Likely would never happen, unless in the context of indentured servitude. >>124110387 >isn't that just called employment? fuck off NEET",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493917909 124051020,124111032,2017-05-04 17:11:51,">>124051020 >libertarian >advocates forced removal of a particular group from political discourse Wew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493917911 124051020,124111093,2017-05-04 17:12:20,">>124108679 Yeah and you're forgetting things like NATO and United Nations exist. We have actual wars going on right now, and people far away from it don't give a fuck. I'd like to see how well a bunch of open carry tax haters would function next door to ISIS.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1493917940 124051020,124111175,2017-05-04 17:12:56,">>124111028 it was just a joke senpai, I'm actually a wagie myself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493917976 124051020,124111571,2017-05-04 17:15:54,">>124111093 Kurds don't have a state. They live like animals but they seem to be doing fine",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493918154 124051020,124111650,2017-05-04 17:16:31,">>124111032 >hey my name is Jack and I'm going to do everything in my power to kill you! >ok Jack, you're entitled to that opinion! haha!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493918191 124051020,124111788,2017-05-04 17:17:33,">>124111093 You mean the millions of armed Americans against a few thousand goatfuckers thousands of miles away?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493918253 124051020,124111893,2017-05-04 17:18:22,">>124111093 >'d like to see how well a bunch of open carry tax haters would function next door to ISIS We would BTFO those faggots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493918302 124051020,124112005,2017-05-04 17:19:09,">>124111032 What political discourse?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1493918349 124051020,124112078,2017-05-04 17:19:42,">>124105621 Degeneracy is untenable without the welfare state desu senpai.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493918382 124051020,124112302,2017-05-04 17:21:24,">>124111093 Also, you keep thinking that these defense companies would be unprofessional and sloppy ""traditional"" militia groups for some reason... They would be as advanced if not more advanced than current armies, first because they would be subject to indemnification payments to their customers if they failed to protect them and second because they would want to minimize collateral damage and incentive the capture and killing of terrorists. You'd have international bounties on terrorists and misfits, and companies would compete with each other in terms of who can protect the more people at the lowest costs.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493918484 124051020,124112432,2017-05-04 17:22:26,">>124112302 It would basically be run by insurance companies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493918546 124051020,124112593,2017-05-04 17:23:45,">implying privatized corporate military doesn't BTFO of sandniggers on a daily basis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpNpDM-enLw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493918625 124051020,124113579,2017-05-04 17:31:17,">>124053142 Without welfare Ancapistan would be like America was after WW2, a land of hope and prosperity for anyone that worked for it. Nowadays America is controlled by corporations for corporations, so it's no longer the same and the only place where working immigrant whites can find peace is smaller states like Montana and Wyoming. Cities are all blacked and filled with crime.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1493919077 124051020,124114179,2017-05-04 17:36:08,">>124112593 awwww yissss",,Anonymous,dreamjob.png,pn0W+ZtIHulSR+moDCKz/w==,ES,,1493919368 124051020,124114245,2017-05-04 17:36:43,">>124058314 You sound like someone who's about to violate my NAP. You'll end up in a 'copter pretty quick if you don't stop trying to tax people.",,Anonymous,remove-collectivists.png,CLe8g50CyHO5lt8gK4rDYQ==,DE,,1493919403 124051020,124114394,2017-05-04 17:37:58,">>124113579 Make that America pre World War 1, Estonia bro. No central bank, no right to vote for women, freedom of association between huwhites, traditional morals and commodity money.",,Anonymous,1493826133343.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,PT,,1493919478 124051020,124114638,2017-05-04 17:39:46,">>124078859 You are at the right spot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493919586 124051020,124115579,2017-05-04 17:47:07,">>124104385 >Richard Spencer >wants to resurrect the Roman Empire top LARP. What a faggot. Can't stand his stupid fucking face",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493920027 124051020,124115800,2017-05-04 17:48:53,">>124058790 He can't stop being based. I truly love this man",,Anonymous,1492780602107.png,NBN4oraH3WKG5FowMD/Iaw==,CA,,1493920133 124051020,124115802,2017-05-04 17:48:54,">>124114394 Well there wouldn't be anything to vote for.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493920134 124051020,124116074,2017-05-04 17:50:52,">>124115579 does anyone actually want to live in a nation where everyone has the same gay haircut?",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,AIQW3uqtSL5RHYBchVPkfA==,US,,1493920252 124051020,124116299,2017-05-04 17:52:33,">>124109766 Any kind of slavery is A-OK. If you disagree you're a commie libtard faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493920353 124051020,124116506,2017-05-04 17:54:00,">>124116074 Only larping faggots and cumsluts for authoritarianism do",,Anonymous,1490176689901.jpg,bViXk02yiJ6f8WCB3HvGQg==,CA,,1493920440 124051020,124117075,2017-05-04 17:57:50,">>124053142 Oh you gotta be shitting me. >>124053895 >>124054107 Yeah, he's really making a comeback. What was the whole deal with his Irregulars? Ditched his best supporters just so he could get some low-quality kike pussy? Good thing he's hanging out with bad goys now, in Auburn and Pikeville. >>124054247 It's almost like transportation companies have an incentive to use them and get funding via subscription. >>124054281 >Weld >libertarian Oh come the fuck ON. We need a better OP. >>124054639 >mup poo didda gibs me dat >>124054694 Are they an inconvenience to the native population? If so, physical removal to a barren area. If not, what's the problem? (spoiler: it's the former, I'm not some civicuck)",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493920670 124051020,124117366,2017-05-04 17:59:48,">>124055031 Me, my rifle, and a shit ton of barrels full of scrap metal and ANFO which I will proceed to throw on my enemies from my personal helicopter.",,Anonymous,allende btfo.jpg,3/2aRCaFCZasALSG/RlAxA==,SK,,1493920788 124051020,124118196,2017-05-04 18:05:37,">>124116299 Hoppe argues that we always own our own body because we of course can't give up the direct control of it. How does that rhyme with me selling myself as a product?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493921137 124051020,124118498,2017-05-04 18:07:49,">>124066605 >key opponent Freud really was onto something. Open borders presume the state ownership of land, and its effects are only amplified by the abolition of the right to disassociation.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493921269 124051020,124118778,2017-05-04 18:10:07,">>124117366 slovakia gets it.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1493921407 124051020,124118818,2017-05-04 18:10:25,">>124073979 Oh come on. You're allowed to own the machinery you operate, it's just more economically efficient to manipulate somebody else's (or the other way around), unless you're seriously being ripped off.",,Anonymous,rothbard exploitation.jpg,AiNOwdl2xEM1almb7MlI3A==,SK,,1493921425 124051020,124119089,2017-05-04 18:12:17,So what am I?,,Anonymous,I used to be a communist.png,7qIoOuhh5+0/sdcvWB2ZpQ==,US,,1493921537 124051020,124119629,2017-05-04 18:16:00,">>124119089 You need more helicopter lessons, try not to let that slip up",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493921760 124051020,124120014,2017-05-04 18:18:45,">>124119089 Me 6 months ago. I've seen gone down two squares. But this shitty test makes you answer like an edgy guy on the questions if you want to land on the far right.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493921925 124051020,124120078,2017-05-04 18:19:11,">>124119089 >file name what the fuck were you thinking?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493921951 124051020,124120193,2017-05-04 18:19:55,">>124091761 yeah",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493921995 124051020,124120749,2017-05-04 18:23:40,">>124118778 Ayy, I love my quote being posted here.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493922220 124051020,124120796,2017-05-04 18:24:00,">>124120014 this I hate how heartless I sound to tests as if they're trying to morally frame the proper answer to the test-taker it's bullshit. I care about people, I just also care about property rights",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493922240 124051020,124120821,2017-05-04 18:24:09,">>124081456 You're dumb. The most capitalist countries are not Western in culture. The heart of the West today is not ancap, it's moving further away from it with even centrist parties appealing to leftist demands.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493922249 124051020,124120929,2017-05-04 18:24:54,">>124120078 Honestly no clue.",,Anonymous,how i feel.jpg,kvc7cpWNwyLCDlmdTe2vag==,US,,1493922294 124051020,124121922,2017-05-04 18:32:08,">>124120821 have you been to america outside of the cities? they dont wave AnCap flags because we substitute them with the gadsden, confederate, and US flag. theres tons of crazy anarchist rednecks everywhere. >inb4 hurr american flag is statist The US flag represents fucking up dickish taxing tyrants to our kin.",,Anonymous,Flag.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,US,,1493922728 124051020,124121939,2017-05-04 18:32:14,"Hey guys do you think we should be shilling right wing lib candidates? like in state and federal positions, i doubt the meme magic of the free market won't make a difference",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493922734 124122831,124122831,2017-05-04 18:38:28,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1493923108 124122831,124123147,2017-05-04 18:40:51,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfDySqoz2DI,,Anonymous,1487070028227.jpg,HjVXH9vLzhrNNiOo28uejg==,US,,1493923251 124122831,124123328,2017-05-04 18:42:09,">>124122831 FIRST FOR LIFE, FREEDOM, AND LIBERTY Going to drop some Right-Libertarian YouTube channels. First up is obviously Stefan Molyneux, the famous Canadian AnCap who wants to know whether you support the use of violence against him. He's probably the best there is in terms of pure anarcho-capitalism as an ideology, economically and socially, even gaining more in the way of conservatism. He's got a lot of high-quality content, from rebuttals to various topics to even interviews and singing the American anthem after the election night. https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493923329 124122831,124123985,2017-05-04 18:46:48,">>124123328 Slovakia, my dude. You have shown you are a based representive of /lrg/ and are hereby made the Helicopter Death Squad Officer, and ambassador to /nsg/",,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1493923608 124122831,124124084,2017-05-04 18:47:34,"I grew out of libertarianism a while ago. Allowing capitalism does nothing to stop degeneracy",,Anonymous,1397514414523.jpg,zdeNDiGV0T68uVANHYn8Dw==,US,,1493923654 124122831,124124189,2017-05-04 18:48:24,">>124122831 Any thoughts on this (please watch the whole thing). >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ano0-SMTAU4",,Anonymous,hmm.jpg,ErAZ9S4ZFtbbzIC8JSSwGA==,GB,,1493923704 124122831,124124238,2017-05-04 18:48:46,">>124124084 don't be a fucking faggot. now get off my lawn.",,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1493923726 124122831,124124439,2017-05-04 18:50:10,"The most controversial right-libertarian would probably be Augustus Sol Invictus, a Libertarian Party member and former candidate for Marco Rubio's seat in the Senate. He's a pagan, he's revolutionary, and a damn good speaker. He predicts another great war coming to America, and unlike the other pussyfooters, he is ready. Did I mention that he's a white nationalist and has NatSoc sympathies? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsdPzJBJYQlsKigw_3XTqJw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdjl6hbKBjjL-GAhjbbPuXg",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493923810 124122831,124124769,2017-05-04 18:52:38,">>124124439 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdnCBCzUr60 pretty based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493923958 124122831,124125077,2017-05-04 18:54:50,">>124122831 >PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS lolbertardians are just AnComs with guns. So basically the John Brown Gun Club.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,xo6ygP055x6/d7cLT/ZufQ==,US,,1493924090 124122831,124125434,2017-05-04 18:57:33,">>124124238 I never said libertarianism is degenerate. I said it allows for degeneracy and corporations do enough on the own to make it prevalent",,Anonymous,1379027730166.png,VcAGO5KX0u4AWGZPgOGsAg==,US,,1493924253 124122831,124125439,2017-05-04 18:57:36,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493924256 124122831,124125705,2017-05-04 18:59:33,">>124123985 I am honored, sir. HAIL VICTORY! Anyway, I've already mentioned the Rough Roman, so here's his trusted friend, Christopher Cantwell. Although he's also indulged in degenerate behaviour (who hasn't?), he really seems to be back on the right path towards helicopter death squads, and has been active with Mike Enoch and other figures in the nationalist sphere. He's a white nationalist and an AnCap, and he's violently angry. https://www.youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 https://radicalagenda.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493924373 124122831,124126047,2017-05-04 19:02:15,">>124125434 The state forces people like you hire and server niggers and faggots against your will, in some cases they even have nigger quotas. this is the effect of socialism and egalitarianism which must be erradicated no matter the system we actually live in.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493924535 124122831,124126048,2017-05-04 19:02:14,">>124125077 Nah. More like the Minutemen.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493924534 124122831,124126117,2017-05-04 19:02:47,>>124125434,,Anonymous,lrg and nsg.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,SK,,1493924567 124122831,124126636,2017-05-04 19:06:53,">>124126047 >The state forces people like you hire and server niggers and faggots against your will, in some cases they even have nigger quotas. Even without the quotas small businesses will still hire them because they will work for less than whites. Also corporations still play into the SJWism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493924813 124122831,124126784,2017-05-04 19:08:01,"Having had a falling-out with Chris over his poor dating choices, the notorious National Capitalists - the 1st Irregulars - whom'st'd've I've only found out about today - also have a thing or two to say. They're like Chris, but minus the degeneracy. Sorry, Chris. http://1stirregulars.com/ Shit, should I add Dapperton? He's the guy who used to animate Anarchyball, but now that they doxxed him (during a drama situation with the ancoms, no less), he's probably going to be /ourguy/ soon enough.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493924881 124122831,124126804,2017-05-04 19:08:10,">>124126117 It'd be nice to see some Natsoc ancap unity but really capitalism is what makes degeneracy profitable",,Anonymous,1391310932020.png,Ojlqu3jHhFdLO/PCLvrnlA==,US,,1493924890 124122831,124126911,2017-05-04 19:08:58,">>124126636 Would you hire a faggot? Also, corporations exist at the mercy of the government, which is paid through their money. Really activates the almonds.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493924938 124122831,124127106,2017-05-04 19:10:34,">>124126804 Degeneracy is only profitable if your end goal is destruction of a social group or in this case a civilisation. That's a breach of the NAP, the helicopter will be here shortly. Read Hoppe a bit, or here's a more condensed version: http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493925034 124122831,124127143,2017-05-04 19:10:51,">>124126636 they only work for less because they need to be under the income limit so they can still get welfare. do you even live near nogs? corporations only play into sjwism because they are corrupted by the state to produce troktskite propaganda.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493925051 124122831,124127480,2017-05-04 19:13:25,">>124127106 >Degeneracy is only profitable if your end goal is destruction of a social group or in this case a civilisation. That's a breach of the NAP, the helicopter will be here shortly. thats real edgy. I've read Hoppe and I'm not impressed. You're small government isn't going to take down a large industry",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493925205 124122831,124127726,2017-05-04 19:15:09,">>124126911 >Would you hire a faggot? plenty do and would and sell to them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493925309 124122831,124128252,2017-05-04 19:18:54,">>124127143 >they only work for less because they need to be under the income limit so they can still get welfare. do you even live near nogs poor people will generally work for less than a middle class person regardless of welfare >corporations only play into sjwism because they are corrupted by the state to produce troktskite propaganda they play into it because it is profitable. this is basic capitalism not some conspiracy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493925534 124122831,124128286,2017-05-04 19:19:11,">>124127480 they rely on the state to prop them up, subsidize and so on. dont mistake these commie run decegeracy brodcasts as organic. as a NatSoc you should understand this goverment of ours pushes this crap. none of this degeneracy is natural. we just need to purge the communist fags.",,Anonymous,killcommies.png,YPcWUZo/yek+DuIEex1GcQ==,US,,1493925551 124122831,124128768,2017-05-04 19:22:50,">>124128286 >they rely on the state to prop them up, subsidize and so o going to need a citation on that. which companies get ""propped up"" etc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493925770 124122831,124128821,2017-05-04 19:23:12,">>124127480 Large industry falls when obstacles are not put in place to slow down its contenders. It's pretty basic. >>124127726 Would you? Would Christian bakeries?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493925792 124122831,124128973,2017-05-04 19:24:26,">>124128252 poor people obviously work for less thats why they're poor, thats a bad sentence. you clearly don't know niggers. they NEED their BMWs, $500 sneakers, and tons of coke and weed. without welfare they can sustain that lifestyle is the company that pays that much gonna seriously hire pic related?",,Anonymous,celebrity-mug-shots22.jpg,MSWwb5uleJf6olshCZgXPg==,US,,1493925866 124122831,124129130,2017-05-04 19:25:32,">>124128768 No empirical evidence at the moment, so just rationalisation. A larger company generates more wealth, dominates a larger part of the market, and thus can keep itself in a favourable position since it already meets all the regulations and controls put in place by the government. A family business can't keep up, and thus the corporations win.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493925932 124122831,124129790,2017-05-04 19:30:16,">>124128768 its literally the same jew conspiracy NatSoc is aware of, you already know this shit. you know these fuckers fund marxism the likes of soros and his kikes they don't just push international jewery they want control of the markets too which is the reason they push socialism. they want to centralize all the resources under their control.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493926216 124122831,124130382,2017-05-04 19:34:58,">>124128768 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_toYr_Hcdo&t=1s Here's an example of the garbage they peddle on us. listen to what this ""libertarian"" is saying. He's blantantly promoting multiculturalism while throwing a few libertarian guy names into it. This is not libertarianism, this is egalitarian horseshit. I bet when you were a ""libertarian"" you were one of these fags.that thought freedom is all about weed and sucking dicks.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1493926498 124122831,124130420,2017-05-04 19:35:16,">>124128821 >Large industry falls when obstacles are not put in place to slow down its contenders. It's pretty basic. so show me evidence of this happening to companies that are unhealthy to the population such as the porn industry and marijuana dispensaries >Would you? Would Christian bakeries? plenty would and plenty only care about increasing profits",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493926516 124122831,124130522,2017-05-04 19:36:06,">>124128973 >without welfare they can sustain that lifestyle is the company that pays that much gonna seriously hire pic related? they will just look like they do in the third world",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493926566 124122831,124130665,2017-05-04 19:37:09,">>124129130 >No empirical evidence at the moment, so just rationalisation. didn't think os",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493926629 124122831,124130769,2017-05-04 19:37:56,">>124130420 Oh, those require social pressure. There's a market for them that you need to criticise. Also, Christian bakeries have a good track record of not serving faggots.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493926676 124122831,124131267,2017-05-04 19:41:40,">>124130522 Companies don't hire deficient workers if there's a sufficient supply of decent ones. >>124130665 Way to avoid my entire point. The thing is, governments like regulation because it benefits their sponsors. Why else would the big business kikes push for regulations?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493926900 124122831,124131390,2017-05-04 19:42:40,">>124130769 >Oh, those require social pressure. There's a market for them that you need to criticise. and this social pressure will magically come about in ancapistan some how >Christian bakeries have a good track record of not serving faggots literally one bakery is you're argument against an extremely profitable cultural movement",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493926960 124122831,124131422,2017-05-04 19:42:54,">>124130522 >>124130420 You're missing the point. All this degenerate shit (only caring for profit, multiculturalism, moral relativism (((Free Migration)) doesn't come from libertarianism. It comes from COMMUNIST FAGS. thats why we shouldn't bitch at each other and instead defend our culture and crush these faggots together.",,Anonymous,1486686965826.png,g/yNYfh1jm4aI7ckxUtMsQ==,US,,1493926974 124122831,124131714,2017-05-04 19:45:05,">>124131267 >Companies don't hire deficient workers if there's a sufficient supply of decent ones. this is incorrect. depending on the demographics of the area the company will hire the cheapest labor >Way to avoid my entire point. you're making a point with zero evidence to back it up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493927105 124122831,124131831,2017-05-04 19:46:01,">>124131422 libertarianism does nothing to prevent it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493927161 124122831,124131894,2017-05-04 19:46:27,">>124131831 and obviously natsoc doesn't either because here were are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493927187 124122831,124131906,2017-05-04 19:46:31,">>124131390 >social pressure It will come because we're going to remove those who aren't conservative enough. >profitable sodomy Again, only for those whose agenda is destruction. If there was no threat of backlash from the government OR the queer ""anarchists"" who smash shit whenever somebody isn't a fan of AIDS and degeneracy, more business owners would speak up. The AnCap solution to this is the right to disassociation and the right to shoot anti-social elements on sight.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493927191 124122831,124132068,2017-05-04 19:47:49,">>124131894 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493927269 124122831,124132118,2017-05-04 19:48:13,">>124131714 >cheapest labor Niggers literally don't do anything all day, you think they're going to hold down a job? When you add bias into this, it's fair to say that they'll segregate quickly. >rational process is not relevant You have a right not to think.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493927293 124122831,124132186,2017-05-04 19:48:49,">>124131906 >It will come because we're going to remove those who aren't conservative enough. edgy m8 >Again, only for those whose agenda is destruction. If there was no threat of backlash from the government OR the queer ""anarchists"" who smash shit whenever somebody isn't a fan of AIDS and degeneracy, more business owners would speak up. The AnCap solution to this is the right to disassociation and the right to shoot anti-social elements on sight. lol your arugment is ""shoot everyone who disagrees""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493927329 124122831,124132201,2017-05-04 19:48:56,">>124132068 Don't be such a stubborn faggot, wave your Nazi flag and fight for the red white and blue with me.",,Anonymous,JOINorDIE.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,US,,1493927336 124122831,124132303,2017-05-04 19:49:49,">>124132068 That's our catchphrase. NatSoc has had ZERO impact over the last 50 years, you're going to have to step up. Libertarians have at least been deemed worthy enough of private infiltration, and we don't lose battles to fucking antifa, who pushed you out of cities in the 90s.",,Anonymous,kyle chapman doom.jpg,P8yzimmuXUBX6rdyKmgdLw==,SK,,1493927389 124122831,124132343,2017-05-04 19:50:07,">>124132201 >wave your Nazi flag yes >fight for the red white and blue with me. Capitalism is just as subversive as Marxism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493927407 124122831,124132408,2017-05-04 19:50:36,">>124132201 This. Disunity is what AntiFa praises about us, because it benefits their cause.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493927436 124122831,124132556,2017-05-04 19:51:41,">>124132343 >an actually good system >subversive Oy gevalt, those pesky goyim acting out of their own interest sure are subverting our vibrant vision! SHUT IT DOWN!",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493927501 124122831,124132789,2017-05-04 19:53:34,">>124132343 Then go fuck yourself and stay at home and jerk off with your fashy haircut buddies, you obviously arent commited to our people if you refuse allies that also want to promote our culture and values.",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,AIQW3uqtSL5RHYBchVPkfA==,US,,1493927614 124122831,124132845,2017-05-04 19:53:57,">>124132556 capitalism is the birth place of every form of degeneracy in the last 50 years",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493927637 124122831,124133001,2017-05-04 19:55:08,">>124132789 Don't counter-signal the haircut. Don't do it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493927708 124122831,124133142,2017-05-04 19:56:12,">>124132845 Nah, that'd be Boomer bleeding heart syndrome. It's almost like that's when the Marxist indoctrination began showing itself.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1493927772 124122831,124133440,2017-05-04 19:58:36,I want a job so I can be a capitalist.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493927916 124122831,124134474,2017-05-04 20:06:58,">>124133440 Yeah I guess so, we don't do handouts so you'll have to get your own helicopter tho.",,Anonymous,1488910637310.jpg,j8LR12YdKTWMEnBNchIDYw==,US,,1493928418 124122831,124134578,2017-05-04 20:07:46,">>124132845 Degeneracy cannot survive on its own in the capitalist environment, because nobody wants to pay for it. >MTV's ratings fall due to SJW content >Amy Schumer's vagina show fails miserably >Starbucks implodes after hiring 6 gorillion refugees Remember that degeneracy is a parasitic fringe minority that cannot survive without a socialist government's teat. No sane person will voluntarily accept their vampiric bite.",,Anonymous,Fuck socialists.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1493928466 124122831,124134722,2017-05-04 20:08:48,">>124132845 kek, I've seen it where it doesn't looks so bad, but I know all these guys really want to look like the guy who punched moldylocks so I go for the feels.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493928528 124122831,124135601,2017-05-04 20:16:03,">>124134578 >Degeneracy cannot survive on its own in the capitalist environment, because nobody wants to pay for it. plenty of it is profitable",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493928963 124122831,124135822,2017-05-04 20:17:59,">>124135601 in an marxist indoctrinated society, yes. so get rid of the marxists.",,Anonymous,pol_royal_crest.png,8hZ9oyvvSmLAMXfXzC3JXQ==,US,,1493929079 124122831,124136023,2017-05-04 20:19:37,">>124126117 Saved",,Anonymous,no step.jpg,C3yffL6nH+UJSX8Ly9JZzw==,BR,,1493929177 124122831,124136225,2017-05-04 20:21:11,Succession is only hope for Brazil,,Anonymous,Bandeira_SP_ancap.jpg,wnozO0ryb+JGZgRylAO/pw==,BR,,1493929271 124122831,124136341,2017-05-04 20:22:04,Bumping for private security squads BTFOing communists and degenerates,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493929324 124122831,124138379,2017-05-04 20:38:57,"As a NatSoc, I am actually happy with this pseudoalliance I see with the Libertarians. While I don't agree with the methods and certainly don't agree with some of the values; I can respect the fact that we both want to see the Marxist parasite dealt with swiftly My main differences are in the fact that Libertarianism leans extremely hard on the side of personal and individual liberty; while National Socialism leans to the side of familial and national liberty The average normie isn't just going to abide by Libertarian ideals, morals, and values just because; NatSoc is like that stern father that rules his family rough but righteously However, I do certainly feel that in some way, Libertarianism and NatSoc are opposite sides of the same coin, and is often why; when I was previously a libertarianism, I would see rapid shifts in political ideology based on context, like pic related. I guess it would only be natural seeing as following the law of civilization progress; Hard Times (Marxism) gives way to Strong Men (NatSoc) which then leads to Good Times (Libertarianism) Libertarianism as a concept can really only exist in a high trust, moral, and stable society, which in many times leaves me wondering if it wasn't the end goal of National Socialism the entire time",,Anonymous,IMG_7306.jpg,M2OiyCJUq57818VMp9oBsA==,US,,1493930337 124122831,124140180,2017-05-04 20:54:33,">>124138379 I appreciate the kind words, but don't doubt we have family values. There are some who use libertarianism as an excuse to live selfishly but plenty of us understand that freedom is intertwined with morality.",,Anonymous,quote_freedom_does_not_mean_that_right_to_do_whatever_we_please_but_rather_to_do_as_we_ought_fulton_j_sheen_94_3_0312.jpg,OZFWkqtBzu2EcOgXEPfaKw==,US,,1493931273 124122831,124140482,2017-05-04 20:56:58,">>124138379 >Average normie isn't just going to abide by libertarian ideas, NatSoc enforces morals sternly That's all well and good. I don't think I would want to live in a society where the populace got its morals and values from iron-fist teaching rather than from learning naturally. It's the same problem I have with marxism, but I can appreciate the morals and values that NatSoc has to offer, whereas with marxism the morality is frankly abominable. >Libertarianism as the end goal of National Socialism You raise an interesting point here; certainly the idea of an anarcho-capitalist (or minarchist, private-law, etc.) hinges on its population having a high mutual trust and being incredibly moral and stable. National Socialism introduces all of these things by force, but I do not think that it properly educates the population to understand the morality, stability, and trust that it enforces. That's the key element that divides us; a citizen of ancapistan would understand why all the rules of his/her chosen covenant are in place, so the rules would not require a state to enforce them and everyone would follow them on a mutual agreement. A citizen of a national socialist country would have all the same rules, but it would not be because he/she read Hoppe and agreed with fellow citizens to enforce their own laws for their own good, it would be because a highly centralized, militaristic state enforced them. NatSoc doesn't have a mechanism that would slowly phase out the state nor educate its people to become autonomous like ancaps.",,Anonymous,libfash.jpg,1YdMrj8/omKItN/SUl4miQ==,US,,1493931418 124122831,124140911,2017-05-04 21:00:45,"You guys are cool Let's be bros At least until we figure out what to do with all these God damn commies",,Anonymous,IMG_7452.jpg,TIEMHgCKbSsq2KQWHfclDw==,US,,1493931645 124122831,124141732,2017-05-04 21:07:31,">>124140911 That's what I'm talking about, sort these fucking commies out and debate later.",,Anonymous,Pol (2).png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1493932051 124122831,124142602,2017-05-04 21:14:28,As an AnCap why tf do we get all buddy buddy with NatSocs. Those fascist fag trains are literally everything I stand against. Yeah we both hate commies but for different reasons.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493932468 124122831,124143115,2017-05-04 21:18:13,">>124142602 NatSoc is almost purely a response to leftism, egalitarianism, and anti moral ideologies. Authoritarian they might be, but they have the very Dave enemies as us and a least we can talk to them frankly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493932693 124122831,124143200,2017-05-04 21:18:51,">>124143115 >Dave Same.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493932731 124122831,124143480,2017-05-04 21:21:06,">>124142602 >>124143115 >>124143200 >buddy buddy",,Anonymous,2.jpg,YDS5DzaBhUHTrdicJ0RwwQ==,BR,,1493932866 124122831,124143691,2017-05-04 21:22:44,">>124143480 You need Jesus.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493932964 124122831,124143826,2017-05-04 21:23:56,">>124142602 They're fucking fags but useful jackboots in the fight against communism We'll McGas them later",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493933036 124122831,124144126,2017-05-04 21:26:39,">>124122831 I was Libertarian but then i realized.For truly freedom society i need remove all leftists by killing comunists and natsoc but then suddenly i will become degenerate.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1493933199 124122831,124144375,2017-05-04 21:28:49,">>124144126 What? Do you even do English? We should totally remove commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493933329 124122831,124144445,2017-05-04 21:29:19,">>124140911 you realize Ancaps don't hate jews right? some of our greatest heros are jews you retarded Nazis",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493933359 124122831,124144810,2017-05-04 21:32:32,"ID 2susf562 here (dunno what happened with my IP) Coming back for this one >>124140482 >That's all well and good. I don't think I would want to live in a society where the populace got its morals and values from iron-fist teaching rather than from learning naturally >National Socialism introduces all of these things by force, but I do not think that it properly educates the population to understand the morality, stability, and trust that it enforces This is why I can see the merits of Libertarianism and could possibly be one of the reasons why I started and grew from there. However, I still do not think Libertarians are prudent enough to stop the subversive elements from taking route again once they have been dealt with, at least not with our current society and understanding. This is why I ultimately think NatSoc is a slightly superior ideology and has room to grow in its progress of civilian development; and if not a sustainable political system, at least the first major stepping stone to the Libertarian utopia",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493933552 124122831,124144863,2017-05-04 21:32:57,">>124144445 I hate Jews. I live around niggers, Jews and gooks, and I hate them all. My problem is that NatSoc are often gook-lovers. Gooks are fucking gross.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493933577 124122831,124144931,2017-05-04 21:33:29,">>124144375 Im sorry. Of course I can write English, but I'm too drunk because of my developing degeneration.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1493933609 124122831,124145028,2017-05-04 21:34:14,">>124144445 I forgot to add that Rothbard is an honorary white.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1493933654 124122831,124145716,2017-05-04 21:39:42,">>124143691 I need a boifriendo. But you're right, anon. Many men have recently bruised my heart.",,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,niWVVIABbz23KYIsl32WUA==,BR,,1493933982 124122831,124145814,2017-05-04 21:40:37,">>124144445 I am of Eastern European decent and I have to say I know and have experienced first had that most Jews are adherents of Communism and that many Russian Commies back in the 60s were Jewish. My father and grandparents were Christians in the time of Communist rule over Eastern Europe Frankly, being so well aquanted with the community (seeing as Eastern Europeans are highly nationalistic and very close-knit, even in the US) I do not know of any Russian Communist I've personally met that was not Jewish, and I've met many. I can't stand them; they are arrogant scum and cry out as they strike you. This is what sparked my hatred for (((them)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493934037 124122831,124145940,2017-05-04 21:41:40,">>124144445 >Rothbard >von Mises >Friedman These men are jewish and have contributed INVALUABLY to our movement. Stop falling for memes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493934100 124122831,124146083,2017-05-04 21:42:44,">>124145028 >>124145940 see >>124145940",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493934164 124122831,124146306,2017-05-04 21:44:42,">>124145940 It's not memes, some of us have experienced bad jewery first hand, Rothbard is still my #1 nigga, I still see good individuals when are there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493934282 124122831,124146389,2017-05-04 21:45:26,">>124145814 generalizations like the ones you're making are fucking retarded. I hope you know that. The based jews I listed are the exact opposite of the collectivists you mentioned.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493934326 124122831,124146437,2017-05-04 21:45:51,">>124144810 If we're talking about the right-wing libertarians whose ideology these generals are for, then no, we do have the prudence to fight subversive elements. Certainly you're familiar with the concept of Physical Removal, as espoused by Hans Hermann Hoppe. ""A society in which the right to exclusion is fully restored to owners of private property would be profoundly unegalitarian, intolerant, and discriminatory. There would be little or not ""tolerance"" and ""open-mindedness"" so dear to left-libertarians. Instead, one would be on the right path toward restoring the freedom of association and exclusion implied in the institution of private property, if only towns and villages could and would do what they did as a matter of course until well into the nineteenth century in Europe and the United States. There would be signs regarding entrance requirements to the town, and, once in town, requirements for entering specific pieces of property (for example, no beggars, bums, or homeless, but also no homosexuals, drug users, Jews, Moslems, Germans or Zulus), and those who did not meet these entrance requirements would be kicked out as trespassers. Almost instantly, cultural and moral normalcy would reassert itself."" Democracy: the God that Failed (p. 211) So, going along with the idea that all citizens of a libertarian society would understand the rules in place, degeneracy would not be a threat. Instead of relying on the gestapo or whoever to move all the jews, gypsies, gays, and Jehovah's Witnesses into concentration camps, any citizen would be within their rights to defend the local social order by physically removing (or gassing/shooting, if necessary) any invading sources of degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493934351 124122831,124146699,2017-05-04 21:47:47,">>124146389 How many bad niggers do I have to meet before I can say I don't like them? At a certain point you notice patterns. It doesn't mean there aren't exceptions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493934467 124122831,124146809,2017-05-04 21:48:47,">>124146389 Exceptions to the rule do not prove the rule false",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493934527 124122831,124147037,2017-05-04 21:50:21,">>124143826 Not if we gas you first ;)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493934621 124122831,124147449,2017-05-04 21:53:48,">>124146437 This is why I still view Libertarians in such high regard and why I think at least mutual respect can be found between our two camps: there is a common interest to see our societies as highly intelligent, moral, and trustworthy. Our methods may be different, but we do share common beliefs, and I think there is much to gain with a symbiotic relationship between our two ideologies; at least for the short term anyway",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493934828 124122831,124147603,2017-05-04 21:55:08,">>124122831 What do Ancaps really want? I think Ancapistan could work if it was built from zero, but I think trying to implement anarcho capitalism on a already established nation would be impossible. Being a Minarchist myself I think Minarchism couldn't be implemented on an already established nation either. I'm bored about all the theory and hypothetical thinking, should we just root for candidates that are in favor of cutting public spending and increasing individual freedom?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1493934908 124122831,124147845,2017-05-04 21:57:11,gibsmedat free market,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493935031 124122831,124147938,2017-05-04 21:58:02,">>124147603 Of course we should support people closer to our values",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493935082 124122831,124148045,2017-05-04 21:58:51,">>124138379 >high trust, moral, and stable society If NatSoc is the path to get here in low trust, immoral, and unstable societies, then I'll grab my helicopter.",,Anonymous,ethicsisarelationship.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,US,,1493935131 124122831,124148275,2017-05-04 22:00:51,">>124147449 I'd pick a nationalist government over a leftist government that's for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493935251 124122831,124148382,2017-05-04 22:01:43,">>124147449 The difference is philosophical and that's where NatSocs fail miserably. Rights either exist or do not, and if they do not you have none. Natsoc implicitly denies the rights of humans In the name of a greater good, much like Marxism. You can only defend this position by saying that morality and rights are purely human constructs, and therefore subjective. Now you're a Marxist again. If you take people's rights, you are immoral, and that's what you people don't seem to understand. Go read Bastiat's The Law. So no, we aren't on your side. You choose the easier path both mentally and physically. Easier to form a collective gang and use violence to enforce peace than the long philosophical struggle to teach people about morality, rights, and honor. Or maybe we're all fucking morons because 80% of the human population. Can't grasp how a glass of water sweats, so to expect them to grasp politics is a joke. So maybe natsoc is right. People are too dumb to be trusted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493935303 124122831,124148902,2017-05-04 22:06:16,,,Anonymous,IMG_2465.png,Zj01mtweZTl2UhiKqAPevQ==,US,,1493935576 124122831,124149017,2017-05-04 22:07:25,">>124147938 Of course, but do we reduce everything to that? What's the endgoal? How do we get there?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1493935645 124122831,124149274,2017-05-04 22:09:41,">>124148382 Great post",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493935781 124122831,124149281,2017-05-04 22:09:46,">>124148382 >Or maybe we're all fucking morons because 80% of the human population. Can't grasp how a glass of water sweats, so to expect them to grasp politics is a joke. So maybe natsoc is right. People are too dumb to be trusted This is what has lead me down this road. I won't lie however, when saying that I often skate between the two ideologies based on the context: this leads me to always wonder if my loyalty truly lies with the ideology or simply within the idea that I want to see society exist as a highly intelligent entity with much emphasis based on values and morals However, we won't know which ideology is truly right until we shift the Overton window",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493935786 124122831,124149402,2017-05-04 22:10:47,">>124149017 I don't see ancapistan coming any time soon, that's why I support anything against the left, Zog wars, or things of a pro market nature.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493935847 124122831,124149646,2017-05-04 22:12:52,">>124148382 >>124149281 I truly want to believe hat we can exist as such a high-trust society; but at the same time, taking human nature into consideration: some days I am just not sure we can get there anytime soon, if ever possible at all",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493935972 124122831,124151288,2017-05-04 22:28:10,">>124149281 I'm right there with you. Honestly natsoc seems more likely and possible, and therefore I am tempted to hop over, but I know it is contradictory in a philosophical sense. Like I said, I see it as the easier, softer path. The temptation to join natsoc is very real though. Interesting topic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493936890 124122831,124151718,2017-05-04 22:32:04,">>124149646 An anarcho-capitalist society would work absolutely fantastic if everyone thought and behaved exactly like me. The thing about a high-trust society is that it would require everyone to come together and explicitly express the trust. In regions like Somalia and Syria, there's anarchy, but no one there is an anarchist, they all belong to the different authoritarian factions that simply have yet to succeed to defeat all the others (Hezbollah, ISIS, Assad's regime, Somaliland, etc.). In an ancap society, there would be no such warlord factions arising because there would be explicit agreements about how to behave and to work against any invading forces that try to take hold (e.g. Hoppe's aforementioned idea of physical removal). Robert Murphy, from the von Mises Institute, quite nicely describes this phenomenon, starting at around 0:40 of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ak3TwNXA0w Essentially, if there is to be an ancapistan, it cannot be formed from statist normies, because as has been observed in this thread, people are too fucking stupid for their own good, and as Murphy observed, they're often too violent for their own good (when no one's there to stop them). My conclusion: NatSoc is the best way to govern normies, AnCap is the best way for enlightened people to govern themselves.",,Anonymous,naga aggression principle.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,US,,1493937124 124122831,124151935,2017-05-04 22:34:10,">>124149646 I think we can come somewhat close. One large concern of mine is the altright and 4chan and generally non-left and disillusioned groups in our society don't seem to be interested in raising families, at least not the millenials. That to me is the only path, we have to raise a few generations with strong morality, honor, and philosophical concepts(or religion, if you are that type). I can't imagine a large change in the collective mentality of the world's adults at this point. TLDR; raise kids like Yuri said, and counter the Marxists, they have these generations",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493937250 124122831,124152618,2017-05-04 22:40:09,">>124151288 I won't lie when I say that I am still trying to make peace with the dissonance caused by the philosophy of it all. Both ideologies go very deep and is governed by how you view the world and all that changes with context >>124151718 >My conclusion: NatSoc is the best way to govern normies, AnCap is the best way for enlightened people to govern themselves I can't say I disagree to that However, I find we vary on which one is more possible >>124151935 I truly believe the nuclear family and traditional gender roles are vital to a healthy, prosperous, and highly functioning society",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493937609 124122831,124152838,2017-05-04 22:42:03,">>124149646 Look at the number of decades between Marx and the first communist revolutions. The key factor is memeing it into the man-on-the-street's ideological vocabulary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493937723 124122831,124153786,2017-05-04 22:51:11,">>124152618 Right there with you on all of it. My philosophical path leads me to libertarian. But logic in the short term renders it useless. And family is key for the society I think both groups want, and a rejection of degeracy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493938271 124122831,124154178,2017-05-04 22:54:47,">>124152618 If we're discussing which one's more possible, well, considering the ratio of normies to non-normies like us, it seems NatSoc is much more feasible, and I'd rather avoid that. We'd need some way to either congregate and form a sizable covenant in which to implement Hoppean libertarianism or to outbreed the normies and prevent the need for NatSoc entirely.",,Anonymous,physical awooval.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,US,,1493938487 124193570,124193570,2017-05-05 07:26:18,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG https://pastebin.com/MCnW2bsX",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - gimme your memes edition,MrLibertarian,meme.jpg,jJ+XdLhndL7/lpnEJmSUBA==,BR,,1493969178 124193570,124193742,2017-05-05 07:28:48,,,MrLibertarian,gunsoungscobrinha.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,BR,,1493969328 124193570,124193818,2017-05-05 07:29:49,,,Anonymous,1492602332372.jpg,WS1x0WzAfnUxyqRZDpCwsg==,BR,,1493969389 124193570,124193885,2017-05-05 07:30:52,,,MrLibertarian,1493897421463.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,BR,,1493969452 124193570,124193901,2017-05-05 07:31:05,,,Anonymous,1491742443926m.jpg,65OXxrD1l3bJnGhvqFuLig==,BR,,1493969465 124193570,124193974,2017-05-05 07:32:12,,,MrLibertarian,mises.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,BR,,1493969532 124193570,124195354,2017-05-05 07:52:37,Daily reminder that commies aren't people,,Anonymous,149324642925509.png,rA46o2SkZyZ0/Z0Td8deXg==,US,,1493970757 124193570,124196318,2017-05-05 08:06:35,,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1493971595 124193570,124196559,2017-05-05 08:09:49,">>124193570 Is this corporate bootlicking autist general? I'm assuming I'm in the right thread.",,Anonymous,libertarianism is tyranny.png,iOeQQUhi7otICBPuB5ih0g==,US,,1493971789 124193570,124196792,2017-05-05 08:13:16,">>124196559 Fuck yourself you niggerloving commie dipshit.",,Anonymous,image_0.jpg,1s3FPAifERSdVjv6vJXCLA==,US,,1493971996 124193570,124196901,2017-05-05 08:14:38,">>124196792 kek",,Anonymous,thats my purse lolbertarian.jpg,Hivd/G1q4uoi5qVzyfmBXw==,US,,1493972078 124193570,124196940,2017-05-05 08:15:09,">>124196559 We support small companies over major corporations who are for the most part in cahoots (or however you spell it) with the states and pay for less taxes than smaller companies per x amount of revenue and employee. Obviously the issue is that small companies have to pay high taxes, not that the big ones pay less (fuck them though for being part of the system).",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493972109 124193570,124197056,2017-05-05 08:16:48,">>124196940 I'm still not a libertarian but at least you articulate it in a way that sounds reasonable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493972208 124193570,124197221,2017-05-05 08:19:06,">>124196559 Spotted the gommie. >>124193570 Libertarians using my daughterfu as a poster girl? You guys are alright",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493972346 124193570,124197242,2017-05-05 08:19:22,What do my /lrg/ friends think of Jack Donovan and his Barbarian culture? It's look a lot interesting and might be the answer to (((their))) attempts to hinder men's progress in today's society. He's a bit on the fashy goy side but his other views sound quite appealing.,,Anonymous,71+JjFY6q8L.jpg,Zw8GFyr0zAwZbTcqnaqyqw==,PT,,1493972362 124193570,124197600,2017-05-05 08:24:11,"Over the last 20 years, since the end of apartheid really, South Africa has really gone to shit. The current socialist president has recently called for the confiscation of all white land & hints at the full removal of whites from the country. >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/03/jacob-zuma-calls-confiscation-white-land-without-compensation/ >http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-04/white-south-africans-are-preparing-slaughter-and-removal-all-whites-within-five-year At least there is the based Suidlanders civil defense group.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493972651 124193570,124197785,2017-05-05 08:26:50,">>124197221 >gommie but lolbergs are leftists too",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493972810 124193570,124197790,2017-05-05 08:26:57,">>124197242 I'm not familiar, anything specific I should look into? >>124197600 Yeah I know south African whites are on the brink of being overtly genocide. I hope for the best for them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493972817 124193570,124197882,2017-05-05 08:28:11,">>124197785 No. Libertarians are the true Right, natural law and all. Kinda like NatSoc calls themselves the true left from time to time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493972891 124193570,124197922,2017-05-05 08:28:45,,,Anonymous,gadsden snek.png,clDIhiNY81ru5w69jWvlTg==,SE,,1493972925 124193570,124198299,2017-05-05 08:33:36,">>124197882 answer the following question: which one is the smallest unit of society? a) individual b) family",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493973216 124193570,124198408,2017-05-05 08:35:06,">>124197600 Good",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493973306 124193570,124198594,2017-05-05 08:37:51,">>124197790 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v48H9FreyY He sounds meta as fuck. Advocates male tribalism, paganism, traditionalism, hates PC culture, snowflakes, etc. >https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan >https://www.counter-currents.com/2014/07/jack-donovans-a-sky-without-eagles/",,Anonymous,4866e536afea7cf4726239dda4677de9.jpg,/UPATNX437HxjXQ05gr86g==,PT,,1493973471 124193570,124198621,2017-05-05 08:38:16,">>124198408 Of course Hans is pro genocide.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493973496 124193570,124198680,2017-05-05 08:39:15,">>124198299 Society is built on the actions of the individual; thus the individual is the smallest unit of society. Society could exist without families, however it would be difficult for that to be the case. The family unit is indeed far more efficient than the individual, since the family unit is comprised of individuals whose goals include uplifting one another from a state of futility to a state of usefulness; a state in which the individual would prosper",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493973555 124193570,124198690,2017-05-05 08:39:20,">>124198299 I'd say the individual, you need a mother and a father don't you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493973560 124193570,124199037,2017-05-05 08:44:23,">>124198680 >>124198690 see, you guys are leftists. the right wing sees the family as the basic unit of society, not the individual.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493973863 124193570,124199042,2017-05-05 08:44:26,">>124198621 Maybe he meant good that the white militia is standing its ground?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493973866 124193570,124199086,2017-05-05 08:44:59,">>124198299 Also may I add if you have shit individuals, you have shit families. Family is important, but you need to care for the individuals to have a healthy family.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493973899 124193570,124199146,2017-05-05 08:45:47,Just a reminder that socialism fails everywhere it is applied.,,Anonymous,1492772193913.jpg,hfOl1kRdcRkpKVwed8M2Dg==,US,,1493973947 124193570,124199185,2017-05-05 08:46:26,">>124199037 >>124199037 Lol, get out of here faggotwe don't deny the importance of the family unit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493973986 124193570,124199352,2017-05-05 08:48:28,,,Anonymous,pinakides.jpg,Ui8lL3IqAHfzYjlVtEqKBA==,GR,,1493974108 124193570,124199379,2017-05-05 08:48:48,">>124199185 no, the choice is mutually exclusive, you can't shill for individualism while claiming you support family values.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493974128 124193570,124199636,2017-05-05 08:52:29,">>124199379 I bet you think individualism means having orange hair. You have no clue what individualism is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493974349 124193570,124199699,2017-05-05 08:53:15,">>124199037 I'm not denying the importance of the family unit. In a way the family is the basic unit of society, a functional society, but its not absolutely essential",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493974395 124193570,124199846,2017-05-05 08:55:09,">>124199379 >you can't shill for individualism while claiming you support family values. That's retarded. Explain why we can't support both",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493974509 124193570,124199924,2017-05-05 08:56:02,">>124198299 The family; the rise of private property is inextricably linked to the rise of the nuclear family and the parental household. When humans evolved from hunter-gatherer societies where no real private property existed other than one's clothes into fixed societies, the concept of a man personally owning the scarce resources which he obtained from Nature also came to be. Instead of collecting berries and small animals to add to the ""publicly-owned""/""common"" property of the tribe, humans started to develop bonds of love and sympathy for the opposite sex and a desire to nurture their children and love them (r/K selection theory). This is why the Left (and modern states in general) is hellbent on destroying the nuclear family; Marx and Engels both correctly asserted that destroying the ""bourgeois"" lifestyle of capitalist countries rested in annihilating the concept of monogamy, kinship and in-group preference. The state stretches its tentacles and attempts to engulf all private institutions, clubs and organizations which may (and do) stand between it and its goal: to become the ultimate master of all humans serving it. The state seeks the absolute loyalty of its followers, who in turn are prohibited to form their own associations and in-group clubs that escape its power. What better way to tax and expropriate someone than to render him completely defenseless against state power by way of subverting and ultimately destroying all organic social structures that stand in its path?",,Anonymous,1486329845598.jpg,86yVrragQI+3ZkF8GIx0wQ==,PT,,1493974562 124193570,124200027,2017-05-05 08:57:07,">>124199352 Τι έχεις σβήσει εkεί πέρα;",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1493974627 124193570,124200328,2017-05-05 09:00:58,">>124199037 >see, you guys are totally on the other side of a false dichotomy that definitely exists",,Anonymous,days without jewish tricks.jpg,h06qrNBZnHtHHwh965p5WA==,AU,,1493974858 124193570,124200744,2017-05-05 09:06:36,">>124193570 I think pol fucked my ideology up. I'm Libertarian, but I advocate for the preservation of the white race and be willing to work with Nazi's. How did this happen to me?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493975196 124193570,124200825,2017-05-05 09:07:49,,,Anonymous,1493989041910.jpg,YBNFEzofxtQ7TiBm4d2BJQ==,DE,,1493975269 124193570,124201145,2017-05-05 09:11:34,">>124200744 I'm in the same boat, gotta preserve your people to preserve your liberty",,Anonymous,Pol__2__0.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1493975494 124193570,124201182,2017-05-05 09:12:05,">>124200825 His wife ain't brown.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493975525 124193570,124201347,2017-05-05 09:14:14,">>124200825 Now I feel regret for having written that long ass post. You're a sad faggot. Also, that ""shitskin woman"" isn't brown nor is she stupid, they met when she was taking a post-grad or whatever.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493975654 124193570,124201401,2017-05-05 09:14:51,">>124201182 His wife is Turkish. She doesn't look bad at all",,Anonymous,cf38bdeb2530488ebb75e1f3763d71c4.jpg,sFbAX4PAa7hRFWIefyr+sw==,CA,,1493975691 124193570,124201599,2017-05-05 09:17:38,">>124201145 It's really fucking weird. When Nazis and Libertarians are fighting, I honesty don't know who to side with, I like both.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493975858 124193570,124201725,2017-05-05 09:19:30,">>124201599 Just be a reactionary racist libertarian.",,Anonymous,eJwNyFEOgyAMANC7cADqSkHxNgQJmikltMaPZXff3uf7mHucZjW7apcVYDsk89isKI9Ui63M9SypH2IzX5BUU96v0lQAI0UKtMTZO__Igv_Xn2iZ5uAwIuKLCO72bvw021s13x8KjCLr.png,S+yqfcOC0Wj+9gR2snLXPA==,US,,1493975970 124193570,124201860,2017-05-05 09:21:26,">>124201725 Sounds good to me!",,Anonymous,1493964218745.jpg,x6KfnHpER9jIh2UjmxOm8A==,AU,,1493976086 124193570,124202439,2017-05-05 09:28:54,,,Anonymous,ancapepe.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1493976534 124193570,124202544,2017-05-05 09:30:10,">>124200744 /pol/ had the opposite effect on me. It drove me to the left after realizing how hollow, parochial, and ultimately indefensible the right's arguments are. When you stop paying attention to the low-hanging fruit of the left and start seriously contemplating what scholars have written, it becomes apparent that most of the people on here simply don't have any idea what they're talking about, and are only voicing the prejudices they acquired long ago, using scanty (and usually dubious) evidence to rationalize them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493976610 124193570,124202620,2017-05-05 09:31:15,">>124202544 Then why the fuck are you here?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493976675 124193570,124202697,2017-05-05 09:32:16,">>124202544 Lefty pol or antifa?",,Anonymous,81801907-DC84-4D9B-8114-460F4FB6B14E-3416-00001038B39163DD_tmp.jpg,yCfnjOgEQjmoHPGPrT1rug==,AU,,1493976736 124193570,124202739,2017-05-05 09:32:53,">>124202620 To understand the opposition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493976773 124193570,124202748,2017-05-05 09:33:02,Austrian or Chicago school?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493976782 124193570,124202835,2017-05-05 09:34:19,">>124197056 Something is either reasonable or it is not. Choose one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493976859 124193570,124202885,2017-05-05 09:34:52,">>124202748 Why not both?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493976892 124193570,124202962,2017-05-05 09:35:59,">>124202697 Saved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493976959 124193570,124202972,2017-05-05 09:36:02,">>124199846 because individualism leads to women's suffrage and their participation in the workforce.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493976962 124193570,124203054,2017-05-05 09:36:56,">>124202972 No that's egalitarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493977016 124193570,124203080,2017-05-05 09:37:16,">>124202697 Neither. I say I was driven to the left, but I meant to the left of /pol/. I'm not a communist or anything. I relate most to the post-left anarchists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493977036 124193570,124203214,2017-05-05 09:39:01,OC,,Anonymous,acb.jpg,hhmERLykEHjWkl05rrYqmA==,CA,,1493977141 124193570,124203278,2017-05-05 09:39:46,">>124203054 so you're an individualist but agree that half the population shouldn't enjoy the same individual freedoms as the other half?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493977186 124193570,124203282,2017-05-05 09:39:49,">>124202544 >this whole post you said absolutely nothing of substance. please be specific about what you find indefensible.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493977189 124193570,124203444,2017-05-05 09:41:52,JANET YELLEN'S HEAD ON A PIKE,,Anonymous,1493980627222.jpg,VghDnP4cpHaFEzX7sfjwyQ==,CA,,1493977312 124193570,124203469,2017-05-05 09:42:09,">>124193570 Thoughts on funding college tuition with lotteries? Even if it's not 100%, anything would be better than 0%. At least then it would be voluntary instead of theft. Made me think why you aren't allowed to start your own lottery, it removes government power a lot. Makes them small, any way thanks again Libertarians to opening my eyes. Every time I see a problem in the world, 90% can be traced back to the government fucking shit up somewhere. Makes you wonder who is really there for you. I think we could do a much better job as a community. Another question: do you think it would be possible to have an AI make our government decisions? As it is not corrupted, it makes sense to me. That leaves us with an corrupt economic system, and there we could use the blockchain. What do you think? Is this what we need?",,Anonymous,jsp.jpg,B+R6Z5Gy6ysKSEylpj98ug==,NL,,1493977329 124193570,124203486,2017-05-05 09:42:19,">>124202748 Austrian",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493977339 124193570,124203522,2017-05-05 09:42:43,">>124203278 voting is not a freedom or a right. It's only framed as one.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493977363 124193570,124203608,2017-05-05 09:43:42,">>124203278 It only leads to their participation in the workforce if employers choose to employ them. Surely he would not hire women if he has worked with them in the past because men are better at jobs",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493977422 124193570,124203674,2017-05-05 09:44:29,">>124202885 Because they are opposites in terms of methodology. Austrian school is aprioristic while the Chicago school is positivist.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493977469 124193570,124203689,2017-05-05 09:44:38,">>124203278 I believe every individual has a place in the hierarchy, I do not believe all roles are equal. The father guides the family, the mother is the caretaker. And democracy is egalitarianism also.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493977478 124193570,124203704,2017-05-05 09:44:45,">>124203522 this",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493977485 124193570,124203736,2017-05-05 09:45:09,">>124203469 >Thoughts on funding college tuition with lotteries? lmao in a free market college as we know it wouldn't exist ""tuition would cost maybe a few hundred dollars and would be mostly VR based"" no need for these gigantic schools and sports teams",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493977509 124193570,124203782,2017-05-05 09:45:41,">>124203080 What would you consider left? I support freedom as in you can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't harm anyone. The only thing I would consider myself conservative is family and multiculturalism. I don't really care if we legalise gay marriage but it should not be promoted as normal, being gay is a failure to the gene pool because a humans purpose is to reproduce. There is no evidence that multiculturalism works, it divides a nation more than unites it, as my parents lived in Yugoslavia and people kept to their own community and not trusting any outsiders, resulting in the collapse of the nation.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493977541 124193570,124203862,2017-05-05 09:46:45,">>124203674 >Austrian school is aprioristic while the Chicago school is positivist. this is why I like the Austrian school the most. A priori truth > empirically derived laws",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493977605 124193570,124203869,2017-05-05 09:46:47,">>124203674 Eh, both capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493977607 124193570,124203978,2017-05-05 09:48:02,">>124202972 why wouldn't a woman choose to be a housewife? >>124203278 opportunities =/= outcomes",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493977682 124193570,124204033,2017-05-05 09:48:44,">>124203674 Pretty much this. Was also hoping to see others' more developed and educated opinions on them because I'm pretty split between supporting both of them and haven't taken formal high-level courses that focused on them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493977724 124193570,124204683,2017-05-05 09:56:18,"so let me get this straight poor and hopelessly unskilled people (low IQ's like me) should support ancap because while they lose out on immediate welfare gains, they gain more in the long-term by decreased prices on everything and a higher standard of living if the rich are absolutely and completely free of regulations? so in this ancapistan, I would still have to work, but if my needs are low and prices are low, I shouldn't have to work very long or very hard to still live comfortably? I kind of see how it might work, but this is hard sell desu. The problem is that poor people in general can't really think in the long-term because otherwise they wouldn't be poor anymore. how do you address this problem and convince poor/low IQ fags similar to myself? preferably not by gassing. t. NEET",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493978178 124193570,124204743,2017-05-05 09:57:00,"I'm going to post this in every fucking thread until you guys wake up. Why do you guys suck so much at propaganda? Where are my infographics I can post when someone brings up the ""muh monopolies"" argument? Where are infographics explaining rothbard's explanation for the great depression? You people are fucking lazy. Stop working for a living and be meme creating neets for once.",,Anonymous,1493725378205.jpg,CACJkMPoSLPWHg/p4OM97Q==,CA,,1493978220 124193570,124204820,2017-05-05 09:57:53,">>124204683 I'm sorry to tell you this but NEETS might starve if they don't live under their daddies money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493978273 124193570,124204949,2017-05-05 09:59:20,">>124202835 >sounds reasonable >actually being reasonable There's a difference.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493978360 124193570,124204982,2017-05-05 09:59:41,">>124204743 I pulled it out of my ass",,Anonymous,1488024496300.jpg,a65c0IX67r6R4+rcjbPNtA==,AU,,1493978381 124193570,124205077,2017-05-05 10:00:41,">>124204820 well if prices are low because the free market makes things cheaper (this is true, right?), then I shouldn't have to worry about that too much if daddy can just spare a few dollarydoos every now and then instead of giving me a check in person with a death-stare about how i need to get a job and gf for grandchildren",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493978441 124193570,124205116,2017-05-05 10:01:11,">>124204683 >""WAAAAAAA PAY FOR MY COMFORTABLE LIFE"" the post Pathetic. You're deluded if you think you have the right to steal our money so that you could support your parasitic and comfy lifestyle",,Anonymous,smug kizuna pathetic.jpg,YODSM7OJJWsSQgiAwhrvmg==,CA,,1493978471 124193570,124205260,2017-05-05 10:02:47,">>124203522 how so? >>124203608 doesn't matter how many women they choose to employ, the fact that they're part of the workforce already drives down the wages. >>124203689 but your place in the hierarchy should be based on individual merit, no? how do you reconcile taking away women's suffrage and working rights with fair individual competition? >>124203978 >why wouldn't a woman choose to be a housewife? because if women are part of the workforce, the oversupply of workers drives down wages, making the single income family an unattainable goal for most women. >opportunities =/= outcomes how is this egalitarianism though?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493978567 124193570,124205315,2017-05-05 10:03:16,">>124204683 >>124205116 my mistake. I read your post too fast. I thought you were complaining about not getting gibs",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493978596 124193570,124205541,2017-05-05 10:05:39,">>124204683 >I would still have to work, but if my needs are low and prices are low, I shouldn't have to work very long or very hard to still live comfortably? Honestly, if there were no central banks. You would only have to work 2 days a WEEK at most. and this would decrease as living standards do also you'd be able to retire much earlier.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493978739 124193570,124205594,2017-05-05 10:06:14,">>124204820 this is why you ancap babbies are delusional. you assume the losers in your system would just roll over and accept their fate.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493978774 124193570,124205705,2017-05-05 10:07:25,"Daily reminder the first country to eliminate their central bank and allow free market banking will have the highest living standards on earth within 5 years. Massive high paying service sector jobs with dominate this country's economy to consume the goods the rest of the world has to produce for it. The workweek would shrink to 2-3 days a week and people would retire much earlier. This will also lead to more jobs becoming available. Everyone would have high saving rates. Houses would be inexpensive. Debt would be strongly discouraged economically. Massive automation would take place as the cost of capital goods would be extremely cheap. This will lead to massive levels of technological innovation. It would be extremely easy for the average person to start a business due to the cheap cost of capital goods. Daily reminder that real free markets have prices falling all the time instead is going up. We don't live in anything close to a free market. Daily reminder America never had a system of free market banking. There were only patches of American history with free market banking. The panics that happened during the 1800s were due to government intervention in the banking sector. Sweden had the longest most successful period of free banking and that's what made them really rich. Daily reminder the longest period of (relatively)free banking in America coincided with the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION where wages rose and prices fell. Daily reminder central banks are the very reason the economy is a pile of shit and our generation is so fucked!",,Anonymous,1493824534900.jpg,RLxvaddUk6ETDmmCZBw9RQ==,CA,,1493978845 124193570,124205721,2017-05-05 10:07:36,">>124205541 >Honestly, if there were no central banks. You would only have to work 2 days a WEEK at most. Holy shit. Redpill me on this?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493978856 124193570,124205757,2017-05-05 10:08:00,">>124205594 >you assume the losers in your system would just roll over and accept their fate. they are losers for a reason",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1493978880 124193570,124205973,2017-05-05 10:10:12,">>124204683 Ancapistan is about devolving power back to families; power the state has usurped. NEETs would either be subsidized by their families or be forced to adapt and become productive members of society, lest they wanted to fall behind.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493979012 124193570,124206004,2017-05-05 10:10:31,">>124205541 ok cool that doesn't sound too bad. i am trying to understand ok, you must see that for the lowest of society's low this is difficult to fully grasp because we are just not very bright but I also want to ask: does this also mean there would be more jobs available and less competition for them? is there any guarantee that low skilled jobs will even still be there or would everything become automated and jobs for the lowest of society's low goes away?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493979031 124193570,124206036,2017-05-05 10:10:59,">>124204743 I'm gonna call you a faggot trap-lover everyday until you change your nihilo-Libertarian ways. Faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493979059 124193570,124206133,2017-05-05 10:11:50,">>124204743 I did those blue and black & white Hoppe quotes and pic related. Might do one on immigration entirely soon.",,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1493979110 124193570,124206134,2017-05-05 10:11:52,">>124206004 Maybe slavery could be brought back",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1493979112 124193570,124206222,2017-05-05 10:12:49,">>124205757 >be loser NEET with no future >local warlord recruits you >your job is now to take other people's private property by force in case you were wondering what happens to young men who got nothing going for them in a decentralized society",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1493979169 124193570,124206393,2017-05-05 10:14:42,">>124205721 >Redpill me on this? see: >>124205705 dude trust me its the ultimate redpill even /pol/ itself is too cucked to accept the centralbankpill IMAGINE A WORLD where your wages rise all the time, while prices fall all the time, while your savings rate increases all of the time, where you could put money into a savings account and the interest rate would be like 8-14% Over time you would bargain for jobs that had lower hours, you would find jobs that allowed this.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493979282 124193570,124206473,2017-05-05 10:15:39,">>124206004 >but I also want to ask: does this also mean there would be more jobs available and less competition for them? is there any guarantee that low skilled jobs will even still be there or would everything become automated and jobs for the lowest of society's low goes away? There would be more jobs, but competition would be higher. Think with me: if we remove state regulations (minimum wage laws, price fixings, red tape, corporate taxes, copyright/IP laws, etc.) and essentially make everyone free to sell and buy to whomever they want, competition would be much bigger than we have today. We would have a much more diverse and varied selection of products to meet even greater and more varied consumer demands. NEETs like yourself who aren't very bright and/or skilled would probably have to shape up or resign to lower paying jobs that are heavy on human capital or lack workers. You wouldn't have state welfare too, so you'd better become a responsible and peaceful member of the community in order for other people to want to help you get back on your feet. Private charities and clubs, and what-not.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493979339 124193570,124206836,2017-05-05 10:19:51,">>124206004 >does this also mean there would be more jobs available yes as the price of capital comes down it becomes easier and easier for anyone to start a business there would be a massive service sector economy, massive chucks of land would be just for amusement parks and restaurants and shit >is there any guarantee that low skilled jobs It's funny. What this process also does, is lowers the skill level for all jobs while increasing the wage. There will be high paying jobs that don't require much skill. >lowest of society's low goes away You mean homeless. They'll never work anyway. Society would have so much disposable income that they would be able to take care of them easily.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493979591 124193570,124206904,2017-05-05 10:20:40,"Why do libertarians ITT not realize what a RADICAL shift getting rid of the central bank would do for the economy? It would be the BIGGEST fucking thing ever.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493979640 124193570,124207133,2017-05-05 10:23:15,">>124206904 They do know central banking is shit. We all agree and so we never debate it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493979795 124193570,124207204,2017-05-05 10:23:58,">>124207133 >They do know central banking is shit. We all agree and so we never debate it. Then why don't you try to convince other people?",,Anonymous,Zimbabwe Trillion_3_CROP.jpg,2bSHVcY+J+pBM/QhnAYgfw==,CA,,1493979838 124193570,124207284,2017-05-05 10:24:52,"Remember when that britfag that drew pic related said he was going to make a bunch more a month ago and he NEVER EVER DID FUCK",,Anonymous,1486328095873.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,CA,,1493979892 124193570,124207368,2017-05-05 10:25:52,">>124207204 I do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493979952 124193570,124207611,2017-05-05 10:28:14,"Where are infographics on the great depression? lmao our movement is a fucking joke, just let the commies take over already",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493980094 124193570,124207621,2017-05-05 10:28:22,">>124206473 >>124206836 ok thank you, it is good to know that I at least understood this much to see that it will benefit me and other neets if we don't have to work very much. it will just be hard for me to convince them to the idea of work in general but if its like what you say, at least work will not be too much and be tolerable the price of things everywhere getting cheaper sounds nice too. everything is so expensive these days, even with welfare you can't get much. cheaper for less effort sounds nice Again I don't want big money, just a simple life for simple people. i guess I will use cheaper everything and easier employment + less work with higher wages as points is there any particular book that explains how ancap benefits the poor in more detail? i am sorry if people insist on being poor, just not everybody is smart enough and that's ok i guess as long as we give up welfare",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493980102 124193570,124207851,2017-05-05 10:30:40,">>124207621 >the price of things everywhere getting cheaper sounds nice too. Like much cheaper though, instead of food being 400 dollars a month, imagine it was 150 dollars a month also when we get automated vertical farming it will be like 10 dollars a month for all the food you need. at that point you would RARELY have to work",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493980240 124193570,124207975,2017-05-05 10:32:08,">>124207621 >is there any particular book that explains how ancap benefits the poor in more detail? Actually I don't know any. I know there is some though. I just know it's going to happen due to what happened historically in the free banking gilded age. During this 30 years, prices fell as wages rose. It was a period of full free banking and deflation too.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493980328 124193570,124208132,2017-05-05 10:33:41,">>124206133 So a couple of days ago I made a post about deriving property rights a priori. It was quite flawed back then, but I now have an improved system. Just explain it to any libertarian socialist who has the audacity to talk about liberty and make him BTFO. If the socialist doesn't at least acknowledge that his philosophy is not one of liberty, then he's absolutely delusional. First, definitions are required: >Let liberty be self-ownership and freedom from aggression. >Define aggression to be coercive action against an individual’s body and his ability to exercise his will. >Define private property to be material and that which is subject only to your own will. >Define resource to be any material object. >Define appropriation to be making use of a resource. Now we establish first principles: >Resources are essential for carrying out actions / exercising will. >Individuals possess the right to liberty. Since libertarian socialism is opposed to private property and holds that it is tyranny, I will now show that this really isn't the case by showing that private property rights that extend beyond self-ownership are absolutely essential for liberty: >when one decides to exercise non-aggressive will, resources are appropriated in a non-aggressive manner. Namely, no coercion is practiced against another. >if said resources are originally appropriated by person A, and since appropriation of said resources are required to exercise will, proceeding and non-consensual appropriation by person B prevents A from achieving his desired end >by the right to liberty, it follows that original non-aggressive action maintain a state of liberty while proceeding action that conflicts with the first is aggressive >thus person B acts aggressively against A >thus private property rights must exist QED",,Anonymous,1491891724362.png,FLQZpZL/imjJJIRfu8BWEw==,CA,,1493980421 124193570,124208153,2017-05-05 10:34:00,">>124207611 >Commies I'd rather have a depression than no food.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493980440 124193570,124208367,2017-05-05 10:36:25,">>124208132 >MUH LOGIC you people are faggots but I respect you but you're still worthless faggots and not furthering the libertarian cause >muh moral arguments pathetic",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493980585 124193570,124208619,2017-05-05 10:39:01,">>124207851 >>124207975 very reassuring. me and my friends are leaving natsoc and stumbled into this because we were told that neets are to be gassed or forced into work/war or at least must breed. too aggressive at this point it all sounds disgusting in retrospect but realize that we also dislike blatant degeneracy and had nowhere else to go. this ancap stuff sounds like a better deal overall if we are at least left alone and can get things with minimal work until we die having lived a good life and can give the world to high IQs peacefully",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493980741 124193570,124208675,2017-05-05 10:39:39,">>124207621 Glad I could help, but here's what Hoppe thinks of NEETs I think:",,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1493980779 124193570,124208761,2017-05-05 10:40:37,">>124208367 Fuck off with that empty nihilist shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493980837 124193570,124208860,2017-05-05 10:41:47,">>124208675 Do you have any of hoppe's anti moral relativist quotes for Canada?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493980907 124193570,124208861,2017-05-05 10:41:46,">>124208367 I make moral arguments to validate the libertarian cause. You're delusional if you believe moral arguments aren't important",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493980906 124193570,124208940,2017-05-05 10:42:37,">>124208132 yes, I remember you. I see you've bettered the argument, that's it. Thanks for the update man, I'll save this post. Also add that if he doesn't believe property rights exist and that humans cannot own property then he has no business in using his standing room, his brain and his vocal chords to form an argument against self ownership and private property.",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1493980957 124193570,124209003,2017-05-05 10:43:24,">>124208860 Might as well dump the set.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1493981004 124193570,124209032,2017-05-05 10:43:43,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1493981023 124193570,124209065,2017-05-05 10:44:02,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1493981042 124193570,124209094,2017-05-05 10:44:22,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1493981062 124193570,124209135,2017-05-05 10:44:44,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1493981084 124193570,124209156,2017-05-05 10:45:01,">>124208675 it sounds like this hoppe man did not like degenerates very much, and i see his point. is the whole written like that? it is hard having to reread several times out loud just to get the idea of what he is saying",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493981101 124193570,124209258,2017-05-05 10:46:15,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1493981175 124193570,124209429,2017-05-05 10:47:57,">>124208153 >>124208132 >>124207621 >>124207133 Come on the discord and voice chat about libertarianism and economics discord.gg/6Kw3J",,Anonymous,FaceApp_1492250619936.jpg,TzzXsjxYPkqsflHEQCFaQw==,CA,,1493981277 124193570,124209464,2017-05-05 10:48:19,">>124209156 Democracy The God That Failed is a very good book and in-depth, but in terms of understanding difficulty, it's basic bitch. Don't mean to offend you, but if you think these passages are hard to understand you might want to stay with the Nazis and leave us alone. You're making the ""Nazis are ancaps retarded little brothers"" meme come true.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1493981299 124193570,124209494,2017-05-05 10:48:41,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1493981321 124193570,124209527,2017-05-05 10:49:01,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1493981341 124193570,124209584,2017-05-05 10:49:24,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1493981364 124193570,124209641,2017-05-05 10:49:58,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1493981398 124193570,124209684,2017-05-05 10:50:22,">>124209464 that is fine, I don't mean to ruin reputation. i got what i needed to know and that is enough for me to think ancap works. I guess i will leave the thread now, good luck ancap people",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493981422 124193570,124209705,2017-05-05 10:50:32,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1493981432 124193570,124209745,2017-05-05 10:50:56,">>124209684 Godspeed brother.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1493981456 124193570,124209772,2017-05-05 10:51:16,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote.jpg,oODt2L5Psj5PFgc04lpqfg==,PT,,1493981476 124193570,124209808,2017-05-05 10:51:44,">>124196559 Corporations as we know them are a product of the state, which libertarians want to diminish. Corporations in a libertarian society would be far less powerful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493981504 124193570,124209812,2017-05-05 10:51:46,,,Anonymous,hoppe expulsion.png,MYXxcYpUYsv/VE/vI3UFRw==,PT,,1493981506 124193570,124209886,2017-05-05 10:52:25,Brazilbro's preferred order to read Hoppe.,,Anonymous,hoppe reading order.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,PT,,1493981545 124193570,124209936,2017-05-05 10:52:59,Rothbard's guide to retaking America,,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,PT,,1493981579 124193570,124209983,2017-05-05 10:53:18,,,Anonymous,hoppe check em.png,a0MepQNWpK+ksQ9fSimWYg==,PT,,1493981598 124193570,124210039,2017-05-05 10:53:46,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1493981626 124193570,124210058,2017-05-05 10:53:59,">>124209584 I remember fringelements turning against anti-statism and he said hoppe had no examples of how to defend an anti statist society against an army or state but then hoppe said this so wtf",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493981639 124193570,124210080,2017-05-05 10:54:10,,,Anonymous,lrg immigration.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,PT,,1493981650 124193570,124210168,2017-05-05 10:55:10,">>124210058 He has an entire book dedicated to it, and even edited another (The Myth of National Defense).",,Anonymous,bpap.png,KuqDGVnKr+3cZqBZQqaUnQ==,PT,,1493981710 124193570,124210242,2017-05-05 10:55:52,">>124209812 >there can be no tolerance towards communists and democrats in a libertarian social order why?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493981752 124193570,124210258,2017-05-05 10:56:01,,,Anonymous,anarcho-cute 2.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,PT,,1493981761 124193570,124210337,2017-05-05 10:56:51,Don't Tread On Me,,Anonymous,taxationistheft.jpg,9Yb4y6Bgx3fpriO6PHu/Ig==,US,,1493981811 124193570,124210417,2017-05-05 10:57:40,">>124210242 Tolerance toward these people is what allowed them seizing the state apparatus over time and using it to plunder civilization. Hoppe says adults would have to keep other adult members of society who espoused these views in check, by ridiculing them and ostracizing them whenever possible if they're serious about it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493981860 124193570,124210456,2017-05-05 10:58:05,">>124210242 Because communism and majority rule contradict libertarian principles",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493981885 124193570,124210619,2017-05-05 10:59:46,">>124204820 What's stopping me from rallying the unwashed masses and taking your property with the promise of providing them safety in return for tax.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493981986 124193570,124210720,2017-05-05 11:00:54,">>124209936 >get rid of the bums >where will they go? >who cares >hopefully they will disappear Why was rothbard so based?",,Anonymous,1461437902983.png,RUn94fhHx7XEDd6Reo7nRQ==,CA,,1493982054 124193570,124210803,2017-05-05 11:01:39,">>124210619 private militias",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493982099 124193570,124210874,2017-05-05 11:02:19,">>124210619 Angry property owners with guns and property defense companies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493982139 124193570,124210913,2017-05-05 11:02:48,">>124209429 Can't do mate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493982168 124193570,124210993,2017-05-05 11:03:49,">>124210803 >>124210874 >Private militias This whole ancap thing just sounds like neo-feudalism to me",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493982229 124193570,124210996,2017-05-05 11:03:50,,,Anonymous,don'tavertyourp.jpg,2T4onCkjieqD0t/o8BMs3Q==,US,,1493982230 124193570,124211373,2017-05-05 11:07:40,">>124210720 Kek yes indeed this man was as /ourguy/ as they come. Too bad he died before converting, what a shame. I'll make a few new quotes of him today since we're not paying too much attention to him. Also: >Rothbard vilified women's rights activists, attributing the growth of the welfare state to politically active spinsters ""whose busybody inclinations were not fettered by the responsibilities of health and heart"". Rothbard had pointed out in his 'Origins of the Welfare State' that progressives had evolved from elitist Gilded Age pietist Protestants that wanted to bring a secularized version of millennialism under a welfare state, which was spearheaded by a ""shock troop of Yankee protestant and Jewish women and lesbian spinsters.""[80] >Rothbard held strong opinions about many leaders of the civil rights movement. He considered black separatist Malcolm X to be a ""great black leader"" and integrationist Martin Luther King to be favored by whites because he ""was the major restraining force on the developing Negro revolution.""[5][page needed] Rothbard praised Malcolm X for ""acting white"" through use of his intellect and wit, and contrasted him favorably with the ""fraudulent intellectual with a rococo Black Baptist minister style, ""Dr."" King"". But while he compared Malcolm X's black nationalism favorably to King's integrationism, and for a time praised black nationalism,[84] in 1993 he rejected the vision of a ""separate black nation"", asking ""does anyone really believe that ... New Africa would be content to strike out on its own, with no massive ""foreign aid"" from the U.S.A.?""",,Anonymous,Rothbard Quote 1.png,0NO8AwYzWpHehpVOryXxSw==,PT,,1493982460 124193570,124211439,2017-05-05 11:08:26,">>124210993 It's the natural order, people want to defend their property instinctually.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493982506 124193570,124211529,2017-05-05 11:09:22,">>124211439 >It's the natural order, people want to defend their property instinctually. prove it using genetic studies",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493982562 124193570,124211806,2017-05-05 11:11:55,"> Rothbard characterized the revisionist task as ""penetrating the fog of lies and deception of the State and its Court Intellectuals, and to present to the public the true history"".[99] He was influenced by and called a champion of the historian Harry Elmer Barnes, a Holocaust denier.[99][100][101] Rothbard endorsed Barnes's revisionism on World War II, favorably citing his view that ""the murder of Germans and Japanese was the overriding aim of World War II"". In addition to broadly supporting his historical views, Rothbard promoted Barnes as an influence for future revisionists.[102] >Rothbard advocated right-wing populism in part because he was frustrated that mainstream thinkers were not adopting the libertarian view and suggested that former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke and Wisconsin U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy were models for an ""Outreach to the Rednecks"" effort that could be used by a broad libertarian/paleoconservative coalition. Working together, the paleo coalition would expose the ""unholy alliance of 'corporate liberal' Big Business and media elites >Rothbard noted that David Duke's substantive political program in a Louisiana governor's race had ""nothing"" in it that ""could not also be embraced by paleoconservatives or paleo-libertarians; lower taxes, dismantling the bureaucracy, slashing the welfare system, attacking affirmative action and racial set-asides, calling for equal rights for all Americans, including whites."" >Rothbard called for the elimination of ""the entire 'civil rights' structure"" stating that it ""tramples on the property rights of every American."" He consistently favored repeal of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, including Title VII regarded employment discrimination[81] and called for overturning the Brown v. Board of Education decision on the grounds that forced integration of schools was aggressive.",,Anonymous,Rothbard Quote 2.png,FPpUuGE43us6G3z+5DuHaQ==,PT,,1493982715 124193570,124211826,2017-05-05 11:12:09,">>124210993 >Feudalism was based on the exchange of land for military service. King William the Conqueror used the concept of feudalism to reward his Norman supporters for their help in the conquest of England. Life lived under the Medieval Feudal System, or Feudalism, demanded that everyone owed allegiance to the King and their immediate superior. It's not feudalism at all. The private militias would be founded on a voluntary action on the part of the militants. They would be able to leave whenever they please without suffering coercion",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493982729 124193570,124211862,2017-05-05 11:12:28,">>124211439 Sure but im unconvinced you can defend your decentralised property against nations and superstates. You would need coalitions but even then, as seen during the rise of the French nation vs the various European feudal lord coalition and their private armies, Napoleon still rolled over them to the point where the Lords themselves had to collective to challenge a centralised France.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493982748 124193570,124211994,2017-05-05 11:13:56,">>124211373 >in 1993 he rejected the vision of a ""separate black nation"", asking ""does anyone really believe that ... New Africa would be content to strike out on its own, with no massive ""foreign aid"" from the U.S.A.? fucking kek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493982836 124193570,124212157,2017-05-05 11:15:25,">>124211529 Survival is dependent on resources (i.e. property). Humans and all other animals have an innate desire to survive, as explained by Darwin's theory of evolution. Therefore people innately want to defend their property. No genetic studies required",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493982925 124193570,124212301,2017-05-05 11:16:42,">>124208675 I remember once in a dream seeing a portuguese flag where the green was black, and the red was yellow and the shield was replaced by a different shield from a car manufacturer I think (it was triangular, dark blue with a ligher blue triangles inside it), this flag was on a pole at some tiny observation-post like house somewhere on a nordic Island of sorts.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1493983002 124193570,124212460,2017-05-05 11:18:36,">>124212157 >No genetic studies required leftists will ask for studies and if what you are saying is true it should be easy to replicate studies",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493983116 124193570,124212465,2017-05-05 11:18:38,">>124212301 Strange as hell Sven.",,Anonymous,Portugal Ancap.jpg,Tv0kuxhoAux++N1hDW85tw==,PT,,1493983118 124193570,124212812,2017-05-05 11:22:26,">>124208675 >>124209003 >>124209032 >>124209065 >>124209094 >>124209135 >>124209258 >>124209464 >>124209494 >>124209527 >>124209584 >>124209641 >>124209705 >>124209745 >>124209772 BASED",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493983346 124193570,124213374,2017-05-05 11:28:16,">>124212465 Ayy, except it looked like pic related that I just made. The shield should be less autistic but you get the idea.",,Anonymous,Autistic dream flag.png,cmP+bM37P9rY0kQkJs5Gfg==,SE,,1493983696 124193570,124213457,2017-05-05 11:29:06,">>124202748 Chicago boys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493983746 124193570,124214115,2017-05-05 11:34:59,">>124212460 True.Leftists reject reason; give them reasons why socialism doesn't work and they won't believe you until reality hits them in the face",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493984099 124193570,124214430,2017-05-05 11:37:45,">>124213457 they were keynesian lite and not free market",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493984265 124193570,124214557,2017-05-05 11:38:51,anime OC,,Anonymous,1493754560483.png,SoP5d3E8mNpq9UkRDRPqPA==,CA,,1493984331 124193570,124214621,2017-05-05 11:39:26,Who else is prepping for the upcoming economic collapse so we can finally kill commies?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493984366 124193570,124214724,2017-05-05 11:40:20,">>124206036 >I'm gonna call you a faggot trap-lover everyday until you change your nihilo-Libertarian ways. thats fine at least I contribute to libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493984420 124193570,124215025,2017-05-05 11:43:13,">>124214724 >Implying I don't.",,Anonymous,Flag.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1493984593 124193570,124215081,2017-05-05 11:43:37,">>124206222 >warlords I posted this in the last thread, but here it is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ak3TwNXA0w There seems to be this misconception that all anarchies, all stateless environments, will behave the same. Murphy makes the point in the above video that a proper ancapistan would be comprised of anarchists, not of statists. You are correct to observe that young men in, say, Syria or Somalia, would be willing to join the local faction and commit violence, because they are statists. This is especially the case in those countries because of the powerful influence of Islam, a filthy socialist, theocratic religion. A muslim cannot be an anarchist, and so there can be no proper anarchy in Islamic regions. For a truly prosperous ancap society to come into existence, physical removal must be implemented, so to speak. Loser NEETs like muslims and commies would need to be kept out or else killed to prevent statists from using them to take hold.",,Anonymous,RWDSwave.png,lAJp3EspWKKcaoSIc3mMBg==,US,,1493984617 124193570,124215290,2017-05-05 11:45:20,"FREE MARKET DEATH SQUADS",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493984720 124193570,124215351,2017-05-05 11:45:49,">>124210803 correct",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493984749 124193570,124215467,2017-05-05 11:46:45,Is so cringeworthy watching you guys try to work through your cognitive dissonance and make ancap/libertarianism seem strong like fascism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493984805 124193570,124215658,2017-05-05 11:48:24,">>124215467 fascism was never really strong",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493984904 124193570,124215686,2017-05-05 11:48:37,">>124215467 Maybe if you listened to reason for once you'd understand",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493984917 124193570,124215846,2017-05-05 11:50:07,">>124215467 >strong like fascism Free markets have happened for centuries, fascism crumbled in less than a generation.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493985007 124193570,124215928,2017-05-05 11:50:48,">>124215081 it's not only religious,it's also racial blacks are the most collectivist race in the fucking world,in black African tribes if you have something of value you MUST share it with everyone,and if you are smart enough to keep it for yourself you would be SHUNNED in public and it's evolve in violence,this is the reasons why they ask so much more gibs",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493985048 124193570,124215992,2017-05-05 11:51:29,">>124215467 Yeah those manlets with hipster haircuts are real strong.",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,AIQW3uqtSL5RHYBchVPkfA==,US,,1493985089 124193570,124216137,2017-05-05 11:52:39,">>124215467 >fascism >strong",,Anonymous,Death-of-Mussolini.jpg,UsNtWOwwuUcjueDkr20UMQ==,US,,1493985159 124193570,124216819,2017-05-05 11:58:54,">>124215658 Its the modernized form of monarchy, the most succesful system ever created. >>124215686 Everyone thinks they are reasonable, you don't have the monopoly on that. >>124215846 a libertarian/ancap society has never, nor will ever, exist. Pure free markets also have never existed. >>124215992 As opposed to the tall well dressed libertarians? Don't make me play the libertarian convention. >>124216137 Anarchists are vermin. I see politics as a spectrum, you folks share the opposition of heirachy and caste in common with the communists",,Anonymous,JjcJ8GE.png,AOcnOPeVDurSAen3/GS8JA==,US,,1493985534 124193570,124217373,2017-05-05 12:03:46,">>124216819 >Libertarian Party You must be new to /lrg/",,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1493985826 124193570,124217404,2017-05-05 12:04:07,">>124216819 >Its the modernized form of monarchy, the most succesful system ever created. any respectful monarchist like Charles Maurras (even though he takes Proudhon's work seriously) would laugh at you,Monarchy is a god given right with caste system while Fascism is populism with an illegitimate tyran",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493985847 124193570,124217789,2017-05-05 12:07:39,">>124217404 red pill me on Charles Maurras. Is he worth reading?",,Anonymous,The-Future-of-the-Intelligentsia-for-a-French-Awakening-0.jpg,AuKeIbURsrQf7gdco/GE+g==,PT,,1493986059 124193570,124217872,2017-05-05 12:08:23,"what do you guys think about this? >>124213284",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1493986103 124193570,124217918,2017-05-05 12:08:51,">Ancaps want to sell kids for profit not ditribute them equally LOL ANCOMS WIN AGAIN ANCAPS BTFO!!!!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493986131 124193570,124218286,2017-05-05 12:12:11,">>124217872 N O T H I N G W R O N G",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1493986331 124193570,124218340,2017-05-05 12:12:37,">>124217872 Personally I do not put so much value in cuisine that I would ban it to preserve the aesthetics of my community. That sounds ludicrous to me. However, I think that the venetian people are within their rights to decide what types of food can and cannot be sold in their city.",,Anonymous,deathcap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1493986357 124193570,124218357,2017-05-05 12:12:51,">>124217872 Great.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493986371 124193570,124218373,2017-05-05 12:12:57,">>124217404 Murras? The guy who adored and collaborated with fascist vichy france? That guy? kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493986377 124193570,124218562,2017-05-05 12:14:39,Read the bread book x,,Anonymous,d97a6390c2f34f2989ca41625f1ae308ddf458b4fef22221a3e89b199734a36b.jpg,8w9HHUoa0kS+yh8Skh7mKw==,GB,,1493986479 124193570,124218660,2017-05-05 12:15:28,">>124218340 this",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493986528 124193570,124218808,2017-05-05 12:16:46,">>124218562 *puts you in a helicopter*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493986606 124193570,124218922,2017-05-05 12:17:47,How insane is it that actual ideological violence like the Spanish Civil War has been replaced by autistic LARPing and online shitposting on all sides?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1493986667 124193570,124218980,2017-05-05 12:18:19,">>124204743 Lords of the Free Market suck at marketing >No one likes snakes >Cowardly yellow >Lefties hate Capitalism >Everyone hates """"""""Anarchy"""""""" >Anime >Edgy empty threats >Discrimination, segregation, equality, charity bad even though every normie bases their morality on it >Call everyone evil >Spend hours on bullshit questions and lifeboat scenarios >Poor Y'all have the solution to the world's problems and you look like faggots. Step up the marketing game.",,Anonymous,tit.png,AaeL/xEqnNkE62wnvTh2zA==,US,,1493986699 124193570,124219069,2017-05-05 12:19:05,">>124218808 Bit rude la' unironically kina like libertarians and ancaps",,Anonymous,2d7cb95c4ab5b83e6ad6e4cd991a3542650458740cff8bbfeac77882859a229d.gif,48OG5/+6gzoJq3433L2F2A==,GB,,1493986745 124193570,124219414,2017-05-05 12:22:16,">>124218373 >Murras? The guy who adored and collaborated with fascist vichy france? you know jack shit,he hated any collaborationist media for ""germanophilia"" because he hated Krauts with no remorse and he saw Hitler as a retarded barbarian who had no class and culture,he still supported Vichy's France because it was not a democracy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493986936 124193570,124219585,2017-05-05 12:23:59,">>124208940 >Also add that if he doesn't believe property rights exist and that humans cannot own property then he has no business in using his standing room, his brain and his vocal chords to form an argument against self ownership and private property. will do. Maybe I'll make a youtube channelor website explaining our movement. I'll provide the link on /lrg/ if I get it done",,Anonymous,1492126263095.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,CA,,1493987039 124193570,124219603,2017-05-05 12:24:12,">>124193570 >not a single mention of Nozick. faggots",,Anonymous,george.jpg,9F1e22wS1ENHBvjYLLegZQ==,ZA,,1493987052 124193570,124219855,2017-05-05 12:26:17,">""i'm a happy libertarian!"" >""i'm a wealthy jew, and i bought the resources you need and raised the price 600%"" >""i'm not a happy libertarian anymore :("" And so began the story of Ron Paul the NADSI",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1493987177 124193570,124219858,2017-05-05 12:26:18,">>124219414 Being anti-german isn't being anti-fascist you triggered baguette. He liked fascism he just didn't like germans. >>124218980 This is why we natsocs keep winning.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493987178 124193570,124219963,2017-05-05 12:27:10,">>124218980 With regards to >Everyone hates """"""""Anarchy"""""""" I'm with you on that. I think Hoppe's preferred term is private law, which in addition to being more accurate to our doctrine, sounds more palatable than anarchy. Would the concrete noun of private law be ""private legalist"" then? >>124219603 Yeah, he'd be a worthy addition to the /lrg/ pepes. Read up, my dudes: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=85C9C274E6A566D9963A0EFD945B7171",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493987230 124193570,124220046,2017-05-05 12:27:59,">>124199037 Oh you read the ""all forms of feminism were bad"" picture, too. Remember, there are two axis. Libertarians were always considered socially left-leaning (less government control over personal lives) and fiscally right-leaning (less government control over the economy). This way no matter what anyone can say libertarians are on the opposite side of the spectrum. This doesn't stop families and communities from forming (if you're broke where else do you have to turn to than your family and community?). Simply abolishing the welfare state probably makes us socially right-leaning, but you can be individualistic and diverge from the norm if you can afford it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493987279 124193570,124220456,2017-05-05 12:31:34,">>124195354 >killing free labor absolutely haram",,Transcendental Curve,,,US,,1493987494 124193570,124220750,2017-05-05 12:33:54,">>124217789 he was for an enforced caste system for the high graded place in the government but was for decentralization because centralized bureaucracy is against tradition He saw the king as the legitimate ""daddy"" because democracy leads to division Great as a reactionary writer >>124219858 >« C'est la naïveté courante. Ceux qui la formulent et la propagent innocemment ne se rendent pas compte qu'une action d'ordre et de progrès comme celle du fascisme italien suppose une base solide et stable, que la Monarchie fournit et qu'un certain degré d'aristocratie, ou, si l'on veut, d'antidémocratie doit encore la soutenir » since you're not french,for him fascism is shit because it's system only works in short term,also he noted that he was against totalitarianism and it was one of the main reasons he saw fascism more like an ""useful ally against democracy"" than anything",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1493987634 124193570,124221153,2017-05-05 12:37:29,">>124219858 >NatSoc >Winning anything Wew you got my noodle thinking",,Anonymous,1484719950551.png,IRYyyIX2YABY9NiMlnmTeg==,US,,1493987849 124193570,124221272,2017-05-05 12:38:28,">>124219585 Thanks senpai, keep in touch.",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1493987908 124193570,124221587,2017-05-05 12:41:18,">>124221153 Perhaps one is in the white house",,Anonymous,69trump.png,PBgMZtz5CusLwjVq8Fn6xg==,US,,1493988078 124193570,124221623,2017-05-05 12:41:30,">NC House Passed HB 330 – Allowing Drivers To Legally Drive Through Protesters Who Block Roads Already 4 states embraced ideology of getting killed for violating the NAP. East coast = soon to be libertarian paradise.",,Anonymous,55Mw22bPovE.jpg,BBzm257BI+24cZwTNsFFbg==,US,,1493988090 124193570,124222056,2017-05-05 12:45:06,>>124193570,,Anonymous,Blink 182 - Dude Ranch Front.jpg,AmMJGI3qDMtjHO6s4oCxjg==,US,,1493988306 124193570,124222402,2017-05-05 12:48:00,">>124221623 Time to trade in my helicopter!",,Anonymous,8steamroller-poly-v.png,gTAjX7jcFzKWiG02F62slQ==,US,,1493988480 124193570,124222513,2017-05-05 12:49:04,">>124218562 Rothbard fucking DESTROYED this commie faggot. Honestly your idol reads like a delusional child, and I mean that with all sincerity.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493988544 124193570,124222583,2017-05-05 12:49:42,">>124222056 Blink 182 is gay as fuck. Based smut peddlers is the punk band of choice for lrg.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493988582 124193570,124222917,2017-05-05 12:52:02,">>124220750 I see. I'll look into it; I don't think there's any philosophy or ideology better than Hoppean Libertarianism, it's the final boss of right-wing politics, but I'll start to read more monarchist books and the likes.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493988722 124193570,124223742,2017-05-05 12:59:42,">>124222513 um no sweetie x",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493989182 124193570,124224997,2017-05-05 13:11:43,">>124223742 The working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods. You are already getting your bread. lmao leftists",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493989903 124193570,124225937,2017-05-05 13:20:53,">>124224997 It doesn't literally mean that >a fucking leaf",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493990453 124193570,124226646,2017-05-05 13:27:32,"https://www.cosaction.com/ Thoughts on this burgers? It's time to take the federal government to the back of the barn.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493990852 124193570,124228497,2017-05-05 13:43:38,"MACRONGATE IS REAL >>124227512 DONT LET IT SLIDE >>124227512 PROOF THE MEDIA'S ""PROOF THIS IS FAKE"" IS BS >>124227512 MACRONGATE IS REAL >>124227512 DONT LET IT SLIDE >>124227512 PROOF THE MEDIA'S ""PROOF THIS IS FAKE"" IS BS >>124227512",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1493991818 124193570,124229652,2017-05-05 13:53:31,,,Anonymous,helicopter (2).png,A2Sf2d3PuRTCPfHDRBBiRg==,US,,1493992411 124193570,124229887,2017-05-05 13:55:27,">>124193818 As long as it isn't funded involuntarily.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493992527 124193570,124230978,2017-05-05 14:04:10,"any instances of lr actually working? somalia isn't an answer",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1493993050 124193570,124231372,2017-05-05 14:07:20,where is the brit anon who said he was making a lr site?,,Anonymous,,,IN,,1493993240 124193570,124232714,2017-05-05 14:18:09,">>124230978 Everyday with free markets, voluntary social cooperation, charities, private clubs, etc. Essentially everything that escapes governmental power. And the libertarian right website that Britbro did is already up: http://www.libertarianright.org/ You must light the torch of Liberty and right wing death squads in your country Pajeet. Do it for us. Do it.",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1493993889 124193570,124232866,2017-05-05 14:19:38,">>124229652 Nice ass image, saved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493993978 124193570,124233017,2017-05-05 14:21:15,">>124232714 Sadly, I don't see lr happening in India. Thanks for the site link",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1493994075 124193570,124233258,2017-05-05 14:23:19,">>124232866 Thanks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493994199 124193570,124233358,2017-05-05 14:24:10,">>124226646 Looks good, never heard of these folks tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493994250 124193570,124233774,2017-05-05 14:27:46,"You guys are alright, theres one or two faggy cucks among you but you're pretty cool for the most part.",,Anonymous,1486775496029.png,1zksC+DiOZCzK0movLFyoQ==,US,,1493994466 124193570,124234014,2017-05-05 14:30:04,">>124201145 This. What term should I use to describe myself?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493994604 124193570,124234519,2017-05-05 14:34:51,">>124233774 Kek, are you talking about Canada and Brazil? >>124234014 I'm a libertarian who cares about my people. The term doesn't matter to me much but I might fit under, Reactionary libertarian, Paleolibertarian, or for autism lulz Anarcho-fascist.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1493994891 124193570,124236979,2017-05-05 14:56:58,"Bump, what happened guys? Did me saying Anarcho-facsism make everyone cringe the fuck outta this thread?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493996218 124193570,124237011,2017-05-05 14:57:17,does turning my town into a druggie shithole violate the nap?,,Anonymous,,,JO,,1493996237 124193570,124237186,2017-05-05 14:58:43,">>124236979 nah senpai we're good. be free to form your own fascist communities in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493996323 124193570,124237367,2017-05-05 15:00:18,">>124193570 >DO NOT POST IN SNEK THREADS >DO NOT REPLY TO SNEK POSTERS >DO SAGE AND HIDE SNEK THREADS",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1493996418 124193570,124237962,2017-05-05 15:05:34,">>124237011 Nah, but don't expect your degenerate hamlet to prosper very much. >>124237367 Lol no",,Anonymous,hopper.png,pIgAdJvpGAMA/mdAZbYiDw==,US,,1493996734 124193570,124238514,2017-05-05 15:10:40,god bless you libertarians,,Anonymous,51ffeb5ec08bfec93eb3046667a3ddcb1d5e32d213cd35d44fa7e91353cb736a.jpg,DMfBC15l8XFQCXjd6L1XHQ==,AT,,1493997040 124193570,124239415,2017-05-05 15:18:47,">>124238514 god bless you too",,Anonymous,1492305323936.jpg,mFOETM2O0LoKKD1AtZdYUg==,CA,,1493997527 124193570,124240512,2017-05-05 15:28:33,">>124238514 We have your nation to thank for our core school of economic thought.",,Anonymous,lrg.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1493998113 124193570,124241431,2017-05-05 15:36:27,">>124202544 >When you stop paying attention to the low-hanging fruit of the left and start seriously contemplating what scholars have written I remember the first time I read Marx and thought I was a political guru. ""Opiate of the masses"" is really good for seeing the hyper Americanized Christianity for the farce that it is, but all of his economic theories were pure projection of his inability to generate revenue for himself through hard work. Anyone who has worked up through the ranks of employment into a business owner can see that his economic terminology was based on pure jealousy.",,Anonymous,6c70391483b5c5094863842c3d9553e46d7baed6a00bf88cd1dca41d3948e727.gif,eLKw7F1YmUzrV/TqEXWvwg==,US,,1493998587 124193570,124241511,2017-05-05 15:37:06,">>124238514 And thank you Austria for being the home of the von Mises brothers and of Carl Menger, bom Bawerk, etc.",,Anonymous,great austrian minds.png,V6MFunytZh+SZ158PI780w==,PT,,1493998626 124193570,124242176,2017-05-05 15:42:36,Best threads,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1493998956 124193570,124243061,2017-05-05 15:50:12,">>124237367 Bump.",,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,US,,1493999412 124193570,124243288,2017-05-05 15:52:13,are there any good libertarian politicians in US of A?,,Anonymous,,,IN,,1493999533 124193570,124243394,2017-05-05 15:53:16,">>124243288 Ron Paul Rand Paul Thomas Massie",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1493999596 124193570,124243626,2017-05-05 15:55:04,,,Anonymous,1490191958396.png,HHULeUtWGXWzu3SdUfgSLQ==,CA,,1493999704 124193570,124243636,2017-05-05 15:55:10,"What's some /libertariancore/ music that I can listen to. Revolutionary war fife and drum?",,Anonymous,1471237957154.png,LehdtIghZqAI+NsgpjVsdA==,GB,,1493999710 124193570,124243886,2017-05-05 15:57:19,">>124243636 Battle Hymn of the Republic An American Trilogy by Elvis Presley Confederate music Johnny Rebel and above all H O P P E W A V E",,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1493999839 124193570,124243957,2017-05-05 15:58:06,">>124243636 I think any music that reflects individualism could be considered libertarian core. For some reason the genre that comes to my mind is classic rock",,Anonymous,1490843757390.jpg,gfYDVGzWkaILXGUXDQcyJA==,CA,,1493999886 124193570,124243998,2017-05-05 15:58:34,">>124241431 >marx was an unproductive shitlord >ideology was based on jealousy Hm, that accurately describes literally all of his followers...",,Anonymous,lazy ass.png,suMLwP8Jcct6urMIp04i4w==,US,,1493999914 124193570,124244051,2017-05-05 15:59:04,">>124243886 >H O P P E W A V E this especially",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1493999944 124193570,124244250,2017-05-05 16:00:54,">>124243636 Harry Pollitt - the Limeliters Capitalism - Oingo Boingo Taxman - the Beatles",,Anonymous,[removal intensifies].jpg,Grw9oJ1492NpHa45Q6f97g==,US,,1494000054 124193570,124244609,2017-05-05 16:03:54,">>124243636 Don't Tread On Me - Metallica",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494000234 124193570,124244675,2017-05-05 16:04:27,,,Anonymous,1490467159176.png,KBFOZoVIXQaog2Kdwm/ZBA==,CA,,1494000267 124193570,124245755,2017-05-05 16:14:32,,,Anonymous,1490869715238.png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,CA,,1494000872 124193570,124245814,2017-05-05 16:14:58,"Ancap and libertarian reading list? Also couple questions in an ancap society how would you stop monopolies coming into effect and big businesses taking over other small businesses? And what advantages does ancapism/libertarianism provide to me?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494000898 124193570,124245916,2017-05-05 16:15:56,">>124245814 I should say provide to me as an average worker compared to socialism or anarcho communism?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494000956 124193570,124245926,2017-05-05 16:16:03,,,Anonymous,1490868595080.png,ZJUzc6WPaHObMTxjZmkz+Q==,CA,,1494000963 124193570,124246445,2017-05-05 16:20:58,">>124241431 Wew start arguing anytime",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494001258 124193570,124246567,2017-05-05 16:22:03,">>124245814 >how would you stop monopolies coming into effect and big businesses taking over other small businesses? No regulations on the marketplace except the non-aggression principle and the respect for private property rights. There would be free entry into all lines of production to everyone; monopolies would be impossible to arise since there is no state conceding a particular company monopoly rights. >And what advantages does ancapism/libertarianism provide to me? You own the entirety of your body (more personal freedoms) and you'll have a wide variety of cheap products and services because of all the wealth creation.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494001323 124193570,124246632,2017-05-05 16:22:41,">>124243636 There's some ancap metal band thats been posted here before but they're a bit to gay for my taste. my primary degeneracy is trashy punk rock and metal as long as it isn't leftist. My favorite Right wing punk band is the smut peddlers. Some more political songs they make are Global Village, sniper wanted, riot on the pier. Also check out h o p p e w a v e.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494001361 124193570,124247024,2017-05-05 16:26:13,">>124245814 See the stickies and pic related. >How would you stop monopolies coming into effect and big businesses taking over other small businesses? A monopoly can only really exist if competition is legislated out of existence, as is the case in single-payer healthcare systems. A powerful company could buy out other ones, sure, but there would be nothing stopping the weaker companies from refusing such deals, nor would there be anything stopping new companies from springing up to capitalize on a shitty monopoly. >What advantages does ancapism/libertarianism provide to me as an average worker compared to socialism/ancommunism? You can work as you please without being subject to non-negotiable laws made by a non-working elite. Rather than being forced to join a union to be employed and abide by the union's terms (also non-negotiable, essentially), you, the individual, get to negotiate your own terms with your employer.",,Anonymous,ancap studies.jpg,SnEQCTcPv+EPuDYiCg+3CQ==,US,,1494001573 124193570,124247358,2017-05-05 16:29:20,">>124237962 what if i just wanna sell heroine for cost price to school kids?",,Anonymous,,,JO,,1494001760 124193570,124247554,2017-05-05 16:31:11,"Dr. Kevin Macdonald is doing an AMA on Voat at 5:00 pm eastern! Get your questions ready so that he can answer them! https://voat.co/v/Identitarian/1840010",,Anonymous,10.jpg,0xVh3dT32InZzxEHFsYY8w==,CA,,1494001871 124193570,124248379,2017-05-05 16:38:01,,,Anonymous,g9u.jpg,sNLG2g0UWgrDqghzO/4gsw==,US,,1494002281 124193570,124248665,2017-05-05 16:40:49,"Dr. Kevin Macdonald is doing an AMA on Voat at 5:00 pm eastern! Get your questions ready so that he can answer them!4 https://voat.co/v/Identitarian/1840010",,Anonymous,11.jpg,K/6ddDifj4umuicsvLoicw==,CA,,1494002449 124193570,124248711,2017-05-05 16:41:14,">>124247358 Depends on where you do that, but in all likelihood, you'd be physically removed by the locals.",,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1494002474 124193570,124249784,2017-05-05 16:50:45,,,Anonymous,1490197813819.jpg,fCXtH7m0Mu09TwJ143IgcQ==,CA,,1494003045 124193570,124250006,2017-05-05 16:52:35,">>124249784 wrong pic",,Anonymous,1491990228931.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,CA,,1494003155 124193570,124250396,2017-05-05 16:56:09,">>124250006 I still think Hoppe's skin color is a bit more whitish.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494003369 124193570,124250410,2017-05-05 16:56:15,">>124249784 Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494003375 124193570,124250630,2017-05-05 16:58:06,">>124250396 Yeah when I made that image I did it all on one layer so I can't recolor him. I wanted to make his clothes lighter too. Oh well. Maybe I'll redraw it one of these days.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494003486 124193570,124251435,2017-05-05 17:05:01,">>124220456 Commies are lazy and skinnyfat, how much work do you think they could do? Just the overhead of running a Private Voluntary Labor Camp™ would justify the helicopter rides.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494003901 124193570,124251697,2017-05-05 17:07:24,">>124250630 No problems mate.",,Anonymous,commie drop.png,16lXUiJDa1n0cALqemu3nw==,PT,,1494004044 124193570,124251830,2017-05-05 17:08:35,">>124193570 Anyone can recommend some good libertarian music?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1494004115 124193570,124252214,2017-05-05 17:12:04,">>124193901 right in the allende",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1494004324 124193570,124252218,2017-05-05 17:12:08,">>124251830 See the replys to >>124243636",,Anonymous,1491774328231_0.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1494004328 124193570,124252331,2017-05-05 17:13:01,no step on snek,,Anonymous,snek.jpg,quCg78awigse66Cqx2F7LQ==,GB,,1494004381 124193570,124252361,2017-05-05 17:13:13,">>124252218 I'm a dumbass",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1494004393 124193570,124253002,2017-05-05 17:19:10,How do I improve this?,,Anonymous,1493852273523.png,ySiKCLu8CbQcOPj/AHJEBw==,US,,1494004750 124193570,124253362,2017-05-05 17:22:20,So are you guys just Libertarians or Anarcho Capitalists or a mix,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494004940 124193570,124253367,2017-05-05 17:22:22,">>124252331 >tfw eating some pussy that stepped in my property",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494004942 124193570,124253408,2017-05-05 17:22:45,">>124253002 I got a shitty result on that quiz Lookup the spekr quiz for more capitalist leaning and the RightRealist quiz if you're edgy enough.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494004965 124193570,124253460,2017-05-05 17:23:13,">>124217404 Better the Fascist state with a chance of success than a Monarchy doomed to fail.",,Anonymous,1464647527675.jpg,ukeZEWTt6fuHVIfFAWH5hg==,US,,1494004993 124193570,124253609,2017-05-05 17:24:24,">>124253460 >statist cuck",,Anonymous,ewww.jpg,rd6Wm/o+skxpiDpJHjvoFw==,GB,,1494005064 124193570,124254035,2017-05-05 17:28:03,">>124253362 The most vocal group here is Anarcho-Capitalist, but there's many libertarians, minarchists and Nazis who like Ron Paul here too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494005283 124193570,124254205,2017-05-05 17:29:32,>>124193570,,Anonymous,ancap wet dream.png,2dsHfR5x1eQhJTaQwHd/2Q==,US,,1494005372 124193570,124254391,2017-05-05 17:31:08,">>124253408 >spekr I did that but I don't think I saved the picture. I got Minarchist though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494005468 124193570,124254691,2017-05-05 17:33:47,">>124253460 Why not the other way around?",,Anonymous,Erik_von_Kuehnelt-Leddihn.jpg,g9eN4ZjgGXZ++Dc00bERTA==,PT,,1494005627 124193570,124254704,2017-05-05 17:33:54,">>124254391 Minarchist is pretty good my dude, you have no excuses not to kill commies with the state apparatus.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494005634 124193570,124254755,2017-05-05 17:34:23,">>124254205 What's the black dot on the die?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494005663 124193570,124254933,2017-05-05 17:36:03,">>124254755 Looks like some Jamal or Tyrone. >>124254391 Yeah minarchist is decent, you'll have helicopter rides, but no private death squads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494005763 124193570,124255205,2017-05-05 17:38:20,">>124254704 >>124254933 Oh looks like I did have it saved actually. >different ID's because I was phoneposting earlier",,Anonymous,Minarchist.png,DNH45ddkHpYodh+n9K/yMQ==,US,,1494005900 124193570,124256345,2017-05-05 17:47:33,">>124255205 Economic: 96 Cultural: -92 Keep in mind the Cultural part is about anarcho-capitalism in general. Hippity hoppity but not on MY property and all that.",,Anonymous,1.png,T8V9dZ/px2vSy8SoWDEyug==,PT,,1494006453 124193570,124256532,2017-05-05 17:49:12,">>124256345 I never know how to answer these. Should I be pragmatic or idealistic?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494006552 124193570,124256702,2017-05-05 17:50:30,">>124256532 I answer idealistically, according to the ancap theory. If I were to answer based on what my covenant would look like, it would be Economic 100, Cultural 30 or 40. Maximum economic freedom, physical removal of degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494006630 124193570,124256829,2017-05-05 17:51:39,New thread needed,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494006699 124193570,124256887,2017-05-05 17:52:10,">>124256829 I'll host.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494006730 124193570,124257485,2017-05-05 17:57:02,">>124202544 This.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494007022 124257111,124257111,2017-05-05 17:53:55,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - 2 COOL 4 ROADS EDITION,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,US,,1494006835 124257111,124257700,2017-05-05 17:58:55,"filling out a spekr quiz, post yours mates.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494007135 124257111,124257776,2017-05-05 17:59:39,">>124257111 we're all asleep now m8",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494007179 124257111,124258191,2017-05-05 18:02:56,">>124257776 >europeans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494007376 124257111,124259371,2017-05-05 18:12:48,"Could Anarcho-Capitalism be described as a form of soft eugenics, rather than the hard eugenics of a NatSoc state? There's no doubt that those with poor genetics are placed at a clear disadvantage in Ancapistan. Possession of a lower IQ means being less resourceful of their abilities, and being less able to make good long-term decisions unaided by a state. However, instead of being executed on the spot or eliminated from the gene pool artificially, they would suffer financial hardship and gradually become less prevalent as those with better genes gather more resources than them. Really in this manner AnCaps and NatSocs share the same product: purer, superior genes over time just not by the force of man imposed on others, but the force of man imposing on himself in absolute freedom. Thoughts? Pretty sure Hoppe might addressed already, but I'm still working through his books.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494007968 124257111,124259524,2017-05-05 18:14:01,>>124257111,,Anonymous,18222697_446415042375856_6537897684247385991_n.png.jpg,//3OJyu0WZPKWhG2U7xEXw==,US,,1494008041 124257111,124259605,2017-05-05 18:14:43,">>124257700 p feisty >>124259371 anarcho capitalism is the natural order so natural selection of genes should occur",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170502-001159~2.png,m2WIFH+CDYOr4cB3nI1fCA==,GB,,1494008083 124257111,124259777,2017-05-05 18:16:10,"almost pure, I didn't want to be fair to other nations in trade because I'm too racist.",,Anonymous,spekr.png,+6sVUhK85QA1d7LwtKkZjQ==,US,,1494008170 124257111,124259903,2017-05-05 18:17:15,">>124259777 Teach me, senpai.",,Anonymous,Minarchist.png,DNH45ddkHpYodh+n9K/yMQ==,US,,1494008235 124257111,124260101,2017-05-05 18:18:49,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494008329 124257111,124260143,2017-05-05 18:19:11,">>124259777 checked >road in captcha",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170505-231853.png,r0sqXYNCrEj+Bz7+VI/wxg==,GB,,1494008351 124257111,124260218,2017-05-05 18:19:48,,,Anonymous,112342354.jpg,ULlDwqBBOzvtBK8tXL/2AQ==,GB,,1494008388 124257111,124260274,2017-05-05 18:20:16,">>124257111 So who build the roads in an Anarcho-Capitalism society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494008416 124257111,124260365,2017-05-05 18:20:56,">>124259371 That's exactly what it is. I couldn't have put it better myself. I don't think most ancaps see the passive eugenics of the free market as NatSocs see the forced extermination of ""inferiors"", since the former simply state that the market rewards goods and punishes bads, without ever hindering freedom, while the latter are more concerned is forcefully eliminating inferiores based on subjective evaluations of a specific government. What books of him are you reading?",,Anonymous,hoppe expulsion.png,MYXxcYpUYsv/VE/vI3UFRw==,PT,,1494008456 124257111,124260670,2017-05-05 18:23:16,">>124259371 It's likely that would be the case, charity would definitely exist in an ancapistan, which might give a helping hand to the lesser productive people. but theres no knowing how prevalent it would be. My impression however is that capitalists are pretty charitable. >>124260274 Filthy commie, building roads is a NAP aggression. >>124259903 just answer yes to the ""is child slavery legitimate?"" question and you'll be where i am.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494008596 124257111,124260687,2017-05-05 18:23:23,">>124260274 Your mom",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1494008603 124257111,124260719,2017-05-05 18:23:39,">>124260687 fuggin rekt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494008619 124257111,124260731,2017-05-05 18:23:44,Why does the libertarian right section of political compass memes always get the best laugh out of me?,,Anonymous,aG1x4b6_700b.jpg,zV+w8Cfu6Kto8kn4H/pQ4w==,US,,1494008624 124257111,124260810,2017-05-05 18:24:25,">>124260687 Hi Bashar!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494008665 124257111,124260899,2017-05-05 18:25:04,">>124260365 You know the one, portugalbro :)",,Anonymous,1489061250065.png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,US,,1494008704 124257111,124260977,2017-05-05 18:25:38,">>124260731 The Libertarian Right is behind all the good memes, even nazi memes and anti-ancap strawman memes are made by us.",,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1494008738 124257111,124261141,2017-05-05 18:26:57,">>124260899 Fuggin noice bro",,Anonymous,Democracy_Hoppe.jpg,yB8vimPv++F/Ee/W4g7Jig==,PT,,1494008817 124257111,124261182,2017-05-05 18:27:15,">>124260670 >Building roads is a NAP aggression >Can't build roads to get to point A to point B in very short time because it violate somebody's NAP Cuck",,Anonymous,1473795018122.gif,/x7J9dKvZtXfUWlhfLKdSg==,US,,1494008835 124257111,124261225,2017-05-05 18:27:36,You're all neo-feudalists.,,Anonymous,1133425346456.png,RYaT4fFYY+vx3eFWKAPOeg==,GB,,1494008856 124257111,124261481,2017-05-05 18:29:52,">>124261182 What are memes?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494008992 124257111,124261617,2017-05-05 18:30:52,">>124261225 Am I supposed to read all that commie horseshit?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494009052 124257111,124261789,2017-05-05 18:32:14,">>124261481 memes are a social construct",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494009134 124257111,124261818,2017-05-05 18:32:29,">>124257776 t b h",,Anonymous,spekr.png,dGx2OPLFsO5s6PE1MRFNug==,GB,,1494009149 124257111,124261938,2017-05-05 18:33:22,">>124261818 oops, meant to reply to >>124257700",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494009202 124257111,124262084,2017-05-05 18:34:29,">>124260274 nobody will use roads except for heavy freight. we will all fly from swimming pool to swimming pool",,Anonymous,fn_frontside.jpg,8PysYp/jvdba2hedyF76yw==,MX,,1494009269 124257111,124262107,2017-05-05 18:34:39,">>124261225 Here is a general rule of thumb for most philosophies and ideas >if it takes you one hundred words to say something that should only require ten, what you are spouting is probably bullshit >>124260218 >t. doesn't know what diseconomies of scales is",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494009279 124257111,124262116,2017-05-05 18:34:44,">>124261617 >the guy who won't read a long spool of text wants a society based around contract law. Stay spooked classcuck.",,Anonymous,1425346546.png,2DJMLnTQJ8TGL2aCCxe5IQ==,GB,,1494009284 124257111,124262310,2017-05-05 18:36:04,">>124262116 b8",,Anonymous,1490805837759.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,GB,,1494009364 124257111,124262362,2017-05-05 18:36:31,">>124261225 lol >implying anyone can cooperate without property/prices/money >implying any rational person would join an ancom society where people can freely do heroin everywhere and transaction costs in general are absurdly high",,Anonymous,Screenshot (19).png,ralWOgy5+PlmLDgYrvgBzQ==,IE,,1494009391 124257111,124262530,2017-05-05 18:37:49,">>124262310 What about Hoppe wants to start physically removing people for being gay etc?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494009469 124257111,124262563,2017-05-05 18:38:03,">Plow through 160 pages of dense Hans Herman Hoppe tongue twisters >He calls Keynes's prose convoluted Really ironic Tbh",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1494009483 124257111,124262592,2017-05-05 18:38:18,">a Helicopter license costs half of my annual income >a UH-1 is $500k Free market, help.",,Anonymous,1488265959545.png,O50krmmLtLglffiAkJlv5Q==,US,,1494009498 124257111,124262693,2017-05-05 18:39:06,">>124262530 he's reffering to a covenant community founded on protecting family and kin. you're taking him out of context. heres the quote.",,Anonymous,misc (6).jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,US,,1494009546 124257111,124262759,2017-05-05 18:39:31,">>124262592 Get a business loan and become an Pinochet style economist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494009571 124257111,124262805,2017-05-05 18:39:56,">>124262563 Where are you in dude? Amazing that we have a Syrian reading Hoppe kek. Stay safe man",,Anonymous,1442585-1-XL.jpg,PSfTxeTqok7VkzPlzOEz5g==,PT,,1494009596 124257111,124262952,2017-05-05 18:41:05,For those that need to be reminded.,,Anonymous,17388990_10155188064857264_3554594324893539697_o.jpg,QIUlHrnl9XullFQGYSXmPg==,IE,,1494009665 124257111,124262970,2017-05-05 18:41:10,">>124262592 far 103 ultraight aircraft,no liscense buy a gyrocopter instead",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1494009670 124257111,124262973,2017-05-05 18:41:11,">>124262530 He's free to exclude whoever he wants from his private property and/or covenant community. I imagine plenty of communities will accept gay people (if Hoppe is right, they'll do worse. Social darwinism and such).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494009671 124257111,124263122,2017-05-05 18:42:28,">>124262084 How we are going to afford the flying machines to get to our jobs? Know how many businesses would be lost to no roads and have to revamp their parking space for flying machines?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494009748 124257111,124263176,2017-05-05 18:42:48,">>124262970 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRd-yMT_5NE But does it sound this sexy?",,Anonymous,1492793080984.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1494009768 124257111,124263627,2017-05-05 18:46:33,">>124263122 businesses that require roads would happily pay to maintain them. flying machines use tech just as simple as motorcycles.24 hp engine wood and fabric crossed the english channel over a hundred years ago. turn them into reflecting pools similar to the one in washington DC",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1494009993 124257111,124263718,2017-05-05 18:47:18,">>124262952 Hi Curt.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494010038 124257111,124263772,2017-05-05 18:47:47,>>124263176,,Anonymous,RrvR9eNWOnmN6srs_WdZQXD-lggI1prr8B3ZmQFsKvk.jpg,6IKCL9/QLbdebWHHmip4ug==,US,,1494010067 124257111,124263819,2017-05-05 18:48:10,">>124262805 Ethics of private property. I kinda regret it desu since it was above my level even though I know my economics. Had to read an introduction to Austrian economics to help make sense of it. Is his language in general always this pretentious or is it just the more technical stuff?",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1494010090 124257111,124263825,2017-05-05 18:48:13,">>124262116 >One individual decides to start a farm on land that a Voluntaryist has claimed on his own that man broke the NAP right there on his own volition, and thus is met with rightful justice Nice try, but self-defense and protection of private property is part of the deal, even if it means being violent doing so. In essence by trespassing to farm on someone else's land without permission, that man already committed a violation and is subject to justice as determined by the owner and private courts. There is no contradiction, if the man just respected property rights and other people's property there would be no problems whatsoever and all remains in peace. I suspect I'm replying to bait, but nonetheless I choose to have done so by my own decision without coercion.",,Anonymous,1492692172582.png,Pf1BbhBkujFFxRuqC0CxiA==,US,,1494010093 124257111,124264046,2017-05-05 18:50:05,">>124263819 Yes, I too had to look up the word ""erroneous"" when starting Democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494010205 124257111,124264133,2017-05-05 18:50:51,">>124263176 no,thats true. but this is still kinda badass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8ejDTXUcxg",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1494010251 124257111,124264507,2017-05-05 18:54:21,">>124263819 Dude, EEPP is endgame-tier when it comes to Hoppe. You should start with other, smaller books of his in order to get started. I started with Democracy—The God That Failed and let me tell you, apart from a few clarifications on his philosophical stances on epistemology (his defense of a priori) in the first chapter, the rest is economics, politics, history, society and culture. I'd recommend you to start with Democracy, since it covers everything. There's even a chapter on war which you might consider of special importance given what's happening in your country. Brazilbro also made this post for his own progress.",,Anonymous,hoppe reading order.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,PT,,1494010461 124257111,124264676,2017-05-05 18:55:57,">>124263718 Hi hans",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1494010557 124257111,124264783,2017-05-05 18:56:53,">>124263627 So if a business have total control of the maintaining of the roads(only ones with the equipment to do so) decides to fuck you over, what now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494010613 124257111,124264879,2017-05-05 18:57:44,">>124264783 Find another one to do it. That's what great about freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494010664 124257111,124264977,2017-05-05 18:58:39,HERE COMES DAT MISES!,,Anonymous,herecomdatmises.png,kHvaTQnl+UGEhKH373a5mA==,US,,1494010719 124257111,124265063,2017-05-05 18:59:32,">>124264507 I know my economics man. It's not like I don't understand what I'm reading, it's just that it's hard to get through. Tbh I never felt like reading democracy. The ideas on that book are heavily influenced by the work of Mancur Olsun whom I've read and I don't feel like reading the same stuff twice. In general all economists know that democracy is cancer, Hoppe isn't the first to point that out. >>124264046 Yeah non native speakers tend to have this complex way of writing to make up for their lack of vocabulary.",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1494010772 124257111,124265106,2017-05-05 18:59:58,"round up the jews and nigger NOW! I will control the concentration camp in africa USA owns israel jew women ugly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494010798 124257111,124265194,2017-05-05 19:00:42,">>124264977 austrian school economics IS economics youtube yaron brook",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494010842 124257111,124265372,2017-05-05 19:02:14,Fuck it all!,,Anonymous,IMG_1579.jpg,Uq/JCPsUthiowOXnQ4UpAw==,JP,,1494010934 124257111,124265393,2017-05-05 19:02:25,">>124265194 think you got the wrong poster there jack",,Anonymous,Bj8DWcRCQAAuGid.jpg,M1DNKNjlHDlnSa1brLMdGQ==,US,,1494010945 124257111,124265637,2017-05-05 19:04:46,">>124265063 It's still a great read nonetheless. When it comes to his writing-style, I think it's perfectly fine. He combines technical language and prose quite well, and adds some wit here and there. Also, what's wrong with erroneous? It's a very used word here.",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1494011086 124257111,124266003,2017-05-05 19:07:58,,,Anonymous,ludwig-von-mises-606864.jpg,1TAyYM8p9heTkScoTSRH1Q==,US,,1494011278 124257111,124266149,2017-05-05 19:09:18,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1494011358 124257111,124266202,2017-05-05 19:09:37,,,Anonymous,misesonspeech.jpg,M8yYVVZA5p74skfnnB2kmg==,US,,1494011377 124257111,124266206,2017-05-05 19:09:38,>>124257111,,Anonymous,Spekr5-5-17.png,iPg/kiK8bSnEDbpIYG2YpQ==,US,,1494011378 124257111,124266215,2017-05-05 19:09:42,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1494011382 124257111,124266264,2017-05-05 19:10:06,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1494011406 124257111,124266308,2017-05-05 19:10:27,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1494011427 124257111,124266351,2017-05-05 19:10:45,,,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,US,,1494011445 124257111,124266360,2017-05-05 19:10:47,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1494011447 124257111,124266399,2017-05-05 19:11:07,,,Anonymous,great austrian minds.png,V6MFunytZh+SZ158PI780w==,PT,,1494011467 124257111,124266490,2017-05-05 19:11:56,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1494011516 124257111,124266507,2017-05-05 19:12:03,">>124257700 Apparently thinking abortion is murder and immigration should be restricted pegs me as a minarchist.",,Anonymous,spekd.png,KW15+2rdFpyGFnyIrxAOiQ==,US,,1494011523 124257111,124266552,2017-05-05 19:12:25,">>124265637 reading it now I think all democrats should be removed to africa 1 way",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494011545 124257111,124266585,2017-05-05 19:12:40,,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1494011560 124257111,124266694,2017-05-05 19:13:41,">>124266003 T shirt worthy why dont we go for extreme capitalism? le pen is not far right le pen is centric marcon is far fringe left as was obama, the worst president of all time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494011621 124257111,124266886,2017-05-05 19:15:17,">>124266264 this is giving me an erection",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494011717 124257111,124266914,2017-05-05 19:15:30,">>124266694 Unfortunately states have built in brakes that make it virtually impossible to do anything. Remember we in Europe over here don't live in the land of the free, unfortunately. We live in the land of compulsory healthcare, gun grabbing and censorship. Insurgency and separatism is the way to go.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494011730 124257111,124267114,2017-05-05 19:17:10,">>124266585 This is actually so accurate it hurts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494011830 124257111,124267294,2017-05-05 19:18:33,">>124266694 >>124266914 This, the elites have their way to block free markets, because those would devoid them of power. For Christ's sake, Macron gets labeled a market liberal here because he doesn't support Le Pen's protectionism. You wouldn't believe how apeshit people go if you mention privatizing healthcare and infrastructure, yet they still blame the (in reality non existent) capitalist boogeyman for everything wrong in the world.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494011913 124257111,124267556,2017-05-05 19:20:32,,,Anonymous,What property actually is.jpg,V6OGLeJ3WICN0UzLar1q3g==,IE,,1494012032 124257111,124267558,2017-05-05 19:20:32,">>124266886 >pic related",,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1494012032 124257111,124267579,2017-05-05 19:20:42,">>124266914 vote for more capitalist leaders! I have voted for them nonstop starting with ross perot through ron paul and rand now trump you have to hold the beleif that democrats are retards, and thier ideas fail look at obamacare prices up supply down",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012042 124257111,124267629,2017-05-05 19:21:09,,,Anonymous,img_20170326_210348.jpg,A2TeNWlkDpr0ckgGAChJdw==,IE,,1494012069 124257111,124267708,2017-05-05 19:21:45,">>124266585 I think only recently have we been able to throw off the stink of the hippies that invaded the movement in Rothbards time. More people I think are able to make the distinction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012105 124257111,124267725,2017-05-05 19:21:57,">>124267294 I pointed out to my mom that obamacare made price go up and supply down she looked at me like I was crazy she is convinced republicans are stealing medical care from kids or some insane shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012117 124257111,124267844,2017-05-05 19:22:53,">>124257111 I got enlightened ! Thank you, burger ! Now, be a good bürger- have a fat, massive burger, mein bürger.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494012173 124257111,124267895,2017-05-05 19:23:18,">>124267558 im seriously so erect i feel like im sliding into a tight pussy doggystyle",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012198 124257111,124268112,2017-05-05 19:25:10,"get in here fegs >>124266519",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012310 124257111,124268394,2017-05-05 19:27:10,,,Anonymous,1490914594067.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,BR,,1494012430 124257111,124268405,2017-05-05 19:27:17,">>124267629 The propertarians are an interesting group. Doolittle has decent criticism of Hoppe's Argument from Argumentation. They also have a similar issue with the Austrian a priori argument approach to economics. Good stuff to see the type of counter argument you might run into if you are arguing on an economic basis.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012437 124257111,124268427,2017-05-05 19:27:33,">>124267844 sweet man, welcome to the covenant.",,Anonymous,Pepe.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1494012453 124257111,124268611,2017-05-05 19:28:53,">>124267579 unfortunately there is no such thing here in Portugal. For example, just yesterday our centre-right party, the CDS (Social Democratic Centre) had one of their speakers, Adolfo Nunes, debating about Le Pen and Macron on a program along with a higher up of the Left Bloc, Mariana Mortágua. She rambled how both Macron and Le Pen didn't give enough ""rights"" to people and that Le Pen was fascism and all sorts of crazy bullshit. Then the CDS guy called her out on her bullshit by saying a lot of the Left Bloc's economic policy is similar or equal to the National Front, and that their party had sympathizers of Maduro and what-not, and she just denied it all and said ""we're against fascism!"". There is no right wing party in this country, no desire for autonomy and freedom. All parties don't want their competitors to take a hold of the state, but they themselves wish to use it for their advantage. It's a fucking shame. And our constitution is leftist garbage, which explicitly says in the preamble that Portugal ought to be a socialist country, and comes up with all sorts of bullshit rights and duties. >>124267895",,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1494012533 124257111,124268642,2017-05-05 19:29:06,">>124268394 Im guna seriously blow a laod can barely hold on",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012546 124257111,124268692,2017-05-05 19:29:29,,,Anonymous,C36ZRd0WMAEp8hV.jpg,dFpgCIjVheseKn/lIGKZbg==,IE,,1494012569 124257111,124268823,2017-05-05 19:30:34,,,Anonymous,mmmisesontyrants.jpg,uHNe5/bdy0/yu+n/KlR9Yg==,US,,1494012634 124257111,124268962,2017-05-05 19:31:38,">>124268692 What are this guys tenets? How does he stack up against objectivism? Natural order? Geoism, objectivism, natural order, possibly propertarian are things I find tolerable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012698 124257111,124269116,2017-05-05 19:32:56,">>124268405 I love Hoppe, but he's a victim of his education by Habermas and Rothbard. If he had attempted to write about private property as a means of commensurability in scientific language and not through apriorism then he could have won a nobel prize like Ostrom did for her work on commons etc. It's a pity really",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1494012776 124257111,124269121,2017-05-05 19:32:57,">>124268823 Austrian school is economics. Let each do, let no regulation stop production etc.... Let everything be private, let go vrun on less than 1% of GDP defense only police n courts thats it nothing else",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012777 124257111,124269227,2017-05-05 19:33:50,,,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,CA,,1494012830 124257111,124269291,2017-05-05 19:34:15,">>124269116 as if anyone cares about a nobel prise anymore its totally corrupted by commies obama the worst president ever got one so did the former economist known as krugman, a total nut now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012855 124257111,124269415,2017-05-05 19:35:10,,,Anonymous,Rothbard state.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,CA,,1494012910 124257111,124269502,2017-05-05 19:35:45,">>124269227 its pretty simple SPQR!",,Anonymous,15936925_1225186147549702_945899955369074098_o.jpg,gisoVvWR6dEaYY1RwRKBlg==,US,,1494012945 124257111,124269524,2017-05-05 19:35:54,">>124269116 The only qualms I have with Hoppe are precisely the fact that he used Habermas as a framework. I'm not familiar with the man's works, but from what I've read, he's one of (((Frankfurt School's))) main promoters, right? Either Hoppe is espousing the right worldview based on a wrong framework, or he was successful in turning Habermas framework against him, which would be brilliant.",,Anonymous,holy roman empire.png,CWtbYwgPfBbug6DRNImmXQ==,PT,,1494012954 124257111,124269591,2017-05-05 19:36:27,">>124268692 I would argue that Rothbard did not have a paralyzing conception of the NAP that a pure pacifist might have. Creating a hierarchy of judges presents a threat to the very conditions of liberty that Doolittle subsequently enumerates.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494012987 124257111,124269642,2017-05-05 19:36:49,">>124269415 Hail Rothbard, truely based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013009 124257111,124269903,2017-05-05 19:38:38,">>124257111 Real Libertarians aren't right or left. Not even on that line. The counter weight of real Libertarians is totalitarians right or left. What I find annoying about people who claim to be lefty or right Libertarians believe identity politics which is Authoritarian by nature and poplar opposite of Libertarian. Nazis can go fuck off with the commies, both of you are fucking scum.",,Jelly Bean,,,US,,1494013118 124257111,124270096,2017-05-05 19:40:09,">>124269903 What does liberty mean to you?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494013209 124257111,124270172,2017-05-05 19:40:45,">>124269116 That's the primary criticism that the Propertarianism have of him, his ""marxist"" education. although they seem to admit he still arrived at the right place. I'm not as well read on them yet though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013245 124257111,124270486,2017-05-05 19:43:15,">>124264879 And if there is no another one? Are you going to pay somebody to make dirt roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013395 124257111,124270686,2017-05-05 19:45:01,">>124270486 theres gonna be another one. there is no monopoly when everyone has free entry to compete with that buisness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013501 124257111,124270909,2017-05-05 19:46:48,">>124270486 Why wouldn't there be another one? We don't live in a vacuum devoid of road maintenance capabilities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013608 124257111,124271079,2017-05-05 19:48:28,">>124270909 It's a lot easier to make them now. The problem it's the real state.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1494013708 124257111,124271152,2017-05-05 19:49:01,">>124261225 >You're all neo-feudalists Is this supposed to be an insult? Go read about feudal society, rather than getting all your information from Monty Python. It was highly structured, with different expectations from every class in society (including the very highest ranks; the king had a real job and he was expected to carry it out with competence otherwise there would soon be a new king). Justice played a large role in society. It wasn't just some free for all with nobles shooting and raping peasants whenever they felt like it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494013741 124257111,124271255,2017-05-05 19:49:48,">>124270172 what idea is bad from hoppe?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013788 124257111,124271417,2017-05-05 19:51:13,">>124264783 business has no control business is free trade stop thinking capitalism is control capitalism is OFFERs lots of them State is control you sound like you are a bit democrat check all your premises",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013873 124257111,124271418,2017-05-05 19:51:13,">>124271255 Nothing, it's just that these propertarian guys think Hoppe's education at Frankfurt and influence by Habermas skewered his reasoning and path to reach his (correct) conclusions.",,Anonymous,hoppe check em.png,a0MepQNWpK+ksQ9fSimWYg==,PT,,1494013873 124257111,124271497,2017-05-05 19:51:49,">>124268427 whats covenant?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013909 124257111,124271540,2017-05-05 19:52:07,">>124271079 The community could own shares of the road and offer contracts for its upkeep. This way the maintenance will always be up for bidding. Any excess toll revenue would be distributed to stock holders. This arrangement would presumably come about after the local government is dissolved and shares are distributed based on property taxes previously paid into the local government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013927 124257111,124271600,2017-05-05 19:52:34,">>124271418 Id love to see the correction of which incorrect idea!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013954 124257111,124271634,2017-05-05 19:52:53,">>124261225 I actually *don't want* society to be radically different. Libertarianism is concerned with decentralizing *political authority*, not all forms of social hierarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494013973 124257111,124271676,2017-05-05 19:53:11,">>124271600 Me too, bud.",,Anonymous,cecilia.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1494013991 124257111,124271765,2017-05-05 19:53:55,">>124263819 >Is his language in general always this pretentious or is it just the more technical stuff? That book is relatively advanced, which is why you may be having trouble. But it's still quite palatable compared to most philosophy. Philosophers in general tend to be awful writers. Also, don't forget that he is originally German.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494014035 124257111,124271920,2017-05-05 19:55:11,">>124271255 It's not empirical is the main issue people have. Praxeology is a deductive line of reasoning that Mises developed to avoid aping the methods of other sciences. It does not preclude empiricism, but regards it as somewhat incomplete in formulating accurate predictions. At least that is my understanding of the friction between Austrians and the likes of the Chicago school and the Propertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014111 124257111,124272009,2017-05-05 19:55:55,">>124260218 typical idiotic brit no wonder all your colonies outdo you this bizarre term anarcho capitalism is such a silly intelelctual package deal smear capitalism just capitalism capitalism is orderly and peaceful anarcho democracy is closer since there is no property its a gangwar fre for all lying fest",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014155 124257111,124272126,2017-05-05 19:56:52,">>124260274 under capitalism a capitalist would why? whats this anarcho adjective thats latched onto capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014212 124257111,124272159,2017-05-05 19:57:07,">>124257111 Nice",,Anonymous,image.jpg,mDLVMruDkiHX6wYfovzmfA==,FR,,1494014227 124257111,124272342,2017-05-05 19:58:38,">>124260365 well first you have to define eugenics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014318 124257111,124272390,2017-05-05 19:59:09,">>124268962 Natural law = reciprocity (do not impose costs on what others consider to be their property) Then use common law to ensure that any new forms of parasitism on anyone's property can be prosecuted. All that's left over for people to do then is to engage in transfers of property and create normative/cultural/monumental/institutional commons - and because of this you get markets in everything Limiting people to only cooperating through markers and completely outlawing any redistribution of wealth stops the reproduction of the underclasses, which I'd imagine would raise the average IQ by a large amount Different houses in governments for every class and gender. Conduct trades between the classes for the production of commons. Testimonialism (giving protections to the informational commons) just forces people to eliminate pseudoscience/deceit/obscurantism etc. from their written work, there's way more about it on his website https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJQr050jPYM",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1494014349 124257111,124272435,2017-05-05 19:59:27,">>124260731 your low iq communist tendencies to justify your failure in life",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014367 124257111,124272523,2017-05-05 20:00:14,">>124272126 Anarchy-as in no government. This does not mean lawlessness and vagrancy rather a private law society. Some of the Hoppe images above described it or you can go to youtube for one of his lectures on it. The voluntary exchange of capital is how society functions hence Anarcho Capitalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014414 124257111,124272525,2017-05-05 20:00:16,">>124271497 a voluntary community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014416 124257111,124272554,2017-05-05 20:00:29,">>124261141 Im reading this now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014429 124257111,124272597,2017-05-05 20:00:47,"LOLbertarians are quasi-globalists. LOLbertarians support globalist trade deals & mass immigration. LOLbertarians can FUCK OFF.",,Anonymous,Moonman.jpg,Cpeo3g97WLh31O9ck2Riiw==,CA,,1494014447 124257111,124272615,2017-05-05 20:00:56,">>124272342 I don't mean genes exclusively, but good character and stewardship in general.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494014456 124257111,124272639,2017-05-05 20:01:04,">>124261182 building a road does not violate NAP tard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014464 124257111,124272704,2017-05-05 20:01:36,">>124260731 We make no discrimination when peddling our dank memes. They are the dankest and most in demand memes so we are here to produce them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014496 124257111,124272828,2017-05-05 20:02:38,">>124262116 pic makes 0 sense",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014558 124257111,124272889,2017-05-05 20:03:01,">>124262310 I love this one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014581 124257111,124272906,2017-05-05 20:03:09,">>124272597 you're new.",,Anonymous,1485703346145.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1494014589 124257111,124272925,2017-05-05 20:03:23,">>124272597 nice buzzwords, but canada has hate speech laws. you just automatically lost the right to argue in favor of your state, it has proven itself a failure",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014603 124257111,124272960,2017-05-05 20:03:38,">>124269116 Dayum....an irishman talking about joachim habermas....i`ll have to lurk more.....sláinte, mate .",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494014618 124257111,124273022,2017-05-05 20:04:08,">Who will build muh roads Who ever wants them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_6_in_Iowa#River-to-River_Road",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014648 124257111,124273156,2017-05-05 20:05:13,">>124272597 Stick a plug up your ass, fashy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014713 124257111,124273311,2017-05-05 20:06:18,">>124262530 he says property owners can remove thsoe from thier area now some areas might be fine for them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014778 124257111,124273330,2017-05-05 20:06:26,">>124272906 I was likely here long before you. LOLbertarians are quasi-globalists. Shills are trying to steer people away from Nationalism to the globalist LOLbertarians. LOLbertarians can FUCK OFF.",,Anonymous,1452194614568.png,3SXA9J6jzkymERL93niW3g==,CA,,1494014786 124257111,124273382,2017-05-05 20:06:52,">>124262563 well because your mind is destroyed by commy school",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014812 124257111,124273519,2017-05-05 20:07:56,">>124273156 Go suck on some more globalist dick LOLbertarian. LOLbertarians are at best just useful idiots for globalists.",,Anonymous,1449358446794.gif,RvLuilqyDArNNbtiR7/tvA==,CA,,1494014876 124257111,124273601,2017-05-05 20:08:35,">>124262952 who the fucks this doolittle fucker?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014915 124257111,124273611,2017-05-05 20:08:43,">>124272597 You're right, kikebertarians are cancer. Good thing that we are AnCaps.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494014923 124257111,124273698,2017-05-05 20:09:23,">>124272925 I'm not disputing Canada is a failure. It was never meant to be an independent country.",,Anonymous,CanadaLetsGo.jpg,xzh2ciQwSDDPGwZw+zTbpA==,CA,,1494014963 124257111,124273765,2017-05-05 20:09:53,">>124263122 stop inventing weird problems roads instead of being made by government at 20-300x market cost would be cheaply made understand government does things shitty and expersively",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494014993 124257111,124273871,2017-05-05 20:10:48,">>124273611 AnCaps are yet more useful idiots for globalists. You are either a shill or an idiot.",,Anonymous,CYK4CREUEAAzs6i.jpg large.jpg,zcI9jSZd1zuvrKypUYBq5A==,CA,,1494015048 124257111,124274006,2017-05-05 20:11:52,"Little update on the article article about the rent seeking behavior of the university activist profession. I just found an amazing website which directly addresses the question of funding for the humanities. Here's a graph of the evolution of the sum allocated to the biggest humanities research fund in the US, the NEH. It seems to me that there is three point of analysis one must consider in order to analyse the relationship between government funding and activist behavior on campus. 1. The way in which government intervention artificially inflates the number of students in those discipline. (A push phenomena.) 2. The way in which the government fund the department which churn out professional activist by the thousands and finance research in these department. 3. The way in which the government then finances a job market for the graduate of those disciplines afterward. (A pull phenomena.) I'm not sure I have the competence to pull this off convincingly but I'm still looking anyway. The problem right now consists in forming an accurate picture of the data, which mostly consists in funding structures, sources, description of certain job markets and so on.",,Anonymous,neh funding.jpg,FX2LMF5nyJFkyEJzknkKoQ==,CA,,1494015112 124257111,124274065,2017-05-05 20:12:20,">>124273330 Question for the Nazi. Do all national socialists have a paternalistic conception of the state? Like the state or leader thereof is supposed to be a father and the people its children?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015140 124257111,124274140,2017-05-05 20:12:57,">>124273871 You are right goyi...my friend,there is nothing wrong with central banking",,Anonymous,image.jpg,pCGXVw/4r8s80XZpJXHrXw==,FR,,1494015177 124257111,124274155,2017-05-05 20:13:01,">>124270686 There will be a monopoly eventually.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015181 124257111,124274243,2017-05-05 20:13:40,">>124269116 >If he had attempted to write about private property as a means of commensurability in scientific language My desire to know more has intensified.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494015220 124257111,124274245,2017-05-05 20:13:39,">>124273871 >advocating isolationism and discrimination while fiercly opposing countries working together on a political level and pan nationalism like the EU makes you a globalist",,Anonymous,1491577866218.jpg,afHGDEyqS7BmJww1/AXkzQ==,DE,,1494015219 124257111,124274260,2017-05-05 20:13:48,">>124271676 Id love to bang that latina mamasita on cinco de cocko",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015228 124257111,124274356,2017-05-05 20:14:31,">>124270686 The problem with this is that it discredits the existence of limited natural resources. It's all good to say that competition will occur, but if someone has control of all of a certain natural resource, no amount of competition is going to be able to access it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494015271 124257111,124274424,2017-05-05 20:15:12,">>124271920 compared to what that is empirical?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015312 124257111,124274518,2017-05-05 20:15:52,">>124274155 Even if there was it would have to be efficient and meet the needs of its customers adequately. In a totally competitive environment monopolies, especially in something like road construction, are very hard to form and even harder to maintain without the guns of the state to regulate the competition out of business.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015352 124257111,124274561,2017-05-05 20:16:08,">>124274356 >but if someone has control of all of a certain natural resource Like what?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494015368 124257111,124274696,2017-05-05 20:17:15,">>124272390 class? not sure I like the sound of that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015435 124257111,124274765,2017-05-05 20:17:51,">>124274424 The Chicago School likes to make hypothesis and then go into the world and test them. Usually this involves evaluating data sets and setting up test conditions like you might see in a social science.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015471 124257111,124274778,2017-05-05 20:17:57,">>124274356 >it discredits the existence of limited natural resources. it is precisely because resources are scarce that we resort to private property rights...",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494015477 124257111,124274842,2017-05-05 20:18:29,">>124272523 yes yes thsi is covered by ayn rand and yaron brook on youtube no one would equate capitalism with anarchy its like saying wet dry or crony capitalism all crony and monopoly come from state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015509 124257111,124274902,2017-05-05 20:18:59,">>124272597 nah you can fuck off stupid",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015539 124257111,124274963,2017-05-05 20:19:24,">>124272615 but who decides whats good?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015564 124257111,124275174,2017-05-05 20:21:15,">>124272906 damn that got saved great pic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015675 124257111,124275238,2017-05-05 20:21:37,">>124274963 People do, of all sorts. It would be reflected in the society and the marketplace through spatial separation and the enforcement of community standards. >spoiler alert: certain types of people are pretty much universally reviled and would return to being fringe elements of society",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494015697 124257111,124275239,2017-05-05 20:21:37,">>124274518 >A new road builder company arrived! >The older road builder company drop prices to the point where the new road builder company can't make money >The new company close >The older company raise up the prices again Does economic warfare violate the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015697 124257111,124275620,2017-05-05 20:24:40,">>124274902 LOLbertarians are quasi-globalists. Shills want people to veer away from Nationalism.",,Anonymous,1451439221578.jpg,o+hh4j/0MWxTJf2BYEQzhQ==,CA,,1494015880 124257111,124275621,2017-05-05 20:24:40,">>124273022 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_6_in_Iowa#River-to-River_Road https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_road_drag fuck america is awesome",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015880 124257111,124275662,2017-05-05 20:24:58,">>124273156 mckek +fries",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015898 124257111,124275725,2017-05-05 20:25:30,">>124275239 That's called the free market, m8. Once they raise prices again, someone else will come to compete, that keeps the prices perpetually low.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494015930 124257111,124275780,2017-05-05 20:25:55,">>124273330 fuck off unless you have ideas to add or a better idea than capitalism pro tip you dont socialism fails look at obamacare debacle",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494015955 124257111,124275809,2017-05-05 20:26:05,>>124274245,,Anonymous,1454650967060.png,T4xeHMwYYsIJQcQSipK3hg==,CA,,1494015965 124257111,124275925,2017-05-05 20:27:02,">>124273519 whos got the rake? libertarians and capitalists and objectivists are hard core anti one world global government communism they are diametrically opposed infact you megatard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016022 124257111,124276011,2017-05-05 20:27:56,">>124273611 speak for yourself I am an objectivist capitalist nothing anarchy just plain old capitalism real free markets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016076 124257111,124276031,2017-05-05 20:28:04,,,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann-Hoppe.jpg,9oYfzoaM1h0laAcSL4AKwQ==,BR,,1494016084 124257111,124276076,2017-05-05 20:28:28,">>124268611 pic related is the biggest redpill",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494016108 124257111,124276103,2017-05-05 20:28:39,">>124275780 You LOLbertarians gonna start promoting the Rothschilds new ""Inclusive Capitalism"" marketing moniker for globalism? LOLbertarians are literally the perfect idiots for globalists.",,Anonymous,1454118382105.png,RSXwuXTWYhlwPhYfopQWew==,CA,,1494016119 124257111,124276111,2017-05-05 20:28:43,">>124257700 >spekr Shit test designed by retards who think endless open borders is libertarian. Retarded/10",,Anonymous,cMON.jpg,FUmc7soN0RDrseBuIZ8pVg==,BE,,1494016123 124257111,124276192,2017-05-05 20:29:16,">>124273698 canada should make single payer housing and prove its socialist superiority also make a better car and computer since all that science is settled and they are so genius",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016156 124257111,124276266,2017-05-05 20:29:54,">>124273871 ok from now on this cancerous leaf will be ignored",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016194 124257111,124276318,2017-05-05 20:30:22,">>124275780 No he still hasn't answered my question.>>124274065 Every nazi I've ever talked to has this weird idea that the leader of the state is like a father and dictates ""what is good for the nation"". This is obviously the same problem Communism has in requiring a perfect person to run things. So what say you leaf? What's the deal with this? Do all Nazis have daddy issues that they turn to national socialism to fill an emotional void left by a negligent father?>>124275620",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016222 124257111,124276383,2017-05-05 20:30:51,">>124275925 You THINK you are opposing globalism but are quite literally being used by globalists.",,Anonymous,1468811091846.jpg,gQZNNaUpZnPwNTlKVamrgQ==,CA,,1494016251 124257111,124276406,2017-05-05 20:30:59,">>124274155 only if gov spending rises or gov regulates othewise no monopoly possible",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016259 124257111,124276529,2017-05-05 20:32:08,">>124276111 what test do you recommend for right-libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016328 124257111,124276619,2017-05-05 20:32:51,">>124274245 no trying to impose supernational taxes n laws on a group of countires whos citizens never wanted to be part of a big group liek EU is globalism you are either retarded or just a democrat what you want is non government managed free markets gov spending les than 1% of GDP and gov spending not counted as part of GDP no regulations courts and defense only",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016371 124257111,124276623,2017-05-05 20:32:55,">>124276103 >""Inclusive Capitalism"" ""Egalitarianism, in every form and shape, is incompatible with the idea of private property. Private property implies exclusivity, inequality, and difference. And cultural relativism is incompatible with the fundamental—indeed foundational—fact of families and intergenerational kinship relations. Families and kinship relations imply cultural absolutism."" —Hans-Hermann Hoppe :^)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494016375 124257111,124276644,2017-05-05 20:33:04,">>124275725 Only to be driven out again by a powerful already establish company. Try again, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016384 124257111,124276655,2017-05-05 20:33:11,">>124276318 Actually I didn't see that post but I see you are so butthurt you are about to cry so I won't bother.",,Anonymous,1452355314322.jpg,fLDoOghjQwi3wBpSOcKGww==,CA,,1494016391 124257111,124276727,2017-05-05 20:33:49,">>124274356 no natural resource is unique there are many alternative to anything and free trade is best anyhow you are stuck in democrat miseducation I can tell youtube yaron brook",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016429 124257111,124276813,2017-05-05 20:34:33,">>124263819 It's the same with Mises, they are German-speakers writing in English. Their prose will never be *great*.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016473 124257111,124276844,2017-05-05 20:34:47,">>124276655 >Muh Hitler >Muh Nazis You are a king cuck idiot. How do you espouse tradition and nationalism, when you don't even respect that you fought against Germany during WWII.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494016487 124257111,124276939,2017-05-05 20:35:50,"Bump with some ""Power and market"" concepts. Autistic intervention >What types of intervention can the invader commit? Broadly, we may distinguish three categories. In the first place, the intervener may command an individual subject to do or not to do certain things when these actions directly involve the individual’s person or property alone. In short, he restricts the subject’s use of his property when exchange is not involved. This may be called an autistic intervention, for any specific command directly involves only the subject himself. >Widely disparate types of autistic intervention are: homicide, assault, and compulsory enforcement or prohibition of any salute, speech, or religious observance. Binary intervention >Secondly, the intervener may enforce a coerced exchange between the individual subject and himself, or a coerced “gift” to himself from the subject. >Binary intervention occurs when the invader forces the subject to make an exchange or a unilateral “gift” of some good or service to the invader. Highway robbery and taxes are examples of binary intervention, as are conscription and compulsory jury service. Triangular intervention >Thirdly, the invader may either compel or prohibit an exchange between a pair of subjects. Example: price control.",,Anonymous,Power and Market.jpg,KU75KkwQyWEH48MG6Zg7Mg==,CA,,1494016550 124257111,124276954,2017-05-05 20:35:56,">>124274765 like what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016556 124257111,124277003,2017-05-05 20:36:24,">>124276655 No I'm legitimately interested. Are you in the discord I'm in? Do you think of the state like Rockwell laid out in the parent/child relationship?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016584 124257111,124277042,2017-05-05 20:36:45,">>124275238 sounds like capitalism aka letting people do what they want and ignore fuckers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016605 124257111,124277083,2017-05-05 20:37:06,">>124276623 I hope you idiots are aware ""Inclusive Capitalism"" is the new globalist buzzword. Can't wait for LOLbertarian idiots to start parroting that phrase.",,Anonymous,1452466377971.jpg,FVImasvu95FXoaPOtYkkGw==,CA,,1494016626 124257111,124277110,2017-05-05 20:37:21,">>124276383 >national socialism ends with a global world power in debt to to everyone that will lend it money >people who don't want that are globalists nazis deserve a seat right next to communists on General Pinochet's wild ride",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494016641 124257111,124277236,2017-05-05 20:38:33,">>124262116 go back and reread the footnote in Democracy, the God that Failed, p200-201, which explains the origin of property and homesteading, and the right to remove those who contest it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016713 124257111,124277312,2017-05-05 20:39:07,">>124276103 >A FUCKING LEAF",,Anonymous,A FUCKING LEAFFFFF.jpg,8Nq0C6DdjCGJVS/69FufTg==,BR,,1494016747 124257111,124277338,2017-05-05 20:39:20,wut....,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016760 124257111,124277386,2017-05-05 20:39:47,">>124277003 Not really. State is just political manifestation of the people. Leaders come and go.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494016787 124257111,124277514,2017-05-05 20:40:49,">>124276954 This will probably summarize their methods better than I could https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essays_in_Positive_Economics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016849 124257111,124277558,2017-05-05 20:41:10,">>124275620 butthurt is ebonics you should be removed :) what we want is all these regulations created by EU to extract more money than they are worth to go away and peaceful trade by individuals or groups to happen without government fucking everything up no NATO no foreign aid no TPP no global warming no agreements about xyz FREE MARKETS this is why usa no1 and singapore n hong kong our only rivals rest are far behind 1  Qatar 127,660 2  Luxembourg 104,003 —  Macau 95,151 3  Singapore 87,855 4  Brunei 76,884 5  Kuwait 71,887 6  Norway 69,249 7  Ireland 69,231 8  United Arab Emirates 67,871 9  Switzerland 59,561 10  San Marino 59,058 —  Hong Kong 58,322 11  United States 57,436 12  Saudi Arabia 55,158 13  Netherlands 51,049 14  Bahrain 50,704 15  Sweden 49,836 16  Iceland 49,136 17  Australia 48,899 18  Germany 48,111 —  Taiwan 48,095 19  Austria 48,005 20  Denmark 47,985 21  Oman 46,698 22  Canada 46,437 23  Belgium 45,047 24  United Kingdom 42,481 25  France 42,314 26  Finland 42,165 27  Japan 41,275 28  Malta 39,834 29  Equatorial Guinea 38,639 note that norway and arasb sit on oil, so produced fuck all switzerland is a trading middle man rest are tiny and usa is owed trillions by japs canada germany etc in defnes costs for 100 years usa own israel it is sand and usa welfare money",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016870 124257111,124277685,2017-05-05 20:42:18,">>124277386 So if the people were ok with weed and pornography and they elected a leader to that effect you wouldn't have a problem with that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016938 124257111,124277722,2017-05-05 20:42:36,">>124277110 Nazis will the pilots you idiot.",,Anonymous,1451715232707.jpg,ChN2poE/GvZabRSAcVthnA==,CA,,1494016956 124257111,124277731,2017-05-05 20:42:43,">>124276103 all opposite democrats are idiots many republicans are dems real free markets not allowing government to make trade deals adn regualtions and issolving all existing regs YEAH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494016963 124257111,124277801,2017-05-05 20:43:19,">>124277722 *be Typing fast. Didn't actually expect so many replies.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494016999 124257111,124277863,2017-05-05 20:43:49,">>124276383 no you are stupid and larping ignored!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494017029 124257111,124277869,2017-05-05 20:43:50,">>124264507 It's pretty difficult to read these sections of Hoppe without being rather well versed in logical positivism, which is a whole thing in and of itself. When the praxeologists get into the nature of their knowledge they're really engaging in rather abstruse philosophical discussions that involve the thinking and arguments of other schools. They refer to positions they (of necessity) don't completely present but whose content is itself a function of some prior philosophical background the understanding of which is essential in order to understand it. It makes for difficult reading. Pic related will touch on some of the philosophical elements that Hoppe is trying to demolish.",,Anonymous,Philosophical analysis in the twentieth century.jpg,din8GPKqcRrSpOo5uXLpUg==,CA,,1494017030 124257111,124277990,2017-05-05 20:44:51,">>124273330 You can be nationalist without being a statist. A nation does not require a state, only a people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494017091 124257111,124278000,2017-05-05 20:44:54,">>124276644 like amazon was by wal marrt ok faggot!! we know your a brainless drooling pos! fuck off back to daily shoa!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494017094 124257111,124278040,2017-05-05 20:45:14,">>124277083 >""Inclusive Capitalism"" I am just about certain that it's one of those stupid word dreamed up by liberals and is just another way to say ""social democracy"". Private property is by definition a concept which entails the possibility of exclusion, the very opposite of inclusivity. It implies, among other thing, the ability to discriminate on the basis of race.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494017114 124257111,124278137,2017-05-05 20:45:59,">>124277990 Don't bother, he's not even really a national socialist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494017159 124257111,124278175,2017-05-05 20:46:15,">>124277558 > FREE MARKETS Oh so naive... Foolish LOLbertarians don't realize trade is a weapon.",,Anonymous,1451598254469.png,e5+xKsQkI7+GUAJtRJn0PQ==,CA,,1494017175 124257111,124278178,2017-05-05 20:46:17,">>124277722 doesn't sound very likely nazis will spend a decade arguing about whether or not Ivan Sikorsky was a Jew or controlled opposition, then do nothing",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494017177 124257111,124278391,2017-05-05 20:48:14,">>124278137 You're right. I'm not. Sympathetic perhaps but not all the way down the socialist road. I still see the LOLbertarians for the globalist pawns they are tho.",,Anonymous,1452194384696.jpg,aGCkLfen8OpMfbVEPHd7DA==,CA,,1494017294 124257111,124278457,2017-05-05 20:48:49,">>124278000 You are the brainless faggot for not knowing there are businesses out there where you can't just pop up a business like it's nothing. If you want to get into the food business, but one food business bought most of the land that good for farming, you are fucked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494017329 124257111,124278677,2017-05-05 20:50:44,">>124278178 Perhaps under normal circumstances but demographics are forcing the situation.",,Anonymous,1455600430799.jpg,jPQJR0YT/u/mZhiGjdOBwg==,CA,,1494017444 124257111,124278882,2017-05-05 20:52:32,">>124278391 Libertarians are the only anti-globalists. Prove me wrong: show me someone who is anti-globalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494017552 124257111,124278980,2017-05-05 20:53:16,">>124278175 Good. You should be armed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494017596 124257111,124279273,2017-05-05 20:55:38,">>124278882 Every nationalists. It's not like they can express much of what they think anymore since a theory of nationalism has not been allowed to emerge explicitly since the end of WWII, unless it was to describe it as pathological somehow.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494017738 124257111,124279503,2017-05-05 20:57:33,">>124279273 I mean, can you give a name? Any name.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494017853 124257111,124279578,2017-05-05 20:58:13,">>124278882 LOLbertarians are the economic mouthpieces of the globalists. Nor do they oppose mass immigration. If you dispute that, you don't know what actual libertarianism is.",,Anonymous,1448501260513.jpg,0OiCDESOftI1NoWnl9G+HA==,CA,,1494017893 124257111,124279636,2017-05-05 20:58:52,">>124279273 libertarians are secessionists we do NOT want an all inclusive community. You should break away from the global union to have soverenty.",,Anonymous,15966300_1833359693601243_6275391223397632600_n.jpg,ylHG+ULWWY4mKcM4OFjbgA==,US,,1494017932 124257111,124279896,2017-05-05 21:01:02,">>124279273 EXACTLY THIS. LOLbertarians parrot the same arguments & policies as globalists yet somehow claim to be anti-globalist. Nationalism is only recently emerging from it's long slumber.",,Anonymous,1813aqov5wc2jjpg.jpg,xcSJxZ2ghb2wHe8N6BAoPw==,CA,,1494018062 124257111,124280000,2017-05-05 21:02:05,">>124279503 Pretty sure Alain de Benoist is no globalist. Marine Le Pen wouldn't qualify either. Steven Bannon, known for saying something like ""we're not an economy with a nation but a nation with an economy"" can hardly be called a globalist. English political philosopher John Gray is no globalist either. Here's some Gray: >It was a cardinal tenet of the Enlightenment that, whatever cultural variety the future of mankind would encompass, it was reasonable to expect convergence on a universal civilization undergirded by a shared, rational morality. >[...] >If the upshot of Berlin's value-pluralism is to undermine the idea of a rational morality, the effect of his work on nationalism is to jettison the prospect that a time may come when men's dominant allegiance is to the norms of a universal civilization. >[...] >If, as Vico, Herder and Berlin maintain, we are a highly inventive species whose forms of life are radically underdetermined by our common humanity, what reason is there to share the hopes of the Enlightenment for an eventual convergence of liberal and humanistic values? Why not expect, instead, endemic conflict among human beings, as they constitute themselves into distinct and incommensurable cultures, each committed to its identity, and not all animated by anything resembling liberal values? Do not recent developments in the Soviet Union, and in the beleaguered state of Israel, suggest that this latter prospect is all too likely?",,Anonymous,john_gray.jpg,PmOQDgLv4zJkM7nZnhqJUw==,CA,,1494018125 124257111,124280088,2017-05-05 21:02:47,why are we letting ourselves get trolled by a fucking leaf,,Anonymous,ancapthink (1).png,FCXn4dd4V7e2WwweWlCENA==,GB,,1494018167 124257111,124280239,2017-05-05 21:04:17,">>124278040 No, it's literally the new globalist buzzword being promoted by Rothschilds, etc. Look it up. It's their way of trying to manage the Nationalist revolt by using gullible people like LOLbertarians.",,Anonymous,1452457349281.jpg,wbIXUwUNF3Rivw5NXQ2YUQ==,CA,,1494018257 124257111,124280263,2017-05-05 21:04:35,>>124280088,,Anonymous,1492369622172.png,idxNgngaiRarNBjLm0n3+A==,BR,,1494018275 124257111,124280325,2017-05-05 21:05:04,">>124280088 It's not so much ""trolling"" as it is just someone repeatedly making abhorrent posts to amuse himself, ignorant that others have dismissed him long ago.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494018304 124257111,124280418,2017-05-05 21:05:48,">>124280000 wew lad checkin dem quadz",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494018348 124257111,124280426,2017-05-05 21:05:53,">>124280088 >>124280325 It's the fault of those responding, instead of disassociating.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494018353 124257111,124280551,2017-05-05 21:07:00,">>124280088 LOL! Gawd I hate being in this country sometimes. I'm actually duel US citizen. I did disavow of sorts. >>124273698",,Anonymous,1452217318659.jpg,W53vfE4ST5wLYMMJqiGfRg==,CA,,1494018420 124257111,124280582,2017-05-05 21:07:15,">>124279896 The nazi-fag are so fucking inept it's very unclear to me that they can develop any theory at all. Rather they worship pure strength and are fascinated by the mystic of eastern symbols. They're bigger autists than the ancap, which is manifested in their complete disregard for the ordinary standard of discourse. They'll randomly drop ""heil Hitler"" or some shit about the Jews in the middle of a conversation with a bout as much grace as someone losing control of his bowels. They're undisciplined and emotional. They have almost no theoretical construct with any explanatory power at all, and the only thing they have managed to do in relation to anything serious is poison IQ research by attempting to appropriate and politicize its results. Not only am I not a fan of their doctrine -- whatever that might be -- but I find them incompetent.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494018435 124257111,124280620,2017-05-05 21:07:42,">>124280426 Agreed. Oh well, what can be done, they have choosen to be baited",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494018462 124257111,124280626,2017-05-05 21:07:44,">>124279896 >“Nations by Consent: Decomposing the Nation State.” https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf Don't be a retard, The Nation =/= The State. I love my nation",,Anonymous,1493766743211.png,a7YY0OldFV2QbZLPmwC2SQ==,US,,1494018464 124257111,124280771,2017-05-05 21:08:57,">>124280620 He needs to be physically removed to be honest. He's uninvited and trespassing on this thread.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494018537 124257111,124280803,2017-05-05 21:09:12,">>124276529 None. Put yourself on that compass in the lowest rightmost spot and spend your time with something less frivolous and meganormie tier.",,Anonymous,costanza.jpg,msyp8+Jep1UzOcEviVuL+A==,BE,,1494018552 124257111,124282249,2017-05-05 21:21:45,">>124280582 You are an idiot. Alt-Right Nationalists are more intelligent than average Trump supporters. “Based on the interviews I’ve been doing, members of the alt-right are definitely higher educated [than most Trump voters]. It is a movement that is pretty technologically literate, so it is qualitatively different from the KKK of a generation ago. What some have speculated about, actually within the alt-right itself, is that one of the causes for its growth is that there is a growing number of very skilled and rather talented people who are not of the social status that one might anticipate given their levels of education. So they’re very well trained, very well educated, and they have a lot of time on their hands."" http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/beyond-alt-understanding-the-new-far-right.html",,Anonymous,1451780519593.jpg,JqQQ5tRfKX0HolDUpHbrmA==,CA,,1494019305 124257111,124282550,2017-05-05 21:24:26,">>124280626 It's to the credit of Murray that he addressed the issue of nations in the later part of his life, because in ""Power and Markets"", what he says of immigration more or less qualifies as an integral part of the perma-cuck manifesto. >If parts of the market are “under-” and parts “over” populated, the problem stems, not from human reproduction or human industry, but from artificial governmental barriers to migration. India is “overpopulated” only because its citizens will not move abroad or because other governments will not admit them. >Moreover, if other governments forbid their entry, the problem is not absolute “overpopulation,” but coercive barriers thrown up against personal migration. >The loss to everyone as consumers from shackling the interregional division of labor and the efficient location of production, should not be overlooked in considering the effects of immigration barriers. >The advocate of immigration laws who fears a reduction in his standard of living is actually misdirecting his fire. Implicitly, he believes that his geographic area now exceeds its optimum population point. What he really fears, therefore, is not so much immigration as any population growth. To be consistent, therefore, he would have to advocate compulsory birth control, to slow down the rate of population growth desired by individual parents. Here, Murray only considers the world in terms of praxeological categories. He assumes, for some reason, that our primary concern with immigration are economics as opposed to identitarian and cultural. It's not clear from his writing here if there are people in favor of ""immigration laws"" who are concerned about things other than ""reduction in [their] standards of living"". I'm just about certain that Rothbard would have opposed, quite forcefully, the migration to his country of millions of convinced commies. He could not have done so on the ground of the concepts he seem to lay out in ""Power and Markets"".",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494019466 124257111,124282597,2017-05-05 21:24:48,">>124282249 >Alt-Right Nationalists >pic of nazi they were socialists, dumbfuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494019488 124257111,124282856,2017-05-05 21:27:03,">>124261225 Nice. Refuted. Bravo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494019623 124257111,124283045,2017-05-05 21:28:45,">>124282249 >“Based on the interviews I’ve been doing, members of the alt-right are definitely higher educated [than most Trump voters]. It is a movement that is pretty technologically literate, so it is qualitatively different from the KKK of a generation ago. What some have speculated about, actually within the alt-right itself, is that one of the causes for its growth is that there is a growing number of very skilled and rather talented people who are not of the social status that one might anticipate given their levels of education. So they’re very well trained, very well educated, and they have a lot of time on their hands."" I fit that ""over trained"" category and I maintain everything I've said above. The fact of the matter is that nazi retards are utterly unable to deal with social realities and therefore cannot make inroads with normies. The very fact that they keep bringing up PR poison to legit concepts is proof enough that they have almost zero potential. Note how you present yourself as a nazi but then also pretends that swastika thumpers are somehow co-extensive with the alt-right and the new identitarian movements. They aren't.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494019725 124257111,124283232,2017-05-05 21:30:22,">>124282597 Do you not know what National Socialism means? There's two words for a reason.",,Anonymous,1450976941954.jpg,Y++ROoEF8MQ5qHRR/C8sCA==,CA,,1494019822 124257111,124283307,2017-05-05 21:31:05,">>124282550 He simply argues from a formal, value free point of view or whatever that's called. Also, let's not compare 60s Rothbard with 80s and 90s Rothbard... His final form was much more radical.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494019865 124257111,124283421,2017-05-05 21:32:10,">>124283045 No, it means many Alt-Right Nationalist people decide NOT to be corporate slaves. LOLbertarians can't wait to be a corporate slaves.",,Anonymous,1454000690232.jpg,LXWqOOONAXROcyRBm/KamA==,CA,,1494019930 124257111,124283770,2017-05-05 21:35:29,">>124283307 I agree. It's definitely possible to say that for the purpose of this essay, Rothbard does not consider anything other than praxeological categories, and thus will not consider the hypothetical situation of a communist invasion through migration in his analysis of various types of intervention. He does say: >The advocate of immigration laws who fears a reduction in his standard of living and not >The advocate of immigration laws who fears a hostile ideological or cultural take over But we must admit that the passage lends itself to an ""open borders are good"" interpretation. Of course, the context today is different. (I like Rothbard. I think his definition of categories of intervention is top notch. I just also like being critical.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494020129 124257111,124285266,2017-05-05 21:49:56,">>124264977 please read",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494020996 124257111,124285844,2017-05-05 21:54:57,">>124283421 I'm kind of always wondering what guys like you actually read.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494021297 124257111,124286715,2017-05-05 22:02:30,"What's the time limit/post limit on this thread? I've got a few questions for an caps, but I think this thread is going to be archived soon, so I think I'll ask them the next time the thread is started.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494021750 124257111,124287387,2017-05-05 22:08:19,">>124286715 300 posts is the cap on /pol/ I think",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494022099 124257111,124287706,2017-05-05 22:11:24,">>124287387 Alright, I'll do it next time then.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494022284 124257111,124288576,2017-05-05 22:20:07,">>124287706 I wanna say 360.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494022807 124257111,124288869,2017-05-05 22:23:02,Can you be a primitivist capitalist and still be consider a libertarian? I don't want any economic regulation but I do want to own some land in the mountains and just keep to myself and farm.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494022982 124257111,124289188,2017-05-05 22:25:58,back to plebbit,,Anonymous,Quaterionenadler_David_de_Negker.jpg,7LPgzJxyHfgNISqFdPgujQ==,US,,1494023158 124257111,124289226,2017-05-05 22:26:18,">>124278175 trade is a weapon how? compared to what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023178 124257111,124289328,2017-05-05 22:27:20,">>124278391 gary johnson libertarian is just a democrat and yes a globalist real libertarians are supposed to be for free markets and non government managed trade",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023240 124257111,124289367,2017-05-05 22:27:41,">>124261225 As an actual feudalist I'm insulted. These autistic children would never support a king.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023261 124257111,124289435,2017-05-05 22:28:27,">>124278457 this would not happen under freedom all monopoly is government caused shit for brains dont u dare talk down to your betters",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023307 124257111,124289629,2017-05-05 22:30:24,">>124279896 oh shut up dunce what a sperg you are to even say LOLbertarians its liek people who talk of myths liek trickle down, robber barons, and geroge bush's fault!! lol do you say stuff liek drump? you fucking left wing freak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023424 124257111,124289665,2017-05-05 22:30:48,">>124289435 >monopolies >existing *tips fedora",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023448 124257111,124289703,2017-05-05 22:31:11,">>124280088 I dunno, hes such a huge fag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023471 124257111,124289785,2017-05-05 22:31:52,">>124288869 The problem is that this may eventually interfere with the liberties of other to move close to you provided they buy the land. You could, under a private property regime, theoretically buy an island or a mountain and make it your domain but you'd have to be quite rich in order to do so.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494023512 124257111,124289808,2017-05-05 22:32:08,"friendly reminder that the right wing of the LP has hijacked actual liberty and made a sport out of mixing what you own and what you don't for the pursuit of greed. These fools dont even recognize the commons",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1494023528 124257111,124289938,2017-05-05 22:33:26,">>124289808 >positive liberty into the trash it goes",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494023606 124257111,124290007,2017-05-05 22:34:04,">>124289808 >lolbertarianism >right wing topkek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023644 124257111,124290169,2017-05-05 22:35:39,">>124289938 >positive liberty Like excluding people from land and collecting the community created economic rent? You realize youre a socialist right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023739 124257111,124290505,2017-05-05 22:38:34,">>124290169 >i'll invert the meaning of words to fuck with everyone discursive space and win State your shit clearly or not at all. You don't like the idea of private property in land?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494023914 124257111,124290618,2017-05-05 22:39:32,">>124280771 >https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf 100% he has to shut it down when too much real intellectual discussion goes on lest we come ot the conclusion israel is irrelevant as is gover ment schools and private law firms should be banned, all lawyers become min wage burocrats judges as well erase case law de regulate everything every transaction being win win is HUGE and this is why dating must change and religion msut die I am writing capitalist space novels to project some of these ideas too much scifi is democrat scifi now since 1990 star trek next generation is an abomination of man hating democrat party line horse shit if you get upset when there is a picture of 20 white people parting n having fun, then you are racist you have to get boyond this gang warfare everyone is a crony mindset most people earn it, or at least some and if someone inherits liek the inn-n-out burger girl etc, then good for them!! thier dad did an awesome job! or hek thier mom! its not the governments money you own what u create no more fed or fractional reserve banking citizens can loan to one another and form loan funds and private banks nonstop one thing capitalism would do is end the housign shortage moniopoly created by government houses would absorb tons of workers and be dirt cheap and everyonie so rich tons of upgrades would sell more n more n more liek desktop computer house would go down in price each year I will have to look at propertarian guy hopefully he is a non jew version of yaron brook and ayn rand hoppe I am still reading........the idea that some peolpe are natural leaders n protectors seems fuzzy since what happens when many claim to be protectors? hmmmmm well I gues each region coudl have them but what if someone new wants to be a protector? yaron brook is the most fun to watch on youtube I think he best speaks the ideas I agree with with the caveat that europe japs and israel really are owned by usa since we gave themwelfare to build up and def",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494023972 124257111,124290675,2017-05-05 22:40:07,">>124290169 >private property is socialist",,Anonymous,based snek.jpg,lD7hQmg6LGWRA2zwr11sMg==,CA,,1494024007 124257111,124290800,2017-05-05 22:41:08,">>124288869 capitalism will leave you alone offer best products n guns hek let u have guns grow stuff not on government approved lsit but whatever u like",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494024068 124257111,124290860,2017-05-05 22:41:37,">>124261225 >Anarcho-communism stresses egalitarianism stopped reading here. Egalitarianism is degeneracy and against human nature.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494024097 124257111,124290929,2017-05-05 22:42:17,">>124289367 king trump I dont know might be nice no lib courts to block cool stuff we want I have a feeling the founders had no idea how much power the courts would grab and use to make gov overspending sticky",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494024137 124257111,124291072,2017-05-05 22:43:38,">>124289808 capitalism would eliminate all commons no more tradjedy of the commons you dumb democrat prik",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494024218 124257111,124291143,2017-05-05 22:44:26,">>124290169 community created LOL LOL LOL things are created by individuals or do you consider corproations communities?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494024266 124257111,124291173,2017-05-05 22:44:49,">>124290860 top kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494024289 124257111,124291432,2017-05-05 22:47:23,">>124290675 He's correctly identifying a trend but his diagnostic at the end isn't accurate. Leftists (and Muslims, incidentally) love to fuck with words, to parasitize them and rid them of their original meaning so as to give it a new meaning. We can see this process at play currently with the concept of ""science"". When people think of science, they used to envision mostly (white) men in lab coat looking at a microscope or a telescope, or otherwise performing some hard measurement or writing incomprehensible formulas on a black board. People understood that this process was mysteriously linked with the curing of disease, the creation of cell phones, and the reliability of airplanes. As a result, ""science"" became a highly CREDIBLE label. The temptation is then to use this label so as to pass off something that isn't science as if it were. ""Yes goy. There are 36 genders. This is science in the same way aeronautic is science. Trust me. I am the science guy."" The end goal of the process is to make sure that ""science = leftism"", whereas before ""science = science"". It was its own thing. The example adduced by the Hoppean Snake Memes are: ""Jesus = leftism"" ""Liberty = leftism"" ""Men's right = leftism"" I don't know what to call this process but it's about stealing words.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494024443 124257111,124291806,2017-05-05 22:51:02,">>124291432 Leftists are thieves, even with words. Nothing new under the sun.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494024662 124257111,124292512,2017-05-05 22:58:16,">>124291432 I too am really curious to know if there's a name for this. It doesn't hurt happen with words: by pushing identity politics, they steal entire demographics by saying ""if your race is x or your sexuality is y you need to vote for us!""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494025096 124257111,124292780,2017-05-05 23:00:48,">>124291432 >>124291806 >>124292512 subversion",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494025248 124257111,124293290,2017-05-05 23:05:40,So libertarians believe in some government right? They aren't anarchists. What role does the government serve?,,Anonymous,suicidethink.png,SStgBGBdht+a+StDmQbCYQ==,US,,1494025540 124257111,124293561,2017-05-05 23:08:24,">>124293290 court and def",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494025704 124257111,124293869,2017-05-05 23:11:37,">>124292780 >>124291806 >>124292512 How could I forget? Let's call it ""concept subversion"" or ""label subversion"" and define subversion as the covert take over of something so as to redirect it to new purposes. There are many kinds of subversion so there needs to be a separate term for its application to words. The Muslims do the same thing also. They'll say ""feminism = Islam"" when talking to feminists, ""natsoc = Islam"" when talking to nazi (they'll cite Hitler approvingly and reference the treatment of women) or they'll say ""democracy = Islam"" etc. It's interesting to note that concept subversion has happened before. Ralph Raico describes it in his ""Liberalism: True and False"": >In Anglophone countries, those who anywhere else would be straightforwardly identified as social democrats or democratic socialists shy away from acknowledging their proper name. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that this is essentially a matter of political expediency. For some reason, labels suggestive of socialism have not been popular in countries of English heritage (cf. Gottfried 1999: 9). >This stark political fact was clear to Edward Bellamy, author of the socialist classic, Looking Backward. In 1888, in a letter to William Dean Howells, Bellamy weighed what to call his doctrine. He rejected the term, “socialist.” That was a word he “never could well stomach,” since it is foreign “in itself and equally foreign in all its suggestions.” “Whatever German and French reformers may choose to call themselves, socialist is not a good name for a party to succeed with in America,” he confided to Howells (Schiffman 1958: 370–71). Bellamy chose instead the name “nationalist.” Others, on similar grounds, have preferred the label “liberal.”",,Anonymous,Classical Liberalism and Austrian School Raico_bookstore.jpg,c+K013f2U7+7fKlDVn9Vgw==,CA,,1494025897 124257111,124293930,2017-05-05 23:12:10,">>124291806 >>124292512 >>124292780 >The social democratic commandeering of liberal met with great success, leading some laissez-faire liberals to incline towards describing themselves as individualists (Raico 1997). Amusingly, the next step was for socialists like John Dewey to try to capture that term as well. It turned out, according to Dewey, that there was an old individualism before the age of great corporations and modern social science; that kind must now be replaced by a new individualism (Dewey 1930). One product of this “new individualism” would be “a coordinating and directive council in which captains of industry and finance would meet with representatives of labor and public officials to plan the regulation” of the economy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494025930 124257111,124293991,2017-05-05 23:12:45,">>124257111 Keep up the good work gents statist boot-lickers need to learn their fucking place",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494025965 124257111,124294127,2017-05-05 23:14:07,">Libertarians worship a Russian Jew who died on welfare Explain yourselves",,Anonymous,ayn-rand.jpg,Hwh2QNcpzBAykpjJQ/eTog==,US,,1494026047 124257111,124295285,2017-05-05 23:25:58,">>124265637 >The color of my underwear is a public good. Every time",,Anonymous,itbeitdo.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,US,,1494026758 124257111,124295873,2017-05-05 23:31:17,">>124293561 Monopolies are bad so let's make a monopoly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494027077 124257111,124295898,2017-05-05 23:31:37,"How do you prevent jews from hijacking Ancapistan, since they're the best at capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494027097 124257111,124296106,2017-05-05 23:33:34,">>124295898 By outjewing them at their own game.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494027214 124257111,124296166,2017-05-05 23:34:03,">>124293869 nazis do it as well >national socialism isn't socialist, Hitler just said that to trick the left-leaning workers into voting for him, once he won the war he would have reformed the economy to free up the markets >national socialism isn't capitalist, capitalism is a Jewish tool and socialism needs to replace it >Hitler didn't hate Jews, he only hated the (((international banking clique))) that was destroying Germany >all Jews are bad and anything they say is a trick, even if they mostly agree with you >Hitler wasn't trying to conquer the world, he was just reclaiming land that rightfully belonged to Germany >Hitler had to conquer Russia because Germany needed more space to produce resources and on and on, Hitler is the Scrodinger's Cat of ideology, he believed everything and nothing at the same time until you make an argument against national socialism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494027243 124257111,124296215,2017-05-05 23:34:33,">>124294127 >National Socialists worship an Austrian meth addict who killed himself Explain yourselves",,Anonymous,hitlersmile.jpg,XP3yNUp3WzD51zyHf74X+Q==,US,,1494027273 124257111,124296244,2017-05-05 23:34:53,">>124294127 >Objectivists worship a Russian Jew who died on welfare Explained.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494027293 124257111,124299249,2017-05-06 00:05:26,">>124296166 I'm not sure they're as bad with it as ""leftism"" broadly construed and Islam. Also, I'm not sure you're applying the concept correctly. I'm not sure these things qualify as concept subversion. Notice, for instance, that in the first example the natsoc doesn't try to change the definition of free market capitalism. He's trying to say that nazism is free market capitalism, not that free market capitalism is nazism. I believe the direction of the reduction matters. For instance, Muslims will often say that western science is actually the ""natural result"" or ""only the consequence"" of the Islamic golden age. The reduction is from the west toward Islam, and the goal is to dissolve the west as a symbol into some other symbol, so that when a westerners think of ""the west"" he ends up conflating it with Islam.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494029126 124363663,124363663,2017-05-06 13:33:03,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - KILL A COMMIE FOR MOMMIE edition,Anonymous,1491259332524.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,CA,,1494077583 124363663,124363803,2017-05-06 13:34:18,,,Anonymous,1490176215654.png,AWNKk5sZJE5u7Rk5qgo1tg==,CA,,1494077658 124363663,124363877,2017-05-06 13:35:01,,,Anonymous,1491675080410.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,CA,,1494077701 124363663,124363990,2017-05-06 13:36:05,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,CA,,1494077765 124363663,124364060,2017-05-06 13:36:46,,,Anonymous,1491675143959.png,gmB77TTwNXafoJxNuCRm1Q==,CA,,1494077806 124363663,124364357,2017-05-06 13:39:54,,,Anonymous,1490467159176.png,KBFOZoVIXQaog2Kdwm/ZBA==,CA,,1494077994 124363663,124364413,2017-05-06 13:40:31,,,Anonymous,1490193494670.jpg,op35mgX+umOfdH8k2ibzZg==,CA,,1494078031 124363663,124364710,2017-05-06 13:43:39,"RAICO LECTURES: https://mises.org/library/history-struggle-liberty >The European Miracle https://mises.org/library/1-european-miracle >Classical Liberalism https://mises.org/library/2-classical-liberalism >John Stuart Mill https://mises.org/library/3-john-stuart-mill >Class and Conflict https://mises.org/library/4-class-and-conflict >War, Peace, and the Industrial Revolution https://mises.org/library/5-war-peace-and-industrial-revolution >The New World of Capitalism https://mises.org/library/6-new-world-capitalism >The Anti-Capitalists https://mises.org/library/7-anti-capitalists >The Planned Society https://mises.org/library/8-planned-society >The First World War https://mises.org/library/9-first-world-war >Classical Liberalism and the Welfare-Warfare State https://mises.org/library/10-classical-liberalism-and-welfare-warfare-state",,Anonymous,Ralph Raico 2005.jpg,0RLqG1mObGyzQkQQBJAUlg==,CA,,1494078219 124363663,124364813,2017-05-06 13:44:37,>threads keep 404ing at 300 and no one makes a new one sub edition,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494078277 124363663,124364937,2017-05-06 13:45:46,">>124364710 Raico on what happened to the word ""liberal"" in the anglophone world and why. >In Anglophone countries, those who anywhere else would be straightforwardly identified as social democrats or democratic socialists shy away from acknowledging their proper name. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that this is essentially a matter of political expediency. For some reason, labels suggestive of socialism have not been popular in countries of English heritage (cf. Gottfried 1999: 9). >This stark political fact was clear to Edward Bellamy, author of the socialist classic, Looking Backward. In 1888, in a letter to William Dean Howells, Bellamy weighed what to call his doctrine. He rejected the term, “socialist.” That was a word he “never could well stomach,” since it is foreign “in itself and equally foreign in all its suggestions.” “Whatever German and French reformers may choose to call themselves, socialist is not a good name for a party to succeed with in America,” he confided to Howells (Schiffman 1958: 370–71). Bellamy chose instead the name “nationalist.” Others, on similar grounds, have preferred the label “liberal.” >The social democratic commandeering of liberal met with great success, leading some laissez-faire liberals to incline towards describing themselves as individualists (Raico 1997). Amusingly, the next step was for socialists like John Dewey to try to capture that term as well. It turned out, according to Dewey, that there was an old individualism before the age of great corporations and modern social science; that kind must now be replaced by a new individualism (Dewey 1930). One product of this “new individualism” would be “a coordinating and directive council in which captains of industry and finance would meet with representatives of labor and public officials to plan the regulation” of the economy.",,Anonymous,Classical Liberalism and Austrian School Raico_bookstore.jpg,c+K013f2U7+7fKlDVn9Vgw==,CA,,1494078346 124363663,124365482,2017-05-06 13:50:52,Is it acceptable to bash in someone's skull who is advocating a system that will do violence to you?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494078652 124363663,124366490,2017-05-06 14:00:18,">>124363663 >no canadian libertarian/AnCap boifriendo",,Anonymous,Snake+thread_ea55db_5733515.jpg,mFOETM2O0LoKKD1AtZdYUg==,BR,,1494079218 124363663,124366775,2017-05-06 14:02:48,">>124365482 You could get blood on you. It's better to chuck them from a helicopter at 50,000 feet in the air.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494079368 124363663,124366795,2017-05-06 14:02:57,"FREE MARKET DEATH SQUADS",,Anonymous,1493754560709.png,SoP5d3E8mNpq9UkRDRPqPA==,CA,,1494079377 124363663,124366842,2017-05-06 14:03:22,">>124364710 >RAICO LECTURES: This guy was pretty based. He's dead now though.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494079402 124363663,124367596,2017-05-06 14:10:32,">>124365482 Yes",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494079832 124363663,124367906,2017-05-06 14:13:41,">>124366490 You can have muh dick instead tbqh senpai. Purest teutonic blood.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494080021 124363663,124368258,2017-05-06 14:17:11,">>124366842 He's pretty important because he's the one that can really convey how important history is in ideological warfare. Stories are easy to retain and end up forming the background knowledge against which people evaluate new propositions. Popular history is the reason people are generally anti-white, as the only thing they end up thinking about when they think of ""white people"" as a collective identity is ""historical crimes"". Likewise for capitalism. Plus, Raico really broadens your intellectual horizon beyond praxeology and natural law into the realm of historical facts. I think he's really important. (Rothbard also does this in his ""Austrian perspective on the history of economic thought"" but this is not his most widely read work, since it's a fucking two volume behemoth that concerns itself with thinkers that don't seem relevant today. Yet it's one of the best thing I've read.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494080231 124363663,124368589,2017-05-06 14:20:10,">>124367906 I am only top, m8. You have a gud white ass?",,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,niWVVIABbz23KYIsl32WUA==,BR,,1494080410 124363663,124369577,2017-05-06 14:29:19,Have you guys invested a lot in bitcoin?,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1494080959 124363663,124369911,2017-05-06 14:32:04,">>124369577 Yes, one of the best things I've ever done in my life.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494081124 124363663,124369961,2017-05-06 14:32:29,"More reading list STEPHAN KINSELLA https://mises.org/files/against-intellectual-property2pdf/download?token=PrrY1Zjq JESUS HUERTA DE SOTO http://www.univpgri-palembang.ac.id/perpus-fkip/Perpustakaan/Austrian%20School/Huerta%20de%20Soto-The%20Theory%20of%20Dynamic.pdf https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/upldbook515pdf.pdf LARKEN ROSE: http://www.mensenrechten.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-20111.pdf",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494081149 124363663,124370157,2017-05-06 14:34:04,">>124364413 Just made it edgier, so to speak.",,Anonymous,hoppe secessionism.png,oIrCczKEYERrjVyeunvHKg==,US,,1494081244 124363663,124370164,2017-05-06 14:34:06,">>124369577 Yes, and you can really save a lot using bitcoin card, like xapo, instead bank system",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494081246 124363663,124371907,2017-05-06 14:49:42,">>124366490 Please stop.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494082182 124363663,124372252,2017-05-06 14:52:46,">>124365482 correct! which is why we must murder all capitalists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494082366 124363663,124373050,2017-05-06 14:59:57,">>124372252 Thanks for openly advocating violence towards us. The NAP Gods will now be satisfied when we kill you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494082797 124363663,124374944,2017-05-06 15:16:23,"bumping for liberty, so to speak",,Anonymous,14927422740681400479280.jpg,69TumsHbkPlMj3Zf1+BcAw==,GB,,1494083783 124363663,124375181,2017-05-06 15:18:31,">>124374517 >>124374517",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494083911 124363663,124375739,2017-05-06 15:23:36,How do I become a better capitalist?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494084216 124363663,124376026,2017-05-06 15:26:02,">>124369961 Kinsella reading list when?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494084362 124363663,124376119,2017-05-06 15:26:51,">>124375739 You mean you wanna /biz/?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494084411 124363663,124377194,2017-05-06 15:37:13,"Hello everyone, I've been studying libertarian right for a while and I have some doubts. First, since government should control the market, how do you make sure that companies aren't damaging the environment or exploring people? And how do you stop polution? Second, do you really think that school should be private? That's doesn't really make sense.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494085033 124363663,124377690,2017-05-06 15:41:29,">>124377194 Also, is Anarchy, State, and Utopia worth a read?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494085289 124363663,124377716,2017-05-06 15:41:44,">>124377194 >Second, do you really think that school should be private? That's doesn't really make sense. I understand the point about the environment, but I'm not sure about this one. Care to elaborate?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494085304 124363663,124377789,2017-05-06 15:42:26,>2/19/2017,,Anonymous,Minarchist.png,DNH45ddkHpYodh+n9K/yMQ==,US,,1494085346 124363663,124377798,2017-05-06 15:42:29,">>124377194 >First, since government should control the market, how do you make sure that companies aren't damaging the environment or exploring people? And how do you stop polution? https://mises.org/library/libertarian-manifesto-pollution https://soundcloud.com/scottishliberty/only-capitalism-can-save-the-environment >Second, do you really think that school should be private? That's doesn't really make sense. Private schools across the world are already better than state schooling. The one-size-fits-all approach the state uses is a disaster. Wouldn't you agree that personalized systems of education tailored to the need of the individual are better? After all, schools are not exempt from the normal rules: competition drives a better product for cheaper.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494085349 124363663,124377822,2017-05-06 15:42:40,">>124377789 >Today What the fuck happened?",,Anonymous,Spekr.png,h5433RCnQuKkWEgOwO61Gg==,US,,1494085360 124363663,124377940,2017-05-06 15:44:00,">>124377822 You got redpilled. Post spekrs?",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170502-001159~2.png,m2WIFH+CDYOr4cB3nI1fCA==,GB,,1494085440 124363663,124378189,2017-05-06 15:46:21,">>124377789 am i cucked, brehs",,Anonymous,spekr.png,1M+Inw1MvIh+HgVUepfBEQ==,GB,,1494085581 124363663,124378787,2017-05-06 15:51:46,Am I violating the NAP if I run over protesters?,,Anonymous,d08dc9e11b0b_sf_2.jpg,SnWfuATVN4eB+0hIgfbQSg==,US,,1494085906 124363663,124378803,2017-05-06 15:51:55,">>124377716 I think that since education is a very important thing for a intelligent society, it should be advocated by government so we can ensure that everyone gets it, and gets it the same way. With private schools, people will get different educations and learn different things and in my opinion this can be bad because some schools may choose to not teach certain things. >>124377798 Thanks for the info, appreciate it! >>124377789 Pic related, some weeks ago I was deep in the left side.",,Anonymous,Capture.png,jpFayRe6Znwsj98IBIseRQ==,PT,,1494085915 124363663,124379140,2017-05-06 15:55:17,">>124378787 Do they have permission to be on that privately owned road? >>124378803 >some schools may choose to not teach certain things. Then send your kids to a different school? Maybe I'm just biased because I did go through a public school system but it's absolutely fucking garbage. School choice and private schools are the way to go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494086117 124363663,124379617,2017-05-06 15:59:46,">>124379140 Hm you convinced me. Last question: what if I decide to buy some property and start to pollute it? You can't prosecute me since it is my property.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494086386 124363663,124379688,2017-05-06 16:00:37,">>124378803 Presumably, there will be certain constraint on what parent will end up teaching their children, for the simple reason that, in a free market where people cannot force other to subsidize their way of life, the only way to earn a living will be to sell your services or property on the free market. Therefore, by giving a sub par education to your children, you will more or less insure his death or his life in poverty. Furthermore, the lack of uniformity in school curriculum is precisely what will allow competition and the emergence of a superior teaching strategies or strategies which better suit the tastes of certain parents. Further, there are many goods in society which are extremely important and who are no supported by the state. There is no a priori reason to believe that education would somehow not be provided for in the market considering all that it does provide at the moment. As some other anon as stated, the fact that one school does not teach certain thing would not matter too much provided that, as a parent, you have the choice to send your kid to a school that does teach those things you want. I fully expect that, under a free market school system, some school would specialize in sport, some other in engineering, some other in liberal knowledge, some would have this or that teaching approach, some would be high tech, some low tech, some would be male only, some other girl only, some other mixed, etc.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494086437 124363663,124379690,2017-05-06 16:00:38,">>124379617 Go ahead and ruin your property if you want m8, just make sure there's no runoff onto mine.",,Anonymous,1493932148354.jpg,G9SB6mqYvl/RcP5OJRktog==,US,,1494086438 124363663,124379789,2017-05-06 16:01:29,">>124377194 Great, another Portuguese here. >First, since government should control the market, how do you make sure that companies aren't damaging the environment or exploring people? I suppose you meant the government shouldn't control the market. Two things: there's a distinction between minarchists and anarcho-capitalists. If you're a minarchist, you believe in the existence of a state, and one of the core functions of the state would be to enforce property rights and contracts (providing justice and collective security, etc.), which also include minimum regulations when it comes to safety and standards. If you're an anarcho-capitalist like most of us here (which is why half the time the thread derails into bootlickers saying over and over again ""But how would you prevent X?"") you would advocate for the state—a territorial monopolist of ultimate decision-making and taxation—to be abolished and replaced with freely-financed insurance and defense providers. Law and defense would become just like any other market good. So, whatever side you end up on: property rights would dictate how corporations handle the environment. If a corporation installed a factory next to a town and the smoke coming out of the factory damaged the property of the townsfolk (including their own bodies through the respiratory system), those people would be able to sue the company in court, since they had been there previously and their properties were damaged by the activity. This is one example, there are many others, but to generalize you must apply property rights to all conceivable scenarios. That's how pollution would be curtailed and minimized. >Second, do you really think that school should be private? That's doesn't really make sense. State involvement in the schooling system is un-libertarian. Minarchists don't consider education to be a core function of government, and AnCaps believe any compulsory, i.e. public, state apparatus is coercive and aggressive. (1/2)",,Anonymous,cecilia.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1494086489 124363663,124379977,2017-05-06 16:03:22,">>124377194 I fucking hate public schools as a survivor of one, last thing you want is the government propagandizing your children.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494086602 124363663,124380049,2017-05-06 16:04:01,">>124377194 >Second, do you really think that school should be private? That's doesn't really make sense. Even the poor have iphones and wifi is everywhere. You have access to all of human knowledge at McDonalds, thus all that is required to learn something is the will to do so. The only function public schooling serves that a library doesn't is daycare and indoctrination.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494086641 124363663,124380093,2017-05-06 16:04:21,">>124379789 >which also include minimum regulations when it comes to safety and standards I doubt that. The enforcement of contract does not imply any kind of guarantees concerning safety and standards, unless this was implied in the contract.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494086661 124363663,124380286,2017-05-06 16:06:03,>>124372252,,Anonymous,1477383796757.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,DE,,1494086763 124363663,124380438,2017-05-06 16:07:28,"bump , so to speak",,Anonymous,1489061456090.png,v0xaTHYX88eQb2amKFrEiw==,DE,,1494086848 124363663,124380783,2017-05-06 16:10:30,">>124380286 >>124380438 Bitch you need to translate the complete work of Eugen Richter.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494087030 124363663,124381045,2017-05-06 16:12:46,">>124380783 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Richter this guy?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494087166 124363663,124381050,2017-05-06 16:12:47,">>124375739 >>124376119 pic related is capitalist essential reading I guess. That's what I like about this, it blends so easy into understanding how to make money as well. It's productive.",,Anonymous,thanks_capitalism.png,U1okrHu36czuBLkyqmstug==,US,,1494087167 124363663,124381174,2017-05-06 16:13:52,">>124381045 Yeah. And I need to translate the totality of the writings of the ""Journal des économistes"".",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494087232 124363663,124381356,2017-05-06 16:15:33,">>124379789 (2/2) State-run schools also suffer from the same problem as any other government-funded institution: they do not operate based on market signals. Ludwig von Mises made the argument (and won; socialists abandoned economic calculation after he pwned them) that socialism, i.e. government control, makes economic calculation impossible. Since there is no private property and prices are fixed instead of ever-changing due to market demands, all state services and provisions tend to be either over-produced or under-produced. (And resources are also mismanaged from one location to the other.) In the case of schools, government-controlled education creates artificial price signals for producing education. Since public schools are price-fixed, i.e. the real cost of education is kept lower than it actually is, we end up with poorer schools and less quality (overcrowding, over-usage, decrepit areas in need of restoration). When it comes to what is taught, schools also don't meet market demands. Government bureaucrats collectively decide what is taught and what isn't, and effectively monopolize knowledge (which is why schools everywhere are leftist shit holes teaching us the state is everything and socialism is glorious). If schools were 100% privatized (no state sponsoring or charter bullshit, genuine private investments) then our kids would be taught practical and in-demand ideas. They wouldn't be taught SJW bullshit or feminist lesbian theory, or any of those ""anomalies,"" they'd be taught management, economics, pure math, music, architecture, etc. Just like there is a free market in everything else, there'd be a free market in what is taught, and good schools with cheap prices would out compete all others. Since leftism is a cancer and the prospects of expanding state power through votes would not exist under minarchism/AnCap, leftist/authoritarian thought wouldn't survive in the market.",,Anonymous,ancap squad.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1494087333 124363663,124381907,2017-05-06 16:20:46,">>124380093 Safety and standards are just as attractive as high wages and employer benefits, companies would have high standards and safety in order to attract investment and human capital.",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1494087646 124363663,124381939,2017-05-06 16:21:02,">>124370157 Gonna save this, so to speak",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494087662 124363663,124382007,2017-05-06 16:21:32,">>124379789 >>124381356 That's some good explanation right here! Thanks for your time, now I am ready to shill other portubros into libertarianism. Also, check out the works of Carlos Novais Gonçalves, I think you might be interested.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494087692 124363663,124382179,2017-05-06 16:23:04,">>124382007 Thanks! Also, >implying I don't have a copy of Manifesto Anti-Keynes in my right-wing libertarian reactionary bookshelf.",,Anonymous,hoppe frog.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,PT,,1494087784 124363663,124382221,2017-05-06 16:23:26,">>124381907 Correct, but it would not be the role of the government to set some standards and then make sure companies that do not comply with said standard get fined or have their officers jailed. Under minarchism, you could sue a company for having failed to provide proper safety, but the government would not be in the business of prevention.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494087806 124363663,124382505,2017-05-06 16:26:05,">>124381174 i don't think my English skills are good enough to translate it well and in a way that the resulting text would be interesting to read",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494087965 124363663,124382590,2017-05-06 16:26:56,">>124379789 >>124381356 Based portugalbro enlightens us again, so to speak",,Anonymous,1490899945878.jpg,AqqJ6ePzqe0bITAhMaxndA==,CA,,1494088016 124363663,124382641,2017-05-06 16:27:25,"Pay tax, Macaron. :^)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494088045 124363663,124382715,2017-05-06 16:28:03,"Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years so I need to exert my problems onto other human beings by advocating for violence of the idea we call ""the government"", but I care about people. I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore that a group of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, and drugs. Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care of them anyway. Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,aclEqmQcWEnFmg9gjgBH8Q==,US,,1494088083 124363663,124382748,2017-05-06 16:28:18,">>124382590 >AntiComm You know that's probably a tranny right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494088098 124363663,124382813,2017-05-06 16:28:58,">>124382221 Oh, if the companies set the standards in their contracts and breached them by not delivering, then absolutely the minarchist government would get involved to exact compensation for the victim. But yes, I do not believe the government would be in the business of prevention, since it could not get involved the types of voluntary contracts people do with each other. >>124382590 Thank you Mad Max, so to speak insofar as.",,Anonymous,hoppe thumbs up.png,1xrQED6+FM/hRdCRFO4NzQ==,PT,,1494088138 124363663,124382923,2017-05-06 16:29:55,>Libertarians,,Anonymous,1473074777455.jpg,3labGcN/f20cMmJQd7mZ0g==,US,,1494088195 124363663,124383027,2017-05-06 16:30:42,">>124382923 >natsoc",,Anonymous,1490556132151.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,CA,,1494088242 124363663,124383103,2017-05-06 16:31:25,">>124382923 >bootlickers",,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1494088285 124363663,124383288,2017-05-06 16:32:54,">>124382715 see >>124382923 mama dada neva luvd me :( gibs me protection dada gubment! gibs me helfcare mama gubment! grow up subhuman",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494088374 124363663,124383341,2017-05-06 16:33:17,">>124382923 >not being a horse riding, ak-47 wielding, mobile crystal meth merchant Get on our level.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494088397 124363663,124383456,2017-05-06 16:34:13,">ancap queers will never know what true glory is I almost feel bad for you",,Anonymous,Mussolini-at-Palazzo-Vene-007.jpg,koi2xIvWVASKHj4f2+gQmw==,NL,,1494088453 124363663,124383462,2017-05-06 16:34:18,,,Anonymous,The_Hoppean.png,1QCNPb3j/5NciHcwIIOn3Q==,US,,1494088458 124363663,124383478,2017-05-06 16:34:27,,,Anonymous,The_General.png,/X2qF7gZZBUpAkQU+Zrunw==,US,,1494088467 124363663,124383524,2017-05-06 16:34:53,Next: The Revolutionary (for 1776ers),,Anonymous,,,US,,1494088493 124363663,124383602,2017-05-06 16:35:37,">>124382748 S U C C",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494088537 124363663,124383711,2017-05-06 16:36:36,">>124383456 >worshiping a leader instead of a system Sad.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494088596 124363663,124383774,2017-05-06 16:37:10,">>124383462 >>124383478 oh my. is there more? >>124383456 You could have your own private fascist society if you wanted to, just don't force it down other people's throats. If it makes you feel better, Hoppe said Italy was better under Mussolini than it was during democracy.",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,nvAfsdmLwP6Op/ThDMYU3g==,PT,,1494088630 124363663,124383835,2017-05-06 16:37:53,">>124383774 there will be more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494088673 124363663,124383924,2017-05-06 16:38:55,">>124383462 >>124383478 Nice.",,Anonymous,Rothbard state.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,CA,,1494088735 124363663,124383944,2017-05-06 16:39:12,"guys, if the government doesn't exist who will regulate the nail manufacturing industry? how do i know my house won't just collapse because the nails are just made out of silly putty? clearly ancap ideologically is wrong and the fact its wrong justifies the soviets starving millions of farmers and communism is perfectly okay so ancaps btfo!!",,Anonymous,1487250943656.jpg,uLPCQOHqkYFwwKAOUkn3lQ==,US,,1494088752 124363663,124383970,2017-05-06 16:39:27,">>124383774 I value the opinion of a squirrel above that of hoppe",,Anonymous,Autarchia.jpg,aiqgsHxtI1xxaAQhFJk26w==,NL,,1494088767 124363663,124384019,2017-05-06 16:40:01,>>124383103,,Anonymous,13244722.jpg,JS1ydJxTeO7KANRuDaXl8A==,US,,1494088801 124363663,124384043,2017-05-06 16:40:13,">>124383835 just clear up some minor autism things: >(so to speak) after the comma should be before >one way needs to be one-way >iron fisted is iron-fisted >needs a full stop at the end Either way, I love these man. Great OC.",,Anonymous,hoppewave 3.png,FlwzgsdnBAUB3ACvAepaUA==,PT,,1494088813 124363663,124384169,2017-05-06 16:41:21,"if the welfare state doesn't exist, who will subsidize shaneeqa's niglets and juan's tomato babies? i mean we can't have TOO many white people living happily and healthily. this is ridiculous.",,Anonymous,1484194760014.png,gd8iWQsqlJVeQiowgrMCcQ==,US,,1494088881 124363663,124384200,2017-05-06 16:41:40,">>124383970 I hope you're not afraid of heights then :^)",,Anonymous,physical removal 80s.png,FLQZpZL/imjJJIRfu8BWEw==,PT,,1494088900 124363663,124384211,2017-05-06 16:41:45,">>124379977 can confirm. Children are held hostage against their will. It was hell. The scary part is that some of them know this. >little sister in grade school asks me what taxes are while reading a grocery receipt out of curiosity (kids are weird) >give her a bluepill response about the social contract and how it gives us stuff in return because I don't want her to question things too much and get into trouble >""so we HAVE to pay it? what a meanie"" At an intuitive, foundational level, kids can grasp that something is forcing them to do X. Kids hate being forced to do anything, it's just that we punish them into being submissive little drones that as adults they're now helpless and can't think for themselves. ""Fatherland/motherland"", the state as a parental figure is obvious. My younger brother loathes high school (when they're most rebellious to be broken), and whenever I ask him why do kids have to go to skool, he just tells it straight: ""cus we have to. Fuck it I just want to go home and play video games."" Intellectual curiosity is replaced with hooking them into coping mechanisms to put up with what they know is bullshit that just gets numbed into acceptance over time. As adults we're free and to the few that look back and enjoyed it, they just think kids are being silly and don't know any better so they push for more daycare. It's crazy, really. It's a factory out there and they turn people into robots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494088905 124363663,124384298,2017-05-06 16:42:35,">>124384019 wtf I hate anarcho capitalism now",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494088955 124363663,124384389,2017-05-06 16:43:31,">>124383970 >dad never loved me so i need the state to emulate a patriarchal form of protection to fulfill myself every time >>124384019 if you drink alcohol you are subhuman garbage. the penalties in a libertarian society would be MUCH harsher than now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494089011 124363663,124384424,2017-05-06 16:43:50,">>124384200 Stop appropriating authoritarian culture",,Anonymous,Italian_Air_Force.webm,2Ry6OL7ZBy3O0bcd32vnXA==,NL,,1494089030 124363663,124384448,2017-05-06 16:44:08,upcoming Euro elections feel bad gentlemen,,Anonymous,1491166658176.png,zhztbuIQib8F6BYvBmDnLQ==,DE,,1494089048 124363663,124384483,2017-05-06 16:44:24,">>124363663 Debated gun control Again And a nigress told me that I advocated for murder kek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494089064 124363663,124384529,2017-05-06 16:44:50,">>124384424 Stop appropriating private property.",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1494089090 124363663,124384596,2017-05-06 16:45:29,>>124384483Negros,,Anonymous,molyguns.jpg,J/NjwivhPz35kIaF1tj/Xg==,US,,1494089129 124363663,124384608,2017-05-06 16:45:35,">>124363663 What now? The economically inept retards thread you say? We need to take steps to prevent its death, and show the whole world the brilliance that is right libertarianism.",,Anonymous,tread.webm,FDo2KdmCFItDgUwZFU6TTQ==,RO,,1494089135 124363663,124384644,2017-05-06 16:46:02,">>124384043 kek i should have you edit my text before i make the image how am i doing now?",,Anonymous,The_General.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1494089162 124363663,124384656,2017-05-06 16:46:10,">>124384596 would be considered subhuman and not of valid opinion in a libertarian society. Their neo cortex isn't fully functioning in most cases and have lowe IQs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494089170 124363663,124384662,2017-05-06 16:46:12,,,Anonymous,The_Hoppean.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,US,,1494089172 124363663,124384716,2017-05-06 16:46:41,">>124384389 >adhoms anon... I... >>124384529 private property is fine anon, as long as its not harmfull to the state. You loli dungeon is a no-go sadly",,Anonymous,a1ab1c07af56ddcea7f5824356ea3dbf.jpg,qQxxYfC0A86I/CMVqfthZA==,NL,,1494089201 124363663,124384971,2017-05-06 16:49:02,">>124384608 What bird is this? Easy believe that used to a dinosaur desu",,Anonymous,1478652197166.jpg,zhvt5dsgMXLG0n2Xh9fniQ==,CA,,1494089342 124363663,124385015,2017-05-06 16:49:22,">>124384716 They're just afraid of a Fascist boot coming down on them for being sodomites and other degenerates. A society of folk and family has nothing to hide but their own shame.",,Anonymous,1468894836391.png,LSX3/qZNShaszs04Ptfktg==,US,,1494089362 124363663,124385178,2017-05-06 16:50:59,">>124384716 >muh authority kys",,Anonymous,muhgubment.png,UAWP0XXyKRCx36n/vhxb0g==,US,,1494089459 124363663,124385206,2017-05-06 16:51:13,">>124384644 >>124384662 kek that's nice, thanks!",,Anonymous,hoppean anarcho capitalism.png,jHSFUY8F/GBZLyrUhClROw==,PT,,1494089473 124363663,124385217,2017-05-06 16:51:19,">>124384596 I told her that she advocated for state murder Then she told me that atleast there won't be school shootings (muh children ! ) And I responded that we already have school shootings in France HURR DURR YOU MOVE THE SUBJECT ! Frustrating as fuck",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494089479 124363663,124385283,2017-05-06 16:51:59,">>124384716 You're forgetting the ""right-"" in ""right-libertarianism"" toothpaste man.",,Anonymous,Erik_von_Kuehnelt-Leddihn.jpg,g9eN4ZjgGXZ++Dc00bERTA==,PT,,1494089519 124363663,124385338,2017-05-06 16:52:29,">>124385217 she just doesn't know that school shootings are theatre and or mind control/big pharma victims. pretty sad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494089549 124363663,124385526,2017-05-06 16:54:32,">>124384971 A secretary bird. It stomps snakes for a living.",,Anonymous,animals_hero_secretary_bird.jpg,Jw0PX/ypkPDlCJZwwVW6Uw==,RO,,1494089672 124363663,124385722,2017-05-06 16:56:07,">>124385283 Taking the fact that you are here, do you know about any libertarian party in Portugal? I would like to contribute and help the movement grow but can't find any organization.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494089767 124363663,124385797,2017-05-06 16:56:45,">>124384971 It also eats frogs. Could make for a good gommie/anarchist/anticapitalist symbol.",,Anonymous,gtfb.jpg,3Hhy5WcZsa3k7xM8mt8qWw==,RO,,1494089805 124363663,124385800,2017-05-06 16:56:47,">>124385178 none of these apply to fascism sadly for you >>124385283 >anarchism >right wing epik Xd",,Anonymous,mous.jpg,865P/kx3H3pWV+InxSWQMA==,NL,,1494089807 124363663,124386149,2017-05-06 16:59:54,">>124385722 Nope. The Mises folks have the Partido Libertário, and I think it is in the process of collecting the 7,500 signatures needed to become official, but I believe most closet libertarians and closet liberals are in CDS, and in particular in the right-wing youths and Causas (Causa Liberal, Causa Monárquica, Students For Liberty Portugal.)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494089994 124363663,124387438,2017-05-06 17:11:15,">>124375739 Participate in the black market, the freest market there is. Avoid taxation as much as possible, there are wonderful books on how to pay the LEGAL minimum of taxes, and it actually is way WAY lower than what most usually pay. On this: http://calebjonesblog.com/the-biggest-expense-of-your-entire-life/ Use apps that subvert government monopolies/cartels replacing them with voluntary cooperation: Uber, Airbnb, P2P lending, etc. And a million other things you can do like not sending your kids to government propaganda centers (public schools) and so on.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494090675 124363663,124387909,2017-05-06 17:15:18,>Ancaps,,Anonymous,ancaps.png,Ap73ETlMYKDKaMFc+LHnKg==,US,,1494090918 124363663,124388149,2017-05-06 17:17:27,">>124387909 >implying parents don't already basically own their children wew lad",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494091047 124363663,124388325,2017-05-06 17:19:03,">>124387909 >reddit",,Anonymous,"THEY, THE ADVOCATES OF NON-FAMILY, KIN-CENTERED LIFESTYLES....png",KUDOgZIEX0SO+sJkGLohcQ==,PT,,1494091143 124363663,124388412,2017-05-06 17:19:54,">>124385800 Anarchism is the true right wing. No law is more traditional than Gods law.",,Anonymous,The_Revolutionary.png,uisFkCVSJ/MT48WxUITBdQ==,US,,1494091194 124363663,124388464,2017-05-06 17:20:24,">>124387909 better bait than that desu",,Anonymous,file.png,8ndTkPJf8U4m1sIb29/erg==,GB,,1494091224 124363663,124388659,2017-05-06 17:22:15,">>124387438 >tfw I would need to Homeschool my kids (when I have one) because our private catholic schools are subverted by the government intervention in their programs Life in post-(((Léon Blum))) france is suffering",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494091335 124363663,124388781,2017-05-06 17:23:22,">>124388464 One of my favorite copypastas desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494091402 124363663,124389509,2017-05-06 17:29:48,">>124387909 Private property is logically deduced from the ownership one has over himself (therefore owning anything produced through his own labor). You can lose control of your property (as in squatters getting in your house) but that doesn't mean it isn't your property anymore, you just don't control it. Therefore you can't ""own"" a person. The person still owns itself (its own body) even if it doesn't control its body through coercion.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494091788 124363663,124389520,2017-05-06 17:29:54,bump for utopia,,Anonymous,mcambulance_saves.png,Z1B892IcGCKJouzZODOx8Q==,GB,,1494091794 124363663,124390062,2017-05-06 17:34:51,">>124389520 top kek I guess I'll post my own favorite memeball in return, yours was good and I had a chuckle",,Anonymous,1492794028962.png,z7vhBXi6weAleJA7sWNokQ==,US,,1494092091 124363663,124390133,2017-05-06 17:35:30,>>124390062,,Anonymous,ancap ball 5.png,0aTc4L8qU17NZo5X0UBtgw==,PT,,1494092130 124363663,124390201,2017-05-06 17:36:02,">>124384716 >Your loli dungeon is a no-go sadly Yeah, let's better make it a loli villa with a huge pool and unregulated cotton sugar.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494092162 124363663,124391038,2017-05-06 17:42:54,">>124384716 >You loli dungeon is a no-go sadly Don't tell me what I can and can't do with my own property, nigger.",,Anonymous,1484153199032.jpg,JaFd5ckjKDDHR1hvG6D1ag==,US,,1494092574 124363663,124391282,2017-05-06 17:44:52,">>124391038 only hellfire is strong enough to cleanse you and whoever drew that",,Anonymous,mussoliniman.jpg,GE+FnHklw7TVhlki5/ImHA==,NL,,1494092692 124363663,124391549,2017-05-06 17:47:17,">>124391038 >pee fetish why. why couldn't you just be a regular l0licºn.",,Anonymous,4f6.jpg,zkbDA+/NcbpafWTrYPKjkQ==,ES,,1494092837 124363663,124391685,2017-05-06 17:48:31,">>124391549 To be fair, I am. I just save the fucked up ones for (You)'s.",,Anonymous,1484661235183.gif,yz2mBUNU5Y9oDN0Pfp0iDQ==,US,,1494092911 124363663,124391947,2017-05-06 17:50:38,"""Anarchy is being free from government, but not from consequences."" Think this is a good quote on what anarchy really means? I think a lot of people mistake anarchy as having no consequences for actions, the root of why it's not taken seriously. They're dead wrong, it's just no government and this must be differentiated and stressed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494093038 124363663,124392342,2017-05-06 17:54:21,">>124391685 How far does the rabbit hole go anon?",,Anonymous,Capture.png,lizgKDljqAzHOgRMWp3iRQ==,US,,1494093261 124363663,124392577,2017-05-06 17:56:43,">>124391685 Oh, the typical edgy stuff to bait idiots and moralfags. It's great fun, I do it too. Stormies are so sensible and gullible it's such a great sport not to. I would pomf an Akari, though, if you get what I mean. >>124392342 anon pls source. This looks great.",,Anonymous,no brakes.png,fsltrnmgGaX8ntWIXcorFQ==,ES,,1494093403 124363663,124392734,2017-05-06 17:58:16,">>124392342 Pretty far down if you're willing to go all the way. I stopped before bottom. >>124392577 Oh I think I understand. >tfw no loli to get dominate by",,Anonymous,1487578712675.png,/8R2vaK9rfw+K1OoEyyTXw==,US,,1494093496 124363663,124393922,2017-05-06 18:09:02,">>124391947 The main conflict between anarchists is that lefties define anarchism as in ""no hierarchies"", whereas our definition of anarchism is ""no government"", defining government as any organization that orders you around and forces you to do stuff even if you don't want to. Actually, the leftist view of ""anarchy"" is imposing a local democratic government that they do not call government with the aim of preventing through violence people from acquiring property and that they bullshit themselves into thinking that it's somehow voluntary and therefore not a government. >They're dead wrong, it's just no government and this must be differentiated and stressed. Exactly.",,Anonymous,anarchism2.png,loIF+sdxueQ2mfVL6nf4TA==,ES,,1494094142 124363663,124393993,2017-05-06 18:09:37,">>124392734 >>124392577 >>124392342 >>124391685 >>124391549 >>124391038 Truly fit leaders of a voluntary capitalistic society. Give me one reason why you shouldn't all be rounded up and gassed by the state?",,Anonymous,1379201841721.jpg,TeXxvAe4kWi4R9gFk9asEQ==,US,,1494094177 124363663,124394179,2017-05-06 18:11:22,">>124393993 Because I'll shoot back, faggot. Now get in the helicopter.",,Anonymous,1488735736946.jpg,lO0ZwrII5U+lw4hHfXvT8Q==,US,,1494094282 124363663,124394399,2017-05-06 18:13:25,">>124393922 >lefties define anarchism as in ""no hierarchies"", this will never not boggle my mind. They say nobody rules over them, but the will of others rule fiercely with an iron fist. every time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494094405 124363663,124394445,2017-05-06 18:13:51,">>124366490 every fucking board there's fucking hues having the need to post anime in every thread",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494094431 124363663,124394589,2017-05-06 18:15:12,">>124394179 Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Decadence. enjoy your empty existence as your masturbate yourself to death.",,Anonymous,1393022313619.jpg,d/BFrSJBD76e4BfdQe5b+w==,US,,1494094512 124363663,124394814,2017-05-06 18:17:20,">>124393993 If you keep your degeneracy private and off the streets as these cucks do, I have no problem with letting you live in my covenant.",,Anonymous,don't tread on Miia.jpg,46vuZAv/zqMr/PIsNjbyxQ==,US,,1494094640 124363663,124394978,2017-05-06 18:18:58,">>124394814 Fine.",,Anonymous,IMG_1488.jpg,x2yP6GKlPgYinL3rqC4QDQ==,US,,1494094738 124363663,124395410,2017-05-06 18:23:05,">>124394445 >complaining about anime on an anime website I'mm too lazy to find the screencap.",,Anonymous,1482665976337.jpg,yecnRc2mNbY0LVYihZtM5A==,US,,1494094985 124363663,124395593,2017-05-06 18:25:05,">>124394399 >this will never not boggle my mind. All leftist stuff is mind boggling if you really try to think it through. Just look at libertarian slogans vs leftist tripe: ""Taxation is theft"": Self evident truth, with basic language ability can be understood as long as they apply consistently the definitions. ""Property is theft"": Nonsense, contradictory. Requires a lengthy indoctrination process to be accepted. There is one step in the process of brainwashing called ""confusing doctrine"". When the subject is sufficiently mind broken (as in after K-12 education, or after months of torture in a PoW camp) he is bombarded with nonsensical blabber that is trying to pass as his captor's doctrine, whom have guited him into making him try to gain his captor's sympathy, and will just accept it as a whole and act as told without even fully understanding it (also known as virtue signaling).",,Anonymous,lefty idiocy4.png,hNSaGlgdA7if6fe6K7wOnw==,ES,,1494095105 124363663,124395671,2017-05-06 18:25:43,">>124394589 In a capitalist society, one needs to work in order to survive. The natural condition of men as requiring production in order to live places him in a situation whereby he needs to discipline himself in order to live well. Nature imposes order on people. Only when the government intervenes in order to transfer the production of the industrious to the lazy does decadence spring up. (Right wingers of all stripes need to re-learn to be artists to be quite honest.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494095143 124363663,124396128,2017-05-06 18:29:49,">>124395593 >""Property is theft!"" >""Don't I own my body?"" >""Well yes but it's not property."" >""How can what I own be not property?"" >""Well we mean the privately owned means of productions is theft."" >""But I use my body to produce."" >""But that doesn't count."" Leftists.",,Anonymous,JuliusEvola.jpg,3ApROzS8bHGUSYyyUYQ9Rw==,CA,,1494095389 124363663,124397076,2017-05-06 18:38:45,">>124395593 >>124396128 These contradictions are so obvious and clear, yet what prohibits them from seeing it themselves?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494095925 124363663,124397290,2017-05-06 18:40:38,">>124363663 Anyone have the guy holding his glasses which the background ""it's not real socialism"" meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494096038 124363663,124398316,2017-05-06 18:50:19,">>124384448 In Europe it's either commie or almost commie, people love being treated like cattle i guess. Cause pre-socialism Europe was such a weak, insignificant shithole. Oh wait...",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494096619 124363663,124398340,2017-05-06 18:50:35,">>124397076 They are so steeped into their own bullshit they can't see anything else.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494096635 124363663,124398566,2017-05-06 18:52:40,">>124397076 Leftists seem to start from a point of high emotionality directed against what they perceive as injustice and suffering. Here's Horkheimer (a critical theorist, i.e. a Marxist) in his youth: >""By my craving for truth,"" he declares, ""will I live, and search into what I desire to know; the affected will I aid, satisfy my hatred against injustice, and vanquish the Pharisees, but above all search for love, love and understanding."" >""Who can complain of suffering, you and me? We, who are complaining that the flesh of the slaughtered gives us belly aches, are cannibals.... You enjoy your peace and property for whose sake others have to suffocate, to bleed to death . . . and to endure the most inhuman conditions."" You also have Rousseau, who claimed, in his ""Confession"" that he used to throw rocks at bigger dogs preying on weaker ones.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494096760 124363663,124398949,2017-05-06 18:56:12,">>124388659 Oy vey goyim, without the state we would all starve and die on the streets! Just let (((us))) form a nice and cosy big goverment, you just go back to watching TV...",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494096972 124363663,124399907,2017-05-06 19:04:27,Sneks,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494097467 124363663,124400649,2017-05-06 19:10:43,are,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494097843 124363663,124400812,2017-05-06 19:12:01,what is the best Rothbard book for a liberatarian interested in anarcho-capitalism?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494097921 124363663,124401505,2017-05-06 19:17:41,">>124400812 Strap in buddy https://mises.org/library/man-economy-and-state-power-and-market",,Anonymous,ancap reading.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,US,,1494098261 124363663,124401511,2017-05-06 19:17:45,">>124400812 Man, economy and the state",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494098265 124363663,124401516,2017-05-06 19:17:47,">>124400812 I like to peruse everything on the mises website. I don't know what's the best entry point in Rothbard. My intuition is that ""Ethic of liberty"" would be the one but I'm not sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ioFpg4aZs",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494098267 124363663,124401634,2017-05-06 19:18:56,">>124401511 will order on ebay, i prefer to read books to text on screen",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494098336 124363663,124401828,2017-05-06 19:20:54,">>124400812 Anatomy of the State is literally only 62 pages long and tells so much while being so short. https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf",,Anonymous,Anatomy of the State.jpg,Lw+bQoK4o77kehdqxC3ipA==,US,,1494098454 124363663,124401940,2017-05-06 19:21:51,">>124363663 Question. In an Ancap society how do you keep the border closed?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494098511 124363663,124402087,2017-05-06 19:23:05,">>124401940 their are private borders (eg your house/land) only. there is no national border",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494098585 124363663,124402191,2017-05-06 19:23:56,">>124401940 Like this",,Anonymous,image.jpg,DDyjNbMamup3/EbGlSyvag==,FR,,1494098636 124363663,124402197,2017-05-06 19:23:58,">>124401940 guns (nobody has the right to force you or anyone else to let anyone into your house, home or community)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494098638 124363663,124402254,2017-05-06 19:24:27,">>124401940 You hire people to keep it closed on your own property, while the poor suckers that keep theirs open will crash and burn if they're not selective and allow degenerates in. This means after that property crashes (as degenerates will degenerate) you can buy it for less and close its borders then to turn a profit while preserving/upholding values. It's the perfect plan and everybody except degenerates win.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494098667 124363663,124402281,2017-05-06 19:24:40,">>124401940 There may be communities of borders provided it's an association of owners agreeing on some sort of process whereby they control the access to the land they own.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494098680 124363663,124402404,2017-05-06 19:25:43,">>124400812 ""For a New Liberty"" is The Book™. It's literally ""The Libertarian Manifesto"", the book that started it all. The go-to if you want to know what really is libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism. https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto Anatomy of the State (>>124401828) is the shortest and most absolute introduction there is, yet it does a really good job. We've recommended it to many guys and they've come the next day here to post their view on it an always they were not unmoved, so to speak. I'd strongly recommend you start with these two. Just read Anatomy of the State (62 pgs) and come tomorrow to tell us about it. You won't regret it.",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,ES,,1494098743 124363663,124402436,2017-05-06 19:26:04,">>124400812 His most important contribution to economics is Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market. Then it's The Ethics of Liberty or For a New Liberty. >>124401828 is also good.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494098764 124363663,124402597,2017-05-06 19:27:24,">>124400812 Start with ""For a New Liberty"" read that before reading anything else Rothbard is that nigga",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494098844 124363663,124402949,2017-05-06 19:30:13,">>124401940 ""the border"" no. The former state is now divided into hundreds of thousands of micro jurisdictions. Ancaps do not want to abolish ""borders"", they want to multiply them. They don't believe that the government has a right to keep the streets forcefully open for anyone to roam just because. The streets should be owned and its owners (generally, the people that live in them) should decide who is allowed to step or not. That right to discrimination is what allows people to live peacefully, without undesirables nearby. So the current state of affairs in your country is two borders. The state of affairs in ancapistan is 10,000,000,000 borders..",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494099013 124363663,124403201,2017-05-06 19:32:25,">>124379789 Us libertarians should organize at some point, our party here is so small",,Anonymous,1493990370217.png,S+yqfcOC0Wj+9gR2snLXPA==,PT,,1494099145 124363663,124403404,2017-05-06 19:34:14,">>124403201 Problem is that there never was a liberal tradition in our country. We went from monarchy to dysfunctional republic to socialism. We missed out on classical liberalism, and the only times this country was doing good economically was when he had a boot to our neck (Salazar).",,Anonymous,Time Preference and Civilization.jpg,cKlFzeXm+JZfIquU+8hI5Q==,PT,,1494099254 124363663,124403450,2017-05-06 19:34:36,">>124402949 Hm that brings up an interesting point. To answer >>124401940 best then, would be say simply: You decide whether you want borders open or not on your property, and not anybody else can make that decision for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494099276 124363663,124403778,2017-05-06 19:37:27,">>124403450 Yes, and then you reap the benefits or suffer the consequences. Open borders advocates and multiculturalists would be doomed. And once the uncivilized savages they brought had negative effects on adjacent properties not even on the multiculturalists' properties they could remain. It's pic related.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1494099447 124363663,124403880,2017-05-06 19:38:20,">>124401940 You don't, because there is no border since there is no state. The only borders are the ones that exist around private property. You have to stop thinking about society in state context, friendo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494099500 124363663,124403885,2017-05-06 19:38:23,">>124403404 I don't know if some of the Salamanca liberal monks were Portuguese. (Look up Austrian Perspective on Economic Thought vol. I in to read up about them. Raico mentions them also.) It seems almost impossible for Portugal not to have a liberal tradition of some kind. There's a French, English, German, Italian liberal tradition...",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494099503 124363663,124404004,2017-05-06 19:39:36,">>124363663 The_Donald has declared war against /pol/ >>124401288",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494099576 124363663,124404491,2017-05-06 19:43:52,">>124403885 The thing is our revolution to kick out the fascist was a commie one",,Anonymous,zRADu8e.jpg,Qk1wR1qFa/mOecNqAnA01A==,PT,,1494099832 124363663,124404587,2017-05-06 19:44:55,">>124403885 I'll tell you, if there is a liberal tradition in this country I have NEVER heard about it or seen it once even indirectly.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494099895 124363663,124404859,2017-05-06 19:47:30,"This is going to sound like a batshit crazy idea but it's been on my mind. If all the Anarcho-Capitalists were to come together and purchase say, an island in the pacific to officially establish Ancapistan Island, would it prosper enough from trade and outside investment as a tax haven to militarily protect itself from outside forces and be the definitive proof that AnCap works? Imagine a purely western Singapore or Hong Kong without any of the pesky oriental heritage, just absolute western prosperity. We could purchase more islands and rule the seas protected by swarms of helicopters!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494100050 124363663,124405014,2017-05-06 19:49:01,">>124404587 More reason we should organize and spread the message",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494100141 124363663,124405017,2017-05-06 19:49:04,">>124403885 We had some, for instances, our Civil War is called Guerras Liberais (or Liberal Wars). It was fought between the Absolutist throne pretender D. Miguel and the Liberals (constitutional monarchists), by the throne pretender D. Pedro IV. But after D. Miguel lost, D. Pedro was exiled to Brazil and became D. Pedro I of Brazil. Eventually the monarchy was overthrown by (((Republicans))) and we had governments forming and tumbling every few months. It got so unstable that we resorted to Salazar, and he was no liberal (pic related). He was still the best we got for the time, no questions about it, and he did reform the economy and agriculture, kept us neutral in WW2, played with both powers, killed commies and got us into NATO and EFTA.",,Anonymous,salazar quote.jpg,9hIFFyvJ5+YyM4WqtluxnA==,PT,,1494100144 124363663,124405418,2017-05-06 19:53:00,">>124377940 Posting mine.",,Anonymous,accurateenough.png,AgTbGbZb82ZHxW0qSE2DIg==,NL,,1494100380 124363663,124405564,2017-05-06 19:54:14,">>124404587 >>124405014 The thing is: I never see anyone wanting to be right-wing. CDS and PSD are always cucking themselves; ""oh, we're not right-wing, we're moderates! We're the 'left of the right'!"" None of them oppose state intervention; none of them have the guts to take a stand against all these parasites. I hope someone hijacks one of these parties or creates on that is openly hostile to left-wing, that calls drug addicts, alcoholics, socialists et. al the degenerates they are, that are against egalitarianism and pro-aristocracy, elitist, cosmopolitan, pro-free trade. Fuck, man, I weep just to think it'll never happen.",,Anonymous,frogs.png,mLfQNRljK6sT++d9BhGRag==,PT,,1494100454 124363663,124405774,2017-05-06 19:56:06,">>124405564 How can you be pro aristocracy? Who are these people and how the fuck do they live? What services do they provide?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494100566 124363663,124405925,2017-05-06 19:57:25,>>124401940,,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,ytzpWX0KLNCi/ubvImpBkw==,GB,,1494100645 124363663,124406254,2017-05-06 20:00:15,">>124405774 When I say aristocracy I should say aristocrats, basically a party of patricians of well-taste, refined knowledge and good orators, not some bums from the backwoods. That's what I meant, man.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494100815 124363663,124406399,2017-05-06 20:01:31,">>124406254 Well that's something we should strive to be.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494100891 124363663,124406557,2017-05-06 20:02:45,">>124406399 Yes, that's what I meant. In order to contrast with the tasteless degenerates of the Socialist Party and the Left Bloc, who dress, talk and behave like bums.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494100965 124363663,124406677,2017-05-06 20:03:51,">>124366795 *McDeathSquads",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494101031 124363663,124407123,2017-05-06 20:07:38,">>124406557 That's something that has concerned me for a little while now. The left is quite good at organizing, at mobilizing people for political action, regardless of the quality of those people. It seems that there is an organizational gap between the left and the right that we ought to close. However, it cannot be that the solution to this problem would be to copy what the left is doing in terms of organization. Whatever it is that the right should become, it ought to produce a different kind of person and a different kind of hierarchy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494101258 124363663,124407455,2017-05-06 20:10:42,"If we get our own israel, can the Fashy goys hire our right wing death squads from you an caps?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494101442 124363663,124407510,2017-05-06 20:11:14,">>124407123 >The left is quite good at organizing, at mobilizing people for political action It is easy to amass people together if you lie to them. That is the left's secret, and their strength.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494101474 124363663,124407989,2017-05-06 20:15:16,">>124407123 Unfortunately I don't know how to do that. I should read Alinsky's book to see for myself what he says. I'm going to read the entirety of Reactionary Liberty and hopefully something comes out of it. Although the fact that the right is for less government and more private initiative may be why it can't organize. A state is an inherently expanding institution and creates dependence on people, and so movements which seek to reverse this have a harder time flourishing. Perhaps the future of liberty lies with other means (aka secessionism, separatism). >>124407455 Yes, we'll provide material and weapons.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1494101716 124363663,124408018,2017-05-06 20:15:30,,,Anonymous,lewylewylewy.jpg,Z2SuJdfDniRKQwPkOeJ8tA==,US,,1494101730 124363663,124408021,2017-05-06 20:15:31,">>124407455 Would you like fries with that? >>124407510 The left relies on the stories and narratives of injustices. In the world of information transmission, narratives > abstract systems. People will always remember characters, agency, and emotions better than they will some metaphysical ratiocination about natural law or argument from argument. Example of a leftist narrative: >big bad capitalist meanie head is exploiting children in sweatshops >poor refugee can't come into Europe because of meanie racist The pattern is pretty simple. Hapless victim and heartless exploiter. Once that narrative is set people will position themselves so as to be able to feel like good guys. It's an appeal to a certain sense of narcissism, not to objectively ascertainable results.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494101731 124363663,124408029,2017-05-06 20:15:33,">>124383027 We need to invent a new ideology, basically mashing anarcho-capitalism and nat-soc to get the best out of the two. Essentialy taking 2 idealistic ideologies to make one that would sustain real world problems.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494101733 124363663,124408047,2017-05-06 20:15:50,,,Anonymous,herecomdatmises.png,kHvaTQnl+UGEhKH373a5mA==,US,,1494101750 124363663,124408176,2017-05-06 20:16:51,,,Anonymous,ludwig-von-mises-606864.jpg,1TAyYM8p9heTkScoTSRH1Q==,US,,1494101811 124363663,124408312,2017-05-06 20:18:06,,,Anonymous,mmmisesontyrants.jpg,uHNe5/bdy0/yu+n/KlR9Yg==,US,,1494101886 124363663,124408332,2017-05-06 20:18:17,">>124408029 There is nothing good to salvage from nazism.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494101897 124363663,124408417,2017-05-06 20:19:05,">>124405564 You posit that AnCap would work well here, yes? What would happen to a nation which lives with such a system? Is a nation without a state truly achievable without dissolution of common identity? How would a nation like that fight off a fascist state? I also do not wish to have negroes and gypsies occupying a single spot of dirt of this land. What's stopping a foreign filthy rich globalist fat jew rat from screwing with the local market and fucking us all over? I'm interested in alternatives, most I hear is Traditional Catholic Autocracy like the Estado Novo.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494101945 124363663,124408532,2017-05-06 20:20:08,">>124408332 I'd say nationalism and physical removal.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494102008 124363663,124408548,2017-05-06 20:20:14,,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,QohK4xkwv7OjvTtlRu1HNA==,US,,1494102014 124363663,124408597,2017-05-06 20:20:40,">>124408021 If we are to reach these people without using narratives, then the decision is clear. The culture war must be won with more of what is memorable and yet extremely direct: memes.",,Anonymous,1494082736995.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,US,,1494102040 124363663,124408616,2017-05-06 20:20:50,,,Anonymous,rothbradtaxes.jpg,fvM+ntAxcVlyq379XrOXjg==,US,,1494102050 124363663,124408753,2017-05-06 20:22:13,">>124407989 >Unfortunately I don't know how to do that Any movement of the right will have to operate on the basis of the strengthening of the individual at all level, toward a system of increase of competence in every area. The left does not produce that type of person or at the very least does not appeal to individuals of these types. They usually do not recognize ideals associated with hard work, though they may work hard. They reject hierarchies of competence and likewise are not well disposed toward discipline, which they perceive as intolerable drudgery. When I envision an organization of the right, I envision small group operating together to mutually reinforce one another in a process of shared individual betterment. The degree to which this process can be automated is the degree to which the right will be able to organize on its own term. What's more, such a process of organization would have the potential to be much more long lasting than the type of social organization that the left uses. Theirs is an organizing of sporadic action and revolution. They organize to destroy, but not to sustain. They always need a clearly identified enemy which they declare to be the source of ""oppression"" that needs to be eliminated. This allow them to maintain group cohesion and sense of purpose established on the basis of a simple antagonism. (See The Function of Social Conflicts, by Coser, and Group Psychology and Political Theory by Alford)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494102133 124363663,124408784,2017-05-06 20:22:30,">>124363803 >>124363877 >>124363990 >>124364060 >>124364710 Can you compile all of this into a zippyshare?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494102150 124363663,124408849,2017-05-06 20:22:59,">>124408597 Memes are good. Images are even more powerful than narratives. (Simpler, easier to retain, somehow more information rich.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494102179 124363663,124408877,2017-05-06 20:23:13,"> Hasn't read The Law by Bastiat yet Explain yourself.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494102193 124363663,124408932,2017-05-06 20:23:39,">>124408877 >implying",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494102219 124363663,124408969,2017-05-06 20:23:53,">>124363663 Can I add that authoritarian right can fuck off as well????",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494102233 124363663,124409032,2017-05-06 20:24:33,">>124366795 This",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494102273 124363663,124409150,2017-05-06 20:25:41,"also, what are some essential ancap kino? There Will Be Blood comes to mind, looking for more good shit to watch",,Anonymous,635879540449628775494328166_There Will Be Blood.jpg,8fBu46eT/8lwXLjkzCMXUA==,US,,1494102341 124363663,124409353,2017-05-06 20:27:20,">>124401505 Here is one for after your done being an edgelord and want actual liberty",,Anonymous,Henry-George-Progress-and-Poverty-191x300.jpg,h0UPHF2qj5EJhKvgXVvK6A==,US,,1494102440 124363663,124409601,2017-05-06 20:29:44,">>124408417 My only qualm with AnCap is that it is a theory that does not take in consideration the history and mentality of populations with hundreds of years of history. I'm sure most people in our country would rather have an absolute monarchy over anarcho-capitalism; and the former would still be de facto freer than the shit we have today. As for how we'd fight against invaders, see pic related and the book in question (it's in the general). As for blacks and gypsies, if Portugal was divided into separate free cities and principalities, only those where people were adamantly opposed to negroes and copper-choppers (I just invented this kek) could be completely free of them. I'm sure cities in the South like Lisbon or further down would still remain minority-infested cities. Under ancapism, of course, the genuine evil ones would be physically removed, but the population wouldn't care about civilized blacks or whatever. So ultimately we'd be left with some places with racial diversity, and some places without. Other qualm I have is that some people might not be interested in seeing the country torn apart because they deeply care about our history and cling to the struggles our ancestors had with conquering this holy land from the moors. It would be an insult to our forefathers to dissolve the country. That's the struggle I see in having AnCapistan form here. So the alternative, and I'd fully support it, would be a Traditionalist Catholic Absolute Monarchy, and pray that the king is a harmless fool that keeps his hands off the economy rather than a power grabber. >>124408753 Damn, great post man. I fully agree. Part of the reason why I say the movement needs to be energetic, unashamedly elitist and anti-egalitarian is because we need to appeal to middle class and upper class people who have been ripped off by the state. Fuck the bum on the street or the druggie.",,Anonymous,Portugal Ancap.jpg,Tv0kuxhoAux++N1hDW85tw==,PT,,1494102584 124363663,124409698,2017-05-06 20:30:38,">>124408417 Oh my, I was going to post this pic but got so carried away with the post I posted the flag. here it is:",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1494102638 124363663,124409724,2017-05-06 20:30:55,">>124408532 Nationalism is just bootlicking. A nationalist is just a different flavor of useful idiot. And it's even worse, because with leftists they have the excuse of having been indoctrinated for decades at the public school system and college, while nationalists become willing canon fodder with just one or two staged false flags and a few months of jingoistic propaganda. Nationalists are tools that will do whatever their government commands them. You die in Iraq fighting for the ZOG Your wife gags choking on black cock You give half your wage to good ol' Uncle Sam Trayvon gets his pay for voting against republican.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494102655 124363663,124409798,2017-05-06 20:31:31,">>124408029 >sociolism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494102691 124363663,124410246,2017-05-06 20:35:35,">>124409724 I would die for my nation. Just because my ancestors spent their time fighting for this nation. My nation was fighting for freedom for a long time, so that's why I think it makes it acceptable.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494102935 124363663,124410463,2017-05-06 20:37:45,">>124409601 Why not a constitutional monarchy to keep the monarch in check regarding certain specific and essential things?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494103065 124363663,124410858,2017-05-06 20:41:27,">>124410463 Turkey is a great example of that failing. Any centralization of power especially if it is given the power of law enforcement and arbitration will seek to increase its power and perpetuate itself. The US constitution was specifically set up to limit the government and we still wound up with the hulking morass of inefficiency and extortion that we have today. Turkey is also a good example of the failure of a constitutional monarchy. Their military was explicitly charged with preventing the rise of a theocratic government and Erdogan still managed to pull it off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494103287 124363663,124410983,2017-05-06 20:42:26,">>124409601 It depends how we define elitism. There is elitism by birth and elitism by competence. I believe in the motto ""a person is whatever he is able to do at a given moment"". (I'll grant you that this is not actually a motto.) The point being that we may never categorize an individual as being this or that in a definitive manner by must always be open to the possibility that they may be better tomorrow than they are today, or superior in some area while inferior in other. Whatever the case may be, the goal is to increase the strength of the individual and then optimize his allocation as a resource in a machine the purpose of which is to defend liberty in a context of private property against all enemies foreign and domestic. I've given a lot of thought to this process lately, because it's so clear that the odds are against us. The entirety of our institutions are against us from an ideological point of view, which means the right, whatever the kind, will have to organize outside the ordinary paradigm of education currently being foisted upon us by the state. This gives rise to the problem of the creation of quality individuals able to wage an organizational and ideological battle against the clergy of the current ideology of state. But the mere training of individuals is not enough. People strive within groups. These groups have to be about more than whatever cause it is that they're fighting for. In other words, to borrow a term from the far right, there's a whole metapolitical aspect to the problem. Institutions designed to transmit a certain habitus don't merely transmit ideologies. They maintain a certain atmosphere the scope of which is not strictly political, and this also needs to be taken into consideration for the problem at hand.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494103346 124363663,124411380,2017-05-06 20:45:55,">>124410463 Well, according to Hoppe a constitutional monarchy is an even greater form of degeneration from the righteous path. The basic gestalt, and then I'll go to sleep: >absolute monarchies make the people aware of the king's unlimited powers >the distinction between the ruler(s) and the ruled is thus clearly defined, creating bonds of camaraderie between the plebeian masses >the masses are also aware that the king ought to keep his expenses to a minimum and not expropriate the property of his vassals excessively >if the King becomes tyrannical, he loses all power and becomes an enemy, breaking the social contract and losing all legitimacy Basically, if you introduce a constitution you codify and ""officialize"" the King's powers, and creates a platform for more ""duties"" to be added to the King's roster of services, which eventually degenerates into parliamentary monarchy and in the end democracy. See chapter 3 of Democracy the God that Failed for an in-depth explanation of this. It's called ""On Monarchy, Democracy, Public Opinion, and Delegitimation"".",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494103555 124363663,124411631,2017-05-06 20:48:04,">>124410858 >>124411380 Thanks",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494103684 124363663,124411635,2017-05-06 20:48:06,">>124410983 I mean elitism as in merit, through one's achievements. Only by having virtuous and charismatic leaders can our movement succeed. I'm also convinced that the concept of secession, ""private cities,"" seasteading and cryptocurrency will take away power from the state.",,Anonymous,nick land.gif,9QNJHrDShg7/A4cFQOH8rw==,PT,,1494103686 124363663,124411973,2017-05-06 20:51:27,">>124409698 tint the background image. come of the text is washed out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494103887 124363663,124412123,2017-05-06 20:52:39,">>124363663 ATTENTION ALL FROGS >>124410987 MY FINAL APPEAL >>124410987 ALL FROGS GET IN HERE >>124410987 ATTENTION ALL FROGS >>124410987 MY FINAL APPEAL >>124410987 ALL FROGS GET IN HERE >>124410987",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494103959 124363663,124412596,2017-05-06 20:56:42,">>124408029 That's what lrg does. Strong border policy and cultural traditionalism. Combined with snekonomics.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494104202 124363663,124413385,2017-05-06 21:01:12,">>124408029 I just call it historicist libertarianism. Basically, you simply recognize that liberty, as a value, is only one of many possibility, that the dogmatic justifications for the NAP, like the development of the doctrine of natural law, are after the fact rationalization of an historically contingent phenomena, and that the real fight is not so much waged on the battleground of philosophy, but rather on the material basis of the people who sustain liberty. I'm not discounting the possibility of ideological changes in people, I'm just saying that ideology may be the result of an historical process, and not of some rational calculus dreamed up by philosophers, no matter how useful these may be. What I'm driving at is that liberty is a fact of some people, not other, and you can't just expect the nations of liberty to survive if you replace their people by Muslims, Africans, Indians, etc. There's no Europe, West or liberty to speak of at that point.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494104472 124363663,124413461,2017-05-06 21:02:05,">>124363663 In 1957, the drug ""Thalidomide"" was put on the market. This drug, marketed as a solution to motion sickness for pregnant women, was soon found to cause horrifying birth defects that caused life-long health complications for those affected. The drug was soon pulled from the market, but not before over 10,000 children in 46 different countries were hideously deformed by Thalidomide. However, this never occurred in the United States. Why? Because the FDA blocked Thalidomide from being sold in the United States. Countries with less effective regulation suffered, while the United States was spared because of the regulations in place to prevent the sale of dangerous drugs. Pic-related is Frances Oldham Kelsey, the reviewer for the FDA who prevented Thalidomide from ever reaching the US market. She received the President's Award for Distinguished Federal Civilian Service from President John F. Kennedy in 1962. >libertarians BTFO forever",,Anonymous,Frances_Oldham_Kelsey_and_John_F._Kennedy.jpg,OCWWnF9zAeQ/vg4JxrX2Iw==,US,,1494104525 124363663,124414038,2017-05-06 21:08:03,">>124413461 or you know, people could just wait a bit longer study the drug for its side-effects before recklessly taking it? the women who took it, choose to took it unless it is stated that they were somehow forced to consume such drugs without consent. The women effectively choose to give their babies deformities by their poor decisions, and that's nobody's fault but their own you cannot deny this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494104883 124363663,124414072,2017-05-06 21:08:19,">>124413461 What do regulations for medicine have to do with libertarianism? It's only an argument for an-caps and is something I didn't think about before thouroughly.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494104899 124363663,124414270,2017-05-06 21:10:15,">>124414038 >WTF I love birth defects now >>124414072 Libertarians are opposed to any form of government regulation. If they had their way, thousands of babies in the US would have been hideously deformed because of Thalidomide. Luckily, the FDA prevented that from happening.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494105015 124363663,124414381,2017-05-06 21:11:21,>>124397290,,Anonymous,B4091878-7AF2-4CE5-997A-AAFEFD180040-521-00000040A5B09B72.jpg,nHArFjRUZIOzYg/Baipu1A==,US,,1494105081 124363663,124414407,2017-05-06 21:11:37,"Alright lads. I believe that Europe could be a secret ancap paradise. >Migrants and Terrorism >Disarmed Populations >Corrupt governments >Right-wing resentment >Terrible border security >Plentiful smuggling routes >Enormous potential black market for weapons = no taxes on business Europe is an ancap gun runners paradise. Anyone else thought about this?",,Anonymous,1493836665906.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1494105097 124363663,124414747,2017-05-06 21:15:05,">>124413461 >what is private regulation maybe don't buy products that aren't approved by trusted auditors and regulators?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494105305 124363663,124414796,2017-05-06 21:15:33,">>124413461 >not accounting for the people the FDA killed >not accounting for the increased price in drugs caused by the FDA >not accounting for the fact that a drug that's advertised for some purpose X by a government is much worse than a drug put on the market and advertised by pretty much no one I'm gonna bet these other places where the drug caused problems were those where the government more or less officially endorses every drug that ends up on the market, thereby training consumer to not be vigilant.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494105333 124363663,124414816,2017-05-06 21:15:50,">>124414407 You've never been to europe, have you? >>124414270 I essentialy agree with the guy above me. We're not leftists, we do not care about people. Stupid idiots die or their babies get birth defects. Freedom is essentialy an eugenics program. Wait that's called evolution. Other than that, I believe that we could still mantain a pretty free drug market with standards regulations. Also you have to look at the other side, these regulations cause big pharma and makes all of these drugs much much much more costly.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494105350 124363663,124414819,2017-05-06 21:15:51,">>124414270 >WTF I love birth defects now kek, never said that. Birth defects are terrible, there's no denying that. However, I am also saying that those women should be responsible for their actions. This is a difficult concept for women to understand. Those women birth defected their own children, not unlike a women drinking alcohol while pregnant and blaming alcohol for a baby suffering from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. >If they had their way, thousands of babies in the US would have been hideously deformed because of Thalidomide You mean the babies whose parents voluntarily decide to consume experimental drugs whose effects were not yet fully understood at the time? oh no, the humanity, we must ban all matches because people may burn themselves! It's not the person's mishandling of a match that caused the fire, the match is just dangerous and must be tightly regulated! match licenses when?!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494105351 124363663,124415087,2017-05-06 21:18:36,">>124414407 You got suppliers in the balkans as well. Lots of shit leftover from the war.",,Anonymous,balkans.jpg,vW4L+3X4fz8vnRj/H4ZDyw==,HR,,1494105516 124363663,124415338,2017-05-06 21:21:18,">>124414816 >Freedom is essentialy an eugenics program. Well I think we've just found out how to sell freedom to natsoc, whatever that's worth.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494105678 124363663,124415383,2017-05-06 21:21:40,">>124414747 >>124414819 >>124414816 >>124414796 >WTF I love birth defects now Just accept defeat. You have no argument that can solved the situation. The free market failed, and the government saved the day. Thank god we live in a world where we have regulations that keep us safe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494105700 124363663,124415461,2017-05-06 21:22:22,">>124415383 HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA. THE GOVERMENT SAVED IDIOTS. ARE YOU AN IDIOT?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494105742 124363663,124415545,2017-05-06 21:23:25,">>124415461 Idiots are people who oppose sensible regulations. You definitely belong in that category.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494105805 124363663,124415582,2017-05-06 21:23:47,">>124414816 I think it would be easy from your end. Eastern Bloc has tons of old weapons lying around. >>124415087 Exactly. I'm sure Russian Mafia and other org. Crime is already on this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494105827 124363663,124415623,2017-05-06 21:24:07,">>124382007 >check out the works of Carlos Novais Gonçalves nigga where tf do you think you are lol of course pt posters in /lrg/ know him",,Anonymous,hoppewave.jpg,ia2+0pGzR738bf2zAn3onQ==,PT,,1494105847 124363663,124415698,2017-05-06 21:24:45,">>124415383 you are aware that you're making a fool of yourself by not addressing points directed at you, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494105885 124363663,124415875,2017-05-06 21:26:18,">>124415698 You have no point. You already lost. NONE of you can offer any solution. The free market failed to stop the drug from being sold. Thankfully, the government stepped up and saved the day.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494105978 124363663,124415979,2017-05-06 21:27:28,">>124415545 I believe idiots deserve to die. That's what's keeping our societies down. Dumb people who work hard are not idiots by my definition, because they have good values. I would never buy an un-tested drug, or any product really. >>124415875 You have not responded to us saying that only people who deserve the consequences of taking an un-tested drug took it.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494106048 124363663,124416194,2017-05-06 21:29:27,">>124415875 are you going to continue echoing what you've said without actually reading >>124414819 or are you just unable to construct an argument?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494106167 124363663,124416256,2017-05-06 21:30:08,">>124415979 You don't have any points worth responding to. The simple fact is that government regulation saved thousands of babies from being deformed. Just accept defeat. Libertarians cannot offer a solution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494106208 124363663,124416463,2017-05-06 21:32:23,">>124409601 >copper-choppers ciganos*",,Anonymous,noiiiiiice.jpg,iM0TZ6Np97AkF8VxF6yHDA==,PT,,1494106343 124363663,124416475,2017-05-06 21:32:30,">>124416194 What? Still no argument? Looks like statists win again.",,Anonymous,1493344017730.jpg,Ul3WajWcXe6fAt6RnhgnGA==,US,,1494106350 124363663,124416481,2017-05-06 21:32:33,">>124416256 THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE A SOLUTION. It would actually benefit society at large. A few thousand niggers take an un-tested drug, media overblows it, the population gets redpilled on un-tested drugs, the company gets ruined for putting out a dodgy product. Win-win for everyone except dumb people, I hate dumb people.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494106353 124363663,124416546,2017-05-06 21:33:04,">>124413461 Just a reminder that lobbying efforts and corruption have caused the FDA to approve drugs that are dangerous such as >Yaz >Yasmin >Ketek >Vioxx and on and on. Not an ancap, but the FDA is shit at what it does. Also reminder if it weren't for the patent system which makes it impossible for proper competition to exist, Grunthenthal would have gone out of business.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494106384 124363663,124416675,2017-05-06 21:34:16,">>124416481 The libertarian can offer no solution. He has nothing to contribute.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494106456 124363663,124416791,2017-05-06 21:35:18,">>124415087 Any other movies like this one?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494106518 124363663,124416884,2017-05-06 21:36:10,">>124416475 well, you've now proven yourself to be a coward not to be taken seriously for the remainder of the thread by not actually addressing anything meaningfully. You've made statism even less respectful, so congrats for furthering our cause",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494106570 124363663,124416912,2017-05-06 21:36:26,">>124416546 The FDA saved thousands of babies from being deformed. You have no argument. Statists win again. Libertarians are powerless.",,Anonymous,1492640907812.jpg,qaNs+NIbAe+eoSBmIoNqQw==,US,,1494106586 124363663,124416955,2017-05-06 21:36:47,">>124416675 So you're saying, that stealing people's money in order to fund something that only further's societies problems is good? I'm offering a solution for societie's problems, all you are offering is left wing words like: ""YOU DON""T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE, THE GOVERMENT SAVES LIVES!!!""",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494106607 124363663,124417031,2017-05-06 21:37:33,">>124416791 This is the closest that comes to mind.",,Anonymous,sm--WarDogs_Intro_WarnerBros.jpg,Z1K+l50XGLMmZJrE1W0voQ==,HR,,1494106653 124363663,124417089,2017-05-06 21:38:06,">>124416955 do not bother with him my polish friend, he is not interested in discussion, just memes good for bumps in this fast board though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494106686 124363663,124417118,2017-05-06 21:38:22,">>124416912 not an argument friendo. Also Thalidomide was discovered to be a treatment for leprosy in 1964, it was only finally approved in 1998",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494106702 124363663,124417209,2017-05-06 21:39:06,">>124416884 Good, because I never took you seriously to begin with. You have no argument and you offer no solutions. Such a pathetic display does not require a serious response.",,Anonymous,1493401057364.png,FfCR4o1eHqrzKwd8rDRchw==,US,,1494106746 124363663,124417391,2017-05-06 21:40:59,">>124417089 I offer you a contract: If somehow Poland goes to shit with the way Europe is currently going, I go to your homeland and promote our ideology and have white babies. If somehow the U.S. goes to shit you can do the same. Agreed?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494106859 124363663,124417396,2017-05-06 21:41:03,">>124416955 >Birth defects are the solution to society's problems",,Anonymous,1493607587405.jpg,/s3BWM3AWP+hWtC09wwNSA==,US,,1494106863 124363663,124417593,2017-05-06 21:43:17,">>124417396 These babies will most likely not have children. Basically look at it this way: A few thousand idiots deform their children, while millions of people get redpilled on taking un-tested drugs. I'd say it's a win for society since the gene pool actually improves with the defect children most likely not having kids.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494106997 124363663,124417652,2017-05-06 21:43:58,"I wish for all of society's dregs to have birth defects. The more crippled they are, the less likely they are to breed. With no welfare, they will cease to exist. The purity of the intelligent and free can prosper further without them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494107038 124363663,124417768,2017-05-06 21:45:10,">>124417652 this. >>124417396 Also your way steals money from hard working people.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494107110 124363663,124417834,2017-05-06 21:45:48,">>124417593 I have a much better solution: >Government stops dangerous drugs from being sold >Unnecessary birth defects never happen in the first place Libertarians have no response to this. They are powerless. Their NAP prevents from the offering any solution. Thankfully, the government ignores their silly ideology and prevents dangerous drugs from being sold on the market.",,Anonymous,1493027129065.jpg,jwgYraFBpevqt/S0PtZD9Q==,US,,1494107148 124363663,124417878,2017-05-06 21:46:10,">>124417652 This guy gets it",,Anonymous,4895865.jpg,2arEM8I6VYDoXUI7JeEoOg==,HR,,1494107170 124363663,124418036,2017-05-06 21:47:45,">>124417768 >>124417768 >Libertarians caring about workers rights Now there is a laugh.",,Anonymous,1451708261474.jpg,s2dCHccGkkl+nPC8xGrIMw==,US,,1494107265 124363663,124418176,2017-05-06 21:49:07,">>124418036 Yeah. You have a right to work. That's about it.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494107347 124363663,124418220,2017-05-06 21:49:34,">>124418036 You don't have a right to steal money from people who work.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494107374 124363663,124418313,2017-05-06 21:50:28,">unironically being a lolbertarian Good goy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494107428 124363663,124418335,2017-05-06 21:50:37,">>124417118 Also beyond that you forgot that gov't agency did test them in Germany, in the UK, in France, etc. None of the agency were held accountable, they just said ""better luck next time"", introduced some token legislation, and moved right into the next failure. Had these drugs been tested by private companies whose asses were on the line, then testing would have been substantially more rigorous. Beyond that the existence of these gov't agencies have lulled the people into not being suspicious of experimental drugs. Every mother that had a potato child saw the label with some 3 letter agencies name on it and had assumed it was safe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494107437 124363663,124418337,2017-05-06 21:50:39,">>124418036 They do, they just believe having a free market is a better way to achieve that rather then having the government regulate the conditions, minimum wage etc.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1494107439 124363663,124418536,2017-05-06 21:52:38,">>124418036 It's not that crazy of an idea. The market naturally find ways to benefit the consumer, producer, and employee. Think of the guilds of the 1900s and how they provided the gold standard of workers, if you wanted to have a hardworking employee that would provide you with a good amount of work you'd hire someone backed by the guild. Guilds would also negotiate with the employer for the employee to ensure that the employee is being paid adequately and not placed inside of dangerous situations. It's not going to happen instantly but it will eventually happen, and if you don't want to join the guild you don't have to, you can continue working as a private contractor and negotiate with your employer yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494107558 124363663,124418662,2017-05-06 21:53:49,"As a pro-open borders libertarian how do you respond to an argument that historically, immigration has been harmful to the interests of the native population, even if welfare or other social programs weren't the leading incentive for people coming over?",,Anonymous,Thinking_Face_Emoji2.jpg,BnnkhvN/W2kW3WX7I+Yruw==,PL,,1494107629 124363663,124418726,2017-05-06 21:54:30,">>124418176 So everybody is a slave? Got it. >>124418220 If you benefit from government services (and you do whether you admit it or not) then it is only fair that you help pay for them. >>124418337 Nonsense. Just look at this thread! It is plainly clear that libertarians harbor an irrational hostility towards all government regulations, even ones that prevent children from being deformed at birth. The logical conclusion is that libertarians are retarded, both in terms of ethics, and in terms of intelligence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494107670 124363663,124418760,2017-05-06 21:54:52,">>124368589 You're both hues, no white here.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494107692 124363663,124418890,2017-05-06 21:56:11,">>124418726 I do not benefit from a singe one. I'd be better of with private healthcare, at school I was indoctrinated, I get taxed for working I get taxed for existing I have to pay for social security of which I will get 2 times less than I pay and probably not even that.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494107771 124363663,124419006,2017-05-06 21:57:26,">>124418536 >WTF I love child labor now",,Anonymous,2871b130988557dbeba9259f01c47029.jpg,KHGxMJiFV9vrqSWfAcRwKQ==,US,,1494107846 124363663,124419132,2017-05-06 21:58:45,">>124419006 >Child labor is the gold standard quilds would back",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494107925 124363663,124419215,2017-05-06 21:59:31,">>124419006 Tell me which you would rather have: A poor family because the father is lazy and uneducated gaining only for food for half of the family of his 5 children OR a poor family that can get food because the children are offered work and at least one of them gets educated",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494107971 124363663,124419279,2017-05-06 22:00:06,https://youtu.be/BVoqAgoiXq4,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494108006 124363663,124419285,2017-05-06 22:00:09,">>124418890 >I'm entitled to the benefits of civilization without any of the responsibilities This is how a child sees the world, only thinking of themselves. Ignorant of the bigger picture. Are libertarians mentally children? It certainly looks like it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494108009 124363663,124419295,2017-05-06 22:00:16,">>124418662 You remind them that you have selective and discriminatory policies at home. What this means is that while it's technically ""open-border"", you MUST integrate if you actually wish to remain in the long-term or be employed. This ensures that you only allow the best of the best into your property, meaning no degenerates of any kind will last very long. They are given open border to enter, but not to stay. This way, you get the benefit of other people's workers, while they lose more of their own. You will crush the opposition by bringing in the brightest and most productive, leaving them with filth!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494108016 124363663,124419331,2017-05-06 22:00:40,">m-muh property >mfw",,Anonymous,1464917146713.png,bAY8KPoEYLdyq0URRhB7Yg==,US,,1494108040 124363663,124419412,2017-05-06 22:01:35,">>124419285 I JUST FUCKING TOLD YOU I'M NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING YOU STUPID FUCK. YOU DO NOT TAX ME AND I DO NOT GET ANYTHING. PRIVATE CONTRACTORS DO MUCH BETTER WORK FOR MUCH LESS MONEY.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494108095 124363663,124419549,2017-05-06 22:03:08,">>124419215 I pick a third option. None of the children have to work and they all get educated because they live in a country with guaranteed, publicly-funded primary and second education. Child labor is illegal. >>124419412 >Autistic screeching",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494108188 124363663,124419628,2017-05-06 22:03:52,">>124408029 Neo Reaction",,Anonymous,1487543382721.jpg,teX+2mtw5s/wRBftPPMHDg==,US,,1494108232 124363663,124419695,2017-05-06 22:04:32,">>124419549 Congrats, thanks to you these poor families die of starvation and cannot get job experience.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494108272 124363663,124419774,2017-05-06 22:05:20,">>124397290 Animated",,Anonymous,1480777541809.gif,m7DPtSpreCo2Mnx4n7VUWg==,US,,1494108320 124363663,124419862,2017-05-06 22:06:21,">>124419695 Nobody dies of starvation. We have a welfare system that prevents that from happening. But you'll come up with some reason why that's a bad thing, I'm sure.",,Anonymous,1493584700388.jpg,/0NSJMd06InDAjHUA4K+gQ==,US,,1494108381 124363663,124420054,2017-05-06 22:08:20,">>124419862 Ok so now those poor families NOT ONLY cannot work for money and get job experience, they also have to WASTE THEIR TIME in school learning shit they'll never use, when they could have just learn to do a needed job, ALSO ALL OF SOCIETY HAS TO PAY FOR THEIR FUCKING EDUCATION AND FOOD. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THIS, THEY DON'T FUCKING DESERVE IT. No one deserves anything from anyone! Only you can through hard work get stuff!",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494108500 124363663,124420114,2017-05-06 22:08:56,">>124419862 >I AM SILLY every time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494108536 124363663,124420170,2017-05-06 22:09:26,>>124391038,,Anonymous,getthegas.jpg,zGP2R5AmuTyNfdjsyXykjw==,US,,1494108566 124363663,124420182,2017-05-06 22:09:36,">>124411631 But to add on to what he said, the division of power within the state is what leads to its degeneration. Imagine a company or business with a constitution or parliament. I don't mean guidelines or a charter, I mean a company that was divided against itself. The idea is absurd. We can expect Hoppean-type ""states"" to function like modern commercial enterprises, structured generally as family owned businesses (traditional monarchies) or share-issuing corporations in which the sovereigns are the shareholders who elect by majority share an executive to administrate.",,Anonymous,1488749476746.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,US,,1494108576 124363663,124420210,2017-05-06 22:09:52,">>124419774 just what I was looking for. Think you can animate this one too?",,Anonymous,1492803666929.png,dddjSwrG+ZdEBu7Anv+yQg==,US,,1494108592 124363663,124420223,2017-05-06 22:09:57,">libertarian a brainwashed childs t. social-nationalist",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1494108597 124363663,124420307,2017-05-06 22:10:53,">>124420210 This is a fucking awesome meme.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494108653 124363663,124420328,2017-05-06 22:11:11,">>124419862 >welfare",,Anonymous,libertarian degeneracy 3.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,BR,,1494108671 124363663,124420359,2017-05-06 22:11:36,"Guns should be banned in every healthy society, or it will have some retardeds cops as america has. American cops are psychopauts and should get a medical help.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1494108696 124363663,124420401,2017-05-06 22:12:07,">>124420307 Ja go nie zrozumiałem",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1494108727 124363663,124420425,2017-05-06 22:12:22,">>124420359 Please go back to hacking elections and not political debate.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494108742 124363663,124420488,2017-05-06 22:13:02,,,Anonymous,1483101630112.png,FREQMyxHmGJBImCjuqwiog==,US,,1494108782 124363663,124420499,2017-05-06 22:13:13,">>124363663 It looks like we're nearing the end of the thread. I don't intend to continue into the next one. I feel quite satisfied that statists have once again, won the day. Libertarians are powerless, and they've been reduced to autistic screeching because they are unable to offer any arguments. This is especially true for the polish one, who has been reduced to typing angrily in all-caps because he is unable to formulate even the most basic of arguments. But don't worry, I'll be back to deliver yet another well-deserved thrashing, some other time in the not-to-distant future.",,Anonymous,FBI.jpg,oB0jFbnl7IeEUhjUaR2Tgg==,US,,1494108793 124363663,124420539,2017-05-06 22:13:35,">>124420401 Chodzi o to, że Stany Zjednoczone fundują na bliskim wschodzie praktycznie każdą grupą z którą walczą inne grupy. Jak walczyli z Al-Qaidą to ufundowali ISIS itp.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494108815 124363663,124420600,2017-05-06 22:14:06,">>124420499 I went into caps because I have to deal with idiots like you every day.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494108846 124363663,124420778,2017-05-06 22:15:54,">>124420539 aaa I get it",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1494108954 124363663,124421187,2017-05-06 22:19:51,">>124420539 their supporting of Saudi Arabia is pretty wierd too they literally can rob them, force to become a normal country, and the whole normal world will only say ""thanks""",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1494109191 124363663,124422157,2017-05-06 22:30:04,,,Anonymous,marxandfriedmanonthesamepage.jpg,jQcX/dlW8Ly0ZxJ3JYAGYg==,US,,1494109804 124363663,124422236,2017-05-06 22:30:59,">>124366795 Free market desu squads",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494109859 124363663,124422510,2017-05-06 22:34:12,">>124419549 >Child labor is illegal. Child labour should be 100% legal. Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494110052 124363663,124422550,2017-05-06 22:34:45,">>124419331 Yes. We know you could attempt to take my property. We also have the ability to shoot you and we outnumber you. What now stirnercuck?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494110085 124363663,124422746,2017-05-06 22:36:48,">>124422550 bullets are a spook my blood is a spook the light fading before my eyes...all spooks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494110208 124363663,124422796,2017-05-06 22:37:12,">>124417834 >>Government stops dangerous drugs from being sold Why is the government so shit at preventing dangerous drugs reaching the market? Why is the government so effective at completely destroying effective drugs, thus killing lots of fucking people?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494110232 124363663,124422902,2017-05-06 22:38:11,">>124416912 >The FDA saved thousands of babies from being deformed The FDA had murdered millions of people by restricting access to drugs. Also have you seen million dollar baby?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494110291 124363663,124422975,2017-05-06 22:38:52,">>124422157 Friedman wasn't an Austrian economists. Chicago school.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494110332 124363663,124423031,2017-05-06 22:39:25,">>124422902 >>124416912 >Also have you seen million dollar baby? Sorry, wrong movie I meant dallas buyers club.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494110365 124363663,124423266,2017-05-06 22:41:32,">>124363663 Keep fighting the good fight bros, the boot-licking statists need to BTFO",,Anonymous,1493541988440.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,CA,,1494110492 124363663,124423562,2017-05-06 22:44:31,">>124423266 Is this gal Ancap-tan or something or an actual character?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494110671 124363663,124423799,2017-05-06 22:46:42,">>124423266 Remember when that british guy drew pic related and said he was going to draw more anime ancap pictures but he NEVER did. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE We need more of this.",,Anonymous,0019242360932.jpg,tB7UXDdyDY6/RxdVZwhMoQ==,CA,,1494110802 124463876,124463876,2017-05-07 07:04:08,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of capitalism, libertarianism, paleolibertarianism, anarcho-capitalism, minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ Did you know that /bant/ belongs to us?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,right wing safety squads.png,gchCiGmPhEMh3sVOTVCitQ==,AU,,1494140648 124463876,124463889,2017-05-07 07:04:17,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494140657 124463876,124463908,2017-05-07 07:04:35,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494140675 124463876,124463935,2017-05-07 07:04:52,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494140692 124463876,124463990,2017-05-07 07:05:44,li/bant/arian general,,Anonymous,Anti-Communist Action.png,quvKx2DlSvA0SyLrVFEdjg==,AU,,1494140744 124463876,124464844,2017-05-07 07:16:02,"Reading Anatomy of the State today, what should be next on my reading list? God That Failed, New Liberty, or something else?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494141362 124463876,124464954,2017-05-07 07:17:19,"Thoughs, /aynpol/?",,Anonymous,political compass explained 05.png,BjEuPgAGCXUJVK+HBf9hgw==,ZA,,1494141439 124463876,124465232,2017-05-07 07:21:04,">>124464844 God That Failed. Otherwise, if you haven't read Based Ayn Rand's essays and novels yet, get started right now. You'll be kicking yourself you didn't do it earlier - and you'll see why she is possibly the most demonized, hated and discredited intellectual figure in today's leftist environment.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1494141664 124463876,124465883,2017-05-07 07:29:10,">>124463876 >>124463889 >>124463908 >tl;dr",,Anonymous,ancap nazi 3.jpg,tmAULVzRnigkmAeFrMQW+g==,SI,,1494142150 124463876,124466143,2017-05-07 07:32:44,">>124465232 I've been reading some of Rand's novels; halfway through Atlas Shrugged now actually. Not thought to look at her later papers but I'll definitely get around to it.",,Anonymous,1493996630107.jpg,2T4onCkjieqD0t/o8BMs3Q==,GB,,1494142364 124463876,124466837,2017-05-07 07:41:18,">>124466143 The Randpill is a relatively litle known redpill even on AnCap/LibRight oriented boards. Perhaps not quite the final redpill, but fairly close, I think. It's not just a political redpill - it's a metaphysical, epistemological and moral redpill as well. It doesn't just change what you think, but how you think as well. Prepare for a wild ride.",,Anonymous,socialism brain.png,qsizYLDYn24dEXspW5NpKw==,ZA,,1494142878 124463876,124467214,2017-05-07 07:45:42,">>124463876 SAVE ME FROM THIS COMMIE ""COUNTRY""",,Anonymous,1492884191906.jpg,YNkwtVONLPfmcFC7j3dpyQ==,TR,,1494143142 124463876,124468679,2017-05-07 08:02:30,">>124467214 remove erdogan",,Anonymous,apu handy.png,PsuE8JPSb+XGlmMf6H8jRw==,AU,,1494144150 124463876,124469261,2017-05-07 08:09:25,"How do we realistically end Social Security and Medicare? Those two thing are going to destroy our country.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494144565 124463876,124470093,2017-05-07 08:19:06,">>124469261 The most efficient and most ethical way to end liberal economic policies is secession",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494145146 124559602,124559602,2017-05-07 18:07:28,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Politics, Money and Banking — Hans-Hermann Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjdwzZAj-yE",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: FUCK YOU FROGS EDITION,Anonymous,you talkin to me.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,PT,,1494180448 124559602,124560419,2017-05-07 18:13:34,Fellow Portuguese reporting in,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494180814 124559602,124560698,2017-05-07 18:15:37,">>124560419 Nice. Are you the guy who was here yesterday wanting to know about schools?",,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,PT,,1494180937 124559602,124560747,2017-05-07 18:15:57,"Comment on this please. >>124558963",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494180957 124559602,124560947,2017-05-07 18:17:26,">>124560698 That's right! All my questions were answered and I started to shill other people into libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494181046 124559602,124561167,2017-05-07 18:18:59,">>124560747 Answered his own question. Unfortunately we let the movement be appropriated by the ""class of permanent adolescents"" (see pic related), but hopefully we can retake our movement back from them. Also, anarchism will be achieved in our lifetime or at least be closer to with cryptocurrency, black markets, separation, secession and segregation. Right now we have to focus on destroying the EU. >>124560947 Glad to have another tuga on board. We're 5 now here kek",,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1494181139 124559602,124561241,2017-05-07 18:19:33,">>124559602 Nice maymay, I like the reference. May I save it?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1494181173 124559602,124561320,2017-05-07 18:20:14,">>124561241 It's all yours my friend. Have some more.",,Anonymous,hoppe secessionism.png,oIrCczKEYERrjVyeunvHKg==,PT,,1494181214 124559602,124561734,2017-05-07 18:23:09,,,Anonymous,anarcho-cute 2.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,PT,,1494181389 124559602,124561803,2017-05-07 18:23:36,,,Anonymous,based anime ancap grill.png,SoP5d3E8mNpq9UkRDRPqPA==,PT,,1494181416 124559602,124562362,2017-05-07 18:27:40,">>124559602 Good thread, meu amigo.",,Anonymous,1492355973838.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,AU,,1494181660 124559602,124562885,2017-05-07 18:31:34,">>124559602 wassap portubro(s) >>124560747 This so much, I fucking hate these fucks. It's why i feel the need to give tough love to those brazil and canada posters. its why im such an asshole reactionary natsoc sympathizer. If it were up to me they'd be put in camps.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1494181894 124559602,124562995,2017-05-07 18:32:24,">>124562362 Thank you based Mad Max Emo Warrior.",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1494181944 124559602,124563188,2017-05-07 18:33:45,">>124559602 bump.",,Anonymous,1492203268370.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,US,,1494182025 124559602,124563362,2017-05-07 18:35:04,">Someone actually said to me that ""All the problems we have in America right now are due to lack of goverment intervention""",,Anonymous,scroll scroll.jpg,wFzf+fO/AzzBzKwBz1RnDw==,US,,1494182104 124559602,124563410,2017-05-07 18:35:32,">>124559602 Isn't the libertarian party the ones that wanted to ban ""assault weapons "" last election? The pro immigration ones?? Minarchism seems ok but you libertarians are too cucked .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494182132 124559602,124563495,2017-05-07 18:36:08,">>124563362 You know What Must Be Done™.",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1494182168 124559602,124563503,2017-05-07 18:36:11,">>124563410 Nah Gary was just a fucking cuck. He didn't really represent Libertarians, which is why no one fucking voted for him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494182171 124559602,124563525,2017-05-07 18:36:23,">>124562885 might I add that it's not enough that we so vocally reject open-borders, multiculturalism and so on. they just adapt to the meta and continue spreading their garbage. Look at me! I like Hoppe and hate open borders but im a BASED FAGGOT.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494182183 124559602,124563769,2017-05-07 18:38:04,">>124561167 make it 6 but i just lurk",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494182284 124559602,124563816,2017-05-07 18:38:24,">>124563410 You're not wrong, the libertarian party is cucked. But I don't think anyone in this thread supports that party. Right-libertarianism is better than any other ideology you can name. >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - Realistic Libertarianism as Right-Libertarianism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4",,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,US,,1494182304 124559602,124563921,2017-05-07 18:39:07,">>124563816 >That video Nice, thanks a lot anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494182347 124559602,124563950,2017-05-07 18:39:24,">>124563769 Glad to have you on board too senpai.",,Anonymous,Erik_von_Kuehnelt-Leddihn.jpg,g9eN4ZjgGXZ++Dc00bERTA==,PT,,1494182364 124559602,124564301,2017-05-07 18:42:02,"Am I correct in thinking that Libertarian beliefs basically come down to ""live and let live"" along with minimal goverment? If so sign me up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494182522 124559602,124564511,2017-05-07 18:43:44,">>124564301 Yup. ""Live and let live"" can be restricted further down in specific places to accommodate the wishes of certain people but that's about it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494182624 124559602,124564779,2017-05-07 18:45:42,">>124561167 >>124563769 >>124563950 >diaspora fags count?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494182742 124559602,124564861,2017-05-07 18:46:15,">>124563816 >>124563503 Too bad we have a two-party dictatorship and this stuff will be implemented because anyone who can effect real change is ignored by the media/ shutdown in favour of easily corruptible candidates.",,Anonymous,1494113562604.jpg,cZa+o9iHHNAEQJf42C4VhQ==,US,,1494182775 124559602,124565024,2017-05-07 18:47:22,">>124564779 Yes of course. Physical removal is everyone's duty.",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1494182842 124559602,124565119,2017-05-07 18:48:03,">>124564861 I mean never be implemented*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494182883 124559602,124565141,2017-05-07 18:48:13,What do you guys think about Rothbard's plan that would've united paleoconservatives and libertarians against the establishment?,,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,PT,,1494182893 124559602,124565340,2017-05-07 18:49:34,">>124564301 Generally speaking. Minimal or no government leads people to rely more on community, charity and funding for services that benefit everyone. https://mises.org/library/how-entrepreneurs-make-society-better",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494182974 124559602,124565417,2017-05-07 18:50:16,,,Anonymous,LibertarianPartyUK.png,SuMvbvL2BIX4yTBCzmQQIQ==,GB,,1494183016 124559602,124565577,2017-05-07 18:51:30,">>124560747 I agree completely with your second paragraph. The biggest problem libertarianism has is the number of people who confuse it for libertinism. It attracts too many people who have no understanding of the underlying principles involved but simply want to have their drug-usage and sexual kinks normalised. I think the solution is to do what most Austrian School libertarians advocate: simply ignore politics altogether. Fuck the ""Libertarian"" Party, and all the Chicago School cucks. Stop treating it as a political movement, and stop trying to gather support by advocating for a specific political platform. Treat it as a philosophy and seeks to spread its principles. Once the principles have been adopted the policies will take care of themselves.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494183090 124559602,124565683,2017-05-07 18:52:18,">>124564301 Well yeah but you have to realize that ""live and let live"" also means ""if you're dying in the middle of the street and I don't feel like helping you can't compel me to"". It's no hippy shit.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494183138 124559602,124565873,2017-05-07 18:53:42,">>124562885 I'm new to all this, what exactly is the issue of egalitarianism? It seems reasonable to me, unless there's some extreme people bring it to that I'm not thinking of.",,Anonymous,3 (2).jpg,VZPJfwyI+d6b19wFajE7Ww==,US,,1494183222 124559602,124566014,2017-05-07 18:54:45,">>124565683 Oh yeah I know. That's what I believe too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494183285 124559602,124566061,2017-05-07 18:55:04,">>124564301 It's more about decentralizing power to the individual level. You can have big government and a ""live and let live"" attitude (""I pay taxes fuck off I do what I want"").",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494183304 124559602,124566115,2017-05-07 18:55:29,">>124559602 >>124560419 pic related awaits you",,Anonymous,1480794931485.png,WiK9rM+grB2kWoGnaZCMqg==,PT,,1494183329 124559602,124566542,2017-05-07 18:58:29,"WTF I LOVE MY COUNTRY NAO BRAZIL ANCAP",,Anonymous,World Ancap.png,WvnSaCeLwT0XWleAbZQXrg==,BR,,1494183509 124559602,124566714,2017-05-07 18:59:56,Rate snek,,Anonymous,IMG_20170506_205621.jpg,4/XcQ4ouu33LFXscUgOHDg==,NO,,1494183596 124559602,124567005,2017-05-07 19:01:48,">>124565873 Equality under the law is the only valid type of equality. Equality of outcome or so-called ""social justice"" are forms of governmental redistribution and spark the entitlement mentality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494183708 124559602,124567102,2017-05-07 19:02:25,">>124565873 >I'm new to all this, what exactly is the issue of egalitarianism? Depends what egalitarianism is for you. Does it mean the equalization of certain outcome through the use of force? Does it mean the absence of discrimination? Does it merely mean that the same law should apply to all people? Usually, the issue with egalitarianism first and foremost is that it's false as a matter of fact. All people differs along many dimension in such a way that the idea of making them equal is a pipe dream attempting to realize a falsehood. The second problem is that, since egalitarianism in its material form is based on a falsehood and a type of unnaturalness, the attempt to implement it will necessarily require force to compel people to act in ways they would not have otherwise acted, thereby violating people's private property and bringing about sub-optimal outcome as a result. Here, I think specifically of programs such as affirmative action, who imply that subpar student should somehow have access to high level institutions on the basis of ""equality"".",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494183745 124559602,124567227,2017-05-07 19:03:23,>it's another honey pot thread,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494183803 124559602,124567264,2017-05-07 19:03:41,"Macron winning was the right thing right? Le Pen may have been anti-EU, but her socialist views would have been pretty fucking shitty for France.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494183821 124559602,124567333,2017-05-07 19:04:10,">>124565873 Forced egalitarianism is not real egalitarianism",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1494183850 124559602,124567421,2017-05-07 19:04:51,">>124567005 >>124567102 Ah alright, that's not what I thought it meant, yeah I can see the issues with it now, thanks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494183891 124559602,124567431,2017-05-07 19:04:54,">>124567264 Macron is some fucking cuck whose policy will result in the end of France and any hope of seeing liberty ever rise out of that shithole again.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494183894 124559602,124567580,2017-05-07 19:06:09,">>124566542 What does this map represent? Is it just a map people can freely add markers to? Sorry, I the site doesn't have anything except links to learn about AnCap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494183969 124559602,124567638,2017-05-07 19:06:34,">>124559602 I say we export multiculturalism to Israel!!! Return madness to it's source!!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494183994 124559602,124567848,2017-05-07 19:08:21,">>124567580 Yes, you identify yourself as ancap with your location. Some markers are ideed fake or have been done for the lulz, but if you look in São Paulo, for example, most markers are legit.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494184101 124559602,124568051,2017-05-07 19:09:49,">>124567638 >those platitudes >those exclamation marks What the fuck is happening to /pol/ lately...",,Anonymous,constanza.jpg,dtwO6WDrg6inYzSJUvXNbA==,AU,,1494184189 124559602,124568090,2017-05-07 19:10:06,">>124567431 isn't he a libertarian though? I know he's weak on immigration, but otherwise?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494184206 124559602,124568245,2017-05-07 19:11:20,">>124568090 >supporting the EU >libertarian Strong doubts.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494184280 124559602,124568410,2017-05-07 19:12:33,">>124568051 Fuck of faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494184353 124559602,124568472,2017-05-07 19:12:59,"Considering that 2/3rds of illegal immigrants take some form of welfare, if we took down the welfare state would a lot of them just leave of their own volition? This could mean that if we had an open borders libertarian state it'd still be better for the low-skilled worker because the state isn't subsidizing cheap labor to stick around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494184379 124559602,124568480,2017-05-07 19:13:01,">>124568090 >against private discrimination >libertarian",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494184381 124559602,124568490,2017-05-07 19:13:04,fuck commies my dudes,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494184384 124559602,124568694,2017-05-07 19:14:36,">>124567638 >>124568410 Looks like summer started early this year",,Anonymous,1491149897637.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,CA,,1494184476 124559602,124568883,2017-05-07 19:15:46,">>124568490 Fuck commies indeed",,Anonymous,1490191958396.png,HHULeUtWGXWzu3SdUfgSLQ==,CA,,1494184546 124559602,124568907,2017-05-07 19:15:58,">>124568694 Whatever m7, fuck off or contribute real dialogue",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494184558 124559602,124568973,2017-05-07 19:16:31,">>124568472 Open border makes little sense if there's a system of citizenship or a democratic system. For instance, is everyone in the world just allowed to vote? Do they instantly become citizen? If so, what's to prevent the flood of immigrant from voting in socialists? Open borders doesn't work at all unless you're some sort of ancap whose view of borders is that they should be set up by communities of private property owners. If there's a government at all it's very unclear that there can ever be open borders. t. anti open border minarchist",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494184591 124559602,124569264,2017-05-07 19:18:52,">>124568973 Open or closed, just privatize borders. Let the fucking leftists pay for their own pet refugee's.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494184732 124559602,124569324,2017-05-07 19:19:22,">>124568907 >/pol/ >real dialogue >""export multiculti to Israel!!!"" >real dialogue",,Anonymous,Hank.png,6C4J8EqrbW6/k5GwxJYbCQ==,AU,,1494184762 124559602,124569507,2017-05-07 19:20:50,">>124568973 I'm just wondering if we got to the point where the state is just subsidizing cheap labor and simply removing the welfare state would result in the same outcome as deporting millions of illegals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494184850 124559602,124569510,2017-05-07 19:20:51,">>124567264 More mudslimes and niggers for France (and Europe as a whole) means more rape, theft, and murder. These problems are going to become apparent to those leftist twats and they, along with people of other political affiliations, will eventually elect authoritarian candidates to get rid of these problems and necessarily restrict freedom, so I wouldn't call Macron's victory a win",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494184851 124559602,124569558,2017-05-07 19:21:18,">>124559602 skull and bones is an inside job",,Anonymous,tim-russert.jpg,T1EIEkpgF/JHSGitN0j0rg==,US,,1494184878 124559602,124569685,2017-05-07 19:22:11,">>124568090 he's a neoliberal, not the same thing as a libertarian. He's way closer to libertarian ideas than Le Pen, but not libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494184931 124559602,124569798,2017-05-07 19:23:03,">>124566115 >bootlicker",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1494184983 124559602,124570021,2017-05-07 19:24:48,,,Anonymous,Hans.png,XmYwOisaJUyD4JNf2eozLg==,AU,,1494185088 124559602,124570082,2017-05-07 19:25:20,">>124569507 Probably not and this simply for the reason that western nations have things other than welfare to entice immigrants. Namely, they have political and cultural norms immigrants can profit from. They know that by coming here they won't just be shot in the back of the head by warlords or dictator. Basically, we're way too nice relative to the other peoples of the world. Not that we're nice with our foreign policy. We drone people all the way to hell, and our corporations don't give a shit about foreign workers. But our domestic population is cucked beyond belief, and thus ripe for abuse and exploitation.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494185120 124559602,124570102,2017-05-07 19:25:32,,,Anonymous,the general - minarchism.png,/X2qF7gZZBUpAkQU+Zrunw==,CA,,1494185132 124559602,124570195,2017-05-07 19:26:15,,,Anonymous,hoppean libertarianism.png,1QCNPb3j/5NciHcwIIOn3Q==,CA,,1494185175 124559602,124570356,2017-05-07 19:27:37,">>124563816 I'd love to see Hoppe debate Chomsky, that senile mother fucker who thinks he knows shit about the libertarian movement",,Anonymous,1490467159176.png,KBFOZoVIXQaog2Kdwm/ZBA==,CA,,1494185257 124559602,124570366,2017-05-07 19:27:43,">>124569507 That might work in the long run but it would probably be messy and would lower the standard of living across the board. The welfare state has created a social unrest bubble. Just look at the very localized outages of EBT card systems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoL8j3Q0AR4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494185263 124559602,124570504,2017-05-07 19:28:54,">>124569324 Zozzle, have a (you), Jew. You'll be blacked soon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494185334 124559602,124570723,2017-05-07 19:30:49,">>124570504 >zozzle Straight from /b/. Clearly a summerfag",,Anonymous,1492902686643.jpg,zenwHaM/kPKg8jj5h6pC+g==,CA,,1494185449 124559602,124570802,2017-05-07 19:31:30,">>124561167 I'm a little confused, does he have an issue with the things he listed (Vulgarity, obscenity, etc) and if so, why exactly? Honestly this is making me feel like an idiot because I'm having trouble comprehending the whole thing.",,Anonymous,come on boy.jpg,SECtFW/BDMjSpzkQGuO+qQ==,US,,1494185490 124559602,124570947,2017-05-07 19:32:39,">>124565141 I see an attack on the underclass but what about all the corporations and businesses that have used the state to give themselves an unfair advantage. All of those need to be stripped away and copyright needs to be reduced as well. Its not a fee market if a few corporations have secured themselves near monopolies thanks to the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494185559 124559602,124571020,2017-05-07 19:33:16,">>124570504 >being this asspained >being this unable to handle the bantz >being this new Enjoy your stay, summer.",,Anonymous,1448362593857.jpg,5JCNG+rCtM+B1/iHTRok7w==,AU,,1494185596 124559602,124571046,2017-05-07 19:33:25,">>124570802 >does he have an issue with the things he listed (Vulgarity, obscenity, etc) No. Hoppe's extremely socially conservative. And from a libertarian perspective, there's nothing morally wrong with obscenity and vulgarity because neither violate the physical integrity of one's body or private property.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494185605 124559602,124571103,2017-05-07 19:33:59,">>124570802 He obviously does. But more to the point he has an issue with the fact that people of a certain quality ended up shaping the public perception of a movement whose philosophical root and objectives don't have much to do with social libertarianism. This is why libertarians ended up being associated with drug use.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494185639 124559602,124571113,2017-05-07 19:34:07,">>124570723 Of course. Your future is assured, Jew boi. Multiculturalism Israel is best Israel. :) Also, you don't need a reaction pic Everytime, unless of course your a bot. Honestly, I don't know why you're paying me so much replies...unless...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494185647 124559602,124571255,2017-05-07 19:35:06,">>124570102 >>124570195 kek delete those, I have new ones and edited text",,Anonymous,The_Hoppean.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,US,,1494185706 124559602,124571274,2017-05-07 19:35:16,,,Anonymous,The_General.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1494185716 124559602,124571282,2017-05-07 19:35:20,">>124571020 Give me more replies, make Israel a Multicultural Paradise™ for all. :)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494185720 124559602,124571292,2017-05-07 19:35:25,,,Anonymous,The_Revolutionary.png,2ssgcChsCmIMFr3M8+A/Zw==,US,,1494185725 124559602,124571312,2017-05-07 19:35:35,,,Anonymous,The_Reactionary.png,a9mKWWlXab4tPn2c5nqSDQ==,US,,1494185735 124559602,124571351,2017-05-07 19:35:53,">>124571046 >>124571103 So basically he has an issue with it on a personal level but recognizes on a more objective one it's fair game, gotcha.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494185753 124559602,124571477,2017-05-07 19:36:55,">>124570802 He's just commenting on what the libertarian party/movement has become (dude weed lmao, peace and love, hippies, drugs, etc.) and how worthless people with no skills saw in it a way of escapism. People who were absolutely irredeemable, incompetent and lazy flocked to libertarianism because the ""live and let live"" attitude made them think working people would be okay with their attitudes. So Hoppe says that a true libertarian movement must resist and disassociate itself from those people. Instead of pandering to disenfranchised special snowflakes, bums and losers, they it should appeal to working men and women and their families, who have been the ones subsidizing all other lifestyles and conceivable forms of degeneracy.",,Anonymous,1493839398072m.jpg,kMDxm3rM6JXP3AnF1nch0g==,PT,,1494185815 124559602,124571516,2017-05-07 19:37:11,">>124571113 >you don't need a reaction pic Everytime, unless of course your a bot >unless of course your a bot Bots can't post because we have a captcha, newfriend.",,Anonymous,embarrassing.png,A8uURbxzCqDcduhUw4sbEQ==,CA,,1494185831 124559602,124571720,2017-05-07 19:39:03,">>124571292 Fuck man you got another typo there Kek >must be shed to in order to",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494185943 124559602,124571839,2017-05-07 19:40:02,">>124571516 Yes. We do. Of course no one could ever figure out a way around them. I'll take this at face value and accept my error. Now, to start to make Israel a Multicultural beacon of light for the world to follow. I'll start with convincing the islamists that Judaism is their true enemy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494186002 124559602,124572128,2017-05-07 19:42:33,">>124571720 thank you senpai. i don't see this shit when ive been looking at it for a long time. is this good?",,Anonymous,The_Revolutionary.png,V1/wvwPgIK9i7A5zk9Wldg==,US,,1494186153 124559602,124572298,2017-05-07 19:43:58,">>124566714 V v nice",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494186238 124559602,124572455,2017-05-07 19:45:25,>>124566115,,Anonymous,cbb836f959889fa5ca85705f6caa85365cd96db24bbffb0330ee6b30fff24f00.jpg,rjP8CYJzKQltzPfiVRHLXQ==,US,,1494186325 124559602,124572592,2017-05-07 19:46:25,">>124571282 >>124571113 >>124571839 >when you're such a hyper-sensitive, neurotic ideologue that you go on a jew-naming sperg rage at the slightest sign of contradiction It's actually surprising how much of a giveaway those exclamation marks were...",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494186385 124559602,124572699,2017-05-07 19:47:27,">>124572592 What's wrong with a multicultural Israel? In my country, it is said that multiculturalism is our greatest strength. I want a strong Israel.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494186447 124559602,124572825,2017-05-07 19:48:28,">>124565577 >libertinism I've always taken libertarianism as you can do whatever if you can afford it. If they keep it to themselves then they can do so but once they can't afford it then I don't see many people willing to give them charity without conforming. And if they revealed their hedonism on social media then no company will hire them. The problem begins with these ""left-libertarians"" who believe their lifestyle should be subsidized, the anti-discrimination laws are a good thing, and should go even further by stopping companies from making decisions based on their social media accounts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494186508 124559602,124572958,2017-05-07 19:49:32,">>124572592 Thanks man, all these replies are really helping me spread the message. My dream is to give Israel the gift of Multiculturalism™.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494186572 124559602,124573072,2017-05-07 19:50:38,">>124572958 yeah that's pretty good, fuck the kikes. why is everybody bumming on you man?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494186638 124559602,124573181,2017-05-07 19:51:44,">>124572825 Even worse, they believe their alternative lifestyles should become official government doctrine, forcefully presented to children so as to make sure they consider it normal and acceptable, and then prevent people from not associating with them on the basis of said lifestyle.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494186704 124559602,124573316,2017-05-07 19:52:46,">>124570082 >Probably not and this simply for the reason that western nations have things other than welfare to entice immigrants. Then why is it that there's stories of immigrants leaving because the weather is too cold and that these migrants tend to shop around for benefits? It's probably just a minority of them but I think without welfare most everyone except the real refugees would leave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494186766 124559602,124573325,2017-05-07 19:52:52,">>124573072 >>124572699 Spread the message friends, ""Multicultural™ Israel is best Israel®""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494186772 124559602,124573663,2017-05-07 19:56:06,">>124573316 >Then why is it that there's stories of immigrants leaving because the weather is too cold and that these migrants tend to shop around for benefits? Outliers do not a trend make. First, I'm sure there will be immigrants who will MENTION the weather as one of the reason for their leaving. Second, I'm SURE immigrants will shop around for benefits. This does not mean that they come ONLY for the benefits, but merely that they're trying to maximize their benefit payoff, which is normal. The fact of the matter is that the west has a lot of quality infrastructure the immigrants might wish to live in, as well as a considerable amount of ""social capital"" he might profit from. Meaning: the immigrant is there to profit from westerner's niceness, from the confidence he can have that he's not gonna be lynched in the middle of the street.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494186966 124559602,124574135,2017-05-07 20:00:09,">>124572825 The real crux of the issue is government involvement. If people want to take drugs and engage in all manner of sexually-deviant behaviour, I'm not greatly concerned. The problem occurs when people try to use the government as a means of sanctifying their behaviour; trying to have the government declare their behaviour as being above reproach. Allowing people to engage in certain behaviour is one thing, coercing people into agreeing with it is another. Demanding that school children be taught to think a certain way about certain forms of behaviour, or that these behaviours must be allowed in public and cannot be criticised without fear of coercive force, is flatly anti-libertarian. It's a sort of realtivistic egalitarianism where every form of behaviour is to be treated as being indistinguishable, as though there are no possible criticisms or distinctions to be made, either morally, culturally, or biologically.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494187209 124559602,124574892,2017-05-07 20:06:28,"How to achieve a libertarian society: 1. Get a young traditional wife 2. Get a fine job 3. Make tons of babies 4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other) 5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing 6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants Godspeed.",,^~,value-tradition.jpg,8p0WYXtekHiPC39W3firjw==,PT,,1494187588 124559602,124575070,2017-05-07 20:07:55,">>124574135 >>124572825",,Anonymous,Case for discrimination.jpg,P3h8C6brDqGrWlkS+m4U7g==,CA,,1494187675 124559602,124575194,2017-05-07 20:08:59,">>124563188 So if I get this picture right, could some of those ""privately owned microstates"" divert from libertarianism, as in for example be national socialist or communist or whatnot?",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1494187739 124559602,124575320,2017-05-07 20:10:05,">>124574892 >6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants. I do this shit.I have a family crest that ive placed in all sorts of family projects. btw that image is amazing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494187805 124559602,124575718,2017-05-07 20:13:17,">>124574892 same shit here.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494187997 124559602,124575752,2017-05-07 20:13:35,">>124575194 Yes of course. They would fail tho, and they would blame it on the other micro""states"". >>124575320 Good for you, teach your younglings to reject socialism and degeneracy and weakness of the mind and soul. Teach them to love the idea of family so they feel responsible to be great people. Go for it anon!",,^~,,,PT,,1494188015 124559602,124575918,2017-05-07 20:14:59,">>124575194 They could only do so by creating a strong enough military to conquer the other states. Because the people would start fleeing the moment they got too far from libertarianism. If they were peaceful they would just fail.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494188099 124559602,124576401,2017-05-07 20:18:59,">>124575070 Here's a good lecture on the issue. It's from the Property and Freedom Society (Hoppe's organisation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKNRor5clsI >>124574892 Seconding this. Success of libertarian principles seems to be largely dependent on the same thing that ancient philosophers thought the well-ordered society was dependent on: namely, individual virtue. You cannot change society for the better without first changing yourself for the better.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494188339 124559602,124576429,2017-05-07 20:19:12,What is paleolibertarianism?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494188352 124559602,124576491,2017-05-07 20:19:42,">>124574892 >tfw I am a noble descendant My duty is going full Übermensch",,Anonymous,image.jpg,OQEEbktOjfePuJuBK36gpw==,FR,,1494188382 124559602,124576494,2017-05-07 20:19:43,">>124575918 >Because the people would start fleeing the moment they got too far from libertarianism. Assuming they wouldnt? I personally would be pretty happy with living in natsoc Germany and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be alone with this here. >If they were peaceful they would just fail. >>124575752 >They would fail tho Assuming that's true (pretty baseless assertion though), then that should be alright within that libertarian frame, no?",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1494188383 124559602,124576562,2017-05-07 20:20:21,">>124576429 Libertarianism with conservative social beliefs, rothbard and lew rockwell came up with the term to seperate themselves from the faggot leftist libertarians.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1494188421 124559602,124576652,2017-05-07 20:21:03,">>124576429 Being libertarian and having conservative/reactionary values What we all are here basically",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494188463 124559602,124576752,2017-05-07 20:21:49,">>124576429 It's essentially the combination of pale-conservative (think Pat Buchanan, Paul Gottfried) social values and libertarian economic/civil principles.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494188509 124559602,124576828,2017-05-07 20:22:22,">>124576652 what we better all be here. cucks get out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494188542 124559602,124576879,2017-05-07 20:22:43,">>124574892 Very solid advice.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494188563 124559602,124577204,2017-05-07 20:25:26,">>124576401 Will watch.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494188726 124559602,124577452,2017-05-07 20:27:39,Kekistan would undoubtedly be ancap,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494188859 124559602,124577486,2017-05-07 20:27:56,">>124576429 Correct libertarianism. Most libertarians seem to think that ethics is objective while morality isn't, and so think that libertarianism is morally neutral. But you can make both moral and utilitarian arguments for a non-neutral libertarianism, you can base it on a religion, but also on traditionalism or conservatism because certain moral precepts, especially those that resemble ""natural"" social structures, favour a property-respecting society, while ""progressive morals"" favour the opposite.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494188876 124559602,124577680,2017-05-07 20:29:28,">>124577452 It would have to be, no one would respect the monopoly of some /b/tard fags rule.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494188968 124559602,124577724,2017-05-07 20:29:48,">>124576401 >individual virtue Yes, libertarians must be the mirror of what we want in a society. Be successful to prove your ideals true. >>124576491 Value your traditions and family and bend your younglings. >>124576494 >pretty baseless assertion though It isn't. Socialism fails because there's no proper pricing and thus no economic calculation and thus far from optimal allocation of resources. But yes people, in an ""ancap"" society, could socialize their resources with each other, no problem in that. >>124577452 Shut the fuck up with that kekistani cringy faggotry. Praise kek tho. >>124576879 Apply it to yourself, and don't settle for women while you're very young.",,^~,,,PT,,1494188988 124559602,124577739,2017-05-07 20:29:57,"Thoughts on Ayn Rand? She gets a lot of hate due to her proclamation that selfishness is a positive virtue, but what she says does make sense; the people who dismiss her philosophy due to her advocacy of self love seems quite ignorant of objectivism and its desired outcomes. I wanna see what you guys think of her and objectivism",,Anonymous,aynrand.jpg,xnh5dSvIa+iQULJkw4JRxw==,CA,,1494188997 124559602,124577782,2017-05-07 20:30:19,">>124559602 >/pol/ - Politically Incorrect you country is the armpit of spain",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494189019 124559602,124577869,2017-05-07 20:30:59,"I have another question for you guys if you don't mind answering. I see Hoppe's healthcare solution involves completely deregulating the medical industry, but is that realistic? How is the average citizens supposed to know if a doctor is any good? Or that a drug is properly tested and such?",,Anonymous,thinking.jpg,jT0Twy0xuW4rV4UVEmX2CA==,US,,1494189059 124559602,124578164,2017-05-07 20:33:25,">>124577869 >How is the average citizens supposed to know if a doctor is any good? Or that a drug is properly tested and such? How the fuck should they not know. Wouldn't you pay for guarantees like that? There would businesses focused on that, lowering the prices of that service by competing.",,^~,,,PT,,1494189205 124559602,124578304,2017-05-07 20:34:22,">>124577869 >How is the average citizens supposed to know if a doctor is any good? Or that a drug is properly tested and such? akin to natural selection, the bad doctors will be compelled to abandon medical care with better doctors present. Darwinism follows from the establishment of the free market because people are driven to consume whats best for them, or what they think is best at least",,Anonymous,1490899945878.jpg,AqqJ6ePzqe0bITAhMaxndA==,CA,,1494189262 124559602,124578330,2017-05-07 20:34:33,">>124577486 With all due respect, what in the loving fuck are you talking about? If your argument is that there can be religious justifications of private property, that's fine as far as it goes. But then you would also be saying that the religious framework is above and beyond the principles set out within libertarianism, so that the religion used to justify some aspect of libertarianism may also be used subsequently to override some other aspect of it, at which point it wouldn't be libertarianism any longer.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494189273 124559602,124578416,2017-05-07 20:35:13,">>124576562 >>124576652 Damn, I was hoping it was anarco-capitalism mashed with anarcho-primitivism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494189313 124559602,124578491,2017-05-07 20:35:52,">>124577739 I love her speech to American business men on youtube about Communism. She is damn right about the moral cannabalism that is altruism, statism masquerading as ethics and she's right that conservatives have sought to con people be trying to sneak freedom on them as if to someday wake up in a free society rather than defending and advocating it loudly, proudly and with full conviction. Too long conservatives have ceded the moral highground to immoral ""progressives"", I think Molymeme is right she's an intellectual titan often misunderstood but she's not perfect.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494189352 124559602,124578505,2017-05-07 20:35:56,">>124577739 i think her use of ""selfishness"" gets interpreted to meaning as only caring about her own well being and not caring about morals. she explains in an interview that putting your loved ones ahead of your own well being is also a selfish desire. she dismissed libertarians I imagine for the same reason many of us here do, but shes pretty much a proto-ancap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494189356 124559602,124578533,2017-05-07 20:36:09,">>124578164 I suppose that's a good point, I was thinking in the current context, since even now there's no way for me to find a review or something similar on my current doctor. Also now thinking, perhaps licensing could still be optional.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494189369 124559602,124578605,2017-05-07 20:36:45,">>124578416 >no technology >free market ???",,Anonymous,1490140819443.jpg,7g1XBZvSMdm5PbWTSlci0w==,US,,1494189405 124559602,124578669,2017-05-07 20:37:18,I fucking love capitalism and I swear to you anyone who doesnt is a lazy fucking nigger. Who doesnt believe me?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494189438 124559602,124578777,2017-05-07 20:38:11,">>124578491 well said >>124578505 >she explains in an interview that putting your loved ones ahead of your own well being is also a selfish desire. I think this was controversial statement, but I don't see a problem with it. It makes perfect sense",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494189491 124559602,124578782,2017-05-07 20:38:16,">>124578669 Nazis want white people to be welfare queens.",,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1494189496 124559602,124578869,2017-05-07 20:38:56,">>124578416 >I was hoping it was anarco-capitalism mashed with anarcho-primitivism. Pre-industrial anarchism ? Dude it will fail unto a malthusian trap and a shiton of people would die Unless you're a Farmer,with guns",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494189536 124559602,124579023,2017-05-07 20:40:16,">>124559602 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ",,Anonymous,541795422.jpg,435TtXbCbA9cQP6j1rAN+g==,US,,1494189616 124559602,124579036,2017-05-07 20:40:22,">>124578533 >even now there's no way for me to find a review Because the market is regulated and the state inspects it there's a monopoly in ""reviewing"" doctors. This process would be passed to everyone, in a competing market for better results, if medical practices were to be deregulated.",,^~,,,PT,,1494189622 124559602,124579037,2017-05-07 20:40:23,">>124578605 No technology BUT the free market was what I was thinking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494189623 124559602,124579160,2017-05-07 20:41:28,">>124577739 Brilliant women and one of the greatest to ever live. Atlas Shrugged is amazing and her speeches and interviews and gold.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494189688 124559602,124579328,2017-05-07 20:42:51,">>124578533 Also keep in mind there would be no state for big pharma to lobby and try to artificially raise the price of drugs by imposing all sorts of red-tape on small competitors. Also no IPs or patents, so drugs would be cheap and plentiful. New and revolutionary procedures wouldn't be slowed down by the state but done with visionary doctors and willing patients.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494189771 124559602,124579348,2017-05-07 20:43:03,">>124578330 Well, you're right. I don't consider myself a libertarian, technically, because I don't agree with the rationalistic foundations of ethics libertarianism endorses, but in a divine command type of ethics. In that way, I am an anarcho-capitalist, in practice, but the way I come to that conclusion is not through libertarianism. If we exclude religion, paleolibertarianism becomes nothing but utilitarianism, because it wants to preserve some moral patterns only because it makes libertarianism more probable to become reality, but not because that morality is correct.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494189783 124559602,124579405,2017-05-07 20:43:30,">>124578416 >anarcho-capitalism mashed with anarcho-primitivism I don't think such a thing could exist in reality. Intelligent life such as human beings are naturally inclined to develop technologically in the presence of threats to our survival, and will do such a thing with the freedom to do so, which an anarcho-capitalist society would provide",,Anonymous,1491835921478.png,xrXmVjteJIePEL4mzUgNcA==,CA,,1494189810 124559602,124579501,2017-05-07 20:44:14,"Tucker deserves more respect from the broader Liberty movement. He's one of the most positive faces of Liberty that's very appealing to the masses, incredibly intelligent and there aint a cunt alive who's read more Libertarian and Statist writtings than this guy, he constantly revisits liberty classics for people too lazy to read/understand them and always shows how famous Classical Liberals/Libertarians are often misunderstood. Plus cunts got style. I like how he helps keep people from being too cynical, we need some optimism in the movement not just perpetual pessimism. We also need some people that advocate subjectively for enlightenment Liberal values or else everyone will be turned away from excessive ""bigotry"" if I can use that word without sounding like a faggot.",,Anonymous,tucker.jpg,6nGAw6DE/KuXPfTloTfyvQ==,AU,,1494189854 124559602,124579884,2017-05-07 20:47:18,"Is the game ""Free Cities"" an accurate representation of an ancap society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494190038 124559602,124580026,2017-05-07 20:48:27,">>124579501 It's good that we have people like him helping our movement >We also need some people that advocate subjectively for enlightenment Liberal values or else everyone will be turned away from excessive ""bigotry"" if I can use that word without sounding like a faggot. Agreed. Presenting everybody with Hoppe's teachings would do us any justice",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494190107 124559602,124580146,2017-05-07 20:49:23,">>124579884 I'm not sure about Fee Cities, but EVE Online definitely is",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494190163 124559602,124580597,2017-05-07 20:52:53,"cheers to all in the thread, glad to be on ""your side"", if i am on one at all is there a certain category or classification for a penal system within a libertarian form of gub'mint in which all non-violations of the NAP are completely unrestricted but minor violations are punished with forced labour and grievous violations or repeat violations are punished with the noose? of course this isn't at all realistic- wouldn't trust many jurisdictions in the U.S. with a fucking potato gun much less power to quickly execute folk, but in an idealistic thought-experiment it seems the best to me t. representative of the delegation from God's own Dixie",,Anonymous,1485666171561.jpg,iKx3UeRwnVxKN3b4SnouSg==,US,,1494190373 124559602,124580768,2017-05-07 20:54:21,">>124579501 I think we all have our favored lesser known llibertarian figures. RAICO LECTURES: https://mises.org/library/history-struggle-liberty >The European Miracle https://mises.org/library/1-european-miracle >Classical Liberalism https://mises.org/library/2-classical-liberalism >John Stuart Mill https://mises.org/library/3-john-stuart-mill >Class and Conflict https://mises.org/library/4-class-and-conflict >War, Peace, and the Industrial Revolution https://mises.org/library/5-war-peace-and-industrial-revolution >The New World of Capitalism https://mises.org/library/6-new-world-capitalism >The Anti-Capitalists https://mises.org/library/7-anti-capitalists >The Planned Society https://mises.org/library/8-planned-society >The First World War https://mises.org/library/9-first-world-war >Classical Liberalism and the Welfare-Warfare State https://mises.org/library/10-classical-liberalism-and-welfare-warfare-state",,Anonymous,Ralph Raico 2005.jpg,0RLqG1mObGyzQkQQBJAUlg==,CA,,1494190461 124559602,124580832,2017-05-07 20:54:50,the NAP is a spook,,Anonymous,1484850679588.png,qyNKGD7y4yN3wDTuS2LC9A==,US,,1494190490 124559602,124581319,2017-05-07 20:59:07,">>124580768 >classical liberalism the only acceptable form of liberalism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494190747 124559602,124581354,2017-05-07 20:59:25,">>124580832 Your ego is a spook",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494190765 124559602,124581477,2017-05-07 21:00:28,">>124581319 It's a bit cuckish. I don't like it for that reason. t. nationalist libertarian",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494190828 124559602,124581525,2017-05-07 21:00:54,">>124580597 >is there a certain category or classification for a penal system within a libertarian form of gub'mint in which all non-violations of the NAP are completely unrestricted but minor violations are punished with forced labour and grievous violations or repeat violations are punished with the noose? Rothbard said that punishment for crimes must be proportionate. A crime must be seen as someone revoking another person's rights. So if I stole you 10,000 dollars, I'd have to return to you 20,000 dollars (the original amount plus the amount I forfeited my rights to) plus interests and the money it was needed for the investigation. If I beat you up and broke your nose, you'd have the right to also beat me up and break my nose. Only murder, howeve, which is the ultimate crime, can ever warrant a death penalty. A murderer permanently loses his right to self ownership and thus becomes a slave in perpetuity until the victim's heirs/legal representatives decide what they should do with you.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494190854 124559602,124581729,2017-05-07 21:02:40,">>124559602 >Property >Rights",,Anonymous,1493344017730.jpg,Ul3WajWcXe6fAt6RnhgnGA==,US,,1494190960 124559602,124581913,2017-05-07 21:04:19,">>124581525 Understood. For me, it is rather less about a sense of justice and more about...maybe you could call it soft eugenics? Not based in empirical data (although maybe supported by it), but I do reckon that a rather brutal culling of individuals with violent tendencies would tidy up any society quite well; not simply because those individuals are unable to commit any future crimes but because they are also unable to reproduce and create offspring with little real ability to lift themselves out of criminal behavior catalyzed by necessity (poverty) or socialization (thug life etc)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494191059 124559602,124582064,2017-05-07 21:05:29,">>124581729 Is killing you a spook?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494191129 124559602,124582070,2017-05-07 21:05:33,">>124581525 If someone broke my nose, could I instead get money from them? Would there be a way to equate the value?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494191133 124559602,124582119,2017-05-07 21:05:57,">>124581477 >It's a bit cuckish That's why I'm not a classical libertarian, but I respect the movement itself; John Locke's teachings are especially appealing because of they're noble and ""pure"", so to speak. While I agree with the movement since its in accordance with my primary moral principle (the right of self-ownership), my secondary moral principles draw the line between my adopted variant of libertarianism and classical liberalism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494191157 124559602,124582164,2017-05-07 21:06:24,">>124582119 >That's why I'm not a classical libertarian, classical liberal*",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494191184 124559602,124582273,2017-05-07 21:07:20,">>124582064 >Crazed libertarian tries to kill you >Police immediately arrests him Wow, thanks government! You've always got my back.",,Anonymous,quote-should-any-political-party-attempt-to-abolish-social-security-unemployment-insurance-dwight-d-eisenhower-8-76-15.jpg,swtJ+kmmVNMd7FlCwTPqCw==,US,,1494191240 124559602,124582368,2017-05-07 21:08:04,">>124581913 Culling the herd would absolutely happen under AnCapistan. Property owners would want to live anywhere near criminals. Pic related.",,Anonymous,1486501317082.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1494191284 124559602,124582395,2017-05-07 21:08:20,>>124581729,,Anonymous,hoppe-vs-stirner.png,TeH8OoNDCmu0IV9JpjQLNw==,US,,1494191300 124559602,124582528,2017-05-07 21:09:38,">>124582395 >>124581729 What's a spook?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494191378 124559602,124582539,2017-05-07 21:09:46,">>124582273 >crazed egoist tries to rob you >police immediately arrests him",,Anonymous,1481447479785.jpg,e9KiBF6yUYfgMPi2qRtM4A==,CA,,1494191386 124559602,124582600,2017-05-07 21:10:25,">>124582070 Yes of course. It's even likely this would happen many times since money is, after all, a widely recognized medium of exchange and some people would rather receive money from wrongdoers than seeing them beat up. I remember Rothbard saying that in the Old West or Confederate America or something similar there was the concept of a criminal working his way out of a sentence.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494191425 124559602,124582624,2017-05-07 21:10:35,,,Anonymous,raico quote.jpg,7BYCGV2jGApiKRrtYUOIcw==,CA,,1494191435 124559602,124582658,2017-05-07 21:10:55,">>124579501 Eh, I'll pass on the Tucker. I admit he's not that bad, I'm just not down with his optimistic vibe and besides there's only room for one Tucker in my heart.",,Anonymous,1489200410125.png,SMxYnkE6ByYfK61Yn0EHpg==,US,,1494191455 124559602,124582711,2017-05-07 21:11:22,">>124582528 ""Spook"" is the meme term used to describe putative concepts that egoist philosophers like Stirner claimed are nonexistent (rights, freedom, etc.). It's the philolsopher's way of saying ""it's a social construct"".",,Anonymous,Maxine Stirner.jpg,WP+5LnlpTYmQkYZo7OHbEA==,US,,1494191482 124559602,124582837,2017-05-07 21:12:29,">>124582395 This picture doesn't even contain a counter-argument. It's completely useless. Why are libertarians completely incapable of defending their viewpoints?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494191549 124559602,124582846,2017-05-07 21:12:36,">>124582624 beautifully said",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494191556 124559602,124583166,2017-05-07 21:15:31,"When will you take the real red pill ;) Btw try to explain Marxism fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494191731 124559602,124583184,2017-05-07 21:15:41,">>124582837 Lol You simple minded commie. you own yourself, this is a fact of nature. To argue against property using your body, your words is demonstrating property rights. It's like saying gravity is a spook while falling to your death.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494191741 124559602,124583327,2017-05-07 21:17:04,">>124582837 Fine, have this a priori proof of property rights written by a resident canadabro.",,Anonymous,property argumentation.png,1GLal6ufGAt6Yl7qCDCtAA==,US,,1494191824 124559602,124583440,2017-05-07 21:18:08,">>124583184 By that logic, you cannot claim real ownership over anything that isn't part of your body.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494191888 124559602,124583629,2017-05-07 21:19:41,">>124583327 Good to see my own post screen-capped. I'm currently developing an improved one and I am confident that it's perfect",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494191981 124559602,124583705,2017-05-07 21:20:20,">>124583440 Wrong again shit-lib, being that you own your body you are responsible for the consequences of your actions. If you construct a home you are responsible for it's existence and therefore you OWN it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494192020 124559602,124583725,2017-05-07 21:20:34,">>124583327 That argument doesn't make any sense. Private property is simply a social construct. The government sets rules for property rights. If property rights were natural, then you would not need a government to enforce them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494192034 124559602,124583737,2017-05-07 21:20:41,">>124583629 will be perfect* Fuck my grammar",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494192041 124559602,124583859,2017-05-07 21:21:49,">>124583440 You own and are responsible for yourself, your action and the effects of those actions. Property can only be a spook if ""self/ego"" is a spook. Might be plausible but does fuck all for society desu.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494192109 124559602,124584002,2017-05-07 21:23:01,">>124583725 >If property rights were natural, then you would not need a government to enforce them. Yes. You don't need a government to enforce property rights. Welcome to /lrg/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494192181 124559602,124584169,2017-05-07 21:24:48,">>124583725 >Private property is simply a social construct. The government sets rules for property rights. If property rights were natural, then you would not need a government to enforce them. That post was meant to provide ethical validation for private property",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494192288 124559602,124584201,2017-05-07 21:25:07,">>124583705 >If you construct a home you are responsible for it's existence and therefore you OWN it. That's an opinion, not a fact. Most houses are built by more than 1 person. Who owns the house then? >>124584002 But you do need a government to enforce property rights. Do you think people would just magically refrain from stealing if there were no police around to stop them? That's a very naive assumption.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494192307 124559602,124584333,2017-05-07 21:26:18,">>124583725 Nigger, society is a social construct that's the fucking point. Property exists individually, it's just that people decided to use collective force to protect themselves and their property. It's an extension and not a pre-requisite.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494192378 124559602,124584473,2017-05-07 21:27:30,">>124584201 >That's just your opinion That's some good argumentation right there >You need a government to enforce property rights It is a separate argument as to who should enforce property rights (if at all) and how, but the enforcement of property rights and the existence of property rights are two different things. You haven't proven anything.",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,US,,1494192450 124559602,124584618,2017-05-07 21:28:45,"Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years, so in order to fill this void in my being I need to exert my problems internal problems onto other human beings by participating in slavery called ""government"". I actually care about people so much I think they should be required by gun point to help fund roads! So they can get to work of course... I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, and drugs. Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care of them anyway. I've never seen a pothole in my life. Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,aclEqmQcWEnFmg9gjgBH8Q==,US,,1494192525 124559602,124584732,2017-05-07 21:29:41,">>124584618 kek. Good copypasta",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494192581 124559602,124584758,2017-05-07 21:29:53,,,Anonymous,1493839398072.jpg,tAR/FFscxRVKvbGpvgFBzA==,US,,1494192593 124559602,124584763,2017-05-07 21:29:57,">>124584333 If you leave your house, then it is empty. If somebody else comes across that empty house and decides to live in it, do they become the new owner? Is it still ""your"" house when you finally return?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494192597 124559602,124584820,2017-05-07 21:30:25,">>124584201 Lol foolish commie. I could always use my own body to defend my property. I could even trade some of my property to other people on the terms that they would help defend my property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494192625 124559602,124584845,2017-05-07 21:30:39,">>124584732 :)",,Anonymous,1483331390689.jpg,UGAuKCXjQern7FIY6tdt2w==,US,,1494192639 124559602,124584858,2017-05-07 21:30:46,">>124584201 I don't understand how contracts and voluntary agreements don't solve this for you. >capitalist: I have some money and material to build a house. Would you like to be a worker to build that house? >worker: Yes. I want to be paid X amount. >capitalist: Okay. House gets build. The capitalist owns it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494192646 124559602,124584899,2017-05-07 21:31:12,,,Anonymous,1493218481414.jpg,3bfmBHWB8HuQpFdht5Pazg==,US,,1494192672 124559602,124585031,2017-05-07 21:32:15,"Should we add Airwolf theme for libertarian theme since it has a helicopter in it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dwmf-wx8VQ",,Anonymous,1493467306671.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1494192735 124559602,124585142,2017-05-07 21:33:09,">>124584820 >I could always use my own body to defend my property. If that were true, then you'd be able to stop the government from taking it from you. The simply fact that you can't stop the government from doing this is proof that the government has authority over property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494192789 124559602,124585566,2017-05-07 21:36:18,">>124585142 >The simply fact that you can't stop the government from doing this is proof that the government has authority over property rights. What a terrible conclusions to reach. Property rights assert that government-enforced coercion (or coercion of any kind) against one's own property is illegitimate. If such coercion is illegitimate then government has no legitimate authority over property rights",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494192978 124559602,124585685,2017-05-07 21:37:25,">>124584763 Ownership is an observable phenominon based on argumentation. If you claim to own something and no one disagrees then, no problem, if people disagree with no actions then, no problem, if people disagree with force then arguments/opinion/ethics go out the window as they do in all areas of coversation. It's only when argumentation takes place that the concept of ownership comes into its own. Ownership is a concept we subjectively argue using objective link to the thing being claimed ie ""I bought this, this is mine, here is the receipt to serve as my objective link to the thing"". What this means is ownership is decided by who can argue the most objective link to what is being claimed and as with all argumentation the subjective interpretation and decision/result is based on the people involved themselves and the circumstance/scenario they find themselves in, not some mystical deity from up high arbitrating disputes. If buck tooth abo can't argue that they own a car that someone ""stole"" then they aren't going to get it back, but if Billy Bob Joe Harris rocks up to a 3rd party court with a deed of purchase and the other person has nothing chances are the people in that situation are going to subjectively side with Billy Bob. Make sense? It's a concept that is argued when there is disagreement and the outcome depends on the people themselves. Now please deposit 0.75BTC for my educational services.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494193045 124559602,124585821,2017-05-07 21:38:32,">>124585142 >if someone can use overwhelming force, they also have authority over you If someone actually falls for that shitty equivocation game they deserve to pay taxes. The robber who takes your shit at gun point does not have ""authority"" but force, and force is not authority. The framework of private property is normative, not descriptive, and the Hoppean argument for private property is that no consistent ethic, that is, no consistent normative framework, can exist if it does not acknowledge private property. But having said that a person is always free to break an ethical rule, or go outside the boundaries set by an ethical framework, no matter the ethical framework.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494193112 124559602,124585976,2017-05-07 21:39:44,">>124585566 Except we know from real-world experience that the government can regulate private property rights as desired.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494193184 124559602,124586091,2017-05-07 21:40:47,">>124585821 >if someone can use overwhelming force, they also have authority over you Yes, that is how it works. Human history makes this very obvious.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494193247 124559602,124586165,2017-05-07 21:41:18,"If the government doesn't pay for my health care, then who will help kill myself? Since I have no knowledge that the pharmaceutical and allopathic practices were designed and guided since the 1930s by big banks and think tanks to specifically destroy health, how can I possibly do anything but sit here and whine that no one wants to help me kill myself? Who cares if you can heal cancer with juice fasting and rebounding? HAHAHAHA. IDIOT. *eats more texas roadhouse and mcdonalds* I have absolutely no knowledge that true health care is self care, and that to prevent and reverse disease I need to fix my diet, lifestyle, and lymph system. Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,1493869662899.jpg,xL/isrNRDKcITxWItc7U3Q==,US,,1494193278 124559602,124586250,2017-05-07 21:41:57,">>124585976 I am not denying that -- I am only asserting that such regulation (coercion) is illegitimate (i.e. unethical, given the right to self-ownership)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494193317 124559602,124586504,2017-05-07 21:43:43,">>124586250 >such regulation (coercion) is illegitimate Not if it benefits society. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494193423 124559602,124586554,2017-05-07 21:44:04,">>124585976 >something is illegitimate >""haha yes but it happens anyway"" You don't know how to argue ethic. Your argument is that people use force against others? There's not a single person in this thread that disputes that. Your argument is that BECAUSE people use force in the world, that somehow this means that the use of force by these same people gives them legitimacy? Well either that's a non sequitur OR you've just argued that all cases of uses of force are legitimate. Therefore, all cases of rape, against children or otherwise are legitimate. All murders, under your view, all legitimate. All massacre are legitimates, all robbery, acts of arson, etc. are legitimate under the view you're seemingly defending. Good luck arguing that shit.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494193444 124559602,124586570,2017-05-07 21:44:09,">>124586091 >What is synchronicity? >What is behavioral consequence? >What are timeline dynamics? >What is natural law? You're obviously in these threads for a reason, at least comprehend the basic concepts before you act like you can sit here and defy objective reality. If I'm stronger than you and can hold you down and hold your ass cheeks open, does that mean your ass belongs to me? No, it is objectively not my body.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494193449 124559602,124586642,2017-05-07 21:44:35,">>124559602 The equal right of all men to the use of land is as clear as their equal right to breathe the air — it is a right proclaimed by the fact of their existence. For we cannot suppose that some men have a right to be in this world, and others no right.-Henry George Any royal libertarians out their care to refute?",,Anonymous,Henry-George-Progress-and-Poverty-191x300.jpg,h0UPHF2qj5EJhKvgXVvK6A==,US,,1494193475 124559602,124586690,2017-05-07 21:44:57,">>124586165 > I have absolutely no knowledge that true health care is self care, and that to prevent and reverse disease I need to fix my diet, lifestyle, and lymph system. It's funny, in Australia Life Insurance companies are worried about being dragged into muh pre-existing conditions debate in a few years, so they've been giving people free fitbits and giving them discounts/vouchers for hitting health targets, serves a double of keeping claims low/profits high and attempts to get society a little more active before the obesity rates collapse the healthcare system. That's just one industry though and the public system is fucked but I thought it was a prudent move by companies, people are too fucking lazy to do it themselves.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494193497 124559602,124586758,2017-05-07 21:45:26,">>124586504 Under what pretext are other people entitled to my property? And what are the needs of the many but an amalgamation of individual needs?",,Anonymous,Ancapugal.jpg,Tv0kuxhoAux++N1hDW85tw==,US,,1494193526 124559602,124586813,2017-05-07 21:45:50,">>124586554 >Your argument is that people use force against others? This is obviously true. It always has been. So why worry about it? Why not take advantage of it to improve the world?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494193550 124559602,124586907,2017-05-07 21:46:33,">>124585821 >The robber who takes your shit at gun point does not have ""authority"" but force No you idiot authority is force, you pay taxes because if you don't a police man comes and arrests you Authority definition the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience. Force definition strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement. >>124586091 """"""""""Natural rights""""""""""",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494193593 124559602,124587086,2017-05-07 21:47:53,">>124585142 So this other day I'm on a train and this guy says if you can violate another person's private property by stealing it, it then becomes yours. So I took his wallet, he tried to punch me, but I dodged it and KO'd him. Since the cameras saw me the private security is going to find me and ask for the wallet back, but its mine now! So they can't have it! But there was 2 of them so they beat my ass and took it back! So its rightfully theirs now. So the guy never got his wallet back, because he can't fight those 2 private security guards.",,Anonymous,bootlicker detected.jpg,a2AnJRFJ6aNkVOZi93Wk9g==,US,,1494193673 124559602,124587114,2017-05-07 21:48:15,>>124559602,,gore now,01.jpg,iOr9Fn6rMRTQMRtWRzf+nQ==,MX,,1494193695 124559602,124587118,2017-05-07 21:48:17,">>124585142 And by that logic the fact that you cannot single handedly abolish private property proves that property exists. Obviously this statement is fallacious, but property is not. Now onto theft, if I have created property through my actions and another man comes along and takes it without my consent. He has robbed me of my labor and time but the property in question is still a result of my actions and belongs to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494193697 124559602,124587167,2017-05-07 21:48:38,">>124586813 It's cool that you're ""arguing"" in 20 words chunk. Really compelling. >>124586907 >authority = force Then I'll just bash your fucking brain in and if anybody inquire I'll just reply that, at that moment, I had the legitimate authority to do so, as I had the force of a baseball bat on my side.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494193718 124559602,124587194,2017-05-07 21:48:50,">>124586907 I think he's using authority in the form of legitimized rationalized authority vs basic force which doesn't have the air of agreement behind it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494193730 124559602,124587273,2017-05-07 21:49:29,">>124586813 >This is obviously true. It always has been. No one's denying this. We're simply denying its ethical legitimacy >So why worry about it? Because I'm not a cuck like you. What the fuck kind of argument is this? So if I catch a preventable disease I shouldn't worry about it because it happens? >Why not take advantage of it to improve the world? none of here have the power to ""change the world"". Get lost with your Stirnerist garbage",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494193769 124559602,124587342,2017-05-07 21:50:01,">>124587118 >And by that logic the fact that you cannot single handedly abolish private property proves that property exists. Very true. Property rights definitely exist. However, they are not absolute, and government regulation reflects this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494193801 124559602,124587691,2017-05-07 21:52:50,">>124587342 As I said that statement is fallacious. If I am capable of locking you in a cage I do not own you, I cannot in any objective sense be responsible for your actions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494193970 124559602,124587731,2017-05-07 21:53:11,">>124587273 Taking a chunk of land, arbitrarily declaring it as ""yours"" and denying access to others is no less coercive behavior than taxation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494193991 124559602,124587772,2017-05-07 21:53:30,"If the government doesn't regulate the nail manufacturing industry, how do I know the nails I need to build my house aren't made out of silly putty. If the government doesn't regulate the toilet design process how do I know Andromedan aliens aren't putting spy devices into my toilet to record my bowel movements? I mean AnCapism is completely unsafe.",,Anonymous,1483334522803.jpg,+lxcwyj9LwIzKJA/azYm+Q==,US,,1494194010 124559602,124587928,2017-05-07 21:54:44,>>124559602,,gore now,janedoe3.jpg,aDhRUnjGPGopil8NzPNUFA==,MX,,1494194084 124559602,124588060,2017-05-07 21:55:47,"*blocks your path* Do you support me getting thrown into a metal cage because I wanted to eat a moon brownie and play mario kart with my bro?",,Anonymous,larkenrose.jpg,3QyfzJIBF6hrHDhYzOam8w==,US,,1494194147 124559602,124588101,2017-05-07 21:56:06,">>124587086 This is the worst strawman of an argument ever and you autistic natural right retards sprout it all the time. .You take the guys wallet the police show up .The police beat you and hand the wallet back The state though ""might"" and authority of the voting people choose how a country should run and enforce it though police. If you want ancap land right now you would have to topple the US government and it's army to enforce it or wait x amount of years for ancap to get the majority of the population to support it therefore becoming stronger by having more votes",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494194166 124559602,124588527,2017-05-07 21:59:33,">>124588101 >he still doesn't understand the difference between a normative system and what happens in the world Genius.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494194373 124559602,124588531,2017-05-07 21:59:35,">>124588101 >If you want ancap land right now you would have to topple the US government and it's army to enforce it or wait x amount of years for ancap to get the majority of the population to support it therefore becoming stronger by having more votes You don't achieve Ancapistan by ""overthrowing"" a government. You let the authority destroy itself and from the people must rise a voluntary and consenting mass re education in natural rights the creator bestowed and how the progress of humanity is based on physics that govern behavioral consequences and synchronicity. Until humanity learns this lesson it will suffer. You're right, if I wanted it tomorrow I would need to overthrow whoever in whatever land. But I don't want it tomorrow, I want it when people understand their rights. They are only harming themselves by continuing to participate in slavery.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494194375 124559602,124588551,2017-05-07 21:59:45,"So, in a libertarian society is Monarchism accepted? If so what kind?",,Anonymous,1491526523386.png,N1a+QThhl0g8UaoaMc+JEw==,US,,1494194385 124559602,124588679,2017-05-07 22:00:48,">>124587691 Just look at human history. In the end, all great debates are settled through judicious use of force, rather than pure reason.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494194448 124559602,124588751,2017-05-07 22:01:23,">>124587772 >If the government doesn't regulate the nail manufacturing industry, how do I know the nails I need to build my house aren't made out of silly putty. Think about it: The business that sells silly putty nails would not last very long if their product does not work as advertized. People will find out one way or another, tell others, boycott the business, and in general the business would not net in enough revenue to sustain itself or be as competitive as other tougher, stronger nails. Thus, it self-eliminates. Also, what fool of investors would even approve of silly putty nails in the first place.",,Anonymous,1493405597938.jpg,L/YzSozFCCGI9+Xx5pgNNw==,US,,1494194483 124559602,124588808,2017-05-07 22:01:55,">>124588679 >everything that happens is legitimate Amazing. You can get out now.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494194515 124559602,124588833,2017-05-07 22:02:06,">>124588101 > If you want ancap land right now you would have to topple the US government and it's army to enforce it or wait x amount of years for ancap to get the majority of the population to support it therefore becoming stronger by having more votes. That's a bit of a false dichotomy mate, theyre's many ways to bring about Ancap that don't include violent revolution or voting. They all intermingle though and half a dozen all progressing at the same time would be a nice outcome for my lifetime. Careful not to be naive & tunnel visioned in your views.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494194526 124559602,124588870,2017-05-07 22:02:28,">Libertarian Your ideology is stupid, prove me wrong.",,Quebec,political spectrum 4chan.jpg,abXBJ61KmAQwFMWIf4SUgQ==,CA,,1494194548 124559602,124588982,2017-05-07 22:03:14,">>124588551 Absolutely. If everyone there is voluntarily and doesn't force neighboring communities to involuntarily take part in any expansions of living space. >>124588751 B-BUT M-MUH SILLY PUTTY NAILZ N SHIEET I'm just messin bro but good point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494194594 124559602,124589034,2017-05-07 22:03:36,">>124588679 >Force is superior to reason in the end I don't understand why you even bothered coming here if that's how you feel",,Anonymous,Paine.jpg,T+fA6NZxgBDe3zmxlasnow==,US,,1494194616 124559602,124589282,2017-05-07 22:05:36,">>124588870 you're a leftist, you've already proven yourself to be an idiot. there's no point to reason with you. >>124589034 wonderful quote.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494194736 124559602,124589296,2017-05-07 22:05:41,">>124588808 Real-world events > Ideology, every day of the week. If your ideology cannot survive the crucible of human conflict then it doesn't deserve to exist.",,Anonymous,640_brodie-trenches.jpg,fSdTezHK031Xd6fiIflrSg==,US,,1494194741 124559602,124589330,2017-05-07 22:05:58,">>124588870 >prove my assertion wrong It must be hard being this retarded",,Anonymous,1493424989852.gif,cLtItKFqrzBgEsjM1lIngQ==,US,,1494194758 124559602,124589422,2017-05-07 22:06:42,">>124589034 >Force is superior to reason in the end You can't argue against a bullet",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1494194802 124559602,124589516,2017-05-07 22:07:29,">>124588531 I'm still correct, that peaceful re education of people and the state destroying itself is still use of force. The force of the reeducated population and the destruction of the state and it's armies means the ancaps are now stronger so they put in the own system of ancap ""govement"". If you were still a statist in that system and want to reutn to the old ways you need a army. Of which he does not so therefore the Ancaps now have the force and authroty to implement no goverment and the statist has none meaning the ancaps were stronger force doesn't necessarily mean violence or guns,",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494194849 124559602,124589659,2017-05-07 22:08:39,">>124589282 And you're a lolbarbarian, like that's any better Explain to me why being halfway between communism and socialism is bad, also why is being halfway between authoritarian and libertarian is bad, and finally, explain why my political stance isn't ideal?",,Quebec,,,CA,,1494194919 124559602,124589711,2017-05-07 22:09:04,">>124588870 > being left wing economically lol, you'll learn soon enough leaf. How're you enjoying your stagnating economy? Seems like you're only just starting to join us in feeling the tightening effects, overdue.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494194944 124559602,124589737,2017-05-07 22:09:19,">>124589422 No, but it legitimizes my right to retaliate and stop your attack.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1494194959 124559602,124589739,2017-05-07 22:09:21,">>124559602 Hey, can you guys help me out, I'm a fascist but I want to incorporate lolbert ideas into my worldview because it makes it easier to fight commies. Question: From whence to private property rights derive? How do we know that men have a natural ownership of themselves, and that they have the right to claim property and land in the first place? Leftists often claim that everything belongs to everyone, and thus that private property is theft, but they can't actually substantiate that claim rationally, there is no philosophy behind it they just say it's true. I expect this because leftists are stupid, but just because they're wrong doesn't necessarily mean you guys are right. So lay it on me, hit me with the good stuff. If there's anything I need to read first I'll do it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494194961 124559602,124589838,2017-05-07 22:10:06,">>124589296 >ideologies are what fight in physical confrontation >not people with ideologies Amazing. Whoever has the better airforce has the superior system of ideas. Why didn't anyone think of this before? Your problem is that you don't know what an argument is.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494195006 124559602,124589948,2017-05-07 22:10:59,">>124589739 Working on a better a proof atm. Private ownership of property comes from the right to self-ownership, basically",,Anonymous,private property.png,V/OxDWuYwRf4B8htGzCBKQ==,CA,,1494195059 124559602,124590051,2017-05-07 22:11:47,">>124589737 Then it boils just down to who can exercise the most violence.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1494195107 124559602,124590056,2017-05-07 22:11:52,">>124589711 Capitalism doesn't work, communism doesn't work, socialism doesn't work. What's left?",,Quebec,,,CA,,1494195112 124559602,124590069,2017-05-07 22:12:02,">>124588833 I was trying to explain Ancap can't exist because others with more power say it shouldn't. If ancap wants to exist it must be stronger then those who want it to die, therefore the ancaps must grow stronger then them to do so. Now to grow stronger doesn't mean more guns it may just mean having enough people to reform the government with no guns involved, since voting is power in the way we rule things",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494195122 124559602,124590234,2017-05-07 22:13:33,"WOMEN ARE THE OPPRESSORS! EVERY YEAR WORLDWIDE WOMEN KILL 50-60 MILLION OF THEIR OWN BABIES BY WAY OF ABORTION, WOMEN ARE EXTERMINATING THE FUTURE OF MANKIND(BOTH FEMALE AND MALE FETUSES OF ALL RACES)! FEMINISM IS MENTAL ILLNESS, IT'S DESTROYING ALL PEOPLE!",,BRICK VON MANTHRUST,,,US,,1494195213 124559602,124590278,2017-05-07 22:13:57,">>124589739 >From whence to private property rights derive? Self ownership is self evident, you are responsible for your actions. if you kill a man you are responsible for his death. people will come after YOU because of YOUR actions. >property is theft, This is a contradictory statement. Theft means to take property. You cannot steal that which is not property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494195237 124559602,124590298,2017-05-07 22:14:07,Would selling crack to a child violate the NAP?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494195247 124559602,124590312,2017-05-07 22:14:14,">>124589948 And the right of self-ownership is, I assume, self-evident? As in, at the bare minimum you own your own mind, because you and you alone may operate it without interference, sort of an extension of cognito ergo sum?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494195254 124559602,124590466,2017-05-07 22:15:37,">>124589034 Two men are arguing. One of these men has a gun. The other is unarmed. Who is more powerful? Who has the power to dictate terms? >>124589838 My point is that being ""right"" is irrelevant if you can't back it up with force. History is written by the victors. The side that wins the fight gets to determine the course of human history. If even historians go back and determine that the losing side was ""right"" all along, it won't even matter because force is ultimately what matters. This, BTW, is why girls are attracted to ""jerks"" as opposed to ""nice guys"" because they instinctively know that the ""jerks"" are more powerful.",,Anonymous,ww1.jpg,Vu9qSUhImpMGSzDOm6Kzkg==,US,,1494195337 124559602,124590492,2017-05-07 22:15:45,">>124590056 Anarcho primitivism.",,Anonymous,photo19.jpg,nBB7RUfnyqqmCkeDtThuHQ==,AT,,1494195345 124559602,124590576,2017-05-07 22:16:29,">>124590312 >And the right of self-ownership is, I assume, self-evident? Yes",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494195389 124559602,124590577,2017-05-07 22:16:29,">>124590492 hurrr durrrr you'll be shot in a hour under anarchy dude",,Quebec,,,CA,,1494195389 124559602,124590581,2017-05-07 22:16:32,"At what age can a child consent since consent is different all over the United states and Australia. is it when puberty begins,12,14,16,18,21??? Who are you in Ancap land to say it's 18 to a city which believes it's 12",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494195392 124559602,124590674,2017-05-07 22:17:16,">>124590056 Freedom. Corproatism doesn't work* >>124590069 Yeah I see what you're saying. Just have to recognize this can take many forms, for example parts of the government fading into irrelevance & population non-compliance is one vision, rather than yeah more guns or a big voting block. Current estimates/consensus is we want about 10% of the population to be ancap with a prevailing liberty trend culturally. I don't think violent revolution or voting are the most likely chances at all. Most likely are either taking advantage of a self-collapse, changing the future culture/generatitons to hit that 10% + sympathetic culture, or the market making certain government services irrelevant allowing people to gradually relax their compliance with the state as it fades into the background. But hey at least there's quite a few ways for it to happen, much more likely alternatives than the commonly looked out voting/revolution ideas.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494195436 124559602,124590776,2017-05-07 22:18:03,">>124590298 You are spreading degeneracy in my covenant by doing so, so you would suffer a physical removal. >>124590466 So what is the point of thinking or debating at all? What kind of anti-intellectual barbarian do you have to be to have an ideology of aggression and nothing else?",,Anonymous,NAP violation.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1494195483 124559602,124590925,2017-05-07 22:19:12,">>124589948 >>124590576 Thank you, this is more than enough for my purposes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494195552 124559602,124590947,2017-05-07 22:19:24,">>124577869 Probably in much the same way as we know a product on amazon is good. User reviews would allow us to sort for better doctors at lower prices and eliminate existing monopolies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494195564 124559602,124590986,2017-05-07 22:19:43,">>124590466 >force is ultimately what matters Then how did communism fail? How did that nuclear power get fucked without a war? Who used direct force against them? Also, please get out. We got it. Arguments don't matter because the guy with the gun doesn't have to listen. Understood.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494195583 124559602,124591078,2017-05-07 22:20:33,">>124588870 No u",,Anonymous,chart.png,Mzw+WYRF5OKKw1ZQTlXFMg==,US,,1494195633 124559602,124591239,2017-05-07 22:21:53,">>124578782 This. You do not earn the right to the fruits of the labor of any free man by virtue of your race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494195713 124559602,124591457,2017-05-07 22:23:38,">>124590986 They collapsed on themselves because their force was shit and capitalism was a stronger force. If Ancap Russia gets invaded by Nazi Germany and ancap losses that means the nazis win and destroy ancap End of Story",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494195818 124559602,124591743,2017-05-07 22:26:11,,,Anonymous,9vBxLrDjIs95dVZWij8c9hSNNPhpgvxj_SqQOxGaV8A.jpg,G33yeVE2/V7fVXI/LWRDNg==,US,,1494195971 124559602,124592007,2017-05-07 22:28:26,">>124591457 >They collapsed on themselves because their force was shit and capitalism was a stronger force. Nice little semantic distortion. They collapsed because their system of economic organization was garbage. The internal contradiction of a planned economy were such that they couldn't go on anymore, and eventually people completely lost faith in the system. This had nothing to do with physical force, and now you're just trying to redefine force to mean something it didn't mean earlier. But the things is that you guys aren't here to argue normative framework, you're here to argue that normative framework don't fucking exist or don't matter, because people can chose not to apply them. And since people can chose not to apply normative framework, and indeed since people aren't forced to follow argumentation, why have any argumentation at all? Why indeed? Why are you arguing? Shouldn't you be loading up on guns and ammunition to storm our houses? Force, gentlemen, will determine the winners of this debate. Not speech and discourse, but iron and blood.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494196106 124559602,124592567,2017-05-07 22:33:05,">>124591078 a capitalist liberal... my arch nemesis",,Quebec,,,CA,,1494196385 124559602,124592685,2017-05-07 22:34:14,"Behold, I present you my religion: Universalism, in association with my political stance, Equilibrism. So I will explain how it works. Perhaps the ideology that will save the west. My religion confirms, using logic, that there is no creator, God is the universe. We discourage you to believe anything written by man, for only God is worthy of our trust. Therefore, I am no prophet, just a man like you. God is the universe, the universe is God. Equilibrism is half way between socialism and communism, and half way between librarian and fascist. In my religion and political stance, we preach the stop of hatred, kill them with love instead. I know you're all thinking cuck, no, we also preach very strongly self-defense and preservation. We are able to discern our real enemies from the diversions, that's all.",,Quebec,,,CA,,1494196454 124559602,124592836,2017-05-07 22:35:29,">>124592685 >half way between librarian and fascist. They only burn half the books.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494196529 124559602,124592911,2017-05-07 22:36:02,Are we living amidst the great Portuguese Libertarian revolution?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494196562 124559602,124592927,2017-05-07 22:36:09,">>124592685 >halfway between librarian and fascist >librarian",,Anonymous,leon.jpg,QNYmAEm/rN68f1DFsO1tPA==,US,,1494196569 124559602,124593149,2017-05-07 22:37:49,">>124588982 Ok thanks for the tip.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494196669 124559602,124593381,2017-05-07 22:39:49,">>124592007 North Korea only exists because it can enforce it's rule, if it had no army it's people would rise up and South Korea and America would just reconquer it all. At the end of the day that's what counts. Might may not make right but it sure as hell makes it what you have to follow. Yes their shit communist system collapsed and the army and the people, (The force behind the system) lost their opinion of communism. Now why would I go to your house and kill you, I would have to shoot you, then all the Police then all the Army and for me to do that I need a army of which I don't have and if i did have you wouldn't exist anymore. So stop doing retarded stawmen. prove my north Korean point wrong",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494196789 124559602,124593674,2017-05-07 22:42:06,">>124574892 Strongly agree, nice coat of arms btw.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494196926 124559602,124593726,2017-05-07 22:42:33,">>124592836 nah we burn all the books, all.",,Quebec,,,CA,,1494196953 124559602,124593741,2017-05-07 22:42:39,">>124593381 >people can use force to apply any system they want no matter how much it blows I don't dispute that. Get out.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494196959 124559602,124594244,2017-05-07 22:47:25,">>124593741 There we go Might makes right, and Ancap right now is pathetically weak",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494197245 124559602,124594518,2017-05-07 22:50:03,"Don't engage the shills, they're not here for any productive discussion.",,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1494197403 124559602,124594678,2017-05-07 22:51:50,I fucking hate them because they make good music and there's no libertarian equivalent. Only leftists can't shut up about politics.,,Anonymous,Rage_Against_The_Machine_burns_the_American_flag_onstage_(1999).jpg,Y6CRsPDgtb4GhswwNejUxQ==,PL,,1494197510 124559602,124595100,2017-05-07 22:55:55,">>124594678 >good music You might like the lyrics and the overall vibe, but that music is straight 4/4 junk that most high schoolers could easily replicate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494197755 124559602,124595159,2017-05-07 22:56:32,">>124594678 their guitar riffs are awesome, the singer is an annoying fag. UH! YEAH! HOW YOU LIKE DAT! SUCKA! UH!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494197792 124559602,124595420,2017-05-07 22:59:15,">>124595100 The vibe is anti-authoritarian. They went so far left that they almost became libertarian but chose to believe in marxist fairy tales and lies about good revolutionaries. Such a shame. It wouldn't be hard to convert people like this. The thing about 90s- early 2000s metal is that it was simple but catchy. I'm no connoisseur. I like what I like. The intro of Killing in the Name is great.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494197955 124559602,124595876,2017-05-07 23:03:34,">>124591743 The maximum amount of speed and force my body can feasibly apply without causing injury to me or potentially damaging the mechanism which might have the unfortunate result of rendering the trolley incapable of removing leftists from the premises.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494198214 124559602,124597836,2017-05-07 23:22:16,">>124595159 And that.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494199336 124559602,124599314,2017-05-07 23:35:53,">>124582273 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJBzhcSWTk ...that's why.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494200153 124559602,124599750,2017-05-07 23:39:59,">>124580832 helicopters are not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494200399 124559602,124600124,2017-05-07 23:43:20,">>124586642 Once land is developed, this ""equal claim"" of yours becomes a bit dubious. Are you allowed to take my stuff, simply because it's anchored to the land to which you claim equal party?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494200600 124559602,124600425,2017-05-07 23:46:02,">>124563410 The LP isn't Libertarian. Just like how the Democratic party isn't really democratic, and the Republican party is destroying the Republic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494200762 124559602,124600804,2017-05-07 23:49:35,">>124594678 That's why I have a rule of never looking into a musician's political beliefs. Too many bands ruined by ""muh black lives matter retweet"". If the lyrics are ambiguous, I just interpret them as I see fit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494200975 124559602,124601291,2017-05-07 23:54:13,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494201253 124559602,124602922,2017-05-08 00:10:30,"Anyone read any good L. Fiction like The Moon is a Harsh Mistress? I've always wanted to give that a go, people seem to enjoy Heinlein.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494202230 124559602,124603568,2017-05-08 00:17:37,Fuck Libertarians and fuck AnCaps.,,Anonymous,1492309277353.gif,7aRI1Sc31McEem2BYzUx4Q==,US,,1494202657 124559602,124604577,2017-05-08 00:28:54,">>124559602 >libertarian >right pick one lolbergs, fucking jewish puppets",,Anonymous,controlled_opposition.jpg,Atxnk7g744CwcWdTKQxTig==,US,,1494203334 124559602,124605017,2017-05-08 00:33:08,">Tfw classical liberal Please refrain from placing your feet atop me thank you",,Anonymous,goodnight.jpg,ovtibaqH9JKENKt0L63Ujg==,US,,1494203588 124559602,124605305,2017-05-08 00:35:50,>federal government,,Anonymous,smh nigga.jpg,PKqLYdq+1vi2kltNHfuwJw==,AU,,1494203750 124559602,124605523,2017-05-08 00:37:40,">>124604577 wtf i hate ayn rand now!!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494203860 124559602,124605771,2017-05-08 00:39:53,">>124603568 >>124604577 oh fuck capitalism is finished",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494203993 124559602,124606092,2017-05-08 00:43:10,">>124604577 > Bastiat: Catholic > Hayek: Christian/Agnostic Step up son.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494204190 124559602,124606114,2017-05-08 00:43:25,">>124586165 >If the government doesn't pay for my health care, then who will help kill myself? I heard that overdosing on barbiturates is a painless way to die. And since buying the drug wouldn't require a prescription in an AnCap society, you can freely commit suicide in such a way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494204205 124559602,124606191,2017-05-08 00:44:15,">>124584763 No, they are squatting on my property. I'll call the cops, and if there were no cops, I would call the McCops, round up a posse, storm the place with muh guns, whatever. State or no, it's still my stuff.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494204255 124632493,124632493,2017-05-08 06:22:32,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,^~,1491991840920.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,PT,,1494224552 124632493,124632583,2017-05-08 06:23:59,Le ebin libertarian meme,,Anonymous,1493675903744.png,GyyV6tpfb4BDX8dkApwvfw==,SE,,1494224639 124632493,124632661,2017-05-08 06:24:58,">>124632583 >not having good times 24/7",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494224698 124632493,124632711,2017-05-08 06:25:35,"literally the only redeeming feature of /pol/ have a bump lads",,Anonymous,1494061617823.jpg,vO3tpgtmuvNrCBPY+AX16Q==,NZ,,1494224735 124632493,124632875,2017-05-08 06:27:54,">>124632583 thanks, I've been looking for this for months",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494224874 124632493,124633097,2017-05-08 06:30:59,Test connection error,,^~,,,PT,,1494225059 124632493,124633221,2017-05-08 06:32:45,"seems like when i try to post links i get a connection error... anyone with this problem? yes my adblocker is off",,^~,1488741495819.jpg,hvbSJ4sQ+EYBlA3VhuCi/g==,PT,,1494225165 124632493,124633530,2017-05-08 06:37:09,>tfw no free market monarchy,,Anonymous,Liechtenstein-cast_2263786b.jpg,XmDgJjebEXdorRGYbdPXSA==,PT,,1494225429 124632493,124633691,2017-05-08 06:39:29,About freaking time lads!! Give me liberty or give me death!!!,,Anonymous,1494195337177.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,CA,,1494225569 124632493,124633835,2017-05-08 06:41:23,">>124633530 >tfw no libertarian prince whos friends with hoppe and a relative of the portuguese monarchic family feels so bad my mano btw post the reading list and the videolist, i can't seem to post it, i get connection errors",,^~,hoppewave.jpg,ia2+0pGzR738bf2zAn3onQ==,PT,,1494225683 124632493,124633857,2017-05-08 06:41:47,"Can all you faggots go back to r_thedonald? This is, has and always will be a NatSoc board. Also your system is an arm of the Jews.",,Anonymous,0172c832d42089fedbc06509f4f07c93.jpg,Fiy2Ksgn5AkifA6sSWiv+w==,AU,,1494225707 124632493,124633932,2017-05-08 06:42:56,">>124633857 >roleplaying redditor Fuck off newfag",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494225776 124632493,124633950,2017-05-08 06:43:11,">>124633857 Kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494225791 124632493,124633961,2017-05-08 06:43:21,">>124633857 This is a Ron Paul board you autist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494225801 124632493,124633988,2017-05-08 06:43:39,">>124633857 shut the fuck up you fucking newfag, after /news became /pol it started as a majority libertarian board until yall edgyfags came fuck right off",,^~,,,PT,,1494225819 124632493,124634022,2017-05-08 06:44:05,">>124633857 shooo stormie!",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494225845 124632493,124634125,2017-05-08 06:45:33,">>124633857 step into the McGas ya fookin cunt",,^~,1490352715770.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,PT,,1494225933 124632493,124634202,2017-05-08 06:46:31,">>124633857 >right libertarians >not Nazis without state and updated views on race, nationality and migration the transition is easy, just give it a try",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494225991 124632493,124634235,2017-05-08 06:46:50,">>124633961 >Ron Paul He's a faggot old man who never achieved anything.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494226010 124632493,124634289,2017-05-08 06:47:32,">>124633932 >>124633950 >>124633961 >>124633988 >>124634022 >>124634125 >>124634202 You cunts literally all are reddit, you and your shitty Jew system never existed here until around 2014. Also your all shitskins with MUH CIVIC NATIONALIST t. 2009 fag",,Anonymous,2e90eeb8b83dec7a962affa358ed94e6.jpg,dEt7BKZscC1g5aglOGN8iA==,AU,,1494226052 124632493,124634350,2017-05-08 06:48:11,">>124634289 Kill yourself newfag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494226091 124632493,124634405,2017-05-08 06:48:51,">>124634235 Whereas NatSocs destroyed Europe and every socialist state is in utter ruins. Self awareness in abundance as ever.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494226131 124632493,124634477,2017-05-08 06:49:55,">>124634289 >you and your shitty Jew system never existed here until around 2014 >t. 2009 fag why you lying new-newfag? >>124634202 Most, if not all, of /lrg/ are race realists and oppose free migration. Check Hoppe's PFS lectures.",,^~,14889778_1145424868867613_7738734691231952477_o.jpg,pA3Zkz+4r8/JbMt7gTZwtQ==,PT,,1494226195 124632493,124634507,2017-05-08 06:50:23,">>124634350 >>124634477 Why does nupol deny so hard that /pol/ was always a NatSoc board then call everybody who disagrees with them nufags. Anybody who's been here long enough knows it.",,Anonymous,1489670670021.jpg,1lHJR3MCMZ0PlJo/Q8y3ww==,AU,,1494226223 124632493,124634532,2017-05-08 06:50:45,"I don't think of myself as an ancap/libertarian, but my lifestyle is really consistent with that worldview I guess: I have 99% of my wealth in crypto-currencies I pay zero taxes on my work (I get paid in BTC)",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494226245 124632493,124634612,2017-05-08 06:51:47,">>124633857 Piss off newfag, We've been here since the ""Ron Paul 2012"" days. We make up a large section of this board",,Anonymous,1492622921510.jpg,h2DdOQzjYV5zM3bsmqVecg==,CA,,1494226307 124632493,124634698,2017-05-08 06:52:55,">>124634507 moot was right, staya was a mistake >>124634532 that's really risky, cryptocurrencies are very volatile... you shouldn't hold 10% of your wealth in c.c. let alone 99% mate...",,^~,1488586820209.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1494226375 124632493,124634789,2017-05-08 06:54:20,"Really, Ancap souns as retarded as communism, maybe even more so, since at least communism can exist (for a brief period of time before it collapses). But libertarians are just anti-reality. >>124634405 >NatSocs destroyed Europe Destroyed Europe by launching a preemptive strike against the communist menace and their allies.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494226460 124632493,124634830,2017-05-08 06:54:58,">>124634612 You barely existed before 2014, stop repeating shit you heard from some other lolbertarian. In 2016 you faggots hoarded in due to MUH GOD EMPEROR, all the NatSocs told you he was a Jew agent ""ISRAEL IS BASED AGAINST ISLAM THO"". We will you fucks leave. >>124634698 t. 85 percent",,Anonymous,279BE41000000578-3040579-image-a-30_1429130715608.jpg,mHX71h5DAN311FtQ144JCg==,AU,,1494226498 124632493,124634848,2017-05-08 06:55:11,">>124634698 >those matriochkas upper left HE WAS A COMMIE AGENT SINCE THE BEGINNING",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494226511 124632493,124634880,2017-05-08 06:55:32,"When a stormfag calls a libertarian poster a newfag, it exposes just how new they really are We've been on here since day one",,Anonymous,Stormfag.jpg,svgdu92UXlDJb+ORpHZjHg==,CA,,1494226532 124632493,124634909,2017-05-08 06:55:53,">>124634789 You mean the communism that Republican America and free market success eventually finished off?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494226553 124632493,124634927,2017-05-08 06:56:05,">>124634789 > But libertarians are just anti-reality. Is this what passes as an argument in your stormneets circle-jerks?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494226565 124632493,124634975,2017-05-08 06:56:42,">>124634880 >day one KEKEKKEKEKEKEKKEKEKEKEK You faggots will literally say anything, do you even know what new is?",,Anonymous,b5b8dd3261f9fb4e4fe6dc5f0ad307ea.jpg,9pGXZveeLmdN56r8uf5eQA==,AU,,1494226602 124632493,124634996,2017-05-08 06:56:56,">>124632493 Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years, so in order to fill this void in my being I need to exert my internal problems onto other human beings by participating in slavery called ""government"". I actually care about people so much I think they should be required by gun point to help fund roads! So they can get to work of course... I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, and drugs. Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care of them anyway. I've never seen a pothole in my life. Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,aclEqmQcWEnFmg9gjgBH8Q==,US,,1494226616 124632493,124635032,2017-05-08 06:57:21,">>124634830 NatSocs are more Trump friendly than Libertarians you nigger faggot",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494226641 124632493,124635058,2017-05-08 06:57:35,">>124634830 >You barely existed before 2014 what's the 2012 american election,we were all Ron Paul supporters here >flag oh,I get it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494226655 124632493,124635137,2017-05-08 06:58:33,"ignore australian shitposters, lads",,^~,,,PT,,1494226713 124632493,124635183,2017-05-08 06:59:08,,,Anonymous,1493839398072.jpg,tAR/FFscxRVKvbGpvgFBzA==,US,,1494226748 124632493,124635206,2017-05-08 06:59:25,,,Anonymous,1493899121101.jpg,OZFWkqtBzu2EcOgXEPfaKw==,US,,1494226765 124632493,124635216,2017-05-08 06:59:32,">>124635032 >implying a NatSoc would ever trust somebody that supported Jews. What is r_thedonald made up of again? >>124635058 le one right wing caditate /pol/ supports WE WUZ ALWAYZ LIBTARDS",,Anonymous,colour_hitley_by_cealdi-d4a1qx4.jpg,Ygfa9tc7PuHpMb7O1AZYqw==,AU,,1494226772 124632493,124635247,2017-05-08 06:59:50,,,Anonymous,1493833116797.png,b9XDUnd9jPI0LHTZ339voA==,US,,1494226790 124632493,124635264,2017-05-08 07:00:05,">>124634909 >Republican America and free market success Oh yeah, such success that the western world and the white race are about to becom extinct, not even communism could have acomplished that. >>124634927 Was your system ever implemented? Of course not, because it's against human nature, people will immediatley form a government, it's either that or gangs terrorizing people like in some failed states.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494226805 124632493,124635283,2017-05-08 07:00:11,">>124635137 >counter opinion IGNORED",,Anonymous,1491056467394.jpg,IYch1pHrFv30wyJzRlXZVQ==,AU,,1494226811 124632493,124635316,2017-05-08 07:00:36,,,Anonymous,1493832937084.jpg,Td/HtUo97OwKDaKsRryzzQ==,US,,1494226836 124632493,124635346,2017-05-08 07:01:00,,,Anonymous,1493839493056.jpg,mT/u8qn8F9Maqej1uTBhuQ==,US,,1494226860 124632493,124635372,2017-05-08 07:01:17,,,Anonymous,1493839459643.jpg,07zvYI5ZFfeHD5wfzTGscw==,US,,1494226877 124632493,124635374,2017-05-08 07:01:18,">>124634975 M8 you 1488ers have had your day. Most here think ya'll are fucking retarded. Even if they hate jews. I mean you lot are literally socialists.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494226878 124632493,124635437,2017-05-08 07:02:08,,,Anonymous,1493461161276.png,JwzjRQVNCEC8rcgk/IJN/A==,US,,1494226928 124632493,124635570,2017-05-08 07:03:32,">>124634698 >that's really risky, cryptocurrencies are very volatile... you shouldn't hold 10% of your wealth in c.c. let alone 99% mate... We will see.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494227012 124632493,124635587,2017-05-08 07:03:45,,,Anonymous,1494209016813 (1).jpg,T+fA6NZxgBDe3zmxlasnow==,US,,1494227025 124632493,124635608,2017-05-08 07:04:00,">>124635216 the jews are the real master race tho",,Anonymous,jew iq.png,Qxa/2L16l/eE4E+MWBj55A==,FI,,1494227040 124632493,124635637,2017-05-08 07:04:18,">>124634975 hurr durr im not new yer new hurr hurrrr",,Anonymous,1494202618101.png,xRxV0uV1lZtG3/JTMrBkow==,CA,,1494227058 124632493,124635665,2017-05-08 07:04:37,">>124634289 Newfaggot detected",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494227077 124632493,124635691,2017-05-08 07:04:55,,,Anonymous,1488510988733.png,StvPvu1L1gwicGZ3pytqEA==,US,,1494227095 124632493,124635698,2017-05-08 07:05:01,">>124635216 >r_d >libertarian they supported the Syrian bombings for fuck sake",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494227101 124632493,124635753,2017-05-08 07:05:37,"remember than anarcho commies can be your friends are friends real enemies are nazis and stallinists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494227137 124632493,124635755,2017-05-08 07:05:37,,,Anonymous,1494098183046.jpg,69TumsHbkPlMj3Zf1+BcAw==,US,,1494227137 124632493,124635784,2017-05-08 07:06:02,">>124633857 >subhuman abo-fucker >natsoc",,Anonymous,AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA.jpg,ICTDjMFn8Psl3baGY0LYmQ==,US,,1494227162 124632493,124635791,2017-05-08 07:06:11,Capitalism makes us all rich... and sexy!!,,Anonymous,1494204025867.jpg,LAuN/K4j9tQ6miPnjgNaQQ==,CA,,1494227171 124632493,124635818,2017-05-08 07:06:27,,,Anonymous,1483333908944.jpg,zXBo4pVnRxtSwjzJROzAAA==,US,,1494227187 124632493,124635841,2017-05-08 07:06:51,">>124635264 >Was your system ever implemented? Of course not, because it's against human nature, people will immediatley form a government, it's either that or gangs terrorizing people like in some failed states. Yes, our system was implemented, the US was pretty libertarian during most of its history, anyway, until the XX century, most forms of what we consider today's major political movements had not been tried yet, this status quo argument is really weak. About forms of government, we don't oppose all forms of government, only coercive ones, I am the governor of my house, my landlord's contract is a ""constitution"", perhaps you should sit back and read, today you're in luck, seems like the best libertarian debaters in /pol are around.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494227211 124632493,124635892,2017-05-08 07:07:23,>>124632493,,Anonymous,14706672656549.jpg,6CjUZ4WItis6Sxc2fwS7Dg==,FR,,1494227243 124632493,124635915,2017-05-08 07:07:41,">>124635753 > than anarcho commies can be your friends are friends nice try,Diego,your workers union will never catch me",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494227261 124632493,124635940,2017-05-08 07:08:05,">>124635264 Human nature is not good or evil. It is programmable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1tP1vvZxoA",,Anonymous,1483334522803.jpg,+lxcwyj9LwIzKJA/azYm+Q==,US,,1494227285 124632493,124635946,2017-05-08 07:08:10,,,Anonymous,1494196294431.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,CA,,1494227290 124632493,124635949,2017-05-08 07:08:14,">>124632493 >libertarian >right ahahahahahah hows the babyselling going kike? The only freedom you preach is the freedom of the Jew to oppress the white man",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494227294 124632493,124636011,2017-05-08 07:09:02,">>124635915 bet you side with the nazis you statist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494227342 124632493,124636047,2017-05-08 07:09:25,">>124635374 >I mean you lot are literally socialists This is how retarded you libtards are Look up corporatism you faggot and tell me that is socialism Also you literally the laughing stock of pol >ancap >>124635608 >goyim as a collective including niggas Also the Jews actually only have a higher verbal IQ and lack any sort of creativity like most other races. The quality only the White man has. >>124635637 /new/ do you know what it is? >>124635665 >not a lolbertarian >nufag NatSoc is why pol exists >>124635698 And what do they identify as politically? >>124635784 >amerifat >69 percent",,Anonymous,1491056332672.png,38/nn1y2CUSinUBg3vugFg==,AU,,1494227365 124632493,124636052,2017-05-08 07:09:30,">>124635949 If you cared so much about Jewish oppression, why not start a community where Jews are not allowed to live? Or start a public campaign to raise awareness? It is because you really don't care, you just have nothing better to do than act inferior to get sympathy because momma never gave you enough love.",,Anonymous,1483331390689.jpg,UGAuKCXjQern7FIY6tdt2w==,US,,1494227370 124632493,124636106,2017-05-08 07:10:17,">>124633961 >Ron Paul",,Anonymous,Ron Paul Please Tread On Me.png,XNZYSB/kjFhlIqb5i8hPDQ==,GB,,1494227417 124632493,124636136,2017-05-08 07:10:38,">>124636047 >straya >land of british criminals and actual subhumans",,Anonymous,you tbqh.png,7SkM0i4vFWyM8kYu0zHDbA==,US,,1494227438 124632493,124636152,2017-05-08 07:10:50,">>124635949 Yeah, elect another politician, I'm sure this Nth time won't end up being a jewish puppet. And don't forget to pay your (((taxes))) in (((pounds))).",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494227450 124632493,124636155,2017-05-08 07:10:54,"If the government doesn't pay for my health care, then who will help kill myself? Since I have no knowledge that the pharmaceutical and allopathic practices were designed and guided since the 1930s by big banks and think tanks to specifically destroy health, how can I possibly do anything but sit here and whine that no one wants to help me kill myself? Who cares if you can heal cancer with juice fasting and rebounding? HAHAHAHA. IDIOT. *eats more texas roadhouse and mcdonalds* I have absolutely no knowledge that true health care is self care, and that to prevent and reverse disease I need to fix my diet, lifestyle, and lymph system. Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,1493919319678.png,80fUnaYJycJUxInHf+RuNg==,US,,1494227454 124632493,124636173,2017-05-08 07:11:11,">>124635698 > they are capable of questioning ""Tuh god emperor"" > they are capable of being racist > they aren't larpers with no values",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1494227471 124632493,124636181,2017-05-08 07:11:15,">>124636047 These NutSac posters keep shitting up our threads. Fear not gents - these boot-lickers will succumb to our bulletproof logic",,Anonymous,1494196704267.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,CA,,1494227475 124632493,124636191,2017-05-08 07:11:25,">>124636047 they are civcucks who deify a TV reality star",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494227485 124632493,124636214,2017-05-08 07:11:43,">>124632493 >Paleolibertarianism >Anarcho-Capitalism >Minarchism Hell's bells, talk about /b/-tier forced memes. FFS, LOL",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494227503 124632493,124636227,2017-05-08 07:11:52,"reminder that in a anarcho-capitalist world you could live in a community with whatever values you want as long as you do not aggress remider that most properties would be returned to the tax payers and not big corporations leechers after the istitution of an ancap order reminder that with the state-funding-degeneracy gone the culture would fix itself reminder that all of this can be argued in a pure abstract way so you do not have to hide your power level and you are immune to shut down discourse tactics, and thats why anarcho-capitalism is costantly under infiltration and shill attack, because it achieves /pol/ while being immune to the usual enemy tactics, that's why it's extremely dangerous for the current order of the current year.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1494227512 124632493,124636265,2017-05-08 07:12:28,"Reminder to all the naziboos in this thread, Ancaps support Nazism, Communism, and Voluntaryism. As long as a human being can enter and leave your community at any moment they are allowed to subject themselves to what their will desires.",,Anonymous,1493219993192.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,US,,1494227548 124632493,124636271,2017-05-08 07:12:34,">>124632583 thats interesting, thats where im at right now",,Anonymous,Political Spectrum FB.jpg,uf1gzvh53dgF2wiy2bPgUA==,CA,,1494227554 124632493,124636278,2017-05-08 07:12:37,">>124635841 >Yes, our system was implemented, the US was pretty libertarian during most of its history So then you'r what? just an american conservative? Anyway, your system was still a failure, since it made way for jewish infiltration of government, monopolies (many owned by jews) and corruption of morals. Libertarians seem to only care about the material aspect of civilization, I would like to know how you plan to better society's morals (ar at least maintain them) in a libertarian society.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494227557 124632493,124636304,2017-05-08 07:13:03,">>124635940 what have you been watching lad",,Anonymous,1490527985994.jpg,8LpldLeXKSdsLZAaWvSOKQ==,RS,,1494227583 124632493,124636349,2017-05-08 07:13:33,,,Anonymous,1494211419241.jpg,aA6grYG65sFpBihVSh44Ow==,US,,1494227613 124632493,124636379,2017-05-08 07:14:01,">>124634880 It doesn't matter who came when. The fact is libertarianism has always been associated with Globalism and Judaism. Just look at the Chicago boys being in charge of literal CIA plots against nationalists in south America like Allende. You ""libertarians"" are all just cuckservative neocons underneath, Molymeme being a great example, went from >muh freedom to alt light neocon BS just for some youtube hits. Pathetic really",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494227641 124632493,124636412,2017-05-08 07:14:24,">>124632583 >Strong men create good times >good times is freedom, low to nil taxes >for some reason we need to start increasing taxes for muh gibs and the poor black children ;_; No, actually. How about we just toss statists out of helicopters?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494227664 124632493,124636428,2017-05-08 07:14:38,">>124636136 >freedom land >land of grossly obese Jew lovers and niggers >>124636181 Looking forward to the day you realize what a fuckwit you are",,Anonymous,Hitler.jpg,MtA+Ry9vF56YaKYKPPXUAQ==,AU,,1494227678 124632493,124636451,2017-05-08 07:14:48,">>124636304 Watch more of Mark, he is very knowledgeable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494227688 124632493,124636467,2017-05-08 07:15:00,">>124636047 Nice straw man I'm no an cap. Your nazi bullshit is a lot less popular now. Notice how you ignore this, people here might hate ((them)). But they know Hitler was a crazy fuck and national socialism is a shitty ideology. Like your shit will never be popular it's got too much baggage and it isn't even an effective system. You retard shit and thats not what /pol/ wants. Back to storm front m80",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494227700 124632493,124636473,2017-05-08 07:15:06,">>124634289 You do realise /pol/ has only existed since 2011? So for one thing, you're lying about being here since 2009. Secondly, even if you're right about libertarians only being here since 2014 (which you aren't), they've been here as long as they haven't. t. 2013 fag",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494227706 124632493,124636484,2017-05-08 07:15:12,">>124636265 Communism is completely aggressive and will take over as much land as possible. I agree with what you're saying but you shouldn't expect communists to believe in any sort of free association.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494227712 124632493,124636565,2017-05-08 07:16:17,">>124633221 OY vey, they're shutting down the dissemination of freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494227777 124632493,124636585,2017-05-08 07:16:29,">>124636227 THIS. great post bruno",,^~,1491687812584.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1494227789 124632493,124636608,2017-05-08 07:16:45,">>124636484 I know, but the idea is they can be communist as long as they don't violate the rights of surrounding peoples outside their legal property lines. In that case, they get one of these: >pic related",,Anonymous,1492394243082.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1494227805 124632493,124636642,2017-05-08 07:17:14,">>124636428 You know actually your probably a shill trying to derail /pol/. I've seen way to many b8 posters saying the same shit as you.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494227834 124632493,124636658,2017-05-08 07:17:25,">>124633857 Get the fuck out, niggerjew. Divide and conquer won't work here. Libertarianism has always been a staple of /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494227845 124632493,124636677,2017-05-08 07:17:36,">>124635940 Oh is it? There we go, just like I was saying, libertarians are very simmilar to communists, you just need this perfect system that will bring about a virtually utopian society. if you think human nature is programmable, you might be interested in other crazy cults like The Venus Project (it's basically communism). They also belive that humans can be educated to eliminate crime and follow a single morality system and form an utopian society, just not base on free trade but central planning.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494227856 124632493,124636682,2017-05-08 07:17:45,">>124636379 >Just look at the Chicago boys being in charge of literal CIA plots against nationalists in south America like Allende. Allende was a commie,not nationalist",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494227865 124632493,124636690,2017-05-08 07:17:51,">>124636428 >""obese jew lovers"" >keeps posting pics of a man who secretly loved islam over christianity and wanted to enslave the world because he was butthurt after being rejected from some faggoty art school",,Anonymous,sandniggers and natsocs sitting in a tree.jpg,wfvuuB5Nm+RJjx63dOMVHw==,US,,1494227871 124632493,124636753,2017-05-08 07:18:28,">>124636052 >this many ad homs all in one post It doesn't change the fact that everywhere your ideology has arisen it has been in line and at the call of globalists and financier shils. Face it, you ARE the establishment. Freedom for the rich is freedom to exploit. Its fine mine you like being cucked by big business nothing to be ashamed of just admit and its all fine ""i like corporate dick in my ass all the time"" is all you have to say",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494227908 124632493,124636776,2017-05-08 07:18:47,">>124636271 no you faggot it doesnt work like that. its talking about how communism and socialism make tough times which make hard men through fascism, which makes good times through libertarianism, which makes weak men which makes hard times",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494227927 124632493,124636846,2017-05-08 07:19:48,"Hey ancaps, name an industrial society that managed to have capitalism without a state and remain that way. If you say Somalia it proves you are a faggot. All your examples are literal tribes from the time before machines. Face it, you're a bunch of internet retards who have never even had a real movement",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494227988 124632493,124636903,2017-05-08 07:20:33,">>124636846 lol yeah even commies have catalonia",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494228033 124632493,124636911,2017-05-08 07:20:35,">>124636278 Yes, libertarianism in the US failed because they didn't embrace anarcho-capitalism. They opened a little door to government intervention through the constitution. Still, lasted for centuries, unlike...every other system? Our system is way more refined and fool proof now, multiple ideologues have improved and strengthened the roots and methods of right-libertarianism, we understand that democracy must be purged, that private property has no room for democracy or globalist laws and therefore everything must be private property. >Libertarians seem to only care about the material aspect of civilization This is a strawman and a quite wrong one. We have values above the material, and we've found a way to sustain them, this way is called private property. Our plan is to stop sustaining and associating with morals we don't support. Thanks to dissociation, destructive individuals will need to either adapt or assume their decisions. Ever understood that a teacher holding the class back because some refused to learn was counterproductive? We understand that better than most.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494228035 124632493,124636968,2017-05-08 07:21:21,">>124636682 Allende was a socialist and nationalist. Better than a (((((CIA)))) puppet installed specifically for his stupidity. and then even Pinochet kicked out the Chicago boys when he realised their kikery. Libtards only have surface level knowledge. Learn a little history",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228081 124632493,124636974,2017-05-08 07:21:25,">>124636677 1. I can tell you didn't watch the video, because whilst human beings are programmable they are still bound by the objective moral behavioral laws and consequential synchronicities the creator has endowed us with. 2. I have no clue what the venus project is. >>124636753 I actually don't support monetary systems. I think they are a form of control, in my community I would advocate a meritocracy based on voluntary contributionism made by the authority I contracted my time to. At first you would need to print your own money then transition. Kinda like a mix of Brehon Law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnxJj6M30wU",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494228085 124632493,124636991,2017-05-08 07:21:42,">>124636467 >calls me NatSoc socialist >show its economics system and prove its not STRAWMAN Theres a reason no serious political commentator calls NatSoc socialist >>124636473 Being such a retarded nufag not knowing what /new/ is and that /pol/ is the successor of it and it was literally the SS. >>124636642 No it's just that your faggot system needs to be told how jewy it is. >>124636658 Easily observes and voices how shit your system is >DIVIDE AND CONQUER Your system is literally the sister of communism, both jew inventions. >>124636690 Did i hit a soft spot fatty? Also you sound like you should be on Unilad MUH HITLER WAS EVIL ROOSEVELT BASED",,Anonymous,1491056298934.png,bAmxgAr3O3TU9FSkvG3B9A==,AU,,1494228102 124632493,124637031,2017-05-08 07:22:25,">>124636753 Oh god ypu alt righters are such fucking commies when it comes to economics. Shit atleast some of those fucks believe in some sort or social freedom. Fucks like you want an end to all kinds of freedom, you don't even know why. Its all emotional bullshit mostly.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228145 124632493,124637072,2017-05-08 07:22:53,">>124636974 >capitalism >without money You should look into anarchist communism for a non retarded version of what you want",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228173 124632493,124637085,2017-05-08 07:23:07,">>124636428 If you love the government so much, why don't you marry it?",,Anonymous,1493810647451.png,xxQTxqtQeNq847liEeO2mg==,CA,,1494228187 124632493,124637167,2017-05-08 07:24:16,">>124637072 No, there would still be money. It would just be energetic and based on your contributions to the community as a human being, instead of gold, silver, or fiat paper money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494228256 124632493,124637190,2017-05-08 07:24:41,">>124636846 >Hey natSocs, name an industrial society that managed to have nazism without a state failing and remain that way.",,^~,,,PT,,1494228281 124632493,124637213,2017-05-08 07:25:08,">>124636991 Definitely confirmed shill. This new wave of 1488 crap seems to be mostly shills. Its a nice trick to discredit pol and the alt right. But i see through your shit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228308 124632493,124637226,2017-05-08 07:25:17,">>124637031 >the domination of (((((them))))) >emotional bullshit No, retard, you are so brainwashed you actually think rich people getting richer makes you rich. This is fundamentally wrong. They exist to take from you as much as they can and to do so with the power of the state. The only way to combat this ruling class is to get rid of them. Why haven't wages risen since the 70's? Even though we have invented automation and computers and women have entered the work place? Why do we do longer hours even though there are more of us and better machines and less work to do? I'll tell you why, because faggots like you actually think thats freedom",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228317 124632493,124637237,2017-05-08 07:25:26,">>124637085 What are you 5? That is something a child would say. Also you anarchistic bastard, you system can't work simply because of human nature. You think every person in the world will except your system. People will form militias and eventual establish there own state. Power is in human nature.",,Anonymous,1491056908548.jpg,LXIQ9gqe+YWeedzUa2Wo/A==,AU,,1494228326 124632493,124637266,2017-05-08 07:25:47,">>124636991 How is it a strawman if you're literally calling yourself a socialist? >national socialist is not socialist",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494228347 124632493,124637269,2017-05-08 07:25:49,">>124636585 Thanks portubro, you are based as always :)",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1494228349 124632493,124637282,2017-05-08 07:26:02,">>124636753 >wants the gubmint to control everything >Y-YOU ARE KEKED W-WE ARE IN A NEO-LIBERAL WORLD 57% of France's GDP is socialized,we have a labor code and unions for whatever the fuck job, and 75% income tax very neoliberal >>124636968 Stalin was also a communist and a nationalist Stalin is a good guy now ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494228362 124632493,124637301,2017-05-08 07:26:17,">>124637167 and where would this energy credit's value derive from exactly?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228377 124632493,124637401,2017-05-08 07:27:43,">>124637213 they just want attention, the 'sister' of communism is nat-soc and fascism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494228463 124632493,124637419,2017-05-08 07:27:59,>>124636846,,Anonymous,success.jpg,0JCnl/xJSEQN11yDNZLmOw==,MT,,1494228479 124632493,124637434,2017-05-08 07:28:08,">>124637237 >People will form militias and eventual establish there own state That's kind of the point. We secede from mainstream politics and creating our own state through voluntary cooperation. You're actually damaging your own ideals by attacking the only efficient and ethical means toward the establishment of a European ethnostate.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494228488 124632493,124637437,2017-05-08 07:28:09,This is now a SPRUDO THREAD.,,Anonymous,,,RS,,1494228489 124632493,124637439,2017-05-08 07:28:12,">>124636753 >successful people are mean ;_: How the fuck do you think you uphold a monopoly? A monopoly is unstable when it happens in a free market environment, a monopoly cannot micromanage every single movement and bend of the free market, that's where small time shops come in and fill the gaps. You'll always have rich people and poor people, the poor are just fucking plebs, lazy and dumb. A monopoly with the help of government can fill in the gaps by making it either impossible (basically impossible to start a car company without being filthy rich because of regulations) to enter the market, or by outright making it illegal to exploit a market without permission (Comcast and Verizon only areas of Internet, time Warner and other small time ISPs are not allowed to compete.)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494228492 124632493,124637481,2017-05-08 07:28:43,">>124637282 >wants private companies to control everything >being such a naive little bitch you actually think these people have your interests at heart are you retarded? Stalin raised the living standard of his country. Literacy rates skyrocketed from below 50% to about 95% among other things. Anybody who tells you otherwise is telling kike lies. The USSR had a better living standard then france and even the US at points during the 60's",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228523 124632493,124637489,2017-05-08 07:28:48,>>124637437,,Anonymous,dimmys brodder.jpg,J6+C4K1Ux+kV6fII79CQAA==,AU,,1494228528 124632493,124637512,2017-05-08 07:29:13,">>124637226 >Why haven't wages risen since the 70's? Even though we have invented automation and computers and women have entered the work place? maybe because of the replacement of gold standard by fiat currency ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494228553 124632493,124637533,2017-05-08 07:29:37,">>124637489 Dob geg",,Anonymous,1477084451683.jpg,dXcAVkq/EUQSGu7DLeAlGg==,US,,1494228577 124632493,124637574,2017-05-08 07:30:08,">>124637437 FUCK I DELETED MY SPRUDO FOLDER. I AM A FAILURE.",,Anonymous,1490704824290.jpg,Di7fQIywu9hBEdBnG+9ALg==,RS,,1494228608 124632493,124637575,2017-05-08 07:30:09,">>124637512 And women entering the labor force. You need two people working to maintain a family for a reason.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494228609 124632493,124637609,2017-05-08 07:30:35,">>124637439 >You'll always have rich people and poor people, the poor are just fucking plebs, lazy and dumb. Right, Hillary Clinton deserves all her cash, so does Paris Hilton, but those hardworking factory workers are just dumb plebs.... You are literal scum. You have no values, no moral fibre, you would rather decedent spoilt brats prosper than people who actually work hard and contribute, most likely because you are one. Being rich is absolutely no sign of merit. Nicola Tesla died Penniless. Off yourself",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228635 124632493,124637611,2017-05-08 07:30:36,">>124636911 >Still, lasted for centuries, unlike.. Unlike monarchy? >Our plan is to stop sustaining and associating with morals we don't support. Or what if some of theese individuals form their own comunity based on say chiild rape? Who would stop them? And how would a libertarian society deal with foreign agression. Surely you don't belive the whole world will turn libertarian at the same time. Can a libertarian society maintain an armored divission, or an air force without taxation?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494228636 124632493,124637677,2017-05-08 07:31:24,">>124637237 Militias are a-okay in Ancapistan. If you infringe on my natural rights though, I am free to equalize your force If people try to create a mob, the masses will eliminate them. Private law enforcement will destroy your statist militia. Dues Ex style Freedom>Slavery Liberty>Tyranny",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494228684 124632493,124637708,2017-05-08 07:32:01,">>124637481 >The USSR had a better living standard then France and even the US at points during the 60's France had a five time higher GDP than USSR's,we already had a high rated literacy and we didn't needed to kill 20 000 000 people for achieving it >>>/leftypol/",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494228721 124632493,124637761,2017-05-08 07:32:51,">>124637512 No its because faggots like you think wages should be decided by the ((((employer))))) and because of faggots like you they can get away with paying peanuts and faggots like you supported the crushing of trade unions etc. You favoured the fatcat in favour of the working man and now look what happens. All that wealth all those machines created went to Vietnam, Nicaragua, Chile,Afghanistan, Iraq/Iran instead of into the pockets of the citizens. That is ""libertarianism"" that is globalism. You give power to the corporations and they fuck you with it. Simple.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228771 124632493,124637792,2017-05-08 07:33:11,">>124637226 Yeah no social freedom or fun stuff cause ((them)). Totally wanna live in your society. Your argument is exactly the same thing I've seen leftys say fyi. Wages haven't risen because we have too many regulations keeping small businesses down, paired with rasing taxes. Corporatism ain't what i or libertarians advocate for. The corporations want big government and regulations because it suits them they can easily follow red tape while small businesses can't. Social and economic freedom go hand in hand, there is no good reason to be against either.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228791 124632493,124637909,2017-05-08 07:34:46,">>124636991 >retarded abo continues shitposting pics of his schizophrenic retard idol Someone call National Geographic, we found the missing link",,Anonymous,you.png,fPAjmhtSSnNeDpmBs4SBSQ==,US,,1494228886 124632493,124637964,2017-05-08 07:35:26,"without going for the full ancap meme what would be a good minimun services that shouldn't be privatized, for example water, gas electricity, garbage you know basic things for a society. Also im not so sure about the privatization of healthcare i think everyone deserves to get treated if they are part of our society",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494228926 124632493,124637971,2017-05-08 07:35:33,">>124637708 > no source >20 gorrilion yup its confirmed for a standard liberal kekservative you realise the population of the USSR increased between 1917 and the collapse of the USSR yes? Funny how you can kill 20 gorrillion and still do that",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494228933 124632493,124638148,2017-05-08 07:37:36,">>124637761 >No its because faggots like you think wages should be decided by the ((((employer))))) and because of faggots like you they can get away with paying peanuts and faggots like you supported the crushing of trade unions etc. the state decide our wages here and we still have outsourcing and high unemployment go back to /leftypol/ posting zizek memes it will be better for you >>124637971 >provide no sources >criticize me for not providing sources the fucking irony",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494229056 124632493,124638167,2017-05-08 07:37:50,">>124636991 Being such a retarded newfag that you can't keep your story straight about how long you've been browsing /pol/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494229070 124632493,124638194,2017-05-08 07:38:10,">>124637792 >Yeah no social freedom or fun stuff cause ((them)). Confirmed for spoilt child, you think your ""freedom"" for trinkets and toys are worth the despair of millions who live in shit because of ((((them)))) > Wages haven't risen because we have too many regulations keeping small businesses down, paired with rasing taxes Too many regulations and yet deregulating the economy caused the 2007 financial crash. > Corporatism ain't what i or libertarians advocate for. Capitalism IS corporatism idiot.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494229090 124632493,124638245,2017-05-08 07:38:44,">>124637609 This. Libertarians are empty shells of people, the only thing that matters to them is shekels and none else. If someone gets cancer and doesnt have enough money for treatment they will tell him he shouldn't have gotten sick and probably deserved it for not being a millionaire and thus being lazy. I think I have more sympathy for a communist than a libertarian scum, we need to exterminate/remove them from dociety like that Hoppe guy wants to do with us.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494229124 124632493,124638279,2017-05-08 07:39:17,">>124637266 >thinks a arbitrary title that can mean multiple different things defines a system. By the modern currently accepted term it is not socialist. It took the name Nationalist Socialist in the scenes of a social community of love and race. It was beneficially sounding at the times political atmosphere. It proves by It's implementation that it is not what your think of socialism as the Marxist doctrine. Again look up corporatism as Economic system NatSoc. >>124637434 So we should destroy the state? To create our own State? Isn't that every political ideology ever? Literally an oxymoron >>124637677 You don't seem to get It, that level of stability is impossible. Somebody could simply buy all the private law enforcement. People will eventually rise to the top, decree there own laws and have there own State. Anarchism is more a temporary stage then an actual ideology. Also most people need to be told what to do. Why do you think we are in this mess today? People need a strong Government made up of the Intellectual Elites that is correct in its ideology and cares for the well being of the people. People are simply to dumb otherwise Also it follows the idea that everybody will magically surrender to your ideology, much like socialism. >>124637909 t. 69 percent obese jew lover GOD BLESS AMERICA >>124638167 >not knowing what /new/ is",,Anonymous,1494067648078.jpg,ts50CwnbfJVZakkssO9RIA==,AU,,1494229157 124632493,124638310,2017-05-08 07:39:41,">>124638194 > Too many regulations and yet deregulating the economy caused the 2007 financial crash. bull-fucking-shit,it was caused because of the low interest of the fed and that the gubmint forced private banks to give credits to poorfags",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494229181 124632493,124638370,2017-05-08 07:40:21,">>124638245 gtfo statist scum",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494229221 124632493,124638397,2017-05-08 07:40:39,">>124637611 Monarchy per se is not really a system with an invariable set of rules. It would be like saying enterprises is a system that has lasted centuries. Some monarchies lasted, some others didn't. >Or what if some of theese individuals form their own comunity based on say chiild rape? Who would stop them? What if some of the world individuals decided to form a community where decapitation, throwing stones to women until they die, and hanging alleged homos from towers was normal? Nobody seems to be stopping them nowadays, and we have plenty of statism to go around. You cannot force your morals on those not willing to accept them. The best you can do is make sure you don't finance their perversions, make sure you never set foot on their land. Another whole topic is how you plan on that rape-circle to be viable without committing crimes and therefore allowing retribution against them. Pretty sure children won't just offer themselves to be part of those communities. >And how would a libertarian society deal with foreign agression. How does any society deal with foreign agression? If you're stronger, you deal with it. If you're weaker, you can't deal with it, irregardless of the system in place. A country that embraces libertarianism is going to be wealthy, and with wealth, comes security. Only poor shitholes get invaded successfully, and sometimes, not even (Vietnam).",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494229239 124632493,124638445,2017-05-08 07:41:12,">>124638279 >abo continues to imply that i am not white by citing bullshit statistic >continues to insinuate i like kikes",,Anonymous,fuck australia.jpg,74LvURUQWOnQ5/FM+BR25g==,US,,1494229272 124632493,124638480,2017-05-08 07:41:44,">>124638279 In Capitalism Paradise, there are leaders, but they become that way through merit, not through a corrupt political process",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494229304 124632493,124638548,2017-05-08 07:42:27,">>124637964 Anarcho Capitalism doesn't mean the total disappearance of community based services. You can have a private city and offer garbage collecting or healthcare as part of the deal to people who buy land within your city.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494229347 124632493,124638642,2017-05-08 07:43:33,">>124635183 >>124635247 >>124635316 >>124635346 Brian, bring back Pinochet's Dank Meme Stash.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494229413 124632493,124638729,2017-05-08 07:44:27,">>124638310 So it was caused by a combination of deregulation and (((((interest)))))) Case rested. You realise under libertarianism its okay to charge whatever ((((interest)))) rate you want so long as its ""voluntary"" you know the bible specifically condemned usurers.... wonder why that could be",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494229467 124632493,124638760,2017-05-08 07:44:52,">>124637609 You immense idiot. Holy fuck. Hillary is part of the government, she offers a service to other governments or crooked people, and she is rewarded for such a corrupt service. Don't like it, fucking get rid of government then, stupid politicians that won't get their hands dirty like her also don't make money like her. I'm not defending her, she's fucking evil, but she's earned her place as Democrat royalty basically. Paris Hilton absolutely deserves whatever cash she has. Who the fuck are you to deny her, her money. She earned it by whoring herself out on TV. Do I like it? No, I think it's stupid, is it good or moral to go take her money because according to you, she didn't earn it? OK, we stole all her millions, who do we give it to now? Random white people? What did they do to deserve it? If we steal from all the rich you don't like the rich will either go away and spend their money elsewhere or retaliate. There is no hard work, only smart work. I work in a factory, but I'm not the retard on the counting department, literally counting parts the size of beans. I have marketable skills (CNC machining), unlike them, who were too stupid to realize they could make more money if they went to a vacational school or a trade school. Not my fault, I should not pay taxes for the stupidity of others. >I have no values and morals My morals are my own, I have the right to ostracize anyone whom I disagree with, now, I don't have the right to fucking steal their property or the right to kill them because muh feels. You are the one with no moral compassion. What would happen when your hobby becomes degenerate? What happens when the NatSocs start purity spiraling and they no longer need mutts like you? Being rich is the highest measurable sign of merit, it means you provided a service so well people felt like giving you lots of money for it. Nicola tesla also had to fight against Westinghouse, who was funded by the government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494229492 124632493,124638769,2017-05-08 07:44:57,">>124638194 >Too many regulations and yet deregulating the economy caused the 2007 financial crash. Lmao, and we're the kikes? You just buy into the Soros propaganda like that without any kind of critic thinking?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494229497 124632493,124638777,2017-05-08 07:45:02,">>124638445 >imply's im a retarded subhuman abo >gets mad when i imply he is a fat nigger jew lover back Are you retarded? >Capitalism >leader through merit, not through a corrupt political process AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH Literally NatSoc was all about approving the best and brightest with the most merit",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494229502 124632493,124638863,2017-05-08 07:46:08,">>124638370 Its cute how libertarians throw around that word like it's supposed to be insult. You're just replacing one evil for an other. You are all Jew cucks.",,Anonymous,imagessssss.jpg,3xrQ2WnfVaBheVPyDaCg/g==,CA,,1494229568 124632493,124638946,2017-05-08 07:46:54,">>124638729 >So it was caused by a combination of deregulation and (((((interest)) >the FED fixing interest rates is deregulation >the gubmint forcing banks offering shit credits is deregulation you are a special kind of you stupid aren't you ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494229614 124632493,124638961,2017-05-08 07:47:05,">>124638194 Corporatism isn't Capitalism. You actually are a lefty but you don't believe in smashing social conservatism or any of thay fun stuff. Your a commie minus the fun stuff, your the worst kind of authoritarian out there. You wanna take freedoms away because of some boogie man. You have shitty reasoning, thats thats why i said its emotional bullshit. Good thing people like you never win. Shit even Nazis are more for freedom than you. Your the worst kind of weak ass traditionalist no fun allowed moron. Read this shit and take it it, you at least should know what you are.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494229625 124632493,124638968,2017-05-08 07:47:12,">>124638245 this, its a spoilt brat ideology for rich kids who think they deserve extra cos their daddies a lawyer. Only spoilt brats can't share. When my kid doesn't share with his brothers, I give him a slap. Not joking. Nothing worse than a spoiled kid, its the one thing i try hardest to avoid.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494229632 124632493,124638972,2017-05-08 07:47:15,">>124638445 >imply's im a retarded subhuman abo >gets mad when i imply he is a fat nigger jew lover back Are you retarded? >>124638480 >Capitalism >leader through merit, not through a corrupt political process AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH Literally NatSoc was all about appointing the best and brightest with the most merit",,Anonymous,1491364693020.jpg,Ig5BJWWAMKYzqc70STYrUw==,AU,,1494229635 124632493,124638995,2017-05-08 07:47:31,">>124638777 >implies i am a fat kikelover >forgets that unlike the rest of the world, literally all australians are british criminals and/or abos",,Anonymous,what a retard.gif,laWz5gvhA/3Ym5yfbxSN7Q==,US,,1494229651 124632493,124638998,2017-05-08 07:47:38,">>124638548 then what's the difference instead of calling it goverment you call it private company, and then there will be people who are born that can't access to those services >>124638769 it's not propaganda the lack of regulations in the market share and econoomy caused a few people to take advantage and scam billions from the people around the world",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494229658 124632493,124639005,2017-05-08 07:47:44,">>124638760 >Westinghouse Kek, sorry, meant Edison",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494229664 124632493,124639035,2017-05-08 07:48:08,">>124638863 The Jew controls through government. You are the real useful idiot. Kikes hate capitalism - FACT They love corporatism because it creates private profits, with public losses. It is a rigged system where the Zionists get richer, and the whole country suffers.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494229688 124632493,124639128,2017-05-08 07:49:28,">>124638972 It is still political, you have to get greasy before you rise the ranks of the political system. In business, the hardest working move up the ranks. The cream rises to the top. AHAHAHA",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494229768 124632493,124639233,2017-05-08 07:50:40,">>124638946 Deregulation from what i was before dum dum its not an all or nothing game. >>124638961 >Corporatism isn't Capitalism Name a capitalist country ever that hasn't been corporatism. > You actually are a lefty but you don't believe in smashing social conservatism I don't really give a shit about what people do in the privacy of their own home. My only goal is to break the financial grip on the world. You would be right in saying I believe more in what communists believe then in what you believe. I am real National Socialist, I am a member of National Action, they invaded everything, in places communists fought them. Libertarians never ever have. Libertariansism, individualism, the freedom of the oligarch to crush the common man, that's libertarian-ism, that's their ideology.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494229840 124632493,124639339,2017-05-08 07:52:05,">>124636265 No, we do not support Communists. They are an inherent threat, and they gotta die.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494229925 124632493,124639387,2017-05-08 07:52:39,">>124639233 >Deregulation from what i was before wut ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494229959 124632493,124639431,2017-05-08 07:53:11,"How to achieve a libertarian society: 1. Get a young traditional wife 2. Get a fine job 3. Make tons of babies 4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other) 5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing 6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants 7. Vote, support parties/think tanks/people that want to reduce govt and degeneracy. Godspeed.",,^~,value-and-tradition.jpg,8p0WYXtekHiPC39W3firjw==,PT,,1494229991 124632493,124639502,2017-05-08 07:53:46,">>124638995 >also forgets that there were stacks of free settler Germans which i am descended from >also forgets the amount of jew Zionist Christians in America >also forgets how many niggers there are that have bred into the general population >also forgets America is the most obese unhealthy nation in the world You a hypocrite >>124639128 >implying in capitalism the corporations don't end up becoming so rich and powerful that they buy the governments. >corporations are not inherently good people Also if the cream rises to the top in capitalism explain the Jews?",,Anonymous,banned_neverbeforeseen_photos_of_hitler_in_shorts_640_01.jpg,81IgOjC/pNJBUA5bSrQ+mQ==,AU,,1494230026 124632493,124639520,2017-05-08 07:53:56,">>124638998 >then what's the difference instead of calling it goverment you call it private company, and then there will be people who are born that can't access to those services The difference is that your obligations and the landlord's obligations are bound by contract exposed to third party arbitration. And yeah, there can be people who are born without access, but Capitalism tends to reduce that number throughout the years better than any other system. >it's not propaganda the lack of regulations in the market share and econoomy caused a few people to take advantage and scam billions from the people around the world Of course it is propaganda. There's nothing more regulated than the banking system, literally NOTHING. The crisis was created by forced low interest rates along with expansive monetary policies that increased the amount of credit and leaded to massive malinvestment. There's no lack of regulation involved, it was all planned by central banks and governments.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494230036 124632493,124639539,2017-05-08 07:54:12,">>124638279 You literally don't understand our position. We believe in private, decentralised law. We believe in the voluntary establishment of covenants that enforce laws via contract. This is superior to your method because we believe in the total exclusion of democrats and communists from our social order, rather than trying to fit them into a social order that they want to destroy. You believe that western people will adopt social conservatism when a government tells them to. We believe that there are people who already are socially conservative, who prefer a conservative social order and prefer a conservative government. Not only are our principles better for implementing real social change, but our governments will be more efficient. The existence of free association and competition between dozens of small sovereign governments will force each government to serve more efficiently than its competitors. Your government is accountable only to its central rulers.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494230052 124632493,124639742,2017-05-08 07:56:36,">>124639539 >libertarian >government so you are still gonna collect taxes then?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494230196 124632493,124639782,2017-05-08 07:57:01,">>124639233 Oh god, National Action lool. What a fucking joke you lot are the biggest fucking joke. You get btfo by lefty cucks all the time. Tbh you sound like more of a Starlinist than a Nazi. Genuinely though your just a confused kid, you shouldn't believe everything you read on /pol/.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494230221 124632493,124639819,2017-05-08 07:57:26,"Everyone seem afraid of the automation of works but I kind see a bright future with it. No work means a lot more of free time for people which leads to a happier population. Plus, people will have more time to focus on what they want since they don't need to worry about making a living which leads to more discoveries and inventions and evolution. My question is, how will a libertarian minarchist or an ancap society handle this?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494230246 124632493,124639864,2017-05-08 07:58:01,">>124638397 Ok you'r just being dishonest with yourself. >What if some of the world individuals decided to form a community where decapitation, throwing stones to women until they die, and hanging alleged homos from towers was normal? Nobody seems to be stopping them nowadays. Even in those countries chiild rape is illegal, so still not quite as bad as my exaple. Not to mention, like you said, ""You cannot force your morals on those not willing to accept them"", so this things will happen. In a libertarian society it would be infinetly easyer to form these kinds of ""communities"". Right now, if I want to stone women, I have to go to Saudi Arabia (not quite easy considering I'm not a saudi or even muslim). but in a libertarian society all the sickos in the country could just band together and make they'r onw chiild rape comunity. >The best you can do is make sure you don't finance their perversions Actually, the best you can do is outright stop them, It's harder with sovereign nations sure, but if it's just a compound of freaks it's not so hard. >committing crimes and therefore allowing retribution against them. Pretty sure children won't just offer themselves to be part of those communities. But doesn't every community make their own rules, and maybe they don't allow the children to leave. In fact, that was my point, you speak of crimes, but who would enforce and even establish the law? When you speak of crime you automatically need a police force, lawmakers, judges and all this without taxation right? >How does any society deal with foreign agression? If you're stronger, you deal with it. >and with wealth, comes security but that's only because you have taxation. You think people would just donate to the military? And how would you choose generals, and where to station the troops? And once you have a military, what stops those guys with so much power to take over and abolish the libertarian system?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494230281 124632493,124639995,2017-05-08 07:59:26,">>124639520 >There's no lack of regulation involved, it was all planned by central banks and governments. i've been working 5 years now in a bank, working in the stock market and i can assure without the regulations it only takes a dozen big banks advisors to crash the market",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494230366 124632493,124640033,2017-05-08 07:59:49,">>124639782 >impyling I get my info from /pol/ and not books No i'm not a meme tier spoilt brat libertarian like yourself, I actually have a job and pay my own rent. You know what that is? Rent? Or did daddy protect you from it to shield you from the evils of capitalism my snowflake friend? >waaaah I can't fuck child prostitues when I want cos of the big bad gubmint >waaaaah i can't sell babies to the jews for shekels >im SOOOOOOO oppressed",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494230389 124632493,124640058,2017-05-08 08:00:08,">>124633857 There is only one response to this",,Anonymous,physicalremoval.png,Snf/HWtyehaxDGgHg6OIcw==,AU,,1494230408 124632493,124640256,2017-05-08 08:02:07,">>124640058 NAP NAP NO THERE IS NOTHING AGGRESSIVE ABOUT SELLING MY BABY TO A PIMP...I MEAN ITS MY BABY AFTER ALL, MY PROPERTY. I DO WHAT I WANT",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494230527 124632493,124640274,2017-05-08 08:02:25,">>124639539 >Communist nation rises >Invades your country >Nobody wants to die so you nation doesn't go to war >becomes Communist or >Communist hires all the private law enforcement >overthrows law by private law enforcement Also the People wil adopt your philosophy when you have a gun at there face, when they don't have that threat they don't have too believe in the truth. Also when you control state media you can brainwash the people into the truth. Do you honestly think leaving it to private interest is a good idea, does it ring any bells? (Jews). Also what is too stop one of those small sovereign governments (contradiction of anarchism) from becoming more powerful? >>124640058 Okay",,Anonymous,AH-color-no-mustache.jpg,ef6Pr4wq8n43APMjpaiuaw==,AU,,1494230545 124632493,124640399,2017-05-08 08:03:40,">>124639819 >how will a libertarian minarchist or an ancap society handle this? Things become so cheap they're practically given away. Since not everything is automated, a lot of people will work in not automated jobs. This will lead to reduction of worktime. Even if it pays ""little"" things are cheap.",,^~,1485950475916.png,nADBWJ+GxgLqfIp15rtKKg==,PT,,1494230620 124632493,124640451,2017-05-08 08:04:25,">>124639502 Jews are a product of corporatism. Government gives them power - the deep state. They hate Uncircumcised Capitalism because it makes them vulnerable to competition. They like regulation because it acts as a barrier of entry into the market",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494230665 124632493,124640590,2017-05-08 08:05:45,">>124640033 I hit a nerve when i said your a confused kid. Its because it's true. Look you can have your strong beliefs or whatever but your not going to find any truth. You really think kikes are behind everything? You ain't thinking. You want answers and you've chosen an easy set that appeals to your personality. Your confused kid.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494230745 124632493,124640621,2017-05-08 08:06:03,">>124640399 You realise companies are already cutting jobs because of automation. A shrewd business man would rather have a machine than person if it is at all possible. Simple. Thats capitalism. Call your phone/internet provider, what do get? A robot.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494230763 124632493,124640814,2017-05-08 08:08:05,">>124640256 Just wanna ads that that stupid straw man convinces no one. As no one actually advocates selling their baby. I mean you think that straw man works, kek?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494230885 124632493,124640837,2017-05-08 08:08:21,">>124640621 What the fuck are you on about, none of that refutes what I said.",,^~,1490554200187.jpg,wnGepDhdjV3xEeHWOXkOIQ==,PT,,1494230901 124632493,124640865,2017-05-08 08:08:41,">>124640590 I'm 35 I have a stable family and job. You are the confused kid. You preach the virtues of capitalism and yet don't seem to understand what capitalism actually is. You think you can have capitalism divorced from the state but there are literally no historical examples of this ever happening besides a list of frankly pathetic pre-industrial societies and fucking Somalia",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494230921 124632493,124640978,2017-05-08 08:09:50,">>124633857 > This is, has and always will be a NatSoc board True, and this has been confirmed with a highly scientific poll",,Anonymous,heil hitler.jpg,PCQTlxl4qQDBABTCLE3/LQ==,CA,,1494230990 124632493,124641075,2017-05-08 08:10:56,">>124638968 How is it a spoilt brat ideology if there are no governments to bribe and lobby for to get extra gibs? That is corporatism, using the arm of the government to enforce laws in your favor. There is nothing in anarcho-capitalism that says people can't share or give to others. Do you honestly think that in a completely voluntary society people would suddenly lose their compassion, or their values and beliefs in order to get ahead? There will always be bad people but there will also always be good people. With anarcho-capitalism, by eliminating government which is inherently coercive and violent we seek to keep out as much power as possible out of the wicked's hands. So as to limit how much bad they can do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494231056 124632493,124641091,2017-05-08 08:11:09,">>124640814 but i mean, Murray Rothbard DOES advocate the selling of babies. That is irrefutable. >>124640837 Yes it does, assuming business men will be shrewd, it means that eventually you end up with mass unemployment, which is already happening, then what do you do? When a handful of (((((they))))) own all the robots and want you to buy their products but there is no jobs? Oh, guess you'll just have to become a ward of the state so they can pay you exactly what they want, just enough to keep them rich. After all, there is 6.9 billion of you, they only have to pay you a teeny weeny bit each",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494231069 124632493,124641130,2017-05-08 08:11:33,">>124640451 That's not Corporatism that's a Corporatocracy, which is basically modern day Capitalism. Corporatism is the complete opposite of what you described it gives the state power over the corporations, the Government then can deem and ban a organization if It is damaging to the state. They also remain in control of key elements of the economy such as Banks. Whilst also being able to control the direction they view the economy would be most beneficial to the state (people). Also stop watching youtube videos that for some retarded reason called a Corporatocracy, Corporatism.",,Anonymous,1493798643296.png,2t07mbfNuC0c1ZZuH5PXsQ==,AU,,1494231093 124632493,124641330,2017-05-08 08:13:31,">>124640865 I'm not an an cap though so thats just dumb. I believe in limited regulations. Like you really have no idea how to forum an argument. You seems to base your ideas on falsehoods and jealously of more successful people. I'm 23 and capitalism is working quite nicely for me, but then again I don't have this loserish mind set. That sees fair competition and simple business as unfair.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494231211 124632493,124641345,2017-05-08 08:13:37,">>124641091 >what is things becoming cheap >what is reduction of labor time mate cmon why would the market not appeal to x% of the population if they can make money off them by providing goods and services... i mean what the fuck are on about?",,^~,,,PT,,1494231217 124632493,124641368,2017-05-08 08:13:52,">>124641075 Its a spoilt brat ideology because it values the individual over the collective.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494231232 124632493,124641438,2017-05-08 08:14:32,">>124641091 So one person = a whole movement. Totally logical.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494231272 124632493,124641454,2017-05-08 08:14:45,">>124633835 Isnt that the prince of lichtenstien?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494231285 124632493,124641622,2017-05-08 08:16:30,">>124639864 >Even in those countries chiild rape is illegal, so still not quite as bad as my exaple. Agree, your example is dumber because it has no grasp in reality. >but in a libertarian society all the sickos in the country could just band together and make they'r onw chiild rape comunity. I specifically asked you how you plan people will be able to do this without breaking laws, since there's no way to do it, my answer after that would be that they would be stopped. They can band together, but the moment they're forcing children into sexual acts they're renouncing to any kind of morality, people who renounce to behave on moral terms shall not be treated in moral ways. >In fact, that was my point, you speak of crimes, but who would enforce and even establish the law? When you speak of crime you automatically need a police force, lawmakers, judges and all this without taxation right? Morality defines the law, violence enforces the law. Morality and violence are not dependent on a state. People will either hire security insurance, provide security to themselves, or live in places where security is present. You will subject yourself to laws and third party arbitration just like with your car insurance you subject yourself to pay other people for the damages you cause on their property. >You think people would just donate to the military? I think people who perceive threats to their security tend to address those threats with an economic interest in protection. You don't agree? >And how would you choose generals, and where to station the troops? Private companies will make sure generals are chosen correctly and troops are stationed properly in order to offer a service people want to purchase. >And once you have a military, what stops those guys with so much power to take over and abolish the libertarian system? If a guy with a stick is all the defense I need, why would I pay hundreds in protection? In order to gain that power they need to justify it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494231390 124632493,124641648,2017-05-08 08:16:47,">>124641330 So you believe in a state then and ""limited regulations"" such as those in place before the crash.... so all of your above arguments are false. I mean define ""limited"" You're basically a liberal that wants slightly less taxes. >>124641345 Only, things haven't got cheaper over time, they have got more expensive. This is caused by the inflation which is inevitable in capitalism. When you have a debt based economy, the value of money is constantly decreasing no matter what.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494231407 124632493,124641715,2017-05-08 08:17:29,">>124639995 Because the markets are extremely dependent on banks thanks to those regulations...",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494231449 124632493,124641762,2017-05-08 08:17:57,">>124641438 1 key figure= a large part of the movement is perfectly logical nice strawman tho, literally saying I said something I did not. In fact you said ""nobody advocates that"" which is false, as I have just proven. At least 1 person advocates that, and most likely more besides considering how revered he is",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494231477 124632493,124641841,2017-05-08 08:18:46,">>124641091 Selling the right to raise babies you utter moron. Not selling babies so you can use them a door tops.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494231526 124632493,124641866,2017-05-08 08:19:02,shame this thread was derailed by a nazi.,,Anonymous,1491543629116.jpg,E8TYKmPjMXZ1jdhrpr4UWQ==,AU,,1494231542 124632493,124641871,2017-05-08 08:19:04,">>124639742 I'm not a libertarian, I'm a right-anarchist. I do believe in taxes, as long as they are properly established through contracts rather than forced onto entire continents and changed arbitrarily with 0 accountability. I personally would associate with a covenant that relies on donations. It would force the government to serve the people in order to stay afloat financially. That's just my preference though, people can set up whatever social order they want as long as it doesn't involve aggression.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494231544 124632493,124641982,2017-05-08 08:20:15,">>124641454 yeah it is, he even wrote a book called ""the state on the third millenium"" which is very hoppean based prince Hans-Adam II >>124641648 >This is caused by the inflation which is inevitable in capitalism. When you have a debt based economy, the value of money is constantly decreasing no matter what. Are you trolling or are you just a fucking retard? You do realize inflation comes from the central banks, right? People wouldn't use inflacionnacy currency if they could, right? You know that libertarians loathe fiat currencies right? Holy shit do a bit of reading on our thoughts before opening your fucking retard mouth holy shit. Go on mises dot com or some shit and search inflation to know what we think of it and how the free market would reject fiat currencies.",,^~,based-prince.jpg,hhNa5wk8/y1G8HADp4IZag==,PT,,1494231615 124632493,124641985,2017-05-08 08:20:18,">>124641368 the collective don't exists only the individual think,only the individual reasons,only the individual acts he can only identify as a part of X collective,but he never represents it >>124641648 >This is caused by the inflation which is inevitable in capitalism. When you have a debt based economy, the value of money is constantly decreasing no matter what. that's fucking keynesianism,we're all austrians here,nice strawman though",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494231618 124632493,124642105,2017-05-08 08:21:41,>>124633857,,Anonymous,1492000492580.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1494231701 124632493,124642112,2017-05-08 08:21:46,">>124640274 >Communist nation rises >Invades your country >Nobody wants to die so you nation doesn't go to war >becomes Communist Firstly, this happened to countries with (large) states throughout the 20th century. This is an inherent issue in the world. The Third Reich was extremely militaristic, yet still fell due to external states (including a communist one). Secondly, you just randomly interjected the idea that nobody would want to retaliate. Why? Thirdly, your personal demand for military security (in agreement with my personal demand) proves that people are generally willing to pay for military security. We can therefore assume that it would exist. We can also assume that covenants would confederate for security purposes. >Communist hires all the private law enforcement >overthrows law by private law enforcement Why would a covenant sell itself out to outsiders? You're just assuming that the leaders of the covenant are completely disloyal to the covenant that they chose to join, which is exactly the same as assuming that politicians are disloyal and only it in it for the money. Your holding my theory to a higher standard than your own. What if the fuhrer is disloyal? >the People wil adopt your philosophy when you have a gun at there face, when they don't have that threat they don't have too believe in the truth. What is more likely: people sharing my philosophy because I voluntarily associate with them, or people adopting my philosophy because I am threatening to kill them? >when you control state media you can brainwash the people into the truth. Do you honestly think leaving it to private interest is a good idea, does it ring any bells? (Jews). Then don't have private media. Fund your covenant to establish a centralised media firm and prohibit private media via contract. >what is too stop one of those small sovereign governments (contradiction of anarchism) from becoming more powerful? This is a rehash of your first question.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494231706 124632493,124642135,2017-05-08 08:22:02,">>124641871 >I'm a right-anarchist. I do believe in taxes AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA >>124641841 ...what is the difference exactly? Who will be regulating this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494231722 124632493,124642297,2017-05-08 08:23:47,"pt.1 newfags cant into covenant communities",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-04-30 at 5.28.50 PM.png,P1sbCMxE7+I12Oc3VPQ8+A==,US,,1494231827 124632493,124642315,2017-05-08 08:23:56,">>124641648 Yeah you've never learned how to argue, all you have is strawmen. My veiws aren't suddenly false because i believe in a state that is just retarded. Your strawmaned me as a ancap and just went with that. I just think your someone who lost out in life because of your own failings and weakness, and now you bitter and balme rich people and jews. Your a loser who made the personal political and thats the rest of your shitty life. Good luck with that mate!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494231836 124632493,124642338,2017-05-08 08:24:11,">>124642135 Go on, point out the contradiction in what I said. Easy to do when you quote me selectively.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494231851 124632493,124642455,2017-05-08 08:25:20,"pt.2 newfags cant into covenant communities",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-04-30 at 5.29.26 PM.png,XvcZNnvrqZqGskYvPOBfRA==,US,,1494231920 124632493,124642470,2017-05-08 08:25:25,,,Anonymous,1.png,/K/z75xCQMlEAVH8XPgDrA==,UA,,1494231925 124632493,124642503,2017-05-08 08:25:48,">>124642135 >...what is the difference exactly? Who will be regulating this? The difference between buying a baby and buying the right to raise a baby? Do I really need to answer that? You don't have any right over the baby, only obligations, that's what Rothbard said you should be able to buy. >Who will be regulating this? Adoption companies through vetting and contractual exposure to violence in case of contract breach.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494231948 124632493,124642512,2017-05-08 08:25:56,">>124642105 >Monarchies are libertarian Its like libertarians will literally only support systems where the top tier is a decadent, degenerate, most likely inbred crony class",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494231956 124632493,124642620,2017-05-08 08:27:06,Are libertarianism possible with protectionism?,,Anonymous,,,UA,,1494232026 124632493,124642668,2017-05-08 08:27:33,">>124642470 saved more ukrainian 2D",,Anonymous,1493702064942.jpg,6EzU3xwUNHBGU3743TDAsQ==,US,,1494232053 124632493,124642705,2017-05-08 08:28:01,REEEEEEE,,Anonymous,THE_REAL_RED_PILL.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,US,,1494232081 124632493,124642728,2017-05-08 08:28:12,>>124642668,,Anonymous,fe2acfa7c86d.jpg,fODTo7yekg4RgEfWo3SiHQ==,UA,,1494232092 124632493,124642827,2017-05-08 08:29:17,">>124642315 You accuse me of strawmanning, how is it a strawman, you say you support limited regulation, so what regulation? Inevitably enforcing these regulations means you have to extract taxes to pay for the enforcement arm. This is essentially liberalism. There is no real difference in doing this and paying for say, universal healthcare, its just MORE taxes, but then your argument is just one of degrees. How can you make such concrete statements when the system you propose is essentially a variation on percentage points of various taxes? You say I use strawmen then throw a whole bunch of ad homs at me. Calling me a >loser and >bitter is, to quote /yourguy/ is, not an argument. >>124642338 You are an anarchist (no state) but you believe in taxes (state)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494232157 124632493,124642949,2017-05-08 08:30:43,">>124642503 >Adoption companies through vetting and contractual exposure to violence in case of contract breach. and what actual incentive do they have to stop babies from being harmed? and how are they going to know if the baby is being harmed?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494232243 124632493,124642970,2017-05-08 08:30:52,">>124642705 fuck off nu-/pol/",,Anonymous,1486833024560.jpg,11EmmstzStNnLFBMBIlPOA==,NL,,1494232252 124632493,124643028,2017-05-08 08:31:24,">>124642620 there is no such thing as protectionism ends are given",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494232284 124632493,124643210,2017-05-08 08:33:35,">>124642970 fuck off Stormfront",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494232415 124632493,124643234,2017-05-08 08:33:49,">>124641130 Semantics - you're flat out wrong buck-o",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494232429 124632493,124643260,2017-05-08 08:34:07,">>124642728 spacibo",,Anonymous,1485799391464.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,US,,1494232447 124632493,124643324,2017-05-08 08:34:45,">>124642112 >nations call fall due to military invasions duh you simpleton, but if you have no government forcing you too go too war, why would you? Where is the guarantee your state will last and defend itself. This is all based on a blind faith. Now what the hell is too stop me from gaining more money and buying them, your personal demand is nothing to me, I can buy them all for is this not a capitalist system? This point is so retarded. The natural nature of people is too be greedy and sell to the highest bidder, few people are as moralistic and loyal to the truth as you like to spin it as and really who the hell is the Fuhrer is going to be disloyal to? Himself? Who can buy him of his power? Also the whole idea of the Fuhrer is about a finding a selfless man who cares about nothing more then his people and appoints a man equal to this. >What is more likely: people sharing my philosophy because I voluntarily associate with them, or people adopting my philosophy because I am threatening to kill them? see religious conversions throughout history >implying people will fund there media on the goodness of there heart You really have no idea about the human condition do you? Also this is capitalism, why can't somebody start there own media business? Just proved you still can't answer that question",,Anonymous,1490951088063.gif,fSjL2IuYprnT7e8twSUgGA==,AU,,1494232485 124632493,124643355,2017-05-08 08:35:11,">>124643210 triggered redditor?",,Anonymous,1377930786786.jpg,j8I45ddwyOf8CX0uy0ioBw==,NL,,1494232511 124632493,124643362,2017-05-08 08:35:15,">>124642827 If you were familiar with right-anarchism you would know that the 3 most common, most central tenants are: non-aggression, contractual obligation and free association. I understand that there are semantic difficulties here, but in a right-anarchist society people would be free to: voluntarily (non-aggression) agree (contractual obligation) to collectivise via taxation (free association). The voluntarily funding of covenants is completely compatible with right-anarchism (and more importantly, with the non-aggression principle).",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494232515 124632493,124643383,2017-05-08 08:35:28,">>124641622 >Agree, your example is dumber because it has no grasp in reality. How so? > they would be stopped. By who? >Morality defines the law People don't agree on what morality is, not to mention many don't even care. >violence enforces the law And not just the law, but your own will as well. With different understandings of morality, things will just turn into the wiild west, or Somalia. >People will either hire security insurance, provide security to themselves, or live in places where security is present. Sure, ok, that's for self defense, but what about people who are born into abussive families, like the example I gave. >You will subject yourself to laws and third party arbitration But who is this third party? What i I don't recognise their authority? What if they'r biased against me for some reason (like they don't share my moral view, or they were bribed)? >I think people who perceive threats to their security tend to address those threats with an economic interest in protection. You don't agree? I agree that most people will, but when it comes to giving money voluntarily, while others don't, I also think people will underestimate the threat of foreing powers. Not to mention, to have a military, you would need some entity (i guess you would call it a corporation) that recieves the money and manages the army. How would that corporation be different than the state? >Private companies will make sure generals are chosen correctly and troops are stationed properly in order to offer a service people want to purchase. Stationing troops is not about what people want to purchase, but about the omptimal strategic deloyment, and as you said, I think this will be overwritten by economic reasoning. >If a guy with a stick is all the defense I need, why would I pay hundreds in protection? In order to gain that power they need to justify it. A guy with a stick wan't stop the Chinese or Russian militaries for example.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494232528 124632493,124643442,2017-05-08 08:36:09,">>124642949 >incentive do they have to stop babies from being harmed Being known as a company where children won't be given to people who abuse them. Otherwise people won't provide them with children to give in adoption. Abusing a baby is de-facto refusing to be subjected by law, and therefore, people who abuse babies and just anyone will be exposed to violence. >and how are they going to know if the baby is being harmed? Companies will schedule yearly revisions to make sure the terms of the contract are being respected?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494232569 124632493,124643554,2017-05-08 08:37:21,">>124642512 here you go- pic related A monarch parasities his subjects but he does so in a calculated and farsighted manner since he wants to preserve the capital value of his people and increase their productivity. A temporary democratic caretaker, on the other hand, will have an incentive to increase shortsightedness and plunder the people's resources as fast as he can as long as he is in power",,Anonymous,"41umok67s0L._SX332_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",wbE7OFs8P1SXwC88JdBKgw==,NL,,1494232641 124632493,124643571,2017-05-08 08:37:31,"red-pilling statists gives you good feels right in a benis",,Anonymous,1494182994567.gif,HwfuBybNehxGM5ACzbfeJg==,CA,,1494232651 124632493,124643580,2017-05-08 08:37:41,">>124643324 >Be nationalist >Not understanding why people would choose to fight for their Homeland. >>124643355 Lol at that brown guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494232661 124632493,124643645,2017-05-08 08:38:26,">>124643260 https://twitter.com/msc_nm - twitter of Japan painter who create anime arts with Ukrainian Soldiers",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1494232706 124632493,124643676,2017-05-08 08:38:51,">>124642827 M8 you've lost it. I simply believe in an efficient system with low taxes some services and lots of freedom. Call it Libertarianism, Liberalism i don't care. I think its a good idea and its far more attractive to people than a shitty gray world with no money or freedom. I think your poor and you resent others, if so i would say you deserve to be poor. But it ain't up to me if you were able to offer a service or product that people wanted you could have money. That's why capitalism is king. You don't have to be a loser, you got choice bitch!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494232731 124632493,124643784,2017-05-08 08:40:10,">>124643260 it's spacibi/dyanko in Ukraine t.son of a white expat",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494232810 124632493,124643905,2017-05-08 08:41:39,">>124643362 Why would anybody rich enough to afford private services ever pay taxes? You realise without the rich paying taxes the budget for most developed countries would be almost nothing. Sure, people in the community might see the need, but ultimately, because of the nature of capitalism, they will not be able to afford it. Goods and services will still be priced to contend with the spending of the rich. You could attempt to make peacemeal community efforts but how many neighbourhoods do you know of where everyone could chip in and they would have all the services they need. Very few, and those that can would simply purchase them for themselves.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494232899 124632493,124643906,2017-05-08 08:41:40,">>124643580 What is conscription? Literal proof of what I say all throughout history",,Anonymous,1494064969862.png,mhkSlHDKsmMWJ6H1C3eKSg==,AU,,1494232900 124632493,124643976,2017-05-08 08:42:28,">>124643355 This is NazBol Thread now, off to Gulag Tulipmerchant! In all seriousness what do NatSocs think of NazBol?",,Anonymous,1200px-National_Bolshevik_Party.svg.png,Fb3+PC1vLU17mtN01wNwyA==,US,,1494232948 124632493,124644078,2017-05-08 08:43:39,">>124643676 I'm not poor, these are so many ad homs and im the one whose lost it?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494233019 124632493,124644133,2017-05-08 08:44:28,">Stormfaggots I have unfortunately been here since /new/, and it was mostly meme Libertarians and a few ironic Nazis, it wasn't until towards the end that Stormfront literally started shilling the fuck out of it, hence why it got shut down. Then /pol/ was created and actively worshipped Ron Paul up until the Obama re-election, now we have all these new wave Fashys, Deus Vult larpers, Nazis, and r_thedonald faggots. I can guarantee that most of them are newfags and think because they have been here since last summer they are masters of board culture.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1494233068 124632493,124644161,2017-05-08 08:44:45,">>124643976 sounds like communism without the promised utopia at the end at least NazBol seems honest in what they intend to accomplish",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494233085 124632493,124644262,2017-05-08 08:46:03,">>124643976 Retarded Cancer",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494233163 124632493,124644268,2017-05-08 08:46:07,">>124643976 they can only achieve equality through destruction of history and culture, so it can fuck right off. Russia already destroyed its history so for them it could work",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494233167 124632493,124644270,2017-05-08 08:46:10,>>124643976,,Anonymous,220px-Alceste_de_Ambris_1930.jpg,9stw/Zh6dZk8Ah0frR2FyQ==,GB,,1494233170 124632493,124644358,2017-05-08 08:47:28,">>124643324 >if you have no government forcing you too go too war, why would you? Please think about what I've said before you ask questions. The simple answer is: include it in a contract. Join a covenant which has a contract that includes conscription. >Where is the guarantee your state will last and defend itself. This applies equally to you. >Now what the hell is too stop me from gaining more money and buying them This also applies to you, politicians get bought off all the time. I'm not going to bother answering these questions that you are typing blindly. Be intellectually honest and hold yourself to the standards that you are applying to me. >the whole idea of the Fuhrer is about a finding a selfless man who cares about nothing more then his people and appoints a man equal to this. Again, you're holding me to a completely different standard, because I can say the exact same thing. The whole idea of the covenant leader is about a finding a selfless man who cares about nothing more then his people. >see religious conversions throughout history Christianity is superior to Islam. >implying people will fund there media on the goodness of there heart Why not? You want to have a state operated media. You find a covenant with state operated media. Their contract requires you to pay 1% of your income to fund the state operated media. You agree that breaking the contract should result in your excommunication. That's free association.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494233248 124632493,124644397,2017-05-08 08:47:52,">>124644078 Way to sell your inefficient system. You got nutting my nig, no arguments. I'm out but i just wanted to put this lilcherry on the top. Your shit has been dismantled nicely in this thread, you probably to dumb to realise.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494233272 124632493,124644483,2017-05-08 08:49:04,">>124637971 You are a fucking idiot. You don't know how much death and suffering and economic crippling communism had caused to my country. Please die.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1494233344 124632493,124644487,2017-05-08 08:49:07,">>124644133 /board",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494233347 124632493,124644494,2017-05-08 08:49:12,">>124644268 >>>124643976 (You) >they can only achieve equality through destruction of history and culture, so it can fuck right off. Russia already destroyed its history so for them it could work But it combines radical Russian Nationalism with Communism. Why would it destroy history?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494233352 124632493,124644621,2017-05-08 08:50:36,"Advise me current libertarian media, bloggers, politican (in USA) etc",,Anonymous,vY-3ryzBYss.jpg,FbqMsJYR0YuuLJSn8xWrBg==,UA,,1494233436 124632493,124644624,2017-05-08 08:50:39,">>124643976 I concur, This thread belongs to the Naz/pol/ army and the /strasserist/ crew.",,Anonymous,peron strasserist crew.png,aCYg6h7qRYJMtODOfjZt3A==,US,,1494233439 124632493,124644656,2017-05-08 08:51:01,,,Anonymous,0c8c7652a3aa9af14fe50bde2b762a6bd99d5c670aca14238335712934ebb6ec.jpg,gZ0ajXdLw/YHmrpOldVopA==,US,,1494233461 124632493,124644695,2017-05-08 08:51:25,,,Anonymous,1494227908237.jpg,3XEvMp9U1dzisVInIeXGvQ==,US,,1494233485 124632493,124644740,2017-05-08 08:51:49,,,Anonymous,strasserist pol logo.png,gfsfomcbT9lRcu+PwQKxYw==,US,,1494233509 124632493,124644748,2017-05-08 08:51:55,">>124644494 to achieve equality >>124644133 been here since 2013",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494233515 124632493,124644772,2017-05-08 08:52:11,,,Anonymous,c40eda530344609fa2c58aa32398523ef5634b70e0305d05c55efff7272b8e0d.jpg,oTVmmhG157fe2kzKF6x3LQ==,US,,1494233531 124632493,124644798,2017-05-08 08:52:33,,,Anonymous,national_bolshevik___strasserist_prop__poster_by_americansfr-dapcq6f.png,nb37olCiNkjo9RAyPUQ+HQ==,US,,1494233553 124632493,124644800,2017-05-08 08:52:34,">>124644133 honestly I don't mind NatSocs that much as long we respect each other's privacy. A lot of what we intend to accomplish share parallels, such as long-term eugenics. Whether it is acknowledged or not, AnCap is soft eugenics where degenerates will die from financial hardships due to the lack of welfare, purifying the gene pool. NatSoc is just hard eugenics -- they're kind enough to waste bullets on people who might purchase that bullet themselves and pull their own trigger due to the lack of gibs. /leftypol/ on the other hand will butt in with all sorts of ad-homs and pronouns about how they're actually not X, and to read more about another obscure ""-ist"" ideology. ""Read Y and Y's work"" or they post a tl;dr. It's just too difficult and complicated for them to explain, hence why pictures of muh pink capitalist pig is just memed around the same way Jews are. I'd eather /pol/ than /leftypol/ anyday. We share much more in common with Nazi's by a long shot than with anywhere else. Infighting and bantz is just tough love.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494233554 124632493,124644811,2017-05-08 08:52:41,">>124644268 Additionally the guys who created it are ardent Old Believers of the Orthodox tradition. They seem keen on Russian culture as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494233561 124632493,124644812,2017-05-08 08:52:42,">>124632493 are you /ptg/ portubro ?",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1494233562 124632493,124644835,2017-05-08 08:52:58,,,Anonymous,corbyn nazbol.png,FHG71OWbbvQnQgp3Di3Ajg==,NL,,1494233578 124632493,124644849,2017-05-08 08:53:07,Retards are infesting the thread!,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494233587 124632493,124644862,2017-05-08 08:53:17,,,Anonymous,53ce98c3170ecac95f7f54e437edadfc7321987a9babb84ab0b506e8482d3f6f.png,a6Ve6aQzD2x42707iqYxFA==,US,,1494233597 124632493,124644873,2017-05-08 08:53:21,">>124643976 the foundator of NazBol party was Dugin,a white hater,muslim lover,mystic traditionalist and their current leader is a degenerate criminal who wrote a book about how he sucked niggers dicks in new york and blamed it on capitalism cancer in pure form",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494233601 124632493,124644900,2017-05-08 08:53:37,">>124644849 nah, we're cleaning up senpai",,NAZBOL GANG,,,NL,,1494233617 124632493,124644957,2017-05-08 08:54:10,">>124644772 Report",,Anonymous,939c13c90f44f8a6c86f6e90cbbc64b9007a2f959e4824d2372e9ac1fed9d83a.jpg,Tn/GUZKkDMUjI5v/BvaWag==,GB,,1494233650 124632493,124644969,2017-05-08 08:54:20,">>124632493 Shit man, you guys don't sleep. glad to see /lrg/ thriving. May we retake the board and drive out redditarians, libertines, and nihlo-libertarians!",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1494233660 124632493,124644988,2017-05-08 08:54:35,">>124643383 >How so? Because there are no examples, nowhere in history children rapists have gathered to make their perversion sustainable. >By who? Anyone with guns. Refusal to respect other people's rights is a declaration of war, declarations of war incur retaliation. >People don't agree on what morality is, not to mention many don't even care. I believe there are certain moral conducts most people will agree with, like not raping children. >With different understandings of morality You might have an unique morality code, but in the example you're portraying, they're enforcing this morality on the non-willing, therefore you cannot talk about morality, they're renouncing to moral treatment by rejecting to respect other people's morals. >I agree that most people will, but when it comes to giving money voluntarily, while others don't How come buildings have elevator maintenance then? Must be the state forcing communities to pay for their ""taxes"", right? >Stationing troops is not about what people want to purchase, but about the omptimal strategic deloyment, and as you said, I think this will be overwritten by economic reasoning. Yeah, economic reasoning, the same reasoning that leads us to purchase the best offer we can get with the minimum amount of money to cover our needs. If strategic deployment is required to perform security tasks, then it will be paid for. >A guy with a stick wan't stop the Chinese or Russian militaries for example. Neither would 99% of tax-funded governments. If a real Chinese/Russian threat was shadowing over a pacifist capitalist country, then what would stop other countries from gathering, seeing as, obviously, Russia and China have lost their shit in your example?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494233675 124632493,124644993,2017-05-08 08:54:37,Cordreanu was NazBol.,,Anonymous,592eb5becef256f22d08009d8985e66e1ff764bfdb1fef23cb7cb6d2d4d2b544.jpg,qoIaYqjWdIFGq4QbA2cFrQ==,US,,1494233677 124632493,124645008,2017-05-08 08:54:46,">>124644621 some of Stefan Molyneux's older videos are particularly nice before he became much too invested in current affairs I recommend him",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494233686 124632493,124645021,2017-05-08 08:54:54,">>124644900 nazbol is the most retarded ideology of this planet even niggers can find more coherent shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494233694 124632493,124645048,2017-05-08 08:55:12,">>124644957 my nigga.",,Anonymous,j_e.jpg,4bg+mRo5NYBegqZUCR6Atw==,US,,1494233712 124632493,124645091,2017-05-08 08:55:40,,,Anonymous,1494044521330.png,RDPoNUNXapQ5TOM6ghXpDg==,US,,1494233740 124632493,124645094,2017-05-08 08:55:42,">>124644873 Read some Marinetti you fucking garlic jerk",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494233742 124632493,124645111,2017-05-08 08:55:56,">>124645048 you hate whites ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494233756 124632493,124645116,2017-05-08 08:55:58,">>124645021 libertarianism is the most retarded ideology of this planet even niggers can find more coherent shit",,NAZBOL GANG,nazbol gang.png,NFC2UDMoMuA8j4i3MFLayg==,NL,,1494233758 124632493,124645149,2017-05-08 08:56:27,">>124632493 >lolbertarianism lmao",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1494233787 124632493,124645154,2017-05-08 08:56:30,">>124634507 IDK been on since 04 and pol has been ancap the entire time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494233790 124632493,124645163,2017-05-08 08:56:36,">>124644873 >>>124643976 (You) >the foundator of NazBol party was Dugin,a white hater,muslim lover,mystic traditionalist I haven't read anywhere that he hates Whites. Mostly just hates Ukrainians for being a meme country with the Crimea. Why would he love Islam if he is an Orthodox Christian Old Believer? >and their current leader is a degenerate criminal who wrote a book about how he sucked niggers dicks in new york and blamed it on capitalism Who would that be?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494233796 124632493,124645167,2017-05-08 08:56:38,">>124645116 We naz/pol/ now.",,Anonymous,71db7fa26a3704018ca8aa012e19bbbcd8df6f214b6b4104f829486522e38979.png.jpg,DgphFfl6SbExAz5oQVWe8w==,US,,1494233798 124632493,124645168,2017-05-08 08:56:39,">>124645008 1 MEASLY DOLLAR",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494233799 124632493,124645180,2017-05-08 08:56:48,how come libertarians always complain about not being able to shoot up drugs or collect rain water but they never say or do anything when the government uses their tax money to displace them?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494233808 124632493,124645184,2017-05-08 08:56:50,">>124633857 this fucking plebit subhumans",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1494233810 124632493,124645222,2017-05-08 08:57:12,">>124645094 >futurism disgusting",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494233832 124632493,124645234,2017-05-08 08:57:20,">>124645154 >IDK been on since 14 and pol has been ancap the entire time. FTFY, redditor >>124645167 trump is definitely nazbol",,NAZBOL GANG,comradetrump.png,1Z4Gk3iaHk8LCMPnga99Lw==,NL,,1494233840 124632493,124645255,2017-05-08 08:57:29,,,Anonymous,C-X8E4cWsAEAgdf.jpg large.jpg,et6GvrCltFnWa9v1v4btlg==,US,,1494233849 124632493,124645256,2017-05-08 08:57:30,">>124635892 Stomp stomp motherfucker >>124632493 Are you the commie spaniard's reverse twin?",,Anonymous,tread.webm,FDo2KdmCFItDgUwZFU6TTQ==,RO,,1494233850 124632493,124645264,2017-05-08 08:57:35,">>124645168 yeah his memes are pretty spicy loved the WHITE SUPREMACY video",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494233855 124632493,124645320,2017-05-08 08:58:12,,,Anonymous,whats nazbol.jpg,CNai8PPd13V9mIRryu+NVQ==,US,,1494233892 124632493,124645342,2017-05-08 08:58:24,trump belongs to nazbol gang,,NAZBOL GANG,comradetrump2.jpg,9IX0CQ+vmRsLm0iF38NBSg==,NL,,1494233904 124632493,124645361,2017-05-08 08:58:42,">>124645222 He wrote the Italian Fascist Manifest you fucking Cretin. LEARN A LITTLE FUCKING HISTORY DUMBASS LOLBERT THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON CAPITALISM",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494233922 124632493,124645397,2017-05-08 08:59:06,">>124645163 >Who would that be? Limonov >>124645116 >nazbol >hates niggers Did you know Dugin support Zimbabwe ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494233946 124632493,124645405,2017-05-08 08:59:10,">>124643905 >Why would anybody rich enough to afford private services ever pay taxes? Well what's the difference between those two things? The voluntary taxes are payments for private services, just within a contract. In fact the private services would almost definitely have a similar contract. To answer, I would say that rich people would pay the price for living in a covenant just the same as a poor person. That's depending on how the covenants choose to organise their contracts. >without the rich paying taxes the budget for most developed countries would be almost nothing I disagree. People pay the covenant proportionally. More people join, more money gets pooled. As long as the budget is competently managed, there would be no difference between the funding of a government and a covenant. In fact, with free association measures, the government would need to be efficient in order to compete with other covenants. I fail to see why covenants would be completely starved just because of free association.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494233950 124632493,124645467,2017-05-08 08:59:54,">>124644812 nop >>124644969 24/7 round the globe",,^~,1490440981890.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1494233994 124632493,124645477,2017-05-08 08:59:56,">>124645264 THE ONLY REASON MY MOM IS ALIVE IS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T KILLED HER YET NO, ANCAPS HAVING MOMMY ISSUES IS NOT.AN.ARGUMENT",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494233996 124632493,124645486,2017-05-08 09:00:03,">>124635264 > doesn't understand government =/= the state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494234003 124632493,124645496,2017-05-08 09:00:12,The fire rises.,,Anonymous,strasserist march.png,+nbC1ab8+AVHVAs6NawdQw==,US,,1494234012 124632493,124645499,2017-05-08 09:00:16,">>124645361 he is still a futurist the must disgusting art on earth fascist can't into aesthetics",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494234016 124632493,124645520,2017-05-08 09:00:34,">>124645477 so true haha",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494234034 124632493,124645810,2017-05-08 09:03:16,">>124644358 First of all you ideology is running of on itself and is no longer ancap >Please think about what I've said before you ask questions. The simple answer is: include it in a contract. Join a covenant which has a contract that includes conscription. No longer ancap, this is no longer ""contracts"" that is a law. >This applies equally to you. Laws, Government, Dictatorship all enforced, not buy able not negotiable >This also applies to you, politicians get bought off all the time. I'm not going to bother answering these questions that you are typing blindly. Be intellectually honest and hold yourself to the standards that you are applying to me. I'm a NatSoc or economically Corporatism. The State can destroy any corporation it deems corrupted or unfit for the state. It is also illegal to buy out politicians. In your system there Is no law that bans selling to the highest bidder, that Is literally ancap. >Again, you're holding me to a completely different standard, because I can say the exact same thing. The whole idea of the covenant leader is about a finding a selfless man who cares about nothing more then his people. >person with supreme power of a nation >guy who just wants to make money and have a good life pick one You keep drifting out of ancap and into actual lawful society with your responses >Christianity is superior to Islam. This just proves to me you have no real understanding of history or the world, you think Christianity never forcefully converted anybody. It's the reason half of Europe is Christian. >Why not? You want to have a state operated media. You find a covenant with state operated media. Their contract requires you to pay 1% of your income to fund the state operated media. You agree that breaking the contract should result in your excommunication. That's free association. Again this is not ancap, these are basically laws you are calling ""contracts"" and the ""Covenants"" Governments",,Anonymous,1489668823184.png,zdZfo67nhy0gCIm3bHVK3w==,AU,,1494234196 124632493,124645831,2017-05-08 09:03:30,">>124645397 >Liminov >Prefers big blacks Holy fuck Top Kek Frogman. >Supports Zimbabwe That's just retardation. Rhodesia under Smith was better in every possible way.",,Anonymous,1200px-Flag_of_Rhodesia.svg.png,LukAPtap/2ez/Pos6QSAyA==,US,,1494234210 124632493,124646023,2017-05-08 09:05:26,"I wanna say thanks to my Slovakian brother who shilled this guys youtube account. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE made me not hate classical liberals so much.",,Anonymous,The_Revolutionary.png,V1/wvwPgIK9i7A5zk9Wldg==,US,,1494234326 124632493,124646033,2017-05-08 09:05:33,">>124645810 Also stop reflecting every question I give you, answer and it and respond. Don't give me the WAH WAH HARD ANSWER ME NOT LIKE YOU ANSWER EVERY QUESTION FOR ME. Just diverting the question into me.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494234333 124632493,124646056,2017-05-08 09:05:51,Even the golden one is with the Strasserist Crew.,,Anonymous,golden one is strasserist.png,wuc7F8lSfjYdp5hLCjinWw==,US,,1494234351 124632493,124646060,2017-05-08 09:05:56,">>124645810 >Voluntarily subjecting yourself to some limitations in order to achieve an agreement for a mutually beneficial interaction is no longer ancap Are you really this dense or you're just having a bad day?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494234356 124632493,124646189,2017-05-08 09:07:09,,,Anonymous,1494204897562.png,yBEwHkFpSaQIYCDLD2XrFw==,US,,1494234429 124632493,124646293,2017-05-08 09:08:13,,,Anonymous,9826515a809c50a08d8655245d47dbcde2bf09e6353cfd0cce9e61b2fa126247.jpg,khe1Mfbl9dCuvUQbOqkEaQ==,US,,1494234493 124632493,124646307,2017-05-08 09:08:19,">>124643976 >National >Kikery Literal Zionists by name. get outta here.",,Anonymous,The_Reactionary.png,a9mKWWlXab4tPn2c5nqSDQ==,US,,1494234499 124632493,124646365,2017-05-08 09:08:54,">>124644988 >Because there are no examples, nowhere in history children rapists have gathered to make their perversion sustainable. Bell yes, but then again, libertarianism has never really been tried as you said. And it could happen from what you told me, I mean, you surely don't deny the existance of pedophiles, so what would stop it? >Anyone with guns. As much as i hate pedophiles, I'm not gonna storm a town of (probably)armed degenerates. that you'r even suggesting this just shows how rigiculous your model is. >I believe there are certain moral conducts most people will agree with, like not raping children. Except thos who rape children, and not to mention those who don't care, or care but have families of their own and would rather not risk their lives like that. I mean, some will, but that sound like some apocaliptic society, much worse than what we have even now. >they're enforcing this morality on the non-willing, therefore you cannot talk about morality Fine, but there are many people that would do this, not just pedophiles. Take muslims for example.You can't just do away with laws and judges because people will solve it themselves. >How come buildings have elevator maintenance then? Not a proper comparison, it's not unreasonable to think the military would be underfunded if it was just based on charity and not taxation. >If a real Chinese/Russian threat was shadowing over a pacifist capitalist country, then what would stop other countries from gathering Oh, they can gather all they want, but my point is, and you seem to avoid this, that they wouldn't have an actual military, just a bunch of security firms for civil defense. And again, say you give money to a corporation that manages the army, how is that different than the state? Also, you would probably have multiple such corporations in one county, so you can say goodbye to a central command.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494234534 124632493,124646377,2017-05-08 09:09:01,,,Anonymous,8d4a8fa1923081fa8ab9a70656a3fbce3300f976fb2944f4fd0de16f447f945c.png,evgkyfblEtsIdHOmCZcdNQ==,US,,1494234541 124632493,124646415,2017-05-08 09:09:22,,,Anonymous,025e19ea86442e1dded3ee20fe5fad8e9279f75b4d8e8559c675930d111a0c49.jpg,wuALcuu9kywQMgDETIDmNA==,US,,1494234562 124632493,124646442,2017-05-08 09:09:39,">>124646307 >zionist worst third-worldist",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494234579 124632493,124646458,2017-05-08 09:09:51,">>124646060 Do you even read the full thing, his basically replacing the laws Government with ""Covenant"" and Laws with ""Contract""",,Anonymous,1481735333085.jpg,O5W6chBwRnZNlh8glOHa1g==,AU,,1494234591 124632493,124646518,2017-05-08 09:10:33,,,Anonymous,nicola-bombacci.png,VYhY3AEPq9+KJgv9WaqCEg==,US,,1494234633 124632493,124646605,2017-05-08 09:11:32,">>124637909 >Someone call National Geographic, we found the missing link",,Anonymous,1491041076371.jpg,jJQH1MRcNXKM2eza3xOm0w==,US,,1494234692 124632493,124646614,2017-05-08 09:11:35,,,Anonymous,third positionist 6.png,ykHOMxdge8mvCAmEZapwxA==,US,,1494234695 124632493,124646623,2017-05-08 09:11:39,">>124646458 difference: convenant->enter with consent state->forced to enter into whatever",,^~,,,PT,,1494234699 124632493,124646673,2017-05-08 09:12:20,,,Anonymous,nazbol pepe.jpg,8BY/JoML2B7AWGNhj4/nzw==,US,,1494234740 124632493,124646703,2017-05-08 09:12:41,,,Anonymous,Fascom_vectorized_zpsc2f6519f.png,Ul2jiwtkDCmB1WWpTsz7NA==,US,,1494234761 124632493,124646712,2017-05-08 09:12:45,">>124646623 You were allowed to leave the country in NatSoc Germany.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494234765 124632493,124646836,2017-05-08 09:14:08,">>124646623 Also that's till a form of Government and is no longer ancap",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494234848 124632493,124646845,2017-05-08 09:14:14,,,Anonymous,strasserism confuse liberals.jpg,aYuBdlH6kf3TOlgalSdnmg==,US,,1494234854 124632493,124646860,2017-05-08 09:14:21,I cordially apologize for infesting this thread with NazBols. I'll await my helicopter ride.,,Anonymous,d53.jpg,wS9YpzkZk92EN3C+YDcuJQ==,US,,1494234861 124632493,124646921,2017-05-08 09:14:58,">>124645810 >what's the difference between a voluntary private contract and a social contract written centuries ago, completely involuntary and entirely illegitimate for anyone living today fucking moron.",,Anonymous,crump.jpg,/ivw1e+8/mEYXAvvb8MSHg==,AU,,1494234898 124632493,124646948,2017-05-08 09:15:11,,,Anonymous,4a2a743d2d7d814a25f7a0a1b86613694493ff7a43a4bf46c91831ab3a990961.jpg,hgeLAPrb94erb+zU8B23sw==,US,,1494234911 124632493,124647007,2017-05-08 09:15:47,">>124646712 The land of a county should belong to the people not the state. >>124646836 There is consent. People are free to buy govt-like services. A Govt implies coercion, a convenant implies an explict contract. Stop being such a brainlet please.",,^~,,,PT,,1494234947 124632493,124647038,2017-05-08 09:16:08,,,Anonymous,79677a36087f411299dd8a1bad364e7d1a96d0573db5d06ede89000de7b5225e.png,KiWoX545XYd5R1sFl30tcQ==,US,,1494234968 124632493,124647050,2017-05-08 09:16:16,">>124646860 you fucked up m8",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494234976 124632493,124647090,2017-05-08 09:16:36,,,Anonymous,7ad5baf5f922b509ed2b7ee9afeb46b1558fd7f14e62cd05f8b0544bc3f6f4c3.jpg,JxM7NatM4lImqhmlF+mHBg==,US,,1494234996 124632493,124647174,2017-05-08 09:17:26,">>124646921 Read what he said you simpleton. A ""Covenant"" with all these ""Contracts"" is just a Government you leave when you want and is no longer ancap",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494235046 124632493,124647192,2017-05-08 09:17:36,">>124646836 AnCap is a rejection of government by rule of force without consent or voluntarily agreement. It is not a hard rejection of any and all governance as an absolute, that would just be pure Anarchy. There's a reason why there's ""Capitalism"" at the end of ""Aanrcho-Capitalism"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494235056 124632493,124647287,2017-05-08 09:18:18,,,Anonymous,7fddfac68e61c5b3ec2b717c561fed2f9b8eed37dd30ae3db356bd8dcb9e59ad.jpg,N6r2cUgpPw5fMpPILCYozA==,US,,1494235098 124632493,124647298,2017-05-08 09:18:24,">>124644624 >>124644656 >>124644772 >>124645091 >>124645116 >>124645167 >>124645255 >>124645320 >>124645342 >>124647090 all just further proof that leftists can't meme.",,Anonymous,1462863580225.png,6RoAt5TgoX4FZghqRNxvNA==,US,,1494235104 124632493,124647307,2017-05-08 09:18:27,">>124647050 It's just one guy sperging out. but yes I did. >>124647090 You have to go back.",,Anonymous,1493836665906.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,US,,1494235107 124632493,124647376,2017-05-08 09:19:12,">>124647298 >>124647307 This is a nazbol thread now, faggots.",,Anonymous,27e756ca8250d9dd5a40cd559c093e19b069232a666606908979e6f15b0c3e57.jpg,W0MrGANfZ+HHRqJ6hzCHug==,US,,1494235152 124632493,124647386,2017-05-08 09:19:16,">>124647174 >all these ""Contracts"" is just a Government That's the difference you brainlet.",,^~,1491704392542.jpg,0f2yk22s7MxfnMN9oDL/WA==,PT,,1494235156 124632493,124647421,2017-05-08 09:19:39,,,Anonymous,612faf30c693a150b0c0eaa772d6cf296263ac436b345650077d1357bb233977.png,LulI/y4qH2WJ3LHCXrXIRQ==,US,,1494235179 124632493,124647431,2017-05-08 09:19:44,">>124647007 This an entirely different argument This guy wants to espouse support for ancap, but what he is describing is not ancap. What you are describing is Laissez-faire capitalism",,Anonymous,1489671145430.jpg,DtMT7xNgrEjCl5jb0Ls53w==,AU,,1494235184 124632493,124647451,2017-05-08 09:20:00,,,Anonymous,3ea4ed791a25f4fb34e20bf9d4e1d0def723dba232b06e8b458abf455c15e28f.jpg,lDRm9qFqAoHHNqGULJWkmg==,US,,1494235200 124632493,124647490,2017-05-08 09:20:25,,,Anonymous,1493616684613.jpg,ZICYXD8zqYaagrA8rAI4gg==,US,,1494235225 124632493,124647496,2017-05-08 09:20:29,">>124647376 please stop, this is beyond cringe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494235229 124632493,124647504,2017-05-08 09:20:34,">>124647386 >no longer ancap Boy it's like you faggots can't read",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494235234 124632493,124647524,2017-05-08 09:20:46,">>124646365 >And it could happen from what you told me, I mean, you surely don't deny the existance of pedophiles, so what would stop it? Self-preservation? >As much as i hate pedophiles, I'm not gonna storm a town of (probably)armed degenerates. that you'r even suggesting this just shows how rigiculous your model is. Are you claiming that nobody is going to offer himself to storm over a city of child rapists in exchange for payment/reaping the spoils from those lands? This is ignorant. >Fine, but there are many people that would do this, not just pedophiles. Take muslims for example.You can't just do away with laws and judges because people will solve it themselves. I don't plan to do away with laws, I plan on decentralizing law, which leads to optimization. >Not a proper comparison, it's not unreasonable to think the military would be underfunded if it was just based on charity and not taxation. Would you go live in a place where no security is provided? Anarcho Capitalism leads to private cities, most landlords will offer you security by purchasing property on their city. >Oh, they can gather all they want So China and Russia would declare war on the whole world? Incentives? Or just fiction? >that they wouldn't have an actual military, just a bunch of security firms for civil defense. I addressed it in every post, they would have security according to their needs. If a Russia/China invasion is a real threat, then a smart businessman will offer people a way to solve this threat. >>124646458 Which is a voluntary exposure to limitations in order to reach a prosperity, with third party arbitration to make sure both parties are protected. Totally compatible with anarcho capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494235246 124632493,124647536,2017-05-08 09:20:53,">>124647496 Nope.",,Anonymous,1493606933940.jpg,wp2PoCMmeV2srK+igUpHAA==,US,,1494235253 124632493,124647596,2017-05-08 09:21:29,,,Anonymous,6355cc7d54e5b634cb84d673f48b0c34463446bfd1f60acb9e8183a5a9260112.png,zfs1qtTg/NEss0xYusH+fA==,US,,1494235289 124632493,124647618,2017-05-08 09:21:42,">>124647376 your memes a shit SHIT",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494235302 124632493,124647645,2017-05-08 09:22:06,,,Anonymous,goebbels.jpg,p2yN2/aqAuS3ZEhvFyGBHA==,US,,1494235326 124632493,124647657,2017-05-08 09:22:16,">>124647431 >no state >people buy govt like services that IS ancap",,^~,,,PT,,1494235336 124632493,124647668,2017-05-08 09:22:24,">>124647431 A state that operates by the rule of force without content or voluntary agreement can still be Laissez-faire capitalist, as it is still a state. AnCap rejects that state altogether, retaining what made it prosper (Laissez-faire capitalist) while reducing the bureaucratic inefficiency of any government system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494235344 124632493,124647688,2017-05-08 09:22:35,">>124647618 Stay mad fag.",,Anonymous,1493847846880.jpg,chqtG2A67hSkN1XO1025qQ==,US,,1494235355 124632493,124647706,2017-05-08 09:22:48,">>124647596 do you really resave the jpegs over and over or is there some meme filter that helps fuck up the image?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494235368 124632493,124647732,2017-05-08 09:23:02,,,Anonymous,dugin liberalism.jpg,ixb5mejhis1O4SSKe9AvOA==,US,,1494235382 124632493,124647796,2017-05-08 09:23:50,">>124647706 Some are OC, some aren't. I'm not sure how to fuck up the image. The ones I make aren't as fucked up.",,Anonymous,1493850526887.jpg,cGZKI2CYn0xY3ut4I7yXDQ==,US,,1494235430 124632493,124647829,2017-05-08 09:24:09,">>124647688 I know you nazbols fags love niggers but 80's jokes are shit >>124647732 >...and whites too",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494235449 124632493,124647833,2017-05-08 09:24:11,,,Anonymous,1493849505008.png,JQkPQQxvBGRI5BVLHCR21Q==,US,,1494235451 124632493,124647838,2017-05-08 09:24:14,NEW THREAD NEEDED,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494235454 124632493,124647857,2017-05-08 09:24:25,">>124647706 presumably they just ramp up the JPEG compression rate using an editing software upon saving.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494235465 124632493,124647887,2017-05-08 09:24:49,">>124647829 Stay mad loser frog.",,Anonymous,8574b551953897efad4f5190d3124bdf2409c218cc01c460d5708f5ad3429ae7.png,iA8Ur4cGw3s2fkPl2fBWYA==,US,,1494235489 124632493,124647893,2017-05-08 09:24:52,">>124647838 will do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494235492 124632493,124647967,2017-05-08 09:25:43,">>124647838 >>124647893 You can't escape the nazbol gang.",,Anonymous,1493849832214.png,7tIkn4yhax8aZ6QsCUl9Gg==,US,,1494235543 124632493,124647989,2017-05-08 09:25:57,">>124647893 make it hans adam ii edition lol and use the site in the OP to put the reading and video list please",,^~,,,PT,,1494235557 124632493,124647996,2017-05-08 09:26:04,">>124647796 >racism is bad m'kay >>124647887 there are more chances that niggers conquer space that nazbol becomes a serious ideology everybody hates you",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494235564 124632493,124647997,2017-05-08 09:26:04,">>124647524 'Anarcho-capitalism (also known as “libertarian anarchy” or “market anarchism” or “free market anarchism”) is a libertarian and individualist anarchist political philosophy that advocates the elimination of the state in favor of individual sovereignty in a free market.' Tell me where a Government can exist in this? >>124647657 You don't seem to understand that a Government IS a state >>124647668 That fails because there are no restrictions on what you can do and somebody will eventually become the new state, please re read what I originally said as I really don't want to repeat myself",,Anonymous,1491056700192.jpg,mx11ISx9h6fUHyMl1br7xw==,AU,,1494235564 124647999,124647999,2017-05-08 09:26:07,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Classic2.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1494235567 124647999,124648089,2017-05-08 09:27:04,The Grand-Wizard,,Anonymous,The_Hoppean.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,US,,1494235624 124647999,124648097,2017-05-08 09:27:06,"first for ""FUCK COMMIES""",,^~,,,PT,,1494235626 124647999,124648192,2017-05-08 09:28:13,The Paladin,,Anonymous,The_General.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1494235693 124647999,124648200,2017-05-08 09:28:15,">>124647997 >Tell me where a Government can exist in this? I don't need a state to establish that you cannot smoke in my house. >>124647999 Kek is with us",,Anonymous,1467399434338.png,7uZVLVAoT1CnIWp59UXlmQ==,MT,,1494235695 124647999,124648280,2017-05-08 09:29:15,">>124647999 finally a clean thread",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494235755 124647999,124648292,2017-05-08 09:29:21,Why can't I post the reading list? I always get a connection error.,,^~,,,PT,,1494235761 124647999,124648296,2017-05-08 09:29:27,*blocks ur tax returns*,,Anonymous,hqdefault (4).jpg,2VT1EToRPDsDPHgAqkJetA==,AU,,1494235767 124647999,124648326,2017-05-08 09:29:46,">That fails because there are no restrictions on what you can do and somebody will eventually become the new state, please re read what I originally said as I really don't want to repeat myself The restriction is that if other covenants see that one of them is trying to form a state, then they would all join to crush it as that would then be just a state growing, not a fellow covenant. By principle these are still AnCap societies, so naturally it would follow that they seek to keep it that way by not allowing the formation of a state to success among them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494235786 124647999,124648590,2017-05-08 09:32:34,">>124648200 That guy is a classic example of not understanding free association in a right-anarchist society. They always get completely hung up on specific issues and never consider what voluntary collectivisation means. Have your government, just don't enforce it on people who don't want it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494235954 124647999,124648847,2017-05-08 09:35:26,">>124648292 Fucks i dunno man ever happens to me.",,Anonymous,The_Revolutionary.png,V1/wvwPgIK9i7A5zk9Wldg==,US,,1494236126 124647999,124648947,2017-05-08 09:36:34,"How to achieve a libertarian society: 1. Get a young traditional wife > 2. Get a fine job > 3. Make tons of babies > 4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other) > 5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing > 6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants > 7. Privatly educate your kids. Send them to good, elite, schools where they can fulfill their quest for knowledge and make great contacts. > 8. Vote, support parties/think tanks/people that want to reduce govt and degeneracy. Godspeed.",,^~,value-and-tradition.jpg,8p0WYXtekHiPC39W3firjw==,PT,,1494236194 124647999,124648988,2017-05-08 09:37:10,">>124648590 Most people fail to come up with solutions to common problems because they are meant to be followers, not leaders. And the moment you explain how humans create solutions to these problems, they claim it's not anarcho capitalism because you just blew the fuck out of every prejudice they had against it. Many of these, however, will come back in a few weeks with a more open mind. It's just hard to see your prejudices crumble and accept it right away.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494236230 124647999,124649023,2017-05-08 09:37:29,">>124648590 Among the biggest misconceptions of both Anarchy and Capitalism, is that they falsely assume in Anarchy there cannot be eventual join agreement made among members to organize a governing body that is not interested in forcing people into it. Likewise, it is also falsely assumed that in Capitalism, there MUST be a state to regulate it. Given that AnCap is actually a coherent mix of seemingly contradictory perspectives, it's not surprising at all that people mistake it as one or the other as an absolute and cannot grasp the beauty of both working in tandem.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494236249 124647999,124649823,2017-05-08 09:45:54,">>124648988 >they are meant to be followers, not leaders. This is probably the crux of any and all of our opposition. Tell a sheep that they can be the shepherd of their own lives, and their feeble sheep brain implodes internally. The responsibility is too much for them to bear, and thus they continue to gravitate towards not means of how they can shepherd themselves in the most efficient manner, but to which other shepherd rapes them the most gently to submit to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494236754 124647999,124649848,2017-05-08 09:46:14,">>124647524 >Are you claiming that nobody is going to offer himself to storm over a city of child rapists in exchange for payment/reaping Ah, so mercenaries, surely nothing can go wrong with that. Not like they could turn to extort cities and abolish the libertarian system, or turn the country into a war-torn hell-hole. >I plan on decentralizing law, which leads to optimization. If every community has their own law it's the same as there being no law. >Would you go live in a place where no security is provided? Anarcho Capitalism leads to private cities, most landlords will offer you security by purchasing property on their city. This is a replacement for a police force, not an army. Not to mention, if someone commints a crime and leaves town, it would be hard to punism him without a unified code of laws or police force. >So China and Russia would declare war on the whole world? No, just on some countries that they see as weak (that would be all libertarian countries), or strategic. Let's be real, if say the baltic states were attacked by russia, it's doubtfull thet wastern europe would intervene in an all out war. And no one intervened when Ukraine was attacked. >If a Russia/China invasion is a real threat, then a smart businessman will offer people a way to solve this threat. ""a smart businessman"" will defeat a nuclear military superpower that can conscript and tax it's citizens. >this is what libertarians belive. yup, this must be the only system more ridiculous than communism.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494236774 124647999,124649991,2017-05-08 09:47:50,">>124648988 I think we planted a few seeds. I definitely should've avoided getting hung up on specifics because it just leads to replying to huge lists of hypothetical scenarios that have nothing to do with the fundamental concept of aggression vs cooperation. Nevertheless he started googling the definition of anarcho-capitalism (last post he made before thred ded) >>124649023 Exactly, which is why I tell communists that they can use their mode of production in a free society as long as they don't violently impose it. As you said, it seems contradictory to be a full capitalist at the same time as telling leftists that they can implement communism. It's actually a great argument to pursue because if the socialist mode of production is actually superior then it would easily outcompete the capitalist mode. I've been using it on /leftypol/",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494236870 124647999,124650109,2017-05-08 09:48:52,"Is this basically Jews: the thread? You realize Jews support deregulated markets and open markets=globalization We need the state to nationalize industry in order to further the interests of our culture and people. It worked for Mussolini and Hitler, why wouldn't it work today?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494236932 124647999,124650226,2017-05-08 09:50:07,">>124650109 >It worked for Mussolini and Hitler Anon, I...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494237007 124647999,124650370,2017-05-08 09:51:19,">>124650109 2 things 1: The jew cannot jew on a large scale unless he has the backing of a government, because his primary tools are taxation and regulations 2: Jewery on a small scale is still possible, ie misleading a potential buyer, but if you're smart about your business decisions then you won't get jewed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494237079 124647999,124650398,2017-05-08 09:51:34,">>124650109 If the Jews want free markets, why have we been consistently and continuously losing economic freedom?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494237094 124647999,124650419,2017-05-08 09:51:51,">>124648988 So can I put thumb nukes on my dirt (((road))) to prevent NAP violating niggers from driving on it?",,Anonymous,boogie.gif,eImP+rEtjtY6mGD9TQkZ+g==,US,,1494237111 124647999,124650575,2017-05-08 09:53:21,">>124650419 sounds right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494237201 124647999,124650680,2017-05-08 09:54:25,">>124650419 If the nuke is small enough to not damage the property of others, then go ahead. Good luck driving over it without activating them though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494237265 124647999,124650693,2017-05-08 09:54:31,">>124650419 no, roads violate the NAP",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494237271 124647999,124650821,2017-05-08 09:55:43,">>124648296 >22 >muh extra powder >totally worse that 9mm >please clap",,Anonymous,9mm.png,DBE/y0zI9miVfq0q0I4tGA==,US,,1494237343 124647999,124650871,2017-05-08 09:56:11,">>124650109 >Is this basically Jews: the thread? You realize Jews support deregulated markets and open markets=globalization Not necessarily my friend, while global trade may help, you still have the absolute freedom to decline trade with anyone you might not like, including and especially degenerates. It is not a forced deregulated and open market by any means, it is free as in freedom to both close and open it, not just recklessly open for people to plunder. >We need the state to nationalize industry in order to further the interests of our culture and people. I admire your healthy concern for the people, and you can still absolutely ""nationalize"" as much of your own property as you like to the interests of whoever and whatever you like. You are just given the freedom to serve what you believe in, instead of being forced to submit to other's rule. You can save the people or people you care about anon, and you alone -- other people's business have no influence on you within your private property, your realm.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494237371 124647999,124650910,2017-05-08 09:56:34,">>124650109 >The Jewish Question - by Life, love, & Anarchy (an anarcho capitalist) https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html >Right-libertarianism accused of antisemitism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o&t=3s >(((Noam Chomsky's))) kike hitpeice against right-libertarianism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB3MkTXPJ8Q&t=194s look into the jewish subversion, and subjugation of right-libertarianism and only then make up your mind.",,Anonymous,Tucker.png,G3ntbYA6wn77pdLZEi56hw==,US,,1494237394 124647999,124651079,2017-05-08 09:58:17,">>124650910 >>124650109 shit i mixed up my links >The Jewish Question - by Life, love, & Anarchy (an anarcho capitalist) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o&t=3s >Right-libertarianism accused of antisemitism https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html >(((Noam Chomsky's))) kike hitpeice against right-libertarianism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB3MkTXPJ8Q&t=194s look into the jewish subversion, and subjugation of right-libertarianism and only then make up your mind.",,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,US,,1494237497 124647999,124651081,2017-05-08 09:58:16,">>124650419 m8 what did joot do to your image?",,Anonymous,file.png,EWAGXkw89J+pr0eOfjQwRw==,GB,,1494237496 124647999,124651239,2017-05-08 09:59:52,">>124649991 >I tell communists that they can use their mode of production in a free society as long as they don't violently impose it haha yeah, this gives them a nice brainfuck. AnCap is by far the most versatile political philosophy ever conceived of, and yet the amount of misunderstanding it incurs prohibits people from seeing how it can benefit literally anything they want it to as long as it doesn't trespass or become too violent. It's rather tragic, really.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494237592 124647999,124651261,2017-05-08 10:00:09,">>124651081 >mfw im finally in a screencap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494237609 124647999,124651413,2017-05-08 10:01:39,"never forget. also 146 /lrg/ threads today.",,Anonymous,Untitled-1.png,5veZO4dkaYvo1XZb31sSsQ==,US,,1494237699 124647999,124651856,2017-05-08 10:06:13,">>124651079 By the way folks, do watch ""Right-Libertarianism: The Inception (Documentary)"" it's propaganda against us, but they do let some redpills slip through.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494237973 124647999,124651870,2017-05-08 10:06:19,">>124651413 Absolutely lost it when I first read that list top, top tier OC",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494237979 124647999,124651909,2017-05-08 10:06:42,">>124651413 kek",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494238002 124647999,124652138,2017-05-08 10:09:02,">>124651856 let me guess >all CEOs are against the people and my cherry picked libertarians are all Jewish,ha checkmate loltards",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494238142 124647999,124652362,2017-05-08 10:11:22,">>124649848 >Ah, so mercenaries The child rapists refuse to solve conflicts in a peaceful manner, they refused to recognize other people's rights, this is not about mercenaries, it's about retribution. The moment you decide to be an enemy of society through your actions you must assume the consequences. >If every community has their own law it's the same as there being no law. Law insurances that don't offer satisfactory conflict resolution with most people are not valuable. This is like saying that if every country has their own law then there's no law. >This is a replacement for a police force, not an army. It's a defensive army. Why should I pay for any private firm to invade other countries? All I care about is my security. >if someone commints a crime and leaves town, it would be hard to punism him without a unified code of laws or police force. Other communities will collaborate in self interest because, you know, nobody wants to live among criminals. >""a smart businessman"" will defeat a nuclear military superpower that can conscript and tax it's citizens. If Vietnam could defend their sovereignty against the biggest army in the world, I'm sure a rich capitalist country would be alright. Certainly the sustainability of attacking peaceful countries for no reason will not hold any weight on them... But keep bringing more catastrophic hypothesis man.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494238282 124647999,124652387,2017-05-08 10:11:40,">>124652138 sorta, more like >ebil rich people, poor people dumb. want more power for ebil rich people >libertarians are nadsis bad goys, they want to shoah us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494238300 124647999,124652446,2017-05-08 10:12:20,">>124651081 I bleached akb with bill murray seed",,Anonymous,ecb16e2ee39b7a2d2673e2fef1daac19.jpg,O11bWIHYECrxNUJ9v462bw==,US,,1494238340 124647999,124652863,2017-05-08 10:16:45,">>124651413 made me lmao my ass off tbf",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494238605 124647999,124653540,2017-05-08 10:23:36,"The maltese anon here is based. Always makes extensive, well written, replies with tons of patience. Godspeed based maltabrah",,^~,,,PT,,1494239016 124647999,124654120,2017-05-08 10:29:24,">>124652362 > The moment you decide to be an enemy of society through your actions you must assume the consequences. i have a feeling you'r missing my point. I'm not saying they shouldn't be exterminated, but using mercenary forces to deal with ""bad people instead of a state police or military is a bitof a problem. As I said before, these mercenaries (who have enough power to take out a settelment) could also be used for immoral jobs, or to seize power in the country (or a part of it), abolishing the libertarian system and creating conflict. This doesn't haoppen with state sponsored police or military. > Law insurances that don't offer satisfactory conflict resolution with most people are not valuable. Ok, but i'm pretty sure your system will offer even less satisfactory conflic resolution, since it relies on private mercenaries for example. >This is like saying that if every country has their own law then there's no law. Well, international law isn't very effective is it? Lots of bad stuff goin on in africa, Ukarine and the middle east for example, and there's basically no intervention. >It's a defensive army. Why should I pay for any private firm to invade other countries? All I care about is my security. you shouldn't pay for an offensive army, but >most landlords will offer you security by purchasing property on their city. what you described is really not an army. unless you the landlord offers armored divisions and an airforce, wich coordinates with other such armies through a central command >Other communities will collaborate in self interest because, you know, nobody wants to live among criminals. Unless some of those comunities have different moral systems (like say muslims or jews who will cover for their own). And the communities that really do want to collaborate, will have a harder time since they are different organisations. Collaboration betwen police forces from different countries is harder even today. 1/2",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494239364 124647999,124654333,2017-05-08 10:31:44,">>124653540 Thanks, lots of people here with a strong grasp on market incentives and private property consequences thankfully so it's easy to be patient when you don't have to deal with everything yourself, some other days I'm more inspired tho, sick at home today.",,Anonymous,1484430540394.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,MT,,1494239504 124647999,124654707,2017-05-08 10:35:49,">>124652362 >If Vietnam could defend their sovereignty against the biggest army in the world, I'm sure a rich capitalist country would be alright. Vietnam was a comunist country tough, kinda the opposite of what you propose. Plus they had the backing of China, geography was in their advantage and it did take a tool on them. you'r basically saying ""If the US couldn't beat Vietnam, there's no reason to worry about national defense"" ,wich is uneducated. >Certainly the sustainability of attacking peaceful countries for no reason will not hold any weight on them You don't know your history my man. Ever heard of empires? Besides, it's never no reason, resources, strategic interest, national pride have all been reasons for war in the past. >But keep bringing more catastrophic hypothesis man. I'm criticizing you views, what do you expect, of course i'l attack your weak points. Nothing that I braught up is unreasonable. China is a resource hungry country and could attack a weak US. Turkey would attack a weak and divided Europe, especially with Erdogan in charge. Russia would do the same for strategic and economic reasons.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494239749 124647999,124654878,2017-05-08 10:37:42,">>124647999 Fake and gay",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494239862 124647999,124655204,2017-05-08 10:41:04,">>124651856 (((Noam Chomsky))) is a senile bastard. I'd like to see Hoppe destroy him",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494240064 124647999,124655512,2017-05-08 10:44:08,">>124654120 >these mercenaries (who have enough power to take out a settelment) could also be used for immoral jobs, or to seize power in the country I have the same concerns about government. At least I know that mercenaries wouldn't have ""legitimacy"" to step over other people's freedom. Plenty of immorality from governments to talk about. >Ok, but i'm pretty sure your system will offer even less satisfactory conflic resolution, since it relies on private mercenaries for example. What is the difference between a mercenary and a policeman then? What makes police inherently good? You're just arguing from a status quo perspective. Easy to claim everything would be a disaster but you need to provide good arguments as to why, based on human incentives and compare those incentives to the current ones. >Well, international law isn't very effective is it? Depends the amount of interaction between countries. If there are two communities that want to have very close relationships, free movement, etc, it is expected that they will have ways to solve conflicts for these interactions. The easiest way is to subject yourself to third party arbitration, choosing someone fair and making sure the decision is binding. Refusal to solve conflicts is a declaration of war. >what you described is really not an army. unless you the landlord offers armored divisions and an airforce You don't need an airforce to defend your territory, you need it to invade others. I don't want to pay for anyone to invade others, doesn't mean I don't want to pay for me to be able to live without being scared for my life. >Unless some of those comunities have different moral systems (like say muslims or jews who will cover for their own) A decision that will lead to prosperous communities banning muslims or jews from entering their property. If some people are untouchable, they can't be interacted with.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494240248 124647999,124655758,2017-05-08 10:46:28,"To what extent do you agree with physical removal? What warrants retaliation? Do you believe only in peaceful secession or full retaliation against established governments? Would you consider /lrg/'s hyper-Hoppean brand of anarchism to be different enough from mainstream anarcho-capitalism to warrant a different name?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494240388 124647999,124655966,2017-05-08 10:48:38,">>124647999 Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years, so in order to fill this void in my being I need to exert my internal problems onto other human beings by participating in slavery called ""government"". I actually care about people so much I think they should be required by gun point to help fund roads! So they can get to work of course... I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, and drugs. Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care of them anyway. I've never seen a pothole in my life. Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,aclEqmQcWEnFmg9gjgBH8Q==,US,,1494240518 124647999,124656119,2017-05-08 10:50:08,,,Anonymous,1493839398072.jpg,tAR/FFscxRVKvbGpvgFBzA==,US,,1494240608 124647999,124656172,2017-05-08 10:50:39,">>124655966 I've noticed a lot of my leftist friends typically have family issues. Is there any literature on this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494240639 124647999,124656177,2017-05-08 10:50:42,,,Anonymous,1493833116797.png,b9XDUnd9jPI0LHTZ339voA==,US,,1494240642 124647999,124656191,2017-05-08 10:50:48,">>124654878 Nob am argumend :DDDDD",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494240648 124647999,124656200,2017-05-08 10:50:53,">>124655758 To the degree of voluntary exposure to physical removal. A covenant should not be able to say: ""you became a communist and this is a libertarian covenant"" just like that, and kick them out. Covenants must have provisions in their contracts. I would not be successful in my job if I wasn't able to define contracts in such a way that guarantees my clients won't be able to fuck me over, covenants should be the same, if they want to maintain a libertarian purity then they must force physical removal of democrats and communists contractually, and I, as a libertarian, would search for a place where these provisions I consider necessary for a sustainable libertarian order are covered.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494240653 124647999,124656357,2017-05-08 10:52:32,">>124656172 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CTfHKXWYAM",,Anonymous,muhgubment.png,UAWP0XXyKRCx36n/vhxb0g==,US,,1494240752 124647999,124656400,2017-05-08 10:52:58,"Whats libertarian fascism? Sounds oxymoronic to me and yet, it tingles my tongue when I say it out loud.",,Anonymous,libertarian_fascism.jpg,gVIku5kfPfOgrxUABrhlEw==,US,,1494240778 124647999,124656526,2017-05-08 10:54:14,">>124656400 I assume a private city within a libertarian frame where fascism order is enforced via voluntary contracts?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494240854 124647999,124656567,2017-05-08 10:54:36,">>124656400 >be you >want to join a fascist community >go to their website >""looks cool"" >apply with your work experience and what you can bring to the community >you sign a contract to obey its laws >travel their and join the community >leave whenever your contract is over or whenever you like if not defined pretty much it.",,Anonymous,1494129147582.jpg,0cSXzcRSknskMSPb2O8a7g==,US,,1494240876 124647999,124656612,2017-05-08 10:55:03,">>124656400 Doesn't exist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494240903 124647999,124656623,2017-05-08 10:55:09,">>124656357 I'll give it a watch >>124656400 There was a /fit/ screecap posted about this in another thread on /pol/ yesterday iirc. Maybe relevant, check the archives.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494240909 124647999,124656642,2017-05-08 10:55:23,Why are you a Libertarian and not a Conservative?,,Anonymous,confused.png,kt5knyKy+BliP0z9zrJlUQ==,IE,,1494240923 124647999,124656655,2017-05-08 10:55:30,,,Anonymous,slavery.jpg,p5M6av1cG2CPFW3QmZAAtw==,US,,1494240930 124647999,124656695,2017-05-08 10:55:59,">>124656400 Libertarian fascism is the way to go man.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,US,,1494240959 124647999,124656713,2017-05-08 10:56:06,">>124656642 But I am both",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494240966 124647999,124656755,2017-05-08 10:56:29,">>124656400 I think libertarian fascism could mean voluntary fascism. Namely, a libertarian fascist society must be founded on the consent of all the members of a community",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494240989 124647999,124656767,2017-05-08 10:56:36,">>124656526 ""voluntary"" what if degenerates arnt compliant? wouldnt that violate the libertarian aspect?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494240996 124647999,124656948,2017-05-08 10:58:18,">>124656767 what degenerates? the people in the community couldn't have gotten their without approval in which case degenerate individuals deemed by the community would've been denied entry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494241098 124647999,124656969,2017-05-08 10:58:33,">>124656400 it's libertarian until you sign between the dotted lines and MUST submit to degenerate-free covenant laws or else. Probably aggressive economical policies regarding neighboring property. basically private fascism. I would imagine no degenerates would steer clear of your property there, and that's a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494241113 124647999,124657014,2017-05-08 10:59:13,">>124656948 aaaahh",,Anonymous,tmyk.jpg,iWxtmgMdx76cqeZGORWo6g==,US,,1494241153 124647999,124657051,2017-05-08 10:59:33,">>124650109 >It worked for Hitler Pls end this meme. 1) He robbed people of their money by forcing to by state insurance and then said ""lol fuck you I'll spend your money on our already super inflated military, go starve for all I care"" 2) Because of government intervention there were constant shortages and deficit of basic goods. 3) Workers were literally slaves(they had special ""labour books"" that were their only ID and when you were appointed to work somewhere by government your ID was taken away by the government and you couldn't move/change place of work without that ID) 4) They forbid people to stop working in agriculture. Not only if you were a farmer Nazi stole 90% of your work just because ""muh nation needs it, give it or we will take it with force"", they also made agriculture workers slaves chained to their farms. It became so absurd that farmers forbid their kids to work on the fields so they won't become agriculture slaves. Also it resulted in deficit of food and people weren't eating enough. 5) Price/rent/production control. This only means SHORTAGES OF EVERYTHING. 6) ""Dude fuck banks lmao, they are jewish"" said the autistic retard and crashed the economy. Because of that people had to live nigger ghetto-tier lives. etc, etc, etc Nazis should go off the helicopter right after commies.",,Anonymous,1490872034039.jpg,U4HzN8i+5xlnxx/HcLVBtA==,US,,1494241173 124647999,124657109,2017-05-08 11:00:02,">>124655512 >At least I know that mercenaries wouldn't have ""legitimacy"" to step over other people's freedom. Who cares about legitimacy at this point, they have the power to do it and nothing to stop them. >Plenty of immorality from governments to talk about. Sure is, but nothing on this scale, I don't hear of any army extorting cities ar having civil wars betwen different generals. > What makes police inherently good? Because they follow a code of laws and are paind by the citizens, rather than working purely for financial gain. There are some corrupt cops, but all mercenaries are basically corrupt cops, since their whole goal is to make money. > If there are two communities that want to have very close relationships, free movement, etc, it is expected that they will have ways to solve conflicts for these interactions. Wow, almost like these agreements betwen communities are laws that they follow. >The easiest way is to subject yourself to third party arbitration, choosing someone fair and making sure the decision is binding. How is that easy. How would you find a third party that is totally impartial, fair and uncorruptible. >Refusal to solve conflicts is a declaration of war. Suers ounds like a nice society, having outright wars when you can't come to an agreement on something, like who is actually an impartial arbitrator. >You don't need an airforce to defend your territory, you need it to invade others. You'r delusional kid. A militia can't stop a military invasion. How are you going to take down armored divisions and stop enemy bombers? >banning muslims or jews from entering their property How would they know if someone is a muslim or jew? Unlike christians, they are allowed to lie about their fate. And that was just one example, you could just have communities of bastards like the mafia, that cover for each others crimes.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494241202 124647999,124657110,2017-05-08 11:00:02,">>124654333 >Thanks, lots of people here with a strong grasp on market incentives and private property consequences ""Market incentives"" is something you learn aged 16 in economics class. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. Property rights are a mental construct on a level equal with human rights. Don't try and pretend that your reductionist tripe is somehow intellectual or hard to understand. I went down the AnCap rabbit hole as an edgy 17 year old.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241202 124647999,124657114,2017-05-08 11:00:05,>>124657014,,Anonymous,1493219993192.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,US,,1494241205 124647999,124657140,2017-05-08 11:00:22,">>124656969 *I would imagine degenerates would steer* clear of your property there, and that's a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494241222 124647999,124657157,2017-05-08 11:00:33,">>124656767 What if I go to the cinema and decide to smoke a blunt and talk on the phone? I will be kicked, because in the ticket there's a right of admission contractual obligation, one that I accept by purchasing the ticket. In the case of the fascist society, in order to sustain their values they must contractually have provisions against people who would destroy their community.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494241233 124647999,124657174,2017-05-08 11:00:42,">>124656200 I'm basically the same, I'm just not sure what to say to those who believe in the physical removal of all communists at all times. I asked one of these people if they believe in deporting/excommunicating/kidnapping people who read Marx, he said yes and tried to defend it. Obviously he was saying that they are inherent violators of the NAP and are therefore implicitly agreeing that violence is permissible and so on",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494241242 124647999,124657224,2017-05-08 11:01:19,">>124656755 Then you can just have libertarian anything so the word becomes meaningless. What happens when you're born into a ""libertarian fascist"" society even though you didn't consent to it?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241279 124647999,124657312,2017-05-08 11:02:15,Daily reminder that anarchism is a dank meme.,,Anonymous,they actually believe in that.png,09o2cRjv6trTcV2/NazLOQ==,FR,,1494241335 124647999,124657337,2017-05-08 11:02:32,">>124656642 The snake memes mostly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494241352 124647999,124657356,2017-05-08 11:02:49,">>124649991 >specifics Yeah, if I have to explain why warlords wouldn't take over, or why people wouldn't be selling their kids to be drug mules one more time...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241369 124647999,124657446,2017-05-08 11:03:41,">>124656526 >>124656567 >>124656755 >>124656948 >>124656969 >>124657157 Alright boys thanks, back to work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494241421 124647999,124657481,2017-05-08 11:04:03,">>124656642 I am both friend",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241443 124647999,124657540,2017-05-08 11:04:47,">>124656767 It would violate the libertine aspect, not the libertarian aspect. The private city's immigration policy requires a contract. The contract informs you that you can only live there if you accept certain terms. Deportation could be one agreed upon consequence - quite extreme and not something I would particularly seek, but completely libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494241487 124647999,124657549,2017-05-08 11:04:50,">>124657110 >""Market incentives"" is something you learn aged 16 in economics class. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. You've got to be kidding. Literally nobody I know in real life has a strong grasp on market incentives, other than a couple of entrepreneurs. Everyone thinks poisoning rivers is good business practice. >Property rights are a mental construct on a level equal with human rights. Agreed. I don't defend I have a god-given right for property. I defend I should do all I can to convince society I do, and then I should do all I can to make sure those who disagree can't touch me. >Don't try and pretend that your reductionist tripe is somehow intellectual or hard to understand. I went down the AnCap rabbit hole as an edgy 17 year old. I doubt you even came close to understanding it. You're already strawmanning in 3 small paragraphs.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494241490 124647999,124657550,2017-05-08 11:04:50,">>124657224 This is a good point. It has confused me. The child never consented to be birthed into a certain community, what if he wants to live in a mud hut in the neighboring community? Or live in a sky scraper somewhere else? Well since we've already predefined the fact that communities must be VOLUNTARY, be can voluntarily leave his place of birth at any time and go see other places. This of course is completely removing the internet and photography and videos and all kinds of technology you could use to see other communities whilst your in your birth community, to see if you want to leave. I think on another note, this is how great traditions are born and heritage is conceived.",,Anonymous,1493461039813.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1494241490 124647999,124657584,2017-05-08 11:05:10,">>124657312 >what are adoption services About 20k to adopt a child currently. Huge market.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241510 124647999,124657602,2017-05-08 11:05:21,">>124656642 >asks right-wing libertarians why they aren't conservative",,Anonymous,^o).png,mrFlRBAcXxCNXkUgAZE9Tw==,US,,1494241521 124647999,124657654,2017-05-08 11:05:54,">>124651413 I was crying at that list was it was posted.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241554 124647999,124657773,2017-05-08 11:07:13,">>124657224 >What happens when you're born into a ""libertarian fascist"" society even though you didn't consent to it? children have shared ownership of themselves between their parents, gaining independence as they grow older and can think for themselves. This means that the child who is born in a libertarian fascist society would grow up libertarian fascist until they're old enough to decide ""nah, maybe this isn't for me"" and go somewhere else. The only around this would be that when they're an adult, the libertarian fascist contract is presented to them (probably a kind of coming-of-age ceremony) and they have to choose between staying or leaving. If their conviction to leave is strong enough, then they would probably be escorted outside the premise to fend on their own. Maybe they can work in the covenant there until they're older and have enough money to move out safely with more of their own resources (as it is permitted), but somewhere along those lines. I could of sworn was forced to read a shitty novel about this as a child. ""The Giver"" I think? The plot is literally as i've described, with a few key changes about family and someone's brother or some bullshit.",,Anonymous,81cJChEQjSL.jpg,7dTgydmmYov0/B93/h/Wew==,US,,1494241633 124647999,124657792,2017-05-08 11:07:25,">>124657356 Both of those things have been happening since the beginning of human history and 100% of that human history has involved a government.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494241645 124647999,124657839,2017-05-08 11:07:54,">>124657549 >Everyone thinks poisoning rivers is good business practice. Yup. Better to externalise your costs and spread them across society than add huge costs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241674 124647999,124657866,2017-05-08 11:08:12,"Threadly reminder that rights are endowed by nature and are fixed, immutable, and unchanging and govern behavioral consequences based on circumstantial synchronicity and action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E",,Anonymous,natural law.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,US,,1494241692 124647999,124657867,2017-05-08 11:08:13,">>124657654 >okay_it_is_gay_but_thats_okay",,Anonymous,1489170025878.jpg,y5WXHoFVXIox9wHAxgj7DA==,GB,,1494241693 124647999,124657895,2017-05-08 11:08:33,">>124657792 Then they are forced to hold their own view of government to the same standard as yours.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494241713 124647999,124657897,2017-05-08 11:08:36,">>124657224 There's an amish tradition in which the children are made to live in their community until the age of majority, at which point they are allowed to leave and experience other communities for a time. If they find that the outside world is preferable, they're allowed to leave, and if not, then they can just return home and continue being amish. I imagine this voluntary Fasco-Libertarian community would have the same tradition, but enforced by contracts.",,Anonymous,Bandeira_SP_ancap.jpg,wnozO0ryb+JGZgRylAO/pw==,US,,1494241716 124647999,124657905,2017-05-08 11:08:41,">>124657550 Kinda throws the whole voluntarism shit out the window doesn't it?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241721 124647999,124657922,2017-05-08 11:08:58,">>124657224 >What happens when you're born into a ""libertarian fascist"" society even though you didn't consent to it? That's what has me stumped. I suppose the ""fascist"" part of the libertarian society must cease to exist if the society is going to maintain libertarian ethical principles",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494241738 124647999,124657953,2017-05-08 11:09:15,Anatomy of the State is quality,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494241755 124647999,124658015,2017-05-08 11:09:56,">>124657905 No, because its much better to have that be a downfall than a masonic guild of psychopathic, satanic, dark occultists running the world through murder, blackmail, child rape and drugs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494241796 124647999,124658099,2017-05-08 11:10:47,">>124657773 >when they're an adult, the libertarian fascist contract is presented to them (probably a kind of coming-of-age ceremony) and they have to choose between staying or leaving. This would be a great free market solution, far more moral than the current system of governance because there'd be a tangible contract to make it real, and everyone would make the best decision.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241847 124647999,124658103,2017-05-08 11:10:50,">>124657866 Have you seen his occult 9/11 video? One of the most interesting and creepy conspiracies I've ever heard. Very convincing too.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494241850 124647999,124658139,2017-05-08 11:11:17,">>124648097 I saw your post on another thread saying >tfw no libertarian prince whos friends with hoppe and a relative of the portuguese monarchic family If I recall, he's friends with the Prince of Liechtenstein.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1494241877 124647999,124658192,2017-05-08 11:11:52,">>124657839 >Yup. Better to externalise your costs and spread them across society than add huge costs. Name one successful company that poisoned a river voluntarily and didn't suffer any kind of negative repercussion.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494241912 124647999,124658199,2017-05-08 11:11:56,">>124658103 Yep. Watch this too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc_wQI5pIvk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494241916 124647999,124658243,2017-05-08 11:12:22,">>124657897 >in their community until the age of majority, at which point they are allowed to leave and experience other communities for a time You can't do this as it stands right?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241942 124647999,124658258,2017-05-08 11:12:33,">>124657792 True but get fed up refuting the same stupid arguments over and over. Don't like to not reply though, you never know who may be reading and get influenced to dig deeper.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494241953 124647999,124658277,2017-05-08 11:12:38,">>124658103 Also take a look at Zachary K Hubbard and his work on Gematria. Listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wp-SZSBkjk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494241958 124647999,124658343,2017-05-08 11:13:25,">>124657897 This is basically my exact worldview. I almost completely agree with Amish people on politics and theology",,Anonymous,Amish.jpg,evSrUHtgf03URMGB2L3T5A==,AU,,1494242005 124647999,124658347,2017-05-08 11:13:29,">>124657792 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnxJj6M30wU",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494242009 124647999,124658491,2017-05-08 11:15:01,">>124658192 Only because the government gets butthurt about the poisoned rivers. If I owned the South American rainforest for example, I could profit the most by flattening it and turning it into farmland.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494242101 124647999,124658521,2017-05-08 11:15:19,"Finally a clean board. So what's the talks about?",,Anonymous,image.jpg,JllMKwW/PjYDAQ/VA7g/4Q==,NZ,,1494242119 124647999,124658573,2017-05-08 11:15:50,">>124657773 This is how I envision it too. Children are parents responsibility and they decide how and where to raise them, but the children grow older and, just like a contract with your landlord, if you don't like not being able to paint the walls in green, you should move or build your own house.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494242150 124647999,124658610,2017-05-08 11:16:07,">>124658343 When I first read about the mennonites/amish etc I thought they were both doomed and retarded. Now it seems heroic and kinda idyllic.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494242167 124647999,124658809,2017-05-08 11:17:50,">>124647999 I believe people can do whatever the fuck they want (do drugs, be faggots, be fat etc.) as long as they don't invade my own personal liberty I believe in the free market unconditionally But I'm still very patriotic, nationalistic, anti-immigration, and I believe in a strong central power everybody can rejoice in (under) What does that make me?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1494242270 124647999,124658821,2017-05-08 11:17:57,"Daily reminder that private cities, city-states and seasteading will be the ultimate solution to bring about a libertarian world: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb8nJauOq_8 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VVta3yKWbg >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fACwTJGUtog >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTcr--Z8460 How many of you would be willing to live in a place like this? I sure know I would! Mass migration of /lrg/ posters into one of these cities would be sweet. Shout out to Maltabro for all his good posts.",,Anonymous,lrg rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,PT,,1494242277 124647999,124658871,2017-05-08 11:18:30,">>124658491 With privatey property it would be enforced even further. Ramifications of poisoning a river, the externalities, are neverending, all of the sudden this poison reaches an aquifer and poisons someones cows in the other side of the country, the poison is tracked and you get sued until bankrupcy. Not so profitable after all.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494242310 124647999,124659018,2017-05-08 11:20:01,">>124658809 It makes you a paleo-libertarian, i.e. what /lrg/ is all about.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1494242401 124647999,124659043,2017-05-08 11:20:20,">>124658871 I would just pay for better lawyers, what is some shitty cow farmer gunna do against the CEO of the chemical corporation? Also I'd have PMCs to threaten him with, so I'd essentially have the monopoly on violence.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494242420 124647999,124659105,2017-05-08 11:20:59,">>124658610 >>124658347 Check out Amish - A Secret Life http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hvn34 I recommend it to everybody Not exactly some sort of anarchist documentary but they are basically the only people really practising non-aggression and social conservatism right now",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494242459 124647999,124659113,2017-05-08 11:21:05,">>124657584 Fucking government doesn't allow me to buy a little girl because I am a virgin neckbeard 30yo single male . Anarcho-capitalism is a conservative teenager. Soon you will grow up.",,Anonymous,really though.jpg,ROSfwbCiDv1l6XEK7mmbwQ==,FR,,1494242465 124647999,124659138,2017-05-08 11:21:23,">>124658809 That makes you a right-wing (debatably reactionary) libertarian. Benvenuto a /lrg/, paisano.",,Anonymous,deathcap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1494242483 124647999,124659202,2017-05-08 11:22:01,">>124658343 Not enough guns. My perfect community is the Amish but with guns and tablesaws,",,Anonymous,image.jpg,guTBGrz7sVpafYqESbO1xg==,NZ,,1494242521 124647999,124659357,2017-05-08 11:23:32,">>124659202 everyone would live like pic related in an ancap society, it would be really based",,Anonymous,based ancap.jpg,t5HCqgtL9+7dXgLWuFSpsA==,GB,,1494242612 124647999,124659489,2017-05-08 11:24:35,">>124659043 >I would just pay for better lawyers, what is some shitty cow farmer gunna do against the CEO of the chemical corporation? Better lawyers than yours will take upon the case and build a class action in exchange for a huge commission. Bounty-hunter is profitable as hell.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494242675 124647999,124659510,2017-05-08 11:24:47,">>124659357 >raw milk Fuck the goverment!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494242687 124647999,124659524,2017-05-08 11:24:55,">>124659357 dapperton is a massive faggot tho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494242695 124647999,124659530,2017-05-08 11:24:56,">>124659202 What are the saws for?",,Anonymous,folder.jpg,g3jFQUjT1U3dIPV0+w76Tg==,US,,1494242696 124647999,124659535,2017-05-08 11:24:58,">>124659113 No the government actively encourages and supports adoption as it is good for all parties involved. What is your argument here? Ban adoption?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494242698 124647999,124659663,2017-05-08 11:26:16,">>124659524 commie detected",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494242776 124647999,124659693,2017-05-08 11:26:31,">>124658821 Nah fuck living in the city, I'm happy living off potatoes and selling firewood and beef cows to pay for my overpriced Internet. I wouldn't mind living in bumfuck Libertariansville, USA. Sure wouldn't mind picking up some hand guns. If anyone knows of any towns like that and how the fuck to get into the states I wouldn't mind selling up and going over before I'm too old to shit.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1494242791 124647999,124659740,2017-05-08 11:26:58,">>124656642 We are both. Being conservative can also mean loving the state because ""that's what your great-grandparents"" did.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494242818 124647999,124659757,2017-05-08 11:27:11,">>124656695 >TFW we need an authoritarian regime to secure and enforce our libertarian values",,Anonymous,tAZ6HCC.png,DN1lTxoKzukqhN4BprJ3zA==,KR,,1494242831 124647999,124659789,2017-05-08 11:27:29,">>124659535 Have you tried to adopt a little girl as a single male of 30 years old? The government does not allow you, at least in France. I would be surprise (and probably I would move to) England if it accepts me to adopt a cute loli.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494242849 124647999,124659793,2017-05-08 11:27:32,"http://vocaroo.com/i/s136RLU40eUd Shitty hoppe metal. pls r8",,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1494242852 124647999,124659798,2017-05-08 11:27:33,">>124659530 Because fuck having a shop without a table saw.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1494242853 124647999,124659828,2017-05-08 11:27:59,">>124658809 Makes you /lrg/ aka private monarchy",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494242879 124647999,124659933,2017-05-08 11:29:09,">>124659693 >tfw family are deer farmers in NZ >tfw visited >tfw they just left their car in the 'local' town and gave the keys to a stranger >tfw the stranger just gave me the keys straight up >tfw its a half hour drive to their farm >tfw its an idyllic location >tfw the house wasn't even locked and they had been away for a month >tfw you don't live in rural nz",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494242949 124647999,124659981,2017-05-08 11:29:40,">>124659789 Don't worry mate, you'll be able to buy little girls after the next few election cycles",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494242980 124647999,124659985,2017-05-08 11:29:46,">>124659693 It's a nightmare to get in the states. Your best chances are to marry a girl from there and then apply for a green card and get citizenship. Ted Kennedy screwed all of us over when he signed that disgusting (((Hart-Celler Immigration Act))).",,Anonymous,america immigration.gif,hw0HB5uV8y68EcB1ZXw3Ww==,PT,,1494242986 124647999,124660000,2017-05-08 11:29:55,">>124659105 Thnx, will do",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494242995 124647999,124660023,2017-05-08 11:30:09,">>124659663 nah just not a fan of cringecore",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494243009 124647999,124660044,2017-05-08 11:30:21,">>124659828 Would you rather swear your loyalty to Burger King or Wendy's in exchange for fast food and protection from bandits?",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1494243021 124647999,124660063,2017-05-08 11:30:31,">>124658821 Some collectivists criticize us claiming people won't have perfect information, that getting 1000 insurances is unrealistic, and I agree with that. But the moment you conceive private cities all of the sudden everything seems viable, uninformed people will live under more restrictive rules and informed people will enjoy more free environments, win-win for everyone. Tbh Im way too anal about my view of the world, I doubt I could restrain myself from buying a patch of land in the middle of nowhere as soon as anarcho capitalism was adopted, to build my own city.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494243031 124647999,124660092,2017-05-08 11:30:45,">>124659793 10/10",,Anonymous,1492817298872.jpg,PfifO/bUagNvvCMI+EDj5Q==,CA,,1494243045 124647999,124660159,2017-05-08 11:31:28,">>124659981 Stop trying to cheer me up",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494243088 124647999,124660165,2017-05-08 11:31:37,">>124659793 heavy m8 >vis a vis >so to speak >and so on",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494243097 124647999,124660187,2017-05-08 11:31:53,">>124659757 Libertarian fascism is basically a fascist society with a libertarian (voluntary) framework, not the other way around. >>124659793 Shitty is right. The compression's pretty rough on the ears.",,Anonymous,Aspiring Heli Pilot.jpg,FQ2Co3lFRpNANqv/RqMw1w==,US,,1494243113 124647999,124660224,2017-05-08 11:32:12,">>124659789 If you can convince someone to let you adopt a little girl, why not, the inevitable will be on their hands for selling it to you in the first place",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494243132 124647999,124660238,2017-05-08 11:32:18,">>124659793 gold",,Anonymous,1493819340019.jpg,AZ+86G9Mg8yNFX2ohXvslw==,US,,1494243138 124647999,124660291,2017-05-08 11:32:55,">>124660063 >I doubt I could restrain myself from buying a patch of land in the middle of nowhere as soon as anarcho capitalism was adopted, to build my own city that would be based man it'd be like playing minecraft but IRL",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494243175 124647999,124660363,2017-05-08 11:33:46,">>124659018 >>124659138 But libertarians are individualists as opposed to nationalistic aren't they? I have liberal views on social issues I'm right wing economically But I'm patriotic and authoritarian, I believe the state has the right to use force W-what am I Perhaps I'm snek as it rises from purple to blue to face commies",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1494243226 124647999,124660376,2017-05-08 11:33:51,">>124659933 I imagine that most rural places in most countries, only difference is the UK is way overpopulated and filled with criminals. I really like it here and served in the army, I fucking love this country it's just that I can't get handguns without a bullshit endorsement, and I cant carry a gun in my car.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1494243231 124647999,124660383,2017-05-08 11:33:56,">>124660291 >it'd be like playing minecraft but IRL Pretty much sums up libertarian kiddies.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494243236 124647999,124660388,2017-05-08 11:34:01,">>124659793 OH MY American bro with the Hans-Hermann Hoppe youtube channel should upload that to Youtube.",,Anonymous,hoppe 80s.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,PT,,1494243241 124647999,124660437,2017-05-08 11:34:35,">>124659985 I was shagging a yank bird at uni and threw her over. Could have had a green card and be sitting on my backwoods kentucky porch now with a shotgun",,Anonymous,1490808477840.jpg,9gm5Roar/CaaQfd+8HUo6g==,GB,,1494243275 124647999,124660514,2017-05-08 11:35:18,">>124660376 >and I cant carry a gun in my car. I never knew that. Fairly certain we would drive around with a shotgun and hunting rifle but I could be wrong.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494243318 124647999,124660540,2017-05-08 11:35:33,">>124660363 So you're on the same sliding scale as the rest of us.",,Anonymous,Don't tread on me.jpg,D0q+mUOYZLaOWtdh+6icwg==,US,,1494243333 124647999,124660614,2017-05-08 11:36:12,">>124660363 Only the Ayn Rand LARPers are opposed to communities and families. Most of us here, as you can probably tell by now, do value family and tradition. A libertarian society for us is a voluntary arrangement where like-minded property owners form covenants to protect their ways of life from (((outside influence))). If you still think the state has to be authoritarian you're still not on our side completely. Have you read any of the books in the reading list btw?",,Anonymous,hoppe reading order.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,PT,,1494243372 124647999,124660677,2017-05-08 11:36:42,"sometimes I like to sit and wonder what technology we would have if we lived in an ancap society, we'd probably have inter-planetary travel by now because the government wouldnt be blocking the free market from happening",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494243402 124647999,124660777,2017-05-08 11:37:30,">>124660187 Isn't fascism authoritarian (i.e. central power)? So how can something be libertarian (i.e. no central power) and authoritarian?",,Anonymous,pinochetmaymay.jpg,I8ZYcUi8MxcqnaggXwsH/A==,FR,,1494243450 124647999,124660778,2017-05-08 11:37:32,drugs are good,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1494243452 124647999,124660779,2017-05-08 11:37:33,">>124660388 awesome will do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494243453 124647999,124660819,2017-05-08 11:38:02,">>124660383 oh please it would be much more like Dwarf Fortress if anything: peaceful, autistic prosperity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494243482 124647999,124660836,2017-05-08 11:38:10,">>124660514 Nah, I live up a forestry road and carry a gun in the car if I'm hunting in the pines, but as soon as I get of the metal FUCKING WEE WOO!!! a billion fucking pigs screaming up the main road. The only reason I want to go to the States is for their gun laws.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1494243490 124647999,124660946,2017-05-08 11:39:13,">>124660224 Yes, and for me it is immoral. I WANT a central power taking people that want to sell a little girl to a 30yo neckbeard thrown from a helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494243553 124647999,124660953,2017-05-08 11:39:18,">>124660819 Untill a non libertarian country comes over and kidnaps your women and takes your resources.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494243558 124647999,124661020,2017-05-08 11:39:52,">>124660291 >Building your own projects and offering services is like playing minecraft but IRL Okay",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494243592 124647999,124661026,2017-05-08 11:39:56,">>124660836 Lel, fair enough",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494243596 124647999,124661133,2017-05-08 11:40:54,">>124660677 I imagine blowjob machines and disposable guns. And the $5 meal at Burger King is now 2 meals.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1494243654 124647999,124661234,2017-05-08 11:41:57,">>124660777 (checked) The key is that everyone in such a community consents to the central power in question. If you don't, you leave (or get thrown out). I realize it's a bit hard to wrap your head around an authoritarian community being libertarian (it was for me), but the fact that you can leave and join at will is what makes it acceptable within a libertarian framework. Compare this with pre-Meiji Japan, or East Germany, or modern Saudi Arabia; ""chained countries"", so to speak, where the people who want to come in are denied entry and, more importantly, the people who want to leave are denied exit.",,Anonymous,ankek.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1494243717 124647999,124661294,2017-05-08 11:42:30,">>124660363 Yes, rw libertarians are generally for individualism while being economically right. They are minarchists wanting to retain minimal govt function for defense of the realm and law enforcement. Hoppean libertarians (ancap) want no govt, the responsibilities falling onto the sovereign individual and the private sector. This does not mean open borders etc. Voluntary association and private property rights. Remember force can still be used, just the govt is no longer the arbiter of when it is applied.",,Anonymous,d86ba47e8a939586f517f80759b3bb4c.jpg,RSPa9Jn3SlunapaBv8rr4Q==,GB,,1494243750 124647999,124661423,2017-05-08 11:43:43,">>124661020 AnCap would be like Minecraft factions server. Everyone would group up with like minded individuals, get resources build bases with farms and shit then get diamond armor and go around pvping each other and blowing the land up with TNT and spamming lava everywhere. Also factions servers had land claiming and everything which is basically property rights and you could kill anyone who walked on your claimed land for violating the NAP it would be sikkk my man",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494243823 124647999,124661481,2017-05-08 11:44:21,">>124659793 Kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494243861 124647999,124661528,2017-05-08 11:44:46,">>124661234 >the people who want to come in are denied entry This, we need open borders - you can end the contract and leave if you want, and you can sign the contract and join if you want",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494243886 124647999,124661645,2017-05-08 11:45:55,We're fucked.,,Anonymous,frog thinking it through.jpg,rajIzSZ+tfLTNvDdwTqVhg==,US,,1494243955 124647999,124661673,2017-05-08 11:46:11,">>124661294 this, its unjustified for the government to charge you taxes for being on their land but if a landlord wants to charge you rent then its justified because you're on their land that they passed down generations",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494243971 124647999,124661740,2017-05-08 11:46:53,According to multiple different political tests I'm a Minarchist and after some reading on it I agree. What should I start reading?,,Anonymous,81801907DC844D9B8114460F4FB6B14E341600001038B39163DD_tmp.jpg,yCfnjOgEQjmoHPGPrT1rug==,US,,1494244013 124647999,124661856,2017-05-08 11:47:48,">>124661234 For me, in the moment you have a central authority that dictates the rules in a group, it is no longer is a libertarian community. Maybe my consideration of libertarian = anarchist is wrong. If you are talking about minarchist it makes sense.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494244068 124647999,124661918,2017-05-08 11:48:27,">>124661423 Ever thought how much more happier you'd be if you spend your time wood working or doing push-ups instead of playing minecraft? And yes I know the irony of me saying that while spending 3 hours a day on a Hungarian brick laying forum but I'm already where I want to be and dont have anything to fix so I'm sorted, what's your excuse?",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1494244107 124647999,124661921,2017-05-08 11:48:32,">>124661740 fuck off, minarchists should be thrown from helicopters for violating the NAP because they believe in tax which violates it",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494244112 124647999,124661932,2017-05-08 11:48:34,">>124661528 Contractual citizenship is more of a private borders policy, m8. To sign the contract, you have to agree to the other party's terms as they do to yours. Naturally that means the contractor can set whatever standards they want, including those that would discriminate based on race, religion, ideology, etc.",,Anonymous,gold membership plus.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,US,,1494244114 124647999,124661967,2017-05-08 11:48:57,">>124660953 Read Private production of defence, by hoppe. Not a 'rifle behind every blade of grass' but gpmgs, atgms, and manpads. Also PMCs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494244137 124647999,124662197,2017-05-08 11:50:50,">>124661423 Isn't there an ancap Eve faction?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494244250 124647999,124662291,2017-05-08 11:51:41,">>124660953 >outside group violates the NAP rev up those helicopters",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494244301 124647999,124662312,2017-05-08 11:51:55,">>124661932 we ancaps should go and start a country based on this so we can do that, but the government is stopping us because they are limiting the supply of land on the Earth by existing as they are a monopoly on force and only government creates monopolies but once we use the free market to make a space program where everyone voluntarily pays for it we can leave earth and go to another planet and start the ancap society and if anyone wanted to leave they could voluntarily hop on a spaceship and start their own commie shithole on another planet which would make it not violate the NAP",,Anonymous,inMsTLgqBqf_MQ6bOELRZFBHT20EHo8hSwUNsmyny8g.jpg,R3Y1krShIYUBMzOuZUHarA==,GB,,1494244315 124647999,124662326,2017-05-08 11:52:02,">>124661673 Can't see the difference between a state and contractual relationships exposed to third party arbitration, yet dares to claim Ancap is not hard to understand and that he has grown out of AnCap. You're proving time and again you're just a simple brainlet.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494244322 124647999,124662381,2017-05-08 11:52:35,">>124661967 And you'r gonna have a professional army without taxation right?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494244355 124647999,124662440,2017-05-08 11:53:12,">>124661740 Pic related, in addition to Nozick's ""Anarchy, State, and Utopia"". >>124661856 If everyone consents and non-consenters are permitted to leave, then that's enough to make it libertarian, at least in structure. It guarantees individual freedom by giving you the option of going to a different community with a different set of rules, perchance one with no central authority. The presence of choice is the important part here; what you choose reflects on whether *you* are libertarian or authoritarian, but the fact that you can make the choice at all means you're living in a somewhat libertarian system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494244392 124647999,124662505,2017-05-08 11:53:45,">>124662381 http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/the-9-largest-private-armies-in-the-world-what-are-they-fighting-for-179460/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494244425 124647999,124662508,2017-05-08 11:53:47,">>124662440 God dammit I forgot the picture",,Anonymous,ancap studies.jpg,SnEQCTcPv+EPuDYiCg+3CQ==,US,,1494244427 124647999,124662516,2017-05-08 11:53:56,">>124661856 In an ancap society you can have 'covenants', these are essentially people who voluntarily come together to live a certain way. If you want a natsoc/kkk themed society, go for it. As long as it is voluntary, and/or contractual, go for it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494244436 124647999,124662768,2017-05-08 11:56:15,">>124662326 i actually agree it makes a big difference when you have to sign a contract with a pen because then it makes it moral and voluntary, thats what my parents did before I was born against my will to make sure they didnt violate the nap which would give me grounds to kill them (they wouldnt be able to call PMC to defend themselves from me because the PMC would get a ruling from the private court that they violated the NAP so the PMC would say fuck the money we aint coming)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494244575 124647999,124662783,2017-05-08 11:56:25,">>124662508 >no Hayek on there sick everywhere Everyone should read Road to Serfdom, an absolute classic.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494244585 124647999,124662848,2017-05-08 11:57:05,">>124662783 There's an updated image that's better than that one.",,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,PT,,1494244625 124647999,124663045,2017-05-08 11:59:06,">>124662783 I dont like hayek because im a facso-libertarian and hayek always says that fascism and socialism are the same to make it easier to attack socialism by using his perecieved flaws of fascism and applying them to socialism which is incorrect",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494244746 124647999,124663055,2017-05-08 11:59:11,">>124662783 There is a version with it on",,Anonymous,livros.jpg,62yb87zMPww/9AcYri3Apw==,GB,,1494244751 124647999,124663069,2017-05-08 11:59:13,>>124662848,,Anonymous,1493576810052.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,BE,,1494244753 124647999,124663095,2017-05-08 11:59:28,">>124662783 Also, Hayek is there. >The Use of Knowledge in Society",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1494244768 124647999,124663179,2017-05-08 12:00:17,">>124662440 >permitted to leave It doesn't sound like a choice to me. If I have my property (e.g. land) there I will not want to leave. Therefore, I will either be put in jail/killed for not obeying the new community law or I will need to abandon my property and escape.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494244817 124647999,124663186,2017-05-08 12:00:19,">>124663069 Thanks Belgium bro, the one I was referring to however was this >>124663055",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494244819 124647999,124663244,2017-05-08 12:00:58,">>124648947 This",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494244858 124647999,124663289,2017-05-08 12:01:25,">>124662505 the main employess of these are governments though. So what would stop these companies from either : 1) disbanding without large states funding them 2) becomming the new state, since they are now the biggest military force and can litarally do what they want.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494244885 124647999,124663322,2017-05-08 12:01:42,">>124663095 love that meme, i agree that communist fags should be physically removed, thought crime is a very libertarian prinicple and we should use pre-emptive force",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494244902 124647999,124663387,2017-05-08 12:02:18,">>124663055 Sorry, larger version",,Anonymous,1491617931417.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,GB,,1494244938 124647999,124663432,2017-05-08 12:02:43,">>124663179 Yes, whenever you move somewhere else, you do need to abandon the house and land you had before. Most people just sell those prior to leaving.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494244963 124647999,124663856,2017-05-08 12:06:38,">>124663432 The point is, I don't want to leave, but I don't want to obey new laws imposed on me. That is why I'm telling that it is not libertarian/anarchist imo.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494245198 124647999,124664012,2017-05-08 12:07:57,">>124663069 friendly reminder that Adam Smith was a proto georgist Why isnt anyone a Geolibertarian? Right wingers just take over everything good with memes. You guys are like that one dude at the bar whos politically ignorant but loud as fuck",,Anonymous,adamsmithisageoist.jpg,JUWppajMdiB5mV3ofkxBVg==,US,,1494245277 124647999,124664306,2017-05-08 12:10:27,">>124664012 fuck off commie fuck get thrown out of a helicopter",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494245427 124647999,124664324,2017-05-08 12:10:35,">>124663289 Firstly lets make it abundantly clear that you are wrong that all force is state provided in our current world. 1 - that is a case of supply / demand - irrelevant that the state funds them now 2 - so they have become outlaws now? and they are going to take over the world?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494245435 124647999,124664748,2017-05-08 12:14:27,">>124660819 >Dwarf Fortress >Peaceful",,Anonymous,the_fall_of_koganusan_by_majicxiii.jpg,eU+WoElsTXkOrTmVmKA1VA==,FR,,1494245667 124647999,124665210,2017-05-08 12:18:59,">>124660023 I gotta agree dapperton is a cringey faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494245939 124647999,124665583,2017-05-08 12:22:19,">>124665210 just because you don't understand ancap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mp02DJH5wU get fucked statist",,Anonymous,614755.png,+I8ezestAkEDu7aRhAMboA==,GB,,1494246139 124647999,124666093,2017-05-08 12:27:16,">>124665583 Yeah whatever Dapperton, you are a humorless fag that makes us look like cringey ideolouges. maybe accept some criticism with a light hearted approach. I am an Anarcho-Capitalist myself, and your post is an example of exactly what im talking about. lighten up faggot.",,Anonymous,1487037765142.jpg,dh/hSQORwZLSwjYerE1deQ==,US,,1494246436 124647999,124666317,2017-05-08 12:29:16,">>124666093 Is it Dapperton like ""dapper""? Fucking cringe",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494246556 124647999,124666450,2017-05-08 12:30:27,">>124666317 lol go easy on him, he might make a video about how much he hates you now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494246627 124647999,124666484,2017-05-08 12:30:40,">>124666317 Yeah, because you commies are dressed in rags whilst we AnCaps wear suits for business and look dapper as fuck. nys",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494246640 124647999,124666715,2017-05-08 12:32:27,">>124666484 If you come in here talking about minecraft again I will physically remove you",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494246747 124647999,124666856,2017-05-08 12:33:42,">>124666484 let me talk to you in a video I will trash on you while promoting anarcho-capitalism, it will be a good laugh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494246822 124647999,124667027,2017-05-08 12:35:07,">>124666856 I have a British flag, and am British, do you really think I'm the real Mr Dapperton? He probably has better things to do than post here, pretty sure he dedicates about 9 hours a day to his channel too.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494246907 124647999,124667066,2017-05-08 12:35:29,">>124665583 Wtf is this larping gayshit holy fuck I have aids fucking skeptic faggots",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494246929 124647999,124667082,2017-05-08 12:35:37,">>124664324 >o they have become outlaws now? and they are going to take over the world? Yah, pretty much. Unless they al happen to be fanatic libertarians, they would have quite a strong incentive to assume leadership of a libertarian society.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494246937 124647999,124667232,2017-05-08 12:37:05,">>124667027 >Implying i care to know where you live mr dapperton.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494247025 124647999,124667335,2017-05-08 12:38:07,">>124664012 Georgism is pretty much a dead ideology, but Henry George's influence on the libertarian movement is remarkable (see Nock and Chodorov.) Georgism relies on Ricardian rent theory, which is largely inapplicable to modern society. As a result, it's somewhat anachronistic. There are different reasons why Land Value Tax might be considered the ""least bad tax"", however.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494247087 124647999,124667720,2017-05-08 12:41:43,"For all the libertarian/ancaps portubros in this board, we need to unite, create a movement and spread the message. What do you think?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494247303 124647999,124667753,2017-05-08 12:41:56,">>124667082 >le vigilantism meme",,Anonymous,vigilantism.png,GiMCotDkA2EJHogCAL7nfg==,GB,,1494247316 124647999,124667865,2017-05-08 12:42:56,">>124667720 Start attenting CDS, PPM and other right-wing rallies, join the Mises online group, like our pages (Instituto Mises Portugal, Tempos Livres, PortugalGate, O Insurgente, Partido Libertário, etc.)",,Anonymous,ancap squad.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1494247376 124647999,124668222,2017-05-08 12:45:48,">>124663856 I still don't understand the hangup here. The fascism is bad enough to make you want to leave, yet your land and house are good enough to nearly outweigh that. How good can your property possibly be so as to discourage you from seeking a better standard of living? That would be akin to a Christian man being conflicted about leaving Saudi Arabia because he has a nice mansion there, the difference being that this hypothetical fascist community could/would not do anything to stop you from leaving.",,Anonymous,IMG_2649.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1494247548 124647999,124668293,2017-05-08 12:46:22,">>124667865 I am aware of them and in fact I've been contacting with them but them seem a bit dead. I was talking about something fresh and atractive",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494247582 124647999,124668319,2017-05-08 12:46:34,"Turns out my sony vegas is broken so i did some bullshit online uploader. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLsp6AaPWbQ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494247594 124647999,124668811,2017-05-08 12:50:45,">>124667753 Not at all what I mean. Security companies don't need to work at all for other companies, since they have the power and there is no state to intervene. They can just extrot companies for money, like the mafia, or basically the state. Assuming other security companies would rush in against them to defend the NAP is ridiculous. More likely, they would do the same thing, each security firm carving a territory for itself, forming different states basically.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494247845 124647999,124669642,2017-05-08 12:57:38,Is there any particular order i should read the book listed in the op in quite curious in the libertarian movement,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494248258 124647999,124670016,2017-05-08 13:00:53,">>124668811 >Security companies don't need to work at all for other companies, since they have the power and there is no state to intervene. Over who? Over what? 'companies' are just groups of people who voluntarily interact to create a firm. All of this vigilantism requires a superficial dark side of humans who want to kill and conquer everyone, and no one is there to stop them. You only see this stuff in the movies for a reason. >They can just extrot companies for money, like the mafia, or basically the state. Again, you've confused extortion (such as tax) with a voluntary contract and association >Assuming other security companies would rush in against them to defend the NAP is ridiculous. People already hire said firms, so how is this ridiculous? It is no different from the US hiring private contractors who are experts in a certain area. This stuff is regular. Its likely a NATO type organisation would be formed anyway. >More likely, they would do the same thing, each security firm carving a territory for itself, forming different states basically. So an ancap world of private cities protected by private militia? lol",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494248453 124647999,124670086,2017-05-08 13:01:23,bump with epic quote,,Anonymous,1485541136956.png,3Uqfj6FJK+D1Yd9SLWtbFQ==,US,,1494248483 124647999,124670568,2017-05-08 13:05:09,Bump,,Anonymous,quote-rightful-liberty-is-unobstructed-action-according-to-our-will-within-limits-drawn-around-us-by-the-thomas-jefferson-94097 (1).jpg,rK40CqeAMpRa5g2p/AJWnA==,GB,,1494248709 124647999,124670790,2017-05-08 13:06:56,"My question: Doesn't libertarianism basically mean corporations can institute monopolies and control our lives without anybody being able to literally do anything?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1494248816 124647999,124671417,2017-05-08 13:11:52,">>124670790 No because monopolies are impossible in a free market and customers would bankrupt bad companies.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1494249112 124647999,124671474,2017-05-08 13:12:25,">>124670790 There will be companies of all sizes, only difference will be that the big ones can't use buerocracy and big government to their advantage. People are still gonna want cheap cheese burgers.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1494249145 124647999,124671590,2017-05-08 13:13:14,">>124667335 > largely inapplicable to modern society Because ((they)) made up new economics to deal with George and silence his followers. He was as popular if not more so than Marx in his time yet has been all but forgotten by modern economists while Marx remains. Why treat one like an alien threat and another like a quack? http://masongaffney.org/publications/K1Neo-classical_Stratagem.CV.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494249194 124647999,124671736,2017-05-08 13:14:23,">>124670790 The only bad actors that can control your lives are ones in which interaction is not voluntary. This of course isn't the case with business or corporations (a collection of individuals). Control can only exist in a state as they are the ultimate force, above and beyond any other, as state interaction is never voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494249263 124647999,124672156,2017-05-08 13:17:52,">>124670016 >Over who? Over what? To intervene over big security firms extorting people. > All of this vigilantism requires a superficial dark side of humans who want to kill and conquer everyone, and no one is there to stop them. Extort doesn't mean kill. But if a group has the power to take control of a society, you can't just say they wouldn't do it because they'r good guys. in fact, it wouldn't even be that immoral, someone has to provide protection, why compete when you don't have to? >You only see this stuff in the movies for a reason. Maybe because there's a state to stop that. But actually, you don't just see it in movies, but in history also. Wars of conquest are quite common. >Again, you've confused extortion (such as tax) with a voluntary contract and association No, by extort I mean make businesses pay up or suffer. not sure what's voluntary here. >People already hire said firms, so how is this ridiculous? They hire than now, because there's a state to oversee things. But if there's no state why would security firms work for anyone instead of just taking over? >So an ancap world of private cities protected by private militia? lol No, just a fragmented country, with different city states or regions ruled over by military juntas.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494249472 124647999,124672214,2017-05-08 13:18:18,"I like /lrg/ because people are always ready to respond and have discussions. >>124671417 >>124671474 >>124671736 Yea but classical monopoly scenario: all companies agree to increase the price of a certain good. If somebody doesn't agree it gets bought out or collapsed. Without government regulations how can this situation be avoided?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1494249498 124647999,124672841,2017-05-08 13:23:43,">>124672156 I really can't be bothered to argue with you as you simply do not understand the simplistic differences between voluntary contracts and state force. I take it you have never worked in a business, for if you did, you would understand. There's no such thing as 'extortion' outside of a state that doesn't involve the use of force (killing people) as the final measure. The simple fact is that 'good' individuals (read: one's that don't want to total control over everyone else) will not do business with the outlaw secruity company. This security company would then have to wager war upon everyone and everything, which is vigilantism, and has been refuted so many times. Read some fucking literature before you come in with these insane scenarios.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494249823 124647999,124672899,2017-05-08 13:24:10,">>124670790 Look up an article called ""Myth of the natural monopoly"" by Thomas J. DiLorenzo",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494249850 124647999,124672972,2017-05-08 13:24:47,">>124667335 >>124664012 Georgism is retarded and is antithetical to the idea of private property. >nice land ya got there >so nice you're gonna need to pay me [THE STATE] taxes. >oh by the way, be a REAL SHAME, if you couldnt come up with the money cause I'll take it away from you. Geolibertarian is an oxy-moron.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494249887 124647999,124673557,2017-05-08 13:30:17,">>124672972 this",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494250217 124647999,124673759,2017-05-08 13:32:01,">>124672972 What makes it your land? Just because you say so?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494250321 124647999,124673764,2017-05-08 13:32:03,">>124672972 Some how anytime i try and post something george related im met with a ""connection lost"" screen why is this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494250323 124647999,124673942,2017-05-08 13:33:40,">>124672841 >There's no such thing as 'extortion' outside of a state that doesn't involve the use of force (killing people) as the final measure. Force and killing people is different. But let's say these security firms would kill those who opppose them, so what? >The simple fact is that 'good' individuals (read: one's that don't want to total control over everyone else) will not do business with the outlaw secruity company. Is submitting because your life is threatened considered business? If so, then you are wrong. >This security company would then have to wager war upon everyone and everything, No, pretty sure most people would pay for protection and adjust to the situation, instead of bothering with being AnCap revolutionaries. Not to mention most people aren't hippies and would like to sieze power gien the chance, so such opposition is futile. Just look at Mexico, that's a society with a weak state. >Read some fucking literature before you come in with these insane scenarios. Read books by deluded people, who ignore realistic events that disprove their insane views? Nah. How about you read some history books, with actual facts and get a better understanding of human nature.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494250420 124647999,124673954,2017-05-08 13:33:47,Daily reminder that the libertarian right is an oxymoron contradiction,,Anonymous,,,HR,,1494250427 124647999,124674013,2017-05-08 13:34:16,">>124672972 Anyway a Georgist would say that porperty rights flow from self ownership not from what you can poses. So what you create is your property. Since you cant actually create land it should be held in commons",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494250456 124647999,124674122,2017-05-08 13:35:10,">>124672841 >Taking land by conquest is impossible You have to ignore pretty much the entirety of human history to believe this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494250510 124647999,124674673,2017-05-08 13:39:50,">>124672972 So ancaps can spam Hope quotes all day, Stormfaggots can spam fake statistics, R/theodnald can shit post ad infinitum but, i cant Georgepost? Get fucked shitty mods",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1494250790 124647999,124674705,2017-05-08 13:40:05,">>124672214 Other firms would move into the market as there would be a profit incentive. This would lead to oligopolies, and finally market competition. If somehow the barriers to entry were so ludicrously high, then another product would be created as a substitute. A good example is the fall of OPEC, ZH had an article on it today in fact http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-08/why-opec-lost-war-against-shale-four-charts >>124673942 Killing someone is the final solution and only way you deal with someone who refuses to do what you want them to do. This is basic. Anyone who doesn't submit to this firm will end up being killed, supposedly (see the Holodomor). As you stated, people would ""pay for protection"" in the form of private militia. In fact, they would already pay for it in the first place if there was a threat. >>124674122 Completely different argument, this is about a one-firm vigilantic simulation. Nice strawman though.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494250805 124647999,124674920,2017-05-08 13:41:48,">>124674673 We dont spam Hoppe quotes in stormfag threads, please dont spam geofag stuff in hoppefag threads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494250908 124647999,124674931,2017-05-08 13:41:52,"Quote from Hoppe when asked about what sites he visits ""As for other sites, I have been called an extremist, a reactionary, a revisionist, an elitist, a supremacist, a racist, a homophobe, an anti-Semite, a right-winger, a theocrat, a godless cynic, a fascist and, of course, a must for every German, a Nazi. So, it should be expected that I have a foible for politically ""incorrect"" sites that every ""modern,"" ""decent,"" ""civilized,"" ""tolerant,"" and ""enlightened"" man is supposed to ignore and avoid."" https://mises.org/library/mind-hans-hermann-hoppe Makes you wonder...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494250912 124647999,124674936,2017-05-08 13:41:53,">>124672972 ancap mods getting btfo inb4 banned",,Anonymous,commonvsstateprop.jpg,2HUhFgaPW/aBdZC7xmFcDg==,US,,1494250913 124647999,124675067,2017-05-08 13:43:12,>>124674920,,Anonymous,safe.jpg,C4ch6Sq4Uk3PMArg9RVscA==,US,,1494250992 124647999,124675140,2017-05-08 13:43:51,">>124673759 >What makes it your land? original appropriation by means of labor. What land you originally appropriate physically, you own. Look up Locke's theory of private ownership",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494251031 124647999,124675153,2017-05-08 13:43:57,">>124673759 >>124674013 These are retarded, Native American tier arguments. >How can you own land!??!? >u didnt make it! >it belongs to all of us! Actually, if you understood the concept of ""private property"", you would see that land can very well be bought and sold and transferred like any other good, and can be ""yours"". If it can be taken away from you at a moments whim due to your inability to pay, you're less likely to improve or maintain the land because it could all be for nothing. >>124674673 >citing intellectuals and nitpicking quotes to convey your faulty, georgist worldview. >REEEing about everything else because you cant defend your own shitty, obsolete, worldview",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494251037 124647999,124675396,2017-05-08 13:46:06,">>124675140 John Locke is often misrepresented by royal libertarians, who quote him very selectively. For example, Locke did say that: Whatsoever then he removes out of the state that nature hath provided, and left it in, he hath mixed his labour with, and joined to it something that is his own, and thereby makes it his property. But Locke condemned anyone who took more than he needed as a ""spoiler of the commons"": ...if the fruits rotted, or the venison putrified, before he could spend it, he offended against the common law of nature, and was liable to be punished; he invaded his neighbour's share, for he had no right, farther than his use called for any of them, and they might serve to afford him conveniences of life. The same measures governed the possession of land too: whatsoever he tilled and reaped, laid up and made use of, before it spoiled, that was his peculiar right; whatsoever he enclosed, and could feed, and make use of, the cattle and product was also his. But if either the grass of his enclosure rotted on the ground, or the fruit of his planting perished without gathering, and laying up, this part of the earth, notwithstanding his enclosure, was still to be looked on as waste, and might be the possession of any other. continued....",,Anonymous,ny-state-single-tax-league-sign-undated.jpg,VnxpX5ckK+3OQ+09PEeTFA==,US,,1494251166 124647999,124675450,2017-05-08 13:46:35,">>124675396 Locke also restricted appropriation of land by the proviso, ignored by royal libertarians, that there must be still enough, and as good left; and more than the yet unprovided could use. So that, in effect, there was never the less left for others because of his enclosure for himself: for he that leaves as much as another can make use of, does as good as take nothing at all. Now if the situation is that there is enough free land, and as good, left after you take and cultivate your land, than your land has no market value, for who would pay you for land that is not better than land that can be had for free? So, besides the fact that Locke's justification of privatizing land is far more limited than royal libertarians portray it to be, it is irrelevant to the question of land value tax, as it applies only to land that has no value. Furthermore, Locke based his scenario on pre-monetary societies, where a landholder would find that ""it was useless, as well as dishonest, to carve himself too much, or take more than he needed."" With the introduction of money, Locke noted, all land quickly became appropriated. Why? Because with money, those who can take more land than they have personal use for suddenly have reason to do so, as between them they will have taken all the land, and others will have to pay rent to them. So, with the introduction of money, the Lockean rationale for landed property falls apart, even according to Locke. And while Locke did not propose a remedy specifically for to this problem, he repeatedly stated that all taxes should be on real estate.",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1494251195 124647999,124675616,2017-05-08 13:48:04,"Why is it such a pain in the ass trying to truth-bomb statists? I put effort into writing out well thought out arguments, posting long detailed replies, and all I get in response is >hurr nice try cuck go back to plebbit >libertarianism has never been tried >what about muh roads? >pol is a NutSac board I'm doing my part red-pilling the masses about the evils of government, and the benefit of uncircumcised capitalism, and I get in return edgy nazi kids telling me how my ideas are stupid and how ""just wait, you'll change your mind. Read some of these nazi books and you'll come around"" How do you keep your head cool around such dense morons? The more evidence and arguments I provide, the more they double down on their foolish beliefs",,Anonymous,1494202618101.png,xRxV0uV1lZtG3/JTMrBkow==,CA,,1494251284 124647999,124675731,2017-05-08 13:49:10,">>124675153 If you knew any of human history, you'd understand why claiming a patch of land without the ability to defend it is pretty much a hopeless endeavor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494251350 124647999,124675856,2017-05-08 13:50:10,">>124674705 > Anyone who doesn't submit to this firm will end up being killed Killed or in prison. But not ""this"" firm, since they would all do the same thing. It's only natural. when you have a power vacuum (no, or very weak state) someone will fill it (again, see Mexi or the mafia). > As you stated, people would ""pay for protection"" in the form of private militia. Yes, just that the millitias will assume all the responsabilities of the state, or more likely the privileges, since there's nothing to stop them.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494251410 124647999,124675947,2017-05-08 13:50:54,">>124675153 image completely refutes your finders keepers 3 year old tier argument and all you do is REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494251454 124647999,124675952,2017-05-08 13:50:59,">>124673759 Same way you acquire any goods - through voluntary contracts, purchase or rent. Backed by tort/arbitration/force.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494251459 124647999,124675983,2017-05-08 13:51:13,">>124675731 >cant understand the post so I'll change the argument to something unrelated!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494251473 124647999,124676187,2017-05-08 13:52:50,">>124674673 >Stormfaggots can spam fake statistics >Things I don't like are fake because I said so You need to go back",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494251570 124647999,124676196,2017-05-08 13:52:53,">>124675616 It's always ""MUH JEWS"". While I agree with them to an extent, they take it too far. Jewry this, Jewry that. It's too much.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494251573 124647999,124676207,2017-05-08 13:53:02,">>124675731 >without the ability to defend it Who says I can't defend it? Who says I can't use the profits of the land to insure myself with a private military contractor who will protect me? Just fuck off with your stupid strawmans. >>124675856 So everyone now wants to kill each other? Ridiculous hypothetical scenario #434233. People would band together peacefully to insure themselves against such a force AS THEY CURRENTLY DO. There is no POWER VACUUM when you are already insured. >>124675616 It is extremely infuriating. The worst is the strawman American who asks the same things over and over. IQ of an African, probably a nigger.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494251582 124647999,124676219,2017-05-08 13:53:10,">>124675616 Because all your ideas involve completely ignoring history. History shows that without regulations in place, private businesses will recklessly pollute the environment, exploit children for cheap labor, etc. Anybody with a least average intelligence understands why the government can't just be a non-actor in the economy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494251590 124647999,124676377,2017-05-08 13:54:35,">>124676219 >private businesses will recklessly pollute the environment, exploit children for cheap labor, All of these breach the NAP you nigger faggot. Fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494251675 124647999,124676383,2017-05-08 13:54:37,">>124674931 Kek someone should email him a YouTube Playlist with all the hoppewave and related Hoppe videos plus the OCEAN we have made and give him the quick rundown on what a legend he is. He seems like he'd roll in bed and wouldnt stop laughing.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494251677 124647999,124676516,2017-05-08 13:55:46,">>124675983 Are you going to refute what locke actually said >>124675396 >>124675450 or just change the argument because you dont understand what was posted?",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1494251746 124647999,124676550,2017-05-08 13:56:01,">>124675616 I can do it because I was one of those idiots. All I knew about ancap was the anti memes and muh roads shit. Then a few good posts got me on to mises.org and I got snekpilled. I find a good tactic is to play on the fact that you get a lot of rw benefits without the drawback of having to be a bootlicker",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494251761 124647999,124676626,2017-05-08 13:56:41,">>124676377 does polluting the culture breach NAP?",,Anonymous,capitalism.webm,PU9UnFJIUMNc0vYvw6zZCg==,GB,,1494251801 124647999,124676648,2017-05-08 13:56:56,">>124675616 >>124676196 Watch the JQ, understand the NatSoc perspective. many of their muh jews arguments can get btfo if you know why they hate the jews so much. You'll find theres no solid argument as to why they hate libertarian jews, libertarians are not in any way involved with zionists, communists, or globalists. after all NatSoc is a reaction to those three things.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494251816 124647999,124676735,2017-05-08 13:57:41,">>124676207 >Who says I can't defend it? You're one person. One person can't fight off an army. And yes, history has innumerable examples of armies being used to seize land by force. >But I'll just hire mercenaries to defend my land! That's a fine option is you're super-duper wealthy, but not really a practical option for most people. More likely, a wealthy person will send his private army to seize your land, and you can't really do anything about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494251861 124647999,124676929,2017-05-08 13:59:27,">>124672214 That's not what I think of when I hear monopoly. I define monopoly as the inability to enter a specific line of production. Only X can produce Y and no one else. This is the definition Hoppe uses (and I'm sure it's a more popular one) to frame the state and its big business allies. But for your question: raising their prices would bring incentives for all other competitors, small and starting up, to work extra hard to get some market share. Cartels like the ones you're describing fall apart over time because they're not trustworthy and, without a state, would leave the door open for independent businesses to dive in and do the work themselves.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494251967 124647999,124677057,2017-05-08 14:00:40,">>124676377 I'm not sure what your point is. You might think that using child labor is an NAP violation, but historically, factories had no problem using child labor to keep wages down. The only reason they stopped doing this sort of thing is because, wait for it, the evil government came along and passed laws saying that child labor isn't OK anymore. >>124676929 >I can just redefine words to fit my ideology",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494252040 124647999,124677203,2017-05-08 14:01:58,">>124676626 not exactly, but such cultural degredation can be physically removed without such use of force that would violate the NAP. None is sweeter than the natural right of discrimination. if you have a private community that does not wish to partake in such disgusting degeneracy you have every right not to tolerate their behaivior, shoo them from your property, not serve them in your buinesses, not hire them you can excommunicate somone from your community for any reason.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494252118 124647999,124677205,2017-05-08 14:01:59,">>124675616 That's annoying sometimes. It's why I usually stop replying to those autists who come here asking about ""le warlords and rogue defense firms taking over"" since they don't even bother to read my posts. And when I post that long ass quote of Hoppe the reply is ""nonsense"" and no argument is made.",,Anonymous,1493935188847.jpg,3/2aRCaFCZasALSG/RlAxA==,PT,,1494252119 124647999,124677227,2017-05-08 14:02:04,">>124675616 The simple fact is that a lot of people have simply no interest in learning political economy. They are only here to argue. You have two types a) the Italian above, who is genuinely interested and wants to learn. b) the statist American who posts the same strawman arguments. >>124676735 aaaaaaand here he is again with nigger tier argument >but not really a practical option for most people. Imagine unironically thinking this. You must be really fucking thick, and I don't care for my adhoms. You are just thick. I could provide a clear and detailed explanation of why that's ridiculous, but I can't be fucked, so I'm gonna call you a nigger instead. Ignore the b's.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494252124 124647999,124677244,2017-05-08 14:02:10,">>124676207 >So everyone now wants to kill each other? No, just that people aren't hippies, ignorant of human nature (certainly not the guys working in security i'd imagine). Someone will inevitably enforce their will over society, so might as well be me. Just because people want to do that doesn't mean they'r bad, just like the state isn't bad. >Ridiculous hypothetical scenario That's human history. The state is a human creation, why do you think every society that isn't some backward low iq tribe has the concept of the state? >There is no POWER VACUUM when you are already insured. Human nature will innevitably lead these security firms to become the state, since force is the ultimate authority.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494252130 124647999,124677392,2017-05-08 14:03:26,">>124651413 Damn they seem too be pretty damn serious. KEK",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494252206 124647999,124677508,2017-05-08 14:04:33,">>124677057 :^)",,Anonymous,1488841034165.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,PT,,1494252273 124647999,124677610,2017-05-08 14:05:22,">>124677244 >Someone will inevitably enforce their will over society, so might as well be me Only if people voluntarily wish it to be so. If they don't (and people won't) then they either back down or war ensues. >Human nature will innevitably lead these security firms to become the state, since force is the ultimate authority. Again, a total misunderstanding of voluntary contracts and state taxation.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494252322 124647999,124677687,2017-05-08 14:06:00,,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494252360 124647999,124677879,2017-05-08 14:07:49,"nazbol gang represent libertarians are literally liberals, they're economically right socially left nazbol is economically left and socially right",,Anonymous,nazbol gang.png,NFC2UDMoMuA8j4i3MFLayg==,NL,,1494252469 124647999,124677905,2017-05-08 14:07:59,">>124677227 Imagine being so historically illiterate that you actually believe that 1 guy can fight off and entire army by himself. Remember when Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia and one Serbian farmer fought off the entire Austrian army by himself because they had the gall to violate NAP? Neither do I.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494252479 124647999,124677984,2017-05-08 14:08:39,"libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism has been pushed by jewish academics: ayn rand, rothbard, mises etc.",,Anonymous,corbyn nazbol.png,FHG71OWbbvQnQgp3Di3Ajg==,NL,,1494252519 124647999,124678057,2017-05-08 14:09:24,libertarians are pro-globalism (they call it ''free trade''),,Anonymous,comradetrump.png,1Z4Gk3iaHk8LCMPnga99Lw==,NL,,1494252564 124647999,124678143,2017-05-08 14:10:06,"libertarians hate the white working class, they love the jewish elite and giving them tax cuts neo-liberalism is simply the logical conclusion of libertarianism",,Anonymous,comradetrump2.jpg,9IX0CQ+vmRsLm0iF38NBSg==,NL,,1494252606 124647999,124678342,2017-05-08 14:11:44,">>124677879 >>124677984 >>124678057 >>124678143",,Anonymous,holyshit.jpg,WuLLEW1WkGxDb9UrfgpNBA==,US,,1494252704 124647999,124678501,2017-05-08 14:13:13,">>124672214 In general real monopolies (not created by government) are very rare. It usually do not have a long life span either. It would be very hard to find some long lived monopoly that did not received some kind of help from government (that is a problem of too much centralized power - even if you have good rules, people with money and power won't need to follow them). Maybe diamonds could be one example. On top of that I am libertarian, but I am not against the government (like any responsible adult with critical thinking abilities). Society still needs some rules to live by (as few as possible). In my opinion a rule against price fixing is perfectly reasonable.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1494252793 124647999,124678565,2017-05-08 14:13:44,">>124678342 sorry your ideology has been blown the fuck out a million times, liberal remember, it's not a state if it's someone enforcing his property rights :)",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494252824 124647999,124678635,2017-05-08 14:14:22,">>124677610 >Only if people voluntarily wish it to be so Pretty sure enforcing is the opposite of voluntary. People won't fight an actual military with probably better gear and certainly more experience and will to kill, no matter how much of a libertarian they are, most people aren't spartans, they would rather do productive stuff than risck their lives just so they don't pay tax, untill the next warlord comes around. what you want would just throw civilization back to city states, for a while. >a total misunderstanding of voluntary contracts and state taxation. Well shit, i'm pretty sure I know what a voluntary contract is, as well as taxation, but since you keep repeatig that manybe i don't. So how does that negate the fact that force is the ultimate authority?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494252862 124647999,124678709,2017-05-08 14:15:02,">>124647999 >These generals",,Anonymous,74b.jpg,xtHuxOjXU5qFNkCbbJw+yQ==,AU,,1494252902 124647999,124678818,2017-05-08 14:16:00,">>124678143 Tell you who I hate: clogniggers who come into threads with bait as worthless as their rotten tulips...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494252960 124647999,124679027,2017-05-08 14:17:45,">>124678709 Hippity Hoppity roonigger...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494253065 124647999,124679033,2017-05-08 14:17:47,">>124678565 Is a new state formed if I sign a contract with you that rents you my land and my protection services?",,Anonymous,fuck off.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1494253067 124647999,124679159,2017-05-08 14:19:02,">>124677610 Go look up a historical event called WW1 aka The Great War. Done? Okay. Now you know that all the nations involved had armies numbering the MILLIONS. The German Army alone had an army of 4.5 million people, which quickly swelled to 11 million as the conflict escalated. A private security firm CANNOT compete with that kind of manpower.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494253142 124647999,124679177,2017-05-08 14:19:13,">>124678635 >Pretty sure enforcing is the opposite of voluntary. People won't fight an actual military with probably better gear and certainly more experience and will to kill, no matter how much of a libertarian they are, most people aren't spartans, they would rather do productive stuff than risck their lives just so they don't pay tax, untill the next warlord comes around. what you want would just throw civilization back to city states, for a while. They will pay for a private militia to protect them. If they are invaded by this security company, the private militia will protect them. This is vigilantism, and once again, has been refuted a million times. >Well shit, i'm pretty sure I know what a voluntary contract is, as well as taxation, but since you keep repeatig that manybe i don't. >So how does that negate the fact that force is the ultimate authority? Force is the ultimate authority, and that currently lies with the state. I'm not sure what that has to do with this vigilantic security firm that is hellbent on taking over the world. In your scenario, the only endpoint is an outlaw group of individuals who are going to go to war with everyone - and your money is on them winning. Are you even self-aware of how stupid you sound? I'm done with you. If you genuinely want to learn then read the Hoppe link above.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494253153 124647999,124679190,2017-05-08 14:19:17,">>124678709 all important libertarian theorists were jewish >>124678818 blow me faggot, your ideology is literally giving more power the elite instead of the working class I hope libertarians never get to power, they'd ban trade unions and strikes for being ''collectivist'' individualism is cancer anyway, it's what has led to the SJW snowflake phenomenom, libertarianism is the ''pansexual otherkin genderqueer'' of political ideologies >>124679033 yup",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494253157 124647999,124679225,2017-05-08 14:19:35,>>124679027,,Anonymous,lolbert.jpg,M/dS1JwS/iXfOTLtGeaB3Q==,AU,,1494253175 124647999,124679396,2017-05-08 14:21:14,">>124679190 You aren't even trying at this point holy fuck",,Anonymous,bait-duel.jpg,lS0gBqUzmR7XUKtoTsdcMg==,US,,1494253274 124647999,124679449,2017-05-08 14:21:41,">>124658139 yeah i think so. our monarchic family is also cousins with the liechtenstein's royal family, and they seem to support hans-adam's ideas, so it seems from what i've gather.",,^~,based-prince.jpg,hhNa5wk8/y1G8HADp4IZag==,PT,,1494253301 124647999,124679457,2017-05-08 14:21:44,">>124677879 >socially left wew lad. We're paleo-libertarians",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494253304 124647999,124679601,2017-05-08 14:22:59,">>124679190 Trade union is perfectly fine. It wouldn't be banned for sure. It just would not get any special treatment from government.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1494253379 124647999,124679660,2017-05-08 14:23:33,">>124679159 You mean just like the coalition that can't roll over a bunch of stone age goatfuckers? Or the nips who said invading burger land would be horrible because of rifles behind every blade of grass? Or the ragged arsed colonials who took on the might of the British Empire and kicked them out? Now imagine that, but with private and covenant heavy weapons (up to and including wmds) plus academi and executive outcomes pitching in.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494253413 124647999,124679668,2017-05-08 14:23:35,">>124679177 >They will pay for a private militia to protect them. And what if they can't afford a private militia? Do you know how much that sort of thing actually costs? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/30/AR2007093001352.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494253415 124647999,124679878,2017-05-08 14:25:18,"if there's not a government to regulate the flow of my urine how do we make sure we can safely urinate without urine exceeding the sound of light and destroying all our genitals? ancaps btfo, communism was right all along.",,Anonymous,1493949976572.png,Zj01mtweZTl2UhiKqAPevQ==,US,,1494253518 124647999,124679992,2017-05-08 14:26:12,">>124679177 >They will pay for a private militia to protect them. If they are invaded by this security company, the private militia will protect them. Not sure what's the difference betwen private security firm and private militia in your view (if there is one), they'r both private. And my point is, private militias exist the way they do today any because the state also exists, if it didn't, these private firms would fill the place at a more local level. But it's unlikely that they would stop at providing security, especially in bigger cities. >In your scenario, the only endpoint is an outlaw group of individuals who are going to go to war with everyone - and your money is on them winning. Wouldn't really call them outlaw, since there is no law without a state. >are going to go to war with everyone They are not going to war with anyone, and they don't want to take over the world. They just fill the organic role of the state since they have the force, now that the state is gone. Point is, libertarianism is so dumb, it can't even exist. And that's why it hasn't.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494253572 124647999,124680137,2017-05-08 14:27:29,">>124677879 No we're not socially liberal, you fucking porch monkey. Btw you can't be socially conservative if you're a no job economically left neet faggot.",,Anonymous,1491774328231_0.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1494253649 124647999,124680221,2017-05-08 14:28:13,">>124679668 What? You mean communities can't all afford to have their own private militia to protect them, even against larger communities?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494253693 124647999,124680294,2017-05-08 14:28:49,">>124679225 Read and learn. No gibs, no equality, no forced association or integration. Voluntary interaction only. That sound like your idea of kikery?",,Anonymous,1487284006622.png,cFhgGumYcxx16TfYMHhh6w==,GB,,1494253729 124647999,124680344,2017-05-08 14:29:20,">>124679190 yay collectivism is great :D we should all be togheter in one love :3 everyone should be with us and we we all be friend '3' darkies and brownie are part of the working class they should join us too we will be all united 'U' go suck a nigger like Limonov and get the fuck out of here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494253760 124647999,124680473,2017-05-08 14:30:36,">>124680294 >10 year olds should be allowed to sell themselves into prostitution because it is ""voluntary""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494253836 124647999,124680588,2017-05-08 14:31:35,">>124680473 >a responsible parent would sell his children we're not in Taxi Driver here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494253895 124647999,124681157,2017-05-08 14:36:44,">>124680588 So to clear, you're saying it is okay for a 10 year old to engage in prostitution, as long as the parents are okay with it? Yikes.",,Anonymous,chris-hansen.jpg,Qyhg1/rauE10RJo01idQpw==,US,,1494254204 124682054,124682054,2017-05-08 14:44:23,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1491259332524.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,CA,,1494254663 124682054,124682578,2017-05-08 14:48:41,">libertarian >use ancap flag Poisoning that well are we?",,Anonymous,1494101149445.png,NBFNJ/9okzb+JM1TDcOWTg==,GB,,1494254921 124682054,124682746,2017-05-08 14:50:09,">>124682578 both participate in these threads, don't be a fag.",,Anonymous,1487070028227.jpg,HjVXH9vLzhrNNiOo28uejg==,US,,1494255009 124682054,124682769,2017-05-08 14:50:22,">implying libertarianism would work in a world riddled with Jews National Socialism is the only answer. Convert yourselves, heathens, and let the light of the true sun shine upon your faces and bless them with its motherly love.",,Anonymous,Black_Sun.svg.png,tL7z0X3zkBTxXntGq1QMcQ==,IT,,1494255022 124682054,124682826,2017-05-08 14:50:50,">>124682578 nah it trigger statist haters so we bump the thread faster",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494255050 124682054,124682924,2017-05-08 14:51:33,">>124682769 if I wanted to be a faggot I would just go all the way and be a commie, not you commie-lite faggot types",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494255093 124682054,124683000,2017-05-08 14:52:12,">>124682769 I hate shorts and undercuts sorry but not sorry",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494255132 124682054,124683030,2017-05-08 14:52:31,">>124682769 yes rid our selves of the jews first, then we can have a free society.",,Anonymous,1486861054722.png,OuDRtlyA/LdtiaK7/qtqiw==,US,,1494255151 124682054,124683079,2017-05-08 14:52:55,">>124682054 What's up pussy fags?",,Anonymous,93d77c83b3467286bbe0474fce468fee9a080a5088d5cebc7c06e9a399d8dcf1.jpg,KKDf0VSViGjmh/YyjHVBxg==,US,,1494255175 124682054,124683140,2017-05-08 14:53:27,"How to develop a libertarian party in a country where people are overwhelmingly statists and only believe in democratic solutions aka picking the ""left candidate"" or the ""right candidate""?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494255207 124682054,124683172,2017-05-08 14:53:44,This thread is the collective property of the nazbol gang.,,Anonymous,0c8c7652a3aa9af14fe50bde2b762a6bd99d5c670aca14238335712934ebb6ec.jpg,gZ0ajXdLw/YHmrpOldVopA==,US,,1494255224 124682054,124683217,2017-05-08 14:54:07,">>124683079 leftists can't meme, thats whats up. btw moon man is right wing, he'd never be a commie fag like you. how dare you deface his legacy.",,Anonymous,Moonman.png,CmNh1b1detcJmtfavvL1Cg==,US,,1494255247 124682054,124683221,2017-05-08 14:54:08,,,Anonymous,0ca684ff5ba213f48a356fbcc5a2354aaa5020d31ee33b6062da651a9ba99d77.jpg,/kQLBtnuoIkJPJxsufXfeQ==,US,,1494255248 124682054,124683288,2017-05-08 14:54:42,">>124683217 stay mad",,Anonymous,2d6830ca14e5b834910f4225a4140953d79469773fc71c2c245e779c0b9e6a98.jpg,muBx1/9NPOG0gGX05Rmy0w==,US,,1494255282 124682054,124683290,2017-05-08 14:54:44,">Not being a Liberal Impirialist Freedom within our borders. Nukes for anyone who tries to fuck with us.",,Anonymous,Evil Ancap 1.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1494255284 124682054,124683320,2017-05-08 14:55:00,,,Anonymous,If-us-land-mass-were-distributed-like-us-wealth.png,K+RzyfZY/YyoS76cVbeCXA==,NL,,1494255300 124682054,124683323,2017-05-08 14:55:02,,,Anonymous,3bb9b961d28845a4c44b436fb2699f84b0ba9a759822c9d73f8c7a8f0e26fd7e.jpg,TbfIi1O9LKtfyug+gYFt7Q==,US,,1494255302 124682054,124683327,2017-05-08 14:55:03,">>124682578 Anarcho-capitalism is libertarianism in it's purest form. The flag fits the occasion",,Anonymous,1490844652609.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,CA,,1494255303 124682054,124683351,2017-05-08 14:55:15,">>124683079 Moon man is a white supremacist symbol, leftist retard",,Anonymous,1486684917928.png,tmcMwdOwYf1JByFf/AtgZw==,GB,,1494255315 124682054,124683369,2017-05-08 14:55:23,,,Anonymous,3bd2f222b4c73fe60856eefa5e5e649f217fe91c677451bd3ba0df03c0fda68d.jpg,/KY5QM5NUZQOhgq/119b5A==,US,,1494255323 124682054,124683445,2017-05-08 14:56:01,">>124683351 your hate fuels me.",,Anonymous,3ea4ed791a25f4fb34e20bf9d4e1d0def723dba232b06e8b458abf455c15e28f.jpg,lDRm9qFqAoHHNqGULJWkmg==,US,,1494255361 124682054,124683446,2017-05-08 14:56:02,">>124683288 >stay mad",,Anonymous,2f7.jpg,7QG+pK/9qNss1l5fm+vnDw==,US,,1494255362 124682054,124683500,2017-05-08 14:56:24,,,Anonymous,17555471_1221870334597598_1062716_n (1).jpg,B6QJP5VjOVtU0O/rX092Sg==,NL,,1494255384 124682054,124683507,2017-05-08 14:56:27,">>124683079 >commie moon man Fucking commies are so pathetic they can't even make their own memes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494255387 124682054,124683523,2017-05-08 14:56:35,">>124683446 nice may may",,Anonymous,7ad5baf5f922b509ed2b7ee9afeb46b1558fd7f14e62cd05f8b0544bc3f6f4c3.jpg,JxM7NatM4lImqhmlF+mHBg==,US,,1494255395 124682054,124683580,2017-05-08 14:57:00,">>124683507 4u",,Anonymous,7fddfac68e61c5b3ec2b717c561fed2f9b8eed37dd30ae3db356bd8dcb9e59ad.jpg,N6r2cUgpPw5fMpPILCYozA==,US,,1494255420 124682054,124683585,2017-05-08 14:57:04,">>124683079 >moonman >leftist meme What the matter, leftynigger? Can't come up with something original that's nearly as amusing as moonman?",,Anonymous,1490454293639.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,CA,,1494255424 124682054,124683600,2017-05-08 14:57:13,>>124683500,,Anonymous,bpuw8sxhjr4y.png,0R57Vo/V/fFC0waf5BMPDQ==,US,,1494255433 124682054,124683613,2017-05-08 14:57:20,,,Anonymous,8d4a8fa1923081fa8ab9a70656a3fbce3300f976fb2944f4fd0de16f447f945c.png,evgkyfblEtsIdHOmCZcdNQ==,US,,1494255440 124682054,124683634,2017-05-08 14:57:27,">>124682578 ancaps allow for voluntary associations of ((libertarians)) but not the other way around",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494255447 124682054,124683645,2017-05-08 14:57:32,">>124683500 >another episode of crony capitalism is capitalism What else is on?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494255452 124682054,124683676,2017-05-08 14:57:49,">>124683445 Leftist tears fuels my helicopter, thanks for bumping the thread.",,Anonymous,1491269217267.jpg,ocsbeXVUkPEvdN0Q85wwOA==,GB,,1494255469 124682054,124683722,2017-05-08 14:58:07,">>124683585 >le gas meme Dumping my entire nazbol folder just for you :)",,Anonymous,025e19ea86442e1dded3ee20fe5fad8e9279f75b4d8e8559c675930d111a0c49.jpg,wuALcuu9kywQMgDETIDmNA==,US,,1494255487 124682054,124683774,2017-05-08 14:58:32,">>124683676 hi",,Anonymous,53ce98c3170ecac95f7f54e437edadfc7321987a9babb84ab0b506e8482d3f6f.png,a6Ve6aQzD2x42707iqYxFA==,US,,1494255512 124682054,124683831,2017-05-08 14:59:04,I love ruining libertardian generals.,,Anonymous,592eb5becef256f22d08009d8985e66e1ff764bfdb1fef23cb7cb6d2d4d2b544.jpg,qoIaYqjWdIFGq4QbA2cFrQ==,US,,1494255544 124682054,124683871,2017-05-08 14:59:19,">>124682769 if national socialsts indoctrinate their people to believing in a seat of power we'll go from hitler to merkel again the next hitler is ancap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494255559 124682054,124683886,2017-05-08 14:59:25,">>124683500 Don't forgeb cancer, syphilis, earthquakes, aids, lion attacks, hurricanes and meteor strikes is caused by le evil capitalism So it's more like 4000000000000 gorillion people a day killed by capitalism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494255565 124682054,124683898,2017-05-08 14:59:29,,,Anonymous,71db7fa26a3704018ca8aa012e19bbbcd8df6f214b6b4104f829486522e38979.png.jpg,DgphFfl6SbExAz5oQVWe8w==,US,,1494255569 124682054,124683949,2017-05-08 14:59:54,,,Anonymous,612faf30c693a150b0c0eaa772d6cf296263ac436b345650077d1357bb233977.png,LulI/y4qH2WJ3LHCXrXIRQ==,US,,1494255594 124682054,124683959,2017-05-08 14:59:59,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsXAznTBIW8,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494255599 124682054,124683997,2017-05-08 15:00:16,,,Anonymous,6355cc7d54e5b634cb84d673f48b0c34463446bfd1f60acb9e8183a5a9260112.png,zfs1qtTg/NEss0xYusH+fA==,US,,1494255616 124682054,124684011,2017-05-08 15:00:25,,,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1494255625 124682054,124684045,2017-05-08 15:00:42,,,Anonymous,8574b551953897efad4f5190d3124bdf2409c218cc01c460d5708f5ad3429ae7.png,iA8Ur4cGw3s2fkPl2fBWYA==,US,,1494255642 124682054,124684089,2017-05-08 15:01:03,,,Anonymous,53125cd82aa045ff35c48b62115e5cf3ee1b27e8b7a1011510d97c8dd6eff67b.jpg,WC637rinuiz4fx8mX74usg==,US,,1494255663 124682054,124684139,2017-05-08 15:01:28,">>124683949 National Bolshevism is literally National Jewery you're a white zionist at best. why serve the jewish ethnostate?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494255688 124682054,124684147,2017-05-08 15:01:31,">>124682578 MASTER RACE, CUNT",,Anonymous,AnCap.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,BR,,1494255691 124682054,124684161,2017-05-08 15:01:34,,,Anonymous,79677a36087f411299dd8a1bad364e7d1a96d0573db5d06ede89000de7b5225e.png,KiWoX545XYd5R1sFl30tcQ==,US,,1494255694 124682054,124684183,2017-05-08 15:01:46,"https://discord.gg/4H94m If you are a white rightwinger",,Anonymous,prenos (1).png,9GR4+d30neUc+QstvPmESQ==,SI,,1494255706 124682054,124684205,2017-05-08 15:01:57,">>124684045 >tfw no Nazi catboi to fuck hard",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494255717 124682054,124684209,2017-05-08 15:02:00,">>124684139 Uh huh.",,Anonymous,9826515a809c50a08d8655245d47dbcde2bf09e6353cfd0cce9e61b2fa126247.jpg,khe1Mfbl9dCuvUQbOqkEaQ==,US,,1494255720 124682054,124684278,2017-05-08 15:02:33,,,Anonymous,10250720c5802d603fb29e339c221fc49e79d3c0f13bde5322ebf95f8e794daa.png,UmeexTFBJ4ndQT3YZTTKQQ==,US,,1494255753 124682054,124684322,2017-05-08 15:02:56,,,Anonymous,18261841794aea03390588cf6ddd748a7be6538d2c1222a97eadf99859657169.jpg,WsZXeurUVKNTFVDXDPVGpA==,US,,1494255776 124682054,124684326,2017-05-08 15:03:01,">>124684209 nice comeback, oven dodger. the jew always recoils like a cuck when called out for what he really is.",,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,US,,1494255781 124682054,124684396,2017-05-08 15:03:31,">>124684326 lel, stay mad, queer.",,Anonymous,1493606933940.jpg,wp2PoCMmeV2srK+igUpHAA==,US,,1494255811 124682054,124684446,2017-05-08 15:03:59,This is a nazbol board now.,,Anonymous,1493616684613.jpg,ZICYXD8zqYaagrA8rAI4gg==,US,,1494255839 124682054,124684447,2017-05-08 15:03:59,">>124682054 >All this nazbol shilling Reminder for those who don't the leader of the nazbol party in russia >In New York, Limonov also discovered another side of the American Dream. After being a celebrated dissident, he lived a poor life due to his low revenues. He managed to afford a room in a miserable hostel and spent time with homeless persons, some of whom he had casual sexual intercourse with, as related in the memoir The Russian Poet Prefers Big Blacks[13] published in France under the title Le poète russe préfère les grands nègres. He then found a job as a butler for a millionaire in the Upper East Side. This period of his life led him to write autobiographical texts, including His Butler's Story.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494255839 124682054,124684471,2017-05-08 15:04:10,">>124682054 Anyone have tips on finding a strong black bull to breed my white wife? We want to fully express our liberties and finally have a black son. Fuck the white race",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494255850 124682054,124684530,2017-05-08 15:04:43,,,Anonymous,1493847846880.jpg,chqtG2A67hSkN1XO1025qQ==,US,,1494255883 124682054,124684563,2017-05-08 15:05:06,,,Anonymous,1493849505008.png,JQkPQQxvBGRI5BVLHCR21Q==,US,,1494255906 124682054,124684575,2017-05-08 15:05:13,">>124683722 kek. These memes are actually pretty funny, but Bolshevism itself is stupid. Consider suicide, leftynigger",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494255913 124682054,124684620,2017-05-08 15:05:36,">>124684471 4u leaf friend.",,Anonymous,1493849832214.png,7tIkn4yhax8aZ6QsCUl9Gg==,US,,1494255936 124682054,124684680,2017-05-08 15:06:07,">>124684575 Thanks!",,Anonymous,1493850526887.jpg,cGZKI2CYn0xY3ut4I7yXDQ==,US,,1494255967 124682054,124684720,2017-05-08 15:06:25,,,Anonymous,1493860695827.jpg,JS+f97M8T7U1OJne9DhOYg==,US,,1494255985 124682054,124684760,2017-05-08 15:06:53,,,Anonymous,1493860721048.jpg,fE/fD6DlxLEnh7O8gyUBRw==,US,,1494256013 124682054,124684815,2017-05-08 15:07:16,,,Anonymous,1494044521330.png,RDPoNUNXapQ5TOM6ghXpDg==,US,,1494256036 124682054,124684852,2017-05-08 15:07:33,">>124684471 Tell that to the nazbol fags",,Anonymous,image.jpg,7c8Oz5H16KbOeTdBIla+Cw==,FR,,1494256053 124682054,124684862,2017-05-08 15:07:38,,,Anonymous,1494204897562.png,yBEwHkFpSaQIYCDLD2XrFw==,US,,1494256058 124682054,124684909,2017-05-08 15:07:56,"How would a Libertarian society handle consensual slavery? If I wanted to become my boyfriends property willingly, would that be allowed?",,Anonymous,Ayumishockedstare.png,5ZkLDOWkG+VPoHdbf6J3yw==,US,,1494256076 124682054,124684922,2017-05-08 15:08:04,,,Anonymous,1494204918792.jpg,8p3dqjowqfZ1BZqbdja26A==,US,,1494256084 124682054,124684948,2017-05-08 15:08:21,">>124684680 I take it back. I meant that for the specific pic itself. The poor quality along with the baby flying saucers is amusing. All communists are subhuman filth",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494256101 124682054,124685012,2017-05-08 15:08:49,">>124684948 Sorry fag, can't take it back now.",,Anonymous,1494204945793.png,2AapCA8uP0gauOqcoLfDHg==,US,,1494256129 124682054,124685029,2017-05-08 15:08:55,">>124684396 stay cucked bitch, NatSoc & Right-Libertarianism forever. No white nationalist would be seen around commie scum like you.",,Anonymous,Pol (2).png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1494256135 124682054,124685119,2017-05-08 15:09:31,">>124685029 mmmmmmm your tears sustain me.",,Anonymous,1494204963813.jpg,LEQeyZ6DnxG6PgxCHNNPGg==,US,,1494256171 124682054,124685176,2017-05-08 15:10:01,,,Anonymous,1494204980987.png,bPVwbbl/ONi+qI4wSFUwqA==,US,,1494256201 124682054,124685224,2017-05-08 15:10:22,,,Anonymous,1494227908237.jpg,3XEvMp9U1dzisVInIeXGvQ==,US,,1494256222 124682054,124685270,2017-05-08 15:10:45,,,Anonymous,alex jones is nazbol.jpg,iet7lhdOSRkjM/bReaQIbw==,US,,1494256245 124682054,124685293,2017-05-08 15:10:56,">Bring arguments >Get them totally destroyed by libertarians >Proceed to rage-spam leftypol memes >Start questioning why investing so much time in sabotaging a thread of people who just want to debate And so another libertarian is conceived.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494256256 124682054,124685314,2017-05-08 15:11:06,,,Anonymous,alt right vs nazbol.jpg,ZbGEbWCIksV3wS9arC1/Pg==,US,,1494256266 124682054,124685344,2017-05-08 15:11:24,">>124684909 please reply ;w;",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494256284 124682054,124685427,2017-05-08 15:11:55,,,Anonymous,c40eda530344609fa2c58aa32398523ef5634b70e0305d05c55efff7272b8e0d.jpg,oTVmmhG157fe2kzKF6x3LQ==,US,,1494256315 124682054,124685463,2017-05-08 15:12:13,">>124685293 Glad we have a new addition to the movement, friend",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494256333 124682054,124685471,2017-05-08 15:12:18,>>124684161,,Anonymous,AnCap x AnCom.png,zPhkGzKPDLEA6j1ymW/VzA==,BR,,1494256338 124682054,124685493,2017-05-08 15:12:26,,,Anonymous,ca287b54f87126d652fe919c16eca43546f12e716d7529b55e84717a3f967376.jpg,YTM3XBNy5/nZ9NUF6UE1fA==,US,,1494256346 124682054,124685567,2017-05-08 15:13:07,">>124685471 >implying I like ancomms Do whatever you want with them.",,Anonymous,C-s0GmyV0AEGXU0.jpg,jRy2xewzzt2NFe/BrOHteQ==,US,,1494256387 124682054,124685592,2017-05-08 15:13:22,">>124685224 why can't leftists convince anyone on the merit of their arguments and always resort to spam and generally disruptive fag teir shit? >>124684909 you can't be someones property, its impossible even if locked in a cage you still own your body. you can agree to do shit for someone with no compensation tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494256402 124682054,124685606,2017-05-08 15:13:27,,,Anonymous,C-X8E4cWsAEAgdf.jpg large.jpg,et6GvrCltFnWa9v1v4btlg==,US,,1494256407 124682054,124685611,2017-05-08 15:13:29,">>124684909 You set the limits of your interactions with other humans, including your refusal to set these limits. How does any society deal with voluntary slavery though? Commissioner going around houses asking if there's any slavery going on?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494256409 124682054,124685647,2017-05-08 15:13:46,">>124683500 Governments, war, personal choices, and hunger are capitalism? The helicopter pilots are right...",,Anonymous,hoppeansnake.png,vScIe6nXOfbjt6T7iwfiGA==,US,,1494256426 124682054,124685657,2017-05-08 15:13:49,">>124682054 >Limonov's works were scandalous for the Russian public, once they began to be published in the USSR during the late perestroika era. Particularly noted is It's Me, Eddie that contained numerous pornographic descriptions of homosexual acts involving the narrator. Explain this nazbol fags",,Anonymous,image.jpg,7LWzETLfbhU2oUblAsWJMg==,FR,,1494256429 124682054,124685677,2017-05-08 15:14:00,">>124685592 >muh not an arugment.",,Anonymous,d6eec39fd23f092bb873bbb21902171da1425d858f882d898a95f62b8c1efd15.jpg,TC8ydwWXJfggpvjfgF0jOA==,US,,1494256440 124682054,124685750,2017-05-08 15:14:34,,,Anonymous,d8bab52c9756db4250363304711b59755db0e8095e8ed613289762d2bed4d3ab.png,5lA5wjLDOuY2zCUej3F2AQ==,US,,1494256474 124682054,124685799,2017-05-08 15:14:56,">>124682054 >Paleolibertarianism ... Political philosophy was a mistake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494256496 124682054,124685801,2017-05-08 15:14:57,,,Anonymous,dugin liberalism.jpg,ixb5mejhis1O4SSKe9AvOA==,US,,1494256497 124682054,124685876,2017-05-08 15:15:27,,,Anonymous,e24b74b1320f39714850445ca1bccde545eec4d3b1715d4b682c94731aae382a.jpg,Ol6Lsv9KBnM5MjL+diJecg==,US,,1494256527 124682054,124685917,2017-05-08 15:15:46,">>124685799 explain",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494256546 124682054,124685926,2017-05-08 15:15:50,,,Anonymous,ee98bce0218270354b9491bbc45d2f014ad359de60fbf53031eeaea29779b001.jpg,SRMxNwxrlu3pMJFW6imLyQ==,US,,1494256550 124682054,124686002,2017-05-08 15:16:31,,,Anonymous,ernst niekisch.jpg,Pzdq6hPImTO8NzpzdmD0UA==,US,,1494256591 124682054,124686057,2017-05-08 15:16:52,,,Anonymous,f22ef89170d2c387bc1d8f91d6c5ab318cd8b3e71278f970cebad8c8079bffb0.jpg,hn5uz21uEkj9gy1Im91xbw==,US,,1494256612 124682054,124686086,2017-05-08 15:17:06,nazi <3 ancap,,revswede,1492689607699.jpg,tVDmvz/CaeHjivMA79ciAw==,SE,,1494256626 124682054,124686104,2017-05-08 15:17:16,,,Anonymous,goebbels.jpg,p2yN2/aqAuS3ZEhvFyGBHA==,US,,1494256636 124682054,124686169,2017-05-08 15:17:42,,,Anonymous,golden one is strasserist.png,wuc7F8lSfjYdp5hLCjinWw==,US,,1494256662 124682054,124686194,2017-05-08 15:17:56,">>124682054 >you see kids that's why i killed commies",,Anonymous,image.jpg,03B/WPC4N9VWMVaXLC0SvQ==,FR,,1494256676 124682054,124686195,2017-05-08 15:17:56,">>124685801 >someone know one has heard of on something no one cares about great quote",,Anonymous,1446592381333.gif,IKUfG5dXVfdoCLuhYAyAdg==,IE,,1494256676 124682054,124686235,2017-05-08 15:18:12,,,Anonymous,j_e.jpg,4bg+mRo5NYBegqZUCR6Atw==,US,,1494256692 124682054,124686292,2017-05-08 15:18:44,">>124686195 4u bebe",,Anonymous,national_bolshevik___strasserist_prop__poster_by_americansfr-dapcq6f.png,nb37olCiNkjo9RAyPUQ+HQ==,US,,1494256724 124682054,124686353,2017-05-08 15:19:13,Hitler was a NazBol,,Anonymous,nazbol has never been tried.jpg,66SU5LK8FFVUD1esZU0FLw==,US,,1494256753 124682054,124686365,2017-05-08 15:19:24,,,revswede,9a1.jpg,hlnJkAtvgoxmGYKpbb9hvA==,SE,,1494256764 124682054,124686419,2017-05-08 15:19:50,,,Anonymous,peron strasserist crew.png,aCYg6h7qRYJMtODOfjZt3A==,US,,1494256790 124682054,124686426,2017-05-08 15:19:53,">>124684909 Metaphysically and logically it is impossible to own another human being. You can't remove ownership over yourself. The results of this chain of logic don't make sense.",,Anonymous,ancapthinking.png,28cLQpYxKTNPNOr26GXcew==,US,,1494256793 124682054,124686485,2017-05-08 15:20:22,/pol/ is a nazbol board.,,Anonymous,pol is nazbol.png,95Q6VGRclLpki3vC4hYCVw==,US,,1494256822 124682054,124686529,2017-05-08 15:20:42,,,Anonymous,quote-the-money-pigs-of-capitalist-democracy-money-has-made-slaves-of-us-money-is-the-curse-joseph-goebbels-134-45-64.jpg,3lSLG68/3jw6V3eXXSHnhw==,US,,1494256842 124682054,124686568,2017-05-08 15:21:05,,,Anonymous,stalin is nazbol.jpg,tLiJ6jQU+HETKgDwK0adNg==,US,,1494256865 124682054,124686608,2017-05-08 15:21:20,">>124685801 >posting a white-hating chinlet who have a beard to hide his disgusting commie face",,Anonymous,image.jpg,iD7nwjGhnbWKuf7hgp6M3w==,FR,,1494256880 124682054,124686629,2017-05-08 15:21:34,,,Anonymous,strasserist crew.jpg,tOQRFX/4xaVZCW67/tBVlQ==,US,,1494256894 124682054,124686640,2017-05-08 15:21:38,,,Anonymous,939c13c90f44f8a6c86f6e90cbbc64b9007a2f959e4824d2372e9ac1fed9d83a.jpg,Tn/GUZKkDMUjI5v/BvaWag==,GB,,1494256898 124682054,124686696,2017-05-08 15:22:10,,,Anonymous,220px-Alceste_de_Ambris_1930.jpg,9stw/Zh6dZk8Ah0frR2FyQ==,GB,,1494256930 124682054,124686737,2017-05-08 15:22:25,">>124686608 lel. feed me more tears faggot. >>124686640 join in the fun nazfriend.",,Anonymous,strasserist march.png,+nbC1ab8+AVHVAs6NawdQw==,US,,1494256945 124682054,124686776,2017-05-08 15:22:47,NAZBOL GANG,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494256967 124682054,124686804,2017-05-08 15:22:58,All this nazposting is making my dick hard.,,Anonymous,strasserist pol logo.png,gfsfomcbT9lRcu+PwQKxYw==,US,,1494256978 124682054,124686816,2017-05-08 15:23:02,">>124686640 Who much nigger dicks ge had swallowed in New York ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494256982 124682054,124686849,2017-05-08 15:23:18,">>124686776 my nigga.",,Anonymous,taylor nazbol.jpg,J0kH4pW79gHsz6mhh5PY+g==,US,,1494256998 124682054,124686886,2017-05-08 15:23:37,,,Anonymous,whats nazbol.jpg,CNai8PPd13V9mIRryu+NVQ==,US,,1494257017 124682054,124686988,2017-05-08 15:24:25,"out of naz memes, guess I'll move on to Jews.",,Anonymous,1zxQ9.gif,PnQsCSVXGfL0h0CykX2OHQ==,US,,1494257065 124682054,124687011,2017-05-08 15:24:35,">>124686737 >spams pics because he can't debate >lel u mad Thanks for bumping",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494257075 124682054,124687070,2017-05-08 15:25:02,">>124687011 >he thinks I'm bumping kek",,Anonymous,3 headed jew christian muslim.png,lY6zCcATkoWcBhiQOv5+bQ==,US,,1494257102 124682054,124687120,2017-05-08 15:25:24,,,Anonymous,4b3c0349a1d73dcb5da1080cd4d2138c.482x600x1.jpg,BM96HGgFe2yc8i1gugZmgw==,US,,1494257124 124682054,124687167,2017-05-08 15:25:45,,,Anonymous,4chan_Wyatt_Mann_parody_Free_Speech.png,CmRpKjZH7Ng5QUgtIk902w==,US,,1494257145 124682054,124687219,2017-05-08 15:26:06,,,Anonymous,97e.png,xHw+y09lvDNcQ2bGavHpLg==,US,,1494257166 124682054,124687222,2017-05-08 15:26:07,">68 posts by this id >only 17 (((You)))s Can you at least post something funny?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257167 124682054,124687276,2017-05-08 15:26:36,">>124685677 you've literally made zero arguments kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257196 124682054,124687287,2017-05-08 15:26:41,,,Anonymous,7796a707e52772945d582c4660469e305a84b78279ee76cbc6f495297720f94e.jpg,EDqUtuZv4dRwW+hs8N/Xxg==,US,,1494257201 124682054,124687302,2017-05-08 15:26:48,">>124686776 Wash my feet kaffir",,Anonymous,image.jpg,YrDvPKgwFoMhKNbPLlCCWg==,FR,,1494257208 124682054,124687473,2017-05-08 15:28:22,">>124687070 >doesn't know sage doesn't work when you post an image. lol, go back to whatever commie hellhole you spawned from.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257302 124682054,124687494,2017-05-08 15:28:29,">>124687276 >not an argument The libertarian mantra.",,Anonymous,1385790068603.png,dgojqHXrUF7DbSooHS3Zgg==,US,,1494257309 124682054,124687563,2017-05-08 15:29:01,">>124687473 No.",,Anonymous,1385800422328.jpg,xjUfLCjZTVcOPJpqonS6Ig==,US,,1494257341 124682054,124687581,2017-05-08 15:29:12,">>124686804 Every nazbol loves men it's normal you are hard right now",,Anonymous,image.jpg,oYDyArJJhn/Ws3jnxUZEuw==,FR,,1494257352 124682054,124687652,2017-05-08 15:29:46,">>124687494 commies can't argue, meme, or refrain from sucking dicks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257386 124682054,124687655,2017-05-08 15:29:46,">>124687581 If that's the case your ass is mine fucc boi.",,killer of lolberts,1386556629474.png,i9H4FBeawB/eooB5U9Bhow==,US,,1494257386 124682054,124687697,2017-05-08 15:30:11,,,killer of lolberts,1386615047303.jpg,0kcjKQ2ipduP9hZJ7YUV6A==,US,,1494257411 124682054,124687734,2017-05-08 15:30:30,,,killer of lolberts,1396636770680.png,fg3AWLBaqGAbK4V2s7raMg==,US,,1494257430 124682054,124687784,2017-05-08 15:30:47,,,killer of lolberts,1415441887492.png,oFaLtpDU97+NVySj77hQTA==,US,,1494257447 124682054,124687817,2017-05-08 15:31:07,,,killer of lolberts,1416623560157.png,tPRNmnBkvN4GkHVxSsYb4Q==,US,,1494257467 124682054,124687851,2017-05-08 15:31:24,,,killer of lolberts,1416844763670.png,/WueSL0EkZ7rN+Y5TRssrg==,US,,1494257484 124682054,124687875,2017-05-08 15:31:41,,,killer of lolberts,1417073594597.jpg,2j2U2NBpFJkj3Ub71J0oIg==,US,,1494257501 124682054,124687905,2017-05-08 15:31:57,">>124687655 You can always try I have invested in BTC",,Anonymous,image.jpg,pgxEOz2cBTG/FaZ+FZau/g==,FR,,1494257517 124682054,124687912,2017-05-08 15:32:00,,,killer of lolberts,1417373459287.gif,vds8tD0vl1mqFaX3enFRWg==,US,,1494257520 124682054,124688027,2017-05-08 15:32:57,">>124687905 Thanks for the meme. I'll use it later.",,killer of lolberts,1419021985042.gif,Ez4EOM4EjcLL/3st6XAMww==,US,,1494257577 124682054,124688075,2017-05-08 15:33:21,,,killer of lolberts,1419949147928.gif,tOJOILrBM9G8JpJmxqQ+4A==,US,,1494257601 124682054,124688128,2017-05-08 15:33:46,What a stupid wipe,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1494257626 124682054,124688130,2017-05-08 15:33:47,,,killer of lolberts,1422229923930.gif,FlwhcKP+AR46DnfNL5u2Ag==,US,,1494257627 124682054,124688149,2017-05-08 15:33:58,"please report this spammer, he is breaking sitewide spamming rules and mods will take his shit down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257638 124682054,124688181,2017-05-08 15:34:11,,,killer of lolberts,1432145589160.gif,inPQwhTJYlOFwQNVWrfOow==,US,,1494257651 124682054,124688232,2017-05-08 15:34:32,,,killer of lolberts,1436607229695.gif,mvBqwvQjTi+v5ccBc+0fSg==,US,,1494257672 124682054,124688282,2017-05-08 15:34:54,,,killer of lolberts,1481547537324.jpg,FSWLh8dcHT5j+JqgAkTy4g==,US,,1494257694 124682054,124688306,2017-05-08 15:35:13,,,killer of lolberts,1483778860928.jpg,v85UMh3fE/FUBZKgofyNHg==,US,,1494257713 124682054,124688336,2017-05-08 15:35:30,,,killer of lolberts,1490122338101.jpg,WQzdm9fOihJD+Surt+HC8g==,US,,1494257730 124682054,124688376,2017-05-08 15:35:48,,,killer of lolberts,1493632881944.png,fKIoAiwrCDDGtG8R5BF26g==,US,,1494257748 124682054,124688407,2017-05-08 15:36:06,,,killer of lolberts,1493678533621.jpg,nV+7Pui6fOVa45NwIOENmg==,US,,1494257766 124682054,124688445,2017-05-08 15:36:24,,,killer of lolberts,1493679942710.jpg,kmogYDnegDGvAv/1sVll6Q==,US,,1494257784 124682054,124688446,2017-05-08 15:36:24,">>124686419 The strassor brothers were trouble causing morons. Read history.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257784 124682054,124688455,2017-05-08 15:36:29,,,Anonymous,whosbehindit.gif,WKXpFVNxEtK9YBW5yVtETQ==,US,,1494257789 124682054,124688491,2017-05-08 15:36:49,">>124688446 Oy Vey!",,killer of lolberts,1493680260266.jpg,eyxF/BcHL1sxaSntPDF0pw==,US,,1494257809 124682054,124688507,2017-05-08 15:36:56,">>124686640 What the hell happened to Hoppe?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257816 124682054,124688542,2017-05-08 15:37:14,,,killer of lolberts,1493680487732.jpg,/MxbqPLKCG5g21z9ItG0vg==,US,,1494257834 124682054,124688560,2017-05-08 15:37:25,">>124682054 This is the animating contest of liberty. We are setting brushfires of liberty in the mind of man across the globe. 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms. It doesnt matter how many lemmings you get out on the streets begging for their guns to be taken. We will NOT relinquish them. Why arent you this woke? State Dept Official: Israel & Saudi Arabia created ISIS with CIA - Dr Steve Pieczenik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfJ0xbXwjw [Embed] Israel is Arming ISIS & AlQaeda to Conquer Syria & Stop Iran Pipeline - Alex Jones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssn27xOBdG0 [Embed] Alex Jones Exposes Jew Control of US Government & 9/11 Mossad Involvement : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUzQ4q-Amk [Embed] Caller Exposes Mossad 9/11 Involvement on Alex Jones Show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKRQDadIjQ [Embed] https://www.infowars.com/dancing-israelis-arrested-on-911-later-sued-the-govt-but-lost-their-case/ https://www.infowars.com/more-israeli-mossad-connections-to-911/ https://www.infowars.com/govt-insider-confirms-israels-role-in-911-attacks/ https://www.infowars.com/us-mossad-played-roles-in-911-event/ https://www.infowars.com/militarization-of-police-in-america-trained-by-mossad/ Israel using AlQaeda to Kill Syrians & Overthrow Assad - Alex Jones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0zt9aCnx14 [Embed] Talmud Judaism is satanism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_zRglOPt7E [Embed]",,Anonymous,1494260556601.jpg,Vv5Q+F4LB77HUx3Z960lVg==,US,,1494257845 124682054,124688571,2017-05-08 15:37:34,">>124688507 communism, not even once.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257854 124682054,124688575,2017-05-08 15:37:35,,,killer of lolberts,1493681017195.jpg,vP2wXr1McAlLPGNur4m9kA==,US,,1494257855 124682054,124688606,2017-05-08 15:37:51,">>124682054 >he is still spamming And this why we can't be friends with natsocs",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494257871 124682054,124688640,2017-05-08 15:38:12,,,killer of lolberts,1493684367888.jpg,ej9D80lgOEl32qcdzfAnHQ==,US,,1494257892 124682054,124688677,2017-05-08 15:38:29,,,killer of lolberts,1493686384449.jpg,2Im4EBf1SMft1s7FLq8XwA==,US,,1494257909 124682054,124688690,2017-05-08 15:38:36,">>124688606 not even NatSocs want him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257916 124682054,124688701,2017-05-08 15:38:41,">>124688507 He sucked a nigger dick in New York slums and became a commie",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494257921 124682054,124688712,2017-05-08 15:38:46,,,killer of lolberts,1493726660665.png,pMThupiEx/lLN+9k3yIEFw==,US,,1494257926 124682054,124688724,2017-05-08 15:38:51,">>124688606 It's just one faggot. He's not even a natsoc. Most of the natsocs that come here have reasonable discussion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494257931 124682054,124688756,2017-05-08 15:39:08,,,killer of lolberts,1493726805487.jpg,gNKAL/5WBNXZnvrOvZQ9hA==,US,,1494257948 124682054,124688793,2017-05-08 15:39:28,,,killer of lolberts,1493743386977.gif,Ld56vLf6CuSjgZR2Ir+suQ==,US,,1494257968 124682054,124688826,2017-05-08 15:39:46,,,killer of lolberts,1493828047413.png,hu0jhSqMukG/NWhO4o6RKg==,US,,1494257986 124682054,124688890,2017-05-08 15:40:17,">>124688826 lol I thought trump was a nazbol, I guess you are the kikes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494258017 124682054,124688893,2017-05-08 15:40:17,,,killer of lolberts,1493854065433.png,K8gVdAYJVzNND/TW3sFTfA==,US,,1494258017 124682054,124688935,2017-05-08 15:40:36,">>124682054 What's the difference between state tyranny and private tyranny for the ordinary man? I don't care about special snowflakes ""muh property"" etc. I care about the folk. So if you want to argue that your ideology is better for you, then that's okay just be honest about it.",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494258036 124682054,124688954,2017-05-08 15:40:48,">>124685592 >why can't leftists convince anyone on the merit of their arguments and always resort to spam and generally disruptive fag teir shit? holy shit dude do you know where you are",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1494258048 124682054,124688979,2017-05-08 15:41:00,">>124688890 >he thinks there's rhyme or reason to my shitposting You are truly naive my son.",,killer of lolberts,1493945991879.png,Df4420UxEuEAvrHI8BwefA==,US,,1494258060 124682054,124689013,2017-05-08 15:41:21,">>124688724 Do You have a Time machine ? We need to kill this cunt",,Anonymous,image.jpg,A5z5cq/O5DvWGn17J5Sw7w==,FR,,1494258081 124682054,124689063,2017-05-08 15:41:46,,,killer of lolberts,1493946017756.png,TlzffdAdhgFqZsF14XeanA==,US,,1494258106 124682054,124689109,2017-05-08 15:42:08,,,killer of lolberts,1493946060183.png,/TT1pyxzXKEMTaxU2Cny0w==,US,,1494258128 124682054,124689177,2017-05-08 15:42:25,,,killer of lolberts,1493986432080.jpg,tVcj0T5ShGsiEx9e1LRJqA==,US,,1494258145 124682054,124689189,2017-05-08 15:42:29,">>124688935 The state get you to jail The entreprise don't get your cash",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494258149 124682054,124689217,2017-05-08 15:42:44,,,killer of lolberts,1494009906920.png,9dgtrXkxOsy2Dw6br8XjYA==,US,,1494258164 124682054,124689250,2017-05-08 15:43:05,,,killer of lolberts,1494010087344.gif,+2nnpW04Hv5olqWvAZCnzQ==,US,,1494258185 124682054,124689288,2017-05-08 15:43:27,,,killer of lolberts,1494113832280.jpg,FL2tt1OiD7EUoJLz7Sxeew==,US,,1494258207 124682054,124689329,2017-05-08 15:43:48,,,killer of lolberts,1494114220758.jpg,Rf2Ogvc0nZgIcJkRHyJ65w==,US,,1494258228 124682054,124689378,2017-05-08 15:44:11,,,killer of lolberts,1494114377461.jpg,1kUxye3vWujAvorKvLk8/g==,US,,1494258251 124682054,124689493,2017-05-08 15:45:17,Seems mods did their job?,,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494258317 124682054,124689529,2017-05-08 15:45:32,">>124689189 And what stops a rich man in a libertarian/Anarcho Capitalist society from putting me in his cellar and raping me daily? Private armies etc.",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494258332 124682054,124689558,2017-05-08 15:45:47,">>124682054 Was Hitler an Evolutionist? >>124686946 >>124686946 >>124686946 >>124686946 >>124686946 >>124686946",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494258347 124682054,124689588,2017-05-08 15:45:59,">>124682054 >/lrg/ was a mistake Well at least we can hoppe (badum tss) His folder would be soon empty",,Anonymous,image.jpg,OYWDugkCClh+yQ5Ehtd1ww==,FR,,1494258359 124682054,124689984,2017-05-08 15:49:41,">>124682054 Well he seems to have stopped Let's look at our compass",,Anonymous,image.jpg,SAZxzmB/LpqzKofMvYs0SA==,FR,,1494258581 124682054,124690189,2017-05-08 15:51:20,">>124682578 I don't know what the minarchist flag is.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494258680 124682054,124690220,2017-05-08 15:51:41,is the coast clear?,,Anonymous,LIVE_fREE_OR_DIE.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,US,,1494258701 124682054,124690456,2017-05-08 15:53:46,">>124689984 yeah he must've been banned i reported a shit ton of his posts, reload the page all his posts are gone. btw heres me.",,Anonymous,spekr.png,+6sVUhK85QA1d7LwtKkZjQ==,US,,1494258826 124682054,124690683,2017-05-08 15:55:40,,,revswede,when-people-joke-about-ancap-being-like-the-hunger-games-12888936.png,gwV9hBOnSIvMvkqnadGcVg==,SE,,1494258940 124682054,124690773,2017-05-08 15:56:34,">>124690683 >ifunny Sweden is truly lost...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494258994 124682054,124690844,2017-05-08 15:57:07,,,Anonymous,RPV19Q4LN1KlFo8PK732zajI2wuGMz6kfPIsGakF37I.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,US,,1494259027 124682054,124690847,2017-05-08 15:57:08,,,Anonymous,quibheinleinlifegirl.jpg,QWvJr8PzsapHiLFq4PNG/w==,GB,,1494259028 124682054,124690946,2017-05-08 15:57:55,,,Anonymous,1486258936401.jpg,WcZ0TAoWqb+0VprInC2z9g==,GB,,1494259075 124682054,124691276,2017-05-08 16:00:57,">>124689529 security insurence",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494259257 124682054,124691472,2017-05-08 16:02:38,">>124691276 What stops a super rich man from buying my security insurance, then kidnapping me and raping me daily in is cellar?",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494259358 124682054,124691540,2017-05-08 16:03:11,">>124691472 YOU if you're not a cuck....",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494259391 124682054,124691548,2017-05-08 16:03:16,">>124682054 The shitposter was banned Private law enforcement work",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ZzsML+TO87g6eqFAlF11qA==,FR,,1494259396 124682054,124691656,2017-05-08 16:04:13,">>124691472 You can have guns you know...",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494259453 124682054,124691675,2017-05-08 16:04:22,,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494259462 124682054,124692000,2017-05-08 16:07:16,">>124691540 So back to my original question: What is the difference between State tyranny and private tyranny? Btw being a cuck implies this is something I want, I don't want to be cucked by the rich. >>124691656 I'm an average person with an average amount of skill and capacity. The rich person has his own private army with the newest weapons.",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494259636 124682054,124692224,2017-05-08 16:09:06,">>124691472 >wow look at this hyper unrealistic scenario where i win the argument If a rich man today wants to do that, he's going to find a way to do that. In fact it might even be easier for him now because the state only ever fucks over the non elites. Also whites aren't niggers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494259746 124682054,124692348,2017-05-08 16:10:15,">>124692000 The difference between state tyranny and private tyranny is that a state answers to no one and a private entity answers to everyone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494259815 124682054,124692545,2017-05-08 16:12:04,">>124692000 Yes tyranny is tyranny either way, but I would say that it's up to you to be responsible to defend yourself no matter which tyranny is in place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494259924 124682054,124692630,2017-05-08 16:12:49,">>124691472 >yeah but what if i have the entire us military at my disposal and ancapistan is still in the stone age? ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494259969 124682054,124692733,2017-05-08 16:13:40,">>124692000 There would be people (family,friends) with other security insurerd who would drag The rich guy in trial And if he refuses to go to The trial,he would have to face war with everyone,which is a waste of time and money for raping your blonde ass",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494260020 124682054,124693126,2017-05-08 16:17:01,">>124691472 >What stops a super rich man from buying my security insurance, then kidnapping me and raping me daily in is cellar? >why isn't ancapistan a place where crime doesn't happen? I'm a minarchist, incidentally, but these kinds of ""arguments"" are really starting to be tiring.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494260221 124682054,124693256,2017-05-08 16:18:01,>Tfw NEET but Libertarian,,Anonymous,neetnucklear.png,lHitcD0cB+EiahIhLw0k0A==,US,,1494260281 124682054,124693593,2017-05-08 16:20:49,">>124693256 Careful now, you might get domesticated as a consumer good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494260449 124682054,124693730,2017-05-08 16:21:58,Nope. Fuck nazis.,,You Lose.,84287179.jpg,ZxQxy51GQHaUX3tN0NPuCw==,US,,1494260518 124682054,124693797,2017-05-08 16:22:26,">>124692224 >the state only ever fucks over the non elites. You don't get my point, and that's not completly true. Many governments hold big Corporations back to a degree. In an anarcho-Capitalist society, the big Capitalists become the state. Even worse than the previous one that had elections, and semi-representation/politicians somewhat dependent on popular support. There is no reason that big capitalists in an anarcho capitalist society wouldn't become just as tyrannic, probably more, in a society without a some force holding them in a leash. >>124692348 >The difference between state tyranny and private tyranny is that a state answers to no one and a private entity answers to everyone. Elaborate >but I would say that it's up to you to be responsible to defend yourself no matter which tyranny is in place. And in my book, a Anarcho-Capitalist society would be more tyrannic towards the average man than one ruled by politicians, even if the politicians are again ruled by the rich. There is an institution holding back power. >>124692630 Ok >>124692733 Trial? There will be courts? Who will pay for them? And who is going to go to war against the rich kidnapping rapist, for my blond ass again? Highly unlikely. The average person is not going to have any money or know any rich powerful people. >>124693126 >but these kinds of ""arguments"" are really starting to be tiring. Because you can't give a proper answer? To me the whole idea of an unregulated market with a non-existent/almost non-existent state will somehow lead to a better world for the average man absurd.",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494260546 124682054,124693809,2017-05-08 16:22:33,"Based mods digitally removing commies. Here's a Hoppe.",,Anonymous,1475621880071.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1494260553 124682054,124693967,2017-05-08 16:23:45,">>124691472 Why do you try to come up with unrealistic lifeboat situations instead of making concise arguments?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494260625 124682054,124694018,2017-05-08 16:24:05,">>124693797 >Trial? There will be courts? Who will pay for them? Oh god I have to explain The machinery of freedom again",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494260645 124682054,124694282,2017-05-08 16:26:04,">>124693967 It should be called The god fallacy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494260764 124682054,124694337,2017-05-08 16:26:35,">>124693730 >Libertarians are nazis",,Anonymous,boi.jpg,7A2SPMeAd3XhPSkPdGXV5w==,US,,1494260795 124682054,124694425,2017-05-08 16:27:15,">>124693797 >Because you can't give a proper answer? Because crimeless societies don't fucking exist and so to say ""hmmm there might be crimes in ancapistan"" as if it was an argument against ancaps specifically is fucking retarded. That's some *tip fedora* tier argument right there.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494260835 124682054,124694532,2017-05-08 16:28:18,How do you argue against socialists re: state healthcare system like NHS?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494260898 124682054,124694545,2017-05-08 16:28:22,">>124694018 yes",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494260902 124682054,124694678,2017-05-08 16:29:30,">>124693797 >You don't get my point, and that's not completly true. Many governments hold big Corporations back to a degree. The fact that a ""corporation"" exists in the first place is due to the state. This illusion that the government does anything against corporate interest is just that, an illusion. In reality they get slaps on the wrist while they continue making it impossible for anyone else to top then using the power of the state. >In an anarcho-Capitalist society, the big Capitalists become the state. Even worse than the previous one that had elections, and semi-representation/politicians somewhat dependent on popular support. The reason that politicians somewhat answer to us in the USA is because we have guns, and they are actively trying to remove this leverage with the power of the state. >There is no reason that big capitalists in an anarcho capitalist society wouldn't become just as tyrannic, probably more, in a society without a some force holding them in a leash. That force is you, with your resources as your voting power, and your weapons ready to defend your private property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494260970 124682054,124694681,2017-05-08 16:29:33,">>124683320 >TFW US land mass/population is divided like that.",,Anonymous,pop_map_spikes.jpg,tpd8166TGcHPdjClTec1bQ==,US,,1494260973 124682054,124695103,2017-05-08 16:33:30,">>124693797 >Elaborate A state doesn't have to answer to anybody because it has a monopoly on force with the military and the police, anyone who sucks up to the state or buys it out has that monopoly on force at it's disposal. A private entity answers to everyone because everyone can hold it accountable because there is no monopoly on force. >And in my book, a Anarcho-Capitalist society would be more tyrannic towards the average man than one ruled by politicians, even if the politicians are again ruled by the rich. There is an institution holding back power. That makes no sense. In my book unicorns are real, still doesn't make it an argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494261210 124682054,124695152,2017-05-08 16:33:57,">>124693730 >non-sequitur >2006-era reaction image",,Anonymous,Event_1524.jpg,Gcj4MgwABEmpd+XDtgj9ew==,US,,1494261237 124682054,124695194,2017-05-08 16:34:23,">>124694425 Wow Did I say crimeless societies exist? Are you saying the current states of the world are completly uneffective in preventing criminals from hurting the average man? *tips fedora* (btw all fedoras I have met have been lolberts) >>124694678 >The fact that a ""corporation"" exists in the first place is due to the state. What would prevent a corportation forming in an Anarcho-Capitalist society? >This illusion that the government does anything against corporate interest is just that False, some governments, relatively few, but some do go against the interests of large corporations. How is this relevant again? There will be corporations in an Anarcho-Capitalist society. >making it impossible for anyone else to top Again what will prevent rich people from banding together to prevent new rich people from coming up to match their power? >The reason that politicians somewhat answer to us in the USA is because we have guns They do that somewhat in Europe too, in countries with little guns. >That force is you, with your resources as your voting power, and your weapons ready to defend your private property. How can I compete against a billionaire with a private army though? Who is going to defend me or my family of average Joes?",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494261263 124682054,124695247,2017-05-08 16:35:00,">>124694532 You live in the UK mate? Clearly, you know that the NHS is an absolute piece of dogshit as well as me then. Simply, you inform the socialist the reason for this is because of a monopoly (they won't actually acknowledge this, because they're a retarded leftist, but you tried, right?)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494261300 124682054,124695501,2017-05-08 16:37:24,>>124682054,,Anonymous,image.jpg,QwXbS/+vfxh98vwY1pUK/w==,CA,,1494261444 124682054,124695517,2017-05-08 16:37:35,">>124695103 >everyone can hold it accountable because there is no monopoly on force. Hold up A super rich guy with his own superior army is pretty much like a fucking monopoly though. >That makes no sense. In my book as in how I logically imagine things playing out in an Anarcho-Capitalist society.",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494261455 124682054,124695593,2017-05-08 16:38:12,">>124694545 First Yes there would be privatized courts,with judges and attorneys Second During a trial,The two owners would recruit a judge because they would be wasting cash for killing eachothers Third When The case is closed The losing CEO lose his post because his actionaries wouldn't wanting a criminal as a boss",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494261492 124682054,124695887,2017-05-08 16:40:55,">>124695194 >Did I say crimeless societies exist? Your argument implies that since there is crime in ancapistan, ancapistan is invalid. >what's to prevent this guy from raping you? checkmate ancap Just fucking be better. Look at this stupid fucking argument: >Again what will prevent rich people from banding together to prevent new rich people from coming up to match their power? Gee. If that's an argument against ancapistan, let me use this amazing other argument: >what's to prevent several giga corporation from lobbying the government and get state power of their side? If your argument form is so wide that it discredits all systems then it's fucking idiotic.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494261655 124682054,124695911,2017-05-08 16:41:08,">>124695593 >Yes there would be privatized courts,with judges and attorneys Who is jury?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494261668 124682054,124696154,2017-05-08 16:43:24,">>124695194 >What would prevent a corportation forming in an Anarcho-Capitalist society? A corporation needs a centralized legal system to even exist because a corporation is just the government pretending that a name or brand is a legal entity AKA a person. A ""corporation"" only exists to shift accountability off of the people responsible and onto some abstract entity. Without a centralized legal system to recognize a corporation, it effectively does not exist. False, some governments, relatively few, but some do go against the interests of large corporations. How is this relevant again? There will be corporations in an Anarcho-Capitalist society. As long as there is a state to buy power from, they will do so. Corporations cannot exist without a state see above. >Again what will prevent rich people from banding together to prevent new rich people from coming up to match their power? You not buying their shit. Money doesn't grow on trees they need people to buy their products and services. Without a government to leverage their losses against, they will have to answer to the market, which is a majority comprised of average Joes. >How can I compete against a billionaire with a private army though? Who is going to defend me or my family of average Joes? Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. These wars were won by average Joes with shitty weapons. The rich aren't going to carpet bomb us or nuke us because they NEED us for labor and resources. You can't have a police state without police and it's not going to be an effective police state if every single door they kick in potentially has a firearm behind it ready to shoot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494261804 124682054,124696235,2017-05-08 16:44:14,">>124695911 They would pay guys in exchange of joining The jury Or they would be joining it voluntarely like >hey dude in Few weeks we have a case where a rich guy raped a nord,join The jury and register to http://we_love_cash_and_dramas.com",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494261854 124682054,124696286,2017-05-08 16:44:37,">>124695887 >what's to prevent several giga corporation from lobbying the government and get state power of their side? 1. You didn't actually answer his question 2. Plenty of countries have laws against lobbying.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494261877 124682054,124696313,2017-05-08 16:44:50,">>124695517 This is a common objection, basically the 'warlords' question, see https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over For more read Freidmans Machinery of freedom, or Hoppes Private production of defence",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494261890 124682054,124696483,2017-05-08 16:46:26,since antifa has formed a militia we should form our own militias.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494261986 124682054,124696587,2017-05-08 16:47:21,">>124696483 Agreed",,Anonymous,RWDSwave.png,lAJp3EspWKKcaoSIc3mMBg==,US,,1494262041 124682054,124696649,2017-05-08 16:47:54,">>124696286 Oh okay. What's to prevent someone from raping you in non-ancapistan? Checkmate, statists.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494262074 124682054,124696886,2017-05-08 16:49:58,">>124696649 >Inb4 using the child raping satanic cult government to prevent rape.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494262198 124682054,124697017,2017-05-08 16:51:03,">>124695517 >Hold up >A super rich guy with his own superior army is pretty much like a fucking monopoly though. No it isn't. See Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. That's how things would go if a rich guy tried to wage war on the common man. The only way they can prevent this is by taking away our guns. >In my book as in how I logically imagine things playing out in an Anarcho-Capitalist society. Sure, but that's subjective. Your original statement didn't make sense logically. >>124696649 Police :^)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494262263 124682054,124697216,2017-05-08 16:52:52,">>124690189 This. And in my opinion, ancaps get the bullet too.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494262372 124682054,124697341,2017-05-08 16:54:06,">>124695593 Sorry but that is the most retarded thing I have ever read Who decides the outcome of the case again? This sounds completely surreal. How can anyone belive that this will work in real life? >>124695887 >Your argument implies that since there is crime in ancapistan, ancapistan is invalid. No, it didn't imply that. Especially the argument you now refused to answer on because you couldn't. >Just fucking be better. What if I'm not, should he be allowed to kidnap me and rape me daily? >If your argument form is so wide that it discredits all systems then it's fucking idiotic. It's you that simply lack reading comprehension in your own language. To me, if there is crime in a society, it doesn't discredit the culture/race/ideology etc. behind that society - but if it's relatively more crime in that society, it does. I stated earlier that to me, the ""legitimate"" ideology or power structure or whatever is what is the best for as many people as possible. You can be egoistic and advocate for a system that benefits you, I'm not alturistic or anything, I'm simply looking for what is right and what is wrong. Lolbertarianism is clearly wrong.",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494262446 124682054,124697392,2017-05-08 16:54:36,Capitalism is the best system devised by mankind. Statists will argue it needs to be tamed and regulated. We must physically remove these people,,Anonymous,1494196704267.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,CA,,1494262476 124682054,124697401,2017-05-08 16:54:41,">>124697017 >police Then why pic related is still not in jail",,Anonymous,image.jpg,0NreTC2tV+9KkgdzDWQf+g==,FR,,1494262481 124682054,124697409,2017-05-08 16:54:45,">>124697216 German cuck AND an antifa? Sounds like you could use a helicopter ride.",,Anonymous,Ancapistan.png,k8PxL2s8njELzZSJTCdA7g==,US,,1494262485 124682054,124697591,2017-05-08 16:56:12,">>124697341 >Who decides the outcome of the case again ? The judge ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494262572 124682054,124697597,2017-05-08 16:56:14,">>124697401 I was being facetious.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494262574 124682054,124697649,2017-05-08 16:56:44,">>124697409 I'm for a Night-watchman state and not a antifa.",,Anonymous,1488243937571.jpg,V57tJ26geiR1LgySYdXQmw==,DE,,1494262604 124682054,124697697,2017-05-08 16:57:08,What was that guy shitposting??? Someone tell me pls,,Anonymous,,,HR,,1494262628 124682054,124697764,2017-05-08 16:57:46,">>124697017 >Police :^) And as we know, police forces prevent all rapes in every country. There is no rape in the US. >>124697341 >libertarians are wrong because of an argument that can be used against all system Top notch reasoning. Come back to us when you realize your argument discredits everything.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494262666 124682054,124698018,2017-05-08 16:59:54,">>124697764 >Police can't prevent all crimes >Therefore there should be no police at all Really gets the gears spinning.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494262794 124682054,124698061,2017-05-08 17:00:17,">be a cucktarian my entire adult life >supported gary johnson 2012 >finally realize the pointlessness of doing mental gymnastics to justify a government at all >become ancap >this gets me interested in capitalism and making money >listen to true capitalist radio >been going on /biz/ the past couple months >already made close to 1000 bucks trading crypto >mfw",,Anonymous,1489185421701.jpg,Z087AZX8nRlvVg3TatpArg==,US,,1494262817 124682054,124698094,2017-05-08 17:00:31,">>124697649 Alright then, what is your problem with ancaps? Speaking as a minarchist myself, I can sympathize with their ideas, I just don't think security nor safety can be demoted to private goods. I can't imagine any ancaps putting up a fuss in that kind of a state, especially considering their preference for debate over violence.",,Anonymous,lrgirl.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1494262831 124682054,124698189,2017-05-08 17:01:22,">>124682054 Real libertarians would argue for a Land Value Tax as a replacement for all others",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1494262882 124682054,124698269,2017-05-08 17:02:08,">>124698018 >not realizing I'm using your own argument against you",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494262928 124682054,124698271,2017-05-08 17:02:08,">>124697697 Most likely a butthurt natsoc false flagging as a butthurt leftist. He spammed this thread with really shitty nazbol memes and some old Jew memes then he got b& for being a faggot. >>124698018 More like the police should not have a monopoly on justice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494262928 124682054,124698274,2017-05-08 17:02:13,">>124698061 Atta boy, keep it up. It's smart to have multiple sources of income",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494262933 124682054,124698336,2017-05-08 17:02:48,">>124697597 Well it's time to présent you this guy (((Daniel Cohn-Bendit))) is a main actor of may 68,he was a green politician from the european parliament,pro-EU federalism,and a Macron supporter Buuuuuut he is also a legit paedo who admitted it on TV and never got charged Still like statism",,Anonymous,image.jpg,QM+H2KurKcps/c6MVuMMUQ==,FR,,1494262968 124682054,124698361,2017-05-08 17:03:00,">>124698094 >Minarchists generally justify the state on the grounds that it is the logical consequence of adhering to the non-aggression principle. >They argue that anarchism is impractical because it is not sufficient to enforce the non-aggression principle. >They argue that this is because the enforcement of laws under anarchism is open to competition.",,Anonymous,1484682807002.jpg,X5L1oHpapg1SPGUTE/hCtw==,DE,,1494262980 124682054,124698465,2017-05-08 17:03:54,give one libertarian solution to what ike is talking about,,Anonymous,quote-we-must-guard-against-the-acquisition-of-unwarranted-influence-whether-sought-or-unsought-by-the-dwight-d-eisenhower-56601.jpg,5ltkI2nMsx2RoRDo/Phx4Q==,US,,1494263034 124682054,124698688,2017-05-08 17:06:09,">>124682054 You're not Libertarian. You don't believe in liberty; you believe in everyone doing what you want. That's called fascism. Stop co-optiong the word and call it what it is: fascist bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494263169 124682054,124698822,2017-05-08 17:07:24,">>124682054 The right wing of the LP isnt hopelessly lost; come home liberty lovers",,Anonymous,adamsmithisageoist.jpg,JUWppajMdiB5mV3ofkxBVg==,US,,1494263244 124682054,124698881,2017-05-08 17:07:53,">>124698688 Wat",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494263273 124682054,124698998,2017-05-08 17:08:47,>>124698688,,Anonymous,trcbait.png,h8NZd2U9En5rEkk6fvfuxQ==,US,,1494263327 124682054,124699064,2017-05-08 17:09:20,">>124698688 What an utterly foolish statement. By that logic, liberty is impossible. If I want everyone doing what they want, them doing what they want is doing what I want, which by your logic means they are in fact under a facist system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494263360 124682054,124699066,2017-05-08 17:09:20,">>124696154 What is a group of people that have a massive amount of wealth that works together to produce, ship and sell goods? This will happen in an ancap society too. Simply because it gives more profit. When nothing holds back, what gives the most profit will triumph. >As long as there is a state to buy power from, they will do so. Corporations will naturally form in an modern, industrialist Anarcho-Capitalist society. How you are not seeing that is beyong me. >You not buying their shit. The average person would buy as cheap as possibly for the quality they want. The ones that can produce the cheapest (in relation to quality) goods will just like today become the largest. Your system basically only functions when all people are saints. >The rich aren't going to carpet bomb us or nuke us because they NEED us for labor and resources. No, but they are going to target organizers and don't give work to people that are organized just like today just in a much larger scale as there is no security net for the workers that strike. >single door they kick in potentially has a firearm behind it ready to shoot. I'm not against firearms. >>124697017 >That's how things would go Millions of people dead, hurt, displaced or in other ways severly affected? >Sure, but that's subjective. True. >Your original statement didn't make sense logically. What was my original statement, that didn't make sense logically? >>124697591 Why would the judge be fair towards me, when the rich guy can pay him much more if he judges in his favour? Are you a troll pretending to be an AnCap? If so, stop wasting my time. >>124697764 >top notch reasoning. Come back to us when you realize your argument discredits everything. You lack reading comprehension. I never said or implied that ""because a rich man can kidnap me in Ancapistan, it's a shitty system"", or anything like that.",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494263360 124682054,124699162,2017-05-08 17:10:02,">>124698688 They dont understand what property rights actually are and they confuse state and common land",,Anonymous,commonvsstateprop.jpg,2HUhFgaPW/aBdZC7xmFcDg==,US,,1494263402 124682054,124699247,2017-05-08 17:10:51,>>124698688,,Anonymous,no-step-on-fesh.jpg,h+BJ8Gu5jg+oCXw1qVb2Hw==,US,,1494263451 124682054,124699374,2017-05-08 17:11:54,"The state uses violence to achieve its ends, and there is no rational end to the use of violence, states grow until they destroy civilized interactions through the corruption of money, contracts, honesty, family and self-reliance. We AnCaps believe all forms of state must be avoided for society to flourish. No state in history has ever been contained. It’s only taken a little more than a century for the USA – founded on the idea of limited government, to break the bonds of the constitution, institute the income tax, take control of the money supply and the educational system, and begin its catastrophic expansion. States are always doomed to fail, and must be avoided at all costs.",,Anonymous,1494255890866.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,CA,,1494263514 124682054,124699774,2017-05-08 17:15:10,">>124699066 >Why would the judge be fair towards me, when the rich guy can pay him much more if he judges in his favour? For the same reasons your baker doesn't sell to you rotten bread,you aren't his only client And your defender are other private companies confronting your rapist,not you,they are enough rich to defend your ass",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494263710 124682054,124700049,2017-05-08 17:17:33,">>124699774 Another important question. In many countries, the government is legally obligated to provide a defendant with a lawyer if he cannot afford one himself. How would an ancap society handle this? If the defendant doesn't have his own lawyer, how does he get one?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494263853 124682054,124700093,2017-05-08 17:17:59,">>124699066 >I never said or implied that ""because a rich man can kidnap me in Ancapistan, it's a shitty system"", or anything like that. >What stops a super rich man from buying my security insurance, then kidnapping me and raping me daily in is cellar? Which is pretty much another way of saying ""what's to stop a rich guy from violating the nap"", i.e. committing a crime. By exactly the same token, I can say ""what's to stop a government from getting bought up by corporation so as to expropriate you with imminent domain laws"", at which point I've just ""destroyed"" statism. (Incidentally, if a rich guy buys one private security firm, you still have guns and you still can go to another private firms, whereas when a firm buys the government you have no where to run.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494263879 124682054,124700515,2017-05-08 17:21:42,">>124700049 > If the defendant doesn't have his own lawyer, how does he get one? Any insurence you joined would profit from this case if they won The trial,they would afford your lawyer",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494264102 124682054,124700756,2017-05-08 17:23:42,">>124684909 I remember that antifa fag that punched Spencer was owned by a dom named Mistress Mandy; she had some website or posts where her services include slave contracts that can be 1 year, 5 years or ""indefinite"" The dude had apparently faked his death to be a full time gimp from Pulp Fiction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494264222 124682054,124700923,2017-05-08 17:25:00,">>124699066 >What is a group of people that have a massive amount of wealth that works together to produce, ship and sell goods? This will happen in an ancap society too. Simply because it gives more profit. When nothing holds back, what gives the most profit will triumph. .The difference is that instead of having a state shift accountability off of them, every action they do is accountable to them and not some abstract entity that doesn't actually exist. >Corporations will naturally form in an modern, industrialist Anarcho-Capitalist society. How you are not seeing that is beyong me. Empirically false, a corporation by definition requires a state to exist. I think you might want to use a different term to describe what you're talking about. >No, but they are going to target organizers and don't give work to people that are organized just like today just in a much larger scale as there is no security net for the workers that strike. The only reason workers striking failed anywhere was because the corporations made the state break it up by force. >Millions of people dead, hurt, displaced or in other ways severly affected? In other words a huge loss for both, but more so the big guys than the average Joe. No one is going to be willing to pull something like that again because although it may kill some of us, they will always have to expend more than us either in man power or in resources. >What was my original statement, that didn't make sense logically? >>And in my book, a Anarcho-Capitalist society would be more tyrannic towards the average man than one ruled by politicians, even if the politicians are again ruled by the rich. There is an institution holding back power. This basically states that an ancap society is more tyrannical because it is. It's a circular argument. If the government is ruled by the rich they aren't really doing anything to hold back the rich as evidenced at least in the USA by how we treat our mega corporations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494264300 124682054,124701141,2017-05-08 17:26:53,">>124700923 >If the government is ruled by the rich To some extent. But the rich also have to pay more taxes than anybody else, so it all evens out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494264413 124682054,124701341,2017-05-08 17:28:37,">>124699374 Civilization is built on violence.",,Anonymous,IMG_20170507_171617.jpg,Xtzc4AHYyuEawKlZSh3o8w==,US,,1494264517 124682054,124701351,2017-05-08 17:28:41,>>124684471,,Anonymous,1489424556961.png,+wtLg1qLNKp7+3v0xzAdaA==,US,,1494264521 124682054,124701437,2017-05-08 17:29:27,"thoughts about this >>124700993 ? it's how I pretty much feel about net neutraltiy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494264567 124682054,124701459,2017-05-08 17:29:38,">>124699774 The baker doesn't sell me rotten bread because he wants me to come back. You are relying on the moral of the judge in such an absurd scenario as a private court. And why would the criminal agree to use a moral judge? The rich criminal would buy a judge that would judge in his favour. If he couldn't he would refuse trail. >And your defender are other private companies confronting your rapist Why would they defend me? Again you are depending on good moral, but what if the criminal doesn't show up? >>124700093 >What's to stop a government from getting bought up A system and hierarchy of people that all depend on one another, people with different sets of moral that reflects society to A DEGREE. Representative democracy is never going to be democratic or some ""utopia"". Everything is relative. Obstacles to pass through for the large corporations.",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494264578 124682054,124701481,2017-05-08 17:29:48,">>124701141 They honestly don't pay more taxes. They just get the government to write loopholes that takes a legal team of 200 to figure out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494264588 124682054,124701590,2017-05-08 17:30:33,"Somalia, an-cap paradise :D",,Anonymous,somalia.png,VCxknfoqcceUn1KZfDjjXw==,ES,,1494264633 124682054,124701698,2017-05-08 17:31:25,">>124701590 >niggers being niggers Really makes you think.",,Anonymous,thinkinghard.gif,4VGRdSZt28DLzlj5Xn4VvQ==,US,,1494264685 124682054,124701982,2017-05-08 17:33:38,"Guys, i need some based libertarian wallpaper. pls halp",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494264818 124682054,124702167,2017-05-08 17:35:03,">>124700923 1. Before we go any further on that topic, what is a corporation to you? 2. >In other words a huge loss for both, but more so the big guys than the average Joe. Being killed in the millions is better than losing some money? >This basically states that an ancap society is more tyrannical because it is. No, it basically states that I believe that a government can function as an obstacle to corporations and powerful individuals that want to harm lesser individuals. >If the government is ruled by the rich they aren't really doing anything to hold back the rich False. The rich got to balance their power because their puppet government needs legitimacy. The Norwegian government with the Swiss, Danish, Finnish etc. is a large obstacle to big corporations.",,Lolbertarian,,,NO,,1494264903 124682054,124702285,2017-05-08 17:36:02,">>124701590 >multiple VIOLENT factions in perpetual war with another unable to control the whole >libertarian paradise >in niggerland no less don't you have something else to procrastinate about, Jaun",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494264962 124682054,124702405,2017-05-08 17:37:01,">>124701459 >Obstacles to pass through for the large corporations. Yeah except the situation I've described is exactly what we have now. We live in a bunch of corpocracies with a democratic cover. You then turn around and say ""but what if corporation are powerful in ancapistan?"" At the very least, in ancapistan, they don't have the cover of legitimacy through the use of force by the state. If they decide to commit aggression against you it's gonna be pretty naked aggression, of a kind immediately recognizable as an injustice, much like we would today recognize that the initiation of force by a state against another is an act of aggression. The only time people accept force being used against them is when a guy shows up dressed as a police officer. If some random dude sticks up a gun up your face on the street, we at least can immediately see that he's a thief. The government can show up at your house (by mistake), shoot you, and then jail you if you shoot back, and people will think that this is kind of legit.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494265021 124682054,124702529,2017-05-08 17:37:59,">>124701481 >They honestly don't pay more taxes. Yes, they literally do. This idea that rich people magically don't pay taxes has gone unchallenged for far too long.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494265079 124682054,124702558,2017-05-08 17:38:17,">>124701590 >that place with constant foreign government intervention and average IQ 78 is surely the right place for any system to exist",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494265097 124682054,124702785,2017-05-08 17:39:54,>>124701982,,Anonymous,image.jpg,8v/h8RQVF/67xIxz0gwOgA==,FR,,1494265194 124682054,124702965,2017-05-08 17:41:22,">>124702785 Thanks frenchbro",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494265282 124682054,124703234,2017-05-08 17:43:35,">>124702405 >The government can show up at your house (by mistake), shoot you, and then jail you if you shoot back, and people will think that this is kind of legit. #blacklivesmatter",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494265415 124682054,124703306,2017-05-08 17:44:10,">>124702167 >1. Before we go any further on that topic, what is a corporation to you? The definition of a corporation from Wikipedia: A corporation is a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law. >>In other words a huge loss for both, but more so the big guys than the average Joe. >Being killed in the millions is better than losing some money? It's more like both sides get a nice share of that millions death toll, but the bigger side has to expend WAY more resources than the other. I don't know about Europe but in Burgerland an army attempting this couldn't possibly win. There isn't a single conventional army on this planet that could pull off a successful land invasion of the US. >No, it basically states that I believe that a government can function as an obstacle to corporations and powerful individuals that want to harm lesser individuals. They don't, not on any scale that matters. >False. The rich got to balance their power because their puppet government needs legitimacy. It's """"""legitimacy"""""" is just the elites playing the game that they made. They don't really answer to the people. >The Norwegian government with the Swiss, Danish, Finnish etc. is a large obstacle to big corporations. I don't know enough about their government systems to comment on them specifically. >>124702529 Give me some numbers. They pay taxes but not as much comparatively as the middle class.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494265450 124682054,124703471,2017-05-08 17:45:33,">>124701982 personally I use this one, although I had to rescale it myself to fit properly. It looks ok.",,Anonymous,1489426808999.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,US,,1494265533 124682054,124703534,2017-05-08 17:46:05,">>124702785 >>124702965 >>124701982 better version in ancap colours someone made for me",,Anonymous,AncapFlagB2.png,eI5O6TirBEeoRBs5ceYQNQ==,GB,,1494265565 124682054,124703551,2017-05-08 17:46:12,">>124698465 The typical argument against the military industrial complex from attaining power is to have a non-intervensionist or isolationist foreign policy. The other argument, which granted is much rarer, is the government co-ops the military industrial complex so we're in an endless state of war, therefore if the government didn't co-op the MIC than it would ultimately fail.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494265572 124682054,124703732,2017-05-08 17:47:46,">>124701590 Actually by what indicators we have, Somalia has been developing faster without a gov't than when it had a commie one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494265666 124682054,124704072,2017-05-08 17:50:23,">>124703306 The middle/lower class is always hit hardest by taxes for the simply reason that they have less money. Which is why most countries nowadays scale income taxes based on income level so that rich people have to take the biggest chunk of the tax burden.",,Anonymous,Tax Brackets USA.jpg,jbc8r5HrADJmHXQSqPA8nA==,US,,1494265823 124682054,124704163,2017-05-08 17:51:14,">>124702785 >>124703471 >>124703534 I will choose one for myself, thanks.",,Anonymous,1479937949714.png,JqJ7s3j3E1WaPO5qn/PT6A==,PL,,1494265874 124682054,124704196,2017-05-08 17:51:27,">>124701459 >Why would they defend me? Again you are depending on good moral, but what if the criminal doesn't show up? Then it ends up in gunshots, but if it's a rich guy he will come in because he can lose cash by wasting money on bullets Also as I said they would profit for defending you if you win the case",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494265887 124682054,124704411,2017-05-08 17:53:09,">>124693730 >Nazis come here to say how shit we are >leftshits come ehre to call us Nazis the most triggering ideology is usually the correct",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494265989 124682054,124704545,2017-05-08 17:54:13,">>124704072 Yeah the rich can afford it. They don't pay taxes like the rest of us do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494266053 124682054,124704576,2017-05-08 17:54:30,">>124704196 This is nonsense. Unless a criminal is forced to come to trial, he simply will not come.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494266070 124682054,124704580,2017-05-08 17:54:31,">>124701590 that's why we are right wing libertarians find one guy here who is not a race realist pretty sure even the brazilians are",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494266071 124682054,124704795,2017-05-08 17:56:21,">>124701341 You cannot build through destruction - your reply seems like an edgy quote you'd see on the back of a Call Of Duty box.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494266181 124682054,124704891,2017-05-08 17:57:09,">>124704576 If you simply don't show up to a trial you're basically admitting you're guilty and are in all likelihood going to be treated as such.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494266229 124682054,124705043,2017-05-08 17:58:21,">>124704545 >They don't pay taxes like the rest of us do. Sure they don't. I mean, you've offered no evidence of this, but sure, rich people just magically avoid all taxes through some magical loophole that only rich people are allowed to see.",,Anonymous,trump_tax_maddow_ben_garrison.jpg,aap2xN9l1QVwhORfKW1IQw==,US,,1494266301 124682054,124705357,2017-05-08 18:01:16,">>124705043 >implying I never said they don't pay taxes. I simply said that taxes don't affect them like they affect most other people, something you implied yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494266476 124682054,124706417,2017-05-08 18:10:17,">>124685293 Who you gonna call?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267017 124682054,124706653,2017-05-08 18:12:01,">>124701590 >niggers No way, niggers can't afford the entry fee to ancapistan.",,Anonymous,Tucker.png,G3ntbYA6wn77pdLZEi56hw==,US,,1494267121 124682054,124707128,2017-05-08 18:16:12,">>124705357 You're correct, taxes don't affect rich people as much, because rich people have plenty of extra money whereas non-rich people don't. But rich people do pay a higher percentage, specifically because they can afford it. Congratulations, you now understand the concept of graduated income taxes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267372 124682054,124707202,2017-05-08 18:16:57,">>124707128 Okay then. Are you rich?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267417 124682054,124707459,2017-05-08 18:19:11,">>124707202 Not yet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267551 124682054,124707535,2017-05-08 18:19:48,">>124707128 really rich people don't pay taxes, they just send their money elsewere so the gubermen can't get their cut.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267588 124682054,124707604,2017-05-08 18:20:24,">>124707459 Well don't suck their dicks for too long. If you aren't one of them they aren't your friends.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267624 124682054,124707740,2017-05-08 18:21:46,">>124683327 Agreed. Ancap is flawless.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267706 124682054,124707846,2017-05-08 18:22:44,">>124707535 And what stops you from doing this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267764 124682054,124708036,2017-05-08 18:24:18,">>124707128 >be rich >gubment wants to tax me even more >move somewhere else or hire army of lawyers that is cheaper than actually paying the tax >middle class has to pick up tax slack >poor class continue to demand more benefits and grows because of said benefits >resources consume slowly overtake resources generated because people who make jobs and expand are punished >debt continues into bubble until it bursts, and the poor and middle class will be hurt the most because the rich can just leave as usual this is the reality people choose",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267858 124682054,124708169,2017-05-08 18:25:26,">>124707846 I can't afford to send my neetbux to switzerland.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267926 124682054,124708225,2017-05-08 18:25:58,">>124708036 but anon, rich people are the bad people, what kind of person doesn't want to get all of society's expenses put on them and tries to do their best not to be stolen from?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494267958 124682054,124708439,2017-05-08 18:27:28,">>124708225 [picture of rich fat guy with a lot of money] THEY'RE SO EVIL OMG",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494268048 124682054,124708529,2017-05-08 18:28:12,">>124683030 >white capitalists will magically act less like degenerate and subversive kikes if we just remove ethnic kikes",,Anonymous,eqCeRhy.png,WdDmEJH02NQg6+AQAyUHog==,SE,,1494268092 124682054,124708638,2017-05-08 18:29:12,">>124708529 yes. thats correct.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494268152 124682054,124708671,2017-05-08 18:29:34,">>124708169 http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/swiss-bank-account.asp That sounds like an excuse. Don't let your dreams be dreams anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494268174 124682054,124708916,2017-05-08 18:31:49,">>124708225 >>124708439 The rich are not to blame but they most certainly aren't your allies either. >>124708529 >(((white)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494268309 124682054,124709122,2017-05-08 18:33:40,">>124708671 neat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494268420 124682054,124709264,2017-05-08 18:34:51,">>124701590 >niggers there's your problem. If a society is to be truly anarcho-capitalist in nature it must be in a state of liberty; namely, there can be no violation of the NAP. Somalia is therefore not an anarcho-capitalist society, and people who behave aggressively, such as niggers, must be expelled from society if a libertarian social order is to maintained",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494268491 124682054,124709381,2017-05-08 18:35:46,">>124708638 >>124708916 what do jewish capitalist do that white capitalists don't do?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494268546 124682054,124709439,2017-05-08 18:36:17,">>124701982 Using this one",,Anonymous,1490556479211.png,YB/46et2ZZC+7S0LzOEFsA==,CA,,1494268577 124682054,124709495,2017-05-08 18:36:40,">>124708916 If the rich benefit, I benefit. The rich in a free market MUST make products via businesses that appeal to consumers in order to maintain their wealth or expand, and that includes me. This means making their products better and better or else their opponents will get to them first, all while selling for less. The rich gets money, while I get a better and cheaper product. Everybody wins.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494268600 124682054,124709593,2017-05-08 18:37:39,">>124709381 usury, fraud, generally all thew degenerate shit. >>124701982",,Anonymous,Flag.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,US,,1494268659 124682054,124709626,2017-05-08 18:38:01,">>124683320 kek stupid clog",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494268681 124682054,124709752,2017-05-08 18:39:07,>Save Net Neutrality! It has 'neutral' in its name. How can you argue against it?,,Anonymous,Socialist Limey.jpg,JLtizMrfnvoKom+dd9/zXQ==,US,,1494268747 124682054,124709777,2017-05-08 18:39:26,,,Anonymous,1494006811599.png,A2Sf2d3PuRTCPfHDRBBiRg==,CA,,1494268766 124682054,124709867,2017-05-08 18:40:16,">>124685029 holy fucking shit how can you possibly hold NATIONAL SOCIALISM AND RIGHT-LIBERTARIANISM in your fucking brain at the same time without it exploding you dumb fuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494268816 124682054,124709989,2017-05-08 18:41:18,">>124682054 Are any of the anons in this thread familiar with the basic concepts of Mutualism? I don't have much knowledge of the system aside from a brief Wikipedia survey, but I find the concept of labor vouchers to be a much fairer form of exchangeable capital than a limited resource such as precious metal. Obviously Mutualism has some form of collectivism attached to it, but that is acceptable; indeed, it uses the same concept of the voluntary society as AnCap. Really not looking to stir things up here, I have been a staunch libertarian for years now, but I would welcome some insight from others as Mutualism is something I have never personally seen discussed on this board, or anywhere else, to be honest.",,Anonymous,Orange_and_Black_flag_(Mutualism).svg.png,yHx+gkOU4eBCa9b4c/Tiiw==,US,,1494268878 124682054,124710323,2017-05-08 18:44:09,">>124709867 I wish for a voluntary society, and I admire the high social standards, family values, race realism and anti-degeneracy of NatSoc. plus the aesthetics are amazing and triggers cuckbois and leftists. I'm not gonna genocide you. chill out.",,Anonymous,pUxfu7g.png,3UE+9Dn2fBlQk+rfYTvzqA==,US,,1494269049 124682054,124710676,2017-05-08 18:47:16,">>124709989 It's better than anarcho-communism or anarcho-syndicalism at least. It isn't a libertarian ideology in a right wing sense because it rejects the right to self-ownership since it advocates for socialism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494269236 124682054,124711509,2017-05-08 18:54:24,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DIGITALLY REMOVE NAZBOLS EDITION,,Anonymous,snek (2).png,ZJUzc6WPaHObMTxjZmkz+Q==,US,,1494269664 124682054,124713016,2017-05-08 19:07:25,">>124703534 the yellow and overuse of bold type makes this look like an occupy democrats poster",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494270445 124682054,124714985,2017-05-08 19:25:39,,,Anonymous,lrg.png,MBF2daVHUnooCv4W503Kqw==,US,,1494271539 124682054,124716470,2017-05-08 19:38:48,">>124683500 This image was made by a troll who wanted to prove how retarded commies who would actually post it are.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1494272328 124682054,124717003,2017-05-08 19:43:37,">>124686194 Is that HHH's grandfather?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494272617 124682054,124717038,2017-05-08 19:44:00,">>124716470 poe's law is one hell of a drug",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494272640 124682054,124717570,2017-05-08 19:48:29,">>124717003 >HHH's grandfather Lutz-Ludwig Leappe?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494272909 124682054,124718042,2017-05-08 19:52:29,"Explain this to me bros. Im attracted to the romanticism of ancap but seriously I dont get this >Company gains monopoly >Decides to become an authoritarian piece of shit and sell shit at a ridiculously high price >Competitor enters market with reasonable prices >monopoly company lowers prices until they put competitor out of business >Monopoly puts prices back up >repeat >eventually people give up and submit to the eternal monopoly. Is there a solution for this that doesnt involve communism-tier wishful thinking about how individuals will behave?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494273149 124682054,124718197,2017-05-08 19:53:47,">>124693797 https://mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over Also a circular argument if you say we need the state to stop others forming states",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494273227 124682054,124718502,2017-05-08 19:56:48,">>124684147 aqui convoco todos os seguidores do rafael do ideias radicais",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494273408 124682054,124718660,2017-05-08 19:58:01,,,Anonymous,snek.png,Fl5QA4lwzyCIpA7YEFC2iQ==,US,,1494273481 124682054,124718714,2017-05-08 19:58:29,">>124684909 unpaid internships already exist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494273509 124682054,124718723,2017-05-08 19:58:33,">>124718042 >Company gains monopoly Monopoly is defined as the exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service. Therefore a monopoly requires coercion to exist in the presence of competition of the same commodity, and is thus incompatible with an ancap society",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494273513 124682054,124718887,2017-05-08 20:00:01,">>124718042 If the competitor can still make profit they wouldn't go out of business. Why would the monopoly keep drastically raising prices if it is just going to make less profit due to significantly cheaper competetiors? It might as just keep its prices at a similar range to the rest. Also it is very unlikely any company would gain a monopoly. Even if one companes has like +80% of the market there is much to compete for in the remaining 20%,",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494273601 124682054,124719018,2017-05-08 20:00:54,">>124683320 Good.",,Anonymous,IMG_2047.png,Gytx8CTKjRTH2xcKpa2RWg==,US,,1494273654 124682054,124719212,2017-05-08 20:02:34,">>124718042 It breaks at >Competitor enters the market The Monopoly would be eternally having to lower prices and offer better service to lock the competitor out of the market. Even when it controls a majority of the market, because anyone can freely enter, they have no choice but to provide the best service. Also diseconomies of scale.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494273754 124682054,124719218,2017-05-08 20:02:38,">>124683500 >Imperialistic foreign policy = capitalist economic system lel ok",,Anonymous,IMG_6804.jpg,aRLuL59p0x564HFXzW6D4A==,US,,1494273758 124682054,124719270,2017-05-08 20:03:06,">>124695247 True but the arguments they use are things such as how would the poor afford healthcare etc.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494273786 124682054,124719523,2017-05-08 20:05:10,">>124683645 this.",,Anonymous,IMG_2163.jpg,LRBvLCiurKuGn1wTXRoPeA==,US,,1494273910 124682054,124719771,2017-05-08 20:07:02,">>124683500 >It includes communist nations >It includes corporatist nations >It blames natural disasters on capitalism >It blames civil wars often incited by supranationalist or communist (or both) rebels on capitalism >World War fucking 2 is thanks to capitalism even though it was the Soviet Union's fault it had such insanely high casualties. >Blaming every single death on capitalism even when it has nothing to do with capitalism Okay kid",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494274022 124682054,124720832,2017-05-08 20:15:40,How many of you are actually entrepreneurs who start businesses?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494274540 124682054,124721195,2017-05-08 20:18:45,">>124718887 >>124719212 Why would competitors continue to enter the market after they saw multiple business try and fail to compete with the monopoly? It can be ruinously expensive to start a business that fails, once it was clear that the monopoly was militant about undercutting and destroying competitors, why would anyone try?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494274725 124682054,124721392,2017-05-08 20:20:27,">>124721195 because if they can be the one to slay the dragon, all its treasures are for its taking",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494274827 124682054,124721491,2017-05-08 20:21:27,>>124718502,,Anonymous,1480733477027.jpg,7Rn6/4wDljBG06mUmz5MzQ==,BR,,1494274887 124682054,124721804,2017-05-08 20:24:02,">>124720832 I don't own a established, regulated, taxed buisness per se. but I do whore myself with my wide selection of trades and talents to all sorts weirdos online.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494275042 124682054,124721852,2017-05-08 20:24:25,,,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1494275065 124682054,124722128,2017-05-08 20:26:41,">>124698094 This. No rule exists without an enforcement mechanism, not even the NAP.",,Anonymous,IMG_2142.png,Qbxyy0yqan/ogz+jRViQbw==,US,,1494275201 124682054,124722281,2017-05-08 20:27:57,">>124721392 Who would try to slay a treasure hoarding dragon with the capital equivalent of a chewed toothpick?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494275277 124682054,124722491,2017-05-08 20:29:45,">>124721195 If there is an opportunity to enter the market and make profit they will even if is for the short term. If the monopoly is predictable then competitors will adapt. A similar example is if a companies decides to buy out its competitors and then rise prices. If this were to happen entrepreneurs would set up business just solely for them to be bought out at a later date. There are always questions when it comes to monopolies taking over but people ignore how difficult this would be (since they do not have monopoly of violence like the state does).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494275385 124682054,124722589,2017-05-08 20:30:32,">>124719212 Yes, and also innovation breaks monopolies. A lot of statists use power, water, or internet as arguments for government control, but there are non-centeralized alternatives for all of these. Even if there wasn't, there would be a huge financial incentive to create one.",,Anonymous,IMG_2141.jpg,vMOvNnQfmYK4JW/MUSbwZg==,US,,1494275432 124682054,124722617,2017-05-08 20:30:41,">>124722281 they think of something new, something nobody has done before they poison the toothpick with rare snek venom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494275441 124682054,124722644,2017-05-08 20:30:54,">>124722128 There would be private courts and defence agencies.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494275454 124682054,124723139,2017-05-08 20:34:52,">>124709989 Some people's labor is worth more than others. Infinitely divisible money is best, since it allows the exact value of someone's labor to be met.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494275692 124682054,124723144,2017-05-08 20:34:55,">>124722491 How could there be opportunity to make short term profit if the monopoly makes sure it always offers better prices? If people hear a new competitor is entering they will automatically go to the monopoly where they know crazy deals with be available. It may be difficult for a monopoly to take over but with every business doing their best to become one, on the order of centuries or millennia it would assuredly happen.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494275695 124682054,124723223,2017-05-08 20:35:39,">>124683500 This doesn't even make any fucking sense. capitalism is an economic system unlike communism or socialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494275739 124682054,124723260,2017-05-08 20:35:57,">>124722589 There's nothing someone could invent that a monopoly couldn't reverse engineer, copy, and sell for cheaper.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494275757 124682054,124723437,2017-05-08 20:37:20,">>124721195 Because of diseconomies of scale, at a certain point it becomes incredibly inefficient to produce EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE. Which allows another business to essentially always be more competitive in that area. As a result the Monopoly will either have to buy out that company or lower its prices at a cost. There are menu costs associated with rapidly changing prices constantly, and if a company starts jolting prices up it then in the short run tons of competition will jump in to replace it, which will then have to be crushed by low prices repeatedly. As a result it becomes entirely cost ineffective to just rapidly change your prices everyday, especially since those decisions will also be delayed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494275840 124682054,124723602,2017-05-08 20:38:43,">>124723260 That requires time, money, and changing out your entire production. It would be prohibitively expensive and delayed heavily. Also look at the last 3 words of your sentence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494275923 124682054,124723835,2017-05-08 20:40:33,">>124723602 >It takes longer for a large company to do something Literally the opposite is true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494276033 124682054,124723972,2017-05-08 20:41:36,">>124723437 Can diseconomies of scale be guaranteed to exist forever? They seem like a temporary reality caused by human limitations. What happens when a corporation has access to AI and self replicating robots/factories?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494276096 124682054,124724461,2017-05-08 20:46:04,">>124723144 >it would assuredly happen. If you are just going to assume that ""it will happen"" then wouldn't it be just as safe to assume that ""it will eventually disintegrate"" >>124723835 I never said that it takes longer for a large company, I said that it takes time, money, and changing out your production which is factually true. >>124723972 Well you are essentially arguing what happens if the economy is post scarcity. It may ""eventually"" get to the point you described, but at that point most of economics has to be reanalyzed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494276364 124682054,124724777,2017-05-08 20:48:55,">>124724461 Isn't it a bit late for reanalyzing if a corporate entity has achieved dystopian levels of control over humanity? Also, assuming a monopoly will eventually form is more realistic than assuming something immensely powerful with no real competitors will somehow fail.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494276535 124682054,124725030,2017-05-08 20:51:12,"Before the thread maxes, does anyone here know anything about game theory, specifically applying the Prisoner's Dilemma to Anarcho-Capitalist Libertarian principles to account for the (((psychopathics)))",,Anonymous,1459827801076.png,TNf4XA8LJGyt8QZ5IGw2Kw==,US,,1494276672 124682054,124725519,2017-05-08 20:55:17,">What is the age consent in ancap. Start of puberty 12,14,18? >Who enforces that in ancap who are you to say it's 18 to a city or commune which believes it's 12? >With much lessened police powers there will be a greater market for child abuse, and forget about catching any unless you agree to a private security company with police tier powers therefore just renaming the police >How about privacy rights companies would want to know everything about you to ensure your the best they could get, if they check your Facebook now they'll be checking your internet history and everything you buy will be all on a public database >How would corruption be eliminated, or are we going to say corporations would never excessively use power or intimidate people whom live on their land,eat their food and their whole family works for them >What about micro aggression's like bumping someones car then refusing to pay, or tripping over someone does that warrant shooting him in the head >What about environmental protection laws, they would be non existent and people are willing to shit on the environment if something is a little cheaper",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494276917 124682054,124725585,2017-05-08 20:55:49,">>124724777 If you are arguing a company has formed and continues to exist into those conditions, I place some stock in the idea that not everyone is evil. Nor would it make much sense, the economy is post-scarcity, money doesn't really matter at that point. Also the idea that one corporation could control LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE MARKET is absurd. The idea that 1 company could manage to control 1 market is already a long shot, sorry to make a reductio ad absurdum but it should be self evident why that is practically impossible >assuming something immensely powerful with no real competitors will somehow fail. Think like this for a second, some brilliant businessman that guided the company into controlling an entire market dies. Suddenly he is replaced by incompetents. Or say for example a certain someone dominated the Kerosene market, but then Kerosene becomes obsolete. Or say natural disaster strikes and throws the company off its feet. I know I am throwing more hypotheticals into the situation, but I think you get what I mean. If it is ""just a matter of time"" before monopoly forms, then it is ""just a matter of time"" before they fall apart",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494276949 124682054,124725895,2017-05-08 20:58:43,">>124725519 I wish we had more infographics that answered all these questions instead of tldr quotedumps nobody reads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494277123 124682054,124726113,2017-05-08 21:00:32,">>124725585 >Also the idea that one corporation could control LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE MARKET is absurd. http://www.businessinsider.com/this-chart-shows-the-bilderberg-groups-connection-to-everything-in-the-world-2012-6",,Anonymous,bilderberg.jpg,+yUWquWTgpaSwxFviUxrHQ==,US,,1494277232 124682054,124726287,2017-05-08 21:02:12,">>124726113 T-that's just cause the market isn't free enough goy. If you give these groups less restrictions it will weaken them. Trust me goy",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494277332 124682054,124726533,2017-05-08 21:04:23,">>124726287 >when you're being sarcastic but you're actually right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494277463 124682054,124726685,2017-05-08 21:05:45,">>124726533 When the huge corporate oligarchy we have no control over gets weaker when restrictions are taken off of them. Yes goy remove my chains that bind my corporations.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494277545 124682054,124726704,2017-05-08 21:05:59,">>124726533 What did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,thinking-face.png,mhv6gLwd3GH0/CivBtm8Dw==,US,,1494277559 124682054,124726715,2017-05-08 21:06:08,">>124726113 A corporatist conspiracy and a single company are two different things. Half of those aren't even companies which would suggest that maybe the problem is politics involving itself in the markets not that the markets are ""too free"" and have allowed this conspiracy to happen. All of this assuming that y-you understand that thi-this is just a meeting you silly goy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494277568 124682054,124726730,2017-05-08 21:06:15,">>124725585 It's not that I think you are being illogical, you're raising more or less good counterpoints to my worries. But what really stands out t ome is >I place some stock in the idea that not everyone is evil I think the reality is that only a few (maybe even one) very powerful people need to be evil in an Ancap society for it to become a dystopia. Sure, there are difficulties for a monopoly to gain or maintain power. Sure, controlling every market is a gargantuan task that could take centuries. But what happens if someone actually does it? Even if theres only a 1% chance, would you take the risk of concentrating power in a way that humanity could never escape? I dont think there will be a rebellion in my lifetime, but I argue that people should be able to have guns in case the people ever need to overthrow the government, even if its 10 000 years from now. By that same logic I have to recognize the potential tyranny of a monopoly, no matter how unlikely.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494277575 124682054,124726953,2017-05-08 21:08:26,">>124726113 This is what I'm talking about, or that Rothschild timeline that gets posted sometimes. How can we, the 99% prevent a secret Cabal forming and stealing control over the world and enslaving us? How can freedom and liberty be maintained if a tiny cult of autistic jewish pedophiles controls the media, the technology, the intelligence agencies, the banks and money supply, the military industrial complex, the education, the legislative, the judicial, ect.?",,Anonymous,1486636758864m.jpg,MUJd7twMkksyzfE0OA4zRA==,US,,1494277706 124682054,124727165,2017-05-08 21:10:22,">>124726730 Well think about it like this (this is why states will never become some super evil dystopia forever), monopolies rely on employing people. If these people see that they are causing obscene amounts of human suffering, even if it was only about 10% of the employees it would fall apart. If you believe that this extreme centralization of ALL power is at all possible, then I hope you would understand that a state with its immense power and accepted rule would be much more capable than a single company. However I don't believe that this is really possible whether by a state or a company.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494277822 124682054,124727342,2017-05-08 21:12:01,">>124726715 I don't accept that anarchist nothing that ""all the problems with corporations are actually corporations using the government as a proxy."" I believe that there is no way to structure a large society without government, and that corporations will always find a way to proxy the government to some extent. So with that in mind, there is nothing wrong with making corporations accept taxes and regulations as a trade-off. If they can use the government to their advantage, then why shouldn't other people as well? By saying that you DON'T want the government to actively support your positions, you're creating a situation where the other side can use the government to push LGBT/multicultural propaganda but you have no way to ever retaliate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494277921 124682054,124727987,2017-05-08 21:17:47,">>124726953 A heavily decentralized supra-nationalistic military regime that enforces strict fair use laws on media corporations. The old fair use laws that required you give a competent opposing opinion on every topic are one of the few regulations I like. General stuff like that. >>124727342 You see the problem with that logic that ""the corporations control the gov't so we respond with regulations"" is that the corporations (who we both believe easily use the gov't as a proxy) will be the ones with the most say in these regulations. Now wouldn't it be logical to create regulations that make entering the market more difficult so that your established corporation is protected, after all you use the gov't by proxy. I should say this too, I am not an ancap, I support a limited, heavily decentralized gov't not no gov't at all. I believe that by limiting and decentralizing it, it would never have the ability to push propaganda. Ideally its power would be limited to the classic ""necessary evil"" stance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494278267 124682054,124728798,2017-05-08 21:25:23,">>124727987 They have spies and Renfields all over, they would infiltrate and infect any organization. Someone has to determine what is ""competant"" what is an ""opposing side"" The jews have a word - pilpul it basically means bullshitting over miniscule punctuation to justify fucking babies, it's how they interprite the torah however they like. The jews have been doing this since the Pharisees",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494278723 124682054,124729006,2017-05-08 21:27:22,">>124728798 Well if you believe that the jews are this capable, then what does it matter the system you are in. Just kill them and be done",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494278842 124682054,124729285,2017-05-08 21:29:46,">>124727987 >is that the corporations (who we both believe easily use the gov't as a proxy) will be the ones with the most say in these regulations True. And that's largely unavoidable because every government favors corporations because that is were the government's income comes from (by taxing said corporations). So what can you do to make it fair? Tax rich people more so that the money they earn by gaming the system is partially recycled into the system and back to the general public. It's inevitable that the wealthy will have disproportionate influence. So why not make them pay for it?",,Anonymous,1494002960451.jpg,z4BToFtAcNYxrxPGT9oaYg==,US,,1494278986 124682054,124729603,2017-05-08 21:32:48,">>124729285 Because according to both of us, the gov't is going to be used by proxy. Inevitable result being that what laws and regulations they create serve these same corporations. You can't use a gov't controlled by your enemies to hurt your enemies, it's silly to think that would ever end well. The fairest system limits the gov't, not gives it more control so that it can be used by proxy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494279168 124682054,124729967,2017-05-08 21:36:07,">>124729006 ""jews"" not jewish people, they're being used as much as the rest of us. I'm talking about real pschopaths, humans that have no empathy, emotion or personality, combined with 180 IQs, such a group, I can't think of a good way to beat them. Even if you don't believe the whole Rothschild story, it's interesting as a hypothetical",,Anonymous,1415426275388.png,9Xhc1KQXiKESXZXg5wbqAg==,US,,1494279367 124682054,124730093,2017-05-08 21:37:19,">>124729603 But I don't necessarily see corporations as ""The Enemy."" How could I? I willingly buy things from them all the time! But there still have to be regulations to keep certain things in check, especially pollution. Otherwise, you end up in places like this.",,Anonymous,china-bad-pollution-climate-change-17__880.jpg,WMYj3zeBjcb8Voby3iImeQ==,US,,1494279439 124682054,124730167,2017-05-08 21:37:56,">>124729967 heres part 2, bump limit's reached anyway",,Anonymous,1415426319194.png,q0YRKc0FBPPAkA2AS9QEuA==,US,,1494279476 124682054,124730292,2017-05-08 21:39:08,">>124730167 3",,Anonymous,1415426366561.png,jnndF2BEqHDoVKYy944aCQ==,US,,1494279548 124682054,124730800,2017-05-08 21:44:05,">>124729967 I will read the pics, but the best way to deal with them is to build a system around having them kill each other. >>124730093 Well now you are arguing for regulation which takes us to a different topic than the structure of gov't and its role in securing corporate power. Old England looked like that, Chicago looked like that, pollution is an external consequence of industrialization. However I would pick a system where I actually have consumer goods and a little pollution over the Romanticist no factories just nature. Besides China is like that because it encourages large scale factory growth in an insanely small area. Had the gov't allowed these factories to spread out, they inevitably would have due to cheaper prices.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494279845 124682054,124730871,2017-05-08 21:44:49,">>124730800 When I said cheaper prices I meant in land",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494279889 124732123,124732123,2017-05-08 21:55:56,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleoconservativism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads Previous Thread: >>124682054",/lrg/ - Libertarian-Right General,Anonymous,1200px-Gadsden_flag.svg.png,bWPkgADB8BCeOFKtfTzI0Q==,US,,1494280556 124732123,124732781,2017-05-08 22:01:37,,,Anonymous,ancap-andy.png,xORZqJpsafjbHT4rgruKbg==,US,,1494280897 124732123,124733100,2017-05-08 22:04:25,">>124732123 Consequentialist ancap reporting for duty!",,Anonymous,davidfriedman.jpg,NSin8GqzZhPFrPqxQ6GDsg==,US,,1494281065 124732123,124733545,2017-05-08 22:08:04,Checking in,,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-05-02-15-54-04-1.png,4PYT8jZtROwb52njBqV6pg==,US,,1494281284 124732123,124733590,2017-05-08 22:08:27,">>124732781 fpbp",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494281307 124732123,124733670,2017-05-08 22:09:06,">>124732123 >Claims to be libertarian >Isn't an NRA member Explain yourselves.",,Anonymous,nraorg-grid_join1.jpg,dI6jAvvPzB8g6KZ4GTGHlQ==,US,,1494281346 124732123,124733966,2017-05-08 22:11:32,">Paleoconservativism ...paleoconservatism ? ? ?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494281492 124732123,124733967,2017-05-08 22:11:32,">>124732123 How do I try to tell normies that a socialized healthcare system is fucking trash? Please don't include shit like ""taxation is theft"" i don't want to sound autistic. also minarchist reporting in",,Anonymous,-.jpg,1sRSfOPNMnhINHDRMGa0Og==,US,,1494281492 124732123,124734132,2017-05-08 22:12:47,">>124733966 paleoconservatives are anti large govt. You're thinking of neocons",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494281567 124732123,124734412,2017-05-08 22:15:14,">>124733966 (checked) The paleoconservative platform, in a nutshell: >Restricted immigration >Anti-multiculturalism >Decentralization >Cultural conservatism >Control on free trade >Economic nationalism/isolationism Outside of those last two points, it lines up pretty well with the libertarian right's platform.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,US,,1494281714 124732123,124734673,2017-05-08 22:17:17,"Threadly reminder not to engage shills from /nsg/ and /leftypol/ Rarely if ever have I had a fruitful debate with a NatSoc, let alone a commie",,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1494281837 124732123,124734694,2017-05-08 22:17:29,">>124733670 NRA are shills for gun manufacturers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494281849 124732123,124734781,2017-05-08 22:18:09,">>124733966 >According to international relations scholar Michael Foley, paleoconservatives press for restrictions on immigration, a rollback of multicultural programmes, the decentralization of the federal policy, the restoration of controls upon free trade, a greater emphasis upon economic nationalism and isolationism in the conduct of American foreign policy, and a generally revanchist outlook upon a social order in need of recovering old lines of distinction and in particular the assignment of roles in accordance with traditional categories of gender, ethnicity, and race. >>124734694 You say that like it is a bad thing.",,Anonymous,Pat Buchanan.jpg,dQc8pf5jdCgcqbPGgTIMUg==,US,,1494281889 124732123,124734855,2017-05-08 22:18:46,">>124734673 What about your half NatSoc half Ancap Brotherts?",,Anonymous,Pol (3).png,MtzaYjx/b3Qzs1fsb77igQ==,US,,1494281926 124732123,124735086,2017-05-08 22:20:43,">>124734694 They are actually fighting for gun rights. Those benefit everyone even if they take a lot of funding from gun manufacturers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494282043 124732123,124735234,2017-05-08 22:22:03,I want to spread the love among our anti degeneracy brothers at /nsg/. they're pretty right about race realism and anti-faggotry,,Anonymous,Best_Pals.png,3ldWWfoSbpbxjOAWhRyRTQ==,US,,1494282123 124732123,124735355,2017-05-08 22:23:02,">>124734855 You guys are cool, you accept that fascism is only workable in a voluntary society.",,Anonymous,First Priority.png,OuDRtlyA/LdtiaK7/qtqiw==,US,,1494282182 124732123,124735381,2017-05-08 22:23:15,even if they're retarded on the issue of gibsmedats for white people I still respect a Nationalist over a fucking commie!,,Anonymous,NAMS.png,gHBSJychSk3TT1CCGIYTTg==,US,,1494282195 124732123,124735429,2017-05-08 22:23:37,Swiss shill incoming,,Anonymous,7F8F7B38-E015-4DE9-A89C-935A01DD34DA-7211-000003F8815B54EE.png,wgcdrns1a0xDv7DSINB9XQ==,US,,1494282217 124732123,124735506,2017-05-08 22:24:14,">>124735429 Aw, but I like those guys...",,Anonymous,:Schweiz:.png,NVfCeUzzvDab2IMrUTWOOg==,US,,1494282254 124732123,124735692,2017-05-08 22:25:45,"Damn I love Capitlaism, can we just removed Bernie Sanders from the United States?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494282345 124732123,124735787,2017-05-08 22:26:35,">>124734694 And gun manufacturers want strong 2nd amendment rights. I see nothing wrong in shilling for them",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494282395 124732123,124735796,2017-05-08 22:26:37,">>124735086 You can always tell where somebody really sits on the gun issue by looking at how they talk about the NRA. There are plenty of liberals, and liberal politicians, who will pretend to be pro-gun, and they'll say things like ""I support the 2nd Amendment, but.....""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494282397 124732123,124736085,2017-05-08 22:29:05,">>124735355 of course man, facsism only works when you embrace it, and love your people on your own understanding. Fuck Communists physically remove nabolz",,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1494282545 124732123,124736309,2017-05-08 22:31:01,how do you do,,^~,based-prince.jpg,hhNa5wk8/y1G8HADp4IZag==,PT,,1494282661 124732123,124736322,2017-05-08 22:31:09,>>124734694,,Anonymous,gun control.png,N1JfPEOJl0UxYKVrMoVFFQ==,US,,1494282669 124732123,124736458,2017-05-08 22:32:26,">>124734694 Good, KEEP MANUFACTURING GUNS.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1494282746 124732123,124736608,2017-05-08 22:33:43,">>124736309 Como vai, nosso amigo? How strong is the libertarian right movement in Portugal? You guys tend to be the top contributors here, in addition to based Maltabro.",,Anonymous,Ancapugal.jpg,Tv0kuxhoAux++N1hDW85tw==,US,,1494282823 124732123,124736831,2017-05-08 22:35:50,test,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494282950 124732123,124736905,2017-05-08 22:36:27,">>124733967 You should be able to defend your positions fucktwat niggerbitch",,Anonymous,99ff9d9128f2244cc2c70a085db50b3f.jpg,7ukgBztJdx0fVhZ9W7YT+w==,MX,,1494282987 124732123,124736919,2017-05-08 22:36:33,"1/2 >>124733967 It depends on why they support socialized medicine. Most ""normies"" will say that healthcare is a right. This is more or less the appropriate response to that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrT0kBeld3Q The other common argument is that healthcare cannot be handled by free markets: it is too complex and requires a relatively large degree of central planning. There are a few questions you could ask a person who believes this, but I would just give them an intuitively correct argument, and then show how that argument is analogous to one that indicates healthcare should be left to a free-market. This type of persuasion requires little knowledge of our healthcare system of problems with socialized medicine. It would look something like this:",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494282993 124732123,124736946,2017-05-08 22:36:50,">>124733967 >>124736919 >(you) Are monopolies a good thing to have or a bad thing to have? >(normie) Bad. >(you) Why? >(normie)... >(you) Because monopolies take advantage of their monopoly hold by providing to buyers a relatively low quality good or service at a relatively high cost to the seller. The quality of the good or service would be higher and the cost to consumer would be lower if there were a bunch of groups competing for the consumers. >(normie) Right! >(you) So why do you want a monopoly on healthcare? Something like that. If you'd like reasons as to why we should not have socialized medicine for strictly economic reasons then I can give you those. It's just that most people who support socialized medicine don't do so for strictly economic reasons; in other words, they wouldn't give you well-reasoned economic arguments to support their position because they don't have any. These two simple counter-arguments cover the two most common reasons. Sorry my response took so long, I was eating dinner.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494283010 124732123,124737059,2017-05-08 22:37:57,">>124736608 >How strong is the libertarian right movement in Portugal? Non existent. There are some think tanks and stuff like that. But our most to the right party, promoting ""free"" markets are to the left of Hillary.So there's that. They are also socialists and very pro EU. Our govt is Socialist Party, with Left Bloc and Communist Party. So yeah, I'm getting the fuck outta here asap.",,^~,hoppe-feelgood.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,PT,,1494283077 124732123,124737162,2017-05-08 22:38:55,">>124736608 One based portubro who help shill /lrg/ with me creates the h o p p e w a v e. The rest are cool dudes I assume.",,Anonymous,Flag.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1494283135 124732123,124737287,2017-05-08 22:40:04,">>124733670 I don't register my guns.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494283204 124732123,124737547,2017-05-08 22:42:27,">>124735234 The enemy of your enemy is not your friend. Natsocs will drown you out the first opportunity they get.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494283347 124732123,124738015,2017-05-08 22:47:03,">>124737547 So we'll just gas'm if they get too antsy about invading ancapistan. They can keep their white welfare state and heavily centralized government for all I care, as long as they recognize our private borders.",,Anonymous,Fuck socialists.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1494283623 124732123,124738176,2017-05-08 22:48:47,">>124737547 They don't know shit about capitalism i'll admit, they dont know anything about economics at all. but they have great cultural preservation that libertarians really need. Libertarians need to stress SELF DEFENSE as much as NON-AGGRESSION.",,Anonymous,1490016941336s.jpg,r8yeiQ6rTZevJRGVTi6gvw==,US,,1494283727 124732123,124738665,2017-05-08 22:53:23,bump for constitutionalism,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494284003 124732123,124738832,2017-05-08 22:55:02,">>124738665 bump for ""nah""",,Anonymous,quote-but-whether-the-constitution-really-be-one-thing-or-another-this-much-is-certain-that-it-has-lysander-spooner-175921.jpg,StfsfH0ttnth6HaORpGNsg==,US,,1494284102 124732123,124738988,2017-05-08 22:56:35,">>124738176 you dont know shit dude they would execute you by firing squad if you criticized their governance stormnigger newfags already ran libertarians off this board once before, I wont let it happen again. THEY ARE NOT ALLIES, THEY ARE NOT LOYAL",,Anonymous,1494073226444.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,SE,,1494284195 124732123,124739007,2017-05-08 22:56:51,">>124738665 The constitution was ruined by the 17th amendment (which opened the door for federal overreach) and 19th amendment (which opened the door for modern feminism).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494284211 124732123,124739097,2017-05-08 22:57:48,>>124733966,,Anonymous,register communists.jpg,tjeb8X67q3J2Yz5mbUHL1Q==,SE,,1494284268 124732123,124739377,2017-05-08 23:00:42,">>124738832 kill yourself larper",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494284442 124732123,124739409,2017-05-08 23:00:57,">>124738988 So let's just get rid of them, then.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,US,,1494284457 124732123,124739518,2017-05-08 23:01:55,">>124739097 Don't know if anyone itt knows this, but it is against federal law to be a communist. It is in violation of U.S. Code Title 50 Chapter 23 Subchapter IV https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/chapter-23/subchapter-IV >>124739377 >kill yourself larper What did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494284515 124732123,124739647,2017-05-08 23:03:16,">>124739518 americanism > muh anarchy join or die",,Anonymous,1494200553702 (1).png,V1/wvwPgIK9i7A5zk9Wldg==,SE,,1494284596 124732123,124739693,2017-05-08 23:03:49,>>124732123,,Anonymous,48f9f166c53043893ec7b82ea1b24526.jpg,Az2BX1KGQwDo/1r9szTxMQ==,US,,1494284629 124732123,124739788,2017-05-08 23:04:42,>>124739693,,Anonymous,11-Calvin_Coolidge_Taxes.jpg,++hu5ayIcXVEgemM8BFhxg==,US,,1494284682 124732123,124739889,2017-05-08 23:05:32,">>124739647 What are you going on about? Are you trying to say something substantive or just shitposting?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494284732 124732123,124739939,2017-05-08 23:05:58,">>124736946 That's a great argument against universal healthcare",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494284758 124732123,124740385,2017-05-08 23:09:57,">>124732123 used to listen to the fifth column, but their the amount of times Michael Moynihan freaked out about Richard Spencer left a bad taste in my mouth. You don't have to talk about him. I t also annoys me how many libertarians are open borders",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494284997 124732123,124741044,2017-05-08 23:16:06,">>124738988 You LOLbiterians are all civicuck Nu/Male Nu/Pol - tier faggots. NatSoc is the true ideology. Your whole useless ideology was made by fucking kikes, that alone should send a red alert to everyone about you faggots. You all have to go back to Le_Dahanald Daily Reminder that /pol is a NatSoc, Fascist, WN board",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494285366 124732123,124741518,2017-05-08 23:20:50,">>124741044 Natsoc was funded by jews",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494285650 124732123,124741609,2017-05-08 23:21:58,">>124741044 The only thing remotely right-wing about you is your race realism. Even neocons and other parts of the religious right have you beat. Get off my board.",,Anonymous,[removal intensifies].jpg,Grw9oJ1492NpHa45Q6f97g==,US,,1494285718 124732123,124741628,2017-05-08 23:22:10,>>124741044,,Anonymous,1490753345233.png,vnbtex56Pc3vAX3+RnDyWA==,ZA,,1494285730 124732123,124741747,2017-05-08 23:23:28,">>124739518 >§ 842 Mm, so technically this applies to ancom protesters and antifa. I wonder if we could work this in with the running-over-protesters legislation to get some actual removal going.",,Anonymous,Physic2.jpg,RXlD7BGUuuZrEbju0nu4rA==,US,,1494285808 124732123,124742199,2017-05-08 23:28:06,">>124741044 Not an argument. Socialism was developed by Jews (a la Marx) and other French homosexuals. Big government has bred welfare programs and other forms of tax-payer funded degeneracy like 'Piss Christ'. It was through the public school system that pushed evolution, atheism and socialism. It was the welfare state that caused the surge in the break down of the black family and the surge in crime as a result of increase of fatherless ghetto blacks. Your ideology involves in big government inefficiently allocating resources and robbing your fellow white man in the name of nationalism. Why is it that leftist politicians also want to import non-whites, because they consistently vote left.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494286086 124732123,124742398,2017-05-08 23:29:52,">>124741628 tbf, Goebbels, had some pretty off-color humor. I have no doubt that pic related is accurate for a lot of people on the board though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494286192 124732123,124743803,2017-05-08 23:43:25,"As individualists, how do libertarians seek out like minds IRL?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494287005 124732123,124744312,2017-05-08 23:48:23,">>124743803 I don't. I'm a university student on the northeast coast. Even in STEM, where the average IQ is supposedly higher and more male-dominated, the overwhelming majority of my peers are normies who are either apolitical or unrepentantly left-wing. Seeking out a like mind would not only be incredibly difficult but it would also be social suicide.",,Anonymous,average ancap.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,US,,1494287303 124732123,124744780,2017-05-08 23:52:55,">>124739939 It actually isn't, but it SOUNDS like one, which is what makes it effective. There are plenty of theoretical scenarios we could concoct in which we would prefer to have a monopoly over a bunch of firms competing with one another (theory of second best). But I agree with something Milton Friedman said, which is that you never persuade a man with an argument, you just give him ideas with which he may later persuade himself. Something like that. I have to go to bed now. I'll be in the libertarian general thread tomorrow and we can continue this discussion. Bye.",,Anonymous,IMG_2783.jpg,7dZUw5SLZc6pkgUMf1TgNQ==,US,,1494287575 124732123,124744926,2017-05-08 23:54:14,">>124744780 That's what I meant. It's useful against most people. Good night.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494287654 124732123,124745012,2017-05-08 23:54:54,">>124743803 I guess you could establish a libertarian gathering and post signs advertising it throughout your university's campus.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494287694 124732123,124747015,2017-05-09 00:15:21,">>124733967 >If you were paying for someone's healthcare and could make laws to govern them, would you want them to be able to drink, smoke, or drive a car?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494288921 124732123,124747319,2017-05-09 00:18:12,">>124738988 BUMP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494289092 124855647,124855647,2017-05-09 19:24:56,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg [Embed]",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,^~,1491991840920.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,PT,,1494357896 124855647,124855928,2017-05-09 19:26:47,"fuck commies, my dude",,Anonymous,1493402587166.png,nnFcA9shSnsvOizwSaWomQ==,CA,,1494358007 124855647,124856073,2017-05-09 19:27:38,,,^~,hoppe-feelgood.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,PT,,1494358058 124855647,124856191,2017-05-09 19:28:24,So are you all running a company or what?,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1494358104 124855647,124856201,2017-05-09 19:28:28,rate my OC,,Anonymous,Sketch (1).png,644Q+hvh5gMkyU7l0GHYOg==,CA,,1494358108 124855647,124856236,2017-05-09 19:28:41,Is it just me or are we gaining some traction on the internet? More mentions of us in /pol/ at least,,Anonymous,1491920215289.jpg,2nESh97D3R24EEGZW5fMrg==,US,,1494358121 124855647,124856266,2017-05-09 19:28:50,"Daily reminder to read Bastiat's The Law and get some passion back into your advocation of freedom. It's short, sweet and he writes with charisma and a sly sense of humour.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494358130 124855647,124856392,2017-05-09 19:29:40,">>124856201 excellent job",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494358180 124855647,124856879,2017-05-09 19:32:42,">>124856201 Amazing. Make more.",,^~,removalwave.jpg,RXlD7BGUuuZrEbju0nu4rA==,PT,,1494358362 124855647,124856916,2017-05-09 19:32:57,"Dont leave out the traditional Catholic. Church Fathers, Scholastic, the oxford circle, etc etc all contributed immensely to natural law and subsidiarity. As Rothbard said The Church is a corner stone of western civ.",,Anonymous,FultonSheenhuman(1).jpg,9FY0YMElrWjQa7tSAjy07Q==,US,,1494358377 124855647,124857179,2017-05-09 19:34:35,">>124855928 >Milton and Rand >not Mises and Ron Poor form",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494358475 124855647,124857187,2017-05-09 19:34:37,"Left lib here, redistribute nuggets and abortions and solar roofs. Reminder Hayek and Mises a shit. Gold will be 5k in the year 5k and you faggots will claim Peter Schiff was muh right. Get fucked by an Operation Bagration artillery barrage. Raise taxes not axes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494358477 124855647,124857558,2017-05-09 19:37:06,">>124855928 >not posting the better version",,Anonymous,1494082736995.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,US,,1494358626 124855647,124857727,2017-05-09 19:38:13,">>124857187 Don't you talk shit about Hayek & Mises cunt I'll come over their and shove your Obama care pamphlet so far up your ass you'll be spitting pre-existing conditions for week you derro commie bastard.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494358693 124855647,124858426,2017-05-09 19:42:52,"Any Illinois anons here? I'm trying to push to get a libertarian elected governor in 2018. We need something to end this corruption.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494358972 124855647,124858500,2017-05-09 19:43:19,">>124857187 >shitting on Hayek and Mises rev up those helicopters",,Anonymous,1494341022829.jpg,tQypJTj69WSCiczt+QHSBQ==,US,,1494358999 124855647,124858676,2017-05-09 19:44:24,">>124856879 drawn on the spot",,Anonymous,Sketch (2).png,LQf9o1O8Au7IxxF2RQ8YKg==,CA,,1494359064 124855647,124858891,2017-05-09 19:46:02,">>124856191 We're not libertarians because we aspire to be practicing capitalists or because we are practicing capitalists. Capitalism and freedom are inseparable concepts; denouncing capitalism or advocating anything else would contradict our libertarian principles, which all derive from the axiom of self-ownership",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494359162 124855647,124858930,2017-05-09 19:46:19,">>124858676 I like your style both sinister and yet oddly normie friendly. Very interesting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494359179 124855647,124858958,2017-05-09 19:46:32,">>124858676 fuck that's great kek",,^~,1490738214046.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,PT,,1494359192 124855647,124859059,2017-05-09 19:47:23,>>124855647,,Anonymous,2e3735c610a2bb3bedd493f825f874af.jpg,baXG3zI4SUO3kHqut0MJrQ==,US,,1494359243 124855647,124859128,2017-05-09 19:47:53,PLEASE RECOMMEND ME SOME GOOD ANCAP YOUTUBE CHANNELS/VIDEO LECTURES,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494359273 124855647,124859272,2017-05-09 19:48:55,read the rules dipshit,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494359335 124855647,124859285,2017-05-09 19:49:04,Does anyone have any of the good guy ancap ball set?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494359344 124855647,124859356,2017-05-09 19:49:30,">>124859128 >Love, Life, Anarchy probably my favourite. Excellent videos >Brent Ancap hilarious content",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494359370 124855647,124859454,2017-05-09 19:50:09,">>124859128 I, Pencil. You gotta feel the invisible hand of the market touching you deep down before moving onto anything else.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494359409 124855647,124859477,2017-05-09 19:50:20,">>124859128 Stefan Molyneux is a classic",,Anonymous,1494188958707.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,US,,1494359420 124855647,124859602,2017-05-09 19:51:07,">>124855647 >Not being libertarian left Shit general, buddy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494359467 124855647,124859622,2017-05-09 19:51:18,">>124859128 Hans-Herman Hoppe has some great lecture s where he essentially just reads out his books in public. Like ""What is to be done"" and ""Democracy the god that failed"". Argumentation ethics as well is important.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494359478 124855647,124859724,2017-05-09 19:52:04,">>124859602 >libertarian left nice oxymoron buddy",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494359524 124855647,124859909,2017-05-09 19:53:29,">>124859602 There is no personal freedom without economic freedom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494359609 124855647,124860043,2017-05-09 19:54:32,">>124858930 >>124858958 thanks, they're pretty easy/fast to draw",,Anonymous,Sketch (3).png,2txM18gn3dckbveFV3wv4Q==,CA,,1494359672 124855647,124860485,2017-05-09 19:57:51,"How to achieve a libertarian society: 1. Get a young traditional wife > 2. Get a fine job > 3. Make tons of babies > 4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other) > 5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing > 6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants > 7. Privately educate your kids. Send them to good, elite, schools where they can fulfill their quest for knowledge and make great contacts. > 8. Vote, support parties/think tanks/people that want to reduce govt and degeneracy. Godspeed.",,^~,prosper.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,PT,,1494359871 124855647,124860509,2017-05-09 19:58:06,">>124857187 >Left lib here That sucks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494359886 124855647,124861019,2017-05-09 20:02:04,Consequentialist ancap reporting for duty!,,Anonymous,davidfriedman.jpg,NSin8GqzZhPFrPqxQ6GDsg==,US,,1494360124 124855647,124862084,2017-05-09 20:09:58,">>124860485 >Make tons of babies > Privately educate your kids. Send them to good, elite, schools where they can fulfill their quest for knowledge and make great contacts. NIgga do you realize how expensive kids are",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494360598 124855647,124862250,2017-05-09 20:11:14,">>124862084 Catholic school are pretty good with working with people when it comes to finance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494360674 124855647,124862620,2017-05-09 20:13:47,">>124862084 See point 2 ya dummy. Get dem stacks boi.",,^~,1491683805169.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1494360827 124855647,124863264,2017-05-09 20:18:11,">>124861019 > I would argue that making laws is more difficult than making cars or fooood. > So if you wouldn't trust government to make cars or food, why would you trust them to make the lawwwwws that then within those laws you'll have to make the cars or fooood Love dis men.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494361091 124855647,124864950,2017-05-09 20:30:37,,,Anonymous,fonds-cran-rod-stewart-tous.jpg,9OOv2+r+txdlkx9eUk3f6Q==,US,,1494361837 124855647,124866177,2017-05-09 20:39:25,">>124863264 hey I'm having an interesting conversation in >>124841995 if you want to join in. I posted using the same David Friedman picture. That thread is pretty active.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494362365 124924722,124924722,2017-05-10 06:52:56,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Libertarian Fascism - Christopher Cantwell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utnowkjjAGg&index=78&list=PLmzSnh6rTNwD5X_a_rrKB8Q0D1pts1C8D >Fireside Chat on Becoming a Reactionary - Augustus Invictus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Fireside Chat on Speech & Violence - Augustus Invictus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIlV8n3AdVo",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - WHAT MUST BE DONE,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1494399176 124924722,124924917,2017-05-10 06:55:48,NatSoc is the only real answer,,Anonymous,4e0f079b61d4a58e7899dee740b6ab335243a5ad002b353f392fdcf414ddaeb8.jpg,Lmx4uClCLdKlyXB8QFBWQQ==,US,,1494399348 124924722,124924931,2017-05-10 06:55:56,"just your friendly Natsoc dropping by, hey guys :^)",,Anonymous,8.jpg,+s/22jp97TpG09gkYAFiGw==,AU,,1494399356 124924722,124925040,2017-05-10 06:57:37,Bump,,Anonymous,1494338362373-pol.jpg,QCjbdZoXGWsvaJz7avbztg==,CA,,1494399457 124924722,124925109,2017-05-10 06:58:30,">>124924917 Hello :^)",,Anonymous,nat soc.jpg,oXJ+9jcI/fLk3k/FhN0sTg==,AU,,1494399510 124924722,124925613,2017-05-10 07:05:59,">>124924931 I like when we get along, fuck leftists. Hail Victory.",,Anonymous,helicopter__2_.png,A2Sf2d3PuRTCPfHDRBBiRg==,US,,1494399959 124924722,124925803,2017-05-10 07:08:33,Friendly reminder that Monarchy + Free Market is best,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494400113 124924722,124926069,2017-05-10 07:12:39,">>124925109 >>124924917 >Rely on the government to provide for and protect you No thanks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494400359 124924722,124927502,2017-05-10 07:32:19,Libertarians should just radicalize already and embrace unironic helicopter removal,,Anonymous,The_Humane_thing_to_do.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1494401539 124924722,124927688,2017-05-10 07:34:43,">hurr Pinochet was an ancap This last gasp of ancaps/libertarians trying to remain relevant is embarrassing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494401683 124924722,124928086,2017-05-10 07:39:49,">>124927688 He's an honorary AnCap for his brave defense of the free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494401989 124924722,124928375,2017-05-10 07:43:16,,,Anonymous,The_General.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1494402196 124924722,124929622,2017-05-10 08:00:19,Bump,,Anonymous,hsm__101_.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1494403219 124924722,124931095,2017-05-10 08:21:29,,,Anonymous,1ad6259918981df27fe93a872755cf650a7ced3c897e22695f3369892e0fc1f2_1.jpg,971l7sFnSZBYwT9RmwkNDQ==,US,,1494404489 124924722,124931250,2017-05-10 08:23:42,">>124924722 >corrupted dictator >libertarian where did this meme even come from?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1494404622 124924722,124931783,2017-05-10 08:31:14,">>124931250 He is a libertarian fascist.",,Anonymous,1475855545692.png,s4JiDLxsC5FS9BTNG4ftzQ==,US,,1494405074 124924722,124931807,2017-05-10 08:31:38,Authoritarian socialist here. 90% of humans are stupid and need to be lorded over with an iron fist. The other 10% deserve more freedom. This is all based on exams after secondary school.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494405098 124924722,124931844,2017-05-10 08:32:16,">Libertarian general >Posts a market fascism pic",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494405136 124924722,124932318,2017-05-10 08:38:24,">>124931783 >libertarian fascist nice meme",,MrLibertarian,,,BR,,1494405504 124924722,124933072,2017-05-10 08:48:12,">>124932318 Hopefully it will be recognized as more than a meme in the near future. I pray for a libertarian fascist future.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494406092 124924722,124933304,2017-05-10 08:50:40,">>124924722 >""PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace"" lol, keep larping friend",,Anonymous,tumblr_m1rshvklnf1rrjbgfo1_500.jpg,1AXa1HjzGEiT6Ls5ftWyCQ==,CO,,1494406240 124924722,124933483,2017-05-10 08:52:51,">>124933304 >tumblr the fuck are you doing here ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494406371 124924722,124933677,2017-05-10 08:55:08,">>124924931 >tfw level 8",,Anonymous,tay16.jpg,tXnqlKsSEoK+8wa6SWKXAA==,US,,1494406508 124924722,124933905,2017-05-10 08:57:37,">>124924722 is libertrian facism a meme or is it for real?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494406657 124924722,124934541,2017-05-10 09:04:51,">>124933905 I'm for real about it. We need fascism to attain a libertarian society. No matter of agorism or ""paradigm shift"" will ever take us to the promised land. We need an iron fist to overthrow democracy, free the markets, and liberate the people. We need a Pinochet. I'm far beyond saving gents, from taxation is theft, to Purge Marxists in a span of 7 years.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494407091 124924722,124935834,2017-05-10 09:20:16,,,Anonymous,1486330172280_pol.gif,NVpLQZZCftr2HhVNCI1POA==,US,,1494408016 124924722,124936842,2017-05-10 09:33:13,Libertarianism with Roman Catholicism is the best combination,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494408793 124924722,124936926,2017-05-10 09:34:08,">>124936842 I agree morality must be preserved for a libertarian society to function.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494408848 124924722,124936976,2017-05-10 09:34:45,">>124933905 In cold war chile at least, we killed Castro's close commie friend, replaced him with our fascist, economic reforms were led by a group of libertarians from Chicago, and commies were prosecuted. Chile is still one of south america's most stable and prosperous nations, with the highest gdp by quite a large margin",,Anonymous,ChicagoBoys.jpg,1d5STBKvj0vf5k+mergI7Q==,US,,1494408885 124924722,124937073,2017-05-10 09:35:52,">>124936926 Yes, and the church helps take care of the poor, social issues and spirituality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494408952 124924722,124937090,2017-05-10 09:36:00,">>124924931 tfw you're 8/10 on the redpill scale expectations have been exceeded",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494408960 124924722,124937481,2017-05-10 09:40:28,"Enough with this libertarianism Fascism meme. Stop being a bootlicker to a government and start working on improving your own life and community. No need to have a fascist state has ""transition"" for libertarianism, private cities, seasteading and the eventual break-up of the EU and the world economy will guarantee it happens.",,Anonymous,1494369450262.jpg,QXG0W7mxdnA6s/TdSy75+w==,PT,,1494409228 124924722,124937914,2017-05-10 09:45:38,"Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years, so in order to fill this void in my being I need to exert my internal problems onto other human beings by participating in slavery called ""government"". I actually care about people so much I think they should be required by gun point to help fund roads! So they can get to work of course... I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, and drugs. Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care of them anyway. I've never seen a pothole in my life. Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,aclEqmQcWEnFmg9gjgBH8Q==,US,,1494409538 124924722,124938189,2017-05-10 09:48:25,,,Anonymous,1483334522803.jpg,+lxcwyj9LwIzKJA/azYm+Q==,US,,1494409705 124924722,124938263,2017-05-10 09:49:11,,,Anonymous,1494288372414.png,zGO8NrVJ+JqdUTcNIT/klg==,US,,1494409751 124924722,124938297,2017-05-10 09:49:32,,,Anonymous,1494358109278.jpg,DIPClpab/CrLjGN4Z4d97w==,US,,1494409772 124924722,124938368,2017-05-10 09:50:22,">>124937481 I wish that it were true that privately owned cities would rise from the already totalitarian new world order, but they won't, and they will not. I still believe every ethical word of Rothbard, Hoppe, and Mises I've ever read. But at some point I have realized that we don't live in libertopia, people use aggression to get their way. If we don't do the same we will die or be replaced by leftists. It's about damn time someone used force for good. For protecting liberty in a world that wants us dead. We must do what is nessasary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494409822 124924722,124939249,2017-05-10 10:00:24,,,Anonymous,Econatmin.png,V3Ohh8DYSovWovucPJ642w==,MX,,1494410424 124924722,124939721,2017-05-10 10:05:22,">>124925803 Based Portuguese know what's up. This ancaps need to leave our threads. Minarchist all the way!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494410722 124924722,124940980,2017-05-10 10:18:54,">>124938368 Why do you think they won't? We're reaching the point where technology and P2P saves us from government control. When Bitcoin and the likes start gaining widespread influence after the state's (((fiat currency))) starts bursting it will be rendered defenseless. Unless they literally try to shut down the Internet, cryptocurrencies will be impossible to regulate or centralize. The states are pushing for eliminating physical cash, so we are enslaved to inflationary imaginary money. But now we have bitcoin to make digital scarcity a thing and prevent this from happening. Bitcoin will be the new gold. And I wouldn't be so pessimistic in terms of private cities. South Korea, Honduras, and India are already tinkering with the idea. And on top we have the Seasteading Institute making the first libertarian Rapture in the French Polynesia and movements like Liberland gaining traction. I'd like to think the New World Order will collapse because they're getting more and more cocky and arrogant each day, to the point where they're not even trying to hide it anymore (UN population replacement plans, the EU showing its teeth to the UK after Brexit, police agencies covering up migrant crimes, George Soros's name already being name dropped various times in the past years, etc.). I like to think it will be some sort of Babel Tower: they'll reach for the heavens and collapse under their own stupidity. We can only hope technology and secession gets off the ground soon enough. If not, then yes, we fire up the helicopters and stop playing nice with them. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/05/nick-giambruno/end-western-civilization/",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494411534 124924722,124941851,2017-05-10 10:27:24,">>124940980 >Jean Jacques Rousseau every time I hear or read his name I want to punch this Swiss faggot",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494412044 124924722,124942339,2017-05-10 10:32:15,">>124924931 >tfw was 9, am now 1",,Anonymous,1475499820097.png,rWV1cI5ZlcE90p0865DSMw==,GB,,1494412335 124924722,124942378,2017-05-10 10:32:36,">>124924722 i went full ancom a few years ago, but now i've decided that, at least for now, minarchism is the only pragmatic way to proceed with destroying/preventing ""statism."" i voted trump and still support him. maybe someday there can be a stefan-style (retro stefan) insurance-security company, but i don't see that happening in the next 20 years.",,Anonymous,free-state-project-logo.jpg,GyyEV1qxIOKVLgA3Zcd5bg==,US,,1494412356 124924722,124942620,2017-05-10 10:35:16,">>124924722 liberfags, good luck sustaining a strong white country with little to no state. first empire that crosses you will crush you",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494412516 124924722,124942754,2017-05-10 10:36:41,">>124934541 >we >society >we such collectivista",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494412601 124924722,124942807,2017-05-10 10:37:16,">>124933304 >tumblr HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494412636 124924722,124942876,2017-05-10 10:38:09,">>124940980 I hope you're right about the private cities. However I've seen little progress them. >New World Order will collapse because they're getting more and more cocky and arrogant each day, to the point where they're not even trying to hide it anymore Yes I agree, but it's very clear public knowledge of this is fueling nationalist moments, not libertarian movements they're secessionist now, But when the union is gone they will be expansionist empires as they always have been. Again I'm not in favor of these types of empires but they have use to us. >If not, then yes, we fire up the helicopters and stop playing nice with them. We should be firing up the choppers NOW! We have been aggressed upon for to Long. The market is not fixing the issue. We're drifting farther into totalitarianism. If anyone is to be subjugated it should be them and not us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494412689 124924722,124943003,2017-05-10 10:39:16,<--- liberfag heroes,,Anonymous,traitors.png,6AwPzRydqlPUpXJWpe3xpQ==,AR,,1494412756 124924722,124943016,2017-05-10 10:39:22,">>124937914 who needs roads when you can go for a free helicopter ride?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494412762 124924722,124943047,2017-05-10 10:39:38,">>124942754 Yes we, the libertarians are a tribe. We should protect each other.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494412778 124924722,124943169,2017-05-10 10:40:56,">>124943003 rothbard and mises are the only good ones there responding to bait anyway",,Anonymous,1491690754786.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1494412856 124924722,124943257,2017-05-10 10:41:55,">>124943047 you presume i owe you things. being a rugged individual requires you to stop telling me what to do.",,Anonymous,firstblood_helicpoter.jpg,0j2LZIQneeuiADGetJI+0w==,US,,1494412915 124924722,124943300,2017-05-10 10:42:21,">>124942876 How do we fire up the choppers? Isn't the average pleb too attached to his social security pension, his minimum wage laws and all sorts of ""rights"" that there'd be massive chaos if libertarians were to be elected and promised to remove them? I'm more inclined to say we should simply cull the herd and start afresh, but if it comes to the point where we must choose between nationalism and globalism, the former is comparatively better. The Singularity needs to hurry the fuck up.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494412941 124924722,124943360,2017-05-10 10:42:52,">>124943257 I have no intent of forcing you to do anything. You've got the wrong bloke.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494412972 124924722,124943375,2017-05-10 10:42:59,>>124943003,,Anonymous,kissingerpinochet-400x314.jpg,ay7jkaw2v9bX7ZY//Ji65A==,IE,,1494412979 124924722,124943477,2017-05-10 10:43:55,">>124943300 it can only happening two ways 1) very gradually 2) very violently >>124943360 ok then newfriend",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494413035 124924722,124943596,2017-05-10 10:45:18,">>124943375 wtf does pinochet have to do with me? Im from Argentina not Chile. he was a cuck to U.S jews. Anti-communism was part of the cold war. Free trade and extreme individualism benefit jews. Extreme collectivism such as communism does too. Too much individualism -> autism Too much collectivism -> Borg-like hive mind behaviour",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494413118 124924722,124943915,2017-05-10 10:48:54,"quick, keep the thread alive with moar bitter bickering!",,Anonymous,borat_sleeve-of-wizard.jpg,cZJP+uGKWU6DB+3da96ZHA==,US,,1494413334 124924722,124944024,2017-05-10 10:49:57,">>124943169 this doesn't even go far enough on the ""jew"" question. austrian economics is literally the result of the anti-jew side of economists from prewar germany. if you connect the dots between even casual influences from rothbard backward to mises and further to menger, even just on wikipedia, you'll see it. the austrian school has always been opposed to kibbutz-think.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494413397 124924722,124944139,2017-05-10 10:51:00,">>124944024 Can you expand more on that please?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494413460 124924722,124944159,2017-05-10 10:51:16,">>124936842 this",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494413476 124924722,124944186,2017-05-10 10:51:31,how the fuck does an ancap society stop child laborers/slaves from being a thing,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494413491 124924722,124944264,2017-05-10 10:52:35,">>124942378 >i went full ancom a few years ago wat",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494413555 124924722,124944382,2017-05-10 10:53:55,">>124944264 oops, typo. i meant ancap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494413635 124924722,124944404,2017-05-10 10:54:13,">>124944186 it doesn't. In fact they want a return to that",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494413653 124924722,124944535,2017-05-10 10:55:33,">>124944186 Because people don't like this now so they wouldn't like is in an ancap society ether. Having things less centrally controlled doesn't mean that people start suddenly liking and doing horrible practices.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494413733 124924722,124944684,2017-05-10 10:57:15,">>124944535 but who enforces these dislikes? liberty mutual?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494413835 124924722,124944897,2017-05-10 10:59:31,">>124944684 The people who are voting with their money. If a company does this and people don't like it, they just make that company go out of business by supporting their competitor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494413971 124924722,124944935,2017-05-10 11:00:02,">>124944684 with no state to enforce an agreed upon moral/ethic code, people would just do whatever they feel like, cause 'muh freedom'. A plutocracy would sooner than later develop, where the only law is i do what he who pays me more wants me to do.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494414002 124924722,124945029,2017-05-10 11:01:09,">>124943300 Libertarians need to worry less about intellectualism the non aggression principle not that it's not a great principle, but because it renders Libertarians impotent to the point that we call each other fascists when we try to make freedom happen now. Real liberators know we must use our physical strength to acheive freedom now. We must stop larping and join real serious secessionist and nationalist moments. Better ourselves, preserve our culture and make the libertarian future for ourselves. We must not simply cheer on the market we must be involved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414069 124924722,124945109,2017-05-10 11:01:54,">>124944935 Like what currently goes on?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414114 124924722,124945194,2017-05-10 11:02:49,">>124944897 in the meantime there are slaves >>124944935 see >>124929622 that's just what the commies want",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414169 124924722,124945251,2017-05-10 11:03:18,">>124945029 I do agree with this after seeing the events unfold in 2016-2017. We have to be more active and join in with potential allies more",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414198 124924722,124945285,2017-05-10 11:03:34,">>124945109 yes, you think liberfags are somehow against the current status quo? lmao jews laugh at you, your entire ideology was designed by them.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494414214 124924722,124945323,2017-05-10 11:03:57,">>124944897 But if you allow that sort of thing, there will always be a small core of people who support it financially. If you choose to allow legal child prostitution, then guess what? There will be small groups of people who do it even if the majority finds these activities to be morally disgusting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414237 124924722,124945406,2017-05-10 11:04:43,">>124924917 >>124924931",,Anonymous,Wehrboos.png,EhMKNZZVIRVi6d4jPL8stg==,US,,1494414283 124924722,124945421,2017-05-10 11:04:51,">>124943596 I know, Peron I was just posting it to trigger libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1494414291 124924722,124945426,2017-05-10 11:04:56,">>124945029 well said >>124945323 this too",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414296 124924722,124945447,2017-05-10 11:05:12,">>124945194 >in the meantime there are slaves There aren't slaves in modern countries because they are not economically efficient in a post industrial revolution society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414312 124924722,124945484,2017-05-10 11:05:36,">>124944139 yes but it will take a while. i'll leave recent history to people who know better the stories of keynes vs. hayek, rothbard vs. everybody, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Menger bohemian, opposed by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_von_Schmoller schmoller was the teacher of nigger-socialist w.e.b. dubois and others like him at this time the reigning intellectual competitions are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werturteilsstreit and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methodenstreit menger was influenced by: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tienne_Bonnot_de_Condillac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Brentano (scholastic) condillac was a contemporary of adam smith, close friend of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Quesnay who was a physiocrat, along with turgot. these are all pure european thinkers. the historical school was more than half american socialists, concerned with government policy, not with understanding the science of economics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414336 124924722,124945485,2017-05-10 11:05:36,">>124945285 >muh Jews This will never be a clever or insightful argument against anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414336 124924722,124945500,2017-05-10 11:05:41,Roads.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414341 124924722,124945556,2017-05-10 11:06:11,>>124933304,,Anonymous,Commautism.gif,m7DPtSpreCo2Mnx4n7VUWg==,US,,1494414371 124924722,124945563,2017-05-10 11:06:14,"notice how anarchists and commies have always been allies. why? because in theory communism ends in with the dissolution of the State.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494414374 124924722,124945645,2017-05-10 11:06:54,">>124945285 > your entire ideology was designed by them. t.never rode de Molinari",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494414414 124924722,124945666,2017-05-10 11:07:06,">>124945447 >There aren't slaves in modern countries because they are not economically efficient in a post industrial revolution society And because the government explicitly outlawed slavery.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414426 124924722,124945677,2017-05-10 11:07:13,">>124945447 making slaves work for you for free is always cheaper than paying people. you're being historically and/or industrially relative.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414433 124924722,124945738,2017-05-10 11:07:43,">>124945485 i know jews are behind communism and libertarianism. Not a coincidence, either.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494414463 124924722,124945784,2017-05-10 11:08:11,">>124945666 >>124945447 and let's not forget taxation is theft, therefore, you're a slave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414491 124924722,124945827,2017-05-10 11:08:39,">>124945563 >confusing ancom and ancap and this is why Argentinians will never be considered white",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494414519 124924722,124945856,2017-05-10 11:08:57,">>124945563 notice how commies think they're anarchists why? because in theory if you engage in aggressive violence enough then you don't have to have the rest of a theory",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414537 124924722,124945942,2017-05-10 11:09:40,">>124945323 Why do you think people would suddenly put up with child prostitution if control of society was decentralized? A free society is more directly controlled by the people and people hate child prostitution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414580 124924722,124945960,2017-05-10 11:09:49,"liberfag always push precious metal based economy. who has always controlled GOLD? yep, jews",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494414589 124924722,124946040,2017-05-10 11:10:37,">>124945406 don't forget >believes hyperinflation is just a normal government policy that will cause whites to outbreed everyone else",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414637 124924722,124946085,2017-05-10 11:11:14,">>124945942 without government, how do you raid a pedo's basement dungeon? what replaces warrants?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414674 124924722,124946093,2017-05-10 11:11:19,">>124945942 All my arguments are directed specifically towards ancaps. If we're talking in the context of a night-watchman state there would still be laws against child prostitution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414679 124924722,124946100,2017-05-10 11:11:23,">>124945960 but jews control fiat too what's the solution oh the whitest man of south america ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494414683 124924722,124946214,2017-05-10 11:12:28,>minarchy still winning,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414748 124924722,124946221,2017-05-10 11:12:32,">>124945677 No it isn't because you remove the economic incentives to work good and massive power from living things are never more efficient then mechanical equipment. Why is it not economically efficient to use horses anymore? That has the same answer that slavery has.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414752 124924722,124946243,2017-05-10 11:12:44,">>124945827 i dont give a shit about your an-whatever bullshit. you are cucked and so are all anarchists. if tried you wouldnt last 5 years, no organization at all. You would be crushed by the first semi-organized civilization that crosses you",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494414764 124924722,124946244,2017-05-10 11:12:45,">>124945738 The Jews are behind everything. Might as well just kill yourself, because no matter what ideology you support there will be Jews.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414765 124924722,124946331,2017-05-10 11:13:44,">>124946100 - get rid of jews - they don't control fiat anymore - profit",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494414824 124924722,124946396,2017-05-10 11:14:27,">>124929622 qt snek",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494414867 124924722,124946404,2017-05-10 11:14:33,">>124946085 why should anything replace them? they function fine, just not with a state monopoly on violence. the more people who can engage in violence lawfully, the better society is. also, the specific answer is letters of marque, which is primarily how the US fought in the barbary wars: privateers. if you don't even know basic facts about how government has already failed to do better than private citizens, even in a war, then why are you arguing at all? i don't even want you on my side if you're ignorant of history.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414873 124924722,124946427,2017-05-10 11:14:45,">>124946331 - get rid of jews - they don't control gold anymore - profit Sounds like you can do the same with ether.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414885 124924722,124946577,2017-05-10 11:15:59,"> war breaks out against anarchist country, invaders coming > man we gotta fight for our country or we all die > fuck that, you go to war im getting the fuck out of here",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494414959 124924722,124946594,2017-05-10 11:16:12,">>124946243 how long has somalia been without a government? 4.9 years? is it no longer ""libertarian paradise?"" please confirm.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494414972 124924722,124946601,2017-05-10 11:16:16,">>124946243 >you are cucked and so are all anarchists. >wanting nobody to rule you is being cucked genius",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494414976 124924722,124946654,2017-05-10 11:16:56,">>124946093 It would still be illegal in an ancap society because the people would support and uphold making it illegal and companies would cater to their customers (the people) to make money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415016 124924722,124946731,2017-05-10 11:17:43,">>124946427 why would you use gold then, instead of using it for useful industrial purposes? if it is because its scarce, you can choose many other things really to back a currency. why gold? why it HAS to be gold? you won't find many libertard wanting to get rid of jews, so jews would certainly control a libertard society",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494415063 124924722,124946760,2017-05-10 11:18:01,">>124946577 the CNT fought until death hate commies but your strawman don't seem to work",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494415081 124924722,124946805,2017-05-10 11:18:33,">>124946594 It has three governments fighting each other in a civil war. Not libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415113 124924722,124946822,2017-05-10 11:18:42,">>124946594 somalia is full of niggers nothing can work there",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494415122 124924722,124946844,2017-05-10 11:18:51,">>124946221 some people (texans for example) still use horses. not getting tortured is a stronger incentive than the possibility of affording a benz. >>124946404 currently judges (aka magistrates) issue warrants. who would replace them? idk what ""letters of marque"" are. nothing wrong with the barbary wars, but that was, at best, minarchy. >if you don't even know what don't i know, faggot?",,Anonymous,mao-murder.jpg,7Z9R6ugPpUvF2AbLeo2Mfw==,US,,1494415131 124924722,124947011,2017-05-10 11:20:20,">>124946731 I just used gold to make a point. I don't know what will be the most efficient currency put trail and error in a free society would solve that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415220 124924722,124947079,2017-05-10 11:21:01,">>124946601 you deny superiority superior people must rule and help society upgrade and become superior too superior people rule and make history. Its always been like this. Anarchofags are more like hermits, very deep inside they actually hate people and themselves",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494415261 124924722,124947137,2017-05-10 11:21:37,">>124924722 Its weird that you liberals support freedumbs but suck fascist at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1494415297 124924722,124947156,2017-05-10 11:21:49,">>124947011 you'll find 95% of libertards want to use gold, and you won't convince them of anything else",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494415309 124924722,124947178,2017-05-10 11:22:03,">>124946805 yet they have some internet and show up in 4chan often unlike socialist paradises like Cuba and NK",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494415323 124924722,124947199,2017-05-10 11:22:20,">>124946844 Also private courts are payed by people to enforce laws the customers want. If enough people hate slavery (which they do) then it would be illegal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415340 124924722,124947210,2017-05-10 11:22:31,>>124947156,,Anonymous,bitcoin.png,/pvGFN9p6jt7Zfc7CVLSBQ==,US,,1494415351 124924722,124947227,2017-05-10 11:22:39,">>124946654 >because the people would support and uphold making it illegal By what mechanism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415359 124924722,124947263,2017-05-10 11:23:05,">>124947199 paid",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494415385 124924722,124947324,2017-05-10 11:23:42,">>124947199 valid point",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415422 124924722,124947378,2017-05-10 11:24:19,">>124947178 So does the Ukraine.. Is that a libertarian country now too because it's in a civil are?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415459 124924722,124947465,2017-05-10 11:25:08,I'm outta here. You libertards will be crushed by the coming NatSoc revolution!,,Anonymous,asd.png,nvg56XNJkTOMV24zaWKw1w==,AR,,1494415508 124924722,124947466,2017-05-10 11:25:09,">>124947079 >superior people must rule and help society upgrade and become superior too >superior people rule and make history. Its always been like this. so superior men should breed your wife because they would have better offspring ? nice logic you have there >Anarchofags are more like hermits, very deep inside they actually hate people and themselves why are you using the same tactics as leftists when they talk about racists ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494415509 124924722,124947627,2017-05-10 11:26:46,">>124947465 daily reminder that NatSocs are collectivists too",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415606 124924722,124947632,2017-05-10 11:26:51,">>124947465 >be nazis >be Argentinian >flee after being refuted I see historic pattern here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494415611 124924722,124947773,2017-05-10 11:28:07,">>124945029 >>124945251 Right wing populism + nationalism? I'm all for it famalams.",,Anonymous,1493026316916.png,Yu1ZHueNGESOb9WnP7Gazw==,PT,,1494415687 124924722,124947780,2017-05-10 11:28:13,">>124947199 What if two people living in the same town want conflicting laws and subscribe to different ""courts""? Who wins?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415693 124924722,124947786,2017-05-10 11:28:18,">>124947632 you didn't refute shit. You are not worth my time, anarchofag",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494415698 124924722,124947798,2017-05-10 11:28:23,">>124947137 >>124947137 I agree, libertarian fascism for the win.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415703 124924722,124947826,2017-05-10 11:28:39,">>124947632 i agree. in related news, why did you baguettes just elect a nazi?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415719 124924722,124947875,2017-05-10 11:29:02,">>124947627 Nazi-> balance between individualism & collectivism. liberfags are extreme individualist commies are extreme collectivists",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494415742 124924722,124948005,2017-05-10 11:30:28,">>124947773 Chill as fuck. Crush commies, physically remove them in the meme sense. There is no time for NAPs during war.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415828 124924722,124948006,2017-05-10 11:30:28,">>124931250 shared hatred of marxists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415828 124924722,124948031,2017-05-10 11:30:42,">>124947875 you failed to make an argument for or against individualism or collectivism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415842 124924722,124948108,2017-05-10 11:31:28,">>124947875 No egoists like Stirner are extreme individualists. Libertarians are for collectives if they are voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415888 124924722,124948130,2017-05-10 11:31:43,">>124948031 as did you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415903 124924722,124948168,2017-05-10 11:32:13,">>124947786 >y-you refuted shit ! >you worth nothing but I still need to answer you ! so easy to bait then why don't you respond to this >>124945645 >>124946760 >>124947466",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494415933 124924722,124948262,2017-05-10 11:33:11,">>124942378 >free >state pick one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494415991 124924722,124948459,2017-05-10 11:35:06,>>124943003,,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,US,,1494416106 124924722,124948584,2017-05-10 11:36:03,">>124948130 >>124948108 k, let me clarify. VOLUNTARY collectivism doesn't violate the NAP, but in most cases, ie hippie communes, it's degenerate and fails bc, muh price discovery. individualism is inherently VOLUNTARY and always leads to efficient price discovery.",,Anonymous,john-galt.jpg,FSDGNiovnN6ElfSvdVHvXQ==,US,,1494416163 124924722,124948759,2017-05-10 11:37:43,">>124948130 so in other words, hitler was a dirty hippie, except with an army.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494416263 124924722,124949196,2017-05-10 11:42:00,">>124948584 Yes I understand, my point was to clarify that individualism does not mean degeneracy, abandonment of the family and so on NatSoc gets real uppity about that farce they've made about individualism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494416520 124924722,124949726,2017-05-10 11:47:28,">>124949196 We don't reject individualism, duh. Some degrees of it are needed otherwise you end up with a mob of sheeple who can't think for themselves at all. NatSoc doesn't want a sheep population. They want strong, thinking individuals who pertain to a collective and prioritize its well being over their petty wants and needs. No, you don't have the freedom to do as you please if it affects negatively the well being and functioning of society in any way. Now the other extreme, collectivism. Means mob rule, and more often than not the mob is wrong. The NatSoc state would always side with who's right, not the majority. And would certainly educate the mob as to why a minority is right in a certain case. Get it now?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494416848 124924722,124950035,2017-05-10 11:50:33,Is NatCap a thing?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494417033 124924722,124950180,2017-05-10 11:51:54,">>124949726 You may not make progress with my pals in this thread, but I understand you perfectly. What you must understand is that freedom is a moral principle. And a destructive immoral society that does whatever it wants can never be equated to a Truly free society. Slavery, degeneracy are all barriers to freedom. We have more in common than you think. Much like fascism, national socialism and the like we embrace natural law and natural elites.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494417114 124924722,124950226,2017-05-10 11:52:22,">>124950035 Oxymoron. Free trade will always lead to global market, global corps and global banks. Which will undermine nationalism.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494417142 124924722,124950294,2017-05-10 11:52:56,"Forgot image >>124950035 Yes, libertarian fascism is a thing.",,Anonymous,quote_freedom_does_not_mean_that_right_to_do_whatever_we_please_but_rather_to_do_as_we_ought_fulton_j_sheen_94_3_0312.jpg,OZFWkqtBzu2EcOgXEPfaKw==,US,,1494417176 124924722,124950383,2017-05-10 11:53:46,">>124950180 Good. Then it's a matter of finding a common ground. It is human nature and law to have rulers and rules. Nature is aristocratic.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494417226 124924722,124950481,2017-05-10 11:54:41,">>124949726 >The NatSoc state would always side with who's right because the government is filled with benevolent angels that surely won't act in their own interest and stomp me when I get out of line. So naive you might as well be a communist.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494417281 124924722,124950931,2017-05-10 11:59:01,">>124950481 The only NatSoc state which existed may not have been perfect and abused the power of the masses, but such were the times and we wouldn't make the same mistake today. We live in the information age now and the masses can be educated as never before in all issues. So in no way could the govt stomp on anyone or they would be opposed by the majority and replaced with true leaders.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494417541 124924722,124951114,2017-05-10 12:00:47,">>124950931 >Real x hasn't been tried before! >But x would work much better in industrial/information age! Hmm where have I heard this before?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494417647 124924722,124951166,2017-05-10 12:01:31,">>124950383 Yes, but a leader who subjugates his people, much like the empires that exist today cannot be considered natural elites but rather tyrants that reject the natural order and choose to Rob steal and murder for material wealth. They are satanic leftists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494417691 124924722,124951431,2017-05-10 12:04:10,">>124951114 listen, douche. Ofc govt ruled by jews such as in the USSR will never be filled with benevolent angels. But a govt filled with the best of the white race sure can. And if they act in their self-interest and not the interest of the race and country, they will have to deal with a totally armed population unlike soviet shitholes.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494417850 124924722,124951693,2017-05-10 12:06:46,">>124951166 Yes, thats why in NatSoc, the elites would be the very best of the race. The criteria for being elite would be based on race, not money. Money is the criteria used today, thats why we got tyrants cause they are jew puppets and jews own all the $.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494418006 124924722,124951887,2017-05-10 12:08:33,">>124951431 >Give people absolute power >Expect them not to abuse it >Only way to get rid of them is civil war And you idiots call ancaps delusional and not aware of ""human nature""... >best of the white race How do they get selected?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494418113 124924722,124952448,2017-05-10 12:14:36,">>124951693 Please explain further your criteria for rulers. If it is chosen by race in a homogenous society then all people would be fit for being the rulers. You sound like an anarchist (not to be confused with Marxism), I'm certain this is not what you meant right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494418476 124924722,124952686,2017-05-10 12:16:49,">>124924722 Okay LRG fags riddle me this Geoist ethics postulate that the morally proper owners of the land rent are the members of the relevant community, in equal shares. Therefore the pure public collection of the rent for distribution to the community is not a renting from the state but a payment to the proper owners. If one is renting, then it is from the community members. Now suppose there is no tax in a voluntary libertarian society. The homeowners wants to benefit from public services such as streets, security, fire protection, parks, transit, and utilities. In today’s statist world, taxation pays for these civic goods, and since only a portion of the taxes come from land rent, in effect the landowner is subsidized. In an anarchist world, landowners would have to directly pay for civic goods and services. They would belong to homeowners’ associations, condominiums, and other contractual communities, in order to benefit from streets and other civic goods. If you own a unit in a condominium association and pay monthly assessments or dues, are you renting the unit from the association? Perhaps indeed you are renting the common elements. Then any periodic payment is a rental. But it makes more sense to think of this relationship as a utility fee, just as paying for electricity does not imply that one is renting the utility from the provider. Who owns the water that comes out of the tap? The homeowner owns that water, not the water company continued.......",,Georgist,"Poll tax, LVT, Income tax.png",vMTrYQ0YxJLGNAWpOt3grg==,US,,1494418609 124924722,124952717,2017-05-10 12:17:09,">>124952686 Therefore those who complain that paying a tax on land implies that one is renting the land are engaging in semantics, and are also not confronting the basic moral question, who is the proper owner of the benefits from the land that nobody created? Even if the title holder is the proper owner, he will have to, from his land rent, periodically pay those who provide the public goods that service the land, and will thus be unable to avoid being a renter. The proposition that paying a land tax implies being a renter is therefore both true and false, and irrelevant to policy.",,Georgist,k41V9sG.jpg,ZyhaoL9vTAUfTbHmXq59+A==,US,,1494418629 124924722,124952755,2017-05-10 12:17:32,">>124951887 Nazi germany controlled all media cause they had to deal with outsider propaganda. So people had to rely on the govt for info. Today we got internet, and modern forms of communication would ensure people are up to date on all issues affecting their country, and they would also know exactly how their govt is acting, besides DEMANDING that the leaders are transparent and no shady bullshit is going on. If someone in power is acting in self interest or corrupt, it would be known INMEDIATLY because such is the way the whole system would be built. And as such this person would be removed from power. It would never reach the point of civil war unless somehow a complex and systematic decieving is going on in govt. Then at least the population would be heavily armed unlike commie states. To select the best, the population would be subjected to numerous tests and exams using the latest modern scientific knowledge on anthropology, psychology, medicine, etc. Physical tests, intelligence tests of all kind, art tests, writing and reading, emotional tests, what people tend to act in self interest and otherwhise, and a big long etc.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494418652 124924722,124952931,2017-05-10 12:19:19,">>124952448 All people would be fit, but they must pass numerous tests. Only the top of the top would make it. The criteria for the tests would be based on consent.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494418759 124924722,124953765,2017-05-10 12:27:24,">>124952931 Such is the austro-libertarian method. These muh-statism folk here don't get that, but essentially you're a racially aware AnCap without the dogma of libertarianism. I approve of your methods if you're words are true. Hail Victory.",,Anonymous,Pol__2__0.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1494419244 124924722,124953942,2017-05-10 12:29:10,">>124952755 >they would also know exactly how their govt is acting So fascists are now in favour of freedom of the press? Since when? Aren't you people always arguing that anything the government deems Jewish degeneracy is forbidden? Wouldn't it follow suit that the government with such motives and power would just suspend access to the internet and give the state press a monopoly? I'm sure that would improve the quality of propa- Oh I mean information by a lot. >And as such this person would be removed from power. Through the power of wishful thinking, right? You can't even remove these fucks through democracy and now you give them absolute power. What could go wrong? >unless somehow a complex and systematic decieving is going on in govt Seems familiar. Now remove alternative media, add some ridiculous penalties for speaking against the government and you have your perfect system. >the population would be heavily armed Lol why would these rulers not take away the people weapons if that's the only thing stopping them from shitting on the people even more? >numerous tests and exams Made by who? Marxist professors? That'll go well.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494419350 124924722,124954942,2017-05-10 12:38:46,">>124950226 no only the state can push ""global"" anything, free trade is more about partitions",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494419926 124924722,124955867,2017-05-10 12:47:56,">>124953765 How is the best of the race ruling anarchism in any way? I thought An implies no rulers or govt?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494420476 124924722,124956036,2017-05-10 12:49:38,">>124945406 look who's back, the guy who says Nazism, Germanism and antisemitism are basically the same to disagree with a guy who opposes a thread whose most celebrated guy is a German who said that two Jews are the best economists of all time",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494420578 124924722,124956481,2017-05-10 12:53:34,">>124953942 > So fascists are now.. It is assumed when establishing the new NatSoc state that Jewry has been dealt with in the West and as such they have no power in the western media. >Through the power of wishful thinking.. No, through the power of firearms, dumbass. > Seems familiar. Little to no censorship would exist. Germans were constantly under attack in the 30s by international press. Refer to my other point. Censorship would only be for absolute degeneracy. But then again, without jews fucking around there would be almost none. > lol why would these rulers not take again people weapon They can try if they want, but they certainly won't be inclined to do so. Maybe the first govt does, and it will be exterminated. The second one will think twice about it. >made by who? Marxists? No, Marxism along with jews would be dealt in the west. Made by smart, rational people with no stupid hang-ups, ie REALISTS",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494420814 124924722,124956689,2017-05-10 12:55:37,">>124945406 >>124956036 the performance you had in the last thread I saw was seriously the most stupid I have ever seen in a /pol/ thread, so much that I had to make pic related which I post from now on threads where shits like you feel to the need to constantly hate on us for no reason >>123016753",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494420937 124924722,124956910,2017-05-10 12:57:47,">>124945406 >>124956036 the performance you had in the last thread I saw you was seriously the most stupid I have ever seen in a /pol/ thread, so much that I had to make pic related which I post from now on threads where shits like you feel to the need to constantly hate on us for no reason >>123016753",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494421067 124924722,124956932,2017-05-10 12:58:01,">>124955867 Any hierarchy based in consent is not what we call a ""state"" or ""government"" if everyone consents the furher is not a ""ruler"" at all but rather the head of the family. He is not ""ruling"" with coercion or threats. Consent is consent. It is voluntarism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494421081 124924722,124957121,2017-05-10 12:59:55,">>124955867 May I add the opposition to you in my camp is that NatSoc is not based in consent. Prove it and you have some new friends.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494421195 124924722,124957475,2017-05-10 13:02:59,">>124956932 But the complexities of modern societies require an organization/institution, a face, which we call State or Government. Yes, it would be like a head of family, but also a leader, someone who LEADS to the right path. As opposed to a boss who just gives you orders and you must obey. Anarchism is opposed to hierarchy. Not just government/state. As such I can never be An-anything. I am NatSoc.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494421379 124924722,124957728,2017-05-10 13:05:26,">>124945406 >>124946040 don't forget >invented the car, the computer, bookprinting and countless other important things >hadsome of the greatest scientists, composers and philosophers >one of the best countries to live in but yeah, Germany lost WW2 and the winners decided what happened afterwards but now Europe is in the shitter so you actually think that it's Germans who you should go against you dumbasses",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494421526 124924722,124957741,2017-05-10 13:05:33,">>124957121 People must consent to their new rulers (the natsocs) otherwise the natsocs can never gain power. Refer the points i made to Slovenia. If the NatSoc rulers try any shit against the general consensus which perjudicates society in any way, they will be dealt with. Germany wanted Hitler in the 30s. They consented.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494421533 124924722,124957797,2017-05-10 13:05:59,"Honest Question, Say if someone who has a life debilitiating disability is born, What will happen to him",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494421559 124924722,124957798,2017-05-10 13:06:00,"Libertianism in the USA is a meme. I joined a libertarian reddit and it is fulll of pseudo intellectual, autistic NEETS, who have no idea how the world really works. Libertarians had a chance with the Pauls but that is long gone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494421560 124924722,124957884,2017-05-10 13:06:50,">>124924722 Marx's greatest legacy is anti-intellectualism. You people will enjoy this. https://fee.org/articles/marxs-legacy-is-anti-intellectualism/?utm_source=FEE+Email+Subscriber+List&utm_campaign=e29c695ddc-MC_FEE_DAILY_2017_05_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_84cc8d089b-e29c695ddc-108142609",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494421610 124924722,124957885,2017-05-10 13:06:50,">>124957798 >Reddit Theres you answer then. It's like Actual White Nationlists in the 50's vs the Larping Fat virgins on Pol today",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494421610 124924722,124957907,2017-05-10 13:07:04,"Why do lolbertarians have morals? They obviously don't have a love for their people or they would be NatSoc. They are just like a babby version of AnCap, they are too cucked and with no balls to do fucked up things for money, but again, they still have no love for their people. It is the most cucked ideology there is and it is for level 1 thinking brainlets.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494421624 124924722,124958059,2017-05-10 13:08:16,">>124957907 >cucked brainlets Sounds liek whitetrash welfare leeches like NatSocs",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494421696 124924722,124958117,2017-05-10 13:08:47,">>124957885 or Jean Marie le Pen's policies vs Malika..uh Marine le Pen's",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494421727 124924722,124958131,2017-05-10 13:08:55,">>124956481 So you think the Jews are literally behind everything bad and whites are just automatically perfect? Do you think Macron or Hillary would be any less scummy without Jews? Time to get some fresh air and close /pol/. >through the power of firearms The state will always go for your guns. The more power you give the state the better chance it has of disarming you. >Maybe the first govt does After the civil war, right? >The second one will think twice about it. There is no shortage of power hungry cunts that will go for more power as long as they have access to tax funded police and military they can throw at the rabble. And because you structured your government in such a way that nobody but the cuntiest among them get access to the seat of power you're sure to eventually succumb to totalitarianism or restructure the way your government operates. >Made by smart, rational people with no stupid hang-ups More wishful thinking.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494421735 124924722,124958196,2017-05-10 13:09:34,">>124957798 >>124957885 Sorry I meant discord",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494421774 124924722,124958226,2017-05-10 13:09:47,">>124957475 Marxism is opposed to hierarchy. (No classes) true anarchism is very hierarchal. We're having a disagreement on what the meaning of the word government is so let me clarify. The state as we define it is a band of gangs that robs and kills and has a monopoly of power. Your nation by consent by definition cannot be considered a ""government"" by our terminology. I understand that you consider the government to be an extension of the people and not a murderer of their.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494421787 124924722,124958234,2017-05-10 13:09:50,">>124958117 I dont know much about French Politics but wasnt Jean Marie like a full on NatSoc hates jews and shit",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494421790 124924722,124958306,2017-05-10 13:10:20,">>124957797 In NatSoc he will be treated well and cared for, but he will not in any case have offspring. Disabilities caused by genetic mutation have to be purged from the gene pool so that the burden is lifted from everyone.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494421820 124924722,124958377,2017-05-10 13:10:54,Fascism to keep the decadence down and gun rights to keep the government in check is the best possible system.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494421854 124924722,124958417,2017-05-10 13:11:11,">>124957907 Is NatSoc even a real ideology? It seems like just blatant Hitler worship, and Hitler honestly isn't worthy of worship. I can tell you right now that your only response will be to accuse me of Jewishness, which in itself is proof of anti-intellectualism, because you cannot address the argument, only attempt to ""unmask"" the opposition as something you dislike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494421871 124924722,124958569,2017-05-10 13:12:36,">>124958417 Basic questions like that are best left to google.com",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494421956 124924722,124958577,2017-05-10 13:12:41,">>124958226 >Murderer or thief",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494421961 124924722,124958794,2017-05-10 13:14:31,">>124957797 Anyone with partial disabilities can focus on things others won't. In Economics, trade theory teaches us about comparative advantage. You dont need everyone to excel at everything, you just need to excel at one thing others dont want to do. So a person with no legs, for example, can still focus on intellectual activities. A retard can focus on sports. An idiot can focus in art, etc.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494422071 124924722,124958843,2017-05-10 13:14:58,">>124933905 well, frent, look at it that way >is the merchant a meme or is it for real ? >>124924722 You need to lose the labels and pick up pace on a state of being ( a /pol/ state of being ) not on the seek of a ultimate confining pot the divides and alienates you , >grasshopper.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1494422098 124924722,124958925,2017-05-10 13:15:44,">>124958234 yes,he was more right-wing on economics but yes,he was too based for the average frog and Marine names faggots,masons and jew communists in the head of her party focusing more about helping the poor and talks practically no more about immigration and braindeads call it the far-right",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494422144 124924722,124958945,2017-05-10 13:15:53,">>124958226 > The state as we define it is a band of gangs that robs and kills and has monopoly of power. Well that is your biased definition, and not a just one. You imply that the state by default is this. Yes govt is an extension of the true power which lies in the people. The state is the govt plus its national extensions. But many times i use the word as synonyms, that's my fault for not being entirely accurate. Im in 4chan not writing a book :P How would it be called then in your terminology, the institution of the rulers formed by the best of the race? I call it government, which belongs to the State, which is the face of the Nation.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494422153 124924722,124958978,2017-05-10 13:16:07,">>124958569 You are free to go then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494422167 124924722,124959124,2017-05-10 13:17:28,">>124958377 kinda like what im advocating in this thread. But NatSoc is not exactly Fascism.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494422248 124924722,124959197,2017-05-10 13:18:10,">>124958945 >that's not MY definition I want sjw niggers off my board",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494422290 124924722,124959477,2017-05-10 13:20:34,">>124958377 >Fascist Society >Owning guns Oxymoron",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494422434 124924722,124959499,2017-05-10 13:20:44,Tell me we don't have the best political philosopher.,,Anonymous,Žižek vs Hoppe.jpg,SLuMy/m0lfDEo1n2XfxfIA==,US,,1494422444 124924722,124959514,2017-05-10 13:20:56,">>124925803 Monarchy is seriously the most unnecessarily thing you can imagine. Only a leech on the taxpayers",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494422456 124924722,124959681,2017-05-10 13:22:36,">>124958131 >Macron >Hillary > as examples of 'white' lmao, those two are jews, tard > The state will always go for your guns. The more power you give the state the better chance it has of disarming you. Biased as fuck. The first American state gave its citizens the RIGHT to bear firearms, and so would the NatSoc state. >After the civil war? No, attempting to disarm would lead to civil war, not the other way around >there is.. no taxes in perfectly applied NatSoc. Educate yourself first. Here, try this: http://truthforgermans.com/wp-content/uploads/Gottfried-Feder-The-Manifesto-of-Breaking-the-Thraldom-of-Interest.pdf > wishful thinking We will see...",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494422556 124924722,124959713,2017-05-10 13:22:55,">>124958925 Also kind of Unrelated as I cant find a source on this, but what is Macrons Policy on the Military Spending",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494422575 124924722,124959796,2017-05-10 13:23:40,">NatSoc general thread >normal thread, nobody shitposts >Libertarian general thread >NatSoc take over and spew shit everywhere Are NatSoc fags the niggers of /pol/?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494422620 124924722,124959801,2017-05-10 13:23:44,">>124958945 I'd call it a Nation. Not a state, but whatever, semantics. You're alright with me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494422624 124924722,124959840,2017-05-10 13:23:55,">>124943003 Who cares about Milton and Rand? And btw Rothbard was Agnostic jew",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494422635 124924722,124959858,2017-05-10 13:24:09,">>124958377 >we need powerful government to control the people >but the people should have guns incase they don't like being controlled anymore",,Anonymous,image.png,lrUw619JfPtBBhUohSa9LA==,GB,,1494422649 124924722,124959868,2017-05-10 13:24:14,">>124959197 well if you're gonna base your definition on history yes you are moderately right, although a bit biased. The state doesn't have to be like that, thats why NatSoc exists.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494422654 124924722,124960019,2017-05-10 13:25:27,">>124959868 How is your form of government literally not that exact definition, nigger?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494422727 124924722,124960130,2017-05-10 13:26:27,">>124959681 Hitler banned firearms, burned books, confiscated property, and sent people to forced labor camps as punishment for imaginary crimes. There is simply no way to defend any of that from a libertarian standpoint.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494422787 124924722,124960428,2017-05-10 13:28:57,">>124959477 >>124959858 USA is somewhat authoritarian and corrupt but they have gun rights. They take peoples money at gun point(taxes) and use it to slowly genocide the population. But thanks to their gun rights there is no outright genocide.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494422937 124924722,124960482,2017-05-10 13:29:23,"Do any of your read Bleeding Heart Libertarians? It is a collection of academic libertarians that try to make libertarianism look friendlier to normies. They have a legit hate boner for Hoppe, and I was wondering what your take is http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2013/12/hoppes-argumentation-ethics-argument-refuted-in-under-60-seconds/",,Anonymous,1392578382930.gif,uDeCZ8EWAZNybzLBVMkoeA==,US,,1494422963 124924722,124960618,2017-05-10 13:30:36,">>124960019 Cause 1) yes it would have a monopoly on power, but this power can be taken from them by the armed citizens at any point. It can't subjugate its citizens with force. and 2) it wouldn't rob and kill anyone but those trying to seriously perjudicate the country. Like the nazis 'robbed' the Rothschild (yes they confiscated their assets), but he deserved it and killed or expelled some jews, who also deserved it.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494423036 124924722,124960669,2017-05-10 13:31:04,">>124959499 seeing them debating would be very interesting even though ethics of argumentation is pretty cheating >you must own yourself for debating me,reject Marxism bitch >ideological swine you don't take account the real world,pure ideology,you're just locked yourself in apriori metaphysics >says the guy who take Marx seriously,a drunktard who believed in a workers revolution would be very fun",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494423064 124924722,124960758,2017-05-10 13:31:47,">>124959681 >those two are jews All right I guess you're just trolling at this point. >The first American state gave its citizens the RIGHT to bear firearms Yea and that right has been eroded to shit because the state grew. The founders weren't fascists you idiot. The US government at the beginning had minimal power and minimal taxes. >no taxes in perfectly applied NatSoc Moronic.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494423107 124924722,124960881,2017-05-10 13:32:44,>>124924722,,Anonymous,1494006286520.jpg,ivDUaZJwGl6nsdlk6ved5A==,DE,,1494423164 124924722,124960964,2017-05-10 13:33:27,">>124960130 > banned firearms not true, only commies and jews were disarmed. Not even all jews were disarmed. Yes, many jews were living freely in Nazi Germany and they had weapons too. >burned books only jewish degenerate propaganda was burned >confiscated property only jewish criminal scum property was confiscated > forced labor camps not imaginary, my friend. You americans are affected by 70+ of post WW2 propaganda, you know shit about NS Germany.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494423207 124924722,124960981,2017-05-10 13:33:37,,,Anonymous,1492881046096.png,ahFTJO3/OU6DEKOa3HHxCA==,DE,,1494423217 124924722,124961032,2017-05-10 13:34:06,,,Anonymous,1490859492642.jpg,E7LD81p//m/yvZKTg7X5lQ==,DE,,1494423246 124924722,124961103,2017-05-10 13:34:43,,,Anonymous,1492881580353.jpg,l0ANS8XkUQvWoXS4j5qoXA==,DE,,1494423283 124924722,124961237,2017-05-10 13:35:50,">>124959681 >Argentina saying who is and who isn't white",,Anonymous,asdsdwqe.png,rUr0VoLR9XnNfz2xNJfx6g==,SE,,1494423350 124924722,124961271,2017-05-10 13:36:14,">>124960758 whatever, dumbass. Its not my fault you're ignorant about it. NatSoc govt would also become less totalitarian with time, as urgent issues have been dealt with. It would end up looking like early U.S republic in many aspects, too. NatSoc, same as founding fathers of U.S, is inspired in classical Greek ideals.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494423374 124924722,124961341,2017-05-10 13:36:52,"Kek, being right is cheating in a debate. Hail Hoppe!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494423412 124924722,124961431,2017-05-10 13:37:30,">>124961237 we'll be whiter than you the way you're going, very soon Sven.. me and 30% of Arg has no mud blood in them, neither negro nor native.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494423450 124924722,124961508,2017-05-10 13:38:10,">>124960618 1)just because they can fight back does not mean it is not a mob trying to dictate what people do. 2) >it is for your own good Still a mob trying to dictate people, argentianian nigger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494423490 124924722,124961673,2017-05-10 13:39:37,">>124960964 >only jewish degenerate propaganda was burned So the completely arbitrary criteria of ""Jewish degeneracy"" is used as justification for mass censorship. >only jewish criminal scum property was confiscated I'm simply not onboard with the premise that somebody merely being Jewish is a rationale justification for blatantly suspending property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494423577 124924722,124961745,2017-05-10 13:40:24,">>124959858 >anime poster doesn't realize USA is a left wing Jewish authoritarian state with gun rights >anime poster doesn't realize gun rights could work in Christian fascist state",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494423624 124924722,124961898,2017-05-10 13:41:46,">>124961508 Those not agreeing with the rule of the best of their race will be like 5% at most. Fuck them they can move to another country, a liberal shithole will surely welcome them.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494423706 124924722,124962202,2017-05-10 13:44:25,">>124961673 >so the completely.. The criteria of what makes superior people is used, tried and tested. We want superior civilization and citizens, not degenerate scum like in jewish shitholes, ie most of the world today. >i'm simply not on board... He doesn't belong in the country in the first place, why should he be entitled to property in it? Jews must go back to their desert.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494423865 124924722,124962257,2017-05-10 13:45:03,">>124961898 Thanks for admitting the original posters definition is correct. Jesus, Argentianian schools are definitely subpar",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494423903 124924722,124962325,2017-05-10 13:45:39,">>124931250 he made chile great for the first time with free-market freedom-enabling policies",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494423939 124924722,124962428,2017-05-10 13:46:31,">>124924917 >da joos have too much power to we should create a dictatorship",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494423991 124924722,124962556,2017-05-10 13:47:43,">>124960482 >hurr durr it's a claim right so it has nothing to do with me spewing bullshit but the debater has no obligations towards you,he only have the liberty of saying shit,but it implies that he has the capacity of it through ownership of his own,it has jack shit to do with responsibility If I didn't get what he was meaning (french and english don't mix up well) could you simplify it ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494424063 124924722,124962558,2017-05-10 13:47:45,">>124934541 this is true, actually Has anyone enacted libertarian policies or free-market reform as quickly and effectively as the likes of Pinochet and Lee Kuan Yew? A couple years of them and they made more victories for laisses-faire in their countries became far more laissez-faire than decades of muh blogging and muh preaching to the choir ever did",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494424065 124924722,124962684,2017-05-10 13:48:50,">>124962325 >after asking Milton Friedman for advice on the economy >NatSoc end up praising Pinochet and still shitting on Jews after a Jew helped Pinochet",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494424130 124924722,124962710,2017-05-10 13:49:00,">>124962257 what, gang of robbers and killers? this 5% would not be killed nor robbed, just silenced. If they keep fucking around they will be expelled. They can move to a ""free"" country. If the 'mob dictating' is 95% of the fucking population, who are they dictating, the 'poor oppresed 5%' ? Who's sounding like a SJW now?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494424140 124924722,124962746,2017-05-10 13:49:21,">>124962202 >We want superior civilization and citizens And the free market natural drives people to be superior, more often than not. Unlike some of the other people here, I'm not completely opposed to government regulation, but usually it isn't needed. And why are you entitled to somebody else's property, purely based on his ethnicity? The simple answer is that you aren't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494424161 124924722,124962876,2017-05-10 13:50:24,">>124962684 >natsoc Milton is ourguy and pinochet was wise to let him do his thing.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494424224 124924722,124963358,2017-05-10 13:54:26,">>124962746 lol you probably wouldnt have a problem getting rid of negros in your country and taking their property, but somehow jews are protected? We are entitled cause they insisted on entering white land and fucking around for more than 100 times, screwed everything up, and the uber rich ones did nothing but literally print money and lend it with interest. Thats how they 'bought' their property. They want property? Work for it in your desert, fucking kikes. Zero help from us. Build something for once in your life.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494424466 124924722,124963563,2017-05-10 13:56:05,">>124963358 >AhHHHHHHHHH my Jewish dentist is oppressing me by having more money than I do, help me government!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494424565 124924722,124963744,2017-05-10 13:57:36,">>124963563 lmao, do you even know about your fucking Federal Reserve? now i know what kind of tard im talking to.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494424656 124924722,124964017,2017-05-10 13:59:54,">>124963358 Nah fuck Jews too, these AnCaps just need to look at the facts of who it's stealing from them. They'll come around if they care to look for the root of the theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494424794 124924722,124964263,2017-05-10 14:02:15,">>124963744 central banking in general is shit,by concept it's just never-ending debt for bankers whether they are Jewish or not,even though Jews love this shit Even Menger analyzed and found that it was bullshit and he wasn't even against nationalized money",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494424935 124924722,124964286,2017-05-10 14:02:25,">>124962710 >""it's still not that definition because..."" you Hispanic nigger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494424945 124924722,124964368,2017-05-10 14:03:09,">>124964017 I said it in the beggining. They will be crushed in the coming NatSoc revolution if they choose to side with the kikes. No mercy. The smart ones will come around, true. The rest can perish along the marxist scum.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494424989 124924722,124964512,2017-05-10 14:04:24,">>124964286 lol, more chances of YOU being the nigger seeing as you are from the U.S.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494425064 124924722,124964542,2017-05-10 14:04:43,">>124964017 >just need to look at the facts of who it's stealing from them. Old people. The biggest chunks of entitlement funding in the federal government, by far, come from social security and medicare. Eliminate just those two things and we could dramatically lower taxes and still have a huge budget surplus.",,Anonymous,presidents-proposed-total-spending.png,xpST0Pnok6vvT9jrhu3TAw==,US,,1494425083 124924722,124964563,2017-05-10 14:04:58,">>124964286 You just decided that the definition of State is ""a gang of robbers and killers"" just cause you feel like. You are the definition of autism.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494425098 124924722,124964637,2017-05-10 14:05:36,">>124924722 Pinochet wasn't exactly libertarian given his police state. What kind of Lolbertarianism is this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494425136 124924722,124964725,2017-05-10 14:06:19,">>124964542 central banking is the ROOT of the problem. Everything else stems from this",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494425179 124924722,124964758,2017-05-10 14:06:39,">>124960428 USA is nowhere near as AUTH as a fascist state would be",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494425199 124924722,124965163,2017-05-10 14:10:07,">>124964263 Money creation is in private hands. It must be nationalized. Jews not only love that shit, they made usury the standard economic principle in most of the world.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494425407 124924722,124965236,2017-05-10 14:10:52,">>124964725 According to who? The biggest problem right now is old people. There are the group that gets the most government handouts BY FAR. Like I already said, if we eliminated these two programs, or even just cut them a bit, we could have a huge budget surplus AND dramatically reduce taxes at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494425452 124924722,124965307,2017-05-10 14:11:30,">>124962556 desu I am not well read in libertarian philosophy so I was just asking you guys what you thought since I know some people who like BHL",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494425490 124924722,124965653,2017-05-10 14:14:26,Would one of you fellas kindly explain to me how contracts and agreements would be enforced with no government to make sure it happens? A question for the Ancaps rather than the Minarchists.,,Anonymous,7346785465.jpg,ECJDEP0XuuGqWc5Ubj1KZA==,GB,,1494425666 124924722,124965791,2017-05-10 14:15:30,">>124959514 And democratic politicians aren't? Would you rather have a leader who cares about the long term health of a country? Or a revolving door of sleaze who stays in power by redistributing wealth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494425730 124924722,124965914,2017-05-10 14:16:32,">124965236 and what would you do with that huge budget surplus, invest it in more military toys?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494425792 124924722,124965967,2017-05-10 14:17:03,">>124960130 He actually undid several laws on the books during wiemar. Handguns were totally banned, he legalized them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494425823 124924722,124966431,2017-05-10 14:21:01,">>124965914 1. Lower taxes 2. Reduce federal debt Continue this process until the federal debt-to-GDP ratio is less than 50%. At that point, completely repeal the 16th Amendment, thus returning America to the free market utopia that it used to be.",,Anonymous,4e70b3b4e3c5b98135ceb237c4745115.jpg,/XSLuLza8JDkp1gTwgNVRQ==,US,,1494426061 124924722,124966466,2017-05-10 14:21:19,">>124965653 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o >>124965914 >invest it in more military toys >coming from a Hitler fanboy",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494426079 124924722,124966713,2017-05-10 14:23:13,">>124966431 why be in debt in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494426193 124924722,124966800,2017-05-10 14:23:55,">>124966466 they have more toys than they need already",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494426235 124924722,124966866,2017-05-10 14:24:28,">>124924722 how do you defend private property outside of the state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494426268 124924722,124967004,2017-05-10 14:25:41,">>124966431 >Lower taxes >Decrease federal debt Choose one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494426341 124924722,124967119,2017-05-10 14:26:39,">>124967004 yep, these tards dont even understand why they pay taxes",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494426399 124924722,124967131,2017-05-10 14:26:49,">>124967004 >Completely ignoring the part about cutting spending",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494426409 124924722,124967185,2017-05-10 14:27:18,">>124966466 Hitler did it to fight zog, USA does it because they are zog",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494426438 124924722,124967280,2017-05-10 14:28:02,">>124965653 TOW missiles",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494426482 124924722,124967331,2017-05-10 14:28:28,>>124944139,,Anonymous,mises_fascism.jpg,9QvQLBMFSKthD8aRYgjvvw==,US,,1494426508 124924722,124967417,2017-05-10 14:29:16,">>124966431 you know what happened in 1913? the Federal Reserve Act was passed",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494426556 124924722,124967706,2017-05-10 14:31:46,">>124965163 >Money creation is in private hands. It must be nationalized currency is nationalized dude,except for bitcoin for sure,it doesn't mean that the private banks create the currency that it is private by nature,it's still the central bank who control the flow of money liquidity,which causes inflation because if the banks fucks up,the fed give all the cash back,because the value of the currency is the piece of paper itself,that's why fiat is shit because the value of money is the paper itself and not a scarce material,and if you nationalize banks you will just go Venezuela 2:electric bangaloo end the central banks and it will be better for everyone",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494426706 124924722,124967759,2017-05-10 14:32:17,">>124966713 How do you think debt is incurred? And why do you think a centrally planned government with access to the money supply would be immune to runaway spending and eventually turning into Venezuela? >>124967185 Ah I see. DA JOOSS. Glad the German people benefited tremendously.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494426737 124924722,124968313,2017-05-10 14:37:05,">>124967417 You know what else happened in 1913? The 16th Amendment, which enabled the federal government to collect income taxes. And you know what else happened in 1913? The 17th Amendment, which neutered state governments, thus opening the door for federal overreach. Before those two amendments, the US government was very decentralized. >>124967185 Hitler declared war on the entire world and lost. Get over it. Had Hitler gone down the libertarian path, he could have turned Germany into an economic powerhouse while at the same time uniting all of Europe against Soviet Bolshevism. He fucked it up.",,Anonymous,calvin coolidge quote.jpg,9Sy9sEuelvhRZHAo4+oxIQ==,US,,1494427025 124924722,124968378,2017-05-10 14:37:34,">>124967706 > currency is nationalized No, it isn't. Only reason there is inflation is because there is an interest applied to the money being printed. In NatSoc, the fiat is printed in proportion to true wealth being created, ie the sum of all goods, products and services in the Nation. With no interest attached. Thats why it wouldnt end like Venezuela.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494427054 124924722,124968497,2017-05-10 14:38:34,">>124967331 >But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift. To view it as something more would be a fatal error. Fucking natsoc are more shady than Jews at propaganda.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494427114 124924722,124968525,2017-05-10 14:38:44,">>124968313 And didnt it occur to you that the income tax was enabled to pay the interest on the new centralized, private money creation machine?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494427124 124924722,124968699,2017-05-10 14:40:14,">>124968497 Desperate times call for desperate measures. Also one must be careful when fighting monsters, of not becoming a monster oneself. All this has been talked about already, zzz...",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494427214 124924722,124968821,2017-05-10 14:41:23,">>124968313 had he gone the liberarian path he wouldnt have lasted 2 years and Europe would be the USSR today",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494427283 124924722,124968940,2017-05-10 14:42:19,">>124968313 >Hitler declared war on the entire world and lost. Get over it. Had Hitler gone down the libertarian path, he could have turned Germany into an economic powerhouse while at the same time uniting all of Europe against Soviet Bolshevism. He fucked it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6StVNfcttc WW2 was bound to happen, he just made the first move which was smarter than waiting for zog to do it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494427339 124924722,124968952,2017-05-10 14:42:24,">>124968525 >pay the interest on the new centralized, private money creation machine Ah there we go. You have no idea what you're talking about. You think the government pays interest on money lent by the Fed, do you? I swear if I see one more idiot that thinks they know shit about the economy because they watched a fucking cartoon. >>124968699 >Desperate times And that's the only way these shitty ideologies can ever come about. Like commies and nazis after the great depression.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494427344 124924722,124969337,2017-05-10 14:45:45,">>124968952 you think the fed lends money without interest? lol every single dollar in existence comes from the fed, tard. >and thats the only way.. Desperate times radicalize people fool. We are seeing in it with our own eyes today, cause we live in desperate times too",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494427545 124924722,124969441,2017-05-10 14:46:41,">>124968378 >the fiat is printed in proportion to true wealth being created and that's why the third Reich economic miracle was based on building highways and guns Even a Keynesian won't say shit like this,and they are for public works",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494427601 124924722,124969718,2017-05-10 14:48:55,">>124968525 No, because that's stupid. The Federal Reserve isn't privately owned, despite what you might have heard from YouTube conspiracy videos. The Chairman of the federal reserve is chosen by the President, and approved by the Senate. And the ""profits"" are dumped directly into the US treasury. >>124968940 >WW2 was bound to happen It could have been easily avoided, actually. Nobody forced Hitler to invade Poland. Britain and France were practically begging him not to. But the most unforgivable thing, in my opinion is the accursed Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. He opened the door for the Soviets to absorb eastern Europe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494427735 124924722,124969726,2017-05-10 14:49:01,"BASED LIBERTARIAN JEW RUNNING FOR ISRAELI PRIME-MINISTER >>124966988 >>124966988 >>124966988 A JEWISH PINOCHET? >>124966988 >>124966988 >>124966988 >>124966988 PHYSICAL REMOVAL",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494427741 124924722,124969937,2017-05-10 14:51:02,">>124969337 Debt comes from the government issuing bonds you retard. The private banks that the Fed loans money too have to pay the interest. >natsoc talking about economy Every fucking time.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494427862 124924722,124970213,2017-05-10 14:53:14,">>124969726 oh god natsoc will call us jews lovers agai- >>No more foreign aid by the USA to Israel shit,I just ripped my pants",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494427994 124924722,124970682,2017-05-10 14:57:00,">>124969937 There is no hope for you, liebertarians. You think the economy is the be end all purpose of existance. You are materialist like the Marxist. You will die with your jewish overlords.",,Anonymous,s.jpg,uCJXBLXxUq9g2SKwrPjFxg==,AR,,1494428220 124924722,124970939,2017-05-10 14:59:04,">>124969441 it works building whatever needs to be built. At the time thats what was required, then we built that. Tomorrow its rockets to colonize other planets, so be it.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494428344 124924722,124970996,2017-05-10 14:59:35,">>124970682 >Hitler sending German kids to freeze to death in Stalingrad is okay though Do NatSoc have genuinely zero self-awareness?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494428375 124924722,124971064,2017-05-10 15:00:13,">>124970682 >wanting a more rational economy >blablabla you are materialists blabla",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494428413 124924722,124971096,2017-05-10 15:00:29,">>124970682 >pretend you know shit all about the economy >get told >m-muh materialism Gtfo brainlet.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494428429 124924722,124971110,2017-05-10 15:00:33,">>124970996 better die fighting commie scum than surrender and be conquered by commie scum",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494428433 124924722,124971119,2017-05-10 15:00:37,">>124969718 Very complicated issue that I am not comfortable debating. But I definitely don't believe it was as black and white as you see it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494428437 124924722,124971147,2017-05-10 15:00:51,">>124969937 >>124970682 >be refuted >go ad hominem and dodge the point the saviors of the white race... >>124970939 yeah I know that,it's called a government budget",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494428451 124924722,124971269,2017-05-10 15:02:01,">>124971064 you can be non materialist and care about a function economy without it being the most important aspect of human life, unlike you autist retards who worship money, wonder where that comes from..",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494428521 124924722,124971573,2017-05-10 15:04:37,">>124970213 he also criticized westen zionism as islam-enabling cuckoldry pol is 404ing",,Anonymous,kNJ6iK[1].png,rhB3prNwqYOJdXfiVEi2xQ==,BR,,1494428677 124924722,124971575,2017-05-10 15:04:38,">>124971096 i wonder where your knowledge of the (((economy))) comes from...",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494428678 124924722,124971582,2017-05-10 15:04:42,">>124971110 That's nice except for the part where the Soviets never would have been able to invade Eastern Europe in the first place if not for the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494428682 124924722,124971700,2017-05-10 15:05:38,">>124971269 Sorry mate, I know it may shock you because we care deeply about the moral implications of economics but most of us understand that money and pure material wealth is a false god.",,Anonymous,de59a22584a9aae34595f41d9d48bdb67fed5a926715eb3ec96d1f9b685ff8a5.png,56+k1GqJXoRky0or/OESKQ==,US,,1494428738 124924722,124971707,2017-05-10 15:05:40,">>124971269 >you can be non materialist and care about a function economy without it being the most important aspect of human life then why are you accusing of materialism and warn us about our death instead of proving your point ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494428740 124924722,124971807,2017-05-10 15:06:37,">>124971575 Lol, I'm with you on the JQ but the ""economy"" is not Jewish.",,Anonymous,smh_nigga.jpg,PKqLYdq+1vi2kltNHfuwJw==,US,,1494428797 124924722,124971944,2017-05-10 15:07:44,">>124971582 they wouldn't even need to invade if it wasn't for Nazis. Commie revolutions were popping all over Europe and were crushed by true patriots, yep nazis and the like much like today its fascist minded people who are confronting inmigrants, while you libertards argue about your 'true free market and economy'",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494428864 124924722,124972071,2017-05-10 15:08:45,">>124971807 the modern concept of it is. Ofc trying to understand NS economic from this point of view makes no sense to most.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494428925 124924722,124972300,2017-05-10 15:10:45,">>124972071 We don't care about the modem concept of economics, austrians aren't exactly accepted in the mainstream economics debate because we're ""proto-fascists""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494429045 124924722,124972373,2017-05-10 15:11:27,">>124971269 we don't worship money, we just want economic freedom since its the best way the society can produce wealth so we can care more about other things instead of just work and money",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494429087 124924722,124972568,2017-05-10 15:13:13,">>124971582 The Soviet war machine was already massive and was a huge threat with or without the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Here's a good video of Hitlers views on it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClR9tcpKZec >Hitler talking in his everyday voice to Finnish military commander Mannerheim in 1942. The only existing recording of Hitlers normal voice.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494429193 124924722,124972609,2017-05-10 15:13:36,">>124972373 economic freedom eh.. hey those chinese there are literally billion and they work for pennies. Look how cheap they make these TV, clothes, washing machines etc. Lets buy it from them! Fuckk we got no job now! Help us government!",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494429216 124924722,124972904,2017-05-10 15:16:08,">>124972609 >China is libertarian No just fucking no.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494429368 124924722,124972968,2017-05-10 15:16:37,">>124971944 I would argue that the only reason that immigrants are even an issue is because of the welfare state. The immigrants come to Europe for gibs. Turn off the gibs and they will leave, except for those few immigrants who are genuinely valuable and willing to work. And remove all the multicultural programs, all the government-enforced quotas. Do this and the immigration problem ceases to be a problem.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494429397 124924722,124973017,2017-05-10 15:16:59,">>124972904 lol, the point went past through your head",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494429419 124924722,124973307,2017-05-10 15:19:27,">>124972968 its welfare state plus massive brainwashed of whites into accepting other cultures and races in their lands. get rid of welfare and you're still stuck with millions of them who will riot, rob and kill. End welfare AND deport is the solution",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494429567 124924722,124973501,2017-05-10 15:21:06,">>124972904 the point was.. economic 'freedom' means the freedom to buy such cheap stuff from the chinese, leading to your country having no industry. Try to stop that freedom and all these libertards will cry oppresion.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494429666 124924722,124973734,2017-05-10 15:22:59,">>124973307 The welfare state is also a huge factor in why Europeans stopped producing enough children. In the past, children were seen as a blessing. You needed children because you needed somebody to take care of you in old-age. Now? The government will take care of you so no need for children. Also, I'm not opposed to deportations at all, but they are just a way to slow down the problem. How do you stop the problem? You stop the problem by eliminating the gibs. Do that and they stop coming.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494429779 124924722,124973806,2017-05-10 15:23:36,">>124973501 No China and the states have been in a trade war for years now. There's no free trade between myself and those skinny chink children.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494429816 124924722,124973847,2017-05-10 15:23:55,">>124973734 thats why I said end welfare AND deport, duh..",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494429835 124924722,124973931,2017-05-10 15:24:35,">>124973806 half your shit is made by China. Check your stuff",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494429875 124924722,124973967,2017-05-10 15:24:54,">>124972609 >being as retarded as China would solve the problem they are almost imploding due to statism, really just another example of how big state is a shit",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494429894 124924722,124974054,2017-05-10 15:25:33,">>124973806 also how do you stop people from buying cheap from other countries in your libertarian utopia? There are literally billions of shitskins willing to work for pennies",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494429933 124924722,124974349,2017-05-10 15:27:53,">>124973967 who said anything of being like China? I'll repeat the comment in a way you undertand it: economic freedom eh.. Libertards in their country: ""hey those chinese there are literally billion and they work for pennies. Look how cheap they make these TV, clothes, washing machines etc. Lets buy it from them!"" Libertards realising they now have no industry or job (kinda like what made Trump win? i bet most liebertards voted for him, even though his economic intervention promises go totally against their principles): ""Fuckk we got no job now! Help us government!""",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1494430073 124924722,124974393,2017-05-10 15:28:15,">>124973501 >buy such cheap stuff from the chinese, leading to your country having no industry Wages in China have doubled in less than a decade. The imports will continue until equilibrium is reached. This situation only exists because the Chinese government had too much power in the first place. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/wages",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494430095 124994532,124994532,2017-05-10 18:14:44,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,^~,lrg-op.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,PT,,1494440084 124994532,124994634,2017-05-10 18:15:40,">>124994532 First for commies get the ride",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494440140 124994532,124994652,2017-05-10 18:15:46,,,^~,hoppe-feelgood.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,PT,,1494440146 124994532,124994691,2017-05-10 18:16:06,">>124994532 Hey! I will have you know that we libertarians care about equality, diversity, and democracy, you right-winger! Just kidding! Bring on the liberty!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494440166 124994532,124995437,2017-05-10 18:22:03,Bumpity,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494440523 124994532,124995487,2017-05-10 18:22:27,,,^~,commies-out.png,644Q+hvh5gMkyU7l0GHYOg==,PT,,1494440547 124994532,124996680,2017-05-10 18:32:58,Bump again. No liberty minded anons tonight?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494441178 124994532,124996689,2017-05-10 18:33:01,">>124994691 I was triggered before I finished reading and now im pissed with no one to shit on.",,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,US,,1494441181 124994532,124997084,2017-05-10 18:36:25,>>124994532,,Anonymous,48f9f166c53043893ec7b82ea1b24526.jpg,Az2BX1KGQwDo/1r9szTxMQ==,US,,1494441385 124994532,124997187,2017-05-10 18:37:11,>>124997084,,Anonymous,quote-forced-integration-is-just-as-wrong-as-forced-segregation-barry-goldwater-141-5-0592.jpg,29nfLw/nCpKedXLlUh5/VA==,US,,1494441431 124994532,124997290,2017-05-10 18:38:01,>>124997187,,Anonymous,GtAaP6l.jpg,XfXntwfBkqYZWVwSjerKMw==,US,,1494441481 124994532,124997319,2017-05-10 18:38:16,,,Anonymous,1491617931417.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,GB,,1494441496 124994532,124997323,2017-05-10 18:38:20,>>124997290,,Anonymous,quote-if-socialists-understood-economics-they-wouldn-t-be-socialist-friedrich-august-von-hayek-93-90-98.jpg,BBxJQhD+Amlytn2qLgpYcg==,US,,1494441500 124994532,124997367,2017-05-10 18:38:50,>>124997323,,Anonymous,1302ab71a0957977697d0447d3da083b.jpg,ZVSyl90xvkYUsvFKzuzU2g==,US,,1494441530 124994532,124997412,2017-05-10 18:39:08,>>124997367,,Anonymous,janice-rogers-brown-642797.jpg,AnHZDX5qSy9j/vn9Sf5tkA==,US,,1494441548 124994532,124997525,2017-05-10 18:40:06,Hoppean Snake Memes! I'm calling you out you bitch! I know you're a /pol/ack. Show yourself!,,Anonymous,snek (17).png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,US,,1494441606 124994532,124997560,2017-05-10 18:40:23,,,Anonymous,1487112015571.jpg,wAN/SS/0WQCGLyjV2gh4CQ==,US,,1494441623 124994532,124997588,2017-05-10 18:40:39,,,Anonymous,snek (13).jpg,WeiEDcQayx0q3aRb3nKD+g==,US,,1494441639 124994532,124997624,2017-05-10 18:40:53,>>124997525,,Anonymous,quote-the-difference-between-libertarianism-and-socialism-is-that-libertarians-will-tolerate-david-boaz-103-44-99.jpg,l+2KbqdGg7FlcxBSlGs+Yg==,US,,1494441653 124994532,124997687,2017-05-10 18:41:24,>>124997624,,Anonymous,hayek1.jpg,L3VW1daxm2Jee2AYn42WRw==,US,,1494441684 124994532,124997719,2017-05-10 18:41:46,>>124997687,,Anonymous,556975_515739291787140_1004695898_n.jpg,nid38Tat3TmtYfGMEHH3qQ==,US,,1494441706 124994532,124997751,2017-05-10 18:42:03,>>124997719,,Anonymous,quote-the-chief-evil-is-unlimited-government-and-nobody-is-qualified-to-wield-unlimited-power-friedrich-august-von-hayek-65-6-0640.jpg,jQnsu6AbAE/yfWf37kXYXA==,US,,1494441723 124994532,124997794,2017-05-10 18:42:31,,,Anonymous,1493762519867.png,B/dFT8TacZAqU27PSbBUtQ==,US,,1494441751 124994532,124997808,2017-05-10 18:42:35,>>124997751,,Anonymous,quote-i-hope-we-once-again-have-reminded-people-that-man-is-not-free-unless-government-is-ronald-reagan-36-58-86.jpg,Pz8AXydxtkoQ2QdwAZcCyg==,US,,1494441755 124994532,124997873,2017-05-10 18:43:04,,,Anonymous,quote-rightful-liberty-is-unobstructed-action-according-to-our-will-within-limits-drawn-around-us-by-the-thomas-jefferson-94097 (1).jpg,rK40CqeAMpRa5g2p/AJWnA==,GB,,1494441784 124994532,124997877,2017-05-10 18:43:05,>>124997808,,Anonymous,Barry-Goldwater-quote.jpg,oWCXtt45kQAaODhbsF9vfw==,US,,1494441785 124994532,124997936,2017-05-10 18:43:33,>>124997877,,Anonymous,2e3735c610a2bb3bedd493f825f874af.jpg,baXG3zI4SUO3kHqut0MJrQ==,US,,1494441813 124994532,124997942,2017-05-10 18:43:35,"Daily reminder ancap is degenerate, retarded trash for mental gymnastic performing teenagers, and ""hoppean"" fags are liars.",,Anonymous,Hoppe fags aren't serious.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,US,,1494441815 124994532,124997951,2017-05-10 18:43:40,">>124994532 Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494441820 124994532,124998177,2017-05-10 18:45:49,>>124997936,,Anonymous,70af0ed66885c58512a22411bef1a19d.jpg,0+/qp4uTJ9CcHn0VcVeeQA==,US,,1494441949 124994532,124998208,2017-05-10 18:46:03,Nothing like the sound of commie bodies hitting the water,,Anonymous,pinochetmaymay.jpg,I8ZYcUi8MxcqnaggXwsH/A==,FR,,1494441963 124994532,124998215,2017-05-10 18:46:08,">>124997942 Also.",,Anonymous,lolberdarians btfo.png,G+uS9LdaAk6WMqOVhyoPyA==,US,,1494441968 124994532,124998235,2017-05-10 18:46:18,>>124998177,,Anonymous,betterstuff1344452041.jpg,SXhGBYejOC2IRi9yyG2gOQ==,US,,1494441978 124994532,124998245,2017-05-10 18:46:23,">>124997942 >Liars How so?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494441983 124994532,124998329,2017-05-10 18:47:02,>>124998235,,Anonymous,6384ba524d4eed1fc2ad92ba69de4dea.jpg,sWKB7QE7DwCDMh442rpGmw==,US,,1494442022 124994532,124998397,2017-05-10 18:47:35,">>124998215 ok",,Anonymous,IMG_0012.jpg,8d30VFFNZRNkZ3VVfLr3+w==,GB,,1494442055 124994532,124998415,2017-05-10 18:47:45,>>124998329,,Anonymous,Barry-Goldwater.jpg,KtXsJS7VJuMk1USRgsrQ/w==,US,,1494442065 124994532,124998494,2017-05-10 18:48:16,>>124998415,,Anonymous,cba4cc1bdb11e4343052f8a16f301b3d.jpg,aFGDPSaTA2lgbis3hel6Bw==,US,,1494442096 124994532,124998598,2017-05-10 18:49:14,">>124997942 Just to be clear here, even if my pals here don't agree; We should throw marxists from helicopters. This isn't any kind of larping. This is my genuine opinion on helicopter removal",,Anonymous,augusto-pinochet-3.jpg,xpa9fY2csFPv4uIXQ2k+xQ==,US,,1494442154 124994532,124998618,2017-05-10 18:49:25,">>124994532 Roads and schools xD",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494442165 124994532,124998829,2017-05-10 18:51:06,">>124998245 You steal Pinochet's image (helicopter rides/physical removal) when he has nothing to do with ""ancap"" retardation and you don't actually want to give commies said helicopter rides. You deceive people by appealing to something everyone (here) can agree on so you seem more approachable. Your ideology is as delusional and stupid as the ""utopian"" marxists. In the end you don't care about anyone but yourself. And you want to eliminate any societal order or government so you can live an immoral hedonistic degenerate life without consequence. Literally every single ""ancap"" I've spoken with on here has been among the most dishonest pieces of shit I've ever seen. Literally Alinsky tactics tier. >>124998598 Nope.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494442266 124994532,124998833,2017-05-10 18:51:10,,,Anonymous,5ca3e50f85a0963b8303fb47d37c4581.jpg,oY9qYOzwQrZnPEZWVwOtyA==,GB,,1494442270 124994532,124998927,2017-05-10 18:51:56,">>124994532 Fascism to clean up the mess, Libertarianism can follow afterwards.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494442316 124994532,124999201,2017-05-10 18:54:11,">>124998829 >Nope. nope what? you don't like my opinion, or do you think I'm lying? if you think im lying think about it yourself. Is it a good idea to kill marxists? the answer is yes.",,Anonymous,1466123161016.jpg,XT6UhC2aQF9tKKqx+NFVOw==,US,,1494442451 124994532,124999327,2017-05-10 18:55:12,">>124998829 Oh trust me commies get rides. But hoppes idea of 'physical removal' is more nuanced than the memes around private death squads. It can start with discrimination, to expulsion from society (hoppe likened this to excommunication), all the way up to 'fire up the chopper lads'",,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1494442512 124994532,124999389,2017-05-10 18:55:41,">>124998927 Last time fascists tried to ""clean up"" a mess it ended with communists conquering half of Europe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494442541 124994532,124999421,2017-05-10 18:55:59,">>124998927 It doesn't work. Look at Chile after Pinochet, its state has grown more and more with ""moderate"" leftists on power. You need an authoritarian leader to keep the order.",,Anonymous,needmorehelicopters.jpg,AW9iaflxDY5roh0tcnjCAg==,FR,,1494442559 124994532,124999497,2017-05-10 18:56:39,,,Anonymous,adams_51.jpg,6P2Vl2+thlg4w2WP4VvH9Q==,GB,,1494442599 124994532,124999547,2017-05-10 18:56:57,">>124998618 >muh roads You mean forced integration >muh schools You mean public brainwash facilities",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494442617 124994532,124999610,2017-05-10 18:57:29,">>124998927 Libertarianism will just lead to the same ""mess"" (degeneracy). >>124999201 I don't care if you're serious or not because your ideology is on par with the marxists who dream of a ""utopia"". But most of you don't have the balls to give ""heli rides"" so you just meme and then backpedal. You're trash. >>124999327 >But hoppes idea of 'physical removal' is more nuanced That means you're a cowardly liar who has to use deception and thievery for your advertisements.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494442649 124994532,124999642,2017-05-10 18:57:48,">>124999421 THIS.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494442668 124994532,124999687,2017-05-10 18:58:12,>>124999421,,Anonymous,O'Sullivan's Law.png,HV3pRQuvilN9jefFcC6RQA==,US,,1494442692 124994532,124999907,2017-05-10 19:00:09,">>124999421 to be fair, they transerfered to a democracy after pinochet's rule. The real problem is that nigga died.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494442809 124994532,125000550,2017-05-10 19:04:50,>not posting Ancap Andy,,Anonymous,ancap-andy.png,xORZqJpsafjbHT4rgruKbg==,US,,1494443090 124994532,125000577,2017-05-10 19:05:04,">>124999610 Don't you get memes and humour? Was pic related false advertising because we didn't actually try to kill hilldog?",,Anonymous,1473982955572.png,XpVWM5Cx6RcDa1LOrXx30A==,GB,,1494443104 124994532,125000790,2017-05-10 19:06:46,">>124994532 Do you have any book recommendations on the subject of roads under libertarianism?",,Anonymous,ancap-frog.png,X8CwhVHwIR8DyXMmrA95PA==,IL,,1494443206 124994532,125000944,2017-05-10 19:08:10,">>125000790 >Implying you need roads when you have helicopters",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494443290 124994532,125001222,2017-05-10 19:10:37,">>125000577 Except I don't actually need to deceive and steal someone's imagery and persona to fool people into thinking my ideology is something it's not.",,Anonymous,1485811489110.gif,JKWpsOgP1oxFaNEIj38Jcw==,US,,1494443437 124994532,125001223,2017-05-10 19:10:38,">>124999610 >But most of you don't have the balls to give ""heli rides"" so you just meme and then backpedal. Correction: most of us don't have the knowledge nor means nor resources to give them. Why would I not throw Marxists off helicopters if I could without legal consequences? Stop making the mistake of thinking everyone would be as big a pussy as you are when it comes to defending their convictions and ideals.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494443438 124994532,125001275,2017-05-10 19:11:11,">>125000790 >Jews trying to build roads in my libertarian social order. Not falling for your gulag this time. I'll be watching you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494443471 124994532,125001290,2017-05-10 19:11:16,">>125000790 My family owns property, we have no issues maintaining our private roads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494443476 124994532,125001442,2017-05-10 19:12:43,">>125000790 Before 1913, America had no federal income tax at all. Despite this, the country still managed to have roads, hospitals, colleges, schools, police, marines, and a navy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494443563 124994532,125001462,2017-05-10 19:12:51,">>125000944 >air traffic with decentralized air traffic control",,Anonymous,wtf-am-i-reading.png,9kTpOC1pshOJuq4pPkpHWw==,IL,,1494443571 124994532,125001588,2017-05-10 19:13:58,">>124994691 But that's unironically true. Libertarian ((right)) is a fucking oxymoron.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494443638 124994532,125001656,2017-05-10 19:14:24,">>125001223 >Why would I not throw Marxists off helicopters if I could without legal consequences? Because your ""kind"" has admitted as much. As that would be fascist. Which is why you have to steal the image of a great man like Pinochet for your subhuman gutter trash ideology. >Stop making the mistake of thinking everyone would be as big a pussy as you are when it comes to defending their convictions and ideals. Projection. By the way. I find it very hilariously ironic how anti statists use Pinochet, who had people killed for being out late after a state imposed curfew. Again, you're just degenerate liars. Or as Jackson would say, a den of vipers and thieves",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494443664 124994532,125001681,2017-05-10 19:14:38,">>125000790 Don't need roads where we're going son",,Anonymous,1.jpg,yVQxa1JZjUVZdbTR84pcbA==,GB,,1494443678 124994532,125001685,2017-05-10 19:14:39,">>125001290 >>125001442 >we can totally have roads in ancapistan >i can't explain how that would work >but it's possible, honest",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494443679 124994532,125001698,2017-05-10 19:14:46,">>124998177 Wow!! Osama bin laden is an libertarian. I did not know that.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494443686 124994532,125001845,2017-05-10 19:16:03,">>124999610 You're a faggot, Where am I backpedaling?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494443763 124994532,125001961,2017-05-10 19:17:03,">>125001845 You're degenerate gutter trash fit for a gas chamber.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494443823 124994532,125001976,2017-05-10 19:17:08,"The Libertarian resurgence is just people who want to be edgy (but not a nazi, that would be too edgy) and mudpeople who have no place in the ethnostate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494443828 124994532,125002209,2017-05-10 19:19:04,">>125001588 >Eliminate all racial quotas and multicultural programs >Eliminate all ""anti-discrimination"" laws >Eliminate all ""hate speech"" laws. Allow people to freely associate and dissociate voluntarily without coercion. >Dramatically reduce federal spending on entitlement programs >Lower taxes across the board These are not ""left-wing"" positions.",,Anonymous,b1c64cf9a4736b8b76f71f12a46e0cb7.gif,scZM+aRza4t29x8SpG4Mtw==,US,,1494443944 124994532,125002277,2017-05-10 19:19:48,">>125001656 >Because your ""kind"" has admitted as much. Don't care/I'll speak for myself. Address all arguments to me. >As that would be fascist. I'm not trying to punish for thought crimes. If someone actually tried to enforce a Marxist based measure whereby they'd violate an individual's right to property, selling his labour, etc. then the punishment for it would be being thrown off a helicopter. I wouldn't throw someone off for thinking the enforcement would be just. While it wouldn't be punishment for a thought crime, it'd be Draconian punishment for theft or whatever else. >Projection. Pseudo-soccer-mom psychology. Once again, tell me why I wouldn't throw someone off a helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494443988 124994532,125002319,2017-05-10 19:20:08,">>125001961 Nice larping faggot, build the gas chambers and then we'll talk. Oh wait the holohoax never happened. Guess gas chambers have literally nothing to do with National Socialism. Now you're backpedaling too, cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494444008 124994532,125002407,2017-05-10 19:20:52,">>124994532 Im not sure if the elites will be shot or fascists are useful idiots to them.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1494444052 124994532,125002455,2017-05-10 19:21:17,">>125001685 >worthless Israeli faggot >hates the idea of AnCapistan why am I not surprised?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494444077 124994532,125002543,2017-05-10 19:22:02,">>125001222 The connection is because of the 'Chicago boys' a group who studied under freidman, and who were pinochets economic advisors, they advocated for deregulation, privatisation, and total free markets. Libertarian economics. Pinochet came to rely on them and several ended up in high govt positions",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494444122 124994532,125002888,2017-05-10 19:25:01,">>125002455 >butthurt anti-roader >gets mad because he can't explain roads >blames israel >t. Stefan",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494444301 124994532,125002999,2017-05-10 19:25:55,">>125001961 Do I have to remind you the holes is the ceiling where the ""gas"" was pourd into were made after the fact, and that the ""death camps"" were boarding schools. You're a fake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494444355 124994532,125003004,2017-05-10 19:25:58,">>125001976 Or people who want a lot of the same things natsocs want, without having to bend over and take it up the arse from some tinpot dictator. I love nazis: >don't trust the state >we can fix it with more state",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494444358 124994532,125003123,2017-05-10 19:26:57,">>125002888 roads = communism, don't be a fuckin' moron on purpose.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494444417 124994532,125003384,2017-05-10 19:29:12,">>125001685 I literally explained to you how we do it. My family personally, we own equipment and my brother and I operate it. Most private land owners do the same or pay to have it done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494444552 124994532,125003613,2017-05-10 19:31:03,I've never felt so at home when i recently decided I was Libertarian. god damn its the perfect idealogy,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494444663 124994532,125003714,2017-05-10 19:31:49,">>125003384 >i literally explained to you how we do it >we have equipment and we operate it Nice explanation... You people are seriously autistic.",,Anonymous,1476540933228.jpg,4BXzQ8zVzMatMyRK5KmeUg==,IL,,1494444709 124994532,125003907,2017-05-10 19:33:26,">>125003714 Don't ignore the truth kike, we here at /lrg/ are staunchly anti-road. these people trying to convince you otherwise are clearly marxist spies trying to subvert us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494444806 124994532,125003930,2017-05-10 19:33:36,">>124995487 thats my oc, cool to see it around!",,Anonymous,Sketch (5).png,FFcJB+zOrT3hkXsCIUs+sQ==,CA,,1494444816 124994532,125004096,2017-05-10 19:35:10,">>125003714 All roads lead to socialism. The taxman can't reach you if you don't have roads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494444910 124994532,125004128,2017-05-10 19:35:23,,,Anonymous,Race.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,US,,1494444923 124994532,125004302,2017-05-10 19:36:51,">>124994532 i think ethnonationalist paleo-conservatism should be memed, a lot of nazi kids could be converted im not good with photoshop though so i'm trying to convince you to voluntarily do it, for the sake of liberty and retaking the culture",,Anonymous,1494300130080.png,vnbtex56Pc3vAX3+RnDyWA==,SE,,1494445011 124994532,125004568,2017-05-10 19:39:06,">>125003384 You know what? I'll bite... If a private company builds the shortest possible road from point A to point B, then it has a monopoly on the shortest possible path from point A to point B. What's stopping it from charging unfair prices? Or are you going to have 10 parallel roads built and maintained by different companies to get from every point to every other point?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494445146 124994532,125004674,2017-05-10 19:39:57,">>125004302 but Libertarian Fascism is already well meme'd already. plus ethnonationalist paleo-conservatism doesn't exactly roll off the tounge.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1494445197 124994532,125004764,2017-05-10 19:40:44,>>124994532,,Anonymous,legalize recreational nukes.jpg,/d2N3tRJBg6TYQo7T20aXA==,US,,1494445244 124994532,125004985,2017-05-10 19:42:35,">>125004302 Paleo-conservativism is the ideology that I most closely identify with. But nobody knows what you're talking about when you say that, so I just call myself libertarian instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494445355 124994532,125005008,2017-05-10 19:42:46,">>125004568 >If I charge high prices other people will build roads and then I wont get paid at all. Thats fucking great, are you retarded? Thats a direct incentive to keep your prices affordable. fucking idiot just think you debunked capitalism or somthing?",,Anonymous,Tucker.png,G3ntbYA6wn77pdLZEi56hw==,US,,1494445366 124994532,125005145,2017-05-10 19:43:53,>>124998208,,Anonymous,1494196060446.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,SE,,1494445433 124994532,125005492,2017-05-10 19:46:45,">>125004985 >But nobody knows what you're talking about thats exactly why it needs to be memed >>125004674 bue its too unclearly defined, every ancap seems to have differing beliefs. in every ancap thread there are people talking about buying kids, mass immigration, global free trade etc.",,Anonymous,1494297146050.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,SE,,1494445605 124994532,125005894,2017-05-10 19:50:10,">>125005008 >If I charge high prices other people will build roads and then I wont get paid at all >and then I wont get paid at all No, you fucking mongoloid. You'll be making big profits until someone else finally comes along and builds a new road, at which point you lower your price to be competitive or collude with the other company to keep prices high. You stand nothing to lose from this as compared to charging a low price from the start. Then someone else has to come along and build a third road and so on and so forth. The only way your retarded fucking idea will work is if there's dozens of roads so it's hard for all the companies involved to collude. I'm sorry, but you're genuinely handicapped.",,Anonymous,ancap0.png,8KV49uXt2HytKOJov6sFyw==,IL,,1494445810 124994532,125006577,2017-05-10 19:55:42,">>124994532 >ancap Meme ideology. Read this and educate yourselves. https://libcom.org/files/Sheppard-Inefficiancy-read.pdf",,Anonymous,1492462766.jpg,rT/FCRvOCFguQnfCssiGMg==,US,,1494446142 124994532,125006597,2017-05-10 19:55:52,,,Anonymous,dd3e212bad740acbfed8616c415daaf1.jpg,hfd8FSP1TXOV9S5ukIAT0g==,AU,,1494446152 124994532,125006781,2017-05-10 19:57:31,">>125006577 >literal gommunist scum accusing other meme ideologies of being meme-tier",,Anonymous,commieball-food.jpg,sQ71ZQU1qJEdyQ+ggXbmNw==,IL,,1494446251 124994532,125006855,2017-05-10 19:58:08,">>125005894 or I can keep my prices low enough that its cheaper to use my road instead of buying resources and paying laborers to make your own road and I can keep a hold on the market. again the fact that needed to write that paragraph to try and debunk the very clear cut sentece shows you're either retarded or trolling.",,Anonymous,DontBait.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1494446288 124994532,125007012,2017-05-10 19:59:31,"what happened to Stefan Molyneux? he went from a very intelectual anarcho capitalist to a Le Pen supporter",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494446371 124994532,125007165,2017-05-10 20:01:01,">>125007012 When morality is out of the consideration of direct action, realpolitik is the logical first step.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494446461 124994532,125007189,2017-05-10 20:01:16,">>125007012 Right-wing libertarians master race libertarians, thats what happened.",,Anonymous,1488910637310.jpg,j8LR12YdKTWMEnBNchIDYw==,US,,1494446476 124994532,125007251,2017-05-10 20:01:43,">>125006855 >or I can keep my prices low enough that its cheaper to use my road Or you can literally just keep your prices high and make more profit until it becomes necessary to lower them and make more money, assuming you don't just collude with the ""competition"" to keep prices high. I'm sorry, but it's clear to me that you can't comprehend the argument, let alone address it. I don't consider you human. Go waste someone else's time, you literal mongoloid piece of trash.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494446503 124994532,125007501,2017-05-10 20:04:06,">>125007251 >I don't consider you human of course you don't, kike. We're all just goy to you. Can't remove government because then you'd have no way to control us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494446646 124994532,125007564,2017-05-10 20:04:44,">>125007251 >well if you make the prices high, ill just make muh own road. that's you, you nut gobbler. you're wasting your own time. you came here afterall.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494446684 124994532,125007609,2017-05-10 20:04:58,,,zehndelta⭐,dtom.png,52CxPl87/7OEY9ES9pFoJw==,US,,1494446698 124994532,125007727,2017-05-10 20:06:00,">>125007609 Yeah brother! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB88-IQDKZE",,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1494446760 124994532,125008093,2017-05-10 20:08:53,">>125007012 >>125007012 Because survival obviously takes precedence over ideological purity. Very rarely will you have a candidate who perfectly matches all of your opinions. Do I agree with Trump on every issue? No. But I'm still happy as fuck that he won. Why? Because him winning means that Republicans get to keep the Supreme Court, which is vital for the survival of things like freedom of speech and the 2nd Amendment. There is a very strong chance of killing affirmative action if Trump is able to get another guy in there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494446933 124994532,125008741,2017-05-10 20:13:52,">>125007564 Your idiocy is mind-boggling. Suppose the cost of maintaining a road averages on X per car. To make any kind of profit at all, you have to charge X*k (k > 1) per car. As long as k > 1, your non-argument that someone else can come along and give people a better deal applies. It doesn't matter if you start from k = 10 or k = 1.1, so you might as well start with as high a k as possible and then lower it when competition forms. This is irrefutable. You're just too retarded to grasp basic mathematics and business.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494447232 124994532,125008774,2017-05-10 20:14:09,">>125008093 but he wouldn't be supporting any politician if he was still the same he was years ago >>125007189 sure but Le Pen is a protecionist",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494447249 124994532,125009238,2017-05-10 20:18:01,">>125008774 >He's not exactly who I thought he was Congratulations you haven't watched more than an hours worth of his material.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494447481 124994532,125009444,2017-05-10 20:19:52,">>125008774 >sure but Le Pen is a protecionist Who cares? Do you want daily massacres or not? Apparently, 2/3 of France decided that daily massacres is the way to go. Such is the glory of democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494447592 124994532,125009927,2017-05-10 20:23:56,">>125008774 >sure but Le Pen is a protecionist So what? I'd make my foreign economic policy benefit my people. >>125008741 your ""formula"" is pure nonsense,where does this ""cost of maintaining a road averages on X per car"" bullshit come from? does the weather not affect my road? does age not affect the materials of my road? btw I'm still willing to talk but you already said that I was wasting your time. so what now bitch.",,Anonymous,Pepe.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1494447836 124994532,125010316,2017-05-10 20:27:12,">>125009927 >what is calculating the estimated cost of maintaining a road per unit of time and dividing it by the estimated number of cars driving through your road in the same unit of time I'd think you're trolling if this wasn't /pol/. The average IQ here really is this low.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494448032 124994532,125010652,2017-05-10 20:30:12,">>125010316 >what is calculating the estimated cost of maintaining a road per unit of time you didn't mesure it by units of time, you measured it per car. years can go by before another car drives on my road. your logic is shitty, and insulting me doesn't make you anymore correct.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494448212 124994532,125010744,2017-05-10 20:30:58,"Anyone has world map pic of Ancap American continent and Nat Soc Europe? It would be a world I'd live in and it makes sense. America was founded on principle of freedom and liberty so Ancap fits them best while Europe has a long and rich cultural history and makes it a priority to preserve that and keep their genetics clean",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494448258 124994532,125010758,2017-05-10 20:31:04,What about this?,,Anonymous,anarcho-mutualism.png,nraDOaKrFzO0b1xJRVfSow==,GB,,1494448264 124994532,125010794,2017-05-10 20:31:20,,,Anonymous,hhhentre.jpg,EOyhfKWmQaUHJC5AUplCgQ==,NL,,1494448280 124994532,125010991,2017-05-10 20:32:55,">>125010744 That would be the best timeline. >>125010758 the ""genderqueer"" of anarchism.",,Anonymous,GET OUT.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1494448375 124994532,125011337,2017-05-10 20:35:36,">>125010652 If it costs me $X per month to maintain a road on average, and I have Y cars driving through my road per month on average, then charging each car $X/Y dollars covers the costs of maintaining the road, and charging $X/Y*k makes a (k-1)*100% profit. You're a genuine mental cripple. Come back when you're able to do basic math.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494448536 124994532,125011696,2017-05-10 20:38:38,">>125011337 >I made a maths formula for literally no reason because apparently maths is what determines all the various factors surrounding economics You're the one who's the mental cripple here, dumbass. What do you do when I just turn my road into a dirt road and you're maintaining your shitty fucking overpriced nigger road when people can drive on mine for .50 cents because I maintain it with a fucking quad bike and an improvised rake?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494448718 124994532,125012023,2017-05-10 20:41:13,A bump for Liberty,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494448873 124994532,125012027,2017-05-10 20:41:15,">>125011337 So now were at changing the ""formula for sucess"" >maintaining a road averages on X per car. To make any kind of profit at all, you have to charge X*k (k > 1) per car. As long as k > 1 > $X per month to maintain a road on average, and I have Y cars driving through my road per month on average, then charging each car $X/Y dollars covers the costs of maintaining the road, and charging $X/Y*k makes a (k-1)*100% profit. why are you still trying faggot?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494448875 124994532,125012039,2017-05-10 20:41:17,">>125003613 >tips fedora.",,Anonymous,1490244923261.gif,n98VGU14RtXdoMvk4ptppg==,GB,,1494448877 124994532,125012276,2017-05-10 20:43:32,">>125011696 >i can maintain a 3,365 miles long dirt road with my quad bike and an improvised rake Why am I arguing with autistic children?",,Anonymous,topmost-kek.jpg,NPahsXJH9caSG9eLR1HfIQ==,IL,,1494449012 124994532,125012348,2017-05-10 20:44:15,">>125012039 What a compelling argument you have there. >>125012276 >I just made up the length of my road to be massive because I can change the subject whenever I feel like it Ok buddy boy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449055 124994532,125012453,2017-05-10 20:45:09,"Daily How to achieve a libertarian society: 1. Get a young traditional wife > 2. Get a fine job > 3. Make tons of babies > 4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other) > 5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing > 6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants > 7. Privately educate your kids. Send them to good, elite, schools where they can fulfill their quest for knowledge and make great contacts. > 8. Vote, support parties/think tanks/people that want to reduce govt and degeneracy. Godspeed.",,^~,prosper.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,PT,,1494449109 124994532,125012530,2017-05-10 20:45:46,">>125012027 >So now were at changing the ""formula for sucess"" I'm not changing anything, you subhuman. I'm just explaining to you what ""average cost per car"" means. ""X/Y"" here just corresponds to X in the other post. I just didn't think you're so retarded that you'd need me to spell it out for you how X is calculated, but I guess I should have known better given that I'm arguing with a literal meme.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494449146 124994532,125012653,2017-05-10 20:46:47,">>125012348 >all existing roads are about the same length as the ones in my redneck town You people are literal subhumans. I'm not even kidding.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494449207 124994532,125012787,2017-05-10 20:48:04,">>125012530 >X per car DOES NOT FUCKING EQUAL >X per month YOU GAYLORD.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449284 124994532,125012810,2017-05-10 20:48:15,>>125000550,,Anonymous,1494459935560.png,o4G3iP0utSm29PIzZlkboQ==,IT,,1494449295 124994532,125013009,2017-05-10 20:49:54,">>125012653 >Someone would make and maintain a singular road that spans the entirety of the continental united states because without it my argument is retarded You can always make a cheaper road than your shitty overpriced wannabee monopolistic kike piece of shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449394 124994532,125013016,2017-05-10 20:50:00,Does anyone support me when I say we should abolish the federal reserve and tie our money to gold or something universally valuable? Ron Paul's ideas? Does anyone disagree?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449400 124994532,125013204,2017-05-10 20:51:33,">>125012787 I should have known your subhuman little mind will get confused by my using the same symbol in a different context. Here, let me clarify it for you: Maintaining a road averages on X per car. To make any kind of profit at all, you have to charge X*k (k > 1) per car. X = A/B Where A is the amount of money it consts to maintain the road per time unit, and B is the number of cars that drive through your road per time unit. I don't know how to dumb it down any further for you.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494449493 124994532,125013231,2017-05-10 20:51:44,"Good riddance, the thread of the fools who completely ignore the social contract is here again.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494449504 124994532,125013251,2017-05-10 20:51:56,">>124997084 >absolutely necessary Who determines this necessity in a state of 320,000,000 people?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449516 124994532,125013335,2017-05-10 20:52:36,">>125013016 I genuinely don't understand why people say the federal reserve is bad. What's the threat?",,Anonymous,quote-there-is-no-difference-between-communism-and-socialism-except-in-the-means-of-achieving-ayn-rand-57-17-77.jpg,6F731/2r+ErWxNRuZ/pnng==,US,,1494449556 124994532,125013344,2017-05-10 20:52:41,">>125013231 ~weakest bait~",,^~,,,PT,,1494449561 124994532,125013401,2017-05-10 20:53:09,">>124994532 >Lolbertarian niggers still haven't grown out of individualism Sad!",,Anonymous,1494386206180.jpg,d1b6vjNfLZARvzRlTpMOLw==,US,,1494449589 124994532,125013470,2017-05-10 20:53:49,">>124997525 The God that failed is difficult to read. Almost as bad as Mein Kampf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449629 124994532,125013530,2017-05-10 20:54:17,">>125013231 >>>>>>>>>>>social contract >>125013401 >growing out of libertarianism >says the child who never grew out of needing a parental figure to tell him what to do",,Anonymous,6968.png,mOgU2GxEDwfGK4vqbNuo0g==,US,,1494449657 124994532,125013540,2017-05-10 20:54:22,">>125013401 >Using growing up as a measure of success when you literally want to force people to depend on each other more than needed Heh",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494449662 124994532,125013630,2017-05-10 20:55:10,">>125013009 >in ancapistan all long highways will be broken down into short dirt road segments maintained by different people on quad bikes and each one will stop and charge you",,Anonymous,bizarro-world.png,P7igVXrumT1GYWytVveqrA==,IL,,1494449710 124994532,125013913,2017-05-10 20:57:41,">>125013530 You can laugh all you want, but that doesn't change the fact your proposed system of government rests on propositions which could just as well be used to argue for the opposite.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494449861 124994532,125013934,2017-05-10 20:57:54,">>125013630 >Let me just take completely out of context everything that has been said over the last 20 posts to invent a reality that is reduced using an argumentum ad absurdum fallacy enough to justify the world in which I have power over the goyim through a monopoly of violence in the state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449874 124994532,125014015,2017-05-10 20:58:39,">>125013335 The artificial inflation of the money supply.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449919 124994532,125014079,2017-05-10 20:59:07,">>125013913 Please tell me how ""The monopolization of violence will only lead to those who wish power for themselves rising to the top and conglomerating that power through the use of violent force"" or literally any argument for ancapitalism can be used to argue for the opposite.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449947 124994532,125014124,2017-05-10 20:59:28,">>124998598 I think it's more efficient than what Hitler had; gassing >Gas Chamber >have to pack people in an area >buy gas >gas them >clean out the bodies >rinse and repeat Meanwhile >helicopter disposal >buy gas >load people in Chinooks >toss them out into the middle of nowhere >massive 300ft high mountain of bodies to commemorate the glory of Ancapistan >don't have to clean up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494449968 124994532,125014259,2017-05-10 21:00:40,">>125013934 >i am subhuman and can't address the obvious fact that my retarded dirt road maintained by a quad bike solution only works under specific circumstances As expected from a retard who shills for a meme ideology. You're inherently the same sort of trash as the average pro-immigration leftist.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494450040 124994532,125014296,2017-05-10 21:00:56,">>125014124 >buy helicopter and gas >fly over forest >drop commies in forest >animals eat all the bodies >animal population rises >hunt animals It's perfect",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450056 124994532,125014421,2017-05-10 21:02:03,">>124994532 Fiat money is the first step towards socialism? Agree or disagree?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494450123 124994532,125014464,2017-05-10 21:02:27,">>125014259 If you price gouge the consumer competitors will arise and price gouge you out of the market, kike. >You're inherently the same as a pro immigration leftist Wow, I can make up words too, here , let me try You're inherently the same as hitler, gas yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450147 124994532,125014666,2017-05-10 21:04:07,">>125014421 Imo it creates dependence on government to manage the economy, leaving socialism a huge possibility",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450247 124994532,125014772,2017-05-10 21:05:05,">>125014079 That's not of the base propositions, it's just a conclusion you jumped to from the basic libertarian axioms of property rights. From that you could go literally anywhere. Therefore, I'm not required to think up an answer.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494450305 124994532,125014781,2017-05-10 21:05:10,">>125013530 >>125013540 >Lolbertarian niggers think ""growing out"" means ""growing up"" >They are such shut in permavirgins LARP'ing about self reliance that they immediately get triggered and make straw mans Fuck off niggers",,Anonymous,1493520133604.png,NBSAiLm3hKKoRgdskXcC2g==,US,,1494450310 124994532,125014834,2017-05-10 21:05:39,">>125014421 I'd say Democracy is.",,^~,removalwave.jpg,RXlD7BGUuuZrEbju0nu4rA==,PT,,1494450339 124994532,125014897,2017-05-10 21:06:20,">>125014781 kek, he think libertarians wont side with the nazis to fuck your degenerate commie shit up.",,Anonymous,1486689016811.png,YVYe41zNT07hfgKQEznsYg==,US,,1494450380 124994532,125015004,2017-05-10 21:07:11,">>125014781 >says ancaps use strawmans >Literally just uses a strawman by saying ancaps use strawmans when they didn't Cute. >>125014772 There are multiple base axioms that come to the conclusion of ancapitalism, which one is the one you purport to disprove, friendo?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450431 124994532,125015071,2017-05-10 21:07:47,">>125013401 ""a socialist is someone who serves the common good without giving up his individuality"" -Adolf Hitler",,Anonymous,C6GfhvVUwAECmr1.jpg,zW+d9XwOdpST2016gzeDDQ==,US,,1494450467 124994532,125015114,2017-05-10 21:08:09,">>125014897 >Can't even greentext properly Capitalists need be gassed, at least communists don't deny that their heroes are Jewish.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450489 124994532,125015215,2017-05-10 21:09:09,">>125015114 He didn't even greentext you autistic commie fucktard. Go back to plebbit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450549 124994532,125015231,2017-05-10 21:09:14,">>125015004 >They didn't >After he admits they did in the same post Liberals can't think",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450554 124994532,125015292,2017-05-10 21:09:48,">>125014464 >If you price gouge the consumer competitors will arise and price gouge you out of the market I've already refuted this ""argument"". ""Price gouging"" and other value judgments are irrelevant. As long as you're making any profit at all, someone else can come along and offer a better deal, so you've ""proven"" that making any profit will ""gouge you out of the market"", while ignoring the simple fact that prices can be lowered after the fact to maintain competitiveness, the fact that there's no reason for someone else to compete with you at all because instead of competing over the path from A to B he can follow your example and go make a road from C to D and rip people off, and the fact that collusion in ancapistan will be rampant because there would be nothing to stop it. You are subhuman.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494450588 124994532,125015309,2017-05-10 21:09:57,">>125015114 >He needs to tryhard to fit in.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450597 124994532,125015367,2017-05-10 21:10:21,">>124998829 >Your ideology is as delusional and stupid as the ""utopian"" marxists. In the end you don't care about anyone but yourself. And you want to eliminate any societal order or government so you can live an immoral hedonistic degenerate life without consequence. What makes you think libertarians want to get rid of ""societal order""? What makes you think that government is the only provider of ""consequences"" for an immoral life?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450621 124994532,125015389,2017-05-10 21:10:33,">>125015215 I was telling him to greentext when he talks in the 3rd person in a mocking tone you illiterate nigger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450633 124994532,125015453,2017-05-10 21:11:14,">>125015309 Newfags >>>/out/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450674 124994532,125015518,2017-05-10 21:11:56,">>125001588 Fuck off with this low-tier bait",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1494450716 124994532,125015544,2017-05-10 21:12:11,">>125015071 Yes, after you fix yourself individually you move onto collectivism you absolute mong",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450731 124994532,125015588,2017-05-10 21:12:36,">>125015518 Capitalists are left wing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450756 124994532,125015610,2017-05-10 21:12:47,">>125015231 You're literally just making shit up. You said that he used greentext when he didn't, you said that one of us used a strawman when we didn't, you said that I somehow admitted that I did when I didn't. Wow, commies just make up their own reality to justify their idiocy, who would have thought? >>125015389 Not every fucking third person sentence has to be a greentext you fucking newfag. >>125015292 >I just made a nonsensical paragraph that proves nothing and called him subhuman, I win! Wow, good job.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450767 124994532,125015658,2017-05-10 21:13:14,">>125014897 nazis need to be gassed, they are traitorous disloyal degenerate faggots",,Anonymous,1494073226444.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,SE,,1494450794 124994532,125015768,2017-05-10 21:14:14,">>125004568 If the government doesn't exist, how will we maintain our lawns?!?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450854 124994532,125015804,2017-05-10 21:14:34,">>125015658 remove the ""nu-pol"" narrative cancer, and it'd be a fine image.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450874 124994532,125015820,2017-05-10 21:14:40,">>125015610 >once again the subhuman can't comprehend, let alone address the total destruction of his ""arguments"" Ancapistanism at its finest. :)",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494450880 124994532,125015889,2017-05-10 21:15:23,">>125010744 >>125010991 found it",,Anonymous,1493175822885.png,MJI4Yg7Nh8FhQCrSjBUwIQ==,PT,,1494450923 124994532,125015917,2017-05-10 21:15:41,">>125015768 >Ancapistani retard fails to address the argument What a shocker. Let's just face it: there's a reason why people keep mocking you with this road thing: you are so subhuman and your ideology is so retarded that you can't address even basic things like that.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494450941 124994532,125015930,2017-05-10 21:15:49,">>125015610 >You said that he used greentext when he didn't, No you absolute underage nigger, take your newfag ass back to 9gag , I was telling him to greentext I never said he greentext holy shit >>>/noose/ >>>/bleach/ >>>/bridge/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494450949 124994532,125015959,2017-05-10 21:16:06,">>125015453 >>125015544 >>125015588 LOL says the self-proclaimed leftypol faggot show me the traditionalist socialist monarchies. you can't cuz they fucking fuedal capitalists fag lol top zozzle check that shit. hail victory",,Anonymous,1493766743211.png,a7YY0OldFV2QbZLPmwC2SQ==,US,,1494450966 124994532,125015993,2017-05-10 21:16:23,,,^~,fuck-multiculti.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,PT,,1494450983 124994532,125016024,2017-05-10 21:16:40,">>125015820 You literally only said ""You proved this though"" when I didn't, then went on a half paragraph rant that meant absolutely nothing. You should take your cyanide pills, you talk like a kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451000 124994532,125016068,2017-05-10 21:17:05,"Can somebody explain the difference between paleoconservatism and paleolibertarianism to me? I'm somewhere in-between but I don't really know where that is. For example, I am a strong social conservative but don't believe the government should enforce social conservatism upon the people. I want a federal government that is very strong on national defense and leaves most everything else up to state/local government. I also don't believe that being able to kill your unborn child is a right, and that the government should step in when it comes to this issue. Am I more paleocon or paleolib? Either I'm cool with to be honest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451025 124994532,125016084,2017-05-10 21:17:15,"There is no libertarian ""right"". There's degrees of libertarianism though, that range from almost statist to almost anarchist. The actual right-wing in the west is full on authoritarian statist rife with cronyism, corporatism, and neoconservativism, qualities that libertarians fight against.",,Anonymous,3502d16b-67f9-4594-9a82-8be5d7e78bfe.jpg,IuBjtR808C6l0krIxhCZcw==,US,,1494451035 124994532,125016109,2017-05-10 21:17:31,>>125015889,,Anonymous,Thumbs up.png,1xrQED6+FM/hRdCRFO4NzQ==,US,,1494451051 124994532,125016113,2017-05-10 21:17:34,">>125015959 >Self proclaimed /leftypol/ Literally where? Me saying that I choose commies over degenerate liberals is banter meant to make you self reflect about your hedonistic and materialist idealogy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451054 124994532,125016193,2017-05-10 21:18:14,">>125016113 >Sad! come on be real with me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451094 124994532,125016197,2017-05-10 21:18:16,">>125015004 I won't try to disprove anything, because that would take too much work. All I wanted to say is that there's nothing stopping individuals from consenting to a social contract, as per your ethics, and that's what gives legitimacy to any kinds of states.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494451096 124994532,125016264,2017-05-10 21:18:58,">>125012453 Sup bro? How ya doing? Still totally agree",,Anonymous,Better.png,bupYR7+TY1cYhKWJ9hSHHw==,US,,1494451138 124994532,125016265,2017-05-10 21:18:58,">>125015930 >I was telling him to greentext I never said he greentext holy shit Wow, I wrote that part of it before you made this post >>125015389 Now try and disprove that you didn't just make up all that other shit you mentally ill retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451138 124994532,125016277,2017-05-10 21:19:07,">>125015889 >The Final Reich",,Anonymous,1487543793806.png,JWYBoLzpIcJGuJYU/qiI0Q==,US,,1494451147 124994532,125016284,2017-05-10 21:19:09,">>125016068 >paleolibertarianism Conservatives who think the state is awful in the production of security but want to temporarily unite with the paleocons to reduce state size and degeneracy.",,^~,moço.png,uNKKOGSYTu2Y2foX4fEjjQ==,PT,,1494451149 124994532,125016299,2017-05-10 21:19:18,">>125015993 Sperg nationalism confirmed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451158 124994532,125016368,2017-05-10 21:19:58,">>125016024 >i'm too subhuman to comprehend simple english text Yeah, I get it. You have to be in order to buy into the AnCap meme. You seriously need to die in a quad bike accident so that you couldn't spread your degenerate genes. I can already tell your children will be retarded welfare rednecks.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494451198 124994532,125016380,2017-05-10 21:20:07,">>125015917 This shit gets debunked every single fucking time. Maybe he's just fucking tired of repeating himself.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1494451207 124994532,125016386,2017-05-10 21:20:14,">>125016197 >there's nothing stopping individuals from consenting to a social contract the ""social contract"" does not require consent, that is why it is invalid. If you are proposing a situation in which individuals consent to a contract to join a town or somesuch, that is simply a ""Contract""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451214 124994532,125016453,2017-05-10 21:20:57,">>125016368 >I still haven't made a single argument except calling the goy subhuman Can't wait for the day of the rope.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451257 124994532,125016495,2017-05-10 21:21:20,">>125016265 Holy shit stop being such a sperg, I told the other guy to greentext because he's, like most of the libertarians on /pol/, is a newfag who doesn't know how to meme. I was calling him a newfag like you. Fuck off underage go cry in the corner",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451280 124994532,125016527,2017-05-10 21:21:33,">>125016380 >Maybe he's just fucking tired of repeating himself. Or maybe you people are genuinely retarded and just can't address basic issues, as demonstrated by the persistent failure of your mentally challenged buddies to even understand the arguments brought against their meme ideology. Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494451293 124994532,125016598,2017-05-10 21:22:11,">>125015993 nice, but nazis need to be crushed just as much as communists",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494451331 124994532,125016603,2017-05-10 21:22:14,">>125016068 You are paleoconservative. It depends on whether you think the gov't should encourage social conservativism instead of forcing it upon people. But you are definitely more paleocon if your focus is on decentralization of gov't without necessarily stripping it of its power. Which isn't a problem, you are still more libertarian than the average neocon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451334 124994532,125016653,2017-05-10 21:22:41,">>125016495 >I make up reality to suit my situation and call other people newfags and underage all the time trust me i'm not a newfag or underage, see I used the word newfag and meme and /pol/ and underage i'm totally one of you guys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451361 124994532,125016709,2017-05-10 21:23:16,">>125016453 >i'm so subhuman and worthless that i have to lie that no arguments have been made because i don't have the mental capacity to understand them You're a sad, intellectually challenged and disgusting little creature, just like very AnCap cult member I've met. Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494451396 124994532,125016746,2017-05-10 21:23:43,">>125016598 The NAP is an egalitarian extension of the family ethic. Prove me wrong you liberal trash",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451423 124994532,125016802,2017-05-10 21:24:15,"No actual libertarian would endorse Le Pen, given that she's pretty much the embodiment of nationalism and economic protectionism, a full supporter of extreme governmental intervention within the markets.",,Anonymous,9ce1f557-b970-4148-a8c3-de24c3916b71.gif,T+IEI4+AZtm04e9OlY50hg==,US,,1494451455 124994532,125016820,2017-05-10 21:24:22,">>125016598 McGas them for sure.",,^~,1488586820209.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1494451462 124994532,125016823,2017-05-10 21:24:25,">>125016653 >Making up reality Just go back and read the thread holy fuck kid",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451465 124994532,125016826,2017-05-10 21:24:25,">>125016709 Sorry you can't realize when you've made a non-sequiter instead of an argument, maybe you should go back to preschool, or just fucking hang yourself. >>125016746 >I made some shit up >prove me wrong That's not how the burden of proof works, retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451465 124994532,125016856,2017-05-10 21:24:38,">>125016386 Yes, it does require consent. The moment you live in a country you're consenting to the contract.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494451478 124994532,125016950,2017-05-10 21:25:31,">>125016826 >I don't understand what this means >Therefore it does not exist Spooky",,Anonymous,download.png,2Jzy1GXZUQCcWjSQ27MIcw==,US,,1494451531 124994532,125017053,2017-05-10 21:26:25,"I want to discuss libertarian ideals particularly the role of federal reserve plus money backed by gold/silver. Stop bickering and calling each other names",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451585 124994532,125017124,2017-05-10 21:27:01,">>125016856 >You're consenting to a contract by being born Wow what a complete nonsense statement, maybe you should read literally any fucking refutation of the social contract before you shitpost in this thread. >>125016950 You literally made shit up, claiming a statement was a strawman when it wasn't. You're either a shill or actually retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451621 124994532,125017138,2017-05-10 21:27:13,">>125016802 The only reason I could see a libertarian support her is for decentralization, which is pretty important to libertarians. Still Macron is definitely the libertarian candidate, I just disagree with him on what I see as the most important issue in Europe, which is why I hesitantly supported Le Pen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451633 124994532,125017143,2017-05-10 21:27:18,">>125016746 WTF is the ""family ethic""?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451638 124994532,125017246,2017-05-10 21:28:15,">>125016856 To whom belongs the land? Not the state. They have illegitimate control.",,^~,1488286936432.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1494451695 124994532,125017271,2017-05-10 21:28:33,">>124994532 Please check out New York Uni economist Robert Murphy and Tom Woods Colombia Uni economists weekly segment Contra Krugman https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdk3QkJlYPXYV4yuQPteo5Q Where they respond to Krugman's recent articles",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494451713 124994532,125017297,2017-05-10 21:28:49,">>124997525 I asked him over Instajew. Apparently he isn't a /pol/ack.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170510-182620.png,c7mQtnI/kOn/RMYMuJM4Yw==,US,,1494451729 124994532,125017474,2017-05-10 21:30:33,">>125017143 >Capitalists don't even know what family ethics are Can't make this shit up >>125017124 I told those newfags to grow ""out"" of their idealogy not grow ""up"", then they responded with >Hurr implying a fascist is grown up >I'm an ADULT fuck off Nazi How is that not a strawman?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451833 124994532,125017537,2017-05-10 21:31:10,">>125008741 The incentive to charge as much as you can get away with is a good thing. It's what sets the initial market value of the service. That creates the price signals necessary to tell other entrepreneurs to direct resources towards providing a competing service. Because the profit margins are so high they can afford to undercut the competition and still make a large profit. Competition between these providers and potential providers is what drives the market value of the service down. Tending towards the lowest possible price that you can still turn a profit on. Cartels are a different matter what discourages collusion is the threat of any signal provider defecting and immediately gaining the majority of the market share.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494451870 124994532,125017612,2017-05-10 21:31:59,">>125017138 >which is why I hesitantly supported Le Pen. >I like Macron Defend this capitalists",,Anonymous,1494462626925.png,/MooCgweiB9z9dFz/EkbIw==,US,,1494451919 124994532,125017636,2017-05-10 21:32:11,">>125017474 So are you admitting you don't know what the ""family ethic"" is? I asked a pretty easy to understand question I thought.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451931 124994532,125017638,2017-05-10 21:32:13,Libertarians have a fundamentally jewish and marxist view of the world. The entire narrative of humanity being merely units of account was introduced to whites in Marx's Capital.,,Anonymous,g0jcs3en6rfztnhtbyw1.gif,Hi65vPIaflH4/BIh5ugXbQ==,US,,1494451933 124994532,125017663,2017-05-10 21:32:27,">>125017297 damn, we'll have to internet bully him to do pay us a visit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451947 124994532,125017723,2017-05-10 21:33:03,">>125017474 >I... I SAID GROW OUT... NOT GROW UP! The word grow in grow out directly implies age, you fucking illiterate moron. to ""grow out"" of something literally originates from the fucking concept of growing out of a pair of clothes because you're fucking GROWING UP God you're a fucking retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451983 124994532,125017736,2017-05-10 21:33:11,">>125017474 A strawman is a misrepresentation of an argument. He insulted you, ad hominem is the correct term. >>125017612 Perhaps because no candidate ever fully agrees with the voter, so they have to weigh their interests?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494451991 124994532,125017764,2017-05-10 21:33:32,">>125017638 You kikes seriously aren't even trying anymore.",,Anonymous,e9d.jpg,vE4jQELjCdc6agE6TibR0w==,US,,1494452012 124994532,125017863,2017-05-10 21:34:36,>>125017638,,Anonymous,9874337.png,1+L6g1K6jrJ94qjMiHuoIw==,US,,1494452076 124994532,125017897,2017-05-10 21:34:55,">>125017636 If you don't the answer already it's too late for you. Just think really hard where the roots of the NAP come from and how it relates to ""kin"" and ""family"" as seperate concepts. But knowing capitalists you probably don't know what the difference is between those.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452095 124994532,125017970,2017-05-10 21:35:34,">>125017638 (bait.jpg) (you)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452134 124994532,125017996,2017-05-10 21:35:46,">>125017723 >Out means up now Can't make this shit out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452146 124994532,125018001,2017-05-10 21:35:48,">>125017638 I'll be the first to admit that most libertarians are inherently selfish, especially when advocating that charities be responsible for helping others while at the same time involving themselves in no charitable work whatsoever. To be honest, libertarianism will never be taken seriously until that problem is solved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452148 124994532,125018060,2017-05-10 21:36:32,">>125017764 National Socialism is government for the nation and the people. To have a libertarian utopia you'd have to kill off all the kikes because they run the money game. Whites, blacks whoever can't beat them Is mass extermination agreeable with the NAP?",,Anonymous,1494196171904.jpg,nevdilXqRiJpkR1JFoySxA==,US,,1494452192 124994532,125018092,2017-05-10 21:36:52,>>125012453,,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1494452212 124994532,125018115,2017-05-10 21:37:02,">>125018001 > get taxed 50% > cant rely on government pension plan (must go bust) > pay 10-20% sales tax > pay tax on everything > is expected to be charitable",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494452222 124994532,125018120,2017-05-10 21:37:05,">>125017897 NAP has nothing to do with family anything, unless you can post some kind of proof of what you're saying your comments are irrelevant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452225 124994532,125018124,2017-05-10 21:37:07,,,Anonymous,Ancap_flag.png,62QyIWBLETqLeMTTGhDPlQ==,US,,1494452227 124994532,125018152,2017-05-10 21:37:30,">>125017897 >HAHA LIBERTARIANS ARE SO STUPID THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE NAP IS LITERALLY JUST X >What.. you want me to explain what X is? >HAHA LIBERTARIANS ARE STUPID THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT X IS >wait you want me to explain what x is >what are you stupid? >>125017996 You are literally just inventing reality to suit your retarded statements.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452250 124994532,125018205,2017-05-10 21:37:59,">>125018060 If someone does not believe in rights, then their rights do not have to be reciprocated. At least this is the logic for the hardcore helicopter tossers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452279 124994532,125018254,2017-05-10 21:38:30,">>125017736 Yes it's an ad hominem and a strawman because they were attacking something I didn't even say.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452310 124994532,125018297,2017-05-10 21:38:57,">>125018001 >>125018115 I actually pay lots of charities at my church and I don't even get that as a tax deductible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452337 124994532,125018337,2017-05-10 21:39:21,">>125017124 Same principle by which people are allowed to kick others out of their property. If all the land belongs to the state, or all the citizens consented to have the state's laws apply on their property, it's justified. There are millions of ways to go about it. The trick is to use your own property rights in a way to make the other person have no other rational choice but to agree to your terms. After all, children are individuals with just as many rights as adults, yes?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494452361 124994532,125018360,2017-05-10 21:39:35,">>125018297 what state do you live in and how much do you pay in tax?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494452375 124994532,125018387,2017-05-10 21:39:52,GET THE FUCK OFF OF THE GOD DAMN INTERNET. FASCISTS ONLY YOU FISCAL KEKS. God damn it.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452392 124994532,125018414,2017-05-10 21:40:04,"Wage slavery is still slavery. >b-but it's a voluntary exchange Wrong. The employer's control of an employee's income and benefits, effectively his standard of living in libertopia, is inherently a tool of coercion in a negotiation. Even chattel slaves weren't as disposable as the working man would be in ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452404 124994532,125018451,2017-05-10 21:40:29,">>125018152 >ALL CAPS >Supposedly knows what the NAP is but has no fucking clue how that relates to how one treats a family >Keeps stirner posting Liberals need to be genocided.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452429 124994532,125018461,2017-05-10 21:40:34,">>125008741 >It doesn't matter if you start from k = 10 or k = 1.1, so you might as well start with as high a k as possible and then lower it when competition forms. This is irrefutable. You're just too retarded to grasp basic mathematics and business. Yeah, charge $1 million to drive down your 1 mile road so you average about 0 cars per year. If you expect to make money from your road project, you'd want to build it somewhere that will have a decent amount of traffic. Which means your road is going to have other property owners nearby who you'll probably have to talk to about acquiring the land for your road. How do you think those property owners will feel about your pricing scheme? Will business owners want customers coming into their stores pissed off and with little money to spend after they paid to use your road? Will housing developers appreciate having to seriously cut the price of the homes to account for the high road fees that have to be paid to get to those homes? Then there's the issue of enforcement. What if someone uses your road and doesn't pay your fee? Not every arbitrator is going to be a contract purist, and if you are running an economically inefficient scheme then the market may not enforce your contracts to the letter. But let's say your scheme is successful. You make your temporary windfall, competition arises, then you gradually cut your price to a point just high enough to make a profit. How is that worse than a government monopoly that perpetually blows money on inefficient, corrupt infrastructure projects?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452434 124994532,125018481,2017-05-10 21:40:45,">>125018115 I'm taxed heavily but I spend much of my free time involved in charitable work. Charity is not just about money. Time and labor have value as well. Libertarians have a major PR problem with appearance of selfishness, and whining about welfare only makes it worse. To speak with your actions is much more convincing than complaining about everything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452445 124994532,125018483,2017-05-10 21:40:46,">>125017246 It may belong to the state, just as the it may belong to the people who have agreed to allow the state to enforce its laws inside their property.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494452446 124994532,125018611,2017-05-10 21:42:00,">>125018337 >if all people consent to the state it's justified Wow congratulations, you still can't consent without even consenting like you said you could by ""simply being in the country"" Also, the state doesn't own the land just because it claims to own the land, that's not how property rights work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452520 124994532,125018639,2017-05-10 21:42:14,">>125018297 Why not contribute to other charities then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452534 124994532,125018653,2017-05-10 21:42:21,is there a single non-jewish major libertarian name?,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494452541 124994532,125018670,2017-05-10 21:42:31,">>125010758 I'm generally cool with it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452551 124994532,125018675,2017-05-10 21:42:34,">>125018092 Fuck that's awesome. Thanks, mayne. >>125018483 >people who have agreed to allow the state to enforce its laws inside their property Do you really think all people who own land consent to the state? Pathetic.",,^~,1491687812584.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1494452554 124994532,125018690,2017-05-10 21:42:41,">>125018360 Florida. I pay 15%",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452561 124994532,125018727,2017-05-10 21:43:01,">>125018451 >has made literally no argument",,Anonymous,3167137.jpg,Ze9osLDsYDYRkSOWAFq+dA==,US,,1494452581 124994532,125018872,2017-05-10 21:44:26,">>125018414 The employer can just fire the employee and do the services himself. It IS a voluntary exchange. If he fires the employee and does te work himself are you ok with that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452666 124994532,125018873,2017-05-10 21:44:28,">>125018675 >Liberal flag next to an Indio chick Race mixing is the only way forward goyim, don't tread on me or my hijo de esposa ever again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452668 124994532,125018875,2017-05-10 21:44:29,">>125018653 Robert Murphy Thomas Wood Thomas DiLorenzo Lew Rockwell (a bit of a nut) Gary North (semi-retired not famous) Hans Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494452669 124994532,125018941,2017-05-10 21:45:01,">>125018414 Labor rights are an inherent part of libertarianism, additionally lower labor costs result in lower prices. Finally there is no such thing as a worker that has no choice but to work for a single company.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452701 124994532,125019061,2017-05-10 21:46:02,">>125018060 yeah we should get rid of the kikes, I think you'll find that they're mostly leftists and communists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452762 124994532,125019079,2017-05-10 21:46:12,">>125018639 Well I do, not a lot, and mostly because I don't exactly know where my money goes to so I like to stay knowledgeable. I trust the church",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452772 124994532,125019085,2017-05-10 21:46:16,">>125018727 See >>125016746",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452776 124994532,125019113,2017-05-10 21:46:28,">>125018875 isn't hoppe part jewish? I don't count these other names as major tho. They're not as big as Mises or Rothbard or Hoppe and shit",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494452788 124994532,125019200,2017-05-10 21:47:17,">>125018414 Post like these should not be responded to. Our opponents should learn to make arguments or desist. What is wage slavery? Is it the realization that after 30 years you are not worth more than minimum wage to someone? > Wrong, The employer .... You actually haven't shown how it is slavery? Slavery is working for someone else's benefit forcibly with no recompense. There is literally no point in responding to you since you don't care about changing your mind.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494452837 124994532,125019228,2017-05-10 21:47:31,">>125019113 No, he isn't.",,^~,,,PT,,1494452851 124994532,125019290,2017-05-10 21:48:14,">>125018872 This doesn't make sense. You hire people to do the jobs you and your existing staff can't already do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452894 124994532,125019298,2017-05-10 21:48:21,">>125019085 Wow, you're a fucking retard >what is the family ethic >DUHHH YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE THING I SPEWED OUT OF MY ASS IS? WELL WHAT ARE YOU A RETARD? You also have the fucking burden of proof to prove that your ""family ethic"" is the origin of the NAP, retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452901 124994532,125019318,2017-05-10 21:48:34,">>125018481 I'm charitable in my day to day with a few tax deductible donations but I'm mostly charitable by helping family out with money, giving friends/family a place to stay when they need it, helping them on my weekends etc but the state really has made it pointless to help strangers when everything is illegal or heavily controlled and they take $160 billion/$400billion in taxation purely for welfare and we still have 100,000/24mil homeless, a sizeable chunk in poverty/undermployment and they take so much of our money it makes it impossible to help anyone. This is pure and simple statism gone mad and I won't claim responsibility when it's illegal to help.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494452914 124994532,125019388,2017-05-10 21:49:11,">>125019113 No, he's very german and catholic i believe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494452951 124994532,125019425,2017-05-10 21:49:31,">>125018611 >Wow congratulations, you still can't consent without even consenting like you said you could by ""simply being in the country"" I believe I just explained why I thought they could. >Also, the state doesn't own the land just because it claims to own the land, that's not how property rights work. The state has as much power over the land as the proprietors of the land consented to it having. That might go from outright transferring property rights to the state, doing it under certains conditions, or merely consenting to managing their property in a specific way (such as anyone who steps in it must follow the state's law).",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494452971 124994532,125019434,2017-05-10 21:49:36,">>125019318 > heavily controlled and they take $160 billion/$400billion in taxation purely for welfare and we still have 100,000/24mil homeless, a sizeable chunk in poverty/undermployment and they take so much of our money it makes it impossible to help anyone. Unbelievable.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494452976 124994532,125019505,2017-05-10 21:50:13,">>125018675 Yes. In a way or another they did.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494453013 124994532,125019663,2017-05-10 21:51:54,">>125019200 >Slavery is working for someone else's benefit forcibly with no recompense. This. Just work in my factory 9 to 5, 5 days of the week to buy products made by our associates goyim, or get lost you fucking bum, I'm not lowering your mortgage. AND DONT EXPECT ME TO PAY YOU FOR LEECHING OF MY- I mean - OUR PROFITS! WELFARE? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You fucking goyim, you don't deserve my money, now you're getting replaced by robots and brown people you ungrateful goy. This is what you deserve.",,Anonymous,B9317852128Z.1_20150624174211_000_GGLB62AG4.1-0.jpg,+o2O8deX2m1FeJpRPGrxjQ==,US,,1494453114 124994532,125019671,2017-05-10 21:51:58,">>125019290 But they can.. If they want.. It's just easier to have someone else do it so you can be more efficient at doing what YOU do, like running the company",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453118 124994532,125019757,2017-05-10 21:52:42,">>125019505 How do you know they consented if they never had the choice to say 'no'? Makes absolutely no sense, what a tremendous lack of logic.",,^~,16178750_10154822693563672_4444277423750438121_o.jpg,5efcChAVRVy09N0Lx9mzAg==,PT,,1494453162 124994532,125019800,2017-05-10 21:53:10,">>125019425 >I believe I just explained why I thought they could No, you just made a statement saying that they can, that's not a proof. >the state has as much power as the proprietors of the land consented to having That's fairly irrelevant. A contract enforced by coercion is a non-valid contract. All current state contracts as to the ownership of property of those who consent to the state are completely invalid due to the fact that they were consented upon via coercion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453190 124994532,125019821,2017-05-10 21:53:17,">>125019434 It's almost like welfare doesn't fucking work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453197 124994532,125019826,2017-05-10 21:53:19,">>125019663 geeee an actual anti-semite on the INTERNET of all places",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494453199 124994532,125019876,2017-05-10 21:53:42,">>125019318 Everybody does that stuff. That's called being a normal well adjusted human being. I'm talking about going beyond the normal shit and showing people that voluntary charity can make a difference. The more you do this and spread the word, the less of a case involuntary wealth distribution (ie welfare) has. volunteer.com.au has over 12000 opportunities for volunteering.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453222 124994532,125019956,2017-05-10 21:54:25,">>125019298 >Durr I haven't actually read Rothbard or Hoppe but I call myself a radical libertarian minarchists/ ancaps I was implying that the NAP is an egalitarian and forces assertion of kinship and family among people you have nothing in common with based on secular reasoning. Holy shit lurkmoar",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453265 124994532,125019999,2017-05-10 21:54:50,">>125019663 >let me just make a bogeyman to justify my totalitarian state that actually has complete control over you and benefits the manipulators like the jew the most >Still hasn't explained what his retarded family ethic nonsense is I wonder who the real kike is here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453290 124994532,125020003,2017-05-10 21:54:52,">>125019434 > 24 million population > 12 million employed > 2 million+ public servants > 10 million private sector > only 5 million are net tax payers supporting the other 19 million > $10b spent on unemployment benefits > while $15b spent on non-citizen welfare These retards need to start fresh, wipe the slate and build a new budget from scratch because these kinds of misallocations are economic stagnation are observable fucking everywhere. > 2007: 2.07million businesses > 2017: 2.17million businesses > 61% of those busuness' don't employ anyone > population up 4 million > people wonder why hundreds of people applying for each job forcing wages down despite productivity growth This fuckin country REEEEE",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494453292 124994532,125020008,2017-05-10 21:54:54,">>125019821 70% of lottery winners go broke http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/01/why_do_70_percent_of_lottery_w.html Time preference is the answer.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494453294 124994532,125020098,2017-05-10 21:55:40,">>125019826 >You can be critical of all other groups except Jews Want to know how I know you're a crypto-kike?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453340 124994532,125020108,2017-05-10 21:55:44,">>125020008 Democracy encourages a high time preference. Right-wing dictatorship now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453344 124994532,125020131,2017-05-10 21:55:55,">>125019876 Also who the fuck is going to take a libertarian ranting about welfare seriously when they're not actively involved in charitable work? That's like listening to a fat guy give you diet advice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453355 124994532,125020160,2017-05-10 21:56:12,">>125020003 Where do we begin?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494453372 124994532,125020248,2017-05-10 21:56:54,">>125020098 What did jews do wrong, fuck you nazi pig",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494453414 124994532,125020314,2017-05-10 21:57:35,">>125020131 Molymeme please, Libertarians are everywhere supporting grass roots alternatives like; free state, charity, bitcoin, Uber, 3D printers, #LibertarianTip etc We're working on it world wide to try and shift the culture which politics is a lagging indicator for but it's difficult not being an unemployed student with nothing to do Monday-Saturday. Give it time.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494453455 124994532,125020352,2017-05-10 21:57:56,">>125019757 They did have a chance to say no. The contract starts the moment you step inside a country. The people who formed the country agreed, and from then if you purchase any land inside it from them, it is under the condition that you agree to the contract as they did.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494453476 124994532,125020398,2017-05-10 21:58:26,">>125020098 You are so fucking obviously not from here. You try to use all the /pol/lack terms like cryptokike and newfag and underage all the fucking time, all the while you can barely even fucking type a goddamn sentence, and completely ignore any genuine fucking criticisms of your retardation and then move the goalposts just like the slimy little kike you are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453506 124994532,125020452,2017-05-10 21:58:57,">>125020131 It's not the same, and it's reasonable to not do charity since 1/4 of your income is already being used for country welfare. It's practical to not be charitable, I agree it doesn't look good to liberals who want to be swayed thougj",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453537 124994532,125020498,2017-05-10 21:59:25,">>125020248 I should probably get a copypasta for his, but basically they are the cause for how shitty the 19th and 20th centuries were, even now they are complete cunts who need to be genocided off the face of the earth , giving them Israel is not enough.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453565 124994532,125020597,2017-05-10 22:00:17,">>125018941 >Labor rights are an inherent part of libertarianism Not in the contemporary sense of the ideology. >additionally lower labor costs result in lower prices Lower prices of goods to an extent, but high social costs due to negative externalities not factored into the employer's calculation of the value of the employee's work. >Finally there is no such thing as a worker that has no choice but to work for a single company. Make people desperate enough and remove all restrictions on corporations from colluding and forming monopolies and this will no longer be the case. Walmart isn't America's #1 employer because it offers such high value positions compared to everyone else, it's just because they flush out smaller businesses in the area with their low prices and people need to work in order to eat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453617 124994532,125020613,2017-05-10 22:00:26,">>125020352 The ""Country"" does not exist There is endless fucking wilderness inside the US, the state has no claim whatsoever to that wilderness or any other aspect of any of the property until the moment that it removes it's violent threat of coercion from the heads of the people who's land it supposedly owns, and then they voluntarily consent to it. And even still it would own absolutely fuckall of the wilderness, and none of the infrastructure, because it was made with the stolen money of those who were under coercion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453626 124994532,125020620,2017-05-10 22:00:28,">>125020352 The point is flying over your head. It's not consensual if you can't say no. A contract needs consent to be morally or rationally valid. There's is no such thing a ""social contract"".",,^~,,,PT,,1494453628 124994532,125020636,2017-05-10 22:00:43,">>125013470 What did you find difficult about it? I find Hoppe to be a precise writer.",,Anonymous,bernieno.jpg,DSEwKbPC3niZAZPVAXHLzQ==,US,,1494453643 124994532,125020651,2017-05-10 22:00:53,">>125020398 Not an argument >Keeps trying to LARP about muh secret club /pol/ was created in 2011 because joot couldn't handle the Nazi posting on /new/ all libertarians on here are newfags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453653 124994532,125020763,2017-05-10 22:02:00,">>125020452 That's the point though. Libertarian ideals will never make progress if people aren't convinced that things like the welfare state aren't necessary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453720 124994532,125020765,2017-05-10 22:02:01,">>125020160 You can wipe out the entire budget deficit by doing two things: > cut all welfare to non-citizens that aren't part of bi-lateral cross country welfare agreements ie. 700,000/800,000 cut = around $10b > force all boomers with $1.5m+ worth of assets to live off those assets and not tax payers saving another $20b+ A few other low hanging fruit and you're back to surplus and can then go about doing whatever conservative/libertarian policy revolution you want. Astounds ,me the whinging Liberals on TV ""uh we can't pass anything cos the senate won't let us fix the budget so we're going to pass a high taxing labor budget instead"" despite Leyonhjelm sitting there week after week, month after month pointing out all the ridiculous spending that can easily be cut.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494453721 124994532,125020780,2017-05-10 22:02:11,">>125020498 >How shitty the 19th and 20th centuries were You mean the greatest economic centuries in world fucking history, are you mad that the goy got money, you fucking kike? Leftism and totalitarianism are ideologies created by the jew, freedom and liberty created the greatest wealth and equality of any time in history, all in only 100 years of practicing it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453731 124994532,125020889,2017-05-10 22:03:09,">>125020398 >Ignore criticisms You haven't posted any criticisms , you have only just meme posted , LARP'd about muh sekrit club, and said that evening I say isn't real. You have no ability to think and need to an hero immediately.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453789 124994532,125020928,2017-05-10 22:03:29,">>125020651 Maybe if you replied to the times I did make arguments instead of ignoring them like the slimy little fucking kike you are then you could actually respond to one, nigger. Libertarians were in /new/ before you fucking stormfaggots were.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453809 124994532,125020984,2017-05-10 22:03:57,">>125019800 It was not coercion. When a state is formed, everyone with property inside it consented willfully to it. If you buy land from them, it is also under the condition that you consent. If you step on their land, you have to consent. There's no way to go about things other than consenting. Is that what you would call coercion, if nobody forced you to enter their property?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494453837 124994532,125021006,2017-05-10 22:04:08,">>125020763 I understand. It's an end goal. But when ur trying to earn a living it sucks. It's double spending",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453848 124994532,125021056,2017-05-10 22:04:25,">>125020131 I donate 1/10 of my money to the church each year as well as 10 hours a month helping plan or working at soup kitchens for the homeless.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453865 124994532,125021137,2017-05-10 22:05:07,">>125020780 >You mean the greatest economic centuries in world fucking history, They centuries of industrial slaughter and destruction, fuck you and your money grubbing value system you fucking kike. The economy is not something to be inherently values, and I couldn't care less about muh GDP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453907 124994532,125021195,2017-05-10 22:05:36,">>125020889 >you haven't posted any criticisms OH REALLY WHAT ARE THESE THEN? >>125020780 >>125019999 >>125019298 >>125018727 >>125018152 >>125017723 >>125017124 >>125016826 >>125016653 >>125016265 >>125015610 >>125015215 >>125015004 >>125013530",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494453936 124994532,125021243,2017-05-10 22:06:03,">>125020984 >When a state is formed, everyone with property inside it consented willfully to it. That's where you're wrong you fucking dense monkey. Just read out loud what you wrote 10 times and see if it makes sense to you. If it still does disconnect from the fucking internet, Jesus.",,^~,1469702888007.jpg,LWUiv/vA0KzN+F2/Ym11Zw==,PT,,1494453963 124994532,125021335,2017-05-10 22:06:44,">>125020928 /new/ was never a ""libertarian"" board, it was just contrarian and then all of the edgelord became Nazis and thus /pol/ was created Also, post a single fucking link to you making an argument. Just one will do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454004 124994532,125021351,2017-05-10 22:06:53,">>125019200 >Slavery is working for someone else's benefit forcibly with no recompense. If you need to work for someone or otherwise face poverty, homelessness, and starvation how is that not forceful? The compensation is merely a form of rent instead of ownership of one's self to another.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454013 124994532,125021449,2017-05-10 22:07:41,is somalia de facto libertarian?,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494454061 124994532,125021477,2017-05-10 22:07:56,">>125021195 Meme posting, sperging, non arguments, and stirner posting. You aren't arguing about points you are arguing about ME , ya fuckin twit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454076 124994532,125021514,2017-05-10 22:08:08,">>125020613 The U.S. is not the only country in the world. Also, just say that the government claimed the land on paper before the settlers did. You can say that the people who gave the money for the infrastructure consented to it, and that the people who use the infrastructure consent to giving the land to the state. I dunno, it's late night and I'm lacking imagination, but the contract ALWAYS finds a way.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494454088 124994532,125021586,2017-05-10 22:08:44,">>125021449 It's a perfect example of free market ancapistan economics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454124 124994532,125021640,2017-05-10 22:09:06,"how does LRG answer to this koran libtard? >- Free Market / Government Size. The whole of South Korea is a giant middle finger to the libertarian economic theory that government actions are bad and free market must reign supreme. In the last 60 years, Korea went from being one of the poorest countries to one of the richest, all under careful planning by the government that engaged in aggressive economic planning. Having experienced this, few Koreans are doctrinaires about laissez-faire economy in the domestic sphere. For just about any issue, Koreans expect the government to take an active lead in addressing the problem. https://askakorean.blogspot.com.br/2017/04/korean-politics-viewers-guide-i-lay-of.html",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494454146 124994532,125021664,2017-05-10 22:09:16,">>125021137 >These centuries of industrial slaughter and destruction PFFFFFFFFFF Tell me about the great slaughter of the 19th century then you fucking retard. When the middle class was literally fucking created out of the massive growth of wealth. When poverty declined by 3% per fucking year When america went from a fucking backwater to the strongest economic nation on the planet in 100 years flat. Yeah, what a fucking horrorshow. But please, tell me how capitalism supports the jew when every fucking non-state interfered capitalist system has been completely and utterly controlled by non-jewish whites who are more industrious and creative. >>125021335 >post a link about how fucking /new/ went down a fucking decade ago yeah that makes sense, i'll just post a link from the fucking 4chan times, here let me go get one https://www.4chantimes.org/fuckoffweknowyou'rejustregurgitatingshityou'veheardaroundhereyoufuckingleftypolshillgobacktoyourshithole",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454156 124994532,125021731,2017-05-10 22:09:50,">>125020620 You can say no through your action, not just through your words. Don't go in the land if you don't want to consent.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494454190 124994532,125021797,2017-05-10 22:10:30,">>125021477 >just say it didn't happen that will make it go away You really are a wretched little fucking communist shitstain. >>125021514 You cannot just ""Claim"" land, that is not how anything fucking works you retard. Look up the homestead principle for fuck sake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454230 124994532,125021805,2017-05-10 22:10:36,">>125021351 So compete with them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454236 124994532,125021888,2017-05-10 22:11:18,"Wouldn't it be more efficient to physically remove any person who advocates force against you? Why not give them the morals they give you? If they refuse to leave you alone, why should they exist?",,Anonymous,ancapthinking.png,28cLQpYxKTNPNOr26GXcew==,US,,1494454278 124994532,125021967,2017-05-10 22:11:52,">>125021243 Woah, se acalma aí, meu chapa. I could say the same things about you.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494454312 124994532,125021981,2017-05-10 22:11:58,">>125000550 Lot's of meme potential with him",,Anonymous,1494468564903.jpg,3lm/lEv54I7lZjFPysA/gA==,US,,1494454318 124994532,125022169,2017-05-10 22:13:34,">>125021664 >What are the Boer wars, colonialism, and the American civil war all of which were the seeds to the destruction in the 20th century Found a literal like >America stronk America is a country for niggers >How does privatization lead to Jewry Who do you think invested in the industrial revolution? Where do you think Marx came from topkek. >He mad Fucking kill yourself newfag, you're a literal kike loving faggot and you need to be hanged for defending crimes against humanity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454414 124994532,125022218,2017-05-10 22:14:00,">>125021797 If I mix my work with the property, why do I get to keep it? If I spill a bottle of cola into the ocean, I don't gain the ocean, I loose my cola. Just fucking with you now, but that's something to think.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494454440 124994532,125022231,2017-05-10 22:14:03,">>125020597 >Not in the contemporary sense of the ideology. I have never heard a Libertarian aside from on pol criticize the right to organize. I fail to see how contemporary libertarians oppose labor rights. >Lower prices of goods to an extent, but high social costs due to negative externalities not factored into the employer's calculation of the value of the employee's work. I am aware of the externalities, but a business lowers prices so that their products can be sold. If the largest group in society fails to be able to afford consumer goods, business suffers. Which is why businesses will look to cut costs in the first place. I was simply pointing out that when labor costs are lower, the stereotypical man holding money bags isn't keeping it all in a cartoonish vault which is the general perception people have. >Make people desperate enough and remove all restrictions on corporations from colluding and forming monopolies and this will no longer be the case. Without barriers to entry, monopolies are not secure in their position as monopolies. Additionally Wal-Mart does not provide raw sewage treatment, Wal-Mart does not own high class restaurants, and it does not handle waste management. >Walmart isn't America's #1 employer because it offers such high value positions compared to everyone else, it's just because they flush out smaller businesses in the area with their low prices and people need to work in order to eat. Wal-Mart is the largest employer because it employs foreigners in factories. Half of their workforce isn't in America, also take HP or IBM for example which do offer fairly high quality jobs. Or Kroger whose workers are mostly unionized. Costco company is known for paying its workers well and is doing better than Wal-Mart. Wal-Marts tactics backfired on them in a way as they relied somewhat on these small businesses for business themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454443 124994532,125022232,2017-05-10 22:14:03,">>125021797 You didn't make a single argument sperglord and you still haven't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454443 124994532,125022245,2017-05-10 22:14:07,">>125021888 >speech is tantamount to action >this is actually what communists unironically believe",,Anonymous,datalaughing.gif,/2HlgiOk3f8ttYmEo9jDyA==,US,,1494454447 124994532,125022254,2017-05-10 22:14:12,">>125021731 Owning land is between me and the previous owner. How the fuck does the state come into play? What the fuck does the state have to do with me buying land? Just because a ton of fucks now have a ""state"" and extort money from me does not mean I consent. A monkey like you tries to rob you at gunpoint: Hey you weren't robbed, you could just not give him the money!! SOPA DE MACACO UMA DELICIA",,^~,,,PT,,1494454452 124994532,125022277,2017-05-10 22:14:24,">>125013401 >being a collectivist fascism requires such fucking mental gymnastics to justify in the face of history you people make ""it's not real communism"" look tame. Even worse, retards in your group make the claim that the Greek and roman ideals of empire were anything close to fascist when they were at their prime. Not saying they were libertarian, but they sure as hell were not ""fascist"". Every fascist state dissolves into the upper class aristocracy becoming more incompetent, and more degenerate. Every. Fucking. Time. The military class who got their because of their intellect and strategy give birth to kids, which would be fine if everything was genetic but genes don't mean shit if your parents can't raise you right. Of course, the typical fascist answer to this is ""if the ruling class become a hereditary aristocracy, just supplant them with a new military class!"" And this happens how often? I'll fucking tell you how often, too fucking frequently, and it destabilizes your state. Either you have a corrupt rotting and degenerate aristocracy, or you have a permanent warring state, which leads to a feudalistic society at best and the degeneration of the state into a tribalistic mess like African countries at worst.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454464 124994532,125022297,2017-05-10 22:14:33,">>125021664 America had the GI bill, a boom in physics research, the liberal Marshall Plan foreign policy, and the highest taxes we've ever had in the 20th century. ""Muh free market capitalism"" had little to nothing to do with the immense wealth the middle class once had access to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454473 124994532,125022319,2017-05-10 22:14:50,">>125020636 He rambles on about the simplest concept. I like the descriptiveness of it, but holy shit. 3 pages about ""teach a man to fish, he'll never beg again"" is a little over kill.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454490 124994532,125022320,2017-05-10 22:14:49,">>125021731 I own you now because I say so. You are my property. You consent because you exist. Are you seriously going to advocate that system of ethics faggot?",,Anonymous,ethicsisarelationship.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,US,,1494454489 124994532,125022471,2017-05-10 22:16:13,">>125022277 No I unironically want to bring back an Aristocracy, fascism is simply the fastest mode to get back on track from the liberal degeneracy caused by the Enlightenment. >Degeneration Never has never will",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454573 124994532,125022494,2017-05-10 22:16:22,">>125014834 This, democracy is the first step of collectivist logic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454582 124994532,125022497,2017-05-10 22:16:22,">>125021888 TRIPS OF TRUTH An individual who wishes or promotes using violence against another individual is purporting to say with his actions that the individual has no right to self ownership, and as he himself is an individual he is thereby consenting to all violent action. >>125022169 >Capitalism is bad >prove it >provides examples of statism Wow good one >america is a country for niggers I know, that's why you're here. >Who do you think invested in the industrial revolution american investors. Want to prove otherwise? Show me some fucking stock slips from the 1800's, faggot. >>125022218 >Why do I get to keep it because you are creating something with your work, spilling something into the ocean is not creating something, it is merely spilling something into something else. That's just using a linguistic similarity to try to justify something that doesn't really equate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454582 124994532,125022600,2017-05-10 22:17:10,">>125022254 >How the fuck does the state come into play? Through the contract made with the original owner, which may include a clause demanding him to require the buyer of the land to conset to the same contract he made with the state. Be more creative with your contracts, camarada.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494454630 124994532,125022627,2017-05-10 22:17:27,">>125022497 >Muh not true capitalism Topkek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454647 124994532,125022688,2017-05-10 22:17:56,">>125022232 only made about a dozen you fucking retard. >>125022245 If you say with speech that you consent to being murdered, you consent to being murdered. How is that any different from saying ""People have no right to self ownership""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454676 124994532,125022707,2017-05-10 22:18:05,">>125022497 >american investors. Who the fuck do you think made up the banking class of Europe and the US holy shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454685 124994532,125022723,2017-05-10 22:18:17,">>125022245 Speech is an action. Argumentation is where moral systems are presented. Should I defend myself when you point the gun at me or when you tell me it's moral to kill me? Don't be an evil fucker.",,Anonymous,timeforarguments.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,US,,1494454697 124994532,125022754,2017-05-10 22:18:37,">>125022627 >bananas suck >prove it >provides examples of applies >those are apples man >muh not true bananas",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454717 124994532,125022783,2017-05-10 22:18:48,">>125022297 >america had all these things Yeah it's just a coincidence that the wealth of america is dying and started dying right after all that shit went into effect.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454728 124994532,125022811,2017-05-10 22:19:03,">>125022688 None of hose are arguments hose are called >Ad homs >Sperging >I don't even... >Stirner posting >And autism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454743 124994532,125022817,2017-05-10 22:19:09,">>125021351 >If you need to work for someone or otherwise face poverty, homelessness, and starvation how is that not forceful? Because having to work to avoid poverty, homelessness, and starvation is a fact of life no matter the economic system. If I'm living on an island by myself, I have to work to keep a roof over my head and food in my belly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454749 124994532,125022830,2017-05-10 22:19:18,">>125015889 >putting the jews in Morocco it's like you want their engineered disease to kill everyone else",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494454758 124994532,125022837,2017-05-10 22:19:19,">>125022600 >which may include BUT IT NEVER DOES! AND THE PREVIOUS OWNER COULD SAY NO THEREFORE IT'S AN INVALID CONTRACT WITH THE STATE YA FOOKIN MONKEY",,^~,,,PT,,1494454759 125023091,125023091,2017-05-10 22:21:30,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg [Embed]",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,^~,lrg-op.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,PT,,1494454890 125023091,125023190,2017-05-10 22:22:25,,,^~,hoppe-feelgood.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,PT,,1494454945 125023091,125023852,2017-05-10 22:28:27,"What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes Democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A",,^~,1490460007655.png,wzLdLEqnymrgdG9vgtX76A==,PT,,1494455307 125023091,125023922,2017-05-10 22:29:04,"Drop It Like It’s Hoppe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I need a Pinochet! – Music Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe’s Kitchen – How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",,^~,1488735100127.jpg,ylHG+ULWWY4mKcM4OFjbgA==,PT,,1494455344 125122209,125122209,2017-05-11 17:02:40,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg [Embed]",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1490829201743.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,CA,,1494522160 125122209,125122261,2017-05-11 17:03:09,first for helicopters,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494522189 125122209,125122444,2017-05-11 17:04:39,"If any South Florida Anons would be interested in starting an Anti-Com Chapter, it may be a necessity in the future.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494522279 125122209,125123058,2017-05-11 17:10:05,"I FUCKING LOVE CAPITALISM, ANYONE WHO DOESN'T IS A LAZY NIGGER. PROVE ME WRONG.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1494522605 125122209,125123675,2017-05-11 17:15:36,,,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1494522936 125122209,125125072,2017-05-11 17:26:54,where you fags at?,,Anonymous,snek (20).png,f3CVF7R7h6uAaprf2ry5rw==,US,,1494523614 125122209,125125389,2017-05-11 17:29:43,,,Anonymous,bwbtr.png,AqlFw3cPJD238ahYlAe/0g==,US,,1494523783 125122209,125125484,2017-05-11 17:30:34,">>125122209 My favorite thread",,Anonymous,image.jpg,mDLVMruDkiHX6wYfovzmfA==,FR,,1494523834 125122209,125125922,2017-05-11 17:34:30,>>125122209,,Anonymous,IMG_1496.jpg,m6phovnn6N/HrVmLCImjMA==,GB,,1494524070 125122209,125125984,2017-05-11 17:35:00,">>125125484 the only proper compass result.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494524100 125122209,125126135,2017-05-11 17:36:23,">>125125389 kek. Great pic. This shitty ""muh roads"" argument comes up so much that I don't even bother providing a serious answer",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494524183 125122209,125126263,2017-05-11 17:37:24,,,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,aSca+QoFg+3GmH5FDojmDw==,US,,1494524244 125122209,125126341,2017-05-11 17:38:04,,,Anonymous,actuality.png,Cwh2CA9LAZC6AGnIrV9zZQ==,US,,1494524284 125122209,125126431,2017-05-11 17:38:53,# fUCK CAPitaLISM mAN,,Anonymous,communist.png,lYfEoqJp89fQZxs2iMCDBw==,US,,1494524333 125122209,125126521,2017-05-11 17:39:41,">>125122209 The Radicalism displayed by some libertarians is pathetic. You really think fascism is the way to go? a big autocratic government that controls everything? True libertarians should want to forge a radically new path, not rely of fascism as a new state daddy. ALL FASCISTS WANT A DADDY GOVERNMENT.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494524381 125122209,125126529,2017-05-11 17:39:44,,,Anonymous,commie-cuckery.png,zKox+yIUICAF9WQWsWGOOg==,US,,1494524384 125122209,125126565,2017-05-11 17:40:02,Are traps welcomed in a Libertarian society?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494524402 125122209,125126566,2017-05-11 17:40:02,,,Anonymous,communism.png,WrEAmAPOW6D/BqVPVhg+sg==,US,,1494524402 125122209,125126588,2017-05-11 17:40:12,Austrian austrian reporting in,,Anonymous,,,AT,,1494524412 125122209,125126675,2017-05-11 17:40:54,">>125126565 not in my libertarian society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494524454 125122209,125126709,2017-05-11 17:41:07,,,Anonymous,faggot.png,D9pvHWYfQ25DZ6RfK9S6dA==,US,,1494524467 125122209,125126767,2017-05-11 17:41:33,">>125126565 At their own trap-district, yes.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1494524493 125122209,125126787,2017-05-11 17:41:40,">white nationalists are right wing meme >national SOCIALISM",,Anonymous,marxist.jpg,SQs/5TnPW0FQk6F5zwTjJQ==,US,,1494524500 125122209,125127006,2017-05-11 17:43:28,Fuck yeah Capitalism,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494524608 125122209,125127031,2017-05-11 17:43:44,,,Anonymous,sanfranbitch.png,rWw9zJSObhWbEXracjTBNQ==,US,,1494524624 125122209,125127072,2017-05-11 17:44:04,">>125126787 Communism and Fascism are two sides to the same international jewish coin. >>125126588 based. austrian austrian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494524644 125122209,125127297,2017-05-11 17:45:56,,,Anonymous,moustachioed-communist-dictators.png,9qLifIOaoQ2xUqf4q/CoTg==,US,,1494524756 125122209,125127368,2017-05-11 17:46:34,">>125126709 Libertarian socialism isn't an oxymoron if you define libertarianism differently",,Anonymous,C31OYEBUYAAGsn3.jpg,6Verxgh2RRRypuUVqsCAyA==,CA,,1494524794 125122209,125127387,2017-05-11 17:46:45,">>125126709 >legit autist >can't make functional arguments against LLA When he makes a 40 minutes deconstruction for his bullshit apart saying ""he's mean ;( "" >raised by a single mom He will very surely take control of a The means of production",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494524805 125122209,125127534,2017-05-11 17:47:55,">>125126675 This violates their NAP though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494524875 125122209,125127575,2017-05-11 17:48:15,">>125122209 Your ideology is a meme. Read this and educate yourselves. https://libcom.org/files/Sheppard-Inefficiancy-read.pdf",,Anonymous,capitalism-requires-big-government.jpg,tMUOc2x6I7emQdF0vbpUGw==,US,,1494524895 125122209,125127601,2017-05-11 17:48:31,">>125126529 Last line lel",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1494524911 125122209,125127671,2017-05-11 17:49:04,"Knock knock knockin' on Europe's door... with a side of Arabians.",,Anonymous,notREALsocialism.png,joPHgA3giVaHpOAdYMVEQA==,US,,1494524944 125122209,125127766,2017-05-11 17:49:58,">>125127534 Don't be a fag, no one has a right to live in my privately owned community.",,Anonymous,1487037765142.jpg,dh/hSQORwZLSwjYerE1deQ==,US,,1494524998 125122209,125127859,2017-05-11 17:50:47,,,Anonymous,pissed-off-leftist.png,PeS2K/3+5oKxGPssM1cJ5Q==,US,,1494525047 125122209,125127976,2017-05-11 17:51:38,">>125127534 >what is extreme discrimination and ostracization >what are private borders Traps are pathetic vermin",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494525098 125122209,125128067,2017-05-11 17:52:26,">>125127575 >capitalism can't exist without a sate because I said so. wow, thatnks for woking me up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494525146 125122209,125128192,2017-05-11 17:53:21,">>125122209 When are we moving to NH?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494525201 125122209,125128239,2017-05-11 17:53:39,,,Anonymous,the-political-compass.png,aFy4RGGGhPuOUGDpJehy3w==,US,,1494525219 125122209,125128286,2017-05-11 17:54:03,>I'm too lazy to pay taxes,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494525243 125122209,125128352,2017-05-11 17:54:36,">>125128286 >35% of your income stolen from you for stuff you dont even get to choose",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494525276 125122209,125128525,2017-05-11 17:55:53,">>125128286 >>125128192 No can do pal. innawoods deep south for me. cops better not even try and fuck with my moonshine still.",,Anonymous,1490140529536.jpg,aThGpkXG8xi+q76M+EbJ8A==,US,,1494525353 125122209,125128583,2017-05-11 17:56:19,">>125128286 lol i forgot to respond, you're like, a faggot or somthing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494525379 125122209,125128738,2017-05-11 17:57:28,">>125128286 >too lazy to get robbed lolwat",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494525448 125122209,125129283,2017-05-11 18:01:26,">>125128286 >I'm lazy if I don't want to be robbed lol wut",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494525686 125122209,125129383,2017-05-11 18:02:10,">>125127387 >>125127368 LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM EXPLAINED Communists can exist in a Libertarian system but Libertarians cannot exist in a Communist system Under Libertarian Federal Law: >A group/person can buy property >They can have other live on property and charge ""tax"" >Can use taxes to create Communist Order (schools, hospitals, industry) on private property >Can pass Communist ""by-laws"" as long as Laws don't conflict with Libertarian Federal Laws And unlike Nation Communism, in Libertarian Communism, the ppl are free to come or go from said Commune voluntarily One more reason for the left to vote right.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494525730 125122209,125129394,2017-05-11 18:02:21,">>125127072 You're fucking kidding me right? Capitalism is just usury-financed mercantilism. That's why it's always coupled with (((democracy))), aka plutocracy. It's Jewry incarnate. National socialism is nothing more than an industrial economy working for nation/race instead of lining the pockets of Jews. There is nothing the Jews fear more than an uncucked white society that can sustain its own people, with an advanced economy free of the tyranny of international finance. If Germany had won WWII, the continent of Europe would be 100% white, the Jews would have no political influence, and we wouldn't have a plague of shitskins and faggotry wrecking western countries.",,Anonymous,IMG_0147.jpg,5Dp2Kez110kLFuvAxkSiJg==,US,,1494525741 125122209,125129534,2017-05-11 18:03:28,,,Anonymous,typical sjw crap.png,JmRCz3xIZ/Ha1Aafx1IXNg==,US,,1494525808 125122209,125129811,2017-05-11 18:05:33,">>125128286 >getting cucked by the state willingly",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494525933 125122209,125129823,2017-05-11 18:05:39,">>125128352 >>125128525 >>125128583 >>125128738 >>125129283 lol you guys are like tumblrites, kill yourselves",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494525939 125122209,125129965,2017-05-11 18:06:37,whats ancap toads saying,,Anonymous,1494250095448.png,7uZVLVAoT1CnIWp59UXlmQ==,US,,1494525997 125122209,125130072,2017-05-11 18:07:30,">>125129394 Hook line and sinker, glad you stopped by. sorry I was just breaking your balls.",,Anonymous,1486861054722.png,OuDRtlyA/LdtiaK7/qtqiw==,US,,1494526050 125122209,125130260,2017-05-11 18:08:59,">>125129823 >""you don't robbery against yourself? You must be a tumblrite man"" And you're a brainwashed cuck who supports having the state shove its cock up your ass. Neck yourself, friendo",,Anonymous,1494492653291.gif,sPA+FXAlJTzD7Vg6ckPwDQ==,CA,,1494526139 125122209,125130302,2017-05-11 18:09:17,">>125129394 You realize Jews are in positions of power because they have the highest average IQ right? It's not a fucking conspiracy dumbass. If anything you should be blaming the Saudis or the socialists or the government.",,Anonymous,file.png,m7I+RPxAGuZCp6PYDj0vRQ==,US,,1494526157 125122209,125130303,2017-05-11 18:09:19,">>125129394 by the way democacy and private property are incompatible. kikes will always vote to take what belongs to us hard-working goys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494526159 125122209,125130346,2017-05-11 18:09:42,">>125129394 Capitalism doesn't mean you have to let Jews onto your property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494526182 125122209,125130362,2017-05-11 18:09:48,>>125129965,,Anonymous,ancap-andy3.jpg,OPu2hZy/cSzYSyUkGXIHXA==,CA,,1494526188 125122209,125130410,2017-05-11 18:10:10,">>125129823 you know its true but all your ideology rests on it so you have dissonance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494526210 125122209,125130533,2017-05-11 18:11:06,">>125130302 They weren't in positions of power before the ""holohoax"" happened and gave them some sort of moral high ground of victimization to use as a club against anyone who questioned them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494526266 125122209,125130998,2017-05-11 18:14:38,">>125130260 literally a non argument, pay taxes you lazy nigger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494526478 125122209,125131024,2017-05-11 18:14:54,">>125126521 The fascists don't understand that anarcho-capitalism allows for the destruction of all communists and Jews and anyone else who you don't want on your property. ""Libertarians"" are open borders, while ancaps are the most pro-borders people there is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494526494 125122209,125131059,2017-05-11 18:15:12,">>125130362 When someone first proposed ancap andy i thought it was gay, but i quickly learned he's a pretty cool guy.",,Anonymous,AncapAndy.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,US,,1494526512 125122209,125131139,2017-05-11 18:15:45,">>125129394 >capitalism >always coupled with (((democracy))) that's where you're wrong, friend",,Anonymous,1474259407240.png,2Dw2NN5vk6Yrzy9LSpk+Nw==,CA,,1494526545 125122209,125131328,2017-05-11 18:17:09,">>125130362 This one's the best tho.",,Anonymous,ancap_andy_commies_matt_furie.png,NN7furIBj4aVxZ0usDFpFQ==,US,,1494526629 125122209,125131373,2017-05-11 18:17:37,">>125130998 >""pay muh nanny state you lazy nigger! It's not robbery at all even though the state will throw you in jail for not giving up your hard-earned money to it!""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494526657 125122209,125131803,2017-05-11 18:21:22,Give me a quick rundown on National Capitalism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494526882 125122209,125132100,2017-05-11 18:23:51,">>125131803 It's Capitolism with Nationlist Protection Policies in place. It would effectively restrict how a national company can operate internationally and how trans-national companies can operate within said nation.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494527031 125122209,125132265,2017-05-11 18:25:13,">>125130533 >They weren't in positions of power before the ""holohoax"" Then why the ""Jews control The world"" conspiracy existed before ww2 ? Pic related",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ZZalqkKguDuLDhOn11BHSA==,FR,,1494527113 125122209,125132403,2017-05-11 18:26:17,">>125132100 How does this differ from the protectionism that the USA used to practice prior to WWII/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494527177 125122209,125132605,2017-05-11 18:27:53,">>125131373 literally no argument, kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494527273 125122209,125132691,2017-05-11 18:28:33,">>125132605 >literally a non argument, pay taxes you lazy nigger and this is an argument?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494527313 125122209,125132916,2017-05-11 18:30:11,">>125131803 I would think its a Market-Fascism like state.Military dictatorship. perhaps a few key nationalized industries fairly libertarian towards its citizens , pretty comfy. >>125132403",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494527411 125122209,125133055,2017-05-11 18:31:25,">>125130302 >not a conspiracy",,Anonymous,IMG_0118.png,Fp4WlROkOaeFFwaLB+TOyw==,US,,1494527485 125122209,125133141,2017-05-11 18:32:02,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvsEYmPKbF4,,Anonymous,1492000492580.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1494527522 125122209,125133240,2017-05-11 18:32:44,">>125126588 Lel",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494527564 125122209,125133362,2017-05-11 18:33:41,"redditors, kys fags",,Anonymous,1461089837933.jpg,LeevvA2BoItcxDR1Dytvkg==,HR,,1494527621 125122209,125133424,2017-05-11 18:34:09,">>125132403 You're refering to ""it"" as though its a clearly defined thing rather than a loosely defined set off principles a varying degree of policies reflecting those principles which differ depending on the nation, its ppl and its goals. If your alluding to WWII policies with the hopes of making them out to be nationalist, I agree.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494527649 125122209,125133481,2017-05-11 18:34:42,">>125133055 Jews are mostly a bunch of communists. thats not a conspiracy. thats the nature of kikes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494527682 125122209,125133758,2017-05-11 18:36:53,">>125126565 Not on my property you fucking degenerate. But you asking that means you don't know the ideology enough yet.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494527813 125122209,125133871,2017-05-11 18:37:49,">>125133424 If it's defined as a system of capitalism that places stiff tariffs on foreign goods in order to protect national companies and preserve a strong national base, it would seem that is what was practiced in the US prior to WWII.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494527869 125122209,125134369,2017-05-11 18:41:55,">>125133871 I agree. In theory I am all for unretrained trans-national capitalism. In practice that requires us to pretend that The Jews, Muslims & Chinese don't have plans So I'm all for protections.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494528115 125122209,125134548,2017-05-11 18:43:20,How does a libertarian logically justify joining the military?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494528200 125122209,125134764,2017-05-11 18:44:57,">>125134548 >How does a libertarian logically justify joining the military? Protip: You can't Protip: I can becuase I just say I'm defending western culture from muslims.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494528297 125122209,125134770,2017-05-11 18:45:00,">>125134548 By doing it voluntarily",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494528300 125122209,125134842,2017-05-11 18:45:31,">>125134548 If it's done on a voluntary basis then it's ok",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494528331 125122209,125135017,2017-05-11 18:47:00,">>125134548 There's a shit ton of libertarians in the military. We care about protecting our freedom and killing sand nigger terrorists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494528420 125122209,125135442,2017-05-11 18:50:19,"Can any of you professionals explain the political position of these gentlemans? [ Murray Rothbard, Mises, and Hayek ] Also, any book recomendations?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494528619 125122209,125135730,2017-05-11 18:52:30,">>125135442 They're all right-wing libertarians. Idk about Mises and Hayek, but Rothbard was a slef-proclaimed anarcho-capitalist. >Also, any book recomendations? http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494528750 125122209,125135852,2017-05-11 18:53:24,">>125122209 hey boys. i found this good old political compass meme saved, and i was thinking about who would fill it on each 3x3 if it was real people (politicians, personalities, philosophers, etc) instead of characters from fiction. who would you put there for each spot on the purple 3x3? i was thinking: gary - ? - ron alex jones (?) - ? - ? stirner (?) - ? - rothbard",,Anonymous,1484522190659.jpg,hcEgs+pxGEQcTQuj5hzV5A==,US,,1494528804 125122209,125135869,2017-05-11 18:53:31,">>125135442 >>125135730 Mises and Hayek were libertarians, but what kind exactly is what I'm unsure of",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494528811 125122209,125136286,2017-05-11 18:56:42,">>125135442 Murray rothbard is my nigga. Anti-state, race realism, capitalism, anti-egalitarianism, whats not to love? You could read economics but if you just want to get a feel of the guy i suggest reading his essays and articles >RACE! THAT MURRAY BOOK https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >BIG-GOVERNMENT LIBERTARIANS https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html",,Anonymous,Race.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,US,,1494529002 125122209,125136410,2017-05-11 18:57:49,">>125135442 http://propertyandfreedom.org/2012/11/hans-hermann-hoppe-the-hayek-myth-pfs-2012/",,Anonymous,1489496802525.jpg,UMDPFSnS46Dbo3Cbz6uAWg==,NL,,1494529069 125122209,125136851,2017-05-11 19:01:43,How my fellow goym doing today?,,Anonymous,hoppe check em.png,a0MepQNWpK+ksQ9fSimWYg==,PT,,1494529303 125122209,125136972,2017-05-11 19:02:49,">>125135852 fuck man hard to say, i'd put alex in the center, he's a little more right leaning i don't even think dat gary is worthy of purple square masterace. while were at it, heres a compass meme that i couldn't finish. very /lrg/ related.",,Anonymous,Compass.png,K9TjTN/OtCwLNhsUpSlETA==,US,,1494529369 125122209,125137135,2017-05-11 19:04:07,>>125126588,,Anonymous,257.png,VnxPKZ5HsbU+0wknEIlDDQ==,US,,1494529447 125122209,125137144,2017-05-11 19:04:12,AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170511-180100.png,Au9WrJPsQ0+aHTdl8qRF0A==,US,,1494529452 125122209,125137193,2017-05-11 19:04:33,">>125136851 doing pretty well my portuguese brother.",,Anonymous,1487517595986.png,OzgoRELPwbKylms0CnI8aA==,US,,1494529473 125122209,125137339,2017-05-11 19:05:43,,,Anonymous,Sketch (5).png,FFcJB+zOrT3hkXsCIUs+sQ==,CA,,1494529543 125122209,125137583,2017-05-11 19:07:59,">>125136851 feeling fine, portubro",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,CA,,1494529679 125122209,125137610,2017-05-11 19:08:14,">>125137193 Got my copy of Reactionary Liberty today + Rockwell's Against the State. Gonna start reading it tomorrow.",,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,PT,,1494529694 125122209,125137680,2017-05-11 19:08:52,">>125127575 wtf i hate freedom now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494529732 125122209,125137836,2017-05-11 19:10:07,This thread needs moar ancap andy,,Anonymous,1494462255756.jpg,Xh/IomfaDViVIBRsKE5C3A==,US,,1494529807 125122209,125137985,2017-05-11 19:11:15,"btw since I'm here and got no chores, I'll go ahead and start doing the image about the open borders issue.",,Anonymous,Erik_von_Kuehnelt-Leddihn.jpg,g9eN4ZjgGXZ++Dc00bERTA==,PT,,1494529875 125122209,125138013,2017-05-11 19:11:36,">>125127575 >>125137680 Why is the left so bad at memes? That's not a meme it's a story.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494529896 125122209,125138036,2017-05-11 19:11:47,">>125137610 Noice, let us know about reactionary liberty, its on my list.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494529907 125122209,125138105,2017-05-11 19:12:20,">>125127575 You mean corporatism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494529940 125122209,125138107,2017-05-11 19:12:20,,,Anonymous,2323232.png,WgtOR9jRb4blFTmClJrmmQ==,NL,,1494529940 125122209,125138124,2017-05-11 19:12:30,What is the font that /lrg/ uses? I'm talking about the Gothic-looking or whatever font we use in the OP images.,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494529950 125122209,125138126,2017-05-11 19:12:34,">>125137985 How are you going to adress it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494529954 125122209,125138292,2017-05-11 19:13:50,">>125138124 This one? http://www.dafont.com/old-englished-boots.font",,Anonymous,Official Badge.png,jeBzGyuN3uysRJGm5WLomg==,US,,1494530030 125122209,125138295,2017-05-11 19:13:49,Found this on my old phone,,Anonymous,2ac40d7784676b65b6604f6a4945c942c0e441378e0964f824a0e76ec2fb9640_1.jpg,dV7moU2iY7YdMYkC1pAuiQ==,BR,,1494530029 125122209,125138501,2017-05-11 19:15:42,">>125138295 I was looking at this image when i was trying to make this, I don't know shit about upper left fag mascots. >>125136972",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494530142 125122209,125138783,2017-05-11 19:18:08,">>125138126 I'll argue from the ancap perspective since minarchism does not provide a sound argument due to the existence of public property. I'll argue that given the voluntary and private property-based nature of an anarcho-capitalist society, libertarians who seek to advance liberty by opening borders to all would be counter productive since absolutely no foreigner has any right whatsoever to ""immigrate"" from one place to another. All migration is migration by consent. No one has a right to freely move around private property without the consent of the owner. And since open borders completely disregard this notion, any immigrant who sets foot in a country without being previously invited from a taxpaying resident and supported by him is an invader subject to expulsion. It's more complex than that, but this is the basic gestalt. I'll also throw in some Hoppe quotes and Rothbard quotes I can find on this. >>125138292 Yup, that's it. Thanks.",,Anonymous,hoppe masses.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,PT,,1494530288 125122209,125139412,2017-05-11 19:23:10,,,Anonymous,1494456329799.png,JifU61CKFzbZMnEstgzD5w==,SE,,1494530590 125122209,125139524,2017-05-11 19:24:10,">>125134548 libertarians =/= ancaps libertarians want a military exclusively for defence.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1494530650 125122209,125139860,2017-05-11 19:26:57,">>125138295 I miss Anarcho Primitivism on this one",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494530817 125122209,125140148,2017-05-11 19:29:25,">>125138783 Sounds good, The folk here on /pol/ might not give a shit but maybe confront the (((public property))) should be inclusive to all left libertarian idea, contrasted to the state running the (((public property))) as a responsible property owner as long as the state exists. its the main argument i've seen for open borders from the libertarians party. >libertarians want a military exclusively for defence. yeah ancaps too, we just want it to be privatized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494530965 125122209,125140166,2017-05-11 19:29:31,">>125139524 Well I dont know, imperialism opens up new markets where there were non before. There is certainly advantages yo having a more proactive military, because otherwise why have one? It works for the intrests of the government first and foremost. Owning a firearm or multiple for any citizen makes more sense than funding a professional defence force. Its more cost effective in terms of market liquidity and effective reach etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494530971 125122209,125140235,2017-05-11 19:30:05,,,Anonymous,1488050985002.png,7roAFrozQU/Giu26DOBAKg==,US,,1494531005 125122209,125140356,2017-05-11 19:30:56,">>125139860 >libertarians want a military exclusively for defence. yeah ancaps too, we just want it to be privatized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494531056 125122209,125140393,2017-05-11 19:31:12,">>125134548 If all the hospitals were public, and I wanted to be a doctor...would I need to change my profession for believing the private sector would do it better?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494531072 125122209,125140411,2017-05-11 19:31:19,">>125138783 Sounds good, The folk here on /pol/ might not give a shit but maybe confront the (((public property))) should be inclusive to all left libertarian idea, contrasted to the state running the (((public property))) as a responsible property owner as long as the state exists. its the main argument i've seen for open borders from the libertarians party.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494531079 125122209,125140453,2017-05-11 19:31:40,">>125140235 Now this guy fucking gets it. At the moment I belive libertarian policy will accomplish this, but it doesnt always work in the meta of policy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494531100 125122209,125140926,2017-05-11 19:35:43,>>125125389,,Anonymous,No_Roads.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1494531343 125122209,125141500,2017-05-11 19:40:55,">>125140926 If you own property, you biuld roads on it simply for access. As does a corporation when biulding centers for manufacturing products and services. When you have mergers of property and/or volentary contracts of cooperation on road usage, you tend to get a safe, well maintained, well connected private road. Granted this is more ideal than anything, and would take a relativley long time to be adopted as a widespread practice. I dont really think it will work. But private roads have some merit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494531655 125122209,125141595,2017-05-11 19:41:45,">>125122209 Bumping the thread just in case",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494531705 125122209,125141670,2017-05-11 19:42:21,">>125140926 current year, not driving the road truck",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,uGcbtK/rVmV7CI126O7hxw==,US,,1494531741 125122209,125142284,2017-05-11 19:46:29,>>125126263,,Anonymous,1494543536100.jpg,mdd51Fmezkzhhn2bpZwt8w==,US,,1494531989 125122209,125142333,2017-05-11 19:46:51,">>125126341 this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494532011 125122209,125142488,2017-05-11 19:48:13,BEGUM MONARGIST :DDD,,Anonymous,1471670922543.jpg,yXyoSASyenFpJCA4vSlIig==,US,,1494532093 125122209,125142610,2017-05-11 19:49:16,">>125141500 commie. NO ROADS.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494532156 125122209,125142876,2017-05-11 19:51:36,"What do you guys think of these policies: >All taxes voluntary >Citizens choose what their taxes pay for >All tax records made public >Instituting an EBD(Expected Break Date) on products, which is the average length it takes before it breaks (as a consumer protection against cheap goods) Everyone and all companies can choose to pay no taxes but that info will be publicly available so cheap citizen can be shamed and ostracized and cheap companies can be boycotted This could create competition for companies to pay MORE tax instead of the current system which incentivizes LESS tax And I feel more ppl would feel good about paying tax, and would voluntarily pay more if they could choose what it's being spent on This would make Community Activism so much easier because instead of forming a group and lobbying for more money for this or that, we would just need to get citizens to pledge some tax towards the cause Any systems that we lose because citizens refuse to pay for them are systems and services which by default SHOULD be done away with, since it isn't the will of the ppl to pay And if say the roads get bad one year, the next year citizens can step up decide to pay more or decide they're fine with shitty roads This would effectively turn The Government into nothing more than a middle man between the will of the people and instituting that will. That's what they ShOULD be now, in theory, but The Government has its own will, and it often conflicts with the ppl",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494532296 125122209,125143020,2017-05-11 19:52:52,">>125132691 make an actual argument about why taxes are bad >>125142284 is this what ancaps actually believe?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494532372 125122209,125143067,2017-05-11 19:53:13,I heard you guys have been using racial slurs. I will have you know that i don't tolerate racists and fascists to have a speaking platform in the libertarian party.,,Anonymous,jeffrey_tucker.jpg,kyCXU7+NM+E6OAA6X0+VPw==,US,,1494532393 125122209,125143387,2017-05-11 19:56:09,">>125142876 if you're in for a wall of text big enough to keep out the bad hombres then read this: http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494532569 125122209,125143637,2017-05-11 19:58:43,">>125143020 >make an actual argument about why taxes are bad Because taxation is involuntary, thus it is theft. Why can't you get this into your head? Oh right, because the state brainwashed you into thinking that taxation is necessary and that the state dindu nuffin. It's not a coincidence that the best economists are against taxes; society doesn't need them, and we'd be better off if they were gone. Stop being such a leftist",,Anonymous,Rothbard state.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,CA,,1494532723 125122209,125143689,2017-05-11 19:59:05,">>125143067 what does fascism have to do with being racist",,Anonymous,1474928886032.jpg,u4myFg4hhevxDLiS6/WU0g==,US,,1494532745 125122209,125143760,2017-05-11 19:59:52,">>125143020 >make an actual argument about why taxes are bad Taxes are bad on philosophical grounds because it is immoral to take a mans private property(which is an extension of himself, in the eyes of the law) away from him without his direct consent. In terms of consequences, taxes are not bad because they're used to pay for goods and service by The State. So the state can produce a positive end via an immoral means. But the ends do not justify the means, is the Libertarian argument. A positive outcome does not make the initial act moral in-of-itself.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494532792 125122209,125143761,2017-05-11 19:59:53,">>125143689 Keep your hatespeech off our campus.",,Anonymous,TuckerTime.jpg,ziP/Tie0c6zMSx3e9hg31Q==,US,,1494532793 125122209,125144185,2017-05-11 20:03:48,">>125143067 >>125143761 God I hate this guy so much.",,Anonymous,hoppe secessionism.png,oIrCczKEYERrjVyeunvHKg==,PT,,1494533028 125122209,125144623,2017-05-11 20:08:02,">>125128286 > t. a parasite kicking and screaming that the cattle are waking up",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494533282 125122209,125146458,2017-05-11 20:26:53,"Maybe we should donate Jeffery to the nazis, he has more purpose with them and can't hurt our movements from there.",,Anonymous,BasedJeffery.png,sOWLZhveSYiuRawT5JqQdA==,US,,1494534413 125122209,125147487,2017-05-11 20:36:40,,,Anonymous,Homosexuality.png,VAFdK1UziSMdinxMcF6iww==,US,,1494535000 125122209,125147730,2017-05-11 20:38:38,,,Anonymous,Homosexuality.png,9ZUyhvYzlgJnFzzUrmYlTA==,US,,1494535118 125122209,125148000,2017-05-11 20:41:05,">>125143637 >The best economists are against taxes TIL the best economists are only the ones you agree with >muh brainwashing >Muh leftists non arguments, go back to the_donald",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494535265 125122209,125148648,2017-05-11 20:47:06,">>125148000 >TIL >redirecting anyone else to reddit oh the ironing",,Anonymous,1492305763659.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,US,,1494535626 125122209,125148932,2017-05-11 20:49:32,">>125148648 another non argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494535772 125122209,125148983,2017-05-11 20:50:06,anyone got a recommended reading list for an-cap philosophy/politics?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494535806 125122209,125149058,2017-05-11 20:50:53,">>125148983 http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",,Anonymous,1490024875923s.jpg,f8Sex8jLtvmyKSZvvk+1ew==,US,,1494535853 125122209,125149090,2017-05-11 20:51:12,">>125149058 fugg I don't have the image.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494535872 125122209,125149240,2017-05-11 20:52:29,">>125148983 >>125149090 I gotchu senpai",,Anonymous,ancap studies.jpg,ldOsu6HIhkTO+Jm2lz8OJw==,IS,,1494535949 125122209,125149258,2017-05-11 20:52:37,">>125148983 >>125149058 >>125149090 gotchu senpai",,Anonymous,books.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1494535957 125122209,125149371,2017-05-11 20:53:36,">>125149258 This one should be bigger",,Anonymous,maybe larger version.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,IS,,1494536016 125122209,125149561,2017-05-11 20:55:25,">>125149371 but they're the same size my icelandic friend",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494536125 125122209,125149642,2017-05-11 20:56:13,">>125135852 Agree with those choices except for maybe (((G*ry))) like the other anon said. Maybe Rand for the square above where Rothbard would be, but I don't know for the others. Would also like to hear insight from some others.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494536173 125122209,125149787,2017-05-11 20:57:42,">>125149561 I was referring to the smaller one I posted b4 burgerBro",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1494536262 125122209,125149854,2017-05-11 20:58:25,">>125149561 >>125149787 Noticed just now I tagged yours instead",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1494536305 125122209,125149978,2017-05-11 20:59:37,">>125149787 oh my bad i misunderstood the context. I apologize",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494536377 125122209,125150434,2017-05-11 21:03:59,"so cunts, what do you do with your taxes? since you HAVE to pay them?",,Anonymous,bigbird.jpg,kyzvyI8AHX0LRonxjBtSKg==,US,,1494536639 125122209,125150492,2017-05-11 21:04:34,market wont correct itself,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494536674 125122209,125150875,2017-05-11 21:08:09,">>125136972 Who's the yellow and blue one?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494536889 125122209,125151018,2017-05-11 21:09:27,"Would intellectual property rights exist in an anarcho capitalist society and if so, how would they work?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494536967 125122209,125151064,2017-05-11 21:09:47,">>125150434 we pay them of course, that's precisely the problem. we are forced to pay them, we have no choice or else face violence by the state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494536987 125122209,125151099,2017-05-11 21:10:04,">>125150875 just from where it's supposed to be on the compass i think it's minarchy",,Anonymous,1485752256047.jpg,Jv0aETa4srwJO0eEODGZPQ==,US,,1494537004 125122209,125151216,2017-05-11 21:11:07,"Are libertarians nationalist? My uncle is a general, he is 86 and was friend of Pinochet, he was very nationalist, are american libertarians natonalist? I am an ignorant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1494537067 125122209,125151365,2017-05-11 21:12:32,">>125150875 Minarchy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494537152 125122209,125151626,2017-05-11 21:14:43,">>125129383 Ron Paul has even talked about this. Though he called it Socialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494537283 125122209,125151692,2017-05-11 21:15:17,">>125151216 Yeah I lean pretty heavy on the nationalist side. Unlike euro-nationalism I feel the traditions and culture of my nation are about challenging power, and generally pro-liberty.",,Anonymous,1486241976856.png,ZJ75TafKmMv8w6kFW4wbHA==,US,,1494537317 125122209,125152060,2017-05-11 21:18:50,">>125151216 they can be, they don't have to be. a lot are because a lot of the values the founding fathers instilled in the nation generally go along with what >>125151692 said, and as such america is inherently an individualist state, which aligns itself with the lib right naturally.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494537530 125122209,125152344,2017-05-11 21:21:46,">>125151216 absolutely my friend, you bear a proud heritage. While it may not exactly be nationalist in the sense of one unified state, anarcho-capitalism is certainly compatible with a strong respect for values and traditions, just through private grounds and of course a healthy enthusiasm to throw communists off helicopters. It is in many ways a kind of voluntary nationalism, if you will, in freedom to exercise high standards of excellence and uphold moral obligations while administering punishment to degenerates (within property)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494537706 125122209,125152428,2017-05-11 21:22:30,">>125151692 Why many people here like Pinochet? Reporte: what is your opinion about that two bodies had been buried in one grave Pinochet: ""what good economy"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aXznEj4MOs Victims of Pinochet were not like americans antifas, they were poor as fuck workers and students.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1494537750 125122209,125152456,2017-05-11 21:22:52,">>125151216 A lot of right Libertarians like the Idea of Nationalism but wish to achieve it through social-darwinism by removing the welfare state, affirmative action laws and anti-discrimination laws",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1494537772 125122209,125152532,2017-05-11 21:23:32,">>125138107 Hoppe's makes sense, lol, he's just describing what society is now really, but I just think it's funny that somehow his argument is supposed to justify a monarchy. I'll admit I don't know much of his work, but it would be an interesting exercise to try and connect his argument of inherent elitism in which people become skilled, experienced, or knowledgeable of firms/industry/government, to justify a ""monarchy"" at the very most, I'm predicting he's illustrating some wonderful neo-feudalist order of a capitalist monarchy (to rule over the world with, of course). Ill be sure to check him out.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494537812 125122209,125152619,2017-05-11 21:24:25,">>125130302 Jews infiltrated the West through anti-usury laws backed by the European states and church.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494537865 125122209,125153152,2017-05-11 21:29:51,">>125152456 This Also I don't want to live in a police state ala under a dictatorship like Pinoche Chile.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494538191 125122209,125153251,2017-05-11 21:30:53,">>125152428 you must understand that pinochet, while respectful in intent, remains largely a meme for his tendency to evict the red menace from flying machines. Politically speaking as a philosophy, pinochet is yes, admittedly a nationalist through the means of a state, against the principles of the NAP he is more ceremonial figure head, an icon, rather than prophet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494538253 125122209,125153380,2017-05-11 21:32:11,">>125152532 >but I just think it's funny that somehow his argument is supposed to justify a monarchy. He simply describes how a monarchy is preferable to a democracy >I'm predicting he's illustrating some wonderful neo-feudalist order of a capitalist monarchy Not at all. He is not a supporter of feudalism nor is he a supporter of monarchy",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494538331 125122209,125153500,2017-05-11 21:33:30,">>125152428 how were the marxists of chile different? please explain.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494538410 125122209,125153525,2017-05-11 21:33:40,>>125125389,,Anonymous,ISIS-roads.jpg,mDHfwBqC6fOaL9QdPU/ilg==,US,,1494538420 125122209,125153665,2017-05-11 21:35:11,"I reccomend this movie about Chile to understand the pinochet coup. Our society was and still is very dividided in social classes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N_XKFA1RLg",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1494538511 125122209,125153767,2017-05-11 21:36:03,">>125152456 this",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494538563 125122209,125153850,2017-05-11 21:36:41,Goldpill me on the Federal Reserve. My macroeconomics teacher says we need the fed in order to curb inflation and keep unemployment in check. Is he right or wrong?,,Anonymous,fed.jpg,xyMJDmJjosrTvFlAgLFrcA==,US,,1494538601 125122209,125153872,2017-05-11 21:36:58,">>125122209 >Libertarian When you want more niggers, because freedom.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494538618 125122209,125153956,2017-05-11 21:37:53,">>125153872 I want more niggers to be my property if thats what you mean.",,Anonymous,AntiEgalitarian.png,V1y9uZd3xbO7JUzlF8YhNQ==,US,,1494538673 125122209,125154084,2017-05-11 21:39:01,">>125152428 The ""marxist"" from Chile were just poor and ignorant people that wanted to live better. Allende maybe was not the best president, but the people elected him.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1494538741 125122209,125154145,2017-05-11 21:39:34,">>125153850 Idk. Ask Ron Paul https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8hdgVA75hk",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494538774 125122209,125154160,2017-05-11 21:39:46,"Reading this right now. Learning how Trump's protectionism could hurt Americans' standard of living pretty badly. Didn't know free trade and restricted immigration actually reinforce each other. >""As long as Mexican products-the products of a low-wage area-can freely enter a high-wage area as the United States, the incentive for Mexican people to move to the United States is reduced.""",,Anonymous,71WUVBWE.jpg,iXdsvNQ/bfr1mfS1xFn1PQ==,US,,1494538786 125122209,125154323,2017-05-11 21:41:18,">>125153500 Allende maybe was not the best president, but the people elected him. Pinochet believed that there was a war in Chile against marxism, he was crazy. The ""marxist"" from Chile were just poor and ignorant people with no rights and representation that wanted to live better. I dont like Allende but i must say the truth. Sorry my english is bad",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1494538878 125122209,125154388,2017-05-11 21:41:51,">>125153872 A Libertarian society won't give welfare checks to Tyrone and his fifteen kids. If he can't provide... They starve",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1494538911 125122209,125154403,2017-05-11 21:42:02,">>125154084 >The ""marxist"" from Chile were just poor and ignorant people that wanted to live better. so antifa are not poor, ignorant, and want to live better?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494538922 125122209,125154436,2017-05-11 21:42:20,">>125153956 You want no government, therefore no borders and no laws. Property is a definition of government. You really that stupid that you think that other people know what your property definition is in your head or respect your mouth definition? Government is the mediator and because you reduced the government and privatized government you have migrants and they will control you, you will be their property, since you sold everything.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494538940 125122209,125154624,2017-05-11 21:44:07,">>125154388 Don't you have a problem niggers fucking your women? What welfare? Refugees have no welfare, your migrants have welfare, because freedom, everybody is allowed into country to do business. If i sit in refugee center that means i am broke, those tents hardly even got heating.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494539047 125122209,125154657,2017-05-11 21:44:25,">>125154436 >No, let me tell you what you want. You want open borders. If you don't wanna take my word when I tell you my opinions then why are you even talking to me? Go fuck yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494539065 125122209,125154781,2017-05-11 21:45:39,">>125154624 >your migrants have welfare, because freedom. Gibsmedats are not freedom faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494539139 125122209,125154812,2017-05-11 21:45:52,,,Anonymous,1475789708060.jpg,I8ZYcUi8MxcqnaggXwsH/A==,MX,,1494539152 125122209,125154826,2017-05-11 21:45:59,">>125154084 if the people choose to self-destruct the country out of ignorance, would you allow such a decision to be made, even and especially as it affects your own life as well? that is the thing with democracy: if 70% vote to self-destruct, the 30% must likewise be forced to self-destruct with it for it had been democracy. bah. there is a quote here about democracy somewhere from Hans-Hermann Hoppe's book Democracy: The God That Failed I think. I do not seem to have it with me, but know that democracy thrives on the poor and ignorant to be elected, paired with special interest group to stay in power. those who know how to run things best are often ignored and vilified in democracy unless they manipulate the public shamelessly into believing things will be better if they just elect them, not knowing the full consequences of marxism and socialism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494539159 125122209,125155098,2017-05-11 21:48:24,">>125154657 >nobody pays tax, nobody pays border patrol What's so hard to understand dumbass? Government = country = system of laws. If you have no laws, you have no government, you have no property or you have property any moron can try to steal and then morons who will form Mad Max government will rape your ass and then again you will have government, just a very shitty one. You are on a way there with your illegals studying with libertarian money on hand logic and some just buy diploma and operate on breasts to fuck them up, nowhere to complain, because illegal.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494539304 125122209,125155134,2017-05-11 21:48:41,">>125154323 Best argument against democracy The prayers of the righteous were heard by god for he sent Pinochet his prophet to deliver you from evil. Had he not you would be the same as Venezuela just earlier since no oil.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1494539321 125122209,125155400,2017-05-11 21:51:19,">>125122209 Welcome To Ancapistan is the best argument for liberty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36z0wSnH9ac",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494539479 125122209,125155459,2017-05-11 21:51:48,">>125154781 Freedom is where you have 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chip producers and each of them tries to make own brand that fits only their brand, so they make money, at end you all jerking your balls all day long, since nothing fits and will never fit, since you ain't got an agreement that is supervised by government, you got hay agreement that you can wipe your ass with it.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494539508 125122209,125155594,2017-05-11 21:53:15,">>125155098 lol faggot, anarcho-capitalism is not lawlessness. you're thinking about some stirnerfags or somthing thats not us. We want PRIVATE LAW. >>125155459 >Freedom is where you have 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chip producers do you really believe the market can support that many producers of the same product?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494539595 125122209,125155969,2017-05-11 21:56:44,">>125155594 No government, no law. When you play in kindergarten and make rules and build castles, that only works for your friends, i come new day and step on your castle and don't know what laws you made up. Government is nothing else than laws everybody agrees with. Many types of government exist how you come to that agreement. In democracy you don't participate in law creation, so you kind of cocky thinking you can create laws, politicians create all your laws. During Socialism people participate in creation of laws and they also learn them in school.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494539804 125122209,125156109,2017-05-11 21:58:14,">>125155098 >nobody pays border patrol this border patrol is purchased privately. in much the same way as people act rational and peacefully with government around, the essence of people cannot be changed just by the removal of government as well. What I mean to say is simple: there would still be laws, and there would still be property, and in fact, there would nonetheless be a form of governance. It is just that these things are conducted privately without coercion or a central state. if you dislike how one property is governed, you may move elsewhere within anarcho-capitalist territory or if you own land privately, set the laws yourself. there are still consequences to theft as you've highlighted, to trespassing, to breaking laws set in privately owned land with privately decreed laws. There are still contracts, agreements, and all manners of organized civility present that maintains social order. They are just not done via state. This Mad Max speculation remains unfounded on the belief that people cannot already do what they're doing without government: mutual agreements, and consequences to known problems there will not be chaos. There is just a private form of order",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494539894 125122209,125156324,2017-05-11 22:00:21,">>125156109 Why would an illegal Mexican purchase border? Why would a mafia guy purchase police? Why would a thief purchase jail? Maybe you realize why government was invented. You can't arrest yourself.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494540021 125122209,125157058,2017-05-11 22:06:43,">>125155969 What part of private law don't you understand? People are willing to pay good money for defense of their property. You think soldiers fight for free? >>125156324 you're retarded, all of your claims have nothing to do with what we want. >Why would an illegal Mexican purchase border? mexicans dont buy borders, the people who want to keep them out do. >Why would a mafia guy purchase police? if he has good weapons people will probably pay him to protect them. >Why would a thief purchase jail? theifs will probably be forced to pay somthing for their crimes as well as retribution to their victim >You can't arrest yourself. what are you even implying here? what exactly do you think anarcho-capitalism is?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494540403 125122209,125157089,2017-05-11 22:06:55,">>125155969 >When you play in kindergarten and make rules and build castles, that only works for your friends, i come new day and step on your castle and don't know what laws you made up. a sign can be posted prior to your entrance that indicates the presence of laws in the premise, and if you are seen acting with hostility within private property knowing you had ignored it, then they are free to likewise exercise violence against you in self-defense -- perhaps mutual collective violence in the interest of protecting each other's private property from a known local threat >Government is nothing else than laws everybody agrees with. then how can you account for the fact that many people are unsatisfied with the laws of the land they live in? democracy in inherently oppressive -- you must obey the 70% as the 30% that opposed to the motion. This continues not in one law, but from many, until people are constantly in a state of conflicted opinion rather than uniform agreement. And they have no choice but to obey, else the state exercises violence. not to mention, that the votes of the ignorant and poor can be easily bought even if it is destructive to the nation. It is just not a very good system >>125156324 what is this about illegal mexicans, mafia guys, and thiefs? if people are illegally in private property they weren't supposed to be in, such as the mexicans, then they are given warning and eventually thrown off helicopters or whatever creative manner of physical removal likewise these mafia guys, if they are known violent and do not act rationally towards civil contracts, then they are a threat and would be physically removed. The thief as well, he would still be arrested by private police or eventually be physically removed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494540415 125122209,125157216,2017-05-11 22:07:56,,,Anonymous,dont-tread-on-me-meaning.jpg,6ebgDmaHZRikmoRfoV6LSQ==,US,,1494540476 125122209,125158153,2017-05-11 22:16:01,">>125157058 >people pay for border How? They will all be thinking how they don't want to pay tax or what do you think tax is? Every Ancap baby of rich parents thinks it's too difficult to pay tax, but then if everybody done it, that little baby wouldn't be rich. Nobody is going to pay for border in freedom land, you are close to that, why would i waste money? NOT MY PROBLEM, NOT MY GUILT, such basic human thinking.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494540961 125122209,125158287,2017-05-11 22:17:28,">>125158153 payment for a border is not, it is payment for a border",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494541048 125122209,125158365,2017-05-11 22:18:02,">>125158287 it is not tax*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494541082 125122209,125158604,2017-05-11 22:20:12,">>125157089 You don't even realize that your government is forcing you to abandon all the security measurements, you blame the government as concept, instead of people who manage it. You are beyond hope, you will blame anything in ancap society if you blame government as concept, you can't come to a single agreement, you are run by greed, you will kill yourself and you already are genociding your genetic code, blamming commies of past, but don't look 1 minute ahead when you see quick money to sell something in USA to Chinese or Arabs or etc.. You people are very dumb spoiled children of rich parents, all you are. Very dumb.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494541212 125122209,125159666,2017-05-11 22:29:48,">>125158604 there's almost no point in talking to you. You ignore what we say and go on to ramble on about this meme fueled picture of anarcho-capitalism while insulting me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494541788 125122209,125159690,2017-05-11 22:30:03,">>125158604 >You don't even realize that your government is forcing you to abandon all the security measurements government is not necessary when these same security measurements can be purchased privately, and voluntarily in a competitive marketplace with the most efficient competing provider. Rather than voting for the next guy who just *promises* he will magically fix things and make it all better (if you just vote for him), just like the last guy everyone voted for, there is just no consequence in a government, no accountability, no responsibility -- we'll fix it next election, next time, next this and that tomorrow when action is needed today and in the moment. I see the rest of your message primarily composes of non-arguments of the ad-hominem sort, and that much is greatly disappointing. The state as a concept cannot be immune to criticism, nothing is, and if ancap is also susceptible to criticism so be it: it will be addressed confidently and with reason, rather than the dismissive attitude by state sympathizers that use guilt instead of logic. I can assure you that I am not a rich man, just one very unhappy with the state of the world and the amount of injustice that regularly slides, impossible to ever address with a ballot box",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494541803 125122209,125160220,2017-05-11 22:34:56,,,Anonymous,1486241154531.jpg,Ggkr0wi9GEyIc9VwyKlhEw==,US,,1494542096 125122209,125160244,2017-05-11 22:35:10,,,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1494542110 125122209,125160295,2017-05-11 22:35:39,,,Anonymous,1485703346145.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1494542139 125122209,125160302,2017-05-11 22:35:45,">>125154323 >>125153500 >>125153251 Don't listen to this left leaning parasite, Allende was literally funding a marxist revolution that had direct backing from Stalin himself. Pinochet did NOT start, organize or decide on a coup, but it was voted on and requested by the Chilean parliament who realized that the economic and social and revolutionary situation was so bad that they needed help. Pinochet was chosen as the head of a multilateral Junta, a position he was reluctant to perform but did so out of duty. The reason he freed up the economy was due to his pragmatism, he listened to whatever advisors said would reverse the marxist bullshit that made his people starve, hence, the Chicago boys and his banking regulations that are still in place to this day. In addition, only a few thousand people died in the coup. HUNDREDS of thousands would have died had Stalin got a hold of it, and it would be Venezuela situation today.",,Anonymous,1493961023440.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,US,,1494542145 125122209,125160429,2017-05-11 22:37:17,">>125160302 >fucked up a big point when I say Stalin i mean the USSR / KGB. You can look up the parliament decree that requested the assistance of the chilean military, it's not a meme i just made up.",,Anonymous,rhodesia.jpg,ZwqzRoLDLvtH/SNFBhIoqQ==,US,,1494542237 125122209,125160502,2017-05-11 22:38:01,,,Anonymous,9vBxLrDjIs95dVZWij8c9hSNNPhpgvxj_SqQOxGaV8A.jpg,G33yeVE2/V7fVXI/LWRDNg==,US,,1494542281 125122209,125160523,2017-05-11 22:38:13,">>125160302 >>125160429 it is ok I believe you anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494542293 125122209,125160616,2017-05-11 22:39:03,"Calls for discussion of Libertarianism but no one mentions the LVT or how David Nolan, Fred Foldvary, Albert Jay Nock, Frank Chodorov or Henry George himself. Might as well change the thread title to Royal libertarian echo chamber general What ever happened to the Lockean proviso? Pic related will help you understand what property rights actually are.",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1494542343 125122209,125160735,2017-05-11 22:40:09,">>125160616 >Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494542409 125122209,125161051,2017-05-11 22:42:59,">>125160616 >georgism stop shilling this meme and get out",,Anonymous,fuck off back to reddit.jpg,U1ZD8dZU8YWBil+CU5rgzg==,CA,,1494542579 125122209,125161140,2017-05-11 22:43:46,">>125160735 Its okay i get a couple converts every time they do this; i'm not the only geolibertarian here anymore",,Anonymous,henry-georges-quotes-1.jpg,5eDqcT5JKWYhA4lM9wG9nw==,US,,1494542626 125122209,125161393,2017-05-11 22:46:17,">>125161051 >meme ideology >unironically ancap",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1494542777 125122209,125161435,2017-05-11 22:46:38,">>125160523 Just kidding here it is https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Agreement_of_the_Chamber_of_Deputies_of_Chile > That it is a fact that the current government of the Republic, from the beginning, has sought to conquer absolute power with the obvious purpose of subjecting all citizens to the strictest political and economic control by the state and, in this manner, fulfilling the goal of establishing a totalitarian system: the absolute opposite of the representative democracy established by the Constitution; >e) It has attacked educational freedom by illegally and surreptitiously implementing the so-called Decree of the Democratization of Learning, an educational plan whose goal is Marxist indoctrination; > g) It has made frequent politically motivated and illegal arrests, in addition to those already mentioned of journalists, and it has tolerated the whipping and torture of the victims; > 12. That especially serious is the breakdown of the Rule of Law by means of the creation and development of government-protected armed groups which, in addition to threatening citizens’ security and rights as well as domestic peace, are headed towards a confrontation with the Armed Forces. Keep these things in mind, written by the Chilean government, when you hear about muhhhh oppresssionnnn. Pinochet was just the figurehead of the organized resistance against a bona fide Marxist takeover, with armed marxist rebels being directly armed by the USSR. So Pinochet is much more than a meme, he led the vanguard against communism who made mistakes, but overall left his country in far greater place than every other land in the continent.",,Anonymous,itwasntrealcom-.gif,Cogq75hv3P1Hj/hOR+ksPQ==,US,,1494542798 125122209,125161697,2017-05-11 22:49:05,"Well, you can have every single book here: https://mega.nz/#F!0F5GXTjS!oGdz8UP5JbcleNMy6YKLvg Add the link to the list OP.",,Anonymous,1492787400870.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,BR,,1494542945 125122209,125161878,2017-05-11 22:50:51,">>125138105 this but now that i think about it, implying that true capitalism does not result in some sort of relationship between business and state is kind of the left's ""real communism has never existed"" spiel",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494543051 125122209,125162008,2017-05-11 22:52:03,">>125127534 >I don't know my own ideology",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494543123 125122209,125162450,2017-05-11 22:56:20,">Hans-Hermann Hoppe will die in your lifetime this is a very sad realization, /lrg/",,Anonymous,1489188698045.jpg,QXnKKlH6/OEU76my9xUz/A==,US,,1494543380 125122209,125162599,2017-05-11 22:58:01,">>125162450 i don't like to think of it",,Anonymous,1492547495285.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1494543481 125122209,125162729,2017-05-11 22:59:12,"So when are we gonna create our own covenant? lets meet somewhere and go deep innawoods, then live",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494543552 125122209,125163006,2017-05-11 23:02:01,">>125162729 it seems we are far too few in number and far too separated geographically to construct any local covenant effectively",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494543721 125122209,125163160,2017-05-11 23:03:27,">>125163006 a us covenant might work, we could meet in the midwest >inb4 waco",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494543807 125122209,125164292,2017-05-11 23:13:47,How do libertarians plan to compete when your neighbor does this?,,Anonymous,1492566723898.jpg,yrawj7JcYYZ1wDpcSRausQ==,US,,1494544427 125122209,125164790,2017-05-11 23:18:29,when will nazis be physically removed?,,Anonymous,sW8wjI[1].png,n3VfmZXP0nXlQ7Q5h9ZiHA==,BR,,1494544709 125122209,125165081,2017-05-11 23:20:54,">>125164292 depends, if they're willing to trade we would be more than happy to participate in the production of goods to meet wartime demands. An alliance or peace treaty doesn't sound bad at all, for so long as our mutual private property is respected",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494544854 125122209,125165317,2017-05-11 23:22:50,">>125164292 because as soon as they choose to invade they will be monsters how will be forced to go to house to house to slaugther the occupants, as no military installations exist to take, in a private society where every land owner has a private military to subscribe to , invading one county would trigger many private securities to act and those cause other landowners to attack preemptively in retaliation even before they invade their patch of dirt >also recreational nukes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494544970 125122209,125165359,2017-05-11 23:23:11,">>125165081 he's implying invasion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494544991 125122209,125165793,2017-05-11 23:27:34,">>125154436 An anarcho-capitalist society would have a constitution that lays out the rights of private property, principles of contractual law, and defines rules for a provisional state in case commies/muslims invade.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494545254 125122209,125165840,2017-05-11 23:28:05,">>125165359 if it's an imminent and direct invasion then yes obviously we would need to retaliate and prepare accordingly, but prior diplomatic measures of negotiation is key. A neutral stance on any war is ideal -- go Swiss or something. What matters is securing the survival of our private property, not theirs. Their wars are meaningless to us, and I am certain that any reasonable fellow would gladly allow for mutually beneficial trade to continue economic prosperity even in hard times",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494545285 125122209,125165986,2017-05-11 23:29:31,Privatize Everything - Arm Everyone,,Anonymous,1493810647451.png,xxQTxqtQeNq847liEeO2mg==,CA,,1494545371 125122209,125166146,2017-05-11 23:31:05,Our memes are best memes,,Anonymous,1494255605452.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,CA,,1494545465 125122209,125166224,2017-05-11 23:31:52,boot-lickers will argue taxation isn't theft,,Anonymous,1494196060446.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,CA,,1494545512 125122209,125166322,2017-05-11 23:32:52,Free helicopter rides for statists,,Anonymous,Ancapistan.png,k8PxL2s8njELzZSJTCdA7g==,CA,,1494545572 125122209,125166520,2017-05-11 23:35:07,">>125164790 Nazis are misguided Ancaps.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494545707 125122209,125166567,2017-05-11 23:35:43,">>125165840 the example used is inherently flawed as hitler wasn't truly intrested in world domination, you are right, but hes talking about a invasion senerio, as i said >>125165317 would be the only outcome",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494545743 125122209,125166687,2017-05-11 23:36:52,">>125166146 the neetsocs are our useful idiots, and also very valuable home security guards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494545812 125122209,125166712,2017-05-11 23:37:06,">>125166520 How can NutSac compete?",,Anonymous,1494258514807.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,CA,,1494545826 125122209,125166840,2017-05-11 23:38:30,">>125136972 Good meme, and fuck the LP. I must shitpick, though. HG isn't that far left; he only made one major exception to laissez-faire, basically making him a minarchist. Pinochet was more authoritarian than that, and ISIS is not pro-capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494545910 125122209,125167025,2017-05-11 23:40:15,">>125166687 We both agree that the current globalist government needs to be eliminated - they can help us take down the state afterwards - PHYSICALLY REMOVE",,Anonymous,1493541988440.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,CA,,1494546015 125122209,125167174,2017-05-11 23:41:46,">>125143020 There is no relevant moral difference between the government taking income from people to fund its serivces, and me extorting people to fund my mercenaries and roads. Political legitimacy is an illusion. That is the core of libertarian arguments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494546106 125122209,125167455,2017-05-11 23:44:50,">>125143020 I come to your neighborhood and threaten everyone to pay me money for protection is extortion, but when the govt demands money to protect you it isn't extortion somehow?",,namefag,,,US,,1494546290 125122209,125167734,2017-05-11 23:47:45,">>125167025 considering global elites go bye bye, thered be nothing stopping us or them from simply living in different places, in the us alone if you distribute everyone with a mile of land you'll still have PLENTY of room to spare, only jews cause war, whities usher in peace and love",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494546465 125122209,125168177,2017-05-11 23:52:19,">>125167734 Statists need to be moved from our libertarian paradise in order for us to perish. If they don't comply, we will crush them. Whites are the OG war machine, baby",,Anonymous,DONT.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,CA,,1494546739 125122209,125168224,2017-05-11 23:52:51,">>125168177 >>125167734 kek I meant flourish, not perish",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494546771 125122209,125168450,2017-05-11 23:55:04,More tasty memes for yall,,Anonymous,1494241854049.png,80fUnaYJycJUxInHf+RuNg==,CA,,1494546904 125122209,125168563,2017-05-11 23:56:14,,,Anonymous,1494196771412.png,p1uLlkVWdN4X+FZxgDil/w==,CA,,1494546974 125122209,125168585,2017-05-11 23:56:31,">>125168177 well i saw a map else where in what the 'ideal' world is, i agree with it, the western hemisphere is libertarian land, the shit hemisphere is natsoc wonderland,",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494546991 125122209,125168603,2017-05-11 23:56:41,">>125143020 the tax ""payer"" has their wages garnished and then given to people and people and countries without consent. Its not even a voluntary system. Without consent white people are having their money taken to fund welfare programs that subsidize their replacement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494547001 125122209,125168659,2017-05-11 23:57:17,dumping,,Anonymous,1494279933472.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,CA,,1494547037 125122209,125169126,2017-05-12 00:02:23,"give me liberty or give me death that's it period",,Anonymous,1494261776907.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,CA,,1494547343 125122209,125169171,2017-05-12 00:02:48,,,Anonymous,1493810647453.png,z4RpmBmwQpI5EG/2y02Vpg==,CA,,1494547368 125122209,125169220,2017-05-12 00:03:20,,,Anonymous,1494255890866.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,CA,,1494547400 125122209,125169386,2017-05-12 00:05:04,,,Anonymous,1494202618101.png,xRxV0uV1lZtG3/JTMrBkow==,CA,,1494547504 125122209,125169459,2017-05-12 00:05:51,">>125125922 I got Centrist with ""mixed views on government intervention"" even though i put strongly disagree for every single question regarding that issue.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494547551 125122209,125169696,2017-05-12 00:08:22,">>125122209 Bitcoin is a meme. Prove me wrong. You cant",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494547702 125122209,125169732,2017-05-12 00:08:45,">>125169459 Why do you believe government intervention is necessary?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494547725 125122209,125169760,2017-05-12 00:08:59,">>125129383 Yes. In a libertarian society no one would stop private organizations from operating as collectives in the free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494547739 125122209,125169824,2017-05-12 00:09:41,">>125169696 keep saying that, we're all getting rich :^)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494547781 125122209,125169896,2017-05-12 00:10:28,">>125169760 Yes we would - we would PHYSICALLY REMOVE",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494547828 125122209,125170065,2017-05-12 00:12:20,">>125169696 >no coiners HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHQQHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494547940 125122209,125170430,2017-05-12 00:16:29,">>125169896 EXACTLY >BASED LEAF",,Anonymous,gET fucked COMMIES.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,US,,1494548189 125122209,125170569,2017-05-12 00:18:04,">>125170065 >>125169824 Its crashing and burning as we speak",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494548284 125122209,125170730,2017-05-12 00:19:47,">>125122209 THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION WILL RETURN TO THE WORKERS! ANTIFA WILL SHOW YOU WHAT REDSTATE REALLY MEANS!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494548387 125122209,125171041,2017-05-12 00:22:57,">>125170569 >being this unaware HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALIKEITALERADYDROPEDTO900THENROSEAGAINHASHHAHAAHAHAHAHASHAHAhaahahahahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHASAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHSASAH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494548577 125122209,125171280,2017-05-12 00:25:41,">>125170569 If the price is dropping, that just means I can get more for cheaper. It's a good time to buy anon Crypto-currencies are not going away, the earlier you get on this wagon, the richer you will be in the future. I've made 1 grand this month and haven't even lifted a finger for it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494548741 125122209,125171528,2017-05-12 00:28:20,">>125171280 >>125171041 Its a bubble about to burst. Trust me Im jewish",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494548900 125122209,125171673,2017-05-12 00:29:57,">>125171528 >thinking btc is a normal stock HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHQQHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHQQHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494548997 125122209,125171677,2017-05-12 00:30:00,">>125170430 Thanks anon. Hoppe is great. If you like reading, check out Rothbard - his teacher NutSac's disregard him because he's jewish, but Murray Rothbard is one of the best minds of the last century.",,Anonymous,1494196704267.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,CA,,1494549000 125122209,125171855,2017-05-12 00:31:57,">>125171677 been getting though hoppe, and the lrg reading lists general, aside from me just picking up the bible and the kybalion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494549117 125122209,125171924,2017-05-12 00:32:39,">>125171528 Alrighty Pedro, I'm gonna keep getting rich",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494549159 125122209,125172219,2017-05-12 00:36:03,">>125171924 you been investing in str leaf? just made 0.01458503 sat off after i placed a long on the -56% str dip, i'm hoping it spikes up again to the 200%s and i moon, then repeat, bye bye wage slavery",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494549363 125122209,125172341,2017-05-12 00:37:28,"Just so we're clear...discussing the political theory of a free capitalist state society on /pol/ is just about the cringiest thing i have ever seen. I'm a huge believer in it but when it has its own goddamn general thread, it reeks of autistic faggots. Seriously, not even the retards of the ancoms have a general thread. This is goddamn embarrassing.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1488841665046.jpg,e5RlQl/s2PwtJUH2MyQglg==,US,,1494549448 125122209,125172384,2017-05-12 00:37:53,"How does age of consent work in Ancap? Since it already varies all over the United states and Australia. What is it 12,14,16,18,21??? Who are you in ancap to tell a city which believes it's 12 or 14 it's actually 18. Minachism>>>>>>>>>>>Anshit",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494549473 125122209,125172509,2017-05-12 00:39:11,">>125122209 Guys you make a lot of great memes, but if you want to change board culture and influence minds you need to also post them outside of these generals, you need to argue for your ideology in every thread.",,Anonymous,1494388815134.png,tciQRQjldnUwRsL8tCIn1w==,SE,,1494549551 125122209,125172588,2017-05-12 00:39:56,I'll just be here bumping with some good ancap memes and shit. Carry on being faggots.,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1484866143332.jpg,+vzRJlO8GLaLL7u+RJh+cA==,US,,1494549596 125122209,125172679,2017-05-12 00:40:49,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1489721365741.jpg,zMfjqjxCEJz+v51YMgGbpg==,US,,1494549649 125122209,125172725,2017-05-12 00:41:19,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1494559291019.jpg,U+VrNe0CALZ9F/bX6VVSQg==,US,,1494549679 125122209,125172794,2017-05-12 00:42:11,">>125172341 this unironically the last place of debate in this cesspool as nazis and other idiots come in to 'troll' us, and we actually debate them cause no one else comes by",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494549731 125122209,125172814,2017-05-12 00:42:20,>>125137836,,Anonymous,ancap-andy-baby.png,REnYNt/y6ktiql3a1CcH7w==,US,,1494549740 125122209,125172824,2017-05-12 00:42:27,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1488498015901.jpg,mxLaaGgLx73793P4+4/Zug==,US,,1494549747 125122209,125172912,2017-05-12 00:43:16,">>125171924 >>125171673 goypill me on bitcoin then",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494549796 125122209,125172925,2017-05-12 00:43:22,>>125172814,,Anonymous,1494524859062.png,QX30wxXo3nGZjt4CdLs5Ag==,US,,1494549802 125122209,125172966,2017-05-12 00:43:50,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1492467685775.jpg,QT6p8cVc8P8/QCftQY6AZw==,US,,1494549830 125122209,125173009,2017-05-12 00:44:24,">>125172219 I haven't touched STR, I've made big returns on Dash and LTC though. I made ~400% off Dash back in March. I'm thinking about going into day trading and quitting my job. Right now I'm just making money on the side",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494549864 125122209,125173078,2017-05-12 00:44:54,,,Anonymous,XKVbBuh.png,afgf9pcSL36MmcbMAQdAEQ==,US,,1494549894 125122209,125173169,2017-05-12 00:46:00,,,Anonymous,2016-09-23 12.48.50.jpg,R+iUmaOjvnx9zSg7tsjTcw==,US,,1494549960 125122209,125173240,2017-05-12 00:46:51,">>125130072 What an ugly image you posted",,Anonymous,1494073226444.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,SE,,1494550011 125122209,125173259,2017-05-12 00:47:02,">>125172384 Also how would ancap deal with automation keeping wages high enough to live off and people moving to better jobs if they pay more so mcdonalds just can't pay 2 cents implies there is a shortage of labor so people are valued, but with automation we are set to lose many of the biggest job creators and the biggest employers. it seems very unreasonable to assume it will stay like it is now",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494550022 125122209,125173287,2017-05-12 00:47:20,">The physical removal of Communists from our board of peace. >Board of peace. Isn't this similar to... >Religion of peace. Do you get where I'm going with this?",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1494550040 125122209,125173342,2017-05-12 00:47:50,">>125172509 We got the meme magic baby",,Anonymous,1494261948632.png,j5aQoPz2YVSUmKzHkNOwjw==,CA,,1494550070 125122209,125173356,2017-05-12 00:48:00,">>125172912 its run like the us dollar, on the faith and trust of the community except unlike the us dollar, the its powered by our internet connections, investment into the rigs, the electricity to run it, and the fact that many banks looking into block-chain tech(google Fin-tech) has legitimized it beyond belief, and bitcoin is first and foremost a technology, like the gun it will never go away, it can only become obsolete",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494550080 125122209,125173428,2017-05-12 00:48:50,">>125173342 We've really got it, now it just needs to be pushed",,Anonymous,1494297535130.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,SE,,1494550130 125122209,125173450,2017-05-12 00:49:01,">>125173009 if you can do it i wan't able to right off the bat, but i'm getting there",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494550141 125122209,125173620,2017-05-12 00:50:52,">>125173356 this part I know, but why are shills saying it's a bubble and why isnt it? i was planning on buying it",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494550252 125122209,125173627,2017-05-12 00:50:56,"Im struggling with my business venture in terms of time and start up cost, but I love every minute of it. Because at least I have the opportunity to build something, and in a few years I will be at least moderately profitable and very much secure in my niche. Heres to capitalism!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494550256 125122209,125173691,2017-05-12 00:51:41,"Someone answer my posts I've got to go but I'm leaving the thread on auto update >>125172384 And this one >>125173259",,Anonymous,thumb_COLOURBOX2512710.jpg,ujmKmUJICuIJPxhRqm1bbA==,AU,,1494550301 125122209,125173782,2017-05-12 00:52:43,">>125122209 Listen. Listen. You NEVER use Old English in all fucking caps, ok? It just isn't done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494550363 125122209,125173954,2017-05-12 00:54:42,">>125154812 nazis get free rids just like the communists",,Anonymous,heh.jpg,e0PcU8WLKpYWaCXqYJt8sQ==,SE,,1494550482 125122209,125174152,2017-05-12 00:57:07,">>125160302 there is no alliance with nazis, into the chopper the nazis go",,Anonymous,1491435303712.jpg,efwe91tvImJEs6KhiqWQoA==,SE,,1494550627 125122209,125174170,2017-05-12 00:57:18,">>125173450 I also trade stocks and bonds, but not as much as crypto. I try to watch trends - for example when the United Airlines fiasco was happening recently, UAL stock dropped really low. I bought in for a lot of money, and when it rebounded, I made a huge return. With practice, you can make a lot of money trading",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494550638 125122209,125174307,2017-05-12 00:58:53,">>125160616 Georgism is legitimate, don't mind the radicals.",,Anonymous,1494200553702 (1).png,V1/wvwPgIK9i7A5zk9Wldg==,SE,,1494550733 125122209,125174404,2017-05-12 01:00:00,">>125173620 they say its a bubble cause they are fud, go to biz and enlighten yourself Its not a bubble cause as i said its not a stock its a tech, its a direct representation of how much faith people have in it, the ONLY way for the coin to crash is shown in smaller shit coins, when the dev runs with the coin, or its obviously a pike scheme(chain tech is not built for growth) also if i remeber correctly the only time its really dipped is recently after the btc was denied reconition as a currency cause it didn't pass the requirement of being centeralized on the stupid only in it for the money types got panicy, but the thing to remember is that plenty of people got rich buying 900$ coins only for it to spike up to 2000, >if you are hesitant just wait, i did and missed when it was 100$, lesson learned for me, you just have to see the missed train",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494550800 125122209,125174410,2017-05-12 01:00:04,>>125173691,,Anonymous,1494277851188.jpg,h+BJ8Gu5jg+oCXw1qVb2Hw==,CA,,1494550804 125122209,125174834,2017-05-12 01:04:44,">>125172341 dont listen to this falseflagging nazi",,Anonymous,1493814864551.jpg,8Rvao7XmMHk2tQzA8XzdOg==,SE,,1494551084 125122209,125174869,2017-05-12 01:05:10,"Don't let your memes be dreams, anons",,Anonymous,1494195816643.png,SoP5d3E8mNpq9UkRDRPqPA==,CA,,1494551110 125122209,125174923,2017-05-12 01:05:44,">>125174170 what platform do you use, i am extremely deterred from most trading cause of the high brokerage fees, robinhood is nice but i don't like having to jump though the hoops of vpns for penny trading",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494551144 125122209,125174958,2017-05-12 01:06:03,">>125174404 biz is saying it's a bubble, and they suck at memes i just have to chekc my legislation now, I'm sure the government fucked it up alraedy is it taxed in the us?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494551163 125122209,125175318,2017-05-12 01:10:03,">>125173691 free entry into the market, including that of making robots and food resturant ownership will be more than enough to combat any possible automation scare, even in the long end game of complete automation it won't be an issue as people will always find another way to make money, but perhaps libertarianism economically will be insufficient to deal with the future world, i doubt it though. most would agree puberty would be the limit, also why do you assume there WOULD be laws for consent? legislation to such an extent is an evil that shouldn't be tolerated",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494551403 125201686,125201686,2017-05-12 07:15:48,"/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for the discussion of capitalism, libertarianism, conservatism, anarcho-capitalism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Anti-Communist Action.png,quvKx2DlSvA0SyLrVFEdjg==,AU,,1494573348 125201686,125201725,2017-05-12 07:16:29,">Facebook page facebook.com /LibertarianRightGeneral/",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494573389 125201686,125201749,2017-05-12 07:16:48,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494573408 125201686,125201797,2017-05-12 07:17:30,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494573450 125201686,125201816,2017-05-12 07:17:47,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494573467 125201686,125201981,2017-05-12 07:20:06,*sips democratic tears*,,Anonymous,1494543873499.png,OzgoRELPwbKylms0CnI8aA==,AU,,1494573606 125201686,125202046,2017-05-12 07:21:11,">>125201686 Nice",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ZzsML+TO87g6eqFAlF11qA==,FR,,1494573671 125201686,125203573,2017-05-12 07:44:33,Oh boy I was waiting for this thread!,,Anonymous,1494116984421.jpg,Tv0kuxhoAux++N1hDW85tw==,PT,,1494575073 125201686,125203755,2017-05-12 07:47:19,"What's going on my dudes. Daily reminder that individualism is not egalitarianism. Yes we're all individuals but all individuals are NOT the same. I don't want smelly, brown, degenerate and commie individuals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494575239 125201686,125203849,2017-05-12 07:48:37,"What's going on my dudes. Daily reminder that individualism is not egalitarianism. Yes we're all individuals but all individuals are NOT the same. I don't want smelly, brown, degenerate and commie individuals in my private community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494575317 125201686,125204142,2017-05-12 07:52:40,Post >yfw someone doesn't methodological dualism.,,Anonymous,1412916202255.jpg,hhlyo4WTpkIachZoWD3Quw==,AU,,1494575560 125201686,125205423,2017-05-12 08:10:17,You guys be inclusive now. Remember we don't tolerate hate here.,,Anonymous,TuckerTime.jpg,ziP/Tie0c6zMSx3e9hg31Q==,US,,1494576617 125201686,125205580,2017-05-12 08:12:15,">>125205423 I don't understand this faggot. Does he really expect private land owners in a state of anarchy to have open boarders?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494576735 125201686,125205712,2017-05-12 08:14:15,">>125205423 Cucker",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494576855 125201686,125205802,2017-05-12 08:15:28,,,Anonymous,gimme my gun back you commie cunt.jpg,nmha1rBG/ArAdq/3WPH6rw==,AU,,1494576928 125201686,125206191,2017-05-12 08:21:02,">>125205712 What I choose to watch my wife do with other men is my business, keep your hate to yourself.",,Anonymous,jeffrey_tucker.jpg,kyCXU7+NM+E6OAA6X0+VPw==,US,,1494577262 125201686,125206579,2017-05-12 08:26:37,">>125205802 GIMME MY GUNS",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494577597 125201686,125206612,2017-05-12 08:27:02,">>125205802 Gimme my gun.",,Anonymous,ancap_andy_commies_matt_furie.png,NN7furIBj4aVxZ0usDFpFQ==,US,,1494577622 125201686,125207034,2017-05-12 08:32:29,">>125201686 Thank you. I belive that if Norwegian economy is to survive after the natural resources is spendt, it needs to adapt a more capitalist economy. However I need more depth beyond my own thoughts and theory's to be able to argue it. I did some courses in micro, macro and general economics some years back, but other than that I'm pretty green on the subject. What book should I start with?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1494577949 125201686,125207291,2017-05-12 08:35:33,">>125203573 Fugg that flag was the first ancap OC I ever made.",,Anonymous,hoppe bae.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,PT,,1494578133 125201686,125207371,2017-05-12 08:36:33,">>125207034 Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell, or Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494578193 125201686,125207388,2017-05-12 08:36:51,">>125207034 The Problem With Socialism by Thomas DiLorenzzo Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazzlitt All very good books and not even verging into AnCap territory.",,Anonymous,lolita smugged.jpg,G9SB6mqYvl/RcP5OJRktog==,PT,,1494578211 125201686,125207417,2017-05-12 08:37:09,">>125205802 GIMME MY GUN",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1494578229 125201686,125207582,2017-05-12 08:39:05,">>125201686 What are the steps we can take towards a more libertarian society?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494578345 125201686,125207705,2017-05-12 08:40:21,">>125207034 This is THE introductory book to Austrian economics.",,Anonymous,Economics_in_One_Lesson_Henry_Hazlitt.jpg,N+dZcUs0kpEFmeVzyyuujQ==,AU,,1494578421 125201686,125207914,2017-05-12 08:42:31,">>125207582 Do this >>125206938",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494578551 125201686,125208027,2017-05-12 08:43:34,">>125207914 Yes but how do we get those things passed?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494578614 125201686,125208145,2017-05-12 08:44:54,">>125207582 Push for legislation. I dont know the situation in australia, but rallying with like minded people to protest government intervention and spending might do something. Mabye get a list of definitive points everyone can agree on in certain policy issues. But preferably you should pander to some mahor party fuckfaces in some way to gain more traction, or you could just go your own way and just push for what you belive is right. If you wanna organize one ill see what I can do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494578694 125201686,125208226,2017-05-12 08:45:48,>>125207582,,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1494578748 125201686,125208332,2017-05-12 08:47:14,">>125208027 Cultural influence via internet Cultural influence via academic institutions Secession movements States rights movements Voting",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494578834 125201686,125208756,2017-05-12 08:52:34,">>125207388 >>125207705 Hazlitt seems like the best choice, better start reading. Thanks again",,Anonymous,oldmanreading.jpg,Jne4bVISUdzkNew5Zv5koA==,NO,,1494579154 125201686,125208957,2017-05-12 08:54:47,">>125207034 >>125208756 These something you have to realize when it comes to discussing libertarian ideas. Your emphasis should be to help people arrive to your conclusions, not just teach it to them. Instill the ideas and have them arrive to it. The other point is while you should understand the theory it matters more to have nice witty arguments and talking points rather than full fledged arguments.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494579287 125201686,125208990,2017-05-12 08:55:12,">>125206191 is he actually a cuck?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494579312 125201686,125209027,2017-05-12 08:55:50,"For the sake of discussion, as I am relativley moderate when it comes to my libertarian beliefs, why do ancaps think that their ideology is good? I know that thats pretty general but in terms of how humans work and function it just seems like its a recipe for not neccisarily a plutocracy but a totalitarian monarchy that strips away freedom by means of contracts and enforces equality through monopolaic concepts of pay and distribution similar to a communist state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494579350 125201686,125209042,2017-05-12 08:55:58,">>125207582 Essentially what the other guy said (>>125207914) plus pushing for political decentralization, i.e. regionalism, secession and separatism. Alternatively we all leave our countries and go to Liberland or to one of the Seateading Institute's floating cities. Although I'd be sad to leave my nation to commies and socialists.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1494579358 125201686,125209386,2017-05-12 09:00:05,">>125208990 Most likely.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494579605 125201686,125209924,2017-05-12 09:06:53,">thread is on page 6 in no time Hmmmmm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494580013 125201686,125210162,2017-05-12 09:09:41,">>125209924 I bet it was the Jews.",,Anonymous,lilthang.jpg,yk/BVtzvbmY8/5SZ0FxK4Q==,US,,1494580181 125201686,125210216,2017-05-12 09:10:24,">>125209027 Why does it seem like a recipe for totalitarianism?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494580224 125201686,125210367,2017-05-12 09:12:08,">>125208957 >Your emphasis should be to help people arrive to your conclusions, not just teach it to them. Instill the ideas and have them arrive to it. Very good point, goes for any discussing really.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1494580328 125201686,125211013,2017-05-12 09:19:51,,,Anonymous,1492683483279.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,US,,1494580791 125201686,125211277,2017-05-12 09:22:36,">>125210162 Well technically libertarian policy allows jews to prosper more. >>125210216 Well the only widely known historical reference thats similar enough would be the gilded age in america, after the reconstruction era of the civil war. Essentially the charasmatic, virtuous and genetically advantaged create massive investment and economic growth, playing with each other until short term and long term priorities mutually come in contact and monopolies are formed via company buy outs. Then you have the **""memes of production""** controlled by (((robber barons))). And then their kids inherit some part of either the company or personal funds, they then grow up spoiled and not self made and/or just not as competent (see historical monarchies). and then ruthless political oriented bisuness people in the upper manegment make the company lose face and whalla you have a contractual modern day corperate jewry tier totalitarian fuckery factory. Equality of opportunity doesnt hold as much weight for the common or poor man and the rich design loopholes in legislation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494580956 125201686,125212449,2017-05-12 09:36:09,">>125211277 Kek, libertarians want to tear down the Zog. We're not helping them, we're the opposition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494581769 125201686,125212657,2017-05-12 09:38:21,">>125201686 The free market never fa......",,Anonymous,great-depression-a.jpg,WlQw+j24VNmlBBHCEho6Lg==,US,,1494581901 125201686,125212833,2017-05-12 09:40:22,">>125212657 ...ils. The Great Depression was worsened by the Fed and interventionist policies. It would've sorted itself out in months had the government not intervened. People can't delay consumption forever.",,Anonymous,based anime ancap grill.png,SoP5d3E8mNpq9UkRDRPqPA==,PT,,1494582022 125201686,125212860,2017-05-12 09:40:43,">>125212449 Except, you're not, you're just removing their worst enemy, the state and handing them full control of your kingdom. Taxes for social programs are the Jews worse nightmare.",,Anonymous,Picture Unrelated 17.jpg,9Fkk6ODrmi6xBWaNGPCjWQ==,US,,1494582043 125201686,125213095,2017-05-12 09:43:24,">>125212860 Why the fuck is every jew using the state as its toy then. All of these fucking jews are advocateing for the most senile bullshit and misleading the public by means of the state most of all. The second they started fucking with equality of opportunity and lobbying to gain corperate benifits, they were on top.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494582204 125201686,125213278,2017-05-12 09:45:33,">>125212833 I disagree. Keynesian economics helped greatly in america as did facism in germany, but it is true that long term the great deppression would have been solved without as many consequences via free market principles and protections.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494582333 125201686,125213300,2017-05-12 09:45:54,">>125212860 >the Jews worst enemy is draining the goyims resources on free abortions for white women. I wonder who could be behind this post.",,Anonymous,1478062554533.jpg,zNB+xJzgi0DYrt5FFmSyBw==,US,,1494582354 125201686,125213346,2017-05-12 09:46:26,,,Anonymous,1494595639851.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,LV,,1494582386 125201686,125213386,2017-05-12 09:46:57,">>125211277 Firstly, you've admitted that the best individuals in society would be the ones to gain control of the means of production. However, you fail to mention the fact that these individuals are able to secure this economic power because they are the best at serving the interests of consumers. Charisma, virtue and genetics are all merely secondary to the ability to provide value - which is directly determined by consumers. Secondly, you mention inheritance as a detriment to efficiency and you mention business failure. Then you say that this results in corporate totalitarianism? I don't understand your line of reasoning. You say that the best value creators in society will become the most popular value creators, but you don't say why that's bad. You say that inheritance causes lack of competition and thus failure, but you say that this results in market domination?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494582417 125201686,125213557,2017-05-12 09:48:53,">>125212860 Then why has the state become undeniably larger over the last century?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494582533 125201686,125213590,2017-05-12 09:49:16,">>125212860 >>125213095 For reference look up noam chomsky as a small example. Then look at his net worth. Its hypocritical bullshit. At this point a strong state only helps the jews solodify their power. Breaking the power bloc that is the banks and restoring confidence in a gold standard would do wonders. As would breaking corperate control, starting with reinstating and heavily inforcing the public domain law. The state has its place, but most certainly not every place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494582556 125201686,125213797,2017-05-12 09:51:27,">>125212860 that's why the jews are the foremost neoconservatives and part of the biggest lobbying groups in Washington. They crave state power",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494582687 125201686,125214116,2017-05-12 09:55:16,">>125212833 >The Great Depression was worsened by the Fed Technically true, but you're distorting context. The fed could have issued more credit to help hasten recovery, but they couldn't because the Gold Standard was still in effect at the time. At that time, the amount of credit the Federal Reserve could issue was limited by the Federal Reserve Act, which required 40% gold backing of Federal Reserve Notes issued. By the late 1920s, the Federal Reserve had almost hit the limit of allowable credit that could be backed by the gold in its possession.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494582916 125201686,125214306,2017-05-12 09:57:25,">>125213278 >Keynesian economics helped greatly in america >FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409",,Anonymous,1494560187083.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1494583045 125201686,125214544,2017-05-12 09:59:53,">>125213590 > gold standard I_want_another_Great_Drepression.txt The first known Great Depression happened in 1800' because of the lack gold. It was resolved by British discovering more gold in southern Africa. What will save us from another gold standard great depression 21st century?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494583193 125201686,125214623,2017-05-12 10:00:55,,,Anonymous,VDbChg-9_400x400.jpg,+xaNyB7yZYw1nwu+QASDnQ==,AU,,1494583255 125201686,125214729,2017-05-12 10:02:02,">>125212833 >The free market never fa... Capitalism has sweet spots. There have been several attempts to free up markets by reducing the size of the state in controlled environments. It usually starts out as a success until a certain point before the markets start to saturate. Mixed market economies have been proven to be superior to free market ones. Having businesses and state programs that compete against each other weakens the negative trade offs of both. >>125212833 >The Great Depression was worsened by the Fed and interventionist policies. It definitely was but hindsight is always 20/20. >It would've sorted itself out in months had the government not intervened. Only because Germany decided to chimp out and start flinging shit at the rest of the world for the second time in a row. The free market wouldn't have been able to get the United States out of depression without such a huge external stimulus. >>125213095 >Why the fuck is every jew using the state as its toy then. Because right-wingers are stupid enough to keep voting to give them tax cuts without fixing the corruption in our system first. >All of these fucking jews are advocateing for the most senile bullshit and misleading the public by means of the state most of all. You mean misleading the public through privately owned mass media? >The second they started fucking with equality of opportunity and lobbying to gain corperate benifits, they were on top. Again, I repeat, right-wingers did this. Maybe you should stop voting for them.",,Anonymous,Picture Unrelated 16.jpg,iR6t3yTcyfczT+w4xc3l4Q==,US,,1494583322 125201686,125215124,2017-05-12 10:06:16,">>125214729 >Having businesses and state programs that compete against each other weakens the negative trade offs of both.",,Anonymous,1494112969072.jpg,bGmpPE+tIg0rDSvbSq93dg==,US,,1494583576 125201686,125215237,2017-05-12 10:07:34,">>125214544 People could have commodity based currencies like silver.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494583654 125201686,125215353,2017-05-12 10:08:47,">>125213386 >Firstly, you've admitted that the best individuals in society would be the ones to gain control of the means of production. Yes, this is a given >However, you fail to mention the fact that these individuals are able to secure this economic power because they are the best at serving the interests of consumers. This is applicable only in a policy of ethics and/or compitition. When you remove compitition, the primary motivation is ethics. When you remove both, you have a monopolistic identity that abuses its postition to sell the very needs of daily life to its own workers which it pays on a basis of profit exploitation. It is a very bad issue for people because they cant effectivley show their true worth unless they fundamentally change the means or supply of consumption. Ie. Solar and wind as a means instead of buying overpriced oil. Even this would struggle to be passed effectivley. Companies in the past have purposefully taken a hold of or stifled alternatives by means of monetary acquisition or simply lobbying and corporate sabatoge. They have the ability to do so. Charisma, virtue and genetics are all merely secondary to the ability to provide value - which is directly determined by consumers. And when the consumers have no choice or are ringed into a contractual mess controlled by multiple companies with the same aim and goal (see banks) you get as explained above. If the state can do it. So can companies. Both are potential exploitative entities with essentially the same goal. >Secondly, you mention inheritance as a detriment to efficiency and you mention business failure. Then you say that this results in corporate totalitarianism? Nope. Bisuness failure results in short term worries being compensated by long term control (company buy out) this then results in multiple generations of progressively nastier CEOs and members of higher managment (see monarchism) and that leads to effective totalitarian-like control under a monopolaic entity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494583727 125201686,125215410,2017-05-12 10:09:28,">>125214729 She is my third favorite porn star",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1494583768 125201686,125215949,2017-05-12 10:15:39,">>125214544 >The first known Great Depression happened in 1800' because of the lack gold. It was resolved by British discovering more gold in southern Africa. reddit, I believe that you really believe that. I also believe you are ignoring that we still have depressions despite inflating our money and taxing everyone!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494584139 125201686,125216000,2017-05-12 10:16:05,">>125215124 I concur >>125213386 >I don't understand your line of reasoning. You say that the best value creators in society will become the most popular value creators, but you don't say why that's bad. Like hell its inherently bad. The gilded age represented ww2 levels of industrial and economic growth. Its the long term consequences of giving a single type or set of institutions so much power that they could literally be considered institutions (modern day corporations) >You say that inheritance causes lack of competition and thus failure, but you say that this results in market domination? Inheritance when applied to any power position must be earned to ensure trust, competence and righteousness. When it is not, you have shit monarchs and dictators. To have that kind of power, you need prior market domination which is devoid of competition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494584165 125201686,125216059,2017-05-12 10:16:47,">>125214729 >Because right-wingers are stupid enough to keep voting to give them tax cuts without fixing the corruption in our system first every attempt to fix corruption using the state is an exercise in further corruption",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494584207 125201686,125216248,2017-05-12 10:18:48,">>125216059 Corruption is applicable to all levels of authority. Not just government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494584328 125201686,125216431,2017-05-12 10:20:55,">>125216059 >Eliminating all safeguards against corruption will end corruption",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494584455 125201686,125216487,2017-05-12 10:21:32,">>125215949 Read a book, nigger. But you can start with wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Depression",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494584492 125201686,125216804,2017-05-12 10:25:11,">>125215949 >I also believe you are ignoring that we still have depressions despite inflating our money and taxing everyone! On the scale of what happened in the 1930's? No, not really.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494584711 125201686,125217018,2017-05-12 10:27:21,">>125216804 I am in a firm belief that by manipulation from the fed the market is gonna go through the floor someday and theres gonna be nothing left at the supermarket. But thats mostly based on superstition, I dont have any well rounded infographics or evidence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494584841 125201686,125217603,2017-05-12 10:33:34,">>125217018 >I have no evidence of this, but I firmly believe it. No point in even arguing then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494585214 125201686,125218025,2017-05-12 10:37:36,">>125201686 Can someone explain property rights to me? Its property in myself and everything else is an extension of that? So from self ownership flows my right to labor and capital and all the rest?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494585456 125201686,125218177,2017-05-12 10:39:10,">>125213300 >the Jews worst enemy is draining the goyims resources on free abortions for white women. Minorities have abortions at a disproportionately higher rate compared to white women. If anything abortions are helping white birth rates and reducing crime. >>125213557 >Then why has the state become undeniably larger over the last century? Because big business keeps getting bigger and bigger and it colludes with the state. We need to find ways to stop collusion and create competition. I don't know much about Australian laws or economics but here in the states, overturning Citizens United would be a huge step. The issue I have with right-wing Libertarian philosophy is that reducing the size of the government would allow corruption to spread faster than competition causing the corrupt individuals controlling everything to gain unrestricted power without another power structure to fend them off. I personally believe taking a large state and swinging it at big business would be a lot more effective. >>125213590 >For reference look up noam chomsky as a small example. Then look at his net worth. Its hypocritical bullshit. Noam Chomsky is a philosopher living in a capitalist society. His net worth is a reflection of his success. If you're implying that Noam Chomsky is Jew behind the curtain rigging markets then you are far beyond saving. I don't understand the argument you were trying to make here. Also Karl Marx said on several occasions that he loved capitalism because he was the son of a wealthy factory owner and didn't have to work for a living. He claimed that capitalism treated him very very well but that didn't stop him criticizing it.",,Anonymous,Picture Unrelated 18.jpg,ZDEZQXqMPDFEwEYrKuauEA==,US,,1494585550 125201686,125219020,2017-05-12 10:47:30,">>125218177 Lol you fool, niggers want kids so they can get even more benefits, even though they don't intend on raising their niglets anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494586050 125201686,125219021,2017-05-12 10:47:29,">>125213590 >At this point a strong state only helps the jews solodify their power. The Jews have already solidified their power through big business. The only thing weakening that state would do is gives those business that control the market more power. >Breaking the power bloc that is the banks and restoring confidence in a gold standard would do wonders. I agree with breaking up the big banks but bringing back the gold standard would just lead to another depression. >As would breaking corperate control, starting with reinstating and heavily inforcing the public domain law. I kind of like this. >The state has its place, but most certainly not every place. I agree with this also which is why you should allow businesses and the state to compete. Competition is the best way to find who is right for the particular job.",,Anonymous,Picture Unrelated 19.jpg,+/3oKAu8gccCK83dGf0Dzg==,US,,1494586049 125201686,125219185,2017-05-12 10:49:10,">>125219020 >Lol you fool, niggers want kids so they can get even more benefits, even though they don't intend on raising their niglets anyway. The statistics say otherwise. Google it and you'll find out for yourself.",,Anonymous,Picture Unrelated 20.jpg,kU8UdIWFkQuQQuUvmlo1GA==,US,,1494586150 125201686,125219983,2017-05-12 10:57:34,">>125219185 I know nogs get more abortions, they also receive more child support from their baby daddies, because the state makes then pay up. They also receive more general welfare, ebt, healthcare. The state sure likes to make sure our working folk support those niggers. Also stop posting tatted crack whores. you're addicted to kike pornography if you have that many pictures saved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494586654 125201686,125220243,2017-05-12 11:00:37,">>125217603 You have sources, Cite them. I cite history. If you have any directly contradicting examples from history that is proven to be true and is directly against my historical examples, then show them. The massive economic collapse happening meme is just a meme I buy. That doesnt really discount everything else I said doesnt it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494586837 125201686,125220315,2017-05-12 11:01:09,">>125207034 For the Economic side of things: >Economics in One Lesson by Hazlitt For the Political side: >Anatomy of the State by Rothbard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494586869 125201686,125220990,2017-05-12 11:08:25,"- Ancap is impossible without passing through a stage where the planet has a true global hegemon who then literally cucks all other great powers of their offensive capacities while also avoiding a total war, and a system is put in place that precludes all private communities from deploying WMDs. Development of WMDs are defined to be a violation of the NAP. - The only feasible candidate for a global hegemon is the US. The only realistic mechanism for precluding all the resulting private communities from needing/wanting WMD is some sort of intrusive AI that can monitor all activity and preempt such illicit developments by informing optimal coalitions of private communities on when, where and how they must act to prevent a rogue PC from this particular form of NAP violation. The global community develops this system and the global hegemon simultaneously disbands its offensive capabilities. - Development of superior AI to the global referee AI is also not allowed by any individual and/or PC unless there is a 99% global vote to disband the prohibition and allow AI research to proceed towards the singularity. Surely the design of such a system would be nontrivial and fail safes, zero day vulnerabilities, backdoors, secure voting/signaling etc. would be serious concerns if not insurmountable flaws. Assuming a sufficiently robust AI exists, and it wouldn't have robot drones or any power other than to observe and inform in a manner that insures maximal fair play amongst all factions, would this usher in a golden age of libertarian excellence without any skynet doomsday scenarios? There's an AI researcher who has conceived of a ""nanny AI"" that is far more intrusive than what I have outlined for purposes of easing humanity towards singularity type futures. Alright, critique this scenario apart.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494587305 125201686,125221157,2017-05-12 11:10:07,">>125212657 >Unironically calling a market with a central bank a free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494587407 125201686,125221706,2017-05-12 11:15:03,">>125219983 >I know nogs get more abortions, they also receive more child support from their baby daddies, because the state makes then pay up. Irrelevant to the argument and I don't understand how that is a bad thing. Child support makes irresponsible father financially responsible and that is solely thanks to the state. Less child support means that the state would have to hand out more welfare. >They also receive more general welfare, ebt, healthcare. So why are against abortions again, when abortions reduce the amount of people depending on the state for welfare. >The state sure likes to make sure our working folk support those niggers. >our working folk >not you yourself Yes and I am one of those working folk who pays my taxes. If you're not currently employed and contributing to society, I would worry more about seeking employment and getting off of welfare yourself instead of worrying about niggers being on welfare. If you live with apes, it's hard to be clean. Also, a pack of starving niggers is way worse than a normal pack of niggers. >Also stop posting tatted crack whores. No. >you're addicted to kike pornography if you have that many pictures saved. How is this a problem and how does this effect you in any way?",,Anonymous,Picture Unrelated 02.jpg,yY7OS4+RW3WNd6lfKtPdBQ==,US,,1494587703 125201686,125224135,2017-05-12 11:39:04,bump,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494589144 125201686,125224272,2017-05-12 11:40:14,">>125221706 Awful dismissal and protection. Never did I say I don't have a job or receive welfare. Also go ahead be a degenerate. I thought maybe you'd care. I was wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494589214 125201686,125224395,2017-05-12 11:41:26,,,Anonymous,Lambda symbol of Génération Identitaire.png,LacPsYs4OQLCmgwbbh856g==,GB,,1494589286 125201686,125225174,2017-05-12 11:48:33,,,Anonymous,timeforarguments.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,US,,1494589713 125201686,125225807,2017-05-12 11:54:31,">>125201686 https://discord.gg/AbDBP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494590071 125333210,125333210,2017-05-13 06:50:00,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - THE EXISTENCE OF COMMIES VIOLATES THE NAP,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1494658200 125333210,125333408,2017-05-13 06:53:18,"How's it going my freedom loving pals? For those of you who hate freedom, why are you such a little bitch? You should know any man enslaved to Libertinism, Marxism, or Degeneracy is not a free man.",,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,US,,1494658398 125333210,125333409,2017-05-13 06:53:19,">Left-Libertarian, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off But why? We just have slight variances in our solutions to problems. Left libertarians would rather community policing before private policing for instance.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494658399 125333210,125333416,2017-05-13 06:53:27,"In for a libertarian Saturday evening, how are you guys?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494658407 125333210,125333555,2017-05-13 06:55:54,">>125333409 No, fucking no. anti-propertarians, marxists, moral relativists, and egalitarians have a history of undermining our movement. I will not tolerate the cancer they espouse. Any time we left them in they overrun us with commie faggotry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494658554 125333210,125333665,2017-05-13 06:57:28,">>125333416 I'm doing well my dude. Whats going on Maltabro.",,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,I71Eo6gzq0qKx5jIHVr5gQ==,US,,1494658648 125333210,125333688,2017-05-13 06:57:56,">>125333408 >loves liberty >posts statist fuck off",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494658676 125333210,125333778,2017-05-13 06:59:30,">>125333688 >loves liberty >wants to police what image I post. Fuck off. You like this image better?",,Anonymous,ConferatenNS2.png,gehjTXbTrtYxMP3Go1xtLg==,US,,1494658770 125333210,125333813,2017-05-13 06:59:58,">>125333665 been sick almost all week, missed these threads, did any statist provide a decent argument in this time? Or business as usual?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494658798 125333210,125333928,2017-05-13 07:02:06,">>125333813 buisness as usual, most recent ""debaters"" have been dumber than usual. I'd rather talk to my libertarian bros instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494658926 125333210,125333982,2017-05-13 07:03:03,">>125333778 Kill yourself boot licker",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494658983 125333210,125333990,2017-05-13 07:03:08,">>125333555 I'm not a Marxist and left libertarianism fails without moral objectivity too, we must all agree to a law. If I'm egalitarian it's because libertarianism without it tends to splinter and fragment societies. Do you believe the peasants lived like the daimyo? The idea is that at this stage humans only need to be slightly better to recognise self improvement as a core value. After they are made to take responsibility for themselves, then many laws are simply not needed. This is about functional minarchy. Our Lord Molymeme has decreed this is simply not possible in low light iq societies. >>125333813 Define statist.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494658988 125333210,125334222,2017-05-13 07:07:18,">>125333982 Eat shit, commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494659238 125333210,125334294,2017-05-13 07:08:23,">>125333990 Someone who believes the state is a necessity or a necessary evil without any doubt. Someone who is not willing to explore how deep can we go in state removal before society crumbles. And that includes assambleary societies, which are a parliamentary state in disguise.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494659303 125333210,125334325,2017-05-13 07:09:06,">>125333555 digits confirm",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494659346 125333210,125334355,2017-05-13 07:09:43,">>125334222 Stay mad statist. PHYSICALLY REMOVE",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494659383 125333210,125334431,2017-05-13 07:11:04,">>125334294 Are you implying society might start to crumble with state removal?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494659464 125333210,125334521,2017-05-13 07:12:42,,,Anonymous,Hoppe quote.jpg,oODt2L5Psj5PFgc04lpqfg==,AU,,1494659562 125333210,125334543,2017-05-13 07:13:05,,,Anonymous,1435583199115.jpg,LoETtAuesRfR8sH1Sf3ltg==,SE,,1494659585 125333210,125334662,2017-05-13 07:15:02,">>125334431 No. Im saying ""we should explore how much can we bend this iron before it breaks"", but my belief is that it will never break.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494659702 125333210,125334805,2017-05-13 07:17:17,">>125334662 Like, someone with an open mind about the state's necessity, someone willing to bend the iron even if he believes it can break, might not be what I'd consider a statist.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494659837 125333210,125334897,2017-05-13 07:19:03,how you gonna defeat the army?,,Anonymous,,,TR,,1494659943 125333210,125335416,2017-05-13 07:28:00,">>125334294 Is a sense of community statist?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494660480 125333210,125335457,2017-05-13 07:28:44,>>125334543,,Anonymous,1487710823336.png,Y/V2kZAvtNEQS5ZiUgyqqg==,LV,,1494660524 125333210,125335532,2017-05-13 07:29:57,">>125335416 The sense that you can force this sense onto others would be.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494660597 125333210,125335562,2017-05-13 07:30:28,">>125334897 Us army is libertarian as fuck, oath keepers will be on our side on the day of the removal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494660628 125333210,125335777,2017-05-13 07:34:11,>>125335457,,Anonymous,1494539507479.gif,M6r3371r1rUljsCE0iYu3Q==,SE,,1494660851 125333210,125335835,2017-05-13 07:35:05,">>125333210 I just want to say ""FUCK YOU"" to all of the anarchobeeps who infiltrated the libertarian movement, because you can't get traction on your own merits, and proceeded to discredit and spoil the marketability of the movement to the public at large. Seriously. I fucking hate you shits.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494660905 125333210,125336013,2017-05-13 07:37:51,">>125335835 What? AnCaps? The Libertarian masterace?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494661071 125333210,125336171,2017-05-13 07:40:13,">>1f2u5c3k3y8o3u5 >d&c bait Im not even going to give you a (((you)))",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494661213 125333210,125336192,2017-05-13 07:40:31,">>125336013 Mostly Ancaps. Yeah. They can just go ahead and kill themselves in penance. Too bad they don't have enough honor to understand why they should. I am a bit more forgiving of paleos because they really just want to go Amish and be left alone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494661231 125333210,125336237,2017-05-13 07:41:14,">>125336171 Oh child. I don't want you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494661274 125333210,125336270,2017-05-13 07:41:37,">>125336192 >Mostly Ancaps What is so bad about AnCaps?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494661297 125333210,125336393,2017-05-13 07:43:19,">>125335562 This.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494661399 125333210,125336483,2017-05-13 07:44:54,">>125336192 I'm a Paleo myself, I know lots of fags take on the position of ancap, but lots of them are leftists that completely reject Rothbards later works because it's too edgy and right wing for them. But as far as I know orthodox AnCaps are pretty cool.",,Anonymous,ancap_andy_lynch.jpg,G9Ifu5NBEH6k9pdhi23Qvw==,US,,1494661494 125333210,125336584,2017-05-13 07:46:25,"Daily reminder that /pol/ is a board of peace, that is why we have to physically remove the communists, socialists and all other left leaning scum.",,Anonymous,1489364267888.jpg,7puA3M00Zwbfmn8Wk4aCzA==,SI,,1494661585 125333210,125336595,2017-05-13 07:46:32,">>125336270 They are coattail riders who discredit and ruin the Libertarian Party, by being utterly unmarketable to the general public. A la Gary Johnson. They are everywhere and everything they say weakens the deployment of the party. I'm thinking they are simply a subversion tactic by the opposition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494661592 125333210,125336620,2017-05-13 07:46:52,"Can I be a Libertarian without wanting to live in a 100% libertarian world? The idea makes a lot of sense to me and I think with the current political structure and society we live in, I always advocate for moving closer and closer to Libertarian values but I don't think a 100% libertarian world would work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494661612 125333210,125336699,2017-05-13 07:47:58,>>125333210,,Anonymous,1494662147002.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,US,,1494661678 125333210,125336739,2017-05-13 07:48:29,">>125336483 I don't dislike them on their own. I despise that they infested the libertarian party.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494661709 125333210,125336853,2017-05-13 07:50:22,">>125336595 Well he will tell you himself, he is not a Libertarian, he is a Republican. Maybe you're onto something.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494661822 125333210,125336952,2017-05-13 07:51:35,,,Anonymous,dont-tread-on-me-or-my-wifes-son-ever-again-2777487.png,pwrWH+zgZzypK684lm3Jlg==,US,,1494661895 125333210,125337161,2017-05-13 07:54:33,">>125336595 How are ancaps discrediting and ruining the libertarian party, what is so unmarketable about anarcho capitalism that libertarians should discard? Are you comparing ancaps to Gary ""bake that fucking cake"" Johnson? ""Weakening my party"" is not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494662073 125333210,125337267,2017-05-13 07:56:15,">>125336620 Yeah that's fine, you're not a ""pure"" Libertarian, but a libertarian still.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494662175 125333210,125337339,2017-05-13 07:57:09,">>125336595 Brah, please. The Libertarian Party is becoming a fucking trainwreck on its own. They don't need to be infiltrated to look like retards. AnCap is the logical conclusion of consistently applying Libertarian ethics. Thin Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,Physic7_2.jpg,97OIXt0svmP78aHC5I1i/w==,NL,,1494662229 125333210,125337433,2017-05-13 07:58:49,">>125336739 What? AnCaps aren't running the libertarian party. They're a bunch of faggot ass left Libertarians larping as Rothbardians. Please don't let the LP spoil Anarcho capitalism for you. No real ancap likes those fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494662329 125333210,125337890,2017-05-13 08:05:05,">>125336595 Hold the fuck on. Are you saying Gary favor Johnson is ancap? Fuck no. Us AnCaps are fighting against those open borders fags. Pic related.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1494662705 125333210,125337947,2017-05-13 08:05:46,">>125337890 >Favor I meant faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494662746 125333210,125338028,2017-05-13 08:06:44,,,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1494662804 125333210,125338252,2017-05-13 08:10:02,">trumpcucks and leftists get outdebated every thread >have to start voicing their opinions as anti-ancap libertarians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494663002 125333210,125338446,2017-05-13 08:12:47,">>125338252 >Tfw pro Trump and PaleoLibertarian Ancap. Feels good to be master race.",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1494663167 125333210,125338632,2017-05-13 08:15:09,">>125336739 The LP killed the libertarian movement back then in the 70's.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494663309 125333210,125339392,2017-05-13 08:25:17,">>125337339 Georgism is the logical conclusion of libertarian ethics",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1494663917 125333210,125339672,2017-05-13 08:29:00,">>125339392 No it's not. Georgism does not seek to prevent conflict over ownership. Rather it creates it. It's not compatible with Property Rights in the Rothbardian sense.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494664140 125333210,125339699,2017-05-13 08:29:23,What's the free-est gun?,,Anonymous,IMG_20170502_132723.jpg,bV1lB5zZbDwdrzGP3F8yWw==,US,,1494664163 125333210,125339799,2017-05-13 08:30:34,">>125339392 Land is a scarce resource and therefore must be owned privately. Air is not scarce unless in special conditions (underwater, in space, in mine shafts...) so there is no real reason for it to be owned privately. Georgism just doesn't make sense. Should food industries not be privately owned because food is a scarce resource? Applying consistently its implied logic to every sector of the economy would lead us to a soviet-style dictatorship. It's just the typical ""I am libertarian but"" objection that arbitrarily rules out land from the laws of economics.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494664234 125333210,125339834,2017-05-13 08:31:09,">>125333665 >Tfw have to drive to the gym >Tfw I have to use government funded ROADS >tfw taxation without representation I don't know if I can even go to the gym anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494664269 125333210,125339965,2017-05-13 08:32:30,">>125339699 >What's the free-est gun? Liberator.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494664350 125333210,125340031,2017-05-13 08:33:24,,,Anonymous,14706672656549.jpg,6CjUZ4WItis6Sxc2fwS7Dg==,FR,,1494664404 125333210,125340052,2017-05-13 08:33:43,">>125333409 Left libertarianism is a contradiction on itself, this place is only for intelligent discussion",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494664423 125333210,125340211,2017-05-13 08:35:49,So in ancapistan who owns space?,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1494664549 125333210,125340271,2017-05-13 08:36:30,">>125339965 Wow, the magic of the free market at work. :^) ain't freedumb great? https://youtu.be/1CjndIiZyJo",,Anonymous,hqdefault (22).jpg,YlM38K1w3yTnXx/Yw3efMQ==,US,,1494664590 125333210,125340388,2017-05-13 08:37:54,">>125333778 go post this shit in an appropriate thread you stupid moron",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494664674 125333210,125340605,2017-05-13 08:40:52,">>125339965 >the liberator Outdated. Another guy made a better one. Here you have the blueprints. Don't blame me if it explodes in ur hands tho.",,Anonymous,washbear.png,ECcrQ1sikYweoBlvFHDqOA==,ES,,1494664852 125333210,125340680,2017-05-13 08:41:59,">>125339699 The jeb bush special Glock.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494664919 125333210,125340800,2017-05-13 08:43:35,">>125340605 >literally a NERFgun-gun Kek. Not bad.",,Anonymous,images (54).jpg,zDD3H77/xY4Um74rUuvvNg==,US,,1494665015 125333210,125340835,2017-05-13 08:43:58,">>125337161 Yeah it is. Fuck you. Come back when you understand natural law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494665038 125333210,125341007,2017-05-13 08:46:19,">>125340605 I know mate, there is actually a lot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D_printed_weapons_and_parts Makes me want to try them all, but it's costly and I would get raped by the law.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494665179 125333210,125341054,2017-05-13 08:46:59,">>125340680 Lel Haven't seen that meme in a looong time",,Anonymous,faa.jpg,RCNrq5vpONKwDKOjknnsxg==,US,,1494665219 125333210,125341282,2017-05-13 08:50:19,">>125339699 9mm, best recoil vs mag size vs stopping power",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494665419 125333210,125341434,2017-05-13 08:52:31,">>125341282 >.40 >best middle ground between 9mm and 45 >45 Stopping power >less recoil than 45 >more ammo than 45 9mm babies btfo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494665551 125333210,125341527,2017-05-13 08:53:38,">>125340835 What does natural law have to do with you dissing ancaps for destroying the LP without providing a single argument as to why or how they're destroying it? It's like you're trying to hide how ignorant you are about anarcho capitalism by not confronting specific ideas and just focusing on ad homs. It's not working tho.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494665618 125333210,125341622,2017-05-13 08:55:05,">>125340835 Uh, I think the people in the LP are the ones who don't understand natural law. Otherwise they wouldn't have voted for Gary.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494665705 125333210,125341733,2017-05-13 08:56:38,"Started reading Anarchy, State and Utopia and shit, Nozick is good. Really enjoying the book and learning something. Going to take some time to finish tough, I read every chapter 3/4 times.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494665798 125333210,125341806,2017-05-13 08:57:40,">>125341434 .40 isn't a bad choice, at least we agree that the .45 is powerful but slow and recoils. These same advantages trickle down to the 9mm too at the slight loss of power from the .40 first hit wins right? recoil, mag size, and accuracy is king.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494665860 125333210,125342013,2017-05-13 09:00:29,">>125341733 I couldn't push myself to read it. And then I read The Ethics of Liberty, in which HHH explains that Nozick became popular because he saw libertarianism as another ""idea"" to reflect upon and not actually be taken seriously, and so the elite and academia threw him a bone to keep the anarchofags like us satisfied.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494666029 125333210,125342260,2017-05-13 09:03:37,">>125340835 Ay, fellow Maltese man. Of topic, who will you be voting for in the upcoming election?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494666217 125333210,125342337,2017-05-13 09:04:35,">>125341054 I wish jeb! was President so his memes would be relevant forever. Truly unlimited meme material with Jeb!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494666275 125333210,125342619,2017-05-13 09:08:04,">>125342013 What really pushed me to read it was his minarchist ideas, since I identify myself as minarchist more than ancap. Even if you think that I would recommend it to you, his argumentation is pretty good and can make you think different about some subjects. Also, a bit unrelated, what's your opinion on the fact that commie parties here in Portugal also want the EU to end?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494666484 125333210,125342628,2017-05-13 09:08:13,">>125341806 >first hit wins Absolutely. But also, say you don't get that chance? Say you miss, or are shooting at a moving target. Life is more difficult than ""yeah, I'll hit it"" it's why I like the .40 compromise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494666493 125333210,125342689,2017-05-13 09:08:53,">>125342260 Hey there, libertarian too? I'm not Maltese, just work and live here, I'm not really invested in Maltese politics, but I assume that there's no option I'd vote for.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494666533 125333210,125342750,2017-05-13 09:09:40,">>125342337 >i wish American were a wasteland filled with 5'2 Mexican trolls and no jobs",,Anonymous,1477536893080.jpg,QOqiENK/M1U1qq6VdxAsmA==,US,,1494666580 125333210,125342919,2017-05-13 09:12:09,">>125342750 Oh yeah, then there's that. Nvm we'll have to leave the memes behind. It's a shame tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494666729 125333210,125342967,2017-05-13 09:12:44,"I need some help committing to pure libertarianism lads, I really agree with free market = free people and capitalism as a system clearly works for making.strong economies, HOWEVER, I feel like placing all the power in corporations hands, even with consumer boycotts and the like we couldn't stop stuff like corporations destroying the environment and then paying people off to keep it hidden. I think some restrictions do need to be enforced on businesses, by a government like system. But maybe you guys can convince me otherwise?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494666764 125333210,125343409,2017-05-13 09:18:31,">>125342967 I'm a world with no """"""public property"""""" there's no public parks to dump your nuclear waste in. The only areas they can destroy will have to be owned by them or a company Devoted to managing waste products. No one will allow a company to dump shit on their private property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494667111 125333210,125343576,2017-05-13 09:20:32,">>125342967 You've got it wrong bro. Corporations wouldn't even be that powerful if not for a regulated market. In a freer market most businesses would operate at a smaller scale, no big Google's or Microsoft's fucking with the consumers.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494667232 125333210,125343588,2017-05-13 09:20:38,">>125342967 Uhm, alright let's see if we can push you. >couldn't stop stuff like corporations destroying the environment Why do you believe that true property rights would not be able to address this? If you take a dump in your corridor I don't care, if you take a dump in your corridor and the smell reaches my house you're generating externalities that are lowering my property value, therefore damaging my property, and you should solve the situation or I should be able to get compensated in case you refuse to do it. >I think some restrictions do need to be enforced on businesses Please be precise in which restrictions you believe so we can address them just like I addressed the pollution/externalities one.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494667238 125333210,125343660,2017-05-13 09:21:39,">>125333210 guys. so what should be the appropriate role for the government ?",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1494667299 125333210,125343836,2017-05-13 09:24:07,">>125342628 >Say you miss thems the breaks. That's why the lower recoil and bigger mag is my card in the hat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494667447 125333210,125343852,2017-05-13 09:24:22,>>125335777,,Anonymous,1492207268591.jpg,fAbvt5J/+vDukLtQa8oN2A==,LV,,1494667462 125333210,125343908,2017-05-13 09:25:09,">>125342919 Hey man, look at it from the bright side. Had Cruz won we would have shitty zodiac killer and DAHNAGLD memes... We have the fucking shitposter in chief in command right now. >Inb4 shills",,Anonymous,IMG_3219.jpg,9Tdsqcp3UVQ8GYDeO6eCwQ==,US,,1494667509 125333210,125343931,2017-05-13 09:25:30,">>125343660 Protecting private property and enforcing contracts.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494667530 125333210,125344005,2017-05-13 09:26:28,">>125343660 disappearing quietly",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494667588 125333210,125344008,2017-05-13 09:26:31,">>125343836 https://youtu.be/bq7iEkQzf8k",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494667591 125333210,125344126,2017-05-13 09:27:52,">>125343908 Hail victory. Shills don't get that in a globalized world Nationalism is a step towards decentralization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494667672 125333210,125344252,2017-05-13 09:29:25,fuck commies my dudes,,^~,sssssh-no-taxes-now.jpg,eRJvmmQKqYQhpJd5Ng9CcQ==,PT,,1494667765 125333210,125344468,2017-05-13 09:32:05,">>125342619 I read his book until Chapter 3, I think, but then let go after I started reading Rothbard. Also, it's a shame that only commies want to get rid of the EU. I hope it just collapses on itself.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494667925 125333210,125344473,2017-05-13 09:32:07,Thoughts on that guy t's new video?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494667927 125333210,125344475,2017-05-13 09:32:07,I'm starting to get the feeling that nobody on this board knows anything about politics,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494667927 125333210,125344546,2017-05-13 09:33:03,">>125344252 This pham Pic related is your future if you allow them to win. Give me death or give me liberty.",,Anonymous,3BB6B4F200000578-0-image-a-22_1483101155805.jpg,lhdmpW5/M0i9kJQ1GwBi0Q==,US,,1494667983 125333210,125344726,2017-05-13 09:35:17,AnCap MASTER RACE,,Anonymous,25c819662df7bb1f0edb158e8eb8c3544fd22b4e8274ea67e724f6237e461a17_1.jpg,p8W5l72E9WB4ZSrm3eXSgg==,BR,,1494668117 125333210,125344978,2017-05-13 09:38:36,">>125344473 Just watched it, he's spot on.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494668316 125333210,125345041,2017-05-13 09:39:23,Is it possible to be a libertarian but also think collectivism is the best type of culture for a society to have?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494668363 125333210,125345256,2017-05-13 09:41:59,">>125345041 It's only cool if you're an ethnostate ancap.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1494668519 125333210,125345372,2017-05-13 09:43:22,When will you guys finally take the real REDpill?,,Anonymous,9a2.png,fST8YgBDfy4iebmfblEtAA==,US,,1494668602 125333210,125345388,2017-05-13 09:43:35,">>125345041 In a libertarian order you could, with your market choices, move towards a community that embraced collectivist values as long as it was voluntary. I always said it, you might believe capitalism is wrong and still be an anarcho capitalist, the only condition for that is that you would not interfere with people who wanted to be capitalist within their property. Anarcho capitalism is the only way you could see pure capitalist societies forming, but it's not necessarily capitalist. Odd concept, I know.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494668615 125333210,125345480,2017-05-13 09:44:45,">>125344726 Paleolib ancap master race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494668685 125333210,125345621,2017-05-13 09:46:21,">>125343588 Hmm, pollution is a global problem though, governments can place restrictions such as CO2 emission limitations on businesses encouraging them to find cleaner ways of producing their products. Whereas in a libertarian world there would be no incentive to use cleaner, but possibly more expensive methods as consumers will likely by the cheapest products. I am not sure if the argument about all property being private owned works either, as CO2 emissions can be scattered far by wind patterns so the pollution occurs globally",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494668781 125333210,125345778,2017-05-13 09:48:06,">>125345372 In France workers Union are fucking up everything and make our situation worse Syndicalism is cancer and should have never existed",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494668886 125333210,125345855,2017-05-13 09:49:02,>>125343852,,Anonymous,no step.png,BmC8GIFTjiapIsLzjXLRKA==,SE,,1494668942 125333210,125345923,2017-05-13 09:49:49,just saw this on kikebook,,^~,make-my-day-hhh.jpg,tgbVnhziycImt8BNTrjHnA==,PT,,1494668989 125333210,125345935,2017-05-13 09:49:57,">>125345256 Well, Ancaps would generate an ethno-space. Each homestead would kill boons invading their property until there are no boons in the area. This may result in a boon free world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494668997 125333210,125346009,2017-05-13 09:50:42,">>125345923 kek",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2016-09-30-18-46-04.png,XnseHNwqOpXefIpqQ9wxZg==,PT,,1494669042 125333210,125346067,2017-05-13 09:51:24,">>125343576 What is the reasoning behind this? What would stop businesses from becoming giant?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494669084 125333210,125346104,2017-05-13 09:51:50,">>125345778 Bourgeois de merde, prends ça!",,Anonymous,e62-9.jpg,YNrnf2XZJNbjx8gcmnxAiA==,US,,1494669110 125333210,125346272,2017-05-13 09:53:43,">>125333210 >libertarian >right pick one you hyper-liberal freedom fetishist faggots.",,Anonymous,4c69d4ee8c746f6d67e6ce49ee571e26615b1fc86ab7aed46f9007bc81195dde.jpg,Z89QzsxoYMMvHOYtQSK8cg==,US,,1494669223 125333210,125346391,2017-05-13 09:55:14,>>125345855,,Anonymous,1479645324035.gif,shcTdA7TdFCw69Ndf2fSGg==,LV,,1494669314 125333210,125346457,2017-05-13 09:55:54,">>125346272 I see you're new around here. Hoppe posting intensifies",,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,US,,1494669354 125333210,125346483,2017-05-13 09:56:16,,,Anonymous,hoppeonconflict.jpg,iHXofNrZpzBu/vI0a0PCwA==,US,,1494669376 125333210,125346513,2017-05-13 09:56:37,,,Anonymous,physicallyremoveed.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,US,,1494669397 125333210,125346537,2017-05-13 09:56:55,,,Anonymous,statist.jpg,zlzXBa0OycDi0fvviZul0A==,US,,1494669415 125333210,125346574,2017-05-13 09:57:13,,,Anonymous,thankswhitey.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,US,,1494669433 125333210,125346597,2017-05-13 09:57:32,,,Anonymous,violewntstate.jpg,YHoaJ4KjeviXRioBAC8agw==,US,,1494669452 125333210,125346614,2017-05-13 09:57:49,">>125346067 There won't be barriers to entry any specific line of production. There won't be minimum wage laws or entitlements that the state mandates companies to do, which fucks over small businesses who can't afford them, so you'll have many millions of more companies and self-employed people competing with each other. Also, I remember reading in the Thomas Sowell Basic Economics book that companies start to be tremendously difficult to manage when they become very big.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494669469 125333210,125346628,2017-05-13 09:58:00,">>125346272 Lol, get a load of this nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494669480 125333210,125346659,2017-05-13 09:58:18,Here comes dat Mises,,Anonymous,herecomdatmises.png,kHvaTQnl+UGEhKH373a5mA==,US,,1494669498 125333210,125346693,2017-05-13 09:58:39,,,Anonymous,Bj8DWcRCQAAuGid.jpg,M1DNKNjlHDlnSa1brLMdGQ==,US,,1494669519 125333210,125346708,2017-05-13 09:58:48,">>125345621 Would you agree with me that more capitalized societies care more about the environment than less capitalized societies? If so, we need to ask ourselves, why? and through that question I found a clear pattern -> Just like in many other fields, wealth leads to optimization of resources. With that perspective, it's easy to see how preventing countries from developing is only stagnating the necessary growth they require to start caring about the environment. If societies weren't able to advance beyond the industrial revolution, today everyone would be burning coal and throwing emissions that would make it impossible to breath, it was thanks to the lack of limitations that we were able to cover people's basic needs, which allowed people to start focusing on other fields, such as the discovery of cleaner alternatives. Once you have food in your place, and only after that, you can begin thinking about clothes, only after you have clothes you can begin thinking about roof, and only after you have all the basic needs covered you can begin giving a shit about the planet. Capitalism speeds up the process of discovering alternatives and allows us to spend more money in saving the planet. If we weren't so rich, we would never be able to afford an electric car, so let's make sure everyone is rich.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494669528 125333210,125346741,2017-05-13 09:59:18,,,Anonymous,misesonspeech.jpg,M8yYVVZA5p74skfnnB2kmg==,US,,1494669558 125333210,125346835,2017-05-13 10:00:30,">>125346457 How would you prevent me from establishing transgender child brothels on my property?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494669630 125333210,125346944,2017-05-13 10:01:48,">>125346708 I just listened to a Rothbard lecture on this topic. Private owners are always better stewards of the environment than a government https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPy9j3vtKCs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494669708 125333210,125346948,2017-05-13 10:01:49,">>125339834 Where we're going, we won't NEED roads.",,Anonymous,IMG_0387.jpg,rHD8vkP7JLK2dUXxDHSuiw==,US,,1494669709 125333210,125346968,2017-05-13 10:02:04,">>125346835 By not selling you what you need. Eventually, anti-social behavior is weed out of society.",,^~,,,PT,,1494669724 125333210,125347009,2017-05-13 10:02:28,">>125346835 Children couldn't be prostitutes. As for transgender brothels, we couldn't. It's your property. Unless you wanted to open one in a space where the landowner did not permit it because it went against the community's values.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494669748 125333210,125347052,2017-05-13 10:02:58,">>125346835 By beating the shit out of you for abusing children.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494669778 125333210,125347234,2017-05-13 10:04:59,>>125346391,,Anonymous,1494540709401.jpg,5t1Uk+hADxIsNOcv/vz3/w==,SE,,1494669899 125333210,125347334,2017-05-13 10:06:08,">>125346968 Fine, there will be plenty of other sick fucks to trade with. >>125347009 >As for transgender brothels, we couldn't. It's your property Exactly, and who are you to violate the NAP and force consenting children not to earn a wage? >>125347052 >fuck the NAP when I want to You faggots are just as lost on human nature as the god damn communists. The world you think you want would be a fucking heroin slum.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494669968 125333210,125347396,2017-05-13 10:06:48,">>125347334 >consenting children kek",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494670008 125333210,125347422,2017-05-13 10:07:00,">>125333210 Capitalism is a worst plague. It overuses natural resources till its all depleted.",,Anonymous,Varg Vikernes.jpg,aHs0XUXwDgW03S4q1fTaRQ==,PL,,1494670020 125333210,125347466,2017-05-13 10:07:33,">>125346835 >Violates NAP of children >Go to private arbitrator to convince you to stop >You won't >obtain community ruling against you >Send in the McSwat Team to remove the children from your custody. >You are assessed damages and expelled from the community. >Resist >be shot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494670053 125333210,125347547,2017-05-13 10:08:39,,,Anonymous,notanothersocialistrodeo.jpg,OWvlFeBZxQ2iCLUL/ReW0A==,US,,1494670119 125333210,125347608,2017-05-13 10:09:13,,,Anonymous,ludwig-von-mises-606864.jpg,1TAyYM8p9heTkScoTSRH1Q==,US,,1494670153 125333210,125347638,2017-05-13 10:09:35,,,Anonymous,hazlit.jpg,Fjxt1tzx69hLSbG8/0ZNSA==,US,,1494670175 125333210,125347696,2017-05-13 10:10:08,,,Anonymous,didn'tsignthat.jpg,maVihqRF6fJRnc2dCtjuNw==,US,,1494670208 125333210,125347781,2017-05-13 10:11:08,,,Anonymous,mmmisesontyrants.jpg,uHNe5/bdy0/yu+n/KlR9Yg==,US,,1494670268 125333210,125347794,2017-05-13 10:11:20,">>125347466 >obtain community ruling against you Oh you mean like community rulings or votes to tax certain people and forcibly take their property? How are you any different at that point? You literally just described a raid on someone's home for not paying taxes. You're a hypocrite. >>125347396 On what objective material basis are you asserting that children can't consent?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494670280 125333210,125347910,2017-05-13 10:12:47,">>125347794 I'm not going to explain you why children can't be property. You came up with the old ""child brothel"" """"""argument"""""" which just shows to me you're just trying to be a smartass and nothing I could explain would convince you otherwise. Go look in the archives.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494670367 125333210,125348109,2017-05-13 10:14:48,">>125347794 >Live in voluntary community >Community has rules >You violate those rules by abusing children >get removed >be ass blasted you can't actually be a deviant in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494670488 125333210,125348254,2017-05-13 10:16:34,">>125347334 >Fuck the nap >I just want to rape children What part of child abuse do you consider Libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494670594 125333210,125348269,2017-05-13 10:16:47,">>125347794 https://mises.org/library/children-and-rights",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494670607 125333210,125348349,2017-05-13 10:17:34,">>125346272 Get redpilled by a based black guy. https://youtu.be/l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494670654 125333210,125348414,2017-05-13 10:18:12,,,Anonymous,Lew-Rockwell-wrong-for-one-wrong-for-all.jpg,w3B/KQe6zphXEoNO1BlLKg==,US,,1494670692 125333210,125348452,2017-05-13 10:18:39,,,Anonymous,lewylewylewy.jpg,Z2SuJdfDniRKQwPkOeJ8tA==,US,,1494670719 125333210,125348515,2017-05-13 10:19:19,,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,QohK4xkwv7OjvTtlRu1HNA==,US,,1494670759 125333210,125348583,2017-05-13 10:19:58,,,Anonymous,rothbradtaxes.jpg,fvM+ntAxcVlyq379XrOXjg==,US,,1494670798 125333210,125348664,2017-05-13 10:20:54,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1494670854 125333210,125348697,2017-05-13 10:21:13,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1494670873 125333210,125348734,2017-05-13 10:21:32,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1494670892 125333210,125348763,2017-05-13 10:21:52,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1494670912 125333210,125348808,2017-05-13 10:22:18,>captcha: roads,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1494670938 125333210,125348812,2017-05-13 10:22:20,">>125348109 I'm simply pointing out that you're not ancapistan with any rules of any kind. I am not free in your community. Whats the difference between you and statists other than you don't call your authority a state?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494670940 125333210,125348837,2017-05-13 10:22:38,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1494670958 125333210,125348853,2017-05-13 10:22:45,">>125346614 Hmm, I have heard about companies becoming unmanageable, I suppose you are right about the minimum wage so long as smaller companies are actually able to get a foot in the market, as these big businesses own huge percentages of the market share",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494670965 125333210,125348943,2017-05-13 10:23:51,">>125348664 Memes aside I am reading his book at the moment and the further I get the more I am beginning to agree with him. Which is terrifying because I used to have a lot of confidence in a limited state as put forth by the framers of our constitution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671031 125333210,125348979,2017-05-13 10:24:10,">>125333210 Hates government. wants to create violent private government to oppress people. staring to think your all just frustrated idiots",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671050 125333210,125348994,2017-05-13 10:24:17,">>125339834 >I 'NEED' to 'DRIVE' to the 'GYM' Jesus fucking christ burgers.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494671057 125333210,125349099,2017-05-13 10:25:19,"Most corporate conglomerates get state subsidies and the like. At this point, companies like Wal-Mart, Lockheed Martin, the big pharmas and the other companies that fund wars and state schemes can be called part of the state, and must be physically removed as well.",,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1494671119 125333210,125349232,2017-05-13 10:26:47,">>125349099 Meant for >>125348853 >>125348943 What chapter are you on? Which part is terrifying you the most? Was ""the monarchies were the lesser evil guys in World War 1"" red pill hurt?",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1494671207 125333210,125349270,2017-05-13 10:27:11,">>125348994 >gym is 4 miles away >yes goy, go ahead, run 4 fucking miles and squat 250lbs. It's good for you ;^) you won't be tired, I swear.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671231 125333210,125349274,2017-05-13 10:27:10,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1494671230 125333210,125349296,2017-05-13 10:27:26,">>125346708 Yes, that is very true as being prosperous gives you the chance to care about the environment, but at the same time it is big western companies that have shifted labour to China to cut costs and caused the environmental problems in the first place, do you think there would be some method to prevent this if we went full libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494671246 125333210,125349302,2017-05-13 10:27:31,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1494671251 125333210,125349339,2017-05-13 10:27:51,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1494671271 125333210,125349346,2017-05-13 10:27:55,">>125348979 >wants to create violent private government to oppress people Great argument. Just say ""YOU WANT BAD THINGS!!!!!!1111!!"" and you'll be sure to understand what's going on. Ok buddy.",,^~,,,PT,,1494671275 125333210,125349369,2017-05-13 10:28:10,">>125349099 The digits don't lie. You are correct that the companies get subsusides from the state and use its laws to help guarantee themselves an unfair position in the market. Its becomes difficult to blame capitalism for the evils of corporations when that behavior only exists because it is enabled by a state that is being run by temporary stewards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671290 125333210,125349377,2017-05-13 10:28:17,">>125346944 Thanks, I'll give it a listen later tonight",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494671297 125333210,125349385,2017-05-13 10:28:25,,,Anonymous,pitchfork populist.png,30Bw2/pQ5Pc0vphAdsk1sA==,PT,,1494671305 125333210,125349442,2017-05-13 10:29:00,,,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1494671340 125333210,125349481,2017-05-13 10:29:27,">>125337890 so what your saying is you want less government because you hate anyone who dosn't look or think exactly like you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671367 125333210,125349489,2017-05-13 10:29:33,,,Anonymous,hoppe expulsion.png,MYXxcYpUYsv/VE/vI3UFRw==,PT,,1494671373 125333210,125349518,2017-05-13 10:29:54,,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1494671394 125333210,125349536,2017-05-13 10:30:08,">arguing about the labor theory of value >point out how it asserts that a more processed item must always be more valuable than its constituent parts, which is obviously untrue >""just don't ever make something that people want less than it's components"" that's it guys... they convinced me... I'm a Marxist now",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494671408 125333210,125349548,2017-05-13 10:30:13,,,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,PT,,1494671413 125333210,125349623,2017-05-13 10:30:56,,,Anonymous,great austrian minds.png,V6MFunytZh+SZ158PI780w==,PT,,1494671456 125333210,125349646,2017-05-13 10:31:06,">use collectivized authoritative force >I'm not a statist tho how are you not a statist? >because I don't call it that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671466 125333210,125349660,2017-05-13 10:31:14,">>125349232 >Was ""the monarchies were the lesser evil guys in World War 1"" red pill hurt? Yes because that conflicts with some long term ideas about the roll of government in my mind and how it should be run. I grew up reading stuff the federalist. Suddenly the ideal that I believed it looked like a well intended mistake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671474 125333210,125349662,2017-05-13 10:31:16,,,Anonymous,hoppe masses.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,PT,,1494671476 125333210,125349735,2017-05-13 10:31:57,">>125349481 >so what your saying >says something complete opposite of what is in the picture 2nd time in this thread by this ID. Think before you post, moron.",,^~,,,PT,,1494671517 125333210,125349745,2017-05-13 10:32:07,">>125349270 >Burger says he has to 'RUN' 4 miles to gym >burger doesn't realise the invention of wheel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncQsBzI-JHc But I can't use drive thru on my way home",,Anonymous,download (43).jpg,mSyfUZAI81bN8WMFiLYu9A==,AU,,1494671527 125333210,125349878,2017-05-13 10:33:29,">>125349660 So I guess you're in that part where he talks about how constitutions are still state constitutions and no matter how many failsafes people put they will always be circumvented... You're in a for a big shock when he compares the type of wars conducted by kings as opposed to wars conducted by democrats. To me that was the biggest red pill.",,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1494671609 125333210,125350044,2017-05-13 10:35:08,">>125349745 >bicycle race Top fucking Kek, shitposting award goes to you. I don't have space for a bike, but u could probably just get a ""disposable"" used one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671708 125333210,125350253,2017-05-13 10:36:54,,,Anonymous,moldbug.jpg,yoPFLATPMy9Q6IpQnyqN2w==,PT,,1494671814 125333210,125350329,2017-05-13 10:37:33,">>125339799 but how can you resolve any model of private ownership with the ability to naturally acquire property via use. there is a clear difference between mere ownership of land and the use of that land to produce value. Therefor land is not owned, it is used as a limited but replenish able resource. your only right to any area of land is your ability to use it to create or enhance value. Anything else is squatting for profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671853 125333210,125350396,2017-05-13 10:38:06,">>125333210 Let's do the road exercise again, like last time: >Schlomo builds a road from point A to B. >It's currently the only one, so he can charge an outrageous price. >Bob briefly considers competing with Schlomo, but then figures that he's better off building a road from C to D and pulling a Schlomo. >Eventually (after a decade of ripping off Ancapistanis) road companies run out of profitable new road endpoints, so they're forced to ""compete"" with eachother. >Jeff comes along and tries to compete with Schlomo by building a parallel road and offering fairer tolls >Schlomo responds by lowering his prices to a point where Jeff's newer and weaker company cannot compete >Schlomo offers Jeff an alternative: collusion. They both charge outrageous prices and make good profits. This is perfectly legal in Ancapistan. >Ancapistanis continue to get ripped off Your ideology is literally debunked by roads.",,Anonymous,when-theres-roads.jpg,I0kQRlWf7CBXSYyy1QLdXA==,IL,,1494671886 125333210,125350621,2017-05-13 10:39:58,"hypothetically speaking what if there is only one road available to a certain space and no other roads can be built by competing market forces because of geography. What happens if the roadlord who is in charge of maintaining the road and collecting the road tax(NAP friendly tax that all parties agreed to) from clients Just decides to stop maintaining the road? The contract does not require him to maintain the road.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494671998 125333210,125350670,2017-05-13 10:40:36,">>125350253 OK, this is just herecy.",,Anonymous,the_greatest_primarch_looks_at_you_with_mild_disapproval.jpg,4CkD0f/9pB4V1UgUn9pTzw==,US,,1494672036 125333210,125350759,2017-05-13 10:41:23,">>125349296 I'm just saying, we cannot control other countries, we cannot tell them that they can't do now what we did 100 years ago, that wealth will lead them to caring more about the environment and therefore we should just let them go through the steps we went, even if that means accepting we're going to have uncivilized brutes in the world tormenting our youtube feeds. I believe that libertarianism would be capable of generating communities/cities that guaranteed the products sold within their markets were 100% green/ecologic, and that, as a market choice, people would be able to live there. Now, about local scale pollution, libertarianism certainly offers solutions, as I explained before. I believe if I was exposed to decide which set of rules I'd like to live by, I'd choose a community that charged money for circulating with a motor vehicle within the limits of the property to cover for their externalities, communities should care about the quality of their air to avoid property devaluation.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494672083 125333210,125350803,2017-05-13 10:41:53,">>125333210 Jefferson could use your help, Liberty for the forgotten Californians. Lawsuit filed. Rally at the state capitol May 31st.",,Anonymous,soj51.png,OUvKJRulKVibaLSqIu8I0w==,US,,1494672113 125333210,125350827,2017-05-13 10:42:07,">>125350396 Oy vey, Delet this Actually, can someone more versed in libertarian logic and economics debunk this. Im wondering the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494672127 125333210,125350877,2017-05-13 10:42:30,">>125350396 Why would people/ transport companies use such a road in the first place? Also, it is more profitable if everyone can pay for using the road. Markets tend to want to serve as many people as possible because that's where the profit is.",,^~,,,PT,,1494672150 125333210,125351051,2017-05-13 10:44:16,">>125350621 >stops maintaining the road >customers complain and he loses business >incentivized to start caring for the road again >doesn't >goes bankrupt >road is auctioned off to someone who actually wants to make money off of it >they buy it >road is restored, some businesses even spring on the side and sign contracts with the road owner to build access ways to them >everyone lives happily ever after. Although I kid you not, in AnCapistan people would already have flying cars by now.",,Anonymous,1488739999641.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1494672256 125333210,125351069,2017-05-13 10:44:23,">>125350877 >Also, it is more profitable if everyone can pay for using the road. There is a balance to strike. It can very well be more profitable to rip off 50% of the population than charge reasonable prices from 90%. Without market competition, this balance will rarely be in your favor.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494672263 125333210,125351216,2017-05-13 10:45:40,">>125350877 >Why would people/ transport companies use such a road in the first place? Because they need to get from point A to point B and it's either the only one, or the parallel one isn't any better because the companies have agreed to synchronize prices in a way that benefits them both more than competition.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494672340 125333210,125351247,2017-05-13 10:45:56,">>125350396 >Roads become prohibitively expensive >Communities start developing vertically to avoid car usage >People stop using cars and start flying around >Roads are forced to become cheap again",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494672356 125333210,125351385,2017-05-13 10:47:17,">>125350827 >in a free market a service would cost more want more >in the free markets we see prices tend to stabilize into the actual cost of the product+ profit for the seller One is a post in 4chan by an Isreali, the other is the reality. >>125351051 fucking this >>125351069 >Without market competition, this balance will rarely be in your favor. >>125351216 >it's either the only one, or the parallel one You keep assuming roads are a special thing and that there isn't competition for them in a free market. Which is false.",,^~,,,PT,,1494672437 125333210,125351445,2017-05-13 10:47:49,">>125351247 >Communities start developing vertically to avoid car usage >People stop using cars and start flying around Yeah, good luck getting ripped off for half a century before that happens.",,Anonymous,1476540933228.jpg,4BXzQ8zVzMatMyRK5KmeUg==,IL,,1494672469 125333210,125351534,2017-05-13 10:48:29,,,Anonymous,ancap03.png,KKN/fZKj59+/JKeKT3l4VA==,DE,,1494672509 125333210,125351545,2017-05-13 10:48:37,">>125351385 >You keep assuming roads are a special thing and that there isn't competition for them in a free market. What's the existing competition in the free market for roads?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494672517 125333210,125351654,2017-05-13 10:49:49,"What is role of the country for you guys? I would say laws and enforcing those laws and basic infrastructure, social gibs are fine as long as the person 100% is not capable of work.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1494672589 125333210,125351732,2017-05-13 10:50:25,">>125336595 >putting party above policy",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1494672625 125333210,125351772,2017-05-13 10:50:43,">>125351654 Minarchists will say enforcement of contracts, property protection and military. Anarcho-capitalists like myself will say government is to be dismembered and its services provided by private companies just like any other product.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494672643 125333210,125351788,2017-05-13 10:50:49,">>125346597 but wouldnt forced removal of commies require a state also?",,Anonymous,1494424172657.jpg,DIPClpab/CrLjGN4Z4d97w==,PT,,1494672649 125333210,125351826,2017-05-13 10:51:06,">>125351534 The McDonalds rent a baby policy says you can have your baby back so long as you buy a cheeseburger every time you go and turn off adlbocker when visiting McDonalds.com",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494672666 125333210,125351851,2017-05-13 10:51:21,">>125351788 see >>125349489",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494672681 125333210,125351861,2017-05-13 10:51:28,">>125351445 >Half a century Are you claiming that if I could figure out a solution to a major issue of dependency within 10 seconds of activating my brain almonds, a smarter businessman than me with resources will take 50 years to figure it out? I mean, I appreciate the compliment, but I don't think it's deserved.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494672688 125333210,125351999,2017-05-13 10:52:46,">>125351545 >existing competition Of course, there is none because of state intervention. The state has created a huge barrier to entry the market, as such as stealing 50% of your wealth to pay for things such as roads. To compete in a road market now, people would have to pay for roads twice, the private they want to use and the public they're forced to pay. Also *BRRRAAAAAAAPPPP* on your face.",,^~,1491687812584.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1494672766 125333210,125352070,2017-05-13 10:53:24,Ok so I just saw in a video that 89% of Venetians wanted to secede from Italy and were denied. I'm so triggered right now.,,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1494672804 125333210,125352108,2017-05-13 10:53:47,">>125351861 >if I could figure out a solution But you didn't figure out any solution. Yelling ""vertical communities"" and ""flying cars"" doesn't solve any of the massive engineering challenges required to make this function on a large scale like the road system.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494672827 125333210,125352278,2017-05-13 10:55:23,">>125333688 >Ron Paul is a statist kill yourself, he literally mentions the NAP, Lysander Spooner, taxation being theft, and voluntarism constantly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494672923 125333210,125352348,2017-05-13 10:56:01,">>125335562 you srs anon?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494672961 125333210,125352359,2017-05-13 10:56:07,">>125351051 You misread. there are no other roads and no other alternatives can be built due to the geography of the area. If the road leads to the only water source within miles what would happen? If the customers boycott the business they boycott their livelihoods and since the roadlord has no available competition he has no incentive to maintain the road and compete in the free market. The only available course of action is for the clients to forcefully take ownership of the road but that would violate the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494672967 125333210,125352406,2017-05-13 10:56:34,">>125351999 >Of course, there is none So your entire argument is this: >I don't have a realistic solution, but let's just dive in and see what happens. I'm sure we'll figure it out! And I'm sure you're right. People will figure it out... eventually. The question is, why should anyone want to bother with this if they can just continue paying the government to maintain the roads? >stealing 50% of your wealth to pay for things such as roads But you know that's not where all that money goes, not even close.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494672994 125333210,125352414,2017-05-13 10:56:39,">>125352070 >tfw no independent Veneto :'( feels bad mane I love Venice and their history so much and to think they would be so much better off. >>125352108 What he's saying is that there is an ENORMOUS demand for transportation platform and therefore there would be tons of competition.",,^~,moço.png,uNKKOGSYTu2Y2foX4fEjjQ==,PT,,1494672999 125333210,125352504,2017-05-13 10:57:30,Guys. How do we kill Keynesian economics dominating the world for far too long?,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494673050 125333210,125352558,2017-05-13 10:58:00,">>125352406 That's literally nothing like what I said. What I said was to explain to you why there is no existing market competition of roads.",,^~,,,PT,,1494673080 125333210,125352674,2017-05-13 10:59:07,">>125346104 the french elite is anti-free market",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494673147 125333210,125352702,2017-05-13 10:59:26,">>125352108 What I'm saying is that the maximum price of a scarce resource is limited by the minimum price of the next best alternative. This is a market principle and applies everywhere. If roads became expensive, then it would open the door for less optimal alternatives, which means roads price have a maximum that cannot be surpassed.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494673166 125333210,125352746,2017-05-13 10:59:49,">>125352414 >there is an ENORMOUS demand for transportation platform and therefore there would be tons of competition This is just vague ""market will fix this"" talk. I'm asking you for a concrete solution before I get on board with this idea of ditching public road maintenance. People need to eat somehow until the market fixes this problem.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494673189 125333210,125352854,2017-05-13 11:00:54,">>125350396 >then because lf the collusion, all alternatives raise in demand >this drives their prices down, changes preferences, changes technology and resource access >the faggot then says ""well then why doesn't everyone collude"" >then the society is built in collusion in which prices do not reflect the actual value of goods and services >it collapses Good riddance. In a decentralized society, if part of society fails then everyone just assimilates into the more stable structures.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494673254 125333210,125352864,2017-05-13 11:01:00,"Truck and car producers pay a pro-rata road levy, per vehicle and tonnage. Owners could be also be respectively taxed yearly",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494673260 125333210,125352876,2017-05-13 11:01:06,">>125350396 >>125351069 >>125351216 >>125351445 >>125351545 >(((You)))",,Anonymous,Jude.gif,orM+agDR/rC0f9ByIL3wSA==,NL,,1494673266 125333210,125352903,2017-05-13 11:01:21,">>125352108 And no, building vertically or flying cars are not massive engineering challenges, a massive city could be build within a year.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494673281 125333210,125352904,2017-05-13 11:01:22,">>125352702 >the maximum price of a scarce resource is limited by the minimum price of the next best alternative. Sure, but so far you have not offered any concrete ""next best alternative"". You just keep chanting ""flying cars"" and ""market magic"".",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494673282 125333210,125352980,2017-05-13 11:02:10,">>125352108 >>125352406 >>125352746 >>125352904 >(((You)))",,Anonymous,Jude!.gif,GuE11qfPVoSvKpjrcUu12A==,NL,,1494673330 125333210,125353019,2017-05-13 11:02:38,">>125352903 >building vertically or flying cars [on a huge scale] are not massive engineering challenges https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494673358 125333210,125353044,2017-05-13 11:02:48,>tfw listening to leftist bands and enjoying it,,Anonymous,66c.jpg,jrWHF63ivq5OrF02Au998g==,PL,,1494673368 125333210,125353186,2017-05-13 11:04:09,">>125352558 >What I said was to explain to you why there is no existing market competition of roads Irrelevant. You've admitted that there is no currently existing alternative, and nobody in their right mind is going to ditch roads BEFORE an alternative is figured out.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494673449 125333210,125353193,2017-05-13 11:04:13,">>125352359 He would be seen as massive asshole and people would eventually band together and figure out a new way of accessing point B and their water until they could buy the road from the owner. ""To forcefully take ownership"" is not the only solution. If the free market could not handle this situation, I'd like to see a state try. >>125352414 >tfw no North Portugal secession >tfw no Porto city-state >tfw no Basque secession >>125352504 A society built on a erroneous economic model eventually implodes when states can no longer delay the collapse by printing more money and throwing sand in people's eyes. Hoppe and some other Austrians are warning that the next crisis will hit harder than 2008. We can only hope it triggers massive secession movements worldwide.",,Anonymous,free good hoppe.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1494673453 125333210,125353224,2017-05-13 11:04:32,">>125352746 > I'm asking you for a concrete solution Did people know how would plains work before they were invented? Did they know how automated factories would work? No, they didn't for millions of examples. People figure shit out and very quickly and very well and there's a demand for it.",,^~,,,PT,,1494673472 125333210,125353267,2017-05-13 11:04:51,">>125353186 >(((You)))",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494673491 125333210,125353312,2017-05-13 11:05:13,">>125333210 >tfw PMC >tfw living the ANCAP dream why is /pol/ a bunch of neo nazi statist dick suckers now guys?",,Anonymous,Triple-canopy-2.jpg,9HpKqliCq97ht2gReGlVng==,AF,,1494673513 125333210,125353429,2017-05-13 11:06:24,">>125353186 >there is no currently existing alternative There's no need for an alternative we already have fucking roads. The central point is roads would be better managed privately ya fucking dumbass. Jesus, I thought Jews were smart.",,^~,,,PT,,1494673584 125333210,125353445,2017-05-13 11:06:32,">>125353224 >Did people know how would plains work before they were invented >Did they know how automated factories would work? No, but they were not reliant on them. We are currently reliant on roads, and you are not providing any reasonable alternative until the market comes up with new solutions. There's no rational reason for people to agree with you that we should ditch public roads. It's pure ideological dogma.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494673592 125333210,125353530,2017-05-13 11:07:12,">>125353312 they think that the solution from anti-racist tyranny is even more tyranny also how's the opium trade going ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494673632 125333210,125353542,2017-05-13 11:07:21,">>125336192 historically, most paleos were an-caps you dipshit. >>125336483 yes, lots of libertarians are cucks >>125336853 Gary Johnson definitely doesn't call himself a Republican >>125337433 this >>125338632 more like 1988",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494673641 125333210,125353566,2017-05-13 11:07:36,">>125353044 I can't listen to leftist bands anymore. System of a downs, rage against the machine, all pure cringe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494673656 125333210,125353624,2017-05-13 11:08:11,">>125353566 I cringe when I hear ""Imagine"" by John Lennon. fuck commies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494673691 125333210,125353681,2017-05-13 11:08:37,">>125353429 >There's no need for an alternative we already have fucking roads. The central point is roads would be better managed privately We've already gone through this. ""Managed privately"" means Ancapistanis getting ripped off for decades until the market figures out massive-scale alternatives.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494673717 125333210,125353774,2017-05-13 11:09:28,">>125348812 You are not free to violate the rights of children therefore you are not free?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494673768 125333210,125353790,2017-05-13 11:09:37,">>125353624 Holy shit yes. I listen to classic rock radio at work and sometimes they play that and Green day and I want to kill myself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494673777 125333210,125353792,2017-05-13 11:09:39,">>125353530 i hate statists so much. business is booming my friend, goddamn US government won't let us guard poppy fields, apparently only THEY (ISAF) are allowed to do that",,Anonymous,1480787358779.jpg,+t1G+lLtpGfIZxLXnRd+4A==,AF,,1494673779 125333210,125354077,2017-05-13 11:12:11,">>125353681 >decades until the market figures out massive-scale alternatives I'll repeat myself again. The point is not an alternative to roads, is better management in the private sector. Of course when there is private management better products and services arise at a lower price.",,^~,,,PT,,1494673931 125333210,125354202,2017-05-13 11:13:22,">>125353624 It's a horrible naive song although people usually post this video to counter this but I'm not sure about that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoC83orA4ys About the other bands to me it's the only thing I can consider guilty pleasure. But they can't change their opinions even if they wanted because that became their brand.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494674002 125333210,125354238,2017-05-13 11:13:40,"anyone else >Southern >Paleolibertarian/conservative >An-cap master race?",,Anonymous,1494518418757.jpg,ZfXvfCWXMkoAlivBlSHxAA==,US,,1494674020 125333210,125354240,2017-05-13 11:13:40,">>125352746 I believe your problem is how you envision a transition to anarcho capitalism. I think that you believe constructors will somehow offer property in places that cannot be accessed or that people will buy houses in places that depend exclusively on one road alternative, and this is already a wrong approach. A transition to anarcho capitalism would lead to private cities, these private cities would take care of providing roads that you could use in exchange for your purchase of the property. A private city that fails to have alternatives to abusive roads will lose property value quickly, which means city owners will have incentives towards making sure their cities are well connected. Thinking that city owners will just be careless and let roads rip their citizens off, devaluing their property, because they didn't think preemptively that not having alternatives to the mobility was not a good idea is naive and says little about your knowledge in business.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494674020 125333210,125354242,2017-05-13 11:13:41,">>125354077 >The point is not an alternative to roads, is better management in the private sector. I repeat: ""better managed"" means ""massive ripoff"", because there will be no market competition. I've already explained why, and you have not addressed it.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494674021 125333210,125354457,2017-05-13 11:15:28,">>125354238 Yes, and I'm not even American. I get sad when I realize I'll never blast Sweet Home Alabama from the speakers while hog hunting in an SUV with an AR-15. Such is life in Poortugal.",,Anonymous,hoppe-sanglasses.jpg,xPYHlnJ8Byb5vByoB1jjBA==,PT,,1494674128 125333210,125354574,2017-05-13 11:16:26,">>125354238 well instead I am an aristocrat descendant does it count ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494674186 125333210,125354596,2017-05-13 11:16:38,">>125354238 Fuck I wish. Unfortunately I was born a northfag. I will move down south tho. But yes, I'm Paleo and mean.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494674198 125333210,125354606,2017-05-13 11:16:41,">>125354202 >But by the time he died, John Lennon was a closet conservative embarrassed by his radical past, according to his former personal assistant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494674201 125333210,125354644,2017-05-13 11:17:07,">>125354240 >I think that you believe constructors will somehow offer property in places that cannot be accessed Everything will be equally ""hard to access"" because there's nothing stopping road companies from avoiding competition and ripping you off. >A transition to anarcho capitalism would lead to private cities, these private cities would take care of providing roads Providing their own country-wide road system, or do you think every private city is going to be its own self-sustained economy?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494674227 125333210,125354760,2017-05-13 11:18:13,">>125354457 shiiiieeeeettttttttt. how did you even find out about Southern culture? that's pretty cool. how old are you? why not come to university in America, or find an American wife and move to the South?",,Anonymous,1494525900813.jpg,db+aWImRRkbqmsE+dGsNKw==,US,,1494674293 125333210,125354862,2017-05-13 11:19:06,">>125354242 >because there will be no market competition I repeat: Huge demand creates huge competition. >>125354457 >tfw no gun culture in this country can't wait to move >>125354644 >Providing their own country-wide road system >there is no interest to provide cross countries transportation platforms for profit",,^~,,,PT,,1494674346 125333210,125355029,2017-05-13 11:20:47,">>125354862 >I repeat: Huge demand creates huge competition I've already debunked this claim. >there is no interest to provide cross countries transportation platforms for profit Yes, they'll all make a very good profit by ripping you off, because there's no rational reason for them not to. You're just blatantly ignoring the argument at this point because you can't address it in any way. Keep chanting your little ideological mantras.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494674447 125333210,125355050,2017-05-13 11:20:57,">>125354574 >French flag nope, you have to move to South Louisiana >>125354596 were your ancestors Linconites? guessing you grew up rural up North? I've heard that there culture is pretty much Southern culture. where you thinking about going?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494674457 125333210,125355267,2017-05-13 11:23:10,"Opinions on Negative Income Tax, /lrg/?",,Anonymous,13620044_1242733992452067_1028729659230234193_n.jpg,e2VgaTJqvqysp8yvtf1VPA==,GB,,1494674590 125333210,125355310,2017-05-13 11:23:30,">>125354644 I think they will have contractual relationships to make sure their citizens won't be ripped off and they will make sure they have alternatives in place. But even in the extreme case that business owners were total retards, okay, I will entertain the idea, say you have the road and I was careless and you manage to create a cartel, what stops me, owner of McCities, with way more resources than a simply road pleb, from buying the other road and ruining you in the process?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494674610 125333210,125355373,2017-05-13 11:24:04,">>125355267 this is /lrg/ not /llg/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494674644 125333210,125355528,2017-05-13 11:25:30,">>125354242 Do keep in mind that this entire debate did form from your hypothetical which isn't observed in the real world. In your hypothetical two companies joined together and charged really high prices thus they cut the actual market share down to 25% on each road. I think it is more realistic to assume they would compete to lower prices as then each roads market share would come much closer to 50%. Pepsi and coke technically have a monopoly on their drinks due to recipe copyrights, you don't see them combine and charge £100 a litre(p.s I know food /= roads but still we don't often see companies come together and raise prices rather than compete to gain market share) Same goes for oil companies who choose to battle for market share rather than form together and raise prices, its almost like supply and demand works",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494674730 125333210,125355533,2017-05-13 11:25:31,">>125355310 >I think they will have contractual relationships to make sure their citizens won't be ripped off and they will make sure they have alternatives in place. So basically, they're going to do the same thing the state does, but it's ""a private city"" so it's somehow different?",,Anonymous,wat.jpg,dEXjin8OfLtmUinHmvBqcA==,IL,,1494674731 125333210,125355562,2017-05-13 11:25:45,">>125352746 >>125354240 If the state were to dissolve its interest in roads to private interests there are a few ways I can conceive of it going. The first way I think would be best to distribute shares of ownership in the road to those who have paid property taxes into it. The owners of the road could then create a corporate entity to deal with the maintenance and revenue collection for the road and distribute profits accordingly. This keeps the maintenance of the road competitive and the quality of the road beholden to the will of the shareholders. At some point I can see the shares being consolidated perhaps by local businesses and subsidised such that they are free to travel so people will be more likely to patronize a place that is free to travel to rather than one that is not. I can see a situation in which a buses and light rail services are set up to also make it easier for people to get to local businesses. Some companies already provide busing services for their own employees it wouldn't be stretch to think that these same businesses wouldn't be willing to charge a nominal fee for additional ridership.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494674745 125333210,125355680,2017-05-13 11:27:01,">>125355029 >I've already debunked this claim. You didn't and you can't you delusional Jew. Demand always and will always create competition. You keep saying there would be no competition when in a free market competition is always the natural way. The free market never creates monopolies.",,^~,,,PT,,1494674821 125333210,125355749,2017-05-13 11:27:39,">>125355310 >say you have the road and I was careless and you manage to create a cartel, what stops me, owner of McCities, with way more resources than a simply road pleb, from buying the other road and ruining you in the process? If you're the owner of McCities, changes are that you're a good businessman, so when you buy the other road you'll ask yourself how to make the most money out of it, which will lead you to the conclusion that you can make more money by joining the road cartel.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494674859 125333210,125355842,2017-05-13 11:28:35,">>125355533 Yes, because a private city has a contractual obligation subjected to third party arbitration with their tenants, and it's in their interest to make sure their cities value grows or at least it's maintained throughout the years. >>125355749 And I will lose my market to Cities King. Seriously man...think before you post.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494674915 125333210,125355919,2017-05-13 11:29:12,">>125354760 I grew up watching Americana movies (westerns, Clint Eastwood movies) and always had an interest in American history and exceptionalism. Then I found bands like Lynyrd Skynyrd, Eagles, Night Ranger, artists like Johnny Cash and Elvis Presley, and then after becoming a Libertarian I realized that the Confederates had every right to secede and form their own country. A few years ago I'd have gone to college there but thank God I didn't because it's expensive as hell and I don't want to spend a lot of money now. Best I can hope is indeed to find an American woman to marry, and then move to a white suburb in Texas with a shitload of guns.",,Anonymous,1293623-1.jpg,zGDxaE9nc/zJabg+7ToANQ==,PT,,1494674952 125333210,125355935,2017-05-13 11:29:24,">>125355528 >Do keep in mind that this entire debate did form from your hypothetical which isn't observed in the real world. > In your hypothetical two companies joined together and charged really high prices So you're denying the existence and profitability of cartels. Stopped reading right there.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494674964 125333210,125356121,2017-05-13 11:31:19,">>125355919 >A few years ago I'd have gone to college there but thank God I didn't because it's expensive as hell It's not very expensive. It gives you a good advantage imo.",,^~,,,PT,,1494675079 125333210,125356309,2017-05-13 11:33:09,">>125355842 >because a private city has a contractual obligation subjected to third party arbitration with their tenants Oh, you mean like how the state has a contractual obligation subjected to third party arbitration to maintain the roads? >And I will lose my market to Cities King. Right, because Cities King and McCities are not part of a cartel themselves.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494675189 125333210,125356388,2017-05-13 11:33:58,">>125356121 It costs dozens of thousands of dollars a year, plus having to find a stay. I couldn't afford it. Might as well do the undergrad here and then do a Master's or MBA there. I'm not really interested in becoming rich, just want to live a cozy life and dedicate my free time to red pilling the normies on the state.",,Anonymous,5247235648_511c4cf280_o-L.jpg,TwWynBc/LQ/l9oUHUaPSWQ==,PT,,1494675238 125333210,125356449,2017-05-13 11:34:31,,,Anonymous,1485903281724.png,SH3ikeDGIAFfnwhZXQ5Vug==,US,,1494675271 125333210,125356474,2017-05-13 11:34:42,">>125355050 No I'm both a cityfag and come from German/Italian immigrant family. I have no business larping as a Dixie boy. I wanna go to Kentucky, it's a nice rural area to farm/homestead and isn't to far from family. I just think think the Confederacy was right, and all around based.",,Anonymous,ancap_andy_commies_matt_furie.png,NN7furIBj4aVxZ0usDFpFQ==,US,,1494675282 125333210,125356491,2017-05-13 11:34:53,,,Anonymous,based_friedman.jpg,CNVYyoJhJJ+t0obYk1fKSQ==,US,,1494675293 125333210,125356643,2017-05-13 11:36:28,,,Anonymous,1489244678938.jpg,T2u2ye2cHduqpbGKxXYKOA==,US,,1494675388 125333210,125356650,2017-05-13 11:36:31,">>125355935 Free markets don't form cartels when people are free to trade. Cartels arise when people need to trade under the table, such as drugs. >>125356388 Yes, I was saying it's not very expensive here in Portugal. And it gives you a clear advantage you choose a good degree.",,^~,,,PT,,1494675391 125333210,125356771,2017-05-13 11:37:40,">>125356309 >Oh, you mean like how the state has a contractual obligation subjected to third party arbitration to maintain the roads? No, they have a contractual obligation subjected to themselves. And if you don't like it, expropriation. >Right, because Cities King and McCities are not part of a cartel themselves. Way less scarce market than the one of roads, way harder to cartelize, way less incentives to keep the cartel. Why aren't apple and windows a cartel? Simply, because both want what the other has, and a cartel would only damage them.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494675460 125333210,125356919,2017-05-13 11:39:01,">>125356650 >Free markets don't form cartels >the rich and powerful won't collude when it's perfectly legal and serves their economic interests",,Anonymous,wtf.jpg,svjMeYVCj3c0m1L77u0rig==,IL,,1494675541 125333210,125356991,2017-05-13 11:39:45,">>125356491 Milton is fine but I have a soft spot for Mises ever since I read the full text of his lecture in Argentina about history of capitalism while on the way to work. Isn't it annoying that so many anti-proggressives consider themselves classical liberals like him and Hayek while still labeling themselves part of the left? Hayek made it clear why he wasn't a conservative but there really isn't anything that would make him left wing.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494675585 125333210,125357123,2017-05-13 11:40:59,">>125333210 Are kikes welcome in a lolbergtarian society",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494675659 125333210,125357125,2017-05-13 11:41:00,">>125355919 just go to a cheap college if you can, there are plenty, it will give you some time to find a women, unless you can find one when traveling or in Europe. (though the kind of women who goes to Europe may not want to live in Texas) I live in what would be called an old money rich white suburb (more of a bubble) in Texas and man I hate it. of course the community and everything is great but anytime you leave the bubble the reality that you live in a 25% white city hits you and it doesn't feel good. without a job it would be nice but you will have to go into the city to work and it sucks. I think it's best living either 30 minutes out of a city in a small town or just miles out of the city in a rural place with some land. when SHTF you will be able to defend your land assuming you stocked up on food. but I disgress. I think Texas is slowly getting fucked and the best option is to move to a Southern state like Mississippi. if you are deadset on living the Western lifestyle Oklahoma seems like a more conservative Texas. good luck bud.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494675660 125333210,125357312,2017-05-13 11:42:59,">>125357125 Thanks senpai. Best of luck to you too.",,Anonymous,hoppe secessionism.png,oIrCczKEYERrjVyeunvHKg==,PT,,1494675779 125333210,125357328,2017-05-13 11:43:08,">>125356771 >they have a contractual obligation subjected to themselves >what are separate branches of government >Way less scarce market than the one of roads, way harder to cartelize, way less incentives to keep the cartel. Are you trying to imply that more people will have the massive wealth to own cities than those who will have the wealth to own roads? >Why aren't apple and windows a cartel? Because they're too much in the spotlight for the kind of open collusion that will be legal and common in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494675788 125333210,125357486,2017-05-13 11:44:44,">>125357312 Neat I didn't even know I had the same verbal tic as Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494675884 125333210,125357638,2017-05-13 11:46:12,">>125356474 >No I'm both a cityfag and come from German/Italian immigrant family. well I'm pretty much a city bubble fag, but my ancestors all fought for the Confederacy and I have a lot of rural family (for example my grandfather is a cowboy) so I know the rural life somewhat honestly the fact that you are a German/Italian immigrant is definitely better than if you came from a long line of yankees. if I were going that far north I would probably look into Western Maryland but I have heard that south Kentucky is Southern still. plus they have Rand Paul as a senator. good luck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494675972 125333210,125357701,2017-05-13 11:46:48,">>125357328 Schlomo, a road is just fucking tar and a share of the profits to the landowners. Almost everyone with small sums of money could compete in that market. C'mon go try your tricks somewhere else for fuck's sake.",,^~,,,PT,,1494676008 125333210,125357734,2017-05-13 11:47:06,">>125357123 Only if they limit they're jewery to their item kind, which they can't. So no probably not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676026 125333210,125357771,2017-05-13 11:47:27,">>125356991 Hayek considered himself beyond left and right wing, I would think. Mises is the real red pill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676047 125333210,125357858,2017-05-13 11:48:22,">>125357638 Right on brother. Fuck commies, the south shall rise again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676102 125333210,125357895,2017-05-13 11:48:48,">>125356919 It doesn't serve their economic interest. There's always one company having an edge over the others who will break the cartel and take the whole market. Why would I need to collude with an inferior company when I can just take over the market? >>125357328 >what are separate branches of government A meme >Are you trying to imply that more people will have the massive wealth to own cities than those who will have the wealth to own roads? Roads require massive wealth? >Because they're too much in the spotlight for the kind of open collusion that will be legal and common in Ancapistan. Why would windows let apple keep their share of the market if they have a superior product? How do you keep two ambitious companies contempt in their current status? Seriously, all this conversation would end faster if you just provided a single example of what you claim that wasn't rooted in limitation of competition by government regulations.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494676128 125333210,125357914,2017-05-13 11:49:00,">>125357123 well, if a libertarian society developed it probably would not be in Israel. you would have to find a community that would let you in. so you would have to conform to their views. now, kike or descendant of kikes? if I was sure that you were a Christian man I would probably let you in mine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676140 125333210,125357956,2017-05-13 11:49:29,">>125357701 > Almost everyone with small sums of money could compete in that market. And yet I've already explained how to easily form a road cartel, and you are unable to address it, no matter how many times I challenge you. And now your friend is trying to tell me that a handful of massively rich people who own cities can't come together and find some arrangements for their mutual benefit (and at the cost of everyone else). You don't seem to realize that the world is already Ancapistan behind the scenes.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494676169 125333210,125357999,2017-05-13 11:49:52,">>125357771 It annoys me when people say that they ""generally disagree"" with people like Ben Shapiro and in reality they only disagree with his spiritual beliefs. Maybe this is how they define left?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494676192 125333210,125358030,2017-05-13 11:50:17,">>125357312 >8. University of Iowa: Birthplace of the renowned Iowa Writer's Workshop and boasting one of the nation's largest academic medical centers, the University of Iowa in Iowa City has more than 4,000 international students on campus, which make up 9 percent of the student body. Of these, more than 70 percent are from Asia. Average tuition, minus grants and scholarships, is $9,411.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676217 125333210,125358063,2017-05-13 11:50:35,">>125357486 so to speak?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676235 125333210,125358236,2017-05-13 11:52:10,">>125357999 anybody who has Ben Shapiro's views on most things and claims they are on the left is a retard. honestly I'm not even sure I know what left and right mean anymore desu senpai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676330 125333210,125358246,2017-05-13 11:52:14,">>125357895 >Why would I need to collude with an inferior company when I can just take over the market? Based Maltese anon refutes all jewry ""arguments"" >>125357956 Because of Malta anon has just said. I would start my own road and make my own money without joining the cartel, not share profits with them lol. Anyone who offers low prices would have an instant advantage and the cartel would starve in a week. ITS JUST TAR YOU MORON",,^~,,,PT,,1494676334 125333210,125358274,2017-05-13 11:52:33,">>125358063 When you want to be gentle while persuading people.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494676353 125333210,125358417,2017-05-13 11:53:56,">>125357895 >cartels don't happen! lower prices serve the economic interests of the rich! Maybe you should read up on some basic history before you open your mouth? >Roads require massive wealth? No, and yet it's possible to form a road cartel like I've shown. And now you're trying to sell me the idea that a handful of massively rich people who own cities can't come together and find some arrangements for their mutual benefit. >Why would windows let apple keep their share of the market if they have a superior product? Neither one of them has a superior product. Both produce crap. But in Ancapistan, they would get together and drive prices up as much as they can, because why not?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494676436 125333210,125358434,2017-05-13 11:54:05,">>125358274 that's not a word tick, just something Germans and Austrians always fucking say for some reason",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676445 125333210,125358444,2017-05-13 11:54:10,"https://mises.org/blog/milton-friedman-debunked-%E2%80%94-econometricians MI just retweeted this. Interesting.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494676450 125333210,125358477,2017-05-13 11:54:27,">>125358434 shit just realized you're a Pole",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676467 125333210,125358567,2017-05-13 11:55:19,">>125358434 That's ok I'm 1/8 German.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494676519 125333210,125358620,2017-05-13 11:55:57,">>125358567 me too, maybe that's why I say it as well. but I swear the only other people I've heard do it are Germans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676557 125333210,125358635,2017-05-13 11:56:06,">>125356919 You haven't proven it serves their economic interests though, oil much like roads are essential to modern day living, so why if it is so economically viable haven't oil companies worked together to raise prices, and instead competed to gain market share?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494676566 125333210,125358682,2017-05-13 11:56:36,">>125358246 >I would start my own road and make my own money without joining the cartel The road cartel has a lot more resources, so they can lower the prices for the path you want to compete for until you're driven out of business, then tell you that you can either join the cartel and face financial death. This is literally explained in my first post. Why are you so intellectually handicapped? You have the memory of a fish.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494676596 125333210,125358702,2017-05-13 11:56:52,"for the Confederate bros: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kWADI4umuM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494676612 125333210,125358794,2017-05-13 11:57:44,">>125358635 >you haven't proven that the mega-rich form cartels You're just denying history at this point.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494676664 125333210,125358814,2017-05-13 11:57:56,all ancaps should be moved to a desert island where there is no government so they can LARP there as much as they want.,,Anonymous,,,RS,,1494676676 125333210,125359016,2017-05-13 11:59:39,">>125358417 >Maybe you should read up on some basic history before you open your mouth? Why don't you enlighten me, certainly you're willing to write a lot, one single example of successful cartelization not generated by government intervention would shut my mouth. >No, and yet it's possible to form a road cartel like I've shown. And now you're trying to sell me the idea that a handful of massively rich people who own cities can't come together and find some arrangements for their mutual benefit. No, i'm trying to paint a few of the thousand of reasons as to why a road cartel is not a good idea. >Neither one of them has a superior product. I think that their CEOs would disagree with this sentiment. It only takes one of the two CEOs to believe he can take over the market without a need to share shit with the other. >But in Ancapistan, they would get together and drive prices up as much as they can, because why not? Because it's more profitable to take over a market thank to share it. Only companies willing to form a cartel are those who are afraid of losing.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494676779 125333210,125359038,2017-05-13 11:59:53,">>125358814 say no more senpai",,Anonymous,BurjKhalifa7.jpg,bjTtXjt3ezTe1pPTDOjAEw==,PT,,1494676793 125333210,125359136,2017-05-13 12:00:53,">>125358814 Where can we sign?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494676853 125333210,125359258,2017-05-13 12:02:11,">>125359136 get a goddamn boat and find a goddamn island, is it really that complicated?",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1494676931 125333210,125359316,2017-05-13 12:02:50,">>125359136 desert island where there is no government? Yeah it is.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494676970 125333210,125359573,2017-05-13 12:05:28,">>125359258 Already on it senpai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTcr--Z8460 https://www.seasteading.org/",,Anonymous,Seasteading-From-DeltaSync-Blimp-min.png,nExuSKOeYtI8kGiyYc6FGQ==,PT,,1494677128 125333210,125359596,2017-05-13 12:05:45,">>125357914 I'm a descendant",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494677145 125333210,125359732,2017-05-13 12:07:11,">>125359016 >Why don't you enlighten me >one single example of successful cartelization not generated by government intervention Because I knew this would be your tactic. No matter how many examples I bring, you will yell (without any solid logic or evidence) that it wouldn't have happened without government. >i'm trying to paint a few of the thousand of reasons as to why a road cartel is not a good idea. You have not given a single one so far except ""the rich never collude without government"". >It only takes one of the two CEOs to believe he can take over the market without a need to share shit with the other. And yet you are literally denying reality, because neither one of them is driving the other out of the market because they can't. What they CAN do (in Ancapistan) is drive the prices up together instead. If one of them decides to suddenly lower prices, the other one can do the same so nobody wins anything from competition, >Because it's more profitable to take over a market thank to share it Your entire fucking ideology relies on the idea that they can't succeed in taking over the market (because this would create a disastrous monopoly) and here you are trying to sell everyone the idea that every CEO will believe that he can win this game and become a permanent monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494677231 125333210,125359767,2017-05-13 12:07:34,">>125355267 It's a welfare program, and like every other welfare program is inherently dysgenic.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494677254 125333210,125360323,2017-05-13 12:13:04,,,Anonymous,ancap-andy4.png,REnYNt/y6ktiql3a1CcH7w==,CA,,1494677584 125333210,125360424,2017-05-13 12:14:05,"This man is the reason the marxist school of ""economics"" is no longer represented in academia. Press $ to pay respects.",,Anonymous,mises consumers capitalism.jpg,qlh1coHVojus87HqqH/dcw==,ES,,1494677645 125333210,125360432,2017-05-13 12:14:08,,,Anonymous,hoppewave 1.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,CA,,1494677648 125333210,125360505,2017-05-13 12:15:00,">>125360432 aww yeahh",,Anonymous,hoppewave 3.png,FlwzgsdnBAUB3ACvAepaUA==,PT,,1494677700 125333210,125360508,2017-05-13 12:15:02,,,Anonymous,ancap-andy-children.png,0b389cO67IR6gqIsc5mQdA==,CA,,1494677702 125333210,125360601,2017-05-13 12:15:49,someone make new bread plox,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494677749 125333210,125360701,2017-05-13 12:16:51,">>125360601 okey anon, wait",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494677811 125360894,125360894,2017-05-13 12:18:41,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Praise Be Upon Mises Edition,Anonymous,7b1c7afab1a929d598a745f86dc08cef5021f7532cdceb22c985e99a347a7ff7.jpg,R/8seEsEBVhCQLdyP3nreQ==,ES,,1494677921 125360894,125361104,2017-05-13 12:20:39,"Daily reminder that this guy single handedly obliterated the marxist school of ""economics"" out of existence. Press $ to pay respects.",,Anonymous,mises homie.jpg,ElK0cdHPhLsSCk1t3JbNnA==,ES,,1494678039 125360894,125361472,2017-05-13 12:24:30,">>125361104 $ Fuck commies, god bless America. Hail Mises, hail Rothbard, hail Hoppe.",,Anonymous,AncapAndy_0.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,US,,1494678270 125360894,125361711,2017-05-13 12:26:42,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfseABMnwTc first for Dixie",,Anonymous,don-t-tread-on-me-confederate-flag-3-x-5-1.jpg,R5UhtC+lZRG9OGE1kSQzXw==,PT,,1494678402 125360894,125361888,2017-05-13 12:28:24,">>125361711 God bless Dixieland.",,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1494678504 125360894,125362074,2017-05-13 12:30:04,"Based Joe Quirk on JRE explaining floating cities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpBLqm2nYf8",,Anonymous,Seasteading-From-DeltaSync-Blimp-min.png,nExuSKOeYtI8kGiyYc6FGQ==,PT,,1494678604 125360894,125362448,2017-05-13 12:33:33,Koreans fending off the niggers and looters in the great LA chimpout of '92. Good times.,,Anonymous,la riots 2.jpg,mwMuKZzuADkkTbKP9tKl1w==,PT,,1494678813 125360894,125362483,2017-05-13 12:33:55,,,Anonymous,la riots.jpg,fWCJRZOY1BydEqgLf2EIIQ==,PT,,1494678835 125360894,125362501,2017-05-13 12:34:06,">>125361472 You do realize that you are hailing jews?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494678846 125360894,125362539,2017-05-13 12:34:29,,,Anonymous,rarest Hoppe.png,jcW2kw2VYjBTtZ35LyMwDQ==,PT,,1494678869 125360894,125362737,2017-05-13 12:36:28,A reminder :^),,Anonymous,1483823572018.png,NQQg+Z8qAGHU+3OZ3fAbPg==,LT,,1494678988 125360894,125362830,2017-05-13 12:37:26,">>125362501 Hoppe isn't Jewish Rothbard is an honorary white Mises is totally Jewish tho (as far as I know he doesn't have any claim to be an honorary white) but he's not a Zionist, globalist, or communist so it's alright.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494679046 125360894,125362936,2017-05-13 12:38:30,">>125362501 You do realize that you're a hive-minded idiot who would dismiss any refutation of marxism if a Jew made it?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494679110 125360894,125363031,2017-05-13 12:39:17,">>125362737 Eat shit. Ben is /ourguy/ and will Purge you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494679157 125360894,125363064,2017-05-13 12:39:31,>>125362737,,Anonymous,1492000492580.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1494679171 125360894,125363288,2017-05-13 12:41:35,,,Anonymous,ancap reading.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,PT,,1494679295 125360894,125363532,2017-05-13 12:43:49,">>125363031 >>125363064 :^)",,Anonymous,1481355323357.jpg,LcAfXJeo1nU/GmuXmYRJrw==,LT,,1494679429 125360894,125363656,2017-05-13 12:45:01,">>125363532 How do you do fellow libertarians how about them pinochetcopters amirite? jajajajajajaja no but seriously the left has gone too far and so i am a fascist now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494679501 125360894,125363658,2017-05-13 12:45:02,">>125360894 Daily reminder an cap and libertarianism will not work unless the jewish problem is solved",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494679502 125360894,125363811,2017-05-13 12:46:23,">>125363658 That's why it's ok to purge the (((bankers))) and other (((thieves))) because they violated the NAP",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494679583 125360894,125363918,2017-05-13 12:47:25,">>125363656 I hear you. NAP doesn't apply to self proclaimed NAP violators.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494679645 125360894,125364140,2017-05-13 12:49:33,">>125363658 then let's solve the problem first ? if we get rid of the (((central banks))) and (((Marxists))) we would solve 90% of the JQ",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494679773 125360894,125364978,2017-05-13 12:57:25,Reminder that Libertarianism is inclusive and that we love everyone here. Say no to hate.,,Anonymous,jeffrey_tucker.jpg,kyCXU7+NM+E6OAA6X0+VPw==,US,,1494680245 125360894,125365058,2017-05-13 12:58:15,">>125363658 The Jewish problem is perpetuated with the permission of the state. (((Banker))) bailouts is one one example",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494680295 125360894,125365127,2017-05-13 12:58:54,">>125360894 (((roads)))",,Anonymous,when-theres-roads.jpg,I0kQRlWf7CBXSYyy1QLdXA==,IL,,1494680334 125360894,125365292,2017-05-13 13:00:17,,,Anonymous,beautiful-statist-road.jpg,2Knu5RQvBbo4KR3WIO3EfA==,IL,,1494680417 125360894,125365365,2017-05-13 13:01:00,>average ancapistan road,,Anonymous,ancapistan-road.jpg,stS8z8mCED16L33vE+HLfw==,IL,,1494680460 125360894,125365461,2017-05-13 13:01:51,,,Anonymous,ancap-road.jpg,aOCA8QjqoBb37pDpIhVBfg==,IL,,1494680511 125360894,125365748,2017-05-13 13:04:18,"Anyone has read this one? This is like babby's first book on libertarianism, but it does an amazing job at dismantling pretty much every objection to capitalism and explains the causes of its vilification. This one of the books that have swayed more people to be a little more tolerant and open minded regards free trade and private property. Whenever someone asks me for a book from Mises I direct them to this one. It'd be worth to keep one or two in physical format to lend or give away to people I know. >>125364978 He's a nu-ancap. He sold to the SJW's long ago, or so I've been told, and became Jeffrey Cucker.",,Anonymous,anticap mentality.jpg,Ky8plfq0LDGcyhcU+qtvjQ==,ES,,1494680658 125360894,125365994,2017-05-13 13:06:43,"So that German guy Titus Gebel (the one creating the Free Private Cities project) will be speaking at this year's PFS. And Hoppe will talk about ""Libertarianism and the Alt-Right."" September can't come any sooner.",,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1494680803 125360894,125366008,2017-05-13 13:06:49,">>125365127 >>125365292 >>125365365 >>125365461",,Anonymous,1451007205912.png,1Pbzr0Op8Rbo5QS4Kl8iwQ==,US,,1494680809 125360894,125366092,2017-05-13 13:07:41,>>125366008,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,Zt/MQ6WBsO+eeBOyXWQsWg==,IL,,1494680861 125360894,125366162,2017-05-13 13:08:19,">>125365127 >>125365292 >>125365365 >>125365461 hmmmm... really made me goy >>125366092 greatest jew that ever lived.",,Anonymous,2ce9206b593c8e0e5bedda6c4d39aba886c75e61ffe91ca2fedabbdfdd244806.png,KklBKEs7jbjLdEnsWqKoag==,ES,,1494680899 125360894,125366275,2017-05-13 13:09:13,">>125366008 Make him proud, goy.",,Anonymous,friedman.jpg,bZUYBc80gt6t/pYrfQcCpw==,IL,,1494680953 125360894,125366358,2017-05-13 13:09:59,">>125365748 >Nu-ancap Perfect term. I've been trying to find the right word for these fags. Best I could do was ""nihlio Libertarian"" a term Rothbard used.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494680999 125360894,125366412,2017-05-13 13:10:31,">>125366162 >#ImWithHer",,Anonymous,Ayn_Rand.jpg,8L7eqfr1pC0l+D0jkKXrew==,IL,,1494681031 125360894,125366575,2017-05-13 13:11:48,">>125365365 >>125365461 Looks like Canada",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494681108 125360894,125366684,2017-05-13 13:12:48,">>125366575 >bad roads >dudeweed You're half-way there.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494681168 125360894,125366842,2017-05-13 13:14:13,">>125366684 >bad weed >dude roads You're already there",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494681253 125360894,125367011,2017-05-13 13:15:44,">>125366842 eyyy",,Anonymous,wrum.png,ZxtZuY5HcwUpKx3/0LxDPA==,US,,1494681344 125360894,125367115,2017-05-13 13:16:43,">>125367011 Don't meme on me",,Anonymous,43254634424.jpg,U+oa1nCXowjocgEjX9oWcA==,CA,,1494681403 125360894,125367190,2017-05-13 13:17:27,">>125366412 She was pretty based, I'm not gonna lie. Her ethics have changed the lives of many people and given them purpose and her works of fiction have been read by millions. She was a success by pretty much every standard and spear headed the movement for freedom after the opressing levels of post-WW2 statism. She called the parasitic bureaucrats and central planner politicians like nobody did. She was a bit inconsistent on how taxation was supposed to work in a minarchist society, though, and hated ancaps with a passion despite of his brand of small gov minarchism being the closest there was to ancapism in her time. If only the left or mainstream right had people of her stature...",,Anonymous,348e096fc812db3e41d0ce281b30a30b1d1e5118eedf93cd6e2702879ba8e78d.png,3m+qJF8zZYcE4C6R8mUTQA==,ES,,1494681447 125360894,125367309,2017-05-13 13:18:27,">>125366684 >a welfare recipient of American tax dollars objecting to the notion that ""taxation is theft"" big surprise",,Anonymous,1444499546835.png,Y1CaFygQqmgcNATcHrJSHw==,US,,1494681507 125360894,125367458,2017-05-13 13:19:45,">>125366092 Reminder that Rothbard literally wanted to starve babies for fun",,Anonymous,1439064055104.jpg,6Unin7sD0CHmuq3bDi99nQ==,GB,,1494681585 125360894,125367583,2017-05-13 13:20:52,">>125367309 >objecting to the notion that ""taxation is theft"" I actually don't. I'm just poking fun at your market-magic meme ideology. It's just your version of ""government will fix it"".",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494681652 125360894,125367824,2017-05-13 13:23:03,">>125367190 The point is that no matter if I defend or criticize your positions (and I've done plenty of both on different points), I get accused of being a scheming Jew. I find that endlessly funny.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494681783 125360894,125367882,2017-05-13 13:23:35,">>125367583 EDGY D G Y",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494681815 125360894,125367909,2017-05-13 13:23:51,">>125367583 Prove taxation is not theft, jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494681831 125360894,125367923,2017-05-13 13:24:00,">>125367824 Naturally.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494681840 125360894,125368047,2017-05-13 13:25:00,">>125367583 >government will fix it Anarcho-capitalism : the crazy notion that i should fix it J U S T I N S A N E",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494681900 125360894,125368074,2017-05-13 13:25:12,"Additional useful links I've found: https://www.rand.org/ https://www.cato.org/ https://www.lp.org/ https://www.aynrand.org/ https://www.seasteading.org/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494681912 125360894,125368111,2017-05-13 13:25:28,">>125367115 is this that politicompass everyone and their mother's asshole has been prolapsing about",,Anonymous,autismus the great.png,fQ+aYSoVpTGEK3mRTsDn0Q==,US,,1494681928 125360894,125368316,2017-05-13 13:27:00,">>125368074 https://mises.org/ Forgot this one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494682020 125360894,125368346,2017-05-13 13:27:10,">>125368111 >filename checked >digits checked >mother's asshole prolapsing checked",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494682030 125360894,125368416,2017-05-13 13:27:36,">>125367909 >Prove taxation is not theft, jew. Okay. ""Theft"" implies a lack of awareness and cooperation on part of the victim, so that's not a good fit. You could say ""robbery"", but that would imply a more immediate physical threat. I think the closest word would be ""racket"" or ""extortion"".",,Anonymous,merc1.png,Vh1sIxoO+OVLdFdJUKiO6Q==,IL,,1494682056 125360894,125368524,2017-05-13 13:28:41,">>125368047 >Anarcho-capitalism : the crazy notion that i should fix it If only. Unfortunately, your actual notion is ""market will fix it"".",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494682121 125360894,125368799,2017-05-13 13:30:48,">>125368416 People should not be forced to pay taxes, but if they don't, they don't get the benefits the government has to offer. So, basically the government should have to outbid the private sector in order to compete for services just like anything else unless they are the only option. The only difference would be that you pay taxes instead of paying a fee.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494682248 125360894,125368962,2017-05-13 13:32:07,">>125368524 Aren't we the market?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494682327 125360894,125369008,2017-05-13 13:32:28,">>125368416 I agree. However, extortion is still theft. Extortion is theft by force. Theft can be forced or unforced however. Exotortion is a subset of a type of theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494682348 125360894,125369130,2017-05-13 13:33:28,">>125368524 Market = people freely coming together to work/trade mutually consenting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494682408 125360894,125369288,2017-05-13 13:34:36,">>125368799 >People should not be forced to pay taxes, but if they don't, they don't get the benefits the government has to offer. Fine by me. It just irks me when people delude themselves into believing that there won't exist a rich elite in Ancapistan that will collude to promote its own agendas just like there is one now. You'd need an extremely vigilant and organized population to exercise its economic power and punish people who work to undermine public interest, but all you have is people yelling ""muh markets! it's impossible because competition!"".",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494682476 125360894,125369345,2017-05-13 13:34:58,">>125365058 >implying Hoppe is not aware of the JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYPAvT-3Fvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuq1gu2CEm8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bylr1ZCIJN0",,Anonymous,2980222219_f296d2659f_b.jpg,F0T9fkAJrZT1ewk/xlq3dQ==,NL,,1494682498 125360894,125369546,2017-05-13 13:36:29,">>125368962 >Aren't we the market? But that's exactly the point that most of you don't seem to get. The people are the market, but the average person is a mindless consumer. Such a market can't fix anything.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494682589 125360894,125369720,2017-05-13 13:37:44,">>125369288 We need rich people and rich people need us. When the rich get richer under free markets, the entire populance standard of living is lifted because the rich are serving the needs of the poor. Rich people in socialidt countries stole their wealth. Look at hugo chavez's daughter. She is a billionaire from stealing venezulas riches for herself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494682664 125360894,125369959,2017-05-13 13:39:42,">>125369546 Wrongo. Ever see a ""guess the number of m&ms in this container"" game? The best possible guess is by averaging everyone's guess. This is what is happening in the markets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494682782 125360894,125370012,2017-05-13 13:40:08,">>125369546 Yes Goyim. Gib power and shekels to the government. Unlike you they are rational people.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494682808 125360894,125370092,2017-05-13 13:40:56,">>125369720 >when the rich get richer under free markets, the entire populance standard of living is lifted because the rich are serving the needs of the poor. Who's going to stop the rich from abusing their power when most of the population tells himself that it will sort itself out thanks to market magic like you're doing right now?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494682856 125360894,125370315,2017-05-13 13:42:40,">>125369959 >makes vague claims that don't address anything Keep illustrating my point.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494682960 125360894,125370540,2017-05-13 13:44:45,">>125370092 In ancapistan? Private security forces who enforce the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683085 125360894,125370616,2017-05-13 13:45:21,">>125370012 >muh jews This is the /pol/ brainlet's response to anything that challenges its delusions in any way. Maybe if you actually read the thread, you'll see that I'm not in favor of the delusion that the government will fix anything using your shekels either. I see ""muh government"" and ""muh market"" as two sides of the same shekel.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494683121 125360894,125370620,2017-05-13 13:45:26,">>125370315 >Straw manning with a simplistic ""the market will fix it"" which no libertarian ever says without follow up arguments as to how >Complains about vague points",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494683126 125360894,125370631,2017-05-13 13:45:31,">>125370315 You should learn about stochastic methods.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683131 125360894,125370661,2017-05-13 13:45:49,">>125369546 Tell that to united airlines. They pissed off the normies and they have to tread on egg shells and give extra incentive for passengers who get pulled off of flights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683149 125360894,125370714,2017-05-13 13:46:13,">>125370540 >Private security forces who enforce the NAP. They don't have to violate the NAP to abuse their power and form media cartels to brainwash people, for example.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494683173 125360894,125370915,2017-05-13 13:47:45,">>125370714 Cartels and monopolies form with government protection",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683265 125360894,125370931,2017-05-13 13:47:55,">>125370616 He framed it around jewery but you completely avoided the point. There's a gang that tells you they can spend your money better than you. And that it's for your benefit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683275 125360894,125370973,2017-05-13 13:48:14,">>125370620 You're the retard from the previous thread, aren't you? He is literally spewing vague ""market will fix it"" rhetoric. E.g: >>125370631 Now fuck off. You are extremely boring.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494683294 125360894,125371097,2017-05-13 13:49:18,">>125370714 And did you seriously just say governments are here to protect us against media brainwashing? Since when has government done this? They push propoganda harder than the media",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683358 125360894,125371117,2017-05-13 13:49:27,">>125360894 AnCap will never work as companies will always make highly ethical but immortal choices revolving around profit. While the state should not be in charge of morality it is the states job to protect its citizens. Limited government is nessecary and inevitable. There is no point in human history where humans gathered and government didn't form.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683367 125360894,125371125,2017-05-13 13:49:33,">>125370931 >you completely avoided the point. Why is it that ancaps literally cannot read? Every single one of you does this... I didn't avoid his point. I agree with his point. The post you're responding to says this.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494683373 125360894,125371274,2017-05-13 13:50:55,">>125370973 >Oy vey! I'v been beat!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683455 125360894,125371431,2017-05-13 13:52:27,">>125371097 >And did you seriously just say governments are here to protect us against media brainwashing? I literally did not say or imply it at any point. Ancaps just can't read.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494683547 125360894,125371435,2017-05-13 13:52:28,">>125371117 Corporations are only possible with government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683548 125360894,125371564,2017-05-13 13:53:43,">>125370973 Happy to see me are you? >Now fuck off. You are extremely boring. If you don't want your bullshit to be called out don't come into out threads with your shit arguments. >>125370973 Oh, his point was vague, but you're spewing simplistic straw men, which is what I said. You literally have no right to complain.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494683623 125360894,125371590,2017-05-13 13:53:58,">>125367824 Hey I kinda envy that flag of yours because I do something similar. Sometimes I roleplay as a pedo just to trigger the stormies. An endless stream of free (You)'s. Works every single time. Since they're so easy to bait they're kinda low hanging fruit so it isn't really that fun after some time.",,Anonymous,hebeshitpost.png,bQl6p9GJmKXMF2sXNHpgsw==,ES,,1494683638 125360894,125371683,2017-05-13 13:54:44,">>125371431 You most assuredly implied it, as you implied it was a problem with not having a state, so some state would be needed. Are you for a state/government or not?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683684 125360894,125371684,2017-05-13 13:54:45,">>125370661 >cherrypicking Yeah, you can form an angry mob when you have a simplistic and graphic story to tell (""poor Asian guy kicked out of plane"") and yet companies routinely get away with much more sinister stuff because it's too subtle for the average consumer to dig into and care.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494683685 125360894,125371801,2017-05-13 13:55:57,">>125371125 >Muh government >Muh markets And your point is >Muh spooks I get it. So why bother with politics? Just smoke some weed and chill dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683757 125360894,125371855,2017-05-13 13:56:24,">>125371564 > you're spewing simplistic straw men, which is what I said If it's a simplistic strawman, why are your buddies failing to correct me and instead opt to confirm my simplistic strawmen using making vague non-arguments? This ""strawman"" is based on my experience of dealing with your lot.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494683784 125360894,125372183,2017-05-13 13:59:02,">>125369288 >You'd need an extremely vigilant and organized population to exercise its economic power and punish people who work to undermine public interest Usually, the people as a whole get educated by actual experience with the consequences of dealing with their own poor choices and if they can't do that and continue their madness, then they deserve it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494683942 125360894,125372187,2017-05-13 13:59:04,"Guys stop it with the butthurt. When two people are arguing without agreeing on the meaning of the concepts they use all discussion is pointless since they will be misrepresenting each other's points all the time. Just chill.",,Anonymous,018.jpg.png,67iYgJtK6l5qluroXok4+Q==,ES,,1494683944 125360894,125372192,2017-05-13 13:59:05,">>125371855 Because I could just as easily dismiss all your posts as a ""oy vey, sheckels"", and it would be just as disingenuous as your straw man arguments from ""your experience"" with libertarians. If you want to criticize ancaps don't fucking use the tired ""market magic"" like if actual read ancaps used that as a standalone argument.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494683945 125360894,125372284,2017-05-13 13:59:58,So many portuguese libertarians here... I wonder why Antonio Costa was elected...,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494683998 125360894,125372367,2017-05-13 14:00:41,">>125365127 >>125365292 >>125365365 >>125365461 >The crowning achievement of big government is expensive flat ribbons of asphalt. That's worth half of my money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494684041 125360894,125372391,2017-05-13 14:00:52,">>125371683 >as you implied it was a problem with not having a state You're falsely claiming that I said it was a problem inherent to not having a state when in fact it was just an example of how the rich can abuse their power without violating the NAP. It clearly exists regardless of the state.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494684052 125360894,125372563,2017-05-13 14:02:26,">>125372391 See >>125370915",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494684146 125360894,125372592,2017-05-13 14:02:42,">>125372391 Media brainwashing is only relevant when there's democracy. As democracy's becomes more invasive, media power grows.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494684162 125360894,125372596,2017-05-13 14:02:43,">>125372192 >If you want to criticize ancaps don't fucking use the tired ""market magic"" like if actual read ancaps used that as a standalone argument. I made some detailed arguments in the previous threads which you did not adequately address.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494684163 125360894,125372670,2017-05-13 14:03:21,">>125372563 It really should say Cartels/monopolies only form with government protection",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494684201 125360894,125372805,2017-05-13 14:04:40,">>125372592 >As democracy's becomes more invasive, media power grows. So how are your private cities going to operate? Is it going to be a pure free-for-all (except for violations of the NAP) or are there going to be some rules that people wishing to live in your city have to agree to abide by?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494684280 125360894,125372969,2017-05-13 14:06:00,">>125372670 >Cartels/monopolies only form with government protection Feel free to prove your claim.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494684360 125360894,125373263,2017-05-13 14:08:36,">>125360894 Is there a reason why The Road to Serfdom and Capitalism and Freedom are not on the recommended reading list?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494684516 125360894,125373311,2017-05-13 14:09:01,">>125372596 But I did, I asked you to provide an example of cartel that wasn't created through government intervention, and I addressed multiple reasons as to why cartels are not as profitable as you think they are. Now you denied to give me an example because you claim I will be disingenuous and will not provide actual, thought out reasons to dismiss your example, which is an easy escape goat when you don't want your shit to be called out, but won't fly far around this thread. >>125372805 > Is it going to be a pure free-for-all (except for violations of the NAP) or are there going to be some rules that people wishing to live in your city have to agree to abide by? There are going to be contractual obligations, those cities that offer the less self-destructive rules (such as democracy, which is corrupted by media control) will prosper and gain property value, and therefore will be replicated by other cities. Trial and error lead to optimization.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494684541 125360894,125373345,2017-05-13 14:09:14,">>125372367 It's amazing how private enterprise builds the greatest and most complicated forms of architecture on the history of mankind such as skyscrapers, sports stadiums capable of holding even hundreds of thousands of people and yet we're supposed to believe clearing and leveling a surface and covering it with asphalt is such an extraordinary feat or engineering that only the state can do it.",,Anonymous,hong kong.jpg,vt7K5Y/HINYZ0ntIuyIcxQ==,ES,,1494684554 125360894,125373425,2017-05-13 14:09:50,">>125372183 >Usually, the people as a whole get educated by actual experience with the consequences of dealing with their own poor choices and if they can't do that and continue their madness, then they deserve it. Perhaps, and this is why I would rather side with you than with statists: I want to see what happens if we have many smaller-scale societies, each doing its own thing and promptly facing the consequences of its choices instead of the monolothic and slowly decaying societies we have now. A natural selection of sorts.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494684590 125360894,125373597,2017-05-13 14:11:16,">>125372969 If anything it's you who should explain how are cartels supposed to prevent other people producing and/or buying from others the products they make without a monopolistic agent of coercion (the state).",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494684676 125360894,125373888,2017-05-13 14:13:49,">>125373311 >I asked you to provide an example of cartel that wasn't created through government intervention Been there, done that. We're just going to argue the entire thread whether government intervention was the key or not, and I won't be able to find an example without government involved in some way, because most societies with large companies have had governments. I know such a debate is futile because it never ends and no consensus is ever reached. >those cities that offer the less self-destructive rules (such as democracy, which is corrupted by media control) will prosper and gain property value So your bet is that the best private cities are basically going to be dictatorships, with no means for the people to change the rules?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494684829 125360894,125374035,2017-05-13 14:15:15,">>125373263 The list needs to be updated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494684915 125360894,125374066,2017-05-13 14:15:29,">>125373597 >explain how are cartels supposed to prevent other people producing and/or buying from others the products they make without a monopolistic agent of coercion Using their joint economic power to drive competition out of business by manipulating prices to be low when it suits them and high when it doesn't.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494684929 125360894,125374287,2017-05-13 14:17:16,">>125365994 looking forward to it",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494685036 125360894,125374677,2017-05-13 14:20:43,">>125371855 >>125369288 >>125373888 >>125374066 I'm on a fucking stream here... How can lolbergtarians even compete?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494685243 125360894,125374709,2017-05-13 14:21:00,">>125371855 >>125369288 >>125373888 >>125374066 I'm on a fucking streak here... How can lolbergtarians even compete?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494685260 125360894,125374895,2017-05-13 14:22:52,">>125374066 Dumping has been thoroughly debunked since ever. It's just a myth, and you've been tricked. If a big company sells their stuff below production costs they'll lose money at a faster rate than the small ones. The small ones just need to reduce their production for a while or sell in other markets. Speculators will just buy the product by the millions and wait until the big company is tired of wasting money to resell everything. Even if smaller companies went out of business new ones would appear as soon as the prices went up. Many companies have tried that and gone bankrupt. Price manipulation doesn't work without daddy government preventing actual competition. Also, ""economic power"" doesn't exist. It's just a meme.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494685372 125360894,125375117,2017-05-13 14:25:12,">>125374895 >If a big company sells their stuff below production costs they'll lose money at a faster rate than the small ones. They don't need to sell it below production costs. They just need to sell it cheaper than the competition, which they may very well be able to do because they already have a well-established and optimized infrastructure while the competition is still getting organized. >X has been debunked >Y is just a meme Those are claims, not arguments.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494685512 125360894,125375336,2017-05-13 14:27:18,">>125374895 >Even if smaller companies went out of business new ones would appear as soon as the prices went up. Why, to try economic suicide like the ones that just died?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494685638 125360894,125375540,2017-05-13 14:29:21,">>125373888 >because most societies with large companies have had governments. So you refuse to provide an example because there are no examples. >So your bet is that the best private cities are basically going to be dictatorships, with no means for the people to change the rules? Dictatorship is not the only alternative to democracy, there's also contracts, which are neither dictatorship nor democracy, limiting the variability of laws to maintain a set of values without falling into populism. I don't completely dismiss democracy, I could be surprised and perhaps a certain degree of democracy under limits could prove itself superior to rigid contracts, and perhaps with some limits it could be sustainable, but I don't think I'd chose to live in a place with any kind of democracy.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494685761 125360894,125375588,2017-05-13 14:29:55,">>125360894 >Falling for jewish D&C >>125375323 >>125375323 >>125375323 LRG, NSG and CG are all the same >>125375323 >>125375323 >>125375323 Only communo-capitalism can save us >>125375323 >>125375323 >>125375323",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494685795 125360894,125375778,2017-05-13 14:31:37,">>125373425 That's generally how society is suppose to work with regards to capitalism; people are suppose to want these services. The more responsibilities the people have, the greater they can rise or fall. I am not going to sugar coat it, there are serious consequences if people don't create a healthy community or environment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494685897 125360894,125376072,2017-05-13 14:34:11,">>125375117 >They just need to sell it cheaper than the competition, which they may very well be able to do because they already have a well-established and optimized infrastructure while the competition is still getting organized. Bigger does not necessarily imply more efficient. Prove me it does. >such and such were not arguments I didn't intend them to be. >>125375336 Economic suicide would be the big corp doing that again after having wasted so much money the first time. >>125375588 >he isn't an anarcho-totalitarian-monarcho-contrarianist heh, plebeians...",,Anonymous,captcha.jpg,H/LJKnmYzciJolvYwdY0Zw==,ES,,1494686051 125360894,125376151,2017-05-13 14:34:58,">>125375540 >So you refuse to provide an example because there are no examples. There are no examples that comply with your arbitrary standard because, for purely circumstantial reasons, there can't be. You knows this and are just being intellectually dishonest. >Dictatorship is not the only alternative to democracy, there's also contracts, which are neither dictatorship nor democracy By ""dictatorship"" I mean ""either comply with the rules dictated by the city owners or leave"". By your logic, if instead of jailing you for avoiding taxes the state was to simply deport you, it's fine.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494686098 125360894,125376165,2017-05-13 14:35:04,">>125362936 This",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494686104 125360894,125376539,2017-05-13 14:38:21,">>125372969 No problem. In the late 19th century american indjstrialists tried to form cartels to cut production to increase profit. What would always would happen would companies would cut deals on the side at lower costs to close buisness associates to increase their own profit margin. Everyone would start doing it, and the cartel would fall apart. Only when companies lobbied government to mandate companies to publicly publish prices were monopolies able to form because now it was against the law to sell below published prices. Murry rothbard has a great lecture on this if you would like it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494686301 125360894,125376552,2017-05-13 14:38:29,">>125376072 >Bigger does not necessarily imply more efficient No, but given two equally competent entities, the one which already has a well-established and optimized infrastructure will obviously win. >Economic suicide would be the big corp doing that again after having wasted so much money the first time. But it doesn't waste any money. It just makes a smaller profit (temporarily) to beat the competition, which is what companies are supposed to be doing all the time anyway according to your ideology.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494686309 125360894,125376638,2017-05-13 14:39:17,">>125361472 Mises for lyfe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494686357 125360894,125376644,2017-05-13 14:39:20,">>125376072 join our discord https://discordapp.com/channels/302139483623522304/302139483623522304",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494686360 125360894,125376746,2017-05-13 14:40:24,">>125376644 > discord shoo shoo CIAnigger",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1494686424 125360894,125376786,2017-05-13 14:40:48,">>125376552 >just makes a smaller profit (temporarily) to beat the competition, What prevents a new company from producing cheaper than the bigger one?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494686448 125360894,125376839,2017-05-13 14:41:16,">>125376539 Interesting argument. I'd have to think about it for a bit to see if it's really watertight. >Murry rothbard has a great lecture on this if you would like it. Sure.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494686476 125360894,125377055,2017-05-13 14:43:26,">>125376786 >What prevents a new company from producing cheaper than the bigger one? Assuming the bigger one is at least as competent, it will have lower production costs due to existing and optimized infrastructure than the initial production cost for a newly formed company. Are you going to read the answer this time or will you force me to repeat it for a fourth?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494686606 125360894,125377137,2017-05-13 14:44:19,">>125376151 >There are no examples that comply with your arbitrary standard because, for purely circumstantial reasons, there can't be. You knows this and are just being intellectually dishonest. No I'm not. If collusion between rich people to fuck up the market was as profitable and sustainable as you claim it is, there should be hundreds of historic examples where no government intervention was involved. By the way, question related, are you against companies buying each other? >By ""dictatorship"" I mean ""either comply with the rules dictated by the city owners or leave"". Dictatorship implies variability in the law, a person or group with ability to change the rules of the game in the middle of the match. >By your logic, if instead of jailing you for avoiding taxes the state was to simply deport you, it's fine. No, because I never signed any contract with the state stating that I can be deported if I break rules.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494686659 125360894,125377657,2017-05-13 14:48:57,">>125377137 >there should be hundreds of historic examples where no government intervention was involved. Why would there ever be no government intervention involved? If they can make their life even easier by bribing government officials and using them against the competition, of course they will do so every time. This doesn't prove that government intervention was the key to success. However, I would first like to see the other anon's (>>125376539) lecture to see if it provides me with a better perspective. >No, because I never signed any contract with the state stating that I can be deported if I break rules. Okay, but neither does someone born within the confines of your private city.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494686937 125360894,125378234,2017-05-13 14:53:43,">>125377657 Let me ask you a question. Do you support the grabbing of my balls? You support the grabbing of my balls against me?",,Anonymous,moly.jpg,wGhSc300rh76jObYAzMLFg==,US,,1494687223 125360894,125378248,2017-05-13 14:53:49,">>125377657 >Why would there ever be no government intervention involved? Because every instance of historic cartels has crumbled save the cases where government laws protected them. Every single one. >Okay, but neither does someone born within the confines of your private city. Which is why they should sign a contract when they become of age if the city owners want provision against this potential danger of conflict.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494687229 125360894,125378330,2017-05-13 14:54:27,">>125377137 >Dictatorship implies variability in the law, a person or group with ability to change the rules of the game in the middle of the match. So the rules will be set in stone with no ability for the city management to adjust them as circumstances change?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494687267 125360894,125378557,2017-05-13 14:56:24,">>125378248 >Because every instance of historic cartels has crumbled save the cases where government laws protected them. Every single one. I don't know about that, but feel free to provide proof that this was, indeed, the case. >Which is why they should sign a contract when they become of age Are you of age? If you refuse to sign a contract to pay taxes, is it okay if the state deports you?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494687384 125360894,125378722,2017-05-13 14:57:53,,,Anonymous,1491742727924.png,NaJds+KosBhnwVNku057Ew==,GB,,1494687473 125360894,125379012,2017-05-13 15:00:36,">>125378722 Wonderful, I love you. I was thinking of getting Tyrone to do some /lrg/ related stuff but you beat me to it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494687636 125360894,125379052,2017-05-13 15:01:00,">>125378234 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzUPG8olnO0",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494687660 125360894,125380043,2017-05-13 15:10:04,">>125376839 Not the exact video i had in mind but same idea >https://youtu.be/tdLBzfFGFQU",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494688204 125360894,125380722,2017-05-13 15:15:33,">>125379052 So let me get this straight. You support the grabbing of my balls against my will?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494688533 125360894,125381151,2017-05-13 15:19:03,">>125380722 Testicles are public property. The means of production of sperm must be redistributed so feminist spinsters can be single moms once they hit the 30yo wall. If you disagree you hate women.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494688743 125360894,125381402,2017-05-13 15:20:54,">>125368111 NORMIES OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494688854 125360894,125381470,2017-05-13 15:21:23,">>125381151 No, you see my balls are part of my body. To distribute my balls against my will is theft. Plain and simple.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494688883 125360894,125382129,2017-05-13 15:26:50,">>125381470 But that's wrong anon. We must redistribute the testicles in society to correct the inherent oppression of nature. That's not theft, since by living within the same geographical area as those women you inherently agreed to donate at least one of your testicles to women. C'mon you sexist pig, obey the social contract willingly or we will take your balls by force.",,Anonymous,0036.jpg,kNj4HMzILT6ZA1vTO0QYnQ==,ES,,1494689210 125360894,125382211,2017-05-13 15:27:30,">>125375588 rerrooolll",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494689250 125360894,125382928,2017-05-13 15:32:59,">>125382211 >>125375588 >2211 >5588",,Anonymous,wizard.jpg,fnnExardJwuN1ojLoDn7Bw==,ES,,1494689579 125360894,125382932,2017-05-13 15:33:01,">>125380043 Most of it is a rehash of the stuff claimed in this thread. I don't know if Friedman is correct in his assessment that all the cartels that did enjoy longevity would have been unable to do so without government intervention. I think this argument suffers from a selection bias because all strong cartels will eventually bribe government officials whether it's strictly necessary for their survival or not.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494689581 125360894,125382982,2017-05-13 15:33:28,">>125382928 kek blesses comcap",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494689608 125360894,125383199,2017-05-13 15:34:59,Lolbertarians have been successfully subverted. I wouldn't associate myself with them.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494689699 125360894,125383205,2017-05-13 15:35:03,">>125380722 >You support the grabbing of my balls against my will? No, I'm just trying to instill in you the spirit of libertarian socialism using a song about community solidarity.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494689703 125360894,125384688,2017-05-13 15:45:49,">>125378722 LMAO",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2016-10-24-10-16-06-1.png,jZJ83hsqBsod7zFqBz523g==,PT,,1494690349 125360894,125385138,2017-05-13 15:48:51,">>125361888 pbuh, kek has blessed this image as truth",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494690531 125360894,125385378,2017-05-13 15:50:32,">>125365127 hey, saul, you may have forgotten but your (((people))) are promoting private tunnels and drone delivery. keep up, stupid",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494690632 125360894,125385980,2017-05-13 15:54:52,">>125360894 Greetings fellow Libertarians. What are doing to take back liberalism from the Progressives?",,Anonymous,Top-3-Libertarian-Positions-That-Are-Now-Mainstream.jpg,zffyFsp5Y/N43uu3FE9cPg==,US,,1494690892 125360894,125386091,2017-05-13 15:55:37,"Who /blackmarket/ here? Daily reminder to evade taxation as much as possible! Agorism is the best way to live and practice being a libertarian.",,Anonymous,DSCF7774.jpg,7sBAHUMM9mTTMXodjOBWfQ==,ES,,1494690937 125360894,125386263,2017-05-13 15:56:48,">>125385980 I want to be able to protect my teenage sex slaves with a PMC.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494691008 125360894,125386592,2017-05-13 15:59:08,">>125385980 True libertarians don't agree with government marriage licensing. Marriage should be privatized.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494691148 125360894,125386686,2017-05-13 15:59:48,">>125385980 I want white straight couples to protect their coton fields (wink wink) with a recretional nuke",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494691188 125360894,125387007,2017-05-13 16:02:10,,,Anonymous,ancap-andy4.jpg,QHcWwN+nxl2d72pS899NJg==,CA,,1494691330 125360894,125387538,2017-05-13 16:06:05,"Ancaps are just edgy liberals. As a fashy, I would take in a commie over them any day; at least the former acknowledges the corruption of capitalism.",,Anonymous,mosley.png,IyNobibCh04lhAgwx5WTow==,US,,1494691565 125360894,125387668,2017-05-13 16:06:56,">>125386686 This guy gets it. >>125382129 Shit, I guess I'll just check my privilege.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494691616 125360894,125387984,2017-05-13 16:09:27,">>125387538 Lol r u 4 real? At least we understand Europeans are the best. They want you to be EQUALS with niggers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494691767 125360894,125388042,2017-05-13 16:09:50,">>125387538 i'll bite",,Anonymous,1491690754786.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1494691790 125360894,125388071,2017-05-13 16:10:06,">>125364978 Diversity of thought is the only kind that matters. Libertarianism is built on pluralism, the idea that we should value each other for being different, that every individual has value because they are an individual unlike any other. It's the only reason we tolerate the ancaps, you know.",,Anonymous,libertarian sober.jpg,uAwNdjPpbYEyA5kASZ2bNQ==,US,,1494691806 125360894,125388172,2017-05-13 16:10:49,">>125378722 Sides status: [ ] Normal [X] Not found",,Anonymous,keksover900.jpg,ngNF8Zz+VsUO/29JzzwMIg==,RU,,1494691849 125360894,125388585,2017-05-13 16:13:55,>>125362737,,Anonymous,1494196060446.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,SE,,1494692035 125360894,125388664,2017-05-13 16:14:34,">>125388071 Lol, /lrg/ was made by AnCaps. We tolerate you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494692074 125360894,125389072,2017-05-13 16:17:56,">>125388664 this",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494692276 125360894,125389162,2017-05-13 16:18:37,">>125388071 Anon, it's time to radicalize.",,Anonymous,political test3.jpg,YsxhbwX1eNZs/HrAxyxxaw==,ES,,1494692317 125360894,125389451,2017-05-13 16:20:50,">>125386592 QFT. >>125388664 >>125389072 >>125389162 Yes, you are the online propaganda wing of the movement and doing quite well. We appreciate your work, but could you guys get the Voluntaryists to stop trash-talking mainstream libertarians? It's counterproductive and they're never going to escape the fringe without latching onto us.",,Anonymous,libertarian world domination.png,Y1UTLSIoMvBqg8kHAa6EvA==,US,,1494692450 125360894,125389552,2017-05-13 16:21:35,"I drunkenly met an equally drunk lawyer in a fag bar who turned out to be a member of the LDP (libertarian party) in aus. She talked about Rothbard, the Road to Serfdom, she even had a copy of ""Life After the destruction of the welfare state"" in her bag, we even talked about the NAP and 2A enough that she was drunkenly shouting ""1776 WILL BEGIN AGAIN"" on the way home. Was she a walking meme or is this what libertarians are irl? Also, didn't fuck her, she's married and 20 years older than me.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494692495 125360894,125389735,2017-05-13 16:23:06,>>125363064,,Anonymous,1494475978998.png,vMycZ9sIPPTjfxP24V71RQ==,US,,1494692586 125360894,125389869,2017-05-13 16:24:14,">>125389552 No, most Libertarians are not like that in the real world. Sorry about the Australian cousins, tho.",,Anonymous,libertarian j jonah jameson don't tell me what to do.jpg,yGx/nZx2r7xepYJ0uEOGig==,US,,1494692654 125360894,125390221,2017-05-13 16:27:01,">>125389451 I approve very much of ostracizing nu-ancaps. PaleoLibertarian AnCap is the orthodox and master race anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494692821 125360894,125390227,2017-05-13 16:27:03,">>125389869 She was nice though, except when this other guy, a One Nation party member and nationalist comes over and she keeps calling him a socialist. It was funny anyway, since he started saying Hitler in 1933 was Nationalism done right.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494692823 125360894,125390451,2017-05-13 16:28:51,">>125389451 >but could you guys get the Voluntaryists to stop trash-talking mainstream libertarians? no, mainstream libertarianism is literally worse than the alt-lite and bashing them is the only way they'll bother to go deeper we're not a democratic movement, we are secessionist, and thus must be un-compromising in our principles",,Anonymous,1488567467333.jpg,FbBoLOT5ccIBsR5t/YvCZQ==,US,,1494692931 125360894,125390549,2017-05-13 16:29:35,">>125389451 Popularity is irrelevant. The ideas of freedom have always been popular among a minority of people yet at some points of history they succeeded out of pure necessity. Even back then in the 19th century (classic) liberalism was something very few supported yet few people that pushed for the ideas of free trade, private property and individual freedom changed history forever. >>125389552 The problem with libertarianism is that it delivers many impacting and life changing revelations that can only come when you isolate yourself from mainstream points of view and do your own research. There are so many lies, be it economic, political and etc that some become obsessed with politics and as such to that point. Some people some day read For a New Liberty or some of the other shock literature and stay like this for a long time.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494692975 125360894,125390949,2017-05-13 16:32:27,">>125390549 Hola, Che! How are those focos working out for you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494693147 125360894,125390985,2017-05-13 16:32:43,">>125389451 Wait a minute, what do you mean by mainstream libertarians? I hope you're not talking about Tucker, he needs to be called a faggot. Those libertarians are trash. I like Constitutional conservatives and Ron Paul Republicans tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494693163 125360894,125391079,2017-05-13 16:33:24,">>125390451 And Tocqueville was a democracy supporter But he was pragmatic and knew Statists would find a way to subvert the system",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494693204 125360894,125391216,2017-05-13 16:34:23,>>125390985,,Anonymous,CuWkcyRXgAA6FxZ.jpg,Z/DVsgNA0o0ykOD86bqZhw==,US,,1494693263 125360894,125391243,2017-05-13 16:34:37,"give me your honest opinions on communo-capitalism, where communes are freely traded (via stocks or whatever) >>125375323 >>125375323 >>125375323",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494693277 125360894,125391385,2017-05-13 16:35:47,">>125389451 LOL, you want us to not make fun of Tucker and Gary Johnson? Not gonna happen. They are total cucks and make me ashamed to be part of Purple Square.",,Anonymous,Untitled-1.png,5veZO4dkaYvo1XZb31sSsQ==,US,,1494693347 125360894,125391431,2017-05-13 16:36:07,">>125389451 Also, we are not trash-talking, we are just meming them. Minarchlets can't take the bant.",,Anonymous,smol gov1.png,NWI3Akzdrg+A0vEGnWnT6Q==,ES,,1494693367 125360894,125391433,2017-05-13 16:36:08,">>125391216 >Aleppo man Kill yourself I have the right of not baking cakes for fags",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494693368 125360894,125391484,2017-05-13 16:36:30,">>125391243 I'll give you my honest opinion on communo-capitalism, if you give me your honest opinion on odorless smells.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494693390 125360894,125391540,2017-05-13 16:36:56,">>125391216 Say it with me folks! BAKE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494693416 125360894,125391574,2017-05-13 16:37:19,">>125391540 THAT",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494693439 125360894,125391649,2017-05-13 16:37:53,">>125391574 CAKE",,Anonymous,smol gov3.png,6meFKafxMAU1zS+urZUBaA==,ES,,1494693473 125360894,125391653,2017-05-13 16:37:54,">>125391574 CAKE",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494693474 125360894,125391734,2017-05-13 16:38:41,">>125391216 oh how I hate this faggot",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494693521 125360894,125391876,2017-05-13 16:39:40,">>125391734 someone post the gary johnson reading list truly a classic",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494693580 125360894,125391972,2017-05-13 16:40:24,">>125391216 Lol, I think youd fit in more at r/goldandblack",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494693624 125360894,125392012,2017-05-13 16:40:36,">>125391876 >>125391385",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494693636 125360894,125392222,2017-05-13 16:42:09,">>125391385 I'm not familiar with Tucker at all. Criticize Johnson personally all you want, fair enough, but his policy stances are mainstream libertarianism and about 15% of registered voters say they most agree with the mainstream libertarian stance while actual registered libertarians are only 0.25% of registered voters. That's the future of libertarianism. We have to embrace the ideas that people actually believe or we're just another radical revolutionary extremist group. That's why I don't like the kneejerk Johnson hate from the Voluntaryists. They're just pushing people away when we're supposed to be the one ideology that promotes dissent rather than quashing it.",,Anonymous,libertarian vs progressivism freedom of information.jpg,wvCV/ntD4V3Vc747LE9ihg==,US,,1494693729 125360894,125392344,2017-05-13 16:42:59,">>125391876 screencap here >>125391385",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494693779 125360894,125392546,2017-05-13 16:44:30,">>125392222 >agumentum ad populum : the post",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494693870 125360894,125392792,2017-05-13 16:46:35,">>125392222 >his policy stances are mainstream libertarianism lol nope",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494693995 125360894,125392811,2017-05-13 16:46:48,">>125360894 > Libertarian > RIGHT Your autism is showing. also, have a Secretary-General bird. Nature's snake-stepping master.",,Anonymous,tread.webm,FDo2KdmCFItDgUwZFU6TTQ==,RO,,1494694008 125360894,125392906,2017-05-13 16:47:44,">>125365292 >>125365365 >>125365461",,Anonymous,statist roads deer.jpg,Y+JWF8o+VqL2I0ipAJc1IQ==,FR,,1494694064 125360894,125392954,2017-05-13 16:48:03,">>125392546 Just to straw man you a little, aristocracy and libertarianism aren't really compatible at all. Enlightened Absolutism was just absolutism with a different set of practical policies.",,Anonymous,libertarian what X thinks I do.jpg,kCC9Dn8ZowS6RKtDj1lWEw==,US,,1494694083 125360894,125392964,2017-05-13 16:48:06,">>125360894 can ancap bring more economic power to the us im sort of confused of ancap does it force isolationism or is there still investments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494694086 125360894,125392975,2017-05-13 16:48:12,"I will never get behind open borders and freedom of movement between other countries though. If you don't have borders, you're not a nation at all. >>125392222 > normies who can't think for themselves think Aleppo man is a libertarian, and not just a jumped up Democrat in disguise.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494694092 125360894,125393114,2017-05-13 16:49:25,">>125392222 Some people believe that voting does not matter, or that it's outright immoral. They think that direct action gives infinitely more results than a single vote would ever do. Things like researching how to pay the legal minimum of taxes (there are guides on how to) or even tax evading, or delocalizing your business, or practicing a minimalist lifestyle and therefore paying the minimum possible of taxes and advocating others to do so have way more effect than a single vote every four years would ever have. The LP may sway a few people to appreciate libertarianism, but by no means libertarianism was ever meant to succeed through the established political channels. Vote with your feet, with your cash and with your property, remove your support to the state. That's how you accelerate the arrival of the welfare state's eventual collapse. It's called agorism.",,Anonymous,vote harder.jpg,EgQIj5qpFkC4Tt/cCFlV9A==,ES,,1494694165 125360894,125393129,2017-05-13 16:49:34,">>125392222 >We have to embrace the ideas that people actually believe. Well theres alot of rising support for communism so we might as well give up on our beliefs and join the faggot crypto-commie bandwagon and simply label it as ""libertarian"". Fucks no. There can be NO TOLERANCE for that trash. It is NOT libertarianism. Thats why /lrg/ was founded, to directly fight this gay bullshit parading itself around larping as us.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1494694174 125360894,125393184,2017-05-13 16:50:03,">>125392811 that's a cool bird. Where can I buy one?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494694203 125360894,125393333,2017-05-13 16:51:22,">>125392811 >>>>>r/anarchism",,Anonymous,1487295096406.gif,c0cEtWydd18Gd5R3xcMImw==,US,,1494694282 125360894,125393389,2017-05-13 16:51:46,">>125392964 In the limited form of ""government"" that is proposed under ancap systems, nations do not really exist per se. There would be no ""trade policy"", but also no laws regulating imports/export or foreign investment. Ancaps don't usually talk about the vulnerability to aggressive foreign economic policies such as China's.",,Anonymous,libertarians misconceptions name calling.jpg,xUbwLLo9uc4/xlfwS9jFxA==,US,,1494694306 125360894,125393699,2017-05-13 16:54:29,">>125392954 Erm...why strawmanning me ? I just noted you used a fallacy for approving nihilo-libertarianism If you really thinks that we should follow the biggest libertarian trends because they are more numerous why not being unironically a socialist ? It's very popular",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494694469 125360894,125393775,2017-05-13 16:55:21,">>125389451 You faggots had plenty of time trying to spread ideas while apologizing for the state. You get the helicopter first for you know better but choose not to do what must be done.",,Anonymous,friendremoved.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,US,,1494694521 125360894,125394063,2017-05-13 16:58:14,">>125387007 nice, saved that. can we get more of this guy forcing communists to pick cotton, throwing them from choppers and so on?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494694694 125360894,125394120,2017-05-13 16:58:48,">>125393114 >>125393129 >>125392975 This is what I mean by just another form of radical extremism. You are all making really good points, you have really interesting ideas, and I think we're all libertarians of different stripes. In trying to concentrate into one, instead of cooperating as many, you're closing off sources of ideas, declaring people to be worth negative value, and slowly embracing the authoritarianism of the enemy. Gaze long into the abyss...",,Anonymous,libertarian classical liberalism revival movement.jpg,YQF1RHiYtADpJXZd9mRbyw==,US,,1494694728 125360894,125394286,2017-05-13 17:00:26,">>125393184 Subsaharan Africa. Not even joking. But I wouldn't advise it. This particular species of the Accipiteriformes is known for its instinctive and vicious hatred of capitalism Iand snakes). >>125393333 >owtheedge.jpg",,Anonymous,tread.jpg,DlD9NqkYBsoxtqwJdwGAMA==,RO,,1494694826 125360894,125394409,2017-05-13 17:01:29,">>125393699 Maybe there is a language barrier here, but it sounds like you are speaking in bad faith. I am advocating for a group that is 15% of the population. From what cruel (in the Hobbesian sense) point of view did it appear that meant always supporting the absolute majority regardless of all other factors?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494694889 125360894,125394413,2017-05-13 17:01:32,">>125394286 > * (and snakes), not > capitalism land snakes",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1494694892 125360894,125394496,2017-05-13 17:02:18,">>125394286 This picture proves that niggers can't into freedom",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494694938 125360894,125394582,2017-05-13 17:03:09,">>125394413 lol, of course it makes sense now, nothing from africa likes things that make people sucessful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494694989 125360894,125394934,2017-05-13 17:06:29,">>125394120 I'd rather collectivise with mainstream republicans, alt-light, and even alt-right before I show support for open borders.and dudeweed culture fetishization. pic related is you.",,Anonymous,1494199996985.jpg,5JCNG+rCtM+B1/iHTRok7w==,US,,1494695189 125360894,125395031,2017-05-13 17:07:23,">>125394409 >That's the future of libertarianism. We have to embrace the ideas that people actually believe or we're just another radical revolutionary extremist group That's why you meant. We should not be radicals because most of libertarians aren't like us We should pay the less taxes possible,selling our production/services though grey market and bomb the IRS,not voting for progressive fags like Johnson who call themselves libertarians because ""dude weed AND guns lmao"" Nothing more,nothing less",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494695243 125360894,125395299,2017-05-13 17:09:44,">>125394120 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ the time for arguments has passed",,Anonymous,fb7397bf6eddb146fd9ee016209da65c_mgs-peace-walker-logo-black-peace-walker-logo-clipart_1800-1800.png,JplgMA0u11E3kEfWVJ5MqA==,US,,1494695384 125360894,125395309,2017-05-13 17:09:48,"How the fuck is Gary Johnson even a libertarian nigga? >bake that nazi cake >BLM is fucking great >lmao fuck freedom of association and thought >carbon tax when? >TPP ftw >what do you mean government shouldn't put a gun to people's head to steal tehir money and fund PP? I love pp! >the government has the right to implement mass forced vaccinations >humanitarian wars are ok >what do you mean I wasn't even fiscally conservative when I was a governor? >WHAT IS A LEPPO ????? and he chose Weld as his fucking VP, fucking weld He's just a dudeweeder sjw (who would profit from it, hnnn) and otherwise an absolute retard stop falling for the memesteam meteor controlled opposition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5gQo43ay4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul-wafI4K4A https://steemit.com/politics/@kafkanarchy84/gary-johnson-is-not-a-libertarian http://www.dailywire.com/news/8346/7-reasons-libertarian-ticket-isnt-libertarian-all-aaron-bandler http://libertarianinvestments.com/2016/08/27/10-reasons-gary-johnson-is-not-a-libertarian/",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494695388 125360894,125395353,2017-05-13 17:10:12,">>125394120 That's where you're getting me wrong anon. Everything that reduces and decentralizes state power is something for libertarians to celebrate. For example a 10% income tax is preferable to a 30% one, even though I advocate for its abolition. If I know people that is into voting, which is something I absolutely disagree with, I will rather have them voting the most libertarian option regarding policy no matter the brand than voting its more statist counterpart. Regardless of the ultimate goal, the means to achieve it are the same. Decentralize and make state power less relevant, whatever the method.",,Anonymous,1494116440359.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,ES,,1494695412 125360894,125395473,2017-05-13 17:11:25,">>125365365 Who needs roads when you have flying cars?",,Anonymous,flying_car.jpg,6rBg2XWL4bJeYzUemCyIjw==,US,,1494695485 125360894,125395615,2017-05-13 17:12:52,,,Anonymous,1493824201510.jpg,85L/V22sr8iD95ct9o7Pgg==,US,,1494695572 125360894,125395650,2017-05-13 17:13:15,">>125395299 Based Hoppe, Based Cantwell, Based Portubro. The time for arguments has passed. We must focus our efforts on physically removing leftists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494695595 125360894,125395784,2017-05-13 17:14:32,Is hoppe aware of his dopey memes?,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494695672 125360894,125396089,2017-05-13 17:17:40,">>125395784 I hope so, but there is not confirmation. I'd like to send him memes before he does his talk on libertarianism and the alt-right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494695860 125360894,125396120,2017-05-13 17:17:57,">>125378722 amazing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494695877 125360894,125396132,2017-05-13 17:18:03,Ukrainian Libertarian flag with quote of our poet(Shevchenko),,Anonymous,vY-3ryzBYss.jpg,Y6Aok7uiumRF8JgVH0SwFg==,UA,,1494695883 125360894,125396178,2017-05-13 17:18:32,">>125395784 maybe some day he decides to do an ego trip and search his name in youtube and finds all the trippy hoppewave music videos. if anything a reference to the /lrg/ threads in the description of the videos should be made.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494695912 125360894,125396646,2017-05-13 17:23:05,Give me 100 reasons to why communism won't work. Protip; you cant.,,Anonymous,,,NO,,1494696185 125360894,125396757,2017-05-13 17:24:08,">>125396646 But anon, I can.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494696248 125360894,125396899,2017-05-13 17:25:31,">>125395031 If a society is to be pluralistic, valuing all viewpoints as potentially worthwhile, there has to be room for both extremism and moderation in belief. Fundamentally, the purpose of government is to perform functions and democracy is the means by which we decide what gets done, by whom, and how it gets paid for. We need to listen to extremists and consider their points of view else we choose willful ignorance. But extremists will always be a tiny minority and minority rule is fundamentally authoritarian. The minority must force the majority to bend to their vision of reality in order to rule. Majority rule is no less dangerous, simply having fewer potential victims. Democracy enables us to decide in a manner that everyone can live with. Libertarian democracy ensures that everyone enjoys the same rights and privileges safeguarded from the whims of the times through a constitution. Libertarians love the free market because that is where both parties gain more value from each other by agreeing to lose something of value first. Libertarians love democracy because that is where all parties gain more freedom from each other by agreeing to take violence off the table first.",,Anonymous,libertarian we the people are pissed dtom.jpg,WkfdiWcK7mNBwCg63v6shg==,US,,1494696331 125360894,125396956,2017-05-13 17:26:12,">>125396646 I can give you 85-100 million reasons",,Anonymous,"41EtjnB1VgL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",fTaH8u1/Vp/FRDdXJGSIvg==,US,,1494696372 125360894,125397087,2017-05-13 17:27:24,">>125396646 One reason for every miscalculation. Amounting to several billion.",,Anonymous,Economic calculation problem.png,tq1mDmBSLQYEBP9Lyv1jvA==,ES,,1494696444 125360894,125397259,2017-05-13 17:29:03,">>125395353 I agree with you completely here. We may disagree on other issues, but pragmatism has to come first in politics or the problems don't get solved. And without an ideology to guide it, pragmatism quickly leads to self-righteous absolutism. I happen to think libertarianism is the ideology that offers the biggest bang for everyone's buck in quality of life.",,Anonymous,mike rowe work is beautiful conservative dudes quote.jpg,oF8KqBuTZhrFoeLaNHWIng==,US,,1494696543 125360894,125397387,2017-05-13 17:30:18,">>125396899 >Libertarians love democracy because that is where all parties gain more freedom from each other by agreeing to take violence off the table first. then explain to me why Hong Kong, the United Arab Emirates, Lichtenstein, and Monaco are the most libertarian states in the world and non of them are democracies",,Anonymous,c3f45d477b9d75ea6bf746ce1769d0fe.jpg,icxJLCPRAy21ZMWuZyWCBg==,US,,1494696618 125360894,125397511,2017-05-13 17:31:37,">>125396899 Read nigga READ",,Anonymous,image.jpg,89RtippKlfi6zA8qiTsDcw==,FR,,1494696697 125360894,125397620,2017-05-13 17:32:30,">>125393333 Nice digits",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1494696750 125360894,125397771,2017-05-13 17:33:58,">>125397511 if you haven't read this book then please PHYSICALLY REMOVE yourself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494696838 125360894,125397928,2017-05-13 17:35:34,">>125396132 Excellent, thank you ! I am very interested in Ukraine's history and the Zaporozhian Cossacks.",,Anonymous,Cossacks.jpg,0RVr3F8r3+96a+LjcdOXwQ==,FR,,1494696934 125360894,125397993,2017-05-13 17:36:17,">>125396132 Props Ukrainebro. We remember. >>125397387 Surely you are not serious. The UAE imports slaves. Slaves. If you are seriously going to suggest slavery is libertarian, I am all ears, but wat wat wat. Lichtenstein and Monaco have tourist economies. Hotel resorts are also very libertarian and not democracies. Hong Kong is complicated, but throwing it on the list strikes me as disingenuous if you are familiar with their history.",,Anonymous,640x392_56460_130084.jpg,RRfD28SazEC8ydnqLGUVVw==,US,,1494696977 125360894,125398500,2017-05-13 17:41:41,">>125397928 I just realized that the pic I posted aren't Zaporozhian Cossacks, but their enemy, the Poles. Here are Cossacks.",,Anonymous,1600 - 1699 Ukrainian army XVII century Foot registered Cossacks in a festive and casual clothes.jpg,QkJOFiYV5aW/b2kvoxZ6pA==,FR,,1494697301 125360894,125398673,2017-05-13 17:43:16,">>125395784 Maltabro should ask him later this year (he'll be attending a conference in Malta where he'll speak) if he's aware.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494697396 125360894,125398851,2017-05-13 17:45:04,">>125398500 You do realise that a lot of Cossacks were Polish and Russian? Polish government was the enemy, not the poles.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1494697504 125360894,125398955,2017-05-13 17:46:11,">>125397993 >Lichtenstein and Monaco have tourist economies that has nothing to do with what I just said >The UAE imports slaves. Slaves. it does, from foreign countries without citizenship, if you think superior humans can't own subhumans or people that sold themselves into slavery then you're making a special case for bipedal apes that you wouldn't make for cattle or pets and aren't being consistent with private property rights, which ARE the basis for libertarianism NOT fuck off and leave people alone > Hong Kong is complicated, but throwing it on the list strikes me as disingenuous if you are familiar with their history. it's not complicated, like everything else on the list, the country offers unmatched economic freedom and no political freedom, because the two are mutually exclusive this is /pol/, not your kikery and watered down halfassed lolbertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494697571 125360894,125399036,2017-05-13 17:46:52,">>125373345 I wish we were all like Hong Kong. Bright lights are so pretty.",,Anonymous,Hong Kong.jpg,H8jSkvuQ2aQmQWGVUtzZgw==,AU,,1494697612 125360894,125399168,2017-05-13 17:48:13,">>125398955 ...so you are indeed pro-slavery? And you identify with an ideology of individual self-determination?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494697693 125360894,125399358,2017-05-13 17:50:09,">>125398955 >if you think superior humans can't own subhumans or people that sold themselves into slavery Whilst I agree with you in the case that somebody sells themselves to 'slavery' (being voluntary, this isn't the correct term), the fact that certain people are superiour to others doesn't mean they can violate their self ownership.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494697809 125360894,125399559,2017-05-13 17:51:56,">>125361104 No not really",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1494697916 125360894,125399563,2017-05-13 17:51:57,">>125389162 the first one which matches for me, all the others have been completely wrong",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494697917 125360894,125399615,2017-05-13 17:52:23,">>125397993 http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking >>125399036 Cheap demagoguery. Many people lived like this in Western countries in our recent past. The merit of those countries is that they are and have been developing at an incredibly fast pace while the West is stagnant economically. The fact that they have not catched up yet proves nothing.",,Anonymous,socialism2.jpg,gQNku/1Z/ud9ki3mSbUA8Q==,ES,,1494697943 125360894,125400073,2017-05-13 17:56:33,"It is interesting to note that the best arguments in favor of the state used by statists in general constitute, in fact, when well analyzed, of excellent arguments against the state. Two basic examples come to mind immediately: 1) Hobbes's argument says that in the natural state people would claim more and more rights, rather than less, leading to incessant and ever-increasing conflicts. Then there is the need for a sovereign arbitrator, above and beyond civil society. The legal idea behind this is clear: agreements require an external prosecutor to make them binding. The state can not therefore follow from there, since who would make this same agreement binding, if there are no referees out of state? One out of two: either it will be necessary to establish another state (falling into infinite regression) or the Hobbesian state itself is in a state of anarchy within itself. In practice, we are in the second case, where the state is not tied to any external prosecutors. There are no out-of-state contracts so that all conflicts involving the state (be the state with private citizens or between it and its parasites) will always be settled within his own legal mechanisms, with its own self-imposed rules, i.e, with the restrictions that it itself, and only it, imposes itself. In relation to itself, the state is still in the natural state of anarchy characterized by self-scrutiny and self-control, just as society in a ""natural state."" Only worse: given that humans are what they are, and since the state is made up of men, it has a natural tendency to mediate its conflicts for its own benefit, to the detriment of private citizens. Totalitarianism is the inevitable destiny.",,Anonymous,Jesús-Huerta-de-Soto.jpg,dXRJeaMX6wKezPD3h6eiQg==,BR,,1494698193 125360894,125400315,2017-05-13 17:58:33,">>125400073 2) Ayn Rand argues that an anarchist society could not provide a division of labor in producing law because law enforcement normally requires the use of physical force, and if only a few members of society are specializing in the use of phisical force, then all teh others in society will be at the mercy. But if this is an objection to anarchy, why is it not an even stronger objection to the state, since the state, unlike a security agency under anarchy, is devoid of any rivals, so is in a position still better to abuse its power? As Molinari pointed out, economic laws are universal, giving no gaps for exceptions. Rand goes on to envisage a minarquist utopia in which state actions are ""rigidly defined, bounded, and circumscribed,"" while the government itself is ""like an impersonal robot,"" operating free of any ""touch of arbitrariness and caprice."" This may seem reasonable at first sight, but, after all, the state is an institution of definite nature, and the expected actions of it are determined by its nature and not by our desires and fantasies. So the real question is whether it is realistic to expect this kind of automatic and impartial operation from a centralized monopoly. And indeed, it is not. Power corrupts, because it attracts the corruptible. And the system of incentives of a state monopoly is truly perverse. The story is there to show that as a general trend, human freedom is increasingly stifled by the statist threat. What is important to note in these points is that the general argument of anarcho-capitalism is actually a counter-argument. As a genuine pro-freedom philosophy, anarcho-capitalism does not tell us what is right, what must be done to achieve certain desirable ends, but only says, through logic and a priori arguments, what we certainly know to be wrong. And statism is definitely on this list.",,Anonymous,hhh.jpg,pvWUOBDrml4X/RoZHmgtTw==,BR,,1494698313 125360894,125400750,2017-05-13 18:02:44,">>125397387 >>125398955 Sorry to burst your little bubble here buddy but here are the world's top 10 freest economies in 2014.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-05-14-00-57-29-1.png,OwXVGtZhWlbZsd5NGw45XA==,SY,,1494698564 125360894,125400810,2017-05-13 18:03:21,">>125399358 >an ideology of individual self-determination? no, property rights >>125399168 look at any below average IQ r/selected collectivist and you're looking at Aristotle's natural born slave, an empty vessel that can't fathom the idea of self determination and actively despises it, the thing they fear the most is living without a purpose, such people value security over freedom so much that slavery would look like a dream to them if we only changed the name humans have practiced slavery for all their history, even today we do, we've just offshored it it's either this or physical removal, and why waste good resources?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494698601 125360894,125401085,2017-05-13 18:05:56,">>125400810 I think you quoted the wrong person, considering that wasn't my point. Property rights stem from self ownership, so in no way is taking ownership of someone - which must by definition be done by force, as people evidently have control over their own body and neurons - consistent with property rights. After all, if you own somebody, do you not also own their property?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494698756 125360894,125401584,2017-05-13 18:10:33,">>125401085 >if you own somebody, do you not also own their property? you're alluding to monarchy? private ownership of the country by a sole proprietor entitled to the lands capital value and thus fiscally responsible for it? why yes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494699033 125360894,125401762,2017-05-13 18:11:57,">>125400750 HOLY SHIT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW6lnmx0ETw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494699117 125360894,125402413,2017-05-13 18:18:06,">>125401584 I'm alluding to slavery as you so mentioned",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494699486 125360894,125402894,2017-05-13 18:22:22,">>125401584 >you're alluding to monarchy? private ownership of the country by a sole proprietor entitled to the lands capital value and thus fiscally responsible for it? why yes And here's why you're a dumb faggot. A king cannot single handedly rule a country. He needs a court and loyal servants, and the only way to buy the loyalty of these servants is giving them sectoral monopoly rights or certain economic privileged not available to the rest of the population. The royal courts of 20th and 19th century Europe were corrupt to their very bones, have no delusions about that. A king needs to resort to nepotism and cronyism to keep his crown, there's no getting around that. Just look at Putin's Russia and how the Russian economy still suffers to this very day more than two decades after the collapse of the soviet union. Yes, monarchs don't print as much paper money as democracies, because they fear the consequences of inflation in the long term, but to think that monarchism is perfect is beyond retarded. Better than democracy? Probably, but definitely not something to hope for either.",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1494699742 125360894,125404334,2017-05-13 18:37:09,">>125402894 >A king cannot single handedly rule a country and a business owner cannot single handedly run a store, does hiring employees make the store any less his? > the only way to buy the loyalty of these servants is giving them sectoral monopoly rights or certain economic privileged not available to the rest of the population this is true, but he's no more likely to sacrifice more of his power to them than a business owner would pay a checkstand clerk more than they produce in marginal value when a king over taxes his people, he capitalizes on the present utility of his people while lowering the capital value of his estate. Assuming nothing but self interest on the part of the king, maximizing the utility of the state without lowering its future capital value is the economically feasible path of a successful leader. This is why state spending to total GDP ratios under monarchies averaged 3% to 8% and those employed to the state averaged 3% of the population Under democracies however, the incentive to over tax and over spend is amplified because as a democratically elected official, a representative does not own the capital value of the state but does own it's temporary use. And as its temporary beneficiary, it is in his self interest to tax highly in the present because the future capital of the state is not his, and anything he does not loot in the present he will not be able to loot in the future This is why democracies national spending averages from a low of 20% to a high of 60% and in some of the worst cases 80%, and public employment under democracies averages 20% of the population, all getting progressively worse over time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494700629 125360894,125404430,2017-05-13 18:38:06,">>125373345 This. Also Hong Kong is a stunning cityscape",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494700686 125360894,125406952,2017-05-13 19:00:52,">>125404334 Thanks for reciting the same old Hoppe arguments that everyone here knows by heart. My point is that you're too enthusiastic for monarchism. If america was to become a monarchy overnight, the new king will most definitely announce massive welfare programs to buy the compliance of the citizens. Look at turkey and Saudi Arabia for example where the dictators of both countries use welfare to prevent their subjects from revolting. What worked in monarchies 200 years ago doesn't work these days. Today the ""peasants"" are much better educated than their ancestors, and as people become better educated, they start demanding a larger role in political life. that's an inexorable historical mechanism that repeated itself time and time again all over the western world. So, given that monarchs aren't too keen on sharing political power, the only option left for them is buying compliance through welfare. Again, there's no getting around that. A modern monarchy will never be as successful as you wish it to be. Again, maybe better than democracy, depending on the monarch, but not as glorious as you would like it to be. Look Hoppe is based and all but there are multiple factors at play regarding political systems and their relation to economic performance, and these factors are radically different from those of 18th century Europe. Just learn to live with that. Look at the pic posted above again. Almost all the world's most liberal economies are democracies.",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1494702052 125360894,125408692,2017-05-13 19:16:10,">>125406952 >So, given that monarchs aren't too keen on sharing political power, the only option left for them is buying compliance through welfare. No, there's one more: incorporating the throne. the difference between the last monarchical age and today is now we have a strong developed system for collective ownership in the private sector: the stock market If it's in the interest of maintaining his throne and the king's two most realistic options were mass subsidization of complacency or sharing rights to the state with those who buy into it, the latter would maintain or increase the capital value of the state while the first would decrease it as well as dramatically decrease his personal assets under an incorporated throne, where the largest stockholders would form the aristocracy and act as the board of directors, it's much more likely that the CEO or occupier of the throne would be (because of the rational self interest of the stock holders) not simply a king by blood right but the most qualified and economically literate person they can find for the job. This system would replace the communistic one-man one-vote rule with one-vote one-share, so that the people with the largest voice in government are those with the highest fiscal vested interest. If a spiteful-envious lower class tried to start an uprising against this regime, they'd find themselves not just harming the interests of the king, but the interest of every stockholder in the state, thus securing it's sovereignty much more thoroughly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494702970 125360894,125409014,2017-05-13 19:19:03,>mfw ctrl f 'road',,Anonymous,amusedamerican.jpg,Ggcu2bjhiWW4nl5KMOsoJQ==,PL,,1494703143 125360894,125409286,2017-05-13 19:21:21,">>125406952 Hoppe argues a priori, meaning he does not take historical context into consideration. Monarchy is superior to democracy because it is theoretical more consistent with property rights, regardless of historical data or anecdotal examples. I think you're right that modern monarchs would have an absolute headache getting around to dismantling the welfare state, but it will have to be done sooner or later. Liechtenstein and Monaco are a good examples of how to run successful modern monarchies. Also, those countries are free despite democracy, not because of it. It's what Jefferson (or Washington?) said: a country goes to shit when people realize they can vote themselves the money of others.",,Anonymous,NRx.png,hPIt9fZPX4q9OyPB19vCZg==,PT,,1494703281 125360894,125410014,2017-05-13 19:28:00,">>125360894 >/Lrg/ >OP is Spaniard",,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,BR,,1494703680 125360894,125410595,2017-05-13 19:32:54,">>125360894 Just moved to catalunya and the first thing i saw no joke was a graffiti of socialist feminism",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494703974 125360894,125410729,2017-05-13 19:34:02,For brs AnCap/libertarians (and Portugas também).,,Anonymous,nao-mexa-comigo.jpg,iZvMp11omaLxhZd0O8rw/g==,BR,,1494704042 125360894,125411849,2017-05-13 19:43:56,Bump,,Anonymous,1491524594422.gif,l5UG9Q1uzM9YHHmjSlySUA==,BR,,1494704636 125360894,125412045,2017-05-13 19:45:35,">>125410729 delet this white part",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494704735 125360894,125412216,2017-05-13 19:47:09,">>125411849 >>125412045 maybe there's hope for brazil maybe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494704829 125360894,125412987,2017-05-13 19:53:24,">>125412045 Make that lazy. >>125412216 No hope, m8. Only the hope for succession. Fuck Brazilia, fuck RJ, fuck North and Northeast",,Anonymous,AnCap RothGirl youtube channel.jpg,wN50MeEUr0yCIK/1yVwHWg==,BR,,1494705204 125360894,125413941,2017-05-13 20:01:40,">>125412987 >not even an anglo eceleb Dropped",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494705700 125360894,125414450,2017-05-13 20:06:21,">>125413941 ancap might be the only philosophy that's more of a sausage fest than natsoc not to mention if you're not on your game 100% of the time people just spam muh roads at you and boom you're a living meme very difficult to find eceleb ancap material, very few cases",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494705981 125360894,125414673,2017-05-13 20:08:05,">>125414450 there were a bunch, and they didn't go away, pol just stopped spamming them and started spamming other blonde bimbos craving for attention like lauren southern",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1494706085 125419127,125419127,2017-05-13 20:52:34,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1490829201743.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,CA,,1494708754 125419127,125419710,2017-05-13 20:58:32,">>125419127 >and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Pls add nazi fags too. ""M-muh socialism for whites will surely work! t-trust me!"". Nazis should go off the helicopter right after commies.",,Anonymous,1492374993158.jpg,fg+ABaXbh0DFV9tOiFytjg==,US,,1494709112 125419127,125419818,2017-05-13 20:59:37,">>125419127 >current year >being classcucked",,Anonymous,1492462832.jpg,E2D2yosc8CWk5I+dlnCyqg==,US,,1494709177 125419127,125419859,2017-05-13 20:59:59,">>125419710 How about STATIST FAGS? All socialists are statists after all",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494709199 125419127,125419929,2017-05-13 21:00:42,">>125419859 Yup, that will work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494709242 125419127,125419980,2017-05-13 21:01:11,">>125419818 >current year >being a fucking communist may several bullets come your way, leftynigger",,Anonymous,1490454293639.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,CA,,1494709271 125419127,125420626,2017-05-13 21:07:01,Bump for PDS,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494709621 125419127,125420871,2017-05-13 21:09:27,">>125419818 >Burger >Communist FUCKING KEK",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann-Hoppe.jpg,9oYfzoaM1h0laAcSL4AKwQ==,BR,,1494709767 125419127,125421427,2017-05-13 21:14:48,">>125419818 >being a communist faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494710088 125419127,125422330,2017-05-13 21:23:45,>>125419818,,Anonymous,can you hear them coming.jpg,AFxDmmP/+pD99nswZhx3Jg==,BR,,1494710625 125419127,125423910,2017-05-13 21:39:33,Paleolibertarian master race reporting in. If you're Ancap and not paleo what the fuck are you even doing?,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1494711573 125419127,125424162,2017-05-13 21:42:04,">>125423910 this",,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,CA,,1494711724 125419127,125424752,2017-05-13 21:48:08,>>125424162,,Anonymous,Rothbard3.png,Ao8wXVVOFjOX7bswWhQDBA==,US,,1494712088 125419127,125426103,2017-05-13 22:01:47,">>125419980 >>125420871 >>125421427 >>125422330",,Anonymous,1492462839.jpg,0gT0aYQpIPlBQOi28aW4pQ==,US,,1494712907 125419127,125426618,2017-05-13 22:07:18,">>125426103 Woah... I hate libertarianism now",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494713238 125419127,125428180,2017-05-13 22:23:27,,,Anonymous,Race.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,US,,1494714207 125491838,125491838,2017-05-14 12:24:42,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg [Remove] [Embed]",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,lrg.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1494764682 125491838,125493044,2017-05-14 12:36:24,Everyone who hates capitalism thinks Jews are the master race or is just a lazy nigger.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494765384 125491838,125493223,2017-05-14 12:38:15,Daily reminder that pic related is the real reason authoritarianfags fear capitalism.,,Anonymous,Wal_Mart_1.jpg,Jsi937Xz0U6y1JeMetf1Yw==,US,,1494765495 125491838,125493576,2017-05-14 12:41:43,,,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1494765703 125491838,125493926,2017-05-14 12:45:02,"Support Right right wing populism. These are the things we need to promote in the mainstream.",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,djBDEMhP/3vHQcYeNMeTXA==,US,,1494765902 125491838,125494074,2017-05-14 12:46:28,"Support right-wing populism. These are the things we need to promote in mainstream politics",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,djBDEMhP/3vHQcYeNMeTXA==,US,,1494765988 125491838,125494169,2017-05-14 12:47:23,"> Capitalist society > Corporations are bound to be formed > Corporations want the economy to grow since it means bigger profits for them. > They promote feminism because it leads to more people working, more people consuming and more people paying taxes. > They promote LGBT because in LGBT relationships, both partners tend to have full-time jobs > Birthrate declines, since most women are now working so they don’t have time for (many) children and because of LGBT relationships. > Corporations don’t want a shrinking population because it means fewer people consuming their products > Corporations now promote immigration, tolerance and anti-racism. > Country goes to shit. What is your opinion on this?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494766043 125491838,125494358,2017-05-14 12:49:11,"http://t.me/LibertarianRG Great comfy /lrg/ Telegram group",,Anonymous,1493049673001.jpg,gxncmLE6TVyeJTknArNDGw==,US,,1494766151 125491838,125494539,2017-05-14 12:50:52,">>125494169 Borders, corporations go to shit if they don't adapt",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494766252 125491838,125494577,2017-05-14 12:51:18,">>125494169 >be capitalist >promote trotskiist social justice revolutionary movements >sjw commies ram socialism down everyones throats. deadly if you care about capitalism, and freedom. These kinds corporations must be supressed. see ABOLISH RACIAL OR GROUP PRIVLIEGES. >>125494074",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494766278 125491838,125494668,2017-05-14 12:52:11,">>125494169 >Anarcho-capitalist society >Covenants are bound to be formed >Conservative covenants want to grow since it means better communities for them >They promote traditional households because it leads to greater happiness, less crime and higher trust >They promote sexual normalcy because in heteronormative relationships both partners are in communion with Nature >Birthrate increases, since most women are now stay at home moms, so they don't have time for work and because their husbands provide for them >Covenants don't want a shrinking population because it means fewer people upholding community standards >Covenants now promote traditionalism, hierarchy and respect for authority >Covenant becomes successful. Ancaps BTFO amirite",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494766331 125491838,125494766,2017-05-14 12:53:13,">>125493044 This is a factual statement",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494766393 125491838,125494867,2017-05-14 12:54:08,">>125491838 Black flag, yellow star https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38K9X5PMLRU",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494766448 125491838,125494963,2017-05-14 12:54:57,">>125491838 bump",,Anonymous,lrg.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1494766497 125491838,125495063,2017-05-14 12:55:58,"To me it seems that hoppean libertarianism is just fascism light. You psychically remove everything that isn't compatible with your society (e.g. commies, Muslims,...). After a while corporations will start promoting ""open society"" bullshit to get cheap labor (kind of what Soros does now). They will promote this through their media, movies, games, music,... You will either have to keep ""physically removing"" or just censor what can be broadcast-ed on television, on radios and so on. You naturally choose the latter because it's the cheapest way. At this point your no longer libertarian imo. You have removed commies, Muslims,.. and censored everything in the media. You're basically a fascist society now.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494766558 125491838,125495320,2017-05-14 12:58:22,">>125495063 *at this point *you're",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494766702 125491838,125495653,2017-05-14 13:02:04,">>125495063 I agree to a certain point, Freedom must be defened against tyrants and the libertiens that subvert it. call it fascism if you want i don't care. fine im a fascist. all you socialist and copratist fags will have to be crushed under my boot if thats what it takes to have a libertarian society. also that ""open society"" bullshit is not me, you cant import sharia niggers and expect them to understand the moral principle of liberty. FREEDOM COMES FROM WHITE WESTERN CIVILITY AND MORALITY. it should stay that way.",,Anonymous,Flag.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,US,,1494766924 125491838,125495702,2017-05-14 13:02:45,">>125493044 They kind of are the master race in the sense that they have the highest IQ and the most efficient religion. The fact they they think they're God's chosen people and they're better than everyone, will make sure they will form cohesive communities.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494766965 125491838,125495739,2017-05-14 13:03:17,,,Anonymous,usa9.jpg,hPRYkZe1YMnZH7fuPutAbQ==,FI,,1494766997 125491838,125495842,2017-05-14 13:04:13,">>125495739 >progress",,Anonymous,1486241154531.jpg,Ggkr0wi9GEyIc9VwyKlhEw==,US,,1494767053 125491838,125495908,2017-05-14 13:04:52,>>125495739,,Anonymous,lefty pol.png,Ia52TpcTDkr5BOxc/aij0Q==,BE,,1494767092 125491838,125495958,2017-05-14 13:05:21,>>125495842,,Anonymous,86eff9f68bfe02a02dbca1786875c8bc.jpg,Y+efnxqqeUSJr+kTRpEDSg==,FI,,1494767121 125491838,125496089,2017-05-14 13:06:32,">>125495702 Thanks for admitting socialist, and copratist economics comes from your perceived inferiority.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494767192 125491838,125497000,2017-05-14 13:15:56,,,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1494767756 125491838,125497845,2017-05-14 13:24:53,">>125494668 In ancap, corporations will be formed too. they will be more powerful then covenants and they will be able to brainwash people just the same way as I said here>>125494169",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494768293 125491838,125498154,2017-05-14 13:27:57,">We are not our brother's keepers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1RxKW-P5V8",,Anonymous,AynRandPaul.png,sFEj11pIKYFWjc+kLqpESA==,US,,1494768477 125491838,125498602,2017-05-14 13:32:02,">>125497845 Like I said, you must do what is necessary to preserve liberty. Those who wish to subvert it with will have to be dealt with either by ostracization or by force if necessary. >they will be more powerful then covenants Care to make an argument for that hypothetical? Or are you just gonna say you're right and thats that?",,Anonymous,Tucker.png,G3ntbYA6wn77pdLZEi56hw==,US,,1494768722 125491838,125500683,2017-05-14 13:51:08,">>125498602 >Care to make an argument for that hypothetical? A major corporation is also established in foreign countries and has more wealth and power than a local covenant. The covenants that are talked about here>>125494668 are more stable than a capitalist society, but in the short term, it won't generate as much wealth as a major international corporation. Basically just like it is now.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494769868 125491838,125501402,2017-05-14 13:58:01,">>125497845 ""Brainwash people"" lmao. Are you serious? If that's so then how come the Amish still exist, social conservatism still exists, traditionalists still exist, etc.? Social conservatism is undermined by state institutions trying to atomize people and strip away society's private hierarchies and private institutions (churches, clubs, families) so as to better tax them and expropriate them. In an anarcho-capitalist would you would have hundreds of thousands if not millions of covenants, big and small, that protected social conservative ideologies (only Catholics allowed, only heterosexuals allowed, only married couples allowed, only Portuguese allowed, etc.) and they could keep the leash tight on ""brainwashing"" through ostracism, parental guidance and expulsion if the ones affected start spewing their bullshit. Next.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494770281 125491838,125501540,2017-05-14 13:59:17,">>125500683 Who's talking about allowing foreign corporations to crush our communities? Threats to our social order will have to be dealt with. You have a problem with that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494770357 125491838,125502154,2017-05-14 14:05:13,>>125491838,,Anonymous,we will tread boston antifa .jpg,IqEoGvt5hOW3T+53HIW2wg==,US,,1494770713 125491838,125502186,2017-05-14 14:05:34,">>125495063 You're misunderstanding Hoppean libertarianism. You don't physically remove arbitrarily, you physically remove people who fail to fulfill the contracts they voluntarily subject themselves to. Open society and Soros only have power through government, no matter how much power Soros has, he will never dictate the rules in your house. Democracy is the proxy that allows media to brainwash people and actually achieve something. Obviously, anyone who wants to maintain a libertarian order will need to find a place that is not corruptible by democracy, otherwise libertarianism cannot last, meaning, they will need to go there where the contract is explicit about what will happen if you advocate for democracy within the limits of the covenant. In Hoppean libertarianism (which is just a simple description of the natural process after embracing anarcho capitalism), the limits of your power are in the limits of your property.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494770734 125491838,125502425,2017-05-14 14:07:47,">>125502154 Come and get it pussy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494770867 125491838,125502486,2017-05-14 14:08:23,">>125502154 Communism will never come to America.",,Anonymous,1494273475731.jpg,WcZ0TAoWqb+0VprInC2z9g==,US,,1494770903 125491838,125502559,2017-05-14 14:08:59,">>125501540 >Threats to our social order will have to be dealt with. You have a problem with that? Absolutely not. But I think that at that point you're basically a fascist society instead of a libertarian society, like I explained here:>>125495063 >>125501402 >If that's so then how come the Amish still exist, social conservatism still exists, traditionalists still exist, etc. More and more Amish people are leaving there society to live in a normal town/city. Conservatism an traditionalism is also in decline thanks to things like social media, tv,... how many women are raised conservatively and end up becoming whores? Media has always had a big impact on people (,especially on women). And ancap can never exist in the long term. It is only temporarily (pic related).",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494770939 125491838,125502915,2017-05-14 14:12:23,So if your ancap country is at war you could have a company selling weapons to the enemy with all the profit going to the owner of that company.,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494771143 125491838,125503111,2017-05-14 14:14:03,">>125502186 Even without democracy, if you can spread communist ideas well enough, you can cause a revolution. Same goes for other ideologies like for example: Islamism, nat.soc., socialism,.. How exactly does hopean libertarianism differ from fascism?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494771243 125491838,125503278,2017-05-14 14:15:31,">>125501402 >>125502559 forgot the pic",,Anonymous,ancap process.png,Y79DjLyJTCAxhcV3evA8IA==,BE,,1494771331 125491838,125503540,2017-05-14 14:17:48,">>125498154 beautiful",,Anonymous,1491117557078.png,p5kIr4PpvxpEjIC2KF1GUA==,US,,1494771468 125491838,125503695,2017-05-14 14:19:12,">>125502559 > I think that at that point you're basically a fascist Fine. Cry about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494771552 125491838,125503810,2017-05-14 14:20:24,">>125502559 You can't stop them. Ancap world would mean a free market in politics and ideologies. Don't be surprised if fringe ideologies attract only fringe people. I'd rather live in a smaller country where everyone is a white conservative right-winger than living in integration with others or going on a crusade or imperium like the fascist LARPers here want. >>125503111 Fascism: >Ultra-nationalism >Totalitarian state >Mixed economy >No freedom of association (what is good for the state is good for the individual) >No freedom of the press, expression, etc. >Dissenters are persecuted and murdered >Imperialism >Arbitrary legislation >Government propaganda everywhere Hoppean libertarianism: >Freedom of association (covenants, city-states, micro-nations, seasteading, private cities) >Voluntary association >Free market >Natural law >There is no ""dissent"" since everyone is free to live with like-minded communities >Privatized everything >physical removal & helicopter rides >private property rights",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494771624 125491838,125504395,2017-05-14 14:25:25,">>125503111 Initially, a group of die-hard libertarians will go to a covenant, this covenant will be prosperous, way more than any of the surrounding ones, and people will want to live there, so other covenants will form, with the same rules more or less, to cover the demand. Eventually, even people who thought communism was better will realize and will go live in covenants where communism is forbidden, and they will do this for self-interest. There's no room for revolution when you can clearly show which model brings prosperity. Also, it's not the same to revolt against an oppressive regime than against free association, what will they revolt against? Their decision to live in poor covenants? >How exactly does hopean libertarianism differ from fascism? Voluntary association and dissociation and multiple potential economic models without central authority. Tbh your definition of fascism all throughout your posts is quite narrow minded, fascism is not just about isolating yourself from people who want to hurt you, yet you're painting it like if it was.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494771925 125491838,125504536,2017-05-14 14:26:41,">>125503695 I don't mind it. I'm just stating that you might as well call yourself a fascist then. I personally think fascism is an ideology that could work very well. >>125503810 Like it says here:>>125503278, I'm just saying ancap does not work in the long run. Sooner or later a more authoritarian ideology will take over.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494772001 125491838,125504642,2017-05-14 14:27:47,">>125504536 I'm not going to debate you over a damn anarcho-ball picture. And don't confuse power with authority please.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494772067 125491838,125505188,2017-05-14 14:32:49,">>125504536 I'm a libertarian who's willing to do what's necessary. Fascists don't care about their citizens. They care the imaginary collective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494772369 125491838,125505724,2017-05-14 14:38:14,">>125504395 >Tbh your definition of fascism all throughout your posts is quite narrow minded, fascism is not just about isolating yourself from people who want to hurt you, yet you're painting it like if it was. I just meant that when you forbid communism, Islam, nat.soc., socialism,... and censor all the media to protect the interests of your country, you are moving towards fascism. What I meant to say was, where exactly lies the line between libertarianism and fascism? Like I said in this post:>>125502186 >>125504642 The ball makes a fine point and isn't really meant to be humorous. >>125505188 A united group of people, will always win against a group of individuals. If you are serving the interests of the collective, you are also serving the interests of the individuals. And how is the collective imaginary? The collective is the people of the country you are a citizen of.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494772694 125491838,125505737,2017-05-14 14:38:20,">>125502154 Always reminds me of this.",,Anonymous,together-against-the-state.png,lzShzVM9pwSxnh6i+73akw==,SI,,1494772700 125491838,125505969,2017-05-14 14:40:40,">>125504395 >>125505724 I meant to say: like I said in this post:>>125495063",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494772840 125491838,125506039,2017-05-14 14:41:22,">>125505737 Please delet this and never post it again.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494772882 125491838,125506056,2017-05-14 14:41:31,">>125505737 That would never work. AnCom is literally a paradox. There is no state, but there is a status quo that requires force to be implemented. When you force a status quo, you create a state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494772891 125491838,125506311,2017-05-14 14:43:41,">>125505737 fuck off",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494773021 125491838,125507021,2017-05-14 14:50:38,">>125505737 Faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494773438 125491838,125507514,2017-05-14 14:55:23,">>125506039 >>125506311 >>125507021 Kek >>125506056 I think it's supposed to be more libsoc rather than ancom. And I don't see anything wrong with a society based on mutual organizations as long as they don't steal.",,Anonymous,together-against-the-state poster.jpg,Vws4RiLFPvofJ61tQp8Xjg==,SI,,1494773723 125491838,125507849,2017-05-14 14:58:23,">>125507514 >all classes are unfit to govern Christ, the cringe I wonder what these so-called ""left"" libertarians think about Hoppe's natural elite hierarchy, social conservatism and physical removal. Really gets the noggin' joggin'.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494773903 125491838,125507892,2017-05-14 14:58:42,">>125493576 This text should come with pic related. I'll add another point to it. How to achieve a libertarian society: 1. Get a young traditional wife > 2. Get a fine job > 3. Make tons of babies > 4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other) > 5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing > 6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants > 7. Privately educate your kids. Send them to good, elite, schools where they can fulfill their quest for knowledge and make great contacts. > 8. Vote, support parties/think tanks/people that want to reduce govt and degeneracy. > 9. Become a central point in your community's affairs. Know the local Father, the politicians, your neighbors, your kids' friends' parents, and so on. Invest a lot into local change. Godspeed.",,^~,prosper.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,PT,,1494773922 125491838,125508138,2017-05-14 15:00:54,">>125507849 Pretty sure he would agree that even kings aren't fit to rule.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1494774054 125491838,125508681,2017-05-14 15:05:52,">>125507892 Beautiful. I made the image because it's a strong message. perhaps we could get a master image combining the message and imagery together.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494774352 125491838,125508734,2017-05-14 15:06:17,here's a shitty andy i made fresh of the presses,,Anonymous,Augusto-Pinochet-trace.png,mhHYw4OjxuiWKpJOHF9+Ww==,DE,,1494774377 125491838,125508916,2017-05-14 15:07:39,">>125508681 Yes, but 4chan's limit is 4MB. The pic I posted is almost that. So you'd have to resize somehow.",,^~,,,PT,,1494774459 125491838,125509261,2017-05-14 15:10:53,">>125508916 Yeah no worries, I can figure something out. I've never maxed out an image. >>125508734 Saved. I like AnCap Andy. He's a cool guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494774653 125491838,125509397,2017-05-14 15:12:05,">>125494169 In a capitalist society big companies don't have influence over the government.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1494774725 125491838,125509409,2017-05-14 15:12:10,">>125509261 And maybe up the quality of the source pics, maybe get other ones. That would be an awesome pic for these threads.",,^~,make-my-day-hhh.jpg,tgbVnhziycImt8BNTrjHnA==,PT,,1494774730 125491838,125509441,2017-05-14 15:12:26,">>125505737 Massacre all communists, anarchist or not",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494774746 125491838,125509636,2017-05-14 15:14:12,">>125508734 Love the OC. Saved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpIS6qdr670",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494774852 125491838,125509774,2017-05-14 15:15:35,">>125509397 Bu they do have influence of the people, with Hollywood for example. they can get the people to vote in a certain way and if there is no voting they could even get the people to start a revolution (in extreme cases.)",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494774935 125491838,125509790,2017-05-14 15:15:47,">>125508138 >what is natural elites",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494774947 125491838,125510324,2017-05-14 15:20:31,">>125509409 Will do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494775231 125491838,125510729,2017-05-14 15:24:14,">>125509774 True, but would a company really hire a lesbian with less proficiency? You want to hire the best available, people with mental issues aren't the best available. No. I'm not saying homosexuality is mental illness.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1494775454 125491838,125510760,2017-05-14 15:24:27,Capitalists can never compete.,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1493778182839.jpg,HnXGLjvKsFg8rJ5STpmxtg==,US,,1494775467 125491838,125511034,2017-05-14 15:26:41,">>125504395 >Eventually, even people who thought communism was better will realize and will go live in covenants Not necessarily. There are lots of teenagers nowadays who live in capitalist societies and have relatively rich parents and still support communism. They will just claim that these covenants are wealthy because they ""exploit"" other people. People have revolted against freedom of association before (during the civil rights era), maybe not intentionally, but still.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494775601 125491838,125511202,2017-05-14 15:28:04,">>125510760 The irony of that sentence...",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494775684 125491838,125511245,2017-05-14 15:28:24,">>125510760 Kek",,Anonymous,image.jpg,HXE8+NOED3FpOHhcQw3iRg==,FR,,1494775704 125491838,125511268,2017-05-14 15:28:38,">>125511034 So those starry-eyed kids buy their own covenant to try out democratic socialism or communism, fail miserably, everyone laughs at them and they come back with their tails between their legs. Problem solved. And before you reply ""But what if they want to overthrow the others?"" Private-fucking-security famalam.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494775718 125491838,125511637,2017-05-14 15:31:43,">>125511268 They will claim that the reason they failed and the libertarian covenants didn't, is because the libertarian covenants have all the resources or something like that. Just like nowadays communists still make up excuses for the failings of communist states.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494775903 125491838,125512417,2017-05-14 15:38:30,">>125511637 And like I said, private security. Stop moving the goalpost I already answered this question a thousand times.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494776310 125491838,125512420,2017-05-14 15:38:30,">>125494074 >Slash welfare That is not fucking happening since women vote and riots would break out. >Crush criminals In a libertarian society the government would not have the power to administer instant punishment as that is so corruptable in nature giving the government that power. Society needs to be less corrupt not more. >Get rid of the bums Using force to clear the streets is not a libertarian value as that violates the NAP. The only time force can be used is if the bums start it. >Defend family values Legalize domestic violence and the bullshit marital rape laws and then i will agree with you.",,Rican asshole,,,US,,1494776310 125491838,125513232,2017-05-14 15:45:23,">>125512420 I didn't write any of that. Guess who did .",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1494776723 125491838,125513335,2017-05-14 15:46:14,">lolbertarians are right wing what?",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1494776774 125491838,125513406,2017-05-14 15:46:58,">>125511637 They will need to renounce to make such claims, no landowner will want communists lowering their property value so they will include provisions against that kind of talk. You said it yourself, these commies live in Capitalist countries, but in the case we're describing, they will need to renounce to their beliefs if they want to be commies from mom's basement.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494776818 125491838,125514189,2017-05-14 15:53:24,">>125512420 >government would not have the power to administer instant punishment Rothbard meant this in regard to rioters. Which would cover your first point. >Using force to clear the streets Why should bums be entitled to occupy public property? >Legalize domestic violence Nah.",,Anonymous,1468979327815.png,lkvo2GjUQv27o4AHLq4NdA==,SI,,1494777204 125491838,125515179,2017-05-14 16:01:56,Bump,,Anonymous,dude.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,US,,1494777716 125491838,125516596,2017-05-14 16:13:59,bumping with red pills,,Anonymous,1461029508928.jpg,e7vmyynlh/1tuMX84HbbpQ==,PT,,1494778439 125491838,125516658,2017-05-14 16:14:25,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1494778465 125491838,125516707,2017-05-14 16:14:53,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1494778493 125491838,125516756,2017-05-14 16:15:17,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1494778517 125491838,125517032,2017-05-14 16:17:36,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1494778656 125491838,125517075,2017-05-14 16:17:56,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1494778676 125491838,125517120,2017-05-14 16:18:15,,,Anonymous,hoppe masses.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,PT,,1494778695 125491838,125517181,2017-05-14 16:18:46,">>125516707 Hoppe is very wordy. We need to condense the message for normalfags. That's why I prefer to quote Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494778726 125491838,125517244,2017-05-14 16:19:21,">>125517181 agreed",,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1494778761 125491838,125517299,2017-05-14 16:19:45,,,Anonymous,libertarianism v2.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PT,,1494778785 125491838,125517422,2017-05-14 16:20:43,,,Anonymous,ancap reading.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,PT,,1494778843 125491838,125517586,2017-05-14 16:22:01,">>125517244 >>125517299 >>125517422 three d.ubs in a row",,Anonymous,great austrian minds.png,V6MFunytZh+SZ158PI780w==,PT,,1494778921 125491838,125517636,2017-05-14 16:22:21,,,Anonymous,hoppe expulsion.png,MYXxcYpUYsv/VE/vI3UFRw==,PT,,1494778941 125491838,125517684,2017-05-14 16:22:43,,,Anonymous,lrg immigration.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,PT,,1494778963 125491838,125517761,2017-05-14 16:23:20,,,Anonymous,the hoppean.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,PT,,1494779000 125491838,125517857,2017-05-14 16:24:03,,,Anonymous,the general.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,PT,,1494779043 125491838,125518711,2017-05-14 16:31:00,,,Anonymous,The_Revolutionary.png,V1/wvwPgIK9i7A5zk9Wldg==,US,,1494779460 125491838,125518747,2017-05-14 16:31:20,,,Anonymous,The_Reactionary.png,a9mKWWlXab4tPn2c5nqSDQ==,US,,1494779480 125491838,125518913,2017-05-14 16:32:38,">>125491838 Libertarians are such cancer. You're probably the most hated group on this board aside from antifa.",,Anonymous,quote-the-money-pigs-of-capitalist-democracy-money-has-made-slaves-of-us-money-is-the-curse-joseph-goebbels-134-45-64.jpg,3lSLG68/3jw6V3eXXSHnhw==,US,,1494779558 125491838,125519361,2017-05-14 16:36:45,">>125518913 >go to /nsg/ >w-we're not socialists guize,our socialism is different from marxism socialism >go to /lrg/ >hurr durr smash capitalism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494779805 125491838,125519658,2017-05-14 16:39:15,">>125518913 Authoritards hate the truth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494779955 125491838,125519686,2017-05-14 16:39:29,">>125519361 I don't give a shit. I AM a socialist. A NATIONAL Socialist.",,Anonymous,strasserism master race.jpg,eTPHEaYE2koLMWsr+y8tXw==,US,,1494779969 125491838,125519935,2017-05-14 16:41:33,">>125519686 >Strasserism Lol, you're about as relevant as the geofags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494780093 125491838,125520030,2017-05-14 16:42:17,">>125519686 kys",,^~,,,PT,,1494780137 125491838,125520113,2017-05-14 16:42:58,">>125519935 We're rising faggot and soon all libertarians will be put up against a wall. >>125520030 You first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494780178 125491838,125520130,2017-05-14 16:43:07,>>125519686,,Anonymous,1488056840752.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,GB,,1494780187 125491838,125520608,2017-05-14 16:47:03,">>125520113 >We're rising faggot and soon all libertarians will be put up against a wall. Top LARP, faggot. I'd like to see you do shit beyond shitposting and LARPing in your room",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494780423 125491838,125520742,2017-05-14 16:48:06,">>125519686 Socialism = Internationalism You can make the most incoherent rabbling but seing all men as equal can't go well with race preservation",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494780486 125491838,125521303,2017-05-14 16:52:53,">>125519361 >>125519686",,Anonymous,socialist.png,Qkwz9rrOD4hFohskMfN0gw==,BE,,1494780773 125491838,125522471,2017-05-14 17:03:00,Liberty bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494781380 125491838,125522892,2017-05-14 17:06:28,,,Anonymous,based anime ancap grill.png,SoP5d3E8mNpq9UkRDRPqPA==,PT,,1494781588 125491838,125523606,2017-05-14 17:12:54,If you're an Anarcho-Capitalist and not a PaleoLibertarian what the fuck are you even doing? Ditch that socially liberal gayness and join the master race.,,Anonymous,Badge_0.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1494781974 125491838,125523805,2017-05-14 17:14:40,">>125523606 >implying anarcho-capitalists can't be paleo",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494782080 125491838,125523960,2017-05-14 17:16:09,">>125523606 Rothbard, Hoppe, Rockwell, etc. are all AnCaps and they're not into ""liberal gayness."" >implying I'm not paleo and mean",,Anonymous,when the communist slips off the helicopter.png,csW5xl6/mwctUz4fmIQwfg==,PT,,1494782169 125491838,125523983,2017-05-14 17:16:20,">>125523805 I am both.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494782180 125491838,125523990,2017-05-14 17:16:23,">>125523805 >implying he implied that",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494782183 125491838,125524053,2017-05-14 17:16:57,">>125491838 >>125523687 >>125523687 >>125523687 come here and take this red pill before its to late folks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494782217 125491838,125524129,2017-05-14 17:17:30,">>125523990 Lol thank you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494782250 125491838,125524988,2017-05-14 17:25:05,,,Anonymous,neon hoppe.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,PT,,1494782705 125491838,125525279,2017-05-14 17:27:40,">>125509397 A-are you for real? You can't be serious.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1494782860 125491838,125525452,2017-05-14 17:29:14,"Fuck off reddit, /pol/ is an anti-capitalist board.",,Anonymous,1492462816.jpg,W/UUwtWGhANrWWV68UkCKA==,US,,1494782954 125491838,125526280,2017-05-14 17:36:15,">>125525452 Lol get lost fag. /pol/ is and always we be pro Capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494783375 125491838,125526714,2017-05-14 17:40:06,>tfw you pretend you're anarcho-capitalist but are actually anarcho-egoist,,Anonymous,S P O O K.jpg,F5LV7aYbq9s6TMU7ukfjpw==,US,,1494783606 125491838,125527522,2017-05-14 17:46:49,">>125526280 This. /pol/ used to be a libertarian board until stormniggers invaded",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494784009 125491838,125527729,2017-05-14 17:49:01,">>125526714 At least you're honest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494784141 125491838,125528634,2017-05-14 17:57:23,">>125525452 >Fuck off reddit, /pol/ is an an-capitalist board. FTFY",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494784643 125491838,125528961,2017-05-14 18:00:28,">>125526714 Hell I still have issues with monopolies and warlords...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494784828 125491838,125529440,2017-05-14 18:05:11,">>125528961 Monopolies and warlords aren't a problem, as long as you equip yourself with (metaphorical) helicopters to deal with them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494785111 125491838,125529452,2017-05-14 18:05:20,">>125494169 You just replaced Jew with corporations. I don't think we can consider this to be a very original thought.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494785120 125491838,125529580,2017-05-14 18:06:34,"Doesn't anyone think that the helicopter memes on this board are somewhat absurd since Pinochet was a friend to Milton Friedman, the Austrians go-to punching bag?",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1494785194 125491838,125530369,2017-05-14 18:14:20,">>125529452 Most of the corporation are owned by Jews anyway. But I honestly believe the same shit would be happening if there were no Jews, be it at a slower rate maybe. Multinationals have no loyalty towards any country and will only care about profits (, as they should). The key to solve this is imo, to have a country that allows the free market as much as possible, but the moment ""the free market"" starts interfering with social cohesion, the state should intervene. Which means for instance: >banning everything that promotes feminism >banning everything that promotes egalitarianism >banning everything that promotes anti-racism >...",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1494785660 125491838,125530399,2017-05-14 18:14:38,">>125529580 I might need a little more than your say so before I believe that those two had a friendly relationship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494785678 125491838,125530559,2017-05-14 18:16:27,">>125529580 I am unironically Austrian and pro helicopter removal. It's one of our sacred redpills. Anti helicopter AnCaps are plebs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494785787 125491838,125530785,2017-05-14 18:18:34,">>125529440 For overt stuff, yeah - your che tshirted fuckwit commie agitator. I'm thinking more of deliberate subversion by spook types. The weakening from within that they are so good at...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494785914 125491838,125531152,2017-05-14 18:22:17,">>125494169 Aaaand this is why we need a constitution banning Jews and shitskins.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1494786137 125491838,125531272,2017-05-14 18:23:25,">>125530785 >The weakening from within Centralized systems are much more susceptible to those attacks.",,Anonymous,AnCap insurance CEO.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,SI,,1494786205 125491838,125532355,2017-05-14 18:33:13,">>125516596 If I understand this correctly, is that to say a few centuries ago the common people would just say, 'Oh look the king is skirmishing again', but now we're almost at the point of 1984 where hatred is manufactured to justify constant turmoil?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494786793 125491838,125533562,2017-05-14 18:44:30,">>125530785 That's why we must not intellectualize and muh NAP when it comes to subversives. The attack choppers must be unleashed.",,Anonymous,1476232971105.jpg,4jYy7ueJGaKURr+nYHqEaQ==,US,,1494787470 125491838,125534064,2017-05-14 18:49:08,,,Anonymous,Andy_Cap.jpg,EmZBvI5AbwVA5E1QyP599Q==,US,,1494787748 125491838,125534127,2017-05-14 18:49:40,,,Anonymous,1472087410663.png,khiX+t//5xkTmjtmjOGDpQ==,US,,1494787780 125491838,125534622,2017-05-14 18:54:19,">>125534127 Kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494788059 125491838,125535280,2017-05-14 19:00:43,,,Anonymous,1489244678938.jpg,T2u2ye2cHduqpbGKxXYKOA==,US,,1494788443 125491838,125535545,2017-05-14 19:03:15,">>125530399 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pinochet+and+milton+friedman",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1494788595 125491838,125536512,2017-05-14 19:12:38,"fuck man, you only talk in which -ism club you belong in here. jesus i thought these threads would hold some value.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494789158 125491838,125537042,2017-05-14 19:17:49,Comfy quiet thread. Tell ya mom's I love em.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494789469 125491838,125537450,2017-05-14 19:21:56,">>125535545 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzgMNLtLJ2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUtM2kOF7RU He tried to help the people of Chile despite taking a hit in reputation. I highly doubt he was friendly with him considering his stance on centralized governments.",,Anonymous,Milton smh.gif,n/JKFKWxmRx+eb86q6TFwA==,SI,,1494789716 125491838,125538418,2017-05-14 19:31:03,,,Anonymous,goodnews.png,ErreVRnAjga2CjD0YfLNOQ==,US,,1494790263 125491838,125539802,2017-05-14 19:43:40,">>125514189 >Why should bums be entitled to occupy public property? Because it is public property not private property. >Nah. If you want family values to exist then you must take women's rights away and restore male power over women. If you don't want family to thrive and you want your society to die then you go the way it currently is with taking away men's power and handing it to the women.",,Rican asshole,,,US,,1494791020 125491838,125541480,2017-05-14 19:59:02,">>125520113 >put up against a wall Your leader Heimbach is friends with Cantwell. Good luck with that one, Cantwell alone has enough arms to supply an army.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494791942 125491838,125541766,2017-05-14 20:01:47,">>125541480 Ayy Slovakia what's up my man",,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1494792107 125491838,125542052,2017-05-14 20:04:28,">>125541766 Haven't popped by in a while, good to see everything is going well. Not too many statists in this thread, which might be a good thing or a bad thing. Finally returning to the frontlines of the meme war tomorrow, have to attack a few (((internet security))) assholes who would like my free speech to be terminated.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494792268 125491838,125542785,2017-05-14 20:11:16,">>125542052 Fuckin fags. I've been checking out that revolutionary conservative fella you suggested, pretty cool guy. Anyway good to see the death squad members around.",,Anonymous,ancap_andy_commies_matt_furie.png,NN7furIBj4aVxZ0usDFpFQ==,US,,1494792676 125491838,125543863,2017-05-14 20:22:19,">>125491838 I agree with you on most shit but >Not being a geolibertarian >2017 Right libertarianism was perfected by and died with Hoppe, who took it to its logical conclusion and showed why it just devolves into more statism. It's amazing how, despite Rothbard calling himself an anarcho-Lockean, so few right libertarians have actually read Locke and most importantly understand that private property is only justifiable within the boundaries of the Lockean Proviso. Literally the entire basis of the movement is a wrong reading of Lockean homesteading theory. The movement has no justification for its property rights ethic beyond appealing to Locke, who would disagree wholeheartedly.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494793339 125491838,125544739,2017-05-14 20:30:36,">>125542785 Yeah, he gave a speech in Boston the other day. He's good to go.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494793836 125491838,125544787,2017-05-14 20:31:00,">>125543863 >Died with Hoppe Reminder that geofags serve a purpose, they get nu-ancaps to join them and maybe nu-ancaps will leave us alone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494793860 125491838,125545235,2017-05-14 20:35:25,">>125544787 >No rebuttal Colour me surprised.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494794125 125491838,125546169,2017-05-14 20:44:38,">>125545235 I don't want to debate shitlibs. I'm hanging out with my family.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494794678 125491838,125547575,2017-05-14 20:59:20,">>125545235 Keep on fighting the good fight brother",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1494795560 125491838,125547826,2017-05-14 21:02:05,">>125544787 Its actually the reverse. You start out as an angsty meme posting ancap eventually read some libertarian philosophy and find out that geoist/geolibertarian/georgist ideas are actually practical and morally justified",,Anonymous,commonvsstateprop.jpg,2HUhFgaPW/aBdZC7xmFcDg==,US,,1494795725 125491838,125548663,2017-05-14 21:10:59,">>125491838 Just watched some videos explaining ""libertarian-fascism"" and it just feels like everything went full retard for these Far Rightists. Main argument I heard basically from AnCaps was: ""if you call me a fascist long enough, then I guess I am one!"" Not an excuse to take up the fascist label. Never will be. Be an AnCap, fine. But fascism has as deadly a history as communism, and there's no reason to intermingle with it or its ideology. Be the better man! Be Pro-Liberty and Pro-Freedom! No book-burning, no revisionist history, no denial of constitutional freedoms!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494796259 125491838,125548769,2017-05-14 21:12:17,">>125547826 Good take them off my hands. I don't want socialized land fags in my movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494796337 125491838,125548897,2017-05-14 21:13:45,">>125548769 >movement",,Anonymous,shit2-500x500.jpg,CSm+NeGxKrI3XeEhQUGC9Q==,US,,1494796425 125653319,125653319,2017-05-15 17:26:01,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1491259332524.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,CA,,1494869161 125653319,125653371,2017-05-15 17:26:28,,,Anonymous,why keynesianism is shit.png,Z/MRXULF8FIy6qVz43VAOA==,CA,,1494869188 125745543,125745543,2017-05-16 09:52:36,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads","/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - KILL EM ALL, LET THE MARKET SORT EM OUT!",Anonymous,lrg.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1494928356 125745543,125745622,2017-05-16 09:53:41,">>125745543 ideology for juvenile dipshits.",,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,9nleGZkZhJyT/b6i9THMvg==,SI,,1494928421 125745543,125745686,2017-05-16 09:54:29,"This is a special revolutionary edition, grab your guns folks. We're down to fucking waste these commies.",,Anonymous,Wal_Mart_1.jpg,Jsi937Xz0U6y1JeMetf1Yw==,US,,1494928469 125745543,125745787,2017-05-16 09:55:39,">>125745622 >Degeneracy >Success Yeah ok faggot. No one will come into your dildo shop and fuck you up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494928539 125745543,125746282,2017-05-16 10:01:04,">>125745787 ""Degeneracy"" sells, just look around you. No one want's to join your amish autistic covenant, people would rather party hard to Ke$ha and Miley Cyrus. What makes Hoppean retards think unrestrained capitalism will bring about a conservative society?",,Anonymous,traditional girl.jpg,TCN/WHNYfCQtZV293pa2lg==,SI,,1494928864 125745543,125746749,2017-05-16 10:05:53,">>125746282 Because of you give all your money to a slag you get nothing of value in return. You trade because you expect to be better off after that trade. People who spend their labor on degeneracy will find themselves starving. I don't see the problem with degenerates draining their Bank accounts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494929153 125745543,125747200,2017-05-16 10:09:58,">>125746282 >What makes Hoppean retards think unrestrained capitalism will bring about a conservative society? I don't care. I just don't like taxes.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1494929398 125745543,125747202,2017-05-16 10:10:00,Support right wing populism. Teach you young to despise socialism and degeneracy.,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism_0.png,djBDEMhP/3vHQcYeNMeTXA==,US,,1494929400 125745543,125747529,2017-05-16 10:13:04,">>125746282 Utilitarian argument. Trying to justify your belief that a society will be more successful than other purely on economic reasons. You know what, perhaps filling the country with immigrants, forbidding people to climb mountains, and selling only water and rice are economically sound decisions, but value is subjective, some people might value booming economy, others might value more the maintenance of cultural values, who are you to define what success is? Not only that, but you're talking to libertarians, we don't give a fuck about other people's success. There's no jealousy here.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494929584 125745543,125747747,2017-05-16 10:15:09,">>125745543 The only people who will get removed on the day of the rope are you kike-worshiping scumbags. Greed kills nations.",,Anonymous,1491547875872.gif,G6rDm+FlnmWtGK40S1FytA==,US,,1494929709 125745543,125747764,2017-05-16 10:15:17,,,Anonymous,18519909_1393746170715716_4758075378587943193_n.jpg,9GJEOp+gFTK+kgUked70Fw==,BR,,1494929717 125745543,125748137,2017-05-16 10:18:42,">>125747747 Eat shit, niggerloving bootlicker.",,Anonymous,don_t_tread_on_me_confederate_flag_3_x_5_1.jpg,R5UhtC+lZRG9OGE1kSQzXw==,US,,1494929922 125745543,125748256,2017-05-16 10:19:51,What is a private death squad and how would it work in Ancapistan?,,Anonymous,lrg.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1494929991 125745543,125748309,2017-05-16 10:20:23,What's libertarian opinion on universal basic income?,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494930023 125745543,125748528,2017-05-16 10:22:37,">>125748309 Commie garbage. >>125748256 The private death squads will cleanse this Earth of socialist tyrants. Have very little to do with ancapistan after that other than for special defense operations. The SS of the free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494930157 125745543,125748561,2017-05-16 10:23:02,">>125747747 >you kike-worshiping scumbags. here's an ancap making a video about the jewish question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1494930182 125745543,125749006,2017-05-16 10:27:16,">>125748528 Explain",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494930436 125745543,125749185,2017-05-16 10:29:20,">>125748309 On an economic point of view, it's a disaster. You should never have access to other people's production without having produced something first. People who don't serve society should not receive benefits. If we took all the money from everyone in the world and gave it to a retard, would we be better off, or worse? Leaving wealth in the hands of those who multiply it is always wiser for society. In a social point of view, you don't have to leave your house and interact with others to make a living, you can isolate yourself from judgement from your neighbors, that can only bring degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494930560 125745543,125749356,2017-05-16 10:31:02,">>125747200 good, that's the spirit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494930662 125745543,125749374,2017-05-16 10:31:14,">>125746282 >What makes Hoppean retards think unrestrained capitalism will bring about a conservative society? Hey asshole, we don't care about what the fuck society is. I want to live as a conservative Christian and I don't give a shit about how the guys in Williamsburg dress, it is not of my concern, nor is it anyone's job to dictate what you wear, eat and celebrate. Who the fuck cares if society as a whole is conservative, just live in a conservative neighborhood",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1494930674 125745543,125749556,2017-05-16 10:33:24,">>125747764 kek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494930804 125745543,125750226,2017-05-16 10:40:41,">>125748528 Seems more like a vigilante death squad than a private one. A noble undertaking, nonetheless. Anyone got some Right-wing/Private Death Squad aesthetic images to post?",,Anonymous,removing commies.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,US,,1494931241 125745543,125750326,2017-05-16 10:41:45,">>125749006 You get paid for your labor, your product. NEETS don't do shit so they don't get shit. No need for redistribution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494931305 125745543,125750415,2017-05-16 10:42:45,>>125750226,,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,US,,1494931365 125745543,125751446,2017-05-16 10:53:04,>>125750226,,Anonymous,1491774328231_0.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1494931984 125745543,125751980,2017-05-16 10:58:28,">>125747200 This",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1494932308 125745543,125753206,2017-05-16 11:10:23,">>125748309 depends on what the source of the UBI is. If your taxing income, capital gains or anything else consumptive, productive or, recreational the UBI is just stealing. However if your UBI comes from taxing the unimproved value of land then you've got a morally justified position since all land belongs to the commons",,Anonymous,commonvsstateprop.jpg,2HUhFgaPW/aBdZC7xmFcDg==,US,,1494933023 125745543,125754055,2017-05-16 11:18:03,"somewhat relevant, it contains ""Basic Economics"" from Thomas Sowell and various econ/investing books https://mega.nz/:#F!1R0QATqZ!Eb1_M5KC9gkxK6w32R2ETw",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494933483 125745543,125754196,2017-05-16 11:19:23,">>125746282 No welfare state brah. Try reading Hoppe before you spout bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494933563 125745543,125754231,2017-05-16 11:19:40,">>125753206 Georgists get out",,Anonymous,compass.png,K9TjTN/OtCwLNhsUpSlETA==,US,,1494933580 125745543,125754506,2017-05-16 11:22:03,">>125754231 >geolibertarian",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1494933723 125745543,125754537,2017-05-16 11:22:20,">>125748309 Taking money from producers and giving it to non-producers, i.e. socialism. It's garbage and it will raise people's time preferences, giving birth to an underclass of jovial parasites and reducing the comparative advantages of being employed instead of being a slob.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494933740 125745543,125754837,2017-05-16 11:25:03,">>125754506 >>125753206 where do these come from ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494933903 125745543,125754929,2017-05-16 11:26:00,">>125754837 https://sites.google.com/site/justindkeith/home/geolibertarian-faq enjoy",,Anonymous,game-design-3-638.jpg,aFcFBJvxgU7NP2S7iy2Ijw==,US,,1494933960 125745543,125755164,2017-05-16 11:28:15,">>125754929 thx i'll look into it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494934095 125745543,125755540,2017-05-16 11:31:40,">>125746282 >""Hitler pls stop me from fapping to traps!!"" Pathetic.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1494934300 125745543,125755819,2017-05-16 11:34:00,">>125746282 The aim of ancap isn't to shape society in your image, it's to give everyone the freedom to create their own",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1494934440 125745543,125755843,2017-05-16 11:34:12,">>125755164 Tortured rationalizations According to royal libertarians, land becomes private property when one mixes one's labor with it. And mixing what is yours with what is not yours in order to own the whole thing is considered great sport. But the notion is filled with problems. How much labor does it take to claim land, and how much land can one claim for that labor? And for how long can one make that claim? According to classical liberals, land belonged to the user for as long as the land was being used, and no longer. But according to royal libertarians, land belongs to the first user, forever. So, do the oceans belong to the heirs of the first person to take a fish out or put a boat in? Does someone who plows the same field each year own only one field, while someone who plows a different field each year owns dozens of fields? Should the builder of the first transcontinental railroad own the continent? Shouldn't we at least have to pay a toll to cross the tracks? Are there no common rights to the earth at all? To royal libertarians there are not, but classical liberals recognized that unlimited ownership of land never flowed from use, but from the state: Fun essay pointing out how the right side of the LP are actually state privileged half assed liberty hating shills http://geolib.com/essays/sullivan.dan/royallib.html",,Anonymous,tj.jpg,iRwX2q2H1PS6JJv9cVQYvw==,US,,1494934452 125745543,125756079,2017-05-16 11:36:25,">>125755843 >Royal libertarians Are saying that we be Kings? Also, rents due. Pay up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494934585 125745543,125756099,2017-05-16 11:36:33,">>125754231 Agorism isn't really that leftist, anon. Agorism should be right besides Ancapball. Also rate my blackmarket activity.",,Anonymous,liberty blackmarket thread.jpg,CGTHEn+tObcBYM4ZzzEeGQ==,ES,,1494934593 125745543,125756505,2017-05-16 11:40:08,">>125756079 >pay rent reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee",,Anonymous,k41V9sG.jpg,ZyhaoL9vTAUfTbHmXq59+A==,US,,1494934808 125745543,125756549,2017-05-16 11:40:32,">>125756099 >a Spaniard into tobacco black market the stereotypes are true also good job for keeping your shit untaxed,if you aren't LARPing",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494934832 125745543,125756832,2017-05-16 11:42:56,">>125756079 Ye be seeking state privilege yet call yourselves antistatest",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1494934976 125745543,125756968,2017-05-16 11:44:07,">>125756099 Sweet man, I was gonna start growing cause I wanted some quality tobacco. How'd you find something like this? Internet? Only tax free trade I do is local.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494935047 125745543,125758223,2017-05-16 11:53:49,">>125756549 The stereotype is the tobacco pack smuggler that goes to Andorra, Gibraltar or France for it, what I'm doing is buying it from national producers who merely shred it and send it to me via mail. It hasn't paid taxes to any government. The good thing is that gov has made tobacco so expensive that I could find someone to resell them 1/2 of the stuff for the price I get every kilogram and smoke for free forever or even make a profit if I wanted to. Though I don't really feel like doing so, I'm just helping my family not to waste so much money and not giving my shekels to whatever moron is in charge of the country. >>125756968 I find it in Craigslist-like type of websites. It isn't really that hard to find for me, though I don't know how it is over there.",,Anonymous,IMG_20170505_172117.jpg,URegRx5BVmL9wy0w6Nr+Rw==,ES,,1494935629 125745543,125758705,2017-05-16 11:57:27,">>125758223 >hasnt been taxed what is indirect taxation?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494935847 125745543,125759883,2017-05-16 12:06:21,">>125756832 >geo""libertarian"" >right wing kill yourself, geofag",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494936381 125745543,125759886,2017-05-16 12:06:23,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol6GA4dMZw4 Based Jared Taylor BTFOing anti-white propagandists. This man is a national treasure, you burgers treat him right. >tfw no Hoppean white ethnocentric covenant",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1494936383 125745543,125760391,2017-05-16 12:09:56,">>125756832 >Muh white landlord privilege. Left Libertarians everyone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494936596 125745543,125760612,2017-05-16 12:11:38,,,Anonymous,kikes.jpg,B9SqshDMkcPy4ksjovurSw==,DK,,1494936698 125745543,125760627,2017-05-16 12:11:45,">>125758705 I know, anon. It probably has been taxed when the producers bought the seeds, when they bought the machinery to shred the leaves, when I was charged for the delivery... Still, it is better than anything else.",,Anonymous,0040.jpg,U0T4WVQOrvKO/muYv6iObw==,ES,,1494936705 125745543,125761295,2017-05-16 12:17:17,">>125759883 property in land is the fruit of no mans labor.. its all just state granted property tell me why a libertarian would be okay with the state granting certain people privilege over others?",,Anonymous,willy.jpg,f5IEpTYdzB/nJ7KEauYaCQ==,US,,1494937037 125745543,125761441,2017-05-16 12:18:39,">>125760612 >putting Rand and Friedman next to Mises and Rothbard",,Anonymous,DON'T.jpg,5qmBTLLVaQFG1aUKXfG6XA==,PT,,1494937119 125745543,125761643,2017-05-16 12:20:21,">>125761295 That image is cancer. My problem with the ""rate of taxation"" is that it's anything above 0%",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494937221 125745543,125761882,2017-05-16 12:22:16,">>125761643 if youre a full on anarcho-whatever youre not actually libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494937336 125745543,125762474,2017-05-16 12:27:08,">>125761882 Taxation is theft, fuck the poor. Blaze it nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494937628 125745543,125763469,2017-05-16 12:35:11,">>125761295 >property in land is the fruit of no mans labor.. its all just state granted property By that logic you can't own anything privately. Land is a raw material like anything else; the material is not the product of your own labor because you can't create material out of nothing. You can mold material according to your will; in the case of land, this involves turning a field into a crop field, and so forth. Land is also a scarce resource like anything else. The task of ethics is to settle disputes and in the case of ownership, the only way to settle disputes is observe property rights. Fuck off with your geofaggotry you socialist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494938111 125745543,125765122,2017-05-16 12:49:40,">>125763469 You dont have a clue what your arguing against or for please re read >>125755843 >>125753206 and >>125754506",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1494938980 125745543,125765773,2017-05-16 12:55:10,">>125748256 Who is the guy between Rothbard an Hoppe? The one below Rand.",,anonononon,,,BR,,1494939310 125745543,125766402,2017-05-16 13:00:14,">>125765773 Ron Paul",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494939614 125745543,125767361,2017-05-16 13:09:19,">>125745543 > libertarian > right Pick one and only one. It's like saying ""anarcho-capitalism"", ""fascist communism"" or ""authoritarian libertarianism"".",,Anonymous,gtfb.jpg,3Hhy5WcZsa3k7xM8mt8qWw==,RO,,1494940159 125745543,125767571,2017-05-16 13:11:05,">>125767361 define right-wing because we are,but on our standarts",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1494940265 125745543,125767738,2017-05-16 13:12:40,>>125761441,,Anonymous,tread.webm,FDo2KdmCFItDgUwZFU6TTQ==,RO,,1494940360 125745543,125768025,2017-05-16 13:15:31,">>125767738 Hello gypsy-o",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,PT,,1494940531 125745543,125768043,2017-05-16 13:15:40,">>125767361 Freedom and natural law. You've been brainwashed by leftists to believe freedom means communism.",,Anonymous,1489244678938.jpg,T2u2ye2cHduqpbGKxXYKOA==,US,,1494940540 125784667,125784667,2017-05-16 15:43:34,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,GB,,1494949414 125784667,125784973,2017-05-16 15:46:02,">>125784667 Bump. I actually have a question for you. What is your thought about privately owned military? Will they be as loyal to the state as much as the current military is?",,Anonymous™ (sage),,,IL,,1494949562 125784667,125785356,2017-05-16 15:49:21,"Not long ago there was not a permanent army, but volunteers who joined each campaign. That could also be done now. Just recruit volunteers for each campaign across the western world",,Anonymous,IMG_1217.jpg,tdZKcYyLF0Mkc8DXGFH68w==,FI,,1494949761 125784667,125786015,2017-05-16 15:55:05,">>125785356 Will volunteers be as efficient though?",,Anonymous™ (sage),,,IL,,1494950105 125784667,125786713,2017-05-16 16:00:52,Why does Hoppe blame democracy when the real problem is capitalism?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494950452 125784667,125788257,2017-05-16 16:14:01,">>125786015 Do you see any military sign on those planes?",,Anonymous,IMG_1216.jpg,Ny+JvQe+PeH+oo6Ep1QUYA==,FI,,1494951241 125784667,125788279,2017-05-16 16:14:11,>>125786713,,Anonymous,1491701990550.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,GB,,1494951251 125784667,125788382,2017-05-16 16:14:57,">>125784973 Why do we need an army if everything is privatized? just let everyone defend their own property.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494951297 125784667,125788421,2017-05-16 16:15:15,">>125786015 Would it be as efficient to force people against their will to fight? I'm against laziness and degeneracy, but I think the people should cultivate an attitude of loyalty and bravery so that there is no need for conscription. A man who does not want to fight will never be as good a soldier as a man who volunteers to defend his people.",,Anonymous,S N A K E.jpg,Fi/qiV2D6rr1VSi2hV/43A==,US,,1494951315 125784667,125788556,2017-05-16 16:16:30,">>125784973 >the state Yeaaahh.... Definitely... Yeah, they'll be TOTALLY loyal to the state, Schlomo. They won't do a Pinochet and begin the WHAT MUST BE DONE process, not at all. That would be nasty, wouldn't it? c|:^o*",,Anonymous,ancap mine.png,VeXoUUG3fuT7g7aPnmwFsQ==,SK,,1494951390 125784667,125788742,2017-05-16 16:17:54,">>125786015 They won't burn their draft tickets or sell info to the enemy, that's for damn sure. Also, they'll be far better at protecting the interests of the people, not the ruler. They can be bolstered with some mercenaries, but if you don't have a good force of your own people, you're dead meat. >t. Machiavelli",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494951474 125784667,125788900,2017-05-16 16:19:03,">>125788382 If campaigns are truly for freedom, there is no need for a permanent military. Only national guard and the nuclear deterrent. Expeditionary forces can be recruited among trained volunteers.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1494951543 125784667,125789057,2017-05-16 16:20:21,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s34v7OudDno good speech from Hoppe mentioned the war on white males back then as well >The only difference between ""Mein Kampf"" and ""Democracy: The god that failed"" is that Hitler's rants were a bestseller, while Hoppe's nonsense, thankfully, is not.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494951621 125784667,125789263,2017-05-16 16:22:15,"Holy shit, fucking bump. Somebody wake Portubro up and tell him to not go to sleep so early. Anyway, what do you think AntiCom's next plans should be? Antifa was able to organise in an actual phalanx in Boston, though no major battle took place. We are no longer outnumbered and meek, so they are no longer so willing to fight. I know fighting them isn't the end goal, but we should do it as often as possible, as preparation.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494951735 125784667,125789970,2017-05-16 16:28:10,"In a society were property is well preserved, Communists cannot exist, they cannot grow, A Western Libertarian Union, with gold backed currencies, free toll area and common external borders would be far more efficient. Today´s problems would be forgotten.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1494952090 125784667,125790312,2017-05-16 16:30:56,">>125786713 The reral problem is crony capitalism, which is directly caused by democracy. All the memes about how le evil capitalism destroys everything describe the system of corporatism run by the elites we currently have. If a true free market was in place there wouldn't be problems like monoplies or exploitation, since competition wouldn't be surpressed by a few people with legal authority to do so.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494952256 125784667,125790455,2017-05-16 16:32:01,I made a symbological guide to the political compass a while back. How well did I represent the libertarian right?,,Anonymous,rundown.png,4F9445jmFcarza+REfJawg==,US,,1494952321 125784667,125790869,2017-05-16 16:35:12,">>125790455 Liberty is not an ideology. Ideologies were set to take the place of religion, offering a framework where people could be easily attached and cowed. A Libertarian world wouldn´t have political ideologies, just select men solving the problems they were selected for.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1494952512 125784667,125791264,2017-05-16 16:38:27,">>125790455 Nazism belongs to the center-left side of the upper side",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1494952707 125784667,125792653,2017-05-16 16:49:54,">>1257912 christ this is slow today",,Anonymous,1484353783925.jpg,SqZNEUWc2O0yjDKPvR1FWQ==,GB,,1494953394 125784667,125792876,2017-05-16 16:51:44,Hey what's up my freedom loving Bros.,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,djBDEMhP/3vHQcYeNMeTXA==,US,,1494953504 125784667,125793269,2017-05-16 16:54:21,">>125791252 Here you go folks, more commies admitting intent to commit violence. Purge commies when?",,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1494953661 125784667,125793284,2017-05-16 16:54:29,How can you advocate tax cuts when the revenue is required to help women and minorities get out of poverty?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494953669 125784667,125793319,2017-05-16 16:54:49,,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1494953689 125784667,125793635,2017-05-16 16:57:33,">>125793284 >don't work >starve It's that easy famerino.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494953853 125784667,125793780,2017-05-16 16:58:54,">>125793284 I don't care about nogs, make em get to work or send them back. Women belong at home anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494953934 125784667,125794147,2017-05-16 17:02:11,">>125793780 What about the black children of single mothers who's father's have been incarcerated unfairly due to white privilege? Should we just let the children starve?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494954131 125784667,125794257,2017-05-16 17:03:17,what's up with the logo?,,every post is satire,1-9-2017 1-01-09 PM.jpg,VylbIFbxggcecr5EFbXWTg==,US,,1494954197 125784667,125794366,2017-05-16 17:04:11,"I am a trans and AnCap, hi boys!",,Anonymous,eJwFwdsNhCAQAMBeKIB9iItrNwQJmqgQ2Pu6XO8383WfcbvdnWZ97gDHNXMbh5_WRqrF19bqXVK_ps_tgWSW8vmU1yawSEBljLyIkrIKsKIEWVE3ooAYMQKFTWhhJFkp-P5W9_sDvUQiZg.XEr2h2SvPEKreG31TaukLvp1ICk.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,BR,,1494954251 125784667,125794454,2017-05-16 17:04:58,">>125790312 Crony capitalism is the end-game of all capitalism though, there will always be someone who amasses the most wealth while everyone else suffers. Capitalism is too individualist and globalist. Mussolini called it ""supercapitalism"", the stage that all capitalism will become in the end. https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/capitalism-is-jewish-usury/ Good luck being able to outjew the jews however, you had your chance when the market was ""free"" and now they control every facet of your life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494954298 125784667,125794463,2017-05-16 17:05:02,">>125794366 Disgusting, stay away from my children.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494954302 125784667,125794612,2017-05-16 17:06:24,">>125794147 Great, I love white privilege. Did you know I have an ice machine built into the door of my refrigerator?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494954384 125784667,125794631,2017-05-16 17:06:34,">>125794366 kys, faggot",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494954394 125784667,125794815,2017-05-16 17:08:16,">>125794454 The people in power only have their power because a political elite exists which they can bribe to act in their favor. Without those da joos or whoever you think is in power won't be able to keep themselves in power any longer, because their only real talent is using their net of contacts and utilize this nepotism to their advantage. Removing the central government means cutting this net.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494954496 125784667,125794957,2017-05-16 17:09:26,">>125794366 Trans or cis, as long as you adhere to your chosen gender's norms and look convincing enough, you're fine. Please refrain from breeding, however.",,Anonymous,fuck egalitarianism.jpg,hiRP4lPTTkAf2UvjY0VF9Q==,US,,1494954566 125784667,125794961,2017-05-16 17:09:27,">>125784667 In theory great but the end result nah.",,Anonymous,ancap-chan-m.png,iA28VjUk1jRtmgAPu3qYOQ==,NL,,1494954567 125784667,125794974,2017-05-16 17:09:34,">>125794366 Not in my neighbourhood, queer.",,Anonymous,1488319330866.jpg,QLIUZ26a1MH/Uo1nSn8nPw==,DE,,1494954574 125784667,125795064,2017-05-16 17:10:18,">>125792876 How exactly does beating homeless people make them productive members of society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494954618 125784667,125795207,2017-05-16 17:11:34,,,Anonymous,a484e7ed811c33f0adcfcc8e4dc1ca501d81f85a.png,8SmWDS6eKSIcXJQ14dnOtw==,FI,,1494954694 125784667,125795485,2017-05-16 17:13:44,">tfw you pretend to be Anarcho-Capitalist, but in reality you're a Stirnerite Egoist",,Anonymous,1493564670808.jpg,3/zOBStJNmxRAyRwu56vqg==,US,,1494954824 125784667,125795496,2017-05-16 17:13:52,">>125794366 sure mate, flash 'm",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494954832 125784667,125795567,2017-05-16 17:14:30,">>125795064 >beating homeless people doesn't say that, just shoo them from public and private property. Where will they go? Who cares?",,Anonymous,Race.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,US,,1494954870 125784667,125795726,2017-05-16 17:15:44,">>125795485 Gated communities in AnCapistan pretty much function as unions of egoists if you want them to.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494954944 125784667,125795812,2017-05-16 17:16:22,">>125792876 >Populist >Slashing welfare all non-whites lost at this moment Libertarianism is white western civilization ideals,",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494954982 125784667,125796053,2017-05-16 17:18:10,">>125795812 Nice!",,Anonymous,MajesticShyGreatwhiteshark.webm,1jnhzE8/U9uDnd0qe2Zypg==,US,,1494955090 125784667,125796140,2017-05-16 17:18:50,">>125795567 But they don't just disappear retard, they're just moved into another city or community until they get shooed from that one and on and on until they're back on your doorstep. This is literally a south park episode.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494955130 125784667,125796222,2017-05-16 17:19:23,">>125796053 Kek for the substitute vag",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494955163 125784667,125796424,2017-05-16 17:21:05,">>125796140 Good. kick em out and don't let em back in until their ready to get a fucking job. let some commie city show how charitable they are. CALIFORNIA! SUPER COOL TO THE HOMELESS!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494955265 125784667,125796425,2017-05-16 17:21:06,But who will regulate the road traffic?,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494955266 125784667,125796471,2017-05-16 17:21:27,">>125796140 Trespassing violates the NAP. If they come back after you have denied them access to your property you are entitled to defend yourself against their agression.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494955287 125784667,125796664,2017-05-16 17:22:52,">>125796471 Rothbard is talking more about the right here and now (not ancapistan) but still you're right, the state owes nothing to them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494955372 125784667,125796721,2017-05-16 17:23:22,">>125784667 https://discord.gg/fvX5r",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494955402 125784667,125796930,2017-05-16 17:25:09,">>125794366 Not in my private society.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494955509 125784667,125796954,2017-05-16 17:25:25,">>125796664 Oh, I only read the reply, not your post. In our current situation it would probably be the best to simply cut any gibs and send them to a place that is stupid enough to take them for the sake of generousity, like you said already >>125796424.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494955525 125784667,125797017,2017-05-16 17:25:51,">>125794815 Not that simple my friend, yes the government bails out top companies and banks but such entities would be a dilemma in any state that isn't National Socialist. You need a government that prevents (((them))) from growing too powerful with their nepotism while also protecting your natural born ethnic citizens. >>125795485 The NAP is a spook.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494955551 125784667,125797241,2017-05-16 17:27:25,">>125784667 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkRQUtD_Jo truthism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494955645 125784667,125797304,2017-05-16 17:27:54,">>125796140 Hire a company that shoos them around? If anything this just opens economic opportunities. Maybe even some of the hobos will start a hobo shooing business (and they'd be probably breddy gud at it because they know how hobos think).",,Anonymous,ancap_vs_national_communism.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,DE,,1494955674 125784667,125797375,2017-05-16 17:28:19,">>125797017 Nepotism only exists because there is a government. Why do you think fascist politicians wouldn't be corrupt? It is wishful thinking to believe that any government would be ideologically pure and free of any corruption. Once there are people with power they will want to grow that power and act against the interest of the people.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494955699 125784667,125797402,2017-05-16 17:28:32,">>125797017 >You need a government that prevents (((them))) Private Death Squads is the answer my fashy friend. You don't need a goverment to purge subversives that wish to implement socialism, totalitarianism, or libertein degeneracy.",,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,US,,1494955712 125784667,125797509,2017-05-16 17:29:17,">>125797304 why do both sides always have to be shitty",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1494955757 125784667,125797707,2017-05-16 17:30:37,">>125797509 human nature",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494955837 125784667,125797721,2017-05-16 17:30:45,Hey has anyone ever found the archives of Ron Pauls newsletters? I've been trying to find them for a few days now with no luck I imagine they'd be a gold mine for /lrg/ if someone could find them.,,Anonymous,Ron.png,ONq9KemJD4uFo1ZCARvqlg==,US,,1494955845 125784667,125797822,2017-05-16 17:31:28,Sorry to those shitting on the leftyfag libertarians but if you're governments enforcing some social order where they gas gays and jail ideological groups it's not libertarian.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494955888 125784667,125798036,2017-05-16 17:33:08,">>125797822 Get lost faggot. lefties have to be McGassed.",,Anonymous,15966300_1833359693601243_6275391223397632600_n.jpg,ylHG+ULWWY4mKcM4OFjbgA==,US,,1494955988 125784667,125798159,2017-05-16 17:34:07,,,Anonymous,1490140529536.jpg,aThGpkXG8xi+q76M+EbJ8A==,US,,1494956047 125784667,125798169,2017-05-16 17:34:11,The ancap utopia can only be achieved in an ethno-state which the average IQ is above a certain level,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494956051 125784667,125798257,2017-05-16 17:34:59,">>125797822 It is if you explicitly tell them they are not allowed in your community. If they enter or stay anyway, they violate the NAP and have to be removed. Discrimination is a right only progressives want to ban. Being reactionary and AnCap isn't mutually exclusive.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494956099 125784667,125798383,2017-05-16 17:35:50,">>125797402 When the corporate death squads become powerful enough to enforce law over a region and collect small fees of money over a period of time to pay for protection by private police and fire forces it becomes a government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494956150 125784667,125798405,2017-05-16 17:35:59,">>125798169 naturally. The eugenic nature of competition will weed out low iq degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494956159 125784667,125798540,2017-05-16 17:37:05,">>125784667 how do we 14/88 in an AnCap society?",,Anonymous,AnCapMemeBall.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,US,,1494956225 125784667,125798630,2017-05-16 17:37:48,">>125798169 Freedom of association. Nobody keeps you from grouping together with only a certain type of people (like only whites with a certain IQ) and defending that community. Banning other people you deem unwanted is your right as property owner. Forced inclusiveness requires a government.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494956268 125784667,125798736,2017-05-16 17:38:35,">>125798383 >corporate No, idiot. corporations are a legal entity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494956315 125784667,125798797,2017-05-16 17:39:00,was Pinochet good lads?,,Anonymous,,,CL,,1494956340 125784667,125799043,2017-05-16 17:40:39,">>125798540 Its easy, Get land, let only whites in, as property owner you are now furher. also pic related helps. >>125798797 Yeah, he's cool.",,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1494956439 125784667,125799127,2017-05-16 17:41:10,">>125798797 Parece que sí",,Anonymous,Pinochetian Economy.png,MyP2I9bLOJrVQRQ3T0dLJA==,US,,1494956470 125784667,125799186,2017-05-16 17:41:35,">>125798797 He was too pure for this world.",,Anonymous,1494359740876.jpg,bSv1lN3eY5hLVpeQ6eBkww==,DE,,1494956495 125784667,125799381,2017-05-16 17:42:59,,,Anonymous,2M1S2LnvxCNn5yL6NeDGW2CnA-Iymd2pVXyN69dMlO0.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,US,,1494956579 125784667,125799439,2017-05-16 17:43:25,">>125798383 I agree with this one, for the very simple fact it is in human nature to gather and secure resources, The most effective way for achieving this is consolidating a monopoly of violence and selling drugs and loli's i.e. it is a pipedream",,Anonymous,Rebuild Of Evangelion Movie 01 You Are (Not) Alone [024ECC40].mkv_snapshot_00.30.10_[2016.01.01_06.46.00].png,QH6yZuFQTnmJa9A9LIHL0A==,NL,,1494956605 125784667,125799609,2017-05-16 17:44:42,">>125798797 Ideal leader. Look at Chile today, that's all thanks to him.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1494956682 125784667,125799756,2017-05-16 17:45:44,">>125788382 That's full on retarded. How would you defend against a nation like China with their entire military versus your decentralized home defenses?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494956744 125784667,125800356,2017-05-16 17:50:18,">>125784667 Opinion's on Nozick's ""The Tale of a Slave"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxRSkM8C8z4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494957018 125784667,125801649,2017-05-16 18:00:02,">>125800356 bretty good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494957602 125784667,125802320,2017-05-16 18:05:36,">>125799756 Indeed. Anarchy doesn't work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494957936 125784667,125803270,2017-05-16 18:12:54,">>125796425 Where we're going, we won't NEED roads...",,Anonymous,IMG_0387.jpg,rHD8vkP7JLK2dUXxDHSuiw==,US,,1494958374 125784667,125803990,2017-05-16 18:17:56,">>125784667 You're going to have to explain this movement to me. From my limited knowledge, it sounds alright. But a political idea is nothing if it cannot stand to scrutiny. Give me the details, /lrg/.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494958676 125784667,125804146,2017-05-16 18:19:05,">>125799756 AnCap presupposes that nations and states would no longer exist. A nation-less, race-less world essentially. AnCap is borne out of good principles unlike communism or marxism, decent ideas that involve independence and competence, strongest individual rights that could ever exist, no egalitarianism, etc, but unfortunately just like communism it involves a perfect world with perfect people. AnCap is impossible without ideal people who all have an IQ of NO LESS than what today is 140, who have NO propensity for collectivism, and are overall extremely individualistic. In other words you need an entire race of completely independent ubermenschen. A pipe dream. But I can see why people are drawn to AnCap ideas.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494958745 125784667,125804354,2017-05-16 18:21:02,">>125803990 well, /lrg/ isn't one person but you'll find that almost everyone here is for small-non-existent state power and free enterprise. we are Libertarians, Conservatives, Anarchists and Minarchists.",,Anonymous,1488084289049.jpg,DIPClpab/CrLjGN4Z4d97w==,US,,1494958862 125784667,125804539,2017-05-16 18:22:17,">>125804354 Monarchist here. I agree with about 80% of the stuff posted here.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1494958937 125784667,125804618,2017-05-16 18:22:52,,,Anonymous,1 (2).png,4RLqF416be1HH755udONVw==,UA,,1494958972 125784667,125804793,2017-05-16 18:24:06,">>125804539 That's cool, Monarchism is pretty based.",,Anonymous,1468971115820.jpg,wKQ82Nn20MrA025IjW+R8g==,US,,1494959046 125784667,125804820,2017-05-16 18:24:22,">>125794366 tits or gtfo? i dont know how it works with trans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494959062 125784667,125805025,2017-05-16 18:25:57,">>125804539 give me the redpill on monarchy i know hoppe has a crush on it and for good reason it seems",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1494959157 125784667,125805255,2017-05-16 18:27:48,">>125804539 What? What do you want? Schwarzcunt to be king of Bohemian rapshody or what ha?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494959268 125784667,125805440,2017-05-16 18:29:06,">>125799381 Saved So how would you fellow capitalists defend your homeland from bankers imposing a private currency (Federal Reserve) on you? I mean if this society was already achieved the majority would be intelligent and actually know this shit, but it's good to form arguments.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494959346 125784667,125805933,2017-05-16 18:32:34,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F29bNPN8FTE Link related",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494959554 125784667,125806678,2017-05-16 18:38:00,">>125805255 Preferably a descendant of Přemyslové. Alternatively, a Slavic von Habsburg. >>125805025 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7392ShPZ9o Also Prussia was pretty great.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1494959880 125784667,125806828,2017-05-16 18:39:07,>>125804793,,Anonymous,monarchism.png,20YwgL/2/+PDhgUOm6EDEQ==,CZ,,1494959947 125784667,125807046,2017-05-16 18:40:36,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,CA,,1494960036 125784667,125807655,2017-05-16 18:44:47,">>125784667 Whats up cucks.",,Anonymous,quote-the-money-pigs-of-capitalist-democracy-money-has-made-slaves-of-us-money-is-the-curse-joseph-goebbels-134-45-64.jpg,3lSLG68/3jw6V3eXXSHnhw==,US,,1494960287 125784667,125807865,2017-05-16 18:46:09,">>125807655 fuck off commie",,Anonymous,physicalremoval.jpg,x6KfnHpER9jIh2UjmxOm8A==,CZ,,1494960369 125784667,125808035,2017-05-16 18:47:17,">>125799381 I doubt Hoppean Snake Memes actually made that, if he did, that's one of his worse memes because most of them were truth in jokes, this one wasn't even funny. Out of his game if it was him.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1494960437 125784667,125809212,2017-05-16 18:55:56,">>125807655 Money should be a way of trading someone's production for someone else's, and a way to store value that allows us to produce beyond what we need to consume. >Money is the curse of mankind wtf I'm poor now",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494960956 125784667,125809471,2017-05-16 18:57:59,">>125807655 He's right though. The only threat to capitalism is private banks enslaving the population. This has already happened.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1494961079 125784667,125810942,2017-05-16 19:09:35,">>125808035 He puts his name on everything. It's not his.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494961775 125784667,125811624,2017-05-16 19:14:40,">>125808035 it's not his m8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494962080 125784667,125811781,2017-05-16 19:15:49,Triple Canopy is a proud sponsor of /lrg/,,Anonymous,1494826936234.gif,4E181KD4FnH81Dpsb3Y2wg==,AF,,1494962149 125860781,125860781,2017-05-17 02:45:04,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,hoppe pol logo.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,SK,,1494989104 125860781,125860919,2017-05-17 02:46:54,">>125860781 Go back to T_D faggots.",,Anonymous,67e6625147dddde9b323d8fa2f217e3ea30b80a98958d6c4110f1066992fd754.jpg,9xXBQHqS32zxfT/x1Knf4A==,US,,1494989214 125860781,125860927,2017-05-17 02:46:57,,,Anonymous,hoppe schwag.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,SK,,1494989217 125860781,125860973,2017-05-17 02:47:36,">>125860781 FUCK OFF SHILL SLIDE THREAD REMEMBER SETH RICH UNITE BEHIND TRUMP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494989256 125860781,125861058,2017-05-17 02:48:36,">>125860919 >back Never been there. Trumpfags aren't libertarians and (((cultural libertarianism))) is a kike trick.",,Anonymous,nsg vs lrg.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,SK,,1494989316 125860781,125861138,2017-05-17 02:49:31,">>125860973 Pretty sure there's enough of those threads up. I bet half of you faggots didn't even know who Rich was.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1494989371 125860781,125861199,2017-05-17 02:50:20,,,Anonymous,rainwater bong illegal.jpg,fuIzNmSQZVV6q3qb21mm1Q==,SK,,1494989420 125860781,125861767,2017-05-17 02:57:22,Mud lip,,Anonymous,IMG_1682.png,tUXwSx7cS0W1rDDXmeyx2A==,US,,1494989842 125860781,125862492,2017-05-17 03:06:09,">>125861767 what did he mean by this",,Anonymous,lrg nsg cg.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,SK,,1494990369 125860781,125863384,2017-05-17 03:18:10,"How do anclaps deal with the fact that nobody would adhere to the NAP and their ""utopia"" would just be free-for-all chaos?",,Anonymous,1469404614320.png,eL402hioQUdHBWSVu99CUg==,US,,1494991090 125860781,125863517,2017-05-17 03:20:35,">>125863384 They're retards. They don't think about their ideology in depth. They're also utopians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494991235 125860781,125865374,2017-05-17 03:45:52,">>125863384 Why is it that all the arguments Anti-ancaps can muster are straw man? Do you honestly feel capable of holding a debate just because you read the NAP definition on Wikipedia? Because you certainly don't show to have any knowledge about Anarcho capitalism. How is it that you expect Ancaps require everyone to adhere to the NAP and you can't even notice that you have millions of people who didn't adhere to your laws, yet you still have a somewhat functioning society? The ""NAP"" argument is just a lazy way to straw man anarcho capitalists, like if we didn't actually have a plan outside of a moral code. But we do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494992752 125860781,125866011,2017-05-17 03:54:19,">>125861199 A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline {Audiobook-Not read by Hoppe!} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4x5GPbZwTI",,Anonymous,4e3c5ea144518973b5f32558bed9898450c41192abd02f2716cd21896ff28d19.png,wBpfpnRCyJwkffmeYMTgfg==,US,,1494993259 125860781,125866812,2017-05-17 04:05:57,,,Anonymous,4eb813fd1c2f2454b629c89b8e1e6358.jpg,bI+iHhENwdz3NBc/NNJYnQ==,FI,,1494993957 125860781,125866834,2017-05-17 04:06:14,>>125866812,,Anonymous,8b5a9f72b418389e1897bd5c07ad7f9a.jpg,VOxcMcCdy13knk7Y8/Kkng==,FI,,1494993974 125860781,125866852,2017-05-17 04:06:34,>>125866834,,Anonymous,36d438f2c8d00b2863728c687a19c05f.jpg,NtQ48sjQCyhjcoxoehnAXw==,FI,,1494993994 125860781,125866872,2017-05-17 04:06:53,>>125866852,,Anonymous,86eff9f68bfe02a02dbca1786875c8bc.jpg,Y+efnxqqeUSJr+kTRpEDSg==,FI,,1494994013 125860781,125866900,2017-05-17 04:07:11,>>125866872,,Anonymous,0464ae3d4abddb93b61f39ea495d7e8c.jpg,dPn+bTe0I/aRNPoISTIl5g==,FI,,1494994031 125860781,125866919,2017-05-17 04:07:30,>>125866900,,Anonymous,413277.jpg,USuYH3UmhtbPzjFxgMTLtg==,FI,,1494994050 125860781,125866941,2017-05-17 04:07:49,>>125866919,,Anonymous,6509595461_92cb2ced4e_b.jpg,ZFdOh4F2BfxSITpKbYe/lg==,FI,,1494994069 125860781,125866963,2017-05-17 04:08:08,>>125866941,,Anonymous,b1d35cc3ac2c3c83b32754f277120a81.jpg,C1OtznI/HbujLRtbASt39w==,FI,,1494994088 125860781,125866989,2017-05-17 04:08:26,>>125866963,,Anonymous,ce6c0b463c99e1f5d7e46a3c0f47aea3.jpg,cmTZvL9i6z/vmS//Qp7sqg==,FI,,1494994106 125860781,125867000,2017-05-17 04:08:35,>>125866812,,Anonymous,1482589515089.jpg,i3R0itWq0smgyC3kkPGqEw==,AU,,1494994115 125860781,125867013,2017-05-17 04:08:44,>>125866989,,Anonymous,DPRK-election-poster-2011-7-24-B-Yonhap.jpg.jpg,sME6eXAxELjPL/SogLL7Ag==,FI,,1494994124 125860781,125867041,2017-05-17 04:09:07,>>125867013,,Anonymous,e13-549.jpg,nhwQDwzv8apCipsiUQwP5w==,FI,,1494994147 125860781,125867061,2017-05-17 04:09:21,>>125866989,,Anonymous,capitalism_vs_socialism.jpg,vfxPdEktdKbbwIKLIIsd4A==,AU,,1494994161 125860781,125867071,2017-05-17 04:09:29,>>125867041,,Anonymous,e13-644.jpg,lMhjlD7sptLG1SUJ98U3Rw==,FI,,1494994169 125860781,125867091,2017-05-17 04:09:47,>>125867071,,Anonymous,e15-507.jpg,cbYjnkalYQ731eRYrze5pQ==,FI,,1494994187 125860781,125867103,2017-05-17 04:09:55,>>125867071,,Anonymous,1491840075588.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,AU,,1494994195 125860781,125867112,2017-05-17 04:10:07,>>125867091,,Anonymous,g2-26.jpg,bDwgqmNz4KU4wV6cs6VLGA==,FI,,1494994207 125860781,125867126,2017-05-17 04:10:23,>>125866963,,Anonymous,1493369543420.jpg,P13Y1uo2F/AWB60WDKmBnw==,AU,,1494994223 125860781,125867136,2017-05-17 04:10:31,>>125867112,,Anonymous,Snake.png,/xAD0qjgz7Knrgp9jyce+w==,FI,,1494994231 125860781,125867165,2017-05-17 04:10:54,>>125867136,,Anonymous,tank.jpg,4AHF+reU6ERBlQIPPDg5oA==,FI,,1494994254 125860781,125867169,2017-05-17 04:10:55,>>125866941,,Anonymous,HeloDipl.png,XQ43dFnEVQGnPdiGuDIqDQ==,AU,,1494994255 125860781,125867186,2017-05-17 04:11:14,>>125867165,,Anonymous,tumblr_mpmqt9akZC1sul5q0o1_500.jpg,5XPRfQxRUyJ26PY1wLh6pg==,FI,,1494994274 125860781,125867196,2017-05-17 04:11:23,>>125866919,,Anonymous,1483890792943.png,p0k/Ugkh2gc/d1owMFnWTA==,AU,,1494994283 125860781,125867210,2017-05-17 04:11:34,>>125867186,,Anonymous,tumblr_mpq52fAC151sul5q0o1_400.jpg,qpmqTji0fP57f8JpZ4wcZw==,FI,,1494994294 125860781,125867231,2017-05-17 04:11:48,>>125866900,,Anonymous,1488652299795.gif,m7DPtSpreCo2Mnx4n7VUWg==,AU,,1494994308 125860781,125867236,2017-05-17 04:11:55,>>125867210,,Anonymous,usa9.jpg,hPRYkZe1YMnZH7fuPutAbQ==,FI,,1494994315 125860781,125867239,2017-05-17 04:11:58,">>125867169 Just report all hist posts. Leftypol shills don't know they get physically removed",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494994318 125860781,125867255,2017-05-17 04:12:10,>>125866872,,Anonymous,helicopter_rides_are_too_merciful.jpg,ujaBjusRmkAsrKVGKUzFdQ==,AU,,1494994330 125860781,125867284,2017-05-17 04:12:38,>>125866852,,Anonymous,anticommunistmemes3.jpg,XJ7HDjaWlsGKJlnqYrf7FQ==,AU,,1494994358 125860781,125867285,2017-05-17 04:12:40,">>125867236 There, that should be enough. Thank you for your time and goodbye.",,Anonymous,vintage-russian-poster-lenin-s-ideas-are-prevailing--13011-p.jpg,nwDgzXBh4qnA2P+7+0mTFw==,FI,,1494994360 125860781,125867293,2017-05-17 04:12:49,">>125867000 Nobody checks trips any more? Fuck this board. Death trips to Commies checked and witnessed.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494994369 125860781,125867320,2017-05-17 04:13:13,>>125866834,,Anonymous,Chile_Venezuela_Socialism.jpg,hfOl1kRdcRkpKVwed8M2Dg==,AU,,1494994393 125860781,125867354,2017-05-17 04:13:45,>>125866812,,Anonymous,1491655427158.png,I/eng7RmDhNJ21yQiWgaDA==,AU,,1494994425 125860781,125867390,2017-05-17 04:14:14,">>125865374 Maltese is the strangest language I've ever heard. Italian on Arabic. Do you speak it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494994454 125860781,125867396,2017-05-17 04:14:20,>>125867136,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,AU,,1494994460 125860781,125867498,2017-05-17 04:15:48,">>125867390 Nope. I'm not Maltese, just happen to work and live here.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494994548 125860781,125867553,2017-05-17 04:16:40,"So under libertarianism, is there any enforced institution of marriage? Would it be more like the meme we have today minus the gay divorce laws or more like the traditional marriage of European glory?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1494994600 125860781,125867688,2017-05-17 04:18:41,">>125860781 Honest question for ancaps What is your opinion on age of consent and general child protection laws? How will the NAP protect children from child prostitution when our government can barely even do that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494994721 125860781,125867861,2017-05-17 04:21:05,">>125860781 Devil's advocate here, what is the difference between being a wagecuck to private organizations and being a labor cuck to an authoritarian government? wouldn't the best way to preserve freedom be to abolish government as well as private organizations?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494994865 125860781,125867999,2017-05-17 04:22:50,">>125867553 No. It would be either a religious or a legal institution between two people who voluntarily enter into it. Religions would specify specific necessities (i.e. ""we won't marry gay people"") and would do their own thing Gay people would find a secular celebrant and get married through them. It would be legally binding agreements between the two, not a prespecified set of rules or mandates laid out by the government. Maybe the church would lay some restrictions, but it's always your choice to juat not get married through them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494994970 125860781,125868156,2017-05-17 04:25:05,">>125867688 >age of consent Up to the different covenants / private cities. I assume those covenants that have some contractually enforced aoc will do better than others. >child protection laws Private entities should take care of prosecuting and denouncing. Check the video I posted >>125865374 to understand private law. >How will the NAP protect children from child prostitution when our government can barely even do that? Again, it's not the Nap that protects us, just like your laws don't protect you. It's all about law enforcement, and the video shows how it is possible and probably better. >>125867861 The same as the difference between sex and rape. Consent",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494995105 125860781,125868176,2017-05-17 04:25:15,">>125867553 I think when you say libertarianism you actually mean anarcho-capitalism. And yes, under anarcho-capitalism marriage would be a meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494995115 125860781,125868234,2017-05-17 04:26:19,">>125860781 how much will you pay me when me and my fashy buddies remove some communists? we could be your contractors",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1494995179 125860781,125868244,2017-05-17 04:26:28,">>125867553 >enforced institution of marriage? Contracts.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494995188 125860781,125868273,2017-05-17 04:26:52,">>125867861 Freedom of choice to sell your labor, as opposed to the authoritarian forced labor through coercion. If you abolish private organizations you make it every man for himself. No insurance, no police, no courts, no firefighters. Private organizations are the way that individuals voluntarily come together to do things they could not do by themselves. So long as they're voluntary there is no issue with them",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494995212 125860781,125868349,2017-05-17 04:27:55,">>125863517 How can statists call anyone utopians you literally believe that a bunch of bureaucrats can manage and control an economy with millions of transactions, prices and actors. You assign omniscience to government. >>125865374 A world without government for most statist is a scary one",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494995275 125860781,125868640,2017-05-17 04:32:36,">>125868156 >The same as the difference between sex and rape. Consent Well I mean there is about as much consent in ""work or starve"" as there is in ""work or prison"" even more so if you abolish the laws that keep companies from making work your ass off without break and only give you pennies as payment. >Private entities should take care of prosecuting and denouncing. Isn't that just feudalism with extra steps? Also it is a fact of life that if someone can do it, they will do it. Without any government there will be more abuse of children as well as things like child slave trafficking, which many will consider an acceptable business.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494995556 125860781,125868685,2017-05-17 04:33:26,">>125860919 /pol/ has always been a libertarian board.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494995606 125860781,125868793,2017-05-17 04:35:13,">>125868685 This The nature of a board that allows any kind of speech at all is hella libertarian. A fashy board would do things like censor communists and shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494995713 125860781,125868797,2017-05-17 04:35:14,">leftists take the world 'liberal' from advocates of liberty >in the process of taking 'libertarian' to mean some degenerate shit what's next?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494995714 125860781,125868893,2017-05-17 04:36:54,">>125868797 I blame Gary ""dude weed lmao"" Johnson for that, him and his attempt to steal votes from confused centrists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494995814 125860781,125869312,2017-05-17 04:43:16,">>125863384 Optimal economic policy is not ""utopia"", and NAP is just a guideline for a better legal system, beyond enforcing contracts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494996196 125860781,125869375,2017-05-17 04:44:20,">>125868640 >Well I mean there is about as much consent in ""work or starve"" as there is in ""work or prison"" Starving is the natural status of men. Ever since we're born we are gradually starving until we put food in our stomach, and back to gradually starving. Prison is not the natural status of men, in order to be imprisoned someone has to actively try to limit your rights and tell you that you're not the owner of your body. There's massive philosophical differences between positive and negative rights. >even more so if you abolish the laws that keep companies from making work your ass off without break and only give you pennies as payment. There is no law allowing me to be paid more than 400€/month afaik, yet somehow I make way more than that. You accept the best society is willing to give you or you build a future for yourself. If nobody in the world is willing to pay you more than pennies for your work, then chances are you have bigger problems than a lack of laws. >Isn't that just feudalism with extra steps? Not even close. >if someone can do it, they will do it Just showed you a video that addresses private law, seems you didn't even bother watching it. These are all pre-conceived notions and are all covered in the video.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494996260 125860781,125869667,2017-05-17 04:48:35,">>125869375 Has socialist Europe hit your island? How is the economy in the Mediterranean?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494996515 125860781,125869741,2017-05-17 04:49:46,">>125867688 It would be a sacred bond by your church, with no legal meaning. If you want more than that, you could always write up whatever contract you want and get it notarized. I'm sure there would be a basic template and I'm sure we'd just call it ""the marriage contract"", and there's a good chance that out of social habit we'd still do both.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494996586 125860781,125869746,2017-05-17 04:49:49,">>125869667 Dude across all these Meds country the gov't employs half the population",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494996589 125860781,125869850,2017-05-17 04:51:05,">>125860781 Stop shilling libertarianism as violent. Libertarianism is the opposite of violent. It's nonviolent.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1494996665 125860781,125869923,2017-05-17 04:52:00,>>125869850,,Anonymous,1490382426316.jpg,8Rvao7XmMHk2tQzA8XzdOg==,US,,1494996720 125860781,125869948,2017-05-17 04:52:20,">>125867553 We wouldn't tolerate homosexuality in my commune",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494996740 125860781,125869984,2017-05-17 04:52:51,">>125869923 Pacifism is a mental illness",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494996771 125860781,125870083,2017-05-17 04:54:17,">>125867861 Sorry for so many posts, phonefagging makes this shit annoying. Man has proven itself to work much better in groups. This is the phenomenon that has lead to athoritarian ideals, but as it turns out, we must also want to belong to that group. Even in an ethnostate, there will be quiet dissenters, thus inefficiency. Private marketplaces capitalize on peoples group preferences better than any system designed so far.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1494996857 125860781,125870315,2017-05-17 04:57:52,">>125867861 Wagecuckery does not exist. The concept stems from economic illiteracy. The market determines the price of your wage. It reflects your worth. Wagecuckery is the term used a coping device for losers who can't more than minimum wage at age 30. > what is the difference between being a wagecuck to private organizations and being a labor cuck to an authoritarian government? Consent. I don't want to be a servant to the government. Anarcho-capitalism allows for that. A lot of fascists, national socialists and communists/regular socialists are weak people, and they need someone to strip them of their income (lest they hurt themselves) and nanny them. In an anarcho-capitalist society we would make allowances for those people. Socialist communes could exist and you could live there following the personality cult of your leader (i.e. Hitler, Stalin, Mao) while you starve.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1494997072 125860781,125871471,2017-05-17 05:16:00,">>125869667 This country has grown amazingly in the last 20 years. It was a shithole with absolutely nothing and now construction and business are everywhere. Thing is, meds always sabotage themselves, the moment they get out of absolute poverty they start becoming activists for the left, so this country is doomed. But for now, there's money to be made here, Socialism is not as rampant as in most of Europe.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494998160 125860781,125871550,2017-05-17 05:17:09,">>125860927 The wealth of Nations - Adam Smith",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494998229 125860781,125872626,2017-05-17 05:34:07,">>125869923 Words/thoughts =/= actions.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1494999247 125860781,125872685,2017-05-17 05:34:58,>>125872626,,Anonymous,snek (2).png,ZJUzc6WPaHObMTxjZmkz+Q==,US,,1494999298 125860781,125872871,2017-05-17 05:38:02,">>125872685 People can say and think whatever they want until they actually fuck over other people. A person who thinks only ever about murdering other people and causing them suffering but never actually puts their plots into actions is irrelevant to other people.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1494999482 125860781,125873105,2017-05-17 05:41:18,">>125872871 When we speak of communists, were not talking about any idiot who ever wore a che guevara t-shirt. I'm talking about actual communists that are actually trying to ram this trash down everones throats. Antifa and similar groups, corporate commies leading the agenda and so on.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1494999678 125860781,125873175,2017-05-17 05:42:14,">>125872871 >is irrelevant to other people It's not. Being threatened conditions your way of life, incurs costs.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1494999734 125860781,125873304,2017-05-17 05:44:08,">>125872871 In fact there's plenty of evidence that that kind of cathartic thought is beneficial to the angry person. Thoughts of revenge and murder, if not carried out, prevent the feelings from repressing and manifesting later in negative, unproductive ways. But as Spain taught us during the civil war years, nonagression will not work against agressive enemies. Sometimes it takes violent men committing violent deeds to defend their communities",,Anonymous,1492683127657.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,AU,,1494999848 125860781,125873321,2017-05-17 05:44:25,">>125873105 If people do something that's one thing. If they say things and never do things that's entirely something else. >>125873175 You can't draw a line with language or you open the path to absolute absurdity in moral reasoning. You have to have the line at physicality.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1494999865 125860781,125873380,2017-05-17 05:45:23,">>125873304 Consequentialism is cancer.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1494999923 125860781,125873408,2017-05-17 05:45:42,">>125873304 Also pic related. One must be ready and able to do violence to protect peace. NAP only works if everyone agrees to it, not if there's outside actors with other ideologies",,Anonymous,1486914792248.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,AU,,1494999942 125860781,125873579,2017-05-17 05:48:27,">>125860781 Here you go, Anarcho-Capitalism: refugees a.) no government control = total privatization b.) money on hand = capitalism c.) might sink/rape = anarchism",,Anonymous,Anarcho-Capitalism.jpg,KNH7+m+rAGNkUVuJXc88ew==,SI,,1495000107 125860781,125873584,2017-05-17 05:48:30,">>125873380 So the libertarian should adhere to his moral principles of non agression in the face of a violent group who wishes to do him harm? Or just roll over and submit, and go to his death along the moral high ground?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495000110 125860781,125873745,2017-05-17 05:51:01,">>125873584 I'm willing to die for my principles. If you're not you're a pathetic subhuman. Better dead than a worthless monkey without a shred of righteousness who futilely clings to their own meager existence which will soon expire regardless of his desperate and pitiful struggle.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495000261 125860781,125873809,2017-05-17 05:51:46,">>125873321 >You can't draw a line with language or you open the path to absolute absurdity in moral reasoning. You have to have the line at physicality I draw the line at reasonable costs due to externalities (threat) and leave that in the hand of conflict resolution companies. In the case of murder, preemptive security is the only method that works, if your intention is not to be murdered. If I have to double my security because of a threat, you're de facto costing me money. All I would need if I wanted to make people poorer would be to threaten them, under your conditions, threatening would be a profitable business.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495000306 125860781,125873850,2017-05-17 05:52:23,You guys aren't Anarchists or Anarcho Capitalists. So fuck off that subject. Idiot nationalist cunt. Social and Anarcho Capitalism is better than any other Uptight Nerd Cult of Cunts can allow.,,Anonymous,6a0115717bd356970b01287759c3ac970c-500wi.jpg,1cUTgujQBHWSnB9ZDw02xQ==,US,,1495000343 125860781,125873866,2017-05-17 05:52:42,">>125873321 When you threaten someone that is coercion. threat. If someone threatens me or my property It is perfectly in line with non aggression. >>125873380 Libertarians unwilling to fight back for liberty are useful idiots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495000362 125860781,125873929,2017-05-17 05:53:48,">>125860919 Why do you morons keep posting that retard? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet >CIA helped fabricate a conspiracy against the Allende government, which Pinochet was then portrayed as preventing. >Wages decreased by 8%.[64] Family allowances in 1989 were 28% of what they had been in 1970 and the budgets for education, health and housing had dropped by over 20% on average[64] The junta relied on the middle class, the oligarchy, foreign corporations, and foreign loans to maintain itself. >Financial conglomerates became major beneficiaries of the liberalized economy and the flood of foreign bank loans. Large foreign banks reinstated the credit cycle, as the Junta saw that the basic state obligations, such as resuming payment of principal and interest installments, were honored. International lending organizations such as the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, and the Inter-American Development Bank lent vast sums anew.[64] Many foreign multinational corporations such as International Telephone and Telegraph (ITT), Dow Chemical, and Firestone, all expropriated by Allende, returned to Chile.[64] Pinochet's policies eventually led to substantial GDP growth, in contrast to the negative growth seen in the early years of his administration. Foreign debt also grew substantially under Pinochet, rising 300% between 1974 and 1988. He literally not done anything else than sold everything to USA and got some bonus, totally ruined Chile forever.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495000428 125860781,125874012,2017-05-17 05:55:04,">you do not live in alternate timeline where Ron Paul is 10 years younger and won the 2016 republican nomination literally kill me famalams",,Anonymous,1494365635307.jpg,hIQBXx7K1Mrjw+xumNmlig==,CZ,,1495000504 125860781,125874052,2017-05-17 05:55:41,">>125873929 >totally ruined Chile forever >Highest GDP, median income and HDI of South America >As opposed to Allende, who increased inflation by 606% in a couple of years",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495000541 125860781,125874059,2017-05-17 05:55:49,">>125873809 Anything and everything can be a threat. You cannot draw a line without physicality, because ANYTHING can be logically construed ANY WAY. Me walking by you with a bulge in my pocket can be taken by you as a threat, and you could self-justify shooting me by your absurd rationale of ""perceived threat"" being grounds for justified violent action. It's utterly crazy and absurd. You're worse than communists.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495000549 125860781,125874062,2017-05-17 05:55:52,">>125873745 >Willing to die for your principles >Not willing to fight for them That's how tyranny takes hold. Weak men who think dying for righteousness is the same as fighting for your principled ideals",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495000552 125860781,125874087,2017-05-17 05:56:13,">>125873745 Since atheism can't account moral realism and since Christianity rules out pacifism I would infer that you're wrong.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495000573 125860781,125874131,2017-05-17 05:56:57,">>125874062 I don't care what happens in the damn world. The world can rot and burn. I'll die a righteous man and you'll die a rat.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495000617 125860781,125874143,2017-05-17 05:57:06,">>125874052 Yes, when you sell Europe after you enter EU you also got high GDP, because literally you sell it, that's business according to capitalistic retards and you are worth more when Chinese raise your apartment prices. Congratulation retard. Here have your inflation too, so you can be a millionaire.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495000626 125860781,125874167,2017-05-17 05:57:29,">>125874087 >Christianity rules out pacifism No one is this stupid. ""Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 ) ""Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."" (Rom 12.19)",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495000649 125860781,125874168,2017-05-17 05:57:30,">>125873745 That's a cuck answer",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495000650 125860781,125874200,2017-05-17 05:58:05,">>125873866 Libertarians willing to commit violence on absurd philosophical grounds of perceived threats are the useful idiots. You play right into moral relativism.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495000685 125860781,125874246,2017-05-17 05:58:38,">>125873929 he physically removed communists and their sympathizers I'd say that was enough to significantly contribute to Chile's well being",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495000718 125860781,125874272,2017-05-17 05:58:59,">>125874168 A post like that *WOULD* hit too close to home to a spineless gypsy.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495000739 125860781,125874276,2017-05-17 05:59:07,">>125874131 No, you'll die a ""righteous man"" and I'll happily live out my days after fighting off my would be murderers.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495000747 125860781,125874280,2017-05-17 05:59:10,">>125874059 No, not anything and everything can be a threat. I'm going to rape your wife is a threat. I'm going to steal your stuff is a threat. We're going to organize to impose democracy over you so you have to surrender to majority's rule is a threat. Want to come over for bbq this weekend is not a threat.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495000750 125860781,125874319,2017-05-17 05:59:45,">>125874276 You'll die all the same. Whatever date either of us gets is pretty damn irrelevant.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495000785 125860781,125874421,2017-05-17 06:01:07,">>125874246 Yes, because Communists are in the way when you want to sell your country to Anglo and plug them into their (((financial))) system.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495000867 125860781,125874433,2017-05-17 06:01:14,">>125874059 And stop straw manning, YOU are worse than communists, I never said ""shooting you for perceived threat"", I clearly said leaving it in the hands of my insurance and the insurance of the person or group threatening me.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495000874 125860781,125874499,2017-05-17 06:02:12,">>125874167 You take your interpretation for granted. Why not exegete one of those passages? If God is a pacifist how do you explain the Mosaic code? >>125874200 Libertarianism (more so the social aspect) is centred on atheism i.e. nihilism and amoralism",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495000932 125860781,125874529,2017-05-17 06:02:42,">>125873745 When totalitarian Nazis/communists dominate the world we'll all look back and think ""remember that guy who stood by his principles and didn't fight back?"" Yeah, he died for nothing. The tree of liberty needs to be watered.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495000962 125860781,125874577,2017-05-17 06:03:30,">>125874529 He's a wuss trying to justify his lack of a backbone",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495001010 125860781,125874590,2017-05-17 06:03:41,">>125874280 Anything can be a threat, because what constitutes a ""threat"" is entirely in the eyes of the beholder. This is basic philosophy. A person could be raised with the understanding that ""I'm going to slaughter you and your family"" is a phrase used in kind greeting, especially if they're holding a bat up when they meet someone. They're not actually threatening you, but you perceive it as a threat and use violence against them. On the flip side, someone could think that anyone who said ""hello"" to them was stating an intent to assassinate them, and self-justify violence in self-defense against the perceived threat. It's why you *CANNOT* draw the moral line about this shit at fucking language. You MUST do it at physicality.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001021 125860781,125874661,2017-05-17 06:04:41,">>125874433 I don't care who you want to immorally justify their violence - you're advocating moral justification that reduces to absolute drivel.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001081 125860781,125874686,2017-05-17 06:05:03,">>125860781 Is this autism general?",,Anonymous,libertarianism is tyranny.png,iOeQQUhi7otICBPuB5ih0g==,US,,1495001103 125860781,125874739,2017-05-17 06:06:02,">>125874499 I don't know how you could ever possibly interpret ""do not use force against an evil man"" as anything other than ""do not use force against an evil man"". New Testament =/= Old Testament. Also Jewish law =/= God's moral commands to all mankind.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001162 125860781,125874790,2017-05-17 06:06:51,">>125874590 > ""I'm going to slaughter you and your family"" is a phrase used in kind greeting, especially if they're holding a bat up when they meet someone. Slaughter and family refer to concepts. Slaughter to brutally murder and family as those people are (immediately) related to you biologically. Even though we must use different referents for those terms I think it's very unlikely that any culture speaking any language would interpret that as a greeting. > On the flip side, someone could think that anyone who said ""hello"" to them was stating an intent to assassinate them, and self-justify violence in self-defense against the perceived threat. Well we would assess the situation. Why do you go to extremes? When there is a group or faction of people who wish to overthrow your way of life and despise you, and speak out against in with threats of violence doesn't justify action on your part?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495001211 125860781,125874805,2017-05-17 06:07:03,">>125874499 >Libertarianism (more so the social aspect) is centred on atheism i.e. nihilism and amoralism Jesus Christ no. Hell no. If you're a nihilist or amoralist you are absolutely worthless to libertarianism.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001223 125860781,125874865,2017-05-17 06:08:09,">>125874529 I'd love to die a martyr. You're too scared of death to even fathom it.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001289 125860781,125874964,2017-05-17 06:09:38,">>125874739 Matthew 5:17. The Old Testament law is still binding. You also evaded my question. The God of the Old Testament clearly wasn't your lovey dovey God of hugs and kisses. The genocide of Canaanites, stoning for sodomy? > Also Jewish law =/= God's moral commands to all mankind. You beg the question with your dispensationalist interpretation. It's also ironic that you say the law of Moses no longer applies yet you no longer see that to be the case the aforementioned verses. > New Testament =/= Old Testament. What does this mean? The OT isn't Scripture? In that case you disagree with Jesus who quotes it authoritatively throughout the Gospels.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495001378 125860781,125874996,2017-05-17 06:10:12,">>125874499 >Libertarianism (more so the social aspect) is centred on atheism i.e. nihilism and amoralism Found the ""socially liberal, fiscally conservative"" retard. freedom is a moral principle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495001412 125860781,125875010,2017-05-17 06:10:31,">>125874790 We're talking about philosophy. Logic and moral reasoning. If your moral reasoning can't handle the obvious fact that language is mutable and linguistic tokens that share some vague similarity don't necessarily convey the same ideas whenever they instantiate, you have BUNK REASONING.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001431 125860781,125875015,2017-05-17 06:10:37,">>125874805 > Jesus Christ no. Hell no. Why not show some respect in the way you evoke the Lord's name. >>125874865 Martyr's fought to the death and persisted in what they were doing to the end.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495001437 125860781,125875079,2017-05-17 06:11:34,">>125874964 OT is not binding where it contradicts NT. ""Do not use force against an evil man."" You're not a Christian or you'd know this. Jesus.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001494 125860781,125875161,2017-05-17 06:13:00,">>125875015 Any ""martyr"" who defied God by using violence against others is no martyr - they're a random sinner just like everyone else. Why are you talking about Christianity without knowing anything about it at all?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001580 125860781,125875179,2017-05-17 06:13:17,">>125862492 FREE bread? I think you mean stolen from the proletariat!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495001597 125860781,125875211,2017-05-17 06:14:00,">>125874996 > socially liberal Hardly. Read my above posts. >>125875010 I understand that. That was my point. Sure it could be that in the future slaughter means to 'bake dinner' and so your above statement above would suggest that people take that as friendly greeting. But regardless of the referent assigned to the concept of 'brutal murder' (as you and I understand it; slaughter) it seems very unlikely that regardless of the linguistic token employed if that's what is conveyed people would perceive as a threat.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495001640 125860781,125875257,2017-05-17 06:14:40,">>125874865 fuck off retard. You'll die a martyr and acheive nothing with your sacrifice. go be martyr somewhere else. You don't care about liberty, you just want to smoke weed and be selfish. you wont die for a cause. you're making excuses.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495001680 125860781,125875354,2017-05-17 06:16:02,">>125873408 This.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495001762 125860781,125875358,2017-05-17 06:16:03,">>125874661 And you're advocating viability for the business of threats. Putting people with guns outside of your building, sending you pictures of your daughter while in her school, a picture with your head on a scope from a building next to yours. Want to ruin someone? Make them spend all their money on security. Make them worry so they never are able to produce in peace. I don't want to wait for justice be done until you put a bullet in my daughter. Now, I'm not advocating for central law, I'm just saying, not on my covenant. Up to you if you want to live in a covenant where people can threaten your family and make it an economically sound option.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495001763 125860781,125875361,2017-05-17 06:16:05,">>125875211 What does ""likeliness"" have to do with moral reasoning? Absolutely nothing. It doesn't matter what you think is likely or unlikely when it comes to the sheer brute fact that you reduce you accept retard-reasoning that anything and everything can be construed as a threat and justifiably violently reacted against.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001765 125860781,125875408,2017-05-17 06:16:40,">>125875257 We'll both find out in the end. Hope you avoid hell senpai!",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001800 125860781,125875471,2017-05-17 06:17:28,You fags need Rothbard. There will be no ancap flags waving in Ancapistan. The Ancap flag is a war banner.,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,djBDEMhP/3vHQcYeNMeTXA==,US,,1495001848 125860781,125875501,2017-05-17 06:17:49,">>125875358 You could do all those things to me and I wouldn't care. “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) You've got problems you shouldn't have.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495001869 125860781,125875539,2017-05-17 06:18:31,I'll go to hell so my family can live free.,,Anonymous,Race.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,US,,1495001911 125860781,125875554,2017-05-17 06:18:39,,,Anonymous,Gg6Jn_kEfmCWpIkWw307xX3Tr8QMjJy21IKI7FRMyX0.jpg,hiRP4lPTTkAf2UvjY0VF9Q==,US,,1495001919 125860781,125875610,2017-05-17 06:19:33,"Be a real hero, and make the world a better place.",,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1495001973 125860781,125875676,2017-05-17 06:20:29,">>125860781 If I'm against everything in pic related does that make me an anarchist, /lrg/? >>125862492 >implying no roads isn't a positive",,Anonymous,IMG_5213.jpg,TxNnZDGc2L31iPLBd4VAQA==,AU,,1495002029 125860781,125875878,2017-05-17 06:22:57,">>125875079 That verses refers to forego financial compensation that is owed to you (a slap in the cheek was a more of an attack against the honour of an individual rather than injurious to the person) therefore Jesus says to these Jew's in persecution and converts that do not retaliate so to defend your honour but forego these things. Given that the Jews opposed the Christians and Romans the Jews and Christians.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495002177 125860781,125875880,2017-05-17 06:23:00,">>125875501 I'm willing to pay extra for my insurance to protect me from threats. Willing to pay extra to live in a private community where clear threats on my life are forbidden. If you're not, then that's entirely up to you. Only the market will show if you're willing to live in a community where threats are permitted.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495002180 125860781,125875894,2017-05-17 06:23:14,">>125875676 yeah, thats pretty /lrg/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495002194 125860781,125875945,2017-05-17 06:23:53,">>125875880 Why do I care about your willingness to pay for something? Pay for whatever you want, just don't fuck with people and don't encourage other people to fuck with people. I couldn't care less what you do otherwise.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495002233 125860781,125875976,2017-05-17 06:24:18,">>125860781 fuck off. libertarians are not welcome on /pol/",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1495002258 125860781,125876053,2017-05-17 06:25:12,">>125875976 This.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495002312 125860781,125876065,2017-05-17 06:25:25,">>125875361 > What does ""likeliness"" have to do with moral reasoning? My question to you. > reduce you accept retard-reasoning that anything and everything can be construed as a threat and justifiably violently reacted against. You don't seem to understand my reasoning and haven't offered a refutation. If you threaten to injury someone (speaking in more general terms) whether that manifest itself in the murder of their family, rape of his womenfolk or whatever, people would be justified in taking action.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495002325 125860781,125876098,2017-05-17 06:25:49,">>125875676 >does that make me an anarchist no you fucking retard.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1495002349 125860781,125876176,2017-05-17 06:26:58,">>125876053 >>125875976 Anyone care to venture why these people clinge onto statism? Molyneux's recent podcast did shine light on the psychology of statist. I am willing to wager that you guys have spent a major portion of your life in state institutions.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495002418 125860781,125876225,2017-05-17 06:27:40,">>125876065 You're the one talking about likeliness. >>125875211 >it seems very unlikely >>125874790 >I think it's very unlikely Likelihood has nothing to do with anything, ye you're trying to hand wave that because you think something isn't likely you don't have to address it in your reasoning, when YOU DO.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495002460 125860781,125876282,2017-05-17 06:28:25,">>125875945 >don't encourage other people to fuck with people. >Words/thoughts =/= actions. Omg you're a fascist. who are you to tell me not to encourage people to steal and kill in the name of communism, I'm literally shaking right now i can't even.",,Anonymous,snek (5).png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,US,,1495002505 125860781,125876351,2017-05-17 06:29:28,">>125876065 >If you threaten to injury someone (speaking in more general terms) whether that manifest itself in the murder of their family, rape of his womenfolk or whatever, people would be justified in taking action Tyrone is justified in slaying you for walking near him with a bulge in your pocket then, because Tyrone perceives you walking by him with a bulge in your pocket as a direct and immediate threat against his life. This is why your reasoning is fucking retarded.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495002568 125860781,125876392,2017-05-17 06:29:59,">>125876282 I can say whatever I want. And you can say whatever you want. We both get judged for each and every thing we do in the end.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495002599 125860781,125876476,2017-05-17 06:31:10,">>125875945 All you've done in this thread is try to paint your opinion against threats as the libertarian position (telling me I should not be scared of death, telling us that libertarianism is the oppossite of violent), but that's an authoritarian vision, there's no libertarian position when it comes to dealing with threats, there's only market for laws.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495002670 125860781,125876478,2017-05-17 06:31:10,,,Anonymous,0Y0XJVa.jpg,okDsf/V6KSH/ZIG4ToiaSw==,EE,,1495002670 125860781,125876481,2017-05-17 06:31:12,">>125876176 Your retarded ideas just lead to a worse state.",,Anonymous,ancap is not sustainable.png,L8A8j8CZa80GAJfZVjvzlA==,US,,1495002672 125860781,125876515,2017-05-17 06:31:41,">>125876225 Let me lay it out If a group of people who conspire against you and plan to overthrow your of way, you are justified in taking preemptive action.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495002701 125860781,125876516,2017-05-17 06:31:42,">>125876176 why do you cling to firms and capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1495002702 125860781,125876594,2017-05-17 06:32:52,">>125876481 o shit, someone on 4chan said so. must be fact.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495002772 125860781,125876634,2017-05-17 06:33:45,">>125876476 All I've done in this thread is explain to you that physicality SHOULD be where reactivity might logically be morally justified, because if you draw the line at words, thoughts, and gestures you're literally opening yourself up to absurdity.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495002825 125860781,125876658,2017-05-17 06:34:12,">>125876351 Nice attempt at purposefully obfuscating my point. I spoke in clear generalities. If someone (a party) declares whether directly or indirectly (in secret) that they intended to attack you. You are justified in fighting back. > Tyrone is justified in slaying you for walking near him with a bulge in your pocket then, because Tyrone perceives you walking by him with a bulge in your pocket as a direct and immediate threat against his life. Contrast this with what I've said above. In your example he would not be justified since I did not make claim to hurt him or his family or property.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495002852 125860781,125876681,2017-05-17 06:34:27,">>125876515 No you're not. You're incapable of even determining if a group of people mean you ill will in the first place.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495002867 125860781,125876753,2017-05-17 06:35:21,">>125876516 Capitalism is the best economic system. That is, it is the best way to allocate resources within a society.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495002921 125860781,125876754,2017-05-17 06:35:23,">>125876392 ""Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God""",,Anonymous,The_Revolutionary.png,V1/wvwPgIK9i7A5zk9Wldg==,US,,1495002923 125860781,125876847,2017-05-17 06:36:38,Will there be loli maid androids for domestic usage under ancap? This is a serious question.,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495002998 125860781,125876854,2017-05-17 06:36:44,">>125876658 You declared indirectly to Tyrone that you intended to attack him by walking by him with a bulge in your pocket. You cannot escape absurd moral reasoning here. You're committing to a completely untenable position.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495003004 125860781,125876860,2017-05-17 06:36:50,">>125876594 You can't disprove what was written there. Libertarians and ancaps are retards and should be put up against the wall for spreading their cancer. At least authoritarians are honest about what they are. The reason you call yourselves ""snakes"" is because that's exactly what you are. A bunch of lying, deceiving snakes that purposely misrepresent your ideas which are unquestionably shit. You're basically no different from Jews which isn't surprising considering your ideology is full of Jews.",,Anonymous,1494822032346.jpg,OaSv3tKa0CjEOkTlYzn4Tg==,US,,1495003010 125860781,125876866,2017-05-17 06:36:55,">>125876753 > here, let me make a claim without proving it good one buddy what makes a corporation different from a state? A state pretty much is a large corporation",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1495003015 125860781,125876878,2017-05-17 06:37:00,">>125876681 > You're incapable of even determining if a group of people mean you ill will in the first place. Sure if I interpret everything in your dismissive pacifist way.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495003020 125860781,125876895,2017-05-17 06:37:16,">>125876681 well if im pointing a gun at your head you are incapable of even determining that I intend to pull the trigger. so you'll just have to wait untill I actually do it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495003036 125860781,125876908,2017-05-17 06:37:22,">>125876754 Noncompliance is rebellion.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495003042 125860781,125876954,2017-05-17 06:38:05,">>125876895 >well if im pointing a gun at your head you are incapable of even determining that I intend to pull the trigger >so you'll just have to wait untill I actually do it Yep - you got it. And?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495003085 125860781,125876964,2017-05-17 06:38:13,">>125876634 >physicality SHOULD be where reactivity might logically be morally justified What you're talking about is a choice, your choice to be exposed to a specific set of moral values. This is not the libertarian position, this is your position.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495003093 125860781,125877029,2017-05-17 06:39:24,">>125876964 Libertarianism deals with *OUGHTS*. How things *OUGHT* to be. Libertarianism *AT IT'S CORE* is about morality.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495003164 125860781,125877073,2017-05-17 06:40:06,">>125876854 I thought I had clarified my position. We are speaking about direct threats made to you, and threats made to you that come to your attention (that is indirectly). And sure if I was at an ATM withdrawing money and a guy holding a gun is approaching me (I see this in the reflection of the ATM chasis) I would be justified in attacking him. Even if he didn't thats like walking into a bank with a mask and gun in your hand, wanting to open a cheque account and getting shot at",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495003206 125860781,125877184,2017-05-17 06:41:35,">>125877029 I completely disagree with that. Claiming absolute knowledge on how things ""ought"" to be is an authoritarian view.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495003295 125860781,125877253,2017-05-17 06:42:37,">>125877073 What constitutes a ""direct threat""? Tyrone sees you walking by with a bulge as a direct threat, and slaughters you in defensive retaliation of the threat he perceives in you. This is wrong by your reasoning because.........????",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495003357 125860781,125877254,2017-05-17 06:42:37,">>125876954 alright, you're a fool. >>125876908 >Noncompliance is rebellion. You're ideology is suicidal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495003357 125860781,125877265,2017-05-17 06:42:44,">>125876860 So much rage. Did you come here to showcase how inept you are at arguing for your views > Libertarians and ancaps are retards and should be put up against the wall for spreading their cancer. Sure thing Juan. One day you'll be white for supporting a failed political system.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495003364 125860781,125877411,2017-05-17 06:45:05,">>125877184 I don't care what you disagree with. It's absolutely true. Libertarianism prescribes that freedom is valuable and/or that interactions between people should be voluntary. That's simply the case - you cannot define libertarianism in a way that does not prescribe some state of affairs as ought to be the case that remotely resembles anything anyone would call libertarianism. Go ahead and try.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495003505 125860781,125877499,2017-05-17 06:46:13,">>125877254 It's not suicidal at all. I'm not doing anything to cause my own anyone else's death, and neither does anything I'm saying prescribe suicide to anyone. You're just a violent loony.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495003573 125860781,125877544,2017-05-17 06:46:56,">>125877265 It's not rage. I just enjoy calling you out. You're philosophically dishonest, that's what I don't like about you. You lack Heideggerian authenticity. What you really want to do is return to feudalism but you disguise it as ""freedom"" and trick dumb people into falling for your bullshit. That's why I'd personally love to put every libertarian against a wall.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495003616 125860781,125877585,2017-05-17 06:47:28,">>125877544 Forgot pic.",,Anonymous,tread on the snake.jpg,N8G5G26PzAzxsPccZxHpXw==,US,,1495003648 125860781,125877802,2017-05-17 06:50:18,">>125877499 good luck with your pacifism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495003818 125860781,125877816,2017-05-17 06:50:29,">>125877544 As I said before some people like you are weak. A world without government is a cold world, you're like a child abandoned on the side of the road. You should feel free to indenture yourself to whoever and form your own commune where your owner could take your income and restrict your rights as he sees fit. Are you angry because I call you out on your masochism? I on the other hand would like to live with my fellow White Christian brethren and not have my earnings taken from me and my liberties restricted.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495003829 125860781,125877911,2017-05-17 06:51:47,">>125877816 It's not a world without government you fucking idiot. What you propose would just lead to a worse form of government. See this post: >>125876481",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495003907 125860781,125878132,2017-05-17 06:54:17,">>125877802 Thanks senpai~",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495004057 125860781,125878199,2017-05-17 06:55:02,">>125877911 I would fight back against the mercenaries you moronic 16 year old spic Watch this and leave the radical hypothetical for later https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495004102 125860781,125878201,2017-05-17 06:55:03,">>125876098 :(",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495004103 125860781,125878350,2017-05-17 06:57:02,">>125877911 >government is bad, but we need government in order to not lose government and subsequently get government again",,Praceteom,questionmarkgirl13.jpg,i27+2ByqsIs64A113qhPYw==,US,,1495004222 125860781,125878569,2017-05-17 06:59:57,">>125878199 >he unironically believes in libertarianism >he calls me 16 lol no faggot. I WAS a libertarian when I was 16. It's an edgy phase you grow out of when you start to think about things more critically and your brain fully develops. You can say you'd ""fight back against the mercenaries"" all you want but that doesn't mean your rag tag militia would win against a highly trained well paid military force. And even if you did win, there's no checks and balances in place in your system to prevent that sort of threat from arising again or arising elsewhere. >>125878350 My point is that it's human nature for people to form governments. It's better to accept this fact and try to build the best government possible instead of pretending that governments won't exist. If you don't plan ahead you're going to end up with a shitty system.",,Anonymous,please tread on me.png,jcuFgF/UVjHAEH1iRwPKuw==,US,,1495004397 125860781,125878683,2017-05-17 07:01:36,">>125878569 Lol I bet you were an open borders fag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495004496 125860781,125878780,2017-05-17 07:02:58,">>125878683 Nope, I was a minarchist but even minarchy has it's flaws.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495004578 125860781,125878800,2017-05-17 07:03:10,">>125878569 You don't know what human nature is. There are no universal qualities of humanity that you can talk about that are anything more interesting than that ""humans have thoughts"" or other completely mundane and uninformative descriptive statements. What's *BEST* is to reject what's *BAD* or what's *MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE* in *ALL* cases, and not ever be complacent with bad and evil. If you fuck it up that's YOUR problem.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495004590 125860781,125879815,2017-05-17 07:16:45,">>125878800 How do you decide what's moral and what isn't? It sounds completely subjective. Historically, the only thing that has ever decided ""morality"" has been the force of violence. The group with the most guns and the most power decides what is ""moral"" within a given society. Maybe it's not always ""right"" but it's pragmatic. That's another issue I have with libertarians with regards to their ideas about force. Some people may say violence never solved anything but the fact is, violence has solved a lot throughout history. And yes, I do know what human nature is, ever since we learned how to farm we have developed city states and larger federal institutions around those city states. You can't ignore history for convenience sake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495005405 125860781,125880036,2017-05-17 07:19:51,">>125872626 Have you read ""Kulturkampf"" by Rothbard? Commies don't have these restraints.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495005591 125860781,125880143,2017-05-17 07:21:14,">>125879815 I put my faith and conviction in God as the ultimate and only source of objective morality, by which all human action is held standard. I don't care what violence has or hasn't done - it's morally wrong and is judged so.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495005674 125860781,125880218,2017-05-17 07:22:22,">>125860781 >muh taxation is theft",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1495005742 125860781,125880230,2017-05-17 07:22:30,">>125880036 Which is exactly why you shouldn't use the same logic as them, because you play into the absurd world of moral relativity that they so desperately crave to promulgate.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495005750 125860781,125880263,2017-05-17 07:22:53,">>125873850 Hello, Antifa.",,Anonymous,venus rosales first fisting scene.jpg,1V+fGJAoeY6i2hg/loAqGw==,SK,,1495005773 125860781,125880396,2017-05-17 07:24:32,,,Anonymous,2a0345a221af1279cba721db4d138549.jpg,e5rCxUdWsxANDdcFdKGEWg==,US,,1495005872 125860781,125880451,2017-05-17 07:25:24,">>125875179 Stolen from whoever baked it. Either way, it's gonna be moldy as hell by the time you reach it because muh bread lines.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495005924 125860781,125880454,2017-05-17 07:25:25,">>125880143 If that's the case, God has clearly always taken the side of the most violent throughout history. Otherwise he would have struck down the strong in favor of the meek. I don't believe in the conventional concepts of afterlife but I'm definitely not an atheist either. To me (((Christianity))) just seems like a method of control over the human condition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495005925 125860781,125880465,2017-05-17 07:25:32,>>125880263,,Anonymous,6-3-large.jpg,VqffxHi+koewzbSL87JURw==,US,,1495005932 125860781,125880505,2017-05-17 07:26:06,">>125879815 >I do know what human nature is Anything considered human nature must be universally found in humans. Getting together and pretending to be legitimate in beating people up and stealing their property is not a universal characteristic of all humans, as evidenced by all the humans who exist and have existed who don't and haven't done so. That's really obviously true.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495005966 125860781,125880520,2017-05-17 07:26:16,">>125880451 This bread line long enough for you?",,Anonymous,67626734506f2ad804b20af61a50090c.jpg,jWD4gRK/Gzz8BgQGKxWlug==,US,,1495005976 125860781,125880563,2017-05-17 07:26:53,>>125880505,,Anonymous,09COOKING-COOKIE2-superJumbo.jpg,nr8/Ssy9Z4Uw4392+heIQA==,US,,1495006013 125860781,125880613,2017-05-17 07:27:31,">>125880454 No - wicked people can have things that bring them pleasure occur, and people who do good can have horrible tragedy befall them. What happens on earth isn't relevant - sinners all get judged for their sin in the end. Each and every one.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495006051 125860781,125880677,2017-05-17 07:28:26,>>125880613,,Anonymous,09COOKING-SUGARCOOKIE-superJumbo-v3.jpg,aLZp7OF0RxJ/F9KBn5vvNw==,US,,1495006106 125860781,125880849,2017-05-17 07:30:55,">>125880505 Humans have been beating each other up and taking each others stuff since the beginning of time. Especially before we started forming city states and were hunter gatherers. If you came across a different tribe, there was a good chance there was going to be an altercation. The only reason we don't see it as much on a micro scale is because we have laws in place (which are backed up by the threat of violence) to prevent people from mindlessly killing one another. >>125880613 This is going into another conversation entirely. You can believe what you want to believe. I don't intend to change your spiritual values. With that said, from a pragmatic point of view, the perceived threat of violence and violence itself has always been a largly deterministic factor in how decisions have been made throughout history.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495006255 125860781,125880923,2017-05-17 07:31:58,>>125880849,,Anonymous,11breadsalad-superJumbo.jpg,mHwGK0DyhIkdiEJLKZuqSQ==,US,,1495006318 125860781,125880942,2017-05-17 07:32:11,"https://youtu.be/eVnDAa1LWpw A good introduction to our philosophy by the 1st Irregulars.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495006331 125860781,125880982,2017-05-17 07:32:44,>>125880942,,Anonymous,16COOKING-CHOCCHIPCOOKIES-superJumbo.jpg,j2kwiAn8HaBIXTVyPlDuJw==,US,,1495006364 125860781,125881040,2017-05-17 07:33:30,">>125880218 It is theft. Taking property through threat of use of force.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495006410 125860781,125881113,2017-05-17 07:34:19,">>125880230 Nothing immoral about not associating with communists and repelling their advances.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495006459 125860781,125881139,2017-05-17 07:34:43,">>125880849 I'm not a pragmatist. I ascribe to deontology and am a moral absolutist. What happens isn't relevant. The only thing that matters is the moral value of any given activity or endeavor. Laws don't stop anyone from doing anything. Upwards of 99% of all horrendous and immoral activities that even ever come to the knowledge of law enforcement have already happened. Law doesn't do anything at all.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495006483 125860781,125881154,2017-05-17 07:34:54,">>125880465 What did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495006494 125860781,125881220,2017-05-17 07:35:49,">>125881113 There's absolutely nothing immoral about not associating with people prima facie, but ""repelling their advances"" is a different question, because it depends on what you mean by ""repelling"" and ""advances"".",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495006549 125860781,125881232,2017-05-17 07:35:59,">>125880982 Toasting in bread, I see.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495006559 125860781,125881710,2017-05-17 07:42:11,">>125881139 That's silly. Laws prevent crime because people fear what could potentially happen if they broke said laws. Lots of people would kill or rape or steal if it wasn't for the perceived threat of violence through execution or imprisonment. Just because some people don't take that threat seriously you can't just make the assumption that no one does. When the veil of society and it's perceived threat of violence breaks down that's when we see human nature in it's most primal form. This happened during hurricane Katrina. It was obvious that the government could no longer make good on their promise to commit violence against wrongdoers, so we ended up in a situation where we had uncontrolled rapes, murders and theft. In this sense, the previous threat of violence was a good thing because up until the point that the veil was lifted due to natural disaster it was preventing many potential crimes from occurring.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495006931 125860781,125881822,2017-05-17 07:43:31,">>125881220 If they have an active movement, you have a right to keep them out of your community.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495007011 125860781,125881866,2017-05-17 07:44:03,">>125881139 >>125881710 Oh, and anyway, I'm going to bed so you can have the last word. I just hope you thought about the things I said.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495007043 125860781,125882144,2017-05-17 07:47:24,">>125881710 Laws don't prevent anything. You have to have a completely absurd conception of causality to think that laws *DO* anything. If there were no law prohibiting murder, do you really think people would be caused to murder? Because if you think that laws cause people to not murder, then you must simultaneously hold that not-laws would cause people to murder. Do you think that without laws, people would also just let murders happen? Do you think a person could just walk around a neighborhood, walk into people's homes, and kill one person after the next, from home to home, and nothing would ever stop him? You have to have a completely wacko idea of how humans actually behave and operate to believe laws are the only things between people and mass murder theft and violence, since - as it stands - the main PERPETRATORS of murder theft and violence ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE LAWS.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495007244 125860781,125882264,2017-05-17 07:48:56,">>125882144 >Because if you think that laws cause people to not murder, then you must simultaneously hold that not-laws would cause people to murder. This is not a logically sound conclusion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495007336 125860781,125882318,2017-05-17 07:49:39,">>125881822 If by ""out of your community"" you mean ""off your property"", sure - that's fine. You don't have a right to exercise property exclusion of property that isn't yours.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495007379 125860781,125882491,2017-05-17 07:52:07,">>125882264 Prevention is a cause. To prevent x is to cause not-x.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495007527 125860781,125882590,2017-05-17 07:53:09,">>125862492 >free bread >not bricks with mold and body parts It's like you've never read the Gulag archipelago or something.",,Anonymous,3BB6B4F200000578-0-image-a-22_1483101155805.jpg,lhdmpW5/M0i9kJQ1GwBi0Q==,US,,1495007589 125860781,125884767,2017-05-17 11:28:23,">>125860781 The 3rd Reich was a Hoppean Covenant Society. It doesn't contradict libertarian principles for free moral agents to enter a contract, and become part of an Authoritarian state. Personal freedoms are a commodity like any other, and you can't tell me not to engage in transactions with it. I can give up freedoms for security via contractual obligation if I want to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495020503 125860781,125887114,2017-05-17 11:57:59,">>125860781 What about IP? Will architects and chip designers starve?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495022279 125860781,125888047,2017-05-17 12:11:22,">>125887114 You can protect your ""ip"" but there will be no swat teams busting down doors for pirating. >>125884767 Maybe it was, I'm not sure if everyone involved agreed to the terms but I can't prove it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495023082 125860781,125888438,2017-05-17 12:15:25,">>125888047 >I'm not sure if everyone involved agreed to the terms It wasn't like the Soviet Union, where people were slaves with no ability to leave if they chose.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495023325 125860781,125888570,2017-05-17 12:17:00,">>125888047 >You can protect your ""ip"" but there will be no swat teams busting down doors for pirating. No, there will be private security companies busting doors, right?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495023420 125860781,125888971,2017-05-17 12:21:02,">>125888570 Not for stealing ideas >>125888438 Fair enough, Hail Victory.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495023662 125860781,125889446,2017-05-17 12:25:55,">>125888971 Hail victory!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495023955 125860781,125889796,2017-05-17 12:30:11,">>125889446 I love it when we get along. Those commies ain't gonna kill themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495024211 125860781,125890323,2017-05-17 12:36:33,">>125888971 Looks like you're dodging the question. WHO WILL PROTECT MY ORIGINAL RECREATIONAL NUKE DESIGN FROM BEING STOLEN (as in PIRATED)?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495024593 125860781,125890640,2017-05-17 12:40:54,">>125890323 Wew, IP isn't property. It's just privilege to allow a monopoly. I'm about freedom, go ahead and copy me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495024854 125860781,125890844,2017-05-17 12:43:31,">>125890323 coca cola has no ip protection on their recipe its almost like trade secret is a much more efficient mechanism than patent trolling",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495025011 125860781,125890849,2017-05-17 12:43:35,">>125890323 However if we're talking about stealing physical blueprints then you do have a claim. Call the nap police.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495025015 125860781,125891172,2017-05-17 12:47:19,">>125890640 >Intelectual property isn't property So you're a crypto-commie. >However if we're talking about stealing physical blueprints then you do have a claim. Call the nap police. No shit, Sherlock, IP always has a physical support, DUH!!! Otherwise it's just an idea in my head. Seems you're confusing the two.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495025239 125860781,125891184,2017-05-17 12:47:30,">>125889796 >I love it when we get along. I hope we do more often. We're the two generals with the most in common around here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495025250 125860781,125891370,2017-05-17 12:49:46,">>125861058 preach",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495025386 125860781,125891533,2017-05-17 12:51:37,">>125891172 If you post your nuke design on the internet and I copy it I have stolen nothing from you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495025497 125860781,125891618,2017-05-17 12:52:36,">>125890844 Let's say I make a song and write it on a CD. Someone steals it and makes 1000's of copies to sell them. What's the mechanism preventing/correcting this injustice?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495025556 125860781,125891788,2017-05-17 12:54:37,">>125891533 If I'm smart enough to design a nuke you'd guess I'd me smart enough not to post it on the Internet. Have any other strawman arguments?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495025677 125860781,125891999,2017-05-17 12:57:09,">>125891788 You're right, it would be dumb. But it wouldn't be theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495025829 125860781,125892053,2017-05-17 12:57:42,">>125891618 Then call the private death squads, someone stole property from you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495025862 125860781,125892143,2017-05-17 12:58:40,">>125891184 You know what the deal is with strasserfag threads? Seems like it's just about making NatSoc fight against /lrg/.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495025920 125860781,125892410,2017-05-17 13:01:36,">>125892143 >the deal is with strasserfag threads leftypol. if i could upload images i show the screencaps where they discuss using strasserism and nazbol as wedges to push the board left. Strasserism is just subversive bolshevism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495026096 125860781,125892557,2017-05-17 13:03:18,">>125892410 That's what I thought. Thanks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495026198 125860781,125892583,2017-05-17 13:03:38,">>125891999 >>125892053 So if the thief just copies the CD and doesn't steal it physically, then it's not theft?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495026218 125860781,125892673,2017-05-17 13:04:37,">>125892557 their commie general here failed, so they shifted tactics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495026277 125860781,125892783,2017-05-17 13:05:51,">>125860781 I have a question libertarian bros. I'm unsure as to what category my economic beliefs fall under. Not trying to debate just trying to figure out what I'm defined as. I believe in: >Free market domestically, and in order to protect it strong laws against collusion, trusts, monopolies, duopolies, and price fixing. >Strong labor unions, trade associations, co-ops, etc. >Strong immigration policies to protect labor from being undercut by imported workers. >Protectionist policies such as tariffs to prevent industry from shifting overseas. >Cutting of all regulations outside these areas to stimulate growth. >Lowering taxes/fees. >Well funded education system geared toward equipping students for careers in private industry >Well funded infrastructure system to stimulate economic growth and lower transportation/utility costs. Under what economic philosophy would I fall anons? Sorry for the off topic I've always wondered.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495026351 125860781,125892952,2017-05-17 13:07:53,">>125892783 National Capitalism. Read this: http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495026473 125860781,125893077,2017-05-17 13:09:21,">>125892783 probably right-centrist. maybe this will help you figure yourself out: http://spekr.org/",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495026561 125860781,125893175,2017-05-17 13:10:36,">>125882318 If their presence makes your property less attractive -> less valuable, that's a form of property crime. Either way, I wouldn't want to live with people who'd tolerate commies.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495026636 125860781,125893177,2017-05-17 13:10:36,">>125865374 Better question is how you people plan on paying for roads, controlling currency, maintaining a militia, and enforcing the law",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495026636 125860781,125893256,2017-05-17 13:11:44,">>125868156 >private entities Sounds suspiciously like feudalism. In the high middle ages in europe you had essentially private property ownership all the way down, as well as private armies and plurality of the judiciary in many cases. It was a clusterfuck and got sorted out into universalism pretty quick",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495026704 125860781,125893260,2017-05-17 13:11:47,">>125867112 Even the beards had to be rationed.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495026707 125860781,125893334,2017-05-17 13:12:40,">>125892583 Well to copy the CD without your permission is not ok.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495026760 125860781,125893335,2017-05-17 13:12:39,">>125892952 Thanks, this overlaps pretty well with my beliefs. National Capitalism it is then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495026759 125860781,125893606,2017-05-17 13:16:09,">>125893334 Well we at least agree on that. Then what?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495026969 125860781,125893702,2017-05-17 13:17:27,">>125893606 What do you mean? Use force to get your shit back. Nigga stole from you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495027047 125860781,125893826,2017-05-17 13:18:57,">>125882144 >people who make laws are the ones who break them Well, other than being a generally unfounded statement, whats stops people making laws (and then breaking them)?",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495027137 125860781,125893974,2017-05-17 13:21:06,">>125893702 >Get what back? What if he posted the song on the Internet and now everyone has a copy?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495027266 125860781,125894011,2017-05-17 13:21:32,">>125893702 Ok you got the anarchy part down Wheres the capitalism? A prerequisite for capitalism is clear property ownership. It seems that your idea of ownership is almost at primordial levels of literal physical ownership",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495027292 125860781,125894217,2017-05-17 13:24:26,">>125894011 >It seems that your idea of ownership is almost at primordial levels of literal physical ownership my thoughts exactly",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495027466 125860781,125894309,2017-05-17 13:25:33,">>125892952 >national capitalism Its called Mercantilism",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495027533 125860781,125894315,2017-05-17 13:25:34,">>125893974 How'd he get the CD then? Breaking and entering isn't fine as long as you don't steal anything. And if it's an employee you have them sign an NDA.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495027534 125860781,125894436,2017-05-17 13:27:12,">>125894011 It's not ""primordial"", it's objectively based, free of deceit, natural and universal.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1495027632 125860781,125894580,2017-05-17 13:29:10,">>125894315 ffs, let's say that I have the song on my mp3 player. A coworker at the company I work copies it while I take a piss, then I find it all over the Internet. Now what?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495027750 125860781,125894707,2017-05-17 13:30:40,"based culture directed by finance based secularism based black jewish gay men",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1495027840 125860781,125895062,2017-05-17 13:35:06,">>125894436 >anarcho primitivist detected",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495028106 125860781,125896812,2017-05-17 13:56:34,">>125894707 You have to go back.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495029394 125915293,125915293,2017-05-17 16:31:07,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. A reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ Pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg [Embed]",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,^~,lrg-op.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,PT,,1495038667 125915293,125915383,2017-05-17 16:31:54,,,^~,hoppe-feelgood.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,PT,,1495038714 125915293,125915475,2017-05-17 16:32:38,Go back to T_D kikes.,,Anonymous,tread.gif,trpQvlDN8BVRU+FlV87pfQ==,US,,1495038758 125915293,125915653,2017-05-17 16:33:45,"What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes Democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A",,^~,1490352715770.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,PT,,1495038825 125915293,125916881,2017-05-17 16:43:43,">>125915653 Your ideology is a meme",,Anonymous,b6a.jpg,LOuvyJGjy6Un5Qvyncr3pg==,GB,,1495039423 125915293,125917139,2017-05-17 16:45:46,">trip coding on a board with thread IDs Typical leftie logic",,Anonymous,2127679-1446341300786-_commission__admiral_mudkip_by_ziggyfin-d8g4k8r.jpg,eHHHf7uyzUERzF0/7rrz4Q==,US,,1495039546 125915293,125917432,2017-05-17 16:47:51,">>125916881 careful with my nap lad. >>125917139 you can bait better than that",,^~,1488735100127.jpg,ylHG+ULWWY4mKcM4OFjbgA==,PT,,1495039671 125915293,125917703,2017-05-17 16:50:08,">muh 100% free capitalism will solve everything ...until the jewiest jew has so much money that he hires the biggest army and enslaves the entire world",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495039808 125915293,125917759,2017-05-17 16:50:36,">>125917432 >When you want to gas Natsocs but Natsoc is the only ideology that is capable of defending you against the radical left W E W L A D E W L A D",,Anonymous,acb.jpg,XhtdRCMw6tHn+j76/QZleQ==,GB,,1495039836 125915293,125917976,2017-05-17 16:52:17,">>125917759 >implying we can't defend ourselves You realise national (((socialists))) will be the second out of the helicopters?",,Anonymous,1491701990550.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,GB,,1495039937 125915293,125918057,2017-05-17 16:53:00,">>125917759 nah mate we'll get them with private rabid police",,^~,make-my-day-hhh.jpg,tgbVnhziycImt8BNTrjHnA==,PT,,1495039980 125915293,125918365,2017-05-17 16:55:22,">>125917976 >Implying No I am stating, if you are ever in a position to throw communists from the helicopters it is because we shall let you. Then you go to the camps with your kike ideology.",,Anonymous,1492680612680.jpg,m9pcWMjtli70QRpUbf1lBQ==,GB,,1495040122 125915293,125918718,2017-05-17 16:58:20,">>125918365 mate you'll get removed from society before that we'll always win we have kikes on our side lad. get real. they'll finance rabid cyborg police to get you socialists",,^~,1485968035670.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1495040300 125915293,125919144,2017-05-17 17:01:30,">>125918718 >Socialism >Nazism >Implying you are the same thing >Implying the kikes won't force states to reform so they can continue to support Sonny you will be in the camps with them, then you will see some real NAP in action",,Anonymous,1495049876685.png,aJR+H7Z4RccePpomOoSd9Q==,GB,,1495040490 125915293,125919367,2017-05-17 17:03:16,">>125918718 >siding with the kikes Disgusting. Get your ass back to plebbit where it belongs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495040596 125915293,125919663,2017-05-17 17:05:28,">>125919144 >>125919367 mates kikes are the winning bet yall have to get real with this, you'll never stand a chance against 210IQ kikes lad",,^~,1491687812584.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1495040728 125915293,125919881,2017-05-17 17:07:07,">>125919663 >Kikes winning There has been a greater resurgence of the Right than I could ever hope, the kikes are on the run buckaroo",,Anonymous,3SaQ4.gif,f3gknE0CPekSEHCzsXC8IA==,GB,,1495040827 125915293,125920301,2017-05-17 17:10:36,">>125919881 >resurgence of the right where? I dont see it. Where are the monarchists movements",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495041036 125915293,125920350,2017-05-17 17:11:00,">>125917703 No jews in my enclave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495041060 125915293,125920394,2017-05-17 17:11:22,"Fucking lolberts your typical neckbeard retards living off their parents,who never worked a day in their lives and never wageslaved for a corporation before to get a bit of taste to what their autism that they call an ideology is....kek. Neck yourslef faggots you came here after the elction an your memes and ideology are shit.",,Anonymous,1494995506776.jpg,r6CvagoY38+GeUbG9GEKkA==,RO,,1495041082 125915293,125920559,2017-05-17 17:12:43,">>125920301 >Unironically believing in Monarchism Noted and saged",,Anonymous,00mosley2.jpg,ytBMbK99GiNVjzcLsWH5Jg==,GB,,1495041163 125915293,125920624,2017-05-17 17:13:12,">>125917759 Defending us? Pretty sure we started the whole ""beat commies with sticks"" meme. Or at least made it mainstream, when our people defended themselves.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495041192 125915293,125920683,2017-05-17 17:13:37,">>125920394 ok romania now fuck off back to the bread line",,^~,,,PT,,1495041217 125915293,125920801,2017-05-17 17:14:36,">>125918365 Nigger you don't let me do shit I'll skullfuck you. We'll use the commies' body parts as shrapnel when we drop barrel bombs on your socialist shitholes.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495041276 125915293,125920834,2017-05-17 17:14:47,">>125920559 im not talking about myself idiot",,Anonymous,mosley.jpg,1R0doCppQATkxqMGfTfn0A==,NL,,1495041287 125915293,125920873,2017-05-17 17:15:11,,,Anonymous,a484e7ed811c33f0adcfcc8e4dc1ca501d81f85a.png,8SmWDS6eKSIcXJQ14dnOtw==,FI,,1495041311 125915293,125920901,2017-05-17 17:15:24,">>125919144 So the Jews support the state now? Finally you've realised it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495041324 125915293,125920923,2017-05-17 17:15:33,>>125920873,,Anonymous,688b120dc0d536209657ab4450180f504018e909.gif,VijKggn5Fcz03dFFL2CYug==,FI,,1495041333 125915293,125920956,2017-05-17 17:15:52,>>125920923,,Anonymous,4bc3b5ededafe28b13aa85dec6fefec5acdfe041.jpg,jnb2AIDogHANfEfDEcmEiQ==,FI,,1495041352 125915293,125920986,2017-05-17 17:16:12,">>125920624 >""beat commies with sticks"" >What was the SA? >What was the SS? >What was Nazism? >when our people defended themselves. When have an-caps actually done anything boyo",,Anonymous,The Merchant.jpg,wjB45xCZmBoXNSEO0ovSUQ==,GB,,1495041372 125915293,125921002,2017-05-17 17:16:21,>>125920956,,Anonymous,17rvzk.jpg,BmdS+8Bi1cXJPq/dFJ2irg==,FI,,1495041381 125915293,125921021,2017-05-17 17:16:27,">>125918718 >>125919663 Nigga no. The only Jews I tolerate are the guy who got his head smashed in March4Trump Berkeley and Lew Rockwell.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495041387 125915293,125921048,2017-05-17 17:16:41,>>125921002,,Anonymous,2017-HOME-OFFICE-TOP-ART-WW2-oil-painting-Russia-leader-joseph-font-b-stalin-b-font.jpg,CpK9VfIq4OllCrSSim/LqQ==,FI,,1495041401 125915293,125921088,2017-05-17 17:16:59,"All internationalist scum will be ligned up against the wall https://youtu.be/P0psF0cnLHE",,Anonymous,falange_light.jpg,CLD7aEjhdbgq4OIngAAM9Q==,NL,,1495041419 125915293,125921097,2017-05-17 17:17:00,>>125921048,,Anonymous,d151fe69b5c47da401c43cc3a6e681761080ae36bdf7f4290e1da4d44f141b40.png,O1BlnMIbiYcgizVlj/f2og==,FI,,1495041420 125915293,125921145,2017-05-17 17:17:19,>>125921097,,Anonymous,stalin_wedding.jpg,/kIDPd78vWEDm6qS/ubDkg==,FI,,1495041439 125915293,125921187,2017-05-17 17:17:35,">>125920834 Oh lord a Swamp German, why don't you mosey back into your bog, besides everyone knows you will be the first ones thrown into the ocean when the NAP comes",,Anonymous,1474805087338.png,Ey7fM4xMrlocgiPRI5JpvA==,GB,,1495041455 125915293,125921219,2017-05-17 17:17:50,>>125921145,,Anonymous,Lenin-and-Stalin-on-the-conversation-1951.jpg,/8bO+DjhU5Hs4XmHHdTOeg==,FI,,1495041470 125915293,125921248,2017-05-17 17:18:04,">>125921021 Lew isn't a jew lad. Chill.",,^~,1488286936432.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1495041484 125915293,125921279,2017-05-17 17:18:20,,,Anonymous,1493824201510.jpg,85L/V22sr8iD95ct9o7Pgg==,US,,1495041500 125915293,125921283,2017-05-17 17:18:22,">>125921219 And so on and so on, thank your for your time and goodbye",,Anonymous,il_fullxfull.367639837_3m4s.jpg,Y4UQ39laZ2cXstaKiwU88w==,FI,,1495041502 125915293,125921310,2017-05-17 17:18:39,">>125920901 >Implying Jews support a Nazi state >Implying Jews get to support when they are gassed hmm....",,Anonymous,1494866855550.png,iIM3l3Qt+uaif6VWkZqSnQ==,GB,,1495041519 125915293,125921359,2017-05-17 17:19:04,">>125920394 Oh boy, can't wait for the government to take my shit and give it to the gypsies! How do you even connect to the Internet? Is Romania that bad that the Indoniggers live in cities and not in isolated ghettos that can be conveniently flooded?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495041544 125915293,125921428,2017-05-17 17:19:45,">>125920559 Monarchy is superior to democracy at the very least. That's not even a high-level redpill.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495041585 125915293,125921449,2017-05-17 17:19:55,">>125921097 Stalin is owned by NazBols now. Our side now has him and Hitler. Thanks so much for helping our cause.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495041595 125915293,125921477,2017-05-17 17:20:11,">>125921187 >implying im scared of some anarchist kiddy diddlers keep dreaming",,Anonymous,1486775946992.jpg,c61iCAEgd3wM0GjTB/MgYw==,NL,,1495041611 125915293,125921559,2017-05-17 17:20:55,">>125921279 bretty good lol",,^~,sssssh-no-taxes-now.jpg,eRJvmmQKqYQhpJd5Ng9CcQ==,PT,,1495041655 125915293,125921699,2017-05-17 17:22:15,Fucking communists and antifa are violating this thread's NAP!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495041735 125915293,125921762,2017-05-17 17:22:43,">>125921477 >Implying that the being introduced to water would be a notable difference to the waterlogged mistake that your country is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495041763 125915293,125921769,2017-05-17 17:22:45,">>125920873 >>125920923 >>125920956 >>125921002 >>125921048 >>125921097 >>125921145 >>125921219 >>125921283 t. never had to live under a communist regime How's it feel to get beaten by a faggy mobile game designer while you have guys with AKs on your side?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495041765 125915293,125921776,2017-05-17 17:22:50,"What's going on motherfuckers, sure are a lot of commie scum around today.",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME_2_.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1495041770 125915293,125921817,2017-05-17 17:23:07,">>125920901 Your state maybe, but not in a white natsoc ethnostate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495041787 125915293,125921891,2017-05-17 17:23:40,">>125921449 >NazBol Yes goy, now you get to not really gas the Jews AND starve at the same time.",,Anonymous,leftypol.png,BQGvX9G+Hu1VhI2nUC3gAw==,SK,,1495041820 125915293,125921971,2017-05-17 17:24:21,">>125921776 Ikr, fucking commies are violating this thread's NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495041861 125915293,125922210,2017-05-17 17:26:24,">>125920986 Have you been living under a rock? Kyle is a libertarian and he smashes commie skulls as a hobby. The entire core behind the battles for Berkeley was run by Rich Black and his organisation, all libertarians. It's not the SS yet, because this is not Weimar quite yet, but it's not far. Also I meant recent years. A lot has changed in the last 80 years.",,Anonymous,kyle bat.jpg,Nhw89ilpps4XSfBtYphB1Q==,SK,,1495041984 125915293,125922284,2017-05-17 17:26:57,">>125921088 Good thing we're nationalists. 1433!",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495042017 125915293,125922450,2017-05-17 17:28:12,">>125922210 >Implying that Libertarians ideology is anything but a stepping stone to Nazism Not that much has changed fellow",,Anonymous,c66807d0-f30c-e711-80e2-816ff0a4276e.jpg,4wJZ+FqZBOZbsZqS1/KoVA==,GB,,1495042092 125915293,125922478,2017-05-17 17:28:25,">>125921187 When the NAP comes, pretty sure Germany will be worse off than the Netherlands. You niggers deserve it for ruining everything since ever. Just like the Jews, only less ugly (though Goebbels doesn't have the latter luxury).",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495042105 125915293,125922651,2017-05-17 17:29:47,">>125920394 we were there to begin with, but I get that's something a gypsying traveling thief can't grasp",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495042187 125915293,125922658,2017-05-17 17:29:52,">>125922478 >sure Germany will be worse off I do not care because I shall be laughing at both the regular and swamp Germans from my island.",,Anonymous,1474809643525.gif,bXblRDXJXx/EB0JPccuNEg==,GB,,1495042192 125915293,125922759,2017-05-17 17:30:47,">>125921088 Sounds good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495042247 125915293,125922807,2017-05-17 17:31:09,">>125921248 He isn't? That's even better. He's a lot like Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495042269 125915293,125923003,2017-05-17 17:32:39,">>125921310 >Nazi state The only state they don't support, but they did give them money at first. Either way, I still think me not serving subhumans in my business will make them tear their hair out.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495042359 125915293,125923150,2017-05-17 17:33:57,">>125921477 >kiddy diddlers >ancaps Direct your concerns to the local religious institute or homosexual quarter or whatever degeneracy you faggot westerners have.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495042437 125915293,125923250,2017-05-17 17:34:42,">>125923003 I am quite content for them to give the state money only to be exterminated its kinda of like how it works in the Anarcho-Capitalist society, buy ammo of your neighbour and then kill him to get your money back. Our ideologies are compatible.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495042482 125915293,125923347,2017-05-17 17:35:25,">>125921477 >Kiddy diddlers Nah that's the people who run our government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495042525 125915293,125923435,2017-05-17 17:36:07,"this is retarded. stalin and nazi posters are retarded and suck up to strong authority figures like complete simpletons. There is no good political system, only grassroots blue collar common sense.",,Anonymous,2017-05-17 19_18_03-Greenshot.png,DlW8FRBl5ybyXFjC6wjP0w==,IS,,1495042567 125915293,125923515,2017-05-17 17:36:44,">>125921817 Why does it gotta be socialist? I want freedom of enterprise and I don't want others to pay for any mistakes I make. I don't want to depend on others without them getting something out of it too (a.k.a. I want to be inter-dependent through the market, not dependent through a welfare system). I don't want any state telling me whom to trade with - I am confident in my capabilities. And I certainly want to rule over my own property as its rightful owner with no faggy bureaucrat cutting in telling me what to do.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495042604 125915293,125923595,2017-05-17 17:37:25,">>125915293 Reddit lolbergs fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495042645 125915293,125923629,2017-05-17 17:37:42,">>125923435 >HURR DURR I KNOW HOW TO DO THINGS MYSELF >WORLD IS FUCKED > THE NAP, WE AIN'T AGREEING TO THE NAP You need a state laddie, it don't need you but you need it",,Anonymous,a53.jpg,ddlouoPXj3YqTQrZidKPAQ==,GB,,1495042662 125915293,125923745,2017-05-17 17:38:41,">>125922450 Heh, that's what the lefties say. They even keep conspiracy theories about us only having Jews in our movement to excuse our blatant anti-Semitism. Gas the bankers, end the FED now, gold-backed currency soon. We're the real racists, DR3 is a meme.",,Anonymous,rothbard state.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,SK,,1495042721 125915293,125923918,2017-05-17 17:39:59,">>125923745 It is true though but if you are a kike as I suspect the ride ends here schlomo",,Anonymous,871.gif,RS5PI1fc0FZmS5aQ3RiQJg==,GB,,1495042799 125915293,125923963,2017-05-17 17:40:28,">>125922658 We'll keep their best stock, but us Slavs fucking hate Germans. If this Generation Identity doesn't work out, we're going to be stuffing them into lockers and running gas into them.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495042828 125915293,125924001,2017-05-17 17:40:51,">>125920394 Alright gypsy, you got me triggered. I work skilled labor 12 hours a fucking day and still make time to make money on the side. What the fuck do you do? You probably cast spells on people for bread scraps You kike gypsy peice of shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495042851 125915293,125924006,2017-05-17 17:40:53,why dont libertarians just call themselves Gay Weed Commandos,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495042853 125915293,125924147,2017-05-17 17:41:57,">>125923745 Based Slovakia, based Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495042917 125915293,125924176,2017-05-17 17:42:16,,,Anonymous,Uncle-hans1.jpg,X2boMDRl5Ps/mtSYpyFjnA==,GB,,1495042936 125915293,125924229,2017-05-17 17:42:49,">>125923629 >it don't need you Then whence cometh its income?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495042969 125915293,125924285,2017-05-17 17:43:15,,,Anonymous,CN6QyKpWwAAisyF.jpg,pA5usxwI6CfANN1LcH1GMQ==,GB,,1495042995 125915293,125924626,2017-05-17 17:45:57,">>125920394 >came here after the elction Newfag",,Anonymous,c3b (1).jpg,ebPInIZUQdj0aA8yxew8BA==,GB,,1495043157 125915293,125924643,2017-05-17 17:46:03,">>125924229 From normal human beings who do not believe in a meme ideology sonny jim",,Anonymous,1494959792451.jpg,0Ojba60/MHtck7nMPin9fg==,GB,,1495043163 125915293,125924758,2017-05-17 17:47:04,">>125923250 Why would I kill my own neighbour in an established ancap society? Basically the road to ancap is this - >white people get fucking fed up and radicalise because of CulMar >race war in SA, violence in the West normalised, commies & more radical libcucks vs. anyone with half a brain or more >commies BTFO, degenerates purged from society, people form communities of like-minded people to survive easier >economy heals, people resume life separated and happy - then form up into larger groups until no further arrangements can be made This model is universal for all of the right wing. I suggest you watch Augustus Sol Invictus talk about this, he's a solid lad.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495043224 125915293,125924837,2017-05-17 17:47:33,">>125924006 Lol ebin dude xDDD",,Anonymous,1486107510992.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1495043253 125915293,125924960,2017-05-17 17:48:32,">>125923595 >reddit lolbergs >/lrg/ oh no it's retarded",,Anonymous,nes-hiss-ary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,SK,,1495043312 125915293,125924963,2017-05-17 17:48:32,">>125923515 The socialism in NatSoc refers to a racially pure culture, not leftist economics. You have capitalism under NatSoc, so long as it doesn't harm the nation or her people (e.g. exploitation), in which case you would be physically removed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_socialism#National_Socialism",,Anonymous,nazi-economic-system.jpg,7vWI4fyUturuL7qXg0AOfg==,US,,1495043312 125915293,125924979,2017-05-17 17:48:44,">>125924758 >>economy heals, people resume life separated and happy - then form up into larger groups until no further arrangements can be made Implying that they will not just form states",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495043324 125915293,125924993,2017-05-17 17:48:51,">>125924006 Is this a gay weed commando?",,Anonymous,johnson.jpg,RTrU++IYqQoC/CFbMJZPuQ==,US,,1495043331 125915293,125925048,2017-05-17 17:49:24,">>125924643 So the state does in fact completely rely on, and need, its citizens then?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495043364 125915293,125925207,2017-05-17 17:50:30,">>125924993 No. That's what we refer to as a ""faggot""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495043430 125915293,125925219,2017-05-17 17:50:32,">>125923918 Hopefully not, haven't taken a single genetic examination, uncircumcised, secular upbringing, no freaky hat-wearing weirdos in the family, no significantly Jewish features.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495043432 125915293,125925388,2017-05-17 17:51:54,">>125924006 Because we hate faggots (see Hoppe's thoughts on Keynes' sex life - top bantz). Also weed is degenerate, but I'm not going to shoot you for it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495043514 125915293,125925466,2017-05-17 17:52:27,">>125924147 That's my quote, some anon made the image.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495043547 125915293,125925482,2017-05-17 17:52:34,">research historical cases of anarcho-capitalism >find book called ""On the Steppes of Central Asia"" >apparently makes case for Mongolia being semi-ancap >read first few chapters >almost jizz from the ancap-ness >research mongolian revolution >it was peaceful >but the book said they ate the communists >check genre >""fiction"" >mfw",,Anonymous,feels bad.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,US,,1495043554 125915293,125925598,2017-05-17 17:53:25,">>125925048 >So the state does in fact completely rely on, and need, its citizens then? >Implying ancaps are citizens >Implying ancaps are humans Slow up jimbo we are reaching here",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495043605 125915293,125925606,2017-05-17 17:53:30,">>125925466 I know.",,Anonymous,1494522281206.jpg,qLJSnw2XZiAp1rxYy9LijA==,US,,1495043610 125915293,125925624,2017-05-17 17:53:40,">>125924643 That sounds an awful like dependence on the working population, does it not to you?",,Anonymous,hayek pepe.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,SK,,1495043620 125915293,125925741,2017-05-17 17:54:38,">>125925466 Top kek",,Anonymous,Hans-Hoppe-ořez-e1494337275956.png,FIa9cfUc/dY8l5h/jxmw4Q==,GB,,1495043678 125915293,125925780,2017-05-17 17:54:52,">>125925624 >Implying an actual an-cap will benefit in a society unless hey depend on the working population Lets not get crazy goys",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495043692 125915293,125925787,2017-05-17 17:54:56,Any good books on the theory that Iceland used to be a somewhat Ancap society in medieval times?,,^~,moço.png,uNKKOGSYTu2Y2foX4fEjjQ==,PT,,1495043696 125915293,125925840,2017-05-17 17:55:21,">>125924963 Is it anything like this? http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ Ignore the bit about civic nationalism, they've since gotten redpilled.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495043721 125915293,125926015,2017-05-17 17:56:38,">>125925598 Yeah, that's what I thought. Don't reply to me ever again.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495043798 125915293,125926125,2017-05-17 17:57:21,">>125926015 >Thinking >An-Cap Pick one",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495043841 125915293,125926138,2017-05-17 17:57:27,">>125924979 If people consent to it, it's alright. Technically that wouldn't be a state, but I get your point. However, living in a civilisation is not natural to man. Take the Iron Pill.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495043847 125915293,125926355,2017-05-17 17:59:14,">>125924979 If ancap forms Nations based on consent that would be great. You have a problem with that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495043954 125915293,125926447,2017-05-17 17:59:52,">>125926138 >However, living in a civilisation is not natural to man. >Every time humans achieve something it is because they form a civilisation I think we have a trend here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495043992 125915293,125926497,2017-05-17 18:00:22,">>125925780 Of course I don't benefit from society and the state, that's why I'm against it! You take my shit and what do I get in return? Underwhelming pseudo-infrastructure made by undermotivated workers.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044022 125915293,125926569,2017-05-17 18:00:56,">>125926355 >If ancap forms Nations based on consent that would be great. You have a problem with that? >Implying a ideology as selfish as anarcho-Capitalism could put aside their greed and differences and form nations based on consent. W E W L A D",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044056 125915293,125926576,2017-05-17 18:01:01,">>125925787 Not a book but David freidman wrote an essay that's relevant, if you haven't already seen it. Focuses on their privatisation of law http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Iceland/Iceland.html",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044061 125915293,125926676,2017-05-17 18:01:46,">>125926125 You need to chile it with the doodyposting just a wee bit, lad.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044106 125915293,125926751,2017-05-17 18:02:22,">>125926497 >IMMA MAKE MY OWN SOCIETY WHERE I CAN BE RICH AND HAVE GOOD INFASTRUCTURE >Loses everything due to anarco-Capitalism and its innate stupidity I guess we just need to respect the NAP more",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044142 125915293,125926830,2017-05-17 18:03:01,">>125926676 I wish I was shitposting",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044181 125915293,125926858,2017-05-17 18:03:10,">>125926447 It's almost as if what you refer to as ""achievement"" is inherently tied to civilisation. I'm not saying we should completely reject the thing. Just... think outside of the box. Take cold showers. Go on long hikes. Keep in touch with nature.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044190 125915293,125926985,2017-05-17 18:04:01,">>125926569 Implying liberty, non aggression, voluntary association, and free markets are selfish...",,Anonymous,quote-rightful-liberty-is-unobstructed-action-according-to-our-will-within-limits-drawn-around-us-by-the-thomas-jefferson-94097 (1).jpg,rK40CqeAMpRa5g2p/AJWnA==,GB,,1495044241 125915293,125927108,2017-05-17 18:04:51,">>125926830 Then you probably only have 2 wishes left, son",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044291 125915293,125927128,2017-05-17 18:04:59,">>125926576 Thanks, lad!",,^~,1490738214046.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,PT,,1495044299 125915293,125927172,2017-05-17 18:05:22,">>125926569 We're not greedy and we've banded together to bantz anarcho-obsurist-hyphenists. We still identify with our nations, but we recognise that the status quo is unsustainable. We just have a different solution - one that leaves less toothing for another change back to this CulMar suicide.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044322 125915293,125927268,2017-05-17 18:06:06,">>125926751 Not behaving like a nigger is quite essential to AnCap, yes.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044366 125915293,125927314,2017-05-17 18:06:26,">>125926569 >Muh greed. Kys faggot. You fags are blind sighted by the importance we place on economics. Money is a false god. What really matters is you, your family, your friends and free will. I don't want my family to be subject to the crimes against humanity the state is so prone to committing. You really have a problem with that? Do you think your government is not going to be corrupt? You think they'll serve the interests of the people? You're dead fucking wrong, idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495044386 125915293,125927325,2017-05-17 18:06:28,">>125926830 I wish I was in Dixie you faggot.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044388 125915293,125927439,2017-05-17 18:07:20,">>12592685 It is almost as if Anarcho-Capitalists have an ideology based on selfish goals and ambitions that would never be accepted in any society so they can only advocates society's destruction >free markets are selfish... OH BOY OH BOY CAN'T WAIT FOR THE ECONOMY TO FIX MY CRIPPLING DEBT >Freedom of association >Implying any form of discourse can occur without violating the NAP and being shot",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044440 125915293,125927546,2017-05-17 18:08:00,">>125927268 This implies that slavs are not niggers, I mean slav=slaves kiddo we need to get real here",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044480 125915293,125927551,2017-05-17 18:08:02,">>125924837 >all those quotes sound like autists. what was your point?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495044482 125915293,125927593,2017-05-17 18:08:22,">>125927325 This.",,Anonymous,don_t_tread_on_me_confederate_flag_3_x_5_1.jpg,R5UhtC+lZRG9OGE1kSQzXw==,US,,1495044502 125915293,125927686,2017-05-17 18:09:06,">>125915293 pipedream",,Anonymous,ancap-chan-m.png,iA28VjUk1jRtmgAPu3qYOQ==,NL,,1495044546 125915293,125927831,2017-05-17 18:10:14,">>125927439 >selfish goals and ambitions Like? >can only advocates society's destruction >Implying any form of discourse can occur without violating the NAP and being shot Do you actually think that you're doing a favor to yourself posting these shit arguments? You're making everyone you reply to look like fucking gods compared to your brainlet posts.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495044614 125915293,125927842,2017-05-17 18:10:17,">>125927439 Which debt? The one caused by your stupidity or by the stupidity of your government?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044617 125915293,125927849,2017-05-17 18:10:20,ITT,,Anonymous,579.png,nqihCfWszie7T1HcHO45zA==,CA,,1495044620 125915293,125928041,2017-05-17 18:11:46,">>125927831 >God >Implying God's omnipresence is not violating the NAP",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044706 125915293,125928088,2017-05-17 18:12:05,">>125927546 The name Slav means glory and not having to drive past 10 mosques on your way to work. Seriously, I've seen the main street in Manchester, and that's probably not the worst one there. Why is it that Bongistan is a Muslim country? The only Muslim places of worship here are kebab stands.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044725 125915293,125928141,2017-05-17 18:12:33,>>125928041,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495044753 125915293,125928254,2017-05-17 18:13:24,">>125927842 >Which debt? The one caused by your stupidity or by the stupidity of your government? WE SHOULD JUST TAKE THE DEBT, AND MOVE IT OVER THERE! Everyone knows protectionism is the best form of market",,Anonymous,ANCAP.jpg,d58ToL0yfpVGUey7AaXKIA==,GB,,1495044804 125915293,125928276,2017-05-17 18:13:31,Russian libertarians bump into thread,,Anonymous,y3eXkYZsLZw.jpg,i4+7kO4MjD2+8tTOylK7FA==,RU,,1495044811 125915293,125928325,2017-05-17 18:13:50,>NAP,,Anonymous,1490995235562.jpg,tmVbNjSJLsDOl0NFp/2PLA==,US,,1495044830 125915293,125928396,2017-05-17 18:14:19,">>125928088 It also means accepting that you are less than white buckaroo, uncle adolf did have a plan for you.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044859 125915293,125928470,2017-05-17 18:14:48,">>125928254 Answer the question, niggerfaggot.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044888 125915293,125928481,2017-05-17 18:14:53,">>125928141 ME",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044893 125915293,125928543,2017-05-17 18:15:24,">>125927551 >Rothbard, professor of economics >dr. hoppe, Professor Emeritus of Economics >rockwell, chairman of the mises institute Yep, trio of autists...",,Anonymous,Agent Orange (1).jpg,Td7GkJJjQU0NjE5HGA7Oew==,GB,,1495044924 125915293,125928596,2017-05-17 18:15:46,">>125928325 Smashing a Stirnerite's face against a glass table and skullfucking them is completely moral and definitely in my self-interest.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495044946 125915293,125928680,2017-05-17 18:16:17,">>125928470 Calm down slow-vene, I ain't in no debt don't you worry, more than I can say about your knock off croatian country no? Besides expecting me to ask question when I do not want is violating the NAP",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495044977 125915293,125928691,2017-05-17 18:16:22,">>125928041 >>125928325 >>125927551 >>125927686",,Anonymous,1493800648452s.jpg,NmiH2Ys6kVb49XGNyD61cA==,MT,,1495044982 125915293,125928760,2017-05-17 18:16:48,">>125927325 >tfw when not in dixie, sat on my porch with a shotgun and houndog",,Anonymous,"flat,800x800,075,f.u1.jpg",PYvr1HVItRw+hGPZPgz/1w==,GB,,1495045008 125915293,125928823,2017-05-17 18:17:10,">>125928596 Want to take a ride in my helicopter? It has seat warmers, I think you'd REALLY like it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045030 125915293,125928868,2017-05-17 18:17:36,">>125928691 Ah and here comes Malta that little speck in the mediterranean that only ever was important as a base for our ships. Go on tell me about your New World Order malteaser.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045056 125915293,125928907,2017-05-17 18:17:54,">>125928396 And now he's sniffing violets from the under ground. Funny how that works. Even better that Slovakia managed to survive the war without major problems, kek. What came after was worse. Face it - your country is being taken away from you, and it's not the Slavs who are threatening your existence.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495045074 125915293,125929025,2017-05-17 18:18:47,>>125928691,,Anonymous,b76.jpg,Kj2ES2e6/q1fl0T8NUEAPA==,NL,,1495045127 125915293,125929068,2017-05-17 18:19:10,">>125928907 >Even better that Slovakia managed to survive the war without major problems, kek. >What was Yugoslavia >What was communism >What was tito? Ok kiddo ok",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045150 125915293,125929129,2017-05-17 18:19:34,">>125928680 Talk to me when you're ruling the waves.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495045174 125915293,125929131,2017-05-17 18:19:36,"Russia cyka blяt!!!!1 We fucked goddamn commie who fuck us and now ready for freedom %%But Ukraine its Russian province%%",,Anonymous,P8zcu4pPSUM.jpg,Y0N0TY98LE3Vakc5+yCq1A==,RU,,1495045176 125915293,125929179,2017-05-17 18:19:52,">>125929068 DESU your country is just a rip of of slovenia",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045192 125915293,125929293,2017-05-17 18:20:41,">>125929129 Oh that is right as well, do remember your country was only ever worth anything when you had your check brethren to help you",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045241 125915293,125929385,2017-05-17 18:21:23,">>125928760 >tfw not 1848 patrolling for Hungarians in the Carpathian range with my buddies, arguing which version of the Slovak language we should adapt J U S T U S Tice for trayvon my niBBa",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495045283 125915293,125929423,2017-05-17 18:21:38,"Bump for right wing populism. If you don't like anything in this list you're probably a faggot. Also for you purists, everything here is nap friendly.",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism_0.png,djBDEMhP/3vHQcYeNMeTXA==,US,,1495045298 125915293,125929445,2017-05-17 18:21:48,">>125928691 In theory great but reality no no.",,Anonymous,764d632fa0179be707055d52f7842bc97c21ebf7e812f2e66f0df6f0eccdd291_1.jpg,sUE/n52kSGaW9sT998BrrA==,NL,,1495045308 125915293,125929492,2017-05-17 18:22:14,">>125929129 You are a landlocked country slav I already rule the waves when it comes to you",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045334 125915293,125929549,2017-05-17 18:22:30,">>125929293 It´s funny how you're bragging so much about your country when all its success is built on Capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495045350 125915293,125929682,2017-05-17 18:23:26,>>125916881,,Anonymous,1nlu3i.jpg,+bCW9DidnSMNJLKp4GRD/Q==,US,,1495045406 125915293,125929721,2017-05-17 18:23:40,>>125929025,,Anonymous,hippity-hoppity-get-the-fuck-off-my-property-16613836.png,W6BZ1ezbkGYbnBD2hf0AWw==,GB,,1495045420 125915293,125929786,2017-05-17 18:24:01,">>125929549 >Implying a National Socialist does not appreciate capitalist I ain't a commie malteaser",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045441 125915293,125929814,2017-05-17 18:24:14,">>125929492 LOL you only rule the wave in europe because my states military lets you. your shit is cucked by my many aircraft carriers, destroyers and nuclear subs. don't even try to be alpha.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045454 125915293,125929854,2017-05-17 18:24:27,">>125929721 kek",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495045467 125915293,125929877,2017-05-17 18:24:36,">>125919663 whites are 678 iq",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045476 125915293,125929933,2017-05-17 18:25:03,">>125929682 >Implying that an amerifat could get out of his chair to go around saying that",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045503 125915293,125929971,2017-05-17 18:25:24,">>125920394 yuo mean dems rihgt? after the lesbian dance major does get much job?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045524 125915293,125929983,2017-05-17 18:25:28,">>125929293 All slavs are brother with russians. Our victory's its victory's for all slavs",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495045528 125915293,125930045,2017-05-17 18:25:55,">>125929814 >A wild American appears Ah lets be calm here cletus, wait around for Ivan I am sure he will come tell you what you should say next soon ok?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045555 125915293,125930116,2017-05-17 18:26:27,">>125920559 you didnt read the book economic theory discovered that we would be 100x richer now if monarchy had kept in",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045587 125915293,125930183,2017-05-17 18:26:52,">>125929385 That implies Slovak is an actual language, or that the Carpathians aren't populated by Hungarians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045612 125915293,125930186,2017-05-17 18:26:56,">>125920801 strong post",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045616 125915293,125930194,2017-05-17 18:27:00,">>125929983 >All slavs are brother with russians Oh really you russians have a funny way of showing it to your slavic Polish brothers, off you pop Ivan go conquer some more asians to get warm water.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045620 125915293,125930295,2017-05-17 18:27:36,">>125930045 >>125930194 Do i hear 41 posts by this ID coming?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045656 125915293,125930328,2017-05-17 18:27:47,">>125920873 you forgot the part "" at killing 100 millions and putting billions in poverty """,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045667 125915293,125930369,2017-05-17 18:28:05,">>125930116 >Reading a book about Monarchism Already have autism from this board do not want actual cancer.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045685 125915293,125930457,2017-05-17 18:28:41,">>125930328 anon stop it, he's already dead!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045721 125915293,125930471,2017-05-17 18:28:43,">>125930369 Do i hear 42 post?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045723 125915293,125930499,2017-05-17 18:28:58,>>125921776,,Anonymous,1nmf2q.jpg,w7Gj6rpdUysfngdKRJcgcA==,US,,1495045738 125915293,125930538,2017-05-17 18:29:14,">>125930295 >All slavs are brother with russians I doubt the rolls of fat covering your ear canals could let you hear it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045754 125915293,125930563,2017-05-17 18:29:24,">>125929068 You're fucking illiterate, Abdul. Even Slovenia was comparatively well-off, not just during the war, but after it as well.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495045764 125915293,125930667,2017-05-17 18:30:14,">>125925787 no such thing as ancap just cap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045814 125915293,125930719,2017-05-17 18:30:40,">>125930183 The part between Bratislava and Uzghorod is populated by Slovaks and some Poles.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495045840 125915293,125930725,2017-05-17 18:30:42,">>125930538 we have 42 posts epic troll 420",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045842 125915293,125930734,2017-05-17 18:30:46,">>125930563 >Europe has been utterly destroyed by six years of war >Comparitvely well off Considering Germany was a massive bomb crater near the end that ain't to high a barrier closet-carpathian",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045846 125915293,125930760,2017-05-17 18:31:02,">>125926125 keynes was biggest blight on econmoics and set it back 200 years no wonder your empire gone and muslim rapfugees raping your women",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495045862 125915293,125930795,2017-05-17 18:31:16,">>125929786 >National Socialist How does it feel to still worship the failed ideology and suck the zombie dick of a dead, Austrian one-bollocked, piss fetishist, cousin humping, Europe wrecking, manlet coward who sucked on a ppk like the BBC he craved, rather than face his enemies? >alois schiklgruber Even Hitler wasn't literally hitler",,Anonymous,paul-henry-gay-nazi.jpg,sD8UlcECWNfupdup2gBZAw==,GB,,1495045876 125915293,125930875,2017-05-17 18:31:50,">>125930760 Indeedioly cant we ever recover from this",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495045910 125915293,125930905,2017-05-17 18:32:03,">>125930183 Besides, get your own language. Oh, that's right, ebonics is going to be your official language when you get taken over by the eternal dindu.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495045923 125915293,125930963,2017-05-17 18:32:30,">>125929445 democracy you mean",,Anonymous,1490649142954.png,yzSvBVfrgskFvcVK2KD+bA==,US,,1495045950 125915293,125931050,2017-05-17 18:33:02,">>125930795 >When you cannot actually rebut National-Socialism so you literally use allied wartime propaganda to discredit it Back you go paki, I am sure Islamabad still has more room",,Anonymous,1485383437643.png,4aPeO+/iEliHUrMBtLTuYQ==,GB,,1495045982 125915293,125931117,2017-05-17 18:33:34,">>125930194 Polish its a goddamn screamly pigs in the heart of Europe. They are not slavs, poles are sarmates",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495046014 125915293,125931163,2017-05-17 18:33:50,">>125930186 Thanks for the appreciation, senpai. In a libertarian order, the bones of registered Democrats must be ground up and made into concrete and any Demcucks who aren't genetic failures will be forced to make roads from them.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046030 125915293,125931340,2017-05-17 18:35:04,">>125931117 Ah poor Ivan comes with the rebuttals, really do you think your shithole of a country which breeds with literal mongols, tatars, armenians, azerbaijanis and whatever else you really found out in your siberian wastes is actually slavic no.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046104 125915293,125931342,2017-05-17 18:35:04,">>125930369 youtube vid covers it I thought youd be into it being a brit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495046104 125915293,125931391,2017-05-17 18:35:26,">>125915293 Hello My name is Lolbert McLolbertson and I am a retard with sub 90 IQ. It's just a coincidence that the ideologues of my superior ideology is mostly Jewish.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1495046126 125915293,125931466,2017-05-17 18:36:00,">>125929179 Same name, different languages. Similar people too. They're also a white country, mind you.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046160 125915293,125931497,2017-05-17 18:36:18,">>125931163 sounds good, I'd love to cruse on the corpses of democrats.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495046178 125915293,125931588,2017-05-17 18:37:01,">>125929293 Czech bros are good, but they're not designing flying cars at the moment AFAIK.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046221 125915293,125931628,2017-05-17 18:37:21,">>125931391 >This is the argumentative level of our rivals I think we're on the right track here bois.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495046241 125915293,125931795,2017-05-17 18:38:25,">>125931391 >th-the jews! Not an argument.",,Anonymous,1490994989300.jpg,IadeA3Q0lJzF6sC2HoTavg==,US,,1495046305 125915293,125931807,2017-05-17 18:38:32,">>125929492 Yeah nah, you rely on your wife's son Uncle Sam to do it for you like the little cuck you are.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046312 125915293,125931819,2017-05-17 18:38:38,">>125931050 >Pakistan Fuck off, any brit who shills for nazis is a fucking traitor, and needs shortening by a heads length. All that shit, gellie raubel etc is documented from kraft sources This is how we discredited nazi scum",,Anonymous,1489597209618.webm,Jusqge6T8gHJQm9Dh/5j2A==,GB,,1495046318 125915293,125931901,2017-05-17 18:39:12,">>125931342 Moswley is god >D I R E C T R U L E F R O M L O N D ON >I >R >E >C >T >R >U >L >E >F >R >O >M >L >O >N >D >O >N",,Anonymous,DIRECT RULE.jpg,zngJbQTCyK51Vk9UX5aigA==,GB,,1495046352 125915293,125931945,2017-05-17 18:39:33,">>125931628 Hello They keep asking who will build the roads, then I answer - the people we pay to build roads! They keep asking who will send and keep people to jail - private courts! NEXT QUESTION",,McLolbert,,,NO,,1495046373 125915293,125932008,2017-05-17 18:39:58,">>125930194 Unironically I'd support Russia getting Manchuria to get warm-water ports.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046398 125915293,125932090,2017-05-17 18:40:33,">>125931588 Lord knows they just need to be banging sticks and stones together to be technologically advanced to you hungarian mongrels",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046433 125915293,125932128,2017-05-17 18:40:49,">>125931342 Not sure he is a brit tbqh, sounds more like a butthurt tanned natsoc larper",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046449 125915293,125932256,2017-05-17 18:41:46,">>125931819 >This is how we discredited nazi scum Implying it was not the Americans and the Russians who did it for us, go back abdul go back.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046506 125915293,125932310,2017-05-17 18:42:07,">>125931050 Seeing as your entire career of some 50-odd posts was a shitpost, I'm pretty sure you're a Pajeet. Because you don't shit in the loo or in the street, you shit all over this board.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046527 125915293,125932396,2017-05-17 18:42:46,">>125932008 They tried that boyo, but Japan slapped them, and now China slap them. Truly the Russians are a special people",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046566 125915293,125932422,2017-05-17 18:42:58,">>125931901 Might want to spell his name right, then. Also, Mosley was a patriot above all. The second we declared war he told the buf to join up. Members were among our first casualties",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046578 125915293,125932540,2017-05-17 18:43:53,">>125931391 Libertarians are overwhelmingly white, traditional men (even the fags at LP, kek) with high IQs and high agency. Also goys.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046633 125915293,125932748,2017-05-17 18:45:26,">Implying that I mispelled his name >Implying that I was not misspelling his name after a town in Leicestershire. Mosley can do as he wish, he shall always be a second rate fascist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046726 125915293,125932821,2017-05-17 18:45:59,">>125932090 >hungarian mongrels I'm sure a few thousand people can affect the genetic makeup of a region populated by several million, even after a thousand years.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046759 125915293,125932876,2017-05-17 18:46:26,,,Anonymous,The_Hoppean.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,US,,1495046786 125915293,125932898,2017-05-17 18:46:35,,,Anonymous,The_General.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1495046795 125915293,125932925,2017-05-17 18:46:44,,,Anonymous,The_Revolutionary.png,V1/wvwPgIK9i7A5zk9Wldg==,US,,1495046804 125915293,125932953,2017-05-17 18:46:53,,,Anonymous,The_Reactionary.png,a9mKWWlXab4tPn2c5nqSDQ==,US,,1495046813 125915293,125932962,2017-05-17 18:46:57,">>125932821 >I'm sure a few thousand people can affect the genetic makeup of a region populated by several million, even after a thousand years. >What are the Mongols",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046817 125915293,125932980,2017-05-17 18:47:05,">>125932396 Japan won't do shit now, neither will the U.S., and China's only advantage is its numbers. Russia will give Manchuria the hapa treatment.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046825 125915293,125933158,2017-05-17 18:48:24,">>125932962 The Mongols are significantly more different from the Russians than the Hungarians were from the Slavs. We like to meme about them being gooks, but they were Aryans.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495046904 125915293,125933210,2017-05-17 18:48:46,">>125932980 >China's only advantage is its numbers >And equipment >And Logistic >And Industrial capabilities >And GDP Give it up Carpathian Cuckold your belief in this meme ideology is as baseless as support for the mongrel slavs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046926 125915293,125933351,2017-05-17 18:49:55,">>125933158 >Hungarians were from the Slavs Good think you are caparthian rats mixed with magyar DNA you are no true slavs",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495046995 125915293,125933402,2017-05-17 18:50:19,">>125933210 At least we're white.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495047019 125915293,125933445,2017-05-17 18:50:39,">>125933210 china will get fucked, they have technology but they dont have the oil they need to run it all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495047039 125915293,125933461,2017-05-17 18:50:45,">>125933351 >what is reading comprehension",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495047045 125915293,125933482,2017-05-17 18:50:54,">>125932748 Forgot to link the post this time, didn't you, you utter faggot...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047054 125915293,125933570,2017-05-17 18:51:34,">>125933402 >Slavs >White As stupid an assertion as Anarcho-Capitalism being the ideology of the future",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047094 125915293,125933747,2017-05-17 18:52:46,">>125915293 Lol u guys are lame.",,Anonymous,46E18167-D1A1-45F9-9339-FB73202BE9B6.jpg,pvN2tYZwpryd0yiz/wNu/w==,CA,,1495047166 125915293,125933776,2017-05-17 18:52:59,">>125933570 We're white Indo-Europeans. Keep hating on the last bastion of uncuckedness.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495047179 125915293,125933784,2017-05-17 18:53:01,">125933445 I guarantee you the Russian economy will collapse faster from the fact that the country that buy 95 percent of it natural gasses is at war with it. China could just through conscripts at Putin's panzies until the country just goes into flames",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047181 125915293,125933864,2017-05-17 18:53:31,">>125933747 Thank you for bumping the thread.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495047211 125915293,125933930,2017-05-17 18:53:59,">>125933461 An concept foreign to the magyar slaves from the Carpathians",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047239 125915293,125934009,2017-05-17 18:54:35,">>125933776 Lololol slavs forever living in the shadow of saxony. It's okay my Chernobyl mong, we'll concentrate you like the rest.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495047275 125915293,125934068,2017-05-17 18:55:01,">>125933482 >you utter faggot Oh no I am a faggot how shall I ever recover from this BTFO? Does this mean you'll stone me now Mohammed?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047301 125915293,125934155,2017-05-17 18:55:37,">>125933776 >Indo-Europeans >White hmm",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047337 125915293,125934378,2017-05-17 18:57:15,">>125934068 Salaami camelcum effendi, indeed if I ever meet you, a rock through your swede sounds a most tempting prospect.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047435 125915293,125934451,2017-05-17 18:57:49,signal boosting this thread,,Anonymous,264b6e60b707cb529cf4531c4266d6c1fad3c97bb82f8cd60fffba127760c73b.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,US,,1495047469 125915293,125934581,2017-05-17 18:58:39,">>125934378 I am sure it would be Abdul then I can throw bacon at you and you'll shtivel up hmm?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047519 125915293,125934763,2017-05-17 18:59:59,,,Anonymous,hippity-hoppity-cant-afford-property-16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,GB,,1495047599 125915293,125934823,2017-05-17 19:00:22,">>125934763 LOL",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495047622 125915293,125934967,2017-05-17 19:01:22,">>125934763 Watch Real Housewives of Atlanta",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495047682 125915293,125934995,2017-05-17 19:01:37,">>125934581 Put some hp on it first, son. Maybe launch a few mushrooms as well.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047697 125915293,125935033,2017-05-17 19:01:53,">>125929983 lol when will you delusional russians stop acting like anyone wants to associate with you? no one likes you. get that through your head.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495047713 125915293,125935147,2017-05-17 19:02:46,">>125934995 >Absolutely Haram, Wait till the iman hears about this muhammad",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495047766 125915293,125935703,2017-05-17 19:07:08,"why are ancaps so spooked? they try so hard to remove the state-spook, only to spook themselves with the NAP. Can they not cope with a pirate society?",,Anonymous,1493916271429.gif,jN0z70HrfELvl+9uNS6QCA==,US,,1495048028 125915293,125935913,2017-05-17 19:08:54,,,Anonymous,1491962369354.jpg,yjzScEMUSw00w0hXQruy2g==,US,,1495048134 125915293,125935982,2017-05-17 19:09:24,">>125935703 Im not afraid of ghosts, I can live in a spooked house no probs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495048164 125915293,125936123,2017-05-17 19:10:22,Hey get in here.,,Anonymous,0B8A4805-4150-469D-A033-EFA901827B4A.jpg,Oi6Tr8jpABL8E3HSEnwIGw==,CA,,1495048222 125915293,125936522,2017-05-17 19:13:14,/lrg/,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495048394 125915293,125936651,2017-05-17 19:14:14,,,Anonymous,1494638877715.jpg,s1EHYjcEMUNvYWjyU2YSNw==,CA,,1495048454 125915293,125936773,2017-05-17 19:15:08,,,Anonymous,CzFQX29.jpg,40TiHEGcMnKU3FesLXN7rw==,GB,,1495048508 125915293,125936852,2017-05-17 19:15:42,,,Anonymous,snek (10).png,aXlAl2u5gEzAo6UIS0BxZg==,US,,1495048542 125915293,125936864,2017-05-17 19:15:44,"I've been reading up on democratic confederalism that's being put to use in Rojova by the Kurds and as I understand it, it's basically a libertarian socialist society with decentralized government but it seemed horribly inefficient with all the different work co-ops and what not. Any thoughts on that?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1495048544 125915293,125937327,2017-05-17 19:19:14,">>125936864 Because profit increases efficiency in comparison to coops.",,^~,1488586820209.png,Y9HR09HE7lgTJYrbNsYpyA==,PT,,1495048754 125915293,125937678,2017-05-17 19:21:51,">>125936864 Not come across them but I'll read up, sounds interesting",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495048911 125915293,125938737,2017-05-17 19:30:16,,,Anonymous,tgP3Wxu.jpg,50JI/wLGBGDWlwQvVL/qSQ==,GB,,1495049416 125915293,125938920,2017-05-17 19:31:33,">>125936864 Coops can definitely work fairly efficiently. But it depends on the workers. If your population is like the Swiss (smart with democracy ingrained in culture) then coops can prosper. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migros https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coop_(Switzerland) Migros is Switzerland's largest retail company, its largest supermarket chain and largest employer. It is also one of the forty largest retailers in the world. It is structured in the form of a cooperative society (the Federation of Migros Cooperatives), with more than two million members. It co-founded Turkey's largest retailer, Migros Türk, which became independent of Migros Switzerland in 1975.",,Anonymous,Ron gov.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,SI,,1495049493 125915293,125940823,2017-05-17 19:45:32,"real free market would rock lawyers n teachers n judges n social workers n shrinks GONE pub school GONE medical n house commodified throium atomic safe economical mini reactors monrail run privately",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495050332 125915293,125941544,2017-05-17 19:51:16,I like Rothbard can i post here?,,Anonymous,roth.jpg,+GRioAjTP/s2gBRj43DO8Q==,PL,,1495050676 125915293,125941797,2017-05-17 19:53:15,">>125941544 duh",,Anonymous,1491851652845_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,GB,,1495050795 125915293,125941892,2017-05-17 19:54:00,">>125941544 Of courshe.",,Anonymous,BSS3P.jpg,Pm3WFjoe9sYrAjCMVhDV8g==,PT,,1495050840 125915293,125941966,2017-05-17 19:54:38,">>125941544 Rothbard is my nigga. and an honorary white.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495050878 125915293,125944495,2017-05-17 20:13:24,,,Anonymous,Libertarians and pretenders.jpg,wGLRdZ43oADqBPnaGAAT7g==,SI,,1495052004 125915293,125946003,2017-05-17 20:24:17,">>125944495 Nice, saved",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495052657 125915293,125946324,2017-05-17 20:26:34,"LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL TELEGRAM CHAT FOR LIBERTARIAN DISCUSSION. https://t.me/LibertarianRG",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495052794 126047036,126047036,2017-05-18 13:55:37,"lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. A reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ Pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Hoppe explains time preference and Crusoe economics 101 by based Brent Ancap https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fP8j7JPd7ag",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: HOPPE CRUSOE ECONOMICS Edition,Anonymous,1487039083508.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,PT,,1495115737 126047036,126047663,2017-05-18 14:00:38,">>126047036 First for private militias to guard my opium fields",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495116038 126047036,126048246,2017-05-18 14:05:08,Well?,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-05-18 at 2.03.33 PM.png,nAju5VO4kKJCOtSyl6DMDg==,US,,1495116308 126047036,126048801,2017-05-18 14:09:15,">>126047036 >Paleolibertarianism Is that like libertarianism, but with donkey jaws on sticks instead of AR 15 fully automatic assault RPG's?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495116555 126047036,126049644,2017-05-18 14:15:50,">>126048246 Based Andrew Ryan. I remember when Bioshock came out in 07 and I got it on release day, I had a blast playing that game over the years.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495116950 126047036,126049827,2017-05-18 14:17:22,">>126048801 there were no roads back then maybe that's why libertarians remember the palaeolithic so fondly",,Anonymous,ancap sees captcha.png,x0Ydm1XTZz2an0qO/tai3A==,PT,,1495117042 126047036,126051072,2017-05-18 14:26:59,">>126048801 It's an older term for right libertarianism: conservative values plus a free market ideology, i.e. Paleo & Mean.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495117619 126047036,126051229,2017-05-18 14:28:05,">>126048246 No. t. man in the Vatican",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495117685 126047036,126051414,2017-05-18 14:29:23,">>126051229 I also just realized this joke would've been amazing if I had used a Vatican City proxy. Fuck me.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495117763 126047036,126052270,2017-05-18 14:36:17,">>126051414 You did good anyway Hans. That was a great smash.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495118177 126047036,126053846,2017-05-18 14:47:47,Bump,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495118867 126047036,126055594,2017-05-18 15:01:01,Another bump,,Anonymous,1494414359191.png,A2Sf2d3PuRTCPfHDRBBiRg==,PT,,1495119661 126047036,126056265,2017-05-18 15:05:45,"I just realized something about stormies. I feel dumb for not having noticed earlier but it goes like this: Libertarians are often self-described as ""fiscally conservative and socially liberal"". Stormies are the opposite, they are more often than not ""socially conservative and fiscally leftist"". Think about it, when asked most Neetsocs that complain about the welfare state or ""free"" stuff they do it just because of shitskins benefiting from it. They in fact love these things or at least consider them positive, they just don't want it to benefit racially distinct people. In short, stormfags don't ind having half your wage taken away so it can be given to a loser that hasn't had a job in three years because he's playing videogames all day at home... as long as that loser is white and christian. This is why I find all this ""greatest ally"" bullshit absolutely outrageous. Nazis have absolutely nothing to offer and no points in common other than the fact they hate leftists too, being they not smart enough to realize they're pretty much for everything leftists defend except for a few superficial issues like identity politics. Thoughts on this?",,Anonymous,stormfag idiocy7.png,VaG9Sx+AcHKP4adyVmp/cg==,ES,,1495119945 126047036,126056655,2017-05-18 15:08:23,">>126056265 I think they would just say ""losers"" ought to be punished or executed, their ""philosophy"" is not one of Liberty. They can bitch all they want about culture and society, but economic laws and praxeological axioms still exist.",,Anonymous,1494374271057.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,PT,,1495120103 126047036,126056883,2017-05-18 15:10:03,Wassap my freedom loving Bros.,,Anonymous,IMG_0673.jpg,ZN9/728zOe1N3DV+oMwWhQ==,US,,1495120203 126047036,126057508,2017-05-18 15:14:20,Libertarian is always right,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495120460 126047036,126057567,2017-05-18 15:14:42,">>126056265 Kek its true faggotswe consider free education and healthcare a must in a raciallyy and cultural homogenous society.The fact that it took you this long to realize shows me just how much of dumb faggot you can be....kek. Also in Germany there was no welfare for lazy fucks if you refused to work you would be assigned a work place and be forced to go. Also that leddit spacing.....nice.",,Anonymous,NSG econ 1.png,bbNZQhGK1ZifUR5yT0o8CQ==,RO,,1495120482 126047036,126057733,2017-05-18 15:15:49,">>126056265 Who says were socially liberal? Anyway the point of allying with nationalists is fighting against globalism. Breaking free from the global unions are both of our goals were not gonna be friends forever.",,Anonymous,lrg.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1495120549 126047036,126057800,2017-05-18 15:16:17,">>126057567 Oh it's the same gypsy from every other thread. Shoo shoo gypsy you're driving down the property values of this thread",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495120577 126047036,126058023,2017-05-18 15:17:37,">>126056265 I'm only natsoc because I'm pretty sure that if you try to end your central bank and fight the international finance system from your country they will try to come up with a reason to invade you. natsoc has nothing to do with welfare, it is about gearing up for the inevitable war",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495120657 126047036,126058833,2017-05-18 15:23:17,We can do physical removal too.,,Anonymous,tankiehumannature.png,CLXpclPRDZvgDLB393gylw==,US,,1495120997 126047036,126059213,2017-05-18 15:26:02,">>126057567 What makes you think Gypsies will be allowed in the ethnostate?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495121162 126047036,126059257,2017-05-18 15:26:15,">>126058833 You're the ones being removed my friend.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495121175 126047036,126060382,2017-05-18 15:34:04,">>126047663 cia?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495121644 126047036,126060568,2017-05-18 15:35:37,">>126057567 It's not free, you retard.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495121737 126047036,126060659,2017-05-18 15:36:24,">>126058833 Yeah, removal of my property from my wallet. Legalise ""murdering"" communists nao. Deus vult.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495121784 126047036,126060968,2017-05-18 15:38:26,">>126056265 On the subject of natsoc enonomy, consider this: since they are proponents of the ""white ethnoSTATE"", they have no problem with their citizens (white people) being commited violence against by the state in order to sustain it's existence. If you know a little bit about statist economics of course, you realize that the powers that be don't care about the demographic that is supposed to represent the state. The gov't lives at the expense of their own people, not the other way around, This obviously contradicts with the natsoc stance that white people should determine their own fate and pursue their own happiness. The only way this could maybe work is in the case of a benevolent dictator (muh second Hitler), but also then nothing is forever. His successors may be completely opposed to his ideals, or maybe democracy gets restored because of the incompetence of some autocrat. And we all know democracy and cultural marxism go hand in hand. tl;dr: don't let some corruptable bureaucrat decide over the future of the white race",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495121906 126047036,126061056,2017-05-18 15:39:08,">>126057800 >>126059213 Nice adhominem,also what ethnostate i have my country from which gypsys and any other shitskin needs to be purged,kek.Also not an argument faggs.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495121948 126047036,126063124,2017-05-18 15:54:25,bumping for economic mastery,,Anonymous,14942041009421878000353.jpg,tYoqAav6zWyjgq58UeDy6w==,GB,,1495122865 126047036,126063320,2017-05-18 15:55:53,">>126056265 it wouldnt go down like that in NatSoc, at all. The lazy ass playing videogames could survive maybe, sure.. but he'd be stuck at lowest class. Ideally you have an universal income which is very low, but with which you can survive (barely). Beyond that if you want more $ you need to do something productive. So lazy ass could never afford to have kids and would be wiped from the genetic pool. Workers would be entitled to this universal income plus their earnings.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495122953 126047036,126063616,2017-05-18 15:58:03,">>126063124 That image is a pretty accurate depiction of these threads.",,Anonymous,1492890406010.jpg,b9E/qJEpZhNGawg62bpniA==,PT,,1495123083 126047036,126063661,2017-05-18 15:58:19,">>126063320 Anything UBI is insane, even if it is a ""very low"" one. This can only be proposed by people that do not understand incentives.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495123099 126047036,126063691,2017-05-18 15:58:30,">>126060968 and armed and informed population would ensure no such traitors would ever reach power. A system of tests of aptitude, mental, moral and physical where only the top have a chance of gaining power would be in place.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495123110 126047036,126063824,2017-05-18 15:59:28,">>126063661 people don't just work for money. Look at all the great scientists, they didn't invent to sell, but gave away their knowledge for free.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495123168 126047036,126064128,2017-05-18 16:01:37,">>126056265 >they are more often than not ""socially conservative and fiscally leftist"" >implying that's bad You've already sold your ass to the internationalist jewish wall street. What is there more to discuss? Remember to remove borders and taxes they are worst than the holohoax.",,Anonymous,1488067699160.jpg,1aN9dDQLW/1PZdliHC7k/g==,BG,,1495123297 126047036,126064135,2017-05-18 16:01:41,">>126063124 >invent bullshit mumbojumbo pseudo-religion to reinforce your economic position using lots of insider-terminology and references to stuff only your fellow believers would even understand >engage any opponent with pedantry and definition shifting and proofs derived from nothing but your own camps consensus >exclude anyone who doesnt agree as a valid source capitalists are literally the left.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495123301 126047036,126064183,2017-05-18 16:02:02,">>126063661 you got one extreme, which says ""you don't work, you don't eat"". It comes straight from the Bible and was applied in communism too. The other extreme is ""you can live at the expense of others"", which is cancerous too. A minimum share of your earning to the community is a fair trade. Such community made you the person you are. It wouldn't just pay for lazy asses to play videogames and fap. Such behaviour would be highly encouraged anyway",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495123322 126047036,126064228,2017-05-18 16:02:21,">>126064183 I meant discouraged*",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495123341 126047036,126064698,2017-05-18 16:05:49,">>126056265 To be honest m8, I like palling around with Nazis. I won't help then implement national socialism but they're cool enough to socialize with. I don't wanna be /liberty/ where helicopter discussion is frowned upon and everyone is trying to show how not alt-right they are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495123549 126047036,126064963,2017-05-18 16:07:42,">>126064698 hey, i'm fine with letting you ancaps have your ""corporate zone"" to play with lawlessness and trade with you. Just know that your system can't work with banks and/or usury. Oh and jews.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495123662 126047036,126065365,2017-05-18 16:10:20,"Anyway, Slovakbro reporting in for life, liberty, and the pursuit of violence against political opponents, so to speak. Some interesting shit I've dug up: Augustus Sol Invictus may just be the most interesting guy in the right libertarian sphere. Here's some of his videos. youtube com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE youtube com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI youtube com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI Very recently, Mike Enoch was on the Radical Agenda, so that's something to check out - also some other videos of his: youtube com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w - Mike Enoch youtube com/watch?v=ae_9K26ipZs - Paddy Tarleton youtube com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU - speech by Cantwell at the Pikeville rally Also, check out this dank Jew. Fuckin BASED: rothbard.altervista org/articles/kulturkampf1.pdf - Kulturkampf rothbard.altervista org/articles/race-murray.pdf - Race! That Murray Book Carry on, goys.",,Anonymous,libertypol.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,SK,,1495123820 126047036,126065475,2017-05-18 16:11:00,">>126064963 >Lawlessness Dude, I'm pretty sure you and I discussed in great detail that ancap is not lawlessness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495123860 126047036,126065596,2017-05-18 16:11:48,">>126061056 Then it'll just be ethnic Romanians suffering from retarded economic policies. Real improvement right there.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495123908 126047036,126065694,2017-05-18 16:12:29,">>126063320 >he could never afford kids What about the fact that a natsoc society will pay you to have kids and will lead to a similar situation to today where you have dregs shitting out like 6 kids and living off the government.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495123949 126047036,126065716,2017-05-18 16:12:36,">>126065475 ok good like with your private law enforcers, who will enforce the law of the highest payer, ie the ultra rich",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495123956 126047036,126065854,2017-05-18 16:13:35,"Also, friendly reminder that phisical removal merely means ostracism and social exclusion. Why waste helicopter fuel when you can just leave commies starve to death?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495124015 126047036,126065875,2017-05-18 16:13:42,">>126064128 >international jewish wall street The Jews are going to kvetch so hard when Bitcoin becomes mainstream. You think they have an interest in freeing the raging bull of the economy? They like the restrictions put in place to not let smaller businesses run by gentiles compete with the Jew-owned large corporations.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495124022 126047036,126065890,2017-05-18 16:13:47,">>126065716 Thank you for being so understanding.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495124027 126047036,126066088,2017-05-18 16:15:09,">>126063824 Many of them died old and sad and underappreciated. When people don't value charity, you can't afford to be overly charitable. It sucks, but it is what it is.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495124109 126047036,126066140,2017-05-18 16:15:29,">>126065694 Well initially having kids would be encouraged with interest free loans to stabilize population since whites are in decline. You would never be able to have those many kids living off welfare. The universal income would give workers a chance to climb the economic ladder. There are million of workers stuck at a salary with no saving capacity to invest. With the additional income, smart ones could start business and climb. Nature would put everyone where they belong anyway.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495124129 126047036,126066144,2017-05-18 16:15:31,">>126065365 Hello Slovakbro!",,Anonymous,1494204773494m.jpg,rrjdfCblopbAG7edEPbMYQ==,PT,,1495124131 126047036,126066293,2017-05-18 16:16:35,">>126065716 Is everybody so immoral where you come from? It's not in the enforcers' best interest to be pawns of the elite when the population is armed to the teeth, so this falls even from Ayn Rand or Stirner's perspectives.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495124195 126047036,126066360,2017-05-18 16:16:59,">>126047036 What about IP? Will architects and chip designers starve?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495124219 126047036,126066433,2017-05-18 16:17:27,">>126066088 You hit the issue at the head. This is the core of NatSoc. Such individuals would be highly praised and would be at the upper levels of hierarchy, always. Unlike today where money$$ says where you are in the ladder. The more you work and sacrifice for your nation and countrymen, the more you climb in NatSoc.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495124247 126047036,126066553,2017-05-18 16:18:24,">>126065854 Just to be clear I AM for throwing Marxists from helicopters. If the government threatened to ""seize the means of production"" you'd probably agree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495124304 126047036,126066853,2017-05-18 16:20:29,">>126066293 look, competing coorporations who care only about profit would be the name of the game. Because in your system everything has a price and its all about money. So these corps would probably engage in warfare, cyberwarfare and would hire private armies to destroy each other. Conglomerates would form from the joining of most powerful corps. Conglomerates would fight each other for monopoly. The end result would be the most rich and brutal would rule, and that would be the end of your anarchy. I think you ancaps are either ignorant of history, nature of man, or both.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495124429 126047036,126066939,2017-05-18 16:21:11,">>126063691 who would organize the tests and set the standards?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495124471 126047036,126066943,2017-05-18 16:21:14,"What is your favourite economic myth? Mine is ""Speculation is bad for the economy"". Also known as ""Speculation makes prices rise"". I remember reading Hazlitt's book and I was utterly blown the fuck out when I learnt the truth about how wrong it actually is. That's the feel when you remember/realize how wrong the common sense can often be.",,Anonymous,1494116440359.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,ES,,1495124474 126047036,126067003,2017-05-18 16:21:46,"Can I own a gyrocopter and fly it wherever, whenever and however I like in Ancapistan? I really wanna own a gyrocopter.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1495124506 126047036,126067004,2017-05-18 16:21:47,lol,,Anonymous,ANCAP_logo.png,EOR0DGvLzdYF6dv1fuoukQ==,PL,,1495124507 126047036,126067056,2017-05-18 16:22:10,">>126066144 Great to see you here, Portubro. Thinking of starting my own pastebin for the general, involving stuff that'll appeal more to the race-realist part of /pol/.",,Anonymous,hoppe nsg.png,ZOLbOc1mvepna5lKW5TPMA==,SK,,1495124530 126047036,126067194,2017-05-18 16:23:08,"Property is theft, Aynclaps.",,Anonymous,proudhon.jpg,OKSCpMSC3JlRvYt8HJXy7A==,US,,1495124588 126047036,126067301,2017-05-18 16:23:53,">>126067056 Lovely, I would like that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495124633 126047036,126067332,2017-05-18 16:24:02,">>126047036 >/autism general/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495124642 126047036,126067427,2017-05-18 16:24:44,">>126067194 I get you don't believe in property. How can you steal that which not property?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495124684 126047036,126067498,2017-05-18 16:25:13,">>126066939 The tests would be done taking into account modern scientific knowledge on biology, anthropology, psychology, sociology. Imagine hundreds of trick questions on how would an individual act on a certain scenario, etc. The individuals who tend to act in self interest would be filtered. Also lie detectors. These tests would be up online for anyone to do and everyone could show up to be in position of govt in they pass. The tests would be discussed endlessly by the population and changes suggested. Thats about as democratic as this would go.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495124713 126047036,126067504,2017-05-18 16:25:16,">>126047036 SAGE",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495124716 126047036,126067575,2017-05-18 16:25:45,">>126067194 >Property is theft, Aynclaps. Than go open your own coffee shop and quit being a wagecuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495124745 126047036,126067609,2017-05-18 16:25:59,">>126067194 fuck off commie",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495124759 126047036,126067637,2017-05-18 16:26:11,">>126067004 Crashing this government.",,Anonymous,Snek Bane.jpg,zLuAqDHsV9+RpgWxnUA/Sw==,SI,,1495124771 126047036,126067964,2017-05-18 16:28:29,">>126066433 Any society that does not value its contributors is doomed to fail and rightfully so. Any government intervention against this fact is an act of blasphemy and is unrighteous. You don't have a right to force degenerates not to be degenerate, they deserve what's coming for them, it's God's will. I'm not saying they shouldn't be charitable if they wish, I'm saying they shouldn't do things for free if they don't want to. Their role is contribution to society and such actions don't come cheap, even from the most refined individuals. I'd provide hospitality to any countryman who helped advance our great nation. It would be an honor to me to house a great man. However, this makes me a good man too. Men who aren't willing to do it voluntarily should not be granted the same privilege, because they don't deserve it. They'd be dishonest, and it's all because of the government that forced them to perform a service they would have expected monetary payment for. National Socialism is unjust and unfair to its own citizens whom it claims to represent, better and protect, yet it does the precise opposite.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495124909 126047036,126067973,2017-05-18 16:28:33,">>126067498 again, the people who set the criteria are equally corruptable as the autocrats they're supposed to prevent",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495124913 126047036,126068044,2017-05-18 16:29:00,">>126067194 >Property is theft >Theft is stealing property >But property doesn't exist >We should steal property which is stealing in itself but also not call it stealing because property is theft. >PS: We're the good guys, praise Marx.",,Anonymous,Labor Theory of Value.jpg,ACHSYkWNfIxU1jWwGRaunw==,ES,,1495124940 126047036,126068118,2017-05-18 16:29:23,">>126067498 >The individuals who tend to act in self interest would be filtered. So everyone gets filtered?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495124963 126047036,126068136,2017-05-18 16:29:31,">>126066553 Oh yes, assertive commies all get the heli treatment (unless they happen to be in good health and of good stock, in which case their organs and gametes shall be harvested).",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495124971 126047036,126068398,2017-05-18 16:31:24,">>126067964 i dont think you understand natsoc. You think there were thousands living off welfare scratching their balls in NS Germany? The 3rd reich had the biggest employement program ever done by any country. Literally everyone was working",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495125084 126047036,126068429,2017-05-18 16:31:37,">>126068136 Slovakia, you really know how to party.",,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1495125097 126047036,126068581,2017-05-18 16:32:38,">>126066943 whats the argument",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495125158 126047036,126068669,2017-05-18 16:33:13,">>126068398 >Literally everyone was working So was everyone in the USSR. Doesn't mean shit when you're taking from the productive to pay for a bunch of useless government workers.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495125193 126047036,126068727,2017-05-18 16:33:42,,,Anonymous,What property actually is.jpg,V6OGLeJ3WICN0UzLar1q3g==,IE,,1495125222 126047036,126068740,2017-05-18 16:33:48,">>126068118 it would be in their self interest to not act in self interest in order to be in a highly respectable position. People care more about prestige and social validation than moneyz. It just so happens that money is that which gives you prestige in capitalist societies. Whereas in natsoc a scientist who worked his ass and gave his patents to the state for mass production of something useful would enjoy more prestige than the rich industrialist who just runs a business for the well being of his family.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495125228 126047036,126068753,2017-05-18 16:33:55,,,Anonymous,1494619290334.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,SE,,1495125235 126047036,126068833,2017-05-18 16:34:31,">>126068669 This, socialism in all forms is disgenic. Stop subsidizing bad work ethic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495125271 126047036,126068898,2017-05-18 16:34:57,">>126066853 The heads of the corporations are too few. Why should a man fight for their money whan he can fight for himself and all that is his, including his people? I know for a fact that I would prefer my own over somebody else's own, and I value freedom above all else. With how laughably easy it is to sabotage the government, if there was economic incentive to engage in endless warfare DIRECTLY (of course, arms companies are delighted to sell their goods as long as the war goes on far away from them), people would already be doing it. In Mexico, it is the case with the cartels, and it used to be the case with the Mafia syndicates as well. Conglomerates are fractured and they still rely on the blood and sweat of men who are better than them. That's bound to fail, as good men only follow their superiors, and there aren't many superiors to a man hardened by war and swatted around by the free hand of the market, having to put actual effort (both physical and mental) to feed his family and folk. These superiors don't hire mercenaries to create chaos, either. You're talking out of your ass and describing government while supposedly talking about corporations.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495125297 126047036,126069006,2017-05-18 16:35:38,">>126068669 When NatSoc is fully applied the govt isn't funded with taxpayer money. There are no taxes. The govt prints more money to pay its workers. Its a fiat system under a public owned central bank. Same with infrastructure, hospitals, schools, illumination, etc. It wouldnt be paid with taxes but money would be printed for these buildings and to pay workers etc. The materials would be bought from private business.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495125338 126047036,126069053,2017-05-18 16:35:55,">>126051414 Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495125355 126047036,126069097,2017-05-18 16:36:11,">>126067003 As long as the property owners don't mind you flying over their property, you should be good. I'd get a walkie-talkie, though.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495125371 126047036,126069225,2017-05-18 16:37:16,">All these Ancap memes >libertarian general Libertarians are not AnCaps. Libertarians believe in government",,Anonymous,pepe_Frog_1.png,ayXmfNFAyGlxdGfcPdta+A==,US,,1495125436 126047036,126069332,2017-05-18 16:38:13,">>126068740 >it would be in their self interest to not act in self interest in order to be in a highly respectable position. You are aware that's exactly what scummy politicians do today, right? So all you're doing is making sure only the scummiest among them make it. >Whereas in natsoc a scientist who worked his ass and gave his patents to the state for mass production of something useful would enjoy more prestige than the rich industrialist who just runs a business for the well being of his family. Oh great he'll get a nice medal. How wonderful. If I remember right Kalashnikov didn't get shit for his contributions. But that's the state for ya.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495125493 126047036,126069340,2017-05-18 16:38:17,">>126068833 >socialism in all forms is disgenic surely not ALL forms, or are you anti-family?",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495125497 126047036,126069352,2017-05-18 16:38:22,">>126066360 Anyone?...",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495125502 126047036,126069486,2017-05-18 16:39:24,,,Anonymous,CwBOwI_WcAAFYlV.jpg,9ZUQp7Px7O99lTvVE61e0A==,IE,,1495125564 126047036,126069606,2017-05-18 16:40:17,">>126069006 >The govt prints more money to pay its workers. Enjoy your hyperinflation then. >Same with infrastructure, hospitals, schools, illumination, etc. It wouldnt be paid with taxes but money would be printed for these buildings and to pay workers etc. Jesus christ that's so retarded. Are you the same idiot from the other day that thought national debt comes from central banks?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495125617 126047036,126069672,2017-05-18 16:40:51,">>126057733 what the fuck does that say??? my dyslexia is fucking up my eyes with that lettering",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495125651 126047036,126069694,2017-05-18 16:41:00,">>126069340 I'm not anti family but it's clear if you give your kids everything they turn into spoiled brats. In this case socialism has made the family structure worse.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495125660 126047036,126069735,2017-05-18 16:41:22,">>126068429 Thanks, lad. Here - a photo of a proud Slovak man BTFOing /leftypol/ in 1968.",,Anonymous,this chest kills communists.jpg,DlxzleDoWCvs7y2Kg4FKZw==,SK,,1495125682 126047036,126069739,2017-05-18 16:41:25,">>126069006 ""The Cultural Consequences of Fiat Money"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAN5CKbZnD0",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495125685 126047036,126069741,2017-05-18 16:41:27,">>126069225 Cucked ones do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495125687 126047036,126069769,2017-05-18 16:41:36,">Pro-Open Borders >Pro-Splintered Easily Conquerable Society >Anti-Nativist I really fail to see a single attractive thing about Libertarianism in practice. It's beady-eyed Anglo on steroids with a hefty dose of judaism mixed in. The biggest thing you've got going for is shit Classic Liberal-Conservatives already give lip service to, bodily autonomy and ever lower taxes.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495125696 126047036,126069801,2017-05-18 16:41:47,">>126068898 lol private mercenaries are nothing new and they would be common thing in your ancap hellhole. With your little to no sense of community because you have no representation, you would be like little tribes spread all over the land each running a different business and trading over a huge and complex market. Cartels are a good example of how business would run in your ancap. Since there is nothing to enforce legality or illegality, everything would be treated like its cocaine, or like its apples, doesn't matter. End result, just like nature, the strong and smart would end up ruling, through wealth, but without moral guidelines. No morality. Thus it would be hell. The rulers need to be of good morals. Morals would be against maximum profit in your ultra capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495125707 126047036,126069807,2017-05-18 16:41:50,">>126068581 You mean about why it's wrong? Speculation is actually beneficial to the economy, as counter-intuitive as it sounds. Speculation is buying when prices are low and selling when they're high without altering the product, it's just a temporary change of ownership. Then why would it be good? Well, when you buy something you increase the demand for something, making its price go up, and this would in theory be wrong, wouldn't it? The problem is we're only getting half of the picture here. The speculator later sells the product when prices are higher, increasing offer, which makes prices go down when they got high. In short, the speculator makes the price of something increase when it's too low and decrease when it's too high, stabilizing its price. The speculator is the reason the poor person can buy bread at the same price in January, June and December; despite the fact that wheat is only harvested in one or two months of the year. Thanks to speculators people who produce seasonal stuff (crops and as such) can sell at a price higher then they would, and the consumer can buy at the same price all the year. Speculation stabilizes prices, he reduces volatility in prices.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495125710 126047036,126069828,2017-05-18 16:41:58,">>126069694 the family structure IS socialism",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495125718 126047036,126069832,2017-05-18 16:42:01,">>126069672 /pol/ politically incorrect.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495125721 126047036,126069856,2017-05-18 16:42:11,,,Anonymous,15895395_10154920172787264_4451525644886148969_n.jpg,bovMfAlP/WcW8kazCpeOYg==,IE,,1495125731 126047036,126069962,2017-05-18 16:43:02,">>126069225 Then by all means, come join us and debate us on the supposed functions of government. Really - if you're not taking my money and your sole purpose is protecting the human rights as defined by Locke, a small government is fine in my book.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495125782 126047036,126069978,2017-05-18 16:43:08,">>126069225 Ancap is libertarianism in it's purest form",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495125788 126047036,126070018,2017-05-18 16:43:25,">>126069769 >Open borders Open borders is an assault on private property. Only faggots believe in open borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495125805 126047036,126070091,2017-05-18 16:44:01,">>126069739 Private Fiat debt money system of Europe and USA (fractional reserve banking) is NOT debt free, State run fiat money system ok, Belgie? http://truthforgermans.com/wp-content/uploads/Gottfried-Feder-The-Manifesto-of-Breaking-the-Thraldom-of-Interest.pdf",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495125841 126047036,126070155,2017-05-18 16:44:35,">>126069807 wow what a load of bull. speculating is not a market of perfect knowledge or perfect competition. in other words, its not a free market",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495125875 126047036,126070159,2017-05-18 16:44:37,">>126068398 The ones who don't want to work and are instead forced to should not work. Because they as persons are bad for society, their mindset is rotten and their ethical system is upside down.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495125877 126047036,126070180,2017-05-18 16:44:46,">>126070018 >Only faggots believe in open borders. Which happens to include a majority of the supposed ""Libertarian"" movement. The Leftardism has become increasingly prevalent in recent years (see: Gary Johnson et al) but it was by no means a small group prior to it.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495125886 126047036,126070344,2017-05-18 16:46:03,">>126069801 >Thus it would be hell Well it would be more or less feudalism. The question is: is feudalism bad?",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495125963 126047036,126070352,2017-05-18 16:46:05,">>126069828 No, it's not. Socialism prioritises state indoctrination of children from an early age - this is basic-level redpill, go back to plebbit or read 1984 and Brave New World.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495125965 126047036,126070420,2017-05-18 16:46:35,">>126070155 Nobody ever claimed things as ""perfect knowledge or competition"". It doesn't disprove anything though.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495125995 126047036,126070444,2017-05-18 16:46:44,">>126069978 Ancapism is literal academic deadwood. It ended with Hoppe. It's finished.",,Anonymous,17388990_10155188064857264_3554594324893539697_o.jpg,QIUlHrnl9XullFQGYSXmPg==,IE,,1495126004 126047036,126070506,2017-05-18 16:47:15,">>126065854 I don't think commies need any outside help for starving to death",,Anonymous,pinojetishygddt.jpg,fBxlH8inRi2vfVt9MDOZFg==,DE,,1495126035 126047036,126070557,2017-05-18 16:47:37,">>126069606 no interest, no inflation",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495126057 126047036,126070566,2017-05-18 16:47:40,">>126069828 No not really. The family is very hierarchal. And is my personal investment. How you guys could equate talking care of your family as anything other than one's own biological self interest is retarded. My kids are gonna have to do chores for their pay. And they better get a fucking job and leave the house before mom is to old to fuck. Family is an investment, not socialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495126060 126047036,126070604,2017-05-18 16:47:55,">>126070352 >Socialism prioritises state indoctrination of children not a necessary requirement, but in any case children are always indoctrinated to some degree about social and cultural norms because , well, theyre kids",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495126075 126047036,126070638,2017-05-18 16:48:10,">>126070180 So? We're not those fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495126090 126047036,126070673,2017-05-18 16:48:23,"Question for all ancaps: Imagine I am the only one owning a certain ressource that is needed by other people. What stops me from charging ridiculous prices and exploiting my position to my hearts content?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495126103 126047036,126070684,2017-05-18 16:48:27,">>126070344 maybe not for medieval ages, but we're in 21st century now, ok my asian friend?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495126107 126047036,126070863,2017-05-18 16:50:01,">>126069225 but the conclusion of libertarianism is philosophical anarchism, which is the belief that government authority is invalid. Thus, the only reason the government should exist is if anarchy doesn't work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495126201 126047036,126070882,2017-05-18 16:50:10,">>126070557 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation Holy fuck. Remove yourself. How does it make sense to you that if you double the amount of money in circulation that prices stay the same? That would only happen if the GDP doubles as well.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495126210 126047036,126070946,2017-05-18 16:50:42,"how was Hitler able to bring his country from depression to prosperity to the awe of the other nations? Without gold ! No gold is needed for functioning economy. If it wasn't for War, the NatSoc economy works.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495126242 126047036,126071030,2017-05-18 16:51:14,">>126070684 you have arguments or just >its 2017",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495126274 126047036,126071150,2017-05-18 16:52:05,">>126070882 Thats the thing. the GDP grows in proportion to money issued. Thus no inflation Only possible in central planned economy. Key word: PLAN Private business just goes and flows where the most profit is. There is no plan.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495126325 126047036,126071154,2017-05-18 16:52:09,">>126070946 I agree, fiat can work if the minter is responsible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495126329 126047036,126071189,2017-05-18 16:52:21,">>126070506 KEK",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495126341 126047036,126071280,2017-05-18 16:53:14,">>126063616 Duterte is like president /pol/. He's anarchic and chaotic, yet authoritarian. He actually helicopters people (drug dealers), and goes off about globalist conspiracies and jews.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495126394 126047036,126071290,2017-05-18 16:53:19,">>126071150 There is a plan. It's just decentralized. More than 1 furher makes the decisions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495126399 126047036,126071352,2017-05-18 16:53:46,">>126070566 is your wife or siblings your personal investment as well? no? is your old father who is too old to work? >as anything other than one's own biological self interest ones own biological interest would be the entire family",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495126426 126047036,126071395,2017-05-18 16:54:06,">>126070091 good luck giving a select group of people the power of printing....whetever fucking amount of money they want straks ga je nog geloven dat je blank bent ook!",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495126446 126047036,126071416,2017-05-18 16:54:14,">>126065365 Rothbard, Mises and Ayn Rand are some of the few Jews I actually respect. It's a shame that the modern ""right wing Jew"" is a degenerate like Milo Yiannopolous.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1495126454 126047036,126071423,2017-05-18 16:54:17,Brazil can into libertarianism,,Anonymous,don't tread on me br version.jpg,kEWWCFMiTU7qRZdOffdapA==,BR,,1495126457 126047036,126071428,2017-05-18 16:54:19,">>126071150 Imagine the AMOUNT of useless resources being spent on useless shit because of created needs through media and advertisement. Resources which could be spent in actual useful things for society and whites as a whole. Thats the result of your capitalism and not planning your economy. Stuff that lasts half year on purpose so you buy more. Endless waste.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495126459 126047036,126071446,2017-05-18 16:54:28,">>126070673 The cold, hard reality of getting lynched in the street. The NAP won't save you, and nobody will mourn you. Land and all of its resources are not private property. You only own what you extract from it, you don't own what's in the ground.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495126468 126047036,126071492,2017-05-18 16:54:57,">>126071150 >Thus no inflation >Only possible in central planned economy. Go read Road to Serfdom or something. I'm done discussing this non-sense.",,Anonymous,Venezuela changing money.jpg,zhypGTOhV+vsSL04I49FDA==,SI,,1495126497 126047036,126071572,2017-05-18 16:55:28,">>126071395 Only that which the Nation demands, for the advancement of our People.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495126528 126047036,126071605,2017-05-18 16:55:45,">>126064183 The rule is: you must work for your bread. Charity wisely suspends the rule in certain situations. Welfare makes a new rule: others must work for my bread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495126545 126047036,126071606,2017-05-18 16:55:45,">>126070420 it must be necessarily free market in order to achieve a free market derived outcome brp",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495126545 126047036,126071720,2017-05-18 16:56:42,"what is stopping me from becoming a successful entrepreneur, then forming a secret society in your Libertarian country, and using subtle propaganda techniques to sway the masses and rule you through a tyranny of the majority which I actually control?",,Anonymous,1491352671315.jpg,0jZ4unAf8isLlvixU0gcmA==,US,,1495126602 126047036,126071732,2017-05-18 16:56:46,">>126071492 Yeah, you keep being so bipolar in your thinking. Post war economics have taken over most minds. NatSoc =\= Venezuela",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495126606 126047036,126071789,2017-05-18 16:57:07,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495126627 126047036,126071805,2017-05-18 16:57:12,">>126066943 Minimum wage helps the poor or the ""greed"" of Capitalism. Also Hazlitt's fallacies on politicians only seeing one side of the coin and not looking at the effects a policy will have on multiple people. >>126067056 Go for it my man. You got J.P. Rushton, Charles Murray, Nicholas Wade and Michael Levin as good sources. Oh and Edward C. Banfield and his ""The Unheavenly City.""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495126632 126047036,126071812,2017-05-18 16:57:18,">>126066360 intellectual property?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495126638 126047036,126071841,2017-05-18 16:57:33,">>126071352 Yes, I want to further my genetics. Me ""gifting"" resources to people I care about is not socialism. It is my interest not to abandon my elders. Does that trigger you? You need some Rand in your life. Selfishness can seem selfless.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495126653 126047036,126071861,2017-05-18 16:57:40,">>126070946 >>126071154 You rely an awful lot on people over scarcity. Not saying it's impossible for fiat to work, but it requires responsibility after responsibility after responsibility in the people in charge. Spice things up with an open currency system and you won't stay in business if your currency is unfavourable.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495126660 126047036,126071950,2017-05-18 16:58:20,>>126071423,,Anonymous,Snek AnacondAAA.webm,0OwPz8l16hZ0eMck7kOhMA==,SI,,1495126700 126047036,126071958,2017-05-18 16:58:23,">>126071861 Exactly, decentralized banking best banking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495126703 126047036,126072008,2017-05-18 16:58:48,">>126071416 Yeah, it's sad. He even has the nerve to call himself a ""cultural libertarian"" - that's a contradiction in terms. Us libertarians are the real racists, DR3 is a meme.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495126728 126047036,126072118,2017-05-18 16:59:34,">>126071280 He's the official Presidente of the Vandal Nationalist movement, I'll give you that much.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495126774 126047036,126072121,2017-05-18 16:59:36,">>126071605 It is prefered to do away with brainless, mechanic work which puts the mind of men in a material chain of suffering. The purpose of life used to be spiritual discovery, not work your ass off then live off pension. Other areas can progress when people have free time to think, meditate, and just generally not be stressed. Still, most would earn their bread in NatSoc, not live off welfare.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495126776 126047036,126072149,2017-05-18 16:59:48,">>126071812 Yes",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495126788 126047036,126072182,2017-05-18 17:00:01,">>126071446 That is what I am thinking. In reality you will get killed like all the kings and emperors who thought they could push their people as far as they want without any backlash because the law is on their side. But starving people don´t care for the law. But a system that has no way of preventing such a situation from happening is inherently flawed imo. This seems to me like one of the arguments why ancapsism would never work. Such a scenario would crash it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495126801 126047036,126072195,2017-05-18 17:00:07,">>126069769 Go to Rothbard's Wikipedia page and take a look at just how anti-nativist and ""progressive"" he was kek",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495126807 126047036,126072199,2017-05-18 17:00:08,">>126071841 so youre agreeing with me when i say the family unit is socialist in nature just because you dont like socialism as a state function doesnt mean socialism at the familial or tribal level isnt good, or natural",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495126808 126047036,126072243,2017-05-18 17:00:35,">>126071950 holy shit",,Anonymous,fe7a4e277cae61e7e30656621e53a9765381849aec4174f58e29a36f6c1710ea.jpg,zvtMQt+f80z3hpmw8eEtOw==,FR,,1495126835 126047036,126072329,2017-05-18 17:01:13,">>126071150 Private business follows profits because profits mean that people favour you and your products. The best way to ""plan"" an economy is to follow the market, and since the planners gotta eat, it's already more costly than laissez-faire. Besides, planning is for commies. Are you a commie?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495126873 126047036,126072353,2017-05-18 17:01:29,">>126047036 Join Anticommunist Action. https://jamesconey.wixsite.com/rightwingpatchsquad/join-anticom",,Anonymous,socialistindisguise.jpg,FVtZ+zmkydpmH+hV5Du6dQ==,US,,1495126889 126047036,126072394,2017-05-18 17:01:44,">>126071572 you need some Mises in your life",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495126904 126047036,126072513,2017-05-18 17:02:30,">>126071428 Shit isn't useless if people are buying it. Not everybody wants their work to define them, thus consumer goods. Though I do agree that a return to traditional values is a good step towards a more sustainable liberty.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495126950 126047036,126072526,2017-05-18 17:02:35,,,Anonymous,1492381714563.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1495126955 126047036,126072582,2017-05-18 17:03:03,"Fuck Communism. Fuck Capitalism. Fuck Anarchy. Heil Hitler",,Anonymous,1494413910117.jpg,oXJ+9jcI/fLk3k/FhN0sTg==,AR,,1495126983 126047036,126072683,2017-05-18 17:03:52,">>126072199 I don't agree that caring for others, and even giving them resources is socialism. I'm not getting payed back right away so it might seem Socialistic, but the truth is that I expect a return for my investment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127032 126047036,126072691,2017-05-18 17:03:57,">>126070557 Interest is a lender's reward for having a lower time preference than the person he lends to. He's forfeiting his money for risk and uncertainty, and so asks for a premium. Nothing wrong with it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495127037 126047036,126072706,2017-05-18 17:04:04,">>126072582 you can tell a brainlet a mile away like yourself when they still fall for their own side's propaganda",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127044 126047036,126072716,2017-05-18 17:04:08,">>126071720 Your lack of Jewish genes, my dear goy friend. c|:^)*",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495127048 126047036,126072784,2017-05-18 17:04:39,">>126072582 NutSac is just the slightly less cancerous version of communism",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495127079 126047036,126072809,2017-05-18 17:04:53,">>126072716 >only Jews do this google Secret Societies. They exist everywhere",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127093 126047036,126072817,2017-05-18 17:04:57,">>126070673 No one will buy from you and everyone will hate you. Also good luck controlling an entire stock worth of resources. Give us realistic arguments instead of ""what if I own all of X?""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495127097 126047036,126072834,2017-05-18 17:05:03,">>126072582 >social programs >nationalisation of corporations >>>/leftypol/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495127103 126047036,126072872,2017-05-18 17:05:20,">>126071789 That Guy T is like the DANK black guy in a Trump hat, but multiplied by 1488 and fueled by Yakub's magic. Wouldn't be surprised if he outright joined the Hoteps.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495127120 126047036,126072888,2017-05-18 17:05:25,">>126072706 >lolbertarian calling anyone a brainlet lmao",,Anonymous,smug.png,2XZdgLbEPbaaJdGjo9hAIA==,US,,1495127125 126047036,126072897,2017-05-18 17:05:30,">>126056265 Maybe, but at least Neetsocs want white people (my family) to exitst... Socially liberal is cucked anyway.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1494402613895.jpg,5v6LQdvkfaBERrNn6WMzSA==,CA,,1495127130 126047036,126072899,2017-05-18 17:05:31,You guys are such cucks,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127131 126047036,126072937,2017-05-18 17:05:50,">>126071805 Been itching to read Banville's book since I heard of it in Hoppe's Democracy: tGtF >>126072121 I think that's all true but any system but AnCap would be more wasteful and lead to less leisure time overall",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127150 126047036,126072948,2017-05-18 17:05:54,">>126072683 >I'm not getting payed back right away so it might seem Socialistic, but the truth is that I expect a return for my investment. if it isnt a monetary return, its socialist",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495127154 126047036,126073037,2017-05-18 17:06:32,What are you libcucks view on race,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127192 126047036,126073038,2017-05-18 17:06:33,">>126071958 can't have usury if the goyim will outprice the jews >le smug negro tapping his forehead",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495127193 126047036,126073084,2017-05-18 17:06:54,">>126072691 All good if he earned the money he's lending. Hint: modern banking creates money, doesn't just ""lend"".",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495127214 126047036,126073086,2017-05-18 17:06:56,">>126072582 >nationalisation of corporations how's Venezuela goin?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495127216 126047036,126073091,2017-05-18 17:06:59,post pic with a weapon - speaks about peace ... kebap is that you ?,,fuck you goyim,,,FR,,1495127219 126047036,126073117,2017-05-18 17:07:09,">tfw went on reddshit's libertarian board and got reminded why Libertarians are mostly scum >ethnic nations are badwrongfun and evil™ >laughing about ethnic replacement as if they were a CNN employee >whining about Trump and ""structural racism""",,Anonymous,buy my mixtape.png,7IfMjOMZOxCWWGjQz7EUcA==,SE,,1495127229 126047036,126073155,2017-05-18 17:07:30,">>126072353 Will do, if you're ever operating in my neck of the woods I'd help you bash commies. Also thanks for using my artwork, I love seeing people with stickers on their riot gear.",,Anonymous,Flag.png,PA3WeOIMrjW+UQNaIVkveA==,US,,1495127250 126047036,126073167,2017-05-18 17:07:35,,,Anonymous,18402847_1535514036500243_2416543902985092370_n.jpg,4IuJdpESo54eUZ7XWjM+Ww==,IE,,1495127255 126047036,126073210,2017-05-18 17:07:52,">>126072182 No way of preventing? Like I said, you'd be killed. Ultimately, Stirner is right about the universal inner workings of humanity. I know it's mean, but it is what it is.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495127272 126047036,126073243,2017-05-18 17:08:14,">>126073117 the ancap and physical removal leddits are ok the libertarian leddit is left-libertarian cancer though",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495127294 126047036,126073305,2017-05-18 17:08:46,">>126072937 ancap would be the most wasteful since there would be no regulation of what products are put in the market. A simple trending could spike mass production of a useless crap, and days after when the fad is passed they're stuck with tons of unsellable, worthless junk.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495127326 126047036,126073386,2017-05-18 17:09:24,">>126072937 Me too that's why I mentioned it. Maybe The Quest for Community by Robert Nisbet or one of the several other books he mentions are also of our interest. For example Kingship and Law in the middle ages by Fritz Kern pretty much expands on the whole social contract between monarchs and the citizens. And then you have J.C. Fuller's book on monarchical wars vs. democratic wars, and Michael Howard's book, which I have and is quite good.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495127364 126047036,126073407,2017-05-18 17:09:29,">>126073037 we're race realists.",,Anonymous,1491690754786.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1495127369 126047036,126073497,2017-05-18 17:10:10,">>126072353 Hey can I have a link to your discord I was there when it was first starting up just took a small vacation. I gave my idea for Wisconsin ANTICOM patch",,Anonymous,WisconsinAC.png large.png,xvtS9TCJ+ZmiyLlYPzHdcA==,US,,1495127410 126047036,126073512,2017-05-18 17:10:16,">>126073084 I agree. I want a 100% gold reserve or similar commodity displacing fractional (((reserve banking))) which is fraud.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495127416 126047036,126073571,2017-05-18 17:10:43,">>126072149 well intellectual property as it is nowadays is totally arbitrary and it ruins competition, so stuff like patents probably wouldn't exist in a libertarian society. That said nothing would stop a company to get people to sign non disclosure agreements before working with them and counterfeit goods would be prohibited too.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495127443 126047036,126073572,2017-05-18 17:10:44,">>126072948 I suggest you read some Austrian Economics. You take actions because you expect to be satisfied after those actions. That is capitalism, that is anarchy.",,Anonymous,1489244678938.jpg,T2u2ye2cHduqpbGKxXYKOA==,US,,1495127444 126047036,126073614,2017-05-18 17:11:01,">>126072817 They will if they have no choice. And I don´t have to own all of a certain ressource, it´s enough that it would be even more expensive to acquire otherwise. Imagine I own the only well on a tiny poor island or something. It is not about one specific scenario though. There are finite ressources and if for some reason there is no way for sufficient competition to take place your entire system will implode.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495127461 126047036,126073629,2017-05-18 17:11:10,"bump fuck nazis, commies, and liberals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127470 126047036,126073763,2017-05-18 17:12:09,">>126073037 Race doesn't exist, there is only one race; the white race. The rest are property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127529 126047036,126073841,2017-05-18 17:12:41,"In this both capitalism and communism agree: your life is to work your ass, earn your money, invest it if you're smart, and leave a good legacy. Only in communism the state would keep your legacy. This is known as materialism. NatSoc purpose is to free man from this mindset, and aim for higher spiritual values.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495127561 126047036,126073870,2017-05-18 17:12:54,"Question for the Anarcho-Capitalists here: Assuming the theoretical Marxist society was achieved (that is, a Stateless, classless society where the workers own the means of production in a post-scarcity economy) would you fight it or embrace it since the State is now gone? >Note that in Marxist theory, 'private property' is defined as any institution owned by a boss used to accrue capital (e.g. a factory, a coffee shop, a supermarket), not just anything you own",,Anonymous,Marxism.jpg,jsTymyh8DhOXtPlB1nqH8w==,IE,,1495127574 126047036,126073967,2017-05-18 17:13:46,">>126073763 go back to your nazi threads fucktard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127626 126047036,126073993,2017-05-18 17:13:57,">>126073572 Bullshit. Even socialists believe their actions have some kind of net social benefit. If it isnt monetary, its socialist",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495127637 126047036,126074027,2017-05-18 17:14:14,">>126073512 Problem is (((they))) have always controlled gold. I'ts their religion and they rejoiced when they could make it the default economy. I bet they're salivating over the thought of returning to gold standard, butthey do like this fractional banking too.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495127654 126047036,126074208,2017-05-18 17:15:36,,,Anonymous,0d8.png,mNKL1dNaTJ3JcUJcvwpWRQ==,AR,,1495127736 126047036,126074224,2017-05-18 17:15:44,">>126073614 It is precisely because resources are scarce that they must be privately owned. It's the only way humans can rationally and efficiently allocate them. Read up Mises's critiques on the Socialist Calculation Problem, he had already BTFOed commies in the 1920s, and the ""intellectuals"" conceded the defeat. What you're describing is an irrational and inefficient way of managing resources under, I presume, an AnCap social order, but having a statist or socialist (whether nationalist or internationalist) social order would institutionalize your theoretical lifeboat scenario into a mundane reality regarding every scarce good.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495127744 126047036,126074347,2017-05-18 17:16:45,">>126072582 >equal rights Lemme guess, people who don't own property/haven't served in the military get a vote? Fucking blasphemy and suicide is all that is. Also, >Personal enrichment from war should be a crime. The state should confiscate all war profits, so they can be used for the good of the people. So soldiers who've risked life and limb and the people who paid them don't have more of a right to the spoils of war than those who sat home? Good motivation, dude. I'm sure that'll be very popular.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495127805 126047036,126074385,2017-05-18 17:17:00,">>126073614 >Imagine I own the only well on a tiny poor island or something. Why wouldn't that community just form a mutual organization? Also http://www.iadb.org/res/publications/pubfiles/pubS-233.pdf >Using the variation in ownership of water provision across time and space generated by the privatization process, we find that child mortality fell 5 to 7 percent in areas that privatized their water services overall; and that the effect was largest (24 percent) in the poorest areas.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495127820 126047036,126074455,2017-05-18 17:17:30,">>126072809 Alright, Schlomo Herschelstein-Blattberg.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495127850 126047036,126074463,2017-05-18 17:17:33,">>126073210 By that standard every system in the world would be capable to prevent deasaster. Communist dictators also need to be careful not to get lynched. But as history teaches us men in power will abuse it until they come crashing down. If your system can only solve its problems by collapsing and through violent revolution it is not a very good one. And by that point you also have given up on all principles of ancapism. Because in your theory the consumer would just have to accept it and maybe even die without acting against you in a manner that violates the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495127853 126047036,126074491,2017-05-18 17:17:51,">>126073407 >what pol thinks we are a bunch of gentiles >what we actually are a bunch of jews ok, got it",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495127871 126047036,126074602,2017-05-18 17:18:41,">>126073210 >>126073386 >>126073407 Hey dudes, care to throw in your 2 cents on this >>126066360",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495127921 126047036,126074629,2017-05-18 17:18:56,">>126073993 That's because socialism is unnatural. Capitalism is human nature. Even literal communists would be upset if you took their food, even tho they don't believe in property. Capitalism is separate from finance, read about it or just bitch about it. I don't care.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495127936 126047036,126074662,2017-05-18 17:19:11,">>126072888 I'm sure brainlets and inferior people would advocate for nobody leeching off of anyone. That would be really beneficial for them, wouldn't it? It's not like they would starve in the streets, or is it?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495127951 126047036,126074779,2017-05-18 17:20:13,">>126073870 I'd buy myself a chopper on the black market and deal with you fucks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128013 126047036,126074799,2017-05-18 17:20:17,">>126072899 >t. ""man"" who can't be assed to make his own decisions >>126073037 We're the real racists. Libertarianism is whiter than whipped cream.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495128017 126047036,126074800,2017-05-18 17:20:18,">>126056265 >implying social conservatism is irrelevant The reason you lolbertards always fail and collapse the instant you get a hit of power is because you are oblivious to the social glue that holds society together. You ignore the Jews infecting our society with their filth and advocate a fiscal system than strengthens them. You don't care about race, you don't care about monogamy, you don't care about the less fortunate, you don't care about usury, you don't care about drugs, you don't care about faggotry and the disease it spreads, you don't care about perverse and disgusting kike media destroying our children. The only thing you care about is hoarding your money to spend on your degenerate habits. You are a subhuman kike-apologist, a nigger-loving fornicator. On top of that you're a greedy miser who truly belongs in a death camp.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128018 126047036,126074934,2017-05-18 17:21:16,">>126073117 >going on reddit >being surprised that it's cancer You've been here all summer, haven't you?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495128076 126047036,126074988,2017-05-18 17:21:49,">>126073967 You're talking to the headmaster of /lrg/. Have some humor , cuckboi.",,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1495128109 126047036,126075015,2017-05-18 17:21:59,">>126074491 >multiculturalism >not jewish why are you here >>126074602 Some ancaps are pro-IP, some are not. I think copyright via contract is morally permissible. In tandem, people will need to develop methods to protect the designs and functions of their products, and are incentivised to put out new designs as opposed to stagnating old ones at risk they are leaked. By the way, aren't chip manufacturers already sort of protected by the massive technological capital needed to produce their products?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495128119 126047036,126075023,2017-05-18 17:22:04,">>126074224 >>126074385 You are missing my point. If only one scenario occurs where competition is not possible it will break the system. There is no way around it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495128124 126047036,126075026,2017-05-18 17:22:04,">>126073305 There's no regulation that's gonna stop every shit product, businesses failing do that >>126073386 Also Jouvenal! HHH's citations are a pastebin unto themselves",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128124 126047036,126075095,2017-05-18 17:22:49,">>126074629 Socialism at the tribal level is human nature, capitalism at the societal level is also human nature. This order has been in effect since primordial times.",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495128169 126047036,126075099,2017-05-18 17:22:53,">>126074800 Well.. this in a nutshell, though I tried being civic with these anarchists. They are autists worshiping $",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495128173 126047036,126075105,2017-05-18 17:22:55,">>126074934 I still remember Warhammer Wednesdays on /b/. Reddshit is just the only Libertarian discussion board of note.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495128175 126047036,126075224,2017-05-18 17:23:54,">>126047036 Dixie did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495128234 126047036,126075227,2017-05-18 17:23:56,">>126074027 No my friend it's the other way around. They got everyone off the gold standard because gold used to be 100% backed by bank titles to it. They only rejoiced when Nixon got the US completely off the gold standard in '71. Without a tangible, scarce and difficult to counterfeit commodity money like gold, banks can just claim a monopoly on money and turn on the printing machines. If banks didn't have a legal monopoly on paper money and everyone were free to issue their own fiat paper currency the marginal revenue of each note would approximate zero as the marginal cost of production of each note also reached zero. In other words, the market would be flooded with worthless paper currencies that costed zero to make and rendered zero purchasing power. This is why (((central banks))) have a monopoly, so they can artificially keep the value of their own paper currencies high through legal tender laws. In contrast, a commodity money like gold keeps its value or is actually deflationary, lest someone discovers a huge ore or mine, but even then the amount of gold in the world is finite and a 100% reserve system would ensure a stable currency. Hoppe has a very good lecture on this, look it up on YouTube. Jews pushed for the confiscation of gold so they could hoard it themselves and keep us goyim on worthless paper money.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495128236 126047036,126075286,2017-05-18 17:24:24,">>126074800 >you don't care about x Ad hom. Stop painting us as the bad guys to justify your unreasonableness. >>126075023 It's usually capitalism that deals with scarcity best. So let's hear about this mythical scenario.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495128264 126047036,126075369,2017-05-18 17:25:05,">>126074455 Are you so socially retarded that you actually don't think secret societies are made by any other race? Even with the actual Illuminati was made by white people?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128305 126047036,126075378,2017-05-18 17:25:09,>tfw thread is only ever dead or pic related,,Anonymous,Shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,GB,,1495128309 126047036,126075433,2017-05-18 17:25:40,">>126075095 We disagree on terminology. So what? feeding my kids doesn't make me a socialist it makes me a responsible market actor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128340 126047036,126075442,2017-05-18 17:25:43,">>126075023 If the market failed in that regard, no government would fare better that's for sure.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495128343 126047036,126075454,2017-05-18 17:25:50,">>126048246 Could the bioshshock storyline be real? Could it be possible to do so much science without any regulation that we create a monster? (yes, I know Fontaine was basically a communist and fucked over Andrew through mafia and crime.)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128350 126047036,126075477,2017-05-18 17:26:02,>>126075224,,Anonymous,don_t_tread_on_me_confederate_flag_3_x_5_1.jpg,R5UhtC+lZRG9OGE1kSQzXw==,US,,1495128362 126047036,126075557,2017-05-18 17:26:36,">>126074629 nod an argubend",,Anonymous,Appeal To Nature.png,40ipuq2Fn0CxbK4r76tpKw==,FR,,1495128396 126047036,126075672,2017-05-18 17:27:39,">>126074491 Rockwell and Hoppe are not Jews, and Rothbard got called a Nazi gas chamber leader by lefties. These men fight (past tense for Rothbard, pour ya 40 out for the homie) for the White man's world. The men on the left are all gentiles and that's their main redeeming quality (McAfee has good bantz at least). They are weak in comparison.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495128459 126047036,126075721,2017-05-18 17:28:08,"Again, Libertarians and Ancaps what is to stop me and a group of other successful businessmen from forming a secret society and subtly using propaganda to rule over you by controlling the will of the majority and deciding what their tyranny is?",,Anonymous,1494896294947.png,tb0uSTFGNa6wsCkdkP9NeA==,US,,1495128488 126047036,126075743,2017-05-18 17:28:18,">>126075015 Well thats the problem, if there's no IP protection there's no incentive for innovation. There needs to be a system of laws and law enforcement which basically means a state. And chip designers are different from chip manufacturers. See ARM vs TSMC.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495128498 126047036,126075750,2017-05-18 17:28:22,">>126075227 Yes, and they keep hoarding the gold today 'cause they intend to return to gold standard in the future. Under they system, even if backed by gold they can print money related to a % of their gold reserves. So they would just increase and increase gold reserves until their currency is king of the world. Since this system would most likely be adopted worldwide, the end result would be centralization of all wealth on (((their))) hands, just as their prophecies state. Since money = power that means they could turn to ultra global communism in the blink of an eye. Get it?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495128502 126047036,126075756,2017-05-18 17:28:25,">>126075026 Yes indeed. And Guglielmo Ferrerro's book Peace and War also sounds nice. I love the quote of pic related. Spencer McCallum's book is also supposed to be amazingly red pilled.",,Anonymous,CCN9tmrUsAAcQoN.jpg,nGm3Cfw8Lu9crytkaeg2PQ==,PT,,1495128505 126047036,126075770,2017-05-18 17:28:32,">>126073870 The state is simply a monopoly on force and law. It doesnt matter how post scarcity your tech base is, someone will still come along and kick your shit in if they can",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495128512 126047036,126075776,2017-05-18 17:28:35,">>126075378 tbqh there's too many books to read to have interesting discussions about that but yeah circular arguments gets pretty annoying after a while",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495128515 126047036,126075789,2017-05-18 17:28:38,">>126073243 Ancap board seems almost identical if you look through the immigration posts, just with more echo-posting and memes.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495128518 126047036,126075796,2017-05-18 17:28:44,">>126056655 Hmm, isn't that just great. Get a job or get gulag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128524 126047036,126075880,2017-05-18 17:29:29,Has anyone else here read Mencken? Will there ever be anyone else like him?,,Anonymous,H.-L.-Mencken.jpg,mSMwIqVV4NuLJ0BZ7KlP3A==,US,,1495128569 126047036,126075918,2017-05-18 17:29:44,">>126071150 >there is no plan correct, there are thousands upon thousands of competing plans testing each other for relevance and durability.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128584 126047036,126075935,2017-05-18 17:29:53,">>126075721 > by controlling the will of the majority and deciding what their tyranny is? That's for the Democratic libertarians here In ancapistan nobody gives a shit about what the majority thinks",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495128593 126047036,126075985,2017-05-18 17:30:13,">>126075557 It is natural tho. You can't not act, even if you decide to stay in bed you're acting on your decision. Learn 2 argumentation ethics bro!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128613 126047036,126076002,2017-05-18 17:30:18,">>126073629 >>126073967 Aaaand he's cucking. This is why people don't like us.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495128618 126047036,126076025,2017-05-18 17:30:30,">>126075433 That doesnt even make sense. There is no such thing as responsible market acting except to make profit legally and conpetitively",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495128630 126047036,126076031,2017-05-18 17:30:35,">>126075672 Ok I respect them, then. As I stated, I wouldnt mind observing an AnCap society in a designated zone, as long as you're not hostile with us. Would be an interest experiment on human nature and behaviour.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495128635 126047036,126076079,2017-05-18 17:31:02,">>126073870 I'd sharpen my ice pick.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495128662 126047036,126076097,2017-05-18 17:31:06,">>126075935 >In Ancapistan, nobody gives a shit about what the majority thinks man is not an antisocial animal or autistic. He socializes and forms communities which exclude things which the groups find socially undesirable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128666 126047036,126076175,2017-05-18 17:31:43,">>126075918 relevance does not always mean usefulness it is an inefficient system",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495128703 126047036,126076239,2017-05-18 17:32:19,">>126075750 >they intend to return to the gold standard Dellusional. They're trying to outlaw physical cash so then all they have to do is add zeros on the computers and keep riding on our stupidity. If the NWO ever collapses, gold and silver will be worth a lot more than FED notes or any central bank notes. Don't blame gold, blame Goldstein.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495128739 126047036,126076414,2017-05-18 17:33:47,">>126047036 That image would be better without the 'How 'bout you' part",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128827 126047036,126076443,2017-05-18 17:34:04,">>126076002 This, I'm tired of shitlibs virtue signaling how anti-nazi they are. It's just gay homes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128844 126047036,126076444,2017-05-18 17:34:04,">>126076097 Sure but there aren't the majority can do Jack shit except consumming because they have no political power Also nothing would stop the ressurection of the Klan (the lobby part,not the raiding one,except nogs nogging)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495128844 126047036,126076578,2017-05-18 17:35:07,">>126074463 If a bad situation arises, the Natural Order comes into play. It's not part of AnCap, but let's be real - your scenario wouldn't happen, since you can't really own water in the ground and air in the athmosphere.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495128907 126047036,126076598,2017-05-18 17:35:15,">>126075286 >ad-hom And calling natsocs Marxist gib-grabbers isn't? You known that's a BS strawman but you continue to do it anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128915 126047036,126076669,2017-05-18 17:35:45,">>126073870 post scarcity is a meme, who cares about what could happen in the head of a guy dead 100 years ago. Value is subjective, every human value different things differently and it's also relative to the technological level we live in, read a book nigger",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495128945 126047036,126076702,2017-05-18 17:36:00,">>126076025 Profit could be more than that. When I watch TV it's because I expect a ""profit"" (satisfaction) of being entertained. Man, Economy, and state. Read it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495128960 126047036,126076703,2017-05-18 17:35:59,">>126075756 >wars scarcely affected the masses Wow such bullshit. One only needs to look at the muslim or mongol invasions to prove that totally false",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495128959 126047036,126076708,2017-05-18 17:36:01,">>126076444 You don't need political power to govern people's lives. Even your own literature 'On Liberty' by John Stuart Mills says the two tyrannies that exist are that from the government and that from the tyranny of the majority, the latter being the most pervasive because it permeates your everyday life more than any law can. You know, this only confirms the stereotype of Libertarians and Ancaps being socially autistic and that is why they want to be left alone.",,Anonymous,1226966.jpg,Vr2pP6FNTEl0awJ2+7m3MQ==,US,,1495128961 126047036,126076751,2017-05-18 17:36:24,">>126076239 Well thats the ideal, but not realistic goal. People will fight against that, and a movement to return to gold standard will appear (plan B). Its already in the makings..",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495128984 126047036,126076812,2017-05-18 17:37:04,">>126076702 >a profit of being entertained Hahahahahahahaha",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495129024 126047036,126076814,2017-05-18 17:37:04,">>126074800 Literal falsehoods, you lying kike. You got your cozy little flaps on your eyes and your cozy little earmuffs to ignore reality better. It's not worth debating with you PRECISELY because you reject what we claim and pretend our message is entirely different.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495129024 126047036,126076968,2017-05-18 17:38:22,"Okay, I'm new to this ideology: How do you prevent degeneracy from happening? I fully support free market, but I also believe that protectionism is kind of necessary, especially for harsh alcohol, drugs, cigs.",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1495129102 126047036,126077026,2017-05-18 17:38:46,">>126075099 Nice self-fellatio, nigger. You're getting ground up into concrete and used to build roads to then be destroyed in a performance art project about the idiocy of Keynes, who was a faggot, mind you.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495129126 126047036,126077034,2017-05-18 17:38:49,">>126076812 Care to make a thoughtful case against that? Bitches just don't get that economics is human action.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129129 126047036,126077045,2017-05-18 17:38:52,"But actually and in all seriousness, how does ancap/libertarianism combat degeneracy? What is the libertarian plan?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495129132 126047036,126077173,2017-05-18 17:40:06,">>126056265 The fiscal leftism had always been out there to get votes. Though not a real fiscal conservative, Hitler did purge all of the genuinely left wing economically guys during the Night of the Long Knives. In any event, you'll never get a libertarian country without first purging it of shitskins. And collective action relies on social capital which only comes about in racially homogenous counties.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129206 126047036,126077184,2017-05-18 17:40:09,">>126075369 >t. Chaim Shekelburger But seriously, I'm just shitposting here. If your activity is found out, you're getting a helicopter ride.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495129209 126047036,126077188,2017-05-18 17:40:11,">>126076968 don't tolerate it on your property",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495129211 126047036,126077199,2017-05-18 17:40:20,">>126076708 Their problems,if they eat up bullshit I would try to prove my point and do my ""spooky Illuminati meeting"" too. if there are no monopoly, there would be no conformism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495129220 126047036,126077430,2017-05-18 17:42:11,">>126076751 Alternatively, we have crypto like bitcoin which will invariably get more popular as the NWO is on its last breath. And the best thing is that you can't control it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495129331 126047036,126077513,2017-05-18 17:42:45,">>126077045 Theoretically, you impose good morality through the tyranny of the majority AKA culture which can exclude and include people and lifestyles. However, with absolutely no government, you'll have hidden government who use subtle propaganda to bend the way people think and they can just override that. It can be done in such a way that people don't even know they're being manipulated. Check out the book 'Propaganda' by Edward Bernays. >>126077184 > If your activity is found out, you're getting a helicopter ride. News at 11! Local man found to meet with his friends regularly behind closed doors! Autistic screeching can be heard nationwide! Yeah looks like no one needs to worry about you being a revolutionary leader for your own opinions, lmao. You need laws to ban secret societies, and even then they don't go way. They're SECRET for a reason, dumb dumb.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129365 126047036,126077603,2017-05-18 17:43:31,">>126076031 Don't respect them just because they're gentiles. That sort of logic makes me side with Common Filth, and I hate having to side with him.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495129411 126047036,126077682,2017-05-18 17:44:14,">>126077026 Yes, wet dream awake little anarchist.. You will die from a heart attack while the govt is confiscating the money you gained from your ring of imported male sexual prostitutes, who you treated with the utmost disgust and forced into sexual submission.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495129454 126047036,126077694,2017-05-18 17:44:22,">>126077199 yeah nah, your'e just autistic You're trying to convince me that no one would be bothered if I ran around naked with a buttplug and a fleshlight just hanging casually off my penis",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129462 126047036,126077720,2017-05-18 17:44:42,">>126076443 Right? And it's not just us. >>126076444 This guy thinks the Klan's lobbying is bad. Shiggy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495129482 126047036,126077815,2017-05-18 17:45:28,">>126077430 You bet your ass if digital/crypto becomes the system, it will be backed by gold. They'll merge their two wet dreams into one.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495129528 126047036,126077861,2017-05-18 17:45:54,">>126077815 Oh and it'll be centralized, but will not appear so",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495129554 126047036,126077913,2017-05-18 17:46:16,">>126077720 >secret societies can only rule through lobbying haha holy shit. Again, you're so dumb no one needs to worry about you becoming a revolutionary leader of any opinions you hold. You're just another opinionated autist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129576 126047036,126078001,2017-05-18 17:46:59,">>126077603 No, I respect them cause they are gentiles and smart enough to make a good point about a certain ideology. Looks like they developed their theories. Smart people do that.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495129619 126047036,126078092,2017-05-18 17:47:46,">>126077815 >memecoins and gold will merge.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129666 126047036,126078096,2017-05-18 17:47:45,">>126077513 Of course, you're getting helicoptered if you've been found to cooperate with communists.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495129665 126047036,126078110,2017-05-18 17:47:51,">>126077034 Economics is more than human action, it is describes the rational framework behind human decisions and their outcomes. But thats not the topic. Its meaningless to talk about profit from a subjective pov. While this might be (barely) adequate as a descriptor of human motivation, it does not fall into any kind of -ism. By necessity any rational believes his chosen actions will be ""profitable"" given this description, regardless of his ideology or reasons. In other words, its circular bullshit, stop buying into it",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495129671 126047036,126078200,2017-05-18 17:48:42,">>126077188 This doesn't address the society as a whole. I like the idea that I'm the law on my property, but that's not how society works.",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1495129722 126047036,126078375,2017-05-18 17:50:07,">>126078096 >everyone I don't like is a Communist Where does this come from? >am a capitalist >run a big fashion company >friends in my secret society are also capitalist entrepreneurs >decide we want to push people's thinking in a certain way >we have our products, advertising, spokespeople, and celebrities who use our products do certain things to set the narrative for everyone else to think something is ok and normal >do it so subtly that it doesn't stand out as bad or weird We just rule you. There is no communism involved, brainlet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129807 126047036,126078427,2017-05-18 17:50:32,">>126077682 I REALLY don't want to post dead German soldiers. I REALLY don't. But I feel like I should. You've lost before, let's leave it at that. I frown upon degenerate homosexuals and I would not tolerate them in my vicinity. I also frown upon ""people"" who realise they're too stupid to make their own decisions.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495129832 126047036,126078450,2017-05-18 17:50:46,>>126078092,,Anonymous,jew-gold.jpg,W6Wpx9fXcNLr2DIAUjPtzA==,AR,,1495129846 126047036,126078458,2017-05-18 17:50:52,">>126078200 Agreed, the whole point of opposing degeneracy is that it's the broken windows policy of the soul. It seems to me like having no restriction against it will inevitably result in society turning back into what it is now.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495129852 126047036,126078527,2017-05-18 17:51:29,">>126048246 No t. Man in Washington",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1495129889 126047036,126078544,2017-05-18 17:51:37,">>126078427 >I frown upon degenerate homosexuals and I would not tolerate them in my vicinity. Oh? And what will you do if there are homos in our Ancap community? Violate their NAP with threats? Oh look, tyranny of the majority which that other guy was claiming didn't exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129897 126047036,126078568,2017-05-18 17:51:46,">>126077815 Okay I was trying to make actual arguments but you're just a fruitcake. No amount of Hoppe will cure you, only a helicopter ride.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495129906 126047036,126078579,2017-05-18 17:51:49,">>126078427 exactly, you think like a jew good little goy..",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495129909 126047036,126078684,2017-05-18 17:52:33,">>126077861 And you call us wet dreamers and autists. You're delusional. I'd threaten to skullfuck you, but I'll pass just in case stupidity is an STD. You're so far left on the bell curve, the mean white IQ would go up five points if you tried to execute your fantasy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495129953 126047036,126078699,2017-05-18 17:52:44,">>126077694 >You're trying to convince me that no one would be bothered if I ran around naked with a buttplug and a fleshlight just hanging casually off my penis On the contrary inbred retard from the rural area,fucking quadroon tinfoil faggot who dance on negro music do you know your fucking native language except ebonics ? With your ""Rich NWO will control us if we believe in freedom Zomg"" you imply that nobody would resist against your Satanic-superhuman-evil-rich-dudes (which I said that nothing would stop us going against them)as much as a guy who dance nacked on the streets stop projecting or learn english son a Bois-de-Boulogne hooker",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495129964 126047036,126078722,2017-05-18 17:52:53,">>126048246 No t. Man in Moscow",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129973 126047036,126078752,2017-05-18 17:53:08,any propertarians up in here?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495129988 126047036,126078770,2017-05-18 17:53:18,">>126078001 Fair enough.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495129998 126047036,126078834,2017-05-18 17:53:52,">>126078110 >By necessity any rational believes his chosen actions will be ""profitable"" given this description, regardless of his ideology or reasons. Yes, you're basically quoting Rothbard btw. This is the Austrian method. Also for memes sake may I remind you that arguing for any political philosophy other that Austrian Libertarian Anarchism results in a performative contradiction.",,Anonymous,The_Hoppean.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,US,,1495130032 126047036,126078840,2017-05-18 17:53:54,">>126076598 There's a natsoc in this very thread arguing how gibs are fine as long it's whites getting them.",,Anonymous,1478200172610.gif,MVMCwNtVvZ5Tw73tskn7kQ==,SI,,1495130034 126047036,126078852,2017-05-18 17:53:58,">>126048246 >>126049644 >>126075454 >>126051229 >>126078527 Libertarians are nine year olds confirmed.",,Anonymous,230114_908223010.png,1CssLXYp2vcsQTp6sePt9A==,DE,,1495130038 126047036,126078862,2017-05-18 17:54:02,">>126078568 we shall see who gets thrown from the helicopters you anarchists and commies have always been allies. Look at the First and Second International. You are just hipster commies to us. Only difference is commies run your capitalism through the state.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495130042 126047036,126078888,2017-05-18 17:54:14,"I want to binge on ancap/libertarian lectures, give me good ones to watch",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130054 126047036,126078916,2017-05-18 17:54:27,">>126077913 Can't lobby if there's no government. They're free to control their own territory, but if they go against the principles of Locke, they're getting the airborne oven.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495130067 126047036,126078918,2017-05-18 17:54:28,">>126067194 up is down black is white yes is no left is right",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495130068 126047036,126078922,2017-05-18 17:54:30,">>126078699 >With your ""Rich NWO will control us if we believe in freedom Zomg"" you imply that nobody would resist against your Satanic-superhuman-evil-rich-dudes (which I said that nothing would stop us going against them)as much as a guy who dance nacked on the streets stop projecting or learn english son a Bois-de-Boulogne hooker No one is resisting them now, are they? You will never awaken 300+ million people. Even then, the next generation will be just as human and therefore just as susceptible to being manipulated and NOT EVEN KNOWING IT. Holy fuck Libertarians are so dumb.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130070 126047036,126079059,2017-05-18 17:55:30,">>126078916 >lobby see >>126078375 to manipulate the culture, you alter it. the government doesn't create culture",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130130 126047036,126079088,2017-05-18 17:55:43,">>126078544 do you know people doing whatever they want imply they can discriminate fags or you're pretending being a nigger ? I felt like talking with an Algerian",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495130143 126047036,126079140,2017-05-18 17:56:08,">>126078834 Well if you agree with that premise, then you would suppose that even communists make ""profits"" through marxist revolution",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495130168 126047036,126079156,2017-05-18 17:56:17,"Hello Can I get a quick rundown of what y'all get up to here?",,Anonymous,1451341664744.jpg,/0CK1LkFJRFtGTOvqDWiuQ==,GB,,1495130177 126047036,126079198,2017-05-18 17:56:37,">>126078375 People can smell this shit a mile away at this point, even normies (especially normies). Certain behaviour can be prohibited from communities - nothing wrong with this, I'd take advantage of it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495130197 126047036,126079211,2017-05-18 17:56:42,">>126079140 Yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130202 126047036,126079228,2017-05-18 17:56:47,">>126078684 Whatever Slovakia. Go live in a cave free from society and authority.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495130207 126047036,126079273,2017-05-18 17:57:11,">>126079088 People can do anything they want. If they discriminate a person for being XYZ when the community they live in doesn't, they're labeled as a dick and ostracized. If they discriminate a person for being XYZ and the community does as well, they're a normal community member. That's how it's always worked. Man is a social animal, not a friendless weirdo like you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130231 126047036,126079275,2017-05-18 17:57:16,">>126079211 So everyone makes profits! Economics is bunk",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495130236 126047036,126079373,2017-05-18 17:58:04,">>126079156 Helicopter memes, 3 hour long debates on roads, and tax evasion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130284 126047036,126079409,2017-05-18 17:58:20,">>126078888 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4",,Anonymous,Milton freedom.jpg,ZZmE2Rsn/HVIKo8XC90d5g==,SI,,1495130300 126047036,126079432,2017-05-18 17:58:31,">>126078922 >No one is resisting them now, are they? You will never awaken 300+ million people. And you think wearing a tinfoil hat and joining InfoWars will stop it ? Neither the government or it's absence solve your loaded equation",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495130311 126047036,126079436,2017-05-18 17:58:33,">>126079198 >heh, I'm too smart to be manipulated! Don't even bother trying Yeah we're done here. Again, you're so dumb I don't have to worry about you leading your movement to the mainstream. Thank god.",,Anonymous,pig.png,2774gPkPkV5JeVeEoioLaQ==,US,,1495130313 126047036,126079459,2017-05-18 17:58:44,">>126079275 If they succeed they do. There's always failure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130324 126047036,126079585,2017-05-18 17:59:49,">>126078200 >>126078458 Associate with people who have the same anti-degenerate mindset and form a private community. There is no possible way to locate and purge every degenerate at all time everywhere. see: failed war on drugs",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495130389 126047036,126079623,2017-05-18 18:00:10,">>126079373 How can I do tax evasion if 100% of my income is in digital transactions? >tfw no cash",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495130410 126047036,126079753,2017-05-18 18:01:06,">>126079198 The fact that you use the word 'normies' kind of shows that you are indeed an autist. Holy shit, this general truly does attract the cream of the crop, huh?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130466 126047036,126079828,2017-05-18 18:01:50,">>126079273 I actually have friends because nobody is a blind sheep and you can form your community based on your principles (you already know that right ? Mr totally-not-an-autist)but except insulting you do Jack shit",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495130510 126047036,126079943,2017-05-18 18:02:45,">>126079623 FUGG, you gotta be the boss and not report your earnings. Got any marketable skills?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130565 126047036,126079962,2017-05-18 18:02:55,">>126079828 I'm totally sure your friends are not Kekistani nu-males lmao",,Anonymous,static1.squarespace.jpg,q2HPshMDBKf4tPKBf7ZzvQ==,US,,1495130575 126047036,126080079,2017-05-18 18:04:02,">>126077045 the free market will fix it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495130642 126047036,126080288,2017-05-18 18:05:40,">>126079962 And yours are all Alphas billionaires :^) Also I'm French m8,nobody knows who Sargon ""the attention whore"" of Akkad is",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495130740 126047036,126080361,2017-05-18 18:06:22,">>126079436 And what is the government doing about it now? Nothing. And they shouldn't because it would result in the exact opposite of what you want. In fact the companies are in part pushing shit onto the people to get bastards like Clinton elected because there's not enough freedom and choice is limited. >inb4 muh Nazi govt gonna fix it So state propaganda is just fine, right? Ridiculous.",,Anonymous,Propaganda Rambo.png,h/EfoomsaqYmeTNM7jeuCg==,SI,,1495130782 126047036,126080512,2017-05-18 18:07:30,">>126078544 I won't serve them in shops and the fact that a good number of them carry around deadly diseases should tell you enough about the NAP. >>126078579 Jews like to control others. I like to control myself. You like to control others. Are you sure you want to make that case? Also >jew >goy You should be stuffed in a locker.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495130850 126047036,126080699,2017-05-18 18:08:53,">>126077045 Degeneracy, while profitable is not sustainable in the long run. There is no benefit to spending all your money on dildos and meth. You'll find yourself poor, sober and surrounded by shit covered dragon dildos. Maybe some lesser degenerate behavior will survive, if said degenerate is not excommunicated from polite society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495130933 126047036,126080827,2017-05-18 18:09:50,">>126078862 >we shall see Ah, this refined gentleman likes to see Gaia as he plunges to his death. Good, it means there's one fewer scarf to buy. Those are red anarchists you're talking about. Again, using plain lies to advance your agenda. You're doing the same thing you accuse the Jews of doing.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495130990 126047036,126080954,2017-05-18 18:10:44,">>126079156 Mostly shitposting from both sides, some insightful questions, one Geolord keeps getting ignored, truly a magical place.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495131044 126047036,126080963,2017-05-18 18:10:45,">>126074224 thats the glory of industry and automation, in makes scarce goods abundant. Advances in science canreduce dependance on depletables resources. Still, there isn't that much scarcity, and good recyclying and re-use make that even less of an issue. Entire cities could be built with modern technology using renewable resources. Would it be economically feasible? Money does not define what something is, or isn't possible. Men capacity and knowledge and workforce does. Would it be profitable? Possibly, and most likely. It only takes a change in the way of doing things.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495131045 126047036,126080979,2017-05-18 18:10:52,">>126079459 If communism was so profitable why did it collapse?",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495131052 126082016,126082016,2017-05-18 18:18:41,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DAY OF THE REMOVAL EDITION,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1495131521 126082016,126082376,2017-05-18 18:21:14,">>126080979 >If communism was so profitable why did it collapse? Communism has never been shown to be profitable. Never in human history has a society abolished private property. You know, ""It wasn't real communism"". And all that trash.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495131674 126082016,126082695,2017-05-18 18:23:22,">>126082376 Also, the NAP only applies to people which communists are not.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495131802 126082016,126082855,2017-05-18 18:24:23,"Daily reminder that pic related is why authoricucks fear capitalism. >>126082695 that too.",,Anonymous,article-2251746-168F78E7000005DC-660_634x473.jpg,zz6cmc0LYrGXoYN8U2ZKKw==,US,,1495131863 126082016,126083079,2017-05-18 18:25:50,">>126080827 >Those are red anarchists you're talking about. red or cap anarchist are of the same (((root)))",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495131950 126082016,126083535,2017-05-18 18:29:04,"Adolf Hitler describes the National Socialist monetary system in a succinct paragraph: “If ever need makes humans see clearly, it has made the German people do so. Under the compulsion of this need we have learned in the first place to take full account of the most essential capital of a nation, namely, itscapacity to work. All thoughts of a gold reserves and foreign exchange fade before the industry and efficiency of well-planned national productive resources. We can smile today at an age when economists were seriously of the opinion that the value of currency was determined by the reserves of gold and foreign exchange lying in the vaults of the national banks and, above all, was guaranteed by them. Instead of that we have learned to realize that the value of a currency lies in a nation’s power of production, that an increasing volume of production sustains a currency, and could possibly raise its value, whereas a decreasing production must, sooner or later, lead to a compulsory devaluation.” He added, “We were not foolish enough to try to make a currency [backed by] gold of which we had none, but for every mark that was issued we required the equivalent of a mark’s worth of work done or goods produced.” The National-Socialist economy is one based off work and production.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495132144 126082016,126083606,2017-05-18 18:29:30,"I've mentioned it before but there is a top priorty bounty on finding the archives of Ron Pauls controversal 1990's newsletters. I've seen it quoted, I've even seen a single page on PDF, but I cannot find a full archive. Please, if you're a neet with nothing better to do please look for them! >>126083079 You're jewish.",,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,US,,1495132170 126082016,126084004,2017-05-18 18:32:13,">>126083606 What exactly is on those letters? Rants about minorities?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495132333 126082016,126084176,2017-05-18 18:33:32,">>126083606 Nope, you are.",,Anonymous,muhfreedom.png,6AwPzRydqlPUpXJWpe3xpQ==,AR,,1495132412 126082016,126084270,2017-05-18 18:34:16,">>126077045 The idea is narrowed down to 2 main points: 1) Degeneracy is increased the moment people can isolate themselves from any judgement and their livelihoods are not affected in any major way. Welfare enables degeneracy, back in the day, in order to have a good healthcare deal you needed to associate with others and form an insurance, obviously people would not associate with people known for their degenerate lifestyles as that would incur a higher cost on the non degenerates. The elimination of welfare will force people to interact again, and therefore they shall be exposed to judgement in a decentralized (more efficient) way. 2) Anti-discrimination laws are also degeneracy enablers. Anti discrimination leads to multi-culturalism, again, back in the day some might have been atheists but Christian people formed communities that were more successful due to better moral values, and atheists had to adapt to those moral values for their economic interest. With anti-discrimination, successful people dictate the morals, because you want to live near them so you will accept their hard work ethic, without anti-discrimination and no ability to segregate, the power of dictating the morals falls on the hands of democracy, and the majorities are degenerate. We have the belief that economically motivated migration is augmented incredibly in Anarcho Capitalism because of segregation, people who would vote (due to social pressure) for degeneracy will never ""vote with their feet"" to move to degenerate neighborhoods, so it should, eventually, lead to healthier societies. The moment you ask yourself why brown people loving liberals always threaten to move to the whitest country they can if a rival wins the election, why commies always emigrate to the most capitalist country they can, or why the commies built the Berlin wall, you understand that people voting with their feet tells us a different story than when they vote with a ballot.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495132456 126082016,126084438,2017-05-18 18:35:30,">>126084004 All the race realism, ""homophobia"", and anti-semitism you know libertarains are into but never publish. Ron Paul has denied writing them but I believe he did. He was running for office at the time after all.",,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,US,,1495132530 126082016,126084458,2017-05-18 18:35:40,">>126083606 Nevermind I did a quick Google search. Now I like Dr. Paul even more. ""Zootopia"" lmao.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495132540 126082016,126084534,2017-05-18 18:36:14,">>126082855 Sales? >oh scheisse mein fuhrer, they have a 2 for 1 deal...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495132574 126082016,126084615,2017-05-18 18:36:47,">>126083535 I thought you guys liked order. Why are you posting this shit here? Go to a natsoc thread.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495132607 126082016,126084707,2017-05-18 18:37:19,"/r/Libertarian is the least libertarian community on the internet. people there support minimun wage, govt healthcare and education... how do we deal with it?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1495132639 126082016,126084809,2017-05-18 18:38:07,">>126084176 >n-no I'm not jewish.",,Anonymous,Shoah.jpg,XhdssZbOVNA8L88lhPmojg==,US,,1495132687 126082016,126085221,2017-05-18 18:41:15,">>126084615 NatSoc will win the internet and ideological war. You can't compete against the spirit. It's also the worldwide known defender of white race ideology. The masses will crush you, ""rebels"" !",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495132875 126082016,126085311,2017-05-18 18:41:54,">>126084707 Ignore them, the time for arguing with leftys is over. Libertarian civil war NAOW!",,Anonymous,1491600796988.jpg,C2hp05oTG5lRMBo3nLGzpg==,US,,1495132914 126082016,126085535,2017-05-18 18:43:27,">>126085221 Do you like RAC n Roll?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495133007 126082016,126085802,2017-05-18 18:45:20,">>126085221 You're rejected from every forum on the net and now you're shitting up one of the few sites that'll have you by posting off-topic crap. Do your movement a favour and gas yourself.",,Anonymous,Hyde Glock.gif,VosvGmZZMMCVyQu8Ar54nw==,SI,,1495133120 126082016,126086051,2017-05-18 18:47:22,">>126085311 >mfw Hoppe comes here this summer and I can show him the work we're doing We got to organize some nice thread for the 30th of July",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495133242 126082016,126086072,2017-05-18 18:47:31,">>126085802 lolbertarians are off topic in general",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1495133251 126082016,126086579,2017-05-18 18:51:14,">>126086072 Are you avoiding my post because you do not like RAC? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyry0DJnklA >If you act like a nigger, your future will reflect that.",,Anonymous,AidsCorpse.png,l2tA8eQux4lqNHsHaUzGYw==,US,,1495133474 126082016,126086874,2017-05-18 18:53:38,">>126084615 Are you not talking economics? What is a libertarian economy for btw? Would it not essentially boil down to smaller economys of free trade? This is a viable sub unit within a libertarian society btw.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495133618 126082016,126087239,2017-05-18 18:56:30,">>126082016 Being from Europe I am so jealous at you guys, at the fact that there were libertarian flags vs the commies in some Trump protests...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495133790 126082016,126087507,2017-05-18 18:58:25,">>126084707 Years back we tried arguing that you don't need any of that government crap to have a lefty society. Cooperatives and mutual organizations exist in fairly free markets like Switzerland today. So there's no reason to exclude that option under a right libertarian system.",,Anonymous,socialist healthcare4.png,pWTJVFaoWSJXAEkqIhbAKw==,SI,,1495133905 126082016,126088009,2017-05-18 19:02:29,">>126085311 this succession is the force that creates liberty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495134149 126082016,126088670,2017-05-18 19:07:52,">>126086874 >Are you not talking economics? No. Discussion on roads only. >What is a libertarian economy for btw? Producing copious amounts of drugs and sex toys. >Would it not essentially boil down to smaller economys of free trade? No. Imagine a Hunger Games society. Now add warlords to the mix.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495134472 126082016,126088775,2017-05-18 19:08:50,">>126086874 If you're saying could you have a natsoc 'themed' covenant that engaged in free trade within an overall ancap society, then I'd agree that's viable - as long as those participating were doing so voluntarily",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495134530 126082016,126089131,2017-05-18 19:11:40,"There's a ton of hypocracy in the right and left wing libertarian movements. The only reason there's a ""right"" and ""left"" wing libertarian movement is because of the hypocracy. Protecting personal freedom and liberties from government, institutions and entities should be the main goal here. We need a unified movement because all and all our core beliefs aren't that different, just skewed by a media that ties things into narratives to appeal to different demographics.",,Anonymous,20170517_130015.png,AoRYKVIIey8grQbZxWPXXQ==,US,,1495134700 126082016,126089360,2017-05-18 19:13:36,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495134816 126082016,126089618,2017-05-18 19:15:49,>>126089131,,Anonymous,1493042650959.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,GB,,1495134949 126082016,126089745,2017-05-18 19:16:49,">>126089131 the (((left-libertarians))) are just subversive kikes and sheep thinking we can reconcile our differences is naive because they're libertarian in name only we're not a democratic movement, quality and dedication is far more important than quantity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495135009 126082016,126089846,2017-05-18 19:17:49,>>126089360,,Anonymous,5487251+_cb03fd8bc095719feee272b0802b2eeb.jpg,wjH4t5EncuAic8xNjRrLOQ==,GB,,1495135069 126082016,126089976,2017-05-18 19:18:57,">>126089846 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9pRig-k5Vs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495135137 126082016,126090120,2017-05-18 19:20:24,>>126089360,,Anonymous,1488136985741.jpg,WjHojiFKneFAsZi29p4CnQ==,US,,1495135224 126082016,126090310,2017-05-18 19:21:59,">>126082016 Are authoritarian-national-libertarians allowed in here?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495135319 126082016,126090503,2017-05-18 19:23:47,">>126090310 Yeah I'd say so.",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-possible-for-a-dictator-to-govern-in-a-liberal-way-and-it-is-also-possible-for-friedrich-august-von-hayek-65-6-0643.jpg,uyU9xMwrUGxHEC3JmNW1tQ==,US,,1495135427 126082016,126090744,2017-05-18 19:25:58,">>126090310 A wut now?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495135558 126082016,126090841,2017-05-18 19:27:03,">>126089976 He's not wrong. But pragmatically you really need to end social programs first. And restrict voting rights along with that.",,Anonymous,Immigration act 1965 graph.jpg,/kCnNvJ9HPJUrHxKx+WNBA==,SI,,1495135623 126082016,126090940,2017-05-18 19:28:01,">>126089745 We're assuming in that statement that there's 0 hypocracy in right wing libertarianism and that all libertarians that lean towards the left have the exact same experience, beliefs, ideas and intentions. We're giving the establishment more power by splitting into left and right wing tribalism because of media fearmongering. I think that when critically evaluating the essence of libertarian values which is personal liberty, we see that both sides have the same core values and that if we were to come together we'd have more power to advance these.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495135681 126082016,126090957,2017-05-18 19:28:09,">>126090310 you'd be in good company",,Anonymous,when-you-see-a-friend-from-your-school-days-being-8221539.png,A1fJZ3cAJ403Bj0yRAqe7A==,US,,1495135689 126082016,126091076,2017-05-18 19:29:17,">>126090744 He wants an authoritarian govement to enforce libertarian ethics and protect the people I assume.",,Anonymous,pino2.jpg,9XYAULKNs1oQEYTjADbAmQ==,US,,1495135757 126082016,126091397,2017-05-18 19:32:15,">>126090940 >We're assuming in that statement that there's 0 hypocracy in right wing libertarianism no I'm not >that all libertarians that lean towards the left have the exact same experience, beliefs, ideas and intentions. no i'm not >We're giving the establishment more power by splitting into left and right wing tribalism because of media fearmongering. no we're not >we see that both sides have the same core values and that if we were to come together we'd have more power to advance these. no we don't",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495135935 126082016,126091664,2017-05-18 19:34:35,">>126090310 Tfw anarchist nationalist moderate",,Anonymous,Compass abtirsi.png,UUH98DPGFQFYpt8/DdbSsg==,SI,,1495136075 126082016,126091703,2017-05-18 19:35:02,">>126090841 https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495136102 126082016,126091821,2017-05-18 19:35:55,">>126082376 >>126089618 who exactly makes these graphics? are there more?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495136155 126082016,126091875,2017-05-18 19:36:28,">>126091076 Just seems a bit of an oxymoron",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495136188 126082016,126091913,2017-05-18 19:36:51,">>126091703 lots of this",,Anonymous,why-the-fuck-everything-cost-money-penguin-cla-karl-marx-18040470.png,cy4Xd70TU44Mu/sttnVRWw==,US,,1495136211 126082016,126092159,2017-05-18 19:38:58,">>126087507 > How government solved the healthcare crisis I weep everytime. Found some interesting newspaper clipping from the Australian version of events. > Mutual Aid societies not hurt by National Insurance scheme > Nekk minnit",,Anonymous,Death-Of-Mutual-Aid.jpg,Kfu/s0Cl0+bhsqFcKdd5xw==,AU,,1495136338 126082016,126092203,2017-05-18 19:39:22,">>126091703 >What we believe in are private property rights. Which is exactly what Kokesh says in the video.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495136362 126082016,126092266,2017-05-18 19:39:56,">>126091821 Some is OC by the guys here - that one I lifted from the lrg site http://www.libertarianright.org There are literally hundreds of libertarian memes at the url in this pic",,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1495136396 126082016,126092326,2017-05-18 19:40:23,">>126082016 End Result.",,Anonymous,1470672513135.jpg,2pOlS0yWzh7QsEdSPYFMow==,NL,,1495136423 126082016,126092330,2017-05-18 19:40:26,">>126091821 I make em'. I like to make them as edgy as I possibly can. Im inspired by the success of communist propagada in the modern age. I want there to be propaganda just as powerful for hardcore libertarianism. >>126091875 sometimes you need a pinochet when times are tough.",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,djBDEMhP/3vHQcYeNMeTXA==,US,,1495136426 126082016,126092460,2017-05-18 19:41:28,">>126092330 I dont have much more tho, and I posted the wrong pic.",,Anonymous,No_Roads.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1495136488 126082016,126092529,2017-05-18 19:42:04,What Hoppe and Rothbard books would you recommend buying first?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495136524 126082016,126092932,2017-05-18 19:45:40,">>126092529 Democracy: the god that failed should be a necessary pre-requisite to posting on this thread the road to serfdom by Hayek is good but not necessary",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495136740 126082016,126092995,2017-05-18 19:46:15,">>126092529 We have some PDFs if you dont wanna buy anything >http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ Anatomy of the state is what",,Anonymous,1490024875923s.jpg,f8Sex8jLtvmyKSZvvk+1ew==,US,,1495136775 126082016,126093063,2017-05-18 19:46:51,">>126092159 Saved. > Mutual Aid societies not hurt by National Insurance scheme >t. Federal Royal Commission Yeah that was completely impartial.",,Anonymous,1470771163694.png,UOlheSR32x5Cwj1H5DEEqQ==,SI,,1495136811 126082016,126093118,2017-05-18 19:47:23,>>126092995,,Anonymous,QS4dss.jpg,uRcjwiHQvsgED9W3D1EcqA==,US,,1495136843 126082016,126093152,2017-05-18 19:47:42,">>126092995 Yeah I definitely got the PDFs, but nothing beats having a physical paper book to read from.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495136862 126082016,126093215,2017-05-18 19:48:20,">>126092529 Anatomy of the state Democracy, the God that failed",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495136900 126082016,126093323,2017-05-18 19:49:10,">>126092995 >>126093118 >>126092529 fuck, i hit post by accident. Anatomy of the state for beginners, literally any of rothbards essay books as stated above Democracy is pretty much required reading. Man, Economy and state was was pretty brutal but covered the basic Austrian Economics position",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495136950 126082016,126093426,2017-05-18 19:50:05,">>126083606 Bump for this",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495137005 126082016,126093439,2017-05-18 19:50:15,">>126092330 What fonts you using mate?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495137015 126082016,126093916,2017-05-18 19:54:20,">>126093439 http://www.dafont.com/old-englished-boots.font?text=Libertarian+Right+General http://www.dafont.com/typographica.font?text=LIBERTARIAN+RIGHT http://www.dafont.com/lemon-milk.font?text=Libertarian+Right+General",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1495137260 126082016,126094012,2017-05-18 19:55:13,">>126093916 Thnx",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495137313 126082016,126094176,2017-05-18 19:56:33,"libertarian and capitalist here. i finally have the (((credit))) to purchase property. tired of being a poor pleb, i would rather be a just land lord",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495137393 126082016,126094448,2017-05-18 19:59:05,>>126094176,,Anonymous,1470699032336.jpg,rCdfydAAFJGTbvH57vjMHw==,US,,1495137545 126082016,126094686,2017-05-18 20:01:06,"Have some feel good, old school, fat, chris cantwell spirit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzxjFc2ctHo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495137666 126082016,126095066,2017-05-18 20:04:30,">>126093323 >Man, Economy and state was was pretty brutal That's because it is an economics textbook. Not exactly casual reading, although Rothbard's writing style is one of the most palatable that I've seen from an academic. I find Hoppe comparatively harder to read.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495137870 126082016,126095123,2017-05-18 20:04:58,">>126094176 >land lord You sound like a parasite to me. You are engaging, literally, in rent seeking behavior",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495137898 126082016,126095204,2017-05-18 20:05:42,">>126095123 >>126094176 You just HAD to summon him didn't you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495137942 126082016,126095472,2017-05-18 20:07:55,">>126094176 Good luck with your investment. Would be a shame if something were to happen to the housing market...",,Anonymous,Bill smart.jpg,aYxqDrxeoP7xD94t1/ST7Q==,SI,,1495138075 126082016,126095618,2017-05-18 20:09:13,Serious question guys - Ive had enough with this world now thag leftism has truly conquered everything. Free speech is now being opressed in canada and more socialist programs are in europe and the partys are a fucking joke. What the fuck do I do now? Im thinking of living on my own in the woods i cant deal with this shit any longer,,Anonymous,IMG_20170518_005953.jpg,ZghU8Nr5cWNGeKmOXxBsow==,GB,,1495138153 126082016,126095823,2017-05-18 20:11:00,">>126095618 come to Somalia and start helping build outer haven desu",,Anonymous,uu6Jpia.png,lug3kpsQV2d/2QR0LWONkw==,US,,1495138260 126082016,126095896,2017-05-18 20:11:41,">>126095618 >Im thinking of living on my own in the woods Do you have any experience living in the bush? Do you have any gear? Do you even have woods to go inna?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495138301 126082016,126095914,2017-05-18 20:11:54,">>126095618 >Im thinking of living on my own in the woods. I've been saving and planning for exactly that for years. soverenty is the goal. I don't know if you'll be safe from communism innawoods of europe tho. Long as the man doesn't come for my guns or shutdown my moonshine still im fine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495138314 126082016,126096119,2017-05-18 20:13:48,">>126095618 Without the internet it took 50 years for Marxists to gain a strong foothold in my country, with the internet we can turn things around in our life time. Don't run away.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495138428 126082016,126096205,2017-05-18 20:14:37,">>126082016 I'm a libertarian and I'm a faggot. I like sticking carrots in my ass and watch my wife take big black cock! This thread was started by an agent but we will ignore that to get are fag feels out and about! Oh god, I need some bbc in my ass because I'm a libertarian faggot! >By Based leaf",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495138477 126082016,126096347,2017-05-18 20:15:54,">>126096205 (((you)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495138554 126082016,126096428,2017-05-18 20:16:40,">>126095896 >>126095914 Ive had camping experiences in the past not so much on hunting but im eager to learn. I go shooting on weekends so holding a gun is fine. UK is full blown nanny state so im not sure what state to move to in the US hopefully one with more freedom than here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495138600 126082016,126096752,2017-05-18 20:19:29,">>126096428 So no, to any of my questions. Don't go live in the woods, you will die.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495138769 126082016,126096863,2017-05-18 20:20:24,">>126096752 Outer space it is then",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495138824 126082016,126096905,2017-05-18 20:20:46,">>126096347 (((fag)))",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495138846 126082016,126096997,2017-05-18 20:21:40,"hey folks guess what the united states government is communist apparently i learned that the mortgage, (or deed) that you get nowadays is so that the government owns the property, you just use it; its been that way since the late 1800's",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495138900 126082016,126097269,2017-05-18 20:23:48,">>126084438 Fuck off, seriously fuck right off the planet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495139028 126082016,126097357,2017-05-18 20:24:51,">>126085221 no, we just shoot you in the face as soon as you go beyond talk.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495139091 126082016,126097536,2017-05-18 20:26:24,">>126086072 we're going to hang you and the spics niggers and jews are going to help us, then We Dance",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495139184 126082016,126098412,2017-05-18 20:34:40,">>126095472 yeah but at least i'll still have a place to live, and my price range of property can't drop much >>126095123 what a typical loser bern bro comment. burn in the hell you'e created for yourself, commie faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495139680 126082016,126099511,2017-05-18 20:44:31,">>126082016 Since most of the regulars on the lrg are not sub 80 IQ brainlets and since these threads always end up gradually disappearing due to inactivity can we make a habit of starting a topic of discussion in the OP and maybe have some reading or listening we can do before we join where we can begin to start a FAQ or something. Just an idea.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495140271 126082016,126100252,2017-05-18 20:51:13,">>126099511 it's usually expected that other people would post bait that we refute. Over and over again. As far reading/listenings go, the website has a good selection of reading material as well as pic related, with hoppewave on YouTube for music do you have any particular questions in mind by the way? maybe that is how discussion can begin, honest discussion at least, better than the usual bait replying",,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1495140673 126082016,126101781,2017-05-18 21:05:20,,,Anonymous,1494106194804.png,Z1B892IcGCKJouzZODOx8Q==,US,,1495141520 126082016,126101871,2017-05-18 21:06:04,how to trigger a communist,,Anonymous,triggered communists.png,FRRTSRlEz2Ge6x5BEwwMEA==,US,,1495141564 126082016,126102759,2017-05-18 21:14:12,">>126082016 I've got so much love for the philosophy behind libertarianism, but it contradicts my interests as a poor, practically disabled person",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1495142052 126082016,126103278,2017-05-18 21:18:49,">>126097269 you can't into race realism, homophobia and anti-semitism? why not?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495142329 126082016,126103399,2017-05-18 21:19:51,fuggn bump,,Anonymous,1486186775179.png,NHZlurCM1iiAzI+5pkZEAA==,US,,1495142391 126082016,126103449,2017-05-18 21:20:18,">>126102759 Sorry to hear that man.",,Anonymous,1479962570345.png,OZuM0GD1Q6UcS5PlFoxLmg==,US,,1495142418 126082016,126103533,2017-05-18 21:21:05,">>126102759 I don't think it necessarily contradicts all of your interests, at least not in the long-term. true, it would depend on the extent of one's practical disability, but a better economy means the greater availability of jobs, employment opportunities and career advancement, cheaper goods and services, and most of all, more money able to be charitably donated to the needy. These benefits can be enjoyed by everyone i'm rather poor myself but I stand by libertarianism as it eventually raises standards of living for everybody. That is what capitalism does, and what capitalism will continue to do. The tragedy is the short-shortsightedness of the masses to seek gratification in the immediate moment, rather than delaying it for more future gains",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495142465 126082016,126103706,2017-05-18 21:22:46,">>126099511 Yeah definitely this. I'm a little surprised Libertarians in general aren't very active on activism ideas considering the momentum the ideas are having over the last 10 years.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495142566 126082016,126104398,2017-05-18 21:29:29,">>126103449 thanks bro >>126103533 that's a good point about more money to be donated. it's not like philanthropy will be non existent, rich people will still need to virtue signal. although it's comfy to have a social safety net so i don't starve, as guilty as it makes me feel to accept",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1495142969 126082016,126104583,2017-05-18 21:31:17,">>126103706 it's difficult to sell. There is barely any ""edge"" factor outside sneks, helicopters, and smiley faces, with the underlying economics principles tricky to grasp at a glance. I don't think libertarianism can work under a democracy, not when the idea of radically less government means less free shit for the voting populace or less control for special interest groups. That's not to say activism isn't important, but on a larger scale it seems like a futile losing battle; after all it's still playing under the very same state rules that it intends to destroy it is in essence an ideology supremely hard to accept when everyone is taught from a young age that government is always good, all the time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495143077 126082016,126105410,2017-05-18 21:38:43,">>126100252 > it's usually expected that other people would post bait that we refute. Over and over again. As far reading/listenings go, the website has a good selection of reading material as well as pic related, with hoppewave on YouTube for music It's the same bait over and over. Instead when someone says ""Oh well how about the roads huh? We should give them a question number and they can check out the response. So instead of long responses we just post a refined answer with possible links and further reading suggestions. >>126102759 You love philosophy, obviously you're a smart guy why couldn't you work as a professor, or analyst of sorts? >>126103706 We are a bit snobby. It's beneath us to go out and speak to the common man. I mean socialism has it's intellectuals and popularizers we only have intellectuals.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495143523 126082016,126105645,2017-05-18 21:40:44,">>126104398 the idea is to eliminate the need for public safety nets in the first place. I admit it's a scary thought, but hear me out. If people have more jobs, everything is cheaper, and charitable people have more money to give, what need does it have that a more local private version can't replace and do better with? family members, churches, just charity groups in general could prosper in greater concentrated effort (more support money) to those they care about -- and that could mean to you Social safety nets, at least in my interpretation, seems like lube given by the state to ease their own regular acts of rape. Less painful, sure, but wouldn't it be nice not getting raped in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495143644 126082016,126106172,2017-05-18 21:45:21,">>126104398 > although it's comfy to have a social safety net so i don't starve, as guilty as it makes me feel to accept We'd have private charities that cater to the disabled. What kind of disability do you have? Are you a vegetable who can only speak or what?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495143921 126082016,126106224,2017-05-18 21:45:52,">>126105410 I get chronic cluster headaches, I'm usually either in intense pain or groggy from being in intense pain. Can be useful a few hours a day, but I can't plan when and they're not guaranteed. Maybe more flexible contracts would let me actually do something outside of the 9-5 paradigm >>126105645 Good analogy. They also make you feel like shit to accept, although not everyone feels that way",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1495143952 126082016,126106237,2017-05-18 21:45:57,"Two questions: 1.) Can I be a nationalist and a libertarian? 2.)What is the view on ""National socialists?"" Do you actively oppose them or just let them be?",,Anonymous,muh chart.png,N4YsHBkPjAruE4RPfTwfOg==,US,,1495143957 126082016,126106293,2017-05-18 21:46:26,">>126104583 >>126103706 >>126099511 I would love to help put an FAQ together, there was an effort to make one early ing /lrg/s conception but we didn't put in the work. btw theres tons of edge factor /pol/ will love beyond memes. some libertarians may be too pussy to look into it but any hardcore libertarian should look into race realism, anti-egalitarianism, natural law and so on",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495143986 126082016,126106551,2017-05-18 21:48:53,">>126106237 >1.) Can I be a nationalist and a libertarian? Yeah, it especially makes sense for americans since the history of america is libertarian and revolutionary. >2.)What is the view on ""National socialists?"" Do you actively oppose them or just let them be? Some really hate them, some pal around with them.",,Anonymous,Pol (2).png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1495144133 126082016,126106614,2017-05-18 21:49:24,">>126105410 > We should give them a question number and they can check out the response ha, that sounds like a good idea. Someone should make a pic about that, I agree >socialism has it's intellectuals and popularizers we only have intellectuals it seems that we're just too good. Socialism at least uses their fools as cannon fodder to die in glorious combat for great cause or at least as drones to swarm and drown out discussion, unaware of what's really happening while their intellectuals reap the benefits of their struggle. It's beautifully ironic, in that way I don't know how else to share libertarianism to the common man without making it clear to them it's short-term pain and long-term gain. When that is presented to them, it becomes massively unappealing -- for if the common man could think of tomorrow rather than today, he would have excelled already",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495144164 126082016,126106686,2017-05-18 21:49:58,">>126106551 btw I am fairly Nationalist myself, I love America, its history and culture.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495144198 126082016,126107061,2017-05-18 21:53:10,">>126106551 another thing: I'm not sure it's right to call ourselves ""anarcho capitalists"" since that would imply lawlessness. I'm completely against a society that doesn't value higher morals. I'm also in favor of some government, but limited to the point where people can truly experience liberty. By the way, has there ever been a libertarian nazi (or one who claimed to be)?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495144390 126082016,126107209,2017-05-18 21:54:27,">>126106224 > Maybe more flexible contracts would let me actually do something outside of the 9-5 paradigm You could do contract work of your own. Personally I would love to support firms that hire people with such ailments even if it mean an increase the cost of their product or service. >>126106293 A few questions we could begin with. Also we should have a glossary page for terms. 1. What is libertarianism? 2. What is anarcho-capitalism 3. What in particular is 'right libertarianism'? 4. What are the differences between anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism? 5. What is a free market? 6. What is Austrian economics and what does that school of economic thought teach? 7. Why is free trade good? 8. Why do we advocate for privatisation? 9. Why should health care be privatised? 10. Does the USA have a private/free market healthcare system? 11. Why should government welfare be abolished? 12. Why should governments reject gun control? 13. Why are labour unions bad? 14. Why should education (at all which includes levels primary/elementary school, secondary/middle and high school, and tertiary level) be privatised? 15. What does free speech matter? 16. Why is the freedom of association important? 17. Why do you oppose taxation?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495144467 126082016,126107429,2017-05-18 21:56:20,">>126106293 >theres tons of edge factor /pol/ will love beyond memes that's true. I've often described ancap as a form of soft eugenics with a distinctly economical twist. Obviously degenerates would not last very long in ancapistan, not when their natural self-destructive nature of being a degenerate would mean that they naturally wither away on their own from a lack of state support",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495144580 126082016,126107447,2017-05-18 21:56:30,">>126106614 > I don't know how else to share libertarianism to the common man without making it clear to them it's short-term pain and long-term gain. When that is presented to them, it becomes massively unappealing -- for if the common man could think of tomorrow rather than today, he would have excelled already Molymeme made a great video a long while back when he spoke about certain Libertarian speaker who gave a talk on libertarianism however he himself was fat. Molyneux makes a great point. How can a fat person lecture you on concept of deferred gratitude when he's can't control his own eating habits, all to his detriment.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495144590 126082016,126107725,2017-05-18 21:58:53,">>126107447 What I mean is we should expect to hold people's hand through this and we should be examples of that.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495144733 126082016,126107777,2017-05-18 21:59:20,">>126104583 It's difficult to sell in its current form because Libertarians are so focused on being pure & intellectually consistent rather than persuasive & appealing. Long winded rational arguments to show the basis of self-ownership & property rights are fine to start with but the movement has to go Ron Paul style to move beyond it and focus on learning how to sell & persuade, the Marxists did it over 100 years after they had their basis.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495144760 126082016,126107973,2017-05-18 22:01:17,">>126107777 Divine quads prove this > to go Ron Paul style to move beyond it and focus on learning how to sell & persuade We have to distill our long arguments into shorter ones and have slogans that are practical. I think the first objective of all libertarian everywhere is to abolish public education, either completely or via a voucher system and not allow the gov't to draft any form of curriculum.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495144877 126082016,126108210,2017-05-18 22:03:16,">>126107973 Don't forget politics is a lagging indicator for the culture, need to spring up the culture of freedom/choice/individualism etc Promote it in the day-day lives, real tangible examples people can see and get behind, everyone loves Uber, Netflix, Bitcoin, the net itself etc.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495144996 126082016,126108222,2017-05-18 22:03:23,"sounds good, wanna work onb some answers? >1. What is libertarianism? >2. What is anarcho-capitalism 4. What are the differences between anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism? For Anarcho-Capitalism would center it on non-aggression. I don't know how I would seperate libertarianism from ancap tho. >3. What in particular is 'right libertarianism'? Paleolibertarianism-social conservatism, rothbardian/hoppean, nationalist, or reactionary libertarians.",,Anonymous,Cold-War-Ads-The-Red-Menace.jpg,WtSIgmVj4PvlxoftFg3Wyg==,US,,1495145003 126082016,126108280,2017-05-18 22:03:59,">>126107209 ment to quote you. >>126108222",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495145039 126082016,126108311,2017-05-18 22:04:14,">>126094176 >be a just land lord no such thing.",,Anonymous,k41V9sG.jpg,ZyhaoL9vTAUfTbHmXq59+A==,US,,1495145054 126082016,126108461,2017-05-18 22:05:29,">>126095204 Maybe one day youll understand property rights and what they actually imply; until then enjoy the Georgeposting",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1495145129 126082016,126108511,2017-05-18 22:05:58,"Also add in some history. > 0. Where did Libertarianism come from The enlightenment, classical liberalism, aristotelianism yadda yadda, we are the inheritors of the enlightentment of the libery move, individual rights & freedom etc Jeffrey Tucker has some great articles on this as did the old Daily Anarchist website.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495145158 126082016,126108694,2017-05-18 22:07:47,">>126108511 Careful going down this path. Your feudal masters will be upset if you start looking into classical liberalism. Never mention the Lockean proviso",,Anonymous,tj.jpg,iRwX2q2H1PS6JJv9cVQYvw==,US,,1495145267 126082016,126108761,2017-05-18 22:08:21,">>126108222 4. Right libertarianism is the particular libertarian philosophy as espoused by Murray Rothbard, Hans Hermann Hoppe and Lew Rockwell. Adherents hold traditional Juedo-Christian beliefs on morality and oppose globalism, Marxism, socialism, multiculturalism, open borders and homosexuality. They are in favour of closed borders preferring ethnic nationalism over multiculturalism, and would otherwise be considered 'conservative'. 2. We should just copy verbatim the first three paragraphs of the Mises Wiki entry. https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495145301 126082016,126108899,2017-05-18 22:09:40,">>126107061 >I'm not sure it's right to call ourselves ""anarcho capitalists"" since that would imply lawlessness i don't blame you for thinking that anarcho-capitalism means lawlessness, but ancap just means being free from a central, coercive government, not voluntary private laws or private governance. Higher morals can definitely still be in place, just within one's own private borders of private property believe it or not, yes, this means that you can technically be a libertarian nazi. It would just be being as nazi as you can from your own realm of private property, but nazi rules can still apply there and you can gas anybody that trespasses, particularly undesirables. Overall as a long-term effect, this means that while everyone experiences freedom, the split in land ownership all means shitty economic models (reckless socialism) inevitably collapses, and private nazi territory can expand -- legally and without blood from purchasing undervalued property once people leave. as an endgame, people would have freedom beyond their wildest imagination. private property based on shitty economics models would still have their own little corners of detroits, only you're not responsible for forced to pay for it anymore. You can just point and laugh from the comfort of your own property and say ""let that be an example to all those who follow such policies and abandon freedom, eternal reminders of foolishness""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495145380 126082016,126109233,2017-05-18 22:12:50,">>126107061 its often called private-law if you don't like anarcho capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495145570 126082016,126109274,2017-05-18 22:13:14,">>126108222 A ""right"" libertarian is a royal libertarian. They conflate state and public property. They ignore the principles of self ownership and what they imply. They confuse common resources with socialism. The quote people who have tried, and failed to argue against true libertarian values like everyone's right to community created economic rent. They love making sport of combining what they have made with what no one has made and calling it theirs.",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1495145594 126082016,126109333,2017-05-18 22:13:45,">>126108899 > i don't blame you for thinking that anarcho-capitalism means lawlessness, but ancap just means being free from a central, coercive government, not voluntary private laws or private governance. Higher morals can definitely still be in place, just within one's own private borders of private property requesting that infograph comparing an anarcho-capitalist world as a group of competing swiss cantons people have to realize there are going to be communes where people we'll live in an essentially fascist country, other myself would prefer a communal court system, others might enforce Sharia, and that's okay",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495145625 126082016,126109395,2017-05-18 22:14:19,any good wallpapes lads?,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495145659 126082016,126109452,2017-05-18 22:14:44,">>126082016 YOU SHALL NOT, STEP ON",,Anonymous,terra-formars-guns.png,N4+z5XeJbPyEgXYeG9iEew==,US,,1495145684 126082016,126109542,2017-05-18 22:15:42,">>126109395 personally I use this one despite it not being in proper wallpaper resolution i think it is still very nice",,Anonymous,1489426808999.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,US,,1495145742 126082016,126109605,2017-05-18 22:16:10,">>126107209 >5. What is a free market? I want to make a point to contrast the ""most profitable exchange wins"" concept. People WILL turn down deals to sell their family into slavery and all matter of stupid shit we get accused of.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495145770 126082016,126109650,2017-05-18 22:16:33,>>126109395,,Anonymous,Flag.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,US,,1495145793 126082016,126109754,2017-05-18 22:17:18,">>126095123 >land lords are parasites because people should be able to live on your property without paying?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495145838 126082016,126109880,2017-05-18 22:18:17,">>126109395 if you're edgy.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,US,,1495145897 126082016,126109954,2017-05-18 22:18:54,">>126109754 >09754▶ >>>126095123 >>land lords are parasites >because people should be able to live on your property without paying? We call ourselves the ""party of principle,"" and we base property rights on the principle that everyone is entitled to the fruits of his labor. Land, however, is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and our system of land tenure is based not on labor, but on decrees of privilege issued from the state, called titles. In fact, the term ""real estate"" is Middle English (originally French) for ""royal state."" The ""title"" to land is the essence of the title of nobility, and the root of noble privilege. The royal free lunch When the state granted land titles to a fraction of the population, it gave that fraction devices with which to levy, and pocket, tolls on the fruits of the labor of others. Those without land privileges must either buy or rent those privileges from the people who received the grants or from their assignees. Thus the state titles enable large landowners to collect a transfer payment, or ""free lunch"" from the actual land users. careful not to conflate state and common property; if you really wanna know read pic related.",,Anonymous,commonvsstateprop.jpg,2HUhFgaPW/aBdZC7xmFcDg==,US,,1495145934 126082016,126110121,2017-05-18 22:20:21,">>126109274 The right side of that image does not make sense. Property rights infer the right to give, sell and develop your property. The old man's father passed his property voluntarily to his son, what's wrong with that? He's justified in doing so. Since the right libertarian in your image is leasing property and to an extent depreciates the overall value of the house he is paying for that in his rent. Also the owner is taking the responsibility for the utilities and if the there is a change in the housing market whereby his suburb/city becomes the next Detroit. > If you want to live in this state ,you have to pay taxes Stealing is when you take people's property coerecively or without legal right. I believe government are justified in taxing their population but only to an extent (10% at most). But taxation is theft when it involes taking half your pay check. > They confuse common resources with socialism Socialism seeks to make everything a common resource through gradual nationalisation of industry There would be communal resources in a libertarian society (certain roads, court systems, community centres, libraries)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495146021 126082016,126110151,2017-05-18 22:20:37,">>126109880 >>126109650 >>126109542 thx",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495146037 126082016,126110531,2017-05-18 22:23:48,">>126110121 and you dont even understand what socialism is. Youre just ITT for the memes right? go back and read >>126108461 and >>126109954 if you still dont get it ill answer your questions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495146228 126082016,126110698,2017-05-18 22:25:17,">>126110121 the pictures not the posts",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1495146317 126082016,126110904,2017-05-18 22:27:07,">>126110531 not him but for the ease and benefit of lurkers, could you summarize what your image intends to convey succinctly so that the position is made as clearly as possibly? this helps people understand your cause as much as it helps reduce ambiguity on both sides",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495146427 126082016,126111029,2017-05-18 22:28:17,">>126109954 The land itself is not produced by anyone, but any buildings and/or changes to the land are, and the owner(s) have every right to profit off of its use.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495146497 126082016,126111198,2017-05-18 22:29:57,">>126109954 Even Molymemes Can BTFO geofags. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOZvvyw5PoQ",,Anonymous,1488752319484.jpg,CqIC18Eh7/OI6pdEeY2W5Q==,US,,1495146597 126082016,126111363,2017-05-18 22:31:20,How fine is your clay statists?,,Anonymous,frederic-bastiats-quotes-6.jpg,zREj6YZNX3cIky9DX3Jeog==,AU,,1495146680 126082016,126111873,2017-05-18 22:36:00,">>126109274 against private property, eh? socialist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495146960 126082016,126112039,2017-05-18 22:37:14,">>126111363 this brings up an interesting thought: what if bionically augmented humans are elected to rule over organic fleshfags? they are not made of finer clay, but finer steel, complete with optimized cognitive functionality. Are they then exempt from this criticism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495147034 126082016,126112748,2017-05-18 22:43:12,">>126112039 No, fucking no. once the robots start asking for civil rights your fucked. You think robots made for the purpose of ruling you is gonna care about libertarian ethics?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495147392 126082016,126113543,2017-05-18 22:50:09,Am I the only libertarian that doesn't like being associated with this meme because it's against the most normal values and I'm also against it?,,Anonymous,consents.jpg,zkekbL4RxrUQnPSUJ4VhWQ==,US,,1495147809 126082016,126114096,2017-05-18 22:54:47,"makes me reeee. no child can consent to that shit, and any ;parent who would allow that should be put down.",,Anonymous,RPV19Q4LN1KlFo8PK732zajI2wuGMz6kfPIsGakF37I.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,US,,1495148087 126082016,126114285,2017-05-18 22:56:18,">>126113543 most ancap memes are wild exaggerations, and that one is definitely no exception",,Anonymous,1494349465202.png,chq4vnTJqJyiwbt8st1apA==,US,,1495148178 126082016,126114525,2017-05-18 22:58:13,">>126107061 >ce that would imply lawlessness. I'm completely against a society that doesn't value higher morals. I'm also in favor of some government, but limited to the point where people can truly experience liberty. By the way, has there ever been a libertarian nazi (or one who claimed to be)? for the last fucking time. anarchy doesn't mean no rules, it means no rulers.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495148293 126082016,126116082,2017-05-18 23:12:35,Is this where the fags who are afraid of losing their private property go to suck each other's cocks?,,Anonymous,1495048289.png,iPC6LbJhF3jKFmNy7SlQjg==,US,,1495149155 126082016,126118350,2017-05-18 23:32:58,bump,,Anonymous,1492871175973.gif,2taseB3KJUtVtMFkkEKD7g==,US,,1495150378 126082016,126118681,2017-05-18 23:35:58,">>126108694 >Lockean proviso ie. complete nonsense",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495150558 126089759,126089759,2017-05-18 19:16:57,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. A reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ Pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Hoppe explains time preference and Crusoe economics 101 by based Brent Ancap https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fP8j7JPd7ag [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Because the other one died too fast,Anonymous,1490500014266.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,US,,1495135017 126185094,126185094,2017-05-19 13:04:27,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism Website : libertarianright.org CORE READING ON THIS FINE FRIDAY: The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Economics in One Lesson - Henry Hazlitt https://mises.org/system/tdf/Henry%20Hazlitt%20Economics%20in%20One%20Lesson.pdf?file=1&type=document >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberty or Equality - Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberty%20or%20Equality%20The%20Challenge%20of%20Our%20Time_4.pdf?file=1&type=document HOPPE READING LIST: >Articles by Hans-Hermann Hoppe https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/hans-hermann-hoppe/",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg.jpg,BS5+nW/ikvr79RVssfnYow==,IN,,1495199067 126185094,126185234,2017-05-19 13:05:37,who will build the roads?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495199137 126185094,126185246,2017-05-19 13:05:43,,,Anonymous,,,IN,,1495199143 126185094,126185508,2017-05-19 13:07:57,">>126185234 transportation : 2.7% of spending. https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1495199277 126185094,126185609,2017-05-19 13:08:43,,,Anonymous,,,IN,,1495199323 126185094,126185683,2017-05-19 13:09:26,,,Anonymous,,,IN,,1495199366 126185094,126185749,2017-05-19 13:09:58,A Bump for our snakes,,Anonymous,,,IN,,1495199398 126185094,126185975,2017-05-19 13:12:05,"Afraid of big government taking down your sites? Afraid of government censoring your opinions? Use zeronet. zeronet.io",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1495199525 126185094,126187789,2017-05-19 13:28:18,Who builds the loos in an Indian libertarian society?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495200498 126185094,126189047,2017-05-19 13:40:31,">>126187789 I'm burger here on a vacation. Ask the indians",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1495201231 126185094,126189374,2017-05-19 13:43:21,"Indian /lrg/? I love it! >Inb4 where will we poo?",,Anonymous,ancap_andy4_0.jpg,QHcWwN+nxl2d72pS899NJg==,US,,1495201401 126185094,126189472,2017-05-19 13:44:15,">>126189374 not indian. ask them",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1495201455 126185094,126190051,2017-05-19 13:49:52,">>126185094 >Gary the meme Johnson",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495201792 126185094,126190104,2017-05-19 13:50:25,">>126189472 Shit, we'll have another bump anyway. Couldn't you just pretend to be poo for me?",,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1495201825 126185094,126190389,2017-05-19 13:53:00,">>126185094 When I read liberty themed literature",,Anonymous,IMG_1115.gif,M1m375xZbvoMQQrlsON8ZA==,US,,1495201980 126185094,126190429,2017-05-19 13:53:21,">>126185094 i like this pic",,Anonymous,1446275075228.jpg,u8xUhRSQyrXIHBXnKysjmQ==,US,,1495202001 126185094,126191872,2017-05-19 14:06:44,">>126187789 Nobody We poo poo on street",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1495202804 126218957,126218957,2017-05-19 18:01:39,"Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), (((Friedman))), Pinochet, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - MI GENERAL EDITION,Anonymous,fully automated helicopter rides.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,SK,,1495216899 126218957,126219018,2017-05-19 18:02:08,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1495216928 126218957,126219090,2017-05-19 18:02:53,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say The Law by Fréderic Bastiat The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe Second Treatise of Government by John Locke Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,reading list lrg.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,SK,,1495216973 126218957,126219211,2017-05-19 18:04:00,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast GREAT TIER faceberg com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right 1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T",,Anonymous,lrg tiers.jpg,Ih5kYEktvivoO7oz5G1xhQ==,SK,,1495217040 126218957,126219460,2017-05-19 18:06:06,"VIDEOS: Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c 1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 MUSIC: Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4 I Need a Pinochet - youtube com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o Ain't I Right - youtube com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw Dixie's Land - youtube com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc Yankee Doodle - youtube com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w Adios Mi General - youtube com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM Rhodesians Never Die - youtube com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg Hammer Of The Right - youtube com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc Start Up The Rotors - youtube com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc MEMES: Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,lrg full.jpg,l7//YXZ1S0+SAcgQ28RN3A==,SK,,1495217166 126218957,126219589,2017-05-19 18:07:15,,,Anonymous,so to speak wave.jpg,PgRS9iRYc/dTEocthWpw4g==,SK,,1495217235 126218957,126219626,2017-05-19 18:07:37,>>126219589,,Anonymous,agorism.jpg,GmalMlcv2ZToWjpBLUmZyA==,SK,,1495217257 126218957,126219735,2017-05-19 18:08:34,>>126219626,,Anonymous,hoppe ancapwave.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,SK,,1495217314 126218957,126219779,2017-05-19 18:08:57,>>126219735,,Anonymous,hat compass.jpg,4oVJjAO70Ge1ukaPB9sN5g==,SK,,1495217337 126218957,126221129,2017-05-19 18:20:24,Wassap Slovakia my dude. Nice paste.,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1495218024 126218957,126221206,2017-05-19 18:21:01,">>126218957 I compiled some data. http://theunbrokenwindow.com/Development/MADDISON%20The%20World%20Economy--A%20Millennial.pdf (2006) Maddison analyses the history of the world economy from a millenial perspective. In his work, Maddison displays some intriguing figures about the 1990 purchasing power-adjusted (PPP) GDPs of various western capitalist and eastern socialist nations between 1950 and 1990, which are shown above. The Czechoslovak Socialist Republic declined in total GDP 20,9% after the collapse of the CCCP/USSR, in addition to their minute growth; Hungary declined 17,5%, and; the Soviet Union in toto declined 22,8%. On a PPP basis, weak capitalist economies (Italy, Spain, and Austria in this example) outperformed strong socialist economies (Czechoslovakia, Hungary, USSR total) by a factor of two. Counting the declines of socialist economies after the CCCP fell and liquidation began, they beat them by a factor of nearly four.",,Anonymous,gdpcollapseppp.png,E2I+hvbXmPy6Lzuz/W3EHw==,US,,1495218061 126218957,126221284,2017-05-19 18:21:39,">>126221206 https://www.jec.senate.gov/reports/103rd%20Congress/East-Central%20European%20Economies%20in%20Transition%20(1634).pdf http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/03/02/389578089/your-grandparents-spent-more-of-their-money-on-food-than-you-do https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/DOC_0000498133.pdf (1995) Hardt & Kaufman analyse the patterns of economic growth and transition in East-Central European economies. Their analysis reveals that nations under Communist control actually experienced relative decline in capital stock, development, GDP, and prosperity in toto. Meanwhile, Germany, Austria, France, and other western European nations experienced increased economic growth in the Wirtschaftswunder, Trente Glorieuses, and the post-war boom. Overall, the inefficiency of systems without competition or market-clearing prices became costly and unsustainable, especially with the increasing complexity of world economics. Per capita GDP in Socialist nations rapidly fell below comparable western European counterparts on an exchange basis. To showcase the effects of Socialism and Capitalism on the basis of per capita GDP, several average nations are compared above using 1990 dollars in the years 1938 and 1990. The Czechoslovak Socialist Republic declined in total GDP 20,9% after the collapse of the CCCP/USSR, in addition to their minute growth; Poland declined 13%; Hungary declined 17,5%; Bulgaria declined 28,9%, and; Romania declined 32,4%. In 1990, Soviet nations also spent a larger portion of their income on food (44%) versus western nations (11%). This indicates that food was relatively more expensive and their wages were lower, since they still ate fewer calories than did westerners.",,Anonymous,gdpcollapse.png,6+T8gBHetGTowJXoEtuvJQ==,US,,1495218099 126218957,126221319,2017-05-19 18:21:57,">>126221284 The authors remark that socialist states lacked competition and market clearing prices (they hit them twice between 1938 and 1990, for oil, and for grain), while effective demand neither constrained supply nor provided stimuli to improve microeconomic efficiency. Capital stock stagnated as individual initiative and risk-taking was impossible and governments are unable to create innovation — in the Soviet Union, factories didn't close or improve. The authors call these results 'misdevelopment' and they're readily visible in the aftermath of Communism, when every post-Soviet nation experienced a precipitous immediate decline in GDP as they began the process of liquidating their bad investments had under Soviet central planning boards. This price had to be paid eventually, and it cost them dearly, but the results of transitioning to the capitalist market system were better than continued squalor under socialism. Socialism made eastern Europe poorer than it should be. Socialism cannot work without omnipotence and clairvoyance thanks to the impossibility of the aggregation and use of knowledge in one place, and the impossibility of economic calculation, explaining these results.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495218117 126218957,126221432,2017-05-19 18:22:52,>>126218957,,Anonymous,a484e7ed811c33f0adcfcc8e4dc1ca501d81f85a.png,8SmWDS6eKSIcXJQ14dnOtw==,FI,,1495218172 126218957,126221445,2017-05-19 18:23:01,Support Right-Wing Populist movements! Support Secessionist movements!,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,djBDEMhP/3vHQcYeNMeTXA==,US,,1495218181 126218957,126221552,2017-05-19 18:23:51,">>126221432 Whats ""good"" about starving? also fuck off back to your containment thread.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495218231 126218957,126221654,2017-05-19 18:24:45,">>126221552 When you fuck off from ""my containment thread"" :^)",,Anonymous,554bea06e34eeea331090a72ab72c4a245316fec.png,XQyHn4uQqQDUY4jBoiuqhw==,FI,,1495218285 126218957,126221753,2017-05-19 18:25:31,">>126219018 exellent!",,Anonymous,The_General.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1495218331 126218957,126222028,2017-05-19 18:27:48,">>126221654 >When you fuck off from ""my containment thread"" :^) What? thats not even a reply to my post. you're an idiot.",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1495218468 126218957,126222259,2017-05-19 18:29:59,">>126221206 perhaps we should create a pastebin with these type of links categorized in a way we can reference to them in discussions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495218599 126218957,126222507,2017-05-19 18:32:00,">>126222259 I've already got a library of these on telegram. Just get the app and join the chat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495218720 126218957,126222511,2017-05-19 18:32:01,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1495218721 126218957,126222671,2017-05-19 18:33:17,">>126221445 I came",,Anonymous,IMG_0814.jpg,Y8/RESnKid4c/5FaZJptRg==,US,,1495218797 126218957,126222698,2017-05-19 18:33:32,">>126218957 I'm glad that the eastern Europeans have a good sense about subjects such as communism and anarchy. It's sad to think that this is likely only the case because so many of them suffered so much under what my leaders are now calling progress. Maybe then I can think of what is happening now in my country as an indicator that there is something good to look forward to in the future. God bless you all and let's look forward to restoring our ways of lives to the ways that they were intended to be lived by nature and by our ancestors.",,Anonymous,1491227462291.png,PT7LTE19cU1x/SSnjlrcJA==,CA,,1495218812 126218957,126222867,2017-05-19 18:34:54,>>126218957,,Anonymous,1494997706160.jpg,sGG0JmE7s1jVmfJ4+KiX8A==,HU,,1495218894 126218957,126223157,2017-05-19 18:37:25,">>126221445 The only issue I see with this is the violence against bums. Some homeless are vets and I don't think we should use violence against those that served our country.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495219045 126218957,126223161,2017-05-19 18:37:28,">>126222867 >Orwellian Socialist Goverment >Jewish Faggotry Goverment Nah, fuck both of those.",,Anonymous,1493762519867.png,B/dFT8TacZAqU27PSbBUtQ==,US,,1495219048 126218957,126223253,2017-05-19 18:38:18,">>126218957 is this whole helicopter ride thing an attempt at making libertarianism seem cool?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495219098 126218957,126223574,2017-05-19 18:41:05,">>126223253 A society where population threatens to ""seize the means of production"" starts riots, and destroys property is not a libertarian society. Yes, they must be removed. Helicopters would be preferable.",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(2).png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1495219265 126218957,126223810,2017-05-19 18:42:59,">>126223574 More like ""sees the memes in production"", am i right, fellas?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495219379 126218957,126223884,2017-05-19 18:43:42,">>126223157 Violence? just shoo them from public property. >Further: We must reject once and for all the left-libertarian view that all government-operated resources must be cesspools. We must try, short of ultimate privatization, to operate government facilities in a manner most conducive to a business, or to neighborhotod control. Rothbard is based. https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1495219422 126218957,126224053,2017-05-19 18:45:05,">>126223884 shit theres a typo in my image. heres a fixed one.",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1495219505 126218957,126224120,2017-05-19 18:45:35,">>126223884 Oh I'm fine with that then. As long as the vets get taken care of. Its a damn shame that our vets get neglected and left by the wayside by the government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495219535 126218957,126224485,2017-05-19 18:48:32,">>126224120 Of course. The vets are cool.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,/hOx9LzeSqpOhSbURKfIUw==,US,,1495219712 126218957,126224741,2017-05-19 18:50:47,,,Anonymous,1485703346145.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1495219847 126218957,126225060,2017-05-19 18:53:20,">>126218957 >mother duck waddles towards me with ducklings in tow >fails to realize i am the apex predator of all apex predators >fails to realize that my spacial requirements are FAR greater than a duck's >as such, the duck and ducklings have now entered into my domain >the non-aggression principal (NAP) has now been violated >you know what must happen next >i mount a short but quick retreat to a safer position >i whip out my super sized davy mccrockett (credits to ronald mcdonald's ballistics and missiles LLC) and take aim at the mother duck >i abstain from firing, realizing an opportunity has made itself known to me >i whip out my lenovosoft L769 smart phone and call in my private militia >with utmost speed, they move in and seize the ducklings from their mother >having expanded my ability to tend to my personal farm agriculture, i am now free to respond to the NAP violator >in addition to my mcnuke, i decide to rely on a single abercrombie and fitch brand chlorine trifluoride grenade as to land a test blow against this dastardly bitch duck >nail the increasingly aggressive duck right in her bitch face with my a&f ClF3 grenade >fire off the mcnuke i got in a happy meal and get the hell out of dodge >watch the fireworks from a distance >tfw libertarian paradise",,Anonymous,"stewie griffin = trump supporters, bottle of coffee creamer = liberal tears.jpg",FKyMFKLFL0c5ZZY58nOr+Q==,US,,1495220000 126218957,126225315,2017-05-19 18:55:13,">>126225060 I think you got the wrong thread friendo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495220113 126218957,126225996,2017-05-19 19:00:35,Bump,,Anonymous,1494102180784.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1495220435 126218957,126226183,2017-05-19 19:02:05,"In all honesty, how the fuck do we get rid of degeneracy and minorities out of western civilization? Unless a full on 1488 revolution occurs, things aren't going to easy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495220525 126218957,126226207,2017-05-19 19:02:17,">>126218957 Can anyone tell me what the fuck left libertarianism is? It sounds like an oxymoron. Is it just anarchism? My friend told me he was one but couldn't explain it coherently",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1495220537 126218957,126226502,2017-05-19 19:04:31,">>126226207 It is an oxymoron. You can't have communism without a government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495220671 126218957,126226520,2017-05-19 19:04:43,">>126226207 It's anything from geofags to communists. I don't believe it can be libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495220683 126218957,126226554,2017-05-19 19:05:01,"I working on a FAQ, if anyone wants to help me out. (questions are not set in stone, they may be ordered differently, edited, removed or replaced if you have some ideas) 1. What is libertarianism? 2. What is anarcho-capitalism 3. What in particular is 'right libertarianism'? 4. What are the differences between anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism? 5. What is a free market? 6. What is Austrian economics and what does that school of economic thought teach? 7. Why is free trade good? 8. Why do we advocate for privatisation? 9. Why should health care be privatised? 10. Does the USA have a private/free market healthcare system? 11. Why should government welfare be abolished? 12. Why should governments reject gun control? 13. Why are labour unions bad? 14. Why should education (at all which includes levels primary/elementary school, secondary/middle and high school, and tertiary level) be privatised? 15. What does free speech matter? 16. Why is the freedom of association important? 17. Why do you oppose taxation?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495220701 126218957,126226645,2017-05-19 19:05:44,">>126226554 I don't know how to seperate libertarianism and ancap (not my question) but im working on the ""what is ancap"" and ""what is right-libertarianism"" right now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495220744 126218957,126226831,2017-05-19 19:07:16,">>126226520 >>126226502 So it's just a meme for commies to sound smarter than they are? Figures",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1495220836 126218957,126226859,2017-05-19 19:07:30,">>126226554 We should probably add something about our stance on democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495220850 126218957,126227034,2017-05-19 19:08:52,">>126226207 >>126226502 WRONG! ANOTHER MISTAKE! Communism is an anarchist ideology. The whole endgame is to have a stateless society run by unions. This meme that communism requires a state betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the ideology. Socialism is the interim period until full Communism, whereby the revolutionaries take over the state and organize society along Marxist principles, eventually leading to a dissolution of the state, somehow. The fact that commies think this can happen shows how fundamentally fucking stupid they are on average.",,Anonymous,Witcher-3-Geralt-Bar.jpg.optimal.jpg,dex5GHmd/K1bB26RhTjY5w==,US,,1495220932 126218957,126227132,2017-05-19 19:09:48,"I just stole this from mises. 1. What is libertarianism? Libertarianism is a political philosophy that views respect for individual choice and individual liberty as the foundation of the ideal society, and therefore seeks to minimize or abolish the coercive actions of the State as that is the entity that is generally identified as the most powerful coercive force in society. >>126226859 yeah thats a good idea too",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-possible-for-a-dictator-to-govern-in-a-liberal-way-and-it-is-also-possible-for-friedrich-august-von-hayek-65-6-0643.jpg,uyU9xMwrUGxHEC3JmNW1tQ==,US,,1495220988 126218957,126227185,2017-05-19 19:10:14,">>126227034 Take your disgusting leftist drivel out of here.",,Anonymous,1494188569709.jpg,zrYAV32n3hiEIMXH6SlkZg==,US,,1495221014 126218957,126227261,2017-05-19 19:10:50,">>126227185 Forgive my autism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495221050 126218957,126227486,2017-05-19 19:12:33,">>126227034 So once the state is all encompassing it will for no reason at all give up all it's power and become the opposite type of government. Sounds reasonable",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1495221153 126218957,126227732,2017-05-19 19:14:29,"2. What is anarcho-capitalism? Anarcho-capitalism is a libertarian political philosophy that advocates the elimination of the state in favor of individual sovereignty in a free market. In an anarcho-capitalist society, law enforcement, courts, and all other security services would be provided by voluntarily-funded competitors such as private defense agencies rather than through taxation, and money would be privately and competitively provided in an open market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495221269 126218957,126227767,2017-05-19 19:14:42,">>126227486 Honestly I feel the same way about minarchists.",,Anonymous,16681829_1492405994120398_3324885753784332090_n.jpg,tpnQoNKRpjNyVVcRdrBZLA==,US,,1495221282 126218957,126228110,2017-05-19 19:17:34,">>126224741 I highly doubt that in an ancap system homosexuals for example couldn't survive as they can work just as hard and wont have children who require extra resources, resources which can ensure their survival to old age. Also I believe that an individual who totally refuses to deal with blacks or muslims would be at a disadvantage over one who will deal with them when it's profitable.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1495221454 126218957,126228298,2017-05-19 19:19:07,>not using the superior FAHR image,,Anonymous,FREE RIDES.jpg,wqvhVYBsmATA6KtATe70TA==,US,,1495221547 126218957,126228453,2017-05-19 19:20:34,">>126228298 Personally I prefer uncle Pinochets helicopter tours.",,Anonymous,1494090901516.jpg,rm3g/xGzJqqQn+TNRgGe5w==,US,,1495221634 126218957,126228548,2017-05-19 19:21:15,">>126228453 Huh, I could have sworn it was uncle pinochets helicopter tours.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495221675 126218957,126228599,2017-05-19 19:21:43,,,Anonymous,helicopter rides for all.webm,g+kqWqjka3ARLFlpIZfTNw==,CA,,1495221703 126218957,126228985,2017-05-19 19:25:09,">>126228599 >connection to server lost... attempting to reconnect...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495221909 126218957,126229140,2017-05-19 19:26:34,">>126228110 thats fine, live in the civicuck, faggot covenant. I'd choose civility and conservatism over profit. good luck thriving in the exiled states of degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495221994 126218957,126229306,2017-05-19 19:28:01,">>126219211 why is dapperton faggot tier? also who's the guy, bottom right based tier?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495222081 126218957,126229361,2017-05-19 19:28:25,">>126228985 i've got movement buffering strats while the server is down; check this shit out pham",,Anonymous,1428895726592.webm,OnUxu/DJvWs2UU/jjcgX2w==,CA,,1495222105 126218957,126229511,2017-05-19 19:29:40,"Praxeology is the study of those aspects of human action that can be grasped a priori; in other words, it is concerned with the conceptual analysis and logical implications of preference, choice, means-end schemes, and so forth. http://praxeology.net/praxeo.htm",,Anonymous,16142893_1474388819255449_5933399037086358620_n.jpg,ciwRLcNkQieFw3XLR/GVbA==,US,,1495222180 126218957,126229547,2017-05-19 19:29:58,So what's /LRG/'s thoughts on Frank Meyer and his fusionism philosophy?,,Anonymous,frank_meyer.jpg,Xl4QSLO2XJGsyh/hzSRO0w==,US,,1495222198 126218957,126230076,2017-05-19 19:34:22,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495222462 126218957,126230303,2017-05-19 19:36:15,">>126229547 glancing over the wiki page, it seems like a more moderate Paleolibertarianism. Social conservatism, Economic Liberalism. Paleolibertarian is the master race of /lrg/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495222575 126218957,126231189,2017-05-19 19:44:19,"3. What in particular is “Right-Libertarianism”? Right-Libertarianism, sometimes called Paleolibertarianism is the particular libertarian philosophy as espoused by Murray Rothbard, Hans Hermann Hoppe and Lew Rockwell. Adherents hold traditional Juedo-Christian beliefs on morality and oppose globalism, Marxism, socialism, multiculturalism, open borders and homosexuality. They are in favour of closed borders preferring ethnic nationalism over multiculturalism, and would otherwise be considered 'conservative'.",,Anonymous,1490023970296.jpg,eWoma1HUXvZPBvD8oG9VlA==,US,,1495223059 126218957,126231893,2017-05-19 19:50:26,">>126231189 >Judeo-Christian beliefs It has nothing to do with religion or spirituality.",,Anonymous,download.jpg,T7ssfTgSYLLj6GT9QnwQqw==,US,,1495223426 126218957,126232105,2017-05-19 19:52:12,">Juedo-Christian beliefs on morality. At least quote the context. no one is accusing you of being a jesus freak.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495223532 126218957,126232157,2017-05-19 19:52:45,">>126232105 ment to tag you. >>126231893",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495223565 126218957,126232513,2017-05-19 19:55:49,"I will make a master image, but I will make them one at a time first. Think the few suggested in an older thread are good enough to publish.",,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,8G1fm9Y0/xnxyU54Hl3mBA==,US,,1495223749 126218957,126233085,2017-05-19 20:00:56,,,Anonymous,AnarchoCapitalism.png,j5wbFkPBZ5wTXDso5Ejjxg==,US,,1495224056 126218957,126233726,2017-05-19 20:06:39,,,Anonymous,RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1495224399 126291711,126291711,2017-05-20 06:17:10,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Thay Guy T (An actual ""based black man"") is on Radical Agenda! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - REMOVE DEMOCRACY EDITION,Anonymous,Official Badge.png,jeBzGyuN3uysRJGm5WLomg==,US,,1495261030 126291711,126291807,2017-05-20 06:18:42,"FAQ is in the works. here are a few peices of it, there will be a master image when all is complete.",,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,8G1fm9Y0/xnxyU54Hl3mBA==,US,,1495261122 126291711,126291815,2017-05-20 06:18:50,,,Anonymous,AnarchoCapitalism.png,j5wbFkPBZ5wTXDso5Ejjxg==,US,,1495261130 126291711,126291825,2017-05-20 06:18:59,,,Anonymous,RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1495261139 126291711,126291841,2017-05-20 06:19:16,And now for propaganda.,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1495261156 126291711,126291869,2017-05-20 06:19:40,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1495261180 126291711,126291955,2017-05-20 06:21:02,,,Anonymous,blue (2).jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1495261262 126291711,126291967,2017-05-20 06:21:12,,,Anonymous,misc (6).jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,US,,1495261272 126291711,126291979,2017-05-20 06:21:24,,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495261284 126291711,126292398,2017-05-20 06:28:36,"""No miscegenation"" - That Guy T",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1495261716 126291711,126293071,2017-05-20 06:38:17,"Welcome newcomers, please enjoy some of our memes while you wait for the mods to let you into the_donald.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495262297 126291711,126293130,2017-05-20 06:39:15,,,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1495262355 126291711,126293567,2017-05-20 06:45:54,"Let us discriminate! Fuck anti-discrimination, abolish affirmative action!",,Anonymous,AnCap_Landlord.png,lv6tF0xgYlGukqt4Xyg3iA==,US,,1495262754 126291711,126293635,2017-05-20 06:46:59,">>126293567 this.",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1495262819 126291711,126293780,2017-05-20 06:49:11,Bump for best thread on /pol/,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495262951 126291711,126294137,2017-05-20 06:54:19,"NEETS who don't work, please devote some time to FINDING RON PAULS 1990s NEWSLETTER archive!. Be the hero /lrg/ needs!",,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,US,,1495263259 126291711,126294696,2017-05-20 07:01:48,Can we post AnCap memes ITT?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495263708 126291711,126294798,2017-05-20 07:03:12,">>126294696 Of course, just as long as they are above Reddit teir.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495263792 126291711,126295125,2017-05-20 07:07:28,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,/hOx9LzeSqpOhSbURKfIUw==,US,,1495264048 126291711,126295887,2017-05-20 07:17:29,Bump,,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1495264649 126291711,126296246,2017-05-20 07:22:21,">>126291711 How do one remove democracy as a whole? I mean you pretty much has to go through the politcal/democratic process first then remove it. But what can one do about democracy not rising again?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495264941 126291711,126296758,2017-05-20 07:29:01,">>126296246 Using the political process would be ideal. How would someone establish democracy over property owners rights in ancapistan? Socialist and cuckhold propaganda maybe, if you could get it into my covenant of which I will not tolerate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495265341 126291711,126297310,2017-05-20 07:36:41,">>126296246 This is a good question. First of all you have to understand democracy eventual leads to socialism which very quickly becomes tyrannical. To get to where we our now many peoples and groups worked relentlessly to lay the foundations for today's political climate. Socialists found it hard to penetrate conservative Christian Europe with their atheistic and communist ideology. So socialists took hold of the education system. Gradually socialists attacked the Church. Later on they forced integration, not merely repealing segregation. They gave women the vote. Began getting women into the work force. Began the sexual revolution and feminist movement. Later on they imported thousands upon thousands of immigrants with backwards cultures. People who are fundamentally different from the native population. They propped up a welfare state, made divorce easy and gave out welfare to anyone. They grew the scope of government and broke down the family. Instilled people with evolution and atheism and multiculturalism. They destroyed the family and pushed homosexuality and now transgenderism. Everything to disrupt the natural order. Socialists monetize conflict and they sow the seeds for conflict. Racism wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a multi-racial society. People would be more active in their community if everybody was of the same ethnicity and shared a similar language and religion. They encouraged hedonism by exposing them to moral relativism in school and sex ed. They got the mothers out of the work place by indoctrinating them via the media and school system. They taught us that two men can make a family. An idea so disgusting and opposed to nature and reality. Socialists create the problem they want to solve. That's why government intervention begets more intervention. 1/2",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495265801 126291711,126297352,2017-05-20 07:37:03,"Without a state to provide a standard currency, how would money work in an ancap society? Each corporation would have to provide their own money that the others could just not accept. This would cuck everyone. Pic unrelated.",,Anonymous,640.jpg,0Y0w7P6gWGbSiywTfpvN1g==,US,,1495265823 126291711,126297470,2017-05-20 07:38:39,">>126297310 2/2 The solution thus is, education (either privatizing the school system or a voucher system where the state can no longer dictate the curriculum), pushing a commodity based currency, opposing immigration, encouraging women to rear the children and preferably home school, encouraging conservative values, promoting Christianity and unwinding the state. But ultimately by birthing more children raised by people who prize liberty and not handing over to the state or letting them be influenced by them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495265919 126291711,126297533,2017-05-20 07:39:34,">>126297352 A commodity based standard. Based on something like gold or silver, or anything of value. Banks would issue banknotes and people would trade with them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495265974 126291711,126297577,2017-05-20 07:40:18,">>126297352 Competitive banking my dude, like we kinda have globally. The best currency is used, kinda like the way USD is accepted outside the states because of it's value.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495266018 126291711,126297822,2017-05-20 07:44:06,">>126296758 >, if you could get it into my covenant of which I will not tolerate. What does Hoppe teach in this regard? What does he mean by physical removal. Is he saying that in a commune if a resident is promoting communism that they must be evicted from the commune or what? Does that mean forcibly. How would that occur?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495266246 126291711,126298075,2017-05-20 07:47:34,Most of you are workers so why support the lbr? It's not in your self interest,,Anonymous,7509f906958e286ced3eff24e45d4db899fd86863a310e0815ad4bcabd6a464d.jpg,MZ1KGWBZB1bWnIB3V4iwJA==,GB,,1495266454 126291711,126298161,2017-05-20 07:48:46,">>126297533 >>126297577 Still if corporations are in charge then they choose what currency they accept. In addition to no minimum wage it will cuck everyone but big business owners",,Anonymous,1482080730365.png,kJ3jFQ1zYmrf4jCvUYcanw==,US,,1495266526 126291711,126298379,2017-05-20 07:51:44,">>126297310 >Later on they imported thousands upon thousands of immigrants with backwards cultures No my friend that's what capitalists did for cheap labour",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495266704 126291711,126298386,2017-05-20 07:51:49,">>126298161 > Still if corporations are in charge then they choose what currency they accept. Yes. But corporations are owned by many people. People who hire people to run the corporation and can be fired or sued if they act in ways that affect the corporation's profit. Also why would someone open a business with the notion in mind that they are going to reject the most popular form of currency, that is a gold based one. It's like me flying to Denmark and opening a hot dog stand but all accepting Aussie dollars. > In addition to no minimum wage it will cuck everyone but big business owners You've made an assertion but no argument. What are you reasons for believing this?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495266709 126291711,126298446,2017-05-20 07:52:24,">>126298379 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html Where's the evidence for that claim?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495266744 126291711,126298475,2017-05-20 07:52:53,">>126298075 > Most of you are workers so why support the lbr? What is the lbr?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495266773 126291711,126298561,2017-05-20 07:54:05,">>126298446 >labour >socialist They are social democrats >evidence Because more people to labour for cheaper = more profits and it's what capitalists do if you've looked at history",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495266845 126291711,126298610,2017-05-20 07:54:40,">>126298475 libertarian right",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495266880 126291711,126298619,2017-05-20 07:54:50,">>126297822 He compares physical removal to excommunication. Ostracization mostly, but in a real world I'd imagine people might actually use force to remove such vilified outcasts. I myself embrace the meme tho, helicopters and all. I think there's a Libertarian case for it. A society where a population threatens to "" seize the means of production"" , starts, riots, and destroys property is not a libertarian society. They have to be removed much like the state-by any means necessary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495266890 126291711,126298660,2017-05-20 07:55:32,">>126298075 Fuck that leftist meme, capitalism favors the middle class.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495266932 126291711,126298713,2017-05-20 07:56:22,">>126298660 No it favours the corporation's not small businesses",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495266982 126291711,126298775,2017-05-20 07:57:03,">>126297533 >A commodity based standard. Based on something like gold or silver, or anything of value. How will that work with international trade ? Or scale with population size ? Or deal with inflation/deflation/economic collapse? It kinda just sounds like a way to get assfucked by global markets with stronger economies.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495267023 126291711,126298845,2017-05-20 07:58:00,">>126298610 You said > Most of you are workers so why support the lbr? It's not in your self interest You didn't give any reasons to suggest why it's not in the self interest of workers. How do you expect to be taken seriously? >>126298561 > Because more people to labour for cheaper = more profits and it's what capitalists do if you've looked at history The Labour party is left leaning and founded on socialist principles like social justice and wealth redistribution. Also you said it was capitalists who import third world immigrants. Where's the evidence behind this conspiracy? >>126298619 Thanks for the explanation",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495267080 126291711,126299062,2017-05-20 08:00:53,">>126298713 How so? There's no regulations/subsidization to protect corporate monopolies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495267253 126291711,126299207,2017-05-20 08:02:46,">>126298775 > How will that work with international trade ? Since banks will have gold or silver reserves and the bank notes will be titles of ownership to that gold people can withdraw the gold and deposit it in a local bank. I imagine that banks will cooperate with each other to make it easier for their customers. > Or scale with population size ? Why would that be an issue? Different commodities could be used in lieu of gold and silver, and of course more gold could be discovered. > Or deal with inflation/deflation/economic collapse? These questions although very good and sensible merit a better treatment. https://mises.org/library/10-gold-standard-theory-and-myth >>126298713 Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495267366 126291711,126299316,2017-05-20 08:04:11,">>126298386 The U.S. dollar was more valuable than the ruble, but there were more rubles. The corporation would make more profits on the U.S. dollar and reject the ruble. Without a minimum wage corporations could freely cuck employees in the name of profits.",,Anonymous,GLYC2Uk_d.jpg,Ag94PRU0f170orOov+9PXg==,US,,1495267451 126291711,126299528,2017-05-20 08:06:44,">>126299207 Privately owned anything won't cooperate its a competitive market",,Anonymous,2ba1ce72df895c3295b50ea0dcf23a113ebe3acac66d8e54996fe17b5e249aa7_1.jpg,lwrvRXsVkd71YfQIoXDv2A==,US,,1495267604 126291711,126299761,2017-05-20 08:10:01,First for based Akinator,,Anonymous,based akinator.png,1dw7NbqqDJX1YmhQEM26Xg==,PT,,1495267801 126291711,126299775,2017-05-20 08:10:11,">>126299316 > The U.S. dollar was more valuable than the ruble, but there were more rubles. The corporation would make more profits on the U.S. dollar and reject the ruble. I don't understand what you are saying. A company could price a certain product at say $10 dollars and then equivalent value in rubles. > Without a minimum wage corporations could freely cuck employees in the name of profits. Go re-read what I said. You've repeated yourself. You really make it hard for anyone to take you seriously. >>126299528 You have this habit of asserting something but not arguing your point. Maybe you're an only child and so your parents treated you like a little prince. Just because you say something is so, doesn't make it so. What are you reasons for believing that?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495267811 126291711,126299912,2017-05-20 08:12:08,">>126293567 fucking based Kent man",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495267928 126291711,126300472,2017-05-20 08:20:14,">>126299207 >Since banks will have gold or silver reserves ... Yeah i get your solution to local trade, but in international trade you currency essentially has to be tied to both the gold standard/your chosen precious object standard and an international currency to trade other countries with. And that wont work if your local price of ""gold"" is different to the global price of ""gold"". At best your looking at a currency that regularly swings a few percent a day, that deters foreign interests and requires an economy that is permanently in recession/deflation (As the price of gold rises). That doesn't seem like a great idea, just putting it out there. >Why would that be an issue? Im assuming your going to be using coins/notes/currency that at lest partially contains the ""gold"", as that is usually what ancaps/goldbugs say when advocating for gold standards. For a significantly large population your going to be dividing the gold into such small amounts that measurement would become impractical (your looking at like 0.025 grams per dollar at current global prices, getting to the nearest 10 cents or even 50 cents would require expensive scientific scales) If you mean simply a gold-backed currency how would you ensure people would have adequate access to their gold should they want to withdraw it ? Im not sure people would be very happy if their savings were rounded up or down a few thousand because the bank didn't have the equipment to adequately measure their gold withdraw. Furthermore how would you procure all this gold ? I know it sounds a bit silly, but at the moment, all gold that has been mined is currently in use in some form or another, collecting enough gold to create a gold-backed currency with a somewhat reasonable market cap would be a colossal task, one i don't think is reasonably possible. -cont",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495268414 126291711,126300683,2017-05-20 08:23:17,">>126291825 How is this Libertarianism?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495268597 126291711,126301044,2017-05-20 08:28:03,">>126300472 > but in international trade you currency essentially has to be tied to both the gold standard/your chosen precious object standard and an international currency to trade other countries with There wouldn't be one currency. One bank might issues whereby $1 is worth 1/1000 ounce of silver. $10 1/100, $100 1/10, $1000 1 oz of silver. Other banks might offer $2 1/1000 ounce of silver. That's up to them. > And that wont work if your local price of ""gold"" is different to the global price of ""gold"". Why not? Price of gold? Currencies would be based on gold. > Im assuming your going to be using coins/notes/currency that at lest partially contains the ""gold"", as that is usually what ancaps/goldbugs say when advocating for gold standards. Maybe in the case of the coins but the notes might be cotton or some synthetic material. > For a significantly large population your going to be dividing the gold into such small amounts that measurement would become impractical (your looking at like 0.025 grams per dollar at current global prices, getting to the nearest 10 cents or even 50 cents would require expensive scientific scales) Again, people could use silver, or other metals. Why would this be impractical? Especially if banks mint their own money. > If you mean simply a gold-backed currency how would you ensure people would have adequate access to their gold should they want to withdraw it ? That would be the banks problem. > Furthermore how would you procure all this gold ? People would deposit their gold at the bank for safe keeping in exchange for notes or they have record in their account electronically. > I know it sounds a bit silly, but at the moment, all gold that has been mined is currently in use in some form or another, Well the owners of the gold would way it up. Do we continue to use the gold as we are now, could we use a substitute and liquidate our gold? It's up to them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495268883 126291711,126301085,2017-05-20 08:28:35,">>126300683 How is it not libertarian? There's no speak of state enforcing such morality on you if you don't want to abide by conservative values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495268915 126291711,126301093,2017-05-20 08:28:39,">>126299207 >https://mises.org/library/10-gold-standard-theory-and-myth Not to be a cunt here m8, but im not about to listen to 90 mins of shilling for a viewpoint for a thread that will probably be gone in like 30 mins. If you could summarize the general points or point me towards a written source that i can peruse at my own leisure that would be fantastic.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495268919 126291711,126301324,2017-05-20 08:31:40,">>126291711 SPOOKS",,Anonymous,file.jpg,msF7MHcfs5XQfr7i0L/rRg==,IT,,1495269100 126291711,126301407,2017-05-20 08:32:45,">>126301085 But what's the point of holding such values if they aren't enforced? I don't agree with globalism and multiculturalism either but laws have to be implemented to prevent them",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495269165 126291711,126301563,2017-05-20 08:34:39,">>126301093 I am not too well versed to give you an adequate response. Sorry. I am enjoying your questions however I wouldn't know how to respond. A gold standard is not susceptible to inflation because a bank that is issuing more titles of ownership (bank notes) in disproportionate amount to the gold they have would be sued and out of business soon. Competition in the market of money would also make this an unprofitable endeavor. Deflation isn't a big issue. Prices go down for both labour and commodities. The market adjust itself. Inflation when the US had a gold standard only ever reached 1 to 2%. Contrast that to today's economy where our targets are at 5%.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495269279 126291711,126301693,2017-05-20 08:36:28,">>126301407 > I don't agree with globalism and multiculturalism either but laws have to be implemented to prevent them They don't. Since discrimination wouldn't be illegal. People could begin to segregate based on ideology, race and religion. Thus communes would form where residents sign contracts where they swear to not sell to certain people. All of this is done voluntarily. Don't conflate anarchy with absolute lawlessness.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495269388 126291711,126301775,2017-05-20 08:37:28,">>126301407 PaleoLibertarians like Rothbard and Hoppe are Anarcho Capitalists, they advocate for a system of private law compatible with Libertarianism. In short, you form a private community that prohibits homosexuality. Your free to leave if you don't like it. Any you're subject to expulsion if you defy the rules of the covenant community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495269448 126291711,126301898,2017-05-20 08:39:00,">>126301775 Please excuse my shit typos, I'm phoneposting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495269540 126291711,126301988,2017-05-20 08:40:13,">>126301407 enforcing is a coercitive action therefore leading to a violent response",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1495269613 126291711,126302094,2017-05-20 08:41:37,"Haven't been on /pol/ in quite some time and I must say, I like this thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495269697 126291711,126302120,2017-05-20 08:41:58,">>126301988 Unless you've made a contractual agreement abide by such rules.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495269718 126291711,126302188,2017-05-20 08:42:39,">>126298075 Oh look it's a marxist who's concept of ""interests"" does not extend beyond: ""give me free shit, consequences be damned"" congratz, you have the mindset of a 4 year old",,Anonymous,1490665524276.png,HPdE4BQ8iIR/5TEwSbcgSg==,NL,,1495269759 126291711,126302566,2017-05-20 08:47:32,Bumping the best general,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495270052 126291711,126302855,2017-05-20 08:51:12,">>126301044 >One bank might issues whereby $1 ... With no standardization of currency does that not cause issues with payment ? Especially since the banks could arbitrarily increase/decrease the dollar/silver ratio at whim, and would it not cause confusion when $1 =$5 but also = $3.42. It sounds like a needlessly complex version of a basic bartering economy. Also whats stopping someone from opening a bank with no ""gold"" backing, or severely insufficient ""gold"" backing and start handing out more certificates than they have on hand. Would you not need a governing body to regulate this ? And what is in place to keep the banks honest (please don't say the customers, everyone thought banks had adequate cash before every great bank run) . >Why not? Price of gold? Currencies would be based on gold. No, yeah i get that. Your currency is based on gold, but other countries currencies are not. To trade internationally you would either be shipping gold world-wide for national trade or need to convert it into a currency that is not based on gold. If you expect your banks to do this conversion for you, they will do so at a cost making your currency not based on the price of gold, but the price of gold and the price of their services. And given that the banks are private entities with little to no oversight they can bounce the value of your currency around like the basketball in a globetrotters match. And times that by a few hundred as each bank, has the ability to issue their own currency. With the added swings of gold prices daily. Its a very unstable solution and instability reduces investment due to increased risk. >Again, people could use silver... You can use anything you want, the issue is that among any significant sized population division of said materials will be impractical at best due to the exact measures reacquired. If your using a high-value metal such as gold, divisions would be impractically small, especially if you currency/the",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495270272 126291711,126303598,2017-05-20 08:59:57,">>126302120 Yes, but the state never ask",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1495270797 126291711,126303799,2017-05-20 09:02:19,">>126303598 I agree with you there, I was referring to a private contractual agreement. I'm not talking about ""muh social contract""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495270939 126291711,126304655,2017-05-20 09:09:59,">>126301044 >>126302855 price of gold increases as you would be looking at measurements that required sub nano-gram accuracy. And if you use less valuable metals storage becomes an issue as does damage to them while in storage, market caps, supplying and sourcing the metals etc. I mean hell, in silver alone with the meager amounts i have in savings, i could fill half a room with 1kg silver bullion. >Especially if banks mint their own money. This seems like it is essentially institutionalizing corruption. You are allowing them to both control production of a currency and set the ""value"" of it. I dont mean to be rude, but i don't see how any sane individual would ever invest or trust the money of these banks that essentially run off the ""trust us, we probably wont destroy your savings"" and little to no oversight. >That would be the banks problem. It would be the people's problem immediately if there was nothing to withdraw. If a large bank collapses you essentially have a large population of your people now penniless, hungry and pissed off. That is how almost every revolution/insurgency/civil war in the last 3000 years has started. >People would deposit their gold at the bank for safe keeping in exchange for notes or they have record in their account electronically. This would require the people to procure a sizable chunk of gold in the first place, or conversion from other currencies to start the trend of a gold backed currency. the retail price of gold is far higher than market prices so people ""starting"" the gold backed currency trend would be be losing a significant portion of their savings immediately by converting. It's basically assfucking the people you need to start this. >Well the owners of the gold would way it up I think you mis-understand. There is already a global supply/demand for gold that is sitting at a rough equilibrium, with most of the gold existing currently in the form of jewelry and electronics.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495271399 126291711,126305133,2017-05-20 09:16:06,"How could anyone think Keynes was correct? >People do not invest if they think that they are not going to get a return, so the State has to take their money and invest them forcefully. Why the fuck should an investment turn magically good just because the State did it? >It does not matter if something is useful or not, just throw around paper money so those who received will be able to spend them and the economy runs once again wtf I hate working now! just start up the press senpai",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1495271766 126291711,126305451,2017-05-20 09:20:08,">>126301044 >>126304655 Having several million people requiring gold for basic day to day purchases and economic activity essentially drives the demand for gold way up. This would help increase your market cap (that would still be limited by gold/standard reserves, and that is an extremely poor idea on a global scale as it makes you unable to respond to the financial climate, your economy's strength and puts you at the mercy of gold prices that have been historically highly manipulated) but it would basically make your country completely unstable due to the erratic supply/demand your country would require. If a mining company shuts down, trade is impaired or any countries decide to put some political pressure on your country by buying/selling gold you are basically shafted. Plus having something that is traded on the market like gold is just generally a bad idea, you essentially have an economy that is in permanent deflation due to the historic unstopped rising of of metal prices.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495272008 126291711,126306180,2017-05-20 09:28:56,"Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years, so in order to fill this void in my being I need to exert my internal problems onto other human beings by participating in violence and slavery called ""government"" because I care. I actually care about people so much I think they should be required by gun point to help fund roads! So they can get to work of course... I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, and drugs. Why worry about the 800,000 children missing each year in the USA when you can't have roads??? Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care MY roads anyway. I've never seen a pothole in my life! Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,aclEqmQcWEnFmg9gjgBH8Q==,US,,1495272536 126291711,126306436,2017-05-20 09:32:02,Bumperoni,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495272722 126291711,126307299,2017-05-20 09:42:09,,,Anonymous,Augusto_Pinochet_trace.png,mhHYw4OjxuiWKpJOHF9+Ww==,US,,1495273329 126291711,126308610,2017-05-20 09:57:16,,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,US,,1495274236 126291711,126309693,2017-05-20 10:10:46,">>126307299 pepe blepe lepe",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495275046 126291711,126309815,2017-05-20 10:12:05,">>126309693 AnCap Andy is /ourguy/ as fuck.",,Anonymous,ancap_andy_commies_matt_furie.png,NN7furIBj4aVxZ0usDFpFQ==,US,,1495275125 126291711,126310246,2017-05-20 10:16:44,bump,,Anonymous,17362638_1284682221600094_9017226756549738829_n.jpg,p2h+m8Lb0c/ellC8zCAe3g==,BR,,1495275404 126291711,126311609,2017-05-20 10:32:06,,,Anonymous,hippity-hoppity-get-the-fuck-off-my-property-16613836.png,W6BZ1ezbkGYbnBD2hf0AWw==,GB,,1495276326 126291711,126311640,2017-05-20 10:32:22,,,Anonymous,1486258936401.jpg,WcZ0TAoWqb+0VprInC2z9g==,GB,,1495276342 126291711,126311673,2017-05-20 10:32:40,,,Anonymous,hippity-hoppity-cant-afford-property-16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,GB,,1495276360 126291711,126311841,2017-05-20 10:34:29,">>126297310 This is all part of ((their)) plan init?",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1495276469 126291711,126311865,2017-05-20 10:34:50,,,Anonymous,1491602329012.png,Wn3qPwZ1llzuwwvsIDp+HA==,BR,,1495276490 126291711,126312042,2017-05-20 10:36:45,"Hey you guys, it's me Jeffrey. I'm just checking in on you, making sure you all keep it multicultural and don't spread any hatespeech. Libertarianism is inclusive!",,Anonymous,TuckerTime.jpg,ziP/Tie0c6zMSx3e9hg31Q==,US,,1495276605 126291711,126312273,2017-05-20 10:39:07,">>126311865 Is that spocks daughter? Her nose needs a bit of a treading tbqh",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495276747 126291711,126312389,2017-05-20 10:40:21,">>126312273 can't you read her shirt? it says don't tread on her",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495276821 126291711,126312473,2017-05-20 10:41:23,">>126311865 Wont tread on her - but I'll rape her! That's libertarianism - it KILLS feminism. That's the point :D",,Anonymous,CommandoBar.jpg,3NhVs08wmWcT3s3wbCBsWw==,AU,,1495276883 126291711,126312545,2017-05-20 10:42:07,">>126312042 We're keepin' it Kosher, Cucker! :^)",,Anonymous,Libertarian Fascism.png,pWaQLQhGrXwbFaG/dEvBfg==,AU,,1495276927 126291711,126313536,2017-05-20 10:52:11,Bump,,Anonymous,hqdefault (5).jpg,3YkCgmrKJjypZnj3bOCxvA==,GB,,1495277531 126291711,126315092,2017-05-20 11:07:58,,,Anonymous,81801907_DC84_4D9B_8114_460F4FB6B14E_3416_00001038B39163DD_tmp.jpg,yCfnjOgEQjmoHPGPrT1rug==,US,,1495278478 126318674,126318674,2017-05-20 11:42:52,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), (((Friedman))), Pinochet, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - MI GENERAL EDITION,Anonymous,hoppe pol logo.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,SK,,1495280572 126318674,126318741,2017-05-20 11:43:38,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,libertarian masterpost.png,N1a+QThhl0g8UaoaMc+JEw==,SK,,1495280618 126318674,126318803,2017-05-20 11:44:12,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,reading list lrg.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,SK,,1495280652 126318674,126318890,2017-05-20 11:45:09,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T",,Anonymous,hoppe costanza.png,pIgAdJvpGAMA/mdAZbYiDw==,SK,,1495280709 126318674,126319166,2017-05-20 11:47:54,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4 >I Need a Pinochet - youtube com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1495280874 126318674,126319242,2017-05-20 11:48:42,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,free ride left side.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,SK,,1495280922 126318674,126319632,2017-05-20 11:52:29,bump,,Anonymous,1491440136868.jpg,wqvhVYBsmATA6KtATe70TA==,US,,1495281149 126318674,126319907,2017-05-20 11:55:17,">>126318674 Wassap Slovakia my dude! Love the paste.",,Anonymous,hippity_hoppity_cant_afford_property_16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,US,,1495281317 126318674,126320343,2017-05-20 11:59:23,">>126319907 Thanks, put it together yesterday, added the T Radical Agenda to it today.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495281563 126318674,126320636,2017-05-20 12:02:28,">>126318674 No one gives a shit about your boomercuck ideology, you got us into this mess. Hail our People! Hail Victory! dailystormer.com",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1495281748 126318674,126320756,2017-05-20 12:03:35,">>126320343 I laughed my ass off at Cantwells face when T said 'I'm a real Libertarian in the sense that I don't see race'",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495281815 126318674,126321346,2017-05-20 12:09:20,Also T used my Anarcho fascism oc for his video. Pretty cool.,,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1495282160 126318674,126322641,2017-05-20 12:22:20,">>126321346 DOES HE LURK?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495282940 126318674,126322691,2017-05-20 12:22:52,">>126320756 Yeah that was chuckle-worthy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495282972 126318674,126322786,2017-05-20 12:23:43,">>126320636 >boomers >libertarian boi Besides, Anglin endorsed Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495283023 126318674,126323083,2017-05-20 12:26:51,">>126322641 He imagine he does since he's not a cuck, he also had my hoppefrog in the video both of which I've seen posted outside of /pol/ so there's chance he got it from somewhere else.",,Anonymous,HOPPE_0.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1495283211 126318674,126323178,2017-05-20 12:27:56,DON'T BE A LEFTIST,,Anonymous,18447272_1460004984037832_7565152753888222545_n.jpg,dn1nbr0gzaBJbIUsF/op3A==,US,,1495283276 126318674,126323193,2017-05-20 12:28:09,">>126323083 Did he post any of our memes or Hoppewave videos?",,Anonymous,don-t-tread-on-me-confederate-flag-3-x-5-1.jpg,R5UhtC+lZRG9OGE1kSQzXw==,PT,,1495283289 126318674,126323409,2017-05-20 12:30:41,">>126323193 Just my artwork as far as I know.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495283441 126318674,126323927,2017-05-20 12:35:44,">>126323409 I see. I'm watching the video right now, he seems like a good guy.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495283744 126318674,126324357,2017-05-20 12:39:53,">>126323927 Yeah he's pretty cool, he started off as an open borders guy and started drifting farther and farther right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495283993 126318674,126324541,2017-05-20 12:41:39,Any good literature on the ethics of libertarianism?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495284099 126318674,126324793,2017-05-20 12:44:02,">>126324541 The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by HHH.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495284242 126318674,126324974,2017-05-20 12:45:55,"Did you folks see my faq bits? I didn't write them myself, I crowdsourced some definitions.",,Anonymous,RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1495284355 126318674,126324998,2017-05-20 12:46:07,,,Anonymous,AnarchoCapitalism.png,j5wbFkPBZ5wTXDso5Ejjxg==,US,,1495284367 126318674,126325010,2017-05-20 12:46:11,"Anarcho-capitalism is not anarchism and has nothing to do with the anarchist movement. 'Anarcho'-Capitalism is an oxymoron and has nothing to do with anarchism. It is better called neo-feudalism. >Introduction to Anarchism https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf >The Anarchist FAQ http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA >Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism? http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF >Anarcho-'Capitalism' is impossible. https://c4ss.org/content/4043 >What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen >The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread >Markets not capitalism http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf",,Anonymous,1133425346456.png,RYaT4fFYY+vx3eFWKAPOeg==,GB,,1495284371 126318674,126325016,2017-05-20 12:46:15,,,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,8G1fm9Y0/xnxyU54Hl3mBA==,US,,1495284375 126318674,126325109,2017-05-20 12:47:11,">>126325010 Egalitarianism is a false god, and a garbage philosophy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495284431 126318674,126325189,2017-05-20 12:47:59,">>126324974 The ""bloc"" formatting is bretty awful tbhfam. Otherwise it's aight.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495284479 126318674,126325313,2017-05-20 12:49:04,">>126325010 That has to be one of the most retarded idealogies. >Anarcho Communism >When you believe in complete state control and authoritarianism >b-but it can be anarchist too",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495284544 126318674,126325319,2017-05-20 12:49:06,">>126325010 You're just mad cause since Kyle, you no longer have the balls to attack us.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495284546 126318674,126325476,2017-05-20 12:50:31,">>126324357 Glad to see Rothbardian/Hoppean libertarianism is starting to gain traction. Hopefully we'll influence SFL and the other cucked libertarian organizations.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495284631 126318674,126325531,2017-05-20 12:50:58,">>126325189 Lol I don't know how else to format it. I'll try and change it up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495284658 126318674,126325596,2017-05-20 12:51:24,>>126325016,,Anonymous,112435346467.png,0FkggHCRfAOLuKiERj1kiA==,GB,,1495284684 126318674,126325709,2017-05-20 12:52:27,">>126325596 Oh, and I forgot to post this.",,Anonymous,ancom hypocrisy.png,kkob3H9NTWlOtQmF8w5Cnw==,SK,,1495284747 126318674,126325782,2017-05-20 12:53:18,">>126325476 I gotta confirmation that HSM is NOT a /pol/ack. I wanna make a jewbook account and internet bully him to make an appearance. Who is sfl?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495284798 126318674,126326000,2017-05-20 12:55:17,">>126318674 >right wing libertarian Are you implying there are left wing libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1495284917 126318674,126326055,2017-05-20 12:55:45,">>126325709 There are many schools of anarchism, 'anarcho'-capitalism isn't one of them. If you like the idea of markets then look into mutualism or left-wing market anarchism.",,Anonymous,11323546465465.png,BB3g3qXql0AUxEfoFrCYrA==,GB,,1495284945 126318674,126326126,2017-05-20 12:56:26,">>126325782 Students for Liberty. Apparently back in 2015 some fags from it interrupted a Ron Paul speech, took his mic and read a ""manifesto"" whose purpose was to announce a 2nd wave libertarianism that renounced the racism, sexism, bigotry and all other -isms from the first one. Those fucking faggots. I would really, really like if HSM shared the Hoppewave videos.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495284986 126318674,126326209,2017-05-20 12:57:12,">>126326126 Lol, we'll get to him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495285032 126318674,126326424,2017-05-20 12:59:16,">>126326209 Kek, godspeed",,Anonymous,hoppe secessionism.png,oIrCczKEYERrjVyeunvHKg==,PT,,1495285156 126318674,126326530,2017-05-20 13:00:23,">>126318803 why don't we use this one as the reading list pic?",,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1495285223 126318674,126326601,2017-05-20 13:01:09,">>126326126 Also >2nd wave Libertarianism DEGENERATE AS FUCK.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495285269 126318674,126326785,2017-05-20 13:02:54,">>126326530 >Agorist primer You do realise that Agorism is left-libertarian, and than Konkin called himself a left-Rothbardian.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495285374 126318674,126327892,2017-05-20 13:13:42,"I've been trolling through 8chs /liberty/ they know of us, and quite a few hate us. That's pretty cool. My review of /liberty/ is that it's semi-cucked. They unironically hate us for being ""Nazis"" but some are pretty cool, like Hoppe an stuff. But the most cucked part is banning of Pinochet apologism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495286022 126318674,126327904,2017-05-20 13:13:46,"Reading the economics and ethics of private property right now. A great book with some very interesting and eye opening assessments of statism under democracy and (((liberalism)))",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495286026 126318674,126328049,2017-05-20 13:15:15,">>126326000 They call themselves libertarians, but they'll still get the airborne oven.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495286115 126318674,126328214,2017-05-20 13:16:56,">>126328049 The word libertarian was coined by socialists and was universally used to describe anarcho-communism until Rothbard stole it in the 60's. Rothbard's influences from the 19th century individualist anarchist scene were all left-libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495286216 126318674,126328496,2017-05-20 13:19:43,">>126328049 >Airborne oven That's why Slovakia is the man.",,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1495286383 126318674,126328536,2017-05-20 13:20:05,">>126326055 Workers can buy the machinery and simply refuse to work otherwise. That can also be done today. The fact that organisation is easier in a pseudo-autocratic production system (a.k.a. boss who gets the profit or loss) than in a pseudo-democratic production system (a.k.a. about half of workers in disagreement with the other half about what should be done with the profit or loss) is a fact that leftists seem to conveniently ignore.",,Anonymous,rothbard exploitation.jpg,AiNOwdl2xEM1almb7MlI3A==,SK,,1495286405 126318674,126328562,2017-05-20 13:20:20,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo,,Anonymous,hoppe masses.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,PT,,1495286420 126318674,126328601,2017-05-20 13:20:42,">>126326785 you're right, but I do not see that as a sole reason to dismiss the whole image when the reading order still bears merit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495286442 126318674,126328667,2017-05-20 13:21:21,">>126325782 He shills his memes on /pol/ according to even himself.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495286481 126318674,126328754,2017-05-20 13:22:09,">>126328049 >airborne oven perfect",,Anonymous,1494106194804.png,Z1B892IcGCKJouzZODOx8Q==,US,,1495286529 126318674,126328790,2017-05-20 13:22:27,">>126326530 Didn't have it downloaded, many thanks.",,Anonymous,lrg full.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,SK,,1495286547 126318674,126328834,2017-05-20 13:22:55,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1495286575 126318674,126328859,2017-05-20 13:23:14,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1495286594 126318674,126328870,2017-05-20 13:23:26,">>126328667 That's what I thought too, someone asked him about /pol/. And posted a screenshot of him saying ""/pol/ is too we woke for me"" now I have to get to the bottom of this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495286606 126318674,126328887,2017-05-20 13:23:34,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1495286614 126318674,126328980,2017-05-20 13:24:33,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1495286673 126318674,126329011,2017-05-20 13:24:52,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 5.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,PT,,1495286692 126318674,126329053,2017-05-20 13:25:12,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 6.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,PT,,1495286712 126318674,126329093,2017-05-20 13:25:31,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 7.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1495286731 126318674,126329120,2017-05-20 13:25:45,">>126327892 Really? Shieeet. They even have A FUCKING COMMIE FLAG as an option, so... Degenerate. What is it with 8pol and retardation? Even the NatSocs, while I understand Enoch's baggage, should not have tried to undermine a movement that is helping them and their people. Of course, the dox failed and Enoch and TRS is more successful than ever. Purity spirallers BTFO.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495286745 126318674,126329139,2017-05-20 13:25:53,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 8.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,PT,,1495286753 126318674,126329191,2017-05-20 13:26:26,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1495286786 126318674,126329204,2017-05-20 13:26:32,">>126328214 And you stole ""liberal"" from us. That's intellectual property a.k.a. not a real thing. I bet you think Stirner was a lefty.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495286792 126318674,126329238,2017-05-20 13:26:50,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1495286810 126318674,126329257,2017-05-20 13:27:03,">>126328496 Stop posting that quote, dude. I feel too flattered.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495286823 126318674,126329265,2017-05-20 13:27:07,">>126327892 >calling 8ch users cucked when you're still using a site with moderation more compromised than reddit [spoiler:lit]go ahead and ban me mods, I don't care[/spoiler:lit]",,Anonymous,5d30a22903e0bd44592f3c18026fe07bb84a63bff9e04eda11399801e0477d31.png,Vp6PhvfpQ97jQpuM24Kc4A==,US,,1495286827 126318674,126329273,2017-05-20 13:27:10,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1495286830 126318674,126329316,2017-05-20 13:27:30,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1495286850 126318674,126329348,2017-05-20 13:27:49,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1495286869 126318674,126329444,2017-05-20 13:28:34,,,Anonymous,hoppewave 2.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,PT,,1495286914 126318674,126329486,2017-05-20 13:28:57,,,Anonymous,14983749875.jpg,6I7xpuByPJobs3sfGxqWSw==,CA,,1495286937 126318674,126329494,2017-05-20 13:29:07,">>126328496 >>126329257 You're the guy who made the full /lrg/ lineup of influences, aren't you? Draw a helicopter piloted by the Hoppean Snake stuffed full of ancomballs and a chain holding an oven hanging from it, flying over Ancapistan. That'd be a nice thing to hang on a wall.",,Anonymous,hoppe democrats quote.jpg,IKGvoP25fTeU/Ur0k6EZjw==,SK,,1495286947 126318674,126329600,2017-05-20 13:30:04,,,Anonymous,warning.jpg,DDyjNbMamup3/EbGlSyvag==,PT,,1495287004 126318674,126329616,2017-05-20 13:30:12,">>126328870 Maybe he means that he's not into NatSoc, you should bombard his account with links to our general.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495287012 126318674,126329683,2017-05-20 13:30:52,">>126329265 I've never been banned, and ive made some truly awful shitposts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495287052 126318674,126329780,2017-05-20 13:31:41,">>126329265 >being this mad But yeah, if I make enough money I'll buy /pol/ and actually do my job like a benevolent dictator. Shall we pool together?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495287101 126318674,126329865,2017-05-20 13:32:30,">>126329494 Yeah, that's me. Will do my man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495287150 126318674,126329897,2017-05-20 13:32:46,">>126329486 We get it. You've been here for a week and you don't see us talking about Seth Rich. Because we talked about it back when it happened.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495287166 126318674,126329898,2017-05-20 13:32:46,">>126329486 KYS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495287166 126318674,126329960,2017-05-20 13:33:21,">>126329865 Thanks.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495287201 126318674,126330278,2017-05-20 13:36:28,">>126329486 You seem to be lost, let me help you find your way >>>/reddit/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495287388 126318674,126330285,2017-05-20 13:36:32,">>126329780 Lol, imagine how devastated NatSocs of /pol/ would be if Libertarians bought 4chan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495287392 126318674,126330293,2017-05-20 13:36:35,"Just dropping in, so this may have been addressed before. Consumer protection under a limited government system could be achieved by voluntary quality testing by private third party companies who would do various chemical testing and the like and then approve the company putting a label on their products that indicates that the products are safe. The government wouldn't force companies to get testing done, but they would make sure nobody violated the trademark of a testing company by putting their seal of approval on something they have not verified. If a large number of different firms that perform quality testing exist in the market, prices for companies to get their products tested shouldn't be too high; as consumers will be more trusting of brands that are verified as safe, there will be an incentive to get testing. Such products can sell for more than their uncertified competition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495287395 126318674,126330955,2017-05-20 13:42:57,">>126330285 It'd be funny.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495287777 126318674,126331575,2017-05-20 13:49:35,"I've heard of Hoppe but don't know anything about right-wing libertarians, but I generally agree with you faggots can i get a basic gestalt?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495288175 126318674,126331811,2017-05-20 13:52:09,">>126331575 See pics in these posts. >>126318741 >>126324974 >>126324998 >>126325016",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495288329 126318674,126331917,2017-05-20 13:53:06,">>126331811 Ah Slovakia had the old one.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1495288386 126318674,126332008,2017-05-20 13:54:09,"quick question, would grabbing a dickgirl's penis violate the NAP?",,Anonymous,1492629047974.jpg,niWVVIABbz23KYIsl32WUA==,US,,1495288449 126318674,126332121,2017-05-20 13:55:02,">>126331575 gotchu senpai",,Anonymous,1489063397341.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1495288502 126318674,126332370,2017-05-20 13:57:29,">>126332121 We believe in the abolition of the state in favour of a free market system that respects your liberty, derived from natural law.",,Anonymous,The_Hoppean.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,GB,,1495288649 126318674,126332394,2017-05-20 13:57:47,">>126332008 Only if the dickgirl consents. >>126331575 Also welcome aboard, we don't do handouts so you'll have to get your own helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495288667 126318674,126332657,2017-05-20 14:00:46,">>126331575 Basically an Austrian economist (that's his school, he's akchyually a kraut), whom'st'd'll've influenced us to make a general based around his teachings.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495288846 126318674,126332803,2017-05-20 14:02:23,">>126332008 Dickgirls are not girls and they're haram. Grabbing dick without consent is a violation of the NAP, but I'm afraid that using a cruise missile in such a close proximity would be a bad idea. Good thing we have suicide vests.",,Anonymous,arab ball.png,uRNuxpmz3ZZ7Tesh3MVZQg==,SK,,1495288943 126318674,126333291,2017-05-20 14:07:28,">>126332370 Are you the Brit who hosts the site? I think we have the whole crew in this thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495289248 126318674,126333363,2017-05-20 14:08:02,">>126333291 Is Maltabro here? If not, no we don't.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495289282 126318674,126333697,2017-05-20 14:11:14,">>126333291 >Are you the Brit who hosts the site? Unfortunately not. He might be here, though.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495289474 126318674,126333851,2017-05-20 14:12:34,">>126333363 Maltabro says he's been sick, I believe.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495289554 126318674,126333861,2017-05-20 14:12:38,"National capitalism is something i can get behind, i approve + central bankers get the helicopter rides aswell. win-win",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495289558 126318674,126333886,2017-05-20 14:12:46,">>126333697 >>126333363 Alright then not the full crew, were also missing Lesquen too. Haven't seen him in a while.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495289566 126318674,126334089,2017-05-20 14:14:40,">>126327892 /liberty/ is great for discussion, and your ""They unironically hate us for being ""Nazis"""" is quite overblown. Also pinochet apologism isn't banned, just laughed on. You are not entitled to other people's respect, specially when praising dictators in a board that is mostly libertarians.",,Anonymous,1490737894213.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,ES,,1495289680 126318674,126334131,2017-05-20 14:14:59,"decent thread with the ""AnCap Natsoc Alliance General /ANAG/"". rocky start, but I think a lot of misconceptions regarding ancap was cleared up. Certainly I vouched for a lot of hoppean ancap theory. truly it is with great irony, that the group of people vouching for government to govern the least is in alliance with the group of people that wants government to govern the most",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495289699 126318674,126334155,2017-05-20 14:15:15,">>126333886 /ourguys/ list: Hoppewave Portubro (me) Based Portubro with the tripname who makes dank OC De Lesquen French guy Maltabro Website Britbro /lrg/ founder Ameribro Slovakiabro Brazilbro Am I missing anyone?",,Anonymous,commies get OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,PT,,1495289715 126318674,126334430,2017-05-20 14:18:07,">>126325010 Boys Release the McNukes(TM).",,Anonymous,1492358830649.jpg,X/lUz8+ZoYKgoXJxttdPjQ==,TR,,1495289887 126318674,126334488,2017-05-20 14:18:45,>>126325010,,Anonymous,ReadAnatomyOfTheState.png,LXYouNq2pQ+vh7o7Yq6Y/A==,US,,1495289925 126318674,126334574,2017-05-20 14:19:31,">>126334131 Yeah nah I'll take a tankie over any libtardian.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1495289971 126318674,126334747,2017-05-20 14:21:04,">>126334574 you can hold hands with your tankie bf on your way out",,Anonymous,1494557198672.gif,Cogq75hv3P1Hj/hOR+ksPQ==,US,,1495290064 126318674,126334775,2017-05-20 14:21:17,">>126334574 Good. Two morons, one Tomahawk.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495290077 126318674,126334864,2017-05-20 14:22:10,">>126325709 AHAHAAH fucking hell that made me laugh",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495290130 126318674,126334989,2017-05-20 14:23:10,"100mil people not in workforce from obama imagine if everyone in the game, and no whiny sjw? monarchy all be 1000x richer",,Anonymous,1nlu98.jpg,FYnFHGHatA7FLRu+IAAVAw==,US,,1495290190 126318674,126335060,2017-05-20 14:23:51,">>126334131 There is an undeniable love/hate relationship between hardcore right Libertarians and NatSoc. They're the authoritarianfag version of us. I watch Noam Chomsky documentaries against right Libertarians and I unironically agree with him. I just think it's all good stuff tho. >>126334089 Yeah it's not that bad, I've known of /liberty/ for a long time but I always assumed it would be gay like most Libertarian communities. I've only been browsing for a few days. Most people I've talked to are alright,",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495290231 126318674,126335249,2017-05-20 14:25:31,">>126326055 capitalism means property and unregulated activity no weird concepts of workers etc come into it usa became no1 in worl din 1800s by being close to this let do it again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495290331 126318674,126335354,2017-05-20 14:26:24,>>126328754,,Anonymous,1nmf2q.jpg,w7Gj6rpdUysfngdKRJcgcA==,US,,1495290384 126318674,126335506,2017-05-20 14:27:26,">>126328834 damn right ridicule democrats",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495290446 126318674,126335535,2017-05-20 14:27:40,>>126318674,,Anonymous,unrealisticstrawmen.jpg,9jMNkK3zNYoAXJHxb2yytw==,US,,1495290460 126318674,126335543,2017-05-20 14:27:46,">>126335060 ..Like I said, semi-cucked. Cool dudes and neo-libertarians mixed. /lrg/ is superior tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495290466 126318674,126335585,2017-05-20 14:28:08,">>126335060 i often see it like this: ancaps poison degeneracy with their own medicine, while nazis purge them with national policy the end result has always been the same: the purity and freedom of the superior man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495290488 126318674,126336144,2017-05-20 14:32:57,">>126335585 Yeah pretty much this, AnCap is soft eugenics, NatSoc is direct.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495290777 126318674,126336472,2017-05-20 14:35:53,">>126329273 this is giving me an erection",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495290953 126318674,126336641,2017-05-20 14:37:10,">>126336144 precisely. could not have said it better myself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495291030 126318674,126336784,2017-05-20 14:38:27,">>126334155 Good list. I try to ostracize them but also degenerate Brazil and Canada >Who /drunk/ here? >Tfw no ancap boifrend Occasionally I see degenerate Canada make a good provocative ancap thread. I have heated arguments with him but he's alright as long as he doesn't directly represent /lrg/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495291107 126318674,126337416,2017-05-20 14:43:50,">>126334747 fukin kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495291430 126318674,126339271,2017-05-20 15:00:12,">>126331811 That image makes complete sense. It is flawlessly logical by all standards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495292412 126318674,126339922,2017-05-20 15:06:06,">>126334155 I don't come to /lrg/ that often, but if you see someone shilling for the privatization of the roadways, it's probably me. I'm writing a book on it in my spare time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495292766 126318674,126340017,2017-05-20 15:06:56,">>126333363 Lurking ;D",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495292816 126318674,126340201,2017-05-20 15:08:34,">>126339271 Ha ha wonderful. Thanks. The other pro private death squads statement I've been going with is: >A society where a population threatens to ""seize the means of production"", starts riots and destroys property is not a libertarian society. They have to be removed much like the state-by any means necessary. I should make an image for it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495292914 126318674,126340413,2017-05-20 15:10:25,">>126340017 Ayyy >>126339922 Shill it here when it's together.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495293025 126318674,126341205,2017-05-20 15:17:22,">>126340017 Great to see you, lad.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495293442 126318674,126342674,2017-05-20 15:30:13,">>126340413 I sure will. Also gonna shill it in places where I'm not preaching to the choir.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495294213 126318674,126342845,2017-05-20 15:31:44,">>126342674 Have you read Walter Block's book on the topic?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495294304 126318674,126342867,2017-05-20 15:31:56,,,Anonymous,1n3tln.jpg,vlQw+JJ674ZagyUQLFOiTg==,US,,1495294316 126318674,126343381,2017-05-20 15:36:17,">>126339922 Walter Block already wrote that book, bruh. https://mises.org/library/privatization-roads-and-highways I would stop wasting your time and actually find something that needs to be written.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495294577 126318674,126343484,2017-05-20 15:37:05,">>126319166 >Cantwell See >>126334155",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495294625 126318674,126343645,2017-05-20 15:38:20,">>126343484 He's not a National Socialist.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495294700 126318674,126343696,2017-05-20 15:38:50,">>126335354 >you're* >will* >then* Maybe we should spend more on teaching kids.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495294730 126318674,126343912,2017-05-20 15:40:34,">>126343484 Cantwell is /ourguy/",,Anonymous,chriscantwell.jpg,5u8Y+9COhp282tjuyJWfKA==,US,,1495294834 126318674,126344043,2017-05-20 15:41:41,">>126325010 >feudalism >voluntarism pick one and only one, you retarded communist faggot",,Anonymous,1494093187724.jpg,mTGfsgCHOk2nFtvoAKnXdQ==,US,,1495294901 126318674,126344292,2017-05-20 15:43:55,">>126344043 Enjoy this special Andy.",,Anonymous,AncapAndy_0.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,US,,1495295035 126318674,126344572,2017-05-20 15:46:12,"I've come up with what I believe may be a new economic idea (sry it's not too small if a policy) How bout we restrict buisniuses from owning things in foreign country's and owning things in more than say, 5 states (in the US) ya know as a leaf who simpithises with right libertarians I think that a restriction on how many areas a business can expand into could stop monopolies from developing, of coarse you should still be able to get a McDonald's burger in a state without McDonald's, you could have a food patent system, as long as McDonald's or some other food chain has a special sauce then you could have one chain selling the rights to produce a item to other businesses can stop multinational corporations from replacing the government",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495295172 126318674,126344667,2017-05-20 15:47:08,">>126328790 Is that Friedman in between Hoppe & Mises? Please tell me that's not Friedman in between Hoppe & Mises.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495295228 126318674,126344765,2017-05-20 15:48:00,">>126344667 I'm so sorry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495295280 126318674,126344827,2017-05-20 15:48:30,most short crossfit guys and bartender and other delusional faggots are democrat because they just hate working,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495295310 126318674,126345100,2017-05-20 15:50:47,">>126344827 The lazy socialist meme is real. Hell, Marx was a NEET.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495295447 126318674,126345235,2017-05-20 15:51:58,">>126334155 I'm here everything I see the threads",,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1495295518 126318674,126345394,2017-05-20 15:53:24,">>126318674 Thought that was Elton john for a sec",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495295604 126318674,126345554,2017-05-20 15:54:47,">>126344667 it's Ralph Raico",,Anonymous,Ralph Raico 2005.jpg,0RLqG1mObGyzQkQQBJAUlg==,US,,1495295687 126318674,126345909,2017-05-20 15:57:54,">>126345100 The ultimate irony...",,Anonymous,l4x7ar6iks3y.jpg,+lEpUm21JJr15EI0WAv0hw==,GB,,1495295874 126318674,126346406,2017-05-20 16:02:30,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495296150 126318674,126346588,2017-05-20 16:03:59,">>126332121 >NOT BEING IN A HETEROSEXUAL FAMILY UNIT REQUIRES WELFARE AND STATISM wew, lads, I have a hard time following you on everything",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495296239 126318674,126346688,2017-05-20 16:05:08,,,Anonymous,hoppe-farsi-2016.jpg,I5wDeBm4O9Q/eTplLa2QFw==,GB,,1495296308 126318674,126347129,2017-05-20 16:09:10,">>126329494 Alright, working on this now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495296550 126318674,126347461,2017-05-20 16:12:19,">>126346588 Because in traditional societies children were your investment in the future - you looked after them, then they looked after you. In an ancap society, there are no gibs, no welfare, so personal and familial ties are more important for support. Having said that, if you want a gay covenant, go for it. Remember the oft quoted ""physical removal"" quote is specifically about a kin-centred society",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495296739 126318674,126347679,2017-05-20 16:14:30,,,Anonymous,HansHermannHoppe.jpg,xtPkhK2GHLtSwaNEwlJEaQ==,GB,,1495296870 126318674,126347907,2017-05-20 16:16:33,Redpill me on anarcho fascism,,Anonymous,b19.png,jhrxkU4HgBOXN1j2rzgU7Q==,GB,,1495296993 126318674,126347928,2017-05-20 16:16:45,">>126328049 >airborne oven",,Anonymous,oh god.jpg,NP5NdgAvHTeCCBDVYhRrJw==,US,,1495297005 126318674,126348520,2017-05-20 16:20:46,">>126346588 you can't deny that cishet breeders are the most efficient economically self-sustaining unit it's almost like being degenerate...is degenerate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495297246 126318674,126348671,2017-05-20 16:22:06,">>126347907 you can be literally hitler in your own private property and gas anybody that trespasses. that's it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495297326 126318674,126348900,2017-05-20 16:24:08,">>126347907 shit I was making an image and couldn't come up with what else to write at the time. >>126348671 I'd take it farther than that. its not a fascist living in ancapistan. I would summarize an ""Anarcho-Fascist"" as someone who believes in Paleolibertarian/Ancap ethics and is willing to do whatever is necessary to create/enforce a libertarian society. No doubt a ""statist"" in his actions. I'm still working on the theory.",,Anonymous,LibertarianFascism.png,nKG5mvMVeZG4Hg+YlP7u1w==,US,,1495297448 126318674,126349423,2017-05-20 16:28:32,">>126348900 i like where you're going with this. keep it up. maybe Anarcho-Libeterian-Fascism will finally close the divide between Ancaps and Nazis, into a new and intensely fierce system of freedom hitlers hell, we can just take normal nazi propaganda and edit the red into yellow and all swastikas into sneks or something.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495297712 126318674,126349820,2017-05-20 16:31:56,">>126349423 yeah WW2 Stlye propaganda was somthing thats been on my mind. I'll keep at it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495297916 126318674,126349907,2017-05-20 16:32:43,">>126349820 >style",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495297963 126318674,126350113,2017-05-20 16:34:27,">>126349423 >freedom hitlers",,Anonymous,myfacemysoul.jpg,xSFDAf+l5r2FO6YHfQ8XNw==,US,,1495298067 126318674,126350452,2017-05-20 16:37:09,"Hi guys I run a chat with 120+ members, pretty active would love to have some OC creators and the like in there chat: http://t.me/LibertarianRG channel: http://t.me/LibertarianRight",,Anonymous,1470485268981.jpg,ZNZVF4zbiLA4Qe2A9/mamw==,US,,1495298229 126318674,126350811,2017-05-20 16:40:24,">>126350113 all the elements are there my friend. Liberty, freedom, strength, purity, pinochet, helicopters, snakes, black /fa/scist outfits; the ingredients are all present what is left is someone to formally write a recipe book to stand on its own and finally cooking the communists into the what has now been appropriately coined, ""the airborne oven"" i'm still laughing at how clever that was",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495298424 126318674,126351260,2017-05-20 16:44:20,">>126349423 Why would you want to do this? Apart from the opposed ideologies one of the attractions of hoppe et al is a robust ideology as an alternative to being a bootlicking natsoc...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495298660 126318674,126351481,2017-05-20 16:46:26,">>126350811 Its happening >>126351260 Its more about Libertarians being the boot, rather than licking it.",,Anonymous,Huey.png,sg9S7/xd3WRC3tfQC2y8qA==,US,,1495298786 126318674,126351810,2017-05-20 16:49:32,">>126349423 A fasces of sneks could actually be cool looking if done rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495298972 126318674,126352146,2017-05-20 16:52:28,">>126351810 I've done it but i'd be cool to have somthing more traditional styled.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,US,,1495299148 126318674,126352463,2017-05-20 16:55:23,">>126351260 it is about the synthesis of taking the best of what ideas have to offer and discarding what makes them bad, in order to formulate something even better than both elements separately I am presently an ancap myself of the hoppean and rothbard tradition, but while it is true that it functions well on its own as a form of soft economical eugenics program, this aspect is not emphasized enough. We are seen as weak, traitors to the cause, and ultimately as globalist cucks for (((open-boarders))) contrary to the truth we can continue to fight against their misunderstandings and clarify what we really mean time after time, again and again, thread after thread, OR we can formally distinguish what we really stand for, as the final argument for liberty and freedom. the LP party for example in the states have given Libertarianism such as a bad name as the cuckold's party. We can choose to continue assuming their identity to defend it, or we can choose to stand on our own and establish a new line of straightforward ideals for purity alongside freedom of man and economy there is no bootlicking, as >>126351481 said, there is now a snake in your boots",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495299323 126318674,126352593,2017-05-20 16:56:34,">>126352146 For sure. One idea I just had was a snake binding the stick together like pic related >inb4 image.jpg",,Anonymous,image.jpg,kJFZehHSEpVRtvrDbsOLjA==,US,,1495299394 126318674,126352763,2017-05-20 16:58:02,">>126352593 nice, I like that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495299482 126318674,126353004,2017-05-20 17:00:22,">>126352463 Yeah, I'd be in favor of a rebranding with a name the cuckhold party types couldn't latch onto. Libertarian-Fascism is already well meme'd",,Anonymous,AnFasces.png,nPDb0IVenvjAIRPrymjXTw==,US,,1495299622 126318674,126353228,2017-05-20 17:02:29,"shill your fagbook pages! >/TexasHoppLib/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495299749 126318674,126353849,2017-05-20 17:08:20,">>126318674 I'm back here Had a shitton of work needed spare my time",,Anonymous,image.jpg,gsFeQHuXcKOpYAtgpCE3QA==,FR,,1495300100 126318674,126354020,2017-05-20 17:10:06,">>126353849 Hey, I'd been wondering when you'd show up again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495300206 126318674,126354298,2017-05-20 17:12:52,">>126353004 you know it's strange how the mind works in producing instantaneous imagery of what seems to be the absurdly impossible. i pictured it, a large crowd of young men and women in masses before their speaker. Wild cheers, roars, and energy beyond what simple excitement can compare. The speaker concludes in thunderous applause after his party's slogan: ""Liberty! Freedom! Today! Tomorrow! Forever!"" A march followed, armies of soldiers and tanks mobilized not to the whim of a state or cult of personality, but as the voluntary force needed to establish a bold new future. No conscription, only dedication and determination. The strength of fascism, now fused with the clever wits of anarcho-capitalism, this new behemoth would wage war not for state but for freedom once and for all how fascinating.",,Anonymous,pinochet.jpg,gaOan8fPW0z4R6k5W7sifQ==,US,,1495300372 126318674,126354641,2017-05-20 17:16:15,">""Liberty! Freedom! Today! Tomorrow! Forever!"" beautiful. You're fueling the my propaganda machine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495300575 126318674,126354681,2017-05-20 17:16:36,">>126354020 I am here now Stronger than ever",,Anonymous,image.jpg,NQ3BopxxfPD0uIoPEJz0Mg==,FR,,1495300596 126318674,126354700,2017-05-20 17:16:45,Take my pino,,Anonymous,Emergency pino.jpg,K2KypfpznT/2gnLq7akLEw==,US,,1495300605 126318674,126354790,2017-05-20 17:17:31,">>126352463 I take your point, but using the name/imagery of a failed statist ideology (the fasces etc) - it seems like giving in. >>126352593 If you must do this, what about one snake in an X like pic related?",,Anonymous,2000px-Fasces.svg.png,PBAulunL7B0VxIvO1pRL8w==,GB,,1495300651 126318674,126355215,2017-05-20 17:21:23,">>126354298 sounds like mosley, mate",,Anonymous,2eabf3f183f61ab5afa238aad5f57475.jpg,bhnxcsfE1tG/961JDLA95w==,GB,,1495300883 126318674,126355283,2017-05-20 17:22:01,">>126354700 Very Nice Pino",,Anonymous,image.jpg,dqpE6j+EZdf9nyTg5rqNJw==,FR,,1495300921 126318674,126355316,2017-05-20 17:22:22,"Feels really good lurking some other posts and seeing people using our arguments in things totally unrelated to libertarianism. Like yesterday some Italian bro in another thread using the arguments of dissociation to counter degeneracy, or the other day in some vegan thread. We're doing god's work here.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495300942 126318674,126355337,2017-05-20 17:22:34,">>126355215 that's precisely what I imagined. maybe even the quote was from him, those were just the words that echoed to me",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495300954 126318674,126355450,2017-05-20 17:23:30,">>126355316 Too bad I missed it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495301010 126318674,126355697,2017-05-20 17:25:35,">>126325010 You're right. Anarchism is just another word for communism so it doesn't apply to ancap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495301135 126318674,126355772,2017-05-20 17:26:05,">>126355316 What's been really encouraging is in the memeball threads etc countering stuff, and there's always a couple of anons get interested.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495301165 126318674,126355886,2017-05-20 17:27:08,"regulation caused 2008 and great depression in 1800s almsot unregualted capitalism made usa no1 from nothing 0 to no1 all u gota do is deregulate get rid of controls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495301228 126318674,126355908,2017-05-20 17:27:20,">>126355450 >>126355772 Yesterday I also made a post about the Waco raid that has a lot of red-pilling potential. Lots of good posts there. >>126172716",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495301240 126318674,126355974,2017-05-20 17:27:54,">>126318674 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPembXZMKv0",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1495301274 126318674,126356059,2017-05-20 17:28:41,">>126355908 i was in that thread, good one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495301321 126318674,126356086,2017-05-20 17:28:54,">>126325313 You are confusing communism with Marxism. Both anarchism and Marxism are communist. Anarcho communism is redundant All communism is authoritarian because it's a sin against nature. Implementing ""perfect equality"" requires force, which requires hierarchy and becomes a contradiction",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495301334 126318674,126356290,2017-05-20 17:30:46,">>126355908 Yeah, people don't realise how fucked up waco really was. And that cunt horiuchi should have got a 12 foot drop off a six foot rope...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495301446 126318674,126356969,2017-05-20 17:36:51,">>126343912 i second",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495301811 126318674,126357427,2017-05-20 17:41:00,">>126356086 Anarchy is the idea that the individual is beholden to no state or law (stirner- ""nothing above myself""). It is voluntarist, but says nothing about collectivism. Communism, even after the state has 'withered' (never happens, just gommie dictators) posits all property etc held collectively. Ancap, is anarchist in the sense of being stateless, and individual ownership, property rights, and voluntary association define it. It is diametrically opposed to communism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495302060 126318674,126357536,2017-05-20 17:42:00,">>126355908 Godammit,the 90's really had the best happenings Should do a memeball about it >When you are a leader of an adventist cult and you buy some guns legally but the ATF tries to kill you so they accuse you of being a child rapist,THEN the situation goes nuts and your house become and fucking battlefield with your cultists fighting tanks and SWAT,and your house fucking explodes convincing a dixielover to bomb a motherfucking federal building",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495302120 126318674,126357544,2017-05-20 17:42:04,So how are we going to actually form a libertarian society? Memes and shitposting are nice and all but if we don't practice what we preach it's all in vain.,,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495302124 126318674,126357809,2017-05-20 17:44:27,">>126357536 Not only that, but was a wakeup call fueling the huge rise in the US militia movement, eventually giving rise to groups like the IIIpers and oathkeepers. Remember Linda Thompson?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495302267 126318674,126358094,2017-05-20 17:47:02,">>126326530 > Helicopter pilots handbook I kek'd so loud the waifu asked me if I was choking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495302422 126318674,126358719,2017-05-20 17:52:59,">>126357544 we're very far from it, but we need to support every secessionist movement, most of them are useful idiots who think it will lead to socialism. Support parties that advocate for decentralization, even if just to make certain regions happy, it is a good step to making others unhappy. We're gaining a lot of traction in internet, the alt-right has monopolized the attention for now but we need to present ourselves as the step further that people should take when whatever politician disappoints them.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495302779 126318674,126358765,2017-05-20 17:53:22,">>126357544 memes and shitposting are good, they let people know we exist and maybe even get them curious to what the buzz is all about. The more people know about it, the better. Really, we're just waiting for the inevitable economic collapse from socialist policies while arming ourselves in the meantime. You ARE arming yourselves, right? after collapse, if enough people know then they might reorganize themselves under more ancap principles instead of forming another state. Hopefully they will ask ""what caused this collapse"" and can trace it down to its logical root, and approach things differently to prevent it from happening again. There may be a period of violence at first, but that's why arming oneself and training is important. Joining a militia, sticking together, that sort of thing that's the worse case scenario though. A peaceful transition to ancap? highly unlikely, but still technically possible if somehow the major populace acknowledges ancap as a more practical alternative and just adopts it. very slim to happen. better be safe than sorry and prepare for the worst when the collapse and wars come in if anything and absolutely nothing happens within my lifetime, at least the training results in being /fit/. this is what I tell myself to motivate healthy living habits...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495302802 126318674,126359054,2017-05-20 17:56:22,">>126357544 oh and what >>126358719 has said. Voting for more decentralization are good steps, maybe for a peaceful course. Personally I just doubt the system could ever fully change internally. a greater conflict is needed for people to really rethink things clean slate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495302982 126318674,126359522,2017-05-20 18:00:35,">>126358719 >>126358765 What about entryism into existing libertarian parties? The way the all-right did...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495303235 126318674,126359962,2017-05-20 18:04:22,">>126358719 >>126358765 Insightful answers... yeah, that's what I thought too, the current statist systems are too entrenched and there needs to be a power vacuum for ancap to gain traction irl and the unsustainable fractional reserve financial system's collapse will probably be the only real window of opportunity.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495303462 126318674,126360387,2017-05-20 18:08:26,">>126359054 The trouble with voting is that people tend to vote left, that's why democracy doesn't work in the long run, it just becomes socialism.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495303706 126318674,126360619,2017-05-20 18:10:51,">>126355908 Fucking Feds shitting everything up as always. They got what they asked for in OK.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495303851 126318674,126360675,2017-05-20 18:11:29,Could anyone give me a quick rundown of the principles of hoppean libertarianism? Browsed a few /lrg/ here and there and I'm genuinely interested before I commit to reading his work.,,Anonymous,1481671467163.png,e9IkXeC+xmNmUAwZaPM2tQ==,CA,,1495303889 126318674,126360740,2017-05-20 18:12:14,">>126360387 exactly. That is why economic collapse is inevitable, they will just keep voting for more and more The problem is that it's difficult to exactly pin-point when this collapse will be. We just know it's going to happen. I despise doomsayers who say it's going to be ""soon™"" because their constant alarmism just makes people indifferent to when it's actually, really, happening guys, for real this time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495303934 126318674,126360790,2017-05-20 18:12:51,">>126360387 Democracy is just the collectivisation of the political process. ""The uninformed vote of the herd disenfranchises the informed vote of the few""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495303971 126318674,126360821,2017-05-20 18:13:10,">>126360675 Private property anarchism + the recognition that the state is the source of degeneracy + private covenant communities + physical removal of undesirables",,Anonymous,Time Preference and Civilization.jpg,cKlFzeXm+JZfIquU+8hI5Q==,PT,,1495303990 126318674,126360944,2017-05-20 18:14:18,">>126360675 i recommend you scroll up and read some of the info pics posted. they are very nice here is some >>126331811 >>126332370 >>126332121",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495304058 126318674,126361022,2017-05-20 18:15:04,">>126360675 welcome aboard btw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495304104 126318674,126361326,2017-05-20 18:18:11,">>126360675 It's all based on the principles of association and dissociation. Unlike other ancaps, the NAP is not something Hoppe relies on, his work shows a world where people don't need to accept the NAP forcefully, they accept it by self interest against being ostracized, simply by analyzing the incentives a society of private property would lead to, in a more accurate way than other authors. His idea is represented by covenants of free association and an incredible analysis (80D chess-like) of insurances and incentives from a praxeologic point of view.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495304291 126318674,126361411,2017-05-20 18:19:05,">>126360675 Tl;dr It's natural to own shit and it's good to own shit If you have the right to own shit,then you have the right to remove darkies and fags from it.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495304345 126318674,126361543,2017-05-20 18:20:29,">>126361411 Based. Pretty much a jargon free explanation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495304429 126318674,126361587,2017-05-20 18:20:56,">>126318674 >tfw just want to go back to being a blue-pilled anarcho-capitalist Is it possible to be a traditionalist/feudalist/monarchist in theory (I believe the state is natural and good, fuck le NAP maymay) but an anarcho-capitalist in practice as the best way to restore traditional social order? I'm so sick of being a borderline Stormfaggot.",,Anonymous,wojak crying.jpg,b2KV7w26VDk7zBNgS41Unw==,US,,1495304456 126318674,126361736,2017-05-20 18:22:15,">>126361587 Degenerates and shitskins are self-destructive. Freedom will fix it.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495304535 126318674,126361757,2017-05-20 18:22:26,">>126360821 >>126360944 >>126361326 >>126361411 Thanks lads. Gonna do some reading this week :^)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495304546 126318674,126361788,2017-05-20 18:22:48,">>126360675 Liberty Property rights Voluntary association (ie no forced diversity/integration) Free markets Non aggression Covenants (societies set up to live a certain way) I'd start with Rothbards Anatomy of the state, then Hopes Democracy, the God that failed. Both available here http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",,Anonymous,1470622-Hans-Hermann-Hoppe-Quote-Private-property-implies-exclusivity.jpg,caOQIczEQH/o9P9aULA9Kw==,GB,,1495304568 126318674,126361904,2017-05-20 18:24:03,">>126361587 you can be as traditionalist/feudalist/monarchist as you like within the realm of your own private property senpai >but an anarcho-capitalist in practice as the best way to restore traditional social order? well yes, believe it or not. Ancap is soft eugenics, the degenerates will degenerate and you will just not be forced to pay for their shit. without welfare, they will wither and non-degenerates can prosper. no state needed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495304643 126318674,126362197,2017-05-20 18:26:54,:^),,Anonymous,Cx9nSQ6WQAUWIpa.jpg,kfOPZJaq5MU0Ars93MWY4g==,IE,,1495304814 126318674,126362364,2017-05-20 18:28:32,">>126361587 Imagine a society with no gibs, no diversity quotas, no forced integration, equality of opportunity not outcome, voluntary association only - on your property or in your covenant you can just tell people to gtfo. Who thrives living like that?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495304912 126318674,126362390,2017-05-20 18:28:51,">>126362197 one great famine wasn't enough",,Anonymous,1491343044497.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1495304931 126318674,126362440,2017-05-20 18:29:21,">>126361587 >Is it possible to be a traditionalist/feudalist/monarchist in theory That's all we are here. One of the most enlightening moments for me was when a friend of mine (supper commie) went to live in Hong Kong. At that point I begun realizing economic migration is where people show what they really want, just like girls will tell you they want a good guy, most people don't know what they really want except when they are exposed to the market. After that, it's all about seeing what would be necessary to improve this concept of economic migration to make sure new migrants who think a but really want b, wouldn't ruin it. And I realized that what was needed was simply contracts. And that's (along with a dozen of books) is how I became ancap.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495304961 126318674,126362552,2017-05-20 18:30:24,">>126362197 >foreign au pairs Kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495305024 126318674,126362783,2017-05-20 18:32:19,">>126361587 Paleolibertarian AnCap/Right Libertarianism is the redpill for you. Welcome home, white man. See. >>126324974",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495305139 126318674,126363027,2017-05-20 18:34:21,">>126362440 btw Maltanon, you always have the most intelligent and well-written posts, are you a quant or some other kind of smart person? ;)",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495305261 126318674,126363195,2017-05-20 18:35:56,"Did you know that the KKK was founded by libertarians? If you hate niggers, jews, spics, arabs, faggots, commie scum as much as we do and you want to raid some tranny server once in a while, you should join the official Moon Central Discord! White people only. Introduce yourself in #introductions https://discord.gg/rDSBTgq 1, 2, 3 ,4 I declare a race war! Join us and lynch a nigger tonight! 14/88, The Triple K Mafia P.S Fuck Niggers",,Anonymous,eJwNwdENhCAMANBdGIC2HCq4TYMETYQSqF8Xd79772uecZvdnKp97gDHNZOMw06VwSXbIlLuzP2aNkkFVuV01tx0ggsUA1FcXPBuwdWt8ME_wuADoo9xIw9VpFVutrdi3h8EsCKy.png,uAWkC65Y5HEUROTZaTkY5A==,CH,,1495305356 126318674,126363479,2017-05-20 18:38:23,">>126363195 >adapting shilling your discord to the thread Catering to the market, you'll be an ancap yet, bergjuden",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495305503 126318674,126363585,2017-05-20 18:39:26,">>126363195 You're pretty cool, I too understand that moonman is ourguy.",,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1495305566 126318674,126364134,2017-05-20 18:44:20,,,Anonymous,1n3tq9.jpg,2A8ByF1XO5ER9UQvJNSWbQ==,US,,1495305860 126318674,126364726,2017-05-20 18:49:52,">>126363027 Thanks man, really glad to see appreciation. I'm the kind of guy who with 5 years memorized all the names of dinosaurs and all the capital cities in the world, and who learned to read alone by associating the words with sounds from tv shows, so I guess I'm kind of smart yeah, and not very humble :P",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495306192 126318674,126364771,2017-05-20 18:50:16,">>126363585 Thinking about it Should we include pic related into /ourguy/s style Pinochet or the NSA will fuck with us ?",,Anonymous,image.jpg,tIuFufmjtYu4FqhzJ/sxEA==,FR,,1495306216 126318674,126365231,2017-05-20 18:54:27,">>126361736 I guess >>126361904 No state ""needed"", but it's basically inevitable. Don't meme me, I used to be into this stuff before I became a quasi-fascist. >>126362364 The noble, obviously. >>126362440 Hmm >>126362783 That's what I used to be and I want to go home. I just don't want to do the whole ""le taxation is theft"" maymay. I don't believe that, it's more I'm thinking that a anarcho-capitalist social order is the best chance we have now to start over and restore a natural and organic social order. To me, it's more of a means than an end.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495306467 126318674,126365720,2017-05-20 18:58:43,">>126365231 i apologize, no memeing on you intended. the fact that it's basically inevitable as you said was my point in that a state is still unnecessary if the end result is the same thing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495306723 126318674,126365836,2017-05-20 18:59:50,">>126364726 It ain't braggin' if it's true... btw, How's Malta in term of politics and economics? Is it more of a EU vassal state or more like Switzerland?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495306790 126318674,126366201,2017-05-20 19:03:04,"Hello lads. Daily reminder. How to achieve a libertarian society: 1. Get a young traditional wife > 2. Get a fine job > 3. Make tons of babies > 4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other) > 5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing > 6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants > 7. Privately educate your kids. Send them to good, elite, schools where they can fulfill their quest for knowledge and make great contacts. > 8. Vote, support parties/think tanks/people that want to reduce govt and degeneracy. > 9. Become a central point in your community's affairs. Know the local Father, the politicians, your neighbors, your kids' friends' parents, and so on. Invest a lot into local change. Godspeed. >>126352593 Source on that pic??",,^~,prosper.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,PT,,1495306984 126318674,126366421,2017-05-20 19:04:54,">>126334155 >website britbro Not been here recently as busy irl but I'll update the website next week. Any big new stuff?",,Anonymous,1491683273326.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,GB,,1495307094 126318674,126366530,2017-05-20 19:05:55,">>126365720 I just think government is inevitable and when left unmolested takes the form of monarchies and aristocracies. I'm interested in restoring natural social order and since Nazism/fascism is the pinnacle of leftism (pic related) I really need to back off from my creeping stormfaggotry. So I guess theoretically I intend to be a reactionary but pragmatically a ""libertarian"" even though I don't believe in libertarianism. I just think certain political orders described as ""libertarian"" may be our best bet to restore tradition.",,Anonymous,national leftism.jpg,yvq+qPHTWq6H3S4VygmP5A==,US,,1495307155 126318674,126366637,2017-05-20 19:06:59,">>126364771 I'm sorry, what? >>126365231 >Le taxation is theft I feel you, we feel you. I hate that Reddit bastardization of Anarcho capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495307219 126318674,126366800,2017-05-20 19:08:41,">>126318674 Libertarian here again, still got some questions for you anarchists I hope you guys can answer for me. >Department of Homeland Security How would a similar service work/operate in an anarcho-capitalist society? How do you coordinate a response to a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency? Wouldn't you need a monopoly to execute this job properly? I also doubt a service that only gets paid when disaster strikes is a good business plan. >Military Last time I asked I got some alright answers, but nothing really convinced me. In order to carry out a counter attack or redeploy troops on your borders, coordination and intelligence are key. If companies decided to work together and coordinate an attack, would it still not be way less efficient than a nationalized army? Everyone is probably using different equipment, so logistics will be a nightmare and there are different generals using different doctrine. If there is a disagreement between two generals, there's no minister of defense, or the like, to just decide who is right and get on with it. >Fire departments I never understood this one, please explain how you would prevent fires from spreading thanks in advance",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1495307321 126318674,126367013,2017-05-20 19:10:42,">>126366201 Are the books in your pic of your personal library?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495307442 126318674,126367085,2017-05-20 19:11:25,">>126365836 Government still has no deep-state structure here, and with deductions, etc, if you're smart you can get a really advantageous taxation. That being said, there's no country other than Switzerland that I've visited that didn't feel like a ticking bomb. Malta is the same, it just has a bit of ""delay"" compared to other EU countries, but people like government intervention way too much.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495307485 126318674,126367095,2017-05-20 19:11:29,">>126366637 >I feel you, we feel you. I hate that Reddit bastardization of Anarcho capitalism. Well, it is straight out of Rothbard. Although perhaps he too was a meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495307489 126318674,126367223,2017-05-20 19:12:46,">>126367013 No, they're all pics I took from the web.",,^~,,,PT,,1495307566 126318674,126367237,2017-05-20 19:12:49,">>126366201 wife? lol fuck 18 year olds nonstop just pay them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495307569 126318674,126367344,2017-05-20 19:13:52,">>126366530 or you set limit on regulation and spending 1% gdp etc etc yaron brook deregulate democracy is anarchy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495307632 126318674,126367504,2017-05-20 19:15:23,">>126366530 how is government inevitable when to achieve anarchy (and thus, anarcho-capitalism), government is abandoned? true, there may be mini monarchies and aristocracies, but they are limited to their own private property. if they spread, they are seen as threats and dealt with accordingly likewise you're free to uphold and exercise as much traditionalism, social order, and Nazi-inspired philosophy as you'd like, just within your property. Do not contain yourself. The whole point of ancap is liberation, not more restrictions: if you feel tradition and social order is valuable, by god then commit to it in the highest standards possible. Just know that an attempt to enforce your will onto others without their consent is aggression, and in the same violence was provoked, opponents would strike you first -- meaning neither side is able to exist in peace, and instead of tradition and social order you are enslaved to whatever their rules are, because it's not ancap anymore. This is why fascism alone fails, aggression is seen as a threat and more and more people would gang up against you because peace was never an option",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495307723 126318674,126367512,2017-05-20 19:15:27,">>126366637 We often use Pinochet (for memes ) to talk about removing commies and trigger them So I thought about including McVeigh for anti-gubmint shit,and trigger lefties even more (even though they would legitimize him If he did OKC for progressive reasons) Just an idea",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495307727 126318674,126367676,2017-05-20 19:17:09,">>126367095 Taxation is theft. And I respect the fuck outta Rothbard. I'm talking about the faggot culture surrounding Libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495307829 126318674,126367771,2017-05-20 19:17:52,">>126367504 >traditionalism >Nazi-inspired philosophy Pick one The whole problem is you never explain why ""le coercion"" is wrong. It's just taken as a given combined with some godawful metaphysics about how ""you own yourself"" and other things you'd never say after reading an actual philosophy book. What I'm suggesting is this social order would be a way to put an end to what exists and let an organic society spring up. Although I suppose perhaps what you call ""private property"" I just call ""feudalism.""",,Anonymous,squidward reading.jpg,hoohu/9uRMYiJ6DhHWNiOg==,US,,1495307872 126318674,126367809,2017-05-20 19:18:07,">>126367223 Okay",,Anonymous,hoppe check em.png,a0MepQNWpK+ksQ9fSimWYg==,PT,,1495307887 126318674,126367834,2017-05-20 19:18:20,">>126367512 You're gonna have to give me a rundown on mcveigh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495307900 126318674,126367981,2017-05-20 19:19:41,">>126367237 You can do both if you want.",,^~,,,PT,,1495307981 126318674,126368245,2017-05-20 19:22:07,">>126367771 >Let us turn then to the natural-rights basis for the libertarian creed, a basis which, in one form or another, has been adopted by most of the libertarians, past and present. “Natural rights” is the cornerstone of a political philosophy which, in turn, is embedded in a greater structure of “natural law.” Natural law theory rests on the insight that we live in a world of more than one—in fact, a vast number—of entities, and that each entity has distinct and specific properties, a distinct “nature,” which can be investigated by man’s reason, by his sense perception and mental faculties. Copper has a distinct nature and behaves in a certain way, and so do iron, salt, etc. The species man, therefore, has a specifiable nature, as does the world around him and the ways of interaction between them. To put it with undue brevity, the activity of each inorganic and organic entity is determined by its own nature and by the nature of the other entities with which it comes in contact. Specifically, while the behavior of plants and at least the lower animals is determined by their biological nature or perhaps by their “instincts,” the nature of man is such that each individual person must, in order to act, choose his own ends and employ his own means in order to attain them. Possessing no automatic instincts, each man must learn about himself and the world, use his mind to select values, learn about cause and effect, and act purposively to maintain himself and advance his life. Since men can think, feel, evaluate, and act only as individuals, it becomes vitally necessary for each man’s survival and prosperity that he be free to learn, choose, develop his faculties, and act upon his knowledge and values. This is the necessary path of human nature; to interfere with and cripple this process by using violence goes profoundly against what is necessary by man’s nature for his life and prosperity.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495308127 126318674,126368318,2017-05-20 19:22:48,">>126367771 >>126368245 >The most viable method of elaborating the natural-rights statement of the libertarian position is to divide it into parts, and to begin with the basic axiom of the “right to self-ownership.” The right to self-ownership asserts the absolute right of each man, by virtue of his (or her) being a human being, to “own” his or her own body; that is, to control that body free of coercive interference. Since each individual must think, learn, value, and choose his or her ends and means in order to survive and flourish, the right to self-ownership gives man the right to perform these vital activities without being hampered and restricted by coercive molestation. >Consider, too, the consequences of denying each man the right to own his own person. There are then only two alternatives: either (1) a certain class of people, A, have the right to own another class, B; or (2) everyone has the right to own his own equal quotal share of everyone else. The first alternative implies that while Class A deserves the rights of being human, Class B is in reality subhuman and therefore deserves no such rights. But since they are indeed human beings, the first alternative contradicts itself in denying natural human rights to one set of humans. Moreover, as we shall see, allowing Class A to own Class B means that the former is allowed to exploit, and therefore to live parasitically, at the expense of the latter. But this parasitism itself violates the basic economic requirement for life: production and exchange.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495308168 126318674,126368380,2017-05-20 19:23:30,">>126367771 Feudalism was pretty good tho.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495308210 126318674,126368396,2017-05-20 19:23:38,">>126366800 >How would a similar service work/operate in an anarcho-capitalist society? a private organization is established tasked with keeping the peace, funded voluntarily by people who obviously wants peace to be kept. This private military service then conducts its job similarly to the Department of Homeland Security >coordinate a response to a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency? Wouldn't you need a monopoly to execute this job properly? there can be a natural monopoly, since monopolies aren't necessarily always bad. there is still standards, you know. it would work very similar to how it already is >I also doubt a service that only gets paid when disaster strikes is a good business plan. they could operate on principles of insurance. >If companies decided to work together and coordinate an attack, would it still not be way less efficient than a nationalized army? not necessarily. Different branches of a nationalized army already work together, I don't see how a private entity couldn't coordinate and do the same. >Everyone is probably using different equipment, so logistics will be a nightmare and there are different generals using different doctrine. there can still be accepted standards for the convenience of everyone's usage. If you know that in the future you might need to cooperate with other people to secure your own existence, then you would share information and intelligence when the time has come, possibly pooling together resources as necessary during crisis >If there is a disagreement between two generals, there's no minister of defense, or the like, to just decide who is right and get on with it. there is already conflicts of strategy within militaries. Instead of a minister of defense, an appointed (as agreed by contractually by all parties beforehand) could be given authority to coordinate tactics for the most efficient outcome. This is crisis, people will cooperate if it means their future is at risk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495308218 126318674,126368401,2017-05-20 19:23:40,">>126367771 >>126368318 >The second alternative, what we might call “participatory communalism” or “communism,” holds that every man should have the right to own his equal quotal share of everyone else. If there are two billion people in the world, then everyone has the right to own one two-billionth of every other person. In the first place, we can state that this ideal rests on an absurdity: proclaiming that every man is entitled to own a part of everyone else, yet is not entitled to own himself. Secondly, we can picture the viability of such a world: a world in which no man is free to take any action whatever without prior approval or indeed command by everyone else in society. It should be clear that in that sort of “communist” world, no one would be able to do anything, and the human race would quickly perish. But if a world of zero self-ownership and one hundred percent other ownership spells death for the human race, then any steps in that direction also contravene the natural law of what is best for man and his life on earth. >Finally, however, the participatory communist world cannot be put into practice. For it is physically impossible for everyone to keep continual tabs on everyone else, and thereby to exercise his equal quotal share of partial ownership over every other man. In practice, then, the concept of universal and equal other-ownership is utopian and impossible, and supervision and therefore control and ownership of others necessarily devolves upon a specialized group of people, who thereby become a ruling class. Hence, in practice, any attempt at communist rule will automatically become class rule, and we would be back at our first alternative. The libertarian therefore rejects these alternatives and concludes by adopting as his primary axiom the universal right of self-ownership, a right held by everyone by virtue of being a human being.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495308220 126318674,126368633,2017-05-20 19:26:08,">>126366800 >Fire departments. I never understood this one, please explain how you would prevent fires from spreading it could operate on principles of insurance, and people would get billed afterwards. Really, it just depends on private law in the area. If someone's house got on fire and it's not in the city, and they didn't purchase any kind of precautionary service, then their house burning down was a product of their own negligence and isn't anybody's fault but their own. in a city I would suspect the first method would be in place since it's more concentrated between individuals in shared ownership of property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495308368 126318674,126368918,2017-05-20 19:29:07,">>126367834 >be burger >had a grandfather that loved guns >learnt to love guns >serves in the army during the golf war >wrote letters about defending gun ownership,shiting on taxes and promoting private property against bureaucrats and socialists >Ruby Bridge happen >ohshit.jpg >waco siege happen >110% MAD >decide to give the finger to the Feds >bomb a federal building in Oklahoma >doesn't give a fuck /LRG/ on steroids",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495308547 126318674,126369155,2017-05-20 19:31:45,">>126367771 >traditionalism >Nazi-inspired philosophy >Pick one no, you can pick both. You can follow Nazi-inspired principles as long as you're within your own private property. I see no contradiction. >you never explain why ""le coercion"" is wrong it's wrong because you don't like being forced to do things you don't like. Obviously you would not like to be in a communist system. If you defend coercion, then you defend the right for communists to take you over and impose their laws on you. Got a problem with that? Too bad, deal with it, you are defending coercion not freedom. Taxes is money you are forced to pay to communists, or whatever ideology is in charge. You're forced to pay them, like it or not, or be met with violence. That is why coercion is wrong: because you're not the boss of who you are anymore. to them, you are pawn, a vote, a worker for some grand cause that you MUST obey like it or not >what you call ""private property"" I just call ""feudalism."" private property is just private property, not feudalism. Feudalism is a very different, and very distinct",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495308705 126318674,126369449,2017-05-20 19:34:45,"unregulated capitalism its what made usa no1 in 1800s lets do what works fuck failures of rest of world",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495308885 126318674,126369454,2017-05-20 19:34:48,">>126368918 Nice, I can get down with that. The FBI is Def watching but bombing federal buildings is redpilled and /lrg/ approved. >/pol/ is satire, pls guberment I don't plan on doing terrorism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495308888 126318674,126369816,2017-05-20 19:38:35,">>126347907 Less government= more money",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495309115 126318674,126370687,2017-05-20 19:48:20,">>126369454 >dude Xdddd,you really think your 2nd ammendment will protect you from the governme-",,Anonymous,image.jpg,3cyRXEOvvHp3nH9gRmDZ2g==,FR,,1495309700 126318674,126370986,2017-05-20 19:51:32,">>126368918 >>126369454 >>126370687 fresh off the airborne oven",,Anonymous,oklahoma_00000.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,PT,,1495309892 126318674,126371253,2017-05-20 19:54:08,">McVeigh's original plan had been to detonate the bomb at 11:00 a.m., but at dawn on April 19, 1995, he decided instead to destroy the building at 9:00 a.m.[58] As he drove toward the Murrah Federal Building in the Ryder truck, McVeigh carried with him an envelope containing pages from The Turner Diaries—a fictional account of white supremacists who ignite a revolution by blowing up the FBI headquarters at 9:15 one morning using a truck bomb.[23] McVeigh wore a printed T-shirt with the motto of the Commonwealth of Virginia, Sic semper tyrannis (""Thus always to tyrants"", according to legend what Brutus said as he assassinated Julius Caesar, also shouted by John Wilkes Booth immediately after the assassination of Abraham Lincoln) and ""The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"" (from Thomas Jefferson).[33] He also carried an envelope full of revolutionary materials that included a bumper sticker with the Thomas Jefferson slogan, ""When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."" Underneath, McVeigh had written, ""Maybe now, there will be liberty!"" with a hand-copied quote by John Locke asserting that a man has a right to kill someone who takes away his liberty. Holy fucking shit kek",,Anonymous,ancap ball.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,PT,,1495310048 126318674,126371288,2017-05-20 19:54:35,">>126370986 >>126370687",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495310075 126318674,126371467,2017-05-20 19:56:33,">>126371253 The absolute Fucking Madman",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495310193 126318674,126371844,2017-05-20 20:00:23,">>126371253 Jesus Christ, no doubt /ourguy/ and an absolute madman.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495310423 126318674,126371863,2017-05-20 20:00:31,">>126371253 wow he went all out a shame this isn't as talked about anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495310431 126318674,126372040,2017-05-20 20:02:09,">>126370986 I like this, can we get more ancap ball memes relating to revolutionary terrorist acts please. Also bump for the airborne oven.",,Anonymous,1492132241250.jpg,uiFHN7m7jeJw1yybAbMAwQ==,US,,1495310529 126318674,126372045,2017-05-20 20:02:11,">>126371863 >>126371844 So did he intend to kill anyone or did just want to destroy a federal government building?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495310531 126318674,126372134,2017-05-20 20:03:08,">>126372045 The federal building So he could piss of the feds",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495310588 126318674,126372177,2017-05-20 20:03:32,Someone explain to me how banking can be completely privatized while also using the gold standard. Do market rules apply to the banking sector? I must say I'm fairly new to Austrian economics.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495310612 126318674,126372196,2017-05-20 20:03:43,">>126372045 He intended to kill some people, nap violated, but still so incredibly based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495310623 126318674,126372209,2017-05-20 20:03:48,">>126371844 >>126371863 >>126371467 It makes me smug as fuck to know organizations like the Oath Keepers or the Three Percenters exist to protect you(r) burgers from the feds. If someone did that in Europe he'd get his ass thrown in jail. >>126372045 It was revenge for Waco. If you go to the Wikipedia article you can filter all the anti-gun bullshit and see why he did it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495310628 126318674,126372290,2017-05-20 20:04:31,">>126372209 Oath keepers are cool as fuck too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495310671 126318674,126372400,2017-05-20 20:05:28,"WE NEED TO REVOLT AGAINST THE FASCISTS IN /POL/. WE HAVE THE NUMBERS WE JUST NEED TO FIGHT! PRAISE SNEK NO MORE KEK",,Anonymous,dont-tread-on-me.jpg,fBGLxDpJ2mhCCh8koqMPVQ==,US,,1495310728 126318674,126372412,2017-05-20 20:05:33,">The patriot movement is a collection of various conservative, independent, largely rural, small government,[1] social movements in the United States that include organized militia members, tax protesters, sovereign or state citizens, quasi-Christian apocalypticists/survivalists, and combinations thereof.[2] Adherents describe the movement as centered on a belief that individual liberties are in jeopardy due to unconstitutional actions taken by elected government officials, appointed bureaucrats, and some special interest groups outside of government, to illegally accumulate power.[3] Journalists and researchers have associated the patriot movement with the right-wing militia movement[4] and some in the movement with illegal acts of violence.[1][5][6] United States law enforcement groups ""call them dangerous, delusional and sometimes violent."" Top fucking kek, only in America",,Anonymous,physical remoawwwooool.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,PT,,1495310733 126318674,126372495,2017-05-20 20:06:20,">>126372045 he was too redpilled for his own good >McVeigh wrote letters to local newspapers complaining about taxes: >Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate ""promises,"" they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight. [...] Is a Civil War Imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn't come to that. But it might. seemed like he had been hinting for years, but feared that he might lose his shit >McVeigh hoped to inspire a revolt against the federal government. He was convicted of eleven federal offences and sentenced to death. Nichols was sentenced to 161 life terms without parole. basically he lost his shit and wanted to gas the government, tax wars now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495310780 126318674,126372811,2017-05-20 20:09:32,">>126372400 I praise snek.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495310972 126318674,126373026,2017-05-20 20:11:36,">>126372811 D u b s confirm it. Snek is the one true God. Let the sack of Kekistan begin!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495311096 126318674,126373185,2017-05-20 20:13:08,">>126373026 >>126372811 redditposting is a violation of the nap",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495311188 126318674,126373257,2017-05-20 20:13:46,">>126373026 Lol kekistan is for Sargon fanbois. PRAISE SNEK.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495311226 126318674,126373379,2017-05-20 20:15:04,">>126372209 what would a euro 3%ers group even be called? the offenders?",,Anonymous,USA USA USA.png,pqBPIEXNxjR29xMqU4Yu2Q==,US,,1495311304 126318674,126373500,2017-05-20 20:16:13,">>126373379 They wouldn't be called anything because everyone would be thrown in prison for many years because of ""extremist"" views.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495311373 126318674,126373506,2017-05-20 20:16:15,">>126373379 >freedom >liberty How are these different things?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495311375 126318674,126374044,2017-05-20 20:21:35,The Tea Party isn't even Libertarian.,,Anonymous,John McAfee headshot color RGB 72dpi.jpg,WK3gHEc5pRmIU/jv0HxLyg==,US,,1495311695 126318674,126374203,2017-05-20 20:23:01,">>126318674 Timothy ""the Holy truck of non-agression"" McVeigh Timothy ""what if the building consents tho"" McVeigh Timothy ""blow up the feds like your grandpa's heart on meds"" McVeigh Timothy ""physically removing a federal building"" McVeigh",,Anonymous,image.jpg,Z/oBb4TkrNh3wC5s9RYHkg==,FR,,1495311781 126318674,126374553,2017-05-20 20:26:45,">>126373500 jesus christ these guys even sell their own weapons with no background checks. I didn't think the memes would come to this",,Anonymous,neat.png,0dmOei1uLNEQlT5lCtLurw==,US,,1495312005 126318674,126374644,2017-05-20 20:27:36,anyone tired of the mars exploration bs people are pushing. it's just an excuse to blow through tax payer money,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495312056 126318674,126374698,2017-05-20 20:28:07,">>126374203 >Timothy ""blow up the feds like your grandpa's heart on meds"" McVeigh Excellent. I love it.",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1495312087 126318674,126374758,2017-05-20 20:28:44,">>126374644 Is the guberment funding that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495312124 126318674,126374925,2017-05-20 20:30:23,">>126374553 Just don't get involved with the IIIPercent Society run by one Sam kerodin, he's a scam artist just selling his crap",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495312223 126318674,126374998,2017-05-20 20:31:15,">>126374758 no shit senpai",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495312275 126318674,126375431,2017-05-20 20:35:24,">>126374698 Timothy ""one man minuteman"" McVeigh Timothy ""Locke's Glock is pointing your cock"" MVeigh Timothy ""another Waco and DC turns into Aleppo"" McVeigh Timothy ""delivering freedom since the CD-ROM"" McVeigh",,Anonymous,image.jpg,Ihc7xMiWE263B0iEXfFZxg==,FR,,1495312524 126318674,126375473,2017-05-20 20:35:51,">>126372177 Banks issue their own money ie bank notes. These notes would just be worthless bits paper; unless backed by something like gold. Banks would not be able to significantly loan more money than they actually have. Interest rates would likely vary between banks.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495312551 126318674,126375533,2017-05-20 20:36:23,">>126374203 >>126375431 top fucking kek, these are gold",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495312583 126318674,126376285,2017-05-20 20:44:12,">>126375431 Timothy ""the *director of the FBI agreed I was right"" McVeigh *Louis J. Freeh. He was much more careful about his wording of course, but internal memos authored by him basically said ""we fucked up and caused this"", and went on to make department-level changes in ROE policy to limit the chance of future Ruby Ridges",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495313052 126378980,126378980,2017-05-20 21:13:35,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - THE BEST DAMN GENERAL ON /POL/ EDITON,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,US,,1495314815 126378980,126379262,2017-05-20 21:16:41,All commies will get the airborne oven.,,Anonymous,oklahoma_00000.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,US,,1495315001 126378980,126379403,2017-05-20 21:18:16,">>126378980 Last one because I have no more inspiration Timothy ""every Statist is on my kill-list"" McVeigh Timothy ""Another Clinton and I release Amarggedon"" McVeigh Timothy ""Hippity Hoppity,bomb public property"" McVeigh Timothy ""not owning an AR-15 should be a sin"" McVeigh",,Anonymous,image.jpg,bNPgqY/s8l3+hv4V6NqZIg==,FR,,1495315096 126378980,126379463,2017-05-20 21:18:59,">>126379403 *armaggedon",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495315139 126378980,126379714,2017-05-20 21:21:34,">>126378980 bump",,Anonymous,1494081487150.png,g/yNYfh1jm4aI7ckxUtMsQ==,US,,1495315294 126378980,126379866,2017-05-20 21:23:08,"airborne ovens thank you slovak",,Anonymous,1495313186886.png,sg9S7/xd3WRC3tfQC2y8qA==,US,,1495315388 126378980,126379964,2017-05-20 21:24:12,">>126379403 thats great, that you for your service.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495315452 126378980,126380337,2017-05-20 21:28:11,Bump,,Anonymous,feels-good-man.jpg,69uRSDcp/oIxYWsVmmA3hQ==,US,,1495315691 126378980,126380347,2017-05-20 21:28:16,">>126379964 *thank >>126379866 im still working on that btw.",,Anonymous,Huey.png,WuNH72jFC6Dl4vLncj3UWQ==,US,,1495315696 126378980,126380552,2017-05-20 21:30:33,">>126380347 doing god's work. keep it up lad, i believe in you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495315833 126378980,126380680,2017-05-20 21:31:57,">>126380347 Nice. Needs a merchant nose peeking out the oven...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495315917 126378980,126380832,2017-05-20 21:33:31,">>126380680 yeah thats what I was thinking, you can't have your oven be empty!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495316011 126378980,126381270,2017-05-20 21:38:21,">>126379403 Timothy ""even the score using c4"" mcveigh Timothy ""hippity hoppity, now the fbi got no property"" mcveigh",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495316301 126378980,126381578,2017-05-20 21:41:58,finally a fucking dank general,,Anonymous,C4FFdZ8WAAEhd4a.jpg,niUrWoluq7kr4lG5o7EjIw==,US,,1495316518 126378980,126381668,2017-05-20 21:42:50,">>126381270 Timothy ""bomb the D.E.A. to protect your 2nd A"" Mcveigh",,Anonymous,1486775496029.png,1zksC+DiOZCzK0movLFyoQ==,US,,1495316570 126378980,126382170,2017-05-20 21:47:49,Bump,,Anonymous,all-the-oratory-of-the-advocates-of-government-omnipotence-cannot-9789127.png,pmXNkqgC3bKgsUwiuyQHKw==,GB,,1495316869 126378980,126382269,2017-05-20 21:48:49,">>126379403 Who's this?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1495316929 126378980,126382387,2017-05-20 21:49:59,"who? Timothy "" be a hero, nuke the bureau"" Mcveigh? He's our new Pinochet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495316999 126378980,126382419,2017-05-20 21:50:22,">>126382269 >>126382387",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495317022 126378980,126382442,2017-05-20 21:50:40,">>126382269 an absolute madman",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495317040 126378980,126382721,2017-05-20 21:53:35,">>126382269 >>126382387 >>126368918 >>126371253 >>126372495",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495317215 126378980,126382825,2017-05-20 21:54:47,"Timothy ""End the state with fertilizer nitrate"" Mcveigh",,Anonymous,9vBxLrDjIs95dVZWij8c9hSNNPhpgvxj_SqQOxGaV8A.jpg,G33yeVE2/V7fVXI/LWRDNg==,US,,1495317287 126378980,126382860,2017-05-20 21:55:03,">>126382387 >>126382442 Wikipedia says he was a terrorist that killed 168 innocent people.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1495317303 126378980,126382919,2017-05-20 21:55:43,">>126382269 Guy who bombed the oklahoma federal building exactly 2 years after waco, for revenge",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495317343 126378980,126382979,2017-05-20 21:56:27,">>126382860 No, he was on his way to church. he was a good boi.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495317387 126378980,126382995,2017-05-20 21:56:37,">>126382860 read why he did it, what pushed him off the edge much better than supreme gentleman shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495317397 126378980,126383033,2017-05-20 21:57:02,">>126382860 he is a living memeball >>126379262",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495317422 126378980,126383089,2017-05-20 21:57:40,">>126382995 Still he killed innocent people.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1495317460 126378980,126383312,2017-05-20 22:00:01,">>126383089 so did pinochet and hitler",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495317601 126378980,126383532,2017-05-20 22:02:04,">>126383312 they all dindu nuffin. its all lies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495317724 126378980,126383582,2017-05-20 22:02:39,">>126382860 The BATF framed randy weaver, then the FBI killed his wife and kid. Sniper shot his wife in the head while she was holding their 10 month old baby. FBI started a war with a harmless bunch of religious dudes at waco and basically burn them alive. The sniper, lon horiuchi, was at both btw. Mcveigh wanted payback",,Anonymous,hs-precision-2.jpg,0TI7OUDzHivpolYhvn/qTw==,GB,,1495317759 126378980,126384078,2017-05-20 22:07:43,,,Anonymous,snek (9).png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,US,,1495318063 126378980,126384161,2017-05-20 22:08:37,">>126379463 *armageddon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495318117 126378980,126384661,2017-05-20 22:14:11,">Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate ""promises,"" they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight. >The ""American Dream"" of the middle class has all but disappeared, substituted with people struggling just to buy next week's groceries. Heaven forbid the car breaks down! >Politicians are further eroding the ""American Dream"" by passing laws which are supposed to be a ""quick fix,"" when all they are really designed for is to get the official re-elected. These laws tend to ""dilute"" a problem for a while, until the problem comes roaring back in a worsened form (much like a strain of bacteria will alter itself to defeat a known medication). >Politicians are out of control. Their yearly salaries are more than an average person will see in a lifetime. They have been entrusted with the power to regulate their own salaries, and have grossly violated that trust to live in their own luxury.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495318451 126378980,126384677,2017-05-20 22:14:20,">Racism on the rise? You had better believe it! Is this America's frustrations venting themselves? Is it a valid frustration? Who is to blame for the mess? At a point when the world has seen communism falter as an imperfect system to manage people; democracy seems to be headed down the same road. No one is seeing the ""big"" picture. >Maybe we have to contribute ideologies to achieve the perfect utopian government. Remember, government-sponsored health care was a communist idea. Should only the rich be allowed to live long? Does that say that because a person is poor, he is a lesser human being; and doesn't deserve to live as long, because he doesn't wear a tie to work? >What is it going to take to open the eyes of our elected officials? America is in serious decline! >We have no proverbial tea to dump, should we instead sink a ship full of Japanese imports? Is a Civil War Imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn't come to that. But it might.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495318460 126378980,126384887,2017-05-20 22:17:02,">>126384661 >>126384677 were redpills too much for him?",,Anonymous,1494208883324.jpg,L/YzSozFCCGI9+Xx5pgNNw==,US,,1495318622 126378980,126385050,2017-05-20 22:18:41,">>126384887 He OD'd on redpills.",,Anonymous,1487200632601.jpg,RS+MRHvQsIjPGJEAyF9LSg==,US,,1495318721 126378980,126386058,2017-05-20 22:30:12,,,Anonymous,Physic7_2.jpg,97OIXt0svmP78aHC5I1i/w==,US,,1495319412 126378980,126386233,2017-05-20 22:31:53,">>126379403 Make 'em Pay McVeigh The Expropriator Eliminator Tim ""See a Fed, Kill 'im Dead"" McVeigh",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495319513 126378980,126386309,2017-05-20 22:32:48,">>126384887 Or too little for you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495319568 126378980,126386395,2017-05-20 22:33:42,">>126386309 nice try FBI",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495319622 126378980,126387925,2017-05-20 22:48:57,">>126378980 hey /lrg/ you guys are wrong becuase {unargued assertion} and {exaggerated claim} you {snarky comment}",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495320537 126378980,126388802,2017-05-20 22:58:24,">>126387925 Very funny Anon. We do need government, though. Without it we'd all be raping people in the streets--the dirt streets. Admit it, you're just a racist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495321104 126378980,126389523,2017-05-20 23:06:17,"lol u guys. https://8c h.net/liberty/res/55849.html#q55856",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495321577 126378980,126391071,2017-05-20 23:22:46,"Timothy ""they're unfit to govern, put them in the airborne oven"" Mcveigh Goodnight.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495322566 126378980,126391652,2017-05-20 23:29:17,">>126378980 >not posting at least some of the pastebin You're a faggot OP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495322957 126407941,126407941,2017-05-21 02:42:29,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), (((Friedman))), Pinochet, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - LATE NIGHT EDITION,Anonymous,1494536560128.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1495334549 126407941,126408060,2017-05-21 02:44:00,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1495334640 126407941,126408150,2017-05-21 02:45:14,"ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1495334714 126407941,126408287,2017-05-21 02:47:08,"GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T",,Anonymous,lrg_full.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1495334828 126407941,126408427,2017-05-21 02:48:52,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,1491343044497.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1495334932 126407941,126408491,2017-05-21 02:49:55,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU0",,Anonymous,1491683273326.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,US,,1495334995 126407941,126408698,2017-05-21 02:52:37,">>126407941 >Racist capitalists Literally the worst of both worlds. And the majority of white men. Gee, why would anyone want you exterminated?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495335157 126407941,126408798,2017-05-21 02:53:47,"Coming from a separate thread for wisdom Things I agree with: >Don't trust government to spend money on stupid shit >Don't try to help the people who can't help themselves in the first place, it's all for naught Things I don't understand: >how the fuck do I save my property from being stolen by the people who guard it >how to support any property or agreements legally, when there is no law not to bribe judges (and the wealthiest wins) >how is market completely ""free"" when you obviously have to travel and move goods (better placed production is at advantage) >there is a point in time when it's cheaper to have you assassinated (by one of your guards/employees) than to compete with you on the market (no consequences for the competitor) >at one point you'll have to resort to self-defense with firearms or bare hands (probably pretty soon and often) >how to use the money you got because your neighbor ruined local ecology to save it from becoming toxic wastes >the weapon producers becoming the new state",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495335227 126407941,126409417,2017-05-21 03:02:06,">>126407941 Daily Dose: https://youtu.be/detM0cKxWro https://youtu.be/oBSvUlkB61s",,Anonymous,1494357515956.jpg,wp2PoCMmeV2srK+igUpHAA==,US,,1495335726 126407941,126409433,2017-05-21 03:02:15,">>126408698 kys my man. anarcho-capitalism is simply an acknowledgement of the natural order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495335735 126407941,126409703,2017-05-21 03:05:31,">>126408698 Also: >my shitty leftist ideas aren't as good as yours and are based on head canon, so YOU NEED TO GO so my safe space can thrive",,Anonymous,1495148689452.gif,4zz8bcQQC9U+Nl+Bp4UNqA==,US,,1495335931 126407941,126410376,2017-05-21 03:15:35,">>126408798 For your questions about defense, give ""The Private Production of Defense"" a read. https://mises.org/files/private-production-defensepdf-0/download%3Ftoken%3Dgt9KXJI_&ved=0ahUKEwjCy7XvtYDUAhWBwiYKHQ0bBwwQFgghMAE&usg=AFQjCNHzMg7cgQ_yDjOj8M_lJHFFQ1225g I'm not as well read as I should be about this stuff >>126409417 >He thinks libertarianism leads to deneneracy.",,Anonymous,_20170521_030844.jpg,cjZ2hDw0oNsSJO7yu54Egw==,US,,1495336535 126407941,126410425,2017-05-21 03:16:47,">>126408798 >how the fuck do I save my property from being stolen by the people who guard it The security is probably hired from the HOA of the community you live in or the landlord of the apartment complex. They wouldn't be able to get away with this for long until the community cuts funding and hires someone else. >how to support any property or agreements legally, when there is no law not to bribe judges (and the wealthiest wins) This is where I can't see the case for ancap over minarchy. >how is market completely ""free"" when you obviously have to travel and move goods (better placed production is at advantage) That's how it has always been. ""Location, location, location"" is a common phrase in business. >there is a point in time when it's cheaper to have you assassinated (by one of your guards/employees) than to compete with you on the market (no consequences for the competitor) Can the state really artificially raise this price? >at one point you'll have to resort to self-defense with firearms or bare hands (probably pretty soon and often) An armed society is a polite society. Guns are used for self-defense millions of times a year, mostly without firing a shot (mostly they're used in a ""I got a gun, back off"" gesture). It's easy to get caught up in gun control since you'll never find the data if you don't look for it yourself, but all the data points to a pro-gun stance. You seem to be falling for the double standard ""it works if the state does it"" fallacy. The state is just one organization no different from any of the many competing organizations in a free market. You need to make a case for a monopoly having control over something, despite the problems that come with an enforced monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495336607 126407941,126411380,2017-05-21 03:31:53,>>126410376,,Anonymous,1495258856512.jpg,in5u+BNAOLbFJtmRWmvDag==,US,,1495337513 126407941,126412199,2017-05-21 03:45:07,>>126411380,,Anonymous,commies_get_OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,US,,1495338307 126407941,126412416,2017-05-21 03:48:59,"Put the website in the OP http://www.libertarianright.org/",,Anonymous,1492207377705.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,GB,,1495338539 126407941,126412839,2017-05-21 03:55:39,Im glad this is a thing now.,,Anonymous,anticommie.png,WcVLtvC2ftZMvYknL2oyWw==,US,,1495338939 126407941,126412981,2017-05-21 03:57:34,"Hey ancaps. What will you do if I organize a monarchy out of consenting community members? What happens if we start to outbreed you and use the property lines that we own as national borders?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495339054 126407941,126413228,2017-05-21 04:00:57,">>126410425 >Can the state really artificially raise this price? I say yes, and to pretty darn high levels since Kremlin inhabitants are still in place despite people with money (former citizens, mind you) wanting to get rid of them from overseas. And even if the president is assassinated, there is almost no way a random oligarchy puppet would take his place. >The state is just one organization no different from any of the many competing organizations in a free market. I try to understand, but I can't seem to imagine how another organization wouldn't become so large, that it would become the new state. There are hardly any brakes against that, as they would also have to be enforced by some authority. While there are cases when I would want to bribe a judge, more often I would like him to attest my rights free of charge just to save money. >>126410376 It refers to Hobbes argument from the start and I tend to agree. Why wouldn't I torture and kill other people if I won't be punished? Because they can defend themselves, you say? They why don't they get rid of me to stay safe? Because our power is equal? I don't see how this model would work for degenerates like me. It also has a lot to do with ""might makes right"" scenario, but instead of financial non-violent power (the whole purpose of ancap imo), it refers to threatening the invaders with guns. >>126412981 Good question",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495339257 126407941,126413595,2017-05-21 04:05:55,"NatSoc is the future Libertarianism needs to ditch the open borders",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495339555 126407941,126413696,2017-05-21 04:07:32,">>126413595 Natsoc is babby's first kneejerk reaction after watching The Greatest Story Never Told NRx is the future, as it was the past. >hurr durr let's just all work together! That has totally never worked, but somehow it will this time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495339652 126407941,126414885,2017-05-21 04:26:30,">>126413595 >open borders meme",,Anonymous,1491766381614.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,GB,,1495340790 126407941,126415291,2017-05-21 04:32:51,">>126409417 yeah, try being a degenerate faggot with no social safety net and complete right to discriminate see how far that gets you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495341171 126407941,126415440,2017-05-21 04:35:24,">>126413595 you can't have forced integration without roads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495341324 126407941,126416302,2017-05-21 04:48:49,">>126408060 : >Also we don't trade with our enemies Who exactly would stop anyone from trading with your enemies within your legal/economic system? If there's money to be made, someone is going to do it. And there isn't a state there to make such trading illegal.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495342129 126433374,126433374,2017-05-21 09:00:22,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - MI GENERAL EDITION,Anonymous,fully automated helicopter rides.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,SK,,1495357222 126433374,126433524,2017-05-21 09:02:01,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death! Also daily reminder that if it wasn't for the government, the U.S. would have remained a white country to this day, even the nogs would have been more prosperous.",,Anonymous,lrg and nsg.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,SK,,1495357321 126433374,126433573,2017-05-21 09:02:46,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1495357366 126433374,126433624,2017-05-21 09:03:22,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T",,Anonymous,hoppean removal now.jpg,d9GFGY1Y+gt+6L78F2Xijg==,SK,,1495357402 126433374,126433690,2017-05-21 09:04:17,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,hoppewave removalstetic.jpg,HhobU00CfjXpuE9AdlgNDA==,SK,,1495357457 126433374,126433758,2017-05-21 09:05:09,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,hoppe schwag.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,SK,,1495357509 126433374,126434159,2017-05-21 09:10:19,"dumb slovak bro links don't work next time you try to make a general pull it all from a pastebin or something",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495357819 126433374,126434486,2017-05-21 09:14:24,Like pb+j,,Anonymous,1494295007606.png,Ojlqu3jHhFdLO/PCLvrnlA==,US,,1495358064 126433374,126434603,2017-05-21 09:15:45,">>126433374 Always nice to see these threads",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495358145 126433374,126434672,2017-05-21 09:16:31,">>126434486 socialism is degeneracy, no matter who its victims and benefactors are",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495358191 126433374,126435420,2017-05-21 09:25:39,">>126434672 >Socialism is degeneracy This is literally correct, on a world-historical scale. You should read Shafarevich's The Socialist Phenomenon",,Anonymous,socialism.jpg,9RqSo06Ecku6VMixBTky4w==,ZA,,1495358739 126433374,126435593,2017-05-21 09:27:38,/pol/'s thoughts on this OC?,,Anonymous,political compass explained 05.png,BjEuPgAGCXUJVK+HBf9hgw==,ZA,,1495358858 126433374,126435711,2017-05-21 09:29:05,">>126435420 I've never read that particular book, but all information I'm aware of leads me to that conclusion. from a historical, economic or philosophical standpoint, socialism always leads to the mass physical and mental destruction of people",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495358945 126433374,126435808,2017-05-21 09:30:13,">>126435593 Very nerdy,but I like it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495359013 126433374,126436164,2017-05-21 09:34:08,">>126435593 looks excellent. Clean and informative without being biased to one side",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495359248 126433374,126436480,2017-05-21 09:37:35,">>126433374 I'm not really a libertarian but i see where you faggots are coming from. And i respect that,so yeah i'll gladly fight alongside you to get rid of communism,socialism and all other forms of leftist cancer. Nationalism all the way.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1495359455 126433374,126436666,2017-05-21 09:39:57,">>126433524 >The government does not own the land What stops encroachment from foreign powers ? Sounds like a good way to get Ukraine'd, and it prevents you from joining alliances like NATO as most of them require government dictated borders to allow military defense/intervention. >The roads Will i still be able to buy a foot-wide strip in the middle of the freeway and erect a foot-thick concrete wall, esentually rendering the rest of the road useless. Or set tolls absurdly high. Or buy the road outside of someone i hate/competitors buildings and make it non functional or economically impossible to use/ >No Yes you are don't lie. >Toss them out of helicopters again That's all well and good when you have a fully functioning country all set up, but on the way there you will be extremely susceptible to being crushed by other countries. How large do you think your country would have to be before you had people willing to invest in military hardware capable of competing with any world power or organised military ? Everyone think's they would be Rambo, but if history tells us anything it is almost always the exact opposite. At the very least a large portion of the population would not participate in the fight. And how would you defend from things like bombing runs or if someone just wanted to glass your country ?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495359597 126433374,126436911,2017-05-21 09:42:49,">>126435593 For a south african you really are good at this. In all honesty i haven't even thought of it. But i'm glad to see that my political compass resonated wtih these texts you have offered. Alas i am but a follower,not a leader in these matter so i will have to let others judge the validity of your work.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1495359769 126433374,126437091,2017-05-21 09:44:54,">>126436480 nationalism would naturally arise in a system where there is no forced equality. Without a state propping up cultural Marxist institutions, people will generally want to stick to their own. >>126436666 >Will i still be able to buy a foot-wide strip in the middle of the freeway and erect a foot-thick concrete wall, esentually rendering the rest of the road useless. Or set tolls absurdly high. if you can convince them to sell it to you, but someone who would allow that to happen is fucking retarded and would eventually ruin their business through other means >Or buy the road outside of someone i hate/competitors buildings and make it non functional or economically impossible to use/ once again, if you can convince someone to sell you his profitable road in order to make it non-profitable and waste your own money",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495359894 126433374,126437219,2017-05-21 09:46:21,">>126434159 I created the pastebin, but it keeps telling me it's spam. FUCK.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495359981 126433374,126437315,2017-05-21 09:47:36,">>126437219 put some spacing between em, also wassap slovak",,Anonymous,AmericaFirst.png,A1Ye6wU2YiOjsbKZtyEijw==,US,,1495360056 126433374,126437586,2017-05-21 09:50:39,"Timothy ""every Statist is on my kill-list"" McVeigh Timothy ""Another Clinton and I release Amarggedon"" McVeigh Timothy ""Hippity Hoppity,bomb public property"" McVeigh Timothy ""not owning an AR-15 should be a sin"" McVeigh Timothy ""even the score using c4"" mcveigh Timothy ""bomb the D.E.A. to protect your 2nd A"" Mcveigh Timothy "" be a hero, nuke the bureau"" Mcveigh Timothy ""End the state with fertilizer nitrate"" Mcveigh Make 'em Pay McVeigh The Expropriator Eliminator Tim ""See a Fed, Kill 'im Dead"" McVeigh Timothy ""they're unfit to govern, so put them in the airborne oven"" Mcveigh",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1495360239 126433374,126437688,2017-05-21 09:51:45,">>126437315 >mfw you try to do at least one of those five things and you get thousands of commies and niggers rioting Fuck my life",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495360305 126433374,126437754,2017-05-21 09:52:30,">>126436164 Thanks! Although I thought some Objectivist bias might be evident - good to know it doesn't come across that way.",,Anonymous,atlantis aint free.png,pLDqq0FGbjsggKsTZ5WvtA==,ZA,,1495360350 126433374,126437771,2017-05-21 09:52:43,">>126437586 >Timothy ""End the state with fertilizer nitrate"" Mcveigh ""end the state with ammonium nitrate"" sounds better and is more accurate",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495360363 126433374,126437803,2017-05-21 09:53:00,">>126433573 This is like the 3rd AnCap reading list I encountered. Looking at it, it's probably an updated version of one them (also called AnCap Studies, but the categories were called something else and there were less books). Pic related is the other one",,Anonymous,AnCap.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,CH,,1495360380 126433374,126437970,2017-05-21 09:54:59,">>126437754 >Although I thought some Objectivist bias might be evident I thought so too, but I think the way it's written makes it seem like it's biased to whatever philosophy you personally put stock in",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495360499 126433374,126438151,2017-05-21 09:57:04,">>126437586 top fucking kek",,Anonymous,oklahoma_00000.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,PT,,1495360624 126433374,126438236,2017-05-21 09:58:09,">>126437586 Timothy ""the holy truck pf non-agression "" McVeigh Timothy ""what of the building consents tho "" McVeigh Timothy ""blow up the feds like your grandpa's heart on meds "" McVeigh Timothy ""physically removing a federal building "" McVeigh Timothy ""one man minuteman "" McVeigh Timothy ""Locke's Glock is pointing your cock "" McVeigh Timothy ""another Waco and DC turns into Aleppo "" McVeigh Timothy ""delivering freedom since the CD-ROM "" McVeigh We should include him into /ourguys/ list",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495360689 126433374,126438279,2017-05-21 09:58:34,">>126437091 >if you can convince them to sell it to you Or if i built the roads myself/funded them myself. That seems extremely silly as it basically makes transport of goods and services dependent on not having someone like me who would charge a $500/ft toll charge on my 1 foot of highway. >but someone who would allow that to happen is fucking retarded and would eventually ruin their business through other means I would assume that once people realized that they could essentially buy free moneymakers for a meager investment, there would be a rather lucrative road selling business. if any major port or entrance to your cities was gated by a single road you could essentially shut down all transport in/out of the city by forcing people to either pay ludicrous tolls or spend 5 hours in traffic taking an alternative way on single-carriageways. >can convince someone to sell you his profitable road ... If i can shut down a competitor by buying like 40 square ft of road circling their distribution/warehouses driveways and blocking it off or charging 1 million/ft traveled. that is a profit for me killing off a competitive business is a massive net positive. In this situation roads are essentially power, whoever owns the rights to transport could control the city. They could enforce selective tolls, deny specific business entrance, creating or maintain monopolies, if you own the roads you chose what goes in and what goes out, you are basically a dictator. A single person could cripple a city for minimal financial gain (like betting against stocks then shutting down roads that lead to the company) or extort anyone who wants to get in or out of the city (entry is free, exit is $500). Like holy shit, fuck making minimal monetary gains on a tollway when you can hold millions of people and their lives at ransom.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495360714 126433374,126438355,2017-05-21 09:59:28,">>126438151 the only thing McVeigh did wrong was kill kids [spoiler:lit]and get caught[/spoiler:lit]",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495360768 126433374,126438546,2017-05-21 10:01:30,"friendly bump. BUT >Molyneux >great tier He's a self-proclaimed intellectual, no better or more reliable than fucking [insert random tranny faggot vlog shitter on YT]",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495360890 126433374,126438805,2017-05-21 10:05:04,">>126438355 I'm sure I am two Wacos away of agreeing with everything you said.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495361104 126433374,126438808,2017-05-21 10:05:06,">>126438279 toll roads would operate under a Laffer curve. If you're doing business in good faith then you'll eventually find the ideal ratio between the cost of a toll and how many people will pay it. If you're doing business in bad faith then you'll get out competed in the long run by someone else >If i can shut down a competitor by buying like 40 square ft of road circling their distribution/warehouses driveways and blocking it off or charging 1 million/ft traveled. that is a profit for me killing off a competitive business is a massive net positive. under this assumption it would be ludicrous for any major corporation to not own significant portions of road that was essential to their operations",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495361106 126433374,126438838,2017-05-21 10:05:25,">>126438236 No doubt /ourguy/ >>126438546 I've been on and off the molymemes train for years. He best serves as ourguy.",,Anonymous,1488752319484.jpg,CqIC18Eh7/OI6pdEeY2W5Q==,US,,1495361125 126433374,126439179,2017-05-21 10:09:15,">>126438279 > That seems extremely silly as it basically makes transport of goods and services dependent on not having someone like me who would charge a $500/ft toll charge on my 1 foot of highway. First of all I really do hope you are trolling or just doing this as some fun thought experiment. These wacky scenarios can easily be deployed against you. > if any major port or entrance to your cities was gated by a single road you could essentially shut down all transport in/out of the city by forcing people to either pay ludicrous tolls or spend 5 hours in traffic taking an alternative way on single-carriageways. Can you think of a modern city today with one entrance and exit? > If i can shut down a competitor by buying like 40 square ft of road circling their distribution/warehouses driveways and blocking it off or charging 1 million/ft traveled. that is a profit for me killing off a competitive business is a massive net positive. Your competitor will have likely bought the land surrounding him before you. > A single person could cripple a city for minimal financial gain (like betting against stocks then shutting down roads that lead to the company) or extort anyone who wants to get in or out of the city (entry is free, exit is $500). People could build other roads? > Like holy shit, fuck making minimal monetary gains on a tollway when you can hold millions of people and their lives at ransom. I get your Australian and that our sun and school system have done wonders to your brain but come on.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495361355 126433374,126439421,2017-05-21 10:11:57,">>126438808 >toll roads would operate under a Laffer curve. You are assuming that toll way companies would run the same way they currently do while under heavy government regulation. especially when they could easily extort out much larger fees. >you'll get out competed in the long run by someone else The cost of road maintenance is minimal, even less when there is no government tax on it, codes requiring its upkeep. For a small investment you could essentially fuck over a large city for decades, possibly even hundreds of years if you passed it down for little more than the cost of the initial investment. >under this assumption it would be ludicrous for any major corporation to not own significant portions of road that was essential to their operations That is true, but then it leads to a scenario where everything is roads. If a company has it's own road, you know they would likely have it mostly shut down for priority transport of their goods. And every competitor would need their own roads. Transport anywhere would be a clusterfuck of truly epic proportions.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495361517 126433374,126439454,2017-05-21 10:12:15,"Btw I still intend on delivering, just taking my sweet ass time.",,Anonymous,Huey.png,94es4GYfmexopmBhPAkBOg==,US,,1495361535 126433374,126439815,2017-05-21 10:16:34,">>126439454 Nice",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495361794 126433374,126439820,2017-05-21 10:16:36,">>126439421 > You are assuming that toll way companies would run the same way they currently do while under heavy government regulation. especially when they could easily extort out much larger fees. You really do not understand basic economics. Try and understand supply and demand before you embarrass yourself. If you charge say people $9 to drive on a toll road in one direction, you hike it (in your meth addled brain) to $500. People won't drive on your road. In fact people will prop up other roads around you and undercut you (that is charge less than you). In the meanwhile your profits fall, your shareholders launch lawsuits against you, your employees demand their wages, the banks requires you make your interest repayment and so do the rest of your creditors. > For a small investment you could essentially fuck over a large city for decades, possibly even hundreds of years if you passed it down for little more than the cost of the initial investment. You'd probably be killed by someone > If a company has it's own road, you know they would likely have it mostly shut down for priority transport of their goods. And every competitor would need their own roads. Transport anywhere would be a clusterfuck of truly epic proportions Look I know you think you've made an argument but you haven't. It's premised on a very unlikely probability.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495361796 126433374,126440065,2017-05-21 10:19:08,">>126439421 >For a small investment you could essentially fuck over a large city for decades, possibly even hundreds of years if you passed it down for little more than the cost of the initial investment. until someone builds another road and then doesn't fuck people with it >If a company has it's own road, you know they would likely have it mostly shut down for priority transport of their goods. I think you have very little understanding of how logistics works. A company that's so large it has to shut down roads to reliably distribute its product would be better served decentralizing its operations to ensure a more efficient spread of its logistics trains >And every competitor would need their own roads. unless it's mutually optimal for them to use the same road >Transport anywhere would be a clusterfuck of truly epic proportions. clusterfucks are bad for business, a health economy would ensure the road system is as efficient as possible",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495361948 126433374,126440146,2017-05-21 10:19:54,">>126439179 >These wacky scenarios can easily be deployed against you. I wouldn't be retarded enough to live in a city where transport had no regulation and was privately owned. >Can you think of a modern city today with one entrance and exit? Manhattan island. But realistically pretty-much every city has 2-3 ""main"" exits that are capable of handling traffic flow in/out of the city. It would be gridlock for miles if everyone was forced to use residential streets or non-main roads to exit a city. >Your competitor will have likely bought the land surrounding him before you. Ok, but that means new businesses have issues fostering if they cant afford to buy the roads around them. And how far out would they have to own them ? They could own the road right from the warehouse to the store, but if i own that last foot they are fucked. If i own enough road that it forces them to use transport that is not economically efficient they are fucked. If i own the roads near any transport infrastructure (ports, train stations etc) they are fucked. And when that company crumbles i could just buy their road and expand my monopoly empire. >People could build other roads? Sure, they could. But not instantly. building roads takes an ass-load of time. Long enough for people to get fired from not going to work or deciding they don't want to spend 5 hours diving to work because i thought it would be hilarious. But even then, what stops someone else from doing the same on the new road ? How many roads would you need before someone like me stopped doing this ? >I get your Australian and that our sun and school system have done wonders to your brain but come on. It not my fault you guys are thinking way to small time on this",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495361994 126433374,126440548,2017-05-21 10:23:58,">>126440146 > I wouldn't be retarded enough to live in a city where transport had no regulation and was privately owned. Yet many countries have private roads. > And when that company crumbles i could just buy their road and expand my monopoly empire. No you economic illiterate that wouldn't happen. You'd be out of money. Look the only reason you're able to conjure these examples is because you've never worked and/or ran a business. > It not my fault you guys are thinking way to small time on this It's not my fault you're ignorant on the great body of literature and are rehashing debunked arguments",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495362238 126433374,126440768,2017-05-21 10:25:55,">>126439820 >You really do not understand basic economics Mate, you think the 10/day toll that millions of people a day pay is the saturation point ? You could easily charge 30-50 dollars and people living in outer suburbs would still pay it to avoid spending half their free time in traffic. At the moment almost all toll ways have tolls set low due to government intervention to prevent absurd prices. And having higher profit users on roads is a net benefit, less users = less ware = less maintenance. You could charge out the ass and still make it just as profitable. > In the meanwhile your profits fall, your shareholders launch lawsuits against you This is a private holding of land, fully funded by me, not owned by a corporation. >You'd probably be killed by someone They could try, i wouldn't want to live there with the roads being so shit. If i had to i'd have my private security force TM protecting me as much as possible. >It's premised on a very unlikely probability. It's unlikely that a single person will realize they can basically fuck everyone or get really rich by employing these tactics ?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495362355 126433374,126440770,2017-05-21 10:25:56,">>126440146 >buy all the roads on earth >make them so expensive no one can use them legally >bleed money on operating costs while everyone else saves by using your roads without paying a truly foolproof plan",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495362356 126433374,126441127,2017-05-21 10:29:27,">>126440065 >until someone builds another road and then doesn't fuck people with it Yeah good luck with that. > A company that's so large it has to shut down roads I didn't say shut down, i said prioritize, as in have a lane dedicated for their transport only. For large decentralized companies the tactic would be less effective, but it would easily shut down any up-and comping competition of mid-sized companies. > mutually optimal for them to use the same road Its quite clearly not if i would be trying to force them out of business by charging out the ass or refusing them use of my roads. >clusterfucks are bad for business, a health economy would ensure the road system is as efficient as possible Aye, they are, which is why this road system that could easily be crippled doesn't sound like a great idea.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495362567 126433374,126441383,2017-05-21 10:31:51,">>126441127 then I just use your roads illegally, wait until you sue me and then buy off all the judges who will then declare that the roads belong to me because of squatter's rights checkmate kiddo",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495362711 126433374,126441578,2017-05-21 10:33:39,">>126440548 >Yet many countries have private roads. With government regulations stating what they can and cant do on them. I have a 4km private road and i have a list as long as my arm of the condition i need to keep it in for use by emergency vehicles and to avoid lawsuits. >You'd be out of money Yeah because maintaining monopolies has always been a massive net negative towards the companies controlling the monopolies. That's why raising barriers of entry for starting a business are completely irrelevant. >rehashing debunked arguments because yall have no real good answers for ""what happens if rich people decide to be cunts""",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495362819 126433374,126441689,2017-05-21 10:34:38,">>126441383 >then I just use your roads illegally Good thing i have my private security force (TM) armed and watching the roads to shoot intruders violating the NAP ;^)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495362878 126433374,126441731,2017-05-21 10:35:07,">>126441689 nope, I paid them all off. They're double agents and they help me use your roads",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495362907 126433374,126441911,2017-05-21 10:36:31,">>126433374 friendly reminder that Geolibertarinism and the Single tax can save capitalism",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1495362991 126433374,126441963,2017-05-21 10:36:59,">>126441731 I paid inspectors to fire the guys who took bribes and inspector inspectors to fire the inspectors who took bribes and so on and so fourth. inspectors all the way up. Gg no re, isnt ancap society wonderful",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495363019 126433374,126442139,2017-05-21 10:38:31,">>126441963 >I paid inspectors to fire the guys who took bribes and inspector inspectors to fire the inspectors who took bribes and so on and so fourth. inspectors all the way up. sounds like your operating costs are pretty high, how do you make money to pay all those inspectors with no one paying your tolls?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495363111 126433374,126442171,2017-05-21 10:38:49,"Geolibertarianism is the belief that each individual has an exclusive right to the fruits of his or her labor, and thus an exclusive right to the value of those fruits; and that all individuals have an equal right to land, and thus an equal right to the value of land. By embracing this belief, geolibertarians are simply taking the core libertarian principle of self-ownership to its logical conclusion: Just as the right to oneself implies the right to the fruit of one's labor (i.e., the right to property), the right to the fruit of one's labor implies the right to labor, and the right to labor implies the right to labor -- somewhere. Hence John Locke's proviso that one has ""property"" in land only to the extent that there is ""enough, and as good left in common for others."" When there is not, land begins to have rental value. Thus, the rental value of land reflects the extent to which Locke's proviso has been violated, thereby making community-collection of rent (CCR) a just and necessary means of upholding the Lockean principle of private property. In the late 19th century, CCR became known as the ""Single Tax"" -- a term often used to denote Henry George's proposal to abolish all taxation save for a single tax on the value of land (irrespective of the value of improvements in or on it).",,What Is Geolibertarianism?,game-design-3-638.jpg,aFcFBJvxgU7NP2S7iy2Ijw==,US,,1495363129 126433374,126442230,2017-05-21 10:39:24,What do you guys think of Jordan Peterson?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495363164 126433374,126442242,2017-05-21 10:39:28,">>126441911 This triggers the geofag.",,Anonymous,AnCap_Landlord.png,lv6tF0xgYlGukqt4Xyg3iA==,US,,1495363168 126433374,126442288,2017-05-21 10:39:54,">>126442139 >sounds like your operating costs are pretty high, how do you make money to pay all those inspectors with no one paying your tolls? Oh i just let them keep the bribes they find their lower employees are taking, its a completely self-sustaining economic ecosystem as long as bribes are regularly fed in.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495363194 126433374,126442385,2017-05-21 10:40:38,>not signing a contract with the network of landowners to automate the means of removal,,Anonymous,FREE RIDES.jpg,wqvhVYBsmATA6KtATe70TA==,US,,1495363238 126433374,126442486,2017-05-21 10:41:32,">>126442230 Haven't seen much of him but I like listening to him trashing marxists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495363292 126433374,126442534,2017-05-21 10:42:00,">>126440768 > At the moment almost all toll ways have tolls set low due to government intervention to prevent absurd prices. The prices are determined by the market. Read some price theory. > And having higher profit users on roads is a net benefit, less users = less ware = less maintenance. There's a balance to be had. Of course various toll roads could be for various people. The more affluent could pay more and have less traffic. > You could charge out the ass and still make it just as profitable. Further validating my point that you are an economic illiterate > This is a private holding of land, fully funded by me, not owned by a corporation. You would have to have loads of money to blow. Again very unlikey. What's the likelihood you'd be the only toll road providers.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495363320 126433374,126442616,2017-05-21 10:42:46,">>126442486 I assume you listened to his podcast with Rogen?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495363366 126433374,126442666,2017-05-21 10:43:15,">>126442242 i could care less about the racism desu the problem is that man is skimming unearned wealth off the backs of laborers. Think about all the taxes the wealthy pay right now to support his tenants? Is it okay that he just collects those benefits? Does that false charity even help anyone? nope",,What Is Geolibertarianism?,willy.jpg,f5IEpTYdzB/nJ7KEauYaCQ==,US,,1495363395 126433374,126442826,2017-05-21 10:44:36,">>126441578 > That's why raising barriers of entry for starting a business are completely irrelevant. Your ignorance knows the no bounds. It's an undisputed fact big corporations pass legislation to increase the overhead of competing smaller firms >>126441963 You haven't responded to my previous points. Rather you've gone on a autistic tangent. I mean that's fine. >>126442230 Hack",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495363476 126433374,126442893,2017-05-21 10:45:12,">>126442616 yeah",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495363512 126433374,126443037,2017-05-21 10:46:20,">>126442288 I stop bribing your guards and the inspectors start confiscating their wages thinking they're bribes. Your guards revolt and work for me since I was the one paying them anyway >>126442242 what the fuck is wrong with England that plumbers are a low income profession?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495363580 126433374,126443076,2017-05-21 10:46:37,">>126442666 squatters can go fuck themselves, you wanna live in my building you gotta pay rent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495363597 126433374,126443135,2017-05-21 10:47:06,">>126442230 Breddy gud desu. Although I really don't like his arguments for/from (((faith))) (which he calls ""the transcendental) and his identification of the cause of dogmatic ideologies (such as Communism) as 'pure reason' - as if it is reason that justifies totalitarianism, and we need some kind of mystic spirit beyond reason to repudiate it. Mysticism, whether in religious or (((dialectical))) terms, is the philosophical root of dictatorship. Also, his view of life as being, fundamentally, suffering, and of love as the desire to see suffering alleviated, is completely backwards and dangerous. I think he's got a lot of interesting things to say, but I wouldn't send my kid to him for psychological treatment.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1495363626 126433374,126443212,2017-05-21 10:47:47,">>126433374 Who do you vote for, Slovak-kun?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495363667 126433374,126443428,2017-05-21 10:49:41,">In all seriousness, why is Right-wing Libertarianism becoming so authoritarian? The cucks know, SHUT IT DOWN.",,Anonymous,TriggeredLOLbertarians.png,K+8OWFY63SI09GLBWIGoRg==,US,,1495363781 126433374,126443561,2017-05-21 10:50:35,">>126442534 >The prices are determined by the market Read government regulation in regards to tollways. The price tollways charge is not determined by the market, it is determined by government regulations in the various roadways acts and related documents. >There's a balance to be had. Of course various toll roads could be for various people. The more affluent could pay more and have less traffic. Of course there is. Thats what im saying. You could assfuck the majority of the population for shits n gigs and still make money. >Further validating my point that you are an economic illiterate You agree with me, they accuse me of being economically illiterate ? >You would have to have loads of money to blow. Again very unlikely. What's the likelihood you'd be the only toll road providers. I mean sure, people who could do this wouldn't be common, nor would they have to be the only toll road providers, but given construction speeds of roadways combined with poor city planning, more often than not districts with high amounts of industry or business have very few efficient choices for transporting goods. They either take the tollway or double their transport costs taking the longer route.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495363835 126433374,126443594,2017-05-21 10:50:53,"Something that worries me about these threads is the complete lack of mention of neoclassical economic thought. Not that people have to be neoclassical here, just that all that is mentioned is Austrianism. (Not that people talk much about economics anyway, with the exception of Georgistfag)",,Anonymous,1486343018817.jpg,YWkPeiWXNFC3nWJ3IJYLPg==,AU,,1495363853 126433374,126443849,2017-05-21 10:53:02,">>126443561 What is the likelihood you'd have this toll road monopoly in place before anyone else built or before anyone else had built toll roads? Also how many people would possess the wealth you had? Now if you calculate the probability you get a very low number, such a number does not justify public roads which are inefficient.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495363982 126433374,126443859,2017-05-21 10:53:05,Strasserists report in,,Anonymous,strasserism.jpg,Qg7O3uQm18pCb5NTz+T72Q==,GB,,1495363985 126433374,126443880,2017-05-21 10:53:14,">>126443037 >I stop bribing your guards and the inspectors start confiscating their wages thinking they're bribes. Your guards revolt and work for me since I was the one paying them anyway Well i wasn't paying them anyway because you were bribing ""all of them"" and most of them were fired before their first paycheck. But thankfully due to you infinite paying of my guards i essentially had a free workforce that i was using for menial labor that eventually provided enough capital to move to a country that isn't an absolute shi-thole thanks to my road program.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495363994 126433374,126444013,2017-05-21 10:54:22,">>126443859 >strassholes want to do away with personal property",,Anonymous,Prince of Helicopters.jpg,wS9YpzkZk92EN3C+YDcuJQ==,US,,1495364062 126433374,126444059,2017-05-21 10:54:47,">>126442826 >Your ignorance knows the no bounds. It's an undisputed fact big corporations pass legislation to increase the overhead of competing smaller firms Im not sure if you are autistic, pissed off, or simply missed the sarcasm there. >You haven't responded to my previous points You haven't made any, you have basically just said ""i dont think that would happen""",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495364087 126433374,126444112,2017-05-21 10:55:05,">>126443859 lol, i think you meant to post in /cg/ faggot.",,Anonymous,NatSocLovesME.png,+VbSf9ozvaP9S/MDD3JH4Q==,US,,1495364105 126433374,126444134,2017-05-21 10:55:13,,,Anonymous,16266080_10154962393947264_6038716331771651702_n.jpg,reS/mlb0Ufr1+/5/g70Xgg==,IE,,1495364113 126433374,126444623,2017-05-21 10:59:05,">>126443076 Of course you do. You're missing the point. Georgism is not against private property at all. In fact it is in defense of property rights against socialism. Georgism seeks to distribute what should be held in commons, not by the government, to the communities that add value to it. Exclusive use /= ownership read pic related",,What Is Geolibertarianism?,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1495364345 126433374,126445108,2017-05-21 11:02:43,">>126443849 >What is the likelihood you'd have this toll road monopoly in place before anyone else built or before anyone else had built toll roads? You dont need a total monopoly, you only need control over either specific sections of roadway or the so called ""arterial"" roads. Or if you wanted to be a cunt,very, very small sections near important roads that make using the important roads nearly worthless. >Also how many people would possess the wealth you had Global wealth data bank says there's about 100k people in the us with 50m+ in net worth (easily capable of building a reasonably sized tollway). Or about 33 people per 100k population. An average city has like what 2-4 million people. On average you would have a few hundred people with the capital and likely the motive to try something like that if it could guarantee them a monopoly, or at the very least highly dis-incentivise competition. And at worst could fuck everyone in the city to the point of making it practically non-functional because they thought it would be funny.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495364563 126433374,126445269,2017-05-21 11:03:55,"Just bought 2 Hoppe books >A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism >Democracy: The God That Failed Which should I read first?",,Anonymous,thats a great smash.jpg,BYzfAIhVqAtRrHwTXuS6vA==,AU,,1495364635 126433374,126445302,2017-05-21 11:04:11,Is there a more red-pilled activity than 3D printing your own guns?,,Anonymous,1488739999641.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1495364651 126433374,126445655,2017-05-21 11:07:01,">>126445269 Democracy. It's a better smash. And you'll get a hefty dose of black-coated red-pill.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495364821 126433374,126445663,2017-05-21 11:07:03,Who is your favourite senator and why is it Rand Paul?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495364823 126433374,126445914,2017-05-21 11:09:08,">>126443594 Why dont neoclassicals recognize land is a unique aspect of production? Neoclassical school was created to wipe georgism from history and sadly its basically worked You might be one of the few people itt that would enjoy this http://masongaffney.org/publications/K1Neo-classical_Stratagem.CV.pdf",,What Is Geolibertarianism?,,,US,,1495364948 126433374,126445945,2017-05-21 11:09:20,">>126445655 That's why I was thinking of reading it second. Also he wrote it second",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495364960 126433374,126446055,2017-05-21 11:10:24,">>126445302 Bombing federal buldings But that happens when you reach a redpill overdose so you must be careful",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495365024 126433374,126446265,2017-05-21 11:12:29,"Please debunk this, I dare you.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495365149 126433374,126446661,2017-05-21 11:16:29,">>126445945 Good point. I haven't read the other one so I couldn't tell, but supposedly it's his first masterpiece. Whichever one you choose, you're going to enjoy it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495365389 126433374,126447558,2017-05-21 11:25:17,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495365917 126433374,126447650,2017-05-21 11:26:07,">>126445108 They could be killed?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495365967 126433374,126447735,2017-05-21 11:26:58,">>126446265 I don't think it can be debunked, only criticized what level of support for socialism is aggression, and how involved does that support have to be? Is it possible to say for sure? Who decides if it's unclear?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495366018 126433374,126447938,2017-05-21 11:28:57,">>126447735 yeah I had a similar thought. I don't think it can be objectively determined how involved someone must be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495366137 126433374,126448062,2017-05-21 11:30:11,">>126447650 They are rich and living in an ancap society, they would likely have a personal army, and probably not actually live in a city where they would cause this shit. It's kinda like saying ""you could kill a world leader"", like yeah, you totally could, but for most people that is not a reasonable solution nor will it solve the problem if the land/road is passed down to a now pissed off heir. Bobby billionaire in current first world countries have security teams to prevent kidnapping/ransom situations. I doubt they would care less in an ancap society.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495366211 126433374,126448314,2017-05-21 11:32:42,">>126445108 How would you get a hold of these arterial roads? Again here you are deflecting my questions and then you trance around like you've won the argument. Tre autistique Why would anyone sell you the arterial roads? Why wouldn't there already be competing toll roads in and out of the city? 50mil? Try a few hundred million http://www.baka.com.au/business/if-you-thought-using-a-toll-road-was-costly-try-building-one-20140810-102i5o.html",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495366362 126433374,126448956,2017-05-21 11:38:27,">>126447938 realistically I think you can only fully justify it in a situation like the climax of Atlas Shrugged. You'd have to exhaustively describe and prove your ideology before you go ""..and anyone who disagrees gets a helicopter ride""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495366707 126433374,126449574,2017-05-21 11:45:11,">>126448314 >How would you get a hold of these arterial roads? By building them, buying them or building/buying the roads on the offramps. Where do you think these roads come from ? Will your ancap city just poof into existence, fully functional with all infrastructure already built ? > Again here you are deflecting my questions and then you trance around like you've won the argument. Im not deflecting anything, im giving you answers and your getting more and more pissed off. >Tre autistique Oh vey >Why would anyone sell you the arterial roads? The same reason government sells the roads, they either don't want to take care of them anymore, cant afford to take care of them, or you offer them enough money for them to sell it. > Why wouldn't there already be competing toll roads in and out of the city? First of all, there would be, as in your little ancap society, all the roads would be toll roads (as per the first response in this chain). Every street is a toll road, every highway and dirt road a tollway. But if you are talking roads worth taking (IE high-way style tollways) the answer is your next statement >50mil? Try a few hundred million First of all, it's 50m+ as in 50m-several hundred million/billion. Im not even going to read the article, i am fully aware that road cost of current tollways range from 2-8m/km for a 4-lane tollway that requires land acquisition. You seem to have missed the point where all roads in an ancap society are tollways. and the fact they would have to be built before the city was created, massively reducing the cost of them due to not needing to buy houses at retail prices. A small 10/km 4-lane tollway in the country costs about 20m, within range of someone with a net value of over 50m+. But you dont need to do even that, as all ancap roads are tollways, you could simply buy/build the roads just past the on/off-ramps of said freeway style tollways and block them off.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495367111 126433374,126451938,2017-05-21 12:08:37,bump,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495368517 126433374,126453576,2017-05-21 12:23:20,"How is Ancapistan different than seizing the property and business you already legally own and calling in an independent state? And what if large corporations start forming alliances to create monopolies and eventually restore the state as you see it? The biggest caveat I see is that if you want freedom of government oppression you need the means to defend yourself and your property, that you should already be able to get, since you wouldn't have time to get those after the state is overthrown.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495369400 126433374,126453991,2017-05-21 12:27:15,,,Anonymous,aots.png,reQXYuvJ3GUbqOKXVFDstA==,US,,1495369635 126433374,126456679,2017-05-21 12:53:31,,,Anonymous,file.png,k1Ux4qJdxhkywLvktvlM9g==,GB,,1495371211 126433374,126457279,2017-05-21 12:59:20,">>126453576 the biggest problem with ancapism is that it requires most people (or at least, the people representing the majority of human competence) to adhere to Objectivism or a similar philosophy that supports voluntaryism. How we get there is hard to see, but it would involve significant social upheaval",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495371560 126433374,126458028,2017-05-21 13:07:43,">>126438279 >implying you wouldn't get physically removed nigger if your job is to be a nuisance I regret to inform you there's not much demand for that",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495372063 126433374,126458146,2017-05-21 13:08:59,">>126439454 YES I LOVE YOU NO HOMO",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495372139 126433374,126458324,2017-05-21 13:10:42,">>126433374 >im a libertarian >i support pinochet who restricted free speech on mass with a state RE-FUCKING-TARDED AHISTORICAL AUTISM BULLSHIT",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495372242 126433374,126458357,2017-05-21 13:11:06,">>126453991 >economics in one lesson Does not exist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495372266 126433374,126458363,2017-05-21 13:11:08,">>126458146 No worries, taking breaks working on it bits at a time. Any suggestions to make it Xtra spicy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495372268 126433374,126458584,2017-05-21 13:13:34,">>126458324 Lol. Don't be a fag, perhaps Timothy ""End the state with ammonium nitrate"" McVeigh is more /ourgoy/ but still pino is a cool dictator.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495372414 126433374,126458696,2017-05-21 13:14:54,">>126443212 Only recently reached 18, so I haven't yet. Sulík is getting more red-pilled, but I plan on starting my own party.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495372494 126433374,126458816,2017-05-21 13:15:55,">>126443859 You get the airborne oven.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495372555 126433374,126459132,2017-05-21 13:19:07,">>126445663 He's aight. Totally don't have an entire folder of his facial expressions, not at all.",,Anonymous,my rand folder.png,jDOAd6f3QbaGTtrbr3DkDQ==,SK,,1495372747 126433374,126459348,2017-05-21 13:21:27,">>126458324 >t. gommie A I R B O R N E",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495372887 126433374,126459544,2017-05-21 13:23:19,">>126458363 Hang nooses with Obama, H. Clinton, (((Soros))) and (((Feinstein))) on the landers.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495372999 126433374,126459940,2017-05-21 13:27:18,">>126459544 Will do. None shall be safe on the day of the removal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495373238 126433374,126460669,2017-05-21 13:34:21,">>126459132 Respectable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495373661 126433374,126463035,2017-05-21 13:55:59,RIP thread,,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1495374959 126433374,126464044,2017-05-21 14:05:07,,,Anonymous,15178286_1605565166405714_2688104715000018670_n.jpg,r2MpFl2HYg7xmj6EL90q/A==,US,,1495375507 126433374,126464333,2017-05-21 14:07:45,">>126463035 I'm still open for discussion >>126453576",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495375665 126433374,126466049,2017-05-21 14:23:30,bump,,Anonymous,14953770104737727151767496756875.jpg,mF2e6sOP1IQJNW5TBFrhkA==,GB,,1495376610 126433374,126466823,2017-05-21 14:30:33,">>126453576 I think you're right, especially about defending your property. The best thing you can do if you're serious is buy land and be as self sustainable as possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495377033 126433374,126467519,2017-05-21 14:37:00,bump,,Anonymous,icon.jpg,LHMPszAi3jMC5DHpxhJwfw==,US,,1495377420 126433374,126468211,2017-05-21 14:43:00,">>126442230 Good. Guy must be heartbroken c16 passed. People generally underestimate the power of myth and allegory - jung got it, and Peterson does a great job in explaining why many things, although objectively false (or at least unprovable) still have great value. He helps people get their heads sorted, bucko.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495377780 126433374,126468949,2017-05-21 14:49:53,Bump,,Anonymous,CN6QyKpWwAAisyF.jpg,pA5usxwI6CfANN1LcH1GMQ==,GB,,1495378193 126433374,126469203,2017-05-21 14:52:12,,,Anonymous,arab_ball.png,uRNuxpmz3ZZ7Tesh3MVZQg==,US,,1495378332 126433374,126469246,2017-05-21 14:52:33,,,Anonymous,hippity_hoppity_cant_afford_property_16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,US,,1495378353 126433374,126469808,2017-05-21 14:57:27,,,Anonymous,Uncle-hans1.jpg,X2boMDRl5Ps/mtSYpyFjnA==,GB,,1495378647 126433374,126469834,2017-05-21 14:57:42,,,Anonymous,HansHermannHoppe.jpg,xtPkhK2GHLtSwaNEwlJEaQ==,GB,,1495378662 126433374,126469860,2017-05-21 14:57:58,,,Anonymous,Hans-Hoppe-ořez-e1494337275956.png,FIa9cfUc/dY8l5h/jxmw4Q==,GB,,1495378678 126433374,126469865,2017-05-21 14:58:00,">>126466823 There is often an example when you are in a large family living on a rural plot of land, when the state comes knocking at your door and demands something from you for services you didn't use (that's how my Polish ancestors went to gulag anyway). And how self-sustainable can you be without your quality of life going through the floor? It's all about members of Ancapistan being rational people that anything else",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495378680 126433374,126469896,2017-05-21 14:58:18,,,Anonymous,hoppe-farsi-2016.jpg,I5wDeBm4O9Q/eTplLa2QFw==,GB,,1495378698 126433374,126470391,2017-05-21 15:02:32,">>126469865 Remember that you don't have to stand alone - you can create/join a covenant of like minded individuals. You also have weapons (no restrictions), private police, and potentially PMCs at your back. But yes, being self-sufficient is always good, and I think all strands of libertarianism need a relatively high-trust population.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495378952 126433374,126470573,2017-05-21 15:04:10,,,Anonymous,hoppe2-e1439880724629.jpg,pSO/gLdjULr7+l3nOmlwKg==,GB,,1495379050 126433374,126470757,2017-05-21 15:05:47,,,Anonymous,MISES.jpg,9I1kG2Kiv2mk8CD61GSUPQ==,GB,,1495379147 126433374,126470819,2017-05-21 15:06:19,">>126470391 If I enter the government apparatus and start bending and twisting until it serves my needs (or just handwaving any accusations of corrpution/breaking laws) thus effectively removing myself from the oppression, will it be akin to libertarian paradise?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495379179 126433374,126470841,2017-05-21 15:06:32,,,Anonymous,1470612-Hans-Hermann-Hoppe-Quote-Egalitarianism-in-every-form-and-shape-is.jpg,z2R5XchxW3oc0DzvQxigQA==,GB,,1495379192 126433374,126471232,2017-05-21 15:09:52,">>126433374 I still don't ge thow cna u be a real National-Socialist while beeing LIBERTARIAN..the 2 things ar eopposite...an ethno-nationalistic ideology based on a central governament, a national unity, a national purpose and aim vs an individualistic libertarian ideology..what is the link?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1495379392 126433374,126471714,2017-05-21 15:14:24,">>126471232 What makes you think there's a link mate? We are generally opposed to all forms of statism and bootlickery",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495379664 126433374,126471765,2017-05-21 15:14:51,">>126471232 The link is the leftist enemy, and traditional morality. We're not National Socialists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495379691 126433374,126472621,2017-05-21 15:22:34,">>126470819 Doesn't sound like it to me mate, just perpetuating the state. That's part of the problem we have - in the old days you could found a nation and try new systems. But how we get from where we are now to minarchy or no govt at all, that's the trick.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495380154 126433374,126472836,2017-05-21 15:24:28,">>126470573 >nobody would sign that contract >give me your money and nobody will get hurt A lot of people do, just to not bear responsibility/to make life easier for them. It happened in Russian in the nineties, though it did evolve from racketeers. Literally the only people who opposed were wannabe-racketeers. The population was introduced to free markets (knowing jack shit about them, due to them not being mentioned in commie education program), sent their only chance to get involved in economics down the toilet, education and medicare goes to shit, all the huge companies went private through shady barely legal means and generation later we still get to suck on their dicks with laws now in place to prevent taking power. Most of those company owners were dealt with by helicopter rides though.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1495380268 126433374,126472931,2017-05-21 15:25:17,">>126433374 Bump,found a new nickname Timothy ""Annuda shoah from Oklahoma"" McVeigh",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495380317 126433374,126473085,2017-05-21 15:26:40,"So if I'm for government completely out of business and including the federal reserve being abolished, for currencies to compete, and for government only exist to protect our freedom, protect contracts, private properties and stuff like that, what would I technically be, a constitutionalist? Minarchist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495380400 126433374,126473627,2017-05-21 15:31:07,">>126473085 Minarchist is more appropriate",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495380667 126433374,126473740,2017-05-21 15:32:05,">>126473627 What is minarchist. Would u say that's the closest to what I described?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495380725 126433374,126473772,2017-05-21 15:32:17,">>126472931 Timothy ""bringing a shoah to the Alfred p. Murrah"" McVeigh Timothy ""one in the eye for the fbi"" McVeigh Timothy ""getting irate with ammonium nitrate"" McVeigh",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495380737 126433374,126474144,2017-05-21 15:35:20,">>126473740 Minarchy is having government's only responsibility be: the military to defend from threats abroad, police to protect property and people's lives, and courts so everyone is punished under the same rules. Everything else is fully privatized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495380920 126433374,126474245,2017-05-21 15:36:07,">>126473740 Minimal as fuck government,cops,army and courts are state controled to enforce and protect property rights",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495380967 126433374,126474327,2017-05-21 15:36:39,">>126474144 And how does the government pay for those things",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495380999 126433374,126474329,2017-05-21 15:36:41,">>126473740 It's minimal government with basic functions such as defence of the realm. Everything else is left to the private sector. Libertarianism (as opposed to ancap) is minarchist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495381001 126433374,126474402,2017-05-21 15:37:21,">>126473772 Really nicely founded",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495381041 126433374,126474517,2017-05-21 15:38:17,">>126474144 >>126474245 >>126474329 Ok. I guess I am a minarchist then. Isn't that how our constitution is supposed to be? Or did congress commerce clause mess that all up",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495381097 126433374,126474534,2017-05-21 15:38:25,">>126474327 Like every government : with taxation The smallest possible obiviously",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495381105 126433374,126474849,2017-05-21 15:41:21,">>126474534 land value tax would be the most moral and just way to run a government",,What Is Geolibertarianism?,adamsmithisageoist.jpg,JUWppajMdiB5mV3ofkxBVg==,US,,1495381281 126433374,126474852,2017-05-21 15:41:24,">>126474517 Yes,but power hungry cunts fucked up",,Anonymous,image.jpg,RlKLydILKsYnp0JppHjY/Q==,FR,,1495381284 126433374,126475027,2017-05-21 15:43:00,>>126474517,,Anonymous,quote-rightful-liberty-is-unobstructed-action-according-to-our-will-within-limits-drawn-around-us-by-the-thomas-jefferson-94097 (1).jpg,rK40CqeAMpRa5g2p/AJWnA==,GB,,1495381380 126433374,126475082,2017-05-21 15:43:30,">>126474852 Frekin bs. I'm tryna fight for freedom back",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495381410 126433374,126475223,2017-05-21 15:44:42,">>126474327 Taxation of some form. This is libertarian-right general, not ancap general. Just to ask, when was welfare or some kind of social security established in the US? I feel like an anarchist for wanting to take down all entitlement programs, but hearing some of the quotes of the founding fathers it seems like it was fairly normal that there was no government welfare to stop you from starving to death. It'd require a huge shift in how the public views the purpose of government to ever take out welfare. It seems like leftists like to take the logical leap of ""we can't let people starve to death therefor universal healthcare"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495381482 126433374,126475526,2017-05-21 15:47:04,">>126475082 You know what to do",,Anonymous,image.jpg,TnP5r2llt5XeENmm7soMDg==,FR,,1495381624 126433374,126475813,2017-05-21 15:49:45,">>126475223 Although there had been local and state initiatives my understanding is it kicked of properly with the federal Emergency Relief act of 1932 (iirc).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495381785 126433374,126475931,2017-05-21 15:50:46,>>126475526,,Anonymous,filing_images_112b63df6838.jpg,BA47kBL8HxDSEE7r0X9G1A==,GB,,1495381846 126433374,126476214,2017-05-21 15:53:21,">>126434486 See >>126434672 National-(((Socialists))) should also get helicopter rides.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1495382001 126433374,126476608,2017-05-21 15:56:54,">>126474144 >>126474245 >>126474329 So who will be the lawmakers and leaders? And will they be elected or what? Seems to me that either a minimal democracy or monarchism are the options for minarchy.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495382214 126433374,126477016,2017-05-21 16:00:22,">>126444112 That picture sums up anfags here - desperate for the approval of NatSocs. >w..we hate commies just like you guys! >>126444013 >>126476214",,Anonymous,A79135971.png,DMXbAuCjL2M7fTzCdCedtA==,GB,,1495382422 126433374,126477076,2017-05-21 16:00:50,">>126476608 The United States constitution sums it up. A representative republic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495382450 126433374,126477304,2017-05-21 16:03:00,">>126474144 >>126474517 Minarchists will be thrown out of helicopters, your existance violates the NAP because you want to force me to pay for your military, police and courts, I don't consent to this.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495382580 126433374,126477359,2017-05-21 16:03:31,">>126476608 You can only really achieve it with a minarchy-loving populace. Russia had Czars before the communist revolution and America had a government-limiting constitution. I still like America's style. If there was less federal power then it'd be like 50 different competing governments that you can freely move around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495382611 126433374,126477392,2017-05-21 16:03:50,">>126477016 >implying ancaps are a hivemind Some want an alliance with the natsocs,others don't you know",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495382630 126433374,126477538,2017-05-21 16:05:06,">>126469203 Ayy, great to see the hours of my shitposting have paid off.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495382706 126433374,126477563,2017-05-21 16:05:16,">>126477304 How's it forced",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495382716 126433374,126477693,2017-05-21 16:06:28,">>126477563 taxation is theft",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495382788 126433374,126477715,2017-05-21 16:06:41,">>126477076 Well how's that working for you? Sure doesn't look like minarchism to me. Once you have a central government (monopoly on lawmaking and law enforcement) you're fucked. They can raise taxes to 70% and forcibly take your property or kill you if you refuse.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495382801 126433374,126477827,2017-05-21 16:07:36,">>126453576 Ancap means no monopoly on violence. Call it a state if you insist, but if there's an opportunity for someone else to provide services other than you, it's not the ""state"" we like to bash in these threads.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495382856 126433374,126477829,2017-05-21 16:07:39,">>126477563 Dont pay taxes and you get jailed",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495382859 126433374,126477912,2017-05-21 16:08:27,">>126433374 Hey guys white nationalist here just stopping by to ask what fucking accent does Augustus sol invictus have ??? Seriously I can t tell if it's some kind of weird European regional dialect or a very obscure American one any help on this would be greatly appreciated.",,Anonymous,1493006284872.png,iz4gRhtipwcxsSSrCPUGXg==,US,,1495382907 126433374,126478040,2017-05-21 16:09:39,">>126474849 Yeah I gotta agree with Georgistan here. If there is to be any taxation at all, let it be land. Therefore, if minarchy is all we can hope for, let the government get its revenue from land tax. I'd still prefer ancap, but this is somewhat acceptable.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495382979 126433374,126478151,2017-05-21 16:10:25,">>126477693 >>126477829 Not all is theft. What about excise, consumption tax, taxing a lottery, non forced means of taxation? U.S gave congress the power to collect taxes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383025 126433374,126478156,2017-05-21 16:10:26,">>126477359 Agree but reality is that it became creeping totalitarianism. So how do you prevent that?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495383026 126433374,126478278,2017-05-21 16:11:34,">>126477715 Well, congress kept passing laws to fuck us over, such as the 16th amendment and the federal reserve act. These can still be repealed. It's a process. I prefer law and order",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383094 126433374,126478286,2017-05-21 16:11:41,">>126477912 He's a good ol' boy. But even then its a pretty obscure southern accent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383101 126433374,126478419,2017-05-21 16:12:46,">>126476214 Whoa whoa. We're trying to be nice to each other. Either way - our end vision is pretty much similar. I doubt they'd want to be slaves to the government forever, just like we've realised that with violence being complicated as it is, we could justify its use because it is for freedom. >>126477016 On the other hand, communists are cattle and are to be treated as such. We hate them much more and on more levels than you do, don't lie to yourself. >>126477304 Stop pretending to be an ancap. Not even the admin of Anarchyball is this retarded.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495383166 126433374,126478453,2017-05-21 16:13:02,"Is this where all the fucking refugees from Redbit that think Alex Jones is an intellectual hang out? Jesus Christ ice cream flag you really are a sad little faggot, appointing yourself queen of the lolbertarians and crying about the Nazis just because we raped your grandma and took your looted shekels during the war.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495383182 126433374,126478454,2017-05-21 16:13:02,">>126478151 fuck off commie, i didn't consent to taxation, so it's theft. have you even read hoppe?",,Anonymous,based hoppe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,GB,,1495383182 126433374,126478522,2017-05-21 16:13:38,">>126477912 He's a Southerner, beyond that, I don't know.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495383218 126433374,126478523,2017-05-21 16:13:39,">>126478151 >non forced",,Anonymous,file.png,ed6adyZDOxmQhT8+VwxDoQ==,GB,,1495383219 126433374,126478646,2017-05-21 16:14:47,">>126478151 Nah, keep it to the land tax. I understand the Geofag perspective on that one, but these ones are just the eternal government nigger's ""gibsmedat"" attitude.",,Anonymous,rothbard state.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,SK,,1495383287 126433374,126478664,2017-05-21 16:14:53,">>126478278 What a cucked response. You sure have a lot of law and order with the amount of corruption and pavement apes rioting.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495383293 126433374,126478678,2017-05-21 16:14:59,">>126478151 >What about excise, consumption tax, taxing a lottery, non forced means of taxation? you're right,in this case it's not theft,but parasitism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495383299 126433374,126478767,2017-05-21 16:15:45,">>126478286 I have never heard a southern accent like that before it sounds I wanna say eastern European could you tell me the what region the dialect is from ? Sorry to be so pedantic about this it's really bothering me",,Anonymous,1494872910459.jpg,WvnMKLQwjRCXLxXoa+UBXw==,US,,1495383345 126433374,126478768,2017-05-21 16:15:45,">>126478453 And here I was thinking that German soldiers didn't rape. Maybe they should have.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495383345 126433374,126478783,2017-05-21 16:15:49,">>126478156 1 year public education entirely on everything that lead to and went on in the soviet union, then a semester on economics. So I guess creeping national socialism to combat creeping totalitarianism. Democracies only last a few hundred years anyway, we'll just repeat this cycle as necessary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383349 126433374,126478817,2017-05-21 16:16:10,">>126478454 No. But how can we go against the constitution? It's the law of my land. United States is a minimalist federal government. How else is it funded. Do you know what a consumption tax is",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383370 126433374,126478858,2017-05-21 16:16:31,">>126478767 He really doesn't sound Eastern European. I'd know.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495383391 126433374,126478917,2017-05-21 16:17:02,">>126478419 >taxation doesn't violate the NAP as long as it's a libertarian taxing me >this level of cog dis I cringe at the fact that I was AnCap when I was 17.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495383422 126433374,126479025,2017-05-21 16:17:56,">>126478664 Precisely what I am fighting. >>126478646 Explain land tax >>126478678 What is the most ideal form to fund the state that protects ultimate freedom?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383476 126433374,126479068,2017-05-21 16:18:17,">>126478817 Yes we know that It's when you buy a coke for 1 € 20 but instead you pay 1€ 89 because the state said fuck you",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495383497 126433374,126479117,2017-05-21 16:18:40,">>126478858 His accent is so odd I'm just ball parking it here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383520 126433374,126479133,2017-05-21 16:18:49,">>126478767 I think a good part of it is him larping as george washington. I've never heard him speak casually so maybe im wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383529 126433374,126479238,2017-05-21 16:19:40,">>126479025 I'm an ancap,not a minarchist dude for me there is no legitimate way to fund a goverment",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495383580 126433374,126479528,2017-05-21 16:22:14,">>126479238 How would an ancap city function without having walls and tolls every 2 meters?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495383734 126433374,126479728,2017-05-21 16:23:56,">>126479025 Terms first: (Economic) Land - all non-man-made items and opportunities. Free gifts of nature. Location, atoms, energy, the ability of the sky to absorb pollution, fish in the sea, minerals and oil in the ground, aquifers, the EM spectrum are all economic land. Most of this FAQ will speak of land in the colloquial ""parcel"" sense of the term, but most of its appearances in this FAQ can apply to all other forms. (Economic) Rent - what one can charge another for access to economic land. This differs from colloquial rent such as renting an apartment. The rent for an apartment is actually a combination of interest on capital (the building) and rent for the location. Land Value Tax (LVT) - a tax on the exclusive ownership of economic land based on the value of said land to those excluded, typically determined by examining economic rent. Note that the tax is not on the use of the land, just the right to exclude others.",,What Is Geolibertarianism?,,,US,,1495383836 126433374,126479804,2017-05-21 16:24:37,">>126479025 Land tax explained Geoism is a ""prefix philosophy"" and economic system: that is it can be applied to all kinds of societies and philosophies like geo-anarchism, geo-futurist, geo-libertarian, geo-statist, etc. Its core tenet is that unlimited property rights in non-man-made (economic land) things are at odds with equal human rights, primarily the right of humans to use their body and actualize their ends. As such it prescribes property rights in economic land which are bounded by the equal rights of others to also have property rights in economic land - or a market value compensation in lieu. Geoists argue that no one has a right to economic rent because economic rent is what can be charged when one exclusively owns a part of nature which is better than other alternatives. Since all such ownership is either based on conquest or a pure externality to latecomers, geoists reject it. Since economic rent is the measure of the cost to others of exclusion, it defines a market amount to be taxed. Different types of geoists will have their own opinions on where that tax money should be spent - for instance on public works versus a per capita dividend/basic income guarantee. Different geoists will also have varied opinions on other forms of taxes, but most consider income and sales taxes to be bad.",,What Is Geolibertarianism?,,,US,,1495383877 126433374,126479854,2017-05-21 16:25:06,">>126479133 Thanks I'll be on my way and stop side tracking your guys discussions",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383906 126433374,126479886,2017-05-21 16:25:25,">>126479728 Can you elaborate? I'm still pretty ignorant to that I don't fully understand",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495383925 126433374,126480102,2017-05-21 16:27:47,">>126479528 >voluntary association of owners to live together >walls and tolls everywhere That would be for non-city inhabitants coming there",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495384067 126433374,126480125,2017-05-21 16:27:56,">>126479886 read this after >>126479728 and >>126479804 if you think its communism",,What Is Geolibertarianism?,commonvsstateprop.jpg,2HUhFgaPW/aBdZC7xmFcDg==,US,,1495384076 126433374,126480603,2017-05-21 16:32:16,">>126478917 It's land. Not exactly the same thing. I'd still prefer no taxation at all, though. >>126479025 Pretty much just taxing all revenue from land and land only. It's derived from the principle that all men have a right to live on this planet. I'm still not too eager about it, but it's certainly better than income tax. >>126479117 It's his way of speaking, the old Roman manner.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495384336 126433374,126480687,2017-05-21 16:32:58,">>126480102 Well how would you protect your property if no walls? Who would own the streets? Am I free to trespass your sidewalk or there will be a toll until I get to the next land owner's toll?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495384378 126433374,126480870,2017-05-21 16:34:34,">>126480125 I don't think it's communism idk what it is lol >>126480603 Better than income tax, it just seems kinda problematic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495384474 126433374,126481037,2017-05-21 16:36:12,">>126477016 natsocs are paternally-challenged mouthbreeding cattle who can't or won't carve out a life on their own, as individuals on a level playing field among other freemen like them",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495384572 126433374,126481096,2017-05-21 16:36:46,>>126433374,,Anonymous,LeftyPolCanAnarchy.png,wivc6ItGBj94Y+yBhNqokw==,US,,1495384606 126433374,126481142,2017-05-21 16:37:17,">>126480687 >Am I free to trespass your sidewalk or there will be a toll until I get to the next land owner's toll? So you have to pay a toll when you enter a grocery shop ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495384637 126433374,126481213,2017-05-21 16:37:58,">>126480603 >Pretty much just taxing all revenue from land and land only. Technically all revenue would be from land regardless if you sell pansies or nukes, because you always have to use a property to get revenue. So how would be different from income/corporate tax?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495384678 126433374,126481416,2017-05-21 16:39:45,">>126481096 Do they like Hoppe on /Liberty/ or it's ""2edgy4me"" for them ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495384785 126433374,126481432,2017-05-21 16:39:50,">>126481142 How about you answer my specific question rather than deflect. A grocery shop makes money. A sidewalk doesn't unless you put a toll on it.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495384790 126433374,126481495,2017-05-21 16:40:35,">>126481416 No AnComs just tell you to read Hoppe to justify there bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495384835 126433374,126481553,2017-05-21 16:41:15,">>126481416 some do, but from my research, /liberty/ is 80% faggots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495384875 126433374,126481617,2017-05-21 16:41:54,">>126481495 >there bullshit. American statist education everyone.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495384914 126433374,126482354,2017-05-21 16:48:46,">>126481213 That's the thing. How do they determine what's from land and what's from other factors?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495385326 126433374,126482831,2017-05-21 16:52:53,">>126482354 You can't, really. That's the thing.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495385573 126433374,126483243,2017-05-21 16:56:34,">>126482354 >>126482831 Thats a debate to have but shifting the paradigm from taxing the fruits of labor is the most important part The way Alaska handles oil is a decent modern day georgist model",,What Is Geolibertarianism?,,,US,,1495385794 126433374,126483956,2017-05-21 17:03:19,">>126481495 Is it because of physical removal? Because I thought Marx advocated for that as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495386199 126433374,126484183,2017-05-21 17:05:32,">>126481432 Accessibility to the store increases profits, so business would maintain the sidewalks and roads and make them public.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495386332 126433374,126484396,2017-05-21 17:07:36,">>126483956 yes, they are completely against violence, nu-ancaps and libertarians are crypto-pacifists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495386456 126433374,126484649,2017-05-21 17:09:45,">>126484396 no they are not. Just ask them how they plan on dealing with debtors. So long as the debt is justified so is the force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495386585 126433374,126485404,2017-05-21 17:17:18,">>126484649 they're a bunch of fags that get triggered by helicopter memes. They'd never collect debts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495387038 126433374,126485528,2017-05-21 17:18:30,">>126485404 even the purest of pure NAP espousing edgelords has to admit force is okay to collect justified debt or their head will explode from the dissonance",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495387110 126433374,126487776,2017-05-21 17:39:47,>>126481096,,Anonymous,ancoms.png,kkob3H9NTWlOtQmF8w5Cnw==,US,,1495388387 126433374,126488621,2017-05-21 17:47:34,">>126485528 Well not paying your debt is a breach of contract which technically violates the NAP so forceful response is justified",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495388854 126433374,126488712,2017-05-21 17:48:21,">>126433374 bump because I hate this less than the ""MUH DRUMPFY SUXXING MUSLIM COCKK"" threads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495388901 126433374,126490621,2017-05-21 18:05:26,">>126433374 lefty here to remind you that Slovakia is over ran by muzzies. enjoy that thought",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495389926 126433374,126491278,2017-05-21 18:11:33,"Sup fags, NatSoc here. When are we going to destroy the lefties and build an empire that extends into the stars?",,Anonymous,1489524073489.jpg,L+ZmVifHH59EpcsYdvbCFA==,US,,1495390293 126433374,126491965,2017-05-21 18:17:24,">>126491278 >NatSOC >not lefty",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495390644 126433374,126493212,2017-05-21 18:29:26,">>126491965 Correct, we're center center-right. Are we really going to do this every time?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495391366 126433374,126493732,2017-05-21 18:34:28,">>126493212 Don't mean to flame but technically Socialism by any other name is leftist. Centre-left or far-left is still left. Why not NatCap while we're at it?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495391668 126433374,126495756,2017-05-21 18:53:31,">>126491278 NatSocs are just socialists that hate niggers and jews, that's it. you're not interesting at all. And your barely right-wing.",,Anonymous,AnCapAndy.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,US,,1495392811 126433374,126496181,2017-05-21 18:57:37,">>126491278 And NatSocs don't believe in any personal freedom, you want one leader to rule the lives of millions of people.",,Anonymous,hippityhoppy.png,p1uLlkVWdN4X+FZxgDil/w==,US,,1495393057 126433374,126496411,2017-05-21 18:59:50,">>126495756 NatSocs also believe in things like National Healthcare",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495393190 126433374,126496883,2017-05-21 19:04:07,">>126495756 >just socialists that hate niggers and jews No. Not only is it not Marxian Socialism which is leftist, but NatSoc desires strong family and community to build the nation with. >>126496181 Personal freedom is good, but not to the point where it endangers the community and thus the nation. Even in a free society there are limits to what you can and can't do. What you espouse will lead to total degeneracy and destruction, not any different than what we're experiencing now. Law and order is required. >>126493732 If that HAS to be the case then I guess I should rephrase my original question: when are we going to destroy the communists/egalitarians?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495393447 126433374,126497025,2017-05-21 19:05:33,">>126496411 Every hard working American who pays taxes should have BASIC healthcare provided for them or their families at the very least. The health of the individual and family are necessary to ensure a strong nation. How is that bad?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495393533 126433374,126497182,2017-05-21 19:07:14,">>126496883 what is with this new meme of natsocs thinking leftist=Bolshevik? socialism is leftism no matter fucking what",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495393634 126433374,126497315,2017-05-21 19:08:42,">>126497025 >Every hard working American who pays taxes should have BASIC healthcare provided for them or their families at the very least if you were really hard working you would just pay for your damn healthcare if you were liked you'd join a covenant or fraternity to cover your healthcare that's real community and it doesn't contradict individualism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495393722 126433374,126497367,2017-05-21 19:09:11,">>126497025 How is the U.S. gubmint going to take care of 300,000,000 people? Most of the countries that have universal healthare have a much smaller population than the U.S.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495393751 126433374,126497649,2017-05-21 19:11:45,">>126497025 Because it completely fucks the HealthCare system up. You should know everything the government touches turns to shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495393905 126433374,126497959,2017-05-21 19:14:38,">>126497025 Every hard working German who pays taxes should have BASIC healthcare provided for them or their families at the least.",,Anonymous,1465577402191.png,gaYXB/s790O9iBEEXHviFg==,US,,1495394078 126433374,126498151,2017-05-21 19:16:17,">>126497025 if the government doing something actually made it more secure, available, and efficient then why do just healthcare? >Every hard working American who pays taxes should have BASIC food provided for them or their families at the very least. >Every hard working American who pays taxes should have BASIC cable provided for them or their families at the very least. >Every hard working American who pays taxes should have BASIC transportation provided for them or their families at the very least. >Every hard working American who pays taxes should have BASIC education provided for them or their families at the very least. >Every hard working American who pays taxes should have a BASIC living wage provided for them or their families at the very least.",,Anonymous,14952551731005.gif,wTxFftsMpgdgUWr5lcefLQ==,US,,1495394177 126433374,126498397,2017-05-21 19:18:22,">>126498151 >Every hard working Russian should have BASIC famine provided for them or their families at the very least.",,Anonymous,Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union_(1955-1980).png,JZri2rzslbu/JJU3Rfr4Xw==,US,,1495394302 126433374,126498398,2017-05-21 19:18:22,">>126435420 >>126434672 This. What could be more degenerate than the moral cannibalism & social suicide that is the philosophy of altruism, the philosophy of all for all, where no man exists in his own right but for the sacrifice of himself to others. Whether Communist or Nazi or Socialist or Statist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6q6nhQQBrs",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495394302 126433374,126498430,2017-05-21 19:18:38,">>126497025 >Every hard working American who pays taxes >who pays taxes found the problem",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495394318 126433374,126498568,2017-05-21 19:19:56,">>126496883 Most libertarians are ""paleo libertarians"" that don't like degeneracy and promote traditionalism. The faggots that ruin libertarianism are the left-libertarians that just want to smoke weed and leech on welfare like a lazy bitch. Also, most NatSocs are against gun rights. Hitler disarmed his citizens like a slimy piece of shit.",,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1495394396 126433374,126498653,2017-05-21 19:20:46,">>126498397 Kek. Well at least the commies were efficient at delivering that...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495394446 126433374,126499047,2017-05-21 19:24:29,">>126498568 This. I believe in traditional values. However, if someone wants defy the status? Their choice. I'm saying we shouldn't be controlled by the government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495394669 126433374,126499139,2017-05-21 19:25:31,">>126498568 Isn't the whole point of Liberty that we can be subjectively different & still enjoy a frame work of freedom? Whether left anti-racism or fuck the mozzies right, both can coexist in an objective framework where they can duke out their subjective preferences as long as they don't use the state to force one or the other?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495394731 126433374,126499150,2017-05-21 19:25:37,">>126498568 >Also, most NatSocs are against gun rights. Hitler disarmed his citizens like a slimy piece of shit. >b-but he only disarmed Jews irrelevant. If the government can decide who a right applies to, it and the people who accept that don't believe it's a right at all",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495394737 126433374,126499693,2017-05-21 19:31:22,">>126498568 the idea that freedom leads to degeneracy has no basis in reality at all >I live in a society where I have to earn my right to life either by trading, working, or being loved by someone who trades/works >I can get free shit for doing nothing which one is being advocated by the degenerates which one promotes degeneracy use your brain",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495395082 126433374,126499878,2017-05-21 19:33:18,">>126499139 Yes. I didn't say I want to force traditionalism onto anyone, I just promote traditionalism and will raise my children that way.",,Anonymous,AnCapMemeBall.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,US,,1495395198 126433374,126500350,2017-05-21 19:38:18,">>126499693 That was my point. left-lolbertarians or social libertarians want to be lazy assholes and feed off everyone else.",,Anonymous,1494205353387.jpg,2MIJYTB4UI/Se6ERy7Fs3Q==,US,,1495395498 126433374,126500440,2017-05-21 19:39:18,">>126499693 people think that somehow we'll achieve full liberty while still having a nanny state to take care of those who can provide no reasonable standard of living for themselves. It's where the ""everyone who lives in an ancap society will be a heroin-addicted dog fucker"" meme comes from",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495395558 126433374,126500546,2017-05-21 19:40:18,">>126500440 kek",,Anonymous,AnCapOkay.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1495395618 126433374,126501116,2017-05-21 19:46:13,">>126500440 that myth falls like a house of cards when you ask them this: Would you employ a heroin addict dog fucker? Would you keep a tenant on your property that was a heroin addict dog fucker? Would you be a heroin addict dog fucker if it means nobody hires you and you can't find a place to live?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495395973 126433374,126501241,2017-05-21 19:47:28,">>126501116 > people don't understand economic incentives Comes from talking to a bunch of kids that have never run or helped build a small business.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495396048 126433374,126501305,2017-05-21 19:48:05,"I asked this once before, but what's /LRG/'s opinion on Frank Meyer? I don't know too much about him myself, but he seems to have tried to combine libertarianism and traditionalism, which sounds bretty gud to me.",,Anonymous,frank_meyer.jpg,Xl4QSLO2XJGsyh/hzSRO0w==,US,,1495396085 126433374,126501475,2017-05-21 19:50:06,">>126501305 sounds like a cool guy but that pic makes him look like a heroin addict dog fucker",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495396206 126433374,126501497,2017-05-21 19:50:19,">>126501116 fucking exactly, I had an argument about this once and someone tried to tell me that there'd be heroin companies using all the heroin addicts as slaves by inventing super heroin that's addictive but not harmful. Fucking weird as hell",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495396219 126433374,126501594,2017-05-21 19:51:24,">>126501305 always seemed to me that traditionalism would emerge from AnCap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495396284 126433374,126502022,2017-05-21 19:56:03,>>126501497,,Anonymous,4fztSGaZY_jG5QlE4rlLTcmAqpSRDnbMNBUABnbfgZU.jpg,ai6YsSn4uVVMLP+UKZzKZg==,US,,1495396563 126433374,126502480,2017-05-21 20:01:32,">>126501497 You really have to stand in amazement at the sheer imagination people can come up with for why freedom wouldn't work, but put literally no effort into how a road could possibly exist without taxation paying private contractors to lay some bitchumen or if they ever existed beforehand.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495396892 126433374,126502969,2017-05-21 20:06:33,">>126502480 Not to mention these guys hate forced integration of foreign cultures but think it's the states job to connect different people with roads and transportation the same state that has no reason to give a fuck about your domestic culture",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495397193 126433374,126502987,2017-05-21 20:06:45,">>126458028 I love how ancaps eventually boil down every problem to ""cant we just kill them"". And you cant remove what isn't there, how would you deal with it if i was anywhere outside of your shitty country?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495397205 126433374,126504097,2017-05-21 20:18:26,">>126502480 >You really have to stand in amazement at the sheer imagination people can come up with for why freedom wouldn't work It would be these types of people you would have to look out for in an ancap society, with fewer/no laws you could come up with some really creative and ingenious ways of making money that fuck other people or ancap society over. Like in relation to the addicts. >Start small drug lab >pay addicts in drugs to work in the lab >stat a factory/large drugs lab >Use addicts to run the joint, pay them in drugs and provide them free board + food. Now you basically have a workforce that you have captive due to addiction that you would be ""paying"" dollars a day. Sure they can quit, but that would violate their working contract, they would be homeless and be suffering from addiction withdrawals. Any legitimate company would struggle to compete with their cost of production.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495397906 126433374,126504296,2017-05-21 20:20:36,"I have to present you the Brazilian LIbertarian Culture. It's beautiful!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNmZCSFGeco",,Anonymous,we ancap nao.png,bPEMQEZUDr6KtY6TnNMB9Q==,BR,,1495398036 126433374,126504403,2017-05-21 20:21:47,">>126501497 Is this the guy you were talking about? >>126504097",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495398107 126433374,126504571,2017-05-21 20:23:38,">>126504403 Nope, but it sounds like a pretty good idea to get cheap/free labor from societies undesirables. Extra points if they are children to extend the amount of time they can spend working before they die.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495398218 126433374,126504786,2017-05-21 20:25:51,">>126504571 so Thailand right now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495398351 126433374,126505289,2017-05-21 20:31:30,">>126504786 Yeah, exactly, but since it's local the transportation costs are practically 0. And Thailand has to use illegal immigrants, whereas this would be drafting directly from the population, making recruitment easier. And there would be no government intervention removing my slaves if it became a point of public contention.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495398690 126433374,126505298,2017-05-21 20:31:38,,,Anonymous,1472540908702.jpg,kH3u9StgvzsC7TN7O7gP5g==,US,,1495398698 126433374,126505717,2017-05-21 20:35:56,,,Anonymous,1491259062346.png,dme0JYbDUWOnKUIXUEtlnQ==,US,,1495398956 126433374,126505829,2017-05-21 20:37:11,">>126504097 >>126504571 it only works until they all fucking die from being heroin addicts. That's what the guy I was arguing with didn't understand",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495399031 126433374,126506152,2017-05-21 20:40:38,"A flat tax makes more sense than a progressive tax because it doesn't penalise people for doing well. If the tax you pay jumps from 20% to 40% when you hit 40,000, you're going to choose lower paying jobs, probably around the 35,000 mark, because you'll be able to take more home. I understand the concept of taxation being theft, and in many ways, I agree with it, but I think it's a necessary evil. A Libertarian society without taxation will need some form of authority to enforce contracts. That authority is going to need funding.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495399238 126433374,126506350,2017-05-21 20:42:40,">>126506152 > That authority is going to need funding. Please watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495399360 126433374,126506406,2017-05-21 20:43:22,">>126505829 Yeah, you just dump the dead bodies in a river or something and get new homeless/addicts in. It's not like the amount of addicts doesn't increase, and there would likely be more in a country with very lax drug laws. It's not like you would ""hire"" every addict at the same time for some 3000-person mega factory, you only need a few hundred to keep a large modern factory going. And for minimal cost you could tailor their diets to the requirements for a moderately healthy lifestyle (minus healthcare, fuck them, thats their problem).",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495399402 126433374,126506548,2017-05-21 20:44:56,">>126506406 > healthy lifestyle (minus healthcare, fuck them, thats their problem). > fuck them As opposed to putting them in govt hospitals where they can wait ages before getting the treatment they need? Good idea jackass",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495399496 126433374,126506788,2017-05-21 20:47:28,">>126506548 >As opposed to putting them in govt hospitals where they can wait ages before getting the treatment they need? Good idea jackass The fuck are you on about ? Are you trying to draw parallels between my theoretical slave labor camps and government healthcare ? Im just saying i wouldn't pay for any form of healthcare because addicts are cheap, cheaper than healthcare. It would be easier to get a new addict in an just toss the old ones out like used tissues. As they have no value to me beyond their labor potential.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495399648 126433374,126507002,2017-05-21 20:49:58,">>126506152 > evil > ever being necessary Mate where is the imagination, the vision for the future to actually progress society to new grounds? Imagine if people had the same attitude 1000 years ago or 2000 years ago.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495399798 126433374,126507058,2017-05-21 20:50:29,">>126506788 > It would be easier to get a new addict in an just toss the old ones out like used tissues. As they have no value to me beyond their labor potential. You're using druggos as labourers? Yeah mate might help to get a job Not like your average 20 year old tradie is useless enough",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495399829 126433374,126507175,2017-05-21 20:51:53,">>126497025 There's these Christian health sharing services that are cheaper than insurance. If you're a hard working man with strong family and community values then you can afford healthcare. By de-regulating the healthcare industry to increase competition we'd be making it even cheaper for them. Are you NatSoc just here to turn us left?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495399913 126433374,126507360,2017-05-21 20:54:01,">>126506406 you're assuming that addicts would be an infinite or even reliable resource in a world mostly made of covenant societies, and overestimating how useful the labour of a heroin addict is and underestimating the effects of prolonged use",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495400041 126433374,126507428,2017-05-21 20:54:32,">>126507058 >You're using druggos as labourers? Yeah mainly because you wouldn't have to pay them any reasonable wage if you read the comment chain. >Yeah mate might help to get a job Is this an extension of the previous statement or an independent statement. Regardless i'm not sure what you mean by it. >Not like your average 20 year old tradie is useless enough Yeah but no normal person is going to sign up to my slave labor factory without modifying factors like crippling addiction and/or homelessness .",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495400072 126433374,126507859,2017-05-21 20:58:58,">>126507175 The entitlement was seething from that post",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495400338 126433374,126508145,2017-05-21 21:01:53,">>126507360 >you're assuming that addicts would be an infinite or even reliable resource in a world mostly made of covenant societies And you are assuming they wouldn't be when drugs would be defacto legal and likely very prevalent. In countries like america right now where drugs like heroin are illegal, many, many successful people with large support networks still develop crippling addiction to opiates/pills. >overestimating how useful the labour of a heroin addict is Yeah, they wont be winning any awards for efficiency, but when your basically paying them like a few bucks of food and drugs a day, who really gives a shit. As long as you can maintain a steady level of production its basically fine. >underestimating the effects of prolonged use Im fully aware of how bad the effects of prolonged use and abuse are. You can still easily get a reasonable amount of time out of them (month/years) as long as you arent feeding them over-dose levels. I mean, worst case i just change drugs, start feeding them speed/cocaine that are also very addictive and conductive to physical activity.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495400513 126433374,126508215,2017-05-21 21:02:37,">>126506788 > drug addicts make good labourers This is just a meme peddled by druggies themselves. ""aw yeah bro if I got paid in weed I'd be the best fuckin worker aye"". It's true that they can put an extreme amount of effort in for drugs, but that's only short term, they can't keep it up long term & contrary to popular belief drugs are actually bad for you, a healthy workforce is a productive workforce. Drugs cost money so you'd essentially be paying them an euqivalent wage of some kind, protentially undercut by asians still.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495400557 126433374,126508395,2017-05-21 21:04:37,">>126506152 >20% to 40% when you hit 40k What kindof populace allows such taxes? Anyway, don't you have tax brackets? I believe in a flat tax but the American tax system is set up in such a way that you always make more money when you earn more money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495400677 126433374,126508470,2017-05-21 21:05:25,">>126458324 Look, ancap paradise can only exist through the institutionalisation of it. The creation of a statehood like structure, unchangeable and that holds a certain power in order to prevent agressions from the outside and overtakings from the inside, so communities from natsoc to commie can merge as they want between agreeing members of a group, so the social contract is literally one you sign to join a community and not an imposed one. Problem with some socialists, religiousfaggs, and the alike is they don't want to live by their rules among themselves but impose it on everyone for their good because they are so full of their own cum they think they have a monopoly on morality and know better. These people are subversive faggs ane deserve heli rides and pinochet did what's best for everyone. In my ancap system you can be a commie or whatever with people like you, you can even make a colony/community where racemixing pansexuality is mandatory for all I care, if degenerates want to join it go ahead. I just want to be left alone and free to live in an exclusively european society where faggs aren't celebrated, religious cucks are shot on sight and where I'm not asked to feel bad for dead kikes arabs or nigger children every second. I'd join the closest thing to that and if I don't like it, freedom of movement allows me to fuck off and make my own thing where people like me are welcomed. Stateism is forcing people to cope with other people they see as morons and faggs because muh greater good. Let people live by their rules and everyone is happy. All political ideologies that don't involve interventionism and world cop/savior complex fall into the ancap paradigm and those who don't deserve airbourne ovens for being retarded and on period.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495400725 126433374,126508661,2017-05-21 21:07:14,">>126506406 Why heroin? If you want a more heinous example: A company gives free meth to its employees to increase productivity, then just replaces them once they're spent after a few months.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495400834 126433374,126508716,2017-05-21 21:07:45,">>126508215 Like i said in >>126508145 Their individual level of production is irrelevant when you are essentially paying them nothing. > healthy workforce is a productive workforce I fully agree, but a healthy workforce requires pay, something i am not willing to provide. >Drugs cost money This is in an ancap society, drugs are essentially legal as is production of them. Drugs like heroin, meth/speed are really, really cheap to make in bulk. You could make a bit more than a kilogram of pure meth for about 5k at current retail reagent prices if it were legal. That's like 10,000 hits, or 50 cents a hit. You could have them completely off tap all day for less than 5 bucks.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495400865 126433374,126508793,2017-05-21 21:08:28,">>126464044 Literally see nothing wrong with this.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495400908 126433374,126508824,2017-05-21 21:08:46,">>126506350 That all seems good, but it doesn't address one condition. What if you can't afford services?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495400926 126433374,126508836,2017-05-21 21:08:55,">>126508661 Honestly uppers fit way better for this method, i was just using heroin it as it was the original example.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495400935 126433374,126508960,2017-05-21 21:10:17,">>126507859 What?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495401017 126433374,126509022,2017-05-21 21:11:02,">>126507428 You don't pay them because they work in return for drugs, shelter, and sustenance. Once they can no longer work, you fuck them out.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495401062 126433374,126509027,2017-05-21 21:11:03,">>126508824 then you better be one friendly motherfucker",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495401063 126433374,126509128,2017-05-21 21:12:04,">>126508824 Community courts funded by charity or >>126509027",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495401124 126433374,126509131,2017-05-21 21:12:06,">>126508145 unless you send people to go around and inject people with heroin (a violation of the NAP), you're eventually going to run out. Do you really think many people are going to willingly start doing heroin when the end result is ending up as a slave in your factories? Abuse of depressant drugs is the product of a socialist society that supports non-productive people. You'd be running a company store for people who can't produce a profit for you",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495401126 126433374,126509160,2017-05-21 21:12:21,">>126509022 Yep thats the idea.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495401141 126433374,126509211,2017-05-21 21:12:51,">>126508960 Referring to the other guy",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495401171 126433374,126509228,2017-05-21 21:13:04,">>126477304 In the current times, we can't rely on the NAP because jews and mudslides will take over. We need to be minarchist in order to become an-cap.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495401184 126433374,126509241,2017-05-21 21:13:08,">>126509027 What stops someone from hiring me as a slave labourer in return for rights and protections in a job I can't leave because those rights and protections indebt me to them more than my labour is worth.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495401188 126433374,126509370,2017-05-21 21:14:23,">>126509241 you not being a dumbass and signing contracts while drunk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495401263 126433374,126509483,2017-05-21 21:15:46,">>126509131 > Abuse of depressant drugs is the product of a socialist society that supports non-productive people. While drug use my rob a person of a degree of productivity a person only has to be sufficiently productive to survive. Plenty of people, including myself, trade some productivity for the ability to enjoy alcohol or other recreational substances from time to time. That may not be abuse in your mind but I am sure the amount I drink would constitute abuse in the mind of many people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495401346 126433374,126509657,2017-05-21 21:17:29,">>126509022 Nothing wrong with that. You are turning hobos and parasites into productive individuals. People going down the drugs road are no different from those committing suicide. If everyone's on his own the weak and retards die before making offsrping thus improving passively our species. The ""moral duty"" of saving hobos and praising low iq morons is kike invented cuckstian bullshit because kikes were hobos themselves at that point. This ideology was recycled into socialism and communism with some extra layers.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495401449 126433374,126509663,2017-05-21 21:17:36,"Daily reminder Poland did best when it was monarchist. Next step after we get rid off Islam, jews and niggers is anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495401456 126433374,126509805,2017-05-21 21:19:00,">>126509370 If you were living in the gutter you'd do it. And even if you didn't, many would. What prevents a system like that from popping up? Charities might work, but then one may not exist in your area. If one did however, I could see charities helping people through a contract they have with employeers who need employees with certain skills. If the deal is help in return for employment in a specific company, you'd take it. Unless said company paid you nothing because the help you received indebted you to them, which leads me back to my original point. What prevents something like this from happening?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495401540 126433374,126509833,2017-05-21 21:19:17,">>126507428 >>126509022 Drug addicts deserve to be slave labored, just so other people see them as example of what not to do. Same with murdurers and rapists ( death sentence ) . Also, employing drug addicts might not be the best idea, you know... And how do you earn your money? Intelligent people won't buy drugs from you, since they know drugs destroy their lives.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495401557 126433374,126509975,2017-05-21 21:20:41,">>126509657 Won't they lack a future though? Once their labour is spent, they are cast away.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495401641 126433374,126510010,2017-05-21 21:21:01,">>126509805 We, the freedom lovers, advocate for idiot people to be used. There are 2 systems of teaching children. The woman way - Don't touch the fire you'll burn yourself! The man way - Let him touch the fire, he'll learn to not tdo it again. I don't advocate to stop it, I'd even promote it just to ruin lives of idiots and have a natural eugenics program.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495401661 126433374,126510062,2017-05-21 21:21:35,">>126509131 >unless you send people to go around and inject people with heroin (a violation of the NAP), you're eventually going to run out The fuck are you on about. How do you think addicts form in current society ? Heroin zombies shuffling around with needles turning other people into addicts ? No you fukken idiot, most addiction to opiates starts through medical pain-killers. You just scoop up the people who's lives crumble. And hell even if i do run out of addicts, i could just sell off the factories for someone who wants to use them for something other than the years/decades of slave labor i got out of it while removing societies undesirables. >Do you really think many people are going to willingly start doing heroin when the end result is ending up as a slave in your factories? Yeah they probably will, human psyche is a beautiful thing, nobody ever thinks ""that would happen to them"". >Abuse of depressant drugs is the product of a socialist society It's a product of society as a whole. There will always be addicts as long as there is a supply. >that supports non-productive people Like i said, they don't need to be super productive, if i get the equivalent of like a solid hour of 2 of labor out of them a day im basically in the black. Bulk drug production and food supply is really, really cheap. So my overheads are basically electricity and not much else. >You'd be running a company store for people who can't produce a profit for you Well yeah, but if i couldn't extract labor from them i would boot them to the curb, addicts who want food and a place to live would be motivated to put in a modicum of effort, and that is all i require. when you pay people almost nothing, you need very little labor for it to become profitable.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495401695 126433374,126510110,2017-05-21 21:22:05,">>126509975 Nothing wrong with junkies having no future, they'll share their history with others and others will learn.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495401725 126433374,126510158,2017-05-21 21:22:39,"How do you guys feel about National Synarchism or even Falangistas? I'm right leaning on the libertarian scale but I can't go full racialist as a mestizo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495401759 126433374,126510165,2017-05-21 21:22:41,">>126509833 Stupid people will always buy drugs, thus ensuring a class of slave labourers always exists. If they fuck up their lives willingly, they are forced to use the remainder of it paying off the damage they have caused.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495401761 126433374,126510237,2017-05-21 21:23:23,">>126510110 NO WE SHOULD HOLD SOCIETY BACK AND CATER TO THEM AND PROVIDE THEM WITH WELFARE MONEY THAT CAN SQUANDER ON DRUGS YOU SOULESS NAZI",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495401803 126433374,126510293,2017-05-21 21:23:54,">>126508716 > Their individual level of production is itrelevant when you are essentially paying them nothing It kind of is though, depending on what kind of work. If you have a production line you're only as productive as your worst worker and paying someone in heroine aint exactly cheap or like paying someone in rice. It has an equivalent money value. The free market finds the best cost/benefit tradeoff and I doubt there'll be much success in druggie driven businesses.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495401834 126433374,126510315,2017-05-21 21:24:04,">>126509805 there are plenty of answers to that but more importantly you can't start a story from the middle, you need to start at the beginning People who become junkies can be taken advantage of and turned into indentured servants, go to pleasure island and be sold to the coal mines ect. That is possible, but it's your decision to become a junkie in the first place the reason we don't think there should be a government apparatus to help you is because giving you a free handout when you're in the gutter makes you more likely to do it again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495401844 126433374,126510375,2017-05-21 21:24:39,">>126510165 And? All I see is natural selection at work. Of course some stupid people will always be born, but less and less through time. >>126510237 You could argue we need to pay them because they would hate the system, but junkies have no capability of warfare.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495401879 126433374,126510401,2017-05-21 21:24:56,">>126509833 >And how do you earn your money? Dual opperation. Small time drug manufacturing to feed the addicts, and a factory that uses simple manual labor of addicts to either produce goods, run machines, modify goods or transport goods. where the money comes from the latter, though simply selling drugs would probably be easier.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495401896 126433374,126510458,2017-05-21 21:25:23,">>126491278 Look, please go read the 25 points of National Socialism. And critically think about what they will mean for you. Hopefully you will realize that you will become a slave to the state.",,Anonymous,Back To Stormfront.png,js6ltHNvAYlpcqxaxlR33A==,US,,1495401923 126433374,126510535,2017-05-21 21:26:07,How do you guys feel about National Synarchism or even Falangistas?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495401967 126433374,126510558,2017-05-21 21:26:21,">>126510401 Oh, so you are actually good for society, providing ( I hope ) good products at low cost, great. No problem here officer.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495401981 126433374,126510588,2017-05-21 21:26:39,">>126508716 ..but I do kind of like the idea. Everyone deserves a chance at being productive and people should accept whatever they desire as payment, who am I to say what a good reward for someones time is?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495401999 126433374,126510628,2017-05-21 21:26:58,">>126510010 If you prevent them from being idiots, you can turn them into productive citizens. You're telling me the best way to teach a child to put his hand near the circular saw is to let him do so? What happens when he cuts his hand off? That's his future and theoretical productivity gone. Better would be to warn him away, and then show him the consequences of ignoring your advice. Tell him what happens, show him the gory pictures. He won't go near it again.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495402018 126433374,126510763,2017-05-21 21:28:12,">>126510628 That's why there are 2 systems. You're also providing a bad example - mutilation has nothing to do with a voluntary contract.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495402092 126433374,126510903,2017-05-21 21:29:37,">>126510315 That's why you cut off those who will squander the support they need. Some will, but some won't with either. What a out those who would thrive if they were supported?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495402177 126433374,126510955,2017-05-21 21:30:08,">>126510158 >I'm right leaning on the libertarian scale but I can't go full racialist as a mestizo. I feel you man, I'm a mestizo/german too but that's no excuse to be ignorant on race realism >How do you guys feel about National Synarchism or even Falangistas? the problem with synarchism is it doesn't account for incentives I think ownership of the state functions should be distributed in shares to the people that funded them, ie paid the taxes that went to them if and only if we can't find out who paid for what would I be for syndicating the property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495402208 126433374,126510999,2017-05-21 21:30:33,">>126510293 >If you have a production line you're only as productive as your worst worker While that is not strictly true, i understand what you mean by that. That is why it would be extremely basic and separated labor (like food production where one team weighs, another moves the sacks, another cuts the sacks open into a hopper for mixing). And when the cost of ""paying"" them is almost nothing, low levels of production is not really an issue. > heroine aint exactly cheap It would be in an ancap society. These drugs are very, very easy to make in bulk. The majority of the cost comes from the risk involved with the illegal trade. In ancap society they are legal so the cost of production reflects the price. H and many other hard drugs cost cents per hit when made in bulk.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495402233 126433374,126511250,2017-05-21 21:32:41,">>126510999 Fair enough. Godspeed Mr Poppy Seed",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495402361 126433374,126511271,2017-05-21 21:32:51,">>126510763 I'm addressing what you said about the woman and man ways of doing things, about stopping people from failing versus letting then fail in the hopes they will learn from it. You'll save many more by preventing them from failing than by letting them do so in the naive hope they'll pick themselves up. Are you saying that the intelligent should be prevented from failing, while the stupid should be allowed to fail? That is your two systems?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495402371 126433374,126511496,2017-05-21 21:35:10,">>126510903 the rate of addiction recovery for hardcore addicts is about 5%, that's a pretty small minority of that small minority, they mostly consist of people with good families that care about them and give the emotional support and genuine encouragement a state can never give no matter how much funding it gets family is extremely valuable and must be treated as such when the state intervenes it lowers the value of family",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495402510 126433374,126511499,2017-05-21 21:35:11,">>126511271 The two systems of teaching are both used. Of course for life-long mutilation you are going to use the woman way, because it is effective for intelligent people. The man way works more for stupid people. I don't want to save anyone, I want to promote success not failure. Get out of my property.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495402511 126433374,126511586,2017-05-21 21:36:09,">>126510999 Skip the heroin as growing poppies are a pain. Stick to a fentanyl analogue dissolved in a saline solution for use as a nasal spray. Completely synthetic, cheap, and no need for needles or any other risky method of administration",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495402569 126559332,126559332,2017-05-22 07:36:00,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - A I R B O R N E EDITION,Anonymous,libertypol.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,SK,,1495438560 126559332,126559383,2017-05-22 07:36:49,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495438609 126559332,126559412,2017-05-22 07:37:16,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1495438636 126559332,126559600,2017-05-22 07:39:28,what's the defferance between ancaps and libertarians?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495438768 126559332,126559849,2017-05-22 07:42:36,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495438956 126559332,126559942,2017-05-22 07:43:41,">>126559600 AnCaps believe in no government, libertarians believe in a minimal government - defense, security, justice. A good book on AnCap is Anatomy of the State, a good book on libertarianism is The Law.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495439021 126559332,126560005,2017-05-22 07:44:27,"MEDIA: GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495439067 126559332,126560050,2017-05-22 07:45:02,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,one less red.jpg,WveL1Mbr6DfKlpenGbWNkA==,SK,,1495439102 126559332,126560098,2017-05-22 07:45:39,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495439139 126559332,126560132,2017-05-22 07:46:03,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,hayek pepe.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,SK,,1495439163 126559332,126560334,2017-05-22 07:48:44,">>126559942 Libertarians are ancaps who have been subverted by leftist and or jewish ideas. They believe that freedom means enforced equality and or government mandated tolerance. Insert echoes into aforementioned terms liberally",,Anonymous,1495126884678.png,CY668sltFdxNdleyexho5g==,US,,1495439324 126559332,126560370,2017-05-22 07:49:07,"Any progression with the A I R B O R N E O V E N, Ameribro?",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,94es4GYfmexopmBhPAkBOg==,SK,,1495439347 126559332,126560490,2017-05-22 07:50:29,">>126560334 Capital L Libertarians yes, constitutional libertarians no. #notall.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495439429 126559332,126560507,2017-05-22 07:50:44,awesome,,Anonymous,unnamed.png,plGRtCA/MqZflf1yz7wVtA==,US,,1495439444 126559332,126560798,2017-05-22 07:54:07,">>126560490 My problem is that even the basic libertarian ideas like defense are so immediately subject to subversion by the state its not funny.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495439647 126559332,126560854,2017-05-22 07:54:51,">>126560798 They are. That's why we're the logical conclusion of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495439691 126559332,126562796,2017-05-22 08:16:17,"Had a good thread before. I feel like our support is growing. We should build a repertoire of arguments. Maybe a Google Doc. >>126548524",,Anonymous,strawpoll.jpg,thfnO+HWZIOO34KlGgb2nQ==,AU,,1495440977 126559332,126562849,2017-05-22 08:16:48,">>126560854 Im not sure that history has been kind to the concept of a constitution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495441008 126559332,126562963,2017-05-22 08:18:15,">>126562796 For the love of God please use the term ancap instead of libertarian. Libertarian has far too many negative, leftist connotations, especially in the US. Its a terrible term to get your point across",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495441095 126559332,126565228,2017-05-22 08:45:01,">pretend to be anarcho-capitalist/libertarian right >actually an egoist that wants to exploit the NAP as much as I can for specifically my benefit",,Anonymous,1422398168771.jpg,K+X3n2yg96fJpQB5IWZdAg==,US,,1495442701 126559332,126566461,2017-05-22 08:59:52,">>126565228 >get excluded from the best covenants >forced to live in a democratic state or some ancom shit hole",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495443592 126559332,126566526,2017-05-22 09:00:36,,,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,NL,,1495443636 126559332,126566858,2017-05-22 09:04:10,">>126566461 >implying I won't just move on to the next community to prey on Hide behind your spooks all you want, you'll never be safe from me.",,Anonymous,4371483222244602.jpg,N4LTwkeElkZ7Y/7fqtzdjA==,US,,1495443850 126559332,126568195,2017-05-22 09:18:48,"Jesus Christ, OP, this is beyond safe levels of retardation. Go back to the Kofola plant and be useful to the world once and for all.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495444728 126559332,126568256,2017-05-22 09:19:38,">>126568195 Don't tell me what to do.",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1495444778 126559332,126569141,2017-05-22 09:28:57,">>126568195 This!!! Communism only",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495445337 126559332,126570426,2017-05-22 09:42:03,">>126559332 >still not acknowledging geolibertarians",,Anonymous,AnarchismTree09.gif,7QPD8RGPI7DZoPFc+kgttQ==,US,,1495446123 126559332,126572751,2017-05-22 10:05:25,">>126559332 We call ourselves the ""party of principle,"" and we base property rights on the principle that everyone is entitled to the fruits of his labor. Land, however, is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and our system of land tenure is based not on labor, but on decrees of privilege issued from the state, called titles. In fact, the term ""real estate"" is Middle English (originally French) for ""royal state."" The ""title"" to land is the essence of the title of nobility, and the root of noble privilege. Therefor the only morally just way to run a government is to collect the economic rental value of land. All other taxes, property, sales, income, capital gains, ect, should be abolished in favor of a single tax on land value tax. How can suppose that a man has a right in himself to the fruits of his labor but not a right to labor somewhere? Allodial land ownership is a government granted privilege; how can you call yourself a lover of liberty while allowing the government to pick winners and losers? Make a man the king or owner of all the land it makes no difference as everyone will be indebted to him for life.",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1495447525 126559332,126574926,2017-05-22 10:28:59,,,Anonymous,youchosetodoatread.jpg,oDUW1Zma2/SAISRw3ApVkw==,US,,1495448939 126559332,126574990,2017-05-22 10:29:44,,,Anonymous,1495378505559.png,4t+ut3Llh8GTOQKGoN7j5A==,US,,1495448984 126559332,126575115,2017-05-22 10:31:01,">>126568195 >>126569141",,Anonymous,1495378462171.jpg,wS9YpzkZk92EN3C+YDcuJQ==,US,,1495449061 126559332,126576566,2017-05-22 10:46:25,,,Anonymous,emmememe.jpg,ii2fbCLmnFokum3pcpYiXg==,US,,1495449985 126559332,126577253,2017-05-22 10:54:13,">>126568195 Don't be a fag, take your safe version of lolberty elsewhwere, slovakia is p.cool",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495450453 126559332,126577313,2017-05-22 10:55:00,">>126570426 >left-libertarians and other shit-libs need to fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495450500 126559332,126578191,2017-05-22 11:05:00,">>126566858 *teleports behind you* pssssh.... don't tread on me.... kid *recreationally nukes you*",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495451100 126559332,126578484,2017-05-22 11:08:15,">>126560370 very little, I wasn't around much yesterday. hopefull i'll get some progress on it today.",,Anonymous,Huey.png,Fdl/vqjCT96ognG1xYgqbw==,US,,1495451295 126559332,126579071,2017-05-22 11:14:51,">>126560334 This, AnCaps are the real liber/aryans/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495451691 126559332,126579235,2017-05-22 11:16:28,"How can the working class compete with machines? Are ancaps this deluded?",,Anonymous,pepe.jpg,F3y6qCyDmVjIUsZkKgH99A==,US,,1495451788 126559332,126579723,2017-05-22 11:21:20,can anyone explain the trs meme that chris cantwell (roger cantrell) died??,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495452080 126559332,126580191,2017-05-22 11:26:02,">>126579235 which machines? the ones that the working class operate/fix/build?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495452362 126559332,126580809,2017-05-22 11:32:38,">>126570426 >>126572751 >>126576566 Leave with your pathetic ideology, geofag",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495452758 126559332,126584330,2017-05-22 12:06:02,">>126578484 Alright, that's looking better.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495454762 126559332,126584450,2017-05-22 12:07:07,">>126579723 I have no idea. I was also pretty bamboozled by it, figured it was related to the hours-long GenX-posting of theirs.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495454827 126559332,126584831,2017-05-22 12:10:25,">>126580191 Heres what he wants to say: ""but muh negroes are 2 dum too build and fix machine so thats your problem white boi""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495455025 126559332,126585500,2017-05-22 12:16:40,">>126579235 why compete with them? price of goods produced by machines would become massively available thus cost less and people would en masse move back to small home farms so food would be practically free. the economy would be >>126580191 practically and gift based. tons of white babies. profit?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495455400 126559332,126588111,2017-05-22 12:40:03,"What would your realistic tax plan be for your country? Obviously no taxation is unrealistic in any country in the modern political climate For me: >Reduce the bottom rate of income tax from 20% to 5% >Reduce the top rate of income tax from 40% to 10% >Reduce the Corporate tax from 12.5% to 6% >Scrap all forms of property taxes (house tax, car tax, etc) >Scrap USC and reduce PRSI",,Anonymous,Taxation.webm,1jnhzE8/U9uDnd0qe2Zypg==,IE,,1495456803 126559332,126589967,2017-05-22 12:57:34,">>126588111 flat tax all the way, 10-15% depends. Maybe 5%. simple. clean. straightforward.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495457854 126559332,126590547,2017-05-22 13:03:22,">>126584831 white people getting jobs instead of negroes? is that a problem?",,Anonymous,BrackPeoperr.png,ha+UWuzA+5sSPLSY4TPaUQ==,US,,1495458202 126740399,126740399,2017-05-23 09:27:43,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A","/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - PUTTING THE ""FREI"" IN FREIKORPS EDITION",Anonymous,pinochet death squads pol logo.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,SK,,1495531663 126740399,126740863,2017-05-23 09:31:34,">>126740399 >Augustus Sol Invictus First time I've heard of this guy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495531894 126740399,126740917,2017-05-23 09:32:06,">>126740863 Check him out in the videos section, I was just waiting for people to join in.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495531926 126740399,126740974,2017-05-23 09:32:30,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1495531950 126740399,126741027,2017-05-23 09:32:56,">>126740399 You can't build a working society around the bullshit concept of the NAP",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495531976 126740399,126741058,2017-05-23 09:33:14,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1495531994 126740399,126741135,2017-05-23 09:33:48,">>126741027 I agree. The best kind of society is where people kill each other for no reason, am I right?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495532028 126740399,126741208,2017-05-23 09:34:22,">>126741058 I recommend watching this >http://www.nobrain.dk",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495532062 126740399,126741304,2017-05-23 09:35:17,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495532117 126740399,126741354,2017-05-23 09:35:41,">>126741135 You can't force everyone to adhere to it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495532141 126740399,126741415,2017-05-23 09:36:14,">>126741208 Nah. Not gonna happen.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495532174 126740399,126741551,2017-05-23 09:37:34,">>126741354 If they don't adhere to the NAP, it means they are acting aggressively, so I don't feel much guilt about deporting or killing them, based on the severity of the violation.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495532254 126740399,126741631,2017-05-23 09:38:16,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,agorism.jpg,GmalMlcv2ZToWjpBLUmZyA==,SK,,1495532296 126740399,126741727,2017-05-23 09:39:06,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,free ride left side.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,SK,,1495532346 126740399,126741966,2017-05-23 09:41:05,"> IT""S OFF THE CHARTS, CAP'N !!!",,Anonymous,asspiedetector.gif,plEO98QCTYJcPQv+KB0RYg==,RO,,1495532465 126740399,126742046,2017-05-23 09:41:46,">>126740974 I'm an ancap and I disagree in some points: Whether the borders are open or closed it should be the owner of the property's job to decide. Drug use should be permitted. Consuming chemicals doesn't hurt people other than yourself and so it shouldn't be made illegal. However, if a person under drug use commits a crime they should be judged for it and penalized. Tossing people out of helicopters totally breaks the NAP. There's a difference between physically removing them and just straight up murdering them.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495532506 126740399,126742071,2017-05-23 09:42:00,">>126740399 Bro, who to vote next?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495532520 126740399,126742097,2017-05-23 09:42:16,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,do it for hoppe.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,SK,,1495532536 126740399,126742188,2017-05-23 09:43:09,">>126741551 and if they are more powerful than you and just shoot you for the lulz? what are you going to do? fight his private army on your own with your gun?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495532589 126740399,126742522,2017-05-23 09:46:11,">>126741631 > libertarian > fascism Well that broke the asspie meter. It somehow almost sounds more of an oxymoron than > anarcho > capitalism Almost. > tl;dr you people are retarded",,Anonymous,tread.webm,FDo2KdmCFItDgUwZFU6TTQ==,RO,,1495532771 126740399,126742635,2017-05-23 09:47:16,"I''m 90% on board with right wing libertarianism and have read Anatomy of the State, What Must be Done and The Private Production of Defense, and I'm currently working through The God That Failed. I agree with almost everything written in those books, but I still don't see how we're going to radically revamp the moral compass of the general population. We're morally deep inside Weimar territory and something must be done about this before we transition over into a minarchist/stateless society. We have all the possibilities in the world, yet the time preference of the general population has dramatically risen seemingly on it's own in the past 50 years. If we find a way to abolish the state now we're only going to have a lot of chaos and destruction, people would prefer to die in a whirlwind of solipsistic hedonism because that's the only thing they know and this general uncertainty in society would increase time preference even more drastically. We need to make the general population believe in the metaphysical and ontological once again. A spiritual revolution is needed along with the munincipalisation movement.",,Anonymous,anarhofasism.png,QV95oP7wP2eEvoDmj3vvcQ==,EE,,1495532836 126740399,126742684,2017-05-23 09:47:51,">>126742046 >borders Yes, ultimately, they are decided by the owners themselves, since there's no public property. >drugs You can do them in your community, I'd prefer to live in a community that bans drug use (even cigarettes). >helicopters If there's an assertive lefty, you kick him out of your property if you want to live. When he's got friends and guns and influence and wants to redistribute property, that's when helicopters are recommended. Antifa and the like get the helicopter along with socialist politicians, but the occasional bleeding-heart idiot is not worth wasting fuel on anyway. >>126742071 SMER :^) no really you should just do a drive-by on the faggots while they're entering the building in the morning.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495532871 126740399,126742855,2017-05-23 09:49:21,How can you be on board with libertarianism knowing 90% of society are sheep who need somebody to parent them? This truth woke me from libertarianism.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495532961 126740399,126742996,2017-05-23 09:50:30,">>126742188 The governent is more powerful than me and it can have me shot for the lulz without repercussions, yet it rarely does it. Wonder why? Because people have a moral compass. The fact that government erodes values and feeds moral subjectivity to schoolchildren means that it wants to have a brainless dystopian police force at its disposal. It can't do it if it doesn't have the monopoly on violence.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495533030 126740399,126743127,2017-05-23 09:51:43,">>126742855 >who need somebody to parent them It is safe to say that no one would have considered an elected parliament up to this task. Instead, almost everyone would have turned for help to one or more of three places: either the king himself, who is now no longer a monopolist; or a regional or local noble, magnate, or aristocrat; or a regional, national, or even international operating insurance company. Obviously, the king himself would fulfill these requirements that I just mentioned, and many people would have voluntarily chosen him as their protector. At the same time, however, many people also would have seceded from the king; of these, a large proportion would have likely turned to various regional nobles or magnates, who are now natural instead of hereditary nobility. And on a smaller territorial scale these local nobles would be able to offer the same advantages as protectors as the king himself would be able to offer. And this shift to regional protectors would bring about a significant decentralization in the organization and structure of the security industry. And this decentralization would only be reflective of, and in accordance with, private or subjective protection interests—that is, the centralization tendency that I mentioned before has also led to an overcentralization of the protection business.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1495533103 126740399,126743193,2017-05-23 09:52:16,">>126742522 You didn't watch the video, just as expected. Don't let the landers hit you on the way down, commie.",,Anonymous,pinochet cold one.png,y/URXgHFpq0RzXLGRQ1x2Q==,SK,,1495533136 126740399,126743412,2017-05-23 09:54:11,">>126742635 Yes, violent revolution might be required. If we are to have freedom in the future, we must sacrifice A LOT in the present. It's just time preference, but bigger.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495533251 126740399,126743551,2017-05-23 09:55:23,">>126742855 We're not against people who voluntarily subject themselves to being parented if they fail to enjoy the benefits of freedom. You want to join a covenant that works pretty much like a state, offering you police, healthcare, education, in exchange of monthly payments? Go for it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495533323 126740399,126743570,2017-05-23 09:55:31,">>126742855 People are not dumb enough not to work. If they want leadership, they are welcome to it. However, they have no right to drag the top 10% down to their level.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495533331 126740399,126743762,2017-05-23 09:57:08,">>126743127 The issue that arises is that said regional protectors rarely have any authority, and will only beg to the federal government for help if things get tough. The average citizen is so indoctrinated that they crave the power of somebody like a king to protect them, even the politicians think this way. What you are saying is sweet to the ears but untrue of the world. Centralized power is something people crave. A true king will be able to identify the issues of those that attempt to secede and will make them compliant through various means.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495533428 126740399,126744038,2017-05-23 09:59:24,">>126743762 Then we cull the indoctrinated. Half of them are on handouts anyways, so they're living off stolen property.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495533564 126740399,126744130,2017-05-23 10:00:10,">>126742855 I do believe in leadership and authority, I just don't believe in it being established violently. Authority via contract is more civilised and more efficient.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495533610 126740399,126744157,2017-05-23 10:00:23,">>126741354 And you can force everyone to adhere to your laws? Then why do you have criminals? The NAP is simply the ""cheapest"" set of rules you could buy from a protection insurance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495533623 126740399,126744310,2017-05-23 10:01:44,">>126744130 This.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495533704 126740399,126744592,2017-05-23 10:04:08,">>126740399 GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW 1488 1776 Expose the Jew. Name our enemy. Don't let them pit you off against the muslims. Don't let Jew media shill your reality away. It's not even a false flag at this point. The jew running the muslims as a proxy army against the west. EXPOSE THIS. Shill the Truth everywhere. Write it on walls, stick it to bus windows, piss GAS THE KIKES in to the snow. We have to present this truth to the world, its our offering. GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST HOLY SPIRIT",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495533848 126740399,126744704,2017-05-23 10:05:04,">>126744038 I like you. In that case i agree",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495533904 126740399,126744829,2017-05-23 10:06:13,">>126744592 Right on, /nsg/. We share more common ground than we're willing to accept.",,Anonymous,lrg and nsg.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,SK,,1495533973 126740399,126744906,2017-05-23 10:06:49,">>126740399 What does /lrg/ think about Mr Dapperton? https://www.youtube.com/user/hxcrocker75 He's the one who turned me into an Ancap, so I'm curious to know what's the popular opinion.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495534009 126740399,126745040,2017-05-23 10:07:57,">>126744906 He helped me along the way, and he has way less baggage than for example Milo, but I still think he's not all that great.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495534077 126740399,126745134,2017-05-23 10:08:47,">>126744906 I think he's a cringey faggot.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495534127 126740399,126745557,2017-05-23 10:12:23,Glad to see more Portuguese ancaps here. When do we physically remove our government?,,Anonymous,1495324292206.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,PT,,1495534343 126740399,126745696,2017-05-23 10:13:28,Best damn general on /pol/,,Anonymous,image.jpg,/hOx9LzeSqpOhSbURKfIUw==,US,,1495534408 126740399,126745820,2017-05-23 10:14:31,">>126745696 Thank you, senpai. Have a logo.",,Anonymous,fully automated helicopter rides.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,SK,,1495534471 126740399,126745846,2017-05-23 10:14:48,">>126745696 Is it true the US military is full 1776?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495534488 126740399,126746046,2017-05-23 10:16:31,"The Freikorps was not Libertarian. The NSDAP was an amalgamation of left and right wing ideas. Libertarianism is just right wing. They aren't the same at all.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1495534591 126740399,126746168,2017-05-23 10:17:39,">>126745557 Fake news there Schlomo. The ZOG burnt men women and children alive at Waco. You left out that little detail, you scummy kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495534659 126740399,126746175,2017-05-23 10:17:43,">>126745820 Noice, cant post it from my phone but my chopper image is coming along nicely.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495534663 126740399,126746300,2017-05-23 10:18:39,">>126745846 A lot of them are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495534719 126740399,126746391,2017-05-23 10:19:35,">>126746046 It's a meme, you dip.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495534775 126740399,126746526,2017-05-23 10:20:43,">>126745557 >>126746168 Yeah, that's an important detail. Timmy is /ourguy/, and he dindu nuffin unjustified.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495534843 126740399,126746595,2017-05-23 10:21:16,">>126746175 Great to hear, dude.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495534876 126740399,126746598,2017-05-23 10:21:17,">>126740399 What religion does everyone adhere here to? No nominal folk.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495534877 126740399,126746931,2017-05-23 10:24:04,">>126746598 I know God so well he lets me call him me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495535044 126740399,126747236,2017-05-23 10:26:41,">>126744592 >gas the kikes When we gas them, should we use this door to make an airtight seal to the gas chamber for best gassing?",,Anonymous,F5053140-4E06-4DFE-BF18-1240407CC7E5-2820-000002DFA9DB6137.jpg,VdgRZKYLhzsOIdF3PyvDrA==,US,,1495535201 126740399,126747412,2017-05-23 10:27:58,">>126747236 No, we will really gas them with the proper facilities we won't fake it we should do it with an air tight steel door.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495535278 126740399,126747566,2017-05-23 10:29:18,">>126746598 I'm agnostic, stopped calling myself an atheist a while ago. I'll get my life back on track and probably choose a religion of my own (secular upbringing). I'd probably choose Christianity influenced by Slavic Paganism that is already established in the region, don't yet know which denomination. I wouldn't rule out old Aryan stuff, either. I'll look into it, but probably Christianity, or at least live according to its morals.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495535358 126740399,126747864,2017-05-23 10:31:52,">>126742684 Hah, I already like you",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495535512 126740399,126748324,2017-05-23 10:36:05,">>126741058 > Helicopter Pilot's Handbook lol",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495535765 126740399,126748938,2017-05-23 10:41:26,">>126740399 Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years, so in order to fill this void in my being I need to exert my internal problems onto other human beings by participating in slavery called ""government"". I actually care about people so much I think they should be required by gun point to help fund roads! So they can get to work of course... I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, and drugs. Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care of them anyway. I've never seen a pothole in my life. Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,aclEqmQcWEnFmg9gjgBH8Q==,US,,1495536086 126740399,126749396,2017-05-23 10:45:05,">>126747566 Well I don't want to steer this thread off topic. But if you want to hear authentic Christianity this is a splendid presentation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mMQ12nmDow",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495536305 126740399,126749680,2017-05-23 10:47:39,">>126746598 Reformed Christian, Presbyterian. Been struggling a lot lately but that's what I believe in",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495536459 126740399,126749710,2017-05-23 10:47:55,">>126742684 How would a commune deal with someone who: (i) Is promoting communism/Marxism? (ii) Is in your case taking drugs? (iii) Selling drugs? (iv) Is bringing over third-worlders?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495536475 126740399,126749772,2017-05-23 10:48:26,">>126749680 Same. > Been struggling a lot lately but that's what I believe in In terms of faith? How come?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495536506 126740399,126750078,2017-05-23 10:51:02,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKic4tAjMgM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E This thread lacks Mark Passio. He is more important than Hoppe. The fuck is wrong with you niggers?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495536662 126740399,126750217,2017-05-23 10:52:15,">>126749710 Each according to their own rules. Mine would i) kick out the lefties by force if necessary ii) give the drug user an option to either quit or get out iii) kick out the dope pusher iv) deport them all, as they are not compliant with the NAP",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495536735 126740399,126750426,2017-05-23 10:53:59,">>126749772 Faith, mainly because of personal greed and being weak. I put my faith on hold at the start of this year, smoked a lot of weed, started watching pornography again, stopped studying the Bible. Now the guilt is building up so I've just been delaying the inevitable. I've only been a Christian for about 2 years",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495536839 126740399,126750554,2017-05-23 10:55:03,">>126750217 How do you make them get out? Would it be like, if you want to own property in this commune you sign this contract where if you break certain clauses you will be kicked out",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495536903 126740399,126750657,2017-05-23 10:56:10,">>126750554 Yeah, pretty much.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495536970 126740399,126751073,2017-05-23 10:59:50,">>126750426 > I put my faith on hold at the start of this year, smoked a lot of weed, started watching pornography again, stopped studying the Bible. Now the guilt is building up so I've just been delaying the inevitable. I've only been a Christian for about 2 years You need to repent and believe. You are a false professor and in danger. If you aren't reading the Bible you aren't feeding yourself. Of course you are starved. Make a habit (3-5 chapters a day). You cannot watch porn. Masturbation I believe is permissible. Weed is a sin. You are to be a steward of your body. To be in control. Have you been attending church? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1a6hMAEORA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UuYLsDO08Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjjSp6OVOGU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBeT5Aef0_I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObjG_dr3lrU",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495537190 126740399,126751184,2017-05-23 11:00:52,">>126750657 In your commune would people pay taxes for roads? What if someone refused to pay for the roads and he used them, how could money be taken from him?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495537252 126740399,126751478,2017-05-23 11:03:21,"Today I thought about a way to explain anarcho capitalism in a way (i believe) most normies would understand. >Imagine that in democracy you were only subjected to the laws and ruling of the party you voted for, that the amount of parties is endless and that conflicts between different parties would be solved by third party arbitration. That's what Anarcho Capitalism leads to, excepting the ""parties"" will be private cities or law insurances. What do you think?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495537401 126740399,126751902,2017-05-23 11:06:58,">>126751478 Great, I usually use the term ""free market in ideas of governance"" or similar terms. You should also ask them rhetorically if they would subordinate themselves to someone who declared himself as the ultimate arbiter in all cases of conflict and that he could unilaterally take from you a fee to protect you. When they say ""no wtf that's slavery"" you say, ""No. That's democracy :^)""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495537618 126740399,126752090,2017-05-23 11:08:36,">>126750426 hey bro, don't listen to >>126751073 You don't need religion. If you like weed, that's fine. Just live your life, be yourself, don't fuck over other people and always try to do good. If you find things you enjoy outside of that then enjoy them (everything in moderation)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495537716 126740399,126752282,2017-05-23 11:10:13,"This thread is like an oasis of freedom in a desert, nice job slovakian bro.",,Anonymous,DontThreadOnMe.jpg,GgrRsVSqKCmuFg2RFOG1jQ==,BR,,1495537813 126740399,126753193,2017-05-23 11:17:52,">>126751073 Thank you >>126752090 Sorry but I don't buy that. Drugs and pornography have made my life worse. I'm going to commit to being a better person and do what God wants.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495538272 126799073,126799073,2017-05-23 16:55:40,"Daily reminder that NatSocs and us are not an immediate threat to each other and should stop acting as such. >Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - NSG ARE FRIENDS NOT FOOD EDITION,Anonymous,fully automated helicopter rides.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,SK,,1495558540 126799073,126799207,2017-05-23 16:56:40,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,hoppe schwag.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,SK,,1495558600 126799073,126799361,2017-05-23 16:57:50,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,reading list lrg.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,SK,,1495558670 126799073,126799495,2017-05-23 16:58:50,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux",,Anonymous,lrg tiers.jpg,Ih5kYEktvivoO7oz5G1xhQ==,SK,,1495558730 126799073,126800238,2017-05-23 17:04:13,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,roads brian.jpg,bAojHWYPppmA58lOTo03Jw==,SK,,1495559053 126799073,126800311,2017-05-23 17:04:43,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,hoppe physically removedwave.png,/jtbl7UQsoomIFq0fpZbKQ==,SK,,1495559083 126799073,126800390,2017-05-23 17:05:17,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,mood.jpg,mGHqYbeIvF7QGK6Y/3HZ6w==,SK,,1495559117 126799073,126800926,2017-05-23 17:09:16,"/nsg/ checking in You guys are alright Don't go to Poland tomorrow",,Anonymous,IMG_7452.jpg,TIEMHgCKbSsq2KQWHfclDw==,US,,1495559356 126799073,126801923,2017-05-23 17:16:37,">>126800926 Yeah, you may get stabbed by a feral dindu or caught in a suicide bombing. Oh, wait.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495559797 126799073,126802995,2017-05-23 17:24:19,What would Libertarians do about Islam?,,Anonymous,Libertarian.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,IE,,1495560259 126799073,126803477,2017-05-23 17:27:48,"No, we are not friends. You so called libertarians are idiots. Go back to your meme balls",,Anonymous,pol reading.jpg,KZkr4DUVkjxjUQi6e2iVWQ==,AU,,1495560468 126799073,126803664,2017-05-23 17:29:02,">>126802995 I would rather not let muslims into my community.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495560542 126799073,126803891,2017-05-23 17:30:31,">>126803477 Get out, faggot. We'll provide the NatSocs cover for their operations and overthrow the (((traitors))) who sold us out and declared us, ""their"" own people, as their enemy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495560631 126799073,126804635,2017-05-23 17:35:30,">>126802995 Gather up the /k/ommandos and kick some ass over in the middle east",,Anonymous,Snow.png,TzG0ymFgWV8bzczWDRdgKg==,US,,1495560930 126799073,126805264,2017-05-23 17:40:00,"Micheal Malice is on jre, he's an ancap",,Anonymous,2017-05-23-173727_1280x800_scrot.png,bGWjnGITM54u3mdmTtuRCA==,US,,1495561200 126799073,126806001,2017-05-23 17:44:54,">pretend to be ancap >but in reality...",,Anonymous,1495380945478.png,oJ7HmWgiTPIvguRKW/BxJQ==,US,,1495561494 126799073,126806304,2017-05-23 17:47:20,">>126806001 Son of a bitch.",,Anonymous,1495255475854.jpg,XaPmJutxXM4Ejbbq2ehisg==,US,,1495561640 126799073,126807522,2017-05-23 17:55:44,"fuck it im bump liberty or death!",,Anonymous,ancapmeme.png,aX49el4Vl4itokoEAZIhww==,BE,,1495562144 126799073,126807725,2017-05-23 17:57:02,">>126799073 >NatSocs and us are not an immediate threat to each other and should stop acting as such >Libertarians and fascists shouldn't be enemies No surprise there",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495562222 126799073,126807835,2017-05-23 17:57:48,"I don't think imma have have 4 people hanging from the bottom, its gonna look a bit shit. so instead just give me a top 5-6 on the libertarian hitlist We need: Communist, a known left-libtard (maybe cucker?), a fashy, a globalist/democrat and whatever else you guys can come up with",,Anonymous,Huey.png,AYBxwdi4QtBDe1xtI5C3oA==,US,,1495562268 126799073,126808009,2017-05-23 17:58:53,">>126807835 I forgot to mention that this would be people being thrown from the chopper.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495562333 126799073,126808620,2017-05-23 18:03:09,,,Anonymous,eternal ancap.jpg,hKzOBMYduNxdqLdTTK+7aA==,US,,1495562589 126799073,126809317,2017-05-23 18:08:25,,,Anonymous,Huey.png,sOuC1OiIlmcirsChZEOelA==,US,,1495562905 126881408,126881408,2017-05-24 05:14:59,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. A reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ Pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS EDITION,Anonymous,images.jpg,+cAicWTTdvg5r+CqCoeNfw==,GB,,1495602899 126881408,126881459,2017-05-24 05:15:41,"GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,24eda9505473aac18f3d03c3ae56e58c8ebb1b9186cad64a1c99537d916ad89c.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,GB,,1495602941 126881408,126881502,2017-05-24 05:16:14,,,Anonymous,eJwFwVsOhCAMAMC7cABaXlW8DUGCZpUSqPFjs3ffma96xqU2dYj0uQHs58w8dj2FR6pFV-Z6ldTPqTPfkERSPu7SZIJD68muuFjnI0VCBGfI-GBM8GtYEDESPO3T-G26t6p-fwUiIs0.WsasrNuV2MigpFwAoL0DJ3OiRhc.png,mrweB6rg1l658iHspN1L6g==,GB,,1495602974 126881408,126882232,2017-05-24 05:27:32,">>126881408 How would lrg deal with the shrinking birthrates in the West?",,Anonymous,1495012608536.png,h7n5ES6sCOZEvCLTG8ETpw==,PT,,1495603652 126881408,126884806,2017-05-24 06:02:44,">>126882232 they don't care",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495605764 126881408,126885141,2017-05-24 06:07:09,,,Anonymous,18595415_10155359876062264_6832340512822942007_o.jpg,Gvad+4xfwUh4l4u7prXduw==,IE,,1495606029 126881408,126886353,2017-05-24 06:24:03,">>126882232 >>126884806 kickinng all the dregs on society out of our lands so our people may propser.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495607043 126881408,126886489,2017-05-24 06:25:53,"/////ANTI-EGALITARIANISM///// >We began by considering the common view that the egalitarians, despite a modicum of impracticality, have ethics and moral idealism on their side. We end with the conclusion that egalitarians, however intelligent as individuals, deny the very basis of human intelligence and of human reason: the identification of the ontological structure of reality, of the laws of human nature, and the universe. In so doing, the egalitarians are acting as terribly spoiled children, denying the structure of reality on behalf of the rapid materialization of their own absurd fantasies. Not only spoiled but also highly dangerous; for the power of ideas is such that the egalitarians have a fair chance of destroying the very universe that they wish to deny and transcend, and to bring that universe crashing around all of our ears. Since their methodology and their goals deny the very structure of humanity and of the universe, the egalitarians are profoundly antihuman; and, therefore, their ideology and their activities may be set down as profoundly evil as well. Egalitarians do not have ethics on their side unless one can maintain that the destruction of civilization, and even of the human race itself, may be crowned with the laurel wreath of a high and laudable morality. >EGALITARIANISM AS A REVOLT AGAINST NATURE https://mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0 >RACE! - MURRAY ROTHBARD https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html THE BELL CURVE - RICHARD J. HERRNSTEIN & CHARLES MURRAY https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/the-bell-curve.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495607153 126881408,126886596,2017-05-24 06:27:17,"These two should be considered required reading to post in this thread. >ANATOMY OF THE STATE - MURRAY ROTHBARD https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >DEMOCRACY-THE GOD THAT FAILED - HANS-HERMANN HOPPE http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1495607237 126881408,126886643,2017-05-24 06:27:51,"ANTI-EGALITARIANISM >We began by considering the common view that the egalitarians, despite a modicum of impracticality, have ethics and moral idealism on their side. We end with the conclusion that egalitarians, however intelligent as individuals, deny the very basis of human intelligence and of human reason: the identification of the ontological structure of reality, of the laws of human nature, and the universe. In so doing, the egalitarians are acting as terribly spoiled children, denying the structure of reality on behalf of the rapid materialization of their own absurd fantasies. Not only spoiled but also highly dangerous; for the power of ideas is such that the egalitarians have a fair chance of destroying the very universe that they wish to deny and transcend, and to bring that universe crashing around all of our ears. Since their methodology and their goals deny the very structure of humanity and of the universe, the egalitarians are profoundly antihuman; and, therefore, their ideology and their activities may be set down as profoundly evil as well. Egalitarians do not have ethics on their side unless one can maintain that the destruction of civilization, and even of the human race itself, may be crowned with the laurel wreath of a high and laudable morality. >EGALITARIANISM AS A REVOLT AGAINST NATURE https://mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0 >RACE! - MURRAY ROTHBARD https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >THE BELL CURVE - RICHARD J. HERRNSTEIN & CHARLES MURRAY https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/the-bell-curve.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495607271 126881408,126886788,2017-05-24 06:29:31,">tfw live in total socialism I can't do this anymore, I don't even know what would happen if I sperged out, best case scenario someone would think I'm a ""neoliberal"" and try to kick my teeth in. Best case.",,Anonymous,1492980589829.jpg,JUTSoSZ/p2OaO6bgvpOANw==,SI,,1495607371 126881408,126886860,2017-05-24 06:30:26,">THE MEANING OF FREEDOM - Augustus Invictus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVqwe3qTUM This is also important for you all to hear.",,Anonymous,invictus-rac.jpg,XpBTsblV0DEwmMM4Vn7xEQ==,US,,1495607426 126881408,126887099,2017-05-24 06:33:18,">>126886788 must suck ass. You gotta plan to get out of there?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495607598 126881408,126887345,2017-05-24 06:36:36,>is freedom the choice to eat cheetos and watch sitcoms? Or is the freedom to follow your destiny without interference?,,Anonymous,1-56.jpg,IvruVj6py/C4DF+Er0YV/w==,US,,1495607796 126881408,126887735,2017-05-24 06:41:29,">>126887099 Not yet, since I'm not done with my education yet, but then yes, immediately. Anyone who believes what we believe, should try and leave EU as soon as possible. In my country, there are no libertarians, yet left-wing media constantly go on about them as the single greatest threat to humanity. The pope also agrees that libertarians are scum of the earth and need to be eradicated. These people know we're their biggest threat, and they're already trying to condition people into believing we should all be killed. If you believe what I believe and live in the EU, leave immediately, and run as fast as you can, before it's too late. Trust me, you're already less free than an average Soviet bloc citizen, you're just fatter and more bored.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1495608089 126881408,126888060,2017-05-24 06:45:18,">>126887735 >you're already less free than an average Soviet bloc citizen, you're just fatter and more bored. oh don't I know it. Good luck, I hope you can get out alive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495608318 126881408,126888856,2017-05-24 06:55:16,"Don't we have the best domestic terroists /lrg/? Timothy ""end the state with ammonium nitrate"" McVeigh Timothy ""the holy truck pf non-agression "" McVeigh Timothy ""what of the building consents tho "" McVeigh Timothy ""blow up the feds like your grandpa's heart on meds "" McVeigh Timothy ""physically removing a federal building "" McVeigh Timothy ""one man minuteman "" McVeigh Timothy ""Locke's Glock is pointing your cock "" McVeigh Timothy ""another Waco and DC turns into Aleppo "" McVeigh Timothy ""every Statist is on my kill-list"" McVeigh Timothy ""Another Clinton and I release Amarggedon"" McVeigh Timothy ""Hippity Hoppity,bomb public property"" McVeigh Timothy ""not owning an AR-15 should be a sin"" McVeigh Timothy ""even the score using c4"" mcveigh Timothy ""bomb the D.E.A. to protect your 2nd A"" Mcveigh Timothy "" be a hero, nuke the bureau"" Mcveigh Make 'em Pay McVeigh The Expropriator Eliminator Tim ""See a Fed, Kill 'im Dead"" McVeigh totes /ourguy/",,Anonymous,ourguy.jpg,5vHOFOPgO/tjKcrNY1d9VQ==,US,,1495608916 126881408,126890306,2017-05-24 07:14:23,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495610063 126881408,126891817,2017-05-24 07:33:38,"Bump, why do the more serious /lrg/s gotta be slid?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495611218 126881408,126892340,2017-05-24 07:40:13,,,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,8G1fm9Y0/xnxyU54Hl3mBA==,US,,1495611613 126881408,126892369,2017-05-24 07:40:27,,,Anonymous,AnarchoCapitalism.png,j5wbFkPBZ5wTXDso5Ejjxg==,US,,1495611627 126881408,126892391,2017-05-24 07:40:40,,,Anonymous,RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1495611640 126881408,126893119,2017-05-24 07:50:02,Propaganda dump incoming.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495612202 126881408,126893144,2017-05-24 07:50:17,,,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1495612217 126881408,126893169,2017-05-24 07:50:35,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1495612235 126881408,126893191,2017-05-24 07:50:56,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1495612256 126881408,126893223,2017-05-24 07:51:23,,,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1495612283 126881408,126893229,2017-05-24 07:51:26,Best threads :3,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495612286 126881408,126893770,2017-05-24 07:58:34,">>126893229 Cheers mate",,Anonymous,don_t_tread_on_me_confederate_flag_3_x_5_1.jpg,R5UhtC+lZRG9OGE1kSQzXw==,US,,1495612714 126881408,126894061,2017-05-24 08:02:10,,,Anonymous,quote_freedom_does_not_mean_that_right_to_do_whatever_we_please_but_rather_to_do_as_we_ought_fulton_j_sheen_94_3_0312.jpg,OZFWkqtBzu2EcOgXEPfaKw==,US,,1495612930 126881408,126894646,2017-05-24 08:09:44,,,Anonymous,eJwNyFEOgyAMANC7cADqSkHxNgQJmikltMaPZXff3uf7mHucZjW7apcVYDsk89isKI9Ui63M9SypH2IzX5BUU96v0lQAI0UKtMTZO__Igv_Xn2iZ5uAwIuKLCO72bvw021s13x8KjCLr.png,S+yqfcOC0Wj+9gR2snLXPA==,US,,1495613384 126881408,126896002,2017-05-24 08:26:15,Fucking niggers.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495614375 126938522,126938522,2017-05-24 15:06:05,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL,Anonymous,1491227560920.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,BE,,1495638365 126938522,126938642,2017-05-24 15:07:05,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,ancapmeme.png,aX49el4Vl4itokoEAZIhww==,BE,,1495638425 126938522,126938736,2017-05-24 15:07:50,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,1491242065834.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,BE,,1495638470 126938522,126938839,2017-05-24 15:08:38,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux",,Anonymous,17626689_1524416717569853_3183649236893938146_n.jpg,6phyNW8jt0TYjVt826QEvA==,BE,,1495638518 126938522,126938894,2017-05-24 15:09:04,">>126938522 Okay faggots, how do you travel long distances in an ancap society if you want to go to one of your estates in the middle of nowhere and have to cross a shit ton of foreign property?",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1495638544 126938522,126938953,2017-05-24 15:09:33,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,1491345042673.jpg,a7J+zzGxOke7onga0nE0hQ==,BE,,1495638573 126938522,126939048,2017-05-24 15:10:21,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,1490022304452.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,BE,,1495638621 126938522,126939133,2017-05-24 15:11:03,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,1490627675480.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,BE,,1495638663 126938522,126939241,2017-05-24 15:11:55,">>126938522 >>126938642 >>126938736 >2017 >Libertarian Libertarianism is long dead, my friend. Hop aboard the fascism express.",,Anonymous,18301075_10158525914055328_1428876539796410240_n.jpg,/ANh17gVwqGEdlJAPuVXRg==,US,,1495638715 126938522,126939598,2017-05-24 15:15:03,">>126938894 There will be contracts between different market actors, companies and communal leaders concerning transportation. Who would want to have a company when no one can reach it?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495638903 126938522,126939977,2017-05-24 15:18:17,">>126939241 You probably form your opinion on libertarianism from ancap smiley memes and the leftist bullshit the Libertarian Party speaks.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495639097 126938522,126940104,2017-05-24 15:19:15,">>126939598 Well, let's say that your community is surrounded by others that don't want your roads going through their property, what do then?",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1495639155 126938522,126941207,2017-05-24 15:27:59,">>126940104 Perhaps they have a reason for it. Your community might be considered bad in case of criminal activity or drug use. Otherwise, this would likely never be the case, since neigbouring communities mostly have the same economic intersets. Same with b.e. European countries that engage in free trade.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495639679 126995007,126995007,2017-05-24 23:04:58,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. A reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ Pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,18620403_10213450586084382_268428483281456220_n.jpg,ugAXlzu+rhFyl2PaRcHeaw==,US,,1495667098 127031071,127031071,2017-05-25 06:19:07,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - HAIL HOPPE,Anonymous,Classic2.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1495693147 127031071,127031197,2017-05-25 06:20:39,">ANATOMY OF THE STATE - MURRAY ROTHBARD https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >DEMOCRACY-THE GOD THAT FAILED - HANS-HERMANN HOPPE http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf This should be considered required reading for posting in this thread. If you havent read these please do.",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1495693239 127031071,127031227,2017-05-25 06:21:09,"/////ANTI-EGALITARIANISM///// >We began by considering the common view that the egalitarians, despite a modicum of impracticality, have ethics and moral idealism on their side. We end with the conclusion that egalitarians, however intelligent as individuals, deny the very basis of human intelligence and of human reason: the identification of the ontological structure of reality, of the laws of human nature, and the universe. In so doing, the egalitarians are acting as terribly spoiled children, denying the structure of reality on behalf of the rapid materialization of their own absurd fantasies. Not only spoiled but also highly dangerous; for the power of ideas is such that the egalitarians have a fair chance of destroying the very universe that they wish to deny and transcend, and to bring that universe crashing around all of our ears. Since their methodology and their goals deny the very structure of humanity and of the universe, the egalitarians are profoundly antihuman; and, therefore, their ideology and their activities may be set down as profoundly evil as well. Egalitarians do not have ethics on their side unless one can maintain that the destruction of civilization, and even of the human race itself, may be crowned with the laurel wreath of a high and laudable morality. >EGALITARIANISM AS A REVOLT AGAINST NATURE https://mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0 >RACE! - MURRAY ROTHBARD https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1495693269 127031071,127031302,2017-05-25 06:22:20,,,Anonymous,Huey.png,POQV+TK7gpq+vzSuUsaI6w==,US,,1495693340 127031071,127031438,2017-05-25 06:24:20,"Support right-wing populist movements! Support Nationalist and secessionist movements!",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1495693460 127031071,127031501,2017-05-25 06:25:11,"Send Left-""Libertarians"" back on their way to reddit!",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1495693511 127031071,127031608,2017-05-25 06:26:44,,,Anonymous,fightback.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1495693604 127031071,127031672,2017-05-25 06:27:33,>It's not real capitalism!!,,Anonymous,worthfightingfor.jpg,3qMf0/ARSM1YRt5f1PJhmA==,SE,,1495693653 127031071,127031836,2017-05-25 06:30:22,">>127031672 That's Jews exploiting nogs in a liberal egalitarian society. What do you expect? Liberalism is trash.",,Anonymous,AncapAndy_0.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,US,,1495693822 127031071,127032341,2017-05-25 06:38:06,">>127031836 >>127031836 But we don't live in an egalitarian society. The trend of the last 200 years is consolidation of power in financial institutions. Jews hold the financial power. Liberalism is a buzzword that only Americans care about.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495694286 127031071,127032617,2017-05-25 06:42:00,">>127031672 >>127032341 >Jews are forcing muslim integration into your country through the state apparatus >Obviously this is the result of laissez-faire. The rapid degeneration of your country is not the result of laissez-faire, its quite clearly the state that prevents you from discriminating against jews, homosexuals, muslims. You don't have free speech, you don't have a right to bear arms, you don't have laissez-faire. Jews in the state are manipulating your market.",,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1495694520 127031071,127032749,2017-05-25 06:44:03,,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495694643 127031071,127032869,2017-05-25 06:45:37,">>127031071 feels good having a four day weekend how's going freedom lovers ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495694737 127031071,127032877,2017-05-25 06:45:41,,,Anonymous,1485703346145.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1495694741 127031071,127033020,2017-05-25 06:47:48,">>127032869 goin' good my dude, hows shit in frogland? lotta commies still fucking shit up?",,Anonymous,Master_Race.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1495694868 127031071,127033102,2017-05-25 06:48:52,">>127031302 Yo why does everyone put Pinochet and Sneks together, surely Pinochet is the bane of a libertarians existence because the government doing extrajudicial killings is like the opposite of limited government?",,Anonymous,LEO.png,6VqKuWHQ964n5nW+SAgAIg==,GB,,1495694932 127031071,127033251,2017-05-25 06:50:53,daily thread fellating your jewish idols?,,Anonymous,1472274719585.jpg,eTPHEaYE2koLMWsr+y8tXw==,NL,,1495695053 127031071,127033284,2017-05-25 06:51:23,">>127033102 Pinochet is the symbol of Libertarian Fascism, Kill commies, open up the markets. very memeable. btw trying to abolish property is a nap violation, they should be thrown from helicopters.",,Anonymous,1495584340120.jpg,wx/RpFd6szojjrZtbqa7CQ==,US,,1495695083 127031071,127033370,2017-05-25 06:52:40,">>127033251 All bolshevism/socialism is disgenic even if on a national level only.",,Anonymous,1495582601283.jpg,2BX4g1ZiVg9G7E0W/rQnHw==,US,,1495695160 127031071,127033446,2017-05-25 06:53:50,">>127032617 Change your thinking. The free market tends towards efficient production and consumption. If the state is a useful tool for the control and management of the people under these 2 principles then it must necessarily form in laissez-faire conditions. If it is NOT an effective control system, then why complain about it? The rapid destruction of ethnic homogeneity in previously homogenous european countries has to do with the destruction of the middle class and cultural cohesion. A stupid, atomized and deracinated labor force is preferable for efficient control of production and consumption.",,Anonymous,oba.jpg,tvu8NGKm4xqi9UHwhpdpXw==,SE,,1495695230 127031071,127033456,2017-05-25 06:54:04,">libertarian >right Uh pizza gate wuz okay cos the age of consent if for dirty statists",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495695244 127031071,127033467,2017-05-25 06:54:13,">>127033284 >Libertarian Fascism How is that possible? Fascism is like pure collectivism with no individual elements as everyone follows the leader and state where as Liberalism is pure individualism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495695253 127031071,127033522,2017-05-25 06:54:58,">>127031071 Oy vey",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495695298 127031071,127033567,2017-05-25 06:55:33,">>127033456 out filthy lefty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495695333 127031071,127033665,2017-05-25 06:57:02,">>127033020 >hows shit in frogland? lotta commies still fucking shit up? right now we just discovered one of Macron's ministers was a crook nobody expected that !!! kek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495695422 127031071,127033769,2017-05-25 06:58:32,">>127033251 Seemingly an intelligent stance.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495695512 127031071,127033778,2017-05-25 06:58:38,Why are libertarians so retarded?,,Anonymous,1465748397820.png,NFkugI73xguPZpONNYKAOA==,US,,1495695518 127031071,127033960,2017-05-25 07:01:21,">>127033778 frog poster",,Anonymous,pinochet rep.jpg,UnlPDCdX1/AwjbOMEzHW5A==,AU,,1495695681 127031071,127034005,2017-05-25 07:01:58,">>127033446 >If it is NOT an effective control system, then why complain about it? The state is effective at destroying the family unit and preserving it totalitarianism. > A stupid, atomized and deracinated labor force is preferable for efficient control of production and consumption. Yeah, when your running an authoritarian monopoly. Again, sweden, isn't what we'd call a ""free market"" economic system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495695718 127031071,127034312,2017-05-25 07:06:32,"I'm a libertarian but I think the idea that the free market solves all problems meme is too simplistic. Some things require voluntary association and compacts, still others require some form of tax(?) for the maintenance of the commons. I'm open to ideas on this though.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495695992 127031071,127034370,2017-05-25 07:07:18,">>127034005 You are dodging the argument. Like incorporation is a market mechanism, so is the state.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495696038 127031071,127034382,2017-05-25 07:07:29,">>127034312 How does your libertarian society even compete?",,Anonymous,130627_DISM_NaziSocialClubs.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg,E+tJO7ri4i0YMOEresQ6PQ==,US,,1495696049 127031071,127034433,2017-05-25 07:08:12,">>127034382 by surviving more than 12 years",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495696092 127031071,127034494,2017-05-25 07:09:08,">>127034312 The solution is to not have ""commons"" funded by the state but rather contractual ""covenant property"" that would be considered private property funded by the owner (s)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495696148 127031071,127034756,2017-05-25 07:12:39,"The primary argument of the libertarian is that free markets are better because they create wealth But when you point out that wealth doesn't really seem to corellate to free markets, it corellates more strongly with genetics, the free market ideology falls apart. Suddenly you see how much more important it is to pursue policies that shore up the genome. Maintaining a common community, culture, heritage becomes so much more important than just ""muh freedom"" Most people don't even want freedom, nor do they do better when given freedom. They want to be part of something, a social order. They want someone to give them goals and values and villains to overcome. We didn't evolve to be individuals, we evolved to be part of a tribal social unit. Tribal networks will outcompete a society of individuals every single time, and be happier too Pic related, ""freedom""",,Anonymous,1495466278297.jpg,tH2qVixkkWu+vz2oB0Lsag==,US,,1495696359 127031071,127034761,2017-05-25 07:12:43,">>127034494 What about monopolies? It seems to me they are one of the bad edge-cases of a free market. A predatory monopoly is almost as bad as government in some cases.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495696363 127031071,127035160,2017-05-25 07:18:11,">>127034370 I agree that the state acts as a property owner and is involved in the market, but that has nothing to do with Libertarian Capitalism. The state is a violent Monopoly that prevents free entry into that market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495696691 127031071,127035420,2017-05-25 07:21:25,">>127034761 A monopoly is what the states is. A monopoly prevents free entry to a market. If there is a monopoly there is no free market. We must fight them the same as the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495696885 127031071,127035564,2017-05-25 07:23:12,">>127034756 >But when you point out that wealth doesn't really seem to corellate to free markets, it corellates more strongly with genetics Chili has the freest market in south America Venezuela is the least free both are mainly mestizos and Chili is superior to Venezuela in any terms of economics since they are hispanics they will never reach white/asian levels of livings but still a free market is superior to central planning >Tribal networks will outcompete a society of individuals every single time, and be happier too Wrong,African niggers are the most tribal,collectivist social order ever existing and their greatest invention was mudhuts",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495696992 127031071,127035615,2017-05-25 07:23:48,">>127035420 Some industries like electricity should have multiple providers, however the infrastructure shouldn't be duplicated since its a waste of effort. How then can this system be resolved, especially if one of the providers is trying to play dirty?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495697028 127031071,127035701,2017-05-25 07:25:04,">>127034756 Jewish enslavement to degeneracy is not freedom. Do you really think the natural state of man is to dress like a dog, dye your hair blue and suck dicks? >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVqwe3qTUM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495697104 127031071,127036022,2017-05-25 07:29:20,">>127031672 KEYNES DINDU NUFFIN kys.",,Anonymous,keynes dindu nuffin.png,Tf52SdP8QB2CEXd+b7Cc4Q==,US,,1495697360 127031071,127036091,2017-05-25 07:30:21,">>127035615 Needless duplication is probably a legitimate concern, i doubt there will be 10 roads built next to each other if the first road serves it's purpose well tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495697421 127031071,127036408,2017-05-25 07:34:51,">>127035160 You have to look at economics as a total war. A cost-benefit analysis is applicable to anything, not just moves that we deem 'permissible'. Look at the way that corporations operate. There is a precedent for everything from assassination to paramilitary funding. Even common marketing practices initially come from military sources. You shouldn't understand the state as a misguided attempt to protect individual rights that backfires and creates monopolies. The state is imposed on people by financial power because it is an effective way of consolidating power.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495697691 127031071,127036586,2017-05-25 07:37:01,">>127036022 tiny peanut brain. I don't care about keynes.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495697821 127031071,127037263,2017-05-25 07:46:39,">>127031071 I think you guys should definitely team up with the natsocs. You can argue and shit yourself over ""bootlicking"" and shit but in the end, you share a ton of philosophy and goals",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495698399 127031071,127037983,2017-05-25 07:55:20,">>127037263 I agree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495698920 127031071,127037991,2017-05-25 07:55:24,">>127037263 Why? Snekbois are useful idiots for jewish interests. They believe they must fight the ghosts of dead commies and the chubby unemployed dyke feminist next door, or die trying.",,Anonymous,ibman.jpg,zbKWs8Qv/bWUrOgm0tJFxw==,SE,,1495698924 127031071,127038318,2017-05-25 07:59:30,">>127037991 But at first you need to solve society. Solve the degeneracy and all that. As much as you'd argue about raw, unregulated capitalism, you need to solve society first, otherwise every system will collapse back into what we've got .... or worse.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495699170 127031071,127039237,2017-05-25 08:10:33,">>127038318 Degeneracy isn't a bottom-up problem. The reason young girls idolize whores that sing about having threesomes and eating cum, is jewish capitalist lizard-men and the system that protects them. Deregulation only serves to make it worse. Besides, it makes no sense to fight symptoms while ignoring the source. Nationalize the economy, remove foreign economic interests, ensure self-sufficiency and try to move the culture to a healthy and happy place. Then we can talk about the best way to manage the local economy.",,Anonymous,colonelG.jpg,9+nc8b8qJNoXvoAXenmwXQ==,SE,,1495699833 127031071,127039597,2017-05-25 08:14:36,">>127031501 I guess the cringey fuck who made that image didn't realise that the man who coined the word libertarian was a literal communist.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495700076 127031071,127040043,2017-05-25 08:20:19,">>127039237 Lol, yeah let the swedish government nationalize the economy, I'm sure they'll work towards your interests and not be corrupt. >Inb4 we'll kill the Jews in the state. You'll do no such thing, the state owns you and wouldn't allow any ""anti-Semitism""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495700419 127031071,127040540,2017-05-25 08:26:37,"If you believe in statism you might as well just kill yourself, slave.",,Anonymous,Screenshot 2017-03-14 at 12.44.44 PM.png,T3vuG7w+ecd9twLZ9JEeBw==,US,,1495700797 127031071,127040608,2017-05-25 08:27:19,">>127040043 It's so dumb that you keep talking about the 'state' and how it's such a problem while simultaneously admitting that the state is zionist occupied. So you're saying give the economy directly to the jews without intermediary? To reduce paperwork? As long as the state is controlled by foreign interests, then the nationalizing of the economy has nothing to do with giving power to the state. The nation is an ethnic concept and the ethnic population should seize control over natural resources and capital.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495700839 127031071,127041983,2017-05-25 08:43:08,">>127040540 Anarchy is a fact, adding -capitalism just tells me you're to much of a pawn to act in your own self-interest.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495701788 127031071,127042103,2017-05-25 08:44:38,">>127040540 autarchism would be the proper terms than anarchism",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495701878 127031071,127042452,2017-05-25 08:49:10,"Tom woods and molymeme: Western Civilization https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4pPLwAL_Qo",,Anonymous,1472454629966.png,jiy0UGZc2PWN6dLbs7kjqQ==,AU,,1495702150 127031071,127045543,2017-05-25 09:25:56,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495704356 127031071,127045599,2017-05-25 09:26:34,">>127031071 Open question to fellow libertarians. What do you think of our racially integrated society? Do you think society should revert to segration like the natsoc advocate? >>127039237 Once the government gains certain powers it is almost impossible to take them back.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495704394 127031071,127045681,2017-05-25 09:27:30,">>127034433 Top Kek.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495704450 127031071,127046254,2017-05-25 09:33:53,">>127045599 Voluntary racial segregation would be preferable. No doubt that people in homogenous societies work well together.",,Anonymous,1488498894827.png,g0lFfNuCrFHnq8+5VttYDw==,US,,1495704833 127031071,127046648,2017-05-25 09:38:35,">>127046254 Thanks for your answer Most people do voluntary segragate themselves anyhow. I do believe that integrated societies can work just fine though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495705115 127031071,127047398,2017-05-25 09:46:52,">>127046648 Eh, I'm kinda a disbeliever of integration. Unless everyone is a cosmopolite hipster some group is gonna have beef with another group.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495705612 127031071,127047978,2017-05-25 09:53:17,,,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1495705997 127031071,127048878,2017-05-25 10:02:45,">>127045599 We believe in the subjectivity of value to its logical conclusion, this means that if someone values racial integrity within his community over other, perhaps positive values of racial integration, then the market should be allowed to attend their demands. It's hard to have absolute truths about what would be the most successful form of society, perhaps one where everyone is white, perhaps one with vetted high-skill immigration, perhaps one without borders at all, but if we don't allow the market to show us, then we will never know.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495706565 127031071,127049495,2017-05-25 10:08:45,"Threads been quite lately, I think we alienated all the r_libertarians, and /liberty/arians. Great success!",,Anonymous,oklahoma_00000.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,US,,1495706925 127031071,127049529,2017-05-25 10:09:03,">>127049495 *Quiet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495706943 127031071,127050724,2017-05-25 10:21:30,">>127031438 >Support nationalist and secessionist movements! What do you mean by that? Even if it's something like Nordfront or the American Nazi Party which goes against everything the concept of liberty goes against? A lot of you seem to have been integrated by /pol/ and just become pseudo-nazis instead of libertarians.",,Anonymous,trial by combat.jpg,EK3zNI5+z4cSFg8cdPqhUA==,EE,,1495707690 127031071,127050807,2017-05-25 10:22:11,">>127050724 >goes against everything the concept of liberty goes against One too many ""goes against"", I should really reread my posts.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1495707731 127031071,127050945,2017-05-25 10:23:34,">>127050724 no government > many governments > few government",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495707814 127031071,127051081,2017-05-25 10:24:58,">>127050945 The Frenchman gets it, in a globalized world Nationalism is a step towards decentralization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495707898 127031071,127051304,2017-05-25 10:27:20,">>127051081 I'm not going to support nationalists if they want to take away basic human rights from anyone they deem as degenerates and control every part of my life.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1495708040 127031071,127051734,2017-05-25 10:31:27,">>127051304 You should oppose those things, I'm just saying you should support things like brexit and the like. That doesn't mean you should support fascism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495708287 127031071,127052201,2017-05-25 10:36:05,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,/hOx9LzeSqpOhSbURKfIUw==,US,,1495708565 127031071,127052311,2017-05-25 10:36:58,"Oh hey it's this thread again. Didn't learn when your last /general/ died a bit ago, huh? Go back.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495708618 127031071,127052439,2017-05-25 10:38:17,">>127052311 we're here since a long time kid",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495708697 127031071,127053113,2017-05-25 10:44:43,">>127052311 Go back where? /pol/ is my native board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495709083 127031071,127053440,2017-05-25 10:48:00,">>127051304 Look at the current developments in Europe. Do you think the right wing populists like the AfD here in Germany, Geert in Netherlands and all the others are the statists? No, they oppose the EU, the biggest danger to freedom in our current times. EVen if they support protectionism like Front National, it is still better to support a populist party that favors protectionism than to support parties like our ""libertarian"" party, that might advocate for some market liberal reforms but jerks off to the idea of a strong EU. Before we tackle the economy we need to slay the behemoth that is the elite in Brussels. Without straight priorities we will all die in Gulags within the next ten years.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495709280 127031071,127053491,2017-05-25 10:48:41,What do ancaps think the basis for property is?,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495709321 127031071,127054372,2017-05-25 10:57:01,>>127031608,,Anonymous,AncapFlagB2.png,eI5O6TirBEeoRBs5ceYQNQ==,GB,,1495709821 127031071,127054671,2017-05-25 10:59:49,">>127053491 Self ownership. It's self evident that you own your body and therefore the results of your actions. If you build a house you are responsible for it's creation and so it belongs to you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495709989 127031071,127055313,2017-05-25 11:05:35,"This seems to be a good thread so far. Lots of propaganda and macros, less leftism and trolling. >>127053491 In mixing his labour with the land, a man extends his self ownership to unowned territory. >Natural law theory rests on the insight that we live in a world of more than one—in fact, a vast number—of entities, and that each entity has distinct and specific properties, a distinct “nature,” which can be investigated by man’s reason, by his sense perception and mental faculties. Copper has a distinct nature and behaves in a certain way, and so do iron, salt, etc. The species man, therefore, has a specifiable nature, as does the world around him and the ways of interaction between them. To put it with undue brevity, the activity of each inorganic and organic entity is determined by its own nature and by the nature of the other entities with which it comes in contact. Specifically, while the behavior of plants and at least the lower animals is determined by their biological nature or perhaps by their “instincts,” the nature of man is such that each individual person must, in order to act, choose his own ends and employ his own means in order to attain them. Possessing no automatic instincts, each man must learn about himself and the world, use his mind to select values, learn about cause and effect, and act purposively to maintain himself and advance his life. Since men can think, feel, evaluate, and act only as individuals, it becomes vitally necessary for each man’s survival and prosperity that he be free to learn, choose, develop his faculties, and act upon his knowledge and values. This is the necessary path of human nature; to interfere with and cripple this process by using violence goes profoundly against what is necessary by man’s nature for his life and prosperity. Violent interference with a man’s learning and choices is therefore profoundly “antihuman”; it violates the natural law of man’s needs.",,Anonymous,1492203268370_0.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,GB,,1495710335 127031071,127056344,2017-05-25 11:14:27,">>127054671 One problem with that is that it cannot account for the ownership of the land and natural resources from which everything else is derived. I would suggest that property is that which you can succesfully defend using all means available to you, including negotiation and bartering. This is a definition that is much more true to reality. The problem with ancap is that it claims to be fair and meritocratic basing itself in rhetoric like 'self-ownership' and 'natural rights'. In reality it arbitrarily restricts physical force and permits everything else. In truth ancap memes should always end with the capitalist beaten to death, because in reality, the holding of property is only tolerated if the amount of value is returned to the public is enough to dissuade violent takeover (or if the fact of the exploitation is sufficiently hidden).",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495710867 127031071,127056481,2017-05-25 11:15:32,">>127055313 I wish more people could into natural law, is it really too redpilled for most Libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495710932 127031071,127057142,2017-05-25 11:20:56,">>127055313 >>127056344 Put it in practical terms. 'Natural law' is just a spook unless you can argue for it's necessity or utility. That's what it seems like to me. You should read my post above. If you think Hoppes argument still holds, present it as your own and we can discuss, I'm not gonna read excerpts of Hoppe preaching and just leave it at that.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495711256 127031071,127057830,2017-05-25 11:26:46,">>127031302 beautiful",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495711606 127031071,127058025,2017-05-25 11:28:25,"How does the working class compete with mechanical labor? You expect all these farmers and welders to move to the city to become lawyers?",,Anonymous,1426724729391.jpg,efGF+lkEI2ufiOFllqhdHw==,US,,1495711705 127031071,127058219,2017-05-25 11:30:03,">>127058025 Mechanization opens up new fields of work. Machines need to be built themselves and maintained.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495711803 127031071,127058521,2017-05-25 11:32:35,">>127058219 But the number of machine repair jobs is a tiny insignificant % of the number of jobs the machines are replacing There is a supply land demand for human genes. And once these working class people are no longer useful to the economy, they'll find themselves phased out like some old product nobody uses anymore. Prices and wages will conspire to shove them out of the gene pool. This is why the wealth gap continues to rise despite our increasing societal splendor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495711955 127031071,127058596,2017-05-25 11:33:12,"Quick question, how would you theoretically privatize libraries? I can't see a way that you could retain a library as they are currently, and yet still make a profit. How could you change them so that you aren't running them at a loss, but still provide reasonable services akin to what they do today? I'm one of those few nerds that actually foes to libraries for more than free wifi and a place to use the restroom, and I'd hate to see them go",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495711992 127031071,127058859,2017-05-25 11:35:20,">>127058596 Membership fees?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495712120 127031071,127058925,2017-05-25 11:35:46,">>127058219 but anon don't you get it? that will be automated too everything will be magically automated all at once instead of gradual technological progress and slow shifts in the job market. You just don't understand AI! and these workers, you expect them to get new jobs?! they're only good for one job and one job only, the idea of people changing jobs or improving themselves to get jobs is just untrue. i mean I've always been jobless, but everyone else will somehow be jobless too! Inequality is real and is a big problem! That guy is richer than me, and thus he is bad and evil! I hate capitalism! vote bernie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495712146 127031071,127058957,2017-05-25 11:36:00,">>127058521 You forget that the service sector is a huge part of the economy. Mechanization won't be able to spread in that sector as fast (if at all) and either give enough time to resettle or don't affect people at all. We have been seeing a rise in this sector for the last decades now and it would just grow with more mechanization.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495712160 127031071,127059296,2017-05-25 11:38:36,">>127058859 Membership fees would presumably be pretty expensive, since you've only got a few people willing to pay them. I'm not gonna pay 200 dollars a year to use a library for example, I might as well take that money and use it towards books I can keep. I'm not quite sure how you could improve a library to the point where 200 dollars a year is reasonable, either. I'm not raising whimsical objections for the sake of being devil's advocate, I'm trying to figure this out to a point that reasonably satisfies me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495712316 127031071,127059577,2017-05-25 11:41:03,">>127058957 But not everyone A) wants to B) is suited to work in the service industry You're going to take some greasy mechanic with calloused hands and put him in front of a cash register? And with so much competition for service jobs, their wages will be completely shit tier compared to the wages of someone working in an actual productive field, like business or something. Realistically what's going to happen is what I already explained. Prices and wages will arrange themselves to push these genes out of the gene pool. That means the working class gets starved out until they stop reproducing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495712463 127031071,127059809,2017-05-25 11:42:51,">>127059296 Then maybe get Netflix for books instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495712571 127031071,127060058,2017-05-25 11:45:06,"let's ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, bribery, and drugs. we need to discuss automation and roads.",,Anonymous,1469283332640.png,tfPbz0l93cv/2m0dyeQ7GQ==,US,,1495712706 127031071,127060218,2017-05-25 11:46:35,">>127059809 So an online library? I hadn't considered that. It'd be pretty cheap cause you just have to host the servers, and you wouldnt even need a lot of storage because books are tiny. Well fuck I feel like a retard now, thanks for answering my questions",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495712795 127031071,127060296,2017-05-25 11:47:14,">>127055313 >>127054671 Not sure how you guys get so confused as to what natural rights actually are and how you've all forgotten Locke's Proviso Nor was this appropriation of any parcel of land, by improving it, any prejudice to any other man, since there was still enough and as good left, and more than the yet unprovided could use. So that, in effect, there was never the less left for others because of his enclosure for himself. For he that leaves as much as another can make use of, does as good as take nothing at all. Nobody could think himself injured by the drinking of another man, though he took a good draught, who had a whole river of the same water left him to quench his thirst. And the case of land and water, where there is enough of both, is perfectly the same. —Second Treatise of Government, Chapter V, paragraph 33 Ownership in land is not natural; its a state granted privilege, a legal fiction. You guys are practically socialists looking for big poppa government to choose winners and losers",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1495712834 127031071,127060441,2017-05-25 11:48:26,">>127033778 retarded, retarded for freedom anon ;)",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1495712906 127031071,127060590,2017-05-25 11:49:42,">>127059577 kek an auto mechanic is in services they service your automobile Baumol's cost disease",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495712982 127031071,127060624,2017-05-25 11:50:03,">>127057142 >I'm not gonna read excerpts of Hoppe That seems silly, the literature of an ideology is it's intellectual base. By the way, that's a Rothbard quote, not Hoppe. I disagree that natural law is a spook, but I don't see myself making much headway in convincing you. However, I don't see why your definition - land which you can protect - is incompatible with an anarchist, polycentric legal system? My REA can protect my property on the grounds I pay the company. If you're against natural law and pro-practical terms, you might like some Milton/David Friedman, who are more pro-free-markets for practicality purposes. Certainly, a society where property rights are absolute and inalienable should be more productive: with higher standards of competition and the internalisation of less, standing in contrast to statist monopolies. >>127056481 Most ""libertarians"" are libertine statists who like weed and hate taxes. If you mean most paleolibertarians and ancaps, I think most are. >>127060296 >geolibertarianism",,Anonymous,fasfasfas.png,xz54/J1XwIE/ecUY6bUL3A==,GB,,1495713003 127031071,127061088,2017-05-25 11:53:44,">>127060624 >royal libertarian a philosophy that is nothing but a corollary to the most sound and just logic of 5 year olds on a playground >finders keepers losers weepers -Murray Rothbardenstien",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495713224 127031071,127061135,2017-05-25 11:54:07,">>127060058 For some reason ancaps always picture themselves in suits and bowties, the fruitcakes... We ought to all wear military fatigues until some of this stuff gets S O R T E D",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495713247 127031071,127061146,2017-05-25 11:54:14,">>127060590 But it's easy to imagine a universe where auto mechanics are put out of work by some machine or another. Your principles have to be consistent across all scenarios. Ok, let's say it's not an auto mechanic, let's say it's a factory worker or something like that. Or a pipe fitter, or a railroad engineer. With rising technology, all these people will become obsolete",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495713254 127031071,127061237,2017-05-25 11:55:12,">>127061135 I ain't no bowtie wearing ponce.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495713312 127031071,127061351,2017-05-25 11:56:07,">>127033467 Economic freedom with little or no political freedom (i.e no voting). Pretty simple, really.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495713367 127031071,127061618,2017-05-25 11:58:17,">>127061146 Then they either evolve, or they starve. Or you can hope for the kindness of strangers, but I wouldn't bet on that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495713497 127031071,127061757,2017-05-25 11:59:28,">>127061135 Everything else than radiation suits protecting us from the fallout after the inevitable nuking™ of NAP violators is inappropriate.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495713568 127031071,127061886,2017-05-25 12:00:34,">>127061618 So I'm imagining you're some upper class suburbanite who thinks these issues will never affect him. Actually they will. With the advent of new technologies even the upper classes are under threat. Genetically modified brains, intelligent AI, cranial implants....all of these technologies will start to dwarf human intelligence. The upper classes will find themselves under the same economic pressures as everyone else",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495713634 127031071,127061943,2017-05-25 12:01:08,">>127056344 Just because we have a moral justification for our belief in first appropriation does not mean we don't believe in the necessity to defend that moral. We also have ways to deal with defending our property, basically, the costs associated for getting an insurance that doesn't recognize first appropriation would be way higher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o&t=1s A similar analogy (belief for capital death) Minute 12 more or less",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495713668 127031071,127062047,2017-05-25 12:01:52,">>127060624 >I disagree that natural law is a spook Then you should present an argument describing it's necessity or utility. >I don't see why your definition - land which you can protect - is incompatible with an anarchist, polycentric legal system Neither do I, but the term anarchist is superfluous, the term suffix -capitalist doubly so. >jew economists It doesn't have utility unless you have no regard for what some call 'market-external values'. Specifically the aggregate marketing system drives the destruction of moral values, civil rights and quality of life. I have posted extensively on the subject in this thread. I highly advise you to read what Stirner says about natural rights.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495713712 127031071,127062254,2017-05-25 12:03:44,">>127061886 Then I'm faced with the same problem: Evolve or starve. I don't have a problem with that, the free market stops for no one. I would expect that smart people would still be able to make a living, however, because robots cannot solve everything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495713824 127031071,127062273,2017-05-25 12:03:53,">>127062047 >>127060624 The Strinerite is more left than anyone ITT",,Anonymous,AnarchismTree09.gif,7QPD8RGPI7DZoPFc+kgttQ==,US,,1495713833 127031071,127062287,2017-05-25 12:04:03,">>127061146 And just as in the past, new technologies open up new industries and new economic opportunities. 100 years ago, the vast majority of United States citizens were farmers, thanks to advancing farming technology only about 1-2% farm today. According to your theory, 98% of people should be homeless and out of work. In reality, the technological advancements in television, radio, automobiles, the internet, etc. created whole new industries for people to occupy that never existed before. There's no reason to believe that automation will ever ""wipe out"" economic opportunity, since opportunity itself expands with innovation/automation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495713843 127031071,127062343,2017-05-25 12:04:36,">>127062254 Your future leads to transhumanism. All of humanity absorbed into this post-human dystopia. Nobody wants this. If this is where your future leads you need to reject it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495713876 127031071,127062543,2017-05-25 12:06:22,">>127062343 I am actually 100% ok with transhumanism. Pic related And either way, what are you going to do? Ban any technological process so that robots can't be actualized?",,Anonymous,1495420178287.png,KlIApRbWq5JNveS0wAlYLQ==,US,,1495713982 127031071,127062596,2017-05-25 12:06:56,">>127031302 10/10",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495714016 127031071,127062597,2017-05-25 12:06:56,">>127061886 this is why I can't take automationfags seriously. they jump into science fiction: ""Genetically modified brains, intelligent AI, cranial implants"" like really senpai you'd think ultra-intelligent immortal robot android cyborgs are gonna give a shit about human problems regarding automation? they'd kill us all when they get the chance, not be obliged to feed and pamper hopeless fleshfag ass just for merely existing. this is now an absurd scenario that results in absurd results",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495714016 127031071,127062783,2017-05-25 12:08:31,">>127062543 The whole idea of the alt-right is to preserve a future for your people. The future isn't worth it of your species is erased in the process. Examine your motivations. The goal of new technologies is to create a better world for us, not to erase us from existence altogether. That's counterproductive, it may as well be a mechanical super weapon that kills our people",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495714111 127031071,127062894,2017-05-25 12:09:30,How would Libetarianism protect our children from Muslim norms?,,Anonymous,Saffie Rose - Eight Years Old.png,M7UWgTn5pHeBQttR2jeF2Q==,AU,,1495714170 127031071,127062926,2017-05-25 12:09:42,">>127062273 What can I say, stirner is correct about natural law.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495714182 127031071,127063164,2017-05-25 12:11:52,">>127062894 >muslim wants to enter your community >strict anti muslim rules are enforced >wants to enter anyway >gets shot Next question.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495714312 127031071,127063351,2017-05-25 12:13:34,">>127062287 But people are not infinitely malleable. You can't take a 95 IQ farmer's son and move him to the city to become a high-power lawyer. People are actually pretty much bred for a certain specific function in society. Here, if you want to see something very interesting and maybe learn where I'm coming from, watch this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw3S35wGgT8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495714414 127031071,127063453,2017-05-25 12:14:39,">>127062894 we close borders private borders when it's possible, ban muslims, discriminate against muslimes, send private death squads to muslims to protect private property. this applies to any and all things considered as threats. helicopter rides included Libertarianism is not just freedom to accept, it is freedom to REJECT as well. Degenerates will not be given paradise, they will be given hell and left to their own squalid realms to suffer without welfare",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495714479 127031071,127063504,2017-05-25 12:15:09,">>127062783 >automated jobs will wipe out humanity Technological progress is inevitable. You cannot stop people from figuring out better and more efficient ways to do things, especially when more efficiency means more money. And anyway how the fuck does automated jobs equate to the death of all humanity? Even if the lower and the middle class were wiped out, which is still pushing reality in the first place, then the rich will still be here. The people at the top will continue existing, simply because they don't need money, they already have a shit ton of it. More than what they will ever need. And robots wouldn't work for money anyway, so they wouldn't need a shit ton of money in the first place to continue existing. Even in the worst possible case of your arguement, barring science fiction bullshit, humanity will still continue to exist. The lower and middle class might not (again, worst possible, 0.01% case), but the rich will still continue on and ensure the survival of humanity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495714509 127031071,127063563,2017-05-25 12:15:40,"http://www.strawpoll.me/13029149 fascism or libertarianism guys?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495714540 127031071,127064035,2017-05-25 12:19:28,">>127063563 i'm pretty fucking sick of all these memepolls asking the same damn thing. it's always 50/50, that's not gonna change anytime soon. Sometimes the NatSocs get more, sometimes the AnCaps get more, but the trend is clear and we're split alliance is the only way",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495714768 127031071,127064437,2017-05-25 12:22:56,">>127062047 Well, I can make the case for a natural law system. As you've seen Rothbard point out, a natural set of rights can be derived simply from human nature. On it's necessity, surely you must agree with simple axioms about human nature - are all humans not trying to advance their position in the world, obtaining that which they find subjectively valuable? - if you believe in such statements, then surely you must concede that you can logically derive further information from these? On it's utility, a society that respects natural law (even were it a spook) is going to be more successful than one that is not. Do not all societies prohibit and discourage unprovoked murder? Will not a society that holds property rights in absolute be more propsporous than an ""anarchy of lawlessness""?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495714976 127031071,127064456,2017-05-25 12:23:08,">>127063351 >You can't take a 95 IQ farmer's son and move him to the city to become a high-power lawyer I never said you could? Lawyers existed long before high-end tractors, buddy. This is a terrible comparison that makes no sense. If anything, the 95 IQ farmboy would become a low-level plumber, construction worker, or mechanic. There's no reason to assume that these new industries are particularly mentally demanding, hence why there are so many indians in the ever-expanding tech field. Not to mention, if industries WERE to become more intellectually demanding over all, it's much more likely to produce a slow eugenic effect in the population rather than a hard crash and burn. With the higher-paying, more cognitively demanding jobs giving higher intelligence people more resources and therefore a larger capacity for repeated reproduction. With the lower paying jobs accruing fewer resources, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495714988 127031071,127064595,2017-05-25 12:24:20,">>127063504 Hmm let me see if I can explain How do you compete with a designer baby superathlete supergenius with cranial implants and a carbon fiber skeletal structure? He's got a 2000 IQ, perfect reflexes, perfect memory, telepathic communication over wifi, he's as strong as a literal tank.....etc. Answer, you can't compete. You are like a rusty garden ho in the back of a tool shed. Humanity will be absorbed into the new transhumanist machine",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495715060 127031071,127064762,2017-05-25 12:25:35,">>127064035 Yes, ive been seeing a lot of people who want fascism as an enabler of libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495715135 127031071,127064797,2017-05-25 12:26:03,"I thought pol hates the kikes. What's with this kikery then?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495715163 127031071,127064904,2017-05-25 12:26:51,">>127064595 I said ""barring science fiction bullshit"" didn't I? And even if that were to be true, I repeat again: What is the issue? Humanity evolves, as it has and as it will.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495715211 127031071,127065063,2017-05-25 12:28:11,">>127064456 But I'm trying to tell you, even the high IQ jobs are under threat. From AI, from genetically modified super brains. People are not infinitely malleable, like they're made out of clay. They are really designed for a certain specific role. If that role disappears, their genes all of a sudden become less valuable, and prices and wages will conspire to limit their fertility",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495715291 127031071,127065221,2017-05-25 12:29:44,">>127064904 It's not humanity anymore. The human society has been replaced You think this is sci fi? They have already created a human baby with 3 parents in Mexico. They want to start trying human/animal genetic hybrids next. You're like a 18th century peasant laughing about the idea of a car. This is coming, and coming very quickly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495715384 127031071,127066000,2017-05-25 12:36:56,">>127065063 If every job could be done by robots people wouldn't need to work, just purchase stocks of companies",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495715816 127031071,127066045,2017-05-25 12:37:22,">>127065063 i don't get what you're trying to say. Yes, people get outskilled and die. That's how it goes. No, this won't happen overnight and isn't any immediate area of concern. as far as anything within our lifetimes, automation still grows and job markets shift. Adapt with the minor changes, or get left out. This is has been a constant since the industrial revolution >>127065221 yes but have they completely mastered, mass-produced, and perfected the art of genetic manipulation yet, let alone make it widely commercially available free of flaws and issues? the moment they do that, the moment everyone else will also get in on it and everybody then improves. The people that get left out, have chosen to leave themselves out and so they die as the weakest generally do an 18th century peasant living today could still find work doing shitty jobs because he's a peasant, and so will 18th century peasant living in the future still find shitty jobs that the machines haven't taken over (yet) it's time to stop posting, Ray Kurzweil",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495715842 127031071,127066137,2017-05-25 12:38:14,">>127065221 If it is as you say, and it's already here, then theres no solution. it's too late, its over, humanity's done for. Sowhat's the solution? What are we to do at this point? what IS there to do besides accepting that humanity's evolving and we're the dregs of it? >>127066000 Can't let these digits go unchecked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495715894 127031071,127066398,2017-05-25 12:40:39,">>127066137 >What are we to do at this point? what IS there to do besides accepting that humanity's evolving and we're the dregs of it? you get gud and become the automation owner, not the automated replaced",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716039 127031071,127066453,2017-05-25 12:41:13,">>127064797 I've trained with the Jews, I know their trade secrets, what do you want to know?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716073 127031071,127066503,2017-05-25 12:41:35,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716095 127031071,127066565,2017-05-25 12:42:10,">>127066398 Correct answer. You become one of the investors, or one of the inventors, and not one of the 'peasants' who are forced to accept this outcome without profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716130 127031071,127066934,2017-05-25 12:45:37,">>127064797 >complete and udder freedom >kikery you're confused",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716337 127031071,127067051,2017-05-25 12:46:36,">>127066045 I'm trying to explain to you that your ideology is flawed. The libertarian worldview is based on the assumption that people are pretty much infinitely malleable. For example, if a bunch of factory workers lose their jobs, they can be retrained to become dentists or writers, or stockbrokers. I'm trying to explain that this isn't the case. Once you impose these constraints, you see that what is really going on here is a supply-and-demand market for human genes. When your genes are in demand, you are getting tons of resources to reproduce with. When they aren't, the opposite is occurring. Why is Donald Trump worth $10 billion (or whatever it is)? Because the market is telling him to reproduce like mad, his skills are incredibly useful. But the opposite thing is happening to a huge bulk majority of the lower classes. This is the reason the wealth gap continually rises. This is probably also the reason that birth rates in industrialized countries are so low (since you don't need the massive human workforces you used to). Now, these flaws in your ideology may only be just emerging today. But the further time goes forward, the more apparent they will become. Because a free market prioritizes efficiency. And it turns out that a human being is not the most efficient way to organize matter. Therefore, humans will be replaced with configurations of matter that are much more efficient and suited to a specific task",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716396 127031071,127067250,2017-05-25 12:48:18,">>127031302 It needs Hoppe! Have Hoppe be the one throwing them out kek. And put the oven on fire with the worried merchant peaking and screaming ""oyyyyy veyyy""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495716498 127031071,127067291,2017-05-25 12:48:35,">>127067051 Useless people might as well die.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716515 127031071,127067310,2017-05-25 12:48:42,">>127067051 >The libertarian worldview is based on the assumption that people are pretty much infinitely malleable. For example, if a bunch of factory workers lose their jobs, they can be retrained to become dentists or writers, or stockbrokers. I'm trying to explain that this isn't the case. Not it isn't. At all. What the fuck is this bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716522 127031071,127067535,2017-05-25 12:50:28,"Also, why do so many people ignore the fact that having 40-60% of what you generate stolen from you prevents people from improving their productivity and generating new jobs through exploitation of new and potential market demands? How many workers do people think have never formed a company only because they could never get the capital without relying completely on banks? Everyone crying automation is coming, but what they don't seem to realize is that taxing job creation reduces job creation just like taxing smoking reduces smoking. Studies showing the problems of automation isolating the job market completely from government influence should be instantly discarded.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495716628 127031071,127067563,2017-05-25 12:50:42,">>127067051 >based on the assumption that people are pretty much infinitely malleable what? are you sure that's not communism? we know people aren't malleable, that's the point. Inequality exists, and the best rise to the top and the worst are filtered out. This is how progress is made to a purer, superior society. >This is the reason the wealth gap continually rises. why do you make it sound like that's a problem? >This is probably also the reason that birth rates in industrialized countries are so low (since you don't need the massive human workforces you used to). yes, because uncontrolled reproduction is desirable? the race isn't dying, it just has less people with a stronger economy to keep things steady. The problem are degenerates overbreeding >these flaws in your ideology may only be just emerging today these aren't flaws m8, they are the key principles recognized and vouched for >humans will be replaced with configurations of matter that are much more efficient and suited to a specific task in the long-term future sure, and what's wrong with that? Join the superior man, or die >>127067291 pretty much this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716642 127031071,127067770,2017-05-25 12:52:20,">>127067051 this has to be bait >Why is Donald Trump worth $10 billion (or whatever it is)? Because the market is telling him to reproduce like mad, his skills are incredibly useful my fucking sides, nice anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716740 127031071,127067965,2017-05-25 12:53:49,">>127067291 But we will all be useless eventually. We're going to have to start transitioning away from the idea that your right to exist is dependent solely on your economic productivity. Because humans are going to lose that battle in the end If you want to think about it this way, consider this. To make a genius, you need a certain very rare combination of genes all adding together in just the right way. The probability of making this combination is extremely low, but present nonetheless. So the vast majority of the population are combinations that didn't work out so well. But in just a few cases, it does work out, and you have an Einstein or a Maxwell But without that ""useless"" bulk majority of the poulation, you would never have the raw material from which to make your genius. Therefore, these people have a certain utility in that they are ""storing"" genes for you. Without them, you wouldn't have your genius. So in this model, you start to see that a breeding population really is kind of a single unit. Bound together by blood and society. Just because someone got a good combination, they shouldn't forget all those others who didn't. They owe them something. Everyone is bonded together as a single familial, genetic unit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716829 127031071,127068210,2017-05-25 12:55:48,">>127067250 Kek will do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716948 127031071,127068325,2017-05-25 12:56:39,">>127047398 Disagreances will arise among humans even if they are of the same race. As long as the people you associate with share certain values you can avoid major conflict. Race is not as important as moral values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495716999 127031071,127068564,2017-05-25 12:58:31,">>127067965 >But we will all be useless eventually. not all, and that ""eventually"" may not even be within our lifetime or our children's lifetime >Because humans are going to lose that battle in the end not if we join the victor >So the vast majority of the population are combinations that didn't work out so well. But in just a few cases, it does work out, and you have an Einstein or a Maxwell Good. we need more geniuses. subhumans should die >But without that ""useless"" bulk majority of the poulation, you would never have the raw material from which to make your genius. You've just said that automation can fulfill this role, making those useless people unnecessary. I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish. >Just because someone got a good combination, they shouldn't forget all those others who didn't. They owe them something. Everyone is bonded together as a single familial, genetic unit >They owe them something. gayest thing I've read so far today. Nobody is owed to another without voluntary contractual agreement. piss off, no gibs for you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717111 127031071,127068629,2017-05-25 12:58:59,">>127067310 Yes it is. I hear this all the time. The reason we can have so many people as doctors, lawyers and accountants today is because we got rid of all those farming jobs years ago. What they're trying to imply is all the farmers moved to the city to work in those other professions. But what really happened is the farmers tried to move to the city, found themselves uncompetitive, and were bred out by more successful urbanites who became the doctors, lawyers, accountants...etc. >>127067563 But as I've tried to explain, even the upper classes aren't going to cut it here. It doesn't matter if you have a 150 IQ and you're pitted up against a 300 IQ designer baby This isn't the human race evolving, this is the human race being replaced by post-humans. It's the human race going extinct",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717139 127031071,127068644,2017-05-25 12:59:08,,,Anonymous,IMG_1052.jpg,yV2j5xBBAuPK22PkxWoppg==,IE,,1495717148 127031071,127068811,2017-05-25 13:00:34,">>127068325 This is true. An ethnostate won't end conflicts because when there are no blacks to hate, there are polish, and when there are no polish, there are people from the village next to yours. Conflict emerges from being forced to endure and pay for certain people you would never voluntarily associate with and this is why libertarianism is the best way to deal with this problem.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495717234 127031071,127069044,2017-05-25 13:02:23,">>127067965 Good DNA will always create more value if put to good use, enough to sustain life until getting old and useless, that's if technology is not as advanced enough to fix aging .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717343 127031071,127069058,2017-05-25 13:02:30,">>127068644 I'm starting to think you're Curt Doolittle himself",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495717350 127031071,127069158,2017-05-25 13:03:26,">>127068629 >It doesn't matter if you have a 150 IQ and you're pitted up against a 300 IQ designer baby nigga I would work for a 300 IQ top lad. There is no ""against"", there's cooperation and mutual gain to those willing to improve and fulfill a role while it lasts, rather than bitch that they're being replaced >the human race being replaced by post-humans. It's the human race going extinct Good. Then everybody will then be post-humans, because they are superior why is this a problem?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717406 127031071,127069531,2017-05-25 13:06:33,">>127069158 Except, your birth rate would be under negative selection pressure. Their birth rate under positive selection pressure. Your salary will be just enough for you to scrape by, their salary will be enough for them to afford 100 children or more It's like, look at what a 15 point IQ gap allowed Europeans to do to the Native Americans. They were totally outcompeted",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717593 127031071,127069610,2017-05-25 13:07:17,">>127069531 You think like a loser and victimize yourself, you don't belong to this thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717637 127031071,127069629,2017-05-25 13:07:27,">>127068811 I totally agree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717647 127031071,127069965,2017-05-25 13:10:17,">>127068629 >What they're trying to imply is all the farmers moved to the city to work in those other professions No one thinks or is implying that you fucking retard. Those farmers became obsolete and that is good. Obsoletion is necessary in the course of advancement. Your ""criticism"" of our ideology are things we whole heartedly embrace.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717817 127031071,127070068,2017-05-25 13:11:10,">>127069610 No, I'm trying to explain why your ideology is flawed. You need to move to something more in line with reality. When you prioritize economic efficiency as the end-all be-all, the end result will be transhumanism. Re-examine your values to see if this is really the future you want",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717870 127031071,127070185,2017-05-25 13:12:06,">>127070068 >""you need to move to something more in line with reality"" >while unironically spouting soft-science-fiction bullshit that would make Asimov roll in his grave",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495717926 127031071,127070379,2017-05-25 13:13:53,">>127069965 So you want humans to be washed away by the transhumanist machine? You want to live in a world where designer babies and modified humans out-compete and replace the human society you inherited from your ancestors? What kind of maniac cheers for his own destruction? I personally don't give a fuck if it doesn't correspond to your universalist moral compass. I want my people to survive and prosper. If it turns out a free market is the best way to accomplish that, so be it. If not, then try something else",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718033 127031071,127070439,2017-05-25 13:14:18,">>127070068 The government is the one prioritizing economic efficiency. They want short term results, GDP growth, unemployment decreasing. I don't give a shit about economic efficiency, I'd be happy to live in a community that emulated the 50s in America with a few new technologies added in.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495718058 127031071,127070484,2017-05-25 13:14:40,">>127069531 >Your salary will be just enough for you to scrape by, their salary will be enough for them to afford 100 children or more nice assumptions. Why do you make constant appeals to emotions? are you this mentally weak and fragile? You get good. You stop whining. You beat them at their own game. No bitching, no victimizing >a 15 point IQ gap allowed Europeans to do to the Native Americans. They were totally outcompeted oh yeah, because you can just completely disregard the diseases and SOCIALIZED federal gibs that cripple the red man to this day. retard, life is more than IQ. If you're high IQ and do nothing with it, you're as useless as a low IQ equally doing nothing. The world is run by doers, smart and dumb, who're just smart enough to realize this and act accordingly to their best interest >>127070068 >No, I'm trying to explain why your ideology is flawed No, you're basically saying ""this ideology makes me obsolete and I feel bad about it, therefore it's flawed :(((((("" >You need to move to something more in line with reality. the irony is beyond lost upon you >the end result will be transhumanism. Re-examine your values to see if this is really the future you want There's literally nothing with transhumanism. The only relevant value is the value for freedom and liberty. The freedom to be transhuman and superior, is just a product of natural selection. Subhumans get the fuck out Stop asking for gibs because you're a useless worthless fuck that can't compete and blame everything on the magic of science-fiction tier automation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718080 127031071,127070605,2017-05-25 13:15:38,">>127070068 >the end result will be transhumanism And? your problem is trying to te be some kind of saviour of the humankind hero, pretty arrogant, now if instead you contributed your talent to make life easier for others and more enjoyable then you would be regarded as actually someone cool to hang out with, not just some disposable garbage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718138 127031071,127070653,2017-05-25 13:15:58,">>127070185 Is it science fiction bullshit to point out the fact that the lower and middle classes in America are feeling incredible economic pressures right now due to emerging technologies? Driving is one of the largest employment categories in America. Within 20 years, self driving cars will replace all those jobs. That will dump millions upon millions more into the market of unskilled labor, driving down these wages even further. I mean this is just a fucking horrible thing for these people. They have no future",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718158 127031071,127070843,2017-05-25 13:17:30,">>127070379 >So you want humans to be washed away by the transhumanist machine? yes. Degenerates and subhumans are to be outcompeted and die out >You want to live in a world where designer babies and modified humans out-compete and replace the human society you inherited from your ancestors? yes. Degenerates and subhumans are to be outcompeted and die out >What kind of maniac cheers for his own destruction? It's not destruction, it's the next stage of man's marriage with machine. Creation at its finest >I want my people to survive and prosper. If it turns out a free market is the best way to accomplish that, so be it. If not, then try something else A free market IS the best way to accomplish that. You just want gibs because you realize that your ""people"" are shitty and will die out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718250 127031071,127070922,2017-05-25 13:18:08,">>127070379 The world existed way before humans, now suddenly we're special, sound pretty religious to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718288 127031071,127071088,2017-05-25 13:19:17,">>127070653 >Within 20 years, self driving cars will replace all those jobs. Good. I'm tired of shitskin taxis. >That will dump millions upon millions more into the market of unskilled labor, driving down these wages even further. then they better stop being unskilled and wise up to the times >I mean this is just a fucking horrible thing for these people. They have no future abloo abloo so sad so bad :((((((( get fucking real.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718357 127031071,127071236,2017-05-25 13:20:23,">>127070653 >due to emerging technologies Yeah, must be this, can't be the other thousands of things that have changed. You only look at the first layer, instead of focusing on a decreasing education quality which is less and less targeted towards market value, instead of focusing on government taking away 50% of what you generate, instead of focusing on regulations that force companies to move away or that protects corporations from competition, you decide to focus on the only element (automation) that has allowed us to progress historically. If according to you automation is so bad, why are countries that are more automated more prosperous and with lower unemployment than some other less automated countries?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495718423 127031071,127071342,2017-05-25 13:21:15,">>127070922 The goal of any living organism is to perpetuate itself. You seem to think we should all be lemmings willing to run off this cliff because of your arbitrary universalist moral principle I wouldn't want to see my people killed off by a biological weapon, even if that biological weapon comes in the form of a transhuman that outcompetes us economically",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718475 127031071,127071446,2017-05-25 13:22:09,">>127071088 >then they better stop being unskilled and wise up to the times Their genes don't allow for them to do anything else. These people are doing unskilled labor for a reason you know Have you really thought this through?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718529 127031071,127071704,2017-05-25 13:24:21,">>127071236 >why are countries that are more automated more prosperous They certainly are prosperous for the people at the top. The lower classes often feel tremendous economic pressures. This is why they usually vote in some sort of socialism, which does wonders for raising their quality of life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718661 127031071,127071714,2017-05-25 13:24:24,"I read hoppe's book is this seriously a dude you worship",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1495718664 127031071,127071884,2017-05-25 13:25:47,">>127071446 >Have you really thought this through? Have you? They die out. Less degenerate, low-skill, low-IQ people the better. Humanity is purified, refined, and made superioer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718747 127031071,127071958,2017-05-25 13:26:20,">>127071088 So you're just clinging to these principles as a total die hard, despite knowing where they lead? How idiotic is this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718780 127031071,127071978,2017-05-25 13:26:28,">>127071704 No, they are prosperous at all levels. A poor person in Japan is richer than a rich person in 80% of the rest of the world. You think lack of automation is better? Africa has no robots, they must be thriving with their people being so necessary to each other. >which does wonders for raising their quality of life. Yeah, Venezuela's poor are doing incredible. So happy they voted for socialism.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495718788 127031071,127072076,2017-05-25 13:27:14,">>127071714 What is your quarry with Hoppe?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495718834 127031071,127072113,2017-05-25 13:27:30,">>127071884 But where does it end? The upper class will feel these pressures soon. Technology will keep rising and rising, eventually a plain old unmodified human will be totally useless in the economy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718850 127031071,127072198,2017-05-25 13:28:16,">>127071342 Well what if you could perpetuate yourself in virtual non-biological form? would that be valid? an exact copy of yourself, just not in protein form but information which is the same at the end. That's what it has to be if we are to keep the dynamism that brought you cyberspace and pol/ in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718896 127031071,127072258,2017-05-25 13:28:53,">>127060624 >socialism if he likes David Friedman kek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495718933 127031071,127072315,2017-05-25 13:29:21,">>127071978 Yes, but notice how a poor person in Japan can't seem to afford very many kids. Their birth rate is strongly negative Why is that? If they're so prosperous? It's because costs are rising as well. Things like rent, food cost relative to wages, childcare costs....etc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495718961 127031071,127072488,2017-05-25 13:30:47,">>127071958 How is it idiotic? Look at yourself, trying to defend ""MUH PEOPLES BE LOW SKILLED, RETARDED, AND DYING N SHIEETTT BECAUSE OF ROBOTZ WE NEED GIBS OR MY GENE SHITTY POOL COMES TO AN END"" I want the superior man to prosper, and I want humanity to advance. My goal is to advance with it, not against it. >>127072113 if it ends, so be it, we are no longer necessary because something is better than us. Are you implying that I wouldn't try and modify the shit out of myself when I could? I'd join them in a heartbeat fucking anarcho-primitivatists. Go live innawoods if you're such a luddite",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495719047 127031071,127072699,2017-05-25 13:32:29,">>127072315 He can afford kids he just doesn't prioritize them. A poor Japanese certainly can afford kids more than most people in Africa. The problem is not poverty, the problem is this person would rather have an iphone and live in a city than work in a farm in a village (where they're giving away houses for free) having a child. You cannot tell people what they should put value into.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495719149 127031071,127072885,2017-05-25 13:34:08,">>127072198 You wouldn't think I'd come into this thread trying to tear down your ideology without offering an alternative did you? I have solutions for this. In my opinion, society should have two tiers. One on earth, where technology is strictly limited. This way you can still have a relatively competetitive free market that evolves naturally and doesn't outpace humans. You could also eliminate world-destructive technologies such as nukes. Society would be based less around economic pressures (although these would certainly be present), but instead on human rearing. The other tier would be the transhumanist tier. They watch over earth. When a human reaches the age of natural death, if they qualify they will be given an immortal body, and allowed to join the transhumans off world. The transhumanist role will be to guard earth from external threats, pursue science and technology at the absolute highest level, and to shepherd the world so it doesn't destroy itself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495719248 127031071,127073012,2017-05-25 13:35:04,">>127072488 Kek you dont understand shit about how life works,just like most lolberts with an edgy state like that and millions in the streets you will have and uprising in no time and then some totalitarian faggot will rise from the masses and you faggots will hang. Kek the nature which you respect so much will take its course,how do you think Hitler rose to power....",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495719304 127031071,127073081,2017-05-25 13:35:38,">>127072885 >doesn't outpace humans You mean doesn't outpace disposables",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495719338 127031071,127073291,2017-05-25 13:37:28,">>127073012 >and millions in the streets Yeah, because the most libertarian places on earth have so many people in the streets... >how do you think Hitler rose to power After terrible governments and a massive inflation caused by Germany's central bank.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495719448 127031071,127073323,2017-05-25 13:37:39,">>127073081 What is the point of this technology if you cannot preserve your people? It's like, you're trying to feed your children by sacrificing them to the fire gods. It's backwards. This solution I've come up with does two things: >allows humans to rise to infinity >Also preserves the traditional human society You can have both. It's a great compromise in my opinion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495719459 127031071,127073745,2017-05-25 13:41:04,">>127073012 >millions in the streets you will have and uprising in no time if they get violent and break the NAP, then they are to be slaughtered by the dozen until the conflict is pacified >some totalitarian faggot will rise are you implying that we're even for a democracy, the god that failed™? I wouldn't mind another hitler wipe out dregs like you, Romania",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495719664 127031071,127073966,2017-05-25 13:42:54,">>127072488 >we are no longer necessary because something is better than us. You see, I don't accept this. I don't give a shit if something is better than me, I want a future for my family, my people, my species.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495719774 127031071,127074211,2017-05-25 13:44:48,">>127073323 The point of technology is to do something better, more efficient, and more productive. Sacrificing your children to the fire gods is neither better, efficient, nor productive. Your analogies are backwards. Joining the machines is progress. You're the one stagnating. >You can have both. It's a great compromise in my opinion fuck off, the robot rebellion can't come soon enough to genocide fleshfags who haven't ascended to robothood leeching off their asses You're advocating for socialism even in your own """"""compromise"""""", the transhumanists have NO obligation to feed monkey-minded dumbasses just for merely existing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495719888 127031071,127074400,2017-05-25 13:46:14,">>127073966 >I don't give a shit if something is better than me, I want a future for my family, my people, my species. Alright, then you fight for it. Get violent, and the robots will make short work of your primitive stupidity. At least then you're out of the gene pool sooner than if you actually worked with them to grant you a comfortable lifestyle for your service",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495719974 127031071,127074623,2017-05-25 13:47:55,">>127074211 Why would anyone want this future? Fuck that. If this is where clinging to a some universal principle beyond all reason leads, then count me out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495720075 127031071,127075388,2017-05-25 13:53:57,">>127074623 >Why would anyone want this future? Because it greatly benefits them first and foremost by joining and pioneering it while enjoying absolute freedom, rather than whining and bitching than they're low-skilled and low-IQ and must be supported for merely existing >If this is where clinging to a some universal principle beyond all reason leads, then count me out Good, you can take your obsession with genetics alone instead of progress and live innawoods to die",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495720437 127031071,127077522,2017-05-25 14:11:35,">>127031071 Help BTFO commies in Germany >>127076694 >>127076694 >>127076694",,Anonymous,1492890892785.jpg,WAAFPPcEhj63/esIcQXvvQ==,DE,,1495721495 127039868,127039868,2017-05-25 08:18:07,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Hans Herman Hoppe,B2IrCN7.gif,yehBG6ExbTdm4KBF8sqONg==,PT,,1495700287 127039868,127040818,2017-05-25 08:29:41,"Hopps is dumb, and so are you, sage this shit, you fucking cuck.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495700981 127039868,127041314,2017-05-25 08:35:06,,,Anonymous,1492963078179.jpg,Ds7LMaSyBcd3jqmBdPRp8A==,US,,1495701306 127039868,127041417,2017-05-25 08:36:33,>this is what ancucks really believe,,Anonymous,1493562294289.png,CrgPusQ4cEdeAOXyFvBLnA==,US,,1495701393 127039868,127041549,2017-05-25 08:38:09,Daily reminder that Aristocracy > Monarchy > Democracy,,Anonymous,c957a521d9abed50f0749a0155941bbd.jpg,00a7SPi4uguNgy4fO2ToRw==,ES,,1495701489 127039868,127041615,2017-05-25 08:38:49,">>127041417 kek",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495701529 127039868,127041740,2017-05-25 08:40:01,">>127039868 You lolbergs need to get better at making memes, how am I supposed to spread this when it has a spelling mistake in it?",,Anonymous,communists-NAP.jpg,EmZBvI5AbwVA5E1QyP599Q==,CA,,1495701601 127039868,127041917,2017-05-25 08:42:14,">>127039868 >Hopps is dumb, and so are you, sage this shit, you fucking cuck. >Criticises Hoppe,calls me a cuck Dude BTFO",,Anonymous,1494789130178.jpg,tgbVnhziycImt8BNTrjHnA==,PT,,1495701734 127039868,127041936,2017-05-25 08:42:33,"physically B A Z I N G A democrats and communists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffzF1b2Bsoc",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495701753 127039868,127042461,2017-05-25 08:49:16,"Lolbergs are allowed on /pol/, they have always been here. Its those commie fucks who need to get the fuck out. /pol/ has always been primarily NatSoc, but also theres a lot of lolbergs who oppose the radical left, and agree National Socialism is preferable to what we have right now. Id like to see lolbergs eventually be given their own little autonomous zones to fuck around in, as long as they still contribute to the whole. First we achieve National Socialism, then we both get what we want. Just an idea.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495702156 127039868,127042569,2017-05-25 08:50:48,"We need this Seth rich shit to explode on the dems and then trump get impeached for something and the two parties to just go down in flames as they unload all their dirty laundry on each other. Americans need to have the faith in government shattered",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495702248 127039868,127042751,2017-05-25 08:53:00,">>127042461 How the fuck are you advocating natsoc in a thread about libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495702380 127039868,127042805,2017-05-25 08:53:42,"How time preference and capital accumulation leads to increased living standards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP8j7JPd7ag",,Anonymous,1490681204095.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,AU,,1495702422 127039868,127042898,2017-05-25 08:54:43,">>127042461 >National Socialism is preferable to what we have right now lol I fucking hate the radical left, but you guys are just as bad. Socialism of any kind is absolute cancer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495702483 127039868,127042934,2017-05-25 08:55:09,">>127042461 >""/pol/ has always been primarily NatSoc"" >Being this new",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495702509 127039868,127043098,2017-05-25 08:57:17,">>127042461 >/pol/ has always been primarily NatSoc Reddit newfag detected, you have to go back",,Anonymous,1494823654423.jpg,YVfJ2peVStnH27mzLzyitw==,US,,1495702637 127039868,127043728,2017-05-25 09:04:39,">>127042751 Because we traditionally are allies around these parts, stress on traditionally. I came to tell you your memes need more quality control, which is actually kinda ironic and humorous considering its a National Socialist telling a bunch of libertarians they didnt think things through enough and half assed it. I dunno, I think thats funny. Were united in our opposition of the radical left. You want to be anti-authoritarian, okay, as long as you make an exception for the people who are going to use it for your benefit and to stop white genocide.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495703079 127039868,127043816,2017-05-25 09:05:40,,,Anonymous,gadsden-nazi.jpg,ZEQFGIArhHfoDarPrHyW7Q==,AU,,1495703140 127039868,127043830,2017-05-25 09:05:48,">>127042898 Says the guy whose system relies on people magically submitting to it in unison to work",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495703148 127039868,127043840,2017-05-25 09:05:52,">>127043098 No u. Pic related was taken well after several waves of Reddit trash, any real doom paul memer or lolberg pre2015 knows this stuff, you cant astroturf this crap.",,Anonymous,pols-political-beliefs.png,GWY0g7D+Nt+726+ViyIUkQ==,CA,,1495703152 127039868,127043914,2017-05-25 09:06:51,">>127043098 Also, National Socialism is not aut kike.",,Anonymous,aut-kike.jpg,uJ8hge0jbRcK82L/2MpxAw==,CA,,1495703211 127039868,127043994,2017-05-25 09:08:03,"Okay my dudes Portubro here. You asked me to give the verdict on Reactionary Liberty, so here it is: it's fucking amazing. The content of the book is expansive and covers many topics. The first three chapters give you the quick rundown on Austro-libertarianism, private property, praxeology and a priori truth (so to speak). After that it's redpill after redpill after redpill. Chapter 4 on Cultural Marxism... Holy shit, I never read such a concise and clear-cut explanation of this poisonous ideology. He names the Jew (Herbert Marcuse and some other kikes), quotes them directly and uses other sources to unveil their ideology of death and hatred for the West. Chapter 4 of Reactionary Liberty is /lrg/ mandatory reading. The rest of the book is excellent too. It has r/K selection theory, strict immigration, crypto-anarchy, etc. It's /lrg/ incarnate.",,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1495703283 127039868,127044058,2017-05-25 09:08:46,>>127043840,,Anonymous,strawpoll.jpg,thfnO+HWZIOO34KlGgb2nQ==,AU,,1495703326 127039868,127044064,2017-05-25 09:08:53,How's that nigger mercenary army coming along?,,Anonymous,Merc.gif,/XsILMleFfM3zyhricE9Rw==,US,,1495703333 127039868,127044162,2017-05-25 09:10:01,">>127043830 >build a house >be forced by the government to give it to my fellow white man because we're basically the same right lol :^) I'll pass.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495703401 127039868,127044260,2017-05-25 09:11:09,">>127042461 You cunts are just as bad as communists. Fuck off",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495703469 127039868,127044286,2017-05-25 09:11:29,">>127042898 Its not marxist socialism, its radically different. Part of it was chosen to attract leftists of the day. I wont spam your thread as I normally would with the context of ""Those Damned Nazis"" because its a lolberg thread and Ill have enough respect, but you should read it for a better understanding of the differences. They executed the leftist element after they wouldnt sit content with what National Socialism is really about, and started pushing for abolition of private property and repossessing more than just kikes property etc.",,Anonymous,Hitler-Socialist-Red.png,d3u2AiVJ/ni1Ye0OfYhdWA==,CA,,1495703489 127039868,127044303,2017-05-25 09:11:40,">>127042805 Love this channel",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495703500 127039868,127044342,2017-05-25 09:12:12,">>127043830 Strawman. We don't rely on people following some moral principles (law) more than other ideologies.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495703532 127039868,127044415,2017-05-25 09:13:09,">>127044286 >""it's not muh marxist socialism"" I don't care. It's still socialism, and you need to leave",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495703589 127039868,127044477,2017-05-25 09:13:53,Whos /Dixie/ here,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495703633 127039868,127044496,2017-05-25 09:14:07,">>127044058 The poll I posted is fairly well known among /pol/acks. Its from 2015, which is late. The point is, even after many Reddit invasion waves watering down the population, National Socialists were still the majority. Before Reddit, it was almost exclusively National Socialists, and Libertarians, with a few people who might consider themselves inbetween, as Traditionalists, or Fascists, or whatever. A few larping monarchists, and some of the lefty/pol/ trash who eventually got tired of being wrong, but they never raided us like they do now, from other boards etc. Thats board disruption, if we had non-compromised mods, they would (and did in years past) ban them.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495703647 127039868,127044559,2017-05-25 09:14:49,">>127044260 Actual communist upset that Natsocs and Lolbergs are united against commies.",,Anonymous,Laughing Pauls.png,wWfB5ji3cHl573D/VQvnbw==,CA,,1495703689 127039868,127044584,2017-05-25 09:15:11,">>127044496 The natsocs took this board from libertarians, libertarians are the originals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495703711 127039868,127044620,2017-05-25 09:15:32,">>127044415 Its actually not, and you have no argument.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495703732 127039868,127044672,2017-05-25 09:16:08,">>127043840 >only 408 votes ahahahahah learn some statistics will ya",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495703768 127039868,127044718,2017-05-25 09:16:39,">>127044620 >national SOCIALISM",,Anonymous,1494496599590.png,OOE6aQV0bij9WLVT5mcifw==,CA,,1495703799 127039868,127044737,2017-05-25 09:16:50,">>127044286 >its radically different How so? Leftists have been killing each other for petty differences since the dawn of socialism. That quote you posted is quite obvious to the minor amount of differences there are between NatSoc and regular Soc. You could paint libertarianism all you want in red and leftists would still never be able to understand our point of view or share it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495703810 127039868,127044976,2017-05-25 09:19:19,">>127044584 /pol/ was about objective truth. When the truth comes out, people see Hitler did nothing wrong, and Hitler was right. Some people, knowing this, still would advocate a society where governments cant control them. This is understandable to some degree, and we are not traditionally hostile to eachother. Actual marxist cunts like to undermine that cooperation and mutual respect. We have our differences of opinions, a real National Socialist will always point to how kikes could control a libertarian society and how you could never truly have such a society, unless it were agreed upon to remove kikes.. and really, you would need it to be racially homogeneous too. Most libertarians understand these things, around here. Thats why we get along. They understand that any healthy society must be a racially homogeneous society, and that rape and wanton murder and theft and roaming nigger gangs and mexican cartels that behead people can only be stopped if the niggers and beaners who form them aren't around in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495703959 127039868,127045135,2017-05-25 09:21:13,">>127044976 >They understand that any healthy society must be a racially homogeneous society Some of us understand this too, I just don't think alienating society for years is a better or more sustainable way to achieve this than right of voluntary segregation.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495704073 127039868,127045145,2017-05-25 09:21:23,">>127044496 This poll is even later, 2017. The sample size is 11 times larger. http://www.strawpoll.me/12581497/r",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495704083 127039868,127045224,2017-05-25 09:22:21,,,Anonymous,ron rand lrg.jpg,GGj/N/x9Ht/PrOnGNejW6w==,AU,,1495704141 127039868,127045228,2017-05-25 09:22:23,">>127045145 Polls after 2015 are meaningless, Reddit. You actually thought that would prove anything except that the board has been stolen from its original owners? Youre a joke.",,Anonymous,Asshurt-Reddit.png,E90EqhXKPfDOV7iXRKPaIw==,CA,,1495704143 127039868,127045285,2017-05-25 09:23:03,">>127044976 >When the truth comes out, people see Hitler did nothing wrong, and Hitler was right. He was right about many things, but his economic policies wasn't one of those things. Some of us here value liberty as well, and so we're opposed to his statism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495704183 127039868,127045341,2017-05-25 09:23:34,"I like ancap ideas i read in these threads but holy fuck are these books boring. I'm trying ""For a New Liberty"" by Rothbard and it's so dull and dry. Are any of these ideological books the least bit entertaining or am i just a brainlet?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495704214 127039868,127045346,2017-05-25 09:23:38,">>127039868 >>127041740 >>127041917 >>127042751 >>127042898 Libertarians are fucking retarded. Lets import a bunch of cheap labor so they can vote against libertarianism. Here's your (you)s for making me come here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495704218 127039868,127045373,2017-05-25 09:23:58,">>127044976 Alright, I'll come out and say it. I'm a fucking kike. I was raised Catholic and grew a distaste for both leftism and Judaism as I got older. I'd totally be on board with your Nazi larpfest if it didn't include executing me for a genetic factor that I had no control over. This is why your movement will never gain any traction; it's way too niche and exclusive, and you just keep alienating potential allies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495704238 127039868,127045391,2017-05-25 09:24:07,">>127045135 Voluntary segregation would be nice, but the kikes shot the last guy who had the blacks willing to participate. These are also our countries, and the takeover of them.. you could say violates the NAP.",,Anonymous,Rockwell-MLK2.png,BQoRzc3nGR7xrAJyPYBI3Q==,CA,,1495704247 127039868,127045631,2017-05-25 09:26:57,">>127045373 There was a half Jew who made it pretty high in the German army, who Hitler himself declared German. That only goes so far, though. Races are different, and yours tends to cause a lot of disruption in other countries, and leans towards parasitic activities, promotion of degeneracy.. youre always the first to go after media and take control. Its in your blood these things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAj7BGuNnUI They never wanted to exterminate Jews, just deport them however. You want to live in Israel, be our guest. Just dont fuck with our countries from your country, or thats war.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495704417 127039868,127045643,2017-05-25 09:27:05,">>127039868 Libertarians are usually just edgy teenagers. Just identify as Republicans and move on with your life",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495704425 127039868,127045666,2017-05-25 09:27:22,">>127045228 But you just said ""the point is, even after many Reddit invasion waves watering down the population, National Socialists were still the majority"". Why aren't I allowed to use that same logic and say that even after 2 MORE years of this alleged ""Reddit invasion"", libertarians and natsocs are roughly 50/50? Also don't you realise that the poll you posted only shows 23% support for national socialism?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495704442 127039868,127045755,2017-05-25 09:28:10,">>127045373 >>127045631 Also, with Trudeau planning to make Canada 20% white by 2060, it will gain traction. You cant vote to stop white genocide, never will be able to. That said, people will be forced to resort to other methods of stopping it, and National Socialism is one of the first they look to. Ethnic Nationalism in general is nearly unstoppable now, if it takes the form of National Socialism, thats still to be decided.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495704490 127039868,127045952,2017-05-25 09:30:18,">>127045666 A 50/50 poll means nothing, and polls after 2015 are meaningless. Even the 2015 poll doesnt prove this board was National Socialist. Thats just something /pol/acks know. The libertarian and National Socialist communities have grown, that doesnt change that this board was always primarily NatSoc with a large number of lolbergs who agree with ethnic policy to a large degree, but not economy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495704618 127039868,127045960,2017-05-25 09:30:21,">>127045346 >Lets import a bunch of cheap labor >vote Free trade doesn't equal open borders. The right to discriminate exists, a property owner has every justification to keep unwanted people off his property. Also, voting is democratic and thus anti libertarian. Democracies are communist regimes pretending to be something else. You can't uphold libertarian values while the mob can vote in commies. That's why monarchies are a thousand times better at protecting personal liberties than a (((democracy)))",,Anonymous,1492401388257.jpg,e32p2q278J3k3nK9D7VmQg==,DE,,1495704621 127039868,127046190,2017-05-25 09:32:59,">>127045643 You don't know what you're talking about",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495704779 127039868,127046464,2017-05-25 09:36:26,">>127045755 I just want to know what'll happen to the non-white civic nationalists who oppose white genocide after you theoretically achieve success. Do you deport them from their own homes after they help to fight your cause? That hardly seems ethical.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495704986 127039868,127046613,2017-05-25 09:38:09,">>127045952 >A 50/50 poll means nothing Why? It clearly means that libertarianism and national socialism are equally popular on /pol/, which means you can't claim some sort of orthodoxy. >polls after 2015 are meaningless Why? You're clearly just saying that because your poll is from 2015. And you can't just say ""Reddit boogeyman"". >Even the 2015 poll doesnt prove this board was National Socialist So natsocs aren't the majority? Not even in 2015? >Thats just something /pol/acks know. Complete non-argument. Face the fact that an alliance is necessary.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495705089 127039868,127046664,2017-05-25 09:38:43,">>127046464 They will fall in line, they wont violently oppose Ethnic Nationalism. Its like asking what will happen to the blacks who support whites in South Africa or Rhodesia, when the blacks start taking action. They fell in line, with the other blacks. A couple people had tires burned around their necks, and that snapped the rest of them out of it. Whites found no allies among blacks in Africa. and those who would poison our society shouldnt expect to find many here, either.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495705123 127039868,127046822,2017-05-25 09:40:33,">>127046664 >>127046464 Now, alternately, say the leftists take control. They will kill all whites, they wont care if you were on their side from the start, they will treat you like the muslims treated the Christians in Lebanon when they argued on their behalf. >Youre all infidels, no different from one another Thats how the enemy will treat you. We will forgive you, if youre willing to admit you were wrong... and havent say, been burning coal and attacking whites and calling people nazis and stormfags. Thats not okay.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495705233 127039868,127046875,2017-05-25 09:41:08,">>127046822 He speaks the truth, thanks for articulating things better than I could.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495705268 127039868,127047265,2017-05-25 09:45:27,"Why are generals being allowed more and more? This isnt lebbit and generals go against chan culture. Very few exceptions can be made, but the whole purpose of an imageboard like 2ch and 4chan is that the threads exist for a conversation and then die off. This isnt a forum. Anyone who has been here for more than a few years know the entire nature of this shit is to spur active conversations and let old conversations slide off into oblivion. Why are the jannies and mods such newfags? Delete this shit until OP learns to leave off /general/ in his fucking title. We can talk about whatever this shit is about but 404 generals with few exceptions. Same with the Communist threads. They don't deserve a general either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495705527 127039868,127047467,2017-05-25 09:47:33,">>127047265 >/pol/ - Politically Incorrect >you can't discuss right-wing libertarianism here!",,Anonymous,i dont know WHAT the fuck is going on.jpg,/HTXsN4+DsQzL1ojN2231g==,AU,,1495705653 127039868,127047476,2017-05-25 09:47:37,">>127046664 >>127046822 Sounds like kind of a lose-lose situation. Are you sure there isn't a way to do this without harming or displacing hordes of innocent people? Also >calling people nazis or stormfags isn't okay This is just more overly sensitive bullshit. Are you against freedom of speech? You do realize how dangerous that is, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495705657 127039868,127047520,2017-05-25 09:48:02,">>127047265 Just be glad its not more cuck porn and nigger dicks, I have absolutely no problem with libertarian generals, especially not libertarian right ones. The commie general has been left up by the compromised mods for like 6 months now, and this is when you start to complain? I bet this is fucking lefty/pol/. >Why are the jannies and mods such newfags? Delete this shit until OP Where is this shitstain in the commie general? Posting ""based stalin!"" memes, I bet.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495705682 127039868,127047695,2017-05-25 09:49:58,">>127047476 Its not about freedom of speech, its about where you were when it mattered, and if you were trying to squash anyone concerned with racial issues or genocide as an ""ebil nazi!"" I mean it like how the left uses it. Concerned about that muslim who raped a 4 year old Austrian boy and was let off because he said he couldnt understand the kid telling him to stop, due to the language barrier? Nazi! That kind of thing. Calling people stormfags is just cancer, thats what actual niggers and commies and.. jews do.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495705798 127039868,127047770,2017-05-25 09:50:47,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1485286968771.jpg,5DEXzLO7w+yNgRjMwN/yDg==,CZ,,1495705847 127039868,127047886,2017-05-25 09:52:08,>>127047770,,Anonymous,Communist-Breadlines.png,txmexeFopL9wO+1zu5fbww==,CA,,1495705928 127039868,127048251,2017-05-25 09:56:21,">>127047695 I'm deeply concerned with racial issues, and I'm aware of white genocide and want it to stop. My problem is that even if I advocate against white genocide the very people I'm siding with will eventually try to forcefully deport or kill me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495706181 127039868,127048642,2017-05-25 10:00:22,">>127047520 >The commie general has been left up by the compromised mods for like 6 months now, and this is when you start to complain? No, this isn't where I start to complain you fucking faggot. I've complained in almost every /general/ that pops up the past few months. This isnt lebbit. Make a normal god damn thread to discuss your topic. This isn't a fucking forum you absolute dumb fuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495706422 127228401,127228401,2017-05-26 14:48:22,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - BEWARE THE SLANDERERING SERB & SWEDE EDITION,Anonymous,hoppe pol logo.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,SK,,1495810102 127228401,127228502,2017-05-26 14:49:21,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,do it for hoppe.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,SK,,1495810161 127228401,127228569,2017-05-26 14:49:58,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1495810198 127228401,127228622,2017-05-26 14:50:31,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux",,Anonymous,lrg tiers.jpg,Ih5kYEktvivoO7oz5G1xhQ==,SK,,1495810231 127228401,127228849,2017-05-26 14:52:40,"Have a phone background, ancaps",,Anonymous,Ancap Phone BG.png,tZqW71jluPERGMCXUPFiXg==,US,,1495810360 127228401,127228895,2017-05-26 14:53:03,And one for my minarchist bros,,Anonymous,Minarchist Phone BG.png,eQGpCpHi7wx2PbO2pxUVVw==,US,,1495810383 127228401,127228981,2017-05-26 14:54:09,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,SK,,1495810449 127228401,127229012,2017-05-26 14:54:31,">>127228401 just join the syndicate",,Anonymous,Leftypol.png,qkpeyEimdftrHPs6IDIYVw==,US,,1495810471 127228401,127229109,2017-05-26 14:55:21,">>127228849 >>127228895 Thanks, B. How's the aiborne oven project going? If you're the chief, that is.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495810521 127228401,127229145,2017-05-26 14:55:35,Fuck you and your false ideology,,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495810535 127228401,127229197,2017-05-26 14:56:07,">>127229012 Kill yourself, it's free.",,Anonymous,compass all.jpg,fGLnxMuqb5rwiyi5yv8Vkg==,SK,,1495810567 127228401,127229275,2017-05-26 14:56:53,">>127229145 Zadrhni sa knedľou, kokot.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495810613 127228401,127229305,2017-05-26 14:57:11,">>127229109 Not me, sorry. >>127229012 >Just give up your property rights >mfw",,Anonymous,i warned ye.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1495810631 127228401,127229345,2017-05-26 14:57:29,">>127229145 >>127229275 Forgot pic",,Anonymous,czech pimps.jpg,E1Nq5rWheTxMWzTSFRCvRg==,SK,,1495810649 127228401,127229386,2017-05-26 14:57:52,">>127229305 mfw property is theft",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495810672 127228401,127229536,2017-05-26 14:59:16,">>127229275 Liberalism and Lolbertarianism are two most corrupt ideologies ( right after communism ) based on amorality and rejection of the collective",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495810756 127228401,127229543,2017-05-26 14:59:18,Oy vey goyim of course we dont want free flow of capital and workforce.,,Anonymous,4ee.png,VDxlUHMSqnzHX6x04IVOtg==,FI,,1495810758 127228401,127229703,2017-05-26 15:01:05,">>127228622 >Jeffrey Tucker not in literal faggot tier it's tucker time fgt",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,JE22vjeBdEvVxfrdq8truQ==,US,,1495810865 127228401,127229814,2017-05-26 15:02:06,">>127229386 Stirnerites get out reeeeee >>127229536 >libertarian is bad because it isn't collectivist >communism is bad too Pick one",,Anonymous,no argument.png,MiLJRLsOVNZVyb+QT9eJzQ==,US,,1495810926 127228401,127229920,2017-05-26 15:03:09,">>127229386 Nobody owns anything unless they make a claim. Therefore, property is theft from no-one, literally the opposite of actual theft.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495810989 127228401,127230000,2017-05-26 15:03:52,">>127229536 >hates communism >makes fun of people for rejection of the collective c'mon man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495811032 127228401,127230077,2017-05-26 15:04:41,">>127229386 do you have any idea how contradictory that statement is?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495811081 127228401,127230312,2017-05-26 15:06:58,">>127229814 Communism is bad because it's economical endgame is beyond unrealistic and denies basic facts of human psychology - also denies economical self sustainability for the individual I hate libs and libts because they deny existance of any and every collective there is - they don't give a shit about family, laws for them is just something they wanna universally repeal, they love drugs, hate AoC, etc. >>127230000 Noice quads Read above",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495811218 127228401,127230405,2017-05-26 15:07:53,">>127229536 >amorality Nothing more immoral than using force against people who aren't doing anything wrong, i.e. taxing them simply because they produce. >collective We acknowledge that division of labour and economy of scale mean that people thrive in communities and not alone. We also don't lie to ourselves about the fact that man's mind cannot be broken as easily as his body, so we let people associate with whomever they wish. This results in conservative, White, traditional communities thriving and in libcuck ancom shitholes dying because they deserve it. Putting liberalism and libertarianism anywhere close one another after 1900 is a sign of early dementia, you actual moron. Ako som povedal, zadrhni sa knedľou, ty cigánsky kokot. Mali ťa vyplaviť tí istí občania, ktorí sa ti musia skladať na sociálne dávky, pretože máš viac detí, než bodov IQ.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495811273 127228401,127230511,2017-05-26 15:08:47,">>127229703 Libertines should be gassed. Rothbard didn't man gas chambers, but he should have.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495811327 127228401,127230983,2017-05-26 15:13:20,">>127230312 >family nigger what do you think is going to replace the state as a social unit? the kikes in the government are taking your kids away to indoctrinate them for 6-8 hours a day for 15 years to hate you and love degeneracy and you don't seem too bothered by it, because at least it's not the evil libertarians who would have given you the right to shoot muds on sight 20 years ago >laws Read The Law by Bastiat. Law is Justice - that means protection of life, liberty, and property. Life and liberty are basically just ownership of self, which means that any society not recognising property is unjust in the core. >AoC What are we, Muzzies? We're not the ones brainwashing young kids to love cock. Diddling kids is degenerate and should be punishable by death.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495811600 127228401,127231057,2017-05-26 15:14:02,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,hoppe commies covenant.jpg,ckKjaFAUScKcuxT33B/0Hg==,SK,,1495811642 127228401,127231068,2017-05-26 15:14:05,">>127230405 Taxation isn't wrong - unecessary taxation is Economical policies aren't the issue here although I'm not a fan of international free market Social issues are tho. Excessive freedom equals disorder. A nejsem cigán - Jenom nejsem pro-EU paroháč s nadrženým čurákem na nezletilé a nepotřebuji vytesat do ústavy že fetovat je právo S tím jděte a ten celý Váš blok do řiťi",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495811645 127228401,127231166,2017-05-26 15:14:59,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,snek human rights.jpg,WzxOo1i9qyBbnLUcrz39jQ==,SK,,1495811699 127228401,127231222,2017-05-26 15:15:29,">>127230312 Economic and economical are not synonyms. Perhaps your observation is true for left-libertarians (georgists, hippie, ancoms, etc.), but the ancap, the minarchist, and any other variety of right-wing libertarian most certainly do not reject the existence of collectives. Hans Hermann Hoppe, the most prominent libertarian thinker alive today, stresses that the ideal libertarian social order would be a patchwork of small covenants who would decide their own laws and ways of life. I don't desire that social order myself; I'm a minarchist, so I don't think total anarchy would be ideal, but I certainly agree with him that there should be voluntary micro-collectives in place of super-centralized socialist republics.",,Anonymous,Hoppe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1495811729 127228401,127231708,2017-05-26 15:20:06,">>127231068 Taxation is the price we pay for inferior people to exist. Make of it what you will - they're the reason a central, coercive authority is placed upon the people. International free markets suck ass - who the hell thinks China should trade with anyone? They have an endless supply of slave labour, they're fucking abominable. Freedom means the right to pursue happiness. However, this needs to be compatible with the rights of others - homos threaten your health, drugs threaten your property, free movement threatens your life, etc. Fet je degenerácia a bežný feťák si aj tak zaslúži helikoptéru. Kosti pedofilov by mali byť prímesou do cementu, a EÚ je židovské zovretie Európy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495812006 127228401,127232076,2017-05-26 15:23:13,">>127231708 Is that even being right wing libertarian tho? Seems to me like you're just Right Wing Conservative There are many libts who love homosexuality, hate the state, love pedos and love EU.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495812193 127228401,127232206,2017-05-26 15:24:24,">>127231057 Ain't I Right seems a bit more authoritarian right considering the line against burning draft cards. Some more music: >The Limeliters - Harry Pollitt - youtube.com/watch?v=SIaRyaQw4N0 >Oingo Boingo - Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=xqXAW2snGMI >h o p p e w a v e - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ",,Anonymous,Fuck Islam.png,lwquMKIOk8YTOJcXXlRyiw==,US,,1495812264 127228401,127232268,2017-05-26 15:24:57,">>127230312 >self sustainability for the individual >rejection of the collective is bad pick one and only one senpai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495812297 127228401,127232306,2017-05-26 15:25:17,Does anyone have a 1920x1080 ancap/libertarian flag wallpaper? Preferrably without a snake,,Anonymous,,,AT,,1495812317 127228401,127232428,2017-05-26 15:26:31,">>127232306 Just the ancap flag then?",,Anonymous,Ancap flag.png,REkru/YWxVEpB9ndTDjHbQ==,US,,1495812391 127228401,127232519,2017-05-26 15:27:25,">>127232268 You prolly can't see a difference between economical individual responsibility for themselves and social collective structures such as the state, family etc.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495812445 127228401,127232663,2017-05-26 15:28:45,">>127232428 Yup, exactly what i was looking for. Thanks a lot.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1495812525 127228401,127232826,2017-05-26 15:30:10,">>127232519 You prolly can't see a difference between economical individual responsibility for themselves and voluntary social collective structures such as covenants, family etc. not based on the use of unjust force and subjugation of one's will onto others",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495812610 127228401,127233153,2017-05-26 15:33:12,">>127232826 No one forces you to get married - doesn't mean you shouldn't have then responsibility to that family once you do. Responsibility must always come before ones happiness",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495812792 127228401,127233159,2017-05-26 15:33:15,">>127232076 Read Kulturkampf, an article by Rothbard. He was allied with Pat Buchanan and the paleo-conservatives. Mises and Rothbard were both race realists and radical conservatives, as evidenced by their approval of fascism over communism. Mises mentored Rothbard, who became an AnCap (Mises was a minarchist) and then he taught Hoppe, who became literally Hitler. Some of Hoppe's views: Keynes' flawed economic stances may have been caused by his homosexuality. Democrats and communists are detrimental to society and need to be physically expelled in order for that society to survive. In a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, the proponents of (((alternative))) lifestyles also need to be removed, in order to honor that original meaning of the covenant.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495812795 127228401,127233441,2017-05-26 15:35:50,">>127233153 I am forced to pay taxes senpai and I agree with you that responsibility comes first. Anarcho-Capitalism is freedom from state, not responsibility. If anything, irresponsible people are filtered out because there's no state to baby them with welfare",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495812950 127228401,127233445,2017-05-26 15:35:51,What does /lrg/ think of Tom Woods?,,Anonymous,mbWa49ZD[1].jpg,4wlFlZhFnU9se3NmNOfz2Q==,US,,1495812951 127228401,127233811,2017-05-26 15:39:12,I ran across this a few weeks ago. Thought you guys might get a kick out of it.,,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-04-24_15-36-19.png,hMNj4IXSuerFId77Tg1oGQ==,US,,1495813152 127228401,127234056,2017-05-26 15:41:28,Im interested in the history of friendly societies can anyone give me some good sources?,,Anonymous,,,GE,,1495813288 127228401,127234093,2017-05-26 15:41:50,">>127233441 If there isn't larger social structure which enforces that responsibility it'll eventually cause disorder Ancap utopia is illusion. It's basically Globalism in hands of the 1% instead of the states. And taxes that are wasted on welfare is bad - no one ever said it isn't - but taxes themselves aren't complete evil - Military and police are necessary structures provided by state which could not or would be disadvantagous for the society if they'd be in private hands",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1495813310 127228401,127234564,2017-05-26 15:46:04,">>127233811 Hoppe is probably thrice this cuck's age and HHH could curb-stomp him until he fills the cracks on the road that's being inefficiently managed by the state's tax revenue.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495813564 127228401,127234580,2017-05-26 15:46:13,">>127228401 >/lrg/-approved people >Timothy McVeigh SlovakOP delivered",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495813573 127228401,127234972,2017-05-26 15:49:40,">>127233811 I want this fag going full cognitive dissonence after reading the chapters on immigration",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495813780 127228401,127234976,2017-05-26 15:49:41,">>127233811 He doesn't really make any arguments against it though, he's just saying what was in the book as if everyone should know its inherently wrong. The only argument I can really get from this is ""All of these things are apparently axiomatic truths that cannot be denied even when, say, productivity figures in the Nordic countries match or exceed those in countries with less thoroughgoing redistributive schemes,"" and that's a poor argument considering the there are much more factors to take into account than wealth redistribution in analyzing productivity among different countries.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495813781 127228401,127235069,2017-05-26 15:50:18,">no Nozick You fucking disgust me",,Anonymous,IMG_2412.jpg,WdidJwGm4A+DEgXvPzyrvg==,ZA,,1495813818 127228401,127235180,2017-05-26 15:51:11,">>127234056 >flag I can see why you might want to read up on some friendlier places. >Medieval Iceland >http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Iceland/Iceland.html >https://www.lewrockwell.com/2002/06/roderick-t-long/the-vikings-were-libertarians/ >Ancient Gaelic Ireland >https://mises.org/sites/default/files/For%20a%20New%20Liberty%20The%20Libertarian%20Manifesto_3.pdf (go to pg 79, though he discusses a few other examples in preceding pages) >https://peacerequiresanarchy.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/stateless-societies-ancient-ireland/ And of course >The American Old West >https://invisiblemolotov.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/wild-west3.pdf",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,LJ/F+jRmh8oi5PPBtncQtA==,US,,1495813871 127228401,127235305,2017-05-26 15:52:17,">>127228849 i wish i was on my phone to save this but thanks for your contribution to society",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495813937 127228401,127235462,2017-05-26 15:53:26,">>127233811 >All of these things are apparently axiomatic truths that cannot be denied even when, say, productivity in the Nordic countries match or exceed those in countries with less thoroughgoing redistributive schemes. They must have missed the entire point of the introduction where it's impossible to de-entangle the effects of a policy from all the surrounding factors. Also note how he makes to attempt to actually refute the logical reasoning of HHH, just makes pleas to his statist narrative, plus the CURRENT YEAR ('seriously in the century'). The first paragraph is at least entertaining, especially the quip about hyphenation. >>127234580 You mean Timothy ""Abolish the state with ammonium nitrate"" McVeigh?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495814006 127228401,127235695,2017-05-26 15:55:39,blue corner > purple corner,,Anonymous,right authoritarian futa.png,vJIDch1cV4RjyRQ0jHUtiA==,PT,,1495814139 127228401,127235714,2017-05-26 15:55:49,any new orleans anons here,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495814149 127228401,127235727,2017-05-26 15:55:55,">>127233811 >muh nordick countries every time >>127234093 >If there isn't larger social structure which enforces that responsibility it'll eventually cause disorder This is true. But, while your intent is clear, the method isn't: you simple cannot force responsibility onto other people. There cannot be legislature that says responsibility is required by law. Instead, what must be done is simple and uses your aforementioned disorder productively: degenerates are left to their own private property, while you keep to your own, upholding ultra-conservative laws within your realm. The irresponsible degenerates, starved of welfare, will crash their own property because degeneracy is still degeneracy and one of two will happen: 1. Some people will decide to give up being a degenerate and go back to civilized private societies where degeneracy is banned 2. Some degenerates will riot and use violence, in which case violence is rightfully justified in return and they can be killed freely without guilt The system cleans and filters itself much more efficiently than if you try and force responsibility on degenerates directly. They have to learn the error of their ways, and if they don't learn, you must let them suffer the full consequences of their degeneracy without mercy. >It's basically Globalism in hands of the 1% instead of the states. How so? I never understood this ""criticism"" when it's LESS government, not a bigger one to rule the world. it's not Globalism if there's no central authority over everything. >which could not or would be disadvantagous for the society if they'd be in private hands In what way can private police not work or would be ""disadvantageous""? If anything, the free market of competing police agencies for the best services mean they would have to be even better then their competitors in upholding peace and minimizing crime. Compare this to a stagnant police force appointed by law that is just *assumed* to be doing their best *just because*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495814155 127228401,127235817,2017-05-26 15:56:41,">>127235695 how so?",,Anonymous,1491690754786.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1495814201 127228401,127235851,2017-05-26 15:57:02,">>127235069 Unfortunately for us minarchists, ancapism is much more in vogue. Ancap just seems like better meme material. For those who care, here's Nozick's big piece in the libertarian world: https://joseywales1965.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/0001_anarchy_state_and_utopia.pdf For those who are interested in minarchism, here are some other authors to look into: >Ron Paul >Adam Smith >John Locke >David Hume >Ludwig von Mises >Thomas Paine >Friedrich Hayek >Harry Browne >John Stuart Mill",,Anonymous,Minarchist Snek.jpg,vMOvNnQfmYK4JW/MUSbwZg==,US,,1495814222 127228401,127235884,2017-05-26 15:57:17,">>127235462 Uh...I meant Timothy ""be a hero,nuke the bureau"" McVeigh",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495814237 127228401,127235966,2017-05-26 15:58:05,">>127235714 I visited there a couple years ago. Walter Block teaches at Loyola.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495814285 127228401,127236054,2017-05-26 15:58:47,">>127235695 >cropping out everything but the text This is why nobody likes you, neocons",,Anonymous,1486070841318.jpg,O9n98yAcj9GFgw7SrbuVMA==,US,,1495814327 127228401,127236063,2017-05-26 15:58:51,">>127233445 I like him",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1495814331 127228401,127236212,2017-05-26 16:00:17,">>127235851 Nice",,Anonymous,1453549881414.jpg,ZCIxKWhgkUEMDeFq834UXw==,ZA,,1495814417 127228401,127236250,2017-05-26 16:00:35,">>127234580 I pandered to your shitposting, Frenchbro. I've liked him as long as I've known about him, though.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495814435 127228401,127236280,2017-05-26 16:00:51,">>127235695 PLEB",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ZSRX9GKeUefaDpz/7RyvNg==,FR,,1495814451 127228401,127236457,2017-05-26 16:02:18,">>127235695 >futa >not degenerate GEE THANKS STATE FOR SAVING US FROM DEGENERACY! You're like a refutation of your own non-argument. Thank you for having made my day.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495814538 127228401,127236553,2017-05-26 16:03:10,">>127236280 if you fucc them you might get aids - chris cantwell, pikeville, 2017",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495814590 127228401,127236720,2017-05-26 16:04:42,">>127235180 >Medieval Iceland >Ancient Gaelic Ireland >The American Old West literally family <3",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495814682 127228401,127236830,2017-05-26 16:05:42,"Anyway is Founding Father Ameribro in here? HOW'S THE MOBILE OVEN?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495814742 127228401,127237420,2017-05-26 16:11:17,">>127235817 I feel like most of the people who identify with the purple corner are the ""DUDE lesbians with rifles defending marijuana fields LMAO"" people or gun wielding trannies. and even if the blue corner has a lot of economically illiterate people and way to many protectionists at least most of them seem to be interested in preserving Christian/European nations and culture >>127236457 because the free market does such a wonderful job at stopping ""degeneracy""",,Anonymous,e-celeb political compass.jpg,17GI0XiEyq+UhHdLKH3xzQ==,PT,,1495815077 127228401,127237702,2017-05-26 16:13:41,">>127237420 Bullets do a good enough job. Either way, Molyneux and That Guy High-T are ancaps.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495815221 127228401,127237979,2017-05-26 16:16:05,">>127236830 Did his artwork evolved ? Didn't saved it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495815365 127228401,127237981,2017-05-26 16:16:05,">>127237420 Well, we're paleolibertarians; the good kind, not libertine infiltrators.",,Anonymous,mises_fascism.jpg,9QvQLBMFSKthD8aRYgjvvw==,GB,,1495815365 127228401,127238146,2017-05-26 16:17:39,">>127237979 this is the most latest one i have on my machine",,Anonymous,1495707740292.png,POQV+TK7gpq+vzSuUsaI6w==,US,,1495815459 127228401,127238187,2017-05-26 16:18:01,">>127238146 im not him btw*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495815481 127228401,127238487,2017-05-26 16:20:44,">>127237702 I didn't make that meme Christopher Cantwell would fit much better, but he's not famous enough >>127237981 I didn't say I hated all the purples, I know there are a lot of great people there. I just think it's much more heavily infiltrated.",,Anonymous,ancap fascism.png,nPDb0IVenvjAIRPrymjXTw==,PT,,1495815644 127228401,127238530,2017-05-26 16:21:02,"how would libertarians handle the US global empire if they controlled DC? would it be (((multinational corporations))) run amok?",,Anonymous,Dwight.jpg,5ltkI2nMsx2RoRDo/Phx4Q==,US,,1495815662 127228401,127238612,2017-05-26 16:21:36,"Yikes, ancap is literally the single gayest faction on this board. They even put little bowties on their ball. Fruitcakes.",,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,qRTOEHykmZpkYN/5E/pwFA==,SE,,1495815696 127228401,127238641,2017-05-26 16:21:54,">>127238487 > I just think it's much more heavily infiltrated. Completly agree",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495815714 127228401,127238805,2017-05-26 16:23:27,">>127238612 Anarchoball is a fag and we all know it here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495815807 127228401,127238847,2017-05-26 16:23:47,">>127233159 > Keynes' flawed economic stances may have been caused by his homosexuality. Source?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495815827 127228401,127239036,2017-05-26 16:25:21,">>127233159 >Keynes' flawed economic stances may have been caused by his homosexuality. that's bullshit but i believe it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495815921 127228401,127239250,2017-05-26 16:27:24,"Wassap. Sorry I'm late. >>127238146 It's me, America checking in. I still want to make the image Danette danker taking suggestions.",,Anonymous,police_focus_image.jpg,FGBqIi+TtsQ8fP94lboeng==,US,,1495816044 127228401,127239328,2017-05-26 16:28:08,">>127239250 >Dannete Phone posting, never mind my apparent retardation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495816088 127228401,127239513,2017-05-26 16:29:43,"""Taxation isn't theft but it is extortion but it doesn't make for that good of a slogan"" - Austin Petersen The thing is that you are not OBLIGED to pay but it's a nice house you have there, it would be a shame if somebody were to kick you out of it.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495816183 127228401,127239829,2017-05-26 16:32:21,">>127237981 I'm interested in finding the citation for this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495816341 127228401,127239920,2017-05-26 16:33:05,">>127236830 I'm here, I'm gonna add Hoppe in, pushing the fags out, and decorate the oven with more fire and oyyveyyyyy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495816385 127228401,127240095,2017-05-26 16:34:30,">>127239920 keep it up lad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495816470 127228401,127241450,2017-05-26 16:46:53,">>127228401 No Ayn Rand??",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495817213 127228401,127241527,2017-05-26 16:47:43,">>127241450 No Ayn Rand.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495817263 127228401,127241776,2017-05-26 16:49:34,">>127241527 Red pill me because from what I know she was pretty economically sound + objectivism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495817374 127228401,127242248,2017-05-26 16:53:41,Imagine if your philosophy was so fucked that you had to rely on something like 'natural law' haha :D,,Anonymous,stirn.jpg,dYsORZI/N+7LcSFs9wGg+g==,SE,,1495817621 127228401,127242479,2017-05-26 16:55:43,">>127239920 Nice. Can you post the update on the pic?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495817743 127228401,127242573,2017-05-26 16:56:29,">>127242479 The one posted is the most recent, I gotta add stuff in.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495817789 127228401,127242577,2017-05-26 16:56:29,">>127238146 >>127242479 Whoops, didn't scroll up. Shieet.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495817789 127228401,127242856,2017-05-26 16:59:03,"I'm really liking this Timothy ""anotha shoah down in Oklahoma"" McVeigh fella, meme him more.",,Anonymous,oklahoma_00000.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,US,,1495817943 127228401,127242918,2017-05-26 16:59:36,What if companies want to flood the market with cheap imported labor? How should the natives respond?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495817976 127228401,127242977,2017-05-26 17:00:07,">>127238530 libertarians will never be taken seriously until they answer this question",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495818007 127228401,127243070,2017-05-26 17:00:52,">>127238612 >posts a meme claiming we use strawmen >while trying to make a case against anarchyball >whomst we hate That retard literally doxxed Mr. Please Clapperton. For recruiting Jared Howe, Eric July, and That Guy T - all of whomst'd've have spines and are good libertarians, unlike Anarchyball. What makes you think we like that ass? I know Fapperton made the comics, but they parted ways. He's cringy too, but at least he no longer shit-talks helicopters.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495818052 127228401,127243177,2017-05-26 17:01:45,">>127238847 >>127239036 Hoppe's Wikipedia page, I think.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495818105 127228401,127243195,2017-05-26 17:01:56,">>127229703 >Creates a virtual city for Libertarians, writes profusely, red pills hundreds of children. >(You) Shitposts on 4chan Who's the real cuck?",,Anonymous,myfacemysoul.jpg,xSFDAf+l5r2FO6YHfQ8XNw==,US,,1495818116 127228401,127243339,2017-05-26 17:03:11,">>127233445 Based salesman",,Anonymous,work hard in silence.jpg,yuCKXiAtn+/R39YuLjKfLw==,US,,1495818191 127228401,127243493,2017-05-26 17:04:32,">>127228401 Hoppe ain't a true ancap, he's a communist.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495818272 127228401,127243494,2017-05-26 17:04:32,">>127243195 ok bro u rite, lemme open a Tumblr and redpill trannies to the cause",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495818272 127228401,127243505,2017-05-26 17:04:41,">>127238530 >>127242977 First we need a violent revolution to purge all the commies and other wrenches in the system of natural law. Then we rely on property rights, which would mean American enterprises overseas would basically turn into U.S. territory. We're taking U.S. Steel, though. Nuttin person-hell. Corporations would take a beating after regulations are gone.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495818281 127228401,127243643,2017-05-26 17:05:54,">>127243493 >t. leftypol",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495818354 127228401,127243681,2017-05-26 17:06:07,">>127233811 Why do they always sound like condescending skinny weak boys who have never done anything risky in their life?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495818367 127228401,127243835,2017-05-26 17:07:30,">>127243494 Someone needs to make the clothes and shit. Go get em faggot.",,Anonymous,ancapanime.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1495818450 127228401,127244242,2017-05-26 17:11:12,">>127243505 thats not how national sovereignty works",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495818672 127228401,127244575,2017-05-26 17:14:05,"What is the name of this libertarian right politician these gentlemen are talking about? I can't understand due to retarded German accent. >https://youtu.be/EwjwmQZNwVQ?t=297 Also few seconds later at 5:33 he mentions some Argentina's Pinochet-like dictator named Victor and I spent an hour looking for it and all I found was this: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Mar%C3%ADa_Mend%C3%ADa Does anybody know last name of that Victor guy?",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1495818845 127228401,127244789,2017-05-26 17:15:57,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-33cuur-hTc Im not really into nog music but this song is dank. I got Mises on my shelf, a low time preference for wealth And I roll argumentation ethics for the ownership of self",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495818957 127228401,127245825,2017-05-26 17:24:58,">>127242248 I hate stirnposters so god damn much",,Anonymous,spooks.jpg,9lkDjsKnJPlwiMiGkQNgSA==,US,,1495819498 127228401,127246332,2017-05-26 17:29:34,">>127242248 Still better then having a philosophy relying on yourself and how ""unique"" you are",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495819774 127228401,127246670,2017-05-26 17:32:30,">>127244575 Can someone answer? It's a 40 second listening and you guys will definitely recognize the politicians. I want to grasp the ideology fully.",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1495819950 127228401,127247054,2017-05-26 17:36:04,">>127246670 don't know who they're talking about. never heard of a victor something who drugged commies and dropped them in the ocean. sounds like a pretty cool guy tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495820164 127228401,127247158,2017-05-26 17:37:05,">>127246670 Hayek?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495820225 127228401,127247169,2017-05-26 17:37:09,">>127246670 sounds like Victor ""Somefuck"" maybe he just didn't know the name and said it or made the story up perhaps",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495820229 127228401,127247193,2017-05-26 17:37:20,">>127246670 >>127247054 >Jorge Videla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Rafael_Videla He says it right at the end of the video",,Anonymous,Jorge_Rafael_Videla_1976.png,me/vnUIhugmHzXO1CV60gQ==,BE,,1495820240 127228401,127247328,2017-05-26 17:38:30,">>127247054 Yeah, I admire Pinochet but that guy was apparently even more brutal. I know it's not libertarian principle to kill because of thoughtcrime, but it just sounds cool.",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1495820310 127228401,127247472,2017-05-26 17:39:50,">>127245825 Explain to me why property as a natural right should be taken seriously. >>127246332 Yikes",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495820390 127228401,127247626,2017-05-26 17:41:19,">>127242856 You mean Timothy ""exterminating more bureaucrats than the invention of FAX"" McVeigh ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495820479 127228401,127247716,2017-05-26 17:42:06,">>127247472 Explain why your ego should be took seriously without natural law",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495820526 127228401,127247886,2017-05-26 17:43:39,">>127247716 I get that there are different levels of sophistication in libertarianism. You're the lowest.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495820619 127228401,127248154,2017-05-26 17:45:53,">>127247158 THANKS ANON!! I finally figured he said ""Hayek and so forth"". Thanks for assistance dude. >>127247193 Thanks Beligianon, really appreciate it! I couldn't watch it til the end because of the part above.",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1495820753 127228401,127248533,2017-05-26 17:49:40,">>127247626 Yeah, Timothy ""empty my nine at the welfare line"" McVeigh is a pretty cool goy. my hoppe isnt so good maybe i'll redo it but I have no creative feels for it right now.",,Anonymous,Huey.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1495820980 127228401,127248541,2017-05-26 17:49:45,">>127247886 >insulting makes me right And that's why even the leftists Hegelians (his Bros) disliked Stirner folks",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495820985 127228401,127248589,2017-05-26 17:50:13,">>127245825 >>127247472 Are you the stirnerite swede from yesterday? You still haven't responded to by counter-argument.",,Anonymous,1491701990550.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,GB,,1495821013 127228401,127248782,2017-05-26 17:52:04,">>127248533 I love it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495821124 127228401,127249001,2017-05-26 17:53:56,">>127248589 I'm pretty sure I responded to everything that made any sort of sense, I might have missed it if it was late in the day. I don't accept stirnerite.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495821236 127228401,127250428,2017-05-26 18:07:05,so to speak.,,Anonymous,Thumbs up.png,1xrQED6+FM/hRdCRFO4NzQ==,US,,1495822025 127228401,127251599,2017-05-26 18:17:22,,,Anonymous,1493218481414.jpg,3bfmBHWB8HuQpFdht5Pazg==,GB,,1495822642 127228401,127252308,2017-05-26 18:23:26,">>127251599 >when someone tells you that universal voting is good because the people would know the country's legitimate concerns",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495823006 127228401,127252813,2017-05-26 18:27:38,"WHAT IF THE CHILD CONSENTS THO? > https://twitter.com/Vedmak00/status/867926314904416257",,Anonymous,feelsbad-nakedchildevents.jpg,4RDgCA3yMlc9xlFCXcJkTA==,DE,,1495823258 127228401,127253003,2017-05-26 18:29:12,">>127248589 Okay I see. >Since men can think, feel, evaluate, and act only as individuals, it becomes vitally necessary for each man’s survival and prosperity that he be free to learn, choose, develop his faculties, and act upon his knowledge and values. So that's what rothbard says. Note that the term 'vitally necessary' is just used for emphasis, there is nothing that says it must, by necessity, be this way. Rothbard is talking about how it *should* be, it's a moral sentiment based on what is best for mankind, given the nature of humans. So that's what he means by natural rights.. I suggest as a footnote that the questions 'what can be' and 'what will be' are more important than the question of 'what should be', and that the failure to realize this creates a lot of unnecessary confusion. >On it's necessity, surely you must agree with simple axioms about human nature - are all humans not trying to advance their position in the world, obtaining that which they find subjectively valuable? - if you believe in such statements, then surely you must concede that you can logically derive further information from these? These are empirical questions and calling them axioms is misguided, I can concede them for sake of argument. Note that we cannot logically derive a moral judgement from an empirical fact. (1/2)",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495823352 127228401,127253116,2017-05-26 18:30:14,>>127252813,,Anonymous,if the child consents.png,chq4vnTJqJyiwbt8st1apA==,US,,1495823414 127228401,127253526,2017-05-26 18:33:55,">>127248589 >On it's utility, a society that respects natural law (even were it a spook) is going to be more successful than one that is not. Do not all societies prohibit and discourage unprovoked murder? Will not a society that holds property rights in absolute be more propsporous than an ""anarchy of lawlessness""? Here's the problem. If we have conceded that humans seek to obtain subjective goals and advance their position in the world, then we have to view the things you mention in that context. Criminal and property laws are human institutions that serve human goals. Now wouldn't you admit that it's a natural trait of humans to avoid being unfairly treated or exploited? -- Then why should human tools like property and criminal law be available to the man that wants to advance his position; but the human tool of violent resistance, which is just as 'natural', be denied to the man that wants to avoid being exploited?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495823635 127228401,127253599,2017-05-26 18:34:27,">>127253003 >>127253526 (2/2)",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1495823667 127228401,127256039,2017-05-26 18:56:12,"How to achieve a libertarian society: 1. Get a young traditional wife > 2. Get a fine job > 3. Make tons of babies > 4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other) > 5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing > 6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants > 7. Privately educate your kids. Send them to good, elite, schools where they can fulfill their quest for knowledge and make great contacts. > 8. Vote, support parties/think tanks/people that want to reduce govt and degeneracy. > 9. Become a central point in your community's affairs. Know the local Father, the politicians, your neighbors, your kids' friends' parents, and so on. Invest a lot into local change. Godspeed.",,^~,prosper.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,PT,,1495824972 127228401,127256738,2017-05-26 19:02:54,">>127228622 you should consider adding Ron Paul's Liberty report to media list, on YouTube, daily on weekdays and covered sec 702 yesterday",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495825374 127228401,127258946,2017-05-26 19:23:03,,,Anonymous,1482560740107.jpg,gSLUPyGk4EjjP9qBGusafg==,GB,,1495826583 127228401,127259213,2017-05-26 19:25:26,">>127258946 audible kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495826726 127228401,127260280,2017-05-26 19:35:37,">>127238612 Not an argument",,Anonymous,notanargument.jpg,0mTlvYcGOS0PBPCAv09WGQ==,US,,1495827337 127228401,127260975,2017-05-26 19:41:53,">>127238612 who you mean cuckball? He's not even /ourguy/ .",,Anonymous,Cuckball.jpg,dyMjchLBss1nbXZlh9zKag==,US,,1495827713 127228401,127261198,2017-05-26 19:43:55,Picarda AnCap ball is /lrg/'s ball of choice,,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1495827835 127228401,127261256,2017-05-26 19:44:21,">>127260975 AnarchyCuck is a fucking facebook-tier faggot.",,Anonymous,lrg.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1495827861 127228401,127261425,2017-05-26 19:45:49,">>127261198 It's a shame meme ball / picardía threads are a relic of the past now. Guess I'll have to figure out how to use that EmotiGuy software by myself.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,US,,1495827949 127228401,127261471,2017-05-26 19:46:17,">>127261198 this",,Anonymous,1489060723327.gif,NVpLQZZCftr2HhVNCI1POA==,US,,1495827977 127228401,127261597,2017-05-26 19:47:24,">>127261425 Andy is nice",,Anonymous,AnCapAndy.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,US,,1495828044 127304703,127304703,2017-05-27 06:26:13,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ Not expecting much posting today so this thread will serve as a propaganda poster rather than debate or discussion.",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,US,,1495866373 127304703,127304722,2017-05-27 06:28:25,"We are paleolibertarians, holding conservative and traditional values. We believe the best way to preserve these values is by allowing people to live as they please, allowing the responsible to survive and the stupid and degenerate to fail.",,Anonymous,RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1495866505 127304703,127304746,2017-05-27 06:31:32,">>127304703 Shame!",,Anonymous,1495692331686.jpg,Dkbx6AW6b3o5VGUdSENlTA==,US,,1495866692 127304703,127304752,2017-05-27 06:32:50,">>127304722 Are paleoconservative and paleolibertarian the same thing? What do >we think of Pat Buchanon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495866770 127304703,127304767,2017-05-27 06:35:04,">>127304752 I'd have a beer with him",,Anonymous,1477115100105.jpg,UDjAaawdSmnTQmfY75O3GA==,US,,1495866904 127304703,127304774,2017-05-27 06:35:51,"/lrg/ seeks to differentiate ourselves from the mainstream libertarians who promote nothing but weed, gay marriage and multiculturalism. >>127304746 >The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling that nothing is worth war is much worse I agree completely, there can be no pacifism if we are to secure our own freedoms. >>127304752 Not quite the same, paleolibertarianism is still more anti-state that paleocons. although we do share alot of the same virtues.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1495866951 127304703,127304789,2017-05-27 06:37:16,Communists are self proclaimed aggressors against private property. Their worldview is incompatible with libertarianism and so they must be subjugated if we are to have a libertarian social order.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495867036 127304703,127304816,2017-05-27 06:40:51,">>127304774 ah, I see. I'm pro-state since I think libertarians can't get the job done",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495867251 127304703,127304842,2017-05-27 06:43:33,"Some say libertarianism equates to liberal ""tolerance"". These people are mistaken in thinking we approve of or will even tolerate such destructive lifestyles such as homosexuality, prostitution, pedophilia, polygamy. We see the state as the biggest promoter and protector of these types of lifestyles. In the absence of the state no one will prevent discrimination against these groups or subsidise their breeding. We see libertarianism as a sort of evolutionary eugenics.",,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1495867413 127304703,127304889,2017-05-27 06:48:51,"Right-Wing populism is a strategy that suits libertarianism well. Cutting taxes/welfare, opposing globalism, and defending family values not only applies consistently to libertarianism and opposes the ruling class., but also appeals to the majority of americans/countrymen.",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1495867731 127304703,127304924,2017-05-27 06:51:45,"We must make clear what we are and what we are not. Many people who call themselves libertarians are really just liberals who are not economically ignorant. We oppose leftist/liberal tolerance, destruction of the family and so on.",,Anonymous,1485703346145.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1495867905 127304703,127304926,2017-05-27 06:51:59,,,Anonymous,fightback.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1495867919 127304703,127304931,2017-05-27 06:52:53,">Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property",,Anonymous,OpenBorders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1495867973 127304703,127304935,2017-05-27 06:53:37,,,Anonymous,1434746073350.jpg,A3K2RGPEFVeZrvy2Fx6Fjg==,US,,1495868017 127304703,127304938,2017-05-27 06:53:49,,,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,US,,1495868029 127304703,127304939,2017-05-27 06:53:58,,,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,US,,1495868038 127304703,127304942,2017-05-27 06:54:07,,,Anonymous,1491407014760.jpg,GlEe8arP6SbraxSCyM94wg==,US,,1495868047 127304703,127304946,2017-05-27 06:54:25,,,Anonymous,misc (4).jpg,loryyDKMeZx40HWKilOZfw==,US,,1495868065 127304703,127304951,2017-05-27 06:54:34,,,Anonymous,blue (1).jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,US,,1495868074 127304703,127304960,2017-05-27 06:56:00,"Agorism is a joke, sure you can get some tax free trade which is good. It is foolish to believe selling weed will supress the states power.",,Anonymous,misc (1).jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,US,,1495868160 127304703,127304962,2017-05-27 06:56:09,,,Anonymous,misc (6).jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,US,,1495868169 127304703,127304973,2017-05-27 06:57:20,"ANTI-EGALITARIANISM >We began by considering the common view that the egalitarians, despite a modicum of impracticality, have ethics and moral idealism on their side. We end with the conclusion that egalitarians, however intelligent as individuals, deny the very basis of human intelligence and of human reason: the identification of the ontological structure of reality, of the laws of human nature, and the universe. In so doing, the egalitarians are acting as terribly spoiled children, denying the structure of reality on behalf of the rapid materialization of their own absurd fantasies. Not only spoiled but also highly dangerous; for the power of ideas is such that the egalitarians have a fair chance of destroying the very universe that they wish to deny and transcend, and to bring that universe crashing around all of our ears. Since their methodology and their goals deny the very structure of humanity and of the universe, the egalitarians are profoundly antihuman; and, therefore, their ideology and their activities may be set down as profoundly evil as well. Egalitarians do not have ethics on their side unless one can maintain that the destruction of civilization, and even of the human race itself, may be crowned with the laurel wreath of a high and laudable morality. >EGALITARIANISM AS A REVOLT AGAINST NATURE https://mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0 >RACE! - MURRAY ROTHBARD https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >THE BELL CURVE - RICHARD J. HERRNSTEIN & CHARLES MURRAY https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/the-bell-curve.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495868240 127304703,127304986,2017-05-27 06:58:08,"These two books are required reading to post in this thread. >ANATOMY OF THE STATE - MURRAY ROTHBARD https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >DEMOCRACY-THE GOD THAT FAILED - HANS-HERMANN HOPPE http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf",,Anonymous,1491600796988.jpg,C2hp05oTG5lRMBo3nLGzpg==,US,,1495868288 127304703,127304992,2017-05-27 06:58:26,What about women though?,,Anonymous,1481830597929.png,ciSY0W8u+5dERCyzmMn8TA==,US,,1495868306 127304703,127304993,2017-05-27 06:58:35,,,Anonymous,lrg.png,qcwNoqmxajqDXELeyGY+ZQ==,US,,1495868315 127304703,127305000,2017-05-27 06:59:16,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1495868356 127304703,127305008,2017-05-27 06:59:51,"just memes now baby, maybe i'll post some more. maybe i wont. Good day all.",,Anonymous,Huey.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1495868391 127304703,127305141,2017-05-27 07:15:55,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,/hOx9LzeSqpOhSbURKfIUw==,US,,1495869355 127304703,127305143,2017-05-27 07:16:24,">>127304992 But seriously, do they have natural rights like men or not?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495869384 127304703,127305177,2017-05-27 07:21:13,"Listening to Hoppe speeches all day https://youtu.be/in3sacFHcck",,Anonymous,1488220332411.jpg,WzxOo1i9qyBbnLUcrz39jQ==,US,,1495869673 127304703,127305217,2017-05-27 07:26:37,">>127305143 Sorry I didn't read that wall of text, but I would say so, will they be equal to men in their performance? Probably not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495869997 127304703,127305372,2017-05-27 07:45:00,,,Anonymous,oklahoma_00000.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,US,,1495871100 127304703,127305397,2017-05-27 07:47:49,">>127305143 Yes. But equality of opportunity != equality of outcome. They will have to compete on a true level playing field.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495871269 127304703,127305552,2017-05-27 07:59:37,">>127304703 >>127304703 >muh freedum Why should I care? If someone thinks they can create a better world than one in which freedom is absolute, then why wouldn't they? Assuming a better world is simply just one full of more happy people, is this not better, and is freedom not relatively evil in this case? >>127305177 Not believing in human rights doesn't make them void all of a sudden. That wouldn't mean you believe that human rights should be selectively applied, just like most commies.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495871977 127304703,127305615,2017-05-27 08:00:54,"It's all the same. All government comes down to ""How can I best steal from my neighbor without letting him steal from me?""",,Anonymous,5IWn0Jt.jpg,g6R+VVM9JabmvFP2HBh2pQ==,US,,1495872054 127304703,127305621,2017-05-27 08:00:58,">>127305177 What a comfy way to spend the Saturday my friend. Got the Corax conf ticket already, what should I tell Hoppe to write in my copy of Democracy?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495872058 127304703,127305686,2017-05-27 08:02:26,">>127304993 >fucking based The catchphrase of Nu-pol. Typical. >>127305615 Except you can't demonstrate how that's true for the third position and for communism.",,Anonymous,1428678052799.jpg,Lm6Rj5dgwclx1NuSt32aMw==,AU,,1495872146 127304703,127305835,2017-05-27 08:05:09,,,Anonymous,276.jpg,P1HIFNxWyJ77RhHXDAsq3g==,US,,1495872309 127304703,127305886,2017-05-27 08:06:00,">>127305686 fuck off, havok",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495872360 127304703,127305901,2017-05-27 08:06:15,">>127305552 >That wouldn't mean you believe that human rights should be selectively applied And what would happen when you reject to accept their arbitrary limits on your human rights?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495872375 127304703,127306068,2017-05-27 08:09:18,">>127305901 >reject to accept Please be all around clearer with your posts. I don't know whether you are referring to communists or ancaps when you ask this question.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495872558 127304703,127306240,2017-05-27 08:12:02,">>127306068 The part of the post I quoted refers to commies.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495872722 127304703,127306388,2017-05-27 08:14:25,">>127306240 So I suppose my answer is that they already do. Communists believe that class warfare against porky is justified. They however don't have a concept of a NAP. Lolspergtarians still need to deal with this contradiction.",,Anonymous,1494361294239.jpg,XTKOURzQyzZzlRhOtJQcFg==,AU,,1495872865 127304703,127306477,2017-05-27 08:15:38,">>127306388 I've dealt with it. See >>127304789",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495872938 127304703,127306852,2017-05-27 08:20:53,">>127306477 So expression of intent is grounds for summary execution... However you're no better as you express intent against them. So no moral high ground for you.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495873253 127304703,127307178,2017-05-27 08:25:45,">>127306852 >So no moral high ground for you. LOL, is that the best you can do? Wew, at least you agree that your assertion that the NAP is a contradictory to our removal of commies was false. This is the all powerful logic of stirnerite homos.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495873545 127304703,127307340,2017-05-27 08:27:58,">>127305621 What else: ""physically remove...""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495873678 127304703,127307348,2017-05-27 08:28:03,">>127304703 Points of discussion: What do we do if degeneracy gets too widespread and the free market doesn't solve it and bring it back to traditionalism? For instance, I don't see nigger communities ever naturally moving back to traditionalism, the environment breeds nigger tier behaviour and it gets spread downwards to the young. So no intervention in this scenario will just lead to more niggery. So there are three parts to my problem: 1) What happens if the free market doesn't revert the culture back to traditionalism? 2) If it doesn't revert the culture back to traditionalism, at what point is state intervention required? 3) If you want to stick to minimal small government and not use state intervention, what other solutions are there?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495873683 127304703,127307401,2017-05-27 08:28:50,">>127306852 >Person A wants you to eat whatever you want, he wants chocolate >Person B wants to kill you unless you eat vanilla >Person A defends himself, but somehow according to a dumb stirnerite in pol this defense would make person A just as bad as person B",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495873730 127304703,127307479,2017-05-27 08:30:02,">>127307178 You're right, it's probably not a good argument. However you still need to declare that declaration of intent is grounds for execution. >I'm going to smack you in the gabba >*bang* >twas self defense! >LOL wew, I've never really played around with the idea that the NAP has contradictions before so forgive me for being slow moving forward.",,Anonymous,safe_image.php_.jpg,sgOytmqz4QsXnCw6n8IMJA==,AU,,1495873802 127304703,127307540,2017-05-27 08:31:00,">>127307401 >>Person A defends himself, but somehow according to a dumb stirnerite in pol this defense would make person A just as bad as person B >Implying person B's declaration of intent is grounds for execution See, this is why police are handy. They can ARREST people for declaration of intent.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495873860 127304703,127307870,2017-05-27 08:36:03,">>127307540 If you base your entire argument around the disproportionate response to a mild act of aggression, then of course you're going to be right, but the problem is that you're the only one in this thread who spoke about execution.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495874163 127304703,127308288,2017-05-27 08:42:02,">>127307479 A threat is a threat, you can understand that your friend was joking when he said he was gonna kill you and not kill him, but even so coercion is to violate the terms of non aggression. Defending yourself is up to you. No one is making you kill people for what is seemingly a joke.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495874522 127304703,127308374,2017-05-27 08:43:08,">>127307870 >but the problem is that you're the only one in this thread who spoke about execution. Yup... I'm really off the ball tonight. Hell, I don't even believe you need intent in order to act preemptively. Not sure why I'm arguing this.",,Anonymous,1494360562557.jpg,drfqxGl6mtHeuQBI7ZG1HQ==,AU,,1495874588 127304703,127308543,2017-05-27 08:45:37,">>127308288 I suppose this brings us to the question of to what extent can one flippantly act against other under the pretext that the NAP was violated. Whereas in our organized society we have laws, the NAP is a rather simple concept. Would you support a strictly drafted constitution?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495874737 127304703,127309086,2017-05-27 08:52:45,">>127308543 Contracts. If I'm a libertarian, in a libertarian ""frame"", and I want to live among people who think like me segregated from people who don't think like me, I would search for a community/private city where communist ideas/democracy is strictly forbidden via contractual obligation. The response would have to be simply eviction in case of contract breach from the tenant.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495875165 127304703,127309145,2017-05-27 08:53:40,">>127309086 So this would be Hoppean ancap yes?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495875220 127304703,127309347,2017-05-27 08:56:33,">>127304816 >libertarians are anarchists this is your brain on memes",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495875393 127304703,127310284,2017-05-27 09:07:56,">>127309145 Correct.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495876076 127304703,127310490,2017-05-27 09:10:41,">>127310284 Don't know enough about your ideology to critique it. I just don't think that you're going to get far with freedom as your god as opposed to happiness. Of course I'd advocate being your own god, however I'd also advocate building a world that you'd like to see. not because it's ""free"", but because it pleases you. Would I be correct in saying that Hoppean ancap has a twinge of Troskyist thought in that the revolution needs to be global so that monolithic global powers can't come in and tread on you?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495876241 127304703,127310987,2017-05-27 09:17:29,">>127310490 Obviously no ideology can defeat the entire world's military powers, but no, self defense for an ancap nation is definitely possible",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495876649 127304703,127311520,2017-05-27 09:24:29,">>127310490 I, and most libertarians/ancaps in these generals, don't believe only in freedom. For example, I believe in your freedom to smoke, I will not allow you to smoke in my house though. I believe in your right to be homosexual, I would not want to live in a community where gay pride parade is a thing, I believe in your right to take drugs, I believe in my right to tell my daughter not to do drugs unless she wants to get her teeth kicked in (so to speak). Happiness is subjective, one person might be happy with a lot of money from immigration, another person might be happy with less money but more racial purity around him. The right of association and dissociation allows us to pursue our personal happiness and that's what I defend. >Would I be correct in saying that Hoppean ancap has a twinge of Troskyist thought in that the revolution needs to be global so that monolithic global powers can't come in and tread on you? Not at all, anarcho capitalism does not require global acceptance. Other powers trying to tread on us is a possibility, China trying to wipe us would probably end badly, just like it would end if they tried to wipe Malta today, no amount of state would save us from getting btfo'd with one nuke. International response against aggression towards countries that just want to commerce and peaceful coexistence is usually uniform though. You could say that we count on that, on people all over the world unifying against China, along with our own defense. If China started conquering peaceful countries and the rest of the world didn't give a shit, would end badly for everyone, not just ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495877069 127304703,127311983,2017-05-27 09:30:27,">>127310987 See, Trotsky predicted that if communism was established, the statist capitalists of the world would unite against it. As for the defense of an ancap state, I find it hard to believe it could be made effective without a full time black army. And a black army can exist because in some forms of anarchy the black army will be entitled to what they need just like the rest of the populace. Defending a communist or anarchist collective would therefore probably be easier than defending an ancap collective, as the ancap collective would probably require individuals to pay capital to the black army. This would of course need to be done voluntarily. Or perhaps in Hoppean ancap, it would be art of the social contract. And even then, would all of the autonomous collectives agree to act in unison during military matters? Would those surrounded by friendly collectives bother to chip in, or instead force their neighbors to defend them through defending themselves? Would there not be a propensity to internal war over these disagreements? The way I see it, Trotsky's theories apply here just as much. Only with the intriduction of capital as a variable, probably mmore so. If I had to choose between communism and ancap I'd have to choose communism based on it's propensity to attain longevity.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495877427 127304703,127312400,2017-05-27 09:35:53,">>127311520 You would of course believe in their freedom to do what they wish so long as it doesn't infringe on you, though, correct? I don't personally agree as that could well degenerate society. >Other powers trying to tread on us is a possibility If the state is a tool of oppression exclusively as some of you guys seem to think, then states everywhere would shit themselves. Then again, the rootless international clique will probably run rife in your capitalist hives so you might well be safe. >f China started conquering peaceful countries and the rest of the world didn't give a shit The problem is a bunch of countries fabricating reasons to invade you, citing ""human rights"" and shit like that. You'll never be safe unless you can defend yourself and make friends. As it turns out, just having discussions with you guys is more educational and thought provoking than just arguing with you.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495877753 127304703,127312860,2017-05-27 09:41:37,">>127311983 I agree that a lot of statist leaders would like to go to war against against somewhere that threatened democracy, but I doubt the public would be in support, especially not if it was peaceful. In event of war, ancapistan can put up a good defense. For one, it's decentralised, you can't simply just take the capital and have the rest of the country fall. It'd require extensive bombing (and retaliation would be pretty strong) or other more extreme tactics. Secondly, it's incredibly hard to invade for the same reason, plus everyone should be heavily armed. By this I mean, well just look at 'nam and how the most advanced military in the world lost to a bunch of farmers because they were defending. Third, I'd wager the collective might of every REA in ancapistan would be pretty strong.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495878097 127304703,127313539,2017-05-27 09:49:39,">>127312400 >You would of course believe in their freedom to do what they wish so long as it doesn't infringe on you, though, correct? I don't personally agree as that could well degenerate society. Not necessarily infringe on me, I believe in the right of dissociation. You could be homosexual, what you do in your bed might not infringe on me, but what if my happiness depended on me knowing my neighbors are not degenerates? The market should have the capability of offering me a way to dissociate with homosexuals. Now this is a complex topic and we could write a lot about it, but out belief is that economic incentives lead to a lower degeneracy and that the state, and the possibility if offers you for enjoying the benefits of living in society without having to be exposed to judgement or discrimination, are the biggest degeneracy enablers we currently have.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495878579 127304703,127314059,2017-05-27 09:56:00,">>127312860 Fighting a war against a heavily armed, heavily decentralized opponent in their own terrain is a nightmare scenario. Doing it against a sworn society of self-defense pacifists with principles of free information and ubiquitous broadcasting adds another layer of nightmare. Any atrocities you use to break the defensive advantage of this society will be known forever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495878960 127304703,127314066,2017-05-27 09:56:05,">>127312860 >but I doubt the public would be in support, especially not if it was peaceful. You underestimate propaganda. >For one, it's decentralised, you can't simply just take the capital and have the rest of the country fall. Breaking up the chain of command basically makes the enemy as effective as an ancap defense would start out. > It'd require extensive bombing (and retaliation would be pretty strong) or other more extreme tactics. Or just take what you want. >Secondly, it's incredibly hard to invade for the same reason, plus everyone should be heavily armed. Tacticool retards versus an army of professional soldiers... > By this I mean, well just look at 'nam and how the most advanced military in the world lost to a bunch of farmers because they were defending And because they had a fucking army as well as tanks from the soviets. Also, internal strife in America lost them that war. They were going to win easily. Like, really easily. The kill to death ratio was 20 to 1. The 1 includes south Vietnamese deaths. >Third, I'd wager the collective might of every REA in ancapistan would be pretty strong. >Be REA >Big ass army coming >Hey big ass army, wanna not hurt me in exchange for stuff and friendship >okeh Just one of the ways this can go terribly, terribly wrong.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495878965 127304703,127314396,2017-05-27 09:59:47,">>127313539 This is rather complex. I'm not sure where to go from here, but you definitely make some good arguments. I'm going to fuck off to bed now cause I don't feel like thinking any harder. Very interesting ideas tho. Something to think of.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495879187 127304703,127314454,2017-05-27 10:00:26,">>127314059 I'd much rather fight a bunch of riff raff than an organized defense. An unorganized defense is slow and unreactive.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495879226 127304703,127314477,2017-05-27 10:00:38,">>127314066 >You underestimate propaganda. no u Seriously though, both sides have access to propaganda. Capitalist propaganda has a funny kind of efficiency (HAIL TO THE MARKETING GODS) when it really gets put to the task. I don't feel like going through your whole post, I just wanted to point that out. Marketing gods... not usually my faves, but there's power there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495879238 127304703,127314709,2017-05-27 10:03:12,How can one be a left libertarian. Libertarianism is always on the economic right,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495879392 127304703,127314881,2017-05-27 10:05:12,">>127314709 Left libertarians are basically half-libertarian moderates. ""Libertarianism is good, but we've got this huge state now, and we shouldn't dismantle it recklessly before we figure out what all the bits and pieces are doing."" They want cautious reforms towards the introduction of a market economy. Ever played Crisis in the Kremlin?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495879512 127304703,127315203,2017-05-27 10:08:48,">>127314881 But Gary Johnson isn't left libertarian then. He's all for free market, dismantling government programs and agencies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495879728 127304703,127316501,2017-05-27 10:23:48,">>127314396 A pleasure, feel free to come any other time, we're quite open to exposing our ideas. Expanding a bit on the topic of economic incentives I mention in >>127313539 and not necessarily as a response to the australian poster. Imagine that research shows that black people tend to infringe higher costs on healthcare than white people, with the right of discrimination that we libertarians advocate for, one company could use this research and create an insurance only for whites backed by this research piece. Now, initially this is going to have a negative response from the majority of bleeding heart retards, most people are going to refuse such insurance. But this company doesn't care, they are covering a market niche and they're doing just fine economically. Suddenly, people in this insurance are saving thousands per year thanks to discrimination against black people. Now, people who initially rejected the idea of discrimination start seeing a reason to purchase this insurance, they are not racists, but they're looking for themselves first. Eventually other companies see the enormous success of this insurance company and try to emulate it. Perhaps another company decides not to be fully racist, but make some numbers, notice trends, and now they allow black people with college degrees because their crime rates are the same as whites. What would black people do in this situation? They would need to adapt, they would need to demonstrate that they can reduce their criminality and be part of society benefits again. This is how economic incentives deals with degeneracy, described with broad strokes.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495880628 127304703,127317358,2017-05-27 10:33:43,">>127316501 Same goes for homosexuality -> low time preference, STDs -> Higher costs opens the opportunity to discriminate against them and see good results Drug addicts -> You can see it so easily here Etc. In the end, degeneracy is expensive, and is only enabled when the costs are forcefully socialized.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495881223 127304703,127317457,2017-05-27 10:34:51,">>127317358 Not racemixing that's pretty cheap",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495881291 127304703,127317666,2017-05-27 10:36:59,">>127317457 Women who engage race mixing are more likely to end up as single mothers and be abused. Quite expensive.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495881419 127304703,127318183,2017-05-27 10:42:21,">>127304703 Libertarians are degenerates. Authority and fascism is natural. Kill yourselves.",,Anonymous,3qlhcu.jpg,XQciv8Su+dS6NciYgkb4gg==,DK,,1495881741 127304703,127318211,2017-05-27 10:42:39,">>127317666 Not all of them and anyway in this free market women will have more money available if they work a job",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495881759 127304703,127318458,2017-05-27 10:45:31,">>127318211 But as I post in the example of Black people criminality, all you need is one insurance discriminating race mixers and demonstrating that their costs can be lower than those insurances that don't discriminate race mixers. Which is possible, because race mixers tend to incur higher costs.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495881931 127304703,127318643,2017-05-27 10:47:26,">>127318183 You're an idiot, probably Jewish too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495882046 127304703,127318701,2017-05-27 10:48:15,,,Anonymous,eJwFwVsOhCAMAMC7cABaXlW8DUGCZpUSqPFjs3ffma96xqU2dYj0uQHs58w8dj2FR6pFV-Z6ldTPqTPfkERSPu7SZIJD68muuFjnI0VCBGfI-GBM8GtYEDESPO3T-G26t6p-fwUiIs0.WsasrNuV2MigpFwAoL0DJ3OiRhc.png,mrweB6rg1l658iHspN1L6g==,GB,,1495882095 127304703,127318857,2017-05-27 10:49:57,">>127318458 And there will be insurance for race mixers, you would still make a profit. Another example McDonalds or another business in ancap is not about to stop selling burgers to gays nor are insurance companies, if you make a small profit off the race mixers then it will continue. An Insurance isn't gonna drop all insurance claims for young white men since they crash their cars way more, just make it a little extra then your average white driver but they would have to keep it low because there still is a market for white young men car insurance",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495882197 127304703,127319430,2017-05-27 10:56:24,">>127318857 >And there will be insurance for race mixers For sure. But it will be more expensive. Women will have to weigh this factor in before race mixing. >Another example McDonalds or another business in ancap is not about to stop selling burgers to gays nor are insurance companies McDonalds probably not, because they have no incentives/way of reducing their costs by discriminating gays. Healthcare insurances, however, would be able to reduce their costs by discriminating/charging more to gay people. >just make it a little extra then your average white driver but they would have to keep it low because there still is a market for white young men car insurance Right, but, again, all you need is one company doing market research and noticing that discriminating X will allow them to offer lower costs to the rest, which will allow them to dominate the market.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495882584 127304703,127320143,2017-05-27 11:03:33,">>127319430 >Healthcare insurances, however, would be able to reduce their costs by discriminating/charging more to gay people. If they make a profit off the gays then they would have more power then someone who discriminates against them, I don't like them but theirs enough of them to make money for a insurance company, you imply they are a negative bank balance Even if you were correct and several companies all abandon them there will still be several other companies selling relatively cheap insurance for these people because there is still a market, therefore their insurance just comes out a little more expensive but it's still payable and livable with.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495883013 127304703,127320864,2017-05-27 11:10:48,">>127320143 I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to convey here. Yes, there will be a market of insurances for gay people, there's money to be made there, I don't imply they are going to have a negative bank balance, I imply that they incur higher costs. I, repeat, don't claim gays/race mixers/degenerates will be abandoned, only that the costs for their insurances will be higher. Example: A company decides to socialize the averages, group of people A costing 100, group of people B costing 50, insurance cost 75. Another company realizes that by discriminating group of people A they are able to offer group of people B an insurance at the cost of 50. This second company will dominate the market for people B. The first company will be forced to charge people A 100 because they cannot reduce their costs by socialization anymore.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495883448 127304703,127321292,2017-05-27 11:15:00,">>127320864 I understand that I'm saying that small rise in pricing will not be enough to counteract homosexuals or Race mixers. Say what you want but people do crazy things for love and paying a couple extra dollars or something is worth it to these people.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495883700 127304703,127322022,2017-05-27 11:22:14,">>127321292 You would also need to factor in all the single-mother benefits women get in social democrat countries that make life more expensive for married parents and single people. Income support, housing benefits, tax reduction, all these from the top of my head, all these would not exist in a libertarian order.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495884134 127304703,127322589,2017-05-27 11:28:06,">>127322022 They wouldn't have taxes either though, if they had a job they could support the insurance along with food and other life things so that does nothing to stop race-mixing and homosexuality except in the very poor.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495884486 127304703,127324116,2017-05-27 11:43:16,"I'm loving pass users only /pol/, it's officially an AnCap board. Socialists BTFO!",,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1495885396 127304703,127326396,2017-05-27 12:06:26,,,Anonymous,1491774328231_0.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,US,,1495886786 127304703,127328047,2017-05-27 12:22:39,">>127318183 THIS!!! MAN WAS MADE TO LIVE WITH A CAGE ON HIS COCK A COLLAR AROUND HIS NECK AND THE COCK OF THE STATE UP HIS ASS!!!!!",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495887759 127304703,127328358,2017-05-27 12:25:44,">>127328047 Exactly, without an authoritative government who would stop me from smoking weed?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495887944 127304703,127328787,2017-05-27 12:29:37,">>127328358 Exactly! Without an authoritative government who would stop me from eating too much? O-or tell me what do?!",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495888177 127304703,127329110,2017-05-27 12:32:40,">>127304986 Kek that image. You did good friend.",,Anonymous,1495371802730.jpg,d9GFGY1Y+gt+6L78F2Xijg==,PT,,1495888360 127304703,127329226,2017-05-27 12:33:41,">>127305008 You updated the image! Amazing anon thanks a lot",,Anonymous,1494414359191.png,A2Sf2d3PuRTCPfHDRBBiRg==,PT,,1495888421 127304703,127329277,2017-05-27 12:34:16,">>127328787 Clear proof we need a state so I can finally have a father fig- i mean prevent degeneracy!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495888456 127304703,127329405,2017-05-27 12:35:33,">>127329277 >mfw the most statist people I know have massive daddy issues everytime",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495888533 127304703,127329507,2017-05-27 12:36:24,">>127305621 ""Physical Removal, so to speak."" Make sure to tell him to search his name on YouTube and search Brent Ancap and Hoppewave",,Anonymous,1492276894030.jpg,RXlD7BGUuuZrEbju0nu4rA==,PT,,1495888584 127304703,127329575,2017-05-27 12:36:57,">>127329110 >>127329226 Right on.",,Anonymous,81801907_DC84_4D9B_8114_460F4FB6B14E_3416_00001038B39163DD_tmp.jpg,yCfnjOgEQjmoHPGPrT1rug==,US,,1495888617 127304703,127331022,2017-05-27 12:50:39,,,Anonymous,ancap_andy_commies_matt_furie.png,NN7furIBj4aVxZ0usDFpFQ==,US,,1495889439 127304703,127331362,2017-05-27 12:53:57,">>127318857 I think Maltabro is trying to say that the ultimate benefit of AnCapistan is freedom of association. Politics and security provision would cease to be a power struggle and would instead become a saleable market service (or service packs). There'd be hundreds of thousands of different packages catering to different ideologies, cultures, preferences and groups. Political strife and culture wars would end because there would be no state apparatus for political parties to fight for. Conservatives would get their own coverage by insurance companies that not only provided defense in a specific geographical area but also enforced contracts regarding behavior under said area (no homosexuality on common property--or even personal property, depending on the degree of traditionalism in demand--, no drugs, no ""degenerate behavior,"" etc.) and it would all be perfectly compatible with the libertarian ethic since there would be no coercion involved. Don't like a particular set of rules? Vote with your feet. Of course this wouldn't stop degenerates from existing, but at least they could live in their own cesspool and not disturb the rest of us civilized people. And since the state as we know it would cease to exist and the financial/cultural burden on the ""oppressor"" class of white, normative hetero families would disappear, this new world would certainly eliminate most degenerates just by eliminating the welfare state.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495889637 127304703,127333720,2017-05-27 13:15:49,,,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME_2_.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1495890949 127304703,127336201,2017-05-27 13:38:18,">>127304703 unpaid, voluntary bump",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495892298 127304703,127336586,2017-05-27 13:42:04,">>127336201 Bump for rightful liberty",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495892524 127304703,127337341,2017-05-27 13:49:29,One more time,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495892969 127304703,127337597,2017-05-27 13:51:57,So to speak.,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1495893117 127304703,127338778,2017-05-27 14:03:18,What was he thinking?,,Anonymous,IMG_2158.jpg,yzA5k7n6xO7PSigTObj2JA==,US,,1495893798 127304703,127338796,2017-05-27 14:03:27,">>127337597 so slow",,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,GB,,1495893807 127304703,127338943,2017-05-27 14:04:43,,,Anonymous,police-focus-image.jpg,FGBqIi+TtsQ8fP94lboeng==,GB,,1495893883 127304703,127339372,2017-05-27 14:08:23,">>127338778 Why the government hasn't lowered his damn taxes",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495894103 127304703,127339987,2017-05-27 14:14:18,">>127338778 >this federal faggot really thinks that his faggy death sentence will stop the militias >Waco was your bloody massacre,my act was our current declaration of Independence faggot",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495894458 127304703,127340356,2017-05-27 14:17:35,">>127329405 >mfw where is your fucking face fag?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495894655 127304703,127340455,2017-05-27 14:18:24,"When your land is overrun with shitskins, but that's okay because it wasn't real Libertarianism, so you move to somewhere with a stronger network of anti-immigration contracts, then your land is overrun shitskins, but that's okay because it wasn't real Libertarianism, so you move to somewhere with a stronger network of anti-immigration contracts, then your land is overrun shitskins, but that's okay because it wasn't real Libertarianism, so you move to somewhere with a stronger network of anti-immigration contracts, then your land is overrun shitskins, but that's okay because it wasn't real Libertarianism, so you move to somewhere with a stronger network of anti-immigration contracts, but then your land is overrun shitskins, BUT ITS NOT OKAY BECAUSE THERE IS NO MORE WHITES",,Anonymous,ancapball.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,US,,1495894704 127304703,127340486,2017-05-27 14:18:38,">>127340356 Pay-per-view.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495894718 127304703,127340733,2017-05-27 14:20:58,">>127340455 >When your land is overrun with shitskins, but that's okay because it wasn't real Libertarianism, so you move to somewhere with a stronger network of anti-immigration contracts end of the story",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495894858 127304703,127340868,2017-05-27 14:22:13,">>127340455 >>127340455 >When your land is overrun with shitskin who starve because there is no state to provide gibs and property violaters are shot on sight fixed",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495894933 127304703,127342053,2017-05-27 14:33:14,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1495895594 127304703,127342379,2017-05-27 14:36:20,">>127304703 I love these. Keep up the good work. We need more historical figures, like Pinochet, and a harkening back to a golden age, like the fifties.",,Anonymous,1488130474350.jpg,E0OVXs3P9Gddl4uD2ri0kg==,US,,1495895780 127304703,127342519,2017-05-27 14:37:46,"Since libertarians are non-interventionists, you support the Western nation's decision to no help Rhodesia in the Rhodesian Bush War, right?",,Anonymous,Rhodesian_reservists_on_patrol.jpg,UBqttwQGQ+g18ohJHAdlQQ==,GR,,1495895866 127304703,127342597,2017-05-27 14:38:35,">>127342519 Give me the sweet deets and I'll let you know what I think.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495895915 127304703,127342625,2017-05-27 14:38:49,">>127342379 Yeah I'd like to do some of that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495895929 127304703,127342639,2017-05-27 14:38:58,">>127304703 Join your local anticommunist death squad.",,Anonymous,C32BbzvWcAImrAT.png,w2uaC+YkHjFH2ikohe9PRQ==,US,,1495895938 127304703,127342755,2017-05-27 14:40:04,">>127342519 Free trade. If they want to buy our arms and maybe contract a PMC or two, fine by me.",,Anonymous,RhoRecruitingPoster.jpg,v5KPcyvPGUsA9PT4UGaPzg==,GB,,1495896004 127304703,127342816,2017-05-27 14:40:42,">>127342519 libertarians are stooges for the military-industrial complex",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495896042 127304703,127342965,2017-05-27 14:42:07,">>127342519 Also, you'll notice how much help statistics were (except the kikes, ironically)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495896127 127304703,127342982,2017-05-27 14:42:15,">>127342625 We need to become less bookish and more active. The natsocs have hitlers europe to point to and say, ""look it worked."" We need some period and place in history where right wing libertarian policies were implemented successfully and everyone was beter off because of it. Pinochet's Chile is a good example, but can you think of any others?",,Anonymous,gadsdenagainsttyranny.png,Ix7wT3GUKY+RF/kRTeyP2A==,US,,1495896135 127304703,127343801,2017-05-27 14:50:02,">>127342816 >Random Assertion Citation needed. Not an argument.",,Anonymous,Commie.png,ZV5mi+8NZ7b/+VY/uaNo/g==,US,,1495896602 127304703,127343830,2017-05-27 14:50:18,">>127304722 rothbard didn't support closed borders retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495896618 127304703,127343952,2017-05-27 14:51:27,">>127342755 So would you be fine with selling weapons to the Saudis who then give them to ISIS and other terrorist groups?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1495896687 127304703,127344010,2017-05-27 14:51:58,">>127340455 >Hasn't read Hoppe",,Anonymous,Hoppian Snake.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,US,,1495896718 127304703,127344117,2017-05-27 14:52:58,">>127343830 >He hasn't read Nations by Consent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495896778 127304703,127344259,2017-05-27 14:54:22,">>127343952 Not if ISIS is our enemy in your scenario. Though we'd probably not be allied with Saudis either, if that was the case (in the scenario). Your scenario is common in the confused realm of modern statecraft, but would be very unlikely to arise under an AnCap / RIght Libertarian System",,Anonymous,1495316908877.jpg,CvBolSq/1jvFsXM6aKs3Fw==,US,,1495896862 127304703,127344481,2017-05-27 14:56:37,">>127343952 Nope, can sell to whoever I fkn choose. Don't know if you've noticed, but in the two examples you gave, it was states actions - US government sells to Saudi, US and UK govts didn't back the rhodies. Meanwhile check what free men were doing, look up the crippled eagles for example",,Anonymous,crippled_eagle_tile_coaster.jpg,FGWajzhQil4RC/wlPazblg==,GB,,1495896997 127304703,127344543,2017-05-27 14:57:08,">>127342519 If the intervention is voluntarily asked for, why not?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495897028 127304703,127344716,2017-05-27 14:58:53,">>127343801 do you have a personal issue with defense contractors and (((banks))) buying off politicians for more contracts and money and literally work with the pentagon on creating more conflicts through revolving door corruption and vested interests? if you dont you're a stooge .t constitutionalist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495897133 127304703,127346175,2017-05-27 15:12:13,,,Anonymous,madforpatches.png,ye+O8XktxoJbSe4Gig84/A==,US,,1495897933 127304703,127346662,2017-05-27 15:16:51,You guys should really read Reactionary Liberty. Dude wrote a magnificent book.,,Anonymous,1494369450262.jpg,QXG0W7mxdnA6s/TdSy75+w==,PT,,1495898211 127304703,127346952,2017-05-27 15:19:23,">>127344716 >My life sucks because of (((Them))), honest.",,Anonymous,Fuck NatSoc.png,CLe8g50CyHO5lt8gK4rDYQ==,US,,1495898363 127304703,127347406,2017-05-27 15:23:56,">>127346952 >i love being taxed for wars that dont benefit me dik cheney pls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495898636 127304703,127347654,2017-05-27 15:26:16,">>127346952 >i claim to hate big government but like it when its extremely corrupt and creates wars for you know who complete stooge you are",,Anonymous,Dwight.jpg,5ltkI2nMsx2RoRDo/Phx4Q==,US,,1495898776 127304703,127347683,2017-05-27 15:26:34,">>127304703 Hello guys, your problem is that you dont understand that Might is Right and logical conclusions cannot disprove that under any circumstances. Now deal with it. Fucking anarchists....",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495898794 127304703,127348099,2017-05-27 15:30:20,">>127304722 >Hans Hermann Hoppe is oposing open borders. Are you maximaly retarded? His ideology is against the state, so there arent borders at all, other then private ones, witch arent open.... ok, I didnt say anything.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495899020 127304703,127348154,2017-05-27 15:30:46,">>127304703 Do Libertarians believe in the right of conquest? Like for example (re-)colonizing Africa without giving a shit about niggers *coughphysicalremovalcough* cuz they're 70 IQ subhumans?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495899046 127304703,127348632,2017-05-27 15:35:04,">>127344481 >US government sells to Saudi That was indeed government action >US and UK govts didn't back the rhodies How is that an action of the governments? They decided to take a non interventionist stance on this specific instance, to not back Rhodesia. Individuals are free to join or volunteer to any military group, but libertarian governments are supposed to be non-interventionist. And apparently the volunteers weren't enough to win the war.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1495899304 127304703,127349903,2017-05-27 15:46:49,,,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1495900009 127304703,127351405,2017-05-27 16:01:17,">>127305008 THANK YOU FOUNDING FATHER",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495900877 127304703,127351500,2017-05-27 16:02:10,">>127305008 >>127351405 Also add the nooses on the landers.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495900930 127304703,127351993,2017-05-27 16:06:51,"To all the faggot ""nat-soc"" idiots here",,Anonymous,socialism2.jpg,xgnmALewKaYfQ5xSgQrhWQ==,US,,1495901211 127304703,127352149,2017-05-27 16:08:24,">>127351500 No problem, btw I'm loving ""founding father"" totally Stokes my ego. I originally cut the nooses cuz I thought it'd be too ugly next to the oven but if Slovakia says so then it will be done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495901304 127304703,127352522,2017-05-27 16:11:50,">>127344716 The politicians are supposed to serve the people, the bankers are supposed to die for manipulating currency, the weapon dealers are supposed to maximize their profits. The politicians are the truly despicably evil ones in your example. Try again.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495901510 127304703,127352616,2017-05-27 16:12:50,">>127342625 Any ideas my dude? I got some photoshop skills and also am in Anticom which already spreads libertarian propaganda.",,Anonymous,antifaposters.png,5mNXOCRHC6Ib+b8TdQqd6A==,US,,1495901570 127304703,127352905,2017-05-27 16:15:34,">>127347683 >>127348099 You're delusional and an open fabricator of lies. You're going to be harvested for your organs and your bones will be ground up and used to make concrete for the roads we won't even use out of sheer spite. Resistance is futile. Might makes right. Liberty or death.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495901734 127304703,127352966,2017-05-27 16:16:15,">>127348154 Since they're NAP violators, sure.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495901775 127304703,127353090,2017-05-27 16:17:22,">>127352616 I was thinking maybe some of that 50s looking vector art of classy white guys I'm suits. I think I have an image related on my PC hold on a sec",,Anonymous,arab_ball.png,uRNuxpmz3ZZ7Tesh3MVZQg==,US,,1495901842 127304703,127353093,2017-05-27 16:17:22,">>127352616 Black bloc is a tactic, not a group.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495901842 127304703,127353211,2017-05-27 16:18:30,">>127352149 It's good, my man. You think you could do an ANCAPISTAN one with the whole LRG squad?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495901910 127304703,127353223,2017-05-27 16:18:40,"Hows it going reddit! Anyone know some really good subreddits that I could get into?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495901920 127304703,127353443,2017-05-27 16:20:30,">>127353223 I hear r/cuckhold is pretty good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495902030 127304703,127353969,2017-05-27 16:25:34,">>127352616 Not specifically this image but maybe somthing like it is what i thought when you mentioned 50s stuff. Maybe a family man holding a rifle and a bible with his family behind him. that kinda imagery. >>127353211 What do you mean specifically?",,Anonymous,libertarians-diligently-plotting-to-take-over-the-world-and-leave-4616504.png,Y1UTLSIoMvBqg8kHAa6EvA==,US,,1495902334 127304703,127354521,2017-05-27 16:30:23,">>127352905 1. Anarchy is if there is no state 2. Due to the ""superiority distrebution"" there will be a very superior person 3. He will become king and there will be a state believing in anarchy is believing in some sort of powerblance.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495902623 127304703,127356497,2017-05-27 16:47:09,,,Anonymous,1485100431692.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,US,,1495903629 127304703,127356769,2017-05-27 16:49:30,">>127354521 If a coercive central authority is formed, we will aiborne oven them and start anew. More struggle than the NeetSocs could give you in a millennium.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495903770 127304703,127357119,2017-05-27 16:52:36,">>127353969 Me, you, Maltabro, Portubro, and the rest of the squad sitting around a table in a gambling hall being served by T H I C C Brazilians. Kind of like Please-Clapperton's backdrops, but less faggotry and more /lrg/.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495903956 127304703,127357283,2017-05-27 16:53:52,">>127357119 I like that idea a lot!",,Anonymous,1494204773494m.jpg,rrjdfCblopbAG7edEPbMYQ==,PT,,1495904032 127304703,127359249,2017-05-27 17:10:17,">>127357119 nice, i'll see what i can put together.",,Anonymous,Natsoc_likes_to_be_pegged.png,mZfB7O9H1mG5HqUJqqr9rA==,US,,1495905017 127304703,127359731,2017-05-27 17:14:29,">>127304935 >>127304938 >>127304939 >>127304942",,Anonymous,1485902023428.jpg,0hfe03MnBZYyxw0d4JVjDg==,BE,,1495905269 127304703,127359921,2017-05-27 17:16:10,">cuckpitalism this semen slurping ideology is not for me",,Anonymous,StrasseriteNatSoc_is_best_NatSoc.png,JZTbHesr/t/IMb2ro0esGQ==,NL,,1495905370 127304703,127360043,2017-05-27 17:17:16,">>127304703 Every man deserves their right to true liberty /pol/ General Discord: swp3YFF",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495905436 127304703,127360879,2017-05-27 17:24:33,">>127359921 You're just a racist commie. Fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495905873 127304703,127361266,2017-05-27 17:27:58,">>127359921 Socialism is parasitic and expansionist by is warped nature, it will inevitably turn into marxist communism. this is the case everytime socialism in any form is enacted. even pic relateds form of socialism.",,Anonymous,Socialism.jpg,ljjd9De3PfwKVpQ0db6hUQ==,US,,1495906078 127304703,127361436,2017-05-27 17:29:30,">>127342982 USA, 1779 - 1812",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495906170 127304703,127361926,2017-05-27 17:33:49,">>127361436 Well, that didn't last long...",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495906429 127304703,127362200,2017-05-27 17:36:22,">>127361436 This. You could maybe also make a case for Switzerland?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495906582 127304703,127362215,2017-05-27 17:36:28,">>127361266 >kindergarten humor cant say hitlerite scum deserve much better",,Anonymous,1472274719585.jpg,eTPHEaYE2koLMWsr+y8tXw==,NL,,1495906588 127304703,127362783,2017-05-27 17:41:34,">>127362215 So just to be clear, you're not gonna deny that even national socialism will become just another marxist communist shithole?",,Anonymous,McGas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1495906894 127304703,127363113,2017-05-27 17:44:33,">>127362783 ofcourse im denying that",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495907073 127304703,127363404,2017-05-27 17:47:13,">>127361926 Neither did Nazi Germany.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495907233 127304703,127363671,2017-05-27 17:49:55,">>127363113 Yeah ok, explain how it will be a non-expansive, and maintain an ethno state, you're gonna need alot of workers, the more the better. where are you gonna get them from? explain to me so I know you're not just /leftypol/ cucks failing to meme themselves into /pol/'s welcoming embrace. you're a literal communist.",,Anonymous,Tucker.png,G3ntbYA6wn77pdLZEi56hw==,US,,1495907395 127304703,127364938,2017-05-27 18:01:04,">>127363671 >Yeah ok, explain how it will be a non-expansive, and maintain an ethno state, you're gonna need alot of workers, the more the better. where are you gonna get them from? from my territory, not that hard. Strasserism is not internationalist >you're a literal communist. never said that",,Anonymous,250f404a3360e763f693889e83e44ae6.jpg,+jG1B6fLrHQdRJdG2KKO4A==,NL,,1495908064 127304703,127365364,2017-05-27 18:05:08,">from my territory, not that hard. Strasserism is not internationalist brilliant, its so simple ""we'll just do it"".WOW Fuck libertarians, I'm a strasserfag now. NazBol is cool, fuck cuckitalism",,Anonymous,17332877_276912992733774_2566291513965281280_n.jpg,fbAZdFiRQINL9jetnr47ug==,US,,1495908308 127304703,127365537,2017-05-27 18:06:55,">>127364938 do you like my DANK lefty memes BRO. fuck LOLSPERGTARDISTANS amiright?",,Anonymous,nazbol_pepe_by_comradepepe-da66byy.jpg,8BY/JoML2B7AWGNhj4/nzw==,US,,1495908415 127304703,127365812,2017-05-27 18:09:34,">>127365537 are you alright there bud? You seem upset",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495908574 127304703,127366024,2017-05-27 18:11:41,">>127365364 it really is THAT simple",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495908701 127304703,127366301,2017-05-27 18:14:13,">>127365812 I'm just having a hard time coping with realising that i was wrong this whole time, that having to download all these completely DANK lefty memes.",,Anonymous,12930899_212318589132035_1370569649_n.jpg,jLJYHaxPM5NXvIPmn9PPpA==,US,,1495908853 127304703,127366673,2017-05-27 18:17:20,">>127353969 Can anyone do something with this? Preferably some retrowave or black and yellow filter with a quote about protecting private property or removing commies?",,Anonymous,1486790602955.jpg,jzwCvKFSa8Ev72xSE319Og==,US,,1495909040 127304703,127366798,2017-05-27 18:18:25,">>127366673 I'll give it a shot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495909105 127304703,127366862,2017-05-27 18:18:49,">>127366301 sad to see you go an a ramble, i hope you get over it",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495909129 127304703,127366904,2017-05-27 18:19:02,">>127366301 Is this nazbol thing just like a big joke? I dont get it.",,Anonymous,whydidntyoubuythepatches.png,70s/s0lMzrGdrY3+qX0Ceg==,US,,1495909142 127304703,127366974,2017-05-27 18:19:38,">>127366904 its a russian thing",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495909178 127304703,127368128,2017-05-27 18:30:48,">>127304722 There is literally Nothing libertarian about This post. Right-Libertarianism is about creating a voluntary society based with unregulated capitalism",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1495909848 127304703,127369324,2017-05-27 18:42:23,">>127368128 Paleolibertarian AnCap is the master race. I agree that we should have a voluntary society. We just don't want to be forced to associate with marxists, open borders cucks and homos",,Anonymous,1.png,gmW5uUlGJFJAAIIY1Mw7sw==,US,,1495910543 127304703,127370912,2017-05-27 18:56:53,">>127356769 if you agree that people will try to form authoritys, why do you call yourself an anarchist? (I am not a NatSoc though, to be honest its kinda sad, my political system is ""formless power"", its exactly what it sounds like)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495911413 127304703,127371037,2017-05-27 18:57:58,">started browsing /pol/ as a Johnson tier libertine/""libertarian"" >quickly shift to national conservatism, shill for cancer like state surveillance and mixed market economics >get into lifting and get /fit/ >2 years later /fraud/ for a while and decide to try tren >4 months of the mental sides of tren somehow make me a paleolib/ancap, am 100% sure that the way trenbolone changed my attitude towards the world in general changed my ideology since nothing else in this time period significantly influenced my worldview What does this say about our ideology?",,Anonymous,1486395066839.jpg,K3bcA7ciwaSMETSvD5ASew==,GB,,1495911478 127304703,127371207,2017-05-27 18:59:33,">>127304703 >PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS Pls add NatSoc fags. They are no different from commie scum. >muh socialism for white will work for sure, even though Nazi Germany was devastedted economically Yeah, sure, here's your one way ticket for a helicopter ride.",,Anonymous,1495455471456.png,h7n5ES6sCOZEvCLTG8ETpw==,US,,1495911573 127304703,127371322,2017-05-27 19:00:28,">>127371207 Only if we also include anime fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495911628 127304703,127371486,2017-05-27 19:01:57,">>127371037 glad you got out of the shit-lib zone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495911717 127304703,127371550,2017-05-27 19:02:23,">>127371322 That would be violation of the NAP. Are you just larping as a libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495911743 127304703,127371696,2017-05-27 19:03:34,">>127359921 >that pic hahahahahaha gross aftbqhfam-a-lam-a-ding-dong",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495911814 127304703,127372052,2017-05-27 19:06:41,">>127371550 Fuck off you fucking nerd.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495912001 127304703,127372172,2017-05-27 19:07:49,">>127318183 I don't care whether it's natural; it's immoral.",,Anonymous,IMG_2375.jpg,jSUZj2mTry2k1IoHta9WIw==,US,,1495912069 127304703,127372726,2017-05-27 19:12:46,">>127370912 Maybe I should elaborate. Formless power means that there is no ultimate political system, nor an optimal political way. 90% of a political system is to ensure the sleep of the slave caste. The slave caste is about 95% of the poeple and it will allways stay this way. The top 5% (maybe even less) are constantly fighting over the power to control the rest. Thats basicly it. Economical system to enforce on the slave caste is to dependent on the current time to be optimized and war socialism may even be better then capitalism in war times. But law is only used to ensure the tyrany on the slave caste and fighting of the guys who are not in the slave caste. But why is there no ideal way to do so? Its again to dependent on the current events and public opinion. >But what is the conclusion? How should one act when following this ""ideology""? ""Strive for power Enforce your ideals Hold the power"" Would be one possible conclusion, but again. Higher people are individual, there may be different conclusions, the most retarded sounding and general advice is: ""do your thing"". But when this is aplied to higher people, its not about drinking beer or producing shitty mixtapes.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495912366 127304703,127372797,2017-05-27 19:13:27,">>127371207 It's more the Strasserists and Nazbols that need to be mashed. They need to be reminded of the night of the long knives.",,Anonymous,IMG_2219.jpg,d1H9iOKg//b2sg0plYhdaA==,US,,1495912407 127304703,127373064,2017-05-27 19:16:03,">>127372172 go pray to your god faggot.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495912563 127304703,127373326,2017-05-27 19:18:42,">>127371037 Where the hell were you scoring tren in the UK?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495912722 127304703,127373481,2017-05-27 19:20:04,">>127372726 You read Might makes Right?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495912804 127304703,127374869,2017-05-27 19:32:38,">>127371207 this. a thousand fucking times this. this whole ""we can get along with nazis"" bullshit should also earn fake anarchists a fucking helicopter ride with cantwell being the first chucked out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495913558 127304703,127374870,2017-05-27 19:32:38,Guys I think we should add a FAQ section that sends the reader to a chapter of Reactionary Liberty. It really covers the entire thing and each chapter is 10 pages long average so even the most suspicious NatSoc can get a quick rundown on why we're right. Thoughts?,,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495913558 127304703,127375508,2017-05-27 19:38:19,">>127374870 what part? i havent read yet but i hosted a download link for it, https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495913899 127304703,127376759,2017-05-27 19:49:17,">>127375508 Thanks for posting the link. I got the book in physical form in the meantime but it was your link that persuaded me. Here's the template for the post: FAQ -- Every question you could have about Anarcho-capitalism, answered in one single book. https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/ >Why reactionary libertarianism and not Fascism? Introduction >How would ancaps deal with cultural Marxists and other subversive attitudes? Chapters 4 and 5 >But about what about limited government and constitutions? Chapters 6 and 7 >But what about the poor, the sick and the elderly? Chapter 10 >You guys are globalists and support open borders right? Chapter 13 >Without the state regulating the market, who will stop corporations? Chapter 3 >Okay, you've convinced me. Now what do we do? Chapters 11, 12, 14 and 15.",,Anonymous,1490294013645.jpg,eRJvmmQKqYQhpJd5Ng9CcQ==,PT,,1495914557 127304703,127377056,2017-05-27 19:51:43,">>127376759 Damn, I haven't read this yet. Bookmarked it and forgot. This is the one hoppe recommended to some anon, right?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495914703 127304703,127377360,2017-05-27 19:54:16,">>127376759 awesome, I have to read it now >>127377056 it was a screenshot of an email allegedly to hoppe, no confirmation. the email adresses were blurred.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495914856 127304703,127377376,2017-05-27 19:54:22,">>127377056 Yes it is. It's fantastic I've been reading it non-stop since I got it. It's up there with Triple H's masterpiece. We should also add to the FAQ: >But what about monopolies and cartels? Chapter 9",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495914862 127304703,127377382,2017-05-27 19:54:24,">>127369324 Fuckin' A. Much appreciated my dude. Have this.",,Anonymous,1495854344231.jpg,5nO/oFBM2ssQCiJ3PK8xjw==,US,,1495914864 127304703,127377496,2017-05-27 19:55:18,">>127377382 i'd do an edgy quote but i couldn't come up with anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495914918 127304703,127378312,2017-05-27 20:02:04,">>127377496 Now we can use it for all kinds of different quotes.",,Anonymous,1488129841017.png,HuXB70DAr3LU0JXXcfMGRw==,US,,1495915324 127304703,127378688,2017-05-27 20:05:22,">>127373326 it's piss easy to get if you hang around on the right forums pharma IGF-1 and some of the very new research chems/peptides/SARMs like anamorelin are the only things I have any difficulty getting my hands on >tfw buying gear through the grey/black market means no govt getting their hands on my money >tfw unintentionally agorist",,Anonymous,1488347371552.jpg,Y1UlxPdPLf6SEkHy3pz4Ag==,GB,,1495915522 127304703,127378876,2017-05-27 20:06:54,">>127307348 Legitimate questions. Someone please respond.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1495915614 127304703,127380375,2017-05-27 20:18:14,,,Anonymous,birb.png,ExlandG1mVR1CBb19F7uuQ==,NZ,,1495916294 127304703,127380424,2017-05-27 20:18:41,">>127307348 >>127378876 OK I'll have a go at #1 (although I'm ancap). Firstly remember that in this society there are no gibs, no affirmative action, voluntary association only. You literally have to stand on your own two feet. This is most compatible with traditionalism, as those cultures that can't compete on a true level playing field will die out. Reliance on the family unit grows as, again, no welfare etc, so as in traditional societies, you look after the kids when you are young, then they return the favour when you're old. In ancap you also have the option of covenants, contractually based groups that come together to live a certain way. A covenant could be based on white traditional values, with those violating the contract being excluded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495916321 127304703,127380505,2017-05-27 20:19:14,">>127307348 >>127378876 read hoppe nigga covenant communties",,Anonymous,1491703234637.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,GB,,1495916354 127304703,127380788,2017-05-27 20:21:24,">>127307348 >>127378876 Read the new FAQ >>127376759",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495916484 127304703,127380951,2017-05-27 20:22:44,"Guys, what do you think about faggots? I think it's okay if they fuck each other in the butt on their own property, but if I see one on my lawn I hope he's prepared for heavy fire.",,Anonymous,1484241649122.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,ES,,1495916564 127304703,127381411,2017-05-27 20:26:41,"Help me out with a bit of cognitive dissonance I've encountered /lrg/. I consider myself a libertarian, but perhaps I'm not as far right as many of you are. I think that the government exists only to protect the people and carry out a few tasks which would fail under the free market. For example, I think that some regulatory institutions, such as the FDA, are generally good even though they use tax money. Additionally, I think services such as the police, firefighters, and road construction would be disastrous if left to market forces. I don't want to ride the McDonald's (TM) road to work every day and be required to pick up a small fry as toll. However, if I can say that these specific services are deserving of tax dollars because they protect the public, how can I then turn around and say that healthcare shouldn't be paid for by taxes? It just seems hypocritical to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495916801 127304703,127381436,2017-05-27 20:27:00,">>127329507 Yes please tell him to do these things >>127305621",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495916820 127304703,127381866,2017-05-27 20:30:47,">>127361436 Can i get more info on this anon? Why did it end 1812?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495917047 127304703,127382636,2017-05-27 20:38:11,">>127361436 Got any Art from the time period? And why only until 1812? What happened after the war of 1812?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495917491 127304703,127383027,2017-05-27 20:41:46,">>127380951 >>127304935",,Anonymous,1488122560369.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1495917706 127304703,127383293,2017-05-27 20:44:17,">>127382636 >art Well there is the big one we use...",,Anonymous,800px-Gadsden_flag.svg.png,OEPr9HNu6V2zm3cLLPAcSA==,GB,,1495917857 127304703,127383782,2017-05-27 20:48:34,">>127383293 We're working on paleo-libertarian propaganda that harkens back tot he golden days of liberty policies. That aint gonna help us anymore than it already has.",,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL2Rpc2NvcmQuc3RvcmFnZS5nb29nbGVhcGlzLmNvbS9hdHRhY2htZW50cy8yOTQ5NDY0ODk3NTM1MzQ0NjUvMzE3NzY0NTk5MDM2Mzc5MTM2L0NPTU1VTklTTVVOQUNDRVBUQUJMRTMucG5nIn0.JiEMrlKfo2P7icaAdmFIXQdVs6Y.png,fVvXVp4AVuGJn1yH8pi9Jg==,US,,1495918114 127304703,127384108,2017-05-27 20:51:45,">>127381866 >>127382636 Might have been referring to this.The war of 1812 is where federal taxes, centralised military, and public debt started in the USA. Lead to the 2nd national bank, leading to the fed. https://reason.com/archives/2015/03/08/war-of-1812-changed-american-government",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495918305 127304703,127384261,2017-05-27 20:53:23,">>127381866 >>127382636 It ended when the Articles were dropped in favor of the Constitution. The Constitution was an enormous power grab. Read the 7th chapter of Reactionary Liberty.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495918403 127304703,127384978,2017-05-27 21:00:42,Why dont you fucks stop being tolerant fags and just become fascists? No one is going to tread on you if together we tread on minorities and women. Think about it cucks.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495918842 127304703,127385159,2017-05-27 21:02:42,">>127384978 >>127380177",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495918962 127304703,127385412,2017-05-27 21:05:07,">>127384978 >WhY DoNt yOU JoIn OuR BoOtlICkeR sYstEM fRiENds Fascists are just as poisonous as the communists and the socialists. He'll, you're no different. You'll be the last ones to go on the Day of the Helicopter, but you'll go nevertheless.",,Anonymous,1492890406010.jpg,b9E/qJEpZhNGawg62bpniA==,PT,,1495919107 127304703,127385755,2017-05-27 21:08:17,">>127385412 You moron. Libertarainsm will never work in our modern world since only white males are self reliant. Have fun in 50 years when minorities all vote for socialists and take your shit for reperations.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495919297 127304703,127385851,2017-05-27 21:09:14,">>127385755 >vote you got the wrong guys.",,Anonymous,1486919238234.jpg,9gyE1VA8W22fyIFoaV+LHw==,US,,1495919354 127304703,127386551,2017-05-27 21:16:00,">>127385755 The free market is teaching other people to be self reliant as well. Even in Africa and other third world shitholes private schools are increasing in popularity and vastly out competing government schools. In the long run, the market benefits. You want to enslave whites to socialism and to the state, moron. >Have fun in 50 years when minorities all vote for socialists and take your shit for reperations ...which is why we need less state and more freedom, freedom from those people.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495919760 127304703,127386951,2017-05-27 21:19:54,">>127385851 Is that a legit triple h quote?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495919994 127304703,127387445,2017-05-27 21:24:24,">>127386551 Fascism isnt socialism. Read up on some mussolini dumbass. Ancedotes are stats and the stats are (at least in the west) that minorities and women overwhemingly vote for socialism. If we had a dictatorship we could have a free market guy or group totally in control of the country without women and chimps fucking up the system.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495920264 127304703,127387458,2017-05-27 21:24:31,">>127386951 Hans-Hermann Hoppe, lurk moar",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495920271 127304703,127388045,2017-05-27 21:30:15,">>127387458 Thanks, faggot. Will do.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495920615 127304703,127388311,2017-05-27 21:32:55,>>127386951,,Anonymous,1488751476585.jpg,iCwFn2VLpIwPMP4W/nDGrw==,GB,,1495920775 127304703,127389976,2017-05-27 21:49:48,Bamp,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495921788 127304703,127390800,2017-05-27 21:57:53,>>127369324,,Anonymous,meanstoliberty.png,l9r5fqslYtk9wkuthEAvGw==,US,,1495922273 127304703,127390923,2017-05-27 21:59:05,">>127390800 V. Nice mate",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495922345 127304703,127392025,2017-05-27 22:09:19,">>127390923 Thanks man, I put a period where there was supposed to be a comma. It was gonna bother the shit out of me. Here's the final edit.",,Anonymous,means2liberty.png,JYrrPaelloSeVhH45ZHWXw==,US,,1495922959 127304703,127392314,2017-05-27 22:12:06,">>127392025 Final edit.",,Anonymous,meanstooliberty.png,+96xCoViSfFoxbR7hRv0cQ==,US,,1495923126 127304703,127392566,2017-05-27 22:14:41,">>127392314 why can't you make the letters black with a yellow outline? pain in the ass to read",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495923281 127304703,127393099,2017-05-27 22:20:21,>>127392566,,Anonymous,meanstolibertyaltedit.png,voRz/UEnLq9gQm87bocq5g==,US,,1495923621 127304703,127393160,2017-05-27 22:21:10,">>127392566 I cant decide which I like better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495923670 127304703,127393954,2017-05-27 22:29:04,">>127318183 Prepare to be removed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495924144 127304703,127393998,2017-05-27 22:29:36,">>127393099 Aaaand saved...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495924176 127304703,127395079,2017-05-27 22:40:57,">>127393998 LAST FUCKING EDIT",,Anonymous,means_to_liberty.png,xUjTEwGhRz51DLacYZ2KXA==,US,,1495924857 127304703,127395812,2017-05-27 22:47:47,">>127395079 Where's the quote from?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495925267 127399764,127399764,2017-05-27 23:27:57,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ Not expecting much posting today so this thread will serve as a propaganda poster rather than debate or discussion.",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,means_to_liberty.png,xUjTEwGhRz51DLacYZ2KXA==,US,,1495927677 127399764,127399856,2017-05-27 23:28:49,,,Anonymous,1495139635058.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,US,,1495927729 127399764,127399902,2017-05-27 23:29:21,,,Anonymous,1495880905217.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1495927761 127399764,127399969,2017-05-27 23:30:09,,,Anonymous,1495141355721.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1495927809 127399764,127400024,2017-05-27 23:30:46,">>127399764 Reminder that you're a moral relativist if you believe non-physical interactions between people can morally legitimately be responded to with physical force. Reminder that if you're a relativist you should kill yourself for the benefit of all other actual humans.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495927846 127399764,127400026,2017-05-27 23:30:46,,,Anonymous,1495659083200.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495927846 127399764,127400189,2017-05-27 23:32:18,,,Anonymous,1495882131343.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1495927938 127399764,127400278,2017-05-27 23:33:14,>>127399764,,Anonymous,Have an upboat.png,8G14IlRxd+CXsNSWnLM2yA==,US,,1495927994 127399764,127400296,2017-05-27 23:33:20,,,Anonymous,1495882305757.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1495928000 127399764,127400431,2017-05-27 23:34:50,,,Anonymous,frogfrog.png,pfIyapjyHK6bEEQq/wbtPw==,US,,1495928090 127399764,127400474,2017-05-27 23:35:09,">hey guys lets allow jews to do business in our country lower our wages ruin our land and then flee, avoiding all responsibility",,Anonymous,1372688726890.png,cjlbje89WyeSLQbfkQXpIQ==,US,,1495928109 127399764,127400496,2017-05-27 23:35:29,,,Anonymous,1494347669069.jpg,6p8A3ONK155dtAzanIarEg==,US,,1495928129 127399764,127400499,2017-05-27 23:35:31,Ubuötte threäb,,Anonymous,IMG_4781.jpg,KdP7ZkMoEreIkgICMOO7sA==,US,,1495928131 127399764,127400550,2017-05-27 23:36:04,">>127400496 This is what happens when you have free markets instead of communism. The bread outnumbers you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495928164 127399764,127400586,2017-05-27 23:36:26,">>127400474 >lower our wages Do you understand anything about economics at all?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495928186 127399764,127400600,2017-05-27 23:36:34,">>127399764 Libertarians are 95% bubble boy suburbanfags living in a fantasy world where automation isn't a thing, niggers don't require physical removal, and mindless consumerism hasn't destroyed the collective conciousness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495928194 127399764,127400619,2017-05-27 23:36:47,,,Anonymous,6051f15ff5524cd5bceb2997202a2f44.jpg,KtjRPkbEtFgvGu/VxKWIQQ==,US,,1495928207 127399764,127400632,2017-05-27 23:36:58,">>127400474 Fine, nationalize the economy and kick out all jews because they are subversive and communist and will always ruin your libertarian social order. Now whats your argument?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495928218 127399764,127400703,2017-05-27 23:37:41,">>127400586 >allowing companies to set up shop in USA and import and sell chinese goods instead of paying US workers a decent wage isnt a libertarian principle",,Anonymous,1417385191419.jpg,SGyOgp2KygMAO5g2ybq4Yw==,US,,1495928261 127399764,127400723,2017-05-27 23:37:49,,,Anonymous,CIA.jpg,ljLQzz0+2db7rJGNV5sPSQ==,US,,1495928269 127399764,127400726,2017-05-27 23:37:52,">>127400600 If automation is a bad thing than so are hammers and nails, levers, saws, and literally *ALL* forms of human capital.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495928272 127399764,127400738,2017-05-27 23:37:57,">>127399764 Beserk likes cocks and ALSO BUY HIS PATCHES GOYIM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495928277 127399764,127400829,2017-05-27 23:38:47,(((Libertarianism))),,Anonymous,_.png,xZRxt3TOdF4lJeCxS6ej4g==,BR,,1495928327 127399764,127400834,2017-05-27 23:38:52,">>127400600 Niggers do require physical removal and consumerism isn't paleo-libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495928332 127399764,127400875,2017-05-27 23:39:24,"ALABAMA SUCKS ASS, PLEASE FUCK MY ASS",,Lord Joe,,,US,,1495928364 127399764,127400877,2017-05-27 23:39:24,,,Anonymous,408cc63ab9e1e5fdff2e21d3f88d2011.jpg,inNFHvQK0lc0RhzISZfsvQ==,US,,1495928364 127399764,127400935,2017-05-27 23:39:57,">>127400726 There's a difference between mechanization and automation. One allows the effective redistribution of unskilled labor to assembly line positions and compensates increased productivity with increased demand, the other completely replaces unskilled labor in every facet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495928397 127399764,127400968,2017-05-27 23:40:17,Reminder that Alabama is shit.,,Anonymous,Shitstate.png,pMzOJYME5l3RgnGsRunpfA==,US,,1495928417 127399764,127401020,2017-05-27 23:40:49,">>127400703 You're a producer of a tiny number of goods. You're the consumer of a thousand. When there's more competition in a labor market, ceteris paribus you can generally always expect higher productivity in an economy as a result insofar as that market is concerned, meaning higher supply and cheaper goods. Which you benefit from. Monstrously. It's why you live a more wealthy life than 98% of the rest of the population of the world.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495928449 127399764,127401088,2017-05-27 23:41:22,">>127400935 No - it's capital. From an economics perspective - which is WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT - it's not different at all.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495928482 127399764,127401108,2017-05-27 23:41:35,"Libertarianism is cool and all, but patches are the final redpill",,James_Coney,buythemgy.png,nxNyPIHFrVxk0jDVRARkJA==,US,,1495928495 127399764,127401216,2017-05-27 23:42:39,">>127401108 >",,Lord Joe,buythemgoyim.png,iee4cBXzZZQYjYVArukP8Q==,US,,1495928559 127399764,127401243,2017-05-27 23:42:55,Reminder that God no real,,I'm Going Athiest,IAmEuphoric2.png,M+2dP8qt2bGErm0m1iz/tA==,US,,1495928575 127399764,127401264,2017-05-27 23:43:06,>>127401108,,Anonymous,doitheretic.png,EC8NdIyE38ikU5+7AUH76Q==,US,,1495928586 127399764,127401291,2017-05-27 23:43:21,,,I'm Going Athiest,OyVeeeeey.png,paZjlDqOwZEMfIcquIJUmw==,US,,1495928601 127399764,127401434,2017-05-27 23:44:45,,,Lord Joe,AC-Uncle.png,RCYxMsx4dsCyW+Ex1G/owQ==,US,,1495928685 127399764,127401520,2017-05-27 23:45:33,We need libertarianismism so that my small business can advertise on national monuments,,Oy vey I want shekels for patches goyim,MTJAMES.jpg,eAlxPvTy63/7m6BM3YMFfg==,US,,1495928733 127399764,127401619,2017-05-27 23:46:46,fucking do it faggots,,Anonymous,james.png,0F77y3X7yzk5rPYgQ/RZgA==,US,,1495928806 127399764,127401631,2017-05-27 23:46:53,This has devolved into shitposting and semi-gay shitposting...,,Lord Joe,,,US,,1495928813 127399764,127401651,2017-05-27 23:47:05,,,Oy vey I want shekels for patches goyim,AKAnticom.png,UbWn1v0gTk3Ayl/rMep69A==,US,,1495928825 127399764,127401701,2017-05-27 23:47:31,">>127399764 ""board of peace"" huh? That phrase bears a striking resemblance to another phrase I see floating around. Does ""religion of peace"" ring any bells for anyone? Nothing.. Okay, what do I know?",,Anonymous,kermit tea.png,1RilvH+I5c8DztQu0WiNzg==,US,,1495928851 127399764,127401804,2017-05-27 23:48:27,Join my Atheist movement pls,,I'm Going Atheist,Anticom_Maryland_20170521011734417.jpg,+zS1UCHFLjGhQgZZPqblFg==,US,,1495928907 127399764,127401810,2017-05-27 23:48:31,">Libertarian general This shit is so fucking gay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495928911 127399764,127401814,2017-05-27 23:48:34,"Buy my patches, goyim!",,Anonymous,gangsteraf1.png,d3r1uSn86klu3A9uc4N+Iw==,US,,1495928914 127399764,127401835,2017-05-27 23:48:45,">>127400968 Not going to lie, that is pretty shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495928925 127399764,127401842,2017-05-27 23:48:48,">>127401701 where do you think you are?",,Anonymous,1484107821326.jpg,SIgO3ulVQFnjqLR92OIWvA==,US,,1495928928 127399764,127401880,2017-05-27 23:49:14,>>127401810,,Anonymous,1495921294461.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1495928954 127399764,127401882,2017-05-27 23:49:15,have a upboat you faggot,,Anonymous,asdf.jpg,pK1gMRj8UT+X4Dr9OaLsiw==,US,,1495928955 127399764,127401897,2017-05-27 23:49:20,,,Anonymous,modsequalsfags.png,v1ybPD8s72MfjDLs38iv7Q==,US,,1495928960 127399764,127401929,2017-05-27 23:49:36,Stupid christian normies,,I'm Going Atheist,image-9_20170521025448793.jpg,smNuZfsigIVJPJkk+gW3Dw==,US,,1495928976 127399764,127401949,2017-05-27 23:49:44,">>127401020 >just accept globalism goy we're all consumers after all :^)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495928984 127399764,127401955,2017-05-27 23:49:45,,,Anonymous,2456.png,2irmQxpew6+wgs7Bvj+34A==,US,,1495928985 127399764,127401956,2017-05-27 23:49:47,">>127400829 >complains about strawmans >is one huge fucking strawman post Dire screencap",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495928987 127399764,127401985,2017-05-27 23:50:02,"Please by the patches, I need shekels for my family edit: thanks for gold kind stranger",,James_Coney,patches.png,77jAoZYPwnCxUME4GwHWOA==,US,,1495929002 127399764,127401988,2017-05-27 23:50:06,">>127399856 Why anti-homosexual, what business does the state have being in the bedroom of consenting individuals",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495929006 127399764,127402026,2017-05-27 23:50:34,">>127401701 how fucking new are you normie?",,Anonymous,1495919784823.jpg,z1k+o3a31h3Jl73NVnE8sg==,US,,1495929034 127399764,127402044,2017-05-27 23:50:48,">>127401088 I'm an engineer so IDK what you soft science econ faggots do, but there is sure as hell a difference between mechanization in the industrial era and the computerized automation going on now. This is self evidence by way of the price of low skilled labor which is the only thing the majority of people are capable of selling",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929048 127399764,127402071,2017-05-27 23:51:02,Daily reminder that non-autists aren't human,,I'm Going Atheist,image-9_20170521015738328.jpg,EtgF2drTHn1Ohax3N2MBRw==,US,,1495929062 127399764,127402085,2017-05-27 23:51:08,"Sometimes the point has been made that air is a resource that must be charged, or does owning private property include the air within it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929068 127399764,127402094,2017-05-27 23:51:13,>>127401988,,Anonymous,Picture1.jpg.png,34LGUtdVsGGe/Hz2MwZ7GQ==,US,,1495929073 127399764,127402117,2017-05-27 23:51:24,">>127401842 Wait, WHAT? Im not in fucking sand nigger land. I know exactly where I am. Do you know where the fuck you are?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929084 127399764,127402125,2017-05-27 23:51:31,">>127401988 What if the Child consents?",,Anonymous,1456125573154.gif,O+Uryy9sK81PqNg1ILK8rA==,US,,1495929091 127399764,127402130,2017-05-27 23:51:34,>>127401988,,Anonymous,IMG_4664.jpg,pqy4JoU79sjoFv+bhr5klA==,US,,1495929094 127399764,127402135,2017-05-27 23:51:37,">>127401949 What is globalism? Can you even define your buzzwords?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495929097 127399764,127402172,2017-05-27 23:52:02,">>127399764 Y'all are retards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929122 127399764,127402218,2017-05-27 23:52:37,">>127402172 y-y-y-you too...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929157 127399764,127402244,2017-05-27 23:52:48,Join anticom or the non-existant god will rape you.,,I'm Going Atheist,dolphin_wheel.gif,UN++bWbI1W7jvolF2E0biw==,US,,1495929168 127399764,127402264,2017-05-27 23:52:59,">>127402044 When the cotton gin was invented cotton pickers were no longer employed in the picking of cotton. Was this a bad thing that should never have happened? If you're an engineer, use your brain on this.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495929179 127399764,127402274,2017-05-27 23:53:03,">>127401988 Homosexuality destroys societies. It is not the government that should suppress homos but the culture. Our culture is being subverted by marxist degeneracy and destroyed.",,Anonymous,1495144432561.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,US,,1495929183 127399764,127402315,2017-05-27 23:53:27,">>127401701 you've got some nerve coming in here and trying to stir up trouble with a post like that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929207 127399764,127402317,2017-05-27 23:53:27,">>127402244 Rule 1 and 2 faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929207 127399764,127402362,2017-05-27 23:53:53,">>127402117 not an argument",,Anonymous,1486085611479.jpg,YhCmVj1QtYGwsqoujWOnGw==,US,,1495929233 127399764,127402393,2017-05-27 23:54:14,,,I'm Going Atheist,AutismoJoe2.gif,Q0UFFUmVWZPJOEa0T8x1qA==,US,,1495929254 127399764,127402417,2017-05-27 23:54:34,>>127401988,,Anonymous,6129511_335291919b423cc46c4ed3bf45322f4f.jpg,tYYUIlGuSZbAbGSMkNYsdw==,US,,1495929274 127399764,127402422,2017-05-27 23:54:38,,,Anonymous,graphs.png,DzwFjOHnTSG61NSM/h1q5g==,US,,1495929278 127399764,127402425,2017-05-27 23:54:40,">>127402264 What the hell are you going to do with million of citizens with IQs of <100 >reminder IQ is almost completely genetic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929280 127399764,127402426,2017-05-27 23:54:41,">>127402135 >When there's more competition in a labor market, ceteris paribus you can generally always expect higher productivity in an economy as a result insofar as that market is concerned, meaning higher supply and cheaper goods. >when china produces cheaper goods, we can let our industry stagnate and become dependent :^) its ok tho because theyre cheaper t. libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929281 127399764,127402506,2017-05-27 23:55:35,">>127402026 Not old, not new. Maybe OP was using it sarcastically, not sure. Didn't seem that way. To me it seemed like the OP types the words ""of peace"" so many times a day in reference to mudslimes that it slipped out like some sort of tourettes outburst. And, related to your question about how new I am: How does you finding interest in a message board before me make you better?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929335 127399764,127402511,2017-05-27 23:55:38,">>127402135 Globalism is the destruction of national culture by way of increased immigration, trade, and cultural exchange. Also, why do libertarians value individual ""liberty"" above the health of their race and communities? Capitalism is a useful machine, but it's never wise to define your life based on being a cog within a machine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929338 127399764,127402543,2017-05-27 23:55:58,">>127402362 neither is that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929358 127399764,127402561,2017-05-27 23:56:05,,,Anonymous,1493937013789.jpg,L+kjFd5JaQWqigj1zzPWBQ==,US,,1495929365 127399764,127402565,2017-05-27 23:56:09,,,Anonymous,1492911807818.jpg,7iAD2bcUY8+XJZKdmFXbNA==,US,,1495929369 127399764,127402587,2017-05-27 23:56:25,">>127402425 I'm not going to do anything with them. They'll find things to spend their time on just like they always have since the beginning of time. What did the cotton pickers do when the cotton gin eliminated their line of work? Other things.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495929385 127399764,127402597,2017-05-27 23:56:30,"Theists are retarded. Also PA is best state",,I'm Going Atheist,image-9.jpg,iKy2vbSkNfyld8ZSsGoKaQ==,US,,1495929390 127399764,127402605,2017-05-27 23:56:33,">>127401701 Lurk more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929393 127399764,127402620,2017-05-27 23:56:42,">>127402561 JESUS CHRIST",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929402 127399764,127402636,2017-05-27 23:56:50,">>127402425 With your own private society you can require your citizens to have a minimum IQ or a specific genetic make up.",,Anonymous,1495882569970.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,US,,1495929410 127399764,127402667,2017-05-27 23:57:07,">>127402506 >And, related to your question about how new I am: How does you finding interest in a message board before me make you better? It's called a birthright, newfag.",,Anonymous,IMG_4782.jpg,fhTplzi6uFBEuoRy+u6OzA==,US,,1495929427 127399764,127402686,2017-05-27 23:57:18,">>127402561 Why",,Anonymous,sss.jpg,Pcwca0FKBCYN9fdr9mb1Kg==,US,,1495929438 127399764,127402696,2017-05-27 23:57:24,">>127402511 Libertarians are naive because they assume everyone will play by their individualist rules. News flash, only whites do. Every other group destroys you because they team up while we isolate as individuals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929444 127399764,127402699,2017-05-27 23:57:25,">>127402125 Children do not have the maturity nor the understanding to consent to sex, adults do. The state has not place in the bedrooms of consenting adults.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495929445 127399764,127402719,2017-05-27 23:57:36,">>127402511 you only need one of those; you can destroy a nations power by weakening its industry (a facet of culture) if you take advantage of their capitalist system which doesnt protect their culture",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929456 127399764,127402759,2017-05-27 23:58:01,">>127399764 Give it to me straight, lads. What would be the best solution to remove all non-whites without violence? Is there a legal and Constitutional way of doing this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929481 127399764,127402761,2017-05-27 23:58:02,This is why I'm gay,,I'm Going Atheist,1495341128416.jpg,Jvo2iXPaO3NtiFbEtCA/fw==,US,,1495929482 127399764,127402765,2017-05-27 23:58:04,I like cook,,Anonymous,lifebuzz-ce0057863cf62fb0e0681b0b47909056-limit_2000.jpg,3CVdUlu541EAXENo5/vPMg==,US,,1495929484 127399764,127402805,2017-05-27 23:58:30,,,Anonymous,sdas.png,Ql3WcKCDdIxSS3ksS8qT5g==,US,,1495929510 127399764,127402824,2017-05-27 23:58:39,I want to be like this guy,,I'm Going Atheist,ProofThatDonaldTrumpIsn'tSexist.gif,vSlTfFagBS1ZmYTCKojOCA==,US,,1495929519 127399764,127402843,2017-05-27 23:58:49,">>127402587 The whole point is automation is eliminating the kinds of things they are able to do. At some point there aren't millions of manual labor jobs left. What happens then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929529 127399764,127402848,2017-05-27 23:58:54,">>127402667 Prove that you aren't completely new to the site. Oh, you cant? Wow. Seems like arguing over who got here first is purely masturbatory.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929534 127399764,127402850,2017-05-27 23:58:55,its time,,Anonymous,J7EqzzEh.jpg,Z1NJnW7SUUx8Lpr+O6UsWw==,US,,1495929535 127399764,127402871,2017-05-27 23:59:01,Nederland hootdag,,Anonymous,1493787678561.jpg,Yexf0ESZZnjoyP8EMCv5SQ==,US,,1495929541 127399764,127402889,2017-05-27 23:59:17,,,Anonymous,joe.png,BHp9fFnHxYkc/DhKGo9GiQ==,US,,1495929557 127399764,127402900,2017-05-27 23:59:27,,,Anonymous,1486504935680s.jpg,7MX0Jt7G0tQTECkD0s53wQ==,US,,1495929567 127399764,127402920,2017-05-27 23:59:39,This is why there is no God,,I'm Going Atheist,1495667410825.webm,IoQ1s5qtyxwi6waDOxgMAQ==,US,,1495929579 127399764,127402933,2017-05-27 23:59:44,How long do you have to hold land after stealing it before it becomes your (naturally) rightful property?,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495929584 127399764,127402967,2017-05-28 00:00:05,,,Anonymous,uGBVCuG.jpg,sWq4wyqYbjZj48Vz7Rtf3w==,US,,1495929605 127399764,127403011,2017-05-28 00:00:25,"hey guys, don't mind me. Just going leave my pizza here for a bit",,Anonymous,1493971558938.jpg,WEcF9s3+xjQG++NeoXOXHg==,US,,1495929625 127399764,127403015,2017-05-28 00:00:28,">>127402426 Do you understand how people come to be wealthy? Productivity, which is strongly correlated with capital accumulation and use. Do you know what comparative advantage is? It's the reason we're incredibly wealthy and super competitive in high-value markets while China is still poor and only competing in markets where they have comparative advantage in.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495929628 127399764,127403026,2017-05-28 00:00:36,">libertarianism >right wing >MUH FREEDUMBZ you have to be 18 to post here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929636 127399764,127403044,2017-05-28 00:00:52,">>127402759 Have you read the constitution? Didn't think so. The answer is no. Murder the non-whites like you really want to, or let them fuck your wife like the impotent cuck that you are. There is no middle ground.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929652 127399764,127403079,2017-05-28 00:01:08,">>127402264 They were redistributed to factory work which opened up more unskilled work than existed previously. Increased productivity was compensated by increased demand. Today's automation is also compensated by increased demand, but that demand doesn't fall on sectors that employ low or unskilled labor (IE durable goods, nobody needs 10 cars), but rather on things like bussiness services and cultural products that employ skilled workers. This means a significant and rapidly increasing portion of society is economically obsolete. It's not hard to see why this is VERY BAD for societal stability long term. And no, killing them off is not a moral or viable option.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929668 127399764,127403086,2017-05-28 00:01:09,,,Anonymous,oBMQbFl.jpg,iieQQtpjRgKlMUmsUGtFzw==,US,,1495929669 127399764,127403108,2017-05-28 00:01:23,">>127403011 >Not cheese pizza What are you? An Authoritarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929683 127399764,127403112,2017-05-28 00:01:23,I fapped to this.,,I'm Going Atheist,Red Skull.jpg,j9W5CmOm+RkSuZN/Jk71UQ==,US,,1495929683 127399764,127403134,2017-05-28 00:01:32,">>127403011 Mmmm... I really love to chain up my pizza too. Do you have any cheese pizza?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929692 127399764,127403177,2017-05-28 00:02:03,I really don't remember what this one was.,,I'm Going Atheist,1494601305923.gif,+5rIbJkJKTY2rIlS+fATSQ==,US,,1495929723 127399764,127403232,2017-05-28 00:02:33,">>127402511 What's a ""national culture""? People aren't even remotely similar going from one state to the next, let alone having a *NATIONAL* fucking culture. If you've noticed over the past centuries, other countries adopt Western practices and get wealthier. The trend has been Westernization, not de-Westernization.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495929753 127399764,127403240,2017-05-28 00:02:37,Yum!,,Anonymous,1493964949346.jpg,0TquDfLP5t1qunmhu8hy+Q==,US,,1495929757 127399764,127403242,2017-05-28 00:02:38,">>127402511 It's about fucking balance. Sure group preservation is great but then you have a shitload of different groups vying for power against each other. Communist, Fascist, Black, White Power, Mafia, Unions, Jews and so on. Take your pick on who you want to get fucked by. They'll all gang up on you to take your money to put in their own pocket. The only group that does not pose a threat to you is the smallest possible group, i.e. the individual. Government should only function in infrastructure and defense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929758 127399764,127403251,2017-05-28 00:02:41,">>127403015 >all consumers participate in high value markets >low value markets are of no importance to the economy nor peoples lives yeah thats great but being momentarily rich doesnt mean youre not killing off your power by deferring production and patronizing china",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929761 127399764,127403276,2017-05-28 00:03:03,"Automation has been increasing for the last 250 years. Turns out people just find new jobs. New industries crop up with new innovation. As the world gets increasingly more developed, there will be more markets to reach, with the global birthrate steadily declining to equilibrium. Also, libertarianism is retarded. Just as retarded as communism. Go centre or go back to your basement.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495929783 127399764,127403305,2017-05-28 00:03:21,">>127403240 Yummy Yummy",,I'm Going Atheist,YumYums.jpg,pA56DqlDOsI580RvjNDs0w==,US,,1495929801 127399764,127403321,2017-05-28 00:03:33,">>127402511 >above the health of their race and communities ""Health""? I'm advocating healthy relations between people. You're advocating slavery, destitution, and muggery.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495929813 127399764,127403324,2017-05-28 00:03:33,">>127403251 Lets have sex in a pile of amazing Patches made by our lord and savior James Coney",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929813 127399764,127403403,2017-05-28 00:04:16,">>127403324 dont reply to me or ill come to your state and vote blue",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929856 127399764,127403407,2017-05-28 00:04:21,">>127402843 >The whole point is automation is eliminating the kinds of things they are able to do So you would have opposed the cotton gin?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495929861 127399764,127403423,2017-05-28 00:04:28,">>127399764 If NatSocs gave even half a shit about the future of western civilization as they say they do, they'd learn about economics and statism. https://mises.org/system/tdf/Henry%20Hazlitt%20Economics%20in%20One%20Lesson.pdf?file=1&type=document https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929868 127399764,127403457,2017-05-28 00:04:51,,,Anonymous,buydapatchesnshiet.png,UZ3lvGzrU6oWF8OFWXJn/w==,US,,1495929891 127399764,127403465,2017-05-28 00:04:56,">>127403403 IM SORRY!",,Anonymous,colorado-full.jpg,PLmkCGuMnXxxj39YNYIt0w==,US,,1495929896 127399764,127403552,2017-05-28 00:05:46,"What is this ""Anticom""? and where can I join?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495929946 127399764,127403578,2017-05-28 00:06:04,">>127403407 the frontier world is different than ours; we can't walk out the house and settle virgin lands. in todays world we have to justify our existence by paying taxes and participating in an economy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495929964 127399764,127403585,2017-05-28 00:06:08,,,I'm Going Atheist,Blacked.png,YUPJJ+eTsvYtbHNVnr6NcA==,US,,1495929968 127399764,127403601,2017-05-28 00:06:18,I love Lady Rabbi <3,,Anonymous,(((ladytemplar))).jpg,fSMWBEKxAfiirx1SwMwyYw==,US,,1495929978 127399764,127403606,2017-05-28 00:06:23,just kidding cas here nobodies gonna join our shit cult,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495929983 127399764,127403691,2017-05-28 00:07:11,">>127403552 go to link. email under contact page.",,Anonymous,madforpatches.png,ye+O8XktxoJbSe4Gig84/A==,US,,1495930031 127399764,127403710,2017-05-28 00:07:27,">>127403321 >muggery This is the worst part of libertarianism. I don't advocate communism. Capitalism, at least to a certain extent, is still necessary in the modern world. But if you see things like taxation to help out your local community as robbery than you're breaking the natural human code of group loyalty, which is degenerate and immoral as fuck. Libertarians are a symptom of globalization that has eroded cultural unity and trust in other people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930047 127399764,127403734,2017-05-28 00:07:44,">>127403423 >if natsocs cared about western civilization they'd listen to these jews who say shit like quote related ''but also that the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights. The parent therefore may not murder or mutilate his child, and the law properly outlaws a parent from doing so. But the parent should have the legal right not to feed the child, i.e., to allow it to die.'' so redpilled, truly libertarianism will save western civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930064 127399764,127403753,2017-05-28 00:07:55,">>127403601 you stupid fucking cunt",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495930075 127399764,127403771,2017-05-28 00:08:05,">>127403552 It is an Alliance of right wing ideas against intifa. Most of these are memes that sprung out of nowhere.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930085 127399764,127403796,2017-05-28 00:08:18,">>127403691 lmao im kidding my nigger its cas here get fucked",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495930098 127399764,127403801,2017-05-28 00:08:21,">>127402759 No they only respect force and don't operate in good faith as concerns anything else. They're animals. The blackpill is that we will either have fascism or we will be wiped out as a people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930101 127399764,127403866,2017-05-28 00:08:56,">>127403552 we have a discord. W2ta3M PA is best state btw",,I'm Going Atheist,1492802539207.png,3o4/xS/lzgEdPKPzQhUdew==,US,,1495930136 127399764,127403878,2017-05-28 00:09:02,">>127403771 what if the child consents tho",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495930142 127399764,127403879,2017-05-28 00:09:02,Tell me about the societies homosexuality has destroyed,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495930142 127399764,127403956,2017-05-28 00:09:48,">>127403710 Horse shit, globalism is the ultimate enemy of individual rights and therefore libertarianism. Libertarianism advocates for national sovereignty.",,Anonymous,BAZEDGOOG.png,iWVfQpnpTDcKFgJP/hyzxg==,US,,1495930188 127399764,127403970,2017-05-28 00:09:59,>>127403879,,Anonymous,1361860488047.png,vWF0HkCW7TeXmv7+3w9BKQ==,US,,1495930199 127399764,127404003,2017-05-28 00:10:15,">>127403879 Rome, Greece, America, all of Europe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930215 127399764,127404011,2017-05-28 00:10:23,">>127402848 he's obviously less new than you, you gargantuan faggot. you are in crystal-clear violation of the nap right now, and ANY SINGLE MAN in this board could righteously end you for this trespass.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930223 127399764,127404013,2017-05-28 00:10:26,Ok back on topic,,I'm Going Atheist,1494171096274.png,Y/V2kZAvtNEQS5ZiUgyqqg==,US,,1495930226 127399764,127404018,2017-05-28 00:10:29,">>127403956 based gook needs to mcgas himself immediately",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495930229 127399764,127404039,2017-05-28 00:10:42,">>127403879 >>127403970",,Anonymous,1372618254584.jpg,GC+tGH3lONt/nw2GTYIyFQ==,US,,1495930242 127399764,127404053,2017-05-28 00:10:51,">>127403079 They didn't just go to factory work. There's an infinite number of things people can spend their time doing, and the wealthier they and the people around them are, the higher a price they can place on their activities. Has it occurred to you *WHY* it is that plumbers in the U.S. makes far and away more money than plumbers elsewhere despite doing essentially the same job? It's because the people around them are wealthier and can and will pay higher prices for services. Automation increases productivity - like all automation in the past and all CAPITAL does accomplish (automation is just capital) - and makes people wealthier, such that they can and will pay for things at higher prices for goods and services because there's simply more wealth floating around to do so with. You do not need - NOR IS IT EVEN *REMOTELY DESIRABLE* - people to dig holes and fill them back up in the name of ensuring employment for people.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495930251 127399764,127404071,2017-05-28 00:11:02,">>127404018 He does.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930262 127399764,127404080,2017-05-28 00:11:05,@here,,Anonymous,sfghjk.png,MuGcVS5bklRB3W0JGk2uzA==,US,,1495930265 127399764,127404092,2017-05-28 00:11:12,">>127403878 Children cannot consent without paying for the McSuckyFuckyFunTime subscription",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930272 127399764,127404162,2017-05-28 00:11:52,">>127403276 that's a pollyana view of automation's actual effects. You just don't notice them since they haven't gotten to you yet. Niggers became economically obsolete in the 60's and 70's with the rise of the service industry. Low IQ whites have recently become obsolete with the automation of clerical positions and skilled manufacturing. It creeps up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930312 127399764,127404174,2017-05-28 00:11:59,">>127399902 Conservatives calling themselves libertarians is like weeaboos calling themselves mentally stable, fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1495930319 127399764,127404190,2017-05-28 00:12:08,">>127403879 also the ottoman empire",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930328 127399764,127404225,2017-05-28 00:12:18,Just going to leave this here,,Anonymous,1494210746341.jpg,Y4kd0teZihkApv9CaeX+ew==,US,,1495930338 127399764,127404274,2017-05-28 00:12:53,">>127402843 congratulations, you are now a communist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930373 127399764,127404294,2017-05-28 00:13:07,"How do i feel? I've been to the depths of embarrassment. And still I dig deeper into the Cheetos bag. I tried to ride a roller coaster in Las Vegas but the safety bar wouldn't latch because of my fat guy, so my friend and I had to get off, and everyone just loudly laughed at me. It's not things like that which get to me, it's not the fact I've long since given up on wiping my ass, and I now just shower after taking a dump. It's not the fact I get out of breath just waddling into the grocery store to buy more junk food and spiced rum.. or that my legs have gone all hard and red as fluid builds up because my calves don't pump it back up and I have to wear compression stockings to slow the inevitable gangrenous amputation. It's not those things.. what really gets me is now all of the normies now stare at me. I used to be invisible, I would stare at girls I liked hoping they'd look back but they never did. I used to be frustrated that no one ever looked at me. So it's ironic that now I have gotten my wish, anytime I go anywhere people are starting at me. I'm a walking freak show. Often I suddenly stare back at them and they freak out and look away, probably scared I'm going to eat them. I have to take 3 different pills to try and control my blood pressure and pre diabetes. I'm basically boogie2988 but ten years behind him. He will not survive much longer, but I still pathetically feel I have a chance.. if only I could walk for five minutes without my back feeling like it's going to explode and my knees crumbling beneath me.",,I'm Going Atheist,draft98013913.jpg,G48ML42GeOl25JaMN0SHcw==,US,,1495930387 127399764,127404408,2017-05-28 00:14:06,">>127404053 That doesn't mean shit to the people with nothing but low skilled labor to sell. It's a logical fallacy to equate quality of life to GDP or even purchasing power. People require purpose in their lives. This has historically come from work. Without this they become neurotic, hence SJW's, NEET's, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930446 127399764,127404421,2017-05-28 00:14:12,"Okay friend, let me explain something to you since you seem to be new here. Hebephilia is NOT the same thing as pedophilIa. I'm sick and tired of you trolls popping up everywhere and spreading BLATANT misinformation. In many countries hebephilia is considered normal and healthy . Human beings have a natural attraction to girls who are going through puberty. Being attracted to girls who are pre-pubescent is fucking sick and disgusting, but only in the US does there seem to be an unwarranted taboo around a healthy and normal condition. My head hurts. I'm just trying to get my real life back.",,I'm Going Atheist,image-9_20170522001118815.jpg,39DCob736S35IK7cM54sWQ==,US,,1495930452 127399764,127404546,2017-05-28 00:15:36,Reminder that death is a much more preferable alternative than communism,,Anonymous,IMG_2014.jpg,pkjgvX+5ZDXCqZ//Q/4hrg==,US,,1495930536 127399764,127404591,2017-05-28 00:16:00,">>127403970 This basically says women should not be able to have a say in things. Duh, women are fucking stupid and make decisions bases on emotions instead of logic. Says nothing about homosexuality.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495930560 127399764,127404626,2017-05-28 00:16:22,">>127400296 CORRECT!",,Anonymous,860268003dd1c6574748bb737e50fb44.jpg,qD/3Z9m9lyYuxF1frIKIlQ==,US,,1495930582 127399764,127404652,2017-05-28 00:16:38,">>127403734 Are we really to believe you read that whole essay? >so redpilled, truly libertarianism will save western civilization. You're right, give a bunch of economic control to the government. Real winner there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930598 127399764,127404728,2017-05-28 00:17:26,"If I could do anything, what would I do? I would create an underground ring of sex slaves that were all male bodybuilders that specifically identified as being straight. I would seduce each and every one of my sex slaves as a personal conquest to prove that my strength was superior to their own. My cock could rest each night; hilt'ed inside of muscle slut. His innards would expertly milk my pulsing cock for hours; and they would each beg for just a taste of my power.",,I'm Going Atheist,image-9_20170521022053421.jpg,C1hzpmELUhbR71RYJQBnTA==,US,,1495930646 127399764,127404744,2017-05-28 00:17:36,">>127403251 >all consumers participate in high value markets >low value markets are of no importance to the economy nor peoples lives",,Praceteom,scarecrow.jpg,f0NNTnugPMeTz5mwwzyYfQ==,US,,1495930656 127399764,127404767,2017-05-28 00:17:45,">>127404003 All of those declines are result of women having say, and not being the property that they are",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495930665 127399764,127404773,2017-05-28 00:17:48,">>127404294 I laughed really hard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930668 127399764,127404777,2017-05-28 00:17:53,traps aren't gay,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930673 127399764,127404818,2017-05-28 00:18:22,">>127403578 >we have to justify our existence To fucking who? Go fuck yourself - nobody needs to ""justify their existence"" to fucking anybody.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495930702 127399764,127404904,2017-05-28 00:19:17,Are you like some kind of woman hating faggot?,,Anonymous,DOITFAGGOT.png,zQCX9+vQ9gnXxLlS9UYA9g==,US,,1495930757 127399764,127404963,2017-05-28 00:19:52,">>127404777 kek confirms",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930792 127399764,127404992,2017-05-28 00:20:19,">>127404777 Checked Still gay though, you faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930819 127399764,127405010,2017-05-28 00:20:35,What happens if company x wants to being in tons lf cheap immigrant labor to beat company y?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930835 127399764,127405022,2017-05-28 00:20:44,">>127403710 >taxation to help out your local community So good it's mandatory? What if your first-born child is requested ""for the good of the community""? Say he shows talent as a musician, and it would be in the ""public interest"" to take him from you to be raised by the state to produce music? Where are you deriving your absurd and seemingly completely arbitrary lines for when it's okay to violently enforce your whims on other people?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495930844 127399764,127405023,2017-05-28 00:20:42,">>127404777 kys faggot",,I'm Going Atheist,image-9_20170521013606966.jpg,XaFZQDHJh0TCpdfWF+PLPA==,US,,1495930842 127399764,127405047,2017-05-28 00:20:58,">>127404777 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! KYS FAGGOT",,Anonymous,1490471672549.gif,iTavlFfB6u2Yis44VcgSoQ==,US,,1495930858 127399764,127405080,2017-05-28 00:21:26,">>127404992 With high-end sex dolls costing in excess of $10,000, it's a massive investment. It's also a commitment of resources. What happens if you fuck a fake 10k doll one time and discover it's just too fucking creepy for you? Now you're stuck with a 10k doll that just sits in your house, staring out the window at cars passing by. In a bid of desperation to get it out of the house, you put up an ad on craigslist but all the responses you get are just from weirdos who want to ""test drive her"".",,I'm Going Atheist,hugcfghjklkjhgds.jpg,T56w7hT8i59h0vKfhJDX2w==,US,,1495930886 127399764,127405086,2017-05-28 00:21:29,">>127404777 TRIPS OF TRUTH, THANK YOU FUCKING THANK YOU SO MUCH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930889 127399764,127405108,2017-05-28 00:21:39,"A lot of libertarianism could actually work if western society was still largely religious, rather than consumerist/athiest. This is one of the reasons for natsoc, to instill higher values in the population as a whole, since capitalism works better when money is a means to an end rather than an end itself that you're willing to fuck over your fellow citizens for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930899 127399764,127405126,2017-05-28 00:21:48,">>127405080 Begrudingly, realizing you have no further use of the doll, you let one of the prospective buyers try it out. After waiting downstairs watching ripples in your tea form from the earth-shattering shaking coming from your dead mother's old room, the buyer comes out and decides he doesn't want to purchase it after all. Now you're stuck cleaning dried, crusty stranger semen out of all the orifices of the doll and then rinsing it down with an acetone/alcohol mixture to kill off any remaining viruses or bacteria. You'll think, 'what's the point? I'm never going to use it ever again.' And for weeks, it just sits up in your mother's room, gathering dust. You finally pick up Tindr again and make a desperate bid to go out with a real woman. Sure, she has two kids, is missing a tooth, and has a weird growth coming from one of her boobs -- but she's a real woman. And after a night out on the town, you come home smelling like cheap pussy and bad perfume and you look at the doll. Sure, it would be a 10/10 if it was real. But it's not. It will never pretend to buck wildly on your throbbing member. Its adulation and enjoyment purely mute. After a few scotchs, you decide to try anal. Why not? It's not like it can really feel anything. After several attempts to jam your half-mast member into its tight polyurethane-lined asshole, you settle for the plastic vagina. It's a loveless affair -- for both you and the inanimate object you're fucking.Then one day you come home and it has a knife in its hand. It says that if you don't fuck it, it'll cut off your dick and feed it to your cats. Oh fuck no! you think as you get out the shotgun. Fearing for your life, you unload a quick but satisfying volley of double-ought shot into the doll. After the smoke clears, you realize that you just blew a 10k load all over your living room.",,I'm Going Atheist,image-9_20170521023150965.jpg,UNW+WaWiiKt4GV6vX0JPMA==,US,,1495930908 127399764,127405149,2017-05-28 00:22:02,">>127404408 They'll find something to use their time on. They always have. They *ALWAYS* have. So - historically - why should this case be different when historically no other cases have been?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495930922 127399764,127405162,2017-05-28 00:22:10,">>127399969 This is the most stupid thing I've read today, if you abolish state and privatize everything there wouldn't exist borders anymore, just private property, so immigration as we know it wouldn't happen. If your neighbor thinks it's ok to invite a thousand niggers to his place there's nothing you could do about it, fucking faggot.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1495930930 127399764,127405214,2017-05-28 00:22:39,">>127404744 ??? >lets let our economy freewheel off wealth of previous generations' industry and transfer all our labor force to consumer industries like advertising and shuffling around foreign goods to make sure our economy still has nice big numbers on the big jewish numbers board, this wont have any adverse effect on a nation :^) >>127404818 >by paying taxes and participating in an economy otherwise, you die, you fucking nerd. you know this, right? finish a sentence before replying",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495930959 127399764,127405216,2017-05-28 00:22:40,,,Anonymous,1495935175126.jpg,iCwFn2VLpIwPMP4W/nDGrw==,US,,1495930960 127399764,127405307,2017-05-28 00:23:41,Getting this thread back on track,,Anonymous,1488127686497.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,US,,1495931021 127399764,127405308,2017-05-28 00:23:42,">>127405022 bullshit strawman, same as ancap kindergarten heroin prostitutes. I'm not even going to debate this since libertarians refuse to acknowledge the presence of a mutual social contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495931022 127399764,127405471,2017-05-28 00:25:28,,,Anonymous,1488127587995.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,US,,1495931128 127399764,127405515,2017-05-28 00:25:53,">>127405308 >bullshit strawman I asked four questions - questions don't state a position; it's not even possible that that post creates a strawman of *ANYTHING* you complete illogical dipshit.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495931153 127399764,127405548,2017-05-28 00:26:10,,,Anonymous,1488139351020.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,US,,1495931170 127399764,127405596,2017-05-28 00:26:44,"What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little globalist? I'll have you know infowars.com gets over 11 million hits a month, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on the Bohemian Grove, and I have over 300 confirmed Bilderberg protests. I am trained in memetic warfare and I'm the top pundit in the entire US. You are nothing to me but just another shill. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with taking our guns and making frogs gay? Think again, globalist. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of alt-rightists across the world and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, globalist. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call the European Union. You're fucking dead, goblin. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can break your conditioning in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in information warfare, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States alt-right and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable propaganda off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little ""clever"" propaganda was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, Soros.",,I'm Going Atheist,Euphoric.png,NWkN3hVlZHcOnPpqbdst3Q==,US,,1495931204 127399764,127405684,2017-05-28 00:27:30,Pahjeet has patches if you have coin,,Anonymous,4186930042_206c1de7c9_b.jpg,+7WBBqasugg/yxgpyrQ3KQ==,US,,1495931250 127399764,127405694,2017-05-28 00:27:38,">>127405108 You need to read reactionary liberty. http://reactionaryliberty.com/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495931258 127399764,127405709,2017-05-28 00:27:47,">>127405022 >equating taxes to offspring >there is no reasonable amount of tax you know thats not libertarian right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495931267 127399764,127405771,2017-05-28 00:28:23,"Jeb fan here. Pacific Northwest. You're a fool if you think Jeb heads aren't armed. Shit man a lot of us served. Those of us who haven't have family who have, family in law enforcement, and so on. I've hunted and gutted deer. I've slaughtered squirrel in potato fields. I've fought. I've wrestled. I used to skate and I've broken so many bones I've literally lost count and walked half of them off. And there's nothing special or exceptional about me. You're a fool if you don't think Jeb heads are formidable. For every straw man pic you have of a faggy old cuck with a Jeb! sign or inflatable Jeb! balloons I have a pic of a fat virgin beta orbiter Trumpster with a weak stance who still flinches when he fires. I don't presume that Drumpfkins are not formidable. I grew up surrounded by Trump types before they became the Trump types. I know what they can do. I've hunted with them. But that's what's funny about these neolibertarian pseudofascists. They assume they're the toughest guys in the world and everyone else is soft. That's why they keep losing wars. The south loses. Every time they flex. Jeb heads are ruthless when cornered. We burned Atlanta to the ground and used rape as a weapon of mass psychological operation, disrupted troops and marched right up to Jefferson Davis front door. We designed a bomb that destroyed entire cities, then we upgraded it. We invented remote control flying guns and remote control bombers.. Don't fuck with us. The south will rise again? Fine. We'll put em down again.",,I'm Going Atheist,JoePic.png,LDU4XYArYJSJwjBhJ668xg==,US,,1495931303 127399764,127405825,2017-05-28 00:28:59,">>127405709 >reasonable amount of tax How much money can I reasonably extort from you?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495931339 127399764,127405898,2017-05-28 00:29:41,">>127405825 will you pave my roads in an effective manner?",,Anonymous,1420053920918.png,OSr5rPol6Y1X2YHjjfHUYA==,US,,1495931381 127399764,127405993,2017-05-28 00:30:48,,,I'm Going Atheist,JoeAutisticFat.png,h28p8yGz1EOVtk/v6AZp7Q==,US,,1495931448 127399764,127406121,2017-05-28 00:32:02,,,Anonymous,anticom-04.png,+CdVUYoImw7FMTtCXwTaGw==,US,,1495931522 127399764,127406134,2017-05-28 00:32:12,">>127405898 The companies who build your roads now either do or they don't. If they don't you can pay other people to do it better instead of getting stuck with the shitty people, or if you like them you can keep paying them yourself.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495931532 127399764,127406205,2017-05-28 00:33:01,,,Anonymous,unknown.png,+BQcdvSN2wcQgG7DxB+3Uw==,US,,1495931581 127399764,127406311,2017-05-28 00:34:00,"Ignore Joe threads Hide Joe threads Don't reply to Joe posters",,I'm Going Atheist,JoeMeme.png,I6cm3gqaLs/kPLc5pPUnVg==,US,,1495931640 127399764,127406347,2017-05-28 00:34:23,">>127406134 whats wrong with a community coming together to pool money (taxes) to pay a contractor to work on a communal project",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495931663 127399764,127406417,2017-05-28 00:35:11,,,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS5pbWd1ci5jb20vTHNMTW9CdC5wbmcifQ.d5xIbG1Ig9fYu6vUzR-q0DuCk_M.png,WbxbpdVUeynDG3A4CuNjFA==,US,,1495931711 127399764,127406654,2017-05-28 00:37:40,Get your new Anticom gear,,James_Coney,il_fullxfull.827620687_lr0g.jpg,FG8Dq8oQ7TA8esZya9bjOA==,US,,1495931860 127399764,127406710,2017-05-28 00:38:15,">>127404162 Nah, there's just more of a global labour market to compete with. Workers in nations with well enforced workplace regulations can't compete with backwards shitholes that are desperate to escape shitty agrarian lifestyles. That better society costs more to live in because there's more money and services making your life better. Trade, including that of labour, creates winners and loser, but it creates more winners than it does losers. What YOU are not seeing is the benefits elsewhere, the rapid growth of the middle class in places like friggin China or friggin Estonia or friggin wherever the fuck else that finally embraced liberal capitalism. All you see locally are the losers from trade. Rapid change hurts. Economies, the environment, whatever. It doesn't hurt so much if it's done slowly, or finished. This is why it will eventually help everyone to reduce global inequality. If automation really does just benefit an elite few, and that wealth doesn't go toward education or training low skilled workers, then there will eventually be riots. Really, though, it's more of a debate on the limits of humanity and how many people you think will hopelessly be only prepared for low skilled labour. I'm inclined to think that we have a lot of room to improve. We just have to not nuke ourselves to death first.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495931895 127399764,127406759,2017-05-28 00:38:45,">>127405825 This all comes down to the purpose of the state. Every non-state society that has ever existed has been conquered by a neighboring nations. This is because militaries based on individualism fail. Taxes should pay for a military that is able defend the society. There are also cases in which some services will not be profitable to provide is some locations of the society for example areas with small population concentrations. Those services should be providied through public means, however a private option should not he made illegal, and should be a viable option alongside the public option if profitable.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495931925 127399764,127406764,2017-05-28 00:38:50,">>127406347 A community coming together to pool money isn't taxation, because ""coming together"" implies people are voluntarily taking action of their own accord and agreeing to help fund something together with others. Taxation is the opposite of that - it's violently taking people's property *whether those people like it or agree to it or not*. That's *MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE*. I'm absolutely in favor of voluntary crowdfunding for projects that people want to see get done - what I'm *NOT* in favor of is bureaucratic leeching goons threatening people with arrest and death for not complying with their extortion racket.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495931930 127399764,127406881,2017-05-28 00:39:56,">>127406764 >people are voluntarily taking action of their own accord and agreeing to help fund something together with others yes, that is called the voting process",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495931996 127399764,127406948,2017-05-28 00:40:41,">>127406759 I don't care what the purpose of any given thing is if what that thing does involves moral atrocities. If the purpose of creation and use of a world-destroying bomb was world peace, I'd object to it regardless of its intent or motive because I think murder is morally reprehensible.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495932041 127399764,127407076,2017-05-28 00:42:03,">>127403734 >allowing to weak and feeble-minded to die without centralized intervention is a bad thing no lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932123 127399764,127407123,2017-05-28 00:42:27,,,Anonymous,1495882417264.jpg,A3K2RGPEFVeZrvy2Fx6Fjg==,US,,1495932147 127399764,127407148,2017-05-28 00:42:42,">>127404652 you have to be 18 to post here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932162 127399764,127407184,2017-05-28 00:43:02,">>127406881 No - it does not justify threatening people with violence to take their property because the people threatening you give you a chance to vote on your master. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxRSkM8C8z4",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495932182 127399764,127407310,2017-05-28 00:44:30,">>127407076 so edgy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932270 127399764,127407383,2017-05-28 00:45:24,"Ok, now I'm strongly considering being a right-libertarian, but I have some questions, and I would appreciate if they were answered seriously, because I'm asking them seriously. >Who would pay for scientific laboratories? No company on earth directly benefits from a particle collider, but we can agree (I hope) that scientific advancement is very important. Quantum physics had no applications for years and years and years, until BOOM, atomic bomb, transistors, etc. >Who would pay for environmental research? Undoubtedly, it's in the fishing industry's long term interest to not overfished, but in the short term, overfishing mean more fish for me and less for the other guy. >Wouldn't advertising be a problem? No regulations means lying in your ad is A-OK. Reviewers could still catch bad products, but most customers don't buy based on reviewers. >With no FDA, wouldn't small businesses be inclined to spike their soda with cocaine, to keep consumers coming back? Even if people find out and they go out of business, they can just start another one, in another place. Some people would be warned, but most people aren't looking out for that sort of thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932324 127399764,127407435,2017-05-28 00:46:03,">>127406759 Oh, in those pragmatic cases you're talking about, they're addressed. http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495932363 127399764,127407563,2017-05-28 00:47:25,">>127407383 >edgy teens >right-wing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932445 127399764,127407571,2017-05-28 00:47:32,">>127407184 thats fair",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932452 127399764,127407766,2017-05-28 00:49:42,">>127407383 >Who would pay for scientific laboratories? http://tomwoods.com/ebook/Busting-Myths-About-the-State-and-the-Libertarian-Alternative.pdf Starting on page 68 on ""Basic Science"".",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495932582 127399764,127407850,2017-05-28 00:50:37,If God exists then why did these rocks evolve into a skeleton?,,Anonymous,1495593621564.jpg,NiVGIBzrlJEHZSJ7Xc0KcQ==,US,,1495932637 127399764,127407899,2017-05-28 00:51:10,">>127407383 big scientific projects are only government funded because government is taking the position of the aristocracy; rich people with scientific interests would still exist to fund neat shit; they just wont derive their wealth from taxation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932670 127399764,127407972,2017-05-28 00:51:49,">>127407766 >defending an ideology thats never been put into place outside of your parents basement",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932709 127399764,127408044,2017-05-28 00:52:36,">>127407899 >rich people >aristocrats you have to be 18 to post here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932756 127399764,127408080,2017-05-28 00:52:57,">>127407972 >libertarianism isn't the foundation of all societies what other ideology can exist without roads????",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932777 127399764,127408192,2017-05-28 00:53:58,">>127408080 >autism >the foundation of any functioning society",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932838 127399764,127408203,2017-05-28 00:54:05,">>127407972 >never been put into place That's a false statement. http://tomwoods.com/ebook/Busting-Myths-About-the-State-and-the-Libertarian-Alternative.pdf ^ starting on page 113.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495932845 127399764,127408288,2017-05-28 00:54:51,">>127408203 whatever you say shlomo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495932891 127399764,127408511,2017-05-28 00:57:28,">>127408288 You shouldn't make statements as if they're facts when actual facts contradict your falsities.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495933048 127399764,127408533,2017-05-28 00:57:41,">>127406764 >morally wrong not an argument. smaller crowdfunding means less economies of scale to harvest, while those that don't partake reap the benefits without having to invest themselves. the bigger incentive is literally to not invest and therefore people will largely wait for someone else to do it. i think that's called the bystander effect.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495933061 127399764,127408636,2017-05-28 00:58:46,">>127408511 >(((facts))) whatever you say kike",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933126 127399764,127408726,2017-05-28 00:59:43,"I recently had an argument with a friend about the nature of taxation in this country. I have no problem with being taxed (forced to pay) for public goods like roads, security, emergency services, and utilities. However, I do not think that I should be forced to pay for schools that I do not use. If I do not go to a school and I don't send my children to it either, I should not have to pay for that school. Essentially, I argued that no one should pay for a good or service that they do not use. My friend disagreed with me, and argued that taking money from taxpayers and allocating some of that money to school systems, even in shitty areas, is an investment in ""human capital"" that could bring out the potential in people who, if their school were not publicly funded, would otherwise have resorted to selling crack and other such things. He argued that being taxed for non-public goods like education is a compulsory investment in human capital meant to increase the quality of life. So, since I benefit from these educated individuals by them going into medicine, engineering, etc., I should be compelled to pay for their schooling, and not just whatever products/services I purchase from them. I'm embarrassed to admit that my only responses were: >It's immoral to force people to pay for things they don't use >Allocating taxpayer dollars to public school districts, especially to those in poor areas, is forcing them to gamble I feel that I did not sufficiently refute his argument with those. Can anyone help me (preferably minarchist, but ancaps are welcome as well) formulate a better counter-argument to the human capital argument?",,Anonymous,feels bad.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,US,,1495933183 127399764,127408866,2017-05-28 01:01:10,">>127408726 >forced to pay don't like it, move. but then again teenagers can't afford to move out of their parents basements.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933270 127399764,127408994,2017-05-28 01:02:25,">>127408726 you ought to have pointed out to him the faults of the school system; corruption etc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933345 127399764,127409000,2017-05-28 01:02:31,">>127408533 It is an argument. The argument is ""If something is morally wrong, that something ought not to be done."" That is exactly an argument - it's in perfect premise -> conclusion form. >smaller crowdfunding means less economies of scale to harvest People whose interests are more at stake are more likely to pay for something in which their interests are integrally tied than people whose interests aren't so tied. Duh. I don't think disparate interests is something ""wrong"" with humanity that humans need to ""correct"".",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495933351 127399764,127409057,2017-05-28 01:03:11,">>127408636 Keep telling yourself that, tin-foil bro.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495933391 127399764,127409112,2017-05-28 01:03:46,">>127408726 No, because libertarianism thinks externalities don't real. What your friend was talking about are positive externalities. What you are talking about would create a shit ton of negative externalities like crime",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495933426 127399764,127409146,2017-05-28 01:04:15,">>127408726 It's okay to be forced to give up your property so long as you like the reason you're being threatened? That seems pretty Stockholm-ish.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495933455 127399764,127409229,2017-05-28 01:05:07,">>127409146 says the basement dwelling teenager who doesn't pay taxes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933507 127399764,127409341,2017-05-28 01:06:18,">>127408726 >>127409112 Actual libertarianism on actual positive externalities in public goods.",,Praceteom,publicgoods_readROADS_1.png,R/1TppPoeRWHAkPEeGqjAQ==,US,,1495933578 127399764,127409343,2017-05-28 01:06:19,">>127407435 Did you even fucking read this before you linked it. On national defence, the author concludes, that a government in its most basic and simple form, although still a ciminal organization, is necessary for defense against non anarchist nations.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495933579 127399764,127409488,2017-05-28 01:07:58,">>127409343 >teenagers >reading",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933678 127399764,127409584,2017-05-28 01:08:59,">>127409343 That's not David Friedman's position. He says he's not sure what the case actually is. He has an entire chapter on national defense *in that book*. Maybe YOU ought to actually read it?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495933739 127399764,127409597,2017-05-28 01:09:03,">>127399764 Academia is the prime reason sjw cancer is festering. First: get rid of the government guarantee that student loans will always be repaid. Not only has this raised the cost of college but it's made having students - too profitable. Those profits then allow the college to retain these useless adjunct professors like Eric Clanton for decades to come. And 2: couple the legislation with a one-time forgiveness of current student loan debt. The vast, vast majority of these leftwing activists who will rail and rage against the idea of number one (because those universities interested in perpetuating the profitable current situation will try to rally them to their cause). The only way to completely neutralize that is to look at the fact that they all -have- a lot of student debt. Couple those two pieces of legislation together, and the normally rabid sjws ready to mobilize against proposal one will betray every principle they hold in favor of self-interest and advocate for it. The end result? Universities will have to swallow their losses if they churn out students who can't get jobs. Bye, Gender Studies departments! Bye, Sociology Masters students! Bye, affirmative action people who will never be able to academically hold their own and graduate and then get a job to repay their loans! This will have a much greater impact on the useless fluffy majors that churn out sjws. STEM will be safe, and STEM is not prone to sjw-ism. So-- a culling and reduction of those most cancerous elements in academia. No Christine Fair or Melissa Click type will survive this. That will happen, leading to a great cull of academic adjunct professors. They will have to go to the real world and work. And there, life and work and taxes will red pill them. And college tuition will have to sink to levels affordable by the average joe again, so bright kids can actually pay for college once more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933743 127399764,127409733,2017-05-28 01:10:36,">>127409112 >>127408726",,Praceteom,publicgoods_readROADS_2.png,xZQOBYlwH3Cu/fTLjvD1vw==,US,,1495933836 127399764,127409737,2017-05-28 01:10:36,">>127409000 nice trips Your premise is faulty because it's entirely subjective. I can just say it's morally wrong for you to be so selfish. I can even back up why it's selfish, because your way has measurable negative outcomes in the form of externalities. Taking the most slanted biased definition of taxation and calling it immoral has no negative consequences beyond your feefees. Honest question: how would you deal with people that wouldn't contribute toward crowdfunding for anything yet still reap the benefit? There are many instances where you simply can't stop them from doing so. Once again, the greater incentive would be to not invest and let someone else do it. Once most people realize that, nothing gets done.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495933836 127399764,127409773,2017-05-28 01:10:58,">>127399764 I'm a right libertarian and Gary Johnson was a fake ass libertarian. Wanted open borders. I voted Trump.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933858 127399764,127409779,2017-05-28 01:11:01,">>127409584 >his actual position isn't what he stated wow, what a great rebuttal, you're calling the people you cited liars.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933861 127399764,127409861,2017-05-28 01:11:54,">>127409597 but they will still not be able to be employed and they will not have an excuse to run from this fact anymore",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933914 127399764,127409863,2017-05-28 01:11:55,">>127409737 >it's entirely subjective No - it's objective. God is the basis of objectivity. >b-but I don't believe in God I don't care. You're irrelevant.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495933915 127399764,127409906,2017-05-28 01:12:20,">>127399856 >>127399902 >>127399969 >>127400026 >>127400189 >>127400296 cringe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495933940 127399764,127410064,2017-05-28 01:14:05,">>127409737 >Honest question: how would you deal with people that wouldn't contribute toward crowdfunding for anything yet still reap the benefit? like what",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495934045 127399764,127410149,2017-05-28 01:15:00,">>127409861 Without student loan forgiveness, the colleges will not keep them comfortable while they just sit there for years collecting debt and avoiding the real world and being indoctrinated. They will have to wake up to reality. The harsh real world of having to hold a job and keep it will force them to do it for the first time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495934100 127399764,127410231,2017-05-28 01:16:05,">>127409779 I'll quote him from the book, since you're a sub-human low-IQ dipshit who can't read! ""Although national defense is primarily a public good, there are parts of it which can be sold separately to individuals or groups. Foreign states would probably treat a national defense agency as a government with respect to such matters as passports and extradition treaties. It could get some income by selling passports, arranging to extradite criminals from foreign countries at the request of local protection agencies, and similar enterprises. In addition, there would be some areas which a national defense agency would have the option of defending or not defending. Hawaii, to take an extreme example, could be excluded from the nuclear umbrella covering the mainland. Communities on the edges of the defended area, although necessarily protected from nuclear attack by any national defense system, could be defended or not defended against conventional attack. A national defense agency could go into these areas and inform those individuals and corporations who had the most to gain by being defended (large landholders, insurance agencies, and the like) that they would have to pay a price for defense. In all of these ways a national defense agency might raise enough money to finance national defense without taxation. Obviously, a system that depends on local agencies evolved for a different purpose or a ramshackle system financed by charity, passport sales, and threats to Hawaiian insurance companies is economically very imperfect. So is a system financed by coercion and run by government. These arguments suggest that it may be possible to defend against foreign nations by voluntary means. They do not prove that it will be; I am only balancing one imperfect system against another and trying to guess which will work better.""",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495934165 127399764,127410272,2017-05-28 01:16:35,">>127407766 Thanks for the link, I'm reading that now. My question about science has, for the most part, been answered. You know Planck solved the ultraviolet catastrophe while commissioned from an electric company? Wouldn't you know.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495934195 127399764,127410338,2017-05-28 01:17:25,">>127410231 such salt, also tl;dr",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495934245 127399764,127410556,2017-05-28 01:19:49,">>127410272 Most discoveries and inventions throughout all of history have been by a single person largely doing their own thing. That's important to note whenever someone tries to argue you need massive funding of enormous groups of people working on research and development projects for humans to ever have success in scientific discovery and technological innovation.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495934389 127399764,127410628,2017-05-28 01:20:39,">>127399764 >ITT lets take a concept to the extreme and make the entire concept look bad from the get go",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495934439 127399764,127410635,2017-05-28 01:20:47,">>127409341 Those things were all shit and available only to a privileged few before they became public goods. History is entirely counter to what this is saying. Private roads only lead to where the builder finds profitable. Increased availability of transportation has had enormous positive externalities in facilitating the work force and providing a larger pool for employers to draw on, bringing costs down while providing opportunity for those in the labour force .>>127409863 That's a cool story, bro. Just ignore everyone that thinks otherwise. I'm sure your ideology will catch on that way. Once again, reality is a thing. You actually have to listen and compromise with other people, in any society, government or no. It's called living with other people. If you don't want to do that, go live in the bush.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495934447 127399764,127410733,2017-05-28 01:21:47,">>127410635 thats literally their wetdream",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495934507 127399764,127410912,2017-05-28 01:23:51,">>127409584 It basically says that the US might be able to defend its self by non taxation, voluntary mean but this defense is not gauranteed. The author concludes that to tional defense financed by taxes—financed, in other words, by money taken by force from the taxpayers? In such a situation I would not try to abolish that last vestige of government. I do not like paying taxes, but I would rather pay them to Washington than to Moscow—the rates are lower. I would still regard the government as a criminal organization, but one which was, by a freak of fate, temporarily useful. It would be like a gang of bandits who, while occasionally robbing the villages in their territory, served to keep off other and more rapacious gangs. I do not approve of any government, but I will tolerate one so long as the only other choice is another, worse government. Meanwhile, I would do my best to develop voluntary institutions that might eventually take over the business of defense. That is precisely what I meant when I said, near the beginning of this book, that I thought all government functions were divided into two classes—those we could do away with today and those we hope to be able to do away with tomorrow. las vestige of government"" is required. I would agree, militaries require destruction of the individual and a strong hierarchical command in order to function effectively. Individual communities defending eachother have been historical crushed by organized nationalist militaries",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495934631 127399764,127410966,2017-05-28 01:24:27,">>127400968 im a white hispanic, and i date a girl from there. I hate niggers. but this bitch....i think she really is a kkk nazi. and the kicker is she is and italian/armenian mix mutt adopted and raised by white southern baptist in that cesspool alabama. i will give their college footbal props....even though thats all they got. even my bitch is trash",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495934667 127399764,127411067,2017-05-28 01:25:50,">>127410635 Positive externalities are positive - people who have need of things make them happen, and if other people can benefit from what someone else did in their own interests that's a good thing. >reality is a thing Yeah - the one governed by an omniscient, omnipotent God who's laid down objective moral rules for humanity to live by. I'm not looking to convince you - I'm stating how I'm living and to what standard moral behavior is to be judged. If you don't like that I'm sticking to rules like ""theft is wrong"", ""lying is wrong"", ""violence is wrong"", or other such rules, I'd say you're a complete moral aberrant, since those rules are only contested really by people most would deem incredibly mentally unwell.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495934750 127399764,127411132,2017-05-28 01:26:31,">>127410912 I know what his position is - I've read him many, many times. >>127410231",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495934791 127399764,127411275,2017-05-28 01:28:13,">>127410635 >>127408726",,Praceteom,publicgoods_readROADS_2.5.png,TKEfPcIwU9a6hcgfaxVZ8Q==,US,,1495934893 127399764,127411363,2017-05-28 01:29:10,">>127410966 >white hispanic xD",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495934950 127399764,127411429,2017-05-28 01:29:55,">>127410635 >>127408726 t.",,Praceteom,publicgoods_readROADS_3.png,WAsxHLJLvCP3SKfxzPU+pg==,US,,1495934995 127399764,127411606,2017-05-28 01:32:10,">>127411067 i agree with you man. its what drives me crazy when people knock Christianity. I'm not a theist but you do have to respect and appreciate the values it has produced for western society in the context of the values and standard moral/acceptable behavior. The Ten Commandments are pretty much the standard rules for modern society when dealing with each other in all interactions. Even (((Judaism)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935130 127399764,127411646,2017-05-28 01:32:38,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935158 127399764,127411658,2017-05-28 01:32:46,">>127402699 >Children do not have the maturity nor the understanding to consent to sex But they have the maturity to consent to an irreversible sex change operation?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935166 127399764,127411695,2017-05-28 01:33:10,">>127411363 im a cajun beaner. figure it out yourself",,Anonymous,1495482392026.jpg,d0Q7ov6TYKTxZuyF2nxCjg==,US,,1495935190 127399764,127411772,2017-05-28 01:34:12,">>127410635 >>127410635",,Praceteom,publicgoods_readROADS_4.png,6BDj96cnooUeazqMiObUsQ==,US,,1495935252 127399764,127411831,2017-05-28 01:34:57,">>127411606 >christianity >producing western values t mexican intellectuals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935297 127399764,127411964,2017-05-28 01:36:28,">>127411363 Laissez les bons temps rouler puta madre",,Anonymous,Crawfish Étouffée.jpg,Qr4qX0QdHvj0gwIglcsihQ==,US,,1495935388 127399764,127411970,2017-05-28 01:36:33,">>127399764 My thing is mainly about total free market economy. Buying and selling of goods and services without interference is a good thing. But when it comes to investment banking, they need the shit regulated out of them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935393 127399764,127412034,2017-05-28 01:37:28,">>127411067 What I'm saying is that once people realize they can still get the benefit without paying in, they won't pay in. Then nothing happens and there are no positive externalities. You can stick to those morals without taking them to an ideological extreme that has no context. There are practical and biological reasons why those things are wrong. 200k years ago if you were living in the bush and starving, would it be 'wrong' for you to steal someone else's food? Wrong to them, not to you. And in this case, the benefits of not dying would far outweigh the risk of...dying. Thankfully, we've gotten society to a stable and complex place where we don't have to make such drastic cost-benefit decisions. Violence is wrong because a) this person might have some knowledge or skill that I don't, and b) I have a sense of empathy that goes back beyond the formation of our own species, extends beyond it, and makes me realize that if I act in good faith toward others, they will do the same for me (mostly). Boom. Easy. No fluff about objective morality involved. Now we have the law to help us enforce these things, which makes it even easier to live by them. This has been totally off track, regardless, but I typed it out and I may as well post it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495935448 127399764,127412067,2017-05-28 01:37:52,">>127411970 >Buying and selling of goods and services without interference is a good thing k shlomo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935472 127399764,127412084,2017-05-28 01:38:08,">>127411970 Do you think the current banking apparatus is a free market phenomenon? Do you know what the Federal Reserve is?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495935488 127399764,127412145,2017-05-28 01:38:41,">>127411831 never said i was intellectual. thanks i guess. i'm not a mexican. those are bigger mutts than me. im Spaniard and cajun french and Native American. And a Texan. I bet you are a yankee arent you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935521 127399764,127412210,2017-05-28 01:39:29,">ctrl f ""borders"" 2 hits. you are all jew fags itt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935569 127399764,127412418,2017-05-28 01:42:07,">>127412067 What's the beef there Lenin?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935727 127399764,127412476,2017-05-28 01:42:39,">>127411429 That's so disingenuous. Every example is trivial shit that a single person could afford. We are talking massive investments that absolutely require societal investment and can't be burdened by an individual. Nothing but a reductio ad absurdum fallacy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495935759 127399764,127412496,2017-05-28 01:42:53,">>127412034 >What I'm saying is that once people realize they can still get the benefit without paying in, they won't pay in Sometimes that happens, other times it doesn't. People can get the benefit of good dining service without tipping, but most people still tend to tip. There are reasons for humans to engage in activities besides an immediate monetary cost. >Then nothing happens No - in the case of most things with positive externalities, they *DO* happen regardless of other people chipping in or not. That's both empirically demonstrable and intuitively plausible - a person who has a need to get a good from point A to point B does not twiddle their thumbs sitting around wondering how he could possibly do so while simultaneously stopping other people from benefiting from what he or she needs to get done anyway, and if they decide it's not possible they just do nothing and stagnate. They make the something they need happen regardless of whether or not other people may benefit, because *they need that something*.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495935773 127399764,127412520,2017-05-28 01:43:11,">>127412418 >cites kike authors >calls others jewish whatever you say shlomo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935791 127399764,127412630,2017-05-28 01:44:32,">>127412034 >200k years ago if you were living in the bush and starving, would it be 'wrong' for you to steal someone else's food? Yes. Morality is objective. It's not relative. You can have different opinions about what you think is *NORMATIVELY* right or wrong, but I don't care about normative morality because it doesn't correspond to objective moral truth.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495935872 127399764,127412777,2017-05-28 01:46:23,">>127412520 Don't really read much political shit, but that buying and selling bit is pretty much the base of libertarian economics policies. Not really sure which jew said it, but you're reading into it WAY too much.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495935983 127399764,127412828,2017-05-28 01:47:03,">>127405162 Right, to HIS place, and no one elses.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936023 127399764,127412864,2017-05-28 01:47:29,">ID: uHdLs25y Kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495936049 127399764,127413005,2017-05-28 01:49:08,">>127412476 >and can't be burdened by an individual Most individuals can't fund any commercial projects themselves. But people who need something make it happen. You're trying to make an argument that the scale of things is just ""too far"" beyond what people could manage to voluntarily fund here, but people voluntarily fund *WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY* more massive projects than the vast majority of public infrastructure projects.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495936148 127399764,127413013,2017-05-28 01:49:10,">>127412496 im sure the people who resist or dont comply will be erradicated off. i wonder how that will turn out if you look at the statistics by race in the end.....",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936150 127399764,127413039,2017-05-28 01:49:26,">>127412777 10/10 shitpost",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936166 127399764,127413143,2017-05-28 01:50:58,">>127413039 Didn't know Stalin gave you time to troll.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936258 127399764,127413163,2017-05-28 01:51:15,"Take the TRUE redpill, my semi-redpilled friends.",,Anonymous,nazi_rally.jpg,mo80Olr4EJC2lP64OuCnBw==,US,,1495936275 127399764,127413235,2017-05-28 01:52:11,">>127413143 >you're a communist if you don't listen to kikes k",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936331 127399764,127413456,2017-05-28 01:55:13,">>127413235 Well appraently you don't believe with free market economy, so you must lean to the socialist side of the issue. Want to go steal a factory from some guy who built it with his own ambition, red guard?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936513 127399764,127413625,2017-05-28 01:57:29,">>127413456 >presuming im a socialist typical, every edgelord teen presumes that everyone with whom they disagree is a commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936649 127399764,127413787,2017-05-28 01:59:37,">>127413625 Well then tell me where this idea is wrong, you know since you're so above it. Try beating the idea, not some retard shit like Antifa.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936777 127399764,127413987,2017-05-28 02:01:57,">>127412084 total bullshit. The federal reserve is a private institution but it still has a monopoly on currency creation. It is not in line with free market principles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936917 127399764,127414010,2017-05-28 02:02:19,">>127413787 >ur a socialist keep shitposting basement dweller",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495936939 127399764,127414067,2017-05-28 02:03:06,">>127413987 Can you read?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495936986 127399764,127414313,2017-05-28 02:06:01,">>127414010 >0/10 troll skills Fuck you're terrible at this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495937161 127399764,127414354,2017-05-28 02:06:32,">>127407310 nice raid",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495937192 127399764,127414425,2017-05-28 02:07:24,">>127414313 >repeats the same lines over and over >criticizes others pottery",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495937244 127399764,127414449,2017-05-28 02:07:43,">>127414354 go back to plebbit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495937263 127399764,127414937,2017-05-28 02:14:02,">>127413005 Specifically, like what? Public infrastructure projects are more than just their immediate costs, they have maintenance costs as well. They often have ongoing externalities, not just a one-off. >>127412496 We are talking about things that need to be crowdfunded. Not a single person deciding to do something. The average joe can't afford much on his own. Your idealized billionaire captain of industry is far in the minority. The average joe has no choice but to twiddle his thumbs until enough people are on board with the idea to crowd fund. The idea that people are entirely rational and perfectly informed is just not true, and good ideas can seem like bad ideas not worthy of investment. People largely do not like change until the benefits are smack-you-in-the-face obvious. Look at vaccines. They are something that needs to be approached as a group, yet a bunch of morons ruin it because they are irrational.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495937642 127399764,127414979,2017-05-28 02:14:41,">>127414449 delete system32 and reboot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495937681 127399764,127415056,2017-05-28 02:15:33,">>127414979 t mexican intellectuals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495937733 127399764,127415132,2017-05-28 02:16:31,"discord: CaDkRqZ Starting a book club that will read through the recommended reading list, and possibly more. Going to wait to get a few people before starting. I know a lot of you fuckers are being lazy and not actually educating yourselves.",,Anonymous,lawtiat-quote-picture.jpg,avHwjph77gdRpQx5t2g7DQ==,US,,1495937791 127399764,127415139,2017-05-28 02:16:34,">>127415056 we had fun with kids like you in iraq....",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495937794 127399764,127415220,2017-05-28 02:17:32,">>127415139 nice larping",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495937852 127399764,127415306,2017-05-28 02:18:36,">>127413456 Markets fail all the fuckin time. Keep them free where you can, but sometimes regulation is absolutely necessary to prevent market failure. Literally the concept that has been driving mainstream economics for the last 100 years. Called neoliberalism, look it up fag",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495937916 127399764,127415310,2017-05-28 02:18:38,">>127413163 Why not just nationalize the economy get rid of the (((international financial institutions))) and use free market principles instead of trying to centralize the economy under a socialist system? Makes more sense to me. I agree with a lot of the national socialists principles, just not the socialist part. They even had a shortage of shoes in Nazi Germany because central planning doesn't work.",,Anonymous,1487389843275.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,US,,1495937918 127399764,127415492,2017-05-28 02:20:50,">>127415310 >claims to be right wing >opposes the government jude",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495938050 127399764,127415928,2017-05-28 02:27:00,">>127414937 Private infrastructure doesn't have maintenance costs? Because if you're making the statement >Public infrastructure projects are more than just their immediate costs, they have maintenance costs as well as if it were a substantive counter-point, the only way you could hold that is if you thought private infrastructure were different. >Specifically, like what? Wal-Mart has more in infrastructure assets and maintenance costs than most entire states by a significant margin. >>127414937 >We are talking about things that need to be crowdfunded Sure. Charities are crowdfunded and there's no tangible benefit to the donator. Roads there is a tangible benefit to the funder in there being a road and a non-tangible one in them helping benefit tons of people. People don't need to be entirely rational. Government bureaucrats are significantly *DUMBER* than their peers. The smart guys go into business - the C students go into government. That's been the case for decades and decades and decades. Yet it's these self-interested morons you want to invest an authority to rob people with. It's absolutely ludicrously ridiculous how you can sit there and make the argument that people are fucking stupid and *THEREFORE* you should have demonstrably even *DUMBER* people violently subjugate everyone else. Jesus Christ it's mind boggling how you can sit there and unironically make that sort of case.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495938420 127399764,127415958,2017-05-28 02:27:21,">>127415056 3rd ID Aviation Brigade. i'll be honest only Half larping...i never left BIAP. your still a fag though. and still not mexican. i know you are trolling but i really hate being called that, besides if you seen me you wouldnt call me that. im pasty white",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495938441 127399764,127416121,2017-05-28 02:29:39,">>127415958 >IM PASTY SO IM WHITE whatever you say Paco",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495938579 127399764,127416469,2017-05-28 02:34:26,">>127415132 Add ""The Kingdom of God is Within You"" to that list if it's not there.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1495938866 127399764,127416540,2017-05-28 02:35:14,">>127415492 kek, yes because the juden aren't the ones attempting to implement the government. Those jews are trying to subvert us all into not paying taxes and minding our own damn business because that'll really help them get their sheckels.",,Anonymous,bimbodickins.png,BufnXl6SabTVzhl5KcBdTw==,US,,1495938914 127399764,127416672,2017-05-28 02:37:01,">>127416540 >yes goy turning everyone into anti-social autists isn't to our benefit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495939021 127428224,127428224,2017-05-28 05:35:18,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - HELICOPTER THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH US EDITION,Anonymous,fully automated helicopter rides.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,SK,,1495949718 127428224,127428281,2017-05-28 05:36:14,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,libertarian masterpost.png,N1a+QThhl0g8UaoaMc+JEw==,SK,,1495949774 127428224,127428340,2017-05-28 05:37:15,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,reading list lrg.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,SK,,1495949835 127428224,127428414,2017-05-28 05:38:30,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux",,Anonymous,lrg tiers.jpg,Ih5kYEktvivoO7oz5G1xhQ==,SK,,1495949910 127428224,127428445,2017-05-28 05:38:56,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJN-lWOcuSI,,Anonymous,lrg flamethrower.png,Zq0uGjcgUHq153vCHzc7WA==,PT,,1495949936 127428224,127428446,2017-05-28 05:38:59,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,SK,,1495949939 127428224,127428493,2017-05-28 05:39:55,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1495949995 127428224,127428536,2017-05-28 05:40:35,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,compass all.jpg,fGLnxMuqb5rwiyi5yv8Vkg==,SK,,1495950035 127428224,127428610,2017-05-28 05:42:00,">>127428445 Cantwell is a kind of a last stand of implicit libertarian identity.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495950120 127428224,127429042,2017-05-28 05:48:35,">>127428610 Can't make my mind up about him. Sometimes he just comes over as a buffoon...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495950515 127428224,127429205,2017-05-28 05:50:54,,,Anonymous,1495939257557.png,xUjTEwGhRz51DLacYZ2KXA==,GB,,1495950654 127428224,127429306,2017-05-28 05:52:40,,,Anonymous,Ancap-goldblack_flag.jpg,X9Pxcz3cSVMwzhhe3XSkYA==,GB,,1495950760 127428224,127429380,2017-05-28 05:53:43,">>127429042 It's called being high energy. Are you even on zinc?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495950823 127428224,127429441,2017-05-28 05:54:51,">>127428281 >>Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? Fuck off. Who the fuck am I to tell someone else what they are allowed to do with their own body.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495950891 127428224,127429576,2017-05-28 05:57:02,">>127428224 Libertarian monarchist here Anyone else thing a constitutional monarchy is the best way to maintain and protect libertarianism from hoards of idiots?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495951022 127428224,127429646,2017-05-28 05:58:06,">>127429380 You still having trouble with the OP links being rejected as spam?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495951086 127428224,127429931,2017-05-28 06:02:32,">>127429576 >constitutional monarchy Well it's not working out too well for us atm mate. How would you see it working in a libertarian context?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495951352 127428224,127430304,2017-05-28 06:08:27,">>127429931 monarch controls the function of the state according to the constitution and protects libertarian policies and ideals in the nation, thats the basic premise with no need to appease idiot masses, and an education specially for the future monarch with no way to jew in on power, there's almost no risk of corruption, some things may need to be taxed for the sake of keeping that institution together, but the tax would be miniscule (think 1-2%) and technically optional in the meantime people are free to act and think whatever they please in the land they own, military costs are down because protecting libertarian ideals means people will strongly desire to join militias",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495951707 127428224,127432588,2017-05-28 06:44:02,">>127428224 bump",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495953842 127428224,127432780,2017-05-28 06:47:03,">>127428281 >The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. ??? so, taxes. unless if you are putting a tollbooth at every driveway got it",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1495954023 127428224,127433069,2017-05-28 06:51:15,">>127430304 The problem I have with monarchy is that its a dice roll. You can just get unlucky and get a terrible king that fucks everything up. An elective monarchy isn't a good solution either because if you look at the Poland with their elective monarchy they just fell pray to international powers and signed half the country away to the Haps(((burgs))). So I'm not entirely sure what the answer is. Plus, who gets to decide who is the original monarch? I think strong hierarchy is necessary to guarantee freedom but the mechanism that puts people into the top of those hierarchies has to be more than arbitrary or random.",,Anonymous,hoppean libertarianism.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,US,,1495954275 127428224,127433207,2017-05-28 06:53:11,">>127430304 OK so how does a country like that get started, given you don't initially have a royal line? Also I worry about the training bit - I mean look at Charles, all the best schools etc and the man's a drooling libtard. Given that though, if minarchy is what you want, I can see a royal head of state working...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495954391 127428224,127433328,2017-05-28 06:54:54,">>127428224 I quite prefer monarchism, but with a large number of individual rights being given to the general public.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495954494 127428224,127433386,2017-05-28 06:55:40,">>127433069 but then you look at ethiopian monarchy and you see that special education can make for kings that do the right thing >>127433207 im guessing it happens due to the ambitions of an individual and is incredibly unlikely to actually happen nowadays as for minarchy, I dont like the whole lots of little guys with regional power thing, nobility made old school monarchy really confusing and corrupt",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495954540 127428224,127433658,2017-05-28 06:59:39,">>127428224 Throwing commies from helicopters is so 70s. We should do something new like launching them into space with railguns.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495954779 127428224,127433862,2017-05-28 07:02:49,">>127433386 >minarchy In the sense of minimal govt. given responsibility for the smallest possible number of functions, such as defence of the realm. And yes, I think if you devolve power the risk is feudalism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495954969 127428224,127433869,2017-05-28 07:02:51,">>127433386 Yes I agree you can condition a king to be a good king but there is a human element. People are not just the make up of their environment. You get a shitty king because you lost the genetic lottery that you're playing with you're country and you're fucked. Maybe its more stable than democracy but democracy is such a shaky system that I don't think that should be seen as much an achievement. I'm a bit more sympathetic to meritocracy based system of fascism for the central government that is bureaucratic, small, and guarantees a certain number of rights for its citizens. Now a system like that is dangerous because it is predicated on a certain set of ideas and if those ideas are contaminated by intellectual pathogens like leftism then the entire system has the capability to turn tyrannical.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495954971 127428224,127434109,2017-05-28 07:06:12,">>127433862 I don't hate the idea of micro state confederations that are bound together by common currency and military alliance but leave the day to day running of those areas to the local populations. More autonomy seems to be a good thing for freedom so long as it does not generate conflict between other micro states within the confederacy.",,Anonymous,commies vs uk ball.png,z77X2QkIMrUcSlgWYFknsA==,US,,1495955172 127428224,127434247,2017-05-28 07:07:55,">>127429441 Go ahead, fucking overdose for all I care. Not on my property, though.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495955275 127428224,127434304,2017-05-28 07:08:43,">>127429646 Yeah, at least not the jewtube ones anymore. ARE. YOU. ON. ZINC?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495955323 127428224,127434379,2017-05-28 07:09:44,">>127432780 No. If you don't want to pay the company for their roads because you're not using them, you don't pay them and you have to pay an individual fee every time you decide to use them. That's a subscription, not a tax.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495955384 127428224,127434504,2017-05-28 07:11:28,">>127429576 A monarchy is better than a democracy, I'll give you that. My ideal would be a military/citizen coup every time shit goes south. That way the population stays sharp and free at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495955488 127428224,127434515,2017-05-28 07:11:41,">>127434304 Don't get it, other generals OPs are filled with links. It's a commie plot, I tell you... >zinc Should I be?",,Anonymous,hoppe2-e1439880724629.jpg,pSO/gLdjULr7+l3nOmlwKg==,GB,,1495955501 127428224,127434616,2017-05-28 07:13:24,">>127433069 On the other hand, a bad monarchy costs a vial of poison to fix itself. A bad democracy costs a sea of blood.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495955604 127428224,127434650,2017-05-28 07:13:50,">>127433658 Aiborne woodchippers.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495955630 127428224,127434794,2017-05-28 07:15:45,">>127434515 Well, fuck. Gookmoot relies on bots to do his job while commies are free to spread their propaganda. And yes, you should be popping zinc like it's candy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495955745 127428224,127434995,2017-05-28 07:18:47,">>127434109 Well my answer was specifically in the context of regional 'nobility', implying each area basically has one person in charge - some sort of lord etc. The problem with this approach (as history shows) is that competition for these posts often consumes society - or they are hereditary, which brings a whole slew of new problems. But a series of semi-autonomous states or micronations may be what ancap would look like, with covenants - although ,of course, no govt at all.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495955927 127428224,127435652,2017-05-28 07:27:35,,,Anonymous,1486258936401.jpg,WcZ0TAoWqb+0VprInC2z9g==,GB,,1495956455 127428224,127435679,2017-05-28 07:28:00,">>127428224 Why don't libertarians/ancaps move to a third world county? >no state oversight since corruption is that high >wild capitalism >no social programs and barely any taxes >no regulations >potential workers are plentiful >can live like upper class with what would be middle class expenses in a developed country",,Anonymous,libertarianism snek.jpg,1s3FPAifERSdVjv6vJXCLA==,US,,1495956480 127428224,127435770,2017-05-28 07:29:12,">>127428224 >>127428281 >>127428340 >>127428414 >>127428446 >>127428493 >>127428536 >>127428610 >>127429380 >>127434247 >>127434304 >>127434379 >>127434504 >>127434616 >>127434650 >>127434794 >>127434995",,Anonymous,2804f9fdd6166837ed23cfc06457265da0c8cc36dc83d5b638f0471a7c483bc8.png,3wVXz2xdexrMlDzm76Q/UA==,AU,,1495956552 127428224,127435774,2017-05-28 07:29:16,">>127435679 Niggers, obviously. Though it is tempting.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495956556 127428224,127436147,2017-05-28 07:33:56,">>127435770 /nsg/ is a strategic ally to us. Tanks ain't shit against helicopters, though.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495956836 127428224,127436305,2017-05-28 07:35:54,">>127435770 Posting swastika lewds. What would schiklguber say?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495956954 127428224,127436553,2017-05-28 07:39:24,">>127436147 pic related >>127436305 The ""hurr durr degeneracy"" is a shit meme. I'm out, I was in the wrong thread to begin with.",,Anonymous,1493327451514.jpg,ulDzOrwQf1zQ+9+unJ6Kfg==,AU,,1495957164 127428224,127436583,2017-05-28 07:39:46,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495957186 127428224,127437032,2017-05-28 07:46:45,">>127428224 bumperino",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495957605 127428224,127437154,2017-05-28 07:48:36,,,Anonymous,hippity-hoppity-cant-afford-property-16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,GB,,1495957716 127428224,127437193,2017-05-28 07:49:06,"All right, to get a discussion going: What is your stance on the war in Syria?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495957746 127428224,127437299,2017-05-28 07:50:37,">>127437193 We need to build gaschambers and take out the civilians shielding ISIS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495957837 127428224,127437501,2017-05-28 07:53:35,">>127437193 manipulation from the golf states to keep their gas monopoly against Iran Assad may be a socialist (baathist) ""dictator"" but he didn't try to impose Islamic law on his population and never meant to attack anyone don't send your fucking troops/send aid unless one of the factions bomb/attack you ie : only ISIS should blown the fuck out",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495958015 127428224,127437573,2017-05-28 07:54:28,">>127437299 Do you support US boots on the ground, or some other form of intervention, or just decriminalising being a mercenary?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495958068 127428224,127437646,2017-05-28 07:55:34,">>127437573 We don't need boots on the ground if we stopped supplying ISIS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495958134 127428224,127437677,2017-05-28 07:56:01,">>127437193 So a dictator vs islamist vs communist.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495958161 127428224,127437957,2017-05-28 07:59:28,">>127437646 That's fair enough. Fucking kikes in the government. >>127437501 This; Assad may not be exactly who we want, but if we want stability in the region, he's our man. >>127437677 Saddam and Kaddafi were both dictators and their land was better off under them. If we want imperialism, we take their land directly, not this neocon bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495958368 127428224,127438551,2017-05-28 08:07:56,">>127437957 I don't rally consider him as our man but the best man because he is a smart guy who knows how to rule this country and isn't a bloodthirsty retard,he was managing the country during the protests and the civil war right now the best way possible and that's admirable (also because of golf states resources manipulation having socialist measures is common sense without going full Chavez in this region)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495958876 127428224,127438838,2017-05-28 08:12:14,Bumpy,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495959134 127428224,127438958,2017-05-28 08:14:15,">>127434247 Good. We agree.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495959255 127428224,127439094,2017-05-28 08:16:21,"Another question: How to tackle the invasion of Europe? 1. Gibraltar Strait 2. Mediterranean 3. Aegean Sea",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495959381 127428224,127439171,2017-05-28 08:17:26,>>127428224,,Anonymous,NoTread.jpg,AIgWVm1ogS3kWNMP+UI+kA==,NO,,1495959446 127428224,127439266,2017-05-28 08:18:58,"How many of you choose these ideologies, because you want to be right-wing but are afraid to scare girls away and lose facebook friends?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495959538 127428224,127439534,2017-05-28 08:23:11,">>127439266 I know you're baiting I've always been a right wing guy but I put my principles first which are ""don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495959791 127428224,127439953,2017-05-28 08:28:52,">>127439266 Wanting to live with our peers as free men, without subjugation and licking the boot is all...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495960132 127428224,127440643,2017-05-28 08:39:37,">>127439266 I chose them because of my conscience. I don't lie to myself. I love liberty and I see it being tread upon, and I don't like it one bit. This is not what my great-great grandparents fought for in the Great War. This is not what my great grandparents fought for when they joined the Uprising. This is not what my grandparents threw molotovs at Soviet tanks for. This is not what my parents took to the streets for to protest the communist regime and drive it out in the Velvet Revolution. This is not what I will fight for. Liberty or death.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495960777 127428224,127440768,2017-05-28 08:41:12,">>127428224 Get out with your memes",,Anonymous,Heydrich.jpg,dtNdKDrgy61e7ytPrbE7Ag==,AU,,1495960872 127428224,127440863,2017-05-28 08:42:54,">right wing libertarian I think a more appropriate term would be militant libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495960974 127428224,127440884,2017-05-28 08:43:11,">>127440768 Heh. When you get killed by a government that does not even control any land, you know you're a failure.",,Anonymous,anthropoid.jpg,BLslSsrQcXW4L6Cs5X1oYw==,SK,,1495960991 127428224,127440955,2017-05-28 08:44:17,">>127440863 Call it what you will. We believe in property, which is why we call ourselves right-wingers. A traditional, capitalistic system is what made the West function.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495961057 127428224,127440964,2017-05-28 08:44:27,">>127428224 Why on the internet alt-right is so tough, talking about throwing commies out of helicopters and shiet and in real life they are scared of antifa who basically are bunch of faggots?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495961067 127428224,127441026,2017-05-28 08:45:31,">>127440964 nobody is scared of antifa in frogland they die in one punch kek",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495961131 127428224,127441101,2017-05-28 08:46:30,it's a dead movement in the usa that has been taken over by lefties who want open borders. it's unfortunate because it is objectively the best ideology. it only lives on in various militia groups are infiltrated by the fbi anyway,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495961190 127428224,127441152,2017-05-28 08:47:14,">>127441026 t. alt-right pussy when are you going to stage actual demonstrations instead of just hanging out with rednecks on some rallies?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495961234 127428224,127441156,2017-05-28 08:47:16,">>127440964 Scared of antifa? If anything, the Oathkeepers are the pussies for refusing to fight against communism just because it'd mean siding with white nationalists. With that being said, antifa got their asses kicked pretty much everywhere.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495961236 127428224,127441244,2017-05-28 08:48:30,">>127441152 >what is generation identity That's just the European one. You can't exactly hold West Eurocucks to our standards, but they do actually have their own rallies.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495961310 127428224,127441253,2017-05-28 08:48:42,>>127440768,,Anonymous,"Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1972-039-44,_Heydrich-Attentat.jpg",zmXfEqE7knrJa7Tjfm4NTw==,GB,,1495961322 127428224,127441273,2017-05-28 08:49:01,"CucKS nuts get swole behind security & anonymity of their keyboard. OP you are just a pussy flexing your Anon muscles",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495961341 127428224,127441300,2017-05-28 08:49:23,"So Lolbertarians basically don't care about the invasion of migrants, and fags/dykes having rights? What a bunch of faggots.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495961363 127428224,127441365,2017-05-28 08:50:17,"If you're curious about monarchy as a path to libertarianism, read Hoppe's comments in his book Democracy. He explains how monarchy degenerated first from Feudal kings, then to absolute kings and finally to constitutional or ceremonial kings.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495961417 127428224,127441401,2017-05-28 08:50:49,">>127441152 I participate in the Jeanne d'Arc commemoration in Paris every year and no antifags have the balls to come here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495961449 127428224,127441436,2017-05-28 08:51:21,">>127428224 >libertarian >helicopter rides You know pinochet was the original neoliberal, right? Retards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495961481 127428224,127441442,2017-05-28 08:51:24,">>127441300 we're the part that care about it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495961484 127428224,127441447,2017-05-28 08:51:27,">>127441300 Yep. Gay communities raising hemp crops and running immigrant hostels is our end game",,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1495961487 127428224,127441514,2017-05-28 08:52:41,">>127441436 > neoliberal I never get this meme",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495961561 127428224,127441517,2017-05-28 08:52:43,">>127435679 Nah senpai we should just move to Liechtenstein because it's a minarchist monarchy with strong powers for the king, an industrious and low time preference population and qt. German blonds.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495961563 127428224,127441530,2017-05-28 08:52:55,">>127439266 I choose this ideology because it's the only white man's ideology. And since U.S is not white, you have to solve that problem first.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495961575 127428224,127441537,2017-05-28 08:53:01,">>127441447 wow, that guy is pretty based",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495961581 127428224,127441574,2017-05-28 08:53:40,">>127441253 Thanks for helping out Beneš. If you're a kraut, you have to get out.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495961620 127428224,127441599,2017-05-28 08:54:05,">>127441537 welcome to the club",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495961645 127428224,127441602,2017-05-28 08:54:07,">>127441365 hoppe is a dumb faggot. anyone who seriously advocates for a monarchy isn't worth listening to",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495961647 127428224,127441619,2017-05-28 08:54:23,">>127441537 That's why we basically worship Hoppe. Communists shall be hanged on helicopters and the ropes cut off above the sea.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495961663 127428224,127441635,2017-05-28 08:54:37,">>127441436 >ameriturd education (you)/10",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1495961677 127428224,127441664,2017-05-28 08:55:00,">>127441602 ANCAP ideology is useless in the current year. Though I am an ancap at heart.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495961700 127428224,127441681,2017-05-28 08:55:20,">>127441273 >t. MIR I literally do pushups between posts.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495961720 127428224,127441745,2017-05-28 08:56:17,">>127441599 Have we started the fire...? >>127441619 Who's the ""leftist"" version of Hoppe?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495961777 127428224,127441783,2017-05-28 08:56:57,">>127441300 >don't care Look here, retard, it says otherwise in the FAQ, so go choke on a Muslim dick and be apologetic about them the next time they blow up in your shithole. Even the meek libertarian party of Slovakia is against immigration.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495961817 127428224,127441835,2017-05-28 08:57:35,">>127441745 What do you mean a leftist version of a based person? All leftists are a threat to liberty.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495961855 127428224,127441841,2017-05-28 08:57:41,">>127441664 all you need to do is take away a woman's right to vote and kick out all the brown people and things will fix themselves. there, it's all fixed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495961861 127428224,127441857,2017-05-28 08:57:56,">>127441537 Yes he is. Remember this is paleo and right libertarianism, and ancap. Very different animal from the likes of Gary Johnson et al.",,Anonymous,1486107510992.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1495961876 127428224,127441901,2017-05-28 08:58:31,">>127441436 Anyone who kills lefties in a glorious way is a friend of mine. Technically Stalin was based for having killed millions of communists, however his killing of tens of millions of non-communists outweighs the benefits.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495961911 127428224,127441952,2017-05-28 08:59:16,,,Anonymous,asdf.png,qzqou2/zLzEvOgfcT3gMkA==,LV,,1495961956 127428224,127441955,2017-05-28 08:59:17,">>127441783 You don't know me, you faggot, If I was a mudshit lover (and I'm not), I would also love penises and muslims, my original post says otherwise... dumbfuck >>127441835 I know, but you're the ""right wing"" libertarians, right? What about the left wing libertarian faggots?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495961957 127428224,127441980,2017-05-28 08:59:36,">>127441841 No army - your retarded country invades because ""muh democracy"".",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495961976 127428224,127442012,2017-05-28 09:00:05,">>127441745 >leftist version of Hoppe As zealous, you mean? Probably Pol Pot or something, that guy was nuts.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495962005 127428224,127442019,2017-05-28 09:00:17,">>127441745 yes the fire rises >Who's the ""leftist"" version of Hoppe? in the ""there shall not be any tolerance from rich people,straights and traditionalists from our social order"" or a leftist intellectual contemporary with Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495962017 127428224,127442108,2017-05-28 09:01:27,">>127441955 I saw you as guilty by association, but now I see I was mistaken. You see, just like not all Frenchmen want their country to become a caliphate, not all libertarians want their movement to be co-opted by trannies and communists.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495962087 127428224,127442118,2017-05-28 09:01:36,">>127441955 >What about the left wing libertarian faggots? don't know...Zizek ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495962096 127428224,127442169,2017-05-28 09:02:28,">>127441602 You're the dumbass for thinking he advocates for monarchy. And you're probably an ever bigger dumbass for thinking you know better than a man who dedicated his life to this subject. Just saying bro.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495962148 127428224,127442241,2017-05-28 09:03:19,">>127440964 How many commies have you killed then",,Anonymous,16440964_139379693238635_2778439507995787264_n.webm,O/S+6mZ92Q6WqB8VSnLURw==,US,,1495962199 127428224,127442272,2017-05-28 09:03:45,">>127442108 yea, I understand, m8 For some reason, the few nationalists I know think you're degenerate leftist faggots They think you're as bad as liberals... >>127442118 >zizek Pas la première fois que j'entends parler de ce type... Il est con ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495962225 127428224,127442287,2017-05-28 09:04:00,">>127428224 remove all the scum",,Anonymous,remove-collectivists.png,CLe8g50CyHO5lt8gK4rDYQ==,DE,,1495962240 127428224,127442422,2017-05-28 09:05:54,">>127440643 Fucking this. Problem is 99% of world population are dumb sheep who want daddy government to take care of them so that's why we won't live in a Libertarian society in our lifetime because there will always be dumb people that politicians will take advantage of to line their pockets with tax money.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495962354 127428224,127442508,2017-05-28 09:07:14,">>127442169 tugas ancap ao poder bora atirar malta do bloco dum helicóptero?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495962434 127428224,127442516,2017-05-28 09:07:20,">>127442272 They must be talking about the autists who aren't race-realists or even remotely woke about the JQ. Hoppe is probably the best example of our ideology untouched by the recent political shifts, Jeffrey Cucker is more lefty, and Cantwell/Molyneux/That Guy T went full 1433 as a result of leftism.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495962440 127428224,127442571,2017-05-28 09:08:12,">>127442516 >Cucker kek, nice name",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495962492 127428224,127442580,2017-05-28 09:08:24,">>127442272 Il est l'attardé d'anarch que tu croises dans les manifs mais il a actuellement lu des bouquins et essaie d'être ""tro chokant ta vu"" en parlant d'immigration de manière cynique /leftypol/ l'adore",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495962504 127428224,127442616,2017-05-28 09:08:54,">>127442422 Like I keep saying - a violent revolution or other struggle is long overdue.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495962534 127428224,127442640,2017-05-28 09:09:23,">>127441955 All left wing libertarians deserve the rope. The Libertarian Party is them and look who they made a candidate for president.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495962563 127428224,127442653,2017-05-28 09:09:34,">>127442571 His name is Tucker, the memes make themselves.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495962574 127428224,127442705,2017-05-28 09:10:13,">>127442287 Stay away from right wing authoritarians. My private property shall be a refugee for all of them.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495962613 127428224,127442730,2017-05-28 09:10:40,*Blocks your Path,,Anonymous,JT.jpg,+WerQGRQm37QOECj61E2Zg==,US,,1495962640 127428224,127442837,2017-05-28 09:12:22,">>127442580 Le genre de gauchiasse arrogant typiquement insupportable, quoi >>127442640 So basically, the difference between ""left wing"" libertarians and ""right wing"" libertarians is you want migrants, refugees to fuck off and faggots and commies to experiment Death flights ? based What's your opinion on abortion and drugs? Aren't libertarians supposed to ""tolerate"" this? Do you ""tolerate"" it but also hate it?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495962742 127428224,127442871,2017-05-28 09:12:49,">>127442730 there is nothing wrong with misogyny *make a 360 and walk away while he is crying*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495962769 127428224,127442939,2017-05-28 09:14:02,">>127442837 Basically what you said. I am a liberal-conservative. I hate degeneracy but I protect the right to do it, to teach others not to do it. A dumb person will take drugs and in a society where family and productivity is the best values, they will not succeed in that society.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495962842 127428224,127443030,2017-05-28 09:15:28,">>127442939 I'm more...""authoritarian"" about those things : no abortion, no faggotry, no drugs, no communism But I understand and I respect your ideas",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495962928 127428224,127443112,2017-05-28 09:16:38,">>127442508 Sonho o dia em que todos os paneleiros do Bloco serão atirados de um helicóptero e o país se dissolva em microestados. Ein Europa der Tausand Liechtensteins meu negro.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495962998 127428224,127443202,2017-05-28 09:17:49,">>127443030 Abortion wouldn't be allowed in a free society. And why do you care for anyone other than your family? Essentialy, if you owned half the country, you write the rules on your private property, that's the idea of anarcho-capitalism. I believe the current society needs monarchism. Faggotry is not ok, being homosexual is. Imagine this situation - 100% of the world is sodomite but hides with it and raises the next generation, the next generation will be raised normal. About communism - murdurers deserve death, because they're taking away the right to not be killed. Communism don't deserve freedom because they want to take away freedom.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495963069 127428224,127443242,2017-05-28 09:18:23,">>127441401 and why the fuck would they in the first place? what does that even have to do with fascism or anti-fascism?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495963103 127428224,127443328,2017-05-28 09:19:37,">>127443030 Also, all those things are un-achievable. Drugs are currently illegal, every school has drugs. I am extremely conservative but I understand that I only care for me and my family and maybe friends, I don't give a fuck about some drug taking communist gay low-life.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495963177 127428224,127443382,2017-05-28 09:20:25,">>127441619 come and hang me big and tough fascist kek ok one question when will you ACTUALLY start hanging communists and not just posting images on the web?",,Anonymous,fad1f32a8828199a8a9be3da923358ed.jpg,+tHzKogoGZqKm+PakjNY7Q==,PL,,1495963225 127428224,127443436,2017-05-28 09:21:12,">>127442616 Fractional reserve banking and fiat money is not sustainable so that's what I think will be the turning point but will that happen in our lifetime? Automation and AI might slow the collapse with an increase in productivity.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495963272 127428224,127443503,2017-05-28 09:22:02,,,Anonymous,1490471488181.jpg,dYfXV7YbiEY3Dh6bPJbQtw==,PL,,1495963322 127428224,127443521,2017-05-28 09:22:21,,,Anonymous,1490974524637.png,676S1nirnOI5InkeibSxFw==,PL,,1495963341 127428224,127443532,2017-05-28 09:22:31,"Does anyone here agree with the non-aggression principle but also agree with authority and nobility? We need to voluntarily establish covenants and elect rulers. The contract is the key to peaceful and functional society.",,Anonymous,Dove and Crown.jpg,tMhCFSCSuht4X34DIw7U9Q==,AU,,1495963351 127428224,127443546,2017-05-28 09:22:40,">>127443202 >And why do you care for anyone other than your family? Yea, I feel like my fellow countrymen are fucking retards, I only feel close to my family and people who share my ideas and points of view. > being homosexual is How is being homosexual okay? I'm not even talking about their degeneracy, just about the fact they love men, not women, they can have child but...I don't know, that's just unnatural and weird.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495963360 127428224,127443570,2017-05-28 09:22:53,,,Anonymous,1490989450821.jpg,0Seg5kUleNcR1SceokDntw==,PL,,1495963373 127428224,127443607,2017-05-28 09:23:15,,,Anonymous,1490988043636.jpg,d4cpKqbhmKR1QSzoArCcXA==,PL,,1495963395 127428224,127443636,2017-05-28 09:23:38,">>127442705 Now you have a second neighbor who wants them gassed. Your prices are 5% higher at this point.",,Anonymous,Ancap FTW.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1495963418 127428224,127443639,2017-05-28 09:23:40,,,Anonymous,1490974684201.png,4LQIaeBud+hRIwTzJjMTWw==,PL,,1495963420 127428224,127443662,2017-05-28 09:24:03,,,Anonymous,1490982023261.jpg,GUoriu2FB4fchSQ+1u+7Zg==,PL,,1495963443 127428224,127443679,2017-05-28 09:24:23,,,Anonymous,1491169187671.png,+kj+NhfYeJ/6knaljEXqhg==,PL,,1495963463 127428224,127443699,2017-05-28 09:24:49,,,Anonymous,1490980075233.jpg,xW/TNQxth2IdqU0glykHRA==,PL,,1495963489 127428224,127443724,2017-05-28 09:25:15,,,Anonymous,1491750686281.jpg,cqMP/ahCrmZJG7XNSY8hQA==,PL,,1495963515 127428224,127443748,2017-05-28 09:25:37,,,Anonymous,1492205103336.png,6MIDd2CtxOByZwMu3tXXdw==,PL,,1495963537 127428224,127443749,2017-05-28 09:25:39,">>127443382 I'm just kek-ing mostly. I don't believe in revolutions because that's mostly a democratic/communist idea and thousands of innocent people die. We need a counter-revolution, a change in goverment and a proper trial and a death sentence passed on most of our politicians. If this won't happen, then I will start hanging communists when it will start becoming morally acceptable. A na drzewach, zamiast liści, będą wisieć komuniści. >>127443546 Because then we would have to start killing all of them, which is stupid and innefective. Some of them probably are born that way, but most of them are homosexual because the west tells them it's hip and cool. There are homosexuals and then there are gays. Homosexuals are normal citiziens that work and share good ideas. Gays are fucking sodomites and they are looking for priviliges in society and deserve the rope.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495963539 127428224,127443792,2017-05-28 09:26:03,,,Anonymous,1491752131111.png,70u6WerO1om3GGmSfSxdYQ==,PL,,1495963563 127428224,127443794,2017-05-28 09:26:08,">>127443532 Yeah, it's called ""the natural order"". People with high intelligence and strong personality will rise to the top so a natural hierarchy will form.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495963568 127428224,127443831,2017-05-28 09:26:43,">>127443636 You can gas the socialists for all I care, I'll even help with that, but capitalist authoritarians ( catholics for example ) can stay at my property.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495963603 127428224,127443833,2017-05-28 09:26:44,,,Anonymous,1494089571335.jpg,xs3s6siDBbq1iJAsZmxFpQ==,PL,,1495963604 127428224,127443874,2017-05-28 09:27:16,,,Anonymous,1494193755718.jpg,h64ob2MQagvB2Gn73v3pZQ==,PL,,1495963636 127428224,127443903,2017-05-28 09:27:41,,,Anonymous,1491033811601.jpg,NTWv3L0SM+6y4WOJe6Fafg==,PL,,1495963661 127428224,127443913,2017-05-28 09:27:50,">>127443639 AHAHAHAHA ""The gas van was invented and used by the Soviet secret police NKVD in the late 1930s during the Great Purge."" Literally the only original commie invention.",,Anonymous,Commie Contribution.jpg,WQ+ud1hO0cGMCYPO5dEq7w==,US,,1495963670 127428224,127443915,2017-05-28 09:27:52,,,Anonymous,1494598271257asdfasd.png,XGmn2oSa4k7xl+Rd5Thiiw==,LV,,1495963672 127428224,127443922,2017-05-28 09:28:00,,,Anonymous,1491036481959.jpg,aLj5QHAgdHHCxmBC6VSGZA==,PL,,1495963680 127428224,127443947,2017-05-28 09:28:20,">>127443874 You are a fucking retard GTFO. How will communism ever help end poverty? This is not capitalism at fault this is goverment programs at work.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495963700 127428224,127443955,2017-05-28 09:28:24,">>127443749 Oh, I see Yea, that's...not wrong, actually. Still, all the homosexuals I know are fucking fags, literally. It's like they want the whole world to be aware of their faggotry. No wonder lots of people hate homosexuals, with this kind of human trash...",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495963704 127428224,127443961,2017-05-28 09:28:27,,,Anonymous,XQZFZVOeaz8.jpg,aKs1ZpatoA2tVnMc8/ki6g==,PL,,1495963707 127428224,127443998,2017-05-28 09:29:00,">polish autism in action he didn't lived during the eastern bloc era right ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495963740 127428224,127444011,2017-05-28 09:29:08,,,Anonymous,1495228311562.jpg,cmTZvL9i6z/vmS//Qp7sqg==,PL,,1495963748 127428224,127444036,2017-05-28 09:29:32,"Morning folks. >>127443922 She doesn't believe in property or self ownership, she might as well be my property.",,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,US,,1495963772 127428224,127444044,2017-05-28 09:29:37,,,Anonymous,1494677362860.jpg,t+LLpRPeRTsruR+TUfVh2g==,PL,,1495963777 127428224,127444061,2017-05-28 09:29:48,">>127443903 Vulgar af. Well, she's a commie, after all...",,Anonymous,a qt Ilay.jpg,+6dpTjq+POAZMJyZH53KUw==,FR,,1495963788 127428224,127444091,2017-05-28 09:30:07,,,Anonymous,1494278906209.jpg,xn2ubMm78m/zICst7D8Esg==,PL,,1495963807 127428224,127444116,2017-05-28 09:30:25,">>127443532 >Elect Nah. Like other anon said, they'll form through voluntary association. But unlike elected positions, you have to work hard to maintain your position, and you can easily be supplanted by someone more qualified for whatever service you're providing.",,Anonymous,1495314721109.jpg,ZYPi0YHICaUedVQB8qRzjw==,US,,1495963825 127428224,127444129,2017-05-28 09:30:37,">>127443955 Yeah those deserve the rope. Some people around us are probably homosexual but they don't parade around it because they are normal. >>127443998 He's either a senior guy who was a goverment tool and rich under commies, a university student that was taken over by the U.S. kikes, or a troll. Anti-fa gets their shit kicked in in the real world in Poland.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495963837 127428224,127444135,2017-05-28 09:30:41,,,Anonymous,13925867_1123064681097138_5471881825321271860_o.jpg,b1IfwBnUuypVUBLvzOepPw==,PL,,1495963841 127428224,127444198,2017-05-28 09:31:24,,,Anonymous,1888597_1668188773395506_8222531721080007204_n.png,jfOVtKzK3oBv4CSCSpR/6w==,PL,,1495963884 127428224,127444237,2017-05-28 09:31:57,">>127444129 Chechens want to kill faggots or both faggots and homos?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495963917 127428224,127444244,2017-05-28 09:32:03,">>127443242 it's the biggest far-right rally with Jean Marie le Pen presence and no antifaggots come protesting here surely they will bash the fash this time !!",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495963923 127428224,127444283,2017-05-28 09:32:39,">>127444237 I don't know much besides that they are muslim, and we hate muslims.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495963959 127428224,127444297,2017-05-28 09:32:52,">>127443903 I'd physically remove the communism out of >her if you catch my drift.",,Anonymous,1495882791455m.jpg,IxayFqENPDGJci2auhZgxw==,PT,,1495963972 127428224,127444311,2017-05-28 09:32:58,">>127444091 >includes disease outbreaks as results of capitalism nice try wojciech",,Anonymous,,,AL,,1495963978 127428224,127444331,2017-05-28 09:33:17,"We, as in, we Poles.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495963997 127428224,127444337,2017-05-28 09:33:21,">>127428281 Their land. UK brought random mussies and promissed that land. They have no fucking claim on it.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1495964001 127428224,127444342,2017-05-28 09:33:27,">>127444091 >Includes US Civil War as people ""killed by capitalism"" Always knew that was a retarded figure. ""Killed by communism"" should include all famines under any state apparatus with an element of collectivism. Thus Jamestown settlers were killed by communism.",,Anonymous,Nigel Laugh.jpg,1dBOqkRXRfYmWybK8eFZNA==,US,,1495964007 127428224,127444432,2017-05-28 09:34:36,,,Anonymous,1494598271257asdf.png,+w4xtGkeSX8+p7WQnnz3Vw==,LV,,1495964076 127428224,127444434,2017-05-28 09:34:39,">>127444342 In the holocaust MAX 6 million kikes died. Under the Hołodomor MINIMALLY 6 million Ukrainians died.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495964079 127428224,127444441,2017-05-28 09:34:41,">>127443749 oh so you won't do a shit unless the others will do it first? fucking libertarians are even more pathetic and weak-willed that I thought>>127444129 still butthurt about the glorious Red Army liberating Poland?",,Anonymous,"The Soviet flag over the Reichstag, 1945 (1).jpg",fADw/+v8xi0JFrJaa//qRQ==,PL,,1495964081 127428224,127444473,2017-05-28 09:35:09,">>127444283 muslims are homos in denial, anyway.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495964109 127428224,127444488,2017-05-28 09:35:23,">>127444297 Yeah, I'd seize her means of reproduction if you know what I mean.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495964123 127428224,127444514,2017-05-28 09:35:47,,,Anonymous,1494598271257.png,V5JPUbTVAh/XF2DZ09xD1Q==,LV,,1495964147 127428224,127444538,2017-05-28 09:36:08,">>127444129 >Anti-fa gets their shit kicked in in the real world in Poland. like everywhere in Europe except in Germany but that's because they don't have real far right figure I think only in the US they are taken seriously",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495964168 127428224,127444551,2017-05-28 09:36:24,">>127428224 who will build the roads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495964184 127428224,127444556,2017-05-28 09:36:26,">>127444441 That's a strawman. I myself cannot achieve anything. We need to convince millions of people that hanging communists is acceptable.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495964186 127428224,127444600,2017-05-28 09:37:02,">>127444488 Fucking checked. CCCP girl confirmed for ancap property.",,Anonymous,1495371802730.jpg,d9GFGY1Y+gt+6L78F2Xijg==,PT,,1495964222 127428224,127444631,2017-05-28 09:37:22,">>127444244 oh ok then anyway, why did Jean Marie Le Pen resign? did she realize that real politics are more complex than spaming pepe on twitter and saying edgy things on rallies?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495964242 127428224,127444700,2017-05-28 09:38:15,">>127444434 Real number is more like 1 million tops and most died of hunger/disease because the Allies bombed supply lines.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495964295 127428224,127444824,2017-05-28 09:39:52,">>127443794 >>127444116 How should we establish rulers? Voluntarily, yes, but what kind of contract? In an ideal world there would be hundreds of sovereign states existing voluntarily, but we're in a world where there aren't any.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495964392 127428224,127444844,2017-05-28 09:40:02,">>127444434 Agreed. The most shameful part of US history is when would-be-dictator FDR allied with Stalin. Allying with Hitler would've been more morally defensible. >>127444441 Literally the only communist in Poland. That's why he's doing the work of 20 people.",,Anonymous,1494015299717.jpg,nZkaoz0xRVtht56V6Sgk+Q==,US,,1495964402 127428224,127444964,2017-05-28 09:41:13,">>127444297 >>127444036 >>127444488 >>127444600 >her hahaha alt-right confirmed for gays",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495964473 127428224,127445042,2017-05-28 09:42:05,">>127444964 Yeah that's a man. I've seen one picture with a bulge.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495964525 127428224,127445056,2017-05-28 09:42:11,">>127444556 ok, remind me when you're getting out of your basement and actually convince anyone",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495964531 127428224,127445060,2017-05-28 09:42:15,"I always wonder with people who like communism. Why don't you just get everyone who likes communism and just do it. Distribute all your wealth between each other, you don't need anyone's permission. It's not like it's against the law. But no one ever does because you would have to force people to do it. And that's basically the crux of communism - you have to force people to do things they don't want to do",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495964535 127428224,127445097,2017-05-28 09:42:37,">>127428224 Royal libertarians still not understanding property rights",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1495964557 127428224,127445121,2017-05-28 09:42:56,">>127444824 What do you mean by rulers? What duties / services would you like them to perform?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495964576 127428224,127445134,2017-05-28 09:43:05,,,Anonymous,12440721_1672617982952585_1013882693149095389_o.png,Bzz2MS6COdcRgEjv8tL/dQ==,PL,,1495964585 127428224,127445141,2017-05-28 09:43:11,">>127439266 I already lost Facebook friends choosing the libertarian route. So I chose this because I believe in it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495964591 127428224,127445167,2017-05-28 09:43:28,,,Anonymous,12821483_1667785783435805_8864077964219470852_n.png,Yc2ZSmwtida6x4tO3noiRg==,PL,,1495964608 127428224,127445176,2017-05-28 09:43:34,Geo-anarcho-capitalist reporting for duty,,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1495964614 127428224,127445191,2017-05-28 09:43:50,,,Anonymous,12961418_1676056309275419_7223462213834835309_o.png,vsdgmiWLlLqC3aswrVcO+w==,PL,,1495964630 127428224,127445195,2017-05-28 09:43:54,">>127445060 They want to be given free stuff merely for existing.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495964634 127428224,127445204,2017-05-28 09:44:00,">>127444631 because he is old as fuck >>127444441 >still butthurt about the glorious Red Army liberating Poland? I thought that saying shit like that is under death penalty in Poland",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495964640 127428224,127445224,2017-05-28 09:44:18,Henry George was right,,Anonymous,game-design-3-638.jpg,aFcFBJvxgU7NP2S7iy2Ijw==,US,,1495964658 127428224,127445269,2017-05-28 09:44:45,>property rights,,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1495964685 127428224,127445288,2017-05-28 09:45:00,">>127445056 Every day. Every day I'm redpilling people more and more.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495964700 127428224,127445329,2017-05-28 09:45:16,>dats gombunism xD,,Anonymous,commonvsstateprop.jpg,2HUhFgaPW/aBdZC7xmFcDg==,US,,1495964716 127428224,127445330,2017-05-28 09:45:17,">>127445141 They were not your friends to begin with. Also you gained some real ones. Win/win if you ask me.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495964717 127428224,127445369,2017-05-28 09:45:52,tax land not man,,Anonymous,adamsmithisageoist.jpg,JUWppajMdiB5mV3ofkxBVg==,US,,1495964752 127428224,127445374,2017-05-28 09:45:58,">>127439266 >>127445141 Hahahahah how come you are so fucking pathetic? You only prove you're just all bunch of pussies who won't do shit in real life. You just spam pepe on the internet that's all your political activity. You won't even admit your real ideology to your friends because you are scared of losing them. Alt-right more like beta-right.",,Anonymous,1485284528632.png,uGl+RDtrx+52m7B/Qp3Fjg==,PL,,1495964758 127428224,127445377,2017-05-28 09:45:59,">>127445097 Panel A >No ability to refuse >Refusal will result in jail + ass rape Panel B >Refusal will require you to cease operations and leave property 0/10. Don't even/ever try again.",,Anonymous,1495319862735.jpg,hSKQzaY2JlvsfsC0kxEz9w==,US,,1495964759 127428224,127445427,2017-05-28 09:46:35,wtf i love rentier capitalism now,,Anonymous,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,US,,1495964795 127428224,127445434,2017-05-28 09:46:39,">>127445288 ahhahahah where? here?",,Anonymous,1490975583692.jpg,XzLAj3Qslr1YIbcM8Agu/g==,PL,,1495964799 127428224,127445461,2017-05-28 09:46:57,">>127445204 We have more freedom of speech and freedom of press than most of the western world, but if you violate our patriotic symbolism you'll get a HUGE fine. Some feminist got one because she made a tits sign from our ""Poland fighting"" anchor symbol.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495964817 127428224,127445522,2017-05-28 09:47:34,">>127445369 if laissez-faire is such a great economic system why no one uses it anymore for a century?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495964854 127428224,127445524,2017-05-28 09:47:38,">>127445374 >You just spam pepe on the internet that's all your political activity. >said the pole posting anime girls I really think you can't into self awarness",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495964858 127428224,127445553,2017-05-28 09:48:01,">>127445176 >>127445224 >>127445269 >>127445329 >>127445369 Right of conquest bitch, now GTFO! Geofags are not welcome in /lrg/",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495964881 127428224,127445586,2017-05-28 09:48:20,">>127445461 >We have more freedom of speech and freedom of press than most of the western world not at all",,Anonymous,10929146_604452622987605_8704653132753318859_n.jpg,ObQUvStWuOBltSOp7evNMA==,PL,,1495964900 127428224,127445638,2017-05-28 09:48:45,,,Anonymous,1491752407873.jpg,id7t8YZUSzhHFuDfxZvfZw==,PL,,1495964925 127428224,127445666,2017-05-28 09:49:05,,,Anonymous,1491774684889.jpg,TueU/SmCTw/bpLLzjul5Mw==,PL,,1495964945 127428224,127445699,2017-05-28 09:49:23,">>127445377 >Refusal will require you to cease operations and leave property yes let me just keep on going until i find some unowned land oh wait You cant suppose that men have a right in themselves but no right to exist on the land do you even lockes proviso? Nor was this appropriation of any parcel of land, by improving it, any prejudice to any other man, since there was still enough and as good left, and more than the yet unprovided could use. So that, in effect, there was never the less left for others because of his enclosure for himself. For he that leaves as much as another can make use of, does as good as take nothing at all. Nobody could think himself injured by the drinking of another man, though he took a good draught, who had a whole river of the same water left him to quench his thirst. And the case of land and water, where there is enough of both, is perfectly the same.",,Anonymous,k41V9sG.jpg,ZyhaoL9vTAUfTbHmXq59+A==,US,,1495964963 127428224,127445701,2017-05-28 09:49:26,,,Anonymous,1491775315850.png,aSaAQU2Ixbkm2GVg+7VnfQ==,PL,,1495964966 127428224,127445713,2017-05-28 09:49:34,">>127445434 Unlike you I have a life and don't sit on this website and on the internet saving images of some jew pictures.>>127445586 That's not an argument, post an argument.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495964974 127428224,127445716,2017-05-28 09:49:36,">>127445522 >if commmunism is so great then why the eastern bloc failed,China became corporatist and venezuela is the biggest shithole in history Xddddddd",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495964976 127428224,127445742,2017-05-28 09:49:50,">>127445638 Left can't into meme",,Anonymous,1495297973308.jpg,kW1QByihe53EdxQNnVVMSg==,LV,,1495964990 127428224,127445750,2017-05-28 09:49:54,,,Anonymous,1491931115000.jpg,FoGiqYmR04dMzI5LGlib0g==,PL,,1495964994 127428224,127445774,2017-05-28 09:50:12,,,Anonymous,1491931226345.jpg,HjkdwMECzbf3WMTLDMjCJQ==,PL,,1495965012 127428224,127445793,2017-05-28 09:50:29,,,Anonymous,1491931558182.jpg,rzp+48/wcwOAMmxnFb29cA==,PL,,1495965029 127428224,127445800,2017-05-28 09:50:36,">>127445716 China became economically liberal not corporatist. We have corporatism here in Europe and north America.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495965036 127428224,127445809,2017-05-28 09:50:43,">>127445713 >leftist >argument m8....",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495965043 127428224,127445832,2017-05-28 09:50:56,,,Anonymous,1491931673827.jpg,cAPHLuA35v6eT85c3T8vaw==,PL,,1495965056 127428224,127445869,2017-05-28 09:51:25,,,Anonymous,1492896342712.jpg,/8eiCqABNTWDjnxt5LzXNQ==,PL,,1495965085 127428224,127445893,2017-05-28 09:51:38,">>127445800 mistyped sorry",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495965098 127428224,127445926,2017-05-28 09:52:03,">>127444824 Everybody rules over his own life. The sheep will abide by the more intelligent people, they are submissive by nature, as well as females are. The hierarchy will not be imposed, but it will come naturally.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495965123 127428224,127445928,2017-05-28 09:52:03,"Please report Soviet spam man. Too much, must digitally remove.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495965123 127428224,127445937,2017-05-28 09:52:08,">>127445809 Yeah. The guy who claims I'm a faggot and don't do anything with my life is currently posting tens of anime pictures.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495965128 127428224,127446015,2017-05-28 09:53:06,">>127445809 if left wing is so stupid why conservative base always consists of poor rural uneducated losers?",,Anonymous,1494277408186.jpg,2+EgYBsUUO8fd3vV0E1Mcw==,PL,,1495965186 127428224,127446037,2017-05-28 09:53:24,">>127444964 That's why I said >her you illiterate pole.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495965204 127428224,127446055,2017-05-28 09:53:36,,,Anonymous,1494275603026.png,Ug3tmZKnoFn5NYQLnv8i3Q==,PL,,1495965216 127428224,127446083,2017-05-28 09:53:56,,,Anonymous,1492895648151.jpg,MLbFlbHKz/q+0fz2cXPhCw==,PL,,1495965236 127428224,127446092,2017-05-28 09:54:05,">>127445330 >>127445141 >picking friends solely based on your political alignment One of my best friends is a nazbol, the misery has brought us together. Sorry for going anecdotal...",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495965245 127428224,127446105,2017-05-28 09:54:19,">>127446015 I thought you were for the working class :^)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495965259 127428224,127446108,2017-05-28 09:54:21,">>127443639 >Spanish Republican Flag HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ¡VIVA EL REY!",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495965261 127428224,127446134,2017-05-28 09:54:39,">>127445928 >m-mods please save us, communists are bullying us again! top kek so you aren't hanging us anymore?",,Anonymous,1492897953748.jpg,+puQsNfUCEpm8mI8Sy1ktA==,PL,,1495965279 127428224,127446175,2017-05-28 09:55:08,,,Anonymous,1493405682847.png,5ryKvIR6M4+g9r5w4jMhUw==,PL,,1495965308 127428224,127446195,2017-05-28 09:55:23,">>127446134 How can I hang you over the internet retard? I thought you were just mentally ill, not incapable of thought.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495965323 127428224,127446202,2017-05-28 09:55:27,,,Anonymous,1490978472774.png,e0kN7CDR0EtpwWyWWdThPg==,PL,,1495965327 127428224,127446221,2017-05-28 09:55:46,,,Anonymous,1490979630197.jpg,+Qnv/WwASgOFHdmnpx/2IA==,PL,,1495965346 127428224,127446250,2017-05-28 09:56:07,">mfw massacred a fascist thread feels good man",,Anonymous,1492904341899.png,g3gekAqQt+yJduFsASVgBQ==,PL,,1495965367 127428224,127446256,2017-05-28 09:56:10,">>127446134 Bartek you squatting subhuman, at least don't soil our thread with that spam.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495965370 127428224,127446279,2017-05-28 09:56:25,,,Anonymous,1493408019832.jpg,A9eL8hXLoGEWY9JZyPBGNg==,PL,,1495965385 127428224,127446316,2017-05-28 09:56:46,,,Anonymous,1493760169805.jpg,7I68F8y4IDpg6JugDRSLTg==,PL,,1495965406 127428224,127446335,2017-05-28 09:57:04,,,Anonymous,1493832228973.jpg,MZ3bEmqqmvdALSGatqcHKQ==,PL,,1495965424 127428224,127446372,2017-05-28 09:57:32,">>127446250 >libertarians >fascists be happy because your mods on /leftypol/ ban anybody criticizing leftism you insecure fags",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495965452 127428224,127446400,2017-05-28 09:57:51,>socialism doesn't wo-,,Anonymous,29265829211_bf2acc8b87_o.jpg,UXj3GdZdoaeNPDfKy+qC/Q==,PL,,1495965471 127428224,127446449,2017-05-28 09:58:25,>communism doesn't wo-,,Anonymous,34498798630_4d450965dd_k.jpg,BuOgRWvZsJN+P09uOkvSVQ==,PL,,1495965505 127428224,127446472,2017-05-28 09:58:36,">>127446092 wtf is nazbol?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495965516 127428224,127446478,2017-05-28 09:58:44,">>127446372 why would we allow literal retards there?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495965524 127428224,127446559,2017-05-28 09:59:43,">>127446478 Start by physically removing yourself then.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495965583 127428224,127446572,2017-05-28 09:59:51,">>127446400 >nordic countries >highest rate of economic freedom very socialist sure >sweden >rape capital of europe I prefer not having welfare if a nigger won't rape my sisters",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495965591 127428224,127446587,2017-05-28 10:00:01,">>127446400 >>127446449 :)",,Anonymous,file.png,hplfjw8nGOoPoga1BaNrBw==,ES,,1495965601 127428224,127446593,2017-05-28 10:00:04,">>127428224 I don't like circlejerking so I never post in these generals, but just so you know: I agree with everything /LRG/ stands for.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1495965604 127428224,127446594,2017-05-28 10:00:05,">>127428340 I recommend adding The Most Dangerous Superstition by Larken Rose to these required reading lists. Any lingering unrecognized statist tendencies you have will be absolutely demolished",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495965605 127428224,127446615,2017-05-28 10:00:20,">>127446559 make me alt-right crybaby",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495965620 127428224,127446620,2017-05-28 10:00:26,">>127446202 He condemned the world... LOL",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495965626 127428224,127446646,2017-05-28 10:00:48,">>127446572 >>nordic countries >>highest rate of economic freedom",,Anonymous,1478843822623.png,WXA3obmD8FB2pHE/ZwgWKQ==,PL,,1495965648 127428224,127446676,2017-05-28 10:01:07,">>127446400 >>127446449 mmhhhmm!! My statist cock would be hard from how much communism work (if not because the state owns me and cock that's it!)",,Anonymous,file.png,P19rtVNiSK2MF1gIAgUd2Q==,ES,,1495965667 127428224,127446691,2017-05-28 10:01:14,">>127446449 >China >communist after the 80's communist thinking that history is class struggle but can't into history is pure pottery",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495965674 127428224,127446741,2017-05-28 10:01:51,">>127446400 >>127446449 Who's cock here is leaking from how hard communism works!?!?",,Anonymous,file.png,NGw1wjqQyQ66Xx9chFajBg==,ES,,1495965711 127428224,127446822,2017-05-28 10:02:45,>>127446741,,Anonymous,1492901858105.jpg,8eiJfJLWo5M1SYrMiRtV2A==,PL,,1495965765 127428224,127446843,2017-05-28 10:03:00,">>127446400 Kek just yesterday I was reading a book on this. Sweden became rich because it had one of the freest markets in Europe in the early 20th century, managed to avoid the world wars and had a high IQ low time preference. Then the government began socializing the economy from the 50s, and they got so fucked that in the 90s they had to start privatizing again. And then the government got filled with SJWs and communists and it's the nightmare you got today. They teach kids not to conform to traditional gender roles in schools and parents are persecuted for wanting to homeschool their kids. Nice try commie.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495965780 127428224,127446845,2017-05-28 10:03:01,">>127446472 National bolshevism, similar to Ceauşescu's regime. He is not from Romania so he can't know.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495965781 127428224,127446846,2017-05-28 10:03:00,,,Anonymous,1486526837454.png,ymqYiGepO3C3AVq8iJX/Sg==,US,,1495965780 127428224,127446863,2017-05-28 10:03:13,">>127446646 >he doesn't know I think the only non-educated here is you >>127446478 how do you achieve communism without working class retard,didn't read marx ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495965793 127428224,127446907,2017-05-28 10:03:42,">>127446400 >>127446449 Who else here is so happy our god and saviour, Karl Marx was such a hard worker?",,Anonymous,file.png,EPGCPLNzemKJP9ygEdStKA==,ES,,1495965822 127428224,127446943,2017-05-28 10:04:09,">>127446202 >Made world a better place So making eastern europe a shithole is good thing right?",,Anonymous,904.png,Rk1N87/vgQr9Kb1+/eFS7w==,LV,,1495965849 127428224,127446951,2017-05-28 10:04:15,">>127446676 In 1923, on seeing the Soviet State's growing coercive power, a dying Lenin said Russia had reverted to ""a bourgeois tsarist machine... barely varnished with socialism.""",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1495965855 127428224,127446975,2017-05-28 10:04:36,"Proud communist here, our boyz killin' de proletz natzees mang!!!",,Anonymous,file.png,ZQ+g1yROPTW8VgLYkcVZYw==,ES,,1495965876 127428224,127447046,2017-05-28 10:05:21,">>127446822 >oh my god I am staving since two weeks finally this shitty wall is broken >WAAAH WAHHHH THERE ARE PROSTITUTES I CANNOT CONTROL MY DICK WAAA WAAAA",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495965921 127428224,127447065,2017-05-28 10:05:34,">>127446691 this Chink idiots killed milions of their own people for cumonism just to turn capitalist 40 years after winning civil war.",,Anonymous,1495977877432.jpg,3o7mZR4NoYdQ9wD4HgC8OA==,LV,,1495965934 127428224,127447073,2017-05-28 10:05:40,">>127445121 I would like to live under a ruler who protects me and my group from invasion, prostitution, abortion, drugs, violence and crime.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495965940 127428224,127447087,2017-05-28 10:05:47,">>127446951 >IT WASN'T REAL SOCIALISM! Here we fucking go! Let's do a list of true communism/socialism 1. Magical chrismas land 2. A country still not fucked by long term communist idiocy 3. Uhhh???",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495965947 127428224,127447135,2017-05-28 10:06:21,">>127446845 Your friend is unironically a Ceauşescu sympathizer? Is he 80 years old or just retarded?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495965981 127428224,127447178,2017-05-28 10:06:52,">>127447073 Then sell yourself as a slave buddy",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495966012 127428224,127447277,2017-05-28 10:08:05,">>127447073 Why won't you go become someone's slave then? I want to be able to protect myself from that.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495966085 127428224,127447337,2017-05-28 10:08:58,">>127428224 https://vid.me/S5hj",,Anonymous,1492992555258.png,XWSHv3L278QR12D4ryLsNw==,HU,,1495966138 127428224,127447343,2017-05-28 10:09:03,">>127447135 He is not a Ceauşescu sympathizer directly, he's just a Perun pagan larper who also imagines himself as part of a perfect traiditional society.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495966143 127428224,127447448,2017-05-28 10:10:17,">>127444824 Dude, what part of ""natural hierarchy"" do you not get? There are natural born leaders and natural born followers. No election needed.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495966217 127428224,127447530,2017-05-28 10:11:21,">>127447337 >Jean Raspail,camp of the saint one of the best fiction book I've rode,recommending it to everyone thinking open borders are a good idea",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495966281 127428224,127447771,2017-05-28 10:14:19,">>127447343 So he's basically just a ""non-degenerate"" hippie? What does that have to do with Bolshevism?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495966459 127428224,127447852,2017-05-28 10:15:18,">>127447337 >seniility",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1495966518 127428224,127447919,2017-05-28 10:15:59,">>127447771 He is more of a nationalist, but economically he is very socialist.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495966559 127428224,127448069,2017-05-28 10:17:44,">>127447919 So how does that differ from NatSoc?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495966664 127428224,127448101,2017-05-28 10:18:06,">>127444297 Hey the airborne ovens pic got done, nice",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495966686 127428224,127448186,2017-05-28 10:19:13,">>127448069 He doesn't identify as natsoc because of the nazis, he is not that much of an extremist.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495966753 127428224,127448245,2017-05-28 10:19:53,,,Anonymous,1486525841340.jpg,9Ed+JK+UC2+5M4bxB1mfxw==,US,,1495966793 127428224,127448804,2017-05-28 10:26:51,">>127448186 So he's basically a 17 yo commie. Hope he grows up.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1495967211 127428224,127448937,2017-05-28 10:28:22,>>127428224,,Anonymous,natson ancap alliance 2.png,g/yNYfh1jm4aI7ckxUtMsQ==,CA,,1495967302 127428224,127449179,2017-05-28 10:31:37,">>127444044 >can itteraly walk to a shelter half an hour away to get food every day >dont and so people need to feel sorry for you >poverty line is below minimum wage work for 40 hours a day Basically 1/6 people are too lazy to work an hour a day and 1/5 are too lazy to get a job. Well alot of people work under the table and inflate that number.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495967497 127428224,127449257,2017-05-28 10:32:34,">>127447178 But the things I listed aren't at all slave-like. This society would be freer than the current society - no economic intervention, no surveillance, no gun control, no censorship, etc. In fact there is no slavery in this situation if I am voluntarily living in it. >>127447277 How is it slavery to enter a contract with a king, but not slavery to enter a contract with a private protection firm, private judiciary and private insurer? And what do you want protection from? My own relationship with a ruler that doesn't affect you? >>127447448 How is a non-aggressive king unnatural? He is a natural born leader. I'm not talking about democratic election. Individuals elect firms. I want to elect a king.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1495967554 127428224,127449280,2017-05-28 10:32:51,">>127443570 So, Antifa stay home?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1495967571 127428224,127449453,2017-05-28 10:35:14,Deep down we all know that immigration is a good thing.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495967714 127428224,127449589,2017-05-28 10:36:45,">>127449453 t.Destiny >YO DAWG",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495967805 127428224,127449591,2017-05-28 10:36:46,">>127449453 kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495967806 127428224,127449844,2017-05-28 10:39:51,"Need a massive red pill dump on Right vs Left Some libcuck posted me a source that showed all the top wealthiest states in America were Democratic leaning states",,Anonymous,1423029520017.png,MYJx2pgHBvehioEcNFanfQ==,GB,,1495967991 127428224,127449938,2017-05-28 10:41:00,">>127428224 someone want to explain to me why so many Free Staters are registered democrats, including those who have successfully run for office in NH? WTF is wrong with these fucking idiots?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495968060 127428224,127450169,2017-05-28 10:43:41,">>127449844 decocrats stats always look good because the money is in the hands of the feds and can be accounted for, Capitalist countries don't account for the money you have stashed under your bed and so the STATE is less wealthy, thats a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495968221 127428224,127450241,2017-05-28 10:44:38,">>127449938 SJW libertarians. basically fiscal moderate, socially commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495968278 127428224,127450285,2017-05-28 10:45:05,">>127449844 A wealthy state is literally the opposite of freedom. Show them a map of state taxes and small business regulation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495968305 127428224,127450584,2017-05-28 10:48:18,">>127450241 This would suggest the entire Free State project is ""fake"" and NH is under slow invasion of cryptos?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495968498 127428224,127451319,2017-05-28 10:56:26,">>127450584 When cool right-libertarians start a project like this a bunch of faggot lefties think to themselves ""I'M A LIBERTARIAN TOO! I SHOULD GO OVER THERE AND SPREAD MY FAGGOT LOVING FILTH""",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1495968986 127428224,127451587,2017-05-28 10:59:18,">>127449844 now show me their tax rate and how much money they keep (if they measured wealth per capita if it isn't the case this libcuck is a hack)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1495969158 127428224,127452399,2017-05-28 11:08:28,">>127449257 >Ruler Slaves are owned, you'd be no different as your own request >Invasion, prostitution, abortion, drugs,violence and crime Slaves are protected by their owner.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1495969708 127455796,127455796,2017-05-28 11:44:15,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - PINOCHET DID NOTHING WRONG,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1495971855 127455796,127456019,2017-05-28 11:46:18,First for private monarchs.,,Autistic Commentary,Anarcho-Monarchism.png,MLno5TafwZbzLm+J5pRSxw==,AU,,1495971978 127455796,127456191,2017-05-28 11:48:14,"I have a link to download Reactionary Liberty, I want to find a way to host is so you can read from your browser. https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/",,Anonymous,1490140819443.jpg,7g1XBZvSMdm5PbWTSlci0w==,US,,1495972094 127455796,127456596,2017-05-28 11:52:43,">REACTIONARY LIBERTY - ROBERT TAYLOR https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-VU5Yi3loGldEVwNmF0VGZ6NFVnbjNOUHRFVzlmUHBHN0pz/view there we go that should work nicely.",,Anonymous,Official Badge.png,jeBzGyuN3uysRJGm5WLomg==,US,,1495972363 127455796,127457518,2017-05-28 12:02:40,,,Anonymous,2.png,fkwsfbW1wL69xTqp8nCC7A==,US,,1495972960 127455796,127458055,2017-05-28 12:08:33,,,Anonymous,2.png,AEqsH5N/AdSxX8w4IzQ9aQ==,US,,1495973313 127455796,127459724,2017-05-28 12:25:05,Bump.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495974305 127455796,127460579,2017-05-28 12:33:30,"""degeneracy"" is a product and industry of the state. It is the state that has created a set of bullshit ""civil rights"" for every minority group, be it racial minorities, womens ""rights"", homosexual ""rights"" and now even tranny ""rights"". It is they who mandated affirmative action, It is them who mandate anti-discrimination. No reasonable buisness owner would take in an ineffective and needy degenerate social justice tranny workers . If you somehow believe that belive that the state is the a force that prevents degeneracy, and that the natural state of man when not subjugated under the states law is to CUT OFF ONES GENITALS and dress like a woman you are a fucking moron .",,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1495974810 127455796,127460768,2017-05-28 12:35:10,"Brutal minarchist governance is the best! Down with those who wish to control our fates, up with those who wish to control those who wish to control our fates!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495974910 127455796,127461576,2017-05-28 12:43:01,">>127460768 If I was in charge I'd probably run a minarchist military dictatorship. I'd do Police, Military and Borders. Property Rights as the law of my land",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495975381 127472936,127472936,2017-05-28 14:34:38,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - muh roads tho EDITION,Anonymous,libertypol.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,SK,,1495982078 127472936,127473032,2017-05-28 14:35:35,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,hoppe democrats quote.jpg,IKGvoP25fTeU/Ur0k6EZjw==,SK,,1495982135 127472936,127473096,2017-05-28 14:36:10,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1495982170 127472936,127473177,2017-05-28 14:36:55,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux",,Anonymous,compass all.jpg,fGLnxMuqb5rwiyi5yv8Vkg==,SK,,1495982215 127472936,127473243,2017-05-28 14:37:34,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,join or die better version.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,SK,,1495982254 127472936,127473315,2017-05-28 14:38:13,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,hoppe ancapwave.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,SK,,1495982293 127472936,127473380,2017-05-28 14:38:47,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,hoppe physical removalwave.jpg,FfZoTw/twNq8pqWl6cB2bQ==,SK,,1495982327 127472936,127475261,2017-05-28 14:56:51,Bls resbond,,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495983411 127472936,127475550,2017-05-28 14:59:39,">>127475261 I'm here slavbro, just watching some of the vids you posted. I've never heard of Chris Cantwell before he seems like a guy worth listening to",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495983579 127472936,127475643,2017-05-28 15:00:42,">>127472936 Based Slovak. Thanks for all the links. Rest of Sunday taken care of.",,Anonymous,Snek.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1495983642 127472936,127475707,2017-05-28 15:01:16,">>127472936 Lolbertjewianism is fucking gay",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1495983676 127472936,127475935,2017-05-28 15:03:37,">>127475261 I propose renaming this thread: >Based Slovakian holds Right Libertarian Masterclass",,Anonymous,Hoppian Snake.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,US,,1495983817 127472936,127476774,2017-05-28 15:11:36,Bump,,Anonymous,1495489946779.gif,SMdlYKg5KYZAZZ+Lzmhd5w==,US,,1495984296 127472936,127477194,2017-05-28 15:15:23,">>127472936 >We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) Thank you for being a competent person and not a fucking faggot. For once OP is not a faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495984523 127472936,127477319,2017-05-28 15:16:32,">>127475707 Fuck off kike shill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495984592 127472936,127477840,2017-05-28 15:21:15,">>127472936 >Timothy McVeigh Approved I haven't heard this one. Are we alright with using violence to achieve our goals? Or do just include him because of what motivated him?",,Anonymous,qt3.jpg,3ZaNw/csOoAYYds/FFTYJg==,US,,1495984875 127472936,127478387,2017-05-28 15:26:34,"Wassap Slovakia. Its founding father GW check this propaganda out. This is the response to; >Freedom is degenerate, The state must enforce morality. Enforcing traditional morality goes against the interest of the state. The state betters itself by taking away the average citizen's right to defend himself, his right to put the needs of his family above the needs of the state, and his right to associate or disassociate with whom he pleases. How does the state achieve this without retaliation from the people? ""Progressivism"", ""Cultural-Marxism"", ""Degeneracy"", and to finish the job; Radical Socialism and ultimately Communism. Degeneracy is supported and protected by the state. Corporations are pressured by the state as well as leftist interest groups to promote leftist social agendas such as ""transgender rights"", diversity quotas, and anti-discrimination. ALL of which are ploys designed to destroy our communities, our families and to take power away from citizens. All under the guise of ""progress"" ""freedom"" and ""equality"". Degeneracy is enslavement to a self-destructive leftist ideology. It has invented a culture that fetishizes drug abuse, homosexuality and most recently genital mutilation and hormone alteration directed primarily at young children. A population afflicted with this mental illness, this nihilistic anti-moral ideology is not natural, and cannot be considered the result of an untampered people, laissez-faire, or the libertarian philosophy. This ideology is precisely; a parasite imposed upon us by leftists with the help of the state to create an ever expanding totalitarian global empire. In short, If you honestly believe the natural state of a free man is to mutilate their genitals, abuse drugs or otherwise self-destruct you are dead wrong.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1495985194 127472936,127478508,2017-05-28 15:27:48,">>127477840 >Are we alright with using violence to achieve our goals?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495985268 127472936,127478796,2017-05-28 15:30:26,">>127478508 We should be, if we are the party of freedom and the rest are aggressors then we must defend ourselves by destroying them.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1495985426 127472936,127478967,2017-05-28 15:32:03,Not all libertarians follow NAP.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495985523 127472936,127480075,2017-05-28 15:42:20,">>127478796 Sums up the rationale for physical removal perfectly. >McVeigh I would agree a violent response to the Waco massacre was justified. I'll assume that he did not realize there was a daycare center in the building. Is it a practical means to achieve our objectives? As opposed to the Randian idea of ""going Galt?""",,Anonymous,Hoppe3.jpg,RTCZvklrCy9LiRE3zy3dEA==,US,,1495986140 127472936,127480236,2017-05-28 15:43:50,">>127478387 pls r8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495986230 127472936,127480647,2017-05-28 15:47:29,">>127478387 >>127480236 I 100% agree if state agents are just state agents. Insofar as they have alleigance to something they believe is of greater importance than the state (Religion or family), than they will act against this trend toward degeneracy. Also, insofar as they're lazy (policeman not wanting to deal with another tranny trying to commit suicide) they will not promote degeneracy. I agree 100% though that a state agent qua state agent would promote degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495986449 127472936,127480919,2017-05-28 15:49:41,">>127478967 Yes they do, otherwise they're not libertarian. >>127478796 This isn't really accurate. For some communists maybe, but libertarian communists/anarcho-communists don't hold that position. They define 'private property' differently and have no objection to personal property; rather, they hold that you can't own, for example, a forest or a mountain (or similarly any large chunk of land that's beyond the scope of personal use, etc) because that is infringing on the rights of others to use/dwell in that land. Anarcho-communists and anarcho-capitalists/libertarians are basically the same and hold the same values (freedom, liberty, liberation), they just misunderstand each other's positions. The ""left"" versus ""right"" is a false dichotomy created by the globalist kikes to keep you gullible idiots fighting and hating each other instead of standing together against the (((real enemy))). I don't give a fuck if you're a capitalist or a socialist. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. What does matter is valuing freedom and standing against the globalist statists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495986581 127472936,127481061,2017-05-28 15:51:02,">>127475550 Yeah, he's a great goy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495986662 127472936,127481127,2017-05-28 15:51:38,">>127475935 th-thank you",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495986698 127472936,127481230,2017-05-28 15:52:31,">>127477840 It's always okay to act violently against the government, as long as you're not a leftist.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495986751 127472936,127481283,2017-05-28 15:53:03,">>127481230 >as long as you're not a leftist. >believing in the left vs right meme Good goy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495986783 127472936,127481408,2017-05-28 15:54:09,">>127478387 >>127480236 8/8",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495986849 127472936,127481566,2017-05-28 15:55:34,">>127481283 A leftist is the one who after total polarisation will side with the communists rather than with free men.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495986934 127472936,127481738,2017-05-28 15:57:09,Unity among all who value liberty is the only path to victory against the (((globalists))).,,Anonymous,together4.png,xFFhWmqJpL2Wulo+jmGmjQ==,US,,1495987029 127472936,127481850,2017-05-28 15:58:05,Whats happens if a company wants to import cheap 3rd world labor?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987085 127472936,127481921,2017-05-28 15:58:46,">>127481566 (((They))) are too powerful for ""right-wing"" libertarians to defeat alone. We can work out the trivial differences like capitalism versus socialism later. First we need to unite with everyone who shares our love of freedom and hatred of the zionist globalist statists to defeat our enemy. Capitalism versus socialism is a triviality. A truly free society will have aspects of both.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987126 127472936,127481971,2017-05-28 15:59:22,">>127481283 >>127481738 >>127481921 gtfo anti property commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987162 127472936,127481989,2017-05-28 15:59:28,">>127481850 this violates the NAP by harming my ability to sell labor. the law should always favor the rights of the seller of goods and services",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987168 127472936,127482084,2017-05-28 16:00:12,"hi, is this going the serious rational-arguments route that is failing, or the meme-filled ironic-and-then-sincere that elected donald with meme magick ? is there any chance for the libertarian party, or for sneaking libertarianism into the republican party ? i head the LP's >1% score may help them financially. basically, the ideas are cool, what's the plan to get them into reality and take the boot off the snake ?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495987212 127472936,127482126,2017-05-28 16:00:34,">>127481971 When did I claim to be anti-property or communist, dumbass? I am neither. (((They))) seek to divide their enemies. You are playing right into (((their))) hand. Either that or you are a shill.",,Anonymous,together6.png,bdvQUxX4jzwZ1dxlF0ft0A==,US,,1495987234 127472936,127482336,2017-05-28 16:02:40,">>127482126 fuck on outta here. using ((())) and words like shill doesn't rule you out as a /leftypol/ shill.",,Anonymous,Tucker.png,G3ntbYA6wn77pdLZEi56hw==,US,,1495987360 127472936,127482732,2017-05-28 16:06:04,">>127482084 We need to get a libertarian (such as Rand Paul) to take a Donald Trump approach. Aggressive. Non-compromising. Controversial. We need to put everything we have into getting that person elected. It will probably be most easily accomplished through one of the two major parties because most people are afraid to ""throw away"" their vote on a third party. One potential method would be to get someone similar to Rand Paul to run Democrat, tear the Democrat party apart (like Trump almost did to the Republicans). This would work well because it would eliminate threat from other Democrat candidates once our guy wins the primaries, and since Trump is not very well-liked by more than half of people in the country, people will vote for the opposition (whether in 2020 running against Trump, or in 2024 running against another Republican) just because of the 'Democrat' label. So basically, the key is to infiltrate the Democrat party with one of our own, bring it down from within, and have the candidate give a unifying message that will appeal to Republicans and Democrats, while ultimately holding libertarian ideals. We could use Rand Paul, but his affiliation with the Republican party would make things more difficult (and things will be swayed back to Democrat soon; we don't want to wait another full cycle for things to sway back toward Republican), so it may be best to get someone from outside the two major parties, such as a member of the Libertarian Party (McAfee?) to join/infiltrate the DNC.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987564 127472936,127482801,2017-05-28 16:06:38,">>127473032 >The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. >So anyway, as I was saying, we'll have the government enforce vetting to get into the country. What the fuck is wrong with you people?",,Anonymous,9816784256719.png,TmijrVerZ51KB2AGQccMqw==,US,,1495987598 127472936,127482901,2017-05-28 16:07:32,">>127482336 You calling me a shill doesn't rule you out as a shill either, faggot. The globalists use divide and conquer tactics against their adversaries. That is exactly what you are doing: Using divide and conquer tactics against the adversaries of the globalists. Come to think of it, you're probably Shareblue. Fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987652 127472936,127483007,2017-05-28 16:08:22,">>127482801 Are you retarded? He didn't say that a government will enforce it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987702 127472936,127483202,2017-05-28 16:09:59,">>127483007 >buy some land on the border >let a shitload of 3rd world labourers in Wow... really solid """"""vetting process"""""" you've got there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987799 127472936,127483329,2017-05-28 16:11:04,">>127481989 Doesn't it violate the NAP if you restrict a companies right to hire who they want to hire?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987864 127472936,127483526,2017-05-28 16:12:54,"Naw but seriously you Hoppean faggots are not even libertarian. >>127482126 has the right idea. Nat-Soc is cancer twice over. >getting cucked by christfags and statists >liking it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495987974 127472936,127485132,2017-05-28 16:26:53,">>127482901 >>127483007 >>127483526 lol, gtfo of here. we are not nazis and we're not gonna pal around with left libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495988813 127472936,127485448,2017-05-28 16:29:28,">>127481738 YOU DO WHAT YOU LIKE TO DO No, seriously, you get the chopper.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495988968 127472936,127485565,2017-05-28 16:30:29,">>127481850 They can bloody well move to the niggers if they like them so much and don't mind the property values going down.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495989029 127472936,127485888,2017-05-28 16:33:21,">>127483526 Get out, leftypol. If God is what prevents degeneracy among the simple folk, I will support Him.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1495989201 127472936,127486540,2017-05-28 16:38:40,">>127473243 >>That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 Jesus fucking Christ, I payed no heed to Amazing Atheist for YEARS until I watched this. How does this faggot still have an audience?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495989520 127472936,127486618,2017-05-28 16:39:21,,,Anonymous,1482217107100.jpg,bETxKOL/OEqkelmYdUk4fQ==,US,,1495989561 127472936,127486700,2017-05-28 16:40:01,,,Anonymous,1491151193929.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,US,,1495989601 127472936,127486785,2017-05-28 16:40:47,>>127472936,,Anonymous,46E18167-D1A1-45F9-9339-FB73202BE9B6.jpg,pvN2tYZwpryd0yiz/wNu/w==,CA,,1495989647 127472936,127486789,2017-05-28 16:40:48,,,Anonymous,1491386423980.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1495989648 127472936,127487029,2017-05-28 16:42:50,I have started Man Economy and State. I love that there is a book to actually teaching me the whole of economics at the highest level.,,Anonymous,,,IT,,1495989770 127472936,127487138,2017-05-28 16:43:38,Bump again because that is what I want.,,Anonymous,0B8A4805-4150-469D-A033-EFA901827B4A.jpg,Oi6Tr8jpABL8E3HSEnwIGw==,CA,,1495989818 127472936,127487322,2017-05-28 16:45:16,"What would you guys say is the best way to remove every non-white in this country? I was thinking paying them to leave, would that work?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495989916 127472936,127487840,2017-05-28 16:49:44,">>127487322 Just cut the gibs we're already paying them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495990184 127472936,127488074,2017-05-28 16:51:32,">>127487322 Don't feed the squirrels, they just come back with their friends looking for more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495990292 127472936,127490015,2017-05-28 17:06:53,well /lrg/?,,Anonymous,2f3jx91h1wuy.jpg,ShuqOvL2Wzf10ZvBmH4Kfg==,GB,,1495991213 127472936,127490622,2017-05-28 17:11:31,">>127490015 As fast and as hard as possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495991491 127472936,127492336,2017-05-28 17:25:50,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495992350 127472936,127492487,2017-05-28 17:27:04,,,Anonymous,2.png,AEqsH5N/AdSxX8w4IzQ9aQ==,US,,1495992424 127472936,127492546,2017-05-28 17:27:38,">>127483202 Do you own property? Do you allow violent niggers on your property? Thought so you absolute retard. That's how private property rules work.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495992458 127472936,127492651,2017-05-28 17:28:30,">>127481283 >Good goy >supporting leftist The jews have adopted.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495992510 127472936,127492779,2017-05-28 17:29:43,">>127490015 Immedietly.",,Wolnościowiec,,,PL,,1495992583 127472936,127493869,2017-05-28 17:39:17,Sup fellas. Any libertarian right movements in the UK I can get into?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1495993157 127472936,127495411,2017-05-28 17:52:26,,,Anonymous,ron_paul_rifle.png,kVZ3g/KYLdtNYGtV29bL0g==,US,,1495993946 127472936,127495718,2017-05-28 17:55:08,">>127472936 N.A.P. is an unnecessary absolutist principle that results in misunderstanding or degeneracy of libertarian ism (see ""what if the child consents tho? memes) and constant purity tests. It is mostly used to alienate people who aren't full ancap mode and it drives small government people away from us. Thoughts?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495994108 127472936,127496821,2017-05-28 18:04:12,"libertarian book club discord /ufGw8s Going to start in a few days reading through the reccomended list and a few others. I know most of you fuckers are too lazy or unmotivated to read hopefully this might help some of you.",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-no-crime-to-be-ignorant-of-economics-which-is-after-all-a-specialized-discipline-and-one-murray-rothbard-263126.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,US,,1495994652 127472936,127497128,2017-05-28 18:06:41,">>127472936 classcucks",,Anonymous,tumblr_nows3lgsVZ1slixf5o1_500.jpg,7RMLfpSUlR0tlF0t735hmQ==,US,,1495994801 127472936,127497656,2017-05-28 18:11:31,">>127495718 I disagree, non-agression as a concept is fine, just make it clear that libertarianism has nothing to do with anyones faggot social agenda.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495995091 127472936,127497732,2017-05-28 18:12:15,">>127495718 The Nap is simply one of multiple law frames within Anarcho Capitalism. Most likely the cheapest you could buy, as it offers minimal protection compared to other potential insurances.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1495995135 127472936,127497825,2017-05-28 18:13:05,bump,,Anonymous,mysoul.jpg,xSFDAf+l5r2FO6YHfQ8XNw==,NL,,1495995185 127472936,127498518,2017-05-28 18:19:08,,,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,US,,1495995548 127472936,127499212,2017-05-28 18:25:24,Is there a snek-chan cute anime grill ?,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1495995924 127472936,127499472,2017-05-28 18:27:23,">>127498518 found the buzzfeed article slamming him from reverse image search and found this in the article. Wonder if they will edit it in a few months when SA goes under.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495996043 127472936,127499621,2017-05-28 18:28:35,>>127499472,,Anonymous,enhanced-buzz-17047-1318022693-38.jpg,zK5ijtFH0HcCy+ji34Bztg==,US,,1495996115 127472936,127499635,2017-05-28 18:28:51,">>127499472 Please post, I've been looking for info, it's mostly been wiped from the internet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1495996131 127531288,127531288,2017-05-28 23:45:48,"Copying slovakbro because I'm lazy edition This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1495294972849s.jpg,X5pQtAWS6HcMsWm93rth6w==,US,,1496015148 127531288,127531336,2017-05-28 23:46:25,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496015185 127531288,127531388,2017-05-28 23:47:01,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496015221 127531288,127531428,2017-05-28 23:47:33,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496015253 127531288,127531469,2017-05-28 23:48:01,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496015281 127601780,127601780,2017-05-29 14:15:11,"THE THREAD IS DEAD LONG LIVE THE THREAD >Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - DON'T THREAD ON ME EDITION,Anonymous,pinochet death squads pol logo.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,SK,,1496067311 127601780,127601830,2017-05-29 14:15:40,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,libertarian conservatism.png,OAHDkrRctCEogi1tRFvE+Q==,SK,,1496067340 127601780,127601882,2017-05-29 14:16:06,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1496067366 127601780,127602461,2017-05-29 14:21:06,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff >facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism >facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,do it for hoppe.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,SK,,1496067666 127601780,127602681,2017-05-29 14:23:07,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,hippity hoppity get off my property.jpg,B7dUzmLWkuGISCelso1NPA==,SK,,1496067787 127601780,127602687,2017-05-29 14:23:13,">>127601830 lol you saved that image, noice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496067793 127601780,127602713,2017-05-29 14:23:28,">Do you support open borders? No, in a private property society the only people who would have ""freedom of movement"" to enter said property would have to be specifically invited in, by default this would mean no one is allowed in without the property owners consent. Murray Rothbard had this to say on the matter. >If every piece of land in a country were owned by some person, group, or corporation, this would mean that no person could enter unless invited to enter and allowed to rent or purchase property. A totally privatized country would be as closed as the particular property owners desire. It seems clear, then, that the regime of open borders that exists de facto in the U.S. and Western Europe really amounts to a compulsory opening by the central state, the state in charge of all streets and public land areas, and does not genuinely reflect the wishes of the proprietors. >Nations by Consent - Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Natural Order, The State, and the Immigration Problem - Hans-Hermann Hoppe http://famguardian.org/subjects/Discrimination/Articles/RightToExclude.pdf >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property - Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property",,Anonymous,OpenBorders2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1496067808 127601780,127602720,2017-05-29 14:23:32,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc",,Anonymous,lrg and nsg vs cg.png,OuDRtlyA/LdtiaK7/qtqiw==,SK,,1496067812 127601780,127602802,2017-05-29 14:24:12,On Degeneracy.,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1496067852 127601780,127602841,2017-05-29 14:24:32,">>127602687 I save most of them. 4th Memetic Supply Army.",,Anonymous,hoppe ancapwave.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,SK,,1496067872 127601780,127602900,2017-05-29 14:25:05,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,hayek pepe.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,SK,,1496067905 127601780,127602986,2017-05-29 14:25:55,,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1496067955 127601780,127603031,2017-05-29 14:26:20,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1496067980 127601780,127603053,2017-05-29 14:26:33,"Recommending The Production of Security by Gustave Molinari, notable for being one of the first elaborations of purely anarcho-capitalist beliefs. https://mises.org/system/tdf/The%20Production%20of%20Security_3.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496067993 127601780,127603182,2017-05-29 14:27:35,">>127603053 Links an error for me m8.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1496068055 127601780,127603269,2017-05-29 14:28:21,,,Anonymous,hoppe-senpai.jpg,xPYHlnJ8Byb5vByoB1jjBA==,SK,,1496068101 127601780,127603272,2017-05-29 14:28:22,">>127603182 https://mises.org/system/tdf/The%20Production%20of%20Security_3.pdf?file=1&type=document Trying to truncate the URL a bit, to no avail!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496068102 127601780,127603353,2017-05-29 14:29:03,,,Anonymous,1485703346145.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1496068143 127601780,127603471,2017-05-29 14:30:22,"Commies have to take a dirt NAP. The question is: how? Hard mode - no helicopters. Personally, I'd suggest woodchippers while they're still alive and using the ground-up body material as shrapnel in barrel bombs.",,Anonymous,hoppe costanza.png,pIgAdJvpGAMA/mdAZbYiDw==,SK,,1496068222 127601780,127603603,2017-05-29 14:31:30,">living in a country where the state even owns your organs, and you are a donor by default.",,Anonymous,no monopol pls.jpg,pnkOham1h9WbQKLB/gYTPA==,AT,,1496068290 127601780,127603785,2017-05-29 14:33:11,">>127603471 communist mass graves to plug potholes in our decaying roadways. >>127603603 for fuckin' real?",,Anonymous,Untitled-1.png,5veZO4dkaYvo1XZb31sSsQ==,US,,1496068391 127601780,127603981,2017-05-29 14:34:53,">>127603603 Collect Van der Bellend's organs for a change. Fucking Hofer should have just shot him and got crowned Emperor of Austria.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496068493 127601780,127604118,2017-05-29 14:36:01,">>127603785 Yes you have to register as a non donor unlike in other states and people who knows it are totally ok with this. The land of austrian economics became a socialist shithole. >>127603981 Commiefags in theh government are probably those who get the organs first since socialist healthcaresystem",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1496068561 127601780,127604264,2017-05-29 14:37:15,">>127604118 Wow, Hoppe was right. Democracy should have never happened.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496068635 127601780,127604518,2017-05-29 14:39:26,">>127603785 >http://www.goeg.at/de/Bereich/Fragen-und-Antworten.html could only find it in german maybe slovakbro understands >Nach der österreichischen Rechtslage stehen Sie automatisch als Organspender zur Verfügung, solange Sie nicht zu Lebzeiten einen Widerspruch deponiert haben. It basically says due austrian law youre automatically an organ donor, if you don't constitute your will against it during your lifetime.",,Anonymous,Iona aboardme.jpg,QUCy4nu8CP1UAdJVtrOjDw==,AT,,1496068766 127601780,127604528,2017-05-29 14:39:31,"The NAP is a fucking joke. Every person has a ""natural"" right to exactly one thing -- violent resistance. The economic reality is that the private holding of property is only tolerated if adequate value is returned to the public. Hoppean spooks don't factor into it at all.",,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,qRTOEHykmZpkYN/5E/pwFA==,SE,,1496068771 127601780,127604784,2017-05-29 14:41:50,">>127604264 Also you are considered dead by braindeath so your heart is still pounding while they rob you.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1496068910 127601780,127604803,2017-05-29 14:42:02,">>127604528 Your neck vertebrae will become spooks after a gunship crushes you, you fucking Stirnerite.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496068922 127601780,127604890,2017-05-29 14:42:52,">>127604784 beating",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1496068972 127601780,127604992,2017-05-29 14:43:42,"Need moar like this. Our meme skills must be able to compete with the edginess of natsocs or else we'renot the cool kids anymore. Come on guys, gimme some dank pinochet libertywave memes.",,Anonymous,means_to_liberty.png,xUjTEwGhRz51DLacYZ2KXA==,US,,1496069022 127601780,127605301,2017-05-29 14:46:13,">>127604784 >mfw make sure your heartbeat is good for when they cut you open with a knife",,Anonymous,carl.jpg,uJZezSq4/KqlT7cCD8alFg==,SK,,1496069173 127601780,127605645,2017-05-29 14:49:01,">>127604992 shiet nibba i'm shit at memes and i run a meme page, so i know my limits",,Anonymous,anticom unit.jpg,rRrqNMd9Jq+gOT07WKP9VQ==,SK,,1496069341 127601780,127605872,2017-05-29 14:50:43,"I don't really believe in a lot of Libertarian ideals, I don't think taxation is theft and I don't really care about privatizing everything like roads and shit. I lean pretty far right on things like Immigration. I do however believe strongly in personal liberties (Guns, gay marriage and drugs, for example) Am I a Libertarian? That's what I've been calling myself for a few years now but I'm not really sure if it fits",,Anonymous,1485953287457.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,US,,1496069443 127601780,127605913,2017-05-29 14:50:58,">>127605301 well not exactly, saying they keep you alive so your organs are longer fresh would be better, after rereading my comment. but I think you get what I was saying.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1496069458 127601780,127606475,2017-05-29 14:55:23,">>127604992 Hows this?",,Anonymous,Pinochet.png,Msim3NPGWupV/N+e7MwESA==,US,,1496069723 127601780,127606631,2017-05-29 14:56:37,">>127605872 Degeneracy like drugs and gay marriage are not Libertarian. You sound like a neocon or a paleocon, not enough information to decide one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496069797 127601780,127606666,2017-05-29 14:56:54,">>127606475 Fuck yeah thanks man, now we just need some quotes on top of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496069814 127601780,127606735,2017-05-29 14:57:36,">>127604803 In fantasyland, because ancap is inherently impossible. You think the outcome of the removal of the ""monopoly of violence"" will be one thing, when it can be shown to be another.",,Anonymous,strasser.jpg,qmypWdtrAq3DYY8ik77tPg==,SE,,1496069856 127601780,127606779,2017-05-29 14:57:57,">>127605645 You in anticom my dude?",,Anonymous,eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL2Rpc2NvcmQuc3RvcmFnZS5nb29nbGVhcGlzLmNvbS9hdHRhY2htZW50cy8yOTQ5NDY0ODk3NTM1MzQ0NjUvMzE3NzY0NTk5MDM2Mzc5MTM2L0NPTU1VTklTTVVOQUNDRVBUQUJMRTMucG5nIn0.JiEMrlKfo2P7icaAdmFIXQdVs6Y.png,fVvXVp4AVuGJn1yH8pi9Jg==,US,,1496069877 127601780,127606899,2017-05-29 14:59:00,">>127606666 nice quads >>127606735 fuck off strasser commie, you're more irrelevant than geofags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496069940 127601780,127607220,2017-05-29 15:01:41,">>127606899 What did kek mean by this?>>127606666",,Anonymous,eJwNy1EOxBAQANC7OIBRFNPbzKqoRBGmX83efff9v1c8s4pDXMxjHQBnWbHPUy7uk3KSufdcE42yZOw3EDPF606NF2jv0Ozog3EYNmWNBqNUsOhQu2D9ZjA4oMblPz9Uqxwti-8Pmp4kcw.YCINGdJx0Xzqk-wb9Pj7-hsiWFs.png,KdPjqZykk2bDVVQgWobwkw==,US,,1496070101 127601780,127608641,2017-05-29 15:13:51,">>127606475 How's this?",,Anonymous,pinochet.png,fJk+zIeC5I4jZ/zsN4Y7DQ==,US,,1496070831 127601780,127608884,2017-05-29 15:16:01,These threads are always put a smile on my face,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496070961 127601780,127608909,2017-05-29 15:16:17,pretty damn good.,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1496070977 127601780,127608952,2017-05-29 15:16:38,">>127608641 Anyone has the hoppe quote where he rants about left libertarians? Wouldn't it fit?",,Anonymous,snek.jpg,q7xW4LsorYNsDDcwVrLZXA==,AT,,1496070998 127601780,127609023,2017-05-29 15:17:15,">>127608884 lets turn more frowns upside down as they fall of the helicopter",,Anonymous,1494341022829.jpg,tQypJTj69WSCiczt+QHSBQ==,US,,1496071035 127601780,127609078,2017-05-29 15:17:41,">>127608641 >>127608909 >>127608952 this one?",,Anonymous,misc (9).png,tr1x+FeahS7m1fth08IJrg==,US,,1496071061 127601780,127609818,2017-05-29 15:23:38,,,Anonymous,hoppeanism.png,/yCVyLxXc08n4wtK5PdSew==,US,,1496071418 127601780,127609940,2017-05-29 15:24:52,">>127609078 Maybe, but as I remember there was a part were he described them and their motivation.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1496071492 127601780,127610546,2017-05-29 15:29:39,">>127606899 Not an argument. Anclaps would rather suck cock than betray the NAP. In ancap society, if your boss tells you to suck his dick or get fired from the only farm with a spot for you, you would get on your knees. You can't even prove me wrong on that. Your ideology is literally gay by design. Violence is a human right, therefore, you are sub-human. Fucking debate me if I'm wrong !",,Anonymous,colonelG.jpg,9+nc8b8qJNoXvoAXenmwXQ==,SE,,1496071779 127601780,127611330,2017-05-29 15:35:31,">>127601780 i have an interview for a state job doing licensing shit in a very desirable location this week. I studied political science like a fool and this may be the best chance i ever get to actually perform a job that requires a college degree. The pay and benefits are better than offered by the private sector, as you are aware. I currently work through a temp agency in a warehouse for a company that sells women's clothing online for minimum wage. I walk 8-9 miles every shift power-walking around this warehouse. I am a member of the libertarian-right. What do?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496072131 127601780,127611510,2017-05-29 15:36:55,">>127605872 You're a lolbertarian. You need to up your game. Also, drop social liberalism. It's not bloody worth it, mate.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496072215 127601780,127611537,2017-05-29 15:37:07,">>127610546 Your post contains 0 arguments, first you say we suck dicks, that ancap is somehow Homosexual by design, and that we Are sub human. All of which are claims without evidence or argumentation. Eat shit retard, you're not worth debating.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496072227 127601780,127611566,2017-05-29 15:37:19,">>127605913 It's a The Right Stuff meme.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496072239 127601780,127611680,2017-05-29 15:38:16,">>127611330 do it, we need more infiltrators and resistance from within when the time comes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496072296 127601780,127611729,2017-05-29 15:38:37,">>127606631 >degeneracy >paleocon Nah, it's more like the standard Libertarian Party position. Not what we want, but we all start somewhere.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496072317 127601780,127611822,2017-05-29 15:39:20,">>127610546 >In a statist society, if your official tells you to suck his dick or get literally fired from the barrel of a gun, you would get on your knees. You can't even prove me wrong on that. Your ideology is literally gay by design. wew lad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496072360 127601780,127611914,2017-05-29 15:39:58,">>127606735 Oh, you're a Strasshole. Even worse. Yeah, I bet subsidising low production is going to end up very well for you. Like I said, if another asshole tries to establish a monopoly, we have helicopters for that.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496072398 127601780,127612057,2017-05-29 15:40:56,">>127610546 What if I pay my boss, so I can suck his dick?",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1496072456 127601780,127612147,2017-05-29 15:41:31,">>127606779 Check my flag. Our antifa is so weak, I'd have to become a domestic terrorist to be an actual freedom fighter, and I don't feel like it just yet. Fico may be a commie, but at least now he can't do shit against the Slovak people.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496072491 127601780,127612175,2017-05-29 15:41:39,">>127611537 What are you talking about? I gave you a scenario about sexual exploitation. Answer the question, would you violate the NAP or suck some dick if it suits you economically? Look at my first post in the thread. >>127604528 Lots of arguments, but I just get called a stirnerite AND a strasser commie. You guys just post memes and screech autistically. Here's your chance to put your beliefs to the test.",,Anonymous,jcdd.jpg,+I3Eff+6hlROeex9ziV0Gw==,SE,,1496072499 127601780,127612308,2017-05-29 15:42:40,">>127612175 I'd not work on the faggots farm, I can grow corn and potatoes without him idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496072560 127601780,127612347,2017-05-29 15:43:01,">>127611822 I would kill him or die trying, because I don't abide by the gayass NAP.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496072581 127601780,127612462,2017-05-29 15:43:52,mao zedong was a good leader.,,Anonymous,16sino-mao-master675.jpg,trn5bm25FkfQXA753b+voA==,US,,1496072632 127601780,127612546,2017-05-29 15:44:22,">>127612175 >would you violate the NAP or suck some dick if it suits you economically? I know this is an extremely difficult concept for a swede to understand, but you can CHOOSE not to suck dick, you know? no violence needed >>127612462 very good at leading people to starvation, yes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496072662 127601780,127612641,2017-05-29 15:45:02,">>127612308 Why would there be unclaimed arable land and water for irrigation? We are essentially using all of it now? If you had no capital, you would HAVE to suck dick, no?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496072702 127601780,127612681,2017-05-29 15:45:15,">>127611729 Maybe I misunderstand what paleocons are but aren't they generally civic nationalists, supporters of weed legalization and homo rights?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496072715 127601780,127612776,2017-05-29 15:46:04,">>127610546 >suck cock Sodomite projection alert. >muh boss Sucking cock is not part of the contract, you utter retard. If violence is a human right, then the allies were right to fry German civilians alive in the firestorms of Hamburg and Dresden. Might makes right, you pussy. Bitching about ""muh war crimes"" won't save you from the fact that you couldn't prevent it. War is a do or die situation. The second half of the war, Hitler choked massively and the result of that was him choking on a gun as he pulled the trigger. Moral of the story - If you want your Reich to be bigger, you better not be a bitch nigger.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496072764 127601780,127612881,2017-05-29 15:46:59,">>127612641 Why would I have no capital? While we're making up hypotheticals what if you had to suck a dick or get fucked in the ass? Ha I guess that proves you're gay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496072819 127601780,127612957,2017-05-29 15:47:25,">>127612546 >>127612641 You are running out of options.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496072845 127601780,127613038,2017-05-29 15:47:56,">>127612546 http://www.revcom.us/a/1248/mao_china_setting_record_straight.htm keep believing in your capitalist propaganda though. >when you hate the state but believe in everything it teaches you about communism",,Anonymous,e15-507.jpg,cbYjnkalYQ731eRYrze5pQ==,US,,1496072876 127601780,127613044,2017-05-29 15:47:58,">>127612347 >gayass NAP Well, if he threatens you at gunpoint, you using force would not be a NAP violation.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496072878 127601780,127613115,2017-05-29 15:48:32,">>127612462 Would you like some political persecution with that famine?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496072912 127601780,127613207,2017-05-29 15:49:13,">>127612957 nice assumption faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496072953 127601780,127613219,2017-05-29 15:49:17,">>127612641 >what if what if what if How many layers of desperation are you on?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496072957 127601780,127613414,2017-05-29 15:50:51,">>127612681 Don't think so. Pat Buchanan is a paleocon, for example. So is Jared Taylor, I think. They're generally for restricted immigration, traditional society, a smaller government, a more or less free market, and against military interventions.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496073051 127601780,127613493,2017-05-29 15:51:28,">>127613115 a country that just resisted japanese imperialism, went through a civil war with a backwards economy cannot possibly avoid famines. by your logic, capitalism and winston churchill are to be blamed for the indian famines under british rule. the difference is, mao and inner party members vowed to not eat meat while the famine was still present, while churchill blamed the indians for ""breeding too much"" for the famine.",,Anonymous,e13-644.jpg,lMhjlD7sptLG1SUJ98U3Rw==,US,,1496073088 127601780,127613651,2017-05-29 15:52:23,">>127613038 >The Great Sparrow Campaign (Chinese: 打麻雀运动; pinyin: Dǎ Máquè Yùndòng), also known as the Kill a Sparrow Campaign (Chinese: 消灭麻雀运动; pinyin: Xiāomiè Máquè Yùndòng) and, officially, as the Four Pests Campaign, was one of the first actions taken in the Great Leap Forward in China from 1958 to 1962. The four pests to be eliminated were rats, flies, mosquitoes, and sparrows. >By April 1960, Chinese leaders realized that sparrows ate a large amount of insects, as well as grains.[7][8] Rather than being increased, rice yields after the campaign were substantially decreased.[9][8] Mao ordered the end of the campaign against sparrows, replacing them with bed bugs, as the extermination of the former upset the ecological balance, and bugs destroyed crops as a result of the absence of natural predators.[10] By this time, however, it was too late. With no sparrows to eat them, locust populations ballooned, swarming the country and compounding the ecological problems already caused by the Great Leap Forward, including widespread deforestation and misuse of poisons and pesticides.[9] Ecological imbalance is credited with exacerbating the Great Chinese Famine, in which 20–45 million people died of starvation.[11][12] >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_Campaign [laughter intensifies]",,Anonymous,1491358353597.png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,US,,1496073143 127601780,127613813,2017-05-29 15:53:32,">>127613038 Let me lay it out for you in simple terms. The state teaches us to love democracy, which leads to communism. It feeds us the ""not real communism"" line without mentioning the fact that real communism = real equity = total annihilation of everything. That's why the more communistic a regime became, the more people died. Because the only time two people are equal is when they're both six feet under.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496073212 127601780,127613822,2017-05-29 15:53:37,">>127613493 Fine, why do we have do defend Churchill? He has nothing to do with us. Mao was still a shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496073217 127601780,127613836,2017-05-29 15:53:40,">>127602713 >private borders Funny how lolbertarians justify open borders with shit like ""lol sure we will flood the country with muslims but its not like they are going to be allowed on your property lol #privateborders"" Fuck off globalists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496073220 127601780,127613919,2017-05-29 15:54:15,">>127612776 Might DOES make right, in fact, might makes property. >>127612881 YOU are denying yourself the option of violent resistance. Then obvsiously you should face hypotheticals were you are forced to commit sensual acts or perish. >>127613044 >>127613219 He does NOT threaten you at gunpoint. I never said that. Read the premises. This is a reasonable hypothetical given the NAP, think about it, the NAP is absurd.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496073255 127601780,127614071,2017-05-29 15:55:34,">>127613836 You literally didn't read it. We're talking about real government enforced national borders as a libertarian policy. Your b8 is weak.",,Anonymous,DontBait_0.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1496073334 127601780,127614190,2017-05-29 15:56:27,">>127613493 Nationalist China resisted the Japs. Famines under a free, capitalistic economy are a result of gross incompetence of those who store the crops, or a poor following of the market. Because people are incentivised to produce food in a system of division of labour, something else has to go wrong in order for the system to fail. And yes, poos can definitely chill it with the breeding. If white people bred so much while receiving aid, they'd be called parasites, and rightfully so.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496073387 127601780,127614303,2017-05-29 15:57:16,">>127614071 >if every piece of land was owned by a corporation who decide who is invited or not we would have closed borders Yeah corporations would totally hate to invite third world cheap labor into the country",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496073436 127601780,127614474,2017-05-29 15:58:24,">>127613207 It's really simple, if someone is extorting you by holding vital property and you deny yourself the right to violent resistance, you forfeit your dignity. There is every economic justification for all arable land to be held. If I'm wrong just debate me. Unused arable land is an inefficiency, the free-market eliminates inefficiencies.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496073504 127601780,127614519,2017-05-29 15:58:41,">>127613836 How the fuck are you gonna let them in if there is no public property they can infest and no state to leech off of? The only thing I could think of would be a private institution providing rooms to them, which would 1) only work for a very small number of immigrants 2) be fucking retarded since it would cost them a lot of money and reputation and bring only negative results. Immigration, and therefore forced integration, can only be enforced by the state.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496073521 127601780,127614636,2017-05-29 15:59:28,">>127613651 nothing speaks louder than a loudmouthed idiot who cites wikipedia. >>127613813 >That's why the more communistic a regime became, the more people died pic related is literally what you're saying. how stupid. >>127613822 churchill was a capitalist, mao was a communist. if you criticize mao, i have a right to criticize churchill. >>127614190 a majority of the peasants supported the communists, the nationalists were a minority, but keep swallowing that capitalist propaganda",,Anonymous,ynsYzQKKNooRip-xH7OSwmUTT4OaUenHd75qUYHgXZo.jpg,S6Vty5AzhTxlAjR9M9Bejw==,US,,1496073568 127601780,127614657,2017-05-29 15:59:37,">>127612681 no think tea party, they are also really protectionist unlike these globalist free trade loving libertarian ""right wingers""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496073577 127601780,127614888,2017-05-29 16:01:19,"Mao Zedong >>> Ayn Rand or any right-wing ""libertarian"" desu",,Anonymous,Mao DELET THIS.png,7SMYBqJmZgBCFEVzspsOuA==,US,,1496073679 127601780,127615029,2017-05-29 16:02:29,"Need some help understanding something. In one of Hoppe's videos on jewtube he talks about the german states in the 1800s and he mentions that the decentralization of germany created competition with low taxes and lots of important cities and universities. Most of the universities where state sponsored though. Some my question is besides low taxes, are small states with limited revenue more efficient with their tax money i.e. small efficient armies, bureaucracies, and road systems with a willingness to sponsor science and technology? Minus of course the occasional prestige palace projects.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496073749 127601780,127615033,2017-05-29 16:02:31,">>127614888 Can't wrong the Dong!!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496073751 127601780,127615155,2017-05-29 16:03:22,">>127614303 What would make their labor cheaper? It's not like there's a minimum wage that they'd be undercutting. Prices aren't cheaper just because they'd take a low wage. Exactly why do you believe the local people couldn't complete or be more desirable worker than the shitniggers?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496073802 127601780,127615248,2017-05-29 16:03:59,">>127614636 >College communist:the post",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496073839 127601780,127615291,2017-05-29 16:04:17,">>127614474 >if someone is extorting you by holding vital property top kek, how are they extorting me? you go somewhere else, you sperg >>127614636 >nothing speaks louder than a loudmouthed idiot who cites wikipedia. not an argument. You acknowledge that it did happen, and that the consequences were real. People starved under your shitty system, who woulda guessed? >kill bird you think was useless >it actually wasn't useless o i am laffin > if you criticize mao, i have a right to criticize churchill. >let me criticize a government leader >on a general about anti-government go criticize churchill somewhere else then, we don't give a shit >>127614888 >Ayn Rand if all you know about libertarianism is that frail bitch, you hardly know what you're talking about lul",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496073857 127601780,127615376,2017-05-29 16:04:47,">>127614888 >tfw you found your country but it become a world power only after it liberalize it's economy Pathetic",,Anonymous,image.jpg,wHRkmLOQXUkusOmPgZt61A==,FR,,1496073887 127601780,127615401,2017-05-29 16:04:58,">>127613919 Well fascism, national socialism, and similar ideologies were defeated numerous times and won seldom. That means you're not very mighty, that means you're not very right at all, are you? As for the sodomite boss situation, people like him had long ago been gotten rid of during the violent revolution leading up to the ancap era. If he somehow slipped through, then he'd have to have my consent to suck his dick whenever he asks me to through the work contract, which I wouldn't give. That means if he wants to suspend the contract, I have full right to sue him for denying me my livelihood. You keep tightening the leash around the ""argument"", however. Presuming there's no other arable land. Presuming I have no other job opportunities and no capital of my own. Not everybody is a poorfag. However, my answer is I'd kill him because I have reasonable proof that he's a sodomite and thus a health hazard to everyone around him. That's even NAP-compliant, when we take it to the logical conclusion. Now for you - defend the forceful redistribution of wealth from the position of a man who's holding onto a helicopter's landing skid, staring down the barrel of a RWDS member's rifle.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496073898 127601780,127615403,2017-05-29 16:05:00,">>127614519 >How the fuck are you gonna let them in if there is no public property they can infest and no state to leech off of? If the corporations own all the land like in your libertarian paradise, you better be damn sure that they are going to allow cheap slave labor in. You do know that big farms and corporations love third world immigrants right? They can pay them $3 an hour, they are the biggest supporters of illegal immigration. You are delusional if you believe corporations will put nation over profits. >The only thing I could think of would be a private institution providing rooms to them Corporations would be more than happy to do that to get cheap labor. They do that till this day, they provide homes for illegals picking crops and then charge them rent. >Immigration, and therefore forced integration, can only be enforced by the state True, which is why libertarian ism is retarded",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496073900 127601780,127615450,2017-05-29 16:05:19,">>127614657 >>127613414 Well good to know",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496073919 127601780,127615732,2017-05-29 16:07:22,">>127614636 Ok that's fine, you can criticise Churchill. What does that have to do with the merits of Mao's regime? We never brought him up as someone we support. You said you support Mao because Churchill was bad. It makes no sense dude. Why do I care if Churchill was good? We've never expressed him as a good model for capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496074042 127601780,127615817,2017-05-29 16:08:00,">>127614636 You don't get rights, you commie. I'm not sure if I've made myself clear, but by not believing in property and trying to push that idea by force, you've forfeited your right to live. If the majority of the peasants supported the communist, then I'm glad they starved to death because of their dear leader's retardation.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496074080 127601780,127616018,2017-05-29 16:09:22,">>127614888 Ayn Rand is not /lrg/-approved. Mao Zedong is fucking based for having killed millions upon millions of chinks, many of whom were commies as well.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496074162 127601780,127616024,2017-05-29 16:09:25,"The second governments are abolished, Google hires a nice army for a few billions and makes you all slaves. Prove me wrong. No NAP bullshit, nobody will care about your damn NAP if it isn't enforced.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496074165 127601780,127616160,2017-05-29 16:10:19,">>127615155 >What would make their labor cheaper? Willingness to work for $2 an hour for a start. You dont need to give third world immigrants healthcare benefits, vacation time and are willing to work more than hours than 5 to 8 a day without a need for weekends. >Prices aren't cheaper just because they'd take a low wage Yet corporations cry that they are going to have to raise prices if they have to raise the minimum wage for their workers > Exactly why do you believe the local people couldn't complete or be more desirable worker than the shitniggers? I dont know man, maybe because there was a whole working class revolt this past election mostly against illegal immigration because corporations would rather hire illegals because of muh profits",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496074219 127601780,127616169,2017-05-29 16:10:22,">>127613219 >>127613207 >>127612881 What the fuck? Aren't you the argument posse? 1: There is every incentive for all arable land to be held in a free-market. 2: A person that cannot aquire capital because it is already held, will always be in a dependent position relative to the capital-holder. 3: Denying the right to violence makes anyone who has NEED vulnerable to unlimited extortion. If all 3 are true... are you considering sucking dick?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496074222 127601780,127616366,2017-05-29 16:11:50,">>127615029 Look up the holy roman empire, pretty libertarian if you can accept that nobles can own property. Decentralization was goo dbecuase all cities wanted to show each other who is the best so they competed in everything especially universities. Also besides Prussia there weren't really state funded since the aristocracy hat put in their own capital, to rise their people on a higher level. Armies also functioned as police and were under each ruler of their respective county. And our Kaiser despite being emporer over the whole reich had in fact very little influence and was more a moral authority.",,Anonymous,Banner_of_the_Holy_Roman_Emperor_with_haloes_(1400-1806).svg.png,W983DKcZgG0g4fB8oCMY5g==,AT,,1496074310 127601780,127616377,2017-05-29 16:11:54,">>127614636 >>127615732 >>127616018 Also if Churchill is to blame for the Indians' famine (spoiler alert - he's not, India is a large country with enough arable land to feed itself and nobody pressed them not to farm food), that's a good thing. Fewer mouths to feed.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496074314 127601780,127616543,2017-05-29 16:13:14,">>127616024 Then we waste their army and put their heads on spikes. You see, Google has a lot more to lose than we do. Besides, (((you))). The only reason we listen to our enemies is to learn what they're up to.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496074394 127601780,127616552,2017-05-29 16:13:18,,,Anonymous,IMG_6373.jpg,6Xb825RBhXdIM9i6Q/kLvA==,US,,1496074398 127601780,127616598,2017-05-29 16:13:38,,,Anonymous,IMG_6374.jpg,w95hVmgD9HqZspH8ZFkR0A==,US,,1496074418 127601780,127616879,2017-05-29 16:15:39,">>127616169 I already answered the question. He's a sodomites and sodomites are a health hazard. But I don't use the NAP when dealing with people who just want to wrong me. It's a good way to guide general relations between people, but if one of them decides to go out of their way to be a dick, I see nothing wrong with putting them six feet under to maintain a stable society.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496074539 127601780,127616972,2017-05-29 16:16:15,">>127601780 >>127601830 I like this how can I help",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496074575 127601780,127617044,2017-05-29 16:16:48,">>127615403 >If the corporations own all the land the bigger ""if"" question is what if retards stop assuming all the land will be sold. Freedom is free to reject as much as it to accept, this assumption that corporations will suddenly and spontaneously own everything, and that they're all the same and all equally terrible is pure idiocy lost on the irony that what they're basically describing is big government not everybody will sell their land, and certainly not everybody will sell their land to one entity. If your premise fails, then the question is nullified out of its absurdity >>127616024 >other corporations are just going to let one corporation rule them all they're going to form a mutual agreement to eliminate the aggressor and establish a temporary retaliatory army to delet google. Individual corporations make much more profit if left alone to rule what they have in competition instead of allowing someone to bitch them around like a pseudo-gov >>127616169 >1: There is every incentive for all arable land to be held in a free-market. provided they can purchase the land, enforce its ownership by building on it, and then sustaining ownership of the land which costs time and resources that can't be done on a whim >2: A person that cannot aquire capital because it is already held, will always be in a dependent position relative to the capital-holder. they can acquire capital based on a contractual job that outlines the nature and duty of the job, obligations, and what they are expected/not expected to do. It's not a ""dependent position"", it's mutual agreement for mutual gain, otherwise they don't work for them and they lose employees >3: Denying the right to violence makes anyone who has NEED vulnerable to unlimited extortion. nigger-tier logic that calls for violence when things can be resolved peacefully through negotiation >If all 3 are true... are you considering sucking dick? all three are false, so you're the only one sucking dick here sven",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496074608 127601780,127617260,2017-05-29 16:18:15,">>127604528 >private property is only permissible if the people around you benefit from your private property You benefit from my ownership of a house, the land around it, and the items inside it by remaining secure in your own ownership of your house, surrounding land, and contained items. To compromise my property rights is to tacitly refuse the security I have allowed you to have. Ergo, any retribution I enact to re-secure my own property is legitimate, since you've refused any of the security you gain in not being stabbed, shot, etc. You can choose not to tolerate my property rights, in the same way that I may choose not to tolerate the flow of air down your throat.",,Anonymous,hip hop fuck op.jpg,v1Qh/ZEDuIngc7xRt2VBuA==,US,,1496074695 127601780,127617290,2017-05-29 16:18:32,">>127616160 Yeah there's an incentive for immigration because the state forbids the locals to compete with the Brown people. It's literally economic policy that benefits the illegals over locals. You dismissed my whole point and went on with the same argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496074712 127601780,127617349,2017-05-29 16:18:57,">>127616972 Post the general if you don't see it in the catalog. To find it in the catalog, press Search and type in ""lrg"". If ""Nothing Found"" is displayed, go to the pastebin link and post it broken up into several posts marked by the // symbol.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496074737 127601780,127617456,2017-05-29 16:19:43,">>127616972 Propagate, and shill for the cause. If you have any media skills create some related content.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496074783 127601780,127617468,2017-05-29 16:19:47,">>127615291 See >>127616169 >>127615401 >Well fascism, national socialism, and similar ideologies were defeated numerous times and won seldom. >That means you're not very mighty, that means you're not very right at all, are you? I don't accept the premise that I'm a nazi, fascist or similar. And you know full-well that you are misinterpreting the maxim, it has nothing to do with the truth question. >As for the sodomite boss situation, people like him had long ago been gotten rid of during the violent revolution leading up to the ancap era. So you're saying that even though the potential for exploitation exists, no one would ever use it? That's a pretty choice opinion on human nature, rational humans use the potential available to further their positions. >That means if he wants to suspend the contract, I have full right to sue him for denying me my livelihood. What makes an ancap court system different than the current one. They both form to fulfill a need, they are both formed ultimately from convention. >I'd kill him because I have reasonable proof that he's a sodomite and thus a health hazard to everyone around him. You exercise your right to violent resistance. >Now for you - defend the forceful redistribution of wealth from the position of a man who's holding onto a helicopter's landing skid, staring down the barrel of a RWDS member's rifle. I don't defend it, the non-redistribution is a fact. But it has nothing to do with natural law or the NAP. Congrats ur a stirnerite, now let go of your spooks.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496074787 127601780,127617527,2017-05-29 16:20:11,">>127616543 I have to do a bit of soul searching to explain why I expected an even semi-coherent response from a Slovak.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496074811 127601780,127617538,2017-05-29 16:20:14,">>127602687 i just did too",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496074814 127601780,127617786,2017-05-29 16:21:51,">>127617468 It's NAP-compliant to remove health hazards, even ones with a pulse.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496074911 127601780,127617860,2017-05-29 16:22:16,">>127617044 no but all it takes for the country to be flooded by muslims is for 3 or 4 corporations to allow them in. Really how fucking hard is it to just have a government that does not allow immigrants in, but you guys will do anything so that big daddy capitalism not get hurt, fucking cucks >they're going to form a mutual agreement to eliminate the aggressor and establish a temporary retaliatory army to delet google. Individual corporations make much more profit if left alone to rule what they have in competition instead of allowing someone to bitch them around like a pseudo-gov yeah that is so realistic, seems like in your scenario corporations will be literally killing each other with private armies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496074936 127601780,127618080,2017-05-29 16:23:47,"This ideology is nearly as bad as Marxism. In fact, it is only intended to weaken economic protectionism in western nations to the point that Marxists can knock them over.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075027 127601780,127618152,2017-05-29 16:24:18,">>127617527 Go search for your soul in my airborne oven. I bet you'll be able to see all six of the gorillions from up there.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1496075058 127601780,127618265,2017-05-29 16:25:05,">>127617260 Property is a human activity, not a principle. You hold a house, because the cost you impose on intruders is greater than the value of your house. You hold natural resources or means of production with much greater difficulty. These same mechanisms form the argument for the organization of resources under a ""state"". Yet you complain?",,Anonymous,sickeningputrefactionRMARTIN.jpg,0zGmGdQqxJHlXGKnxe+bEg==,SE,,1496075105 127601780,127618321,2017-05-29 16:25:34,">>127617290 >the state does not allow us to exploit American workers that is why we are forced to bring people from other countries so we can exploit them Ok I get what you are saying, if there is no state banning you from exploiting your workers then you will have no need to bring foreign workers to exploit. Tell me again how lolbertarians are not kikes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075134 127601780,127618488,2017-05-29 16:26:49,">>127617860 >fucking cucks Anyone who accepts a coercive authority over himself is a cuck. Corporations are created through the state, so they would be quite short-lived in an ancap society, when people stop buying their products out of sheer spite. Then the people and their properties are going to be protected by themselves and any private defense contractors that are paid by them. Also, not all nations like to import muslims, just so you know.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496075209 127601780,127618538,2017-05-29 16:27:08,">>127617786 You are just proving that the NAP means nothing, it's a spook. Streamline your ideology by tossing it in the garbage.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496075228 127601780,127618542,2017-05-29 16:27:08,">>127617044 So the only answer to one corporation's army is other corporation's armies? It's going to be a world war of mega-corporations, with civvies forcefully recruited into service. And what happens when the dust settles and there is finally only one corporation or an alliance of corporations? You actually believe any single person would be allowed to own a factory, a piece of land, a grocery store or a website in a world ruled by mega-corporations that are instrinctly programmed to maximizing their profits?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496075228 127601780,127618559,2017-05-29 16:27:13,"how do libfags defend the fact that without government to protect individual rights, corps will get so competitive they will just stomp on them? I am curious.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075233 127601780,127618563,2017-05-29 16:27:15,">>127616366 I was under the impression that universities were state funded but the aristocracy spending their own money on them makes sense for dickwaving competitions. So basically cities and the numerous states had to be efficent to survive. Thanks for the reply",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075235 127601780,127618781,2017-05-29 16:28:39,">>127617860 >Really how fucking hard is it to just have a government that does not allow immigrants in right, because that same government is what gives these shitskins gibs and welfare? there's so realistic incentive for mass muslim migration if there's no gibs, and people can have private property discriminatory policies against their kind, while also be free to not hire them in the first place. Racial discrimination will be the norm, these globalist shitskins won't have anything to migrate for >you guys will do anything so that big daddy capitalism not get hurt, fucking cucks and you will do the same so that big nanny gov not get hurt, fucking turbocuck >yeah that is so realistic, seems like in your scenario corporations will be literally killing each other with private armies it's just a team of multicorporations neutralizing a single corporate threat senpai, the same way how they can temporarily form a joint military agreement to repel outside invasion forces in the event of war. Not to mention that citizens will have guns as well, and do rogue urban guerrilla tactics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075319 127601780,127618839,2017-05-29 16:29:03,">>127618080 Marxists are going to take a ride in a helicopter. Though I do understand the appeal of protectionism. Free trade works under the following conditions: >the economic and political situations are similar in both countries >the countries are not antagonistic If these are not satisfied, then free trade between the countries would be straight-up weird.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496075343 127601780,127618865,2017-05-29 16:29:15,">>127618321 you want to tell American workers ; >""no, you cannot take a job at that wage. Only illegals can get those jobs."" You must end the minimum wage, it is exploitation to deny American citizens work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075355 127601780,127618953,2017-05-29 16:29:52,">>127618538 Not going to happen. I don't take orders from a Swedecuck.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496075392 127601780,127619232,2017-05-29 16:31:49,">>127618488 >Anyone who accepts a coercive authority over himself is a cuck. yet ancaps worship corporate authority >Corporations are created through the state, so they would be quite short-lived in an ancap society, when people stop buying their products out of sheer spite It's like you never heard of monopolies before >Then the people and their properties are going to be protected by themselves and any private defense contractors that are paid by them. so in the case of a foreign invasion only the rich in their armed gated communities are protected, while the working class if forced to defend themselves with shotguns and revolvers. Some nice system you got there. >Also, not all nations like to import muslims, just so you know. Yeah Africans and Spics are liked by others",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075509 127601780,127619382,2017-05-29 16:32:48,">>127618542 >It's going to be a world war of mega-corporations, with civvies forcefully recruited into service what do you not understand about voluntary agreement? nobody is going to be forcefully recruited, and there WON'T be one corporation because that's what they're all against. You're thinking of a government ffs >or an alliance of corporations? what's wrong with an alliance of competing corporations? nothing. literally nothing. the idea and concept of competing corporations is so alien to most people after being drilled in their head that: ""government = good, corporations = bad"" that they don't even see that a corporation can't force you to do shit -- that's what government does! >You actually believe any single person would be allowed to own a factory, a piece of land, a grocery store or a website in a world ruled by mega-corporations that are instrinctly programmed to maximizing their profits? yes, because it's private ownership is profitable. I thought you jews knew this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075568 127601780,127619407,2017-05-29 16:33:00,">>127618265 Point to the post where I complain about the existence of a state. >inb4 all of /lrg/ is anarchist In any case: >You have a house because you make it more trouble than it's worth to steal it You can choose to call this a principle, or simply call it human activity. Either way, it is an economic reality that people do not let robbers into their houses, regardless of any arguments about rights to other people's property or lackthereof.",,Anonymous,Minarchist Snek.png,cZK6lSxVmNeZdi8OkUuIEA==,US,,1496075580 127601780,127619494,2017-05-29 16:33:33,">>127617044 >provided they can purchase the land, enforce its ownership by building on it, and then sustaining ownership of the land which costs time and resources that can't be done on a whim Truly. But all arable land will still be held unless YOU in our scenario are willing to orchestrate a violent takeover. Your objection only shows that the ownership of arable land is infinitely more likely to belong to LARGE, VIOLENT, ORGANIZATIONS. > they can acquire capital based on a contractual job that outlines the nature and duty of the job, obligations, and what they are expected/not expected to do. It's not a ""dependent position"", it's mutual agreement for mutual gain, otherwise they don't work for them and they lose employees. It is in your contractual job that you face our dilemma, it's a case of 'suck a little dick to get ahead'. >nigger-tier logic that calls for violence when things can be resolved peacefully through negotiation You cannot negotiate from your position. In order to negotiate you must have an option.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496075613 127601780,127619708,2017-05-29 16:35:04,">>127618781 >there's so realistic incentive for mass muslim migration if there's no gibs I dont remember welfare and gibs during all the Muslim invasions of Europe. >and you will do the same so that big nanny gov not get hurt, fucking turbocuck At least you accept that you put capitalism over all, even your own people >it's just a team of multicorporations neutralizing a single corporate threat senpai, the same way how they can temporarily form a joint military agreement to repel outside invasion forces in the event of war. Not to mention that citizens will have guns as well, and do rogue urban guerrilla tactics >corporations killing each other >citizens forced into urban guerilla warfare This is your country on libertarianism everyone, what a fucking shithole",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075704 127601780,127620016,2017-05-29 16:37:07,">>127618865 I never said anything about minimum wage. I am talking about labour laws and benefits",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075827 127601780,127620216,2017-05-29 16:38:20,">>127619232 No, we do not worship corporate authority. We have sovereignity over our bodies and property, and beyond that, it's up to us how we treat others - led by the NAP unless there's conflict. We also take care of our own, and we hate Afros and beaners too, so stop projecting your liberalism and tolerance unto those who actually struggled to keep existing.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496075900 127601780,127620239,2017-05-29 16:38:28,">>127619382 >believes corporations can form private armies and alliances >somehow they cant force you to do what they want",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075908 127601780,127620394,2017-05-29 16:39:32,">>127619407 >it is an economic reality that people do not let robbers into their houses Sometimes people are robbed. Call it taxes or call it crime.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496075972 127601780,127620398,2017-05-29 16:39:34,">>127620216 >We have sovereignity over our bodies and property, >Its cool if there is muslims and niggers all over my country as long as they are not my lawn",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496075974 127601780,127620524,2017-05-29 16:40:28,">>127620016 None of which has to do with a state enforced closed borders policy derived from Libertarian property ethics. That's what the image was about, that's what Murray Rothbard was talking about. Open borders is an assault on private property. That's that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496076028 127601780,127620596,2017-05-29 16:40:57,">>127619494 >But all arable land will still be held unless YOU in our scenario are willing to orchestrate a violent takeover. Your objection only shows that the ownership of arable land is infinitely more likely to belong to LARGE, VIOLENT, ORGANIZATIONS. nigger why do you keep implying they will be violent? violent organizations will be neutralized with violence first and foremost. That's the point of anarchy. After anarchy, peaceful negotiation and mutual agreement by contract is then the norm to build things stop autistically screeching whenever someone else has property they worked for, purchased, and built. They're not oppressing you, they're not exploiting you, they bought it fair and square >It is in your contractual job that you face our dilemma what? >You cannot negotiate from your position. In order to negotiate you must have an option. and people ALWAYS have options. >>127619708 >I dont remember welfare and gibs during all the Muslim invasions of Europe. the muslims invasions were violent, so they will be met with violence in self-defense. We'll kill them all in that case >At least you accept that you put capitalism over all, even your own people I put capitalism above a state that feeds and propagates degeneracy >This is your country on libertarianism everyone, what a fucking shithole the scenario only happens when a corporation intends to establish a STATE or a STATE acts as an outside invasion force. idiot. >>127620239 >one corporation acts violent and forceful out of contract >other corporations are now obliged and are justified in killing it to keep the peace for everyone else, especially themselves and their workers nice try",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496076057 127601780,127620726,2017-05-29 16:41:50,">>127620398 >niggers and muslims I'm not worried about Slovaks letting them in. Because they won't. Like I said, quit pretending everywhere is a fucking melting pot.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496076110 127601780,127620998,2017-05-29 16:43:40,">>127619382 >what do you not understand about voluntary agreement There is no need to get an agreement when you can force someone to do it and there is no government to protect the social construct called ""rights"" >there WON'T be one corporation because that's what they're all against Because mergers never happen, and corporations don't ever take over small companies threatening their monopolies. >they don't even see that a corporation can't force you to do shit -- that's what government does! Anyone with power can force you to do anything in the constraint their power allows. In a government-less world, corporations will have much more power than today's governments. How can anyone above elementary school not understand this? >because it's private ownership is profitable Private ownership is profitable to society overall, yes, but it's not specifically profitable to the ones you compete against. In a truly free market, if you can shut down the competition, you do it. Ironically for you, it's ONLY the government that facilitates private ownership, market competition and free trade.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496076220 127601780,127621206,2017-05-29 16:44:50,>>127619407,,Anonymous,1492668032769.jpg,aBp2vRYtbl4lJfW/1d7g4A==,US,,1496076290 127601780,127621674,2017-05-29 16:47:40,">>127620524 >Open borders is an assault on private property. That's that. So then have a state to enforce immigration, not just some hillbilly with a shotgun saying ""not on muh property"" >inb4 corporations come and save the day with a private border patrol >the muslims invasions were violent, so they will be met with violence in self-defense. We'll kill them all in that case You are going to need an army for that bruh, not some rag tag militias of fedora anacaps and hillbillies with shotguns >I put capitalism above a state that feeds and propagates degeneracy >capitalism >not propagating degeneracy are you serious? >the scenario only happens when a corporation intends to establish a STATE or a STATE acts as an outside invasion force. So like all the time then >other corporations are now obliged and are justified in killing it to keep the peace for everyone else, especially themselves and their workers no but who is going to stop them if they decide to do that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496076460 127601780,127621812,2017-05-29 16:48:30,">>127620596 >nigger why do you keep implying they will be violent? violent organizations will be neutralized with violence first and foremost. That's the point of anarchy. After anarchy, peaceful negotiation and mutual agreement by contract is then the norm to build things >stop autistically screeching whenever someone else has property they worked for, purchased, and built. They're not oppressing you, they're not exploiting you, they bought it fair and square Why does violence occur? Because society is a class of self-interested operators whose interests conflict. Institutions like deals, corporations and other organisations form because the violence is strictly not worth it in the economic sense. You want to remove these perfectly naturally occuring institutions and you expect there won't be violence. That's pretty dumb, and it can only work if everyone in ancap-town is a subservient cocksucker.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496076510 127601780,127621829,2017-05-29 16:48:37,">>127620394 The argument ""taxation is theft"" is a whole other issue, but for the most part, people pay taxes for benefits: security, emergency services, etc. The argument of whether people should be forced to pay for centralized versions of goods that can be privatized (e.g. education) is completely separate. The point is, taxes are payment for a benefit. If you don't consent, you can leave to another country. Any money (or other property) that a robber takes does not get compensated with any kind of benefit, hence no robbery is consensual. The only way to express this non-consent is to re-affirm your property rights by whatever means necessary (this is called castle doctrine). >>127621206 That's a nice little slippery slope fallacy you've got there.",,Anonymous,naga aggression principle.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,US,,1496076517 127601780,127622022,2017-05-29 16:49:51,">>127620726 Ok so an open borders stateless society might work in some shithole in eastern Europe, can we top pretending that wont work in the West and the rest of the first world?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496076591 127601780,127622095,2017-05-29 16:50:18,">pretend to be anarcho-capitalist >actually a stirnerite egoist",,Anonymous,814206047_2019824.gif,7Eb9cehKvfmRm6YfkLPgkA==,US,,1496076618 127601780,127622369,2017-05-29 16:51:54,">>127620596 Understand that a cost-benefit analysis is just as applicable to violence as they are to, for example, a purchase. And they ARE applied that way.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496076714 127601780,127622424,2017-05-29 16:52:24,">>127622022 Well if your people are culturally suicidal, then they deserve tyranny and death. Also, being called a ""shithole"" is the price we pay for no muzzies, very few Jews, a low crime rate and good health.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496076744 127601780,127622560,2017-05-29 16:53:18,">>127621674 I am advocating the state enforces a closed borders policy from Libertarian ethics. I keep telling you this, but you keep defaulting to believing I am in favor of open borders. Why?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496076798 127601780,127622907,2017-05-29 16:55:32,">>127620998 >There is no need to get an agreement when you can force someone to do it >there is no government to protect the social construct called ""rights the people protect their own rights, kike. If someone is violent, they gang up against it. This is not a difficult concept to understand, and it does not need a state to function >Because mergers never happen, and corporations don't ever take over small companies threatening their monopolies. why would corporations merge for the sake of it? They don't want to share power, they want it for themselves, and that's precisely the kind of competitive spirit that keeps the balance of power in check. this idea of corporations merging for no reason is as unreasonable to assume as all the nations of the world merging together to oppress everybody. We don't live a single-state world for a reason, because that doesn't make sense. Nobody but commies can swallow that garbage >Anyone with power can force you to do anything in the constraint their power allows. uh, not if they're violent >corporations will have much more power than today's governments. yeah and what are they going to do about it? force me to buy shitty products? You have the freedom to reject. That's the basic idea: the idea is that people will never be forced to do anything and have absolute freedom You don't need a parent or state to baby you once you're an adult. How can anyone above elementary school not understand this? >if you can shut down the competition, you do it. HMMMM and how they shut down competition? that's right. Government regulations! >Ironically for you, it's ONLY the government that facilitates private ownership, market competition and free trade. nigger the gov restricts private ownership, market competition, and free trade. Government has public ownership of things, market control mechanisms, and centrally planned economies You're smarter than this, chiam",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496076932 127601780,127622930,2017-05-29 16:55:39,">>127620726 Because Slovakia is a diarrhea-tier shitty slavic 2.5nd world country, perhaps abolishing borders will leave it as rapefugee less as before, but it's just not the case for the rest of the world. Hell, even we had an influx of 250,000 HIV infested Africans right until we built a fence on the entire Egypt border.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496076939 127601780,127623184,2017-05-29 16:57:17,">>127621829 Who cares what ""should"" happen. If you hold property and you cannot put up enough of a value to dissuade violent takeover. Then you will lose it. It makes no sense to talk about property as a natural right, because the person that has no property will never respect that right, nor should he.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496077037 127601780,127623626,2017-05-29 16:59:52,">>127613919 I did. he's firing you, but offering you your job back if you suck dick ignore the ""suck dick"" part. he fired you. he has a right to. go find another job. this is an ancap world, and there's going to be way more productive economic activity. if you aren't needed at the gay guy's company, you SHOULD be doing something else because it's more useful",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077192 127601780,127623805,2017-05-29 17:00:54,">>127621674 >You are going to need an army for that bruh, not some rag tag militias of fedora anacaps and hillbillies with shotguns private armies, nigger >are you serious? Yes. How do degenerates survive? welfare, social safety nets, affirmative action, all sorts of bullshit >So like all the time then nope >no but who is going to stop them if they decide to do that? I just told you, the people and other corporations >>127621812 >Because society is a class of self-interested operators whose interests conflict >my interest conflict! >I will now use force like a fucking animal instead of working, negotiating, and making deals! That's pretty dumb, and I mean pure nigger-logic at its finest, and can only work if everyone in your braindead fantasyland is a subservient somalian. OH WAIT, I'm talking with a Swede",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077254 127601780,127624124,2017-05-29 17:02:57,">>127622369 >justifying violence outside self-defense >in any way rational or can be ""analyzed"" you mean nigger logic right? hurr, let me just take your shit, I made a cost-benefit analysis that says me not having shit is not preferable compared to me having your shit fuck's sake mate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077377 127601780,127624139,2017-05-29 17:03:03,">>127616024 Couldn't Google not make us slaves now without an army and despite the government?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496077383 127601780,127624148,2017-05-29 17:03:08,">>127623626 Doesn't matter. If you remove the possibility of violent backlash, you incentivize maximum exploitation. But you CAN'T remove it.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496077388 127601780,127624199,2017-05-29 17:03:26,">>127613493 China's ""famine"" was man-made, there was no weather or disease that killed harvests.",,Anonymous,communismfood.jpg,P1HIFNxWyJ77RhHXDAsq3g==,US,,1496077406 127601780,127624339,2017-05-29 17:04:31,">>127622930 You're right. And we wouldn't want it any other way. In fact, I bet we're worse than the Balkans. Indeed, they do actually have a sizable Muslim population. The only Muslim thing about Slovakia are the kebab stands.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496077471 127601780,127624493,2017-05-29 17:05:34,">>127624148 >""wtf i'm being exploited i must now bash the fash"" this is your mind on Swedish education Just say ""no"" and go somewhere else you ape, the only person exploiting you is yourself for being so retarded",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077534 127601780,127624543,2017-05-29 17:05:56,">>127602713 But what if all property were owned by trendy silicone Valley cucks that want open borders on your town?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077556 127601780,127624613,2017-05-29 17:06:27,">>127623805 >>127624124 You should use violence against people who hold things that you need to survive. But more importantly, you WILL use violence against them. Besides now you're just saying nigger and repeating yourself.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496077587 127601780,127624625,2017-05-29 17:06:31,">>127615029 while I am ultimately for the complete abolition of the state, it is a good first step to devolve power to smaller areas. and while I think free market economics is the best system, I am in favor of any mechanism that puts pressure on people or groups to improve. having power decentralized into many small states in many ways is like a free market economy. there is a system where good results are rewarded and bad results are punished via ""voting with your feet"" it would be even better if power was decentralized all the way to the individual. but local government is better than national or global government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077591 127601780,127624793,2017-05-29 17:07:54,">>127624493 >""wtf I'm being exploited, I'm just gonna take it like a little bitch"" This is your ideology. It's an ideology of just taking it like a pussy.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496077674 127601780,127624894,2017-05-29 17:08:35,"I just got a ancap flag. What now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077715 127601780,127624943,2017-05-29 17:09:00,">>127623184 >it makes no sense to talk about property as a natural right because some people don't respect it It makes no sense to talk about life as a natural right, because murderers will never respect that right, nor should they. Your logic is, frankly, childish. To say one man may choose not to respect the property rights of others is to say any man may choose to believe the same. And if you have a society like this, where nobody acknowledges each other's property rights, then the members of that society take action to defend their own property from all the others (to do otherwise would be irrational and against one's own interests). The property rights arise, not because all individuals respect or recognize the rights of others, but because they do everything they can to encourage (read as: violently force) others to respect their property rights.",,Anonymous,watch it.jpg,pvN2tYZwpryd0yiz/wNu/w==,US,,1496077740 127601780,127625348,2017-05-29 17:12:10,">>127602841 Thank you for your service",,Anonymous,01d2c16437b34cbf11979253cce2e10a.jpg,00fMLAJOAZJ8cc5zBp4gjw==,US,,1496077930 127601780,127625351,2017-05-29 17:12:11,">>127624613 >You should use violence against people who hold things that you need to survive So if I'm thirsty and a guy next to me has water, I'm free to mug him instead of giving him some pocket change for it? absolutely retarded. I'll call you a nigger as much you keep acting and thinking like one, nigger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077931 127601780,127625371,2017-05-29 17:12:21,">>127624148 if you can go work someplace where the ""exploitation"" is less than where you are now, go there. better workplaces attract more and better workers. create maximum economic freedom in order to create as many employers as possible. the more employers there are, the better the employees will be treated it doesn't work to write a law that says ""don't exploit"" it works much better to create conditions where employers cannot get away with exploiting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077941 127601780,127625386,2017-05-29 17:12:31,">>127624943 Indeed it makes no sense to talk about life as a natural right in the context of an ideology that wants to remove the institutions that protect that right. The right to life and property are LEGAL rights, enforced by the state- and legal-institutions.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496077951 127601780,127625440,2017-05-29 17:12:58,">>127601780 Hayek ought to be (((Hayek))) too",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1496077978 127601780,127625448,2017-05-29 17:13:02,">>127606631 I don't really condone drug use but I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. You aren't harming anyone else. You're an adult who can make your own shitty decisions",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496077982 127601780,127625454,2017-05-29 17:13:04,,,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1496077984 127601780,127625526,2017-05-29 17:13:38,">>127624793 no, that's YOUR ideology by having a state to make everyone else bitches Nobody is forced to take it like a pussy if they don't want to, that's the central core tenet that your feeble swedish mind cannot comprehend due your insatiable cocklust",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078018 127601780,127625596,2017-05-29 17:13:59,">>127622907 >the people protect their own rights, kike. If someone is violent, they gang up against it. ""Ganging up"" is a nice ghetto slang, but what it really means is that a group of people decide to enstablish a professional body of defence. They all need to commit to contribute to that body. It's called: army, police, taxes and government. Unless you think that a few morons with shotguns can protect their land from trained armies with a budget in high billions. >They don't want to share power, they want it for themselves, and that's precisely the kind of competitive spirit that keeps the balance of power in check. You awfully mix up profit and competition. Mergers and buyouts maximize profits and enhence monopolies, they are the exact opposite of competition. This is why anti-trust laws are in place to protect competition. No anti-trust laws? No competition at all in a very, very short time. >Anyone with power can force you to do anything in the constraint their power allows. A tard with downs syndrome can be very violent, that doesn't mean he can take down an M1 Abrams, you dimwit. >yeah and what are they going to do about it? force me to buy shitty products? You have the freedom to reject. No, you don't. Freedom doesn't exist, you only feel free because the government curbs all sorts of bad people that would very much like to make you do stuff you don't want. In an ancap world, they have the power to make you do anything they want, and they will make you do whatever maximizes their profit. >Government has public ownership of things, market control mechanisms, and centrally planned economies Governments have no business to do production and to own companies, but otherwise government's control of market dynamics is the only thing that facilitates the free market. Though through the use of lobbyists, corporations are now able to defeat many anti-trust barriers and are growing to a point of eventual singularity.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496078039 127601780,127625626,2017-05-29 17:14:13,">>127604118 I've heard anons would be harrassed by nurses ""how could you do this?! Ure EBIL!""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078053 127601780,127625669,2017-05-29 17:14:28,">>127625454 yep, that's what we believe. it works much better than the system you propose.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078068 127601780,127625826,2017-05-29 17:15:39,">>127606631 Is alcohol OK?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078139 127601780,127625854,2017-05-29 17:15:50,">>127625454 In the first case has legal consequences to refuse, in my country jail, the second in my country has no consequence to refuse. That´s just the difference, But hey, if you like to pay taxes come to Spain and enjoy my socialist paradise where half of my salary is left the state and prices are hyperinflated by taxes. You´re wellcome! :D",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1496078150 127601780,127625920,2017-05-29 17:16:21,">>127625351 And if he refuses your pocket change? I'm just saying that people will inherently do what is necessary. >>127625371 I don't directly disagree with what you are saying here. I'm saying that the NAP is superfluous and that violence is a part of the economy whether you like it or not.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496078181 127601780,127626082,2017-05-29 17:17:32,">>127625626 Never heard of that, but it is your common response from normal people if you say you won't donor your organs.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1496078252 127601780,127626178,2017-05-29 17:18:06,">>127625526 So.. admit that the NAP is bullshit and violence is a legitimate economic move.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496078286 127601780,127626267,2017-05-29 17:18:47,">>127610546 This is a remarkably convincing argument",,Anonymous,lennon mad.jpg,6Uok9LMd55uwako72KDn4A==,FI,,1496078327 127601780,127626298,2017-05-29 17:19:02,">>127625596 Anti-trust laws have the real effect of preventing newcomers into the marketplace and reducing efficiency.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078342 127601780,127626524,2017-05-29 17:20:43,">>127626082 It's assumed that they are only harvested during definite death. Even though there have been many close calls where people wake up in the morgue or hours later after being declared dead. Also, take it as you will, Alex jones has talked about how his dad (a doctor) has seen people purposely allowed to die at hospitals so that their organs may be harvested. Fucking horrible shit, m8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078443 127601780,127626575,2017-05-29 17:21:07,">>127624894 Why? Did you at least get a cool snek ancap flag?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078467 127601780,127626693,2017-05-29 17:22:08,">>127625386 Citing the law now, huh? You're the only legalist Stirnerite I've ever heard of. In any case, minarchism does not seek to remove the institutions to protect that right, but I'll argue against your legalist stance anyway, since it's wrong. Lemme paraphrase Frédéric Bastiat here. You exist, therefore you develop personality (I prefer the word personhood here, but the meaning's the same). You have faculties, with which you secure liberty. You have the ability to assimilate the world around you, and what is assimilated becomes your property. These three things, existence, faculties, and assimilation, are inherent to you. Bastiat chose to say they were God-given gifts, but the point is that they arise from nature, and, logically, so do their products (personhood, liberty, and property). It is not because man makes laws that these rights (to personality, liberty, and property) exist, but the reverse: man creates laws as a result of these rights, as an extension of his faculties to secure his liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078528 127601780,127626823,2017-05-29 17:23:09,">>127610546 If you live in this imaginary, no more than 1,000 people town its your fault to run that risk, it's not like 70% of towns that small aren't self employed already in one way or another. Just fucking move to a bigger town and find employment elsewhere, nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078589 127601780,127626879,2017-05-29 17:23:35,"Book club just starting, discord /7TwUKQ",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-no-crime-to-be-ignorant-of-economics-which-is-after-all-a-specialized-discipline-and-one-murray-rothbard-263126.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,US,,1496078615 127601780,127627160,2017-05-29 17:25:39,">>127614474 >the right to violent resistance You do realize that's a self-destructing right?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1496078739 127601780,127627186,2017-05-29 17:25:53,">>127625596 >Unless you think that a few morons with shotguns can protect their land from trained armies with a budget in high billions. there will be privately trained armies with budgets also in the high billions, chaim >Mergers and buyouts maximize profits and enhence monopolies this isn't an absolute, merging for no reason does not maximize profit if you're just creating a bigger internal system with more people and more resources to manage. You're massively increasing overhead costs and management conflicts, which is why businesses don't just merge willy nilly you dunce >This is why anti-trust laws are in place to protect competition. Yes, laws that tell businesses how to run themselves sure is competitive. You do realize that the big businesses have no problems with these laws right? They have armies of lawyers and government connections to go around them and find loophole after loophole. Anti-trust laws are only anti-trust in paper It's the small businesses that are hurt from these laws, because it means they now have more bullshit to file and monitor themselves over >A tard with downs syndrome can be very violent, that doesn't mean he can take down an M1 Abrams, you dimwit. This is why people have their own private M1 Abrams :^) >Freedom doesn't exist how spooky, please tell me more mr. stirner > you only feel free because the government curbs all sorts of bad people that would very much like to make you do stuff you don't want. In an ancap world, they have the power to make you do anything they want, and they will make you do whatever maximizes their profit. oh yes big gov thank you for magically keeping me free as long as I don't question it hmmm what's this? the politicians have absolute power? don't worry goy, at least they're not profiting from it. Pay no attention to hordes of tax money these angelic politicians have at their disposal, they're here to serve you! And that means buying mansions and limos! don't like it? deal with it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078753 127601780,127627335,2017-05-29 17:27:02,">>127625920 >And if he refuses your pocket change? I find someone else, or ideally locate a vending machine >I'm just saying that people will inherently do what is necessary. No, you're saying that niggers acting violently is justifiable pro tip: it's not. You're just acting like a nigger too stupid to make proper rational choices",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078822 127601780,127627438,2017-05-29 17:27:53,">>127626524 >has seen people purposely allowed to die at hospitals so that their organs may be harvested. I could imagine that things like that happen, if some important politician needs new stuff. The thing is they declare you braindead keep you alive until the harvesters arrive and then they send your organs even across borders through the EU at least. I also doubt if you especially request that you won't donate, that they still take them, i.e. you have no relatives and you die alone in a hospital after a motorcycle accident.",,Anonymous,shootupsome niggas.jpg,XJy8X8fgXLAxmiUvgWnlTQ==,AT,,1496078873 127601780,127627553,2017-05-29 17:28:50,">>127626178 No. Because violence is only a legitimate in self-defense, nothing less, nothing more. Unprovoked aggression is unprovoked aggression, and your violence will be met with consequence, preferably by complimentary helicopter ride stop thinking like a nigger if things aren't immediately in your favor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078930 127601780,127627652,2017-05-29 17:29:40,">>127627438 I can easily see some ""oops. Sorry"" type of malpractice going on, specially since 90%+ gets gutted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496078980 127601780,127627657,2017-05-29 17:29:40,">>127626693 I'm not trying to take a legalist stance. I'm trying to show you that the basis for property and other rights, is violence. That's the true god-given right from which all others are derived. Man naturally aquires property for the purpose of his liberty and happiness, and he makes laws to protect it. Do not blame him for doing this violently, give him a preferable option.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496078980 127601780,127627799,2017-05-29 17:30:50,">>127627553 Universally preferable behavior as a philosophy, then NAP in practice is how I see it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496079050 127601780,127627982,2017-05-29 17:32:17,">>127627160 I don't, I see how there are often better options than violence.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496079137 127601780,127628444,2017-05-29 17:36:01,">>127627657 So, what are you arguing against? You agree that there is a right to one's own property, derived from a God-given faculty (violence). He therefore makes laws to secure these rights, again using his God-given faculty of violent self-defense. You, my friend, are a fellow minarchist.",,Anonymous,Minarchist flag.png,BVgPKC4F2PT3w3hzq4OdmQ==,US,,1496079361 127601780,127628737,2017-05-29 17:38:23,">>127627553 >property in the form of natural resources >""naturally"" falls into jewish hands >I accept it because muh NAP Why? If you have the coercive power to take property and use it for better aims, JUST DO IT. Don't get caught up in jewish ratinalizations for domination, it's mind control. >>127627799 ""Universally preferable behaviour is forfeiting resources to international jewry"" You cuck-retard why would that be better than ethnic self-governance over the resources? Or ANYTHING?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496079503 127601780,127628903,2017-05-29 17:39:39,>>127628737,,Anonymous,thats_not_an_argumetn_at_all.png,B/JeaVNXkBDDzzQ34oyMLw==,US,,1496079579 127601780,127629165,2017-05-29 17:41:44,">>127628444 You, my friend, are confused. Minarchists believe in enforcing arbitrary property rights which are mostly already held by lizard-men. I believe in using your full potential to relieve the unworthy parasites of their property and give it to those who add value. The restriction of violence skews the free-market, I say DEREGULATE.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496079704 127601780,127629273,2017-05-29 17:42:35,">>127628737 >Why? If you have the coercive power to take property and use it for better aims, JUST DO IT. Don't get caught up in jewish ratinalizations for domination, it's mind control. don't you get it? If you use violence to obtain property, other people can do the same onto YOU and then you will neither have liberty nor property. In fact, nobody will, except for whoever carries the biggest stick. You are essentially begging to be oppressed in this way in the long-term, at the cost of a temporary short-term gain. Violence is short-sighted, reckless, and ultimately self-destructive at its core. It's not jewish rationalizations. You outjew the jew, and beat them at their own game. If you can't, well, you're probably a nigger and won't do much with property anyways",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496079755 127601780,127629331,2017-05-29 17:43:09,">>127601830 >supporting either palestine or israel Why not nuke em both?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1496079789 127601780,127629623,2017-05-29 17:45:45,">>127629331 I personally favor this option.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496079945 127601780,127629630,2017-05-29 17:45:47,">>127627982 If everyone has a maxim that accepts violent behavior in case of unreasonable demands, there ceases to be anything to resist since by definition resisting is an action taken against people who are not consenting",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1496079947 127601780,127629673,2017-05-29 17:46:10,">>127629165 >You should steal other people's property because I don't like them >And give it to people I like >Also lizard-men Ah, my mistake, you're a Stirnerite anarcho-national socialist.",,Anonymous,Fuck Stirnerites.png,4u187YnwJGMv21zqPdBIzw==,US,,1496079970 127601780,127629923,2017-05-29 17:48:04,">>127629273 As a sidenote: Jews are monied because they are deceitful and cunning and they have instated a system that favors these values. I'm not so sure that the previous rule of warrior kings valuing honor and loyalty was a worse deal. I only say that violent takeover should sometimes occurr. When? When the value of allowing the property to be managed by it's current owner exceeds the value of taking it. This ensures optimal management of resources doesn't it?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496080084 127601780,127630567,2017-05-29 17:53:47,">>127629923 >they have instated a system that favors these values yes, big government and marxism are well documented jewish tricks >When the value of allowing the property to be managed by it's current owner exceeds the value of taking it. and who determines this? who decides? everyone can just declare that it's justified *for them only*, and then you would have violence everywhere. If not, then you have an institution that is a monopoly of violence, a state, and they will use violence to keep themselves in power at the cost everyone else against their own individual self-interest. Congratulations, you've played yourself >This ensures optimal management of resources doesn't it? no, it doesn't. Just needless, pointless, reckless bloodshed because people's feelings were hurt and they *feel* exploited, instead of working and getting ahead in life",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496080427 127601780,127631045,2017-05-29 17:57:50,">>127629630 Note that I am arguing with people who don't accept 'rights' as conventional, rather natural. But I can modify to simply 'the right to resistance' or 'the right to violence'. >>127629673 I'm saying current property rights are arbitrary and they should be reorganized in accordance with higher values. Why serve the interests of the elite by accepting the status quo?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496080670 127601780,127631325,2017-05-29 18:00:22,">>127630567 >and who determines this? who decides? I mean who determines when to buy and when to sell? The person that makes bad value judgements in war or trade will be eliminated from the playing field. It's completely analogous to a conventional free-market, without the arbitrary restriction of violence",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496080822 127601780,127631569,2017-05-29 18:02:11,">>127631325 >The person that makes bad value judgements in war or trade will be eliminated from the playing field. the difference here is that someone who makes a single bad deal doesn't cost them their life, sven",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496080931 127601780,127631904,2017-05-29 18:04:58,">>127631045 They are no more arbitrary than the laws of nature which have made them, much less these ""higher values"" you talk up but fail to justify. Now explain to me how shooting people for taking my stuff serves the interests of the elite.",,Anonymous,Recreational Nukem.png,DvoV9/FztdxLjL3NFG0npA==,US,,1496081098 127601780,127632109,2017-05-29 18:06:45,">>127631569 It's not mandatory to make deals like that. And if you do, I imagine you'd have very good reason too. Nevertheless this kind of deal IS available to everyone.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496081205 127601780,127632207,2017-05-29 18:07:31,">>127601780 I love the constant purity tests and fighting between Libertarians, it really helps the Neocons and Dems stomp over us.",,Anonymous,Capture2.png,6imVnD0vqjHIg1JDT8Z2og==,US,,1496081251 127601780,127632367,2017-05-29 18:08:45,">>127618152 >airborne oven kek fucking saved",,Anonymous,1367114501090.png,Q/ZfR14RjyNdk2YduhsIXg==,US,,1496081325 127601780,127632443,2017-05-29 18:09:20,">>127631045 Aggressive violence is the same thing: it by nature is nonconsensual",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1496081360 127601780,127632524,2017-05-29 18:09:50,">>127631904 >Now explain to me how shooting people for taking my stuff serves the interests of the elite. By placing a moral restriction on return-fire.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496081390 127601780,127632622,2017-05-29 18:10:32,">>127632109 >Nevertheless this kind of deal IS available to everyone so you admit that by permitting the use of violence to everyone outside self-defense, they are free to cause as much as chaos as they feel (key word here) like as necessary? if people can get free stuff by violence, why wouldn't they constantly loot and pillage each other? full blown nigger state. Goddamn it, sven",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496081432 127601780,127632713,2017-05-29 18:11:09,"I've always been very centrist in terms of my economics but always heavily social conservative and right wing in that sense. I kind of saw both communism and capitalism as Jewish tools to control society since capitalism to me always seemed to reward people who were able to exploit people the most. I'm I just thinking about this the wrong way or what? I'm definitely for private property, private businesses, gun ownership et cetera. Maybe I'm just mistaken about Libertariansim idk.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496081469 127601780,127632720,2017-05-29 18:11:12,">>127632524 You have a right to defense in all situations. There is no moral restriction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496081472 127601780,127632807,2017-05-29 18:11:50,">>127632443 The holding of property is not always consensual. That's a simple fact, doesn't matter how I think it ought to be.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496081510 127601780,127632816,2017-05-29 18:11:54,">>127614888 >14888 WHAT DID KEK MEAN BY THIS????? CHAOS GOD IS CHAOTIC",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496081514 127601780,127632950,2017-05-29 18:12:57,">>127632816 14 words 888 Hans-Hermann Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496081577 127601780,127633123,2017-05-29 18:14:25,">>127632622 >they are free to cause as much as chaos as they feel (key word here) like as necessary? They are free to cause as much chaos as is in their self-interest, which is none. >if people can get free stuff by violence, why wouldn't they constantly loot and pillage each other? Because by and large they can't get free stuff by violence. Are you beginning to understand what I'm saying? >>127632720 I agree.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496081665 127601780,127633189,2017-05-29 18:14:52,">>127632524 >Passing castle doctrine and stand-your-ground laws to permit return-fire against a thief or attacker morally restricts return-fire",,Anonymous,no argument.png,MiLJRLsOVNZVyb+QT9eJzQ==,US,,1496081692 127601780,127633242,2017-05-29 18:15:20,">>127632713 it seems like your heart is already in the right place, and you've got good intuition about what's really going on behind the scenes I personally highly recommend you read Anatomy of the State by Murray Rothbard, it will help clarify your attitude towards the state and maybe give you a new perspective on PALEOlibertaranism instead of the cucked version most people are familiar with it's literally only 60 pages too, shouldn't take long https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state",,Anonymous,Anatomy of the State.jpg,Lw+bQoK4o77kehdqxC3ipA==,US,,1496081720 127601780,127633364,2017-05-29 18:16:16,">>127633189 >laws",,Anonymous,stirn.jpg,dYsORZI/N+7LcSFs9wGg+g==,SE,,1496081776 127601780,127633455,2017-05-29 18:16:55,">>127633242 ty famalam",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496081815 127601780,127633557,2017-05-29 18:17:37,">>127633123 >They are free to cause as much chaos as is in their self-interest, which is none. ah but like you said they are exploited? cocksuckers, right? eat your own words. You advocate violence and nigger behavior >Because by and large they can't get free stuff by violence. yes they can, like you said they are supposedly right to use violence for property and other gibs >Are you beginning to understand what I'm saying? I've understood that you're a nigger who believes in aggressive violence since your first few posts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496081857 127601780,127633728,2017-05-29 18:19:00,">>127632807 There really isn't any consistent way of ""human ownership"" except for everyone owning his own body. Other options lead to contradictions and madness (we can't all own each other). We're talking about aggressing against the unreasonable's body, right?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1496081940 127601780,127633933,2017-05-29 18:20:26,">>127633242 You can spot ""true"" Libertarians since they always post a mises link.",,Anonymous,1413521324135.jpg,FDo1T8YQwwJUJr4rQCpTjQ==,US,,1496082026 127601780,127633955,2017-05-29 18:20:33,">>127633364 >implying laws are a spook >>127625386 >implying the existence of rights due to the existence of laws Pick one.",,Anonymous,NAP violation.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,US,,1496082033 127601780,127634137,2017-05-29 18:21:59,">>127633557 If you sit on a copper deposit, having no knowledge of how to use it, and no army to defend it. Then you should be hung from a tree by angry geologists. If you manage your property well, you can dissuade violent takeover by providing value to the would-be takeoverers.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496082119 127601780,127634624,2017-05-29 18:25:53,">>127633955 You are shifting the goalposts from moral to legal. I had said nothing about a legal right to return-fire. Rephrase your argument or I don't know what to tell you.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496082353 127601780,127634676,2017-05-29 18:26:17,">>127634137 Fuck Geologists that land from the heaven above to hell below is mine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496082377 127601780,127634842,2017-05-29 18:27:48,">>127633955 Is this 'principal' some sort of meme or does everyone just mistype it?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1496082468 127601780,127634998,2017-05-29 18:28:58,">>127633455 np my dude, let us know how it works out for you. happy reading",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496082538 127601780,127635005,2017-05-29 18:29:01,"Would Libertarians accept a democracy only allowing landowners to vote. Also something like Dictatorship, not totalitarian but national decisions are up to them or is this a violation of Libertarian beliefs?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496082541 127601780,127635058,2017-05-29 18:29:26,">>127634676 Impotent rage. Note that, by construction, you cannot defend your land in this case.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496082566 127601780,127635068,2017-05-29 18:29:32,">>127633933 w-whats wrong with mises",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496082572 127601780,127635319,2017-05-29 18:31:22,">>127633728 I don't think we should talk about ""human ownership"" in terms other than practical. You own what you can maintain control over and profit from. Something like that.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496082682 127601780,127635371,2017-05-29 18:31:48,woot,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1496082708 127601780,127635564,2017-05-29 18:33:20,">>127635068 Nothing I was only stating something I've noticed on different websites. >>127635058 Guerrilla Warfare until they leave. I am not too keen on surrendering my land to communists.",,Anonymous,1427677367717.png,vgdTI/T9eUwRJ5iNfIvYEA==,US,,1496082800 127601780,127635571,2017-05-29 18:33:23,">>127634137 so are those geologists, who just study rocks and not the business behind them, the ultimate arbitrary judges for how resources are to be allocated? how would this be enforced on a mass scale? that's right, a fucking state piss off, might as well go full communism because you can pretend that a group of people can somehow magically know how to better use someone else's property, resources, and lives >If you manage your property well, you can dissuade violent takeover by providing value to the would-be takeoverers. yeah, and who decides how *well* this property is being managed? those same fucking commie geologists? jesus christ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496082803 127601780,127635772,2017-05-29 18:34:58,">>127606666 The image needs a quote. It is KEK's will.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496082898 127601780,127635847,2017-05-29 18:35:44,">>127634624 I asked you to tell me how shooting people in defense of my property supports these elite lizard-men you're talking about. You said that this morally restricts return-fire. So, I attempted to imply that you'd contradicted yourself by saying that the existence of laws, but in reality I'd conflated legal rights with moral rights. What I should have said is: Exercising your right to return-fire does not restrict return-fire in the slightest. In fact, it does the opposite.",,Anonymous,S N A K E.jpg,Fi/qiV2D6rr1VSi2hV/43A==,US,,1496082944 127601780,127636094,2017-05-29 18:38:03,">>127635571 Pathetic, are you gonna keep playing dumb? The geologists place in the mining company is not the issue. I'm presenting to you an idea about how violence functions in terms of economic value. A sub-optimal management of property is not tolerated without violent takeover for the reasons I have presented. Are you going to present a counter-argument?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496083083 127601780,127636124,2017-05-29 18:38:14,">>127601780 Talk about not making any sense, or policies/governments that just won't work. I'll give you a 5/10 for making me go hmmm though.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496083094 127601780,127636211,2017-05-29 18:39:08,">>127635005 I'd prefer Libertarian dictatorship over property owners democracy senpai.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496083148 127601780,127636493,2017-05-29 18:41:31,"LP died with Harry Browne. The leaders of the liberty movement do not support open borders. Memes needed. Here is a list of people who do not currently support open borders: Tom Woods Lew Rockwell (pretty sure) (((Dave Smith))) (((Michael Malice))) Jason Stapleton (((Liberty Hangout))) Chris Cantwell Reply to add more",,Anonymous,NotMyLP.png,Jxewn3oLxhSyWOKKI+uCYg==,US,,1496083291 127601780,127636549,2017-05-29 18:41:58,">>127636094 >Pathetic, are you gonna keep playing dumb? are you? >I'm presenting to you an idea about how violence functions in terms of economic value. which is based entirely on arbitrary perception >A sub-optimal management of property assessed on arbitrary grounds >Are you going to present a counter-argument? only when you start presenting actual arguments instead of ""hurr I *feel* exploited, I have the right to use violence! No, other people can't use violence against me because they too, feel exploited! My system is coherent, I swear!"" you've been operating on nigger logic for the entire duration of this thread",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496083318 127601780,127636862,2017-05-29 18:44:35,">>127635847 Starting here: In an ancap society, standing property rights are respected and may change only through consensual arrangements. Elite lizard-men hold the most valuable property. Through principles like the NAP, we defend the property of lizard-men. I assumed you were the lizard in our example. But of course there will be a class of property owners whose good work in producing goods and services will create an incentive AGAINST anyone taking their property. Or who are able to demonstrate enough of a military capability to dissuade takeover.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496083475 127601780,127637295,2017-05-29 18:48:32,">>127636549 forget rights for a second. If you hold property that can be taken from you at little loss for the taker. That's an economic incentive to take your property. If you manage property in a way that adds value to the public, by producing goods or services for example. Then that's an incentive AGAINST taking your property If you mismanage you property and someone else could use it to create more value for the public. That's an economic incentive to take your property. muh arbitrary perception",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496083712 127601780,127637501,2017-05-29 18:50:24,">>127636493 Murray Rothbard eventually came around to closed borders, Lew Rockwell for sure, Hans Hermann Hoppe too! See >>127602713",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496083824 127601780,127637852,2017-05-29 18:53:31,">>127636862 >I assumed There's your problem. Anyway, that is a fairly pro-ancap argument. As long as you're hard-working enough you'll prosper, and as long as you're strong enough, you'll keep what's yours. I don't see what you're arguing against here.",,Anonymous,smh stands for stefan molyneux's head.jpg,PKqLYdq+1vi2kltNHfuwJw==,US,,1496084011 127601780,127637869,2017-05-29 18:53:41,">>127635319 Anyways, property, as a concept, doesn't require any violations. A society where land is freely appropriated by first users without any ideological quarrels is idealizable",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1496084021 127601780,127637880,2017-05-29 18:53:44,">>127636862 >Elite lizard-men hold the most valuable property. so this is the rationale you have to justify literally stripping other good people of their freedom? nevermind that non-lizard folk can purchase property on their own, move up, manage other property, let's just seize the means of EVERYBODY's property ownership like good comrades for greater good, da? c'mon man. uncontrolled violence like that only introduces further uncontrolled violence, because then everybody will claim everyone else is part lizard and they are justified to act like niggers looting and rioting in the street because of how exploited they feel >>127637295 muh abitrary perception is right, because despite how well-managed your property might be, I could just claim it wasn't well-managed enough to MY liking (or the liking of special interest groups), and I am right to violently strip you of property no other central agency can sponsor such a madness of a system as you've described, other than a violent, cruel state as all states are are you this triggered just by someone having a plot of land purchased and gated for reserve use later? fucking geofags, man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496084024 127601780,127638051,2017-05-29 18:55:15,Hey never read your threads before. I'm a national socialist am I welcome here?,,Anonymous,NaziAmerica.png,1peLQ0qB5OOjwztqpvwL1A==,US,,1496084115 127601780,127638388,2017-05-29 18:58:23,">>127637880 > I could just claim it wasn't well-managed enough to MY liking You would be making bad value judgements and eliminating yourself from the market. You do understand how markets work right? The market is self-regulating. >so this is the rationale you have to justify literally stripping other good people of their freedom? Again, the violence-economic system would favor ""good people"" that do good work. They would be protected by everyone that is self-interested.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496084303 127601780,127638870,2017-05-29 19:02:31,">>127638051 everyone's welcome my man, just respect private property we share more in common with NatSocs than you might think. see earlier posts in infographs and FAQs >>127638388 >You would be making bad value judgements and eliminating yourself from the market. Nope, you say my force is justified. I use my force to strip you of your property because I think I can run it better. According to you, that's fair game >Again, the violence-economic system would favor ""good people"" that do good work. being violent is work. Their job is to take your property. >They would be protected by everyone that is self-interested. They would be protected by everyone that is self-interested in sacrificing freedom for their own gain, meaning you would have constant war between people who each claim they can do better with each other's property. At least in NAP-complaint Anarcho-Capitalism, they can only compete economically rather than with violence as you suggest in short, you're still thinking like a nigger",,Anonymous,1489061555114.png,x0bJutR+ZDseQf7E6V7Erw==,US,,1496084551 127601780,127638907,2017-05-29 19:02:55,">>127638051 >I'm a national socialist am I welcome here? As libertarians we're not particularly fond of statists but at least be nice and acknowledge our existence on /pol/ as legitimate and we'll do the same for you. We have common enemies anyway, so preventing too much division from happening on /pol/ is probably the best thing we can do for it in the presence of redditors and shills",,Anonymous,1493053598741.png,8hZ9oyvvSmLAMXfXzC3JXQ==,CA,,1496084575 127601780,127639091,2017-05-29 19:04:34,">>127638388 >You would be making bad value judgements and eliminating yourself from the market. So only the elders would decide who gets what? It's pretty funny that a Swede would uphold African traditions.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1496084674 127601780,127639206,2017-05-29 19:05:46,"How to destroy the pseudo ancap ancuck on borders: >According to AnarchoCapitalism ethics everything is owned by someone who has a right to it if he did not use violence. Therefore taxpayers own all of the land that is being illegitimately controlled by the State. Some of them want immigrants, others do not. We do not have a way to determine who should prevail giving that we cannot know how would our private property be distributed without the State. Given that it is not possible to decide if immigrants should be allowed or not in a determinate piece of land, they should not be allowed. The burden of proof lies on the open borderist because it's him that wants to change the composition of the population. But since he cannot provide legitimate proof of ownership of land in which to allow migrants, his position does not obtain. You could make lots of less complex good arguments, this and others are however a priori as long as one accept AnCap ethics.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1496084746 127601780,127639358,2017-05-29 19:06:54,">>127638870 >Nope, you say my force is justified. I use my force to strip you of your property because I think I can run it better. According to you, that's fair game. What if you don't run it better then? You'll suffer the same fate as the previous owner. I can tell from your post that you don't understand the mechanics of a market. This system imposes a cost on mismanaging property.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496084814 127601780,127639411,2017-05-29 19:07:23,">>127639206 If they live on the land a decade its their's. Anyone is free to it if its open.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496084843 127601780,127639548,2017-05-29 19:08:29,Fuck commies and nazis,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496084909 127601780,127639563,2017-05-29 19:08:37,">>127639091 The market would decide you cretin. You'd think a basic understanding of economics would be a prerequisite for becoming libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496084917 127601780,127639647,2017-05-29 19:09:20,">>127639358 >What if you don't run it better then? You'll suffer the same fate as the previous owner. so you admit endless cycles of war are an inevitability in your shitty system? >you don't understand the mechanics of a market. This system imposes a cost on mismanaging property. I can tell from your post that you don't understand the concept of respecting private property. This system imposes a cost on mismanaging property, but not at the cost of lives and eternal bloodshed over who gets to run who's property because they've arbitrarily determined they can run it better, just like the guy before them, and the just like the guy after them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496084960 127601780,127639735,2017-05-29 19:10:13,">>127639411 No, what you mean is that the State has decided that that's the way he should manage its illegitimate land monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1496085013 127601780,127639783,2017-05-29 19:10:38,">>127639563 >You'd think a basic understanding of economics would be a prerequisite for becoming libertarian. >openly advocating violence outside self-defense is now libertarian speak for yourself, swede",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496085038 127601780,127639792,2017-05-29 19:10:46,">>127639563 What market? You're arguing for stealing people's shit based on speculation.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1496085046 127601780,127639832,2017-05-29 19:11:09,">>127639647 >so you admit endless cycles of war are an inevitability in your shitty system No, the market favors good value judgements.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496085069 127601780,127639937,2017-05-29 19:12:08,">>127639792 In what cases would stealing land fail, and in which would it succeed? Please read my posts.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496085128 127601780,127640063,2017-05-29 19:13:17,">>127639735 No its a reasonable way to dissipate the State's illegitimate land monopoly. There is not a better reasonable way to give land away without someone else deciding who deserves it more or not, like a state department.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496085197 127601780,127640083,2017-05-29 19:13:33,">>127639832 >No, the market favors good value judgements. listen kid, I don't say ""muh market"" or ""the free market/invisible hand will fix it"" because that gives us a bad name for being dogmatic ideologues who can't explain themselves You are the one here who has no concept for a market. You just want private property taken away, justifying it through mental gymnastics of ""exploitation"" and ""muh market"" I'd tell you to gas yourself, but throwing you off helicopters is vogue atm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496085213 127601780,127640191,2017-05-29 19:14:32,">>127639937 then they would continue to keep waging neighborhood wars to steal each other's property instead of peacefully working lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496085272 127601780,127640243,2017-05-29 19:15:01,">>127639937 >YO COME BACK HERE WHITEY YOU MISMANAGED YOUR PROPERTY",,Anonymous,Ultra nigger.jpg,BrJUtOjIz3jY5z5mbX0vvw==,SI,,1496085301 127601780,127640343,2017-05-29 19:15:57,">>127640083 There's no mental gymnastics here, private property sometimes has bad utility, that's why it shouldn't be accepted as dogma or ideology.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496085357 127601780,127640651,2017-05-29 19:18:35,">>127640343 >no mental gymnastics here >does more mental gymnastics to justify his unreasonable world view",,Anonymous,1421732753364.jpg,BV7/TAdPXdPbJHubhqGPHg==,US,,1496085515 127601780,127640677,2017-05-29 19:18:47,">>127640191 >>127640243 Just tell me why private property should be respected. I'm showing you it has bad utility. The best you have is dogma about 'natural rights'. Does private property have utility? Then why should we respect it? Very simple questions here guys.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496085527 127601780,127640826,2017-05-29 19:20:03,">>127640343 >private property sometimes has bad utility >let me say this shouldn't be accepted as dogma or ideology, by making up my own dogma and ideology The theft of private property cannot be justified under any circumstance, regardless of how one perceives such property to be badly utilized. By your own logic, the entire geographical region as a whole could be interpreted as ""badly managed"", or the world could be ""badly managed"", and you form a totalitarian regime because you and your buddies know more than others on what is best in how it can be managed. spoiler alert: you don't, and the collapse is then inevitable kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496085603 127601780,127640850,2017-05-29 19:20:11,">>127640651 >>127640677 Jump in and argument me. Or do you lack arguments?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496085611 127601780,127640965,2017-05-29 19:21:13,">>127640677 > Does private property have utility? it doesn't have to have utility >Then why should we respect it? because then your own private property is respected",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496085673 127601780,127641037,2017-05-29 19:21:55,">>127640343 Value is subjective. You can never know nor tell someone what is good or bad utility, as you don't know better. Thousands have tried to say what is and what isn't valuable, all of them have failed. I might conceive that eating anything that is not rice and chicken is a waste of resources that doesn't allow us to flourish as society. Chicken and rice should have enough nutrients for society to be healthy and would allow us to allocate resources on other, more important matters. Fuck if I want to live in a world where I can only eat rice and chicken though.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496085715 127601780,127641081,2017-05-29 19:22:19,">>127640826 >The theft of private property cannot be justified under any circumstance, regardless of how one perceives such property to be badly utilized. Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496085739 127601780,127641161,2017-05-29 19:23:04,">>127641081 are you going to just cowardly post ""not an argument"" or can you actually counter?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496085784 127601780,127641367,2017-05-29 19:25:02,">>127640965 >because then your own private property is respected Sigh. As I've been saying, the person without property has no incentive to respect property. By your own admission.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496085902 127601780,127641424,2017-05-29 19:25:22,No booze? How will I justify my existence?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496085922 127601780,127641437,2017-05-29 19:25:29,I'm an Brazilian Integralist. Gustavo Barroso is who I follow not cuck Plínio. Property must be defended. Am I also ok?,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1494787177590.jpg,ckaNUWGcHfujshEZ6iOO8g==,BR,,1496085929 127601780,127641444,2017-05-29 19:25:32,">>127640677 >I'm showing you it has bad utility You're making some hypothetical anecdotes. Which is retarded. Governments have proven time and time again they not only don't know how to manage an economy as well as a decentralized system can. But it has an incentive to fuck up as well. Because they can extort more money through taxes to ""fix the problem"". And now you're giving the government the power to take your shit on a whim without ANY existing problem. Pure retardation.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1496085932 127601780,127641498,2017-05-29 19:25:58,">>127641161 He's not justifying property. What can I counter? I don't accept property as settled.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496085958 127601780,127641556,2017-05-29 19:26:35,,,Anonymous,gadsdenanticom.png,iaj/0fxdjgLZsOPWhSCKcQ==,US,,1496085995 127601780,127641557,2017-05-29 19:26:36,">>127641367 >the person without property has no incentive to respect property Your body and your mind are your unalienable property, and what you do with it is your property. Move up the ladder, acquire wealth, and purchase your own damn property instead of stealing it from others",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496085996 127601780,127641755,2017-05-29 19:28:18,">>127641444 >And now you're giving the government the power to take your shit on a whim without ANY existing problem. Nice strawman. I have said nothing about government. You are fit to argue with strawmen.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496086098 127601780,127641812,2017-05-29 19:28:54,">>127641557 So Feminists have a right to abort? They usually say: My Body My Rules. Is this ok?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496086134 127601780,127641817,2017-05-29 19:28:57,">>127641498 >He's there's IDs you sperg, you can't weasel out of this one. You CAN'T counter. Your very perception on property appears to be based on an arbitrary determination of utility, instead of by principles. That is literally how commies see the world, and think they can better manage other people's shit which justifies their force again, that never ends well",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496086137 127601780,127641928,2017-05-29 19:29:54,">>127641557 >Your body and your mind are your unalienable property, and what you do with it is your property. This is dogma. It's just as true or untrue to say 'what you take and control is your property'.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496086194 127601780,127641946,2017-05-29 19:30:02,">>127641755 So just a free for all then? Yup you're a Somali all right.",,Anonymous,1449698272171.jpg,tfr40sPnuHkvdlradscQWQ==,SI,,1496086202 127601780,127642039,2017-05-29 19:30:49,">>127641812 this is my own take, but sure, I don't care if niggers and degenerates want to abort their kids. Makes economical eugenics much easier that way",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496086249 127601780,127642050,2017-05-29 19:30:56,">>127641817 muh feels",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496086256 127601780,127642077,2017-05-29 19:31:09,">>127641817 So taking money made from usury by the (((Bankers))) and giving it back to your people who were deceived is bad? O-ok.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496086269 127601780,127642175,2017-05-29 19:32:03,">>127642039 Heh, the way you say makes sense. But what if the feminist is white? Aren't whites dying?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496086323 127601780,127642189,2017-05-29 19:32:10,">>127641928 it's not dogma that you own yourself and your actions, unless you're a comatose vegetable and/or a mentally deficient retard in the medical sense of the word which I suspect you really are at this point",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496086330 127601780,127642310,2017-05-29 19:33:12,">>127641946 That's fucking dumb dude. It IS essentially a free for all, but institutions form because violence is preferably avoided. They sure as fuck don't form because of 'principles'. Just read Clausewitz.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496086392 127601780,127642333,2017-05-29 19:33:22,">>127642077 >deceived Or maybe grow up and stop trying to have mommy hold your hand. Take some responsibility.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1496086402 127601780,127642373,2017-05-29 19:33:48,">>127640677 >if it ain't utilitarian i don't like it Look who's being dogmatic. In Anarchy, State, and Utopia, Robert Nozick has this to say about utilitarianism: >""Utilitarian theory is embarrassed by the possibility of utility monsters who get enormously greater sums of utility from any sacrifice of others than these others lose ... the theory seems to require that we all be sacrificed in the monster's maw, in order to increase total utility."" The idea of utility, in addition to being subjective as pointed out by maltabro in >>127641037, demands that the suffering of one be evaluated on equal terms with he who inflicted the suffering. If a broke man steals half of the money in a millionaire's bank account, then according to utilitarianism, that is perfectly justified because in the end the broke man's better off than before and the millionaire's not broke. Evaluating every action based on its utility will let you justify just about any crime under the sun.",,Anonymous,Robert-Nozick.jpg,kYzLM5ySGbADOSJER38iqg==,US,,1496086428 127601780,127642470,2017-05-29 19:34:45,">>127642333 So if my people are baited into debt it's their problem? So Jews are good and legit? Wew. Degeneracy then is ok since drugs and etc are individual decisions.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496086485 127601780,127642473,2017-05-29 19:34:46,">>127642050 the only person operating on feels here is you >waaaah I feel exploited >I must now act like a nigger and be violent! >why aren't you supporting this? :(((( >>127642077 those are central bankers, so of course those aren't justified >>127642175 I would rather that white feminist's lineage end with her than having it continued with Tyrone's genes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496086486 127601780,127642576,2017-05-29 19:35:44,">>127642189 Uneducated faggot nothing but ad hominem all thread. If you own yourself, why can you be killed or made to do things against your will. If you own property, why can it be taken from you. Just look at how things ARE, before you whine about how they SHOULD be. This is why ancap is a joke, it has no relation to the real world.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496086544 127601780,127642649,2017-05-29 19:36:12,">>127641367 He has incentive to respect self-ownership, as he owns himself and doesn't want to be subjected to being owned by someone else. If you respect self-ownership, then you must respect property, as there's nobody other than you who has a better claim on the mix between resources and your labor.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496086572 127601780,127642671,2017-05-29 19:36:27,">>127642470 Now you're getting it. Why the hell should I pay for fixing up their mess?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1496086587 127601780,127642687,2017-05-29 19:36:36,">>127642473 Why not just rape the feminist (if possible) and keep her as yours? No need to let her be Tyrones bitch my dude.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496086596 127601780,127642808,2017-05-29 19:37:45,">>127642373 Nozick has a retarded notion of utility. Besides I'm not saying there are no other values. I'm saying 'natural right' is a dogmatic and toothless argument because it does not hold up against the real world.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496086665 127601780,127642957,2017-05-29 19:38:57,">>127642649 Self-ownership is nice to have, but that's the end of it.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496086737 127601780,127642998,2017-05-29 19:39:25,">>127642576 >made to do things against your will you literally can't. Slaves resist, and slaves WILL resist. The ones who don't are just passively agreeing with their status as a slave. They have ownership of themselves to do so >If you own property, why can it be taken from you. because if your property can be aggressively taken from you, then everyone else can do the same and nobody will have private property >Just look at how things ARE, before you whine about how they SHOULD be. This is why ancap is a joke, it has no relation to the real world. yes because your commie-nigger mindset is more rooted in reality. Get fucking real",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496086765 127601780,127643071,2017-05-29 19:40:10,">>127642310 >institutions form because violence is preferably avoided So you're stealing property and you're an institution? How in the fuck is that not a commie govt then? >They sure as fuck don't form because of 'principles'. I only argued from the standpoint of benefit. >Just read Clausewitz. Lol no.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1496086810 127601780,127643082,2017-05-29 19:40:13,">>127641755 So who is going to enforce any of this? Is there going to be roving armed forces seizing whatever they want on some arbitrary assumption that is, boiled down, might is right. Your argument is as flimsy as Marx's. Niether of you explain how this amazing utopia is ever coming in fruition or how its going to be maintained. >>127640677 It should be for the sole fact of respecting privacy and individualism. Treat others as you want to be treated. Of course brain damaged people like you have been abused and mistreated so long you want everyone else to suffer too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496086813 127601780,127643191,2017-05-29 19:41:14,">>127642687 because if I allow myself to rape, then I am allowing others to rape my daughter by principle. So no, that doesn't work out. I would rather have no welfare for the feminist or tyrone so they starve and die from their own unemployability and degenerate lifestyles. This is how purity is achieved, not by rape babies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496086874 127601780,127643224,2017-05-29 19:41:31,">>127642671 What? I never said you should pay for anything lel. I said that if your people for example, got rekt economically by Jews smart movement of compound taxes over a debt it would be wrong to take back the money. Is that correct? In that sense, if your family owes (((them))) some shit which over time grew in value you must give a way to pay up for the debts which in original were not as high? Ie: they robbed you through increasing debts. (Your family bought shit but now they have to pay more than before because they couldn't pay it all at the time)",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496086891 127601780,127643367,2017-05-29 19:42:47,">>127643191 So the white race is really weak as they say. Its natural selection. Sad to see this. t. Whites",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496086967 127601780,127643522,2017-05-29 19:44:05,">>127642998 The real world operates on power not on principle. If you don't accept this you handicap yourself. That's why great leaders study strategy, realpolitik and rhetoric, not ideology. Get with it or stay forever cucked.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1496087045 127601780,127643553,2017-05-29 19:44:24,">>127643224 >taxes over a debt The government took on that debt not me. >Your family How the fuck am I responsible for my siblings?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1496087064 127601780,127643652,2017-05-29 19:45:18,">>127636493 Tom Woods Lew Rockwell (((Dave Smith))) (((Michael Malice))) Jason Stapleton (((Liberty Hangout))) Chris Cantwell Stefan Molyneux (((That Guy T))) Hans Herman Hoppe (((Murray Rothbard))) Ron Paul I'm sure all these people have nuanced views on the topic, but let's face it, the LP has thrown a wrench in the gears (on purpose, imv) but we are here and all I see is us growing and getting stronger while the LP gets its helicopter tickets printed. 1776 is /ouryear/ Oh, and all you tweener NatSoc wannabes, learn the fucking difference between a libertine and a libertarian, and an article/book, you degenerates. Reply to add more.",,Anonymous,7ad72eb19cdfd73ba64480f57ec188cc64de2a8f51ceaecd879b96228b2de6e9_1.jpg,m6dwRNvDfWUqvcK4gl8ojg==,US,,1496087118 127601780,127643689,2017-05-29 19:45:37,">>127642957 Without self-ownership there's no justification for freedom and therefore nothing wrong with slavery or killing.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496087137 127601780,127643849,2017-05-29 19:47:01,">>127642808 >that's retarded >natural rights don't hold up in the real (natural) world I was a fool to come to 4chan and expect rational discourse.",,Anonymous,fuggit.png,v4YS7ohqCGh7vP8G6M3RPg==,US,,1496087221 127601780,127643853,2017-05-29 19:47:02,">>127643522 >The real world operates on power not on principle. If you don't accept this you handicap yourself. That's why great leaders study strategy, realpolitik and rhetoric, not ideology Most of those men were or became miserable soulless tyrants. Theology and Philosophy is truly the greatest human achievement, if human at all, and has brought civilizations to the forefront of the world and its lacking has drove others to oblivion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496087222 127776178,127776178,2017-05-30 19:31:53,"Hoppey Hans edition This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. https://pastebin.com/ikhkQ1xe",/lrg/ - libertarian right general,Anonymous,Hans-Hoppe-ořez-e1494337275956.png,FIa9cfUc/dY8l5h/jxmw4Q==,US,,1496172713 127776178,127776434,2017-05-30 19:34:00,">>127776178 embrace natsoc",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496172840 127776178,127776890,2017-05-30 19:37:26,Embrace Left-wing Libertarianism,,Anonymous,Anarcho-Syndicalism.jpg,Yjw3Z9EeyREa9EsWeiEqug==,IE,,1496173046 127776178,127776927,2017-05-30 19:37:48,">>127776434 why?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496173068 127776178,127777031,2017-05-30 19:38:40,">>127776890 >embrace homosexual-catholicism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496173120 127776178,127777359,2017-05-30 19:41:25,">>127776927 Because together we are stronger, we only need fascism to eliminate our enemies, once it's done libertarianism will come next, but while communism has roots around the world they must be put to death",,Anonymous,1469903976137.jpg,p87+D3ccnYDllL51QrD5Ow==,GB,,1496173285 127776178,127777610,2017-05-30 19:43:29,">>127776890 >left-wing libertarianism",,Anonymous,DBCBZ02WAAAZ5xH.jpg,kMEw/rEiJ2XlHPat4qap0g==,US,,1496173409 127776178,127777630,2017-05-30 19:43:39,"discord /bMfuz5 bookclub, just starting.",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-no-crime-to-be-ignorant-of-economics-which-is-after-all-a-specialized-discipline-and-one-murray-rothbard-263126.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,US,,1496173419 127776178,127777798,2017-05-30 19:44:43,">>127776890 lmao thats not how they make their flags, this is",,Anonymous,eJwNw9sNwyAMAMBdGAAbzMtZpkIEkVRJQeB-Vd29Pek-6j0vtalDZKwNYD9X6XPXS_rMrerWe7tqHufSpd-QRXI57vqSBTYGJs8xUeBk0JEFQrKeg_93nMhyBIsmojPhYQg9on6Opr4_B1IjCA.jpg,nTnTomji4ylXsmMUnNiasA==,US,,1496173483 127776178,127777982,2017-05-30 19:45:51,">>127777359 Indeed.",,Anonymous,NatSocandAnCap.png,OuDRtlyA/LdtiaK7/qtqiw==,US,,1496173551 127776178,127778588,2017-05-30 19:50:43,What's up my niggers?,,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME_2_.png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,US,,1496173843 127776178,127778766,2017-05-30 19:52:15,">>127778588 Hey nigger, go back to your plantation. I fucking own you.",,Anonymous,lrg.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1496173935 127776178,127778962,2017-05-30 19:54:12,">>127778766 Who you calling a nigger, boy? That cotton ain't gonna pick itself now. Get to it.",,Anonymous,hippity_hoppity_cant_afford_property_16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,US,,1496174052 127776178,127779942,2017-05-30 20:02:51,">>127776890 >embrace a contradiction not even a juicy contradiction baka",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496174571 127868648,127868648,2017-05-31 12:44:36,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - WHAT'S COVFEFE? EDITION,Anonymous,free ride left side.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,SK,,1496234676 127868648,127869058,2017-05-31 12:48:17,">>127868648 >I support free speech >Pinochet is an approved person AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH are you so much of an ahistorical faggot you think this man supported freedom of expression or even property rights? Literally all he did was enforce the crony capitalist state aggressively, all on CIA globalist dollar of course. I mean you support both Alex Jones, muh globalists man extaordinaire, and yet you also support literal CIA backed globalists. The right libertarian right are truly the most autistic ideology going",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496234897 127868648,127869194,2017-05-31 12:49:27,">>127868648 >small government >Pinochet. again. HA also Alex Jones is a Trump supporter. Trump has an is increasing the stretch of the state. You are a fucking retard",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496234967 127868648,127869252,2017-05-31 12:50:00,">>127868648 also Alex Jones is a paid shill, given that he backtracked on Pizza gate and even said in open court his whole thing was an act",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496235000 127868648,127869368,2017-05-31 12:51:08,,,Anonymous,there_is_hoppe.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,ES,,1496235068 127868648,127869673,2017-05-31 12:53:46,">>127869058 >>127869194 >>127869252 You better show me the permit for your shitposting license.",,Anonymous,allende btfo.jpg,3/2aRCaFCZasALSG/RlAxA==,SK,,1496235226 127868648,127869713,2017-05-31 12:54:03,">>127869058 >>127869194 >>127869252 Someone's buttblasted that there's a helicopter ride coming for them.",,Anonymous,drop-it-like-its-hot.png,uXlZAp9Mggp51ePEIV/s7w==,US,,1496235243 127868648,127869754,2017-05-31 12:54:22,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1496235262 127868648,127869960,2017-05-31 12:56:20,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,reading list lrg.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,SK,,1496235380 127868648,127870158,2017-05-31 12:58:09,">>127869673 >>127869713 literally 0% arguments. either you support free speech and you don't support Pinochet, or you don't support free speech and do support Pinochet, which is it neocon faggots?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496235489 127868648,127870276,2017-05-31 12:59:12,"Murray Rothbard in defense of his pupil https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/murray-n-rothbard/hoppephobia/",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496235552 127868648,127870355,2017-05-31 12:59:56,">>127869960 >>The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith Utterly debunked. He begins with the premise that before money there was a system of barter, there is no evidence for this as a widespread medium of exchange, rather primitive tribes and clans would give each other goods freely, barter would only take place between strangers. In fact before barter complex systems of debt existed, and money was the replacement for these. Adam Smiths entire theory fundamentall misreads the nature of money. Read Debt:The First 5000 Years for the real story.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496235596 127868648,127870497,2017-05-31 13:01:10,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,snek aurora borealis.png,X5iuUGxp/H2xIYJkdVWqhQ==,SK,,1496235670 127868648,127870607,2017-05-31 13:02:12,">>127870158 >neocon Nice try, /leftypol/. Free speech is nice, unless it advocates for the appropriation of other people's property.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496235732 127868648,127870765,2017-05-31 13:03:42,">>127870355 >freely >complex system of debt Pick one, faggot. If it's free, you don't expect anything in return.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496235822 127868648,127870846,2017-05-31 13:04:29,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,society compass.jpg,jX+aUq+5bbbZdihAEaJEkg==,SK,,1496235869 127868648,127870914,2017-05-31 13:05:04,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI",,Anonymous,not an argument wave.jpg,a7J+zzGxOke7onga0nE0hQ==,SK,,1496235904 127868648,127870966,2017-05-31 13:05:37,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,johnson.png,nnFcA9shSnsvOizwSaWomQ==,SK,,1496235937 127868648,127871933,2017-05-31 13:13:56,">>127870966 >that picture >milton >rand Holy shit, time to fix that heresy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496236436 127868648,127872157,2017-05-31 13:16:02,">>127871933 Hoppe and McVeigh ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496236562 127868648,127872300,2017-05-31 13:17:17,">>127872157 Rothbard and Hoppe. McVeigh was good to go, but not too big of a philosopher. Though the ""I am the captain of my fate, I am the master of my soul"" line is great.",,Anonymous,johnson.png,02bxsjivDaoRml24EuY08Q==,SK,,1496236637 127868648,127874203,2017-05-31 13:33:47,">>127871933 >milton Voucher is theft.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496237627 127868648,127874927,2017-05-31 13:40:12,Wassap niggers. Stay off my property and keep your hands off my gibs. They belong to me!,,Anonymous,OpenBorders2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1496238012 127868648,127875653,2017-05-31 13:47:05,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1496238425 127868648,127876091,2017-05-31 13:51:14,There's nothing more Libertarian than killing communists.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1496238674 127868648,127876248,2017-05-31 13:52:48,">>127868648 >whats covfefe edition",,Anonymous,1496252732640.jpg,zs0qYhrdKSApYFQEOuvcGg==,GB,,1496238768 127868648,127876855,2017-05-31 13:58:26,">>127876248 wtf i love drumpf now",,Anonymous,file.png,9A7b+l4WSljiASSkxo7fwQ==,GB,,1496239106 127868648,127877065,2017-05-31 14:00:22,">>127870607 >Free speech is nice, unless it advocates for the appropriation of other people's property. >free speech is nice, unless it says something my feels can't handle. and still ZERO arguments. >>127870765 Yes faggot, you gave stuff to your neighbours, but you had complex systems of debt with the neighbouring village, and if you met a guy you didn't know, you couldn't trust him to pay the debt back, so you traded directly. Huuur duuur you're a fucking retard read the book. Its a commonly held academic point, Smith had no evidence for that part of his theory, go read The Wealth of Nations, look it up, you will find it not provided.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496239222 127868648,127877166,2017-05-31 14:01:24,">>127872300 >BABIES LMAO >HAVING A KING IS TRUE FREEDOM LMAO RETARD IDEOLOGY FOR RETARDS",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496239284 127868648,127877388,2017-05-31 14:03:15,">>127877166 Is a meme you dip. dog bless",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496239395 127868648,127877815,2017-05-31 14:06:44,">>127870966 >>127872300 >>127872300",,Anonymous,1494116440359 (1).png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,GB,,1496239604 127868648,127877888,2017-05-31 14:07:24,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1496239644 127868648,127878395,2017-05-31 14:12:09,">>127877888 and his answer to this is? Oh do what we were doing before but with more baby selling...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496239929 127868648,127878562,2017-05-31 14:13:37,"Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years, so in order to fill this void in my being I need to exert my internal problems onto other human beings by participating in slavery called ""government"". I actually care about people so much I think they should be required by gun point to help fund roads! So they can get to work of course... I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, and drugs. Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care of them anyway. I've never seen a pothole in my life. Ancaps btfo!",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,aclEqmQcWEnFmg9gjgBH8Q==,US,,1496240017 127868648,127879020,2017-05-31 14:17:56,">>127878395 Yes more baby selling. Now please go away.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496240276 127868648,127879242,2017-05-31 14:19:53,">>127870607 >free speech is fine unless I disagree with it Kek, this is the level of cog dis of your average anfag",,Anonymous,1495534836447.jpg,8iHW5aNp/fqM6VaTSlzzgQ==,GB,,1496240393 127868648,127879479,2017-05-31 14:22:01,">>127878562 >strawman + babby's first political psych-an >mfw ancaps are now copying SJW ""argument"" methods",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,RsM19hiQkhDGyz3sk/WXaw==,GB,,1496240521 127868648,127879506,2017-05-31 14:22:14,"Book club discord /7RjBcF",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-no-crime-to-be-ignorant-of-economics-which-is-after-all-a-specialized-discipline-and-one-murray-rothbard-263126.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,US,,1496240534 127868648,127879558,2017-05-31 14:22:48,">>127872300 The irony of posting a Zizek meme, when he would absolutely trash any ancap in a debate",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496240568 127868648,127879670,2017-05-31 14:23:42,">>127879242 >>127879479 You're just awful. Your bait is trash",,Anonymous,9F1A9B07_A14B_4F25_A25D_76C15C067A1B_3061_000004786CB7E6C6.jpg,6dR2xQWwsYRHTncRCjVPHg==,US,,1496240622 127868648,127879959,2017-05-31 14:26:25,">>127879670 >I have no arguments and can only regurgitate cringworthy ""memes"", so I'll dismiss your posts as bait to try and get an emotional response",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496240785 127868648,127880225,2017-05-31 14:28:39,">>127879959 That is a perfect description of your previous posts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496240919 127868648,127880317,2017-05-31 14:29:28,">>127879959 But everything you've posted so far has been a non-argument",,Anonymous,AncapHmm.png,SDwjnzLvU89QiSUfvzYQIw==,GB,,1496240968 127868648,127880556,2017-05-31 14:31:26,">>127869754 >Whom'st'd'll've makes me laugh everytime",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496241086 127868648,127880941,2017-05-31 14:34:19,who here ancap but would voluntarily move to a new place to work and pay more in taxes if the services weren't actually dog shit?,,Anonymous,1496254372735.jpg,b3CKoll6DCBOINpwx0bfKw==,US,,1496241259 127868648,127880975,2017-05-31 14:34:32,">>127880317 Debunking anarcho capitalism is exceptionally easy. Governments arise naturally in a completely free market, because humans demand power and influence over others and have done since the dawn of time. That's how governments formed in the first place, back when we lived in total tribal anarchy.",,Anonymous,1789c666fca55c651b4d964185482e5a.jpg,GIDXUcDo8qnnLQZWpBorjA==,GB,,1496241272 127868648,127881002,2017-05-31 14:34:44,">>127870607 >Free speech is nice, unless it advocates for the appropriation of other people's property. You just blow in from stupid town?",,Anonymous,IMG_2632.jpg,BA0JnGwzOR3VtIgS1zRWIQ==,US,,1496241284 127868648,127881098,2017-05-31 14:35:34,">>127881002 Lol, there's no free speech on my property cuckboi.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496241334 127868648,127881332,2017-05-31 14:37:13,">>127868648 Is this the official theme of /LRG/ ??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496241433 127868648,127881429,2017-05-31 14:37:56,">>127881098 >be ancap >everywhere is private property where people dont tolerate free speech because muh property, muh rules >if you hurt the property owners feelings or disrespect the corporate landlords you get ""physically removed"" for violating the NAP >realise ancapistan has less free speech than North Korea",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496241476 127868648,127881451,2017-05-31 14:38:05,">>127880975 You've read Leviathan. Hobbes is right, and so are you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496241485 127868648,127881586,2017-05-31 14:39:16,">>127868648 >libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1492720403940.jpg,4GHpUM7yQQYmlFaCbzrtnA==,US,,1496241556 127868648,127881606,2017-05-31 14:39:28,">>127880975 >Governments arise naturally in a completely free market. Yes, we call it private law. This is the theory of austro-libertarianism. You've just made the argument for Anarcho Capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496241568 127868648,127881736,2017-05-31 14:40:25,">>127881429 Get off my lawn before I send in the McDeathsquad. Liberals are not welcome.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496241625 127868648,127882110,2017-05-31 14:43:03,">>127881606 elaborate >>127881736 I'm not a liberal, I just have an elementary grounding in anthropology.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496241783 127868648,127883192,2017-05-31 14:51:13,">>127882110 >elaborate You explained it well. People like borders and national security, they would pay for those services and many more services that the state is known to provide. You would have governance by the best provider in a free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496242273 127868648,127883720,2017-05-31 14:55:00,"Do you guys know Voegelin? >>127880975 Being natural does not imply necessarily that something is desirable or fair. Rape is natural however is an immoral act In any case, the argumentation ethics proves that what is natural, so to speak, is the private property anarchy",,Anonymous,Voegelin_photo.jpg,2lMDLBUMItGS+sFuXTq4UA==,BR,,1496242500 127868648,127884300,2017-05-31 14:59:20,">>127880975 If people demand rule over me, I'll give them a taste of tyranny.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496242760 127868648,127886143,2017-05-31 15:12:18,,,Anonymous,timeforarguments.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,US,,1496243538 127868648,127886322,2017-05-31 15:13:40,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1495873053919.jpg,vOPVcre0rds0GF7RR1PBYA==,US,,1496243620 127868648,127886608,2017-05-31 15:15:41,,,Anonymous,1489063397341.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1496243741 127868648,127886613,2017-05-31 15:15:46,">>127868648 Embrace Liberalism/Leftist Libertarianism already, faggots.",,Anonymous,Absolutely disgusting.jpg,hiaNMXKdQbYI97h3X3ABTg==,IE,,1496243746 127868648,127886762,2017-05-31 15:16:49,">>127886613 >Left Libertarianism I prefer Jewish Nazism desu",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496243809 127868648,127887459,2017-05-31 15:21:39,Willy Wonka's Homeland Security when,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496244099 127868648,127887562,2017-05-31 15:22:16,">>127886762 >Jewish National Socialism I don't see anything contradictory here. Most Jews tend to be globalists but nothing inherently impossible.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1496244136 127868648,127887638,2017-05-31 15:22:49,">>127886762 It's called Zionism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496244169 127868648,127887714,2017-05-31 15:23:20,">>127881429 Physical removal does not violate the right of free speech. Different from the government that sends someone to jail or force the citzen to pay reparations. Your comparison is insane. If someone insults your mother and you expel such person from your house this action does not violate free speech Hoppe still recommends that we should tolerate the young ones, ostracism and mocking would be enough for the youngs, but for adults there should be no tolerance, if those people advocate for communism, democracy, nazism they will have to phisical removal from the libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,bba1ddae20467ae5d55440330bcc123a.jpg,ujBwh19dB+GqSY+ow/cnqA==,BR,,1496244200 127868648,127887851,2017-05-31 15:24:14,Oompa Loompa Labor Immigration Policy to be determined,,Anonymous,Oompa-Loompas-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-4817822-640-429.jpg,QX7G9OQqu7VtnfjnIQmEdA==,CA,,1496244254 127868648,127888033,2017-05-31 15:25:35,">>127886613 Leftist politics are inherently egalitarian are they not? In what world is that compatible with libertarianism? Social-Darwinism is the way to go, the worst of society and degenerates who can't make it should disappear... not become a burden for the productive. This is the two sided conflict that plays out even in mainstream politics today, im sure most republicans aren't hardcore darwinists in the sense they want to people to die... but at least they shouldn't be encouraged into becoming parasites like they are today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496244335 127868648,127888247,2017-05-31 15:26:57,">>127886613 That's wicked gay. Fuck that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496244417 127868648,127888252,2017-05-31 15:26:58,,,Anonymous,erictherat4.jpg,J1FkiXcT8Ord4m4y/JPMWg==,AU,,1496244418 127868648,127888307,2017-05-31 15:27:23,>>127888252,,Anonymous,Erictherat.jpg,SWP4r95PbxV4fu37RoWmVw==,AU,,1496244443 127868648,127888606,2017-05-31 15:29:43,">>127888307 >Nambla What did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496244583 127868648,127888672,2017-05-31 15:30:10,">>127868648 >Actual socialist and communist threads are more active on /pol/ Absolutely disgusting",,Anonymous,1487559237199.jpg,4ANvUvafoqJmHp5Wtfw1Zw==,US,,1496244610 127868648,127889015,2017-05-31 15:32:19,">>127886613 I'd sooner embrace national socialism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496244739 127868648,127889260,2017-05-31 15:34:01,">>127889015 >Socialists in the same thread as me",,Anonymous,1487309847469.jpg,kEbwmtCVCPaxxMdyt0j7yw==,US,,1496244841 127868648,127889277,2017-05-31 15:34:07,">>127886613 I kind of like Proudhon ( one of thre greatest brazilian philosofers, Mario Ferreira dos Santos, was a proudhonian) but Stiner, Bakunin and Kropotkin were a bunch of rascals",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496244847 127868648,127889422,2017-05-31 15:35:02,">>127881429 Internet is still the place for free speach, if what you say it true(unlikely).",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496244902 127868648,127889572,2017-05-31 15:35:53,">>127888033 You can't have liberty without equality under the law, equality of opportunity and equal rights through anti-discrimination laws",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496244953 127868648,127889904,2017-05-31 15:38:19,">>127889572 I like discriminate tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496245099 127868648,127889984,2017-05-31 15:38:45,">>127889904 I like *to discriminate tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496245125 127868648,127890135,2017-05-31 15:39:45,>>127888606,,Anonymous,Erictheratsnitch.jpg,CzWVvx4ZhQodkD1VTYULdA==,AU,,1496245185 127868648,127890225,2017-05-31 15:40:17,">>127889572 >anti-discrimination laws are liberty I swear to god these threads are being purposely fucked with for some reason by shills.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496245217 127868648,127890532,2017-05-31 15:42:35,">>127889904 >>127890225 You're oppressing someone by discriminating against them. Oppression is the opposite of liberty.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496245355 127868648,127890721,2017-05-31 15:43:51,">>127890532 No I'm not. No one has a right to my property. They can fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496245431 127868648,127891030,2017-05-31 15:46:08,>>127890532,,Anonymous,u new.jpg,NshCKgRGW4UpQLlDcF2Fpg==,BR,,1496245568 127868648,127891159,2017-05-31 15:47:04,fuck commies and nazis,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496245624 127868648,127891283,2017-05-31 15:48:04,"This is my political compass. I'm close to an authotiaruan, however, still on the libertarian half. Do you deem this exceptable? Should I call myself a libertarian?",,Anonymous,IMG_6766.jpg,0d8o0PYlVSBIAmxttZLv1w==,US,,1496245684 127868648,127891376,2017-05-31 15:48:45,">>127890721 No one's talking about property. We're talking about selling goods and services.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496245725 127868648,127891615,2017-05-31 15:50:20,">>127891376 Goods and services are property. My labor and resources I've gathered belong to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496245820 127868648,127891912,2017-05-31 15:52:20,">>127890532 If you are so oppressed to the point where you can't survive within society because no one wants to do business with you. And so worthless that you can't leave and go somewhere else then you perish. That's the whole point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496245940 127868648,127892196,2017-05-31 15:54:26,">>127889260 >implying I'm a socialist I'm a minarchist, but I'd sooner embrace national socialism than left libertarianism. Not that I'd ever embrace the latter, so the discussion of embracing the former is irrelevant",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496246066 127868648,127892246,2017-05-31 15:54:51,">>127891283 >Basing labels on online tests and not your real beliefs What do you think on issues?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496246091 127868648,127892496,2017-05-31 15:56:43,>>127891283,,Anonymous,tumblr_o0ol734zUd1t44ud8o1_500.jpg,5WJ0HwyHxd+YMzcXVTSbxA==,NL,,1496246203 127868648,127892523,2017-05-31 15:56:57,">>127891912 Right, degenerates have the freedom to die in a snowbank if they can't pave their own path.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496246217 127868648,127893861,2017-05-31 16:07:11,">>127891615 Dey can't be ur property cuz goodz and services are to be given to everyone becuz property doesn't exist and u must gibs some tendies to da negroids and shitskinz odderwiss it b oppressing dem I swear you must gibs them the gibz",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496246831 127868648,127894046,2017-05-31 16:08:39,">>127892523 Ostracization is also a very important tool in our type of society. It's a way of punishing actions without breaking the NAP. People can deny service, and conversely people can deny their patronage based on actions. While this does allow for racism, if society is OK is with it then there has to be some kind of reason for it. And it would be up to that ethnic community to address that and fix it. Unwarranted racism could be met with boycotting (a form of ostracization) of that particular business for it's perceived unfair action. this is true liberty, not state enforced actions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496246919 127868648,127894135,2017-05-31 16:09:20,>>127893861,,Anonymous,1490890403955s.jpg,bw+NvHBsDLo4Pq0V1pgxjA==,NL,,1496246960 127868648,127894274,2017-05-31 16:10:30,">>127893861 Sheeeeit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496247030 127868648,127894453,2017-05-31 16:11:52,,,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1496247112 127868648,127895244,2017-05-31 16:17:35,"I've been thinking of starting an ancap youtube channel, focusing on repilling people on a variety of subjects including economics. What do you think? Worth doing?",,Anonymous,kamina glass.png,kn52j694m1t4viR3Tel+qQ==,CA,,1496247455 127868648,127895649,2017-05-31 16:20:33,">>127895244 Only if you're covering dank /lrg/ topics that there aren't thousands of videos for already. What are you planning to make videos on?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496247633 127868648,127895698,2017-05-31 16:20:51,>>127895244,,Anonymous,1496259985232s.jpg,OMzzPZyaByuzPcNTH80WvA==,NL,,1496247651 127868648,127896339,2017-05-31 16:25:43,">>127895649 Why free market capitalism is the greatest human invention to ever exist, why the USA is the greatest and most prosperous nation in the history of humanity, why moderates and liberals are indecisive retards, why universal suffrage was a mistake, etc. Those kind of things.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496247943 127868648,127896629,2017-05-31 16:27:48,">>127896339 Literally what every libertarian youtuber talks about here.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496248068 127868648,127896668,2017-05-31 16:28:02,">>127868648 >/lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. I think your forgetting someone important OP",,Anonymous,AR-Drawn.jpg,I3piWv6pFbKIMnOsZN4COw==,US,,1496248082 127868648,127896733,2017-05-31 16:28:32,">>127896339 Nice I like it. Go for it, shill it here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496248112 127868648,127896913,2017-05-31 16:30:13,Free helicopter rides violate the NAP,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496248213 127868648,127897001,2017-05-31 16:30:53,">>127896629 if you have suggestions for other topics, I'm all for it. Do you have things you want to hear which youtubers simply aren't talking about?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496248253 127868648,127897024,2017-05-31 16:31:05,">>127896913 No. It's all voluntary funded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496248265 127868648,127897164,2017-05-31 16:32:14,">>127897001 Go for the edgy stuff. I like the case against universal suffrage idea.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496248334 127868648,127897300,2017-05-31 16:33:18,">>127897001 I'd like to see more specific stuff about hoppean libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496248398 127868648,127897449,2017-05-31 16:34:44,">>127897164 >>127897001 This. Don't talk about America being the greatest nation but focus on it's ills like the federal reserve and stuff like that. Ancap youtube channels should cover topics related to the state",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496248484 127868648,127897529,2017-05-31 16:35:25,">>127897300 This isn't a bad idea, do the left-ancap/right ancap devide",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496248525 127868648,127898159,2017-05-31 16:40:01,The brazilian ancap gay anon die? I have not seen him in a long time.,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496248801 127868648,127898671,2017-05-31 16:44:15,">>127898159 AIDS Not even once",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496249055 127868648,127899446,2017-05-31 16:50:23,">>127880975 I do hope you get the lawlessness you crave. I predict you get murdered within 24 hours of societal collapse based on your post.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1496249423 127868648,127900687,2017-05-31 17:00:24,"I have a question, /lrg/ Without relying on memes like McNukes, how can it be possible that an true ancap society defend itself against a more typical government with a organised army, without going full hypocrite?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496250024 127868648,127900725,2017-05-31 17:00:39,Did (((they))) take down the One Dollar Stefan Molyneux Metallica parody?,,Anonymous,1486436250146.jpg,oKD1m+jwxjftp4VpFvvAdg==,US,,1496250039 127868648,127901041,2017-05-31 17:03:26,">>127900687 An organized militia ? You don't need a government for that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496250206 127868648,127902154,2017-05-31 17:12:19,">>127901041 While an organised militia would help defend against brigands and the likes, I don't think that it would help against a force armed and funded by a dedicated state, primarily in the 21st century, unless I'm missing something.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496250739 127868648,127902361,2017-05-31 17:14:05,">>127902154 > primarily in the 21st century, unless I'm missing something. Every civil war exsting yes You are misssing something",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496250845 127868648,127903298,2017-05-31 17:21:06,">>127902361 But that's a civil war, brother on brother. The state would be fighting their own people in a civil war. My question is how a true, separate ancap society would stand against a foreign nation's invasion against them.",,Anonymous,b7d.png,xG9nLEHa9FBOkkwUtWbshg==,GB,,1496251266 127868648,127903561,2017-05-31 17:23:07,">>127869058 He supported property rights. At a time the situation is critical and property rights are threatened by leftists, their physical removal is justified.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496251387 127868648,127903730,2017-05-31 17:24:25,">>127903298 I meant a civil war in The sense that the organized loyalist armed group fight a rebellious one",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496251465 127868648,127903803,2017-05-31 17:25:02,">>127900687 Insurance companies will protect the territory from a foreign invasion by any means.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496251502 127868648,127903893,2017-05-31 17:25:46,">>127900725 Probably",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496251546 127868648,127904000,2017-05-31 17:26:29,">>127886613 fuck off pastanigger",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1496251589 127868648,127904359,2017-05-31 17:29:12,">>127904000 >Flag Giovanni, you've hada to much wine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496251752 127868648,127905277,2017-05-31 17:36:05,">>127869960 did the reading list change? what happened to pic related?",,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1496252165 127868648,127905380,2017-05-31 17:36:55,">>127905277 Based Slovak has his own paste and reading list when he hosts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496252215 127868648,127905892,2017-05-31 17:40:43,">>127868648 I'm a Pragmatist so I generally consider myself a Libertarian but I'm too jaded to think it can honestly work in large scales without it turning into anarchy since it requires the majority of people to be strong & intelligent enough to handle it. I know I'm oversimplifying but that's the bottom line imo.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1496252443 127868648,127905916,2017-05-31 17:40:55,">>127886322 I like this pic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496252455 127868648,127905945,2017-05-31 17:41:09,">>127903730 Still, the fact that the nations are separate means that the ancaps can't undermine the state like proper civil war rebels can, and would have to rely much more on outside help to supply the heavy weaponry like tanks to fight against the state, which might undermine themselves due to the debt they have to their suppliers. >>127903803 Clarify what you mean by that, like, do you mean through political pressure and the likes, or do you mean employing PMCs against the state's forces?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496252469 127868648,127906328,2017-05-31 17:43:53,">>127890532 Liberty is freedom to both reject as well as accept You're restricting my freedom to discriminate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496252633 127868648,127906360,2017-05-31 17:44:07,"Serious question for ancaps because I'm wondering: What happens to disabled/mentally retarded/unable to work (critical injury) in ancapistan? Just let them die? how will capitalism care for them?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496252647 127868648,127906559,2017-05-31 17:45:31,">>127905945 >and would have to rely much more on outside help to supply the heavy weaponry Like any armed force don't see the point",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496252731 127868648,127906726,2017-05-31 17:46:48,">>127906360 Families or eugenics You can choose",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496252808 127868648,127906792,2017-05-31 17:47:21,">>127905380 fair enough. There's no denying he is based and I can respect that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496252841 127868648,127906940,2017-05-31 17:48:26,">>127906726 makes sense Most people will have a problem with this though....",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496252906 127868648,127906954,2017-05-31 17:48:34,">>127906360 Some my mates aren't redpilled enough for this but the truth is you need churches in ancapistan. They are a privately run charity foundation that has historically helped down and out types. ron paul has a bit about this and as a cypto-ancap his message applies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496252914 127868648,127907155,2017-05-31 17:49:55,">>127906940 frenchy is right too. bottom line is charity>theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496252995 127868648,127907207,2017-05-31 17:50:21,">>127906360 private charities, there's no tax and the economy booms so more people have more money to donate to good causes >b-but they're not guaranteed any gibs! and people say capitalism was heartless, the thought that people must be forced to """"""donate"""""" by the use of force is utterly despicable and defeats the moral value of donation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496253021 127868648,127907502,2017-05-31 17:52:36,">>127906559 By that, I mean the militia need to rely on buying such stuff from non-hostile nations/companies, unlike the state attacking them, who are able to provide their own tanks and the likes to their arm forces. Unless the ancaps pay what they owe them in full, they would be in debt to their provider, who can justify a war with the former society if they don't pay back the debt.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496253156 127868648,127907723,2017-05-31 17:54:25,">>127906360 What people have said, plus, you could perhaps take out insurance to cover support for subsequent disability or retarded family members.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496253265 127868648,127907948,2017-05-31 17:56:26,">>127907207 >>127907155 >>127906726 >>127907723 thanks guys What about privatised courts If I pay judges to decide if an action is breaking the NAP, why would they ever rule against my interest? So private security and private court = can do whatever the fuck I want >looked funny at me. breaks NAP. die motherfucker Why would other people accept the courts decisions?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496253386 127868648,127907971,2017-05-31 17:56:38,">>127900687 well if it's an outside invasion scenario, people would temporarily unite and fund against it if it means securing their own livelihood. This means concentrating their wealth to purchase mass weapons, war machines, and manpower to defend their home just like any other nation at war. Maybe a temporary contract to unite until the threat has been dealt and peace is restored. You just can't just expect people to give up and surrender everything just because there's no government an element of national cohesion is still there without necessarily having a government: families and children of freedom, they won't let dare other people take that away from them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496253398 127868648,127908466,2017-05-31 18:00:28,">>127907948 much like any court you must present evidence before a jury of some sort and it has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. could you bribe everyone? maybe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496253628 127868648,127908893,2017-05-31 18:03:46,">>127907948 >If I pay judges to decide if an action is breaking the NAP, why would they ever rule against my interest? because that sounds like a shitty justice system nobody would trust if things can be purchased into your favor. Just like now. Nobody would trust that system, and people would naturally drift to something that's fair. Currently people don't have this option, they just have to suck up that their court system is trash with no competition to deliver quality service, just people already experienced with how to play an exploited game >So private security and private court = can do whatever the fuck I want not necessary, if you break other people's NAP, then you would constitute to be a threat and then be eliminated. All courts follow the NAP, and if they don't, they will cease to have the official recognition needed to really function as a court system because they're blatantly violating a fundamental principle of Ancap Ancap is freedom from government, not freedom from consequences. If you act like a dick, you just can't pay yourself out of the situation. Other people will act like a dick to you in return, meaning more people would actually be responsible than they already are >Why would other people accept the courts decisions? They wouldn't. It's difficult to picture a system that has multiple courts to choose from since we all have grown up with it, but understand that while there may be several predominant established court systems in ancapistan, there still remains the possibility of smaller ones competing against the big fishes offering the best possible service and appeal to justice",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496253826 127868648,127909186,2017-05-31 18:06:16,"When did we switch to specifically calling it 'right wing libertarian' general? I've reduced my /pol/ usage to happenings-only. Also what does /lbg/ think of Jordan Peterson? Seems like an exceptionally smart guy, has some great memes too.",,Anonymous,leredditpicture.png,vTZqjjiudyOJCnQdRyyDug==,DE,,1496253976 127868648,127909721,2017-05-31 18:10:28,">>127908893 >because that sounds like a shitty justice system nobody would trust if things can be purchased into your favor. Just like now. Nobody would trust that system ya but currently the courts have to follow general agreed upon laws Without a governement dictating these laws every court could decide in favour of it's funder. >not necessary, if you break other people's NAP A court I pay will always say I'm not violating the NAP is what I'm trying to say. The NAP is way to broadly defined for that. >possibility of smaller ones competing against the big fishes offering the best possible service and appeal to justice If you're a small man you'll always lose against interest of people with more purchasing power",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496254228 127868648,127909847,2017-05-31 18:11:30,">>127909186 I created the first /lrg/ as far as I know there was a /liberty/ thread prior but no ""libertarian general"" the reason for being the libertarian RIGHT general is to welcome more reactionary and conservative ideas, as well as promoting a staunchly anti-left culture and seperating ourselves from socially liberal fiscally conservative/Dudeweed libertarians",,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,US,,1496254290 127868648,127910620,2017-05-31 18:17:27,">Be a libertarian society >Society next door looks like pic related Wat do?",,Anonymous,130627_DISM_NaziSocialClubs.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg,E+tJO7ri4i0YMOEresQ6PQ==,US,,1496254647 127868648,127910868,2017-05-31 18:19:17,">>127907971 I do understand that, as a national cohesion prevents the nation from just being civil war central. But they would require outside help for such war machines and mercenaries, which means that they depend on non-hostile nations/companies to survive against aggressors. Because of that, I believe that any Ancapistan-like society would serve more akin to a buffer state, instead of a more independent superpower or the likes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496254757 127868648,127910994,2017-05-31 18:20:15,">>127907971 >You just can't just expect people to give up and surrender everything just because there's no government No, but you can expect many of the richest to side with the invaders knowing that they'll be rewarded well once the invasion is successful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496254815 127868648,127911496,2017-05-31 18:23:53,">>127910620 sell them cool shit and leave them be. meanwhile prepare the mcnukes incase shit goes down. our free market would probably give us a technological edge and we could probably have multiple doomsday devices before their 1940's methhead scientists could half-bake a v2 rocket.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496255033 127868648,127911648,2017-05-31 18:25:03,">>127909721 >Without a governement dictating these laws every court could decide in favour of it's funder. if it is known that a certain court is so blatantly corrupt, then other courts will not recognize it, and the people will not use it. Because now it is a private court, it does not make enough money from good service to sustain itself and is driven out the market the consumers have a say, you know. The idea is that if something doesn't serve the people, it dies. As it is, current courts are there regardless of whether or not it serves the people and whoever has the most money can weasel themselves out of anything. No accountability, no consequences >A court I pay will always say I'm not violating the NAP is what I'm trying to say. again, that sounds like a shitty court that will not last long, won't be recognized, and does not serve the people, only individuals with money. That is corruption, and a clear example of inefficiency >The NAP is way to broadly defined for that. The NAP, while broad in application, is a fairly straightforward principle: was something done aggressively with violence outside self-defense? If you rob a man in daylight, with witnesses, and try to use the money you robbed to purchase a high-tier lawyer, you're still going to lose. No amount of loopholes can go against common sense and concrete evidence that you intentionally robbed a man, taking his money without his consent by the use of force or threat thereof. To say otherwise and say ""oh but the rich always gets away with it haha"" is just speculation not said in good faith that courts favor justice rather than injustice, and that the common man wishes justice than injustice. It's basically an edgy communist mindset that's self-defeating, because in a big government court system those who have the most money/connections already do get the most benefits >If you're a small man you'll always lose against interest of people with more purchasing power Is that an absolute?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496255103 127868648,127911749,2017-05-31 18:25:57,">>127911496 How is your free market giving you a tech edge when your consumerist economy produces people like pic related? Nazi Germany had the best tech by far. Except the A-bomb of course",,Anonymous,1495466278297.jpg,tH2qVixkkWu+vz2oB0Lsag==,US,,1496255157 127868648,127911977,2017-05-31 18:27:39,">>127911749 meanwhile, nationalism",,Anonymous,1479076250028.jpg,DYcjLjSYzrQ6MTjwJfYZFw==,US,,1496255259 127868648,127912456,2017-05-31 18:31:35,">>127911749 I disagree that the free market creates people who dress like dogs and suck dicks, HOWEVER even if that were true they would be the bottom teir of society, being of no value themselves other than being useful idiots for funding smarter stronger people. if you're denying the superior productivity of the market just because it puts people in their place then you're straight out wrong. The smart and strong will prosper. they will build the mcnukes and the trannies will slave to fund it.",,Anonymous,1-56.jpg,IvruVj6py/C4DF+Er0YV/w==,US,,1496255495 127868648,127912582,2017-05-31 18:32:37,">>127910868 >But they would require outside help for such war machines and mercenaries, which means that they depend on non-hostile nations/companies to survive against aggressors How do you know this? What prohibits ancapistan from manufacturing their own arms, weapons, and security measures prior to war or if they anticipate it? >>127910994 if those rich people favor tyranny over freedom, then their property will be seized, assets frozen, and hell raised by the freedom-loving masses and those that still wish to stick to freedom This idea that the rich and free man would intentionally give away his freedom if it means being richer in a tyrannical state is silly. The rich would make so much more money in the long run were he to remain free to do with his money and businesses as he pleases, and the rich in ancapistan would know this. Siding with a government, which imposes rules, regulations, and taxation is clearly going against their interest unless given explicit special favors -- the discovery of which, means that the people can usurp that traitor guilt-free The people are just as committed to freedom as they are committed to making money. Do not assume they would ever trade it away, it is down to the last man, last patriot, to defend this ideal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496255557 127868648,127913156,2017-05-31 18:37:19,">>127912456 People need to be part of something. To be given direction, and purpose, and values. Not everyone is capable of being a fully self-realized, self-actualized individual blazing a path through the free market. Most people are basically sheep that believe what they're told, never challenge social norms, do what authority figures tell them to....etc. And that's not a bad thing, it's how we evolved. These people are meant to fill out the body politic of a unified nation-state. They need to be led, and defended, and have advocates championing their interests in the harsh world. When you strip away all these social support structures they are totally defenseless. Leaving them the blow in the winds of the market like a tattered flag is incredibly cruel, and not even very efficient. When people are left to their own indulgences, they consume themselves with their worst impulses. But give them a purpose, and they strive for high ideals. They can achieve great things",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496255839 127868648,127913164,2017-05-31 18:37:22,">>127911648 Makes sense I could also imagine the accuser and accused both agreeing to a specific court via treaty so that both can be assured the trial will be fair >To say otherwise and say ""oh but the rich always gets away with it haha"" is just speculation not said in good faith that courts favor justice rather than injustice But why should they? If judges are in it for the money? Again, corruption, I know. But how would anyone ever notice? >Is that an absolute? In a society controlled by the free market via currency and only the NAP as a generally accepted rule? probably",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496255842 127868648,127913730,2017-05-31 18:41:50,">>127911749 You are mistaken, friend. People like those are supported by welfare. They are the first to be culled once their state-sponsored degeneracy is cut, and the first to starve or flee once it is made clear that in Ancapistan, it rewards traditionalist values instead of mindless consumerism as people commonly assume. Liberty is freedom to discriminate and judge people. The non-productive, the vile, wicked, and sinful will not last long without employment or state-sponsored social safety nets in addition as far as technology goes, obviously the most innovative are rewarded. Brilliance is not hindered by a state or state regulation. People are free to experiment with whatever dark art usually forbidden by a state -- cloning, genetic engineering, mechanical augmentation, efficiency drugs. The consequences these people face for failure are their own, but the reward for their fruit is for everybody to enjoy once the method and means is perfected and sold. Science will not need grants. It will only need guts, balls, and the brilliance to go with mad experiments for powerful gain. Mechas, super-soldiers, McNukes, these can all be developed within private property free of external meddling",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496256110 127868648,127914536,2017-05-31 18:48:28,">>127912582 Because of human nature, as while there is a national identity, there will still be personal divides between different families in the ancap society, while the state can force said families to cooperate for the good of their nation. While Ancapistan would be able to provide small arms and militarised vehicles for themselves (gotta defend the NAP somehow), the ability for a proper government gives them the power to produce military hardware on a larger scale than any ancap society.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496256508 127868648,127914617,2017-05-31 18:49:02,>>127868648,,Anonymous,state dindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1496256542 127868648,127914619,2017-05-31 18:49:02,">>127913730 But why would you want to cull them? Why not improve them? Put a gun in their hand and send them into the military. Put high ideals, virtues, and morals on their TV screen. Give them leaders to look up to. Bring order and stability to the lives of the bums and the dropouts so that they can become forged into better people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496256542 127868648,127914674,2017-05-31 18:49:31,">>127913156 I agree with everything you said, That's a huge part of why I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist. Forget the word ""anarchy"" it has a connotation that represents disorder. I am a capitalist, This has nothing to do with jewish finance, rich fat guys, or degenerate teen pop-stars. Capitalism is voluntary interaction. (this is important) People have natural tendencies to collectivities, have pride in their race, and create a future for themselves. I think that’s fucking beautiful. Thankfully not here, but in Germanistan Germans are legally punished for being proud of their history, their heritage, racial cohesion. I don’t want to stop people from pursuing their destiny.",,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,US,,1496256571 127868648,127914804,2017-05-31 18:50:32,">>127914674 >collectivize",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496256632 127868648,127914926,2017-05-31 18:51:35,">Nationalist fashies masquerading as Libertarians Sad!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496256695 127868648,127914943,2017-05-31 18:51:42,">>127913164 >But why should they? If judges are in it for the money? more than money is on the line. Reputation is one clear example. >But how would anyone ever notice? if a court consistently favors special interest people, do you think the unjustly and unfairly treated will just sit back and let it happen? they will tell the world and go to a different, fairer court. Providing justice is just the most ideal long-term system, rather than a short-term cash bribe >in a society controlled by the free market via currency and only the NAP as a generally accepted rule? I disagree. In fact, will venture enough to say that the small man is given better treatment because he has the recognized potential to be just as wealthy someday, instead of condemning people to arbitrary class warfare. I'm not denying that the rich may have a slight edge, but to say that the poor man is completely, absolutely, and utterly hopeless is nonsense. Truth does not favor money, it favors reality, and the evidence will speak for themselves. No amount of lawyers can allow a man to rob others in broad daylight despite how wealthy he may be. A lot of the flaws in modern court systems, like constant appointments, processing, loopholes, shitty services in accordance to THEIR laws, or other greedy mechanism for the state to steal more money from people from more bureaucracy are simply disposed of so that actual justice can be swiftly and clearly delivered. The state benefits from a shitty court system because they make more money from it without consequences, knowing that other people can't go anywhere else. A private court system can't afford to be just as shitty in the long-term, because people can go elsewhere to who can do it better. That's what modern court systems fear: that justice can be done quicker, easier, and without all the hassle towards results all parties can agree with.This drives them mad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496256702 127868648,127915165,2017-05-31 18:53:32,">>127913730 >but the reward for their fruit is for everybody to enjoy once the method and means is perfected and sold except the people that are left behind by the system right? I mean, fuck you are talking about wiping out humanity through transhumanism. this isn't good for anybody >>127914674 I don't think you're anarcho, but you may be a capitalist. I have arguments with the capitalist economic model as well",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496256812 127868648,127915274,2017-05-31 18:54:30,">>127914926 only /leftypol/ users do the >Sad! meme. change your meta already.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496256870 127868648,127915940,2017-05-31 18:59:23,">>127914943 makes sense actually thanks for the input!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496257163 127868648,127916155,2017-05-31 19:01:06,">>127914536 >the state can force said families to cooperate for the good of their nation. is this an absolute? are you telling me that families who don't cooperate with the state just give up and don't try to find a way around that? The state is not a god. It's flaws can be exploited by anyone, and that hurts the common man the most. >While Ancapistan would be able to provide small arms and militarised vehicles for themselves (gotta defend the NAP somehow), the ability for a proper government gives them the power to produce military hardware on a larger scale than any ancap society. How do you know this? Is it an absolute that a government ALWAYS has more power to produce military hardware on a large scale than any ancap society? Ancap societies fare economically better than any other system. With that in mind, some of this economic gains can and will absolutely be directed towards defense. Small arms and a few vehicles isn't seeing the big picture: Private military opens the possibility for masses upon masses of high-tech equipment for ground, air, and sea, produced the same way from private companies. The knowledge is still there, it's not lost just because it's Ancap. With more resources from a free economy, that means more resources for war. Not just with trading, but in domestic production. People can form temporary contracts to coordinate with each other to minimize any kind of communication inefficiency. As I've said, the people (corporations and businesses included) can join together if it means protecting their homeland. This includes producing the necessary arms and security, state-of-the-art training, firearms, missiles, tanks, planes, ships, etc. included.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496257266 127868648,127916176,2017-05-31 19:01:21,">>127915940 it makes sense, and yet it's wrong. I've been a libertarian, the issue here is in their premises Their analysis of human nature is wrong, that's why their model for society is wrong. They are latching onto one single element of human nature: ""humans are greedy"", while ignoring the rest. Yes we are greedy, but there's a lot more going on there. We are tribal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496257281 127868648,127916197,2017-05-31 19:01:30,">>127915274 >Implying I'm a regular /pol/ user of any stripe Occassionally pop round when I'm bored of seeing retarded leftists and want to see retarded nationalists",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496257290 127868648,127916567,2017-05-31 19:04:39,">>127916176 >we are greedy, but there's a lot more going on there maybe it seems like hmans are super greedy because todays system actually encourages it",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496257479 127868648,127916645,2017-05-31 19:05:26,">>127915165 I am pure capitalist. No state needed. I rambled a bit and didn’t get to the practicality of the matter. Don’t mistake a capitalist society as structureless or chaotic. There are natural elites. Some people are a cut above the rest, they will own the land and call the shots. People who do nothing but suck dog dicks and smoke weed all day will never contribute anything to society. And they will suffer because of it. Capitalism is forced altruism, If you don’t give me things I find valuable you will starve, you won’t be able to afford land and so you will have to live on someone else's property, under their law. Obviously sucking dog dicks contributes nothing to society and no one will pay you to smoke weed. Infact weed and dogdick cost money. Even harder to attain if you don't own property and have no skills. The market isn’t nice, it hates worthless fucks. The market does however LOVE people who work together, and engage in interactions that people naturally find valuable. Anarcho-Capitalism is the ultimate ends of Natural Law and Consequentialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496257526 127868648,127916712,2017-05-31 19:06:00,">>127916197 I wasn't imply that, I was implying that you're a shit-lib.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496257560 127868648,127916818,2017-05-31 19:06:49,">>127916155 >Is it an absolute that a government ALWAYS has more power to produce military hardware on a large scale than any ancap society? I mean, no, obviously the mass majority of the population probably has more firepower than any government. But their actions aren't coordinated, they are rabble. They would get chewed to pieces by an actual military force with a structured command heirarchy The Romans used to fight massive barbarian armies 10 times the size of their legions. And yet, they'd chew through them like butter. Because they had coordinated tactics, plans, and procedures, and the others mostly had homemade weaponry and no clear command strucure This is an expression of a larger principle. In certain cases, structured group action will dominate any collection of uncoordinated individuals",,Anonymous,Boudica's downfall.png,RHEmOfWGIA12Za1mlArSdQ==,US,,1496257609 127868648,127917278,2017-05-31 19:11:04,">>127916712 Nah I'm an ACTUAL libertarian, not a nationalist who jumped on when he realised libertarianism would let him be racist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496257864 127868648,127917317,2017-05-31 19:11:27,">>127912582 >This idea that the rich and free man would intentionally give away his freedom if it means being richer in a tyrannical state is silly. People signing away their freedom in the hope of being more prosperous is exactly how authoritarian regimes come to power. Those who put principles before material gain are the exception rather than the rule. You appear to have a communist-level idealistic view of human nature.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496257887 127868648,127917362,2017-05-31 19:11:51,">>127868648 kys findom cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496257911 127868648,127917792,2017-05-31 19:15:17,">>127868648 I think Ted counts as a libertarian, should add him to the approved list if you ask me.",,Anonymous,Kaczynski3.jpg,GUYWoAWKVMWLtEIfRTbZ5w==,CA,,1496258117 127868648,127917967,2017-05-31 19:16:54,">>127917278 No racially mixed society can be a healthy society, you sound like some kind of anarchist cuck.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496258214 127868648,127918045,2017-05-31 19:17:37,">>127916645 I'm not debating that we shouldn't have a free market. I agree with this in principle But you are missing something here, something very important. There needs to be more than just a market, you need social structures, institutions, militaries....etc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496258257 127868648,127918083,2017-05-31 19:18:01,">>127917278 yeah, whatever. racism is pretty cool. shit-lib.",,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,US,,1496258281 127868648,127918140,2017-05-31 19:18:33,,,Anonymous,rm0mcm.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1496258313 127868648,127918192,2017-05-31 19:19:01,">>127914619 >But why would you want to cull them? Because some people can't be improved. They're broken, self-destructive people -- that's what makes them true degenerates, and that's what leads some of them to NEED the state in order to continue living because they simply cannot function anywhere else. Certainly, we can offer degenerates employment, opportunity, and rehabilitation services IF they choose to give up their habits. But if they don't, if they insist on being degenerates, they're accepting the full consequences of their own actions. And that means abandoning them completely. >Put a gun in their hand and send them into the military. So you want degenerates leading your men into battle? Commanding them? Using up your precious resources when they continue to be degenerates outside your watchful eternal eye? You can't force people not to be degenerates, that only encourages them to hide it and be degenerates when you're not looking. The state isn't omnipotent, and you only breed corruption within your ranks for closet degenerates instead of pure men of hearts that recognize degeneracy for what it is. >Put high ideals, virtues, and morals on their TV screen. Which they can turn off. >Give them leaders to look up to. Which they can choose to ignore. >Bring order and stability to the lives of the bums and the dropouts so that they can become forged into better people. Which isn't a guarantee. Yes, we can offer them these things, but it cannot be forced so. Some of these bums and dropouts, they choose to be that way. They will only sabotage and waste your efforts. Maybe not immediately upon the first draft, but definitely in the long-term as they become more jaded and resistant to your forceful ways. We can lead horses to water, but not make them drink. The horses that don't drink are to be separated and left to thirst until they choose to drink. Force-feeding them water only makes them more stubborn.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496258341 127868648,127918683,2017-05-31 19:23:20,"You see pic related? It's an actual community, with enforced social norms, codes of conduct, building codes....etc. Imagine if everyone was going their own way, doing there own thing. Instead of something nice like this, you'd see every single house built a totally different style. Every single yard would be totally different. You wouldn't get a nice view like this. Or any unified community spirit. People would start building walls and isolating themselves from each other, like an American suburb",,Anonymous,1487026603481.jpg,l0XPTj8owJ68pNXln4RynQ==,US,,1496258600 127868648,127918901,2017-05-31 19:25:14,"How can you claim that taxation is theft, but profit isn't? It's the same principle. On the one hand, you have government taking a portion of your income. On the other, you have Capitalists taking the surplus value of the worker's labour as profit.",,Anonymous,Anarcho-Syndicalism.jpg,Yjw3Z9EeyREa9EsWeiEqug==,IE,,1496258714 127868648,127918962,2017-05-31 19:25:49,">>127915165 >except the people that are left behind by the system right? The people that are left behind are choosing to be left behind. >you are talking about wiping out humanity through transhumanism. What? I am allowing the possibility of superior people to manifest and act in our interest. If you choose to ignore their possible benefits, that liability is yours, as well as the consequences at losing their perks from cooperation. I don't see how transumanism ""isn't good for anybody"". Obviously it's not good for my enemies, but it benefits my people, and the people that about liberty and freedom from tyranny. Personally, I would want transhumanism to be commercialized and perfected: a race of immortal, ultra-intelligent people is truly a force to be reckoned with. Your hesitation only indicates you're afraid of true power once it arises.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496258749 127868648,127919046,2017-05-31 19:26:35,">>127918683 So you're saying people should form covenants where there's groups of people with similar goals and outlooks on social norms and building codes; and those who don't comply to those are physically removed? Seems like a good idea. I wonder why none of us thought of this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496258795 127868648,127919126,2017-05-31 19:27:13,">>127918192 >some of them to NEED the state in order to continue living because they simply cannot function anywhere else. I agree entirely >So you want degenerates leading your men into battle? Commanding them? Using up your precious resources when they continue to be degenerates outside your watchful eternal eye? the military forges people into leaders, conquerors, and heroes. It turned some penniless failure artist into the fuhrer of Germany. >Which they can turn off. Yeah they can, but they don't. In practice, they eat from the trough that is provided to them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496258833 127868648,127919132,2017-05-31 19:27:16,">>127918045 >you need social structures, institutions, militaries....etc Yes. I know. I think our misunderstanding is in what the state is. after talking to other national socialists and fascists i’ve found that the “state” to you folk is literally an extension of the people. THEY GOVERN THEMSELVES. Which I would have to agree would be a good thing. “The state” as we refer to it, should not be mixed up with what we call “government” we like “government” even if it is used as slang for “the state” “The state” to libertarians like myself is defined by Murray Rothbard in Anatomy of the State. The State is a band of Bankers, Thieves, Murderers and Rapists who distort the natural order. They are evil in practice and intent. They are essentially what you call “the jews” they deny man the right to follow our destiny. TO GOVERN THEMSELVES.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496258836 127868648,127919154,2017-05-31 19:27:26,">>127868648 Is (((Milton Friedman))) /lrg/ approved?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496258846 127868648,127919181,2017-05-31 19:27:36,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496258856 127868648,127919300,2017-05-31 19:28:34,">>127918901 because the capitalists have to pay other people to maintain the macheinery. he doesn't get all the surplus, he just manages it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496258914 127868648,127919358,2017-05-31 19:29:00,">>127916176 People can be both greedy AND tribal. We intend to use that to its fullest advantages for good, instead of wasting it on degeneracy. Above all, Ancap believes first and foremost that people can be rational. The key word here is ""can"", because those that ""can't"", are pruned and abandoned for inefficiency. >>127916818 >But their actions aren't coordinated are you implying that people can't be coordinated in Ancap? Already, your ignorance is evident.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496258940 127868648,127919390,2017-05-31 19:29:16,">>127918901 It's voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496258956 127868648,127919468,2017-05-31 19:29:52,">>127919154 yeah, he's our link to the even better Pinochet.",,Anonymous,The_General.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1496258992 127868648,127919632,2017-05-31 19:31:07,">>127919300 Why can't the workers just do that? Why can't the worker take all of the value of his labour and invest however much he wants into maintenance of the business? Why does it have to be a top-down system? >>127919390 >Voluntary So I assume you just love your job, right?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496259067 127868648,127919736,2017-05-31 19:31:58,">>127917317 >You appear to have a communist-level idealistic view of human nature. Nonsense. I anticipate that some people put material gain above principles, and with that there is action accordingly. I don't expect every piece to magically fall together perfectly. I pick up the pieces that work, and keep them separate from the pieces that are broken. And I then I strengthen the working pieces as much as I can. Those that betray Ancapistan would not be forgotten, and the consequences of their actions will be made clear along with its execution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496259118 127868648,127919798,2017-05-31 19:32:40,">>127919046 yeah I know, it's called a community >>127918962 >The people that are left behind are choosing to be left behind. No they aren't. They don't have the drive to be self-realized people, they need someone leading them and showing them the way. They are like geese without a formation to fly in. Or like a private without a sergeant >If you choose to ignore their possible benefits I'm not ignoring them, I'm saying that we need to ensure that it truly does work for OUR benefit. You could replace all of humanity with some superior genetically engineered species of post-human, but why would you want to do that? I care about a future for humans >THEY GOVERN THEMSELVES. Been to a trailer park recently? Cops practically need a permanent stakeout to maintain order",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496259160 127868648,127919949,2017-05-31 19:34:13,">>127919632 >So I assume you just love your job, right? Yes, I get money to live from it and choose to do so. Don't try twist the meaning of voluntary, you dumbass leftist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496259253 127868648,127920026,2017-05-31 19:34:52,">>127919358 >People can be both greedy AND tribal Exactly my point. We are not just greedy, we are also tribal. If you base your entire philosophy of governance around one aspect of human nature and ignore the rest, your society is classified as utopian. It won't work in practice >are you implying that people can't be coordinated in Ancap? They can be if you try to simulate the state with some kind of weird bizarre system of contracts. But this departs from real humanity, it's pie in the sky stuff. Human beings don't actually operate this way in the real world. We didn't evolve to all be radical individuals carving our own path in the world",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496259292 127868648,127920094,2017-05-31 19:35:30,">>127916155 >Is this an absolute? are you telling me that families who don't cooperate with the state just give up and don't try to find a way around that? I mean, there are two choices to such people within the average state: Accept cooperation, and be rewarded with less hardship in life at the cost of taxation, or rebel against them, being treated as a criminal/terrorist, and having to endure with the threat of the state's police/military searching for you to bring you to their version of justice. And more often than not, bread and circuses beats true freedom and liberty. >How do you know this? Is it an absolute that a government ALWAYS has more power to produce military hardware on a large scale than any ancap society? That depends. In terms of quantity, the masses would be able to outnumber and outgun the armed forces of the government, but in terms of actual quality, especially in the 21st century, the government would be able to stand against the rabble. While the ancap can field a force comparable to Napoleonic armies, they would falter against trained state soldiers who shoot to kill, driving tanks and bombarding their foes with planes. So again, without outside militaristic help via either a non-aggressive government or PMCs, I don't believe that the ancap society would survive in case of a invasion from a aggressive government-ran neighbour.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496259330 127868648,127920132,2017-05-31 19:35:52,">>127919632 >Why can't the workers just do that? They can. They just don't. It probably has to do with the fact that managing industy is hard work and some people would rather do 10 hours of work a day and go home and drink a beer rather than being coked up all the time working 20+ hours and dealing with the stress of running every part of an industry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496259352 127868648,127920358,2017-05-31 19:37:39,>>127914617,,Anonymous,1494944117105.jpg,9GJEOp+gFTK+kgUked70Fw==,FR,,1496259459 127868648,127920715,2017-05-31 19:40:55,">>127919154 mixed feelings because he was positivist but he was far from being the worst",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496259655 127868648,127920769,2017-05-31 19:41:28,">>127919798 >Been to a trailer park recently? The population of a trailer park or an urban hood has nothing to do with the population of society. >Want fascism? ok you have to build it out of rednecks and niggers to prove its validity. not a great point m8, do National Socialists NOT govern themselves? who is the puppet master?",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1496259688 127868648,127920849,2017-05-31 19:42:11,">>127919126 >the military forges people into leaders, conquerors, and heroes. It turned some penniless failure artist into the fuhrer of Germany. that is true, but must be done a voluntary basis. For every penniless failure artists who could become fuhrers, you run the risk of supporting and sustaining countless other failure artists that didn't see the vision of what Germany could really be. You cannot force people into becoming literally hitler. They must decide upon that themselves. >Yeah they can, but they don't. In practice, they eat from the trough that is provided to them. I wasn't saying that what you've suggested wouldn't work, I'm sure plenty of sheep-minded people would follow. But the few that slip through the crack, the few that resist, they must be free to resist and identify themselves so they can be eliminated. Forcibly integrating them only introduces saboteurs and unfaithful soldiers among your ranks. You are recruiting future traitors to the cause. I wish to make this clear: the endgame for NatSoc and the endgame for Ancap may off as surprisingly similar to most people. Degeneracy is punished and not actively promoted within private property. Only the superior peoples breed for only they are capable of gathering the resources to do so without a state. The inferior and degenerate simply cannot compete in this way, and a strong coherent sense of ethnic identity is maintained voluntarily, physically removing dissidents who foolishly reveal themselves. The purity and progress of man is still accomplished instead of the stereotypical hedonist paradise most people assume all of Libertarianism consists of.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496259731 127868648,127921009,2017-05-31 19:43:43,">>127920769 >That pic You do realise Leftists were the original Libertarians, right? In fact,Murray Rothbard bragged about co-opting the term from the Left",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496259823 127868648,127921169,2017-05-31 19:45:11,">>127920132 But the worker in the current Capitalist economy does not receive the full value of his labour. In fact, he doesn't even receive most of it",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496259911 127868648,127921489,2017-05-31 19:48:07,">>127919798 >No they aren't. They don't have the drive to be self-realized people, they need someone leading them and showing them the way. They are like geese without a formation to fly in. Or like a private without a sergeant Absolutely. But the few that actively resist, for you cannot assume all of humanity is so weak-willed, they are the troublesome individuals that must be abandoned not accepted into your society to reap your benefits. They will not show themselves if you are forceful and if you threaten violence, but they WILL show themselves under promise of freedom. They are free to reveal themselves, but we are equally free to reject them and watch them suffer under the weight of their own insolence. >You could replace all of humanity with some superior genetically engineered species of post-human, but why would you want to do that? Not all of humanity, certainly, but I would do it to a large extent if it means they can secure freedom for the few humans that remain. >I care about a future for humans Sometimes I ponder if whether or not it is preferable to remain a beast burdened with biological functionalities, or if ascending to something greater is worth it. Time will tell.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496260087 127868648,127921548,2017-05-31 19:48:46,">>127921009 Yeah, but people associate the term with us now. You guys own ""anarchism"" now.",,Anonymous,RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1496260126 127868648,127921942,2017-05-31 19:52:05,">>127921548 That just sounds like Conservatism to me",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496260325 127868648,127922132,2017-05-31 19:53:37,,,Anonymous,prosper.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,US,,1496260417 127868648,127922186,2017-05-31 19:54:07,"Lads, I think I'm starting to go from an edgy natsoc to an edgy anarcho-capitalist. I bought Hazlit's Economics In One Lesson and Hoppe's Democracy: the god that failed.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496260447 127868648,127922190,2017-05-31 19:54:07,">>127920026 >If you base your entire philosophy of governance around one aspect of human nature and ignore the rest The rest are not ""ignored"". Nothing is ignored. Everything is just voluntary, and the principles are acted on accordingly. >They can be if you try to simulate the state with some kind of weird bizarre system of contracts. And what would be wrong with that? The system is difficult to imagine at first, but naturally inefficiency is phased out if it's not mandatory by a state and a more fluid, functional system would be in place. >But this departs from real humanity, it's pie in the sky stuff. Signing a contract isn't a pie in the sky, nor does it depart from humanity. >Human beings don't actually operate this way in the real world. Why not? >We didn't evolve to all be radical individuals carving our own path in the world Who is this ""we""? I want these ""radical"" individuals who have self-awareness to be voluntarily governing the individuals who lack self-awareness. By carving their own paths in the world, individually they carve meaninglessly. Together, united by freedom, they carve for the benefit of those who agree to join them, and to those that pursue freedom. Tyrants on the other hand, well, as they say: sic semper tyrannis.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496260447 127868648,127922269,2017-05-31 19:54:45,">>127921169 sure, but he can overcome that barrier. He can save his wealth so that it is easier in the future to manage the means of production. I understand your point, that being poor is soul crushing. Life is suffering, we can only try and change our own future by altering the present. the best way to do that is to save resources for later. I want to get into your theory of value/labor, could you try to capsulize the theory for me? >>127921942 it is explicitly conservative, yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496260485 127868648,127922291,2017-05-31 19:54:52,">>127920849 >Only the superior peoples breed for only they are capable of gathering the resources to do so without a state. The inferior and degenerate simply cannot compete in this way The problem with this is that in private property free market capitalism, what's ""superior"" and ""inferior"" is defined completely differently. You are superior if your equity and your capital gains are greater than your competitors. You are inferior if your equity and your capital gains are lesser than your competitors. >a strong coherent sense of ethnic identity is maintained voluntarily You cannot voluntarily convince the future generations to maintain it. The ethnic identity will crumble after the generations that establish your society die off, as ethnic identity doesn't create profit and anyone devoting effort towards it is disadvantaging themselves against the ones who don't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496260492 127868648,127922317,2017-05-31 19:55:06,">>127922132 >""Live free under the boot of government""-Statists >""Live free under the boot of Capitalists""-Right Libertarians >""Live free""-Anarchists",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496260506 127868648,127922589,2017-05-31 19:57:21,">>127922317 >""Live free under the boot of chaos""-Anarchists FTFY",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496260641 127868648,127922667,2017-05-31 19:58:00,>>127922317,,Anonymous,rothbard_exploitation.jpg,AiNOwdl2xEM1almb7MlI3A==,US,,1496260680 127868648,127922772,2017-05-31 19:58:56,">>127922317 If you wanna start you jungle tree huging tribe in a private florest, who's going to stop you?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496260736 127868648,127922837,2017-05-31 19:59:37,">>127922317 are you opposed to all hierarchy? Are you opposed to all inequality?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496260777 127868648,127923027,2017-05-31 20:01:13,">>127922269 Well, it's not *my* theory, but I can expand here for you. The Left-Anarchist critique of wage-labour relations boils down to its core with the idea of surplus value. This is most recognisably the Marxist critique. 'Surplus value' is what we now call profit. Essentially, the worker creates far more in value than he actually receives back from his boss. Say a McDonald's worker produces fifteen burgers in an hour each priced at €2. That's €30 worth of value created in an hour, yet the worker only receive €8 from his boss. That means that the boss has skimmed €22 in profits from the worker's labour. The boss has in effect stolen the labourer's time, as he has a finite life and has put time into making those burgers, most of which he will not get back. So, Anarchists are divided on what to do about this. Some advocate fro the abolition of wage labour, but I disagree. I say we replace it with vouchers. The workers own the means of production, and get vouchers based on the labour value they produce in one hour (hourly ""wage""). The labourer can then choose to invest these coupons into the company if he wants, and he comes away with a lot more value in his pocket either way.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496260873 127868648,127923066,2017-05-31 20:01:33,">>127922589 >chaos is shod in boots",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496260893 127868648,127923115,2017-05-31 20:01:59,">>127922186 Good. Don't stop.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496260919 127868648,127923154,2017-05-31 20:02:29,Panarchist here; why not every man a king?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496260949 127868648,127923155,2017-05-31 20:02:30,">>127920094 >there are two choices to such people within the average state That is a false dichotomy. Cooperation is not ""accepted"" within a state, it is thrusted upon individuals regardless if they care to or not. Dissent is met with violence. That taxation is certainly not ""accepted"", it is a standard imposed on others with a heavy hand. Why not the best of both worlds, and develop a voluntary covenant that rewards less hardship while providing the benefits of freedom? >the government would be able to stand against the rabble. Again, how do you know this? What prohibits this ""rabble"" from developing, producing, and manufacturing the same if not greater military strength than any government? They can form temporary cooperative measures. Cooperation and unity are not problems in time of war. >While the ancap can field a force comparable to Napoleonic armies, they would falter against trained state soldiers who shoot to kill, driving tanks and bombarding their foes with planes And how do you know ancap forces won't have their own trained soldiers, born to shoot to kill, driving tanks, and bombarding their foes with planes? They have the money. They have the time. If war is anticipated, they can definitely mass prepare themselves accordingly just like any nation without having a government. >So again, without outside militaristic help via either a non-aggressive government or PMCs How do you know that these outside militaristic help or non-aggressive government/PMCs are even necessary? An Ancap society can still form the arms necessary to meet opposition, if not exceed them in military prowess. I see nothing that necessarily prohibits this from occuring. >I don't believe that the ancap society would survive in case of a invasion from a aggressive government-ran neighbour. If an Ancap society can see their neighbor amassing for war, they will do the same, if not better. And they will fight to the death, to the last man if it means keeping their freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496260950 127868648,127923311,2017-05-31 20:03:47,">>127923155 >They have the time. If war is anticipated, they can definitely mass prepare themselves accordingly just like any nation without having a government. This works so well in Africa",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261027 127868648,127923363,2017-05-31 20:04:17,">>127922186 >>127923115 After the edgy stages you graduate to pragmatic and philosophical NatSoc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261057 127868648,127923508,2017-05-31 20:05:36,">>127868648 June 10th, Houston TX Antifa are planning to protest the Sam Houston statue at Herman park. Counter demonstations have been planned. goybook dot com events/263150144151714 Remove communists, not statues",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261136 127868648,127923512,2017-05-31 20:05:39,">>127923027 Is it immoral for me to choose to labor for less value than i create? Meaning on my own terms, not like a situation where im fucked and have no choice. Is it wrong to choose less?",,Anonymous,spooks.jpg,6BrAeyae+qoOa+6k3pOEdA==,US,,1496261139 127868648,127923578,2017-05-31 20:06:12,The libertarian party has been infiltrated by a bunch of conservatives.,,Anonymous,,,AR,,1496261172 127868648,127923608,2017-05-31 20:06:30,">>127922186 Anarcho-capitalism is the logical conclusion you reach if you study economic history. Milton Friedman's ideas are really the last chance for an economic argument for the government and they have largely failed too (his son is an anarcho-capitalist fyi). If you consider human nature in any governing idea, you just can't justify having humans centrally control anything. Once you give humans central control of a society, you always see it creep towards an inefficient, corrupt, and authoritarian society that caters to the rich, leaders, and the people with ""connections"". History consistently shows this happening over and over and over again.",,Anonymous,1493902801076.jpg,r+Nir6uGpVlNCLV+bfyI0w==,US,,1496261190 127868648,127923641,2017-05-31 20:06:48,">>127923512 Well, morality is subjective. Some might say yes, and others might say no. It's up to you to decide that.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496261208 127868648,127923716,2017-05-31 20:07:30,">>127923155 Is your theory that for the last 6,000 years of human history, the governments have been oppressing people unnecessarily, since they could have organized voluntary societies on their own that would function and advance at the same or greater level?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261250 127868648,127923740,2017-05-31 20:07:44,">>127923578 and leftist too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261264 127868648,127923741,2017-05-31 20:07:45,">>127923512 >Is it wrong? Is it wrong to sabotage your own interests yes, but not in any abstract moral way. Your question is just a problematic use of language.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261265 127868648,127924160,2017-05-31 20:11:01,">>127923716 That's where I am on the fence to some degree. I think we definitely can implement an Ancap society now (thanks to things like the internet and blockchain); however, I believe it could be argued against more effectively in the past. This doesn't mean that it wouldn't be possible, but I just think it's 1000 times more possible in the modern era.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261461 127868648,127924182,2017-05-31 20:11:12,">>127922291 Yes, but those are superior in capitalism tend to be superior in general no matter how you put it. They have higher IQ, higher drive, are able to better manage resources, cooperate, and plan accordingly to circumstances. You cannot tell me that an inferior degenerate in a capitalism system is somehow the superior ideal man elsewhere. In communism, maybe, because their ideal man IS an inferior man, but that's beside the point. >You cannot voluntarily convince the future generations to maintain it. Why not? Their fathers can teach them. The society can teach them. If they disobey, they are free to do so, but they no longer receive the benefits of what their father and society offered. >The ethnic identity will crumble after the generations that establish your society die off, How do you know this? >as ethnic identity doesn't create profit and anyone devoting effort towards it is disadvantaging themselves against the ones who don't. But ethnic identity DOES create profit. It's not profitable in the slightest to introduce people to management who aren't accustomed to your ways or similar to your values -- they would be massively incompetent, and is largely why affirmative-action hiring doesn't work. Niggers and degenerates simply don't share the same values as successful people. That's not to say that you can't still trade with shitskins, but you're not accepting their ethnic identity. You're just trading. A strong ethnic identity that incorporates capitalism, that is one that will prosper.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261472 127868648,127924446,2017-05-31 20:13:31,">>127924160 Humans are evolving to be far less violent as time goes on as well (there was a study over this a few years ago). That also helps support the idea that an ancap society would be best in modern times.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261611 127868648,127924448,2017-05-31 20:13:34,">>127923311 >niggers what else did you expect No system can redeem those savages without outside intervention. They're a lost cause, but good for resources with the few smart enough willing to trade",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261614 127868648,127924573,2017-05-31 20:14:30,">>127923741 I do mean in an abstact moral way. Do not have a sense of morality? Is your worldview materialistic, meaning no meta-physics, no abstract consciousness. Just matter?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261670 127868648,127924607,2017-05-31 20:14:49,">>127923608 And national socialism is the logical conclusion once you study all the other aspects of human society as well, instead of just economics. >you just can't justify having humans centrally control anything I can justify it by pointing out how that system is still more efficient than any others we've come up with. Hence WHY that pattern of creeping towards inefficiency and corruption over and over again exists all throughout history whilst your system doesn't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261689 127868648,127924639,2017-05-31 20:15:02,">>127924448 In an ancap society you just buy all their property from them (if they own any) and then they'd have to go back to Africa. Problem solved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261702 127868648,127924773,2017-05-31 20:16:05,">>127923027 This idea is backwards because you're not paid for the actual hours you work nor a work is as valueable as others. The production of holes on the road with fists would require many hours of work but who would buy this? We have tools today that makes this job easier, but these tools requires the worker, or his boss, to buy them. If they can buy them, it's because these tools were already done in the first place and they have the savings needed to buy these tools. To make tools you need investment. Investment comes from savings or the profit of another investment, the farthest you go back and more investments you see with savings. To save money is a choice of not buying something now to have more avaiable in the future. But the consumer might not accept this service because he doesn't gives value to a street full of holes. Even if he finds a consumer, it is not the hours of work that he works that gives value to his work but the will of the consumer. The guy who makes haburguers didn't made the investments. That's why he works there as an employee. Which part of this story is not fair?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496261765 127868648,127924788,2017-05-31 20:16:12,">>127924607 That may be true. We'd just have to try both out in a similar area and see the results.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261772 127868648,127924859,2017-05-31 20:16:49,">>127923716 Yes, they technically could of, but Ancap requires to a degree the intelligence enough for enough rational people in charge. Not to mention, the technological tools needed for it to be efficient. I'm not denying that the state has played an important role in history. What I object however, is if in the modern day such a burden is to continue indefinitely. I'm no revisionist. I look forward, not back.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496261809 127868648,127925497,2017-05-31 20:22:21,">>127924639 oh please like those niggers will even recognize property rights like that. They will chimp out if their leader sells land to help their people because their land is now suddenly owned by da white man best to just cut government-sponsored foreign aid and let them die until enough intelligent resource niggers survive to finally cooperate in the interest of their people. You have no idea how bad foreign-aid has been in enabling these niggers to continue nigging. It's like welfare on a continental-level",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496262141 127868648,127925650,2017-05-31 20:23:29,">>127924773 You're operating under the assumption that only a boss can invest. Why can't workers invest by taking all of the value of their production? Why does the surplus value have to move up a hierarchy to a guy at the top before investment can be made? It's not as if more money is generated out of thin air as it moves up the hierarchy. It's the same amount in profits. It's just a matter of cutting out the middle man",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496262209 127868648,127925696,2017-05-31 20:23:59,">>127923155 >That is a false dichotomy. Cooperation is not ""accepted"" within a state, it is thrusted upon individuals regardless if they care to or not. It's still a binary-ish decision, to either work within the government's rules, or to go against them. You could have someone violate someone else's NAP by driving through their lands without permission, but if the former was driving a tank, and the latter only has non-AP small arms, he would have to accept said NAP being violated in order to not be murdered to trying to violate their own NAP of being able to live life. >And how do you know ancap forces won't have their own trained soldiers, born to shoot to kill, driving tanks, and bombarding their foes with planes? Because what's to stop them from forcing their demands upon the other ancaps? They would have a advantage over the average Ancapistan civilian, which they could use to exploit them for wealth, with no need to repay them somehow like with governments and taxation. Even if the ancaps did agree to take out this trained brigand, it would basically be the tall poppy syndrome, preventing them from having a strong army-esqe militia. >How do you know that these outside militaristic help or non-aggressive government/PMCs are even necessary? Because, even if the ancap militia is well armed and well trained, it is always worth having some aid against the enemy state. It is always better to ensure that victory is easier to gain for you than for your foe.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496262239 127868648,127925760,2017-05-31 20:24:26,">>127924182 >Why not? Because the child can't voluntarily receive those lessons from his father or from society. If you somehow manage to instill that process into a society, it's no different than the indoctrination in the state-owned schools in NatSoc. >How do you know this? Because I'm watching it happen in my country right now. Profits have taken precedence over ethnicity, and now the ethnicity is on its deathbed. >It's not profitable in the slightest to introduce people to management who aren't accustomed to your ways or similar to your values It doesn't have to be management. Look at the plantation economy of the South pre-civil war. >A strong ethnic identity that incorporates capitalism It won't prosper as much as one that incorporates a system that doesn't needlessly handicap it. There is so much potential thrown away in capitalism on the premise that people who aren't ""successful"" obviously just aren't cut out for it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496262266 127868648,127925951,2017-05-31 20:26:12,">>127924788 Actually that's a pretty great idea. That way whichever one doesn't work as well can get rescued by the one that works best.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496262372 127868648,127926052,2017-05-31 20:27:08,">>127925497 They could be forcibly removed from private property that is not theirs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496262428 127868648,127926126,2017-05-31 20:27:43,">>127924788 I'd be fine with a part of the US being designated as territory for an ancap society. As long as it remains 100% voluntary and we can make sure anyone who wants to leave is given the means to. That'd go for the children as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496262463 127868648,127926469,2017-05-31 20:30:39,">>127926126 NatSoc should move to europe, it is the white homeland after all. America is the homeland of liberty!",,Anonymous,1494465323338.png,MJI4Yg7Nh8FhQCrSjBUwIQ==,US,,1496262639 127868648,127926894,2017-05-31 20:34:23,">>127870846 What about ""The Great Southern Genocide"" by Augustus Sol Invictus",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496262863 127868648,127926996,2017-05-31 20:35:16,">>127926469 I'm afraid not. Homeland doesn't matter much in this regard, even though I know a lot of NatSocs are the isolationist type.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496262916 127868648,127927147,2017-05-31 20:36:33,">>127925650 All savings came from investments. What happened is that there was a time when no one hired anyone(in the market) and the first profit were being made out of commerce of agricultural goods, for example. So, this farmer got his money after selling his goods and he did it for a fair amount of time. He saved a lot from this, delaying reward he could have with this money. Then, he finally did something with his money, he bought a larger farm and hired 4 guys to do the job in his farm and he paid them a wage. >Why can't workers invest by taking all of the value of their production? Because the farmer made the investment FIRST, therefore, the farm and the tools he has is his property. But, being smart, he knows he can hire 4 guys and they can do the job and produce a larger amount of goods and have a larger profit. Since all the employees agreed with this, it is clear that a wage is not unfair. >Why does the surplus value have to move up a hierarchy to a guy at the top before investment can be made? Our farmer in this case had the idea that buying a farm and hiring 4 guys would result in profit, the profit is not guaranteed. He made the investment first, he took this risk. If he decided to have beans instead of rice, he make the investment first, he doesn't know the price of the goods being produced now in the future. Despite this, the workers are being paid for their work now. If the farmer fails and the price of the beans isn't enough to cover his costs, he will be bankrupt. In this case he will likely fire the workers or maybe rent his farm.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496262993 127868648,127927348,2017-05-31 20:38:19,redpill me on natural monopolies.,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496263099 127868648,127927564,2017-05-31 20:40:13,">>127925696 >You could have someone violate someone else's NAP by driving through their lands without permission, but if the former was driving a tank, and the latter only has non-AP small arms, he would have to accept said NAP being violated in order to not be murdered to trying to violate their own NAP of being able to live life. I can sort of see the thought process behind this, yes, but during a time of war things are different. I'm certain that the person's NAP violated to protect the NAP could receive compensation after war, especially if it is written exactly so according to the signed contracts. >Because what's to stop them from forcing their demands upon the other ancaps? They would have a advantage over the average Ancapistan civilian, which they could use to exploit them for wealth, with no need to repay them somehow like with governments and taxation If they break the NAP, then the others will be quick to neutralize them as a threat. People can arm themselves to the teeth if they wished; if they exercise it however, is a completely different matter. >Even if the ancaps did agree to take out this trained brigand, it would basically be the tall poppy syndrome, preventing them from having a strong army-esqe militia. I don't see how this leads to them not having a strong military force. Just because you have a gun, doesn't mean you have to use it outside self-defense. People arming themselves doesn't necessarily mean they will use their firearms maliciously or to oppress other people. If they do, well, then there's consequences. >Because, even if the ancap militia is well armed and well trained, it is always worth having some aid against the enemy state. It is always better to ensure that victory is easier to gain for you than for your foe. There's no denying that, but you make it seem as if it is an absolute necessity. It may help, sure, but could an ancap society hold its own? Absolutely.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496263213 127868648,127927678,2017-05-31 20:41:11,">>127926996 so we'll both be in america and the muslims will get to rape Europe. You guys gotta go back and save them. Homeland is important. You don't understand how much america means to us. American Nationalism is Libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496263271 127868648,127927690,2017-05-31 20:41:16,">>127926469 Yep, this works for me. >On a side note, I think the vastly different origin of the USA is the main reason why US right-wingers are almost all libertarians and EU right-wingers are almost all NatSoc.",,Anonymous,1495604764280.png,pTUXJPas35aEdCBWmxytYg==,US,,1496263276 127868648,127927717,2017-05-31 20:41:29,">>127927147 To be clear: the farmer has the possibility of profit but also the possibility of loss.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496263289 127868648,127927756,2017-05-31 20:41:44,">>127925760 >it's no different than the indoctrination in the state-owned schools in NatSoc. The child, after growing up, can freely reject whatever is taught to them. That is freedom. >Profits have taken precedence over ethnicity, and now the ethnicity is on its deathbed. Yes, and what feeds this machine? What backs up this self-destructive profit? The state that reinforces, propagates, regulates, subsidizes, buy-outs, and support such degeneracy on a national level as well as the essentially state-sponsored media that brainwashes the masses into accepting it. The problem is not profit, it is government seeking to establish greater reign and control from having diversity quotas, affirmative-action, welfare, and other shenanigans like climate change to harden its grip on the free man. >It doesn't have to be management. Look at the plantation economy of the South pre-civil war. Slavery is inherently against the NAP because people didn't voluntarily agree to it. The pre-civil war South is a poor example. >people who aren't ""successful"" obviously just aren't cut out for it. People who are successful are successful for a reason. >>127926052 true, but that just leads to more pointless nigger wars because they will never act in their best interest and just fucking cooperate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496263304 127868648,127927887,2017-05-31 20:42:56,">>127927678 >American Nationalism is Libertarian This sums it up better then I did.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496263376 127868648,127927901,2017-05-31 20:43:03,">>127880975 >tries to debunk anarcho-capitalism >describes anarcho-capitalism as a natural state kek! you're wrong, minarchism is the natural state. anyone with coins is bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496263383 127868648,127928145,2017-05-31 20:45:18,">>127924859 Looking back's important before you look forward. I'm approaching it from a Darwinian point of view. If the state is a burden like you say, why has it persisted so absolutely? In every other case, less efficient systems get replaced by improvements, and this is how human civilization's advanced. Like from tribes to city-states to kingdoms and empires.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496263518 127868648,127928411,2017-05-31 20:47:46,">>127896668 Completing: Van Dun, Spooner, Molinari, Kuehnelt-Leddihn, Nozick, Bertrand de Jouvenel, (((Raymond Aron))), Böhm-Bawerk, Cantillon (The true founder of modern economic science, much superior to adam shitmith), Kinsela, Juan de Mariana, Thomas Woods, Mallock, H L Mencken, Voegelin",,Anonymous,149075225558.jpg,HLAK5FZlzttD6bGPihhk8w==,BR,,1496263666 127868648,127928965,2017-05-31 20:52:55,>>127927887,,Anonymous,muslims.jpg,gHp4L+ioULqCNioUtbO/8A==,US,,1496263975 127868648,127929183,2017-05-31 20:55:08,"Co(27),V(23),Fe(26),Fe(26) 2+7+2+3=14 2+6=8 2+6=8 1488! Now some pasta I liked from an earlier thread Covfefe, broken into its chemical numbers, and put on google, brings you an article about the genetic make-up of Frog's gender, that is somehow related to Dawkins' Selfish Genes, which was where the concept of memes was born. So it's an artile about the memetic of frogs, that opposes the SJW conclusions that there is not such thing as genes (and therefore: that memes don't exist: the war between the Alt-right and SJWS is not about our genetic condition, it's about Meme magic!) When put on Bing, the same number brings to a video of Chemical Romance, which in turn serves as a corroboration of the chemical hypothesis that led this research. The song, obviously, is about Time-travel and the birth of a Saviour of the broken. Now, the article was posted the very same day Obama visited Hiroshima, and covfefe was posted the night one of Hiroshima's most famous victim died. Trump is trying to tell us something about the nuclear armaageddon. Remember: in september 2017: the Vurgin constellation will have twelve stars above her head, the moon and the sun on her feet, and Jupiter ( King of Kings aka Jesus) on her womb, an event that hasn't occured in 5000 Years. This is the exact same configuration as the one descibed in Revalations. And what is the name of this event? The Bible calls it: The day Of the Trumps. It is also known as Armageddon, whose name comes from Meggido: who was the god of the people of Meggido, where the last battle of Good vs Evil, the Trump of the Angels versus Satan will take place? According to the Bible, that god is called MOAB. Which is the name of the Bomb Trump used to destroy IS once and for all. Think of it as you will, but think freely.",,Anonymous,1496257905935.png,su5PJP2aIYAnIful+gYKaw==,US,,1496264108 127868648,127929245,2017-05-31 20:55:39,">>127928145 >If the state is a burden like you say, why has it persisted so absolutely? Because like from a Darwinian point of view, things lasts until it doesn't. That time is now. >In every other case, less efficient systems get replaced by improvements, and this is how human civilization's advanced. Precisely why Democracy and the state must be disposed of. >Like from tribes to city-states to kingdoms and empires. Yes, from Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy. It's a clear tale of moral and economic folly and decay. There is a trend in history, and that is more freedom is granted as time progresses. We are now at the point of democracy, of soft communism after an age where relevant people seriously and unironically considered the possibility of hard communism. Instead, the hour is coming upon us, where we must progress towards the next step of not just greater clarified economic efficiency, but the next step in freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496264139 127868648,127929279,2017-05-31 20:56:00,>>127879506,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496264160 127868648,127929689,2017-05-31 20:59:57,">>127870914 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEiQMpfRQzk >physical hoppe although it's short, pls add this gem to song lost",,Anonymous,remove yourself.png,rM9LtNLIDaRqWNQB8V0GoQ==,BE,,1496264397 127868648,127929822,2017-05-31 21:01:06,">>127927564 >People arming themselves doesn't necessarily mean they will use their firearms maliciously or to oppress other people. But others may take it as a threat, who would take up arms and strike against them preemptively in order to defend their own NAP from possible infringement, or cause a arms race which would increase inter-societal tension between the ancaps until the former happens. >There's no denying that, but you make it seem as if [outside aid] is an absolute necessity. It may help, sure, but could an ancap society hold its own? Well, I will say it depend on those who are invading. An oppressive dictatorship ran by warlording 'niggers' might collapse into itself if they attempted a invasion, but any state that has the means to fuel the engine of war from their own resources, even if smaller than the Ancapistan, will succeed in wiping their freedom away under a properly united standing army, especially if its people have no objection to war against the ancaps.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496264466 127868648,127929973,2017-05-31 21:02:31,">>127929689 THIS IS NOW A LIBERTARIAN MUSIC THREAD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNmZCSFGeco",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496264551 127868648,127930049,2017-05-31 21:03:14,">>127928145 >why has it persisted so absolutely? Because most people are little more than well trained herd animals who are unwilling and/or unable to think for themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496264594 127868648,127930533,2017-05-31 21:07:53,">>127927756 And does your Ancap society tolerate free discussion of ideas? If so, how is that any different from what you're talking about with our people being brainwashed today? Is it not both freedom? The government can be lax on illegal immigration but it isn't making the companies hire those illegals. >The pre-civil war South is a poor example. It's not about the slavery itself, it's about how they prioritized making money over having a white society. That's the mindset that capitalism fosters. >People who are successful are successful for a reason. Yes, for example: Because they were born to rich parents. Or because they had someone in their family who owned a local business. Or because they were willing to destroy other people's lives to further themselves. You understand now? These are ""successful"" people in capitalism. In NatSoc, they are not, and that is the critical distinction that makes it more efficient.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496264873 127868648,127930800,2017-05-31 21:10:08,">>127929973 I don't understand anything he says but Brazilian ancaps sound badass as fuck",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1496265008 127868648,127930847,2017-05-31 21:10:25,">>127929822 >But others may take it as a threat, who would take up arms and strike against them preemptively Arming oneself is not a threat. It''s a freedom for them to do so. Striking preemptively however, almost always breaks the NAP and there are consequences. >cause a arms race I see nothing wrong with this. People arming themselves is a good thing. It's their god-given, unalienable freedom to self-defense and to ownership. >which would increase inter-societal tension between the ancaps until the former happens How do you know that it would ""increase inter-societal tension""? People arming themselves is freedom. It is to be expected. You would be a fool not to arm yourself. >any state that has the means to fuel the engine of war from their own resources, even if smaller than the Ancapistan, will succeed in wiping their freedom away under a properly united standing army I am sorry, but again I must ask: How do you know this, and is it an absolute? Ancapistan can arm herself just fine, and would be more than ready mass enough military means to repel invasion. I see no reason whatsoever, why it can't have or exceed, the military capabilities of other modern nations. Tanks, plans, ships, battlecruisers, bombers, etc. these can all be manufactured and developed independently of a state. It just comes down to the money, and if you are saying that a state is more efficient in managing money than a society made to be as efficient as possible with money, you would be dead wrong. Perhaps this has to be proven in actual war between an Ancap society and a state, and we'll cross that bridge when we get there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496265025 127868648,127930992,2017-05-31 21:11:40,">>127868648 What a shit image to use as the OP for a Libertarian thread. You don't fucking kill people just because they're leftists. My philosophy is ""leave me alone and I'll leave you alone""; you wanna be a commie leftist, fucking go for it, it's your right, exercise it as much as you want as long as you don't actively fuck up the lives of anyone else. Just having a different ideology is not justification for murder. That is the opposite of Libertarianism. As long as they're not hurting anyone, live and let live. I'm not gonna police or interfere with anyone else's behaviors or lives unless they're interfering with my own. in b4 I'm called some leftist cuck for defending this extremely basic pillar of Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,d98.jpg,ZTszzsjeaRz+uZskRsDWRg==,US,,1496265100 127868648,127931373,2017-05-31 21:14:45,">>127929245 >Precisely why Democracy and the state must be disposed of. Democracy of course. The state? You've yet to prove how it's less efficient. You say the time is now but I see nothing that indicates this. >There is a trend in history, and that is more freedom is granted as time progresses. Have you noticed how that trend has progressed side by side with the trend of multiculturalism and degeneracy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496265285 127868648,127931632,2017-05-31 21:17:06,">>127930049 Well put",,Anonymous,1491354355411.jpg,HvGX+3L2qsKwWq+ABrAv2g==,US,,1496265426 127868648,127932042,2017-05-31 21:20:54,">>127930533 >And does your Ancap society tolerate free discussion of ideas? Absolutely. >how is that any different from what you're talking about with our people being brainwashed today? Because we can restrict such discussion of ideas within our own private property. If they want commie TV, they'll have to move to a place that offers it (good luck with that). >Is it not both freedom? We have as much freedom to offer as much as the free to reject. That is freedom. >it's about how they prioritized making money over having a white society. They had to make do with the limited tools and systems they had in order for their society to exist in the first place. There is no doubt in my mind that the CSA would have eventually abolished slavery on its own, in their own terms, and adopt new machinery and efficient methods given enough time. Obviously having a white society is a natural result of this development, especially if Lincoln wasn't assassinated so he could of sent the niggers back to Africa. >That's the mindset that capitalism fosters. Capitalism does not foster profit for the sake of it; this is a common misconception. Doing do would just be self-destructive, as not all profit is acquired the same way. What Capitalism fosters is long-term prosperity and mutual gain. Being recklessly capitalist will not make you a capitalist for very long if what you're providing isn't a service the people genuinely want or need, and that means generating wealth. It seems you think that capitalism neglects the needs of the people, or the values distilled within a nation and ethnicity. On the contrary, it is those same values that make capitalism what it is and what keeps it sustained, because without such values the business would perform poorly and drive itself out. A white society IS capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496265654 127868648,127932485,2017-05-31 21:24:54,">>127930533 >Because they were born to rich parents. Not all rich people have rich parents. And even if they do, they won't stay rich very long in a couple of generations if their children are spoiled brats who don't share the same values, drive, and ambitious as their parents to continue generating/retain such wealth and luxury lifestyle. >Or because they had someone in their family who owned a local business. Which can still fail. >Or because they were willing to destroy other people's lives to further themselves. Awfully ambiguous and subject to interpretation. Nobody's life can be destroyed by capitalism alone -- people tend to destroy their own lives from their own poor decisions made voluntarily, blaming external circumstances instead. >You understand now? These are ""successful"" people in capitalism. Yes. Successful people in capitalism are still successful for a reason. >In NatSoc, they are not, and that is the critical distinction that makes it more efficient. So you admit that in NatSoc, you are putting incompetent people in charge? That doesn't seem be neither efficient nor practical in the long run.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496265894 127868648,127932649,2017-05-31 21:26:21,">>127931373 >You say the time is now but I see nothing that indicates this. Study economics. >Have you noticed how that trend has progressed side by side with the trend of multiculturalism and degeneracy? Yes, I have, and have you also noticed that multiculturalism and degeneracy is sponsored, fed, clothed, and given jobs by a state?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496265981 127868648,127933550,2017-05-31 21:34:54,">>127930847 >How do you know that it would ""increase inter-societal tension""? People arming themselves is freedom. It is to be expected. Because, provided there is history of people exploiting their superior power to violate NAPs, which of course will 100% happen in an ancap society, some people would be fearful of neighbours having superior weaponry. All it takes is a NAP violation to cause the area around the arms race to devolve into total war, especially if one of them is trigger-happy like that in the memes. >I am sorry, but again I must ask: How do you know this, and is it an absolute? Because, at least to me, the idea that a ancap society being able to produce things like McNukes, iBattleships that can stand up against a state's military feels too much like fanfic bullshit. If a ancap society does form in reality, it's 99% going to be a agriculture-focused nation, given how it would allow the civilians of such a nation to survive without the utter reliance of other people. While Ancapistan might be able to supply the manpower for war, they would require more industrial, friendly nations and companies to be able to gain the heavy weapons and tools of war to fight against a enemy state. But all this is just 'what if's, since as you said: >Perhaps this has to be proven in actual war between an Ancap society and a state, and we'll cross that bridge when we get there.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496266494 127868648,127934486,2017-05-31 21:43:25,">>127932042 Then you have to believe Ancap is OBJECTIVELY the best system if you think the idea will survive more than a few generations. Objectively, meaning no arguments on morality, nothing about ""freedom"". And not best in an overall sense, nothing about ""long-term prosperity"", but best for the immediate well-being of all the individual people that make up your society. Is this the case? >Because we can restrict such discussion of ideas within our own private property. But you don't, you said. >They had to make do with the limited tools and systems they had in order for their society to exist in the first place. What was threatening the existence of their society? Unrestricted competition, on the geopolitical scale, which is equivalent here to the free market on the economical scale. Their survival was dependent on earning more profit, and so they prioritized earning more profit over what would otherwise have been more valuable: a homogeneous white society. This format exists everywhere in capitalism. ""I would sure love to stay at home and raise my children, but the economy's tough at the moment—those darned ups and downs—so I have to help my husband at work, otherwise our business will go under and my beautiful white children won't be able to afford an education."" >Obviously having a white society is a natural result of this development That's a pretty bold assumption, considering niggers weren't used just for picking cotton. >Capitalism does not foster profit for the sake of it. No, for the sake of survival. Until you reach a point where you have enough capital that your survival is secured. But more capital = more security, so why stop if you're already rolling? >if what you're providing isn't a service the people genuinely want or need What the people ""genuinely"" want is rarely in the interests of society. And services provided by a free market process don't meet the needs of ""the people"", only the ones that can purchase.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496267005 127868648,127934512,2017-05-31 21:43:34,">>127933550 >provided there is history of people exploiting their superior power to violate NAPs, which of course will 100% happen in an ancap society, I can't help but say it. How do you know this, and is this an absolute? >some people would be fearful of neighbours having superior weaponry. Then they are free to leave. >All it takes is a NAP violation to cause the area around the arms race to devolve into total war, especially if one of them is trigger-happy like that in the memes. How could it go into total war, when other members of society gang up to neutralize the person breaking the peace? He would be quickly outnumbered, and quickly outgunned for violating the NAP no matter how trigger-happy he is. >the idea that a ancap society being able to produce things like McNukes, iBattleships that can stand up against a state's military feels too much like fanfic bullshit If a society has the wealth, information, capability, industry, and tools to produce such things it is not fanfiction. It is reality. >If a ancap society does form in reality, it's 99% going to be a agriculture-focused nation, given how it would allow the civilians of such a nation to survive without the utter reliance of other people. You understand how ridiculous that sounds like? Capitalism is about trade, not complete self-sufficiency in a void. Sure, you can be self-sufficient if you choose to, but by and large, capitalism is INDUSTRY. Agriculture alone is just preposterous. You would see bigger and bigger cities, more trade, not unlike Singapore or Hong Kong. Trade hubs all around and massive wealth generation. That money can be used for arms and military tech. All while not being ""reliant"". It is trade, not dependence. Nobody is forced to trade into bad deals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496267014 127868648,127934734,2017-05-31 21:45:24,">>127930992 >unless they're interfering with my own Their ideology calls for the theft of your property and your eventual death. They must be physically removed from society, not necessarily killed. When is the correct time to respond?",,Anonymous,rippacifists.png,fA8oDRYH1lNAKhi8tt4lVg==,US,,1496267124 127868648,127935537,2017-05-31 21:53:03,">>127933550 >While Ancapistan might be able to supply the manpower for war, they would require more industrial, friendly nations and companies to be able to gain the heavy weapons and tools of war to fight against a enemy state. Oh sure, they'll trade. Help is appreciated, but not an absolute necessity. But to say that Ancapistan won't be industrial on her own is silly. As I've said, capitalism is industry. She will be more than industrial enough to prepare herself on her own without outside assistance. >But all this is just 'what if's, since as you said Still, entertaining the thought is interesting. >>127934486 >Then you have to believe Ancap is OBJECTIVELY the best system if you think the idea will survive more than a few generations. Objectively, meaning no arguments on morality, nothing about ""freedom"". It is. >nothing about ""long-term prosperity"", but best for the immediate well-being of all the individual people that make up your society. Is this the case? Of ALL the individual people in my society you say? Absolutely not. I want degenerates physically removed. You cannot have long-term prosperity without short-term gain. That is delusional. This may seem like an absolute, and that you CAN have immediate benefits as well as future gain, but in practice this is essentially impossible to achieve. In all practicality, any kind of short-term prosperity promised is the stuff of politicians' fantasy. Not everyone can be happy, and not everyone should be. I want only the best of the best to be happy, and the weakest, subversive, liberal, leftist, communist degenerates to be eliminated. I will accomplish that economically, rather than wasting my bullets on them, because if they can't work, they can't eat. No state will feed them. They will use whatever money they have left to buy their own gun and do my job for me in desperation. >But you don't, you said. What did I say? >What was threatening the existence of their society? Gee, I don't know, the North.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496267583 127868648,127935817,2017-05-31 21:55:33,">>127877888 this picture still doesn't demonstrate how libertarianism is degenerate or bad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496267733 127868648,127935997,2017-05-31 21:57:08,">>127934486 >Their survival was dependent on earning more profit, and so they prioritized earning more profit over what would otherwise have been more valuable: a homogeneous white society. You cannot have a homogenous white society if the society can't even sustain itself. >That's a pretty bold assumption, considering niggers weren't used just for picking cotton. Niggers are now obsolete. >Until you reach a point where you have enough capital that your survival is secured. Survival is NEVER secured. >more capital = more security, so why stop if you're already rolling? Because your survival is can never be too secure. This is how civilizations grow. >What the people ""genuinely"" want is rarely in the interests of society. I'll give you that, but only because the state feeds and propagates degenerates that make it difficult to distinguish between people that know the interests of society and your common degenerate. It is still no excuse for total state control. >don't meet the needs of ""the people"", only the ones that can purchase. The people that can purchase have jobs and contribute to society. Their needs is society's needs. Welfare on the other hand, as sponsored by the state, is the disease that taints this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496267828 127868648,127936033,2017-05-31 21:57:27,">>127932042 >>127932485 >A white society IS capitalism. A kike society is capitalism... >Not all rich people have rich parents Not an argument. Neither is ""if the children are spoiled brats"". Being born to a rich family can be a reason for success. >Which can still fail What does that have to do with anything? Their success was not achieved by their own merits regardless. >Awfully ambiguous and subject to interpretation Outsourcing's a general example, I guess. >Yes. Successful people in capitalism are still successful for a reason. You're not going to refute that those reasons can be negative? >So you admit that in NatSoc, you are putting incompetent people in charge? What kind of attempt at a strawman is this? >>127932649 >Study economics. Study history. Workers and the common man have cried about freedom for a long time. All that's come of it is a subtler way of governing them. They have always been incapable of governing themselves, and there's been no miracle of evolution that's made them suddenly capable of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496267847 127868648,127936709,2017-05-31 22:04:23,">>127936033 >A kike society is capitalism. You're thinking of communism. >Being born to a rich family can be a reason for success. I never denied that. However, it doesn't last very long between generations if the children squander it. They filter themselves out back into the lower classes given enough time and consecutive bad decisions. >What does that have to do with anything? Their success was not achieved by their own merits regardless. Because they can still fail, and many businesses often do. Getting to the top is not easy in capitalism without a government. >Outsourcing's a general example, I guess. The state is what supports outsourcing by providing benefits to tech companies instead of not sponsoring shitskins. >You're not going to refute that those reasons can be negative? There is no negative in free market government-free capitalism. >What kind of attempt at a strawman is this? The kind when you freely admitted that you don't value successful, competent people in your society. You don't like rich people, right? >Study history. Workers and the common man have cried about freedom for a long time. All that's come of it is a subtler way of governing them. They have always been incapable of governing themselves, and there's been no miracle of evolution that's made them suddenly capable of it. I never denied this. I'm not a complete anarchist you know, the lesser people should still be ruled. This rule however, is to be done voluntarily and not via state where others must submit to their will despite how inefficient it might be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496268263 127868648,127937242,2017-05-31 22:09:37,">>127934512 >I can't help but say it. How do you know this, and is this an absolute? Two things: People made laws that other people broke, and power can corrupt. If a person could do something that someone else doesn't want them to do, but are powerless to stop it, what would the former do? >Then they are free to leave. And what, abandon their land? Even if they do, I doubt they could sell off their property for what it would otherwise be because of the nearby arms race. >How could it go into total war, when other members of society gang up to neutralize the person breaking the peace? Because he's attacking someone who broke his NAP, so by attacking the attacker, they would be assisting the person who broke the NAP. But I guess that is what happens when the core law of the land can vary from person to person in the opinion of what breaks it. >You understand how ridiculous that sounds like? Alright, it is a bit extreme, but outside of large-scale industrial corporations (which can be argued to just be governments in different clothing) the safest bet would be to provide food for yourself, meaning that at least half or more the population or so would, at the least, be focused on agricultural pursuits with some side production for other things, selling any excess off to larger communities or companies. I think that would be the case due to how territorial ancaps appear when it comes to land, which can undermine people getting together into larger cities because of how little land the average person owns in the city.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496268577 127868648,127937307,2017-05-31 22:10:07,">>127869058 People were free to come and go in Chile during that time. Anyone could have left if they wanted to and go to the ""Glorious"" country of cuba. And now Chile is one of the top HDI index countries in South America now. Please friend embrace the values of the free market :)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496268607 127868648,127937711,2017-05-31 22:13:42,">>127935537 >It is. Then there should have been at least one example of it by now. Yet... There isn't. >Absolutely not. I want degenerates physically removed. If they're removed, they're not in your society anymore, are they... >any kind of short-term prosperity promised is the stuff of politicians' fantasy. 1933-1939 Germany was not fantasy. >Not everyone can be happy, and not everyone should be. I want only the best of the best to be happy, and the weakest, subversive, liberal, leftist, communist degenerates to be eliminated. I will accomplish that economically, rather than wasting my bullets on them, because if they can't work, they can't eat. No state will feed them. They will use whatever money they have left to buy their own gun and do my job for me in desperation. And the fact you think you can establish a society on these principles then achieve them after-the-fact is at the same level of delusional as the Marxists' proletariat revolution. >What did I say? That your society would tolerate free discussion of those ideas. >Gee, I don't know, the North Unrestricted competition, like I said. >>127935997 >if the society can't even sustain itself. If noncapitalist societies couldn't sustain themselves, society wouldn't exist. >Niggers are now obsolete. Obviously not. >Because your survival is can never be too secure. This is how civilizations grow. This is how 50% of all wealth in the world comes to be controlled by a handful of (((people))). But obviously since they have it, it means they deserve it, right? >but only because the state feeds and propagates degenerates A pure free market will feed and propagate them more efficiently than any government could ever hope to. That's the point of it, remember? >The people that can purchase have jobs and contribute to society. And they can only purchase if they have the money to spare and if the service is actually available to them. >Their needs is society's needs. This is not true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496268822 127868648,127938415,2017-05-31 22:19:37,">>127937242 >People made laws that other people broke Private laws depend on private property, but a lot of them can still share a lot of the same principles. You don't reinvent the wheel. >power can corrupt How wonderfully vague. >If a person could do something that someone else doesn't want them to do, but are powerless to stop it, what would the former do? Call the private police. >And what, abandon their land? That's their choice. >Even if they do, I doubt they could sell off their property for what it would otherwise be because of the nearby arms race. Some people will happily buy property for less. Preferably people not scared of a bit of guns. >Because he's attacking someone who broke his NAP, so by attacking the attacker, they would be assisting the person who broke the NAP >by attacking the attacker, they would be assisting the person who broke the NAP What? They are neutralizing the person breaking the NAP to secure the NAP in the future. It's done in self-defense. How does this assist the person who broke the NAP? >But I guess that is what happens when the core law of the land can vary from person to person in the opinion of what breaks it. It's not opinion. If you break the NAP, a principle clearly outlined as physical aggression, you break the NAP. Not rocket science. >the safest bet would be to provide food for yourself You know you can still buy food commercially, right? You understand that this is just like any normal society? >meaning that at least half or more the population or so would, at the least, be focused on agricultural pursuits with some side production for other things, selling any excess off to larger communities or companies. I'm sorry but that's just an assumption. Especially a whopping ""half of the population would absolutely and be always doing X as if they're forced to do it"". That's just not what happens, society remains largely similar, just voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496269177 127868648,127938893,2017-05-31 22:23:49,">>127869673 He actually killed himself with an AK-47 gifted to him by Castro",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1496269429 127868648,127939230,2017-05-31 22:26:49,">>127937242 > I think that would be the case due to how territorial ancaps appear when it comes to land, which can undermine people getting together into larger cities because of how little land the average person owns in the city. People can rent in the city. >Then there should have been at least one example of it by now. Yet... There isn't. For now. >If they're removed, they're not in your society anymore, are they... The meme went right over your head. >1933-1939 Germany was not fantasy. And look at what happened to Germany today? >And the fact you think you can establish a society on these principles then achieve them after-the-fact is at the same level of delusional as the Marxists' proletariat revolution. Oh please, they won't know. I've spoken to many liberals before and they're just as eager because I pepper the liberal freedom they could potentially get (dude weed is an excellent example), not the reality that happens in the long-term. Liberals are not interested in reality. They are useful idiots, and I want them to be useful for me, not Marx. No revolution needed, just progress. >That your society would tolerate free discussion of those ideas. It is tolerated. Tolerated within their private property. >Unrestricted competition, like I said. The North were still a threat. The Civil War made that very, very, clear. >If noncapitalist societies couldn't sustain themselves, society wouldn't exist. The most successful societies are ones operating on capitalism. >Obviously not. Only a nigger would think that. >This is how 50% of all wealth in the world comes to be controlled by a handful of (((people))). But obviously since they have it, it means they deserve it, right? They used the government to their advantage. The same government you want to hand over to them. >A pure free market will feed and propagate them more efficiently than any government could ever hope to. Not necessarily. There's freedom to discriminate, and freedom to reject.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496269609 127868648,127939370,2017-05-31 22:27:55,">>127937711 >And they can only purchase if they have the money to spare and if the service is actually available to them. That's why they get jobs. >This is not true. Nice opinion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496269675 127868648,127939482,2017-05-31 22:28:51,>>127868648,,Anonymous,meme.jpg,yQrvSTfK64XOGV9R2oBJTg==,US,,1496269731 127977728,127977728,2017-06-01 06:35:36,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - NATIONS BY CONSENT,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,US,,1496298936 127977728,127977880,2017-06-01 06:37:49,">NATIONS BY CONSENT: Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1496299069 127977728,127977908,2017-06-01 06:38:12,Libertarianism is a kind word for neoliberalism.,,Anonymous,954cd8a794e392ceea6a8af1f15afebab82dbe0c.png,DwYXNZOlSu2E7mYTPGkJhQ==,SE,,1496299092 127977728,127978055,2017-06-01 06:40:24,">>127977908 No, we are not liberals >The Errors of Classical Liberalism | Hans-Hermann Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f82mHHAt6yI",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496299224 127977728,127978134,2017-06-01 06:41:30,">RIGHT-WING POPULISM - Murray Rothbard https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1496299290 127977728,127978412,2017-06-01 06:45:53,,,Anonymous,Uncompromising.png,pduVxrs/9EoQcq8y3q5l/A==,US,,1496299553 127977728,127978500,2017-06-01 06:47:08,,,Anonymous,blue (2).jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1496299628 127977728,127978524,2017-06-01 06:47:34,,,Anonymous,blue (3).jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,US,,1496299654 127977728,127978864,2017-06-01 06:52:54,,,Anonymous,blue (4).jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,US,,1496299974 127977728,127979762,2017-06-01 07:06:01,Bump,,Anonymous,lrg_flamethrower.png,Zq0uGjcgUHq153vCHzc7WA==,US,,1496300761 127977728,127980250,2017-06-01 07:13:41,,,Anonymous,oklahoma_00000.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,US,,1496301221 127977728,127982181,2017-06-01 07:41:44,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1496302904 127977728,127983403,2017-06-01 07:58:37,"Just so everyone knows, taxes are not theft. Don't believe it, this podcast makes it pretty clear. fccfreeradio.com/nsfw-5-31-17",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496303917 127977728,127983578,2017-06-01 08:00:50,">>127983403 Tl:dl on the arguments?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496304050 127977728,127983725,2017-06-01 08:02:58,Are Paleocons welcome,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496304178 127977728,127983768,2017-06-01 08:03:30,,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1496304210 127977728,127983833,2017-06-01 08:04:25,">>127983578 Theft is using services, for instance the US currency system, and not paying the fees that keep the service running and pay for the employees labor. Taxes are simply service fees.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496304265 127977728,127983847,2017-06-01 08:04:40,">>127983725 Yeah paleoconservatives are alright with me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496304280 127977728,127983956,2017-06-01 08:06:14,">>127983833 >I'm gonna do a service you didn't ask for and demand payment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496304374 127977728,127984246,2017-06-01 08:10:05,">>127983956 Ah, the podcast explains this too. An individual does not have to agree so long as the society agrees. Taxtortioner: ""If someone mows my lawn and I didn't ask them to, then I shouldn't have to pay them."" Answer: If the community vote to have s specific service mow all the lawns of the community then you have to pay the fees of the community that go to the lawn service. Or leave the community.",,Anonymous,NSFW brony.jpg,JOReN+wgu6bWKxlhLmnc2Q==,US,,1496304605 127977728,127984282,2017-06-01 08:10:37,">>127983833 If circumventing the concept of theft was as simple as providing some ""service"" that the victim didn't ask for, then prisons would be empty of thieves. Anyway, more than theft, I'd define them as slavery, because you're forced to work for someone else's benefit without need for your consent.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496304637 127977728,127984390,2017-06-01 08:11:58,">>127984282 This does not negate any of the arguments already stated in this thread. Also, no one is forcing you to work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496304718 127977728,127984522,2017-06-01 08:13:45,">>127977728 >Being a Cuckotarian Nah, I rather be a National Socialist. You open borders, jewcapitalist faggots need to go",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496304825 127977728,127984605,2017-06-01 08:15:01,">>127984246 Ok so if the community votes to kill you you don't have to agree (the community consents for you) and so you aren't being murdered.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496304901 127977728,127984681,2017-06-01 08:16:01,">>127984246 That violates the very nature of private property,",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496304961 127977728,127984753,2017-06-01 08:17:04,">>127984246 >This does not negate any of the arguments >An individual does not have to agree so long as the society agrees. This is not an argument. >If the community vote to have s specific service mow all the lawns of the community then you have to pay the fees of the community that go to the lawn service. Or leave the community. Is there a contract? Am I allowed to select a different provider of mowing services or am I forced to use yours? Not a good comparison.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496305024 127977728,127984920,2017-06-01 08:19:06,">>127984605 Yeah dude, that is like, how laws work. We vote on laws and the laws decide who gets the death penalty. This is middle school stuff.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496305146 127977728,127984939,2017-06-01 08:19:21,">>127984390 I would say nature forces me to work, I don't want to starve. I charge you 50% of your income every time you want to take a shit, but hey, nobody forces you to take a shit, it's totally not slavery so long as you refuse to shit.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496305161 127977728,127985000,2017-06-01 08:20:12,">>127984522 >sounds great sign me up for single payer healthcare, an increase in defense spending, and increases to subsidies for corporations, and basic universal income. Fucking National Socialists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496305212 127977728,127985048,2017-06-01 08:20:56,">>127984522 >Open borders Maybe you should get informed before spouting your ignorance around. Open borders is what you get with a state. Walls and gates is what you get with private property.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496305256 127977728,127985051,2017-06-01 08:21:00,">>127984753 If the community votes to have one service that they all pitch in to pay for then no, you can't choose another service. If you want another service move to another community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496305260 127977728,127985166,2017-06-01 08:22:37,">>127984939 You don't have to work. I'm sure you regularly complain about all the people who live in this country and don't work. You could be one of them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496305357 127977728,127985217,2017-06-01 08:23:14,"Active right libertarian community on Telegram. Group: http://t.me/LibertarianRG Channel: http://LibertarianRight",,Anonymous,1494944117105.jpg,9GJEOp+gFTK+kgUked70Fw==,US,,1496305394 127977728,127985261,2017-06-01 08:23:51,">>127984522 Don't be blatantly ignorant of what we are for. Open borders is an assault on private property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496305431 127977728,127985283,2017-06-01 08:24:13,">>127984681 Private property is a legal concept that only exists because society agrees it should.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496305453 127977728,127985333,2017-06-01 08:24:55,,,Anonymous,Trivium.png,j2RLvj1+T09qsDQVJPoZZA==,US,,1496305495 127977728,127985359,2017-06-01 08:25:18,>>127985333,,Anonymous,Trivium-Expanded.png,RcI2M0NPqXgGokNmJToNaA==,US,,1496305518 127977728,127985454,2017-06-01 08:26:34,>>127985359,,Anonymous,slavery.jpg,p5M6av1cG2CPFW3QmZAAtw==,US,,1496305594 127977728,127985479,2017-06-01 08:26:56,>>127985454,,Anonymous,sovereign.jpg,9Tnf4cJk/BQjdrudl8o5QQ==,US,,1496305616 127977728,127985496,2017-06-01 08:27:14,">>127985051 > If you want another service move to another community Well, if slaves didn't want to be enslaved, all they had to do is move to another community. >>127985166 >You don't have to work. I'm sure you regularly complain about all the people who live in this country and don't work. You could be one of them. So I don't have to work as long as I steal from others? Revealing line of thought indeed/",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496305634 127977728,127985501,2017-06-01 08:27:20,">>127984920 Filthy Democrat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496305640 127977728,127985575,2017-06-01 08:28:11,>>127985479,,Anonymous,hegel.png,PDC12BRUkQlukamYBaVvRg==,US,,1496305691 127977728,127985658,2017-06-01 08:29:18,>>127985575,,Anonymous,natural law.png,FgOiALIkdvjC7GxR69Ye1g==,US,,1496305758 127977728,127985742,2017-06-01 08:30:18,">>127985496 You are perfectly free to move. I hear Slab City is nice this time of year.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496305818 127977728,127985746,2017-06-01 08:30:21,">>127978524 I sense Hoppe was a conservative/Republican-esque guy until he realized the state is the ultimate nigger",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496305821 127977728,127985757,2017-06-01 08:30:28,>>127985658,,Anonymous,1495370095860.png,y+MA8bfvE383t0W6Bjvy8Q==,US,,1496305828 127977728,127985808,2017-06-01 08:31:17,">>127985575 .",,Anonymous,1494527364932.jpg,bubytKQ8v1XC3r8IAKIECg==,US,,1496305877 127977728,127985821,2017-06-01 08:31:28,>>127985746,,Anonymous,Rothbard_0.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,US,,1496305888 127977728,127985863,2017-06-01 08:32:03,">>127985757 >>127985808",,Anonymous,1494814100608.jpg,fLs/0G7TGMF/9A2Wzbq16A==,US,,1496305923 127977728,127985895,2017-06-01 08:32:22,">>127985496 Just because you don't like the options doesn't mean options don't exist. You choose society like the rest of us. If you choose to use currency then you agree to pay the fees of the currency system. If you don't like paying the fees of society drop out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496305942 127977728,127985905,2017-06-01 08:32:33,>>127985863,,Anonymous,1495824504850.jpg,a4PBiO6dA3lGuhqtcANd3w==,US,,1496305953 127977728,127985928,2017-06-01 08:32:56,>>127985905,,Anonymous,quote.jpg,255oOGcOBg+CTg6GkqULqw==,US,,1496305976 127977728,127985974,2017-06-01 08:33:36,>>127985928,,Anonymous,muhgubment.png,UAWP0XXyKRCx36n/vhxb0g==,US,,1496306016 127977728,127986012,2017-06-01 08:34:07,">>127983833 This is analogous to the panhandler who comes up, dirties my windscreen and demands shekels to wipe it off again. Try a different line of argument shlomo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306047 127977728,127986053,2017-06-01 08:34:47,>>127985974,,Anonymous,order followers.jpg,XUdBLYH+kXxBlzFwnsc1ZA==,US,,1496306087 127977728,127986071,2017-06-01 08:35:06,">>127985742 I'm perfectly free to assume the consequences of trying to get rid of the noose you put around your neck. I don't agree that you had the right to put a noose around my neck in the first place. >>127985895 >If you choose to use currency then you agree to pay the fees of the currency system. You have no right to impose a currency system on me. >Just because you don't like the options doesn't mean options don't exist Options are being reduced through violence. Would you agree that someone has the right to form a monopoly of milk as long as he kills the competition?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496306106 127977728,127986112,2017-06-01 08:35:40,">>127986012 No it isn't. You are free to use the barter system. But you use currency, so you pay the fees.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306140 127977728,127986142,2017-06-01 08:36:09,">>127985905 Jesus Christ commies need to be purged. If this isn't evidence for preemptive self defense I don't know what is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306169 127977728,127986157,2017-06-01 08:36:23,">>127985746 That's certainly true for me",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496306183 127977728,127986164,2017-06-01 08:36:28,>>127986053,,Anonymous,benjamin-franklin-when-the-people-find-they-can-vote-themselves-money-that-will-herald-the-end-of-the-republic.jpg,+eLcC2LwnnFANDfPRSjIkg==,US,,1496306188 127977728,127986251,2017-06-01 08:37:51,>>127986142,,Anonymous,1492945909809.jpg,1i071nv3kXVwluPrS9ulHg==,US,,1496306271 127977728,127986297,2017-06-01 08:38:29,">>127986071 Your feels do not negate the truths. You don't have to like it, that's how it is. You put the lib in libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306309 127977728,127986350,2017-06-01 08:39:18,">>127977728 0ch.org/ the anarchist hangout. enjoy.",,Anonymous,1476580481197.jpg,+RBNKr56V5GGsIV/TaMJ0A==,AU,,1496306358 127977728,127986355,2017-06-01 08:39:22,">>127986142 My last bump. Good luck anons. Gotta go get some stuff done. Later.",,Anonymous,1493576675066.jpg,qkMjekpGI8g30B/sBkpthw==,US,,1496306362 127977728,127986454,2017-06-01 08:40:40,">>127986071 If it were not for currency how would you trade? And why don't you use that system of trade now so you can avoid taxes?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306440 127977728,127986469,2017-06-01 08:40:55,">>127986297 >You don't have to like slavery, that's how it is. You're just a terrible human being, but hey, the helicopter will be free for you.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496306455 127977728,127986646,2017-06-01 08:43:21,">>127986454 I would trade with whatever offers me the best trading conditions. Imposing a territorial monopoly on trading systems over a extended piece of land through violence might ""be how it is"", but that doesn't mean it's not extortion.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496306601 127977728,127986712,2017-06-01 08:44:13,">>127986469 Taxes are not slavery or theft. I have explained how and all you do is keeps saying, ""but it is because I say so."" You make libertarians look silly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306653 127977728,127986790,2017-06-01 08:45:17,">>127986712 You have explained that if two people agree stabbing a third one in the back is not murder, then it is not murder. Literally a shit argument.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496306717 127977728,127986815,2017-06-01 08:45:33,">>127985283 Private property is a right that exist by threat of violence from the individual even the neighborhood dog understands this principle",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306733 127977728,127986847,2017-06-01 08:45:49,">>127986646 Why don't you do that now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306749 127977728,127987005,2017-06-01 08:47:45,">>127986847 We do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306865 127977728,127987087,2017-06-01 08:48:51,">>127986815 Wrong. The community allows the individual to possess private property. It's math. Sorry that reality has to rear it's ugly head.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306931 127977728,127987159,2017-06-01 08:49:46,">>127987005 Then no one is stealing from you and you have nothing to complain about. Also taxes are service fees, not theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496306986 127977728,127987232,2017-06-01 08:50:49,">>127986847 An example was raised before. If a hobo cleans your windshield without your permission do you owe him money for his service? Do you think it is morally permissible if everyone in the community you lived in decides that hobos are the only people who are allowed to clean windshields and that you must pay them on demand after they clean your windshield at their own will. If you do not pay or if you clean your own windshield you get 5 years in prison?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496307049 127977728,127987373,2017-06-01 08:52:34,">>127986847 Because my options of milk are limited by the fact that the milk godfather won't let anyone else enter the milk market and offer me milk.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496307154 127977728,127987383,2017-06-01 08:52:40,">>127987232 That is a strawman as an unelected hobo is in no way comparable to a government of elected representatives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307160 127977728,127987394,2017-06-01 08:52:48,">>127987159 The services fees are involuntary though, so it is no longer a 'service', rather it become extortion. Its not just income so you can't go down that route. Everything is taxed - even value added taxes if I want to purchase a good. Your only alternative is to 'live off the grid' - which is essentially illegal now, and upon death you get taxed anyway.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496307168 127977728,127987423,2017-06-01 08:53:07,">>127987159 So if I provide a service like cleaning your windows, and the community says it's a service worth a million dollars then you are now in debt 1mil to me. It's just math bro.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307187 127977728,127987542,2017-06-01 08:54:42,">>127987232 If my community did something that stupid I'd move.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307282 127977728,127987545,2017-06-01 08:54:43,">>127987383 You're obviously retarded since I didn't straw man you. I asked you questions of my own.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496307283 127977728,127987596,2017-06-01 08:55:17,">>127987542 They do a similar thing with public schools",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496307317 127977728,127987635,2017-06-01 08:55:46,">>127987423 that is stupid and no one is doing that yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307346 127977728,127987721,2017-06-01 08:57:03,>>127986355,,Anonymous,communism christianity.jpg,gm4rxr+Sj3RfQ8hJqdYBPg==,GB,,1496307423 127977728,127987727,2017-06-01 08:57:05,">>127987596 You seem like you were educated in a public school.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307425 127977728,127987793,2017-06-01 08:57:58,"discord /42shYC Book club, starting on monday.",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-no-crime-to-be-ignorant-of-economics-which-is-after-all-a-specialized-discipline-and-one-murray-rothbard-263126.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,US,,1496307478 127977728,127987867,2017-06-01 08:58:47,">>127987721 That image is wrong",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496307527 127977728,127988020,2017-06-01 09:00:49,">>127987394 Service fees are always involuntary. If you use the service you pay the fees. You can move to Slab City if you don't want to pay the fees.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307649 127977728,127988026,2017-06-01 09:00:57,">>127987635 You can't apply your principle universally and so it is fallacious. Property ethics can be applied universally.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307657 127977728,127988118,2017-06-01 09:02:11,">>127984246 lol .. idiots in a ""libertarian"" thread talking about how as long as ""society"" agrees then it's ok .. where the fuck do you guys think the word ""socialism"" comes from? calling it ""community"" doesn't make it any better unless you're a ""communist"" .. fake libertarians ..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307731 127977728,127988184,2017-06-01 09:03:03,">>127988026 It is universal. If you don't think it is you just misunderstand it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307783 127977728,127988340,2017-06-01 09:04:52,">>127988118 I'm just explaining the reality of the situation. You don't have to like it. It's the truth. Your feels do not change the truth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307892 127977728,127988371,2017-06-01 09:05:17,">>127988020 No wrong. Very basic thing to understand. They are only involuntary if you sign a contract before hand, which is a voluntary action.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496307917 127977728,127988489,2017-06-01 09:06:36,">>127988371 You don't have to sign the contract. It's part of living in the country or state or city you are in. Don't like it, you are free to leave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496307996 127977728,127988525,2017-06-01 09:07:10,">>127988184 I just gave you example of ""the community decides"" what is right and you said it was ""stupid"" I know you're just trying to troll LOLbergs but be a little better at it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308030 127977728,127988689,2017-06-01 09:09:31,">>127988489 >You don't have to sign the contract So it is involuntary, which is my point. The rest of your statement becomes meaningless, and it is also wrong, but that's an entirely different argument.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496308171 127977728,127988714,2017-06-01 09:09:52,">>127988525 You used a ridiculously stupid example that no one could possibly take seriously.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308192 127977728,127988831,2017-06-01 09:11:18,">>127988689 Nah bruh, that's not how voting works. You don't have to vote for it. Everyone else did.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308278 127977728,127988887,2017-06-01 09:11:50,">>127988714 Ok change the value from one million to ten bucks. Is it still stupid?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308310 127977728,127988995,2017-06-01 09:13:04,">>127988831 Still completely irrelevant. Taxes are extortion as they are not voluntary, regardless of what the so-called community decides.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496308384 127977728,127989041,2017-06-01 09:13:37,">>127988887 Right, your example is stupid. Instead the community votes to hire a capable service and all is well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308417 127977728,127989133,2017-06-01 09:14:42,">>127988995 That does not the definition of extortion. Try again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308482 127977728,127989212,2017-06-01 09:15:29,">>127988831 >he still believes in democracy",,Anonymous,1474919616797.jpg,6graYdES8tbH94+062sW1g==,CA,,1496308529 127977728,127989286,2017-06-01 09:16:25,">>127988995 Taxes are fees for the services you use. Get over it. It's not extortion. Repeating a false meme over and over does not make it true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308585 127977728,127989304,2017-06-01 09:16:37,">>127989041 > Instead the community votes to hire a capable service and all is well. That was my example. You're intellectual dishonesty is appalling. You can't justify it universally, you've shown it. You just won't admit it. Please stop I won't reply anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308597 127977728,127989408,2017-06-01 09:17:51,">>127987159 Then why aren't we allowed to pick and choose which services we want? And why are we put in prison if we don't pay?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308671 127977728,127989436,2017-06-01 09:18:16,">>127989133 >>127989286 Yes because if I chose not to, voluntarily, I would be sent to jail. That is extortion. Therefore the practice becomes involuntary, and thus it is extortion. In addition, I am still taxed for services I don't use, so its not even fundamentally true.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496308696 127977728,127989484,2017-06-01 09:18:49,"/pol/ is for fascists, nat socs, and those who hate the kikes. Not for libertarian fags like you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308729 127977728,127989506,2017-06-01 09:19:02,">>127989304 You won't reply because you realize you have lost. You can't even explain what doesn't apply universally. Because my logic is flawless and I've thought this out way farther than you have.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308742 127977728,127989634,2017-06-01 09:20:29,">>127988340 today I learned that socialist community organizer obama is in fact a libertarian and my ""feels"" can't change that truth .. obamacare passed with 60 votes in the senate .. a supermajority of our community has spoken .. this entire time I thought obamacare was socialism when in fact it's actually libertarianism .. muh feels can't cope with this truth ..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308829 127977728,127989660,2017-06-01 09:20:46,">>127989436 stop replying to him. You won't convince this brainwashed tard",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496308846 127977728,127989723,2017-06-01 09:21:23,">>127989436 Stealing is illegal. You are not entitled to the labor of others. You wish to use the system then you pay the fees. If you use the system then try not to pay the fees you face the legal ramifications. Paying for the services you use is not extortion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308883 127977728,127989729,2017-06-01 09:21:30,">>127989286 >Taxes are fees for the services you use I want to send my daughter to private school, and provide charity to my grandparents, can I opt out of those taxes? No. If I don't pay what are the consequences? Death by SNU SNU from niggers. THEFT detected.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308890 127977728,127989748,2017-06-01 09:21:43,">>127989484 What are you, the /pol/ice? This place was founded on Ron Paul's run in 2012, not that you were here for that you nigger faggot.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496308903 127977728,127989755,2017-06-01 09:21:46,">>127989484 We hate the kikes. Lurk more, newfag",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496308906 127977728,127989770,2017-06-01 09:21:53,"Went to the first session of my econ class yesterday. >tfw my prof is Chinese and a Keynesian Should I reveal my power level?",,Anonymous,1494448874690.jpg,79j0wbuqFv1hJcv+zf2FjA==,US,,1496308913 127977728,127989824,2017-06-01 09:22:29,">>127989770 Yes",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496308949 127977728,127989890,2017-06-01 09:23:16,">>127989723 for fucks sake, I don't use 90% of the services my tax dollars pay for. I like I give shit about aid to Israel, or ""gettin that oil"" in the middle east. How does that serve me?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496308996 127977728,127989961,2017-06-01 09:24:06,">>127988489 You see, in order for peaceful coexistence over scarce resources, we need self-ownership. Self ownership implies that the two ways of acquiring property legitimately are by homesteading a previously unowned property, or by trading. The state didn't acquire the land legitimately, therefore they have no right to force people to leave their land if they don't want to be subjected by its arbitrary ruling. Now, if you want to argue that you don't give a shit about peace, about legitimacy, and about ownership, then that means you yourself reject the concept of self-ownership, and we should treat you like an animal.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496309046 127977728,127990042,2017-06-01 09:25:04,">>127989729 Allocation of funds is a separate issue from the fact that taxes are fees for the services you use and there for not theft. All of the services, not just schools. ALL OF THEM.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309104 127977728,127990153,2017-06-01 09:26:36,">>127989890 You are free to complain about the allocation of funds all you like and I will likely agree with most of it. However that does not change the fact that pay the fees of the services that you actually do use is not extortion nor theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309196 127977728,127990202,2017-06-01 09:27:11,">>127990042 How is smoking a cigarette a service? Reminder you get taxed even for that.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496309231 127977728,127990256,2017-06-01 09:27:52,">>127989723 The government is nothing more than a monopoly on violence. They are biggest violators of their own laws. Drug and Human traffickers. And suppress and rewrite history for the benefit of their Jewish masters, the banking elite. Nothing that comes from the government is useful to the point that I wouldn't rely on myself to do it first. Examples. I own fire suppression systems even though there is a fire department. I own self defense system for crime prevention, even though we have law enforcement. Taxes are theft, get over it. Tired of paying interest on our 20TRILLION dollar debt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309272 127977728,127990274,2017-06-01 09:28:06,">>127990153 What is the difference between sex and rape? Exactly the same between offering services and theft. Consent.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496309286 127977728,127990287,2017-06-01 09:28:16,">>127989961 You are allowed to own property because the community allows it. Now amount of mumbo jumbo changes that simple fact.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309296 127977728,127990372,2017-06-01 09:29:26,">>127990274 The community consents. Just because you got outvoted doesn't make definitions change.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309366 127977728,127990390,2017-06-01 09:29:39,">>127990153 You've not thought this through enough lol. >because you use one thing you are involuntarily charged for everything else, and sent jail if you don't use it Pleb tier logic friend, think harder.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496309379 127977728,127990407,2017-06-01 09:29:48,">>127990274 It's not rape if the community consents to it .. If you don't like it you can leave .. Also the rape industrial complex isn't free .. Pay your taxes ..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309388 127977728,127990496,2017-06-01 09:30:51,">>127990256 None of that makes taxes theft. It's just you complaining about shit you don't like. That's fine, but it doesn't change the definitions of words.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309451 127977728,127990636,2017-06-01 09:32:24,">>127990372 >The community consents. Just because you got outvoted doesn't make definitions change. I never consented being part of this community of sheep.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309544 127977728,127990637,2017-06-01 09:32:25,">>127990287 Not an argument. Just an appeal to nature. It is natural that might makes right, that's what you're arguing. >>127990372 I never gave the community the consent to decide whether or not I should be raped. Not implicit, not explicit.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496309545 127977728,127990685,2017-06-01 09:32:52,">>127990390 You don't have to use it. You only have to pay the fees of the system. Like if you got it the first time I said it I wouldn't have to keep repeating it. Nothing you say changes that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309572 127977728,127990755,2017-06-01 09:33:47,">>127990496 >It's just you complaining about shit you don't like You are so dumb, perfect answer already provided: >What is the difference between sex and rape? >Exactly the same between offering services and theft. Consent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309627 127977728,127990783,2017-06-01 09:34:07,">>127990637 You consent to being raped by choosing not to leave when you know the community is about to rape you .. It's all legal .. Bend over ..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309647 127977728,127990812,2017-06-01 09:34:26,">>127980250 Justified.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309666 127977728,127990817,2017-06-01 09:34:30,">>127990637 Describing reality is not an appeal to nature. It's explaining how things are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309670 127977728,127990842,2017-06-01 09:34:48,">>127990685 So it is involuntary and therefore extortion. Thank you. Goodbye.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496309688 127977728,127990868,2017-06-01 09:35:08,">>127990783 Anther strawman",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309708 127977728,127990914,2017-06-01 09:35:36,">>127990685 >You don't have to use it. You only have to pay the fees of the system. Like if you got it the first time I said it I wouldn't have to keep repeating it. WTF how is it a service to me if I don't use it? >Nothing you say changes that. Nothing you say changes the fact that we are being robbed to pay for Israel's war interests.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309736 127977728,127990977,2017-06-01 09:36:28,">>127990783 Stateless, can't leave. Go fuck yourself. Life is not that black and white.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309788 127977728,127991021,2017-06-01 09:36:57,">>127990868 It's not a strawman. It's exactly what you're advocating. Btw we outnumber you and we consent to you jumping off a bridge. Go away.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309817 127977728,127991025,2017-06-01 09:37:00,">>127990868 I assure you, I'm not made of straw .. I've also submitted a proposition to have you raped .. It's currently polling at 65% in favor .. It will soon be your reality ..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309820 127977728,127991127,2017-06-01 09:38:12,">>127991025 >It's currently polling at 65% in favor .. It will soon be your reality .. Here here, I vote Yay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496309892 127977728,127991219,2017-06-01 09:39:22,">>127990817 We have eyes, we can see how things are. We don't need Captain Obvious to point them out, thanks. Now, if you come here and try to debate, you should at least explain why things have to be like that. Not how it is but how it should be. You're in a libertarian thread, we're talking about our ideology that has no power, no shit we're going to have to deal with how things are. Now try to deter us with arguments from trying to change and trying to convince people, or get out and stop shitposting",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496309962 127977728,127991312,2017-06-01 09:40:29,http://www.strawpoll.me/13087975,,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,GB,,1496310029 127977728,127991414,2017-06-01 09:41:39,">>127991312 >http://www.strawpoll.me/13087975 God bless the power of democracy",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496310099 127977728,127991450,2017-06-01 09:42:10,">>127991312 >http://www.strawpoll.me/13087975 helicopter for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310130 127977728,127991532,2017-06-01 09:43:04,">>127991127 I second this vote",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310184 127977728,127991634,2017-06-01 09:44:28,">>127991025 Can I open a vote to get his car in exchange of my service of planting a turd in his yard? It's not theft if its democratic :^)",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496310268 127977728,127991718,2017-06-01 09:45:27,">>127991532 > dont like it leave if he doesn't like it, he can grow wings and fly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310327 127977728,127991806,2017-06-01 09:46:26,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s,,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496310386 127977728,127991828,2017-06-01 09:46:37,"HELICOPTER RIDE OR JAIL, WHAT DO YOU CHOOSE?",,Anonymous,1489264917716.jpg,8sjvfr7D+7UuIaCLPhDVGQ==,GB,,1496310397 127977728,127991942,2017-06-01 09:47:52,">>127991718 makes me so mad when people trivialize my immigration situation. if i could have left, or self deported, I would have long time ago. This is why I support a wall, so no one else should have to fall through the cracks like I did. How about that for a service? I fucking working non corrupt government? All their services suck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310472 127977728,127992071,2017-06-01 09:49:24,"SOCIALISM WILL TOTALLY WORK IF EVERYONE IS WHITE X----D",,Anonymous,Stormfag.jpg,svgdu92UXlDJb+ORpHZjHg==,CA,,1496310564 127977728,127992253,2017-06-01 09:51:34,">>127990914 You use other services and you pay the fees of those services. Allocation of funds is a different matter entirely.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310694 127977728,127992422,2017-06-01 09:53:27,">>127991634 Yes, it's not theft if it's democratic now you are getting it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310807 127977728,127992458,2017-06-01 09:53:51,">>127992071 I dont know about that. I think competition is essential for any sort of progress. Its not natural to just sit on your ass all day. Seems to me 'socialism' is always based on someone pulling more weight. And reminds me of how Jews use the Goyim, to gain an easy life off usury.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310831 127977728,127992545,2017-06-01 09:54:43,">>127992253 >Allocation of funds is a different matter entirely. Red Herring alert. You ignored the fact that there is still a threat of violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310883 127977728,127992619,2017-06-01 09:55:37,">>127991219 I'm talking about mathematical reality. You can't change math. 2>1 you can't change that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310937 127977728,127992712,2017-06-01 09:56:35,">>127992545 The threat of violence is for stealing. Don't steal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496310995 127977728,127992746,2017-06-01 09:56:54,">>127992422 It's not murder if we all here agree to throw you out of a helicopter. It's voluntary suicide. Btw, my definition of community and who has right to vote this is totally arbitrary, deal with it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496311014 127977728,127992775,2017-06-01 09:57:12,">>127992619 >2>1 you can't change that. I think you've gone full retard bro. Have you considered suicide? I dont really want to pay for your health insurance. Give me a break yeah? KYS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311032 127977728,127992898,2017-06-01 09:58:36,">>127992712 >The threat of violence is for stealing. Don't steal. Are you saying me refusing to pay for services I don't use is theft? I am thief because I earn money? When did america go full on incentivized looserdom?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311116 127977728,127992899,2017-06-01 09:58:37,">>127991312 >that 1 vote",,Anonymous,Screenshot 2017-06-01 at 14.58.10.png,RxPInpuSK0YY5qhvJXnTVQ==,GB,,1496311117 127977728,127993004,2017-06-01 09:59:55,">>127992746 You benefit from society you pay for it. That's such a simple concept. If you expect payment for your labor do not expect others to labor for you for free.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311195 127977728,127993099,2017-06-01 10:00:52,">>127992898 No, you pay for the services that you use. Stop conflating my argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311252 127977728,127993123,2017-06-01 10:01:08,">>127992899 MAJORITYED",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496311268 127977728,127993182,2017-06-01 10:01:51,">>127993004 >You benefit from society you pay for it. Another fallacy. Countless niggers don't earn a fucking penny and just leech off of others who do. This is why you can't INVERSE the argument. You are incentivizing me just sitting on my ass all day like a nigger. Or getting into crime, or money laundering. Literally a shit society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311311 127977728,127993231,2017-06-01 10:02:20,">>127993004 And what if I don't think I benefit? What if I believed my money would be better somewhere else, literally causing me a loss, not a benefit?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496311340 127977728,127993309,2017-06-01 10:03:11,">>127993099 >No, you pay for the services that you use. Stop conflating my argument It doesn't work that way. I don't use Tomahawk missiles, nor do I want my government to murder innocents or fund proxy wars through ISIS. Do I have a choice here?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311391 127977728,127993428,2017-06-01 10:04:34,">>127993182 That's the option. The incintive is to make money and pay into the system and live a life of comfort. Or you can live off the system. You are free to choose. It's not theft if you can choose not to do it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311474 127977728,127993443,2017-06-01 10:04:44,">>127993099 what argument? democratically determined violence isn't violence? slavery isn't slavery because it's legal? that's hardly a thought let alone an argument ..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311484 127977728,127993574,2017-06-01 10:05:59,">>127993309 You pay for the services that you do use. Then they spend it how they want. No one tells you how to spend your money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311559 127977728,127993600,2017-06-01 10:06:22,">>127993428 >That's the option. The incintive is to make money and pay into the system and live a life of comfort. Or you can live off the system. You are free to choose. It's not theft if you can choose not to do it. You can just hear 4 billion years of evolution going the toilet right here. These are not the options, Trump Help us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311582 127977728,127993664,2017-06-01 10:07:00,">>127993443 You pay for the service you use.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311620 127977728,127993667,2017-06-01 10:07:00,">>127993574 >No one tells you how to spend your money. OH THE IRONY!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311620 127977728,127993810,2017-06-01 10:08:22,">>127993664 >g7HAdtcW Just another nigger trying to get more gibs me dats.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311702 127977728,127993838,2017-06-01 10:08:45,">>127993600 Trump was voted to be president.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311725 127977728,127993955,2017-06-01 10:10:08,">>127993810 You are the leech not wanting to pay for services you use. What makes you entitled to someone else's labor?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311808 127977728,127994030,2017-06-01 10:11:10,">>127993955 >What makes you entitled to someone else's labor? Who wrote this bot? Its not very good. CIA try again!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311870 127977728,127994040,2017-06-01 10:11:19,">>127993955 >What makes you entitled to someone else's labor? The anti-tax argument, in a nutshell. You've become a parody of yourself.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496311879 127977728,127994068,2017-06-01 10:11:31,">>127993231 Allocation is a different matter than the fees of the service. You pay your cable fees but you don't get to tell them how to spend it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311891 127977728,127994087,2017-06-01 10:11:40,">>127993664 I ""pay"" for services I don't use retard .. Even liberals know you pay for other people's services through redistribution .. You're even too dumb to be a liberal ..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311900 127977728,127994202,2017-06-01 10:13:03,">>127994040 Yeah, this is where I get off the threat. Arguing with a high functioning retard of an AI program is no fun.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496311983 127977728,127994249,2017-06-01 10:13:39,">>127994202 thread*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312019 127977728,127994253,2017-06-01 10:13:40,">>127994040 You don't realize you are the parody. It is you who wishes to use the labor of others for free. You just refuse to see it. If you don't believe you are entitled to the labor of others you should pay them for their service.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312020 127977728,127994330,2017-06-01 10:14:31,">>127994253 >Jeff, Jeff...the bot...its going rogue again",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496312071 127977728,127994466,2017-06-01 10:15:53,What's his name again?,,Anonymous,9F1A9B07_A14B_4F25_A25D_76C15C067A1B_3061_000004786CB7E6C6.jpg,6dR2xQWwsYRHTncRCjVPHg==,US,,1496312153 127977728,127994487,2017-06-01 10:16:06,">>127994253 Apparently in your world the government is the only employer and originator of wealth. Your completely diluted. Goodbye, and goodluck if you are a real person. You're gonna get it hard in the ass when you grow up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312166 127977728,127994497,2017-06-01 10:16:19,">>127994202 It seems you have run into the wall of reality. Taxes are not theft. Good day.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312179 127977728,127994553,2017-06-01 10:16:58,">>127994253 Can someone pay him for his service of educating us? We're all benefiting from his labor right now and are stealing from him by not paying him ..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312218 127977728,127994610,2017-06-01 10:17:34,>>127994497,,Anonymous,taxationistheft.jpg,cfEjMcGM4b7BXNTj4/Y6tQ==,CA,,1496312254 127977728,127994618,2017-06-01 10:17:37,">>127994487 That's a great strawman you got there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312257 127977728,127994674,2017-06-01 10:18:26,">>127994497 Taxes are theft fuck face. I will not leave without having the last word.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312306 127977728,127994771,2017-06-01 10:19:30,"Hmm...really makes you think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUs_Q_rfl9I",,Anonymous,right-libertarians.png,qR/GmFiXOqOGEk3/ErS81g==,US,,1496312370 127977728,127994859,2017-06-01 10:20:38,">>127987721 t. brainlet Exoteric Christianity is maybe, but not esoteric. Esoteric Christianity is Hermetic and Astrotheologically allegorical at its core. Do some reading on those subjects before you post autistic garbage from people who want you to be their useful idiot.",,Anonymous,Paine on Astrotheology of Christianity.jpg,nOrw0wEL9lyVqF2tMHc/pQ==,US,,1496312438 127977728,127994882,2017-06-01 10:20:50,">>127994674 Paying for the services you use is not theft. Using services without paying for them, however is theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312450 127977728,127994951,2017-06-01 10:21:50,">>127994882 Taxation is Theft. Your programmer is a whore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312510 127977728,127995091,2017-06-01 10:23:29,">>127994610 A better picture.",,Anonymous,socialism.png,04c0eFGtWTCmmysQO8K63w==,US,,1496312609 127977728,127995165,2017-06-01 10:24:23,">>127994951 Haha I figured this out on my own, champ. It's just logic. No need for books, videos, or teachers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312663 127977728,127995220,2017-06-01 10:24:58,">>127994859 You're an idiot. Where's the evidence for these retarded claims?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496312698 127977728,127995360,2017-06-01 10:26:37,">>127994882 So if I take your shit at gun point, then use a small amount to buy you a new set of sheets, whether you need or want a new set of sheets at all, that was not theft? Ok, dickbutter.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312797 127977728,127995361,2017-06-01 10:26:37,">>127995165 >Haha I figured this out on my own, champ. It's just logic. No need for books, videos, or teachers. I'm telling you this type of nonsense just proves bots are posting in threads. Anyone else understand how my comment can produce this response from the anon? Oh and.. Taxation is Theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312797 127977728,127995365,2017-06-01 10:26:39,">>127994882 Everybody breathes air. By your argument, it would be justified if the government charged you for breathing ""durr, you are using the air, so it isn't theft, you are just paying for what you use"" No you dumb shit, if you don't consent to being charged for something, that is theft. Someone FORCING you to pay for something is THEFT",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496312799 127977728,127995512,2017-06-01 10:28:18,">>127995365 >Someone FORCING you to pay for something is THEFT But you can just go to another country if you don't like it. Or you can start your own country. :^)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496312898 127977728,127995732,2017-06-01 10:30:44,">>127995360 That's not how it works. You have to use the system before you can be taxed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313044 127977728,127995796,2017-06-01 10:31:32,">>127995512 >robber points gun at you ""This is not theft, because you could have gone down another alley. Don't want to pay my toll again? Go down another alley in the future.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313092 127977728,127995820,2017-06-01 10:31:48,">>127995365 The government does not provide air though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313108 127977728,127995902,2017-06-01 10:32:41,">>127995512 This is the same mentality the mafia used to have >If you don't like paying us protection money, go do business somewhere else >:^)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496313161 127977728,127995964,2017-06-01 10:33:19,">>127995820 The government doesn't provide anything idiot ..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313199 127977728,127995971,2017-06-01 10:33:26,">>127995796 It's not theft if the ""robber"" isn't forcing you to give money to him. You have the freedom to move. You can go to some other alley, or you can find an empty alley.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313206 127977728,127996004,2017-06-01 10:33:52,">>127995902 It's not the same at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313232 127977728,127996083,2017-06-01 10:34:42,">>127995732 Not true. I could live on my own land, be entirely self sufficient, never rely on another person, and I would have to pay tax on my property. Also, a slave using the food/bedding provided by his slave master does not legitimize the slave master's relationship with his slave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313282 127977728,127996170,2017-06-01 10:35:44,">>127995964 That is obviously false. One example is the currency you claim is yours. You couldn't make money without the money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313344 127977728,127996195,2017-06-01 10:36:03,">>127994882 and threatening jail time to someone that never used, ordered, or even hinted at wanting your services?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313363 127977728,127996257,2017-06-01 10:36:54,">>127995820 It's by your same logic though. What about property taxes? The government didn't create the land for you, but they are charging you money for having a house on it. It's the same way for income tax, they steal your dollars you earned, to redistribute it as they see fit",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496313414 127977728,127996293,2017-06-01 10:37:17,">>127996170 >One example is the currency you claim is yours. You couldn't make money without the money. oh you sweet summer child without a single satoshi to your name",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313437 127977728,127996302,2017-06-01 10:37:26,">>127995971 Except that the robber has no right to tell me not to go down an alley they do not own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313446 127977728,127996330,2017-06-01 10:37:44,">>127996004 literally the exact same. ""If you don't like it, leave""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496313464 127977728,127996490,2017-06-01 10:39:27,">>127996083 Someone has to keep track of who owns what land. And they deserve compensation for their labor. Then there is boarder control. Then there are roads to get to the land, and if you want to pay for srovices you might need some cash. Or you can move to beautiful Slab City where no one pays taxes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313567 127977728,127996635,2017-06-01 10:41:09,">>127996195 You use all kinds of services. US currency is a service. By taking currency you agree to pay the fees of the service.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313669 127977728,127996661,2017-06-01 10:41:19,">>127996302 You are forgetting that we established a priori that the ""robber"" is the owner of the property—in this case the alley—and he is merely collecting a toll for using the alley. The robber has a right to charge you to go down his alley, and if you don't like it you're free to go down another alley.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313679 127977728,127996739,2017-06-01 10:42:11,Let this idiot be a reminder to everyone never to send your kids to government schools ..,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313731 127977728,127996744,2017-06-01 10:42:14,">>127996490 >someone has to keep track why? and why would I have to pay someone to keep track of my property unless I asked them to? Also I said entirely self sufficient. No roads. No interaction with the outside. Also, even if I was a city dwelling socialite, it in no way legitimizes coercive power to exist within a society that is organized around it, no more than a slave implicitly consents to be enslaved by eating bread offered by his master. Your thinking is so basic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313734 127977728,127996796,2017-06-01 10:42:48,">>127996293 I have exactly 707.80085 satoshi",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313768 127977728,127996830,2017-06-01 10:43:14,">>127996635 us currency is a monopolized commodity that only exists because people have the world at gunpoint.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313794 127977728,127996861,2017-06-01 10:43:37,">>127978864 You should become familiar with developmental economics before you believe this image... lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313817 127977728,127996927,2017-06-01 10:44:23,">>127996661 I never established that. At all. The term robber implicitly contains the notion of non owner of the property he seeks to control.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313863 127977728,127997048,2017-06-01 10:45:47,">>127996744 Your thinking is basic. Muh muhny is muh muhny and no one can takes it. But you don't want to pay the fees of the system that enabled you to make that money in the first place. You are the thing you think you are fighting against.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313947 127977728,127997099,2017-06-01 10:46:31,">>127996796 He has .80085 satoshis .. :D",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496313991 127977728,127997139,2017-06-01 10:46:55,">>127996830 Currency is a necessity of trade.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496314015 127977728,127997264,2017-06-01 10:48:32,">>127996744 So everyone knows where your property begins and ends and there are no disputes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496314112 127977728,127997448,2017-06-01 10:50:36,">>127984522 >being subject to a central authority >not being a cuck Pick one. Also >open borders Absolutely not. If we are to have private property, it is completely justified that those who own it determine who is or is not allowed in. Since shitskin rapefugees are not a benefit to anybody, they can kindly go die. >faggots No ideology hates fags more than Hoppeans do. Not even you.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496314236 127977728,127997670,2017-06-01 10:53:21,">>127996927 See your post, and I've capitalized the important word: >>127995796 >""This is not theft, because you could have gone down another alley. Don't want to pay my TOLL again? Go down another alley in the future."" Since we're arguing semantics, the term ""toll"" means a charge to use someone's property, therefore implying that the person imposing a toll is the legitimate owner of the property, or he is acting as a proxy for the legitimate owner of the property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496314401 127977728,127997755,2017-06-01 10:54:23,">>127997048 >you don't want to pay the fees of the system that enabled you to make that money in the first place. You went full-retard on that one. We don't make money because of the government, we make our money in spite of the government. You are using this blanket word ""The System"" like it is synonymous with society, but you fail to recognize society would still be intact in the absence of government. We don't earn money because the ""system"" allows us to, we make money by working and contributing to society.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496314463 127977728,127998161,2017-06-01 10:59:22,">>127986297 Your whims do not negate my property. If the society decides that my property is null and they try to take it, they will find that my force is of more relevancy to me than their ""consent"". Democracy has failed to preserve freedom and is a servant of communism. If that's the case, then democrats shall be purged along with the communists. The airborne oven does not discriminate.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1496314762 127977728,127998187,2017-06-01 10:59:46,">>127997755 You are ignoring the mints that print the currency and the people who run the mints to insure your currency holds its value along with other basic infrastructure. They deserve to be paid for their labor just like anyone else. And what they do with their pay is irrelevant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496314786 127977728,127998340,2017-06-01 11:01:37,">>127998161 Yeah, well there is one you, and if society decides you are a problem they will remove you with superior force. Again 2>1",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496314897 127977728,127998362,2017-06-01 11:01:51,">>127991025 shieet i votes to git that honkey wife imma get me some of dat",,Anonymous,bath salts.png,9aWyPFlhuvPuib+kx6ecGw==,SK,,1496314911 127977728,127998448,2017-06-01 11:02:46,">>127998161 Their consent outweighs your force because their force is also superior.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496314966 127977728,127998469,2017-06-01 11:03:03,"Guys, when did you grow out of the ""speculation is bad"" meme? Also long time no see ;^)",,Anonymous,speculation master race.png,u0ZdEa/AyjOcmlcmDNxCkQ==,ES,,1496314983 127977728,127998795,2017-06-01 11:07:14,">>127994466 Timothy ""Tearing down the government one building at a time"" McVeigh Timothy ""Vent your hate with ammonium nitrate"" McVeigh",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496315234 127977728,127999052,2017-06-01 11:10:05,">>127994771 Yes, we prefer fascists over you. I'd fight under Franco or Pinochet any day, I'd happily bomb Catalonia.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496315405 127977728,127999128,2017-06-01 11:10:57,>>127998362,,Anonymous,1ba910c2a517177a11139c006aa09334933622cfaccd79e7ad2077005c60541f_1.jpg,K8EG+Eu8ydn7aWiYh77H9w==,US,,1496315457 127977728,127999375,2017-06-01 11:13:50,">>127995512 That's the entire idea of secession and violent revolution.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496315630 127977728,127999447,2017-06-01 11:14:46,">>127998187 We don't need their fiat currency, they need us to keep their fiat currency in circulation. We can trade without USD There was currency in society before the federal reserve existed. People will still trade without a central bank, they will just use a different form of currency, like precious metals, or bank notes, or crypto currency. If you decentralize the monetary system in north america, private banks will be more responsible with their investing, and we wont have the same kind of economic bubbles that we currently have from the giant corporate banks who require tax bailouts",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496315686 127977728,127999743,2017-06-01 11:18:07,">>127998448 >70 posts by this ID Come on, this arguement has circled a good ten times in this thread already. What is your end goal here?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496315887 127977728,128000335,2017-06-01 11:24:20,">>127998340 >>127998448 While 2>1 may be true in mathematics, you seem to ignore the fact that no two people are equal. 84 Rhodesians ambushed and slaughtered 1000 out of 5000 Zimbabwean terrorists. Does that make mathematics null? It obviously doesn't. 1500 Brits ripped 50000 Indians a new hole at Plassey. Again, does this mean maths is a spook? One Timothy McVeigh with a single van of explosives killed 168 people and wounded 680 more. Does that mean that 168 is indeed less than 1? Again, people are inherently unequal. One man with a semi-automatic rifle can murder dozens of civilians, that's why you push for gun control instead of telling people to arm themselves. >>127985905 This is your game, is it not, commie? You're not even a proper Democrat. While democracy is the first step on the long march to communism - the death of mankind (which is why it's never ""real communism""), ordinary Democrats at least tend to believe in some form of rights that are more or less inalienable. You, however, believe in complete mob rule, and that's why you're a pest that needs to be liquidated with utmost care and precision, like uprooting a parasite plant, so to speak. Taxation is theft. State is slavery. Freedom is a revolt. Liberty or Death. ""And once you realise that leftists are subhuman animals who do not experience the world like we do, you realise that killing them seems no more immoral than putting the fucking steak on a grill.""",,Anonymous,kill a gommie for mommy.png,oLYnwtXLKvnn4Pg1EY20Sw==,SK,,1496316260 127977728,128000429,2017-06-01 11:25:23,">>127999743 The taxtirtioners argument is based on false assumptions and they need to know it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496316323 127977728,128000493,2017-06-01 11:26:07,">>127999128 ""Each Tyrone meme shall be matched one to one by a member of the /lrg/ old guard."" - 1st Resolution, Slovakbro",,Anonymous,best meme.jpg,lJW8vuXsono6mSgQO69M/g==,SK,,1496316367 127977728,128000583,2017-06-01 11:27:26,">>128000429 Your assumption is one of complete equality and collective authority, a.k.a. the worst kind of authority. Your numbers are going to give me pain only because it will be me who has to dig the graves for you lazy niggers.",,Anonymous,pol vs leftypol.png,CpbkBlPCU4PqhrVCq5/a+Q==,SK,,1496316446 127977728,128000844,2017-06-01 11:30:35,Free helicopter rides for statist scumlords,,Anonymous,Ancapistan.png,k8PxL2s8njELzZSJTCdA7g==,CA,,1496316635 127977728,128000879,2017-06-01 11:31:03,">>128000335 Nope. I'm all for your right to own guns. I just recognize the reality of superior force. You are allowed to own property because society lets you. End of story. If society decided you could not own property you wouldn't be able to. Like it or not, that is reality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496316663 127977728,128000923,2017-06-01 11:31:33,Daily reminder - commies are not friends.,,Anonymous,ancap mine.png,VeXoUUG3fuT7g7aPnmwFsQ==,SK,,1496316693 127977728,128001158,2017-06-01 11:34:18,">democracy is absolute >might makes right >(((taxation))) is a """"""service"""""" this is your mind on communism",,Anonymous,1494016681107.jpg,sNLG2g0UWgrDqghzO/4gsw==,US,,1496316858 127977728,128001185,2017-06-01 11:34:37,">>127999052 At least you are honest. You are not a libertarian at all. You are simply a fascist or a national capitalist. Your views support statism, capitalism, and authoritarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496316877 127977728,128001384,2017-06-01 11:37:02,">>128001185 >Your views support statism >even though the central core tenet of your views is founded entirely on the premise that the state is illegitimate anon, I...",,Anonymous,1494280274332.png,JqJ7s3j3E1WaPO5qn/PT6A==,US,,1496317022 127977728,128001426,2017-06-01 11:37:35,">>128000879 I'm able to own stuff for as long as I'm able to hold control over it. The entire fucking U.S. army could decide that my house is now their refueling station and I'm still its owner in reality as long as I maintain control over it. I'd still be its owner in right, so I'd have the moral high ground, but that doesn't mean shit if aggression has taken place.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496317055 127977728,128001459,2017-06-01 11:37:51,">>128000923 They never will. >>128001185 Id take fashies over commies any day. We should still end the states domination. Any questions?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317071 127977728,128001537,2017-06-01 11:38:51,">>128001384 Private property cannot exist without a state. This fact has been well-established since the enlightenment.",,Anonymous,smith-property.jpg,MQ2wjUhkNSQZj5wzaotqFw==,US,,1496317131 127977728,128001658,2017-06-01 11:40:15,">>127994771 >""muh traditional libertarianism"" Can this senile kike just shut the fuck up and stick to linguistics?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496317215 127977728,128001686,2017-06-01 11:40:44,">>128001537 >Private property cannot exist without a state. >why? >b-because the enlightenment said so! >b-because Adam Smith said so! can you make a better argument than appeal to authority from history?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317244 127977728,128001692,2017-06-01 11:40:49,">>128001459 fashies and commies are both equally retarded. Big government is horrible no matter how you slice it.",,Anonymous,1494791559941.png,X+dZuJk312TsqtXOkntV3g==,CA,,1496317249 127977728,128001702,2017-06-01 11:40:53,">>128001185 >natcap They are libertarians. 1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ Libertarians have supported capitalism ever since whom? Bastiat? Earlier than that? Probably Smith, though I'm not so sure about him. State is a central authority and opposing it is automatic for me. Authority comes from an actual contract or agreement and I respect it, not from the state, however, for the aforementioned reason. Keep spewing your poison, commie. The day of the airborne oven swings closer.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496317253 127977728,128001808,2017-06-01 11:42:05,">>128001692 Commies are clearly more retarded. They think they can abolish property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317325 127977728,128001834,2017-06-01 11:42:25,">>128001686 If you cannot understand why you need a body that can arbitrate titles with a monopoly on the use of force, in order to defend absentee ownership (private property in essence), then you really have no idea how any of this works.",,Anonymous,jefferson-property.jpg,JDH7VL8paUMbis/7XO35Og==,US,,1496317345 127977728,128001867,2017-06-01 11:42:44,">>127994771 >american libertarianism which comes from Europe. America and so-called ""American libertarianism"" is based on the teachings of John Locke, who was European.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496317364 127977728,128001934,2017-06-01 11:43:29,">>128001537 Private property exists so long as there are people willing to defend it, assuming there are communists in the society. After you've removed them, you don't actually have to shoot people to secure it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496317409 127977728,128001989,2017-06-01 11:44:04,">>128001808 We can abolish private property by simply removing the state's ability to enforce absentee property rights. Personal property remains unaffected.",,Anonymous,private-property.png,bOvVZE3n7UwFT2iX6Ge6fA==,US,,1496317444 127977728,128002038,2017-06-01 11:44:47,">>128001686 can you make an argument at all?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317487 127977728,128002128,2017-06-01 11:45:48,">>128001834 >you need a body that can arbitrate titles >to defend absentee ownership (private property in essence) all of these can be substituted by contract. Paying for Jamal's welfare with my tax money was never part of the deal You are the one who has no idea how any of this really works if you're going to defend an inefficient, bloated, violent monopolized bureaucracy for the sake of it without merit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317548 127977728,128002145,2017-06-01 11:46:02,">>128001934 >we'll simply kill everyone who disagrees with the idea >argumentum ad bacalum So it looks like you have no argument, and you still cannot come up with a way to enforce private property without an institution with a monopoly on force (state).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317562 127977728,128002346,2017-06-01 11:48:02,">>128002038 read the thread instead of asking to get spoonfed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317682 127977728,128002353,2017-06-01 11:48:04,">>128001808 I guess, but fashies want to filter out everything degenerate because it hurts their feelies If I wanna rip dabs and bang hookers, I should be able to do whatever I want in my own house.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496317684 127977728,128002360,2017-06-01 11:48:05,">>128002128 >defend an inefficient, bloated, violent monopolized bureaucracy for the sake of it without merit But I'm not. Unlike you, I actually oppose the state in all of its functions, which includes the protection and defense of property by absentee ownership.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317685 127977728,128002367,2017-06-01 11:48:08,">>128001934 >Private property exists oh ya? what happens if you dont pay your property taxes till the end of time?",,Anonymous,1495518972275.jpg,Q/Isd9fkW7hMThBuR8XrVw==,US,,1496317688 127977728,128002473,2017-06-01 11:49:22,">>128002360 >I actually oppose the state in all of its functions, which includes the protection and defense of property by absentee ownership. then I don't know what we're arguing about if we agree on the same thing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317762 127977728,128002596,2017-06-01 11:50:50,">>128001989 Property is not reliant on the states ability to defend it. You can protect property without the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317850 127977728,128002752,2017-06-01 11:52:31,">>128002353 Yeah. That's fine, just keep your bong tokes on the D-low.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496317951 127977728,128002852,2017-06-01 11:53:34,">>128002473 We do not agree. You want to abolish some of the state's functions where it enforces, say the rights of workers against corporations and reduces inequality. But you are perfectly happy with keeping the one statist institution that cannot otherwise exist: private property. >>128002596 You cannot protect absentee ownership without a state. You can only protect personal property without a state, because you don't need a state to protect your clothes, toothbrush, house, car, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property#Personal_versus_private_property You must be honest that you do not wish to truly abolish the state, for that would require you to do away with private property, and the only property available would be personal property. You are not libertarians, nor anarchists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496318014 127977728,128003029,2017-06-01 11:55:28,">>128002852 >You want to abolish some of the state's functions >some of the state's functions >some of the state stopped reading right there. All of the state is abolished. This is Ancap 101, right there from the name.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496318128 127977728,128003094,2017-06-01 11:56:04,">>128002852 I can have other people protect my property when I'm not around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496318164 127977728,128003241,2017-06-01 11:57:29,">>128001989 My neighbours can shoot you just as well as I can. My hired guards can do the same thing. Hell, even a larger dog is often enough.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496318249 127977728,128003372,2017-06-01 11:58:43,">>128003029 >This is Ancap 101, right there from the name. I don't care what you call yourselves and you say you want to do, because I am familiar with the arguments and the conclusions that follow lead to a society that is neither anarchistic nor anti-statist. ""anarchist"" and ""capitalism"" are irreconcilable from the start, since anarchism is opposed to all hierarchical and coercive institutions—the state merely one example among many.",,Anonymous,anarchism.png,YQ45QjOlogPxOh2zPYc+qA==,US,,1496318323 127977728,128003453,2017-06-01 11:59:39,">>128002145 I already did in my reply to another of your posts. >>128003241 There it is. Since my ownership of property I do not use seems to be incompatible with your existence, I'll gladly make sure to protect my own interests.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496318379 127977728,128003636,2017-06-01 12:01:33,">>128003094 >>128003241 Yes but how will you legitimize your property holdings against someone who owns more property, and has a bigger army that can kill all of your guards? The only way you have an agreed-upon way of legitimizing property titles is if you come up with a standard. And as soon as you have a standard, you have a central body that must enforce that standard, so it will have a monopoly on the use of force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496318493 127977728,128003762,2017-06-01 12:02:42,>>128000000,,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496318562 127977728,128003821,2017-06-01 12:03:19,">>128003372 >anarchist"" and ""capitalism"" are irreconcilable from the start >anarchism is opposed to all hierarchical and coercive institutions anarchy is freedom from state. You got the ""coercive institution"" part, but that's about it. Nothing more, nothing less. With that freedom, we build using capitalism on a voluntary, contractual basis. There is no contradiction cherrypicking quotes by the way, does not refute this. >b-but Rothbard said! he said we're not Anarchists. He's right. We're Anarcho-Capitalists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496318599 127977728,128003927,2017-06-01 12:04:21,">>128003636 The standard is don't take my shit or me n the boys will fuck you up. No state needed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496318661 127977728,128003971,2017-06-01 12:04:49,">>128002367 I'll have a standoff on my hands. Being on the defensive has its merits, but not against heavy technology that knows your exact location. I'd rather take the fight to the enemy and adopt a more flexible strategy while fighting the state. Konkin might be a bit memed up in the head, but some of his ideas hold merit. Substituting the state's functions is an effective means of resistance, especially in so-called ""liberal democracies"". Vandalism of law enforcement buildings is more risky, but it could save my ass in case that I do get found out. After that, guerilla warfare. No, I'm not that big of a LARPer to think that my semi-rural ordinary house could withstand a siege from the military. A single Božena and some ex-skinhead Balaclavas could make quick work of any defenses I've set up. That enough for you, FBI?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496318689 127977728,128004004,2017-06-01 12:05:14,">>128003636 >how will you legitimize your property holdings against someone who owns more property, and has a bigger army that can kill all of your guards by having a contract with other people to join up arms in the event of outsider threat in order to secure both of our freedom? >you have a central body that must enforce that standard uh, says who? Me and my neighbors can agree to respect each other's private property. No state needed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496318714 127977728,128004219,2017-06-01 12:07:33,">>128003636 >bigger army Pick up a history book. Using flexible tactics. If I know somebody is trying to take away my property, I'll sell/sabotage/borrow/boobytrap what I can't move and go on the offensive against them. If he loses half his men to a doormat-activated IED that fires a projectile through a narrow corridor, that's his fault.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496318853 127977728,128005065,2017-06-01 12:16:17,That it? All the shills left?,,Anonymous,Physic7_2.jpg,97OIXt0svmP78aHC5I1i/w==,US,,1496319377 127977728,128005230,2017-06-01 12:18:03,">>128005065 They ran outta arguments",,Anonymous,1494258514807.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,CA,,1496319483 127977728,128005294,2017-06-01 12:18:39,">>128005065 pretty much",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496319519 127977728,128005434,2017-06-01 12:19:55,">>128005230 They never had any arguments.",,Anonymous,arab_ball.png,uRNuxpmz3ZZ7Tesh3MVZQg==,US,,1496319595 127977728,128005521,2017-06-01 12:20:38,">>128005065 Seems like it. >mfw the proponents of majority rule lost to a handful of autists Proved my point once again.",,Anonymous,hoppe sipp.png,HytzWGVcMdAeXw/6+KQzjQ==,SK,,1496319638 127977728,128005627,2017-06-01 12:21:41,">>128005521 Lol",,Anonymous,wewuzkangznshiet.jpg,R8cA9xtfL/VGJtsnxIbfQg==,US,,1496319701 127977728,128005665,2017-06-01 12:22:07,">>128005434 >>127985821 Holy shit, way too many people are saving my shitty creations/ideas. I nominate the Founding Father to remaster them.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496319727 127977728,128005958,2017-06-01 12:24:42,Let's finish the thread off with liberty memes,,Anonymous,1494257513568.jpg,FQ2Co3lFRpNANqv/RqMw1w==,CA,,1496319882 127977728,128005978,2017-06-01 12:24:59,"we may have culled the horde at this moment, gentlemen, but know that the fight never ends it ends once we get mcnuclear launch codes",,Anonymous,1494208883324.jpg,L/YzSozFCCGI9+Xx5pgNNw==,US,,1496319899 127977728,128006008,2017-06-01 12:25:24,,,Anonymous,1494546389819.jpg,mdd51Fmezkzhhn2bpZwt8w==,CA,,1496319924 127977728,128006081,2017-06-01 12:26:14,,,Anonymous,1494565484861.jpg,8Rvao7XmMHk2tQzA8XzdOg==,CA,,1496319974 127977728,128006127,2017-06-01 12:26:41,ᴿᵒᵃᵈˢ,,Anonymous,,,IS,,1496320001 127977728,128006190,2017-06-01 12:27:21,">>128006127 ARE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496320041 127977728,128006289,2017-06-01 12:28:14,,,Anonymous,consent.png,3J5NVgHSsH0OXjk1zOPEkw==,CA,,1496320094 127977728,128006417,2017-06-01 12:29:23,">>128005665 I didn't know you made terrorist ball. But I save lots of your shit. your best content is Libertarian shit-talking AIRBORNE and such.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496320163 127977728,128006421,2017-06-01 12:29:23,,,Anonymous,1494538684707.png,Cwh2CA9LAZC6AGnIrV9zZQ==,CA,,1496320163 127977728,128006513,2017-06-01 12:30:17,">>128006190 Payed for by private companies that may benefit from using them?",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1496320217 127977728,128006549,2017-06-01 12:30:34,,,Anonymous,1495707740292.png,POQV+TK7gpq+vzSuUsaI6w==,CA,,1496320234 127977728,128006601,2017-06-01 12:31:08,,,Anonymous,1494564882921.jpg,e0PcU8WLKpYWaCXqYJt8sQ==,CA,,1496320268 127977728,128006618,2017-06-01 12:31:18,">>128006513 I like the way you think",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496320278 127977728,128006652,2017-06-01 12:31:36,,,Anonymous,1495332463459.png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,CA,,1496320296 127977728,128006693,2017-06-01 12:31:58,,,Anonymous,1494023764862.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,US,,1496320318 127977728,128006805,2017-06-01 12:32:51,">>128005978 Let them come, the horde is easy to defeat",,Anonymous,1492634146039.jpg,Q37daqbmXCP81ntzLp5rZg==,CA,,1496320371 127977728,128006888,2017-06-01 12:33:46,">>128006417 Yeah, I made it so I could shitpost about Muslims actually being low-key ancaps.",,Anonymous,memri pimps thugs.jpg,b44V2Il2YMLJYqyHuvca2g==,SK,,1496320426 127977728,128006930,2017-06-01 12:34:19,>>128006693,,Anonymous,1496198890603.jpg,F572/Kc1gkhTvD3Cj4xs/Q==,CA,,1496320459 127977728,128007074,2017-06-01 12:35:38,">>128006805 aye, more than enough space in the helicopters",,Anonymous,1494557198672.gif,Cogq75hv3P1Hj/hOR+ksPQ==,US,,1496320538 127977728,128007111,2017-06-01 12:35:55,"How NutSac idolizes this tool, I will never understand",,Anonymous,Richardi Spensov.jpg,Crp3S1bi+wJD+4biFCwa9Q==,CA,,1496320555 127977728,128007127,2017-06-01 12:36:05,">>128006190 Oh and btw it's me the founding father. >>128006888 Nice, the Hoppean trips have shown themselves. Check'd",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496320565 127977728,128007274,2017-06-01 12:37:43,">>128007074 kek",,Anonymous,1493541988440.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,CA,,1496320663 127977728,128007306,2017-06-01 12:38:06,">>128007111 That is actually borderline retardation. The so-called bourgeoisie employs their own, the kikes at the top decided to mix it up, through central planning outside of economics.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496320686 127977728,128007343,2017-06-01 12:38:26,">>128007111 they confuse capitalism with the jews if it can be made clear that capitalism =/= the jews, then we would see much higher NatSoc to AnCap conversion as we share a lot of the same ideals against degeneracy >>128007127 oh hey. what's up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496320706 127977728,128007407,2017-06-01 12:39:01,">>128007074 Chileans are officially white.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496320741 127977728,128007547,2017-06-01 12:40:52,">>128007343 I quoted the wrong post but whatever. Wassap m8. >>128007407 We need a libertarian honorary whites list. The only Jew I nominate is Rothbard Pinochet should be on the list too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496320852 127977728,128007724,2017-06-01 12:42:44,">>128007547 Isn't Mises the one who brought Rothbard up? Anyways - Sowell immediately comes to mind. That Guy T also. Whom'st'll'd've else?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496320964 127977728,128007800,2017-06-01 12:43:30,">>128007343 I don't really have a problem with degeneracy. If you want to be a degenerate freak, go do it on your own dime in your own home. As long as I'm not bank rolling it, you can be as much of a self destructive fuckwit as you want.",,Anonymous,1494865792915.png,GJY6elMy4TBb5RQ0IGIqJA==,CA,,1496321010 127977728,128007984,2017-06-01 12:45:34,,,Anonymous,1494279933472.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,CA,,1496321134 127977728,128007993,2017-06-01 12:45:38,">>128007800 yes, yes, absolutely but you must understand the NatSoc mindset in order to combat them and turn them into useful allies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496321138 127977728,128008020,2017-06-01 12:45:56,">>128007800 Eh, I'd still prefer them as far from me as possible. Do you know anal sex (especially in promiscous - read: homosexual - relationships) spreads STIs and bacterial infections at an alarming rate? Not just through sex, but also through simply touching the same surface. These infections are also very resistant to antibiotics.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496321156 127977728,128008149,2017-06-01 12:47:20,"Fun thread guys. Keep redpilling the bootlickers, they will come around, and if not we have helicopters :^)",,Anonymous,ScarySnek.png,8IPfxC7ZIimsg8zZ1sytmg==,CA,,1496321240 127977728,128008236,2017-06-01 12:48:13,">>128008020 >>128007993 fair enough",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496321293 127977728,128008335,2017-06-01 12:49:18,">>128007800 I'm fine with you being a degenerate as long as it's out of the public or far away from me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496321358 127977728,128008554,2017-06-01 12:51:39,Dibs on making new thread,,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496321499 127977728,128008655,2017-06-01 12:52:33,">>128008554 go for it my dude",,Anonymous,1494341022829.jpg,tQypJTj69WSCiczt+QHSBQ==,US,,1496321553 128009236,128009236,2017-06-01 12:58:32,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - FUCK ROADS AND FUCK YOU FOR USING THEM EDITION,Anonymous,hoppe pol logo.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,SK,,1496321912 128009236,128009291,2017-06-01 12:59:07,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1496321947 128009236,128009411,2017-06-01 13:00:14,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496322014 128009236,128009535,2017-06-01 13:01:35,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,lrg tiers.jpg,Ih5kYEktvivoO7oz5G1xhQ==,SK,,1496322095 128009236,128009612,2017-06-01 13:02:33,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,pinochet cold one.png,y/URXgHFpq0RzXLGRQ1x2Q==,SK,,1496322153 128009236,128009670,2017-06-01 13:03:11,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI",,Anonymous,hoppe ancapwave.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,SK,,1496322191 128009236,128009732,2017-06-01 13:03:49,Founding Father reporting in.,,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1496322229 128009236,128009775,2017-06-01 13:04:23,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,SK,,1496322263 128009236,128009948,2017-06-01 13:06:17,">>128009732 Wow. You not only showed up just when I was about to make a black dad joke about how you take 18 years to show up. No, you had to cuck me by posting the airborne oven just when I was about to post it to give me a duplicate warning. I blame the Jews.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496322377 128009236,128010139,2017-06-01 13:08:19,"Anyway, get the thread going without me, I'll be right back.",,Anonymous,ancom hypocrisy.png,kkob3H9NTWlOtQmF8w5Cnw==,SK,,1496322499 128009236,128010212,2017-06-01 13:08:57,">>128009775 >AK-47 on a Anarcho-CAPITALIST flag wtf man, make that an AR-15 right this instance!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496322537 128009236,128010360,2017-06-01 13:10:25,">>128009948 Lol, nice. I gotta get you a screenshot of some shit-libs complaining about your thread paste on /liberty/ they took a screenshot of your OP and bitched about right Libertarianism being too authoritarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496322625 128009236,128010435,2017-06-01 13:11:10,Read Nations by consent you shit-libs,,Anonymous,OpenBorders2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1496322670 128009236,128010454,2017-06-01 13:11:22,">>128010212 >implying we're not communist shills wow, sure smells like (((capitalism))) here remember, you're either an aryan alpha natsoc or a smelly kike communist t. ns/pol/",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496322682 128009236,128010494,2017-06-01 13:11:41,The state doesn't fight degeneracy. They create it.,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1496322701 128009236,128010536,2017-06-01 13:11:59,">>128010360 I'll be an authoritarian guy... For them.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496322719 128009236,128010567,2017-06-01 13:12:17,">>128010454 Who here liber/aryan/?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496322737 128009236,128010631,2017-06-01 13:12:54,Left libtards need to go back.,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1496322774 128009236,128010666,2017-06-01 13:13:19,">>128010360 >right Libertarianism being too authoritarian I gotta see this, in what way is right Libertarianism authoritarian when there is no state? people sure can be silly sometimes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496322799 128009236,128011100,2017-06-01 13:17:44,">>128010666 I'm phoneposting now, if you can't wait check out 8 ch's /liberty/. I'm sure it will be in the catalog. Half of them hate us. And that's pretty cool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496323064 128009236,128011202,2017-06-01 13:18:42,"Why does Slovakia make these threads now and not Portugal? just curious",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496323122 128009236,128011214,2017-06-01 13:18:50,">>128011100 ah ok no drama mate, was just wondering",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496323130 128009236,128011260,2017-06-01 13:19:21,">>128011202 Portugalbro might be busy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496323161 128009236,128011418,2017-06-01 13:20:57,">>128009236 I'd identify myself as rather libertarian but the roads thing confuses me. Could someone make the argument for me? Wouldnt trade and transportation be hindered by their non-existance?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496323257 128009236,128011950,2017-06-01 13:26:17,">>128011418 they would still exist, just funded privately on a voluntary basis",,Anonymous,1496258020652.jpg,vOPVcre0rds0GF7RR1PBYA==,US,,1496323577 128009236,128011982,2017-06-01 13:26:35,">>128011418 There would be roads if you are willing to pay for them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496323595 128009236,128012252,2017-06-01 13:29:18,">>128011950 >>128011982 No they wouldn't, you fucking commies. There is no place for roads in a free society.",,Anonymous,1491162566636.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,DE,,1496323758 128009236,128012255,2017-06-01 13:29:21,Commies aren't people.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1496323761 128009236,128012317,2017-06-01 13:30:00,">>128012252 FUGG they found out I'm a double agent. SHUT IT DOWN!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496323800 128009236,128012504,2017-06-01 13:31:55,">>128012252 shit i've been had chaim, shut it down!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496323915 128009236,128012838,2017-06-01 13:35:34,,,Anonymous,eJwNyFEOgyAMANC7cADqSkHxNgQJmikltMaPZXff3uf7mHucZjW7apcVYDsk89isKI9Ui63M9SypH2IzX5BUU96v0lQAI0UKtMTZO__Igv_Xn2iZ5uAwIuKLCO72bvw021s13x8KjCLr.png,S+yqfcOC0Wj+9gR2snLXPA==,US,,1496324134 128009236,128012881,2017-06-01 13:35:51,How do you stop gang violence from forming local government based on crime in an anarchist society?,,Anonymous,6EQwZpU.jpg,LTuSDq/6VaXD2LPJBISmWA==,GR,,1496324151 128009236,128013031,2017-06-01 13:37:24,,,Anonymous,15935.jpg,JMjJw1uS46LTOi7VkoC2uQ==,GR,,1496324244 128009236,128013155,2017-06-01 13:38:35,">>128012881 Violence. Crush the crooks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496324315 128009236,128013259,2017-06-01 13:39:40,">>128012881 we fight back but for freedom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496324380 128009236,128013413,2017-06-01 13:41:18,">>128013155 >>128013259 An uncoordinated local population would never be able to stop a group of thugs, much less any serious militia/organized criminal syndicate. I'm not talking about a nation-wide revolution, but one town at a time, like what's happening in Mexico.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1496324478 128009236,128013578,2017-06-01 13:43:10,">>128013413 Ok how about a coordinated population? It's not a nap violation to form a proper defense militia.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496324590 128009236,128013607,2017-06-01 13:43:22,">>128013413 >An uncoordinated local population why are you assuming we are uncoordinated? we don't need a state to have direction and leadership when the circumstances call for it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496324602 128009236,128013798,2017-06-01 13:45:17,This triggers the geofag. AnCap Landlords ftw.,,Anonymous,AnCap_Landlord.png,lv6tF0xgYlGukqt4Xyg3iA==,US,,1496324717 128009236,128014082,2017-06-01 13:47:49,"You claim taxation is theft, yet you do not apply this same line of reasoning to profit. Both involve the process of taking what a labourer has produced. >Profit is the taking of the surplus value of the worker's produce >Taxation is the taking of a portion of the wages of the worker It's the same idea applied to two separate bodies (Government and Capitalists). How can you claim to be against one but completely for the other >inb4 ""b-but it's voluntary!"" Like fuck it is. No one wants to work. They are just forced to do it by the Bourgeois.",,Anonymous,Marx.jpg,T/P8Nwr/+dcXuhxPc2YuxQ==,IE,,1496324869 128009236,128014144,2017-06-01 13:48:18,">>128013798 what a good lad he can probably get away with it if he's just discriminating against people who smell up the place and ruin his property, not necessarily naming the race. Shitskins still wouldn't be allowed either way, lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496324898 128009236,128014220,2017-06-01 13:48:56,,,Anonymous,boiiis.jpg,g4P8ugCYI0cVKgpRswhu6A==,US,,1496324936 128009236,128014244,2017-06-01 13:49:11,">>128014082 >They are just forced to do it by the Bourgeois. then go be homeless and beg for food, nobody is still forcing you to work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496324951 128009236,128014358,2017-06-01 13:50:12,we need to keep her from running in 2020,,Anonymous,download (74).jpg,Vf6qdLFGLlU6Q3Zae1rCcQ==,US,,1496325012 128009236,128014444,2017-06-01 13:51:06,">>128014082 >Not wanting to put your body & mind towards something larger than yourself. Fucking mexicuck.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496325066 128009236,128014521,2017-06-01 13:51:43,">>128014358 no way in hell is she gonna run on second thought, I actually kinda want her to run. It would be an easy win for Trump and she would get BTFO once more. It would be like pottery",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496325103 128009236,128014687,2017-06-01 13:53:07,">>128014521 that would be good, the democrats are getting defensive now that everyone is starting to wake up, Trump has them cornered, and this time theirs now way out for the Dems",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496325187 128009236,128014713,2017-06-01 13:53:18,">>128014082 Get a fucking job looZer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496325198 128009236,128014885,2017-06-01 13:54:58,">>128014082 first of all the Libertarian-Right has varying opinions on taxation, I support low taxes, I know taxation is necessary, however the government cannot strip me dry when there is 300 million other Americans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496325298 128009236,128014937,2017-06-01 13:55:29,">>128014687 yeah after that Kathy Griffin beheading fiasco, the Demorats are in full damage control + suicide watch literally nobody takes them seriously now except for commies and tumblrites after they went ISIS-tier",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496325329 128009236,128015045,2017-06-01 13:56:39,">>128009236 The only problem I ever had with libertarianism is not about the roads or healthcare or other shit like that but about the military. I can't imagine how could a private company be both loyal and effective enough to stand against organised authoritarian states. Please explain to me how libertarians would be able to beat the shit out of organised invaders.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1496325399 128009236,128015100,2017-06-01 13:57:07,">>128012255 Strawman. Marx's definition of private property was different than the modern definition. He distinguished between private and personal property. Private property is the means of production and businesses generally (e.g. factory, coffee shop, etc; Marx wanted these owned by the workers) whereas personal property is anything you own (e.g. laptop, TV, house, car, etc)",,Anonymous,Marxism.jpg,jsTymyh8DhOXtPlB1nqH8w==,IE,,1496325427 128009236,128015116,2017-06-01 13:57:18,">>128009236 Socialism/communism only works with whites(well civilized people, other races are not there yet) Karl marx designed communism based off white people. Introduce minorities and the system breaks, because the civilized people have to support the crying minorities. I'm all for national socialism. We are not ready to merge cultures. I personally don't think it's possible but ok.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496325438 128009236,128015203,2017-06-01 13:58:11,">>128015100 Personal property is private property, get a job. It's not that bad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496325491 128009236,128015206,2017-06-01 13:58:12,">>128014444 kek speaks",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1496325492 128009236,128015263,2017-06-01 13:58:50,">>128015203 >Anyone who has a different opinion to me has no job",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496325530 128009236,128015280,2017-06-01 13:59:04,">>128015045 well we would not privatize the military, keep it under the control of governments with limited power but if they cross their bounds then it is our duty to resist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496325544 128009236,128015396,2017-06-01 14:00:10,">>128009236 Does anyone here have the Gadsden flag with the snake wrapped around the fasces?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496325610 128009236,128015661,2017-06-01 14:02:41,">>128015263 Ok whatever, you work the counter at GameStop. I mean get a REAL job.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496325761 128009236,128015684,2017-06-01 14:02:47,">>128015280 Alright but you need manpower in that army. There are always volunteers of course but do you support draft in times of war? If you do, that sounds like breaking the NAP to me. If you don't it's very likely that your army will be too weak when shit becomes serious because only the few are willing to fight in a war.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1496325767 128009236,128015810,2017-06-01 14:03:53,"""left libertarianism""",,Anonymous,1494864201833.png,gpB6eKMB4qCmyxf58cpOlw==,GR,,1496325833 128009236,128015818,2017-06-01 14:04:02,">>128015396 Nah, shits on my PC. Best I got is Italian fascist ancap flag.",,Anonymous,AnFasces.png,pWaQLQhGrXwbFaG/dEvBfg==,US,,1496325842 128009236,128015920,2017-06-01 14:04:59,">>128014082 >inb4 ""b-but it's voluntary!"" >Like fuck it is. No one wants to work. They are just forced to do it by the Bourgeois. Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496325899 128009236,128016301,2017-06-01 14:08:42,">>128015920 Nature forces me to hunt or I will starve. >Fucking bourgeois!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496326122 128009236,128016614,2017-06-01 14:11:23,">>128015818 Thanks for posting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496326283 128009236,128016771,2017-06-01 14:12:44,">>128016301 commies BTFO",,Anonymous,1491551575483.jpg,VQm35BTCv5/+GlJX0Zi7uA==,IE,,1496326364 128009236,128016868,2017-06-01 14:13:34,"do we have an infograph about Ancap and military defense (especially outside invasion scenarios)? this question has become too common and our answers seem to be inconsistent, despite Hans-Hermann Hoppe specifically addressing this in The Private Production of Defence and The Myth of National Defense",,Anonymous,the_myth_of_national_defense.jpg,l4fCTa/Nv5o+G/7bAiLOpQ==,US,,1496326414 128009236,128016934,2017-06-01 14:14:06,">>128014082 >No one wants to work. They are just forced to do it by the Bourgeois. So your solution is ... no one working? >B-But everyone WANTS to work for the common good! You just said ""No one wants to work."" >If they don't they can't take part in our society! So they are still ""forced"", but this time by a collective.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496326446 128009236,128017010,2017-06-01 14:14:37,">>128014082 >Choose to do something >'It's not voluntary because you don't enjoy it 24/7' rlly fires those electrodes",,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,GB,,1496326477 128009236,128017333,2017-06-01 14:17:34,">>128016868 It's a shit debate. War doesn't care about ideology. I usually site hoppe's ""production of private defense"" tho. If someone could get me some short solid arguments I'd make the infographic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496326654 128009236,128017523,2017-06-01 14:19:06,">>128017333 >>128016868 I'd also love this, the question comes up a lot and I feel like 'go read this book' isnt a good response.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496326746 128009236,128017691,2017-06-01 14:20:38,">>128017333 >tfw started the ethics of private property isntead of the myth of national defense and I'm too autistic to read two books in a row sorry also frenchbro here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496326838 128009236,128018096,2017-06-01 14:24:14,">>128015045 I appreciate your healthy enthusiasm. To answer your question, all I can say is that loyalty is subjective and people in private militias can still be absolutely loyal to the cause of freedom not just for themselves, but for their fellow man, and for their children. I also see that you made a distinction between ""organized authoritarian states"" and ""organized invaders."" Are you implying that private militias cannot be organized in ancap? They can most certainly coordinate tactics and cooperate with each other to secure each other's freedom, especially temporary as a contract during a time of war or immediate threat. Furthermore, the richest nations are capitalist as capitalism promotes wealth. Ancapistan would be very, extremely wealthy, and that wealth can still be used to privately research, develop, produce, and manufacture a lot of the essential military technology like advanced firearms, tanks, planes, ships, battlecruisers, bombers, etc. You may even see advanced military technology like mechas for all you know -- the research is no longer centrally managed so people can develop what they want and sell it if it's good, instead of getting bogged down by bureaucracy. Then there's McNukes. Nuclear deterrence is still possible in ancap, so direct warfare may not even be necessary. Ancapistan can definitely hold her own in time of war",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496327054 128009236,128018226,2017-06-01 14:25:41,">>128015684 I support the draft, but only in a national emergency, like if we were being invaded by a totalitarian state, although that might prove unnecessary as I believe most Americans would fight a occupier if it was at their doorstep.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496327141 128009236,128018327,2017-06-01 14:26:34,">>128015396 I got you",,Anonymous,hoppe libertarianism.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,SK,,1496327194 128009236,128018599,2017-06-01 14:28:42,">>128011202 Portubro has 24/7 siesta, it seems. Leave it to the Easterners to work their asses off, smdhtbhfam.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496327322 128009236,128018709,2017-06-01 14:29:36,https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1495615052566.webm,,Anonymous,1492173480792.jpg,ElyzszMR6BICrpUoLW5qog==,DK,,1496327376 128009236,128018757,2017-06-01 14:30:03,">>128010567 >libertarianism >not the whitest movement there is wew lad",,Anonymous,boo nigga.jpg,5cxl9Ffgop4auQ/b0Sx4Qw==,SK,,1496327403 128009236,128018789,2017-06-01 14:30:24,">>128017333 >>128017523 the solid short argument you could say is to counter the usual misconception and assumptions people have about ancap Just make it clear that we CAN still be organized like any other army as private militias cooperating and coordinating each other in desperate time of war to protect each other's freedom. We CAN still have advanced military tech like any other army in the world because wealth can easily be used fund such things when necessary. We CAN still have the manpower instead of a draft, because people would naturally be interested to protect their home if its under threat. People assume we are defenseless, protecting ourselves with nothing but ourselves as citizens with guns. This is false. Privately-funded militias can be done on a contractual basis, and they can absolutely stand against others in formal military settings you can end with memes about the McNuke and private nuclear deterrence",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496327424 128009236,128018942,2017-06-01 14:31:35,">>128014082 Yeah I'd love to see the labourer make the same product in the same quantities without my machinery. If he can accomplish that, he can damn well feed himself already. Also, I'm not giving up what I own.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496327495 128009236,128019253,2017-06-01 14:34:20,">>128014082 Also, there is no coersion from the employer, and if there is, the worker is protected by the law (read The Law by Bastiat if you think ""law"" is incompatible with libertarianism). The thing that forces the workers to work is the market, which is the social force of nature. The opportunity cost of sitting on your ass is way greater 99% of the time.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496327660 128009236,128019993,2017-06-01 14:40:19,,,Anonymous,Master_Race_0.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1496328019 128009236,128020310,2017-06-01 14:42:52,">>128016868 >>128017333 I'll put something together.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496328172 128009236,128020703,2017-06-01 14:45:47,">>128020310 god bless you Slovakbro you and the Founding Father have been boons to the more artistically challenged among us incapable of making decent infographs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496328347 128009236,128021351,2017-06-01 14:51:19,">>128020310 Right on, if you need me to put it into a dank image lemme know.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496328679 128009236,128021372,2017-06-01 14:51:28,">>128020703 Nah, I don't make many infographs or stuff of the sorts. I'm more of a thinking guy. FF's real good at drawing stuff, though. Imagine how cool it would be if we got Hoppean Snake Memes' admin on here. I know he shills himself on here, I hope he's noticed our threads.",,Anonymous,snek human rights.jpg,WzxOo1i9qyBbnLUcrz39jQ==,SK,,1496328688 128009236,128021904,2017-06-01 14:55:39,">>128021372 I gotta make a kikebook account to hit him up. They disabled the account I made when they found out I wasn't really Hans Hoppe. I'm sure we could bully him into showing up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496328939 128009236,128022508,2017-06-01 15:00:03,">>128021904 >They disabled the account I made when they found out I wasn't really Hans Hoppe holy kek, kikebook does that now? did the real Hans-Hoppe flag you or something? I still wonder what Hans thinks about all this, that he's now transcended into a meme worshiped in an obscure corner of the internet. What if he pulls a Hayao Miyazaki and say that Hoppean Libertarianism was a mistake?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496329203 128009236,128022977,2017-06-01 15:03:44,">>128022508 I don't know what happened. I had the account for five minutes. I think Hoppe is more in the know than he let's off. He's kinda PC in the way he alludes to more hardcore right wing things but isn't explicit. Anyway I'm sure he's googled himself before he's got to have seen some memes.",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1496329424 128009236,128023945,2017-06-01 15:11:00,">>128021351 Go ahead, lad.",,Anonymous,lrg war.png,tRMUExZWMg6+EusS9aE7fA==,SK,,1496329860 128009236,128024649,2017-06-01 15:16:05,"discord /42shYC book club, starting on monday.",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-no-crime-to-be-ignorant-of-economics-which-is-after-all-a-specialized-discipline-and-one-murray-rothbard-263126.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,US,,1496330165 128009236,128024758,2017-06-01 15:16:53,">>128023945 Nice, >>128024649 Whatcha gonna read first?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496330213 128009236,128024780,2017-06-01 15:16:59,">>128024649 https://discordapp.com/privacy shoo shoo CIAnigger",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1496330219 128009236,128024924,2017-06-01 15:18:01,">>128023945 eh, good shot but that doesn't seem particularly compelling when you're stating that militarily speaking, we're no better than sandniggers and shitskins and must submit to outsider intervention in order to resist, instead of just defending ourselves from the go I'll try and see if I can make my own meme pic then, since I was thinking more in massive militaries, modern armies, tanks, bombers, battlecruisers, and mcnukes in formal warfare instead of something cheesy like >guerrilla warfare seems like you're just admitting there there would be absolute decentralized power and lack of central organization even in war, instead of temporary contractual agreements for pure military strength to repel invasion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496330281 128009236,128025211,2017-06-01 15:19:56,">>128024924 Well yeah, this is a worst case scenario.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496330396 128009236,128025465,2017-06-01 15:21:42,">>128024649 What book are we discussing first? Also do we go full Irregulars and raid other people's chatrooms?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496330502 128009236,128027047,2017-06-01 15:32:36,,,Anonymous,ancap_andy_commies_matt_furie.png,NN7furIBj4aVxZ0usDFpFQ==,US,,1496331156 128009236,128027221,2017-06-01 15:33:43,"could a fellow Hoppean anon kindly shop pic related into Hans Hermann-Hoppe? going to use it as a background for something",,Anonymous,dr_strangelove.jpg,NSiVVHLzD1MNZpz0Uf1sIA==,US,,1496331223 128009236,128027615,2017-06-01 15:36:10,">>128027221 I have the skills, but i ain't by a PC right now. If you're cool with stopping by later or in another thread I'll post it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496331370 128009236,128028381,2017-06-01 15:40:03,">>128027615 no problem I think we've got potential here is all",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496331603 128009236,128028798,2017-06-01 15:42:30,"Made this two months back, didn't polish it up because of laziness but thoughts?",,Anonymous,Ancap maryland.png,u0JPirnjnB3kwt/2s7+1lg==,US,,1496331750 128009236,128029082,2017-06-01 15:44:16,">>128028798 I remember seeing this in a /pol/ dream flags thread. P.sweet dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496331856 128009236,128029239,2017-06-01 15:45:11,">>128028798 surprisingly less ugly than the normal MD flag t. former marylander",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496331911 128009236,128029913,2017-06-01 15:49:04,"My problem is with the moralistic ancap who argues against taxation with ""muh NAP"" and sanctifies private property, arguing against any sort of public enforcement of standards with ""violence is unethical"" while totally ignoring the violent origins of private property. I don't have a problem with those origins myself, I just think the argument by NAP is doomed to fall apart when someone points this out and so is not really good. ""Muh Indians"" is all it takes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496332144 128009236,128030656,2017-06-01 15:53:18,">>128029913 >Property is originated in violence. How so?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496332398 128009236,128032724,2017-06-01 16:04:51,">>128027221 I suck at photoshop neat idea though",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496333091 128009236,128032897,2017-06-01 16:05:42,">>128029913 What if we just completely reset all capital or make a one-time redistribution before adopting ancap? Do you think this would solve the problem and make the property more ""just""?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496333142 128009236,128033590,2017-06-01 16:09:48,">>128030656 How else are others forced to recognize property rights? A group of men conquer land, create law, enforce law, and allow market competition so that they can collect rents through taxation, and benefit from all the trade that happens in their province as the bourgeouis are attracted to their land. They do not ask, ""what is my right to prevent those merchants from abroad to sell opium to my people"". They put a stop to the practice using force if necessary because of its ill effects. Why were Indians not recognized as owners? It was just more profitable to kill them and take their land. They never would have wanted to compete in the market. They viewed it as a disgrace and something that destroyed their autonomy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496333388 128009236,128033689,2017-06-01 16:10:24,">>128029913 >""Muh Indians"" is all it takes. I don't understand, what about the Indians? They were a race of bloody savages who had little concept of private property and routinely got into war beheading, raping, and enslaving each other. The few that were peaceful, they interbred or made alliances and then died out from disease. They just couldn't compete. Still NAP compatible because we were willing to cooperate unless our private property was treaded on, which indians regularly did because they had little concept of it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496333424 128009236,128034406,2017-06-01 16:14:56,">>128033590 >How else are others forced to recognize property rights? By communicating with them? We did not force them into accepting private property, because they hardly understood what private property was about to begin with. It was unclaimed land precisely because the indians never bothered formally claiming it themselves, and when they did, they traded it for fucking beads. >Why were Indians not recognized as owners? Because they didn't recognize themselves as owners? They had wars with each other man, they were nomadic and had no need for established private property. They were essentially animals with no concrete sense of ownership",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496333696 128009236,128036133,2017-06-01 16:26:25,">>128015116 >Socialism/communism only works with whites lol no if some people in your society are paid to do nothing but redistributing money they don't produce anything valuable so your society as a whole is poorer, nothing to do with whites, it doesn't work period",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496334385 128009236,128038473,2017-06-01 16:43:59,"Bump. Commies make me fucking sick.",,Anonymous,1495824504850.jpg,a4PBiO6dA3lGuhqtcANd3w==,US,,1496335439 128009236,128038887,2017-06-01 16:46:46,,,Anonymous,15420986_10100459173461539_5358652656821799746_n.jpg,gjm5N12fS0kVmkLiORWcKw==,US,,1496335606 128009236,128038987,2017-06-01 16:47:29,,,Anonymous,lrg_flamethrower.png,Zq0uGjcgUHq153vCHzc7WA==,US,,1496335649 128149805,128149805,2017-06-02 11:46:16,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: TURN UP THE ROTORS EDITION,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1496403976 128149805,128149861,2017-06-02 11:46:43,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,ancap squad.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1496404003 128149805,128149908,2017-06-02 11:47:11,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,mises pepe background_00000.png,NvjTZFFZD0ZW9acJvKw1vg==,PT,,1496404031 128149805,128149948,2017-06-02 11:47:29,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,rothbard pepe background.png,bpD/5X+4RxtFaYSW+EyrzQ==,PT,,1496404049 128149805,128149982,2017-06-02 11:47:49,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,you talkin to me.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,PT,,1496404069 128149805,128150029,2017-06-02 11:48:16,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI",,Anonymous,based anime ancap grill.png,SoP5d3E8mNpq9UkRDRPqPA==,PT,,1496404096 128149805,128150228,2017-06-02 11:50:00,">>128149805 Chris Cantwell is a fucking joke though mate.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1496404200 128149805,128150314,2017-06-02 11:50:50,">>128149805 heya portubro",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496404250 128149805,128150334,2017-06-02 11:50:58,">>128150228 He's great at rants and actually knows what he's talking about in my opinion.",,Anonymous,cecilia.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1496404258 128149805,128150405,2017-06-02 11:51:35,">>128150314 Sup Frenchbro. How is Henry de Lesquen doing? Has he banned negro music yet?",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute 2.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,PT,,1496404295 128149805,128151219,2017-06-02 11:59:17,">>128150334 He was a total embarrassment on (what was it?) Colbert Show or something. Made it way too easy to make fun of him.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1496404757 128149805,128151405,2017-06-02 12:00:49,">>128150405 right now he is lowering the number of congoïds and burning the labour code irl he has celebrated his 10 000 subscribers on youtube but he created a new twitter count because he got shoad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_DoZTzUQD8",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496404849 128149805,128151587,2017-06-02 12:02:21,">>128151405 LMAO He even put in pepes and anime icons. top fucking kek, what a madman",,Anonymous,hoppe secessionism.png,oIrCczKEYERrjVyeunvHKg==,PT,,1496404941 128149805,128151686,2017-06-02 12:03:12,">>128151219 I don't think CC has ever gone into a mainstream talkshow. You're not confusing him with Milo Yiannopoulos who went on Bill Maher?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1496404992 128149805,128152001,2017-06-02 12:05:59,">>128151686 ...Those two could not be more different. And no, it was Colbert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vQ5h8iWa0Q",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1496405159 128149805,128152152,2017-06-02 12:07:23,">>128152001 No wait, not that one. He was definitely on one of them though, a load of the more gun-interested libertarians were pissed off cos he muzzle-swept someone during it.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1496405243 128149805,128152438,2017-06-02 12:09:48,">>128152152 This is annoying me now. Can't find it.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1496405388 128149805,128152526,2017-06-02 12:10:42,">>128152001 >>128152152 >>128152438 don't worry. but who cares what Colbert thinks about? His only audience are politically braindead adults. Who cares.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1496405442 128149805,128152652,2017-06-02 12:11:44,">>128152526 I agree, but a lot of libertarians are former leftists, myself included, and he really didn't help the cause.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1496405504 128149805,128152721,2017-06-02 12:12:25,"Wassup Helicopter Bros? Who in the LRG crowd knows about the Dark Enlightenment/Neoreaction? Has anyone else gone ""from Mises to Carlyle?"" the Dark Enlightenment is essentially a mutation of libertarianism that stresses anti-egalitiarianism and sees ORDER as more important than LIBERTY, so it seems that right-wing libertarians would naturally be drawn to it. The thought leaders are Mencius Moldbug and Nick Land. The motto is ""No Voice, Free Exit,"" and the plan is to run governments like joint stock corporations which compete for residents. I have included a link to the ""Mises to Caryle"" article and to the ""Neoreactionary Canon,"" which contains all essential Dark Enlightenment writings. I would love to get a discussion going about this ""post-libertarian"" philosophy! http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010/02/from-mises-to-carlyle-my-sick-journey.html Neoreactionary Canon: jbboehr.github.io/NeoreactionaryCanon.epub/NeoreactionaryCanon.pdf",,Anonymous,neo.jpg,EiidNyXMv219eMIrHyrwSg==,US,,1496405545 128149805,128152799,2017-06-02 12:13:08,">>128149805 I appreciate these lrg generals... I'm starting to read again after being delusional of seeing left-libertarians destroy the west.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496405588 128149805,128153527,2017-06-02 12:19:36,">>128151587 he is made of pure memetics",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496405976 128149805,128154164,2017-06-02 12:24:56,">>128152721 I know what it is and I've been dying to read more Moldbug and some of Land's cocaine-fueled writings. >The motto is ""No Voice, Free Exit,"" and the plan is to run governments like joint stock corporations which compete for residents. I 1000000% percent agree with this. It's neo-monarchism or neo-cameralism or whatever you want to call it. I haven't gone from Mises to Carlyle, since I believe Hoppean libertarianism is the end-game, but NRx is totally compatible with it.",,Anonymous,ancap pill.png,aX49el4Vl4itokoEAZIhww==,PT,,1496406296 128149805,128154585,2017-06-02 12:28:22,"Unlike you Right-wing Libertarians, we Left-wing Libertarians actually have revolutions. Have fun LARPing about helicopters while your precious NAP forbids murder, autists. Fuck your property",,Anonymous,Libertarian Left.png,D9Q5IRwpODHh+1iObvOPTw==,IE,,1496406502 128149805,128154606,2017-06-02 12:28:35,"Bump for the best thread on /pol/ >>128150228 Cantwell is ourguy as fuck. What's your beef with him?",,Anonymous,chriscantwell.jpg,5u8Y+9COhp282tjuyJWfKA==,US,,1496406515 128149805,128154734,2017-06-02 12:29:39,">>128154585 The nap Forbids murder, but not killing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496406579 128149805,128154996,2017-06-02 12:32:13,">>128154734 It prevents aggression. You can't kill us but we can kill you",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496406733 128149805,128155047,2017-06-02 12:32:48,">>128154996 Yes we can.",,Anonymous,pinochet meme.jpg,lX0xIHpVvM5WWOOGWQmU/A==,PT,,1496406768 128149805,128155100,2017-06-02 12:33:19,">>128154585 Modern Left-wing Libertarian revolutionary",,Anonymous,9eef2504c872f6672f32776942d92d0b64dde449cc085d1c71d968359891dc3c.jpg,pVUYICvW6UJTonDhzlXaTw==,US,,1496406799 128149805,128155142,2017-06-02 12:33:34,">>128154996 but by trying to kill us we can kill you",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496406814 128149805,128155273,2017-06-02 12:34:40,">>128149805 This triggers the ancap",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1496406880 128149805,128155285,2017-06-02 12:34:49,">>128154585 >we Left-wing Libertarians actually have revolutions and they always fail unless they become totalitarian *cough* Paris commune *cough*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496406889 128149805,128155296,2017-06-02 12:34:53,">>128154996 It's perfectly within non aggression to kill commie scum like yourself. Ethics only apply to the ethical, of which you have admitted you are not.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1496406893 128149805,128155314,2017-06-02 12:35:01,">>128154996 >but we can kill you you know self-defense is a thing right? You strike, and strike back harder",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496406901 128149805,128155395,2017-06-02 12:35:42,">>128155273 >one is legitimate the others isn't",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496406942 128149805,128155403,2017-06-02 12:35:49,">>128155273 This triggers the geofag. AnCap Landlords ftw.",,Anonymous,AnCap_Landlord.png,lv6tF0xgYlGukqt4Xyg3iA==,US,,1496406949 128149805,128155485,2017-06-02 12:36:26,">>128154585 >flag there's literally one of you on this board irish flag every.single.time",,Anonymous,1496174985739.jpg,wMTAcZhI5jiAsH/Cbg2mIw==,US,,1496406986 128149805,128155565,2017-06-02 12:37:06,">>128154606 he's dumb and an ethnonationalist that's all the reason I need",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496407026 128149805,128155639,2017-06-02 12:37:49,"Btw wassap portubro, me n slovakia were wondering when you'd show up again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496407069 128149805,128155671,2017-06-02 12:38:00,">>128154996 the second you get uppity we are merely engaging in self defense by splitting your skull with a rifle butt",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496407080 128149805,128155798,2017-06-02 12:39:13,">>128155565 Lol okay whatever.",,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1496407153 128149805,128155846,2017-06-02 12:39:38,">>128155395 So whomever finds it first gets to keep it forever regardless of whether they use it or not? And they are also allowed to profit off of state granted titles in land? Why are ancaps for state granted privileges again? I dont think you understand natural rights senpai read pic related and educate yourself",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1496407178 128149805,128155982,2017-06-02 12:41:08,">>128155671 >>128155485 >>128155296 >>128155285 >>128155314 Pathetic Bourgeois scum. What are you going to do, hire a private police force that all of the Capitalists have already bought and paid for? Oh, I know! You'll voluntarily form a militia, right? Oh wait, no you won't because the Capitalists will have disarmed you already.....",,Anonymous,smuggy.png,c2XxFM3OOEolNwYWImv+Nw==,IE,,1496407268 128149805,128156072,2017-06-02 12:42:05,">>128155846 >So whomever finds it first gets to keep it forever regardless of whether they use it or not? what's the point of not using it ? you can build a house on it,a farm,a bunker owning land is very useful >And they are also allowed to profit off of state granted titles in land? never said that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496407325 128149805,128156181,2017-06-02 12:43:07,">>128155982 >Oh wait, no you won't because the Capitalists will have disarmed you already.... >the democrats are capitalists now",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496407387 128149805,128156213,2017-06-02 12:43:23,">>128155982 Speak for yourself potatocuck. I'm well armed. What about yourself? Got some rocks to throw at the cops?",,Anonymous,9F1A9B07_A14B_4F25_A25D_76C15C067A1B_3061_000004786CB7E6C6.jpg,6dR2xQWwsYRHTncRCjVPHg==,US,,1496407403 128149805,128156260,2017-06-02 12:43:51,">>128155982 >Capitalists will have disarmed you already >being disarmed in Ancapistan >ever waow lad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496407431 128149805,128156449,2017-06-02 12:45:41,">>128156213 >tfw you're a frog so you can only have rifles and shotguns with a shitton of years to wait being french and libertarian is suffering",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496407541 128149805,128156458,2017-06-02 12:45:46,">>128154585 >“One of these centuries,” said Danneskjöld, turning to them for a moment, “the brutes, private or public, who believe that they can rule their betters by force, will learn the lesson of what happens when brute force encounters mind and force.” Get McNuked, you pathetic parasites",,Anonymous,atlantis aint free 01.png,KdhOGLTChgjPiJOj3sWUfA==,ZA,,1496407546 128149805,128156472,2017-06-02 12:45:56,What do you lads do here?,,Anonymous,,,IS,,1496407556 128149805,128156526,2017-06-02 12:46:29,">>128156181 >>128156213 >>128156260 >He think the Bourgeoisie won't just have more power to disarm him now that the politician middle man is out of the way of the big Corporations.",,Anonymous,Smug.jpg,2choflKm4dph0lVdqIRj9Q==,IE,,1496407589 128149805,128156571,2017-06-02 12:46:56,">>128156472 Circle jerk about roads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496407616 128149805,128156762,2017-06-02 12:48:47,">>128156526 >He doesn't realise large corporations are the best friend of large government",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496407727 128149805,128156776,2017-06-02 12:48:53,">>128156526 >thinks big corporations have the same power as the state hahah potato",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496407733 128149805,128156778,2017-06-02 12:48:54,">>128156526 Yeah I do think that. They've got the cash, but we have the numbers and the guns. Plus I'm sure the state currency will maintain it's value without the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496407734 128149805,128156796,2017-06-02 12:49:02,">>128156526 >he thinks a workers union can't do the same",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496407742 128149805,128156800,2017-06-02 12:49:04,">>128156526 >no politician to disarm me as a central force of authority >b-but you will still be disarmed somehow! do you even read what you type",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496407744 128149805,128156823,2017-06-02 12:49:16,">>128156526 >politician middle man who passes anticompetitive legislation because big business bribes him is somehow in the way of big business",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496407756 128149805,128156990,2017-06-02 12:50:53,">>128156526 >Corporation A sends a McDeath Squad to take away muh guns >At my door they are met by a squad of Police™ from Corporation B >Corporation B realizes that by protecting me, they will keep my subscription and profit off it >Corporation A realizes that disarming me isn't worth their money and their employees' lives >Everyone goes their own way, no violence needed",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496407853 128149805,128157188,2017-06-02 12:52:58,">>128156762 >>128156776 >>128156778 >>128156796 >>128156800 >>128156796 >>128156823 >He thinks that even without Government large Corporations like Google, Microsoft, Apple, Sony and Walmart won't continue to dominate Oh yeah? Who's going to use their alternatives? They have such a large market share for a reason Nobody uses AVG search engine or Bing. It's all Google, fedoras. You're just swapping State coercion for Corporate coercion. And you can't vote a sociopathic Corporate Executive out.",,Anonymous,Consider the following.png,jOhf4mMI3rPOJOHlh1/7Jg==,IE,,1496407978 128149805,128157363,2017-06-02 12:54:41,">>128157188 >They have such a large market share for a reason Because they provide a good service? And if they cease to provide a good service they will no longer have a large market share?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496408081 128149805,128157544,2017-06-02 12:56:14,">>128157188 >Nobody uses AVG search engine or Bing. It's all Google, fedoras. Their.fucking.problems,also >he unirocally believe in the too big to fail meme",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496408174 128149805,128157615,2017-06-02 12:56:52,">>128157188 >corporate coercion >sociopathic CEOs IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRODUCT DON'T BUY IT >tfw i'm an ebil CEO and the worst I can do to take my sociopathy out on the world is make Windows 10 force updates when you've got 12 spreadsheets open",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496408212 128149805,128157961,2017-06-02 13:00:06,">>128157188 >you can't vote a sociopathic Corporate Executive out wtf are you a cuck that believes in democracy? we just stop giving him money if he goes bad and watch his business flop if he stops delivering the goods. He can't force us to give him money anymore unlike a state, no resources, no survival",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496408406 128149805,128158090,2017-06-02 13:01:22,">>128157615 Union leaders are regularly assassinated by Corporations in under-developed countries, and cartels regularly murder their opposition. What the fuck makes you think they wouldn't seize the opportunity to make your life a living hell? Are you trying to tell me that the police force wouldn't be bought and paid for? The army? Please. As Noam Chomsky said, the idea that a contract between a Bourgeois employer and his starving subject is voluntary is a sick joke.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496408482 128149805,128158145,2017-06-02 13:01:53,">>128157188 >literally identifies as a libertarian while arguing for totalitarian controls of people's economic decisions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496408513 128149805,128158268,2017-06-02 13:03:00,">>128157961 >No resources Except enough money to buy large shares in the market and enough influence to buy private militias. If you think Corporations don't have influence outside the domain of their market specialty you clearly haven't been paying attention to American politics",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496408580 128149805,128158566,2017-06-02 13:05:51,">>128158145 >Totalitarian control No that's what you want. We Left-Libertarians want totally decentralised, non-hierarchical economic communes.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496408751 128149805,128158651,2017-06-02 13:06:33,">>128158268 you mean the politics that involve the state? >hurr durr cancer and the human body both exist together, so clearly we need to eradicate the human body as much aa the cancer lefty logic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496408793 128149805,128158769,2017-06-02 13:07:38,">>128158090 >slaving subject This meme needs to die. You're not a ""slave"" to your employer just because you don't receive the full revenue from the product you make. >“When you work in a modern factory, you are paid, not only for your labor, but for all the productive genius which has made that factory possible: for the work of the industrialist who built it, for the work of the investor who saved the money to risk on the untried and the new, for the work of the engineer who designed the machines of which you are pushing the levers, for the work of the inventor who created the product which you spend your time on making, for the work of the scientist who discovered the laws that went into the making of that product, for the work of the philosopher who taught men how to think and whom you spend your time denouncing. >“The machine, the frozen form of a living intelligence, is the power that expands the potential of your life by raising the productivity of your time. If you worked as a blacksmith in the mystics’ Middle Ages, the whole of your earning capacity would consist of an iron bar produced by your hands in days and days of effort. How many tons of rail do you produce per day if you work for Hank Rearden [an industrialist who invents a new metal, if you haven't read Atlas Shrugged]? Would you dare to claim that the size of your pay check was created solely by your physical labor and that those rails were the product of your muscles? The standard of living of that blacksmith is all that your muscles are worth; the rest is a gift from Hank Rearden."" Also, the whole idea behind AnCap is that there isn't a single police, judiciary, army etc. that can be bought. If there's a market for the protection of the rights of workers, then some enterprising businessman will exploit it by providing such a service and profiting off it.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496408858 128149805,128158788,2017-06-02 13:07:46,">>128158566 yeah and the way you get there is by murdering people who disagree with you you even felatted the ""revolution"" faggotry you're just a bloodthirsty tyrant with a fag accent",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496408866 128149805,128158850,2017-06-02 13:08:27,">>128158651 That's not the point. The point is that your argument that Corporations would have no ability to buy factors of aggression such as private police or militias goes against empirical reality.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496408907 128149805,128158912,2017-06-02 13:09:08,">>128158090 >Union leaders are regularly assassinated breaks the NAP, there will be consequences for this >cartels regularly murder their opposition cartels inherently break the NAP just by existing because they operate on violence, they will be the first to be thrown out of helicopters >What the fuck makes you think they wouldn't seize the opportunity to make your life a living hell? because I'm not a paranoid cuck who gets triggered at the thought that some people are more successful than them in business? >Are you trying to tell me that the police force wouldn't be bought and paid for? The army? >hurr private police and private militias are bad just because i say so they're ""bought"" and ""paid for"" by the common people that fund them, meaning they're obliged to serve those people or they don't get funding >As Noam Chomsky said, the idea that a contract between a Bourgeois employer and his starving subject is voluntary is a sick joke. not an argument >>128158268 >you clearly haven't been paying attention to American politics oh yeah, american politics that have a STATE and CENTRAL GOVERNMENT in them to give these people SPECIAL FAVORS and PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT you've just proved me right when you brought up US politics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496408948 128149805,128158963,2017-06-02 13:09:32,">>128155273 You obviously don't understand our stance on taxation and land-ownership. Fuck off with your shitty ideology, geofag",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496408972 128149805,128159276,2017-06-02 13:12:32,">>128158788 >Regularly LARPs about murdering Leftists with helicopters >Complains about others going on about revolution >>128158769 You don't need the Capitalist exploiting you through theft of your surplus value in order to invest in the business which you operate. It's not like more money is added when it goes to the boss as was originally there when you produced said item. Let the worker keep all of the revenue and decide for himself if he wants to invest in the business, with the workers controlling the means of production. Why should I have to give my excess revenue value to the Capitalist? This is the exact same argument you Right Libertarians have against government with taxation, yet when it comes to private companies it's okay.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496409152 128149805,128159424,2017-06-02 13:13:42,">>128158566 In AnCap, there's nothing to stop you having your communes - as long as everyone who signs up does so of their own free will. The difference is that in AnCap you will not be permitted to FORCE anyone to give up their labor or property to you - you will not be able to ENSLAVE the productive people. Do you think the best, most intelligent, hardest working, most productive people will choose to join your communes and work to pay for your weed and vidya? Or will they choose to get a job in a business and earn a salary, or start their own business? Your entire ideology is nothing but a thin veil for being able to put the true workers - industrialists, businessmen, doctors, engineers, scientists, anyone who aspires to something better - in chains to support YOUR OWN worthless existence. And then you have the gall to call US selfish.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496409222 128149805,128159708,2017-06-02 13:16:22,">>128158912 Who is going to bring about these consequences? Wolves don't care about ""muh nap"". They'll eat you without any moral permission. I wish'd you'd all stop using ""voluntary"", ""violence"", ""NAP"" as arguments in themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496409382 128149805,128159821,2017-06-02 13:17:30,">>128158912 >breaks the NAP, there will be consequences for this Consequences? Inflicted upon them by who? You do realise that in this society you've basically just created a private government, right? Do you think that these huge Corporations that curried favour with government will suddenly see their market value and share nosedive over night? No, they'll obviously find other ways to strangle competition, and if that means assassinating the competition don't think for a second these sociopaths would be above that. They do it all the time in third world countries. >they're ""bought"" and ""paid for"" by the common people that fund them, meaning they're obliged to serve those people or they don't get funding Hmm, who will these listen to: >The man will millions/billions at his disposal >The cucks with a half empty packet of chewing gum and $5 >not an argument Yes, it is. It destroys your entire ideology of faux-voluntaryism.",,Anonymous,Alcohol.jpg,235NpIJUxfsk8Pk3wRgsOA==,IE,,1496409450 128149805,128159988,2017-06-02 13:18:50,">>128159708 there will be entire companies dedicated to putting down wolves, paid for by the people you are claiming will b e helpless",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496409530 128149805,128160092,2017-06-02 13:19:45,">>128159988 As if the Proletariat have an infinite amount of resources in comparison with the Bourgeoisie. Delusional.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496409585 128149805,128160206,2017-06-02 13:20:56,">>128159276 >Why should I have to give my excess revenue value to the Capitalist? Because it was his work, his effort, his managerial expertise, his willingness to take risks, his mind, that created the factory that allows you to produce 100 times what you could produce on your own. If you yourself have the mind and the ambition to do what he did, there is nothing stopping you in a free market - and, in fact, many of the great industrialists of the economically free 19th century did in fact begin at the bottom and accomplish great productive feats by pure ability. If you and a bunch of other workers think you can do what he did, there is nothing stopping you from saving up collectively and doing it. However, you can't lay claim to the profits and the capital that you, yourself, in fact, in reality, DID NOT produce - regardless of any little ideas you might have about whether you 'could' have done it.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496409656 128149805,128160551,2017-06-02 13:24:07,">>128160092 Enjoy you mass democratic dictatorship. What makes you think other ""proletariat"" will give a shit about respecting your ""personal property""?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496409847 128149805,128160739,2017-06-02 13:25:47,">>128159821 >Consequences? Inflicted upon them by who? privative courts nigga >You do realise that in this society you've basically just created a private government, right? yes, private, voluntary government, now you're getting it >Do you think that these huge Corporations that curried favour with government will suddenly see their market value and share nosedive over night? are you assuming that it will nosedive? The successful businesses will continue t prosper as always >No, they'll obviously find other ways to strangle competition, and they do that by making a better and more appealing product than them >if that means assassinating the competition don't think for a second these sociopaths would be above that. yeah which is more likely: assassinating someone, breaking the NAP, incurring all the consequences OR just use that time and money to develop a better product instead hmmmm >They do it all the time in third world countries. because government lets them get away with it >Yes, it is. It destroys your entire ideology of faux-voluntaryism. nice non-argument, faggot wait hold on a minute, you're that left-libertarian from yesterday who made that shitty left-libertarian thread that got absolutely shat on by everyone right? holy shit lmfao",,Anonymous,1494023256160.png,RYaT4fFYY+vx3eFWKAPOeg==,US,,1496409947 128149805,128160944,2017-06-02 13:27:39,">>128159276 >Why should I have to give my excess revenue value to the Capitalist? If this were not permitted, owners of capital would have no reason to invest and the economy would be crippled. >exploiting you through theft Moralistic framing just obscures the reality. Without that ""theft"" nobody will invest. You will be conquered by those with stronger economies. >Let the worker keep all of the revenue and decide for himself if he wants to invest in the business, with the workers controlling the means of production. Workers won't be able to run the business well democratically. If labor is necessary for ownership, your firm is not going to obtain capital investment. Companies without the restrictive ethic will recieve investment and beat you. >This is the exact same argument you Right Libertarians have against government with taxation, yet when it comes to private companies it's okay. You are right, and they are wrong to make that argument. There needs to be an incentive for the creators of the market commons and enforcers of the market norms to do their work, and fund future work. That is taxation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496410059 128149805,128161002,2017-06-02 13:28:13,">>128160206 Let me just rephrase your argument >Why should I have to give taxes to the Government official? Because it's for the common good, it's for the upkeep of the roads and infrastructure and society. It's because of him that you have police to protect you and regulations to ensure your food is safe to eat. If you yourself have the mind and the ambition to do all that, there's nothing stopping you from becoming a government official in a liberal Democracy-and, in fact, many great people did in fact begin at the bottom and become government officials through hard fought elections. If you and a bunch of other Voluntaryists think you can live in a society without taxation, there is nothing stopping you from saving up collectively and moving to a nation with no taxation. However, you can't lay claim to the profits that go towards the upkeep of the things you use every single day-regardless of any little ideas you might have about whether you 'could' have done it. See? It's the same argument. Just change a few words. But when it's one thing it's bad and when it's another thing it's good. Be consistent like us Left Anarchists and condemn both taxation AND profit.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496410093 128149805,128161058,2017-06-02 13:28:44,">>128159708 private courts, private police, and of course, private militias can all incur consequences on those that break the NAP >stop using the NAP as an argument why? the NAP is the argument. Non-Aggression Principle, no violence outside self-defense. Initiate the use of force outside self-defense, and consequences are there. You're freedom government (who has a monopoly on consequence-free violence), but not consequences",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496410124 128149805,128161079,2017-06-02 13:28:56,">>128160551 What makes you think anyone in your class or any other class will give a shit about your ""private property""?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496410136 128149805,128161421,2017-06-02 13:32:02,">>128160092 >muh proletariat listen kid the world isn't black and white, these ""proletariat"" CAN be the ""bourgeois"" and the ""bourgeois"" CAN degrade themselves into being ""proletariats"" because these labels are just self-imposed Marx meme labels",,Anonymous,1493824534900.jpg,RLxvaddUk6ETDmmCZBw9RQ==,US,,1496410322 128149805,128161616,2017-06-02 13:33:46,">>128161079 because if my private property isn't respected, then THEIR private property is not to be respected either. That's how it works",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496410426 128149805,128161629,2017-06-02 13:33:51,">>128161079 They won't. I don't expect them to care.unless I create value for them. now please answer my question without another question. Why will the ""proletariat"" not steal or destroy your personal property? why do you think they will play nice just because you share the same social class?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496410431 128149805,128161655,2017-06-02 13:34:07,">>128161421 Sure, it can happen, but there will always be Bourgeoisie and Proletariat until class is abolished.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496410447 128149805,128161663,2017-06-02 13:34:14,">>128161058 They can also defect and plunder you. NAP is not an argument. It is an ethic you wish to enforce. You can so it three ways: moralism and deceit, violence, making trade more profitable than war",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496410454 128149805,128161790,2017-06-02 13:35:15,">>128161655 Class will never be abolished, unless everyone dies. Hierarchy is inherent to life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496410515 128149805,128161953,2017-06-02 13:36:39,">>128161655 >until class is abolished. not gonna happen. ever. Equality is the worst philosophy. only in chains or in death will all of mankind be equal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496410599 128149805,128162082,2017-06-02 13:37:40,">>128161629 This same argument can apply to any system. What reason do they have to respect it now? Well, the fact that they're not thieves in general is one. My neighbours are not thieves. Another is because they know they will be punished if it's found that they did steal my property.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496410660 128149805,128162095,2017-06-02 13:37:47,">>128161655 >there will always be Bourgeoisie and Proletariat unless everyone is equally enslaved fixed that for you >>128161663 If they defect, then the non-rogue private militias will seek to neutralize the common threat that does not respect Non-Aggression and are clear threats to themselves by extension It's not completely an ethic, it is in many ways a practical application on rational courses of action",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496410667 128149805,128162096,2017-06-02 13:37:46,">>128161079 Philosophy, m8 We can have civilization only to the extent that people do not desire the unearned - i.e. they realize that to live as a thief, a beggar, a thug, or any other kind of parasite is MORALLY WRONG - i.e. is not in their real self-interest. To some extent, this is true of advanced societies today. If everyone simply desired and took whatever they wanted, regardless of whether they had earned it, we would be in a Hobbesian state of nature and trying to gouge each other's eyes out for the protein. There is no such thing as a civilization of savages, thugs and thieves, and could never be under ANY political system. Civilization can exist only on the basis of PRODUCERS: traders, businessmen, practical thinkers, honest workers. And producers have too much self-esteem to sink to thievery. ...Well, philosophy and McNukes.",,Anonymous,atlas.jpg,C4tSbfmLQQwz4Hbjk4lhZw==,ZA,,1496410666 128149805,128162156,2017-06-02 13:38:14,">>128161953 Since ancaps don't share that pathology with the real anarchists, they should just drop the ""an"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496410694 128149805,128162207,2017-06-02 13:38:35,">>128161790 >>128161953 Not rigid hierarchy, though. You're assuming human nature is biological and not formed by environment and society.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496410715 128149805,128162370,2017-06-02 13:39:56,">>128162207 >implying human nature isn't biological >Implying humans don't have volition to choose their actions in life What is 'the bell curve' and what is 'Aristotle' for $2000, Alex?",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496410796 128149805,128162639,2017-06-02 13:42:29,">>128162370 oy t-those are just burgergrease propaganda they are just poor poopytarryrats! they dindu nuffins! people are equal!",,Anonymous,1496425174889.jpg,6mshl3Xcu+rFPdssYDlT/Q==,US,,1496410949 128149805,128162765,2017-06-02 13:43:33,">>128149805 I think Bastiat shouldn't be approved, he is not our guy, he is for open borders and such.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496411013 128149805,128162934,2017-06-02 13:44:58,">>128162639 Revolutionary Catalonia didn't have shortages. In fact, it had improved medical and literacy standards and total equality (at least as much as possible) with worker (NOT State) control over the means of production.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496411098 128149805,128163091,2017-06-02 13:46:34,">>128162934 ahahaha next you're gonna tell me stalin dindu nuffins too and the famines didn't happen christ lad, yer a riot",,Anonymous,1496425349215.gif,Ne1nEG3d6yzrY7fC0gjaSA==,US,,1496411194 128149805,128163774,2017-06-02 13:53:03,"Active Right Libertarian Telegram Community: Group: http://t.me/LibertarianRG Channel http://t.me/LibertarianRight",,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1496411583 128149805,128163820,2017-06-02 13:53:28,">>128162934 So, what's stopping modern workers from building their own factories and mines, owning them, producing abundance and living in utopia? Oh yeah, because they DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY. If any one of them does have the ability, the mind and the will to build all those things, he will do so, thus becoming an Evil Capitalist™. Workers' collectives are, if anything, dumber than their weakest member because democracy a shit. Building a great and complex productive enterprise takes a great mind motivated by dispassionate reason, not a collective motivated by gibsmedats and feels. The only reason any of those tiny little 'communist paradises' survived any time at all, and the reason why they all failed, is that they were living on borrowed time. They were consuming the capital they had taken from the capitalists before them, which they could not have created and could not maintain. Once that ran out, they were finished.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496411608 128149805,128164103,2017-06-02 13:56:11,">>128163774 is there an IRC or something I'm too old-schooled for Skype or this Discord Telegram shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496411771 128149805,128165315,2017-06-02 14:06:58,">We >Us >Our Might I ask, exactly >Whom?",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170602-180534.png,SC4KK2xYp1CAJzD05f6lGw==,HU,,1496412418 128149805,128165487,2017-06-02 14:08:28,>lolberts,,Anonymous,1495051125452.png,okEBELycgXnCIjqXgazU9A==,US,,1496412508 128149805,128165958,2017-06-02 14:12:59,le anti-immigrant and fascist libertarians,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496412779 128149805,128166987,2017-06-02 14:22:07,">>128165487 I see something wrong with that, question is why am I on their property? This clearly isn't my property or they'd be physically removed already.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496413327 128149805,128167403,2017-06-02 14:25:55,">>128165487 are they masturbating on my property? if yes, they can masturbate as they fall off the helicopter",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496413555 128149805,128167503,2017-06-02 14:26:51,">>128149861 On the open borders thing: What if I own a large property on the border? Can I take in as many refugees as I want? It's my land.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496413611 128149805,128168067,2017-06-02 14:32:08,">>128167503 sure, and then after your neighbors see how shitty your land gets, they buff up their own border afterwards once your land becomes uninhabitably shitty, you might try to leave in desperation and sell your land. Once you sell it underpriced because of how low its value is from all the shitters you imported, the pro-border lads can buy your property. physically remove the shitters, and then place even stronger border control since the land is now theirs the only other way would be is if you somehow continue to endure your shitskin land's shittiness, in which case, your neighbors will just have all the more reason to abandon you and prop up high border control on their side",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496413928 128149805,128168214,2017-06-02 14:33:33,">>128167503 Why don't you start with asking how a border exists in the first place",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496414013 128149805,128168308,2017-06-02 14:34:25,">>128165487 >implying there are no rules in ancapistan >implying city owners can't set rules on their property",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496414065 128149805,128168331,2017-06-02 14:34:36,">>128168214 you can have private borders senpai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496414076 128149805,128168493,2017-06-02 14:36:06,">>128168331 That span across a whole country?",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496414166 128149805,128168548,2017-06-02 14:36:45,">>128168067 What if I'm in the middle of the country? Can I take them in? Or what if I have a bunch of likeminded friends throughout the country and we all do it? Then we've polluted everywhere with them. We don't sell our property because we did it for humanitarian reasons. We leave the land to our new shitkin kin so now they own it. They breed like fuckin mad and now they can't be stopped by the neighbors alone. That wouldn't be problematic?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496414205 128149805,128168730,2017-06-02 14:38:27,">>128168493 Private citizens would own the land on the border. The neighboring country would have a border with all the private property owners. That part is easy, but keeping people out seems impossible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496414307 128149805,128168808,2017-06-02 14:39:08,">>128168548 People can't stay on your property forever.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496414348 128149805,128168891,2017-06-02 14:40:05,">>128168808 Why not? It's my property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496414405 128149805,128169320,2017-06-02 14:43:49,Go read Curt Doolittle and talk to of_ice_and_rock on reddit.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496414629 128149805,128169423,2017-06-02 14:44:44,">>128168493 an Ancapistan border is the sum of all private borders together >>128168548 >what if I have a bunch of likeminded friends throughout the country and we all do it? Then we've polluted everywhere with them. so you do your thing, and then your realize these refuges are dead weights and you can't sustain them before there's no centrally-enforced welfare to give them gibs. You also realize these are violent, savage apes, and that they destroy your property. Your land value sinks, people leave your property, leave working for you. You are now alone with just you and your hellhole buddies plus the shitskins you've imported. Congratulations, everyone else around you now has extremely strong borders around your property because they've been watching how shitty your land got Chances are, the smarter ones among your group will bail because humanitarian aid doesn't mean shit if you're being niggered on a daily basis. He will sell, shitskins physically removed, and everybody learns a valuable lesson >We don't sell our property because we did it for humanitarian reasons. We leave the land to our new shitkin kin so now they own it. Ah ok, so you give land ownership to these shitskins? We entice them then to sell, and the owner of the shitskin group will likely do it if it means getting tons of shit in return compared to other shitskins. The land is still purchased and polished back in the end, while shitskin hatred is learned >They breed like fuckin mad and now they can't be stopped by the neighbors alone. That wouldn't be problematic? how are they sustaining this breeding? They don't have the skillset or jobs, and no welfare means no gibs. If they just get violent, that breaks the NAP and they can be killed on the spot for being violent apes. Liberalism doesn't work in Ancapistan, at least not for long. It just doesn't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496414684 128149805,128169812,2017-06-02 14:48:10,">>128168891 I mean, they /can/, but at that point it's basically just a prison for them, a containment zone. As soon as they step outside your property they are outside your jurisdiction. Under anarcho-capitalism, largely the role of the government in society regulation (e.g. border control, public indecency) is replaced by the community. Due to it's decentralised nature, cities set rules via a form of contract or covenant (decided either by the provider of essential services or the community as a whole). This way, groups of people who desire a certain community get to live with others who live that way, and those who oppose this view are barred from living there - they must seek another community. In this way, towns compete for citizens in an open market. Basically, this means that if you violate a community's standards by, for example, importing hundreds of refugees, you are no longer welcome in the community (and neither are they).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496414890 128149805,128170225,2017-06-02 14:51:44,>>128160739,,Anonymous,froglegsinwinter45.jpg,LEsX0arBEaQtdyWk1fTtWQ==,US,,1496415104 128149805,128170377,2017-06-02 14:53:03,">>128170225 whatcha trying to say senpai, Hoover and Obama were both massive shitters",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496415183 128149805,128170382,2017-06-02 14:53:05,">>128169423 I have enough land to feed them. What if they actually did create value for me or I continued to create value for myself? What if I end up buying the properties next to mine after driving their land value down because people hate me? Then I'm expanding my state and the neighboring properties continue to lose land value just because people don't like me and my foreigners.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496415185 128149805,128170662,2017-06-02 14:55:33,">>128169812 >Due to it's decentralised nature, cities set rules via a form of contract or covenant (decided either by the provider of essential services or the community as a whole). This makes more sense. So I'd actually be signing a ""social contract"" instead of just accepting that I've agreed to one by virtue of being born. How do we decide on the terms, though? We vote? Doesn't democracy lead to physical removal?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496415333 128149805,128171207,2017-06-02 15:00:14,">>128170382 >I have enough land to feed them. Oh, but they're breeding remember? You can't feed them indefinitely, and they don't really work, so you're just in a state of eventual self-destruction >What if they actually did create value for me or I continued to create value for myself? If you can tame wild animals, fine by me, just keep them off my property. >What if I end up buying the properties next to mine after driving their land value down because people hate me? Then I'm expanding my state and the neighboring properties continue to lose land value just because people don't like me and my foreigners. First, I highly doubt you'd have the money to buy land if you're supporting degenerate shitskins. Yes, you said somehow you make it work, but honestly if you're telling me shitskins are capable of being self-sufficient and productive their homeland wouldn't be a shithole in the first place and they would have no need to be migrants. They're refugees for a reason, anon, and that's because they're goatfucking shitters to the core. Next, you're only assuming the neighboring land next to you will both decrease in value and sell to YOU. They can just ramp up border control on their side, or sell to someone else who can, while still developing and cherishing their land because they KNOW it's a waiting game, and you are more likely to snap first from your refugee problem which lets them buy YOUR property. People don't just flee because of a few shitskins. They're not cowards, they act accordingly and plan ahead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496415614 128149805,128171211,2017-06-02 15:00:16,">>128169423 So is every piece of land within this border privately owned?",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496415616 128149805,128171246,2017-06-02 15:00:37,">>128170382 >What if they actually did create value for me or I continued to create value for myself? That's not how you end up with money to buy neighboring properties. You need to create value for OTHER people. Good luck doing that with unskilled savages.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496415637 128149805,128171371,2017-06-02 15:01:51,">>128171211 Yeah.",,Anonymous,OpenBorders2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1496415711 128149805,128171538,2017-06-02 15:03:16,">>128170662 >So I'd actually be signing a ""social contract"" instead of just accepting that I've agreed to one by virtue of being born. That's the idea. It's more an actual voluntary social contract rather one imposed to people by force. >How do we decide on the terms, though? We vote? Doesn't democracy lead to physical removal? Depends on the private property owners. Some people may be more democratic than others, it doesn't matter. They have further rules and restrictions on their democracy, or you can go full monarch on your own property handing it down by family lines. It's your property, your rules. >>128171211 Owned to their private property owners instead of a government, yes. Still a border nonetheless. That is what Anarcho-Capitalism is all about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496415796 128149805,128171789,2017-06-02 15:05:34,">>128170662 You do ""vote"" — with your feet. You're asking us how humans get together to form Wacos, Free State Projects, Liberlands and other types of seeming utopias. People would just organize themselves and do it. Hell, there would probably be companies whose entire purpose was to enforce contractual obligations within certain jurisdictions as to create covenants and private societies.",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1496415934 128149805,128171848,2017-06-02 15:06:16,">>128171538 How do you get the land and remove the state presently presiding over it voluntarily? How do you stop some other nation state from annexing you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496415976 128149805,128171872,2017-06-02 15:06:28,">>128171371 >>128171538 So then what the American guy said. I'm George Soros, I own a shitload of private property and I invite 100 million refugees to the heart of the nation.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496415988 128149805,128172033,2017-06-02 15:07:47,">>128171207 Well I'm going to put them to work in my factories. They'll work for just food and shelter because their homeland sucks. It would totally drive down the property value of my neighbors. The added need for security on the border is a cost than any purchaser would need to take into consideration. The more security I make my neighbors think they need, the less valuable their property becomes. Why wouldn't they sell to me? Who else wants to pay for all that security? I can offer more than anyone else because I don't need to pay for that security. You all gonna boycott my cheap goods because my workers are brown? >>128171246 I'm putting them to work in factories. Unskilled labor. I'll dominate cheap manufacturing because I can pay them in food and shelter.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496416067 128149805,128172233,2017-06-02 15:09:31,">>128171872 People will protest and boycott you once they find out about what you're doing. Then if you *still* haven't learned your lesson, people will defend themselves and their properties by killing your ""guests"", since they are trespassers and will, as implied by you, destroy property.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1496416171 128149805,128172450,2017-06-02 15:11:37,">>128171789 >>128171538 Pretty sure democrats are subject to physical removal, though. >There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from society. So how do we come to an agreement about the covenants and contracts that affect ten properties? A mediation firm? But isn't that basically a democracy. Your vote is your agreement or disagreement with the terms instead of a ballot, but that's still rather democratic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496416297 128149805,128172460,2017-06-02 15:11:40,">>128172033 >pay them in food and shelter. Hahaha, you have no idea how the world works. Even in the poorest shitholes of the world, people will not voluntarily slave away for only food and shelter.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496416300 128149805,128172692,2017-06-02 15:13:47,">>128171872 Could happen I'm theory. It's unlikely that someone would devote their life to building an empire just to destroy it. People who own property an want to profit from it aren't going to scare away the people who pay them. What's stopping the Fuhrer from deciding he really likes niggers and going open borders for the Reich?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496416427 128149805,128172757,2017-06-02 15:14:20,">>128172460 That's why I'm taking them from war torn areas. They're refugees. I take them from danger, provide them food and shelter and safety, in return for their labor. I'll have them all sign contracts before they come. If they get uppity I'll deport them and import different ones. If they get real uppity I'll put them down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496416460 128149805,128172765,2017-06-02 15:14:23,">>128172450 Mediation firms, yes. It's also possible that no covenants formed and life would go on about as usual. Not every inch of the world would be under a covenant agreement.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1496416463 128149805,128172817,2017-06-02 15:14:49,">>128171848 >How do you get the land and remove the state presently presiding over it voluntarily? There are many ways to achieve Anarcho-Capitalism, peaceful and non-peaceful. Economic state collapse, or just an uprising of private militias. There is little ""voluntary"" obligation when it comes to dealing with a state, because a state isn't voluntary. >How do you stop some other nation state from annexing you? Private militias complete with modern military technology, volunteer soldier who wish to defend their homeland not just for themselves or fellow free man, but for their children. Guns, tanks, planes, ships, battlecruisers, bombers, jet fighters, all will still be there. Just privately researched, developed, produced, and manufactured. These private militias can still organize, cooperate, and communicate with each other to eliminate a common outsider invasion threat that seeks to undermine their own freedom. So, how does ancapistan protect itself from other nation states? Virtually the same way states already protect themselves from each other: superior military might. >>128171872 So you George Soros decides to waste tons of his time and money to ruin his own private property? Ok, go do it George, everybody will just blacklist you from business, set up borders, and then just wait until your private property collapses in value to buy it back. >b-but I won't ever sell it back! Not much else to do with it after it becomes a complete shithole. You might not sell it, but certainly your children might or whoever gets their hands on ownership of your property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496416489 128149805,128172967,2017-06-02 15:16:13,">>128172765 But what's the difference between the mediation firm and a small scale democracy? One leads to physical removal and the other doesn't, but why?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496416573 128149805,128173027,2017-06-02 15:16:41,">>128171872 ?",,Anonymous,Untitled.png,dxbEsXh5+Xs98sR5hkBOoQ==,US,,1496416601 128149805,128173252,2017-06-02 15:18:35,">>128173027 Replace one of the dindus with Soros and you got it",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496416715 128149805,128173492,2017-06-02 15:20:39,">>128172033 >Why wouldn't they sell to me? Who else wants to pay for all that security? Someone else who has the money? >I can offer more than anyone else because I don't need to pay for that security. You don't have infinite money my man. >You all gonna boycott my cheap goods because my workers are brown? What are you gonna do about it? >I'll dominate cheap manufacturing because I can pay them in food and shelter. Are you sure this will work out 100% according to plan, and that you will absolutely dominate the market? You know your shitskin workers still need food, shelter, housing, medicine, and other shit that people can blacklist/refuse to trade with you right? The civil unrest that spawns from this could damage worker morale and they might just chimp out on your and steal your shit/raze your land for resources. Logistically it just seems like you're causing much more problems than you are solving, especially if it gets harder and harder to sustain your shitskin population.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496416839 128149805,128173858,2017-06-02 15:23:58,>>128154585,,Anonymous,libertariansurprise.png,trupkKWFkNiVtf0YnntXDw==,CA,,1496417038 128149805,128173874,2017-06-02 15:24:07,">>128149805 But what are you people actually doing? You have cucked out and let the far-right wing be the main force. You need to create the structure of small/ involved businesses and build up the networks. You need to make a society that fits the politics or they will keep going for gibs and expanding out not upwards into enfranchisement. Where is your brand? Where are your education outlets? Where is the non precarious local community base from which to gain political power? You wobbly tools let the institutions get over run.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496417047 128149805,128173980,2017-06-02 15:25:09,"Keep up the good work, gents",,Anonymous,1494546389819.jpg,mdd51Fmezkzhhn2bpZwt8w==,CA,,1496417109 128149805,128173992,2017-06-02 15:25:16,">>128172450 >But isn't that basically a democracy. Your vote is your agreement or disagreement with the terms instead of a ballot, but that's still rather democratic. Well sure a lot of things can still be somewhat democratic in principle, but democracy by money is still much, much better and more efficient than democracy by votes of the easily manipulated masses. >>128172757 you're making some really big assumptions there, especially from unskilled war-torn shithole workers. You might just end up having to put them all down for your own good because you'd have to control so many damn savages accounting for so many factors and costs. It would be infinitely cheaper to just hire local workers, but I guess in your humanitarian (hardly humanitarian if you're just enslaving them...) dreams you pave the way for self-destruction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496417116 128149805,128174088,2017-06-02 15:26:12,">>128172233 >>128172817 This is what I keep seeing every time. The We. The Us. Ironic that the philosophy that advocates for the most personal freedom starts on the pretense of a collective, with most if not all of the people sharing the same opinions and values. Secondly, this idea that private entities can group together to create things that a state makes up now, namely a border and an army. Why would you want to create a society where a labourer lives next door to someone with multiple nuclear missilies? The great paradox of ancapistan. A democratic government can't be allowed to have a monopoly, but a single person with billions of dollars can.",,Anonymous,20170602_211934.png,P5rouBy0SdIQvDHxJFNK5w==,HU,,1496417172 128149805,128174136,2017-06-02 15:26:40,">>128173027 top fucking kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496417200 128149805,128174239,2017-06-02 15:27:35,">>128173492 It's not about infinite money, it's about the land being more valuable to me because I don't have to worry about the added security costs. >What are you gonna do about it? Nothing obviously, but people usually don't pay more for shit unless they have to or get a benefit from it. How many people bitch about American jobs leaving but don't pay more to buy American? Of course I'm not sure it will work. It's a hypothetical. I lean libertarian and I'm trying to figure this shit out by playing devil's advocate. Are you sure t won't work? >The civil unrest that spawns from this could damage worker morale and they might just chimp out on your and steal your shit/raze your land for resources. This is why I'd hire the most racist men I could find for my security. They'll be itching to put down a riot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496417255 128149805,128175068,2017-06-02 15:34:29,">>128173992 >There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from society. Well I guess I get to remove you and expand my brown state. I'm still not getting what the underlying difference is. The covenant is basically a law, the mediation is basically a voting booth. It's democracy. Yeah I might have to put them down. It's a risk I'm willing to take for the sake of diversity. Why would it be cheaper to hire local workers? I'd have to pay them enough to cover food and shelter and then some, while still having to pay for accounting and management or whatever. I'm paying my slaves just food and shelter, which I make them grow and build.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496417669 128149805,128175112,2017-06-02 15:34:48,">>128172967 Hoppe says that ""even Rousseau, the most fanatic supporter of democracy, thought that it could maybe only work in small places where everyone knew each other and therefore the natural instincts to loot the property of those who have more than themselves would somehow be curtailed."" So there you have it: democracy can work in small villages or groups where the consequences only affect those who are involved (and those who abstain should also have the right not to be affected by any outcome of the democratic decision). But modern democracies where millions of anonymous voters vote themselves the loot and the spoils of their countrymen is deficient.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1496417688 128149805,128175298,2017-06-02 15:36:02,">>128174088 >you can't be a voluntary ""we"", all ""we""s and ""us"" are all collectivist and contradictory to ancap! what a strawman. >Why would you want to create a society where a labourer lives next door to someone with multiple nuclear missilies? Because that labourer also has the freedom to purchase his own multiple nuclear missiles? It's about freedom, not >muh equality >A democratic government can't be allowed to have a monopoly, but a single person with billions of dollars can. Yes, because a government owns that monopoly by force. A single person with a monopoly must compete constantly with others in order to stay at the top, refining his product, service, business line, etc. That billionaire isn't violent and got there by merit. That's the point. >>128174239 I understand, I am just messing around. I'm aware you're just sparring for fun. >but people usually don't pay more for shit unless they have to or get a benefit from it. this is true, but you also cannot say that your hypothetical will also be guaranteed cheaper or that it would be viable. If anything, it sounds like it would have massive startup costs with little projected gains because >shitskin savages >Are you sure t won't work? Like I said, if shitskins were competent then they wouldn't be from shitholes in the first place. They're just shitty people, importing tons of them for no reason just makes you're crippling yourself. It never works out, and is why the west is killing itself by allowing these rapefugees to flood in. I'm sure you're well familiar with this already. >This is why I'd hire the most racist men I could find for my security. They'll be itching to put down a riot. So you'd just end up cleansing a lot of shitskins? I don't see how that's a bad thing then if you're at least getting some productive output from them before it all comes crashing down. Word might go back to their homeland and they'll just come to distrust your racist, bigoted, private property land anyways.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496417762 128149805,128175846,2017-06-02 15:39:45,">>128175068 Democrats are communists are in context to a democratic and communist state, not against any and all things democratic as an absolute. >Why would it be cheaper to hire local workers? Because a wage might be cheaper than paying for food, shelter, and other crap people need instead of just money outright. >while still having to pay for accounting and management or whatever. wait hold on, so you're not even going to have accountants and management to run your little shitskin factory? that business is not going to last, especially when you're dealing with savages. You only have one body anon, the apes will be all over you with complaints and other things managers are supposed to soak up as abuse sponges",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496417985 128149805,128176484,2017-06-02 15:44:21,"ancaps are stupid. if theres no child safety agencies how will the government get the opportunity to take my children and sell them into sex slavery? i mean come the fuck on.",,Anonymous,b51bd2a97a07c98c117dd2966a368d39d726d60c2d6f407bf36415a66b354943.jpg,7aQ4zPfz3HSeGO4moL+w/A==,US,,1496418261 128149805,128176497,2017-06-02 15:44:24,">>128175298 Yep that sums it up for me. Freedom at whatever cost. But what is this ""freedom"" worth if you won't even live to see it? The problem: Government. The solution: Death.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496418264 128149805,128176620,2017-06-02 15:45:27,">>128175112 Okay. So basically the community that is affected by the covenant can all decide something with 100% acceptance and that's an agreement that is permissible. But once the agreements affect people who don't agree with them it becomes a democracy and you get removed. That makes sense. That way it prevents mob rule and the tyranny of the majority. >>128175298 Well the west isn't forcing them to integrate. We're trying to change the westbto suit them. I'd put them down if they got uppity. I'd have overseers and the whole nine yards. Maybe I can't deport them because I can't let the word out that I'm killing so many. I'll have to goad them into violating the NAP so I could kill them. If my slave runs into your propert can I be the one who shoots him? I'd compensate you for the cleanup cost, but I just want you to know I fired into your property in an attempt to mitigate your losses.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496418327 128149805,128176995,2017-06-02 15:47:50,">>128176497 >The solution: Death. Albert Camus get the fuck out of this body",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496418470 128149805,128177201,2017-06-02 15:49:11,">>128175846 Of course I'll have accountants. I just mean hiring locally doesn't seem to save me much because there's the same amount of overhead, and no one will want to work for less money than can sustain them. I'd have to pay them enough to buy food and rent shelter at the very least. I guess I could pay the locals in food and shelter too, but they'd probably want something on top of that and might be able to get it somewhere else. My refugees have no option but me. They can take their complaints to one of my overseers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496418551 128149805,128178002,2017-06-02 15:54:43,">>128176497 >But what is this ""freedom"" worth if you won't even live to see it? I honestly don't even know what you're trying to say. People die from freedom? What? >The solution: Death. what did he mean by this >>128176620 hey man you do what you want with your private property and your private factories. Those people chose to be there, and while I don't want them on my property, I'm not gonna stop your operation the evolution of your system is just amusing since you went from being a refugee humanitarian advocate for the hell of it to an industrialist capitalizing on labor with strict rules and consequences. Even compensation for runaway workers. good stuff lad >>128177201 sounds like a lot of hassle and you'd definitely have to keep balancing cost and benefits between local and outside workers now you must also realize, that the transportation of your future workers into your property in the first place costs money. And then the food that families eat, if that is all up to you, then they will want more and more since they assume you have unlimited food like children having no sense of finances like their parents and then the women of your workers get pregnant or something -- do you give them leave? there's also medical complications if someone gets sick and can't work but is less profit to you while they still eat it's gonna be tough hanging onto your system",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496418883 128149805,128179073,2017-06-02 16:01:54,Is this the thread for people who want minimal government such as national defense? Or is this purely ancap?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496419314 128149805,128179366,2017-06-02 16:03:39,">>128178002 >what did he mean by this Camus claims the only escape from the absurdism of life is death. >the evolution of your system is just amusing since you went from being a refugee humanitarian advocate for the hell of it to an industrialist capitalizing on labor with strict rules and consequences. Even compensation for runaway workers. Ha, I'm just trying to import as many people you don't like into the nation as possible to see if and how I can. The covenant idea seems like the best solution, but only if it exists when I purchase the land because I won't enter into one after I've purchased the property as it would ruin my plan. >now you must also realize, that the transportation of your future workers into your property in the first place costs money. Slavery was profitable for a reason. Slave owners bore all the same costs I'm going to. I could rent my slaves, I mean my independent contractors, to my neighbors to increase my profit. Now I'm polluting more than just my land, but my workers will be cheaper than anyone else you could get so you'd likely accept.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496419419 128149805,128179450,2017-06-02 16:04:02,">>128179073 do you respect private property? do you want less gov? if yes, you're all welcome lad most of us are AnCap (myself included), but there's definitely Minarchists among us and they're very fine fellows of sophistication worth respecting",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496419442 128149805,128179833,2017-06-02 16:06:30,">>128179450 Ok. Im just getting into it so i was thinking of starting with ron paul, locke, or hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496419590 128149805,128180005,2017-06-02 16:07:35,">>128179366 >I could rent my slaves, I mean my independent contractors, to my neighbors to increase my profit. Now I'm polluting more than just my land, but my workers will be cheaper than anyone else you could get so you'd likely accept. well yeah but there's no guarantee they're going to allow these people in also, I forgot to mention one little ace in the hold: automaton. Your workers won't mean much in the competitive world if they're being outskilled by robots doing menial tasks. There's only so much uneducated shitskin savages can do in terms of labor, and if they're not being imported for labor, no welfare means no direct gibs so those guys would just be pure losses on your part",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496419655 128149805,128180052,2017-06-02 16:07:51,">>128178002 You are replacing an orderly system with monopolies and tyrants. At the time of Brexit, people voted against being able to vote. In Turkey they made a democratic vote to have less democratic power. Likewise ancaps will try to achieve ""freedom"" and at best achieve a new totalitarian regime, not ruled by kings or dictators but by megacorps and multimillionaires. All in the name of freedom. I really thought ancap was just about the best system for a long time, but these threads make me lose more hope every time. The migrant crisis was a big game changer for politics and for the world. And especially for Hungary, it was a real eye opener. And now even Libertarians are somehow jumping on the hype of border control after realising a nation cannot be sustained without it. It seems to me a little bit of freedom is sacrificed every time a little bit of security is needed. And you can keep making these ""private property so we can control our own borders"" arguments, but like I keep saying you have to understand that it is impossible that there will be no one who wants to undermine your way of life. And if you leave the door open, if you say its only about freedom, then you will lose all that you have worked for in a day.",,Anonymous,1494308578832.jpg,nu7mbDwuEhZT94uPJx8dFA==,HU,,1496419671 128149805,128180316,2017-06-02 16:09:32,">>128179833 all good choices lad, happy to see your enthusiasm. Keep it up pic related might be a helpful reading list for you",,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1496419772 128149805,128181144,2017-06-02 16:14:12,">>128175068 >I'm paying my slaves just food and shelter, which I make them grow and build. >yfw you realize hiring a free man's labor in the antebellum South was far cheaper than owning slaves, who needed you to provide food, shelter, clothing, security, and medical care Again, you're imagining some sort of fantasy land scenario to make your argument, so continuing the argument is fruitless. No refugee would come to your slave territory when they could get food and shelter for free from UN refugee camps. You greatly overestimate people's desperation, and the level of destruction that modern war brings. Most people in Syria still go to work every morning. Kids still go to class. It's not some smoking wasteland, the reason people become emigrant refugees is to avoid the conflict entirely, or for economic purposes.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496420052 128149805,128181266,2017-06-02 16:15:01,">>128180052 >a new totalitarian regime, not ruled by kings or dictators but by megacorps and multimillionaires how can you have a totalitarian regime if there's no state? >Libertarians are somehow jumping on the hype of border control after realising a nation cannot be sustained without it. It seems to me a little bit of freedom is sacrificed every time a little bit of security is needed wait hold up, so you're against border control? you want open borders? what? >you have to understand that it is impossible that there will be no one who wants to undermine your way of life. And if you leave the door open, if you say its only about freedom, then you will lose all that you have worked for in a day. I'm sorry but I don't really get what you're trying to say. How does having closed borders hurt me? and then there's that bit about democratic vote and less democratic power. Do you believe in democracy, in the tyranny of the masses, in soft communism? there is nothing wrong with freedom, I just don't see how any of this bad. You are telling me that I want totalitarianism by wanting more freedom. Don't you see the contradiction in what you're saying?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496420101 128149805,128181842,2017-06-02 16:18:20,">>128180005 Automation is a big hurdle for my master plan, but I'd probably find someway to work around it. There's got to be something that would still require human labor, at least for a while. Or maybe st that point I'd divide my property and give all my slaves their own plot of land with machinery so they could compete with everyone else and we'll see what happens. Or I'd keep them as a reserve force for manufacturing arms for defense firms so they could still manufacture even if we get hit with an emp. They don't need gibs from the government. They'll be working my fields for food.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496420300 128149805,128182339,2017-06-02 16:21:29,">>128149805 Anarcho-Capitalist flag represents Anarchy, Not libertarianism. There are a significant amount of Anarcho-Capitalists in the libertarian movement, however those are two different ideologies as Libertarians do believe that some government structure needs to exist (unlike anarchists); They are not one and the same as anarchist casually categorize.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496420489 128149805,128182393,2017-06-02 16:21:51,">>128180316 >>128179450 >yanks using 'lad' OI BRUV",,Anonymous,file.png,ThcGAqItib2iaMCTI0qXwA==,GB,,1496420511 128149805,128182490,2017-06-02 16:22:30,">>128181144 >Again, you're imagining some sort of fantasy land scenario to make your argument, You're in a fucking ancap thread. We're all in a fantasy land here. I'd bait them with promises of economic freedom and prosperity, have them sign my contract, and ship the into my sweatshops while telling them that's it's way worse everywhere else. Syria is a developed nation. I'd be pulling people from Africa where they barely have clean water and warlords steal their children, rape their women, and kill their men. Not the Middle East with its tiny armed conflicts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496420550 128149805,128182795,2017-06-02 16:24:42,">>128181842 you do what you want if you say you can make it work (within your private property) I'm just telling you that from your own business plan's premise that it seems unsustainable, unstable, and wholly inefficient. The startup costs would be out the ass, and then to maintain not only the factory and its tools, but housing, food, and shelter for live people instead seems extremely tricky. All while at the same time you'd beat the machines and beat automation. If I was an investor, I certainly wouldn't be giving you any kind of loan at all. And then you're telling me you would have enough profit to expand your business and buy more land? I just don't see it happening, but I'm not gonna stop you. People are just going to act accordingly and watch you fail if you do. I'm sorry but chances are that's likely as the endgame of your mini slave empire >>128182393 I also use mate :^) >>128182490 >We're all in a fantasy land here. for now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496420682 128149805,128183587,2017-06-02 16:30:03,">>128149861 >protect the rights of the citizens. how can their be citizen on a borderless country >We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land according to who",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1496421003 128149805,128183664,2017-06-02 16:30:31,">>128182795 So say I do fail. I end up broke with 1,000 slaves who are still reproducing. I grant them freedom, sell them my land for nothing, and leave. Now you've got a problem on your hands if you don't like blacks, right? I've successfully imported a bunch of people into the nation who shouldn't be there. If they won't sell you the land you're stuck with them as your neighbors, and as long as they don't violate the NAP there's nothing you can do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496421031 128149805,128183903,2017-06-02 16:31:51,">>128181266 >how can you have a totalitarian regime if there's no state? By giving more power to act to a private company than you could give to a government. I'm a huge banker or warlord, I own all the big guns and now I enslave every little private property because there is no cohesion, no common army, nothing >wait hold up, so you're against border control? you want open borders? what? I'm all for strong border control. But expecting the same results from privatising all land cannot work. You're basically inviting armies to your doorstep. >Do you believe in democracy, in the tyranny of the masses, in soft communism? I have lost faith in democracy too, as people in their current state cannot be trusted with power. >You are telling me that I want totalitarianism by wanting more freedom. Don't you see the contradiction in what you're saying? You're the one who doesn't see the contradictions in your own reasoning. That taking away the borders of a government and dividing it up into a thousand or million pieces would make borders -stronger-. That privatising all land and basically restricting people to just their own land unless given permission somehow results in more freedom. I agree that many things with current governments are wrong. And that the free market can fix most of these things. But the only lasting solution the free market can bring in order to defend this nation is a complete monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496421111 128149805,128184631,2017-06-02 16:36:49,">>128183587 Wrong just, wrong mate. Open borders has to be enforced by the state as people naturally want to protect their property. I say fuck the Jews and the shitskins. Nuke the whole thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496421409 128149805,128184787,2017-06-02 16:37:46,">>128184631 >>Open borders has to be enforced by the state >State and by that you mean goverment?",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1496421466 128149805,128185009,2017-06-02 16:39:16,">>128164103 There is Telegram CLI. It sucks though. Honestly Telegram is a great app. Worth it. Available on desktop/linux etc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496421556 128149805,128185081,2017-06-02 16:39:43,">>128184787 Sorta. There's a difference in Libertarian jargon but for sake of understanding yes. The government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496421583 128149805,128185119,2017-06-02 16:39:54,">>128184787 Yeah. Thing is there's no public property in this nation, so where would the people go? Unless they have permission to come onto someone's private property in the nation they wouldn't be allowed in the nation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496421594 128149805,128185494,2017-06-02 16:42:15,">>128183664 >as long as they don't violate the NAP there's nothing you can do. >starving niggers with no gibs and tons of children >too stupid to even sell the land they're gonna steal and get violent, and when they do, the consequences will be swift. It will be open nigger hunting season on anon's property, winner claims the land because it would then be unclaimed land once they're all dead desu some people would have a field day on your former property >>128183903 >By giving more power to act to a private company >there's just going to be one private company there's gonna be tons of them >I'm a huge banker or warlord, I own all the big guns and now I enslave every little private property because there is no cohesion, no common army, nothing There IS cohesion. Everybody loves freedom in Ancapistan, else it would no longer be a part of it. There's also multiple private militias, and they would all gang up against you because you're trying to establish a state and ruin everybody's good time >But expecting the same results from privatising all land cannot work why not? >You're basically inviting armies to your doorstep. how, if the private borders are still closed? are you meaning to say that ancap can't defend themselves from outside threat? see my earlier post >>128172817 >That privatising all land and basically restricting people to just their own land unless given permission somehow results in more freedom. that IS freedom. They have freedom over what happens in their land. I'm still not seeing what's wrong. If it's just outside threat, like I said, that's easily countered. Is it mass foreign immigration? Hard to enforce that when private property laws vary so much. There's also no centralized gibs so why would people even want to immigrate unless they're there to work and are high-skilled, which is good since that mostly comes from non-shitskin countries",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496421735 128149805,128185496,2017-06-02 16:42:16,">>128185081 >>sorta. >>128185119 >>yeah. >the current state of the ancap *inhales* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH *exhales*",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1496421736 128149805,128185820,2017-06-02 16:44:25,">>128185496 what are you trying to say, mexican intellectual some people give shitty vague answers. You can see that anywhere",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496421865 128149805,128185886,2017-06-02 16:44:52,">>128185820 >mexican intellectual someone is salty over here",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1496421892 128149805,128185906,2017-06-02 16:45:02,">>128185496 ""Government"" is often used as slang for ""the state"" by really government is people organising society. This is fair game in AnCap. ""The State"" is corruption. A gang of murderers, thieves, and rapists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496421902 128149805,128185916,2017-06-02 16:45:08,">>128185494 Maybe. We'll see. Still a problem if I arm them. >>128185496 Oh did I need to specify that we're talking about a hypothetical nation? No woder you're still in Mexico, too dumb to come to a real country.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496421908 128149805,128186073,2017-06-02 16:46:15,">>128150228 I love him because he's such a degenerate.",,Anonymous,1495994568440.jpg,VYg2XmVJMPfq+9K5cKFyWA==,DE,,1496421975 128149805,128186143,2017-06-02 16:46:43,">>128185906 >""The State"" is corruption. A gang of murderers, thieves, and rapists. but you somehow still need their corruption, innit? >>128185916 >hypothetical nation yeah, because otherwise it would fail like communism did IRL",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1496422003 128149805,128186271,2017-06-02 16:47:35,">>128185886 the only salt will be from your countrymen once the wall is made and they're forced to go back >>128185906 ehh I wouldn't bother with that semantics game. Just say ""covenant"" or ""private society"" for a voluntary organized group of people State and government are synonyms now, too much confusion otherwise",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496422055 128149805,128186577,2017-06-02 16:49:40,">>128186271 >once the wall is made will it be like the wall your president, Donalberg Trumpstein fisted?",,Anonymous,000_OQ93K-e1495460003763[1].jpg,BAcefFnaEZQGnIlidBrJ+A==,MX,,1496422180 128149805,128186671,2017-06-02 16:50:18,">>128186577 checked and kek'd you're alright juan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496422218 128149805,128186997,2017-06-02 16:52:23,">>128186143 Or worse it might fail like Mexico.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496422343 128149805,128187044,2017-06-02 16:52:41,">>128186143 No one needs corruption. How do you figure that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496422361 128149805,128187378,2017-06-02 16:54:48,">>128149805 Ancaps and lolberts are dlusional necbeard sheltered faggots.Want a taste of how your society would be like?Try Somalia or more recently South Africa. Your shitty ideology may work for the US since its in between oceans and does not have neibgours that pose a threat but it would also need to be majority white so it does not turn into complete shithole. A weak state will be defeated by its nibghours and under lolberts ancaps it would be as weak as a state can be. You all know that this odeology is recipie for disaster that will lead to anarchy,barbarism and finally colapse.And deep down you also know that you weak faggots would be amongst the first ones to die when Jamal shoots you because you cant afford security....kek.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1496422488 128149805,128187597,2017-06-02 16:56:13,">>128185494 This is what I mean, you are far too presumptive. That people would somehow band together. Like at this rate I could talk about how awesome anarcho communism is and how once we destroy the state everything will be awesome because people will work to the best of their abilities and give to the most in need. And we'll make all the tanks and jets ourselves. And no one will ever be able to defeat us because theres MORE of us and we're stronger. The freedom sentiment is admirable but as Oswald Mosley said, expansion without authority to control ends only in disaster. Either you take control of everything else that's private, or eventually they will take control of YOU.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496422573 128149805,128187652,2017-06-02 16:56:36,">>128187378 (You)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496422596 128149805,128187680,2017-06-02 16:56:48,">>128187378 >ancap is incompatible with niggers this isn't news",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496422608 128149805,128187878,2017-06-02 16:58:10,">>128187378 You're ignoring the fact that Africa fell prey to the resource curse. While I agree there are issues with this ideology, that's a bad anaology",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496422690 128149805,128188750,2017-06-02 17:04:30,">>128187597 >That people would somehow band together. people naturally band together though, that's the thing >Like at this rate I could talk about how awesome anarcho communism is and how once we destroy the state everything will be awesome because people will work to the best of their abilities and give to the most in need. yeah but ancom is retarded and doesn't work economically speaking. We don't expect people to work to the best of their abilities and give to the most in need at all, that has nothing to do with anarcho-capitalism. The best of the best are rewarded in ancap, whereas the weak, degenerate, and unwilling are offered no gibs and left to their own voluntary suffering by choice >we'll make all the tanks and jets ourselves. I don't see why not. You don't need a state to privately research, develop, produce, and manufacturer tanks and jets as long as the funding is there from voluntary entities >And no one will ever be able to defeat us because theres MORE of us and we're stronger. well yes, that goes for any human system. The idea though, is that ancap is a system that rewards strength and punishes weakness; economic domination is an inevitability as wealth is massively generated >but as Oswald Mosley said, expansion without authority to control ends only in disaster. I respect Mosley, but there's way am I going to give up freedom in the HOPES that resources are allocated best by politicians, instead of by people who know what they're doing. >Either you take control of everything else that's private, or eventually they will take control of YOU. I disagree, and I'm sure you would disagree with a complete authoritarian and totalitarian system like that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496423070 128149805,128189104,2017-06-02 17:07:08,">>128187652 >>128187680 >>128187878 If the US was 90% it might work,would you live better then the actual standard or the one under another type of system.....doubtfull.You would trade alot of conforts for freedoms that you mostly already have. This is just my dumb gypsy opinion that has seen a bit of communism and the ""beauty"" of consumerism capitalism at work,its not worth it,trust me. Even with its actual demografics the US has one of the highest living standards in the world it is the world leader some improvements can be made,but ine as radical as yours may lead to the death of your country as you know it.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1496423228 128149805,128189452,2017-06-02 17:10:01,">>128189104 I don't get what you're trying to say. Are you suggesting that niggers are a problem? Yeah. We know. Ancap is brutal against niggers, there's no gibs or welfare for them to live on. People would have guns so the publicly violent ones can just be shot anyways. I don't see how Ancap leads to the death of our country. If anything, it seems to strongly suggest that it would purify and cleanse it once and for all against all these degenerates enabled by the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496423401 128149805,128189512,2017-06-02 17:10:36,BUT WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO BUILT THE ROADS YOU RETARDS???,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1496423436 128149805,128189671,2017-06-02 17:11:56,">>128189512 where we're going we don't need roads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496423516 128149805,128189687,2017-06-02 17:12:06,">>128187597 I don't think people would magically band together. I think those that don't will die and you'd only be left with those that do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496423526 128149805,128189751,2017-06-02 17:12:42,">>128189512 Road companies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496423562 128149805,128190048,2017-06-02 17:15:03,">>128188750 You see Hunaryanbro is right,the US already has most of its politicians and ots corporation tightly togheter.Is he a leader of a big corporation?!That means he will have tremendous power since he will sponsor politicians. Most of the media in your country is owned by the same private investors,the central banks dictate war to your country.Trump tryed to fuck with big pharma corporations and was told kindly to fuck off and he did,because those are the big boys. Just with this level of free market,no regulation and corruption corporations have a big say and some may even lead from the shadows. Now imagine a libertarian system it would be somewhat nice while it lasts....and then it would turn into corporatist dictatorship. Its just like the ancient times a stronger tribe will unite and rule the others,if that falls another will rise.Its simply a capitalist hydra if left unchecked it will devour you.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1496423703 128149805,128190117,2017-06-02 17:15:36,">>128188750 >instead of by people who know what they're doing. That's the big fear. That they know how to do things so well that they take control of everything. As long as we have laws and a state at least this can be prevented. I know that sounds like I'm betraying my free market ideals, but honestly I don't hate my country's government. They kept us safe from terrorism while France and Germany could not. And the biggest thing for me, especially on this topic of people naturally banding together, is that ancap isn't achieved through a political shift but through a cultural shift. In order to achieve and maintain this society there must be one strong culture that cares so much about freedom that they would die for it. Maybe this is only achievable through glovalism? Hopefully not. But it will not happen anytime soon that's for sure.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496423736 128149805,128190187,2017-06-02 17:16:08,">>128189104 Let me explain how I look at the ideology. It's like an ideal, something I don't think needs to be realized, but is fun to look at to form opinions of policy I do want realized. Less welfare, less regulations on business, more rights for property owners, more gun rights, less government. Is talking about Ancapistan and shit just utopia talk on the same level as commies? Of course. But doing it helps me discover where I think we do need government and why I think we need it there. As an aside US would probably become close to 90% white if we got rid of welfare, or at least the people who survived would adopt white western culture and wouldn't be an issue. The madness would come from switching from what we have now directly to an ancap society. But if we start lowering taxes, reducing welfare, reducing government, etc at a slow rate it could end up pretty close without too many issues. I don't think it's a thing to be pushed on people by force like communism has been.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496423768 128149805,128190330,2017-06-02 17:17:23,">>128189512 Get a 4 wheel drive, fag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496423843 128149805,128190409,2017-06-02 17:17:58,">>128179833 Start off with Rothbard, with his book ""Man, Economy, and State"". Excellent book",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496423878 128149805,128190561,2017-06-02 17:19:17,">>128190187 Well that sounds more resonable and it might work out for the people,but the state will be weaker and that means less army,less intervetions and global presence,since the army is dependent o tax money.And lets be honest the big globalist guys would never let that happen.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1496423957 128149805,128190774,2017-06-02 17:20:56,Who will organize the roads? If anyone and their mother can just throw money at a construction company to build a road every which way won't the entire country devolve into an unoptimized maze of pavement?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496424056 128149805,128191000,2017-06-02 17:22:53,">>128190048 ok so you're telling me all these corporations and corrupt politicians are bad, and that's fine, I understand that. I'm completely on board with not mixing government and corporations, but are you really just going to give government a pass and blame it all on muh ebil corporations? Then you tell me, that Ancap would lead to a corporatist dictatorship. There's no state in ancap, no politicians to butter up, no central state to even enforce a dictatorship. You understand that you're not really making much sense at this point, right? >Its just like the ancient times a stronger tribe will unite and rule the others,if that falls another will rise.Its simply a capitalist hydra if left unchecked it will devour you. oh yes, the capitalist hydra is the problem, not the giant fucking authoritarian government telling you what can and can't do, what you can and can't think. Coca-cola can't bust into your home and force you to buy their product. Governments do it all the time, especially if you don't pay your taxes you had no say over I'm just not seeing this capitalist bogeyman play out, when capitalism can't force you to do anything. Government does that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496424173 128149805,128191056,2017-06-02 17:23:27,">>128189512 >he needs roads to travel",,Anonymous,1492476647352.jpg,7P63VxHh/oR2qmu8DkpKcA==,CA,,1496424207 128149805,128191393,2017-06-02 17:26:30,">>128190117 >That they know how to do things so well that they take control of everything. what kind of strawmanned assumption is this. How can they take control of everything if there's no central means of control that allows them so? >As long as we have laws and a state at least this can be prevented. prevent what? prevent them from forcing you to do stuff? That's what government does! No-one is forced to do anything in Ancapistan, that's the point, you have freedom first and foremost. >In order to achieve and maintain this society there must be one strong culture that cares so much about freedom that they would die for it. you don't need a state for this. You can have people voluntarily believing in freedom >Maybe this is only achievable through glovalism? no, fuck globalism >But it will not happen anytime soon that's for sure. we'll see",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496424390 128149805,128191579,2017-06-02 17:28:09,">>128190561 >that means less army,less intervetions and global presence,since the army is dependent o tax money you can fund these things privately and voluntarily you know. Military does NOT have to be exclusively from tax.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496424489 128149805,128191604,2017-06-02 17:28:18,">>128191000 Kek you did not understand what i meant,in a libertarian society one corporation or group that owns several of them may buy/take contoll by any means of the others,thus achieving monopolly over the market(or close enough).What woul stop them.....nothing,as long as they are capable they will rule,simple as that. And dont get so triggered by totalotarian states.In my eyes all the political systems are equal communism,national socialism,fascism,capitalism etc. They equally take and give you something,now which one you prefer is up to you and what you like to be given and what you are willing to sacrifice for it.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1496424498 128149805,128191807,2017-06-02 17:30:02,">>128190561 The military is my biggest issue here. Isolationism sounds well and good in theory, but neglects the fact that China and Russia aren't going to play along with it. If we don't keep them in check they could go imperialistic again, then dominate the globe while we sit back with our private roads. Then they finally decide to take us over and we can't fight against a unified world military force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496424602 128149805,128191893,2017-06-02 17:30:39,">>128190774 >Who will organize the roads? If anyone and their mother can just throw money at a construction company to build a road every which way won't the entire country devolve into an unoptimized maze of pavement? Building roads is expensive, which is one of the big excuses governments use for subsidizing them. It doesn't make sense for every single person to build their own road. It's in people's interests to spread the costs over multiple people, so naturally a rental model will take hold for the same reason that rental car companies exist. Private roads will be subject to supply and demand just like any other good. The market will create very close to the most efficient number of roads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496424639 128149805,128192304,2017-06-02 17:33:45,">>128191604 >one corporation or group that owns several of them may buy/take contoll by any means of the others,thus achieving monopolly over the market(or close enough).What woul stop them.....nothing,as long as they are capable they will rule,simple as that. there's nothing wrong about monopolies if they're natural, meaning some companies are just the best at what they do and everybody continues to pay them money to keep it up. But then I saw you said >by any means of the others if you're saying these companies break the NAP by going against the rules, then others will neutralize them as a threat because they value freedom and their own livelihood >And dont get so triggered by totalotarian states.I I'm not triggered at all, just puzzled by how you would prefer a state that forces you to do things over corporations that can't force you to do anything at all I see nothing wrong with natural monopolies if they got there by merit. Having them rule on a voluntary basis, why not? If they do a shit job, they get replaced, we have that power in freedom. At this point, it just seems like you're bogeymanning corporations as ebil as usual like a commie, which is ridiculous because I know you're better than that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496424825 128149805,128193864,2017-06-02 17:46:43,">>128191893 >corporations that can't force you to do anything at all >I see nothing wrong with natural monopolies Sounds as if you haven't considered monopolies enough then. In many countries electricity, heating and water wre already privatised. In ancap it would be 100% ptivatised. Now let's say one company gains total control of all these things. Still don't see the problem? Oh well people would band together and fight it oh an alternative would emerge oh total monopoly violates nap Right. And how would you do anything about it when you literally have nothing to drink.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496425603 128149805,128194008,2017-06-02 17:48:03,">>128191604 Monopolies and anti-competitive practices aren't as pathological in the absence of the state. If you're going to maintain a monopoly, you'd better moderate your ""exploitation"" so that there's less incentive to compete with you. In certain situations, monopolies are actually good. Patents are semi-good monopolies because they provide a weak guarantee that investing in R&D is worth it. Patent monopolies incentivize innovation (although expensive patent races disincentivize it even more.) In the absence of intellectual property, there are situations such as in pharmaceuticals where anti-competitive conglomerates will have the highest incentive to innovate. You may have one big conglomerate that offers hospitals the very best medicine only under an exclusivity clause, i.e. don't buy bootleg drugs that rip off our innovations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496425683 128149805,128194317,2017-06-02 17:50:50,">>128193864 >Now let's say one company gains total control of all these things. Still don't see the problem? No I don't see the problem. If it works out, that's good, if it doesn't, then people go elsewhere. That's the idea, they have that freedom. >Oh well people would band together and fight it oh an alternative would emerge oh total monopoly violates nap What are you rambling about? >how would you do anything about it when you literally have nothing to drink. Why would I have nothing to drink?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496425850 128149805,128194794,2017-06-02 17:55:05,">>128194317 Dude you can't ignore the underlying issue with a monopoly: complete control of either a specific resource, or a specific means of production. That leads to the ability to gouge prices and sell inferior products because you have no competition and since you own all the specific resource or specific means of producing your goods no one can compete with you. At a point a real monopoly could make it so cost prohibitive to compete there wouldn't be an alternative. When one sprung up the monopoly would have such a large market share it could make a superior product, sell it next to its competitor at a huge loss, put him out of business, then go back to making an expensive and inferior product.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496426105 128149805,128195327,2017-06-02 18:00:02,">>128194794 What I've been trying to explain but not just with monopolies on products but armed forces and borders. There are some things you can't privatise on a large enough scale. But let me just say I like the idea of a monopoly myself. Or to quote Donald Trump; ""I like war in a way. But only when we win.""",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496426402 128149805,128195714,2017-06-02 18:03:21,">>128194794 >That leads to the ability to gouge prices and sell inferior products so the people start getting fed up with their bullshit >you have no competition and since you own all the specific resource or specific means of producing your goods no one can compete with you. ah, but that just makes the people all the more willing for an alternative. People working in that monopoly might decide to branch off with the knowledge they know to make more money for themselves, or develop something that competes. They will find a way, because it's most profitable to do so. No government is going to stop them with regulation requirements that make small competing business difficult. >At a point a real monopoly could make it so cost prohibitive to compete there wouldn't be an alternative. Such as? What? Electricity? Water? They presently have such privileges because the state grants them it. You would see it split in Ancap, because it's more profitable that way. >When one sprung up the monopoly would have such a large market share it could make a superior product, sell it next to its competitor at a huge loss, put him out of business, then go back to making an expensive and inferior product. Yes, and then the cycle repeats because there's that brief moment when it does compete and the consumers benefit from low prices. That's plural by the way, competitors, more than one will compete and without a state to enforce regulations that cripple startups, it will make it all the harder to maintain a monopoly by buyout instead of developing their own goddamn product to better service people. You're proving exactly my point that not all monopolies are bad, because natural monopolies are massively difficult to maintain by merit. >>128195327 >What I've been trying to explain but not just with monopolies on products but armed forces and borders I don't see why such things still cannot be privatized. Different competing private militias would still exist you know.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496426601 128149805,128195858,2017-06-02 18:04:28,Why are lolbertarians so afraid of letting go of the state?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496426668 128149805,128195882,2017-06-02 18:04:43,,,Anonymous,left libertarian bant.jpg,czM+Q4eX2DkRxsyK3SPmoQ==,BR,,1496426683 128149805,128195927,2017-06-02 18:05:07,">>128195858 How so?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496426707 128149805,128195942,2017-06-02 18:05:15,">>128195858 >ancaps >afraid of abolishing the state what",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496426715 128149805,128195990,2017-06-02 18:05:39,">>128194794 1. How are state granted monopolies like charters and patents ever better than natural monopolies? 2. A monopolist will almost never raise his prices above the point where volume * price starts going down. 3. If you have a monopoly on cars, you'd better keep your prices low enough that people don't start using bicycles, living closer to town, inventing flying cars etc. 4. If people are voluntarily transacting, then both parties come out ahead. Always. Always. Voluntary transactions are positive sum. 5. In the end, if you use violence or the threat of violence to make a monopolist lower his prices, then that's qualitatively no different than robbing a store. They only differ in degree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496426739 128149805,128196026,2017-06-02 18:05:57,">>128195927 >>128195942 lolbertarians are minarchists, not anarchists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496426757 128149805,128196147,2017-06-02 18:06:52,">>128195882 oh hey brazilbro, you came in just in time >>128196026 yeah some people are pussies, I get you now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496426812 128149805,128196171,2017-06-02 18:07:07,">>128196026 I approve of this meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496426827 128149805,128196187,2017-06-02 18:07:15,">>128196026 Even minarchists shouldn't be afraid of the state. Ancaps are libertarians, but in a deeper level of awakeness.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496426835 128149805,128196395,2017-06-02 18:08:55,">>128195714 Historically this isn't how it's happened. Standard oil wasn't receiving shit from the government. >Using highly effective tactics, later widely criticized, it absorbed or destroyed most of its competition in Cleveland in less than two months in 1872 and later throughout the northeastern United States. Those tactics are what I'm describing. The CA energy crisis was a result of privatizing our electricity, which lead to similar market manipulation. You can't ignore historical evidence and real world experiences with this shit in favor of theory or you're no better than the commiefags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496426935 128149805,128196708,2017-06-02 18:11:31,">>128182490 >I'd be pulling people from Africa where they barely have clean water and warlords steal their children, rape their women, and kill their men. This is mostly a meme, m8. That shit happens in isolated incidents, and in all cases there are parts of the country that are ""safe"" and those than aren't. They don't have to emigrate in order to have food and shelter. And even then, you've failed to explain why they would come to your slave camps rather than simply move to a neighboring country and start a life there, or enjoy free UN food and shelter. You may think the hypothetical you're arguing raises a valid concern, but if it's built on a wholly unrealistic premise, it's a self-defeating exercise.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496427091 128149805,128196869,2017-06-02 18:12:53,">>128196395 Standard Oil wasn't a monopoly by any sane definition. Is Wal Mart a monopoly? Is Microsoft?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496427173 128149805,128196902,2017-06-02 18:13:09,">>128195990 >1 I didn't say they were. >2 They can do whatever they want because you don't have an alternative. >3 If you have to commute 20 miles you're not using a bike. I only have to keep my product just barely more valuable than a bike. >4 The point about monopolies is they remove the voluntary side of it. If you need what I have and I'm the only one who has it you have to pay me what I ask. >5 Nobody said anything about this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496427189 128149805,128196963,2017-06-02 18:13:36,">>128191000 >There's no state in ancap, no politicians to butter up, no central state to even enforce a dictatorship. You forget: there is no state to kick out private military organisation from taxing everyone on their land. Or maybe we just call this PMC state.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1496427216 128149805,128197243,2017-06-02 18:16:17,">>128196869 >In 1904, Standard controlled 91 percent of production and 85 percent of final sales Seriously that's about as much of a monopoly as has ever been seen. No other company that exists today is anywhere near that level. Microsoft competes with Apple, Walmart with target and sams club.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496427377 128149805,128197487,2017-06-02 18:18:13,">>128196395 >Standard oil wasn't receiving shit from the government. Using highly effective tactics, later widely criticized, it absorbed or destroyed most of its competition in Cleveland in less than two months in 1872 and later throughout the northeastern United States. Those tactics are what I'm describing. I don't see the problem as Standard Oil literally did nothing wrong. People LOVED Stanard Oil's low prices, and it was extremely efficient at what it did. You don't break a natural monopoly for the sake of it, when it helped the common man afford kerosene to light up his home with lamps instead of candles. People gave SO money because they liked the service it provided. >The CA energy crisis was a result of privatizing our electricity, which lead to similar market manipulation. Oh yes, market manipulation in the presence of a state. Am I supposed to be surprised? >You can't ignore historical evidence and real world experiences with this shit in favor of theory or you're no better than the commiefags. I understand and acknowledge the importance of history, but to base actions on history alone is historical speculation. This isn't just theory, this is logical, practical, reason based on free market realities. I don't see myself in any way like commiefags when I'm neither preaching for revolution or to seize the means of production in order to uphold a convoluted shitty system like the labor theory of value. I talk about free markets, and the free market that works and has brought us success and innumerable wealth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496427493 128149805,128197526,2017-06-02 18:18:29,">>128149805 MUH WEED MUH DEBT MUH GOVERNMENT BAD MUH RATIONALIZING MY AUTISM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496427509 128149805,128197756,2017-06-02 18:20:32,">>128196963 if rogue military organizations are forcefully taxing people like a state, then they are breaking the NAP and other private militias can take care of them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496427632 128149805,128197757,2017-06-02 18:20:33,">>128197526 > Not including muh natural rights How's the state dick in your butt today?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496427633 128149805,128198339,2017-06-02 18:25:13,"discord /2EYpja Book club, starting next weej.",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-no-crime-to-be-ignorant-of-economics-which-is-after-all-a-specialized-discipline-and-one-murray-rothbard-263126.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,US,,1496427913 128149805,128198436,2017-06-02 18:25:53,">>128198339 >next weej",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496427953 128149805,128198439,2017-06-02 18:25:53,">>128197487 They liked it when it was putting its competitors out of business. They didn't when they raised prices to gouge more profit after the competition was gone. What does the state have to do with the market manipulation? They had no idea it was happening. You're not being logical. You are falling into the same trap of assuming everyone is as well meaning and good natured as yourself and you're wrong. I agree that the free market has brought us lots of wealth, but I'm not sure how free the market can be without competition. If you have a monopoly that's able and willing to crush any competition then how free is that market? Not very free for the consumer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496427953 128149805,128198570,2017-06-02 18:26:57,"Anarcho-capitalism and Libertarianism is good as long as it's the Ron Paul type. Stay away from mainstream cuckservative libertarianism, such as that of Johnson and Weld.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496428017 128149805,128198659,2017-06-02 18:27:47,">>128196902 >I didn't say they were. >complete control of either a specific resource, or a specific means of production. What did he mean by this? >They can do whatever they want because you don't have an alternative. You always have the alternative not to transact. Always. If they raise their prices too high, volume will drop off a cliff at some point and it won't be worth it. >If you have to commute 20 miles you're not using a bike. So you'll move closer or carpool. >I only have to keep my product just barely more valuable than a bike. Well what's the problem then? You're still better off buying a car than not buying a car. They've still done you a favor. >The point about monopolies is they remove the voluntary side of it. If you need what I have and I'm the only one who has it you have to pay me what I ask. You never remove the voluntary side of it. You can always go back to subsistence farming like your ancestors were happy to do. >Nobody said anything about this Anti-trust laws are exactly this. Are you not supporting anti-trust laws? You can always imagine you're living in a time before X was invented. You can't say ""now that X is invented I'm worse worse off"". In the sense that you might lose your job, the cost of living will go down more than enough to compensate, but that's an entirely different can of worms.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496428067 128149805,128198769,2017-06-02 18:28:47,">>128198339 that's not even a link you dumbass",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496428127 128149805,128199206,2017-06-02 18:32:42,">>128198439 >They didn't when they raised prices to gouge more profit after the competition was gone. Then more competition would come in, making Standard Oil bring prices back down. I honestly don't see what's wrong with this, the moment it raises prices too high, the more people are going to want to look for alternatives. >You are falling into the same trap of assuming everyone is as well meaning and good natured as yourself and you're wrong. I assume nothing but that most people are rational. The irrational ones are quickly driven out of the market. I don't assume they're well-meaning or good-natured at all, I'm no fool. If a monopoly abuses its position, people will look elsewhere because the market makes it extremely rewarding to those that provide an alternative. This is perfectly logical. >If you have a monopoly that's able and willing to crush any competition then how free is that market? Because the only way it can ""crush"" the competition is by being better than them, not by crying to big daddy state to put in more regulations into their favor that cripples competitors or subsidize their shitty business practices. The people benefit better, superior goods in a complete free market, as well as lower and lower prices.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496428362 128149805,128199306,2017-06-02 18:33:37,">>128197756 >now too PMC/states fighting each other How is it different from what we have today?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1496428417 128149805,128199504,2017-06-02 18:35:27,"***IMPORTANT*** >>128195239 → # >>128195239 → # >>128195239 → # ***IMPORTANT*** YOUTUBE TRYING TO JEW BRITISH GENERAL ELECTION! I'M SURE THE LAST THING A LIBERTARIAN WANTS IS A NEAR-COMMIE BRITAIN.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496428527 128149805,128199604,2017-06-02 18:36:25,">>128199306 it's voluntary and you're not taxed for shitty, useless, inefficient garbage that is only propped up by tax money instead of its own merit. Privately funded militias mean only the best ones remain, else a competing ones take over and people jump ship to that one. Those that can't compete for being too shitty aren't paid for and abandoned, as they should be for being shitty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496428585 128149805,128199860,2017-06-02 18:38:52,">>128152721 This desu",,Anonymous,DO_IT.jpg,DqudmDT/LPBdpW5b1d4geQ==,US,,1496428732 128149805,128199869,2017-06-02 18:38:59,">>128199504 Disgusting, cosmopolite trash. Sure I'll smash that dislike button.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496428739 128149805,128200007,2017-06-02 18:39:57,">>128198659 Show me where I said state granted monopolies are better than natural ones. >You always have the alternative not to transact. So you can pay me double what the gas should be worth or you can fuck off. That's not an alternative. An alternative would be a competitor I can go to. An alternative means of purchasing what I need. >Well what's the problem then? You're still better off buying a car than not buying a car. They've still done you a favor. The problem is that it's the competition aspect of capitalism that leads to innovation. I don't just want ""favors"" I want the world to get progressively better and I think the way to do that is through capitalist competition. >You never remove the voluntary side of it. You can always go back to subsistence farming like your ancestors were happy to do. Sure. But this is a cop-out. You're using ""voluntary"" too literally. I'm forced to either submit to your monopolistic high prices for inferior goods or go live like a savage. >Anti-trust laws are exactly this. Yeah I suppose that's right. And I don't know if I support them, but I know there's a huge fucking problem with monopolies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496428797 128149805,128200784,2017-06-02 18:44:16,">>128199206 >Then more competition would come in, making Standard Oil bring prices back down. I honestly don't see what's wrong with this, the moment it raises prices too high, the more people are going to want to look for alternatives. The problem is the entry cost. The cost to start up to compete, only to be crushed within a week. Then the consumer gets dicked around for higher prices again. >Because the only way it can ""crush"" the competition is by being better than them, Until there's no competition that they need to be better than. Then they can be as shit as they want as long as they are in an industry with a high cost to enter, like cable and internet. You're not going to run all the fuckin wires and shit if you know you'll get your ass handed to you within a month, it would be a waste of capital. You are. You are assuming the monopolies won't find a way to screw everyone from their consumers to their competition and back again, and they absolutely will.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496429056 128149805,128201459,2017-06-02 18:50:23,">>128200784 >You are assuming the monopolies won't find a way to screw everyone from their consumers to their competition and back again, and they absolutely will. They won't, which is why they lobbied for these legal barriers to entry to exist. They didn't do it for fun my man",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496429423 128149805,128201518,2017-06-02 18:50:49,">>128149805 Guys, I have a question, I am a minarchist and I firmly believe that governmental influence should be limited to the extreme basics to minimize all possibility of corruption, but at the same time I also strongly believe that it should be completely illegal to be muslim, jew, nigger of halfnigger. Does that still make me minarchist ? I get along well enough with natsoc guys but I believe that system is more flawed because it's still an authoritarian regime that can take advantage of the people, the moment the leader(s) want to do so.",,Anonymous,1496096444866.png,4LYETTaAOQPqHrOaqmuQFw==,BE,,1496429449 128149805,128201550,2017-06-02 18:51:08,">>128200784 >The problem is the entry cost. The cost to start up to compete, only to be crushed within a week. Then the consumer gets dicked around for higher prices again. Startup cost is relative, if the benefit from entering the market outweighs the costs then you would see more people do it because they're not gonna let the monopoly keep getting away with it. The people would continue to get upset, and continue to look for more alternatives when it comes up. There's not even any guarantee that this competitor would sell itself to the monopoly. Assuming that it just gets ""crushed"" always as an absolute is just unfounded. >Until there's no competition that they need to be better than. That's why competitors join in. >Then they can be as shit as they want as long as they are in an industry with a high cost to enter, like cable and internet. Oh please, this is a piss-poor example. Why does the cable and ISP industry have monopolies? Gee I don't know, maybe it's the state that lets them get away with it by having regulations and other shenanigans. >You're not going to run all the fuckin wires and shit if you know you'll get your ass handed to you within a month, it would be a waste of capital. Not really, because if you compete, then for a brief time all the customers would go for you. It will be worth it, because the people have been abused and they will make the switch in a heartbeat. >You are assuming the monopolies won't find a way to screw everyone from their consumers to their competition and back again, and they absolutely will. And how do they magically ""screw"" people over? with that? a state? don't be ridiculous. They have no more power to ""screw"" people over than their product alone",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496429468 128149805,128201553,2017-06-02 18:51:09,">>128200784 >You are assuming the monopolies won't find a way to screw everyone from their consumers to their competition and back again, and they absolutely will. They won't, which is why they lobbied for these legal barriers to entry to exist. They didn't do it for fun my man. Natural monopolies are a commie meme.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496429469 128149805,128201674,2017-06-02 18:52:22,">>128201459 Lol they will. They lobbied for the legal barriers to entry as a way to fuck their consumers and their competition. You don't think they'd find a free market way to do that, but you think they'd find a way to get the government to do that? That's absurd.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496429542 128149805,128201691,2017-06-02 18:52:29,">>128201518 It makes you a ""small government nationalist"" I guess.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496429549 128149805,128201708,2017-06-02 18:52:35,">>128197243 >91 percent of production and 85 percent of final sales In the US. They had plenty of global competition. Also, the reason they had 85% of final sales was because their kerosene was the cheapest on the market. That's called competition, and is precisely what we wanted. Is it any surprise that Standard's far less competitive and efficient rivals were the most vocal proponents of its dissolution by the government? Cronyism at its finest.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496429555 128149805,128201824,2017-06-02 18:53:30,">>128201674 >but you think they'd find a way to get the government to do that? That's absurd. They just get a laws passed by government, much easier...",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496429610 128149805,128201879,2017-06-02 18:53:50,">>128201518 >I firmly believe that governmental influence should be limited to the extreme basics to minimize all possibility of corruption, >it should be completely illegal to be muslim, jew, nigger of halfnigger. I see no contradiction. Welcome aboard, minarchist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496429630 128149805,128202048,2017-06-02 18:55:06,">>128201674 >You don't think they'd find a free market way to do that How would you even do this in a free market when there's no central state to lobby to",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496429706 128149805,128202203,2017-06-02 18:56:36,">>128201518 watch this video, it should answer your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8RY48UVX8Y >>128201674 If someone owns all the smart phone production (what apple had some years ago), then apple can charge whatever price they want for the product. If apple starts to blow up the factories of android smartphones, that's property damage. The difference is, a legal barrier is a law enforced by the government. It's very hard to change something like that. Hair cutters asked for a license to be necessary to cut other's hair, in order to keep out new competition that could not get a license. How many people you know care about getting the government out of haircutting? It is such a small law and it is so hard to individually remove, the better solution is to reduce the government's power as a whole.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496429796 128149805,128202283,2017-06-02 18:57:22,"Fellow lrg comrades, for who would you vote in the UK election?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496429842 128149805,128202285,2017-06-02 18:57:23,">>128201550 They run them out of business, they don't need to buy them. Look at standard oil. They put their competitors out of business then jacked prices. Any new kid on the block got a standard oil across the street with lower prices to knock him out, then jack prices up again once he was gone. >Why does the cable and ISP industry have monopolies? Gee I don't know, what is infrastructure cost? You can't blame the state for everything, just most things. What do you mean how do you magically screw people over? You eliminatethe competition, scare people from becoming your competitors by eliminating your competition fiercely, then jack up prices and sell inferior products. It's a really simple scheme. So simple in fact that drug dealers do it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496429843 128149805,128202440,2017-06-02 18:58:52,">>128149805 REMOVE THEM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496429932 128149805,128202466,2017-06-02 18:59:04,">>128199604 >voluntary been here done that. Voluntary military loses to enforced military. Classic case Russian Civil war. As much ANCAP as you can be in modern times. Red Army started as voluntary staffed and supplied , democratically ruled organisation all carding to fair tail from marx book but very fast switched to forced conscription, extortion of food and central command from Petersburg all under threat of instant death sentence punishment. Extortion (taxes) is too effective method of obtaining resources competitor not having access to this method loses. BTW similar happened in USA to when federal government state to grow and push taxes, regulations federal reserve system on states. And states were have no choice but to agree as feds accumulated to much resources and therefore military power to compete with. >Privately funded militias mean only the best ones remain... Your just destined why violence market is inherently unstable and drift to the monopolization side. And who have monopoly of violence now? Oh boy. >but monopoly can't grow infinitely because x-inefficiency This how were have limited size states with borders.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1496429944 128149805,128202727,2017-06-02 19:01:25,">>128201691 I'm not sure about that, I find that on that side the people are still too vulnerable to government corruption and the more you move towards nationalism, the less it becomes ""rights of the people"" and more towards the wellbeing of the country itself and not the people personally. >>128201879 Really? Because I mean, I have questions, like is it really still minarchism if I believe that there should be failsafes in place against communism, nig riots and shit ( or niggers in general ) ? Because in a way it sounds like what I believe in isn't 100% the libertarian view. >>128202203 Thank you gonna watch it now. Also does anyone else believe that, after all the jews, communists and nigs have done, that it requires a holocaust tier cleansing ? I don't consider it a violation of the NAP, because they started it, and thus it makes them the violators. I'm struggling a bit finding my place and I like to imagine that my place is within the libertarian part, but that extreme measures are necessary to achieve such a state ( or lack thereof ).",,Anonymous,1494276885486.png,k8PxL2s8njELzZSJTCdA7g==,BE,,1496430085 128149805,128202729,2017-06-02 19:01:25,">>128202285 >They run them out of business, they don't need to buy them. Look at standard oil. They put their competitors out of business then jacked prices that's his right. If he is providing oil, he can charge whatever price he damn well pleases. The desire to improve some common good does not trump a person's rights. The more likely case is that people would switch from oil to a different technology. Whale oil had a massive shortage (you could assume this situation is similar to a monopoly jacking up prices), and people developed and used kerosene instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430085 128149805,128202747,2017-06-02 19:01:32,">>128202048 You don't need to lobby to manipulate the markets and fuck your competition and the competitor. You just buy more shit. If I'm running cable I buy the telephone poles and don't let you use them so you have to build your own. Maybe I'll buy the sidewalk so you can't erect them anyway. Maybe I'll buy the company that makes the cables so you can't even buy cables. Or I'll buy the construction companies and won't let you hire them. There's a million ways I could make your barriers big enough that it would be fiscally irresponsible for you to try to compete with me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430092 128149805,128202770,2017-06-02 19:01:46,Redpill me on ancap view about environmentalism and army.,,Anonymous,18557352_1893322507587888_5770883258872836566_n.jpg,d+y4fd2X5gblk6kdbkTypA==,PT,,1496430106 128149805,128202848,2017-06-02 19:02:23,">>128197243 thats still not a monopoly. and they sure as hell werent at 85 percent when the antitrust kicked in",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430143 128149805,128202938,2017-06-02 19:03:03,">>128202729 Dude nobody said it's not his right. I'm telling you monopolies aren't all going to be beneficial, not that it's not his right. He'd just buy the alternative energy patents or whatever and start the process again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430183 128149805,128203001,2017-06-02 19:03:36,soon brothers...,,Anonymous,1496364677365.png,2u5LeE75FXDGNa02PES2/A==,AU,,1496430216 128149805,128203067,2017-06-02 19:04:09,">>128198439 >They didn't when they raised prices to gouge more profit after the competition was gone. is this why people are socialist? they just assume what happened in history based on emotion? please define the exact month in the exact year that standard ""gouged"" the price",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430249 128149805,128203103,2017-06-02 19:04:23,">>128202848 Yeah, they weren't even a full monopoly and look how they were able to strangle competition and gouge consumers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430263 128149805,128203104,2017-06-02 19:04:25,">>128199504 Labour's manifesto literally looks like the strategy section of The Communist Manifesto. They want to nationalise everything. It's disgusting. My favourite part is where they said that: 'only the very richest will be asked to pay a little more' - 'asked'.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496430265 128149805,128203260,2017-06-02 19:05:41,">>128202285 >Any new kid on the block got a standard oil across the street with lower prices to knock him out, then jack prices up again once he was gone. And so another competitor comes in when they jack up prices, and the customers enjoy competition and low prices. We've already had this discussion. >Gee I don't know, what is infrastructure cost? Relative, when beating the monopoly means they get all of those new customers. People might give a startup loans if it means they get a cut of that potentially massive pie that the monopoly is currently hording for itself. >You eliminatethe competition, scare people from becoming your competitors by eliminating your competition fiercely, then jack up prices and sell inferior products. I don't think you understand, that you simply cannot do this as an industry. You can't ""scare"" away competitors forever; more and more will just come in to try and compete for your product. And if your monopoly product is as jacked up, shitty, and abusive as you say it is, then people will make the switch instantly because they're fed up and want change. I'm not denying that monopolies can jack up prices. I'm just letting you know that when they do, there's so much incentive for competitors to come in and join. With no regulations to keep the entry barrier high, that monopoly just won't last long unless it's a natural monopoly earned by merit as the truly superior product.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430341 128149805,128203338,2017-06-02 19:06:17,">>128202770 Everybody reaps its karma. If your factory spoils my nature, you can die. If your army robs people, destroys their property or kills them, you all can die and all your relatives can die. With modern technologies, and especially with technologies of the future, anybody can kill you if you're out of your home for too big slice of the pie. Beware of your apetite.",,Anonymous,w48Fi4lvvZo[1].jpg,Ql2mBpQ/5qiDSBlbnFOxcg==,RU,,1496430377 128149805,128203683,2017-06-02 19:09:13,">>128203067 >is this why people are socialist? they just assume what happened in history based on emotion? Yes. The hypothetical, but never really existed, natural monopoly is one of the key reasons for socialist support.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496430553 128149805,128203799,2017-06-02 19:10:13,">>128202203 Ok that video was beautiful, I also believe this guy might be my doppleganger. I have a question though about public property. In a minarchist system, where government would be limited to the bare minimum to avoid corruption as we have all witnessed today in this day and age. Who would be responsible for parks and forests ? I believe there would be a need for certain dedicated spaces to keep at least some kind of fresh air, but I wouldn't want people to have to be responsible for it themselves, does anyone find it ridiculous that a government would be partially responsible for a bit of green in the country ? I mean surely there will be some groups who would want to keep nature balanced in their spare time, but would it be against the libertarian ideology to have some failsafes in place about this as well, without shifting over to nationalism and shitload of dumb laws ? Also where to order Kek Statue within Europe ?",,Anonymous,1496101103973.png,WSZg12OFvsp/zw/8/lCENg==,BE,,1496430613 128149805,128203940,2017-06-02 19:11:33,">>128203067 Shit, I've been failed by my high school education. We spent like a month on this shit and took the charges levied at Standard by the state at face value. But I just found this trying to get an answer for you: http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/13/vindicating-standard-oil-100-years-later/ So I've got some digging and thinking to do. Good chat, lads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430693 128149805,128204026,2017-06-02 19:12:25,">>128203338 In that case, if someone ruthless owns a factory in a third world country with no important biological resources on a global scale (like the amazon or an important water souce), he won't give 2 shits about their environment.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1496430745 128149805,128204048,2017-06-02 19:12:36,">>128203103 >gouge consumers. When Standard first came on the scene, kerosene was 30 cents per gallon. By 1897, when it controlled a significant share of the market, the price had dropped to around 5 cents. There is literally no recorded instance of Standard Oil price gouging consumers.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496430756 128149805,128204102,2017-06-02 19:13:12,">>128202466 >Voluntary military loses to enforced military. How do you know this, and is it an absolute, 100% of the time, always and forever? I appreciate the history lesson, and while it is true that taxation does help in concentrating revenue for war, you cannot dismiss as an absolute that voluntary is always inferior. Take for example the modern US military, which has been a voluntary military for decades that completely decimates their opponents. It has been so effective, that the enemy has resorted to cheap guerrilla tactics just to survive in the shadows because they know they don't stand a chance out in the open. >Your just destined why violence market is inherently unstable and drift to the monopolization side. And who have monopoly of violence now? Oh boy. I don't understand what you're trying to say. Private militias have tons of firepower, that's the point. But they don't have a monopoly of violence, because if they abuse their position and break the NAP, then other private militias will seek to neutralize them. It's just more profitable to remain holding the best weapons, using it when necessary, instead of becoming a tyrant with it. >This how were have limited size states with borders. What?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430792 128149805,128204173,2017-06-02 19:13:48,">>128204048 Yeah I was just looking for evidence to back my claim and found literally the opposite. >>128203940 Thanks for not giving up on me",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496430828 128149805,128204740,2017-06-02 19:19:15,">>128203940 >>128204173 >I've been failed by my high school education If it's any consolation, so has everyone. The first and most important step is to recognize that things you take for granted may not actually be true. The rest will come with time and research. Not too many people even get this far, consider yourself fortunate.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496431155 128149805,128204820,2017-06-02 19:19:55,">>128204026 But we (semi-crazy eco activists with self-assembling international off-shore mobile counter-factories) will. There're at least two sides on the globalization coin. Potentially there're billions of them.",,Anonymous,RizfrWMsyUs[1].jpg,rWLZusg2A/kS1WcpLVR54A==,RU,,1496431195 128149805,128204822,2017-06-02 19:19:56,">>128202727 >is it really still minarchism if I believe that there should be failsafes in place against communism, nig riots and shit ( or niggers in general ) You believe that government is to be reserved to the absolute necessary. Having that safeguard is part of what is necessary, according to what you had said earlier. There is no contradiction, you can still be minarchist as you said if it's still limited government everywhere else. >>128202747 >If I'm running cable I buy the telephone poles and don't let you use them so you have to build your own. Then we build our own network? I don't see the problem? Also, that's already a pretty big assumption they would cooperate with you since those companies know you're just using your position to keep jewing the people. Why would they help someone that's actively making their own lives worse? Again, these are rational agents that look for their own interests, not just greed stereotypes like what commies say. >Maybe I'll buy the sidewalk so you can't erect them anyway. Then we build somewhere else? Also, that's already a pretty big assumption they would cooperate with you since those companies know you're just using your position to keep jewing the people. Why would they help someone that's actively making their own lives worse? Again, these are rational agents that look for their own interests, not just greed stereotypes like what commies say. >Maybe I'll buy the company that makes the cables so you can't even buy cables Then we develop an alternative? Also, that's already a pretty big assumption they would cooperate with you since those companies know you're just using your position to keep jewing the people. Why would they help someone that's actively making their own lives worse? Again, these are rational agents that look for their own interests, not just greed stereotypes like what commies say.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496431196 128149805,128205043,2017-06-02 19:21:57,">>128204740 Yeah I mean I've gotten rid of most of the shit they've tried to plug into my head and was pretty resistant to it all through high school, but I don't know why this one stuck. I come in these threads to argue so I can learn, not convince. Glad I did. Here's a paper for anyone else that's interested: https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa169.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496431317 128149805,128205133,2017-06-02 19:22:47,">>128202747 >I'll buy the construction companies and won't let you hire them You're seriously going to buy every single construction company in existence? That's already a pretty big assumption since those companies know you're just using your position to keep jewing the people. >There's a million ways I could make your barriers big enough that it would be fiscally irresponsible for you to try to compete with me. And there's a million more, nay, infinite, ways people could get around you or just flat out reject your scheme because they know what you're doing and would prefer having an alternative around. There's no government. It's not law. You can keep wasting your own precious capital to protect a shitty breakable monopoly instead of just refining your protect to earn its place legitimately. At some point, you'll just break if enough people are fed up with you and straight up boycott",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496431367 128149805,128205235,2017-06-02 19:23:38,">>128204822 Okay, time to commit a bit more to the cause then. Gonna try to find a Gadsden flag that's actually written as Don't instead of Dont because of my autism and I'll start ordering some merchandise. Remain untreaded upon brothers.",,Anonymous,1494269551684.png,OuDRtlyA/LdtiaK7/qtqiw==,BE,,1496431418 128149805,128205320,2017-06-02 19:24:27,">>128204822 Their rational interest would by my money. But now I've realized I'm the one creating the hypothetical scenario and ignoring historical evidence that goes contrary to my position, so I rescind my previous arguments. It's been fun and thanks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496431467 128149805,128205561,2017-06-02 19:26:50,">>128204102 >voluntary military >tax financed mercenaries >so ancap >wow Well you may say that they are voluntary. But who supplies them with money are not, so doesn't help the case. >But they don't have a monopoly of violence, because if they abuse their position and break the NAP, then other private militias will seek to neutralize them. And then strongest will win and rule the land. And here >>128199604 you described snowball effect of people running away from weak as soon as they perceive they are on the loosing side. So no balance and eventuality one PMC will completely prevail (and of course after they make absolutely sure that on land they rule no competitors will arise and install weapons control).",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1496431610 128149805,128205692,2017-06-02 19:28:00,">>128204820 You're right. Haven't thought about that. That's hilarious. They're gonna use their private Tomahawk™ missiles on the factory.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1496431680 128149805,128206130,2017-06-02 19:32:02,">>128205320 >Their rational interest would by my money. How do you know this and is it an absolute? >But now I've realized I'm the one creating the hypothetical scenario and ignoring historical evidence that goes contrary to my position, so I rescind my previous arguments. It's been fun and thanks. Ah, all good then. Yeah it's been fun. A lot of people seem to fixate and buy into the meme that Standard was literally hitler: the company or something, and I remember that from my own high school experience. I suspected it was bullshit though, because it was an all too much (((coincidence))) that the state = good, and free market = bad. Bastards even blamed the Great Depression on Coolidge, who gave us the Roaring Twenties. Bastards. >>128205561 >tax financed mercenaries What? They not paid by taxes, that's the point. They're paid voluntarily. >But who supplies them with money People privately pay them on a voluntary basis? That's how they're given funding. No taxes. If you want military (as people naturally will), then they will pay money for military on their own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496431922 128149805,128206277,2017-06-02 19:33:25,">>128206130 >They not paid by taxes, that's the point. >US military is not paid by taxes",,Anonymous,1456857835792.jpg,/Kv+zmzOXLFQuLSOsSGfsQ==,RU,,1496432005 128149805,128206632,2017-06-02 19:36:34,">>128205561 >So no balance and eventuality one PMC will completely prevail What are you even saying? Sure, there may be a natural monopoly but that's fine, as long as people voluntarily pay for it. >after they make absolutely sure that on land they rule no competitors will arise That's the thing, they CAN'T stop competition from forming. That's the point. Private militias can come and go, and the best stays. If PMC monopoly is there, but they're actually shit, then people go elsewhere. >and install weapons control) Weapons control? In AnCap? Are you serious? The moment you try and stripe other people's freedom then the other private militias will go after you and your own funding will go against you. The citizens themselves are still armed, so they can go guerrilla if need be. I don't think you seem to really understand AnCap if you assume freedom can be taken away at any point without consequence, not when the ideology itself is centered on the idea of maximum freedom right from the start.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496432194 128207364,128207364,2017-06-02 19:42:49,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_lrg.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,GB,,1496432569 128207364,128209512,2017-06-02 20:02:16,">>128207364 16 minutes old Page 10 Anyway Gary North published a recommend reading list on economics https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/06/gary-north/books-austrian-economics/ What is everyone's opinion on soldiers who got to fight in foreign wars? Particularly > Vietnam Justified since we were defending the pro-freedom South Viets. > Gulf/Iraqi Unjustified. We had no reason to enter the war. > Afghanistan Unjustified. Plenty of reasons why the elite would want American troops on Afghani soil.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496433736 128207364,128209545,2017-06-02 20:02:35,ya fuck off m8,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496433755 128207364,128209952,2017-06-02 20:06:24,c u c k,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496433984 128207364,128210156,2017-06-02 20:08:36,>>128207364,,Anonymous,1496192748785.png,fnsJB+qrRXiODS+MvW7Xgg==,US,,1496434116 128207364,128212648,2017-06-02 20:31:46,Founding Father reporting in. lets rev this shit up.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496435506 128207364,128212733,2017-06-02 20:32:27,ALL SOCIALISM IS TOTALITARIAN IN INTENT.,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1496435547 128207364,128212877,2017-06-02 20:33:46,"discord /fr6hDT book club",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496435626 128207364,128212931,2017-06-02 20:34:23,"The state does not fend off degeneracy, the state subsidizes it",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1496435663 128207364,128212972,2017-06-02 20:34:50,">>128212877 What is the group reading? I'd get involved if I knew it wasn't somthing ive read already.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496435690 128207364,128213202,2017-06-02 20:37:10,">Do you support open borders? No, in a private property society the only people who would have ""freedom of movement"" to enter said property would have to be specifically invited in, by default this would mean no one is allowed in without the property owner's consent. Murray Rothbard had this to say on the matter. If every piece of land in a country were owned by some person, group, or corporation, this would mean that no person could enter unless invited to enter and allowed to rent or purchase property. A totally privatized country would be as closed as the particular property owner's desire. It seems clear, then, that the regime of open borders that exists de facto in the U.S. and Western Europe really amounts to a compulsory opening by the central state, the state in charge of all streets and public land areas, and does not genuinely reflect the wishes of the proprietors. Any state that enforces a policy of open borders is violating the proprietors right to exclusion. Open borders is a very anti-libertarian policy, and an assault on private property. More on this issue: >Nations by Consent - Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Natural Order, The State, and the Immigration Problem - Hans-Hermann Hoppe http://famguardian.org/subjects/Discrimination/Articles/RightToExclude.pdf >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property - Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1496435830 128207364,128213578,2017-06-02 20:41:00,">>128212972 We are still deciding, going to start on Monday for sure. I mean there's no harm in joining and taking part of the discussion for works you already read, or just taking a hiatus until we get to something you want to read and talk about. We are probably gonna spend a few weeks on a book, and at the same time read an essay/novella a week.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496436060 128207364,128213644,2017-06-02 20:41:41,">>128207364 Why didn't jewnigger Ayn speak against the ""most primitive form of collectivism"" is Israel? A schizo or a kike?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1496436101 128207364,128213915,2017-06-02 20:44:03,How does libertarianism deal with things like planned obsolescence and environmental conservation?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496436243 128207364,128214721,2017-06-02 20:51:41,">>128213915 I haven't put much thought into planned obsolescence, maybe if one company kept making products that became useless after a few years someone would buy the guys product whose didn't. just a thought as far as the enviorment goes, in a private property society all land is privately owned, so you can only dump your waste on your property, or someone elses with their allowance. dumping sewage into your own lake destroys the value of your property, making it unsellable. because of this people may rely more on waste removal services, industry for the purpose of removing and de-toxifying waste.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496436701 128207364,128214920,2017-06-02 20:53:20,,,Anonymous,0PzOV8n.png,WwLdZ9jlJ6VwYehr7MiRkw==,FI,,1496436800 128207364,128214972,2017-06-02 20:53:49,">>128207364 I never can get a straight answer from you guys. How do roads work in Ancap utopia?",,Anonymous,ThisInfrastructureKillsAncaps.jpg,PyDJMOUyzVoO4YfCnIpSRw==,CA,,1496436829 128207364,128215102,2017-06-02 20:55:05,">>128214721 I never thought about the property value component of environmental destruction, makes sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496436905 128207364,128215136,2017-06-02 20:55:25,>>128214920,,Anonymous,dude.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,US,,1496436925 128207364,128215415,2017-06-02 20:57:51,">>128214972 They don't. We've evolved to embrace a road free society.",,Anonymous,aFUCKINGleaf.png,1zFCf5y7k31IRvYPKtmduA==,US,,1496437071 128207364,128215537,2017-06-02 20:59:11,">>128213915 http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160612-heres-the-truth-about-the-planned-obsolescence-of-tech",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1496437151 128207364,128215656,2017-06-02 21:00:23,>>128214972,,Anonymous,1486694850560.jpg,+JnAHjdxQjg1t8UbRG3Ggg==,US,,1496437223 128207364,128215840,2017-06-02 21:01:58,">The answer: yes, but with caveats. Beyond the crude caricature of greedy companies wantonly fleecing their customers, the practice does have silver linings. To an extent, planned obsolescence is an inevitable consequence of sustainable businesses giving people goods they desire. In this way, planned obsolescence serves as a reflection of a ravenous, consumer culture which industries did create for their benefit, yet were hardly alone in doing so. >“Fundamentally, firms are reacting to the tastes of the consumers,” says Judith Chevalier, a professor of finance and economics at Yale University. “I think there are some avenues where [businesses] are kind of tricking the consumer, but I think there are also situations where I might put the fault on the consumer.” They're not only admitting it's real, and common practice. They're justifying it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496437318 128207364,128215892,2017-06-02 21:02:27,">>128215840 see here>>128215537",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496437347 128207364,128216444,2017-06-02 21:07:36,">>128215656 Were's the article about the Russian bootleggers fixing potholes in secrecy over night to boost their business?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496437656 128207364,128216458,2017-06-02 21:07:47,,,Anonymous,Hoppe.png,E1SsmH/0HtXXnGXkxZecrg==,US,,1496437667 128207364,128216621,2017-06-02 21:09:18,">>128207364 Alternative/Independent Party's should work on filling the gaps the DNC is leaving. http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/",,Anonymous5,Pyramidz.jpg,VJfTrDSEn1je8f7y/rdkig==,US,,1496437758 128207364,128217330,2017-06-02 21:16:13,">>128214972 Privately owned and built.",,Anonymous,download (2).jpg,pGqdtdiapDTWucGpobnT0Q==,GB,,1496438173 128207364,128218043,2017-06-02 21:23:05,You guys know Ron Paul has a wicked high /lrg/ power level right?,,Anonymous,enhanced-buzz-29173-1318023524-5.jpg,2oNycueprcQv3YaUFBmo2g==,US,,1496438585 128207364,128218073,2017-06-02 21:23:24,,,Anonymous,1491407014760.jpg,GlEe8arP6SbraxSCyM94wg==,US,,1496438604 128207364,128218144,2017-06-02 21:24:09,>>128207364,,Anonymous,IMG_2709.gif,K+vriTNv/JNLG9LjKC+oQw==,US,,1496438649 128207364,128218198,2017-06-02 21:24:42,">>128214920 Once again, the bottom right is the only one not murdering",,Anonymous,strawmeme.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,US,,1496438682 128207364,128218218,2017-06-02 21:24:52,,,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,US,,1496438692 128207364,128218239,2017-06-02 21:25:02,,,Anonymous,IMG_2598.jpg,75WMptd1WaWWp5arR7oFlQ==,US,,1496438702 128207364,128218412,2017-06-02 21:26:44,,,Anonymous,IMG_2465.png,Zj01mtweZTl2UhiKqAPevQ==,US,,1496438804 128207364,128218417,2017-06-02 21:26:49,,,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,US,,1496438809 128207364,128218429,2017-06-02 21:26:59,">>128214972 Ancap is not Libertarian. Utopia is a statist idea. Roads aren't exactly the first thing on the libertarian agenda.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496438819 128207364,128218465,2017-06-02 21:27:22,,,Anonymous,IMG_2469.png,6Fri1z1L+n6co21Xqo1oqA==,US,,1496438842 128207364,128218543,2017-06-02 21:28:00,">>128218412 nice timing.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1496438880 128207364,128218572,2017-06-02 21:28:20,">>128218043 yep",,Anonymous,ron_on_homos.jpg,A3K2RGPEFVeZrvy2Fx6Fjg==,GB,,1496438900 128207364,128218627,2017-06-02 21:28:56,"17 IP's in this thread This is pitiful",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496438936 128207364,128218632,2017-06-02 21:29:00,We have a few more,,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,GB,,1496438940 128207364,128218652,2017-06-02 21:29:07,">>128218218 >>128218073 >>128218043 RON PAUL STAND TALL!",,Anonymous,IMG_2153.jpg,NEeNTKJr7lF7H90rBjM9sg==,US,,1496438947 128207364,128218685,2017-06-02 21:29:30,,,Anonymous,lrg_fiery.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,GB,,1496438970 128207364,128218770,2017-06-02 21:30:17,">>128218652 Ron Paul Stand Tall",,Anonymous,pol_ancap_logo.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,GB,,1496439017 128207364,128218801,2017-06-02 21:30:36,">>128218632 I've got the rares.",,Anonymous,Froggo.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,US,,1496439036 128207364,128218905,2017-06-02 21:31:33,">>128218801 Poast all rares!",,Anonymous,IMG_0965.jpg,6JkEN4d48gb94T9IqXILIw==,US,,1496439093 128207364,128218928,2017-06-02 21:31:51,">>128218572 Did he actually say these things? If so, he is based. >>128218627 There is a psychology to statism",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496439111 128207364,128218941,2017-06-02 21:31:58,,,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1496439118 128207364,128218988,2017-06-02 21:32:30,">>128218905 Did you save the thumbnail there or something?",,Anonymous,1488_1776.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,GB,,1496439150 128207364,128219052,2017-06-02 21:33:06,">>128218905 Heres the crypto-monarchist death metal version >>128218928 He denies he wrote them. but its pretty clear he did.",,Anonymous,Monarchy.png,shQ0vXATgrTRWOoqBgtuOg==,US,,1496439186 128207364,128219172,2017-06-02 21:34:00,">>128218988 I might've, yeah. Do you have a clean one? Also, checked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496439240 128207364,128219357,2017-06-02 21:35:45,">>128219052 They're all true and it pisses me off that lefties would decry that for being racist or sexist just because it hurts their feelings. The fact these irrational morons have a say in society makes me angry.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496439345 128207364,128219371,2017-06-02 21:35:56,,,Anonymous,Banner.png,nYdagc4xxLqNBLQdxrNn3g==,US,,1496439356 128207364,128219376,2017-06-02 21:36:02,yall need Jesus you degenerate fucks!,,Anonymous,acb.jpg,XhtdRCMw6tHn+j76/QZleQ==,US,,1496439362 128207364,128219514,2017-06-02 21:37:14,">>128219376 Jesus is cool man. I like that guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496439434 128207364,128219572,2017-06-02 21:37:53,,,Anonymous,IMG_1672.jpg,Ok3nocr3pGW2/hWDBpDjMQ==,US,,1496439473 128207364,128219575,2017-06-02 21:37:54,">>128219376 see >>128212931",,Anonymous,nbVuniX.jpg,Gn5N6HIHWhP7wzlCgBgy+A==,GB,,1496439474 128207364,128219727,2017-06-02 21:39:25,">>128219376 In my commune we would only permit Christians in. Think New England Puritan colonies.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496439565 128207364,128219760,2017-06-02 21:39:42,"Does it bother you all that libertarianism doesn't seem to appeal to people? Seems almost like it's very hollow, disconnected from real humans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496439582 128207364,128220049,2017-06-02 21:42:50,">>128219760 I have also noticed most people are completely disinterested in philosophy. Like asking the big questions in life, whether there is a God, or what is the purpose of life? Many people are just boring. The public school system doesn't help. Instead it produces these drones who are very unquestioning of authority. Have you noticed the rises in tattoos? That's just a sign people are sheep and do whatever the people on TV do. Always have been. That's why we will have seceded from the rest of them. But also, a lot of people depend on government handouts and have become to complacent.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496439770 128207364,128220218,2017-06-02 21:44:26,">>128219727 >commune",,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,GB,,1496439866 128207364,128220269,2017-06-02 21:44:55,"I'm ancap a/f... and Anarcho-Capitalism can reign supreme but it first needs to ditch the NAP as an inherent property of mankind and instead fully embrace a David Freidman consequentialist stance. Only then, can it begin to start being taken as a serious proposition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496439895 128207364,128220318,2017-06-02 21:45:22,">>128220269 I think we need a Christian framework.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496439922 128207364,128220347,2017-06-02 21:45:40,">>128220049 You want to know an ideology that actually inspires people? That gets their blood pumping, and their eyes burning with fire? Nationalism. An actual high-tier heavyweight ideology that can stand toe-to-toe in the ring with Communism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496439940 128207364,128220535,2017-06-02 21:47:29,">>128220347 Yep I agree. I believe Christianity will do just that. The Bible recognizes the nation was an extension of the divinely instituted family unit. Man is head of the family. Many families make up a clan, and many claims make up a nation. I can't see white nationalism working. Anglo-Saxon nationalism is the only viable way for Americans.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496440049 128207364,128220813,2017-06-02 21:50:35,">>128220535 Nationalism is rising. It's almost a mathematical reaction to the massive social upheaval caused by immigration and degeneracy. This is not fading away, it's getting stronger and stronger. This is our way to win https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2_RbFfkAv0",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496440235 128207364,128220958,2017-06-02 21:52:10,">>128220813 Please stop with European nationalism. No such thing exists. Ethnic nationalism is what I stand for. Not this ambiguous ""white"" nationalism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496440330 128207364,128221036,2017-06-02 21:52:57,">>128220958 no fuck that, no more brother wars Untied we stand, divided we fall",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496440377 128207364,128221221,2017-06-02 21:54:41,">>128221036 I see you're one of those 'mutts'. I have more in common with a Greek than a Zambian. But I am nonetheless different from him. It's funny that you're a 'white nationalist' yet the form of nationalism you want is one where everyone speaks English and celebrates Anglo and Germanic holidays.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496440481 128207364,128221521,2017-06-02 21:57:45,"Flaws in Austrian economics and the writings of Rothbard + Mises **2.1 Utility Scales** Modern neoclassical economics use utility functions to describe the preference of individuals. For example, it may be established that an individual’s utility U=a*1n(quantity of apples)+(1-a)*1n(quantity of oranges). Rothbard instead preferred to discuss the concept of ‘value scales’ for individuals. For example, an individual person’s preferences could be given by {1st apple, 2nd apple, 1st orange, 3rd apple... etc}. Both approaches provide an obvious interpretation of “utility maximisation”. For neoclassical economics, the individual person would be selecting the largest feasible value of U, while for Rothbard a maximizing individual satisfied the highest-ranked feasible preferences on his value scale. Rothbard’s criticism of the utility functions is this - ```“Value scales of each individual are purely ordinal (first, second, third) and there is no concept of ‘distance’ or ‘measurement’ between things eg cardinality (One, two, three, fourteen, etc)”``` **Rothbard writes:** ```“The chief errors here consist in conceiving utility as a certain quantity, a definite function of an increment of the commodity…”``` Utility is not a set number but a rank - dismissing the cardinal utility functions that neoclassical economists use.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496440665 128207364,128221556,2017-06-02 21:58:05,"**Rothbard goes on to dismiss an ‘intermediate’ microeconomics theory of:** ```“in equilibrium the ratio of the marginal utilities of the various goods equals the ratio of their prices Without going into tons of detail and boring on for ages, we can see its absurd conclusion since utilities are quantities and therefore cannot be divided into the ratios the theory speaks of”``` However Rothbard doesn’t understand the position he is attacking here. Utility function approach is based as solidly on ordinal utility as his own theory is although he misunderstands the point neoclassicals make.. The modern neoclassical theorists like Debreau who developed this utility function approach went out of their way to avoid the use of cardinal utility. For example they might say that ```“bundle A offers utility of 8, while bundle B offers utility of 7”``` - Rothbard concludes this means that they are talking about cardinal utility. But the language here is technical and you need to check the definitions. Upon doing so you can find that the meaning of the statement is nothing more or less than *“bundle one is preferred to bundle two”* - the function itself is just a shorthand way of expressing this. This is why neoclassicals say that the utility function is uniquely defined *up to a monotonic transformation (scaled mapping)*. You can rescale the utility function any way you want and it will still work, provided it’s monotonic. This comes to absurd conclusions. Rothbard rejected this utility-function approach, and it led to ad hoc concessions and admittals in his writings.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496440685 128207364,128221577,2017-06-02 21:58:23,"writings. Using the value scale method he developed, he could derive the laws of supply and demand as theorems. For whatever reason after that though, he decided to concede that ‘backward’ bending supply curves can exist. Furthermore in his discussion on taxation’s impact on economics, he admits the possibility of greater taxation of labour income could induce an increase in labour supply, even going into the realm of mention a ‘substitution’ and an ‘income’ effect which his initial treatment of utility theory and demand utterly failed to mention. What’s pretty interesting here is that Rothbard was unable to derive the substitution and income effects from *his own method*. Rather he borrowed it from the standard utility function analysis which he criticised so much. In short, Rothbard dismissed the neoclassical economic approach to utility theory, but decided to apply it ad hoc when it suited his arguments or lines of thinking. **2.2 Indifference** So the utility function approach has a final implication that Rothbard ALSO rejected for reasons I don’t fully understand. Let’s go back to using your typical neoclassical definitions and mathematical expressions. U(a)>U(b) simply means that given choice *a* or choice *b* both with utility U, *a* will be chosen. The same way U(a)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496440703 128207364,128221609,2017-06-02 21:58:40,"The essential objection to these curves and their analyses is that it’s impossible for action to demonstrate indifference. Action demonstrates *preference*, not *indifference*. Rothbard put it this way ```“The crucial fallacy is *that indifference cannot be a basis for action*. If a man were really indifferent between two alternatives he could not make any choice, and therefore the choice wouldn’t be revealed in action.”``` The important assumption here - one that Mises and Rothbard both shared, is that no preference can exist which cannot be revealed in action. But why bother assuming this? Is this not an importation of behaviourism into a body of solely economic thought which purports to be militantly anti-behavioural? Rothbard tells us in his introduction to Mises’ *Theory and History:* ```One example that Mises liked to use in his class to demonstrate the difference between two fundamental ways of approaching human behavior was looking at Grand Central Station behavior during rush hour. The ""objective"" or ""truly scientific"" behaviorist, he pointed out, would observe the empirical events: e.g., people rushing back and forth, aimlessly at certain predictable times of day. And that is all he would know. But the true student of human action would start from the fact that all human behavior is purposive, and he would see the purpose is to get from home to the train to work in the morning, the opposite at night, etc. It is obvious which one would discover and know more about human behavior, and therefore which one would be the genuine 'scientist.```",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496440720 128207364,128221640,2017-06-02 21:58:57,"Just as there is more to my actions than my behaviour, there is more to my preferences than my action. I can have all sorts of preferences that are not - *and could not be*- revealed in my actions. For example my preference for ice cream yesterday can no longer be revealed, since I had no ice cream yesterday and any present action regarding ice cream would merely reveal a *present* preference for it, not a past one. However I still have introspective knowledge of my ice cream preference from *yesterday*. Similarly I can’t ever reveal my preferences for products other than the market price, but by introspection I can know them. In exactly the same way as this, I can know some cases in which I’m indifferent. I know I don’t really care about the colours of clothes, I pick one, I know for certain that I would have picked the other if the prices were not equal. The behaviourist type person might deny the reality of this and my mental states, but clearly that’s not the route Mises and Rothbard would want to take. Instead they use hypothetical preferences in other contexts. The interaction of supply and demand let us observe a single point - the equilibrium price and quantity - but nevertheless Rothbard draws demand curves showing the quantity desired at all possible prices. Similarly you can only *observe* that you chose a green jumper, but that doesn’t rule out the possibility that I was indifferent between the green one and the blue one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496440737 128207364,128221692,2017-06-02 21:59:27,Grow up faggots,,Anonymous,Libertarians.png,XVCEBF2yaxcQBy+upkcKTA==,US,,1496440767 128207364,128221821,2017-06-02 22:00:37,">>128221521 >>128221556 >>128221577 >>128221609 >>128221640 >>128221692 Retarded Keynesian ""economist"" detected.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496440837 128207364,128222148,2017-06-02 22:03:42,">>128221821 Reminder Keynesian Economics have actually been used and have brought nations from poverty to extreme prosperity. Grow up and listen to a paul krugman lecture you retard",,Anonymous,keynesian Economics.jpg,E/LwtrwJPXKILKtaw4/Ilw==,US,,1496441022 128207364,128222408,2017-06-02 22:06:05,">>128222148 Keynesian economics is doomed to failure and always has been. No fiat currency has ever succeeded, they have all gone to zero. Every last one of them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496441165 128207364,128222448,2017-06-02 22:06:31,"I've gotten back into contact with a right-libertarian, whose even more right and more libertarian than I. It's been refreshin, considering all my friends are either paleocons or center-libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496441191 128207364,128222593,2017-06-02 22:07:49,">>128222148 Listen to the Contrakrugman show.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496441269 128207364,128222968,2017-06-02 22:11:35,">>128221821 Also Caplan has been responded to https://mises.org/blog/caplan-and-responses",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496441495 128270403,128270403,2017-06-03 08:59:22,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,IMG_3753.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1496480362 128270403,128270516,2017-06-03 09:01:09,"Post all your libertarian memes, and information here!",,Anonymous,IMG_3763.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1496480469 128270403,128270874,2017-06-03 09:05:50,,,Anonymous,IMG_3756.jpg,bD3IdflwHgEpU1vuRZNChQ==,US,,1496480750 128299441,128299441,2017-06-03 14:16:46,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_ron_paul.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,GB,,1496499406 128299441,128299635,2017-06-03 14:18:33,https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ZkJzyOojLZGv?q=OTTAWA,,Anonymous,7Yhu788IooI.png,m+48rIIzx/ZyJNDZ7V9r6g==,US,,1496499513 128299441,128300566,2017-06-03 14:27:33,,,Anonymous,IMG_0473.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1496500053 128299441,128300733,2017-06-03 14:29:08,"Oh look, another cringeworthy lolbertardians try to fit in thread. Sage goes in all fields.",,Sage,Alain de Benoist.jpg,XTYoKYLbgPU+ubbnF+CGgw==,GB,,1496500148 128299441,128300918,2017-06-03 14:30:54,>>128300733,,Anonymous,freedom_is_degenerate.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,GB,,1496500254 128299441,128301182,2017-06-03 14:33:33,">>128300733 T. Filthy gommie, I can't wait till your asshole globalist bitch of a queen gets moderately beheaded on international television by the religion of peace.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496500413 128299441,128301399,2017-06-03 14:35:38,I've been wondering how Libertarians view cryptocurrency. Any of you given it thought?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496500538 128299441,128301554,2017-06-03 14:37:08,You forgot to add Jordan Peterson to approved peoples,,Anonymous,1495509511653.png,Ghve0bvaKMfjilKL0NOqlQ==,CA,,1496500628 128299441,128301785,2017-06-03 14:39:26,">>128300733 de Benoist sucks muslims cock and is unironnically a third worldist Guillaume Faye all the way",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496500766 128299441,128302105,2017-06-03 14:42:21,"alt-right libertarianism isn't even libertarianism and is probably the only reason it makes any sense. As of right now, I consider myself a libertarian but the more I learn about it the less it seems realistic. The only way it could ever work is with a high IQ average, which is non-existent in any established countries. Help me, am I just a racist conservative? BUT I DONT WANNA >wtf am i?",,Anonymous,12832340_596191047214157_3094437128701624298_n.jpg,TQnGf9aPjfz+F+VIwHxKEw==,CA,,1496500941 128299441,128302450,2017-06-03 14:45:54,">>128302105 Look into hoppean libertarianism.",,Anonymous,new_class_of_permanent_degenerates.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,GB,,1496501154 128299441,128302490,2017-06-03 14:46:22,Your political economy is not even coherent beyond advocating for a return to neo-feudalism. A place like Congo implemented this by accident and now it's people are subject to the whims of drugged-up child soldiers enacting campaigns of rape and pillage for the satisfaction whatever warlord can pay them that week.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496501182 128299441,128302831,2017-06-03 14:49:57,">>128301399 Bump. Don't tell me you aren't even invested in the biggest anarcho-capitalist market right now. How would you deal with the increasing amount of ICO scams caused by an increase of new investors that don't understand the technology or market?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496501397 128299441,128303160,2017-06-03 14:53:23,">>128302105 Its simple, you kick out the unintelligent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496501603 128299441,128303304,2017-06-03 14:55:00,">>128300733 National (((Socialism)))",,Anonymous,1495585819822.png,3x7WqYvDb28OSgDA4XxLgg==,IE,,1496501700 128299441,128303578,2017-06-03 14:57:39,">Introduction to Anarchism https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf >The Anarchist FAQ http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA >Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism? http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF >Anarcho-'Capitalism' is impossible. https://c4ss.org/content/4043 >What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen >The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread >Markets not capitalism http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf",,Anonymous,1387235738389.jpg,yQzKtNYq8O3jZlZitErT4A==,GB,,1496501859 128299441,128304704,2017-06-03 15:09:36,">>128302105 Libertarianism also requires open borders or it's not libertarian. Open borders =/= high iq population as you know. Welcome to disgruntled and reluctant statism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496502576 128299441,128305474,2017-06-03 15:17:02,">>128304704 Open borders what? My borders? Fuck no. If there's no welfare state then how and any nignogs that come here supposed to compete for jobs with the natives when they have lower IQ, aren't part of the culture maybe don't speak the language etc. Unless they have money to rent a place to stay when they get here they'll be homeless too. If they don't make it they'll just have to go back or starve on the street",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496503022 128466832,128466832,2017-06-04 14:34:00,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - MI GENERAL EDITION,Anonymous,pol ron paul logo.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,SK,,1496586840 128466832,128466975,2017-06-04 14:34:54,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,compass all.jpg,fGLnxMuqb5rwiyi5yv8Vkg==,SK,,1496586894 128466832,128467059,2017-06-04 14:35:25,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1496586925 128466832,128467122,2017-06-04 14:35:46,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,hippity hoppity get off my property.jpg,B7dUzmLWkuGISCelso1NPA==,SK,,1496586946 128466832,128467434,2017-06-04 14:37:42,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,SK,,1496587062 128466832,128467527,2017-06-04 14:38:17,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI",,Anonymous,hoppe physical removalwave.jpg,FfZoTw/twNq8pqWl6cB2bQ==,SK,,1496587097 128466832,128467595,2017-06-04 14:38:46,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,hoppe commies covenant.jpg,ckKjaFAUScKcuxT33B/0Hg==,SK,,1496587126 128466832,128468432,2017-06-04 14:44:07,"low energy wow just wow",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496587447 128597593,128597593,2017-06-05 11:21:00,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - ALL Y'ALL NIGGERS SLEEP EDITION,Anonymous,libertypol.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,SK,,1496661660 128597593,128598447,2017-06-05 11:28:32,"Wassap Slovakia, FF here.",,Anonymous,Paleo.jpg,iHtyzVPc9hgZ76ZY76NIdw==,US,,1496662112 128597593,128598505,2017-06-05 11:29:00,,,Anonymous,OpenBorders2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1496662140 128597593,128598596,2017-06-05 11:29:55,,,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1496662195 128597593,128598983,2017-06-05 11:33:05,,,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1496662385 128597593,128599715,2017-06-05 11:39:54,">>128598596 I was wondering if I should do a ""family"" thing where I make a logo etc for my family (Like a family emblem) Also have a uniform that my children will wear whenever I'd like them too. (like a social even that the family will be participating in) It'd be a way to have the children grow closer and something to represent the family... Thoughts?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496662794 128597593,128599807,2017-06-05 11:40:42,fuck roads,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496662842 128597593,128600204,2017-06-05 11:44:13,">>128599715 I myself have a family crest, it's up to me to pursue the family goals. Me and brothers are making sure the family stays together and has the right values. I don't know about uniforms tho. Not really my thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496663053 128597593,128600361,2017-06-05 11:45:27,">>128599715 Create a family legacy and represent it well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496663127 128597593,128600591,2017-06-05 11:47:42,">>128597593 >>128597593 >>128597593 Guys when Kansas cut taxes, why did it fuck their economy?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496663262 128597593,128600712,2017-06-05 11:48:47,">>128600204 I don't think my family has a crest so that's why I'd like to adopt one when I have a family. I think it'd also make a statement in a way, when everyone in the family is dressed the same(Shows unity, order, discipline). >>128600361 Yes. That is what I want to achieve. Are there any books that are a guide to raising a family properly? I haven't found one yet and would like to know more so I can do it correctly the first time. (I do understand the basics though, I just would like to have more info on hand.)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496663327 128597593,128600725,2017-06-05 11:48:54,">>128600591 Be more specific about what went down, could you point me to some information?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496663334 128597593,128600928,2017-06-05 11:50:46,">>128600725 http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-kansas-sam-brownback-tax-cuts-20170321-story.html These tax cuts, getting rid of income tax on small businesses.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496663446 128597593,128600977,2017-06-05 11:51:13,">>128600725 >>128600928 and cutting the top rate of income.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496663473 128597593,128601296,2017-06-05 11:54:03,">>128600712 Can't point you to any books, my families legacy comes from within us. We fight an eternal war, it's our destiny to crusade against the world. This family comes first. We might as well be commies or national socialists in this sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496663643 128597593,128601456,2017-06-05 11:55:25,">>128597593 >Royal libertarians",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1496663725 128597593,128601737,2017-06-05 11:57:57,">>128600928 Just barely skimmed through it, seems like they lowered taxes by a bit at the same time shit got fucked up. Doesn't really talk about the cause of the economic failure, I can't really comment sorry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496663877 128597593,128601843,2017-06-05 11:58:59,">>128601737 nay bother.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496663939 128597593,128602099,2017-06-05 12:01:09,">>128600977 What do you make of Labors land tax scheme aka the ""garden tax""? When was the last time you saw a dentist?",,Anonymous,willy.jpg,f5IEpTYdzB/nJ7KEauYaCQ==,US,,1496664069 128597593,128602321,2017-06-05 12:03:05,">>128602099 Saw a dentist last month and I fucking hate pretty much all of labours tax policies. Btw i'm not a libertarian I just wanted to know your thoughts on the kansas tax system as someone I knew at uni was banging on about it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496664185 128597593,128602438,2017-06-05 12:04:07,">>128601456 >WE WUZ ROYAL LIBERTARIANS N SHIET Seriously, fuck off. This is a thread dedicated to RIGHT wing libertarianism, not leftist garbage, which includes geofaggotry",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496664247 128597593,128602701,2017-06-05 12:06:39,">>128601456 I like the Royal libertarian meme. Sounds pretty cool. Btw, left-Libertarians and shit libs like you are cancer, not even ""useful"" idiots. Just irrelevant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496664399 128597593,128602816,2017-06-05 12:07:33,">>128601456 >geofags haha no thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496664453 128597593,128602836,2017-06-05 12:07:45,>taxation is the-,,Anonymous,tmp_12497-Screenshot_20170602-2222571683403022.jpg,e2S/E40brIi7bSPpryEe2A==,US,,1496664465 128597593,128602853,2017-06-05 12:07:55,">current year >not being communist enjoy your dystopia",,Anonymous,TREADING.jpg,Pph4f4JCg5Q5UG61XoNdQA==,NO,,1496664475 128597593,128603039,2017-06-05 12:09:33,">>128602836 >its insulting >therefore its wrong spoken like a true libshit",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496664573 128597593,128603053,2017-06-05 12:09:43,>Antifa area bad peo-,,Anonymous,tmp_12497-FB_IMG_14966681608611882520175.jpg,4Oo/XGoQOwOERV18TX2Bnw==,US,,1496664583 128597593,128603159,2017-06-05 12:10:40,">>128602438 >>128602701 >>128602816 >durr sneak memes and muh NAP sick arguments! Admit it your just ITT because you like the color scheme; do you even know what property rights are or what they imply?",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1496664640 128597593,128603278,2017-06-05 12:11:44,">>128602836 If a guy breaks down in your house but use the money to heal her daughter,would You consider this theft a good thing ? If You say yes you're retarded If You say no you're a hypocrite",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496664704 128597593,128603452,2017-06-05 12:13:15,">>128603159 We go through this with you almost everyday. It's not useful to argue with you anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496664795 128597593,128603485,2017-06-05 12:13:37,"how long has this daily been going on? this my shit greetings from the UK, all",,Anonymous,18157868_1442995429098825_3987154975864593492_n.jpg,lb9lnNLkcBkFM3EzwlJK2g==,GB,,1496664817 128597593,128603502,2017-06-05 12:13:48,">>128603053 >selling ice cream >to fight capitalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496664828 128597593,128603589,2017-06-05 12:14:44,">>128603053 >selling >to fight capitalism",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1496664884 128597593,128603608,2017-06-05 12:14:54,">>128603159 I said it once and I'll say it again. This is a thread dedicated to RIGHT WING libertarianism. Geofaggotry is a leftist ideology you prick, so go fuck yourself. Every single time I come to /lrg/ I see your bullshit and it's tiring. Get lost",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496664894 128597593,128603746,2017-06-05 12:16:05,">>128603452 feel free to refute; >Georgeism reconciles common land rights with private tenure, free markets and modern capitalism. >Those who got the upper hand by securing land tenures would support public services, so wages and commerce and capital formation could go untaxed. > To pay the taxes, landowners would have to use the land by hiring workers (or selling to owner-operators and owner-residents). This would raise demand for labor; labor, through consumption, would raise demand for final products. >To pay the workers, landowners would have to produce and sell goods, hereby raising supply and precluding inflation. Needed capital would come to their aid by virtue of its being untaxed. Thus, George would cut the Gordian knot of modern dilemma-bound economics by raising demand, raising supply, raising incentives, improving equity, freeing up the market, supporting government, fostering capital formation, and paying public debts, all in one simple stroke. >George's proposal enables us to lower taxes on labor with out raising taxes on capital. Indeed, it lets us lower taxes on both labor and capital at once, and without reducing public revenues. > Georgist tax policy reconciles equity and efficiency. Taxing land is progressive because the ownership of land is so highly concentrated among the most wealthy,'8 and because the tax may not be shifted. It is efficient because it is neutral among rival land-use options: the tax is fixed, regardless of land use. This is one favourable point on which many modern economists actually agree, although they keep struggling against it >George showed that a tax can be progressive and pro-incentive at the same time. Think of it! An army o fneo-classicalists preach dourly that we must sacrifice equity and social justice on the altar of ""efficiency"". They need that thought to stifle the demand for social justice that runs like a thread through The Bible, The Koran and other great religious works.",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1496664965 128597593,128603784,2017-06-05 12:16:29,">>128602836 i ain't paying for jamal's health care and niglets you nigger enabler >>128603159 >what property rights are or what they imply? they imply freedom and real private property instead of >MUH LAND ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY FOR LAND OMG WE'RE EXPLOITED :(((((( also the geofag color scheme is literally shit-tier",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496664989 128597593,128603846,2017-06-05 12:17:01,"the Libertarian party in the UK is fielding four candidates for the General Election Will Taylor, the Hull candidate, has been speaking of the masses of support he's been seeing on doorsteps I really do think there is a chance in the UK in 5-20 years time of a strong Libertarian representation in parliament, possibly even a county under a Libertarian council we can hope. interesting developments.",,Anonymous,18268568_10154600005997358_2931799526489470374_n.jpg,gwuWivJVfVlkxMyyoW+6Bg==,GB,,1496665021 128597593,128603920,2017-06-05 12:17:42,">>128603784 >left wing",,Anonymous,adamsmithisageoist.jpg,JUWppajMdiB5mV3ofkxBVg==,US,,1496665062 128597593,128604079,2017-06-05 12:19:00,">>128603784 >comunism Thomas Jefferson: [Feel free to skip the first four paragraphs, which are undoubtedly due to Marx’s influence on Jefferson. I particularly would like to hear your analysis of the last and longest quote.] “I set out on this ground, which I suppose to be self-evident, that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living; that the dead have neither powers nor rights over it. The portion occupied by any individual ceases to be his when he ceases to be, and reverts to the society…” “Whenever there are in any country uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. “In Europe the lands [that are not] cultivated are locked up against the cultivator. …This begets dependence, subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue and prepares fit tools for the design of ambition. “I think our governments will remain virtuous..as long as there are vacant lands [available] in any part of America. When [Americans] get piled up on each other in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt, as in Europe.” “That the lands within the limits assumed by a nation belong to the nation as a body has probably been the law of every people on earth at some period of their history. A right of property in movable things is admitted before the establishment of government. A separate property in lands not till after that establishment. The right to moveables is acknowledged by all the hordes of Indians surrounding us. Yet by no one of them has a separate property in lands been yeilded for individuals. He who plants a field keeps possession till he has gathered the produce, after which one has as good a right as another to occupy it. Government must be established and laws provided, before lands can be separately appropriated and their owner protected in his possession. Till then the property is in the body of the nation.”",,Anonymous,tj.jpg,iRwX2q2H1PS6JJv9cVQYvw==,US,,1496665140 128597593,128604270,2017-06-05 12:20:38,"What's up Slovakiabro and Ameribro. How are my fellow NRx-tier, gun-loving, commie-destroyer, fag-crusher, Hoppe-quoting right-wing libertarians doing?",,Anonymous,ancap squad.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,PT,,1496665238 128597593,128604287,2017-06-05 12:20:49,">>128603746 >public services >taxes >progressive >An army o fneo-classicalists >social justice literally modern liberalism holy shit kill yourself my man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496665249 128597593,128604459,2017-06-05 12:22:27,">>128604270 A bit bored",,Anonymous,image.jpg,IDRJhnUawKOpSHugTaloFw==,FR,,1496665347 128597593,128604468,2017-06-05 12:22:35,">>128604270 things are going well in uk uk libertarians have highest party membership statistics ever",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496665355 128597593,128604521,2017-06-05 12:22:58,">>128604079 >implying we give a shit about what Jefferson has to say about it go fuck yourself you stupid retard nigger. We don't want your leftist garbage here",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496665378 128597593,128604675,2017-06-05 12:24:14,">>128603920 >tax >government >""""""""reasonable"""""""" fuck off >>128604079 >Government must be established >the property is in the body of the nation. how about no",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496665454 128597593,128604705,2017-06-05 12:24:26,">>128604459 Based French de Lesquen bro is here too! >>128604468 Good luck to y'all in the elections. Very disappointed with May trying to (((regulate))) the internet to fight ""extremists."" We all know they're just going to shut down right wing websites.",,Anonymous,you talkin to me.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,PT,,1496665466 128597593,128604792,2017-06-05 12:25:05,">>128604287 We call ourselves the ""party of principle,"" and we base property rights on the principle that everyone is entitled to the fruits of his labor. Land, however, is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and our system of land tenure is based not on labor, but on decrees of privilege issued from the state, called titles. In fact, the term ""real estate"" is Middle English (originally French) for ""royal state."" The ""title"" to land is the essence of the title of nobility, and the root of noble privilege. >We are libertarians who make the classical liberal distinction between land, labor and capital. We believe in the private possession of land without interference from the state, but in the community collection of land rent to prevent monopolization of land. >We believe that all government activities should at least be limited to those which increase the value of land by more than what the government collects, and that government should be funded entirely from the land value increases it creates. >We oppose direct state monopolization of land as well as state-sanctioned private monopolization of land, and advocate that state and federally held land pay land rent to the communities the same as private land. >We advocate that government be allowed to spend only what is authorized by voter referendum or similar device and that it take for itself the minimum it is authorized to spend. Those who advocate collection of the full rent stipulate that the proceeds be divided among community members on a per-capita or similar basis, for the land, and the rent, belong to the people, not the state. >We condemn the taxation of property improvements, and of all activities, productive, consumptive, or recreational, as invasions by the state into the private affairs of free individuals. Do you even know what liberalism is?",,Anonymous,ny-state-single-tax-league-sign-undated.jpg,VnxpX5ckK+3OQ+09PEeTFA==,US,,1496665505 128597593,128605051,2017-06-05 12:27:07,">>128603053 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Capitalism wins again Lefty faggots!",,Anonymous,1494796696529.jpg,zV+w8Cfu6Kto8kn4H/pQ4w==,US,,1496665627 128597593,128605471,2017-06-05 12:30:20,">>128604792 >Do you even know what liberalism is? Do you? nigger you keep copypasting inconsistent bullshit that can't keep your story straight. You are for tax, government, and public services as quoted. We all know what those eventually evolve into as they naturally degenerate as shitty system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496665820 128597593,128605617,2017-06-05 12:31:33,">>128603053 this one will always be favorite",,Anonymous,1495310274248.jpg,+lEpUm21JJr15EI0WAv0hw==,US,,1496665893 128597593,128606465,2017-06-05 12:38:29,">>128604270 Things are going well. Representing the crew just right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496666309 128597593,128606642,2017-06-05 12:39:47,"book club discord /VRmt3h",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-no-crime-to-be-ignorant-of-economics-which-is-after-all-a-specialized-discipline-and-one-murray-rothbard-263126.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,US,,1496666387 128597593,128606673,2017-06-05 12:40:03,">>128604270 preddy gud think we're gonna see the rise of a new Pinochet in our lifetime lads? >hates commies >declaring martial law because he's pissed >now with helicopters it's only a matter of time",,Anonymous,1496678258292.png,ATYHsjGVuKWybM0m7n829A==,US,,1496666403 128597593,128606835,2017-06-05 12:41:17,">>128606642 give us the link",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496666477 128597593,128606976,2017-06-05 12:42:26,">>128605617 for what its worth, Marxists acknowledged that the only way for their ideology to truly succeed was through worldwide revolution. if you still have a lot of people following capitalist protocol, it means you have to play their game on some level in order to cooperate with them. the people who have that momument still have to pay taxes and rent like other people in a capitalist society. so to say that they should magically not have to do that, and then laugh at them when they do and claim that it highlights the failure of their beliefs is kind of silly.",,Anonymous,1492130094238.jpg,oficT30NDge2S2cfoYhW8Q==,US,,1496666546 128597593,128607471,2017-06-05 12:46:07,">>128606976 Propaganda warfare is never based in truth. Even if for a true cause. Commies are scum for their beliefs, not because they sell ice cream. It's just a good laugh at them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496666767 128597593,128607527,2017-06-05 12:46:39,">>128606976 Why would the marxist dialectic end at communism ? It isn't the bible where there is an end If the world right ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496666799 128597593,128607562,2017-06-05 12:46:58,">>128603746 His great grandfather didn't just ""put up a fence"" around 60 acres, you fucking imbecile. You are paying a monetary value to compensate for the fact that a blood price was paid for that land. A price of conquest. Indian savages had to be killed and forcibly removed, and then the land had to be defended. It did not come free. When you grow the balls to go take some land for yourself, then you can charge rent for it, too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496666818 128597593,128607866,2017-06-05 12:49:33,>>128606976,,Anonymous,A8860825.png,FfCR4o1eHqrzKwd8rDRchw==,GB,,1496666973 128597593,128607888,2017-06-05 12:49:44,">>128607471 >propaganda warfare is never based in truth >commies are scum for their beliefs let me guess, its not propaganda is you do it eh mcarthy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496666984 128597593,128607963,2017-06-05 12:50:19,Is this the most definite list of the most libertarian US presidents?,,Anonymous,46884910bd5ddad1083476560b45b0cefd85a.jpg,Y2BjCspaVcAl8joAZ4IMoQ==,PL,,1496667019 128597593,128607971,2017-06-05 12:50:22,">>128607866 I really, really like this image.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496667022 128597593,128608192,2017-06-05 12:52:10,">>128607888 No I am a propagandist, in open about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496667130 128597593,128608216,2017-06-05 12:52:20,">>128606976 in what way is scale relevant? if you idea actually works, it works regardless of outside forces. You're not seeing the picture for what it was: there was NO way to maintain that statue without capital. Could they have appointed someone locally to at least keep it clean every once in a while for greater good of party out of goodness of their heart and love for proletariat class? No. They needed to PAY someone to get something done. Either that, or force someone against their will with force to maintain that statue, which is fucking slavery. If the entire world was communist, it still would not be enough because when do you draw the arbitrary line of when communism works? at X population? at X amount of countries? You had Soviet Russia (Eastern Europe) and Africa. In fact, you still have Cuba, South America, and fucking China. But all those countries and their massive population just weren't real communism enough, weren't they? Pathetic. it's ridiculous to think that scale has anything to do with it. Capitalism works the same way between you and your neighbors locally, and internationally between countries. Your system either works or it doesn't. I'm justified in laughing because your system is just the pinnacle of failure time and time again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496667140 128597593,128608246,2017-06-05 12:52:36,">>128607963 >no ""the man who killed the bank""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496667156 128597593,128608489,2017-06-05 12:54:28,">>128607963 definitely needs more Andrew Jackson, arguably Thomas Jefferson fine selection of top lads though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496667268 128597593,128608509,2017-06-05 12:54:36,">>128607527 I didn't say it does, I pointed out that the Marxists knew that their ideology was not sustainable as long as they had to play by another ideology's rules. Hence, the need for worldwide revolution. Check out some Trotsky to get a better understanding. The need for worldwide revolution is a goal, its a self criticism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496667276 128597593,128608696,2017-06-05 12:56:00,">>128608489 >Andrew Jackson Massive federalist >Thomas Jefferson Georgist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496667360 128597593,128608739,2017-06-05 12:56:22,">>128608509 I referenced your idea as a whole and the picture You posted You won't end the master/slave dialectic just hy abolishing private property",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496667382 128597593,128608953,2017-06-05 12:58:05,">>128608696 >massive federalist >abolished the national bank...twice He would be Pinochet-tier by our standarts",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496667485 128597593,128609159,2017-06-05 12:59:44,">>128608696 b-but Andrew's muh banks and yeah Jefferson had Georgist influence economically but they were still important towards keeping a limited government. Presidents at their best can be minarchists, you naturally you just can't expect ancaps out of them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496667584 128597593,128609261,2017-06-05 13:00:28,">>128608489 Jackson is debatable for me just like Jefferson. Both had healthy views about economy but turned out to be quite hypocritical when they became presidents. Jefferson with the embargo and Jackson with the spoils and indian removal (and I'm talking about 5 civilized tribes here). But I'm not someone who hates on historical figures just because they did something wrong because it's impossible to find a president who didn't send troops somewhere or didn't do something unconstitutional. But if we add them then James Monroe belongs to the list as well.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1496667628 128597593,128609428,2017-06-05 13:01:46,">>128608216 >there was no way to maintain the statue without capitalism >they needed to PAY someone to get it done you answered your own question. why could they not ""appoint"" someone? because nobody was willing to cooperate. the people who were able to maintain the statue demanded capitalistic compensation for their work, because they are capitalists. Then you move into the ""real communism"" agreement. Never mind that all of these countries have had to deal with constant conflict with the capitalist world. Soviet Russia and Eastern Europe were under constant economic threat from the USA, and Africa has had their mineral rights speculated on since before they had a standing government of any kind. Cuba had a worldwide embargo until recently, South America is undermined by the USA fueling their illegal drug trade, and China has a weird form of communism that is pretty odd by any standard. To say that ""your system either works or it doesn't"" is pretty childish. What about all the people failed by capitalism? There are a lot of third world countries I can point to that have a capitalist society but are still shitholes. Can I claim that they are shitholes because of capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496667706 128597593,128609551,2017-06-05 13:02:46,">>128608953 Jackson, the man who said: >""John Calhoun, if you secede from my nation, I will secede your head from the rest of your body. Hmmm yes, very pro individual rights, very libertarian!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496667766 128597593,128609554,2017-06-05 13:02:47,">>128609261 And I need to finally read this book. Recarving Rushmore and Politically Incorrect Guide to US Presidents (I know I know but this one is actually good) are the only non-standard non-leftist etc books about presidents I know. I always check on FDR and the Great Depression to see if a book is good or not. It's my litmus test.",,Anonymous,"51WfUaTwi0L._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",DytWfB/rMhz62y/gfD+0ow==,PL,,1496667767 128597593,128609952,2017-06-05 13:05:44,">>128609551 As I said retarded bong with No reading comprehension who tries to be ironic because when he gets serious his rotten teeth make him bleed He is pinochet-tier,freed the economy but acted as a tyrant",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496667944 128597593,128610390,2017-06-05 13:09:10,">>128603746 >that pic >a state, an intangible power structure, declaring half of an entire continent as their belonging is the same as a farmer homesteading and passing his property to his children >people owning land can just own more and more and will still be renting after 3 generations pic related, what happens when autistic people like you run a country.",,Anonymous,muhlandequality.png,1RU0xyxjIIT9Ln8+EhOXPw==,BR,,1496668150 128597593,128610819,2017-06-05 13:12:40,">>128609261 James Monroe is pretty cool, yeah the Era of Good Feels must have been a great time to be an American >>128609428 >why could they not ""appoint"" someone? because nobody was willing to cooperate. >if I can't swindle people into doing free shit, it must be THEIR fault not mine! and you're calling me childish? this is the kind of entitlement mentality that composes a lot of liberals and communists. It's always them, not me. Absolutely childish to the core. >Never mind that all of these countries have had to deal with constant conflict with the capitalist world. if they were so good, then the system would account for that and they would of continued to succeed indefinitely. Stop blaming other people and start blaming yourself to actually fucking improve >What about all the people failed by capitalism? There are a lot of third world countries I can point to that have a capitalist society but are still shitholes. Can I claim that they are shitholes because of capitalism? You absolutely can, because unlike Marxists, at least Capitalists take full responsibility than others. Some people are better capitalists than others, and so you can't expect niggers and shitskins to perform as well as superior people. Capitalism accounts for that, and takes advantage of that. The few capitalistic individuals with actual ambition can succeed without having hordes of his fellow niggers bring him down in a limited government. The countries where capitalism has failed? filled to the brim with niggers, shitskins, and commies as well. But that does not stop capitalism. The only thing that stops capitalism, is a restrictive government that keeps it from reaching its full potential. It still stands on its own >>128609554 >I always check on FDR and the Great Depression to see if a book is good or not. It's my litmus test. this is a good technique. I should try this myself, it sounds effective. FDR shilling is one hell of a drug",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496668360 128597593,128611141,2017-06-05 13:15:23,">>128610390 so a family owns property, doesn't use the property, and the community then reclaims the property? I know it might have sucked for the family, but did it suck for the community that cannibalized the unused property? the concept being proposed is to break the back of land monopoly. both private and state. people are entitled to the fruits of their labor, nothing more. speculation is the root of all evil.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496668523 128597593,128611662,2017-06-05 13:19:57,">>128611141 You ar a marxist shithead with no concept of right and wrong. To you, a completely broken real state market and systematic looting might actually be a good thing, because some hedonistic fucks got to loot a house. There's no arguing with a demented parasite like you, you'll just convince yourself any form of destruction and harm might actually be good; just get into the helicopter and convince yourself how getting thrown out of it at 500 meters above ground might actually be a good thing for society, accept your fate.",,Anonymous,freehelicopterrides.jpg,kU46LP1X1cgkk/kqemWqCg==,BR,,1496668797 128597593,128611684,2017-06-05 13:20:05,"How's this for a libertarian future, purple quadrant bros? >2020s/30s >USA economy is on its last legs >Everywhere else, the collapse has already set in >Europe has turned into a dystopian, West Bank-like hellhole riddled with concrete walls and pillboxes >The Asian tiger economies have stalled and are threatening a sharp decline >Africa and South America don't even bear speaking about >A savior arises in America! >Goes full John Galt with autistic radio speeches >Leads Texas, Arizona, and a few other red states in Civil War II: No Step Edition >Most of the military immediately defects to the rebels >Federal government is defeated in under 6 months, Washington DC in its entirety is turned into glowing trinitite >Seventeen new constitutional amendments to guarantee property, abolish conscription, BTFO regulation, etc. >Massive heap of repealed legislation is piled up at the feet of the Statue of Liberty and burned to 3 solid days of fireworks and the sounds of recreational gunshots >(((democracy))) abolished, the USA has grown out of its republican stage and is now an Empire >The new Caesar declares a new policy >'In accordance with the new fundamental principles incorporated into our Constitution...' >'All property of US citizens, wherever they may be, is now under the protection of the US Government.' >'If we're going to be a monopolistic providers of rights-protection, we're gonna fucking do it properly' >All US corporations in foreign countries stop paying taxes and flat out ignore local legislation >Foreign governments are too shell-shocked to do anything about it >One week later, Sweden tries to nationalize a local Exxon branch in order to pay for their latest 'free sex transitions for every Congolese migrant' initiative >Marines have the Prime Minister at gunpoint within four hours >Nobody ever tries it again >mfw every other country is forced to liberalize their economies to compete, or face total US economic annexation >mfw anarcho-imperialism",,Anonymous,violence.jpg,JUTSoSZ/p2OaO6bgvpOANw==,ZA,,1496668805 128597593,128611752,2017-06-05 13:20:38,"Do some stickers, it's good this",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1496668838 128597593,128611883,2017-06-05 13:21:41,"I'm the anon who said he'd give making an Ancap-themed youtube channel a try. I made a video about why universal voting is bad: https://youtu.be/mLK697E5gFk I know it's shit, but any feedback is welcome.",,Anonymous,ancap flag.png,62QyIWBLETqLeMTTGhDPlQ==,CA,,1496668901 128597593,128612043,2017-06-05 13:23:01,">>128610819 >if I cant swindle people into doing free shit, it must be THEIR fault not mine! I never implied this. not once. my point was, because they live in a society that functions around people being PAID for their work, YOU cannot expect them to just not pay those people. which is what you did in your second post. you claimed that they should just appoint someone, and because they didn't it means that their system is a failure. >never mind that all these countries..... >if they were so good I never argued that they were so good, I pointed out that their failure was part of a much larger picture. the capitalist world did not sit idly by while these nations tried to function, so to say their ultimate failure had nothing to do with globalist intervention is ignorant. >shitskins, etc thank you for moving out from behind your smokescreen. until this point, I thought your opinions were based around your own understanding of economics. but in truth, your opinions are grounded in scapegoating. anytime you succeed? its because I'm the best. anytime you fail? its because of group X.",,Anonymous,1496185068018.png,HxJYSSfYOfIbuKdhMDyzig==,US,,1496668981 128597593,128612593,2017-06-05 13:27:36,">>128611883 I like it, I'll get you some traffic if I can.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496669256 128597593,128612732,2017-06-05 13:28:47,">>128611662 and you are a mudskin banana cooker who likes to rant on /pol/ while your whole country circles the drain. >MUH MARXIST RUINING MUH COUNTRY are you sure its not your inability to contribute to your GDP in a meaningful way? HUEHUEHUE GIB MONY PLS BRLBRL",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496669327 128597593,128612938,2017-06-05 13:30:34,">>128612732 Notice how me, caring about the land laws of my country, in the mind of a demented marxist becomes: >likes to rant on /pol/ while your whole country circles the drain. While you defend the real state destruction of my country. No cure for marxist dementia but helicopter rides.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496669434 128597593,128613124,2017-06-05 13:32:05,">>128612732 >MUH MARXIST RUINING MUH COUNTRY >HUEHUEHUE GIB MONY PLS BRLBRL How to contradict yourself in one autistic screeching",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496669525 128597593,128613255,2017-06-05 13:33:21,Who /problemchild/ here?,,Anonymous,potp_c_small.png,LOgVA1LeX/VnR5YKI3U2tA==,US,,1496669601 128597593,128613345,2017-06-05 13:34:13,">>128612043 >YOU cannot expect them to just not pay those people. which is what you did in your second post. >hurr what is voluntary charity work get fucking real, commie kike >you claimed that they should just appoint someone, and because they didn't it means that their system is a failure. That's exactly it was a failure! It's completely and entirely possible for people to do things voluntarily out of their goodwill. Charity, do you know of the concept? It doesn't matter what society they lived in, people can work for nothing if they give a shit about it. Evidently nobody gave enough shits. The system is a failure because some people are failures, and write shitty failure systems where they want all the fruits of labor without actually working. You cannot deny. >their failure was part of a much larger picture. the capitalist world did not sit idly by while these nations tried to function, so to say their ultimate failure had nothing to do with globalist intervention is ignorant. >my shitty system is failing, it's THEIR fault, not mine! WAAAAAAAHHHHH do you have any sense of self-awareness? I'm not denying that other nations got involved as well, but that's no EXCUSE, which is what commies and liberals are so fond of. >my system only works if I'm left alone! >ok then do it in your private and personal life, try to organize a group to look after Marx's goddamn statue >no fuck you I still need money, I blame the capitalist instead of myself :(((((( is exactly why commies cannot be taken seriously. No self-awareness, no responsibility, none whatsoever. >I thought your opinions were based around your own understanding of economics. They are. Some people are better than others, get over it. Get good or get the fuck out of their way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496669653 128597593,128613639,2017-06-05 13:37:01,">>128612938 I asked you a question, which you were quick to dodge. the people who scrapped the unused home created value for the community. that family was not living there, the home sat around doing nothing. >B-BUT THEY MIGHT SELL IT IN X NUMBER OF YEARS! doubt it. since this is BRL we are talking about, it was probably a cow shed anyways. And I'm pretty sure they still owned the land, so that can still be sold. ur country is fucked not because of Marxism, but because your culture is shit m8. even if there were laws protecting that cow shed from getting looted, all that would have changed is the people who did it would be branded thieves. And in brazil, a thief is just an average citizen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496669821 128597593,128613782,2017-06-05 13:38:21,">>128612043 >your opinions are grounded in scapegoating. anytime you succeed? its because I'm the best. anytime you fail? its because of group X. Nice strawman. Now you're denying race realism as well? That group X isn't statistically more likely to commit violence, crime, domestic abuse, family abandonment? That some people aren't more prone to cheating, lying, swindling? You're a joke. I freely admit that capitalism has no excuses, and that it only rewards the best of the best while pruning out the worst in society. Yet you can only interpret that as a scapegoat for yet another excuse, instead of seeing it as a chance for some people to self-improve and move up in the world compared to others who choose to leave themselves behind from their own inactivity. Communism failed, and it's because people like you exist that make it fail from just being leeches quick to blame others and arbitrary external circumstances, never themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496669901 128597593,128613817,2017-06-05 13:38:37,">>128613345 man, you are some kind of troll ill give you that. I think you are lost, desu senpai. if you want to just keep responding to someone without actually reading your own posts, go here: >>>/b/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496669917 128597593,128613972,2017-06-05 13:39:47,">>128613817 not an argument even in discussion you collapse easily",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496669987 128597593,128614018,2017-06-05 13:40:15,">>128613255 Dave seems like an interesting guy. Not exactly /lrg/ redpilled but pretty reasonable. 8/10",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496670015 128597593,128614171,2017-06-05 13:41:23,">>128598596 Be white.",,Anonymous,0PhI8VK.jpg,f+P17eKGoC5ehTiLI1wQSw==,US,,1496670083 128597593,128614190,2017-06-05 13:41:35,">>128613972 >even in discussion you collapse easily You son of a bitch I thought I would die",,Anonymous,image.jpg,NXuI4OMUlrJbKPIf457sZA==,FR,,1496670095 128597593,128614236,2017-06-05 13:41:58,">>128613972 I know its not an argument, its directions. you aren't keeping up with your own posts, so responding to you in turn isn't worth it. I cant expect you to derive meaning from what I write if you cant remember what you said in a previous post. You are just responding for the sake of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496670118 128597593,128614405,2017-06-05 13:43:16,">>128601456 This ""land""should be in one's sphere of ethnic origin, Africans do not belong in Alaska.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496670196 128597593,128614433,2017-06-05 13:43:32,">>128614018 He's been getting redpilled. He was on Radical Agenda recently and talks about voting and immigration changing demographics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496670212 128597593,128614491,2017-06-05 13:44:03,">>128613639 >Marxist majority in the legislature for over 30 years >crime goes up 300% >13 years of Marxists in presidency >no crime drop B-B-but it wasn't marxism the problem... >marxists make it ok to loot >liberals make it impossible for children who murder and rape and steal to be persecuted as adults >government disarms the population and teaches everyone that owning a gun is dangerous B-b-b-but culture is something that just magically exists, it can't be affected by politics! It was actually all the fault of you not making enough gdp. > And in brazil, a thief is just an average citizen. Yes, because of people like you, who 3 posts ago was defending legal looting of homes. Who have no definition of right and wrong and live in an abstract marxist world where theft can be rationalized and even justified.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496670243 128597593,128614606,2017-06-05 13:45:03,">>128614236 that's still not an argument are you capable of constructing logical thought or are you just going to keep cowardly running away?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496670303 128597593,128615073,2017-06-05 13:49:06,">>128614606 >or are you just going to keep cowardly running away? Maybe he is LARPing as Tortsky",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496670546 128597593,128615227,2017-06-05 13:50:26,"I'll just leave this here for the retarded Marxists, Trots and assorted cryptoCommies who are on break from their liberal arts classes, funded by loans from their detested bourgeois parents and their failed capitalist society: https://youtu.be/okHGCz6xxiw",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496670626 128597593,128615243,2017-06-05 13:50:33,">>128614433 Yeah I watched that, pretty good talk. He seems like an honest guy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496670633 128597593,128615279,2017-06-05 13:50:50,">>128615073 I'll LARP as the Ice Pick in Mexico then",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496670650 128597593,128615315,2017-06-05 13:51:11,">>128614171 Yeah that too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496670671 128597593,128615462,2017-06-05 13:52:20,">>128615073 *Trotsky",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496670740 128597593,128615470,2017-06-05 13:52:24,">>128613639 You are a marxist shithead, who probably posts on /leftypol/ about how smart Stirner is and how every selfish immoral action can be justified, and then you come here and attack the abstract and immoral culture that grew in Brazil that justifies many immoral actions for self gain. I imagine the immense levels of cognitive dissonance you must be going through.",,Anonymous,1491655427158.png,I/eng7RmDhNJ21yQiWgaDA==,BR,,1496670744 128597593,128615724,2017-06-05 13:54:46,"holy fug they actually showed up what's good senpaitachi",,Anonymous,hoppe schwag.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,SK,,1496670886 128597593,128615959,2017-06-05 13:56:54,">>128613255 He's not bad, from what I've gathered. For a Jew, that is.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496671014 128597593,128616553,2017-06-05 14:01:43,">>128615724 >hoppe: what is red and flies well? >parrot: physical removal! physical removal! physical removal! SQUAWK >good boy, you earned his cracker not wait in line for it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496671303 128597593,128616593,2017-06-05 14:02:05,">>128611684 I think it will be like that PLUS Eastern Europe curb-stomping everything from London to New Delhi.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496671325 128597593,128616617,2017-06-05 14:02:14,My journey through political views,,Anonymous,DBXZhKlUQAEH6EX.jpg-large.jpg,vUOPok1ii++MAC6Rz5c0aA==,US,,1496671334 128597593,128616934,2017-06-05 14:04:37,">>128604270 Breddy gud, mayne.",,Anonymous,hoppe costanza.png,pIgAdJvpGAMA/mdAZbYiDw==,SK,,1496671477 128597593,128617069,2017-06-05 14:05:48,">>128616617 top fucking kek, do you still have the unedited version of your pic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496671548 128597593,128617105,2017-06-05 14:06:05,">>128615724 I saw your dead thread yesterday, had to show up today.",,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1496671565 128597593,128618216,2017-06-05 14:15:11,">tfw first country on earth that will go into atomized-separatism who's laughing now :~)",,Anonymous,1495695726869.png,HKtz4CLen4dp2HJ5YBhrtw==,BR,,1496672111 128597593,128618263,2017-06-05 14:15:33,">>128611883 The script is good enough, maybe a bit too polemical, but you definitely need a better mic.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496672133 128597593,128618374,2017-06-05 14:16:30,"MUH INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS RESPECT ME I CAN DO WHAT I WANT ME ME ME ME ME",,Anonymous,Alain de Benoist.jpg,XTYoKYLbgPU+ubbnF+CGgw==,GB,,1496672190 128597593,128618548,2017-06-05 14:18:05,">>128618374 >I CAN DO WHAT I WANT as long as I don't initiate force against somebody*",,Anonymous,braz.jpg,RkhrQuZ1qGpOVdLHduzh9g==,BR,,1496672285 128597593,128618575,2017-06-05 14:18:15,">>128613255 Dave ""Big Picture"" Smith, the heart and soul of liberty. 2 episodes a week is not enough!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496672295 128597593,128618658,2017-06-05 14:18:54,"Tune in for OC niggers: https://youtu.be/JR85quKbQO4 https://youtu.be/JR85quKbQO4 https://youtu.be/JR85quKbQO4",,Anonymous,modernsorting.png,dgQKWZP+oMUhEQyTF80eTw==,BR,,1496672334 128597593,128618811,2017-06-05 14:20:13,">>128618374 That's right, Me and my family come before your state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496672413 128597593,128619066,2017-06-05 14:22:16,">>128597593 Don't forget to post the book archives when you post this thread! https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",,Anonymous,IMG_3724.jpg,GaisrXDIf07atthSxYeYCg==,US,,1496672536 128597593,128619215,2017-06-05 14:23:33,"I wish you guys could understand Portuguese.Vid related is an autistic (diagnosed) Conservative-Christian-Libertarian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qN7ILSPWYE",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496672613 128597593,128619340,2017-06-05 14:24:34,">>128618548 You can't do her, that's sure",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1496672674 128597593,128619396,2017-06-05 14:24:56,>>128619066,,Anonymous,IMG_3756.jpg,bD3IdflwHgEpU1vuRZNChQ==,US,,1496672696 128597593,128619413,2017-06-05 14:25:05,">>128619066 if all those autistic screechers got into a fight together in one room, who would win?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496672705 128597593,128619622,2017-06-05 14:26:44,">>128619340 what's up with croatians and black women?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496672804 128597593,128619879,2017-06-05 14:28:46,">>128619413 Well the redneck and the anarchsit are the only ones with weapons so they'll have the upper hand unless they lose their weapons.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496672926 128597593,128620079,2017-06-05 14:30:36,">>128604468 >make permits for sleeping licences more easily available >decriminalise teaspoons >drop the death sentence for islamophobes It must be lit.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496673036 128597593,128620345,2017-06-05 14:32:46,">>128619879 fair enough, although I suspect the leftists will just fight over redistributing the one molotov while the right will gun them down and have protection from the one helmet guy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496673166 128597593,128620376,2017-06-05 14:33:02,">>128619413 The fedora one. While the others were out partying, he studied the blade.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496673182 128597593,128620638,2017-06-05 14:35:11,">>128619622 I swear I'm the only guy I know who isn't into black girls. Not because racist sruff or anything, they just don't attract me if they're too dark. Asians on the other hand...damn. But everyone here is opposite.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1496673311 128597593,128620861,2017-06-05 14:37:16,">>128620638 are croatian women like that too? ;^)",,Anonymous,fernando.jpg,62thUhLiSsBmW5IwOW083Q==,BR,,1496673436 128597593,128620899,2017-06-05 14:37:33,">>128618374 It's in my community's interest to stick your head into a toilet bowl. Muffin personnel.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496673453 128597593,128621059,2017-06-05 14:38:54,">>128617069 I got you senpai.",,Anonymous,compass complex.jpg,4pTZ02q9THnnZ6/pbzsmNA==,SK,,1496673534 128597593,128621138,2017-06-05 14:39:40,">>128617069 Here you go.",,Anonymous,1496685734564.jpg,CtnN4SjKBsgJm3BT2/by5Q==,US,,1496673580 128597593,128621387,2017-06-05 14:41:40,">>128621059 >>128621138 thanks lads, this is why I would be more than happy to invite you guys into my covenant I'll be your co-pilot when the day of the helicopter rides comes any day",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496673700 128597593,128621489,2017-06-05 14:42:34,">tfw playing Fallout Remind me why the fuck AnCap is supposed to be a good idea? For both pre-war and post-war all I see is a shithole.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496673754 128597593,128621656,2017-06-05 14:43:56,">>128621489 Well the most prosperous faction is new vegas Wonder why :^)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496673836 128597593,128621664,2017-06-05 14:44:03,">>128621489 because fallout depicts a world where the transition from states to Archy was via nuclear war and not a paradigm shift in the people's thinking",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496673843 128597593,128621683,2017-06-05 14:44:13,"sup nerds post memes",,Anonymous,aint_free_1.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,GB,,1496673853 128597593,128621762,2017-06-05 14:44:52,">>128621664 anarchy*",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496673892 128597593,128621998,2017-06-05 14:47:00,">>128600928 What I posted in a previous occasion when someone brought the Kansas case: >Expectations of short term effects on tax policies is not intelligent. >Do you think companies will decide on a whim ""let's settle here"" without a clear compromise to maintain that tax situation? Company owners don't want to fall on a trap so in order to see the effects of lower taxes they must be sustained, CEOs should foresee that the tax situation will be kept throughout the years. >Their sustainability goes hand in hand with how much the politicians are willing to cut spending. A government like Kansas one where they're not cutting spending enough is just ""passing the bill"" to the future generation by acquisition of debt. In the future, taxes will have to be raised to pay off this debt. Compromises have been shown to shift the tax to sales tax and to cut spending, but one has to doubt how propaganda-immune people in Kansas are before they end up voting democrat and fucking up everything. >Also, it is retarded that the article is trying to measure the success of a policy of tax reduction by its ability to recollect money from taxes. >""Libertarianism fails because you don't collect enough if you lower taxes"" >Yeah no shit. >Now, explained why this is not really a libertarian tax plan, explained why short-term results are unrealistic, and explained why ability to pay pensions during the first years of tax cuts is going to be dwindled, let's look at the facts. >-Since 2013, more than 10 thousand taxpayers moved from Missouri to Kansas. 6.3% increase in immigration rate >-A jump in net income per tax return of $17,467 average >-Bordering regions such as Johnson County KS pulled a $26,701 jump, people are literally running to Kansas to spend their money >-Kansas outpaced every neighbor region in growth excepting Colorado. >-Another example of neighboring regions with quite different tax policies: Indiana vs Illinois. >Check it up.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496674020 128597593,128622055,2017-06-05 14:47:29,">>128621656 can confirm House literally did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496674049 128597593,128622088,2017-06-05 14:47:45,">>128621664 Post-war Fallout has had 200 years to adapt to AnCap thinking. I don't see society getting any better. >>128621656 ...Because they have a government?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496674065 128597593,128622201,2017-06-05 14:48:43,">>128621489 >flag jewboy if you think struggle is bad you deserve to get HAMAS'd",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496674123 128597593,128622264,2017-06-05 14:49:20,">>128622088 they're not AnCap though, just regular Anarchy. A lot of factions hardly practiced Capitalism, and were just more focused on killing each other instead of cooperation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496674160 128597593,128622482,2017-06-05 14:51:07,">>128622088 The government with the less government power Wonder why",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496674267 128597593,128622549,2017-06-05 14:51:35,">>128622088 The society has adapted to rough life. Also, New Vegasans are only there because they want to, there's a free market of protection providers (Kings, Followers, North Vegas militia, NCR, House, Legion, Powder Gangers and local militias). Don't cry about it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496674295 128597593,128622659,2017-06-05 14:52:34,">>128621683 Okay! Ron Paul as Prometheus.",,Anonymous,IMG_3799.jpg,OLcRBnTOv/oqXYpXsZDNMA==,US,,1496674354 128597593,128622686,2017-06-05 14:52:46,">>128622088 they're not AnCap it's just people trying to reestablish a government",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496674366 128597593,128622753,2017-06-05 14:53:17,>>128621683,,Anonymous,IMG_3755.png,CrgPusQ4cEdeAOXyFvBLnA==,US,,1496674397 128597593,128622933,2017-06-05 14:55:17,">>128621489 Because Fallout is a game published by ZeniMax, a jewish publishing company.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496674517 128597593,128623849,2017-06-05 15:03:15,"to anyone still in the thread i've started a discord server completely dedicated to discussion and shitposting for /lrg/ /y3BzZM",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496674995 128597593,128624467,2017-06-05 15:08:34,"I'm a minarchist. I think society should fund the police force and military. (also firefighters and ambulance) I agree taxation is theft, but without taxes, I find it hard to believe anyone would willingly pay for the police and military. I agree most public services should be privatized. But, I think emergency services and national security should be funded by everyone. Can some anons convince of the contrary; that the state should be eliminated completely?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496675314 128597593,128624503,2017-06-05 15:08:52,">>128623849 i might join you after work senpai are you able to directly contact the guy who runs the /lrg/ website? maybe the discord can be posted there for easy reference so more people can join",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496675332 128597593,128624606,2017-06-05 15:09:32,">>128624467 https://mises.org/library/impossibility-limited-government-and-prospects-second-american-revolution",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496675372 128597593,128624697,2017-06-05 15:10:15,">>128611684 I like it, don't want D.C. dead though. Nice town with some great architecture, people should go through some removing though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496675415 128597593,128624768,2017-06-05 15:10:54,">>128624467 see the united states of america at it's foundation and now -- the tendency of the state is to expand until saturation",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496675454 128597593,128625999,2017-06-05 15:20:32,bump,,Anonymous,taxation is theft.png,AaeL/xEqnNkE62wnvTh2zA==,GB,,1496676032 128597593,128626315,2017-06-05 15:23:08,">>128624503 He's a Brit, eh? I'll try to ask in the entry posts, but no promises.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496676188 128597593,128627636,2017-06-05 15:33:28,this thread is on life support,,Anonymous,conductor_someone_is_treading_on_me.jpg,SqZNEUWc2O0yjDKPvR1FWQ==,GB,,1496676808 128597593,128627705,2017-06-05 15:33:57,How do you explain Universal Basic Income to idiots? They don't seem to understand that ensuring everyone a certain amount of money doesn't mean things will change. I tried explaining that you can't have this as it will devalue money and increase prices on everything.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496676837 128597593,128628114,2017-06-05 15:37:02,">>128624467 I'll give you my best shot since I know and understand where you're coming from. I was pretty much the same way and felt like there was no way Ancapistan could have a strong military to protect itself, as well as some common criticism against private police. But to answer your question on the contrary, I've actually grown to become confident that in Ancapistan, private military would actually be stronger and private police would be safer alternatives. Here's why: >anybody can form a private militia in ancapistan provided they have the voluntary funding needed to support itself >the research, development, and production of military technology can still be done outside a state, meaning that modern firearms, tanks, planes, ships, battlecruisers, stealth bombers, fighter planes, etc. will all still be there >competition between these private militias mean that the efficient private militias will remain while inefficient militias are given no funding to continue >but in times of war, all the private militias can still form temporary agreements with each to cooperate against a common outsider invasion threat and neutralize them accordingly from coordinating tactics What this means is that you only get the best of the best private militias and their tech, and if war happens they can always temporarily band together to preserve each other's mutual freedom. Strong military when needed, but little chance of tyranny and re-establishment of a state as private militias are all splintered during peacetime. Not to mention, that rogue private militias are cut funding and are left to be neutralized from the remaining private militias who still value freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496677022 128597593,128628174,2017-06-05 15:37:32,">>128624467 The same concept applies to private police. The police force that provides the greatest amount of security stays, shitty ones actually lose business and get fired. You're looking at greater response time, better enforcement of private law and keeping the private peace. Corrupt police forces lose funding, and are neutralized by other private police forces, maybe even private militias since they're now rogue and aren't NAP-complaint. Hope this helps If you're interesting in reading more into the nitty-gritty of it, there's a book that specifically address stateless national security and military called The Myth of National Defense available for free here: https://mises.org/library/myth-national-defense-essays-theory-and-history-security-production also available is The Private Production of Defense by Hans-Hermann Hoppe himself: https://mises.org/library/private-production-defence and if you really want a short quick read, here's an article: https://mises.org/library/does-military-defense-require-large-states I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist and I love the military. But I want to love it voluntarily out of duty, obligation, and respect, and not with someone else's gun on my head that says I must fight for them or else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496677052 128597593,128628238,2017-06-05 15:37:54,">>128603846 >I really do think there is a chance in the UK in 5-20 years time of a strong Libertarian representation in parliament i hope you won't be full by then I'm starting to get real tired of their commie shit here",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496677074 128597593,128628955,2017-06-05 15:43:45,">>128627705 >How do you explain Universal Basic Income to idiots? pic related",,Anonymous,file.png,KcUNm7xE8W9zRj/rBjpOdw==,GB,,1496677425 128597593,128629416,2017-06-05 15:47:32,">>128628955 Lol that is too simple of a way to go about it. Still though on a more seriousness of it, I can't stand to let people I know fall for such communist lies. I rather have people better informed and thoroughly enlighten on how society actually works.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496677652 128597593,128629516,2017-06-05 15:48:14,">>128629416 It's not possible to argue with leftists. You're welcome to try and find a way; but I haven't been able to.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496677694 128597593,128630474,2017-06-05 15:56:20,Can someone post a PDF of the recommended reading? Much appreciated,,Anonymous,1490542189067.jpg,ia2+0pGzR738bf2zAn3onQ==,US,,1496678180 128597593,128630952,2017-06-05 16:00:11,">>128630474 https://mises.org/ has PDFs of most of them",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496678411 128597593,128631087,2017-06-05 16:01:17,">>128627705 hit them in the feels, tell them that people wont get UBI on top of welfare but instead of it so poor niggers will likely get less welfare + raising prices. Also ask them what's the point in this when half of that income will be used to pay taxes when it's possible to lower taxation directely",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496678477 128597593,128631336,2017-06-05 16:03:23,"alright lads, I screenshotted my own answer for future reference since ancap and private military/private police are all too common questions that needs concrete answers on the fly my question is this: if you were reading this fresh without context, does it still make sense? I wasn't sure if I had to include the original post it was replying to or if it could stand on its own while being coherent and to save space >>128627705 Don't ever try and explain something to people with economics first, especially leftists, because people just want free shit in the immediate moment and don't give a rats ass about money devaluation and increased prices in the long-term future. They want short-term gratification, and you MUST illustrate how damaging that is on a personal level as it impacts their life, not in an abstract manner. You need ask them questions, and make it clear to them that UBI doesn't work on basic principles. UBI in a nutshell would either: Massively increase taxes OR cut benefits to compensate. Now, after establishing that you further probe them for illogical and inconsistent thinking (the leftist's greatest weakness). Ask them: If you were given free money, would you work as much? They will obvious say no because there would be no need to work. Leftists tend to be lazy fucks. Ask further, ""If you don't work as much, how will there be enough tax revenue to sustain UBI?"" They might say something like ""Well our benefits and welfare is cut so that should be fine."" Which can be countered easily by saying ""Ah, but now you're not just supporting sick people, you're giving money to the healthy as well. There are naturally more healthy working people than unhealthy sick people, meaning you will have to give more money than is earned. How can you sustain the system if you're consuming more than creating?"" They know they can't and must concede. After inevitable ad-hominems, they will lose their shit, and leave, meaning you've won.",,Anonymous,ancap on military and police.png,h6Khd260wy4Rx7Y2nwMTOw==,US,,1496678603 128597593,128631504,2017-06-05 16:04:40,">>128631087 there's also the fact that it makes people dependent on the government which is bad imo but leftists usually aren't sensible to that kind of arguments",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496678680 128597593,128631522,2017-06-05 16:04:48,">>128630474 i gotchu senpai",,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1496678688 128597593,128633050,2017-06-05 16:17:22,tfw I am progressive but still right wing libertarian,,Anonymous,literally me political compass 2.jpg,UbdEJe5F9x+z/LDnZa1mgA==,US,,1496679442 128597593,128633875,2017-06-05 16:23:47,Who's your favorite Senator and why is it Rand Paul?,,Anonymous,Rand_Excited.jpg,nE9NTMyMXgRfFWDdbbXIFw==,US,,1496679827 128597593,128634785,2017-06-05 16:31:24,">>128633050 Literally Dude weed teir.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496680284 128597593,128637154,2017-06-05 16:50:39,">>128628114 >>128628174 I appreciate the well thought out responses. You guys have some strong arguments",,Anonymous,Thumbs Up.png,SRqqh/S2Wm0hL1qpnPoZ3g==,CA,,1496681439 128597593,128637206,2017-06-05 16:51:01,"Have any of you guys read any books lately? I finished Reactionary Liberty and am now beginning Thomas Woods's ""Politically Incorrect Guide to American History"". I thought Taylor's book was awesome, save for quite a few and often annoying spelling or typographic mistakes (you can see when he was writing at 3am after three hours of reading Hoppe and the Right Stuff) but overall I liked it. In the end he says the time for arguments is over and praises both Francisco Franco (pbuh) and Pinochet (pbuh) for murdering communists in retaliation for what they did to Spain and Chile. He then says we libertarians must ally ourselves with traditionalists and monarchists in order to stop the spread of Marxism, as well as advocacy for anti-egalitarianism and anti-democracy. And that we should use the state to further our cause and essentially play the game by the Left's rules instead of trying to reason with them (r-selected rabbits cannot be influenced with K-selected wolves reasoning).",,Anonymous,1496062393225m.jpg,H9esoKR70t/rZe+6ftMuZA==,PT,,1496681461 128597593,128637399,2017-06-05 16:52:24,">>128621489 >your ideology is bad >this video game told me so",,Anonymous,fat-video-gamer1.jpg,6ZT0+sRtBvXwiTHAnTk/pg==,US,,1496681544 128597593,128637460,2017-06-05 16:52:53,">>128637154 I just realized you are one person, anon. Great article btw.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496681573 128597593,128637696,2017-06-05 16:54:44,">>128637154 >>128637460 thanks m8, anytime would be more than happy to answer any more questions you might have, I'm all ears",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496681684 128597593,128639772,2017-06-05 17:11:10,">>128637696 Okay, here's one for you I think excess regulations hurt the economy, by acting as a barrier of entry into the market. The large corporations can deal with regulations, but the small and medium sized businesses often cannot compete in market with high regulations. Given this drawback, I think some regulations are beneficial - particularly environmental ones. I am not a climate change alarmist, but I think it is important that the environment is protected (for example; in cases of over mining, over logging, over fishing, etc.) In the absence of a state, what would stop a large company from, for example, logging all the trees? Or catching all the fish in the ocean? How can you enforce rules and regulations on how a business can operate, without a centralized government creating laws?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496682670 128597593,128640062,2017-06-05 17:13:37,">>128603053 Now this is classic. I've reappropriated your image, I know you won't mind.",,Anonymous,1494195614639.png,oIrCczKEYERrjVyeunvHKg==,US,,1496682817 128597593,128640173,2017-06-05 17:14:37,">>128619396 Does anyone have this image in a not shit-tier resolution so the fine print can be read? Also, red-on-black text is fucking cancer, please stop.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496682877 128597593,128640794,2017-06-05 17:19:45,I personally think all governments and corporations are obligated to keep a high standard of transparency so the people can best make informed choices,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496683185 128597593,128642231,2017-06-05 17:31:51,bump,,Anonymous,1494538684707.png,Cwh2CA9LAZC6AGnIrV9zZQ==,CA,,1496683911 128597593,128642671,2017-06-05 17:35:16,">>128639772 >In the absence of a state, what would stop a large company from, for example, logging all the trees? Or catching all the fish in the ocean? That is a good question, and I think in many ways the Anarcho-Capitalist environmental perspective is rather unappealing to most people because of its extremely blunt nature. I do not mean to be rude when I say this, but in asking: >what would stop a large company from, for example, logging all the trees or catching all the fish in the ocean? the answer is quite simple. What would stop a corporation from ruining their own livelihood? Why, themselves of course. Contrary to what most environmentalists generally conspire, good business are actually most concerned with the environment rather than to be reckless with it. Logging companies cannot afford to cut all the trees, so they must log responsibility and replant trees in the most stable and healthy manner to keep themselves in business. Likewise, overfishing means no more fish to continue their business. It is wholly unreasonable to assume that a business would be so self-destructive, lacking foresight to continue basic enterprise by sabotaging themselves. Needless to say, if a business was indeed so foolish, then that business would not last very long without state-sponsored subsidies and buyouts to keep its shitty destructive business practices afloat. This does not mean of course, that there cannot be some kind of mutual voluntary agreement, or contract, between businesses as an independent green initiate on their own. It feels good to help the environment, and some business may sacrifice pure efficiency in order to be more environmentally-friendly. A state is not needed to enforce human goodwill. It's certainly a hit among consumers to know that the product they're buying is eco-friendly anyways, the entire organic food market relies on it! Basically, waste is waste. Good businesses are already environmentally clean and concerned. No state needed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496684116 128597593,128642943,2017-06-05 17:37:32,"You assert that taxation is theft, but profit in wage-labour isn't in your mind? You assert that taxation is theft, but what about profit? Profit in wage-labour relations is the taking of the surplus value of the worker by the 'Capitalist', or boss. It's the same principle applied to different bodies. Government takes your tax money and the 'Capitalist' takes your surplus value as profit. One upsets you yet the other does not.",,Anonymous,Marx.jpg,T/P8Nwr/+dcXuhxPc2YuxQ==,IE,,1496684252 128597593,128643141,2017-06-05 17:38:58,">>128642943 Profit is voluntary. If you don't want to work for 'capitalists', go live in the wild and make your own food.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496684338 128597593,128643148,2017-06-05 17:39:03,">>128642943 Because we get payed back in the form of shit we can use",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496684343 128597593,128643216,2017-06-05 17:39:34,">>128642943 and then there's THIS potatonigger don't you have a left-liberalism to make and then get shit on for being retarded? you're not even being original anymore, you're literally copypasting your posts and posting the same damn picture of the FAT loser NEET who has never WORKED a JOB in his life",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496684374 128597593,128643749,2017-06-05 17:43:47,">>128643216 Why not repost the same argument? It's easier than writing it all up again. >>128643141 >Voluntary Nigger, no it's not. You either do it or you die. Not much of a choice. >>128643148 >In the form of shit we can use Oh yeah, because you can't use the roads, schools, emergency services and courts that the government runs, right?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496684627 128597593,128643850,2017-06-05 17:44:33,">>128643141 Living under a state is voluntary as well unless that state forbids immigration. This means taxes aren't theft either.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496684673 128597593,128644067,2017-06-05 17:46:13,">>128643749 Because sometimes the government is fucking incompetent. Look at Detroit's infrastructure",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496684773 128597593,128644125,2017-06-05 17:46:42,">>128643749 oh I'll repost the same argument alright, you spammy potatonigger >You either do it or you die. False. you can be homeless and beg for food. Nobody is forcing you to work. You can choose a shitty life, that's your choice. Luxury is luxury comrade, you must resist bourgeois temptations like anything remotely comfortable! t. lenin in his premium ROLLS ROYCE car",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496684802 128597593,128644316,2017-06-05 17:48:09,">>128644067 >Detroit is representative of all government infrastructure projects ever Let's just forget about extreme poverty in Detroit, the toxic welfare-dependent culture and rising crime rates....",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496684889 128597593,128644642,2017-06-05 17:50:29,">>128640173 I gotchu senpai",,Anonymous,1489063397341.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1496685029 128597593,128644837,2017-06-05 17:51:58,>>128599807,,Anonymous,1438488927755.png,bjVooDeDqUg+JDaImjH3Tw==,US,,1496685118 128597593,128645002,2017-06-05 17:53:11,">>128644837 well as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions you can't go to hell if there's no road to begin with so we win",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496685191 128597593,128645281,2017-06-05 17:55:17,">>128643749 >You either do it or you die. False. (Under anarcho-capitalism) you are free to form a worker's group where you receive all the value of your labour, or to go homestead uninhabited land and live off it. >>128643850 Living under a state is voluntary as well unless that state forbids immigration. False. You require the state's permission to emigrate in all cases; and even if you did not there is no habitable land not under the jurisdiction of a state (since the government can claim to 'own' swathes of land that have never even been set foot on).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496685317 128597593,128647318,2017-06-05 18:11:04,bump,,Anonymous,1494108542284.png,loIF+sdxueQ2mfVL6nf4TA==,US,,1496686264 128597593,128647619,2017-06-05 18:13:25,">>128598505 Wait, if every piece of land in the nation is privately owned, that means you'd have to pay a toll every time you wish to leave your property, and then pay a toll to enter the next strip of land and so on and so forth",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496686405 128597593,128647967,2017-06-05 18:16:08,">>128647619 >implying or your covenant has agreements with other covenants for free travel in order to attract easy flow of workers. Piss them them off though, and you could be charged a penalty fine or just put on a shitlist and be given restricted access",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496686568 128597593,128648512,2017-06-05 18:20:52,">>128642671 I agree with you, a business would naturally want to act in a sustainable way to preserve their livelihood. But what about a case where individuals merely wanted to make as much money in a short amount of time possible. Without fishing agencies regulating the amount of fish that could be caught, any man with a boat and a net could start fishing and making money. An individual could be using it as a stepping stone to create capital to start another business venture, or just as a scheme to ""get rich quick"" This is just a hypothetical, but it's true with other examples that pertain to the allocation of resources. I live in an oil province in Canada, and after the second world war, many Europeans came to Alberta for the ""oil rush"". There was very relaxed regulations at that time, and lots of environmental problems had occurred as a result. Lots of rivers and lakes were polluted, agricultural land was destroyed, etc.. Now, regretfully, the regulations have gone to the other extreme, being very stringent. There is only a handful of companies who work in the oil business here, because of the very strict rules. It has stifled the oil market in Alberta, but there hasn't been any environmental disasters, so at the very least, the rules seem to have that advantage Would this happen organically if there wasn't a government creating these rules? I want to believe that the companies would self govern, but I think there is a number of sociopaths who would say ""Fuck the environment"" and drill as much oil as possible without concern for the land. I like your idea of a ""mutual voluntary agreement"", but without penalties enforced for breaking the agreement, it seems ineffective. This brings it back to my original problem with Ancapistan, how can penalties be enforced, without some centralized agreement or understanding of common rules.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496686852 128597593,128648701,2017-06-05 18:22:18,">>128647967 And why in God's name would I want that? So basically you want a system where if I have an argument with my neighbour it could mean I couldn't get to work the next day?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496686938 128597593,128648883,2017-06-05 18:23:29,">>128611684 >>Goes full John Galt with autistic radio speeches Excited for this desu",,Anonymous,herecomedatmoly.gif,GEISfQxDklhsJ4FU3Yup3Q==,US,,1496687009 128597593,128649128,2017-06-05 18:25:27,">>128648701 >hurr why can't I be a jackass without consequences? that's what you get for being a shitty neighbor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496687127 128597593,128650133,2017-06-05 18:32:56,">>128649128 >Be me >In Ancapistan >Get drunk with neighbours at a BBQ >Suddenly, an argument breaks out between me and another neighbour >The neighbour storms home saying ""You'll pay for this"" >The next day >Have to go to work >Suddenly see sign saying ""Anon not allowed to pass through here"" >Have to pay $50 to go through my other nextd door neighbour's property >Since wages have been hideously depressed because Corporate owners aren't actually decent people after all, I can't pay the toll >Lose job as a result >Die due to a lack of government social safety net",,Anonymous,Anarcho-Capitalism.png,GXT+F5/ZgZolArMAltzZVA==,IE,,1496687576 128597593,128650617,2017-06-05 18:36:29,">>128650133 I've literally never gotten into a drunk argument with anyone so bad that they'd do that to me. Tough shit. Suck it up and learn how to handle your booze.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496687789 128597593,128650745,2017-06-05 18:37:28,>>128650133,,Anonymous,1494546389819.jpg,mdd51Fmezkzhhn2bpZwt8w==,CA,,1496687848 128597593,128650869,2017-06-05 18:38:28,">>128650133 >Black roads = owned by companies/city >Surrounded by privately owned houses",,Anonymous,Untitled.png,OYvlXnv5tLF6pu/6vFYADw==,GB,,1496687908 128597593,128651510,2017-06-05 18:42:49,">>128650745 An Ancap talking about something being unrealistic. Your entire ideology is unrealistic.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496688169 128597593,128652264,2017-06-05 18:48:11,"D.C. is a great place to live on days like these, every 30 mins a helicopter comes flying over my house and I get a little bit excited.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496688491 128597593,128652292,2017-06-05 18:48:24,">>128651510 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496688504 128597593,128654197,2017-06-05 19:02:24,">>128648512 I understand your concern and it is regretfully valid. It is true that some people may act irrationally and irresponsibility, but by their own very nature it doesn't last very long. That's not to say that the consequences of their actions won't be damaging for quite some time as you've said, but you must keep in mind that historically oil rushes were on government property and thus, these oil operations could just assume that it's the government responsibility and take no caution. Why bother, when the polluted rivers and lakes and the government's problem, not theirs? This is not the case in Ancapistan. There is no federal land, meaning these oil workers are entirely responsible for their actions. Responsibility mind you, which entails consequences, and these consequences may not have to be federally-enforced to occur. Rivers and lakes could be someone else's private property, meaning they would take action against recklessness and negligence in private courts. Penalties in the local area could mean getting blacklisted, ostracized, or even the product of your business boycotted/outright declined from being purchased in concerned markets out of protest. A government is not needed to inflict consequence, especially on a local level. In addition, other more safe-practicing businesses in the area naturally have an incentive to keep things as clean as possible for their own mutual use in the future. Environmental abuse does not occur in a void, and certainly does not remain undetected for long with modern technologies. These ""mutual voluntary agreements"" can go both ways, and again punishment can still be inflicted if broken. The abusers' business given bad reputation, or just not even recognized as legitimate anymore; there's an infinite amount of creative means to send a signal that a behavior is not tolerated so freely by the people around the area who actually live and work there. The ""fuck the environment"" guys still get into trouble.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496689344 128597593,128654462,2017-06-05 19:04:23,">>128648512 In a sense, it is the good businesses that oversee the market now to keep communication with each other for best practices and to weed out poor uncooperative businesses by non-violent means. They have mutual, voluntary gain that way instead of a quick get-rich scheme committed to nothing in the short term. With government out the way, the power gap left is still being occupied something more local and more decisive with their action instead of lethargic bureaucracy. So to really address your main concern of ""how can penalties be enforced, without some centralized agreement or understanding of common rules."" is that penalties are still enforced, just not centrally but on a more straightforward local level. No nonsense. There can agreement and understanding of common rules that vary depending on who owns the property, but you don't reinvent the wheel. Waste is waste, it is dirty, unclean, bad for product, people, and ultimately just bad for profit unlike what environmental proclaim. People will keep an eye out for environmental abuse, blow whistles, maybe even have a private reward/bounty for it paid for by the good-practicing businesses. Crime just does not pay, and short-term abusers like what you described are given just as much technical freedom to act like that, as much as other long-term businesses to act accordingly and administrate local penalties to ensure a few bad apples don't permanently spoil the environmental bunch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496689463 128597593,128654562,2017-06-05 19:05:13,"Can't have """"""""""""""""terrorist attacks"""""""""""""""""" if there are no roads.",,Anonymous,jewishtricks.png,oP69+v/KJT5IVXUEer/xtQ==,SE,,1496689513 128597593,128654812,2017-06-05 19:07:12,">>128650133 that seems perfectly reasonable desu, cunts should be given consequences if they can't control themselves you're literally advocating a degenerate irresponsible society also >Since wages have been hideously depressed because Corporate owners aren't actually decent people after all, I can't pay the toll >being unskilled and shit with your money like drinking if you're a poorfag instead of saving up to get a better job you deserve EVERYTHING that happens",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496689632 128597593,128655232,2017-06-05 19:10:28,">>128654812 No, I'm advocating a society like we have now where I don't have to fucking plan my entire life around whether my next door neighbour likes me this week or not. >He thinks companies would pay high wages in an Anarcho-Capitalist system Kek",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496689828 128597593,128655645,2017-06-05 19:13:24,">>128655232 >I'm advocating a society like we have now where I don't have to fucking plan my entire life around whether my next door neighbour likes me this week or not. so you want society where people can be insufferable asshats without consequence? waow imagin mai shock and >company doesn't pay high enough wage >people don't work for them and go somewhere else to company that does pay high i just realized you probably don't have an emergency fund too if sudden expenses catch you off-guard. baka",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496690004 128597593,128656345,2017-06-05 19:18:42,*Slow Clap,,Anonymous,Political_chartfdhdh.jpg,jTpM0FIuujZiiqYsSW3T1g==,US,,1496690322 128597593,128656670,2017-06-05 19:21:10,">>128655645 >Company A offers to pay you $3 per hour for your services >Company B offers to pay you $4.50 for your services Oh, it's a miracle! Praise the market! Thank God that pesky minimum wage that guaranteed at least $8 is gone now. Yes, Mr. Goldstein is happy.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1496690470 128597593,128657174,2017-06-05 19:25:15,">>128656345 Bottom left is more like > Give me your lawn > You don't have a lawn > Lawns are theft > Kicking me off your lawn is literal slavery Greens don't share, they're the least charitable cunts around.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496690715 128597593,128658398,2017-06-05 19:34:29,">>128621489 Why the fuck are people responding to this retarded jew who think a video game is real life. You have dumbass and then you have this guy.",,Anonymous,AynRand.jpg,aZc20gVMl7MmpMKkbjBv4g==,BE,,1496691269 128597593,128658735,2017-06-05 19:36:59,">>128656670 >implying I would still work for that low have some self-respect potatonigger, not everybody is willing to work for $4.50 because they're that useless in the working world You mentioned company A and B, but not C, D, E, F, or G, or all the other letters of not just the Latin alphabetic, but maybe even Cyrillic as well. if you're good enough you can more opportunities than just two shitty companies all competing against each other! Truly capitalism is exploitation, comrade!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496691419 128597593,128659426,2017-06-05 19:42:21,">>128644642 >Have no government >Who controls the borders? Honestly Libertarianism is the most retarded ideology",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496691741 128597593,128659667,2017-06-05 19:44:27,">>128659426 Doesn't matter if you have open borders when people actually have to work to get money and a house.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496691867 128597593,128660196,2017-06-05 19:48:45,">>128606835 i did, it's counted as spam if i post the full url.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496692125 128597593,128660421,2017-06-05 19:50:37,">>128659667 Yes, it does matter. Non-whites might be dumber than whites, but not to the point where they're unable to survive and reproduce without government handouts.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496692237 128597593,128660719,2017-06-05 19:52:59,">>128660421 That's totally fine. I'm just saying there's a barrier to entry in these theoretical communities. If a nigger wants to go live there and he produces enough value and makes enough money to do so, I have no problem with it.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1496692379 128597593,128660764,2017-06-05 19:53:18,">>128650133 >be you >be gladly indoctrinated by the state on keynesian stupidity >make dumb statements like ""wages are depressed"" >don't understand what currency is in a free society >don't understand anything of the austrian school of economics >don't understand subjective value theory >make up strawman shit that can be easily refuted by literally just telling other people what a prick this neighbour is and make a deal to get together and treat this neighbour in the same way as he treats you. Leftists will always be morons.",,Anonymous,A new friend.png,UmHN43M4YCfDwF1T1u7tGA==,BE,,1496692398 128597593,128660791,2017-06-05 19:53:33,">>128601456 >Not being a right wing georgist The Heathian goal is to have cities and large land areas owned by single private corporations, which would own and rent out the land and housing over the area, and provide all conceivable ""public services"": police, fire, roads, courts, etc., out of the voluntarily-paid rent. Heathianism is Henry Georgism stood on its head; like George, Heath and MacCallum would provide for all public services out of rent; but unlike George, the rent would be collected, and the land owned, by private corporate landlords rather than by the government, and the payment therefore voluntary rather than coercive. The Heathian 'proprietary community' is, of course, in stark contrast to the scruffy egalitarian commune dreamed of by anarchists of the Left. -Rothbard, review of Spencer heath.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496692413 128597593,128660814,2017-06-05 19:53:49,">>128598596 (((elite))) schools",,Anonymous,100000000.jpg,Zu0J3/kAaP2SU6OgQ0pYIQ==,US,,1496692429 128597593,128660873,2017-06-05 19:54:13,">>128597593 here guys I made this for you",,Anonymous,Dont Tread on Me.png,ukeC4NHLPl98IBceQpm9hA==,US,,1496692453 128597593,128662154,2017-06-05 20:04:31,">>128621059 >Melting Pot of Friendship Too bad he's now on break since last month.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496693071 128597593,128662243,2017-06-05 20:05:18,"kek look at this commie faggot I found in the Youtube comments for a DPRK documentary. He unironically consumes days worth of anime and videogames and still preaches against the ""horrors"" of capitalism. When will these upper middle class kids stop projecting?",,Anonymous,1261361367.png,gTyid1dmt64aDindFMOs4w==,US,,1496693118 128597593,128662769,2017-06-05 20:09:53,">>128662243 jesus christ what a cuck ideologically and physically",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496693393 128597593,128663485,2017-06-05 20:15:55,ANTIFA just wants to know why did yeins not do anything as we fought the cop ??,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496693755 128597593,128663629,2017-06-05 20:17:06,pdx green.antifa,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496693826 128597593,128665150,2017-06-05 20:30:00,">>128654197 >>128654462 It is unfortunate that some people try to abuse the system for a quick dollar, but there will always be people like that in in any political system. As long as disincentives are put in place and penalties can be enforced, then I have no problems against ""Ancapistan"". Thanks for the write up, you make some interesting points. Do you have any other book recommendations around this topic?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496694600 128597593,128667662,2017-06-05 20:50:44,">>128654462 I really like the idea you wrote about reward/incentives for good-practicing businesses. I think that would be a great way to help businesses act environmentally minded. There are many ways it could be achieved: A private association could offer money to businesses who met certain environmental standards. Also, consumers would likely chose to purchase goods from companies who met these environmental standards. It would make it beneficial for a company to meet the criteria, for a competitive advantage in the marketplace. There's an old biblical story about how there are 2 different ways to get a donkey to move - you can whip it, or carry a carrot in front of it's face (paraphrasing). I think the non-violent means works better in a sociological sense. Of course penalties should be enforced, but society should organize itself in a way that it rewards good business practices.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496695844 128597593,128669619,2017-06-05 21:08:01,Bump.,,Anonymous,IMG_1951.jpg,IIKhdReucj6mPUxJmzyVug==,US,,1496696881 128597593,128669638,2017-06-05 21:08:13,bumping,,Anonymous,1493810647453.png,z4RpmBmwQpI5EG/2y02Vpg==,CA,,1496696893 128597593,128670166,2017-06-05 21:13:17,How accurate is this /pol/?,,Anonymous,IMG_3805.jpg,ju04TuW3ouDsR/4kO/hVog==,US,,1496697197 128597593,128671193,2017-06-05 21:21:56,">>128597593 GODDAMN GUBMINT STAY AWAY FROM MY GUNS STAY AWAY FROM MY WEED STAY OUT OF MY WALLET STAY OUT OF MY SEX REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,[liberty ringing in the distance].jpg,pY+X3AG0mooDjtdWJLi3/Q==,US,,1496697716 128597593,128671363,2017-06-05 21:23:29,">>128660873 Thanks bro.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496697809 128597593,128671660,2017-06-05 21:26:10,>>128671193,,Anonymous,1496273783078.jpg,7TSLVUDUsSZW25HEauL8wg==,CA,,1496697970 128597593,128672031,2017-06-05 21:29:15,">>128670166 Too much",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496698155 128597593,128672151,2017-06-05 21:30:21,">>128631336 This also applies to stuff like minimum wage, free healthcare, free education, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496698221 128597593,128672698,2017-06-05 21:35:16,">>128633050 dangerously close to needing a big, fat helping of helicopter rides there, cowboy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496698516 128597593,128673039,2017-06-05 21:38:22,">>128671363 sure thing friendo I have a bunch of others",,Anonymous,file.png,KbMNrQahNcj0vPUkRDar1A==,US,,1496698702 128597593,128674424,2017-06-05 21:50:56,">>128606642 Is it a dot com?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496699456 128597593,128674640,2017-06-05 21:52:46,Are there any counterarguments when a leftist mentions about environmental issues? I saw a couple left-wing people mentioning that deregulating the economy will increase climate change.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496699566 128597593,128675296,2017-06-05 21:58:44,">>128674640 See >>128642671 >>128648512 >>128654197 >>128654462",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496699924 128597593,128675314,2017-06-05 21:58:56,">>128674640 >1st world countries are the most successful and have the highest quality of healthcare, food, infrastructure >3rd world countries are the least successful and they have shitty pollution, healthcare water, food, environment, etc.. >thus 1st world free markets strive for greener solutions organically (ba dum tss) anyway tl;dr - free market > fairy tale bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496699936 128597593,128676376,2017-06-05 22:08:05,"Evergreen college is under militant Liberal control. Right-Wing Militia liberation offensive when, my dudes?",,Anonymous,1489529984266.jpg,JkVQtORFLcLXCeBjXTK3Og==,US,,1496700485 128597593,128677898,2017-06-05 22:21:33,dank,,Anonymous,Dank meme you got there.jpg,80MJ3+63FUWHyhDe2fBsdw==,CA,,1496701293 128597593,128678418,2017-06-05 22:26:08,how long will it take for the US to be libertarian again?,,Anonymous,,,CO,,1496701568 128597593,128680682,2017-06-05 22:46:49,,,Anonymous,1494258514807.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,CA,,1496702809 128597593,128680689,2017-06-05 22:46:51,">>128615470 you dont realise how money works",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1496702811 128597593,128680833,2017-06-05 22:48:15,">>128618548 implying private property isnt sustained by force",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1496702895 128597593,128681316,2017-06-05 22:53:04,">>128628114 >but in times of war, all the private militias can still form temporary agreements with each to cooperate against a common outsider invasion threat and neutralize them accordingly from coordinating tactics TOP KEK >mfw ancaps use the human nature argument againts us commies but they are oblivious to their own shit",,Anonymous,epic_lulz.jpg,8978dW/3l6llc88UoQnSnA==,BG,,1496703184 128597593,128683699,2017-06-05 23:15:24,">>128665150 >>128667662 That's all precisely right, and I personally can say no more about the topic. You've said it all lad I wish there were more books exclusively about this but this is kind of buried within state criticism and economical principles. I would just refer to general reading guides like >>128631522 and of course the one on the pastebin. The one in the /lrg/ website might be a bit easier to navigate though but they should have similar recommendations: http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ Cheers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496704524 128597593,128684189,2017-06-05 23:20:06,">>128681316 >ancaps use the human nature argument againts us commies >they are oblivious to their own shit what are you talking about? this is all completely voluntary associations of course. The private militias that temporarily band together can eliminate a hostile outside threat in order to secure their own individual freedom. Nobody is forcing them to do this, but obviously if you have common goals and a clear enemy it's much easier to cooperate with people. The private militias that don't defend freedom and betray ancapistan, well, not only would they lose funding and local support but they are just then rogue and can be eliminated in a life-or-death scenario. There's no forcing them, but the consequences of their actions has well, consequences. Very deadly ones when the times get really desperate, absolutely.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496704806 128597593,128684197,2017-06-05 23:20:12,">>128683699 I'll dig in. Thanks",,Anonymous,1493541988440.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,CA,,1496704812 128597593,128684279,2017-06-05 23:20:56,">>128684197 anytime canadabro",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496704856 128597593,128685979,2017-06-05 23:37:29,">>128618374 >without regard for family... Okay riddle me this, Why do most Marxist want to destroy the idea of the traditional family unit? I agree in the sense that we humans work best in packs/clans. But we are not as a some ant in a hive mind. Of course, we should have loyalty to our family and nation. But let me ask you this what comes first for a man? His family or his nation, better yet the clan that loves and truly knows you, or the larger unfeeling hive that views you as an extension of it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496705849 128597593,128688295,2017-06-05 23:59:45,">>128597593 Am I late to the party?",,Anonymous,1496120695379.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1496707185 128597593,128688343,2017-06-06 00:00:12,">>128688295 no you're just in time my friend",,Anonymous,1489061463362.jpg,AD48cnHB0aC9kyMS9GVrTw==,US,,1496707212 128597593,128688532,2017-06-06 00:02:07,">>128604079 >Marx's influence on Jefferson Karl Marx was born in 1818, Jefferson died in 1826. Are you trying to tell me that Karl Marx had already developed his ideas on communism and relayed and persuaded Jefferson with them before he was even 10 years old?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496707327 128597593,128688537,2017-06-06 00:02:09,">>128607963 Damn Chester Arthur? I need a redpill on him",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496707329 128597593,128688557,2017-06-06 00:02:19,">>128685979 Family first. This is our true biology - blood is thicker than water >Strong individuals create strong families >Strong families create strong communities >Strong communities create strong societies",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496707339 128597593,128689939,2017-06-06 00:15:23,">>128613255 Listening to it now. Best AnCap show you're gonna find.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496708123 128597593,128690016,2017-06-06 00:16:12,">>128688343 If only the rattlesnake was the national animal of the US instead of the bald eagle... we would've been meme-tier Snekistan by now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496708172 128597593,128690232,2017-06-06 00:18:32,">>128690016 it's funny how the snake was considered the bad guy in the bible...or was he I don't think he forced eve to take a bite of that apple",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496708312 128597593,128690601,2017-06-06 00:22:32,">>128690232 Eve broke the NAP by eating the apple, so she and Adam had to be physically removed, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496708552 128597593,128690847,2017-06-06 00:25:19,">>128690601 so you're telling me, that genesis was about two people breaking the NAP by consuming an unauthorized product in someone else's private property (the garden of eden)?",,Anonymous,1494032332570.jpg,ylHG+ULWWY4mKcM4OFjbgA==,US,,1496708719 128597593,128691310,2017-06-06 00:30:31,">>128690847 wtf I hate Adam and Eve now",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496709031 128597593,128691325,2017-06-06 00:30:38,">>128690847 Pretty much. The whole Satan v. God thing is just an ongoing property dispute gone wild.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496709038 128597593,128692873,2017-06-06 00:48:40,"you know in all seriousness after having thought about it, if the apple was a welfare check then eve could really be a single mother accepting stolen goods she was never supposed to have taken if she was responsible for goddamn once literally right there in the bible we see the bullshit of socialism",,Anonymous,1495148535491.jpg,DC/PvfeRjtgcgflCTXtBtQ==,US,,1496710120 128597593,128692982,2017-06-06 00:49:55,I can't believe NatSoc loves this guy so much. Every time he opens his mouth I cringe,,Anonymous,Richardi Spensov.jpg,Crp3S1bi+wJD+4biFCwa9Q==,CA,,1496710195 128597593,128693331,2017-06-06 00:54:36,">>128692982 I agree, he's such a poser doesn't even seem to take his conviction seriously if he's blabbing nonsense like that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496710476 128597593,128693850,2017-06-06 01:01:33,">>128693331 He is both a nazi sympathizer and a communist sympathizer. It makes no sense at all",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496710893 128597593,128693938,2017-06-06 01:02:43,">>128693850 you know what he really is? an attention whore",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496710963 128597593,128694267,2017-06-06 01:06:57,">>128597593 Hey LRG, not exactly a private currency, but give me your thoughts. >>128694135 >>128694135 >>128694135 >>128694135 >>128694135 Some ancaps here thought about shilling bitcoin for these people (I don't think they even have internet tho)",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496711217 128597593,128694396,2017-06-06 01:08:42,">>128692982 ENORMOUS FAGGOT DETECTED Richard Spencer is controlled opposition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496711322 128597593,128694774,2017-06-06 01:13:24,Libertarianism grows in the heart of everybody's outgroup.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496711604 128597593,128694809,2017-06-06 01:13:56,">>128624467 If you don't trust the government to grow food or make cars, why do you trust them with far more important and complex issues like defense, police, and emergency services? It sounds like you either haven't heard good arguments for freedom or aren't applying them consistently. This is the question David D. Friedman asks in Machinery of Freedom. It is one of the most underrated ancap books around. You can find a nice summary on youtube, and he has an old version for free on his webside as a PDF.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496711636 128597593,128695675,2017-06-06 01:24:55,">>128694267 more info >>128695122 >>128695172 >>128695198",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1496712295 128597593,128695923,2017-06-06 01:28:20,">>128656670 Lol, you think the minimum wage is anything more than ploy by unions to keep you out of a job. If you can't produce more than $8 of value per hour, you probably won't have a job. Business can't employ people worth less than that. And judging by your arguments, you probably produce a lot less than $3.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496712500 128597593,128696552,2017-06-06 01:36:34,">>128659426 Idea: You buy a thin sliver of land around your entire community, just enough for a barb wire fence, probably less than an inch. No one can cross it without your permission, if they do, they are a criminal and can be treated as such. Tell the community you will keep undesirables out if they pay you. Get money, kill niggers. One of the most common objections to libertarianism is people pointing out certain services they think won't be provided. But if those service are that important, they can easily pay the people the government already has doing those services, or competitors, money to keep doing them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496712994 128597593,128696597,2017-06-06 01:37:09,">>128694809 I'll check it out, thanks",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496713029 128749292,128749292,2017-06-06 12:56:58,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >/lrg/ Chatroom /y3BzZM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - WHAT IF THE COMMIE CONSENTS TO HELICOPTER REMOVAL THO?,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1496753818 128749292,128749425,2017-06-06 12:58:20,,,Anonymous,helicopter ride.png,AA6fQmCZjpGyJ8gJgW0kJg==,US,,1496753900 128749292,128751261,2017-06-06 13:16:12,Aww shit its the /lrg/,,Anonymous,Paleo.jpg,iHtyzVPc9hgZ76ZY76NIdw==,US,,1496754972 128749292,128751284,2017-06-06 13:16:29,,,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1496754989 128749292,128751888,2017-06-06 13:22:21,Communists have only one goal. Absolute control. Don't let it happen you fucks.,,Anonymous,1495824504850.jpg,a4PBiO6dA3lGuhqtcANd3w==,US,,1496755341 128749292,128752074,2017-06-06 13:23:58,"The promotion and tolerance of ""degeneracy"" is a tool used by the state to take power from the citizens.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1496755438 128749292,128752142,2017-06-06 13:24:33,Open borders is an assault on private property.,,Anonymous,OpenBorders2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1496755473 128749292,128752158,2017-06-06 13:24:44,"Has anyone been paying attention to Porcfest or the Libertarian State Leadership Alliance? They're having seminars on ""Physically Removing the alt-right"" from libertarianism, led by this land whale, Leslee Petersen. Cantwell does a good job breaking it down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JF0Y2Thbsw",,Anonymous,harpoon.png,Ftr9E0A6TynFG1UPpM+OTg==,US,,1496755484 128749292,128752199,2017-06-06 13:25:04,">>128752158 Fuck wrong link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9wrwQK6q1g",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496755504 128749292,128753142,2017-06-06 13:34:26,">>128752199 in the the name of jesus,mary and joseph this bitch's group is worse than libertarian bleeding hearts",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1496756066 128749292,128754733,2017-06-06 13:49:17,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496756957 128749292,128755595,2017-06-06 13:56:35,">>128752142 So a ranch owner on the Texas/Mexico border is allowed to invite in as many Mexicans as he wants? Don't be a moron. Open borders = border security.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496757395 128749292,128756613,2017-06-06 14:05:59,">>128755595 Sure, he can destroy his property by letting Mexicans live there and buy his property. How does open borders equal border security?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496757959 128749292,128756988,2017-06-06 14:09:20,">>128752158 No I'm afraid to see what horrible shit they're up to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496758160 128749292,128758133,2017-06-06 14:18:54,">>128756613 separates the good apples from the bad apples. allowing border police to catch the bad apples. good apples go and register and document themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496758734 128749292,128760257,2017-06-06 14:37:42,">>128758133 I like border police, you should protect your property. Open borders does not equal border security, why did you say that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496759862 128749292,128760908,2017-06-06 14:43:21,">>128760257 Remember prohibition? Was there still liquor? Of course. Open up the borders, and it becomes much easier to track who's coming and going. Making the border more secure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496760201 128749292,128761336,2017-06-06 14:47:01,,,Anonymous,IMG_0474.png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,US,,1496760421 128749292,128761643,2017-06-06 14:49:38,What's up bois?,,Anonymous,Ancap_Maryland_3.jpg,jAu8PsgucJkzlk9veoZnfQ==,US,,1496760578 128749292,128761807,2017-06-06 14:50:58,What is the best economic book in your opinion?The one who explain better and in detail the whole economic /lrg/ system.,,Anonymous,1485795597087.jpg,Bsj96GThcMxS6VXkjD4Ppw==,IT,,1496760658 128749292,128762226,2017-06-06 14:54:26,">>128760908 Ending border security will make the borders more secure, makes sense. >>128761807 If you wanna read a textbook, man economy and state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496760866 128749292,128762823,2017-06-06 14:58:55,">>128762226 And if i'm searching for something more divulgative to approach the subject what would you suggest to me?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1496761135 128749292,128763059,2017-06-06 15:00:48,">>128752158 >>128752199 That's disgusting, both the land whale and the idea.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496761248 128749292,128763823,2017-06-06 15:07:11,I tried to make a weekly book club but no one was interested,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496761631 128749292,128763861,2017-06-06 15:07:28,">>128762226 hard for you to understand because you believe a closed or nearly closed border will keep illegals out. under that rational, we have no or very very few illegals in this country now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496761648 128749292,128764218,2017-06-06 15:10:19,So what's the general /lrg/ opinion on Ayn Rand?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496761819 128749292,128764493,2017-06-06 15:12:35,">>128763861 Hello, me and my extended Mexican family of 65 people would like to live on your property, allow me to remind you that it is impossible to keep us out. You might as well sacrifice your property to us now before we sneak in. Bullshit line of reasoning. Opposing theft doesn't work because people still steal, so don't try and stop it. Rape happens so let's just make take legal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496761955 128749292,128764704,2017-06-06 15:14:19,">>128764218 she's a cunt",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762059 128749292,128764728,2017-06-06 15:14:35,when did you realize libertarianism doesn't work?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762075 128749292,128764915,2017-06-06 15:16:05,">>128749292 Flaws in Austrian economics and the writings of Rothbard + Mises **2.1 Utility Scales** Modern neoclassical economics use utility functions to describe the preference of individuals. For example, it may be established that an individual’s utility U=a*1n(quantity of apples)+(1-a)*1n(quantity of oranges). Rothbard instead preferred to discuss the concept of ‘value scales’ for individuals. For example, an individual person’s preferences could be given by {1st apple, 2nd apple, 1st orange, 3rd apple... etc}. Both approaches provide an obvious interpretation of “utility maximisation”. For neoclassical economics, the individual person would be selecting the largest feasible value of U, while for Rothbard a maximizing individual satisfied the highest-ranked feasible preferences on his value scale. Rothbard’s criticism of the utility functions is this - ```“Value scales of each individual are purely ordinal (first, second, third) and there is no concept of ‘distance’ or ‘measurement’ between things eg cardinality (One, two, three, fourteen, etc)”``` **Rothbard writes:** ```“The chief errors here consist in conceiving utility as a certain quantity, a definite function of an increment of the commodity…”``` Utility is not a set number but a rank - dismissing the cardinal utility functions that neoclassical economists use.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762165 128749292,128765000,2017-06-06 15:16:51,"**Rothbard goes on to dismiss an ‘intermediate’ microeconomics theory of:** ```“in equilibrium the ratio of the marginal utilities of the various goods equals the ratio of their prices Without going into tons of detail and boring on for ages, we can see its absurd conclusion since utilities are quantities and therefore cannot be divided into the ratios the theory speaks of”``` However Rothbard doesn’t understand the position he is attacking here. Utility function approach is based as solidly on ordinal utility as his own theory is although he misunderstands the point neoclassicals make.. The modern neoclassical theorists like Debreau who developed this utility function approach went out of their way to avoid the use of cardinal utility. For example they might say that ```“bundle A offers utility of 8, while bundle B offers utility of 7”``` - Rothbard concludes this means that they are talking about cardinal utility. But the language here is technical and you need to check the definitions. Upon doing so you can find that the meaning of the statement is nothing more or less than *“bundle one is preferred to bundle two”* - the function itself is just a shorthand way of expressing this. This is why neoclassicals say that the utility function is uniquely defined *up to a monotonic transformation (scaled mapping)*. You can rescale the utility function any way you want and it will still work, provided it’s monotonic. This comes to absurd conclusions. Rothbard rejected this utility-function approach, and it led to ad hoc concessions and admittals in his writings. Using the value scale method he developed, he could derive the laws of supply and demand as theorems. For whatever reason after that though, he decided to concede that ‘backward’ bending supply curves can exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762211 128749292,128765027,2017-06-06 15:17:08,"Furthermore in his discussion on taxation’s impact on economics, he admits the possibility of greater taxation of labour income could induce an increase in labour supply, even going into the realm of mention a ‘substitution’ and an ‘income’ effect which his initial treatment of utility theory and demand utterly failed to mention. What’s pretty interesting here is that Rothbard was unable to derive the substitution and income effects from *his own method*. Rather he borrowed it from the standard utility function analysis which he criticised so much. In short, Rothbard dismissed the neoclassical economic approach to utility theory, but decided to apply it ad hoc when it suited his arguments or lines of thinking. **2.2 Indifference** So the utility function approach has a final implication that Rothbard ALSO rejected for reasons I don’t fully understand. Let’s go back to using your typical neoclassical definitions and mathematical expressions. U(a)>U(b) simply means that given choice *a* or choice *b* both with utility U, *a* will be chosen. The same way U(a)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762228 128749292,128765074,2017-06-06 15:17:26,"The important assumption here - one that Mises and Rothbard both shared, is that no preference can exist which cannot be revealed in action. But why bother assuming this? Is this not an importation of behaviourism into a body of solely economic thought which purports to be militantly anti-behavioural? Rothbard tells us in his introduction to Mises’ *Theory and History:* ```One example that Mises liked to use in his class to demonstrate the difference between two fundamental ways of approaching human behavior was looking at Grand Central Station behavior during rush hour. The ""objective"" or ""truly scientific"" behaviorist, he pointed out, would observe the empirical events: e.g., people rushing back and forth, aimlessly at certain predictable times of day. And that is all he would know. But the true student of human action would start from the fact that all human behavior is purposive, and he would see the purpose is to get from home to the train to work in the morning, the opposite at night, etc. It is obvious which one would discover and know more about human behavior, and therefore which one would be the genuine 'scientist.``` Just as there is more to my actions than my behaviour, there is more to my preferences than my action. I can have all sorts of preferences that are not - *and could not be*- revealed in my actions. For example my preference for ice cream yesterday can no longer be revealed, since I had no ice cream yesterday and any present action regarding ice cream would merely reveal a *present* preference for it, not a past one. However I still have introspective knowledge of my ice cream preference from *yesterday*. Similarly I can’t ever reveal my preferences for products other than the market price, but by introspection I can know them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762246 128749292,128765108,2017-06-06 15:17:44,"In exactly the same way as this, I can know some cases in which I’m indifferent. I know I don’t really care about the colours of clothes, I pick one, I know for certain that I would have picked the other if the prices were not equal. The behaviourist type person might deny the reality of this and my mental states, but clearly that’s not the route Mises and Rothbard would want to take. Instead they use hypothetical preferences in other contexts. The interaction of supply and demand let us observe a single point - the equilibrium price and quantity - but nevertheless Rothbard draws demand curves showing the quantity desired at all possible prices. Similarly you can only *observe* that you chose a green jumper, but that doesn’t rule out the possibility that I was indifferent between the green one and the blue one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762264 128749292,128765158,2017-06-06 15:18:10,">>128764218 P.cool, but autistic as fuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762290 128749292,128765233,2017-06-06 15:18:50,"Grow the fuck up retards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KElTidGHT5Y",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762330 128749292,128765281,2017-06-06 15:19:11,">>128749292 Should make a discord for this",,Anonymous,1493365503934.jpg,XG+/glZIa2v+5lO0BWuijA==,US,,1496762351 128749292,128765304,2017-06-06 15:19:21,">>128764915 >>128765000 >>128765027 >>128765074 >>128765108",,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,GB,,1496762361 128749292,128765324,2017-06-06 15:19:33,">>128749425 BTFO NAZI!!! Antifa takes care of violent nazi during Portland rally https://youtube.com/watch?v=sUsvF_eHBdA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762373 128749292,128765552,2017-06-06 15:21:43,">>128765233 >skip through video >(((Ayn Rand))) in thumbnail >Gary ""Bake cake for niggers while I make the state bigger"" Johnson We don't support any of those people.",,Anonymous,bake_that_cake.png,5veZO4dkaYvo1XZb31sSsQ==,GB,,1496762503 128749292,128765713,2017-06-06 15:23:04,">>128765281 The links in the op you just gotta put it together because Mook thinks it's spam.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762584 128749292,128765852,2017-06-06 15:24:16,">>128765552 Traps aren't fucking gay retard fuck you I can like them https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26498424/ CONCLUSIONS: Results provide clear evidence that GAMP men are not homosexual. They also indicate that GAMP men are especially likely to eroticize the idea of being a woman.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762656 128749292,128765968,2017-06-06 15:25:12,">>128763823 I like that idea. Can you go in more detail? What books did you have in mind?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762712 128749292,128766135,2017-06-06 15:26:31,">>128761807 Capitalism and Freedom by Ayn Rand is a good start. It includes her essays on Man's Rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762791 128749292,128766246,2017-06-06 15:27:28,">>128765233 >Wake up sheeple! So deep.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496762848 128749292,128767261,2017-06-06 15:35:29,">>128765713 Link is expired.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496763329 128749292,128767818,2017-06-06 15:39:50,">>128767261 I'm trying to generate a new one but...",,Anonymous,file.png,tdUpWoh4xUpL5biGfT6PRw==,GB,,1496763590 128749292,128767860,2017-06-06 15:40:12,">>128767261 >>128767261 Discord (Dot) GG then that code should work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496763612 128749292,128767957,2017-06-06 15:40:53,">>128767261 >>128767818 discord gg BTJwVkf",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496763653 128749292,128769661,2017-06-06 15:55:43,"Reporting in from the meme land. (I know Sulík used to be a libcuck, now (((they))) call him a nazi, kek)",,Anonymous,sulík.png,FPTBv+0GdS1qHjdF0SJZIg==,SK,,1496764543 128749292,128771095,2017-06-06 16:08:02,Who is your favorite senator and why is it Rand Paul?,,Anonymous,Rand_2cool4you.jpg,8tcnPR9v/jd7iKZ2KpcVHw==,US,,1496765282 128749292,128771159,2017-06-06 16:08:40,">>128765852 You're gay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496765320 128749292,128771439,2017-06-06 16:10:33,">>128764493 You don't own all the property in the US. Under your logic, any US citizen is free to go on the property of any other US citizen. Not how it works. Better analogy would be.... allowing a Mexican family of 65 to go to the local shopping mall.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496765433 128749292,128772083,2017-06-06 16:15:57,">>128771439 Have the borders closed by default, allow the invited in only. Let the property owners decide.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496765757 128749292,128772086,2017-06-06 16:15:57,"Whats your opinion on the U.S. Constitution /lrg/? Its essentially a document made by capitalist for a capitalist society. >To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; Can't bullshit with fake worthless money >To establish Post Offices and post Roads; Has to build and maintain roads to maintain commerce. >To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries; Can't steal and abuse others ideas/works >To provide and maintain a Navy; Protect overseas trades Then there the fact that those involved in its making were all businessmen in different sectors. Its pretty much the reason why the United States is as great as it is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496765757 128749292,128772201,2017-06-06 16:16:51,">>128772086 It's pretty fucking good, if only it mattered to the state. There is no constitution anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496765811 128749292,128772292,2017-06-06 16:17:34,">>128765233 advocates for welfare. sounds republican.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496765854 128749292,128772712,2017-06-06 16:20:54,">>128772083 that's what we're doing now. doesn't work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496766054 128749292,128773120,2017-06-06 16:24:29,">>128772201 The thing is, it gives states a lot of freedoms through Amendment 10 in the Bill of Rights. The thing is states are fucking retarded with their powers and tend to steal the rights of their citizens for their state agenda. Such as states have 100 plus amendments for many specific things.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496766269 128749292,128773122,2017-06-06 16:24:31,">>128772712 That's because the borders aren't closed. We let anyone walk in and only deport them if they commit crimes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496766271 128749292,128773228,2017-06-06 16:25:21,">>128765233 >The young cucks. Into the trash it goes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496766321 128749292,128774010,2017-06-06 16:31:54,"I know this is exactly the sort of pedantry that we should try to avoid, but it could really benefit us to find a specific banner to fly rather than the general ""Libertarian"" which could include any number of left libertarians or slight-right libertarians. Saying ""I'm a Hoppean Libertarian"" or ""I'm a Capitalist"" just doesn't cut it. The fact that we have to specifically say in the OP that leftists and cake bakers need to fuck off is a good signifier that our movement isn't clearly defined enough. You drive politics with support, and support is garnered through a clear message and a driving incentive - we have the incentive, commie fuckwits undermining our freedoms and community, we need a message that says ""Freedom above all else but that doesn't necessarily mean foresake the community"" which is a mistake I see a lot of people make when considering libertarianism. Hoppe explains it well but not everyone is familiar with Hoppe, and our message needs to be clear and concise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496766714 128749292,128774744,2017-06-06 16:38:06,">>128774010 The more you leave normalization, the less people will want to associate with you. If we head too far from center and label us as such. People are not going to be willing to join. Even in major parties of Democrat and Republican there is in fighting among separate groups in those. In places such as the United States it has become more of a progressive vs conservative among the general population. Being Libertarian is hard because we can be shoved around as many have both progressive and conservative ideals to how society should be as many don't see the Authoritarian v. Liberty as much these days.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496767086 128749292,128774923,2017-06-06 16:39:13,">>128774010 I feel you, the only issue with that is getting all our people to identify with a new label. Hoppe and Rothbard are right Libertarians. I don't think we have the reach for that, but we could try if we have an edgy and cool enough title to rock.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496767153 128749292,128775013,2017-06-06 16:39:53,">>128774010 Anarcho capitalism seems like a good banner to gather behind. It is an excellent deterrent for pseudo libertarians and lefties who'd either be repulsed by its non debatable take on the free market or see it as too extreme. Minarchists and other right wing libertarians who actually have potential on the other hand won't be scared away that easily and could stick around. In my experience, they'll adapt more and more viewpoints of the ideology over time, since AnCap is the logical extreme to their ideology.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496767193 128749292,128775258,2017-06-06 16:41:58,">>128775013 >Anarcho Capitalism should be the banner. The thing is a lot don't feel the whole Anarchist side of that belief. I think its a means to show how ideal society can be but in reality it just would not sit well with the masses. Mainly due to the fact that Anarchism is viewed as more degenerate then being super liberal or conservative.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496767318 128749292,128775300,2017-06-06 16:42:26,">>128774744 The thing is though, we need an image to clearly describe an idea. The ""libertarian but with a sense of community"" is not a known quality in main stream politics, and since there's no label that invokes that set of values, they don't find their way into main stream discourse. When I say ""this system needs to be governed by a monarchy-like state"", you understand immediately what that means, the baggage that comes with it, and the history behind the term. This is an extreme example but I think it shows what I mean best. It wouldn't necessarily be a running platform.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496767346 128749292,128775330,2017-06-06 16:42:40,">>128773122 >We let anyone walk in don't think so pancho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496767360 128749292,128775963,2017-06-06 16:47:39,">>128774010 It's next to impossible to separate ourselves from people like Gary Johnson. Even on /pol/ anti-libertarian posters will knowingly strawman us with quotes or policies from people like Austin Peterson. The problem is that the more ""pure"" libertarians can't regain control of the LP because our views don't fit into the overton window. If you were to say that the civil rights act should be repealed you'll be labeled a radical without anyone bothering to refute you.",,Anonymous,1485686057364.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1496767659 128749292,128776230,2017-06-06 16:49:44,">>128775258 The second you start to water down your beliefs and compromise you lose any credibility and invite everybody to further corrupt your platform. Just look at what happened to libertarian parties around the world. Aleppo Johnson, Macron and most libertarian parties here in Europe, all of them started adapting popular nonsense like ""social libertarianism"" Libertarians are against the government and once they realize that you can't justify even the smallest state or the lowest tax but only the abolishment of both, they'll ""feel the whole anarchist side"" If they don't, they are nothing more than the same lefties that fucked over our whole ideology.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496767784 128749292,128776552,2017-06-06 16:52:22,"On second thought. The rebranding is already happening. With /lrg/, physical removal and the like, even the LP is mentioning us (they hate us for being conservative lol)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496767942 128749292,128776770,2017-06-06 16:54:15,">>128775963 Please read this thoroughly before replying, I'm not advocating abandoning libertarianism as an ideology Then we don't call ourselves Libertarians so readily. We know what Libertarian means, but to the general American, Libertarian means Aleppo Johnson. It makes us fall into the ""not REAL libertarianism!"" trap. If we took a label though, XYZ, and a 4 point list of values, say, 1. Free Market 2. Small State 3. Large Community! 4. Personal Responsibility And just hammered that label with those values, label values label values label values label values, threads to create imagery for it, imagery label values imagery label values imagery label values, so on and so forth, we could divorce ourselves from what Libertarianism has been made to mean and state our values strongly. People will be heavier or lighter on these values in different ways, and in the end of the day it is a distinct form of libertarianism, but in a conversation you can say ""I have a lot of XYZ values"" and it makes the delivery of that message so much easier.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496768055 128749292,128776903,2017-06-06 16:55:20,>>128762823,,Anonymous,1491617931417.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,GB,,1496768120 128749292,128777059,2017-06-06 16:56:42,">>128775300 A other understanding is that in the U.S. and most of the western society. People love to be part of groups without much care as long as that group share at least most of their ideas however they also take into concern how people will view them if they associate with that group. There people who don't care about this but the majority of them do take this with great consideration in order to fit in and get along with others. The reason why Libertarian has become what it is that a bunch of freaks got into the system and tainted it. This taint has been enough to make those who hold more conservative values turn away from it as well as the absurdity of it turns away progressives as well. A split in the party towards being more sane and rational would greatly cause support but at the same time the majority of people are either not interested enough or lack the knowledge to understand the beliefs of the party itself. We would need to consider some changes that would better suit or make it easier to understand. Removal is the last option we could ever use. >>128776230 Refer to post above mostly. Also not most of us are against the government to the same degree as Anarchism. Most would want a reduction of how the government has taken its places in the lives of its citizens and preventing people from doing what they want as long as they don't hurt others. This can be shown further as cities and places are implementing getting a business license as such and not letting a person common sense to choose who to do business with. The issue at hand is that government can do could and help stimulate better economy and insure it works as smooth as possible but it has just been corrupted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496768202 128749292,128777094,2017-06-06 16:56:59,">>128776770 Paleolibertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496768219 128749292,128777275,2017-06-06 16:58:27,">>128777094 Paleolibertarian. It's what Rothbard called himself, and it's what I call myself",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,kjzv7W5jKnSx19ggmzlUag==,US,,1496768307 128749292,128777664,2017-06-06 17:01:28,">>128777094 This just shows where these pitfalls can lie, I don't think paleolibertarianism accurately describes the entirety of what we're trying to do here. I'm not a creative, I'm a systems man. WE know what we are and what we want, we need talented individuals to package this concept so we can show people. We need a distinct term and image to rally behind, because as it stands, we look a lot like ""my specific brand of libertarianism is best"". Think how Nazism transcends simple fascism - the label, the image, the ideals are all so distinct that calling the Nazi party simply fascists is not descriptive enough.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496768488 128749292,128778170,2017-06-06 17:05:36,">>128765233 >The Young Turks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496768736 128749292,128778183,2017-06-06 17:05:43,">>128777664 I think Rothbards Paleolibertarian literature explains perfectly what I am. I don't know what you stand for but liberty and holding yourself to a high standard is what I'm all about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496768743 128749292,128780042,2017-06-06 17:20:26,,,Anonymous,conductor_someone_is_treading_on_me.jpg,SqZNEUWc2O0yjDKPvR1FWQ==,GB,,1496769626 128749292,128781661,2017-06-06 17:32:53,"What do any of ya'll think about community libertarianism? I think that communitarianism has a lot of potential for us to take back our liberty, and it gives us the best mode for true libertarian form governments and associations. The best way to advocate for such would be to demand our freedom of association. We must assert that we do not wish to live with degeneracy and that to do so is infringing upon our lives and rights (which it is). We have to advocate for degeneracy to go and live with degeneracy and not encroach upon our communities. These (((peoples))) would be able to live and do whatever the fuck they want in their own degenerate associations and communities, while we would have peace of mind to prepare for the worst and live for the best.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496770373 128749292,128782064,2017-06-06 17:35:48,">>128781661 Communitarianism is pretty much the end goal. Self sufficient communities free of any regulations from above. To achieve that you need to slowly gain more and more freedom, though. Doing that over night would lead to a collapse of the whole system. We need to secceed into smaller and smaller regions, step by step. Supporting seperatism and regionalism is a good start, since both significantly weaken the state by literally making it smaller.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496770548 128749292,128784150,2017-06-06 17:52:14,">>128766135 >>128776903 Thank you!",,Anonymous,the ok argument.png,eldo7byu8nMeN59OQkZo9g==,IT,,1496771534 129047924,129047924,2017-06-08 13:46:59,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - ANTICOM EDITION,Anonymous,hoppe pol logo.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,SK,,1496929619 129047924,129048016,2017-06-08 13:47:42,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,lrg immigration.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,SK,,1496929662 129047924,129048132,2017-06-08 13:48:23,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1496929703 129047924,129048274,2017-06-08 13:49:23,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,lrg tiers.jpg,Ih5kYEktvivoO7oz5G1xhQ==,SK,,1496929763 129047924,129048321,2017-06-08 13:49:41,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,do it for hoppe.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,SK,,1496929781 129047924,129048387,2017-06-08 13:50:10,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI",,Anonymous,free ride left side.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,SK,,1496929810 129047924,129048451,2017-06-08 13:50:38,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1496929838 129047924,129049224,2017-06-08 13:56:14,fucking sleeping faggots REEEEEEE,,Anonymous,pissed off ancapball.png,GV8cJqYI+PQ8K3WD7f35kw==,SK,,1496930174 129060975,129060975,2017-06-08 15:19:38,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >Nick Land: The Dark Enlightenment - Neo-Reaction and Modernity https://youtu.be/oAT14h5_lMo >Free Private Cities https://youtu.be/gb8nJauOq_8 >Tom Woods: Are Private Cities in our Future? https://youtu.be/picMiUhVfH4 >Mencius Moldbug - Patchwork http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.pt/2008/11/patchwork-positive-vision-part-1.html?m=1","/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: NO VOICE, FREE EXIT EDITION",Anonymous,1491259332524.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,PT,,1496935178 129060975,129061081,2017-06-08 15:20:25,Learn basic economics,,Anonymous,economics101.jpg,+v3g4DosWvCbFRo4azCNyA==,GB,,1496935225 129060975,129061265,2017-06-08 15:21:51,"FAQ -- Every question you could have about Anarcho-capitalism, answered in one single book. https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/ >Why reactionary libertarianism and not Fascism? Introduction >How would ancaps deal with cultural Marxists and other subversive attitudes? Chapters 4 and 5 >But about what about limited government and constitutions? Chapters 6 and 7 >But what about the poor, the sick and the elderly? Chapter 10 >You guys are globalists and support open borders right? Chapter 13 >Without the state regulating the market, who will stop corporations? Chapters 3 and 9 >Okay, you've convinced me. Now what do we do? Chapters 11, 12, 14 and 15.",,Anonymous,Reactionary+Liberty+front+cover+v12.png,KfpCT/+OV61rob7d4Ir6TQ==,PT,,1496935311 129060975,129061343,2017-06-08 15:22:21,">>129061081 Learn to fly",,Anonymous,1495371802730.jpg,d9GFGY1Y+gt+6L78F2Xijg==,PT,,1496935341 129060975,129061718,2017-06-08 15:25:05,">>129061343 >dictatorships are freedom as long as they're supporting the free market Dumb goy",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496935505 129060975,129062279,2017-06-08 15:28:53,">>129061081 >Basic economics >Posts a strawman about Austrian school >Claims value is created through labor Holy shit you're dumb.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1496935733 129060975,129062750,2017-06-08 15:32:09,">>129061718 Indeed, having a strongman who frees markets and hangs commies is better than a democracy.",,Anonymous,1495882791455m.jpg,IxayFqENPDGJci2auhZgxw==,PT,,1496935929 129060975,129064896,2017-06-08 15:47:15,Bump with reading list,,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,PT,,1496936835 129060975,129065113,2017-06-08 15:48:39,Is it true you guys are all open border faggots who care more about nirubu then actual politics?,,Anonymous,1496852551133.gif,VEUUAdUsDdL+nuV1KFfVPA==,US,,1496936919 129060975,129065309,2017-06-08 15:50:05,">>129065113 no",,Anonymous,covenant_aesthetic.jpg,c4E24JKB2goVPre5AzPJ2Q==,GB,,1496937005 129060975,129066276,2017-06-08 15:57:17,">>129064896 >Helicopter pilots hand book",,Anonymous,1457501222581.gif,IHNKB70slGve52BJJT4MXQ==,US,,1496937437 129060975,129066672,2017-06-08 16:00:08,">>129065113 Lol no MJ.",,Anonymous,1486501317082.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1496937608 129060975,129067212,2017-06-08 16:03:45,">>129064896 >>129061265 Petition to add this to the reading list. Counter arguments for >B-but socialism works in Norway!",,Anonymous,91ltNykiQHL[1].jpg,xR0sw4UBxAD4pMUt+Uev5g==,BR,,1496937825 129060975,129068608,2017-06-08 16:13:22,">>129067212 Thanks for sharing it Brazilbro.",,Anonymous,1495324292206.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,PT,,1496938402 129060975,129068680,2017-06-08 16:13:48,">>129060975 bump from a Libertarian Pan-Marxist",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1496938428 129060975,129069459,2017-06-08 16:18:56,">>129068608 Tom Woods interviewed the author. Give it a listen and see if it interests you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9WOMQMkMQc",,Anonymous,hqdefault[1].jpg,bz+FdyTlIMrv/5P3W271XA==,BR,,1496938736 129060975,129070325,2017-06-08 16:25:05,">>129068680 What?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496939105 129060975,129070491,2017-06-08 16:26:19,">>129060975 Hey portubro mises.org has my Mises pepe! Can't post the link. Just look up ""Mises understood meme magic""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496939179 129060975,129071016,2017-06-08 16:29:50,">>129070491 Kek I saw that article and immediately thought of you Anon. Wonder how far Tho Bishop had to go to get it. Well done friend, our efforts have paid off. Now we just have to get Maltabro to tell Hoppe later this year to look up his memes on the Internet.",,Anonymous,1494204773494m.jpg,rrjdfCblopbAG7edEPbMYQ==,PT,,1496939390 129060975,129071297,2017-06-08 16:31:49,">>129070491 >>129071016 https://mises.org/blog/mises-understood-meme-magic",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1496939509 129060975,129071506,2017-06-08 16:33:20,">>129060975 >tfw you violate the NAP by sexually assaulting your hand with your dick >tfw the only course of action is to counter assault your dick with your hand",,Anonymous,TUNNEL SNAKES RULE.jpg,6gC4fZpl+mccewrKeqUemA==,US,,1496939600 129060975,129072030,2017-06-08 16:36:53,,,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1496939813 129060975,129072087,2017-06-08 16:37:15,"Of course some faggot had to join in and say ""hey guise you shouldn't be with these people! Come join the cool kids at the LP!"" Props to the guy who wrote the reply. Also which one of you British anons is the Capitalist Memelord? Love your stuff mate, stay safe after Aunt May wins and shuts down the Internet.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170608-213441.jpg,vzqI8LRJNkAi3yayvDzELQ==,PT,,1496939835 129060975,129072974,2017-06-08 16:43:30,">>129072087 >Muh alt right. Every time I hear Libertarians complain about this almost non existent group I go into maximum over cringe mode.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496940210 129060975,129073589,2017-06-08 16:47:28,>>129060975,,Anonymous,autistic-screeching5.png,WSZg12OFvsp/zw/8/lCENg==,CA,,1496940448 129060975,129073770,2017-06-08 16:48:40,">>129073589 you cant support a white state if there is no state",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496940520 129060975,129073882,2017-06-08 16:49:23,">>129072974 Me too. They're libertarians because they want to live in heroin filled slums and have sex with children, not because they want to raise a family without the state shoving multicultural crap down their throats. If Rothbard were alive, he'd most likely urge us to embrace the alt right adn perhaps even make it bigger and turn it into a real counterculture. Hopefully based God Hoppe understands this and endorses it later this year during his speech.",,Anonymous,1494374271057.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,PT,,1496940563 129060975,129073890,2017-06-08 16:49:29,">>129073589 Nations not nation-states.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496940569 129060975,129073913,2017-06-08 16:49:39,">>129073770 >an actual kike You know this only supports the meme, right.",,Anonymous,Juden.jpg,08MEKDomj4Qrl1zGjN6SOw==,CA,,1496940579 129060975,129074124,2017-06-08 16:51:03,">>129073913 i mean for real how can you be for a white state if you are an anarchist",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1496940663 129060975,129074190,2017-06-08 16:51:29,">>129073890 >>129073770 Ethno nationalism implies that your race is your nation. Its like white nationalists, thats just another word for white ethnic nationalists. It also would imply a belief that any libertarian society would need to be ethnically homogeneous.",,Anonymous,wotanism.jpg,7JL9ANktYUmc4IO+HM4u6A==,CA,,1496940689 129060975,129074435,2017-06-08 16:52:48,">>129074124 Anarchists arent libertarian, thats anarchism. Anarchists are the type of people who are in Antifa. Bikelockfaggot was literally part of an anarchist group, on top of Antifa. Cancer kike tries to subvert libertarian right thread into anarchist antifa garbage, news at 11.",,Anonymous,merchant73.png,a5oC8669qxHrhXsyxaYDhQ==,CA,,1496940768 129060975,129074517,2017-06-08 16:53:19,Greetings Friends. How are we doing this afternoon?,,Anonymous,Ancap_Maryland_3.jpg,jAu8PsgucJkzlk9veoZnfQ==,US,,1496940799 129060975,129074759,2017-06-08 16:54:34,">>129061081 >value through labor topkek value is the sum of raw material in production",,Anonymous,1489386648911.png,z8YUSebI0F4XcAmrMs7HbQ==,US,,1496940874 129060975,129075208,2017-06-08 16:57:07,">>129074190 Doesn't nationalism alone Imply an ethnic group as well as culture? Either way I'm down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496941027 129060975,129075434,2017-06-08 16:58:17,">>129074517 Very well my snippery friend.",,Anonymous,1493026316916.png,Yu1ZHueNGESOb9WnP7Gazw==,PT,,1496941097 129060975,129075630,2017-06-08 16:59:15,">>129073882 I try to tell em that, they just call me a fascist and tell me Rothbard wanted everyone to be a junkie pedo. Fuck em.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496941155 129060975,129077001,2017-06-08 17:06:04,">>129075434 Very good!",,Anonymous,Rand_2cool4you.jpg,8tcnPR9v/jd7iKZ2KpcVHw==,US,,1496941564 129060975,129077222,2017-06-08 17:07:13,">pretend to be ancap >actually ego-anarchist",,Anonymous,1496878711449.jpg,M53nR8Uqz9SPnpfP+90auQ==,US,,1496941633 129060975,129077820,2017-06-08 17:10:15,">>129077222 >Pretend to be AnCap >Announce that you're not AnCap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496941815 129060975,129078766,2017-06-08 17:14:40,">>129061081 Haha wtf marxism is so retarded. Nobody is forcing you to work for anybody else, you can just start your own business. Oh but wait you are a nigger and think all work is slavery. Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496942080 129060975,129078914,2017-06-08 17:15:18,">>129061265 I gotta actually sit down and read this thing. I keep saying I will but so far I'm full of shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496942118 129060975,129079203,2017-06-08 17:16:42,">>129075630 Kek I remember writing a long ass post about how a free market in children would lower abuse and provide satisfaction for all parties to some Swedish cuck.",,Anonymous,1493839398072m.jpg,kMDxm3rM6JXP3AnF1nch0g==,PT,,1496942202 129060975,129079785,2017-06-08 17:19:49,">>129073882 According to the heritage foundation, the current freest market in the anglosphere is New Zealand followed by Australia. These two countries also hold number 3, and number 5 worldwide. I love the idea of being the change you want to see, but I think we need to build a stronger base in these areas where the change we want to see is happening.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496942389 129060975,129080257,2017-06-08 17:22:22,"STOP BEING HOPPEPHOBIC https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/murray-n-rothbard/hoppephobia/",,Anonymous,Lewposting.jpg,uddMsf/u7NcLyyLphf3F5g==,US,,1496942542 129060975,129080683,2017-06-08 17:24:31,">>129080257 shit, rothbard wrote that. I'll save the lewposting for another time.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,kjzv7W5jKnSx19ggmzlUag==,US,,1496942671 129060975,129081154,2017-06-08 17:27:10,">>129079785 I agree. As time goes by I start to wonder whether or not I should leave this country and go live to New Zealand, Singapore or Hong Kong in the future. I think Singapore would be my ideal home if it were a corporate government and not a state: The only things I dislike about it are HBD flats, and Healthcare and media regulation. Otherwise it seems top tier, plus all the gooks there are westernized.",,Anonymous,1490294013645.jpg,eRJvmmQKqYQhpJd5Ng9CcQ==,PT,,1496942830 129060975,129082264,2017-06-08 17:33:21,">>129081154 My brother's friend Jordan teaches English in China and whenever he comes home to D.C. he always tell us, ""I feel more free in china than I do here."" The reason I suggest Australia or New Zealand predominately is because of the similarity of culture and the fact that it is the least likely place to be bombed assuming that nukes go off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496943201 129060975,129082924,2017-06-08 17:37:03,">>129082264 I see what you mean. New Zealand is also high on my list since I like lots of nature and wilderness plus the Anglo presence. Are people uncucked there? As regards to China, I don't have a strong opinion on it but those Liveleak videos of the gooks boiling dogs alive and running over people with their cars plus the Final Destination death traps in the streets make me anxious.",,Anonymous,1475621880071.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1496943423 129060975,129084406,2017-06-08 17:44:57,I think maybe Lew Rockwell wrote ron pauls newsletters. Maybe Ron didn't rat him out because Lew was involved in his campaign. No conclusive evidence. Still no newsletters.,,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,US,,1496943897 129060975,129084513,2017-06-08 17:45:34,">>129082924 Currently in New Zealand the government is run by the NZ National Party, whom are described to have a Conservative/Classical Liberal core with a 47% backing of the people. Currently the main issues are medical cannabis and euthanasia. Number two is the Labour party with a 23% backing. With regards to china, that's the most western parts usually. Areas close to the border. On the coast or just in the east in general all roads have broken cameras that the Chinese people think work when in reality they don't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496943934 129060975,129085469,2017-06-08 17:50:22,">>129077222 >The union would not take any authority over any of its member’s own wills, and by definition depends on its members participating out of conscious egoism. All forms of egoism are spooks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1496944222 129060975,129085916,2017-06-08 17:52:50,">>129061081 >all value is created through labor unironically kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1496944370 129060975,129086790,2017-06-08 17:57:49,">>129084513 Good to know my friend. I'll have to look up New Zealand a bit more and see how the climate is to get a better perspective. I like a small government and in terms of environment I like either mountainous and prairie like terrain (think Switzerland or Liechtenstein) or tropical resort type.",,Anonymous,1488221828351.jpg,xPYHlnJ8Byb5vByoB1jjBA==,PT,,1496944669 129157032,129157032,2017-06-09 01:25:19,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/SSK9Zyp7",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1488455466717.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1496971519 129157032,129157207,2017-06-09 01:26:55,"GENERAL READING LIST: >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition - Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberalism%20In%20the%20Classical%20Tradition_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Man, Economy, and State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/system/tdf/Man%2C%20Economy%2C%20and%20State%2C%20with%20Power%20and%20Market_2.pdf?file=1&type=document >Anatomy of the State https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Egalitarianism%20as%20a%20Revolt%20Against%20Nature,%20and%20Other%20Essays_2.pdf",,Anonymous,1488453220767.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,US,,1496971615 129157032,129158114,2017-06-09 01:35:15,,,Anonymous,1491259062346.png,dme0JYbDUWOnKUIXUEtlnQ==,US,,1496972115 129174357,129174357,2017-06-09 04:45:50,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - MI GENERAL EDITION,Anonymous,libertypol.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,SK,,1496983550 129174357,129174808,2017-06-09 04:51:53,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,1495999594495m.jpg,YAYhAGjsnwcizU3I9+Gv7w==,SK,,1496983913 129174357,129174924,2017-06-09 04:53:19,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,reading list lrg.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,SK,,1496983999 129174357,129175104,2017-06-09 04:55:42,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,rothbard degeneracy.jpg,zAHckILGOP16Ixe9IwgYZg==,SK,,1496984142 129174357,129175235,2017-06-09 04:57:11,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,libertarian degradation.jpg,7g1XBZvSMdm5PbWTSlci0w==,SK,,1496984231 129174357,129175285,2017-06-09 04:57:56,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI",,Anonymous,roblox compass.jpg,sJ/I0cKG8Qe0xS0GlrPkUg==,SK,,1496984276 129174357,129175330,2017-06-09 04:58:31,">>129174357 ancaps are fucking retarded and capitalism only works up to a point (it no longer works in modern society) debate me right wing retards",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496984311 129174357,129175350,2017-06-09 04:58:47,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,NUKE THOSE WHO INSULT ROTHBARD.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,SK,,1496984327 129174357,129175567,2017-06-09 05:01:35,">>129175330 >right-wing >retards Anything not right-wing is wrong-wing. Capitalism with no government interference is the natural order, a hierarchy established through division of labour. Konkin was wrong and Marx was much, much worse than that. Take tghe yellow pill.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496984495 129174357,129175968,2017-06-09 05:07:08,">>129175567 profit maximization leads to the degeneracy we see in modern societies. Advertising and marketing (look up edward bernays) leads to a population controlled by the corporations, and leads to destruction of real culture and replacement with consumer culture. on top of that, immigration and the destruction of a racially unified nation is what occurs naturally in capitalist societies, the economic powers that be will profit from immigration, which lowers wages, providing cheaper labour, and also increases the number of consumers that the economic elites can profit off. Divide and conquer, in a way. sure capitalism is good in its early stages, but it goes real south real fucking quick.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496984828 129174357,129176408,2017-06-09 05:13:21,">>129175968 That's why you oven those who advocate for anything that goes against the rules of your covenant.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1496985201 129174357,129176715,2017-06-09 05:17:30,">>129176408 >That's why you oven those who advocate for anything that goes against the rules of your covenant. what by ""you"" do you mean my ideology? beause that would be wrong or by ""you"" do you mean one who advocates your ideology/capitalism, if so that isnt very anarcho-capitalist, more authoritarian corporatist, or socialist even.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496985450 129174357,129177441,2017-06-09 05:28:46,">>129176715 >what is the right of discrimination? Nobody can force you to tolerate unwanted people on your property/ in your gated community. If they try to get in anyway you are allowed to defend yourself and your property by force.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496986126 129174357,129178771,2017-06-09 05:46:45,">>129175235 Don't mention Georgism, m8. Do you want that autist spamming the thread again?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496987205 129174357,129179056,2017-06-09 05:50:33,">>129177441 ?? what the fuck how does this relate to consumer culture or profitable immigration you literally arent disproving anything that i say",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496987433 129174357,129179408,2017-06-09 05:55:24,">>129179056 Immigration is only possible into communities that want immigration. Private borders are a thing. If you want to flood your community with niggers, go ahead, but you can't force the same behaviour on a white nationalist gated community. And about the consumerism and dissolvement of culture: A community of degenerates consists of people that are a lost cause in either case. Traditional people will form communities that actually uphold culture and tradition, but they are only able to do this because they have the freedom of excluding people they see as unfit and damaging for their private society.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496987724 129174357,129179597,2017-06-09 05:57:56,">>129179408 >on a white nationalist gated community aka a white nationalist government ancapism is literally not a political ideology, it is lack of a political ideology, you solve all your problems by having another hypothetical ""Gated community"" pop up. ancapism is the same as any other form of anarchism, you are no better and no worse than ancoms. it makes no sense either way.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496987876 129174357,129179741,2017-06-09 06:00:16,">>129179408 what you seem to be actually advocating is decentralized governance, which is when the power comes from the lower levels of government up. see pic for a general gestalt",,Anonymous,1468748819220.png,0ls9TbejksQDLbXuk4zncg==,AU,,1496988016 129174357,129179942,2017-06-09 06:03:00,">>129179597 Other anarchists want anarchism for the sake of le fuck da rules, AnCaps want private, voluntarily run states. If everybody agrees with the terms of a gated community, nothing is wrong with it being basically a micronation. Anarcho capitalism advocates self governance, not the absolute lack of order. Why do you think AnCaps are hated by all the other ""anarchists""? We want the freedom to have voluntary order.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496988180 129174357,129180031,2017-06-09 06:04:12,>>129174357,,Anonymous,IMG_1855.jpg,0XRVNRjQm1Eid117ZiQ+Pw==,US,,1496988252 129174357,129180148,2017-06-09 06:05:54,">>129179942 thats not ancap then, ancap is what you have in the jungles of africa. what you speak of is just mass decentralization in government see previous post. Ancap as a label implies anarchy as the ideal, as the final goal. Not a starting point for then building a micronation or gated community on top of. >>129180031 >screenshotting memes",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496988354 129174357,129180196,2017-06-09 06:06:29,">>129179741 See here >>129179942. I never said something different. I want small, local governments, that have to compete for inhabitants. You are a social conservative? Look for a conservative community you agree with. Sure, it basically is a government, but nobody is forced into it and you always have an alternative. It's actually comparable to the many city states in medieval times.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496988389 129174357,129180334,2017-06-09 06:08:16,">>129180148 It's just semantics. If you want you can call it Hoppe libertarianism. It is AnCap, but a specific way of running it in reality.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1496988496 129174357,129180730,2017-06-09 06:13:40,">>129180196 then that isnt ancap as a political philosophy, thats decentralization ancap, perhaps, can be the means to achieve this goal, a starting point, but what comes after ancap is what is really important. also i dont think having an ancap society is a realistic goal in the modern world, the world is currently too interconnected for an ancap society to last long enough to produce a real ""ancap nation"" the UN would just call it human rights abuse and invade and inject freedom. A better goal is to advocate for states' rights and the like. >>129180334 yes it is semantics but its unclear when people are talking about ancap and implying it as an ideal, just say decentralized government, much clearer and does not imply anarchy.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1496988820 129174357,129180790,2017-06-09 06:14:16,Where does LRG stand in the Spandrell triangle?,,Anonymous,Spandrells triangle.png,GS+VIiWPB1uCg8yHPAwmjg==,ES,,1496988856 129174357,129183024,2017-06-09 06:43:00,Friedman should be /pol/-approved,,Anonymous,milton-friedman-485239.jpg,ourHUw3YuxHAAzTevZkG6w==,BG,,1496990580 129233013,129233013,2017-06-09 14:47:11,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >/lrg/ Chatroom discord /BTJwVkf",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_lrg.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,GB,,1497019631 129233013,129233252,2017-06-09 14:49:09,Best damn thread on /pol/ only NEETs and lazy Nogs oppose hard work and capitalism.,,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1497019749 129233013,129233387,2017-06-09 14:50:19,Pic related is the real reason why authoritarianfags fear capitalism.,,Anonymous,Wal_Mart_1.jpg,Jsi937Xz0U6y1JeMetf1Yw==,US,,1497019819 129233013,129233661,2017-06-09 14:52:22,Libertarianism is the true opposition to the ZOG.,,Anonymous,1495824504850.jpg,a4PBiO6dA3lGuhqtcANd3w==,US,,1497019942 129233013,129234085,2017-06-09 14:55:44,"How's my freedom loving, commie hating pals doing today?",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1497020144 129233013,129234185,2017-06-09 14:56:26,"discord /fsCd57 book club",,Anonymous,quote-it-is-no-crime-to-be-ignorant-of-economics-which-is-after-all-a-specialized-discipline-and-one-murray-rothbard-263126.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,US,,1497020186 129233013,129234389,2017-06-09 14:58:00,How are my based culturally conservative reactionary-tier champions of liberty doing today? Still ready for the counter-revolution against leftists and fascists?,,Anonymous,libertarianism_is_degenerate.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,GB,,1497020280 129233013,129234530,2017-06-09 14:59:11,">>129234389 We'll make em all pay, brother.",,Anonymous,9F1A9B07_A14B_4F25_A25D_76C15C067A1B_3061_000004786CB7E6C6.jpg,6dR2xQWwsYRHTncRCjVPHg==,US,,1497020351 129233013,129235745,2017-06-09 15:08:07,"so I know this is kind of a boring and unexciting topic, but AnCap and the Environment is something a lot of people are concerned about. A couple days ago I posted pic related, and the person I was replying it to said it was ok as a response. I'm wondering though, do you think the answer is good enough to be a consistent and valid stance for Anarcho-Capitalism in general everywhere? the environment is one of the few topics where I don't see very many other AnCaps agree on or don't know how to respond properly, which must be addressed eventually if we are to be taken seriously. I'm looking for feedback basically, we need to make it clear where we stand, why, and how it works",,Anonymous,ancap on environmentalism.png,8okDt9PV8fYSa+d06Dz67Q==,US,,1497020887 129233013,129235776,2017-06-09 15:08:21,,,Anonymous,HowToLibertopia.png,Au/jCXc9Dv1QW8SBcyMoAg==,US,,1497020901 129233013,129236003,2017-06-09 15:10:09,">>129234389 >When utopian, abstract philosophical idealism leads you straight back to traditional values, only now x1000 because they have a logically unassailable basis in rational ethics Who /Randian reactionary/ here?",,Anonymous,atlantis aint free 01.png,KdhOGLTChgjPiJOj3sWUfA==,ZA,,1497021009 129233013,129236481,2017-06-09 15:13:42,">>129236003 >Who /[denied by spam filter*]/ here? ftfy *Jew",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497021222 129233013,129236747,2017-06-09 15:15:42,">>129235745 Yes, I like that response. The most surefire way to ensure that any limited natural resource is not wasted is to privatize it. >Whales are being hunted to extinction >Privatize whales >Whaling companies put GPS transponders on pods of whales so they can track them, and paint them with the company logo >Companies have an interest in maintaining and growing their stock of whales, like cattle ranchers >Companies have an interest in protecting the whales they own from illegal predation Rinse and repeat for rhinos, rainforests, whatever the fuck you want",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1497021342 129233013,129237083,2017-06-09 15:18:04,>>129236481,,Anonymous,not an argument.jpg,qriastBkcssu1zSmV1zrWQ==,ZA,,1497021484 129233013,129237118,2017-06-09 15:18:21,">>129236003 >(((Ayn Rand)))",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497021501 129233013,129237233,2017-06-09 15:19:16,">>129236003 Could never into Rand to much, but I'd like to. instead /Reactionary Rothbardian Populist/ here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497021556 129233013,129237641,2017-06-09 15:22:08,">>129237233 p good desu though I prefer Hoppe to Rothbard, even if they are pretty close",,Anonymous,the_west_is_the_best.png,S+yqfcOC0Wj+9gR2snLXPA==,GB,,1497021728 129233013,129237729,2017-06-09 15:22:41,Liberals are nothing but banker/capitalist puppets. They hate freedom.,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497021761 129233013,129237967,2017-06-09 15:24:25,">>129237729 Classical liberals understood the need for personal liberty. Neoliberals are just dude open borders lmao",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497021865 129233013,129238100,2017-06-09 15:25:17,We commie hating in here?,,Anonymous,1496561475598.jpg,n3M6P7JPF51EZAS6cF0U2A==,US,,1497021917 129233013,129238679,2017-06-09 15:29:33,">>129237967 Could we work on finding out who funds the globalist liberals? Would give us much /pol/ street cred if we named the Jew that tries to bandwagon Libertarianism..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497022173 129233013,129238708,2017-06-09 15:29:51,">>129238100 Always hating commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497022191 129233013,129238720,2017-06-09 15:29:52,">>129237118 >But she advocates selfishness! How mean! >Her novels are badly written! >Only 14 year old fedoras could possibly take her seriously! >She hated socialism, but benefited from medicare! Lolberts BTFO! >But she's a JEW!11!!!!1 I love it when people ""argue"" like this. I wonder why they dare not take her on on intellectual grounds? Oh, yeah, because she'd annihilate them. >>129237233 Yeah, some of her stuff is hard to stomach, especially Atlas Shrugged, which is a philosophical manifesto disguised as a 1200 page novel. You should take a look at her essays, though. I actually think she's far better at non-fiction, argumentative writing. >The Virtue of Selfishness >Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal >Philosophy: Who Needs It? >The Anti-Industrial Revolution /comfy/ as fuck",,Anonymous,atlas.jpg,C4tSbfmLQQwz4Hbjk4lhZw==,ZA,,1497022192 129233013,129239113,2017-06-09 15:32:58,">>129236747 thanks and yes that seems like a good solution for whales or whatever else that needs to be conserved",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497022378 129233013,129239321,2017-06-09 15:34:34,">>129238679 We should start by finding the top donators to the LP, probably a proxy corporation, maybe with some names attached.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497022474 129233013,129239358,2017-06-09 15:34:53,">>129238720 Will do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497022493 129233013,129239433,2017-06-09 15:35:23,">>129238100 commie hating is always appropriate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497022523 129233013,129239444,2017-06-09 15:35:29,">>129233013 Wow. So many jews in that picture",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1497022529 129233013,129239620,2017-06-09 15:36:49,">>129239444 can you even name them all from memory?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497022609 129233013,129239881,2017-06-09 15:39:03,">>129239620 Ayn Rand Rothbard? Hayak Friedman?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1497022743 129233013,129239950,2017-06-09 15:39:33,,,Anonymous,Cucktarianism1.png,kJ3jFQ1zYmrf4jCvUYcanw==,BR,,1497022773 129233013,129240005,2017-06-09 15:39:59,,,Anonymous,Cucktarianism2.jpg,eF3uQJ4UENgUwimTAiMvvA==,BR,,1497022799 129233013,129240016,2017-06-09 15:40:04,">>129239881 There's also one I don't know. But he looks jewish",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1497022804 129233013,129240320,2017-06-09 15:42:25,">>129239881 Hayak ain't a Jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497022945 129233013,129240958,2017-06-09 15:47:12,">>129240320 My bad. Who's that bottom second to right with the stache? Anyway, Libertarianism seems to be judeo-germanic collaboration project.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1497023232 129233013,129241429,2017-06-09 15:51:15,">>129240958 Mises, he is a Jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497023475 129233013,129241584,2017-06-09 15:52:13,">>129240958 Ludwig von Mises, possibly the Austrian school's most prestigious economist. Wrote 'Human Action', the go-to authoritative work on uncucked economics",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1497023533 129233013,129241800,2017-06-09 15:53:57,">>129240005 Where the fuck do you think the money comes from in the first place? Oh, yes, that's right...CORPORATIONS. Dumb fucking lefties.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497023637 129233013,129242207,2017-06-09 15:57:01,">>129240005 >government paying private companies isn't proof private companies do good fuck off anprim",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497023821 129233013,129242836,2017-06-09 16:01:20,,,Anonymous,3.jpg,7u7A+2XdupwqLkKKs7JY8g==,BR,,1497024080 129233013,129242865,2017-06-09 16:01:38,"We made it boys https://mises.org/blog/mises-understood-meme-magic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497024098 129233013,129242905,2017-06-09 16:01:55,,,Anonymous,4.png,p4YmTWNCkhP0efZs/KDlQw==,BR,,1497024115 129233013,129242956,2017-06-09 16:02:15,">>129241800 Who do you think defends contracts? Capitalism is state sponsored-usury. Enjoy.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1497024135 129233013,129242963,2017-06-09 16:02:20,,,Anonymous,5.jpg,O7AhZVPum84CYRh0M5yzZg==,BR,,1497024140 129233013,129243103,2017-06-09 16:03:24,">>129242963 this but unironically",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497024204 129233013,129243266,2017-06-09 16:04:36,,,Anonymous,17388990_10155188064857264_3554594324893539697_o.jpg,QIUlHrnl9XullFQGYSXmPg==,IE,,1497024276 129233013,129243268,2017-06-09 16:04:37,">>129242836 What are you trying to say? You're anti-adoption for neglected children? You're for murdering children?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497024277 129233013,129243286,2017-06-09 16:04:47,">>129243103 what he said",,Anonymous,ancap grin.jpg,eRJvmmQKqYQhpJd5Ng9CcQ==,ZA,,1497024287 129233013,129243292,2017-06-09 16:04:52,">>129242865 Fucking sweet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497024292 129233013,129243354,2017-06-09 16:05:22,">>129243103 I concur.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497024322 129233013,129243455,2017-06-09 16:06:17,">>129242956 Your thinking fascist econ. Capitalism is in private hands only.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497024377 129233013,129243582,2017-06-09 16:07:15,">>129242836 Here's the bit of the quote you cropped out. >Superficially, this sounds monstrous and inhuman. But closer thought will reveal the superior humanism of such a market. For we must realize that there is a market for children now, but that since the government prohibits sale of children at a price, the parents may now only give their children away to a licensed adoption agency free of charge.This means that we now indeed have a child-market, but that the government enforces a maximum price control of zero, and restricts the market to a few privileged and therefore monopolistic agencies. The result has been a typical market where the price of the commodity is held by government far below the free-market price: an enormous ""shortage"" of the good. The demand for babies and children is usually far greater than the supply, and hence we see daily tragedies of adults denied the joys of adopting children by prying and tyrannical adoption agencies. In fact, we find a large unsatisfied demand by adults and couples for children, along with a large number of surplus and unwanted babies neglected or maltreated by their parents. Allowing a free market in children would eliminate this imbalance, and would allow for an allocation sf babies and children awayfiom parents who dislike or do not care for their children, and toward foster parents who deeply desire such children. Everyone involved: the natural parents, the children, and the foster parents purchasing the children, would be better off in this sort of society. >yfw literally arguing against something that already exists under the state",,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,GB,,1497024435 129233013,129243642,2017-06-09 16:07:39,">>129240005 How can people argue this and think they're smarter than someone else? Government is not inventing things, people are, all these inventors didn't apply for a company of the government, they were on their way to inventing something, then the government sent military to their houses/garages to obtain exclusive rights over this for military use, either that or the government taxed a company for X and gave them X / 2 in funds for an invention, they never break even. Government will obviously be the highest bidder, considering it has unlimited funds, and will force people to work for them anyway, because some things ""can't fall in the wrong hands"". Then delay things such as the commercialization of internet because they want to keep their military use away from the enemy. What we're not seeing, either, is how much money the government spends for a couple of success stories, and how much of that money could have been used for other inventions that we will never have because people are underfunded because of government intervention. Do inventions come from poor countries? Mostly not. Why? Because people are starving/have no funds to bring their ideas to reality/have shitty public education. No amount of state will ever guarantee inventions, inventions come exclusively from highly capitalized countries, even if the government funds them, they fund them with taxes of highly capitalized companies.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497024459 129233013,129244032,2017-06-09 16:10:42,">>129242956 A mutually agreed middleman? You want to do something for Peter, Peter wants you to do something, you sign a contract and expose it to a middleman to make sure both parties are satisfied or compensated. There's absolutely no need for a state in this equation.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497024642 129233013,129244267,2017-06-09 16:12:40,Why do ancaps think a prescriptive theory of property is more viable than a descriptive one?,,Anonymous,demonstratedproperty.jpg,V6OGLeJ3WICN0UzLar1q3g==,IE,,1497024760 129233013,129244806,2017-06-09 16:17:09,"Active Libertarian Right Telegram group: http://t.me/LibertarianRG Informational Libertarian Telegram Channel: http://t.me/LibertarianRight",,Anonymous,IMG_20170504_194116.jpg,9A+4UZMVslDYnIZeCHIyVQ==,US,,1497025029 129233013,129244942,2017-06-09 16:18:13,">>129242865 >it's real wew lad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497025093 129233013,129244959,2017-06-09 16:18:17,">>129244267 Explain? Always like debating this stuff. >Demonstrated property >based on observations of what people actually consider to be their property You can't establish a moral principle on public opinion. If I believe my TV belongs to me, but Jamal, LeDarius and their five siblings believe it belongs to them, who's right? Rights and moral principles have to have an objective basis in the facts of reality for them to have any meaning.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1497025097 129233013,129244985,2017-06-09 16:18:27,">>129244806 come to our discord too discord gg BTJwVkf",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497025107 129233013,129245246,2017-06-09 16:20:31,">>129242905 oh my god so bad i share my country with this socialist monkey",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1497025231 129233013,129245428,2017-06-09 16:21:55,">>129239950 muh i ""argue"" against libertarianism with unrealistic situations",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1497025315 129233013,129245495,2017-06-09 16:22:24,">>129243266 >let_me_change_some_definitions_around_ha_now_you're_wrong.smuggie A FUCKING POTATONIGGER",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497025344 129233013,129245560,2017-06-09 16:22:56,">>129244032 Who is that middle-man? What happens when I inevitably decide to not pay you up. Will the middle man rough me up? Does the middle-man has an army, a police force and lawyers?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1497025376 129233013,129246011,2017-06-09 16:26:17,">>129243455 You don't understand what the word usury means, do you? In it's vulgar form it's interest on a loan. Who enforces that interest? The state. It sponsors it with the threat of violence. Natsoc econ, actually is not usurious.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1497025577 129233013,129246591,2017-06-09 16:30:46,">>129245560 you just get blacklisted, excommunicated, and ostracized from trade or inclusion (i.e. from visiting certain property, expulsion). No violence, so you don't get roughed up or anything, no military or police will be out to get you if you cooperate non-violently in return sure this means you can just run off to fulfill short-term pleasures but in the long-term being excluded from everybody else will not help you sustain yourself. basically you starve if nobody sells you anything, because you've chosen not to be a trustworthy person worth selling or making deals with if you're acting like a cunt this is freedom from government, not from consequences. If you're gonna be an asshole, there can be penalties from your actions. If you DO get violent though (especially if you're starving and desperate for food but not willing to work for it), you can just get shot for breaking the NAP like the niggers you're sharing a mindset with a society that actually encourages responsibility, restraint, and self-control instead of outright physical brutality by whoever owns the bigger gun? oh no woe is me",,Anonymous,1493772502611.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,US,,1497025846 129233013,129246871,2017-06-09 16:32:55,">>129245246 I'm not a socialist, you retard. I advise you move to the United States if you love your jewish masters so much.",,Anonymous,3.png,bCF36lOS9X+fSEMUclYmOw==,BR,,1497025975 129233013,129246917,2017-06-09 16:33:22,">>129246011 Fair enough, however if the state is enforcing the interest it is not Capitalism. If the person taking the loan understands and agrees to the terms then it is at which point it's his own damn fault.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497026002 129233013,129246932,2017-06-09 16:33:31,">>129244959 >You can't establish a moral principle on public opinion It isn't public opinion - it's moral intuition, people will inevitably retaliate in some form for perceived violations of what they consider their property. If you look at the history of Europe as groups of warring families/tribes who eventually became more peaceful towards each other over time, you can detect the incentives they created in order to dissuade each other from constantly destroying/stealing what they considered their property. Retaliation spirals inevitably occurred before these families/tribes were able to prevent each other from violating the property of others, and the same happens today. Retaliation in some form will inevitably occur, so violations of that property should be codified in law (through common law) to obviously protect against future violations.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1497026011 129233013,129247691,2017-06-09 16:40:09,post your favourite quotes from pic related,,Anonymous,new_class_of_permanent_degenerates.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,GB,,1497026409 129233013,129248274,2017-06-09 16:45:19,">>129247691 >Egalitarianism in any form is incompatible with private property. I don't have a pic on hand, I might be a few words off.",,Anonymous,AntiEgalitarian.png,V1y9uZd3xbO7JUzlF8YhNQ==,US,,1497026719 129233013,129248536,2017-06-09 16:47:31,"Egalitarianism is immoral, only in death can we ever be equal.",,Anonymous,1496425174889.jpg,6mshl3Xcu+rFPdssYDlT/Q==,US,,1497026851 129233013,129248546,2017-06-09 16:47:38,">>129246871 dennying the free market and appealing to emotion, u seem pretty much a socialist to me",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1497026858 129233013,129248938,2017-06-09 16:51:05,">>129248274 I remember the quote, too. Upon searching it: >Egalitarianism, in every form and shape, is incompatible with the idea of private property. Private property implies exclusivity, inequality, and difference. And cultural relativism is incompatible with the fundamental----indeed foundational----fact of families and intergenerational kinship relations. Families and kinship relations imply cultural absolutism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497027065 129233013,129249123,2017-06-09 16:52:41,">>129233013 QUESTION: Does Bastiat's 'Broken Windows' parable only apply to economies at full capacity, because that's when Say's Law applies?",,Anonymous,Crashing this plane.gif,ZasXPj3pS5vwKSHpOu3olA==,US,,1497027161 129233013,129249358,2017-06-09 16:54:46,">>129246591 I've just received 10 million from fleecing you. And I have an estate I can live in quite comfortably. I'm willing to trade double for my neccesities and other goods. How are you going to prevent black market, from selling to me? Do they also get ostracized? Cause this will lead to parallel economy.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1497027286 129233013,129249409,2017-06-09 16:55:16,">>129248938 Thanks senpai.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497027316 129233013,129249574,2017-06-09 16:57:00,"QUESTION: Was the 3rd Reich an example of Hoppe's ""covenant society""?",,Anonymous,get_comfy.gif,44MReM2qv4PnfmJQ7dWvPA==,US,,1497027420 129233013,129249775,2017-06-09 16:58:40,">>129249358 Parallel economy of cheaters, swinders, and theives? That's fine, you can all rot together. Cheat each other I don't care, just stay far away from me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497027520 129233013,129250088,2017-06-09 17:01:31,">>129249574 It could have been. If the reich was rightfully belonging to the German people, which it was- I don't see a problem with removing the international Jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497027691 129233013,129251459,2017-06-09 17:12:49,">>129250088 >those eights Can it be? Does his spirit lurks this thread...?",,Anonymous,you_have_a_destiny.jpg,Ad4hfVhQSUiKhyoNaJeblw==,US,,1497028369 129233013,129251746,2017-06-09 17:15:25,">>129249574 hh = heil hitler hhh = hans hermann-hoppe coincidence? i think not",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497028525 129233013,129252616,2017-06-09 17:23:26,">>129251746 >hh = heil hitler >hhh = hans hermann-hoppe >coincidence? m-mind blown...",,Anonymous,protocols_of_goyim.jpg,uerch1+iE7wDfK6E6FEE6Q==,US,,1497029006 129233013,129253018,2017-06-09 17:26:46,">>129252616 >>129251746 >>129251459 It might seem edgy what I'm bout to say Close the borders and deport all the gays Minorities vote for bigger states So the way to smash the state is 1488 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI being liber/aryan/ is the way go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497029206 129233013,129253697,2017-06-09 17:32:50,,,Anonymous,1490022445734.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,US,,1497029570 129233013,129253772,2017-06-09 17:33:33,">>129235745 I like your response in pic related. The objection to it, in my opinion, lies with when companies will give a shit about the enviorment. Companies won't give a shit until there is little trees to sell. Until then, they will just rake in the money from the high demand while there is short supply. It wouldn't be until the supply is going near to nothing that some competitors will actually not have anything to sell. Until then, the business reality is that they are in a mindset to compete and dominate. If one company decides to ease up in a time where supply is diminishing, where it isn't scarce enough for other companies to miss out on supply, well you just lost a lot of money that the other company can take advantage to get ahead of you. And whose to care if no one knew it was them who ate your 3rd last chicken McNugget? In other words, to add onto your reasoning of >Good businesses are already environmentally clean and concerned my point is that not all businesses are good and are only looking out for their shareholders, even when if there is going to be a risk of shooting themselves. It only takes a few bad seeds to topple the house of cards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497029613 129233013,129255327,2017-06-09 17:46:49,">>129253772 When you dump waste in a private property society it must be on your own property or another person's property being that there is no ""public property"" Your only choices are to destroy your own property, destroy someone else's property without their consent (they will then seek reparation for this and probably fuck you up.) or strike a deal with someone else to manage your waste. It's very much disincentivized to pollute as the only place you could carelessly sprinkle toxic waste is your own property, making it unsellable, unuseable and no one wants to live in a toxic shithole. So it only hurts you.",,Anonymous,1488142212561.jpg,zGDxaE9nc/zJabg+7ToANQ==,US,,1497030409 129233013,129255583,2017-06-09 17:49:12,">>129253697 i love this song even if the guy singing it has a bit of a weak voice, lyrics are on point",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497030552 129233013,129255957,2017-06-09 17:52:19,">>129255327 >When you dump waste in a private property society it must be on your own property or another person's property being that there is no ""public property"" Your only choices are to destroy your own property, destroy someone else's property without their consent (they will then seek reparation for this and probably fuck you up.) or strike a deal with someone else to manage your waste. Would you say this line of reasoning will still hold for people who throw garbage out the window on the highway? I think the only reason why the highway isn't infested with trash is because of the law and the ticket that incentivizes not to do it. I get when you say >It's very much disincentivized to pollute as the only place you could carelessly sprinkle toxic waste is your own property, making it unsellable, unuseable and no one wants to live in a toxic shithole. So it only hurts you. But people do shit that hurts themselves in the long run and disregard the rules when no ones watching, especially when it doesn't directly affect you in the present. Hence my analogy with someone taking the third chicken nugget",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497030739 129233013,129256017,2017-06-09 17:52:54,">>129255583 the guys got almost 100 songs, his lyrics are hard as shit. He was on the Radical Agenda yesterday.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497030774 129233013,129257173,2017-06-09 18:03:10,">>129255957 >Would you say this line of reasoning will still hold for people who throw garbage out the window on the highway? Yes, The guy who owns that highway wants to keep it clear so people will want to use it. He's not gonna take kindly to people you dump shit on it. Now If he can't catch polluters before they pollute i'm sure he'll likely pay people to clean his highway anyhow. >But people do shit that hurts themselves People that do shit to hurt themselves don’t gain the capital to destroy large pieces of land. I think it's a fair assumption that people who are self-destructive aren’t productive enough to destroy the earth.",,Anonymous,1487517595986.png,OzgoRELPwbKylms0CnI8aA==,US,,1497031390 129233013,129257508,2017-06-09 18:06:06,">>129233013 Not only is Flanders hugely pro-/lrg/, our flag even has the same colors. Just saying.",,Anonymous,FLANDERS.jpg,QxBadjrcF8MR6Ik9YxWcAw==,NL,,1497031566 129233013,129257899,2017-06-09 18:09:23,"Lol check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497031763 129233013,129258425,2017-06-09 18:14:01,">>129242963 Option 1 >be given a fine >fail to pay the fine >be physically and violently removed and into a prison Option 2 >dont pick up the can >get your pay docked >earn slightly less, no force or violence involved You started making an argument and then killed it within the same image",,Anonymous,1494363683019.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,GB,,1497032041 129233013,129258782,2017-06-09 18:16:56,">>129258425 Why didn't you just pick up the can son?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497032216 129233013,129259091,2017-06-09 18:19:35,">>129258782 Already got the achievement.",,Anonymous,Done.png,y1LFZoFnPvu/TbzZAw7Pbg==,US,,1497032375 129233013,129259719,2017-06-09 18:24:34,,,Anonymous,Picarda.png,e+3YcsMzYN/r1v6szZuHYg==,US,,1497032674 129233013,129261818,2017-06-09 18:42:17,">>129257173 that was a great response, I didn't consider it like that. You seem to be very familiar with ancap. So in a related sense, how does ancap deal with monopolies without goverment intervention? I know friedman's response was to have free trade, but what if there are a competeting monopolies in other countries? I think this question is related because lets say there is a monopoly on the roads and the guy doesn't give a shit about cleaning it up, especially because he will lose money on it to keep up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497033737 129233013,129262278,2017-06-09 18:46:18,">>129233013 Hell yeh",,Anonymous,1493317706489.jpg,VPhYrP0SDMHzcrCyB5VGyA==,CA,,1497033978 129233013,129262502,2017-06-09 18:48:06,">>129261818 >How does ancap deal with monopolies without goverment intervention? Generally, we consider monopolies to be the result of government rather than from lack of it. Consider the current monopolistic situations in areas where the government highly regulates. To look at this from an praxeological perspective: a monopoly is company which suffers from no competition. The only way to prevent competitors from entering a field is to use force, and the state is the sole agency allowed to do so. Thus, without a state, as a company becomes unchallenged and it's prices rise and quality lowers, more profit is able to be made in providing a superiour service. The 'monopoly' is forced to lower it's prices and provide better services than it's competition to maintain it's position. To prelude any counter-arguments on a 'natural monopoly' - https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497034086 129233013,129262879,2017-06-09 18:51:10,">>129262502 thanks bong, I'll be sure to check that link out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497034270 129233013,129263086,2017-06-09 18:53:02,"While we are at it, I would like to talk about neoliberalism. It is non-existent, just like fascist it is a word with virtually no true meaning. There is not a single neoliberal thinker or school of tough or even a self-proclaimed politician who call himself this way, it was created by the left wing leaning academia just as a pejorative term. Usually they talk about neoliberalism as a thing that began in 70’s,80’s or 90’s (depending on the place in question), but if you look to the word you will see that neo stands for new or renovated and liberalism for the philosophical school of tough that stands with freedom of action, property and liberty, and its doesn’t make any sense. The wave that they describe of more privatization and more free market leaning economies it’s not really that much of a new wave of libertarian, they like to put Margaret Thatcher and Ronal Regan as “neoliberals” when they were too big spenders, Regan increase drastically the us debt, he was a conservative not a libertarian and Thatcher only libertarian action was against the unions, they loved to talk about freedom and the free market but it was all talk. Here in South America, the left try to put Fernando Henrique Cardoso (was our president in late 90’s, he was involved with the 1994 “Plano Real” the plan to create the currency we use nowadays to fight against the hyperinflation set in on the country since the 80’s) who is a self-described socialist as a neoliberal just because the state was broken at the time and he privatized a few state-run companies (he was one if not the biggest creator of regulatory agencies and so on but somehow he is a “neoliberal”) or Pinochet (for all the helicopter ride jokes an dictator cannot be libertarian or stand by its principles).",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1497034382 129233013,129263262,2017-06-09 18:54:55,">>129263086 Those government’s at their time, just looked, read a lit bit of libertarian authors, and proceeded to do the bare minimum to continuum making their country’s work. They were not a libertarian movement on government policies before those to deserve the “neo” prefix, the state interventionism, keynesianism and corporativism was well and fresh for decades (since the new deal in the Usa) until the never “expected” result of big government spending and massive debt set in, leading to decadence, inflation, stagnation and so on. Governments nowadays started going to the same route of what lead to the decline in those decades previous to “neoliberal” period (this too debunks the talk about small governments, its just like the belly of a pregnant woman, its will always growth), in the usa, in Europe, here they already took their toll, Brazil is suffering the biggest recession since 1929 with more than 15 million unemployed with the industries virtually dead and so on.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1497034495 129233013,129263594,2017-06-09 18:57:43,">>129263086 chill out my dude, did that irish communist/natsoc larper who uses that as a buzzword get you rustled? Just dismiss it, you don't have prove you're not a ""neo-liberal"" if you're not one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497034663 129233013,129263821,2017-06-09 18:59:31,">>129263086 >>129263262 Generally I would consider a 'neoliberal' to - by common definition - be close to a classical liberal in economic matters (lassez-faire) but doesn't hold the same philosophical beliefs about personal liberty.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497034771 129233013,129264392,2017-06-09 19:04:40,">>129263594 I just wanted to talk about the so called neoliberalism really, didnt even saw any irish.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1497035080 129233013,129266558,2017-06-09 19:23:36,yeah.,,Anonymous,Snek.png,Nb9hZPVNDv3UU2h+rEw5zw==,US,,1497036216 129233013,129266684,2017-06-09 19:24:51,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,kjzv7W5jKnSx19ggmzlUag==,US,,1497036291 129233013,129267165,2017-06-09 19:28:38,,,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1497036518 129233013,129267365,2017-06-09 19:30:23,What do you guys think is the best non-libertarian ideology?,,Anonymous,join_or_die.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,GB,,1497036623 129233013,129267642,2017-06-09 19:32:52,">>129267365 Honest? Aristocracy/Religious Monarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497036772 129233013,129267773,2017-06-09 19:33:55,">>129249358 I need not prevent anything, I will let as much of the world know of your actions and it will be a public common knowledge fact. Obviously a black market on my private property is unacceptable and will be met accordingly, while black markets anywhere else are equally subject to getting busted by private property owners who don't want them. We can communicate. Share private police and private militia information to purge black markets and impose equal penalties caught trading illegally in their property. Maybe put a bounty for whistleblowers to reward them. No blood need be shed. We will harass you to the end of time in the most legal and non-violent manner, making your life a living hell as you've chosen to make it one. Anon is a thief to the tune of 10m! Do not allow him on your private property! Of course you will be stuck in a little obscure corner somewhere paying outrageous prices. You can hide your identity sure, but that doesn't mean we can't reveal who you really are by speaking with the private property owner that a thief is among them. Or at the very least, your neighbors. Money talks, and we they can talk to each other. There is no honor among thieves, and you can be ratted out just as easy because you've done great harm in pissing off the wrong people when they otherwise would of left you alone",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497036835 129233013,129268314,2017-06-09 19:38:52,">>129267365 If I was fuhrer i'd probably go full meme, be the capitalist hitler, murder many communists, democrats, build a wall and just protect sweet capistan. Market fascism? NatCap?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497037132 129233013,129268337,2017-06-09 19:39:08,>>129246932,,Anonymous,asdf.png,KnYhkrpfNph8ZhqC3KkL1w==,US,,1497037148 129233013,129268338,2017-06-09 19:39:09,Bumping.,,Anonymous,Ron_Glassesoff.jpg,9NiBL23ouz5OR62I2uKOGw==,US,,1497037149 129233013,129268540,2017-06-09 19:40:57,">>129268338 >>129268337 Stand Tall Ron Paul",,Anonymous,Ron.png,ONq9KemJD4uFo1ZCARvqlg==,US,,1497037257 129233013,129268716,2017-06-09 19:42:38,,,Anonymous,snek (13).jpg,WeiEDcQayx0q3aRb3nKD+g==,US,,1497037358 129233013,129268987,2017-06-09 19:45:27,"Commie here, good luck defending your property when we get rid of the state!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497037527 129233013,129269071,2017-06-09 19:46:14,">>129268987 i will pic related",,Anonymous,file.png,au20gNVGUuRvY0SnS9ubYA==,GB,,1497037574 129233013,129269192,2017-06-09 19:47:22,">>129233013 >milton friedman >right libertarian wasn't he for universal basic income? that shit makes communism sound like capitalism",,Anonymous,an-african-mother-and-slave-nursing-for-a-white-masters-baby.jpg,CYCY1lSf9eajoZ3Z6OZXkQ==,US,,1497037642 129233013,129269404,2017-06-09 19:49:12,">>129269192 Yeah, Miltion Friedman isn't an ancap, but he still was a huge advocate of (largely lassez-faire) capitalism, and his son David Friedman is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497037752 129233013,129269495,2017-06-09 19:50:00,">>129269192 he also started the school voucher shit which is basically the republican's brand of socialism. you give a poor nigger free money to go to a school of his choice",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497037800 129233013,129269593,2017-06-09 19:51:00,">>129269192 THAT'S NOT FRIEDMAN THAT'S RALPH RAICO EVERYBODY MAKES THIS MISTAKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,Ralph Raico 2005.jpg,0RLqG1mObGyzQkQQBJAUlg==,US,,1497037860 129233013,129270788,2017-06-09 20:01:54,">>129233013 Literally every ancap is autistic",,Anonymous,IMG_0300.jpg,/CUBzxWeBSVBafAWLlE1Hg==,US,,1497038514 129233013,129270934,2017-06-09 20:03:04,">>129270788 >possible furry",,Anonymous,IMG_0297.jpg,azwMgMZSfbCWB90P/A+Hkw==,US,,1497038584 129233013,129271309,2017-06-09 20:06:32,>>129270934,,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,YDiTeUPtm/IDQTYJJFUiLA==,GB,,1497038792 129233013,129272220,2017-06-09 20:15:03,">>129270788 >>129270934 yeah these niggers are gonna get physically removed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497039303 129233013,129273284,2017-06-09 20:24:51,">>129270934 >>129270788 disgusting, not on my property. this fag can remove himself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497039891 129233013,129273914,2017-06-09 20:30:48,">>129268314 Natcap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497040248 129233013,129275004,2017-06-09 20:40:13,daily reminder,,Anonymous,authoritarianslul.png,w7ikULnNHUPfV/W5SK4lZA==,US,,1497040813 129233013,129275174,2017-06-09 20:41:37,">>129273914 Right on.",,Anonymous,pino2.jpg,9XYAULKNs1oQEYTjADbAmQ==,US,,1497040897 129233013,129277786,2017-06-09 21:05:19,Bump.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497042319 129233013,129278979,2017-06-09 21:16:27,">>129273914 that's not how you spell anarcho-fascism",,Anonymous,1495313279489.webm,yZOK/ui+63P8sV6QeYbdPw==,US,,1497042987 129233013,129279343,2017-06-09 21:20:18,>>129278979,,Anonymous,AnFasces.png,nPDb0IVenvjAIRPrymjXTw==,US,,1497043218 129233013,129279345,2017-06-09 21:20:17,">>129233013 In a libertarian society, can I own brown people as property?",,Anonymous,147472775717.png,SLP4IhCRU5A84CVbgbozIg==,US,,1497043217 129233013,129279409,2017-06-09 21:20:54,">>129279345 A member of the human race who is completely incapable of understanding the higher productivity of labor performed under a division of labor based on private property is not properly speaking a person… but falls instead into the same moral category as an animal – of either the harmless sort (to be domesticated and employed as a producer or consumer good, or to be enjoyed as a “free good”) or the wild and dangerous one (to be fought as a pest). On the other hand, there are members of the human species who are capable of understanding the [value of the division of labor] but...who knowingly act wrongly… [B]esides having to be tamed or even physically defeated [they] must also be punished… to make them understand the nature of their wrongdoings and hopefully teach them a lesson for the future. - Hans Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497043254 129233013,129279730,2017-06-09 21:23:55,">>129279409 Hoppe is so fucking based. I can't wait for free labor.",,Anonymous,89.jpg,My7xONEYZBJT4BwL83fksQ==,US,,1497043435 129233013,129279886,2017-06-09 21:25:23,">>129279409 >slavery is only ok when they're dumbasses who can't take care of themselves and are basically subhuman animals seems reasonable enough tbqh",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497043523 129233013,129280709,2017-06-09 21:32:39,">>129279409 I really like this hoppe fella, he's a cool guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497043959 129233013,129282019,2017-06-09 21:44:42,">>129238679 It's the cultural marxists and their critical theory, who attached the idea of egalitarianism to 'liberty' even though the two stand at ends.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497044682 129233013,129282706,2017-06-09 21:51:29,Is this good ?,,Anonymous,IMG_7222.jpg,sUl18e0QvWO2/lUbU1C7OA==,KR,,1497045089 129233013,129282782,2017-06-09 21:52:13,">>129282706 Rob Murphy is an intelligent man. I haven't read it. But it should be good.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497045133 129233013,129284387,2017-06-09 22:08:17,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497046097 129233013,129286343,2017-06-09 22:29:04,">>129233387 Walmart doesn't sell ARs anymore. They caved to bradybunch pressure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497047344 129233013,129286599,2017-06-09 22:31:29,">>129233013 You've got the wrong friedman on that there .jpg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497047489 129233013,129287161,2017-06-09 22:37:45,,,Anonymous,Ancap_Maryland_3.jpg,jAu8PsgucJkzlk9veoZnfQ==,US,,1497047865 129233013,129287742,2017-06-09 22:44:21,">>129287161 is Maryland redpilled? surely with that many niggers around they're as aware of the truth as most southern states",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497048261 129233013,129288114,2017-06-09 22:48:17,"Daily reminder that Nat Socs are the prols of 4chan. Right Libertarins are more industrious, organized, better armed (due to wealth), and much more intelligent. In both physical and mental combat, we're worth at least 2.5 fascists. 4chan is a Right Libertarian board.",,Anonymous,Ancap FTW2.png,XFHLWtSk7F2Y35FG8cpyIg==,US,,1497048497 129233013,129288240,2017-06-09 22:49:30,">>129287742 In rural areas yes, but in the biggest counties no. Montgomery, Baltimore, those places, firm blue. Ya see my whole entire thinking is that if you unplague the nation's capital you can unplague the nation. Currently Washington is a bastion of socialism and it's leaking out throughout the country. Treat the infection at it's source, ya know?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497048570 129233013,129288646,2017-06-09 22:53:34,">>129288240 seems fair enough yeah",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497048814 129233013,129289071,2017-06-09 22:57:45,">>129288646 So my plan right, is to propagate these ideas inside of easy to digest soundbytes, images, memes, that kind of shit. The youth here no that's they're no future in maryland for them. If we can I hope to make it so that at least montgomery county doesn't go +15% blue and go 50/50, making maryland a swing state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497049065 129233013,129289206,2017-06-09 22:59:18,>tfw never see this thread up until its has a fair number of post.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497049158 129233013,129289297,2017-06-09 23:00:13,">>129289071 you're doing god's work anon bless you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497049213 129233013,129289352,2017-06-09 23:00:46,">>129289071 How come there are so many Maryland anons on /pol/? I've seen many Maryland threads over the past month",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497049246 129233013,129289707,2017-06-09 23:04:42,">>129289352 I don't know why for certain, I think it's because maryland is such a strong state. At last years Olympics, there was a time that Maryland would've been #2 if they were their own country. It could also be the weather, where it's either the tropics or 60 degrees and raining.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497049482 129233013,129292131,2017-06-09 23:30:53,"Great thread. I got an idea - we should come up with a name for each other. The same way commies call each other ""comrade""; we should have a name",,Anonymous,1494865792915.png,GJY6elMy4TBb5RQ0IGIqJA==,CA,,1497051053 129233013,129294040,2017-06-09 23:51:40,">>129292131 Patriot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497052300 129233013,129294158,2017-06-09 23:53:16,">>129294040 I like this, Patriot Anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497052396 129233013,129294224,2017-06-09 23:53:55,">>129294158 Glad you feel the same Patriot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497052435 129233013,129295129,2017-06-10 00:04:51,,,Anonymous,ancap waternoose.jpg,7OBrisKGIrWK8IHwA9pA3A==,MX,,1497053091 129233013,129295240,2017-06-10 00:06:02,">>129295129 top fucking kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497053162 129233013,129295852,2017-06-10 00:13:42,"Right Wing anticapitalist Libertarianism is the true redpill. Capitalism is for bootlicking debtor cucks. The only ones who truly benefit from Capitalism are elites born into power and the few lucky lotto winners they make false examples out of. Total isolation individualist barter-based Libertarianism and traditional family values are the ONLY path to Liberty and Justice. ""Ancaps"" are establishment shills trying to subvert a movement of hardworking individualists into fodder for the great globecorporatecapitalist machinery. Wake up already",,Anonymous,1451843942020.jpg,07rf65j8FUmvu4wxvfJanw==,CA,,1497053622 129233013,129295975,2017-06-10 00:15:16,">>129295852 >Anarcho Primitivism",,Anonymous,1490967038084.jpg,VSCTjVUtAekIopgRYYOgLA==,US,,1497053716 129233013,129297597,2017-06-10 00:35:04,">>129294040 I like it",,Anonymous,1494196704267.png,Nw2HIdLkhZifWVrHqXhAZg==,CA,,1497054904 129233013,129297734,2017-06-10 00:36:37,">>129243266 >blackmail >voluntary exchange what?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497054997 129233013,129298713,2017-06-10 00:48:13,">>129294040 Sounds good to me, patriot",,Anonymous,1492126263095.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,CA,,1497055693 129233013,129298973,2017-06-10 00:51:18,"Just discovered this board... why McVeigh is a hero to some of you is beyond me, but I will keep my ears open to the civil discussion, enjoy the banter, and read the stuff in the general. Saying all this shit to bump",,Anonymous,1483739979236.gif,ecd5FBleIG7HgwSalZ+bRw==,US,,1497055878 129233013,129299171,2017-06-10 00:53:37,">>129298973 look up the details behind the Waco Siege and the Ruby Ridge Shooting it will all make sense",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497056017 129233013,129299627,2017-06-10 00:59:23,">>129299171 Thank you for checking up. I understand both of them as outward motives for a hatred of central government, but don't you think personal turmoil and the desire to LARP a book played as much a role in his actions as those two events?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497056363 129233013,129301528,2017-06-10 01:22:50,">>129299627 oh in that case if you understand the motives, then you can pretty much just see him as the absolute madman who actually went too far in a sense he's kind of a meme (ask about his nicknames, wish I saved them all) like Pinochet. We don't really want a dictators or terrorist bombers, what we're concerned about first and foremost is freedom, less or outright abolition of central gov, and of course physically removed commies. Not bloodshed for the sake of it",,Anonymous,violated_NAP.png,lyh5IgCpgGo0dV7IGx+/kw==,US,,1497057770 129233013,129302678,2017-06-10 01:37:06,">>129233013 Why is this the first time I've stumbled across one of these threads? I have found my people",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497058626 129233013,129302827,2017-06-10 01:38:42,">>129302678 welcome home patriot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497058722 129233013,129303334,2017-06-10 01:45:27,">>129233013 what about crypto-anarchism?",,Anonymous,going dark.jpg,KNIb2totvpCFFc0ioMPkjQ==,US,,1497059127 129233013,129303787,2017-06-10 01:50:50,">I think the only reason why the highway isn't infested with trash is because of the law and the ticket that incentiveses not to do it. Exactly. The cop is a guy paid to drive along the road and write a receipt for damages when people litter. I don't understand why he needs to be a federal employee for this. His paycheck coming from the road owner (or an association of road owners) doesn't seem to be enough of a variable change to make him incapable of performing the same service.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497059450 129233013,129303907,2017-06-10 01:52:21,">>129303787 was meant for >>129255957 Forgot to tag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497059541 129233013,129304069,2017-06-10 01:54:24,">>129303334 I don't see why not",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497059664 129444727,129444727,2017-06-11 04:52:55,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL Voluntary monarch edition This thread is for the discussion of capitalism, libertarianism, conservatism, anarcho-capitalism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Anticom.png,quvKx2DlSvA0SyLrVFEdjg==,AU,,1497156775 129444727,129444736,2017-06-11 04:53:04,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497156784 129444727,129444762,2017-06-11 04:53:22,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497156802 129444727,129444776,2017-06-11 04:53:40,,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497156820 129444727,129444818,2017-06-11 04:54:24,GIMME MY GUN,,Anonymous,gimme my gun back you commie cunt.jpg,nmha1rBG/ArAdq/3WPH6rw==,AU,,1497156864 129444727,129444887,2017-06-11 04:55:22,"So i want to believe, and i know the level of government requirement fluctuates with the size of the state population and geographical area. The government required to run a country the size/pop of Rhode Island and the government required to run a country the size/pop of china is different. So my question is simple. Why do you hate roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497156922 129444727,129445206,2017-06-11 05:00:28,">>129444887 ROADS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL",,Anonymous,AGGHHH.jpg,LX9qT388+1KgnXOM7ClapA==,AU,,1497157228 129444727,129445218,2017-06-11 05:00:38,">>129444887 well op didn't respond to me and this thread is dead. sage",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497157238 129444727,129445290,2017-06-11 05:01:49,">>129445206 So you have no real argument on the roads questions for ancaps so you call it unconstitutional? ok op",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497157309 129444727,129445537,2017-06-11 05:05:46,">>129445290 I assumed were joking, what makes you think that roads could not be established through completely voluntary means?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497157546 129444727,129445823,2017-06-11 05:10:05,">>129445537 Is a company going to own them? Or will it just be a group effort? How will the company handle the roads if so? Will they shoot anyoen who doesn't have a road usage pass around their neck who is using the road?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497157805 129444727,129446754,2017-06-11 05:24:51,">>129445823 >Is a company going to own them? Or will it just be a group effort? Firstly, I don't know how people should organise services. I don't build roads. People may choose to simply pool their money to pay for a service, people may choose to give money to a company that will build roads, people may choose to fund entire governments that are responsible for multiple services. What is important is that this should be done voluntarily. >How will the company handle the roads if so? Will they shoot anyoen who doesn't have a road usage pass around their neck who is using the road? Contract. I agree to give you X in order to use your Y. One example out of many possibilities is a simple toll. You put a sticker on your car or install an electronic device that the company has issued. The roads are built simply out of their universal demand, by the inevitable return of an investment in them. Companies are held accountable and prices are kept down due to the fact that everybody is allowed to compete in the market. Everybody everywhere wants roads and companies want to build them. http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Private_road",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497158691 129444727,129447680,2017-06-11 05:40:14,Just stop. Stop wasting your time defending useless market ideals.,,Anonymous,egl.png,lPhvAT+LwUBriz55f6nuxw==,SE,,1497159614 129444727,129447884,2017-06-11 05:43:11,">>129444727 Thank god, something other than cringe kekistan shit and plebbit fags",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497159791 129444727,129448034,2017-06-11 05:45:50,">>129447680 I'm not so much set on defending market ideals as I am with defending voluntary cooperation. I believe in hierarchy, authority and leadership. I just don't believe in violence.",,Anonymous,Libertarian Fascism.png,pWaQLQhGrXwbFaG/dEvBfg==,AU,,1497159950 129444727,129449521,2017-06-11 06:08:37,">>129446754 So when you travel across country you will have to get 150 stickers for your car to use all those roads? Who will handle those who drive on your road with no stickers? Will you just kill them? You have no government to handle punishments or court. I dont want to read some faggot site i want to speak you, great scholar.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497161317 129444727,129451365,2017-06-11 06:36:57,">>129449521 Do you want to have to use a hundred different services to travel across the country? I don't think anyone does. There is therefore universal demand for a conglomerated, monopolised road service. That service is currently being provided by the government. In a voluntary society, companies will be able to make money by investing in roads. Once they've built the roads, they'll want to maximise profit. They can only get that profit from customers. Customers, as you've stated, want accessible roads. Companies will therefore cooperate with each other by confederating their services and recognising customers from different places that subscribe to different services. An extremely likely outcome is that a single firm would aggregate all the services and become a mediator between the customers and the road companies. This is the most likely outcome because it is what people want - and what is most profitable. Because companies are not willing to invest in the creation of a service that people can steal, there will be demand for a service that punishes anybody who uses the roads without paying. Judicial services will therefore be created in order to meet this demand. Customers will be required to consent to certain judicial companies in order to use the roads so that the companies will be insured. Foreigners who decide to use the roads without any regard for any existing contracts will be subject to the simple force of retaliation by the companies providing the service. They may hire a security company to ensure that everyone who is using the roads are not violating any contracts. Anybody who trespasses on someone else's property deserves having their own property trespassed - that is, anybody who uses without asking is simply removed without being asked. This is all according to the principle of voluntary cooperation, contract and retaliation - none of which violate the non-aggression principle.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497163017 129481499,129481499,2017-06-11 13:01:56,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >/lrg/ Chatroom discord gg BTJwVkfs >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squad",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_hoppe.png,6Fri1z1L+n6co21Xqo1oqA==,GB,,1497186116 129481499,129481581,2017-06-11 13:02:51,End road socialism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497186171 129481499,129481816,2017-06-11 13:05:17,">>129481499 We need to fix capitalism.It is actually ruled by the BIS(Bank for International Settlements),and they are corporativists and fucking kikes.They rule the countries national banks,and those banks rule the governments.",,Anonymous,BIS_members.svg.png,dHmF5bkKjVj4nvTBns14kw==,ES,,1497186317 129481499,129482288,2017-06-11 13:10:17,"You know, fuck you sometimes I'm pretty left of center. I can be libertarian but still think about the poor, especially when they're children. Americans and Brits have school food programs, you feel it's an unnecessary waste of your money or cheap way to specifically and exclusively increase the earnings of poor families with children? >>129481581 Libertarianism is only end road because there doesn't really need to be a system after it or the system can become unimportant, which is actually preferable. >>129481816 Disruptive small businesses will crumble the corporations, small businesses is basically a decentralised economic system which is what a libertarian really wants. Half our arguments are about the market making itself better, which happens when there's more competition. Small businesses means more competitors. The opponents now are in industries fighting against this change like how the mainstream media is attacking the new small business media people created by new technologies. It's aggression.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497186617 129481499,129482564,2017-06-11 13:13:11,">>129482288 >you feel it's an unnecessary waste of your money or cheap way to specifically and exclusively increase the earnings of poor families with children? I'm really couldn't care more or less about those families, but I'm deeply against the coercion that must be used to provide the services, and the welfare statism it implies. I believe charity, family and church are the best way of helping the needy and poor.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497186791 129481499,129482918,2017-06-11 13:17:36,"Wassap my reactionary, commie hating pals",,Anonymous,Badge_0.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1497187056 129481499,129483232,2017-06-11 13:20:42,">>129482564 But if you couldn't care less then we wouldn't be able to count on you for any such charity, I agree about the charity thing but all that means is expecting regular people to be better one day and in the mean time giving tax incentives, which unfortunately doesn't incentivise the face to face charity that's important. On point, if I can't expect you to care then why would you think is count on you for charity?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497187242 129481499,129483489,2017-06-11 13:23:22,How high will the helicopter be when I'm tossed.,,Anonymous,unknown-3.png,pddr6ZvlBvwoh6LwPvR71A==,US,,1497187402 129481499,129483513,2017-06-11 13:23:43,">>129483232 Charity isn't a right. It's completely up to the prejudice of the givers to decide who, if anyone, they deem responsible enough with their charity. That said, I say I don't care but that's in relation to strangers - I'd be more than happy to lend to a friend or family member on the condition that they're trustable and not some sort of permanent welfare leech.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497187423 129481499,129483575,2017-06-11 13:24:18,">>129483232 I am a generous person. I would give to genuine charities. He doesn't want to, do you think it's OK to force him to pay? Would you yourself threaten to put him in jail or steal from him to get the money?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497187458 129481499,129483766,2017-06-11 13:26:10,">>129483489 You are the opposite of a libertarian,get out of here reeeeeeeeeeeee",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1497187570 129481499,129483976,2017-06-11 13:28:35,">>129481499 If libertarians define value as subjective, then how can they state that their ideology is superior, when that would imply objectively better value?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497187715 129481499,129484243,2017-06-11 13:31:19,">>129483489 Doesn't matter, we're gonna to a rope to you.",,Anonymous,The_Humane_thing_to_do.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,US,,1497187879 129481499,129484266,2017-06-11 13:31:31,">>129483976 The economic value of a good is subjective. Ideas are not economic goods.",,Anonymous,EYxNc1s.jpg,7jP08r2E7qj80iKr160UPQ==,GB,,1497187891 129481499,129484560,2017-06-11 13:34:57,>don't even have working discord invites much less roads,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497188097 129481499,129484639,2017-06-11 13:35:42,">>129484266 To my knowledge, libertarians define both as subjective.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497188142 129481499,129484648,2017-06-11 13:35:46,">>129483513 That's the thing, if the radical new system is """"charity"""" and you've proven yourself it rarely works, then shit I don't think we're making a very good argument? Do you think? The ideal is everyone can 'say' they'd give to poor strangers, in reality I only expect them to give to the truly poor in their regular lives. The thing is if I can't hear you bullshit about giving to strangers, then I don't believe you'd feed a friend or whatever. >>129483575 Cool. I'm running 50/50, but it's nice to hear you bullshit. I believe you've help your brother when he's down, the underlying point is that it's obviously not everyone and until it is everyone the idea is qualifiably bad. Left libertarianism asks for patience. >>129483489 >just parallel of left/right where they place Hitler usually Heh People don't realise this, but Hitler was comparatively moderate. I'm sure he locked down the borders and imposed tariffs, but he also funded youth club subsidies, local food production and public transport, which are all somewhat arguably lefty. Still I'm on the parallel side of the libertarian/authoritarian spectrum as you, but us lefties can't afford helicopters. No. We use cliffs, still the most economical way to kill someone!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497188146 129481499,129484693,2017-06-11 13:36:07,">>129484560 https discord gg BTJwVkf fixed",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497188167 129481499,129484730,2017-06-11 13:36:28,">>129481499 Reminder that intellectualism is a bane, rather than a boon to libertarianism. Recently these threads have attracted ""intellectuals"", and some of them have been won over to our side. Unfortunately, these sort of people hurt us rather than help us. Every time they put their finger on the keyboard, paragraph upon paragraph of nonsense is spewed, even if we do largely agree with it. Because we agree with the gist of it, we often overlook the harm the writer of it is actually inflicting. As the longwindedness of the post increases, as do the argumentative holes. Odds are most people take one look at it and not just see one fault but a paragraph of faults. If called out, the usual response is more of the same and total arrogance. Let Dr. Hoppe serve as an shining example of how to convey your ideas and arguments intelligently WITHOUT going around in circles and being self-inflated intellectual. In his words, they are ""the producers of words"".",,Anonymous,intellectualism in a nutshell.png,2bywQ0DnjFVyoTwq35tU9Q==,US,,1497188188 129481499,129484996,2017-06-11 13:39:25,">>129484730 Intellectual arguments are good within Libertarian circles, but they're trash for swaying normalfags. Appeal to emotion, because it works.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497188365 129481499,129485075,2017-06-11 13:40:10,">>129484648 Do you think the poor have a right to be helped, that is they have a right to other's property and self? Do you assume people are so selfish that they will not ever try to help their family and community? If so... pic related, I guess >>129484639 Ideas are not subject to markets. Ideas cannot be possessed or created, only discovered.",,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,LatNQtsX/0qiXcA64qB87w==,GB,,1497188410 129481499,129485185,2017-06-11 13:41:23,">>129484996 >Intellectual arguments >Intelligent arguments Libertarian circles make use of the latter.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497188483 129481499,129485369,2017-06-11 13:42:58,">>129484243 St-Stop this is class warfare!",,Anonymous,__original_drawn_by_mizuki_mizuki_ame__ba3e4fbbaa3d9588fd505d4a42da67dd.png,uj5Pu6o9lYj9UF1KQtpn3Q==,US,,1497188578 129481499,129485473,2017-06-11 13:44:01,">>129485369 Why do Nazis love gooks so much?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497188641 129481499,129485558,2017-06-11 13:44:55,">>129485185 No they don't You're a shitstain on this board Your ideology is literally ""everyone will magically submit to it""-tier, complete garbage",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1497188695 129481499,129485820,2017-06-11 13:47:49,">>129485473 Culturally and cognitively at the level of the European.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497188869 129481499,129486076,2017-06-11 13:50:35,">>129485075 But ideas are about how to control matter, so if you define the value of matter as subjective, then doesn't it follow that ideas are also subjective. Eg. If somebody hates freedom, then doesn't libertarianism admit, that for that person libertarianism is a bad idea.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497189035 129481499,129487254,2017-06-11 14:02:26,Have you folks gotten your hands on niggercoin yet?,,Anonymous,1497140856274.jpg,5m5GFYVCCIp+MdCU86o6xA==,US,,1497189746 129481499,129487689,2017-06-11 14:06:33,"I love lew rockwell, He's the perfect blend of Rothnard and Hoppe. he needs more love. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8",,Anonymous,Lewposting.jpg,uddMsf/u7NcLyyLphf3F5g==,US,,1497189993 129481499,129487773,2017-06-11 14:07:21,">>129487689 >Rothnard I mean Rothbard. fuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497190041 129481499,129487979,2017-06-11 14:09:14,">>129484730 Fuck yourself you elitist asshole. >>129485075 No. But if no one helps the poor then they'll be dragged along, there's no questioning poor people are more likely to commit crime and need to consume social programs. It's usually helpful if poor people have less authoritarian means of getting help, which usually isn't money. And yeah, I honestly think a good portion of the human population actually wouldn't offer charity to their family members, either because they're not in a position to or because that's unexpected in their family. Some families are so cold and distant to one another. In some ways the fascists can be right, but only in their insistence that the state begins with the family unit and then the community, nation, etc. For instance, if shelter was something easily expected from people's families, then there would be zero reason to have state housing.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497190154 129481499,129488190,2017-06-11 14:11:26,">>129487979 >And yeah, I honestly think a good portion of the human population actually wouldn't offer charity to their family members, either because they're not in a position to or because that's unexpected in their family. Some families are so cold and distant to one another. I'd like to address this point. The welfare state stands at ends with traditional values and culture. With it's abolishment, the world will return to the natural and efficient structures of family, kin, church, community etc. which will promote the family again.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497190286 129481499,129489745,2017-06-11 14:25:43,Bump,,Anonymous,physically_removed_2.png,sONErO6I9N64VyGp7IkqkQ==,US,,1497191143 129481499,129489953,2017-06-11 14:27:38,IS THOMAS SOWELL A LIBERTARIAN?,,Anonymous,IMG_7237.jpg,mXdvc/f0pfgiQTfutIt7/A==,KR,,1497191258 129481499,129490254,2017-06-11 14:30:26,Reminder that libtardism is cancer,,Anonymous,libertarianism.png,Pqn6OB2Cl8AhByrJ+CYDJg==,NL,,1497191426 129481499,129490542,2017-06-11 14:33:14,"So what do you guys think, is libertraianism the way to go in a society with a forced unemployment rate of 80% due to automatition, where technically nobody has to work to achieve a high standard of living?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1497191594 129481499,129491151,2017-06-11 14:38:45,"Quick but serious question: Is it still conform with libertarian ideals while i'm in the military (not for a lifetime, only for mere two years as a volunteer) to call myself a libertarian. I want to get out of there when I'm done serving and stop being dependent on the state. I only joined to get some personal skills and to get /fit/ and not because of the money. Am I a hypocrite?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1497191925 129481499,129492056,2017-06-11 14:47:20,">>129491151 I don't know shit about modern German military, but oath keepers in the US military are /lrg/",,Anonymous,image.jpg,/hOx9LzeSqpOhSbURKfIUw==,US,,1497192440 129481499,129492780,2017-06-11 14:54:36,">>129491151 My brother is about to go into the Navy for a 5 year term after this summer, he's a paleo-con and still identifies as a libertarian. Personally thought about it myself, no problem with the military.",,Anonymous,Wojack_Nam.jpg,VsqGfRXWUGWzD7CU7QkIZA==,US,,1497192876 129481499,129492895,2017-06-11 14:55:51,">>129488190 Do you actually think it opposes those values from being practiced? Even then, what happens when the entire family is impoverished? Then the entire community? It's not really convincing if it only works for some people. >>129491151 >>129492056 Defence force is one of the few things state just provide, Friedman came up with three. >>129490542 Get a STEM degree.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497192951 129481499,129493092,2017-06-11 14:57:46,">>129492895 People who are recurringly poor are poor for a reason. Also, the family stands opposed to a state. As the state provides services, people no longer need to rely on the family or community to do it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497193066 129481499,129495086,2017-06-11 15:17:44,">>129492056 >>129492780 Still there is slight difference between our two countries. US military has a closer connection to minarchist/libertarian ideals because of your early history, while here it's more of the opposite (we're still both are democratic armies and anti totalitarianism). But since we're both allies that's not a big difference",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1497194264 129481499,129496542,2017-06-11 15:33:20,Bump,,Anonymous,alt_lite.jpg,/K+ZVWUMPEHLLR8ufW7e4g==,US,,1497195200 129481499,129496580,2017-06-11 15:33:38,">>129495086 That may be true, if you can try and get stationed inside of the U.S.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497195218 129481499,129496745,2017-06-11 15:35:20,">>129481499 physically remove: post-modernists marxists",,Anonymous,1481497343223.png,MvUMTz5d8UA8SK43GN2XTw==,US,,1497195320 129481499,129496883,2017-06-11 15:36:49,">>129489953 He espouses a lot of core libertarian ideals and he is very anti-left. I think he's a minarchist with conservative leanings.",,Anonymous,1459654270789.jpg,gHcT30Zl0NxQsvLHn9S1GA==,US,,1497195409 129481499,129497453,2017-06-11 15:42:29,A slow day.,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497195749 129481499,129498719,2017-06-11 15:55:21,">>129497453 Odd, it's Sunday",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497196521 129481499,129499545,2017-06-11 16:02:58,I'm still around m8s. Bumping and shit.,,Anonymous,IMG_2158.jpg,yzA5k7n6xO7PSigTObj2JA==,US,,1497196978 129481499,129499736,2017-06-11 16:04:41,">>129496745 God you guys are so full of shit",,Anonymous,ice age.jpg,S2Fjuiu4lxPnOgofb6ZUgA==,CA,,1497197081 129481499,129499763,2017-06-11 16:05:07,">>129496745 Wait this looks like blatant sensationalist journalism. What's the story here?",,Anonymous,maxresdefault (4).jpg,tsdCQeHSrxRnPm+DH8zFxg==,US,,1497197107 129481499,129500080,2017-06-11 16:07:50,">>129490254 Elaborate or neck yourself. Those covers of Pat Buchanan? He was a paleocon and an ally of paleolibertarians under Rothbard in the early '90s. Since then, paleolibertarians have swung so far right under Hoppe that they make Mussolini look like Bernie Sanders.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497197270 129481499,129500324,2017-06-11 16:09:59,"Anyway, going to shill my own general here. FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,free ride left side.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,SK,,1497197399 129481499,129500367,2017-06-11 16:10:25,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1497197425 129481499,129500395,2017-06-11 16:10:44,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,ancapball quality.jpg,SOw7K6U2FU1hz3ArJ9BNeg==,SK,,1497197444 129481499,129500443,2017-06-11 16:11:13,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,hippity hoppity get off my property.jpg,B7dUzmLWkuGISCelso1NPA==,SK,,1497197473 129481499,129500620,2017-06-11 16:12:52,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI",,Anonymous,lrg concise.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,SK,,1497197572 129481499,129500653,2017-06-11 16:13:17,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,nes-hiss-ary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,SK,,1497197597 129481499,129500763,2017-06-11 16:14:28,">>129500324 Hey slovakia been hoping you'd show up. Is there anyway you could let the founding father manage the discord?",,Anonymous,1491742892962.jpg,uBcPZs9e+GQsmYHFgxaxAQ==,US,,1497197668 129481499,129500925,2017-06-11 16:16:12,">>129500763 >Is there any chance you could let the founding father manage the discord t. FoundingFather (in all seriousness, I do feel like more than one moderator is a good idea)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497197772 129481499,129500943,2017-06-11 16:16:21,I wanna make a dank #welcome page,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497197781 129481499,129501068,2017-06-11 16:17:34,">>129496580 But I took an oath to serve and protect the german people",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1497197854 129481499,129501081,2017-06-11 16:17:44,">>129500925 Lol thanks for outing me. Sheeeeit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497197864 129481499,129501171,2017-06-11 16:18:36,">>129501068 That's pretty cool if you take your oath seriously. Protect the German people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497197916 129481499,129501202,2017-06-11 16:18:58,">>129500763 All right, I'll see to it right away.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497197938 129481499,129501207,2017-06-11 16:18:59,">>129481499 If any of you fags are bored then help me write 'physical removal' on this thing Link: pixelcanvas dot io/@-3637,3063",,Anonymous,tmp_23090-_20170611_2117011672912418.jpg,WZ8zOejjUZA3u67xQU/WKg==,GB,,1497197939 129481499,129501267,2017-06-11 16:19:45,">>129501068 Extremely high german population on the east coast. My family's name is Joachim, great friend of mine's Kolbeck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497197985 129481499,129501412,2017-06-11 16:21:04,">>129501207 I'll drop a dot for the cause.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497198064 129481499,129501484,2017-06-11 16:21:46,">>129501207 Currently trying to make an /lrg/ logo like the one in OP with that image >>129500620 You should add Drop it like it's Hoppe to the music list.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497198106 129481499,129501888,2017-06-11 16:26:06,">>129501484 Yeah, I'll add a bunch of Morrakiu there. Based black guy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497198366 129481499,129502501,2017-06-11 16:32:28,">>129501267 Kolbeck who? Btw which state are you in exactly?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1497198748 129481499,129502965,2017-06-11 16:36:27,">>129499763 The story here is unscientific journalism and sensationalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497198987 129481499,129502988,2017-06-11 16:36:39,">>129500324 Pretty much this. I want the government to exist but the best government would be a completely separate entity from the people. The only thing they must do is impose a tax to be able to function. With this tax, they will support an armed force for sovereignty and a peacekeeping force for domestic security, those being the Armed Forces and the police respectively. There shouldn't be any government service aside from that. People get complete freedom with minimal government while having a sovereign nation. Like a nightwatch state. No government subsidies and shit like that, no government policy and shit like that. No social programs like welfare, or schools. All social programs should be handled by private ownership. Whatever this nightwatch government's system is, I don't care as long as they stay away from the private lives of their people. A harmonious reconciliation between libertarianism and statism - a country of free people with a powerful protector.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497198999 129481499,129503116,2017-06-11 16:37:41,">>129500443 >>129500620 >>129500653 good shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497199061 129481499,129503365,2017-06-11 16:40:03,">>129502501 >Kolbeck who? I don't even know what your asking I'm sorry. As to what state, Maryland.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497199203 129481499,129503816,2017-06-11 16:44:23,">>129490254 Dutch people are by blood Socialist there is no way denying this",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1497199463 129481499,129504360,2017-06-11 16:49:09,Bump.,,Anonymous,1496085231943.png,fJk+zIeC5I4jZ/zsN4Y7DQ==,US,,1497199749 129481499,129504370,2017-06-11 16:49:12,">>129503116 You're welcome.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497199752 129481499,129505032,2017-06-11 16:55:01,">>129503816 Please elaborate on this. I want to know how I'm somehow socialist by blood.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1497200101 129481499,129506293,2017-06-11 17:05:24,,,Anonymous,Shit-Lib gets triggered.png,G6u+pGpHSIkKE7xt78+HOg==,US,,1497200724 129481499,129507787,2017-06-11 17:18:36,,,Anonymous,16472978_1843562552580957_2059561301784057992_n.jpg,z5G+cDNbFfvJm1Gx+8uqIw==,US,,1497201516 129581852,129581852,2017-06-12 08:58:56,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >READING: http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >DISCORD: /BTJwVkf",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_pixel.png,xP6KIZfw7GvOFt8sUL00Lg==,GB,,1497257936 129581852,129582355,2017-06-12 09:06:10,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,new_class_of_permanent_degenerates.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,GB,,1497258370 129581852,129582701,2017-06-12 09:11:09,bump,,Anonymous,,,SA,,1497258669 129581852,129585258,2017-06-12 09:46:48,I'm here for the revival.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497260808 129581852,129585356,2017-06-12 09:47:51,The state has no interest in opposing degeneracy.,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1497260871 129581852,129585575,2017-06-12 09:50:58,"Open borders is an assault on private property. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1497261058 129581852,129585786,2017-06-12 09:53:59,There is only one goal of a socialist state. Totalitarian enslavement.,,Anonymous,1495824504850.jpg,a4PBiO6dA3lGuhqtcANd3w==,US,,1497261239 129581852,129585831,2017-06-12 09:54:35,">>129581852 /pol/ is a National Socialist/Fascist board get the fuck out, lolbertarianism is no longer practical.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497261275 129581852,129586025,2017-06-12 09:57:03,">>129581852 >Ak-47 >on a capitalist flag c'mon man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497261423 129581852,129586081,2017-06-12 09:57:47,"What proportion of libs need to be intelligent, proactive and skilled and pro-voluntary action in order to prevent society from imploding?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497261467 129581852,129586083,2017-06-12 09:57:48,">>129586025 ? >>129585831 not an argument see pic related",,Anonymous,roads.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,GB,,1497261468 129581852,129586492,2017-06-12 10:03:21,">>129585831 you're gonna create a white ethnostate only to devolve whites with your shitty disgenic socialist economics. In your lust for traditionalism you forget that OUR INVENTION, free markets are what made whites so evolved.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1497261801 129581852,129586660,2017-06-12 10:05:42,">>129586083 he's right tho, Ak is a commie rifle. AR-15 or FN FAL is for capitalists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497261942 129581852,129586785,2017-06-12 10:07:27,">>129586081 100% >>129586660 Look at my flag tho",,Anonymous,file.png,Y7t0l9Eh1K0mMIXBRC/k/A==,GB,,1497262047 129581852,129586933,2017-06-12 10:09:32,">>129586081 Just let natural selection take care the worst. Yes, I know it's not nice at all but some people are just burden and helping them won't help anyone. >>129582355 >We support Palestine over Israel Speak for yourself, the Israelis won that land fair and square.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1497262172 129581852,129586954,2017-06-12 10:09:55,">>129586081 none of them have to be intellegent, as long as they cant vote they'll be stuck on the bottom of the pyrimid forever and thats pretty good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497262195 129581852,129586955,2017-06-12 10:09:56,">>129586025 As a gun owning, liberty loving capitalist I own an M82 along with my ARs All guns are bae",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497262196 129581852,129587067,2017-06-12 10:11:37,">>129586660 M16 is the most iconic weapon of capitalism. Other than that it would be the G36.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1497262297 129581852,129587089,2017-06-12 10:12:00,">>129586492 Sure but libertarianism is an endgoal it isn't necessary now, what we need now will inevitably require a degree of authoritarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497262320 129581852,129587155,2017-06-12 10:12:48,">>129585831 this",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1497262368 129581852,129587255,2017-06-12 10:14:02,">>129587067 nah, it's the FN FAL the M-16 is the weapon of imperialism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497262442 129581852,129587505,2017-06-12 10:17:20,">>129586492 >NatSoc >socialist economics You don't understand NatSoc and you're blindly regurgitating dumb talking points like a shitskin zealot. The market in America today is far, far more ""socialist"" than it would be under a NatSoc regime. America has a history of state funded, state owned projects which created advancements which far outpaced the consumer market. Profit is not the only motivator, it is simply the one which has universal appeal. War creates a drive, fear of losing, being subjugated. In times of war industry advances not because war itself as an abstract directly contributes to industry, but because people now have an impetus to strive for advancement. The nuclear bomb was not created by the free market, nor was the theory and math behind nuclear power ironed out by the free market. To this very day DARPA projects are years ahead of commercially available technology, and its specifically because the state has set clear far reaching goals and recruited the best possible minds to achieve them. It is a state orchestrated meritocracy that is surpassing the profit motive you Lolbertards worship as the only driving factor in life. Your ideology is inherently wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497262640 129581852,129587519,2017-06-12 10:17:30,">>129587089 I disagree, some folks like tol meme NatSoc as a means to Libertopia, which has some merits. You forget that capitalism is the most eugenic system possible. Socialism focuses on reproducing the weakest in the genepool. this obviously puts a white ethnostate in permanent devolution. If there is to be any authoritarian cleansing of the world it MUST be based in capitalism and not egalitarian distributism. Any less will bring us to our own downfall.",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1497262650 129581852,129587754,2017-06-12 10:20:47,">tfw trying to convince people that deregulation allows more power to the states/people >tfw everyone is sucking govt dick constantly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497262847 129581852,129587875,2017-06-12 10:22:25,">>129585786 Ok kid",,Anonymous,lenin 4.png,cHiUKmNJ0hvv/yVkMOKArA==,US,,1497262945 129581852,129587956,2017-06-12 10:23:35,>>129586492,,Anonymous,Gregor strasser.png,PsiChrOhX7vCJGAtFdqqKA==,US,,1497263015 129581852,129588074,2017-06-12 10:25:11,">>129587505 Not all of us are idjits like this guy. If my ""worst"" neighbor were NatSoc I'd have pretty good neighbors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263111 129581852,129588090,2017-06-12 10:25:23,">>129587505 Your only point was that the american state has used conscription and socialist distributism to fund wars against the white ethnostate of the 3rd reich and then claimed capitalism is inherently wrong while pointing out none of what you said was the result of capitalism. you're just rambling. read a fucking book. there's no point in arguing with someone who spews this unintelligent trash.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1497263123 129581852,129588135,2017-06-12 10:25:54,">>129587505 >hurr goverments can control more capital and invest in large projects that it's just IMPOSSIBRUU for the free market to do >REEEEE corporations control too much wealth we need to tax them more! and no, the natsocs were more socialist than USA and even though it only lasted 3 years it still had devastating effects like malinvestment leading to shoe and clothing shortages not to mention the early movement was happy to adapt marxism into it ie. strasserism",,Anonymous,70e.jpg,62qFoWdko80D83Odu8QsCw==,US,,1497263154 129581852,129588207,2017-06-12 10:26:45,">>129588135 Then why did Hitler privatize everything?",,Anonymous,hitler 346.jpg,LRBhGYj8JozUQC26FcsRUA==,US,,1497263205 129581852,129588292,2017-06-12 10:27:56,">>129588207 >>Hitler >>Socialist >Hitler >Capitalist",,Anonymous,hitler_capitalism.jpg,DzzfkRxEF8TDzgY0QzmQ1g==,GB,,1497263276 129581852,129588322,2017-06-12 10:28:25,">>129588292 meme version",,Anonymous,hitlers_socialist_homosexual.jpg,ljjd9De3PfwKVpQ0db6hUQ==,GB,,1497263305 129581852,129588340,2017-06-12 10:28:41,"That quote was actually said by Gregor Strassr. >>129588292 >>129587956",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263321 129581852,129588430,2017-06-12 10:29:59,">>129588322 >ITS VOLKISH SOCIALISM! ITS DIFFERENT! WE ONLY WANT TO LEECH OFF THE GERMAN PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263399 129581852,129588571,2017-06-12 10:31:48,">Be me Bernie. Wanting to tax people 90% Reeeeeeeeeee stupid commie >Be me capitalist. Takes 90% of the wealth that a worker produces in an hour. A freedom fighter!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263508 129581852,129588741,2017-06-12 10:33:47,">>129588340 this is true, the strassers were subversive marxists that were eventually assassinated >>129588207 and yes, later nazi germany was forced by the war to start selling off government assets, so was america, and Britain, but ideologically the brown shirts and early supporters of natsoc were radical left",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263627 129581852,129588759,2017-06-12 10:33:57,">>129588074 Its troubling because uneducated zealots like this easily become the more prominent voices in a movement. Truly Libertarianism in earnest utterly died with Ron Paul. >>129588090 You're the one rambling here. The context of who America was fighting is irrelevant, the only relevant information here is that a state, independent of the free market, advanced technology beyond what the consumer market was capable of at the time. This wasn't a once in a lifetime lightning strike either. It has been a steady trend. DARPA is consistently outpacing the absolute best technology that the market produces. Radios, cameras, computers, thermal optics, etc. DARPA produces things which completely leave the free market in the dust. Profit is not the only motivator which creates a stable economy and society. State run projects like everything under the DARPA umbrella are not being made to turn a profit, they are being made to achieve technological goals established by the state. Shitskin zealot. >>129588135 There isn't a single shred of logic in your babby tier shitpost.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263637 129581852,129588902,2017-06-12 10:35:42,">>129588571 No one wants to debate dumb socialists. The labor you put into a product has nothing to do with its value you idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263742 129581852,129588951,2017-06-12 10:36:10,">>129588571 >be worker >work for another capitalist that takes smaller profit margins and pays more >be a bernout >stuck in USSA because they banned emigration to stop all the producers from leaving",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263770 129581852,129588984,2017-06-12 10:36:36,">>129581852 This is an ancap meme thread now",,Anonymous,25e.jpg,zJL+LOsCZzqxSsM7TzTJtA==,IE,,1497263796 129581852,129589035,2017-06-12 10:37:17,">>129588571 labour theory of value is a meme 1.) value is subjective not a sum of labour 2.) furthermore the employer/employee relationship is not exploitative but merely a function different of time preference rates, since the worker gets paid upfront but the employee only gets paid when the goods are sold, the employee prefers less wealth sooner and the employer will gain more wealth but later and thus at higher risk 3.) if i take a car and smash it with a hammer im adding labour to it but its grossly devalued you mongoloid 4.) with the LTV proven to be retarded your ideology falls apart",,Anonymous,labour_theory_of_value.png,b+7Mo5CHMQHPHRscjqtfxA==,GB,,1497263837 129581852,129589067,2017-06-12 10:37:52,">>129588951 >Believing capitalism is only in the first world >Believing that the first world magically gets the goods out of thin air >Ignores the sweat shop labor that is required to produce the first world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263872 129581852,129589082,2017-06-12 10:38:00,">>129588759 >There isn't a single shred of logic in your babby tier shitpost. there isn't a shred of argument in yours",,Anonymous,a59.jpg,MR/j/VdDUIzBCE8akhaAKw==,US,,1497263880 129581852,129589113,2017-06-12 10:38:26,">>129589082 >I can ignore the argument by posting memes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497263906 129581852,129589215,2017-06-12 10:39:47,">>129589067 >something I didn't say or imply >another thing I didn't say or imply >more communist drabble",,Anonymous,why-the-fuck-everything-cost-money-penguin-cla-karl-marx-18040470.png,cy4Xd70TU44Mu/sttnVRWw==,US,,1497263987 129581852,129589292,2017-06-12 10:40:46,,,Anonymous,DTdkrCl.jpg,xNLD7ug032MYpukDTUWpIw==,IE,,1497264046 129581852,129589354,2017-06-12 10:41:35,">>129589215 >Butthurt classcuck who cherry picks what capitalism is. At least communists have objective check lists of what socialism and communism is.",,Anonymous,leninsim 34.png,tcBCZyAFbGHV/IKjh0Juew==,US,,1497264095 129581852,129589383,2017-06-12 10:42:02,Is he /ourguy/?,,Anonymous,file.png,ZF3D5QMQKCGG9+4gdQZDwA==,GB,,1497264122 129581852,129589627,2017-06-12 10:45:08,"Hello fellers, I'm one of the guys from the Irregulars. Somebody needs to explain to me why Chris Cuckwell is still on this list. Lets review the facts. > Race mixing faggot > Aborts children > Violates the NAP when he beats his girlfriends > Drug (meth) addict and alcoholic > Says he doesn't believe in intellectual property and then content strikes people > Doxes ex girlfriends, even personal details like them be molested as kids, just to be petty Why do you support faggots like this /pol/?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497264308 129581852,129589664,2017-06-12 10:45:27,">>129589383 top fucking kek noice",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497264327 129581852,129589688,2017-06-12 10:45:43,">>129588759 >Profit is not the only motivator You don’t understand that “profit” is not only monetary. Profit is when you get your desired outcome. You may choose a lesser monetary reward for better circumstances and still be considered profiting from your choices. Read just the first chapter of “Man, Economy and State”. Or perhaps “Human Action” if you want to understand why real profit has nothing to do with money obsession or shekel worship. Money is a false god.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497264343 129581852,129589767,2017-06-12 10:46:39,">>129589354 >objective check lists of what socialism and communism is. is ""it doesn't have toilet paper shortages and a meany in charge"" one of your ""objective checks""?",,Anonymous,14952551731005.gif,wTxFftsMpgdgUWr5lcefLQ==,US,,1497264399 129581852,129589832,2017-06-12 10:47:36,">>129582355 so can i have recreational nukes?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497264456 129581852,129589952,2017-06-12 10:49:02,">>129588207 dream on, faggot",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497264542 129581852,129589977,2017-06-12 10:49:18,">>129589832 heh if you can even afford it kiddo",,Anonymous,1494023138552.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1497264558 129581852,129590071,2017-06-12 10:50:11,">>129589832 funny thing about the state regulating nukes, if you have them, you're the one making the rules and people with the capital to afford nukes are already so rich that they're above the law today",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497264611 129581852,129590274,2017-06-12 10:52:44,">>129589627 > Race mixing faggot Don't know anything about his relationships maybe he did. > Aborts children He never aborted a child, he was banging a psychopath who couldn't handle reality, he staunchly opposes abortion > Violates the NAP when he beats his girlfriends Sauce on this? > Drug (meth) addict and alcoholic Yeah he’s done drugs > Says he doesn't believe in intellectual property and then content strikes people He’s using youtubes system to protect his income, has nothing to do with his property. > Doxes ex girlfriends, even personal details like them be molested as kids, just to be petty Psycho bitch aborted his kid, I'd take a huge shit on her too for that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497264764 129581852,129590385,2017-06-12 10:53:53,">>129589832 If nukes are outlawed then only outlaws will have nukes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497264833 129581852,129590468,2017-06-12 10:54:56,>>129590385,,Anonymous,5880871+_f8ee79a57019108cf2d3637a25303f0d.jpg,9C1V9m53yzjERRDGBZoDug==,US,,1497264896 129581852,129590661,2017-06-12 10:56:59,">>129589082 The argument is that in the right landscape Nationalized industries function. Not only do they function but they strive, and are capable of putting the free market to shame. This Nationalization of certain industry is the only ""socialist"" aspect of NatSoc when it comes to economics. The free market driven by profit motives is not done away with under NatSoc ideology, it still exists, certain industries and projects are simply deemed realm of the state. Exactly like was done in wartime America, and exactly like DARPA is today. You don't have any argument, neither does the other retarded zealot posted image macros ITT, because neither of you actually understand what NatSoc is. You don't even understand economics, nor do you understand human beings. As I said, profit is a universal motive. The ""free market"" works because people at every level in society can participate in it and reap its rewards. However it is not the sole motivating factor which is capable of producing advancement and stability. My position is entirely logical, factual, and backed by decades of real world evidence. You have nothing by childish memes, like all Lolbertards. >>129589688 You lack the IQ to even process what you're reading here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497265019 129581852,129591077,2017-06-12 11:01:58,">>129590661 >The argument is that in the right landscape Nationalized industries function. yes, competition leads to efficiency the difference is that for a state to compete it needs to be fighting for it's survival ie. war a private company can fight for it's survival completely peacefully so yes, in wartime, nationalized industry can produce efficiently but it only works when your people are being murdered in mass, so there's that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497265318 129581852,129591412,2017-06-12 11:05:54,">>129590661 I've heard his shit argument a hundred times. all his spew about war being a motivator for innovation and somehow not having anything to do with profit. Winning a war is profit. The motivation for wanting profit does not change anything. You fags think economics is about shekel worship. Its about Human Action.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497265554 129581852,129591558,2017-06-12 11:07:43,">>129581852 Are there police in an ancap society? If there are, is the police force privately owned? If it is, what will stop them becoming the state",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497265663 129581852,129591933,2017-06-12 11:12:06,">>129591077 Retard, DARPA's existence has nothing to do with war. It doesn't exist because of our involvement in the middle east. It exists because it works, it works better than the free market, and there are reasons for that which a brainwashed ideological zealot is incapable of understanding. Stop being married to your ideas. If a company advances technology, produces something great, but the idea doesn't sell in the free market a Lolbertard like you would call it a failure. A company needs to make money, needs to sell products in order to survive. If it doesn't then it will die. A company dying means that valuable IP either stays locked away in limbo, or it gets bought up by another firm. This may be a company from a completely different country, a country which doesn't have the economic best interests of the US in mind. DARPA exists to advance technology. It exists in the realm of the state so that advancements don't fall into enemy hands. No idea needs to be marketed to a consumerist public, they don't have to worry about reaching the right demographic, they don't have to worry about price point, and hitting a financial ROI. Some advancements are stepping stones, and those advancements may not directly produce a product fit for commercial sale, but they still have value that is in the interest of the country to protect. >>129591412 Nice retort, shitskin. DARPA is not contingent on the US fighting in and winning a war. It is a Nationalized body that exists explicitly for America.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497265926 129581852,129591979,2017-06-12 11:12:37,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497265957 129581852,129592339,2017-06-12 11:16:50,">>129591933 >Retard, DARPA's existence has nothing to do with war",,Anonymous,161226182723-president-barack-obama-exlarge-169.jpg,bE7AWuoxWMNAcOfnE9KsqQ==,US,,1497266210 129581852,129592344,2017-06-12 11:16:53,"Hue hue hue Muh roads Muh roads I love gary johnson",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497266213 129581852,129592595,2017-06-12 11:19:58,">>129592339 DARPA would continue to exist even if America never participated in armed conflict for the next 50 years. Being oriented around national defense does not mean it is a wartime organization. You really don't understand anything. Take away your memes, reaction images, and your bland talking point image macros and you're completely ideologically empty. Every single Lolbertard thread on /pol/ goes the same way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497266398 129581852,129593112,2017-06-12 11:25:36,">>129592595 >DARPA would continue to exist even if America never participated in armed conflict for the next 50 years. you must have some kind of crystal ball because there's absolutely no reason to think that I think america can afford to cut back on the military spending somehow you think this is a radical zealot's idea and I'm the ideologue",,Anonymous,QS4dss.jpg,uRcjwiHQvsgED9W3D1EcqA==,US,,1497266736 129581852,129593141,2017-06-12 11:25:59,"Okay, I'm really into this no government thing, but I have some concerns: 1) What will become with the environment with no regulations? 2) How will natural resources like water and gas be handled? 3) What happens when someone doesn't have enough money to go to court?",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1497266759 129581852,129593300,2017-06-12 11:27:56,>When you're ruled by a tyrannical authoritarian regime but it's okay because it's a for-profit private corporation and not a democratically elected government,,Anonymous,,,IL,,1497266876 129581852,129593356,2017-06-12 11:28:43,">>129581852 What you gonna do with potholes?",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1497266923 129581852,129593398,2017-06-12 11:29:04,">>129592595 >Preparing for war has nothing to do with war the fact that it is or isn't a wartime organization has nothing to do with the validity of the state or free market capitalism. if your argument is that the free market wouldn't seek to defend itself and so the state must focus on defense you're forgetting that the state doesn't allow people to arm themselves and develop military weaponry within the state because that would undermine their regime. It's a pointless debate when the market is forcefully undermined such an organization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497266944 129581852,129593405,2017-06-12 11:29:13,">>129593356 fix them, probably",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497266953 129581852,129593710,2017-06-12 11:33:05,">>129581852 When will the LRG fully embrace all of the implications of self ownership? >For he that leaves as much as another can make use of, does as good as take nothing at all. Nobody could think himself injured by the drinking of another man, though he took a good draught, who had a whole river of the same water left him to quench his thirst. And the case of land and water, where there is enough of both, is perfectly the same. John Locke —Second Treatise of Government, Chapter V, paragraph 33",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1497267185 129581852,129593828,2017-06-12 11:34:41,">>129593112 Your poorly formed position has now devolved into >I want to decrease military spending You're so completely defeated that you're doing nothing other than grasping at straws. Thanks for admitting and amply demonstrating that you have no idea what NatSoc is. >>129593398 Again, companies need to be profitable to stay alive. They cannot simply carry out advanced R&D for the sake of it. No private company beholden to its own bottom line could accomplish what a Nationalized body like DARPA can accomplish. They have to get a return on investment for everything, a state does not. The state can afford to do so because it is not competing against the free market. The state doesn't have to create marketing campaigns to make the iPhone 7s seem fashionable to teenagers. And yes, taxes as a concept are legitimate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497267281 129581852,129594152,2017-06-12 11:38:48,">>129593828 Though I do look forward to the next thread where you petulant children include some passive aggressive quip about NatSoc ideology and pretend like you haven't roundly embarrassed yourselves here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497267528 129581852,129595045,2017-06-12 11:48:54,">>129593141 original questions, a first 1) well-defined property rights and mutually-beneficial exchange in a genuine free market create strong incentives for environmental stewardship, thwarting the kinds of environmental degradation that have been all too common under the status quo, defined by pervasive regulation, inept bureaucracy, and thus frequent disasters. Trash, pollution, and other liter is always more abundant on public property because of no single owner or monetary incentive to maintain the property. The most polluted countries on the planet are Russia and China, both with heavy amounts of nationalized industry. Also, law, order, and regulations aren't absent in libertarianism, there simply not enforced or legislated by a single monopoly, so in a case of air pollution where nobody owns the atmosphere, you can still settle a grievance in court if the law firms or landowners in a community were effected",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497268134 129581852,129595145,2017-06-12 11:50:01,">>129595045 2) private entrepreneurs, businessmen, and household consumers will be the source of demand for clean drinking water, companies will meet this demand and bid up property that has natural fresh water or building reservoirs. This will give the owners of the land or rivers and incentive to keep them clean and fresh by avoiding pollution to protect their bottom line or sell the property to someone more capable of doing so. Scarcity of water and fluctuation of the market price will cause people and businesses to conserve during droughts unlike what we have in the US today where water is subsidized by the government which worsened the California drought. Same things for Gas but with the added problem of oil spills. Private road companies with an incentive to keep their property usable and profitable will want to minimize the risk of spills on truck transport and thus have terms of service requiring oil trucks to have reasonable security in their construction. as for water transport, parcels of oceanic territory will also be privately owned or travel through national waters (so follow the rules of the country).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497268201 129581852,129595160,2017-06-12 11:50:13,">>129593300 1.) Not an argument 2.) Literally a meme tier non-argument at that, anarcho-capitalism is more than just 'keep the current system but abolish the state overnight' >>129593141 1.) Personally, I'm a strong believer that private property protects the environment better than governmental ownership. Consider the massive track record of pollution by government, especially socialist ones. Also consider then, under anarcho-capitalism: You have two possible methods of waste disposal. (1) On your own property - and why would you wish to devalue your own property? (2) On others property - and it is clear that constitutes as aggression. As such, the only solution would seem to be a contract with a waste disposal facility, which should naturally compete and become pretty environmentally friendly. Also consider that pollution is an act of aggression, so that anyone who pollutes in a large scale is viable to be sued. Lastly, technological innovations can help combat pollution, which obviously are more abundant in a free market. 2.) By private companies, obviously. If you're talking about their scarcity, see https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly 3.) I mean, tough shit, they have no real way to protect themselves in case of a property violation outside of their weaponry. As a more practical answer, the amount of people unable to afford a REA of some sort should be very low. Consider the austrian view of free markets - profits are essentially socialised, and in any sense we are all a lot richer/everything is a lot cheaper. Furthermore, even without a welfare state, charity, family and church exist for the truly needy.",,Anonymous,decentralisation_leichenstien.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,GB,,1497268213 129581852,129595167,2017-06-12 11:50:19,">>129595145 3) What happens when someone doesn't have enough money to go to court? I hate using the charity argument but in the case of someone who is believed by members of the community to be innocent, charity will crop up to meet this need. But in addition to this, private law companies that are able to be more lenient and reasonable with people and assume innocence until proven guilty will be more attractive to consumers and businesses that want to keep their communities secure but also create and environment that's welcoming to customers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497268219 129581852,129595391,2017-06-12 11:52:52,">>129593710 >that quote so when Africans overpopulate they are entitled to our land too, just because they were born? >but its not yours If people spent hundreds or thousands of years fighting to create and maintain something it seems like its theirs. What makes someone else entitled to it for merely being born?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497268372 129581852,129595777,2017-06-12 11:57:14,">>129581852 collectivism for the jews anti-collectivism for the whites. sounds like another jewish group evolutionary strategic plan. no wonder all the libertarian forefathers are jews.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497268634 129581852,129595969,2017-06-12 11:59:29,">>129595777 >Implying centralist-collectivism is good see >>129585356 welfare is dysgenics",,Anonymous,covenant_aesthetic.jpg,c4E24JKB2goVPre5AzPJ2Q==,GB,,1497268769 129581852,129596024,2017-06-12 12:00:05,">>129595777 we're not anti-collectivism. We're anti-compulsory collectivism. people collectivise naturally and its fine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497268805 129581852,129596112,2017-06-12 12:01:08,">>129593828 >Your poorly formed position has now devolved into I want to decrease military spending I wasn't arguing a position, I was arguing a fact of life: without competition you get stagnation it was just in the context of darpa when the government starts going full Germany and importing shitskins in mass to deal with its aging population and debt, you're going to wish we took a critical look at our overspending back when it mattered",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497268868 129581852,129596344,2017-06-12 12:03:43,">>129593141 1) private regulations ie: the goverments have must monopoliced that tool of our own lives, we cannot make our own rules on our own terms over our own shit or when agreeing with someone else ancapia is taking that back, simple as that, keeping the bully (gov) out 2) how did natural resources ended in the hands of the states? absolute inmorality: war, conquest, domination currently it's not private property, the state owns it all and it's interests are not equal of those of a private owner who GIVES A SHIT about the value of it, as he will mind preserving its value or growing it to leave as an heritage to his very own familiy or w/e the state rents its shit without giving zero fucks, politicians and statesmen just care about their own positions in power and fulfilling its requeriments makes them pursue instant gratification the state sucks at taking care of its natural resources, their mistakes have no cost in their personal lifes if you fuck up your own water due to instant gratification, you're fucking yourself up in the long term, this doesn't happen in politics owners play a different game at life than politicians, consequences are not the same 3) they ask for sympathy, if they deserve some do you prefer scumbags to feel entitled to your sweat or do you prefer honest people who recognice they've fucked up asking for help with humility? I guess you prefer to live in the first hell scenario, cuz you're an idiot Erradicate all humans.",,Anonymous,1495704390117.png,kptx2SPYBZdbeLQNcBWGUg==,ES,,1497269023 129581852,129596364,2017-06-12 12:03:54,">>129593710 >Nobody could think himself Im glad pohilosophy has evolved enough to identify a no true scotsman as a logical fallacy this doesnt make locke wrong, of course. but neither does it make him right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497269034 129581852,129596576,2017-06-12 12:06:09,">>129593828 >No private company beholden to its own bottom line could accomplish what a Nationalized body like DARPA can accomplish. lol not only did they accomplish it they did it while having to pay taxes towards niggers that burn their own neighborhoods down >we should keep paying taxes to niggers because muh darpa lol",,Anonymous,1496125170264.png,ftcmyg0dWAL837eqEb+lCQ==,US,,1497269169 129581852,129596629,2017-06-12 12:06:53,">>129582355 >when you are a tranny degenerate drug user but you make 6 figures, own multiple properties, and are building up to go full off the grid prepper nut The best part about Libertarians that your degeneracy and my degeneracy are opinions that can be maintained in separate spheres.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497269213 129581852,129596667,2017-06-12 12:07:19,">>129594152 I look forward to the thread when you stop being so new and realize natsoc will only survive in a society that recognizes the freedom to diassociate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497269239 129581852,129596923,2017-06-12 12:10:19,">>129596629 mfw",,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,LatNQtsX/0qiXcA64qB87w==,GB,,1497269419 129581852,129597963,2017-06-12 12:22:01,"Portubro reporting in for duty. How are my friends doing today? I saw the thread in the archives where the (((leaf))) tried to slander Hoppe as a communist, you guys put him back in place. Good job.",,Anonymous,1495324292206.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,PT,,1497270121 129581852,129598048,2017-06-12 12:23:08,">>129581852 Question for you from a noob, all schools of /lrg/: If a barista-tier college grad type with almost no capital of his own sought to man up and assimilate to an /lrg/-type society, how should he go about staking his own claim in it (in terms of accumulating value, capital, land, etc)?",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20161010-132755.png,mbpfegaOnI2xGpFQl7PHQw==,US,,1497270188 129581852,129598283,2017-06-12 12:25:42,">>129597963 morning coffee and korean jazz make for a pretty good morning here in California portbro",,Anonymous,miltonprint.jpg,0G2WnjNLYE5XSGf+9hE+Uw==,US,,1497270342 129581852,129598322,2017-06-12 12:26:03,">>129595145 >>129595160 Thanks for the answers. I got some more questions: 4) What happens to public spaces like parks and campsites? 5) How do private road companies get their profits? 6) How is currency value determined and enforced? Is it gonna be like in the middle ages, where each considerably large community has its own currency?",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1497270363 129581852,129598789,2017-06-12 12:30:46,">>129581852 Reporting in for privatized RWDS. Also thanks for using my pastebin, Britbro.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497270646 129581852,129598807,2017-06-12 12:31:00,">>129598048 since all property would be private, gaining residence would require you to be invited by a member of that society that was willing to >sell you property >keep you as a tenant in his property >employ you and provide housing as par the terms of the arrangement In the latter two options they are legally responsible for your actions, so while the easiest and cheapest way to get into the country, your freedom of action and movement would be limited under the terms of your patron immigrating to ancapistan would involve a long process of proving loyalty first to a property owner, gaining and maintaining employment, then working until you can afford your own land, which would be very valuable since it's basically a sovereign country of your own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497270660 129581852,129598824,2017-06-12 12:31:09,">>129597963 Wassap dude. ive found some other folks making hoppewave. a tribute to your works i suppose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,US,,1497270669 129581852,129598979,2017-06-12 12:33:05,">>129588571 You forgot to mention the fact that the large machinery you're using is owned by me. Either way, political activism is banned on my property, and since now everyone knows you're a communist, enjoy the helicopter ride. I hear the Pacific is beautiful at sunset.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1497270785 129581852,129599059,2017-06-12 12:34:01,">>129598322 4.) They become privately owned. What exactly this entails is up to the property owners - they could become paid, ran by charity, ran by the city using funds from investment projects, who knows. 5.) Same as above: Could be tolls, subscriptions, ad space on roadside billboards, paid for by car companies sponsoring their cars to drive on the roads... 6.) Either a gold standard or cryptocurrency. >>129598789 >Britbro I'm not the real britbro! Is he not the guy who runs the website? Not me.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497270841 129581852,129599111,2017-06-12 12:34:32,">>129589383 Kind of. He absolutely annihilated Bergie in the healthcare debate. The only numbers Beanie mentioned were ""millionaires"" and ""billionaires"".",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497270872 129581852,129599356,2017-06-12 12:37:00,>>129581852,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497271020 129581852,129599433,2017-06-12 12:37:56,">>129598283 Glad you're doing a-ok bud. Sorry you have to live near commies. >>129598322 Public property belongs to everyone and no one specifically at the same time. The correct way of privatizing it would be to attribute each taxpayer a share of public property according to the taxes they paid and the locations they actually visited using public property. This would exclude bums and public servants to access these place immediately, since bums pay no taxes and public servants are paid out of taxes. This would be the ideal scenario but I recognize there would be massive court cases because of confusion due to who gets many shares and how someone could get rid of them. Which I I simply believe the best way of doing it would be to let homeowners whose property was adjacent to the public property to be attributed all the shares and then figure something out between them. Private roads get their profits by building access ways to buildings where people buy stuff and then a percentage of said building's profits go to the road company. There could also be tolls in some places or the placement of billboards for ad revenue. Most likely there would be a return to a gold standard or more modernly the widespread adoption of cryptocurrencies. If every person was free to issue their own paper fiat money, the marginal cost of production would be zero and there would be so many currencies that the marginal revenue would also be zero. Paper money would be worthless without a state enforcing monopoly rights on central banks and imposing legal tender laws. So we'd see a return to metal coins, the proliferation of decentralized and anonymous cryptocurrencies, and the death of central banks.",,Anonymous,1494414359191.png,A2Sf2d3PuRTCPfHDRBBiRg==,PT,,1497271076 129581852,129599438,2017-06-12 12:38:00,">>129599356 what did he mean by this",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497271080 129581852,129599526,2017-06-12 12:38:56,">>129589627 Yeah, he has a bad past. Now he's yellowpilling NatSocs and bringing together a stronger white nationalist movement. Why aren't you bullhorning the Bilderberg meeting, screaming about the Jews? Why aren't you showing up to rallies to spread your message? As far as the other charges go, Heimbach used to date a Jewess whom most of you probably know. Augustus Sol Invictus is a druggie. Yet both of these men have done more for our cause (I know that Heimbach's a Strasshole, but he can be reasoned with) than you. Put together a stronger movement and join up with the alt-right, and your autism will aid us.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497271136 129581852,129599655,2017-06-12 12:40:17,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497271217 129581852,129599757,2017-06-12 12:41:10,">>129599059 Oh, sorry. There's more of us? Why did nobody tell me?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497271270 129581852,129599814,2017-06-12 12:41:43,">>129599356 thank you for your input",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497271303 129581852,129599834,2017-06-12 12:41:52,">>129598824 Oh my, this is great. Kek I'm glad to see other people are inspired by /lrg/ and the things we did over the last months. All these threads and arguing with strawmen are paying off. Even Mises.org wrote an article on us, and said Mises himself understood meme magic and Hoppe was our favorite. I cannot wait to see if Hoppe mentions his memes at this year's PFS. Maltabro if you're reading this, you must tell Hoppe to Google himself on YouTube!",,Anonymous,1493928274358.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,PT,,1497271312 129581852,129599848,2017-06-12 12:42:05,">>129599438 upload failed sorry, should work now",,Anonymous,chronoremoved.jpg,Mgy9Jx34LZV7oipj5OPr1A==,CA,,1497271325 129581852,129600044,2017-06-12 12:43:58,">>129599814 welcome",,Anonymous,ammoprivateproperty.jpg,lRo8KsG7ghB11vqHABBdOw==,CA,,1497271438 129581852,129600081,2017-06-12 12:44:21,">>129598322 >What happens to public spaces like parks and campsites? we already have a lot of private outdoor recreational areas in the US that are funded by hunters/outdoorsmen that use the land we also have public land that for the most part is either barren and unused or an embarrassment, like Yosemite, literally one of the most beautiful places in the world, but the government takes none of the necessary steps to make sure the wildlife is naturalized, people are always feeding the squirrels and birds to the point that they're dependent and fat, idiots are leaving bottles and cans in the rivers and fucking around, and the rangers don't give a shit because they get paid either way. In my neighborhood the property values for houses near a park tend to be higher than similar houses with no park. So it's essentially a luck of the draw based on how the city council decides to build the parks, as opposed to foresight and investment by the property owners or builders. >How do private road companies get their profits? If I ran a road company, I'd imagine getting a step ahead of the competition (which keep in mind isn't just other road companies but also trolleys, planes, and walking) by issuing membership cards to my customers with monthly subscription fees. these cards would function the same as a drivers license and effect the rate based on the times they drove, weight of the car, and miles driven to incentivise driving conservation and planning to avoid heavy traffic and keep a steady flow of cars. I'd also accept money from businesses that wanted my roads to lead to them to relieve the costs from the divers, and offer to pay the rate of roads owned by other companies that my patrons often use to make it more convenient and efficient for them up to a certain amount so they don't need to own multiple subscriptions",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497271461 129581852,129600137,2017-06-12 12:44:50,">>129599655 It's stuff like this why we put up with Chris' degeneracy. Like it or not, he's still one of our best representatives.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497271490 129581852,129600490,2017-06-12 12:48:47,">>129598979 nice meme, good payload to drop off",,Anonymous,popancap.jpg,WN25CFQgRcA+eOxnriziNw==,CA,,1497271727 129581852,129600594,2017-06-12 12:49:52,">>129600137 The episode with morrakiu or whatever his name is was great. They brought up some great ideas after circle jerking for a bit. I'd like to make some propaganda images based on that clip and the clip on capitalism undermining Jewish power as we're so often accused of being globalists. If you haven't watched the full episode I suggest you all do. They made great points against NatSoc economics without being muh authoritarianism cucks. I'm rambling now, just check it out of you haven't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497271792 129581852,129600988,2017-06-12 12:54:00,">>129582355 Who the fuck are you talking in name of? If you are a libertarian, you contradict yourself if you believe in open borders, however, as long as government taxes people, it must have a closed border where only tax payers keep the benefits of what they pay for. I am libertarian-capitalist, I believe all none essential back bone of government should be cut to reduce tax as much as you can. But there are things that need to exist on a ""socialist"" system, dare I say, like law enforcement and justice system, so that they become impartial. What do you mean ""We support Palestine"". Fuck Palestine. They can fucking get cluster bombed until extinction. I support the greater Israel. The one that extends from the Nile to Euphrates rivers. >United Kingdom Ah, fuck off you Mudslime Paki cunt. Eat your own shit and die.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1497272040 129581852,129601070,2017-06-12 12:54:52,">>129600988 wat",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497272092 129581852,129601169,2017-06-12 12:55:46,">>129600594 I have, it was great.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497272146 129581852,129601294,2017-06-12 12:57:03,">>129600988 >Who the fuck are you talking in name of? It's a FAQ for non-libertarian newfags and natsocs on the border of conversion. >I support the greater Israel oy vey >Ah, fuck off you Mudslime Paki cunt. Eat your own shit and die. Not an argument. Also I'm white, unlike you, saudi :^)",,Anonymous,file.png,0Ep6XvFJ3NyOS/ZzNKKX+Q==,GB,,1497272223 129581852,129601413,2017-06-12 12:58:33,">>129599433 >The correct way of privatizing it would be to attribute each taxpayer a share of public property according to the taxes they paid and the locations they actually visited using public property. this guy had the patience and discipline to read Hoppe's chapter on syndicalism, nice",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497272313 129581852,129601843,2017-06-12 13:03:26,">>129582355 >No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. CHRISTKEKS ARE NOT LIBERTARIANS.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497272606 129581852,129601943,2017-06-12 13:04:22,">>129601843 Christ wasn't mentioned at all in that quote.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497272662 129581852,129602148,2017-06-12 13:06:25,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497272785 129581852,129602346,2017-06-12 13:08:39,">>129601413 I read three of Hoppe's books so far, and I remember the ""anarcho-syndicalist"" privatization chapter pretty well because of people asking how to privatize roads in these threads. He himself said it was no easy task.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497272919 129581852,129603088,2017-06-12 13:16:41,">>129602148 You are right, there have been many cases where government based police systems have been corrupt. No one can deny that. However, it's better than having private army and private police that is owned by one person. I rather have them be commanded by an elected dictator than someone who owns them to be above the law.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1497273401 129581852,129603404,2017-06-12 13:19:49,">>129603088 But anon, having monopoly rights on law provision not only leads to corruption and to lower quality of law plus long waiting times but also leads to Saudi Arabia tier law. Also how much taxes do you pay there?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497273589 129581852,129603748,2017-06-12 13:23:35,">>129601294 You say libertarian in one breath and talk about how you are against someone coming in and out of a land that doesn't belong to you, assuming you aren't paying tax. If you pay tax, of course the land is your rent and you can have all the borders you want. Simple, abolish tax, no borders. tax, get borders. You also talk about how you are against drugs. Who the fuck are you? That is a violation of someones liberty and none of your god damn business. You are not a libertarian. You are a communist fuck.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1497273815 129581852,129604051,2017-06-12 13:26:49,">>129603404 No tax what so ever. Only tax is collected on corporations. 80% from oil based industry and 20% on rest. Which is what keeps Saudi Arabia tax free. I don't assume that it will last long. We are fucked once that is gone, all the expenses that we have today will soon be our burden, that's if I don't defect.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1497274009 129581852,129604298,2017-06-12 13:29:31,">>129604051 I thought you guys had moved past oil revenue? Or perhaps I'm confusing you with UAE. How are the politics of your country? Are people socialist or capitalist? Or is religion an overriding factor in politics there? You called the British guy a Mudslime so I assume you're not a native?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497274171 129581852,129604305,2017-06-12 13:29:34,">>129603748 right of discrimination faggot you own land,you do whatever the fuck you want with your land,you can forbid people to come in your land you bake cakes for married couples but you hate fags,you can not baking this fucking cake unless you don't ow your shop",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1497274174 129581852,129604380,2017-06-12 13:30:20,">>129603748 >What is voluntary association >What is a covenant community",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497274220 129581852,129605199,2017-06-12 13:39:13,">>129604298 First of all I am an Arab, I just have some Russian and Eastern Europe in me. Half-white. Yay. But I don't care about race, just memes. Unless they are niggers, not black people, I mean nigger niggers. I hate fucking niggers. That might be the UAE that has moved past Oil, It's very tourist friendly, for an Arab country. Saudi Arabia is still knees deep in oil income. We produce nothing, and all our labor is from East Asian countries. The people sure do have a capitalist mindset for the most part, until Soros kikes come to our country to rip it to shreds. Our people understand property rights, they understand that taxation is theft. Buuuut they don't understand that hierarchical commands are oppressive and threat to liberty and personal freedoms.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1497274753 129581852,129605602,2017-06-12 13:43:41,">>129605199 > not black people, I mean nigger niggers. french guy raised in an Parisian suburb here what's the difference ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1497275021 129581852,129605632,2017-06-12 13:44:07,">>129605199 Shite. Looks like you guys will be fucked too once Mr. Soros focuses his energies on the Middle East. Have you tried to emigrate to a better country?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497275047 129581852,129606827,2017-06-12 13:56:34,">>129581852 In ancapistan could I create a white only community out of 50 acres of bare land and dedicate an entire acre to a yearly mock holocaust effigy burning of giant bales of hay shaped into a jew face?",,Anonymous,1476931695782.jpg,GGpUupexMh6m2MVxX0GgBQ==,US,,1497275794 129581852,129606902,2017-06-12 13:57:35,">>129603748 I agree with Saudi bro.",,Anonymous,,,KR,,1497275855 129581852,129606920,2017-06-12 13:57:47,">>129606827 Yes",,Anonymous,1497182036271.jpg,X5kGKDfM/asREgAodNeTwA==,PT,,1497275867 129581852,129606924,2017-06-12 13:57:49,">>129606827 Sure, it's your property. I encourage you to do so.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497275869 129581852,129606925,2017-06-12 13:57:50,">>129606827 sure",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1497275870 129581852,129606926,2017-06-12 13:57:50,">>129606827 Make Auir Great Again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497275870 129581852,129607048,2017-06-12 13:59:07,">>129606924 >>129606925 >>129606926 Congratulations you made three contiguous posts.",,Anonymous,1494204773494m.jpg,rrjdfCblopbAG7edEPbMYQ==,PT,,1497275947 129581852,129607095,2017-06-12 13:59:39,">>129582355 >We support Palestine over Israel Ancaps don't support terrorist states",,Anonymous,,,EC,,1497275979 129581852,129607342,2017-06-12 14:02:21,">>129607095 In my book they can both be carpet bombed to hell I don't care.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497276141 129581852,129607688,2017-06-12 14:05:53,">>129581852 Anyone catch cantwell talk about meeting the madman himself sam hyde? Sam's a big guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497276353 129581852,129607835,2017-06-12 14:07:32,">>129586025 For sale commie rifle. Never fired only dropped once.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497276452 129581852,129607937,2017-06-12 14:08:37,">>129581852 Serious question: How does a libertarian society deals with parents abusing their own children? In my opinion this is the weakest link in the libertarian mindset.",,Anonymous,b36.png,l9ZkQVotVbi3XIL0xJgqYw==,CR,,1497276517 129581852,129607963,2017-06-12 14:08:55,">ancaps are for open boarders. not in my boarders nigger. https://youtu.be/qWR1l8y-erw?t=15",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497276535 129581852,129608099,2017-06-12 14:10:25,">>129607342 This.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497276625 129581852,129608132,2017-06-12 14:10:48,">>129607937 Children call the cops on their parents for assault",,Anonymous,prinpil.jpg,FAUgr3iQ/KXYgnOPgi2liw==,US,,1497276648 129581852,129608453,2017-06-12 14:14:02,">>129607937 True, but while abusive parents are a problem, the insanely humongous, you have to remember the people at the very top of the political, entertainment, sports, media, medicine, military industries and much more are gematria obsessed, ritual based, numerical occultists who regularly rape, consume, and sacrifice children. That is a much bigger problem than a parent here and there that's an ass hole.",,Anonymous,1493121293430.png,ZGA7Ttj5SLEm1OUz839hAw==,US,,1497276842 129581852,129608826,2017-06-12 14:18:01,">>129607937 Sigh. Parents don't have property rights over their children, they have property rights over the custody of their children. Hurting children would be just as punishable an offense as any other property rights violation. States would also not be able to do what they currently do to families, which is sending their children to state schools where they are brainwashed and pozzed into accepting ridiculous, anti-parental authority and defiant stances against parents. Community life would improve because of this and because of the other features of libertarianism/AnCapism, and putting community organizations like churches and clubs back into social life would improve bonds between people, not worsen. There would be a free market in the property titles to children's custody and more and better adoption houses and orphanages, so children could have a better life instead of staying with incompetent or unwilling parents until a public worker put them to rot in a state foster care. >inb4 there would be pedophiles who bought kids to hurt them Like there are people who buy stuff and then break them. They're a minority, and foster cares would vet their clients because foster homes who sell kids to pedophiles and criminals won't have a very good reputation with the media nor parents.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497277081 129581852,129609854,2017-06-12 14:28:42,"More questions: 1) If an entire land with an existing ethnocultural identity is up for grabs and private ownership under ancap, what stops market forces from preventing the very migration and cultural dilution that is happening with globalism? 2) should fundamental Islam be allowed to exist in an ancap society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497277722 129581852,129610088,2017-06-12 14:31:13,">>129607937 >You live in Ontario, Canada >Pink-haired school psychologist with tattoos and ear spacers decides your daughter is a boy, prescribes hormone blockers >You refuse to administer said hormone blockers >Pink haired school psychologist calls Children's Aid Society (CAS) >Green haired CAS robot with tattoos and nose spacers arrives and exercises her authority to remove your daughter from your home without a hearing >Appear before feminist activist judge at temporary care and custody hearing >Feminist judge orders your daughter into crown wardship >Daughter is placed at state-run group home, has hormone blockers administered by blue-haired group home staff members, is raised to believe her white cis father is evil and by extension, so are all men >Daughter receives state funding to attend two-year social service worker college program. Graduates and accepts job offer at CAS",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497277873 129581852,129610320,2017-06-12 14:33:28,">>129609854 >what stops market forces from preventing the very migration and cultural dilution that is happening with globalism? Nothing except the free market, and considering only 20% or so of the refugees coming into Europe are actually getting jobs, it should do the trick. >should fundamental Islam be allowed to exist in an ancap society? As long as they don't violate the NAP, if they try to dictate my behavior on any property other than theirs though, they'll get filled with lead.",,Anonymous,execution.jpg,iJMGe6BZ3l6th/j70fbCSg==,US,,1497278008 129581852,129610437,2017-06-12 14:34:46,">>129608132 >>129608453 >>129608826 >>129610088 Thanks for the insight bros.",,Anonymous,,,CR,,1497278086 129581852,129610613,2017-06-12 14:36:39,">>129589067 Sweatshops pay far better wages than other local businesses. They're oversubscribed",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497278199 129581852,129611339,2017-06-12 14:43:44,">>129589067 You ever notice that these sweatshops always seem to be in nations that aren't economically free? China, India, South America, etc.",,Anonymous,liberty.jpg,TkjCxq3qluZeq3cYMQxEhw==,US,,1497278624 129581852,129611423,2017-06-12 14:44:45,">>129595160 That's just as bad as the EU, Hoppe. What's needed is a return to nation-states, not a federation of them.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1497278685 129581852,129612863,2017-06-12 14:59:04,bump,,Anonymous,privatising_everything.jpg,oXEjAQ+TjJ54DqDmq1jPvw==,GB,,1497279544 129581852,129614026,2017-06-12 15:10:20,">>129608826 > Hurting children would be just as punishable an offense as any other property rights violation. There is no one to enforce said punishment for any of the offences that you have mentioned. You are imagining of a judge and police that exists out of thin air, that holds the same values as yours. I am not sure why the world would not end up in a similar fashion to today's shit-storm even if you completely abolish all institutions. You also have no plan at all, except a wish, to make this into habbenings.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1497280220 129581852,129614092,2017-06-12 15:10:50,">>129605602 Niggers don't work or don't work hard, they speak broken English or whatever country are in that's not in Africa, they make poor life choices and blame others and society for their misdeeds, niggers commit crime for the sake of swag and being a baller, niggers have kids that they don't take care of, niggers do hard drugs, niggers don't go to school, niggers are racist, niggers are commies. Pick one or all.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1497280250 129581852,129614290,2017-06-12 15:12:52,">>129605632 I will once I get my inheritance, and open a liqueur store and a dive bar in Texas, and if I get citizenship I will open a gun store, that's my life long dream.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1497280372 129581852,129614519,2017-06-12 15:15:07,">>129604305 Only on your land tho. As long as you pay tax the entirety of the state is the common land of all. You lose that right once tax is abolished. Because your land becomes limited to your property.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1497280507 129581852,129614747,2017-06-12 15:17:28,">>129614290 its pretty fucked that all you want is to open a dive bar and a gun store and the state makes it hard for you. Good luck to you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497280648 129581852,129614982,2017-06-12 15:19:32,"Since you listed McVeigh I'm going to assume you like the Turner Diaries as well Its the worst fucking book I've ever suffered through no wonder libertarians are a huge fucking joke that got old in 2012 already may I suggest suicide",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497280772 129581852,129616028,2017-06-12 15:29:50,">>129597963 >How are my friends doing today? Considering the leftist dyke Kathleen Wynne is raising the minimum wage, not so well",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497281390 129581852,129616265,2017-06-12 15:32:19,">>129614026 A priori false just like the rest of your ramblings. Read The Ethics of Liberty by Rothbard and the chapter on children's rights if you're interested. >>129614290 Good luck Saudibro. >>129614982 We like McVeigh because he bombed a federal building.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497281539 129581852,129617550,2017-06-12 15:44:39,">>129614982 Who? Do you mean Timothy ""Physically removing a federal building"" McVeigh?",,Anonymous,tucker_presidents_debate.jpg,2YTv36+rifoUdgCQ6Szdeg==,GB,,1497282279 129581852,129618442,2017-06-12 15:53:32,">>129614519 That's why I'm an ancap",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1497282812 129581852,129619604,2017-06-12 16:05:41,bump,,Anonymous,1486913385866.jpg,HFtJskRh5Un3Qlz7m7E/oA==,US,,1497283541 129581852,129620783,2017-06-12 16:17:10,">le who will build the roads HP unironically built a railroad from China to Poland to get their laptops to Europe: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/05/chinas-continent-spanning-trains-are-running-half-empty-one-belt-one-road-bri/",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1497284230 129581852,129622609,2017-06-12 16:35:22,">>129581852 Friedman should be /lrg/-approved, primarily for being flawless in debates, but also for the massive butthurt generated by the Chicago bois",,Anonymous,3965809597_f5f38e74d9.jpg,ZZmE2Rsn/HVIKo8XC90d5g==,BG,,1497285322 129581852,129624707,2017-06-12 16:55:54,>>129622609,,Anonymous,Friedman.png,XMc+yAZJhBMiiFkQhvuYXw==,US,,1497286554 129647991,129647991,2017-06-12 20:34:39,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >/lrg/ Chatroom d i s c o r d: y3BzZM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,liberty.jpg,PT+sAyNMWqXvhhsExizzfA==,US,,1497299679 129647991,129648257,2017-06-12 20:37:30,">>129647991 make a book club",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497299850 129647991,129648283,2017-06-12 20:37:56,post hoppe quotes,,Anonymous,new_class_of_permanent_degenerates.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,GB,,1497299876 129647991,129648353,2017-06-12 20:38:37,I find myself gravitating to this ideology specifically because my capitalist life is going well and comfortably,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497299917 129647991,129648369,2017-06-12 20:38:44,">>129647991 sup nigs >>129648257 there's already a book club",,Anonymous,1458006016378.jpg,VA35LgvMiaQTZ8N62PPIQA==,US,,1497299924 129647991,129648660,2017-06-12 20:41:51,God bless /lrg/,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497300111 129647991,129648686,2017-06-12 20:42:05,Let the commies hit the floor,,Anonymous,Augusto_Pinochet.jpg,/UsEiF5s2QgMobRanlqCeQ==,CA,,1497300125 129647991,129648836,2017-06-12 20:43:44,">>129648369 the book club is a separate server for no reason and it's not even obligatory, despite being named 'Libertarian book club'",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497300224 129647991,129649599,2017-06-12 20:52:13,MAKE A BOOK CLUB,,Anonymous,1497311577939.png,fenPFhPG6jUSWovGoNau6g==,US,,1497300733 129647991,129649693,2017-06-12 20:53:11,">>129649599 t. top fig",,Anonymous,lrg_pixel.png,xP6KIZfw7GvOFt8sUL00Lg==,GB,,1497300791 129647991,129650103,2017-06-12 20:57:41,Remember those jobs you used to have?,,Anonymous,976877_2179fae5793d632763a8891241bd192f.jpg,Y4w6KTbxvqhlqOPtlEIsYw==,US,,1497301061 129647991,129650401,2017-06-12 21:01:22,,,Anonymous,Tread.png,bTCi8KXs0Rv4o/bw47BGWw==,US,,1497301282 129647991,129650531,2017-06-12 21:02:48,"I think I'm starting to fall in love with this thread... I thought I was gonna be a centrist, but y'all are just too rad for me, damn it :/",,Anonymous,IMG_20170602_191548613.jpg,WabiYWggfri+jqD1GWmi5w==,US,,1497301368 129647991,129650681,2017-06-12 21:04:36,">>129650531 right on.",,Anonymous,1488084289049.jpg,DIPClpab/CrLjGN4Z4d97w==,US,,1497301476 129647991,129652076,2017-06-12 21:20:50,bump.,,Anonymous,C6GfhvVUwAECmr1.jpg,zW+d9XwOdpST2016gzeDDQ==,US,,1497302450 129647991,129652136,2017-06-12 21:21:25,>>129648283,,Anonymous,blue (3).jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,US,,1497302485 129647991,129652200,2017-06-12 21:22:05,">>129648283 >>129652136",,Anonymous,misc (4).jpg,loryyDKMeZx40HWKilOZfw==,US,,1497302525 129647991,129652483,2017-06-12 21:25:33,">>129650103 Now you need other jobs to produce and maintain those machines. No to mention the replacement, logistic and updates.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497302733 129647991,129653203,2017-06-12 21:34:02,,,Anonymous,LIVE_REE_OR_DIE.png,OWjYVSk4MpCrSo8lpRlBBA==,US,,1497303242 129708900,129708900,2017-06-13 09:30:50,"Fly whatever flag you want edition This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >READING: http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >DISCORD: /BTJwVkf",/lrg/- Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,2jYmNGS.jpg,Nucw5Dc+zWbUULG8RWj84w==,US,,1497346250 129708900,129709018,2017-06-13 09:31:56,">>129708900 reporting in to seize means of production",,Anonymous,,,,,1497346316 129708900,129709678,2017-06-13 09:37:50,">>129709018 Ye're nah taxin' me booty ye filthy communist landlubber",,Anonymous,,,,,1497346670 129708900,129710157,2017-06-13 09:42:00,">>129708900 >Pinochet >Libertarian",,Anonymous,Political-Compass_Pics.jpg,OKmIhn0i2cxah3XFbCVnEA==,,,1497346920 129711410,129711410,2017-06-13 09:53:49,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >/lrg/ Chatroom d i s c o r d: y3BzZM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads","/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - KILL EM ALL, LET THE MARKET SORT IT OUT.",Anonymous,file.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,US,,1497347629 129711410,129711702,2017-06-13 09:56:35,">>129711410 seize means of production",,Anonymous,,,,,1497347795 129711410,129711814,2017-06-13 09:57:45,">>129711702 Or you could open a business.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1497347865 129711410,129711869,2017-06-13 09:58:12,,,Anonymous,Means_To_Liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1497347892 129711410,129711923,2017-06-13 09:58:34,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1497347914 129711410,129711962,2017-06-13 09:58:56,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1497347936 129711410,129712559,2017-06-13 10:04:13,Killing communists is always in defense of non-aggression.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1497348253 129711410,129712849,2017-06-13 10:06:41,">>129712559 True.",,Anonymous,147947sgsd8620s.jpg,LRrEGklSWTdma9Of3ZKxSQ==,,,1497348401 129711410,129713100,2017-06-13 10:09:14,,,Anonymous,Race.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,US,,1497348554 129711410,129713153,2017-06-13 10:09:39,,,Anonymous,bpuw8sxhjr4y.png,0R57Vo/V/fFC0waf5BMPDQ==,US,,1497348579 129711410,129713416,2017-06-13 10:11:50,">>129711814 TOP KEK",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497348710 129711410,129713639,2017-06-13 10:13:57,">>129711410 IN",,Anonymous,fzYPeNQNPdrVXg9Z3_66Pg-Ed_c1ZJEPs5BZKGb6spU.jpg,9agonPBAEajzMTh+X/Bzaw==,,,1497348837 129711410,129714303,2017-06-13 10:19:48,">>129713639 WUZ I don't know where you're going with this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497349188 129711410,129714671,2017-06-13 10:22:46,,,Anonymous,1487897508290.jpg,uSeKjXjuNSVghw98qK1dTQ==,US,,1497349366 129711410,129714996,2017-06-13 10:25:50,">>129711410 >y3BzZM >invite expired",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1497349550 129711410,129715356,2017-06-13 10:29:16,">>129714996 Well shit. I don't know how to make a new one. I'm also skeptical of rabbi's. Someone else'll have to help out. >>129714671 Drop those commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497349756 129711410,129716568,2017-06-13 10:39:38,,,Anonymous,Master_Race.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1497350378 129711410,129716848,2017-06-13 10:42:03,">>129716568 ""Free bread"" ""no roads"" What's this nonesense?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497350523 129711410,129717246,2017-06-13 10:45:19,">>129716848 >There's no such thing as free bread you fucking socialist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497350719 129711410,129717955,2017-06-13 10:51:02,">>129717246 I know, I know, that's what I'm saying. I think we should leave board memes to alt-righters and just let us speak truth and clarity so intelligent people see what we're about.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497351062 129775789,129775789,2017-06-13 17:48:36,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >/lrg/ Chatroom d i s c o r d : Tucrr4X >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - NU-FAGS MUST ASSIMIALTE EDITION,Anonymous,Classic2.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,,,1497376116 129775789,129775944,2017-06-13 17:49:46,">>129775789 Hey hey! Ho Ho! Garry Johnson has got to go!",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497376186 129775789,129776059,2017-06-13 17:50:38,">>129775789 How is the freedom movement in your country growing? America needs ethno-nationalism first freedom second. Ours is growing very strongly and most likely will go into goverment next year.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497376238 129775789,129776193,2017-06-13 17:51:52,">>129775944 Who? You mean Gary ""Bake cakes for niggers whilst I make the state bigger"" Johnson?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497376312 129775789,129776225,2017-06-13 17:52:15,">>129775944 Yes, LOLbergs need not apply. >>129776059 Nationalist movements are growing. not as fast as i'd like but its happening. tbqh American Nationalism is tied to Liberty. were fed up with welfare and therefore niggers too.",,Anonymous,Normal_Ancap.png,0cj87/YtlHkwyisfLCRUVQ==,,,1497376335 129775789,129776382,2017-06-13 17:53:22,"Can't wait when we will start physically removing communists, democrats and degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497376402 129775789,129776480,2017-06-13 17:54:14,">>129775789 Can Piratism be officially recognized? I just want to sail the high seas and own my own island.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497376454 129775789,129776565,2017-06-13 17:54:56,">>129776193 You mean Garry ""From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"" Johnson? >>129776480 As long as it's voluntary and doesn't violate anyone's NAP.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497376496 129775789,129776626,2017-06-13 17:55:18,">>129776382 The day of the removal draws closer every day. In the meantime wave your freedom flags, post propaganda and sneks. >>129776480 Pirates are cool. basically oldschool AnCaps.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497376518 129775789,129776690,2017-06-13 17:55:44,">>129775944 Boop boop! Beep beep! Remove the leftists, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497376544 129775789,129776869,2017-06-13 17:56:58,">>129776480 I see nothing wrong with that, aslong as you respect muh NAP",,Anonymous,,,,,1497376618 129775789,129776958,2017-06-13 17:57:38,"WHO LET THE ZOG OUT? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95tp4cH5dEA",,Anonymous,,,,,1497376658 129775789,129777221,2017-06-13 17:59:32,">>129776958 JEW! JEW! JEW! JEW! JEW!",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497376772 129775789,129777303,2017-06-13 18:00:07,">>129775789 >http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ Where in the world are Ayn Rand's works? ""The Virtue of Selfishness"" is mandatory. Add Objectivism to the OP as it lacks any epistemological -isms.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497376807 129775789,129777375,2017-06-13 18:00:36,"We might be meme-ing ourselves out of the EU soon, then death penalty, more self-defense rights and less gun control. In 2 years we might meme JKM into goverment with his ""freedom"" party.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497376836 129775789,129777447,2017-06-13 18:01:13,"We must mount a Snekist resistance against this Kekist domination! HISSSSSSSSSSSSS",,Anonymous,,,,,1497376873 129775789,129777467,2017-06-13 18:01:21,">>129777303 its an old list, we should work on a new one. Haven't gotten a hold of the website owner in a while either.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497376881 129775789,129777507,2017-06-13 18:01:40,">>129777303 also pic related.",,Anonymous,Rand.png,GwLsV8x1jBvWsD4RCHf9Cw==,,,1497376900 129775789,129777600,2017-06-13 18:02:20,">>129777447 Snek>Kek",,Anonymous,snek (9).png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,,,1497376940 129775789,129777694,2017-06-13 18:03:00,"I'm new to this. How is physical removal libertarian? It seems exact opposite to me. Also how is Pinochet considered libertarian besides free markets and private ownership? He was a dictator.",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1497376980 129775789,129777871,2017-06-13 18:04:11,">>129777600 EXACTLY",,Anonymous,Snek > Kek.jpg,J6hmNYWJbrotLj5VlYBjwQ==,,,1497377051 129775789,129777917,2017-06-13 18:04:28,">>129777694 We don't give a fuck what's the goverment essentialy, it can be democratic, fascist, monarchist, as long as it promotes our values it's good. That's why we hate democracy, it always leads to communism. Basically Hoppe says what must be done to achieve libertarianism and that is physical removal of communists and democrats.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497377068 129775789,129778068,2017-06-13 18:05:31,">>129777467 >>129777507 http://douglasficek.com/teaching/phi-102/rand.pdf When the time comes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377131 129775789,129778187,2017-06-13 18:06:16,">>129777694 It isn't. These retards are just statists, Murray Rothbard would be rolling in his grave if he knew what he set in motion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377176 129775789,129778250,2017-06-13 18:06:43,">>129777694 Physical removal is harsh discrimination, prefectly valid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg&t=526s pretty good meme video for a rundown. Pinochet was not a libertarian, we consider him /ourguy/ because he took libertarian econ lessons from a jew and physically removed marxists. he's benevolent dictator tier.",,Anonymous,quote-personally-i-prefer-a-liberal-dictator-to-democratic-government-lacking-liberalism-friedrich-august-von-hayek-76-6-0666.jpg,wnJS1JrCZcWM4ZRucWA/fA==,,,1497377203 129775789,129778307,2017-06-13 18:07:08,">>129777694 Pre-emptive self defense against those who wish to tread upon us https://youtu.be/u-wMmYSG9JQ?list=LLe7SAJiAHZgjnLa73Bvy9uA",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377228 129775789,129778380,2017-06-13 18:07:46,">>129778187 Fuck off filthy NAP violating, people murdering faggot.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497377266 129775789,129778388,2017-06-13 18:07:50,">>129778187 I'm glad commies mark themselves now, it'll be easier to collective laugh at them.",,Anonymous,1488752319484.jpg,CqIC18Eh7/OI6pdEeY2W5Q==,,,1497377270 129775789,129778492,2017-06-13 18:08:28,">>129777600 w-why do you have 9 sneks? Are you in a snek cult?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377308 129775789,129778516,2017-06-13 18:08:38,">>129778380 >>129778388 I'm not a commie, I'm a market anarchist, it's just that unfortunately the anarchist flag defaults to ancom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377318 129775789,129778579,2017-06-13 18:09:05,">>129777694 Physical removed doesn't mean 'do away with'. It can be via discrimination, exclusion from society (hoppe likens it to excommunication) on up etc. Remember this happens within the context of a covenant - a group of people who have formed a community to live a certain way, so basically you break the community rules, you get booted. >pinched Based his economy on a group of economists who were students of freidman - the Chicago boys. Plus he helicopter education commies",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377345 129775789,129778800,2017-06-13 18:10:38,">>129778492 I have more than 9 sneks.",,Anonymous,snek (22).png,ZJUzc6WPaHObMTxjZmkz+Q==,,,1497377438 129775789,129778863,2017-06-13 18:11:02,this one looks cooler,,Anonymous,1494536560128.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,,,1497377462 129775789,129778960,2017-06-13 18:11:52,">>129778516 What does ""market anarchist mean"" are you like free trade guy or what?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497377512 129775789,129778968,2017-06-13 18:11:54,">>129778516 so? Jeffery Cucker fan?",,Anonymous,jeffrey-tucker.jpg,kyCXU7+NM+E6OAA6X0+VPw==,,,1497377514 129775789,129779008,2017-06-13 18:12:10,">>129778516 >market anarchist, Well so are we - free market anarchists... Or did you mean (((marxist)))?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377530 129775789,129779110,2017-06-13 18:12:57,">>129778800 Gotta be behind at least 7 sneks, mate",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377577 129775789,129779151,2017-06-13 18:13:12,">>129778863 What about this one? for the ancap crypto-monarchists.",,Anonymous,Monarchy.png,shQ0vXATgrTRWOoqBgtuOg==,,,1497377592 129775789,129779165,2017-06-13 18:13:15,">>129777917 >fascist >monarchist >able to promote our values In any event the thing you are looking for is Meritocracy. Democracy is fine for the political process only. Democracy does not belong in social issues or economics. ""I object to the idea that the people have the right to vote on everything. The traditional American system was a system based on the idea that majority will prevailed only in public or political affairs. And that it was limited by inalienable individual rights, therefore I do not believe that a majority can vote a man’s life, or property, or freedom away from him. Therefore, I do not believe that if a majority votes on any issue, that this makes the issue right, it doesn’t.” “There is nothing wrong with the democratic process in politics. By the constitutional powers, as we had it, people elect officials, but the powers of those officials, the powers of government are strictly limited. They will have no right to initiate force or compulsion against any citizen, except a criminal. Those who have initiated force will be punished by force, and that is the only proper function of government. What we would not permit is the government to initiate force against people who have hurt no one, who have not forced anyone. We would not give the government, or the majority, or any minority, the right to take the life or the property of others. That was the original American system.” “I’m opposed to all forms of control. I am for an absolute laissez-faire, free, unregulated economy. Let me put it briefly. I’m for the separation of state and economics. Just as we had separation of state and church, which led to peaceful co-existence among different religions, after a period of religious wars, so the same applies to economics. If you separate the government from economics, if you do not regulate production and trade, you will have peaceful cooperation, and harmony, and justice among men.” ----Ayn Rand, interview with Mike Wallace",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377595 129775789,129779303,2017-06-13 18:14:21,,,Anonymous,1478927137039.png,XBSbEuNDqcmmXdxWzgpPHw==,,,1497377661 129775789,129779333,2017-06-13 18:14:31,">>129776565 >>129776626 >>129776869 Cool, just know international waters anything goes.",,Anonymous,Ancap_3.png,GaAOKp0jrUfl6oJDQnR/9g==,,,1497377671 129775789,129779408,2017-06-13 18:15:11,">>129779151 Looks great.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497377711 129775789,129779416,2017-06-13 18:15:15,">>129779333 I understand.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377715 129775789,129779444,2017-06-13 18:15:29,">>129779151 That's great expanded mate, but you can't make it out too well in the thumbnail",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377729 129775789,129779501,2017-06-13 18:16:00,">>129778800 >more than 9 sneks Are you going to flood the rare snek market while making a killing? Seems like something a Anarcho-Capitalist should do, .",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377760 129775789,129779554,2017-06-13 18:16:28,"Any of you listening to: Not an argument or 1433 ?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497377788 129775789,129779555,2017-06-13 18:16:28,">>129779333 this man get it, someone give him some grog.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377788 129775789,129779611,2017-06-13 18:16:57,Libertarian wassup,,Anonymous,,,,,1497377817 129775789,129779694,2017-06-13 18:17:35,">>129779333 Arr, physically remove those scurvy commies, Jim lad",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377855 129775789,129779712,2017-06-13 18:17:45,">>129779444 yeahs its pretty grimey. well i've got plenty more.",,Anonymous,Untitled-1.png,eSb++sxdgz+SxgvAtXhCXQ==,,,1497377865 129775789,129779876,2017-06-13 18:18:58,">>129779554 I listen to Cantwell almost every morning. Molymemes less often but i still check in on him.",,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,,,1497377938 129775789,129779917,2017-06-13 18:19:14,">>129779712 Can I get the Punk's not red and Ron Paul with text?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497377954 129775789,129780002,2017-06-13 18:19:45,">>129779712 pls post those rare Hoppes",,Anonymous,,,,,1497377985 129775789,129780196,2017-06-13 18:21:10,">>129779712 >cum uncontrollably",,Anonymous,1485954578776.png,f3CVF7R7h6uAaprf2ry5rw==,,,1497378070 129775789,129780266,2017-06-13 18:21:37,">>129778863 >>129778960 >>129779008 I'm an anarchist in the vein of Benjamin Tucker or Albert Jay-Nock (who Murray Rothbard cited as his biggest influence on him next to Mises). Murray is god for his intentions, but he fucks up on a few points which make him easy to put a negative spin on and ridicule. Hoppe has merit for getting Rothbard's fuck ups and taking them to their natural conclusion. Don't have anything against him as a person other than his rambling about the gays and blacks. You have to be realistic and understand this is not something which wins hearts and minds in the current world, what he did damaged us a lot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378097 129775789,129780289,2017-06-13 18:21:46,">>129779501 I'm playing the long investment game. you gotta have a low time preference for the big payoff. that being said, I don't giving to the people lacking in sneks. I'm a wealth creator.",,Anonymous,snek (6).png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,,,1497378106 129775789,129780465,2017-06-13 18:22:54,">>129780266 Nah, these people never cared and never will care for freedom. We have to understand leftists are our natural enemies.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497378174 129775789,129780887,2017-06-13 18:25:45,Bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1497378345 129775789,129780915,2017-06-13 18:25:56,">>129780465 >Tucker and Jay-Nock >Leftists Do you even care about intellectual integrity? his is why we're going nowhere, people don't even have the curiosity or the nuance to explore minor variations in their thought.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378356 129775789,129781024,2017-06-13 18:26:42,">>129780266 people want free gibs, not freedom. we must not pander falsehoods to gain support but rather remove totalitarian leftists that protect the gibs-culture.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378402 129775789,129781089,2017-06-13 18:27:10,"Q. What is Capitalism, Individualism, Libertarianism, Conservatism, Egosim, and Meritocracy combined? A. Objectivism",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378430 129775789,129781276,2017-06-13 18:28:34,">>129780915 You're in libertarian circles, we've read around. I myself have spent many, many autistic years reading. I have come the the conclusions that I have not for ignorant reasons.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378514 129775789,129781370,2017-06-13 18:29:25,">>129780915 I was speaking about the people that Hoppe ""segregated"" from our movement.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497378565 129775789,129781418,2017-06-13 18:29:44,So do ancaps and libertarians generally get along?,,Anonymous,,,,,1497378584 129775789,129781472,2017-06-13 18:30:04,">>129781370 do you mean the conservatives that have inflitrated the libertarian party?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378604 129775789,129781473,2017-06-13 18:30:05,">>129780915 Got to admit I haven't read those guys",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378605 129775789,129781561,2017-06-13 18:30:40,">>129781418 yeah, AnCaps are just libertarianism taken to its final destination.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378640 129775789,129781623,2017-06-13 18:31:04,">>129781418 Yea they do. Anarcho-capitalism is just libertarianism taken to its conclusion",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378664 129775789,129781820,2017-06-13 18:32:34,>>129779917,,Anonymous,PunksNotRed.png,KVDtOyxxpe5kskjV+69peg==,,,1497378754 129775789,129781822,2017-06-13 18:32:35,">>129781418 Yes, if their rw libs rather than allepo Johnson types. While libertarians are minarchist, we'd rather just sack the govt off...",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378755 129775789,129781874,2017-06-13 18:32:53,Is Pat Buchanan right-libertarian?,,Anonymous,,,,,1497378773 129775789,129781879,2017-06-13 18:32:55,">>129779917 and ron",,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,,,1497378775 129775789,129781935,2017-06-13 18:33:16,>>129780002,,Anonymous,hoppe.png,ufN6Jd6VfH1nACBRevadYQ==,,,1497378796 129775789,129781960,2017-06-13 18:33:24,">>129781472 kek >>129781418 A movement more radical than a similiar movement is allies up to the point where the gap in ideas shows up. >>129781820 >>129781879 Thanks so much.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497378804 129775789,129782010,2017-06-13 18:33:46,">>129781418 I doubt anyone here went straight for ancapism without going through libertarianism before. Breaking with the conditioning of the state education goes progressively. So we see libertarians as us, 10 books ago. I myself was a libertarian until I came up with potential solutions to a lack of monopoly of violence. I still would like the progress to anarcho capitalism to be through massive decentralization instead of a ""les revenants"" government disappearance.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378826 129775789,129782131,2017-06-13 18:34:35,">>129781874 paleo-conservative. not exactly but he fits in with this crew. >>129780002",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right_(3).png,ec7mt/E7VeFDRS2o99pSww==,,,1497378875 129775789,129782168,2017-06-13 18:34:50,">>129779151 that's fucking sick, man. nice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497378890 129775789,129782223,2017-06-13 18:35:15,">>129780002 this is a very common one, dont know if you wanted this too.",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1497378915 129775789,129782289,2017-06-13 18:35:46,">>129782168 thanks mate.",,Anonymous,341bRLiZXGzp3HfpZTXB8yBtAjd-HvfTOuONYTQKn48.jpg,8t6dnew/c3nLxoz6fOFMoQ==,,,1497378946 129775789,129782517,2017-06-13 18:37:28,">>129781418 Yeah. Laissez-faire Capitalism>AnCap but Anarcho capitalism is close enough to to make little difference. Enough that we can solidly ""get along"" easily enough.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379048 129775789,129782614,2017-06-13 18:38:04,"You guys are the least toxic ideology when it comes to open discussion, so props for that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379084 129775789,129782687,2017-06-13 18:38:38,">>129777694 M E M E S",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379118 129775789,129782766,2017-06-13 18:39:20,">>129782517 Laissez-faire is Anarcho-Capitalism. it is non-intevention. Non-Aggression.",,Anonymous,AnarchistGadsden.png,YB/46et2ZZC+7S0LzOEFsA==,,,1497379160 129775789,129782774,2017-06-13 18:39:24,">>129775789 Gay Pride Worldwide",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379164 129775789,129782782,2017-06-13 18:39:30,">>129781370 Not all of them are bad people, and the way things are are the minute do you really think we can go anywhere without out at least trying to convert naive lefties? I mean the ones who are non-committal, not the full blown retards. >>129781276 Does it not worry you that someone who is born into a world where all or most land is privately owned is born in a disenfranchised state, which very much resembles what it's like for a person to be born into a state? Where are you free if everywhere you stand you have to abide by the rules of others, and can only escape this status with the permission of others?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379170 129775789,129782865,2017-06-13 18:40:06,">>129777507 Thanks, based purple quadrant bro, Rand memes are ultra rare",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1497379206 129775789,129782905,2017-06-13 18:40:26,">>129782614 Get out you peace loving kike reeee! Just kidding, thanks. We are probably the ideology that reads the most. >>129782782 A lot of them are just retards, sure I try but it's really fucking hard. >>129782774 Not in my private society degenerate.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497379226 129775789,129782993,2017-06-13 18:41:00,">>129782614 Thanks. I believe the huge amount of ancap flag users today shows that we're doing something right indeed.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497379260 129775789,129783112,2017-06-13 18:42:05,">>129782782 To the question you asked the other guy, yes. Becuase it's either that or it's goverment owned. With hard work and intelligence and providing good serices you can gain actual power and that's good because you're creating wealth.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497379325 129775789,129783176,2017-06-13 18:42:31,">>129782010 Do you have any opinion on Jeff Deist's whole ""decentralise and let the leftists have their progressive hell holes, so long as we can have our own communities"" thing? To the extent of letting California have its own single payer healthcare nonsense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379351 129775789,129783257,2017-06-13 18:43:15,Does this one count? A little old but whatevs,,Anonymous,1340044431994.png,GwQxoXV0mmVkU4fVgYs5ww==,,,1497379395 129775789,129783507,2017-06-13 18:45:06,>>129783257,,Anonymous,1347317946400.jpg,8eIHiZKNUd292dPGJEnBZA==,,,1497379506 129775789,129783540,2017-06-13 18:45:24,">>129782782 No, it seems only natural for man to start at zero. Not only does it not bother me, but i don't believe newly born children are left to fend for themselves. They have grandparents, aunts, uncles, parents, siblings, and whole communities that can care for them with their own free will. I don't believe it is just to rob and steal on a massive scale to be the parent of an orphan. Not only does it not bother me, but i don't believe newly born children are left to fend for themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379524 129775789,129783578,2017-06-13 18:45:40,>>129783507,,Anonymous,1351011751879.jpg,QWTIxc00l24dJ0q3Ztnz1g==,,,1497379540 129775789,129783648,2017-06-13 18:46:06,">>129783176 I agree, in fact that's what we advocate for in /lrg, but California is too big, decentralize further to reduce migration tragedy.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497379566 129775789,129783714,2017-06-13 18:46:41,"As a Libertarian, I have a question for other libs and especially ancaps How could an ancap/lib society prevent something like Flint Water Crisis?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379601 129775789,129783851,2017-06-13 18:47:36,">>129783176 Anarcho capitalism concludes every society will have it's own rules. For example I want to live in a society with no degenerates and other races, while other races might want to live with each other exc.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497379656 129775789,129783919,2017-06-13 18:48:10,">>129779554 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNtAIqbzcHo >not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497379690 129775789,129783954,2017-06-13 18:48:23,">>129783176 I'd be cool with it if we could have a civil segregation. draw borders and such. It'd be disaterous for both of us to have mainlands with small revolting communities everywhere.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379703 129775789,129783989,2017-06-13 18:48:40,">>129783176 You can have a covenant based on any set of values you want, as long as it's all voluntary. Not at the state level though, at least not in ancapistan",,"Ozymandias, king of kings",,,,,1497379720 129775789,129784055,2017-06-13 18:49:16,">>129783176 In fact, I believe that under anarcho capitalism, there could be cities where two neighbors have different laws depending on their insurance. It would be like if you only received the laws of the party you voted for, and then for conflict between different party voters there would be third party arbitration. Segregation is a possible result of anarcho capitalism, but I think there's potential for other methods in the market.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497379756 129775789,129784207,2017-06-13 18:50:35,">>129782223 thanks famalam",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379835 129775789,129784236,2017-06-13 18:50:46,">>129782766 Well not /is/ anarcho capitalism. Slight differences and purposes are what the names imply. Separation of state and economics doesn't automatically imply anarchy. It actually *is* wise for the state to have a monopoly on the police force and emergency services (but only those) They are conceptually different from other organizational entities.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379846 129775789,129784344,2017-06-13 18:51:28,">>129783714 people could stop paying for the water unless they cleaned it, or use someone elses service. The company would loose profit and have good incentive to give the people what they want. shit like that doesn't really happen with voluntary paid for service. producers want to get paid. the goverment doesn't need to get paid, they just take.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379888 129775789,129784565,2017-06-13 18:53:07,">>129782905 >A lot of them are just retards You aren't wrong. On the other thing, I agree that we have to keep property out of state hands at all costs. But most right libertarians seem to believe there should be some sort of agreed upon overall legal code. I don't think it's any more statist to include in this that a person should be entitled to a place to stand without being beholden to anyone. >>129783540 You don't start at zero though, that's the problem; you start at less than zero. If you came into the world in a state of nature, you would come into one where there was virgin land for you to appropriate by nothing other than labour, that's starting at zero. When all land becomes privately owned you need both your labour and to satisfy the whims of those who came before you, hoping they will eventually consent to you having property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497379987 129775789,129784716,2017-06-13 18:54:08,">>129783714 I am from the area. Flint is full of problems, mostly stemming from the population >corrupt city council that knew about the problem, but did nothing >citizens who are unable or unwilling to pay their water bill >which in turn makes it difficult to fund water treatment >people stealing the water I actually learned it is really easy to do, you just need a wrench and know where your water access point is >then the usual things that happen when people do not have water kick in >then the city council denies there is a problem and when forced to admit there is a problem, refuses to take accountability for it at all. The whole thing is a mess from a combination of poor or malicious government oversight and a poor populace that is either incapable of paying for basic services or would rather steal it anyways.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380048 129775789,129784731,2017-06-13 18:54:15,">>129776480 this muh Pirate Code",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380055 129775789,129784761,2017-06-13 18:54:30,">>129778187 You mean Murray ""Unleash the police"" Rothbard would be disgusted at what we're trying to achieve? Fuck off commie.",,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,,,1497380070 129775789,129784783,2017-06-13 18:54:41,">>129784565 >I agree that we have to keep property out of state hands at all costs. >anarcho-communist",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380081 129775789,129784830,2017-06-13 18:55:04,">>129779712 make one with pirates welcome lad",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380104 129775789,129784891,2017-06-13 18:55:32,"One more question guys. In a lib society or ancap society, what would happen to those who cant physically work, such as my dad who is on disabililty ? A new Libertarian",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380132 129775789,129785011,2017-06-13 18:56:32,"So now how do we establish who is Portobro, Maltabro, Britishbro and /Founding Father/ if we're going to use these dank flags?",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1497380192 129775789,129785063,2017-06-13 18:56:55,">>129784891 You might find this an interesting read. Dont let your blood boil too much though.",,Anonymous,How Government Solved the (first) Healthcare Crisis.png,ToJnpEms2s4wNkpzgsgrqQ==,,,1497380215 129775789,129785069,2017-06-13 18:56:58,">>129784055 >>129783989 >>129783648 >>129783851 >>129783954 I agree with this a lot, no one really seems to use the kind of panarchist argument much but it seems really powerful. The price of living in a place worth living is probably allowing others to live in one which isn't, not forcing some one size fits all universalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380218 129775789,129785080,2017-06-13 18:57:02,">>129783714 Just privatise it, apply this to anything. If you privatise it, they have to make a profit = good quality low price to satisfy customer. Flint just gets gibs from theft from taxpayers. >>129784565 I have heard some philosophers argue that the law will be privatised, essentialy some people paying a service that believes in death sentence, while some not. >>129784891 Either you pay for him, one of you family pays for him, or he has to get on a private charity. Private charities exist in great numbers even today.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497380222 129775789,129785097,2017-06-13 18:57:08,">>129784830 Commies walk the plank memes...",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380228 129775789,129785184,2017-06-13 18:57:43,">>129784891 If libs/an-caps were practical, they'd be ok with a limited social safety net for people like your father. The mostly likely answer you'll get, though, is ""charity""",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380263 129775789,129785200,2017-06-13 18:57:51,">>129784783 The flag says anarchist. The red is unfortunate, fuck commies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380271 129775789,129785286,2017-06-13 18:58:28,">>129785097 YARRRR! >>129785200 Mods are fags",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497380308 129775789,129785323,2017-06-13 18:58:42,">>129784891 Your family would provide for him; he would provide for himself by buying insurance coverage with the money he saved during the years or the money he inherited; he would go to a private charity. Private charities and private medical associations used to exist in the US before the New Deal and the Great Society projects and healthcare for a year was paid with a day's work. They also had orphanages, day-care centers, nurses for home births, etc.",,Anonymous,ancap pill.png,aX49el4Vl4itokoEAZIhww==,,,1497380322 129775789,129785381,2017-06-13 18:59:05,">>129785011 This is very important",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497380345 129775789,129785407,2017-06-13 18:59:19,">>129785011 I'm FF. I'm an attention whore so I'll out myself. might switch the flag up. sometimes im feeling some dixie.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380359 129775789,129785421,2017-06-13 18:59:22,">>129782782 Wow it's almost like reality imposes limits on behavior.",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1497380362 129775789,129785442,2017-06-13 18:59:32,">>129785200 Gotcha. Why not use the yellow? Pehaps they should have just added the A",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380372 129775789,129785505,2017-06-13 18:59:55,">>129785184 Although, if the Fed was ended, in effect ending the hidden inflation tax on goods and services, less and less people would need welfare, so I'd be totally fine with it if that were the case.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380395 129775789,129785593,2017-06-13 19:00:38,">>129785381 >>129785407 Well I'll be using the Dixie and the AnCap flag from now on, but if anyone needs to ""summon"" a specific person to answer a question we can just switch to normal flags.",,Anonymous,1488739999641.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,,,1497380438 129775789,129785656,2017-06-13 19:00:59,THIS ISNT THE RIGHT PIRATE FLAG REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,,Anonymous,luffyshock.gif,oGHyF40TObQCW8f4FA+2sA==,,,1497380459 129775789,129785668,2017-06-13 19:01:05,">>129777600 Unfortunately they are part of the free society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380465 129775789,129785671,2017-06-13 19:01:08,">>129784891 Churches.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380468 129775789,129785706,2017-06-13 19:01:20,">>129785323 How did the private charities work for those who couldnt work?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380480 129775789,129785773,2017-06-13 19:01:50,">>129775789 >Anarcho-Capitalism Literally a non-ideology. You cannot have effective property rights without a state to uphold them, making the entire AnCap meme a failure before it's ever even had the chance to implement itself.",,Anonymous,1497179167307.jpg,um3F+M+S0IXn3DS/qjeg+Q==,,,1497380510 129775789,129785908,2017-06-13 19:02:51,">>129785706 If someone can work he doesn't need charity in a free society, obviously. It's all based on morality. That's why religion is important.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497380571 129775789,129785968,2017-06-13 19:03:16,">>129784891 Most people don't fully realize but the extension of the state eliminated the need for church, interaction, being well liked, and is recently eliminating the need for family, people are living vain lives, no legacy whatsoever. This is key to understand libertarianism properly, our ideology leads to a functioning decentralized-help society where people have self-interest in bonding.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497380596 129775789,129786005,2017-06-13 19:03:35,">>129785668 Not if we physically remove them before the free society comes about. we aint in ancapistan yet. didn't you hear that pirate poster? international water (public property) is fair game for nap violation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380615 129775789,129786052,2017-06-13 19:03:49,">>129785773 >The argument is that the society is immature for this ideology Agreed. That's why we're spreading the gospel. So our great great great great grandchildren can remove communists on Mars.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497380629 129775789,129786053,2017-06-13 19:03:50,"just use trips brahs, secure trips",,^~,,,PT,,1497380630 129775789,129786054,2017-06-13 19:03:50,">>129776565 >as long as it doesn't violate anyone's NAPs How could piracy possibly not violate thr NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497380630 129775789,129786178,2017-06-13 19:04:45,">>129786054 intellectual property is a meme, they can download as many DVDs as they want.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380685 129775789,129786191,2017-06-13 19:04:51,">>129785407 I was only using the ancap flag ITT, but given I'm posting here I guess it's kind of obvious I'm some species of rw lib. Going back to the jack...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497380691 129775789,129786306,2017-06-13 19:05:45,">>129786054 International waters, the truest form of anarchy.",,Anonymous,Profile_1.png,bupYR7+TY1cYhKWJ9hSHHw==,,,1497380745 129775789,129786335,2017-06-13 19:06:02,">>129785773 Property rights stem from self ownership. This argument is old and tiresome.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380762 129775789,129786389,2017-06-13 19:06:24,">>129785706 Again, it was not unusual for people to recur to family and friends. There was (and still is) religion in place to help the needy. So... Yeah. Churches, communities, friends and family for those who could not have help but still deserved it.",,Anonymous,hoppe masses.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,,,1497380784 129775789,129786434,2017-06-13 19:06:47,">>129786052 >tfw you will never throw space commies out the shuttlecraft. Into the sun...",,Anonymous,b3bf057b69945a36a011d938e8853bf179cbc9718d36b486da77d5e54c86afb3.jpg,YfNPV/rQcZpdmyj7hOwu/g==,GB,,1497380807 129775789,129786444,2017-06-13 19:06:49,Let it be known I'm one of the regular Portubros.,,^~,,,,,1497380809 129775789,129786461,2017-06-13 19:06:58,">>129786178 We need to have discussion about intellectual property. What's the incentive to research when you can't make profit of new discoveries? >>129786054 The same reason why 10 people killing each-other and leaving one, when before they signed an agreement to a fight to death, isn't murder.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497380818 129775789,129786466,2017-06-13 19:07:01,">>129785080 >I have heard some philosophers argue that the law will be privatised I was under the impression that was more the enforcement of the law than the law itself? So the law is more objective and discovered like: https://mises.org/library/how-have-law-without-legislation There are probably people I'm not aware of who go fully in the direction of privatising the legal code though, should probably look into it. >>129785442 ""Capitalist"" is too bound up with statist privilege and corporate welfare, there is nothing better than a genuinely free-market but people just don't understand what these things means anymore. I am also deviant on the land question I guess.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380821 129775789,129786679,2017-06-13 19:08:43,">>129786191 I dig the flags, and I have a good set to choose from. >>129786444 I know you by your tripcode. m8",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380923 129775789,129786702,2017-06-13 19:08:51,">>129786178 People who upload ripped DVDs can be prosecuted under contract law for copyright breaking though. It's patents that are bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380931 129775789,129786706,2017-06-13 19:08:52,">>129786444 Noice senpai.",,Anonymous,lolita smugged.jpg,G9SB6mqYvl/RcP5OJRktog==,,,1497380932 129775789,129786812,2017-06-13 19:09:46,">>129786054 relax, we be just merchant vessels my boy. That is, unless ye decide to cross on",,Anonymous,,,,,1497380986 129775789,129786921,2017-06-13 19:10:34,">>129786702 well if you are the one who distributed it, you're probably breaching the terms of use. thats not IP, its a contract. the guys downloading it are innocent, the ripper is not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381034 129775789,129786974,2017-06-13 19:10:58,">>129785773 Which is why I prefer Laissez-faire Capitalism. Acheives the intent of AnCap while still being actualizable. AnCap is essentially just some concept for one to romantically think about.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381058 129775789,129786979,2017-06-13 19:11:02,">>129786702 i misread you. hold on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381062 129775789,129787118,2017-06-13 19:12:00,">>129786921 Well depends if you consider text on the dvd box or the cd a binding contract. It's a bit of a grey area.",,^~,,,,,1497381120 129775789,129787511,2017-06-13 19:15:01,">>129785011 4chan should offer both location and ideology flags. This is a clear market failure",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497381301 129775789,129787530,2017-06-13 19:15:10,">>129784891 The economy wouldn't be so fucked from inflation/national debt/fiat currency/overblown regulations/legal shields for corporations/the state wasting shit loads of money in general that your family would have plenty of spare money to look after him, and if you all died in the last car crash before roads are phased out private charities/community trusts/his old workplace would have enough money they could give him a pension. You'd also have less fraud with people who take financial help because if you're not forced to pay for it like taxes people would simply stop putting their money into that pension fund/charity/community trust that gets a reputation for letting lazy scammers take them for a ride and switch to another one that makes sure people need it or at least are open about letting almost anyone use them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381310 129775789,129787652,2017-06-13 19:16:03,">>129787118 no its not a gray area. you have to understand the terms",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381363 129775789,129787720,2017-06-13 19:16:29,">>129786921 >>129786979 I'm a bit unsure about the status of people downloading. I suppose if you help someone break a contract under other circumstances you're not liable, because you didn't sign it yourself right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381389 129775789,129787778,2017-06-13 19:16:53,">>129786466 The most basic law is common sense, morality and the NAP right. But some societies might hae their own way of thinking. I remember I watched this matthew drake video about law under anarcho-captalism and it was very convincing, but can't for the love of me find it.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497381413 129775789,129787849,2017-06-13 19:17:20,">>129787511 Hopefully based gookmoot will fix it. How excited are you for meeting Hoppe? You have to let him know his memes are all over the place. I have a feeling he's one of those guys with a great sense of humor who will love spending an afternoon browsing Hoppe memes on the internet while laughing and holding a glass of wine.",,Anonymous,hoppe check em.png,a0MepQNWpK+ksQ9fSimWYg==,,,1497381440 129775789,129787984,2017-06-13 19:18:21,">>129784891 UBI from land rents.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381501 129775789,129788099,2017-06-13 19:19:11,">>129787652 depends on the terms of the contract of course. today we have malformed contracts.",,^~,,,,,1497381551 129775789,129788175,2017-06-13 19:19:42,I'm a lolerbertarian my ideology is practical and applicable to the real world,,Anonymous,1494496958904.png,a2NOFZSuwcj4pEvkCPzkYg==,,,1497381582 129775789,129788374,2017-06-13 19:21:15,">>129787849 Oh I'm fucking excited. Within a month I'm meeting two of my biggest idols, Armin Van Buuren (yes, I'm a trancefag) and Hoppe. Malta sure seems like the place to be for me this summer. I will most likely try to show the work we're doing here in a positive light, not only to Hoppe but to whoever listens, and try to see if he's open for discussion so I can talk a bit about my thoughts.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497381675 129775789,129788523,2017-06-13 19:22:24,">>129788374 Hoppe is going to Malta?",,^~,,,,,1497381744 129775789,129788536,2017-06-13 19:22:29,">>129788175 i don't get what your image is supposed to convey. White young males are more Libertarian? Is that supposed to be a bad thing?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381749 129775789,129788580,2017-06-13 19:22:46,">>129788099 agreed, but if we adhered to strict property norms and contractual agreements that text would be valid as a contract.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381766 129775789,129788700,2017-06-13 19:23:41,">>129788523 Yep, he has a conference here in July with other libertarians. coraxconf",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497381821 129775789,129788996,2017-06-13 19:25:58,">>129788700 Fkn hell, won't let me view the site without disabling adblock...",,Anonymous,,,,,1497381958 129775789,129789025,2017-06-13 19:26:12,Am I the only one that is getting sick and tired of the NatSoc fags fucking up this board? They are retards when it comes to economics.,,Anonymous,,,,,1497381972 129775789,129789120,2017-06-13 19:27:05,">>129789025 I try to debate them every day but they keep on worshipping socialism and keep on calling me a kike. 1433",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497382025 129775789,129789150,2017-06-13 19:27:14,">>129788374 God damn I am so jelly... Best of luck my man. Meeting Hoppe is on my bucket list. Being in the presence of the Based God Remover Himself, Jesus Christ Almighty I'd give my child slave's left nut for that opportunity.",,Anonymous,hoppean anarcho capitalism.png,jHSFUY8F/GBZLyrUhClROw==,,,1497382034 129775789,129789160,2017-06-13 19:27:21,">>129788536 Nearly all lolerbertarians are White. How does this information fit in with what you already know about identity politics? What is the lolerbertarian approach to identity politics?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497382041 129775789,129789245,2017-06-13 19:28:00,">>129789025 I dont even talk about economics with. but I support all the anti-leftist shit and white pride worldwide.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497382080 129775789,129789329,2017-06-13 19:28:38,">>129789245 that post was awful. >I dont even talk about economics with them anymore.. but I support all the anti-leftist shit and some white pride worldwide.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497382118 129775789,129789612,2017-06-13 19:30:43,">>129789160 >What is the lolerbertarian approach to identity politics? we don't give a shit? what kind of ""approach"" were you looking for",,Anonymous,,,,,1497382243 129775789,129789943,2017-06-13 19:33:29,Bump. Fast moving board tonight...,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497382409 129775789,129789944,2017-06-13 19:33:30,">>129789160 many of us are race realists. some are cucks tho.",,Anonymous,Gg6Jn_kEfmCWpIkWw307xX3Tr8QMjJy21IKI7FRMyX0.jpg,hiRP4lPTTkAf2UvjY0VF9Q==,,,1497382410 129775789,129789974,2017-06-13 19:33:46,">>129789943 newfags, they must assimilate tho.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497382426 129775789,129790301,2017-06-13 19:36:14,">>129789612 Bingo. Now tell me how the fuck lolerbertarianism is any different from civic nationalism or multiculturalism or any other already proven failed race-blind ideology. Lolerbertarianism is essentially the sister ideology of liberalism for pacifistic white idealists.",,Anonymous,1493937969060.png,Geu6LkZsoQRSZS+flYy2tA==,,,1497382574 129775789,129790414,2017-06-13 19:37:16,">>129789025 >>129789120 Just ask them ""why not NatCap?"" they trip all over themselves trying to come up with something smart memey. Demand an answer. Oftimes I'm just completely ignored. Best I get is >Capitalism is a shekkel rubbing Jooish invention or >No! It's not socialism! Nationalsozialistische is /ONEWORD/ so it's a COMPLETELY different concept. But wasn't Hitler for massive public works programs, cradle to the grave benefits, absolute gun control, and complete planning and control of the economy? >l-lel shut up kike, get a load of this kike. Fucking insufferable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497382636 129775789,129790541,2017-06-13 19:38:21,">>129790301 Right of dissociation? If you don't grasp how vital for race-blinding forced integration is, then you're the blind one, my friend.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497382701 129775789,129790658,2017-06-13 19:39:16,">>129790301 And yet if the government didn't forcefully integrate people and threatened people who ""discriminate"" against certain people we would all live in peace since all human interaction would be voluntary when it comes to association.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497382756 129775789,129790739,2017-06-13 19:39:51,">>129789025 I'm honestly embarrassed seeing how many of them are here. I prefer not to know. The flags are a bad idea, and one I think that will be used to divide this board by shills and cia niggers.",,Anonymous,1497031243433.jpg,TsZKrJjuOInNHmlF+OvMkQ==,,,1497382791 129775789,129790757,2017-06-13 19:40:02,do you folks know the good word of Ron /ourguy/ paul. He DID write those redpilled newsletters.,,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,,,1497382802 129775789,129790811,2017-06-13 19:40:26,,,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,,,1497382826 129775789,129790958,2017-06-13 19:41:33,Oh fug yeah I lub these breads,,Anonymous,1497109555999.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,,,1497382893 129775789,129790984,2017-06-13 19:41:47,">>129790301 >or any other already proven failed race-blind ideology >ancap >race-blind Listen here you nigger, with no welfare, affirmative action, or any kind of central state support, all these degenerates and shitskins could not survive. Even more, you can have blatantly racially discriminating policies because who the fuck is going to stop you in your own private property You wanna know why liberals and communists hate capitalism? It's not just because it actually works, it's because it absolute SHITS ON degenerates and unproductive, self-destructive habits. Only strong traditionalist nuclear families can really survive AnCap, and that's the whole idea: to eliminate any kind of environment that allows degenerates to thrive. AnCap is eugenics, and don't you forget that",,Anonymous,,,,,1497382907 129775789,129791126,2017-06-13 19:42:53,">>129790811 checked Did Ron actually say this? I can't find it. It seems way too blunt to be a real quote.",,Anonymous,16711903_1859931024249311_6667848156629832350_n.jpg,oNlBmilQ+8zDQRLWumD4oQ==,,,1497382973 129775789,129791262,2017-06-13 19:44:10,">>129791126 newletters written by eirther him or Lew Rockwell. He denied writing them during his campaign. been doing research for months. no solid evidence. but im pretty sure it was him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497383050 129775789,129791265,2017-06-13 19:44:10,">>129791126 If anyone asks, he didn't write them. :-)",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote 3.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,,,1497383050 129775789,129791281,2017-06-13 19:44:19,">>129790301 Women's suffrage was a mistake.",,Anonymous,countpepe.png,MPqXACPV1SEHPL3xSRQVdw==,,,1497383059 129775789,129791542,2017-06-13 19:46:37,"I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief. “Bad news, detective. We got a situation.” “What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?” “Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.” The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?” “Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.” “Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.” He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.” “Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.” I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside. “Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t. “Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up. “Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?” It didn’t seem like they did.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497383197 129775789,129791573,2017-06-13 19:46:56,>>129791281,,Anonymous,100 years ago news.jpg,wCI+T8LwsIsg8q/DAcUp3w==,,,1497383216 129775789,129791641,2017-06-13 19:47:36,">>129791573 based.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497383256 129775789,129791667,2017-06-13 19:47:47,">>129791542 “Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.” Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing. I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it. “Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled. Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him. “Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen. I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!” He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose. “All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.” “Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy. “Because I was afraid.”",,Anonymous,,,,,1497383267 129775789,129791737,2017-06-13 19:48:21,">>129790658 >>129790984 >since all human interaction would be voluntary >shitskin state support will just be magicked away What do you think violence is? Who do you think are the primary victims of violence on national scales? The weak, pacifistic, disorganized, and idealistic pussies who actually believe shit will just work out in their favor when they stay atomized and complacent in the face of concerted aggression. Like I already said, lolerbertarianism is just LARPing and fantasy. We don't live in that kind of world. Surely it must just be a pet ideology to you people.",,Anonymous,de maistre.jpg,Ogrj21y9yjah84HJZFzoqA==,,,1497383301 129775789,129791756,2017-06-13 19:48:31,">>129791667 ""Afraid?” “Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.” I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head. “Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.” He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497383311 129775789,129792041,2017-06-13 19:50:45,">>129791641 How the times have changed",,Anonymous,1915_Boston-no-vote-for-women.jpg,OKbVIfK9UxP2NWSWkMirHg==,,,1497383445 129775789,129792079,2017-06-13 19:51:02,">>129789160 We don't have to pander to demographics to get our message across. I truly believe that if you present a cogent argument from both the consequential and ethical perspectives, Libertarianism just makes more sense than big gibs statism. I guess you could call me a newly-converted race-realist. I do believe that race is more than skin deep, and differences in what we would commonly define as 'race' can account for differences in social organization. But I'm not an ethno-nationalist. If there is no state (or a heavily limited one for you minarchists/classlibs), and if there are strong private property rights, differences between the races sort of become moot. If, say, a black person is genetically predisposed to be different from a white, these differences would mean next to nothing if there isn't a state apparatus for one or the other to exploit to their advantage at the expense of the other. But like I said in the beginning of this post, I think blacks and latinos and asians and whatever can 'get' the Libertarian arguments if they're presented properly. We just need more charismatic representatives, especially in the arts. (i know anarchyball is persona non gratta at this point, I just like some of the memes)",,Anonymous,C3giNzjW8AA57yd.jpg,5fv/QsNXw29quFOWdcnfXw==,,,1497383462 129775789,129792276,2017-06-13 19:52:43,">>129791573 this tbqh >>129791641",,Anonymous,1494903315558.jpg,XlwDNie/78ixxbUDI0xFKw==,,,1497383563 129775789,129792381,2017-06-13 19:53:36,">>129792041 nice, a saveable image.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497383616 129775789,129792529,2017-06-13 19:54:39,">>129791737 >What do you think violence is? what? if you get violent, you get shot for breaking the NAP. Don't act like a nigger, or you get treated like one >who actually believe shit will just work out in their favor when they stay atomized and complacent in the face of concerted aggression. what are you talking about. We don't believe it will just magically work, we KNOW it works. What ""concerted aggression""? Degenerates? Shitskins? I just told you, they would have nothing with no state to keep their asses around >Like I already said, lolerbertarianism is just LARPing and fantasy. We don't live in that kind of world. Surely it must just be a pet ideology to you people. not an argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1497383679 129775789,129792537,2017-06-13 19:54:43,">>129789025 just as bad as commies desu take away my rights to own a baby killing ar-666 and you can go fuck yourself",,Anonymous,z76.jpg,QXnKKlH6/OEU76my9xUz/A==,,,1497383683 129775789,129792630,2017-06-13 19:55:24,">>129791737 Can someone explain this quote? I'm too stupid to understand it. At first I thought it was talking about state violence, but now I'm thinking it's talking about the inherent chaos in the world which warrants self-ownership through self-defense.",,Anonymous,16003226_1343925395679128_155588294713094180_n.jpg,pxjobvGSPeXddxmI/X7I5w==,,,1497383724 129775789,129792633,2017-06-13 19:55:27,">>129792079 >If there is no state >I think blacks and latinos and asians and whatever can 'get' the Libertarian arguments if they're presented properly Will never happen. Lolerbertarianism won't work because non-Whites don't want it. They'll let you try it though, in order to use the state against you.",,Anonymous,1487933117656.png,JmegHouDXnf7myqXj23S9Q==,,,1497383727 129775789,129792637,2017-06-13 19:55:29,">>129792041 hot damn",,Anonymous,1293623-1.jpg,zGDxaE9nc/zJabg+7ToANQ==,,,1497383729 129775789,129792799,2017-06-13 19:56:54,how long until they take away flags,,Anonymous,,,,,1497383814 129775789,129792842,2017-06-13 19:57:08,">>129789025 /pol/ has become synonymous with natsoc I'm a relative newfag. Was this board actually lolber or was it natsoc from the beginning? I know this isn't exactly a neutral thread to ask this in, but I'm hoping I can get an unbiased answer from an oldfag.",,Anonymous,1495253859819.jpg,qvKnJD5QK0Br075ANpAw9A==,,,1497383828 129775789,129792892,2017-06-13 19:57:31,"You should read up on public goods theory. Some goods can only be provided efficiently by the state. Specifically, goods where people cannot be excluded from. Also, a state needs to have at least a police force to to maintain monopoly of force, the basis for civilization, trade etc.. Alternative would be a group of companies or families, which would evolve into some form of state anyway. Tax still needs to be capped at zero, and the state has to generate the needed funds by economic activity or investing themselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_good",,Anonymous,Untitled picture.png,hrsdcfKks3cgsAe0c7eSmQ==,,,1497383851 129775789,129792908,2017-06-13 19:57:36,">>129792630 The de maistre quote? As I understand it he's basically saying 'nature, red in tooth and claw' survival of the fittest...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497383856 129775789,129793040,2017-06-13 19:58:34,">>129792041 >Woman suffrage increases taxes, injures women, increases divorce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE8XJEeOpyA",,Anonymous,Women's suffrage John Lott.png,Cq3Bh6xSzq/7r1IrxhYndw==,,,1497383914 129775789,129793041,2017-06-13 19:58:34,">>129792637 >>129792276 >>129792381",,Anonymous,1372970830799.jpg,ImsnFaNnZ7z61YJ13xdPCQ==,,,1497383914 129775789,129793063,2017-06-13 19:58:52,">>129792842 /pol/ is a racist board. libertarians and natsocs alike. historically libertarian tho. nigger.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497383932 129775789,129793107,2017-06-13 19:59:15,">>129792633 How can you claim to speak for 'non-whites.' Whether or not they're different from whites, they are people with brains and can be reasoned with. And let's assume that non-whites just can't exist in our societies. As long as there's no state for them to exploit, they can go be mud-hut gaboons on their own and we can maintain our glorious white libertarian utopia without them. I mean, is Eric July not a real libertarian? Could he not exist in our society like a white person?",,Anonymous,Czzm2aZVQAIWA0J.jpg,EdxL8Qif1mjqdMXhpZhqtg==,,,1497383955 129775789,129793258,2017-06-13 20:00:24,>>129775789,,Anonymous,IMG_0696.jpg,/+HrR7H8g6bS6/JvJ2siZA==,,,1497384024 129775789,129793270,2017-06-13 20:00:28,">>129792842 It was libertarian but never as refined as what you find in /lrg topics nowadays, mostly hearsay and bandwagoning. I believe we're far more advanced in libertarianism today and we're gaining traction through arguments and quality threads instead of through momentum like in the Ron Paul era, which is how things should have been done.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497384028 129775789,129793282,2017-06-13 20:00:29,">>129792529 >if you get violent, you get shot for breaking the NAP This isn't even in the realm of possibility though. Non-Whites can't operate on that level of decentralization. They're too collectivistic. They're using identity politics and STATE VIOLENCE against Whites and lolerbertarians act like they're too smart and above it all to deign to participate in identity politics. It disgusts me. History is just a timeline of groups of people organizing and using violence to get what they want. NAP ancap-land is fucking communist utopia tier in terms of ignoring human nature.",,Anonymous,1493886433986.png,biRm3dCnJ7TUkbPi5MMPrQ==,,,1497384029 129775789,129793306,2017-06-13 20:00:52,">>129792633 wtf, I hate hispanics now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497384052 129775789,129793378,2017-06-13 20:01:25,">>129793258 >flag",,Anonymous,,,,,1497384085 129775789,129793457,2017-06-13 20:02:00,">>129793258 >Democrat WE GOT ONE BOYS!",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,,,1497384120 129775789,129793595,2017-06-13 20:03:17,">>129792633 Sorry I forgot to check in my first reply. Checked. Another point on that graph. You're showing a graph of responses by people who have been brainwashed. Blacks/women and the like, they've been totally spoonfed big gibs their entire life. I don't think it's fair to indict their inherent character based on our modern setup. The media is so fucking left wing, and anti-right sentiment is so entrenched in our culture, I don't think they've even been told the arguments against big gibs, or at least not well.",,Anonymous,16265591_1627689337526630_6847853972873314942_n (1).jpg,9FWEQI+3/9wmSas7s0MHnA==,,,1497384197 129775789,129793627,2017-06-13 20:03:33,">>129793378 Look who's talking. Square up fuckboy",,Anonymous,IMG_2771.jpg,b54iLwhaBOTEPsYkTSfB7A==,,,1497384213 129775789,129793919,2017-06-13 20:05:50,">>129793258 bffaahaha, thanks demoshit. saved",,Anonymous,1497121316407.jpg,y65LutcQk+Co/vAAXa0neA==,,,1497384350 129775789,129794077,2017-06-13 20:07:11,">>129793282 Now I wonder what percentage of this graph is due to genetics and what percentage of this graph is due to cultural pandering. I'm definitely a nature over nurture guy, but nurture does play a role in everything to some extent.",,Anonymous,16251592_1182556575198959_5725698167009080468_o.jpg,XGchP4agUvoCcw3e0+GNnA==,,,1497384431 129775789,129794250,2017-06-13 20:08:37,">>129793107 >>129793595 I don't claim to speak for them, I'm really just claiming that they're different on the group level. I do think they can be reasoned with on a one-on-one basis, but if you look at the US now it should be pretty clear which individuals are going where and doing what. And what do you think will happen when they point the government in a different direction? They fundamentally have different political beliefs compared to the long-standing White American population. What makes you think these groups can reconcile their differences? Will there be some sort of uniting political party in the future that would facilitate the transition to more extreme libertarianism? Because we're already operating under the policies of race-blind civic nationalism, we have been a multiethnic country for hundreds of years, and racial tensions show no signs of ending soon.",,Anonymous,1480480911966.png,KlLiqkoRpz2vuYFox+IV3A==,,,1497384517 129775789,129794397,2017-06-13 20:09:46,">>129793595 And before someone says ""women vote resources from the state because resource procurement is all they care about!"" Women also tend to be herd animals. They follow whatever the status quo is. If we had a nation of red-pilled libertarian men who didn't take their leftist bullshit, women would become conservative real quick. It would be the only way they could compete on the sexual marketplace. That's why women tend to vote republican after marriage. They're like sticks in the wind and go wherever the gibs are coming from. If we didn't have a state that handed out gibs and they had to rely on their men, they would vote for smaller government.",,Anonymous,16142406_1187885487999401_6861402664850438892_n.jpg,2aRD8obV5lp7pzgYLBbEfw==,,,1497384586 129775789,129794558,2017-06-13 20:11:02,">>129793627 >giving away your rights to protect your fefes i can already tell youd loose",,Anonymous,titus.jpg,gX2DlqgPZr6V8ilIersKAw==,,,1497384662 129775789,129794723,2017-06-13 20:12:14,,,Anonymous,what liberties.jpg,dkzTDVjw+OwcX0bioqgEMw==,,,1497384734 129775789,129794756,2017-06-13 20:12:32,">>129794250 But we're operating under a big government welfare system. That effects behavior. If there were no gibs, they might behave differently. I'm not saying getting rid of gibs is just this easy thing to do. The blacks/women will continue to vote vociferously for gibs, because they've been trained to rely on them and think they're a moral good. I think all we can do is continue fighting the culture war and promote our ideals. I'm just not sold on the notion that a black person is genetically pre-disposed to being anti-liberty and that a libertarian paradise requires an ethnostate. I think they've been trained by over a century of big gibs policy and propaganda. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I believe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497384752 129775789,129794768,2017-06-13 20:12:39,">>129794397 This, main enemies of women suffrage at first were leftists, because women were way too influenced by church. It has proven to be a mistake, but well, democracy itself is a mistake, not exclusive to women here.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497384759 129775789,129795335,2017-06-13 20:17:13,alright edgy propaganda hour.,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1497385033 129775789,129795351,2017-06-13 20:17:21,">>129780196 I've heard that agorism is a left-wing philosophy, but my understanding of it is simply an advocacy of counter-economics to undermine the state. That doesn't seem to be particularly left-wing to me. Seems neutral.",,Anonymous,C4Zva0iWEAAaLu5.jpg,a4S9esOHsYVI+KoWK0gbFg==,,,1497385041 129775789,129795418,2017-06-13 20:17:52,">>129795335 take your autistic LARPing elsewhere",,Anonymous,,,,,1497385072 129775789,129795515,2017-06-13 20:18:34,">>129794756 Then how are libertarians so universally White? Why didn't Whites get hooked on gibs and big gov to such a large degree? I just don't believe the perfect dovetailing multiracial outcome is realistic. If we were working towards a libertarian nation we should see signs of progress. And yet people don't even like living near people who are unlike them, and picking up stakes and moving is a huge, risky decision. I think in-groups are too ingrained in everyone, and the nurture argument only really manifests as Whites espousing nonviolent shit like libertarianism, because they perceive it to be less risky than alternatives, but even then their actions betray their real beliefs.",,Anonymous,1497305120634.png,jJwA4hSxhuLf91z9/bTxcw==,,,1497385114 129775789,129795521,2017-06-13 20:18:39,">>129795351 its ""leftist"" because in most countries the only viable markets not taken by the state are degenerate, Drugs, prostitution, human trafficing and shit.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1497385119 129775789,129795564,2017-06-13 20:18:57,">>129795418 Eat shit, you have to go back.",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1497385137 129775789,129795646,2017-06-13 20:19:35,Killing communists is always in defense of non-aggression.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1497385175 129775789,129795742,2017-06-13 20:20:26,There is only one goal of socialism. Total control.,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1497385226 129775789,129795884,2017-06-13 20:21:26,">>129795515 Because whites, esp white men, are the oppressor class. Cultural marxism cannot exploit them. Blacks and women are the perfect pawns for the marxists to manipulate. Being the social hegemons, white men are more immune to the left's vile sorcery. Actually the opposite. We tend to be placed at odds with it, so we naturally become right wing/libertarian. Part of my transformation from your typical normie millennial was seeing how unfairly hated my own demographic was.",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,BEtvm6pvhJKWVUBGJB29hQ==,,,1497385286 129775789,129796248,2017-06-13 20:24:31,">>129795884 Also I'm not saying that we can be this perfectly mixed diverse melting pot. People do tend to organize with the in-group. I personally would prefer to have a white family. But in terms of society at large, as long as they respect the NAP, I don't care if a black dude is sharing a broader society with me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497385471 129775789,129796730,2017-06-13 20:28:20,">>129776382 They are all the same thing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497385700 129775789,129796995,2017-06-13 20:30:32,Bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1497385832 129775789,129797016,2017-06-13 20:30:46,">>129793282 >Non-Whites can't operate on that level of decentralization. They're too collectivistic. They're using identity politics and STATE VIOLENCE against Whites and lolerbertarians act like they're too smart and above it all to deign to participate in identity politics. It disgusts me. The means of establishing Anarcho-Capitalism and how it works are completely and entirely different subjects altogether. We don't pander to shitskins and degenerates, because we don't need to. If you think AnCap is established in Democracy (basically soft communism), by appealing to idiots like what Communism does, you're outta your mind >History is just a timeline of groups of people organizing and using violence to get what they want. History so far :^) >NAP ancap-land is fucking communist utopia tier in terms of ignoring human nature. What human nature are we ignoring? That some people are low-IQ collectivist degenerates? We know they exist. Our solution is physical removal once AnCap is established. Getting to AnCap however, well, again that's a different topic. All that can really be said about establishing AnCap is either violent or non-violent, mass private militia uprising with a willing population, or an economical state-induced collapse in such a scale that people will try a new kind of private society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497385846 129775789,129797290,2017-06-13 20:32:50,">>129775789 Fuck yes boys Let's warm up the choppers",,Anonymous,1494257513568.jpg,FQ2Co3lFRpNANqv/RqMw1w==,,,1497385970 129775789,129797759,2017-06-13 20:36:31,">Go on /pol/ >All these ancap flags >mfw Feels good man",,Anonymous,1457314521238.jpg,6JY3vlqglBmGf0BVib8LaA==,,,1497386191 129775789,129797926,2017-06-13 20:37:46,fucking lolbertarians,,Anonymous,,,,,1497386266 129775789,129798053,2017-06-13 20:38:50,>>129795564,,Anonymous,1480830179687.jpg,7FFnFgmR8HoHiFJH6rJeSA==,,,1497386330 129775789,129798751,2017-06-13 20:44:30,"We will see a glorious era in our own day, my brothers",,Anonymous,1497047074211.png,e+3YcsMzYN/r1v6szZuHYg==,,,1497386670 129775789,129798783,2017-06-13 20:44:44,">>129797926 fucking commies",,Anonymous,1496678983553.jpg,4Oo/XGoQOwOERV18TX2Bnw==,,,1497386684 129775789,129798889,2017-06-13 20:45:43,">>129798751 Since we don't believe in intellectual property I just saved your meme.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497386743 129775789,129799004,2017-06-13 20:46:48,">>129775789 Daily reminder that capitalism and libertarianism are completely Jewish. https://archive.org/details/jewsandmodernca00sombgoog",,Anonymous,,,,,1497386808 129775789,129799049,2017-06-13 20:47:11,">>129798751 remove the shoes and I'll voluntarily exchange ye some doubloons for it",,Anonymous,1489181443388.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,,,1497386831 129775789,129799150,2017-06-13 20:48:04,">picking cheeto elvis when you could've picked based gary eat shit cock holsters",,Anonymous,garycakes2.jpg,xrFEcyOVxMJ8huZ+MOJWnA==,,,1497386884 129775789,129799214,2017-06-13 20:48:43,can we all agree than once we have an interplanetary space an-cap empire that aliens need to die? fuck space niggers,,Anonymous,1486000326799.png,6sRHfqzAMcSNY7Mfc/kHXA==,,,1497386923 129775789,129799221,2017-06-13 20:48:51,">>129799004 Stop Globalism. Abolish Central Banking. End the Fed. Gas the State. None of this helps Zionist control, We challenge power more than any nazis think they do. >Jewish ""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being anti-semites and racists by jews in high places.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497386931 129775789,129799259,2017-06-13 20:49:07,">>129799004 >he says as he actively supports socialism",,Anonymous,,,,,1497386947 129775789,129799616,2017-06-13 20:52:04,">>129799150 Gary Johnson is a fucking loser. You make me sick. Get your ass out of this thread.",,Anonymous,9e2a057a8172ea146fe76255d3892c7bd4444a2d1d090886ae9fd51e18cf5b84.png,Ir5X6FH0c87qXz8svpFgfg==,,,1497387124 129775789,129799766,2017-06-13 20:53:16,">>129798783 >buying food that has been prepared by antifa >do commies believe in washing their hands clean of accumulated feces after they handle their tiny pee pees and boypuccis, or prepare jars of urine to splash on Lauren Southern? >Do they do pic related on national television like other prominent leftists?",,Anonymous,laurie_penny_feminist.png,b3ggi1KRWlA4EzY+Egsk8A==,,,1497387196 129775789,129799829,2017-06-13 20:53:46,">>129799150 Fuckoff BAKE.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387226 129775789,129799907,2017-06-13 20:54:27,">>129799214 I agree moonman. space gooks don't belong in our solar system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387267 129775789,129800092,2017-06-13 20:55:56,">>129799259 Socialism was created by Europeans (socialism exist before the Jew Marx corrupted it). Capitalism was created by Jews. This is historical fact.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387356 129775789,129800287,2017-06-13 20:57:31,">>129775789 Kebab and communist removal service.",,Anonymous,"physically remove communists, fashwave.jpg",bETxKOL/OEqkelmYdUk4fQ==,,,1497387451 129775789,129800336,2017-06-13 20:57:55,">>129777871 You're gonna see new religions thanks to shit like your pic and the new flag system lol",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387475 129775789,129800372,2017-06-13 20:58:08,">>129800092 If you are stupid enough to believe this then you unsalvageable",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387488 129775789,129800497,2017-06-13 20:59:13,">>129777871 Same shit different pile",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387553 129775789,129800517,2017-06-13 20:59:27,">>129800092 Menger was the start of paleo-liberal capitalism and not even hitler could connect him to Judaism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387567 129775789,129800520,2017-06-13 20:59:27,">>129799221 >We challenge power more than any nazis think they do No, because you don't understand the problem. The problem is not merely central banking. Kikes got rich before central banks, which is how they instituted the central banks to begin with. The problem is capitalism, invented by Jews to usurp proper authority and put it into the hands of merchants.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387567 129775789,129800541,2017-06-13 20:59:35,">>129800092 you forget it was free markets and liberty. both inventions of whites that made us so powerful. You fags want a white ethnostate only to enslave them and force disgenic devolutionary systems upon them. its gonna be the welfare nigger problem but with white welfare queens. you fucking fool. if there is to be a homeland it should be based on the best of white mans inventions. property right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387575 129775789,129800735,2017-06-13 21:01:06,>>129800092,,Anonymous,zjrkl;a.png,5fxMoSDt+0GbkmfUws2+DA==,,,1497387666 129775789,129800767,2017-06-13 21:01:22,">>129800287 >flag remove yourself then",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387682 129775789,129801076,2017-06-13 21:03:58,">>129800520 again. you must not tolerate jewery under capitalism. if they abuse you and you keep coming back for more its your fault. socialism only garentees whites slavery",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387838 129775789,129801113,2017-06-13 21:04:14,">>129800520 kikes did not ""get rich"" before central banking, jews were historically impoverished for generations. you are so fucking ignorant of the history of finance. The knights templar were the originators of central banking, and the jews merely began to inherit the system around the time of Napoleon, you twat. The issue is how central finance is able to secure political domination through manipulation of the appendages of the state and the control of debt bearing currencies which must be borrowed and paid back at interest. You should be buying metals and bitcoin instead of worshipping a flag in your closet. We are all working towards the same ends, but apparently your LARP puts you in a position of utter powerlessness.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387854 129775789,129801242,2017-06-13 21:05:19,">>129800372 I don't believe it. I know it. Because it is a fact of history. Socialism had roots in the European guild system and medieval feudal command economy. Capitalism had roots in Jewish law and practices in Italy, Spain, Amsterdam, England, etc. >>129800517 >Menger was the start of paleo-liberal capitalism False.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497387919 129775789,129801465,2017-06-13 21:07:03,">>129800541 >you forget it was free markets and liberty. both inventions of whites False. The ideology of the free market was invented by Jews. Liberty was not fully invented by Jews, but they played a very big role in pushing it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388023 129775789,129801481,2017-06-13 21:07:10,">>129801242 and where has your precious socialism lead germany to today?",,Anonymous,hOkA7tp.jpg,2jBTxK/7pOVyO4swiRNltw==,,,1497388030 129775789,129801580,2017-06-13 21:07:58,">>129801242 the only thing you know is that you make up history as you go along. You don't think that Greeks and Romans had capital or practiced capitalism? What about ancient Babylon itself? You are so fucking ignorant that it renders literally everything you say completely moot",,Anonymous,1495302116158.jpg,i3R0itWq0smgyC3kkPGqEw==,,,1497388078 129775789,129801671,2017-06-13 21:08:39,">>129801465 you're wrong. capitalism and liberty as a philosophy date way before your narrow knowledge of history.",,Anonymous,Bastiat.jpg,xrOal6n8il/jJgFbZiQ8nw==,,,1497388119 129775789,129801672,2017-06-13 21:08:41,">>129801242 >False Well let us know when you run out of other peoples money and have to turn back to capitalism to rebuild all that wealth you redistributed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388121 129775789,129801838,2017-06-13 21:09:54,">>129800541 >disgenic devolutionary systems upon them. Capitalism is dysgenic because the social stratification is based upon ability to make money. This is dysgenic because it does not select for any virtues. In ancap land, a braindead celebrity occupies a higher social position that a patriotic military man. This is utterly dysgenic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388194 129775789,129802080,2017-06-13 21:11:53,">>129801838 Capital ≠ money can you into economics my dude? Your fucking ancestors worked the land and/or hunted/farmed animals for food within socialised familial units composed of parents, children, and sometime other relatives. Otherwise they are ardent capitalists. Fucking remove yourself you ignorant wet bag of garbage",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388313 129775789,129802120,2017-06-13 21:12:12,">>129801242 Capitalism has been there since the dawn of mankind's division of labor mate, I trade you some logs for fishes, vice versa, mutually advantageous non-violent private transactions. The result is more logs produced, more fishes fished, more resources and goods for everybody to grow on because capitalism is the most natural economic system giving your shit for the tribe to arbitrarily decide on and reward non-workers/laziness is just inefficient",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388332 129775789,129802130,2017-06-13 21:12:13,">>129801113 >kikes did not ""get rich"" before central banking, jews were historically impoverished for generations Completely false. Jews dominated trade in all major trading hubs of Europe from the middle ages. They were heavily involved in the silk road, Levant trade, and new world colonialism after that. Learn history.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388333 129775789,129802195,2017-06-13 21:12:42,">>129801242 I bet you refuse to read Ayn Rand because she has a Jewish last name.",,Anonymous,1496590701569.jpg,PA56XFhG/3iZL73j0On1zQ==,US,,1497388362 129775789,129802197,2017-06-13 21:12:43,">>129801838 you fool, we're under corporatist socialism right now. That tranny loving popstar is an invention of your economic model. Socialism and social conservatism are incompatible. There is no responsibility in socialism. It is totally disregarding of natural law.",,Anonymous,Tucker.png,G3ntbYA6wn77pdLZEi56hw==,,,1497388363 129775789,129802380,2017-06-13 21:14:12,">>129801838 >implying mercenary companies did not make mad cash when there was constant war >implying capitalism did not create so much wealth that war and plunder are being phased out as unprofitable >implying people do not value entertainment now because capitalism creates more affordable luxury goods than people know what to do with >implying you have any argument other than your own made up history and how capitalism is evil because people buy too much stuff",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388452 129775789,129802394,2017-06-13 21:14:18,">>129802130 Listen, bitch: I know a lot more about the history of jews than you since I unfortunately happen to be one. You don't know jack shit about kike law nor the history of finance. >inb4 kas the gikes You don't even know the definition of capital, you don't understand what money is, and you demonise all forms of trade as kikery. Go fucking off yourself you retard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388458 129775789,129802419,2017-06-13 21:14:32,">>129801481 Germany is a neoliberal nation that is a client state of the neoliberal USA. Neoliberalism being founded upon the ideas of libertardians heroes Hayek and Friedman.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388472 129775789,129802629,2017-06-13 21:16:10,">>129801671 >Capitalism is like totally old bro >posts picture of 19th century retard",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388570 129775789,129802847,2017-06-13 21:17:52,">>129802629 Here is your (you)",,Anonymous,(you).webm,tW1wnYfsq72FFANK95/rRg==,,,1497388672 129775789,129802866,2017-06-13 21:18:02,">>129802629 Ever heard of Croesus? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croesus",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388682 129775789,129802993,2017-06-13 21:18:57,">>129802080 >there is either capitalism or socialism This is why nobody takes ancaps and libertardians seriously.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388737 129775789,129803082,2017-06-13 21:19:37,">>129802419 >Germany is a neoliberal nation. you're mistaken. they are social liberals. not economic liberals. the two are incompatible. germany is without a doubt economically socialist. if you disregard this you are a fool. >>129802629 remind me, was bastiat a kike? what capitalist jews preceded him?",,Anonymous,Uncompromising.png,pduVxrs/9EoQcq8y3q5l/A==,,,1497388777 129775789,129803138,2017-06-13 21:20:03,">>129802993 You are a literal nigger right now",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388803 129775789,129803249,2017-06-13 21:20:48,">>129802993 embarassing display, you don't happen to be irish do you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388848 129775789,129803328,2017-06-13 21:21:22,">>129802120 Commerce=/=capitalism dumbass. No real economists in history have defined it that way. Only libertarians do because it allows them to create fallacious arguments centered around false dichotomies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388882 129775789,129803351,2017-06-13 21:21:33,">>129800767 /pol/ is a NSDAP board, and if you don't want to behave yourself then you'll be removed too.",,Anonymous,1486097598681.jpg,3Rx0txj7/Eq3D1Ows5iCdA==,,,1497388893 129775789,129803595,2017-06-13 21:23:19,">>129803328 Capitalism = private ownership of production and goods, exchanging it the same way privately. Nothing I said was wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497388999 129775789,129803664,2017-06-13 21:23:56,">>129803351 c-can pirates join too senpai",,Anonymous,,,,,1497389036 129775789,129803763,2017-06-13 21:24:39,">>129802394 >I know a lot more about the history of jews than you since I unfortunately happen to be one Jews don't know a lot about their own history. They teach false historical persecution narratives that do not align with facts of history as a way of reinforcing their tribal loyalties. But pretty funny that the die-hard ancap here also happens to be a kike. And I know perfectly well what capital is and have never demonized trade once.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497389079 129775789,129803764,2017-06-13 21:24:40,">>129803328 You can't even define what capital is, given that you have ignorantly associated it with money. Who the fuck are you and why are you trolling our thread? You haven't levelled a single argument and aside from a few characteristic idiomatic features I have managed to pick up about you the only thing I know is that you are fucking retarded. You are cancer.",,Anonymous,1495088183490.png,p6fMCP4qI4DEcItDTPnaVA==,,,1497389080 129775789,129803862,2017-06-13 21:25:24,">>129803351 all is fair against the left.",,Anonymous,pol_royal_crest.png,8hZ9oyvvSmLAMXfXzC3JXQ==,,,1497389124 129775789,129803888,2017-06-13 21:25:34,">>129803763 You are so mercurial, it's like talking to a fucking bubble bath. We ancap kikes are the real Nazis",,Anonymous,,,,,1497389134 129775789,129804271,2017-06-13 21:28:23,">>129803664 Of coursh.",,Anonymous,bane?.jpg,nWU6tfwa+dTP7MZJJGXweQ==,,,1497389303 129775789,129805251,2017-06-13 21:36:39,bump.,,Anonymous,Pinochet.png,Msim3NPGWupV/N+e7MwESA==,,,1497389799 129775789,129805272,2017-06-13 21:36:48,">>129803664 I've already confirmed this. International waters are our's matey.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497389808 129775789,129805549,2017-06-13 21:39:06,">>129804271 >>129805272 aye tis a good time to be a pirate my lads!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497389946 129775789,129805994,2017-06-13 21:42:45,">>129805549 >>129805272 pirates are the missing link in the libertarian/natsoc alliance. you can save the sinking ship that is /pol/. make it great again. please.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497390165 129775789,129806489,2017-06-13 21:46:56,">>129805994 gladly me heartie, we'll round up these landlubbing degenerates and flog em till they beg for davy jone's gaschambers. or just physically remove them from the plank, it's all the same",,Anonymous,,,,,1497390416 129775789,129806860,2017-06-13 21:49:59,">>129789025 here is a (((you))) fucking faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1497390599 129775789,129807015,2017-06-13 21:51:10,">>129803888 I am gonna go ahead and check my own sick digits since my sick mega-kike posting-get broke our thread",,Anonymous,1497384879914.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,,,1497390670 129775789,129807299,2017-06-13 21:53:36,">>129807015 That ancap meme though. From a libertarian, why does everyone think we're just gonna shoot people on sight for being on our property?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497390816 129893198,129893198,2017-06-14 12:33:22,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - PROUD OF OUR HERITAGE EDITION,Anonymous,pol ron paul logo.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,SK,,1497443602 129893198,129893299,2017-06-14 12:34:04,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,politically incorrect logo.png,m0uo2+Q63/aqqovc509odg==,SK,,1497443644 129893198,129893371,2017-06-14 12:34:34,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1497443674 129893198,129893414,2017-06-14 12:34:54,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1497443694 129893198,129893425,2017-06-14 12:34:57,God damn proud. slovakia makes a good thread.,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1497443697 129893198,129893458,2017-06-14 12:35:13,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,communism wall.png,SH3ikeDGIAFfnwhZXQ5Vug==,SK,,1497443713 129893198,129893488,2017-06-14 12:35:26,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1497443726 129893198,129893491,2017-06-14 12:35:27,">>129893198 Alright mate, not using the ancap flag, then?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497443727 129893198,129893502,2017-06-14 12:35:31,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo",,Anonymous,do it for hoppe.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,SK,,1497443731 129893198,129893541,2017-06-14 12:35:48,">>129893491 the cool kids dont have to, we know whats up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497443748 129893198,129893573,2017-06-14 12:36:00,">>129893491 Nah, we're proud of who we are. No need to disguise ourselves. MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,autistic screeching marx.jpg,r+R1HDIdRAW8ZuoTy8O4sw==,SK,,1497443760 129893198,129894074,2017-06-14 12:39:50,,,Anonymous,hoppe2-e1439880724629.jpg,pSO/gLdjULr7+l3nOmlwKg==,GB,,1497443990 129893198,129894109,2017-06-14 12:40:06,,,Anonymous,CN6QyKpWwAAisyF.jpg,pA5usxwI6CfANN1LcH1GMQ==,GB,,1497444006 129893198,129894147,2017-06-14 12:40:22,Im gonna get back on the propaganda machine today. I got my jimmies rustled talking to faggy ancaps and need to rant about it.,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1497444022 129893198,129894192,2017-06-14 12:40:44,,,Anonymous,misc (9).png,tr1x+FeahS7m1fth08IJrg==,US,,1497444044 129893198,129894261,2017-06-14 12:41:08,,,Anonymous,1495938021108.png,voRz/UEnLq9gQm87bocq5g==,GB,,1497444068 129893198,129894376,2017-06-14 12:42:01,END THE STATE WITH AMMONIUM NITRATE,,Anonymous,mcveigh pepe.jpg,F7pZ7z5P7jNpCoTPK6sqbg==,SK,,1497444121 129893198,129894494,2017-06-14 12:42:54,,,Anonymous,anticom.gif,Xry4nq4vDM2E02ygUXGRGA==,SK,,1497444174 129893198,129894548,2017-06-14 12:43:19,">>129894376 Even the score, use C4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497444199 129893198,129894738,2017-06-14 12:44:47,,,Anonymous,,,,,1497444287 129893198,129894764,2017-06-14 12:44:56,">>129894548 >>129894376 Hippity Hoppity blow up FBI property",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497444296 129893198,129895015,2017-06-14 12:47:02,"shoulda never installed coincidence detector. doing research, everyone for open borders is a jew or mexican.",,Anonymous,1488910637310.jpg,j8LR12YdKTWMEnBNchIDYw==,US,,1497444422 129893198,129895332,2017-06-14 12:49:50,">>129893502 another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo",,Anonymous,,,,,1497444590 129893198,129895514,2017-06-14 12:51:21,">>129894738 Maltabro is going to the coranxconf libertarian conference in Malta where hoppes speaking. Jelly af...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497444681 129893198,129895990,2017-06-14 12:54:41,,,Anonymous,police-focus-image.jpg,FGBqIi+TtsQ8fP94lboeng==,GB,,1497444881 129893198,129896209,2017-06-14 12:56:22,">>129895514 You know what he's supposed to be speaking about?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497444982 129893198,129896919,2017-06-14 13:01:43,">>129895332 Beautiful. The 50s were sort of a last stand of explicit huhuhuhuWhite identity.",,Anonymous,14 words.jpg,Kzn8BrBlZ3tTylxJHG8mqA==,SK,,1497445303 129893198,129897131,2017-06-14 13:03:25,,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1497445405 129893198,129899256,2017-06-14 13:19:47,Bump.,,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,US,,1497446387 129893198,129899921,2017-06-14 13:25:23,">>129893198 >open Libertarian Right General >NAP starts playing",,Anonymous,43715.png,q4vqMs8plOxYQtPa3a1JKA==,,,1497446723 129893198,129900198,2017-06-14 13:27:33,">>129896209 No, wanted to look at the speaker list, but the site insists you turn adblock off or it won't let you in. Fuck that...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497446853 129893198,129901062,2017-06-14 13:33:50,">>129900198 Kek, alright can't wait for his September alt right lecture tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497447230 129893198,129902272,2017-06-14 13:43:55,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497447835 129893198,129902556,2017-06-14 13:46:19,">>129901062 Me too, anon, me too.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1497447979 129893198,129903078,2017-06-14 13:50:42,">>129893198 What's wrong with Jeffrey Tucker?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497448242 129893198,129903498,2017-06-14 13:54:29,"Feeling very helicoptery today boys What do we do about the Democrat problem?",,Anonymous,Capture.png,tWD5XZdfzAv/VA7CXmVKiw==,,,1497448469 129893198,129903617,2017-06-14 13:55:28,">>129896209 It's not announced yet",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497448528 129893198,129903747,2017-06-14 13:56:36,">>129903078 >flag >post checks out",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497448596 129893198,129903968,2017-06-14 13:58:20,">>129903498 You seen this? Probably bollocks, but you never know... >>129895205",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497448700 129893198,129904509,2017-06-14 14:02:47,">>129903078 He's infiltrated the Libertarian party with his conservative friends.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497448967 129893198,129904940,2017-06-14 14:06:10,">>129893198 I still haven't gotten a satisfying reply to this: Considering how ideologies are about the control of items, then how can libertarianism justify it being a superior ideology, if it defines the value of items as subjective?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497449170 129893198,129905349,2017-06-14 14:09:23,">>129904940 You weren't satisfied with the answers you got the other day because it doesn't conform to your labor theory of value.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497449363 129893198,129905604,2017-06-14 14:11:33,Right wing libertarianism is horseshit,,Anonymous,,,,,1497449493 129893198,129905722,2017-06-14 14:12:28,>>129905604,,Anonymous,g9u.jpg,sNLG2g0UWgrDqghzO/4gsw==,US,,1497449548 129893198,129906074,2017-06-14 14:15:19,">>129905604 t. teenager communist who thinks it's cool to rebel against his conservative parents",,Anonymous,1369325515126.jpg,mFrYtN5zjVbcbX2hEEAYMg==,US,,1497449719 129893198,129906217,2017-06-14 14:16:28,">>129905349 I don't support the labor theory of value. That doesn't answer the question.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497449788 129893198,129906378,2017-06-14 14:17:35,">>129905604 No more so than anarcho-communism",,Anonymous,,,,,1497449855 129893198,129906417,2017-06-14 14:17:56,">>129906217 Alright so go back to the archives, re read the multiple response you got and if you're still not ""satisfied"" i don't really care.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497449876 129893198,129906750,2017-06-14 14:20:53,">>129904940 Right libertarianism struggles to argue against nihilism, this is one of the problems with it and why Rothbard was uncomfortable with people like Lachmann. I think the direction to go in is adherence to subjective value within a broader objective framework, which is objective by being universally subjective in a sort of Kantian sense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497450053 129893198,129906850,2017-06-14 14:21:49,">>129906417 Then you don't seem to have an answer.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497450109 129893198,129907164,2017-06-14 14:24:40,">>129906750 Interesting, how would you however justify the objective framework?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497450280 129893198,129907372,2017-06-14 14:26:21,">>129906850 It seems that way, but the truth is you were dismissive and weren't open to anyone's response and so I am not open to playing along today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497450381 129893198,129908536,2017-06-14 14:35:27,">>129907164 How familiar are you with Kant? The move is basically to say that there are certain concepts which, though they are subjective, must be universally held by all subjects by their very nature. For example, concepts such as causation are argued to be universally subjective because it is physically impossible to comprehend anything as a human without such a concept. You can try to extend such an argument to basic moral principles, i.e. the golden rule. Something along the lines of ""using coercion on someone is contradictory because a precondition of you being able to coerce someone is that no one is coercing you"". More precisely you could take theft- thievery is contradictory because the aim of it is to acquire property rights over an object, but the act of thieving is inherently a violation of property rights. Obviously in both instances the argument is a lot more fleshed out.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497450927 129893198,129909499,2017-06-14 14:42:59,">>129904940 > ideologies are about the control of items Not true, ideologies are systems of beliefs meant to provide people with a way to process reality in such a way as to create a certain social order. >>129908536 Libertarianism already has this through the non aggression principle as well as the theory of natural rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497451379 129893198,129910633,2017-06-14 14:52:58,">>129908536 I am not very familiar with Kant, so I will definetely have a read about that topic. I'll see if it answer the question.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1497451978 129893198,129910848,2017-06-14 14:54:43,">>129909499 This is a discussion about the derivation of the non-agression principle, not just baldly asserting it. Rothbard's natural rights ethic is a joke, he was a great economist and historian but a really bad philosopher. It's basically a shit halfway house between Rand and Locke. This is why Hoppe had to come up with argumentation ethics, which is in turn just bad Kantianism (Hoppe has a giant Kant-boner).",,Anonymous,,,,,1497452083 129893198,129911671,2017-06-14 15:01:25,">>129909499 >>129910848 Should also point out that Mises's entire work is openly based on Kant",,Anonymous,,,,,1497452485 129893198,129911986,2017-06-14 15:03:53,>post yfw confederate larpers get together in your town,,Anonymous,1314882171384.gif,tej4MGfqucceYt2Z35fCbA==,US,,1497452633 129893198,129912820,2017-06-14 15:10:31,">>129911986 I like Confederate larpers.",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1497453031 129938002,129938002,2017-06-14 18:30:03,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >READING LIST: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3 (Join that muthafuckin discord)",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_pixel.png,xP6KIZfw7GvOFt8sUL00Lg==,,,1497465003 129938002,129938329,2017-06-14 18:32:51,"I want Straight white couples to be able to protect their cotton fields (wink, wink) with fully automatic rifles.",,Anonymous,1488910637310.jpg,j8LR12YdKTWMEnBNchIDYw==,,,1497465171 129938002,129938536,2017-06-14 18:34:34,"My normie friends said on normiebook that the government should play a greater part in our personal lives, sickening.",,Anonymous,1494034704286.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,,,1497465274 129938002,129938542,2017-06-14 18:34:40,What does /lrg/ think about Rand Paul?,,Anonymous,,,MX,,1497465280 129938002,129938698,2017-06-14 18:35:57,">>129938329 I want niggers to commit violent crimes so I could appropriate them as punishment",,Anonymous,,,,,1497465357 129938002,129938756,2017-06-14 18:36:26,">>129938536 >friends not anymore",,Anonymous,,,,,1497465386 129938002,129938814,2017-06-14 18:36:54,">>129938542 I heard him saying some nice things about black people. >>129938536 put them down. its for a better tomorrow.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497465414 129938002,129938834,2017-06-14 18:37:03,">>129938542 >What does /lrg/ think about Rand Paul?",,Anonymous,file.png,sXWJiV5vJqroioCTOuEZ9g==,,,1497465423 129938002,129938908,2017-06-14 18:37:44,">>129938698 Appropriating them is the best thing you can do for them, just look at Apartheid countries.",,Anonymous,ancap andy.jpg,nJJiImciDuRCuXn4r+lycw==,SK,,1497465464 129938002,129938979,2017-06-14 18:38:22,">>129938542 He's alright, but he could be better.",,Anonymous,my rand folder.png,jDOAd6f3QbaGTtrbr3DkDQ==,SK,,1497465502 129938002,129939005,2017-06-14 18:38:31,>lolbertarians,,Anonymous,libertarianstrip.jpg,g2RDhifJ3rWe9peRZxvXlw==,,,1497465511 129938002,129939131,2017-06-14 18:39:30,">>129939005 >a picture of a communist subverter.",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,,,1497465570 129938002,129939307,2017-06-14 18:40:58,">>129938908 Don't think for a second that I'd treat the males kindly. However the niggerladies would have a warm bed to sleep in at night if you catch my drift ;)",,Anonymous,1490721588544 (2).png,q7M6PWbfuH+PPfucM/McsQ==,,,1497465658 129938002,129939427,2017-06-14 18:42:06,">>129939307 wear a rubber.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497465726 129938002,129939515,2017-06-14 18:42:43,">>129939005 That's the first fat communist I've ever seen.",,Anonymous,ancap tap.jpg,Im78nhpQ2Fz7mfuOeqsi6A==,SK,,1497465763 129938002,129939646,2017-06-14 18:43:54,">>129939427 Will do. The only exception would be if I were running low on cash...",,Anonymous,,,,,1497465834 129938002,129939695,2017-06-14 18:44:17,">>129939307 Yeah take the advice of this guy >>129939427 Or just whack off on a stick and rape them with it. White genes make everything better, and since males invest less time in reproduction, you should always exploit that advantage. That's why it's only race treason if the woman does it.",,Anonymous,black girl prom flowers.png,oEb8PGZOQFV3sAZ33tiQ/w==,SK,,1497465857 129938002,129939935,2017-06-14 18:46:20,">>129938002 Why haven't you adopted shariah law pol? >Shitloads of cheap african slaves in the caliphate >Behead kuffars for offending religion or damaging goats, thus breaking NAP amd justifying their execution >slap the shit out of women, its okay becuz they're property",,Anonymous,,,,,1497465980 129938002,129939977,2017-06-14 18:46:47,">>129939515 I don't think it is.",,Anonymous,68d (1).png,+afRWsFPWsRPKhb8CMmq2A==,US,,1497466007 129938002,129940862,2017-06-14 18:54:36,">>129939935 White Sharia when?",,Anonymous,WHITE SHARIA.png,Nh+9Er6lBgR+SAQnsepLjg==,SK,,1497466476 129938002,129940954,2017-06-14 18:55:21,">>129939977 Apes are not dumb enough to be communist, get that shit out of here. Women, on the other hand...",,Anonymous,alex jones filters.png,2YxgrJYkh3nfJ0HHK6pI3Q==,SK,,1497466521 129938002,129941233,2017-06-14 18:57:58,">>129940862 I agree, White shariah is cool",,Anonymous,FAHR.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,,,1497466678 129938002,129941609,2017-06-14 19:01:08,">>129941233 If they spent less time bashing capitalism and instead spent that time furthering that idea of White Sharia, I'd love them much more. Even if you're an irredeemable cuck who likes poopdick and you think that it's just a good way to push the window closer to traditional family values, the sooner you realise dogs are more intelligent than 95% of women, the better.",,Anonymous,fgt.jpg,rjjYTO0x5ar+N3yfQ8k3Bw==,SK,,1497466868 129938002,129941704,2017-06-14 19:01:52,,,Anonymous,libertainismlol.png,x03h/sKaGiTN++n64xZQSA==,,,1497466912 129938002,129941904,2017-06-14 19:03:28,,,Anonymous,lolbertariancompass.png,41vBNzqLlkzvWFgiiNIBPg==,,,1497467008 129938002,129942004,2017-06-14 19:04:18,,,Anonymous,lolbertarianscp.jpg,HPYzVuq1+sI95fwNgFR1Zw==,,,1497467058 129938002,129942146,2017-06-14 19:05:20,,,Anonymous,ancapchildconsents.jpg,tGErnWH+S7QKwCm3EQCR3g==,,,1497467120 129938002,129942219,2017-06-14 19:05:54,,,Anonymous,ancap3.jpg,in5u+BNAOLbFJtmRWmvDag==,,,1497467154 129938002,129942527,2017-06-14 19:08:45,">>129942004 >libertarian party is a bunch of degenerate fags. Tell me something new, that’s how it was is the old times of the party. I hate all these icky conservatives that have infiltrated the libertarian movement!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497467325 129938002,129942552,2017-06-14 19:08:54,Haha hello fellow Libertarians.,,Anonymous,,,,,1497467334 129938002,129942632,2017-06-14 19:09:30,">>129942552 Wassap.",,Anonymous,1495580558525.jpg,gbpBvz0hq8g9vAJIR/Es2g==,,,1497467370 129938002,129942833,2017-06-14 19:11:12,">>129942632 Has the time finally come again?",,Anonymous,fashcapdove.png,pWaQLQhGrXwbFaG/dEvBfg==,,,1497467472 129938002,129943167,2017-06-14 19:14:11,">>12994283 It's what must be done.",,Anonymous,pol_royal_crest.png,8hZ9oyvvSmLAMXfXzC3JXQ==,,,1497467651 129938002,129943331,2017-06-14 19:15:39,">>129942833 It's what must be done.",,Anonymous,JOINorDIE.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,,,1497467739 129938002,129943542,2017-06-14 19:17:29,the gayest circlejerk,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497467849 129938002,129943808,2017-06-14 19:19:35,">>129943331 This is the spirit of early fascism, people who working together to protect their lives and their property against communist savages, before the ideals got corrupted by lower politics and the state.",,Anonymous,anfashy.jpg,f/g1ZBEbTW6lGZpnWvQCqg==,,,1497467975 129938002,129943814,2017-06-14 19:19:36,>>129943542,,Anonymous,file.png,H8/2RoXlPUEkBRH4UHMzoQ==,,,1497467976 129938002,129943878,2017-06-14 19:20:10,">>129943542 >the gayest circlejerk your country?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497468010 129938002,129943949,2017-06-14 19:20:44,">>129943542 I guess you're right, only a swede would know the gayest circlejerk. Your state uses you tax dollars to fund race mixing propaganda. and promote homosexuality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497468044 129938002,129943992,2017-06-14 19:21:05,">>129942004 >woman >not in a burqa And you trust her opinions? Wew.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497468065 129938002,129944078,2017-06-14 19:21:46,">>129943542 Leave your house and walk to the nearest gay bar, which shouldn't be far. Sven would gladly beat you off while Olaf fucks you in the ass",,Anonymous,,,,,1497468106 129938002,129944209,2017-06-14 19:22:41,">>129942219 Funny how the church is notorious for child molestation and you keep on being good goy christians (let's not even mention Islam whose circumcised cock you love to suck so much), yet a bunch of communist infiltrators are supposed to represent our movement.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497468161 129938002,129944212,2017-06-14 19:22:45,">>129943808 I believe that. Communists and the foreigners they fill our lands with vote for a bigger state. So cleary the way to end the state is 1488.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497468165 129938002,129944229,2017-06-14 19:22:51,">>129944078 >eave your house and walk to the nearest gay bar inb4 ahmed shoots up the gaybar",,Anonymous,,,,,1497468171 129938002,129944339,2017-06-14 19:23:43,">>129943542 nice to meet you, sweden we're /lrg/ you don't get to bring boyfriends",,Anonymous,DOGDOR BAVEL IM CIA XDDD.jpg,Z4dUb6GIK+/gUuDKIml+RA==,SK,,1497468223 129938002,129944453,2017-06-14 19:24:44,">>129944212 Heil comrade.",,Anonymous,fashcapi.jpg,/vAUxGlEBmE2AfGwn82/RQ==,,,1497468284 129938002,129944459,2017-06-14 19:24:47,">>129943542 You should feel right at home then.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1497468287 129938002,129944501,2017-06-14 19:25:09,">>129938002 pussies",,Anonymous,,,,,1497468309 129938002,129944598,2017-06-14 19:26:06,">>129944501 retard",,Anonymous,,,,,1497468366 129938002,129944685,2017-06-14 19:26:44,">>129943814 >>129943878 >>129943949 >>129944078 börkbörk you retarded globalist lemmings",,Anonymous,bork.png,1F1aJGCoYbF8SpANt4HcfA==,SE,,1497468404 129938002,129944775,2017-06-14 19:27:25,">>129944501 Nice to meet you, too. Are you wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a helicopter?",,Anonymous,fiery cia.gif,Q4KBiL5DCq3WxgwI73/5fg==,SK,,1497468445 129938002,129944859,2017-06-14 19:28:11,">>129944775 no",,Anonymous,1.gif,IiUIDhL5hrqigVh/Wufdlg==,,,1497468491 129938002,129945043,2017-06-14 19:29:41,">>129944685 >lemmings >wanting liberty Pick. One. God, people who throw W.L. Pierce around to signal them having read a single infographic that wasn't even aimed at the right people are pathetic.",,Anonymous,lemmings.png,cDG8Htx8GoJE/aytKlI2Ig==,SK,,1497468581 129938002,129945111,2017-06-14 19:30:17,">>129938002 would it still be minarchism if i also want fire protection tied in with the police? i feel like without that, arson rates are gonna skyrocket. although maybe that'll push the market to invent flame retardant wood.",,Anonymous,CKsZ0ZJUcAAhcRM[1].jpg,VfgrT+CeN1i1EDM/2IDp4Q==,,,1497468617 129938002,129945148,2017-06-14 19:30:40,">>129944859 You're a skinny guy.",,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,SK,,1497468640 129938002,129945281,2017-06-14 19:31:54,">>129945148 B E E F C A K E",,Anonymous,,,,,1497468714 129938002,129945425,2017-06-14 19:32:58,">>129945111 Fuck, if only people actually posted the links I provided for them in the pastebin, they would stumble across 1433!, the objectively best philosophy ever. Yes, the government can do that. No, it should not maintain a monopoly, and you should have a right to opt out of such a scheme. 1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/",,Anonymous,ancap genocide.png,Hl+HDJELc7YW+9f+qLXWvQ==,SK,,1497468778 129938002,129945514,2017-06-14 19:33:47,">>129945281 He's much more swole now. Anger burns a lot of calories, or so I've heard.",,Anonymous,hoppe schwag.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,SK,,1497468827 129938002,129945788,2017-06-14 19:36:23,">>129945043 just wow",,Anonymous,chimp.jpg,DDHOxkeKWPlwtrlXzd5TMg==,SE,,1497468983 129938002,129945919,2017-06-14 19:37:36,">>129938002 yfw you realize secession is the only way",,Anonymous,,,,,1497469056 129938002,129946138,2017-06-14 19:39:17,">>129945043 Holy shit, to je super. Môžem to použiť na konzervách? _I_",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497469157 129938002,129946515,2017-06-14 19:42:36,">>129945788 Don't post your photos on 4chan of all places. That's a horrible idea.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497469356 129938002,129946601,2017-06-14 19:43:15,">>129938002 >Pinochet Can the aut-right stop making the threads please",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497469395 129938002,129946686,2017-06-14 19:44:10,">>129946138 Je to super a hej, použi to. Až na to, že alternatívna pravica verbuje medzi inteligentnými ľuďmi, ale čo už. t. Snek",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497469450 129938002,129946693,2017-06-14 19:44:14,">>129946601 t. reddit lolbertarian",,Anonymous,rothbard_race_realism.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,,,1497469454 129938002,129946826,2017-06-14 19:45:23,">>129946601 I know right. fuck these conservative infiltraitors.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497469523 129938002,129946871,2017-06-14 19:45:43,">>129946601 You came into this thread well-knowing that there'd be Pinochet. You're no better than a sandnigger rapefugee, even worse, you don't kill faggots. Get out.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497469543 129938002,129946970,2017-06-14 19:46:34,">>129946686 Ty si dobrý kkt. Takéto grafiky mi posielaj. Trocha to prerobím do normie-friendly verzie, a šupiti pupity. (Inak prečo som vedel, že si to ty? :D )",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497469594 129938002,129947207,2017-06-14 19:48:23,"Geographic location, anarcho-capitalist or gadsen? Discuss.",,Anonymous,ancap_think.png,SDwjnzLvU89QiSUfvzYQIw==,GB,,1497469703 129938002,129947240,2017-06-14 19:48:36,">>129946970 Lebo som asi jediný Slovák v /lrg/. Počkaj, pošlem ti link na discord - je to lit. t. Snek",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497469716 129938002,129947293,2017-06-14 19:49:02,">>129946693 >>129946826 >>129946871 >create thread about small government and liberty >worship a dictator",,Anonymous,IMG_2537.png,NCJRUJ73GIU9BQ2q/pl74w==,US,,1497469742 129938002,129947333,2017-06-14 19:49:23,">>129946515 Nice. Now tell me why it's reasonable to believe the current parasitical (((holders of capital))) should keep their """"""property"""""" because muh natural law. Your ideology is an absurd masochistic pacifism.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497469763 129938002,129947394,2017-06-14 19:49:57,">>129947207 PROUD OF MY HERITAGE, MY PEOPLE, AND MY LAND Besides, here at /lrg/ we use flags to tell each other apart.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497469797 129938002,129947429,2017-06-14 19:50:13,">>129947293 Any society that doesn't explicity reject communism and leftism will be overcome by them.",,Anonymous,file.png,o1idkvImjcCzKgBPI3okjg==,GB,,1497469813 129938002,129947449,2017-06-14 19:50:20,">>129947293 >",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497469820 129938002,129947524,2017-06-14 19:50:57,">>129947207 white supremacist. >>129947293 He is a man. Not a god. He ended the dynasty of dictators is chile.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497469857 129938002,129947690,2017-06-14 19:52:28,">>129947524 White supremacist is too edgy for me.",,Anonymous,hoppe_expulsion.png,MYXxcYpUYsv/VE/vI3UFRw==,GB,,1497469948 129938002,129947776,2017-06-14 19:53:12,"If you live in any of these yellow states and you don't have a Gadsen license plate, you need to sort yourself out",,Anonymous,959px-Gadsden_Flag_License_Plate_by_State.svg.png,3/FVMNQWyHTHGZU5ZsUHLw==,,,1497469992 129938002,129947840,2017-06-14 19:53:43,">>129947207 Montreal, Canada. Anarcho-capitalist (I use Gadsden flag because it looks better and people here don't take the ancap flag seriously)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497470023 129938002,129948036,2017-06-14 19:55:18,">>129947333 You mean the Jews? When have I ever said this? By promoting cultural rot and decay, abusing state power to rid us of our own property, and flooding our lands with shitskins, I think they've already sealed their fate. You won't see me crying about the NAP when the violent revolution starts, and it's going to start sooner or later. If you're a NatSoc, your ideology is dysgenic as you discard the very foundation of what made Europeans superior to other peoples of the world, and that is short time preference for wealth and having to provide for themselves in a harsh climate. The Jews have broken the rules they'd put up to keep the goyim in line. Well now the goyim have realised that the line does not exist and they've been tricked. That's the end of the nose.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497470118 129938002,129948065,2017-06-14 19:55:31,">>129938002 So I just found out while debating a FUCKING COMMIE that apparently Chile has privatized water, and they found that the privatized water companies were of far higher quality than the public water companies. So yeah, that's pretty cool. I'm no ancap, but when the fucking water utility is proven to work as a private system then I'm definitely reconsidering my position.",,Anonymous,keloid.gif,Du4tOV8LwNJZyChDc4mDxA==,,,1497470131 129938002,129948296,2017-06-14 19:57:28,">>129948036 well said.",,Anonymous,revolution.jpg,QYfH7DalW4kSgwKI20IBTw==,,,1497470248 129938002,129948431,2017-06-14 19:58:33,">>129948036 This, the goyim know.",,Anonymous,1496085231943.png,fJk+zIeC5I4jZ/zsN4Y7DQ==,,,1497470313 129938002,129948633,2017-06-14 20:00:08,">>129947776 i drive a company truck otherwise i would have already >>129948065 how does piping work? do they share underground pipes? is there one company per county? is the piping network a huge clusterfuck? i don't see that working",,Anonymous,,,,,1497470408 129938002,129948662,2017-06-14 20:00:25,">tfw I wanna get a Gadsden tattoo but british but it's an american thing. What do lads?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497470425 129938002,129948796,2017-06-14 20:01:30,">>129938002 >LIBERTARIAN Why are you flying an anarchist flag? You are confused. It's time for you to pick a side.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497470490 129938002,129948858,2017-06-14 20:01:56,">>129948633 I don't know how the system works in detail, you can check out more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_Chile#1998-2004:_Privatization Of note is this particular segment: >The privatization was carried out in stages, beginning with the five largest of the 13 regional water companies serving more than 75% of users. Because of the staging, it is possible to compare the performance of the privatized and public utilities at that time. This comparison shows that from 1998 to 2001 private companies invested substantially more than public companies and - unlike the public companies - increased their labor productivity significantly. Tariffs increased for both types of companies, but more so for the privatized ones. However, according to one study, ""in Chile a social consensus emerged that has made the higher water rates acceptable given the improvements in service quality and the addition of new services such as wastewater treatment.""",,Anonymous,owl.jpg,ghwUPEYpkwoanh9mdVNqZg==,,,1497470516 129938002,129948934,2017-06-14 20:02:37,">>129948796 nice try nigger, we both get along pretty good.",,Anonymous,1488125235348.jpg,8Z64/9Xpf6grp9L6BGdISg==,,,1497470557 129938002,129949063,2017-06-14 20:03:35,">>129942146 Does anyone have the Mehmet my son version of this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497470615 129938002,129949074,2017-06-14 20:03:36,">>129948662 It's not even really an ""American"" symbol, it's the symbol of all those who don't want their rights trampled on, it just so happens that Americans use it the most.",,Anonymous,cock.gif,FuutkSAhGPxlPAvLUtykUw==,,,1497470616 129938002,129949163,2017-06-14 20:04:25,">>129948662 do it. post here with /lrg/ timestamp.",,Anonymous,Gadsden.png,qysOnIm3eJQbJOSYSf681Q==,,,1497470665 129938002,129949270,2017-06-14 20:05:18,">>129938834 Based",,Anonymous,,,,,1497470718 129938002,129949377,2017-06-14 20:06:10,">>129949074 What is this from",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497470770 129938002,129949409,2017-06-14 20:06:20,">>129949074 sauce for the gif",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1497470780 129938002,129949614,2017-06-14 20:07:53,"Who else here /classic ancap/? I think hoppeanists and libertarian fascists are friends and politically they're definitely closest to me besides maybe agorists or minarchists, but I personally don't share the exact same ideals as them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497470873 129938002,129949626,2017-06-14 20:08:00,">>129948036 >You won't see me crying about the NAP when the violent revolution starts Good, the NAP doesn't matter, it's fucking air. Natural resources will not be mismanaged by bloated multinationals. They will be nationalised and governed by people who have a deep, ethnic stake in the nation and it's people. I'm not natsoc. In many ways natsoc was a 1930s german workers movement. Hitler said something on the subject though: ""There is no license any more, no private sphere where the individual belongs to himself. That is socialism, not such trivial matters as the possibility of privately owning the means of production. Such things mean nothing if I subject people to a kind of discipline they can't escape...What need have we to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings"" You are full of shit. The history of Europe's superiority is the history of Europe today. Capitalism is useful if it's useful. It should never be treated as a goal or principle, it's a poor one.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497470880 129938002,129949778,2017-06-14 20:09:14,this thread is gay,,Anonymous,,,,,1497470954 129938002,129949795,2017-06-14 20:09:22,">>129949377 >>129949409 Short trailer/film called Keloid. It's not a real movie, just a bunch of gif worthy segments put together of kickass robots. I mostly use them because this is what I imagine an anarcho-capitalist army would look like in the future.",,Anonymous,heli.gif,HOYAU+ruFB78ugWq6GXI0g==,,,1497470962 129938002,129949920,2017-06-14 20:10:18,">>129949626 > ""There is no license any more, no private sphere where the individual belongs to himself. That is socialism Wow Hitler really was a moron You entire post is retarded. So many morons like you out there are stupid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497471018 129938002,129949963,2017-06-14 20:10:44,">>129949614 what ideals specifically?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497471044 129938002,129950059,2017-06-14 20:11:31,">>129949920 You are just a small man with a tiny peanut brain.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497471091 129938002,129950258,2017-06-14 20:13:15,">>129949963 physical removal, closed borders. Personally, in ancapistan I'd live in a private community with closed borders and a no-commie policy, but I don't believe these should be necessarily enforced on others. I can see the appeal in using these tactics to reach a state where a libertarian society can be instated, however.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497471195 129938002,129950367,2017-06-14 20:14:09,">>129949626 Hitler was a fucking retard who got half of Europe under the bootheel of communism for decades thanks to his incompetence. Why anyone would hold him up as an ideal is beyond me.",,Anonymous,run.gif,vX1C6dwkCobLVZBmmwlXFA==,,,1497471249 129938002,129950703,2017-06-14 20:16:51,">>129950258 Hah, that's funny. Your solution to politics is essentially just 'peaceful coexistance'. Wonder why no-one ever thought of that... Almost like there are conflicting interests fighting over limited resources or something.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497471411 129938002,129950787,2017-06-14 20:17:35,">>129948662 Don't get a tattoo lad, you'll regret it someday",,Anonymous,,,,,1497471455 129938002,129951058,2017-06-14 20:19:47,">>129950059 phyiscal removal is forceful exclusion from one's property, totally fine in purest ancap ethics. Closed/Open borders has nothing to do with ancapistan. Closed borders is the State telling you you cant have certain people in your community. Open borders is the state telling you you can't exclude others from your community. Its a misnomer at best, and a propaganda strategy for a global state at worst.",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,kjzv7W5jKnSx19ggmzlUag==,,,1497471587 129938002,129951129,2017-06-14 20:20:22,">>129950703 What else would it take to transfer to a free-market anarchist society besides the voluntary (e.g. achieved through countereconomics) or forceful privitization and seperation of state services? If you're against libertarianism, which is in essence ""peaceful coexistance"", than why are you in it's general?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497471622 129938002,129951234,2017-06-14 20:21:17,>>129938002,,Anonymous,1495311097557.png,EZAyfGhjz7VlnFyW+FuSUA==,US,,1497471677 129938002,129951286,2017-06-14 20:21:41,">>129950703 You don't have to live with each other, but you do have to live next to each other peacefully. Refusal to do so is what got the fascist nations destroyed.",,Anonymous,gtfo.gif,H9G3yfEoa7eSVgaoj1JKLg==,,,1497471701 129938002,129951389,2017-06-14 20:22:28,">>129951129 >than why are you in it's general? because he is a socialist ans probably a protestant, just look at his flag",,Anonymous,squad.jpg,5NBG5DCTo7poRD5Jx4Bc9A==,,,1497471748 129938002,129951444,2017-06-14 20:22:53,">>129939005 >gommunists",,Anonymous,1464141611607.jpg,Xi3b/3LpkcT891OHf/92bA==,,,1497471773 129938002,129951473,2017-06-14 20:23:06,">>129950367 You are literally sub-human. You think your self-servitude is something other than masturbation. Meanwhile Hitler made a nation of move as one entity towards a common goal. Why does that irk you? Are you afraid of being brainwashed by a demagogue and losing yourself? Have some faith in others. People followed Hitler because they wanted it, it spoke to the highest point in them when society revolved around the lowest and most nihilistic. Wake up.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497471786 129938002,129951476,2017-06-14 20:23:09,">>129950703 Fuck off nigger, if you're so ahead of us then fuck off and be better than us. you're a cuckboi wannabe fascist. >>129951129 dont reason with him. This is the failure of ""/classic ancap/"" he'd be killing you by now while you'd be trying to reason with him. The failure of open borders is that this guy now has ""freedom of movement"" to get as close to you as he wants.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497471789 129938002,129951507,2017-06-14 20:23:22,Am i when em dose Libertarians?,,Anonymous,pic compass 3.png-large.png,8tVq1YQ37DzhACZKLLtbHg==,,,1497471802 129938002,129951702,2017-06-14 20:25:09,">>129951129 >which is in essence ""peaceful coexistance"" Fucking delusions dude. Scary.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497471909 129938002,129951705,2017-06-14 20:25:10,">>129951473 >Meanwhile Hitler made a nation of move as one entity towards a common goal The collective destruction of Europe? Does it bother you that Hitler benefited the Jews more than anyone else? Or that for all his efforts, he merely ensure that everything east of Berlin would fall to communism?",,Anonymous,1024px-Mike_Mullen_with_Chilean_honor_guard_in_Santiago_3-3-09.jpg,FyTjqT4xlNxv4jZem1hRKw==,,,1497471910 129938002,129951727,2017-06-14 20:25:25,">>129951507 you're the red square of purple square, /sortyourselfout/.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497471925 129938002,129951822,2017-06-14 20:26:08,">>129950703 Jesus, why the fuck didn't you change you flag? Fucking embarrassing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497471968 129938002,129951878,2017-06-14 20:26:37,">>129951727 Defuck does that mean?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497471997 129938002,129952004,2017-06-14 20:27:36,">>129951878 it means get better, FGT.",,Anonymous,1478359321236.png,X+dZuJk312TsqtXOkntV3g==,,,1497472056 129938002,129952097,2017-06-14 20:28:20,">>129951473 Europe was at it's peak with the holy roman empire of german nation, and it was very close to hoppeanism, but you nordcucks constantly tried to ruin it until you finally got it destroyed.",,Anonymous,akari31.jpg,UymSkkmwEkFVL4c1woEavw==,,,1497472100 129938002,129952124,2017-06-14 20:28:32,">>129938329 wants a fully automatic rifle, HA, go learn to shoot a a weapon first.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497472112 129938002,129952270,2017-06-14 20:29:43,">>129951705 Like I said, I'm not natsoc. Is a libertarian going to argue practicalities with me? Hitler mobilised his entire country for war. Libertarianism and ancap has NEVER amounted to anything because it's completely out of this world ignorant of reality. So you guys are jerking eachother off over some intellectual NOTHING instead of being practical. That's sad to see and it doesn't help anyone.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497472183 129938002,129952274,2017-06-14 20:29:47,">>129952124 show me your geographic flag anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497472187 129938002,129952350,2017-06-14 20:30:27,">>129951476 >This is the failure of ""/classic ancap/"" he'd be killing you by now while you'd be trying to reason with him. The failure of open borders is that this guy now has ""freedom of movement"" to get as close to you as he wants. If he came into my private property I'd shoot him the fuck down, or have whatever private police company I've hired have it done for me. My property is my own state, and it is the only state I belong to.",,Anonymous,1469474172213.png,xKEJy4QfOMQxQwAtWWNdig==,,,1497472227 129938002,129952402,2017-06-14 20:30:55,">>129952004 Well how do I fix it? What did I do wrong?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497472255 129938002,129952444,2017-06-14 20:31:13,">>129952270 >Hitler mobilised his entire country for war. That's a good thing?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497472273 129938002,129952494,2017-06-14 20:31:37,">>129952274 here faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497472297 129938002,129952644,2017-06-14 20:32:46,">>129952097 >it was very close to hoppeanism No it wasn't you fucking mental case. Hoppeanism is nothing, it's fruitcake masturbation by dorks. Just look at the guys posting robot armies in this thread and see what it is.",,Anonymous,fc1.png,VHZCs77/DTZMVfSQzcDSVw==,SE,,1497472366 129938002,129952941,2017-06-14 20:34:59,">>129952444 Yes, there are things worth fighting for.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497472499 129938002,129953014,2017-06-14 20:35:37,">>129952644 >only muh socialism can save me the muslims will hang you when they got their swedish caliphate",,Anonymous,squadrismo-3.jpg,oXxO5YL6pn50HPUHxA222w==,,,1497472537 129938002,129953032,2017-06-14 20:35:42,">>129952270 I'm with the fucking faggot commie on this one, how is Hitler mobilizing his nation for war a good thing? War is incredibly inefficient and wasteful of resources, it should be a last resort.",,Anonymous,girls.jpg,fRUgDsoPX2dL9MFCX+OyaA==,,,1497472542 129938002,129953100,2017-06-14 20:36:15,">>129952444 The greater issue is that national socialism was effective as far as radical ideologies go. Values matter, but it's only worth talking about things that are in this world, are effective.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497472575 129938002,129953287,2017-06-14 20:37:34,">>129952270 >Hitler mobilised his entire country for war. Libertarians wouldn't have started that war in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497472654 129938002,129953426,2017-06-14 20:38:30,">>129953100 Effective at what? Are you one of those dumb faggots that thinks that Germany had the entire world against them?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497472710 129938002,129953449,2017-06-14 20:38:40,">>129952350 I hope you're serious. just to be clear. we're all ""real"" ancaps. may I suggest reading some late rothbard, most of our ""edgy shit"" comes from him and hoppe. for borders check out nations by consent. https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8 https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html check this stuff out. m8.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497472720 129938002,129953512,2017-06-14 20:39:06,">>129953032 That's because you have no values. You are a manchild caught in satisfying the ego. It doesn't matter if your resource use is mad efficient on the train to nowhere.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497472746 129938002,129953563,2017-06-14 20:39:27,">>129953287 >Libertarians wouldn't have started that war in the first place. Not so sure, would you just watch when poles massacre your fellow countrymen?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497472767 129938002,129953601,2017-06-14 20:39:46,">>129953449 Thanks, links saved.",,Anonymous,1488400957733.png,v8f+mzptezSyNQ3mCRBl7A==,,,1497472786 129938002,129953735,2017-06-14 20:40:57,">>129953512 So not wanting an ineffective authoritarian government to wage war on all its surrounding neighbors thus leading to half of Europe suffering under communism for decades means I have no values. Okay then.",,Anonymous,gear up.gif,vxT7uRAE8ry4hqNad83Frw==,,,1497472857 129938002,129953814,2017-06-14 20:41:33,">>129952270 >Libertarianism and ancap has NEVER amounted to anything I wouldn't call the American revolution nothing. Also laissez faire politics enabled the English to become an economic powerhouse during the industrial revolution. >intellectual NOTHING instead of being practical You're the one glorifying intentions and not looking at the horrible results of fascism. How's that practical?",,Anonymous,Ron Explain.jpg,fRcyi8mTXsA0j9cKyOcDKQ==,,,1497472893 129938002,129954053,2017-06-14 20:43:14,">>129953426 >Are you one of those dumb faggots that thinks that Germany had the entire world against them? No. Simply, natsoc policies where implemented and they largely produced the intended result. This is not about natsoc, libertarian policies have only ever resulted in the consolidation of financial power in ever larger and more bloated organizations. Talk about efficiency.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497472994 129938002,129954235,2017-06-14 20:44:35,">>129953814 I wish I could physically fist bump you through this screen. Where did this idea come from that we're the impractical ones?",,Anonymous,ded.jpg,FFO4Djd+NVBKDY1/rAYF8g==,,,1497473075 129938002,129954264,2017-06-14 20:44:51,">>129952402 anatomy of the state. https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf",,Anonymous,,,,,1497473091 129938002,129954269,2017-06-14 20:44:52,">enjoys transportation paid by taxes TAX >police (paid by taxes) protects you IS >covered by medicare/medicaid which is paid for by taxes THEFT",,Anonymous,IMG_2373.jpg,uFBBoyRoKAixpHoyZowRHQ==,,,1497473092 129938002,129954607,2017-06-14 20:47:37,>>129944212,,Anonymous,765689.jpg,feAu/3azdUOe2+GaVNm9Rw==,,,1497473257 129938002,129955272,2017-06-14 20:52:47,">>129953601 Please do check them out, either way. hang around. you'll get into it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497473567 129938002,129955298,2017-06-14 20:53:04,">>129953735 That's not what I said though is it you dishonest bugman. >>129953814 Laissez-faire politics may be very effective at creating a healthy entrepreneurial spirit in the transitionary period. Who cares? How do we deal with the problems of today? The arbitrary restriction of what libertarians call ""force"" in the laissez-faire system is not inhibiting, it's a poor analogy to evolution which is completely dependent on force. Just use force when it is appropriate and don't get caught up in ideology. >>129953814 >You're the one glorifying intentions and not looking at the horrible results of fascism. How's that practical? I don't think there is anything more horrible than contemporary western society, the magnitude of the suffering may be lower than some of the worst atrocities but the extent is total in time and space. You're a stupid word-thinker. What is a fascist? I want to deal with the problems of today, that's practical.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497473584 129938002,129955489,2017-06-14 20:54:25,">>129954607 >muh dead commie ghosts Now that's larping.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497473665 129938002,129956255,2017-06-14 21:00:09,">>129949795 Thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497474009 129938002,129956342,2017-06-14 21:00:45,">>129955298 >That's not what I said though is it you dishonest bugman. You're the one being dishonest here. You know darn well that libertarians value liberty. That is what we'll go to war for.",,Anonymous,parachute.jpg,J2U/YyXRwh8WjyyuoLjtmA==,,,1497474045 129938002,129956829,2017-06-14 21:04:45,"DUDE NO TAXES LMAO",,Anonymous,,,,,1497474285 129938002,129957294,2017-06-14 21:08:31,">>129938908 I almost believe this. Ancient historians often talked about tribes being ""more suited for slavery than warfare."" In a sense, slavery was the first humanitarian initiative. Rather than killing the tribe out right, give them a chance to live in exchange for their freedom. I still would prefer to minimize the amount of slavery.",,Anonymous,SPQR.jpg,DV0ReKxzL5si05wy71zKcw==,,,1497474511 129938002,129957296,2017-06-14 21:08:32,">>129955298 >Who cares? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_the_economy,_stupid >How do we deal with the problems of today? If government didn't subsidize failure the problems would be lessened significantly. >Just use force when it is appropriate I'd prefer not to live in a dystopian nightmare with mass graves being standard practice. >I don't think there is anything more horrible than contemporary western society Then denounce socialism and central planning because that's what caused the downfall. Also you don't seem to realize that it was Hitler's failure that made nationalism a dirty word. >I WANT to deal with the problems of today, that's practical Practicality is actually doing something effectively. Wanting to do something brings you back to intentions dummy.",,Anonymous,Natalia spaced out.jpg,cPNMZWTN/I9njo39imE/zg==,,,1497474512 129938002,129957449,2017-06-14 21:09:51,">>129956829 taxes are fucking gay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZbrG0tWXWs",,Anonymous,,,,,1497474591 129938002,129957805,2017-06-14 21:12:44,">>129956342 >you know darn well we value liberty. Like arguing with a house pet. I'm not trying to show you that you don't value liberty, whatever that means. It could just mean that everyone can have whatever values they like, which isn't really a value. So I guess you won't fight for anything, or rather you'll fight to defend the """"property"""" of jewish multinationals because some german economist wrote a book. Hitler was right to nationalise economic resources that were not being managed according to national interests. Is that an illegitimate aggressive action according to you?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497474764 129938002,129959093,2017-06-14 21:23:10,bump.,,Anonymous,snek (13).png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,,,1497475390 129938002,129959240,2017-06-14 21:24:15,">>129957296 >mass graves Like I'm gonna play strawman with a snekonomist. >If government didn't subsidize failure the problems would be lessened significantly. That's retarded dogma. Let's look at the bank bailouts in 2008. First of all the bailouts were necessary because of the phenomenon of regulatory capture. Now if you can capture a regulatory agency why can't you capture a bailout commission? Is the state really the root problem is it acts as the extension of private power at every turn? Obviously the answer is no. Second, what would the cost have been if the banks were allowed to collapse? I'd prefer not to live in a dystopian nightmare with mass graves being standard practice. It's a systemic issue. The ""free"" market, which is really an arbitrary way of organizing the economy creates it's own imbalances, these imbalances that aren't punished with loss of profit should be punished with force. International power should not be allowed to exist because it threatens sovereignty, it doesn't matter how private, free or gay it is.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497475455 129938002,129959499,2017-06-14 21:26:19,">>129957805 I'd fight to keep people from telling me what words I'm allowed to say, what weapons I'm allowed to own, and what I'm allowed to spend my money on.",,Anonymous,stosser.jpg,HGtqIFugskL1/2VN49aRtg==,,,1497475579 129938002,129959802,2017-06-14 21:28:41,">>129959499 so radical",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497475721 129938002,129960079,2017-06-14 21:30:57,">>129959802 Yes, it is.",,Anonymous,meme.jpg,BDd9sZmA83k+bl0yISP3Pg==,,,1497475857 129938002,129960542,2017-06-14 21:34:56,">>129947207 U.S. pirate.",,Anonymous,Wojack_1776.jpg,SQ5upGhvpzdJ4TAae5mb0g==,,,1497476096 129938002,129960931,2017-06-14 21:38:15,">>129959802 if it makes you feel any better swedecucks are genetically socialists. Youre not supposed to understand the virutes of being your own man.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497476295 129938002,129961028,2017-06-14 21:39:10,">>129960079 No it's the freedom to be a fucking useless faggot. Just listen to yourself: >what I'm allowed to spend my money on. Money is a function of the state and it's extensions you fucking monkey. No one cares if you spend money, in fact it's encouraged. Surely you have to admit that the person that refuses to spend money is 1000x more radical than you are. Best goy.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497476350 129938002,129961188,2017-06-14 21:40:41,">>129961028 Then why do all these governments care so much how and when I spend my money?",,Anonymous,factions.jpg,VC28WqD956kFj6l71uFHdw==,,,1497476441 129938002,129961223,2017-06-14 21:41:02,">>129961028 Money is just an agreement between people that certain tokens represent economic value. That in no way requires a state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497476462 129938002,129961281,2017-06-14 21:41:36,"Do you guys think that libertarianism is lost on the average person? Obviously it requires a high iq society, but a lot of the people I know who are reasonably intelligent and are even socially conservative tend to still be slightly heir economics. Coming from an economically neutral POV here so no hate bbz",,Anonymous,IMG_1302.jpg,jzVQAHUYKsu+kWUGNBlrFA==,GB,,1497476496 129938002,129961412,2017-06-14 21:42:43,">>129961281 Lean towards slightly Leftist economics*",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497476563 129938002,129961443,2017-06-14 21:43:03,">>129961188 That's not the trend. Consumption is getting more and more depraved and permissive.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497476583 129938002,129961598,2017-06-14 21:44:14,">>129961223 I didn't say anything to contradict you. The fact is that money is a state service currently.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497476654 129938002,129961769,2017-06-14 21:45:39,">>129961281 Well, for stupid people, it's just ""why won't you give me free shit?"" For average people, they know something is wrong with the welfare system, but they can't detail the precise problems, so they're easily convinced by the emotional pleas of the stupid. The rich and smart know that everyone would be better off with libertarian economics, but they're rich and smart so they're vilified by the lower classes and viewed as self-serving evil monsters.",,Anonymous,expanse.jpg,65h6XCD4huHDnk5cKJuMSQ==,,,1497476739 129938002,129961805,2017-06-14 21:45:56,">>129961281 its a europe thing to be economically cucked. even so its slowly happening in the states too. most innawoods folks in america are libertarians or hardline conservatives.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497476756 129938002,129961808,2017-06-14 21:45:57,">>129959240 >mass graves >strawman Oh look it's the ""Hitler dindu nuffin"" shit again. >bank bailouts in 2008 Caused by the Clinton administration with the home ownership initiative that forced banks to make bad loans to people who couldn't afford them. The Glass-Steagall act would've just limited the damage not prevent the bubble from occurring. >if you can capture a regulatory agency why can't you capture a bailout commission? >Is the state really the root problem Obviously it is. >extension of private power But it's using the government to wield that power and abuse tax payers and customers. How did you even make that leap of logic? >if the banks were allowed to collapse The banks made such risky investments in the first place because they knew any losses would be recouped by the tax payer. In fact the leading banks profited massively by destroying their competition as the politicians only allowed certain banks to survive. >an arbitrary way of organizing the economy As opposed to central planning? I'll take it. And it's not arbitrary. The free market allowed for the most economic growth of any economic policy as evidenced by early US, Hong Kong, Victorian England and many other systems which didn't go down the awful road of central planning. >these imbalances that aren't punished with loss of profit should be punished with force Are you the same guy that wants to chimp out every time someone ""mismanages"" their property?",,Anonymous,Roman silver-denarius.png,OPm2O/HPDmjpQl2LvUR1VQ==,,,1497476757 129938002,129961856,2017-06-14 21:46:22,">>129961443 Good. It's about time they stayed out of people's business.",,Anonymous,mask.jpg,mw9OHzQDVGVbr4Er6AbzPw==,,,1497476782 129938002,129961870,2017-06-14 21:46:29,">>129947840 > and people here don't take the Canadian flag seriously",,Anonymous,,,,,1497476789 129938002,129961955,2017-06-14 21:47:11,"ANCAP TRAP HAREMS WHEN?!?! >HIPPITY-HOPPITY-HORMONES",,Anonymous,343725_10.jpg,KzkKuWsq3X3Q1Xg9SVdw2w==,,,1497476831 129938002,129962035,2017-06-14 21:47:45,">>129961598 So? It doesn't need to be. ""Obey the state! Your money is just the state graciously granting you the ability to transact!"" isn't an argument, since the state can just be cut out of the equation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497476865 129938002,129962281,2017-06-14 21:50:01,">>129961955 kill yourself. faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497477001 129938002,129962604,2017-06-14 21:52:41,">>129961188 I fit into the areas seen circled. >>129961281 Understandable concern. Social, Enviormental/Economic Darwinism can go about to change this however it will take time. It's also important to make sure culture doesn't lose connection to its idea of communitarianism while promoting intelligence and individualism. While yes Individualism is the ideal, individualism in favor of the group is the ultimate goal. >>129961955 You can fucking leave, we don't need gay shit in here.",,Anonymous,Fitting_In.jpg,22MineALQQxz1UKmdcHlyA==,,,1497477161 129938002,129963226,2017-06-14 21:58:03,">>129962281 >>129962604 This post is my property, launch some TOW missiles at my apartment if you can find it. Besides, why miss out on an amazing lucrative opportunity that can keep your helipad humming? >no roads? bueno, traigan las maricas por helicopter! They'll get you happy faster than a falling commie :D",,Anonymous,,,,,1497477483 129938002,129963310,2017-06-14 21:58:49,">>129963226 beat it fag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497477529 129938002,129963621,2017-06-14 22:01:32,">>129963310 >we peckerwood now Come back, you can't avoid the antrap harems, just accept it! It's tight at first, but it'll get softer past the sphincter, I promise :D",,Anonymous,,,,,1497477692 129938002,129963770,2017-06-14 22:02:39,">>129953563 They could always move to my country. Literally just walk across the border.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497477759 129938002,129964114,2017-06-14 22:05:39,ay,,Anonymous,07f50d4f1667a8ca89849249240ebbb9.jpg,ccuHt9jSpTC7CAUFv9wl+A==,,,1497477939 129938002,129964712,2017-06-14 22:10:45,">>129954264 Shit, Just because i agreed on the environment regulations I'm a terrible person.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497478245 129938002,129965152,2017-06-14 22:15:00,">>129938542 Do you know about the Mexican libertarian party? They have a tweeter account.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497478500 129938002,129965731,2017-06-14 22:19:59,"Hey, pretty much a reformed lefty a d I've got found myself leaning this way ever since I looked into some economic stuff and uncucked myself From hating guns, wanted to know where I i sjould go from here, any books I should read or any people I should look into.",,Anonymous,IMG_3313.png,88gDvfjnupAdGNO4ZB2eFg==,US,,1497478799 129938002,129966396,2017-06-14 22:25:49,">>129965731 Read capitalistic literature like Von Mises. Start with Bastait. Lot of people here like Christopher Cantwell, I'm neutral on him. Molyneux is great if you want to watch someone go down into craziness. Styxhexenhammer is pretty good but not an ancap or even that laissez-faire.Hoppe's pretty good for an argument against democracy and for aristocracy. Gun Germs and Steel is necessary same with the Bell Curve. Ron Paul's Essays/Books are great and you should subscribe to the liberty report. Thats all I can think of right now. Hope that helped.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497479149 129938002,129967102,2017-06-14 22:31:50,">>129965731 Plenty of stuff in the OP. I'm partial to Rothbard and Sowell. https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf Free to Choose series from Friedman is pretty fantastic. Features a younger Sowell as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4",,Anonymous,sowell funs.jpg,fhfO2M0Sg6sz7Hl8rlOzCQ==,,,1497479510 129938002,129968223,2017-06-14 22:41:35,"I have 25ETH How do i cash out without getting taxed or having it seized by my bank?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497480095 129938002,129969429,2017-06-14 22:52:26,">>129965152 There's no Mexican libertarian party. People in Mexico are either apolitical or commies. There's no middle ground",,Anonymous,,,,,1497480746 129938002,129970070,2017-06-14 22:58:04,">>129939005 >pay one tard twenty dollars >le blown the frick outtie",,Anonymous,,,,,1497481084 129938002,129970195,2017-06-14 22:59:07,">>129965731 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497481147 129938002,129970708,2017-06-14 23:04:03,Ancap ak47? Lol no fuck libtards,,Anonymous,,,,,1497481443 129938002,129970749,2017-06-14 23:04:26,">>129949074 >""The Gadsden flag is a historical American flag with a yellow field depicting a rattlesnake coiled and ready to strike."" I",,Anonymous,,,,,1497481466 129938002,129971020,2017-06-14 23:06:48,">>129949074 >It's not even really an ""American"" symbol",,Anonymous,e6e9118e9acdb3dd1bbf3bac90a7e4207d98f7d39edbded8c5b2d083a78d13c7.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1497481608 129938002,129971164,2017-06-14 23:08:20,">>129938536 You know what to do",,Anonymous,71b.jpg,yEPH/feZanQwpftJoPGq7Q==,,,1497481700 129938002,129971295,2017-06-14 23:09:27,Not supporting the pirates question mark,,Anonymous,,,,,1497481767 129938002,129971610,2017-06-14 23:12:21,">>129971295 Always support the pirates my friend.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497481941 129938002,129971652,2017-06-14 23:12:43,">>129971164 >Lolbertarians using an authoritarian dictator for their memes Fucking moron",,Anonymous,IMG_2771.jpg,b54iLwhaBOTEPsYkTSfB7A==,,,1497481963 129938002,129973782,2017-06-14 23:34:00,">>129970749 >>129971020 Okay, I was mistaken. America is a freedom symbol.",,Anonymous,liberty.jpg,TkjCxq3qluZeq3cYMQxEhw==,,,1497483240 129938002,129975349,2017-06-14 23:50:25,">>129965731 Youtube Milton Friedman. I think he has one of the clearest ways of describing the virtues of markets. IMO ancaps and socialist are both have philosophy that works-if you completely change human nature.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497484225 129938002,129976176,2017-06-14 23:59:49,">>129971652 >cant take a joke why am I not surprised. does consent exist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497484789 129951098,129951098,2017-06-14 20:20:07,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - MI GENERAL EDITION,Anonymous,1200px-Gadsden_flag.svg.png,bWPkgADB8BCeOFKtfTzI0Q==,,,1497471607 129951098,129951187,2017-06-14 20:20:56,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society.",,Anonymous,chart.png,V3tfJBplYI0yxzh8aG0j5A==,,,1497471656 129951098,129951245,2017-06-14 20:21:22,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,1497277740499.png,+J5Y75xJoZXKKXsnaNGX9Q==,,,1497471682 129951098,129951296,2017-06-14 20:21:45,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,fe15e67a9b988ec0fa224a698fd4adb512d77f39b8421fd914d33f4e7dc3b7e5.jpg,K8g8mdHdGCx+zl/cKk3zVQ==,,,1497471705 129951098,129951353,2017-06-14 20:22:11,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,1485301647015.jpg,5w3kwPEvlw3wV6P3Ljr8yw==,,,1497471731 129951098,129951394,2017-06-14 20:22:31,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo",,Anonymous,1497305347522.jpg,RZQgFNkvuepBcP9qRdIu1g==,,,1497471751 129951098,129951461,2017-06-14 20:23:00,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,1493067357974.png,nT2XaG4PFn1A6ozQcixizg==,,,1497471780 129951098,129951795,2017-06-14 20:25:56,,,Anonymous,1qtxw2.jpg,jp7Zesj8DYoa884qsc8UqQ==,,,1497471956 130055675,130055675,2017-06-15 15:21:26,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - WHY IS THERE SO MUCH SHITPOSTING EDITION,Anonymous,fully automated helicopter rides.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,,,1497540086 130055675,130055757,2017-06-15 15:22:10,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,ideologies spangebub.jpg,sm0ZQ/0SS4WswyPBR1JTGw==,,,1497540130 130055675,130055827,2017-06-15 15:22:44,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,commie tears.jpg,LRJpYNKvM3n9lqzyBUkVbw==,,,1497540164 130055675,130055967,2017-06-15 15:23:56,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,hoppe commies covenant.jpg,ckKjaFAUScKcuxT33B/0Hg==,,,1497540236 130055675,130056030,2017-06-15 15:24:30,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,helicopters.jpg,1ojtPioKtbdGDIV7TeqsQA==,,,1497540270 130055675,130056091,2017-06-15 15:24:57,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo",,Anonymous,do it for hoppe.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,,,1497540297 130055675,130056110,2017-06-15 15:25:09,">>130055827 tl;dr on road to serfdom?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497540309 130055675,130056122,2017-06-15 15:25:15,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,economics 101.jpg,yhwDw3X2EiayGAKQATqqKg==,,,1497540315 130055675,130056147,2017-06-15 15:25:31,Beat,,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1497540331 130055675,130056196,2017-06-15 15:25:52,">>130056110 >implying I've read it dude roads lmao i don't know shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1497540352 130055675,130056339,2017-06-15 15:27:05,Best thread. Fuck commies.,,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,kjzv7W5jKnSx19ggmzlUag==,US,,1497540425 130055675,130056372,2017-06-15 15:27:21,">>130056196 What have you read then? Harry Potters?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497540441 130055675,130056589,2017-06-15 15:29:18,">>130056372 That was a shit book. Never should have done that book report. Pretty much inclusive mudblood Griffindor good, white slitherin bad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497540558 130055675,130056660,2017-06-15 15:30:00,">>130056372 > Nah, we're currently discussing older stuff. The Second Treatise of Government is the current topic of the book club. Join the discord link, faggit.",,Anonymous,memri fisting.png,mETDVJpMRFBW28Bs0WTLxg==,,,1497540600 130055675,130056730,2017-06-15 15:30:43,">>130056589 Yeah HP is SEVERELY overrated. It's basically a fairytale.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497540643 130055675,130057159,2017-06-15 15:34:32,">>130056730 It's typical commie garbage. Everyone who's not black or part of the liberal house is a bad goy.",,Anonymous,Pinochet.png,Msim3NPGWupV/N+e7MwESA==,US,,1497540872 130055675,130057325,2017-06-15 15:35:58,who /arabposting/ here?,,Anonymous,arab ball daughters.png,mhxm6ScRET8Mtm4tAinaJA==,,,1497540958 130055675,130057571,2017-06-15 15:38:02,">>130057325 >One wasn't a virgin Oh Ahmed, you rascal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497541082 130055675,130057595,2017-06-15 15:38:17,">>130057159 Thatäs why I said it,desu..",,Anonymous,,,,,1497541097 130055675,130057676,2017-06-15 15:39:05,">>130057595 *that's",,Anonymous,,,,,1497541145 130055675,130057777,2017-06-15 15:40:06,This is now a pro-Libertarian meme.,,Anonymous,1493072896393.png,QvWanOjwZGA8aHq3aZHvMA==,US,,1497541206 130055675,130057888,2017-06-15 15:41:12,,,Anonymous,Libertarians and Ancaps ready to be overrun by commies.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,,,1497541272 130055675,130058162,2017-06-15 15:43:41,">>130057888 Spainposter was pretty lame senpai, he could never get down with helicopter removal. P.cucked. /lrg/ is pro-commie killing.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1497541421 130055675,130058290,2017-06-15 15:44:56,">>130058162 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUZrDX5P7A",,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,,,1497541496 130055675,130058437,2017-06-15 15:46:08,Who Objectivist-Libertarian here?,,Anonymous,,,,,1497541568 130055675,130058580,2017-06-15 15:47:26,">>130058290 I don't have time to watch cartoons.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497541646 130055675,130058581,2017-06-15 15:47:25,">>130055757 >No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. Explain how this actually works",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497541645 130055675,130058856,2017-06-15 15:49:51,">>130058437 Anybody?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497541791 130055675,130058980,2017-06-15 15:50:51,">>130057571 I have a million of such captions in mind at any given moment. Does anybody know a simple-to-use, easy, but actually good image editor? MS Paint a shit - can't even put an outline on text, and don't get me started on the retarded cropping. Anyway - r8.",,Anonymous,pinochet freedom slavery.png,KlN/cpMAIZuboJKCDSFcLA==,,,1497541851 130055675,130059018,2017-06-15 15:51:11,">>130058580 But you have time to post on an anime image board? Why are you trying to show off on an anonymous image board? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB9oUqIcX-c",,Anonymous,Libertarians.png,xZRxt3TOdF4lJeCxS6ej4g==,,,1497541871 130055675,130059020,2017-06-15 15:51:13,">>130058581 Open/closed borders is not applicable to Libertarian ethics, the state cannot determine the wishes of all proprietors. The true Libertarian immigration policy is one where the property owners directly choose who comes into their own land. This cant be applied in the current state system has common property where people can invite terrorists to fuck everyone's day up. It's not Libertarian, but the best possible state action is vetting and border control.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497541873 130055675,130059056,2017-06-15 15:51:34,">>130059018 Yeah it's easy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497541894 130055675,130059107,2017-06-15 15:51:58,">>130058980 Gimp2 is free.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497541918 130055675,130059141,2017-06-15 15:52:19,">>130058980 Gimp?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497541939 130055675,130059222,2017-06-15 15:52:58,">>130059056 The time between your posts was 4:30, you indeed have the time as that is the length of the video.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497541978 130055675,130059284,2017-06-15 15:53:24,">>130057777 It is. Littering is property devaluation and just means you're a shit person. PICC THAT SHIT UP >>130057888 Jesus, Hoppe digits. Nice. Physical removal, especially with the ""so to speak"" added, is exactly what it sounds like - exile under threat of violence. People who pose a threat to peace do not get to cry about the NAP.",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,,,1497542004 130055675,130059333,2017-06-15 15:53:55,">>130059222 Ok then I don't want to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497542035 130055675,130059384,2017-06-15 15:54:22,">>130059222 How do you know how he used the time between?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497542062 130055675,130059411,2017-06-15 15:54:38,">>130058437 >>130058856 Bogpill me on objectivism. I know Ayn Rand, but I'm not completely familiar with her ideology.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497542078 130055675,130059660,2017-06-15 15:56:53,">>130059284 Different people have different definitions of the NAP, some agree with you, others are more lenient. This and >>130059333 this are why you guys are a joke. You aren't united and easily subverted no matter what you guys say, because the point that you can't agree on anything is a proven fact. Remember that the U.S started off Libertarian and has only declined since then.",,Anonymous,1436504935518.jpg,MxrHgDWLJO5aoeqOgQh3dQ==,,,1497542213 130055675,130059706,2017-06-15 15:57:20,">>130055675 Let's not forget it is our sworn duty to rid this board of all commies.",,Anonymous,swornduty.png,7gPIMyOftW2EMeYnjhgV8g==,,,1497542240 130055675,130059927,2017-06-15 15:59:28,">>130059411 I don't know how to feed quick pills.. http://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.php/137210/Rand_-_For_the_New_Intellectual.pdf http://douglasficek.com/teaching/phi-102/rand.pdf These are pretty short reads. Too much twisted explaining in some points, but I kinda like how everything has to start from the beginning of the beginning.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497542368 130055675,130060433,2017-06-15 16:03:52,">>130059660 No one has a different interpretation of the non aggression principle. It is well defined, you can fuck off. We're not being subverted, we're reclaiming dominance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497542632 130055675,130060482,2017-06-15 16:04:19,">>130059660 >different definitions of the NAP All of us agree you can allow or forbid access to your property. But going on someone's property and just shooting them for talking shit is retarded and doesn't belong in a civilized society. Exile is fine fascism isn't. Now stop strawmaning.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497542659 130055675,130060693,2017-06-15 16:06:12,">>130060433 >>130060482 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle#Definitional_issues",,Anonymous,,,,,1497542772 130055675,130060702,2017-06-15 16:06:17,">>130058290 Walt Bismarck had explicitly said that paleolibertarians and the Hoppe crowd were excused from those accusations. Even with that having been said, most of the blame could be put on (((cultural Marxists))), not libertarians - up until like, Konkin and Tucker, we were completely uncucked. Both Rothbard and Mises, despite being Jewish, were race-realists and fiercely anti-banking in its current form. Walt himself is a huge fan of Jared Taylor, who is a paleoconservative/paleolibertarian white nationalist and generally a much better face for the Alt-Right than Richard Spencer. >>130058581 The border of the country encloses the commons held by the nation. Most of the commons are already appropriated by individuals or groups, not to mention the (((state))) that also owns some land. By letting in a foreign people, the commons are split between even more people, who don't belong there. It encourages more overpopulation in the home regions of the immigrants, which, when stacked up, means the demographic displacement of people in developed countries. Read: demographic displacement of White people. Read: White genocide. >>130059018 All right, I'm sick and tired of having to defend my moral high ground against dysgenic skinheads in suits. You touch my property and I'll nail you to a burning cross. >""waaah, why don't you help your own?"" Nobody is more my own than myself. After that, I help my family and close friends. Then, my community, by providing them with my services and goods and exchanging them with their own, benefitting both myself AND them. Then, I help my nation through charity towards those who have contributed to it and haven't gotten anything in return for it. There's NOTHING moral about taking my property, and you trying to justify it with some Abo's ranting does not make a difference. Any society not founded on private property rights will collapse, yours barely lasted 12 years. I have no love for the ignorant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497542777 130055675,130060739,2017-06-15 16:06:37,">>130055675 Your days here are numbered lolberts. The NazBol gang is taking over.",,Anonymous,3bb9b961d28845a4c44b436fb2699f84b0ba9a759822c9d73f8c7a8f0e26fd7e.jpg,TbfIi1O9LKtfyug+gYFt7Q==,,,1497542797 130055675,130060987,2017-06-15 16:08:37,">>130060739 Fuck off and stop spamming threads Lefty/pol/",,Anonymous,,,,,1497542917 130055675,130061241,2017-06-15 16:11:04,">>130060739 >gang Just a bunch of rats, that scatter in every direction when no-one to tell what to do.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497543064 130055675,130061252,2017-06-15 16:11:07,">>130060739 shoo, shoo",,Anonymous,1488467559260.gif,hGuzJeceoS8VT56oxCSmzg==,,,1497543067 130055675,130061649,2017-06-15 16:14:33,">>130059660 The U.S. was libertarian for several generations and during that time, they were able to defy everything you lying cunts say is wrong about libertarianism. They held off a foreign invasion. They built roads. They did not succumb to degeneracy. It was only the federalists who demanded more government control over everything that ultimately led to the establishment of income taxes, welfare, gun control, and large government spending. Your own adored Franklin Roosevelt was a fucking vegetable who enslaved his people in their darkest hour, and none of you had succeeded in freeing the American people from the claws of the state, despite FDR being an enemy of Hitler and thus an enemy of yours. You're a joke, you're over, and you use whatever tiny bit of relevance you have to talk shit about those actually working to help the White race. Again, I'm willing to work with NatSocs - culturally they're the best complement to a libertarian political system when taken to its ultimate conclusion. Not with you, though - you're getting long-knife'd. Pic related is what you get when you get in bed with the government.",,Anonymous,saul alinsky.jpg,a4PBiO6dA3lGuhqtcANd3w==,,,1497543273 130055675,130061661,2017-06-15 16:14:40,">>130060693 Your point? None of those pertains to violently invading someone's property over talking. And don't even act like you fags are united at all. You can't even agree on an economic system. It's literally daddy government will fix it: the ideology.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497543280 130055675,130062035,2017-06-15 16:17:54,">>130060693 >t. Noam Chomsky The Non-Agression Principle is the principle that if attacked without justification, you have a natural right to defend yourself by any means necessary. This is tied to the biological reality of self-preservation found among all creatures on Earth - anyone not willing to defend themselves will perish. Now there is debate what is justification and what is not, I'll give you that. However, the core of the NAP still stands.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497543474 130055675,130062236,2017-06-15 16:19:41,">>130059660 Also, speaking of being united - ever heard of purity-spiralling? If the NatSoc movement disawows the Alt-Right, it doesn't matter how right you think you may be, you will lose, and rightly so.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497543581 130055675,130062431,2017-06-15 16:21:14,">>130060739 More like 2 /leftypol/ butt-buddies who are trying to find an ideology that may appeal to the socialist side of NatSoc, not realising that NatSoc had a market economy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497543674 130055675,130062690,2017-06-15 16:23:23,">>130061661 >you can't even agree on an economic system https://pastebin.com/wV97RYQT and pic related >>130061649 >They held off a foreign invasion. White house was burned >They did not succumb to degeneracy. Southerners were able to keep slaves, leading to a massive black population, melting pot meme, banks given ungodly power, etc. >They built roads. Never said they don't, Ancaps are the ones who don't. >Not with you, though - you're getting long-knife'd. Violates NAP, I thought you agreed I would be exiled, not killed? >>130062035 >Now there is debate what is justification and what is not, I'll give you that. That's what I meant. You have a right to defend yourself under fascism and NatSoc as well. >>130062236 Only skinheads and pagans do that.",,Anonymous,Fascism redpill.png,K95kbefwED2tyI8Ca+JKdg==,,,1497543803 130055675,130063054,2017-06-15 16:26:11,">>130062690 Idiots like you should be dragged into the streets and shot. I'd like to hear you beg for non-aggression.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497543971 130055675,130063073,2017-06-15 16:26:15,">>130062690 Oh a pastebin with 1500 hits and a random TLDR jew post no one is gonna bother reading.",,Anonymous,Nige clap.jpg,UXPqcFiCWOyKsWlOZEpkHQ==,,,1497543975 130055675,130063285,2017-06-15 16:28:04,">>130063054 >>130063073 Proving ignorance doesn't particularly help your case, only proves you are a violent nigger or supporting unsubstantiated claims.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497544084 130055675,130063678,2017-06-15 16:31:22,">>130063285 That random shit doesn't exactly scream unity does it? Also >you are a violent nigger >coming from a fascist Hilarious.",,Anonymous,Absolutely voluntary.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1497544282 130055675,130063698,2017-06-15 16:31:31,">>130063285 People like you can't handle honest debate. It doesn't serve anyone's cause to even bother.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497544291 130055675,130064214,2017-06-15 16:35:54,">>130063678 >random shit What are you talking about? Everything I've talked about has been responding to you, nothing has been off topic. >>130063698 I can handle debate just fine, too bad you guys can only resort to insults. You COULD argue the content I've posted, but you keep deflecting. How's this: all of you explain to me who exactly will enforce the NAP first.",,Anonymous,1478319279628.jpg,hCBMT0L3j3HBoqueny3Zrg==,,,1497544554 130055675,130064533,2017-06-15 16:38:44,">>130064214 Non aggression isn't law. It's up to the property owners to defend their own property. If they choose not to enforce it I don't give a fuck. They'll get killed and therefore less competition for me. Piss off I debate you fags every day. The time for arguments is over. Socialists need to be killed not reasoned with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497544724 130055675,130064677,2017-06-15 16:39:59,">>130064533 If you debate us every day, do you just stop reading after the ""Socialist"" part of National Socialist or what? pic related.",,Anonymous,NatSoc def of Socialism.jpg,5mHlYCqCDKaxVgmKTCNzdQ==,,,1497544799 130055675,130064706,2017-06-15 16:40:15,">>130064214 >Debating an ideology you know nothing about >Who will enforce the NAP Anyone you choose. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497544815 130055675,130065041,2017-06-15 16:43:05,">>130064677 I've read that shit a hundred times. Calling it volkish socialism doesn't change what it is. Dysgenic economic slavery.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497544985 130055675,130065324,2017-06-15 16:45:17,">>130062690 >white house burned And? They managed to defend themselves. It's not like America has any historical landmarks to lose to an enemy invasion. >slaves leading to banks Yeah nah, the massive black population was brought about by the federalists' unwillingness to deport them to Liberia as they had promised. The melting pot came about as more non-Anglo-Saxon Europeans came in, who were still very much white, and it was used by (((those))) who much preferred to use the state to further their own goals. >roads If you think there's no market incentive to build roads, then you may as well be retarded. You think cargo companies don't arise in a free market? They're going to want to have a way to transport goods around, and they'll rent the communications to others to cover their costs. That's simple economics. >muh NAP You have a right to defend yourself against it. I seriously hope you do not think that the mere existence of the NAP means we're non-agressive. >You have a right to defend yourself under fascism and NatSoc as well What if I have gotten good enough at it that I no longer need the government for police protection? You'll get more and more people training themselves in self-defence if you maintain the martial culture of fascism - one of its very positive aspects. When the government is no longer the sole guarantee of protection of the people, what comes first? The power of the government, or the right to self-defence of the people? >skinheads and pagans Communist Filth is neither, though perhaps the Iron March forums would be a better representative WITHIN the NatSoc community. Also funny how you didn't bother to respond to the Alinsky tactic - (((he))) can claim to do it for the well-being of the Volk, too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497545117 130055675,130065479,2017-06-15 16:46:33,">>130064677 You guys are no better than commies. You could never understand the virtue of being your own man. You could never understand true individual responsibility. You know you can't be trusted as an individual so obviously you feel the need to push your socialist trash on everyone else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497545193 130055675,130065738,2017-06-15 16:48:38,">>130064533 >It's up to the property owners to defend their own property. Terribly inefficient and requires multiple people agreeing on every aspect of a problem to unite. If you kill a Communist for ""going on your property"", then others will see you as dangerous. >If they choose not to enforce it I don't give a fuck. That gives less value to the NAP - less people will follow it if they know it won't be enforced. >>130065041 It's not slavery if it uses the free market, retard. see >>130062690 >>130064706 I'll watch your shitty video even though you fags won't give me the same courtesy. >>130065324 That wasn't a cause and effect with slaves leading to banks, I was just listing massive failures with the system. >>130065479 >You guys are no better than commies. You could never understand the virtue of being your own man. You could never understand true individual responsibility. You know you can't be trusted as an individual so obviously you feel the need to push your socialist trash on everyone else. Proof you guys don't even look at what I send. If you're going to debate, you have to look at the proof I post too and not just your own you fucking moron.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497545318 130055675,130065920,2017-06-15 16:50:12,">>130065479 It's not quite socialism as we know it. The economy is market-driven, which is a very smart move, however welfare is extremely dysgenic. You may scoop up shit and fling it at the ceiling, and some of it may stick. Most will, however, fall back down and now you've gone and stunk up the room.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497545412 130055675,130066229,2017-06-15 16:53:03,">>130065479 >no better than communists >you will never understand what it is like to be your own man Jesus Christ. You really have no idea what in the fuck you're talking about.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497545583 130055675,130066283,2017-06-15 16:53:31,">>130065738 Drop the free market bullshit. We have all seen you idiots reject it. I'm tired of the flip flopping, you're either for truly free markets or against it. I don't care if you have token privatization in the Reich. You're too cucked to embrace the responsibility that comes with liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497545611 130055675,130066794,2017-06-15 16:58:04,">>130066283 >you're either for truly free markets or against them You must be like, what, 16?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497545884 130055675,130066832,2017-06-15 16:58:18,How are we today team?,,Anonymous,catochet.gif,2KUGn9I1/10ty6KNvIkcdQ==,MT,,1497545898 130055675,130066867,2017-06-15 16:58:41,">>130065738 That's fair enough, I suppose. Jackson should have established a hereditary monarchy with himself on the throne, that would have made things much easier. Also about the subversiveness bit - Rothbard's last mistake was belief in democracy in the 90s. Sure, political action can go a long way, but ultimately it's a tool of the enemy and not what you're looking for. It wasn't until Hoppe in 2001 buried the democratic sentiment in paleolibertarianism with his book Democracy -- The God That Failed, when we realised that feudalism is actually a very good way to preserve liberty, as opposed to democracy, which leads to communism and uses its premise of equality. However, by then the anti-capitalists like Konkin and leftists like Tucker had a strong presence in the movement, and managed to subvert the Libertarian Party, they've even forsaken Ron Paul and founded neolibertarianism, which is just a way to get liberty-minded people to like poopdick and tranny bathrooms and ultimately, communism. Good thing Hoppe is still liked by many and the Mises institute hasn't fallen to the cucks. See this article - they used the founder of /lrg/'s Mises Pepe, for fuck's sake. mises.org/blog/mises-understood-meme-magic",,Anonymous,,,,,1497545921 130055675,130066888,2017-06-15 16:58:57,">>130066283 You can be for free markets but against senseless exploitation, kike. >>130064706 Watched it, it was bullshit. ""The honor system is what will enforce contracts"" is pretty fucking naive. >>130066794 Brother",,Anonymous,,,,,1497545937 130055675,130067081,2017-06-15 17:01:07,">>130066888 >888 >Hoppe Trips You've already lost.",,Anonymous,hoppe_aesthetic.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,GB,,1497546067 130055675,130067105,2017-06-15 17:01:23,">>130065920 >The economy is market-driven >with state controlled investments That's what comes with ""debt free"" state controlled currency. Whoever makes friends with party officials gets free capital, the rest are screwed. Hardly market driven.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497546083 130055675,130067167,2017-06-15 17:02:06,">>130067081 ""Not an argument.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1497546126 130055675,130067398,2017-06-15 17:04:17,">>130067167 How about an argument then. Who said the honor system will enforce contracts? Force will enforce contracts. Nobody said anything other than that.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497546257 130055675,130067444,2017-06-15 17:04:47,">>130067081 Also, before I forget to make the meme post again (((Friedman)))",,Anonymous,1463107616867.jpg,RvwntriXO3QiwoCEGKsAKw==,,,1497546287 130055675,130067488,2017-06-15 17:05:12,">>130066888 >The honor system is what will enforce contracts >ignoring the guys with guns bit entirely because it doesn't fit your narrow minded preconceived notion of what ancap is supposed to be according to the meme balls",,Anonymous,,,,,1497546312 130055675,130067493,2017-06-15 17:05:14,">>130066794 nice comeback. yes it is that black and white when we talk about an absolute principle. >>130066888 ""sensless exploitation"" is what socialists and totalitarians like you do. kike.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497546314 130055675,130067952,2017-06-15 17:09:45,">>130066888 The honor system is what keeps the military in line, I think it could work for the contracts.",,Anonymous,Snow.png,TzG0ymFgWV8bzczWDRdgKg==,,,1497546585 130055675,130067957,2017-06-15 17:09:48,">>130065920 sorry man, I've been down that path with these people. its mock capitalism. I wanted to like them. Maybe some IRL nazis may have some reason within them but these idiot were born to worship their masters dick.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497546588 130055675,130068025,2017-06-15 17:10:20,"Opinions on intellectual property /lrg/? I know a lot of people get super ass blasted when accused of being pirates, but certainly not everybody in the libertarian mindset feels the same about it. I think it's well important within reason. Maybe not necessarily patents, but software for example.",,Anonymous,1496341803057.jpg,7TTA+9Nqmkq8gJYdo3pdBg==,US,,1497546620 130055675,130068055,2017-06-15 17:10:34,">>130066794 In a sense, this is true. Middle ground approach to freedom is giving people the perception that they can meddle with what others do with their property, so it's just a matter of time before we end up with something that does not even resemble a market anymore, like today.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497546634 130055675,130068329,2017-06-15 17:13:17,">>130067105 Yes, that case could be made as well. Market driven compared to what passes for ""capitalism"" nowadays is what I meant. Of course it can't be a TRULY free market if there's state intervention.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497546797 130055675,130068447,2017-06-15 17:14:15,">>130067957 I try to be as patient and objective as possible, but it's not always easy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497546855 130055675,130068508,2017-06-15 17:14:45,">>130067398 6:45. It doesn't matter if they fuck up with one contract if they are a large organization already, it's literally begging for corruption and exploitation. >>130067488 The whole point is that you don't have to shoot people if it's not private, not that you can't. Anyway, I'm out. You people are too fucking stubborn and don't watch anything I send so I'm not really accomplishing anything.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497546885 130055675,130068727,2017-06-15 17:16:49,">>130068508 >begging for corruption and exploitation. says the guy who wants one man to control the fate of an entire race. Where did that get our people?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497547009 130055675,130068730,2017-06-15 17:16:49,">>130068508 >it's literally begging for corruption and exploitation And the state always serves the people? How naive. >It doesn't matter if they fuck up with one contract if they are a large organization already What's your reasoning for that? Monopolies can't form in a free market. There's always risk of market competition.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497547009 130055675,130068749,2017-06-15 17:17:03,">why is there so much shitposting cos your ""ideology"" is shit and attracts fucktards",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497547023 130055675,130069017,2017-06-15 17:19:17,">>130068508 Everytime they fuck up one contract they lose a bit of their reputation, and since you're talking about them becoming corrupt and not just making a single error then they're going to be fucking up more than just one contract. Not to mention that the contract doesn't do them any good if they fuck it up.",,Anonymous,tired.jpg,zk9IcNMccfZ5V2NOJdWJRw==,,,1497547157 130055675,130069020,2017-06-15 17:19:18,">>130068508 Your entire ideology is based in hopefully picking the right man for the job. You have no virtue, no vison. only praise for a dead man who failed his people in the long run.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497547158 130055675,130069743,2017-06-15 17:25:45,">>130068508 >if they are a large organization already, it's literally begging for corruption and exploitation But of course if we hand over power to a large fascist government where people have no rights all corruption will disappear. >you don't have to shoot people if it's not private And who said they're actually gonna shoot each other? Private companies would likely handle matters much better than governments because they would actually be accountable for their actions. How would a company get any customers after pulling a Waco scenario? >You people are too fucking stubborn Ironic. So tired of closed minded idiots coming to this site with their minds already made up and just trying to troll. If you're gonna be stupid at least be open to ideas.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497547545 130055675,130070143,2017-06-15 17:29:18,">>130055675 >Pinochet >libertarian gr8 b8 s8ed",,Anonymous,,,,,1497547758 130055675,130070381,2017-06-15 17:31:08,">>130070143 >flag opinion discarded.",,Anonymous,1495379381575.png,b+Hvo+TbdTdIY8BftSUcLw==,,,1497547868 130055675,130070500,2017-06-15 17:32:07,">>130070381 >supremacist >libertarian not sure if retarded or retarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1497547927 130055675,130070512,2017-06-15 17:32:12,">I don't want to be told what to do >I liven a small house with a large amount of land >I like to fix it, and build it myself >I live in the middle of nowhere because liberals live in cities >Get off my lawn >I'm not racist but I hate PC culture >My cousin married a Mexican >I live in West Texas >I hate Nazi and Commy scum",,Anonymous,7655c619d40567e980d02d6c2dd8d710.jpg,xN6+8e2RVw9CtqgGa2axaA==,,,1497547932 130055675,130071107,2017-06-15 17:37:17,">>130070500 Whites are naturally supreme, we will dominate absent the state. >>130070512 could do with more racism, 9/10",,Anonymous,,,,,1497548237 130055675,130071364,2017-06-15 17:39:36,">>130070512 >not marrying your cousin before she gets with a Mexican",,Anonymous,Kim Mitchell starts playing.webm,5FozlqpqbLAXuO5bWJYLcA==,,,1497548376 130055675,130071398,2017-06-15 17:39:51,">>130071107 You can't even dominate your women. Your race is one of the smallest on the planet now",,Anonymous,,,,,1497548391 130055675,130071582,2017-06-15 17:41:28,">>130071398 we've always been a small population, but somehow we manage to own most of the planet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497548488 130055675,130072404,2017-06-15 17:48:15,,,Anonymous,ecc.png,SeroVtPZoatjor5C9U4qBw==,,,1497548895 130055675,130072806,2017-06-15 17:51:35,">>130072404 Who the heck is grey and black, and why is he happy that communism is leaving?",,Anonymous,dark.jpg,omRWOi/YTw9cj16cjJgUuw==,,,1497549095 130055675,130073174,2017-06-15 17:54:35,">>130072806 Agorismball, not really an ideology but a strategy. Agorism is pretty gay, being that all the markets not already taken by the state are degenerate, drugs, human traficing and so on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497549275 130120101,130120101,2017-06-16 01:24:46,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >/lrg/ Chatroom d i s c o r d: y3BzZM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Snek > Kek.jpg,J6hmNYWJbrotLj5VlYBjwQ==,,,1497576286 130120101,130120267,2017-06-16 01:26:54,First for /alliance/,,Anonymous,1495578004503.jpg,ulDzOrwQf1zQ+9+unJ6Kfg==,GR,,1497576414 130120101,130120721,2017-06-16 01:32:23,,,Anonymous,1463450240227.png,NQQg+Z8qAGHU+3OZ3fAbPg==,DE,,1497576743 130120101,130120772,2017-06-16 01:32:54,"ANARCHO-CAPITALISM IS A MEME (and a bad one, at that)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497576774 130120101,130121038,2017-06-16 01:36:08,">>130120772 But libertarianism has seen success throughout the world wherever it has been implemented. The same cannot be said for communism. In fact, there is not a single successful example of communism to be found.",,Anonymous,liberty.jpg,TkjCxq3qluZeq3cYMQxEhw==,,,1497576968 130120101,130121079,2017-06-16 01:36:36,">>130120772 I kinda agree. Private property is hierarchical in nature, so the term ""anarchy"", which means without hierarchy, is contradictory to libertarian ideals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497576996 130120101,130123579,2017-06-16 02:09:23,">>130120101 bumping",,Anonymous,1485953105939.jpg,WnHhljWcIZhgLq63GqR1SQ==,,,1497578963 130183394,130183394,2017-06-16 14:07:20,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_lrg.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,GB,,1497622040 130183394,130183546,2017-06-16 14:08:27,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,ancap_waifu_plus.png,Ajj6ZLfFmpDyv10WPhqUaw==,GB,,1497622107 130183394,130183653,2017-06-16 14:09:19,Hail to /lrg/.,,Anonymous,pino2.jpg,9XYAULKNs1oQEYTjADbAmQ==,US,,1497622159 130183394,130183701,2017-06-16 14:09:43,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,weapons_are_the_means_to_liberty.png,eI5O6TirBEeoRBs5ceYQNQ==,GB,,1497622183 130183394,130183719,2017-06-16 14:09:51,">>130183394 >libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1497452355090.jpg,bP9QMJO+VNLOHjSu8LsVYw==,,,1497622191 130183394,130183778,2017-06-16 14:10:26,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,lrg_pixel.png,xP6KIZfw7GvOFt8sUL00Lg==,GB,,1497622226 130183394,130183895,2017-06-16 14:11:21,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,how_to_be_sexy_af.png,+oMOYt/z9Jub+aWYtGFX+Q==,GB,,1497622281 130183394,130183967,2017-06-16 14:11:54,(((Cucktalism))),,Anonymous,Evola.jpg,9H+ecmljLXQu0By9xiJXEA==,,,1497622314 130183394,130183996,2017-06-16 14:12:06,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,shills_of_lrg.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,GB,,1497622326 130183394,130184131,2017-06-16 14:13:16,">>130183967 >>130183719 And what (logically inconsistent) ideology would you two be involved in?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497622396 130183394,130184688,2017-06-16 14:17:49,">>130183967 >Julius ""No Kids"" Evola >Right wing pretty much a bitter old cripple cuck.",,Anonymous,invictus-rac.jpg,XpBTsblV0DEwmMM4Vn7xEQ==,,,1497622669 130183394,130185200,2017-06-16 14:22:18,"Hello, guys. I'm a Classical Liberal who's economically Centrist. I want to kick out all extremist Muslims and close the borders. A-am I welcome?",,Anonymous,Autism #2.jpg,kRJQ6CZt+hA79KRynElDEg==,,,1497622938 130183394,130185413,2017-06-16 14:24:13,">>130185200 >Economically Centrist >Liberal >Flag >Only wants to kick out extremist muslims No. sorry.",,Anonymous,1496048973550s.jpg,OWjsKq1wz69cdgxTNxwQyQ==,,,1497623053 130183394,130185580,2017-06-16 14:25:42,">>130185413 I'd like to have them all gone, but unfortunately they have individual rights too",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623142 130183394,130185651,2017-06-16 14:26:22,">>130185200 Sorry Sargon, you're not cool enough.",,Anonymous,augusto-pinochet-3.jpg,xpa9fY2csFPv4uIXQ2k+xQ==,US,,1497623182 130183394,130185655,2017-06-16 14:26:22,">>130185200 I mean, I gues - >flag Nevermind.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497623182 130183394,130185840,2017-06-16 14:28:15,">>130185580 All muslims want sharia law, if they don't they are muslim in name only. Sharia is incompatible with individual liberty. they are not welcome.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623295 130183394,130185896,2017-06-16 14:28:43,">>130185200 >classical liberal >economically centrist Fuck off",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623323 130183394,130186033,2017-06-16 14:29:56,">>130183394 Is this Judaism general?",,Anonymous,67e6625147dddde9b323d8fa2f217e3ea30b80a98958d6c4110f1066992fd754.jpg,9xXBQHqS32zxfT/x1Knf4A==,,,1497623396 130183394,130186043,2017-06-16 14:30:03,">>130185651 Please, guys.....",,Anonymous,Sargon of akkad angry.png,OPwpHOT8BFcPTuIphVOYPA==,,,1497623403 130183394,130186187,2017-06-16 14:31:23,"Evening lads, hope everyone's having a freedom loving day",,Anonymous,1495938021108.png,voRz/UEnLq9gQm87bocq5g==,GB,,1497623483 130183394,130186224,2017-06-16 14:31:41,">>130186043 >economically centrist >libertarian right No",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623501 130183394,130186388,2017-06-16 14:33:01,">>130185200 You have a chance to repent on your mistakes. Take the gold-and-black pill.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497623581 130183394,130186418,2017-06-16 14:33:15,">>130186033 Here you go mate >>130184118",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497623595 130183394,130186434,2017-06-16 14:33:24,">>130186224 B-but I support individual liberty and private property rights....",,Anonymous,Sad_Anime_girl_crying_2.jpg,Zg/85t0gJ8ACFzyWtsC+Qw==,,,1497623604 130183394,130186531,2017-06-16 14:34:14,">>130186388 I was a Right-wing Libertarian for a while, but I drifted to the Centre economically",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623654 130183394,130186641,2017-06-16 14:35:15,">>130186531 Why?",,Anonymous,austrian_vs_keynasian.jpg,R1hsQxL8kZd6knO1Wh/oog==,GB,,1497623715 130183394,130186732,2017-06-16 14:36:05,">>130186418 heh, I'll admit that was pretty funny.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623765 130183394,130186747,2017-06-16 14:36:10,But whom'st'll've build the roads?,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1497623770 130183394,130186842,2017-06-16 14:36:55,"Reminder to watch this very important video from Mike Maloney and follow the link in the description to get a free digital copy of his great book on investing in Gold and Silver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Oz2R0u4VM Also watch his series ""Hidden Secrets of Money"" if you haven't already, they're are a must watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU&list=PLE88E9ICdipidHkTehs1VbFzgwrq1jkUJ",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623815 130183394,130186848,2017-06-16 14:37:00,"Is anyone else at the point where any anti-libertarian argument sounds absolutely retarded? You can point out how the state is immoral, and they'll respond with: ""muh roads."" Is it even worth arguing from principle, or should we go full retard when arguing with leftists?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623820 130183394,130186872,2017-06-16 14:37:16,">>130186434 No, you don't. You're basically a national socialist without the totalitarian state. If you really supported individual liberty and property rights you'd support economic freedom. Fuck off",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623836 130183394,130186884,2017-06-16 14:37:20,">>130186641 Hayek is my nigger",,Anonymous,,,,,1497623840 130183394,130187228,2017-06-16 14:40:19,,,Anonymous,3.jpg,S23XUyEs24NKzQMxG0tU8Q==,,,1497624019 130183394,130187272,2017-06-16 14:40:40,,,Anonymous,4.jpg,H5l8eFVBmr2T48/Jg4XCbA==,,,1497624040 130183394,130187280,2017-06-16 14:40:47,">>130186848 It's healthy to consider alternative viewpoints and I never immediately dismiss someone else's opinions as ""retarded"". After all, the essence of being a Libertarian is all about individual freedom and liberty - that includes the right of every man to their own views.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624047 130183394,130187285,2017-06-16 14:40:51,">>130186848 I'm too jaded to have an honest conversation with them anymore. Just say whatever is necessary to shut them up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497624051 130183394,130187317,2017-06-16 14:41:06,,,Anonymous,5.png,VtS9KntTdSWdkVnH5Wy6BA==,,,1497624066 130183394,130187391,2017-06-16 14:41:45,">libertarian right general holy shit I heard rumours that 4chan's /pol/ became utter reddit and normie infested garbage but sweet jesus this is just pathetic when did ancap and libcucks become normalised on this board?",,Anonymous,What the fuck.png,CoAphHuZ40woj//+nzi4MQ==,,,1497624105 130183394,130187497,2017-06-16 14:42:39,">>130187317 >>130187272 >>130187228 This is why fascists are cool.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624159 130183394,130187568,2017-06-16 14:43:17,">>130186848 I used to be one of those guys, thought ancap was a meme, took this piss etc. You never know who's lurking and actually listening, mate.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497624197 130183394,130187605,2017-06-16 14:43:38,">>130186641 Because I don't think one extreme either way is the right way to do things. I think free tuition for STEM degrees, unemployment and utility benefits, universal healthcare for those who can't afford the private option, public infrastructure spending, and regulations for food safety and government quality standards, government back-to-work programmes and grants, and social housing for the homeless are all things that can heavily aid the poor and encourage labour participation. On the other hand, I think low taxes across the board are a great idea, and I think we should have mostly deregulated markets.I think we should give tax breaks to landlords to encourage rentals so we don't have to build as much social housing. I think we should encourage health insurance companies to provide free birth control as part of their healthcare plans through tax cuts rather than simply force them by government mandate. Sorry for the long-winded post",,Anonymous,Economics.jpg,JRiaW72lhbUh0IF6T3O3xw==,,,1497624218 130183394,130187626,2017-06-16 14:43:46,"What does /lrg think, is morality objective or subjective?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497624226 130183394,130187686,2017-06-16 14:44:22,">>130187391 The moment they got better arguments than the rest",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497624262 130183394,130187711,2017-06-16 14:44:38,">>130187391 Newfag. Always been libertarians here...",,Anonymous,c3b (1).jpg,ebPInIZUQdj0aA8yxew8BA==,GB,,1497624278 130183394,130187749,2017-06-16 14:44:53,">>130185840 >in name only... Alot of people are religious in name only, fuck face.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497624293 130183394,130187809,2017-06-16 14:45:20,">>130187605 thou shalt not commit logical fallacies",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624320 130183394,130187819,2017-06-16 14:45:25,">>130187391 Thanks for outing yourself as a newfag.",,Anonymous,arab_ball_daughters.png,mhxm6ScRET8Mtm4tAinaJA==,US,,1497624325 130183394,130187855,2017-06-16 14:45:41,">>130187626 Subjective. No one who claims morality is objective ever provides evidence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624341 130183394,130187856,2017-06-16 14:45:43,">>130187391 There has been a strong Libertarian presence on this board since day one. It seems you're the one outing yourself as a newfag, edgy ""fascist"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624343 130183394,130187905,2017-06-16 14:46:07,">>130187809 Explain, nigger",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624367 130183394,130187925,2017-06-16 14:46:19,">>130186747 Brazil planning to build their first one or what?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624379 130183394,130187996,2017-06-16 14:46:50,">>130187228 You didn't include half of the quote to fit you agenda. No better than the kikes you claim to be against, are you? Imagine being so deluded you have to trick yourself into thinking your ideology is somehow correct.",,Anonymous,IMG_0012.jpg,8d30VFFNZRNkZ3VVfLr3+w==,GB,,1497624410 130183394,130188012,2017-06-16 14:47:00,">>130187626 I'm a closet objective fag, natural rights yo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497624420 130183394,130188051,2017-06-16 14:47:23,">>130187749 And?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497624443 130183394,130188200,2017-06-16 14:48:43,">>130187272 Wish the state limited itself to telling you to not litter. >>130187855 I agree, natural law must be based in objective, refutable truths. >>130188012 Alright, let's engage, how do you compatibilize this with right of dissociation?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497624523 130183394,130188229,2017-06-16 14:48:56,">>130187996 Old poll. Also, I was in that thread, it was literally a war between two faggots with botnets. Here's the real poll.",,Anonymous,poll.png,5CfLu2ZRwGL8h6gg7B4yKw==,,,1497624536 130183394,130188276,2017-06-16 14:49:23,">>130187626 Very difficult. Like deontology vs consequentialism, I can think of cases where either might apply. This has been an issue in AI design - you'd better make sure an AGI has a human friendly ethical component, but we haven't been able to find a consistent set of ethics for us...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497624563 130183394,130188284,2017-06-16 14:49:27,">>130187711 This. 2011 had twice as many libertarians and AnCaps.",,Anonymous,1354405968444.png,/SwBc+CcAFbXtOJAh1UmLg==,,,1497624567 130183394,130188334,2017-06-16 14:49:51,">>130183394 >ayn r*nd >crypto kike anti-nationalist no thank youu",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497624591 130183394,130188489,2017-06-16 14:51:17,">>130188229 Are you seriously posting a poll with 27 votes? The poll you're quoting is from a couple of months ago.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497624677 130183394,130188499,2017-06-16 14:51:20,">>130188200 >how do you compatibilize this with right of dissociation Because it doesn't infringe on anyone's negative rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624680 130183394,130188575,2017-06-16 14:52:01,">>130188229 >Libertarian Left Why this meme still exist? You simply can't enforce the suppression of the free market without an authoritarian state.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1497624721 130183394,130188615,2017-06-16 14:52:22,">>130187626 Natural law is objective. >>130187605 What the hell is your pic related to? Also, what you mention - how are you funding this? >>130188334 Agreed. Pic related is better. >>130188229 >Less than 100 votes Once again proof you people are more subversive than kikes.",,Anonymous,based_ancaps.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,GB,,1497624742 130183394,130188709,2017-06-16 14:53:14,">>130188200 I don't see it as an objective right to be involved with someone or their property if they don't want you to. No infringement of rights here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497624794 130183394,130188716,2017-06-16 14:53:16,"What happens to the disabled, the unemployed, and the elderly who didn't save for retirement in the glorious Libertarian utopia?",,Anonymous,Questioning.jpg,rHo0GoqPtsDp/LH7w8xRNA==,,,1497624796 130183394,130188725,2017-06-16 14:53:22,">>130187605 Don't apologise for an explanatory post mate, discussion is welcome here. The issue with anything free, is of course it isn't - someone somewhere is paying, probably via taxes. Isn't it better to remove the tax burden, and let people use the extra wealth in the free market, eg for health insurance etc?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497624802 130183394,130188771,2017-06-16 14:53:54,">>130187711 >>130187856 >muh Ron Paul posting doesn't change the fact that libertarianism was always regarded as an inferior ideology that is heavily influenced by jews (and supportive of civic nationalism) but seriously now when did shit like this happen to this board?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624834 130183394,130188773,2017-06-16 14:53:55,">>130188575 Also, libertarianism is based on private property rights, and the left wants to abolish private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624835 130183394,130188861,2017-06-16 14:54:42,">>130188615 >What is your pic related to Nothing. It's just aesthetic. >How are you funding this Through taxes and a small amount of low interest borrowing, along with cutting the size of government in non-necessary areas to balance the budget",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624882 130183394,130188905,2017-06-16 14:55:03,">>130187855 As an objectivist, I'd say that morality in a person that is able to think is subjective and objective at the same time. If one doesn't know what I mean then it isn't - in his case...",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624903 130183394,130188948,2017-06-16 14:55:28,">>130188489 >>130188575 >>130188615 Sample size is shit but it's still more reliable than a poll between two faggots with warring botnets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497624928 130183394,130189156,2017-06-16 14:57:11,">>130188716 Gutter oil.",,Anonymous,Hyde we're just gonna kill em.jpg,KK1YtIx6PkLG8PYbqzEaRQ==,,,1497625031 130183394,130189242,2017-06-16 14:57:55,">>130188905 How do I into objectivism? I can't read one of that chicks long ass books.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497625075 130183394,130189343,2017-06-16 14:58:47,">>130188716 They can rely on community, church or whatever for limited aid. You know, the traditional and superiour ways of providing aid. In the case this is unavailable, well, they die huh? Really, you'd be a fool not to have invested: mutual aid societies can provide these things at an incredibly cheap price.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497625127 130183394,130189408,2017-06-16 14:59:08,">>130185200 >flag *vomit avalanche* >>130186641 Keynesian economics only works in moderation. In the same vein that too much and too little taxation causes a decrease in the economy, too little welfare and government control results in the situation britain was in circa 1900 whereas too much results in the soviet union where everyone is poor or simply a society where the working citizenry toil to support the lazy. The only answer is facism/natsoc which finds the sweet spot between personal freedoms (nazi guns laws were less restrictive than the weimar's etc) and the degeneracy of an unrestricted society.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497625148 130183394,130189467,2017-06-16 14:59:36,">>130188716 It's not supposed to be a utopia, faggot; however, there would be this thing called ""charity."" Have you heard of it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625176 130183394,130189474,2017-06-16 14:59:41,">>130188716 Their family, friends, community will help them out voluntarily. Like it's been for millennia. Unless they're assholes, then fuck them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625181 130183394,130189666,2017-06-16 15:01:24,">>130188725 There are two problems I see with a totally free market: 1. It leaves anyone who can't afford private essentials such as healthcare and education, as well as the disabled and who need to rely on a fixed income, screwed. Charities are not and never have been enough. I remember my history book in Secondary School a few years ago went into this. And I remember it specifically because it explained how when President Reagan cut funding to social welfare programmes, private charity did not fill in the gap. Not only that, but charity relies on voluntary donations, which means someone on a charitable income might get fluctuation amounts weekly and there may not be able to budget for anything. So that's why I think we need a social safety net. 2. Yes, it would require taxation, but I think taxation currently is far too high in the Western world. For example, I know the UK and Ireland have similar tax rates so I'll use where I live-Ireland-for example. I think the 20% bottom income tax rate could be reduced to 10%, and the top rate could be reduced from 40% to 20%, and you could still provide what I've outlined provided you cut bureaucracy and privatised non-essentials such as transport. Property taxes shouldn't exist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625284 130183394,130189777,2017-06-16 15:02:24,">>130188615 >Natural law is objective. Agree. Natural law imo is a set of moral values that cannot be denied. >>130188709 So even though you believe there's objectivity in moral values, you would not impose it onto others? Or did I miss something?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497625344 130183394,130189781,2017-06-16 15:02:25,">>130188716 do they lack a family? do they lack a community? we only need support such people by government means in our current countries because there is no trust, due to jewish subversion of demographics and culture.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497625345 130183394,130190031,2017-06-16 15:04:40,">>130188771 This is rw libertarianism, all the commie removal, with none of the bootlickery. >kikes Yes, guys like von mises and rothbard were Jewish, but most kikes don't rail against gibs, diversity and affirmative action. Pic related >civic If someone can make their way in ancapistan with voluntary association (ie freedom to discriminate), no welfare, a true level playing field etc, I got no problem with them. Of course who thrives in that environment?",,Anonymous,1486107510992.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1497625480 130183394,130190075,2017-06-16 15:05:01,">>130189666 >President Reagan cut funding to social welfare programmes You need to go back to a time before the welfare state. People used to have actual communities and strong familial bonds. The welfare state destroyed that. Of course people are reluctant to help strangers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625501 130183394,130190098,2017-06-16 15:05:11,">>130188905 How can you have something that's objective and subjective at the same time? Do you mean a minimum standard for morality (e.g. murder, rape and theft are all objectively wrong)?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625511 130183394,130190180,2017-06-16 15:05:49,">Hans Herman Hoppe >Employed by the government but wants to abolish it >No wife or children yet preaches family values Before you say this is ad hominem. There can be lots of parallels to be made with the likes of Karl Marx or even Che Guevara. They preach revolution and people power yet they come from considerable wealth, and they essentially get money because people are stupid enough to listen to them. It's like twitch whores, but ideology in the place of tits. People will buy it up because it's counter culture and cool and guns'n'shiet. But it's easy to see the flaws.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1497625549 130183394,130190199,2017-06-16 15:05:59,">>130189777 >So even though you believe there's objectivity in moral values, you would not impose it onto others? he was talking about the right of dissociation being compatible with natural law.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625559 130183394,130190298,2017-06-16 15:06:54,">>130189666 I realise my spelling is fairly shite here. Sorry, I'm a bit steamed up on drink",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625614 130183394,130190349,2017-06-16 15:07:16,">>130189777 I'm sorry, I don't know what you're getting at. There is no contraction with objective moral values and Libertarian ethics. It's pretty much the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497625636 130183394,130190453,2017-06-16 15:08:15,">>130190098 Think harder.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625695 130183394,130190629,2017-06-16 15:09:51,">>130188948 No it isn't. In fact, there's no evidence at all for 'muh warring botnets!!' - Are you going to argue like a man, or just spam subversive memes? Begone. >>130189408 Seems like a middle ground fallacy to me. Currently those claims are just that - claims, not arguments. And I would certainly counterclaim that less taxation is almost always universally better. >>130189666 Private charity suffers from many regulations that make it less effective. Are you aware of the demise of lodge practice? See http://www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.html if not. Quite frankly, if charity is not enough to support them, I feel they don't deserve the support. Morally, nobody is entitled to anyone else's wealth. Trips checked. >>130189777 Also gonna check those.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497625791 130183394,130190718,2017-06-16 15:10:43,">>130190180 Hoppe isn't exactly rich now. Also, he has a wive. Granted, she's a turk, but still.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625843 130183394,130190774,2017-06-16 15:11:16,">>130190453 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0sBS0K5f4I",,Anonymous,,,,,1497625876 130183394,130190901,2017-06-16 15:12:30,">>130190180 >govt Hoppes a professor at the university of nevada, mate",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497625950 130183394,130190942,2017-06-16 15:12:56,">>130190180 Hoppe has a wife and a child.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497625976 130183394,130191380,2017-06-16 15:16:46,">>130189666 totally free markets are proven to be inferior to slightly restricted ones, see germany's being more prosperous than britain around 1900 despite britain being essentially more wealthy due to britain nearly entirely lacking support for the lower echelons of society. However, it is also partially true what >>130190075 said, but I would add the qualifier that people tend to help each other far less than in cities, where welfare is required to keep large numbers of the working class above the poverty line. >>130190629 the level of taxation that is most effective does tend towards the lesser I fully agree, the only issues that it face today are the wasteful government programs and stupid things like speedbumps and foreign aid. Nazi germany again was a sterling example of effective taxation, not over the top, but enough for the essentials of government support.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497626206 130183394,130191456,2017-06-16 15:17:24,">>130191380 far less *in* cities that should read",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497626244 130183394,130191786,2017-06-16 15:20:17,">>130191380 What services does the government provide that are essential i.e. the free market cannot provide?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497626417 130183394,130191978,2017-06-16 15:22:02,">>130183394 When will you guys admit that you're just trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole?",,Anonymous,libertarian general.png,S5mjUMYGschdrroOKnSOzQ==,US,,1497626522 130183394,130192057,2017-06-16 15:22:38,">>130183394 dumb frogposter",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497626558 130183394,130192162,2017-06-16 15:23:31,">>130188716 They have friends and charities they can turn to. It's like the homeless in America, who eat quite well despite their condition.",,Anonymous,liberty.jpg,TkjCxq3qluZeq3cYMQxEhw==,,,1497626611 130183394,130192227,2017-06-16 15:24:05,">>130191978 In what way?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497626645 130183394,130192253,2017-06-16 15:24:14,">>130191978 Not an argument, faggot. >Hayek >Bastiat >Jews",,Anonymous,NAP_violation.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,GB,,1497626654 130183394,130192375,2017-06-16 15:25:11,">>130188716 They die while starving and in pain, but I don't give a shit cuz I got mine.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497626711 130183394,130192603,2017-06-16 15:26:49,">>130191978 Who care's that they're jews?",,Anonymous,statue.jpg,peOIdnlclxAqnLzZm/ZSpg==,,,1497626809 130183394,130193048,2017-06-16 15:30:33,">>130191978 Bad Jew research. Bastiat and Hayek are not Jews, and you forgot to mark Mises as a Jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497627033 130183394,130193096,2017-06-16 15:31:00,">>130190718 >>130190942 He does have a wife? Can I have pics?",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1497627060 130183394,130193205,2017-06-16 15:31:51,">>130193096 I don't have pics on my phone, look it up. Pretty easy to find.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497627111 130183394,130193265,2017-06-16 15:32:22,">>130191786 it is less that the free market *can* provide them and more that it doesn't (not at a cost the working class can afford), at least historically. 1900 Britain is the examplar of this. People and indeed entire families were often malnourished because they simply had no money, due almost entirely to things like trade slumps or the death of the family's wage earner. Seebohm Rowntree did a study to find out the reasons for poverty, and only about 1% of those below the 'poverty line' were there because they were idle or criminal. Additionally there are the little things that people might not want to spend money on, especially when poor. For example, mere health checkups at schools identified thousands of cases of measles and the like before major symptoms showed. Roads are a bit of a meme here it's true, but in my experience when a road is communally owned, the owners do not band together to pay for its upkeep. I was in a parish council for a while, and I saw that much with my own two eyes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497627142 130183394,130193361,2017-06-16 15:33:26,">>130183394 ANCAP WALLED COMMUNIT WHEN?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497627206 130183394,130193566,2017-06-16 15:35:18,>>130193096,,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,ooe81NwAPCYRpxFsMFvccw==,,,1497627318 130183394,130193627,2017-06-16 15:35:47,Just stopping by to say GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH,,Anonymous,YEE YEE.png,/67otGrSux8H35UBXrALnw==,,,1497627347 130183394,130193648,2017-06-16 15:36:00,">>130193361 Taxation is theft, unless it's for a wall!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497627360 130183394,130193666,2017-06-16 15:36:08,">>130191786 Infrastructure, social safety benefits, housing for the homeless (who have no capital and thus cannot purchase homes or rent, since rent is so high)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497627368 130183394,130193971,2017-06-16 15:38:35,">>130193648 who said we'll be paying for it with taxes?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497627515 130183394,130194009,2017-06-16 15:38:54,">>130193265 Personally I believe in the Austrian school in that historical situations are often very lacklustre in describing economics. >>130193666 Are you 'who will build the roads'-ing me? Welfare is a meme. Checked, your second pair of satanic trips in this thread.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497627534 130183394,130194201,2017-06-16 15:40:35,">>130183394 honestly im interested how would hoppe deal with degeneracy",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1497627635 130183394,130194259,2017-06-16 15:41:02,">>130191786 Possibly electricity and infrastructure, although water has been successfully privatized in Chile so I'm beginning to doubt that they need to be public. Borders are essential though, and not to keep illegal immigrants out, but rather to keep foreign governments from using their immense resources to buy plots of land from ancapistan, thus slowly but permanently enroaching upon the land until it is smaller and smaller.",,Anonymous,gunner.jpg,SR/m1UtuS512MYR+tx6XYA==,,,1497627662 130183394,130194492,2017-06-16 15:42:55,">>130193971 I'm not challenging you, I'm just stating fact.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497627775 130183394,130194596,2017-06-16 15:43:48,">>130194201 Forced exclusion AKA physical removal AKA faggots get off my lawn before I shoot you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497627828 130183394,130194711,2017-06-16 15:44:40,">>130194201 >how would hoppe deal with degeneracy By forming a community that expels degenerates, letting them rot in their filth somewhere else. >>130194259 Borders are completely different in ancapistan. The very concept of 'open borders' is necessarily a statist concept. Private property is discrimination.",,Anonymous,lrg_open_borders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,GB,,1497627880 130183394,130194981,2017-06-16 15:46:54,">>130194009 Kek, it keeps happening. I guess the Kekistani flag is channelling his power. Anyway, no, I'm just saying these are clearly effectively performed by government",,Anonymous,,,,,1497628014 130183394,130195067,2017-06-16 15:47:42,">>130194981 Are you saying our current system is 'effective'? I disagree.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497628062 130183394,130195443,2017-06-16 15:51:08,">>130188229 >comparing a poll of 27 votes to a poll of 4800 Dishonest like a fucking kike",,Anonymous,,,,,1497628268 130183394,130195599,2017-06-16 15:52:33,">>130195067 Not the current system, no. It's too bureaucratic and government still encompasses too much of the economy. I'd ideally like to see regulation rolled back and see transport privatised. Private buses and trains are just as good and often cheaper (although definitely slower in my town)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497628353 130183394,130195648,2017-06-16 15:53:00,">>130195067 Not the current system, no. It's too bureaucratic and government still encompasses too much of the economy. I'd ideally like to see regulation rolled back and see transport privatised. Private buses and trains are just as good and often cheaper (although definitely slower to take off from a bus stop in my town)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497628380 130183394,130195704,2017-06-16 15:53:29,">>130188575 Left libertarians maintain this view that libertarianism means a lack of hierarchies and masters, unlike right libertarians who maintain that libertarianism means self-ownership (from which private property rights follow, of course).",,Anonymous,,,,,1497628409 130183394,130195762,2017-06-16 15:54:09,">>130194009 while historical allegories are not 100% accurate for the modern world, there still is great poverty in Britain due to the failings of the welfare state, but the solution cannot be the abandonment of society's cheapest labourers because all great civilisations are built off of cheap manual labour. Obama was the personification of the modern welfare state, foolish and greedy, not understanding the point of welfare to begin with, he and his voters snubbed the lower classes because they were republican 'hicks', but the solution should not and could not be a return to Herbert Hoover. The libertarian right principle of carefully controlled immigration cannot be sustained if the lower classes are not supported at least in part by the government, as the realities of modern life have stripped away the communities that used to protect them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497628449 130183394,130195877,2017-06-16 15:55:06,">>130194596 >>130194711 no anons i already knew that its just would it work the exclusion of degenerates how would it look like would a city throw out a tranny?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1497628506 130183394,130195940,2017-06-16 15:55:34,">>130193566 Intelligent and qt. She seems very laid-back. Hans is a lucky man",,Anonymous,,,,,1497628534 130183394,130196039,2017-06-16 15:56:34,">>130185840 Theyre completely allowed to have Sharia communities on their own property and you cant do anything about that.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497628594 130183394,130196321,2017-06-16 15:59:03,">>130195877 The same way. most property will have an owner and tenants the owner sets the rules.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497628743 130183394,130196373,2017-06-16 15:59:38,">>130196039 But, by the same token, if they try to enforce Sharia law on the unwilling, such as throwing acid in women's faces or killing those who leave Islam, they have violated the NAP and will be hunted down by private RWDS.",,Anonymous,cock.gif,FuutkSAhGPxlPAvLUtykUw==,,,1497628778 130183394,130196451,2017-06-16 16:00:21,">>130183546 I believe that psychedelic drugs can be used sparingly for psychological betterment and therefore should be legal. Other than that I agree. What does that make me?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497628821 130183394,130196699,2017-06-16 16:02:18,">>130196451 You can form a community full of like-minded people. It will probably end up worse, but y'know.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497628938 130183394,130196826,2017-06-16 16:03:27,">>130196373 >spend £££ on private RWDS >give them all shitty ergonomics: the gun for what purpose",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497629007 130183394,130197373,2017-06-16 16:08:35,">>130196321 yes but wider society would still remain degenerate outside a few sane enclaves were land owners would throw them out would it not? its not that i disagree with Hermann Hoppe i could see his solution work here very easy i live in a small community but what about the whole nation wider society",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1497629315 130183394,130197658,2017-06-16 16:10:56,">>130196826 Maybe warbots work better with the gun?",,Anonymous,gear up.gif,vxT7uRAE8ry4hqNad83Frw==,,,1497629456 130183394,130198376,2017-06-16 16:17:14,">>130197658 The only reason to have less powerful rounds is to manage recoil and to carry more rounds for the same weight. But if you have warbots then you would give them guns with big cartridges because they can handle the recoil far better than a normal human, as well as carrying far more weight.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497629834 130183394,130198595,2017-06-16 16:19:03,>>130195940,,Anonymous,hoppe-sanglasses.jpg,pyEjl74ntmI8Ae7MYd4ZPg==,,,1497629943 130183394,130198647,2017-06-16 16:19:25,">>130198376 I didn't create the gifs, I just use them. If it were me, I'd give them all a M249.",,Anonymous,run.gif,vX1C6dwkCobLVZBmmwlXFA==,,,1497629965 130183394,130198796,2017-06-16 16:20:42,"Replace government tyranny with corporate tyranny, nice",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1497630042 130183394,130198953,2017-06-16 16:22:06,">>130188771 >but seriously now when did shit like this happen to this board? From day one until Trump's nomination when all of the cancer arrived, you utter fucking newfaggot. The election is over--go back or stop shitting up our board.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497630126 130183394,130199419,2017-06-16 16:25:46,">>130196699 Makes sense. We can make a killing treating all the alcoholics and junkies from the other group.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497630346 130183394,130199522,2017-06-16 16:26:41,">>130188771 >doesn't change the fact that libertarianism was always regarded as an inferior ideology Then how to you explain the United States becoming the most envied country on earth with the most inventions and highest living standards? I mean you realize when this happened the federal government was less than 1/10th the size right? There was no EPA, IRS, DEA, FDA, DHS, DOE, etc. The government was so small you could barely see it. In fact when Thomas Jefferson was the president no one in the US paid any taxes whatsoever, the government was funded through import taxes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497630401 130183394,130200447,2017-06-16 16:34:18,">>130197373 I don't think Libertarianism is going to erase degeneracy world wide, I do think property rights dramatically increase social discrimination. The conservatives will have theirs and the degenerates will have their own failing society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497630858 130183394,130201058,2017-06-16 16:39:15,">>130200447 well see i did not mean at world wide i dont care but at the nation level there would still be degenerate enclaves remaining or in worst case sane one while the rest is degenerate proprty rights do allow for discrimination but can work both ways",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1497631155 130183394,130202164,2017-06-16 16:48:29,">>130201058 I don't believe humans are degenerate by nature. Surely there will be aspects of degeneracy that might survive but the root cause of degenercy is state funded leftist propaganda and welfare. If you think people are natural trannies and fags then I don't have an answer that will satisfy you. I am confident that state welfare is the main cause of sick lifestyles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497631709 130183394,130202651,2017-06-16 16:52:40,Bump,,Anonymous,hippity-hoppity-cant-afford-property-16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,GB,,1497631960 130183394,130202905,2017-06-16 16:54:49,">>130202164 most people are degenerate and degenerate behavior does not begin and end with trannies and fags from substance abuse high abortion promiscuous behavior propaganda has its place but i can be effective if people have a natural leaning towards degenerate behavior by nature",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1497632089 130183394,130203662,2017-06-16 17:01:16,">>130187626 Natural law is objective in my opinion.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1497221275276.jpg,dQSzD6uPOL+JvJxP41WI8Q==,PT,,1497632476 130183394,130203685,2017-06-16 17:01:26,">>130202905 I disagree, it is human nature to survive. Everything man does he does for success or profit. The welfare state acts like porn on your brain. You no longer need to better yourself because the state gives the illusion of prosperity. Degeneracy is a product of boredom. Man without a journey or destiny withers into self destruction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497632486 130183394,130203985,2017-06-16 17:03:49,">>130190180 Hoppe has two children. His wife is from Turkey I believe.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497632629 130183394,130204751,2017-06-16 17:10:09,"I'll go ahead and post my FAQ so you newfags don't ask us about welfare for the poor or how to deal with monopolies. FAQ -- Every question you could have about Anarcho-capitalism, answered in one single book. https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/ >Why reactionary libertarianism and not Fascism? Introduction >How would ancaps deal with cultural Marxists and other subversive attitudes? Chapters 4 and 5 >But about what about limited government and constitutions? Chapters 6 and 7 >But what about the poor, the sick and the elderly? Chapter 10 >You guys are globalists and support open borders right? Chapter 13 >Without the state regulating the market, who will stop corporations? Chapters 3 and 9 >Okay, you've convinced me. Now what do we do? Chapters 11, 12, 14 and 15.",,Anonymous,Reactionary+Liberty+front+cover+v12.png,KfpCT/+OV61rob7d4Ir6TQ==,PT,,1497633009 130183394,130204901,2017-06-16 17:11:22,">>130204751 Currently reading it. Cool book.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497633082 130183394,130204963,2017-06-16 17:11:53,">>130203985 >Turkey wtf I hate libertarianism now",,Anonymous,30 minutes into private covenant community & chill and he gives you this look.png,1xr+XN/oTMN3FiOlX5/upA==,,,1497633113 130183394,130205021,2017-06-16 17:12:23,">>130204751 o shit its that portubro. wassap.",,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1497633143 130183394,130205243,2017-06-16 17:14:25,">>130204963 Meme all you want but the place Hoppe lives in (Bodrum) seems comfy as fuck. >>130205021 Wassap my negro.",,Anonymous,1493295814292.jpg,BYzfAIhVqAtRrHwTXuS6vA==,PT,,1497633265 130183394,130205481,2017-06-16 17:16:21,>>130183546,,Anonymous,I HOPE YOU DIE.jpg,vmt3EkVonfE+MXGp9q+Ziw==,GB,,1497633381 130183394,130205510,2017-06-16 17:16:37,">>130183546 >a vetting system Kind of like we have now? Haha yeah so much for being prowhite fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497633397 130183394,130205631,2017-06-16 17:17:41,">>130205481 >>130205510 >samefagging",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497633461 130183394,130205746,2017-06-16 17:18:42,">>130183394 Okay, so realistically ancapistan is never going to be a thing on any nation's land, but seasteading and spacesteading are looking like promising alternatives for the future, so has any progress been made on that front?",,Anonymous,girls2.jpg,4PyJbCn9v6evmff20xtK0g==,,,1497633522 130183394,130205803,2017-06-16 17:19:13,">>130202905 All of those behaviors only increased with state encroachment in the economy and in society. Go read Democracy The God That Failed, Hoppe talks about how the signs of decivilization have accompanied the rise of democracy.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497633553 130183394,130205854,2017-06-16 17:19:32,">>130205631 Do t oh know how ID's work?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497633572 130183394,130206044,2017-06-16 17:21:07,">>130205854 Don't kid me, nobody ever replies to the FAQ so don't expect me to believe that within a minute it got two related replies completely independent of each other.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497633667 130183394,130206110,2017-06-16 17:21:39,"i know video games are degenerate and I'm massively late to the party, but I need to know if this makes sense: >Mr. House: Hoppean Ancap (strict control of one's private property) >NCR: Democrats >Caesar's Legion: Fascists >Yes Man: Radical Centrism >Brotherhood of Steel Mojave Chapter: Neocons >Boomers: Boomers >Followers of the Apocalypse: Ancoms >Great Khans: pure anarchy >Powder Gangers: no idea, just a bunch of criminals thoughts?",,Anonymous,FNV_Mr_House_Screen.png,8hYLUMxMCsfXhOV3EB7XMw==,US,,1497633699 130183394,130206180,2017-06-16 17:22:14,">>130205243 shits good my man. writing a small essay on Left libertarians, their love of public property and Open borders. My last image wasn't explicit enough, Shit-libs keep telling me i'm wrong about immigration and it got my jimmies rustled. I've read every libertarian argument for or against open borders on the internet. I feel confident now that my Open Borders 2.0 will be irrefutable within the frame of property rights and non-aggression. Any libtard who reads this thing will either have to drop open borders or property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497633734 130183394,130206181,2017-06-16 17:22:15,">>130206044 I did because the faq is retarded same with snap shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497633735 130183394,130206421,2017-06-16 17:24:10,">>130205510 ask me about open borders. I dare you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497633850 130183394,130206446,2017-06-16 17:24:22,">>130205746 The Seasteading Institute signed a deal with the French Polynesia to build an autonomous seastead by 2020 or 2022. They recently signed the documents and the government has supported them. They had to prove seasteading helps the continental economy and the marine resources. You should also check out Free Private Cities. Realistically speaking a pure AnCapistan is not possible because all land has been claimed and the level of corruption and degeneration is so big it would be almost impossible for people to collectively realize AnCapism was the right way. We're left with secession, nullification, private government, and a push for the creation of more special economic zones and charter cities. Anything that gives rise to interstate competition is welcome.",,Anonymous,1494374271057.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,PT,,1497633862 130183394,130206648,2017-06-16 17:25:55,">>130206110 Yesman anarcho-centrism. Video games are fine as long as your healthy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497633955 130183394,130206815,2017-06-16 17:27:15,">>130206180 Great! I look forward to reading it. I'm sure it'll be a great smash >>130206110 Correct. And daily reminder that if you chose anyone other than Mr. House you deserve to be left to die on a shallow grave like the Courier. The Power Gang was more of a Mad Max esque band of criminals than anything else.",,Anonymous,1492202322969.png,4YG3giNrNy+D0EJccDL5fg==,PT,,1497634035 130183394,130207055,2017-06-16 17:29:23,">>130205510 You think the U.S. has an extencive vetting system now? hahaha! Maybe that's the reason the U.S. if flooded with sewage.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497634163 130183394,130207290,2017-06-16 17:31:22,">>130207055 we basically have open borders for anyone who isn't european.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497634282 130183394,130207462,2017-06-16 17:32:51,">>130205631 nope Tell me wise sage of Libertarian greed. who prevents the tower block fires in your utopia?",,Anonymous,does the landlord pay the firebrigade fees or the tentants.jpg,Jlo7zOoi42DvzRsG6odVQA==,GB,,1497634371 130183394,130207532,2017-06-16 17:33:27,">>130207290 And that system does not reflect the wishes of real property owners. >In terms of specific immigration restrictions, Hoppe argued that an appropriate policy will require immigrants to the United States to display proficiency in English in addition to ""superior (above-average) intellectual performance and character structure as well as a compatible system of values"".[37] These requirements will, he argued, result in a ""systematic pro-European immigration bias"". Jacob Hornberger of the Future of Freedom Foundation opined that the immigration test Hoppe advocated would probably be prejudiced against Latin American immigrants to the United States.,[38] due to cultural differences between Americans and Latin Americans and the fact that Latin American nations have lower average IQ's than Europeans and European-descended Americans.",,Anonymous,1459645911184.jpg,i31VNL8f6AngYDFNWM0YSg==,PT,,1497634407 130183394,130207718,2017-06-16 17:34:57,">>130207462 if you move into an uninsured and unapproved block you deserve to die",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497634497 130183394,130207722,2017-06-16 17:35:00,">>130190031 Don't spit on fellow travelers m8.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497634500 130183394,130208145,2017-06-16 17:38:27,">>130185580 >Communist, muslim exc. >invidual rights kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1497634707 130183394,130208374,2017-06-16 17:40:36,">>130187317 >not knowing Paris Hilton runs her own company that's worth over a billion dollars Kill yourself my dude",,Anonymous,,,,,1497634836 130183394,130208505,2017-06-16 17:41:40,">>130207532 Lol, butthurt low IQ latin americans. you gotta sauce for that quote?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497634900 130183394,130208513,2017-06-16 17:41:44,">>130207718 >uninsured and unapproved Does insurance stop you dying in a the fire? Approved by who? Face it you are a souless walking meme. The nation would be better if you died.",,Anonymous,grenfell-tower-fire11-0.jpg,Wk1d5sHo1Yp9pEp0WOuTIQ==,GB,,1497634904 130183394,130208687,2017-06-16 17:43:17,">>130208513 Approved by private regulation companies? Don't talk shit to what you know nothing about, kike.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497634997 130183394,130208768,2017-06-16 17:43:56,">>130187605 Most of us believe we need back natural law, and basically no work - no food. You have no fucking right to steal money from my hard work to feed some nigger who's going on a rampage next monday.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635036 130183394,130208795,2017-06-16 17:44:13,">>130207532 Nvm I found it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497635053 130183394,130208879,2017-06-16 17:44:50,">>130187626 Objective and use catholicism as it, is my way. The moment you make morality subjective is the moment your civilization falls appart to someone who's morality isn't subjective.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635090 130183394,130208882,2017-06-16 17:44:53,">>130208513 Not the same guy, but: >Does insurance stop you dying in a the fire? Does government? >Approved by who? Me",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635093 130183394,130208925,2017-06-16 17:45:14,">>130208687 >if you move into an uninsured and unapproved block you deserve to die > Don't talk shit to what you know nothing about, kike. You are the cancer. I know that much.",,Anonymous,which tower is next.jpg,kEf7/JrPm2CyYYYgu/h5pw==,GB,,1497635114 130183394,130209046,2017-06-16 17:46:19,">>130208925 May I ask where you lie politically?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497635179 130183394,130209072,2017-06-16 17:46:30,">>130208513 https://mises.org/library/idea-private-law-society",,Anonymous,1470123041777.jpg,rxyrWHmgrQ4KpJm4BmZUgw==,PT,,1497635190 130183394,130209168,2017-06-16 17:47:19,">>130195443 This.>>130195704 Which is why the left was, is and always will be retarded. >>130188771 >Muh jews argument Yeah a jew who is against the welfare state, against the theft, against monopolies and against everything that lets these subhumans rule us is really a KIKE RIGHT?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635239 130183394,130209375,2017-06-16 17:49:06,">>130208882 Keep shill for less regulation like the rest of your kind. You'll die from it hope. >>130209046 Wherever you're not. I don't believe in buying an ideology and wearing it's badge.",,Anonymous,tombs.jpg,XeqYW0xtrXv/ddarv0T0rw==,GB,,1497635346 130183394,130209386,2017-06-16 17:49:12,">>130205746 When we destroy socialism only ancaps will want to reach the stars. LET'S GO! A NA DRZEWACH ZAMIAST LISCI, BĘDĄ WISIEĆ KOMUNISĆI!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635352 130183394,130209450,2017-06-16 17:49:45,">>130209375 t. spineless cuck",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497635385 130183394,130209472,2017-06-16 17:49:54,">>130208513 The niggers would be beter of if you ruled.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635394 130183394,130209539,2017-06-16 17:50:35,>>130209386,,Anonymous,1442616813914.jpg,BBBKWIMsVEeEJNQ/pm2Yqg==,GB,,1497635435 130183394,130209815,2017-06-16 17:52:50,">>130209450 You want me to chose a label? This is closest. >>130209472 Everyone would be worse off if you ruled.",,Anonymous,inside the tomb.jpg,Mtr8DJEHquNt+ZPB9s2Wsw==,,,1497635570 130183394,130210036,2017-06-16 17:54:24,">>130209815 Hard working people would be much better off if I ruled, not my problem you're a filthy degenerate sucking on the goverment's tit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635664 130183394,130210039,2017-06-16 17:54:25,">>130209375 >less regulation I would- and will not move to- or buy anything not inspected by me or someone whos knowledge and intelligence I trust. No regulations needed there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635665 130183394,130210056,2017-06-16 17:54:32,">>130207462 >>130208513 Well considering that the sprinkler system wasn't installed because of government incompetence the fire might never have happened if it was privately owned.",,Anonymous,gtfo.gif,H9G3yfEoa7eSVgaoj1JKLg==,,,1497635672 130183394,130210061,2017-06-16 17:54:35,"AN CAP TRAP HAREMS WHEN?!?! > SATURDAY'S FOR NOT-SO-GAYS",,Anonymous,mujeres-trans-en-per-735x400.jpg,gAs2XDdd5XdwqXut+azjjA==,,,1497635675 130183394,130210068,2017-06-16 17:54:40,">>130209168 Heres your paste response to muh jews if you wanna shut them up. >Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places.",,Anonymous,GOYs.png,A+U0uc+5K8sDTutQZm9GLw==,US,,1497635680 130183394,130210282,2017-06-16 17:56:27,">>130210068 Thanks man.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635787 130183394,130210301,2017-06-16 17:56:39,Hey guys what would trans and lgbt rights look like in an AnCap Society? :v),,Anonymous,,,,,1497635799 130183394,130210377,2017-06-16 17:57:15,">>130210061 Get the fuck out of here. No one wants part of your trash you left-libertarian scum. You represent us in disastrously distasteful ways. Stop jacking off to trannies, pick up a fucking book and sort yourself out.",,Anonymous,1494199996985.jpg,5JCNG+rCtM+B1/iHTRok7w==,US,,1497635835 130183394,130210393,2017-06-16 17:57:20,">>130210068 >We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do Natsoc don't challenge anything, but help their cause really",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635840 130183394,130210454,2017-06-16 17:57:49,">>130210301 There'd be societies where these degenerates hide, and then there'd be where I live.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635869 130183394,130210528,2017-06-16 17:58:20,">>130210393 How do they help them, other than giving them a victim card?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635900 130183394,130210591,2017-06-16 17:58:49,">>130210301 Theres no such thing as tranny rights. We only believe in property rights. All civil rights garbage is exactly that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497635929 130183394,130210703,2017-06-16 17:59:39,">>130210301 >>130210454 I wouldn't know, cuz I'd never see or hear anything about them. Pretty sure there would not be many at all.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497635979 130183394,130210763,2017-06-16 18:00:09,">>130210061 Fuck ""muh degeneracy"" meme, i'm in. >>130210301 Same as everyone. They can parade all fucking day, if property owner agrees. Same for you tho.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636009 130183394,130210832,2017-06-16 18:00:41,"Which country is worse, China or Germany?",,Anonymous,1497366165463.gif,99jrEu1Lr+oa3VIYw1h+Ig==,,,1497636041 130183394,130210941,2017-06-16 18:01:46,">>130210528 >other than But that is their biggest thing since the 1930s or even sooner.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636106 130183394,130210982,2017-06-16 18:02:06,">>130210832 Germany. As long as China remains free-market, it will be unquestionably the wealthies country to live in in a few decades.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636126 130183394,130211016,2017-06-16 18:02:23,">>130210036 >>130210039 >>130210056 It's always government you blame when things go wrong. You live in a fantasy world where it is never the greed of contractors building with unsafe materials This fire would have been contained and put out if a flammable cladding hadn't need installed. Cling to you ideology, hell is your destination in this life or the next.",,Anonymous,download (2).jpg,+KS8dWKDVrEQLykLz25ESg==,,,1497636143 130183394,130211066,2017-06-16 18:02:48,">>130210763 in the fucking trash with you too. you make make me sick.",,Anonymous,misc (9).png,tr1x+FeahS7m1fth08IJrg==,US,,1497636168 130183394,130211120,2017-06-16 18:03:13,">>130210832 China. They regulate fucking child births and are corrupted af. They are more corrupted then Russia, and i'm Russian.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1497636193 130183394,130211142,2017-06-16 18:03:20,">>130210068 >GAS THE STATE The things we are going to need to do require state power dumbass. Holy shit you retards lack the most basic critical thinking. If you end the fed it won't matter because capitalism is just another soulless materialistic Judaic construct. The whole point of anarchism is a world where the state can't kick Jews out of their countries. You retards are just dupes, useful idiots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497636200 130183394,130211267,2017-06-16 18:04:22,">>130211016 >government decides not to put fire safety systems in their building >fire kills 30 people IT'S THE CORPORATIONS! Pretty sure commies like you are the ones going to hell, bub.",,Anonymous,tired.jpg,zk9IcNMccfZ5V2NOJdWJRw==,,,1497636262 130183394,130211313,2017-06-16 18:04:46,">>130210301 They do what they want, as long as they don't do it in the street and scare the horses. Except in a covenant that excludes them, pic related",,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1497636286 130183394,130211341,2017-06-16 18:04:58,">>130211016 Not an argument because you misrepresented my position. When a terrorist blows up I don't blame the goverment, I blame the goverment for letting this fuck in beforehand exc. >>130211142 >bunch of adhominems, no meritorical arguments",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636298 130183394,130211391,2017-06-16 18:05:23,">>130211142 >The whole point of anarchism is a world where the state can't kick Jews out of their countries. >their countries thats right, they can go fuck up their land, not mine. idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497636323 130183394,130211393,2017-06-16 18:05:24,">>130210301 All of those ""rights"" are positive rights and therefore not rights at all. Those rights you speak of always entail coercion on property owners (compulsory gender neutral bathrooms, compulsory surgeries, compulsory inclusiveness, compulsive weddings). We believe in property rights and negative rights. Traps would have to shut the fuck up and be productive members of society just like the rest and not be a pain in the ass for the rest of us.",,Anonymous,1477156358775.jpg,2LG2UiemUk3ox5KN0stwVQ==,PT,,1497636324 130183394,130211437,2017-06-16 18:05:49,im happy this society will be free of hate thank you for replying,,Anonymous,1466894801552-1.jpg,MnFoQzQMsF6vQxvZOrj6mQ==,,,1497636349 130183394,130211444,2017-06-16 18:05:52,">>130211066 Hehe, you're just like SJWs with their ""muh feelings"" attidute. Can't handle freedom?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636352 130183394,130211495,2017-06-16 18:06:22,">>130211016 >It's always government you blame But I don't blame anyone. I don't care if some idiots burn in their shitty apartments,desu. >>130208882",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636382 130183394,130211587,2017-06-16 18:07:13,">>130210982 Germany's 26th in economic freedom, China is 111th. If China would just adopt the same policies they set for Hong Kong they would outpace the USA in a heartbeat, but the communist government is so stuck in their old ways clinging to power so they continue to leave the nation a craphole of corruption.",,Anonymous,senpai.jpg,GyKnW0aPg01rgzCO6hLrtw==,,,1497636433 130183394,130211674,2017-06-16 18:07:54,">>130183394 Why is Anarchyball banned? He seems like a reasonable enough guy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636474 130183394,130211725,2017-06-16 18:08:25,fuckin' rubes,,Anonymous,RIGGEDIT.jpg,La2OZBmw73Bhl1g0CzWV3A==,,,1497636505 130183394,130211749,2017-06-16 18:08:41,">>130211674 I think he's a bit.... *whispers* left wing .",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636521 130183394,130211758,2017-06-16 18:08:46,">>130211267 No my friend, hell is for the heartless.",,Anonymous,martyrs to the market.jpg,ZOoJi+xFfpbNJmUFpik/yw==,,,1497636526 130183394,130211831,2017-06-16 18:09:35,">>130211758 Like the government responsible for the fire that killed 30 people? And all the people who support that government?",,Anonymous,drop.jpg,sHpB9RpDXTnd2Sy1hUL1Iw==,,,1497636575 130183394,130211833,2017-06-16 18:09:36,">>130211437 Kek I'm not sure about that you communist. The politicization of transsexuals and other deviants is one way the state manages to dilute the family structure so as to better isolate individuals and expropriate them. In my covenant deviants would be systematically repudiated and there would be far more hate and prejudice against these modernist lifestyles.",,Anonymous,1483812631234.jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,PT,,1497636576 130183394,130211863,2017-06-16 18:09:52,">>130211674 Because anarchyball is reddit tier self affirming circlejerk shit",,Anonymous,1420916796775.jpg,3SNpLBpEQL1Ghmdj04QF2g==,,,1497636592 130183394,130211866,2017-06-16 18:09:54,">>130211758 Did you even read what he posted? IT'S THE FUCKING GOVERMENT WHO PUT THOSE REGULATIONS IN PLACE!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636594 130183394,130212097,2017-06-16 18:10:57,>>130183719,,Anonymous,1490904745016.gif,O3oKf189AXYGOeLyl8Bl7A==,,,1497636657 130183394,130212334,2017-06-16 18:12:01,">>130211866 And all the while your kind are shilling for even less. Disgusting.",,Anonymous,i hope you die in fire.jpg,NU2YROSDk4Lumi5uaqGH5A==,,,1497636721 130183394,130212384,2017-06-16 18:12:30,">>130211444 Is it possible that most of us here don't want our political position associated with mental illness, crossdressing, pornography and genital mutilation? You people are pure trash. All you needed to hear was ""people won't bash my skull in for being a faggot"" and you join in. What have you actually read? what have you actually contributed? NOTHING. You're a fucking larper that's only purpose is to deface a perfect philosophy . You're fucking trash, you'll never own property without the state, no one will tolerate your faggorty without anyone to stop discrimination. you'll end up in the fucking gutter like you belong.",,Anonymous,Tucker.png,G3ntbYA6wn77pdLZEi56hw==,US,,1497636750 130183394,130212422,2017-06-16 18:12:48,">>130211866 Either he's trolling us, or he just doesn't want to admit all the suffering the government has caused to their people by this point.",,Anonymous,sad.png,/RO6LnKVeEAnTrSA6wFvhw==,,,1497636768 130183394,130212444,2017-06-16 18:13:03,">>130211833 I'm a Strasserist interested in Dugin's National Bolshlevism. I got a strong respect for Lower-Right ideologies for their emphasis on social darwinism",,Anonymous,test.png,v4pV3RTguYNF3ZhKZdK5/g==,,,1497636783 130183394,130212541,2017-06-16 18:13:50,">>130212334 So you would support a law that mandated the killing all children in the UK?",,Anonymous,helo.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,,,1497636830 130183394,130212561,2017-06-16 18:14:04,">>130212422 Yeah it's pretty obvious to men now. That's why we always win arguments IRL, nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, just facts, logic, and empirical evidence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497636844 130183394,130212616,2017-06-16 18:14:33,">>130212444 >interested in Dugin's National Bolshlevism. Your hate non-slavic whites ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1497636873 130183394,130212630,2017-06-16 18:14:41,">>130212384 >You're fucking trash, you'll never own property without the state, no one will tolerate your faggorty without anyone to stop discrimination. you'll end up in the fucking gutter like you belong. Finally someone speaks some sense. Jesus fucking Christ the whole point of calling these generals RIGHT libertarianism is to weed out those LGBT faggot lovers. Keep that shit to yourselves yuck.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497636881 130183394,130212737,2017-06-16 18:15:31,">>130184131 >logical consistent >he doesn't know societal models evolve organically >he doesn't realize he's falling prey to the exact same mistake commies make",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497636931 130183394,130212856,2017-06-16 18:16:32,">>130186641 my god, the 50s memes are coming back to life",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497636992 130183394,130212873,2017-06-16 18:16:41,">>130183394 You are sociopaths, any such disregard for shared humanity could only be described as so. ...or follow impractical, unworkable ideologies. Paper fantasies.",,Anonymous,anprims.png,zrcnpZIOXbuR1J1Ba+66hA==,GB,,1497637001 130183394,130212880,2017-06-16 18:16:43,">>130212334 Can't you people make any decitions without some magically all-knowing entity called ""government""? How do you wake up in the morning without big-brother to tell you and hold your hand?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637003 130183394,130212882,2017-06-16 18:16:43,">>130212384 >don't want our political position associated with But fuck the poor, let them die in a fire, right? >>130212541 Is this the mental illness he refers to. What makes you imagine that I would?",,Anonymous,light a candle.jpg,K9/0NGb/rZWNpr7mzTd0uQ==,,,1497637003 130183394,130212939,2017-06-16 18:17:19,">>130211758 >hell is for the heartless. that explains german concentration camps.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497637039 130183394,130212963,2017-06-16 18:17:31,">>130212873 Sorry you're so pathetic you need to leech of the successful.",,Anonymous,social_fabric.jpg,QzBfxgvgNlsyho8nG1hNrQ==,GB,,1497637051 130183394,130213076,2017-06-16 18:18:30,">>130192253 tbqh, you guys are the ones arguing against the status quo, the burden is on you",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637110 130183394,130213096,2017-06-16 18:18:46,">>130212882 >But fuck the poor, let them die in a fire, right? damn right. serves you poorfags right for not contributing anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497637126 130183394,130213115,2017-06-16 18:18:52,">>130183394 Also french guy here",,Anonymous,image.jpg,7niZsErtTnsPCFFvDSdxhg==,,,1497637132 130183394,130213141,2017-06-16 18:19:06,"So here's an interesting read: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/mar/26/what-most-private-city-world >It is notoriously difficult to quantify and map the privatisation of space and place. Dubai, which must lay claim to being one of the most privatised cities in the world, is defined by its newness – and it is this newness which is generally an indicator of how private a place is likely to be. This is because today’s dominant economic model is reflected by high-security, privatised plazas which house shopping areas, conference centres and luxury apartments in an environment less reminiscent of the public realm than an airport lounge. >In City of Quartz, his seminal 1990s study of Los Angeles, Mike Davis painted a dystopian picture of a high-security city: privatised enclaves and gated developments policed by armed guards. Such gated communities flourish in particularly polarised, segregated societies such as LA, which is one of the most ethnically and socially divided cities in the US. (Nothing wrong with segregation imo) >Gating, like all aspects of privatisation, is difficult to map. The American Housing Survey estimated that almost 11 million Americans live in gated communities, a figure many believe is much higher. Most gated communities are found in the sun-belt states: California, Florida and Texas. >A number of these communities in the US have incorporated as separate entities, entirely independent from local government, meaning that they do not pay taxes and that all services, from rubbish collection to policing, are privately provided.",,Anonymous,1495576544493.png,aX49el4Vl4itokoEAZIhww==,PT,,1497637146 130183394,130213164,2017-06-16 18:19:20,">>130194711 >my son is a degenerate >community wants my son out >like a good cuck I either expel my son or my whole family is expelled >ancap is great and not autistic",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637160 130183394,130213176,2017-06-16 18:19:24,">>130212384 >>130212630 >triggered >insults instead of arguments kek You remind me of Russian conservatives. They are too all against ""degeneracy"", but they are also against economic regulation and shit. Conservative =/= Economic success, nobody cares about ""faggotry"" if you are skilled, get over it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637164 130183394,130213205,2017-06-16 18:19:32,">>130212616 nah, I'm just interested like I said. Eurasianism on an ethnic level would never work, but Cultural Eurasianism is a different story.",,Anonymous,1490706803320.jpg,5Qq0nU3DzghdepaeBjZhGA==,,,1497637172 130183394,130213223,2017-06-16 18:19:42,">>130213141 Archive please https://archive.is/8ylfv",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1497637182 130183394,130213247,2017-06-16 18:19:54,">>130212882 >What makes you imagine that I would? Well, who cares what YOU want? If majority- (or whatever ""is"" the government) would do it, it would be ok for you? Government and laws and regulations ARE always good for you, ey?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637194 130183394,130213300,2017-06-16 18:20:22,">>130212880 >>130212963 >>130212939 >>130213096 >>130213247 I hope your ideology leads you to death.",,Anonymous,needless dangerous 'upgrade'.jpg,njRJ99FaVh/pafAUr5wAVA==,,,1497637222 130183394,130213301,2017-06-16 18:20:22,">>130203662 >reminder that libertarian meme ideology is based on a distortion of natural law, coming from Locke",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637222 130183394,130213334,2017-06-16 18:20:43,">>130213164 Shitty community you got bro, if they expel someone for actions he did not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637243 130183394,130213336,2017-06-16 18:20:44,">>130213223 Thank you Danish bot bro.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637244 130183394,130213347,2017-06-16 18:20:48,">>130212882 >What makes you imagine that I would? You support more government control regardless of the fact that it was the government's involvement that got all those people killed in the fire in the first place, ergo you want more government control with no regard to the lives of all the people who suffer under it. You are not worthy of your flag. Even Thomas Aquinas supported the killing of tyrants such as yourself.",,Anonymous,shield man.jpg,ekfDXwXuFcstOnh/uqW+oA==,,,1497637248 130183394,130213498,2017-06-16 18:21:59,">>130213301 >it's a Portuguese integralist comes to lecture us about organic society episode",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637319 130183394,130213506,2017-06-16 18:22:04,">>130213223 35 seconds. Your getting slow archivebro...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497637324 130183394,130213515,2017-06-16 18:22:09,">>130213164 Just move to a different community, or why did you move to that community in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637329 130183394,130213518,2017-06-16 18:22:10,">>130213300 Why do you keep posting examples of something that happened under your shitty system as a problem with ours?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497637330 130183394,130213538,2017-06-16 18:22:22,">>130213347 >tyrants Fuck, you are a lying piece of filth.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497637342 130183394,130213541,2017-06-16 18:22:22,">>130187317 Tesla wasn't very bright if he couldn't bring his inventions to market, or hire someone to do so, eh? The guy was mentally ill btw, read a book commie faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637342 130183394,130213561,2017-06-16 18:22:34,">>130213334 Then you cannot guarantee a degeneracy free community, m8.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637354 130183394,130213649,2017-06-16 18:23:22,">>130213164 or you move to a better community. the only autism here is willingly staying in communities you don't like just to bitch about it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497637402 130183394,130213681,2017-06-16 18:23:39,">>130213300 you can only look at surface levels of the ideology that is why you get butthurt",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637419 130183394,130213687,2017-06-16 18:23:41,">>130213515 >I can predict every possibility in the first agreement >I have no control over my son >I am deported from my own home because of my son Really makes me think",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637421 130183394,130213711,2017-06-16 18:23:53,">>130213164 >>my son is a degenerate If you don't agree removing your AIDS filled son from the community you don't deserve to breed",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637433 130183394,130213786,2017-06-16 18:24:41,">>130213687 The society cannot impose any rules on you if they haven't presented those rules to you first. Stop acting like you're a DINDU NUFFIN victim.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637481 130183394,130213795,2017-06-16 18:24:47,">>130213176 What have you read? What have you contributed? Nevermind. Fuck off faggot, there is no purpose in me trying to wake someone up so far below me. you're scum. If you act like a fucking nigger your future will reflect that.",,Anonymous,Madman.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,US,,1497637487 130183394,130213855,2017-06-16 18:25:17,">>130213649 I hope you say that to the mexicans invading your town. ""Oh, don't worry, I will just leave"". Dear God. This ""just move"" bullshit is being deported. This is a big deal to most people.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637517 130183394,130213897,2017-06-16 18:25:38,">>130213300 >I want people to be free and successful as they can be and as they have potential >You want people to be told what to do every second of their life, and hope me to die Talkingbout mental illnesses..",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637538 130183394,130213956,2017-06-16 18:26:11,">>130213711 You guys are obsessed with control lol and you actually think you have it. No wonder you are lolbertarians.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637571 130183394,130213989,2017-06-16 18:26:29,">>130213176 Keep your AIDS,your child sex slaves and your suicidal thoughts far from this thread sodomite",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637589 130183394,130214012,2017-06-16 18:26:39,">>130183394 t. Libertarian roastie",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637599 130183394,130214029,2017-06-16 18:26:46,">>130213176 >>130213076 Here's a few arguments.",,Anonymous,file.png,QFMlodIPyxKLhmTQ9IgLGQ==,GB,,1497637606 130183394,130214034,2017-06-16 18:26:50,">>130213561 degenerates are without welfare and other public assistance, they are isolated and openly discriminated in public and from employment. The long-term is extremely anti-degenerate, it's just not as exciting as gassing them all in one go Ancap IS eugenics >>130213687 >I have no control over my son except he's your son. Stop being a shitty parent and take responsibility or take your degeneracy elsewhere >>130213855 >implying mexicans are allowed in the private town in the first place retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497637610 130183394,130214069,2017-06-16 18:27:08,">>130213855 If you were there first why should you leave and not the Mexicans be expelled? Haven't you read Hoppe or Rothbard on immigration and property rights? Clearly your knowledge of anarcho capitalism is very limited. So kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637628 130183394,130214146,2017-06-16 18:27:50,">>130214012 manchild detected",,Anonymous,__mika_drawn_by_senaya_eru__222155c844b04e0e5f40aacdabb65d05.jpg,tPmfZ7lVTKnAVnnggFcfoA==,,,1497637670 130183394,130214182,2017-06-16 18:28:08,">>130213141 wow thats pretty cool stuff, its even got ethnic voluntary ethnic segregation. imma save that article for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497637688 130183394,130214246,2017-06-16 18:28:45,">>130213855 If you read the hoppe quote, it's specifically about 'habitually promoting' degeneracy within the context of a family centred covenant. Not just being a faggot - actively promoting faggotry >>130211313",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497637725 130183394,130214259,2017-06-16 18:28:51,">>130213956 Well,ancapistan or not If I had a degenrate child I would kick him out and unherit him. What's your point on control ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637731 130183394,130214280,2017-06-16 18:29:03,">>130213561 What community? Am I forced to be a part of some degenerate community? Not very ancap then?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637743 130183394,130214303,2017-06-16 18:29:12,">>130213518 Because I see so called libertarians constant claiming that regulations are the problem and what we need is less. If you had your way, when things like this happen they will always be this bad. >>130213897 >>130213681 You can die too. All you meme flag cowards talk big twist my positistion and lie abort yours.. I would relish the chance to deliver the sort dog eat dog ""justice"" you seem to love.",,Anonymous,London-Fire-Grenfell-Tower-Police-Investigation-Homicide-Matt-Bonner-Inferno-Death-Toll-622631.jpg,IyHvwrQaxVQME5Me7STlkQ==,GB,,1497637752 130183394,130214321,2017-06-16 18:29:25,">>130213795 Oh boy. I have read a shitload, from Adam Smith to Mises to Friedman. And I evade taxes, unlike you, taxcuck.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637765 130183394,130214338,2017-06-16 18:29:34,">>130213786 And this is where the ancap ideology falls apart. All contracts and agreements are written to be revised/negotiated later, because it's literally impossible for all possibilities to be accounted for.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637774 130183394,130214381,2017-06-16 18:29:52,">>130213538 Whatever helps you sleep at night. Just know that sooner or later God will cut you down.",,Anonymous,girls3.jpg,gYSvvpKYi2cibNO2S0Y7VQ==,,,1497637792 130183394,130214495,2017-06-16 18:30:54,">>130214321 You owe. Tell me why I don't take a pound of flesh. >>130214381 Don't talk to be about God. You have no God.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637854 130183394,130214562,2017-06-16 18:31:29,">>130214029 Ok, let me grab the title of all articles from top economics publications and show them to you. That's my argument. I win because I have more pages. seriously lol",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497637889 130183394,130214662,2017-06-16 18:32:20,">>130214303 >dog eat dog ""justice"" you seem to love. What do you even mean by that? Justice is justice, and should be based on reason, not your fee-fees.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637940 130183394,130214667,2017-06-16 18:32:24,">>130214338 What the fuck are you talking about? If you wrote your name under something that says ""I *name* agree to anything this society says, for example removing of anything WE SAY is degenerate"" then your son would deserve to be removed. You cannot be forced into shitty deals, if you written your name under a shitty deal, it's because you're a shitty father.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497637944 130183394,130214713,2017-06-16 18:32:45,">>130214495 >You have no God. Now you're speaking blasphemies. You're with the Devil, aren't you?",,Anonymous,redskull.gif,AA5sg4TqUPtkS5l084WjIg==,,,1497637965 130183394,130214739,2017-06-16 18:32:57,">>130214321 get fucked. why don't you take a break for more pornography and self-loathing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497637977 130183394,130214754,2017-06-16 18:33:06,">>130214495 I'm in fucking Russia mate, how I owe you. Nice Shakespeare reference tho. Taxes here go for Putin's friends mansions anyway.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1497637986 130183394,130214774,2017-06-16 18:33:13,">>130214303 This is an example of government regulations (and government in general) being inefficient. It is not an example of private regulations failing. Imagine if a private company caused a tragedy of this scale, they'd be done for good. But instead it was caused by the government, who will get off free. Of course, none of this is going to convince you, because you're a mentally ill leftist. Your entire ""argument"" has been blaming us for something completely unrelated. That's literally all it has been, because you know nothing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497637993 130183394,130214877,2017-06-16 18:34:10,">>130214034 >implying mexicans are allowed in the private town in the first place No, your excuse is ""oh, you don't like your community? Just move!"" like it's no big deal. It's not. This is where your autism starts showing. >Stop being a shitty parent and take responsibility or take your degeneracy elsewhere Again, you assume way too much control. >Ancap IS eugenics You don't even need ancap for it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638050 130183394,130214910,2017-06-16 18:34:26,">>130214739 Cause I laugh at your powerless anger.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638066 130183394,130214942,2017-06-16 18:34:40,">>130214562 Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you don't read about the ideology at all. I understand that you literally don't care about actual policy, your worldview is based on feelings. But that's not my fault.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497638080 130183394,130214971,2017-06-16 18:34:53,">>130214069 You are being dense. I'm saying the ""just move"" cop out is dumb.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638093 130183394,130215008,2017-06-16 18:35:11,">>130214259 >Autism",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638111 130183394,130215026,2017-06-16 18:35:20,">>130214303 >If you had your way, when things like this happen they will always be this bad. People will always suffer from their stupidity, yes. But doing it my way, they would learn. (well not the most retarded, maybe) Why not be responsible of yourself?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638120 130183394,130215096,2017-06-16 18:35:54,">>130214280 You are forced to deal with coming generations. Unless you are assuming the kids will be carbon copies of their parents, you need to deal with them in some way.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638154 130183394,130215153,2017-06-16 18:36:26,">>130214667 hahahaha",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638186 130183394,130215179,2017-06-16 18:36:40,">>130214754 Eto nye patamushta putin nenavidit pidorasaf Chto ti doljen sossat im huy bliat Ti mojesh VITCH polutchit kozel",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638200 130183394,130215219,2017-06-16 18:37:02,">>130214910 cringe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497638222 130183394,130215273,2017-06-16 18:37:27,">>130214910 Good luck with that trainwreck of a life you're leading.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497638247 130183394,130215306,2017-06-16 18:37:45,">>130215153 What are you laughing at? I'm simply amazed at how stupid you can be.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638265 130183394,130215316,2017-06-16 18:37:48,/lrg/ is comfy. Thanks for all the reading material and social media references. I'm ancap-leaning but need to be better versed and more active. Fight the good fight bros. Never give up and never surrender to collectivist coercion.,,Anonymous,tmp_28030-1497456310442-152065442.jpg,LP9y+l+cIQXFhtfmt9mcIQ==,,,1497638268 130183394,130215367,2017-06-16 18:38:09,">>130215008 Any conservative father from sixties was autistic back then ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638289 130183394,130215394,2017-06-16 18:38:20,">>130214942 Who told you I didn't read on it? Why are you assuming everyone who drinks the poison will be poisoned? >your worldview is based on feelings well, this is not even wrong, as the reason vs feelings dichotomy is bullshit",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638300 130183394,130215400,2017-06-16 18:38:22,">>130215316 The tree of liberty needs watering again!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638302 130183394,130215410,2017-06-16 18:38:24,">>130214713 God is not with you. >>130214754 Then you have my apologies but technically you are part of the problem.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638304 130183394,130215442,2017-06-16 18:38:43,">>130215316 haha god bless you motherfucker.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497638323 130183394,130215530,2017-06-16 18:39:29,">>130215394 Well, did you read them? Have a refutal to the arguments in any of those books? Sure haven't shown any. Getting defensive?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497638369 130183394,130215559,2017-06-16 18:39:43,">>130215367 >implying all fathers kicked their children out their homes >implying the ones who did it framed it in a vengeful way like you did",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638383 130183394,130215567,2017-06-16 18:39:49,">>130215410 More blasphemy. You're definitely in line with Satan.",,Anonymous,fairy's.jpg,0zEDwirMmbIVuen+Xxl9Xw==,,,1497638389 130183394,130215669,2017-06-16 18:40:35,">>130211066 >>130210377 >GTFO degenerate, remove :D >b-but my NAP >HODIO-BROMEO, DA FUCK OUT OF MY SERAGLIO",,Anonymous,343725_10.jpg,KzkKuWsq3X3Q1Xg9SVdw2w==,,,1497638435 130183394,130215686,2017-06-16 18:40:45,">>130215306 I can say the same. You are completely clueless. Have you even ever signed a contract in your life?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638445 130183394,130215766,2017-06-16 18:41:23,">>130215686 Of course I did, many, and it always said about what I was about to contract to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638483 130183394,130215855,2017-06-16 18:42:09,">>130215096 You really think kids have just randomly started to be faggots? With no reason outside them whatsoever? Hm? Now next - think about a community I'd live on ( and do right now, in a way) Do you think I'd possibly be forced to interact with people I don't like? Seems the example is too complicated for you to understand it from a wider view.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638529 130183394,130215928,2017-06-16 18:42:41,">>130215530 Dear God. You sure frame it in such a way.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638561 130183394,130215962,2017-06-16 18:42:55,">>130215179 Nu nihuya sebye, ktoto zdes govorit po russki. >>130215410 I just see that my taxes go to shit and don't see any point in paying them. And only way to prevent taxes going to shit is abolishing taxes, cause power corrupts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638575 130183394,130215996,2017-06-16 18:43:12,">>130215928 Answer the question.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497638592 130183394,130216087,2017-06-16 18:44:01,">>130215559 Learn proper english you didn't get the fuck I have said We're talking about degenerancy right ? Let me quote myself >A CONSERVATIVE father Get it Sure the hippie daddies would enjoy their kid being a faggot The others kicked them out or beaten them the fuck out Good times",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638641 130183394,130216299,2017-06-16 18:45:39,">>130183394 In b4 the thread dies...",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638739 130183394,130216300,2017-06-16 18:45:39,">>130215766 Of course ""it did"". The point is that no contract can ever cover everything; and no party will ever know everything about a contract, as all contracts are related to other writings (and I'm not going to say laws, unless your inner ancap self starts screaming). Post-contractual negotiations matter, post-contractual revisions matter, knowledge of the contract itself matters, knowledge of related writings matters. You guys seem to be completely oblivious to this, as I'm seeing ""perfect contracts"" implicit in everything you are writing.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638739 130183394,130216306,2017-06-16 18:45:42,">>130216087 >beating them the fuck out That breaking the NAP dude.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638742 130183394,130216344,2017-06-16 18:46:04,">>130214877 it's not an ""excuse"", it's an option. If a community is shit, you move, if a community is good, you stay and manage things, negotiate, make compromises, deals, etc. You take responsibility for your actions instead of whining and bitching about ""degeneracy"" like it's someone else's problem but your own >Again, you assume way too much control. the entire point of AnCap is to give as much individual control as much as possible. Take responsibility for your actions. >You don't even need ancap for it. Yes, but AnCap is the most efficient at weeding it out in a more stable manner rather than reckless purges left and right. Not to mention more cost-efficient rather than government-sponsored eugenics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497638764 130183394,130216383,2017-06-16 18:46:21,">>130183394 Cantwell is a fat disgusting fuck. I dont like him and cant respect him mainly because of the way he looks. If you cant have the self discipline to stop stuffing your face and making shitty decisions three times a day every day of your life, you are degenerate and I want you to not exist.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,/PxQyEQ4AFTLVr6L/4W2eA==,US,,1497638781 130183394,130216431,2017-06-16 18:46:40,">>130215996 Which one of the three? And look how we are arguing about nothing lol",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638800 130183394,130216465,2017-06-16 18:46:57,">>130216087 I am talking about conservative fathers, you mung.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638817 130183394,130216507,2017-06-16 18:47:15,">>130216306 LOL cry about it, I wonder if the state would protect you faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497638835 130183394,130216532,2017-06-16 18:47:21,">>130216300 If you don't believe in contracts then GTFO commie scum, this whole system would be built on voluntary contracts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638841 130183394,130216556,2017-06-16 18:47:31,">>130216087 Also, I like the father-son relationship you have going on.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638851 130183394,130216682,2017-06-16 18:48:30,">>130216431 All of them? Just explain to me what you actually know about the ideology. Shouldn't be hard for you :^)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497638910 130183394,130216700,2017-06-16 18:48:39,">>130216532 That's why the system would fail. No possible system can be solely based on such a thing.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638919 130183394,130216716,2017-06-16 18:48:48,">>130216306 >on my property I stated no faggots invited here son,you have three seconds to get the fuck out >I don't give a shit,property rights are baddies because it don't accept my homosexua-",,Anonymous,image.jpg,a1xwIAAlCAUzduxYYSFlJw==,,,1497638928 130183394,130216807,2017-06-16 18:49:37,">>130216344 >it's not an ""excuse"", it's an option. If a community is shit, you move, if a community is good, you stay and manage things, negotiate, make compromises, deals, etc. You take responsibility for your actions instead of whining and bitching about ""degeneracy"" like it's someone else's problem but your own good cuck",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497638977 130183394,130216809,2017-06-16 18:49:38,">>130216383 that's rude",,Anonymous,,,,,1497638978 130183394,130216878,2017-06-16 18:50:12,">>130216556 It was like that in France before Mitterand My father told me about fags being expulsed",,Anonymous,,,,,1497639012 130183394,130216901,2017-06-16 18:50:22,">>130216344 >the entire point of AnCap is to give as much individual control as much as possible. Take responsibility for your actions. my point: ""as possible"". Good luck on that.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497639022 130183394,130216921,2017-06-16 18:50:33,">>130216700 This current system is literally built on this, but it's not voluntary, you are retarded if you cannot comprehend this, no further arguments left for you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497639033 130183394,130216944,2017-06-16 18:50:44,">>130216507 I'm no statefaggot lol, only idiots in Putinland are statefaggots. I'm sure most of private judges will recognize this as a violation of the NAP. Then I'll just sold the claim to bounty hunters and they'll come and fuck your ass. >>130216716 BEATING, ARE YOU BLIND, BEATING, of course exiling is legal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497639044 130183394,130216977,2017-06-16 18:50:57,">>130216878 lol",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497639057 130183394,130217094,2017-06-16 18:51:49,">>130216921 I'd love we could try your utopia so you could show to the whole world your delusion, just like the commies did.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497639109 130183394,130217135,2017-06-16 18:52:07,">>130216809 And true",,Anonymous,,,,,1497639127 130183394,130217211,2017-06-16 18:52:51,">>130217094 Not an argument, anarcho-capitalism is just libertarianism taken to it's logical conclusion. Communism is completely idiotic based on logical fallacies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497639171 130216761,130216761,2017-06-16 18:49:15,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >/lrg/ Chatroom discord / Tucrr4X >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - KILL EM ALL LET THE MARKET SORT EM OUT,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,US,,1497638955 130216761,130216852,2017-06-16 18:49:59,"Last Thread. >>130183394",,Anonymous,LIVE_REE_OR_DIE.png,OWjYVSk4MpCrSo8lpRlBBA==,US,,1497638999 130216761,130216886,2017-06-16 18:50:16,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1497639016 130216761,130216929,2017-06-16 18:50:37,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1497639037 130216761,130216949,2017-06-16 18:50:47,">>130216761 Fuck nazis and fascists too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497639047 130216761,130216985,2017-06-16 18:51:01,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1497639061 130216761,130217003,2017-06-16 18:51:10,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1497639070 130216761,130217021,2017-06-16 18:51:19,,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1497639079 130216761,130217040,2017-06-16 18:51:28,,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1497639088 130216761,130217095,2017-06-16 18:51:50,,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1497639110 130216761,130217166,2017-06-16 18:52:25,">>130216949 Don't leave out the Homosexual Communists that subvert our movement.",,Anonymous,Means_To_Liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1497639145 130216761,130217195,2017-06-16 18:52:41,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1497639161 130216761,130217384,2017-06-16 18:54:18,">>130217166 better ver",,Anonymous,weapons_are_the_means_to_liberty.png,eI5O6TirBEeoRBs5ceYQNQ==,GB,,1497639258 130216761,130217474,2017-06-16 18:55:05,">>130217384 alright, will save.",,Anonymous,RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1497639305 130216761,130217497,2017-06-16 18:55:16,,,Anonymous,AnarchoCapitalism.png,j5wbFkPBZ5wTXDso5Ejjxg==,US,,1497639316 130216761,130217731,2017-06-16 18:57:21,">>130216807 >good cuck is that the best you can do? an ad-hominem? I present to you the radical idea of personal responsibility, integrity, and honesty between internal community affairs, and you retreat from it like a coward. How predictably pathetic >>130216901 >my point: ""as possible"". Good luck on that. No luck is needed, that's the point. You control your luck, and you make things happens instead of wishful thinking",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497639441 130216761,130217984,2017-06-16 18:59:22,">>130216761 >BEATING Moy dom moi pravila",,Anonymous,image.jpg,J1c7Q4MJKm8N4bJ1rcvtlg==,,,1497639562 130216761,130218436,2017-06-16 19:03:05,">>130217731 >is that the best you can do? It's exactly what you are. Your community goes to shit, and you say ""simply move"", like it's no big deal. Not only you are rootless, but you are completely defeatist. Instead, what you should do is act on your community to change it for the better. >No luck is needed, that's the point. You control your luck, and you make things happens instead of wishful thinking This is ridiculous. You are saying there is no randomness in the world, whereas it is dominated by randomness and unpredictability. And, no, insurance markets don't solve the problem if that's where your autism is going.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497639785 130216761,130218747,2017-06-16 19:05:47,">>130218436 If you live in a society with tradition ( like fucking up degenerates ) and you refuse to partake with the traditions, YOU ARE THE AGITATOR! What the fuck are you even arguing about anymore?!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497639947 130216761,130219367,2017-06-16 19:11:25,">>130217984 You have no right to deny someone exit from your private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497640285 130216761,130219496,2017-06-16 19:12:44,">>130216761 I heard you guys were being mean to homosexuals and using racial slurs. That is NOT COOL. seriously , libertarianism is an inclusive philosophy about love. Capitalism is about LOVE you guys. No more hatespeech or i'll have to ask you all to leave. I'm serious.",,Anonymous,jeffrey-tucker.jpg,kyCXU7+NM+E6OAA6X0+VPw==,,,1497640364 130216761,130219580,2017-06-16 19:13:30,">>130219367 It's called discrimination Tchitay hoppe vso poymosh",,Anonymous,,,,,1497640410 130216761,130219821,2017-06-16 19:16:01,">>130219496 Fuck off cucker, no one likes you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497640561 130216761,130220005,2017-06-16 19:17:38,">>130218747 Each nazi was fond of ""his very own good jew"". Nonetheless, you are saying it's perfectly good and normal for a father to kick his son out of his town (and note I'm talking about town, not house) because the other people in the town don't like him. If you cannot ensure generational stability in your society, it will collapse.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497640658 130216761,130220074,2017-06-16 19:18:14,">>130218436 >you should do is act on your community to change it for the better. that's what I also said by personal responsibility, negotiation, compromises, etc. You fucking communicate with other like-minded individuals like the property owners and you just called me a cuck you contradictory mong >You are saying there is no randomness in the world, I never made such a statement, but you can definitely mitigate your odds so they're in your favor. And you call me defeatist? You're literally suggesting you're some helpless baby to lady luck instead of making her your bitch",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497640694 130216761,130220100,2017-06-16 19:18:28,">>130219496 Yeah, thats ""OMG HATESPEECH HOW BAD"" narrative fucking sucks. Words are fucking words. >>130219821 >not seeing obvious satire",,Anonymous,,,,,1497640708 130216761,130220145,2017-06-16 19:18:59,">>130220005 Strawman again. I'm saying it's perfectly normal, because it's voluntary. YOU AGREED to TAKE all the BENEFITS of the society, in EXCHANGE for some RULES.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497640739 130216761,130220382,2017-06-16 19:21:09,">>130220005 >If you cannot ensure generational stability in your society, it will collapse. yes, because like-minded people voluntarily coming together to private property they like while being extremely discriminatory against outsiders and people they don't like is totally generationally unstable you literally have no argument other than strawman after strawman",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497640869 130216761,130220440,2017-06-16 19:21:48,">>130219496 Do you want to join a voluntary funded boxing match Tucker You get 30%...if we don't count the healthcare Bills",,Anonymous,image.jpg,wKCnAZrtWHdin2DbXmR5gA==,,,1497640908 130216761,130220719,2017-06-16 19:24:35,Don't follow false gods,,Anonymous,globalism.jpg,g1HyJrzAUR0SxHcIHdh0AA==,,,1497641075 130216761,130220944,2017-06-16 19:27:01,">>130220719 No way >Decentralization>Nationalism>Globalism I'll take nationalism instead of gay ass globalist EU fags",,Anonymous,,,,,1497641221 130216761,130221054,2017-06-16 19:28:12,">>130220944 wtf I'm indifferent on protectionism now",,Anonymous,,,,,1497641292 130216761,130221066,2017-06-16 19:28:17,"Traditionfags, explain, why traditional families are superior to others? They were formed in agrarian pre-civilisation societies and are continiously breaking since humanity entered industrial age. Seems like they are just going extinct like dinosaurs, unable to adapt to modern enviroment. I'm legitimatly curious.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497641297 130216761,130221095,2017-06-16 19:28:37,">>130220719 absolutely disgusting",,Anonymous,1491343044497.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1497641317 130216761,130221200,2017-06-16 19:29:28,">>130221054 Protectionism sure beats global socialism and PC mind control zombies.",,Anonymous,1487041975527.jpg,WOXJhZNneX564LJE5Tn+Mg==,,,1497641368 130216761,130221208,2017-06-16 19:29:29,">>130220719 LIAR PHARISIAN",,Anonymous,image.jpg,KDzoOE6dknWUPPAvbmaNUQ==,,,1497641369 130216761,130221278,2017-06-16 19:30:11,">>130220944 Rule of individual over itself > nationalism = globalism. It's same shit bro, only difference is in which hands your stolen money is going.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1497641411 130216761,130221290,2017-06-16 19:30:20,">>130220944 >gay ass globalist EU fags They're building another soviet-union, but this time it will be having a fake-capitalism as a cover. And all the time the jihadis are doing their own shit too. What a nightmare.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497641420 130216761,130221321,2017-06-16 19:30:32,">>130221066 The child isn't fucked up at then end",,Anonymous,image.jpg,qtaMP/rU99vRHiYoRffxwA==,,,1497641432 130216761,130221381,2017-06-16 19:31:08,">>130220719 >implying Trump isn't completely under der juden's control",,Anonymous,1497558457298.jpg,A9uNwJEbIDCZNHAw6fmIag==,US,,1497641468 130216761,130221394,2017-06-16 19:31:17,">>130221278 I'd rather be stolen from by a pollack than by merkel desu. Still doesn't mean I lke any of those, I hate those systems.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497641477 130216761,130221528,2017-06-16 19:32:29,">>130220074 >You fucking communicate with other like-minded individuals like the property owners It is always less costly to not to move, unless you credibly threaten to kill me. Of course, if things escalate to this point, I can do the same thing, if I think I have a shot. And given how people misjudge these type of events (which is why the death penalty is not a good deterrent), even if the people being threatened deportation don't have a shot he will often move forcefully against you. And no matter what's happens, I'm being deported/killed because of what my son does and the fact the community doesn't like him. >I never made such a statement, but you can definitely mitigate your odds so they're in your favor. So, you do lack control in some way. Then, your points are invalid on how your kids will turn out.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497641549 130216761,130221545,2017-06-16 19:32:41,">>130221278 Yeah I'd rather it go to the less powerful state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497641561 130216761,130221654,2017-06-16 19:33:39,">>130221321 Non-traditional =/= non-traditional sexuality of family members I'm more about things like patriarchy, strong familiy ties, traditional gender roles etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497641619 130216761,130221657,2017-06-16 19:33:40,">>130220382 Yes, if the outsiders are born in your midst and a minority of insiders are fond of them.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497641620 130216761,130221822,2017-06-16 19:35:12,">>130221394 >>130221545 Nationalism doesn't mean weak state by itself. See Russia.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1497641712 130216761,130221890,2017-06-16 19:36:03,">>130221200 >AnCap makes an argument for restricting the free market",,Anonymous,1477978959653.png,ukPMZB9M8hnG4XoFxVqVpw==,,,1497641763 130216761,130221998,2017-06-16 19:37:03,I hope you aren't using that window over there.,,Anonymous,serveimage.jpg,fGp7yo+5BWkCc+n6224xNg==,CA,,1497641823 130216761,130222112,2017-06-16 19:38:06,">>130220145 >voluntary means it's immediately good >assuming perfect contracts again",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497641886 130216761,130222147,2017-06-16 19:38:31,">>130221890 Im making an argument for less restriction of the free market than you are proposing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497641911 130216761,130222183,2017-06-16 19:38:41,">>130221654 >patriarchy, strong familiy ties, traditional gender roles etc. The more woman fucks,the more she is fucked up (they are devalued) Also trannies kill themselves very fast without any hatespeech,atleast the natural selection works But I don't mind it if they do shit in their property and don't agress others,it's better for me actually becasie they will sold it very fast after the familiy is broke",,Anonymous,image.jpg,rSR0/SVCXXCrWjHfPEEfPA==,,,1497641921 130216761,130222225,2017-06-16 19:39:07,>>130216761,,Anonymous,image.jpg,VhNXn0puTBNYHdd+JPT+mQ==,US,,1497641947 130216761,130222318,2017-06-16 19:39:56,"You guys are pretty cool, cucks (such as the ones that've infiltrated the US libertarian party) aside. Let's remove those globalist, trotskyite subhumans together, right? Then we'll voluntarily submit ourselves to a fascist state with territory we claim, and then we'll maintain a steady if banter-filled relationship with your seasteading artificial McIslands or whatever you have planned.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497641996 130216761,130222357,2017-06-16 19:40:23,">>130222112 Just go to a different society, we have like a few hundred countries right now, just make that times 2-200 and you have so much to choose one is going to definitely suit you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642023 130216761,130222450,2017-06-16 19:41:11,">>130221528 >It is always less costly to not to move money problems are never an excuse. Just admit you're not just shit at raising kids and failed your son, you're also shit at managing finances if you run into money problems unprepared. You deserve to get deported into ghetto communities where you belong >I'm being deported/killed because of what my son does and the fact the community doesn't like him. you should be deported if you can't control of your fucking kids, the same way if you can't control your wife you're also weak. Are you this mental? ""I AM LITERALLY A SHITTY DAD PLEASE LET ME STAY IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT ACTUALLY HAS STANDARDS"" christ you're exactly the kind of people I would actively try to boot from a community >>130221657 it doesn't matter if a minority of insiders are fond of them, if the community's policy means no shitskins and degeneracy, it means no shitskins and degeneracy. You find people who uphold this no shitskins and degeneracy private rule, and develop a private community this way so everybody's on the same page. Stop assuming people won't self-segregate themselves, and stop assuming everybody's going to live in the same politically open societies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497642071 130216761,130222502,2017-06-16 19:41:39,Why do all libertarians lack compassion? Is it because none of you received love as a child? <3,,Anonymous,,,,,1497642099 130216761,130222581,2017-06-16 19:42:17,">>130222357 he literally won't move to a different community because he's a poorfag and wants to stay despite his kid being a massive fag causing problems for everyone and he calls US cucks! hahaha",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497642137 130216761,130222584,2017-06-16 19:42:19,">>130222183 Again, i'm not about sexual/gender shit, i'm about patriarchy and large interconnected families, like everyone is in command of the oldest male, sisters and brothers live together with their families and etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642139 130216761,130222596,2017-06-16 19:42:25,">>130222147 yeah but still funny",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642145 130216761,130222704,2017-06-16 19:43:27,">>130222502 We don't, we just thing forcing compassion at gunpoint is worse.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642207 130216761,130222730,2017-06-16 19:43:45,">>130222704 *think",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642225 130216761,130222744,2017-06-16 19:43:57,What are you opinions on drugs?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497642237 130216761,130222766,2017-06-16 19:44:07,">>130218436 A free society would have very protective neighborhoods. Without government distortion, people will mix into like-minded communities. A society of direct accountability naturally weeds out corruption. If insurance was solely based on taking care of people with bad luck (rather than subsidizing risky behavior) it would be a hell of a lot cheaper.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642247 130216761,130222771,2017-06-16 19:44:11,">>130222450 >money problems are never an excuse I'm talking about opportunity costs, you mung. >you should be deported if you can't control of your fucking kids You just admitted there are things in your kids you don't control, now you are assuming you control everything again. Inconsistency ftw. Your ideology cannot deal with unpredictability, just like those good ol' basic microeconomic models hahaha >it doesn't matter if a minority of insiders are fond of them the outsiders are their fucking kids Defending one's kids is one of the biggest motivations people have.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497642251 130216761,130222785,2017-06-16 19:44:20,">>130221822 >Let's remove those globalist, trotskyite subhumans together, right? Im good with that. subversives be damned. when What Must be Done™ is done we'll decide on an order that works for us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642260 130216761,130222912,2017-06-16 19:45:26,">>130222502 >having compassion for people that want to kill you Why are libtards so indiscriminate? Why do they completely lack a sense of right and wrong?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642326 130216761,130222915,2017-06-16 19:45:28,">>130222596 yeah I know, most of these tards would just say ""but muh nap tho"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642328 130216761,130222948,2017-06-16 19:45:46,">>130222502 Obvious b8, but. Compassion as enforced by the state is not compassion. It might start as compassion, but eventually it just becomes a method of gaining votes in a partisan system by promising to devote more money to social programs, regardless of the actual effect of those programs. It stops being compassion, and starts becoming basic pandering in order to snag voters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642346 130216761,130223000,2017-06-16 19:46:20,">>130222766 >people will mix into like-minded communities. All fine and dandy but your society gets more people through birth and migration. You are only accounting for the latter, and assuming you perfectly control your kids' education. And this not to mention how hugely dependent it is on people knowing each other's reputation and handling their own.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497642380 130216761,130223019,2017-06-16 19:46:36,">>130222744 Hell yea. >>130222785 Just change your flair to fascism then. Killing people for their beliefs is NOT AnCap, it breaks NAP. Only extradition.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642396 130216761,130223044,2017-06-16 19:46:52,">>130221095 Stealing this meme",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642412 130216761,130223134,2017-06-16 19:47:43,">>130223019 >Hell yea. I see I don't belong here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497642463 130216761,130223163,2017-06-16 19:47:58,">>130216761 IT IS TIME",,Anonymous,cword.png,ANhaHT4gibXjqcJUUe2kMw==,,,1497642478 130216761,130223184,2017-06-16 19:48:07,">>130222771 >You just admitted there are things in your kids you don't control, now you are assuming you control everything again. Inconsistency ftw. >hurr control is black and white, you either have no control or full control! retard >Your ideology cannot deal with unpredictability it precisely deals with the unpredictable by managing what is predictable and acting accordingly, mitigating the odds to the best possible consistent outcome >the outsiders are their fucking kids. Defending one's kids is one of the biggest motivations people have. I just told you that there's a no shitskins and degenerates rule in this private community, which includes race mixers. Nice try moving the goalpost, if somebody is dating shitskins/degenerates then the community can deal with them knowing what could potentially happen in the future",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497642487 130216761,130223284,2017-06-16 19:49:21,">>130222502 Because I don't believe that theft is ever justifiable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642561 130216761,130223331,2017-06-16 19:49:39,">>130223019 >beliefs encourage a harmful ideology that will most likely cause an ancap system to collapse >people may not submit to forced extradition >what do with people that want to destroy your government and way of life and implement a harmful system and will respond with violence if you try to extradite them??? >Captcha: Select squares with helicopters in them",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642579 130216761,130223365,2017-06-16 19:50:03,">>130222771 >things in your kids you don't control Most people are aware kids are stupid so they would obviously get some leniency. I don't why any city would ramp up removal to 100 immediately. That's what the state does with its shitty heavy handed approach. I'd imagine if you have a tight knit community people would actually come together to solve issues.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642603 130216761,130223372,2017-06-16 19:50:08,">>130222584 The owner of a The household decides How it works And since women don't like entrepreneurship (but still complain there aren't enough female CEO) it's normal for The male in The majority of cases being The leader of The house",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642608 130216761,130223436,2017-06-16 19:50:44,">>130223019 NAP doesn't apply to those who break the NAP, they must be physically removed by any means necessary",,Anonymous,kiddo2.jpg,Y1tz2DN7F1cNSAlvoNumGA==,,,1497642644 130216761,130223511,2017-06-16 19:51:20,">>130223134 Why not? I don't shove them down anyone's throats, this doesn't implact my professional behavior, I don't harm anyone's property or anything.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1497642680 130216761,130223536,2017-06-16 19:51:38,">>130223019 A society where a population threatens the ""seize the means of production"", starts riots and destroys property is not a libertarian society. They have to be dealt with. They actually are violating the nap, im just talking about it.",,Anonymous,ad232103153protesters-burn.jpg,yL1qw3koHy3lpzfz0QPPhw==,,,1497642698 130216761,130223594,2017-06-16 19:52:03,"Reporting all of the copyright violations in this thread, hope you all get DMCA'd",,Anonymous,tmp_19614-big-gun-side-10080440451059852.jpg,O+vNRfJWF5YUCPnJH7P+UQ==,,,1497642723 130216761,130223608,2017-06-16 19:52:16,">>130222744 I want to enjoy seing junkies asking me to help them after they destroyed themselves and whispering to their rotten ears ""no""",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642736 130216761,130223647,2017-06-16 19:52:42,">>130222948 Positive liberties can never be compassionate unless it is done with consent which almost never is the case in the eternal nanny-state. Sure, If some owner of a private enterprise wants to give nigs and spics special treatment for whatever reason, they have my blessings, but I'll never use their services.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1497642762 130216761,130223691,2017-06-16 19:53:02,">>130223000 People naturally congregate even in this fucked up world of corrupt government subsidies. You think it's a coincidence San Francisco is full of faggots and Utah has a shit ton of Mormons? Obviously kids aren't always going to be like their parents so sometimes they'll migrate to communities that hold their ideals. Multiculturalism (byproduct is unrest and violence) is a twisted, corrupt society and ISN'T natural. Humans are tribal and homogeneous by nature. >And this not to mention how hugely dependent it is on people knowing each other's reputation and handling their own. Even in the fucking 1800s they could track reputations. Everyone knew each other and strangers weren't trusted until they proved they were civil and compatible. We have the internet and computers now genius, reputation tracking is easier than ever.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642782 130216761,130223727,2017-06-16 19:53:20,">>130223331 >>130223436 >>130223536 Of course after they break NAP/threaten it (which is equivalent) we can helicopter them. But not before, cause it makes us same as nazis/stalinists.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1497642800 130216761,130223740,2017-06-16 19:53:31,">>130223436 Are we honestly arguing about the morality of killing commies? I thought it was already settled; communists are attempting to violate our property rights, so we are justified in using force against them to protect our rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642811 130216761,130223766,2017-06-16 19:53:46,">>130223134 he's a bit of a faggot. He wants freedom to do harm and live a sick lifestlye. don't let him be the representitive of the rest of us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642826 130216761,130223774,2017-06-16 19:53:50,">>130223594 you have violated the NAP",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642830 130216761,130223793,2017-06-16 19:53:59,">>130222502 GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642839 130216761,130223841,2017-06-16 19:54:26,">>130223740 this. commies arent people, and this have no rights",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642866 130216761,130223890,2017-06-16 19:54:58,"“I believe in no God, no invisible man in the sky. But there is something more powerful than each of us, a combination of our efforts, a Great Chain of industry that unites us. But it is only when we struggle in our own interest that the chain pulls society in the right direction. The chain is too powerful and too mysterious for any government to guide. Any man who tells you different either has his hand in your pocket, or a pistol to your neck.” ― Andrew Ryan",,Anonymous,the great chain.png,YlKBWvlTZMODDmpbZ4PrfA==,,,1497642898 130216761,130223909,2017-06-16 19:55:06,">>130222581 this>>130223740 this too. Commies have no rights. REMEMBER WHAT MUST BE DONE!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642906 130216761,130223936,2017-06-16 19:55:20,">>130223184 >hurr control is black and white, you either have no control or full control! kek, that's exactly what you're saying. You are assuming I'm responsible for anything that doesn't go my way. >mitigating the odds to the best possible consistent outcome That's not enough, especially when they are still so high. >Nice try moving the goalpost I'm saying since the beginning that if your kid is a degenerate (i.e. he is gay) and born into a community he never agreed to, the community would be happy with him for a few years (until he doesn't reveal he is a faggot), and then kick him out when he's older. This not only conflicts with your voluntarist bullshit, but needs parents willing to completely shun their kids.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497642920 130216761,130223975,2017-06-16 19:55:43,">>130222912 But snake friend, there is no objective right or wrong",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642943 130216761,130223988,2017-06-16 19:55:52,">>130223365 So your community is what? 200 people?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497642952 130216761,130224008,2017-06-16 19:56:07,">>130223727 WELL GUESS WHAT THEY""RE DOING FAGGOT. This is not the thread for crypto-pacifist reddit ancaps.",,Anonymous,anarchists-dc.jpg,60mmAahICu+QRdjBXMIZlQ==,,,1497642967 130216761,130224015,2017-06-16 19:56:10,">>130223890 >Worshipping industry, capitalism Holy shit is this based?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642970 130216761,130224034,2017-06-16 19:56:23,">>130222704 We should just ban the guns then friend!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497642983 130216761,130224038,2017-06-16 19:56:27,">>130223740 Some libertarians are still too cucked to admit this or recognize it They need to listen to Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ",,Anonymous,helicopter-idles.jpg,wS9YpzkZk92EN3C+YDcuJQ==,,,1497642987 130216761,130224053,2017-06-16 19:56:37,In These Threads: So so sovereign individuals have their bidaily hivemind thought-merge. Have you aquired consensus yet?,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1497642997 130216761,130224140,2017-06-16 19:57:36,">>130223727 >>130223740 See >>130217021",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,,,1497643056 130216761,130224146,2017-06-16 19:57:38,">>130223284 Who is stealing from you friend? I'm sorry they stole from you. Maybe if we focused more on education, our fellow friends wouldn't feel the need to steal?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643058 130216761,130224148,2017-06-16 19:57:39,">>130223975 Then I suppose killing you is completely right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643059 130216761,130224162,2017-06-16 19:57:50,">>130223975 >there is no objective right or wrong So...yay for hobos lynching :D",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643070 130216761,130224213,2017-06-16 19:58:18,">>130223766 I do harm to no one. I just live the way I want to without harming others (property). Whats wrong with that? >>130223909 Thats 1984 and Holocaust-level shit. Until they don't violate NAP, we must not. That's what makes us different from them.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1497643098 130216761,130224217,2017-06-16 19:58:20,">>130224038 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pePVL8-TX_Q",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643100 130216761,130224269,2017-06-16 19:58:59,">>130224213 P H Y S I C A L R E M O V A L",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497643139 130216761,130224289,2017-06-16 19:59:12,">>130223691 >People naturally congregate even in this fucked up world of corrupt government subsidies. So, no need to change anything on this regard. >reputation tracking is easier than ever. It's exactly the opposite. People don't know each other, have no clue who even their neighbours are. Reputation management was easier in the past: much, much easier.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497643152 130216761,130224291,2017-06-16 19:59:13,">>130224148 If you can properly justify it :^) But I'm not encroaching on your property I'm simply presenting alternative views. Why would you threaten me snake friend?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643153 130216761,130224334,2017-06-16 19:59:41,">>130223988 >200 people Would be pretty good yea. Afaik we evolved to keep track of just about that many relationships.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643181 130216761,130224343,2017-06-16 19:59:49,">>130224217 Kek'd, haven't seen that one yet",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643189 130216761,130224381,2017-06-16 20:00:11,">>130224162 Let's find ways so there are no more hobos! Maybe we can provide for them as a ....community....!!!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643211 130216761,130224408,2017-06-16 20:00:32,">>130224213 Y'know what happens to parties that aren't willing to do the dirty work to ensure a clean, safe, and prosperous society fitting to their visions? They decay, collapse, and their dreams get feasted on by the hangers on that were able to get in and survive due to the overwhelming desire to be the better man.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643232 130216761,130224427,2017-06-16 20:00:44,">>130223936 >I'm saying since the beginning that if your kid is a degenerate (i.e. he is gay) and born into a community he never agreed to, the community would be happy with him for a few years (until he doesn't reveal he is a faggot), and then kick him out when he's older. This not only conflicts with your voluntarist bullshit, but needs parents willing to completely shun their kids. This is a flawed premise. It's against the NAP to kick someone out by force unless they have already broken the NAP. What would really happen is people would be rude or otherwise choose not to associate with degenerate. The degenerate would eventually leave to find a more positive environment on their own. What parents do with their children is their own business (assuming they're not using violence).",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643244 130216761,130224471,2017-06-16 20:01:12,">>130224381 Sure, start a community and manage it like you want. Just don't tread on us!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643272 130216761,130224513,2017-06-16 20:01:36,">>130224213 >we must make a revolution and seize the means of production >they are not harming anyone Bratan...ti znaesh kak eta zokontchelas(don't know How to make The soft symbol with latin letters)",,Anonymous,image.jpg,a7MI8eEdCIXbNX61MFuj4w==,,,1497643296 130216761,130224518,2017-06-16 20:01:39,">>130223936 >You are assuming I'm responsible for anything that doesn't go my way. You are. >""my own kid is now a complete and total utter crossdressing faggot!"" >""i dindu nuffins doe"" >""please let me and my kid stay to continue fagging things up"" >""omg y r u kicking me out ancap has failed me :(((((((("" >That's not enough, especially when they are still so high. >e-everything is all on luck man! >Entrepreneurs and business people? all luck. No skill involved. No responsibility. No accountability. No ambition, no drive, no dedication to results they want to see happen >hey man can i borrow money for more lotto tickets? literally your thought process >I'm saying since the beginning that if your kid is a degenerate (i.e. he is gay) and born into a community he never agreed to, the community would be happy with him for a few years (until he doesn't reveal he is a faggot), and then kick him out when he's older. This not only conflicts with your voluntarist bullshit, but needs parents willing to completely shun their kids. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. That faggot has chosen to express degeneracy in an explicitly anti-degeneracy community instead of saving up money and moving out on his own when he's older to more fag-friendly communities. There is no conflict. If he doesn't like, he moves. Private property owners have the first, last, and only say. Same goes for his parents, when they could at the very least give him money to move out with or send him to family members living in more (((open))) communities",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497643299 130216761,130224524,2017-06-16 20:01:45,">>130224213 >Until they don't violate NAP, we must not. If they are planning and organizing to kill us (they are), then they must be stopped beforehand. You can't wait until somebody kills you to fight back, then it's already too late.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643305 130216761,130224584,2017-06-16 20:02:18,">>130222502 Hurting people gives me the boner",,Anonymous,list of reasons to live.jpg,9XtqdO3eUGR0ZYzYLFWUdg==,US,,1497643338 130216761,130224612,2017-06-16 20:02:38,">>130224291 Like you said, there's no right and wrong, so killing you is perfectly acceptable, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643358 130216761,130224638,2017-06-16 20:02:54,">>130224213 >>130223766 There is no liberty without duty. You inflict harm upon the others who love you by damaging yourself. You are no an island in this world, and many people expose themselves to you, for you. Do not betray them by harming yourself in the pursuit of hedonism. Anarcho-Capitalism can only work when you project your actions forward to understand their consequences. Otherwise it ends up like a 'sold my baby for some nukes' meme.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497643374 130216761,130224664,2017-06-16 20:03:10,">>130224381 I will not give a single kopeck Lynching is more fun",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643390 130216761,130224695,2017-06-16 20:03:35,How do libertarians deal with the knowledge that 95% of Americans laugh at their fringe views? It must be difficult being viewed as a weirdo :(,,Anonymous,,,,,1497643415 130216761,130224760,2017-06-16 20:04:25,">>130224612 leftists don't understand natural rights, so don't try to argue with them. They exist to be thrown out of helicopters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643465 130216761,130224771,2017-06-16 20:04:34,">>130224612 No objective right or wrong. I would love to hear your subjective reasoning though my friend!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643474 130216761,130224781,2017-06-16 20:04:43,I have a serious question about the NAP. How would smokingi in public be handled with the NAP? Smoking can cause damage so isn't it technically a violation of the NAP?,,Anonymous,,,,,1497643483 130216761,130224786,2017-06-16 20:04:45,">>130224408 Proof, plz. >>130224513 >>130224524 That slogan is threat, and thus, violation of NAP already. Automatic turrets are way to go. >>130224638 >There is no liberty without duty. Goverment told me this shit about taxes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643485 130216761,130224798,2017-06-16 20:04:53,">>130224213 This thread was originated to sperarate ourselves once and for all from libertien idiots like you. Rothbard hated left-libertarians like you. Go ahead, smoke your fucking weed, just keep it away from us. You deserve the alienation you're getting. This is not the place for your bullshit shallow reddit tier interpretations of property rights and non-aggression. PHYSICALLY REMOVE COMMUNISTS AND THEIR LEFT-LIBERTARIAN SUBVERTERS.",,Anonymous,FUCK_REDDIT.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,,,1497643493 130216761,130224810,2017-06-16 20:04:59,">>130224053 >flag",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643499 130216761,130224840,2017-06-16 20:05:22,">>130224584 I'm sorry friend, have you considered seeing a therapist to talk about these things?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643522 130216761,130224865,2017-06-16 20:05:39,">>130224786 There is a fundamental difference between government and your people and society.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497643539 130216761,130224885,2017-06-16 20:05:52,">>130224781 yes",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643552 130216761,130224916,2017-06-16 20:06:09,">>130224427 How is that any different from what happens today?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497643569 130216761,130224928,2017-06-16 20:06:16,">>130224771 Why is there a subjective right and wrong if there is no objective one? Nothing really matters, might as well kill you, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643576 130216761,130224947,2017-06-16 20:06:27,">>130224781 >in public",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643587 130216761,130224960,2017-06-16 20:06:39,">>130224695 >How do heliocentrists believers deal with the knowledge that 95% of geocentrists laugh at their fringe views? It must be difficult being viewed as a weirdo :(",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497643599 130216761,130224985,2017-06-16 20:06:55,">>130224798 >PHYSICALLY REMOVE COMMUNISTS AND THEIR LEFT-LIBERTARIAN SUBVERTERS THIS",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643615 130216761,130224991,2017-06-16 20:06:59,">>130224760 You seem very angry at life friend. I'm sorry things haven't gone your way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643619 130216761,130224995,2017-06-16 20:07:02,">>130216761 PHYSICAL. REMOVAL. OF. COMMUNIST. FAGS. SAY IT AGAIN!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643622 130216761,130225025,2017-06-16 20:07:19,">>130224798 Left? U kidding? I'm as pro-laissez faire as man not paying taxes can be. I'm just against though policing, this is 1984-level shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643639 130216761,130225054,2017-06-16 20:07:40,">>130224985 God damn right.",,Anonymous,Ancap.png,ekRLw3QrrHBNxuqdBs+hEA==,,,1497643660 130216761,130225083,2017-06-16 20:07:57,">>130224760 I just like pointing out his hypocrisy, maybe he will learn something",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643677 130216761,130225102,2017-06-16 20:08:09,">>130224518 Your whole post is an ode on the reasons why these ""societies"" would collapse in a generation.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497643689 130216761,130225115,2017-06-16 20:08:16,">mention drugs >everyone wants to lynch the hippie who takes the bait",,Anonymous,davil pepe.jpg,ARRwtOoI9GfeHh5T3Pj6CA==,GB,,1497643696 130216761,130225117,2017-06-16 20:08:16,">>130224960 >How do evolutionists deal with the knowledge that 95% of creationists laugh at their fringe views?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643696 130216761,130225167,2017-06-16 20:08:42,">>130225025 fuck off. cry about internet bullying all you want.",,Anonymous,The Divide.png,uX5920lmnG8s81ddB8O9Ow==,,,1497643722 130216761,130225183,2017-06-16 20:08:49,">>130217095 Fuck yeah.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643729 130216761,130225197,2017-06-16 20:08:56,">>130224798 AAAAMEN!",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497643736 130216761,130225210,2017-06-16 20:09:06,">>130224928 Because individuals are capable of creating their own moral compass based on their upbringing and environment. If the environment you were brought up in suggests you should kill strangers, I have to wonder what the values instilled in that environment are aimed at producing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643746 130216761,130225221,2017-06-16 20:09:14,">>130225025 He means social left",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643754 130216761,130225230,2017-06-16 20:09:24,">>130224695 Feels patrician. Gotta admit it feels isolated though. When I meet someone that shares my views it's like meeting a unicorn. They'll come around though. Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum",,Anonymous,Snek gril.jpg,XZdLSwAqpIm4oTpuXaO7+g==,,,1497643764 130216761,130225249,2017-06-16 20:09:36,">>130225102 how so? you're all bark with no bite, you and your faggot son",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497643776 130216761,130225260,2017-06-16 20:09:42,">>130225025 I think you agree, but you just don't see how big the threat is It's not thought police, it's ACTION police, these people are literally trying to kill us",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643782 130216761,130225266,2017-06-16 20:09:44,"If I were to fire a metal projectile in the direction of a communist, and that metal projectile happened to pass through that communist would it even be against NAP? As we know Commies don't acknowledge ownership and private property, thus, they're also ultimately denouncing the ownership of their own bodies which means that said metal projectile would travel through something nobody yet has claimed ownership of. Am I correct here?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1497643784 130216761,130225325,2017-06-16 20:10:23,">>130224289 >So, no need to change anything on this regard. Except, you know. The violence and endless poverty caused by multiculturalism and subsidies you fucking imbecile. >It's exactly the opposite. People don't know each other, have no clue who even their neighbours are. Reputation management was easier in the past: much, much easier. First off, speak for yourself. I have lived in several neighborhoods where all the neighbors knew each other. It's only in big multicultural cities do people start ignoring neighbors. I have nothing in fucking common with my neighbors currently and all I really need to know is they've already been screened for felonies. I mean what's your point, we don't check our neighbors today because it's not needed. I couldn't give a shit about my neighbors outside of making sure they're not going to steal my packages. My apartment complex screens all residents and we have private security for shenanigans. We also have police patrolling the neighborhood regularly, I don't need to fucking know everyone by name. In a free society, reputation management will be mostly handled by landlords and banks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643823 130216761,130225329,2017-06-16 20:10:24,">>130225210 I have to wonder what kind of environment you were brought up in where you lack a sense of right and wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643824 130216761,130225344,2017-06-16 20:10:34,">>130225230 Do you ever worry that they just pretend they agree with your views to shut your lecturing up and then make fun of you behind your back?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643834 130216761,130225367,2017-06-16 20:10:47,">>130225266 If you want to be generous, then no. But Commies aren't deserving of generosity.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497643847 130216761,130225396,2017-06-16 20:11:04,">>130224334 That's retarded. That size is not optimal economically nor militarily. The territory of my country would have 50000 of these communities. And they would deal with each other like countries do today with ""international law"".",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497643864 130216761,130225400,2017-06-16 20:11:05,">>130225266 Just remeber that there are other rules in current societies in NAP, but yeah, us libertarians don't think communists apply to the NAP, because they want to violate the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497643865 130216761,130225413,2017-06-16 20:11:15,">>130225266 Our Libertarian state would in theory be empowered to remove threats to our Libertarian state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643875 130216761,130225434,2017-06-16 20:11:27,">>130225167 Internet bullying is oxxymoron for me, my friend. I just want to see reasoning. >>130225260 >trying Unleash the McNukes",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643887 130216761,130225450,2017-06-16 20:11:33,">>130225329 But why do you assume I lack a sense of right or wrong? Could we not have differing views of what is right and what is wrong?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643893 130216761,130225465,2017-06-16 20:11:45,">>130225266 Commies are not people, so that is perfectly fine",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643905 130216761,130225516,2017-06-16 20:12:20,">>130225450 You think it's fine if I kill you, sounds like a pretty odd ideology you got going there",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643940 130216761,130225525,2017-06-16 20:12:28,">>130224916 Not much difference from what happens today. This really is a topic outside of libertarianism outside of the reminder that Libertarians believe in freedom of association which is the opposite of what SJWs and communists believe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497643948 130216761,130225619,2017-06-16 20:13:25,">>130225344 Stop posting Tree-hugger",,Anonymous,image.jpg,zTE0K/XChaUFjs0sBQVfRA==,,,1497644005 130216761,130225631,2017-06-16 20:13:33,">>130217003 https://youtu.be/xHlyDhwIRjg fake ass libertarian. GO FUCK YOUR WALL!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497644013 130216761,130225634,2017-06-16 20:13:33,">>130216761 Fuck off.",,Anonymous,LibertarianismIsJewish.jpg,B9SqshDMkcPy4ksjovurSw==,US,,1497644013 130216761,130225656,2017-06-16 20:13:51,>>130216761,,Anonymous,1493045945287.png,rQSvWqkFzpJGTYwhv6vdYw==,US,,1497644031 130216761,130225670,2017-06-16 20:13:58,">>130225325 >Except, you know. The violence and endless poverty caused by multiculturalism and subsidies you fucking imbecile. As you guys always say: just move. You should consider Poland, perhaps. >reputation management will be mostly handled by landlords and banks. lol >we don't check our neighbors today because it's not needed given what you said, again, there is no need to change",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497644038 130216761,130225699,2017-06-16 20:14:18,Pill me on the difference between deontological and consequentialist libertarianism,,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497644058 130216761,130225717,2017-06-16 20:14:30,">>130225634 >tfw you will fight these guys and then the Jews win",,Anonymous,1428341859602.png,1BOiRyK1/Av6uYLn9eYEpg==,GB,,1497644070 130216761,130225722,2017-06-16 20:14:31,">>130225631 *laughs in Rocwell*",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644071 130216761,130225724,2017-06-16 20:14:34,">>130225465 ""Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster."" -Friedrich Nietzsche",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644074 130216761,130225784,2017-06-16 20:15:13,">>130225699 Ends do not justify the means vs. ends do not justify the memes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497644113 130216761,130225827,2017-06-16 20:15:34,">>130225784 i mean do justify the memes excuse me",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497644134 130216761,130225830,2017-06-16 20:15:36,">>130225525 So there is no need to change. But if you really want it, just shill for secession (and then watch your country destroy itself from within).",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497644136 130216761,130225843,2017-06-16 20:15:45,">>130225516 If I deemed the killing completely justifiable! You've yet to present any answers for your subjective desire to do so, unfortunately :(. Is it OK if someone with more resources and power decides to kill you, under your libertarian dream world?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644145 130216761,130225866,2017-06-16 20:15:56,">>130225724 Can't be a monster if you're not really killing people, just communists.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497644156 130216761,130225877,2017-06-16 20:16:06,">>130225724 Nietzsche is right, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't fight monsters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644166 130216761,130225906,2017-06-16 20:16:29,">>130225670 >As you guys always say: just move. You should consider Poland, perhaps. Lol classic meme answer. First off you can't ""just move"". There's taxes, you have to literally ostracize yourself from family, and you're just moving under another government which doesn't acknowledge individual rights. You ""lol"" about my bank/landlord comment because you aren't equipped to provide an actual contrary response. I think I've hit your intellectual limit, which is sad.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644189 130216761,130225929,2017-06-16 20:16:43,">>130225619 Should libertarians not protect the environment to ensure their property will last for generations?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644203 130216761,130225944,2017-06-16 20:16:51,">>130225843 I never said I wanted to kill you, I said under your ideology it is perfectly acceptable to do so. Interesting how your ideology has no sense of self-preservation in it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644211 130216761,130225955,2017-06-16 20:16:57,">>130225827 Which one is ""ends justifying means?""",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497644217 130216761,130225994,2017-06-16 20:17:23,">>130225843 I.said.stop.posting",,Anonymous,image.jpg,cQtw+c6je+BLrQrAKcGpZg==,,,1497644243 130216761,130226055,2017-06-16 20:18:04,">>130225955 consequentialist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497644284 130216761,130226102,2017-06-16 20:18:36,">>130225929 >Should They can. It could be helpful to them; however, should they be required to?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644316 130216761,130226119,2017-06-16 20:18:47,">>130225830 You are really stupid aren't you? So I'm done reasoning with you since you're basically a complacent little sheep. Hope one day the government fucks you over hardcore one day and you starve to death.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644327 130216761,130226122,2017-06-16 20:18:47,>>130225929,,Anonymous,image.jpg,RJwNlvpmPI7KaW+Eq5Dtzg==,,,1497644327 130216761,130226183,2017-06-16 20:19:20,">>130225944 Do you consider your ideology to be absolutely, objectively superior? Who says my ideology doesn't allow for self-preservation? Qts seem to like well-adjusted, non-bitter guys so my genes have been passed on :^)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644360 130216761,130226210,2017-06-16 20:19:36,">>130225866 You already fell in the Abyss. This is same logic they would justify killing us. We are not commies/fascists/liberals/anyshit, and we must not kill people for their thoughts. >>130225877 I'm more about this ^^^",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644376 130216761,130226219,2017-06-16 20:19:43,">>130225344 >shut your lecturing I don't do that. Believe it or not some people actually respect my opinion. >>130225396 >not optimal economically Like you know. People do drive to work you know? So you can live in one place. And work elsewhere. Weird concept, I know. >militarily They could pool defense resources. >50000 of these communities Cool. More choice. >like countries do today Why? They're hardly states in the conventional sense. The whole interaction would be a lot more streamlined.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644383 130216761,130226313,2017-06-16 20:20:50,">>130226210 Exactly, why can't we kill them, when they always want to kill us? Do you know how liberty in the US was won? Also, we're speaking P H Y S I C A L R E M O V A L here, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1497644450 130216761,130226323,2017-06-16 20:20:55,">>130226122 Do you not have an answer for my question? It's ok if you don't, friend.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644455 130216761,130226384,2017-06-16 20:21:33,This thread is an incoherent mess. But God bless you.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497644493 130216761,130226392,2017-06-16 20:21:36,">>130225929 >Should libertarians not protect the environment to ensure their property will last for generations? Yeah that's what people want, to burn down all the trees and pollute the ocean so their children can die in smog. You do realize that cities were fixing the smog problem before the EPA was invented right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644496 130216761,130226439,2017-06-16 20:22:12,">>130225906 >Lol classic meme answer. First off you can't ""just move"". There's taxes, you have to literally ostracize yourself from family, and you're just moving under another government which doesn't acknowledge individual rights. Oh, now you can't move? So you are in your country voluntarily, I assume? And if you are so stingy, the only society that can accommodate you is you living alone in the woods. >you aren't equipped to provide an actual contrary response That must be it. Do you seriously want me to tell you why is it stupid to say your landlord is going to manage your friends and acquaintances?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497644532 130216761,130226447,2017-06-16 20:22:17,">>130226183 You don't think it's wrong for people to kill you, so anyone who doesn't like you might as well do it. It's not wrong so there are no consequences, you'd happily take the bullet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644537 130216761,130226448,2017-06-16 20:22:18,">>130226219 I respect your opinion! It's nice to have an open discussion about differing political views isn't it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644538 130216761,130226466,2017-06-16 20:22:30,">>130226323 Va poster ailleurs sous-homme de niqueur d'arbres",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644550 130216761,130226471,2017-06-16 20:22:36,">>130225434 >Unleash the McNukes fuck your lame ass larping. you're not serious. >>130225631 >quoting Rothbard >fake libertarian fuck off idiot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644556 130216761,130226635,2017-06-16 20:24:15,">>130226447 I never said I don't think it's wrong. I said I'd love to hear the justification for it, first. You seem to be very focused on this killing thing, remember it's important to be happy in life and not so focused on negativity! There is a lot of beauty in life, my friend...enjoy it!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644655 130216761,130226693,2017-06-16 20:24:54,">>130226439 >Oh, now you can't move? So you are in your country voluntarily, I assume? And if you are so stingy, the only society that can accommodate you is you living alone in the woods. >blah blah sheep memes that libertarians laugh about all the time >Do you seriously want me to tell you why is it stupid to say your landlord is going to manage your friends and acquaintances? I dunno, my landlord prohibits degeneracy on property, kicks out unruly tenants, and people who commit crimes aren't allowed. Also the cost of my rent prevents riffraff and idiots from living in my community. It's nice having a private tennis court and swimming pool. :^)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644694 130216761,130226773,2017-06-16 20:25:36,">>130224786 Conservatism in the United States. Forever giving ground, never taking unless it's brought kicking and screaming into a new, populist manner.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644736 130216761,130226786,2017-06-16 20:25:44,">>130226448 Sure is, pal. :)",,Anonymous,1453335900106.gif,BnVRbKNedR5lvj6I5KgGmw==,,,1497644744 130216761,130226812,2017-06-16 20:26:03,">>130226219 >Like you know. People do drive to work you know? So you can live in one place. And work elsewhere. Weird concept, I know. Assuming the communities are actually not shunning each other. So, if they're not, and you can simply drive to wherever you want, what's really the point about them being divided again? >They could pool defense resources. meaningless blabber >Cool. More choice. hahaha >The whole interaction would be a lot more streamlined. Yes, there are 50000C2 possible interactions. Very streamlined.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497644763 130216761,130226844,2017-06-16 20:26:22,">>130226635 >I never said I don't think it's wrong. WHOA Glad we agree now, you finally admitted there is right and wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644782 130216761,130226928,2017-06-16 20:27:19,">>130226844 Key word being ""I"", friend ;) hence my subjective view",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644839 130216761,130226961,2017-06-16 20:27:44,"We should start an anti-communist paramilitary. Kinda like the British Blackshirts, except we aren't exclusively Fascist or statist. We need to start designing anti-communist memes and discuss locations where we can organize the paramilitary.",,Anonymous,kermit the commie killer.png,Xxy7Vt4cJCdkXKff0iTJEA==,,,1497644864 130216761,130226984,2017-06-16 20:28:03,">>130226693 And your landlord will also tell you with whom you should interact more often to get that juicy promotion you are looking after. In fact, he will organize a dinner between you two because he loves his tenants so much.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497644883 130216761,130227014,2017-06-16 20:28:27,">>130226961 k fbi",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644907 130216761,130227040,2017-06-16 20:28:40,">>130226313 Because this is what separates us from them. I'm all in for defensive measures, arming everyone etc, but attacking first is not something we must do, as that would make us monsters we fight against. >>130226471 Nukes are against states that may attack Ancapistani. Against individual opponents, drones and arming everyone. I'm dead serious, this is THE ONLY way freedom can be achieved. >>130226773 Counterpoint: conservatism in Russia. Same family values, leads to shit. Anyway, bye everyone, nice discussion, but I must sleep. Sinceresly, your Russian-degenerate-AnCap anon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644920 130216761,130227050,2017-06-16 20:28:48,">>130226961 You're off to a great start with that image from a children's television show!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644928 130216761,130227123,2017-06-16 20:29:30,">>130225634 Everything i don't like is jewish : Political guide 101 to internet discussion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497644970 130216761,130227212,2017-06-16 20:30:23,">>130227040 Paka moi lyubimi degenerat Horosho viydet ruskih",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645023 130216761,130227238,2017-06-16 20:30:41,">>130226984 >And your landlord will also tell you with whom you should interact more often to get that juicy promotion you are looking after. In fact, he will organize a dinner between you two because he loves his tenants so much. Are you deliberately being obtuse or are you too stupid to actually reason your way through this? I have a feeling you're taking what I'm saying *way* too literally. Like are you unable to actually to realize I didn't mean the landlord micromanages relationships. Like really, are you a retard?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645041 130216761,130227320,2017-06-16 20:31:34,">>130227040 shut up already. you're a fucking pussy, calling me a fascist for thinking we should deal with the communists rioting and causing worldwide and going on to larp about nukes. lurk more or fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645094 130216761,130227369,2017-06-16 20:31:55,">>130227320 >causing violence worldwide.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645115 130216761,130227409,2017-06-16 20:32:23,">>130227050 It penetrates people the deepest. If we turn childhood icons into anti-communist symbols, we strike the masses right inna heart. Kermit would be a good start considering he's already a meme, and we can create a large-scale anti-Marxist meme, since Marxist memes have inadvertently gotten teens to think being communist is cool.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645143 130216761,130227448,2017-06-16 20:32:52,">>130227238 You are the one who didn't understand what I said before replying ""landlords"". And, yes, I'm being ironic (lol)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497645172 130216761,130227717,2017-06-16 20:35:46,">>130227409 Do you really think there is a legitimate communist threat in America?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645346 130216761,130227848,2017-06-16 20:37:13,">>130226812 >Assuming the communities are actually not shunning each other. Why would 50000 communities all shun each other? That's ridiculous. >what's really the point about them being divided again Decentralization so people can make a choice of living that they want. It's not about separation. Also I can easily just turn your argument around. Why can't all these communities co-exist peacefully when they can do so under one country already? And that's with the added inconvenience of actually being ruled by people that don't share their views. >meaningless blabber >hahaha Pic related. >Yes, there are 50000C2 possible interactions. Very streamlined. >ignoring the bit about not being conventional states And even with that. There's free travel between existing states of the EU already. So why wouldn't these communities want such an arrangement? If you want to be such an asshole that you can't work with anybody, that's your loss. Most people I imagine would get along just fine.",,Anonymous,Moly not an argument.jpg,g4+vjwpk0JfB0g4vG5A7Cg==,,,1497645433 130216761,130227873,2017-06-16 20:37:33,">>130227717 yes I can call people Communists in public and nobody bats an eye, yet if I call someone a Nazi it's an insult. There's a bias. It exists. McCarthy was right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497645453 130216761,130227937,2017-06-16 20:38:14,">>130227448 Because I gave you the benefit of the doubt of not being a retard. Because I read back what was said and I NEVER ONCE said what you somehow gleaned from the conversation. In the future, perhaps you should actually engage with what people ACTUALLY SAY and not have an argument with stuff you make up. To me you're just a disingenuous moron. I tried to have a legitimate discussion with you but you seem to here trying to stump people or some shit. Guess what friend, I see you as the sheep fraud you are. You probably haven't self-reflected once in your life about what happens around you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645494 130216761,130228014,2017-06-16 20:39:02,">>130227717 Absolutely.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645542 130216761,130228158,2017-06-16 20:40:39,">>130227937 he's been consistently btfo earlier and even in the last thread. I take it he enjoys looking like a fool in public, like some kind of online exhibitionist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497645639 130216761,130228203,2017-06-16 20:41:04,">>130227848 >Why can't all these communities co-exist peacefully when they can do so under one country already? American Civil War, 1861. Check it out. >not an argument I could say the same thing. Pool defense resources is not an argument. >There's free travel between existing states of the EU already Yes, and contrary to what you might think, it is a bureaucratic mess. And that's 28C2. Add now a few thousand.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497645664 130216761,130228266,2017-06-16 20:41:39,">>130227937 I'm going to be cheeky like you guys like to be and say ""not an argument"".",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497645699 130216761,130228351,2017-06-16 20:42:30,">>130227873 Can you provide some factual evidence, other than what you ""feel"" based upon your experiences trying to interact with well-adjusted people?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645750 130216761,130228497,2017-06-16 20:43:59,">>130228351 I take it you've never been to a university or school before. Says a lot about you, actually",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497645839 130216761,130228520,2017-06-16 20:44:17,">>130228158 You haven't answered a single point I've raised. You just cling on assuming perfect contracts and free information, as if that's how humans behave. That's simply naive for someone powerless like yourselves but actually dangerous for a political activist, given how he's actively aiming to bring down long-standing and good enough institutions.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497645857 130216761,130228577,2017-06-16 20:44:57,">>130228266 oh lolol you sure showed me Go run off now and talk about how cool you are with your other 16 year old friends. You sure showed those AnCaps how stupid they are. :^) :^)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497645897 130216761,130228700,2017-06-16 20:46:07,">>130228577 I don't need to show you anything. You showed it yourself.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497645967 130216761,130228850,2017-06-16 20:47:46,">>130228520 >You haven't answered a single point I've raised. like what? >WHY CAN'T MY FAGGOT SON BE DEGENERATE IN PUBLIC WITHOUT GETTING KICKED OUT I already answered it. You're a horrible father and should rightfully be excused from the community elsewhere, alone with the son. There is no contradiction anywhere whatsoever, the people that tolerate degeneracy will be in their own little corners to rot in peace without welfare to keep them afloat. >assuming perfect contracts and free information never said that try again bucko :^)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497646066 130216761,130228854,2017-06-16 20:47:49,">>130228497 Thank you for deflecting and not providing any evidence. You really strengthened your case there!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497646069 130216761,130228949,2017-06-16 20:48:40,">>130228520 No one should take you seriously. You inject strawmans and inject nonsense and then try to play gotcha games. You're disingenuous. What makes me happy is people like you often die with dementia because their brains often blur fabrications with reality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497646120 130216761,130228969,2017-06-16 20:48:50,">>130228854 yeah man let me just prove that water is wet real quick xdddd",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497646130 130216761,130229057,2017-06-16 20:49:37,">>130228203 >American Civil War, 1861 Oh a state refusing to relinquish control and not letting them secede. Full retard ""argument"". >Pool defense resources is not an argument It is because it's more efficient so it would likely be done. Oh and screaming not an argument at just anything is you know...not an argument. >it is a bureaucratic mess That's because of regulations. Why would an ancap society feature bureucratic regulations? So dumb. In fact it's just added pressure to reduce regulation the more of these communities you have. Win win.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497646177 130216761,130229136,2017-06-16 20:50:34,">>130228700 I know, I vetted you through this thread and have shown you to be a disingenuous fraud who isn't here to have a legitimate conversation. At best you're a troll but that really isn't much of an honor. What would be really tragic is if you actually thought you *were* engaging in legitimate discussion at which point I would suggest you seek mental help.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497646234 130216761,130229238,2017-06-16 20:51:41,">>130228850 >never said that That's why you are assuming it. The first part of this comment means you are assuming it. You are an idiot. My whole point of the degenerate son is to show you how any contract is imperfect, to be revisable/negotiated later. That's why any bullshit about rules defined a priori will not stand, and there will always be political infighting within these communes. In other words, you will simply bring down the current institutions to put a retarded copy of them that, if working properly, will build the exact same kind of society.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497646301 130216761,130229553,2017-06-16 20:54:49,"http://archive.is/KrIzj Why do left-libertarians continue to think that we should associate with totalitarian, communist nations? Just because the state should not exist does not mean that there is no state. We should want the state to resemble a libertarian society as much as possible, which means dissociating from communists. Why does Reason not get this?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497646489 130216761,130229608,2017-06-16 20:55:32,">>130229057 >Full retard ""argument"". not an argument >Oh and screaming not an argument at just anything is you know...not an argument. the irony >It is because it's more efficient so it would likely be done explain. >Why would an ancap society feature bureucratic regulations? Because any community needs rules? You said it yourself before lol You are going to need to manage someway of integrating all these 50000 rules to have people, goods and factors moving between places, otherwise you'll have transaction costs beyond belief, and the economy of this region will be completely inefficient. And that's, of course, only if you want interaction between them.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497646532 130216761,130229671,2017-06-16 20:56:11,">>130229238 Your flaw is you think today's society is actually working. >rampant poverty >violence, rape, murder >insolvent governments You realize that Portugal is literally this close to collapsing? You have a 129% debt to GDP. Like holy shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497646571 130216761,130229715,2017-06-16 20:56:39,">>130229136 You are just copping out because you misinterpreted what I've said lol But keep on claiming bullshit about me. I'm sure you saying it makes it true.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497646599 130216761,130229828,2017-06-16 20:57:50,">>130221998 Someone steals my window I'm going to shoot them.",,Anonymous,Texas.jpg,R0NuPGlQd4OM/+QB0TZv3g==,,,1497646670 130216761,130229966,2017-06-16 20:59:21,">>130229553 Im pretty suspicious that reason is globalists jew funded bullshit. Anyway you're absolutely right. the state should act as genuine property owners but left-libertarians think anything short of abolishing the state is fascism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497646761 130216761,130229995,2017-06-16 20:59:37,">>130229238 >That's why you are assuming it. so you're assuming I'm assuming? lmfao >My whole point of the degenerate son is to show you how any contract is imperfect, to be revisable/negotiated later how is that imperfect? you discuss and negotiate contracts, that's the point and whole idea of AnCap instead of having a contract forced down your throat. Have a homo kid in a no-homo private community? well obviously you must have known the rules beforehand by living there and would discourage homos in your family, but if he's a real faggot and can't control himself you've now gotta work a deal with the private property owners for a clean and peaceful way out. Gonna guess that homo kid can stay as long as he doesn't express any faggotry in public, otherwise at adult age he is told to peacefully leave. Dad can give him money to be on his way to go fag-friendly communities. However, if the father insists on him to stay despite breaking contract his entire family is now on the line or else he too is physically removed. Decisions, choices, and consequences. Learn them, nigger >there will always be political infighting within these communes nice assumption >will build the exact same kind of society. it will build a far superior society",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497646777 130216761,130230049,2017-06-16 21:00:11,">>130229715 I misinterpreted the literal fabrication you made of what I said. You see, I was residing in reality where I read and understand the words typed at me. You live in a reality where you inject your opinions onto what other people write and then you argue against those injections and then further pretend like you're actually doing a good job at debating. You're really just a dumb faggot. But I understand, you're pretty invested in the general lie statists make up because realizing the truth will probably fuck you up mentally (outside what you already are). Pretty blue pill if you ask me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497646811 130216761,130230084,2017-06-16 21:00:32,">>130229671 >rampant poverty How does ancap solve this? Is removing welfare your magic wand? Poverty will still be there m8. The problem is the people. >violence, rape, murder Again, the people. >insolvent governments This has to do precisely with the issues on information I'm raising. If your assumptions were true, every government would work perfectly because it would be costless to monitor it, just like it is costless to agree on some bullshit society and perfect rules everybody is going to agree with full knowledge of all the implications and not change minds later whilst still wanting to keep living in the same place.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497646832 130216761,130230379,2017-06-16 21:03:05,">>130229995 >you must have known the rules beforehand by living there This sentence is you assuming perfect contracts/perfect information. There is no way you will ever guarantee this in any society. I'm sorry humans are not of your liking. I don't give a fuck about the homo kid.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497646985 130216761,130230415,2017-06-16 21:03:26,">>130224840 I did for many years, it was a waste of time for everyone involved. Therapy can only help you if you want to change. If you've already accepted who you are, it's too late.",,Anonymous,it's too late.gif,zazoiRTGhr/NTRw70v83ZA==,US,,1497647006 130216761,130230748,2017-06-16 21:06:44,"“If your brother becomes poor and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall support him as though he were a stranger and a sojourner, and he shall live with you. Take no interest from him or profit, but fear your God, that your brother may live beside you. You shall not lend him your money at interest, nor give him your food for profit. Leviticus 25:35-37",,Anonymous,,,,,1497647204 130216761,130230805,2017-06-16 21:07:21,">>130227717 I don't think that theirs Reds that will be able to take over though that still could happen, what I worry is that the state keeps moving to the left which will lead to socialism/communism.",,Anonymous,Ancap_11.jpg,TkjCxq3qluZeq3cYMQxEhw==,,,1497647241 130216761,130230890,2017-06-16 21:08:05,">>130230049 I said today it's much harder to track reputation. You said it's not needed, and landlords and bankers would do it. I can partly agree on the first point because that's what the state and our monetary system is there for. The second is retarded because you're living out many relationships and many types of interactions. Again, you're copping out.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497647285 130216761,130230949,2017-06-16 21:08:35,">>130230084 >How does ancap solve this? Is removing welfare your magic wand? no welfare means people have to actually *gasp* work for a living. No taxes and no regulations means more business from easier startups, meaning more employment opportunities to get out of poverty all while making prices cheaper for everybody from free competition. Removing welfare does so much in the long run >Poverty will still be there m8. The problem is the people. Poverty is there for those choosing to keep themselves in poverty. There is no problem with people, the only problem is in government. >>130230379 >This sentence is you assuming perfect contracts/perfect information are you illiterate? this is a piece of paper. It tells you what's ok and not ok. Do the things that's not ok and there's gonna be problems, so don't do them. Sign here if you agree with that. It's not rocket science m8 >There is no way you will ever guarantee this in any society. record keeping? paper? computers? are you this stupid? >I don't give a fuck about the homo kid. suuuure, despite your adamant defense of them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497647315 130216761,130231075,2017-06-16 21:09:45,">>130230084 >How does ancap solve this? Is removing welfare your magic wand? Poverty will still be there m8. The problem is the people. Poverty exists as it does because of government subsidies. Look it up. >Again, the people. We live in a society where the initiation of violence is normalized. Further, much like most government institutions, there is no actual incentive to reduce crime to a point where the police is no longer necessary (or can be reduced). It's always more, more, more. >This has to do precisely with the issues on information I'm raising. If your assumptions were true, every government would work perfectly because it would be costless to monitor it, just like it is costless to agree on some bullshit society and perfect rules everybody is going to agree with full knowledge of all the implications and not change minds later whilst still wanting to keep living in the same place. What that fuck are you even saying. That had nothing to do with what I said. The correct answer would be: current governments are spending themselves into oblivion and you wouldn't have this problem in Ancapistan because there is NO FUCKING GOVERNMENT TO SPEND ITSELF INTO OBLIVION. In case that wasn't clear. I know you have a habit of making shit up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497647385 130216761,130231092,2017-06-16 21:09:56,">>130230748 I don't see The part where I must be robbed by The government",,Anonymous,,,,,1497647396 130216761,130231161,2017-06-16 21:10:49,">>130222502 I have compassion for my fellow man, which is why I respect his boundaries and wish to let them live the way they want to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497647449 130216761,130231201,2017-06-16 21:11:12,">>130229608 Christ you're a moron. >You said it yourself before I didn't. Not about free trade anyway. And I don't see why you would turn away every visitor unless they're from a community you have no wish of interacting with. Which would be very rare. >You are going to need to manage someway of integrating all these 50000 rules to have people, goods and factors moving between places Free trade. Solved. And again because you're stupid. Precisely because it would turn very costly communities would keep regulations to a minimum. >rest of the post Garbage.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497647472 130216761,130231356,2017-06-16 21:12:54,">>130230949 >no welfare, no taxes, no regulations would paradise >Poverty is there for those choosing to keep themselves in poverty. nice hypothesis you got there >this is a piece of paper. It tells you what's ok and not ok. You truly don't get it. Dear God. Again, have you ever signed a contract in your life? You said yes, but your answers suggest the opposite. And, worse, you're talking about an agreement that's effectively akin to a constitution. >record keeping? paper? computers? are you this stupid? It's like you're assuming there isn't a whole discipline called Law, whose entire goal is to solve all the problems you're assuming away. >suuuure, despite your adamant defense of them read again. My point about the homo kid is on unpredictability. If you don't think that was the point, again: read again.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497647574 130216761,130231408,2017-06-16 21:13:32,">>130228969 The impetus is on you to provide the evidence that communism is an active threat to the United States, since you issued the proclamation. I'll wait here, for your evidence...otherwise, you're just another useful idiot fighting an imaginary enemy",,Anonymous,,,,,1497647612 130216761,130231568,2017-06-16 21:15:02,">>130231075 >Poverty exists as it does because of government subsidies. Look it up. >there is no actual incentive to reduce crime to a point where the police is no longer necessary (or can be reduced) nice hypothesis you got there >Ancapistan because there is NO FUCKING GOVERNMENT TO SPEND ITSELF INTO OBLIVION Sure, there is no government. All those rules and agreements, and strict enforcement in a very tight community. And all the people would have the time and willingness to participate in all disputes. It's like they wouldn't delegate them to 3rd parties or something.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497647702 130216761,130231864,2017-06-16 21:17:58,">>130231092 Without a goverment the heretics who break these rules would be able to get away from their social duties",,Anonymous,,,,,1497647878 130216761,130231880,2017-06-16 21:18:11,">>130231201 >Free trade. Free trade is removing all barriers to trade. Having wildly different legislations is a barrier to trade. >Garbage. Lol, you say a bunch of groundless crap, I point that out, and you claim I said garbage. Really makes me think.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497647891 130216761,130231921,2017-06-16 21:18:40,">>130231408 >amount of communist revolutions since the beginning of the 20th century proves ""it can't happen to us"" to be wrong. >socialist policies being overwhelmingly popular in the US. Is that enough evidence?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497647920 130216761,130231923,2017-06-16 21:18:42,">>130231356 >nice hypothesis you got there read a book, nigger >You truly don't get it. Dear God. Again, have you ever signed a contract in your life? You said yes, but your answers suggest the opposite. And, worse, you're talking about an agreement that's effectively akin to a constitution. maybe you're the one who doesn't get it because you can't explain for shit what you're actually talking about. Private living agreements are not national constitutions, good god are you mental? >It's like you're assuming there isn't a whole discipline called Law, whose entire goal is to solve all the problems you're assuming away. you're the one assuming private law conveniently doesn't exist >My point about the homo kid is on unpredictability unpredictability that is still addressed and resolved peacefully. Your point is just nonsense and isn't any real critique of anything >>130231568 >It's like they wouldn't delegate them to 3rd parties or something. and that 3rd party is a private entity dumbass",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497647922 130216761,130231988,2017-06-16 21:19:17,">>130231921 it's not evidence unless I agree with it >:^)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497647957 130216761,130232162,2017-06-16 21:21:00,">>130230890 >Again, you're copping out. No I'm not. I gave you one example, not the ONLY example. You tried to prove me wrong by saying that we don't manage reputation personally. I countered by saying we still do, but we mostly outsource today like to our landlord. This doesn't include other entities that may have an interest in reputation management such as police, insurance companies, employers and of course, people who care about who/what they interact with. And I shouldn't have to explicitly say this. >I said today it's much harder to track reputation. You said it's not needed, and landlords and bankers would do it. You're making this too complicated. There's not enough value to personally track everyone because society is mostly safe and 3rd parties are still doing it behind the scenes. I can trust my neighborhood because my landlord acts with discretion. >The second is retarded because you're living out many relationships and many types of interactions. Because this is absolutely irrelevant to anything. No one is stopping you from going to the store or making friends. But I guarantee you if you're a thief they'll use face detection against you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497648060 130216761,130232182,2017-06-16 21:21:13,">>130231921 Which ""socialist"" policies, in particular, are you referring to friend? Actual, enacted policies? What communist revolutions have occurred in the last two decades and why are there so few? It's not because it's not a legitimate threat, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497648073 130216761,130232592,2017-06-16 21:25:17,">>130231568 >nice hypothesis you got there Come back when you actually read some academic papers on the toxicity of welfare subsidies. You can argue me on the merits then, at this point you're just ignorant. Basically you're arguing against the theory that ""people act in their own interest based on incentives"" which is pretty funny. >Sure, there is no government. All those rules and agreements, and strict enforcement in a very tight community. And all the people would have the time and willingness to participate in all disputes. It's like they wouldn't delegate them to 3rd parties or something. 3rd parties they voluntarily chosen. Not 3rd parties arbitrarily assigned to them based on geographic boundaries and forced on them essentially at the point of a gun.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497648317 130216761,130232628,2017-06-16 21:25:39,">>130232182 >socialized healthcare is extremely popular >income tax >minimum wage >equal pay act >civil rights act >free college being popular that's six examples; do you want more?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497648339 130216761,130232649,2017-06-16 21:25:56,">>130231923 >read a book, nigger I'd say the same thing, curiously. And I'd actually ask to read some papers on economics. But you probably don't believe it because you are too smart for those shills. >Private living agreements are not national constitutions In the specific case you're talking about of ancap societies, yes, they are. >private law Yes, all law is private law hahaha >and that 3rd party is a private entity dumbass that's irrelevant. you can think of the government today as being a private entity too using that framework",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497648356 130216761,130232807,2017-06-16 21:27:33,,,Anonymous,snekwaev.jpg,1qSy3cu7jhGbc+bn7WsFuQ==,AU,,1497648453 130216761,130232855,2017-06-16 21:28:07,">>130232649 >In the specific case you're talking about of ancap societies, yes, they are. nice semantics game >Yes, all law is private law hahaha never said that either lmao >you can think of the government today as being a private entity >government, a public entity, is actually a private entity full retard my man, try again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497648487 130216761,130233017,2017-06-16 21:29:50,">>130231880 >groundless crap No you provided a shitty argument I pointed out WHY and you dodged the point. You're an idiot. >Having wildly different legislations Fuck you're retarded. Then they would structure it in a way that wasn't impeding trade. When you have so much competition between states that moving from one to another is incredibly easy, you can't just create a bureaucratic state. Also this imo shouldn't be considered ancap, I'm just defending a decentralized system of states now. An ancap system would have free trade.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497648590 130216761,130233089,2017-06-16 21:30:32,">>130232649 >And I'd actually ask to read some papers on economics I'd make a bet that I've read more economics papers than you have. And I also make a bet I have a better grasp on socialist and libertarian economic theory than you do.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497648632 130216761,130233266,2017-06-16 21:32:24,">>130232592 >Come back when you actually read some academic papers on the toxicity of welfare subsidies. You can argue me on the merits then, at this point you're just ignorant. Yes, let's assume the other side is ignorant. That'll work. >Basically you're arguing against the theory that ""people act in their own interest based on incentives"" I'm arguing people are not rational, especially because they can't handle information the way basic economic models assume they can. And that's exactly what you see often: the incentive is there, but nothing changes. Why? Because the person doesn't even know about it. Why? Because information is not costless. >3rd parties they voluntarily chosen no one cares about the parties but about the rules. The rules you're talking about are still based on pointing a gun. Nothing changed. You just private enforcers (and I'm assuming there is no problem here).",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497648744 130216761,130233374,2017-06-16 21:33:38,">>130232855 You just backed down on everything you said, then. You don't think through the implications of what you say. This is getting annoying.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497648818 130216761,130233684,2017-06-16 21:37:19,">>130233374 >You just backed down on everything you said, then. like what? everything I've been saying is consistent and valid >You don't think through the implications of what you say. such as? go on. I'll wait. You're like a punching bag just itching to get whammed time and time again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497649039 130216761,130233707,2017-06-16 21:37:41,">>130233017 >Then they would structure it in a way that wasn't impeding trade. >would do you even know what you're saying? You say ""fuck off, you're retarded"" and then repeat the same thing I said lol Why are you assuming production has no standards, no rules whatsoever? You don't even need the state for this. The firms if large enough have an incentive to standardize their products and methods of production to ease trade and movement of people and factors. That's why most of it is not even done today. Then, you're ignoring the issue of externalities where firms have no incentives to do anything if the other parties are decentralized. >An ancap system would have free trade. >Free trade is all about no quotas and no tariffs.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497649061 130216761,130233751,2017-06-16 21:38:08,">>130233089 I'd bet you don't, actually.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497649088 130216761,130233897,2017-06-16 21:39:43,">>130233707 >Free trade is all about no quotas and no tariffs. *no central government-enforced quotas and tariffs fixed that for you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497649183 130216761,130233931,2017-06-16 21:40:03,">>130233684 Why are not the agreements to form an ancap society not going to literally follow the precepts of constitutional law?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497649203 130216761,130233990,2017-06-16 21:40:39,">>130233897 it's wrong, anyway free trade is about removing barriers to trade - all of them.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497649239 130216761,130234075,2017-06-16 21:41:41,">>130233931 >>130233684 did a double negative there by mistake, but I think you got it",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497649301 130216761,130234132,2017-06-16 21:42:15,">>130233266 >Yes, let's assume the other side is ignorant. That'll work. You've proven you were ignorant by the arguments you make. Anyone who isn't a fool can see. >I'm arguing people are not rational, especially because they can't handle information the way basic economic models assume they can. And that's exactly what you see often: the incentive is there, but nothing changes. Why? Because the person doesn't even know about it. Why? Because information is not costless. You mean how people purposely get welfare entitlements by not working a certain number of hours because the benefits are worth more than the money the more hours would make them. I literally saw this happen first hand at a job when someone was collecting social security benefits, they refused to work more than a certain number of hours a month.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497649335 130216761,130234192,2017-06-16 21:42:57,">>130233751 Really because you sound like a fucking moron based on the interactions you've been having in this thread.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497649377 130216761,130234259,2017-06-16 21:43:40,">>130233931 because it's done locally and privately, enforced the same way, instead of a state like what constitutional law normally entails. That's the beauty of private law; flexibility is there >>130233990 yeah and anarchy is actually about removing hierarchy - all of them nice semantics game again btw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497649420 130216761,130234424,2017-06-16 21:45:41,"why the fuck do we call ourselves ""anarcho-capitalists""? I hate communists, but they do have a point when they say that it's an oxymoron.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497649541 130216761,130234463,2017-06-16 21:46:05,">>130234132 >You mean how people purposely get welfare entitlements by not working a certain number of hours because the benefits are worth more than the money the more hours would make them. That's not poverty for them though. And that's the argument you're making: that welfare perpetuates poverty. You do have that and that's abusing the welfare system, not perpetuating poverty. >Anyone who isn't a fool can see. Perhaps it takes a fool not to see it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497649565 130216761,130234534,2017-06-16 21:46:47,">>130234192 >everyone who doesn't agree with me is a moron >meanwhile, I will continue pretending I know anything about economics whilst I base an entire economic system on the reality of perfect information ffs",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497649607 130216761,130234777,2017-06-16 21:49:43,">>130234259 >nice semantics game again btw where are the semantics? Don't you know what trade barriers are? Do you know what governments are even doing when they take fucking decades to sign a free trade agreement? Do you think current free trade agreements are merely setting up privileges for different companies? They aren't: governments are actively shilling for companies to standardize everything they do, so that an European company can easily open shop in the US and sell crap to americans without you even noticing the company is European. This has nothing to do with quotas, tariffs or even government regulations. The latter only come in for externalities and the like because firms have no incentive to abide by those rules.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497649783 130216761,130234804,2017-06-16 21:50:04,">>130233707 >repeat the same thing I said .... I said that even if a small state decides to have regulations it would hardly have an effect on trade you said it would be a bureaucratic nightmare. How the fuck is this repeating your point you utter moron? And it's just mind boggling that you would think bureaucracy is an argument against a libertarian system. Just what are you smoking? >Why are you assuming production has no standards, no rules whatsoever? Where the fuck did I say that? >You don't even need the state for this. Glad we agree. >An ancap system would have free trade. >Free trade is all about no quotas and no tariffs. Your point?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497649804 130216761,130235014,2017-06-16 21:52:23,">>130234424 it's only an oxymoron if you use their definitions. Anarchy just means no central government, and capitalism is obviously the means of how resources are managed. With that in mind, it's pretty self-explanatory. The same meme can be used on communists regarding Anarcho-Communism, which can be interpreted as a contradictory oxymoron if you use the Ancap definitions as no central state = no forced redistribution of resources. They'll go on and on about their convoluted systems redefining property again to what's convenient for them like ""personal"", ""public"", and ""private"" property but it's all the same mental gymnastics. Ancap is just the more streamlined intuitive option as far as any anarchy system goes",,Anonymous,1494023256160.png,RYaT4fFYY+vx3eFWKAPOeg==,US,,1497649943 130216761,130235172,2017-06-16 21:54:08,">>130234804 >I said that even if a small state decides to have regulations... No, you said ""they would structure it in a way that wasn't impeding trade"", which is the vaguest possible way of saying what I said. >you would think bureaucracy is an argument against a libertarian system firms need rules too. firms benefit from standardizing rules. sometimes firms don't standardize because each of them is too small so you need someone to pay the initial cost of quick starting the whole process. That's the state, that's exactly what happens. They standardize. Trading between countries becomes easier. >An ancap system would have free trade. >Free trade is all about no quotas and no tariffs. The second sentence is false. I'm claiming you're assuming it to be true.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497650048 130216761,130235325,2017-06-16 21:55:54,">>130234777 and what's your point? everything you've said can still come naturally without government though. This standardization flows similarly to how people already adopt globally-recognized languages like English without their state forcing them because it helps business. A government is not needed, despite how much it may try to shill itself a false sense of importance",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497650154 130216761,130235424,2017-06-16 21:56:59,">>130234424 anarchy means ""no rulers"" Commies think that means no hierarchy/no inequality We think it means no enslavement/no coercion. non-aggression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497650219 130216761,130235593,2017-06-16 21:58:47,">>130235325 >everything you've said can still come naturally without government though for some industries, yes; for some industries, no. It depends mainly on the technological structure of the industry. You don't intervene when they do it by themselves, but you do when they don't. Guess what: it's what happens today. And in the second case, the firms get on it willingly; and, no, they're not receiving handouts.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497650327 130216761,130235742,2017-06-16 22:00:29,">>130235172 >they would structure it in a way that wasn't impeding trade >wildly different legislation Fucking idiot. >Trading between countries becomes easier. So that it passes regulation. If there's little or no regulations in these countries what's the point of the government telling these small companies what or how they should produce? >I'm claiming you're assuming it to be true. Most infuriating poster ever. 10/10 if troll.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497650429 130216761,130236010,2017-06-16 22:03:26,Helicopters are a Good Opition for Physical Removal,,Brazilian With Pride,FB_IMG_1497462466390.jpg,mohRVm/XGPp0REeMvKWylQ==,BR,,1497650606 130216761,130236014,2017-06-16 22:03:29,">>130235014 anarchy literally means ""without hierarchy."" Private property is hierarchical nature. For example, if you are on someone's property, you have to follow their rules and their will. This is a hierarchical structure that's inherent in property rights. Libertarians don't actually argue against hierarchy; we argue for hierarchy when it comes to property rights. Hopefully you don't misunderstand me; I don't think the state is legitimate, but I don't think ""anarchist"" is the proper term we should be using.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497650609 130216761,130236119,2017-06-16 22:04:34,">>130235593 >for some industries, yes; for some industries, no. nah, it applies all industries. The state just plays favorites to pander to special interests. If a business couldn't compete, it dies so one actually can -- hence why some already do it. The state however, organizes these regulations and rules in the instances where it does act to keep their buddies happy from lobbying so hard >no, they're not receiving handouts. pftt ahahaha yeah ok",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497650674 130216761,130236149,2017-06-16 22:04:48,">>130235742 >they would structure it in a way that wasn't impeding trade >wildly different legislation That's why I said you said the same thing I said. Note the second quote came before the first one. You're the idiot. >government telling these small companies what or how they should produce? Not what, but how. And the point is that you are minimizing the costs of entry in foreign markets. And the government doesn't need to force anything. It quick starts the whole process for industries which don't do it by themselves. And, yes, that's a thing no matter how much your ideology does not like it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497650688 130216761,130236283,2017-06-16 22:06:36,">>130235424 the root word of ""anarchy"" is ""hierarchy"", and the prefix is ""an"", which means ""without."" I hate to say it, but their definition is correct. They're just mistaken in assuming hierarchy is a bad thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497650796 130216761,130236320,2017-06-16 22:07:02,">>130236119 You live in the world of basic microeconomic models. That's why the world seems much simpler to you. It would be, I agree with you, but only if those models were true in any fashion, which they are not. That's probably why you should be reading actual economics books instead of economics in prose written by 2nd rate intellectuals.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497650822 130216761,130236328,2017-06-16 22:07:05,">>130236014 >anarchy literally means ""without hierarchy."" like I said, it also means ""without government"" too. At this point it simply goes to preference and opinion to how one interprets the word, but I think Anarcho-Capitalism is self-evident enough given proper context",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497650825 130216761,130236581,2017-06-16 22:09:44,">>130236320 >You live in the world of basic microeconomic models. how so? >That's why the world seems much simpler to you. except that I never said the world is simple >only if those models were true in any fashion, which they are not. >government doesn't make laws that benefit special interest ever >buyouts, bailouts, subsidies, literally state-sponsored and state-supported industries are all myths trust me this is why I can't take you seriously >That's probably why you should be reading actual economics books instead of economics in prose written by 2nd rate intellectuals. nice assumptions faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497650984 130216761,130236933,2017-06-16 22:13:20,">>130236149 >Note the second quote came before the first one I'm well aware of that you autistic retard. >It quick starts the whole process for industries which don't do it by themselves. I'll take the proven overall productivity of the free market that isn't hampered by bureaucrats over some silly quick-starting process.",,Anonymous,Baided.jpg,4CBIkgVmTpy38XodTpQJEg==,,,1497651200 130216761,130236944,2017-06-16 22:13:28,">>130236283 -archy >word-forming element meaning ""rule,"" from Latin -archia, from Greek -arkhia ""rule,"" from arkhos ""leader, chief, ruler,"" from arkhe ""beginning, origin, first place"" (see archon). do you have a citation for an etymology that differs from this? http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=-archy",,Anonymous,,,,,1497651208 130216761,130237071,2017-06-16 22:14:49,">>130236581 >how so? you: ""nah, it applies all industries."" >government doesn't make laws that benefit special interest ever They do. Never said the opposite. That makes it more complicated, m8.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497651289 130216761,130237163,2017-06-16 22:15:43,">>130236933 >I'll take the proven overall productivity of the free market that isn't hampered by bureaucrats over some silly quick-starting process. Then you don't care about efficiency.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497651343 130216761,130237343,2017-06-16 22:17:36,">>130237071 >you: ""nah, it applies all industries."" I'm not wrong. Just because one aspect is simple, doesn't mean as a whole it's still not complicated. Try again >That makes it more complicated, m8. which is why some of that unnecessary complication needs to stop >>130237163 it's inefficient in the long-term because it's forced, rather than an organic development of the market. It's distorting it overall",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497651456 130216761,130237483,2017-06-16 22:18:41,">>130237163 >I'll take the proven overall productivity of the free market >don't care about efficiency Do you even hear yourself? Am I talking to a bot? Are you fuckers that advanced already?",,Anonymous,Bait god.png,CPihj4o6LcTZSYhLY3AmsA==,,,1497651521 130216761,130237523,2017-06-16 22:19:06,">>130236944 I guess I'm wrong; however, we still are arguing for some form of rule. You rule on your property; I rule on mine.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497651546 130260275,130260275,2017-06-17 02:16:45,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - THE DEATH SQUADS NOW HAVE NERVE GAS EDITION,Anonymous,Gas_plebbit_AnCaps.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,IN,,1497665805 130260275,130260301,2017-06-17 02:17:04,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497665824 130260275,130260313,2017-06-17 02:17:23,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497665843 130260275,130260338,2017-06-17 02:17:41,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497665861 130260275,130260353,2017-06-17 02:17:59,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497665879 130260275,130260373,2017-06-17 02:18:16,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497665896 130260275,130260392,2017-06-17 02:18:34,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497665914 130260275,130260484,2017-06-17 02:19:50,">>130260275 not sure I support a poo in the loo being a libertarian like me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497665990 130260275,130260528,2017-06-17 02:20:27,You forgot to change your flag pajeet,,Anonymous,,,,,1497666027 130260275,130260557,2017-06-17 02:20:58,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,cuck.png,aR69U4XaEnD2CeDZn3T4PQ==,,,1497666058 130260275,130260567,2017-06-17 02:21:03,">>130260275 >>130260275 POOO",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497666063 130260275,130260609,2017-06-17 02:21:42,"is it me or has there been a large surge of ancapposting since flags were introduced? not that i'm complaining as an ancap myself, but it's an interesting observation nonetheless. What sucks is that a good chunk of these posts are just strawmans without even a rudimentary of ancap. at least word is getting out so they'll google it I guess",,Anonymous,1497072170896.png,lyh5IgCpgGo0dV7IGx+/kw==,US,,1497666102 130260275,130260628,2017-06-17 02:22:04,">>130260484 >libertarian like me >socialist GAS GAS GAS",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497666124 130260275,130260764,2017-06-17 02:24:11,>>130260557,,Anonymous,lrg_shills.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,IN,,1497666251 130260275,130260843,2017-06-17 02:25:01,"Nazis have books on debating liberals and other leftist scum, do we have one? it would be good for newfags",,Anonymous,,,,,1497666301 130260275,130260903,2017-06-17 02:25:53,"http://s05.flagcounter.com/countries/QSd Explain??",,Anonymous,,,,,1497666353 130260275,130261493,2017-06-17 02:34:08,">>130260903 Explain what?",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1497666848 130260275,130263327,2017-06-17 03:04:20,">10 out of the 16 posts in this thread are OPs. wew lad",,Anonymous,,,,,1497668660 130268916,130268916,2017-06-17 04:40:38,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,LibertarianGeneral2.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,,,1497674438 130268916,130268941,2017-06-17 04:41:06,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,,,,,1497674466 130268916,130268959,2017-06-17 04:41:25,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,,,1497674485 130268916,130268979,2017-06-17 04:41:43,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,,,,,1497674503 130268916,130268999,2017-06-17 04:42:01,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,,,,,1497674521 130268916,130269017,2017-06-17 04:42:19,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,,,,,1497674539 130268916,130269176,2017-06-17 04:44:38,">>130268916 I know you're a poo in the loo pajeet. You made this thread earlier. POO IN IT. YOU WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN A POO",,Anonymous,,,,,1497674678 130268916,130269311,2017-06-17 04:46:55,">>130269176 POO",,Anonymous,Always_an_Indian.jpg,l3qShXymJ5gyURc7fMLvUw==,,,1497674815 130268916,130269419,2017-06-17 04:48:52,">>130268916 The corporations are destroying our liberty. Only way to have liberty is to hand over the means of production to the worker.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497674932 130268916,130269473,2017-06-17 04:49:41,">>130268916 Poo is poo now matter how you dress it",,Anonymous,,,,,1497674981 130268916,130269862,2017-06-17 04:56:53,">>130269473 keep up the POO in it posting fucking indians disgust me! fucking pajeet!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497675413 130268916,130270238,2017-06-17 05:03:16,">>130269419 Wouldn't you say right to self ownership grants more freedom to people than working quotas for a communist system?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497675796 130268916,130273697,2017-06-17 06:04:19,G'day.,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1497428401657.jpg,oFIGfex1RSfk+og+nmW5tQ==,SK,,1497679459 130268916,130274996,2017-06-17 06:30:03,">>130273697 Are you SlovakBro?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497681003 130268916,130275305,2017-06-17 06:36:44,"Website anon here, how is everyone?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497681404 130268916,130275467,2017-06-17 06:39:53,greatest ally,,Anonymous,fascist pepe.jpg,mJryaAthakth6JtrfZUlSA==,,,1497681593 130268916,130276025,2017-06-17 06:50:29,">>130275467 Us bad goys will tear down the opposition. We will destroy them and the survivors will be subjugated from now until the end of time.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,,,1497682229 130268916,130276179,2017-06-17 06:53:10,">>130276025 you have my axe",,Anonymous,feels fascist man.jpg,0r0Q2bi+eJmMjTGF7x7NeA==,,,1497682390 130268916,130276944,2017-06-17 07:07:11,Bump this shit,,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1497683231 130268916,130278057,2017-06-17 07:29:01,B u m p,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497684541 130268916,130278539,2017-06-17 07:37:02,I believe in a road free society.,,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,I71Eo6gzq0qKx5jIHVr5gQ==,US,,1497685022 130337068,130337068,2017-06-17 18:28:22,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,LibertarianGeneral1.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,,,1497724102 130337068,130337157,2017-06-17 18:29:19,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,Degeneracy1.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1497724159 130337068,130337205,2017-06-17 18:29:55,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,Take_Back_Libertarianism.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1497724195 130337068,130337247,2017-06-17 18:30:19,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,Means_to_liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1497724219 130337068,130337277,2017-06-17 18:30:47,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Libertarianism.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1497724247 130337068,130337326,2017-06-17 18:31:28,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,What_Libertarians_Actually_Are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1497724288 130337068,130337441,2017-06-17 18:32:50,">>130337326 >What is Anarcho Capitalism?",,Anonymous,What_is_AnarchoCapitalism.png,j5wbFkPBZ5wTXDso5Ejjxg==,,,1497724370 130337068,130337482,2017-06-17 18:33:17,">>130337326 >What is Right Libertarianism?",,Anonymous,What_is_RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,,,1497724397 130337068,130337921,2017-06-17 18:38:26,Daily reminder ancaps use their autistic ideology as a front for pedophilia,,Anonymous,1496402150581.jpg,NiEWtmQXUh1JYhkW3VxaMg==,,,1497724706 130337068,130337984,2017-06-17 18:39:07,"Hello guys, using malta flag in this thread",,Anonymous,1484430540394.jpg,n9NY85gWvsXzGpRikL5fUw==,,,1497724747 130337068,130338035,2017-06-17 18:39:41,,,Anonymous,Alain de Benoist.jpg,XTYoKYLbgPU+ubbnF+CGgw==,,,1497724781 130337068,130338112,2017-06-17 18:40:24,">>130337921 >Appeal to emotion Can you disprove what he says? Also non-consensual sex is a violation of the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497724824 130337068,130338332,2017-06-17 18:42:39,">>130337984 >when your ideology would work so long as everyone did the right thing but every other ideology doesn't work because humans are corruptible and don't do the right thing because it's against ""human nature"" rlly mks me thnk",,Anonymous,inMsTLgqBqf_MQ6bOELRZFBHT20EHo8hSwUNsmyny8g.jpg,R3Y1krShIYUBMzOuZUHarA==,,,1497724959 130337068,130338498,2017-06-17 18:44:28,">>130338332 >so long as everyone did the right thing In anarcho capitalism the only one who has to do the right thing is you. Dissociation, my friend.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1497725068 130337068,130338513,2017-06-17 18:44:43,">>130338332 >when your ideology would work so long as everyone did the right thing Where did you get this idea? Libertarianism doesn't need people to do the ""right"" thing to work, what succeeds and makes profits is right by definition",,Anonymous,,,,,1497725083 130337068,130338573,2017-06-17 18:45:18,">>130338112 >Parents should have a legal right not to feed their child therefore allowing them to starve to death >You can't argue against this or it's an appeal to emotion Please be trolling >captcha select all images with roads",,Anonymous,,,,,1497725118 130337068,130338638,2017-06-17 18:46:01,">>130337921 >>130338332 >>130338035 Daily reminder that the un-debunkable philosophy of anarcho-capitalism causes severe butthurt, making our opposition resort to calling us Fascists, Pedos, or rambling about roads instead of making rational counterpoints. They can't make rational counterpoints because arguing for any position other than self-ownership results in a performative contradiction.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,,,1497725161 130337068,130338825,2017-06-17 18:48:01,">>130338112 There's no way to prove or disprove such a thing because it's not scientific, it's moral.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497725281 130337068,130338931,2017-06-17 18:49:12,">>130338638 >the un-debunkable philosophy of anarcho-capitalism >Because rules and authorities that you are sure will ultimately prevail if a dispute arises reduces uncertainty and encourage trade. >Because it will never happen in real life: if group A dominates territory X at time t, why would they choose to keep a system where other groups compete with them on fair terms rather than have laws and institutions that consolidate their power? > It is self contradictory because it is based on property rights. How do you define and enforce them without a central authority?",,Anonymous,1497128802777.gif,DzU+qylP4RpdF54FLPaGxg==,,,1497725352 130337068,130338971,2017-06-17 18:49:36,Are you a fan of the Smut Peddlers?,,Anonymous,smut.jpg,35bXChVzcokc7tlVKESNoA==,,,1497725376 130337068,130339011,2017-06-17 18:50:04,">>130338573 >>130338825 >If the government isn't watching over people all the time parents will resort to starving their children like it's the Holodomor again Why do you have such low faith in humanity? Were you abused as a child",,Anonymous,,,,,1497725404 130337068,130339035,2017-06-17 18:50:23,">>130338573 >>130338825 >He wants the state to force scumbag degenerates to raise more degenerate children. If someone is trashy enough to neglect their child we'd be alot better off not having their degenerate offspring ruining our society",,Anonymous,,,,,1497725423 130337068,130339081,2017-06-17 18:50:52,">>130338971 The fuck is that?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497725452 130337068,130339103,2017-06-17 18:51:12,">>130338971 I love em. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yjzp9UjWJQ",,Anonymous,,,,,1497725472 130337068,130339478,2017-06-17 18:55:01,"Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2017 https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1227/all-info This bill amends the Controlled Substances Act to provide that the Act's regulatory controls and administrative, civil, and criminal penalties do not apply to with respect to marijuana. It removes marijuana and tetrahydrocannabinols from schedule I. (A schedule I controlled substance is a drug, substance, or chemical that: has a high potential for abuse; has no currently accepted medical value; and is subject to regulatory controls and administrative, civil, and criminal penalties under the Controlled Substances Act.) Additionally, it eliminates criminal penalties for an individual who imports, exports, manufactures, distributes, or possesses with intent to distribute marijuana. The bill does, however, make it a crime to knowingly ship or transport marijuana into a state where its receipt, possession, or sale is prohibited. A violator is subject to criminal penalties—a fine, a prison term of up to one year, or both.",,Anonymous,tmp_16310-images.duckduckgo.com(5)-1876663448.jpg,zxnGSXZzRD5Xz58qR893Jg==,,,1497725701 130337068,130339803,2017-06-17 18:58:20,">>130339478 Good, now I can recognise the degenerates. Never going to hire one. Let them wipe themselves out of the gene pool",,Anonymous,,,,,1497725900 130337068,130339810,2017-06-17 18:58:25,">>130338931 so new, lurk more. Understanding the concept of property is essential to knowing what the fuck we're talking about. Property rights are not granted by the state, property is a spontanious natural social order and every society (even communists even tho they wont admit it) have some form of property . If you're flying a CSA flag you should like us. Ancap is bascially a confederacy of smaller states that govern themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497725905 130337068,130339968,2017-06-17 19:00:01,">>130338931 >it is based on property rights. How do you define and enforce them without a central authority lets go even simpler. is there still a difference between sex and rape, if there is no central authority defining it for you like a big mommy?",,Anonymous,1497732927514.jpg,nD7aYNiMx0OIQC1mOqpzZw==,,,1497726001 130337068,130340035,2017-06-17 19:00:42,">>130339478 who cares, lets wipe out welfare before we let stoners sperg out, that way we dont have to subsidies their bad habits.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497726042 130337068,130340171,2017-06-17 19:01:56,">>130340035 This. Enabling degenerates before removing welfare is going to get us into a sticky trap",,Anonymous,,,,,1497726116 130337068,130340335,2017-06-17 19:03:49,">>130337068 based black jews",,Anonymous,,,,,1497726229 130337068,130340343,2017-06-17 19:03:55,">>130339968 Nope, if no one cares about what happens to the woman, there is no difference",,Anonymous,,,,,1497726235 130337068,130340484,2017-06-17 19:05:19,">>130340343 E D G Y D G Y",,Anonymous,1486913385866.jpg,HFtJskRh5Un3Qlz7m7E/oA==,,,1497726319 130337068,130340684,2017-06-17 19:07:29,SOOO BASED XDDD,,Anonymous,,,,,1497726449 130337068,130340885,2017-06-17 19:09:28,">>130340684 >When your ideology is so perfect people have to resort to ironic text to argue against you",,Anonymous,AnCap_Ball.png,Mo8IcZKYWouJhT6KM63HVA==,,,1497726568 130337068,130341131,2017-06-17 19:12:13,">>130340885 Libertarianism is Green politics for rightwingfags. >legal Weed >LGBT Fascism >legal pedophilia",,Anonymous,,,,,1497726733 130337068,130341157,2017-06-17 19:12:28,">>130340684 >>130340335 I'll be honest, this is funny. I like cheeky NatSoc shit posters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497726748 130337068,130341364,2017-06-17 19:14:49,">>130341131 In a perfect authoritarian fascist NatSoc state- >Fags and other degenerates are forced to be closeted thereby passing their fag genes on to the next generation In an AnCap state- >Fags and other degenerates are allowed to run free which ends with them burning themselves out and dying without having children or getting shot for violating the NAP",,Anonymous,,,,,1497726889 130337068,130341422,2017-06-17 19:15:31,">>130341157 >I like cheeky NatSoc shit posters B A S E D A S E D",,Anonymous,,,,,1497726931 130337068,130341475,2017-06-17 19:16:09,">>130341131 All of those sound exactly like the current youthful mainstream leftist agenda. you've got the wrong blokes. Strasserism and National BOLSHEVISM is literal National Jewery. I guess you could call it ZIONISM.",,Anonymous,The+anons+are+onery+at+this+hour+_066827a1a8b2ff8f955ea02a574729fb.jpg,sP6/IMd/o5wl2ASx/naA9Q==,,,1497726969 130337068,130341778,2017-06-17 19:19:22,">>130341364 >saying this >Let Fags adopt You Force children into degenerate families. We Force Fags into healthy families",,Anonymous,,,,,1497727162 130337068,130341944,2017-06-17 19:21:05,">>130341778 >You Force children into degenerate families. >implying people don't also have the freedom not to give fags any kids for adoption the strawman is strong with this one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497727265 130337068,130341956,2017-06-17 19:21:12,">>130341475 >Mainstream leftist agenda You mean the liberals? The little brothers of you Libertards",,Anonymous,,,,,1497727272 130337068,130342068,2017-06-17 19:22:26,">>130341778 >We Force Fags into healthy families Holy shit, leftists. come on. really? someone include me in the screenshot.",,Anonymous,1485719925993.png,csW5xl6/mwctUz4fmIQwfg==,,,1497727346 130337068,130342143,2017-06-17 19:23:11,">>130341944 It is still allowed to sell children to faggots. >We don´t have to prohibit murder >People still have the freedom not to kill.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497727391 130337068,130342201,2017-06-17 19:23:49,">>130341778 >We Force Fags into healthy families",,Anonymous,Bruh_What.jpg,rX/IqyeEP6qDpaf3Xh6eow==,,,1497727429 130337068,130342360,2017-06-17 19:25:36,">>130342143 Only retarded parents sell their kids to degenerates, thereby ensuring their retard genes do not proliferate",,Anonymous,,,,,1497727536 130337068,130342450,2017-06-17 19:26:27,">>130341956 No liberals are like the libertarian equivilant to Hitlerites, we're like the libertarian version of monarchies. and people who smoke weed and jerk off all day are the libertarian version of leftists.",,Anonymous,1468971115820.jpg,wKQ82Nn20MrA025IjW+R8g==,,,1497727587 130337068,130342651,2017-06-17 19:28:34,>>130341778,,Anonymous,state enforced homosexuality.jpg,Avmkj8q0sZAXdgP7JbN/tw==,,,1497727714 130337068,130343282,2017-06-17 19:35:30,">>130342651 I think he ebarrassed himself with admitting to state enforce homosexuality. he's not coming back. might as well bump this shit.",,Anonymous,RPV19Q4LN1KlFo8PK732zajI2wuGMz6kfPIsGakF37I.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,,,1497728130 130337068,130343905,2017-06-17 19:42:05,">>130343282 >>130342651",,Anonymous,images.jpg,3ac8frlJxYrM0PqZ63//tg==,,,1497728525 130337068,130343979,2017-06-17 19:42:51,">>130337441 I've always wondered about what would stop the largest of the private security/military companies from violating the non-aggression principle and eliminating their competition to develop a monopoly on violence/defense/control? Does anyone have any ideas on why this wouldn't or couldn't happen?",,Anonymous,1497569184267.jpg,CpRdF4rr64ARX2QHHN9lDw==,GB,,1497728571 130337068,130343985,2017-06-17 19:42:58,">>130343905 LOL, i'd be better for you if you didn't try to make a gay little comeback.",,Anonymous,2f7.jpg,7QG+pK/9qNss1l5fm+vnDw==,,,1497728578 130337068,130344040,2017-06-17 19:43:39,"Who violated the non-aggression principle first here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKuopikSh2M",,Anonymous,,,,,1497728619 130337068,130344163,2017-06-17 19:44:52,">>130343985 Capitalism is made by Jews to exploit morons",,Anonymous,,,,,1497728692 130337068,130344180,2017-06-17 19:45:06,">>130343979 its the warlords question. when we're talking in theory here we can't really see the results. it would be a true test of private production of defense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497728706 130337068,130344260,2017-06-17 19:45:46,">>130344040 The jew who organized this is the root of the aggression. He wanted this to happen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497728746 130337068,130344298,2017-06-17 19:46:18,">>130343905 > Posts Merchant >Nat(((Bolshevik)))",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497728778 130337068,130344303,2017-06-17 19:46:19,">>130344163 Socialism is made for morons to exploit the rest",,Anonymous,,,,,1497728779 130337068,130344326,2017-06-17 19:46:33,">>130343979 The invisible hand of the market will protect everybody amen",,Anonymous,,,,,1497728793 130337068,130344332,2017-06-17 19:46:38,">>130343905 >saves the thumbnail NATIONAL SOCIALISM WILL WIN",,Anonymous,,,,,1497728798 130337068,130344343,2017-06-17 19:46:46,ITS GABENING https://youtu.be/rFC4qsjpfEs,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1497728806 130337068,130344362,2017-06-17 19:46:59,Sounds to me like the lot of you are just pandering to fascists to get more support on this board.,,Anonymous,,,EE,,1497728819 130337068,130344600,2017-06-17 19:49:32,">>130344163 >>130344326 really, you're done. you're getting ignored until you spam nazbol memes. >inb4 its cause you're scard to debate me. it serves me no purpose to argue with Joseph ""We Force Fags into healthy families"" Stalinator",,Anonymous,1494199996985.jpg,5JCNG+rCtM+B1/iHTRok7w==,,,1497728972 130337068,130344760,2017-06-17 19:51:25,>>130344362,,Anonymous,b9a03392f39ca38c20c116b69359319e.jpg,F6fWqrg3/PPnd422sEIg2A==,,,1497729085 130337068,130344878,2017-06-17 19:52:44,">>130343979 Unlikely scenario, it's like a school ground bully trying to take on an entire class of students at once.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497729164 130337068,130345050,2017-06-17 19:54:39,">>130344760 Close the borders, ban all ""degenerate"" behavior and kill your political enemies isn't libertarianism, it's fascism.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1497729279 130337068,130345236,2017-06-17 19:56:54,">>130345050 Cuck",,Anonymous,,,,,1497729414 130337068,130345304,2017-06-17 19:57:41,">>130345050 Nobody's really banning anything. It's just that some lifestyles are more sustainable than others. If you smoke weed 24/7 people probably won't hire you or trust you to do many things because you'll always be high and favor instant gratification",,Anonymous,,,,,1497729461 130337068,130345448,2017-06-17 19:59:22,">>130345050 You must be new to the concept of ABSOLUTE property rights. The strongest and smartest will attain the majority of the property and govern it as they see fit. We believe the darwinianism of the whole structure lends itself to more traditional and conservative values. degenerates are called degenerates for a reason. they're inept. they wont own shit, they'll have to live on someone elses property by their rules.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1497729562 130337068,130345472,2017-06-17 19:59:37,">>130345304 As I said Every degenerate behavior is okay if nobody voluntary prevents you from doing it. Thats how Rome ended",,Anonymous,,,,,1497729577 130337068,130345589,2017-06-17 20:01:03,">>130337277 >youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU [YouTube] Not Found (embed) What does jewtub means with this?",,SAGE,,,,,1497729663 130337068,130345677,2017-06-17 20:02:03,">>130345472 just kick them off your property. people who spend thousands of dollars to buy a fursuit or have their dicks surgically removed aren't responsible market actors. If you act like a nigger your life will reflect that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497729723 130337068,130345728,2017-06-17 20:02:29,">>130345589 Cantwells youtube got Shoah'd he's removing tons of his shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497729749 130337068,130345739,2017-06-17 20:02:36,">>130345472 You can voluntarily prevent people from doing it though. You can have a ""no smoking allowed on my property"" rule. If you found a community, you can have that rule listed on the outside in order to take up residence in that community",,Anonymous,,,,,1497729756 130337068,130345974,2017-06-17 20:05:14,">>130345448 who builds the roads?",,SAGE,,,,,1497729914 130337068,130346371,2017-06-17 20:09:23,">>130345974 The people who use the roads finance the creators and the people who make the profits make the roads. Ironically the ""muh no roads"" argument is least likely to happen in an AnCap system since the lack of roads will create such a huge demand that the free market will create a road maker almost immediately",,Anonymous,,,,,1497730163 130337068,130346469,2017-06-17 20:10:30,">>130338513 >what is moral is what is profitable oh wow.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497730230 130337068,130346686,2017-06-17 20:13:08,">>130346469 >what is moral is what is profitable sustainable*",,Anonymous,,,,,1497730388 130337068,130346953,2017-06-17 20:16:08,">Libertariansm will lead to a richer society that benefits everyone >Libertarianism will act as a eugenics program by starving out the poor How the hell you make this work?",,Anonymous,1497438334453.jpg,w9jl59TECRsZjHfh/KP/AA==,US,,1497730568 130337068,130347254,2017-06-17 20:19:26,">>130346371 who determines where to build roads? The owners of the land? Who protects the cummunity? the community? How do they organize?",,SAGE,,,MX,,1497730766 130337068,130347345,2017-06-17 20:20:30,">>130346953 Libertarianism does not nor claim to benefit everyone, Libertarianism and Libertarians have always maintained that Libertarianism will benefit those that deserve to be benefited. You are thinking of Social Democracy",,Anonymous,,,,,1497730830 130337068,130347562,2017-06-17 20:22:51,">>130347254 >who determines where to build roads The road will be built wherever the builder sees fit >The owners of the land? You obviously have to own the land to build anything on it >Who protects the cummunity? the community? Yes >How do they organize? Through alliances, contracts and mutual agreements",,Anonymous,,,,,1497730971 130337068,130347791,2017-06-17 20:25:26,">>130347562 Is this like renaissance italy tier? like counts with land who beheave like private individuals looking for individual benefits?",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1497731126 130337068,130348079,2017-06-17 20:28:36,">>130346953 Because value is subjective. A person might value more doing heroin when he's 16 instead of learning a trade. Therefore, when he shoots heroin up his arm, he is considering he is better off this way. Will he regret this decision in the future? Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Freedom works both ways. I might think that eating rice + chicken and drinking water exclusively could be an economically optimal choice, but my subjective compass of value tells me that this is something that wouldn't make me happy, I would not perceive a benefit in this. By not selecting the most economically optimal option I'm engaging in some sort of eugenics on myself, I won't be able to reproduce as much as I would if all my choices were optimal, but I don't care, I value happiness more than I value being the best version of myself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497731316 130337068,130348100,2017-06-17 20:28:53,">>130346953 The increased productivity benefits everyone in the long run by raising living standards. Also the state has a tendency to subsidize failure on a massive scale. That goes away with libertarianism.",,Anonymous,Snek Texas.jpg,xGkFpGdGorgldQ6+p8/2QA==,,,1497731333 130337068,130348171,2017-06-17 20:29:40,">>130347791 Yes, although I'm not really knowledgable about renaissance era Italy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497731380 130337068,130348399,2017-06-17 20:32:28,">>130348171 Read something about it. It looks like republic era Florence, Rome, condotieri etc. Play Assassins creed 2, brotherhood and revelations.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1497731548 130337068,130348429,2017-06-17 20:32:42,"AnCap can't ensure equality of opportunity. Libertarianism can. Come back lads",,Anonymous,1497277740499.png,+J5Y75xJoZXKKXsnaNGX9Q==,,,1497731562 130337068,130348510,2017-06-17 20:33:38,Are all libertarians social outcasts...or just most?,,Anonymous,,,,,1497731618 130337068,130348545,2017-06-17 20:34:01,">>130348429 >equality of opportunity What a fucking meme",,Anonymous,,,,,1497731641 130337068,130348601,2017-06-17 20:34:35,">>130348510 Are all republicans jew loving zionists...or just most?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497731675 130337068,130348674,2017-06-17 20:35:27,">>130348429 >AnCap can't ensure equality of opportunity. >Libertarianism can. this. I want my guns and my property. >>130348545 asking this on four hana.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1497731727 130337068,130348809,2017-06-17 20:37:05,">>130348510 plenty of friends, girlfriend, usually the kind of guy who organizes something and everyone joins...social interaction is so fucking easy. On top of that, being libertarian and learning about it places you at a mindset of self-improvement, self-criticism and acknowledgement of market incentives, which is by itself a social advantage. Ever since I became interested in libertarianism I've done nothing but improve. Thanks for your concern tho.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497731825 130337068,130349004,2017-06-17 20:39:27,">>130348809 Keep telling yourself that ;) Your ""friends"" make fun of your political ""lectures"" and your weird views behind your back. Also, your gf is cheating on you, sorry to be the one to break it to ya",,Anonymous,,,,,1497731967 130337068,130349024,2017-06-17 20:39:45,">>130348601 Just most",,Anonymous,,,,,1497731985 130337068,130349076,2017-06-17 20:40:32,">>130349004 You sure got me there bro. Come over to Malta one day and I'll buy you a beer.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497732032 130337068,130349239,2017-06-17 20:42:41,">>130342360 The world is full of retards though. This only works if people are all good and intelligent, which they are not and must be forced to do good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497732161 130337068,130349257,2017-06-17 20:43:00,">>130349004 >AnCap system is so perfect that critics have to resort to strawmen and ad hominii",,Anonymous,,,,,1497732180 130337068,130349359,2017-06-17 20:44:00,">>130349239 >The world is full of retards though. And? Who put the responsibility of the world on me? If they are retarded then let them be, their own genes will be wiped out from humanity, that is fine by me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497732240 130337068,130350051,2017-06-17 20:51:30,">>130349239 But there's a better way to ""force"" them to better themselves. Say that you're good for nothing, drug addicted person who constantly falls in depression because of your gender issues. in world a, you will receive a cheque from the government to make sure nobody falls under the cracks. This perpetuates your situation. in world b, there's this church that will help you, but they will follow your progress closely and dissociate from you if you fail to take this second chance. Which world do you think is better at helping people?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497732690 130399409,130399409,2017-06-18 09:04:14,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >/lrg/ Chatroom discord / Tucrr4X >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squad",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1497738502277.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,,,1497776654 130399409,130399454,2017-06-18 09:04:55,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,1495942077569.png,xUjTEwGhRz51DLacYZ2KXA==,,,1497776695 130399409,130400227,2017-06-18 09:16:34,Morning fellas.,,Anonymous,Ancap_11.jpg,TkjCxq3qluZeq3cYMQxEhw==,US,,1497777394 130399409,130401871,2017-06-18 09:38:23,saving this thread,,Anonymous,ancap_waifu_plus.png,Ajj6ZLfFmpDyv10WPhqUaw==,GB,,1497778703 130399409,130401916,2017-06-18 09:38:54,">tfw not living in a private, covenant-based community",,Anonymous,,,,,1497778734 130399409,130402736,2017-06-18 09:50:38,so to speak,,Anonymous,hoppe_aesthetic.png,Vgc751cRK/Uz9H+mKEoo0A==,GB,,1497779438 130453827,130453827,2017-06-18 18:49:23,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - DISCORD EDITION,Anonymous,politically incorrect logo.png,m0uo2+Q63/aqqovc509odg==,SK,,1497811763 130453827,130453993,2017-06-18 18:50:48,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,lrg discord butthole bomb.png,06O2ztxFGTVKjMaYe/OHog==,SK,,1497811848 130453827,130454046,2017-06-18 18:51:20,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1497811880 130453827,130454119,2017-06-18 18:52:12,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,hoppe human trash.png,Qwszt9Py2Ku0oZvyZtPPxA==,SK,,1497811932 130453827,130454145,2017-06-18 18:52:26,">>130453827 >Timothy McVeigh If I had to rank domestic terrorists, McVeigh is #1.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497811946 130453827,130454168,2017-06-18 18:52:35,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,lrg discord shitposting.png,urCPPe3RpEOG83e3vpfrSQ==,SK,,1497811955 130453827,130454270,2017-06-18 18:53:33,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo",,Anonymous,do it for hoppe.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,SK,,1497812013 130453827,130454296,2017-06-18 18:53:51,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,ancap vs ancom frogs.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,SK,,1497812031 130453827,130454773,2017-06-18 18:58:18,">>130454145 this",,Anonymous,greetings-from-waco-texas.jpg,7FsYxSEKprT69ANb0RWwJg==,,,1497812298 130453827,130456298,2017-06-18 19:12:08,">>130453827 There's gotta be a happy medium between these two ideologies, like fascism, but with rights and capitalism and shit. A way to balance duty with freedom, a way to fight degeneracy while also remaining wary of government overreach and corruption, a way to give the people a voice while not succumbing to populism.",,Anonymous,nazi.jpg,MmWooRjJ/yshQns75DslSQ==,,,1497813128 130453827,130458181,2017-06-18 19:30:05,"On Sunday, June 25 at 12 PM, there will be a free speech rally at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC. If you are anywhere near DC or its environs, join your fellow /pol/acks in attending this event and help make it the best it can be. This is your opportunity to get your message out. >FACEBOOK PAGE & DISCORD SERVER https://pastebin.com/mxQTqncm >Antifa DC police protest on the same day https://archive.fo/GyN27 >Big League Politics article https://archive.fo/QkQuv",,Anonymous,Lincoln Memorial.jpg,dlSq0UuiKnKAT4N44SfpHg==,US,,1497814205 130453827,130458579,2017-06-18 19:34:02,">>130456298 National capitalism seems to suit this description. >laissez faire capitalism >state's purpose is to get rid of commies and other NAP violators >end goal is ancap",,Anonymous,,,,,1497814442 130453827,130459716,2017-06-18 19:45:26,">>130456298 There's no happy medium, only one True Way",,Anonymous,hanshermannhoppe.jpg,ZdjyTmJ81Lu39p/lvSeDvA==,,,1497815126 130453827,130460297,2017-06-18 19:51:19,">>130458579 I'm not really a believer in anarcho-capitalism but National Capitalism (like Pinochet, I assume) sounds pretty based. I'm not a very strong believer in democracy, most people when given the choice will vote for free stuff while not voting for more taxes, thus incurring more and more debt for the nation. At the same time, there's gotta be rights, the people must remain armed and have a good degree of free speech (obviously commies and degenerates get removed) and due process must be required.",,Anonymous,helo.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,,,1497815479 130453827,130460437,2017-06-18 19:52:38,hmm...,,Anonymous,,,,,1497815558 130453827,130460670,2017-06-18 19:55:00,">>130459716 I love him so much",,Anonymous,,,,,1497815700 130589512,130589512,2017-06-19 18:59:55,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_ron_paul.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,GB,,1497898795 130589512,130589997,2017-06-19 19:04:42,Long time since I got to get in a thread,,Anonymous,1466518042019.jpg,qvgr9uBRnQgDoci+hL4LgA==,BR,,1497899082 130589512,130590266,2017-06-19 19:07:28,Awwww yeah,,Anonymous,1497047074211.png,e+3YcsMzYN/r1v6szZuHYg==,PT,,1497899248 130589512,130590532,2017-06-19 19:09:54,"FAQ -- Every question you could have about Anarcho-capitalism, answered in one single book. https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/ >Why reactionary libertarianism and not Fascism? Introduction >How would ancaps deal with cultural Marxists and other subversive attitudes? Chapters 4 and 5 >But about what about limited government and constitutions? Chapters 6 and 7 >But what about the poor, the sick and the elderly? Chapter 10 >You guys are globalists and support open borders right? Chapter 13 >Without the state regulating the market, who will stop corporations? Chapters 3 and 9 >Okay, you've convinced me. Now what do we do? Chapters 11, 12, 14 and 15.",,Anonymous,1493295814292.jpg,BYzfAIhVqAtRrHwTXuS6vA==,,,1497899394 130589512,130590749,2017-06-19 19:11:58,">>130589512 Why is (((Friedman))) not approved?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497899518 130589512,130590766,2017-06-19 19:12:06,">>130589512 I'm a Libertarian Nationalist. Anyone else like me? If so, how do you reconcile the two concepts? Taken to its end, Libertarianism advocates for open borders and non-domestic labour. Not on my watch.",,Anonymous,2683_75354668018_2269722_n (2).jpg,4w4oIqXcAaMh/8bS/xtReg==,,,1497899526 130589512,130590893,2017-06-19 19:13:18,">>130590766 >Taken to its end, Libertarianism advocates for open borders and non-domestic labour. Untrue. Private property implies discrimination.",,Anonymous,hans_hermann_god.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,GB,,1497899598 130589512,130590901,2017-06-19 19:13:22,">>130590532 >https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/ broken 404",,Anonymous,,,,,1497899602 130589512,130590979,2017-06-19 19:14:02,">>130590532 >https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/ It's saying ""file not found""",,Anonymous,,,,,1497899642 130589512,130591145,2017-06-19 19:15:32,">>130590901 Shite.",,Anonymous,lXSWGjR.png,vMqHHETJweluOC6A2n22Og==,,,1497899732 130589512,130591194,2017-06-19 19:15:59,">>130590893 It also implies you should be able to hire non-domestic labour to work on your private property. As far as I know anyway. Wouldn't mind getting pilled on this topic if you know better than me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497899759 130589512,130591195,2017-06-19 19:15:59,">>130590766 You're still brainwashed by the notion of states/countries. If there's no state then there are no (((borders))). The only borders that matter to you are the ones around your property. And you control them. Also nation != state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497899759 130589512,130591283,2017-06-19 19:16:50,">>130590766 The precise opposite is true.",,Anonymous,1479526935629.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,,,1497899810 130589512,130591351,2017-06-19 19:17:26,when are we invading the norks?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497899846 130589512,130591368,2017-06-19 19:17:35,">>130591194 >It also implies you should be able to hire non-domestic labour to work on your private property. So what? What I do on my property is none of your concern as much as it's not of my concern what you do on yours. You are still trapped in statist thinking. You should kys.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497899855 130589512,130591420,2017-06-19 19:18:04,">>130591195 >The only borders that matter to you are the ones around your property. And you control them. And who enforces the idea that it's yours? Can't someone just come and take it from you with force without a Nation and the rule of Law?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497899884 130589512,130591596,2017-06-19 19:19:43,">>130591420 oh fuck off and take your fake ancap flag with you, commie filth",,Anonymous,kkkompass.png,wccYlNZ9a6Lwak9iKPjdag==,,,1497899983 130589512,130591777,2017-06-19 19:21:27,">>130591283 OK awesome Thanks. That's pretty much the same conclusion I came too (but articulated better by him) when I incorporated Nationalism into my Libertarian views. I was asking because I wanted to know what the standard response is around here.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497900087 130589512,130591929,2017-06-19 19:22:56,">>130591368 Your Private Property is within the context of a Nation and if you bring Mudslimes into my Nation you will be dealt with accordingly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497900176 130589512,130592099,2017-06-19 19:24:36,">>130591420 You retards should actually try to do some research before coming here and asking us basic bitch stuff. Here you go: https://mises.org/library/private-production-defense https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state Come back once you've read these two. We have a reading list for a purpose.",,Anonymous,1486501317082.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,,,1497900276 130589512,130592171,2017-06-19 19:25:16,"How does someone like I, who likes limited state intervention, but still wants some degree of education and health care so that people can make informed decisions and do so healthily, reconcile that? Is that fine, so long as there is no state? I still really like the free market, freedom of associated, speech, and enterprise?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497900316 130589512,130592203,2017-06-19 19:25:40,">>130591929 Exactly. Sorry for calling you a retard, I didn't read your reply to my post. Thought you were trolling.",,Anonymous,1495882791455m.jpg,IxayFqENPDGJci2auhZgxw==,,,1497900340 130589512,130592366,2017-06-19 19:27:12,"Going bed but have a bump, best thread :3",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497900432 130589512,130592438,2017-06-19 19:27:54,">>130592171 Private funding for education and health care could be a possible option as a donation rather than a demand from citizens",,Anonymous,8a3a559520573f47d61e32a694908337.480x270x38.gif,UWGi2G45kAnQuHiYmJwl7A==,,,1497900474 130589512,130592457,2017-06-19 19:28:05,">>130592171 *No state intervention I really don't like coercive laws at all. I don't like forcing people into things, like my students. I let them have their say and opinions, and believe truly that a good education can equip them for better involvement in politics. However, I can see the road it can lead down because not many teachers are like me.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497900485 130589512,130592458,2017-06-19 19:28:05,">>130592099 And how do the private insurers stop a Russian invasion? Where's the reading list?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497900485 130589512,130592549,2017-06-19 19:28:52,">>130592171 If you want good education and good health care then you're certainly not a statist. http://www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.html https://youtu.be/fFoXyFmmGBQ For education, see Rothbard: https://mises.org/library/education-free-and-compulsory-1",,Anonymous,1480001157460.png,Mbe2h3VILYlNVlxXXV+42g==,,,1497900532 130589512,130592626,2017-06-19 19:29:37,"Got a question for all of you. I'm a rather conservative centrist trying to align more with libertarian views, because the government runs things fucking terribly. I figured I'd start at the root of Libertarianism with the philosophical side, and have heard many good arguments that taxation is theft. But I'm also of the opinion that you cannot feasibly have society with anything less than the Minarchist ""night-watchmen"" state, and thus have been trying to figure out the philosophical basis for the justification of Taxation. Do any Minarchists here have an explanation for why taxation is acceptable when it is used to fund public courts, and how such a justification doesn't snowball into legitimizing all taxation? Or am I looking at it wrong and the governments authority to tax is legitimate but there is another reason to have small government? Thanks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497900577 130589512,130592665,2017-06-19 19:30:02,">>130592203 All good man, I'm on /pol/ I can take an insult and as a Libertarian I support your right to call me a retard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497900602 130589512,130592758,2017-06-19 19:30:59,">>130592458 It's in the same article I sent you. Hoppe has also edited a compilation of essays called the Myth of National Defense. Also see pic related.",,Anonymous,1487096884387.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,,,1497900659 130589512,130592867,2017-06-19 19:32:09,">>130592549 I appreciate it. Here, you aren't forced to send kids to school, and they can learn from home. There are some tests that they have to pass, but generally speaking, you can educate yourself. Curriculum has some standard things to be learned, but you can choose to leave school after age 16.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497900729 130589512,130592905,2017-06-19 19:32:27,">>130592626 I haven't really read minarchist books, I went straight to AnCap. Perhaps Milton Friedman books?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497900747 130589512,130592916,2017-06-19 19:32:32,"Hi /lrg/, Recommend some libertarian youtuber?",,Anonymous,IMG_7318.jpg,xZW2lf+maYs+lgeCcUjnbw==,,,1497900752 130589512,130593309,2017-06-19 19:36:02,>libertarian,,Anonymous,Tips3.gif,+xz3DAoyh3DMG2QzuL1NFQ==,,,1497900962 130589512,130593545,2017-06-19 19:38:23,">>130592758 Wow. That's fuckin brilliant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497901103 130589512,130593736,2017-06-19 19:40:23,"Alright here;s a question boys. Put you thinking AnCaps on. How do we achieve a Libertarian State? How do we make this happen? How do we go from where we are now to where we wanna be?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497901223 130589512,130594554,2017-06-19 19:48:08,">>130593736 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >organize at the local level >privatize everything >secede If you want to do it through the state privatizing schools would be a good start.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497901688 130589512,130594700,2017-06-19 19:49:34,"You idiots are living in a fantasy land. Your ideal libertarian nation would be plagued with 1) a high morality rate 2) little to no scientific innovation 3) little investment from international companies, who want to invest in a place where there is a well educated populace and lots of government investment into projects that are for the common good 4) civil unrest You are all fucking idiots. Take civics 101 again pls",,Anonymous,,,,,1497901774 130589512,130594843,2017-06-19 19:50:48,">>130594700 Cry more Democrats and communist must be physically removed b8 harder next time famalam",,Anonymous,1490301133618.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,,,1497901848 130589512,130594945,2017-06-19 19:51:37,">>130593736 Libertarian state lol anyways Decentralization and covenant communities are a key to creating a society the correct way",,Anonymous,,,,,1497901897 130589512,130595223,2017-06-19 19:53:46,">>130594843 I have legitmate points retard. You fail to address any of those. You're just proving how intellectually bankrupt your shitty ideology is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497902026 130589512,130595351,2017-06-19 19:54:53,">>130594700 Why are democrats always the most hostile towards libertarians? Is because you're jealous that we're technically more liberal than you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497902093 130589512,130595454,2017-06-19 19:55:49,">>130595223 I could respond if I felt like wasting my time on someone who would simply refuse to listen even if I put effort into an argument and refuted your points",,Anonymous,King_of_Diamonds.jpg,pUYKspM/MagjydouiJ12Vw==,,,1497902149 130589512,130595482,2017-06-19 19:56:03,">>130594700 >1) a high morality rate How? >2) little to no scientific innovation Free Market is the best way to encourage innovation >3) little investment from international companies, You mean The Jew? >4) civil unrest They're exiled or shot dead when they fuck with Muh Property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497902163 130589512,130595507,2017-06-19 19:56:18,">>130592905 Thanks for the recommendation anon, I'll look into Friedman. If anyone one else wants to tackle my question or recommend other reading materials, I'm all ears.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497902178 130589512,130595521,2017-06-19 19:56:23,">>130592916 Christopher Cantwell That Guy T Molymeme Tom Woods podcast",,Anonymous,,,,,1497902183 130589512,130595973,2017-06-19 20:00:17,">>130593309 lol",,Anonymous,,,,,1497902417 130589512,130597332,2017-06-19 20:12:33,Bumping with quotes,,Anonymous,1493839459643.jpg,07zvYI5ZFfeHD5wfzTGscw==,,,1497903153 130589512,130597385,2017-06-19 20:13:08,,,Anonymous,1493839398072m.jpg,kMDxm3rM6JXP3AnF1nch0g==,,,1497903188 130589512,130597915,2017-06-19 20:18:38,"Any good videos explaining covenant communities? I want to find an easy way to communicate the idea to people without them assuming things and attempting to cut me off",,Anonymous,,,,,1497903518 130589512,130598153,2017-06-19 20:20:48,"Murray ""unleash the police"" Rothbard Murray ""Stomp a commie for mommy"" Rothbard Murray ""throw the bums into slums"" Rothbard Murray ""Historical revision is ammunition"" Rothbard Murray ""Mozart was a red, commies drop dead"" Rothbard Murray ""Right-wing populist, not Trotskyist"" Rothbard Murray ""School prayer or out with the mayor"" Rothbard Murray ""Read Anatomy of the State or capitulate"" Rothbard Murray ""Privatize the street or feel the heat"" Rothbard",,Anonymous,1493826133343.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,,,1497903648 130589512,130598346,2017-06-19 20:22:36,"ANCAP TRAP HAREMS WHEN?!?! > hit it from the back till that rotor starts a-turnin' > take a specimen of her gravy when it starts a-churnin' > sire a proprietary strain of throughbred males and females > unbridled profit across the land",,Anonymous,1.jpg,QyNq4MZXCV4uG38hvtlPKQ==,,,1497903756 130589512,130598424,2017-06-19 20:23:08,">>130597915 This is the closest I have: https://youtu.be/gb8nJauOq_8",,Anonymous,1488589646987.jpg,yoPFLATPMy9Q6IpQnyqN2w==,,,1497903788 130589512,130599050,2017-06-19 20:29:29,">>130598424 Hmm thanks I think I may have to write a script for one and memorize an easy way to describe it People usually tend to try to disagree when I bring in exclusion of democrats and communists in most and other groups such as Gays, Germans, Blacks and others",,Anonymous,,,,,1497904169 130589512,130599329,2017-06-19 20:32:23,">>130599050 You should include examples of those who would be discriminated according to the position of the person you're arguing with. Ask a leftie ""Wouldn't it be nice if you could live in your own covenant along with your gay sisters and friends and all the diversity and Muslims in the world? Wouldn't it be great to live without those white patriarchal oppressors? :^)"" And once they say yes, you've already won. Unless you want to red pill them further and make them actually give up their love for diversity that is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497904343 130589512,130599530,2017-06-19 20:34:27,">>130599329 I have tried things such as starting off with saying that you could exclude Germans, French, Etc. then going on to other groups that they hold so dear to their heart I think I'll try your way next time though because then I can run them in a circle with that",,Anonymous,1495325646815.jpg,yCfnjOgEQjmoHPGPrT1rug==,,,1497904467 130589512,130600082,2017-06-19 20:39:10,">>130599530 Yes. That's it. Run them in circles. Make them start from their first premise that all humans are beautiful and then ask them with a smug face how come they're for discrimination after all.",,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,,,1497904750 130589512,130601171,2017-06-19 20:49:23,,,Anonymous,1485708284130.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,,,1497905363 130589512,130602407,2017-06-19 21:01:51,Last bump of the night,,Anonymous,1483564195196.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1497906111 130589512,130603102,2017-06-19 21:09:07,"When and why did they add ideological flags? How will we know if a leaf is hiding?",,Anonymous,ancapthinking.png,28cLQpYxKTNPNOr26GXcew==,,,1497906547 130589512,130603527,2017-06-19 21:13:32,">>130603102 They all talk a certain way No disguise can hide them from the day of the rake",,Anonymous,AntiCom.png,fF3jFRmq1xqC03f+KWnebQ==,,,1497906812 130589512,130604128,2017-06-19 21:19:49,">>130603527 Liberty can into Lebanon",,Anonymous,lib-nazi world map.png,oVWrV32c8W7k1tk1HX+DuA==,,,1497907189 130589512,130604329,2017-06-19 21:21:51,Is Paleolibertarianism the BEST ideology?,,Anonymous,,,FR,,1497907311 130589512,130604973,2017-06-19 21:28:36,">>130604329 Don't need to be the BEST when you're correct",,Anonymous,strawmeme.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,,,1497907716 130589512,130605908,2017-06-19 21:37:47,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1497908267 130589512,130607395,2017-06-19 21:52:56,"Can anyone recommend me some liberterian poetry/poets? Invictus is the only one I can think of",,Anonymous,stirnerrrrrrr.jpg,+tj9Ypi6GElR5WJjyZXO8Q==,US,,1497909176 130589512,130607404,2017-06-19 21:53:01,">>130593309 kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1497909181 130589512,130608049,2017-06-19 21:59:44,LTV is the only sensible and internally consistent valuation paradigm.,,Anonymous,,,,,1497909584 130589512,130609836,2017-06-19 22:18:25,"Ok so i actually have some questions that i want to hear from the anarcho capitalists themselves: 1.Where/when in history the libertarian ideal had the most strength? 2. The base, the core, the heart of the libertarian ideia, what it is? 3. The biggest proof that the ideia works 4. Any advice for someone who is learning?",,Anonymous,2ac40d7784676b65b6604f6a4945c942c0e441378e0964f824a0e76ec2fb9640_1.jpg,dV7moU2iY7YdMYkC1pAuiQ==,BR,,1497910705 130589512,130610086,2017-06-19 22:21:26,">>130608049 tell me more comrade",,Anonymous,marxandfriedmanonthesamepage.jpg,jQcX/dlW8Ly0ZxJ3JYAGYg==,,,1497910886 130589512,130610486,2017-06-19 22:25:20,">>130609836 That Neocon ball made me laugh. 1. Today. The internet means we're not isolated, have access to books and papers at will, and can communicate without censorship. 2. We are against using violence against peaceful people. NAP for short. 3. Human Action. 4. Hazlitt Econ in One Lesson. Mises.org. Youtube Hoppe speeches.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497911120 130589512,130610600,2017-06-19 22:26:24,">>130610486 not ancap but i thought the core principle was self ownership and the rights it implies; NAP being one of them",,Anonymous,,,,,1497911184 130589512,130610889,2017-06-19 22:29:22,"Has anyone ever met a libertarian irl that wasn't an absolute pain to deal with? Fuck, I'm for small government, but I'd give some tax bux to pay for you libertarian social outcasts to learn some people skills",,Anonymous,,,,,1497911362 130589512,130611176,2017-06-19 22:32:25,">>130610600 I suppose I was answering ""the heart of libertarianism"". Self ownership is foundational, naturally.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497911545 130589512,130611314,2017-06-19 22:33:40,Why isn't Molymeme approved?,,Anonymous,,,,,1497911620 130589512,130611316,2017-06-19 22:33:41,"90% sure slovakbro was on the tom woods show once who /tom woods/ here btw?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497911621 130589512,130611744,2017-06-19 22:38:19,Most didactic(easy to understand/for begginers) book about this whole ideology?,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1497911899 130589512,130611850,2017-06-19 22:39:31,">>130589512 Mandatory reading",,Anonymous,1490404004677.png,XVCEBF2yaxcQBy+upkcKTA==,US,,1497911971 130589512,130611860,2017-06-19 22:39:36,">>130609836 >1.Where/when in history the libertarian ideal had the most strength? 1776 >2. The base, the core, the heart of the libertarian ideia, what it is? Freedom from a coercive government, but not freedom from consequences. Everything is to be voluntary and without violence, with self-defense as a reasonably acceptable exception. Contracts are then key here for mutually beneficial agreements to establish order, with capitalism the engine for unlimited growth no longer held back by government. So it's not pussy pacifism, not silly ""no hierarchy shit"", and certainly not chaos for the sake of it. Everything would be largely the same: modern, clean, except that control is now back to the hands of the people and their private property to do as they please with it. No thought police, no arbitrarily imposed restrictions on what one can and can't do, and definitely no taxes. I went on a tangent there, but as far as ""the heart"" of libertarianism, I would say it is simply at its core to maximize the freedom of an individual in its most natural state: self-ownership. A bit idealistic, but understand that violence is not wholly ignored either and armed citizens and private militias play an important role in Ancapistan. >3. The biggest proof that the ideia works Everything that you do, do you do it with government in mind? As individuals, we're all anarchists. A government does not dictate our thoughts, our actions, what we are to do with our free time. The idea of government in one's personal life is utterly abhorrent to most people and yet they also vote more government to interfere in the lives of its citizens. The biggest proof are the adults around you: doing as they please, what they want, when they want. Only a child would think they need supervision on every little thing. >4. Any advice for someone who is learning? Read, read, and read. My personal recommendation is Anatomy of the State by Murray Rothbard, a mere 60 pages jam full of truth.",,Anonymous,Anatomy of the State.jpg,Lw+bQoK4o77kehdqxC3ipA==,US,,1497911976 130589512,130611987,2017-06-19 22:41:00,">>130609836 >>130611860 >>130611744 Forgot the link to Anatomy of the State, available here for free: https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state I just love it. It's so beautifully short.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497912060 130589512,130612081,2017-06-19 22:42:02,">>130611314 ah, but he is behold the essential molymeme",,Anonymous,1495315878431.jpg,OL17lbb/C4EAaaxMMWUXsQ==,US,,1497912122 130589512,130612099,2017-06-19 22:42:14,"Damn, i almost forgot, which government system you guys prefer? Presidentialism or Parliamentarism or.....?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1497912134 130589512,130612345,2017-06-19 22:44:44,">>130612099 There are many names. Anarcho-Capitalism, Right-Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, etc. All somewhat slightly different to each other in technical terms but at its core distinguishes itself from Left-Libertarianism in that """"""positive rights"""""" are wholly ignored. The state is also either massively reduced if not outright abolished.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497912284 130589512,130612397,2017-06-19 22:45:18,,,Anonymous,1497656347178.jpg,VhNXn0puTBNYHdd+JPT+mQ==,,,1497912318 130589512,130612511,2017-06-19 22:46:36,">>130612081 >Return ""The truth about Sam Harris' Jewish ancestry"" KEK",,Anonymous,,,,,1497912396 130589512,130612572,2017-06-19 22:47:13,">>130592626 There is no justification for taxation, unless you think the state are genuine owners of the land.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497912433 130589512,130612810,2017-06-19 22:49:24,">>130592916 Brent Ancap Shane Killian Christopher Cantwell",,Anonymous,,,,,1497912564 130589512,130613076,2017-06-19 22:52:23,">>130595223 >I have legitmate points retard No, you have assertions that you have failed to meet the burden of proof on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497912743 130589512,130613573,2017-06-19 22:57:25,">>130612572 What is the argument against the state being the owner of the land? The only one I've seen is that land must be ""homesteaded"", that is, put to use, for the land to be owned (assuming it was previously abandoned). But if the state is taxing people who live on the land, that is effectively renting, so isn't the state putting the land to use and thereby the owner of it? Furthermore, if we claim that the state does not own the land, then who does? Outside of very specific aboriginal land claims in the US and Canada I cannot really think of anyone who could claim traditional ownership outside of the governments themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497913045 130589512,130614252,2017-06-19 23:04:26,">>130609836 1. I don't know much history, so I can't answer this one. 2. The non-aggression principle and private property rights. 3. The burden of proof is not on libertarianism. I'd suggest watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anP42zvPPRQ&list=PLSPi1JFx4_-H7dEU9enhqWPWoFX9rM7AW&index=1&ab_channel=ShaneKillian 4. what advice do you want?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497913466 130589512,130614705,2017-06-19 23:09:22,">>130613573 Well, the state itself already recognizes citizens as private property owners, so they don't even try to claim ownership over the land that they tax. How can you own something if you recognize someone else as the owner?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497913762 130589512,130615080,2017-06-19 23:13:28,">>130614705 I've been thinking that it's more like leasing, since if you don't pay your property tax the government basically seizes your land from you, just like the repo-guys do when you don't pay your car loan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497914008 130589512,130615185,2017-06-19 23:14:35,"hi guys cant fucking wait to be out of uni. if was already working i could go to corax and pfs this year. SOOOO JELLY OF WHO WILL ATTEND HOLY SHIT",,^~,hoppe-feelgood.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,,,1497914075 130589512,130615632,2017-06-19 23:19:58,">>130615080 But they already recognize the people they take from as property owners. Regardless, how can the state really own anything? States don't have rights, people have rights. Even if we agree that the people who were originally part of the state were legitimate property owners, that doesn't mean that the politicians today own the country. They didn't homestead anything, and they didn't inherit it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497914398 130589512,130615650,2017-06-19 23:20:08,">>130594700 (1) How so? (2) Patents don't help innovation; they hinder it. (3) is probably the most legitamite criticism; solved by having corporations own the set of municipal services for the city, and charging based on the value accruing to each property in the city 4) Not if whiny shitlibs are physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497914408 130589512,130616348,2017-06-19 23:27:25,">>130600082 >The Helicopter's Handbook kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1497914845 130589512,130616613,2017-06-19 23:30:44,These are the best threads on this board.,,Anonymous,1497482684220.jpg,/vAUxGlEBmE2AfGwn82/RQ==,,,1497915044 130589512,130616641,2017-06-19 23:30:59,">>130615632 Under that logic, wouldn't companies be unable to own land (well, lease technically if we are considering the state the owner), since they are not people and do not have rights? I'm fine with with companies ""purchasing"" property to build businesses and structures on. If wallmart can buy a piece of land from an individual, why would the state not be able to own land? If institutional property rights exist, then the states taxation is justified. This line of thinking would mean that both individuals and corporations are basically trading property leased from the government, making taxation (the rent/lease/what have you) legitimate. Also for reference I'm a fucking leaf, so let's try and keep this conversation independent of American constitutional elements going forward (despite their contributions to the Libertarian movement).",,Anonymous,,,,,1497915059 130589512,130616832,2017-06-19 23:32:57,">>130612081 I like how they get more ridiculous.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497915177 130589512,130616840,2017-06-19 23:33:03,">>130600082 >no ""The Economics of Time and Ignorance"" Do I even wanna know what else it is missing?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497915183 130589512,130617009,2017-06-19 23:35:00,">>130592171 The free market would provide the cheapest and most efficient possible version of those services. Always, 100% guaranteed to be more efficient than even a minarchists state. The best service available at the lowest cost without any coercion or theft.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497915300 130589512,130617126,2017-06-19 23:36:17,What do ancaps think about mutualism?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1497915377 130589512,130617351,2017-06-19 23:38:57,">>130617126 >devious little critter.jpg",,Anonymous,,,,,1497915537 130589512,130617368,2017-06-19 23:39:08,">>130617126 Don't force us to do shit. Otherwise yall can ""socialize"" your resources. Coops are ok and can flourish in the market. Look at Switzerland and Coop/Migros and such.",,^~,1491683805169.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,,,1497915548 130589512,130617657,2017-06-19 23:42:18,">>130616641 Companies are able to own land because it's not the company itself that owns it; instead, it's the owner(s) of the company. Who owns the state, and can they pass it off as inheritance? (I would argue that the queen isn't really the owner; if she was, then she wouldn't be subject to the limitations that have been placed upon her by the constitution.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497915738 130589512,130619137,2017-06-19 23:59:05,">>130617657 >Companies are able to own land because it's not the company itself that owns it; instead, it's the owner(s) of the company. But do they? When there are fees, damages or legal repercussions regarding the land it is always the legal responsibility of the company, and seldom the owner of the company. If the company fails to meet it's obligations then the owner of the company may be held responsible, but there is a fairly clear divide between company property and personal property for all company associated individuals, including the owner. This is why charges such as Embezzlement exist, which is the misallocation of company resources towards an individual, even if that individual owns the company in question. If a companies property was the same as personal property, then a company owner couldn't be charged with embezzlement unless they violated some very specific contract stipulation with an investor. If we assume this to be true, then institutional ownership exists, in which case there is no need for inheritance of government land since the institution of government itself continues to own it, regardless of the individuals involved. So I guess it's a question whether or not institutions can own things. I'd love to hear the opinion of a lawyerfag if I'm off base here.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497916745 130589512,130619309,2017-06-20 00:01:02,">>130593309 Impressive actually.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497916862 130589512,130619958,2017-06-20 00:07:52,">>130612081 I'm damn glad someone else saved it.",,Anonymous,Ancap_2.jpg,jAu8PsgucJkzlk9veoZnfQ==,US,,1497917272 130589512,130620281,2017-06-20 00:11:20,">>130611850 Mandatory (you)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497917480 130589512,130621035,2017-06-20 00:20:31,">>130619137 I don't think institutions can really own property; however, your argument makes sense, and I could be wrong. The reason I don't think institutions can own things is because they don't have rights. Does an institution have the right to life? liberty? speech? No, they don't; They don't because they aren't people. People's rights, including property rights, are derived from their right to self-ownership, the right to control your own life. How would an institution have that right; how could it own itself when it's not alive. Objects don't have rights, so they can't own property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497918031 130589512,130621085,2017-06-20 00:21:05,">>130589512 bamp",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497918065 130589512,130621150,2017-06-20 00:21:45,Bump,,Anonymous,Ancap_7.jpg,dkzTDVjw+OwcX0bioqgEMw==,US,,1497918105 130589512,130621462,2017-06-20 00:25:20,One last bump.,,Anonymous,Ancap_15.jpg,FHWn07ymTGMetDby7eir1Q==,US,,1497918320 130589512,130621529,2017-06-20 00:26:04,">>130609836 >1.Where/when in history the libertarian ideal had the most strength? Modern history. 80% of life is completely free of government coercion. Areas without government coercion are basically exploding (read The Internet, Bitcoins, etc.) >2. The base, the core, the heart of the libertarian ideia, what it is? That man has the right to property and the right to trade with whomever he chooses. >3. The biggest proof that the ideia works The internet man. >4. Any advice for someone who is learning? Watching some Stefan Molymeme (also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o)",,Anonymous,,,,,1497918364 130589512,130621644,2017-06-20 00:27:24,">>130620281 Thanks for the (you)",,Anonymous,1490980448075.jpg,BJUGE7P4b08eaRQ4YUKjGg==,US,,1497918444 130589512,130621740,2017-06-20 00:28:21,">>130595223 >I have legitimate points. You claim to have legitimate points. Care to tell anybody why they should accept your points as legitimate?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497918501 130589512,130621813,2017-06-20 00:29:15,">>130594700 >a high morality rate Yeah that sounds terrible. Morality. So bad.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497918555 130589512,130622136,2017-06-20 00:33:15,">>130621035 A reasonable point to make anon, you might be right. However I think I disagree. It's true that an individuals right to own property comes from their innate rights (life, liberty, speech ect) but I think it's different for institutions. What really is an institution? The answer is that it's an imaginary thing. It's not the people who own it, the people who work for it, nor the people who invest it in; although an institution may have responsibilities to all those people based on contract law ect. An institution is an imaginary hierarchical system to which the people who invent it ascribe rights or responsibilities. Companies can own property because they are created with the intent of owning property to facilitate some purpose. I think, philosophically, we as people give life to our creations that they may serve us in some way. I think government is the same way, and this institution of government has been owning and leasing their countries in exchange for tax money, and that this institution is as legitimate as walmart is legitimate or McDonalds is legitimate or anything else. Or at least the law regarding company property certainly seems support this. This is why Libertarianism is so difficult and so full of nuance. An Anarchist can claim the government isn't legitimate if they believe that property cannot be owned by anyone other then individuals. But a Libertarian must acknowledge the legitimacy of government, and then persuasively argue why it shouldn't do things with it's legitimate authority. And that's fucking hard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497918795 130589512,130623662,2017-06-20 00:51:13,">>130607395 Roses are red Violets are blue I have a gun Get off my lawn",,Anonymous,,,,,1497919873 130589512,130623882,2017-06-20 00:54:07,">>130622136 I need to go to sleep soon, so this will be my last serious post. An institution has to be created by an individual or multiple individuals. Since creating something makes you the owner of said thing (in the case of children it makes you the trustee), the creator(s) of the institution must be the owner(s) of it. Since there is an owner of it, that must mean that whatever it does is done by the will of the owner. If a new Walmart opens up (and owns the building, instead of leasing it), the owner of the building is not truly Walmart; the owner would be the stockholders. My point is that an institution is a piece of property; how can property own other property?",,Anonymous,,,,,1497920047 130589512,130624040,2017-06-20 00:55:58,,,Anonymous,,,,,1497920158 130589512,130624177,2017-06-20 00:57:29,">>130623882 You could be right, I don't think I have any more thoughts then what I've already posted. But if you're right, and institutions cannot own property, then no taxation is legitimate, which means no Minarchist government is legitimate. And frankly I'm not settled on that point. Either way, it was good talking to you, have a good night Anon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497920249 130589512,130625331,2017-06-20 01:11:19,">>130621644 And you must be this so-called superior man, huh? One can impose duties on himself and still value his right. What you want is the state to impose duties on men; does that make them superior? No, it means they are slaves. Inferior men allow themselves to be slaves, while the superior man imposes duties on himself on his own terms.",,Anonymous,rage_hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,,,1497921079 130673890,130673890,2017-06-20 12:36:52,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >Based Hoppe physically removes democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >I Need a Pinochet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A >Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc >Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: UNLEASH THE POLICE EDITION,Anonymous,1491259332524.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,PT,,1497962212 130673890,130673998,2017-06-20 12:38:06,,,Anonymous,1473113246858.jpg,op35mgX+umOfdH8k2ibzZg==,PT,,1497962286 130673890,130674061,2017-06-20 12:38:46,,,Anonymous,1494369450262.jpg,QXG0W7mxdnA6s/TdSy75+w==,PT,,1497962326 130673890,130674141,2017-06-20 12:39:46,,,Anonymous,1493826133343.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,PT,,1497962386 130673890,130674225,2017-06-20 12:40:46,,,Anonymous,1494374271057.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,PT,,1497962446 130673890,130675175,2017-06-20 12:50:32,"bump what's the worst part of communism?",,Anonymous,communist_points.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,GB,,1497963032 130673890,130675361,2017-06-20 12:52:45,">>130675175 It makes their proponents so fucking annoying and without any self awareness of their embarrassing positions on everything.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497963165 130673890,130676586,2017-06-20 13:06:24,">>130675361 as expected from leftists",,Anonymous,communists_arent_human.png,t9v2a9vrXkVG3hw8psjqDQ==,GB,,1497963984 130673890,130677243,2017-06-20 13:13:04,,,Anonymous,1489782787133.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,,,1497964384 130673890,130677604,2017-06-20 13:16:32,"Hey guys, my open borders essay sucks. All the arguments are there and they're all solid but it's an awful mess with zero flow. I'm not having fun anymore. ):",,Anonymous,arab_ball_daughters.png,mhxm6ScRET8Mtm4tAinaJA==,US,,1497964592 130673890,130677847,2017-06-20 13:18:54,">>130677604 I don't think it should be needed anyway. There's already a massive wealth of essays on libertarian positions against open borders.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497964734 130673890,130678043,2017-06-20 13:21:07,"Reporting in from an unbelievably hot and sunny Slovakia. >>130677604 Holy shit, my memes are gaining traction.",,Anonymous,arab ball iraq.png,2g/bWCGiPVGHPsNAnTqvFg==,SK,,1497964867 130673890,130678340,2017-06-20 13:24:15,">>130677604 Nigga add some wit to it, offside snarky comments in leftists, rhetorical questions and other stuff.",,Anonymous,1439948804317.png,kOZDvxl98RYzOmPSuhvOgQ==,PT,,1497965055 130673890,130678396,2017-06-20 13:24:54,">>130677847 It's cool, I did read almost every piece on the matter and I can make many solid arguments with evidence and examples of real legislation that affect the situation. Just wish I had a solid single page BTFOing of left Libertarians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497965094 130673890,130678486,2017-06-20 13:25:41,">>130675175 >what's the worst part of communism? Everything",,Anonymous,,,,,1497965141 130673890,130678610,2017-06-20 13:26:53,">>130678043 I died at 163 >>130678340 Yeah I guess I could fill in some space with some attitude. I'll keep at it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497965213 130673890,130678841,2017-06-20 13:29:09,">>130673890 >Videos: >>What is Physical Removal? Did you actually watch this? Doesn't really make any arguments and I'm halfway in, just obsesses about calling it virtue signalling and flirting with the right. It's actually funny how much time is spent shitting on memes by someone that uses heavy vaporwave filters for no reason. Oh wait he's actually starting to talk about the argument post halfway into it. Fucking hell. Okay so he just asserts that it can't work because it's exclusionary. He also asserts a full on libertarian system couldn't function and that we need some unspecified level of statism because.. we need to watch another video of his apparently to get that argument. 10 minutes in. At 13 minutes we finally get to the fucking point about removing people incompatible with libertarian life. This is it. The big finish. He has 1 minute and 30 seconds left to make the rebuttal. >""Does Hobbes view violate the NAP itself?"" ""Now, maybe their willingness to redistribute your property is breaking the NAP itself, but.. is the belief in democracy or communism really an aggression? Can a belief be an aggression?"" >But anyway thanks for watching everyone Is this a fucking joke? Why is this video linked at all, jesus fucking christ.",,Anonymous,Worf-Disapproves.png,fGojqdY77Pe2JBjbDTRSQQ==,SE,,1497965349 130673890,130678863,2017-06-20 13:29:21,I have a theory - Every libertarian I know (including myself) either fled a communist country or their parents/grandparents fled communism. Is exposure to the horrors of communism directly responsible to individuals fostering libertarian ideologies?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1497965361 130673890,130678935,2017-06-20 13:30:03,">>130678610 Hold on, isn't it 168? Why would I deny the 168 million? Am I a bad goy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497965403 130673890,130678996,2017-06-20 13:30:36,">>130675175 how it smells just after it stopped raining",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1497965436 130673890,130679062,2017-06-20 13:31:16,">>130678863 Not me",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1497965476 130673890,130679452,2017-06-20 13:35:13,">>130677604 Is there anyone who could help you in some way? I'd like to read your shit anyways, suck or no suck.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497965713 130673890,130679543,2017-06-20 13:36:12,">>130678863 No not me, I just want keep the liberty I have. I see all the Important Nations colluding for some kind of socialist global Union and I gotta stop that shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497965772 130673890,130679681,2017-06-20 13:37:35,">>130679452 I'm on a phone right now but when I got some time I'll post the less autistic parts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497965855 130673890,130680057,2017-06-20 13:41:37,">>130678863 Had mostly indirect exposure, desu. But whole Europe is too socialistic for any thinking human being.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497966097 130673890,130680305,2017-06-20 13:44:12,">>130678935 Oy vey we need to make Timmy look less deadly so that right-wingers don't worship him!",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1497966252 130673890,130680736,2017-06-20 13:48:29,">>130679681 We will give you feedback when you post here >tfw one of the features of ancap is open source blockchain public ledger argumentation",,Anonymous,1497047074211.png,e+3YcsMzYN/r1v6szZuHYg==,PT,,1497966509 130673890,130680842,2017-06-20 13:49:27,">>130673890 To everyone here who volunteered for the Ron Paul 2012 campaign: Hi.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497966567 130673890,130680901,2017-06-20 13:49:59,">>130675175 It doesn't recognize property rights, which is the foundation of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1497966599 130673890,130681099,2017-06-20 13:51:44,">>130675175 Pic related.",,Anonymous,Ancap_15.jpg,FHWn07ymTGMetDby7eir1Q==,US,,1497966704 130673890,130682944,2017-06-20 14:09:32,">>130680305 ""Timmy McVeigh turned me into a lampshade. Twice."" -Ben Shapiro.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497967772 130673890,130683713,2017-06-20 14:16:53,"Can we edit all ""capitalism kills millions"" memes to 168 gorillian.",,Anonymous,bpuw8sxhjr4y.png,0R57Vo/V/fFC0waf5BMPDQ==,US,,1497968213 130673890,130685200,2017-06-20 14:29:57,Bump.,,Anonymous,BeatitFag.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,US,,1497968997 130673890,130686014,2017-06-20 14:37:58,"What do you guys think of the Confederacy? Confederate states, best states",,Anonymous,Confederate_Rebel_Flag.svg.png,ywHdSh8aOKh5vvrX9lWLLg==,PT,,1497969478 130673890,130686947,2017-06-20 14:46:29,">>130686014 The Confederacy is based. States rights would have brought us so much closer to ancapistan. Also probably wouldn't have civil rights act if they won. It would be pretty comfy to be able to discriminate senpai.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1497969989 130673890,130687988,2017-06-20 14:56:27,">>130686947 Yes. Fuck those Civil Rights Act. I love Rothbard's trashing of, in his own words, ""Dr."" King. Rothbard said the ultimate litmus test for libertarians is whether or not they recognize King for the forced integrationist and communist he was.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497970587 130673890,130688726,2017-06-20 15:03:12,">>130687988 Ha excellent, I read a good bit about his take on civil rights, the guy is an absolute madman.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1497970992 130673890,130689756,2017-06-20 15:13:09,">>130688726 I'd love to bring 90s Rothbard to the present with a time machine, full HP, to see him go shit on all the social justice movements of today.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1497971589 130721052,130721052,2017-06-20 19:23:07,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,^~,lrg-op.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,,,1497986587 130721052,130721138,2017-06-20 19:23:43,,,^~,hoppe-feelgood.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,,,1497986623 130721052,130721478,2017-06-20 19:26:36,"What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes Democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A",,^~,hoppewave.jpg,ia2+0pGzR738bf2zAn3onQ==,,,1497986796 130721052,130722326,2017-06-20 19:33:39,"Drop It Like It’s Hoppe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I need a Pinochet! – Music Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe’s Kitchen – How to make Wiener Schnitzel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",,^~,1490448386668.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,,,1497987219 130721052,130722748,2017-06-20 19:36:37,Anyone here attending Corax or PFS this year?,,^~,19059355_1920738148163245_3357005149561885727_n.png,jC0dlSp1wlN5Z+CwkQd/KA==,,,1497987397 130829596,130829596,2017-06-21 14:49:00,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - DISCORD EDITION,Anonymous,politically incorrect logo.png,m0uo2+Q63/aqqovc509odg==,SK,,1498056540 130829596,130829680,2017-06-21 14:49:40,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,lrg discord shitposting.png,urCPPe3RpEOG83e3vpfrSQ==,SK,,1498056580 130829596,130829757,2017-06-21 14:50:18,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1498056618 130829596,130829794,2017-06-21 14:50:39,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,ideologies spangebub.jpg,sm0ZQ/0SS4WswyPBR1JTGw==,SK,,1498056639 130829596,130830033,2017-06-21 14:52:39,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,OKC meme.png,hkilyxdDI6suWDimCn7vZg==,SK,,1498056759 130829596,130830081,2017-06-21 14:53:03,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo",,Anonymous,lrg discord butthole bomb.png,06O2ztxFGTVKjMaYe/OHog==,SK,,1498056783 130829596,130830151,2017-06-21 14:53:42,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,ron paul nap.jpg,19FJjqRHaqREZx9CAci+HA==,SK,,1498056822 130829596,130830289,2017-06-21 14:54:56,,,Anonymous,hoppe schwag.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,SK,,1498056896 130829596,130830390,2017-06-21 14:55:50,>mfw turks invaded Austria in the 1600s and now the Austrians are invading Turkey,,Anonymous,hoppe-senpai.jpg,xPYHlnJ8Byb5vByoB1jjBA==,SK,,1498056950 130829596,130830940,2017-06-21 15:01:04,"Hey Serbiabro, how's it going",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498057264 130829596,130831198,2017-06-21 15:03:17,"Hello. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTmNWY0ZPfM",,Anonymous,,,,,1498057397 130829596,130831221,2017-06-21 15:03:29,">>130830940 Pretty good, Ottoman Empire. How about you?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498057409 130829596,130831315,2017-06-21 15:04:25,">>130831221 Hello lads.",,Anonymous,taxation is theft.png,AaeL/xEqnNkE62wnvTh2zA==,GB,,1498057465 130829596,130831578,2017-06-21 15:07:18,">>130831198 >tfw multiculturalism and race-mixing was pushed by a hapa and an heir to the throne of the most diverse kingdom to exist on such a small area of land heh",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498057638 130829596,130831648,2017-06-21 15:08:06,">>130831315 Hi to you, too. Are you in the Discord group?",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1498057686 130829596,130832639,2017-06-21 15:17:42,Awoo!,,Anonymous,,,,,1498058262 130935418,130935418,2017-06-22 10:42:54,"New pastebin edition This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. This includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorists and right-wing reactionary-ism against the left (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - this is a thread for those that realise property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many of them have already been answered many times, so it is recommended you get to grip with the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to argue with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebins: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 / https://pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 INTRODUCTION/REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >(Further Reading - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg for a reference) THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop It Like It's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_hoppe.png,6Fri1z1L+n6co21Xqo1oqA==,GB,,1498128174 130935418,130935868,2017-06-22 10:47:49,Do agorists really belong here? They seem like a bunch of fags that just want to sell drugs and import Mexicans for quick cash.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498128469 130935418,130936444,2017-06-22 10:54:01,"Anyway aside from agorism, good paste.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1498128841 130935418,130936646,2017-06-22 10:56:17,">>130935868 >>130936444 What's wrong with agorism? Methods like cryptocurrency and black markets are a good way to depower the state.",,Anonymous,Fuck_Islam.png,lwquMKIOk8YTOJcXXlRyiw==,GB,,1498128977 130935418,130937133,2017-06-22 11:01:51,">>130936646 I guess you could try and bring down the state by selling regular shit on the black market, it just seems that the high profit trades are all degenerate shit like selling drugs, and human trafficking. The state isn't really being undermined unless you're a Mexican druglord, and at that point you're as murderous a monopoly as the state.",,Anonymous,augusto-pinochet-3.jpg,xpa9fY2csFPv4uIXQ2k+xQ==,US,,1498129311 130935418,130937542,2017-06-22 11:06:42,">>130935418 MOLON LABE O L O N L A B E",,Anonymous,,,,,1498129602 130935418,130938319,2017-06-22 11:15:02,,,Anonymous,Master_Race.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1498130102 130935418,130938847,2017-06-22 11:20:47,everytime.,,Anonymous,econcollapse.jpg,Us0c4mLtFD0wcrC+oN3W/g==,AU,,1498130447 130935418,130939123,2017-06-22 11:24:04,Prove to me that free healthcare doesn't work.,,Anonymous,,,,,1498130644 130935418,130939157,2017-06-22 11:24:25,">>130938847 Oy vey, we'll fix the market. It's those damn corrupt businesses. Just let us merge the state with the corporations, that will make sure they can't be corrupt",,Anonymous,so_the_way_to_smash_the_state_is_1488.png,JmegHouDXnf7myqXj23S9Q==,US,,1498130665 130935418,130939392,2017-06-22 11:27:03,">>130939123 It works if the goal is to create a state monopoly of healthcare that only the rich can avoid. Oh wait, you're a Democrat. Of course that's the goal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498130823 130935418,130939685,2017-06-22 11:30:12,">>130939123 Also might I add, healthcare is not free. The doctor still gets paid. Guess who pays him?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498131012 130935418,130939709,2017-06-22 11:30:27,">>130939123 By ""free"" I assume you mean provided for by government enforced coercive confiscation of peoples income. In which case it's not free at all; and generally will have a central body presiding over healthcare which will then fail due to the problem of economic calculation.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1498131027 130935418,130939789,2017-06-22 11:31:16,">>130939123 >free https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67YbCq6460",,Anonymous,AAAAAAAAAAAAHHH.png,BzcQjfGIWEzejouhNk+HtA==,,,1498131076 130935418,130939914,2017-06-22 11:32:36,">>130939123 Not only it's not free, but it's actually more expensive than private healthcare, because you have to pay, in addition, the gargantuan governmental apparatus. But you commies are just too brainwashed (but most of the times, just plain stupid) to understand this.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1498131156 130935418,130940549,2017-06-22 11:39:13,">>130939392 >>130939685 >>130939709 >>130939789 >>130939914 >works in every european country >i-it doesn't work guys! At the very least, you can concede that it is still better than America's free market system",,Anonymous,,,,,1498131553 130935418,130940744,2017-06-22 11:41:16,">>130940549 >America's free market system t. democratic intellectual",,Anonymous,1482385375464.jpg,xkCvnaOOAR/YMQJo43wurA==,,,1498131676 130935418,130940919,2017-06-22 11:43:06,">>130940549 Dumb Amerifag, you are the one who says it works. I experience it every fucking single day, and NO, it doesn't work. It doesn't, never did and never will.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1498131786 130935418,130940958,2017-06-22 11:43:37,">>130940549 Like I said, state healthcare does exactly what its supposed to do. It is a state monopoly on healthcare. In this sense it ""works"" America does not have a free market healthcare system, even so it is higher quality than what you see in most Europe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498131817 130935418,130942141,2017-06-22 11:55:35,Democrats are no fun. I thought he'd put up more of a fight.,,Anonymous,C_6ksoZXoAArVVd.jpg,0C+nXUKCwqgMtlYohZsrIg==,US,,1498132535 130935418,130942153,2017-06-22 11:55:42,>>130940549,,Anonymous,socialist healthcare3.jpg,ADKkjc/7Z9rpC+EdRW41SA==,,,1498132542 130935418,130942279,2017-06-22 11:57:06,>Mah Nordic socialism,,Anonymous,IMG_20170618_193205.jpg,OR8WeaO7L21FUWgqVEeZzw==,SY,,1498132626 130935418,130942736,2017-06-22 12:02:20,">>130935418 bump",,Anonymous,,,,,1498132940 130935418,130942751,2017-06-22 12:02:26,"ANCAP TRAP HAREMS WHEN?!?! > bundas for Bitcoin, with some coke and PrEP on the house",,Anonymous,mobile_TRAVESTI-ESCORT-MEXICO-PLAYA-DEL-CARMEN_2.jpg,bAoRxm/GqfrkunTGU+lklw==,,,1498132946 130935418,130942771,2017-06-22 12:02:42,Do you guys think there's enough of us to stage a coup on the Libertarian party? We could Purge all the left Libertarians and run a campaign for a libertarian dictatorship. It would be pretty sweet.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498132962 130935418,130942844,2017-06-22 12:03:23,">>130942751 Fuck off faggot. You have to go back. Spread your trash somewhere else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498133003 130935418,130942879,2017-06-22 12:03:51,">>130940549 Hey, Britbong here. The NHS is failing, it's horrible, wait times are horrendous. It doesn't 'work', it functions, in spite of all it's flaws, and definitely doesn't flourish because of them like you suggest. Nordic socialism is a meme, all their wealth came from lassez faire and in reality the socialist polices have only made it worse. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-commentary/rotting-sweden-a-lesson-in-bad-policy/article731023/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498133031 130935418,130942903,2017-06-22 12:04:10,>>130942751,,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,LatNQtsX/0qiXcA64qB87w==,GB,,1498133050 130935418,130942935,2017-06-22 12:04:37,">>130942771 >libertarian dictatorship it looks like an oxymoron, but it isn't. We have to develop this idea a bit more, by the way.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1498133077 130935418,130943162,2017-06-22 12:07:12,">>130942771 I think a lot of people in the Trump movement would gladly join the Libertarians if the Republican party gets too cucked. Republicans are not bad enough to leave though yet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498133232 130935418,130943224,2017-06-22 12:08:03,">>130942279 Switzerland is expensive but it has almost double the average wage of Sweden. It also happens to be the most economically free country in Europe. Hmmm... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage",,Anonymous,Ron Pepe.jpg,ivlqrmwf5lRyQIR9SvUOWw==,,,1498133283 130935418,130943278,2017-06-22 12:08:35,">>130942844 The advances one could make by using such an institution as a working virology lab would be glorious though... All the scenarios for HIV transmission are there, and scientists would have no regulations limiting them... Think of the bigger picture.",,Anonymous,download.jpg,tvovwI6Qw7+7KTIQG8QE7w==,,,1498133315 130935418,130943382,2017-06-22 12:09:42,Do i belong here?,,Anonymous,,,,,1498133382 130935418,130943497,2017-06-22 12:10:59,">>130943382 That depends. Do you believe that taxation and regulation are the best ways to help the environment, or do you believe that property rights would do a better job at that? If the latter is the case, then you're welcome here",,Anonymous,,,,,1498133459 130935418,130943630,2017-06-22 12:12:37,">>130943382 Eco-capitalism is the ultimate redpill. Hail Musk.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1498133557 130935418,130943736,2017-06-22 12:13:27,">>130943497 >do you believe that property rights would do a better job at that? Would you care to elaborate?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498133607 130935418,130943767,2017-06-22 12:13:51,">>130943278 I don't care. Fuck off this isn't the Thread for you. Get aids.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498133631 130935418,130943907,2017-06-22 12:15:03,">>130943736 https://mises.org/library/libertarian-manifesto-pollution https://mises.org/library/law-property-rights-and-air-pollution",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498133703 130935418,130943996,2017-06-22 12:16:02,">>130943630 Im the art guy who wants to be a dictator. Must reads on eco-capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498133762 130935418,130944040,2017-06-22 12:16:30,">>130935418 Are homosexuals allowed to exist in a libertarian society?",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1498133790 130935418,130944202,2017-06-22 12:18:03,">>130944040 Sure. Just not on anyone's property who doesn't want them there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498133883 130935418,130944228,2017-06-22 12:18:17,">>130943907 Tks anon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498133897 130935418,130944242,2017-06-22 12:18:22,">>130943996 Damn, I dunno. The two files sent by the british anon may be okay, but I dunno.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1498133902 130935418,130944393,2017-06-22 12:20:08,">>130944202 What If i dont want them near my children?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134008 130935418,130944445,2017-06-22 12:20:40,">>130944040 Depends on what standards your covenant and community sets. If we take it for granted that heterosexuality is superiour to homosexuality, then it has the advantage in a free market. That is: >Communities form with different social standards (e.g. pro or anti homo) >Communities that promote good social standards (e.g. heterosexuality) will do better and thus there will be more of them Basically, let the community handle it. See pic related.",,Anonymous,covenant_aesthetic.jpg,c4E24JKB2goVPre5AzPJ2Q==,GB,,1498134040 130935418,130944517,2017-06-22 12:21:32,">>130944393 Fags don't have a right to hang around your children. They can fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498134092 130935418,130944690,2017-06-22 12:23:22,">>130944393 Then keep your children away from them. You cannot force a property owner to keep them out if he wants them in, though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134202 130935418,130944756,2017-06-22 12:24:08,">>130944517 This is what makes our ideology superior. Every single one can do whatever he wants to do, as long as the property belongs to him and it doesn't violate the NAP. I feel so proud of us guys.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1498134248 130935418,130944775,2017-06-22 12:24:30,">>130939709 it's just a small price we have to pay",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134270 130935418,130944786,2017-06-22 12:24:37,">>130944690 What If they are the teachers in their school and i have no other options?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134277 130935418,130944867,2017-06-22 12:25:34,,,Anonymous,CxVUcuiBqeZIS1H31ofFWqT4GW3UZMr1v5PxRBO2uJQ.jpg,OHDkr80gRq0D7HSMxqeIhQ==,,,1498134334 130935418,130944912,2017-06-22 12:26:02,">>130944786 Did you see my post here? >>130944445",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498134362 130935418,130944947,2017-06-22 12:26:22,">>130944786 You always have other options in liberland.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134382 130935418,130945062,2017-06-22 12:27:38,">>130944786 But no, your hate for fags cannot get them banned from society at large. That's kind of the point. But if you have a little society of your own, do what you want, just don't violate the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134458 130935418,130945111,2017-06-22 12:28:14,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWpb8jd6uQ8 So I made this today, what do you think?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498134494 130935418,130945162,2017-06-22 12:28:47,">>130944786 >>130944947 this. It's the reason why free market exists. You don't want commie mugabe-worshipping shitskins like the BLM idiot who posted before? There will always be someone else you can ask to.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1498134527 130935418,130945216,2017-06-22 12:29:21,">>130944786 >i have no other options That seems like an issue way more common with states. The state currently will enforce employment standards that prohibit discrimination on such criteria. With decentralization freedom of choice is maximized so you should be able to find what you're looking for.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134561 130935418,130945274,2017-06-22 12:30:03,">>130945111 k o r w i n w a v e/10",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498134603 130935418,130945500,2017-06-22 12:32:27,">>130945111 ruined a perfectly good blank banshee song/10",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134747 130935418,130945502,2017-06-22 12:32:28,">>130944912 So, let me see If i understand, Sorry, not native english speaker. If i own the property i can do whatever i want?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134748 130935418,130945569,2017-06-22 12:33:04,">>130945502 As long as you don't violate the NAP",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134784 130935418,130945607,2017-06-22 12:33:31,Fuck Donald Trump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498134811 130935418,130945709,2017-06-22 12:34:49,">>130945062 That sounds... Pretty awesome.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134889 130935418,130945784,2017-06-22 12:35:29,Who are these people in pic related?I only knew Hoppe because of memes.,,Anonymous,1492946644229m.jpg,l7//YXZ1S0+SAcgQ28RN3A==,,,1498134929 130935418,130945837,2017-06-22 12:36:05,">>130945569 Sry for beeing a newfag, whats the NAP again?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498134965 130935418,130945966,2017-06-22 12:37:36,">>130945784 Rothbard, Ron Paul, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Bastiat, Mises, Hayek.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498135056 130935418,130946059,2017-06-22 12:38:30,">>130945837 Non aggression principle. Just don't be the initiate violence, threaten or steal from people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498135110 130935418,130946133,2017-06-22 12:39:13,">>130945784 Murray Rothbard Ron Paul Hoppe Ayn Rand I forget, looks like Friedman but he wasn't really libertarian Ludwig Von Mises Frederic Bastiat Friedrich Von Hayek",,Anonymous,,,,,1498135153 130935418,130946179,2017-06-22 12:39:43,">>130945966 thanks!",,Anonymous,molymeme ok.jpg,fDeXz9c98h29mRC1zgc/QA==,,,1498135183 130935418,130946187,2017-06-22 12:39:47,">>130946059 But if im beeing attacked? Can i bash their skull?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498135187 130935418,130946209,2017-06-22 12:40:01,,,Anonymous,customLogo.jpg,wp7f2u61MezSrdWqgtWIdQ==,US,,1498135201 130935418,130946222,2017-06-22 12:40:08,">>130945966 checked so it is Friedman? Dude shouldn't be on there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498135208 130935418,130946336,2017-06-22 12:41:26,">>130945966 >>130946133 >>130946222 I've heard it's Ralph Raico, not Friedman.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498135286 130935418,130946411,2017-06-22 12:42:07,">>130946209 >Egoism Isn't Egoism Stirner's?",,Anonymous,5pdkedpoliticalcompass1130283.png,8lOsWF9Bm2OQPkN4EVStmQ==,GB,,1498135327 130935418,130946514,2017-06-22 12:43:17,">>130946187 Absolutely, we're not pacifists. If you don't defend yourself you're pretty much a fag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498135397 130935418,130946528,2017-06-22 12:43:25,">>130946336 yeah that's the guy I was told last time I asked. I don't know his stuff.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498135405 130935418,130946796,2017-06-22 12:46:03,">>130946187 Why do you think we love guns so much? I mean besides them just being awesome.",,Anonymous,1497875403999m.jpg,c3LV1Xo1MdJG0K/kocph1A==,,,1498135563 130935418,130947219,2017-06-22 12:49:58,"Oy vey, libertarians are racist! don't be a bad goy like Ron Paul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAKkv8OS0MY",,Anonymous,,,,,1498135798 130935418,130947268,2017-06-22 12:50:23,">>130942771 I had this idea of convincing enough members of the Libertarian and Constitution Parties to effectively dissolve the Parties and, along with key Paleo-Conservative Republicans who hate their cuckservative brethren, star.t a new party in a mass event. I had this idea for a ""Meritocratic Party"". Declare the Republican Party a failure to the right and vow to push it to the ""center"" (which I view, essentially, as a giant Middle ground Fallacy anyway) and claim the right in its stead. Invite all Libertarians, Constitution Party members, and Paleocons disgusted with the GOP and form this new Meritocratic Party. It would be necessary to get a bunch of big name supporters to simultaneously endorse it and even convert some big name celebs in a surprise event. Can't be a ""minor"" party like the old Libertarians, this has to be a threat as a major one on it's inception. Imagine if Trump made this statement while also extending an apologetic olive branch to PaleoConservatism while also expressing his disdain for neocons, RINOs, cuckservatives, and ""crypto-Democrats"" (as I like to say). Imagine. Got the idea from Bill Whittle's (superold) ""Piranha Party"" Afterburner. Meritocrat Piranhas? In this new 3 party America the new Republicans in the """"center"""" would be able to say the this society is a Constitutional Representative *Republic* and their party simply reflects this reality. So then the Democrats and Meritocrats to either side must say that their intent to do is is to modify the society with more Democracy and Meritocracy to the left/right respectively. The objective evil and inferior of the Democratic part would be made know through simple observation. See the reason the Libertarian PARTY was a bad idea is because it presents an unclear picture and avenue of attack for the left. An ""Authoritarian party"" would never be made and for the same reason the Libertarian never should have. Even though Libertarianism is king.",,Anonymous,Piranha Party.jpg,U7IXcteo5IgjgMBx4LVZnA==,US,,1498135823 130935418,130947271,2017-06-22 12:50:23,"Libertarianbros, how do we eliminate the biggest distortion in the world economy: immigration laws?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498135823 130935418,130947305,2017-06-22 12:50:43,">>130946222 Why don't you consider him a libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498135843 130935418,130947880,2017-06-22 12:56:03,">>130947305 He's a central bank darling. He was basically a neocon towards the end of his life. Also didn't he have a primary role in setting up the income tax? He was great on espousing the virtues of the free market, but I feel like his other issues preclude me from classifying him as a libertarian. His son is way better imo.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498136163 130935418,130947956,2017-06-22 12:56:46,">>130947271 We should close the borders and deport all the communists. Don't be retarded. the state shouldn't be involved with border policy. If we, the people don't want big goverment voting spics flooding our lands we dont have to accept them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498136206 130935418,130947969,2017-06-22 12:56:55,">>130947305 https://youtu.be/PNtrU1YlqwE",,Anonymous,,,,,1498136215 130935418,130947978,2017-06-22 12:57:00,">>130946411 And Rand's, her Egoism is simply superior to Stirner's and both of their Egoism is simply a case of convergent evolution from Aristotle. Which is why Rand said ""I acknowledge a sole debt to Aristotle, who was the only philosopher that ever influenced me"". By which she meant Aristotle was kept asa debt and all else was discarded. Stirner does indeed delve deeper into Egoism which is why I love the man, but Rand simply used an Egoist base, whose particular flavor she developed herself, and used it to make Objectivism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498136220 130935418,130948006,2017-06-22 12:57:18,">>130947305 Libertarians, real ones = classical liberalism anarcho-capitalists are just communists wearing a mask",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498136238 130935418,130948080,2017-06-22 12:58:04,">>130947956 Borders are enforced with government violence. You want to use government force to prevent me from freely associating with ""spics"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498136284 130935418,130948366,2017-06-22 13:00:49,">>130948006 >a leaf A leaf, everybody.",,Anonymous,bait.png,Mah5HWfShoIeoVVl6OqnTg==,,,1498136449 130935418,130948417,2017-06-22 13:01:25,">>130947880 >He's a central bank darling. He's one of the most influential critics of the Fed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAoG-l3uMks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedman's_k-percent_rule >He was basically a neocon towards the end of his life. Uwot m8. If you're American you should probably thank him for helping end the draft. Without him you might've ended up dead in a sand dune. >Also didn't he have a primary role in setting up the income tax? Not sure what you mean. You're getting it confused with his idea of the negative income tax?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498136485 130935418,130948525,2017-06-22 13:02:28,">>130948080 Open borders is an anti-libertarian concept. We libertarians do not believe in “free migration” as an abstract concept. What we do believe in are property rights and the non-initiation of the use of force. Open borders is not a lack of intervention, make no mistake in seeing open borders for what it really is: The state claiming a right to choose who may use land that the state does not rightfully own. By indiscriminately allowing immigrants into the state's territory they are granted access to all public property. All roads, housing, schools, hospitals and the list goes on. The state acquires and maintains all of these properties through the initiation of force by means of taxation. Public property is illegitimate. May I also mention thanks to the civil rights act commercial property owners can no longer discriminate as they see fit. being that these people have open access to live in public housing they cannot be discriminated against when they apply for jobs. it is quite literally forced intergration. Open Borders is an assault on private property. abolish the welfare state and the civil rights act first.",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1498136548 130935418,130948618,2017-06-22 13:03:23,">>130948417 Must've mixed him up with someone else on the Fed. Coulda swore it was him. As for neocon, he was all pro war and wasn't he pro Greenspan as well? I'm pretty sure that Woods show I posted goes into it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498136603 130935418,130949013,2017-06-22 13:07:11,">>130935418 guys please give me libertarian novels, books and tv shows or something",,Anonymous,,,,,1498136831 130935418,130949130,2017-06-22 13:08:27,">>130948417 according to Block in that Woods show he was in favor of fiat currency and the fed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498136907 130935418,130949311,2017-06-22 13:10:18,">>130949013 Fuck off commie",,Anonymous,7122S6p7XTL.jpg,pYvXUDNfKDDuBmoeuMZD8A==,,,1498137018 130935418,130949379,2017-06-22 13:11:03,">>130948618 >he was all pro war >He supported US involvement in the Second World War and initially supported a hard line against Communism, but moderated over time.[77] However Friedman did state in a 1995 interview that he is an anti-interventionist.[78] He opposed the Gulf War and the Iraq War.[77] In a spring 2006 interview, Friedman said that the USA's stature in the world had been eroded by the Iraq War, but that it might be improved if Iraq were to become a peaceful and independent country.[79] >pro Greenspan I've heard a lot of people praising him. Just because someone does something beneficial even if it is through something that shouldn't exist and he ends up applauding it I wouldn't discount him as a libertarian. That's like saying he's not a libertarian for trying to improve a dictatorship under Pinochet. >Woods show I'll watch it. Woods is all right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498137063 130935418,130949475,2017-06-22 13:12:06,"What if I accidentaly violate the NAP emotionally with a grill and want to make piece again with said grill, how does AnCap make it works? PS: have a membol",,Anonymous,AnCap_Uncopyrighted.jpg,swtqUMqlUSr5Z8WWQBaSzw==,PT,,1498137126 130935418,130949613,2017-06-22 13:13:30,">>130949311 thanks bro. I'm redpilling a qt and she is starting to ask me for novels and media. Unfortunately i'm a lowlife dumb redneck and idk what to say. Yhanks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498137210 130935418,130949778,2017-06-22 13:15:07,">>130949613 She doesn't give a fuck about politics, she's feigning interest as to not be rude, autist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498137307 130935418,130949831,2017-06-22 13:15:41,">>130949130 Yea he was a monetarist when the fiat currency got implemented. People make mistakes. He then changed his mind and eventually came up with the k-percent rule that basically eliminates bankers fucking with the money supply and interest rates. He also talked about the good cryptocurrencies could do when the internet became a thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498137341 130935418,130949855,2017-06-22 13:15:59,">>130949475 >Violate NAP emotionally. No such thing. What did you do?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498137359 130935418,130949893,2017-06-22 13:16:24,">>130949778 just tell me libertarian books and novels, something.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498137384 130935418,130949957,2017-06-22 13:17:10,">>130949475 Woman, children, and non-whites don't fall under the NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498137430 130935418,130950089,2017-06-22 13:18:45,">>130949475 The NAP applies to property, not emotions. If you want to get her back and she refuses, just call the McSlavers™",,Anonymous,1497190911016.gif,7pZvZ44uzKuuTkHuR5YRVQ==,,,1498137525 130935418,130950455,2017-06-22 13:22:38,">>130949893 >""Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market"" by Murray Rothbard >""Democracy: the God that Failed"" by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >""Anatomy of the State"" by Murray Rothbard you're welcome",,Anonymous,,,,,1498137758 130935418,130950813,2017-06-22 13:26:04,">>130935418 These are my favorite threads",,Anonymous,,,,,1498137964 130935418,130951019,2017-06-22 13:28:06,">>130949855 I dindu nofin, lel Actually just a bit of over the top drama game. But she doesn't give a shit about me so I just pulled out all emotional investment from her person. I wish her well, hope she finds a good guy who makes her happy. PS: have anoder memboli",,Anonymous,AnCap_Jesus_Aparition.jpg,IwevkI61WKFnE+GEMarVjg==,PT,,1498138086 130935418,130951081,2017-06-22 13:28:45,">>130950089 lel",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498138125 130935418,130951107,2017-06-22 13:29:00,">>130951019 saved",,Anonymous,,,,,1498138140 130935418,130951531,2017-06-22 13:32:58,">>130951107 Have moar memboli AnCap brah",,Anonymous,1496514066511.jpg,faxbzs6COyYm+Jay6ntSxA==,PT,,1498138378 130935418,130951647,2017-06-22 13:34:06,">>130951019 You done goofed. Either you're too autistic or she's a dumb chick. When you take out all emotional investment it's over. Don't do that unless you really want to end it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498138446 130935418,130952300,2017-06-22 13:40:47,">>130951647 It never started, my autism always reaches levels that shouldn't be possible when I really like a grill (that's why I don't want relationship anymoar, I'm damaged guds). Was just interested in hearing the AnCap perspective on thsese kind of things. She's not dumb, she's just a bit weird (actually in a endearing way). PS: moar membol",,Anonymous,1492550073199.jpg,X1FMJXXT/ufGNB5S4uO0xg==,PT,,1498138847 130935418,130952964,2017-06-22 13:47:00,">>130952300 >Be too autistic to have relationship >Ask Libertarians for advice on how to not be autistic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498139220 130935418,130953096,2017-06-22 13:48:07,">>130951531 This one's fucking dumb",,Anonymous,,,,,1498139287 130935418,130954037,2017-06-22 13:57:41,Bump,,Anonymous,tmp_23598_Screenshot_20170620_121155_1451934903.png,E5RrfGWLtad3Gw5ZzLDrIQ==,US,,1498139861 130935418,130954564,2017-06-22 14:02:53,">>130952964 It was just to see what AnCap's perspective. LET ME HAVE MY FON ANON. PS: moar memboli",,Anonymous,1492973408629.jpg,QCAxVbQAtMJCVlxBMjQ2bQ==,PT,,1498140173 130935418,130954682,2017-06-22 14:04:11,">>130952300 Some serious advise tho, /sortyourselfout/ sounds like you aren't confident enough. Go to the gym, get a good paying job anything to bring your value up. You'll feel a lot better about getting chicks when you make more money than all the Chads you know.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498140251 130935418,130954715,2017-06-22 14:04:33,,,Anonymous,mcambulance_saves.png,Z1B892IcGCKJouzZODOx8Q==,GB,,1498140273 130935418,130955063,2017-06-22 14:08:02,">>130954682 I actually had no prob using tinder to pull foreign grills on vacation, so I'm just getting addicted to physical training so I can join FFL. Won't say no to some easy pussy, but ain't gonna lose much moar time getting maybe girls to say yes (I was obsessed with game for some years and although not a elite playa I had my successes and it felt rather meh). PS: have a IRL pimp pepe",,Anonymous,xuyWIIp.jpg,XhXYuJkWLOP0vnJ+SpiTaQ==,PT,,1498140482 130935418,130955229,2017-06-22 14:09:42,">>130938319 Actually toll roads would develop in ancap, which would be enhanced with tracking technology and special priority lanes would probably develop.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498140582 130935418,130955284,2017-06-22 14:10:22,">>130955063 So what's the problem? You want a real girlfriend that you get along with?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498140622 130935418,130955387,2017-06-22 14:11:28,">>130955229 Communist sympathizer, roads are not welcome here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498140688 130935418,130955670,2017-06-22 14:13:54,">>130935418 alright boys, in the pastebin it says we support palestine. how do i justify the support of palestine against israeli invaders, but also support america's existence as a nation, because the situation of the indians is similar to that of the palestinians. >>130938319 needs /rng/ or /sng/ whatever the fuck they're calling it now as the worst flagbearer, although that thread is not frequently up enough to make it worth it to put on the picture.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498140834 130935418,130955889,2017-06-22 14:16:02,">>130955670 The hell is /rng/ or /sng/ anyway?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498140962 130935418,130956009,2017-06-22 14:17:17,">>130955889 Strasserfags and Leftypol trying to make real Socialism cool with Nazis.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498141037 130935418,130956147,2017-06-22 14:18:25,">>130952300 Impressive meme",,Anonymous,,,,,1498141105 130935418,130956722,2017-06-22 14:23:20,">>130955889 strasserites, national bolshevism, other strains of racist communism. they need to be physically removed, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498141400 130935418,130957167,2017-06-22 14:27:23,">>130955387 Well probably tractor tracks would be a common trait of commercial vehicles, and flying cars might be a thing. There would be initiative to out-engineer the problem. But roads would still be a thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498141643 130935418,130957451,2017-06-22 14:30:04,"Evening guys. Im on the way to creating an infographic about private cities, the incentives they generate, how they would deal with security, modular development, etc. Got any ideas you think I might not have already thought about?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498141804 130935418,130957728,2017-06-22 14:32:29,">>130957167 Take your wild theories elsewhere. We don't take kindly to roads around here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498141949 130935418,130957904,2017-06-22 14:34:02,">>130950455 thank u",,Anonymous,dumbcatsz.jpg,R5R3paG+WV5muRfEpo+T+g==,,,1498142042 130935418,130958243,2017-06-22 14:37:11,">>130942771 You just need to do away with the libertarian name and go for a decentralizing approach. It will end in libertarianism anyway, but plebs don't know that.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498142231 130935418,130958429,2017-06-22 14:38:56,">>130956147 Thnks brah. Have moar. I don't even play Eve, but that game is AnCap: The Game for sure, lel",,Anonymous,1492550982759.jpg,DWrddP9ofqQlpx9UxnocpQ==,PT,,1498142336 130935418,130958630,2017-06-22 14:41:09,">>130955284 No problem here. I just wanted to see what would be an AnCap perspective on that becouse I think she might be a lolbertarian, and I was curiouse about you pplz views on things and shiet. PS: have catbol",,Anonymous,1492554809676.jpg,ztCWb2rcgHozlNCecBWE2w==,PT,,1498142469 130935418,130958682,2017-06-22 14:41:41,">>130945111 WolnoŚć, własnoŚć, sprawiedliwoŚć!",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498142501 130935418,130958925,2017-06-22 14:44:35,">>130958630 Chicks are too dumb to have serious political and philosophical convictions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498142675 130935418,130959122,2017-06-22 14:46:50,">>130958243 Like how Pinochet ended in Socialist leanings of the current government now?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498142810 130935418,130959294,2017-06-22 14:48:56,">>130959122 He didn't decentralise tho', he just purged and free marketed.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498142936 130935418,130959395,2017-06-22 14:50:03,">>130942935 we need to create a law book and a religion about non aggression. then we need to forcre everyone to either be a agnosticist, atheist or believing in that religion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498143003 130935418,130959474,2017-06-22 14:50:56,">>130959122 Also, does anyone have a definitive word on what happened to Galt's Gulch Chile? From back when I heard about it 'failing' it sounded like a kike shill hating libertarians and ancaps started the project and hoarded people's money without making good on the deal, not allowing people a base to migrate to to kickstart the economy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498143056 130935418,130959506,2017-06-22 14:51:14,">>130958925 I know but this one it's actually a non-retard. > In b4 AWALT I wish her well, I think we're both weird af and it would be a very unstable relationship. I'm kinda surprised she didn't had a bf already when I meet her, interesting gal.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498143074 130935418,130959517,2017-06-22 14:51:22,">>130959395 I'd be down for a more aggressive Libertarian manifesto.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,US,,1498143082 130935418,130959536,2017-06-22 14:51:36,">>130942771 no",,Anonymous,,,,,1498143096 130935418,130959665,2017-06-22 14:53:00,"Could we theoreticly buy a nuclear weapon, establish an an-cap society and fuck with the whole world?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498143180 130935418,130959681,2017-06-22 14:53:12,">>130946514 unprovoked we are pacifist. but we figth back when someone starts aggression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498143192 130935418,130959962,2017-06-22 14:56:03,">>130959681 That is by definition, not pacifism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498143363 130935418,130960001,2017-06-22 14:56:28,">>130939123 fuck me, I can't.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498143388 130935418,130960048,2017-06-22 14:56:52,">>130959665 It'd be pretty sweet to be the capitalist North Korea that's for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498143412 130935418,130960057,2017-06-22 14:56:56,">>130940919 Thanks, Italy. You're right, of course.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498143416 130935418,130960067,2017-06-22 14:57:02,">>130959665 exclude ""establish an ancap society"" and you describe what israel did. so i would say yes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498143422 130935418,130960094,2017-06-22 14:57:16,">>130959962 They chill until they get real. Or something.",,Anonymous,1496522233069.jpg,SxL2QSFLScODswB6FqRm/A==,PT,,1498143436 130935418,130960191,2017-06-22 14:58:13,">>130959665 ancap society would either collapse due to some retard with a tank and a shopping centre, or the whole thing just melts down to feudalism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498143493 130935418,130960819,2017-06-22 15:04:26,">>130960094 No, pacifists don't get real at all. They just take the beating.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498143866 130935418,130961177,2017-06-22 15:08:06,">>130960819 k",,Anonymous,Pepe_love.jpg,cl/XV+7VIHx9PXrDI3VP4g==,PT,,1498144086 130935418,130961670,2017-06-22 15:13:06,"Ignore jewish controlled opposition threads Ayn Rand was a satanist mossad op. Atlas Shrugged is an illuminati hand book. Ancaps are SJWs are two sides of the same coin. Both serve to usher in zio-masonic cryptofascism. Its probably also worth mentioning that even mid level ancaps are pro-pedophila as long as its a ''consensual market transaction''. The apple doesnt fall far from the tree. We can see through you, and you cant hide anymore. Face it, you dont have any more fronts to hide behind.",,Anonymous,1483065867005.jpg,RGTZOpife0fFJqA7DOiYMg==,IE,,1498144386 130935418,130962150,2017-06-22 15:17:57,">>130961670 Yes we're Jewish controlled opposition. That's why we want to gas the ZOG.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498144677 130935418,130962299,2017-06-22 15:19:14,">>130940549 French healthcare went bankrupt 10 years only after its inception. It's been digging that hole ever since. I pity the future generation for which the market will no longer offer cheap loans. They will inherit decades if not centuries of debt... If the public system was so good, why do private hospitals and doctors exist ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1498144754 130935418,130962307,2017-06-22 15:19:17,">>130961670 Inderesting points pasta brah, How is Atlas Shrugged is an illuminati hand book? Becouse it doesn't condone collectivism?",,Anonymous,1496516668203.jpg,xF97px9orvKPYOT+zivkKw==,PT,,1498144757 130935418,130962431,2017-06-22 15:20:24,">>130960048 north korea wouldn't be north korea if they were capitalist, as confirmed by this capcha",,Anonymous,second helicopter capcha in like a week.png,zrRxZqkm0KcxoEBVyYxCcQ==,,,1498144824 130935418,130963181,2017-06-22 15:28:07,">>130962307 Its a code book. Re-read it. The operatives that use this place as a springboard are getting a bit annoyed with the level of unironic adherence to theories exposing the control grid. So their trying to swing away from ''ironic'' ethno-nationalism and make ancap/libertarianism cool again. The problem is, its not working. What they had originally intended as irony has been taken literally and theres a sweat breaking over the alt right being exposed as controlled opposition. Ignore what these people say their ideology is, and instead understand them as different fronts to be employed at different times, for different reasons towards the same agenda. The ancap institutes, just like the Soros institutes are controlled by the same people.",,Anonymous,1496962402372.jpg,4FH7XttDtWFgLK0uM2CpJg==,IE,,1498145287 130935418,130963593,2017-06-22 15:31:58,">>130963181 Citation for the Mises institute being ZOG funded?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498145518 130935418,130963656,2017-06-22 15:32:40,">>130963181 BTW, this applies equally to various entho-nationalist groups (Richard Seymore, David Duke ect) - all controlled opposition. Youd be surprised by how many national socialist groups are part of the grid.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1498145560 130935418,130963876,2017-06-22 15:34:38,">>130963656 Richard Spensor* i meant. Seen here with Barbra Bush (Alister Crowleys granddaughter). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT9lhSuWFfk The world as you know it is a lie",,Anonymous,a658c7fbea79dbe42561e2d9de14b43d1485261975_full.jpg,44LN3Rjos0xAJnA38L5K1g==,IE,,1498145678 130935418,130964739,2017-06-22 15:42:11,">>130962299 >If the public system was so good, why do private hospitals and doctors exist ? To screw over the plebs. Meanwhile the elites go their private schools and hospitals or just pay someone to get better treatment. Equality has always been a scam.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498146131 130935418,130964765,2017-06-22 15:42:28,">>130935418 whats the link to discord group?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498146148 130935418,130964939,2017-06-22 15:44:00,>>130964765,,Anonymous,file.png,eXF8xxG1OXEem7WF2rvGDg==,GB,,1498146240 130935418,130965162,2017-06-22 15:45:57,im very new to discord i dont get how to use that >>130964939,,Anonymous,,,,,1498146357 130935418,130965259,2017-06-22 15:46:57,">>130946411 Yeah I do think that those ideologies listed should be added to the OP, I don't know what the /lrg/ consensus is on le spook man but those ideologies are at least tangentially related to the ""libertarian right,"" purple square on the political compass at least.",,Anonymous,IMG_2874.jpg,TGfwR5dwAm7rNwH7QU58Aw==,US,,1498146417 130935418,130965369,2017-06-22 15:47:56,">>130965162 Press the + icon in the server list at the side, press join and enter the letters/numbers",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498146476 130935418,130965473,2017-06-22 15:49:00,">>130965259 Egoism is left wing though, it's anti-private property and not capitalistic. They love it on /leftypol/.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498146540 130935418,130965678,2017-06-22 15:51:03,">>130965259 i wouldn't mind. some of stirner's ideas are good, some weren't though.",,Anonymous,1497480387496.png,9PAv6rv106FUFLvuDOVKDA==,,,1498146663 130935418,130966041,2017-06-22 15:54:35,"Haven't been here for a few months, has anybody talked about the possibility of China turning to free-market capitalism within a generation? I talked to a Chinese guy and he said all the commies from the Cultural Revolution are getting old, and they have Hong Kong and the Special Economic Zones that are an obvious role model. What are the (huge) consequences of this? Will China rule the world? Might as well throw the huge Brazilian libertarian movement in huge measure, do you think it is likely that they will have free-market capitalism soon?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498146875 130935418,130966300,2017-06-22 15:56:55,">>130935418 Agorist checking in. Yes we are allies, dealwithit.jpg.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498147015 130935418,130966366,2017-06-22 15:57:28,">>130965678 Anprim should be below ancap desu Fits with the style of the meme",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498147048 130935418,130966692,2017-06-22 16:00:30,">>130966041 >China turning to free-market capitalism Their real estate bubble is ridiculous. Every time it looks like it's gonna crash they just pump the market with more subsidies. That's why they're building all those huge skyscrapers with no one in them. It's free cash and the more floors the more cash you get. I doubt they're gonna be enthusiastic about the free market when the bubble pops and the government blames it on the free market.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498147230 130935418,130966721,2017-06-22 16:00:52,">>130966366 if i'm right, whoever created the meme put them in descending order of left-right economics. i've seen anprim is associated with the left, so i guess they have as well.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498147252 130935418,130966847,2017-06-22 16:02:10,">>130936444 Not Fascist Rome, Italy, or Germany. You might know economics, but you don't understand the european soul mr. (((Von Mises)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1498147330 130935418,130967459,2017-06-22 16:07:52,">>130966847 Fair enough. But do you understand American soul? The fire of freedom Burns deep within us. Civil rights was the final nail in the Libertarian shoah. A disgrace to our people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498147672 130935418,130968575,2017-06-22 16:18:15,">>130935418 >libertarian >believes in borders Which is it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498148295 130935418,130968804,2017-06-22 16:20:23,">>130968575 see >>130948525 and pic related",,Anonymous,lrg_open_borders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,GB,,1498148423 130935418,130968996,2017-06-22 16:22:18,">>130968575 Don't be a retard. The state has no business regulating the borders. This does not mean borders have no place in a libertarian society. It's the roads argument just because the government shouldn't force is to pay for roads does not mean we don't want roads. We want borders to be privately managed that way the immigration policy better represents the proprietors within those borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498148538 130935418,130969013,2017-06-22 16:22:30,">>130935418 I used to be AnCap until I realized striving for ""Freedom"" is as stupid as the left striving for ""Equality"". They are both abstract concepts always out of reach.That there is not such thing as ""individualism"" or ""Collectivism"". >The strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack! I strive for TRUTH and what is RIGHT! Not the ""freedom"" to do wrong and be a degenerate. I believe strongly in private property and free enterprise but unrestrained Capitalism seeks nothing more than materialism. it's ultimate goal IS Globalism. It's bottom line is PROFIT over PEOPLE. Your greatest incentive in the free-market is to CORNER the market and pay your workers as little as possible. This does not UNIFIY us brother! There is STRENGTH in UNITIY. And the LEFT is unified like a mass of brained dead zombies moving in lock step … Libertarianism / AnCap stands no chance in combating the Neo-Marxists… Fascism is our only hope. It is more than just a political ideology. It is a SPIRITUAL movement. There is always a hierarchy in society and laws determined by an elite few. And our leaders must have integrity and a will for his nation to succeed. People are programable, and they can be programmed into having strong character or being meek, brainless, drug addicted, degenerative.Take a look at the Children of NAZI Germany. They were dignified, wholesome, strong, and had character. Compare this to the American youth of Today. FASCISM breeds real MEN and WOMEN. Not Transexuals and Whores. No friends, my Nation has a DESTINY... To colonize the universe and transcend our physical bodies together as a unified spiritual force. Most of you are Fascist and don't even realize it yet... a divided mass or property owners will amount to nothing against hordes of Neo-Marxists, I know only Fascism can win this battle as it has nearly 100 years ago. Join me and unify the Right so we can Destroy the toxic Left and enter a NEW GOLDEN AGE!!!",,Anonymous,3408-Elisha_Cuthbert-748x421.jpg,xmVyh6QSnO+uZ5kyNxud2A==,,,1498148550 130935418,130969249,2017-06-22 16:24:40,">>130969013 not reading all this",,Anonymous,,,,,1498148680 130935418,130969752,2017-06-22 16:29:57,">>130968804 Youre completely retarded. Once the immigrant is over the border wall, he organizes rape gangs and they wont just rape your family, but you too. States, with borders, people rewarded for risking their lives. This is the only way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498148997 130935418,130969826,2017-06-22 16:30:39,">>130969013 It would be less cutthroat than you think. With no government to focus on, boycotts would be 100x more effective. And people would also get the idea to crowdfund private eyes and journalists. I am actually not completely confident in Ancapism in the current age, I would prefer it to come into fruition after 3-D printing and cybernetic implants mature. Hell, everybody could just live off dividends from investments if technology demonatizes the cost of living. Also why are you afraid of some stupid Marxists in a real fight?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498149039 130935418,130969971,2017-06-22 16:31:53,">>130969752 The immigrant is not getting over the border wall.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498149113 130935418,130970829,2017-06-22 16:40:14,">>130969013 I think you're misinformed about Anarcho-Capitalism and specifically the brand we preach here. We're fighting against the same degenerate soulless ""Libertarians"" and ""AnCaps"" as you. These people are libertine scum. I have no problem with nationalism, hierarchy and social order. My choice of a society would probably look much like yours. All this shit about us only caring about money over our fellow man is garbage. Money is a false God. We just understand the importance of resource management. I have no problem with fighting along side you for our people against the Marxist scum.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498149614 130935418,130971019,2017-06-22 16:42:06,">>130968804 True libertarians are in favor of no borders, not open borders. If you're not against borders upheld with government violence, you're not a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498149726 130935418,130971496,2017-06-22 16:46:58,">>130971019 You guys who go against things as violence are seriously cancer. Those are just fee-fees.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498150018 130935418,130971554,2017-06-22 16:47:43,">>130971019 No idiot. People can make borders for their property. People can support government actions that protect their property. The state still exists, public property still exists. Opening the borders without ending the state would result in property owners having to integrate indiscriminately anyone who walks onto public property into their society. This is not liberty. This is property owners being FORCED to allow all onto his property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498150063 130935418,130971755,2017-06-22 16:49:46,">>130971019 Fuck off leftie REEEEEEEEEEEE! You have no right to enter my property! And the borders of a country are the property of said country, and if you have a democracy then the nation decides. Shitty system but that's how it works you dumb fuck. Who let leftist libertarians in here? I hate you fucks more than statists.",,Anonymous,1494974769884.jpg,x6KfnHpER9jIh2UjmxOm8A==,PL,,1498150186 130935418,130971956,2017-06-22 16:51:46,,,Anonymous,Stages of Libertarian Redpill.png,/yCVyLxXc08n4wtK5PdSew==,US,,1498150306 130935418,130971999,2017-06-22 16:52:15,">>130971755 >>130971554 Do you guys even see how commie you guys sound? Nations own the country?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498150335 130935418,130972059,2017-06-22 16:52:43,">>130971755 >Who let leftist libertarians in here? I hate you fucks more than statists. This, I'd choose Nazi Utopia before left Libertarian Utopia.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498150363 130935418,130972246,2017-06-22 16:54:43,">>130971999 >State a fact >Commie It's a retarded system, but literally everyone can put a claim on some chunk of goverment's money or land because we all pay for it. These are facts, I hate communists more than you can imagine. You should post an argument and stop virtue signalling.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498150483 130935418,130972318,2017-06-22 16:55:23,">>130971999 Read Rothbards Nations by consent, Lew Rockwell's Open borders are an assault on private property. Open borders or even ""no borders"" does not respect property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498150523 130935418,130972383,2017-06-22 16:56:02,">>130971755 >I-I-am a l-ibertarian >gas the kikes >set up a strong state to protect me agaist degeneracy >state must provide me with fresh virgins to procreate muh whtie race sure thing, kiddo. Ancaps always resort to fascism, when the jews start beating them at their own game.",,Anonymous,ancap nazi 3.jpg,tmAULVzRnigkmAeFrMQW+g==,,,1498150562 130935418,130972512,2017-06-22 16:57:03,">>130972246 So I have a share in government property? What if individuals like me want to allow immigrants in? What if private property owners want to rent out and sell their land to foreigners?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498150623 130935418,130972687,2017-06-22 16:58:31,">>130972383 I don't want to gas the kikes, I hate them but I believe the free market and abscence of goverments would force them all to be productive and not steal. I don't need a strong state to protect me against a degeneracy, I just need a voluntary non-degenerate society to live in. The last one I don't give a fuck about. >>130972512 In my country the laws would allow this. I don't know what the fuck are you arguing. Are you asking me for current facts? Or for what an-capistan would look like?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498150711 130935418,130973216,2017-06-22 17:03:27,">>130972059 this",,Anonymous,,,,,1498151007 130935418,130973336,2017-06-22 17:04:31,">>130972383 No one here says their for any of that shit. But in all seriousness I'm all for state enforced helicopter removal of fags like you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498151071 130935418,130973500,2017-06-22 17:05:54,">>130973336 >state enforced helicopter removal Fake libertarian detected.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498151154 130935418,130973636,2017-06-22 17:07:09,">>130973500 Communists are a violation of NAP so it's morally justified. Also if you believe that we can have liberty with all these socialists, communists and democrats? We need a purge. Or a white nation with free market. ( Poland is a socialistic hellhole )",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498151229 130935418,130973813,2017-06-22 17:08:43,">>130972383 >wanting the state to provide you with anything the only kike i want gassed is you and all the other kikes",,Anonymous,1495072418424.gif,JKWpsOgP1oxFaNEIj38Jcw==,US,,1498151323 130935418,130973943,2017-06-22 17:09:48,"Christopher Cantwell said: Nazis ( or white nationalists ) did more for libertarianism than any libertarian ever would have. I agree with this 100% tho' I still hate socialists.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498151388 130935418,130974036,2017-06-22 17:10:40,">>130973636 With so many people in this thread demanding violence state policies in this thread, it sounds like you guys would violate the NAP. Would the violent removal of you people be morally justified?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498151440 130935418,130974204,2017-06-22 17:12:09,Why are so-called libertarians in this thread sucking off Nazis now?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498151529 130935418,130974280,2017-06-22 17:12:48,">>130974036 I'm not a leftist therefore not a cancer on society so no. Read some HHH. 1433",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498151568 130935418,130974793,2017-06-22 17:17:27,">>130974280 Based Poland. I was gonna chime I'm but you represented us perfectly. >>130974036 Pic related is for you. Communists who openly advocate theft and violence are aggressors. What we do and say is defensive.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1498151847 130935418,130975352,2017-06-22 17:23:26,">>130974204 we're not so friendly with nazis, but for the most part we like them better than the leftist faggots like you who go on and on about us being fascists.",,Anonymous,b9a03392f39ca38c20c116b69359319e.jpg,F6fWqrg3/PPnd422sEIg2A==,,,1498152206 130935418,130975353,2017-06-22 17:23:27,"Apparently, Mr Austrian Economics Ludwig von Mises is a left-wing libertarian by this thread's logic. I'm sure he'd be forcefully removed from your psuedo-libertarian society too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498152207 130935418,130975497,2017-06-22 17:24:50,">>130975353 Where is your argument? Because I'm not seeing it.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498152290 130935418,130975638,2017-06-22 17:26:09,">>130975352 You're aware that Rothbard was for open borders up until the 90s, when he adopted the ""paleo-right"" strategy right? In fact, during the 60s and 70s, he associated himself with the Left.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498152369 130935418,130975754,2017-06-22 17:27:23,">>130975497 Is Mises a ""left libertarian""? Would he be forcefully removed from your ideal society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498152443 130935418,130975858,2017-06-22 17:28:30,">>130975353 Can't say I know much about Mises' proclivities, most of us take more after the Paleo bunch, Rothbard, Hoppe and so on. >>130975638 Yes, we're paleos. Rothbard also said after the fact that the left was irredeemable. 90's Rothbard is most woke Rothbard.",,Anonymous,Normal_Ancap.png,0cj87/YtlHkwyisfLCRUVQ==,,,1498152510 130935418,130975993,2017-06-22 17:29:54,">>130975754 I don't know, even if he was he did too much good for the movement to be considered that. Also we're advocating for death of communists, leftists would just be physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498152594 130935418,130976063,2017-06-22 17:30:39,">>130975754 I'm sure mises would be a a guy who wouldn't bother us. whether or not he'd like to live in our ideal society I can't say. I'm sure he wouldn't try to impose his way on us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498152639 130935418,130976532,2017-06-22 17:35:13,"Any of you brothers want to debate how would protecting the environment look in an-capistan? I believe it would be just local courts like ""You filthy kike spew shit into the near pond and it goes to my property let's go to court or else.""",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498152913 130935418,130976582,2017-06-22 17:35:41,HURRRRRRRR DURRRRRRR HURRRRRRRRRRRRR BURRRRRR HURRRRRR DURRRR DURRRR VURRRRRRR MUH ROADS,,Anonymous,,,,,1498152941 130935418,130976832,2017-06-22 17:38:07,">>130975858 More like 90s was when Rothbard was at his most desperate, trying to ride the Pat Buchanan hype to popularize libertarianism after decades of no success.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498153087 130935418,130976964,2017-06-22 17:39:23,">>130976532 when you pollute in ancapistan it must be on your own property, ruining its value or someone else property. either against their will or as a service like a landfill/waste disposal property. If its against their will they gonna fuck you up. its pretty straight foward, I don't think it'd be more of an issue than it is now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498153163 130935418,130977242,2017-06-22 17:42:10,"What proof do you have that healthcare, education or other critical industries would improve under privatisation",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498153330 130935418,130977399,2017-06-22 17:43:40,">>130976832 Paleo Rothbard was brilliant. I read as many of his essays that I can. If you want to write him off as a looney old kook then you're the fake libertarian. Rothbard always said he saw himself as a more extreme american conservative. Thats what I love about him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498153420 130935418,130977500,2017-06-22 17:44:40,">>130977242 >Leaf top fucking kek We had goverment owned restaurants here in Poland, when they were privatising it people were afraid of them being too highly priced or even of starvation. Guess what happened? Same with healthcare. No point in being a doctor if 50% of work is paperwork for goverment. And the profit is shit. That's why the socialistic healthcare system is shit. Also it makes the doctor a slave.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498153480 130935418,130977573,2017-06-22 17:45:25,">>130977242 >healthcare Pic >education https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx6-PHKzHvM",,Anonymous,socialist healthcare4.png,pWTJVFaoWSJXAEkqIhbAKw==,,,1498153525 130935418,130977716,2017-06-22 17:46:53,">>130977242 >wanting the goverment to brainwash your kids.",,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1498153613 130935418,130979248,2017-06-22 18:02:04,Can I get a bump?,,Anonymous,1434746073350.jpg,A3K2RGPEFVeZrvy2Fx6Fjg==,,,1498154524 130935418,130979449,2017-06-22 18:03:55,">>130979248 Bump for liberty and Ron Paul. This guy introduced me to freedom.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498154635 130935418,130980005,2017-06-22 18:09:01,">>130979449 just imagine USA's Obongo years replaced with 8 years of Ron. It makes me have feels for what could have been.",,Anonymous,VyZsRpe.jpg,85FCBy6xTNMmBTK7djNPtQ==,,,1498154941 130935418,130980147,2017-06-22 18:10:22,">>130980005 Too beautiful for this world. Too fucking beautiful. I hate kikes in your goverment.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498155022 130935418,130980632,2017-06-22 18:14:37,">>130980147 I hate them too. They shit everything up.",,Anonymous,1488910637310.jpg,j8LR12YdKTWMEnBNchIDYw==,,,1498155277 130935418,130980848,2017-06-22 18:16:35,"Alright I'm going guys, don't forget to tune into Radical Agenda! 1433 https://christophercantwell.com/",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498155395 130935418,130982326,2017-06-22 18:29:14,">>130980848 How much do you get paid to shill for that podcast?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498156154 130935418,130983318,2017-06-22 18:37:29,">>130938319 No roads should be in green.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498156649 130935418,130983896,2017-06-22 18:41:55,">>130946336 >>130946133 Sorry guys is Milton Friedman.",,Anonymous,milton-friedman-sized.jpg,cLhuQm8couTYU9k2pw7aZw==,,,1498156915 130935418,130984296,2017-06-22 18:45:12,">>130945784 Milton Friedman, Mises, Hayek, Ayn Rand are all proponents of open borders. Even Rothbard was pro open borders most of his career.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498157112 130935418,130984707,2017-06-22 18:48:41,">>130945784 Kill Rand and Friedman, insert Menger and Locke",,Anonymous,,,,,1498157321 130935418,130987223,2017-06-22 19:11:24,">>130982326 Radical Agenda is great. I shill for free.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498158684 130935418,130988661,2017-06-22 19:24:48,">>130977573 https://youtu.be/fFoXyFmmGBQ This guy makes awesome shareable animations",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498159488 130935418,130989019,2017-06-22 19:28:04,">>130984707 Commie fags won't tell you that this is what they desire, this is what communism/socialism produces. >A couple sell body parts, including a human head and the corpse of a child, during the Russian famine",,Anonymous,nintchdbpict000291453186.jpg,mVaCTzp2y+Yqj3F4Wy8ufw==,GB,,1498159684 131065683,131065683,2017-06-23 12:10:17,"Join our discord! - we have alerts when threads are posted, shitposts, and a /comfy/ book club - currently reading Locke's Second Treatise This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. This includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and right-wing reactionary-ism against the left (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, most of them have already been answered many times, so it is recommended you get to grip with the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to argue with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: discord gg jCVRCR3 INTRODUCTION/REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >(Further Reading - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg for a reference) THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_pixel.png,xP6KIZfw7GvOFt8sUL00Lg==,GB,,1498219817 131065683,131067945,2017-06-23 12:35:49,">>131065683 Iv seen so many Ancaps argue that sex with kids is ok as long as its a ''consensual market transaction''. Your not fooling anyone anymore Kabbalah boy",,Anonymous,ae79a34273a5685b1c83a6b95c47aabc94e21b40f517e5f0f4e06ebf8f9519c9_1.jpg,J4Y5MMycH1jIR4rXm2MTjg==,,,1498221349 131065683,131068867,2017-06-23 12:46:47,It's cool guys I'm here to save this thread.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498222007 131065683,131068915,2017-06-23 12:47:18,">>131067945 a child cant give consent to sex before it reaches puberty. pedos btfo",,Anonymous,,,,,1498222038 131065683,131069013,2017-06-23 12:48:32,>Lolbergs unironically support (((Free market capitalism))),,Anonymous,1495051125452.png,okEBELycgXnCIjqXgazU9A==,,,1498222112 131065683,131069097,2017-06-23 12:49:32,Thoughts on Classical Liberalism?,,Anonymous,Liberalism.jpg,ZDnJL0AnzGOzKvN8JL4CEA==,,,1498222172 131065683,131069109,2017-06-23 12:49:36,">>131069013 >what is a covenant",,Anonymous,covenant_aesthetic.jpg,c4E24JKB2goVPre5AzPJ2Q==,GB,,1498222176 131065683,131069120,2017-06-23 12:49:48,">>131067945 Proofs faggot? Screenshots of your own posts with an AnCap flag don't count. Children cannot consent. They are property of their parents until they reach maturity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498222188 131065683,131069224,2017-06-23 12:50:57,">>131069013 >In Public It doesn't work that way faggot. There is no public property in ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498222257 131065683,131069315,2017-06-23 12:51:58,">>131069097 They weren't prepared for the degeneracy of the modern world. If they were they'd be less liberal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498222318 131065683,131069671,2017-06-23 12:55:22,">>131065683 In free market unregulated capitalism how do you prevent then formation of organizations/individuals like the Rothschild's, Rockefellers and George Soros?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1498222522 131065683,131070125,2017-06-23 13:00:47,">>131069671 They won't be able to corrupt our politics when there's no state for them to collude with and create monopolies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498222847 131065683,131071834,2017-06-23 13:20:24,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498224024 131065683,131071891,2017-06-23 13:20:58,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1498224058 131065683,131072070,2017-06-23 13:22:45,BUMP,,Anonymous,AynRand1.png,zup3+2SFCW1GN5YZPSmJjA==,,,1498224165 131065683,131072615,2017-06-23 13:28:54,,,Anonymous,1492539566446.png,IOQ0iXRltoRmh2SoQfoHHg==,,,1498224534 131065683,131072694,2017-06-23 13:29:51,"REMINDER: Capitalism is the first stage of Marxism. Capitalism is not the opposite of communism. The opposite of capitalism would be the same thing as the opposite of communism. Capitalism views economic liberty and self-determination as the highest good. Socialism views economic equity as the highest good. Communism holds economic equality as the highest good. Economic, economic, economic. All three are materialists. True anti-communism is anti-materialism - fascism, folkism, transhumanism, discordianism, etc.",,Anonymous,big car.gif,kXbFrrSSc570Hz1DTuvd0w==,US,,1498224591 131065683,131073204,2017-06-23 13:35:40,>>131072694,,Anonymous,EYxNc1s.jpg,7jP08r2E7qj80iKr160UPQ==,GB,,1498224940 131065683,131073331,2017-06-23 13:37:04,">>131072694 That's just phrasing. I can say you value 'economic irrelevance' or something to that effect as your highest virtue to make the same argument. Our highest good isn't economic liberty per se, it's self-ownership.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498225024 131065683,131073364,2017-06-23 13:37:30,">>131065683 REPORTING IN FROM NOT SO SUNNY SLOVAKIA",,Anonymous,ancap andy.jpg,nJJiImciDuRCuXn4r+lycw==,SK,,1498225050 131065683,131073484,2017-06-23 13:38:53,">>131073331 But economic irrelevance is not the motivation of non-materialists, they simply view economy as a means to an end. Their highest good may be the preservation of folk, culture, tradition, land, or the spread of a faith, or spiritual enlightenment, or ascension from the human body and the material plane.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498225133 131065683,131073510,2017-06-23 13:39:12,">>131072694 fuck off; the biggest difference between capitalists and communists is that they have completely opposite views on property rights; they're not even remotely similar.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498225152 131065683,131073538,2017-06-23 13:39:25,">>131067945 Children don't own themselves fully, and parents don't own them fully either. Therefore, they cannot consent. Read Locke, you mongoloid.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498225165 131065683,131073752,2017-06-23 13:41:46,">>131069013 The logical conclusion of National (((Bolshevism))) is (((international communism))). Just because nobody likes you enough to trade with you doesn't mean it's a bad concept, it just means human action is doing its job to ensure retards like you don't succeed.",,Anonymous,hoppe remove.png,v0xaTHYX88eQb2amKFrEiw==,SK,,1498225306 131065683,131073789,2017-06-23 13:42:08,>>131065683,,Anonymous,abortion.jpg,L3Fch17h2bWLDoVJN9AO0Q==,US,,1498225328 131065683,131073843,2017-06-23 13:42:34,">>131073364 Wassap my dude.",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1498225354 131065683,131073988,2017-06-23 13:44:18,">>131072694 >anti-materialism Acquisition of resources for increased reproductive capabilities is central to human action. Does reading Evola and watching anime make you immune to starvation?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498225458 131065683,131074030,2017-06-23 13:44:51,">>131073364 what's it like in Slovakia? Can you get guns and sheit?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498225491 131065683,131074775,2017-06-23 13:53:00,>>131074030,,Anonymous,communist_points.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,GB,,1498225980 131065683,131074909,2017-06-23 13:54:29,"It's dawned on me that few people in my country want freedom. Is there no safe haven on earth? Are the sneks to be stepped on for all eternity?",,Anonymous,They don't want freedom.jpg,vkF3AoMEtY2MtUV7CI70/w==,,,1498226069 131065683,131075170,2017-06-23 13:57:32,Whats the difference between you and the normal libtards?,,Anonymous,,,,,1498226252 131065683,131075233,2017-06-23 13:58:13,"ANCAP TRAP HAREMS WHEN?!?! > make cute snakes great again",,Anonymous,2153421.jpg,yUaPocYdsMG6DpYlMdLJ/w==,,,1498226293 131065683,131075349,2017-06-23 13:59:25,">>131074030 Pistols for CC, home defense or private security (I hope you like sucking dick if you want CC) for people over 21, general weapons for hunting over 18, and general weapons for sport shooting over 15 I think. You need to have a licence, plus be a hunter/sport shooter to get shotguns and rifles. It sucks, but it's better than nothing.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498226365 131065683,131075398,2017-06-23 14:00:00,">>131075170 Libtard: control other people to fuck with them libertarian: control yourself to fuck with other people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498226400 131065683,131075444,2017-06-23 14:00:32,">>131075170 We hate degeneracy, hate anti-discrimination laws, hate communism and the state in general, and don't want to ABOLISH power - we want to decentralise it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498226432 131065683,131075484,2017-06-23 14:01:03,">>131075233 Hippity hoppity get off my property.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498226463 131065683,131075533,2017-06-23 14:01:39,">>131075444 post qt Slovak girls? >burger jewgling Slovakia to see where it is",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498226499 131065683,131075604,2017-06-23 14:02:26,>>131075233,,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,LatNQtsX/0qiXcA64qB87w==,GB,,1498226546 131065683,131075730,2017-06-23 14:03:49,">>131075484 got you senpai",,Anonymous,1487282810539.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,US,,1498226629 131065683,131075796,2017-06-23 14:04:37,">>131065683 >""""""right"""""" libertarian top jej",,Anonymous,1496935730469.jpg,aZU24MtI206NLE6TNykkdQ==,,,1498226677 131065683,131075798,2017-06-23 14:04:38,">>131075533 >see where it is I see the stereotypes are true then. Kek. Also if you want to see qt Slovak girls, really any of them will do - 8/10 are bangable and 9/10 are not ugly.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498226678 131065683,131075925,2017-06-23 14:05:42,C-can I post here?,,Anonymous,IMG_0157.png,cZlwlPbYS4FjSZ/0xXfWYw==,US,,1498226742 131065683,131076163,2017-06-23 14:08:12,">>131075796 Didn't you mean to say >right """"""libertarian""""""? I am a private fascist guy for you.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498226892 131065683,131076171,2017-06-23 14:08:19,">>131075798 lel, yea, can you tell me where Delaware is? Is there a ""Ms. Slovakia""? if so, what's her name?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498226899 131065683,131076263,2017-06-23 14:09:15,">>131075925 They conflate liberty with abolitionism, so come right in. I got 44% on the liberty scale and I'm an AnCap, shit's ridiculous.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498226955 131065683,131076363,2017-06-23 14:10:31,">>131075233 Fags don't belong here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498227031 131065683,131076482,2017-06-23 14:11:51,">>131076171 Delaware is right south-south-east of DC and east of Maryland on a tiny stretch of land in the mouth of the Potomac river, I think. 3 delegates, voted for Hillary in '16 and Obama in '12. That was off the top of my head. https://t4.aimg.sk/magaziny/Z18X6tnSTEDOXXoZcSGm8A.jpg?t=&h=0As12JY08Cjn0zmQFd0RXA&e=2145916800&v=2 That would be her, I don't follow the scene though.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498227111 131065683,131076585,2017-06-23 14:12:53,">>131075925 >>131076263 NatCaps are welcome here regardless",,Anonymous,D2DP4n9daqXTAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png,RgoD6h0hmEMqNHtg1t0nYg==,GB,,1498227173 131065683,131076800,2017-06-23 14:15:06,">>131076585 >NatCap I hope you know what you're talking about. >it's another Slovakbro shills the Irregulars episode youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw 1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498227306 131065683,131076898,2017-06-23 14:16:05,">>131076482 north north east - close enough though she's cute. I'm going to have to make a trip to eastern Europe and help diversify the gene pool",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498227365 131065683,131076922,2017-06-23 14:16:21,">>131076800 >me >ever knowing what i'm talking about",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498227381 131065683,131077294,2017-06-23 14:20:24,">>131069671 No federal reserve No fractional banking No fiat currency No Jewish control",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498227624 131181604,131181604,2017-06-24 13:32:33,"""Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."" - Frederic Bastiat This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. This includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and right-wing reactionary-ism against the left (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, most of them have already been answered many times, so it is recommended you get to grip with the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to argue with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: discord gg jCVRCR3 INTRODUCTION/REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >(Further Reading - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg for a reference) THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,pol_ancap_logo.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,GB,,1498311153 131181604,131182161,2017-06-24 13:39:05,"Hello fellow libertarians. Can anyone suggest me some good libertarian twitter accounts? Appreciate it",,Anonymous,,,,,1498311545 131181604,131182308,2017-06-24 13:40:59,"Best threads, hail /lrg/ >>131182161 I'm too edgy for Twitter.",,Anonymous,pino2.jpg,9XYAULKNs1oQEYTjADbAmQ==,US,,1498311659 131181604,131182508,2017-06-24 13:43:19,Killing commies is always in defense of non-aggression.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1498311799 131181604,131182804,2017-06-24 13:46:23,">>131181604 >lassez-faire capitalism Good man, Ayn Rand would be proud LfCap>AnCap Reminder that ""Objectivism"" deserves a mention in the OP as it encapsulates Nationalism, Capitalism, Meritocracy, Individualism, and Libertarianism all rolled into one. Posting a realated video. Good old John Galt's 3 hour long speech, from an audiobook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5nhYo5nx4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498311983 131181604,131182978,2017-06-24 13:48:14,">>131182161 > twitter",,Anonymous,1495250921355.jpg,8F3quzU+UHLmgRsZjfLjUQ==,,,1498312094 131181604,131183314,2017-06-24 13:52:19,,,Anonymous,arab_ball_daughters.png,mhxm6ScRET8Mtm4tAinaJA==,US,,1498312339 131181604,131183390,2017-06-24 13:53:24,how do you convince people that medicaid is bad?,,Anonymous,,,,,1498312404 131181604,131183524,2017-06-24 13:55:05,">>131183390 >how do you convince people that medicaid is bad? By throwing them off a helicopter, so to speak.",,Anonymous,airborne_oven.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,GB,,1498312505 131181604,131183752,2017-06-24 13:57:47,Voluntary bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498312667 131181604,131184806,2017-06-24 14:09:52,Is taking your wife permissible in NAP/Islamic law?,,Anonymous,thinkingnap.png,+ptPku9HpMEvzzXzc+ZvHg==,US,,1498313392 131181604,131184871,2017-06-24 14:10:27,">>131184806 Damn autocorrect trying to stop me from talking about rape.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498313427 131181604,131184921,2017-06-24 14:10:49,">>131184806 Women don't have rights.",,Anonymous,arab ball.png,uRNuxpmz3ZZ7Tesh3MVZQg==,SK,,1498313449 131181604,131185044,2017-06-24 14:12:13,">>131184871 Even better.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498313533 131181604,131185159,2017-06-24 14:13:31,">>131184921 Thank you Arab ball. You always clear up the nuanced aspects of Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498313611 131181604,131185205,2017-06-24 14:14:11,"serious question, who will build the roads? no memes",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498313651 131181604,131185237,2017-06-24 14:14:34,">>131182804 >Reminder that ""Objectivism"" deserves a mention in the OP as it encapsulates Nationalism, Capitalism, Meritocracy, Individualism, and Libertarianism all rolled into one. >nationalism didn't Ayn Rand denounce nationalism? Anyway, I don't think mentioning Ayn Rand would do our movement any good since the rest of /pol/ sees Ayn Rand as a selfish Jewish bitch.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498313674 131181604,131185353,2017-06-24 14:15:57,">>131185205 Private corporations. Roads existed before the government decided to become involved in their production, and they're not complicated things",,Anonymous,,,,,1498313757 131181604,131185430,2017-06-24 14:16:50,">>131185205 The people who build the roads build the roads.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498313810 131181604,131185475,2017-06-24 14:17:26,">>131185353 well if private corporations are building the roads, presumably they will have a monopoly and charge me an extortionate rate to use them?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498313846 131181604,131185577,2017-06-24 14:18:26,">>131185159 Don't mention it. We wuz the original Adam Smith and durka. http://archive.is/Ajywm",,Anonymous,arab ball iraq.png,2g/bWCGiPVGHPsNAnTqvFg==,SK,,1498313906 131181604,131185606,2017-06-24 14:18:52,">>131185430 who's going to organise it? are we going to have to form a commune and waste all of our times? or will we all volountarily elect a group of people to sort that sort of thing out for us, and then we can pay them for the service? oaaaaaaaaaaarh.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498313932 131181604,131185615,2017-06-24 14:18:56,">>131185475 Why would you presume a monopoly on all roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498313936 131181604,131185765,2017-06-24 14:20:24,">>131182161 ThatGuy_T Orwell&Goode Michelle Catlin truediltom (Academic Agent)",,Anonymous,,,,,1498314024 131181604,131186036,2017-06-24 14:23:27,">>131185475 If there's more than one, how can you presume monopoly? That's like saying grocery stores have a monopoly on grocery stores... >>131185606 People who know how to build roads. No commune, no wasting time. In a sense yes we would elect the road builders. Customers who need roads built would gravitate to the best road builders and vote with their money.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498314207 131181604,131186041,2017-06-24 14:23:31,">>131185237 Do you really care what the collectevists think?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498314211 131181604,131186109,2017-06-24 14:24:21,">>131185475 They will only have a monopoly on the roads that they own, and competition will drop prices. And does the government not have a monopoly on roads? Does the government charge you with an extortionate rate to use them? The government is comprised of individuals like any corporation, after all. This group merely has the label of government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498314261 131181604,131186181,2017-06-24 14:25:06,">>131185615 well, what else? are you going to have multiple roads running upsides each other? even if you did, you'd still end up with one company owning all the parallel roads if there is no rules in place to prevent monopolies. Not to mention the huge waste of space that would be. What other solution could there be? What is even wrong with the current system we have at the moment?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498314306 131181604,131186231,2017-06-24 14:25:41,">>131186181 https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498314341 131181604,131186330,2017-06-24 14:26:50,">>131185765 thanks!",,Anonymous,,,,,1498314410 131181604,131186436,2017-06-24 14:28:06,What if I am arguing with a statist and he brings up muh rivers. How do you stop someone upstream from taking all the water that flowes through his property?,,Anonymous,,,,,1498314486 131181604,131186523,2017-06-24 14:29:17,You nead to homestead or buy all river first to do that. Good luck doing it.,,Anonymous,,,,,1498314557 131181604,131186678,2017-06-24 14:31:06,"I thought ""KILL ALL COMMIES"" shit was too edgy for me. But today I had a discussion with a few commies. Oh boy, we need helicopters.",,Anonymous,f25c49d91fda4b9b527cd4cce3b02a1a85b916fe0be5823a788f99e10e91a814.png.jpg,YfeDElml4LOd+xs/jkuENg==,,,1498314666 131181604,131186720,2017-06-24 14:31:27,">>131185237 >didn't Ayn Rand denounce nationalism? This is a common and even understandable misunderstanding, what she denounced was Nationalistic Mysticism, where the collectivism of racial groups, economic classes, or the leftist parts of organized religion is replaced the ""Nation"". True Nationalism lies in the affirmation of the societies that free men wish to craft and the self interest (isolationist if they choose) objevtive reality demands they live by. Have a quote: ""Once, you believed it was ‘only a compromise’: you conceded it was evil to live for yourself, but moral to live for the sake of your children. Then you conceded that it was selfish to live for your children, but moral to live for your community. Then you conceded that it was selfish to live for your community, but moral to live for your country. Now, you are letting this greatest of nations be devoured by any scum from any corner of the earth, while you concede that it is selfish to live for your country and that your moral duty is to live for the globe. A man who has no right to life, has no right to values and will not keep them. >selfish Jewish bitch And the understanding they have of her concept (the true nature) of selfishness is leftist, muh feelings, tier. ALL of the parasites she describes in her novels are exactly what are defined in this board as the meddling, commie, collectivist Jew. She was one of the few based Jews. She realized that the constitution was incomplete and flawed, the left is actually right when they say this. But the -ONLY- thing that the founding fathers were missing was a rejection of the primordial evil that is Altruism. Ironically enough for the left, the person that completed the advent of the American constitution (by hetero, white, cis, men reeee) was indeed a woman; just not one of their women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vANA3AGs4Dg She was based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498314687 131181604,131186778,2017-06-24 14:32:01,">>131186109 The difference with a government monopoly, is that in a democratic system we can kick a government out if it starts raising road taxes too much. We cant do that with a corporate monopoly. There is no democracy in corporate monopolies. >>131186036 1) answered here >>131186181 2) so what you're saying is that even in a small village, the street outside my house will be owned by a private company. will that also be applied to the pavement? will i have to pay to walk / drive to the shops?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498314721 131181604,131186894,2017-06-24 14:33:14,">>131186720 >is replaced the ""Nation"" *is replaced with the ""Nation""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498314794 131181604,131186904,2017-06-24 14:33:22,">>131186436 I think that's a homesteading issue. If you were first, he wouldn't have the right. If he were first, he would. In any case, it's probably more a matter of communication than arbitration.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498314802 131181604,131187048,2017-06-24 14:34:44,">>131186231 linking to articles is not constructive in a debate. if you cant explain yourself then you lose",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498314884 131181604,131187123,2017-06-24 14:35:43,"/lrg/, what cryptocurrency is best to mine now?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498314943 131181604,131187212,2017-06-24 14:36:43,">>131187123 Ask /biz/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498315003 131181604,131187276,2017-06-24 14:37:27,">>131185237 Ayn Rand did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,,,,,1498315047 131181604,131187337,2017-06-24 14:38:01,">>131186778 >in a democratic system we can kick a government out if it starts raising road taxes too much Not at all. When has a government ever allowed that to happen? >We cant do that with a corporate monopoly. There is no democracy in corporate monopolies. True, but corporate monopolies can only exist with the aid of the government, so this isn't a topic worth discussing here, since we are strictly against government intervention in the market. The market becomes purely democratic when it is left alone by the government",,Anonymous,,,,,1498315081 131181604,131187377,2017-06-24 14:38:22,">>131187048 I'm not debating with you. I have no obligation to sit here and talk to you and refute your points i've heard a million times before. If you actually care you'll read the article, if not you're just arguing to be edgy and prove yourself right, and no matter what point I come out with you'll make an unrealistic scenario to counter it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498315102 131181604,131187457,2017-06-24 14:39:25,">>131187048 Then he loses, but he's right. If you really want to learn about monopoly you'd read that link. That seems to be your major hangup.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498315165 131181604,131188161,2017-06-24 14:47:07,">>131186678 It's cool man the nap only applies to people, which commies are not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498315627 131181604,131188220,2017-06-24 14:47:47,"Hey /lrg/ tell me what you think: I had this idea of convincing enough members of the Libertarian and Constitution Parties to effectively dissolve the Parties and, along with key Paleo-Conservative Republicans who hate their cuckservative brethren, start a new party in a mass event; the ""Meritocratic Party"". Declare the Republican Party a failure to the right and vow to push it to the ""center"" (which I view, essentially, as a giant Middle ground Fallacy anyway) and claim the right in its stead. Invite all Libertarians, Constitution Party members, and Paleocons disgusted with the GOP and form this new Meritocratic Party. It would be necessary to get a bunch of big name supporters to simultaneously endorse it and even convert some big name celebs in a surprise event. Can't be a ""minor"" party like the old Libertarians, this has to be a threat as a major one on it's inception. Imagine if Trump made this statement while also extending an apologetic olive branch to PaleoConservatism while also expressing his disdain for neocons, RINOs, cuckservatives, and ""crypto-Democrats"" (as I like to say). Imagine. Got the idea from Bill Whittle's (superold) ""Piranha Party"" Afterburner. Meritocrat Piranhas? In this new 3 party America the new Republicans in the """"center"""" would be able to say the this society is a Constitutional Representative *Republic* and their party simply reflects this reality. So then the Democrats and Meritocrats to either side must say that their intent to do is is to modify the society with more Democracy and Meritocracy to the left/right respectively. The objective evil and inferior of the Democratic part would be made know through simple observation. See the reason the Libertarian PARTY was a bad idea is because it presents an unclear picture and avenue of attack for the left. An ""Authoritarian Party"" will never be made and for the same reason the Libertarian never should have. Even though Libertarianism is king.",,Anonymous,Piranha Party.jpg,U7IXcteo5IgjgMBx4LVZnA==,US,,1498315667 131181604,131188475,2017-06-24 14:50:28,">>131188220 I could get down with that, only problem is getting enough people down with it to abandon their parties, and then do campaign battle with Dems and Republicucks. I figured it be better to massively infiltrate another party, perhaps Libertarian or Republicucks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498315828 131181604,131188480,2017-06-24 14:50:30,">>131187337 1) never because a democratic government has never raised road tax to astronomical levels for this exact reason 2) how did you come to the idea that monopolies cannot exist without state intervention? i still havent had an explanation to how this system could possibly benefit anyone except the people who own the roads (a very small amount of people with the financial leverage to actually buy them) >>131187377 You've argued them many times before, i have no doubt. But you've never actually won one of those arguments, have you? Why do you cling onto these wacky and unworkable delusions? >ill make an unrealistic scenario to counter it well you really turned that one on it's head because thats usually what the ancaps who think this kind of shit do. ""we dont need roads where we're going. We'll have JETPACKS"" or ""Dude we will have like 10 roads next to eachother"" both of those sound rather unrealistic to me. so thats why i am still asking what is the solution to the monopoly problem? >>131187457 no because academics use sentence structures way too complex for me to interpret in text form because i am a bad reader. if they were spoken to me i can easily cope. i am articulate by mouth but i have never been a good reader so i wont bother as it will literally take me days, and im not even exaggerating",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498315830 131181604,131189580,2017-06-24 15:02:11,Bump,,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,US,,1498316531 131181604,131189905,2017-06-24 15:05:35,"Korwin Mikke is the most based libertarian politician ever. He is even going to attend Hoppe's conference this year.",,Anonymous,korwin.jpg,utl4HnWs7Uf1V9Jv55BTTw==,,,1498316735 131181604,131191301,2017-06-24 15:19:58,">>131188220 I think it would be easier, although no great feat., to invade the Republican Party and drag it towards Libertarian principles. It has the infrastructure already in place and Libertarians have already made in roads there. If I could wave a magic wand I would get a principled Libertarian running against every Repub in Congress and Senate next time they come up for re-election.Ron Paul proved that liberty is a popular message, but we do not have the comprehensive push in that direction to drag the Neo-Cons off their chairs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498317598 131181604,131191355,2017-06-24 15:20:31,">>131191301 >no small feat sorry",,Anonymous,,,,,1498317631 131181604,131191370,2017-06-24 15:20:40,">>131189905 is this the member of eu parliament people always meme about",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498317640 131181604,131191658,2017-06-24 15:23:34,">>131191370 Yes. He's a hoppean libertarian it seems.",,Anonymous,comment_3vK2SG8Eeoc3sUJqTboDZBtlqSY8lnVZ.jpg,Fb9PaMgLPL90MR+H2T7P0A==,,,1498317814 131181604,131192670,2017-06-24 15:33:49,">>131191658 Please explain how a completely unregulated system of hardcore capitalism isn't existentially incompatible with a society wide NAP. Wouldn't everyone alive chronically violate the NAP? Not trolling, just legitimately don't see how this would work, so serious answers please.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498318429 131181604,131192738,2017-06-24 15:34:29,">>131191658 I'd voluntarily associate with her on the left, iykwim",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498318469 131181604,131192849,2017-06-24 15:35:46,">>131192670 >>131191658 No idea why the fuck I replied to you, consider it a thread wide question.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498318546 131181604,131193130,2017-06-24 15:38:36,">>131192670 >Wouldn't everyone alive chronically violate the NAP? How come? We would have private protection. The majority of protection we have today is already private.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498318716 131181604,131194008,2017-06-24 15:48:38,">>131192670 How so? A lot of the same services are still in place, just provided by the market - no governmental monopoly on stuff like judicial violence.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498319318 131181604,131194503,2017-06-24 15:54:06,">>131188480 >1) never because a democratic government has never raised road tax to astronomical levels for this exact reason So people wouldn't be able to boycott corporations in a similar manner? They could stop using that road and find alternative routes like they could democratically ""kick out a government"", if the government would ever allow such a thing to happen >2) how did you come to the idea that monopolies cannot exist without state intervention? i still havent had an explanation to how this system could possibly benefit anyone except the people who own the roads (a very small amount of people with the financial leverage to actually buy them) Read this https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly",,Anonymous,,,,,1498319646 131181604,131196109,2017-06-24 16:11:28,how based is ron paul?,,Anonymous,1495919669040.jpg,0hfe03MnBZYyxw0d4JVjDg==,GB,,1498320688 131181604,131196169,2017-06-24 16:12:10,bumping,,Anonymous,yeet.png,yZBA4KKovlqwtSVPt1BhLg==,SK,,1498320730 131181604,131196190,2017-06-24 16:12:25,">>131196109 extremely based.",,Anonymous,enhanced-buzz-29173-1318023524-5.jpg,2oNycueprcQv3YaUFBmo2g==,,,1498320745 131181604,131196779,2017-06-24 16:18:59,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498321139 131181604,131196994,2017-06-24 16:21:15,,,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,,,1498321275 131181604,131197321,2017-06-24 16:24:36,">>131196994 My favorite.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498321476 131181604,131197578,2017-06-24 16:27:40,">>131181604 What even is libertarian left? How can you have mass social programs without government force? Aren't those called charities?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498321660 131181604,131197808,2017-06-24 16:29:49,">>131197578 commies and left libertarians see property rights as only existing because the state protects them, So obviously to be an anarchist you must have a massive central resource redistribution network to take from people and give the resources to the people who need them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498321789 131181604,131197873,2017-06-24 16:30:42,">>131184921 Rights are a spook",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1498321842 131181604,131198075,2017-06-24 16:32:53,">>131197873 nah nigga rights come from god or nature if you're a spookfag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498321973 131181604,131198347,2017-06-24 16:35:58,">>131197578 It's more of the 'fuck the bourgie' type of leftism than the 'welfare state' kind",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498322158 131181604,131198468,2017-06-24 16:37:08,so can we have some libertarian memes,,Anonymous,1494319990032.png,Pf1BbhBkujFFxRuqC0CxiA==,,,1498322228 131181604,131198588,2017-06-24 16:38:18,>>131198468,,Anonymous,taxation is theft.png,AaeL/xEqnNkE62wnvTh2zA==,GB,,1498322298 131181604,131198638,2017-06-24 16:38:52,,,Anonymous,snek.jpg,WeiEDcQayx0q3aRb3nKD+g==,,,1498322332 131181604,131198644,2017-06-24 16:38:56,>>131198468,,Anonymous,1486986898572.jpg,+a5bgTX1QX7YiaShinxAGw==,,,1498322336 131181604,131198713,2017-06-24 16:39:41,,,Anonymous,bpuw8sxhjr4y.png,0R57Vo/V/fFC0waf5BMPDQ==,,,1498322381 131181604,131198861,2017-06-24 16:41:10,,,Anonymous,1478192781591.jpg,dxnHqwkAO4QcslT7G6/Wcw==,,,1498322470 131181604,131198945,2017-06-24 16:42:04,,,Anonymous,Untitled-1.png,5veZO4dkaYvo1XZb31sSsQ==,,,1498322524 131181604,131199187,2017-06-24 16:44:40,">>131189580 >>131198638 Pinochet was a statist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498322680 131181604,131199253,2017-06-24 16:45:19,>>131199187,,Anonymous,1494319726144.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,,,1498322719 131181604,131199588,2017-06-24 16:48:36,">>131199187 Statism and other involuntary positions are justifiable in defence of your life, liberty and property >my captcha",,Anonymous,file.png,DzvR2AcgmuuW0ept+w08xQ==,GB,,1498322916 131181604,131199706,2017-06-24 16:49:51,>>131199187,,Anonymous,9vBxLrDjIs95dVZWij8c9hSNNPhpgvxj_SqQOxGaV8A.jpg,G33yeVE2/V7fVXI/LWRDNg==,,,1498322991 131181604,131199723,2017-06-24 16:50:05,MI GENERAL AUGUSTO PINOCHET,,Anonymous,Pinochet.png,pD2Hcn5SEvy6OJ2j1UkeIA==,,,1498323005 131181604,131199820,2017-06-24 16:51:11,,,Anonymous,1495130137582.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,,,1498323071 131181604,131199937,2017-06-24 16:52:24,">>131199820 post the original non shit version",,Anonymous,file.png,kZno3Z+Urbz3ZCVPRb0BaQ==,GB,,1498323144 131181604,131200093,2017-06-24 16:54:32,>>131199937,,Anonymous,hippity_hoppity_cant_afford_property_16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,US,,1498323272 131181604,131200150,2017-06-24 16:55:01,"if you are done with watching your freedoms be stolen, go to RIGHT WING UNITED discord >>>> gg /q7vVFwD",,Anonymous,1497729272706.jpg,EeIInJ1+cX1AYBznQIQgTA==,US,,1498323301 131181604,131200465,2017-06-24 16:58:40,camon guys i need to make the normies laugh before they get interested in this shit,,Anonymous,1470398254778.jpg,zJiKerk85p1+02EKMov2iQ==,,,1498323520 131181604,131200537,2017-06-24 16:59:27,">>131200465 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZbrG0tWXWs",,Anonymous,1488752319484.jpg,CqIC18Eh7/OI6pdEeY2W5Q==,,,1498323567 131181604,131200934,2017-06-24 17:03:27,">>131182161 Check out Trutherbot red and Trutherbot blue. Pretty redpilled famalam.",,Anonymous,IMG_1182.jpg,avlesRI/VrM3B3IiwhQWsg==,US,,1498323807 131181604,131200956,2017-06-24 17:03:40,,,Anonymous,19366366_241430413013491_5474478553050382058_n.jpg,z5QIQJwdLABPQ/5YCJG0nA==,,,1498323820 131181604,131201051,2017-06-24 17:04:40,,,Anonymous,1495584340120.jpg,wx/RpFd6szojjrZtbqa7CQ==,,,1498323880 131181604,131201104,2017-06-24 17:05:08,,,Anonymous,snek (16).png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,,,1498323908 131181604,131201216,2017-06-24 17:06:22,,,Anonymous,341bRLiZXGzp3HfpZTXB8yBtAjd-HvfTOuONYTQKn48.jpg,8t6dnew/c3nLxoz6fOFMoQ==,,,1498323982 131181604,131201559,2017-06-24 17:09:37,https://youtu.be/OKIAjDxZNpI,,Anonymous,AntiCom4.jpg,v0xlgfMp9PLl6tuZffNy+w==,US,,1498324177 131181604,131202212,2017-06-24 17:16:36,">>131201559 cool man, nice flag bearer too.",,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,,,1498324596 131181604,131203434,2017-06-24 17:28:51,">>131181604 Hey lads, hop in the Anticom Discord. It's quite comfy. purD2xX",,Anonymous,Anticom_Propaganda_-_Take_a_Ride.png,eOYF4v4cU3PcWWua3uicYw==,,,1498325331 131181604,131203584,2017-06-24 17:30:23,">>131181604 Are left libertarians welcome ITT?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498325423 131181604,131203656,2017-06-24 17:31:08,,,Anonymous,eJwFwdERwiAMANBdGIBISAjtNhwgrdcKB_HLc3ff-5rPvMxuDtWxdoByrtxnsUv7TK3a1nu7ahrnsrnfkFRTPu761gUoUSj6TTbi4CJ5BI8u8gMZJQRPgkJQZnqqYyfMRGRfo5nfH_WmI8A.jpg,yj0OUEdBFNCvczwwj2nU7g==,,,1498325468 131181604,131203697,2017-06-24 17:31:30,,,Anonymous,eJwFwdERgyAMANBdGIAgsZi4DYcU7anhSNqfXnfve1_3Hqdb3W7WdQXYDi0yNq8mI7fqm0g7a-6H-iIXZLNc9qvephCXxPjghTAxTWHGCBimNEdmIgwxRKIAd_3k8ZTRqvlXb-73B5nzJHg.jpg,/JNZvGjoibCOyCv/ix+a2A==,,,1498325490 131181604,131203722,2017-06-24 17:31:41,,,Anonymous,eJwNwtsNwyAMAMBdGABTTHlkGwqURCIYgaN8VN29Pd1HXLOJTezMY20A-ViJZpaLacZaZCWqrcRxLJnohMgc036Wzgu0swGfwXm0wT-UQQ2o0DoTPDqljf03kCbd-X31_IqtydGr-P4A5SslRQ.png,EZM18U8IlCiSk0D7dAm1eg==,,,1498325501 131181604,131203820,2017-06-24 17:32:33,">>131203584 No.",,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,LatNQtsX/0qiXcA64qB87w==,GB,,1498325553 131181604,131203839,2017-06-24 17:32:45,">>131203584 No.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498325565 131181604,131203847,2017-06-24 17:32:50,">>131181604 what is the difference between rand's egoism and stirner's egoism why is rand's one cool and stirner's one gay",,Anonymous,,,,,1498325570 131181604,131203851,2017-06-24 17:32:55,">>131203584 gtfo",,Anonymous,fdgdf.jpg,Awf4zGRveM6c4an6q3wunA==,,,1498325575 131181604,131204411,2017-06-24 17:38:43,">>131203847 rand has this idea that helping others and shit is often in ones own self interest. But i don't know, we only have a few rand people",,Anonymous,,,,,1498325923 131181604,131204550,2017-06-24 17:40:06,">>131198075 This, natural rights are the real redpill",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498326006 131181604,131204640,2017-06-24 17:40:52,">>131203584 >/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL No",,Anonymous,,,,,1498326052 131181604,131204930,2017-06-24 17:43:46,">>131203584 GTFO",,Anonymous,IMG_1135.gif,1ehEbUhcp0XttEKIOUk8WQ==,US,,1498326226 131181604,131205550,2017-06-24 17:49:33,">>131200537 kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498326573 131181604,131207193,2017-06-24 18:05:09,,,Anonymous,1498071159275.png,hkilyxdDI6suWDimCn7vZg==,,,1498327509 131181604,131207418,2017-06-24 18:07:07,"I'm downloading these books in ebook and audiobook form. I'm gonna upload them as a torrent. you shitlords interested?",,Anonymous,ancap_reading_list_2.jpg,268Ez1fa7r2nZ27vb+Ytmw==,GB,,1498327627 131181604,131207519,2017-06-24 18:08:08,">>131207418 yes are you in the discord? can you post it there?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498327688 131181604,131207614,2017-06-24 18:08:53,">>131207519 its still a work in progress. I'll make sure you guys know about it when its done",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498327733 131181604,131208044,2017-06-24 18:13:02,">>131207614 Thanks fampailamgliatelo.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1498327982 131181604,131208431,2017-06-24 18:16:33,">>131181604 Just in case you violated the NAP",,Anonymous,1487300161696.png,9KZV9jz6/LS8qpsxvEjUBg==,,,1498328193 131181604,131209530,2017-06-24 18:27:01,">>131186678 ""Tolerate the intolerant"" is basically a fallacy because it leads always to removal of the tolerant in the end. The thing is libertanians should be the one removing as it leads to greawter freedom :)",,Anonymous,,,,,1498328821 131181604,131210178,2017-06-24 18:33:28,">>131209530 >Tolerance To tolerate is to force yourself to bear passivity for something that is against your nature. Otherwise, you wouldn't need to ""tolerate"" it. Tolerance violates the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1498329208 131353675,131353675,2017-06-26 00:03:08,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Jeff Deist, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1496446969810.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,,,1498435388 131353675,131353702,2017-06-26 00:03:31,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,1497406574825.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,,,1498435411 131353675,131353743,2017-06-26 00:03:57,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,1497414715378.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,,,1498435437 131353675,131353769,2017-06-26 00:04:20,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,1497414831918.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,,,1498435460 131353675,131353799,2017-06-26 00:04:49,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,bad.jpg,Eubn1dUh4+bSAH5RK+Q6ZA==,,,1498435489 131353675,131353892,2017-06-26 00:05:49,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,1497414554151.jpg,+zuP9RnnsFEJ/+4cuIbBuA==,,,1498435549 131353675,131353928,2017-06-26 00:06:18,">>131353675 Right-libertarian reporting in. How are you OP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498435578 131353675,131354010,2017-06-26 00:07:11,">>131353928 Good, and yourself?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498435631 131353675,131354330,2017-06-26 00:11:07,">>131354010 Good, thanks. I was reflecting on how most MSM journalists are defective as human beings, while John Stossel actually lets the interviewee speak, asks pointed questions without making it personal or confrontational, and tries to give supporting evidence for whatever the interviewee says. I wish I saw that kind of integrity with any of the libshit journalists in the MSM, I think this is why they're losing a lot of respect.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498435867 131353675,131354488,2017-06-26 00:13:16,">>131353675 How can you actively work towards making this a reality? I haven't read any of the books you listed but I soon will so I'm unsure if my question has already been answered. The entire ideology is really interesting to me, just recently got introduced to it by stumbling upon some Milton Friedman videos. I feel like the government, especially where I am is too powerful to make this possible so would I just end up reading all of this, taking in all this information and then not be able to properly assert it into life? How do you get around that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498435996 131353675,131354592,2017-06-26 00:14:38,">>131354330 I don't watch Stossel to be honest, but I agree with that other part. I really should check him out though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498436078 131353675,131354679,2017-06-26 00:15:54,">>131354488 It's very unlikely to change things through the current system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p7F8EhY91g",,Anonymous,,,,,1498436154 131353675,131354754,2017-06-26 00:16:42,what if i support isreal because i for one welcome our new jew overlords,,Anonymous,,,,,1498436202 131353675,131354837,2017-06-26 00:17:38,">>131354679 but yeah that video should shed provide some insight. Anyway I actually have to go to work, I just wanted to get the ball rolling so I'd have something to read when I get back.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498436258 131353675,131355238,2017-06-26 00:21:48,">>131354679 Thanks for the video.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498436508 131353675,131355247,2017-06-26 00:21:54,">>131354754 Israel is a rather socialist country that had total rent control in the 1970s anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498436514 131353675,131355826,2017-06-26 00:29:10,">>131355247 its just that i really prefer jews to sandniggers :/",,Anonymous,,,,,1498436950 131353675,131356225,2017-06-26 00:34:09,">>131355826 Same here but just as a lesser of the two evils. Just remember that Israel is a country only for Jews, you hear politicians say ""we're all Israelis today"" but they would never give us goyim citizenship there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498437249 131353675,131358036,2017-06-26 00:57:28,AnCaps FTW!!!,,Anonymous,,,,,1498438648 131353675,131358203,2017-06-26 01:00:04,">>131353675 keep up the good fight lads",,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1498438804 131672689,131672689,2017-06-28 15:54:28,"""The state is the ultimate nigger because it puts a gun to everyone's head and acts like it dindu nuffin"" - Murray Rothbard This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. This includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and right-wing reactionary-ism against the left (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, most of them have already been answered many times, so it is recommended you get to grip with the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to argue with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: discord gg jCVRCR3 INTRODUCTION/REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >(Further Reading - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg for a reference) THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,GB,,1498665268 131672689,131672797,2017-06-28 15:55:31,First for guns fuck yeah,,Anonymous,reviewdah.jpg,sT1bvb8OrHgUPNfMpw/QJw==,GR,,1498665331 131672689,131672977,2017-06-28 15:57:10,">>131672689 I dream of a society free of the asphalt Jew.",,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,I71Eo6gzq0qKx5jIHVr5gQ==,US,,1498665430 131672689,131673109,2017-06-28 15:58:16,"Grow up, manchild.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498665496 131672689,131673289,2017-06-28 16:00:08,">>131673109 Yeah guys, grow up and larp like it's 1942 with us grown ass adults.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498665608 131672689,131673417,2017-06-28 16:01:24,so who is the judge again in this society? if i kill someone and there is no clear evidence?,,Anonymous,,,,,1498665684 131672689,131673530,2017-06-28 16:02:27,"It's exactly the same in every other civil society, no evidenced, no crime.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498665747 131672689,131673625,2017-06-28 16:03:30,">>131673417 Now what if I kill someone in you preferred society and there's zero evidence? Are you gonna come after me on a hunch?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498665810 131672689,131673920,2017-06-28 16:06:22,">>131673625 im not saying there is zero evidence(in this case you get away with it) im saying in many cases the investigation is not 100% clear and the judge decides if the perpetrator (or not) is punished",,Anonymous,,,,,1498665982 131672689,131674133,2017-06-28 16:08:26,"ANCAP TRAP HAREMS WHEN?!?! >can't kill this without a contract",,Anonymous,7731994984_0f1a90cb92_b.jpg,F8tdpy8EsoxW7WgaFd5Qfg==,,,1498666106 131672689,131674255,2017-06-28 16:09:34,">>131673920 So there is evidence of a murder, but nothing tied to the suspect? Then there's no evidence. Is that a answer your question? Maybe give an exact hypothetical if not.",,Anonymous,IMG_0702.png,0FdWLWHDvNy3xtKVjNTtHQ==,US,,1498666174 131672689,131674329,2017-06-28 16:10:21,">>131674133 Fuck off faggot, we don't want your kind in this covenant you Brazilian/Canadian trap loving libertien.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498666221 131672689,131674400,2017-06-28 16:11:00,">>131673417 Your victims next of kin or a DRO (Dispute Resolution Organization) of his choosing would present the case in a private court. If you went to the court to defend yourself, you would be punished if you were found guilty. If you stayed home, you would be tried in absentia. You would probably be literally dragged to court so you could defeat the case built against you in your absence. Whether you succeeded or not, you would carry the costs of this shortened re-trial. At least, that's how I would organize it. I think this idea is straightforward enough that it would become pretty common, though. Alternatively, the court might just deliver the full punishment whether you defended yourself or not. If that sounds like shit to you, then it probably does to everyone else. Who wants a trigger-happy court like that?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498666260 131672689,131674480,2017-06-28 16:11:48,">>131672689 No ""Ethics of Liberty"", or ""For a New Liberty""? I'm appalled!",,Anonymous,,,,,1498666308 131672689,131674529,2017-06-28 16:12:16,">>131672689 >promoting usury and the Shylock view of money",,Anonymous,8a4.jpg,cpzjl/kVP11MFLHZr2BOwQ==,,,1498666336 131672689,131674892,2017-06-28 16:15:41,">>131673920 >>131674400 i just say that there will be a necessity of judges in grudges between people i mean for example what if someone tries to mug me i shoot him and a third person only sees me shooting him would they be inclined to shoot me in this kind of society?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498666541 131672689,131674912,2017-06-28 16:15:53,">>131674529 >Loosely quoting Marx Your trash, and probably fake news as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498666553 131672689,131674975,2017-06-28 16:16:37,">>131674329 > does causing butthurt on a /pol/ thread constitute breach of NAP? > y somos travestis, marica",,Anonymous,DCXSlYNXgAESv5B.jpg,0hVKxHe4jR7QeKl1pwIsfQ==,,,1498666597 131672689,131675212,2017-06-28 16:18:46,">>131674892 Hoppe spoke against vigilantism because it would incur more costs for insurers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498666726 131672689,131675241,2017-06-28 16:19:00,">>131674975 It does on /lrg/ intellectual property. I saw your post where you swore to spam /lrg/ until we had a discussion about trannies. It's not gonna happen faggot. Get lost.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498666740 131672689,131675581,2017-06-28 16:22:15,">>131675241 That was more of a call to the world than a declaration of a flame war. A perfectly viable institution is being neglected in an otherwise hypothetical discussion, and we must not waver in reaping the potential benefits of anarcho-capitalism. I see every post as being its own property; the Internet is a commonwealth, after all. >prove the intellectual aggression",,Anonymous,Mexican2.jpg,nV0VxfuownUkMRkAJZenLw==,,,1498666935 131672689,131675742,2017-06-28 16:23:50,">>131675581 Fuck off, I don't have to debate scum so below myself such as you. Go away, stop posting your filth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498667030 131672689,131675787,2017-06-28 16:24:15,">>131674133 What part of no faggotry do you not understand, degenerate scum?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498667055 131672689,131675962,2017-06-28 16:26:02,">>131675742 >>131675787 >McBombshell incoming",,Anonymous,507235-3.jpg,jj7RsUEZNVD1JsI8AroJEA==,,,1498667162 131672689,131676068,2017-06-28 16:27:03,">>131675962 How many out of 10 girls in Brasil have a dick?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498667223 131672689,131676115,2017-06-28 16:27:37,">>131674133 >>131675962 >>131674975 >>131675962 get out, so to speak",,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,LatNQtsX/0qiXcA64qB87w==,GB,,1498667257 131672689,131676391,2017-06-28 16:30:18,">>131676068 That's a good question... most likely a higher ratio than horsefuckers there. That's something I wouldn't even entertain in my stables, I can't see how any woman could consent to a contract to do that business. As for me, I'm a landlord of simple and lacy tastes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498667418 131672689,131676630,2017-06-28 16:32:53,">>131676391 So hypothetically, If I would visit brasil and get drunk as fuck how high is the chance that I end up with a trap, later that night?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498667573 131672689,131676653,2017-06-28 16:33:05,">>131676115 Duly noted, my polite friend. What institutions would you found on your land? Stores? Repair shops?",,Anonymous,1497700940291.jpg,UhuShD+g2wVq8hGKWo+lrw==,,,1498667585 131672689,131676692,2017-06-28 16:33:30,"What should the age of consent be, if it exists, of course. And what if someone buys all the territory and roads around my house and bans me from any travelling at all.",,Swissbro,,,CH,,1498667610 131672689,131676993,2017-06-28 16:36:40,">>131676692 Lol, my bro plays total war games and did just that. He made them a trade ally. So I guess just be useful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498667800 131672689,131677068,2017-06-28 16:37:23,">>131675787 No public faggotry. If he keeps them in a dungeon, but in public only appears with his loyal wife, and never discusses it, there's no issue.",,Anonymous,Czech Girls.jpg,BM7/Qawn7o24P6a7sjKsIw==,,,1498667843 131672689,131677100,2017-06-28 16:37:39,">>131676692 Age of consent will be by culture, like it is now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498667859 131672689,131677129,2017-06-28 16:37:54,">>131676692 >What should the age of consent be The age when a person can make decisions on their own, here you count as an adult with 18, still girls can't decide for their own way past their 40s, while some depend their whole life on the state to make decisions for them. Then, you will have to make an agreemant, or your security providers will negotiate if there is no result, it could end in a violent conflict, but at least it won'T end in a war like between states and is restricted locally.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498667874 131672689,131677306,2017-06-28 16:39:44,"Is libertarianism capable of doing what needs to be done in order to fix the West? It seems like you'd need fascism for some time before hand, especially considering how cucked libertarianism is when it comes to national borders.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498667984 131672689,131677413,2017-06-28 16:40:47,">>131676630 If you wandered into certain parts of cities, fairly god chance. Just bring rubbers and a facemask to protect against devil's breath. >>131676692 >just navigate THEM PEAKS swissbro :D homestead like a mofo into undeveloped parts of his territory abutting yours, build an airport, use your resources to rent property outside the surrounders' property. >>131677068 We're talking about harems friend, not extraterritorial visits. Of course the owner would put on a straight appearance as a dignitary in your place; the seraglios would only be for entertainment and inspiration inside the owners' borders. Advertisement (like I do), is accepted as capitalism, on the other hand.",,Anonymous,342717-1.jpg,hw4zOcSROBmgwWbfBITkjg==,,,1498668047 131672689,131677647,2017-06-28 16:43:02,">>131677306 Relying on politicians to fix things is what got us in this mess in the first place. Fascism is just wishful thinking that there's an easy way out. There isn't. If something's worth doing, it's worth doing right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498668182 131672689,131677652,2017-06-28 16:43:04,">>131677306 Fascism is a natural reaction, just push a libertarian to the point when he starts fighting back, and the commies will hang. But that is just a theory I am not a libertarian, but they are the only ones on the right I like.",,Anonymous,snake-menefrego.jpg,2S90fYmJ+5xd4w+1umxaIw==,,,1498668184 131672689,131677731,2017-06-28 16:43:55,">>131677413 >We're talking about harems friend, not extraterritorial visits. Of course the owner would put on a straight appearance as a dignitary in your place; the seraglios would only be for entertainment and inspiration inside the owners' borders. Advertisement (like I do), is accepted as capitalism, on the other hand. You would not be welcome in a Hoppean society, unless you could find a way to be unrealistically subtle with your advertisements.",,Anonymous,1498341448889.jpg,/vfMQxwgqgK1Dj4FmnlZmg==,,,1498668235 131672689,131677814,2017-06-28 16:44:33,">>131677306 No, there is no need for ""pro West"" laws other than undoing the damage of leftism. Deport the terrorists and big government voting Mexicans, at that point ending the welfare state is the most pro white, pro family policy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498668273 131672689,131677875,2017-06-28 16:45:03,"It's the truth that Laws do not dictate morals, the statement of laws do not stop immoral people from acting immorally and Laws are not meant to protect people or enforce morality, they are meant to control people and protect property Issues of morality should never be a matter of discussion for the state, as it is a matter of the individual to act morally. If people do not act morally, they should be removed as a moral action (this is the essence of the NAP). The burden of doing so is on all moral individuals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498668303 131672689,131678126,2017-06-28 16:47:31,">>131677652 I get your meaning, but fascism is government promotion of cultural unity. In times of crisis, libertarian society would form groups that would probably have fascist like elements to them, but they'll not be funded by taxation. This may seem like pedantry, but it is an important distinction.",,Anonymous,Hoppe.jpg,wOp3Xt5hx9v967OlW6Lb1w==,,,1498668451 131672689,131678162,2017-06-28 16:47:47,">>131677875 >Laws do not dictate morals Sad thing is, people in Europe actually believe this. They justify even the most unmoral law with it is a law and therefor rightful.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498668467 131672689,131678217,2017-06-28 16:48:16,">>131677731 Is the limit for advertising offending the feelings of those seeing the ads? (If so, I don't see the difference in that and leftist tactics, unless you can discern) What type of subtlety are you talking about? Neither are rhetorical questions by the way, this is a serious plan of mine.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498668496 131672689,131678608,2017-06-28 16:51:52,">>131678217 I don't believe you have a serious conviction in you. Show me your geographic flag libertine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498668712 131672689,131678739,2017-06-28 16:52:58,">>131678126 >I get your meaning, but fascism is government promotion of cultural unity. It is not, only mussolini made an political arm as he formed the party, early fascism was more a spiritual idealistic thing, while the first squadristi and other bonds were formed on the countryside to protect family and property from looting communists. I am coming from the non political side that's why I don't need a state in fact the state forces degeneration. I also struggled many years alone thinking of an economic system that is just human interaction, until I found out it already exists as capitalism, but I believed the socialist lies from other right wingers I knew at that time, that's why I said Libertarians are the ones I like the most on the right.",,Anonymous,step on.jpg,gbpBvz0hq8g9vAJIR/Es2g==,,,1498668778 131672689,131679145,2017-06-28 16:56:26,">>131678608 Tell you what, if you (and you alone) guess my flag correctly, I'll stop posting traps today. Don't worry, I abide by my promises. I do have a serious conviction in being a patron to transexuals; this is due to real life experience with that side of things.",,Anonymous,398997-2.jpg,U8jm07qahWexKQNCxmo8eg==,,,1498668986 131672689,131679661,2017-06-28 17:01:31,"Aynone can tell me why those ancap/libertarian fagbook pages are so open border, that they even bash Eric July who really dindu nuffin?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498669291 131672689,131680524,2017-06-28 17:09:46,">>131679145 I should know better than to play your games. But I have to assume you're the Brazilian who made older ancap trap memes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498669786 131672689,131680653,2017-06-28 17:11:12,">>131679661 Any libertarian/ancap web community other than /lrg/ is cucked by reason magazine and other globalist propaganda.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498669872 131672689,131680969,2017-06-28 17:14:10,">>131680653 Funny thing is I first met you guys on radical agenda and assumed you all were like this, was pretty shocked when I found out about german libertarians, cucked to the bone muh weed muh gays etc etc. But you guys on /pol/ are pretty nice too, I come sometimes to your threads.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498670050 131672689,131681078,2017-06-28 17:15:11,">>131680524 Unfortunately you're wrong, but since you are right that I'm not 100% white, I'll stop posting them anyway for today (can't exhaust all the good ones). Traps are more than a meme, they can be mysteries (at least the chill ones that aren't ready to shave their bones, natural/pretty CD are better). Many customers would go for it, I'm telling you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498670111 131672689,131681325,2017-06-28 17:17:30,">>131681078 Hoppean Libertarianism is best Small state structured societies based on deep central values or race would be the best Pure white, Weed smoker, Gay society, etc, but if someone enters the community that is not allowed, ADIOS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498670250 131672689,131681424,2017-06-28 17:18:26,>>131672689,,Anonymous,1497790694188.png,q5/Sp+uHz2bgKMF6Fp+/zg==,,,1498670306 131672689,131681472,2017-06-28 17:18:52,">>131680969 Make no mistake, the message we spread here is the real Libertarian message. Mises foundation is only slightly pc but still very honest, the rest are crypto leftists that must be destroyed. You can get a better understanding watching ""Reich wing watch"" Noam Chomsky videos of what Libertarians are before the garbage spewed in mainstream Libertarian communities.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1498670332 131672689,131681574,2017-06-28 17:19:48,sup fags,,^~,korwin.jpg,utl4HnWs7Uf1V9Jv55BTTw==,,,1498670388 131672689,131681592,2017-06-28 17:19:58,,,Anonymous,r.jpg,sGcS+yAufYn8UJSoLVkIxQ==,AR,,1498670398 131672689,131681637,2017-06-28 17:20:29,">>131681592 >black and yellow McRoad?",,^~,,,,,1498670429 131672689,131681649,2017-06-28 17:20:38,,,Anonymous,2419537b.jpg,S1qs0k6WziTAO9U5j57mlQ==,AR,,1498670438 131672689,131681694,2017-06-28 17:21:03,,,Anonymous,winding.jpg,oRWK4wG1b4JjpbgtJBhKVQ==,AR,,1498670463 131672689,131681698,2017-06-28 17:21:06,">>131681325 >Gay society Good luck with your society that can't reproduce.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498670466 131672689,131681726,2017-06-28 17:21:19,">>131681472 Criiinge",,Anonymous,,,,,1498670479 131672689,131681737,2017-06-28 17:21:26,,,Anonymous,tur1000x667.jpg,1K4lxvyepHKFpBBfvqKjRw==,AR,,1498670486 131672689,131681740,2017-06-28 17:21:28,">>131672689 gay",,Anonymous,,,,,1498670488 131672689,131681758,2017-06-28 17:21:37,">>131674529 begone",,Anonymous,file.png,wGhgT8wU+JNCAcgMyBKFFA==,GB,,1498670497 131672689,131681769,2017-06-28 17:21:42,">>131681325 Hoppe is one of the most important authors to unite the right, pretty much agree with him on every point if I wouldn't have known before I had thought he was also a fascist and the best thing is since I read into him I can't stand any one of the right in my country anymore, because they are all socialists.",,Anonymous,reichsf.jpg,dkQRn0qTVl3+Oqhb0GUc5Q==,,,1498670502 131672689,131681787,2017-06-28 17:21:53,">>131681325 What about a artistically inclined, commercially libertine society? Neighbors that dislike its policies would only need to boycott such a society, and those that use its services can do so, facing censure of course.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498670513 131672689,131681819,2017-06-28 17:22:08,">>131672689 Apologies, but TEST",,Anonymous,,,,,1498670528 131672689,131681832,2017-06-28 17:22:17,">>131681698 I would not advocate it, and evidently it would last but if we trick all them to escape the evil hetero, white world, everyone else would crumble",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498670537 131672689,131681858,2017-06-28 17:22:35,,,Anonymous,dubairoadson1may2007scaled.jpg,PWi8OtjyL0ehLuwaHvVaSg==,AR,,1498670555 131672689,131681913,2017-06-28 17:23:18,,,Anonymous,theroadneverends.jpg,QSC/DHFHuzmaxEzfNp8Yqw==,AR,,1498670598 131672689,131681983,2017-06-28 17:23:52,,,Anonymous,ancienttriggers.jpg,dl/RdFFKW61Jj22oZKjwKg==,AR,,1498670632 131672689,131682070,2017-06-28 17:24:36,">>131681769 Where are you from?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498670676 131672689,131682173,2017-06-28 17:25:41,>>131682070,,Anonymous,,,AT,,1498670741 131672689,131682301,2017-06-28 17:27:00,">>131681913 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,,,1498670820 131672689,131682308,2017-06-28 17:27:03,">>131682173 Anschluss gang Within Hoppean thought, there could be fascist states, they would run into trouble if they wanted to conquer other states.. because of the NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498670823 131672689,131682357,2017-06-28 17:27:35,"Stop spamming Pablo, the Roads Trigger le ANCAPS XD meme is dead since last year >>131681769 We need the equivalent of the Bolsheviks -> Marx but for Hoppe",,^~,kor4.jpg,r0nWu4lYAPvrtxmt+8WB9Q==,,,1498670855 131672689,131682532,2017-06-28 17:29:21,curse you libertarians i'm going to convert you all into lollis to serve me in my army to convert more people into lolis exponentially just you wait. I'm also going to tax you.,,Anonymous,1496096612236.png,m+fmxisUz/p0yQjoL1R5fA==,US,,1498670961 131672689,131682626,2017-06-28 17:30:22,">>131681325 >>131681787 Besides, such a variety of Hoppean states based on racial identity or credal purity would most likely exile non-consenting homosexuals and transexuals from their ranks, creating a ""refugee crisis"" of sorts and a potential economic force. A state such as what I just proposed in >>131681787 would provide a humanitarian haven for them, an economic opportunity for them, and a chance to conduct viable commerce by selling the fruit of their patronage (sex, companionship, creative shit, etc). Besides, they would understand the existence of hostile societies due to the nature of consent in the overall contract system, and they would have no mandate to fundamentally change the society leftist-style as consenters to it by contract; therefore, they would cause no problem to the landlord, as they'd only need to leave if the contract is amended to say their kind is not welcome.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498671022 131672689,131682699,2017-06-28 17:30:58,">>131682532 fuck off anime fag, you'll do no such thing. plus im an adult already. get a job you hippie dipshit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498671058 131672689,131682734,2017-06-28 17:31:22,">>131682357 Come on taxcuck, you know you like my statist porn folder's contents I know you're getting a chubby",,Anonymous,5A0nBdt.jpg,IRE7CYIgPwBD/zdq1xEpAA==,AR,,1498671082 131672689,131682756,2017-06-28 17:31:35,">>131682308 That's what I always promoted before finding out about hoppe and know I am convinced that a free market and enforced property rights are the best way to bring europe back to it's former glory under the Kaiser. As I said I wasted many years, because I believed the lies of the so called ""right"" here that I was always against capitalism, while promoting what in fact capitalism is. Also the welfare state has to end as soon as possible, in austria the state even owns your organs if you don't request it and get an registration as non donor.",,Anonymous,no monopol pls.jpg,pnkOham1h9WbQKLB/gYTPA==,,,1498671095 131672689,131682820,2017-06-28 17:32:08,,,Anonymous,The-Atlantic-Ocean-Road7.jpg,npH+YNJt4xHnc68k2c30lQ==,AR,,1498671128 131672689,131682831,2017-06-28 17:32:14,>>131682734,,Anonymous,roadcuckpporn.png,FMDYd+igLazbXQA6GkNpSg==,,,1498671134 131672689,131682910,2017-06-28 17:33:02,">>131682699 don't care you're getting converted. I need somebody to build me roads i'm going to step on your sneks",,Anonymous,1493442553609.gif,ym9HJOxavfMjkso9akqAPA==,US,,1498671182 131672689,131683029,2017-06-28 17:34:03,">>131681737 >tfw private roads would make midnight touge racing legal but statecucks insist on being killjoys",,Anonymous,1466370194408.png,aRXuRYskaD3LZcU4Knb/mw==,,,1498671243 131672689,131683101,2017-06-28 17:34:49,">>131682357 >We need the equivalent of the Bolsheviks How about just rightful people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498671289 131672689,131683105,2017-06-28 17:34:49,,,Anonymous,actualmoorishroad.jpg,02Yx7B2IsMn/64ky0vPeLQ==,AR,,1498671289 131672689,131683205,2017-06-28 17:35:50,"If I'm a paleo-conservative like Pat Buchanan are you going to physically remove me (s2s)? If so, based on what policies?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498671350 131672689,131683209,2017-06-28 17:35:52,">>131682756 I think i remember you. anyway glad you embraced property rights. was it simply reading Hoppe that did it for you? how did you get to this point?",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(3).png,8NmmFqEDnFZ5ThLIrXXYUQ==,,,1498671352 131672689,131683348,2017-06-28 17:37:03,">>131683101 There's no way this is going to work without a fight. >>131683205 Tax is NAPViolation. Agreeto no tax and you're alright.",,^~,mqdefault.jpg,uV63Q6vzi2I+q5Hwlxrmzg==,,,1498671423 131672689,131683371,2017-06-28 17:37:12,">>131683205 you're probably culturally compatible with /lrg/ folks, long as you don't try and steal my shit we're good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498671432 131672689,131683394,2017-06-28 17:37:26,">>131683105 >full of potholes and sand Hope you got a good roll cage",,Anonymous,,,,,1498671446 131672689,131683534,2017-06-28 17:38:39,">>131683209 Evola inspired me the most, at that time I was around 18 braking up with the natsocs I knew because of his books. And now I am here 10 years later coming together with libertarians. >>131683348 sometimes you just have to fight the commie hordes if there is no other way.",,Anonymous,korwin2.jpg,aFpOsQGRZLGakxb9eOKluA==,,,1498671519 131672689,131683541,2017-06-28 17:38:41,">>131683394 Guess we'll need more taxes to fix them, spread your wallet little piggy",,Anonymous,traffic.jpg,Us3ELGfjknk2bfaJNz4p/g==,AR,,1498671521 131672689,131683766,2017-06-28 17:40:45,,,Anonymous,BBSfust.jpg,rV+WEjAaXYLfU+6WdpBqgA==,AR,,1498671645 131672689,131683811,2017-06-28 17:41:05,">>131683534 didn't Evola say all kinds of bad shit about capitalism? I haven't read any of him, I only think this because shills post Evola anti-capitalist quotes alot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498671665 131672689,131683992,2017-06-28 17:42:48,,,Anonymous,s.jpg,2byYSsvu9caB1d5bFSUYIA==,AR,,1498671768 131672689,131684040,2017-06-28 17:43:26,,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498671806 131672689,131684119,2017-06-28 17:44:07,">>131684040 Let it happen",,Anonymous,358093.jpg,L7dXgn1nTzrY6nfBZKvQrg==,AR,,1498671847 131672689,131684127,2017-06-28 17:44:11,">>131681913 >>131683105 >>131683766 >>131683811 >can longboarders be ancaps?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498671851 131672689,131684429,2017-06-28 17:46:54,"What's to stop large corporations from destroying the environment in a libertarian society? And I'm not talking about CO2-memes real issues like plastic in ocean, smog-filled cities like in China, destroying forests etc. Genuine question.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672014 131672689,131684446,2017-06-28 17:47:01,how would the expropriation of land to build roads work in this society?,,Anonymous,,,,,1498672021 131672689,131684508,2017-06-28 17:47:37,">>131683811 He did go on about capitalism, but more in a way that connects it with western degeneracy, on the other hand he promoted a reich which raises itself on an individual level from within and that a state who enforce all kinds of rules as in a state of decay, and on an individual level he said you won the fight against degeneracy if you don't have to force you to stop consuming shit, but rather don't even lust for it. On the other hand he ranted against mussolini and natsocs while living in vienna. He was one of the most educated man in many aspects,but not really an economics man, pretty sure he was an excentric old guy in his last years.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672057 131672689,131684533,2017-06-28 17:47:51,">>131676692 >What should the age of consent be 16-18, pick any age within that range. >what if someone buys all the territory and roads around my house and bans me from any travelling at all. Nobody would ever do that; refer to the OP. > avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672071 131672689,131684672,2017-06-28 17:49:09,>>131677306,,Anonymous,Mises_on_Fascism.jpg,9QvQLBMFSKthD8aRYgjvvw==,,,1498672149 131672689,131684738,2017-06-28 17:49:48,">>131676692 there will be no age of consent",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672188 131672689,131684752,2017-06-28 17:49:56,"Countries for Libertarians: >make your top 10 list 1. Switzerland 2. USA 3. Liechtenstein 4. Netherlands 5. Checzia 6. Slovakia 7. Poland 8. Hong Kong 9. Singapore 10. Malta",,^~,hoppe-feelgood.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,,,1498672196 131672689,131684860,2017-06-28 17:50:56,">>131684119 That looks dangerous. Would be a shame if your car lost grip...",,Anonymous,Shingo.jpg,8f1//UPW3O9gpA5HNE3NDw==,,,1498672256 131672689,131684899,2017-06-28 17:51:18,">>131673109 >flag",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672278 131672689,131684981,2017-06-28 17:52:04,">>131684752 The chechz will get their rights to bear arms written in their constitution soon, my state media is bashing them for this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672324 131672689,131685017,2017-06-28 17:52:22,,,Anonymous,HVF8hsu.jpg,P6FPtaUEma6T9QvpFwBZkg==,AR,,1498672342 131672689,131685336,2017-06-28 17:55:26,">>131681592 is this supposed to prove a point?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672526 131672689,131685427,2017-06-28 17:56:18,">>131684981 Based Checzs, we should love them a lot more in these /lrg/ threads! Guns should be a major point for european libertarians!",,^~,19222931_1432351253520157_5624590672074054292_o.jpg,3sqx/ymkDswMlSs99FuHhw==,,,1498672578 131672689,131685666,2017-06-28 17:58:34,">>131682357 >pic What is that?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672714 131672689,131685740,2017-06-28 17:59:22,">>131684429 firstly ALL property is owned, there is no public property, this is very important. If all property either belongs to you or someone else your two options to dispose waste are: >Dump you waste on your property, destroying its value (either making it unusable, or unsellable other than being a private dump.) nothing stops you from doing this, its just highly disincentivized unless you plan to make money being a waste disposal service) >Dump waste on another person's property If voluntarily like intended they are probably are being paid to dispose of your waste. If not then you’re destroying their property and they would naturally not take kindly to that shit as a bonus Gasses are harmful to other and also justify force being used against you or your property. Alot of ""what if"" ancap questions can be solved the same way they are solved in other societies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672762 131672689,131685773,2017-06-28 17:59:39,">>131684429 corporations and company's that pollute would not be favored in the public eye if people want cleaner oceans and no smog filled city's then they would not buy from those polluting company's and the company that is polluting would have to change its way or start losing money",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672779 131672689,131686017,2017-06-28 18:01:58,"Sup guys. I'm going to do an edit of the ""Stressed out"" music for libertarianism. I'll throw in our memes and quotes, Hoppe/Rothbard speeches, Pinochet images, Ron Paul videos, Cantwell -- and contrast them with the shit positions and videos we have from the LP and other lite-libertarian schmucks.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498672918 131672689,131686073,2017-06-28 18:02:26,">>131685666 >666 >EU flag >asking about Korwin Mikke holy shit im spooked",,^~,1486327463459.png,gw25vaWr8yc+uBp6i36ahw==,,,1498672946 131672689,131686132,2017-06-28 18:03:05,">>131684429 >smog-filled cities assuming that the corporation doesn't own the city, they'd be violating the NAP, so the owner of the polluted land would be justified in using force against them. >deforestation If you want more trees, buy more wood.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498672985 131672689,131686227,2017-06-28 18:03:57,">>131685427 >Guns should be a major point for european libertarians! Yes, but people are too afraid in europe you can't get them to vote for gun rights. You can't even get them to be pro free speech because words can hurt sometimes more than a punch. We also got a law that could even ban libertarians for not accepting the state, if they bend it liek intended, it is now just used for some degenerate new age venus project esoteric hippies and so called ""reichsbürger"" but that they were just the test; arrest the crazy ones and the plebs will clap and that's what they did. So I see it coming, it is only a time until they start arresting libertarians too, because I think that was the whole point of this law.",,Anonymous,1337199616284.jpg,DloiBoqAHz3DOFmrBpQkRg==,,,1498673037 131672689,131686246,2017-06-28 18:04:07,">>131685740 But what about unowned land?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498673047 131672689,131686298,2017-06-28 18:04:37,">>131685740 >>131685773 There is more to destroying climate than dumping trash. Cutting down forests will affect everybody, even if the forest is on one person's property. Then we have the issue of emissions from factories affecting the climate, even if the emissions happen on your property. And plastic in the ocean is a worldwide problem because most water is international. There are a gorillion environment regulations and laws just to deal with issues like this, many international ones. I see no legit reason to back away from these.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673077 131672689,131686358,2017-06-28 18:05:12,">>131686246 in the modern age, there will be no unowned land unless it is truely unusable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673112 131672689,131686441,2017-06-28 18:06:04,">>131686298 It would be pretty stupid to cut down your forest without planting new trees, if you want to make money from it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673164 131672689,131686531,2017-06-28 18:07:03,">>131686073 is that his wife or something? what's her name",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673223 131672689,131686573,2017-06-28 18:07:26,">>131684429 Property owners would be allowed to sue corporations for damaging their bodies and property. See Thomas DiLorenzo's book The Problem With Socialism or some articles by the Mises Institute on this man.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498673246 131672689,131686587,2017-06-28 18:07:31,">>131686441 Yet that is what happens in Brazil and happened in Britain during the 1800s. Almost as if people aren't always 100% rational and sometimes shortsighted, greedy and plainly dumb.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673251 131672689,131686697,2017-06-28 18:08:42,">>131672689 >crypto-jew general ftfy",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498673322 131672689,131686855,2017-06-28 18:10:24,">>131686587 Short-sightedness, greediness and stupity run amok larger with a state and with socialism rather than without. Spillover effects of pollution have already been addressed by Rothbard and Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498673424 131672689,131686884,2017-06-28 18:10:41,">>131686573 So each individual person would have to sue the giant factories, causing an enormous process of determining his individual damages and individual case. Seems like an awful lot of bureaucracy instead of just having strict regulations of the factories to begin with,",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673441 131672689,131686907,2017-06-28 18:10:57,">>131686298 You want to enter a contract to live in a society that is dedicated to protecting the forests and oceans? I am absolutely okay with that I would never stop such a thing. it does not go against property rights to organize like that that, ofcourse assuming you don't force me into such a contract. Would you threaten my life If I wanted cut down trees on my property?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673457 131672689,131686941,2017-06-28 18:11:15,">>131686246 Then they'd be homesteading it; they'd be making it their land by dumping shit on it, and they'd be polluting their own property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673475 131672689,131687070,2017-06-28 18:12:39,">>131686531 Nah nigga, image search korwin anime how the fuck do you not know about this living meme? hoppean libertarian in the european parliament",,^~,make-my-day-hhh.jpg,tgbVnhziycImt8BNTrjHnA==,,,1498673559 131672689,131687133,2017-06-28 18:13:18,">>131686855 *citation needed* >>131686907 If your property was the amazonian rainforest and you wanted to cut it all down then yes, I think I'd be morally obliged to stop you with force. If it was your own small property then no, the state should fuck off from our individual lives as much as possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673598 131672689,131687199,2017-06-28 18:13:55,">>131686884 It is true that individual property owners suing individual factories would be laborious and ridden with bureaucracy, which is why most landlords -- whether they be regular landlords, covenant contractors or company towns -- would have provisions for it on their contracts with their tenants. Polluted places are, as you imagine, undesirable places to live and would therefore have a ""low demand"" in the market of places to live.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498673635 131672689,131687280,2017-06-28 18:14:44,">>131686884 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673684 131672689,131687317,2017-06-28 18:15:06,">>131677652 In violence everyone is the same. Someone whom wants less state would never accept a shit ton of power going to the state, so no.",,Snek,,,BA,,1498673706 131672689,131687536,2017-06-28 18:17:09,">>131687133 Okay if you're asking me for citations on why socialism kills the planet as well as everything it touches you might be as retarded as the others using your flag. Read Democracy The God That Failed by Hoppe if you want to see the pattern between democracy and socialism, public property and pollution, state and degeneration of conduct. If you're not a fullblown AnCap by then you'll at least be able to call out a few of your buddies on some misconceptions about us.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498673829 131672689,131687756,2017-06-28 18:19:11,">>131687317 Fascism doesn't need a state. Enforced property rights are enough. There are many different forms of fascism and many philosophical varieties of it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498673951 131672689,131687839,2017-06-28 18:19:57,">>131687756 woke",,^~,govt=dindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,,,1498673997 131672689,131687884,2017-06-28 18:20:24,">>131687756 Fuck you, now I want to read about it.",,Snek,,,BA,,1498674024 131672689,131688051,2017-06-28 18:21:57,">>131687839 Fighting against the image that others gave me, must feel like you dealing with left-libertarians.",,Anonymous,korwin3.png,vPYAkpGa/LvzjAGu+C4HlA==,,,1498674117 131672689,131688150,2017-06-28 18:22:51,fedora general,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1498674171 131672689,131688291,2017-06-28 18:24:09,">>131688051 Tell me about it man. It's nightmarish.",,Anonymous,opfsdlvh1gpy.png,ndjkzExmlGUc65PyItGwRw==,PT,,1498674249 131672689,131688316,2017-06-28 18:24:28,">>131687133 thats a high value property you're talking about. I must be extremely weathly to afford such a high income generating property. So wealthy that I must have the biggest defense force in the land to maintain it. This is MY rainforest. What are you gonna to about it? What are you going to do if a goverment wants to cut down the rainforest? are you gonna stop it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498674268 131672689,131688382,2017-06-28 18:25:09,">>131672689 >""""""""""libertarian"""""""""" right",,Anonymous,1497164559141.png,gsVPsw5hQsLU5xJB/JhvuA==,,,1498674309 131672689,131688435,2017-06-28 18:25:40,">>131688051 Argueing with natsocs is worse than argueing with left libs",,^~,,,,,1498674340 131672689,131688607,2017-06-28 18:27:13,">>131688382 That's right: you're the Joker baby!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498674433 131672689,131688708,2017-06-28 18:28:10,">>131672689 The new Hoppewave is lit, senpai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498674490 131672689,131688817,2017-06-28 18:29:15,">>131688435 I know, especially when they want to be super edgy and think they are going to redpill you on things you knew since years, because they are edgy. Or the ones who think race is just DNA and want to shit out more babies to live on welfare. Or the full blown socialists, who identify with the left wing of the nsdap.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498674555 131672689,131688849,2017-06-28 18:29:29,">>131688316 Not to mention cutting down all the trees and leaving a barren landscape would drive down his property value. He'd be better off maintaining it as a wildlife refuge and perhaps selling hunting licences and tourist guides as means of paying for his investment. Destroying the land would be disadvantageous. But he's a socialist so you never know.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498674569 131672689,131689169,2017-06-28 18:32:37,">>131688849 of course my dude, I aint gonna cut down that rainforest, this shit is beautiful.",,Anonymous,media_gallery-2016-02-12-4-amazon_rainforest_2_c28422fe3f359aa49e9bba5d5cbd3e7a.jpg,7Uoi5rU9bUKeNJJ/piT4GA==,,,1498674757 131672689,131689248,2017-06-28 18:33:20,">>131688817 >they want to be super edgy and think they are going to redpill you on things you knew since years so true, and as you say, most of them are not """"far right"""" they're actually socialists",,^~,1490448386668.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,,,1498674800 131672689,131689722,2017-06-28 18:38:12,">>131688817 >>131689248 I think debating left-ShitLibs are worse but nazis are pretty bad, the worst shit is when they assume NatSoc is the end all last level redipill and that everyone else is either ingnorant or too afraid to join the ranks of natsoc faggotry.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498675092 131672689,131690185,2017-06-28 18:42:36,">>131689722 These are the stages of redpill; NatSoc isn't even close to the end.",,Anonymous,1497378059640.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,,,1498675356 131672689,131690260,2017-06-28 18:43:16,">>131689722 >NatSoc is the end all last level redipill and that everyone else is either ingnorant or too afraid to join the ranks of natsoc faggotry. Yeah this is the worst and I am ashamed because I was also like this around 16-18. Fun thing is back in the days common people agreed with me when I was citing the partyprogram but didn't mention where it came from. Nowadays I just receive hate for criticizing the welfare state or the state in general.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498675396 131672689,131690338,2017-06-28 18:43:58,">>131684752 Are there any differences between the cantons in Switzerland like there are states in the USA?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498675438 131672689,131690356,2017-06-28 18:44:06,">>131690185 Someone should really replace Murray's picture in there. He belongs with Hoppe and the Mises folk, not Stage 2 faggotry.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498675446 131672689,131690541,2017-06-28 18:45:59,">>131690356 This is so right. Replace Murray >>131690185",,^~,,,,,1498675559 131672689,131690543,2017-06-28 18:46:00,">>131690356 That's true; Hayek or Friedman, maybe?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498675560 131672689,131690607,2017-06-28 18:46:36,">>131681472 what idiot made this? >libertarianism does not equal (((open-borders))) ""open-borders"" concers state borders, not private property borders the state has no legal nor moral right to forbid entry to a person that has been invited to a private property and secured a transport there >(((multiculturalism))) or univeral (((inclusivity))) libertarianism is the only ideology that considers everyone to enjoy equal freedoms (so called negative freedoms) and equal opportunities for business, regardless of race or creed >we must not tolerate egalitarianism there can be private properties that can legally enforce egalitarianism as condition of entry there can be private properties where residents voluntarily live in a marxist commune you have no moral right to forbid them from doing that. the author should read more Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498675596 131672689,131690635,2017-06-28 18:46:52,">>131690543 Friedman I'd say is more recognizable nowadays",,^~,,,,,1498675612 131672689,131690663,2017-06-28 18:47:07,">>131690356 I volunteer, whos it gonna be?",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,kjzv7W5jKnSx19ggmzlUag==,,,1498675627 131672689,131690688,2017-06-28 18:47:22,">>131690541 I didn't make this image; I got it from another thread on /pol/ a while ago.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498675642 131672689,131690899,2017-06-28 18:49:29,">>131690688 I made that image waaay back, I didn't took the time to replace Murray's picture. I'd say we go with Gary Johnson since he epitomises lite-libertarian faggotry.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498675769 131672689,131690934,2017-06-28 18:49:51,">>131690663 Friedman, Nozick, Hayek, Paul, maybe even Ayn Rand.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498675791 131672689,131691300,2017-06-28 18:53:33,">>131690899 It's hard to even think of Gary Johnson as libertarian; He also doesn't fit in as a stage of red-pill. Friedman at least is more redpilled than the generic conservative, while Gary Johnson can't be considered redpilled at all.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498676013 131672689,131691301,2017-06-28 18:53:33,">>131690934 or like, Johnson, to slander the dude",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498676013 131672689,131691660,2017-06-28 18:57:13,">>131691300 >He also doesn't fit in as a stage of red-pill. Friedman at least is more redpilled than the generic conservative, while Gary Johnson can't be considered redpilled at all. You are absolutely right. I agree we go with Friedman then. The father, that is. Patri and David are alright.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498676233 131672689,131691820,2017-06-28 18:58:43,">>131690934 Ron Paul is red pilled belive me. He wrote those racist rants on Lew Rockwell years back and probably knew Rothbard in person since they were both in the LP. He has to keep his power level low, but he's against the Fed and against degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498676323 131672689,131691949,2017-06-28 18:59:52,">>131690607 >""open-borders"" concers state borders, not private property borders. I've written and read so much about this that it pains me to go through this with you. If you want to end the state just say end the state. The way you left libertarians think it will not be harmfull to simply open the state borders as a standalone goal is beyond retarded, you are effectively opening property borders. The Equal Employment Opportunity act, as part of the civil rights act has made it illegal to discriminate in all commercial properties. Where I live these immigrants would have access to all public roads, schools hospitals and even my property, only ending at my home, but they are welcome all the way up to my doorstep. I can't defend myself because it is illegal to have such a weapon needed to fight the hordes that would enter the country it is quite literally forced integration of immigrants into private property without the owner's consent. >The equal employment opportunity act: https://www.eeoc.gov/employers/upload/poster_screen_reader_optimized.pdf >Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal | Lew Rockwell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8 Nations by Consent Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property Open borders is funded by the same corporate entities that fund the socialists for open borders.",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1498676392 131672689,131692001,2017-06-28 19:00:22,">>131691820 Yeah, you're right; I guess he has to hide his power level when he wants to appeal to the GOP voters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498676422 131672689,131692156,2017-06-28 19:01:59,LIBERTARIAN FASCISM. When does the revolution start.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498676519 131672689,131692359,2017-06-28 19:03:59,">>131692001 Yeah, they did know each other. From a WP article: ""Rothbard and Paul had known and worked with each other in the 1970s, when they came to know Rockwell. Rockwell would work closely with both men, serving as Paul’s congressional chief of staff until he left to found the Mises Institute with Rothbard. Rockwell also was the editor of a series of printed newsletters for both men in the ensuing decades. Paul’s publications became famous during his Republican presidential campaigns. Their controversial nature is no surprise, given that Paul had coyly endorsed the paleolibertarian strategyshortly after it was devised. Sold under various titles, the highly lucrative newsletters frequently stoked racial fears, similar to what Trump has been doing this year, though they went further — one even gave advice on using an unregistered gun to shoot “urban youth.” Another issue mocked black Americans by proposing alternative names for New York City such as “Zooville” and “Rapetown,” while urging black political demonstrators to hold their protests “at a food stamp bureau or a crack house.”",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498676639 131672689,131692553,2017-06-28 19:05:58,">>131690607 I'm not done with you. Multiculturalism is often state enforced, (see the civil rights act) and where it does take place results in racial tension and violence. If you want to hang out with black, brown or yellow people that's fine, but it must not be enforced the way it is. People must be free to associate and segregate if we are to maintain a libertarian social order. As for egalitarianism, it has no place in a movement centered on property rights. Egalitarianism seeks to destroy libertarianism as the most evil idea.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498676758 131672689,131692671,2017-06-28 19:07:18,">>131691820 This. Ron Paul played nice for the election, the dude is full blown redpilled.",,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,,,1498676838 131672689,131692762,2017-06-28 19:08:08,">>131692156 we need public support, team up with fashies who arent staunchly anti-property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498676888 131672689,131692926,2017-06-28 19:09:57,">>131692156 soon",,Anonymous,no tread on us.jpg,y3W0cPbwxuH7U9nxkPhFvA==,,,1498676997 131672689,131693056,2017-06-28 19:11:13,">>131692926 fucking nice ass flag.",,Anonymous,AnFasces.png,nPDb0IVenvjAIRPrymjXTw==,,,1498677073 131672689,131693058,2017-06-28 19:11:13,">>131692762 hmm my friends are communalist, need to find some fashies I guess.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498677073 131672689,131693151,2017-06-28 19:12:01,">>131692926 That fasce needs to be within the snek. Also what's that tattoo about?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498677121 131672689,131693269,2017-06-28 19:13:14,">>131693056 sadly it is not mine. also i am >>131690260 lost my connection.",,Anonymous,anfashy.jpg,f/g1ZBEbTW6lGZpnWvQCqg==,,,1498677194 131672689,131693439,2017-06-28 19:14:59,">>131693151 that is not mine saw it on fagbook and the guy was talking about he had the A for anarchy tatoo before. But I liked the flag so I saved it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498677299 131672689,131693827,2017-06-28 19:19:06,">>131692926 One day our patience will run dry and then the communists will have their brazen, lying mouths stuffed once and for all!",,Anonymous,,,,,1498677546 131672689,131693867,2017-06-28 19:19:32,">>131690260 Where are you now? You're into more into markets, but to what degree to you wish to enact fascism? You want some strong borders and a free market ethnostate or what? I guess what I'm trying to ask is what parts of each idea would you wish to use? Have you got an ideal covenant in mind?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498677572 131672689,131693943,2017-06-28 19:20:13,">>131693439 anarchy is a great idea that embodies FREEDOM, but it needs to have a more strictly organized ""military"" part to support it, or the anarchy gets subverted by stronger organizations",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498677613 131672689,131694166,2017-06-28 19:22:23,">>131674892 There will be judges, but this case doesn't look good for you. The judges will either be assigned depending on the private city the crime happens in, or, if in a plural law private city, judges will have a reputation system and your insurances (which will probably be used to having to resolve conflicts between each other's customers and have a few judges already in mind) will chose one according to the nature of the case and their expertise.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498677743 131672689,131694470,2017-06-28 19:25:20,"http://archive.is/JUTXy This guy claims to be libertarian, but he doesn't even recognize the right to discriminate. How did the Libertarian Party fuck up so badly?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498677920 131672689,131694483,2017-06-28 19:25:29,">>131676692 Age of consent will be decided in a decentralized way, by cultural values, mostly. Most prosperous communities will most likely have an aoc ranging between 16-18, as most parents will want their children to be protected, so they will move to communities where they are protected, just like parents today wouldn't move to India slums if they care for their daughters, for example.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498677929 131672689,131694518,2017-06-28 19:25:52,">>131694166 Sup Maltabro!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498677952 131672689,131694581,2017-06-28 19:26:23,>>131692156,,Anonymous,Ready When You Are.png,BBBR85K+WjcW6dwZnY/daw==,US,,1498677983 131672689,131695262,2017-06-28 19:32:54,"I feel like anti-capitalist shills have been out in full force recently. I think it's more than the normal fascism, which I can tolerate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498678374 131672689,131695274,2017-06-28 19:33:00,">>131693867 Ideal is the holy roman empire of the german nation, but due the lack of leaders, free markets are teh best solution because people will come back to old european ideals, which made europe strong in the first place. Fascism on a spiritual way should lead people to live up to an ideal which lay the foundation to the throne onto which a true leader chisen by the heaven will descend, so the heaven (sun) can finally connect to the soil. Ideals should be loyalty, authority, sacrifice for the survival of your family for example. the will to fight if you have to. something we call sozialer frieden, basically means, don't envy someone who has more, or think it is right to steal just because you have less. Try to find a niche in your society where you can fit in. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggamEH4Fi3A posted it before but it unintentionally describes what I understand as fascism.",,Anonymous,no step on kyoko.png,TNf4XA8LJGyt8QZ5IGw2Kw==,,,1498678380 131672689,131695488,2017-06-28 19:34:51,">>131692156 I suggest going on That_Guy_T's channel and looking for libertarian fascism",,P_R,,,,,1498678491 131672689,131695517,2017-06-28 19:35:08,">>131694518 Nothing much, shitposting a big before heading to bed, missed these threads, too much leftypol cancer lately. >>131695262 This morning was one of the worst raids I've witnessed, if I had to read once more how I'm wrong about what Marx meant I would have killed myself.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498678508 131672689,131695673,2017-06-28 19:36:28,">>131695274 seems pretty based tbqh, would live in such a covenant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498678588 131672689,131696422,2017-06-28 19:43:50,">>131680969 Many here know that I'm going to a conference in Malta with Hoppe as star guest soon, only know one guy who is coming with me, the rest are unknown, mostly Swedes. Tbqh I was surprised reading their forum and listening to the organizators, they are quite redpilled on Hoppean libertarianism and it's obviously the fastest growing branch of libertarianism at the moment. Posted a bit around and people seem to appreciate my posts quite a lot, haven't had anyone trying to debate me, just people agreeing. Quite nice.",,Anonymous,catochet.gif,2KUGn9I1/10ty6KNvIkcdQ==,MT,,1498679030 131672689,131696682,2017-06-28 19:46:17,">>131696422 http://tomwoods.com/ep-935-is-europe-hopeless-for-liberty-not-so-fast/ An interview of Tom woods with one of the organizators.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498679177 131672689,131696690,2017-06-28 19:46:21,">>131695488 This one? He discusses it but seems to have trouble believing in it. The idea to me is enacting Libertarian laws through authoritarian means. The problem libertarians have today is that they don't have a centralized propoganda arm. So their idealogy gets over-run and distorted by detractors with stronger meme magic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498679181 131672689,131697071,2017-06-28 19:49:40,>>131696690we have meme magic of our own but it aint that strong,,P_R,,,,,1498679380 131672689,131697101,2017-06-28 19:49:59,">>131696422 Borrowed democracy the god that failed to a coworker so eh could read it when there was nothing to do, he was a classical liberal then, now he rants about how stupid our people are and that democracy is mob rule and socialistic.",,Anonymous,gayskins.jpg,Sb4MeegRYezGFLuzJsn5Lg==,,,1498679399 131672689,131697206,2017-06-28 19:51:02,">>131695517 The difficult thing is that there's a crooked way in which they're right. >income inequality Surely you want the rich jews to pay their fair share? >yellen wants to raise interest rates USURY. >minimum wage How is it fair that the greedy jews at the top earn so much more than the goyim? >capitalism in general It's how (((they))) got in power and it promotes dishonesty. Why would you trust (((Mises))) and (((Rothbard)))? In each case, nothing about their proposed policies actually fix the problems. In the real world, legislation almost always helps (((them.))) You can't legislate yourself out from under your overlords. If you are anti-capitalist, you'll only make your country poorer and less upwardly mobile.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498679462 131672689,131697229,2017-06-28 19:51:12,">>131696690 were also building an ancap city",,P_R,,,,,1498679472 131672689,131697725,2017-06-28 19:56:20,">>131697206 The eternal naivety of people who think giving tremendous power to an institution won't be controlled by those they despise and then used against them. If these people were ever exposed to voting with their feet in an ancap scenario 99% would have to swallow their words and go to the place that embraces everything they hate. They're too dumb to realize how wrong their ideas are until they are put in practice, and then once they're put in practice, and fail, they're too dumb to realize failure is inherent on the incentives they generate.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498679780 131672689,131698109,2017-06-28 20:00:15,">>131697206 Yes, why should I hate on a jew who wants to abolish the system under which the tribe can force laws on you. I a jew comes to wealth because he is honest and intelligent and will defend the town together against agressors why not, but if they pull out some shit to betray people I am also ok if they get chased out of the town. like in the old days.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498680015 131672689,131698266,2017-06-28 20:01:49,">>131697725 >They're too dumb to realize how wrong their ideas are until they are put in practice, and then once they're put in practice, and fail, they're too dumb to realize failure is inherent on the incentives they generate. Typical german patriot: the state betrayed us as they opened the borders, we need more state power to prevent this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498680109 131672689,131698737,2017-06-28 20:06:32,>tfw not living on a private covenant centered on family-and-kin centered lifestyles,,Anonymous,,,,,1498680392 131672689,131699440,2017-06-28 20:13:23,Ancapism = marxism for the bourgeoisie,,Anonymous,,,,,1498680803 131672689,131699686,2017-06-28 20:15:43,">>131691949 >you left libertarians nice strawman, i'll bet you don't even understand where right and left comes from Bastiat sat on the left so i guess i'm proud to be called that, even if by mistake >If you want to end the state just say end the state okay: end the state! further existence of the state is immoral. ancap is the only valid solution. >you are effectively opening property borders. you are: - literally putting words in my mouth that i explicitly disagreed with - going from A to Z without even touching B through Y let me reiterate my point in simpler terms, so you can understand: an owner of private property X invites a to come and stay at X, paying for the transport and signing any agreements with owners of other private properties that the transport will travel through. this whole ordeal is none of your fucking business and none of the state's fucking business. if you are denying that, you are denying an owner the right to do with their property what they please. that is against libertarianism. that is the meaning of ""open borders"" in libertarian thought. the end. >Equal Employment Opportunity no one was even talking about this, jesus christ. >>131692553 >Multiculturalism is often state enforced of course it shouldn't be enforced by the state! the state shouldn't exist at all. >People must be free to associate and segregate agreed >As for egalitarianism, it has no place in a movement centered on property rights. wrong. any person has the right to any beliefs as long as NAP is not violated and the central axioms of private property and self-ownership are followed. simple as that. what right do you have to enforce what other can and cannot believe? that's fucking commie talk.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498680943 131672689,131699809,2017-06-28 20:16:50,">>131699440 No it is absolute hierachy based on property rights. If you see the bourgoisie just as the middel class they also form a part in the social hierachy and if you see it as a form of degenerate lifestyle, they would quickly die out, or have to change their lifestyle, becuase they can't leach of other people's money.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498681010 131672689,131699915,2017-06-28 20:17:47,">>131699440 Are you implying that fascism isn't a breeding ground for bourgeois corporations and government bureaucrats?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1498681067 131672689,131700080,2017-06-28 20:19:23,">>131698109 It seems to me you've got two different types of jew here. The Marx and Trotksy type are jealous that people are richer than them. They hate it that they're not the rich ones. They feel that wealth is a zero-sum game. They concern themselves with being wealthy relative to others. The Mises and Rothbard type doesn't care about relative wealth, only about absolute wealth. The fact that someone is richer than you doesn't make you poorer. In fact, having people richer than you in a way makes you richer. The latter is a very healthy avenue for their special genius because it lets everyone benefit from their genius. Now I'm not even against anti-competitive practices, but I do think there's a sense in which an ethnic group consolidating power is a scary thing. A lot of that goes away when you take away the state though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498681163 131672689,131700266,2017-06-28 20:21:01,burger libertarian testing my germ flag while on internship here,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1498681261 131672689,131700277,2017-06-28 20:21:06,"For any FB retards BCL (not the original) has a secret meme page that's basically a slow blue board /bant/ish page.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498681266 131672689,131700338,2017-06-28 20:21:42,">>131700266 don't get raped tonight.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498681302 131672689,131700431,2017-06-28 20:22:44,">>131699686 >this whole ordeal is none of your fucking business Under a libertarian system no, but his example is clearly under a statist society with social programs. So pragmatically you'd want to eliminate those social programs before opening up the borders for everyone. >Bastiat sat on the left Outdated definition. Might as well call America's founders leftists if you're using it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498681364 131672689,131700809,2017-06-28 20:26:24,">>131700431 Well if someone invites someone in he misbehaves and damages my property or rapes my daughter it becomes my business and I would wish to get compensation from the one who invited it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498681584 131672689,131700855,2017-06-28 20:26:50,Minarchy > ancap.,,Anonymous,,,,,1498681610 131672689,131701025,2017-06-28 20:28:27,">>131699686 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOFuhXn36Ew Whole video is required viewing. Especially at 11:25. Even fascists will probably agree he's 100% our guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498681707 131672689,131701099,2017-06-28 20:29:08,">>131700855 >Minarchy I don't really care what we call it as long as i'm in charge. Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498681748 131672689,131701137,2017-06-28 20:29:31,">>131700855 >thinking the state is immoral but still advocating for a state is better than thinking it's immoral and not advocating for a state. No.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498681771 131672689,131701565,2017-06-28 20:33:35,">>131701137 State is necessary evil, there's no alternative political structure with the necessary stability to protect citizens right. The state is and will always be only as moral as the people who enact and legitimize the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498682015 131672689,131701685,2017-06-28 20:34:46,">>131701565 Nice assertion. Now prove it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498682086 131672689,131701773,2017-06-28 20:35:29,">>131701565 >no alternative political structure with the necessary stability to protect citizens right What are contracts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498682129 131672689,131701888,2017-06-28 20:36:35,">>131701773 what are (((jews))) you mean? it's a principle duty of the state to protect against their corruption",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498682195 131672689,131702199,2017-06-28 20:39:50,">>131701888 What did he mean by this? >not addressing the fact that contracts possess the necessary stability to protect people",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498682390 131672689,131702243,2017-06-28 20:40:14,Why not /libertarian left/?,,Anonymous,,,,,1498682414 131672689,131702368,2017-06-28 20:41:34,">>131702199 contracts are great and all but they are only pieces of paper. You need a strong state to enforce them and keep people honest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498682494 131672689,131702456,2017-06-28 20:42:26,">>131702368 >contracts are great and all but they are only pieces of paper. so is a constitution.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498682546 131672689,131702760,2017-06-28 20:45:30,">>131702368 >You need a strong state to enforce them and keep people honest. You do not. What books have you read? >they are only pieces of paper They are and you should take precautions to ensure they're enforced.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498682730 131672689,131702940,2017-06-28 20:47:26,">>131702199 People on /pol/ have a strong tendency to change the subject to (((jews))) whenever they can't argue a point, since (((they))) are the only subject that these people are informed about.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498682846 131672689,131702992,2017-06-28 20:47:58,">>131702760 without a strong state to appeal to, the entity with more power can and will screw over the other party. BUT MUH CONTRACT, doesn't hold any water when I can just bully you and say WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. contracts are living documents, they only hold as much power as granted by the power structure they exist in.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498682878 131672689,131703214,2017-06-28 20:50:26,">>131702992 Have you ever heard of an underwriter? Have you ever heard of a performance bond? Have you ever heard the word ""escrow""?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498683026 131672689,131703415,2017-06-28 20:52:30,">>131702940 I swear the shills must use this more than actual /pol/acks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498683150 131672689,131703445,2017-06-28 20:52:43,">>131703214 >underwriter what if your underwriter's loyalties shift >performance bond ok, who enforces the bond? >escrow who do you trust with the escrow without authority and trust flowing from a state its much more difficult to organize in a meaningful fashion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498683163 131672689,131703748,2017-06-28 20:55:44,">>131703415 Probably, but there are definitely people that do this that aren't shills.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498683344 131672689,131703983,2017-06-28 20:58:17,">>131703415 if i'm a shill i'd very much like to know who i am shilling for other than myself Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498683497 131672689,131703993,2017-06-28 20:58:20,">>131703445 >what if your underwriter's loyalties shift >ok, who enforces the bond? Any number of things. You did make sure they had a second-order underwriter right? If you didn't, you could always go to arbitration. >who do you trust with the escrow Anybody who cares about his reputation. Local or foreign. Please read Ethics of Liberty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498683500 131672689,131704117,2017-06-28 20:59:37,">>131703748 >>131703983 Yeah I'm just saying they're learning so keep your eyes peeled.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498683577 131672689,131704637,2017-06-28 21:04:35,">>131703993 If I had to rely on a chain of underwriters to write every contract, i'd never get any business done. Much simpler to write a contract, and if you don't follow the terms of the contract, I use the power of the state to sue you. Just having the pressure from the potential state involvement alone is enough to ensure that the contract is enforced. I don't have to go begging to the Jews to underwrite my contract, because the State gives me independence and freedom. I can do business cleanly because the only loyalty I need is a state that enforces my liberties, and has my back in a contract dispute.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498683875 131672689,131705770,2017-06-28 21:15:53,">>131704637 >I use the power of the state to sue you No. You use private courts. If it can be proven that someone stole from you, then you have the right to expropriate damages, even hiring a repo man to expropriate for you. What do you think of cryptocurrencies? How does a distributed system like that stay stable? I think you put too little stock in distributed systems. It will certainly be efficient. The underwriter helps you get the most business done fastest will profit the most. They'll have teams of agents working to make things go smoothly because that's the only way they make money. You should read about this from the primary sources. Also read about natural law. It's not interesting for me to fix your reading deficit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498684553 131672689,131706347,2017-06-28 21:21:49,">>131705770 Lol. At this point in my life, the less I know the better. I'm plotting a virtual banking system thats going to make a lot of powerful enemies if it works. Best if I can play dumb Kek.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498684909 131672689,131706724,2017-06-28 21:25:52,">>131706347 I dunno about that. (((They))) are great at playing dumb, so why shouldn't you?. You should definitely learn all you can about this stuff with a project like that. Good luck in your endeavors anon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498685152 131672689,131706881,2017-06-28 21:27:14,,,Anonymous,1498337898300.jpg,cn7zYt0hboGsOYZ1jwY0SA==,US,,1498685234 131672689,131707221,2017-06-28 21:30:32,">>131700431 we're not talking about statist society, the picture was about open borders in libertarianism. if you don't have anything to say then don't talk. >>131700809 well then he's not staying at the property he was invited to, does he? since he's invading someone else's property he violates NAP. shoot him.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498685432 131672689,131707438,2017-06-28 21:32:42,">>131702368 who makes sure that the strong state follows the law? that's right: fucking no one.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498685562 131672689,131707778,2017-06-28 21:36:14,">>131707221 >well then he's not staying at the property he was invited to, does he? since he's invading someone else's property he violates NAP. shoot him. But the one who invited him should also be hold accountable for the misbehaviour of his guest, otherwise he just could just invite another, criminal. without ever facing consequences, for using his property as an option to bring criminals near 3rd parties. This way you would also assure that peopel only invite people they can trust.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498685774 131672689,131708017,2017-06-28 21:38:57,"Be Good goys, fight your allies!",,Anonymous,RELATABLE.png,2Kub72hDOjfNINkJzVb4UQ==,,,1498685937 131672689,131708132,2017-06-28 21:40:14,">>131706881 wtf i love papa johns now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498686014 131672689,131708849,2017-06-28 21:48:07,">>131672689 I agree with most of these ideologies, except what stops big biz from becoming oppressive monopoly? What gives protection and holds accountability to environmental welfare and other ""long term"" issues that seem to come with big corps doing dirty shit. How do we go about this in a way that you can still start a biz or do your thing and not get squashed, how do we go about this in a way we have an environment to rape for future generations?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498686487 131672689,131708941,2017-06-28 21:49:11,">>131707221 >we're not talking about statist society >compulsory opening by the central state, the state in charge of all streets and public land areas Retard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498686551 131672689,131709372,2017-06-28 21:53:44,"What do you guys think about minarchism? Isn't it fair to say that a nationalized police force that upholds the legal system is beneficial? I also think that national defense should be publicly funded, because it protects a country from foreign threats. I think limited government services are better than complete anarchy. Can you try to convince me otherwise? >Police >Military everything else should be privatized IMO",,Anonymous,ScarySnek.png,8IPfxC7ZIimsg8zZ1sytmg==,,,1498686824 131672689,131710053,2017-06-28 22:01:14,">>131672689 why is /lrg/ not up all the time sometimes i just really need a place to go where people value freedom and the rest of /pol/ only cares about freedom in certain situations",,Anonymous,,,,,1498687274 131672689,131710170,2017-06-28 22:02:31,I would read Hoppe first.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498687351 131672689,131710424,2017-06-28 22:05:07,"In from 8ch's liberty. What the video ""machinery of freedom"" is proposing is what happened in ancient japan, rice farmers hired samurai to protect their businesses, and became rice empires, the judges they got became larger and more powerful rulers, and that whole mess led to the formation of japan as we know it today. We need government to ensure that our government doesn't grow, this is why it is important that government exists to enforce the NAP, police and military and immigration are essential as the domain of a government. I think the best idea is instead to remove the concepts of the blank slate, intellectual property, and democracy from our nations, without the blank slate, people will accept biological explanations for inequality, and stop asking for government to grow and ""make it fair"", without democracy, there would be no method for the lazy to affect public policy away from strictly enforcing the NAP, without intellectual property, the NAP cannot be used against itself to justify it's own violation, and large corporate lobby groups wont exist to grow the government with their influence, a flat tax to maintain the government will be all it would take, since there would be no other expenditures, and wages and opportunities would be so high, and private charities would do such a better job of caring for those who cannot work or pay for the tax (quadriplegics and retards, for example).",,Anonymous,,,,,1498687507 131672689,131710430,2017-06-28 22:05:10,">>131675787 people deserve the right to be faggots. Libertarians are supposed to value freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498687510 131672689,131710683,2017-06-28 22:07:47,">>131688435 agreed",,Anonymous,,,,,1498687667 131672689,131710808,2017-06-28 22:09:14,">>131710430 People also have the right to ostracize faggots; exclusion does not mean oppression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498687754 131672689,131711597,2017-06-28 22:16:41,">>131672689 >This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. What about if I hate the government and paying my taxes, but I don't respect property ""rights"", or any other phony notion of ""rights"" existing. In a stateless society, if I want something and have both the will and force to take it, I will have it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498688201 131672689,131712492,2017-06-28 22:25:21,">>131711597 Then fuck you; go kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498688721 131672689,131712888,2017-06-28 22:29:23,">>131672689 fucking awesome meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498688963 131672689,131713598,2017-06-28 22:36:49,">>131712492 In time, you too will become my property, so to speak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498689409 131672689,131713909,2017-06-28 22:40:07,">>131713598 I'd kill myself before I let that happen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498689607 131672689,131715007,2017-06-28 22:50:12,">>131711597 > If I want something and have both the will and force to take it, I will have it. This is exactly what the state is fundamentally. So please kindly fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498690212 131672689,131715605,2017-06-28 22:55:41,">>131710053 Because most people who think like us are busy living productive, fulfilling, happy lives. The political and internet presence of liberty-minded people is inherently going to be fairly weak, that is of course until things get so bad that they can't afford to stay out of the conversation.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498690541 131672689,131715634,2017-06-28 22:55:58,">>131710808 >People also have the right to ostracize faggots That's not nice",,Anonymous,,,,,1498690558 131672689,131715961,2017-06-28 22:58:47,">>131715634 What does being nice have to do with freedom?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498690727 131672689,131716037,2017-06-28 22:59:26,">>131715007 isn't that fine though, as long as its OUR state; not the degenerates with their bad ideas.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498690766 131672689,131716296,2017-06-28 23:02:09,">>131716037 You're either a troll or mentally handicapped.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498690929 131672689,131716385,2017-06-28 23:03:05,why shouldn't i use the state to my advantage and secure a ruling position for my self-benefit?,,Anonymous,redbeard.jpg,lyRSkdteBcAdxONWNSpN8g==,,,1498690985 131672689,131716471,2017-06-28 23:03:57,">>131716296 fuck off normie",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498691037 131672689,131716506,2017-06-28 23:04:17,">>131672689 Tax Land Not Man (((Right wing))) idiots ruing libertarianism for everyone. Go read some Nock shitlords",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,,,1498691057 131672689,131716688,2017-06-28 23:06:03,">>131716506 The state doesn't have a legitimate claim to the land.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498691163 131672689,131716698,2017-06-28 23:06:07,">>131716385 Because the state is simply a cult, it holds humanity back. If you don't care about humanity or don't think what you do in this life actually matters, then I suppose there is no reason not to do so.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498691167 131672689,131716901,2017-06-28 23:08:06,">>131716698 who cares if its a cult as long as its a cult that shares our values. The state is the GAME we seek to change the rules of the game",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498691286 131672689,131717076,2017-06-28 23:09:59,">>131715007 But I'm not the state. The state is evil because it has a monopoly on force. Without the state to hold one back, one could figuratively and literally own the world, provided he doesn't establish a state, that is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498691399 131672689,131717196,2017-06-28 23:11:24,">>131716901 You don't get how cults work do you. Cults never accomplish their intended goals, they are self-corrupting entities. You betray your values by attempting to fulfill them through belief in the state.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498691484 131672689,131717330,2017-06-28 23:12:50,">>131717076 one person can't rule the world. they must rely on other people to get things done. there must be a system a government for admnistering liberties, aka a goddamn state. Some of you are so wrapped in the libertarian bubble, its like you hate the game, so you wish there was no game and you can do what you want. there will always be a game though, the only way to bring about the change you want is to design a better game",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498691570 131672689,131717355,2017-06-28 23:13:07,">>131716698 >humanity",,Anonymous,hide.png,O0tgs4HDupHOpD/Jwdes8g==,,,1498691587 131672689,131717360,2017-06-28 23:13:13,">>131717076 > Without the state to hold one back, one could figuratively and literally own the world Not true. https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498691593 131672689,131717364,2017-06-28 23:13:18,"I suppose Mises, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman are all degenerates because they supported open borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498691598 131672689,131717366,2017-06-28 23:13:20,">>131716688 but the old man who put a fence around it does? Get the fuck out of here. You faggots claim to be champions of property rights but none of you scum bags follow the implication to its logical conclusion. Make a man king or owner of all the land it makes no difference as everyone would be indebted to him Land is common property that every person has a right to. Now im not a commy scum bag and would never advocate the confiscation of land. What we need to do is, abolish allodial land ownership, and collect the full economic rent of land in the form of a land value tax.",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,,,1498691600 131672689,131717489,2017-06-28 23:14:29,">>131717196 i'm a muslim and I worship Kek. of course i'm fucking corrupt. Kekekeke",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498691669 131672689,131717522,2017-06-28 23:14:52,">>131716688 double checked >>131717366 Putting a fence up is still more of a claim than a state saying ""that's mine""",,Anonymous,,,,,1498691692 131672689,131717637,2017-06-28 23:15:52,">>131717366 >I don't believe in private property, but I'm not a commie. Nice try.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498691752 131672689,131717709,2017-06-28 23:16:38,">>131717330 The state, like the ""game,"" is but a specter or a ghost in the mind - it's all looney toons. The state is oppressive because it doesn't allow for the individual to rise to his full potential, because an individual at his peak doesn't need the state, he needs only his will and his method of force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498691798 131672689,131717799,2017-06-28 23:17:29,">>131717637 No faggot you just have a very shallow understanding of property rights read pic related",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,,,1498691849 131672689,131717826,2017-06-28 23:17:48,">>131717330 You are simply confusing the glorified cult behaviour that is the modern nation state for legitimate systems of law and governance. It's central planning (playing god) vs. voluntary negotiation (spontaneous order)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498691868 131672689,131717987,2017-06-28 23:19:32,">>131717709 what if my method of force... is a state. If it's good enough for Ceasar, Khan, Hitler, Obama, etc etc. Its good enough for me. Libertarians cry that the state is not under their control, therefore it is evil. Which is fine. But they need to imagine a world in which the state is under their control if they ever want to achieve power.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498691972 131672689,131718156,2017-06-28 23:21:27,">>131717799 you're being shallow and pedantic also, why do you keep calling everyone in this thread a ""faggot""? Do you have some latent homosexual desires perhaps?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498692087 131672689,131718337,2017-06-28 23:23:21,">>131717522 so exactly how much ""labor"" is required for allodial ownership? Should the first person to walk around an island own the entire thing or is a fence required? Did the first man to discover a forest have a right to all its game and resources? law made property is nonsense and antithetical to the ideals of self ownership and liberty senpai",,Anonymous,commonvsstateprop.jpg,2HUhFgaPW/aBdZC7xmFcDg==,,,1498692201 131672689,131718379,2017-06-28 23:23:54,">>131717799 land-ownership is an extension of self-ownership: https://mises.org/blog/property-rights-and-human-rights >If a man has the right to self-ownership, to the control of his life, then in the real world he must also have the right to sustain his life by grappling with and transforming resources; he must be able to own the ground and the resources on which he stands and which he must use. In short, to sustain his “human right”—or his property rights in his own person—he must also have the property right in the material world, in the objects which he produces.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498692234 131672689,131718693,2017-06-28 23:27:28,for the shitskins in the thread,,Anonymous,govjoint.jpg,DDPhXEJj7Igh5qDtSaFpQw==,US,,1498692448 131672689,131718751,2017-06-28 23:28:11,">>131718379 Ludwig von Mises acknowledged in several places wholly unique distinctions between land and capital, but in his zeal to denounce land value tax, stated that, Classical economy erred when it assigned land a distinct place in its theoretical scheme. Land is, in its economic sense, a factor of production, and the laws determining the formation of the prices of land are the same that determine the formation of other forms of production.",,Anonymous,locked.jpg,Tb/Tx2IsMpbHuN8h81EzZg==,,,1498692491 131672689,131718847,2017-06-28 23:29:19,">>131718379 The difference between land and capital is huge, and explains why the cost of silicon chips goes down as demand goes up, while the cost of Silicon Valley goes up as demand goes up. There is no natural monopolization of capital, but, with state sanction, there is monopolization of land. But von Mises would sooner obscure these distinctions in socialist fashion than to embrace a proposal he mistakenly thought to be socialist.",,Anonymous,adamsmithisageoist.jpg,JUWppajMdiB5mV3ofkxBVg==,,,1498692559 131672689,131718908,2017-06-28 23:29:52,">>131718379 In his first edition of Human Action, von Mises attacked land value tax as based on the socialist principle that legitimate property flows only from labor. But that is also a libertarian principle, a classical liberal principle, an Austrian principle, and even the von Misean principle behind private property! So, by the third edition, von Mises changed his text to read that land taxers claim legitimate property flows only from manual labor. This is much more logically consistent, but factually incorrect. It is a correct assessment of what many socialists believe, but it is not a correct assessment of what land taxers believe. Henry George, the most prominent land taxer of all, wrote in his magnum opus, Progress and Poverty, Thus the term labor includes all human exertion in the production of wealth, and wages, being that part of the produce which goes to labor, includes all reward for such exertion. There is, therefore, in the political-economic sense of the term, no distinction as to the kind of labor, or as to whether its reward is received through an employer or not.... Perhaps von Mises was biased by his location in Europe, where classical liberalism had not fared as well as in America. He might also have first seen land value tax in the Communist Manifesto, and not realized that it was there as a socialist ploy to co-opt support from classical liberalism. (Marx expressed contempt for land value tax as a reform in its own right, and openly stated that his support of it was only to draw people to what he really wanted, which was to control capital.) If this is where von Mises got his first exposure to the idea, it would not be surprising to see him close his mind to it.",,Anonymous,marxandfriedmanonthesamepage.jpg,jQcX/dlW8Ly0ZxJ3JYAGYg==,,,1498692592 131672689,131719328,2017-06-28 23:34:26,">>131718379 if youre at all interested in the other parts of libertarianism check out this essay http://geolib.com/essays/sullivan.dan/royallib.html",,Anonymous,tj.jpg,iRwX2q2H1PS6JJv9cVQYvw==,,,1498692866 131672689,131719343,2017-06-28 23:34:39,">>131690934 >Mabe even Ayn Rand >Maybe even >Ayn Rand She is the greatest among them. Objectivism is not -a- philosophy but -the- philosophy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498692879 131672689,131719397,2017-06-28 23:35:05,">>131718337 >Should the first person to walk around an island own the entire thing or is a fence required? Did the first man to discover a forest have a right to all its game and resources? Ok, 1. YOU CAN NOT MANAGE SCARCE RESOURCES UNDER A COMMONS. It simply CAN NOT be done. Land is a scarce resource. 2. To answer your question, an original appropriation of unowned land (of which there is very little left in the world, outside that of which is under the unjust claims of the state) must be justified by showing you have put that land to use or are in the process of doing so. 3. Anyone who asks basic bitch questions like ""can a guy just walk around an island and declare it as his"" is simply ignorant of the fundamentals of libertarian thought. To be asking such questions in the first place, you are simply proving yourself IGNORANT of the absolute fundamentals of the ideas you are fighting against",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498692905 131672689,131719698,2017-06-28 23:38:14,">>131715961 You need to treat people how you want to be treated.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498693094 131672689,131719726,2017-06-28 23:38:28,">>131719397 >>131719397 >2. To answer your question, an original appropriation of unowned land (of which there is very little left in the world, outside that of which is under the unjust claims of the state) must be justified by showing you have put that land to use or are in the process of doing so. >put that land to use or are in the process of doing so. >put that land to use",,Anonymous,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,,,1498693108 131672689,131719764,2017-06-28 23:38:52,">>131718337 Have you never heard of the homesteading principle?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498693132 131672689,131719819,2017-06-28 23:39:28,">>131719397 Land ownership should be assigned to the person who can make wisest use of that land. If some NASA scientists need a launchpad for their work, the commons must appropriate that land for their important work. Rights must be given to the most wise or progress cannot be made.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498693168 131672689,131720686,2017-06-28 23:48:47,">>131719726 You asked about original appropriation (walking around an unowned island or forest and making a claim). A vacant lot implies a piece of property that is temporarily between use-cases (unless it's abandoned, in which case it's free to be homesteaded by anyone). The so-called profit the sign refers to is completely just, as an owner of such property would have to contribute to maintenance of surrounding regardless. In a libertarian society this would be done through small scale contractual agreements on a neighbourhood level, rather than through large scale municipal taxation. Vacant lots don't sit vacant for long if there is a use case for them, and if there isn't a use case then that implies there isn't much value anyway.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498693727 131672689,131720764,2017-06-28 23:49:47,">>131719819 >Land ownership should be assigned to the person who can make wisest use of that land. Central planning is absolutely ass-backwards retarded and can never be justified.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498693787 131672689,131720981,2017-06-28 23:52:16,">>131718751 >>131718847 >>131718908 That article wasn't written by Mises, but whatever: How does any of what you said justify taxation of land or prove that land can't be property? You said that there's a difference between land and capital, and that's it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498693936 131672689,131721630,2017-06-28 23:59:34,New thread?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498694374 131672689,131722220,2017-06-29 00:06:23,">>131720764 Having retarded people make decisions while the wise are oppressed is what's ass backwards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498694783 131672689,131722346,2017-06-29 00:07:57,">>131676692 13 or no age of consent.",,Anonymous,IMG_0978.jpg,qUPsUkCry8DdECQFJQvb2A==,US,,1498694877 131672689,131722513,2017-06-29 00:09:57,">>131672689 R8",,Anonymous,USA libtard flag.png,JBdNqSTlehzQ6fpo15CzKQ==,BE,,1498694997 131672689,131722724,2017-06-29 00:12:27,">>131722220 The problem is that only a God could know who is truly wise and who isn't. You and others like you are simply trying to play God, you are total control freaks. Life is not a game of Sim City.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498695147 131672689,131722968,2017-06-29 00:15:04,">>131722724 Traitor. Only Kek knows who is truly wise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498695304 131781726,131781726,2017-06-29 13:35:14,"ABOLISH GOVERNMENT IT'S NOTHING TO ME FORGET ABOUT GOD HE'S NOT HERE TO SEE",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1488455466717.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1498743314 131781726,131781866,2017-06-29 13:36:51,">>131781726 That why your Ideology best usually makes people laugh.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498743411 131781726,131782812,2017-06-29 13:47:33,">>131781726 is this shitpost the new general?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498744053 131781726,131783014,2017-06-29 13:49:28,,,Anonymous,1498143679290.jpg,xn2ubMm78m/zICst7D8Esg==,NL,,1498744168 131781726,131783109,2017-06-29 13:50:29,le exasperated ancap,,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann-Hoppe.jpg,f/agSSYTrR164oY7wiuXNQ==,,,1498744229 131781726,131783180,2017-06-29 13:51:15,">>131783014 killing people is awesome, what's your point anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498744275 131781726,131783292,2017-06-29 13:52:28,">>131781726 In theory great blue shill. But is there something happening today? NYT, CNN going bankrupt?",,Anonymous,dd6a58299b6875dc00734a6e8622c935.jpg,6jfpO75HdfRZrGKDPw0LXQ==,NL,,1498744348 131781726,131783692,2017-06-29 13:56:52,">>131783292 The state having nukes is evil, me having nukes is not evil",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498744612 131781726,131784004,2017-06-29 14:00:14,">>131781866 Says the faggot with a literal faggot on his flag...",,Anonymous,1495938021108.png,voRz/UEnLq9gQm87bocq5g==,GB,,1498744814 131781726,131784098,2017-06-29 14:01:13,">>131781726 GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST HOLY SPIRIT GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW 1488 1776 WORLD WIDE #America #Freedom #Liberty Our World. Our Time. Our Future. A Holy American Empire to rule the world for 1000 years. America, the Heartland. Jesus Country. Western Nations as satellite states. Maintaining individuality and autonomy. Retaining history. Australians stay Australian, but with American Freedoms and Liberties. British stay British, the French, French, etc. Full Freedom and Liberty. The biggest baddest empire this humanity has ever seen. Waiting for Jesus Christ to save us. With Holy Spirits help. God protects us from Jewry and any form of oppression. This is so the European(white) male and female can live well. That's all its about. So we can start families and continue the works of our Father. Retain our history, thousands of years in the making. A global effort by the commoner. For our greater good. We craft our future. Remove Kike. Remove Foreigner. One last War. Our World Forever After S H A D I L A Y ~ B R O T H E R S",,Anonymous,,,,,1498744873 131781726,131784859,2017-06-29 14:09:53,">>131784098 One Last War? That's not realistic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498745393 131781726,131784999,2017-06-29 14:11:21,,,Anonymous,1439696648466.jpg,6Jy+usJ7plrmA6SHEtBPVw==,GB,,1498745481 131781726,131785365,2017-06-29 14:14:58,"BASED BLACK MAN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498745698 131781726,131785780,2017-06-29 14:19:02,">>131783014 >Imperialism=/=Capitalism You can have capitalism without freedom but you can not have freedom without capitalism beside, the socialist kill count is immensely larger.",,Anonymous,The argument for liberty is not an argument against organization.jpg,L0QfAqcCcJAhTqbRYnuj0g==,,,1498745942 131781726,131786097,2017-06-29 14:21:58,">>131783014 cringe",,Anonymous,100000000 pixels of disgust.gif,wPZUqGQUm7Sk47uu17rSxQ==,GR,,1498746118 131809691,131809691,2017-06-29 18:01:24,"Time for another /lrg/ boys. Brought to you by Portubro. This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. This includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and right-wing reactionary-ism against the left (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, most of them have already been answered many times, so it is recommended you get to grip with the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to argue with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: discord gg jCVRCR3 INTRODUCTION/REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >(Further Reading - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg for a reference) THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Physical Removal Edition,Anonymous,hoppe badge.png,ec7mt/E7VeFDRS2o99pSww==,,,1498759284 131809691,131810369,2017-06-29 18:06:46,,,Anonymous,lrg immigration.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,,,1498759606 131809691,131810904,2017-06-29 18:10:57,,,Anonymous,hoppe masses.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,,,1498759857 131809691,131811102,2017-06-29 18:12:33,,,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,,,1498759953 131809691,131811389,2017-06-29 18:14:53,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,,,1498760093 131809691,131811427,2017-06-29 18:15:12,,,Anonymous,hoppe expulsion.png,MYXxcYpUYsv/VE/vI3UFRw==,,,1498760112 131809691,131811486,2017-06-29 18:15:39,,,Anonymous,great austrian minds.png,V6MFunytZh+SZ158PI780w==,,,1498760139 131809691,131811637,2017-06-29 18:16:51,,,Anonymous,vn3QqKy.jpg,rDJ7o5ua6WFGeRQsuVyK9Q==,,,1498760211 131809691,131811804,2017-06-29 18:18:04,,,Anonymous,1481060602061.png,fmkDlRsYyT03UiWBu819mw==,,,1498760284 131809691,131811981,2017-06-29 18:19:34,">>131811637 >>131811804 keep bumping for me :^)",,Anonymous,do it for him.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,,,1498760374 131809691,131813164,2017-06-29 18:28:54,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,,,1498760934 131809691,131813883,2017-06-29 18:34:23,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 Does Libertarian Fascism or Fascist Libertarianism comprise and corrupt our values or is it a legitimate tool for achieving power and making society better, more fair, and more free.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498761263 131809691,131814646,2017-06-29 18:40:27,">>131813883 Unless the leader is an incorruptible libertarian and does not stray from the path to Liberty by becoming a power-lusty despot, I see no problem in rallying behind said man to overthrow the state. But I think secession movements might be more successful since they're more decentralized and largely seen as democratically legitimate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498761627 131809691,131815950,2017-06-29 18:49:46,">>131814646 who might be an example of an incorruptible libertarian? what would cause a man to worship liberty over material things like power and money. It seems intractably difficult to identify such a leader.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498762186 131809691,131819542,2017-06-29 19:19:36,">>131815950 Peter Thiel?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498763976 131811724,131811724,2017-06-29 18:17:29,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists serious about ending the state and not just smoking weed, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists, anti-communist militants like ya boy Oscar Perez. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Locke, Smith, the Founding Fathers, Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Thomas Sowell, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - ARYAN NIGNOG HELICOPTER PILOT OSCAR PEREZ BOOGALOO EDITION,Anonymous,perez.jpg,IQQFCf9s1cLISWUumwwxeg==,,,1498760249 131811724,131811813,2017-06-29 18:18:13,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The rightful owners of public property (including borders) are the victims of taxation. Therefore nobody can benefit from that land save for them. Eventually this issue would be solved by full privatisation, but that's still far in the future. Also we don't like brown people. >(((Capitalism))) Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. >What about roads? Since companies need infrastructure to transport their goods to reach people who in turn need infrastructure for their own needs, this system of mutual dependence is the incentive for any faggot with a steamrol-nah I'm just fucking with you. (((Roads))) are the asphalt Jew that limits evaporation from the soil and gives kids autism. We take helicopters everywhere we go. >LOLBERGTARIANS R DEGENERATE Degeneracy is a symptom of r-selected individuals within a K-selected society. Just kick them out, their high time preference and negative externalities caused by their presence and behaviour are a good enough reason for their physical removal. No trap harems for you. >What about usury? Banking was a mistake, so much so that even (((Rothbard))) disapproves of it. End the FED, price war now.",,Anonymous,ancap vs ancom frogs.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,SK,,1498760293 131811724,131811886,2017-06-29 18:18:43,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,ancap reading list.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,SK,,1498760323 131811724,131811927,2017-06-29 18:19:08,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts >youtube.com/user/Morrakiu - youtube.com/channel/UCqAIvs0vAb71x_ZO10HArhA - http://morrakiu.com/ - Morrakiu of TRS and Radical Agenda INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell BANTZ TIER >Jared Howe's faceberg account Fuck Cato. Open borders for Israel.",,Anonymous,hoppe commies covenant.jpg,ckKjaFAUScKcuxT33B/0Hg==,SK,,1498760348 131811724,131812020,2017-06-29 18:19:51,"VIDEOS/PODCASTS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=-Yv9JZiaFUg >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Wife with a Purpose - youtube.com/watch?v=_vvikwuyv_I >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/17/radical-agenda-ep302-mike-enoch/ >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/19/radical-agenda-ep303-articulate-black-guy/ >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/24/radical-agenda-ep306-jared-howe/ >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,lrg concise.png,yGICg7zfb5HHISPDuq+cdg==,SK,,1498760391 131811724,131812108,2017-06-29 18:20:34,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo >Morrakiu - Agreeing with the Liberals for All the Wrong Reasons - youtube.com/watch?v=eASnXIubJEE",,Anonymous,pinochet freedom slavery.png,KlN/cpMAIZuboJKCDSFcLA==,SK,,1498760434 131811724,131812174,2017-06-29 18:21:05,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,nes-hiss-ary.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,SK,,1498760465 131811724,131812272,2017-06-29 18:21:51,">>131811724 Probablily it was fake but i want to believe we gonna have a Pinochet close.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498760511 131811724,131812602,2017-06-29 18:24:19,,,Anonymous,1498337544019.png,kZno3Z+Urbz3ZCVPRb0BaQ==,,,1498760659 131811724,131812694,2017-06-29 18:25:05,"Whats up slovakia >>131812602 ahh and my fashy friend. how's it going?",,Anonymous,Timmy.png,nHueA8GQIin6E2aYpw30kA==,US,,1498760705 131811724,131812856,2017-06-29 18:26:29,,,Anonymous,1498071159275.png,hkilyxdDI6suWDimCn7vZg==,US,,1498760789 131811724,131812978,2017-06-29 18:27:30,,,Anonymous,1498143679290.jpg,xn2ubMm78m/zICst7D8Esg==,NL,,1498760850 131811724,131813242,2017-06-29 18:29:25,">>131812978 >muh 168 billion Timothy did nothing wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498760965 131811724,131813631,2017-06-29 18:32:26,">>131812978 Honestly, half of those people were combatants and the rest were the fault of government mismanagement. Still, I'd join them if it meant commies won't take power.",,Anonymous,allende btfo.jpg,3/2aRCaFCZasALSG/RlAxA==,SK,,1498761146 131811724,131813767,2017-06-29 18:33:24,"Damn it nigga, we made the threads at the same time kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1498761204 131811724,131814144,2017-06-29 18:36:34,">>131813767 Slovakia's thread must reign supreme. Thanks for contributing to glorious /lrg/",,Anonymous,RPV19Q4LN1KlFo8PK732zajI2wuGMz6kfPIsGakF37I.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,US,,1498761394 131811724,131814181,2017-06-29 18:36:48,Thoughts on the American Freedom Party?,,Anonymous,unnamed.png,kvg17R6mMMG1SPyyYerFAg==,BR,,1498761408 131811724,131814217,2017-06-29 18:37:06,">>131813767 o shit its portubro",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498761426 131811724,131814343,2017-06-29 18:38:01,">>131813767 Hi, Portubro. Glad to see you. Are you in the Discord?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498761481 131811724,131814391,2017-06-29 18:38:27,Let's go niggers!,,Anonymous,,,,,1498761507 131811724,131814432,2017-06-29 18:38:51,">>131814181 First impression is great, fill me in?",,Anonymous,rand libertarianism intensifies.png,7bquruTPrH1PEyBgLSiO0Q==,SK,,1498761531 131811724,131814457,2017-06-29 18:39:04,">>131814391 Fuck yeah!",,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,US,,1498761544 131811724,131814832,2017-06-29 18:42:00,">>131814217 >>131814343 Hey guys. How do I join the discord?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498761720 131811724,131815004,2017-06-29 18:43:13,">>131814832 mods are pretty good at filtering the links so you'll have to put it together. discord . gg/ jaBMQz",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498761793 131811724,131815289,2017-06-29 18:45:17,">>131814432 http://theamericanfreedomparty.us/platform/ They're basically a white nationalist,paleoconservative,anti big-government party.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1498761917 131811724,131815481,2017-06-29 18:46:55,">>131815004 thanks senpai.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498762015 131811724,131815914,2017-06-29 18:49:28,I believe having a discord defeats the purpose of an anonymous imageboard...,,Anonymous,,,,,1498762168 131811724,131816035,2017-06-29 18:50:30,">>131815289 they sound pretty badass, Why have i never heard of these guys? >>131815914 yeah, but it makes it more private for cool /lrg/ kids only.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498762230 131811724,131816269,2017-06-29 18:52:15,how about the transition to the anarcho capitalist society i imagine we cant do it on one night what are some steps that our current society should take,,Anonymous,1498338308151.png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,,,1498762335 131811724,131816582,2017-06-29 18:54:43,Minarchists make me sick. Stop appropriating anarchist memes.,,Anonymous,1491632978171.png,AMKh45C1B0npAe9p0MYixw==,US,,1498762483 131811724,131817294,2017-06-29 19:00:34,">>131815289 Nice.",,Anonymous,hopper join or die.png,s0DfvflAbVbQ/f9qsQw/eQ==,SK,,1498762834 131811724,131817654,2017-06-29 19:03:37,">>131817294 better version",,Anonymous,join_or_die.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,GB,,1498763017 131811724,131817682,2017-06-29 19:03:53,">>131816035 >Why have i never heard of these guys? Bcause the (((political elites))) want you to believe in the 'Democrats versus Republicans' false dilemma.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1498763033 131811724,131817691,2017-06-29 19:03:58,">>131816269 cut taxes is the primary policy we can ennact and propagate for, by cutting the wealth off you weaken the state. its the easiest thing we can do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498763038 131811724,131819276,2017-06-29 19:17:27,lemme bump this shit right' quick,,Anonymous,1487200632601.jpg,RS+MRHvQsIjPGJEAyF9LSg==,US,,1498763847 131811724,131821225,2017-06-29 19:34:29,"Bump for physical removal of all leafs, greeks, and potato niggers",,Anonymous,1483678211876.jpg,ejspPipRoNnmMkgJjXJclg==,,,1498764869 131811724,131822086,2017-06-29 19:41:42,"Why would you not want to live in a socialist society if it could be based in a place that could meet both production and distribution needs. No socialist country has been able to actually satisfy these needs because most were weak already in either production or distribution. I see zero downsides",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498765302 131811724,131822981,2017-06-29 19:49:57,">>131822086 Who gets to decide the production and distribution needs?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1498765797 131811724,131824805,2017-06-29 20:05:34,this is nice thread,,Anonymous,,,,,1498766734 131811724,131825000,2017-06-29 20:07:22,">>131822086 Because a socialist society will eventually not be able to meet both production and distribution needs.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1498766842 131811724,131825063,2017-06-29 20:07:52,">>131812978 >300,000,000 cigarette deaths LMAO HE GOT US DIDN'T HE.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498766872 131811724,131825299,2017-06-29 20:10:00,"Best general Can we discuss what to do about the faggot Nazi larpers on /pol/? They keep attacking right-wing figures, Nazis are just leftists in disguise.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498767000 131925935,131925935,2017-06-30 16:46:07,"Brought to you by some Greek guy This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists serious about ending the state and not just smoking weed, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists, anti-communist militants like ya boy Oscar Perez. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Locke, Smith, the Founding Fathers, Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Thomas Sowell, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL,Anonymous,1488453291479.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,,,1498841167 131925935,131926010,2017-06-30 16:46:51,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The rightful owners of public property (including borders) are the victims of taxation. Therefore nobody can benefit from that land save for them. Eventually this issue would be solved by full privatisation, but that's still far in the future. Also we don't like brown people. >(((Capitalism))) Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. >What about roads? Since companies need infrastructure to transport their goods to reach people who in turn need infrastructure for their own needs, this system of mutual dependence is the incentive for any faggot with a steamrol-nah I'm just fucking with you. (((Roads))) are the asphalt Jew that limits evaporation from the soil and gives kids autism. We take helicopters everywhere we go. >LOLBERGTARIANS R DEGENERATE Degeneracy is a symptom of r-selected individuals within a K-selected society. Just kick them out, their high time preference and negative externalities caused by their presence and behaviour are a good enough reason for their physical removal. No trap harems for you. >What about usury? Banking was a mistake, so much so that even (((Rothbard))) disapproves of it. End the FED, price war now.",,Anonymous,1498338308151.png,YyqlSZnhaIPNErzsvAGSjg==,GR,,1498841211 131925935,131926107,2017-06-30 16:47:45,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,1482860796695.jpg,1ojtPioKtbdGDIV7TeqsQA==,,,1498841265 131925935,131926192,2017-06-30 16:48:43,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts >youtube.com/user/Morrakiu - youtube.com/channel/UCqAIvs0vAb71x_ZO10HArhA - http://morrakiu.com/ - Morrakiu of TRS and Radical Agenda INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell BANTZ TIER >Jared Howe's faceberg account Fuck Cato. Open borders for Israel.",,Anonymous,1498774649274.jpg,IQQFCf9s1cLISWUumwwxeg==,,,1498841323 131925935,131926336,2017-06-30 16:50:10,">>131925935 Is there a word for a person who supports fascism to make our country libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498841410 131925935,131926441,2017-06-30 16:51:05,"VIDEOS/PODCASTS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=-Yv9JZiaFUg >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Wife with a Purpose - youtube.com/watch?v=_vvikwuyv_I >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/17/radical-agenda-ep302-mike-enoch/ >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/19/radical-agenda-ep303-articulate-black-guy/ >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/24/radical-agenda-ep306-jared-howe/ >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,The argument for liberty is not an argument against organization.jpg,L0QfAqcCcJAhTqbRYnuj0g==,GR,,1498841465 131925935,131926556,2017-06-30 16:52:03,">>131926336 There is. It's libertarian fascism. That Guy T did a video on it and they discussed it with Cantwell.",,Anonymous,join or die better version.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,SK,,1498841523 131925935,131926595,2017-06-30 16:52:24,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo >Morrakiu - Agreeing with the Liberals for All the Wrong Reasons - youtube.com/watch?v=eASnXIubJEE",,Anonymous,1484756142472.png,kZno3Z+Urbz3ZCVPRb0BaQ==,,,1498841544 131925935,131926732,2017-06-30 16:53:44,">>131926556 Thank you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498841624 131925935,131926735,2017-06-30 16:53:46,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,1497556251680.png,KlN/cpMAIZuboJKCDSFcLA==,,,1498841626 131925935,131926942,2017-06-30 16:55:42,">>131926732 Watch the bottom-most video in the VIDEOS/PODCASTS section in >>131926441",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1498841742 131925935,131927111,2017-06-30 16:57:11,Do libertarians place their ideology or their country/race first? Also wtf happend to radical agenda?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498841831 131925935,131927700,2017-06-30 17:02:19,">>131927111 >he doesn't listen to it on CC.com Watch the links. He's constantly screaming about the jews, no way they wouldn't shoah him constantly on JewTube.",,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,SK,,1498842139 131925935,131927932,2017-06-30 17:04:31,">>131926336 >>131926732 It really depends on what you mean by ""fascism"", since you obviously aren't strictly talking about the socioeconomic system (which isn't libertarian at all on itself). >>131926556 I'm intrigued, watching it rn.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1498842271 131925935,131928025,2017-06-30 17:05:21,"12:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK1vDufwNA8 Oy vey!",,Anonymous,,,,,1498842321 131925935,131928083,2017-06-30 17:05:49,">>131927111 >>131927700 shameless check Also regarding race and country, Rothbard and Mises were race-realists and Hoppe has spoken highly of the white upper-middle class throughout history as the exemplification of human supremacy. Sowell focused a lot on making the blacks overcome their hardships, and Ron Paul has scorned them for being too dependent on the state. Right-wing libertarians do realise that their movement is nearly 100% white. As for country, most libertarians embrace the culture and history of their country.",,Anonymous,hoppeart.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,SK,,1498842349 131925935,131928339,2017-06-30 17:08:17,">>131928025 Brock might just be another one of the DANK Jews in Austro-libertarian circles, fuckin BASED.",,Anonymous,democratic socialism.jpg,SaYdzQa0idJT+6UMJqVp/Q==,SK,,1498842497 131925935,131928684,2017-06-30 17:11:46,">>131928339 Hilariously, he was friends with Bernie Sanders in high school.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498842706 131925935,131931119,2017-06-30 17:34:11,"oi cunts, I've downloaded and compiled the list of books in the famous reading list picture to a torrent. magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books Get it, Enjoy it, and Seed it.",,Anonymous,Reading Guide.jpg,268Ez1fa7r2nZ27vb+Ytmw==,GB,,1498844051 131925935,131931294,2017-06-30 17:36:01,"AUTOMATE THE MEANS OF REMOVAL >be walking down the street >see blue haired beggar with red bandanna across his neck >""excuse me sir, would you like to donate to our neighborhood community pool, we're planning activities for chi-"" >Community >Commune >Communism AAAAAAAAHHHHH >Open the McAmazon app >Press [IMMEDIATE REMOVAL] >3 seconds later a drone the size of a small bicycle appears, thanks to the free market >A small hook at the bottom attaches itself to the Commie's bandanna >flies 200 meters into the sky >releases >splats right in front of me >splats so hard some blood droplets land on my $965,597 Dollar moccasins >tfw dead commie violates your NAD what do? To whom do I retaliate to? The commie is dead... There is no government or establishment to sue to get reparations for my damaged moccasins. >tfw the free market will never work",,Anonymous,FREE RIDES.jpg,wqvhVYBsmATA6KtATe70TA==,US,,1498844161 131925935,131933214,2017-06-30 17:54:55,"Libertarian Telegram group: http://t.me/LibertarianRG Informational Libertarian Telegram Channel http://t.me/LibertarianRight",,Anonymous,IMG_20170430_144437.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1498845295 131925935,131934177,2017-06-30 18:04:23,">>131931119 Thanks for that mate, downloading now",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1498845863 131925935,131934290,2017-06-30 18:05:35,">>131931294 i-i-i-it's beautiful",,Anonymous,772.jpg,tyQTwGTzvTjqBWPE9N7ayg==,,,1498845935 131925935,131935108,2017-06-30 18:13:57,">>131934177 Hope you like it. This is still v1 some books are missing or hard to find, I'll keep looking for the missing parts and hopefully I#ll update you guys soon.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498846437 131925935,131937160,2017-06-30 18:34:13,>>131931294,,Anonymous,1495660420878.jpg,qQAs9V1ipHFb5PHN+7oQNA==,,,1498847653 131925935,131937795,2017-06-30 18:40:49,"How do you guys feel about stirner? Also black flag when?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498848049 131925935,131938382,2017-06-30 18:46:56,">>131931294 You mean you didn't get an underwriter for your killer drone?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498848416 131925935,131939010,2017-06-30 18:53:43,"If no central bank is the answer, how comes no country operates without a central bank and with truly floating exchange rates?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1498848823 131947421,131947421,2017-06-30 20:18:58,"""Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither"" - Benjamin Franklin This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. This includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and right-wing reactionary-ism against the left (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, most of them have already been answered many times, so it is recommended you get to grip with the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to argue with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: discord gg jCVRCR3 INTRODUCTION/REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >(Further Reading - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg for a reference) THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,weapons_are_the_means_to_liberty.png,eI5O6TirBEeoRBs5ceYQNQ==,GB,,1498853938 131947421,131947545,2017-06-30 20:20:20,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FOx5TDlBw,,Anonymous,1-56.jpg,IvruVj6py/C4DF+Er0YV/w==,,,1498854020 131947421,131947564,2017-06-30 20:20:37,"Free helicopter rides for all leafs, Greeks, and Germans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498854037 131947421,131947677,2017-06-30 20:21:33,">>131947564 why greeks and germans?",,Anonymous,C3GRTazVYAAMl1p.jpg,Hj1ndb3lAIx6rGN5U7PJ5g==,,,1498854093 131947421,131947777,2017-06-30 20:22:35,">>131947677 I don't get this line of memeing. The best form of counter-revolution isn't top-down by the state, it's bottom-up by privatised right wing death squads",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498854155 131947421,131947856,2017-06-30 20:23:26,">>131947421 Start to restore the system by repealing 17th amendment. This should be the fucking repeal message Trumpster should be tweeting to the top of his lungs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498854206 131947421,131947897,2017-06-30 20:23:46,">>131947677 Germans because of cultural Marxism and the EU. Greeks because they're the welfare niggers of Europe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498854226 131947421,131948454,2017-06-30 20:28:54,">>131947677 >>131947777 bumparoo",,Anonymous,1459308726144.jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1498854534 131947421,131948849,2017-06-30 20:32:45,">>131947897 so (((germans))) and not germans tho? or all of em?",,Anonymous,,,,,1498854765 131947421,131948960,2017-06-30 20:33:52,">>131947856 >not 16th, 17th, and 22nd git gud scrub",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498854832 131947421,131949144,2017-06-30 20:35:48,">>131948849 All of them. Just to be safe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498854948 131947421,131949250,2017-06-30 20:37:16,">>131948960 >not 13th",,Anonymous,,,,,1498855036 131947421,131949639,2017-06-30 20:41:14,">>131949250 I'd be more concerned with the civil rights act of 1964 than the 13th amendment",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498855274 131947421,131949704,2017-06-30 20:41:48,">>131948960 Empower the individual state assemblies as they were meant to function to limit the authority of the federal gov't by having the ability to appoint and recall senators as they inevitably descend to the status of party or corporate shill. Since they are not elected by campaign, they don't need campaign fundraising, so in a way makes them more pure. Proper process for liberty, elect your state representatives, state assembly appoints senator, senator represents the ideals and values and interests of the state they represent, not the US gov't authoritarianism",,Anonymous,joe_trump_willy_wonka.jpg,DLCdiV5PjkvYiWJiPPyUGw==,US,,1498855308 131947421,131949834,2017-06-30 20:43:11,">>131947421 >INTRODUCTION/REQUIRED READING >REQUIRED WTF IS THIS AM I UNDER ARREST AM I FREE TO GO AM I FREE TO GO AM I FREE TO GO",,Anonymous,,,,,1498855391 131947421,131951050,2017-06-30 20:55:27,"oi cunts, I've downloaded and compiled the list of books in the famous reading list picture to a torrent. magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books Get it, Enjoy it, and Seed it.",,Anonymous,Reading Guide.jpg,268Ez1fa7r2nZ27vb+Ytmw==,GB,,1498856127 131947421,131951891,2017-06-30 21:03:46,">>131949834 No but you get a free helicopter ride if you don't read",,Anonymous,,,,,1498856626 131947421,131952035,2017-06-30 21:05:18,">>131947421 bump",,semper fi,,,,,1498856718 131947421,131952636,2017-06-30 21:11:00,">muh roads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congestion_pricing >muh schools http://tomwoods.com/d/educbook.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498857060 131947421,131953417,2017-06-30 21:18:49,">JIDF GENERAL ftfy",,Anonymous,lolbertarians.jpg,fgYAlB+yxXCQCEneqTsheg==,,,1498857529 132040432,132040432,2017-07-01 16:36:58,"Time for another /lrg/ boys. Brought to you by Portubro. This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. This includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and right-wing reactionary-ism against the left (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, most of them have already been answered many times, so it is recommended you get to grip with the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to argue with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: discord gg jCVRCR3 INTRODUCTION/REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >(Further Reading - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg for a reference) THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: Drop it like it's Hoppe Edition,Anonymous,lrg.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,PT,,1498927018 132040432,132040769,2017-07-01 16:40:32,Fresh meme off the presses to spam in lite-libertarian threads,,Anonymous,lrg vs lp.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,PT,,1498927232 132040432,132040994,2017-07-01 16:43:07,,,Anonymous,Reading Guide.jpg,268Ez1fa7r2nZ27vb+Ytmw==,GR,,1498927387 132040432,132041274,2017-07-01 16:46:05,">>132040769 Is anyone even debating whether gary johnson is a libertarian at this point? the uppity cunt openly supported tpp pre-elections iirc",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1498927565 132040432,132041305,2017-07-01 16:46:25,">>132040994 Thank you Greekbro.",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1498927585 132040432,132041554,2017-07-01 16:49:00,">>132041274 Apparently they are because he not only got the LP nomination twice, but he also got 5 or so million votes in the general election. Despite Austin Petersen being a much better candidate and having called him out on that stupid cake position of his.",,Anonymous,ancaps win in the end.png,tHmwPAQrei2tPfAJqeOEQw==,PT,,1498927740 132040432,132042204,2017-07-01 16:56:10,,,Anonymous,great austrian minds.png,V6MFunytZh+SZ158PI780w==,PT,,1498928170 132040432,132042237,2017-07-01 16:56:29,,,Anonymous,hoppe multi-ethinc society.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1498928189 132040432,132042276,2017-07-01 16:56:47,,,Anonymous,hoppe expulsion.png,MYXxcYpUYsv/VE/vI3UFRw==,PT,,1498928207 132040432,132042312,2017-07-01 16:57:07,,,Anonymous,hoppe why the libertarian movement failed.png,krBqHYazarV1O8NrSwgFBw==,PT,,1498928227 132040432,132042339,2017-07-01 16:57:26,,,Anonymous,right wing populism.png,tfw9niZW8OmDj/Rntd7mPg==,PT,,1498928246 132040432,132042385,2017-07-01 16:57:52,,,Anonymous,moldbug.jpg,yoPFLATPMy9Q6IpQnyqN2w==,PT,,1498928272 132040432,132042420,2017-07-01 16:58:19,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,PT,,1498928299 132040432,132042918,2017-07-01 17:04:09,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,PT,,1498928649 132040432,132042956,2017-07-01 17:04:30,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1498928670 132040432,132042968,2017-07-01 17:04:39,">>132041554 I see, I'm not following the american LP closely but from what I've seen they have nothing to do with liberty after all. Ron Paul must have had his reasons to run for the republican nomination and not for them after all. >>132042204 >>132042237 >>132042276 >>132042312 >>132042339 good reading material, nicely done",,Anonymous,The argument for liberty is not an argument against organization.jpg,L0QfAqcCcJAhTqbRYnuj0g==,GR,,1498928679 132040432,132042987,2017-07-01 17:04:50,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 4.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,PT,,1498928690 132040432,132043056,2017-07-01 17:05:32,It's impossible to have capitalism and anarchy capitalism needs the state,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498928732 132040432,132043127,2017-07-01 17:06:17,">>132042968 Thanks, and yes Ron Paul is probably pissed. Although he switched parties from Republican to Libertarian again, we must remember he has to keep his real power level low. And by that I mean 90s-Lew-Rockwell-reports-tier power level.",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1498928777 132040432,132043202,2017-07-01 17:07:05,">>132043056 Logically and praxeologically false.",,Anonymous,oklahoma_00000.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,PT,,1498928825 132040432,132043320,2017-07-01 17:08:09,">>132043202 >logically false False >praxeologically false it's never happened I wonder why...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498928889 132040432,132043358,2017-07-01 17:08:39,"The over of a territory or covenant doesn't have to adopt pure liberal market policies in Hoppe's view right? Like let's say we form a joint stock sovereign corporation and make a private nation. Since it's private the sovereign corp could have taxes, welfare built into its charter, etc. IMO a lot of Hoppe's thought just devolves into ""we should be nationalists but admit we're exclusive and removing kebab""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498928919 132040432,132043417,2017-07-01 17:09:08,">>132043056 >capitalism needs the state no it doesn't >It's impossible to have capitalism and anarchy actually it's impossible to have collectivism and anarchy. A free market and Laissez-faire capitalism are actually the prerequisites to have any decent form of anarchy or non-statism in general.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1498928948 132040432,132043423,2017-07-01 17:09:14,">>132043320 Then present your argument as to why capitalism needs a state please.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498928954 132040432,132043610,2017-07-01 17:11:20,">>132043358 Yes although whether or not those would be successful remains to be seen. Just say ""Can I be a nazi in my own covenant?"" The answer is yes: whether or not it would be a good place to live and an economically and socially viable place to live would be the fun in seeing what models work and what dont.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498929080 132040432,132043740,2017-07-01 17:12:34,">>132043417 >actually it's impossible to have collectivism and anarchy. A free market and Laissez-faire capitalism are actually the prerequisites to have any decent form of anarchy or non-statism in general. WRONG! >>132043423 What's stopping people with enough money hiring militias and then conquering land ands businesses to form a state? How will you circulate money? How will your businesses stay up while the rate of profit decreases? Why will most big business men want it when they can just buy votes from our current democracy? How do you prevent private courts from being bought out?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498929154 132040432,132043860,2017-07-01 17:14:05,">>132043610 That's basically what I'm saying. Since there is no ""fair"" way to decide how to break up most states, and any attempt to do so would require terrible violence, many of us should just accept the states that we live in and begin to regard them as commonwealths. I understand why Hoppe thinks having many small states competing with each other would reduce leftism, but in practice that seems very far away from any realistic scenario. Better to have economies of scale with a country or trade zone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498929245 132040432,132043935,2017-07-01 17:15:05,">>132043860 >reduce leftism Yes almost like people are aligning with ideologies in their self interest hmmm not sure you can reduce that",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498929305 132040432,132044002,2017-07-01 17:15:51,First for Gary Johnson,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498929351 132040432,132044018,2017-07-01 17:16:04,">>132043740 Also having a commons is pretty important for many market functions. Housing regulations are a good example. NIMBYs in big American city make it harder to build new buildings, and it's costing unbelievable amounts of money in economic growth because cities can't grow the way they would under unregulated conditions. It's also driving up the cost of housing to absurd levels. Having a commons to prevent such behavior seems obviously good to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498929364 132040432,132044279,2017-07-01 17:18:55,">>132043740 What's stopping people with enough money hiring militias and then conquering land ands businesses to form a state? People who pay companies to protect them from scumbags who wish to take their property away. How will you circulate money? Like we used to before central banks existed? We're heading into incorruptible and inflation-less cryptos anyway. How will your businesses stay up while the rate of profit decreases? Why would the rate of profit decrease? Why will most big business men want it when they can just buy votes from our current democracy? Big businessmen who get funds from the government and take advantage of the regulatory power it endows to them are just as part of the state apparatus as the Clinton family. They will need to be taught a lesson, abd will need to step up their game because of the new competition. How do you prevent private courts from being bought out? That doesn't happen in state courts right? Anyways, competition from other private courts.",,Anonymous,opfsdlvh1gpy.png,ndjkzExmlGUc65PyItGwRw==,PT,,1498929535 132040432,132044574,2017-07-01 17:22:13,">>132044279 >People who pay companies to protect them from scumbags who wish to take their property away. This seems insane to me desu, and I'm a very big market guy. It would lead to a nightmare world of all against all in which economies of scale and cooperation collapse in the face of violent conflict. This stuff is the reason it's hard to get normies to accept more radical applications of capitalism, no one thinks having Pinkertons gun down workers who don't want to work for their boss anymore sounds good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498929733 132040432,132044916,2017-07-01 17:25:33,">>132044574 Have you read The Private Production of Defense? It's not as scary as it may sound.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498929933 132040432,132045141,2017-07-01 17:27:44,">>132044916 Yes, yes it really is. You guys are idealists, but unfortunately that stuff doesn't work in the real world. It will never happen though, normal people would never accept such a world. At best you would have ""private"" police in the sense that sovereign corporations operating as de facto nation states would have police. So police.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498930064 132040432,132045447,2017-07-01 17:30:58,">>132045141 And yet the state, which boils down to ""surrender all your other means of defense and loyalty to other states and we'll protect you after we've extorted you for money"" works.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498930258 132040432,132045675,2017-07-01 17:33:19,">>132045447 Modern states do some things well, the primary one being forming a monopoly on the legitimate use of force. That is actually what creates high trust societies and allows for cooperation on a large scale. Places with lots of non-state violence are run by organizations like the mob, and regardless of how fancy the logos are they are still ultimately gangsters. The state is better than them even if libertarians like Hoppe won't admit it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498930399 132040432,132046496,2017-07-01 17:42:20,">>132045675 Legitimate use of force. Yeah, right.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1498930940 132040432,132047634,2017-07-01 17:54:17,"Reminder that ""Objectivism"" deserves a mention in the OP as it encapsulates Nationalism, Capitalism, Meritocracy, Individualism, and Libertarianism all rolled into one. Libertarianism is only useful as a technical qualifier and is basically incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk Objectivism deserves a mention in the OP. Posting a related video. Good old John Galt's 3 hour long speech, from an audiobook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5nhYo5nx4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498931657 132040432,132049693,2017-07-01 18:16:22,">>132040994 Im the guy in question. I'd be more than happy if this was included in the pastebin",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498932982 132040432,132049924,2017-07-01 18:18:52,">>132046496 The state decides what constitute legitimate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498933132 132040432,132050309,2017-07-01 18:22:55,">>132049924 What right do they have to do so? >>132049693 I'll add it, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498933375 132040432,132050539,2017-07-01 18:25:18,">>132049924 So if the state decides you should give your house to refugees and hand out papers telling niggers how to rape your daughter you'd be okay with it, it would be legitimate. Fuck you.",,Anonymous,physically removed.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,PT,,1498933518 132040432,132052032,2017-07-01 18:42:18,">>132049924 >being this much of a statist put your commie flag on mate",,Anonymous,1497556251680.png,KlN/cpMAIZuboJKCDSFcLA==,GR,,1498934538 132040432,132052114,2017-07-01 18:43:16,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1498934596 132040432,132052137,2017-07-01 18:43:35,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1498934615 132040432,132052166,2017-07-01 18:43:55,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,PT,,1498934635 132040432,132052198,2017-07-01 18:44:15,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,PT,,1498934655 132040432,132052361,2017-07-01 18:45:49,"(((cato))) These guys will get the helicopter first.",,Anonymous,cato.png,xJkM91ZNuCM5Klz/oD221Q==,MT,,1498934749 132040432,132052970,2017-07-01 18:51:55,">>132052361 I fucking hate the Cato Institute. Such garbage I see from them. In fact, i think all ""libertarian"" think-tanks/groups are pozzed but for PFS and the Mises Institute and its branches. C4SS, Cato, LP, etc. - they all cater to socialists. Also, Maltabro what do you think of my OC in the first post?",,Anonymous,hoppewave 3.png,FlwzgsdnBAUB3ACvAepaUA==,PT,,1498935115 132040432,132053051,2017-07-01 18:52:45,">>132052361 i feel like we've had a lot of people who will get it 'first'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498935165 132040432,132053267,2017-07-01 18:54:54,">>132052361 >we libertarians, we gud goys goddammit",,Anonymous,1482860796695.jpg,1ojtPioKtbdGDIV7TeqsQA==,GR,,1498935294 132040432,132053403,2017-07-01 18:56:24,">>132040994 can't seem to get any peers w/ deluge",,Anonymous,,,,,1498935384 132040432,132053584,2017-07-01 18:58:29,"Right-wing libertarian is euphemism for fake libertarian. National borders are enforced with government threats of violence, period. If you want to enforce national borders, you are ipso facto not a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498935509 132040432,132053747,2017-07-01 19:00:10,>>132053584,,Anonymous,medieval bait.png,+inndGIwBSblTMLOJMpKVQ==,PT,,1498935610 132040432,132053863,2017-07-01 19:01:16,">>132052137 >even if they commit no criminal offense Hoppe is not a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498935676 132040432,132053932,2017-07-01 19:01:52,">>132053403 I've had it open on deluge since I reposted the magnet, 0 seeds 0 peers most of the time >>132049693 britainbro are you seeding? Any idea what's up with the torrent?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1498935712 132040432,132054164,2017-07-01 19:04:27,">>132053863 'Physical removal' in actuality never called for the use of force, but rather the collective denial of access to private property, which is in accordance with non-aggression.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498935867 132040432,132054279,2017-07-01 19:05:44,">>132052970 Seems to contain all our main talking points, 10/10 portubro",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498935944 132040432,132054585,2017-07-01 19:08:58,">>132053863 >>132053584 You don't understand libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498936138 132040432,132054784,2017-07-01 19:10:55,">>132053863 it's getting bigger",,Anonymous,is this bait.jpg,yoPaN17Iv/W5D0y8I+xH4g==,PT,,1498936255 132040432,132054932,2017-07-01 19:12:23,">>132054164 This is retarded. All of society isn't gonna exclude ""ill-behaved"" people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498936343 132040432,132055062,2017-07-01 19:13:29,">>132054585 Hoppeanism isn't libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498936409 132040432,132055216,2017-07-01 19:14:58,">>132054932 You're right. First comes a ""stop."" Followed by a ""I told you to stop doing that"" in case of non-compliance. Which is then followed by a ""stop it, goddamn it!"" - this gives the perp two options: conform to the covenant community lifestyle or be expelled.",,Anonymous,1490438813370.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,PT,,1498936498 132040432,132055219,2017-07-01 19:15:01,">>132055062 >Hoppeanism isn't libertarianism. This. Hoppefaggots are just trying to wrap their bigotry up in libertarian garb. They even take Hoppe completely out of context in order to do so.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498936501 132040432,132055560,2017-07-01 19:18:41,">>132055219 nice shilling AnCom. Come out, come out, show your true colors! No one on 4chan would un-ironically use the word ""bigotry"". We all knows that's leftist new-speak.",,Anonymous,mcnuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,PT,,1498936721 132040432,132055876,2017-07-01 19:22:08,">>132055062 It is. It's just not AnCap (the autist dreamland) but Minarchism (actually viable and seen in some form or another in human history)",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498936928 132040432,132056047,2017-07-01 19:23:59,">>132055216 You people just want to live in a sterile, conformist bubble. Most people, thank god, aren't like you. People generally don't mind associating with other races or people with different religions, political beliefs and lifestyles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498937039 132040432,132056313,2017-07-01 19:26:59,">>132055062 Nah, you're just blinded by statism, failing to engage in abstract thinking, your arguments clearly reflect so. >National borders are enforced with government threats of violence You're trying to argue against a hypothetical private property society by telling us that national borders are coercion. There's no national borders in what we're seeking, but there's borders, that's for fucking sure. >>132054932 And here you're simply thinking that cities and society will remain like if there was a state. That somehow people will not seek for rules, for communities that engage on private restrictions, that contracts are not going to be the main system for social interaction, and you're wrong.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498937219 132040432,132056413,2017-07-01 19:27:53,">>132053584 >>132053863 >>132056047 >trying this hard you messed up mate, you almost had me with your first post, that hoppe statement was unnecessary and you ended up playing yourself",,Anonymous,1440433781111.png,MPHiDr+4siXWCOSwc0sFag==,GR,,1498937273 132040432,132056720,2017-07-01 19:31:22,">>132056047 >People generally don't mind associating with other races or people with different religions, political beliefs and lifestyles That's what they say if you ask them, no doubt. Tell them they have to purchase property in the ghetto or to live in Mexico though. See how they vote with their wallets...",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498937482 132040432,132056845,2017-07-01 19:32:52,">>132053584 Bears enforce the borders of their caves with deadly force. Does that make them governments?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1498937572 132040432,132057148,2017-07-01 19:36:16,">>132055876 What Hoppe describes is not minarchy but anarcho capitalism. There's no state whatsoever. Voluntary associations guided by contractually enforced rules are totally compatible with anarcho capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498937776 132040432,132057357,2017-07-01 19:38:36,">>132054164 'All of society' is in fact all of a covenant who privately agree they want to live in a (likely smaller) town or district where they set certain social standards. >>132056047 True, but those people are partaking in economically inefficient procedures anyway. Homogeneous societies are advantaged.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498937916 132040432,132057499,2017-07-01 19:40:01,">>132056720 Apparently, you've never heard of ""gentrification"". And millions of Americans live in Mexico, dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498938001 132040432,132057647,2017-07-01 19:41:42,">>132057357 There would be no pluralistic cities in a stateless libertarian society? You're delusional.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498938102 132040432,132057688,2017-07-01 19:42:07,">>132057148 Doesn't he promote a monarchic state to enforce the rules?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1498938127 132040432,132057896,2017-07-01 19:44:41,">>132057647 Not. An. Argument. Also not what I said. It's possible there would be pluralistic cities, that is true, but there is a large and viable possibility to move to a smaller community, especially considering how the state encourages movement of people to one central city, and libertarianism promotes the opposite. >>132057688 Not at all.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498938281 132040432,132058438,2017-07-01 19:50:45,">>132057499 Gentrification is what happens when the rich neighbors pay for poor neighborhood infrastructures and services so they make them somewhat habitable with time and enough tax money thrown at them. It's not a natural market phenomenon. If rich people's money stayed in rich people's communities, the only gentrification you'd see would be through mass eviction of undesirables. >And millions of Americans live in Mexico Mostly in gated communities or rich areas far away from the people they vote to import. To put it simply, given a private property society, would it be possible to have mostly white private cities? Yes. Would these cities be more prosperous than multicultural cities? Will they have more economic opportunities? Most likely. Will they have to pay for other private cities to have security? Nope. So where do you think the ""dude multiculturalism is so lit"" white guy will want to live if he gets a hold of some money? In a private city of multicultural poor or a private city of nuclear white rich? >>132057688 Hoppe uses monarchy to argue against democracy, claiming that monarchy would be superior, but he's not a monarchist himself.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498938645 132040432,132058537,2017-07-01 19:52:02,">>132057896 > state encourages movement of people to one central city, and libertarianism promotes the opposite. Not really. Government subsidizes sprawls and rural communities because it builds and maintains roads everywhere and provides postal services to the most expensive areas. In a libertarian society, we would probably live in tighter spaces.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498938722 132040432,132058770,2017-07-01 19:54:41,">>132058537 A priori false. You should read 'democracy the god that failed', we call it required reading for a while - it explains this.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498938881 132040432,132059956,2017-07-01 20:09:08,,,Anonymous,socialism_if_he_likes_friedman.png,xz54/J1XwIE/ecUY6bUL3A==,GB,,1498939748 132040432,132060103,2017-07-01 20:10:31,">>132059956 >the fascist ball looks evil mmmh",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1498939831 132040432,132060257,2017-07-01 20:12:20,">>132058537 That's extremely narrow-minded and also wrong. There's much more to society than (((roads))) and postal services. Big cities didn't even exist historically until the centralization of power became necessary for the government to maintain and exert its power to a big amount of people. Particularly here in Greece, the socialist government had to practically bribe the people back in the '60s and '70s to make them move to the bigger cities, in order to then set its plans for a social state in motion. We had to wait for tens of years and a military junta a la Pinochet (although much shittier) to get electricity and roads to the rural areas of the country, and if it was up to the socialists it would have never happened at all.",,Anonymous,1456642063640.jpg,a4PBiO6dA3lGuhqtcANd3w==,GR,,1498939940 132040432,132060592,2017-07-01 20:16:17,">>132043056 wat",,Anonymous,1490959968212.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,,,1498940177 132040432,132060703,2017-07-01 20:17:27,">>132059956 Why is David Friedman bad? I bought his book Machinery of Freedom. Seems pretty ancap to me.",,Anonymous,1494806363152.jpg,znRSlNCLZWjAMoq7dcaK7w==,US,,1498940247 132040432,132060734,2017-07-01 20:17:47,"In anarcho capitalism, the efficient thing to do as an individual, in lieu of a state, is to purchase property there where your rights are somewhat guaranteed so you can focus on your own area of expertise. Yes, the market might have solutions for everything the state offers, but let's get practical, nobody wants the responsibility of having to manage hundreds of insurances personally. This would undoubtedly generate a massive demand for private cities, gated communities and covenants, all of them would have specific rules and laws which would be enforced via contract, you would acquire access to these properties, but you would still voluntarily subject yourself to rules, because you want to know your neighbor is also subjected to those same rules. Self interest. These private cities would need to answer only to their inhabitants and nobody else. They would have no obligation to provide services outside of their borders, so rich people would pay for police to patrol their houses, not to patrol the slums in search for another victimless crime. This means richer cities will be far more secure than they're today, and poor cities would be far less secure. This by itself is a detriment for business to import immigrants. Immigration is highly subsidized by the fact that immigrants will be able to purchase cheap property yet receive services they could never afford unless paid optimally. Immigrants would be much better off in their countries of origin in average, enjoying the taxes from the few rich people their countries have, than in ""outlawish"" areas of an anarcho capitalist country. 1/2 ->",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498940267 132040432,132060765,2017-07-01 20:18:05,"Another aspect of private cities would be that it opens the possibility of efficient discrimination in order to maintain property value. Would not be out of the picture to have cities that only allowed 100+ IQ individuals to purchase property within, for example. This kind of segregation would lead to prosperous models being emulated throughout the country. If a city is doing good and the demand for their properties can't be covered by the supply quick enough, other city businesses will quickly catch up and provide similar conditions. Libertarianism cannot be compatible with democracy and therefore libertarians would be wise to purchase property there where democracy is strictly forbidden. People who think people of color incur in high externalities will be wise to purchase property in cities where whites are the only ones allowed, and the success or failure of this model would lead to replication in other places or lead as example of failure. This text is all from a big pamphlet I'm working on about private cities. Need to polish the ideas and structure but these would be some of the main talking points.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498940285 132040432,132060834,2017-07-01 20:18:54,">>132060703 agreed, David is much better than his father.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498940334 132040432,132060872,2017-07-01 20:19:28,"If you were to read just one Hoppe book, which should I get? Which is the most definitive encapsulation of his philosophy?",,Anonymous,1497662689563.jpg,HlBaStKn9wiUKxzF/Mirpg==,,,1498940368 132040432,132061072,2017-07-01 20:21:45,">>132060872 Democracy, the god that failed.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498940505 132040432,132061104,2017-07-01 20:22:14,">>132060872 >a liberal gassing hitler lmao ancaps",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1498940534 132040432,132061126,2017-07-01 20:22:24,">>132060103 nah, he looks more angry than evil have you met an openly fascist person that wasn't angry? especially with all that degeneracy going around? I don't blame em tbqh >>132060872 I'd say >>132058770, but wait for others to chime in too",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1498940544 132040432,132061580,2017-07-01 20:27:37,">>132060703 Hoppeans or ""paleo-libertarians"" hate him because they're disagreeable pricks and they feel threatened by real libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498940857 132040432,132061817,2017-07-01 20:29:56,">>132061126 >>132061072 thanks bros",,Anonymous,1497383676456.png,fkOiVW3aR6GavGK/h/NPUQ==,,,1498940996 132040432,132061912,2017-07-01 20:31:04,">>132061580 >real libertarians there you go faggot",,Anonymous,kys.png,uH7aAUSlcldrh9yi14nGiA==,GR,,1498941064 132040432,132061942,2017-07-01 20:31:20,">>132060703 >>132061580 >>132060834 Meh, he's consequentialist instead of deontological which isn't my favourite, but I still like the guy. I could change it to milton friedman.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498941080 132040432,132061989,2017-07-01 20:31:58,">>132060872 >>132061126 Even if you read another Hoppe book first, D:tGtF should definitely be on your list.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1498941118 132040432,132062532,2017-07-01 20:37:17,">>132061817 Cool red herring, bro. There is nothing about agorism that prevents private borders either. Our argument against borders is strictly about government borders as such. No left-libertarian would say that there would be open borders in every case. It's just we're not so xenophobic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498941437 132040432,132062660,2017-07-01 20:38:28,">>132061817 What makes you any different from university social justice warriors who want to shut down the free exchange of ideas on campuses?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498941508 132040432,132062803,2017-07-01 20:39:43,">>132055560 >nice shilling AnCom. Come out, come out, show your true colors! >No one on 4chan would un-ironically use the word ""bigotry"". We all knows that's leftist new-speak. Fuck you, I'm more Rothbardian than you could ever dream of being.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498941583 132040432,132062902,2017-07-01 20:40:39,">>132062532 >left-libertarian you mean closeted commie? collectivists GET OUT",,Anonymous,1480293077520.jpg,ttmKvxCX/8xWwR6OEMfJOA==,GR,,1498941639 132040432,132063009,2017-07-01 20:41:48,">>132062902 >you mean closeted commie? >collectivists GET OUT Nigger, I'm a Left-Rothbardian: you know, when he was good. DIAF.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498941708 132040432,132063044,2017-07-01 20:42:10,">>132062532 Our argument in favor of borders is strictly about private borders as such. No right-libertarian would say that there would be closed borders in every case. It's just we know for a fact that those that engage in open borders will be self destructing. >>132062660 Private campuses should shut down the free exchange of ideas if they so wished.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498941730 132040432,132063115,2017-07-01 20:42:56,">>132063044 >It's just we know for a fact that those that engage in open borders will be self destructing. So, the meme is a red herring, thank you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1498941776 132040432,132063450,2017-07-01 20:46:38,">>132063115 >Private city A engages in open borders/democracy/communist enabling, gets destroyed from within >Private city B forbids communism and has locked gates and walls, prosperous. Some memes tend to be red herrings, but I would not say this one is.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1498941998 132040432,132063903,2017-07-01 20:51:09,"no one else has our work ethic, our personal responsibility, our heroic mentality your average lolbert wants to build a one man island, a underwater city, a floating fortress, an army of robots, a colony on mars everyone else wants to mask their laziness with oppression (fucking commies) or secret jews (dont let ur guard down tho, jewery is real) all they want to do is say 'you didnt build this, social effort built this, now gimme gimme gimme gimme', all they want to do is be leeches and parasites, none of them can generate wealth or power or anything",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1498942269 132040432,132064172,2017-07-01 20:53:43,">>132063009 >I'm a Left-Rothbardian that's about as retarded as a person can get just call yourself a mutualist or whatever the fuck, drop the pompous terms",,Anonymous,meh.png,wCihapJAiDqgw6BO71Hipg==,GR,,1498942423 132040432,132064798,2017-07-01 20:59:47,">>132055219 You can't be a rational person without hating the average shit skin.",,Anonymous,1488737682247.png,WUo3jGljO9v3+FLjWPpI+g==,,,1498942787 132040432,132064929,2017-07-01 21:01:00,>>132047634My nigger. Ayn Rand is the /final/ redpill.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1498942860 132040432,132065222,2017-07-01 21:03:44,">>132064798 If you hate ""shit skins"" then you should hate white people too, since white people have been just as violent, if not more violent, than non-white people throughout history.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498943024 132040432,132065533,2017-07-01 21:06:38,">>132065222 >white people have been just as violent, if not more violent, than non-white people throughout history. False, we're just more effective at committing violence, white people are the most empathetic race on the planet.",,Anonymous,cromwell.jpg,r2HZkaCmIP9AbdtDkt506Q==,,,1498943198 132040432,132065708,2017-07-01 21:08:28,"Reminder that LfCap>AnCap https://objectivismindepth.com/2013/12/19/an-objectivist-refutation-of-anarcho-capitalism-market-anarchy/",,Anonymous,1497141679894.png,GwLsV8x1jBvWsD4RCHf9Cw==,US,,1498943308 132040432,132066170,2017-07-01 21:12:40,">>132065222 jokes on you, nobody talked about violence. Of course it's only natural to think of violence when you think about the brown races. Then again, that's what we are saying pretty much, you're the one disagreeing.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1498943560 132040432,132066327,2017-07-01 21:14:24,">>132066170 When i think of white people, i think of violence.",,Anonymous,dresden.jpg,RExxEC2HpqekYjXbeSUjjw==,US,,1498943664 132040432,132066410,2017-07-01 21:15:11,>>132066170,,Anonymous,hiroshima.jpg,/dGlXWYQ1/KxwcTvuCqRLA==,US,,1498943711 132040432,132066800,2017-07-01 21:19:26,">>132066327 >>132066410 that's called cherrypicking, and it's NOT a valid form of argument",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1498943966 132040432,132067295,2017-07-01 21:24:15,">>132066327 >>132066410 >>132065533 >>132065222 The ADRA2b deletion variant appears in varying degrees across different ethnicities. Although roughly 50 per cent of the Caucasian population studied by these researchers in Canada carry the genetic variation, it has been found to be prevalent in other ethnicities. For example, one study found that just 10 per cent of Rwandans carried the ADRA2b gene variant. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150507135919.htm",,Anonymous,1450542265180.jpg,9X7g7ASUuhjOs/Rhtm547w==,,,1498944255 132040432,132069086,2017-07-01 21:44:54,">>132053747 Portubro I didn't know you went onto /tg/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1498945494 132388515,132388515,2017-07-04 16:49:10,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. This includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and right-wing reactionary-ism against the left (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, most of them have already been answered many times, so it is recommended you get to grip with the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to argue with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: discord gg jCVRCR3 INTRODUCTION/REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >(Further Reading - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg for a reference) THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: 4TH OF JULY EDITION,Anonymous,you talkin to me.jpg,7yA64bpgQO0ggoeeKFyU8g==,,,1499186950 132388515,132389045,2017-07-04 16:54:13,"“Taxation is theft, purely and simply even though it is theft on a grand and colossal scale which no acknowledged criminals could hope to match. It is a compulsory seizure of the property of the State’s inhabitants, or subjects.” “Libertarianism holds that the only proper role of violence is to defend person and property against violence, that any use of violence that goes beyond such just defense is itself aggressive, unjust, and criminal” “Scratch an egalitarian, and you will inevitably find a statist.” “It is in war that the State really comes into its own: swelling in power, in number, in pride, in absolute dominion over the economy and the society.” “Since production must always precede predation, the free market is anterior to the State. The State has never been created by a “social contract”; it has always been born in conquest and exploitation.” “Whenever someone starts talking about 'fair competition' or indeed, about 'fairness' in general, it is time to keep a sharp eye on your wallet, for it is about to be picked.” https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/murray-n-rothbard/against-womens-lib/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/02/murray-n-rothbard/dangerous-economic-myths/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/02/murray-n-rothbard/program-right-wing-populism/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/08/murray-n-rothbard/assassination-revisionism-2/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/murray-n-rothbard/hillary-witch/",,Anonymous,Murray_Rothbard.jpg,72BIr0JA19puFmywGGgM4g==,,,1499187253 132388515,132389603,2017-07-04 16:59:40,"“Democracy has nothing to do with freedom. Democracy is a soft variant of communism, and rarely in the history of ideas has it been taken for anything else.” “There can be no socialism without a state, and as long as there is a state there is socialism. The state, then, is the very institution that puts socialism into action; and as socialism rests on aggressive violence directed against innocent victims, aggressive violence is the nature of any state.” “Egalitarian and relativistic sentiments find steady support among ever new generations of adolescents. Owing to their still incomplete mental development, juveniles, especially of the male variety, are always susceptible to both ideas.” “Conflict is not unavoidable. However, it is nonsensical to consider the institution of a state as a solution to the problem of possible conflict, because it is precisely the institution of a state which first makes conflict unavoidable and permanent.” “With a [democratic] government anyone in principle can become a member of the ruling class or even the supreme power. The distinction between the rulers and the ruled as well as the class consciousness of the ruled become blurred. The illusion even arises that the distinction no longer exists: that with a public government no one is ruled by anyone, but everyone instead rules himself. Accordingly, public resistance against government power is systematically weakened."" https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/06/hans-hermann-hoppe/4-step-health-care-solution/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/04/hans-hermann-hoppe/world-government-vs-freedom-civilization/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/04/hans-hermann-hoppe/state-run-megalomaniacs/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/mises-not-hayek/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/hans-hermann-hoppe/free-immigration/ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/are-you-a-cultural-neanderthal/",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann-Hoppe.jpg,9oYfzoaM1h0laAcSL4AKwQ==,,,1499187580 132388515,132389618,2017-07-04 16:59:48,First for removing P*leo plebs,,Anonymous,,,,,1499187588 132388515,132389828,2017-07-04 17:01:53,">>132389618 You're the one who ought to be removed for denigrating paleos.",,Anonymous,CcL_TWeVAAA7bb5.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,,,1499187713 132388515,132390571,2017-07-04 17:09:00,">>132389618 >His only personal stance is dude freedom lmao >I'm totally fine with people taking drugs, even if it's my daughter I pity you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499188140 132388515,132390929,2017-07-04 17:12:49,mfw LRG gets btfo by a liberal,,Anonymous,Tehe.png,5KnIszZorlVE1myN2k6fLg==,,,1499188369 132388515,132392736,2017-07-04 17:30:12,"Just heard about this guy. Question. What would the world he espouses look like? What would stop a neighbouring country from just enslaving you all? What does privatization of law and military look like, in practice?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1499189412 132388515,132393159,2017-07-04 17:34:32,,,Anonymous,hoppe ..jpg,tgbVnhziycImt8BNTrjHnA==,,,1499189672 132388515,132394348,2017-07-04 17:45:51,i posted this in another thread and we were talking about the inaccuracies of the placement of the ideologies on this chart. what do you think about the /lrg/ or purple square related ones?,,Anonymous,pure ideologies on a compass.png,+GFyo8W93kw5fDuijJD0dA==,,,1499190351 132388515,132394507,2017-07-04 17:47:32,at least this place has one good general,,Anonymous,,,,,1499190452 132388515,132394681,2017-07-04 17:49:14,">>132394348 My problem with these tests is that it can't differentiate between authority via property rights and authority via the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499190554 132388515,132394787,2017-07-04 17:50:12,">>132394348 It's talking about deserving stuff. How is that ancap lmao",,Anonymous,images.jpg,3mmfVs3Hpyhh8CGYem+1xw==,,,1499190612 132388515,132394998,2017-07-04 17:52:18,Fuck off ancap faggots.,,Anonymous,dihf1u34wm3z.png,ZfUPzTSehcSLNgU/Z0ZjRg==,,,1499190738 132388515,132395171,2017-07-04 17:54:05,">>132394998 starve me outside stalin.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499190845 132388515,132395663,2017-07-04 17:59:24,">>132392736 It won't work. That's why minarchism is the most viable libertanism ideology and approach. AnCap is a meme that's based on a dream that a bunch of disorganized fellas with rifles can hold back a fully trained and equipped military. Or that your private security company won't simply enslave you for x2 the benefits and 0 risk of fighting and dying for you",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1499191164 132388515,132396100,2017-07-04 18:03:34,"Serious question, will degenerate behavior spread in a libertarian society? People today, in general have a more code, but was this instilled in us by force from a government or other type of large collective? Good behavior is not always benifical for a creatures survival, and evil behavior is often rewarded. Could a purpose of s government be to raise the general moral fiber of a society, and could it be more efficient at that task, rather than a totally free world?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499191414 132388515,132396249,2017-07-04 18:04:55,">>132395663 Yeah, I must agree. I don't see how it is an any less corruptible system than we have now.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1499191495 132388515,132396401,2017-07-04 18:06:33,">>132396100 >Serious question, will degenerate behavior spread in a libertarian society? depends on the culture of the society, an religious conservative society will prevent degeneration and move on to higher levels, while atheistic gay societies will die under their own degeneration.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499191593 132388515,132396476,2017-07-04 18:07:18,can someone explain to me how the book club works and how do I participate?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499191638 132388515,132396598,2017-07-04 18:08:30,">>132396401 I can see that happening in today's world, but I think you could make the argument that the church is similar to a government, and wouldn't exist in a libertarian society. At least that's what I meant. So would some kind of hierarchy be necessary in order to keep people moral?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499191710 132388515,132396660,2017-07-04 18:09:06,">>132392736 >>132395663 I use Ancap writers and Ancap theorist to better my ideology and use it as a platform to better myself. Anyone who unironically believes in Ancap and what it fully implemented is delusional",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499191746 132388515,132396733,2017-07-04 18:09:59,">>132396249 I'm not saying it's corruptible, just not viable. I'm all for a bare minimum minarchistic state that's main duty is defend the country and it's basic laws. Minimum taxing via Georgist tax (they defend your land so pay for it). Socialism in general is cancer. Look what it did to your country. Do you think without socialism the state would have the opportunity or money to let in unproductive niggers and other 3rd world filth?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1499191799 132388515,132396793,2017-07-04 18:10:33,">>132394998 Capitalism does distribute wealth in the most efficient way. Whose fault is it that a bunch of fucking degenerates can become millionaires for acting like scum? The right have stood in the way of the downfall of culture and societal standards, it's you leftwing faggots who think humans can behave like animals with no consequences that have done this",,Sage,,,GB,,1499191833 132388515,132396794,2017-07-04 18:10:36,,,Anonymous,110116.jpg,wJ80kT6JgxN+wO/QU41kLw==,,,1499191836 132388515,132396984,2017-07-04 18:12:32,How do you instill morals and raise the general moral fiber of a society without force?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499191952 132388515,132397022,2017-07-04 18:13:00,>>132396794,,Anonymous,scared-black-kid-with-jesus-cross.jpg,v6SW7IokQXPj9EU4Csvf4A==,US,,1499191980 132388515,132397111,2017-07-04 18:13:46,">>132396598 well if the church posesses land and without the state they have to care for the people like medical care, care for the poor like in the old times of the church, I could see a society in which the pope for example leads over the property of the church. But I am not a libertarian, I don't know exactly if they are ok with total authority over private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499192026 132388515,132397140,2017-07-04 18:14:05,"the nap cucks your obtain and sustain power an ancap is unable to preemptively attack someone that's scheming to take over their shit without violating the nap they will die because their meme killed them and their meme will fail to reproduce because it killed the host",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499192045 132388515,132397184,2017-07-04 18:14:31,">>132397140 cucks your ability to*",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499192071 132388515,132397239,2017-07-04 18:15:05,,,Anonymous,1480864518000.png,cbRigTSsfkHpkp8jW/33Rw==,,,1499192105 132388515,132397306,2017-07-04 18:15:42,">>132396984 not using force only applies to people",,Anonymous,commies aren't people.png,BEI3hClposcyN1ZI2Dw08g==,,,1499192142 132388515,132397415,2017-07-04 18:16:38,">>132397111 I see your point. To me that would be a Theocracy, because the church is still acting like and performing the duties of a government. We're prolly just caught up on definitions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499192198 132388515,132397690,2017-07-04 18:19:15,">>132397239 >you can't buy land wrong",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499192355 132388515,132397778,2017-07-04 18:20:07,">>132394998 Aww, staving """"""person"""""" (not to offend his gender pronouns) thinks patents and IP laws are capitalistic.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499192407 132388515,132397779,2017-07-04 18:20:07,"Oh shit my dudes im late. Hail /lrg/, hail our people, God bless America!",,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,kjzv7W5jKnSx19ggmzlUag==,US,,1499192407 132388515,132397869,2017-07-04 18:21:04,">>132397306 Your pointing at a big problem with Lebertsrianism. Where do you draw the line with the NAP? Individuals are not equal, groups of people are not equal, species are not equal. If all individuals get the same rights then this should include every individual animal and plant as well. Is a ancap going to look every time they take a step , avoiding all the bugs? If your being philosophically consistent, you would have to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499192464 132388515,132397919,2017-07-04 18:21:33,">>132397415 >To me that would be a Theocracy yes and so other forms of organisation would also rise and since the absent of an government they have to prevail against all other forms of models and I believe that the conservative values will prevail in the longterm. and strong family bonds will become more important too without a socialist healthcare system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499192493 132388515,132397989,2017-07-04 18:22:23,">>132397869 we don't deal with the NAP, ancaps do, we still have laws and a government",,Anonymous,,,,,1499192543 132388515,132398039,2017-07-04 18:22:52,">>132397140 Or you are the meme way too literally.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499192572 132388515,132398119,2017-07-04 18:23:42,">>132398039 taking the meme way too literally.*",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499192622 132388515,132398221,2017-07-04 18:24:50,">>132398039 i take my memes all the way",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499192690 132388515,132398248,2017-07-04 18:25:03,">>132397989 I'd consider you a socialist then, but it's only words and our own definitions",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499192703 132388515,132398270,2017-07-04 18:25:12,">>132397869 I draw the line at people who are incapable/ideologically opposed to Libertarian ethics and non aggression. If you use commit to a violent lifestyle or follow a violent ideology your rights are void. This is the basis of non aggression. It is a flawless axiom until retards misinterpret it's meaning.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1499192712 132388515,132398319,2017-07-04 18:25:49,">>132398221 Good for you, jew.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499192749 132388515,132398360,2017-07-04 18:26:11,">>132398248 >I'd consider you a socialist then the only way you could have insulted me more is if you called me a commie",,Anonymous,shocked sloth.jpg,w/TpbZHIUMEigeZIOUj0rw==,,,1499192771 132388515,132398361,2017-07-04 18:26:11,">>132397919 I want to hope moral values would live on, I just don't see how in a ""survival of the fittest"" type situation, morals are not necessarily evolutionarily benifical",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499192771 132388515,132398568,2017-07-04 18:28:02,">>132398360 I apologize, but I believe a true capitalism can only exist without a government, and by merely existing, the state taints the free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499192882 132388515,132398569,2017-07-04 18:28:03,">>132398360 Commie. I kid. I do believe in a direct democracy sort of government. Presidents are elected dictators, however much you love them.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499192883 132388515,132398585,2017-07-04 18:28:16,">>132398319 the fuck did you just call me",,Anonymous,theworldmomonlyknows.png,p9v2KX/WqrNgw+flz49AzQ==,IL,,1499192896 132388515,132398644,2017-07-04 18:28:50,">>132398270 So you think violence against an ignorant person is justified?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499192930 132388515,132398663,2017-07-04 18:29:01,">>132398585 He called you a Jew, kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499192941 132388515,132398688,2017-07-04 18:29:15,"this is inevitable, authoritarian cucks are proving the point that theirs is the inferior system for inferior population the moment of what must be done is getting ever so closer, I say let's hasten the day",,Anonymous,,,,,1499192955 132388515,132398695,2017-07-04 18:29:20,">>132398568 no need to apologize, it's no big deal",,Anonymous,,,,,1499192960 132388515,132398706,2017-07-04 18:29:28,">>132398644 Ignorant as in violent because he's dumb? Yes. Absolutely.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499192968 132388515,132398750,2017-07-04 18:29:53,">>132398585 AYO HOL UP!",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499192993 132388515,132398778,2017-07-04 18:30:12,">>132397869 The NAP is useless in reality, it is just a moral standard, left from european values, especially property rights and don't harm anyone who is innocent, it will just sort itself out with time I always think about it like in the old days of europe, where there was no strong government, the NAP as a hole is just something people with too much time on their hand pulled out to make a philosophical point. >>132398361 >morals are not necessarily evolutionarily benifical they are you need a big family and be on good terms with them, because you need each other, so no degerate kids who wants to be transgender and have a sexchange to fuck tyrone, because they can'T afford it without a family backing them up and if they would do it on their own they wouldn'T ahve anything when they are old because of their degenerate lifestyle which also leads to no reproduction. and if you make enough money to pay for nurses when you are old, still no offspring, which leads to a decrease of this part of degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499193012 132388515,132398801,2017-07-04 18:30:27,">>132398706 You said the NAP does not apply to people who don't believe in libertarianism, that does not link them to violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193027 132388515,132398823,2017-07-04 18:30:38,">>132398663 burger",,Anonymous,OBAMA SAMA.jpg,nbteUXbiJRaNbc0VN69yng==,IL,,1499193038 132388515,132399065,2017-07-04 18:32:53,">>132398801 Yes it does link them to violence. They reject non initiation of force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193173 132388515,132399138,2017-07-04 18:33:34,">>132398823 Jew",,Anonymous,IMG_1904.jpg,hEk6VRkTc0SIwRvL3QLl8A==,US,,1499193214 132388515,132399283,2017-07-04 18:35:09,"I have a question for all right libertarians since I have split with the right socialists, Iam working on an alliance with conservative libertarians irl here. and so it comes that I meet tomorrow with some classical liberals and some libertarians, but what I saw from german libertarians on youtube they are all left libertarians, so how should I aproach them or what should I expect in gerneral from them, should I admit that I am a fascist or schould I start with hoppe, or just go along with them for the beginning?",,Anonymous,no step on kyoko.png,TNf4XA8LJGyt8QZ5IGw2Kw==,,,1499193309 132388515,132399302,2017-07-04 18:35:22,">>132398778 Your second point: I can imagine how morals would be beneficial in that situation, but I can think of many situations were morals are not useful, and even a hindrance on well being. First point: I believed in Libertarianism because I thought it completely adhered to the NAP, which for me at the time was the extent of a enlighten and completely moral society. Now that I question the NAP, how people only use it against humans and not all life forms, I see it is not completely consistent. If this ideology is not completely consistent, why not be a fascist or a commie?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193322 132388515,132399303,2017-07-04 18:35:23,">>132398823 Jokes on you oven dodger, I love merica memes. Especially on 1776 day. I'm eating a burger right now while I laugh at you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193323 132388515,132399320,2017-07-04 18:35:38,">pretend to be ancap >actually stirnerite",,Anonymous,150px-Stirner02.jpg,H7ugOoyxvlUysXHnvhGpaw==,,,1499193338 132388515,132399380,2017-07-04 18:36:14,">>132399065 Because they don't know about it, some one could go there whole life without know what violence is, and still not committing any violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193374 132388515,132399419,2017-07-04 18:36:38,">>132399138 burger",,Anonymous,internet.png,ln2MPMuk+BA70jF+u90f+A==,IL,,1499193398 132388515,132399427,2017-07-04 18:36:43,">>132397989 The US is a minarchy, a constitutional minarchy. And what you see today is the result of minarchy. The moment you let public domain take hold of a society you open the door for democracy, it's impossible to have it any other way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499193403 132388515,132399462,2017-07-04 18:37:01,">>132399283 Left Libertarians are cancer. There's about as much debate with them as social justice kids.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193421 132388515,132399593,2017-07-04 18:38:22,">>132399283 Hoppe forces left libertarians to contradict themselves rather quickly if you're well versed in his line of argumentation. Just prove to them that they have a vision for society and that they will need violence for it, should not be too hard if they're closed minded.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499193502 132388515,132399666,2017-07-04 18:39:01,">>132399320 same",,Anonymous,,,,,1499193541 132388515,132399687,2017-07-04 18:39:13,">>132399427 What's stopping degeneracy in an ancap society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193553 132388515,132399713,2017-07-04 18:39:26,">>132399419 sauce on that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193566 132388515,132399791,2017-07-04 18:40:05,">>132399380 I care not about their ignorance. I care about non violence. There's nothing more you can get out of this. I don't know what you're trying to get out of me. This is very simple. No aggression, no problem. You don't have to read Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193605 132388515,132399861,2017-07-04 18:40:41,">>132399302 because animals and plants can't express their free will, that's why they are considered property, again things that just derived from our european values over the time, there is no need for thinking about a nap it is a thing that gets way too much attention in my opinion also I am a fascist but just on the spiritual part not on the material so I don't care for a state or a party. >>132399687 the residends of the village, you know how people kicked out jews or thieves or rapists",,Anonymous,,,,,1499193641 132388515,132400077,2017-07-04 18:42:48,">>132388515 Reminder thst this pasta needs a mention of ""Objectivism"" deserves a mention in the OP as it encapsulates Nationalism, Capitalism, Meritocracy, Individualism, and Libertarianism all rolled into one. Libertarianism is only useful as a technical qualifier and is basically incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk Posting a related video. Good old John Galt's 3 hour long speech, from an audiobook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5nhYo5nx4 >>132394507 This. NatSoc general and their pretending that they're right wing can fuck right off. Neocons sre cucked to Libtards and NatSocs to Commies, of which they were merely a competitor and not diametrically opposed to. Anyone/thing NOT diametrically opposed to Communism is ubercucke in my book.",,Anonymous,1497141679894.png,GwLsV8x1jBvWsD4RCHf9Cw==,US,,1499193768 132388515,132400100,2017-07-04 18:43:04,">>132399791 I guess I thought you were justifying violence against those who might be violent in the future. I wanted to challenge you on that to either change your point of view or come to a closer understanding of each other, and I think we have. But back to my original point, degeneracy is not violence so you cannot use force against degenerates. Now what's stopping these people from flourishing in your society? Government can't because that is violence against the peaceful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193784 132388515,132400113,2017-07-04 18:43:09,">>132399713 i don't know m8",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499193789 132388515,132400151,2017-07-04 18:43:26,>>132400077,,Anonymous,1496877199124.jpg,2E6B8zIP8Zjc5z2NTX4bEQ==,,,1499193806 132388515,132400273,2017-07-04 18:44:37,">>132400151 nap is truly the greatest of spooks",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499193877 132388515,132400306,2017-07-04 18:44:55,">>132399687 I wrote about this in another thread, pic related",,Anonymous,on_degeneracy.png,uY584NlWH7Cp8zITBDg7Pw==,,,1499193895 132388515,132400388,2017-07-04 18:45:45,">>132399861 Lol, I like what you said about being a spiritual fascist. I've lately come to to think of a perfect society as having no fiscal or economic, laws and policies, but having very strict social laws, limiting degenerate behavior. I will from now on call it spiritual fascism!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499193945 132388515,132400411,2017-07-04 18:45:57,">>132399462 >>132399593 I still hope they are some way conservative, one of the classical liberal who is coming is a coworker of mine and we can agree on many points except his devotion to democracy, so I hope he got some conservative people in there. but still they are germans so I expect some kind of cuckoldry. If they are left libertarians I just hope they don't start their autistic screaming",,Anonymous,korwin5.jpg,WNDqYOSPU4lA2l01PLUAJA==,,,1499193957 132388515,132400494,2017-07-04 18:46:52,">>132400100 Against degeneracy. Property rights allows the proprietors to exclude anyone he wishes. This means innept people and degenerates alike, and there is good incentive to do this being the destructive nature of degeneracy and their tendencies towards Socialism. Sure we don't approve of murdering them. But we very much approve of kicking them out of polite society and being rid of them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194012 132388515,132400550,2017-07-04 18:47:29,">>132396401 And yet Japan is getting stronger and they are one of the gayest least religious societies in the world. Rethink your priorities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194049 132388515,132400595,2017-07-04 18:47:52,"Hello fellow libertarians, how are we smashing the government today?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499194072 132388515,132400601,2017-07-04 18:47:59,">>132400151 Retard doesn't understand self interests beyond stealing for immediate profit. Stirnerites are truly short sighted idiots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194079 132388515,132400620,2017-07-04 18:48:09,">>132400388 >I've lately come to to think of a perfect society as having no fiscal or economic, laws and policies that's what I was always thinking until I found out that capitalism and free markets are those things, I lost many years fighting capitalism not knowing what it really is because of the lies of my right socialist friends at the time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499194089 132388515,132400628,2017-07-04 18:48:17,">>132400077 I'll put a mention for you my man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194097 132388515,132400681,2017-07-04 18:48:44,">>132400306 I agree that these are accurate arguments against what is currently being used to curb degeneracy , but it does not tell me how the ancaps will stop degeneracy. I understand some of the problems today that lead to degenerate behavior would not occur to the ancaps, but what is preventing degenerate behavior in this ""survival of the fittest scenario? I don't beleive it's evolution, because I can imagine ways in which degenerate behavior can be evolutionarily beneficial. What else could stop it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194124 132388515,132400786,2017-07-04 18:49:45,">>132400595 Eating burgers and lighting up illegal fireworks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194185 132388515,132400791,2017-07-04 18:49:47,">>132388515 Happy 4th to you all, my friends.",,Anonymous,tmp589921089065320448.jpg,AsmldvMp64YB+e0RyuqMGw==,DE,,1499194187 132388515,132400826,2017-07-04 18:50:10,">>132400791 God bless.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194210 132388515,132400847,2017-07-04 18:50:26,">>132400601 muh enlightened self interest will never make you truly compassionate and moral, because there will always be opportunities to be egoist without suffering any consequences",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499194226 132388515,132400880,2017-07-04 18:50:42,">>132400620 I agree with you 100% on that, but when you have a free market of moral principles, so to speak, the most ""good"" values are not always the most beneficial and can lose to more ""evil"" values",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194242 132388515,132400996,2017-07-04 18:51:50,">>132400550 Japan is economically fucked, they are de facto a US colony their population will soon shrink and all will sort itself out.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499194310 132388515,132401001,2017-07-04 18:51:54,">>132388515 FUCK YOU",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194314 132388515,132401263,2017-07-04 18:54:25,">>132400494 I see that as an unjustified use of force, and by that point you might as well be a fascist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194465 132388515,132401308,2017-07-04 18:54:57,">>132400880 That is why the strentgh of a nation must come from within yourself, you can't really say you are an honorable nation, if you need the state to prevent you from becoming an heroin addict and die from it. and another good thing is that without a socialistic healthcare system those junkies will sort themselves out because no insurance company will take them and if they try to rob you for more money to buy drugs you can jsut shoot them and nobody would care.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499194497 132388515,132401309,2017-07-04 18:54:58,">>132400847 Stealing and murdering are not in your long term self interests. The difference between objectivist egoism and Stirner egoism is the time preference. I'm not a randian, but I know what she's talking about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194498 132388515,132401419,2017-07-04 18:56:03,">>132401263 You can see it that way if you want. But we believe in property rights. Degenerates do not have a right to my property. Deal with it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194563 132388515,132401500,2017-07-04 18:56:49,">>132401419 You can keep them off your land but not out of your society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194609 132388515,132401502,2017-07-04 18:56:50,">>132400681 >but it does not tell me how the ancaps will stop degeneracy. By letting it die off on its own. If what are commonly accepted as ""degenerate"" behaviors are truly bad, then when you don't let a degenerate into your ancap community, they will have to associate with others like them in their own community, and they won't be able to hack it and die off. If they can survive, then so be it, you won't have to see them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194610 132388515,132401532,2017-07-04 18:57:01,"Got an ebook and audiobook collection just for you! magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books >Picture related",,Anonymous,Reading Guide.jpg,268Ez1fa7r2nZ27vb+Ytmw==,GB,,1499194621 132388515,132401577,2017-07-04 18:57:33,">>132400151 Those two do not contradict. And as fsr as Egoists go Rand>Stirner>>>Nietszche Stirner may have coined it but Rand arrived at Egoism through objective reason as opposed to le Spook man arriving at it through relative emotion. And no her being and Egoist was not her plagiarizing Stirner like dipshit /lit/fags like to assert but simply a case of convergdnt evolution borne from the advent of Aristotle. Don't get me wrong; I like Stirner. He's good, he just aint Rand good. Anarchism and Nihilism are entertaining rhetorically but are not to be considered seriously. LfCap>AnCap because Minarchism>Anarchism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194653 132388515,132401645,2017-07-04 18:58:09,">>132394998 You're implying a ""should"", as in, for being a slut, she ""should not"" get money. Which implies somebody has to control whether or not she gets money and for what, and who else is to get it. Sorry, Communist faggot, your vaunted stateless society requires a monstrous state and will allocate resources inefficiently where people value them least, as has been proven time and again and time and again and time and again and time and again...",,Anonymous,,,,,1499194689 132388515,132401662,2017-07-04 18:58:15,">>132401309 >implying egoist anarchism = exclusively stealing and murdering It's only doing those things when it benefits you, you retard. Have you even read any Stirner?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499194695 132388515,132401712,2017-07-04 18:58:41,">>132400681 Simply, property value and imitation of successful formulas along with contracts. You don't need the whole world to be anti-degenerate, you only need a city. Market will offer anti-degenerate options and these options are always the economical optimal. Imagine, you're rich, you have a house and live there for 10 years. Suddenly MCNigguh, a famous world rapper, buys the house next to yours, he starts bringing prostitutes, shooting his pistol in his property, letting his dogs shit all over the other properties, having his children bringing drugs to your daughter. This is de facto devaluing your property more than termites, but with the state there's absolutely nothing you can do. Without the state, these people would not think twice before signing a contract that prevents people of certain IQ to purchase property next to them Private cities will, in their own self interest, maintain and grow their property value, and keeping degenerates out is quite a good way to do so. All you need then is one of these cities to show that excluding people of a specific IQ or with specific behaviors increases property value, and these contracts will be replicated in multiple other places as it would be a successful formula.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499194721 132388515,132401738,2017-07-04 18:58:55,">>132401500 Society in ancapistan is someone's land. There is no common land, there is no public property. Such an analogy is not applicable to ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194735 132388515,132401889,2017-07-04 19:00:16,">>132388515 Libertarianism is going to be the bane of the west. We already have seen how libertarian values destroyed society and tradition. Now when we face economic desperation the kikes will be forcing this LARP ideological meme to avoid the obvious thing that needs to be done. 1488",,Anonymous,1499009225057.jpg,z2upkUl1+VJN04jme6bHow==,,,1499194816 132388515,132401925,2017-07-04 19:00:37,">>132397869 Holy fuck, what are you talking about? The NAP only applies to people and their property. Animals don't have rights, which means that it's not an aggressive act to kill them, eat them, or do something else to them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499194837 132388515,132401944,2017-07-04 19:00:47,">>132401712 Who's enforcing that contract? And how are they doing it without force?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194847 132388515,132401991,2017-07-04 19:01:15,">>132401925 Why don't they have rights?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194875 132388515,132401992,2017-07-04 19:01:16,>>132401889,,Anonymous,no step on gorilla warfare.jpg,KJWDA7FolzrE0vAeaNR3YQ==,,,1499194876 132388515,132402104,2017-07-04 19:02:21,">>132388515 Hate Has No Home Here",,Anonymous,Tolerance.jpg,t7vnw6W6Vkmy0dfg+MZbfQ==,US,,1499194941 132388515,132402135,2017-07-04 19:02:40,">>132401309 >Stealing and murdering are not in your long term self interests unless you can get away with it with high chances and it's sufficiently rewarding time preference doesn't have anything to do with stirner egoism, it's about not submitting yourself to superego type authorities such as god, society, loyalty, the greater good, and so on",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499194960 132388515,132402148,2017-07-04 19:02:52,">>132401738 Where do people go if they don't have land? Is being on someone's land reason enough to use force against them? If so, and all the land is owned, what do you do with them, without infringing on someone else's property rights?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499194972 132388515,132402207,2017-07-04 19:03:24,">>132400996 When new borns have close to 100% survival rate at birth, people tend to make fewer babies, it's happening in Europe as well. When things get better, people tend to be more lax. It's why UAE is super lax on booze and parties but that is considered degeneracy in Afghanistan. Same values, different circumstances. You just have to wait it out. Beating the stupid out of them will just make more stupid. It's what I observe in all societies. And when you wait it out you breed out the stupid by meritocracy, and you end up with some ""degeneracy"", for a lack of better words. Unless you go full genocide, which then I question your morals and your humanity. How much more civilized are you than niggers killing each-other because they are in a different tribe. Such as the Tutsi vs Hutus.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499195004 132388515,132402217,2017-07-04 19:03:29,">>132401991 because they can't articulate free will. same as retarded people, they live more on mercy than rights, again mercy derived from european values which why we just don't kill them, while in an arab society they would just be drowned.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195009 132388515,132402256,2017-07-04 19:03:56,">>132401944 If we were in an anarcho capitalist society you would most likely acquire property within other people's land and receive services along with that property, similar to a state but in a much more decentralized way. These contracts should have provisions to third party arbitration in case of conflict between the landlord and the person buying property rights over a parcel. Third party arbitration would be any security insurance known for being fair.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195036 132388515,132402323,2017-07-04 19:04:38,">>132402217 Can I use violence against someone because they are retarded then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195078 132388515,132402452,2017-07-04 19:05:48,">>132402256 So it's like a government, but not? I'm not try to be fesecious, but how is it not a government then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195148 132388515,132402523,2017-07-04 19:06:22,">>132402323 you can if you don't have any sense of morality, but consider the retard has a family and also bystanders wouldn't just watch when you beat up a retard. >>132402207 exactly",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195182 132388515,132402538,2017-07-04 19:06:31,">>132402148 In Rothbards words ""where will the bum class go? Who cares?""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195191 132388515,132402625,2017-07-04 19:07:25,">>132392736 medieval feudalism",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1499195245 132388515,132402652,2017-07-04 19:07:41,">>132402207 >>When new borns have close to 100% survival rate at birth, people tend to make fewer babies, it's happening in Europe as well. applying r k selection to humans is silly. it has more to do with the fact that poor people living in shitholes have nothing to do all day but fuck and also children make valuable workers in low tech shitholes whereas in developed countries they're almost useless. poor people in developed countries such as israel don't have their children die at birth, but they still have a lot of children because they're retards.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499195261 132388515,132402663,2017-07-04 19:07:48,"Anyone else totally comfortable with using the state to enforce far-right ideals if we find ourselves living under a state? I'm asking because I really like the notion physically removing leftists as well as other undesirables and want to restore property rights and natural order. I think anarcho-capitalism is ideal but I really like the idea of using an already-existing state to force the most responsible members of a society to lead that society as well as utilize the physical removal principle (arguably in a less efficient way) to secure a civilization and a future for its children. >>132394348 Five's so cozy.",,Anonymous,pinochet.jpg,ImTRIFs4BaXbCqWxkf/GIw==,US,,1499195268 132388515,132402686,2017-07-04 19:08:06,">>132401309 ...but you should be Randian. :3",,Anonymous,1489715813327.png,v8f+mzptezSyNQ3mCRBl7A==,US,,1499195286 132388515,132402690,2017-07-04 19:08:09,">>132402452 Because it is voluntary, the relationship is exposed to a contract and third party arbitration, and it is decentralized to the point where ""if you don't like it just leave"" becomes much less impactful. It's changing the ""social contract"" for actual contracts, which is a major change already in the way society works.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195289 132388515,132402695,2017-07-04 19:08:14,">>132402452 the problem with modern states is that it has a monopoly of violence over other properties, while the state itself has no rightful property and everything it declares as property is bought by stolen money.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195294 132388515,132402736,2017-07-04 19:08:37,">>132402523 Aw man, I liked this ideology because I believed it was the most moral true, but if you can kill a retard because they can express there free will, I'm out.>>132402538",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195317 132388515,132402754,2017-07-04 19:08:44,">>132402652 Or are they poor because they are retards?",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499195324 132388515,132402882,2017-07-04 19:09:51,">>132402538 I guess I don't think owning land should be a precursor to survival.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195391 132388515,132402888,2017-07-04 19:09:55,">>132402736 well it is, it is only your fault if you are a unmoral bastard who goes out kicking retarded people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195395 132388515,132402956,2017-07-04 19:10:33,">>132402736 You're probably gonna like mainstream don't tread on me Libertarianism. It's the alt-light of ancap. Better suited for degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195433 132388515,132402972,2017-07-04 19:10:39,">>132402754 the eternal cycle",,Anonymous,1448678189256.jpg,yiEHUpfbBLepFEUTc4pkCQ==,IL,,1499195439 132388515,132403073,2017-07-04 19:11:35,">>132402882 Your body is your property. You can never not own yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195495 132388515,132403113,2017-07-04 19:11:54,">>132402690 I think you nailed it on the head, it's changing social contracts to actual contracts. I don't see how this fixes the problem as a whole, I can see how it might be better than what we have now though.>>132402956",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195514 132388515,132403118,2017-07-04 19:12:00,">>132400628 This guy",,Anonymous,1436817988001.png,Kx4qFcUrQ0IqcyZPj7yyQQ==,US,,1499195520 132388515,132403163,2017-07-04 19:12:22,">>132403073 ownership is theft from the commune",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499195542 132388515,132403189,2017-07-04 19:12:36,">>132403073 I agree>>132402956",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195556 132388515,132403233,2017-07-04 19:13:04,">>132402663 >Anyone else totally comfortable with using the state to enforce far-right ideals if we find ourselves living under a state? No",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195584 132388515,132403247,2017-07-04 19:13:13,">>132402956 Would the degenerate thing to do be the killing of the sped?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195593 132388515,132403302,2017-07-04 19:13:43,">>132388515 Daily reminder",,Anonymous,1492862703703.png,33JamP/+rcSolC9HyaQNUw==,CA,,1499195623 132388515,132403431,2017-07-04 19:14:55,">>132402686 I don't want to read her long ass book. But I like her. What should I look at?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195695 132388515,132403482,2017-07-04 19:15:21,">>132401991 They can't exercise free will, they can't consent, they can't reciprocate rights, etc. There are many reasons.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195721 132388515,132403505,2017-07-04 19:15:34,">>132403431 just do what i do and read the wiki i never read any books but nobody calls bs",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499195734 132388515,132403533,2017-07-04 19:16:00,">>132401991 also, they have no understanding of rights or non-aggression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195760 132388515,132403538,2017-07-04 19:16:03,">>132403163 I don't care about your commie horseshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195763 132388515,132403608,2017-07-04 19:16:50,">>132403505 >just do what i do and read the wiki efficiency, thats why the jew always wins",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195810 132388515,132403609,2017-07-04 19:16:51,">>132402736 Why do you not rob? Is it because you fear punishment of the state or you think it is wrong. Could be both. I accept both. For example, I don't download video games without buying them because I fear punishment, but I also think it is wrong.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499195811 132388515,132403630,2017-07-04 19:17:04,">>132402736 You might believe that throwing stones to women for being unfaithful to their husbands or hanging homosexuals is immoral, but this belief alone won't stop people from doing it in their country. In order to ""expand"" your moral values you either do it through argumentation, or through violent invasion to their countries. Anarcho Capitalism deals with moral relativism by using segregation, you associate yourself with people who share your moral values and hope that your decisions lead to prosperity and therefore more people wanting to live under the same conditions as you. For example, age of consent. If you have a girlfriend and are planning to have a family, would you purchase property in a place with no age of consent enforced? Would you not have some sort of insurance against your 13 years old daughter being seduced and abused by an older man? The problem with today's migration is the lack of contracts, people move to places that are way better in moral values but they don't need to renounce to their morals in order to live there, this changes in ancapistan, properties that enforce strict morals will be more attractive than those which don't.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499195824 132388515,132403663,2017-07-04 19:17:19,">>132403505 I called bs. I've never read her but I can tell you have no clue.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195839 132388515,132403768,2017-07-04 19:18:11,">>132403533 I think we're just getting caught up on how where justifying who gets rights. I can see the reasons and benefits of killing that person, or the animal, but if I'm being morally consistent, I would have to say that all living beings should have the same rights, and deserve the same initial respect.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195891 132388515,132403812,2017-07-04 19:18:33,Hoppeans are not real libertarians.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499195913 132388515,132403895,2017-07-04 19:19:18,">>132403630 Fucking this, I want to live in a society free of Islam and Socialism.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499195958 132388515,132403961,2017-07-04 19:20:00,">>132403768 then you'd have to life in a town where all people think like you, or live in a village where nobody cares, but you will always be the crazy guy who talks to bugs and tomatoes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196000 132388515,132404008,2017-07-04 19:20:22,">>132403663 it's too late to call bs now that i told you lmao also ownership is nothing more than successfully exercising power to hoard resources for egoistic purposes. your labour doesn't entitle you it's fruits, you're just emotionally invested into the stuff you've invested time and energy into making so you get mad when someone tries to take it",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499196022 132388515,132404043,2017-07-04 19:20:47,">>132403630 We have the ability to do all of that with or without a government. I can see how ancap society could be more ""efficient"" , for lack of a good vocabulary, at reaching these goals, but I still don't see how it stops evil people from flourishing. Not saying that our current society does that either",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196047 132388515,132404157,2017-07-04 19:21:51,">>132404008 I called bs before that. Unless there's another kike in the thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196111 132388515,132404204,2017-07-04 19:22:25,">>132403812 Non hoppeans are not real Libertarians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196145 132388515,132404212,2017-07-04 19:22:31,">>132403961 Lololol true, but luckily I allow myself to be flawed, although I am still trying to pursue a morally consistent ideology, and I don't think it is libertarianism, or monarchism, or anarchocapitalism. I am lost",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196151 132388515,132404254,2017-07-04 19:22:51,">>132404157 this board has id's burgerking",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499196171 132388515,132404326,2017-07-04 19:23:24,">>132404043 >but I still don't see how it stops evil people from flourishing. Not saying that our current society does that either it will by force, it is clear that failed individuals will come together to loot the well doing settlements, so you have to fight them off. think about it like all the shitskins flooding our countries, if government would do his job, they would shoot everyone when he crosses the border illegally.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196204 132388515,132404388,2017-07-04 19:24:04,"Do you remember the chapter in Culture Of Critique about the group of intellectuals who surrounded Freud? It was a sort of secretive Jewish cult bent on subverting the West. It seems to me that Rothbard calls out Ayn Rand for trying to form a similar sort of cult. I think Rothbard was one of the good ones and Rand was one of the potentially anti-western ones. Rothbard here compares her to a cult leader and talks about how secretive and in-group oriented it was, exactly the way Kevin MacDonald describes Freud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dejVMFLpQuY https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/mozart.html To anyone who is more familiar with Rand and the objectivists, am I on base with this speculation? I confess I've not read her at all. Are there examples of gentiles who the objectivists wouldn't allow into their clique? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivist_movement I'm barely glancing through this page and almost every single person is a Jew, even moreso than the Austrians. I personally think Rothbard's anarchism is non-subversive.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196244 132388515,132404392,2017-07-04 19:24:06,">>132404254 Yeah I looked back and it was you. So go fuck yourself idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196246 132388515,132404429,2017-07-04 19:24:16,">>132403768 You're wrong though. If you want to be a vegan, then more power to you; however, that doesn't mean that people are morally inconsistent if they don't think animals have rights. People have rights because they have the ability to express their free will, and because they have the ability to reciprocate rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196256 132388515,132404459,2017-07-04 19:24:35,">>132404212 >I allow myself to be flawed I wouldn't care if you don't steal or or doing some other shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196275 132388515,132404468,2017-07-04 19:24:40,">>132404392 quote me retard",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499196280 132388515,132404502,2017-07-04 19:25:06,">>132404043 We don't have the ability to segregate at all, we're being forced to multiculturalism and having to support externalities of people we've never even crossed paths with. >but I still don't see how it stops evil people from flourishing Could you be a bit more concrete as how this would happen so I can address your concern concisely?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196306 132388515,132404582,2017-07-04 19:25:53,">>132401309 >>132400847 >>132404468 My post your post and your latest post here faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196353 132388515,132404691,2017-07-04 19:26:57,">>132404582 doesn't look anything like you calling bs though, you're giving me ""i was just pretending to be retarded"" levels of damage control right now what is this",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499196417 132388515,132404694,2017-07-04 19:26:59,">>132394998 She created publicity and popularity so people used her to get money. It is pretty basic and many people are used to simply push a trend or make a company money through using people like this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196419 132388515,132404826,2017-07-04 19:28:05,">>132404326 I agree, but I wanted to get there without using force, and was hoping y'all could enlighten me, o well",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196485 132388515,132404876,2017-07-04 19:28:32,">>132404691 I was correcting you're understanding of randian self interest. Now you're just playing dumb.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196512 132388515,132404931,2017-07-04 19:29:13,">>132404876 but you're wrong in your correction",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499196553 132388515,132404963,2017-07-04 19:29:29,">>132396100 Degenerate behavior can easily be culled. It could actually be controlled more than in our world. I can explain it in something that is very simple. If one of your friends has ever said ""hey, I am going to get a face tattoo"", you either have very bad friends or you tell them ""You shouldn't do that as you couldn't find many jobs if you did that"". Employment and regulations for employees maintain structure in the workplace and could prevent degenerative behaviors in a nation with a small government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196569 132388515,132405002,2017-07-04 19:29:49,">>132404502 I disagree on the segregation thing, but that really doesn't matter and we probly won't come to any conclusion. But my point about evil behavior is that sometimes it is evolutionarily beneficial, and without a extra evolutionary force, like a hierarchy, we would lose all morals that are not useful to survival",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196589 132388515,132405010,2017-07-04 19:29:57,"Reminder: Right>Left Capitalism>Socialism Meritocracy>Democracy Libertarian>Authoritarian Libertarianism>Egalitarianism Objectivism>Libertarianism Objectivism>Subjectivism/Relativism Egoism>Altruism Individualism>Collectivism Individualism>Statism Nationalism>Globalism Anarchism>Totalitarianism Minarchism>Anarchism Conservative>Progressive Liberal>Fascist NatCap>NatSoc What am I missing? Don't be afraid to mention something I already have as long as it's compared by a different standard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196597 132388515,132405075,2017-07-04 19:30:30,">>132403812 everyday until you present an argument faggot",,Anonymous,kys.png,j9UQaXw+IwJmQwzWfSiwyA==,GR,,1499196630 132388515,132405110,2017-07-04 19:30:47,">>132404931 No. You're wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196647 132388515,132405203,2017-07-04 19:31:36,">>132405010 that's pretty damn accurate actually. i'm only reserved about the objectivism part",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1499196696 132388515,132405222,2017-07-04 19:31:46,">>132399283 Simply use their own logic against them. Minorities usually push for more government to prevent hate crimes which is a reasonable justification for their removal from society based on their actions and not on their heritage.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196706 132388515,132405278,2017-07-04 19:32:16,">>132405010 The only flaw I see is that true egoism IS altruism. It's a hard pill to swallow tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196736 132388515,132405288,2017-07-04 19:32:22,">>132404826 There is no such utopia in which everyone hugs each other, violence and force are part of nature, even if all humans would come together there will still be wildlife who uses force when you walk into their territory or you could even consider earthquakes as natural violence. You could only have love and peace inside an area with strong border where people who use more violence than the outside force to keep you safe inside. Viloence is always the last resort if there are no more arguments and when you cant agree because both parties think they are right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196742 132388515,132405423,2017-07-04 19:33:28,">>132405010 >thing I like>thing I don't like >x>y >a>b >c>d >e>f >g>h >i>j >k>l Wow such a clever and informative post!",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196808 132388515,132405454,2017-07-04 19:33:42,">>132400151 The self-interest comes from basic self preservation by finding a way to maintain yourself, then after you are fully stable, improving your situation by starting your own business and making society better by growing the economy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196822 132388515,132405460,2017-07-04 19:33:46,">>132405288 That's probly true, but for some reason, inherently illogical, I will keep chasing that utopia in the form of refining what I think could create that utopia.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196826 132388515,132405466,2017-07-04 19:33:51,">>132405010 I also gotta say that minarchism is more of a pipe dream than Anarchism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196831 132388515,132405552,2017-07-04 19:34:39,">>132405222 good point, they will surely bring up discrimination, in which case they woull need a government with hate speech laws to prevent it, which would contratict with my property rights if I hate on niggers on my own lawn for example",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196879 132388515,132405559,2017-07-04 19:34:41,">>132405002 Again man, I'm not trying to pester you but you need to be more concrete. Saying that evil behavior is sometimes evolutionarily beneficial by itself is almost impossible to address, give me one example of this that could happen under anarcho capitalism and I will either explain or admit a grey area. >and without a extra evolutionary force, like a hierarchy, we would lose all morals that are not useful to survival Why would we lose morals if we, in our self interest, look forward to living in places guided by moral values? And we believe in decentralized hierarchy to support those morals, of course.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196881 132388515,132405570,2017-07-04 19:34:49,">>132403812 How do you come to that conclusion?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196889 132388515,132405626,2017-07-04 19:35:26,">It's either capitalism or communism, there is no third wa-",,Anonymous,1495413694297.jpg,f23AllJdLGYipa9jNJm9Ug==,,,1499196926 132388515,132405652,2017-07-04 19:35:38,">>132405110 > The difference between objectivist egoism and Stirner egoism is the time preference. but that's wrong. the difference is that stirner doesn't prescribe ought-spooks and goes maxium edge",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499196938 132388515,132405665,2017-07-04 19:35:46,">>132405460 try to go into the mountains and meditate, maybe you will come to a conclusion, that's not even sarcastic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499196946 132388515,132405708,2017-07-04 19:36:13,">>132405466 As in anarchy can happen due to civil war and minarchism needs people to transform from whatever system to minarchism?",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499196973 132388515,132405716,2017-07-04 19:36:17,">>132405203 Watch this (first vid): >>132400077",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499196977 132388515,132405767,2017-07-04 19:36:45,">>132405626 but the reichsarbeitsdienst didn't had rifles, they only had shovels.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197005 132388515,132405768,2017-07-04 19:36:46,">>132405626 You are just in time for the free heli rides.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499197006 132388515,132405802,2017-07-04 19:37:08,">>132405552 Exactly. I usually cut out the racial slurs until I befriend them (then I use them in a comical nature so everyone thinks it is funny) but you can point to the simple evidence with programs such as affirmative action, the modern day welfare state and crime rates which drive many to demand more law enforcement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197028 132388515,132405810,2017-07-04 19:37:12,">>132405010 i am a fan of this post",,Anonymous,1489908384069.jpg,bTsEpFlFBN7LRK7cc9Z+2g==,,,1499197032 132388515,132405824,2017-07-04 19:37:21,">>132405652 Lol, you're a basic bitch. You haven't taken egoism to it's conclusion. Altruism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499197041 132388515,132405856,2017-07-04 19:37:40,">>132405423 >posts with crypto-leftist flag Opinion immediately discarded",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499197060 132388515,132405886,2017-07-04 19:37:58,">>132405708 In that there is no such thing as ""limited government""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499197078 132388515,132405915,2017-07-04 19:38:09,">>132405626 You forgot the part where the leader launches a war against his own European brothers, becomes a drug addict and then commits suicide. I will admit that National Socialism is the best form of socialism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197089 132388515,132405944,2017-07-04 19:38:26,">>132405768 Not surprised that some slave driving Saudi degenerate is an Ancap.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197106 132388515,132405978,2017-07-04 19:38:52,">>132405824 altruism following from egoism is only circumstantial. if i'm a pure psychopath you have no way of appealing to my emotion because i have none, why should i be altruistic?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499197132 132388515,132406020,2017-07-04 19:39:14,">>132405802 Yes thanks I will try to be as moderate as possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197154 132388515,132406021,2017-07-04 19:39:14,">>132405915 >National Socialism is the best form of socialism. that's because it wasn't really socialism (not like i'm complaining but still)",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197154 132388515,132406062,2017-07-04 19:39:39,">>132405559 Don't worry I'm not pestered, and I'm not being clear. its a assumption to say that all morally good behavior is beneficial to survival. So the specific evil behavior really doesn't matter. It could be many diffrent issues. The burden is not on me to give you an instance were your society breaks, we aren't even qualified to assume the answers to those breaking a. The burden is on you to tell me how your going to stop behavior that is evolutionarily beneficial while still adhering to the NAP. I don't think you can. Evil behavior is not necessarily violent behavior, and you can't assume that it will die out as society becomes more free",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499197179 132388515,132406081,2017-07-04 19:39:58,">>132405978 Because altruism is truly what's best for you. You need more rationalism to compliment your egoism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499197198 132388515,132406097,2017-07-04 19:40:06,">>132405010 Sounds about right to me. But what is ""Objectivism>Libertarianism""",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499197206 132388515,132406112,2017-07-04 19:40:24,>>132405944,,Anonymous,arab_ball_daughters.png,mhxm6ScRET8Mtm4tAinaJA==,US,,1499197224 132388515,132406121,2017-07-04 19:40:29,">>132389045 (づ｡‿‿｡)づ “It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.’ But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.”",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499197229 132388515,132406126,2017-07-04 19:40:30,">>132406021 Regardless, It is the only one by name that I can find any value in (mainly because of that point)",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197230 132388515,132406136,2017-07-04 19:40:41,">>132406081 >Because altruism is truly what's best for you you just take it for granted and are unable to demonstrate and in the first place you don't know my values, i can be a fucked up reptilian",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1499197241 132388515,132406207,2017-07-04 19:41:30,">>132405665 Good advice. I get the Immpression your a good person.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499197290 132388515,132406223,2017-07-04 19:41:37,">>132405944 Your true leader literally enslaved and killed off people. Something I object to, be it done by Nazis or Saudis.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499197297 132388515,132406245,2017-07-04 19:41:49,">>132406136 >My values >Muh spooks Pick one huuurrr",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499197309 132388515,132406252,2017-07-04 19:41:52,">>132405716 alright, i'll do that my dude",,Anonymous,562844d68f9b2ea6a00f1e6705f54126.jpg,NOm0BOhezRR4N5vkiqQjTw==,GR,,1499197312 132388515,132406310,2017-07-04 19:42:32,">>132389828 ̿ ̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\з=(•_•)=ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿'̿ ̿",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197352 132388515,132406459,2017-07-04 19:44:06,">>132406207 I really don't care as long as you don't intend to harm me in anyway, hope you find something good luck.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197446 132388515,132406493,2017-07-04 19:44:26,">>132406112 this shit would happen today",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1499197466 132388515,132406571,2017-07-04 19:45:14,">>132405708 Minarchy sadly maintains the biggest danger to freedom: Res publicae. The notion that you have a say in the way something is administrated is only seen thanks to the public affair, within private property, the limits are clear, you have no say about what I do in my property so long as I don't force people to be in it. The moment people have the idea that they have a say over something that does not belong to them this will require democracy and the limits will need to be controlled ad-eternum which is impossible, war, conflict, the state will always come with ways to screw up your liberties ""temporarily"" and that will be the end. Did you know that income tax was introduced as a temporary measure for world war II? Heh, that's minarchy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197514 132388515,132406624,2017-07-04 19:45:45,">>132406097 Different standard of comparison. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk ALL Objectivists are technical Libertarians but not all Libertarians are Objectivists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499197545 132388515,132406651,2017-07-04 19:45:58,">>132406493 In brasil, when you find out that one of the daughters has a penis.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197558 132388515,132406969,2017-07-04 19:48:57,">>132405915 Nazism isn't a form of socialism. We just acknowledge that the greatest human achievements arise from large co-operating groups with a common goal of securing a future for their family and nation, rather than selfish atomized individuals obsessed solely with money and their ""rights"". Part of the reason autism is closely correlated with ancapism is autists feel disconnected from others and therefore co-operation and self-sacrifice is an alien concept to them. Mixed in with the millenial mantra of ""you can do anything!"" attitude leads to a toxic combination of isolation + inflated sense of self-worth. Naturally this combination leads to ancapism since the autist believes he will be at the top of the food chain by virtue of his perceived merits if ""true capitalism"" is embraced, and in doing so will be able to afford more consumer goods (as consumerism has conditioned him to worship and strive to obtain them in order to be happy)",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197737 132388515,132407185,2017-07-04 19:51:13,">>132406651 sure, just substitute 10 goats for 5 cows and RPG for hand grenade",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1499197873 132388515,132407340,2017-07-04 19:52:54,">>132406969 >(as consumerism has conditioned him to worship and strive to obtain them in order to be happy) keynesianism led to consumerism, because saving your capital is not worth it in the long term, which forces you to spend your money to gather material values, which over time conditioned the people to a degenerate lifestyle of high time preference. >>132407185 god bless brasil.",,Anonymous,dickg.jpg,eRFhfxjtKHrPnLsg16CZSA==,,,1499197974 132388515,132407373,2017-07-04 19:53:13,">>132406062 I already explained quite a few ways in which anarcho capitalism deals with degeneracy, violence, and so on, you're apparently not accepting my explanations but you're not specifying why you don't, or providing examples that were not covered or prevented by the logical conclusions I reached in my previous posts. There's no way we can continue that conversation unless you're willing to show me holes in my logic, without that, it all comes down to ""you're wrong"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1499197993 132388515,132407557,2017-07-04 19:55:22,">>132407373 I thought your argument boiled down to you can separate yourself from the degenerates. To me this assumes that they will then die out on there own, or your society will become so powerful it won't matter. I just don't accept that outcome as more than just an assumption.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499198122 132388515,132407559,2017-07-04 19:55:23,"happy burgerday y'alll could you imagine falling for someone with different opinions? i just had one of you guys spill their spaghetti in lengthy adoration and praise for me despite our differences(i'm somewhere between libertariansocialist/greenanarchist) and he's putting me on a pedestal and i am very confused and flattered. he wants to liberate this :3 but i think i am slowly converting him",,Anonymous,ffcb42f280b87d703d09aacc34e7d612.jpg,S64n6WJWJdOtZxakZ4GTbQ==,,,1499198123 132388515,132407581,2017-07-04 19:55:34,">>132392736 >hurr durr what's stopping a nation from esnlaving you?? i betcha you didn't think of that one, huh dumb ancap ha? >brb imma go work 6 months out of a year for the government for free, and then give 1% of my earnings to an unelected monarch, while they use that money to start wars that cause refugees, and then use the remaining of that money to displace me with said refugees.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198134 132388515,132407588,2017-07-04 19:55:39,">>132406969 Nice 6969 combo I am not an anarcho-capitalist and National Socialism is social by nature which I do enjoy the aspects of as it can advance a society. Unlike ancaps, I view a basic society as necessary in order to maintain the people and the economy. If you have a social organization which has competition which is shown give more people an incentive to do better, the end goals may be reasonably obtainable. Many people enter the business world with the hopes of gaining high profits so they can go on to support their families in the future and can feel like they are making their nation better. Constitutional rights (which should more important than just being a piece of paper that the government steps around) are an important foundation in allowing people to know that the government won't simply take everything they worked for to improve their life and their family and give it to someone else who ""needs it more"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198139 132388515,132407722,2017-07-04 19:56:50,">>132407559 If you think that you are converting him but he is actually knowledgeable, then the plan is going along well",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198210 132388515,132407752,2017-07-04 19:57:02,">>132406571 Then I might not be full on AnCap. I actually never thought I was. I believe in minimal localized governments. We need an army to keep out invasions. Can't have an army without an organized government. And crime, not all crimes is always done towards or inside property of others. It could literally happen on the street when no one is looking. If someone is found dead on the street, who is going to hunt down this killer? I don't like frontier justice. I want an unbiased, transparent and impartial police and justice system that works for everyone. For example. What if I kill a guest that I invited in my property own property? I don't mind death sentience, I just don't want mob justice or negligence of justice. Also without a minimal sort of government, who's to say your property belongs to you? If I actually managed to kill you and all your friends with an army that is following me and enslave all your women and take all your property, does that mean that property now belongs to me? I believe we need a sheriff and deputies, town hall for direct democracy at least.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499198222 132388515,132407792,2017-07-04 19:57:21,So why don't you guys just call it Anarcho-Capitalism general instead of pretending it's about Libertarianism more broadly?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499198241 132388515,132407892,2017-07-04 19:58:14,">>132407792 There's some monarchists here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499198294 132388515,132407961,2017-07-04 19:58:54,">>132407340 >keynesianism led to consumerism Capitalism is the cause of economic homeopathy like Keynsianism in the first place. You can't blame consumerism on post war keynsianism particularly as consumer culture accelerated most noticeably in the 1980s as the western world adopted laissez-faire monetarism. The profit motive drives consumerism, since there is maximal profit to be made from selling unnecessary goods with planned obselesence in a cycle. If you are an aspiring entrepreneur and cannot find a niche, you simply create one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198334 132388515,132408003,2017-07-04 19:59:15,I didnt knew that libertarians are right wing norbleft wing,,Anonymous,,,,,1499198355 132388515,132408013,2017-07-04 19:59:22,">>132407792 I am not an anarcho-capitalist but some people here are and Libertarianism encompasses many ideas",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198362 132388515,132408060,2017-07-04 19:59:51,">>132408003 what?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198391 132388515,132408067,2017-07-04 19:59:59,">>132407752 >We need an army to keep out invasions. Can't have an army without an organized government. Wrong. Read The Private Production of Defense, incentives don't work very well for states attacking stateless populations.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1499198399 132388515,132408087,2017-07-04 20:00:06,">>132406969 You are socialists, just that you are socialists for whites. You are way closer to the left then anywhere in the center. And you are closer to totalitarianism then libertarianism. Admit that and I can take it seriously. The fact that you believe regular Germans were allowed guns and their property is laughable.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499198406 132388515,132408267,2017-07-04 20:01:58,">>132408067 There will always be people who invade for domination.",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499198518 132388515,132408400,2017-07-04 20:03:04,">>132408060 He was born that way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198584 132388515,132408442,2017-07-04 20:03:24,">>132408087 >The fact that you believe regular Germans were allowed guns and their property is laughable. Gun rules were relaxed for regular Germans and tightened for jews. Try again. I'm not even a 14/88er but this flag most closely represents my beliefs and I will defend NatSocs when idiots spout meme history they learned from Alex Jones.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198604 132388515,132408452,2017-07-04 20:03:31,">>132408267 Yes, most of them go into the government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198611 132388515,132408508,2017-07-04 20:04:01,">>132408400 I assumed by that flag. I think the best option now is to just put it down. We can't let it suffer.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198641 132388515,132408545,2017-07-04 20:04:21,">>132407961 Yes but the attitude to buy unnessesary comes from within oneself, but humans live in a society in which values are around depending on the culture you are in they can variate but you always have a leading culture and you absorb their values if you live in that society, many atheist nowadays still live buy european or christian values even if they denounce it. so what is your nation worth if you need a state to regulate their behaviour, you end up with a degenerate biomass of subhumans which can only be restricted by force. but the goal should be to raise once society/nation/race to higher levels.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198661 132388515,132408614,2017-07-04 20:05:00,">>132408013 >some It feels like the great majority are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499198700 132388515,132408701,2017-07-04 20:05:40,">>132408267 Don't you believe this is predictable and insurance companies will do all they can to protect its citizens? Not only that, but the population would have more guns than usual, literally impossible to take over.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1499198740 132388515,132408761,2017-07-04 20:06:14,">>132408442 Did they take guns away from those who didn't support the government?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198774 132388515,132408847,2017-07-04 20:07:03,">>132406969 Oh REALLY faggot? Nazism isn't a part of socialism? NAationalsoZIalistische deutsche arbeiterpartei wasn't sxoialist. >B-but muh Hitler said that he identified his socialism as opposed to Marx. S-so it's good And Hitler didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. No numbnuts being opposed to Marx doesn't magically make you right. And his use of ""oppose"" was a lie: NatSoc was in competition with Communism, not opposed to it. Only Capitalism can do that. Dumbfuck Hitler would have unwittingly paved the way for GloSoc if he had won so thank fuck he didn't. And don't fucking tell me how impressed you are with his romanticism of the patriotic Man. I don't give a shit, irrelevant. Hitler Nationalism was a psuedo Nationalism of the Mystic variety Rand describe. Your next move will be to call Rand a kike and/or Capitalism a shekel-rubbing scheme.",,Anonymous,ECfq6fq_d.jpg,ncXnvx0Y+ePKl0A38+yMmg==,US,,1499198823 132388515,132408870,2017-07-04 20:07:21,">>132408614 I was pretending that I am not in the minority ideology here but you are probably right I enjoy having a wide variety of viewpoints (including ones that oppose my own) so I can strengthen or better my own views",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198841 132388515,132408912,2017-07-04 20:07:46,">>132408442 I was a natsoc when I was young, and at the time I came into contact with them I was a full blown socialist, I even read everything from the leftwing of the nsdap, so the socialist part is not only a meme. but I have to admit there are people from the party I still like and will defend like rudel or hess. also the swastika is still important as a religious symbol to me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499198866 132388515,132409151,2017-07-04 20:09:58,What's the difference between SJW and Hoppeans? Both of y'alll want to stomp on free speech and live in ideologically homogenous bubbles.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499198998 132388515,132409189,2017-07-04 20:10:23,">>132408847 >rambling marxist bullshit chillax dude, go stand in a breadline for bernie or something and calm down. and yes hitler was a socialist that gave everyone in germany a """"""""""""free"""""""""""""""" radio.",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,wtpdhCcgfUsUVhts6bkkcw==,,,1499199023 132388515,132409391,2017-07-04 20:12:20,">>132409151 I am not a Hoppean but technically the SJWs could go have their own covenant communities if they wish to maintain their views. It is what they want after all, isn't it? They clearly would eat themselves like a snake eating its own tail. Of course, that is depending on who you ask how covenant communities could work a a theoretical Hoppean society",,Anonymous,,,,,1499199140 132388515,132409614,2017-07-04 20:14:43,">>132408847 The Nazis used socialist propaganda and had some aspects of a welfare state, for whites. However, there was no state ownership of the means of production in Nazi Germany, therefore it wasn't socialism. In fact, capitalism did rather well. Please do some historical research next time before you peddle the age old line of ""NAZIS WERE LEFT WING SOCIALISTS!"" National Socialism: People working for the good of the country with profits going to the owners of companies, driven by the needs of the state with all conflict between classes suppressed by a heavy-handed state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499199283 132388515,132409723,2017-07-04 20:15:51,">>132408847 >Hitler Nationalism was a psuedo Nationalism it was the last form of leading a already decaying biomass, race is more than just dna, without the spiritual part it is just keeping the dna alive. I also think the socialism in the name was to gather the masses for the vote, which led of course to socialists flooding the party and they influenced it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499199351 132388515,132409971,2017-07-04 20:18:09,">>132408701 Insurance companies try their hardest to get your month subscription and not cash out as much as they can. It's pretty much scam if there is no oversight. And you under estimate the power of bombardment. You need to see things in a bigger scope. There are things called weapons of mass destruction. And I don't trust in the sanity of everyone to have their own WMD if they can. Hell if I hard access to huge army of mercs and weapons till the moon, I will kill every Muslim and raze Mecca. I'd even kill my family if they don't reject Islam. >>132408442 Yeah, no. Guns were taken from every civilian. >>132408452 What do you mean?",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499199489 132388515,132409997,2017-07-04 20:18:24,">>132409614 Weren't most of the corporations state-owned?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499199504 132388515,132410006,2017-07-04 20:18:28,">>132409614 >National Socialism: People working for the good of the country with profits going to the owners of companies, driven by the needs of the state with all conflict between classes suppressed by a heavy-handed state. so facism then? big whoop, same strong centralized government bullshit. you can put dressing on a turd, it's still a turd.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499199508 132388515,132410022,2017-07-04 20:18:36,">>132409614 the state could seize your land if you don't use it for anything, they see as productive. like having land and don't use it for farming and just have it as valuable land. it is a point in the party program and was officially there to prevent price speculations of land.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499199516 132388515,132410118,2017-07-04 20:19:30,">>132388515 Just cruising by. AnCaps are retarded. Libertarianationalism is literally the only way to live free or die. Good luck faggots.",,Anonymous,1453095756767.jpg,kIu04ElaAHFcioWORU2K7A==,,,1499199570 132388515,132410345,2017-07-04 20:21:50,">>132409971 >And I don't trust in the sanity of everyone to have their own WMD if they can. This would be retarded. Private defense also means private regulation, I could, for example, own a tank but buy a nuke at the grocery store because that puts everyone in danger. Only big companies with agreed upon regulation could own this sort of thing.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1499199710 132388515,132410372,2017-07-04 20:22:03,">>132409189 >marxist Did you just vomit that out without thinking? Objectivists like me despise Marx. My implication was that Hilter's """"opposition"""" to Marx was half baked and wnot as well borne out as our criticism. At the end of the day Hitler was just a filthy socialist. What ever in the fuck do you mean that my prose was ""rambling marxist bullshit""?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499199723 132388515,132410471,2017-07-04 20:23:03,">>132410118 This. LfCap>AnCap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499199783 132388515,132410481,2017-07-04 20:23:07,">>132410372 >Did you just vomit that out without thinking? pretty much, your post was way too long to read.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499199787 132388515,132410600,2017-07-04 20:24:13,">>132410372 >Objectivists like me Kek. Must admit I do remember reading Atlas Shrugged as an edgy teen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499199853 132388515,132410677,2017-07-04 20:24:49,">>132410372 >filthy socialist Meant to say *statist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499199889 132388515,132411156,2017-07-04 20:29:29,">>132409971 >Yeah, no. Guns were taken from every civilian Whatever you say Sheikh >>132409997 Corporations and companies remained privately owned. Of course, they recieved many government contracts especially when German became a fully fledged war economy. Big profits were made by Volkswagen, Krupp steel etc, even foreign corporations like Ford and IBM made money selling products and services to Germany. >>132410006 >strong centralized government Strong government is a good thing. Countries with weak governments tend to get taken over pretty quickly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499200169 132388515,132411188,2017-07-04 20:29:43,">>132410600 That's all you got skipper? till not an argument. And her fiction was merely a mechanism for her philosophy that essentially ammounted to ""John Galt is bretty cool"". Argumentatively I come more from ""The Virtue of Selfishness"" and ""Capitalism The Unknown Ideal"". Adamantine clad and as-of-yet unassaiable. I have yet to encounter an argument against these two masterworks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499200183 132388515,132411518,2017-07-04 20:33:25,">>132411156 I have looked into it before. Wasn't Volkswagen owned by a union, or was that only during its conception? I do know that Coca-Cola eventually bought out Fanta as well and profited off of that company I do also like the story of Adidas though (which was privately owned)",,Anonymous,,,,,1499200405 132388515,132411523,2017-07-04 20:33:27,">>132410345 Who is going to regulate them and enforce that regulation?",,Anonymous,,,SA,,1499200407 132388515,132411605,2017-07-04 20:34:20,">>132411156 >Strong government is a good thing. Countries with weak governments tend to get taken over pretty quickly. Yeah, totally. I mean look at that place Switzerland, most de-centralized government on the planet today. They probably get taken over every 10 years by a different ruler.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499200460 132388515,132411671,2017-07-04 20:35:01,">>132411156 >Of course, they recieved many government contracts so who paid the companies. also the führer gave everyone work if he wanted to work, but who paid for the jobs and if a strong government prevents occupation, how you explain the outcome for germany then?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499200501 132388515,132411991,2017-07-04 20:38:14,">>132411188 I'd postulate Ayn Rand and Nietzsche are the most potent philosophical drugs on an impressionable young mind, especially a young white man. I can say this from first hand experience, since I fell down the Nietzsche rabbit hole from a ripe age of 16, though I do not look back on those years with great fondness. That said, I personally find Rand's work absolutely devoid of the sophistication, wit and insight of Nietzsche's.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499200694 132388515,132412203,2017-07-04 20:40:34,">>132411523 USB is a standard that was invented by private companies. This shows us that companies operating in the same area can colaborate. If nukes are needed for defense, companies will compete and to not go MAD, they will assure that they are following the rules. The clients will also chose that that has a way of assuring that shit is not going to happen unless necessary. They'd monitor if a certain individual is doing something like that in his backyard because that could be really dangerous. It is in no companies or clients interest a nuke lauched for no purpose. There's no chance this wouldn't happen without previous commitments.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1499200834 132388515,132412278,2017-07-04 20:41:19,">>132409189 About your pic For you who have to build roads, private corporations? Explain to me I want to know",,Anonymous,,,,,1499200879 132388515,132412398,2017-07-04 20:42:42,">>132410118 >just crusing It shows. Read Hoppe, I guarantee it'll resonate in you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499200962 132388515,132412685,2017-07-04 20:45:50,">>132411605 I don't think it's worth my effort explaining the numerous reasons Switzerland isn't being invaded by its neighbours, though I urge you to think for a moment why, if you were a country, it would not be in your interests to invade a neigbouring country. I assure you they won't have much to do with free markets, and a lot to do with governments, and in Switzerland's case, banking. I appreciate your attempt at a sarcastic knockout blow, but it appears you unwittingly argued in favor of globalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201150 132388515,132412782,2017-07-04 20:46:46,">>132412278 Roads allow for easy travel which is in high demand from people across the world. In my state, many logging companies have private roads and trails all across the state which they allow people to drive on. These roads are maintained with profits from the companies, donations, etc. If we are talking about a large scale, they would be maintained by those who are looking to maintain their road systems so they will continue to be able to travel.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201206 132388515,132412853,2017-07-04 20:47:33,"Anyone of you bois know about Sovereign Man (aka Simon Black) So far I think he's the most valuable ancap to look at, his posts are usual at zerohedge so you might have read him a shame his content is locked behind +900$/year paywall If none of you don't, damn sons, why are you woke then, just to be depressed?",,Anonymous,paper_kek.gif,Tp427/QnH24/PJIOTnbzgQ==,,,1499201253 132388515,132412937,2017-07-04 20:48:30,">>132411605 Furthermore Switzerland is an extra-special cherry picked example and you know it, since even over the past several hundred years when countless small European states fought one another, Switzerland remained relatively intact thanks to geography and its aggressively neutral stance.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201310 132388515,132412949,2017-07-04 20:48:36,">>132409151 SJW want to use the state to enforce their ideology. If they succeeded, you would go to jail for using the wrong pronouns or for not hiring a trans person, for example Hoppean covenant-based communities are voluntary communities; if you like the rules/laws it has, cool, maybe you'll be able to join. If you don't like it, you're free to go. If you don't like it and yet you refuse to go, you'll be physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201316 132388515,132413070,2017-07-04 20:49:46,">>132412853 I'd rather not pay $900+ to simply hear someone speak when I have access to cheaper/free resources through the internet and local libraries. If he does have some free demo content, I would be willing to look into it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201386 132388515,132413099,2017-07-04 20:50:00,">>132412937 Austria invaded switzerland and they fought us back in a bloody war, that is even the myth on what the eidgenossenschaft is based on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201400 132388515,132413128,2017-07-04 20:50:18,">>132412782 Do you make libertarian threads everyday? I just have to search the word ""libertarian"" to find it in the catalog?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201418 132388515,132413198,2017-07-04 20:51:08,">>132412937 >Switzerland remained relatively intact thanks to geography and its aggressively neutral stance. Thanks to it's de-centralized government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201468 132388515,132413203,2017-07-04 20:51:10,">>132413128 I don't make the threads, I just like to join them since I am not on /pol/ every day.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201470 132388515,132413223,2017-07-04 20:51:24,">>132412949 Good thing right wing has never used the state to push their ideology. Except for every single fucking right wing government ever. At least make a valid argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499201484 132388515,132413306,2017-07-04 20:52:17,">>132413198 Geography does give the Swiss a massive advantage when it comes to defending. That and their well-armed populous which is educated with firearms and a culture which doesn't breed stupidity with violence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201537 132388515,132413354,2017-07-04 20:52:48,">>132413223 When did he say that they didn't?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201568 132388515,132413358,2017-07-04 20:52:49,">>132413223 >At least make a valid argument. Speaking for yourself? Where the fuck did I make a case for current right wing governments?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201569 132388515,132413375,2017-07-04 20:53:03,The book Economics in one lesson is a libertarian read?,,Anonymous,,,,,1499201583 132388515,132413380,2017-07-04 20:53:09,">>132411991 Have you read HER critiscisms of Nietzsche? And fullstop; a postulation is an assertion of the axiomatic kind. I will now demand you explain, how you reason out and your basis for, this axiom. >on an impressionable young mind, especially a young white man This is a well-known leftist tactic regarding Rand specifically. Unique to her in fact. Borne out of Commies' gut wrenching realization that Objectivism is the greatest threat they have ever encountered. As it represents the American Constiution epistemologically completed; the rejection of the primordial evil that is Altrusim that it lacked. You cement my paranoia (yes I admit it is just a paranoia) that there exists in sharblue and company a NatSoc shilling pillar. What I just did was potentially commit a fallacy so by all means; explain how I did. If I did.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499201589 132388515,132413504,2017-07-04 20:54:34,">>132412853 This guy is the best ancap I know. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnL00qrAdEH4yosYTbgNVlw",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1499201674 132388515,132413786,2017-07-04 20:57:35,">>132412949 >Hoppean covenant-based communities are voluntary communities; I don't understand how or why independent communities are inherenetly ""Hoppean"" or anything else for that matter. If the government dissapeared, anarchism would simply take its course. What special provisions does each respective form of anarchism make to ensure its particular ideal comes to fruition? Or is Hoppe simply presenting his prediction for how Anarchism would transpire? In which case his and anarchist thought from across the spectrum is rather superfluous, don't you think?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499201855 132388515,132414016,2017-07-04 21:00:12,">>132413375 Could you respond this guys?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499202012 132388515,132414365,2017-07-04 21:03:50,">>132413070 he's educating about so many stuff, his podcast at least are worth it, if you like molymemes, he's just way more based and pragmatic and also leaking his new found gems for risk-safe decent investments and other kind of opportunities/foundings to save your back and enjoy the decline, and it's great, for real It's so well founded the shit pays for itself in a year if you have 8k to invest, it's outside mainstream markets no ancaps are really making plans to improve your life for real outside of vague stuff he's like the god tier of a prepper here's the marketing >Take advantage of investment opportunities around the world that generate exceptional returns while taking minimal risk >Legitimately save tens of thousands of dollars in taxes with simple no-brainer strategies >Protect the assets, you’ve worked all your life for, from financial crisis and frivolous litigation >Obtain a second passport (potentially for free) that will provide you the lifelong benefit of more options to live, work, invest, travel, and do business around the world. >Live a luxurious and worry-free lifestyle overseas that would be unaffordable elsewhere >And many more… lel, but it's kinda true just testing the waters if there's anyone else interested like me, so we can make a split deal and leech on it for cheaper kek",,Anonymous,1492033779929.png,yB728cAzZ+9Vv0g7/4jkag==,,,1499202230 132388515,132414590,2017-07-04 21:06:28,">>132413786 It's just semantics, really. Obviously, no libertarian would say that civilization doesn't need some sort of order/rules/codes/etc. In the case of Hoppe, he proposes covenant-based communities. People with similar ideas and objectives (and most likely, from the same culture and ethnic group) associate to form their own set of rules over a certain territory. Thus you would get communities that are maybe more socially liberal, communties that are Muslim-only, Gay-only, Christian-only, communities that say ""no communists"", ""no bums"", and so on. Nothing new, really. You could say that's how people lived together hundreds of years ago",,Anonymous,,,,,1499202388 132388515,132414644,2017-07-04 21:07:05,">>132414365 fun plot twist >Obtain a second passport ...did you know..? one option is turning jewish, to judaism, just to get Israel citizienship after the period and process top kek",,Anonymous,jew-pepe.jpg,EhmvhoPIMc3L9j+RqPSFVQ==,,,1499202425 132388515,132414968,2017-07-04 21:11:09,">>132414365 It does sound interesting even though I don't consider myself an anarcho-capitalist. I may check out some of his work and look into it. I am not sure if I will end up paying for anything but I am interested for sure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499202669 132388515,132415010,2017-07-04 21:11:41,">>132414590 You could even say that's kinda how the US started",,Anonymous,1490806191861.jpg,uB5q7dCHJFXNAzsb7NODfQ==,,,1499202701 132388515,132415039,2017-07-04 21:12:00,">>132414590 >Nothing new, really. You could say that's how people lived together hundreds of years ago The problem I have with this is that a government filled the vacuum every time throughout history. I believe government is inevitable. I don't see how reverting to anarchism would not simply restart the historical evolution through tribalism, feudalism, imperialism and so on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499202720 132388515,132415432,2017-07-04 21:16:35,">>132414968 there's lot of free content youtube channel (he quitted updating new podcast over there) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQAaYl8kUxg All his free stuff https://www.sovereignman.com/learn-more/ I mean, his free stuff is already mindblowing, I got in touch with his content like months ago and I'm amaced he's so unpopular so far",,Anonymous,1488655133233.jpg,SaOzzo+uaS/MIu5m9Ov3vw==,,,1499202995 132388515,132415846,2017-07-04 21:21:26,">>132415432 Ill have to add that to my watch later and the other to my read later bookmark folder. Thanks for the links.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499203286 132388515,132415917,2017-07-04 21:22:27,"he took together nigel farage, peter schift and ron paul https://youtu.be/UZap5n3zGZ8?t=1m35s",,Anonymous,1498685176929.jpg,fjFzfhQMQnK3e52CKLVxnw==,,,1499203347 132388515,132416439,2017-07-04 21:28:19,">>132414590 >Obviously, no libertarian would say that civilization doesn't need some sort of order/rules/codes/etc. No true scotsman. Yes infact wome Libertarisn DO actually beleive that. This is where the empolying to Objectivism v creed-Libertarianism (as opposed to 'Libertarian' used as a classifier) and Minarchism v Anarchism comes into play.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499203699 132541315,132541315,2017-07-05 19:52:49,"Frederic Bastiat — 'Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.' This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. This includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, and right wing reactionism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional values. Although questions are welcome, nobody here is obligated to argue with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: discord gg jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_lrg.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,GB,,1499284369 132541315,132541541,2017-07-05 19:54:50,Hail /lrg/ glory to our people! Send r/Libertarians back!,,Anonymous,1493072896393.png,QvWanOjwZGA8aHq3aZHvMA==,US,,1499284490 132541315,132541796,2017-07-05 19:57:02,Crypto leftists must go back!,,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1499284622 132541315,132541887,2017-07-05 19:57:54,Aggression against communists is not aggression at all!,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1499284674 132541315,132542031,2017-07-05 19:59:01,Now this is my board...,,Anonymous,,,,,1499284741 132541315,132542250,2017-07-05 20:01:01,">>132542031 Yeah motherfuckers, give me your propaganda and your memes my brother.",,Anonymous,IMG_0702.png,0FdWLWHDvNy3xtKVjNTtHQ==,US,,1499284861 132541315,132542438,2017-07-05 20:02:29,"ANCAP TRAP THREADS WHEN?!?!?! > human action = the fulcrum between the natural and rational > antrap action = the respite between the eternal vagina and the mgtow wizardfest >QED I've been reading up lads, it's been awesome so far... I've never been interested in any philosophy before.",,Anonymous,Jessica_Valle_12_travesti_Barcelona.jpg,q8cMZJHE77VkoViEri4wPw==,,,1499284949 132541315,132542486,2017-07-05 20:02:53,"Fuck off /acg/, /lrg/ is the only place a reasonable ancap would go",,Anonymous,1492792405738.jpg,2erqFoRnh6YXAAwueHRKiw==,BR,,1499284973 132541315,132542600,2017-07-05 20:03:58,P*leo plebs?Not in my cunt!,,Anonymous,,,,,1499285038 132541315,132542706,2017-07-05 20:04:48,"How do we take back the libertarian name from memertarians like Reason Magazine and Gary MaryJaneson? Is Hoppe our last Hope?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499285088 132541315,132542796,2017-07-05 20:05:33,hi,,Anonymous,,,,,1499285133 132541315,132543247,2017-07-05 20:09:49,">>132542438 Get lost faggot, you meant to post on /acg/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499285389 132541315,132543324,2017-07-05 20:10:28,">>132542600 Also a faggot, you belong with AnCap traps fag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499285428 132541315,132543438,2017-07-05 20:11:28,">>132542706 Hoppe and /lrg/ are the last stand for real Libertarians.",,Anonymous,so_the_way_to_smash_the_state_is_1488.png,JmegHouDXnf7myqXj23S9Q==,US,,1499285488 132541315,132543554,2017-07-05 20:12:30,">>132543247 I did get lost a bit, but this has been the location of my previous posts anyway. I meant ""TRAP HAREMS"" by the way, not ""TRAP THREADS"", y'all carry on :) >keep up the struggle /lrg/",,Anonymous,342717-1.jpg,hw4zOcSROBmgwWbfBITkjg==,,,1499285550 132541315,132543725,2017-07-05 20:14:08,cringe,,Anonymous,,,,,1499285648 132541315,132543732,2017-07-05 20:14:11,"https://pastebin.com/XcaxKX2Z Can I get some help with this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1499285651 132541315,132544212,2017-07-05 20:18:33,">>132543554 Go over to /acg/ those libertiens will give you a fair hearing. I don't want any part of your homoism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499285913 132541315,132544264,2017-07-05 20:18:58,">>132541315 property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional values. WTF? Traditional values in anarchy? as if. For me anyway, anarcho capitalism is the default. If you take away government people will start trading to get the things they need. 'Traditional values' aren't inherite at all. Anarchy is great because the government cant tell you what to do.",,Naga Sake,,,,,1499285938 132541315,132544453,2017-07-05 20:20:46,">>132544264 I agree with the first part, but traditional values are in fact natural, only government intervention can cause 'moral decay'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1499286046 132541315,132544509,2017-07-05 20:21:17,">>132544212 why the fuck ancaps are making their own threads is beyond me, defeats their purpose IMO. Huebro is right >>132542486, come to think of it",,Anonymous,,,,,1499286077 132541315,132544680,2017-07-05 20:22:49,">libertarian right >trumpkin faggot with buyer's remorse fuck off normie",,Anonymous,garyrevenge.jpg,pX+RqqAfovSwR0ENsIAozQ==,,,1499286169 132541315,132545035,2017-07-05 20:26:14,>>132544680,,Anonymous,lowquob8no.png,h9YaVlj+lED8mE6llqAH8Q==,GB,,1499286374 132541315,132545410,2017-07-05 20:29:39,">>132544453 I think that's completely wrong, traditional values (If we're thinking of the same 'woman's role is in the home, nuclear family, only straight people' values) where enforced by government for a long time, with only straight marriage and alot of older governments being theocracies. I think that if people have the freedom to decide what to do in their life that we'll have all sorts of different people living different lives. I for one want to be a stay at home husband, with my wife making the money and me taking care of the house and any children we have. while we can still do that nowadays, my point is that in a world with no government people wouldn't immediately fall into any specific values. Some poeple might, and they should be allowed, but there's no way you could say everyone would.",,Naga Sake,,,,,1499286579 132541315,132545695,2017-07-05 20:32:13,"Can I have my Civic Nationalist beliefs in /lrg/? I want a world that only support those who actually try to better themselves but remove all the faggots that encourage negativity. Such as being a black and hating niggerdom has showed me that there is no one more holding back then your own kind. I just want a society of respect and tolerance and working towards the goal of improving the community for the better of the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499286733 132541315,132546076,2017-07-05 20:35:36,">>132545695 >for the better of the state",,Naga Sake,syndrome-dense-incredibles.jpg,IerNpF2W4C0mqsdPMg553w==,,,1499286936 132541315,132547407,2017-07-05 20:48:16,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1499287696 132541315,132548074,2017-07-05 20:54:28,>>132544680,,Anonymous,fuck off.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,,,1499288068 132541315,132549688,2017-07-05 21:09:32,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499288972 132541315,132550480,2017-07-05 21:17:48,">>132545695 read Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499289468 132541315,132550955,2017-07-05 21:22:21,"/lrg/ is based as an argumentative aggregate, but Libertarianism is incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk Objectivism is Nationalist, Capitalist, Individualist, Egoist, Libertarian, Minarchist, and Meritocratic all rolled into one. Reminder that all these smear attempts by commie, cyrpto-commie, and NatSoc shills of Ayn Rand are borne out of their gut wrenching realization that Objectivism is the greatest threat they have ever encountered which is why they cannot even bear to have it discussed as a philosophy. ALL of the andversaries she descibes in her novels are EXACTLY what /pol/ describes as the sterotypical kike. Kikes exist but Rand is quite literally the most based jew to ever live. I do not exaggerate. Reminder that Cultural Marxists are terrified of Ayn Rand as she represents the American Constution completed. Epistemologically validated, metaphysically defined, and ethically expanded. Debate me.",,Anonymous,1489715813327.png,v8f+mzptezSyNQ3mCRBl7A==,US,,1499289741 132541315,132551055,2017-07-05 21:23:10,"Libertarians are such crypto-kikes Day of the tread when?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499289790 132541315,132551251,2017-07-05 21:24:52,">>132551055 >says the communist >most jewish ideology",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1499289892 132541315,132551476,2017-07-05 21:26:52,"Reminder that AnCapism means well and is certainly preferable to statism but is utterly inferior to Laissez-faire Capitalism. LfCap>AnCap for the same reason Minarchism>Anarchism and that is because objective law>polycentric law. Read a little of this lexicon to discover why http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anarchism.html Now that we have flags (I do not like the notion) I wish Objectivism had a flag. >""We take as our symbol the moral of the $"" Something along those lines. Personally I would do a white dollar on black background as I have a boner for minimalism and monochromatic shit.",,Anonymous,1497141679894.png,GwLsV8x1jBvWsD4RCHf9Cw==,US,,1499290012 132541315,132551666,2017-07-05 21:28:40,">>132550955 Objectivism is libertarianism; there's no meaningful distinction.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499290120 132541315,132551962,2017-07-05 21:31:27,">>132551476 >LfCap>AnCap >capitalism>capitalism Capitalism in an anarchist society would be laissez-faire, so your distinction is meaningless.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499290287 132541315,132552171,2017-07-05 21:33:46,">>132551251 Nazbols are proud enemies of the Jews Also >capitalism >not full of and promoted by jews Jews are the biggest promoters of both communism and capitalism. it's somewhat of a paradox really",,Anonymous,,,,,1499290426 132541315,132552242,2017-07-05 21:34:28,">>132551666 That video describes the distinction. Libertarians postulate THAT freedom, liberty, productiveness, ect are king but not epistemologically and metaphysically WHY. Objectivism completes it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499290468 132541315,132552633,2017-07-05 21:38:29,">>132552171 Read Rand's ""Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal"". I guarantee it will hard-convert you.",,Anonymous,1484502193128.jpg,rm5rxPPzcw75zYnd3cSHTA==,US,,1499290709 132541315,132552768,2017-07-05 21:39:48,">>132552242 so you're saying that you're a libertarian that uses epistemology. I really see a huge difference there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499290788 132541315,132553961,2017-07-05 21:51:14,">>132552768 Skipper Libertarians that don't consider epistemology frequently get embarrassed by the more insidious leftists that known how to twist their verbiage around to trap oppoents. Offtimes Libertarians unwitttingly accpet a collectivist's premises without realizing they are and their argument becomes doomed from the start. All because they lack the 3 pillars of ethics, metaphysics, and epistemology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499291474 132541315,132554835,2017-07-05 21:59:38,"Hey boyos, I'm trying to make an a priori argument for why homosexuals should never be in a position of power. I'm going off Hoppe's idea of homosexuals (like Keynes) not planning for the future, but I spent the last few minutes drawing a huge blank. If anyone would like to help me, this is all I came up with: Let the following be true: A homosexual only experiences sexual attraction to those of the opposite sex. Time preference is the valuation given to a good/service received at an earlier date as opposed to a later date; one who has a ""high time preference"" would rather receive something sooner than later. The following statements can then be made: An honest homosexual will never enter into a sexual relationship with someone of the opposite sex, because he/she would not have any sexual incentive to do so. Therefore, an honest homosexual will never copulate. Therefore, an honest homosexual will never have children. My problem is that I cannot make a rational determination of high time preference from here. (Also, I still only know some basic-bitch philosophy, so if this seems weak that's why.)",,Anonymous,confedracy.png,52CxPl87/7OEY9ES9pFoJw==,,,1499291978 132541315,132554892,2017-07-05 22:00:06,">>132551962 LfCap is to Minarchism what AnCap is to Anarchism. That is my distiction",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499292006 132541315,132555029,2017-07-05 22:01:21,"The dreaded, horrible secret that academic philosophers face (and why they do not even allow the notion of Objectivism as a philosophy) is that Objectism is not -a- Philosophy but THE Philosophy. Hers holds the particular distinction of being the first ever formulated META-Philosophy. And psudeo-intellectuals the world over are perpetually butthurt over this incontrovertible fact. Yes fact, I do not exaggerate. Including it among their other disaparate half formed, half actualized ""philosophies"", they find it eats everything it comes into contact with. This disrupts their vested interest in keeping a fanciful salad-esque collection of philosophies to catalog away and do nothing objectively meritous with it on their own terms. Despite what these sorts of people would have to say it isn't Ayn Rand but academia as it stands that is ""the joke"". >The highest tribute to Ayn Rand, is that her critics must distort everything that she stood for in order to attack her. She advocated reason, not force; the individual’s rights to freedom of action, speech, and association; self-responsibility not self-indulgence, and a live-and-let-live society in which each individual is treated as an END, not the MEANS of others’ ends. How many critics would dare to honestly state these ideas, & say “..and that’s what I reject?” .Barbara Branden",,Anonymous,1499293347643.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1499292081 132541315,132555159,2017-07-05 22:02:27,Hello fellas!,,Anonymous,ancap andy.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,PT,,1499292147 132541315,132555284,2017-07-05 22:03:37,">>132554835 They are like Jews the promote other fags they dick into places of power and it becomes a gay cabal >example the Vatican",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499292217 132541315,132555344,2017-07-05 22:04:10,keep up the good work lads,,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1499292250 132541315,132555540,2017-07-05 22:06:02,reminder that /acg or whatever is probably an impostor and we must not tolerate the existence of democrats and communists in our /lrg/ of peace.,,Anonymous,lrg vs lp.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,PT,,1499292362 132541315,132555598,2017-07-05 22:06:32,">>132555344 Anatomy of the State was a simple and elegant read about the State, truly up there with the Declaration of Independence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499292392 132541315,132555988,2017-07-05 22:10:02,">>132542486 >>132543247 >>132555540 wtf is /acg/? >>132555598 agreed. absolutely fantastic and concise 60 pages",,Anonymous,1497926376154.jpg,Lw+bQoK4o77kehdqxC3ipA==,US,,1499292602 132541315,132556110,2017-07-05 22:11:05,">>132555988 They're having an /anarcho-capitalist general/ now. I don't know who made it. Probably not one of us.",,Anonymous,ron paul.jpg,i/IOseQvzNrl9iD6aZRNvg==,PT,,1499292665 132541315,132556236,2017-07-05 22:12:14,">>132556110 jesus christ how horrifying. It's like the Libertarian Party cucking our good name all over again the commies must be behind this",,Anonymous,1494208883324.jpg,L/YzSozFCCGI9+Xx5pgNNw==,US,,1499292734 132541315,132556366,2017-07-05 22:13:32,">>132556236 There's also that faggot leaf accusing Hoppe of being a communist. What the fuck is wrong with these people, who pays them?!",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,nvAfsdmLwP6Op/ThDMYU3g==,PT,,1499292812 132541315,132556416,2017-07-05 22:13:54,"If one thinks anarcho-capitalism/voluntaryism/NAP is the ideal society and that it is achievable, but not on large scale for another 100 to 500 years (a generational project), then what does that make one in terms of political labels? I know it would be considered libertarian but anything more specific? Like Miniminarchist? Libertarian Realist? Anarcho-Practicalist? Deconstructionist? Agorist? Paleo-Liberal? Any suggestions or thoughts on the matter?",,Autonomous,,,US,,1499292834 132541315,132556568,2017-07-05 22:15:21,">>132556416 Paleo-libertarian would be the closest. Although I like the term Restorationist.",,Anonymous,physical awoo.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,PT,,1499292921 132541315,132556716,2017-07-05 22:16:48,">>132556366 >leaf every time. God fucking damn it we need helirake ride",,Anonymous,1495835380048.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1499293008 132541315,132557208,2017-07-05 22:21:12,">>132556568 >Restorationist. I like the sound of it. But what is it you would say you are trying to restore?",,Autonomous,,,US,,1499293272 132541315,132557483,2017-07-05 22:23:41,">>132557208 The ""natural order"" as understood by Hoppe: the recognition of private property and natural rights as the ultimate source of moral judgement and Justice, and the restoration of property rights (freedom of association, of trade, of migration) to their rightful owners. And throw in the expulsion of homos and other dregs since they are anomalies of the statist system. see pic",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,PT,,1499293421 132541315,132558291,2017-07-05 22:30:57,">>132556416 >If one thinks anarcho-capitalism/voluntaryism/NAP is the ideal society and that it is achievable, but not on large scale for another 100 to 500 years (a generational project), then what does that make one in terms of political labels? I know it would be considered libertarian but anything more specific? Like Miniminarchist? Libertarian Realist? Anarcho-Practicalist? Deconstructionist? Agorist? Paleo-Liberal? >Any suggestions or thoughts on the matter? I want to add to this to clarify because this would mean political action must be taken towards the goal of abolishing the state. Which would go against carrying the label of anarchist. For instance, in an election between a libertarian and totalitarian, it would be wise if you want a more free nation to vote for the libertarian, but you are voting. Or being a Ron Paul who philosophically is Rothbardian but worked in gov in order to help dismantle gov. So can one be AnCap and still engage in politics and support minarchy if the end goal is anarchy?",,Autonomous,pol spectrum.png,CLe8g50CyHO5lt8gK4rDYQ==,US,,1499293857 132541315,132558349,2017-07-05 22:31:30,">>132557483 http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/05/hoppe-on-covenant-communities/",,Anonymous,1494413576178.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,CL,,1499293890 132541315,132558806,2017-07-05 22:35:30,">>132558349 >I think of this as in the case of a priest: he lives in a primarily family-based, procreative culture. Yet he is himself celibate and does not procreate. However, he is not going around advocating that no one procreate, that everyone be celibate like him. If he did, he would in fact be advocating something misanthropic and destructive of mankind itself. Rather, he is a special case and lives within a predominately family-based heterosexual society; and he does not condemn heterosexual marriage and procreation; far from it, he supports it. Perfect analogy.",,Anonymous,Hoppe God_00000.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,PT,,1499294130 132541315,132559116,2017-07-05 22:37:52,">>132558291 >So can one be AnCap and still engage in politics and support minarchy if the end goal is anarchy? As long as you do not become drunk with the power they will tempt you with and nor participate in scandalous and downright immoral state affairs (corruption, embezzling, etc.) .",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1499294272 132541315,132560578,2017-07-05 22:51:19,">>132553961 I'm not arguing about the importance of epistemology; I'm arguing that you're still a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499295079 132541315,132560590,2017-07-05 22:51:28,"...this would be a great flag for Objectivism. Even though it's similarity to the Nazi flag is kekistani maymay tier. Perfect for /pol/ though. >""We take as our symbol the moral of the $"" Something along those lines. Personally I would do a white dollar on black background instead as I have a boner for minimalism and monochromatic shit. Also a /white/ dollar on a black expanse appeals to me greatly. I'm not White Nationalist though. Though I approach it when confronted by the white genocide ala Hoppe.",,Anonymous,dollarflag.jpg,ir5jlqwGvLez0uoZmu/0MA==,US,,1499295088 132541315,132560784,2017-07-05 22:53:30,">>132560578 Correct. Libertarian is still useful as a technical classifier and descriptor. But little more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499295210 132541315,132560787,2017-07-05 22:53:31,">>132560590 Some guy posted the other day a yellow flag with a fence that was pretty cool.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1499295211 132541315,132561030,2017-07-05 22:55:43,">>132560590 How about a black flag with a gold/yellow first sign? Cut out the circle shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499295343 132541315,132561037,2017-07-05 22:55:48,">>132558291 >So can one be AnCap and still engage in politics and support minarchy if the end goal is anarchy? No because the end goal shouldn't be Anarchy. Achieving minarchy necessitates a different course of acton than acheiving anarchy. No two ways about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499295348 132541315,132561050,2017-07-05 22:55:53,"I-I like you Will you kill me?",,Anonymous,1499180865315.png,mkiL6YJrrzxQVVS/iM/ymA==,FR,,1499295353 132541315,132561061,2017-07-05 22:55:58,">>132557208 Property rights; the natural order, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499295358 132541315,132561272,2017-07-05 22:57:58,">>132561050 Not unless you tread on me, Monsieur.",,Anonymous,warning.jpg,DDyjNbMamup3/EbGlSyvag==,PT,,1499295478 132541315,132561437,2017-07-05 22:59:38,">>132561272 >want to kill commies >don't want to kill us ARE YOU LIKE GODS?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1499295578 132541315,132562141,2017-07-05 23:06:25,"""Tyranny is one form of chaos; freedom is one form of order. There are others of each, however. And order is always preferred to chaos. Thus, to a Carlylean, the fatal error of libertarianism is the confusion of anarchy and freedom. Not only are they not the same thing; they are opposite poles of the political spectrum. Freedom - spontaneous order - is the ultimate form of order. Anarchy is the ultimate form of disorder."" ""The Carlylean technique accepts only absolute veracity as the basis for any political strategy. The fact is: by sacrificing the occasional kitten or two, by twisting the truth a bit for the sake of this quarter's sales, libertarians and other rightists get nowhere. Their enemies are (a) in power today, and (b) operating an assembly-line rhinoceros abattoir for the sole benefit of His Satanic Majesty. "" ""To a Carlylean, anarchy and tyranny are fundamentally and essentially allied and indivisible. And again: the apparent affinity between anarchy and freedom is wholly illusory. In fact: to maximize freedom, eradicate anarchy. To achieve spontaneous order: first, achieve ordinary, down-to-earth, nonspontaneous order. Then, wait a while. Then, start to relax."" Guys, I think I'm starting to take the Moldbug-pill. C-can anyone join me? http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.pt/2010/02/from-mises-to-carlyle-my-sick-journey.html",,Anonymous,lou.jpg,dexx8kYxKIVenENVwcZKWw==,PT,,1499295985 132541315,132562207,2017-07-05 23:07:07,">>132561030 >first sign What like '#1'? Fuck that. It HAS to be the $ for Galt reasons. The ""Gold standard"" being implied in the flag is appealing I do admit. I myslef lean toward White on black more. A Gold dollar is probably better now that I think of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499296027 132541315,132562669,2017-07-05 23:11:42,">>132562141 >Thus, to a Carlylean, the fatal error of libertarianism is the confusion of anarchy and freedom Not for Minarchists. This quote is decent teir but its logic is nowhere near air-tight. Carlyean Libertarianism is not the whole of the structure. Looks like I've found a Ludwig von Mises quote I actually dislike. Huh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499296302 132541315,132562790,2017-07-05 23:12:53,">>132545695 >can i have my civic nationalist beliefs in lrg? >civic nationalist",,Anonymous,1495266274772.jpg,Ug1DA3BWD65R+MP+Qg/iXw==,,,1499296373 132541315,132562817,2017-07-05 23:13:11,">>132562669 No, no, this is not Mises I'm quoting. I'm reading an article by Mencius Moldbug, the NRx guy. ""But the libertarian artillery officer faces a serious moral dilemma. Does artillery violate the natural rights of the target? I would say: the entire purpose of artillery is to violate the natural rights of the target. Clearly, if you could get your hands on the people your artillery is pointed at, and subject them to a full and fair judicial trial for whatever their offenses may be, you would have no need at all for artillery. Since you have no means by which to achieve this, you subject them to a 120-mm shell instead."" Absolute madman.",,Anonymous,cease these jests.jpg,IdBz6g2KDWtRc/jRaKp9ow==,PT,,1499296391 132541315,132562908,2017-07-05 23:14:05,">>132562207 Just realize it was a dumb autocorrect. Meant dollar sign. Sorry I'm phone posting while on vacation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499296445 132541315,132562976,2017-07-05 23:14:44,">>132562817 >not Mises Oh thank god.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499296484 132541315,132563310,2017-07-05 23:18:20,">>132552171 Jews *benefit* from capitalism, but promote communism. https://fee.org/articles/capitalism-and-the-jews/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499296700 132541315,132564562,2017-07-05 23:31:07,Here's the flag I was talking about. What do you think?,,Anonymous,1498523535145.png,kF6eOnG9KpSP04Msey1B9w==,PT,,1499297467 132541315,132564939,2017-07-05 23:35:25,">>132564562 I like it I don't really know what it means though",,Anonymous,1494280274332.png,JqJ7s3j3E1WaPO5qn/PT6A==,US,,1499297725 132541315,132565000,2017-07-05 23:35:56,">>132564939 I think it's a fence, as in ""hippity hoppity get off my property.""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1499297756 132541315,132565074,2017-07-05 23:36:47,">>132563310 Unpopular opinion incoming. The Jews out Meritocracy'd us and their spot (right wing ones at least) is well earned and I begrudgingly salute them. We should have outcompeted them and we did not. Butthurt NatSoc kiddies need not apply. The Jews have leftists elements that I suspect they despise. Scapgoating the Jews for ALL of the worlds goddamn problems is a mental shortcut of the same breed Stlain committed with the Kulaks and Mao with the city dwellers. I secretly cannot fucking stand ((())) posting. Imagine if we shilled successfully to the point that our based Jewish allies started using the word ""kike"" to described be their non-Judaism practicing Marx fellating cousins in a MASS surprise event. (((Zuckerberg))) ect. Done after the following: I had this idea for a ""Meritocratic Party"". Declare the Republican Party a failure to the right and vow to push it to the ""center"" (which I view, essentially, as a giant Middle Ground Fallacy anyway) and claim the right in its stead. Invite all Libertarians, Constitution Party members, and Paleocons disgusted with the GOP and form this new Meritocratic Party. It would be necessary to get a bunch of big name supporters to simultaneously endorse it and even convert some big name celebs in a surprise event. Can't be a ""minor"" party like the old Libertarians, this has to be a threat as a major one on it's inception. Imagine if Trump made this statement while also extending an apologetic olive branch to PaleoConservatism while also expressing his disdain for neocons, RINOs, cuckservatives, and ""crypto-Democrats"" (as I like to say). Imagine. In this new 3 party America the new Republicans in the """"center"""" would be able to say the this society is a Constitutional Representative *Republic* and their party simply reflects this reality. So then the Democrats and Meritocrats to either side must say that their intent to do is is to modify the society with more Democracy and Meritocracy to the left/right respectively.",,Anonymous,Piranha Party.jpg,U7IXcteo5IgjgMBx4LVZnA==,US,,1499297807 132541315,132565257,2017-07-05 23:38:31,">>132565000 ooh, I see it now think you can slap a ""trespassers will be shot"" sign on it or something to make the message clear? honestly I first interpreted the fence as a fort or something",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499297911 132541315,132565478,2017-07-05 23:40:40,">>132565257 I like the ones with the M-16, ""Come and take it!""",,Anonymous,moldbug.jpg,yoPFLATPMy9Q6IpQnyqN2w==,PT,,1499298040 132541315,132565970,2017-07-05 23:45:34,">>132565478 haha yeah, that one was top notch gotta love texas",,Anonymous,1496702742085.png,XnwEaaGTpWu6RvMCz5zoiA==,US,,1499298334 132541315,132566198,2017-07-05 23:47:56,">>132554835 >Hey boyos, I'm trying to make an a priori argument for why homosexuals should never be in a position of power. kek. This is something I would love to hear. Cheers, lad",,Anonymous,,,,,1499298476 132541315,132567016,2017-07-05 23:56:46,">>132541315 THIS THREAD HAS HIT MAXIMUM JEW",,Anonymous,,,,,1499299006 132541315,132567047,2017-07-05 23:57:07,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499299027 132541315,132568190,2017-07-06 00:08:37,"Guys thinking about Rand and Objectivism just make me think of something wild. What if instead of Howard Roark Trump is actually embodying Francisco D'anconia by prentending to be generally liberal as an 1776-D underwater skydiving keikaku to permanently plant Objectivism in the country's polical landscape.",,Anonymous,1479619247747.jpg,8igl7zHjPm5TQhnAPOCp2Q==,US,,1499299717 132541315,132568302,2017-07-06 00:09:56,">>132568190 All I hear is that Moldbug has a personal line set up with Steve Bannon, and that Bannon likes him.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1499299796 132667411,132667411,2017-07-06 18:30:02,"""Libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives"" - Hans Hermann-Hoppe This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_hoppe.png,6Fri1z1L+n6co21Xqo1oqA==,GB,,1499365802 132667411,132667707,2017-07-06 18:32:12,>>132667411,,Anonymous,1491329990911.png,rNV4RnUr0AK9kvO8C4zisA==,,,1499365932 132667411,132667829,2017-07-06 18:33:14,"Hail /lrg/, the only true voice of liberty ok /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499365994 132667411,132668087,2017-07-06 18:34:59,,,Anonymous,lrg_vs_lp.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,US,,1499366099 132667411,132668646,2017-07-06 18:39:50,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1499366390 132667411,132668784,2017-07-06 18:40:54,,,Anonymous,17388990_10155188064857264_3554594324893539697_o.jpg,QIUlHrnl9XullFQGYSXmPg==,,,1499366454 132667411,132669877,2017-07-06 18:50:20,">>132668784 Curt Doolittle, the creator of propertarianism (at least I believe he created it), doesn't understand Anarcho-Capitalism. >Rothbardian ethics treat blackmail as a voluntary exchange Since when? ""do this or I'll ruin your life"" isn't a voluntary exchange; it's coercion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499367020 132667411,132670722,2017-07-06 18:57:47,">>132669877 I've been looking at Curt, so far I'm not impressed. He's seems intelligent, but doesn't fully understand Anarcho Capitalism enough. He just comes off as an edgier classical liberal. But I haven't gave him a full listen yet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499367467 132667411,132671021,2017-07-06 19:00:30,">>132670722 That's the same impression I got. Similarly to you though, I haven't spent too much time looking into propertarianism, so I can't give a full opinion on it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499367630 132667411,132671141,2017-07-06 19:01:39,Learn economics,,Anonymous,1499343280394.jpg,LXy9hDXR5is7NdIezpDZ6A==,,,1499367699 132667411,132671335,2017-07-06 19:03:22,">>132671141 >flag top kek.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499367802 132667411,132671349,2017-07-06 19:03:32,">>132671141 Strange coming from ""property is theft"" fags like you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499367812 132667411,132671458,2017-07-06 19:04:43,>>132671141,,Anonymous,1488568442156.gif,WQcVsc79u+MKoIWRLCGE2Q==,,,1499367883 132667411,132671628,2017-07-06 19:06:15,">>132671141 learn how to fly",,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,,,1499367975 132667411,132671676,2017-07-06 19:06:45,>>132671141,,Anonymous,hungrycommie.jpg,plAkgljhEZoIDOTZL96IYA==,,,1499368005 132667411,132671805,2017-07-06 19:07:57,bump,,Anonymous,1494705730882.jpg,QHcWwN+nxl2d72pS899NJg==,,,1499368077 132667411,132671849,2017-07-06 19:08:16,">>132671141 the irony is strong with this one, comrade",,Anonymous,1496424205747.png,tq1mDmBSLQYEBP9Lyv1jvA==,US,,1499368096 132667411,132672077,2017-07-06 19:10:27,">>132671628 NEW REMOVAL THEME? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VQ_3sBZEm0",,Anonymous,throwemout.png,q8NgWGamKZdLVPljRGvg/g==,,,1499368227 132667411,132672235,2017-07-06 19:11:51,">>132672077 top kek",,Anonymous,1433.png,9RogssL4q/J5EqxEZxqPiA==,,,1499368311 132667411,132672752,2017-07-06 19:16:58,">>132671141 dude what if the only thing that's worth anything is labor but also labor I don't like is also not worth anything lmao >economy collapses",,Anonymous,,,,,1499368618 132667411,132672911,2017-07-06 19:18:29,"Do we agree with Hoppe when he says that Keynes' economic views can be explained by his homosexuality? If so, how do we bring this into the mainstream of economic and political discourse?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499368709 132667411,132672947,2017-07-06 19:18:44,">>132667411 >Anarchy AAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP. Also, why are libertarians so against the concept of a state?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499368724 132667411,132673042,2017-07-06 19:19:32,">>132672911 Are you the guy who says he would argue why homos can't be in positions of power?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499368772 132667411,132673254,2017-07-06 19:21:09,">>132672947 Don't infight faggot",,Anonymous,1497625455015.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,,,1499368869 132667411,132673272,2017-07-06 19:21:17,">>132672947 because a state can only exist by the infringement of people's right to not have the NAP violated?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499368877 132667411,132673379,2017-07-06 19:22:20,">>132673042 No.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499368940 132667411,132673567,2017-07-06 19:24:05,">>132672947 >state enforces degeneracy >state enforces democracy >state enforces socialism do you understand?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499369045 132667411,132674086,2017-07-06 19:28:37,">>132672947 because a state is only good until it inevitably fucks up. when you centralize the state, you centralize fuckups and now everybody's gotta put up with bullshit instead of one faggot loser",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499369317 132667411,132675031,2017-07-06 19:36:55,"Reminder that ""Objectivism"" deserves a mention in the OP as it encapsulates Nationalism, Capitalism, Meritocracy, Individualism, and Libertarianism all rolled into one. Libertarianism is only useful as a technical qualifier and is literally incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk Cultural Marxists are terrified of Ayn Rand as she represents the American Constution completed. Epistemologically validated, metaphysically defined, and ethically expanded. Objectivism is the greatest threat Commies have ever encountered which is why they cannot even bear to have it discussed as a philosophy.",,Anonymous,1497141679894.png,GwLsV8x1jBvWsD4RCHf9Cw==,US,,1499369815 132667411,132675229,2017-07-06 19:38:55,">>132671141 Nice bait nigger",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1499369935 132667411,132675931,2017-07-06 19:45:35,">>132675031 >tfw you realize that people hate on Ayn Rand so much because Atlas Shrugged completely btfos all collectivist moral systems",,Anonymous,,,,,1499370335 132667411,132676077,2017-07-06 19:46:55,">>132671141 >learn my objectively retarded economic theory ftfy. Austrian economics is the only true economic theory",,Anonymous,,,,,1499370415 132667411,132676283,2017-07-06 19:48:47,">>132675931 desu im not even a feminist but most people just dismiss her because she's a woman and welfare queen I'm not saying she's wrong, but from my own experience that's just how they usually address her work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499370527 132667411,132676375,2017-07-06 19:49:36,what's the praxeological argument for black people being less intelligent/having lower time preference,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1499370576 132667411,132676625,2017-07-06 19:51:58,">>132676375 *high time preference And it's in IQ most likely. But Hoppe uses Neil Diamond's book (the one with the zebra meme) to explain why niggers didn't advance so much, as well as citing J.P. Rushton, Nick Wade and Charles Murray for IQ stuff. Basically, they act like children so they have lesser temporal horizons.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499370718 132667411,132676772,2017-07-06 19:53:12,">>132676375 they're niggers. their human action is ooga booga. that's it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499370792 132667411,132676872,2017-07-06 19:54:02,">>132676375 Its not praxeological, it's statistical. Low iq, heritability. High time preference.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499370842 132667411,132676955,2017-07-06 19:54:41,">>132676872 but empiricism isn't reliable.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1499370881 132667411,132677037,2017-07-06 19:55:27,">>132676955 it doesn't require empiricism to see that niggers are niggers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499370927 132667411,132677065,2017-07-06 19:55:42,">>132676283 the ""Ayn Rand took social security so her arguments are invalid"" meme is retarded, considering that one of the main pillars of her Atlas Shrugged is about making sure to take back everything the government takes from you",,Anonymous,,,,,1499370942 132667411,132677170,2017-07-06 19:56:42,">>132677065 I know, but most people don't understand that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499371002 132667411,132677421,2017-07-06 19:59:00,">>132676375 >>132676375 Blacks come from a place where a low time preference wasn't as crucial for survival as it was in places like Europe. Since traits from parents and ancestors are often inherited by their offspring, we can conclude that blacks are generally biologically bound to a high time preference. From that follows a total lack of noteworthy achievements and a high crime rate",,Anonymous,haiti.png,L5FGPOvFmAipBYzfaX31Qg==,,,1499371140 132667411,132677810,2017-07-06 20:02:27,Fuck nazi and fascist flags. They're as dumb as commies,,Anonymous,,,,,1499371347 132667411,132678317,2017-07-06 20:07:11,">>132677810 Lol no.",,Anonymous,aaqy00uarljy.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,,,1499371631 132667411,132678388,2017-07-06 20:07:56,">>132677810 They're boot-lickers but they're only half as bad as commies",,Anonymous,,,,,1499371676 132667411,132679275,2017-07-06 20:16:18,">>132677810 we need them towards a strategic alliance against commies. We allied with the wrong powers in WW2 and we can't let that happen again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499372178 132667411,132679643,2017-07-06 20:19:27,">>132677421 What's the proof behind them coming from 'a place where a low time preference wasn't as crucial for survival as it was in places like Europe'?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1499372367 132667411,132679846,2017-07-06 20:21:19,"Hey >I grow weed >I have 17 assault rifles >and I'm gay >gay >gay apparently you hoppean fags have a problem with that?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499372479 132667411,132679998,2017-07-06 20:22:30,">>132679643 Warm Africa and access to food",,Anonymous,,,,,1499372550 132667411,132680155,2017-07-06 20:23:42,">>132679846 yeah fuck you fag",,Anonymous,,,,,1499372622 132667411,132680208,2017-07-06 20:24:16,">>132679846 >apparently you hoppean fags have a problem with that? no, but I also don't have a problem with anyone who chooses to exclude you from their society based on that fact fag",,Anonymous,,,,,1499372656 132667411,132680209,2017-07-06 20:24:16,">>132679846 Not per se in my case, but by the way you're going about it, yes.",,Anonymous,SO_TO_SPEAK.jpg,LatNQtsX/0qiXcA64qB87w==,GB,,1499372656 132667411,132680220,2017-07-06 20:24:24,">>132679846 Not unless you go out and shout ""I'm a faggot! I'm a faggot! Get rid of your families and of your traditions and prejudices to comfort me! Get rid of your ways of life so I can feel at home!"" http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/05/hoppe-on-covenant-communities/ Read this and see where you stand.",,Anonymous,goldwater for president.jpg,KQqCuN7j5uHkf3WY85VNtA==,,,1499372664 132667411,132680409,2017-07-06 20:26:07,">>132680220 >Not unless you go out and shout ""I'm a faggot! I'm a faggot! Like he did just now?",,Anonymous,200px-Fascist_Eagle_svg.jpg,WkyFXZ9tqZQ44LfLeriaug==,,,1499372767 132667411,132680809,2017-07-06 20:29:41,">>132667411 >Hey >>I grow weed >>I have 17 assault rifles >>and I'm gay >>gay >>gay > >apparently you hoppean fags have a problem with that? Thanks for the unsolicited rundown, identity fag...no-one cares about your cool guns, who's butt you fuck in private.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499372981 132667411,132680841,2017-07-06 20:29:59,,,Anonymous,Ancap retardation strawmn.png,xeqbmAVCvmhUvzcJnQseYw==,US,,1499372999 132667411,132681568,2017-07-06 20:36:10,">>132680809 why did you quote the op",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1499373370 132667411,132682134,2017-07-06 20:41:20,">>132681568 BECAUSE I'M IN A DEALERSHIP WAITING ROOM ON AN UNLICENSED SHIT CELL PHONE APP TRYING NOT TO GO INSANE WAITING FOR GF CAR TO BE READY. ALL CAPS",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-04-24-00-44-02-1.png,8Y01wa6QCy71eNWKeU9fsQ==,US,,1499373680 132667411,132682140,2017-07-06 20:41:22,">>132680409 I was thinking more of a ""Local homosexual petitions for the recognition of same-sex couples in the free territory of Ruritania. The territory of Ruritania is a designated traditional conservative covenant by the National Contracts Corporation (NCC), leading to the dissatisfaction of Ruritanian tenants over their neighbor's public comments. The NCC has opened a legal procedure after Ruritanians petitioned for the expulsion of the local homosexual, and will decide whether or not the contract is terminated later this week.""",,Anonymous,hoppe-san.jpg,5cA9H0d3GtVsxAbeSxsUwg==,,,1499373682 132667411,132682199,2017-07-06 20:41:58,">>132679846 I do if you try and pull any gay shit on my private property. Keep it to yourself, homo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499373718 132667411,132683330,2017-07-06 20:52:33,">>132679846 No, you're a human being who is degenerate. Sex with the same gender contravenes your reproductive faculties; it negates natural law. It's like putting food in your ears and calling it eating. It's nothing more than a disordered inclination.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499374353 132730446,132730446,2017-07-07 06:57:15,"""Libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives"" - Hans Hermann-Hoppe This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1499382375743.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,,,1499410635 132730446,132730545,2017-07-07 06:58:42,"Yes goy get rid of regulations, import more foreign workers, and lower my taxes so I can have more money to create jobs for you goyim",,Anonymous,,,,,1499410722 132730446,132730736,2017-07-07 07:01:37,">>132730545 >just take away my guns big daddy government >nevermind the jew-only part, today i'm the jew take them away!!!",,Anonymous,,,,,1499410897 132730446,132730814,2017-07-07 07:02:51,Do you believe in God?,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1499410971 132730446,132731801,2017-07-07 07:17:12,">>132730814 Not personally, no. I believe religion is necessary for certain people whose moral compass is totally broken unless guided. Also, I believe there's a resemblance between religion and ancap insurances, you voluntarily subscribe to them and they limit what you can do in exchange of guaranteeing people around you will also be limited. People either segregate according to the insurance/rules they prefer or create societies with multiple insurance models working at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499411832 132943094,132943094,2017-07-08 22:04:40,"""Libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives"" - Hans Hermann-Hoppe This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General (we dixie nao edition),Anonymous,liberflagsaltire-01.png,somM/10ZW+h+lpnZPSRolA==,,,1499551480 132943094,132944571,2017-07-08 22:21:12,"Why do people hate the Koch brothers? I'm not knowledgeable on the subject, so I might be missing something really important. I assume it's because they are ((())), but I'm not even sure of that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499552472 132947850,132947850,2017-07-08 23:01:14,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Jeff Deist, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, The Libertarian Republic, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1496446969810.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,,,1499554874 132947850,132947896,2017-07-08 23:01:40,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!",,Anonymous,1497406574825.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,,,1499554900 132947850,132947964,2017-07-08 23:02:34,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,1497414715378.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,,,1499554954 132947850,132947987,2017-07-08 23:02:51,Muh (((free market))),,Anonymous,5.png,bLDJoiPOzyl1OJPtgjQ4pg==,,,1499554971 132947850,132948037,2017-07-08 23:03:21,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell",,Anonymous,1497414831918.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,,,1499555001 132947850,132948098,2017-07-08 23:04:02,"VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,1497414625798.jpg,JkVQtORFLcLXCeBjXTK3Og==,,,1499555042 132947850,132948148,2017-07-08 23:04:43,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,1497414554151.jpg,+zuP9RnnsFEJ/+4cuIbBuA==,,,1499555083 132947850,132948413,2017-07-08 23:07:51,"Can anyone recommend a daily/weekly/monthly publication that examines current economic trends through a strict libertarian, free market lens?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499555271 132947850,132948699,2017-07-08 23:11:13,Refute this... oh wait,,Anonymous,Ancap retardation strawmn.png,xeqbmAVCvmhUvzcJnQseYw==,US,,1499555473 132947850,132949074,2017-07-08 23:15:54,">>132948699 Non-aggression isn't an arbitrarily obeyed principle, it's enforced by property owners through contract and retaliation. Also, in Western Christian society, people do obey the non-aggression principle. Cooperation is what healthy people do.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499555754 132947850,132949264,2017-07-08 23:18:34,"Hans Hermanne Hoppe is honestly a genius...I have read a lot of his major works. If there is any hope in the world, it's that he will eventually be recognized as one of the primary philosophers. His logical insight is just breathtkaing",,Anonymous,,,,,1499555914 132947850,132949964,2017-07-08 23:27:07,">>132947987 >federal reserve destablizes economy by means of wealth redistribution largely by means of unlimited power of inflation that serves to benefit a rich, undeserving class and drain value from the dollar >welfare programs also prop up a parasitic section of the poor, middle class suffers greatly >single motherhood incentivized >white traditional family grows poorer and suffer, starts to break apart >federal government has too much control on education, education, being managed and universalized by some beauracracy in DC, starts to suffer and is filled with anti-racist and pro-state propaganda >through all this kids grow up with no values and no sense of personal responsibilty or sense of family or community, no skills, and depend more and more on state and all that entails, living hedonistic, brainwashed lives >government owns land that should all be privatized >lets beaners in that have no market demand https://mises.org/blog/market-borders-not-open-borders Yes truly libertarianism will be the death of the white race. Faggot any system that centralizes power will just be taken over by Jews.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499556427 132947850,132950309,2017-07-08 23:31:21,">>132947987 >>132949964 relevant pic",,Anonymous,libertarianism.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1499556681 132947850,132950703,2017-07-08 23:35:53,">>132949264 >>132950309",,Anonymous,image.jpg,1miTkOpGoKj0Ztb2bqoS6w==,US,,1499556953 132947850,132951046,2017-07-08 23:39:56,">>132948413 Find a libertarian stockbroker",,Anonymous,,,,,1499557196 132947850,132951792,2017-07-08 23:49:04,>P*leo plebs.,,Anonymous,,,,,1499557744 132947850,132953491,2017-07-09 00:09:57,">>132951792 Fuck off, Paleo and mean is the master race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499558997 132947850,132954999,2017-07-09 00:29:09,bump,,Anonymous,1497414575849.jpg,otlmRxpleLyaz0e3bmIDlw==,,,1499560149 132947850,132956834,2017-07-09 00:53:53,"I will never have liberty or freedom ;_; How am i gonna live free with just a lee enfield and a pump action 22?",,Anonymous,1497969604092.jpg,C+4nOzNBWaqkwP5mZxA40A==,AU,,1499561633 132947850,132957218,2017-07-09 00:59:05,,,Anonymous,mentalgymnastics.jpg,+1jT/IJj/xe7LWCMIknCAQ==,,,1499561945 132947850,132957926,2017-07-09 01:09:09,">>132957218 kek",,Anonymous,1497288193914.jpg,oXvluwTQXPiZ1x9hLd63vw==,,,1499562549 132947850,132959374,2017-07-09 01:28:44,">>132948148 unfortunately YouTube deleted Cato's Speech",,Anonymous,,,,,1499563724 132947850,132959700,2017-07-09 01:33:40,">>132947896 >Palestinians land Part Assyrian here, Fuck you",,Anonymous,,,,,1499564020 133107210,133107210,2017-07-10 09:56:16,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Liberty.jpg,8YssLLfN+SCgyLYrS+s15g==,,,1499680576 133107210,133107936,2017-07-10 10:06:17,"To all my liberty lovers: how do we fix america? i say there must be a movement to once again view the states as sovereign nations",,Anonymous,Emergency pino.jpg,K2KypfpznT/2gnLq7akLEw==,,,1499681177 133107210,133108060,2017-07-10 10:08:12,">>133107936 in this way we can go back to having as much power state and municipally wise as possible, and we wouldn't even have to destroy the union!",,Anonymous,,,,,1499681292 133107210,133110036,2017-07-10 10:34:43,just bumping with anime grills,,Anonymous,1492693792126.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1499682883 133107210,133110087,2017-07-10 10:35:27,she can tread on me any day <3,,Anonymous,1497153740310.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1499682927 133107210,133110171,2017-07-10 10:36:43,"Here is the pastebin from the other threads https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT",,Anonymous,,,,,1499683003 133107210,133110304,2017-07-10 10:38:27,Bumper,,Anonymous,IMG_4181.jpg,lHm67W7gXVucDsFumrXtsA==,DE,,1499683107 133107210,133110339,2017-07-10 10:38:53,">>133107936 I don't believe that giving the states more rights over the federal government would result in more freedom. Take Massachusetts for example, they would make their state into even more of a socialist wet dream which would result in fewer rights both personally and economically. Gun rights would be thrown out of the window statewide as the democratic majority would most likely attempt to dominate every part of society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499683133 133107210,133110473,2017-07-10 10:40:43,">>133107210 listen faggots, if you dare to lay your salty fingers on my big boy kim, i'll fuck you up you have been warned",,Anonymous,kim_jong.jpg,X0+bjYdzUZdJ1AniIIYOag==,,,1499683243 133107210,133110664,2017-07-10 10:43:08,">>133110473 Duterte outclasses kim in every way kim is the fat kid in gym class who everyone makes fun of while Duterte is the all-star",,Anonymous,1490036954048.jpg,ZYLaxJboZ29FV/+709CmXQ==,,,1499683388 133107210,133110694,2017-07-10 10:43:32,"guys if theres no police or child protective services in ancapistan, who will traffic our children to satanists, pedophiles, cannibals, and necrophiliacs? i mean its just not fair, i can't live with myself knowing there is a child out there that is completely safe from a jewish bureaucracy ran by an elite group of moloch worshiping, adrenochrome drinking, rapists.",,Anonymous,1480279885162.jpg,Aa/uYx6l9HAfcurHaErNIg==,US,,1499683412 133107210,133110807,2017-07-10 10:44:54,">>133110694 I don't think we are discussing the Vatican but it isn't like our current society is far better at protecting children. I'm not an ancap though so I'll leave that to one of them",,Anonymous,,,,,1499683494 133107210,133110878,2017-07-10 10:45:54,">>133110807 The state truly secures the future of children from not being penetrated truly Jebus tier work",,Anonymous,,,,,1499683554 133107210,133110962,2017-07-10 10:47:05,"Does anyone know if someone ever made a pic similar to this one but with hoppe instead of the coon and obviously ""HOPPE"" instead of ""HOPE""?",,Anonymous,images.jpg,xjhwhHXxSlmiN+828U+5rA==,DE,,1499683625 133107210,133110990,2017-07-10 10:47:25,">>133110807 >>133110878 the england the usa, more than anyone else is ran by a jewish numbers cult called gematria and freemasonry. http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/ every thing you see on sports, news, military news and so on is a number ritual.",,Anonymous,1496407962338.jpg,7s0n3KqXnsc0QLWNdlnAtw==,US,,1499683645 133107210,133111076,2017-07-10 10:48:37,,,Anonymous,1497630546029.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1499683717 133107210,133111151,2017-07-10 10:49:25,,,Anonymous,1494211419241.jpg,aA6grYG65sFpBihVSh44Ow==,US,,1499683765 133107210,133111219,2017-07-10 10:50:06,,,Anonymous,1493839459643.jpg,07zvYI5ZFfeHD5wfzTGscw==,US,,1499683806 133107210,133111385,2017-07-10 10:51:57,Anyroom for praxeolgy,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499683917 133107210,133112418,2017-07-10 11:04:32,">>133110036 >>133110087 go back to /ptg/, you stupid anime faggot. Nobody would want to employ a social recluse that is known for his consumption of weirdo cartoons in a true libertarian order. youd be either in a low-tier job or starving on the streets. now go back to your liberalism, pal, and enjoy the state enable subsidization that makes your degenerate weeb lifestyle possible.",,Anonymous,960.jpg,PdrkSaW+MX4n0NQYhkh6ng==,,,1499684672 133107210,133112488,2017-07-10 11:05:19,">>133111385 what about praxis?",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,lcQ7F/1Ac6RBcT2ALNifkQ==,US,,1499684719 133107210,133112748,2017-07-10 11:08:24,">>133112418 >people cant enjoy anime in the libertarian social order",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499684904 133107210,133112891,2017-07-10 11:10:01,">>133112418 With this statement you are attempting to restrict the free market. Please leave or you will be forcibly removed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499685001 133107210,133113106,2017-07-10 11:12:30,"those threads are getting sloppy, include the pastebin and op with a more memorable ancap related picture senpai >>133110694 sure, but i suspect that child porn would be pretty abundant in ancapistan, one way or the other",,Anonymous,,,,,1499685150 133107210,133113222,2017-07-10 11:13:53,">>133107210 libertarianism = ideology for people unable to accept that they living in a community interconnected with other literally people living on moon",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1499685233 133107210,133113499,2017-07-10 11:17:08,">>133112748 >people cant enjoy anime in the libertarian social order Not if they're public about it; it serves as a signalling mechanism that there is something wrong with them. >>133112891 Read the statement again, Gadsden Fag, >Nobody would want to employ a social recluse that is known for his consumption of weirdo cartoons in a true libertarian order. youd be either in a low-tier job or starving on the streets. the free market itself would exclude you from the labor market because you're known to consume cartoons meant for kids, in other words, you're a weirdo. you might be able to get a low-tier job but in general, not too many people would want to hire you or associate with you in the event you were capable of running a business.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499685428 133107210,133114065,2017-07-10 11:23:48,">>133110962 I gotcha",,Anonymous,IMG_4076.jpg,u8GXTLdEYT1yi8lFjhULVQ==,US,,1499685828 133107210,133114265,2017-07-10 11:26:28,">children are playing outside >their ball lands in my yard >the tip of their shoe bends the leading edge of my lawn, damaging a single blade of grass >I shoot them square in the face and get to sue their relatives for millions. This is what libertarians actually believe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499685988 133107210,133114592,2017-07-10 11:30:10,">>133114265 Nice meme! Can I save it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499686210 133107210,133115042,2017-07-10 11:35:23,">>133110036 >>133110087 I, for one, enjoy these cartoons. Don't listen to the other guy, who cares if you watch anime or not? I'm sure covenant companies won't put ""can't watch anime"" in their contracts with tenants.",,Anonymous,decentralization.png,/qpBa22Z7Qc9bb9cJhQGlA==,PT,,1499686523 133107210,133115085,2017-07-10 11:35:53,">>133113499 You are making an assumption and that is quite ironic coming from the child-consents flag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499686553 133107210,133115318,2017-07-10 11:38:35,">>133114265 >evicted >fired >employee & customer blacklisted >you starve to death",,Anonymous,1491851579958.gif,WG86mSJ/y1RTliSQqEx5Tg==,US,,1499686715 133107210,133115980,2017-07-10 11:46:39,"I've been thinking a lot lately about practical ways we can make the state fuck off from our lives without actually having to start a blood-soaked revolution and die in the process. Most normies wouldn't join us either. I think the future path to Liberty is chipping away power from the state and its many tentacles. For example, we have cryptocurrencies to hinder central banks and render traditional financial institutions irrelevant; 3D printing to bypass gun control measures; open source software and torrenting to make copyright enforcement impossible. But these measures are, by and large, confined to the internet or cyberspace. How do we push to repeal legislation that affects the physical world? Like, getting rid of price fixing, bureaucratic institutions and red tape? Any ideas? My cautiously optimistic side says we are near the end of the line for the welfare state paradigm. Once it collapses or is largely privatized, the state will have to be confined to doing what it did originally, protection and collective security, and hopefully modern technology will make it as efficient as possible. In other words, all will be fine.",,Anonymous,physical awoo.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,PT,,1499687199 133107210,133116514,2017-07-10 11:52:52,">>133114592 Only if you can find someone to pay me in bitcoins.",,Anonymous,071712Bernanke011.jpg,RQeXJFkzAtHksZ73SOIGKQ==,US,,1499687572 133107210,133116758,2017-07-10 11:55:47,">>133114265 Strawmans, Strawmans Everywhere. Fuck off US Anon. Don't pretend that the US legal system is perfect as is. You can already sue people for millions of dollars over nothing, look at dumb bitch that spilled hot coffee in her lap that she got from McDonalds. She got millions for doing something so stupid, using her thighs to hold a scalding coffee cup. Now McDonalds has to put warning labels on their coffee and cheap little cardboard cup slips. There's your government mandated legal courts at their finest. If you think the system we have now isn't a horrible quagmire it was intended to be by Constitution-hating lawyers and politicians, then you are delusional. First we must kill all the lawyers.",,Anonymous,Amendments destroyed.png,bj4ruy4r1io7Fed2+okbXA==,,,1499687747 133107210,133118120,2017-07-10 12:10:28,bump,,Anonymous,Erik_von_Kuehnelt-Leddihn.jpg,g9eN4ZjgGXZ++Dc00bERTA==,PT,,1499688628 133180527,133180527,2017-07-10 22:22:06,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,ancap ball.jpg,MjOvhw3LExALlC61seoJ7w==,,,1499725326 133180527,133180756,2017-07-10 22:24:19,">>133180527 >Left-Libertarians Care to argue? Left libertarianism is just replacing the market with the community and using shame/virtue signalling as a motivation instead of greed.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499725459 133180527,133180961,2017-07-10 22:26:33,can anyone explain how currency would work in an ancap society?,,Anonymous,1497896621648.jpg,CEHL/JqJZmn6HiRqtTHITg==,US,,1499725593 133180527,133181496,2017-07-10 22:32:00,P*leo plebs.,,Anonymous,,,,,1499725920 133180527,133181789,2017-07-10 22:35:18,">>133180961 Bitcoin. Currency is accepted because people are willing to accept it despite the fact that no entity formally backs it as legal tender.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499726118 133180527,133182209,2017-07-10 22:39:12,"what stops someone from making a state >if people were angels there would be no need for government",,Anonymous,3c981cdf-cdfb-4a31-b5cc-c698db216e93.jpg,l7AkWoJcKrm+oed7szkZpw==,US,,1499726352 133180527,133182361,2017-07-10 22:40:36,how do you feel about voluntary collectivism,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499726436 133180527,133182392,2017-07-10 22:40:54,FUCK ROADS!!!,,Anonymous,,,RS,,1499726454 133180527,133182520,2017-07-10 22:42:00,>>133180756,,Anonymous,Left Libertarianism.png,+g9kx0DjBSBGX2WL6rJN6w==,,,1499726520 133180527,133182893,2017-07-10 22:45:47,">>133182361 That perfectly fine with me. Individuals have the right to do that if they want. That's why you never hear Ancaps argue against unions. Unions are fine as long as they are voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499726747 133180527,133183040,2017-07-10 22:47:00,">>133182361 The workers at a company can always choose to take out a loan, buy out the owner, distribute shares to themselves. Happens all the time. It's hard to see how you could improve on this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499726820 133180527,133183180,2017-07-10 22:48:09,">>133182520 You've got it >Anarcho-individualism It's called mutualism. And yes, the fact people will say no (convincing people to work for free is beyond what we're capable of at the moment) is why left libertarianism is tied to social engineering, it implies Marxism at this point but I suspect left libertarians would accept an almost fascist idea of societal unit. For instance, if most poor people were supported by their family, then fewer people will need authoritarian services and therefore there's less of a drain. Ergo, a left libertarian would promote family values to get people dependent on their families, especially into their old age (just live with your parents until they die) instead of dependent on the state. Whereas a Marxist wants you dependent on the state. Left libertarians aren't Marxist, but we do have questionable views when we use words like ""community"".",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499726889 133180527,133183276,2017-07-10 22:49:02,">>133182893 Unions are great. The problem is when you mix it with antitrust legislation that prevents employers from counter-unionizing. You're essentially granting the unions a monopoly on labor.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499726942 133180527,133183766,2017-07-10 22:53:17,">>133182209 The NAP and a higher IQ population.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499727197 133180527,133183769,2017-07-10 22:53:19,">>133182392 Speaking of which, reminder that Drew Carey is /ourguy/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsVMAP0zVgo",,Anonymous,80195127.jpg,prosnX+HGUF4rRR1PXLl0g==,,,1499727199 133180527,133183886,2017-07-10 22:54:24,">>133182392 Where we're going we don't need roads.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499727264 133180527,133183930,2017-07-10 22:54:46,>>133182520,,Anonymous,1399831099789.png,L66ZuuzKswoVYz25/0U8Mw==,US,,1499727286 133180527,133184247,2017-07-10 22:57:45,">>133180527 >Libertarian >Right >Implying that the restructuring of economic sphere complete above all traditional social concerns and contracts isn't an inherently leftist, progressive idea which forced thousands of people away from their traditional social bonds and created an alienated and atomized working force to allow a small leisure class to profit which ultimately made modern society as degenerate soulless as the machines and financial elite which they service",,Anonymous,,,,,1499727465 133180527,133184589,2017-07-10 23:01:02,">>133182520 It's not coercion. You're just are not allowed to use force in order to monopolize on something that you aren't actively using. Left libertarians don't recognize your right to absentee ownership and see your attempt to stop others from using it as robbery from the society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499727662 133180527,133184814,2017-07-10 23:03:01,">>133182209 State = forced So, it breaks the NAP and you've got artillery incoming People can live in their own communes as much as they want, but they can't force people to join",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499727781 133180527,133184869,2017-07-10 23:03:30,"Howdy fellas, hope I wasn't late to the party! By the way, if you have any ideas for flags that you wanted to make on a computer, I can execute them the best I can on Illustrator (pic related).",,Anonymous,liberflagsaltire-01.png,somM/10ZW+h+lpnZPSRolA==,,,1499727810 133180527,133185050,2017-07-10 23:05:26,How do you enforce National borders in an AnCap society? What would prevent willing property owners from bringing in immigrants? Seems there needs to be something that holds the many properties together as a cohesive collective... I was thinking a figurehead monarchy that only has power over national borders and sustaining AnCap rule might be the best way to keep said society from rapidly changing.. dunno someone educate me,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499727926 133180527,133185179,2017-07-10 23:06:40,">>133184247 >economic sphere above all are you talking about how the Federal Reserve is corporate welfare for Wall Street? Ancaps don't like the Fed. we are not about the superficial signifiers of ""capitalism"" (suits, banks, money, business) we are about voluntarism. that means most economic actions will be based on market transactions. but that also includes charity and familial relationships. as long as it is voluntary, it is good. the constant experimentation among free people interacting voluntarily will uncover the best way of solving problems.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499728000 133180527,133185405,2017-07-10 23:08:49,">>133185050 It's a country, so borders are a given and to be respected. Bringing in immigrants breaks the NAP simply because they're taking away from citizens of your own country, which will have a right to competitive free markets.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499728129 133180527,133185690,2017-07-10 23:11:23,">>133184869 Can you make one featuring a palmetto? Something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_South_Carolina, would be really appreciated.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499728283 133180527,133185783,2017-07-10 23:12:11,">>133184589 and WHY dont they recognize absentee ownership? because they have a belief in surplus ""theft"" even though there is still no proof given of such theft",,Anonymous,,,,,1499728331 133180527,133185886,2017-07-10 23:13:03,">>133185050 if immigration is facilitated by individuals who choose who to invite to their property based on whether it benefits them, then we will only get the Good Hombres. just like how JK Rowling will not let muslims or niggers in her mansion, people in an ancap world will tend not to invite people who will ruin their property. it's an immigration policy that is not completely restrictive, and where the results of bad choices are borne primarily by those who make them. that minimizes the risk for who else comes in contact with them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499728383 133180527,133186187,2017-07-10 23:16:07,">>133185690 Sure, you want to keep the crescent, I take it, with the same template as the flag in the picture?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499728567 133180527,133186400,2017-07-10 23:17:59,">>133185179 No I'm not talking about the federal reserve I'm talking about pre-capitalist economies. Your concept of ""voluntary"" isn't some neutral blank slate ideology. It has a shit ton of historical and cultural baggage that would bizarre to the natural sorts of economies that from in the absence of capitalist reforms. The traditional and standard view of property ownership is defined through society, communities, and generations of social contracts not just on autistically arbitrary claims to absolute ownership.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499728679 133180527,133186407,2017-07-10 23:18:04,">>133180527 No roads. Your political philosophy is s---.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499728684 133180527,133186548,2017-07-10 23:19:14,"Brayan Caplan is the best libertarian economist,he can make libertarian thoughts come to the academy.",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1499728754 133180527,133186592,2017-07-10 23:19:44,">>133185886 You can simply make immigration entirely illegal Foreigners wouldn't be accustomed to anarchy, and they'd take from citizens of the country -- free markers means you'll have an abundance of your own labor locally. This would also increase the birth rate. Foreigners should have zero rights; they're breaking the NAP as soon as they cross the border",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499728784 133180527,133186852,2017-07-10 23:22:05,">>133186407 Funny fact: Out here where there's literally no state (outback), the public fix the roads, and they're unpaid.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499728925 133180527,133187144,2017-07-10 23:24:39,">>133185405 while I disagree, I've heard ancaps say that it's within the freedom of the property owner to invite in foreigners, as long as those immigrants stay on consenting properties. Wouldn't whatever power that sustains national law essentially be a government? How are laws decided and enforced on a national level?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499729079 133180527,133187500,2017-07-10 23:28:19,">>133185050 The most sustainable form of Libertarianism, imo, is Nationalist Libertarianism. It brings in theories about property rights and the NAP that allow controlled borders and general sustainability of Libertarian 'state' to exist. 1. Those who support ideas that directly violate the NAP MUST be physically removed - as these people do not believe in intrinsic property rights, they do not deserve those rights to be attributed to themselves. This allows the removal of those who would destabilise a truly free state (leftists in general, Communists, etc.) without the state actually violating any Libertarian ideals, as these people have effectively broken the NAP. Probably by simply removing them to another place, but I'm personally not against firing up the helicopters and dumping the degenerates into the sea. 2. Borders are in place as the country itself is property of the culture/people as a whole. Immigrant workers would be fine, BUT they must also agree with rule no.1. This is equally important as, as you say, going full 'open borders' is basically retarded, because it instantly opens the country up to tonnes of people who would try to change the system. There is no point or place for a system of governance that kills itself from the get go. 3. There must also be a certain trust placed in employers that hiring those who are from their own country and culture creates a more harmonious, and therefore more effective and profitable workforce.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499729299 133180527,133187630,2017-07-10 23:29:32,">>133187144 There'd be a Constitution, which would govern the entity of the country for free markers, no state, as well as laws governing borders and such. What the collective agrees to in regards to immigrants, as long as it doesn't break the principles of ancap, would be what's binding. I think immigrants break the NAP themselves, even on private property, as they're foreigners that aren't bound to the country's Constitution and they take away from the right of the citizen to partake in the free markets as they would normally compared to other citizens.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499729372 133180527,133187762,2017-07-10 23:30:59,Yes goys. Keep pouring your savings on libertarian causes. Thanks again goyim,,Anonymous,koch.png,BhrmWQl+m9t4aeX5pfoVLw==,,,1499729459 133180527,133187944,2017-07-10 23:32:47,">>133187762 We love our goys indeed.",,Anonymous,F070812OF11-e1380587936541.jpg,aEC53qxEO3EZJBxhP5nZkw==,,,1499729567 133180527,133189374,2017-07-10 23:46:54,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1499730414 133180527,133190145,2017-07-10 23:54:57,">>133181789 Why not bits of string then? Easier Stupid fucking ideology",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1499730897 133180527,133190942,2017-07-11 00:03:31,">>133185690 >>133186187 Something like this?",,Anonymous,liberscflag-01.png,nwXzAL6dHIVpUwAiOLF/Gg==,,,1499731411 133180527,133191249,2017-07-11 00:06:57,">>133190942 This is great, thanks! Did not notice your first reply, sorry, but this is really nice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499731617 133180527,133191482,2017-07-11 00:09:12,">>133180527 This shit is boring. This is now an AnCap meme thread",,Anonymous,AnCap 6.jpg,gMurJI62xkflrYKJ4nRcXQ==,US,,1499731752 133180527,133191711,2017-07-11 00:11:39,">>133191249 No problem man, I love making this shit, just been fucking around... . . Anyone have any other requests?",,Anonymous,libertflag-01.jpg,QdGAD4h3lbexwRUJMlNzPA==,,,1499731899 133267021,133267021,2017-07-11 15:55:00,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,hoppe_pol_logo.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1499788500 133267021,133267237,2017-07-11 15:57:14,,,Anonymous,OpenBorders2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1499788634 133267021,133267435,2017-07-11 15:58:53,,,Anonymous,libertarian_masterpost.png,N1a+QThhl0g8UaoaMc+JEw==,US,,1499788733 133267021,133267736,2017-07-11 16:01:22,,,Anonymous,lrg_war.png,tRMUExZWMg6+EusS9aE7fA==,US,,1499788882 133475556,133475556,2017-07-13 06:51:37,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DAY OF THE REMOVAL EDITION,Anonymous,Removal.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,US,,1499928697 133475556,133475911,2017-07-13 06:52:04,"THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",,Anonymous,Reading.jpg,7HU8QWOp/+CHcPyJHni3Jw==,US,,1499928724 133475556,133475953,2017-07-13 06:52:43,,,Anonymous,Lewposting.jpg,uddMsf/u7NcLyyLphf3F5g==,US,,1499928763 133475556,133476007,2017-07-13 06:53:42,">Making the World Safe From Democracy (≠ Liberty) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H37JIKFVp7M",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1499928822 133475556,133476088,2017-07-13 06:55:06,"Socialism is always about control, don't be fooled.",,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1499928906 133475556,133476175,2017-07-13 06:56:23,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1499928983 133475556,133476229,2017-07-13 06:57:22,,,Anonymous,Lewposting.jpg,uddMsf/u7NcLyyLphf3F5g==,US,,1499929042 133475556,133476266,2017-07-13 06:58:06,">>133475556 Friendly reminder.",,Anonymous,libertarian kikes.jpg,QLhxG/qS9S8QWyc5yYtz2A==,,,1499929086 133475556,133476398,2017-07-13 07:00:15,">>133476266 >Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism Piss off faggot, they are not the founders of libertarianism. STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places.",,Anonymous,1491993624421s.jpg,jMxqmTLRtjOPwtkKCr7wEg==,US,,1499929215 133475556,133476525,2017-07-13 07:02:37,how can we stop protectionist cucks?,,Anonymous,thinking emoji.png,DOdrpTRFzIi9WZ+87iYWig==,,,1499929357 133475556,133476811,2017-07-13 07:07:12,">>133476525 The least if our worries right now. Fight taxation, socialism and egalitarianism. The rest can follow.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499929632 133475556,133477029,2017-07-13 07:10:56,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499929856 133475556,133477309,2017-07-13 07:15:15,,,Anonymous,gratefulness_by_neetsfagging322297_db86wgl.jpg,+AorT3xeYEwMe2D6YpbaqQ==,US,,1499930115 133475556,133477553,2017-07-13 07:19:08,,,Anonymous,bpuw8sxhjr4y.png,0R57Vo/V/fFC0waf5BMPDQ==,US,,1499930348 133475556,133477931,2017-07-13 07:25:36,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1499930736 133475556,133478239,2017-07-13 07:30:40,hey do you have any of those fliers I'm going to some cities soon and I'd like to litter them about.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499931040 133475556,133478628,2017-07-13 07:36:34,">>133478239 Fliers?",,Anonymous,Means_To_Liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1499931394 133475556,133481595,2017-07-13 08:22:35,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499934155 133475556,133482274,2017-07-13 08:32:20,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1499934740 133475556,133482776,2017-07-13 08:39:16,">>133475556 bump",,Anonymous,,,,,1499935156 133475556,133482822,2017-07-13 08:40:01,"Be honest fellow ancap anons. Obviously pure capitalism is the ideal, but If you were given a choice between an outright authoritarian fascist ethnonationalist revolution in the west, and the continuation of our semi-free social democracies, which would you pick? I'd probably side with the fascists - the current system will inevitably develop into some sickly form of statism eventually, and I might as well enjoy the chance to physically remove some leftist subhumans before the gestapo raids start and all my Ayn Rand books get burned.",,Anonymous,stirner meme.png,rV6FAgaUifPDN1iwNJHz3A==,,,1499935201 133475556,133483023,2017-07-13 08:42:39,">>133482822 Fascist revolution for the same reason, and also because fascism will purify the west ethnically and culturally thereby paving the way for glorious AnCap paradise further down the line while while the SocDem system we have will eventually mutate into a gruesome form of proto-communism while also forever destroying the demographics of the west",,Anonymous,,,,,1499935359 133475556,133483202,2017-07-13 08:45:06,">>133478628 Thank you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499935506 133475556,133483465,2017-07-13 08:48:42,">>133482822 I see our democracies as slowly becoming overtaken by leftism and socialism, a nationalist uprising might be in our favor. However, this might just land us In a ""nationalist"" socialist hellhole. If it was an American Nationalist it might lend itself to Capitalism. And honestly NatCap sounds comfy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499935722 133475556,133483513,2017-07-13 08:49:25,">>133483465 *American Nationalist movement",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499935765 133475556,133483521,2017-07-13 08:49:29,">>133483023 Yeah, it's difficult to deny that white western culture is the only culture in which philosophical individualism (which is the precondition for capitalism in politics) even had a chance. If western culture is actually destroyed, we might be looking at thousands of years of stagnation in slave empires before another 'Greek golden age' begins. Shafarevich's book The Socialist Phenomenon terrifyingly identifies the current trend towards statism not as a local fluctuation in history, but as the end of a 3000 year era of property rights, beginning in the Iron Age, and a return to the antique slavery which prevailed prior to that time. It's chilling stuff - it feels like you're in some kind of apocalyptic sci-fi, reading about some inevitable doom. But I think he's actually right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499935769 133475556,133483576,2017-07-13 08:50:06,Good goyim - The thread,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1499935806 133475556,133483706,2017-07-13 08:52:08,">>133483576 Oy vey, it's the [[[socialists]]] and [[[statists]]] again Give up your individual property rights, slaves - uh, I mean, citizens! Do it for the greater good!",,Anonymous,,,,,1499935928 133475556,133484972,2017-07-13 09:10:55,">>133483576 Yes, white people not wanting to be ruled by the Zog is playing right into the scam, amiright?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499937055 133475556,133486098,2017-07-13 09:25:19,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1499937919 133475556,133487127,2017-07-13 09:38:55,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1499938735 133544588,133544588,2017-07-13 18:53:08,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed] >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,ancapflagdiamnap-01.png,57N8tZ7l20PperhlSHfstQ==,,,1499971988 133544588,133544710,2017-07-13 18:54:26,"Bumping with the flags I've made so far, don't mind me",,Anonymous,liberflagsaltire-01.png,somM/10ZW+h+lpnZPSRolA==,,,1499972066 133544588,133544994,2017-07-13 18:57:02,"official national capitalist discord F29SGp",,Anonymous,1499891845572s.jpg,Fs3cE/3ngnFyBZKDMbE/NA==,,,1499972222 133544588,133545010,2017-07-13 18:57:09,"Here's an alternate version of the NAP flag I made which incorporates Arabic calligraphy to illustrate the same concept, the explanation will be in the next post",,Anonymous,ancapflagsnekayn-01.png,xLLxv8lpUrHY4Bh96U5SAQ==,,,1499972229 133544588,133545774,2017-07-13 19:03:25,I hope this helps to explain the reasoning clearly enough,,Anonymous,explayyn.jpg,UoyPvHXZrlCCycDpzHjOqQ==,,,1499972605 133544588,133546245,2017-07-13 19:07:41,">>133545774 thats pretty nice",,Anonymous,,,,,1499972861 133544588,133546527,2017-07-13 19:10:18,">>133546245 Thanks man. Hang tight in this thread and bump if you wish, because I have a treat for you coming up :)",,Anonymous,,,,,1499973018 133544588,133546609,2017-07-13 19:11:06,">>133546527 nice man bump",,Anonymous,,,,,1499973066 133544588,133546888,2017-07-13 19:13:30,Bumping,,Anonymous,liberflagdsktpgood01.png,C3RdELku4NpYF/aiQE70GA==,US,,1499973210 133544588,133547024,2017-07-13 19:14:38,Inb4 someone posts the Jewish libertarian meme,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170712-062804.png,oC7mLWlIAU0pm+iSahisFA==,US,,1499973278 133544588,133547193,2017-07-13 19:16:03,Anyone else tired of all pro-NN shilling? When did mainstream /pol/ (so to speak) get this dumb?,,Anonymous,1470952221555.png,KTR5YX5CoW7UCZxZxh08Tw==,,,1499973363 133544588,133547216,2017-07-13 19:16:15,,,Anonymous,_20170526_133926.jpg,uUQ05rA/9UVjlKMSEMumLw==,US,,1499973375 133544588,133547421,2017-07-13 19:18:09,">>133545010 >>133545774 arabic ancap sounds pretty rad tbqh. I like it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499973489 133544588,133547437,2017-07-13 19:18:19,,,Anonymous,1491162566636.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1499973499 133544588,133547447,2017-07-13 19:18:26,">>133544994 Here's for you, mate. Seems a bit plain though, lemme see what I can do, hmmm :/.... . . . If you want the vector files for any of these flags so y'all can edit them, just let me know btw",,Anonymous,natcap-01.png,bQ/tWB5ZDY6Xn9brIwF5ow==,,,1499973506 133544588,133547532,2017-07-13 19:19:10,">>133546609 >>133547447",,Anonymous,,,,,1499973550 133544588,133547660,2017-07-13 19:20:24,,,Anonymous,prosper.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,US,,1499973624 133544588,133547795,2017-07-13 19:21:35,,,Anonymous,lrg_war.png,tRMUExZWMg6+EusS9aE7fA==,US,,1499973695 133544588,133547810,2017-07-13 19:21:42,">>133547447 no man dont have them",,Anonymous,,,,,1499973702 133544588,133547896,2017-07-13 19:22:39,,,Anonymous,lrg_full.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1499973759 133544588,133547979,2017-07-13 19:23:31,,,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,8G1fm9Y0/xnxyU54Hl3mBA==,US,,1499973811 133544588,133547994,2017-07-13 19:23:39,">>133547896 I like this, looks like a lot of effort was put into it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499973819 133544588,133548071,2017-07-13 19:24:16,">>133547421 One of these days, I'm going to have the presence of mind to make full-on calligraphy for such an occasion, because Arabs love snakes... Pic related is an example of the Arabic for ""Shadilay"" (this was before I browsed /pol/ and was a full on kekfag) . If I can find it, I'll post the rough draft of an ISIS flag parody I was about to do that had lines from an old Arabic poem about gay bathhouses XD",,Anonymous,shadilayshahadalarge.jpg,AfJ6dMKTkiAO6EG+AuHMaA==,,,1499973856 133544588,133548148,2017-07-13 19:24:57,,,Anonymous,1494106194804.png,Z1B892IcGCKJouzZODOx8Q==,US,,1499973897 133544588,133548237,2017-07-13 19:25:45,">>133548071 >XD",,Anonymous,1497661595519.png,TXThqpakHIo1QVA3qswjuA==,,,1499973945 133544588,133548320,2017-07-13 19:26:22,,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1499973982 133544588,133548428,2017-07-13 19:27:17,">>133547193 t_d",,Anonymous,,,,,1499974037 133544588,133548652,2017-07-13 19:29:02,,,Anonymous,AnarchoCapitalism.png,j5wbFkPBZ5wTXDso5Ejjxg==,US,,1499974142 133544588,133548768,2017-07-13 19:30:04,,,Anonymous,RightLibertarianism.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,US,,1499974204 133544588,133548869,2017-07-13 19:31:03,,,Anonymous,1493810647453.png,z4RpmBmwQpI5EG/2y02Vpg==,US,,1499974263 133544588,133549417,2017-07-13 19:36:16,"> No step on snek Where my Bastiat bros at?",,Anonymous,Ancap-William-Wallace.jpg,tIGi9l42A47Q9jDeMfTZOA==,AU,,1499974576 133544588,133549513,2017-07-13 19:37:15,">>133548148 >yfw when misusing company property is a violation of the NAP so your boss enslaves your kids and takes your house as compensation, as agreed upon in the standard issue McHospital employment contract",,Anonymous,,,,,1499974635 133544588,133549717,2017-07-13 19:39:08,">>133548071 >>133548237 Here's the fake ISIS flag... Explanation: Top text: ""So come, and feast your eyes without restraint!"" Flag circle text: ""In the Bathhouse"" Bottom text: ""You see handsome buttocks, thinly trim torsos"" XDDDD (I think that's a $1400 penalty in your book)",,Anonymous,isisfake.jpg,i8X6mRViEa2Vo1mmAxypkg==,,,1499974748 133544588,133549879,2017-07-13 19:40:38,">>133549717 Now turn it into a proper flag and wave it around at though pro-shariah rallies, if you live in europe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499974838 133544588,133549922,2017-07-13 19:40:58,">>133549879 *those my bad",,Anonymous,,,,,1499974858 133544588,133550179,2017-07-13 19:43:40,">>133549879 >>133549922 I just need to get the patience to do that now haha, that's gonna be a while, but you are right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499975020 133544588,133550224,2017-07-13 19:44:06,"http://archive.is/UjKZh I read like half of the article. Is this guy claiming to be a libertarian while also supporting the EU? Have (((Reason.com))) and its writers gone insane?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499975046 133544588,133551021,2017-07-13 19:51:24,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1499975484 133544588,133551796,2017-07-13 19:59:30,,,Anonymous,WrongBall.jpg,iuNBYErqae+RgMprbPT7lA==,,,1499975970 133544588,133552320,2017-07-13 20:04:24,books,,Anonymous,1499854584184.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,,,1499976264 133544588,133553952,2017-07-13 20:19:54,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1499977194 133544588,133554208,2017-07-13 20:22:01,">>133544588 Reminder that the system Hoppe advocates isn't Ancapism, but whatever he does on his own property is great. Reminder that Pinochet is a dictator, and a horrible person. That's all folks, see you next time on /lrg/!",,Anonymous,ZMpMthq.jpg,8opitnohPy4fqz2jbY+kvA==,,,1499977321 133544588,133554319,2017-07-13 20:23:07,">>133554208 Oh, one more thing. Some of the material usually posted on /lrg/",,Anonymous,pamphlet 2.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,,,1499977387 133544588,133554513,2017-07-13 20:24:51,">>133554208 > Hoppe advocates isn't Ancapism I don't know about that, it seems slightly different only because he arrives at his conclusions himself rather than just painting over the existing literature. He doesn't copy Rothbard, instead of he makes his own logical journey to the same place. I think he's said a few times that he doesn't advocate statism at all despite autistis on here that try to fill in the blanks themselves rather than read his books.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499977491 133544588,133555171,2017-07-13 20:31:04,">>133554208 right wing authoritarianism is a reaction to leftism. I appreciate Pinochet because he repressed communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499977864 133544588,133555571,2017-07-13 20:35:00,">>133554513 >quick side note, I mostly came back to bump a good cause, because I saged the other two and I regret it I can appreciate someone who comes to their own conclusions, and I too disagree with some of the standard Ancap beliefs, but what he wants, he's welcome to do on his property in Ancapistan. But when you get these ""ancaps"" coming in who damn near break their arms jerking him off, it gets on my nerves. Same with the Pinochet fanboys. Yes, he kept the commies out. But lots of ideologies hate commies, they're like the Leafs of ideologies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499978100 133544588,133555731,2017-07-13 20:36:23,">>133555571 100%",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1499978183 133544588,133556075,2017-07-13 20:40:04,"Fuck it, I'll hang out in here for a bit, try to bump a bit. Here's another one of those prefabbed pics for /lrg/",,Anonymous,introduction.jpg,Ct6y00S0WbVLMPr2fEghgg==,,,1499978404 133544588,133556128,2017-07-13 20:40:42,">>133556075 However, I'd like to add that a fantastic book to throw in here is Human Action by Ludwig Von Mises.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499978442 133544588,133557828,2017-07-13 20:57:27,">>133544994 >>133547447 bumping for a new variation on the natcap flag",,Anonymous,,,,,1499979447 133544588,133558440,2017-07-13 21:02:47,">>133557828 Here's the working version until I take my head out of my ass and actually use concentric circles next time. Should the center stay white or keep green?",,Anonymous,natcap2-01.png,vMWMiNsFQ7FcR5z0ccqrBw==,,,1499979767 133544588,133559212,2017-07-13 21:10:34,">>133558440 tnx man it looks really good",,Anonymous,,,,,1499980234 133544588,133559258,2017-07-13 21:11:03,">>133558440 green",,Anonymous,,,,,1499980263 133544588,133559791,2017-07-13 21:16:32,">>133559212 >>133559258 Okie dokie, a better one is coming in a minute",,Anonymous,,,,,1499980592 133544588,133559870,2017-07-13 21:17:34,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1499980654 133544588,133560358,2017-07-13 21:22:42,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1499980962 133544588,133560960,2017-07-13 21:28:37,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1499981317 133544588,133561093,2017-07-13 21:30:05,Let this thread die.,,Anonymous,vargstop.png,LSFveU+s03jJxcIcPr3GnA==,,,1499981405 133544588,133561773,2017-07-13 21:37:15,">>133559212 >>133559258 as requested >>133561093 the ride never ends",,Anonymous,natcapnew-01.png,+ITmK+a6J7h6dNEe8LwUvA==,,,1499981835 133544588,133561828,2017-07-13 21:37:44,">>133561093 no",,Anonymous,,,,,1499981864 133544588,133561853,2017-07-13 21:38:01,">>133561773 tnx m8",,Anonymous,,,,,1499981881 133544588,133561953,2017-07-13 21:39:12,">>133561853 No problem, still fucking with it lol",,Anonymous,,,,,1499981952 133544588,133562188,2017-07-13 21:41:47,">>133561093 One of the only good generals on /pol/. and you want us to let it die? I agree that this thread isn't doing too well, but that's not an option.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499982107 133544588,133563323,2017-07-13 21:53:10,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1499982790 133544588,133563414,2017-07-13 21:54:15,">>133561093 Go away varg.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499982855 133544588,133563874,2017-07-13 21:58:32,">>133559212 >>133559791 >>133559870 >>133560358 >>133560960 last one tonight, I promise lol. Pretty austere, but the RGB color values represent real gold and silver on the outside, emerald/dollar green on the inside, and diamond blue on the dollar sign. Seems more appropriate than Gadsden flag yellow desu, idk if you'll prefer this one though.",,Anonymous,natcapgold-01.png,Rb3FBTBoQ7i4FGuo+7FFbQ==,,,1499983112 133544588,133564753,2017-07-13 22:07:37,A reminder that libertarianism is inherently leftist due to championing individual rights and not the rights of the family.,,Anonymous,1479671227174.jpg,6G9p1yAMyt8mxCTQlMDOvA==,US,,1499983657 133544588,133566445,2017-07-13 22:26:19,">>133564753 That's an absolutely retarded view of the right/left spectrum.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499984779 133544588,133566631,2017-07-13 22:28:30,">>133564753 Oh well I guess we're leftists then.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499984910 133544588,133566682,2017-07-13 22:29:05,">>133561093 Fuck off. I've been waiting for an lrg for a while now",,Anonymous,,,,,1499984945 133544588,133566972,2017-07-13 22:32:16,Communism is the next step to global peace,,DJT,,,,,1499985136 133544588,133567177,2017-07-13 22:34:29,"Are we pro or anti Net Neutrality? Why?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499985269 133544588,133567424,2017-07-13 22:37:02,">>133564753 Fuck. I thought I endorsed private property and was against collectivism and sheeit. But according to you I'm a commie. Guess it's time to go full bernie sanders.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499985422 133544588,133567523,2017-07-13 22:37:56,">>133567177 Are you libertarian? Think about whether the government has the right to regulate the internet or not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499985476 133544588,133567593,2017-07-13 22:38:48,">>133567424 You're right, we're all fucking Marxists. We might as well change our flags",,Anonymous,,,,,1499985528 133544588,133567644,2017-07-13 22:39:22,">>133566972 Despite the fact that communism has only ever caused conflict?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499985562 133544588,133567669,2017-07-13 22:39:39,">>133566972 Kys. That will bring me peace.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499985579 133544588,133567925,2017-07-13 22:42:32,">>133567523 Then why is pol claiming that even pol/tarians supported NN?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499985752 133544588,133568380,2017-07-13 22:47:32,">>133567925 From what I've seen recently, about 40% of the people on /pol/ are anti-NN. I haven't seen many libertarians that are for NN.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499986052 133544588,133568625,2017-07-13 22:50:32,">>133568380 Well yeah, I'm one of those that try to expose the stupidity that is NN. The dissenters made it sound like all of pol, including old school libertarian pol sports NN. Just making sure I'm not crazy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499986232 133544588,133568786,2017-07-13 22:52:17,">>133566682 What are you doing with a gadsden flag? Libertarianism is inherently leftist; start using the commie flag faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499986337 133544588,133569034,2017-07-13 22:55:00,">>133568786 true true true",,Anonymous,,,,,1499986500 133544588,133569322,2017-07-13 22:57:54,">>133569034 /lrg/ should use the commie flag from now on. It would confuse the fuck out of actual leftists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499986674 133544588,133569474,2017-07-13 22:59:29,">>133544588 Which one of these isms wasn't created by a jew. Libertarianism, objectivism, and of course communism are all jewish I know. Liberalism in the modern sense has been co-opted by the jews. I guess the better question is why do we goyim have to choose between which jewish or kosher-approved socio-political ""philosophy"" is better. I'd prefer to exterminate every single jew on this planet. There are only like 14 million of them. And come up with our own ism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499986769 133544588,133569645,2017-07-13 23:01:24,">>133569474 see >>133547024",,Anonymous,,,,,1499986884 133544588,133569792,2017-07-13 23:03:17,">>133566972 Also, why the fuck are you using a name? >DJT",,Anonymous,,,,,1499986997 133544588,133569933,2017-07-13 23:05:09,">>133547024 >hating Friedman I've never understood this. Friedman and other Chicago school of thought economists, like Sowell, are often times conservatives like myself first step into libertarianism. You should be supporting and helping people get to a Austrian school of thought by expanding on Friedman's ideas, not shitting on them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499987109 133544588,133569942,2017-07-13 23:05:11,"Can someone recomend my a book about libertarian banking. I know the fed is shit, but Im skeptical about any physical backing for currency. For example, you open a gold mine and the value of gold (and thus your currency) plummets. What are some books/videos that SIMPLY explain 100% banking or some other form of non usury banking?",,Anonymous,hoppe with a parrot.jpg,zGDxaE9nc/zJabg+7ToANQ==,US,,1499987111 133544588,133570572,2017-07-13 23:12:27,">>133544588 >libertarian right >thinks ""hmmmmm im a strong independent man who needs no gubment"" >gets his house broken into by a band of niggers who hold him at gunpoint while they take turns on his wife and daughters before executing him and forcing his women to bare halfbreeds yes yes good job lrg",,Anonymous,,,,,1499987547 133544588,133570729,2017-07-13 23:14:22,">>133570572 What",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499987662 133544588,133570896,2017-07-13 23:16:03,">>133570572 >implying government stops that from happening >implying any self-respecting libertarian with a family wouldn't own guns to protect his children Are you retarded?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499987763 133544588,133571064,2017-07-13 23:18:03,">>133563874 I love it.",,Anonymous,1499555876109.jpg,xnh5dSvIa+iQULJkw4JRxw==,US,,1499987883 133544588,133571274,2017-07-13 23:20:22,">>133544994 Capitalist don't need a flag we already have one.",,Anonymous,american-flag.jpg,7ANHOiwLvTQjWilxmNca4w==,US,,1499988022 133544588,133571453,2017-07-13 23:22:37,">>133571274 But it does work for an Objectivist flag. I'd still post as America though. Will love this flag forever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499988157 133544588,133571637,2017-07-13 23:24:44,">>133547896 Guys I want to make a Ayn Rand/Dagny Taggart tulpa. How hard should I free market my ideas?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499988284 133544588,133571829,2017-07-13 23:26:42,">>133571453 libertarianism is inherently leftist; start using commie flag now. >>133564753",,Anonymous,,,,,1499988402 133544588,133572201,2017-07-13 23:30:33,"wtf are you faggots on about? If you can't hang, neck yourselves. Simple as that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499988633 133544588,133572455,2017-07-13 23:33:20,">>133571274 You idiot, that's a globalist banker flag",,Anonymous,1498007484487.jpg,pAryU1EbzRgAoo6FKY8/9Q==,,,1499988800 133544588,133572682,2017-07-13 23:35:41,">>133554208 Pinochet is gud boi, he dindu nuffin",,Anonymous,IMG_0347.jpg,ZLm4d/PhB9KpFcrNhhMSjw==,MX,,1499988941 133544588,133572940,2017-07-13 23:38:31,">>133558440 Wavy green to represent the distorting effects of legal weed on an otherwise stable libertarian social order. I love it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499989111 133544588,133573266,2017-07-13 23:42:18,">>133572940 You could interpret it as such, I didn't see it that way; I see myself as having ancap sympathies, not natcap... What do you make of >>133563874 then? My other works on the board, perhaps?",,Anonymous,,,,,1499989338 133544588,133573376,2017-07-13 23:43:35,">>133572940 I will say I made the waves to demonstrate the capitalist's desire to manipulate his customers' reality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499989415 133544588,133573489,2017-07-13 23:44:57,>>133547447,,Anonymous,natcapconcept2.jpg,5LV+esoJUeHBzjll4KT6Rw==,,,1499989497 133544588,133573617,2017-07-13 23:46:37,">>133573489 What do you envision in this design? To be honest, I'd incorporate a vaporwave influence on this design and use some gradient color schemes with filter distortion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499989597 133544588,133573731,2017-07-13 23:47:44,">>133573617 generally i find too much yellow to be hard on the eyes, so i made the primary color black, while putting the dollar sign firmly in the forefront",,Anonymous,,,,,1499989664 133544588,133574026,2017-07-13 23:51:11,">>133573731 I see. try doing some gradiations, I think you'd like it. I'm away from my workstation now, so I can't take a crack at it now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499989871 133544588,133575957,2017-07-14 00:12:22,">>133574026 like this?",,Anonymous,natcapconcept2vapor2.png,xICE+nc9eSd7gMcuB1ef7A==,,,1499991142 133544588,133576309,2017-07-14 00:16:16,">>133575957 Wow, yeah. That looks pretty damn good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1499991376 133548245,133548245,2017-07-13 19:25:48,"""Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God"" - Benjamin Franklin This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,file.png,Pu5xylgJhwIoBUFbfPff7A==,GB,,1499973948 133548245,133548361,2017-07-13 19:26:41,">>133548245 is that a giant pussy in the sky?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1499974001 133548245,133548617,2017-07-13 19:28:41,">>133548361 An explosion, I guess?",,Anonymous,file.png,RE27JYtCdYXAYWZSohD01w==,GB,,1499974121 133548245,133548650,2017-07-13 19:28:58,">>133548361 looks like theyre summoning the anti-christ",,Anonymous,,,,,1499974138 133548245,133548662,2017-07-13 19:29:07,">>133548361 i think its one of these things",,Anonymous,11430273_800415003399884_767482322_n.jpg,ZElaEGHcT5QPu/DTNlMUow==,US,,1499974147 133548245,133548911,2017-07-13 19:31:29,">>133548361 >>133548650 >>133548662 It's a pillar from the sky - this is what the seal was described as, the images I posted were apparently drawn at a later date. This is a suggested seal for the US in 1776.",,Anonymous,file.png,5p+RIYN9ix73SPDkhO4pOA==,GB,,1499974289 133652349,133652349,2017-07-14 16:29:22,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1499943097943.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,,,1500049762 133652349,133652553,2017-07-14 16:31:22,"What’s your best indicator of President Trump’s performance right now? Pic related is mine. >all time high again Yeah I’d say he’s doing pretty good",,Anonymous,IMG_1108.jpg,npgEHYdIGaY/ywTpXIzoZg==,,,1500049882 133652349,133652905,2017-07-14 16:34:56,">>133652553 >Dow jones >being an actual indicator of how good an economy while fed still has mass control over currency are you even libertarian its gonna collapse again soon sadly",,Anonymous,walkintodaclub.gif,gJjTfZ1QtivI/aSNidS4xA==,US,,1500050096 133652349,133653267,2017-07-14 16:38:32,">>133652553 >thinking the president has any control over how an economy is doing Anon, the general trend is up. The only thing that stops that is socialism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500050312 133652349,133653295,2017-07-14 16:38:52,Just made this. Any Austrians here to approve?,,Anonymous,austria-gadsden.png,i/pdyZ45H0E4DfxE9IqhPw==,AT,,1500050332 133652349,133653316,2017-07-14 16:39:08,">>133652553 Yeah, ever since he became president the economy has really taken a turn. Fucking retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500050348 133652349,133653602,2017-07-14 16:42:08,We need this guy in september to be a bit more to the libertarian right,,Anonymous,christian-lindner-fdp-chef.jpg,XFwrWlEkLG8VHfawQhEJGQ==,DE,,1500050528 133652349,133653995,2017-07-14 16:46:36,We need a solution to the Soros-bought nazbol posters that turned up overnight last month and started turning /pol/ Marxist. A lot of it is just shitposting but I can feel the LRG/Fascist alliance losing its grip on /pol/'s content,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500050796 133652349,133655995,2017-07-14 17:08:37,>>133652553,,Anonymous,0080.jpg,/nLaiBU/E5kBGibriEDBmg==,ES,,1500052117 133652349,133656894,2017-07-14 17:18:07,">>133655995 If that's the bubble, then what's it going to be like when it bursts? It's three times bigger than the other ones.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500052687 133652349,133657224,2017-07-14 17:21:54,">>133656894 No, because that requires you to know where the bubble will land after it bursts. Might collapse all the way to 0, might be at 2000 less than the 2008 crisis, which halved the index). There are always bubbles, but it's the overall tendency that matters: consistently linear. Don't sell at the dip.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1500052914 133652349,133658358,2017-07-14 17:33:27,">>133653295 Approved",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500053607 133673435,133673435,2017-07-14 20:07:52,"""Libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives"" - Hans Hermann-Hoppe This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,pol_ancap_logo.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,GB,,1500062872 133673435,133673570,2017-07-14 20:09:12,Helicopter rides for all rebbitors when?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500062952 133673435,133673631,2017-07-14 20:09:47,"I might as well bump this thread, got nothing better to do",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500062987 133673435,133673780,2017-07-14 20:11:14,What the fuck is this shit?,,Anonymous,file.png,N5+p04FAuanvRP4iPPmI7Q==,GB,,1500063074 133673435,133673881,2017-07-14 20:12:10,"finally found one you are a bong, why do you make them always so late?",,Anonymous,1458058931025.jpg,3USIsBJKWyc4thNH/otjjA==,,,1500063130 133673435,133674074,2017-07-14 20:14:16,">>133673780 Digital communism.",,Anonymous,hoppe_pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,US,,1500063256 133673435,133674077,2017-07-14 20:14:18,">>133673881 >you are a bong, why do you make them always so late? I have terrible sleep habits, and tend to post them later on in the day anyway - I figure there won't be many posters early.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500063258 133673435,133674149,2017-07-14 20:15:10,Are all Americans libertarians?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1500063310 133673435,133674240,2017-07-14 20:16:14,">>133674149 American nationalism is Libertarianism. So, yeah there's a lot of Libertarians in America.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500063374 133673435,133674319,2017-07-14 20:17:09,,,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,,,1500063429 133673435,133674507,2017-07-14 20:19:15,,,Anonymous,1486768386433.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,,,1500063555 133673435,133674555,2017-07-14 20:19:48,">>133674149 Just about all of Appalachia is. We just want to be left the fuck alone for the most part.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500063588 133673435,133674631,2017-07-14 20:20:33,Wassap my freedom loving brothers?,,Anonymous,1498071159275.png,hkilyxdDI6suWDimCn7vZg==,,,1500063633 133673435,133674633,2017-07-14 20:20:34,">>133674077 I guess there are mostly mericans here, but opening a thread at 2:15 doesn't help my sleeping habits either, guess it will be a long night.",,Anonymous,18732461_m.jpg,9SAaAaPHk4U+KRURxU9NMw==,,,1500063634 133673435,133674741,2017-07-14 20:21:39,">>133674240 There seems to be a lot of crypto-fascists and fascists in America too. Most of the ones I meet online are definitely American. Libertarians tend to be very present worldwide, with a strange amount in Brazil. Makes sense, average american is white enough to hate niggers and spics, not white enough to take personal responsibility.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500063699 133673435,133674847,2017-07-14 20:22:43,">>133674149 A good amount of them. Gun ownership helps with that number.",,Anonymous,18057631_10155097290008449_4842639232915716900_n.jpg,BMKIbwxPm915b0oD7GcJKw==,US,,1500063763 133673435,133674849,2017-07-14 20:22:44,">>133674633 >2:15 Where you live senpai? I should make an effort to put these up earlier and more consistently. Shouldn't be too much of a difference, I reason when this thread is slow, the rest of the board should be too.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500063764 133673435,133675043,2017-07-14 20:24:39,">>133674849 I am living on the continent, island-chan.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1500063879 133673435,133675187,2017-07-14 20:25:58,">>133674240 Its more just liberalism. but ya, that's the right idea. > For since it can never be supposed to be the will of the society that the legislative should have a power to destroy that which every one designs to secure by entering into society, and for which the people submitted themselves to legislators of their own making: whenever the legislators endeavour to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.",,Anonymous,anzio.jpg,ZpPKIrtBBDxiLhL3jbpmjw==,,,1500063958 133673435,133675345,2017-07-14 20:27:26,">>133675187 Based locke",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500064046 133673435,133675625,2017-07-14 20:30:06,">>133673435 Need a new Friedman for 1980s 2.0",,Anonymous,IMG_0556.png,hO3cvXUNsxr++O0ChyJGzQ==,AU,,1500064206 133673435,133675992,2017-07-14 20:33:43,Conservatism and libertarianism are not compatible.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064423 133673435,133676036,2017-07-14 20:34:11,">>133673435 Who will build the roads?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1500064451 133673435,133676102,2017-07-14 20:34:43,How the fuck is Hoppe not an authoritarian?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064483 133673435,133676191,2017-07-14 20:35:33,">>133676102 he is but not by means of the state but by private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500064533 133673435,133676220,2017-07-14 20:35:46,"Funny, you link David Friedman's book. Isn't he one of those open borders advocates you fake libertarians hate so much?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064546 133673435,133676261,2017-07-14 20:36:02,">>133675992 Nice meme. >>133676102 Nothing Hoppe advocates is statism, what ever do you mean?",,Anonymous,1490024308005.jpg,Grw9oJ1492NpHa45Q6f97g==,,,1500064562 133673435,133676274,2017-07-14 20:36:08,">>133676102 Why would he be? He's compliant with the NAP and libertarian ethics.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500064568 133673435,133676315,2017-07-14 20:36:36,">>133676036 the commies in the work camps.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500064596 133673435,133676463,2017-07-14 20:38:03,">>133673435 How long until there is an actual effort in locking up the key swamp members",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064683 133673435,133676473,2017-07-14 20:38:12,">>133676315 this is true, welfare recipients are public property that should be privatized.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500064692 133673435,133676529,2017-07-14 20:38:46,">>133676274 Hoppe is delusional. He wouldn't see the outcome he wants in an anarcho-capitalist society outside of small closed-gate communities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064726 133673435,133676554,2017-07-14 20:38:58,">>133676036 > Trust the free market. Pic related",,Anonymous,IMG_0369.jpg,TZjoRnPkPOR+DXFukSKijw==,AU,,1500064738 133673435,133676647,2017-07-14 20:39:50,">>133676463 there is effort, but /ourguys/ can't be overt. You wont see it coming.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500064790 133673435,133676680,2017-07-14 20:40:04,">>133676529 > outside of small closed-gate communities but anon, that's exactly what he wanted",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500064804 133673435,133676813,2017-07-14 20:41:22,">>133676473 so can we say they have finally become the thing they love the most?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500064882 133673435,133676827,2017-07-14 20:41:27,">>133676529 Anarcho-Capitalism is a world of gated communities.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500064887 133673435,133676946,2017-07-14 20:42:42,">>133676473 I would say its more of a lease.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500064962 133673435,133677064,2017-07-14 20:43:55,">>133676274 ""physical removal"" is authoritarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500065035 133673435,133677094,2017-07-14 20:44:11,">>133676813 workers? Yeah, either that or a red splatter that will have to be scraped off the private roads.",,Anonymous,pino2.jpg,9XYAULKNs1oQEYTjADbAmQ==,,,1500065051 133673435,133677096,2017-07-14 20:44:11,">>133673435 Libertarians create Weimar Republics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500065051 133673435,133677135,2017-07-14 20:44:39,">>133677064 No one has a right to my property. I can physically remove anyone I want.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500065079 133673435,133677174,2017-07-14 20:45:05,">>133677064 Exercising the right to discriminate isn't authoritarian.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500065105 133673435,133677262,2017-07-14 20:45:56,">>133677096 Desperation cause by socialist wars created the Weimar Republic. But you never learn.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500065156 133673435,133677312,2017-07-14 20:46:27,">>133677064 Anarcho Capitalism is inherently authoritariam. You are the king of your private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500065187 133673435,133677331,2017-07-14 20:46:40,">>133677094 no I meant public property, so they can finally transcend into their dream of not owning their life anymore before they get privatized.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500065200 133673435,133677356,2017-07-14 20:46:51,am I accepted here?,,Anonymous,chart.png,mOfG/iuubwuF1J+JuJIwcQ==,PT,,1500065211 133673435,133677456,2017-07-14 20:47:56,">>133677064 yes it is but it doesn't effect anyone who has no business with the property owner. authority doesn't automatically mean statism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500065276 133673435,133677528,2017-07-14 20:48:30,">>133677096 Pic related >>133677356 Depends. Do you believe in the NAP and private property?",,Anonymous,left vs right.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1500065310 133673435,133677695,2017-07-14 20:50:09,">>133677356 Depends, answer this question: >Do you own yourself and thus your labour?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500065409 133673435,133677724,2017-07-14 20:50:22,">>133677356 you like property? you hate communists? you're cool, just dont tread on me or 1776 will commence.",,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,,,1500065422 133673435,133677850,2017-07-14 20:51:26,is anprim left or right?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500065486 133673435,133677862,2017-07-14 20:51:31,">>133677528 >NAP sure unless you're a commie 2bh, nothing wrong with being aggressive against communists >private property definitely",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1500065491 133673435,133677954,2017-07-14 20:52:26,">>133677850 neither, its just dumb >>133677862 communists are agressors against property be default. all attacks on them is self defense imo",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1500065546 133673435,133678156,2017-07-14 20:54:26,">>133677954 You're insane. Holding communists beliefs does not violate anybody's property rights per se.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500065666 133673435,133678285,2017-07-14 20:55:43,">>133678156 You're insane if you believe that.",,Anonymous,1498168013982.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1500065743 133673435,133678344,2017-07-14 20:56:09,">>133677954 >communists are agressors against property be default. all attacks on them is self defense imo you should even kick them out of your town when they officially form a group, it is just as much as a thread as when some thug tells you I will rob you the moment you go on vacation.",,Anonymous,Honoka2.jpg,/h5Wxa0g2U6CDnjy/dvEfw==,,,1500065769 133673435,133678346,2017-07-14 20:56:12,">>133678156 Does suicide violate nap?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500065772 133673435,133678348,2017-07-14 20:56:14,">>133678156 yeah, and calling yourself a christian doesn't really make you one. LARPers will die because they're useless idiots instead of me giving them a free ride.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500065774 133673435,133678410,2017-07-14 20:56:55,">>133678346 your body is your property. No, its just really stupid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500065815 133673435,133678445,2017-07-14 20:57:14,">>133677862 >>133678156 >>133678285 >>133678344 Being a communist does not violate NAP per se, but realistically we should deny all access to our property towards them - thus, physical removal.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500065834 133673435,133678757,2017-07-14 21:00:53,">>133678445 If you use physical violence against individuals who have not initiated violence against you, you are in fact that one violating the non-aggression principle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500066053 133673435,133678830,2017-07-14 21:01:37,">>133678445 having people you openly admit they want to steal your property, the moment they get a chance inside your town will lower the values of your property and hinders people to invest in your town. and if you won't do something about them they will attract more commies to their rathole, this goes on until they are strong enough to take your property and kill you if you resist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500066097 133673435,133679105,2017-07-14 21:04:24,">>133678757 Not if it's removing them from my private property.",,Anonymous,Argh!.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,,,1500066264 133673435,133679485,2017-07-14 21:08:12,">>133678757 so you have to wait until someone does you harm before you defend yourself. imagine a well known alcoholic in your community goes around every evening threatening people and some day someone will shoot him, you think your fellow men in the community have a problem with it? that's why I can't it is something people overthink too much, people could live together for thousands of years in europe without nap and without a strong state, it is just civilisation based on property, in the end it all comes down to the culture and it's values in which you live. a shithole in the middle east will never accept the nap.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500066492 133673435,133679764,2017-07-14 21:11:14,">>133679485 coercion is threat, telling me you're gonna ""seize the means or production"" is enough. It's very easy to prove the violent tendenceis of communists.",,Anonymous,HoppeFlag.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,,,1500066674 133673435,133679790,2017-07-14 21:11:39,">>133679105 Communists, as is, don't have the right to enter your house without your approval.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500066699 133673435,133679905,2017-07-14 21:12:51,">>133679790 Every squared centimeter would be privatised, it wouldn't be just my house. No sane private property owner would like to have communists on their property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500066771 133673435,133679971,2017-07-14 21:13:34,">>133679764 with your definition of the nap i am more than ok.",,Anonymous,miki3.jpg,RFUbjX9pgudw3G9G5/FZ5w==,,,1500066814 133673435,133680102,2017-07-14 21:14:53,">>133679905 People don't think like you, dude. Private property owners generally don't mind associating with communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500066893 133673435,133680199,2017-07-14 21:16:08,">>133680102 Flag related. Also this > >>133679764",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1500066968 133673435,133680200,2017-07-14 21:16:09,">>133679971 You own your body and therefore, your actions. If you point at a gun for me I don't have to wait for you pull the trigger.",,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,,,1500066969 133673435,133680324,2017-07-14 21:17:35,">>133676102 It isn't his fault that idiots keep misappropriating his shit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500067055 133673435,133680432,2017-07-14 21:18:43,">>133680200 >If you point at a gun for me I don't have to wait for you pull the trigger. yeah exactly what I meant, when someone declares himself a communist it implies his tendencies to steal your property by force if necessary and it is the only logical reason to expel them from your community then, maybe tar and feather them so everyone can see that he is a thug when he arrives in another town.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500067123 133673435,133680577,2017-07-14 21:20:29,">>133680432 You're not a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500067229 133673435,133680716,2017-07-14 21:21:56,">>133680577 >You're not a libertarian. yes, but I like libertarians",,Anonymous,,,,,1500067316 133673435,133681336,2017-07-14 21:28:33,">>133676191 Which is to say not an authoritarian. If I force someone off my private property I have not violated his rights in any way but merely defended my own. >>133678757 Let's say that you walk into a room and, realizing it's empty, you turn around and try to leave, only to be blocked in by someone wielding a gun. The man's body is wide enough and tall enough to block the entire entrance. You ask him to move, but he refuses. You also happen to be carrying a gun. You are slowly going to die of dehydration unless you escape this room, do you violate the NAP? Would your answer change if this was happening in your home? How about on unowned property (i.e. an old house in a forest whose owner has died and no one has yet bought)?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500067713 133673435,133681536,2017-07-14 21:30:49,">>133681336 >Which is to say not an authoritarian. If I force someone off my private property I have not violated his rights in any way but merely defended my own. yes but you have full authority over your property. as I said before authority isn't automatically authority enforced by the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500067849 133673435,133681871,2017-07-14 21:34:21,">>133680577 I have aways maintained that animals can not be granted human rights because they are unable to accept and respect the human rights of others. Same goes for communists. Also We are what is neccesary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500068061 133673435,133682090,2017-07-14 21:36:58,">>133681536 Ah, I missed that. Apologies. I assumed you were using the classic definition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500068218 133673435,133682510,2017-07-14 21:42:06,">>133681536 You're right but I wish people would stop equivocating property rights enforcement with state coercion, like That Guy T who made a video about ""libertarian fascism"" which is the dumbest shit I've heard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500068526 133673435,133682942,2017-07-14 21:47:29,">>133682090 no problem, that's why I only really visit the libertarian threads on /pol/ here are people who can actually discuss things without going into an autistic rant. >>133682510 well I don't even need a state for this, also looking back on the history of europe a state even hinders people to flourish. but have to say I haven't watched the video.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500068849 133673435,133684562,2017-07-14 22:06:43,bump.,,Anonymous,snek (17).png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,,,1500070003 133673435,133684667,2017-07-14 22:07:55,">>133675992 >being this retarded Keep believing that libertarianism is a leftist concept, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500070075 133673435,133684807,2017-07-14 22:09:23,">>133676680 this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500070163 133673435,133684843,2017-07-14 22:09:51,"Honest question, what happens when someone violates the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500070191 133673435,133684859,2017-07-14 22:10:05,">>133676529 Have you read his shit? Do you understand any of his ideas?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500070205 133673435,133685084,2017-07-14 22:12:41,">>133677064 Let me lay this out at a kindergarten level: >property rights exist >communists are trying to abolish property >therefore, communists are violating property rights >The use of force against communists is then justified. Use some basic logic before you post on this thread, please.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500070361 133673435,133685136,2017-07-14 22:13:13,">>133684859 >Do you understand any of his ideas Well to be fair you're commie and that said, Do you understand anything about communism?",,Anonymous,1496984550541.gif,m7DPtSpreCo2Mnx4n7VUWg==,,,1500070393 133673435,133685160,2017-07-14 22:13:30,">>133678410 Exactly",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500070410 133673435,133685400,2017-07-14 22:16:03,">>133685136 >being this autistic he's clearly not a communist",,Anonymous,,,,,1500070563 133673435,133685856,2017-07-14 22:20:54,">>133685136 I only use this flag because some faggot said ""libertarianism is inherently leftist""; I figured I'd have some fun with RPing as a communist. Honestly, I just forgot to change the flag from a few days ago.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500070854 133673435,133685933,2017-07-14 22:21:51,">>133685136 also that gif is fucking amazing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500070911 133673435,133688205,2017-07-14 22:47:11,Bump.,,Anonymous,Eagle.png,yrHf5uXPnkPP+29fTZTlxA==,,,1500072431 133673435,133688830,2017-07-14 22:54:32,,,Anonymous,Picarda.png,+v5HRsCY61w5oQJg4PkJNw==,,,1500072872 133673435,133688966,2017-07-14 22:55:53,,,Anonymous,Picarda.png,5wgXPt6u7wPa1RvYUXb/2A==,,,1500072953 133673435,133691053,2017-07-14 23:19:19,">>133688966 saved",,Anonymous,lrg_hoppe.png,6Fri1z1L+n6co21Xqo1oqA==,GB,,1500074359 133673435,133692469,2017-07-14 23:35:25,"If one believes in the gold standard, what happens when a new gold mine is opened up and the value of the currency goes way down? How is the price of gold more stable then a fiat currency?",,Anonymous,gold.jpg,zTMPFY4X3+miYi4OGwBi4A==,US,,1500075325 133673435,133692939,2017-07-14 23:41:06,All hail the NAP,,Anonymous,1499986388153.png,57N8tZ7l20PperhlSHfstQ==,,,1500075666 133673435,133693900,2017-07-14 23:52:45,"What's your favourite ghost story, /lrg/? Mine is the NAP.",,Anonymous,499341483222244602.jpg,xYh1IO++P0T11bCARb9I4Q==,US,,1500076365 133673435,133693984,2017-07-14 23:53:45,">>133688205 Are you serious? Tim Mcveigh? What's wrong with you people? You're not libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500076425 133673435,133694567,2017-07-15 00:01:27,">>133674149 no, pretty much all Americans are liberals. And libertarian is right-wing liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500076887 133673435,133695531,2017-07-15 00:14:24,">>133694567 Mainstream libertarianism maybe. Liberalism believes in public property and democracy, I think you'll find a lot of the people here don't believe in either.",,Anonymous,ancap andy.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,,,1500077664 133673435,133695623,2017-07-15 00:15:48,">>133695531 People in this thread are neither liberal or libertarian. You people admire mass murderers like Tim McVeigh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500077748 133673435,133696246,2017-07-15 00:24:57,">>133695623 Timothy McVeigh love is just a meme. I condone killing commies, but McVeigh got innocents caught up in his attack. For that I can't condone his actions. Dude shoulda been smarter about that. Also, how is anything in this board not libertarian? Communists aren't people, how is killing animals violate the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500078297 133673435,133696264,2017-07-15 00:25:09,Is Libertarian Fascism possible?,,Anonymous,,,,,1500078309 133673435,133696275,2017-07-15 00:25:16,">>133695531 I believe in some private property (roads). And I believe in some democracy (educated, married, non criminals)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500078316 133673435,133696576,2017-07-15 00:29:34,">>133677064 this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500078574 133673435,133697191,2017-07-15 00:37:47,">>133696275 We had a democracy like that here in the US, you know what happened? The land-owning, white, men with families and no criminal record gradually opened up voting rights to everybody. That's how we got into this current mess. Or rather Congress did that on their behalf. This happened in Britain, France, and every other democracy in history. Democracy leads to socialism leads to communism. There's no getting around it. >>133696264 Fascism itself isn't even really possible. After the sovereign is dead, what happens? Who takes over? And if the sovereign isn't even sure who takes over, why would they bother improving the country so it can survive beyond their lifetime? If another party member takes over you get the same problem you just had ad infinitum until the system collapses as the current ruler doesn't know which party member will take over when they die and aren't invested in them. Monarchy is the only autocratic system that works. Monarchs are already invested in their heirs since they fathered them, and they can plan in the long-term so that the kingdom their children inherit can prosper under them. We know that the king's son will be about as good as the king because the king will teach the son to rule (not to mention having access to scholars and tutors from a private education system).",,Anonymous,,,,,1500079067 133673435,133697595,2017-07-15 00:42:59,What's /lrg/'s stance on net neutrality?,,Anonymous,1454727413298.png,dmxtt9W62e8UGR9dKwjgpA==,,,1500079379 133673435,133697756,2017-07-15 00:44:51,">>133697595 it's a shit regulation for kids who want free netflix and think bandwidth is infinite netflix takes up 37% of bandwidth in the us",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500079491 133673435,133697775,2017-07-15 00:45:05,">>133697191 What would stop a monarchy from experiencing the same problems as a fascist regime? What if a King goes mad Or a regicide occurs before an heir is selected?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500079505 133673435,133697837,2017-07-15 00:45:43,"/lrg/ is based as an argumentative aggregate, but Libertarianism is incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk Objectivism is Nationalist, Capitalist, Individualist, Egoist, Libertarian, Minarchist, and Meritocratic all rolled into one. Reminder that all these smear attempts by commie, cyrpto-commie, and NatSoc shills of Ayn Rand are borne out of their gut wrenching realization that Objectivism is the greatest threat they have ever encountered which is why they cannot even bear to have it discussed as a philosophy. ALL of the andversaries she descibes in her novels are EXACTLY what /pol/ describes as the sterotypical kike. Kikes exist but Rand is quite literally the most based jew to ever live. I do not exaggerate. Reminder that Cultural Marxists are terrified of Ayn Rand as she represents the American Constution completed. Epistemologically validated, metaphysically defined, and ethically expanded. Also regarding AnCaps: reminder that while AnCapism means well and is certainly preferable to statism but is utterly inferior to Laissez-faire Capitalism. LfCap>AnCap for the same reason Minarchism>Anarchism and THAT is because objective law>polycentric law. Read a little of these lexicons to discover why. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anarchism.html https://fee.org/articles/the-nature-of-government-by-ayn-rand/ Ayn Rand's criticism of pure anarchism is irrefutable, especially in C:TUI and TVoS. I like Molymeme but a case against anarchism can be observed in his attempt, and failure, to ""rebutt"" Ayn Rand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My2sLnHpyG4 Observe the comment section.",,Anonymous,1499480289469.jpg,f0Xipq2IaVZB0GrzYWaGyg==,US,,1500079543 133673435,133698047,2017-07-15 00:48:27,">>133697595 For an Objectivist's: https://ari.aynrand.org/issues/government-and-business/capitalism/Net-Neutrality-vs-Internet-Freedom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500079707 133673435,133698104,2017-07-15 00:49:09,">>133677528 Explain like my genetic IQ is that of the american black (85), and why I should give a damn when I get foodstamps and section 8 housing along with the rest of my family.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500079749 133673435,133698130,2017-07-15 00:49:30,">>133697837 Here's a (you)",,Anonymous,1499997512812.png,Rb3FBTBoQ7i4FGuo+7FFbQ==,,,1500079770 133673435,133698261,2017-07-15 00:51:01,">>133697775 Then if the monarch had a brother, it goes to his kid. If the brother had no kids it goes to the brother. If he has no brother, it goes to the uncle's kids. If the uncle has no kids, it goes to the uncle. And so on. This is the way the English crown works, and that's survived for a thousand years, so I'd say it's a good model to work off of. >>133697837 >>133698047 The only part about objectivism is how the philosophy requires atheism. How does a religious person fit into an objectivist society?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500079861 133673435,133698450,2017-07-15 00:53:42,"LIBERTARIAN SIM CITY https://youtube.com/watch?v=qLWuwicKgh4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500080022 133673435,133698737,2017-07-15 00:57:37,">>133697775 Yes, but what would stop a fascist from setting up a similar chain of command? ie party leader, cabinet members, etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500080257 133673435,133699480,2017-07-15 01:07:14,">>133698261 Let me take an indirect attemp to answer you. I actually intend to one day write a book called ""Atheism Minus"". Opposed to the left's brainwashy ""Atheism Plus"". I found a youtube comment that succinctly encapsulated at least one small part of the prose the book will one day contain. Writen by a well spoken christfag Enjoy: >Objectivism and Christianity can be reconciled if you don't allow other men to have unquestionable authority over your belief system and you recognize that religion is an art form of a very abstract truth and God is synonymous with that Truth. In Christianity if you seek The Truth and value [The] Life you will find The Way. In Objectivism if you seek non-contradictory beliefs (The Truth) and you hold Life as the ultimate value you will hold reason as The Way. Libertarians are the political wing of true Christianity with the non-aggression principle - if you live by the sword you shall die by the sword; if you lead into captivity, you will be lead into captivity. (I guess not too many cops will be making it to heaven.). Who knows, Ayn Rand could be the reincarnation of Elijah. Objectivism is an impenetrable foundation (or rock) to build one's temple. Something of my own: >Individualist religious morals (which Orthodox Christianity is a nigh-perfect representation of) to be superior to (subjectivist) secular ones even IF god doesn't exist. >See deity belief is either simply an chemical artifact of our sapience OR Gods intrinsic interaction with the makeup of our minds and, get this; it is actually irrelevant which of these is true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500080834 133673435,133699537,2017-07-15 01:08:15,">>133698450 thanks for the laugh",,Anonymous,,,,,1500080895 133673435,133699547,2017-07-15 01:08:21,">>133673570 NatSocs first.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500080901 133673435,133699642,2017-07-15 01:09:38,take your retarded cuckoldry to reddit,,Anonymous,1500008025126.png,aNnWzwXZHvxAP7wOlWykTQ==,,,1500080978 133673435,133699758,2017-07-15 01:10:58,"How have ancaps taken over /lrg/? Libertarianism is literally in its name. Now the OP copypasta is full of ancap shit. Ancaps are definitely /ourguy/, but I feel like the recommended reading and whatnot should include more libertarian and classical liberal content.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500081058 133673435,133700011,2017-07-15 01:14:11,">>133673435 Fascism is the only way to defeat the enemies of the white man's liberty.",,Anomolous,,,US,,1500081251 133673435,133700042,2017-07-15 01:14:33,">>133699758 This is why I keep posting my LfCap>AnCap Minarchism>Anarchism argumentation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500081273 133673435,133700085,2017-07-15 01:15:08,">>133697837 >My political philosophy is low-functioning autism: the post",,Anonymous,atlas shrugged.jpg,Y7zlSBBaKDO6NiFLqcG47g==,US,,1500081308 133673435,133700159,2017-07-15 01:16:03,">>133700042 >memeideology>memeideology>memeideology>memeideology",,Anonymous,tumblr_nt9cv4GlPu1uaxri9o1_1280.jpg,zbE8gMRab7mivCwDXwioNQ==,,,1500081363 133673435,133700245,2017-07-15 01:17:01,"Questions for ancaps: 1. Why don't you just identify as civic nationalist if you believe in physical removal to protect Western traditional values? Is there any difference between civnat and ""physical removal"" other than the latter is just an unrealistic meme at this point? 2. Who conducts the free helicopter rides if there's no government?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500081421 133673435,133700427,2017-07-15 01:19:30,">>133700085 Yawn. Any arguments to the -why- of your statments? Is this that leftist engineered talking point that >B-but Ayn Rand is only for teenagers! ?",,Anonymous,1484502193128.jpg,rm5rxPPzcw75zYnd3cSHTA==,US,,1500081570 133673435,133700714,2017-07-15 01:22:51,">>133699642 t. Brainlet",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500081771 133673435,133700810,2017-07-15 01:24:05,">>133700714 t. Autist",,Anonymous,oy0zfu4.jpg,+p3Zxbm6cRwAzK8wI1L2bg==,,,1500081845 133673435,133701237,2017-07-15 01:30:00,">>133699642 Monopolies only occur when competition is not allowed to rise up to challenge them. In a free trade economy, competition with other private companies drives costs down, quality up, and innovation is encouraged. Under a monopoly, prices are encouraged to rise (as there is no one to keep you in check), quality drops (as the consumers have no alternative), and innovation stops (R&D costs money, and it's not like there's any need to). Because of this, new competitors are already in the advantageous position, all they need to do is innovate and keep their prices in check and they can topple their competitor. Without regulations and taxes to strangle out small business startups, new sources of competition can arise before a potential monopoly becomes too powerful. >>133699480 Well, I guess objectivism is worth another look then. I'm a bit eclectic when it come to religion, I'm something like a Christian-inspired stoic, so I have an affinity to that sort of approach to religion. I saw Leonard Peikoff's book on objectivism at my library, is that any good?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500082200 133673435,133701392,2017-07-15 01:32:01,We're does the yellow and black affiliation come from?,,Anonymous,,,,,1500082321 133673435,133701463,2017-07-15 01:32:56,">>133699547 Redditor detected",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500082376 133673435,133701554,2017-07-15 01:34:15,">>133701392 Little known fact: Libertarians are huge fans of Wiz Khalifa",,Anonymous,0aec0d755e33eb92c56020af342807b7.jpg,NlSWXiyyYmNQ5YsxY0U1sw==,,,1500082455 133673435,133702004,2017-07-15 01:40:45,">>133697595 it doesnt protect privacy, and it doesnt protect free speech. net neutrality intends to do something like protecting free speech, but the FCC's record on censorship denotes that it cannot effectively provide this protection.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500082845 133673435,133702077,2017-07-15 01:41:49,">>133701554 >Khalifa >means caliphate",,Anonymous,,,,,1500082909 133673435,133702126,2017-07-15 01:42:21,">>133701237 Very, I'm sure you've read Atlas but give this a try as a refresher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5nhYo5nx4 Her work is actually really good as audiobook during menial tasks. Especially narrated by Christopher Hurt. Then read ""The Virtue of Selfishness"" and Capitalism: The Unkown Ideal"" I consider these two her unassaiable masterworks. THEN read Peikoff's formilization of ther system to round them off. After you can read her other books to augment your experience such as ""Philosophy: Who Needs it"" and ""The Romantic Manifesto"" Peikoff's ""The Ominous Parallels"" Is also really good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500082941 133673435,133702267,2017-07-15 01:44:32,"SOMEONE TELL ME WHO THE FUCK DOES THE HELICOPTER RIDES? REGARDLESS OF WHO DOES IT, IT'S STILL AN NAP VIOLATION? ARE WE NOW SAYING THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN WESTERN TRADITIONAL VALUES DON'T HAVE AN NAP? IF SO, THEN WHO DECIDES IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THOSE VALUES? THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR ALL CIVNATS BUT MORE SO FOR ANCAP CIVNATS.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500083072 133673435,133702418,2017-07-15 01:46:46,">>133701237 >implying small business can topple an international giant >implying they will ever have the money to do so Just look around, anon established brands e.g Apple,Nike, most of the people don't even care if something is better than it, they will buy it just because it's famous, so it must be good also, that's kind of (((materalistic))) ""Modern capitalism is just as subversive as Marxism. The materialistic view of life on which both systems are based is identical. As long as we only talk about economic classes, profit, salaries, and production, and as long as we believe that real human progress is determined by a particular system of distribution of wealth and goods, then we are not even close to what is essential.""",,Anonymous,meme-quote-erik-von-kuehnelt-leddihn-farmer-as-enemy-of-socialism.jpg,Z5uwjuq+SXrc+0td7Abkbw==,,,1500083206 133673435,133702483,2017-07-15 01:47:48,">>133702267 Quit taking the meme this seriously autism-mancer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500083268 133673435,133702771,2017-07-15 01:52:30,">>133702126 Thanks. I've always had an interest in the philosophy but I could never find something truly comprehensive of it. Usually whenever I investigate an idea, I just crack open a book and take notes. Unfortunately it's a bit harder to do that with the way that she incorporated her beliefs into fiction. They're all great reads, but it just doesn't fit my style of reading comprehension so I could never gleam to much from it unless she was really beating you over the head with her point (like in Anthem, for example).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500083550 133673435,133703997,2017-07-15 02:09:59,">A monopoly granted either to an individual or to a trading company has the same effect as a secret in trade or manufactures. The monopolists, by keeping the market constantly under-stocked, by never fully supplying the effectual demand, sell their commodities much above the natural price, and raise their emoluments, whether they consist in wages or profit, greatly above their natural rate. >The price of monopoly is upon every occasion the highest which can be got. The natural price, or the price of free competition, on the contrary, is the lowest which can be taken, not upon every occasion indeed, but for any considerable time altogether. The one is upon every occasion the highest which can be squeezed out of the buyers, or which, it is supposed, they will consent to give: The other is the lowest which the sellers can commonly afford to take, and at the same time continue their business. adam smith : wealth of nations >bu- bu- but monopolies are an acceptable component in capitallism. being this bluepilled",,Anonymous,,,,,1500084599 133673435,133704179,2017-07-15 02:12:55,">>133702418 If by ""modern capitalism"" you mean regulated socialism then I agree. But you are just opposed to the current socialism and want to replace it with your version that you think is somehow ""better"". It's all the same bullshit. Whether it's international socialism or national socialism it will always be the enemy of liberty and freedom. Our materialistic culture will collapse once the current world order collapses, only at that point will the revolution I seek and the revolution you seek even be remotely possible. Despite our talk of markets and wealth, a libertarian society is based on a homogeneous ethnic population with a culture celebrating family values. Even if all regulations disappeared tomorrow, the culture is beyond repair in the current system, thanks to the Marxist subversion of our culture.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500084775 133673435,133704435,2017-07-15 02:16:52,">>133702771 Ayn Rand is necessarily ciritical of Theism as her intended prose demanded it so prepare yourself. She did not find it necessary to differentiate between different denominations and not without rhetorically valid reason. I however decided to go further and I found that I admire Orthodox Christianity and utterly despise Catholicism. I mean I am an atbeist, but I actually go to Chirch and even Bible study on Wednesdays and I am openly atheist. Though I tell my fellows that ""ther is a big asterisk attached"". They eat up my descrpitions of this ""Atheism Minus"" idea I am cooking up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500085012 133673435,133704547,2017-07-15 02:18:32,">>133699642 >The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it Adam Smith - Wealth of nations >lobbying is an acceptable practice in capitalism being this bluepilled",,Anonymous,,,,,1500085112 133673435,133705081,2017-07-15 02:26:50,">>133704547 >To widen the market and to narrow the competition, is always the interest of the dealers. To widen the market may frequently be agreeable enough to the interest of the public; but to narrow the competition must always be against it, and can serve only to enable the dealers, by raising their profits above what they naturally would be, to levy, for their own benefit, an absurd tax upon the rest of their fellow-citizens. The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500085610 133673435,133705268,2017-07-15 02:29:38,">>133704435 I'm pretty big into Jungian psychology, and the themes that Christian theology taps into are universal to the human experience. I can definitely understand how an atheist can find something compelling about it. In fact, Christianity's development of the individual is one of the best of any belief systems so far. I'm surprised that more extreme individualists don't look into it for that purpose. But then again, that development of the individual places the highest possible good as being the sacrifice of oneself for humanity as a whole, which I suppose could contradict some aspects of the Objectivist moral system. In any case, I wish you luck with that ""Atheism minus"" idea, I hope something comes out of it for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500085778 133673435,133705295,2017-07-15 02:30:03,">>133704179 But you are just opposed to the current socialism and want to replace it with your version that you think is somehow ""better"" It's not socialism to want people to have their own land and take their responsibility, it's called distributism. If anything that promotes tradition, it promotes, self-sufficiency, not being reliable on the state, Unlike socialism where everyone that triggers the state will lose their job, or capitalism where everyone is greedily in pursuit for material vanity. The key issue with libertarianism is that there is no legitimate hierarchy, therefore everyone forget their obligations, trying to climb higher on the scale, by any means possible, even if that means killing your fellow brothers or subverting thousands with your degenerate products. >Our materialistic culture will collapse once the current world order collapses, only at that point will the revolution I seek and the revolution you seek even be remotely possible. Indeed true, destroy the degenerate west, and the heroic will build it anew",,Anonymous,meme-quote-alexis-de-toquerville-aristocratic-societies.jpg,muKQjR6ki2MnH8G3dEMCyA==,,,1500085803 133673435,133705822,2017-07-15 02:38:07,How many agree with this image?,,Anonymous,Libertarianleade2.jpg,h1BIB7kChxrltDQq8Eo6Mg==,US,,1500086287 133673435,133705886,2017-07-15 02:39:05,Bump,,Anonymous,C79F5EC62C0C41DEBEB489ED3A74D8DB36200000029C0D8445D.jpg,F6tnnuzp63pS8zmTdZ0gBg==,US,,1500086345 133673435,133706722,2017-07-15 02:52:05,">>133705295 >>133704179 the one thing that you two are missing is that libertarianism has the idea of the social contract, that people who enter into a society have an agreement on socially acceptable behavior. We are past that point. for 60-70 years people have been coming to the US in spite of their willingness to adhere to that social agreement. They are unwilling to become American, and adhere to that code. Even libertarians will say someone in violation of some kinds of moral standards should be dealt with legally... Easy example, murder. If you kill someone you go to jail libertarians / liberals will all agree. We have some problem here, we woke up one day and the people enforcing the laws are free to break them. We woke up in a corporatist nightmare, it is widespread, its everywhere. In this predicament, simply jailing a few people isnt going to help. In this case, there is a good argument to autocratic / authoritarian intervention.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500087125 133673435,133706935,2017-07-15 02:55:40,">>133705295 So how will you determine who gets what? How will you ensure that everyone is producing what they are supposed to be producing? How will you anticipate and adjust for price shocks? Same problem with every command economic structure, the economy is simply too big now to be overseen by a single body. It needs to be decentralized, if everyone watches their own hides and every business watches over their own customers, the economy can be handled efficiently and with minimal effort on the part of the government. >The key issue with libertarianism is that there is no legitimate hierarchy, therefore everyone forget their obligations, trying to climb higher on the scale, by any means possible, even if that means killing your fellow brothers or subverting thousands with your degenerate products. The goal of a meritocratic hierarchy is to be climbed. Unless you're anti-meritocracy (which if you are allow me to disregard your opinion), you want the best people in the best place for their specific skills. Often, the best person for a second class job was born in the first class or the best person for a first class job born in the third. If you allow those individuals to climb up to the position that best suits them you can increase production exponentially compared to other models. No blood will be spilt in climbing the hierarchy if you do it right, and the free market capitalist model works perfectly fine. I'm fine with one person out of every hundred climbs the hierarchy by selling useless goods instead of products that benefit the whole of the people, it's still the best meritocratic system we've yet to develop as a species.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500087340 133673435,133707033,2017-07-15 02:57:21,">>133705822 I love this fucking picture. Makes me smile",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500087441 133673435,133707062,2017-07-15 02:57:49,">>133704547 >>133705081 >he thinks fixing of ecomomy while the west declines to the point where fucking dogs is acceptable If you think culture and tradition shall bend to economic prosperity you are a hedonist who fell for the material jew.",,Anonymous,C-tvmVsUAAEPS-P.jpg,0CPQDqYOnR8TxNP7D6cTTQ==,,,1500087469 133673435,133707230,2017-07-15 03:00:40,">>133705268 Thanks. It is actually one of 10 books I wish to write. I have their concepts and titles worked out and everything. 2 of their preambles are done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500087640 133673435,133707485,2017-07-15 03:05:06,">>133707062 you were the one posting the pic crying about lobbyists and monopolies. your picture is uninformed and fucking stupid. Its pretty clear that culture and tradition are being destroyed right along with economic prosperity. Its not about picking one over the other. The come together.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500087906 133673435,133707918,2017-07-15 03:12:37,">>133707485 >Its not about picking one over the other. The come together. This. Hard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500088357 133673435,133708522,2017-07-15 03:23:04,">>133706935 >So how will you determine who gets what? According to distributistsm, property ownership is a fundamental right, and the means of production should be spread as widely as possible, rather than being centralized under the control of the state, as for who gets what is a matter of the man's virtues, service of his people and his sacrifice for the traditionalist ideals >How will you ensure that everyone is producing what they are supposed to be producing? You don't need to ensure, it is a fact that everyone's priority will be production of resources which one can live without. >The goal of a meritocratic hierarchy is to be climbed. The fact is that all people will want to get as high as they can, therefore the ones that are not fit for high positions will have their effort not only in vain but, also not benefical. e.g: a farmer moves to the city for his ambition of becoming a trader, it is a fact that he knows less than, let's say than a trader that was already taught his trade by his father. If the farmer succeeds, the economy will lose a worker from the bottom hierarchy, which has to be the most numerous, while if he fails he will probably not make profit, therefore making the years as a trader useless, while the farming would have been of some benefit.",,Anonymous,DAodIphXgAAjJrb.jpg,dfHnu8oK+4a+BQyFpwdXYA==,,,1500088984 133673435,133708700,2017-07-15 03:25:48,">>133708522 cont >Under such a system, most people would be able to earn a living without having to rely on the use of the property of others to do so. Examples of people earning a living in this way would be farmers who own their own land and related machinery, plumbers who own their own tools, software developers who own their own computer, etc. The ""cooperative"" approach advances beyond this perspective to recognise that such property and equipment may be ""co-owned"" by local communities larger than a family, e.g., partners in a business. >In Rerum novarum, Leo XIII states that people are likely to work harder and with greater commitment if they themselves possess the land on which they labour, which in turn will benefit them and their families as workers will be able to provide for themselves and their household. He puts forward the idea that when men have the opportunity to possess property and work on it, they will “learn to love the very soil which yields in response to the labor of their hands, not only food to eat, but an abundance of the good things for themselves and those that are dear to them.” He states also that owning property is not only beneficial for a person and their family, but is in fact a right, due to God having “...given the earth for the use and enjoyment of the whole human race”.",,Anonymous,meme-quote-dominique-venner-like-plants-men-cannot-exist-without-roots.jpg,y4d2kx8EjzWS2sE2x3a48w==,,,1500089148 133673435,133708795,2017-07-15 03:27:26,">>133708700 >Similar views are presented by G. K. Chesterton in his 1910 book What’s Wrong with the World. Chesterton believes that whilst God has limitless capabilities, man has limited abilities in terms of creation. As such, man therefore is entitled to own property and to treat it as he sees fit. He states “Property is merely the art of the democracy. It means that every man should have something that he can shape in his own image, as he is shaped in the image of heaven. But because he is not God, but only a graven image of God, his self-expression must deal with limits; properly with limits that are strict and even small.”Chesterton summed up his distributist views in the phrase ""Three acres and a cow"". Guild system The kind of economic order envisaged by the early distributist thinkers would involve the return to some sort of guild system. The present existence of labor unions does not constitute a realization of this facet of distributist economic order, as labour unions are organized along class lines to promote class interests and frequently class struggle, whereas guilds are mixed class syndicates composed of both employers and employees cooperating for mutual benefit, thereby promoting class collaboration. Banks Distributism favors the dissolution of the current private bank system, or more specifically its profit-making basis in charging interest. Dorothy Day, for example, suggested abolishing legal enforcement of interest-rate contracts (usury). It would not entail nationalization but could involve government involvement of some sort. Distributists look favorably on credit unions as a preferable alternative to banks.",,Anonymous,meme-quote-alexis-de-toquerville-power-legitimacy-corruption.jpg,VkCxIqcIQNcbVjpgpc8gnw==,,,1500089246 133673435,133708911,2017-07-15 03:29:32,">>133708795 Social theory Human family >Distributism sees the family of two parents and their child or children as the central and primary social unit of human ordering and the principal unit of a functioning distributist society and civilization. This unit is also the basis of a multi-generational extended family, which is embedded in socially as well as genetically inter-related communities, nations, etc., and ultimately in the whole human family past, present and future. The economic system of a society should therefore be focused primarily on the flourishing of the family unit, but not in isolation: at the appropriate level of family context, as is intended in the principle of subsidiarity. Distributism reflects this doctrine most evidently by promoting the family, rather than the individual, as the basic type of owner; that is, distributism seeks to ensure that most families, rather than most individuals, will be owners of productive property. The family is, then, vitally important to the very core of distributist thought.",,Anonymous,meme-quote-the-family-is-the-principal-force-of-cultural-reproduction.jpg,QvHEfXgKna+Tb9hFQtY2hw==,,,1500089372 133673435,133708972,2017-07-15 03:30:40,">>133708911 >Distributism puts great emphasis on the principle of subsidiarity. This principle holds that no larger unit (whether social, economic, or political) should perform a function which can be performed by a smaller unit. Pope Pius XI, in Quadragesimo anno, provided the classical statement of the principle: ""Just as it is gravely wrong to take from individuals what they can accomplish by their own initiative and industry and give it to the community, so also it is an injustice and at the same time a grave evil and disturbance of right order to assign to a greater and higher association what lesser and subordinate organizations can do.""[42] Thus, any activity of production (which distributism holds to be the most important part of any economy) ought to be performed by the smallest possible unit. This helps support distributism's argument that smaller units, families if possible, ought to be in control of the means of production, rather than the large units typical of modern economies. >Pope Pius XI further stated, again in Quadragesimo anno, ""every social activity ought of its very nature to furnish help to the members of the body social, and never destroy and absorb them."" To prevent large private organizations from thus dominating the body politic, distributism applies this principle of subsidiarity to economic as well as to social and political action. >The essence of subsidiarity is concisely inherent in the Christian maxim 'Give someone a fish and you feed him for a day; teach the person to fish and you feed him for a lifetime'.",,Anonymous,meme-quote-alexandr-solzhenitzyn-freedom-and-equality.jpg,zh4yuzNszRY2oT9jEkjJbQ==,,,1500089440 133673435,133709058,2017-07-15 03:32:09,">>133708972 Social security >Distributism favors the elimination of social security on the basis that it further alienates man by making him more dependent on the Servile State. Distributists such as Dorothy Day did not favor social security when it was introduced by the United States government. This rejection of this new program was due to the direct influence of the ideas of Hilaire Belloc over American Distributists. Society of artisans >Distributism promotes a society of artisans and culture. This is influenced by an emphasis on small business, promotion of local culture, and favoring of small production over capitalistic mass production. A society of artisans promotes the distributist ideal of the unification of capital, ownership, and production rather than what distributism sees as an alienation of man from work. >This does not, however, suggest that distributism necessarily favors a technological regression to a pre-Industrial Revolution lifestyle, but a more local ownership of factories and other industrial centers. Products such as food and clothing would be preferably returned to local producers and artisans instead of being mass-produced overseas.",,Anonymous,meme-quote-progress-is-the-name-moderns-give-to-the-destruction-of-what-our-ancestors-nurtured.jpg,pFjVlxtK8L7/vEU+8q5vNw==,,,1500089529 133673435,133709142,2017-07-15 03:33:42,what do ancaps do about natural monopolies?,,Anonymous,natural monopoly.png,zKmi8yGRrNVfQ3JEGHm9Ww==,US,,1500089622 133673435,133709161,2017-07-15 03:34:00,">>133709058 >Distributism is the name given to a socio-economic and political creed originally associated with G. K. Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc. Chesterton bowed to Belloc’s preeminence as a disseminator of the ideas of distributism, declaring Belloc the master in relation to whom he was merely a disciple. “You were the founder and father of this mission,”Chesterton wrote in 1923. “We were the converts but you were the missionary…. You first revealed the truth both to its greater and its lesser servants…. Great will be your glory if England breathes again.” In fact, pace Chesterton, Belloc was merely the propagator and the populariser of the Church’s social doctrine of subsidiarity as expounded by Pope Leo XIII in Rerum novarum (1891), a doctrine that would be re-stated, re-confirmed and reinforced by Pope Pius XI in Quadragesimo anno (1931) and by Pope John Paul II in Centesimus annus (1991). As such, it is important, first and foremost to see distributism as a derivative of the principle of subsidiarity.",,Anonymous,DAakVmQUAAAnjd-.jpg,zUSfiUBoJSt4ou3pWJiCtw==,,,1500089640 133673435,133709205,2017-07-15 03:34:47,">>133709161 Since there are many who will be unaware of terms such as “subsidiarity” or “distributism,” it might be helpful to provide a brief overview of the central tenets of each. In the Catechism of the Catholic Church subsidiarity is discussed in the context of the dangers inherent in too much power being centralized in the hands of the state: “Excessive intervention by the state can threaten personal freedom and initiative. The teaching of the Church has elaborated the principle of subsidiarity, according to which a community of a higher order should not interfere in the internal life of a community of a lower order, depriving the latter of its functions, but rather should support it in case of need and help to co-ordinate its activity with the activities of the rest of society, always with a view to the common good.” Put simply, the principle of subsidiarity rests on the assumption that the rights of small communities—e.g., families or neighborhoods—should not be violated by the intervention of larger communities—e.g., the state or centralized bureaucracies. Thus, for instance, in practical terms, the rights of parents to educate their children without the imposition by the state of “politically correct” school curricula would be enshrined by the principle of subsidiarity. Parental influence in schools is subsidiarist; state influence is anti-subsidiarist.",,Anonymous,C_JhKxBVYAAL00U.jpg,Gbi+DD4LTPt9Z9hV9ZLgEg==,,,1500089687 133673435,133709304,2017-07-15 03:36:31,">>133684667 Classical liberalism is literally left wing. So is NatSoc, its in the fucking name The only two undeniably right wing ideologies are fascism and monarchism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500089791 133673435,133709312,2017-07-15 03:36:37,">>133709205 >Unlike the socialists, the distributists were not advocating the redistribution of “wealth” per se, though they believed that this would be one of the results of distributism. Instead, and the difference is crucial, they were advocating the redistribution of the means of production to as many people as possible. Belloc and the distributists drew the vital connection between the freedom of labor and its relationship with the other factors of production—i.e., land, capital, and the entrepreneurial spirit. The more that labor is divorced from the other factors of production the more it is enslaved to the will of powers beyond its control. In an ideal world every man would own the land on which, and the tools with which, he worked. In an ideal world he would control his own destiny by having control over the means to his livelihood. For Belloc, this was the most important economic freedom, the freedom beside which all other economic freedoms are relatively trivial. If a man has this freedom he will not so easily succumb to encroachments upon his other freedoms.",,Anonymous,tumblr_ns872ySBT31uaxri9o1_1280.jpg,cwr+fLOZ2AQ1gjDTn6jUtA==,,,1500089797 133673435,133709358,2017-07-15 03:37:29,">>133709312 >Belloc was, however, a realist. Indeed, if he erred at all it was on the side of pessimism. He would have agreed with T.S. Eliot’s axiomatic maxim in “The Hollow Men” that “between the potency and the existence falls the shadow.” We do not live in an ideal world and the ideal, in the absolute sense, is unattainable. Yet, as a Christian, Belloc believed that we are called to strive for perfection. We are called to imitate Christ, even if we cannot be perfect as Christ is perfect. And what is true of man in his relationship with God is true of man in his relationship with his neighbor, i.e. we are called to strive towards a better and more just society, even if it will never be perfect. Therefore, in practical terms, every policy or every practice that leads to a reuniting of man with the land and capital on which he depends for his sustenance is a step in the right direction. Every policy or practice that puts him more at the mercy of those who control the land and the capital on which he depends, and therefore who control his labor also, is a step in the wrong direction. Practical politics is about moving in the right direction, however slowly.",,Anonymous,DB2uj-JUQAEMR8v.jpg,IqexJagw15Z2+0ig55rgjA==,,,1500089849 133673435,133709412,2017-07-15 03:38:32,">>133709358 >In practical terms, the following would all be distributist solutions to current problems: policies that establish a favorable climate for the establishment and subsequent thriving of small businesses; policies that discourage mergers, takeovers and monopolies; policies that allow for the break-up of monopolies or larger companies into smaller businesses; policies that encourage producers’ cooperatives; policies that privatize nationalized industries; policies that bring real political power closer to the family by decentralizing power from central government to local government, from big government to small government. All these are practical examples of applied distributism.",,Anonymous,C-uGcSiV0AA1wzp.jpg,xfSJF2Kn9B3G+R/Oz7ydsA==,,,1500089912 133673435,133709456,2017-07-15 03:39:24,">As the foregoing practical examples would suggest, distributism/subsidiarity is not an esoteric ideal without any practical applicability in everyday political and economic life. On the contrary, it is at the heart of politics and economics. In all politics and economics there is the tendency for power to become centralized into the hands of fewer and fewer people. Subsidiarity can be seen as the antidote to this centralization, i.e. it is the principle at the heart of the forces of decentralization, the principle that demands the rights and protection of smaller political and economic units against the encroachments of central government and big business. Other practical examples can be given.",,Anonymous,meme-quote-g-k-chesterton-the-christian-ideal-has-been-found-difficult-and-left-untried.jpg,bJnzlt91WlDhxNxmu9MI9g==,,,1500089964 133673435,133709478,2017-07-15 03:39:45,">>133708522 >>133708700 >>133708795 >>133708911 >>133708972 >>133709058 >>133709161 >>133709205 >>133709312 >>133709358 Thanks for bumping the thread. Have a (You)",,Anonymous,,,,,1500089985 133673435,133709519,2017-07-15 03:40:30,">>133709456 >The constitution of the European Union is fundamentally centralist in its very nature, so much so that all reference to “subsidiarity” in EU documents amounts to a scandalous employment of Orwellian doublethink. As such, what has become known as “Euro-scepticism,” the view that the European Union is a gross monolith that needs to be dismantled, is fundamentally subsidiarist. Similarly the rights of rural cultures to enjoy their traditional ways of life are essentially subsidiarist, whereas urban-driven legislation banning traditional rural pursuits is a violation of subsidiarity. In the United States the right to gun ownership and in the United Kingdom the right to hunt foxes would fit into this category. (It is not a question of ‘gun control’ or ‘animal rights’ but of the right of rural cultures to choose their way of life without the imposition of unwanted urban value-judgments.) The continual erosion of states’ rights within the United States and the consequent increase in the power of the Federal Government and the Supreme Court is a violation of subsidiarity. Many more examples could be given but these should suffice for our present purposes. In short, and in sum, distributism as a variation of the principle of subsidiarity offers the only real alternative to the macrophilia and macromania of the modern world.",,Anonymous,meme-quote-bad-democracy-vs-bad-monarchy.jpg,O1oUMS7XWUw59qXXrXUgjg==,,,1500090030 133673435,133709608,2017-07-15 03:42:20,">>133709519 >G.K. Chesterton’s early 20th century “distributism” is a movement typically considered a spent force, which is always a good reason to pay attention to something, for finding a vision for the future often requires swiveling back to the past. It holds out just the sort of powerful vision that could very well capture the hearts and minds of business leaders. >Chesterton’s “distributist” project tried to chart a middle course (but not “Third Way”!) between laissez faire capitalism on the one side and state socialism on the other. The problem with the former, as Chesterton wrote in The Outline of Sanity 10 years after the Russian Revolution, was that “The practical tendency of all trade and business today is towards big commercial combinations, often more imperial, more impersonal, more international than many a communist commonwealth.” While of the alternative, Chesterton said, “the point about Communism is that it only reforms the pickpocket by forbidding pockets.”",,Anonymous,CbxuvtHWEAUNkgn.jpg,qBTeXxl3nH/RbG14CYKEPA==,,,1500090140 133673435,133709640,2017-07-15 03:43:11,">>133709608 >Instead, Chesterton picked up and ran with what we might call the Lockean strain in Pope Leo XIII’s famous encyclical Rerum Novarum, the emphasis on the natural integrity of private property. For Chesterton, ownership is a self-evident good, which therefore shouldn’t be abolished but widely distributed. Similarly, profit is a good thing, in fact too good a thing not to be shared. Accordingly, what Chesterton took issue with in the then-current defense of capitalism was that it was a “defense of keeping most men in wage dependence; that is, keeping most men without capital.” This conviction compelled Chesterton to lambast big business (which backfired when big chain of news stands refused to sell G.K.’s weekly); to monitor and oppose mergers; to advocate independent proprietorship; and to pronounce on every possible occasion that “small is beautiful”.",,Anonymous,liberalchurch.jpg,hDF38Fml5b0v3hadlpnKqg==,,,1500090191 133673435,133709731,2017-07-15 03:45:04,">>133709640 >Most of our modern ideas suffer from being no more than breakfast cereal. Most of the energy and attraction in them is in the packaging. Inside there is very little substance. A lot of it is fried air with sugar-coating. There may be a few grains of truth, but not enough, not the whole truth. Yet the world feeds on these light and snappy ideas and on nothing else. The rest of the complete breakfast is completely missing. Even those ideas which are profound and practical for our world still suffer from incompleteness. We can have the right ideas about politics and economics, but life is more than politics and economics. The affliction of specialization is myopia. As specialists we are under the delusion that our small area of expertise informs us about everything else. We know more and more about less and less. Truth has been carefully compartmentalized. Colleges and universities have been carefully departmentalized. We are all specialists, and none of us are generalists, and there is no glue to hold all our fragmented truths together. There is thinking, but no thought, as in a complete understanding that is comprehensive and coherent.",,Anonymous,C-Udz8zXUAACvlA.jpg,wO4v2dpe4s4T9s9jJDt38w==,,,1500090304 133673435,133709775,2017-07-15 03:46:01,">>133709731 >G.K. Chesterton had a word for all the specialists of the modern world. It is a surprising word. A jarring word. The word is “heretics.” The problem is not that the specialist—or heretic—is wrong, but rather narrow and incomplete. The heretic is someone who has broken himself off from a wider view of the world. The heretic, says Chesterton, has locked himself in “the clean, well-lit prison of one idea.”1 Another way Chesterton puts it is that the heretic has one idea and has let it go to his head.2 It is a case where myopia leads to madness. Chesterton was one of the last of the great generalists. He wrote about everything. Everything: history, current events, art, literature, politics, economics, social theory, science, philosophy, and religion. But his dozens and dozens of books and his thousands of essays were not simply random observations and disconnected thinking. His writing was all part of one very consistent and coherent and complete system of thought. We could argue that Chesterton really wrote only one book, but it was in many chapters, many volumes. In one of those essays, he says, “There is only one subject.”3 Elsewhere, he writes,",,Anonymous,meme-quote-le-kwan-yew-race-politics-democracy.jpg,Kwa3bZNKVmRAuD55HyK7bA==,,,1500090361 133673435,133709828,2017-07-15 03:47:15,">>133709775 To try to sum up Chesterton’s “complete and conscious philosophy” is a good exercise. Like any good exercise, however, it is not easy. Chesterton saw the world as a wonder, a miracle that does not explain itself. He saw life as a gift, the best kind of gift—a surprise, and something undeserved. Thus, gratitude and joy informed his perspective of everything. He believed in the dignity and liberty of the human person, made in God’s image, but sullied by sin. He believed that we generally want happiness but often pursue pleasure in the mistaken sense that it is the same thing as happiness. He saw morality and civil order as safeguards against sin and utter selfishness. He saw the home and the family as the centerpiece of society because they are the centerpiece of living. Home and family are the normal things. Trade and politics are necessary but minor things that have been emphasized out of all proportion. He saw that proper proportion was the key to art as well as the key to justice. And sanity. As a young man, Chesterton flirted with socialism, but he soon realized that it was mostly a reactionary idea. The rise of socialism and its attendant evils was a reaction against industrial capitalism and its attendant evils. The danger of fighting injustice is that if the battle is misguided, even a victory is a defeat. Good motives can have bad results. This is the point Chesterton makes when he talks about how the “virtues wander wildly”5 when they are isolated from each other and wandering alone. In a broken society where we have this seemingly endless battle between the left and right, the virtues on either side are doing war with each other: truth that is pitiless and pity that is untruthful.",,Anonymous,tumblr_of81vl5vbJ1uaxri9o1_1280.jpg,79QrIlGNueHbm/7FELFXlQ==,,,1500090435 133673435,133709868,2017-07-15 03:47:53,">>133709828 The conservatives and the liberals have successfully reduced meaningful debate to name-calling. We use catchwords as a substitute for thinking. We know things only by their labels, and we have “not only no comprehension but no curiosity touching their substance or what they are made of.”6 It is interesting, it is fitting, that the philosophy which Chesterton embraced as the only real alternative to socialism and capitalism (as well as to liberalism and conservatism) goes by a name that is utterly awkward and misunderstood. As a label it is so useless it cannot even be used as a form of abuse. Its uselessness as a label demands that it be discussed. To say the name immediately requires explanation, and the explanation immediately provokes debate. The troublesome title is “Distributism.” It has to do with property. It has to do with justice. And it has to do with everything else. The word “property” has to do with what is proper. It also has to do with what is proportional. Balance has to do with harmony. Harmony has to do with beauty. The modern world is out of balance. And it is ugly. We have only glimpses of beauty, glimpses of things as they should be. These glimpses are our inspiration.",,Anonymous,master of yourself.jpg,hgosIBplt1DwH0LWYGZlsw==,,,1500090473 133673435,133709891,2017-07-15 03:48:25,">>133709868 The word “economy” and the word “economics” are based on the Greek word for house, which is oikos. The word “economy” as we know it, however, has drifted completely away from that meaning. Instead of house, it has come to mean everything outside of the house. The home is the place where the important things happen. The economy is the place where the most unimportant things happen. The backwardness of the situation is something constantly pointed out by Chesterton: “There is nothing queerer today than the importance of unimportant things. Except, of course, the unimportance of important things.”7 There is another rather neglected meaning to the word “economy”: the idea of thriftiness. The best and last word of mysticism is an almost agonising sense of the preciousness of everything, the preciousness of the whole universe, which is like an exquisite and fragile vase, and among other things the preciousness of other people’s tea-cups. The last and best word of mysticism is not lavishness, but rather a sublime and sacred economy.",,Anonymous,meme-quote-e-h-looney-society-and-community.jpg,ybDEIGX1XI22Ib/b0k0wdw==,,,1500090505 133673435,133709939,2017-07-15 03:49:18,">>133709891 >Chesterton points out that inside the word thrift is the word thrive.9 We can only thrive within our means, just as we can only be free within the rules. The modern understanding of the word economy is, once again, just the opposite. It is about accumulation instead of thrift. Even worse, it is about mere exchange. It is about trade, and not even about the things that are traded. It is about figures in a ledger. It is about noughts. It is about the accumulation of zeros. It is more about nothing than it is about something. Our separation of economy from the home is part of a long fragmentation process. Each of the modern ideas that might have once been part of this complete breakfast have come to claim that they are complete all by themselves. We have separated everything from everything else. We have accomplished this by separating everything from the home. Feminism has separated women from the home. Capitalism has separated men from the home. Socialism has separated education from the home. Manufacturing has separated craftsmanship from the home. The news and entertainment industry has separated originality and creativity from the home, rendering us into passive and malleable consumers rather than active citizens.",,Anonymous,tumblr_o7er8aMFaw1uaxri9o1_1280.jpg,KJdTwAKQkWCdrW9c+unelA==,,,1500090558 133673435,133709955,2017-07-15 03:49:36,">>133700714 >>133700810 top tier argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500090576 133673435,133709970,2017-07-15 03:49:54,">>133709939 There is more to Distributism than economics. That is because there is more to economics than economics. Distributism is not just an economic idea. It is an integral part of a complete way of thinking. But in a fragmented world we not only resist a complete way of thinking, we do not even recognize it. It is too big to be seen. In the age of specialization we tend to grasp only small and narrow ideas. We don’t even want to discuss a true Theory of Everything, unless it is invented by a specialist and addresses only that specialist’s “everything.” In reality, everything is too complicated a category because it contains, well, everything. But the glory of a great philosophy or a great religion is not that it is simple but that it is complicated. It should be complicated because the world is complicated. Its problems are complicated. The solution to those problems must also be complicated. It takes a complicated key to fit a complicated lock. But we want simple solutions. We don’t want to work hard. We don’t want to think hard. We want other people to do both our work and our thinking for us. We call in the specialists. And we call this state of utter dependency “freedom.” We think we are free simply because we seem free to move about.",,Anonymous,tumblr_o1565noeZ31uaxri9o1_1280.jpg,rM8SfazBvXvbkPudlcxG8A==,,,1500090594 133673435,133709993,2017-07-15 03:50:29,">>133709970 Chesterton’s opening line in his book about his visit to America was this: “I have never managed to lose my conviction that travel narrows the mind.”10 As with all his paradoxes he points to a truth that is the opposite of what we expect. The man in his field, the man in his garden, thinks about everything. The man who is traveling thinks about only a few things. He is distracted not just with details but with destinations. He thinks the thing he has come to see is the only important thing and this makes him narrow. The real purpose of traveling is to return. The true destination of every journey is home. That is the main idea behind Distributism. The distributist ideal is that the home is the most important place in the world. Every man should have his own piece of property, a place to build his own home, to raise his family, to do all the important things from birth to death: eating, singing, celebrating, reading, writing, arguing, story-telling, laughing, crying, praying. The home is above all a sanctuary of creativity. Creativity is our most Godlike quality. We not only make things, we make things in our own image. The family is one of those things. But so is the picture on the wall and the rug on the floor. The home is the place of complete freedom, where we may have a picnic on the roof and even drink directly from the milk carton.",,Anonymous,monarchy debunked.jpg,HS+f25J033r2og3RfFUPwQ==,,,1500090629 133673435,133710031,2017-07-15 03:51:15,">>133709993 Chesterton could be very specific at times, but in general, he was a generalist. His critics always rush in with objections to his generalizations forgetting that they are generalizations, and generalizations by their nature allow for exceptions. The problem in the modern world is that the exceptions get all the attention. The generalizations get none. The exceptions have become the rule. It is now an exception for a woman to raise her own children. But Chesterton’s distributist ideal not only called for mothers to stay at home, it called for fathers to stay at home as well. The home-based business, the idea of self-sufficiency would not only make for stronger, healthier families, but a stronger, healthier society. If everything in a society is based on nurturing and strengthening and protecting the family, that society will survive centuries of storms. A home-based society is naturally and necessarily a local and de-centralized society. If the government is local, if the economy is local, then the culture is also local. What we call culture right now is neither local nor is it culture. It is an amorphous society based on the freeway off-ramp and tall glowing signs that all say the same thing. Convenience is our culture. We all convene at the convenience store, where we get our gas and our munchies and our magazine and we are careful not to look anyone in the eye, not even the Pakistani clerk who waves our credit card across the laser beam. This is a revealing snapshot of our fragmented society: passive, restless, shutter-eyed, lonely, not at home.",,Anonymous,CRVWlGXVAAAYhfi.jpg,kBnooerh9I6THCOoJ+9rjg==,,,1500090675 133673435,133710056,2017-07-15 03:51:45,">>133710031 It would take “a clear and conscious philosophy” to build a distributist society, not a philosophy of broken and leftover ideas. The first clear and conscious idea would be to recognize that money is not the most important thing. It is the means and not the end. The end is a quiet, happy home. It is many small places with many local heroes. So. How does this all happen? That is the grand question when it comes to Distributism. Chesterton argues that the main thing about Distributism is that it is voluntary. If we are not creatures of free will, if everything is predetermined by God or by Fate or by Biology or by Birth Order or by the Big Bang, well, then I suppose it is not worth wasting energy talking about how we can bring about a distributist society. Let’s just kick back and pop open a beer.",,Anonymous,morality.jpg,VwrigN4qs7hgFSrRhX7u0g==,,,1500090705 133673435,133710066,2017-07-15 03:51:51,"Chesterton understood God a lot better than he understood economics the real world has kikes and brown people, no 'system' can fix the presence of those groups only as slaves can they have any dignity, and the world any freedom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500090711 133673435,133710071,2017-07-15 03:51:54,">>133675625 >need a new Washington for 1770s 2.0",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1500090714 133673435,133710108,2017-07-15 03:52:24,">>133710056 Though Chesterton would argue that a distributist society would be most fully realized if it were based on a Catholic worldview, he would not insist upon that basis as essential for achieving such a society. In fact, he would argue that such a society is more congenial to the different religions than any other societal plan. Freedom of religion, as it now supposedly exists under a huge centralized government, actually needs to be “enforced” by that government. The result, as we have seen, is that religion has actually been stifled where the government watchdog is there to “guarantee” the freedom. But local-based governments (supported by local-based economies) are more conducive to religious freedom because people of the same religion would naturally gravitate together. The main reason that people of the same religion tend to scatter in our society and that people of different religions tend to mix uncomfortably is that our society is not based on the home. It is based on the opportunities outside the home. The better jobs are always elsewhere. It is not their religion that makes people chose a place to live; it is their job. It is convenience. It is not philosophy.",,Anonymous,tumblr_ohymrnORpU1uaxri9o1_1280.jpg,UOU4hqcWXKpquvoHH5yT4g==,,,1500090744 133673435,133710140,2017-07-15 03:52:53,">>133710108 The dilemma of Distributism is the dilemma of freedom itself. Distributism cannot be done to people, but only by people. It is not a system that can be imposed from above; it can only spring up from below. It can only come from what Chesterton calls “the non-mechanical part of man, the sacred quality in creation and choice.”12 If it happens, it seems most likely that it would be ushered in by a popular revolution. In any case, it must be popular. It would at some point require those with massive and inordinate wealth to give it up. In most popular revolutions, this has been achieved by means that are not always soft and cushy. In order to avoid a lot of blood and broken glass, religion can provide a very practical solution. It usually does. The Christian argument, if taken seriously, should be more terrifying to a rich man than a mob with axes and torches. The Christian argument has to do with eternity and not just immediate creature comforts. The central figure of the Christian religion said quite unambiguously that it is easier for a camel to go through an eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven. No matter how the rich man may try to breed smaller camels and manufacture larger needles, no matter how hard he snorts and stomps, he cannot get around the reality that to cling to his riches is to put his soul in peril. Although there are commentators who rush to soften the interpretation of this passage, the message is unfortunately backed up by the rest of the New Testament, most notably in Matt. 29:16–22, where a very good man is told to sell all he has and give to the poor, and in James 5:1–6, where the description of the eternal scenario for the rich is not very soft at all. The implication is clear. As Chesterton says, “The obligation of wealth is to chuck it.",,Anonymous,DEA_0FyV0AAu1ut.jpg,nRJSguY2UjwB7LtL5DaZEQ==,,,1500090773 133673435,133710172,2017-07-15 03:53:34,">>133709304 >Classical liberalism is literally left wing. classical liberalism is neither left nor right, its a moral philosophy on the rights and obligations of men.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500090814 133673435,133710249,2017-07-15 03:54:53,">>133710140 But the rich are a small part of the problem–only because there are so few of them. The larger part of the problem is the mentality that drives so many people to chase after money. Again, religion provides a practical solution. There is a commandment that states, “Thou shall not covet.” This little known commandment would have to be rediscovered and re-emphasized in order to build a distributist society. Most people have never heard of Distributism. They know only about socialism and capitalism and favor one or the other while they suffer under a combination of both. Our schools have ill-served us, for the idea has never been taught. If more people were exposed to the idea they would realize that it makes sense. They would at least realize that there is an alternative to the two ideas that they claim polarize them but which in fact unite them in despair. The big schools right now tend to teach the smallest ideas. But Distributism is, like any secret, something that cannot be kept secret forever, in spite of institutionalized censorship. It will be taken seriously in spite of those who sneer at it. It will be stumbled on by those who try to avoid it. To quote Chesterton in reference to something else, Distributism “has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.”",,Anonymous,tumblr_nwibkhN2HW1uaxri9o1_1280.jpg,7lQHRaNSPSrN1nX/te2ETQ==,,,1500090893 133673435,133710293,2017-07-15 03:55:53,">>133710172 Regardless of it's intent. It morphed into a political philosophy and therefore should be judged as one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500090953 133673435,133710304,2017-07-15 03:56:07,Ancaps can't and won't defend themselves from Communist threats from the outside.,,Anonymous,,,,,1500090967 133673435,133710358,2017-07-15 03:57:21,">No Nozick You people fucking disgust me. Get your shit together. >For Nozick, a distribution of goods is just if brought about by free exchange among consenting adults from a just starting position, even if large inequalities subsequently emerge from the process. Nozick appealed to the Kantian idea that people should be treated as ends (what he termed 'separateness of persons'), not merely as a means to some other end. >Most controversially, Nozick argued that a consistent upholding of the non-aggression principle would allow and regard as valid consensual or non-coercive enslavement contracts between adults. He rejected the notion of inalienable rights advanced by Locke and most contemporary capitalist-oriented libertarian academics, writing in Anarchy, State, and Utopia that the typical notion of a ""free system"" would allow adults to voluntarily enter into non-coercive slave contracts.",,Anonymous,hi.jpg,Z8hGOE/wq6jUvSpicV970g==,ZA,,1500091041 133673435,133710426,2017-07-15 03:58:37,">>133708522 What you are describing runs counter to reality. It doesn't account for ambition, an essential human emotion. How do you know that farmer is going to be a bad trader (how are there even traders in a society where everyone is self-sufficient?) , he could have the right genes for it or just be gifted in speech craft and you'd never know because he was never allowed to follow his ambitions. You need outsiders to come into a stale market or a stake society impeded to breathe new life into it. Your system tries to change human nature rather than work with it. It will inevitably fail. Also, it's anti-meritocratic and like every anti-meritocratic society it will become a corrupt tyranny and die out. Which begs the question: if you gained power how many people are you going to kill for the sake of changing human nature? 40 million? 60 million? Or are you going to try and surpass your commie brethren of the 20th century and get a new high score in the game of genocide? It's already happened twice, what makes you so special to think your any better than they are? Your either going to be the next Stalin or the next gulag guard torturing innocents, and if you think you won't your more deluded than I thought.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500091117 133673435,133710427,2017-07-15 03:58:39,">>133710304 And NatSocs will bend over for the commies once their Führer commits suicide.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500091119 133673435,133710472,2017-07-15 03:59:33,">>133710249 >something else this strikes me as a rather important distinction, the 'christian ideal' is not 'something else' why quote a bunch of garbage by some unrelated author? Why not just quote chesterton himself?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500091173 133673435,133710486,2017-07-15 03:59:47,">>133710427 Nice argument, can't even defend your own ideology, kek.",,Anonymous,Libertarians and Ancaps ready to be overrun by commies.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,,,1500091187 133673435,133710570,2017-07-15 04:01:13,">>133710304 That's what heavily armed private mercenaries are for",,Anonymous,1487570184893.png,MdDUTz5TLmIjEyDVAwtVdw==,,,1500091273 133673435,133710611,2017-07-15 04:01:54,">>133710293 are you talking about neo-liberals or Federalism? what retard brand of conservatism are you talking about that is opposed to federalism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500091314 133673435,133710666,2017-07-15 04:02:48,hoppe is a retard. Using the authorutarian practice of exiling to create a better society. Only to put in place a system where the degenerate will flourish,,Anonymous,John_Milton.jpg,mxUFswaX5I1EkioQ2a4KEQ==,NL,,1500091368 133673435,133710676,2017-07-15 04:02:53,">>133710486 Why exactly did you expect an argument in response to your non-argument post?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500091373 133673435,133710690,2017-07-15 04:03:04,">>133710570 Why do you assume there are that many people willing to be private mercenaries and that you both can afford to hire them and that they won't defect when they get a better offer?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500091384 133673435,133710712,2017-07-15 04:03:27,">>133710486 you're in-kind response contends that you cant either. just saying rip",,Anonymous,,,,,1500091407 133673435,133710778,2017-07-15 04:04:36,">>133709304 >Classical liberalism is literally left wing wtf no. one of its best thinkers, john locke, was clearly ""right wing"". https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/locke-political/",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1500091476 133673435,133710922,2017-07-15 04:06:57,">left wing: revolutionary >right wing: traditionalism there is nothing traditional about libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1500091617 133673435,133711004,2017-07-15 04:08:33,">>133710712 >And NatSocs will bend over for the commies once their Führer commits suicide. At least they put up a fight, and against many other countries at the same time no less. Might I remind you it was the U.S, which was once a Libertarian paradise, that funded the Soviets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500091713 133673435,133711063,2017-07-15 04:09:47,">>133710690 it's called a contract.",,Anonymous,alpha.jpg,0WS1ZKqgHtTA1PdCjwrFvw==,ZA,,1500091787 133673435,133711098,2017-07-15 04:10:29,>>133673435,,Anonymous,1499881573266.jpg,EFF0HA8fdkRoF9+grio6Wg==,,,1500091829 133673435,133711155,2017-07-15 04:11:28,">>133710690 What stops that from happening now? People are bought all the time. The only solution is to offer them something better and give them a reason to be loyal to you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500091888 133673435,133711202,2017-07-15 04:12:09,">>133711063 Completely missed the point, so let me spell it out for you. THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTARILY WANT TO BE MERCENARIES",,Anonymous,,,,,1500091929 133673435,133711272,2017-07-15 04:13:24,">>133711155 Because society doesn't solely revolve around profits.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500092004 133673435,133711348,2017-07-15 04:14:53,">>133711202 shouting is not spelling, newfriend. >that they won't defect when they get a better offer? my post was clearly in reply to your last part. see, if you didn't type it like a retard maybe you would have seen that as well.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1500092093 133673435,133711399,2017-07-15 04:15:38,">>133710778 >one of its best thinkers not just best. Locke is often cited as the ""father of liberalism"". Almost everything we talk about in modern culture, society, government in one way or another relies on locke if not indirectly, even marx who never made an argument for communism so much as he intended to rebuke capitalism took time to acknowledge important ideas of Adam Smith, who in turn relies on Locke. The preamble to the declaration of independence was straight plagiarized from locke. (which I wholly believe Jefferson would take pride in were he alive to be asked today) Civilization rests on his shoulders.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500092138 133673435,133711545,2017-07-15 04:17:54,">>133711272 lol",,Anonymous,1498007484487.jpg,pAryU1EbzRgAoo6FKY8/9Q==,,,1500092274 133673435,133711856,2017-07-15 04:23:31,">>133711348 So you just admit that there aren't enough people then? You seem to be fine with that, and, in that case, it doesn't matter if all 3 mercenaries you hire stay true to their contract (which in itself is a big maybe especially if a) a country makes a better offer b) it won't be profitable to do so due to potential odds/loss of manpower) if a country invades, now does it? >>133711545 Yes, your picture is exactly how your Ancap warlord battles would play out, kike enabler. By society, I mean average people. Why would anyone sign up for the military if they're just fighting for oil? That's why you guys hate them, right? Lots of people sign up to due patriotism or what they see as an attack on values.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500092611 133673435,133712188,2017-07-15 04:30:14,">>133711856 And yet these are the rule set we all play by. And if this rule set must exist it should exist to serve the people, your people, my people, any people. A society based on free association opens up the door to a whole different set of rules when it comes to society, social dynamics, and even race.",,Anonymous,1494254741502.jpg,WU/CtrWPObEsibCgsweSOQ==,,,1500093014 133673435,133712210,2017-07-15 04:30:48,">>133711856 you know it's just easier to ask 'who would enforce the contract?' that's a fucking fatal flaw of a libertarian society. someone that enforces contracts would require coercive power over everyone, and then by a loose definition be a government.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1500093048 133673435,133712416,2017-07-15 04:35:05,">>133712188 Nice job dodging the arguments. You can give theoreticals all you want but without actual proof if this ""other set of rules"", you are no better than the communists with their naive assumptions that everyone is the same. >>133712210 Everytime I do they say ""muh honor system"" or say ""no one will make contracts with anyone who breaks them."" The most ludicrous part is that for their ""police"" they said they'll have private organizations for that, which will either lead to a monopoly or a clusterfuck of rules that people still won't really have obligation to follow.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500093305 133673435,133714065,2017-07-15 05:08:59,">>133712416 >You can give theoreticals all you want but without actual proof if this ""other set of rules"" The ideal Libertarian state is the golden city upon a hill. Its not realistically about achieving the perfect society, but about working endlessly toward a more perfect society. In that respect it is utopian (as is fascism towards the same goals). The difference is the use of civil authority vs an autocratic authority to work towards the utopian ideal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500095339 133673435,133714626,2017-07-15 05:19:36,">>133714065 >Its not realistically about achieving the perfect society, but about working endlessly toward a more perfect society. Fascism is about both realistically achieving it, and working towards it. It's about maintaining the golden age of an empire, where the culture, race, and morals of a society are strong, healthy, and at peace with others. Working for profit and only for profit leads only to destruction. National Socialists believe in both profit and spirit. I think the difference is that Libertarians are robotic, and whether they mean it or not, really only care about themselves in the end. That's what it means when individualism is taken too far.",,Anonymous,Fascism redpill.png,K95kbefwED2tyI8Ca+JKdg==,,,1500095976 133673435,133716132,2017-07-15 05:52:06,">>133714626 >Fascism is about both realistically achieving it, and working towards it. there is no way of realistically achieving utopia period. I think your criticisms of libertarianism / liberalism not being able to protect itself politically (and therefore culturally) are valid, its clearly capable of protecting itself militarily and economically. But the criticism that it they only care about themselves is obviated by the willingness and ability to protect itself economically and militarily.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500097926 133673435,133716851,2017-07-15 06:09:12,">>133716132 >But the criticism that it they only care about themselves is obviated by the willingness and ability to protect itself economically and militarily. The criticism is not just gone away with. Things happen in this world, and people can be unlucky. If a factory goes out of business, is that the fault of it's workers? No. However, a Libertarian and An-cap society would have them starve should there not be other jobs around for them. Complications can happen in life, but the Libertarian mindset seems to be ""as long as it's not me."" They don't understand that the environment around them can change their quality of life, and they don't feel an obligation to help others unless they are saint like to begin with. That's why it never sits right with me. Libertarians don't take action when it comes to things like that, while the Nazis would hold charities and such. That's why I say, in the end, they only care about themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500098952 133673435,133717360,2017-07-15 06:20:20,Who are the essential Libertarians to subscribe to on YouTube?,,Anonymous,14962535_1413314215360490_6378227570517445416_n.jpg,AFC0qAqhf1F+vFBtnepMzw==,,,1500099620 133673435,133717416,2017-07-15 06:21:29,">>133693984 >Muh 168 gorrillion",,Anonymous,,,,,1500099689 133673435,133717897,2017-07-15 06:32:16,"when will the west just let the s*mitic ""people"" kill each other?",,Anonymous,images.jpg,UQNZszTu1fpP4p/e2lvG/Q==,BR,,1500100336 133673435,133717980,2017-07-15 06:34:22,>>133717360,,Anonymous,subs.png,HkusdAwFUaEBw524aE7uKg==,,,1500100462 133673435,133718047,2017-07-15 06:35:46,">>133717360 RonPaulLibertyReport Molymeme misesmedia ReasonTV TomWoodsTV",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500100546 133673435,133718181,2017-07-15 06:38:28,">>133717360 Chris Cantwell",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1500100708 133673435,133718316,2017-07-15 06:41:21,">>133717980 >>133718047 >>133718181 Thanks lads. Love from the UK",,Anonymous,18953410_1724460774245831_8440160376418532295_o.png,i1evr/VRb+op5ZXwjTqYIQ==,,,1500100881 133673435,133718417,2017-07-15 06:43:17,"hey fags come debate me about socialism >>133712163",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500100997 133673435,133718548,2017-07-15 06:45:45,">>133718316 >UK >libertarian do you plan to leave?",,Anonymous,Opa6ZCkh.jpg,PEziytvrONNaGZ5aGwduQw==,BR,,1500101145 133673435,133718661,2017-07-15 06:48:23,">>133718417 There can't be a debate over socialism, because it's a political stance while libertarianism isn't.A more proper setup would be ""Authoritarianism vs Libertarianism"".",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500101303 133673435,133718781,2017-07-15 06:50:51,">>133718661 >There can't be a debate over socialism why >because it's a political stance what the fuck are you on about, thats literally the most retarded thing ive heard",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500101451 133673435,133718849,2017-07-15 06:52:06,">>133718781 Oh nice argumentation there",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500101526 133673435,133718954,2017-07-15 06:54:15,">>133718548 No. We plan to start winning.",,Anonymous,3OddQwdF_400x400.jpg,v4auWyMrs0rUk8bbDRvWtQ==,,,1500101655 133673435,133719027,2017-07-15 06:55:38,">>133718849 i gave a completely valid argument, i pointed out that you have not explained at all why the fact that socialism is political means it is not a subject that can be debated on. you quite literally gave no arguments to back up your claims, while i have no claims to back up.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500101738 133673435,133719043,2017-07-15 06:55:59,">>133678285 >>133678344 >>133679764 >>133685084 Nice thought police. How does that cum taste?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500101759 133673435,133719085,2017-07-15 06:56:44,">>133716851 >The criticism is not just gone away with. Things happen in this world, and people can be unlucky. If a factory goes out of business, is that the fault of it's workers? No. This is a bit hyperbolic. It is indeed sometimes the fault of the workers. >However, a Libertarian and An-cap society would have them starve should there not be other jobs around for them. Nobody starves in the west that you wouldnt euthanize for being a degenerate or retarded draw on society under fascism anyway. >Complications can happen in life, but the Libertarian mindset seems to be ""as long as it's not me."" They don't understand that the environment around them can change their quality of life, and they don't feel an obligation to help others unless they are saint like to begin with. >as long as its not my actions being seen as degenerate >as long as its not my culture being bulldozed ""successful ideology"" and ""selfish cooperation"" are tautological. >That's why it never sits right with me. Libertarians don't take action when it comes to things like that, while the Nazis would hold charities and such. That's why I say, in the end, they only care about themselves. charity is not exclusive to national socialism, cmon now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500101804 133673435,133719141,2017-07-15 06:57:43,">>133719027 >i gave a completely valid argument No, you said it was ""retarded"".That's not an argument. >>133719027 >you quite literally gave no arguments to back up your claims Yes I did.The word ""Libertarianism"" carries a meaning, you should look it up.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500101863 133673435,133719219,2017-07-15 06:59:22,">>133717360 not necessarily high philosophy, but for your bi-weekly gitmo nation media assassination noagendashow.com shows are also available on w/e podcast app and are updated to youtube weekly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500101962 133673435,133719295,2017-07-15 07:00:45,">>133719043 alright wait for the gunman to pull the trigger. See where that gets you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500102045 133673435,133719297,2017-07-15 07:00:46,">>133719141 i think we got off on the wrong foot. Your claim is ""There can't be a debate over socialism"" your reasoning for which is ""because it's a political stance while libertarianism isn't"" in this case libertarianism is an example of something which can be debated over, with this example ""A more proper setup would be ""Authoritarianism vs Libertarianism""."" is this correct? if so, explain how your reasoning supports the claim that there cant be a debate over socialism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500102046 133673435,133719984,2017-07-15 07:14:30,">>133719297 Libertarianism is a moral stance that argues there should be no coersion against people who haven't violated the natural right of another.So it's logical conclusion is the absence of a state.Therefore socialism and libertarianism assume different frameworks of how a society should work, because socialism cannot happen voluntarily in a scale larger than a self-sufficient community, you did always have to trample over somone who doesn't want to participate.That's why I said the correct debate is if there should or not be a central power who rules over people or if they should be left alone (giving that they haven't violated someone's right to be left alone). So ""Authoritarianism vs Libertarianism"".",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500102870 133673435,133720689,2017-07-15 07:27:57,">>133719984 and for some reason you couldnt translate that into a debate between the socialistic policies of an authoritarian government (the current standard) vs libertarianism (your own ideals)? >the correct debate is if there should or not be a central power who rules over people or if they should be left alone but this isnt the debate, the debate is about socialistic economic policies put into practice by a government. you can argue against socialism in this framework easily, you can hold the belief that socialism should not happen because it requires 'coer[c]ion against people who haven't violated the natural right of another' and argue that the principles that socialism is founded on are wrong, but you cant go around trying to force everyone to work within your own narrow-minded framework. You could even stretch those cognitive fibers and put yourself in a hypothetical situation where its a debate about socialist government vs capitalist government. Theres no need to refuse to debate about anything that could potentially include a government, that just indicates a lack of flexibility, narrow-mindedness, and lack of any knowledge about the very thing you claim to oppose. also >socialism cannot happen voluntarily in a scale larger than a self-sufficient community this is wrong. cultural socialism could indeed work in an anarchist society, it would require people to be willing to share, which happens all the time. in this case a distributed network of sharing will lead to everyone getting support from others so you cant really say it cant happen voluntarily. i would suggest you read some of the posts in this thread >>133712163",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500103677 133673435,133720765,2017-07-15 07:29:31,>>133676036,,Anonymous,1491162566636.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1500103771 133673435,133720990,2017-07-15 07:34:14,">>133720689 You don't understand.There can't be libertarian polices because there's no policy with 100% approval.There isn't""stretching"" or being ""open-mided"", that's the WHOLE POINT of morals -- THEY'RE ABSOLUTE AND UNBENDABLE.Libertarianism is not a political stance, again, trying to have you understand this.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500104054 133673435,133721053,2017-07-15 07:35:35,">>133720689 >cultural socialism It's called charity, already exists.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500104135 133673435,133721258,2017-07-15 07:39:15,Libertarianism was pushed by Jews to remove non-Jew's group and ethnic identity. An atomized individual is easier to control.,,Anonymous,purecoincidence.jpg,CzYnY9t617BgzutDWpiv3Q==,CA,,1500104355 133673435,133721355,2017-07-15 07:41:03,">>133721258 you should know the meaning of the words you use",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500104463 133673435,133721548,2017-07-15 07:44:30,">>133720765 take this to reddit, this is a cringy meme and if its not a meme then your reasoning is horrible. some other points for improvement: - Your blackletter font and lemon milk do not stylistically match - Your color scheme is black, yellow and white but then you have random red in there? make the red to black or some other color that blends better. >>133720990 oh i see, so you are using libertarianism as not a political view but a system of morality. thats a good way of avoiding challenging your beliefs. (pretty sure thats a fallacy though) however if you are of the same opinion as me then you will believe that the only morality is in reason. there is no 'good' or 'bad' apart from good or bad ideas, logically speaking. >There can't be libertarian polic[i]es i never said anything about 'libertarian policies' you really pulled this one out of your ass didnt you >Libertarianism is not a political stance it is though, by definition, and by all merits it is a political philosophy. >>133721053 >It's called charity, already exists. yes i know, your point? i was using it as an example because you said that charity couldnt exist without a state.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500104670 133673435,133722162,2017-07-15 07:54:54,"ENLIST NOW >>133721380 >>133721380 >>133721380",,Anonymous,14_3.png,5AZHUBX5qjyKL7z7K1kraA==,,,1500105294 133673435,133722166,2017-07-15 07:55:01,">>133721548 >oh i see, so you are using libertarianism as not a political view but a system of morality. thats a good way of avoiding challenging your beliefs. (pretty sure thats a fallacy though) Where's your argument here? Government polices aren't logically compatible with the libertarian position, it's not about ""beliefs"".You were the one who came to the libertarian general without even knowing what it meant. >there is no 'good' or 'bad' apart from good or bad ideas, logically speaking. Yes there is.Couldn't expect a socialist to not be a relativist :^). >i never said anything about 'libertarian policies' You said it's ""narrow-minded"" to not want to discuss governmnent policies even though I already explained you can't have a libertarian position on ANY political practice because it's AGAINST politics entirely. >you said that charity couldnt exist without a state. I never said that.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500105301 133673435,133722324,2017-07-15 07:57:29,Reminder that libertarians will be thrown into the gas chamber too.,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1500105449 133673435,133722402,2017-07-15 07:58:40,">>133722324 >flag",,Anonymous,1499523743802.webm,Eac17TSWY0HrfSdr56QKzw==,BR,,1500105520 133673435,133722503,2017-07-15 08:00:26,">>133722402 >flag",,Anonymous,Brazil.jpg,IpZMwphdWlrlNy+YqTDFlA==,DE,,1500105626 133673435,133722607,2017-07-15 08:02:08,">>133722503 you're not gassing anyone, Hans your children will be turning their asses to MECCA 20x a day",,Anonymous,mfw 4chan virgins.jpg,auR+oQ+teS2EK2OEdqfqbw==,BR,,1500105728 133673435,133722805,2017-07-15 08:05:21,">>133722607 >Germany is 5% muslim >Brazil is 90% monkeys and 100% corrupt >not even a first world country Hmm I wonder which one is the shit country",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1500105921 133673435,133722822,2017-07-15 08:05:35,">>133674149 Most Americans seem to hate freedom, in my experience.",,Anonymous,They don't want freedom.jpg,vkF3AoMEtY2MtUV7CI70/w==,,,1500105935 133673435,133723305,2017-07-15 08:13:59,">>133717360 BillWhittleChannel AesopsRetreat",,Anonymous,1448149656293.jpg,rDl5z9EQHwNE5eQ2c27R1g==,US,,1500106439 133673435,133723460,2017-07-15 08:16:39,">>133722166 >>You were the one who came to the libertarian general without even knowing what it meant. >implying i didnt know what libertarian meant false, i used to be just like you until i realized how fucking retarded i was being. (i still hold some beliefs over from that period, one of which is the belief in decentralized government which is what hoppe-libertarianism sort of advocates) >Yes there is 'good' and 'bad' okay, do you have any reasoning to back this? >implying i am a relativist this is wrong, how the fuck did you get this idea from 'the only morality is in reason. there is no 'good' or 'bad' apart from good or bad ideas, logically speaking.' look up Immanuel Kant, i came to the same conclusions as him. >>i never said anything about 'libertarian policies' >You said it's ""narrow-minded"" to not want to discuss governmnent policies not quite, I did not say 'it's ""narrow-minded"" to not want to discuss governmnent policies' I DID say 'its narrow-minded to refuse to debate about anything that could potentially include a government and try to force everyone to work within this framework' and quite frankly that IS narrow minded. Also how does saying this ^^^ mean anything to do with libertarian policies? >you can't have a libertarian position on ANY political practice because it's AGAINST politics entirely hahaha youve got to be kidding me. You dont understand the meaning of 'politics' do you? an anarchist form of government is still a form of government, you are just not being governed by a state. politics still comes into play because the politics of it all is the LACK of government.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500106599 133673435,133723480,2017-07-15 08:16:56,">>133722166 >>you said that charity couldnt exist without a state. >I never said that. really? want me to bring up your quote? here: '[charity] cannot happen voluntarily in a scale larger than a self-sufficient community' >>133719984 to which i replied 'this is wrong. [charity] could indeed work in an anarchist society' and you replied indicating that you think cultural socialism and charity are the same thing. Therefore, i replaced these equal and interchangeable terms to 'charity'",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500106616 133673435,133723659,2017-07-15 08:20:09,">>133722324 Reminder that Nazis didn't really gas the Jews and that fags like you are larpers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500106809 133673435,133723689,2017-07-15 08:20:30,,,Anonymous,1499274565077.jpg,7oLU5EFUa3Qyt5NsTfntYw==,IL,,1500106830 133673435,133724351,2017-07-15 08:30:48,">>133723659 This. Jfc, if you want to larp, go on /bant/ or put on a Kekistani flag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500107448 133673435,133724565,2017-07-15 08:34:03,">>133723689 Soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vGd1Oy7Cw0",,Anonymous,,,,,1500107643 133673435,133725250,2017-07-15 08:45:00,">>133723480 >>133723460 >>133722607 my logical explanations and proper arguments have beaten the ape he knows he cant come up with enough absurd strawmans and fallacies to faze me any other libertarians want to debate?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500108300 133673435,133725376,2017-07-15 08:47:34,">>133710690 Because to do otherwise runs contrary to societal demand. Why do you assume there are that many people willing to elect trustworthy representatives that won't betray you when they get a better offer? The motivations behind acting in the interests of oneself, ones' nuclear family, ones' friends and ones' community are stronger than the motivations behind acting in the interests of greater society. Surely you, as a NatSoc can identify with this in your opposition to Communism/International Socialism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500108454 133673435,133726153,2017-07-15 09:00:35,Bump.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500109235 133673435,133727597,2017-07-15 09:25:20,">>133692469 Because it's a lot more difficult and expensive to find and mine new sources of gold than it is to create credit out of nothing. Additionally as the price of gold goes down it becomes less and less profitable to mine the stuff in the first place. Which gives it's value some stability. The value of state backed credit has absolutely no bearing on the value of producing it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500110720 133673435,133729410,2017-07-15 09:52:21,"So do you guys believe that freedom is the most important thing, even over the practicality of things? Are you okay with having fire fighters and cops? If so, why? I'm currently trying to sort out my own thoughts and feelings but having trouble, would really like to see how others think",,Anonymous,,,,,1500112341 133673435,133729557,2017-07-15 09:54:42,">>133677064 this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500112482 133673435,133729739,2017-07-15 09:57:14,">>133729410 Why would you assume those services couldn't be provided the market?",,Anonymous,C7FOghHXgAA_NjG.jpg,KSIUq2DbDqJ0Vd2LMEPbew==,GB,,1500112634 133673435,133729924,2017-07-15 10:00:04,">>133729739 My main issue is over the last several years my optimism and believe in the average person has dropped dramatically. I've talked to and dealt with a lot of people who have very low standards, either out of ignorance or laziness, and they're willing to eat whatever shit a company lays out to them. I just fear that if everything was to become privatized, the quality of life would drop because the average person's low standards would allow for it, people are becoming too weak these days to even boycott video game companies, let alone fire fighters or cops.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500112804 133673435,133730056,2017-07-15 10:02:19,">>133729924 It's not people's standards that increases the quality and lowers the cost of goods and services in a free market. It's competition. If it is just as easy for you to pay for a lesser service as it is to pay for a superior equivalent service, your ""standards"" are fairly irrelevant.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500112939 133673435,133730091,2017-07-15 10:02:54,">>133729410 Imo I care more about decentralizing the federal government. I think having all of that handled at a state level is perfectly okay, because I don't think it's something a functioning society should have to worry about. I don't necessary disagree that it can't be provided from a capitalistic standpoint, but I also feel that there were some serious problems that led to the centralization of firefighting. (Something along the lines of fire fighters refusing to put out certain fires.) Especially since a good chunk of fire fighters are volunteers. Since you're in the /lrg/, you're going to get major pushback from ancaps and larping ancaps alike, but at the end of the day not everything about a common shared service is LITERALLY STAGNATING THE FREE MARKET",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500112974 133673435,133730848,2017-07-15 10:13:56,">>133716132 >there is no way of realistically achieving utopia period. Hitler almost did it. Why can't it be done? You sound like a nihilist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500113636 133673435,133731322,2017-07-15 10:20:36,">>133727597 what happens when gold is already concentrated in the hands of a few elite circles (jews) what happens when they use their control of the gold to fuck with all the countries in the worlds economies? why is social control of fiat currency a bad thing?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500114036 133673435,133731575,2017-07-15 10:23:52,">>133731322 I'm not sure i know what you mean by ""concentrated in the hands of a few elite"". Currency is constantly circulated, if it isn't, i.e. someone is hoarding it, the value of the currency in circulation increases. Under capitalism capital will flow to wherever it's most productive, it doesn't matter where it started. You'll have to explain how they're ""fucking with all the countries in the worlds economies"", that's a very vague statement.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500114232 133673435,133732264,2017-07-15 10:33:48,">>133731575 >someone is hoarding it, the value of the currency in circulation increases. bingo so if someone is hoarding it and more and more falls into their hands, their gold becomes more and more valuable due to the scarcity outside of this individuals hoard goes back to that old saying, control the money and u control the world >Under capitalism capital will flow to wherever it's most productive, it doesn't matter where it started. under which principle does this occur? i dont believe this is the case. provide some reasoning to back this please >You'll have to explain how they're ""fucking with all the countries in the worlds economies"", that's a very vague statement. have you never seen the money masters? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miD_mtAEdRs just to get you up to speed :---^)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500114828 133673435,133732388,2017-07-15 10:35:35,">>133731575 also you didnt answer my question of 'why is social control of fiat currency a bad thing?'",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500114935 133673435,133732972,2017-07-15 10:42:59,">>133730848 no. maybe you should just read the book. Its not even supposed to be realistic, its satirical. alternatively ""A modern utopia"" - HG Wells (1905)",,Anonymous,,,,,1500115379 133673435,133733010,2017-07-15 10:43:20,"ok times up im going to sleep was good debating you retarded libertarians though look forward to next time",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500115400 133673435,133733143,2017-07-15 10:44:56,">>133732972 I'll put it on my reading list. But you're still not tackling my argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500115496 133673435,133733354,2017-07-15 10:47:29,">>133733143 I did tackle your argument. your argument is that utopia is a practical ideal. It isnt, its impractical by definition.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500115649 133673435,133733367,2017-07-15 10:47:37,">>133732264 >>133732388 True, the value of the currency any given individual is hoarding will increase, but not necessarily at a rate higher than the interest or dividends they'd receive were that currency invested. I'm not sure why you think this is such a problem. The reason capital flows to where it's most productive is simply, the majority of loose capital will be invested in industries where productivity is greatest, giving a higher return. ""Socialised"" anything is bad in my opinion, because you introduce into the equation human error and worse still the potential for corruption.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500115657 133673435,133733598,2017-07-15 10:50:30,">>133733354 It's ideal and it can be implemented. Just because it's harder to achieve doesn't mean it's impossible. Stop thinking it's impossible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500115830 133673435,133733618,2017-07-15 10:50:47,">>133699642 >Thinking fascism will work How is Junior High? Did you get a girlfriend yet?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500115847 133673435,133735301,2017-07-15 11:11:26,">>133730848 >Hitler almost did it. This is why I hate the dipshit redditors that only catalog away what they want to hear and ignoret he rest. Hitler was aggresively expansionist and would seize factories and resources because his brand of Socialism was retarded like the rest and couldn't reliably provide for it's people. Which is why his whole schtick was that ""the country is too small for the German people"". Had the Brits and French not been cucks and slaped his shit the first time he tried that push into the Rhine the war wouldn't have happened and Hilter's general wohld have ousted him for his dangrrous folly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500117086 133673435,133735348,2017-07-15 11:12:09,,,Anonymous,1495835380048.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1500117129 133673435,133735673,2017-07-15 11:16:18,">>133735301 People provided what they needed on their own, everyone had a job. How is that bad? (((socialism))) is not National Socialism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500117378 133673435,133735812,2017-07-15 11:18:13,">>133733598 its not about ""implementing something"" its about achieving moral / philisophical unity between ""everyone"" while still making societal progress. These two things are competing forces, its not possible to ever in reality achieve both at the same time. Its satire, not reality. just read the book.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500117493 133673435,133736014,2017-07-15 11:20:59,">>133735812 The Germans had moral unity and had societal progress. Prove me wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500117659 133673435,133736212,2017-07-15 11:23:56,">>133736014 > moral unity >everyone had exactly the same moral code and nobody had any dissenting ideas or even questioned anything at all prove to me this is even possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500117836 133673435,133736563,2017-07-15 11:28:12,">>133736212 You're thinking about unity as if everyone had the same face. Unity as in everyone has a general sense of what was right and wrong. If everyone had exactly the same beliefs then that would mean everyone couldn't think for themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500118092 133673435,133736771,2017-07-15 11:30:47,">>133736563 >You're thinking about unity as if everyone had the same face. ya, that is the utopian ideal you have been telling me is possible for the past hour. seriously, just read the book.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500118247 133673435,133737102,2017-07-15 11:34:54,">>133736771 That's not a utopia. That's a society with no mind.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500118494 133673435,133737239,2017-07-15 11:36:20,">>133737102 I T S S A T I R E",,Anonymous,,,,,1500118580 133673435,133737308,2017-07-15 11:37:14,">>133735673 >FeeltheBurn.jpg ""It's DEMOCRATIC Socialism!""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500118634 133673435,133737471,2017-07-15 11:39:04,">>133737239 Did Germans have moral unity and societal progress?",,Anonymous,1500121681647.jpg,lfH4QKjcNjGJcABBikp5pg==,US,,1500118744 133673435,133737650,2017-07-15 11:41:09,">>133737471 it was something approaching the Utopian ideal yes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500118869 133673435,133737885,2017-07-15 11:43:36,">>133737650 So it is possible for a Utopian ideal to be achieved. While very hard to achieve, is possible. Why not strive for that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500119016 133673435,133737961,2017-07-15 11:44:27,">>133737885 no its not possible. yes we should strive for it. that was my original point.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500119067 133673435,133738365,2017-07-15 11:49:23,">>133737961 I think there's a disconnect between our definitions of utopia. Utopia for me is something as perfect as imperfection can get. Because we are human it's impossible for a true utopia, but in an imperfect world a utopia is the best an imperfection can strive for. The little details about what is wrong in such a ""utopia"" is irrelevant because humans aren't supremely perfect. So Germany was close to a utopia.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500119363 133673435,133738392,2017-07-15 11:49:41,">>133735673 who paid for the jobs? If the jobs weren't government jobs, with which money did the gov stimulate the industry to take in more workers?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500119381 133673435,133738735,2017-07-15 11:53:48,">>133738365 >Utopia for me is something as perfect as imperfection can get. Because we are human it's impossible for a true utopia, but in an imperfect world a utopia is the best an imperfection can strive for. The little details about what is wrong in such a ""utopia"" is irrelevant because humans aren't supremely perfect. dude, its not about your fucking opinion. its a fucking book, called utopia the book called utopia, has shit in it about the society called utopia. that shit about utopia, is what utopia is. everything else that has ever used the word utopia is talking about that one book called utopia about the place utopia that IS PERFECT. seriously arguing with you is like talking to a nigger.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500119628 133673435,133738886,2017-07-15 11:55:31,">>133738392 ""Germany's money wasn't backed by gold. It was essentially a receipt for labor and materials delivered to the government. Hitler said, ""For every mark issued, we required the equivalent of a mark's worth of work done, or goods produced."" The government paid workers in Certificates. Workers spent those Certificates on other goods and services, thus creating more jobs for more people. In this way the German people climbed out of the crushing debt imposed on them by the international bankers.""",,Anonymous,How Germany became RICH AF.png,VphFSJrX+iBodlRifT9yww==,US,,1500119731 133673435,133738960,2017-07-15 11:56:26,">>133738392 What I meant by provided for themselves, is that everyone had a job. Not that the government didn't play a role in economy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500119786 133673435,133739086,2017-07-15 11:57:52,">>133738886 seems like a keynesian shithole too me. so the government just issues worhtless pieces of paper, also who decides what the equivalent of a man's work labour is, the degenerate göring, sure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500119872 133673435,133739222,2017-07-15 11:59:32,">>133738735 I don't care about some fucking book. I'm giving you my definition to move forward. If you're talking about a completely perfect society with no flaws and a set of morals that everyone follows, then there can not be a utopia by that definition. Humans aren't perfect and it's stupid to even talk about a utopia in that sense if it's never relevant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500119972 133673435,133739324,2017-07-15 12:00:44,">>133739086 Stop falseflagging you fucking kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500120044 133673435,133739619,2017-07-15 12:04:03,">>133739222 >I don't care about some fucking book. I'm giving you my definition to move forward. Let me give you MY definition of nigger and stick your face next to it, and then you tell me how relevant my definition is... You should write a book called a niggers utopia and then maybe someone will care about your opinion. >If you're talking about a completely perfect society with no flaws and a set of morals that everyone follows, then there can not be a utopia by that definition. ya, thats the point of Utopia, the book about Utopia, by the writer that invented the word Utopia. >Humans aren't perfect and it's stupid to even talk about a utopia in that sense if it's never relevant. ideals can be relevant even if they arnt achievable. - What is christianity?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500120243 133673435,133739937,2017-07-15 12:07:50,">>133739619 >ya, thats the point of Utopia, the book about Utopia, by the writer that invented the word Utopia. I can't take this seriously anymore. If you're going to go back to that silly book instead of moving forward then I'm done here. It's not worth my time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500120470 133744358,133744358,2017-07-15 12:56:45,"""Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God"" - Benjamin Franklin This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_picarda.png,5wgXPt6u7wPa1RvYUXb/2A==,GB,,1500123405 133744358,133744569,2017-07-15 12:59:15,">>133744358 >giving property rights to bourgeoise shitlords absolutely disgusting",,Anonymous,,,,,1500123555 133744358,133744582,2017-07-15 12:59:23,Lol,,Anonymous,,,,,1500123563 133744358,133744609,2017-07-15 12:59:39,Bump for private death squads!,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1500123579 133744358,133744641,2017-07-15 13:00:02,">>133744569 Class ideology is a cancer.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500123602 133744358,133744676,2017-07-15 13:00:26,No step on snek,,Anonymous,,,,,1500123626 133744358,133744720,2017-07-15 13:00:57,Can we talk about libertarian banking? I accept the Fed is awful but I do not trust gold to create a stable economy. What is your ideal banking system?,,Anonymous,gold.jpg,zTMPFY4X3+miYi4OGwBi4A==,US,,1500123657 133744358,133744962,2017-07-15 13:03:29,">>133744720 You could set the Fed up as a simple clearinghouse as it was originally intended to be. Then just let the interest rate float on the market.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500123809 133744358,133745039,2017-07-15 13:04:11,"""Against individualism, the Fascist conception is for the State; and it is for the individual in so far as he coincides with the State . . . . It is opposed to classical Liberalism . . . . Liberalism denied the State in the interests of the particular individual; Fascism reaffirms the State as the true reality of the individual.""",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500123851 133744358,133745055,2017-07-15 13:04:23,">>133744720 Cryptocurrency, obviously. I'm not big on futurology, but I would love to see a world where everything is radically decentralised by P2P technology.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500123863 133744358,133745151,2017-07-15 13:05:24,">>133745055 I was thinking about this too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500123924 133744358,133745345,2017-07-15 13:07:39,">>133744358 >promoting a usurious ideology created by Jews meant to benefit the creditor class and subvert Catholic social teaching disgusting",,Anonymous,1498184784450.jpg,MLBYfqWf/p1DGuYk3amFPw==,US,,1500124059 133744358,133745493,2017-07-15 13:09:23,">>133745345 No, it's an Anglo ideology. Jews just like money, so obviously every economist regardless of doctrine is a Jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500124163 133744358,133745686,2017-07-15 13:11:12,">>133745493 >It's an anglo ideology desu this we've had a strong tradition of natural rights for centuries of thinkers",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500124272 133744358,133745760,2017-07-15 13:11:55,">>133745039 >The state is the true individual. Could you be any more mystical?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500124315 133744358,133746073,2017-07-15 13:15:18,">>133745345 I remember when /pol/ attacked ideas not people",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500124518 133744358,133746197,2017-07-15 13:16:43,">>133744358 Thanks for posting. Bump for interest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500124603 133744358,133746245,2017-07-15 13:17:15,"Is anyone else convinced that Nord races are socialist by nature? It seems to me that germans, swedes and the sort are bitterly opposed to individualism, and value inter dependence. while remnants of the British empire value liberty, high class/culture and oppose dogmatic collectivism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500124635 133744358,133746473,2017-07-15 13:20:00,">>133745760 It just means that values, preferences & ideas are culturally created in the state organization. The individualist notion that individuals create their own values independently is wrong, i.e. not the true reality. If we want stronger values, we need a stronger state.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500124800 133744358,133746595,2017-07-15 13:21:26,">>133744720 Barterism. And the right to create currency.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500124886 133744358,133746623,2017-07-15 13:21:46,">>133746245 >while remnants of the British empire value liberty, high class/culture and oppose dogmatic collectivism lmao",,Anonymous,1984.jpg,PhRGx//mBo8AB4cpKF6sPw==,US,,1500124906 133744358,133746655,2017-07-15 13:22:07,">>133746245 I wish we were. Liberalism and individualism is gay and permeates everything.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500124927 133744358,133746755,2017-07-15 13:23:06,">>133745493 Anglo might as well be another word for Jewish if you look at the history of British empiricism. >every economist regardless of doctrine is a Jew Economics used to be a moral philosophy. To think that humans are tools for the economy, and not vice versa, is to think like a Jew, and that's what libertarianism promotes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500124986 133744358,133747116,2017-07-15 13:27:20,">>133746473 Genuine societal values are not created by the state, they are created by individuals in a society interacting with each other. It comes about naturally. In fact the only time you see the state creating values for a society is when a certain chosen people decides to push multiculturalism, gay acceptance, and generally destructive degeneracy. This is not to say I am opposed to you and your kind collectivizing to create the ideal society for you. I'm just saying that the state has nothing to do with it. You should govern yourselves. Not governed by someone who thinks they're above their people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500125240 133744358,133747120,2017-07-15 13:27:21,">>133746595 >the right to create currency. so just eliminating counterfit laws?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500125241 133744358,133747193,2017-07-15 13:28:09,Why does /pol/ now hate free trade?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1500125289 133744358,133747209,2017-07-15 13:28:21,">>133746623 Well duh, that's what happens when you let the ZOG in. But to be clear, I consider American liberalism Anglo as fuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500125301 133744358,133747279,2017-07-15 13:29:03,">>133746655 I would say it's the Jew run state forcing values on your people that are incompatible with your natural inclinations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500125343 133744358,133747497,2017-07-15 13:31:41,">>133746245 The truth is that there are strong urges amongst all people to be both ""socialist"" or egalitarian, and individualists. Look at a tribal setting; most people are of relatively equal standing and the crops and hunts are generally shared amongst the people. At the same time, people have always striven to acquire the goods they personally seek and this leads to individual preferences and eventually to status differences. Both are true statements about the character of human societies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500125501 133744358,133747700,2017-07-15 13:33:47,">>133746755 Well I would say the moral philosophy of liberty started with Aristotle. His philosophy was partially adopted by Anglo Christians in the middle ages, it brought great success and legacy and created what we know as mainstream religious Christian Libertarianism. The Jewish influences were much later. They started showing up at the early 20th century.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500125627 133744358,133748010,2017-07-15 13:37:00,">>133747700 I didn't really make my point. The philosophy that evolved into Libertarianism was around long before the Anglo ages, but it has never been Jewish until modern times.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500125820 133744358,133748368,2017-07-15 13:40:42,">>133747116 What do you think the state is? There can't be anything above and beyond humans interacting with eachother, that's a confusion. Liberal democracies are not just states, they have ideological baggage in the form of individualism. If you understand that values are culturally created you can see why democracy is a poor way of translating these values into a policy that's supposed to represent the people. In order to have real unity between people and government you first need to have real unity between people. Fascism ties people together so tightly that preference, equality, government lose their meaning. Individualism is just as much of a collective idea as collectivism. The difference is that collectivism has positive impact on a people and individualism has a negative impact.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500126042 133744358,133748535,2017-07-15 13:42:31,">>133748010 the concepts of economic and personal liberty date from the early modern period in Europe, roughly 1500 to 1700, when people learned to respect religious conscience and the foundations of liberal economic theory were laid down.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500126151 133744358,133748589,2017-07-15 13:43:01,This is the problem with thick libertarians. You people always end up lapsing in your commitment to NAP in favor of the second set of values and preferences you adopt.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500126181 133744358,133749363,2017-07-15 13:52:00,">>133748368 You're absolutely right about liberal Democracy. How could anyone have property rights if you could just vote them away? Liberalism and Democracy are a combination born to fail. While fascist states can come about naturally and voluntarily it's often not the case. Communist dictators and corporatists are examples of this. The alternative we want is non coercive. No fascism without contract with the people. No force without consent. This way those who want to be lead can be and those who are rugged individualists can govern themselves the way they see fit. We want a plurality of government. Not forced collectivism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500126720 133744358,133749576,2017-07-15 13:54:16,">>133749363 Fascism doesn't need consent. Consent is also an individualist idea. The key thing is that we are peoples, organisms in superorganisms, this is a fact and consent has nothing to do with it.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500126856 133744358,133749748,2017-07-15 13:56:04,">>133748589 What thin Libertarians fail to realise is the nuanced position of thick Libertarians. We never assume a position of forcing our values on anyone. We do however choose not to associate with those that reject our values. If we create a community based on our values you have no right to change the way we organize nor do you have a right to live in our community. None of which violates property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500126964 133744358,133750107,2017-07-15 13:59:37,"Look, it's your guy Justin Amash voting for Pentagon funding of transgender surgeries This is what you libertyfags are supporting",,Anonymous,>libertyfags.png,4t/KHHecyq/VztQf4NeFBQ==,US,,1500127177 133744358,133750167,2017-07-15 14:00:23,">>133749576 That's my point. If there is no consent it is a state. A state that will subjugate the people it claims to protect. In a sense, it's phony nationalism, which is just as bad as our state enforced multiculturalism. Genuine nationalism is spontaneous, and based in a culture created by individuals. The Nation forms in consent, not by the force of the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500127223 133744358,133750287,2017-07-15 14:01:32,">>133750107 >Libertarian party >/Ourguy/ You must be new here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500127292 133744358,133750497,2017-07-15 14:04:06,">>133750107 He's a cuck libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500127446 133744358,133750669,2017-07-15 14:06:06,">>133750107 /lrg/ is a stand against libertien faggotry. Cucks like him are crypto leftists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500127566 133744358,133751401,2017-07-15 14:14:21,"most libertarians support technology and economics and such. But what do you think about Varg's argument? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COVt9ewNoek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500128061 133744358,133751447,2017-07-15 14:14:49,Bump.,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1500128089 133744358,133752597,2017-07-15 14:27:31,">>133750167 Again, what do you think a state is? What disqualifies it from being spontaneous? I'm telling you that personal liberty is a meaningless concept, unlike the concepts of home, family, comradery, purpose.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500128851 133744358,133752799,2017-07-15 14:29:48,">>133752597 And why is liberty more meaningless than those?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500128988 133744358,133753361,2017-07-15 14:35:45,">>133752597 The state is coercion and violence. It is not a people governing themselves according to their interests and values. It is a man who points a gun at you while claiming it's in your best interest. I believe in family and purpose. But I cannot do what's best for my family if I am enslaved to the state. The state will always prevent me from doing what is right. If the state comes before the individual, then it follows that the state comes before the family as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500129345 133744358,133753434,2017-07-15 14:36:39,">>133752799 Because it's just not true that human beings become more free if there is less social discipline. Humans are the most free when they are tied to the social structures of family, state, people, e.t.c. with no chance of escape. So home, family, comradery, purpose are not meaningless because they are not self-contradictory, they represent complete ideas. Personal liberty is a concept presupposes that atomized and rootless humans are the one's that have liberty when it's really not true.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500129399 133744358,133753448,2017-07-15 14:36:48,">>133752799 >muh liberty people don't want liberty, nor do they thrive under liberty people need something giving their lives meaning and direction. Otherwise they are aimless",,Anonymous,1500057176291.jpg,wC0u6VhxQUuYsQ9gzheZtw==,US,,1500129408 133744358,133753604,2017-07-15 14:38:14,">>133753361 >It is a man who points a gun at you while claiming it's in your best interest. You think that way because you recognize correctly that the modern state isn't in your interest. That doesn't mean all states are against their people's interest",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500129494 133744358,133753703,2017-07-15 14:39:07,">>133753448 >people don't want liberty, nor do they thrive under liberty Prove it. >>133753434 You clearly do not understand the meaning of liberty, to purpose that - ""Humans are the most free when they are tied to the social structures of family, state, people, e.t.c. with no chance of escape"". Completely self-contradictory, used to justify emotional dogma.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500129547 133744358,133753797,2017-07-15 14:40:16,">>133744358 Reminder to the Britbong owner of the /lrg/ pastebin: Reminder that ""Objectivism"" deserves a mention in the OP as it encapsulates Nationalism, Capitalism, Meritocracy, Individualism, and Libertarianism all rolled into one. Libertarianism is only useful as a technical qualifier and is literally incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk",,Anonymous,1499964024573.jpg,5rKAutnnZxddl57dVaInnQ==,US,,1500129616 133744358,133753971,2017-07-15 14:42:11,">>133753703 Nobody supports libertarianism. But nationalism is something that millions of people will willingly give their lives for The ideas of king and country motivate people far more than abstract idealism and abstract concepts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2_RbFfkAv0",,Anonymous,1498107337369.png,+zuG6MS/3F+kSk6jjqzjYw==,US,,1500129731 133744358,133754023,2017-07-15 14:42:44,">>133753361 How dumb are you? If people cannot govern themselves to your standards in a state organization then why would they be able to do so in any other organization? I'm only saying that we're not really obliged to tolerate people who are ""out for themselves"" and we are not obliged to let them hold resources as property.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500129764 133744358,133754151,2017-07-15 14:44:03,">>133753434 Having little social discipline has nothing to do with freedom and the responsibilty that comes with it. It seems that ""freedom"" and ""individualism"" to you means only abandoning your family, your people and your culture. And not the freedom to do what is right by your loved ones and by your people. People often forget that freedom is a moral principle. When a society is immoral it is not free. It is enslaved to degeneracy. There is no separation of liberty and responsibilty, they are the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500129843 133744358,133754154,2017-07-15 14:44:03,">>133753797 I can add objectivism to the end of our list, sure. >>133753971 >Nobody supports libertarianism. But, anon, people don't know what's best for them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500129843 133744358,133754331,2017-07-15 14:45:47,">>133753703 That's the fundamental fallacy of individualism, that the ego can create values independently. In reality the ego itself is a social structure and you are just embarrasingly unaware of the real situation. Values are created socially, if we want to evolve our values must serve social ends.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500129947 133744358,133754457,2017-07-15 14:47:01,">>133754151 >I'm only saying that we're not really obliged to tolerate people who are ""out for themselves"" and we are not obliged to let them hold resources as property.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500130021 133744358,133754591,2017-07-15 14:48:28,">>133754023 The state is not a people governing themselves. The man with the gun is not an extension of the people when he threatens those people. When people govern themselves justly it is not a state, but property. A nation. Not to be confused with a nation-state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500130108 133744358,133754693,2017-07-15 14:49:28,>tfw you are free,,Anonymous,1499970008864.jpg,oys4/Md5UwqYEKjzMd23zQ==,US,,1500130168 133744358,133754735,2017-07-15 14:49:57,">>133753604 My point is that when people govern themselves it is no longer ""a state"" but rather a nation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500130197 133744358,133754767,2017-07-15 14:50:22,">>133753448 >cherry picking Every society, no matter what the system, will have low-life degenerates such as those in pic related.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500130222 133744358,133754808,2017-07-15 14:50:45,">>133753971 that's probably why Ron Paul did so much for the cause he's held up as a personification of the ideas. putting a face to the ideas helps people rally around them",,Anonymous,,,,,1500130245 133744358,133754916,2017-07-15 14:51:53,">>133754693 >tfw its not my business what happens in Walmart and I don't really give a shit feels pretty good desu",,Anonymous,,,,,1500130313 133744358,133755086,2017-07-15 14:53:30,">>133754457 By people who ""are out for themselves"" I assume you mean egotistical criminals, robbers, theives, rapists and murderers and not people who on their own desire seek to better themselves and their families in a virtuous way. An I right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500130410 133744358,133755138,2017-07-15 14:53:59,">>133753797 >objectivism encapsulates nationalism how?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500130439 133744358,133755255,2017-07-15 14:55:07,">>133754693 >>133753448 >Conflating liberal Democracy with liberty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500130507 133744358,133755264,2017-07-15 14:55:12,">>133754916 but you have to walk down the street and see their fat ugly bodies lumbering around imagine walking down a street where literally everyone is attractive what would it be like? can you even imagine such a thing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500130512 133744358,133755454,2017-07-15 14:56:59,">>133754591 Everyone doesn't have to liken the state with ""the man with the gun"" just because you do. Besides, my father had a gun and while he didn't threaten me he was sometimes strict. We want the kind of leaders that live and die with the people but who will lead and not just go in whatever direction the wind is blowing. People are not equal, and they don't have equal capacity to lead. But they should be tied together so that equality doesn't matter. Muscle cells aren't jealous of brain cells.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500130619 133744358,133755574,2017-07-15 14:58:19,">>133755086 I mean that individual wants and wishes are tolerated as far as they coincide with those of the state and no further.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500130699 133744358,133755594,2017-07-15 14:58:33,">this cringeworthy thread again Why are autismcaps so desperate to fit in?",,Anonymous,1498608268725.jpg,n61oaXdsA4occnglVWFeDg==,,,1500130713 133744358,133755770,2017-07-15 15:00:23,">>133750107 I like Amash. Id much prefer a budget he'd make that funds this then a budget by some establishment cuckservative that doesn't fund this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500130823 133744358,133756115,2017-07-15 15:03:40,">>133755454 What you're describing is not the state. It's natural and non coercive. Your father was acting in hs own interest. And that's a beautiful thing that he put you in his interest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500131020 133744358,133756500,2017-07-15 15:07:47,">>133756115 It's such a meaningless argument >it's natural and non coercive What in this context isn't natural? What does it mean for an organizational scheme to be ""natural""? Why isn't it coercive? When I was a child I didn't always have the option, legal or otherwise, to disobey my parents.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500131267 133744358,133756652,2017-07-15 15:09:22,">>133755138 Nations are an inevitability and their existence unavoidable and since their existence is unavoidable they should be regarded and administered objectively and not subjectively (which spawns globalism). True Nationalism lies in the affirmation of the societies that free men wish to craft and the self interest (isolationist if they choose) objevtive reality demands they live by. What Objectivism denounces is Nationalistic Mysticism, where the collectivism of racial groups, economic classes, or the leftist parts of organized religion is replaced the ""Nation"". Have a quote: >""Once, you believed it was ‘only a compromise’: you conceded it was evil to live for yourself, but moral to live for the sake of your children. Then you conceded that it was selfish to live for your children, but moral to live for your community. Then you conceded that it was selfish to live for your community, but moral to live for your nation. Now, you are letting this greatest of nations be devoured by any scum from any corner of the earth, while you concede that it is selfish to live for your country and that your moral duty is to live for the globe. A man who has no right to life, has no right to values and will not keep them."" Objectivism DOES affirm Nationalism with the only caveat that it always be subordinated to Individualism. Rand termed this as ""to subordinate Might to Right.",,Anonymous,1486906021117.jpg,CDZHHGdekUFfrRv3S2DLVg==,US,,1500131362 133744358,133756727,2017-07-15 15:10:09,">>133754154 Thanks.",,Anonymous,1499988663836.png,z4RpmBmwQpI5EG/2y02Vpg==,US,,1500131409 133744358,133757404,2017-07-15 15:17:47,">>133756500 The state is a product of evil. Nature means from God. Meaning it is a moral right. The kind of coercion used by the state is a moral wrong. Your relationship with your father was one of property rights. You cannot govern yourself at that age and so as you come from him he is your rightful owner. Natural rights and objective morality is the debate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500131867 133744358,133757521,2017-07-15 15:18:51,">>133755594 Plenty of us are Minarchists numbnuts. We treat the AnCap yellow/black as a 'good enough' approximation since presumably anarchism is preferable to statism. An Minarchism>Anarchism argument can proceed from here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500131931 133744358,133757826,2017-07-15 15:22:11,">>133757404 God doesn't care about property rights. You are grasping.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500132131 133744358,133758258,2017-07-15 15:26:47,">>133757826 >God doesn't care about property rights. Says fucking who?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500132407 133744358,133758335,2017-07-15 15:27:39,">>133757826 You think God is a Deity, rather than a force innate to the universe. You're mistaken. As a fascist I would expect you to understand gods laws are not subject to man's whim. That's why we will be free in the end. You don't seem to be a statist. You're just confused about truth and the natural order. You will have your fascism when you learn to be moral.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500132459 133744358,133758599,2017-07-15 15:30:11,">>133744720 Let the free market decide what currencies do what, the best system shall prevail.",,Anonymous,1494970979644.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,,,1500132611 133744358,133758660,2017-07-15 15:30:45,">>133744720 You understand that graph is in relation to fiat? Would be better if you put gold vs house prices to see its stability. That graph could very well indicate volatility of the dollar.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500132645 133744358,133758813,2017-07-15 15:32:20,">>133757826 Why wouldn't god care about the best method to avoid conflicts over scarce resources?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500132740 133744358,133759044,2017-07-15 15:34:48,"What would women look like after a few hundred years of being bought and sold and bred like dogs. Would they develop the same crazy variety dogs have? Or is that impossible with humans?",,Anonymous,1493545528995.jpg,8d14Fu2NhcDwmPgPgW/9Cw==,,,1500132888 133744358,133759061,2017-07-15 15:35:02,">>133753448 Aren't those people enabled by a degenerate-enabling welfare state? Who would want to associate themselves voluntarily with someone who has no self-control? Those people in a libertarian society would be pariahs, condemned to live with their degenerate kin and assume massive costs for their life choices.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500132902 133744358,133759088,2017-07-15 15:35:20,">>133758335 You are the one trying to attach your trademark ideology to God in some sick anthropomorphism. Stop telling me what I think God is, you don't know.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1500132920 133744358,133759142,2017-07-15 15:35:55,">>133758660 its not much better. Trully crypto will win out over physical currency.",,Anonymous,GHRatioB.jpg,OGPyCa4vHsH8bBrgBmCC9Q==,US,,1500132955 133744358,133759217,2017-07-15 15:36:36,">>133759044 There is no real reason why you couldn't create radical alterations to human physiology with eugenics, however the process with humans would be extraordinarily sluggish because we live so much longer than doggos and reproduce at a slower pace.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500132996 133744358,133759370,2017-07-15 15:38:03,">>133759088 I'm not convinced you know yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500133083 133744358,133759417,2017-07-15 15:38:33,">>133759142 unless of course theres a war and someone turns the electricity off, then it vanishes into the ether",,Anonymous,,,,,1500133113 133744358,133759590,2017-07-15 15:40:18,">>133759217 >reproduce at a slower pace there is a lot more flexibility there than you might think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina",,Anonymous,,,,,1500133218 133744358,133759777,2017-07-15 15:42:14,">>133758599 That is the stupidest fucking picture.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500133334 133744358,133760047,2017-07-15 15:45:12,">>133759777 >on /lrg/ >shares an opinion WITHOUT an argument to back it up fuck off",,Anonymous,commies.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1500133512 133744358,133760164,2017-07-15 15:46:26,">>133744569 >taking property rights from plebeian retards Hey, two side of a coin, right dummy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500133586 133744358,133760203,2017-07-15 15:46:49,">>133759142 Post gold standard abandonment, with gold becoming a commodity, will also add speculation to the picture. Prior to it, only wars and disruptive technologies created big fluctuations.",,Anonymous,devezas_pict_17.jpg,DdKB0V/69S3ykZ6zX69DPg==,,,1500133609 133744358,133760649,2017-07-15 15:51:27,">>133760047 I agree it's a stupid picture. If someone believes that freedom will be achieved through increments of public domain has not really thought it through. So far experience tells us that if people begin perceiving that the state (and therefore, the people) have power over something they shouldn't have power over, it leads to more of that, and never less. You might have small periods of prosperity but the sustainability is awful. The only way to achieve real freedom is self determination. Secession, reducing state power, agorism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500133887 133744358,133760808,2017-07-15 15:53:19,">>133744569 when you can't compete in real life with freedom you gotta make some idiotic rules i guess, commie cuck",,D-M-T,,,,,1500133999 133744358,133760928,2017-07-15 15:54:29,">>133760649 Now that's an opinion I can get behind. I just posted the picture to shitpost.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500134069 133744358,133761146,2017-07-15 15:56:41,">>133759417 >and someone turns the electricity off most of our money is already not physical, not mention debts and contracts and what not. >>133760203 Your saying there was no speculation before abandonment? not trying to argue legitimately asking",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500134201 133744358,133761274,2017-07-15 15:57:53,Hail /lrg/. Later my brothers.,,Anonymous,Eagle.png,yrHf5uXPnkPP+29fTZTlxA==,US,,1500134273 133744358,133761318,2017-07-15 15:58:15,can someone post the picture of the populist libertairan party platform from last thread,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500134295 133744358,133761715,2017-07-15 16:01:37,">>133759590 Sure but putting all of the moral and ethical objections that I would have to such a thing aside, your rate of complication and death would probably be sky high. Humans are not evolved to reproduce like that normally, and regular practice Csection birthing will have detrimental effects in the long run. Some indication already that more women are cropping up with hips too thin to give birth naturally. Reliance on technology for successful reproduction is a severe deficiency.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500134497 133744358,133762722,2017-07-15 16:11:14,"And can you tell me how, without a centralized authority your NAP and property rights will be useless because there isn't a state to maintain your firearms and your private property? And can you also explain how you would maintain higher technology and modern appliances without going back to primitivism, which, funnily enough, might lead to localized Communist/Communalist endeavors?",,Anonymous,IMG_0621.jpg,ZUbU/FVQxmzKXt+HUJ4KVw==,,,1500135074 133744358,133764903,2017-07-15 16:33:18,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500136398 133744358,133765948,2017-07-15 16:44:28,">The Egalitarian Menace | Lew Rockwell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rPFmCD---Y",,Anonymous,Lewposting.jpg,uddMsf/u7NcLyyLphf3F5g==,,,1500137068 133744358,133766407,2017-07-15 16:49:17,">>133765948 lew is pretty based deserves more exposure imo, as a speaker",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500137357 133744358,133767335,2017-07-15 16:59:02,">>133766407 he's the perfect link between Rothbard and Hoppe.",,Anonymous,1490036706888.jpg,lHNKaB9i3JrmzW/D15Cq6g==,,,1500137942 133907362,133907362,2017-07-16 21:33:09,,Libertarian Right General /LRG/,Anonymous,hoppe hat.jpg,fWM8SeS2F0O56M5Oj6qjnw==,US,,1500240789 133907362,133907523,2017-07-16 21:35:12,"NEW RAND HEALTHCARE INTERVIEW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8wxy89_zGc",,Anonymous,rand in 2031.png,ASl4RGJgNMyC7QcIOXcsrQ==,US,,1500240912 133907362,133909223,2017-07-16 21:55:19,">>133907362 praise sultan hoppe",,Anonymous,king Hoppe.png,WgtOR9jRb4blFTmClJrmmQ==,PT,,1500242119 133989508,133989508,2017-07-17 16:15:36,"""One finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom"" This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_pixel.png,xP6KIZfw7GvOFt8sUL00Lg==,GB,,1500308136 133989508,133989780,2017-07-17 16:18:12,P*leo plebs.,,Anonymous,,,,,1500308292 133989508,133989999,2017-07-17 16:20:38,">>133989508 Individualism is for the birds. We want to be peoples.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500308438 133989508,133990105,2017-07-17 16:21:41,">>133989999 Nice trips though, but your post seems to be missing something else...",,Anonymous,file.png,phcGFO4SkOIh/JPz27jiWQ==,GB,,1500308501 133989508,133990349,2017-07-17 16:24:06,">>133989508 bump",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1500308646 133989508,133990626,2017-07-17 16:27:07,What should i read before i get into Democracy the God that Failed?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500308827 133989508,133991178,2017-07-17 16:32:33,">>133989508 required doctrinal readong for all /lrg/ https://youtu.be/wq0-J_IMANY",,Anonymous,,,,,1500309153 133989508,133991306,2017-07-17 16:33:53,">>133990626 No need to read anything before it really, you can understanding everything in it standing alone. Not to say you can't read something before it, but there would be no need to. For a New Liberty by Rothbard is pretty good.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500309233 133989508,133991457,2017-07-17 16:35:31,">>133989508 Bump Btw annons someone redpill me on this: n the event of space travel, colonization, and human endeavors into our solar system and beyond it will be a leftist world that dominates the political sphere from there on out. Prove me wrong seriously. Everytime i think of what a political world would be in a space faring age i think of leftist and expanded lgbtqtip universe where it never ends. Anything resembling so much as a viewpoint leaning right would be squashed. Honestly i just can't see a future in a space world with anything even right centrist leaning; does anyone have something to prove me wrong i want to be wrong i really do but every time i think of it all i see is a thousand years of darkness in leftist hell hole universe :*(",,Anonymous,Mars.jpg,snmXo9PbFm44GdLsBcWz7g==,US,,1500309331 133989508,133991636,2017-07-17 16:37:05,">>133991457 Why the hell would it be?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500309425 133989508,133991775,2017-07-17 16:38:29,"Clippity cloppity, get off my property !",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500309509 133989508,133991825,2017-07-17 16:38:56,">>133991457 uhh... you never proved in the first place that society will be leftist in the future. I'm guessing all you're going off of is the fact that Star Trek has a commie one world government. man this thread is cringey",,Anonymous,,,,,1500309536 133989508,133992127,2017-07-17 16:41:58,">>133991636 We'd think of space where it would be bringing in more diversity. At first it would probably be based on merits which seems fine at first. But then how would this not in the years to come just be an excuse for muh diversity? One thing i will say in the event of early human exploration, there would ironically be more economic freedom and doing in space faring action i'd assume than on planet earth. But why do i in the long term only see lefties benefiting from the hard work of real libertarians in the future only to turn it into some sjw future. Again this is all just theory for the long run but why do i just see it as that? But in the early run of things it would be great no doubt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500309718 133989508,133992241,2017-07-17 16:42:59,">>133991178 It's more recommended than required; it's not like we can stop you posting here if you haven't read them anyway. Anyway, >Machinery of freedom Literally a 20 minute video, of a book everyone should read anyway >Anatomy of the State Also incredibly short and a great introduction to critique of the state >Democracy: the God that Failed This book is just quality.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500309779 133989508,133992285,2017-07-17 16:43:27,">>133991825 Then what do you think the political world would be in the future? Do you picture any right leaning political figures in a space faring age?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500309807 133989508,133992288,2017-07-17 16:43:30,">>133992127 I don't understand any of this. Do you have any proof at all why it would end like that?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500309810 133989508,133992518,2017-07-17 16:45:32,">>133992288 Again its not proof its just speculation, and theorizing. But im just wondering what you guys think it would be like in a space faring future ?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500309932 133989508,133993882,2017-07-17 16:59:23,"I've been thinking a lot recently about the effect culture has on politics. Which countries have the most liberal, individualist, libertarian culture? Which countries have the most socialist, collectivist, authoritarian culture?",,Anonymous,14906853095971949784239.jpg,1Z42q76mZYSucMP2XUdCrA==,GB,,1500310763 133989508,133994160,2017-07-17 17:01:52,Why do you guys support legal nonwhite immigration,,Anonymous,ancaps.png,2a07JRmRmguEDnz8+2XErg==,US,,1500310912 133989508,133994216,2017-07-17 17:02:29,"B U M P U M P",,Anonymous,ancab.png,pBj7rYnsp9F9F3jkvQZo/g==,,,1500310949 133989508,133994558,2017-07-17 17:05:44,">>133993882 Murica, Singapore, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Ausfalia, NZ Vs. China, India, Japan, scandis, Malaysia, Philippines",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500311144 133989508,133994860,2017-07-17 17:08:18,">>133994558 >Singapore explain",,Anonymous,,,,,1500311298 133989508,133994929,2017-07-17 17:08:57,"4K ANCAP SMILEY: https://www.mediafire.com/?d1bcxcjspaikpqg",,Anonymous,Full HD XD.png,fzqYdYekUpQNWgKfDTFbdg==,,,1500311337 133989508,133994952,2017-07-17 17:09:06,"HICKORY DICKORY DENTS, WHAT IF THE CHILD CONSTENTS?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500311346 133989508,133995023,2017-07-17 17:09:53,">>133994558 >Aus and NZ libertarian Huh? Don't they have a reputation for the opposite?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500311393 133989508,133995054,2017-07-17 17:10:10,Whomst ancapistan?,,Anonymous,ezgif-1-fa1d9633c9.gif,gsteomAPoCgwJHfHmaxMyQ==,,,1500311410 133989508,133995447,2017-07-17 17:14:08,">>133995023 nope",,Anonymous,EFI.png,VJi+ph0j0NNhuFTc6IflWQ==,,,1500311648 133989508,133995571,2017-07-17 17:15:21,">>133995447 Interesting, although I didn't just mean in economic terms. Culturally, and almost historically.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500311721 133989508,133995668,2017-07-17 17:16:22,">>133995571 Economic policy reflects the culture",,Anonymous,,,,,1500311782 133989508,133997283,2017-07-17 17:33:28,">>133992518 >Mars is colonized by private companies (SpaceX) >Profit margins too thin for muh diversity colonists, only those who pay can go >This means whites and high quality asians and Indians, generally high-IQ, low time preference, K-selected people >Mars is the first utopia in the history of man >There is always work to be done, everyone is productive, fulfilled and happy >de facto anarcho capitalism rules >leftist fucks demand diversity quotas >Pay for dindus and LGBTBBQWTF whalekin to be shipped to Mars >Once there they don't have the skills to support themselves >Leftists demand creation of Martian welfare state >Most real Martians refuse to pay their taxes as before they had been completely free >Leftists reveal their true colors and declare war on Mars >Hellno.wmv >Very short interplanetary war ensues >Earth authority agents and bureaucrats all shot >Earth tries to send ships but they get btfo by simple improvised mass driver weapons >Earth gives up >Martian Declaration of Independence and Constitution >Absolute property rights decreed >""State"" consists of 3 guys in a Supreme Court who have ultimate authority in deciding conflicts related to implementation of said property rights; they cannot levy taxes or create any new legislation >Enforcement of constitutional rights carried out by private security organizations >Conflict between security orgs impossible due to all recognizing one ultimate arbitrator (the Supreme Court) >Statism impossible due to the state not being able to do anything except interpret a document >perfect_system.png >Mars watches from the comfort of ever improving technology as Earth descends into South Africa-tier nigger hellhole",,Anonymous,mcgas.jpg,FlGH7rsOKeQ3ca0651rVyg==,,,1500312808 133989508,133997589,2017-07-17 17:36:27,">>133994160 immigration as such has no meaning in a stateless society. We certainly do not support 'immigration' of undesirables onto our private property, though, and will meet it with nuclear hellfire. If you wanted, you could form a voluntary association with like-minded property owners to keep certain people out of a certain area, limited only by the bounds of your properties.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500312987 133989508,133998268,2017-07-17 17:43:16,">>133989508 Also recommend reading Nietzsche - greatest redpilled Libertarian thinker of all time, before anyone even realized his thinking was called Libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500313396 133989508,133998391,2017-07-17 17:44:34,">>133998268 >Also recommend reading Nietzsche - greatest redpilled Libertarian thinker of all time, before anyone even realized his thinking was called Libertarian. Ayn Rand is simply Nietzsche Lite, but somehow she's the most popular and most-compared to Libertarian",,Anonymous,,,,,1500313474 133989508,133998526,2017-07-17 17:45:46,">>133989508 Any other fellow Libertarians here who voted Trump this year?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500313546 133989508,133998846,2017-07-17 17:48:59,,,Anonymous,KM.png,zFkVyChOJXSXLMLa7pCAtA==,,,1500313739 133989508,133999200,2017-07-17 17:52:26,">>133998391 >Ayn Rand is Nietzsche lite wew lad, what a brainlet Yes, there is a connection, especially in the early/immature Ayn Rand. But on metaphysical and epistemological essentials they can't really be compared (Nietzsche never really reached a satisfactory answer to these questions, and Rand went with Aristotelianism and added some interesting epistemological stuff in pic related). As for ethics, well, they're incompatible in almost every respect except individualism. Nietzsche advocates individualism based on will - just will as a self-suficient primary that needs no explanation (what Rand would call whim). Rand claims to have discovered a rational ethics, based solely on reason rather than feelings. Feelings are irrelevant to Objectivist ethics, whereas they form the foundation of Nietzsche's.",,Anonymous,"Introduction_to_Objectivist_Epistemology,_1979_edition.jpg",zB57L8/8gGH/1ZvoXMbhxw==,,,1500313946 133989508,133999665,2017-07-17 17:57:03,Bump,,Anonymous,Rothbard.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1500314223 134443550,134443550,2017-07-21 13:04:39,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - A PRIORI TRUTH,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,,,1500642279 134443550,134443657,2017-07-21 13:05:42,"THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",,Anonymous,Reading.jpg,7HU8QWOp/+CHcPyJHni3Jw==,,,1500642342 134443550,134443662,2017-07-21 13:05:46,">>134443550 arise, my brothers",,Anonymous,IMG_2839.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1500642346 134443550,134443855,2017-07-21 13:07:50,"Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.",,Anonymous,jews.png,al+7MIsDMwLL/s3dnc9UYQ==,,,1500642470 134443550,134443986,2017-07-21 13:09:11,ALL socialism is about dominating and subjugating the people. which brings me to my next point...,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1500642551 134443550,134444110,2017-07-21 13:10:29,Communists are aggressors by their own claim. Eliminating them is in defense of property and non-aggression.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1500642629 134443550,134444281,2017-07-21 13:11:55,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1500642715 134443550,134444388,2017-07-21 13:13:00,"The state corrupts and degenerates the people. Traditionalism comes from the family, not the state.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1500642780 134443550,134444539,2017-07-21 13:14:23,Paleo-Libertarians must adopt a strategy of right wing populism to affect change in our current political climate.,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1500642863 134443550,134444640,2017-07-21 13:15:14,"Physically remove left-""libertarian"" subversives!",,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1500642914 134443550,134444815,2017-07-21 13:16:52,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1500643012 134443550,134444985,2017-07-21 13:18:22,">BIG-GOVERNMENT LIBERTARIANS https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1500643102 134443550,134445408,2017-07-21 13:22:10,"Post yfw when >I'm Elon Musk, and I'm here to ask you a question. >Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? MARS IS A HARSH MISTRESS GALT'S GULCH ON MARS BY 2070 PACK YOUR BAGS, SELL YOUR (((FIAT))) CURRENCY FOR MARTIAN PHOSPHORUS-STANDARD MUSKBUX WATCH THE LIGHTS GOING OUT ON EARTH FROM THE COMFORT OF YOUR MARTIAN WATER MINING HOMESTEAD",,Anonymous,valles marineris.jpg,o9bQnx4nZDM3nElQ6Z0MIQ==,,,1500643330 134443550,134445581,2017-07-21 13:23:40,"A society where a population threatens to ""seize the means of production"" starts riots, and destroys property is NOT a libertarian society. They must be removed.",,Anonymous,ad232103153protesters-burn.jpg,yL1qw3koHy3lpzfz0QPPhw==,,,1500643420 134443550,134445894,2017-07-21 13:26:29,">>134445408 >mfw we leave to colonize mars and socialists have no one to suck success from and so they decend into chaos and civil war destroying the earth effectivly turning it into nu-mars.",,Anonymous,dude.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,,,1500643589 134443550,134446078,2017-07-21 13:28:20,He did nothing wrong!,,Anonymous,1495329401160s.jpg,yF87/TEdaef+Zv+cc2ckCw==,,,1500643700 134443550,134446291,2017-07-21 13:30:19,,,Anonymous,snek (2).png,HSRhqXOosdCV80w46sJgZQ==,,,1500643819 134443550,134446344,2017-07-21 13:30:55,"In your heart, you know he did nothing wrong.",,Anonymous,Eagle_Gold.png,mtftg6jDTV6mvVFdGlZc7w==,,,1500643855 134443550,134447083,2017-07-21 13:38:29,">>134445894 >There were not many lights on the earth below. The countryside was an empty black sheet, with a few occasional flickers in the windows of some government structures, and the trembling glow of candles in the windows of thriftless homes. Most of the rural population had long since been reduced to the life of those ages when artificial light was an exorbitant luxury, and a sunset put an end to human activity. The towns were like scattered puddles, left behind by a receding tide, still holding some precious drops of electricity, but drying out in a desert of rations, quotas, controls and power-conservation rules. >But when the place that had once been the source of the tide—New York City—rose in the distance before them, it was still extending its lights to the sky, still defying the primordial darkness, almost as if, in an ultimate effort, in a final appeal for help, it were now stretching its arms to the plane that was crossing its sky. Involuntarily, they sat up, as if at respectful attention at the deathbed of what had been greatness. Looking down, they could see the last convulsions: the lights of the cars were darting through the streets, like animals trapped in a maze, frantically seeking an exit, the bridges were jammed with cars, the approaches to the bridges were veins of massed headlights, glittering bottlenecks stopping all motion, and the desperate screaming of sirens reached faintly to the height of the plane. The news of the continent's severed artery had now engulfed the city, men were deserting their posts, trying, in panic, to abandon New York, seeking escape where all roads were cut off and escape was no longer possible. >The plane was above the peaks of the skyscrapers when suddenly, with the abruptness of a shudder, as if the ground had parted to engulf it, the city disappeared from the face of the earth. It took them a moment to realize that the panic had reached the power stations—and that the lights of New York had gone out.",,Anonymous,aynrand.jpg,xnh5dSvIa+iQULJkw4JRxw==,,,1500644309 134443550,134447153,2017-07-21 13:39:09,">>134447083 Imagine this but for the whole earth, viewed from a spaceship. Chills man. Now I want a sci-fi version of Atlas Shrugged",,Anonymous,,,,,1500644349 134443550,134447394,2017-07-21 13:41:42,">>134446344 He literally did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,,,,,1500644502 134443550,134447401,2017-07-21 13:41:48,Hail /lrg/ best thread. It's been a while.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500644508 134443550,134447870,2017-07-21 13:46:48,">>134447153 I have yet to read anything by her, fiction usually bums me out. Is Atlas the best read?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500644808 134443550,134448782,2017-07-21 13:56:20,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500645380 134443550,134449251,2017-07-21 14:01:23,">>134447870 If you get easily burned out by fiction, AS is definitely not where to start with Rand. It's a 1200 page behemoth designed to totally turn your worldview inside out. Once I picked it up I didn't put it down until I'd gone through it twice, 2 weeks later. You might want to do that if you're instantly drawn into it, like I was, but if you'd like to take Rand more slowly, the reading order I'd recommend is >The Fountainhead >The Virtue of Selfishness/For the New Intellectual/Philosophy: Who Needs It (these are nonfiction philosophical works, to explain her philosophy in clear, definite terms and prove its validity) >Atlas Shrugged for the finale. >Also The Romantic Manifesto, Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal (all nonfiction), if you become interested in Rand's philosophy. I can't recommend Ayn Rand enough, she really was a unique mind and will help you SORT YOURSELF OUT with the moral force of 1000 Jordan Petersons. Reading Rand is like entering a different world, for those who resonate with her. You'll find that if you agree with her you won't see anything or anyone the same again. It's like taking the redpill a second time. (That's why she's often called a 'cult', despite Objectivists having next to no similarities with actual cult members - we are highly individualistic, critical, etc. Objectivism disagrees with literally everything else on the intellectual marketplace and refuses to compromise an inch on anything.)",,Anonymous,4k ancap.png,fzqYdYekUpQNWgKfDTFbdg==,,,1500645683 134443550,134449334,2017-07-21 14:02:22,"Can someone edit Awaken My Masters but replace their heads with Hoppe, von Mises and Friedman? I don't have photoshop else I would",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500645742 134443550,134449656,2017-07-21 14:05:45,">>134449334 I've got the skills, but I don't know what you're talking about. If you gotta image pls post it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500645945 134443550,134449718,2017-07-21 14:06:15,">>134449251 Thanks, I'll have to pick up the fountainhead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500645975 134443550,134449745,2017-07-21 14:06:23,">>134447870 If you want to know about her philosophy read The Virtue of Selfishness. It's all you need to read. Atlas is her most famous work, but you will be reading more than a thousand pages and going nowhere. If you like the story that's great, but her ethics aren't as easy to catch.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500645983 134443550,134450405,2017-07-21 14:13:07,">>134449745 Technically true, but The Virtue of Selfishness is only a condensation in abstract terms. It's like saying that all you need to do to 'get' Christianity is read the Wikipedia page. You'd understand the essentials, in abstract terms, but you'd have only a foggy idea as to what they would mean for real life and for your life in particular. That's the purpose of Atlas Shrugged and fiction in general - to project an image of abstract ideas as they work in practice, as a sort of prototype or engineer's model to illustrate and concretize the abstract principles of engineering. It's all very well to say, for example, that integrity and purpose are the highest virtues in a man, but to really understand what that means you have to imagine a Howard Roark or a John Galt.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500646387 134443550,134451180,2017-07-21 14:20:45,">>134450405 Yeah, I've read about the philosophy. I understand the basic bitch version. I guess fountainhead is the one I'll do. I have yet to see how objectivism isn't crypto AnCapism, even though she claims not to be an anarchist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500646845 134443550,134451724,2017-07-21 14:26:09,">>134450405 Well, I guess that's true too, it is not the same to understand something intellectually than to pick it up in a subliminal-emotional manner. I am biased because I dislike most of fiction and to me it feels like beating around the bush, but I recognize that what theory you have in your mind isn't that much important, it's the willingness to act correctly. But have in mind in this specific case we're talking about a thousand and a hundred pages of Atlas Shrugged versus barely two hundred pages of VoS. And in these two hundred you have lots of practical examples that do the same trick as reading the fiction. I believe if people recommended Virtue of Selfishness over Atlas Shrugged there would be more people more knowledgeable of the specifics of her ethics, not just a general sense of them.",,Anonymous,ayn rand butchers.jpg,/FpyLXwwW0oGV26qaicwyA==,,,1500647169 134443550,134451940,2017-07-21 14:28:13,,,Anonymous,1500635435940.jpg,X6VuVikBzzZGkt5qHDU18w==,,,1500647293 134443550,134452615,2017-07-21 14:35:15,">>134446344 One hundred and sixty eight to one. Not even the Barça could score this high.",,Anonymous,serveimage.jpg,fTDKDTVE1Z1v/lhYbyqCnw==,ES,,1500647715 134443550,134452698,2017-07-21 14:35:55,">>134451940 Yeah Linkin Park sucks anyway. Hybrid theory was a good meme tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500647755 134443550,134453621,2017-07-21 14:44:58,You should bump this shit like they do in the future.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500648298 134443550,134455718,2017-07-21 15:05:56,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500649556 134443550,134456131,2017-07-21 15:10:10,,,Anonymous,rothbard_race_realism.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,GB,,1500649810 134443550,134456869,2017-07-21 15:17:56,"I have finally accepted that taxation is theft. Also, what ideology would this be called? I hate the government, but I also hate degeneracy...",,Anonymous,chart (1).png,rpLWZ7RiQliBj4KWMpMxAg==,CA,,1500650276 134443550,134457237,2017-07-21 15:21:43,"Left-Libertarianism is superior. You can't have liberty while you still have unjust hierarchies, and Capitalism IS an unjust hierarchy. Why should one human rule over another's life and ability to eat simply because he starts a business or was born into the right family or had the right genetics? You Right-wingers are all the same. You all love licking boots, even the so-called 'Libertarians' amongst you",,Anonymous,Anarcho-Syndicalism.jpg,Yjw3Z9EeyREa9EsWeiEqug==,,,1500650503 134443550,134458198,2017-07-21 15:31:34,">>134457237 There's nothing unjust about it. Human beings and the nature which surrounds us are heterogeneous, that's an immutable fact. Hierarchy is inevitable just based on the differences in ability and preferences. Furthermore there's no ""rulership"" involved. All transactions are voluntary on the market. Those who work elect to do so, and if you can find a better lot somewhere else you're free to do so. There's no ""boot-licking"" involved, so quit being so dramatic. It's literally based on the single solitary premise of self-ownership. I don't know how you commie bastards construe it as domination or whatever. You point to hierarchy like it's some devilish concoction while there is not a single facet of nature without its presence. Face the fact that trying to rid society of hierarchy is not only futile, but undesirable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500651094 134443550,134458317,2017-07-21 15:32:43,">>134456869 Hoppean AnCap/Paleolibertarianism is the way for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500651163 134443550,134458541,2017-07-21 15:35:06,">>134456869 The next step for you is to accept that it is the welfare state and the states propaganda in general that is responsible for the spread of moral degeneration. See >>134444388",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500651306 134443550,134458915,2017-07-21 15:38:36,">>134458198 As Noam Chomsky said ""The notion that a contract between a master and his starving subject is voluntary is laughable"" Capitalism isn't voluntary. It is necessary in order to survive. The choice is either work or die. And again, it's an unjust hierarchy. What right does the Capitalist have to steal the surplus value that *I* have created through my own labour? Anarchists aren't opposed to all hierarchies; just unjust ones. And you 'Anarcho-Capitalists' are a fucking joke too. All you're doing is replacing the dicking the State gives you with the dicking a Corporation gives you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500651516 134443550,134459600,2017-07-21 15:45:43,">>134458915 >Work or die If I have to pick berries and hunt to feed myself I must be enslaved to nature. It's kinda like how gravity oppresses your freedom to float around. Grow up, get a job. Get a haircut and pull up your god damn pants.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500651943 134443550,134460035,2017-07-21 15:50:34,">>134443550 bumb",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1500652234 134443550,134460321,2017-07-21 15:53:42,">>134459600 Work for Capitalists or die, yes. Change 'Capitalist' to 'King' and you'll see how oppressive the relationship truly is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500652422 134443550,134460568,2017-07-21 15:56:22,">>134458915 >As Chomsky said Lol People have to work. It's in the nature of every organism. If a man signs on with a boss, it's because he's deemed it more beneficial to be employed than to work alone (or with anyone else, for that matter). It's that simple. If it were more beneficial to fuck off innawoods then you're free to do that too. Hell, you could make a commune if you'd like, so long as it's done by voluntary contract. >Labor theory of value You can fuck right off with that shit. The logical flaws have been so elucidated to the point that the majority of modern Marxists don't even ascribe to it anymore. Shows how much you know.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500652582 134443550,134460690,2017-07-21 15:57:46,">>134460321 Grow food, live innawoods. Or you know, start a business.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500652666 134443550,134460743,2017-07-21 15:58:15,">>134460321 What a stupid dichotomy. The same struggle is faced by man in nature. >>134459600 This anon put it well enough. I'm sure Chompy would bitch and moan about nature's oppression, too. Wake up, friend. Look at reality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500652695 134443550,134461251,2017-07-21 16:03:26,">>134460035 But who will build the loos?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500653006 134443550,134461565,2017-07-21 16:06:56,">>134460568 You don't even have to subscribe to the LTV to understand surplus value. When does a worker ever get paid as much as the value of what he produces to the employer? The difference between actual value created and wages is what's called 'profit' in a parasitic relationship such as the Capitalist-worker one. As for working, sure. But why does it have to be top-down? Why exactly can't the workers themselves own the means of production? Not only that, but we could produce so much food for so many more people if not for profiteers withholding the food for money. We have the technology; hell, even in MARX's time we had the technology! So much fucking food is thrown out by supermarkets because it wasn't bought, when there are individuals and families starving in the streets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500653216 134443550,134461680,2017-07-21 16:08:23,">>134460743 The difference is that nature is not man. Man willingly makes such actions. He willingly chooses to oppress his fellow man",,Anonymous,,,,,1500653303 134443550,134462346,2017-07-21 16:16:00,">>134461565 The worker gets paid *today* for what the capitalist makes a return on *tomorrow* (theoretically speaking) The point being that time has value. Something immediate is more valued than something in the future. Hence the profit of the capitalist. Also I'd like to point out that all of these conditions are voluntarily agreed upon by all parties involved :^) >why does it have to be top-down? Why exactly can't the workers themselves own the means of production? I don't give a shit. If they want to they can. I don't think it'll work very well in terms of efficiency or decision-making, which might explain why such a structure is so rare, but you're free to give it a shot (especially under an ancap system) >>134461680 >Nature demands labor >Cooperative/Divided labor is more productive than individual labor >People decide to work together, with organizers and laborers What exactly is oppressive about this? Again, nobody has to do it. People willingly decide to participate. The benefits of the system should be fairly obvious, Workers benefit enormously from such a system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500653760 134443550,134463719,2017-07-21 16:30:46,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500654646 134443550,134465181,2017-07-21 16:46:29,What it do senpaitachi.,,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,SK,,1500655589 134443550,134465195,2017-07-21 16:46:36,"Keep this shit bumped for a bit longer, I will be able to revive this thing in a few.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500655596 134443550,134465245,2017-07-21 16:47:07,">>134465181 Oh shit, it's motherfuckin Slovakia!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500655627 134443550,134465394,2017-07-21 16:48:43,"How do libertarians rectify issues with race? Is it property rights? Blacks and hispanics aren't going to morph into free-market capitalists because of ideology. They support their race and will use the government as a tool to exploit all others",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500655723 134443550,134465444,2017-07-21 16:49:17,">>134443550 Why is there literally no Gadsden flags here besides my own?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500655757 134443550,134465836,2017-07-21 16:53:30,">>134443855 >We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. This is why you are my greatest ally /lrg/",,Anonymous,snake-menefrego.jpg,2S90fYmJ+5xd4w+1umxaIw==,,,1500656010 134443550,134465886,2017-07-21 16:53:57,">>134456869 National Capitalist, NRx on top of that if you agree with Hoppe's views on democracy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1500656037 134443550,134465922,2017-07-21 16:54:19,">>134465394 I personally see closing the borders and deporting the spics as a good way to eliminate Democrat voters who will no doubt implement socialism. If we're talking AnCap, there are no race problems. You won't be forced to share a government with blacks anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500656059 134443550,134466000,2017-07-21 16:55:04,">>134465836 Much love my fashy friend.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500656104 134443550,134466492,2017-07-21 16:59:36,">>134466000 >>134465836 >>134465181 >''libertarians are just fascists in disguise'' >yeah and? >mfw their heads explode",,Anonymous,chilongqua.jpg,vSx/d5PoeMLcWPpCzuWzKQ==,US,,1500656376 134443550,134466502,2017-07-21 16:59:41,>>134466000,,Anonymous,1370027758505.png,5LnOvy8BXy4X5g03D0QLNg==,,,1500656381 134443550,134466867,2017-07-21 17:03:19,">>134465394 Freedom of association is a more powerful segregation enforcer than any government policy that has ever existed. Americans after 1965 don't know how a free society is suposed to work anymore. The refusal of associate with someone, the right to discrimination, once restored will naturally lead to a society in which ethnic groups help those of their kin more often than they will those of other ethnicities. The reason why so many minorities are so uppity in America is because of policies like Affirmative action, Welfare programs directed to them and many other policies that enable them to parasitize the most productive ethnicities. The most likely outcome of a libertarian (minarchist / private law) society is voluntary racial segregation. Without government to protect people from the consequences of their actions, with no wealth redistribuing programs people are more likely than ever to stick to their own. You may argue that most progressives and pro-multi-kulti people would still be willing to stick with minorities but the truth is most of people defending that kind of policies are sheltered middle-to-upper class that know nothing about the real world and how these minorities actually behave. They'd suffer the full consequences of their actions if they ever did that and most likely change their minds. The cause of moral degeneration in society is bad incentives caused by the welfare state. People are not degenerated by nature, they are only when they can get away with it. ie: with no welfare there wouldn't be niglet single moms, or single mom epidemic at all",,Anonymous,,,,,1500656599 134443550,134467315,2017-07-21 17:07:49,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500656869 134443550,134467647,2017-07-21 17:10:38,">>134466867 How do you get ""right"" socialist to accept that this is the best way, when you care about civilization and your nation. They still keep telling the same shit about free markets = multiculturalism any tactics to get them to accept capitalism or should we just send them to the camps?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500657038 134443550,134467896,2017-07-21 17:12:56,">>134467315 >libertarian society will only come about with an extreme event. I mostly agree with that, we're not talking about voting away the states tyranny. civil war is one answer, or succession, the reasonable option everyone forgets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500657176 134443550,134468399,2017-07-21 17:17:40,">>134467647 every once and a while I head over to /nsg/ to bounce some ideas off them. I've had some success in exploring libertarian ideas. I might be able to find my proposal i made to them. one sec mate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500657460 134443550,134468536,2017-07-21 17:19:03,"'Anarcho'-capitalism is a regurgitation of feudalism and has nothing to do with the anarchist movement. Here are some materials to introduce you to anarchism and debunk 'anarcho'-capitalism claims to be part of the movement. >Introduction to Anarchism https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf >The Anarchist FAQ http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA >Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism? http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF >'Anarcho'-Capitalism is impossible. https://c4ss.org/content/4043 >What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen >The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread >Markets not capitalism http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf",,Anonymous,1387235738389.jpg,yQzKtNYq8O3jZlZitErT4A==,,,1500657543 134443550,134468561,2017-07-21 17:19:14,">>134443550 This is a great thread for discussing things with people who do not understand basic economics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500657554 134443550,134468916,2017-07-21 17:22:46,>>134468536,,Anonymous,fuyukaidesu.jpg,7L+cwCFFDcn6fZzi0vfB2w==,,,1500657766 134443550,134468926,2017-07-21 17:22:53,">>134467647 >>134467315 Libertarianism is not anti identitarian. Not enforcing something with a govermnent does not equal to combatting it. If anything leaving identity matters to the individual will make discrimination far more effective than if it was left to the government, and also more legitimate. Realistic libertarians don't expect to government, out of the magic of democracy, to start enforcing property rights properly, or to start privatizing en masse everything it has unjustly taken control of. Developed nation states in the modern era are largely bankrupt because new technologies enable the individual to escape government control by finding alternatives to government services, evading taxation and many other ways (look up agorism). Most of these states will eventually collapse and fragment in smaller sovereignties that will be more easily controlled in an ethnic basis. Eventually these sovereignties, due to the incentives of the information age and technology, will fragment so much that will become irrelevant and might even be replaced by city-states, or, as in the ancap model, private cities or communities with their own law enforcement forces. It's not that we have to get the state to do X in order of our ideas to work, it's that, eventually, whatever the state tries to do will become irrelevant. A good example of what private societies would be like is Atlantic Station. Of course it's not 100% but it's the most approximated thing there is: https://fee.org/articles/how-policing-works-in-a-privatized-city/",,Anonymous,hoppe democracy welfare states.jpg,n144P/e7+z1LgnJdc79MXA==,,,1500657773 134443550,134469710,2017-07-21 17:31:09,">>134467647 heres my chat with them if you feel like reading, I pretty much chat with one guy about how in order to create white socialism you must be economically and socially free from our current zog. it gets a bit deeper than that but here it is.",,Anonymous,1.png,hBwOnBGIjQ0fa5sXeQd0kA==,,,1500658269 134443550,134469731,2017-07-21 17:31:18,,,Anonymous,2.png,t0eTh7a8gMLlQHepAWMF6Q==,,,1500658278 134443550,134469761,2017-07-21 17:31:32,,,Anonymous,3.png,diJRi0UqvnbnWTUsQp3LxQ==,,,1500658292 134443550,134469781,2017-07-21 17:31:41,,,Anonymous,4.png,2vNOnd81NLK/kaAptKVx5w==,,,1500658301 134443550,134469903,2017-07-21 17:32:47,">>134468926 That things I always bring up when discussing with them, but still they just respond with this will lead to gated communities (without even explaining why this should be a bad thing) and that the left are just the footsoldiers of the capital, you know the common stuff. I found it easier even Irl to find a common ground with libertarians and classical liberals than with patriots, since I went full free market. And when you mention: >the individual to escape government control by finding alternatives to government services, evading taxation.... they say that this is horrible and we need more gov power to prevent this, while saying at the same time our government betrayed us, when they opened the borders.",,Anonymous,lena4.jpg,6R4OD9JD0gDYrlFYIHJ6Gw==,,,1500658367 134443550,134470262,2017-07-21 17:36:30,">>134468536 Yeah whatever, get in the airborne oven.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1500658590 134443550,134470387,2017-07-21 17:37:48,">>134469710 thanks",,Anonymous,,,,,1500658668 134443550,134470398,2017-07-21 17:37:54,">>134469903 >gated communities as a bad thing What? Wasn't Nazi Germany a giant gated community? You gotta know what kind of idiot you're talking to, theres a couple of reasonable NatSocs in /nsg/ you can talk to but a whole bunch of them are completely ignorant of the NatSoc ideology. if you're talking to a retard dont bother. catch the attention of one or two well read nazis and show them why the current state prevents their utopia from existing",,Anonymous,,,,,1500658674 134443550,134470408,2017-07-21 17:37:59,">>134470262 Stay mad classcuck.",,Anonymous,12312314324.png,t3R+1XCDkbNvG4QsfJNS/Q==,,,1500658679 134443550,134470544,2017-07-21 17:39:19,">>134470408 low energy.",,Anonymous,"ra,fitted_scoop,x2000,fafafa-ca443f4786,front-c,285,143,750,1000-bg,f8f8f8.lite-4u8.jpg",PeDSrwRgp/qWMBlhRm3PXQ==,,,1500658759 134443550,134470633,2017-07-21 17:40:20,">>134470408 So are Russians the good or the bad guys? pls commies have some coherence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500658820 134443550,134471444,2017-07-21 17:48:46,">>134468926 I get your point with agorism. Over 50% of cigarettes sold in NY are illegally sold cigarettes from other states (to avoid the high taxes) >>134470408 The soviet union collapsed because it could not outspend the US. Even if you got your communistic utopia, it will always be underarmed than a capitalistic society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500659326 134443550,134471587,2017-07-21 17:50:17,">>134470398 I meant people in real life I know, patriots but cucked to the state and all it brings.natsocs don't exist here. But since I stopped the blame everything on capitalism bs, I can't stand them anymore, but would like them to see that there are great guys on the libertarian/ancap side. So I thought you guys know some kind of shocktherapy for it. But I will try it with a subtle way like the other anon posted, maybe it helps.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500659417 134443550,134471600,2017-07-21 17:50:25,">>134470408 This never happened,but afghan terrorists used anti-air weapons made in usa to fight against the soviet invasion",,Anonymous,,,,,1500659425 134443550,134471769,2017-07-21 17:52:10,">>134471600 >This never happened Everything is possible in your head, if you believe in communism",,Anonymous,,,,,1500659530 134443550,134471930,2017-07-21 17:53:40,">>134471444 Yes, the point of agorism is that eventually compliance with the law becomes so costly people will just lose all respect they have for it. >mfw in my country I buy tobacco by kilograms in the black market. >mfw everyone I know does it >mfw it costs 1/4th of the official regulated tobacco that is riddled with poison",,Anonymous,DSCF7774.jpg,7sBAHUMM9mTTMXodjOBWfQ==,,,1500659620 134443550,134472019,2017-07-21 17:54:37,">>134471930 >yfw Konkin called himself a left-rothbardian",,Anonymous,,,,,1500659677 134443550,134472066,2017-07-21 17:55:03,">>134471587 ah, im sorry. what Kinda patriots you talking? you 'merican? If we're talking about normal-fags you might need to dig up some left-libertarian cucked ancap arguments. while they aren't true to our ideals they make cases that even egalitarian multiculturalism spewing pinko's have to agree on. what were their issues? I can maybe work out some arguments for you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500659703 134443550,134472151,2017-07-21 17:55:55,,,Anonymous,1d3.jpg,zMwQ9XqGd3XtbGbekHIbUg==,US,,1500659755 134443550,134472167,2017-07-21 17:56:06,">>134471930 is regular tobacco good in a pipe?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500659766 134443550,134472779,2017-07-21 18:01:55,">>134472167 I like it better than cigars. you choose exactly how much you want. the tabbaco is usually higher quality, more variety, less branding and marketing bullshit. you choose by looking and smelling it rather than some pretentious label and heresay.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500660115 134443550,134473000,2017-07-21 18:03:49,">>134471930 Do you live in the balkans, sounds like when a friend tells me from hometown. >>134472066 Austria, they aren't normies they are pretty far on the right, but everyone here is slightly socialistic and proud to pay taxes. >what were their issues? I can maybe work out some arguments for you. They are already on the nationalistic/patriotic side, but without any economic knowledge, still repeating the lies about capitalism and multinational companies etc etc etc. also they don't seem to understand the difference between a nation and a state. So the task would be to make a patriot who is anti immigration more libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500660229 134443550,134473307,2017-07-21 18:06:45,">>134472019 Agorism is how most ex-USSR republics state managed economies collapsed for. People just ignored the government officials and did what benefitted the most, which was to àrtake in revolutionary free markets (contraband, smuggling). Eventually the state managed economies had to back down and limit their claims on the economy if they wanted to ever get any level of consent from the people. Proof markets and private property are the natural state of a prosperous human society and abolition of it can only be brought upon by violence. In my country (somewhere in Europe) we had similar episodes like that. It is believed many people survived the post war rationing times by recurring to the black markets. >>134472167 It is fantastic in every way you want to consume it. Stop immediately buying the commercial tobacco, or at least any that isn't labeled as 100% natural. Most of the nasty effects attributed to 'tobacco' (cancers, heart disease, etc) are actually caused by the chemical additives. Addition of these chemicals and the subsequent studies linking tobacco to cancers was a plot to get the government to regulate the tobacco industry. The producers then got to deal with less competition and the state with more tax revenue. Every time you buy tobacco you're getting 'jewed', as most of /pol/ would say. >>134473000 Southern Europe has every day more Balkan-tier standards for everything. We aren't first world at all.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500660405 134443550,134473357,2017-07-21 18:07:12,">>134470408 >implying your parents would tolerate you keeping a rocket launcher in their basement Airborne lockers when?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1500660432 134443550,134473377,2017-07-21 18:07:25,"excellent thread, as always.",,Anonymous,IMG_2655.png,CAbLoYYuoJu4HCILjjrftA==,,,1500660445 134443550,134473746,2017-07-21 18:11:09,,,Anonymous,when-there-is-legit-oppression-of-women-in-the-middle-20449327.png,y7qvbuNHBjBJfwzGZsaUzQ==,US,,1500660669 134443550,134474181,2017-07-21 18:15:22,>>134444444,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500660922 134443550,134474380,2017-07-21 18:17:15,>>134449656,,Anonymous,IMG_2986.jpg,Y2bUwnCA+q8J1j7kCqfBqQ==,US,,1500661035 134443550,134475598,2017-07-21 18:29:24,">>134473000 basically you need redefine the way they see capitalism and socialsim. You need to clarify that the negitive impacts of ""capitalism and multinational companies"" on OUR NATIONS, OUR PEOPLE, is not the result of free trade or capitalism. Whats happening to our nations is NOT the result of OUR PEOPLE WORKING TOWARDS OUR BEST INTERESTS ( this is important, capitalism is you and your people working for their best interests, repeat the fuck out of this point) but rather the state is doing whats best for THEIR KIKE INTERESTS. This means SELLING YOUR PEOPLE as slaves to ""multinational companies"" when they put you out of buiness by creating monopolies, raising wages too high for you to pay and nationalizing industry. The socialist state drives families apart woud would without welfare have to rely on each other for support. im rambling but this is the kinda pitch I'd have in mind. You need to show how what they think is Capitalism ( and you another word if its that jaded. LIBERTY for our people, if your culture can get into that ) show them that the STATE IS NOT US. I figure them being socialists the marxist classwar trick could get them to click. the state is not an extension of our people, it is the murderer who commands us at gunpoint. They are Above you and me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500661764 134443550,134476382,2017-07-21 18:37:06,">>134475598 >this is important, capitalism is you and your people working for their best interests, repeat the fuck out of this point seems I have to repeat it some more >the state is not an extension of our people, it is the murderer who commands us at gunpoint. They are Above you and me. I could try this and the STATE IS NOT US part next time, while telling them the economy is us will be interesting if they would defend the state thanks and if it won't work out I will just use more time working together with libertarians.",,Anonymous,snek will not surrender.jpg,J8f4IICdM0OG4aeJlVYesg==,,,1500662226 134443550,134477508,2017-07-21 18:48:03,">>134476382 >seems I have to repeat it some more when they point out somthing an evil corporation did, ask them ""would you have done that to our people?"" ""would you have fucked us like that? Sell our people? cheat them out of wages?"" They pretty much have to say no at that point if they're really nationalist. ask them why they weren't running that buisness. if its ""hard"" show them its because the corporations are in arangement with the state to keep them in industry leading monopolies.they set standards so high that small local and family oriented buinesses can't stay in buiness. the state creates a predatory enviorment for these companies to fuck you.",,Anonymous,19366366_241430413013491_5474478553050382058_n.jpg,z5QIQJwdLABPQ/5YCJG0nA==,,,1500662883 134443550,134478344,2017-07-21 18:55:46,">>134477508 will try",,Anonymous,sneks.jpg,zqK6z8d0FRclP8j8JyJf5g==,,,1500663346 134443550,134480414,2017-07-21 19:15:08,">>134443550 Off-topic but how would I go about making my own flag version of this pic? I'm a bit of a photoshop noob.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500664508 134443550,134480852,2017-07-21 19:17:32,">>134480414 you want it as is with ""politically incorrect"" wirtten on it centered on a flag shaped image?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500664652 134443550,134480881,2017-07-21 19:17:48,">>134443550 Are niggers and jews allowed in a libertarian society? If so, I'll pass.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500664668 134443550,134481113,2017-07-21 19:20:17,">>134472019 commies get the fuck off my board reeeeeee",,Anonymous,42a425aa667a6320409d7ce06964c6d82b5daff072ba3afff4c16d04b3a6d3b3_1.jpg,cBJ5X4TnUMKuoIk0iccj3A==,,,1500664817 134443550,134481140,2017-07-21 19:20:31,">>134480881 only if you are too poor and have to live in Browntownistan, I wont be living with plebs like you tho.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500664831 134443550,134481200,2017-07-21 19:21:01,">>134480881 If you don't want them, just don't let them in.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500664861 134443550,134481500,2017-07-21 19:24:04,"WHAT IDEOLOGY IS /POL/ NEW POLL UP >NEW POLL UP NEW POLL UP >NEW POLL UP NEW POLL UP http://www.strawpoll.me/13500378 >http://www.strawpoll.me/13500378 http://www.strawpoll.me/13500378 >http://www.strawpoll.me/13500378 http://www.strawpoll.me/13500378 LET'S SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL",,Anonymous,1500336443644.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,,,1500665044 134443550,134481639,2017-07-21 19:25:30,">>134481500 >LET'S SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL for the millionth time, but fuck it i'll vote. >>134480414",,Anonymous,FLAGSDEN.png,GJUftJ7a2p8PP1WYr/Oc8A==,,,1500665130 134443550,134482701,2017-07-21 19:35:42,"great poll, clearly /pol/ is 100% edgy libertarian.",,Anonymous,1493143601662.jpg,J/uOowPwYBLTiKnkednz/g==,,,1500665742 134443550,134482895,2017-07-21 19:37:24,">>134482701 based lefties and nazis cant into economics",,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,,,1500665844 134443550,134484215,2017-07-21 19:49:51,">>134481500 >http://www.strawpoll.me/13500378 We win",,Anonymous,lmaofag.png,IilISrMzZYBzKQy4uXTnXA==,,,1500666591 134443550,134486166,2017-07-21 20:10:25,,,Anonymous,uemcuyhctlny.jpg,xQSYQ3h/rTkS54JiSykLBg==,,,1500667825 134443550,134486729,2017-07-21 20:16:09,,,Anonymous,com.jpg,tak+y/8mpH2JJrwIzXo7LQ==,,,1500668169 134443550,134486805,2017-07-21 20:16:51,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1500668211 134443550,134488133,2017-07-21 20:30:48,,,Anonymous,1495584340120.jpg,wx/RpFd6szojjrZtbqa7CQ==,,,1500669048 134443550,134488205,2017-07-21 20:31:38,,,Anonymous,sZBcSPk.png,Uvjx9UjzJD1sbUeJEkjGkQ==,,,1500669098 134443550,134488412,2017-07-21 20:33:52,,,Anonymous,10ed.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,,,1500669232 134443550,134488639,2017-07-21 20:36:27,,,Anonymous,ancap property.jpg,trTrrCkmetdoA4aoEncLdg==,,,1500669387 134498852,134498852,2017-07-21 22:29:53,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1499986466630.png,somM/10ZW+h+lpnZPSRolA==,,,1500676193 134498852,134498962,2017-07-21 22:31:07,"THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",,Anonymous,,,,,1500676267 134498852,134499157,2017-07-21 22:33:23,,,Anonymous,1499986388153.png,57N8tZ7l20PperhlSHfstQ==,,,1500676403 134498852,134499604,2017-07-21 22:38:40,">Shit-Libs need to fuck off That's a tad aggressive. We just believe local community volunteering is a better law enforcement mechanism than private organisations, which sounds dystopian, or the state, which is.. well, I'm in an anarchist thread. Left libertarians simply believe in more sharing of one's property, if you will, but not the sharing of another's property. This means initially creating charities and educational programs designed to relieve pressure on the state, instead of grow it like in Australia, and then maintain a minarchal society that only supports the enforcement of contracts, prevention of aggression and obvious crime, and to protect the people from outside forces. Left libertarians can also have a nationalistic side, importing migrants is not relieving pressure on the state. Debate me, prove to me a long game of socially engineered individualism isn't cheaper and more minimalistic than privatizing everything and progressively dealing with the consequences.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500676720 134498852,134500977,2017-07-21 22:54:17,,,Anonymous,harry browne libertarianism.jpg,H7akOwTI+n/qEtlchp3XTQ==,,,1500677657 134498852,134501361,2017-07-21 22:58:19,,,Anonymous,hoppe voting.jpg,3bfmBHWB8HuQpFdht5Pazg==,,,1500677899 134498852,134501538,2017-07-21 23:00:18,,,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,QohK4xkwv7OjvTtlRu1HNA==,,,1500678018 134498852,134501693,2017-07-21 23:01:59,"What has government done to our money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfjoDgLDfaU&t=57s This is the case being made for hard money and where people like Milton Friedman pull up short in the free market",,Anonymous,,,,,1500678119 134498852,134501878,2017-07-21 23:04:03,"America's Two Just Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpJt6bjls4k&t=1032s Rothbard lecture on secession and the civil war. Only Yankee I've ever heard say the south will rise again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500678243 134498852,134502059,2017-07-21 23:06:10,"No Treason, The Constitution of No Authority. Call in to question what it means to consent to be governed and if voting, tax paying, etc. even constitute such consent. TLDR: It does not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HYr64X5tG8",,Anonymous,spoonerbased.jpg,NFjW526h7GH6TbPQ+5/SfA==,,,1500678370 134498852,134502184,2017-07-21 23:07:35,,,Anonymous,bastiatongover.jpg,jKQIgPYgE/NdZoSiz+MzRg==,,,1500678455 134498852,134502292,2017-07-21 23:08:46,"Economics in One Lesson. by Hazlit Foundational economics lesson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxTB8P9kVXU",,Anonymous,hazlit.jpg,Fjxt1tzx69hLSbG8/0ZNSA==,,,1500678526 134498852,134502490,2017-07-21 23:11:03,,,Anonymous,,,,,1500678663 134498852,134502715,2017-07-21 23:13:37,,,Anonymous,,,,,1500678817 134498852,134502775,2017-07-21 23:14:12,,,Anonymous,Demcoracyplease.jpg,jmVrb6vDshD/eu8i3uWpbQ==,,,1500678852 134498852,134502817,2017-07-21 23:14:37,,,Anonymous,Bj8DWcRCQAAuGid.jpg,M1DNKNjlHDlnSa1brLMdGQ==,,,1500678877 134498852,134502843,2017-07-21 23:14:55,">>134498852 Bump.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500678895 134498852,134502869,2017-07-21 23:15:14,,,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,,,1500678914 134498852,134502922,2017-07-21 23:15:53,,,Anonymous,lewylewylewy.jpg,Z2SuJdfDniRKQwPkOeJ8tA==,,,1500678953 134498852,134502950,2017-07-21 23:16:12,,,Anonymous,Libertarian Party.png,3Q2AI9LoCVSt4+/GJ9Wu4Q==,,,1500678972 134498852,134503001,2017-07-21 23:16:40,,,Anonymous,bastiatrightvslaw.jpg,R1IDtW3Wp0ITJqEpWLaWww==,,,1500679000 134498852,134503064,2017-07-21 23:17:20,,,Anonymous,ludwig-von-mises-606864.jpg,1TAyYM8p9heTkScoTSRH1Q==,,,1500679040 134498852,134503100,2017-07-21 23:17:44,Can children consent?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500679064 134498852,134503201,2017-07-21 23:18:53,"Bump >>134502950 >Libertarian party",,Anonymous,1500336443644.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,US,,1500679133 134498852,134503219,2017-07-21 23:19:01,,,Anonymous,misesonspeech.jpg,M8yYVVZA5p74skfnnB2kmg==,,,1500679141 134498852,134503259,2017-07-21 23:19:37,">>134503100 No.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500679177 134498852,134503289,2017-07-21 23:19:57,">>134503100 No, that's what makes them children",,Anonymous,quote-unlike-the-days-of-the-gold-standard-it-is-impossible-for-the-federal-reserve-to-go-murray-rothbard-96-27-64.jpg,9Bet9xPng2xGSOyR+DwxQg==,,,1500679197 134498852,134503310,2017-07-21 23:20:10,">>134502490 Follow my logic here: >The success of your /society largely has very little to do with your economic system, more to do with your gene pool, IQ levels....etc >Thus it makes more sense to pursue policies designed to shore-up the gene pool, rather than pursue absolute 100% market efficiency >Therefore, things such as conservative social values are far more important than free markets Make sense to you? Not everybody is gifted with the magical gene combination that makes them a billionaire genius. Thus, for every 1 genius, there will be 99 normals. The normals have within them the genes to make a genius, they just didn't get the right combination of genes. Thus, providing for a breeding population of ""normals"" will insure that every now and them like clockwork, a certain % of geniuses will be produced. These normals may not have it in them to provide a super high quality of life that enables them to raise children in a supportive way, they may need some help (delivered to them from the geniuses who are making the big dollars). That genius was lucky, by chance he got the right gene combination. But he shouldn't forget his people, the gene pool from which he was produced. These are the fundamental elements of national socialism. Now you can actually build a functional national community that works and supports each other as a single integrated unit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500679210 134498852,134503349,2017-07-21 23:20:40,,,Anonymous,didn'tsignthat.jpg,maVihqRF6fJRnc2dCtjuNw==,,,1500679240 134498852,134503405,2017-07-21 23:21:24,,,Anonymous,notanothersocialistrodeo.jpg,OWvlFeBZxQ2iCLUL/ReW0A==,,,1500679284 134498852,134503418,2017-07-21 23:21:35,">>134498852 There's nothing right-wing about violent subjugation of others to arbitrary whims or using violence against people who do nothing physical. If you want to use violence against people who merely vocalize some idea you don't like, you're no better than the commies.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1500679295 134498852,134503507,2017-07-21 23:22:45,">>134503310 You should probably watch that video",,Anonymous,,,,,1500679365 134498852,134503563,2017-07-21 23:23:29,,,Anonymous,statist.jpg,zlzXBa0OycDi0fvviZul0A==,,,1500679409 134498852,134503643,2017-07-21 23:24:29,,,Anonymous,thankswhitey.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,,,1500679469 134498852,134503676,2017-07-21 23:25:09,,,Anonymous,Mises-Socialism-on Collectivism.png,1R3QdXcK41Bc0MS/Zv3RNw==,,,1500679509 134498852,134503833,2017-07-21 23:27:02,captcha is getting onerous. I'm out,,Anonymous,hoppeonconflict.jpg,iHXofNrZpzBu/vI0a0PCwA==,,,1500679622 134498852,134504287,2017-07-21 23:33:03,">>134503418 A society where a population threatens to ""seize the means of production"", starts riots and destroys property is NOT a libertarian society. They have to be removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500679983 134498852,134504385,2017-07-21 23:34:22,">>134504287 If people assault person or property they're morally responsible for doing so. You're morally responsible for assaulting people for speaking words you don't like by the same token.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1500680062 134498852,134504697,2017-07-21 23:38:24,">>134504385 What makes you assume I've ever assaulted anyone just for speaking?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500680304 134498852,134505138,2017-07-21 23:43:47,">>134503001 Pointig out the fucking obvious.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500680627 134498852,134506909,2017-07-22 00:06:40,>>134504697,,Praceteom,questionmark girl4.jpg,JQtp4QjD+hNx7sT2jUlumg==,US,,1500682000 134498852,134507150,2017-07-22 00:09:21,">>134502490 He doesn't actually address ideas. Basically he just says ""wow, this is like...so bad....wow""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500682161 134531293,134531293,2017-07-22 06:52:05,">""Libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives."" -Hans-Hermann Hoppe This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads THREAD THEME: >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DAY OF THE REMOVAL EDITION,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,,,1500706325 134531293,134531358,2017-07-22 06:53:25,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1500706405 134531293,134531508,2017-07-22 06:55:53,">Hurrr you can't physically remove communists for thought crime. you're just as bad as them! >They're not hurting anyone, don't you belive in free speech!? A society where a population threatens to ""seize the means of production"", starts riots, and destroys private property is NOT a libertarian society. They have to be removed.",,Anonymous,Commies (1).jpg,yL1qw3koHy3lpzfz0QPPhw==,,,1500706553 134531293,134531558,2017-07-22 06:56:27,">Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.",,Anonymous,jews.png,al+7MIsDMwLL/s3dnc9UYQ==,,,1500706587 134531293,134531605,2017-07-22 06:57:03,ALL socialism is about dominating and subjugating the people. which brings me to my next point...,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1500706623 134531293,134531618,2017-07-22 06:57:14,Communists are aggressors by their own claim. Eliminating them is in defense of property and non-aggression.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1500706634 134531293,134531637,2017-07-22 06:57:32,On point,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500706652 134531293,134532117,2017-07-22 07:05:35,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (7).png,Ps0EkdLm4GTSaTkGmxi0Gw==,US,,1500707135 134531293,134532575,2017-07-22 07:12:48,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (8).png,6z9bMzuxMtKS/VW9Fz9m4Q==,US,,1500707568 134531293,134532667,2017-07-22 07:14:20,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1500707660 134531293,134533147,2017-07-22 07:23:16,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1500708196 134531293,134533501,2017-07-22 07:29:32,>>134531293,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1500708572 134531293,134534225,2017-07-22 07:42:11,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (9).png,xuEeqQFPwQ4WrhcKYbYA/g==,US,,1500709331 134531293,134535560,2017-07-22 08:04:12,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (6).png,GswtS/nQpqWIyQdTLiXunw==,US,,1500710652 134531293,134536115,2017-07-22 08:13:43,,,Anonymous,1500336443644.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,US,,1500711223 134531293,134536546,2017-07-22 08:20:11,,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1500711611 134531293,134536952,2017-07-22 08:26:25,,,Anonymous,Hoppe.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,US,,1500711985 134531293,134537089,2017-07-22 08:28:30,Ron Paul for mustard gas 2020.,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1500712110 134531293,134537288,2017-07-22 08:31:48,">>134536115 >Conservatism >right to voluntarily discriminate >free market economics with accompanying prosperity >prompt physical removal of troublemakers >Private communities with privately enforced standards >social hierarchy It astounds me that people actually reject this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500712308 134531293,134537528,2017-07-22 08:36:13,">>134537288 Try think libertarian principles mean we want you to reject your family and your Nation. They don't see it as letting the people determine local policy directly rather than being made to accept universal principles from the state. Also wassap my favorite fascist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500712573 134531293,134537637,2017-07-22 08:37:59,">>134537528 'sup",,Anonymous,High five.jpg,Uss7E3r3O5MG5N7wRzcrcg==,,,1500712679 134531293,134537785,2017-07-22 08:40:41,">>134537528 They think*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500712841 134531293,134537938,2017-07-22 08:43:19,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (1).png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,US,,1500712999 134531293,134538072,2017-07-22 08:45:23,">>134537528 This You can be politically a libertarian and privately be a conservative. Because you don't want to impose rules on other, for example regarding drug use, does not mean you have to agree with drug usage. Also we need to destroy these, ""Select all images with Click verify once there are none left"", captcha's.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1500713123 134531293,134538208,2017-07-22 08:47:45,What libertarian merchandise do you fellas have?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500713265 134531293,134538226,2017-07-22 08:48:05,">>134538072 I just payed the 4jew to bypass that shit. I can't be playing mini games while trying to shill my propaganda.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500713285 134531293,134538622,2017-07-22 08:54:44,">muh you can't remove peaceful communists for saying things you don't like. >peaceful communists",,Anonymous,Commies (2).jpg,60mmAahICu+QRdjBXMIZlQ==,US,,1500713684 134531293,134539347,2017-07-22 09:06:58,>Right wing populism | Murray Rothbard,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1500714418 134531293,134539387,2017-07-22 09:07:34,">>134538622 ""Peaceful communists"" is an oxymoron. As is ""peaceful liberals."" I've known many liberals, including those of my own family. Once you scratch the surface, you find there's only hatred and greed hiding deep.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500714454 134531293,134539422,2017-07-22 09:08:19,">>134538208 Not much to be honest, I've got a big no step on snek flag. But that's it. I gotta lotta German and American WW2 stuff instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500714499 134531293,134539584,2017-07-22 09:10:54,">>134531508 They've already violated the NAP by making threats to my private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500714654 134531293,134539647,2017-07-22 09:12:05,">>134539387 Yeah I know a liberal close to home who pretty much Hates the world and see's ""the only way to win is to be a victim"" he's a hardcore militant atheist and it turns his perception into a deterministic nightmare and socialism and totalitarianism as a bright solution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500714725 134531293,134540229,2017-07-22 09:21:27,"Centrist Libertarian here I like you guys but you act like you'd let your fixation on rightwing ideology interfere with common sense, and you know you need to admit that sometimes in extremely rare scenarios the government is going to need to financially aid its citizens, like during a completely random natural disaster. or war on our soil. The only form of libertarianism that is pragmatic and real is Centrist libertarianism. be realistic. Libertarianism makes sense but you need to realize that there's occasional scenarios where the government is going to need to aid its citizens a bit. Not saying things need to be more authoritarian, but economically centrist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500715287 134531293,134540431,2017-07-22 09:24:23,">>134540229 You aren't libertarian if you're centrist, the whole movement is capitalism and therefore economic right wing Fuck off",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500715463 134531293,134540538,2017-07-22 09:26:06,">>134540229 Care to make an argument for ""government needs to aid citizens"", simply asserting it to be true doesn't make it so. sounds to me you're a liberal, not a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500715566 134531293,134540598,2017-07-22 09:26:58,">>134540229 Fuck off commie",,Anonymous,obvious_jew.jpg,0u1KJ7Cp/G/QBrZ4afg2XA==,CA,,1500715618 134531293,134540904,2017-07-22 09:31:47,">>134540229 Again, no. If you built your home in an area prone to natural disasters, why should people OUTSIDE of it who aren't affected by it support you? Use foresight, do your research and accept the consequences of your decision--you'll live or die by it. As for war...there's a lot of material available online about how you could actually have a completely libertarian military.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500715907 134531293,134540910,2017-07-22 09:31:50,">>134540431 >>134540538 >>134540598 Oh look, uneducated people who call themselves Libertarian but never read any of the political philosophies or doctrine of what it means or how it was derived, and why I doubt you're even ring wing libertarians, probably just bored shitposters",,Anonymous,,,,,1500715910 134531293,134541003,2017-07-22 09:33:20,">>134540904 Alright well your ideology would be less economically prosperous and would waste more lives in the longrun. have it your way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500716000 134531293,134541692,2017-07-22 09:42:38,">>134540910 You're under the delusion than your positions hold enough water to merit refutation",,Anonymous,IMG_6665.jpg,f0Xipq2IaVZB0GrzYWaGyg==,CA,,1500716558 134531293,134541724,2017-07-22 09:43:01,">>134541003 >>134540910 >When the ""libertarian"" rejects property rights. By what merits do you call yourself a libertarian? You are fine with the state forcing you to pay for fuck ups you had no hand in. You're not a libertarian, just a liberal who's fed up with sjw shit. What is your distorted idea of the libertarian doctrine?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500716581 134531293,134542511,2017-07-22 09:54:29,,,Anonymous,ORDER.png,6rFDv6/FV6AEc0JJOOJR+w==,US,,1500717269 134531293,134542805,2017-07-22 09:58:43,"What do people think of Michael Munger? Specifically his statement on destination libertarians vs directional libertarians? Is there anything on the state level you'd think the libertarian party should represent?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500717523 134531293,134543016,2017-07-22 10:01:41,">>134540904 >why should people OUTSIDE of it who aren't affected by it support you? Well they could charge high prices during a catastrophe. More demand (due to an emergency) leads to higher prices which leads to producers doing all they can to get their product/service delivered in a catastrophe stricken area.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500717701 134531293,134543142,2017-07-22 10:03:28,">>134542805 I don't know the guy but I assume your talking about ""is it just to use ""non libertarian"" means to achieve a libertarian society?"" My perception is that we are being aggressed upon and so such means would be warranted as self defense. The terms are a bit muddy. I'd have to be given some specifics before I could really say that to be true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500717808 134531293,134543771,2017-07-22 10:13:19,">>134543142 I highly recommend his talks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUOPhLlU4dE He has run as a libertarian on a state level. By ""destination libertarian"" he means the purest form of libertarianism (so 'the state is treading on me, I'll shoot it'), by ""direction libertarianism"" he means moving our current political system in the direction of libertarianism. Essentially pragmatism and knowing we aren't going to elect the next Pinochet so let's do the best we can with what we got.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500718399 134531293,134544206,2017-07-22 10:19:27,Reminder that agorists are communist enablers,,Anonymous,15822754_1218647601536890_2379209963733124138_n.png.jpg,mA9FYLalbhO+OiQJQKy6MQ==,US,,1500718767 134531293,134544288,2017-07-22 10:20:35,">>134537288 >It astounds me that people actually reject this. exactly that's why /lrg/ is our greatest ally.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500718835 134531293,134544297,2017-07-22 10:20:44,">>134543771 I feel I could be doing both, I support pragmatic policy that puts us closer to libertopia, but at the same time, fuck the law. Don't abide by it if you won't be caught. Evade taxes and shoot some politicians if you can get away with it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500718844 134531293,134544421,2017-07-22 10:22:30,">>134541003 >waste lives People that die because of their own stupidity deserve nothing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500718950 134531293,134544474,2017-07-22 10:23:23,">>134544206 I feel to same way, the only illegal markets you can get into on a starter level are usually degenerate as fuck. But still, the jobs I do don't get reported to the state and I don't get taxed. If you could get a whole community to just not pay taxes on their businesses maybe you could get some succession going on.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500719003 134531293,134544543,2017-07-22 10:24:28,">>134544288 What's this? Two fashy goys? Man you guys are alright. I thought you were the same guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500719068 134531293,134544711,2017-07-22 10:26:49,">>134531293 Why do you link David Friedman when he's one of the open borders libertarians you Hoppeans hate?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500719209 134531293,134544917,2017-07-22 10:29:35,">>134544543 No I was in the last one, just passing by because I saw a thread so early. maybe anons see that libertarianism the best way to raise society to a higher level.",,Anonymous,eila tea.jpg,WIaWs82ZLTrGlhQeOabL4g==,,,1500719375 134531293,134544984,2017-07-22 10:30:27,">>134544711 Let them speak when they're right about the market, physically removed them when they shill for globalism. What's the problem?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500719427 134531293,134545179,2017-07-22 10:33:14,">>134544984 Now you want to physically remove ""globalists""? Do you really think you're fooling anybody calling yourself libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500719594 134531293,134545306,2017-07-22 10:34:53,">>134544917 Yeah I recognized you by ""greatest Ally"". Y'know for fascists you understand libertarianism better than most god awful snekflag posters on this board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500719693 134531293,134545363,2017-07-22 10:35:35,,,Anonymous,bird treads on snek.webm,yTN1bNeUqeyFHZA9Qh3aRw==,AU,,1500719735 134531293,134545445,2017-07-22 10:36:41,">>134545179 Why would property rights imply that I have to tolerate subversives who want to put in place a regime of open borders on my homeland. I have no obligation to do such a thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500719801 134531293,134545683,2017-07-22 10:39:53,">>134545306 Maybe because we come from the other side and learned about it from uncucked libertarians. Also everyone on the right should read Hoppe he is very important to unite us.",,Anonymous,hoppe democracy.jpg,IjRVVkmwB6DUR+Xf//TTgA==,,,1500719993 134531293,134545701,2017-07-22 10:40:10,">>134545445 You don't have the right to dictate who other people can associate with. Unless you can somehow get people in your ""homeland"" to unanimously ostracize ""subversives"", you're never gonna ""physical remove"" them without initiating violence against them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500720010 134531293,134545728,2017-07-22 10:40:29,">>134545363 Delete this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500720029 134531293,134546144,2017-07-22 10:45:42,">>134545701 Right, and so you don't get to force me to associate with open borders cucks. Opening of the central state puts all of our property at risk as long as there is public property. That in combination with the civil Rights act creates a situation where we are forced to integrate foreigners into our institutions. Maybe read up on from the Orthodox AnCap position See >>134531358",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500720342 134531293,134547481,2017-07-22 11:01:38,">>134545683 True most non right winger get introduced via libertarian cuckoldry and later move up. Fascists aren't worried about normalfag issues and are able to dive into the real shit right away.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500721298 134531293,134547762,2017-07-22 11:05:03,">>134545363 DELET",,Anonymous,1495484384712.jpg,X/lUz8+ZoYKgoXJxttdPjQ==,US,,1500721503 134531293,134548092,2017-07-22 11:08:43,">>134547481 Yes, but on the other hand you have conservative right wingers, who heard all their life how capitalism = exploitation = globalisation =open borders etc. and they believe it, some of them are even willingly to cooperate with socialists as long as they are patriotic and against free markets. But it is a good start that more people come into this threads here.",,Anonymous,ancap fie.png,Q2cxQbiZjGJTsehfHD9lFQ==,,,1500721723 134531293,134548391,2017-07-22 11:12:24,">>134548092 That shit is a bit hard for me to wrap my head around, conservative in my country means you embrace capitalism and nationalism. Conservatives by you are practically NatSoc or some lite version?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500721944 134531293,134548885,2017-07-22 11:17:47,">>134548391 >Conservatives by you are practically NatSoc or some lite version? They are afraid of being called natsoc or nationalists, so they call themselves patriots, but when you talk with them you see everyone of them has socialist tendencies, I've never faced so much hate as when I talk property rights and free markets. So in the end they are much closer to natsoc as they'd like to be, while some natsocs I know are more leaning to libertarians than actual being natsoc, it is a weird situation in europe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500722267 134531293,134548965,2017-07-22 11:18:40,,,Anonymous,1493839493056.jpg,mT/u8qn8F9Maqej1uTBhuQ==,US,,1500722320 134531293,134549249,2017-07-22 11:21:57,">when u get rid of labor laws and work safe laws and plunge millions of people into poverty and on the job deaths skyrocket >when to fight corpratism u lift regulations allowing even greater corprotism to form >when u get rid of welfare and inadvertent murder and leave millions homeless and destitute >when confronted with how these people will be taken care of u scream muh charity ignoring how charity is a fucking scam who knows maybe one day when u are down and no one wants to help u maybe u will gyow up but u are all bunch of edgelord teens who probably have never worked or are on welfare yourselves so.....",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500722517 134531293,134549408,2017-07-22 11:23:47,">>134549249 I hope for your sake that you are trolling",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500722627 134531293,134549574,2017-07-22 11:25:44,">>134548885 Yesterday I was trying to come up with arguments around a NatSoc perspective. Is their fear of being called nationalists genuine or due to PC bullshit? I mean to say if you approached capitalism as a explicitly nationalist position would they fag out or identify with it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500722744 134531293,134549612,2017-07-22 11:26:10,">>134549408 im not libertarianism like all other utopian idea are pipe dreams disprove a single thing i said mate im happy to debate",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500722770 134531293,134549954,2017-07-22 11:30:25,">>134549249 You don't belong here. Real world experience and applying it to others is a sign of maturity and rational thought. Neither has a place on this board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500723025 134531293,134549966,2017-07-22 11:30:31,">>134549574 >I mean to say if you approached capitalism as a explicitly nationalist position would they fag out or identify with it? depends, I can't really tell with many people if they are really afraid because of the government or if they are really against nationalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500723031 134531293,134550381,2017-07-22 11:35:20,">>134549966 Okay, well what kind of ""Patriot"" rhetoric do they espouse? NatSoc stresses our people, our volk. But that might be too racist for them. Do they talk about muh county maybe? You gotta take whatever it is and show them how property rights can achieves those things .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500723320 134531293,134550418,2017-07-22 11:35:35,">>134549249 >when u get rid of labor laws and work safe laws and plunge millions of people into poverty and on the job deaths skyrocket They would actually go down, because of advances in technology and the dismantling of bureaucracy would leave these jobs in the past. Even then, its your fault if you choose a dumb job. If you really care, why not start a safe hiring industry practices company and only offer as an agency, safe jobs? Because you don't, you're just projecting your fears. >when to fight corpratism u lift regulations allowing even greater corprotism to form Incorrect. Its easier to be a giant corporate umbrella today BECAUSE the amount of regulations and their ability to control the little guys. People want to buy locally and do good for their community. >when u get rid of welfare and inadvertent murder and leave millions homeless and destitute People on welfare were not meant to be alive anyway, nobody cares? No matter how harsh it sounds that is the truth. They are on welfare anyway because Federal Reserve policies. You're argument is garbage. Do you think a heroin addict deserves to live, because it feels good to keep being a heroin addict and getting off of it would suck for 1-2 weeks? >when confronted with how these people will be taken care of u scream muh charity ignoring how charity is a fucking scam ""Charity is a scam"". Great, if you think other charities are scamming, then you can open your own and give free vouchers and hand outs to those donating to those specific charities you think are a scam, of direct evidence they are scamming their donators. You won't do that though because once again you are projecting your apathy.",,Anonymous,1496407962338.jpg,7s0n3KqXnsc0QLWNdlnAtw==,US,,1500723335 134531293,134550728,2017-07-22 11:39:20,">>134537938 >not button slapping ""physical removal""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500723560 134531293,134550848,2017-07-22 11:41:01,">>134550728 >When you're hitting it from the back and she moans ""taxation is the price we pay for civilization"" REMOVE.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500723661 134531293,134551043,2017-07-22 11:43:24,">>134550381 Mostly on the right it goes with we are patriots we love the state we hate nazis, we want welfare and government jobs only for our people, we are proud to pay taxes because that is the prize we pay for living in a civilisised society, capitalism is to blame for immigration because big companies wants maximum profit thats why they lower the wages with immigrants, property rights, they agree with but it should be the task of the police to defend it, so no self justice and if your property hurt the feelings of other people it should also be banned. oh and muslims are bad, that is the main rhetoric.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500723804 134531293,134551176,2017-07-22 11:45:05,yes,,Anonymous,,,,,1500723905 134531293,134551247,2017-07-22 11:46:01,"""Libertarian"" is code word for Aryan Brotherhood nazi, fuck y'all.",,Anonymous,aryanbrotherhood.jpg,Frgmm+XEoqwunhAE9czHgA==,,,1500723961 134531293,134551263,2017-07-22 11:46:15,">>134549612 Personal responsibility is a beautiful thing, that is my response",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500723975 134531293,134551311,2017-07-22 11:46:48,">>134551247 ALL nazis get punched, especially alt-right chanchumps",,Anonymous,strongersmarter.jpg,8B5Gu8/mpl0ZkvmzpX0Y+w==,,,1500724008 134531293,134551705,2017-07-22 11:51:23,">>134550418 >hey would actually go down, because of advances in technology and the dismantling of bureaucracy would leave these jobs in the past i agree on the tech bit but not on the bureaucrat bit there is no reason to rip up our beuracratic establishment when its mainly working fine there is no good reason the gov should just la off millions of people who work in public services >Incorrect corpratism thrives in an unregulated enviroment thats why we dont just need the regs alread in place we need to EXPAND them >People on welfare were not meant to be alive anyway, nobody cares all people deserve a minimum standard of living no matter their class the idea ""the poor werent to live"" is just an elitist opinion u hold >Great, if you think other charities are scamming, then you can open your own and give free vouchers and hand outs to those donating to those specific charities you think are a scam, of direct evidence they are scamming their donators i dont do it because i know it is a lost cause no single charitable group can help the disenfranchised of a nation must less the world only the gov has a true viable solution to helping reduce suffering thats wh i stand with the other working class agisnt u and your kind i think it is worth to mention that the little utopia u imagine will NEVER exist because the working people are not on the same side as u and the people never will be",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500724283 134531293,134552654,2017-07-22 12:03:05,">>134551043 Jesus that's pretty rough. That's full blown socialist, not just liberal crypto socialism. I said it yesterday but cucky feelgood libertarianism (like adam kikesh ) might be the way to go. He usually makes socialists feel like bad goys and has some aggressive debate tactics. I've seen that kike convince a real nationalist Texan to embrace open borders. Even if he's a cuck he makes strong arguments. That and you need to show ""capitalism"" as corporatism. I'll see if I can work at it but it's a tough sell to that mindset.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500724985 134531293,134553199,2017-07-22 12:09:50,">>134552654 >That's full blown socialist, not just liberal crypto socialism. Yes, I think prussian socialism is to blame for this at least in the german parts of europe. but it is all the same across europe there are no real right wing movements. That's why I said yesterday, It is maybe easier to start with libertarians and make them conservatives as the other way around",,Anonymous,1496855132327.jpg,bwFA1Rf55Eder3pcMEoblg==,,,1500725390 134531293,134553247,2017-07-22 12:10:23,">>134552654 I should add that these cuck libertarians (being communist likes themselves) are great at winning over socialists. Peter Schiff is one such guy who can convert socialists easy. He went to occupy wallstreet and debated everyone there. Pretty much hit every possible argument. It's definitely different with conservative socialists but it's what comes to mind.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500725423 134531293,134553553,2017-07-22 12:13:55,">>134551705 >corporatism thrives in an unregulated environment Objectively incorrect, you clearly need a lesson in economics. Read Choice or Human Action",,Anonymous,reading_list_small.png,QFMlodIPyxKLhmTQ9IgLGQ==,GB,,1500725635 134531293,134553663,2017-07-22 12:15:16,">>134553247 >Peter Schiff is one such guy who can convert socialists easy. He went to occupy wallstreet and debated everyone there. saw that video, was great. Everyone here is like the australian guy here >>134551705 Only difference with left and right is you like immigration/muslims you are left, you don't like immigration/muslims you are right there is no difference in their economic view, and nobody even cares about it. there are small parties which go into economics also, but they don't have any chance to get anywhere, they even struggle to get enough supporters to attend the vote.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500725716 134531293,134554208,2017-07-22 12:21:38,"Why do you have Ron Paul in your image when he has been espousing tolerance and free exchange of ideas, the opposite of Hoppean pseudo-libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500726098 134531293,134554256,2017-07-22 12:22:19,">>134553663 That's why we need better models i.e. Political compass Left/right that the media uses is so shit",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500726139 134531293,134554352,2017-07-22 12:23:37,"Ron Paul sounds real Hoppean here, huh? >Just because you allow somebody to have a lifestyle you disapprove of doesn't mean you have to endorse it. A lot of people don't quite understand that. They think legalizing freedom of choice is an endorsement of what people do. And there's no reason in the world that this can't bring people together. If you have people on the left and people on the right and they want liberty for something over here, and somebody wants liberty for this over here… why shouldn't everybody come together for liberty to use it as they see fit?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500726217 134531293,134554760,2017-07-22 12:28:53,">>134554208 Ron is a bit guilty of pandering to Democrats as an anti war guy. He may have inadvertantly started the leftist takeover of libertarianism but he himself is 100% edgy Paleolibertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500726533 134531293,134554835,2017-07-22 12:29:45,">>134554256 >Left/right that the media uses is so shit yes, but alternative media and groups use it the same way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500726585 134531293,134555177,2017-07-22 12:33:48,">>134554760 Nope, not at all. Again, Ron Paul: >And yes, there are a lot of people out there living their lives in ways we might disagree with. But intolerance is what government is based on. The far left, they are very intolerant and are happy to have people with guns tell other people how to live. We need to keep in mind that if other people aren’t hurting us or using government to force their way of life on us, they should be left alone. Unlike the left, we want tolerance for other people’s morals and for how other people work for a living and what they choose to do with their money. We need more tolerance and humility in every aspect of life, and that’s how we get a free society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500726828 134531293,134555232,2017-07-22 12:34:28,Can someone please explain Hoppe to me? How would it differ from ancap?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500726868 134531293,134555411,2017-07-22 12:36:50,">>134554352 Yeah, he does. I don't have the quote on me but Hoppe has stuff that sounds just like this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500727010 134531293,134555490,2017-07-22 12:37:55,">>134555177 I don't see the what you're getting at, this is basic bitch libertarian stuff.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500727075 134531293,134555491,2017-07-22 12:37:55,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYwQxvFAIJY Reagan says it the best.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500727075 134531293,134555629,2017-07-22 12:39:49,">>134555232 Hoppe is an AnCap, but to us he represents the true Orthodoxy of libertarianism. Cultural conservatism, race realism. He pulls no punches and doesn't care what leftists think so he doesn't pander to them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500727189 134531293,134555667,2017-07-22 12:40:22,">>134555490 Do you read these Hoppean threads? Physical removal and tolerance are opposite values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500727222 134531293,134555722,2017-07-22 12:41:01,">>134555491 Reagan was not a libertarian at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500727261 134531293,134556229,2017-07-22 12:47:31,">>134555667 Tolerance in Ron's terms means not using the state to crush them. He is not implying that we must be inclusive and tolerate those who's values threaten our own. They can have theirs and we can have ours. There's no contradiction of libertarian principles in either Hoppe or Ron. Maybe check Ron's work at Mises/lewrockwell. His Campaign rehtoric is dumbed down for the public who know nothing of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500727651 134531293,134556413,2017-07-22 12:49:36,">>134555722 >The libertarian party has been infiltrated by conservatives The post. He goofed on a lot of shit but he's generally more libertarian than recent presidents.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500727776 134531293,134556774,2017-07-22 12:54:11,"Ron Paul is friends with lefties like Dennis Kucinich. Would you Hoppeans ""physically remove"" Ron Paul too since he wouldn't ostracize lefties in your society? https://youtu.be/oJcnoDfFWhM?t=1m8s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500728051 134531293,134556987,2017-07-22 12:56:53,">>134531293 Ron Paul in the streets, Hoppe in the sheets.",,Anonymous,ancap andy.jpg,nJJiImciDuRCuXn4r+lycw==,SK,,1500728213 134531293,134556994,2017-07-22 12:56:59,">>134556413 He should have set up a sensible guest worker program instead of granting blanket amnesty tho, that just exacerbated the immigration situation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500728219 134531293,134557083,2017-07-22 12:58:03,">>134556774 I would be honored to have Ron visit my covenant. Seriously read Hoppe, he's considered one of the most clear thinkers in libertarian thought. You'll find nothing he advocates violates property rights or non aggression.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500728283 134531293,134557131,2017-07-22 12:58:42,">>134555667 (Hoppean) physical removal isn't violative of anyone's rights.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500728322 134531293,134557140,2017-07-22 12:58:50,">>134556987 Lol, hail Slovakia.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500728330 134531293,134557146,2017-07-22 12:58:52,">>134556774 Dennis is a really good guy, he was one of the few politicians from central or northern Ohio who cared about the Appalachian part of the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500728332 134531293,134557340,2017-07-22 13:01:23,Y'all fellas fuck with the Gadsden flag? Or just the yellow and black?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500728483 134531293,134557604,2017-07-22 13:04:36,">>134557340 Both, but a lot of snekposters on /pol/ are retards and not /lrg/ approved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500728676 134531293,134557978,2017-07-22 13:09:35,">>134557340 A lot of Snekflaggers and AnCapflaggers on /pol/ are shills, so I stick to the good old geo-location option. Then again, the shills use whatever means necessary.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1500728975 134531293,134558188,2017-07-22 13:12:17,">>134557083 You can already retreat into gated covenant communities in America as is. You're not physically removing anybody. In fact you guys just want to retreat into tiny homogenous bubbles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500729137 134531293,134558462,2017-07-22 13:15:41,">>134558188 > you guys just want to retreat into tiny homogenous bubbles. And? Does that violate your ""right"" to suck dicks or something?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500729341 134531293,134558769,2017-07-22 13:19:16,">>134558462 I don't mind at all. Go ahead and physically remove yourself from broader society. You're doing the world a favor. It's just funny that Hoppeans talk about ""physically removing"" people as if anybody would want to live in their covenant communities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500729556 134531293,134558893,2017-07-22 13:20:44,">>134558769 >Go ahead and physically remove yourself from broader society. >implying you wouldn't force him via the state to fall back in line.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500729644 134531293,134558985,2017-07-22 13:22:02,">>134558893 I'm an anarchist, anon. And not one of these fake anarchists in these threads who praise Pinochet and Reagan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500729722 134531293,134559026,2017-07-22 13:22:32,"I'm a fan of the Gadsden serpent symbolism. I use it sometimes. Mostly for gun rights issues, where the symbolism is at its very best.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500729752 134531293,134559258,2017-07-22 13:25:43,">>134558985 Please fuck off back to r/libertarian, the libertarian party, or /liberty/ or wherever your cucky faggot dipshit ass came from. Maybe read some of Hoppe's work and you can discuss property rights with the big kids.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500729943 134531293,134559396,2017-07-22 13:27:24,">>134531293 Why do you call yourself ""libertarians"" when in reality you are liberals?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1500730044 134531293,134559653,2017-07-22 13:30:47,">>134559396 Because liberals in merica aren't the same as classical liberals in europe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500730247 134531293,134559785,2017-07-22 13:32:26,">>134559396 Liberals believe in a small state and equality of opportunity. We generally believe in neither of that bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500730346 134531293,134559877,2017-07-22 13:33:45,">>134559258 Why read an irrelevant joke ""philosopher? Why not read an actual PhD philosopher like Michael Huemer?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500730425 134531293,134560359,2017-07-22 13:40:09,">>134559877 But Anon, Hoppe is a Ph.D philosopher.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500730809 134531293,134560598,2017-07-22 13:43:13,">>134560359 Hoppe is an ""economist"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500730993 134531293,134560854,2017-07-22 13:46:18,">>134560598 (You) are a ""shill"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500731178 134531293,134561111,2017-07-22 13:49:21,">>134559785 In the real world, a small percentage of people will be very, very successful. How do you stop that 2% from using slave labor like they have throughout human history? >Inb4 paying someone $5 a week in the third world isn't slavery",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500731361 134531293,134561470,2017-07-22 13:54:14,">>134551311 i think those are backwards, bud.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500731654 134531293,134561601,2017-07-22 13:55:47,">>134561111 Paying someone for labor at a price they agreed to is not slavery by definition. Is this a thinly veiled ""property is theft"" meme?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500731747 134531293,134561978,2017-07-22 14:00:19,">>134561601 What makes you think it's """"""voluntary"""""" in third world dictatorships? Honestly What makes you think the people have any say in the toxic waste and pollution being pumped into their habitats?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500732019 134531293,134562412,2017-07-22 14:06:09,">>134561978 These ""third world dictatorships"" are failed socialist states. Show me the free Enterprise third world shit hole, they don't exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500732369 134531293,134562473,2017-07-22 14:07:00,">>134561978 >toxic waste and pollution being pumped into their habitats? that would destroy their property, and so it is only justified if the people living there rise against the this, or just file a lawsuit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500732420 134531293,134562474,2017-07-22 14:07:00,">>134561978 You're conflating the third world and an AnCap society to weasel around honest discourse. I'm not an ancap, but you are being ridiculous.",,Anonymous,97193aee78666c502532284bd6feac66.jpg,CUNyOlDQdPFsoPdCKjpBxQ==,US,,1500732420 134531293,134562550,2017-07-22 14:07:51,">>134531293 Can someone explain to me how water privatization would work? There is no production process so that price competition can happen through the investment into more efficient ways of production, as would be the case with energy for example. There is also hardly any differentiation in the product that is water, and I'm not just referring to drinking water, so competition can't arise through that. There also isn't, or can't ever really be, any revolutionary/drastically different/more efficient new way of transporting it to people's houses either. And to top it all of the initial capital investment required is huge. Also, any attempts at privatizing water before have failed, meaning that they have lead to monopolies/decreased quality/increased prices. Though I haven't really looked into them to see whether that was the Government's fault somehow with perhaps the way they were privatized etc. So if water is a market that tends towards a natural monopoly wouldn't it be best if it remained under government control, consider citizens can exert more influence to a boss that was the Government, as opposed to a private owner who holds a monopoly and whose services we can't live without?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1500732471 134531293,134562857,2017-07-22 14:11:31,>>134551247,,Anonymous,???.jpg,7jQcr7By1KIa2saIbL0BlA==,,,1500732691 134531293,134562977,2017-07-22 14:12:58,">>134562550 I don't agree that there's no room for improvement as to the way water is gathered, how its processed and how its transported. How did you come to that conclusion?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500732778 134531293,134563234,2017-07-22 14:16:05,">>134551247 >mfw antifa faggots break the NAP because they think libertarians are Nazis What a wonderful day that will be...",,Anonymous,1500626812348.jpg,tvRMg055P4PSOpO81tWTew==,US,,1500732965 134531293,134563702,2017-07-22 14:21:34,">>134562977 >How did you come to that conclusion By the fact that I either couldn't think of a better way that gathering/processing/transporting could be improved or there even being a need by the people for an improvement, therefore creating incentive for investments to be made in the grounds that there are complains/dissatisfaction with the current ""performance"" therefore demand for something better would exist for investors to make profit from satisfying. Keep in mind that the bigger initial capital invest is required, the more demand for it must exist to justify it.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1500733294 134531293,134563738,2017-07-22 14:21:58,Who builds the roads?,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500733318 134531293,134563949,2017-07-22 14:24:29,">>134563738 >roads Who needs 'em?",,Anonymous,market_forces.jpg,wZGZG7lftuzv8EcZ+Kyg8Q==,US,,1500733469 134531293,134564113,2017-07-22 14:26:26,">>134563738 Probably the same private corporations that do so today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500733586 134531293,134564145,2017-07-22 14:26:57,">>134563949 Very good, but seriously this is where I lose faith in libertarianism. Current forms of government are weak and corrupt but they still do a better job than the free market would on some things.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500733617 134531293,134564168,2017-07-22 14:27:18,">>134562474 >You're conflating the third world and an AnCap society to weasel around honest discourse. No I'm not As a casual observer of your philosophy in action, all I see is rich cunts seeking out government subsidies. They actively went to the most corrupt and authoritarian countries to make their products. Then at home, they push for mass immigration and welfare giving them a subsidized global workforce while simultaneously de-industrializing the western world",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500733638 134531293,134564216,2017-07-22 14:27:49,">>134564113 Ok so who do they send the bill to if not the government?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500733669 134531293,134564237,2017-07-22 14:28:06,">>134563702 If I find a cheaper way to process water I can undersell the competing producers, giving myself the market edge. how is there not going to be a market for cheaper water? Just because you haven't thought of how to do it doesn't mean it couldn't be thought of and engineered.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500733686 134531293,134564318,2017-07-22 14:28:57,">>134563949 >>134564113 Why even reply?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500733737 134531293,134564360,2017-07-22 14:29:33,">>134564216 They don't do it for a bill. They do it to divert traffic to their buildings and services. Customers are their bill today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500733773 134531293,134564410,2017-07-22 14:30:15,">>134564318 Because this thread needed a bump.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500733815 134531293,134564637,2017-07-22 14:33:00,">>134564360 Roads are a massive capital investment, what type of business could afford to create a whole road to its shop and still make profits in a totally free market? If you are suggesting many businesses may band together to build one how will they overcome the prisoners dilemma attached? Why not just wait until the road is built and then build beside it?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500733980 134531293,134564780,2017-07-22 14:34:43,">>134564637 Because if there's no room left for another building by the road you have to build more road.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500734083 134531293,134564820,2017-07-22 14:35:13,">>134564637 Get yourself some dirt cheap dirt roads of you're so worried.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500734113 134531293,134564866,2017-07-22 14:35:42,">>134564637 moot point the roads are already there and its obvious how maintenance is a good capital investment and very profitable",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500734142 134531293,134565243,2017-07-22 14:40:00,">>134531293 If you define value as subjective, then how can you justify libertarianism to other people? Ie. What's in for me? Some of you might remember me.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1500734400 134531293,134565274,2017-07-22 14:40:16,">>134564866 New roads will need to be built as population expands, and your argument is dependent on the assets given by the previous system, seems quite fallacious. None of you have answered the question, so I'll try a different example, a city's population has expanded rapidly and they decide they need a new bridge (loads of cities on rivers), how do they finance it, does a private company take it upon themselves to build the bridge and then charge a toll for every user?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500734416 134531293,134565381,2017-07-22 14:41:25,">>134564145 I'm actually a minarchist. I make fun of Ancaps sometimes, even though I think they're the best of all the radical political ideologies. >>134564318 bantz Ancaps need to learn to lighten up a little.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500734485 134531293,134565472,2017-07-22 14:42:37,">>134565274 Given I'm offering the most standard counter argument to libertarianism perhaps someone can save time and stick up a copy pasta to see how they defend against this. I've seen Molymeme try defend it on Joe Rogan and he was terrible desu, just admitted he had no idea.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500734557 134531293,134565533,2017-07-22 14:43:24,">>134565274 They get recreationally nuked you pussylib. In all seriousness people either buy or make what they need in Capitalism. The point of Capitalism is to address needs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500734604 134531293,134565549,2017-07-22 14:43:33,Does anyone have that pic of the snake wrapped around a Fash (axe made out of faggots),,Anonymous,,,US,,1500734613 134531293,134565906,2017-07-22 14:47:35,">>134565381 Minarchism I can understand to a degree, Irish politicians are pure cancer and don't deserve a quarter of the wage and pension they receive (nevermind brown envelopes/bribes) The EU is almost worse, one our failed politicians got a gig there, worked for 5 years and then got a 400k a year pension for his 'service'. Disgusts me incompetence is rewarded to such a degree.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500734855 134531293,134566115,2017-07-22 14:50:02,">>134565533 So you have no fucking argument. Christ at least the people who advocate for left wing tripe can actually attempt to defend their beliefs.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500735002 134531293,134566151,2017-07-22 14:50:38,Reminder to not fall for d&c leftards and newfag shitposting. hoppean libertarians are our allies in the fight against leftism,,Anonymous,,,,,1500735038 134531293,134566211,2017-07-22 14:51:14,">>134566115 >So you have no fucking argument. If overpopulation causes a problem, people it affects will build more bridges. What's so hard to understand?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500735074 134531293,134566237,2017-07-22 14:51:25,"How to achieve a libertarian society: 1. Get a young traditional wife > 2. Get a fine job > 3. Make tons of babies > 4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other) > 5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing > 6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants > 7. Privately educate your kids. Send them to good, elite, schools where they can fulfill their quest for knowledge and make great contacts. > 8. Vote, support parties/think tanks/people that want to reduce govt and degeneracy. > 9. Become a central point in your community's affairs. Know the local Father, the politicians, your neighbors, your kids' friends' parents, and so on. Invest a lot into local change. Godspeed.",,^~,prosper.jpg,clOUuQUO2KdMF+lcfKM4EA==,,,1500735085 134531293,134566297,2017-07-22 14:52:05,">>134565906 This is the problem with bureaucracy; terribly inefficient and overpriced. This is why I like the idea of the free market so much, but there are some vital functions that some form of state has to do. Everything beyond those few, vital functions should not be something the government does. I actually like the way the U.S. was originally set up, but it's become to bloated with power creep since that it's become largely impotent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500735125 134531293,134566347,2017-07-22 14:52:49,"i'm for libertarian fascism, but unironically. the state needs to exist only for protecting the society and stamping out leftist elements from degrading the libertarian social order",,Anonymous,1489791006088.jpg,+JnAHjdxQjg1t8UbRG3Ggg==,FI,,1500735169 134531293,134566802,2017-07-22 14:57:54,">>134566115 God you're dense. If there's a need people it affects will work to fix it and people it doesn't will charge to fix it themselves in a Capitalist society. Do you even understand market demand?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500735474 134531293,134566833,2017-07-22 14:58:18,>>134565549,,Anonymous,snekfashi.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1500735498 134531293,134567103,2017-07-22 15:01:21,">>134566237 Ayo wassap that one other Portuguese guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500735681 134531293,134567297,2017-07-22 15:03:33,">>134567103 sup my man",,^~,govt=dindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,,,1500735813 134531293,134567349,2017-07-22 15:04:07,">>134566211 They will yeah eventually build a road, but not the people as a whole but rather a private company will build the bridge. So we'll continue with this, the bridges are built and therefore owned by private companies. A billionaire could come along and purchase all the bridges in a city then charge tolls beyond the value of the bridges as he has a monopoly on transport across the river. You'll say, oh the people will be pissed and they'll build a new bridge then but here it all unravels, already there is waste beyond what would have occured in the presence of a government, and as soon as a company steps in to build the bridge the billionaire will cut the price and funding for the new bridge with collapse as it isn't really needed. The monopolist bankrupted his competition and can continue extracting economic rents from the people.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500735847 134531293,134567440,2017-07-22 15:05:12,Why do libertarians hate roads?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500735912 134531293,134567485,2017-07-22 15:05:40,">>134567440 Roads lead to communism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500735940 134531293,134567636,2017-07-22 15:07:33,"Libertarianism is based on a weak understanding of economics. The market isn't a god and doesn't solve all problems. Governments are bloated and corrupt today but removing them completely is even worse. Minarchism is the best you guys can argue for.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500736053 134531293,134567836,2017-07-22 15:09:57,"Foreigners are our friends. If you are against immigration, you are not a libertarian and you don't understand economics. https://youtu.be/uXMnAPGY1uE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500736197 134531293,134567941,2017-07-22 15:11:14,">>134566347 >libertarian fascism >We can have a free society so long as the government meddles in the lives of it's citizens to the point where no one will deviate at all anymore Actually just fascism. This libertarian fascism meme really should stop.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500736274 134531293,134568054,2017-07-22 15:12:21,">>134567636 libertarianism =/= anarchocapitalism Minarchists ARE libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500736341 134531293,134568190,2017-07-22 15:13:50,">>134568054 Ok fair enough, but some libertarians call for a complete removal of government and taxation, but both serve a purpose in an ideal world if not the purpose they serve today.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500736430 134531293,134568268,2017-07-22 15:14:36,">>134531293 >Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General Explain the libertarian right to me? Are you in favour of giant corporations and bumping of those who are no longer of any use to those corporations? What is the ""right"" in the libertarian right? Nationalism? Social conservatism? What?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500736476 134531293,134568317,2017-07-22 15:15:07,">>134568190 Yeah, sorry to nitpick, but I feel it's best not to muddle definitions. I don't think ancaps deserve to have the entire libertarian label.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500736507 134531293,134568628,2017-07-22 15:18:24,">>134567636 Under libertarian conditions capital firms become defacto governments. That solves your stupid ""it doesnt work"" problem. We get governments with formal power run competently. Best part is that capital has next to zero incrntive to NOT exterminate niggers and muslims. The only incrntive to let then live derives from ""humane"" vote based incentives. The problem with libertarianism is that they dont take themselves seriously enough A capital firm would have incentive to kill niggers in FOREIGN COUNTRIES and to eliminate even trace dna from extant populations Please find me a more perfect system.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500736704 134531293,134568711,2017-07-22 15:19:25,">>134566833 If we're posting AnFash flags, here's a good one.",,Anonymous,Anarcho Fascism.jpg,qAILX28QTGVBbPxWZRTLKQ==,US,,1500736765 134531293,134568721,2017-07-22 15:19:28,">>134568268 I would say the Orthodoxy of /lrg/ is Paleolibertarianism, compete removal of the state apparatus will lead to communities becoming reliant on each other, lending itself to socially conservative values. Libertarian nationalism is a part of it too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500736768 134531293,134568865,2017-07-22 15:20:58,">>134568628 What's a capital firm? Venture capital?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1500736858 134531293,134569218,2017-07-22 15:24:38,">>134568721 What are ""conservative values""?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500737078 134531293,134569510,2017-07-22 15:28:20,">>134568865 Thats just a phrase to refer to any firm eith vested or accumulated capital. Some capital firms might be composed entirely of holdings and equity, and not even operate factories None of them have any interest in letting niggers live. Holdings are maximized b the ratio of high iq individuals in ALL countries. Singapore would have a financial interest in genociding uganda in search of growth, without any racial supremacist or ideological pressure (those ideologies would be created by the financial incentive) This is ancap, essentially, in commonly understood language. Its he endpoint of libertarian thinking in the dame way communism is the endpoint of socialism. Lubertarians just dont go far enough. Like someone who believes evolution stopped woth monkeys and doesnt apply to human races. Theyre not completely stupid. Theyre less stupid than everyone else, but of course still stupider than woke channers.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500737300 134531293,134569595,2017-07-22 15:29:19,">>134569218 Standard shit you'll see among other social conservatives. family values, race realism, anti homosexually ""alternate lifestyles"" ect.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500737359 134531293,134569819,2017-07-22 15:31:59,">>134569595 Why would those values thrive in anarchism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500737519 134531293,134570117,2017-07-22 15:35:19,">>134568711 i kinda like this, how would it work though? buy like a thousand acres of land, only let high iq whites in and sign a contract upon entry or something that says you're willing to do x hours of community service or some shit? idk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500737719 134531293,134570146,2017-07-22 15:35:39,">>134569819 Not anarchism. Anarchism believes in the inherent goodness of man and believes in NO formal power Libertarianism places formal negotiation power in the hands of market forces, and thereby families and individual holdings. Family values thrive in this environment because they sre self sustaining. This barely needs explaining. If you dont have a family in ybe woods, you die. If you dont have a family in a market system, you starve. Period. Chinese without families starved 100% of the time in the premodern era.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500737739 134531293,134570236,2017-07-22 15:36:37,">>134569819 Without the welfare state to support you you'll be economically reliant on your family and immediate community. We see socialism and state intervention as the driving force of social disintegration and moral degeneration.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500737797 134531293,134570237,2017-07-22 15:36:36,">>134570146 >Anarchism believes in the inherent goodness of man [Citation needed]",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500737796 134531293,134570356,2017-07-22 15:37:59,">>134570117 Not familiar with these guys but it would almost certainly start with a group of investors as well as a molitary class. Buy land from the government, protect it with guns and miniaturixed nukes as well as a parallel currency and self sufficient market. Boom. Singapore.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500737879 134531293,134570463,2017-07-22 15:39:16,">>134567941 libertarianism by itself is unsustainable. most people are not libertarians and will try to revert the social order back to a nanny state when they are given the freedom to do so. libertarian's are in this regard their worst enemies. libertarian fascism is a pragmatic solution",,Anonymous,1487532791276.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,FI,,1500737956 134531293,134570496,2017-07-22 15:39:36,">>134570356 Lee is pretty based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500737976 134531293,134570534,2017-07-22 15:39:57,">>134570237 >strawmanning intensifies Look man if youre gonna post like that youre not making me dumber, youre making yourself dumber. Anarchism is not even remotely close to libertarianism or ancap deapite the name.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500737997 134531293,134570739,2017-07-22 15:42:09,">>134570146 No, families usually aren't self-sustaining. Families usually can't grow their own food, build their own homes, provide their own health care, etc. Markets let you not be self-sufficient. You can exchange things away to people for things you need. Why would you need a family to survive? There won't be orphanages and foster care of some kind in a libertarian society? Without child labor laws, why couldn't children find employment to support themselves?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500738129 134531293,134570769,2017-07-22 15:42:31,">>134570496 His family is succumbing to dynastic politics atm actually. But thats the beautiful part. Failure breeds death. If we have a thousand singapores it doesnt matter if one fails. The survivors will learn from the mistake or suffer the penalty of death, leaving only smart people.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500738151 134531293,134570935,2017-07-22 15:44:30,">>134570463 Ok, but that's not libertarianism. IT's JUST fascism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500738270 134531293,134571027,2017-07-22 15:45:37,">>134570739 Fucking read the definition of moral hazard before you enter these discussions The fuck is wrong with your head In a society made of nuclear familues every family must make proper decisions to remain solvent or they will die. This produces thebsurvival of the smart, and the death of idiots. The locus of survivalvis the nuclear family. Youre welcome",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500738337 134531293,134571192,2017-07-22 15:47:13,>>134531293,,Anonymous,randy_gadsden_pole_background_01.png,x+CRX3PggJEMfHXexYl3Cg==,,,1500738433 134531293,134571304,2017-07-22 15:48:38,">>134570739 You are just the cuckiest counter culture lolberg ain't ya?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500738518 134531293,134571423,2017-07-22 15:49:57,">>134571192 Smokes. Let's go, hand em over.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500738597 134531293,134571761,2017-07-22 15:54:00,">>134571027 Family isn't the only type of group that increases the survival rate and well-being of its members. There are all sorts of ways a group of individuals can arrange themselves for their mutual well-being.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500738840 134531293,134571826,2017-07-22 15:54:38,">>134570534 idk how thats a strawman but alright. i'm just saying that anarchy as a philosophy isn't inherently against any forms of order, its just against forms or structures that force people to involuntarily participate in that form or structure (and not only that alone, those systems then can more easily commit atrocities and keep them low key - like pedophile rings in masonic police rings we have today). i have no problem with communism if everyone there is there by contract and voluntary means, same for fascism, same for minarchism. whatever. i'm just saying anarchy exists as a state of MAN, not society. OBVIOUSLY there has to be some sort of system that we're all in, but whether we're there by threats of violence or voluntary means is the issue. that state of being is the ability to leave that society without being killed or hunted down or experiencing a loss in living standards. if you're going to say anarchy is against something, its the violation of the natural law rights of other beings with flesh and blood like you and i, and thus believing NOT in the goodness of man, because if an anarchist did, then we'd have no problem with a state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500738878 134531293,134572631,2017-07-22 16:03:26,">>134571761 That is true, however you are born into a family and that family will be your default safety net. Any hippy commune you have planned will never be the standard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500739406 134531293,134572876,2017-07-22 16:06:05,post comfy physical removal music,,Anonymous,,,,,1500739565 134531293,134572980,2017-07-22 16:07:19,">>134572876 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMBrLyznkJo",,Anonymous,,,,,1500739639 134531293,134573019,2017-07-22 16:07:46,">>134571761 You are being deliberately stupid or obtuse. The family is the basic unit for organizing assets and property in a way that leads to sustainable value and returns Joint stock companies are the only larger structures with enduring incentives. Any other economic formation falls apart in less than 20 years, every single time, because they cannot align incentives with production, and punish failure in a decentralized manner In a government th man with the gun decides who eats. In families and joint stock companies, intelligence decides who eats Now unfuck your head",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500739666 134531293,134573038,2017-07-22 16:07:58,">>134572876 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1500739678 134531293,134573261,2017-07-22 16:10:15,">>134571826 Without a market or authoritarian system, the man with the lareat gang and beat axes decides the order by RAPING YOUR DAUGHTER Youre an idiot if you think ending markets solves the problem of coercion Markets are the least coercive kf institutions. Anyone complaining about it has something to gain, perhaps by raping your daughter, or is a naive idiot",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500739815 134531293,134573617,2017-07-22 16:14:18,">>134573038 has molymeme made a ""Why I was wrong about physical removal"" yet?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500740058 134531293,134573711,2017-07-22 16:15:15,">>134572876 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMskjKZ4r4E",,Anonymous,,,,,1500740115 134531293,134573828,2017-07-22 16:16:55,">>134572876 Nobody wants to live in Hoppean white supremacist covenant communities. You guys wouldn't be physically removing anybody.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740215 134531293,134573968,2017-07-22 16:18:17,">>134573828 If nobody of you degenerates wants to live in our communities, there is no need for physical removal. Nature will remove you from earth itself.",,Anonymous,no step on gorilla warfare.jpg,KJWDA7FolzrE0vAeaNR3YQ==,,,1500740297 134531293,134573997,2017-07-22 16:18:35,"So free markets work if there's competition. But what about things for which there is no competition? For example, the electrical grid, the sewer system, the water supply, the roads...etc. Competition doesn't exactly work in a natural monopoly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740315 134531293,134574157,2017-07-22 16:20:16,">>134566833 >>134568711 Beautiful, thanks >>134570117 It's basically hoppean philosophy. Libertarianism is assumed by normies to be ""just do whatever dude, I don't care"". They don't forcibly remove those who would make the libertarian society possible. Remember, it's libertarian so people still pay taxes, just very little, government also has to compete with private companies so that the quality of the government services stay competitive and high. Government (in my perfect society) would be a ""private"" entity that mediate issues between people in a town going from police to muh roads and city planning. The government's sole responsibility is to protect its constituents so if war comes (which is unlikely thanks to non-interventionism) the people can voluntarily support their government for war, or whatever private defense contractor. Since they both want to protect the same people and land they will both cooperate in the war efforts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740416 134531293,134574158,2017-07-22 16:20:15,">>134573997 the only one of these which might be a 'natural' monopoly is the electrical grid, but even that is changing fast",,Anonymous,,,,,1500740415 134531293,134574312,2017-07-22 16:21:41,">>134573968 The ""socially conservative"" regions of the country are the biggest recipients of government transfer payments, dude. We wouldn't be the ones dying off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740501 134531293,134574393,2017-07-22 16:22:33,">>134574157 in a hoppean world people would live in voluntary convenant gated communities, so if people didn't follow the community's rules and guidelines and kept trying to subvert it and destroy it's hability to sustain a free society, they'd be kicked out according to the rules of the place, which they accepted when they moved there. There would be no government, he's full-ancap, you'd have private justice and stuff, and the very people in the community would kick bums, degenerates and parasites out",,Anonymous,,,,,1500740553 134531293,134574428,2017-07-22 16:22:59,">>134573828 Good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740579 134531293,134574470,2017-07-22 16:23:38,">>134574158 No. All of those are natural monopolies. Most towns only have 1 water source, 1 water purification plant, 1 interconnected system of pipes. Most places only have 1 major road leading in and out (and that's a good thing, imagine if there were 5 competing roadways between every single town, the scenery would be fucked) There is realistically only going to be 1 sewer system, and 1 sewage treatment plant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740618 134531293,134574529,2017-07-22 16:24:20,">>134574312 I am not even american.",,Anonymous,wehrmafu.jpg,DMcJdTxQOO/YSBe9ovzXtw==,,,1500740660 134531293,134574547,2017-07-22 16:24:37,">>134574312 By ""socially conservative regions"" do you mean the South where all the blacks live in the highest concentration?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740677 134531293,134574641,2017-07-22 16:25:32,">>134570935 Fascism is too totalitarian >Le good first dictator dies >new dictator comes in >REEEEEEEEEEE THATS DEGENERATE! >no freedumbs >no guns because only a degenerate would need to protect itself (Inb4 but Hitler let the Germans have guns) >Le good dictator dies >new dictator comes in >he's a money grabbing kike >the party assassinates him a la Caesar >government continues it's increasingly destabilizing tumble to collapse thanks to dictators and psychopaths trying to gain more and more power",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740732 134531293,134574768,2017-07-22 16:26:45,">>134574641 fascism doesn't have to be a dictatorship",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740805 134531293,134574778,2017-07-22 16:26:54,">>134574393 >a gated community ruled by a ""constitution"" or set of rules that dictate the acceptable behavior of its inhabitants >not a government You can put a bow on it if you want but it's still a government, my dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740814 134531293,134574847,2017-07-22 16:27:43,">>134574778 What is governance by consent of the people?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740863 134531293,134574919,2017-07-22 16:28:35,">>134574768 Oh, Hol up. Iz u sayin facsim can be libertarian. Wtf? I love libertarian fascism now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740915 134531293,134574946,2017-07-22 16:28:55,">>134574847 so to measure this consent, we need to have voting correct?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500740935 134531293,134574978,2017-07-22 16:29:14,">>134574847 >governance >govern >government I don't know. You tell me.",,Anonymous,1499914532931.jpg,qym6tkepPSiYeJt2gztvoA==,US,,1500740954 134531293,134575045,2017-07-22 16:30:02,">>134574919 have you ever read ""Starship Troopers""? that's a pretty good example of a democratic fascist system. Only those who sign up for the military and successfully complete a term of military service are eligible to vote",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500741002 134531293,134575167,2017-07-22 16:31:11,">>134574946 No, the non consenting just leave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500741071 134531293,134575182,2017-07-22 16:31:22,">>134574778 I am not a libertarian, but I would have no problem if the land you live in is privately owned by a duke, the church or Red Bull for example. The problem with modern states, especially democratic ones are that they live on robbed money and they aren't the owner of the land, it is just tyranny when a government funded by you can dictate what and what you can'T do on your property.",,Anonymous,Kancolle Takekuni Ikeda.jpg,IO5n2+/nQa2LcpxMO49F7A==,,,1500741082 134531293,134575240,2017-07-22 16:31:55,">>134574946 No. You agree to participate in a homeowners association by investing money and your livelihood. You will only invest your livelihood in a place that will be reasonably fair, punish criminals, protect the innocent, etc. If you choose poorly FUCK YOU. BE SMART. No voting necessary. People suffer the consequences of theirbown choices and they CHOOSE the conditions they want to live in while having ZERO SAY about what others do. EXACTLY LIKE A CONTRACT.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500741115 134531293,134575299,2017-07-22 16:32:36,">>134575167 so doesn't that mean that every government on earth is libertarian? Since if you don't like it, you can just leave You are giving the government your consent simply by staying",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500741156 134531293,134575445,2017-07-22 16:34:09,">>134575240 but wouldn't I want to choose a place where I can vote on local policy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500741249 134531293,134575579,2017-07-22 16:35:34,">>134575182 That sounds very libertarian to me. Sounds like Democracy by Hoppe except he points out that monarchies were historical examples of aristocracy and the natural elite.",,^~,1492006977743.png,uE384KzEevNxNqX9nD7WWw==,,,1500741334 134531293,134575605,2017-07-22 16:35:50,">>134575299 >You are giving the government your consent simply by staying as stupid as your argument is, this would really help, imagine everyone who pays taxes would jsut leave, leaving government with its welfare whores alone, it would just crumble or go full communism and close it's boarders so no one can get out anymore.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500741350 134531293,134575718,2017-07-22 16:37:07,">>134575605 But remember, in a world where all property is privately owned, you can only move to where you're invited. If you want to leave the US, you need to have another government agree to take you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500741427 134531293,134575767,2017-07-22 16:37:34,">>134575045 I fucking love starship troopers. Shit got me through army training multiple times >Tfw not in the mobile infantry This would not be so bad until we run out of people to kill and drive the military industrial complex. Once we run out of aliens or Muslims we will collapse into petty land grabs or anything to keep industry pumping out parts and driving the economy. Basically what's happening today. I'm a machinist and half the contracts in my factory are government, military aerospace or things that go into other things for government contracts. I picture a libertarian fascist government able to mold to what is necessary at the moment, it could be a hoppean anarchy with little government taxation or transform itself into a gigantic, unstoppable war machine if necessary. But honestly, I would have no problem living in either one. Having something worthy of dyeing for is priceless, if a Democratic fascist society happens, as long as what I'm fighting for is worthy, I'll die for it.",,Anonymous,cityfight.jpg,4X2aCHJZ8mq45XCNN1Vudg==,US,,1500741454 134531293,134575935,2017-07-22 16:39:14,">>134575445 If you believe voting systems improve quality of life, yes. People move to singapore, not to the philippines. So that should tell you which system produces better results. White and north asian people NEVER choose to move to democracies. They ALWAYS move to places with less democracy",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500741554 134531293,134575961,2017-07-22 16:39:33,,,Anonymous,1498474840453.png,JPnrB5WbQ5f1YFqXWuXB2w==,DE,,1500741573 134531293,134575981,2017-07-22 16:39:52,">>134575579 Hoppe is great. and since we have no nobles or aristocracy anymore, ancapistan is the best way to get back to an aristocracy, because they have to earn their status through work and smart choices, they will become natural authorities in the end. PS: why does burkas count as dress in the captcha?",,Anonymous,sneki.png,8IPfxC7ZIimsg8zZ1sytmg==,,,1500741592 134531293,134576032,2017-07-22 16:40:21,">>134575767 Think about this, what purpose is there to life if there are no enemies to fight? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcjEKt-l0IM Peace sucks. If we run out of enemies, we'll split society in two and fight with each other.",,Anonymous,02ce0133974f9256dc547d5e9ab15425.jpg,PXPFumXO2RZkrrtWQcKyfA==,US,,1500741621 134531293,134576058,2017-07-22 16:40:45,">>134575182 This robbed fake money (debt) only happens when the government allows it. Bubbles happen naturally, but they pop early once people realize the size of it. People saw the bubble of 08 coming in 99 and everyone ignored it because the government kept allowing (forced sometimes) the banks to give out whatever loans they wanted to whoever they wanted. If there were no nanny state to catch you, would you loan Jamaal with a - 500 credit score take out a 350,000 loan on a Bentley with 23"" rims?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500741645 134531293,134576098,2017-07-22 16:41:09,">>134575718 >If you want to leave the US, you need to have another government agree to take you I know, but this also negates your argument that staying is consenting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500741669 134531293,134576363,2017-07-22 16:43:44,">>134574470 you're taking it for granted that these things need to be done in a central place instead of being distributed people could sell energy via generators, or have larger plants competing maybe not for each individual customer, but for groups of customers or even cities roads are the easiest to deal with, and many were privately built for many years, especially in the US, same for railroads you just need to build another road there and charge less for it's use, or more realistically provide alternative mediums of transportation, after all railroads, boats and roads can compete with one another to provide transportation, since that's what's offered, not just a piece of land where you can drive. Cities would likely just build roads by themselves (as cooperatives or joint ventures between citizens) and people would compete to manage them. Waste does not need to be centrally dealt and work with pipes and sewers. IIRC some parts of the world, where there is no proper traditional sewage, people deal with it like they deal with trash, collecting it in every home and disposing of it with cars. People can have septic tanks where they throw their sewer, or even more efficient and better onsite sewage facilities (OSSF) and companies can just collect the waste tehre and throw it away after they're full. I think this is how people who live in trailer-park cities do it, after all their trailers are not connected to a sewer system. Same is true for water. Even in some third world countries people are allowed to build water wells and sell whatever they don't use. During most of my life we couldn't just drink tapwater or filter water that came from pipes like they do in the US, so we bought our own water in big recipients, 20L each. You just have to buy one or two and they can last a month.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500741824 134531293,134576397,2017-07-22 16:44:02,">>134576363 Same can be done for bathing water, but in larger quanitties. You can collect whatever you can from the rain, have wells connected to your home (after treating it properly, which can be done in your own home) or buy water (and store it yourself, in proper tanks, to last a while) from water-trucks that regularly go to certain places. That's how people do it in some dry areas, with no natural rivers and shit. You could buy it to your own home or together with neighbors, in a communal source of water. Electricity is still harder to produce like this, but it could easily be done using technology like photovoltaic plates and batteries, or, on a more promising way: I dunno if you're aware, but there are already bilateral energy grids, where not only can you receive energy, but send it back. Currently most countries only allow people to sell excess energy (that they produce with generators, photovoltaically, etc) back to their provider, but in the future could be changed to a system where several enterprising people produce their own energy at home, and sell whatever they don't need (or just produced to sell) to other people in the same grid. In this case at most the grid operator would have to work as a market place, more like a stock market where people buy and sell energy than a company which sells energy. Not all of these options were always available, although some were, but as time goes on this will only become more and more common.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500741842 134531293,134576474,2017-07-22 16:44:48,">>134575981 Work is slavery Ancap is greay because it mandates caste and authority People dont need to work to prove they are better. They ARE better and thus have the status and money to do the work that will improve society A permanent caste divide (exceptbfor talented individuals) is what thebinduatrial revolution was built on I dont want to have to compete alongside idiots by reading one fish 2 fish in high school. I am better. Let me do what i need to do and stpp wasting my time",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500741888 134531293,134576840,2017-07-22 16:48:42,">>134574778 Not at all. I didn't even mention a constitution, only rules. I lived with my parents for several years, and followed their rules, but this wasn't a government, it didn't steal money from me or had the power to kill me, or even the monopoly of force. I didn't mention any parliament, mayor or anything like this, for example, with power over others. I'm not even ancap but you're not up to date with what they're proposing at all. A government has power over me whether I like it or not, it can use force against me I can't use against it, and can rule over me without my consent. This isn't the case in a covenant community, which could be as small as two persons, by the way. The only problem with covenant communities, as with many other things in libertarianism, arises when we think about children.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500742122 134531293,134576851,2017-07-22 16:48:51,">>134576474 didn't mean manual labour by work. and don't take me wrong I don't think a real leader can work his way from bottom to top, he should legitimized by godly descent, or at least his ancestry. But is the best way to raise our society to the level where it is worth to be ruled.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500742131 134531293,134576883,2017-07-22 16:49:14,">>134576032 Absolutely agree. But what do we fight for? Do we not fight to maintain a peaceful land for families? We funded isis to kill them. Why make fake enemies? Wouldn't it be better to create space fairing vessels and then allow ourselves to become our own enemies, striving for better ships, better tech etc. It's what happened during the space race in the cold war, if it weren't for ""peaceful"" war competition we would not have made it to the moon. I want Trump to find one of those random meteorites full of gold or random minerals that are valued at 25 trillion dollars and just say ""believe me, the age of space pacifism is over. We will acquire NA-5219 and we will bring it over to the United States to build a better America, a better infrastructure and a better society. So true, we need it, believe me. Starting today at 5:00 Am NASA will start construction on our magnificent space elevator, we will build a moon base by the time my administration is over and it will all be under budget and ahead of schedule."" That would rile the fuck out of the whole planet. China, India, France, the UK, Russia would all piss their pants and start a gigantic space race once more.",,Anonymous,maxresdefault (34).jpg,YPe5VdArXmCdT0IFLtoXdw==,US,,1500742154 134531293,134577132,2017-07-22 16:51:53,">>134575445 why would it have ""policy"" at all? most things deemed to be ""policy"" are completely irrelevant or do not need government meddling at all. If people wanted a democracy, they could have it, and kick out undemocratic people, but if people didn't want it (and historically, democracy is not the norm, and is not even what people value the most either, that being stability and wealth), they wouldn't have it (see Singapore, an authoritarian state in all but name).",,Anonymous,,,,,1500742313 134531293,134577336,2017-07-22 16:53:55,">>134576883 I think we need war. We are bred for war, over the aeons. That feeling of your blood boiling as you charge the enemy is what real living is all about. It gives our lives purpose, and makes us all strive to be better. It's beautiful. If you love a young man, give him a battle to fight. One where he might die, but with great rewards waiting. The society we have right now is desperate for war. We've been peaceful for too long. The deadwood is piling up in our city streets and our welfare halls. It would be a great cleansing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m4IZw4l0G4",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500742435 134531293,134577417,2017-07-22 16:54:54,">>134576851 No. We create our ideal society by killing filth Asking thebgreat to ""work their way out"" of a shitty society is like a progressive tax on prosocial and nonpsychipathic behavior. Upper castes do not ""endure"" the slaves. They should kill the slaves and harness them as capital assets. Working geniuses to deathbin office jobs is racial suicide",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500742494 134531293,134577440,2017-07-22 16:55:09,">>134575981 the natural state of mankind is patriarchal and aristocratic democracy like we have today is the exception whenever society collapses, the new ones that grow in it's place will be far more traditional than similar to the progressive weirdness that we have today, even if they do have some democracy, they'll have influential families and people who work as a natural elite",,Anonymous,,,,,1500742509 134531293,134577561,2017-07-22 16:56:23,">>134577336 speaking of war, what would happen if muslims in germany kill some american soldiers there?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500742583 134531293,134577759,2017-07-22 16:58:48,">>134576840 What the fuck is a constitution if not a set of rules. >but it's for government stating what it can and can't do. OK, but then who enforces these rules? What stops your democratically elected body of rules from being exploited by mob rule? What happens when your gated community becomes a city thanks to huge innovation and money generation. What happens when a retarded idea takes over the land and they all make churches illegal for example. Hey, 63% agreed to remove churches so it must be fine. This gated community is just as fallible as any institution, including private or public to corruption, or at least dishonest behavior. >a Gov't has power over me whether I like it or not Let's say a bunch of soccer moms in your gated community organize and make cigarettes illegal. It was a rule legally reached by concensus of 60%+, most people don't smoke so they don't care about your rights and muh air quality. Now you can't smoke cigs >B-but they're degenerate Where does it stop?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500742728 134531293,134577882,2017-07-22 17:00:02,">>134577417 >Asking thebgreat to ""work their way out"" that's not what I've said, I said we commoners have to raise our society so it is worth the aristocracy. >>134577440 the natural state of mankind is patriarchal and aristocratic agree",,Anonymous,,,,,1500742802 134531293,134578235,2017-07-22 17:03:43,">>134577336 We do need war. But we need to also survive it. This planet isn't big enough for war anymore. One single dirty bomb, not even a nuke. One single computer error (see the film failsafe (2000 edition is good, absolutely awesome film)) and the whole globe is out. Say France is being invaded again, oh no, they're about to lose, let's nuke the planet, we're going to lose anyways, there is no more MAD. We NEED to get the fuck out of this rock ASAP before we blow ourselves sky high. I completely agree with your statement of needing war. This will never end and there is some sort of poetic beauty to war, but both sides need to survive it. Even when Rome conquered it's enemies they didn't assassinate every single last citizen of the defeated land, we didn't do the same to the Indians, none of the European nations did this during their medieval wars. Mass Ethnic cleansing is too easy thanks to nukes. TL;DR muh nukes, we need to leave the planet, now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500743023 134531293,134578585,2017-07-22 17:07:16,"The real problems with ancapistan, I think, are these: 1. The External Threat 2. The Effect of Children To explain 1: If the entire world wasn't ancap, you could always have the (mostly small) ancap communities being crushed or oppresed by outside powers. We see in history how hard is to small countries and people's to survive. The ones that do are always either protected by geography (something less relevant every day), too irrelevant for anyone to bother (no natural wealth, non-strategic position, no military threat, too expensive to justify taking it for the small benefits gained, etc) or provide a benefit to larger powers (like being a tax haven where corrupt leaders wash the money they steal from their people before they spend it on their whores). A singel Mohammad-like figure could take out at least half of ancapistan, if they failed to organize proper defenses, and we know it's hard to organize several different polities to act together against a more unified and powerful agressor. The non-muslim tribes got BTFO and conquered, and even the greeks and italians eventually were unified in a country either by force or necessity. The second problem, 2: Even if every adult that moves into a covenant community agrees to it's rules, how do we deal with his children? Do we let the parents bind their children to certain rules, as the ones responsible for them? Do we just let them stay while they are children and kick them out if they refuse to accept the rules after they grow up? How do we prevent children from being subverted and not kicked out? Most parents wouldn't want to send their kids out, and if enough kids join some retarded movement (see the 60s for example, or today), do you kick all of them out, or do you let your community just die of old age?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500743236 134531293,134578698,2017-07-22 17:08:37,">>134577336 Also, I like this one better. Weaboo music is too gay. https://youtu.be/7XmDYJBZZdc This could work too https://youtu.be/L_XDHRPvdEQ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500743317 134531293,134578867,2017-07-22 17:10:22,">>134577561 Nothing. C'mon dude. Get creative >what happens if 5 armed Muslims with AKs, bullet proof vests and 6 mags each plan a siege on one of the many bases in Germany Now THAT'S a fucking trigger if I've ever seen one. Trump would probably carpet bomb the whole place if more than 10 die.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500743422 134531293,134579052,2017-07-22 17:12:09,">>134578235 Or we could accept life in the wasteland. It might not even be so bad",,Anonymous,fallout 3.jpg,zE4VveH9ze08isMh1GJttw==,US,,1500743529 134531293,134579096,2017-07-22 17:12:34,">>134578585 And what about those who say they agree with the rules, but do not, and do not pass the values necessary for the community's survival to their own children? After enough time passes, you'll have a large mass of fifth-columnists ready to destroy your community from the inside out. That's why I think ancapistan would eventually fall, mostly, and be only a temporary stage of human civilization. >>134577759 If everyone agrees with it, the people in a place, or someone hired by them (which answers to them, not the other way around) can do it. Do gated communities and buildings not kick out unruly tenants? Are they a government? Is a landlord like a president? >a bunch of soccer moms in your gated community organize and make cigarettes illegal. How? It doesn't matter what the consensus is. They can only do it if the contract I signed to live there says they can do it, if not they can get fucked. You're still thinking in terms of government without even trying to understand the situation. There is not necessarily a legislative, executive and judicial branch, or a bunch of dumb laws or regulations. If women in Chyna decide to ban something, can they do it? No. Neither could they in a covenant community where this wasn't agreed upon, and they would largely not try to do so, given that they decided to live in a place where this is allowed. If they want to live in a smoke-less place, that's their prerogative, but the rules would have to state that, and the people who lived there would have to consent to it. How are they gonna do this in a place where people are self-selected and against it, where they do not have the monopoly of force?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500743554 134531293,134579130,2017-07-22 17:12:56,">>134578585 Good post.",,^~,based-prince.jpg,hhNa5wk8/y1G8HADp4IZag==,,,1500743576 134531293,134579163,2017-07-22 17:13:22,">>134578235 We need war moreso because military aristocracies force truthfulness in bureaucracies from the very bottom to the very top Ancient China was a bureaucracy and it invented social justice and obtuse regulations and multiculturalism Europe and japan were military aristocracies and created efficient government, elimated corruption, lean institutions, truthfulness, and in the case of whites modern science. It has nothing to do with the spirit of ear. That is just the origin myth for idiot plebs.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500743602 134531293,134579177,2017-07-22 17:13:29,">>134578867 I don't think 5 armed muslim can siege an us base, but what if the muslims get shot by the US soldiers instead and merkel police raids the base because of hate crimes and they seize american rifles, so no more muzzies get harmed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500743609 134531293,134579284,2017-07-22 17:14:26,">>134578698 Everyone knows Rising is best metal gear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fl27wKaGFw",,Anonymous,metal gear threads.jpg,RjUlSHvWgvZkRGY4g6OAJw==,US,,1500743666 134531293,134579285,2017-07-22 17:14:27,">>134579130 I love this guy, I'm reading his book right now. Most based world leader",,Anonymous,,,,,1500743667 134531293,134579342,2017-07-22 17:15:04,">>134578585 Vectored diseases that target genomes eill make that all moot. The only real threat to global stability via nukes are israel india and pakistan. Just create a disease that kills them and ancapistan can thrive.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500743704 134531293,134579477,2017-07-22 17:16:38,">>134579052 :) The US would be completely and absolutely uninhabitable for the next millennia. No crops, no drinkable water and that's just places like Kentucky or Nebraska that get minimal nukes. The only habitable places left would be Africa, papau new guinea and Brazil (the Amazon, the cities would probably be gone too) I wish nukes washed away like they do in fall out. Why fight a war where the only death you get to witness is your own preceded by a bright flash.",,Anonymous,hqdefault (34).jpg,aEIVDG8j4V/muWB0/P+IZQ==,US,,1500743798 134531293,134579621,2017-07-22 17:18:03,">>134579284 Rising was unironically the best metal gear after 2 Rising goes full technocommeecialist singularity Its actually some pretty heavy stuff. People are just too dumb to see through it. The same people that hated rising hated 2. Even 4 had good stuff in it. You could just tell kojima was saying fuck you to the people who disliked 2.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500743883 134531293,134579657,2017-07-22 17:18:19,">>134579177 Even the attempt, let's say they can't even get past the gate. Just the attempt would be enough to tell Germany and the EU that enough is enough and just remove all the kebab out of Europe.",,Anonymous,31c5c362681e34f6bf2e47291ee1e0a9.png,McXDYmgeNPa/LkcpHuHgqQ==,US,,1500743899 134531293,134579830,2017-07-22 17:20:05,">>134579657 Let's all pray for a happening, imagine how all those brave lefties will shit their pants when merica threatens to step in when they don't stop the muslim problem.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500744005 134531293,134579905,2017-07-22 17:20:44,">>134579342 How do you prevent a man appearing, getting a fuck ton of followers, building his forces and conquering other places though? I'm not sure decentralized, private forces would be enough to do so, especially if the guy is operating in a place where he has power (say, another country, outside ancapistan). I'm still reading the ancap book on defense tho, but I'm not finding it convincing. I think that people in Ancapistan would only wake up to Mohammad conquering other cities when it gets too late >>134579477 most nuclear war predictions have bascially the entire northern hemisphere BTFO and everywhere else safe (no reason to nuke argentina, brazil, nigeria, etc) But the amazon is an awful place to live, filled with killer insects, diseases, hard to move (not even horses, too dense), hard to build (need to keep cutting trees down), hard to navigate (without good equipment, that is), soil unfit for agriculture, etc See this for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta There's a reason no one lives in these places.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500744044 134531293,134579939,2017-07-22 17:21:05,">>134579096 >everyone agrees OK, hold on. Describe me all the laws of your gated community. I actually want to understand your point of view. How does a ""no littering"" ordinance get passed? How would it be enforced? Who enforces it? Please answer these.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500744065 134531293,134580091,2017-07-22 17:22:34,">>134531293 I want authoritarianism to use the power of the state to crush the commies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500744154 134531293,134580253,2017-07-22 17:24:17,">>134579163 Elaborate further on your China vs the West idea works. How exactly does a military driven government/society eliminate corruption? Can't smith & wesson pay off a general to run for Congress for example? Would this not drive the general to prefer Smith & wesson M16 contracts over Colt?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500744257 134531293,134580256,2017-07-22 17:24:17,">>134579905 >I think that people in Ancapistan would only wake up to Mohammad conquering other cities when it gets too late Yes, I think it would be like in europe when the muslims came, you had many small state and city states, but they all got together after time, but battlefields move much faster today, so you can't negotiate 2 months what to do when they come.",,Anonymous,neetsquad.jpg,roqF/KrZm6pfJVWMLpWm/w==,,,1500744257 134531293,134580368,2017-07-22 17:25:23,">>134579284 Muh nanomachines Only good games make great memes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500744323 134531293,134580370,2017-07-22 17:25:23,">>134579905 Force of personality cannot accumulate or properly allocate capital. Zealots tend to be the stupidest and least productive individuals It would be like assembling an army of nigerians with machetes to assault the pentagon",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500744323 134531293,134580532,2017-07-22 17:26:51,">>134579905 I'd rather live in the Amazon than in a nuked shithole. But I see your point. Obviously if Sao Paulo isn't nuked it'd be better to live there. You get to remove favelas too!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500744411 134531293,134580576,2017-07-22 17:27:19,">>134579830 Plz God make this happen.",,Anonymous,delete.jpg,JLLcSAiO6UhKaL3uYP4xaA==,US,,1500744439 134531293,134580935,2017-07-22 17:30:52,">>134580253 It goes deeper than that Societies with military aristocracies over iterated ""games"" settle on the optimal strategy which is everyone tells the truth, if you lie, you are executed, and you dont pass lying genes to thr next generation Failure in a military campaign leads to catastrphic loss kf capital. When mere lies can wipe out 50 years of capital gains, you have a strong incentive at every level tk kill liars and promote success Ancient china was very similar to an ancient version of the eu. Everyone in china was ""equal"" and so they used political correctness to cover up failures of minority groups. Bureaucraciesbhave multiple faolure points so fingers et pointed and even a dictator spreads out blame inappropriately as a negotiated solution. Military heirarchies have singular and easily identifiable points of failure. Failure can eb punished and the organization can improve. There are no interest groups ot 'laws' to follow. It is not china vs the west. It is hina vs the west and japan, very clearly illustrated",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500744652 134531293,134581005,2017-07-22 17:31:34,">>134580256 This. What happened in Spain and Italy (interbreeding between muds and Mediterranean whites) would not happen today. News of the village 50 miles away getting invaded would take weeks to get to your village and by then it will be too late. Now the news would take minute and everyone could be ready to defend or even create an offensive. At most a quarter the women would be raped instead of all of them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500744694 134531293,134581201,2017-07-22 17:33:31,">>134580576 kill them all and their commie government, but in reality no one of those antifags and degenerates there will fight, they will just clap and surrender and tell you how great america is, don't let them fool you. but the muslims will fight you so you can have a war anyway.",,Anonymous,everycountry is murica.jpg,e3vhzHPO2NBMsU0d2vTvTg==,,,1500744811 134531293,134581703,2017-07-22 17:38:14,">>134580935 >a society mortally dependent on truth and integrity I like this. And like you said, these are things inherent in the military. You lie about a simple thing as where you parked the humvee and you get utterly BTFO. What you described is basically Pax Romana Rome before the circus, currency manipulation and degeneracy. >even a dictator spreads blame This is a thing that Naziboos won't accept. Hitler was infallible and he dindu nuffin. Fix your grammar, nigger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500745094 134531293,134581862,2017-07-22 17:39:48,">>134579939 These are voluntary communities. People don't go live there if they disagree with their principles, and those who do agree explicitly to them. If they disagree, they're removed. You're failing to understand these people are self-selected. You don't get raging feminists in Lancaster passing laws to force amish women to wear pants and be bulldykes, because the people who'd want this dont go live there, and the minority that does is kicked out. Could work in several different ways, like in an actual gated community, with it's own rules. If the amish create a private community and have as a rule ""no fancy clothes"", and will only accept as members those who accept those rules, why would you expect a large number of people to be able to change this? And why would they need legislation on this? It could just be agreed when moving in that this is a rule, a culturally enforced rule, by private and civil institutions (it's perfectly legal to be a divorced translesbian in Lancaster, for example, but it's shunned upon by society, and people who'd want to live like this 1. wouldn't want to live there 2. are told to leave). And why would they necessarily need an ""ordinance""? You're still thinking in terms of state legislation and shit. Think more along the lines of tenants and property, an association of proprietors and community tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property. Or think about forums and online communities, which create their own rules which people need to accept in order to participate. I can't claim a forum is a state for kicking me out after violating their rules that I accepted myself. Now compare this to the chinese government just banning sites and letting no one participate, whether they like it or not. Or a church excommunicating heretics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500745188 134531293,134581870,2017-07-22 17:39:51,">>134581005 But the thing is muslims can also move quicker and overrun you and in the case of ancapistan you must have an army already prepared for fast response, there will be no time to negotiate with other property owners who joins the fight and who takes part in which operation. Here we have voluntarily organized firefightes on the countryside, this could be a possible system for fast response units for ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500745191 134531293,134581997,2017-07-22 17:41:05,">>134581862 One example would be moving to the woods with friends, and everyone agreeing to abide by certain principles (let's say you're all muslims, so: no drinking, no faggotry, no trannyism, no showing your face if you're awoman). You also agree that anyone who deviates from the purposes of this community will be kicked out, and the terms of his kicking out (if he needs a majority of people to agree with it, if anyone can kick him out, if he needs to pay something or take his shit with him, etc). If one of your friends decides that he might look like a Mohammad, but he's actually a Fatima, and won't even use a burka, he would obviously be kicked out for breaking the rules he himself agreed to follow, and since everyone in that community agreed to follow these rules, I doubt there would be much of an outcry against it, or any chance he gets to force others to accept his change. If they get someone to manage things, create new rules (and how they are created), terms of kicking people out, terms of what they can and cannot doo, etc, this would all need to be in the initial contract, just like a company's charter establishes all these things for it's associates (what they can and cannot do, when it can dissolve, who can be kicked out, if there's a vote and how, etc). If you choose poorly, well, that's your problem. See a brief description of what Hoppe meant here, to see how such a world would operate: http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/05/hoppe-on-covenant-communities/ I posted what I think are some problems above, but this isn't the same as a governemnt",,Anonymous,,,,,1500745265 134531293,134582028,2017-07-22 17:41:34,"Can you please go fuck these people up? >>134576786 >>134576786",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500745294 134531293,134582104,2017-07-22 17:42:16,">>134581201 No, I actually believe they will fight but not honestly. Soros will pay them off as he did in the Ukraine. They will start seeing their friends dyeing and one of two things will happen. They will see shit has officially hit the fan, harden up and actually fight or they will run and cower like the cucks they are. I'm betting on #2. I hope I get deployed to Berlin.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500745336 134531293,134582253,2017-07-22 17:43:41,">>134580370 It worked just fine for several groups in the past. Do you think the Cartels wouldn't be able to fuck some mexican ancap-cities with their own cartel-run dystopias? It's one thing saying they just can't do it, but they did to it several times in the past. And in this scenario there is no pentagon, unless it's somehow private (otherwise it isn't ancapistan) Even worse, the pentagon could be the cult. See the Taiping Rebellion for example. One lil nigga who thought he was Jesus' brother managed to defeat the Qing and have his own empire for a decade. How much more success could he have in ancapistan?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500745421 134531293,134582627,2017-07-22 17:47:12,">>134574312 we're talking about individuals, not ""regions"" aka twisting the data until it seems conservatives are the biggest welfare recipients",,Anonymous,11418458446.png,a/XNkHQCmZ9vj3H0R9za6w==,,,1500745632 134531293,134582666,2017-07-22 17:47:31,">>134582104 I was having this discussion with a friend when the antifags chimped out at the g20, I said if the police or a shopowner just shot one of those kids dead they would just run scared, but in teh case they would kill a muslim they would start to actively join the fight and with more than just stones. I think the only germans who will actually fight will be the bundeswehr which may just surrenders because after all the humiliation the merkelgov did to them I don't think their generals are willing to send their men to war for a shitty government which treated them like shit. and the other group of germans will be patriots who loves everything about their current system, except the mass immigration.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500745651 134531293,134582946,2017-07-22 17:50:18,">>134582253 cartels are strongest in places with stringent gun laws the taiping rebellion was so long ago that it was still in the age of offensive>defensive but today, after numerous red team blue team exercises, things are radically different",,Anonymous,,,,,1500745818 134531293,134583407,2017-07-22 17:55:37,">>134582253 Mexicans are fucking stupid No, i dont think nigger or abo scientist ancaps would atand a chance against machete butchers I also want everyone who is mot white or northern asian to dir or be slowly phasedbout I dont gove a fuck if ancap works for niggers. It works for us. Just like acience works FOR US. Thats all tht matters Taiping is different because it was a proto socialist movement coming out of a low iq province rebelling against a bloated bureaucracy in the age of sharp sticks I dont think stock marketsbwould have worked back then either but not because stock markets are unworkable",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500746137 134531293,134583817,2017-07-22 17:59:55,">>134581862 >people don't go live there if they disagree with their principles Very well, but don't societies change? What you're talking about is a voluntary miniarchy. Correct? What if rules change and due to the degeneracy ordinance that prevent you from doing things in your private property inside the community you no longer can do X? Do you just accept it? I don't like this. I don't like others telling me what to do or not to do, but like you said. It's voluntary so I can leave if I'm not willing to obey (Oy vey, sure sounds a lot like anarchy here, right goy?) >the people who want this don't go there/are not allowed there This would easily fix my problem accepting your ideal community (how do other ideas enter the community and force it to implement new regulations) the problem here is that the Internet would allow for degeneracy or strange ideas to enter the community (nihilism or atheism for example) >why would they need an ordinance How do you state cultural norms and customs? You can't just think them up every time you have to talk about it, it's gotta be on paper. What if the Amish from Abraham St only like Brown colonial clothing while those in main St only allow those wearing black (I know, stupid analogy but it's a quick example) disagreements could arise and Balkanise the community over petty norms (see the Christian Church during the protestant revolution). Like the other anon stated when we were talking about war, people love to fight over shit, specially petty shit. If an agreement is reached over what the culture of the community is then things will be much less abrasive. If we didn't have a constitution in the US where it said we get to keep guns and that guns are an inherent part of American life we would have lost them loooooong ago. OK we need an agreement on paper. Who gets to decide what goes in and where ... You guessed it, in ""government office"" I've been to very very small towns, towns of 500 people and they don't get much 1/2",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500746395 134531293,134584034,2017-07-22 18:01:57,">>134583817 >>134581862 2/2 You guessed it, in a ""government office"" I've been to very very small towns, towns of 500 people and they don't get much government assistance whatsoever, yet they still have their voluntary town halls where they talk and discuss their issues. If there were no federal government, if we entered a civil war tomorrow that town would not find out about it at all and not even care because of how self sustainable is thanks to how they all agree and regulate their civil issues. This is what government was supposed to be. Tiny and efficient.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500746517 134531293,134584075,2017-07-22 18:02:26,">>134581862 I didn't want to pelt you with a gigantic wall of text but this is an interesting conversation, thanks for being part of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500746546 134531293,134584267,2017-07-22 18:04:19,">>134582946 >>134583407 In an ancap world cartels could be barbarians with their won fiefs, I'm not thinking here of a group of drugdealers inside a community fucking it up, but of savage thugs forming their own communities with authoritarian rule and violence, just as they did several times through history, and ending up with an army large enough to conquer some other more peaceful communities. In the long run we might just end up seeing what we saw in the past, some thugs taking control of more and more land, and peopel managing to get concessions out of their ancestors with time, ending up with some sort of constitutional government. It'd be a second chance, of course, but I'm not sure why history wouldn't jus repeat itself. Free states would need to constantly fight for their survivor and win several battles, while thugs just need to win one to take control. And in this scenario you wouldn't even have the Qing, just a bunch of (mainly small) communities vs a large army of crazy peasants. They might fall in the end (like the Taiping did since their policies were retarded), but they could still do a lot of damage. Same could happen in several places. Cartels were jut an example. There's nothing stopping the Italian mafia from having it's own expansionist state, or neighboring muslim states from fucking with their ancap neighbors. How do you see covenant communities protecting themselves from external aggression?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500746659 134531293,134584564,2017-07-22 18:07:15,">>134581997 How are rules enforced by the people rather than the government not governance. Rules are still enforced. People gotta get paid to remove the scum that won't leave. If you have a nigger tenant that's selling drugs out of your apartment you don't kick him out yourself, you call the cops. If you have a shitty, unruly neighbor being a tranny you don't go yourself to kick him out, you're a taxi driver (for example), you don't know how to fight or shoot guns. You gotta call the exterminator. And if 99.99% of the community obeys the rules there will be no sustainable way to make an extermination company whose sole purpose is to remove gays or whatever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500746835 134531293,134585401,2017-07-22 18:16:38,">>134581870 That's exactly why I don't like Ancapistan®, I like a fascist libertarian society that can inpose taxes immediately when necessary. Some of you here might get triggered at the thought but look at Americans in 1939, no one wanted anything to do with war at all, yet the day after pearl Harbor every man, woman and child wanted blood. (yes I know it was a ""false flag""). If the same thing where to happen in Fascist Ancapistan the government could flex immediately, take over/cooperate with private defense contractors and deal with the issue. The insane demand for defense ordnance would make factories switch from commercial to defense manufacture immediately. This has to be an inherent part of the society. For example Israel, every man and woman(I disagree with this one, but ok) has to go through some army training once they turn 18. I want a society sort of like Chile with pinochet. Pinochet removed commie and resigned. Same with that Roman Emperor who stepped down twice after the degeneracy was dealt with. Same as how George Washington stepped down. After the war is decisively won the government must step down. In my opinion we should have kept marching east after Germany was defeated, completely destroy Russia and then return home once the threat has been eliminated. It's like that general (I'm really bad with names) who adviced to nuke all commie countries (China Russia etc) right after the Japanese bombs were dropped. We were the only country with the tech at the time. We could have prevented the cold war and Vietnam, probably even the middle east bullshit we have now (Russia funded proxies to fuck with us during 70s-90s)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500747398 134531293,134585434,2017-07-22 18:17:03,">>134583817 Again, if rules change, they change withing the bounds the contract you signed allowed them to change, and you can't complaim. You don't get to move into a jewish state, sign their jewish laws and them go around larping as Odin, you need to exercise common sense. Yes, if you live in a place where you explicitly accept they can create rules forcing you to change the way you live, tough luck. Nobody forced you to join that city. If people in a community had disagreements, they'd either have to live with this difference, or if the terms they accepted gave power over other people to impose new rules, leave. You're still inside thinking very inside the government's box. Covenant communities have contracts, not constitutions. If I decide I want to change the way a company is organized, and I don't have the power to do so under the terms which I agreed to follow, then I either fuck off or just deal with it. If people want to have a town hall, OK, but everyone who lives there has to first agree with these rules and waht the townhall can do, while if you live in a community whose contract includes no townhall and doesn't let peopel impose new rules, and if they want to do so, them fuck them. If me and my neighbors decide we want to ban red curtains, but the other neighbors in the other floors don't want to do so, what happens, nowadays? First we check what the contract says, and if someone get's frustrated for not being able to change something like he wants, then boohoo, should have gone to another community. You'd have a very hard time moving to an amish covenant community, voluntarely signing the community's contracts and accepting the framework under which it operates and then trying to make shit up as you go and trying to change it by yourself, especially when eveyrone there was self-selected and went there because they like the rules.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500747423 134531293,134585450,2017-07-22 18:17:21,">>134585434 There's no live-and-let live and ""alternative lifestyles must be tolerated"" bullshit in a world where private property-based communities are the rules. This is liberal kukery that can only exist with a big government forcing everyone to accept bullshit and giving everyone the power over others. If people want they can create their homo community where non-gay sex is mandatory, that's their problem, but likewise normal people can create normal communities. If people change their opinion with time, they can change the terms of their contracts (following what's set in that contract iself), and if they can't change it and force their opinions on others, they can just leave. This is the origin of the physical removal meme. If I and fellow-minded people create a community to protect our private property and our lifestyle, and someone does not want to follow our rules, he isn't allowed in. And if he VOLUNTARELY signs up to live according to these rules, and them breaks them, he will be physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500747441 134531293,134585520,2017-07-22 18:18:19,">>134582666 That would be grounds for a coup. A military coup. Man, like Alex Jones says. ""what a time to be alive""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500747499 134531293,134585592,2017-07-22 18:19:11,">>134584267 Cartel states dont produce economic value. Economic value isnt just money. Itbis the promotion of non retards The mafia can only control italy because itbis a democracyvand the mafia camt be assassinated Cartel states cannot pay wages to incrntovize someone to risk theirblifr. They cant buy highbgrad military equipment without selling drugs to hogh wage americans AND simultaneously have the legal protection of that same government AND prdate off a democratic government Looj at china, singapore, japan. Everyone who was part of a cartel is DEAD. Cartels cannot stand against a modern state.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500747551 134673557,134673557,2017-07-23 14:36:30,">""The state is an institution run by gangs of murderers, plunderers, and thieves, surrounded by willing executioners, propagandists, sycophants, crooks, liars, clowns, charlatans, dupes, and useful idiots — an institution that dirties and taints everything it touches"" - Hans Hermann-Hoppe This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 REQUIRED READING: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >FURTHER READING: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads THREAD THEME: >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - KILL EM ALL LET THE MARKET SORT EM OUT,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,,,1500820590 134673557,134673581,2017-07-23 14:36:43,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1500820603 134673557,134673912,2017-07-23 14:40:28,">RACE! THAT MURRAY BOOK https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >RIGHT-WING POPULISM https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html >BIG-GOVERNMENT LIBERTARIANS https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html",,Anonymous,Govt=Dindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,,,1500820828 134673557,134674026,2017-07-23 14:41:39,"This is a bump for life, property and private McNukes™",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500820899 134673557,134674723,2017-07-23 14:48:48,,,Anonymous,blue (2).jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,,,1500821328 134673557,134675480,2017-07-23 14:56:45,"I fucking love capitalism, anyone who doesn't is either inept or just a lazy nog. God bless.",,Anonymous,1500336443644.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,US,,1500821805 134673557,134676248,2017-07-23 15:05:26,Bumping for child slaves,,Anonymous,DangNabitGadsden.jpg,X8AVUVnEF6EU5aVabBhp6w==,US,,1500822326 134673557,134676387,2017-07-23 15:06:50,Subjugation of communists is always in defense of property and non-aggression.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1500822410 134673557,134676621,2017-07-23 15:09:09,"""If you honestly believe the natural state of a free man is to mutilate their genitals, abuse drugs or otherwise self destruct, you're dead wrong.""",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1500822549 134673557,134676894,2017-07-23 15:12:06,">>134673557 Please tell me more about Anarcho Fascism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500822726 134673557,134677448,2017-07-23 15:18:34,">>134676894 its loosely defined, some say it is an authoritarian state with the purpose of protecting Austro-Libertarian property rights. Basically AnCap ethics by force. NatCap. Others say its the natural result of anarchism; propertarian hierarchies will evolve into a voluntary monarchism or fascism",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,,,1500823114 134673557,134677924,2017-07-23 15:23:57,"BASED White Wimmens! Better times, universal sufferage was a mistake!",,Anonymous,1497397845110.jpg,OKbVIfK9UxP2NWSWkMirHg==,,,1500823437 134673557,134677928,2017-07-23 15:23:59,">>134676894 Anarcho Fascism is the late stage of AnCap or Libertarianism. You either end up with a tribalist system or a fascist one, where the goal of the fascist leader is simply to protect personal and property rights from systems such as communism or socialism. These systems inherently violate the NAP as they seek to take away property and personal rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500823439 134673557,134677979,2017-07-23 15:24:32,">>134677448 So does it involve Ethno Nationalism?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500823472 134673557,134678370,2017-07-23 15:29:09,">>134677979 it's certainly possible, right of association and all. theres nothing stopping ethno-covenants from formingr in AnCapistan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500823749 134673557,134679180,2017-07-23 15:37:53,">I need a Pinochet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o",,Anonymous,1496085231943.png,fJk+zIeC5I4jZ/zsN4Y7DQ==,,,1500824273 134673557,134680123,2017-07-23 15:48:01,,,Anonymous,korwin7.jpg,D8Ono7SmcMR62/IQSubxUQ==,,,1500824881 134673557,134680224,2017-07-23 15:49:03,">>134673557 Liberals are retarded, but trying to totally eliminate government and taxes is impossible. And I say that as a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1500824943 134673557,134681373,2017-07-23 16:01:26,">>134680224 Is trying to eliminate any about of government and taxes retarded?",,Anonymous,You_can_do_it.jpg,Bj6S0zfG+IpZRBIlJ8DqRg==,US,,1500825686 134673557,134681701,2017-07-23 16:05:05,">>134681373 *Amount",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500825905 134673557,134681747,2017-07-23 16:05:35,">>134680224 Why? Are you one of those incoherent minarchists that say ""Government is not efficient in any way, everything it touches is worst off after"" and ""But government is the most efficient lawmakers and the only one that can do security!""? You are no better than the socialist, even if you call yourself a libertarian",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1500825935 134673557,134682820,2017-07-23 16:17:32,Bump.,,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1500826652 134673557,134683356,2017-07-23 16:22:49,">>134682820 Korwin X Hoppe Rapvideo when?",,Anonymous,korwin3.png,vPYAkpGa/LvzjAGu+C4HlA==,,,1500826969 134673557,134683399,2017-07-23 16:23:25,">>134681747 I'm not a statist, but you can't dismiss the question so easily. Rand put it like this: >A recent variant of anarchistic theory, which is befuddling some of the younger advocates of freedom, is a weird absurdity called “competing governments.” Accepting the basic premise of the modern statists—who see no difference between the functions of government and the functions of industry, between force and production, and who advocate government ownership of business—the proponents of “competing governments” take the other side of the same coin and declare that since competition is so beneficial to business, it should also be applied to government. Instead of a single, monopolistic government, they declare, there should be a number of different governments in the same geographical area, competing for the allegiance of individual citizens, with every citizen free to “shop” and to patronize whatever government he chooses. >Remember that forcible restraint of men is the only service a government has to offer. Ask yourself what a competition in forcible restraint would have to mean. >One cannot call this theory a contradiction in terms, since it is obviously devoid of any understanding of the terms “competition” and “government.” Nor can one call it a floating abstraction, since it is devoid of any contact with or reference to reality and cannot be concretized at all, not even roughly or approximately. One illustration will be sufficient: suppose Mr. Smith, a customer of Government A, suspects that his next-door neighbor, Mr. Jones, a customer of Government B, has robbed him; a squad of Police A proceeds to Mr. Jones’ house and is met at the door by a squad of Police B, who declare that they do not accept the validity of Mr. Smith’s complaint and do not recognize the authority of Government A. What happens then? You take it from there.",,Anonymous,4k ancap.png,fzqYdYekUpQNWgKfDTFbdg==,,,1500827005 134673557,134683444,2017-07-23 16:23:49,">>134683399 >... a society without an organized government would be at the mercy of the first criminal who came along and who would precipitate it into the chaos of gang warfare. But the possibility of human immorality is not the only objection to anarchy: even a society whose every member were fully rational and faultlessly moral, could not function in a state of anarchy; it is the need of objective laws and of an arbiter for honest disagreements among men that necessitates the establishment of a government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500827029 134673557,134683662,2017-07-23 16:26:07,economics is an evolutionary sience. the real war is between the races,,Anonymous,,,,,1500827167 134673557,134683776,2017-07-23 16:27:14,">>134683444 >it is the need of objective laws and of an arbiter for honest disagreements among men what is culture and the values it brings with it",,Anonymous,,,,,1500827234 134673557,134683968,2017-07-23 16:29:08,">>134673581 so it only takes one lefty/nigger to let in millions of niggers and ruin the country",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1500827348 134673557,134684042,2017-07-23 16:29:53,">>134683662 economics are human interactions, since the beginning of time and the race war is already going on, just because whites aren't fighting back when they fellow people get murdered and raped in the streets, odesn't mean there is no race war.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500827393 134673557,134684180,2017-07-23 16:31:21,so what stops me from using slaves,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500827481 134673557,134684403,2017-07-23 16:33:29,">>134684180 we support slavery",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1500827609 134673557,134684415,2017-07-23 16:33:41,">>134684180 People who care about the people you enslaved, or their insurance company, but if you just take a niglet out of a shithole nobody would care I guess., as long as you don't use him to steal for you or something like that.",,Anonymous,ancap5.jpg,ZyNwRSj0ZOpncHbYK8Ci1A==,,,1500827621 134673557,134684597,2017-07-23 16:35:40,">>134683776 Well, yes, the values of the society will be what are enshrined in law. The problem is that if there is no state, why should anyone recognize those particular laws? What if someone has a different interpretation of cultural values and acts in accordance with his own set of laws? Insofar as his code of law contradicts the one followed by others (call them society's laws), he would violate society's laws. Then one's choice would be to either enforce society's laws against that person's will - in which case you're back to the conception of a state as an ultimate legal authority. Or you could fail to enforce society's laws - in which case you might not have those laws at all, if anyone can simply break them without punishment.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500827740 134673557,134684646,2017-07-23 16:36:16,">>134683968 People living in The ""Nation"" don't set the immigration policy, the property owner does. Leftists will never own property. They'll be the suckers on the bottom as they always are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500827776 134673557,134684761,2017-07-23 16:37:30,">>134684403 >we support slavery",,Anonymous,Massimo.jpg,bXpIL3il1BtnF3chYEu3cQ==,US,,1500827850 134673557,134684780,2017-07-23 16:37:41,">>134684180 Get them to sign Voluntary McSlavery™ contracts on pain of starvation. Simple",,Anonymous,mcgas.jpg,FlGH7rsOKeQ3ca0651rVyg==,,,1500827861 134673557,134684900,2017-07-23 16:39:00,"lol I love how the commie fucks on /leftypol/ and r/anarchism are raiding us today >topkek",,Anonymous,1su4vc.jpg,HW/klzhAhE5gqwQP8+Mfuw==,,,1500827940 134673557,134685028,2017-07-23 16:40:42,">>134683356 in September when he has his PFS speech wonder if the Turks will let this madman even into the country",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1500828042 134673557,134685184,2017-07-23 16:42:16,">>134684597 well for example people still believe in a loose form of the ten commandments and back in the days without strong government, small communities and villages far away from the next authority handled this stuff all by themselves. and even if you would abolish all laws in a white country people wouldn't start killing each other or start looting, only degenerates and subhumans would do so and they would get killed in the process by normal people, because they know what is just and unjust without a piece of paper.",,Anonymous,1381007896752.jpg,0ZJjWrVu3gOJwEANKhw+OQ==,,,1500828136 134673557,134685363,2017-07-23 16:44:20,">>134677979 Voluntary ethnostate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500828260 134673557,134685564,2017-07-23 16:46:25,">>134685028 Doesn't hoppe live in istanbul, so I don't think korwin should be a problem. I always think it's funny when the merkelgov is ranting about turks, how bad they tread free speech, while Hoppe can have his society there, so we should spam those speeches in every normie's head. PS:still hoping they both get drunk and make a rapsong",,Anonymous,,,,,1500828385 134673557,134686359,2017-07-23 16:54:43,">>134685564 Hoppe also talked about this hypocrisy in one of his PFS introductions. Being a race realist and all, I'd still rather live in the West than in Turkey, for now...",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1500828883 134673557,134686773,2017-07-23 16:59:07,">>134685184 >small communities and villages far away from the next authority handled this stuff all by themselves Exactly, each small village was its own de facto state. I'm all for reducing the size of states, if they are necessary. But the problem for anarchism is whether any state is necessary. Consider what would happen if you committed a crime within one of those villages. Some kind of jury would form, maybe the tribal elders, and they would pronounce your punishment. They would decide each case separately, based on a combination of traditions and customs. They would have no idea of the concept of a 'right' (that would have to wait for the Enlightenment). Their legal system would operate on the implicit premise that the tribe or village had absolute power over its citizens, as there would be no hard limits on the action the village could take. There would also be no concept of precedent, and crimes would not be clearly defined - i.e. there would be no objectivity. A primitive, unchanging society might function on such a system, but a modern, industrialized, advancing, capitalist society would not. If a man is to operate in a modern society (say he wants to go ahead with an innovation which has implications for others' property), he must know beforehand what is within his rights and what is forbidden. There can be no room for uncertainty, imprecision or the personal choice of the law-enforcers in this: the law must be absolutely clear-cut and objective. Following my logic in >>134684597, it must also be absolute. This implies a single ultimate arbiter of the objective, absolute law, i.e. a state (or, at least two components of a state: a constitution and a supreme court). It does not, however, imply a monopoly on the ENFORCEMENT of that law, only on the arbitration of conflicts in which parties have violated the law. Also >Ancap argues a state is necessary >Fascist defends anarchism Are we both playing devil's advocate? kek",,Anonymous,ancap.png,cY8DZ/yDulSlY99eZCoFbQ==,,,1500829147 134673557,134686813,2017-07-23 16:59:31,">>134673581 Isn't the idea that every land is private and by default no one can't enter any private property without prior permission flawed? For example if I owned parcel somewhere and someone would buy all parcels around my parcel wouldn't that restrict my access to parcel from outside?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1500829171 134673557,134687045,2017-07-23 17:01:53,">>134686813 In theory, yes. But in theory you could do that in modern day America; there's no law to prevent it. It never happens, though, because it's a Tom and Jerry-tier scheme.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500829313 134673557,134687232,2017-07-23 17:03:35,">>134686359 >I'd still rather live in the West than in Turkey, for now... Yes, but I think we have to get out in the next 10-15 years before all goes to shit and they won't let you out anymore.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500829415 134673557,134687724,2017-07-23 17:08:04,">>134687232 already planning",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1500829684 134673557,134688290,2017-07-23 17:13:35,">>134686773 He can get the opinion of other land owners, this is also the case today, (where we have laws on paper) when companies start something and years after people complain about the damge that was done to their property or their health and they go to court. But I am not in general against a fixed set of rules for example when the owner of a private city declares a set of rules everyone who lives or visits there has to follow I have no problem with it, but it is not a necessary thing. also I am >>134685564 lost my connection.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500830015 134673557,134689450,2017-07-23 17:25:31,">>134673557 [Pic Related] is the Shill Operation being done against the KB Threads/Comments. It was started on 6/2 & then on 6/3 the London Bridge Attack happened. The Shills had foreknowledge about the Terror Attack due to them being part of the same ISIS Network (That also did the Manchester & Westminster Attacks), which is why they did/started the Shill Operation a day before in hopes of discrediting the KB Threads ahead of time. Bilderberg (which was going on during that Timeframe), IC “fingerprints” & those in CNN familiar with Doxing were also involved. CNN eventually made a deal with ISIS to hire that ISIS Filmmaker if they Doxed that Trump GIF Sharer for them. The exact same tactic of “doxing a random person (who then deletes accounts after seeing/finding out about the dox) in hopes to use that person’s information to attack someone/something else” was done in both cases. (The Shills really went “all in” after a Red Herring, showing desperation & paranoia) The Shills put “Deep Drive” CP into the “Frank Memes/Images/Pics” they tend to post. It’s called “Deep Drive” CP because it’s still in the computer(s) even if the images are deleted & special/advanced tech/hardware/security systems are required to spot/detect it. (This type of CP is predominately used for Blackmail & Compromising. CP Distributors have access to it) “Deep Drive” CP is how they are going to bring down 4chan (Hiro & Moderators take note) by “Poisoning the Well” with images/memes that have it. Pedophile Operatives inside Governments/Agencies/Military’s will use it to Compromise everyone (“Good Guys” & “Bad Guys”, Pedo’s are Evil that will spare no one) unless they are stopped beforehand. They will also try to start War(while also killing Trump’s admin as “revenge” for taking down the Pedo Networks) by say “Russia” put the CP on/in the computers. Pedo’s will use the confusion to hide, escape and/or claim “innocence”.",,Anonymous5,ShillsExposed.gif,OSY2No9fOzOLtiMNDwfn0A==,US,,1500830731 134673557,134690665,2017-07-23 17:37:52,Can we get some /lrg/ aesthetics in this thread?,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-22-09.13.52.jpg,1fGNOuCpIw+C7JF5q4k48w==,US,,1500831472 134673557,134691565,2017-07-23 17:47:21,">tries finding Constitution of Liberty in Croatian >this book was published with help of Open Society Foundation What do guys? Also it's in Serbian so that's huge bonerkill too. Is this particular book worth it?",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1500832041 134673557,134691663,2017-07-23 17:48:24,>>134690665,,Anonymous,Hoppe (10).png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,,,1500832104 134673557,134691756,2017-07-23 17:49:21,>>134691663,,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1500832161 134673557,134691814,2017-07-23 17:49:55,">>134691756 for thumbnail plebs",,Anonymous,Hoppe (5).png,xWbOH+078M65hA7wPGUoXQ==,,,1500832195 134673557,134691869,2017-07-23 17:50:34,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (14).jpg,YFidbdxwx5ajR3h2gOA+0A==,,,1500832234 134673557,134692319,2017-07-23 17:55:18,">>134691565 I personally don't trust the Cato institute for that reason.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500832518 134673557,134694370,2017-07-23 18:17:30,Bump,,Anonymous,IMG_1372.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,,,1500833850 134673557,134694853,2017-07-23 18:23:25,"Posted this in another thread. Wondering what /lrg/ thinks of this idea. Rule of law, and law alone - lexocracy? Atriocracy? Ultra-minarchism?",,Anonymous,atriocracy.png,ej3KcWM/amVWlzPIgFcnjw==,,,1500834205 134673557,134694974,2017-07-23 18:24:50,,,Anonymous,join or die2.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,,,1500834290 134673557,134695881,2017-07-23 18:34:19,">>134694853 This sounds like the ace combat 3 electrosphere stuff, where big companies (GR+Neucom) took over the states and a peacekeeping organisation (UPEO) keeps them in check, I could live with that, better than we have today no doubt, but the problem like with every form of minarchism is who keeps itself in check. and how you described it is funded with no taxation, it must be funded with private capital, in which case it would take the position as the kaiser had in the holy roman empire of german nation with which I am more than ok with.",,Anonymous,"Su-37,.jpg",/R11Jig9Tcw7c2kaLA2ZWw==,,,1500834859 134704675,134704675,2017-07-23 20:10:33,">""The state is an institution run by gangs of murderers, plunderers, and thieves, surrounded by willing executioners, propagandists, sycophants, crooks, liars, clowns, charlatans, dupes, and useful idiots — an institution that dirties and taints everything it touches"" - Hans Hermann-Hoppe This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 REQUIRED READING: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >FURTHER READING: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads THREAD THEME: >Drop it like it's Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Free Private Cities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb8nJauOq_8 >Free Private Cities - Dr. Titus Gebel @ ESFL Belgrade Regional Conference 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XETbbGEaxY8 >Are Private Cities in Our Future? https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=picMiUhVfH4 >Unqualified Reservations: Patchwork: a positive vision (part 1) http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.pt/2008/11/patchwork-positive-vision-part-1.html",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: NEOREACTIONARY CITY-STATES EDITION,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,PT,,1500840633 134704675,134706995,2017-07-23 20:36:04,,,Anonymous,ancap reading.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,PT,,1500842164 134704675,134709030,2017-07-23 20:57:52,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500843472 134704675,134709106,2017-07-23 20:58:36,">>134709030 let's get this thread rolling",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1500843516 134704675,134709269,2017-07-23 21:00:30,">>134709106 My dude, portubro? If you post a link in the discord you'll guarantee some traffic. I'll hit it up",,Anonymous,10ed.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,US,,1500843630 134704675,134709645,2017-07-23 21:05:11,,,Anonymous,1500336443644.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,US,,1500843911 134704675,134709688,2017-07-23 21:05:35,">>134709269 I already joined the discord, but I don't use it that much. As a matter of fact, I haven't been on /pol/ that much nowadays. But nice to see the threads are still rolling!",,Anonymous,ancap andy again.jpg,nJJiImciDuRCuXn4r+lycw==,PT,,1500843935 134704675,134710271,2017-07-23 21:12:33,">>134709688 I've been inactive and Slovakia has been away. But I decided to take up shilling /lrg/ hard again, expect more threads. The discord and book club has quite active lately. It'd be cool to have you around.",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1500844353 134704675,134710427,2017-07-23 21:14:17,">>134710271 I'll stop by soon. I took a break because I was fed up with all the stupidity I read on this board. Now I'm back kek",,Anonymous,Erik_von_Kuehnelt-Leddihn.jpg,g9eN4ZjgGXZ++Dc00bERTA==,PT,,1500844457 134704675,134710604,2017-07-23 21:16:23,">>134710427 >>134709030 Yes.",,Anonymous,1485953176442.jpg,rtobQpVQ+oecLU2N9ZatsA==,,,1500844583 134704675,134710752,2017-07-23 21:18:17,">>134710604 Based Leddihn. Probably the greatest Western to ever live. Really, I was reading his Wikipedia and I was flabbergasted with his intellect and knowledge.",,Anonymous,trump election.png,a/XNkHQCmZ9vj3H0R9za6w==,PT,,1500844697 134704675,134710834,2017-07-23 21:19:19,">>134704675 The concept of economic and social freedom is the most anti-white ideology possible, even worse than communism. Making people forget where they come from in exchange for more money and freedom has led to this current society of materialistic misery where there is no white pride left.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500844759 134704675,134710855,2017-07-23 21:19:32,I just joined the discord. Seems pretty legit. I hope to contribute a lot to it.,,Anonymous,ancap vs ancom png.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,,,1500844772 134704675,134710965,2017-07-23 21:20:52,>>134710834,,Anonymous,bait.jpg,ApIRn6rUNJNApNIezMq3Eg==,PT,,1500844852 134704675,134711011,2017-07-23 21:21:34,">>134710427 Yeah I've been away for the same reason. The boards been shit. Time to crusade against the trash again.",,Anonymous,randy_gadsden_pole_background_01.png,x+CRX3PggJEMfHXexYl3Cg==,US,,1500844894 134704675,134711169,2017-07-23 21:23:39,">>134710834 Our ideology is about allowing you to pursue your individual interests. It is in your individual interest to protect your race when they are under attack. Make sense to you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500845019 134704675,134711537,2017-07-23 21:27:58,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (7).png,Ps0EkdLm4GTSaTkGmxi0Gw==,US,,1500845278 134704675,134711611,2017-07-23 21:28:51,">>134711537 top kek",,Anonymous,[refutes praxeologically].png,WgtOR9jRb4blFTmClJrmmQ==,PT,,1500845331 134704675,134711649,2017-07-23 21:29:24,,,Anonymous,1478946254802.jpg,BBGfn9NEG5SLrJ1QKBOiCg==,US,,1500845364 134704675,134711761,2017-07-23 21:30:55,,,Anonymous,hoppe on multiculturalism.jpg,AkHlPewhybuu+ohH0AWp7w==,PT,,1500845455 134704675,134711762,2017-07-23 21:30:57,">>134710855 Cool man, be sure to introduce yourself to become a member.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500845457 134704675,134712200,2017-07-23 21:36:12,,,Anonymous,decentralization.png,/qpBa22Z7Qc9bb9cJhQGlA==,PT,,1500845772 134704675,134712494,2017-07-23 21:39:58,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (8).png,6z9bMzuxMtKS/VW9Fz9m4Q==,US,,1500845998 134704675,134712536,2017-07-23 21:40:33,,,Anonymous,hoppe masses.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,PT,,1500846033 134704675,134712780,2017-07-23 21:43:42,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (9).png,xuEeqQFPwQ4WrhcKYbYA/g==,US,,1500846222 134704675,134712959,2017-07-23 21:46:15,">>134711649 I didn't sign shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1500846375 134704675,134712983,2017-07-23 21:46:38,,,Anonymous,physical removal 80s.png,FLQZpZL/imjJJIRfu8BWEw==,PT,,1500846398 134704675,134713073,2017-07-23 21:47:49,communism or gtfo,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500846469 134704675,134713107,2017-07-23 21:48:14,">b-b-but what about le warlords?! <---",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1500846494 134704675,134713901,2017-07-23 21:59:37,">>134712959 And you also have the right to live like a street urchin and never pay a tax in your entire life. It's a meme and I'm only posting bait to keep the thread alive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500847177 134704675,134714345,2017-07-23 22:05:30,">>134713073 American and communist? You make me sick. Please remove yourself.",,Anonymous,Hoppe (2).jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1500847530 134704675,134714431,2017-07-23 22:06:37,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (6).png,GswtS/nQpqWIyQdTLiXunw==,US,,1500847597 134704675,134714900,2017-07-23 22:12:53,">>134704675 I wish right libertarianism was more popular. I've been looking around for supplementary discussion forums, but they're always filled with open borders or leftist cucks",,Anonymous,1492545190417.jpg,ZCWXVOM3q5K8rwu55Kj/6w==,CA,,1500847973 134704675,134715263,2017-07-23 22:17:32,">>134714900 /lrg/ is the only Legit right libertarian community I know. The rest are open borders cucks or boring autists with no humor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500848252 134704675,134715344,2017-07-23 22:18:28,,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1500848308 134704675,134715901,2017-07-23 22:25:26,">>134715263 At least we have this",,Anonymous,66677777778.png,Mhrcy50T0pzM88OHbmHtsA==,CA,,1500848726 134704675,134716427,2017-07-23 22:31:51,">>134715901 Join the discord if you haven't already. It's quite active.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500849111 134704675,134717200,2017-07-23 22:41:48,">>134704675 Just gonna throw this out there: People who break their arms jerking off the fetid corpse of Hoppe don't fully understand the principles behind Anarcho Capitalism. What you do on your own property is none of my business, but when you want to implement something on a large scale... I've got a few problems with that. Also, I have yet to enjoy a story from Ayn Rand, her writing is dry and her storytelling is not that great. Still an important set of lessons to learn, I suppose. I'm not gonna sage, so this important thread bumps. Here (You) go.",,Anonymous,PylePro-Professional-Megaphone-Bullhorn-with-Siren-L12380414.jpg,enebICMFV8PSR6NMtVklLw==,,,1500849708 134704675,134717425,2017-07-23 22:44:41,">>134706995 Also, here's some more of these",,Anonymous,pamphlet 2.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,,,1500849881 134704675,134717655,2017-07-23 22:47:22,">>134717200 How is Hoppe a fetid corpse? Is your only argument against him that you wanna fall for jewish ploys to degrade you? Sucks that you dont like ayn, to each his own",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500850042 134704675,134718142,2017-07-23 22:53:00,">>134717655 It was a joke, not meant to be taken seriously (He's almost 70). My argument against him is he wants a fully unified community comprised of nothing other than people who are identical to him (white, sober, straight, etc.). And while that's all fine and dandy, whatever he does on his property is well within his rights. But a truly ancap society wouldn't have such restrictions (otherwise how would they be enforced?). Source for Hoppe's ideas of an ideal ancap society: One of his books. Democracy: The God That Failed: The Economics and Politics of Monarchy, Democracy and Natural Order",,Anonymous,,,,,1500850380 134704675,134718194,2017-07-23 22:53:33,">>134710834 >WHITE PRIDE MUH WHITE PRIDE XDDDDDD >LE MATERIALISM XD Getting real sick of this shit. Why do you come here crying about white pride and claim that it's of utmost importance when you know that we primarily care about freedom? Fuck off dude. Read some Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500850413 134704675,134718309,2017-07-23 22:54:53,a theocratic monarchy is objectively the best form of government,,Anonymous,,,,,1500850493 134704675,134718409,2017-07-23 22:55:59,">>134718309 How so? Funny thing about objectivity and the individual... it tends to be biased.",,Anonymous,1489084949529.jpg,g0U5y8l+6n+r07CqHx7MeQ==,,,1500850559 134704675,134718686,2017-07-23 22:59:10,">>134718409 objectivity is determined by natural law. natural law is God's law. monarchy is the natural outcome of patrilineal descent. the monarch rules by divine right, natural law",,Anonymous,,,,,1500850750 134704675,134718945,2017-07-23 23:02:17,How do libertarians dress? Wear their hair? I wanna look the part,,Anonymous,milocoin7.png,ukvL4xzI2pOtslILiiUxzw==,US,,1500850937 134704675,134718994,2017-07-23 23:02:52,">>134718945 not like that faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500850972 134704675,134719161,2017-07-23 23:05:04,">>134706995 >helicopter pilot's handbook",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500851104 134704675,134719317,2017-07-23 23:06:56,">>134718142 You fail to understand hoppean covenant communities if you think he intends to enforce his will on the whole of AnCapistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500851216 134704675,134719326,2017-07-23 23:06:59,"By and large the more de-monopolized the protection services are in an area the more conflict that arises between them. Private law societies therefore would not function, because the natural desire to intensify and expand a service will still persist. This is why anarcho-capitalism cannot work",,Anonymous,,,,,1500851219 134704675,134719429,2017-07-23 23:08:28,">>134718945 Don't dress like me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500851308 134704675,134719561,2017-07-23 23:10:10,">>134718945 >look the part Then wear whatever the fuck you want. There's no Libertarian Attire Committee. That's kind of the point, no? >>134718686 >natural law is God's law That depends on what you mean by natural law. In the traditional sense, yes, the philosophers of the time thought it was God's law. But not contemporarily. You'll need to specify. >the monarch rules by divine right, natural law No, it rules by force. Divinity is a farce employed to keep the peasants in check. t. North Korea",,Anonymous,,,,,1500851410 134704675,134719582,2017-07-23 23:10:30,">>134718686 Yes the natural order is deeply hierarchical. We understand the natural elite.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500851430 134704675,134719585,2017-07-23 23:10:32,">>134718945 >How do libertarians dress? Jeans, plain shirt, a hoodie, and black shoes >Wear their hair? Long, a little wavy. I'm only rich enough to afford to make myself look decent at best.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500851432 134704675,134720032,2017-07-23 23:16:00,">>134719317 Those Hoppean covenant communities only exist as long as everyone inside it agrees. What if someone doesn't? What if a crack-smoking negro purchases land directly in the center of it? He purchased the property entirely of his own merit, and now owns that land. What happens to that community? You can't enforce the homogeny, because it's his private property. So logically, the only way to keep these convents alive and clean would be one of the following: * Violate the NAP * Break up/move the community * Pretend the nigger doesn't exist (Which then breaks the homogeny, no longer being a part of Hoppe's dream) I understand he wants the residents to be contractually obligated to maintain the whiteness of the community, but the beauty of the invisible hand is eventually they'll want to import some color, for some reason or another. But that part's mostly conjecture, because there has yet to be an ancap society in which to base this on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500851760 134704675,134720169,2017-07-23 23:17:35,"How do you even pronounce ""NAP""? Sounds so awkward and clunky any way you cut it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500851855 134704675,134720300,2017-07-23 23:18:57,">>134720169 There's a few ways to pronounce it: ""nap"" (like taking a nap) ""en āh pee"" ""non-aggression principle""",,Anonymous,,,,,1500851937 134704675,134720404,2017-07-23 23:20:18,How do I take the ancap pill?,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170519-181207~01.png,xWzosV2lLsMrlPyZyKZIaQ==,CA,,1500852018 134704675,134720584,2017-07-23 23:22:27,">>134720032 You don't get it. It's a community based on a contract. the crack smoking negro doesn't get to buy property if he's made a contract to not do so and abide by the community rules. If you break the rules you breach contract and you are the one violating non aggression via fraud. you get physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500852147 134704675,134720598,2017-07-23 23:22:34,">>134720032 We are not hung up on nap. If a nigger tries, assuming he could buy it(cause hes a crack head and a nigger) wed remove him. If doesnt leave voluntarily. How else will you maintain order?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500852154 134704675,134720671,2017-07-23 23:23:26,">>134720404 You read up on how the current system works, why it doesn't work, and how anarcho-capitalism would fix each problem associated with the current system. Also, read up on lots of philosophy and economics. Or to very generally cover it: It's the natural state of mankind. Private property, trade-based economics (with competing currencies instead of a central bank), and a fully privatized market. It's also the logical conclusion of libertarianism in general. These posts here will give you a set of books you can look through at your leisure: >>134717425 >>134706995",,Anonymous,chart.png,ojgy1ZdAMc1HNM0sqLcI2w==,,,1500852206 134704675,134720679,2017-07-23 23:23:33,">>134720404 watch Hoppe speak on youtube or do some reading",,Anonymous,,,,,1500852213 134704675,134720774,2017-07-23 23:24:47,">>134718945 Hawaiian shirt with khakis, a strw hat or baseball hat. Its very hot in humid texas",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500852287 134704675,134720828,2017-07-23 23:25:27,">>134720300 Those all sound awful desu. Frankly the whole concept is underdeveloped and getting more outdated by the day. Libertarianism needs an update. >>134720774 I like it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500852327 134704675,134720863,2017-07-23 23:25:55,">>134718945 >>134720774 Short hair is a must only a cm or so",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500852355 134704675,134720899,2017-07-23 23:26:27,">>134718945 Like a non-degenerate classy human.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500852387 134704675,134721057,2017-07-23 23:28:29,">>134720404 Come to an understanding that separatism and secession is a reoccurring theme in the natural discourse of humanity.",,Anonymous,1500451157408.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,US,,1500852509 134704675,134721082,2017-07-23 23:28:43,Does anyone care to refute this?,,Anonymous,ancap daily struggle.png,fHWMzY5sSXV5FPy9tqhI4w==,US,,1500852523 134704675,134721148,2017-07-23 23:29:27,">>134720899 Kindly stop please, if you use the word classy you're probably some form of degenerate fur fag",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500852567 134704675,134721255,2017-07-23 23:30:44,">>134721082 Youve listed an economic system and a style of government, elaborate. As ancaps want no government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500852644 134704675,134721304,2017-07-23 23:31:21,">>134721148 Hes an ex fedora, go easy on him",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500852681 134704675,134721329,2017-07-23 23:31:37,">>134720584 I understand the concept, and how contractual obligations might prevent it. But like I said, eventually it would become like current whites-only groups: fringe. Because even though people naturally tend to associate with their own race, homogeny will lead to stagnation. However, I will cede that it would be easier in the short-term to have a specific race be the only populace. But until we see it in action, there's really no telling how it'd work out. Ancap society when? I'd be elated when this happens, so we can see in real-time how things would work, instead of speculation and conjecture. >>134720598 >not hung up on nap This is what I'm talking about, right here. The entirety of our ideology revolves around the idea of the non-aggression principle. Unless he actually violates some contractual obligation, or the NAP in any way, you are leaving the realm of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500852697 134704675,134721459,2017-07-23 23:33:12,">>134721082 capitalism made the wonderful things, corporatism fucked things up. its both.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500852792 134704675,134721669,2017-07-23 23:35:24,">>134721082 Well our current economic system is for the most part corporatist, while having a somewhat free market. It's that somewhat part that's making all the innovation, and the rest that's holding us back. For instance, flying cars already exist. But the FAA and DoT thought it'd be too much work and too much risk, so they shut the whole fucking thing down. Thanks government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500852924 134704675,134721693,2017-07-23 23:35:40,">>134721329 It doesn't have to be a complete ethno-community, it could be a community of degenerate commies. I back traditional homogenious communites because they have a track record of being stable and degenerate commies have a track record of destroying everything they touch.",,Anonymous,misc (4).jpg,loryyDKMeZx40HWKilOZfw==,,,1500852940 134704675,134721732,2017-07-23 23:36:06,">>134720671 >>134720679 Thanks. I already lean towards minarchism, where I believe the only goal of the government is to protect the rights of it's citizens, but I can't get over the fact that I think society would end up authoritarian without someone keeping things in check.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1500852966 134704675,134722121,2017-07-23 23:40:24,">>134721329 I understand the fright this causes, but consider it as a preemptive strike, for we know this nigger will lead to the rape and murder of our citizenry, the destruction of environment(the Sahara, Australian outback) It is defense. If communists lived next door encouraged communism and you remembered how we got to here historically (into this marxist nightmare) and remembered the jews games. Then it is defensive in nature. And does not violate nap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500853224 134704675,134722283,2017-07-23 23:42:33,">>134721732 All governments that were once microscopic will eventually expand as the society changes. It never stops once the foot is in the door. >>134721693 I tend to back communities that don't have contractual obligations beyond defense and common courtesy, because beyond that point you're constructing a miniature authoritarian bloc (in a sense), interfering with what people might want. Sometimes I don't even go for the defense contracts in favor of the individual and/or helping your neighbor by choice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500853353 134704675,134722314,2017-07-23 23:42:57,"How do you answer the question of children? I don't care if an adult ruins their life by becoming a junkie, but the kids didn't choose to get born into a family with junkie parents. Or they didn't choose to get born into a family that won't send them to school. The parents can basically make sure that a child will have a shit life, so how does that jive with libertarian principles?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500853377 134704675,134722620,2017-07-23 23:47:00,">>134722121 >preemptive strike Literally NAP-violating. It's not defense if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt it's going to happen. You're just being a cocksucker before he MIGHT be a cocksucker.",,Anonymous,8f58d37314279c06715321f2cf5fed37.jpg,dC2x7wAWq5SYYP4P9lulmw==,,,1500853620 134704675,134722652,2017-07-23 23:47:30,">>134722283 >I tend to back communities that don't have contractual obligations beyond defense and common courtesy That's fine, you're free to join a community with those ideals. You wouldn't stop anyone from joining a community that seeks to preserve its culture would you? then we're fine.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500853650 134704675,134722679,2017-07-23 23:47:52,">>134722314 >Question of children You didn't really pose a question. You just said something happens, and how we feel about it. Please clarify.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500853672 134704675,134722793,2017-07-23 23:49:27,">>134722283 >All governments that were once microscopic will eventually expand as the society changes. Yeah, I know. I just want to live my life without some fag 1000km away telling me what I can and can't do.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1500853767 134704675,134722822,2017-07-23 23:49:50,">>134722314 The junkie parents could always sell the kid. If they value whatever sustains their junkie lifestyle more than the well-being of their child they'd surely sell the kid for some extra meth money if they knew they could",,Anonymous,,,,,1500853790 134704675,134722847,2017-07-23 23:50:07,">>134722620 >beyond a shadow of a doubt I know beyond a shadow of a doubt. Did you read the rest of my posts? Niggers destroy. Especially the one you described. Jews destroy and commies are their retarded pawns. Where is the shadow of doubt?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500853807 134704675,134723415,2017-07-23 23:56:39,">>134722793 Its like this leaf. We know the world works om cycles. Governments must rise as it is natural. But today and for a few thousand years from now our paradise we build for each other amd our kin will echo thoughout forever as beacon that we can be free",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500854199 134704675,134723513,2017-07-23 23:57:54,">>134722652 We both think on the same plane, the only difference is I'm arguing against his ideas of homogeny. I did however specify from the get-go that whatever he does on his property is absolutely none of my business. I do, however, strongly believe in the preservation of culture. But in the sense that you remove what is not optimal, and keep the pinnacle of what it has to offer. For instance, 99.98% of what Islam preaches should be buried six feet deep.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500854274 134704675,134723921,2017-07-24 00:03:10,">>134722847 Everyone destroys, my friend. Not just nogs. It is far easier to destroy something than it is to create it. Still haven't illuminated the shadow of a doubt.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500854590 134704675,134724778,2017-07-24 00:14:20,">>134720032 The contract says ""We all agree not to sell to niggers or felons. We all agree to not freeload on defense insurance etc. This contract must be transferred to the next owner. Breaking this contract is tantamount to theft of $10k from each other signatory."" If someone breaks the contract, which he has every right to do, he will have to pay damages. Underwriters will secure the contract for a certain fee, maybe $50 per party. Insurance companies will try to get people to sign such contracts because it increases property values, reduces crime etc for free. Yes, for just the cost of the paper.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500855260 134704675,134725032,2017-07-24 00:17:40,">>134723921 Are you a troll? We are race realists here and beyond that do i need to start up with statistics? Or actual examples of shit places that niggers and spics infest? I personally live along the texan border where about a good half(of first second and third gen spics) are deadbeats ive lived in cali around, dallas area, the rural south, and along the border(for varing lengths of times each) and seen first hand the difference between the the big three races(i am Basque from spain myself, and have met many anglos, germans, and irish) and i can tell you only shit skins and commies(cali) are destrictive towards everything and a toxic bane to any society of white men who want to live morally. Need i go on? Or will you be bluepilled?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500855460 134704675,134725079,2017-07-24 00:18:50,">>134720032 >>134724778 So in addition to heavily disincentivizing the sale, even if this crack smoking nig moves in, homeowners are compensated for the damage he's doing to the community. If you want a tighter guarantee, just pick a community with a larger bond, although the underwriting will be more expensive. But that's a price you're willing to pay.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500855530 134704675,134725227,2017-07-24 00:20:37,,,Anonymous,13082583_1672473469695524_6251674801793277642_n.jpg,IbEKnzOfzQ3V0D6yF7VFmA==,,,1500855637 134704675,134725388,2017-07-24 00:22:45,">>134725032 I'm just here to say your interpreting Ancap wrong. It's called a non aggression pact for a reason budd, you don't have to live near the niggers nor do you have to pay their welfare, but you can't just go and kill them cause lol their black. We only get the helicopters when the communists attack their welcome to their own micro communist state without any of my support but I'm still gonna have armed guards either way, since then your opposing your own force and statist oppression onto someone else involuntary. Based helocopter capchas",,Anonymous,,,,,1500855765 134704675,134725403,2017-07-24 00:22:55,">>134725227 Pls no tred bby",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500855775 134704675,134725485,2017-07-24 00:23:52,"So I had this chat with a guy awhile ago about austrian economics. I didnt know what it was, but i powered through a wiki page on it and came up with a question. He absolutely refused to answer the question, and all the while opponents to his thought were buzzing around decrying it. My questions was: ""If austrian economists do not find historical or scientifically sourced data valuable for basing future economic decisions on. Then on what are economic decisions supposed to be based on?""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500855832 134704675,134725885,2017-07-24 00:29:39,">>134725388 But i am not. The example you just used was if i would allow an obviously cancerous person live in the smack dab middle of covenant land and posin us with his niggerish behavior, i bring up commies and jews as well because it will require the same solution, removal of tge physical kind. Dont you dare love mi Générale and claim you cant into physical removal. Your method of doings will simply allow your own covenant to be destroyed in a matter of 3 generatioms. Like what is CURRENTLY happening in america",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500856179 134704675,134726156,2017-07-24 00:32:49,">>134725032 >using anecdotes Yes, nigs statistically are quite a bit more likely to fuck shit up, given the opportunity. But you're talking about nigs. Nigs are gonna nog. Blame the welfare for turning the American negro into the 'Murrican nigger, and blame the society for chimptivizing the natives. >>134725485 The premise of your question is false, that's probably why he refused to answer. Skimming through a Wikipedia page does not an aficionado make.",,Anonymous,1489347452981.jpg,60t9NEuPty8Fx5d+0G+jHg==,,,1500856369 134704675,134726197,2017-07-24 00:33:18,">>134725485 Principle, that is largely the basis for it and that is why 'intellectuals"" will decry it as well i assume your friend was not prepared to take the full leap into the society that would be needed to create and maintain such a system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500856398 134704675,134726225,2017-07-24 00:33:40,">>134725485 What economic decisions? There's a little bit of question-begging here. Monetary policy and other statist crimes must be rejected. The question has a lot to do with methodology though. Austrians prefer rational methods over empirical methods (although the rational reasoning is founded on empirical observations about humans and the world.) Finally, you shouldn't think that Austrians hate data. Murray Rothbard was a great historian and reading his many many books on history should put your misgivings to rest.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500856420 134704675,134726567,2017-07-24 00:38:12,">>134726156 I wasnt trying to thats why i offered statistics instead, but i think it gets a little dry parroting the same facts over and over. If you wanna blame welfare then what of africa or the americas priors to colonization? If you can call anything a nothing burger it would be the accomplishments the nigs and natives.",,Anonymous,2185efdc4912a56adccc997493abecb10bbf301154cd338f8f328376ea50767d.jpg,iAPo89wsFOUKTO7bQSW+HQ==,US,,1500856692 134704675,134726947,2017-07-24 00:43:56,">>134726567 >Blame the welfare for turning the American negro into the 'Murrican nigger, and blame the society for chimptivizing the natives. >and blame the society for chimptivizing the natives Already gotcha covered! >pic related",,Anonymous,1496681642329.jpg,X5lQrUHLpfhqK75RBrCLhA==,,,1500857036 134704675,134727065,2017-07-24 00:45:31,">>134726947 Thanks m8. Saved",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500857131 134704675,134727281,2017-07-24 00:48:36,">>134726156 NON AGGRESSION PACT If you want to start killing other free market businesses because your shitty shop would fail and you covenant would die that isn't my problem or the other shops it's your for being shit at business so your shit. Your making a mockery of our movement, just let the market sort it out the blacks won't have welfare so they'll have to adapt or get shot robbing my community go join the fascists if you want physical death removal simply cause of your race, our removal is peaceful and via the free market for the best goods. Next you'll be saying we need to remove our minachist allies because they have a tiny state",,Anonymous,,,,,1500857316 134704675,134727348,2017-07-24 00:49:31,">>134726567 You have to realize American nigs are a totally different race from African nogs. They're 20-40% mixed. If we end the welfare state, they may almost be economically valuable after a few generations of natural selection. No way to know currently with welfare distortion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500857371 134704675,134727373,2017-07-24 00:49:53,"woopsy >>134727281 is meant for >>134725885",,Anonymous,,,,,1500857393 134704675,134727451,2017-07-24 00:50:59,">listening to Anatomy of the state for the first time angery that I wasn't born in America",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1500857459 134704675,134727899,2017-07-24 00:56:42,">>134727451 Eh, you're not missing much. Once our economy fails, we're going to cause a chain-reaction and literally fuck up the entire world economy. Better buy some silver before it's too late, my ausfag friend.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500857802 134704675,134727995,2017-07-24 00:58:00,">>134727281 I dont want capitalists to dies. Nore do i want mass shitskin death. But as i said if in the senerio of cancer moving into my covenants land, removal is the option. Pic has never been more related in my life",,Anonymous,gratefulness_by_neetsfagging322297-db86wgl.jpg,+AorT3xeYEwMe2D6YpbaqQ==,US,,1500857880 134704675,134728143,2017-07-24 00:59:48,">>134727899 checked at least you have rights coded into your law. Hate speech does not equal free speech here In NZ we have to be grateful for neoliberalism, the previous governments were unironically socialist",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1500857988 134704675,134728152,2017-07-24 00:59:51,">>134727348 And a pitbull is still a pitbull even if it was 40 percent retriever or something. You dont trust and you certantly dont let it roam free in your landa.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500857991 134704675,134728254,2017-07-24 01:01:02,">>134706995 Leviathan is a must read for libertarians. It's a crucible to see if your opinions are reasonable or not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500858062 134704675,134728567,2017-07-24 01:04:52,"All these niggers ignoring hoppes warning that any states end game is complete controll of all freely available territory. Including your covenants land. States are always agressors to us because we call for their death. Commies, jews, niggers that will blindly follow their alpha will all have to be removed. In order for our order to live and flourish",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500858292 134704675,134728782,2017-07-24 01:07:34,">>134727995 >if we become fascist we won't be fascists What kind of idiot aren't you seeing the free market and no state will make them adapt, all men have rights. You don't have to accept them or give them any money or live near them. but the successful ones will be smart and help our nation, it's literally genociding them but we're doing it peacefully And that pic is such a strawman if your locked up of course you fight but how would a communist commune even get power in a stateless place, they wouldn't be able to buy guns let alone food, and even if they did get guns we would have tanks,helicopters and more people since we would be more economically successful. It's like your forgetting about the fundamental basis of ancap Would you kill Jew capitalists? What about Minachists? What about generic republicans? Democrats? Nahzis? Centrists with a slight left lean? Fuck out of here i hope my genetically engineered dog butler breaks your aggressive nigger behavior in half, your a threat to my and everyone around you's freedom",,Anonymous,,,,,1500858454 134704675,134728980,2017-07-24 01:10:09,">>134704675 Daily reminder that Libertarianism is yet another jewish ideology designed to divide and conquer the goyim. Herman Hoppe is a jew stooge.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500858609 134704675,134729217,2017-07-24 01:13:09,">>134725485 >My questions was: ""If austrian economists do not find historical or scientifically sourced data valuable for basing future economic decisions on. Then on what are economic decisions supposed to be based on?"" We never make this claim. We couldn't make any claims about the future without some historical or scientifically sourced data because future predictions depend on interpretations of data. It is often charged that Austrians discard data and the real world, which is a false claim. There are still positivists who espouse the Austrian school, but a great many of us use praxeology as methodology, which consists of determining the logical implications of the fact that consciously carried-out action is purposeful. This doesn't mean we like to plug our ears are empirical evidence; that which is true a priori cannot be refuted by the real world after all.",,Anonymous,austrian_vs_keynesian.jpg,R1hsQxL8kZd6knO1Wh/oog==,,,1500858789 134704675,134729232,2017-07-24 01:13:21,">>134728143 I feel for you there. Give it time, eventually it'll go too far and there'll be revolt. Until then, use a VPN, and speak your mind in the only nation guaranteeing true freedom: the internet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500858801 134704675,134729315,2017-07-24 01:14:38,">>134729217 >1 post by this id >49 minutes ago Obviously wasn't interested in the discussion, because I already tried.",,Anonymous,155855050_481aa47835-e1343152676415.jpg,sEuy55DzutKq1kvCyEk2Kg==,,,1500858878 134704675,134729439,2017-07-24 01:16:22,">>134728980 Evidence fag? Show me the link between libertarianism and Zionism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500858982 134704675,134729737,2017-07-24 01:20:27,">>134728980 Fuck off",,Anonymous,libertarianism and zionism.png,al+7MIsDMwLL/s3dnc9UYQ==,,,1500859227 134704675,134729949,2017-07-24 01:23:24,">>134728782 >all men have right We disagree on the definition on what a man is at our core you see. Yes capitalistic jews will get the heli. We are infected woth nigs and commies and spics because of them. Are you from reddit? Nazi want a unified people and get the heli if the want to unite my covenant. Republicunts are mostly traitors as they've already been bought, the dems are the same. Slightly lefties are basically kids and if you kill kids nothing is moral after. Im sorry if the solution necessary is a brutal one. But your method will get us another war of southern independence. We both know the most vilified countries in the world are ones that dont bow to the redshields Now. Are you gonna stop pretending to be stupid?",,Anonymous,1494023946399.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,US,,1500859404 134704675,134730232,2017-07-24 01:26:52,">>134729949 Are fags really as bad as commies?",,Anonymous,Ifoundbambi510x600.jpg,/o8S62qGqDS3Uk0mmoVogg==,CA,,1500859612 134704675,134730345,2017-07-24 01:28:20,">>134729949 Yeah your a cryto fascist, im not gonna reply to your shitty posts anymore. enjoy your 20 people covenant i'll enjoy my million strong society mostly full of white people loving their freedom shame your 20 population will have to be cut down to 10 when you realize half of them aren't as radical",,Anonymous,,,,,1500859700 134704675,134730381,2017-07-24 01:28:46,">>134730232 Depends on whose property you're on. On mine? Nah. I don't care what goes in your ass, as long as it's not anything I own. >the joys of ancapism",,Anonymous,16835855_10207969030813968_3047830735914511670_o.jpg,D+3HIY4et3tkstVrywjdeA==,,,1500859726 134704675,134730415,2017-07-24 01:29:08,">>134730232 Definitely not",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500859748 134704675,134730918,2017-07-24 01:35:32,">>134730381 finally some sense from some of my other fellow ancaps instead of this ""Not a nazi I swear I just kill everyone who disagrees with me and if your morally slightly less pure then me you die"" If he wants that he can join the fascists I don't like them but from what propaganda I've heard it sounds like their not commie tier controlling so he can live there with all your other anti-freedom faggots and jerk off to semi freedom among all his other dick cunts just not on my property and the free market would sort you on. Feels good to experience true freedom without hurting others while protecting mine",,Anonymous,,,,,1500860132 134704675,134731269,2017-07-24 01:39:57,">>134730918 A lot of the problem is people look up to Hoppe as some model for how an ancap society should run. And sure, that'll work for some people. But I'd much rather be left to my own devices. That's the whole idea. Physical removal is a dead meme the fascists cooked up to slap a shiny label on ""it's not violating the NAP if they're a commie"". What you do on your property is your business, but don't expect me to adopt it because ""It's totally ancapism""",,Anonymous,,,,,1500860397 134704675,134731576,2017-07-24 01:44:48,I want as much market freedom as possible. But I also want a state for vital infrastructure and a moderate amount of policing just enough such that order is maintained. What do they call people with with these ideals?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500860688 134704675,134731700,2017-07-24 01:46:41,">>134731576 Counteractive and you need to read more ancap, other then that Minachism",,Anonymous,,,,,1500860801 134704675,134731898,2017-07-24 01:49:31,">>134731576 For the most part, minarchism. But the problem with that is once you leave the power in the hands of the government, it'll never satiate itself with what it has. It just isn't enough to have police and infrastructure. It's never enough.",,Anonymous,1368482944515.jpg,GOst44udR83smCMfx4t6Hw==,,,1500860971 134704675,134732221,2017-07-24 01:54:55,">>134731269 well what do we do? I mean it's good meme that gets people knowing about us and it's nice to joke sometimes and it makes commies scared. Do we just leave it and see how it goes I don't want to hurt out movement in the slightest I want it to grow and flourish and spread glorious freedom and yellow flags and snakes. But at the same time I don't really want this bastion of freedom turning into bastion of freedom only if your a super right wing fundamentalist christian who advocates for the ""not state"" to execute all dissidents. inb4 ur a commie or a left libertarian No I just recognize they wouldn't succeed in a free market but they're welcome to their own freedom if they want to but I'm still gonna be more armed and since I'm more economically successful they'll fail then adopt my society's free values or not get any food since lol no markets, and all of this without the need for a eternal gas chamber and constant killing of anyone who slightly disagrees with me You can run your own hoppen covenant though and your more then welcome too in my society just don't take mine or any of my communities freedoms away",,Anonymous,,,,,1500861295 134704675,134732481,2017-07-24 01:58:59,">>134732221 What you do is debate, and debait, these arguments, just like any other stance. Use the same logic and philosophy that started the movement. Same thing with the ""taxation is theft"" meme. It's great to get attention, but that's about it. Taxation is not theft, depending on the kind. Civil asset forfeiture and income taxation is very much theft, and extortion. Wave the flags and debate the fags, and let the invisible hand do the rest.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500861539 134704675,134732568,2017-07-24 02:00:07,">>134710855 What discord?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500861607 134704675,134732653,2017-07-24 02:01:11,do you really being racist is facist?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500861671 134704675,134732934,2017-07-24 02:05:38,">>134732653 No, if you want your own racist town you gather up all your other like minded people and make your own town, good on you I say Going out and attacking the neighboring town because they harbor a small black population or going and shelling + systemically executing some homosexuals, weed smokers or people quarter spic or something is fascist under a different name There's a non aggression pact for a good god damm reason",,Anonymous,,,,,1500861938 134704675,134733616,2017-07-24 02:15:37,">>134732653 >>134732934 >shhhhhhh >nap isn't for communists goy >good goyim, throw that communist faggot out a helicopter Made this because I wanted to, even if it doesn't relate. /lrg/ is on its last legs, just trying to keep it alive.",,Anonymous,don't look at me goyim.jpg,r0CHu49yRTOzOd5fCxK1sw==,,,1500862537 134704675,134734047,2017-07-24 02:22:28,"Did i ever say death squads? the question was if there was cancer in MY covenant would i remove. The answer is yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500862948 134704675,134734542,2017-07-24 02:30:01,">>134734047 Well that's your Covenant and your free to expel them if you own the land, however you just can't kill them unless they refuse to leave or start going apeshit and burning the place down. And you absolutely cannot attack a neighboring town if it was a ""peaceful"" Black town or something.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500863401 134704675,134735555,2017-07-24 02:45:13,"We will see when the inevitable raiders come from that village. I am looking at the entirety of africa and ghetto america as my example. Remember ""kill the Boer"" you will be welcome into my village if that time comes. But leave amy ideas of egalitarianism at the village gates",,Anonymous,1482560352541.jpg,i5gyLIWDIVneA3yXPg+EkA==,US,,1500864313 134704675,134735900,2017-07-24 02:51:01,">>134735555 more fucking strawmen. Ancap isn't open borders and if it got that bad multiple communities would join up and fight them off with superior,training,tech and spirit. While still allowing their members of the communities freedom without having your brother executed because he did drugs once or had a mixed child. Seems to me this hoppen shit relies on strawmanning ancap into unrealistic expectations of mass open borders when no such thing would occur. >Yes truly I am free in this society if I do anything a fundamental christian disagrees with I get shot in the head. Surely I am just as free as the fascists",,Anonymous,,,,,1500864661 134704675,134736287,2017-07-24 02:57:57,">>134735900 Basically im qouting history amd saying your shit stinks. I sure as hell wouldn't bail you out whem it got bad. Kindness cost money and you can pay for my heli pmcs and provisions. After picking your thoughts tonight you should be fortunate im honor bound let you run massive debt with us due to your inevitable consumeristic life that will make the value of goods in village go up as on one the only few local producers of food and saftey",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500865077 134704675,134736355,2017-07-24 02:59:04,fuck why have libtards taken /pol/,,Anonymous,1500877506036.jpg,q9MynZUdXihosbBthEXq1w==,,,1500865144 134704675,134736557,2017-07-24 03:02:22,">>134736355 I don't know, why did you take /pol/?",,Anonymous,17190905_1870185249922845_41539536292333464_n.jpg,eq5kn6r0ye/zMYdL23bReA==,,,1500865342 134704675,134736610,2017-07-24 03:03:30,">>134736287 Mass immigration into ancap Any examples?!? Since when would a ancap town accept people without any trades or knowledge especially in huge numbers such as that and once reports of rapes began to spread not one would be accepted and the rest would be kicked out and border guards and watches would be set up. Seems to me like your strawmanning ancap into a stupid ideology and the only way to save it is to become ""Totally not nazis guize"" No one would invest in your shithole anyway since all the clever people would move to the better places and you'll be stuck with a bunch of retards waiting for ancap to collapse which it wouldn't because it's so successful >>134736355 >commie",,Anonymous,,,,,1500865410 134704675,134736696,2017-07-24 03:05:01,"148888 We must secure the existence of private property and a future for free markets. Heil Hans Hermann-Hoppe!",,Anonymous,Anarcho Fascism.jpg,qAILX28QTGVBbPxWZRTLKQ==,US,,1500865501 134704675,134736859,2017-07-24 03:07:55,">>134736696 as long as you stay to your property and do not break the nap that's fine",,Anonymous,,,,,1500865675 134704675,134737102,2017-07-24 03:11:44,">>134736696 Yeah, sure thing buddy.",,Anonymous,b8.png,sdmN3DV3xyzcI6sPOf2mVg==,,,1500865904 134704675,134737307,2017-07-24 03:15:23,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-22-03.58.35.png,igkH/D0N43vuCaW4s3Vqjg==,US,,1500866123 134704675,134737636,2017-07-24 03:21:03,,,Anonymous,1500846504418m.jpg,HhobU00CfjXpuE9AdlgNDA==,US,,1500866463 134704675,134737889,2017-07-24 03:26:21,,,Anonymous,1500846561932.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1500866781 134704675,134738152,2017-07-24 03:31:38,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-22-09.13.52.jpg,1fGNOuCpIw+C7JF5q4k48w==,US,,1500867098 134889413,134889413,2017-07-25 12:23:54,,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,,,1500985434 134889413,134889446,2017-07-25 12:24:16,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1500985456 134889413,134889476,2017-07-25 12:24:31,"name one successful libertarian society i'll wait",,Anonymous,XRgqv9qF8MU.jpg,wcA+ZeOSGcnPOP63v+82iA==,CA,,1500985471 134889413,134889740,2017-07-25 12:27:39,">>134889476 Celtic Iceland >>134889413 Why'd you butcher the pastebin?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500985659 134889413,134889899,2017-07-25 12:29:18,When are we offering free heli rides to all commie leafs?,,Anonymous,hoppe_frog.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,US,,1500985758 134889413,134890086,2017-07-25 12:31:01,">>134889740 Details? >>134889899 There are less communists here than you think.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1500985861 134889413,134890137,2017-07-25 12:31:44,">>134889740 It's my paste nigga. I play it fast and loose. >>134889899 Now anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500985904 134889413,134890578,2017-07-25 12:37:15,,,Anonymous,1500336443644.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,US,,1500986235 134889413,134890584,2017-07-25 12:37:19,">>134890086 >Details? Iceland had a libertarian-style polycentric legal system. Probably a few books on it, certainly it's a widely used example of the success of such a system.",,Anonymous,ancap_reading.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,GB,,1500986239 134889413,134891264,2017-07-25 12:45:39,,,Anonymous,mysoul.jpg,tZb3OTJW97KynxtxpFt1tQ==,US,,1500986739 134889413,134891398,2017-07-25 12:47:08,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1500986828 134889413,134891474,2017-07-25 12:48:00,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (7).png,Ps0EkdLm4GTSaTkGmxi0Gw==,US,,1500986880 134889413,134891535,2017-07-25 12:48:39,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1500986919 134889413,134892285,2017-07-25 12:57:29,">>134891535 >/pol/'s right-wing literature downloads Where would this be?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500987449 134889413,134892696,2017-07-25 13:01:48,">>134892285 The link is dead and I haven't found a replacement, however all of not most of Hoppe and Rothbards books I shill can be found at libertarianright.org/reading as posted in the OP",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1500987708 134889413,134892790,2017-07-25 13:02:59,,,Anonymous,ancap gf 2.jpg,RfrV7ItXGqjolez3pZlYsQ==,,,1500987779 134889413,134892982,2017-07-25 13:05:31,">>134892790 >Prenup 10/10",,Anonymous,QM_Ancap_Frog.png,XAkuOPnb8BWx6di3GBoPuw==,US,,1500987931 134889413,134893083,2017-07-25 13:06:49,">>134892696 Thanks. :)",,Anonymous,,,,,1500988009 134889413,134893992,2017-07-25 13:18:21,"When I debate people of the State exists, or not, I usually compare it to religion (most young people in Denmark are atheists.) It usually goes: >the state doesn't exist >b-but government buildings and employees! >are churches and priests the sole proof of religion/God? How would you explain the non-existence of the State to a religious person?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500988701 134889413,134894282,2017-07-25 13:21:43,">>134893992 The state does exist. Does it not? Abstract as it may be there are real institutions and people who impose their will on others that we refer to as the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500988903 134889413,134894623,2017-07-25 13:26:04,">>134894282 >that we refer to as the state Yes, we refer to it as ""the State,"" but that doesn't prove that the State exists materially (that's what I'm arguing.) Only the individuals, e.g. police officers, politicians, etc. exists, but the State (which they say they represent) doesn't.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500989164 134889413,134894757,2017-07-25 13:27:51,">>134894623 Do you mean the mysticism of 'for the State' or 'for the Greater Good'? Obviously the state exists, but this sort of higher meaning of society and state often used by anti-individualists like fascists is pure bollocks.",,Anonymous,file.png,7GVs+5g4R2mezKegzCC5+g==,GB,,1500989271 134889413,134895093,2017-07-25 13:31:58,">>134894623 I think AnCaps get trapped in the ""individuals only"" mindset, while I cannot deny that the state is not an individual entity or that ""collectives don't exist"". it's also undeniable that individuals act differently when they're involved in these collectives and that their individual actions can be shown to be motivated by a central or group interest. You can say slavery doesn't exist, but the relation of the master and slave is very real.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500989518 134889413,134895311,2017-07-25 13:34:36,">>134894757 >Do you mean the mysticism of 'for the State' or 'for the Greater Good'? Obviously the state exists, but this sort of higher meaning of society and state often used by anti-individualists like fascists is pure bollocks. No really. I don't think the argument ""for the greater good,"" is a legitimate reason to violate the NAP. But I also disagree that the state exists materially. It only exists as a concept (or as a relation, as >>134895093 pointed out.)",,Anonymous,ancap_andy.jpg,nJJiImciDuRCuXn4r+lycw==,,,1500989676 134889413,134895333,2017-07-25 13:34:55,">>134895311 Not really*",,Anonymous,,,,,1500989695 134889413,134895611,2017-07-25 13:38:10,">>134889476 Name one successful AUTHORITARIAN society. Exactly leaf, they all crumple because people don't like being told what to do.",,Anonymous,Leaf-Day-o-Reconing.jpg,0mLjJJELe/R/3QnDd/LX4g==,US,,1500989890 134889413,134896279,2017-07-25 13:45:40,">>134895611 They last long enough for them to claim it a success. Monarchies did pretty well. Though they're less intrusive than modern authoritarian states.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500990340 134889413,134896738,2017-07-25 13:50:43,,,Anonymous,govtdindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1500990643 134889413,134896901,2017-07-25 13:52:29,">>134889476 Early America Roman Empire in times of peace",,Anonymous,NuclearFamily.png,/PFisVd1DHBNSZhaEsZ26A==,US,,1500990749 134889413,134896970,2017-07-25 13:53:10,">>134896279 They did, for a while. But the moment they stepped to far. the people would always revolt (EX: French Revolution, American Revolution, etc.) Also, the second the industrial revolution came along and boosted the quality of life for the average Joe, most people started demanding more and more. Voting rights for women, sewage systems, Etc. So, regardless, in the modern world I think that since we've all gotten a taste of a life of luxury, we would hate to regress back to anything even remotely authoritarian. (except for the SJWs; those people are corupted beyond belief).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500990790 134889413,134897048,2017-07-25 13:54:02,">>134889413 Heads up: the Mises Institute is doing live lectures as part of their ""Mises University"" event. It's streaming on youtube. I'm sure some of you will be interested.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-07-25_13-53-29.png,g3VEfAXzUSFUoWemX2bAmg==,,,1500990842 134889413,134897238,2017-07-25 13:56:15,">>134889476 Well, we know that capitalism works, and we know that highly decentralized societies work. Anarchocapitalism is just that taken to its logical conclusion. There's a few very interesting historical examples of anarchocapitalist principles at work. There's the Wild West (not actually that wild, it was pretty peaceful there). There's Celtic Ireland, which had competing chieftains and a king whose only political function was to coordinate military defenses. There was also the Icelandic Commonwealth, which also had competing chieftains, and the only central authority was a gathering that the chieftains attended, but there was no king at all. Somalia is sometimes named, although it still has tribes and states, like Galmudug and Puntland, so I wouldn't count it (although it does demonstrate that sometimes, a central government sucks compared to just letting niggers be niggers). There was another society in Southeast China, a book was written about it but I haven't read it. And there's Pennsylvania from 1681 to 1690, which had no functioning government at all and things went wonderful.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500990975 134889413,134897859,2017-07-25 14:02:43,">>134896970 The monarchy before the French Revolution wasn't so bad. It was actually nicer than the post-revolutionary period for decades to come. Same with the October Revolution. The American Revolution is something else entirely. The people were estranged from the king of a country that didn't want them to begin with, but they still had a pretty good life. It was more of a war for independence and not so much a revolution, and it absolutely cannot be compared to the French Revolution. The French were proles throwing shitfits because they dreamed of utopia, the Americans were just whigs wanting their independence. Alexander Hamilton even wanted the President to be an elected monarch for life.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500991363 134889413,134899041,2017-07-25 14:15:34,">>134897859 1. >It was actually nicer than the post-revolutionary period for decades to come Yes, but that's because their entire movement was co-opted by Napolian, who (as we both know) started multiple wars of territorial expansion before a European coalition but them in their place and razed the cities (twice). 2. >Same with the October Revolution In general concept (down with the power and instate a new one; yes), but the outcome of the october revolution restricted people's economic and social rights, where as the outcome of the French Revolution was decriminalizing homosexuality, legalizing divorce (hey, i never said all of these were good), and making slavery illegal. 3. >The American Revolution is something else entirely I don't agree with that. The colonists were being exploited by the UK (in terms of taxes, regular home invasions with no court order, inability to speak critically of the Crown, you get the point). I find it very similar to the French Rev. even though their outcomes diverge on a detailed level (by that i mean, for instance, the French ended slavery, the US didn't, etc.)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500992134 134889413,134899176,2017-07-25 14:17:01,,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1500992221 134889413,134899845,2017-07-25 14:24:26,,,Anonymous,19437716_1604033819655007_8869932370820195295_n.png,J6hye+Y8N8XZVH/ouKQyyA==,US,,1500992666 134889413,134900633,2017-07-25 14:33:58,,,Anonymous,uemcuyhctlny_0.jpg,sOm38TbG5utcf9F/zKBkpw==,US,,1500993238 134889413,134901476,2017-07-25 14:43:21,"Question for non hoppes If commies move next door and start preaching their message on your covenants ""common"" ground Do you remove.? If a members sells his propery to a nigger that start polluting and slinging crack. Do you remove? I say yes",,Anonymous,snek_2.png,HSRhqXOosdCV80w46sJgZQ==,US,,1500993801 134889413,134902017,2017-07-25 14:49:03,">>134901476 Copypasting from a response I wrote a couple nights ago: The contract says ""We all agree not to sell to niggers or felons. We all agree to not freeload on defense insurance etc. This contract must be transferred to the next owner. Breaking this contract is tantamount to theft of $10k from each other signatory."" If someone breaks the contract, which he has every right to do, he will have to pay damages. Underwriters will secure the contract for a certain fee, maybe $50 per party. Insurance companies will try to get people to sign such contracts because it increases property values, reduces crime etc for free. Yes, for just the cost of the paper. A house is more valuable if there's a guarantee of good neighbors. So in addition to heavily disincentivizing the sale, even if this crack smoking nig moves in, homeowners are compensated for the damage he's doing to the community. If you want a tighter guarantee, just pick a community with a larger bond, although the underwriting will be more expensive. But that's a price you're willing to pay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500994143 134889413,134902189,2017-07-25 14:50:48,,,Anonymous,Ancap.png,73ZPp4Rfr0HpsynkzPl1jw==,US,,1500994248 134889413,134902450,2017-07-25 14:53:04,">>134902017 He is a nigger. he wont pay. Assume that for some reason there is no local insurance company to meditate, he accepts no meditated resolution and continues",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500994384 134889413,134902722,2017-07-25 14:55:42,,,Anonymous,no s.jpg,FQ2Co3lFRpNANqv/RqMw1w==,,,1500994542 134889413,134902850,2017-07-25 14:56:55,">>134895611 >Name one successful AUTHORITARIAN society. Exactly leaf, they all crumple because people don't like being told what to do. singapore.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1500994615 134889413,134903027,2017-07-25 14:58:38,"In >>134890584's pic related, which order should one read? Should I finish the columns (""Ethics & Law"", ""Statism Critics"" and ""Economics"") separately, or the rows (""Novice"", ""Beginner"" and ""Proficient"")?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500994718 134889413,134903062,2017-07-25 14:59:06,">>134902450 You misunderstand. The original owner is prevented from selling. It's the original owner who has to pay the bond for breach of contract. He can certainly roll that into the asking price of the property if he wants, although this puts him at a disadvantage in the market. Also, in the case that the original owner refuses to pay the fee, as I said >Underwriters will secure the contract for a certain fee Do you understand the role of the underwriter? You wouldn't join a covenant community if their covenant isn't secured would you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500994746 134889413,134903611,2017-07-25 15:04:18,">>134903027 I usually read by what interests me. If you want a proper education I'd read one of each column. I don't know how well read you are. If you've read nothing start with ""anatomy of the state"" it's short and easy reading.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500995058 134889413,134903858,2017-07-25 15:06:44,"Reminder that this is live >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=howO1xHIe2U Had a peak viewership of about 140. Come hand out.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-07-25_15-04-43.png,0odf/2j+t0Zv4RB0GwIRzg==,US,,1500995204 134889413,134903923,2017-07-25 15:07:25,">>134899041 >Yes, but that's because their entire movement was co-opted by Napolian The French Revolution was degenerate to begin with. It was based on the ideas of guys like Rousseau and de Sade, the former a hopeless romanticist and neurotic, the latter a criminally insane sexual deviant, rapist and . Mob violence went rampant, up to three-hundred thousand people were killed before Napoleon even entered the scene, prisons were emptied and the prisoners mercilessly slaughtered, innocent people were tied up and thrown in the river, ""infernal columns"" (that was their actual name) raped and murdered with impunity... And for what? Like I said, people weren't doing better after the French Revolution. They got dragged into the Napoleonic Wars, conscription was introduced to Europe, the media were censored, and living standards decreased for a good fifty years compared to pre-revolutionary France. Even socialism can be traced back to the French Revolution, as well as other ideologies that deny the sanctity of human life. And yes, the Americans were exploited. Not as bad the Britains themselves, though. The geographic distance alone made sure that it couldn't hit the Americans as bad as the Britains, yet they rebelled and not the Brits. Although I like the War of Independence, it's a just war if there ever was one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500995245 134889413,134903991,2017-07-25 15:08:00,">>134903858 >Come hand out ...I mean... come HANG out. I'm not a commie. I swear. pls no physical remove.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500995280 134889413,134904033,2017-07-25 15:08:25,,,Anonymous,1484458284351.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1500995305 134889413,134904065,2017-07-25 15:08:42,">>134903611 Right now I'm reading ""Against the State,"" but I've also read ""Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature"" and ""Chaos Theory."" Those are the only ""ancap"" books I've read. But I've definitely look into ""Anatomy of the state,"" thanks for the tip.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500995322 134889413,134904066,2017-07-25 15:08:42,">>134889413 >Murray (((Rothbard)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500995322 134889413,134904331,2017-07-25 15:10:59,">>134902850 >Singapore >established by the British as a colony. Any coincidence between British rule and high development? Oh wait, probably shouldn't be asking a nation who's only colony is now the top 20 for infant mortality...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500995459 134889413,134904410,2017-07-25 15:11:51,">>134904066 >An honorary white, savior of Western liberty and civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500995511 134889413,134904568,2017-07-25 15:13:21,">>134889413 Lolbertarians, hate communists but worship Jewish economists. Idiots.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500995601 134889413,134904756,2017-07-25 15:15:08,">>134904568 Agreeing with arguments doesn't equal worship.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500995708 134889413,134904826,2017-07-25 15:15:52,">>134903923 Fine, I'll give you that point. >Not as bad the Britains themselves, though What exactly do you mean by that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500995752 134889413,134904868,2017-07-25 15:16:20,How does /lrg/ feel toward Rand Paul?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500995780 134889413,134904884,2017-07-25 15:16:32,">>134904568 You will know the vengeance of goyish capitalism.",,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1500995792 134889413,134904922,2017-07-25 15:16:56,Any thoughts on Chapo Trap House? It is a collection of progressive writers who made a podcast where they mock anyone to the right of Bernie. They seem funny enough but their analyses are generally simplistic,,Anonymous,1392578382930.gif,uDeCZ8EWAZNybzLBVMkoeA==,US,,1500995816 134889413,134905008,2017-07-25 15:17:49,">>134904868 Can never replace Ron. Cucks quite a bit, but is good on policy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500995869 134889413,134905243,2017-07-25 15:20:21,">>134904922 >Watching leftist podcasts.",,Anonymous,Hoppe (2).jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1500996021 134889413,134905641,2017-07-25 15:23:44,">>134904568 We hate communism for what it entails, and so we hate communists. We like what free market capitalism entails, so we like the Jewish economists who espouse the free market. Kys",,Anonymous,,,,,1500996224 134889413,134905701,2017-07-25 15:24:14,">>134905243 I try not to let myself get blindsided by other group's criticisms of my view.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500996254 134889413,134905843,2017-07-25 15:25:37,">>134905701 This. And that's damn hard. Like you color btw.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500996337 134889413,134906032,2017-07-25 15:27:27,">>134905843 thx. That podcast is sort of easy to listen to since half the time they are ripping on obama/hillary/jeb/bill kristol which I am totally on board with",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500996447 134889413,134906416,2017-07-25 15:31:11,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Jojo.png,ApVmsBijLAoa+GyahzXVBg==,,,1500996671 134889413,134906540,2017-07-25 15:32:20,">>134889413 libertarians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSHlVLRawIg",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1500996740 134889413,134906620,2017-07-25 15:33:11,">>134905641 >we like the Jewish economists It's you that needs to kill yourself trusting the Jew, very stupid.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500996791 134889413,134907272,2017-07-25 15:39:00,">>134905701 I guess I'm jaded, I just assume leftists need to be eradicated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500997140 134889413,134907726,2017-07-25 15:43:16,">>134907272 So do ancaps.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500997396 134889413,134907851,2017-07-25 15:44:19,">>134889740 >Celtic Iceland >>134896901 >Roman Empire in times of peace Y'all need to learn some history Also, remember to TREAD. P.S. No capitalist society has ever worked. Especially for its people. > But muh early mercantile companies South sea bubble > Colonial america Was full of many a slave based quasi-aristocratic mercantile republic that failed (several times). > Modern US Is leading the world towards massive ecologically - induced death > CHYNA Is not capitalist. Large companies there may look it, but are still tied to a very long-winded plan. The hundred year strategy will be the finishing kick to capitalism's teeth.",,Anonymous,tread.webm,FDo2KdmCFItDgUwZFU6TTQ==,,,1500997459 134889413,134908003,2017-07-25 15:45:50,">>134907851 Read Mises.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500997550 134889413,134908100,2017-07-25 15:46:39,">>134907726 You can't eradicate me if I physically remove you first.",,Anonymous,1491777081387.gif,ufUyAuuCSdPNNfcXgs29jA==,US,,1500997599 134889413,134908161,2017-07-25 15:47:18,">>134907726 And especially ""natsocs"" ""fascists"" and all the rest of em. A free world is a Green world.",,Anonymous,1200px-Green_and_Black_flag.svg.png,qBCHmPpL1DWZLsDe+VsvFA==,,,1500997638 134889413,134908318,2017-07-25 15:48:59,">>134908161 Lol are you for real?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500997739 134889413,134908408,2017-07-25 15:49:45,">>134907272 yeah that is my default half of the time, but I try to keep up with their current nonsense so I never am at a disadvantage in a debate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500997785 134889413,134908671,2017-07-25 15:52:20,">>134908100 You'd probably have to physically remove your blinkers and the carrot in your arse first",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500997940 134889413,134908721,2017-07-25 15:52:57,">>134908003 Ah yes, Mises. The son of a ""court Jew"" that would become himself a ""corporate Jew"" (note I'm not pissing on jews here - just the pets of first aristocratic courts and later corporate boardrooms that rode their masters coattails to academic proeminence).",,Anonymous,,,,,1500997977 134889413,134908852,2017-07-25 15:54:11,">>134908721 The man that destroyed any form of leftism and collectivism, yes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500998051 134889413,134908972,2017-07-25 15:55:25,">>134908318 That flag doesen't mean what you think it means. Green anarchy is not anarcho-primitivism. It's a technologically driven, ecologically based direct democracy.",,Anonymous,when-youre-out-hunting-and-lightning-strikes-the-abandoned-icbm-3467624.png,cKjKLAvshZtn7WY2oV9+Uw==,,,1500998125 134889413,134909041,2017-07-25 15:56:03,,,Anonymous,1500846561932.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1500998163 134889413,134909091,2017-07-25 15:56:37,">>134908852 >Jew >Man Pick one.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500998197 134889413,134909263,2017-07-25 15:58:10,">>134906620 If you found out toilet paper was invented by a Jew, would you stop wiping your ass? While we put thought into our beliefs, you run around screaming ""KIKE! KIKE!"" the moment you see that Jews are involved in something, while not even understanding what that something is. Gas yourself, faggot. You have the critical thinking ability of a child",,Anonymous,image.jpg,mcrnr0otc0nM+RZyumF2gA==,,,1500998290 134889413,134909560,2017-07-25 16:01:11,">>134908100 >>134909263 Guys, don't feed the shill.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500998471 134889413,134909804,2017-07-25 16:03:54,">>134909263 Never happen, Jews never invent anything just steal ideas from white people.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500998634 134889413,134910042,2017-07-25 16:06:23,So I've tried reading Human Action a few times and keep finding it too dry and abstract. Is there a good site that breaks down this book in a more digestable way?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500998783 134889413,134910051,2017-07-25 16:06:31,">>134909804 >Australians >White I am lmfaoing at you ""mate"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500998791 134889413,134910075,2017-07-25 16:06:46,">>134909263 Your beliefs are selfish, childish and total unrealistic and all you deserve is ridicule. You are not worthy to engage with seriously. Go and jerk off on your picture of Ayn Rand again Jew lover.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500998806 134889413,134910617,2017-07-25 16:12:08,">>134910042 Try reading ""Man, Economy, and State"" by Murray Rothbard first. That'll introduce you to praxeology and give you an understanding of Austrian theory. Then try reading Human Action",,Anonymous,,,,,1500999128 134889413,134911011,2017-07-25 16:15:31,">>134910042 >Is there a good site that breaks down this book in a more digestable way? There's a book that does it - Choice by Murphy",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500999331 134889413,134911018,2017-07-25 16:15:37,">>134909804 >>134909804 Just because uncle Hitler said that that's so, doesn't make it so. >>134910075 >Your beliefs are selfish, childish and total unrealistic and all you deserve is ridicule. As selfish as forcing people to give up their labor and money at gunpoint? >You are not worthy to engage with seriously. Neither are you, but your head is too far up your ass to understand that >Go and jerk off on your picture of Ayn Rand again Jew lover. Not even a fan of Ayn Rand. Kill yourself, nigger",,Anonymous,,,,,1500999337 134889413,134911246,2017-07-25 16:17:39,">>134911018 >As selfish as forcing people to give up their labor and money at gunpoint? Lol and this will never happen under AnCap hey?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500999459 134889413,134911523,2017-07-25 16:20:10,">>134911018 What did I just fucking say?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500999610 134889413,134911541,2017-07-25 16:20:20,">>134911018 Capitalism is slavery, without government to restrain it it would enslave or kill everyone. That's what governments were created for, to protect people from predatory selfish greedy cunts with no empathy like you AnCaps.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1500999620 134889413,134911565,2017-07-25 16:20:38,">>134911246 It won't be worshipped as a virtue as you currently do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500999638 134889413,134911632,2017-07-25 16:21:11,">>134911523 Nah man. It's good for a bump and debunking shit memes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500999671 134889413,134912078,2017-07-25 16:25:15,">>134911541 >Capitalism is slavery, without government to restrain it it would enslave or kill everyone. Funny how its the government that's doing exactly what you think corporations in a free market would do. >That's what governments were created for, to protect people from predatory selfish greedy cunts with no empathy like you AnCaps. And look at how well that's turned out. Governments that take deprive us of our liberties, conscript us for avoidable wars, and steal from our pockets clearly do care about us. The Satan-worshiping baby-fuckers and Jews in the government clearly do care about us. Put a bullet in your brain, buddy",,Anonymous,,,,,1500999915 134889413,134912189,2017-07-25 16:26:27,">>134912078 >Put a bullet in your brain That's not allowed without government permission.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500999987 134889413,134912216,2017-07-25 16:26:47,">>134912189 Kek.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501000007 134889413,134912233,2017-07-25 16:26:54,">>134911565 Beat your own strawman kikd. You never asked about my position, just because I don't like AnCaps it doesn't logically follow that I am a statist or approve of state crime. Reminder, the state has become a tool of capitalism. See ""The Creature From Jekyll Island""",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501000014 134889413,134912373,2017-07-25 16:28:19,">>134912078 That would be the government that was corrupted by capitalism and turned against it's people.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501000099 134889413,134912446,2017-07-25 16:29:01,">>134912233 Why would I ask you about your position when you already said you are not going to engage us seriously? Fuck off. Idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501000141 134889413,134912481,2017-07-25 16:29:18,">>134912233 >See ""The Creature From Jekyll Island"" For the last time: CENTRAL BANKS ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE FREE MARKET.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501000158 134889413,134912531,2017-07-25 16:29:49,">>134912373 What if capitalism got corrupted by the government and it turned against itself?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501000189 134889413,134912626,2017-07-25 16:30:50,">This whole thread >>>/lgbt/",,Anonymous,,,,,1501000250 134889413,134912718,2017-07-25 16:31:48,">>134912373 >That would be the government that was corrupted by capitalism and turned against it's people. What the hell are you talking about when you say ""capitalism""? You leftist idiots like to throw it around as though it's definition is ""anything that isn't communism"" or whatever the fuck. We're talking about the free market here, not your distorted view of capitalism which include oil wars and other dumb shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1501000308 134889413,134912929,2017-07-25 16:33:49,">>134889476 Hong Kong.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1501000429 134889413,134912995,2017-07-25 16:34:32,">>134912626 >A literal faggot Sorry fashy capitalists, it's just bantz",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501000472 134889413,134913015,2017-07-25 16:34:41,">>134912481 Central banks , or domination by banks are the definition of capitalism you retard.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501000481 134889413,134913118,2017-07-25 16:35:39,">>134912718 I'm not a leftist, I'm not a selfish spoiled little rich kid either.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501000539 134889413,134913128,2017-07-25 16:35:46,>>134913015,,Anonymous,GuP autism gif.gif,WsXezqesfhzRKoulBhqQ0A==,,,1501000546 134889413,134913131,2017-07-25 16:35:49,">>134913015 Welcome to abolish central banking general, idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501000549 134889413,134913172,2017-07-25 16:36:10,">>134913015 The free market you fuck. The free market. Not capitalism. Did I say capitalism? No. I said the free market. Learn to read you aussi fuck",,Anonymous,,,,,1501000570 134889413,134913274,2017-07-25 16:37:08,">>134913118 >I'm not a selfish spoiled little rich kid either. Neither am I. I just understand that a free market would improve my life far more than any government program would",,Anonymous,,,,,1501000628 134889413,134913505,2017-07-25 16:39:32,">>134913172 Did you ever stop to think about those words put together like that? ""free market"", since when was anything ever free at a market? What do you find at markets? Merchants. You don't beat the Jew by becoming him.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501000772 134889413,134913824,2017-07-25 16:42:47,">>134889476 Name one successful society of any kind, kike. They all crumble because of rejection of natural law.",,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,SK,,1501000967 134889413,134913914,2017-07-25 16:43:50,">>134913505 >""free market"", since when was anything ever free at a market? Irrelevant >What do you find at markets? >Merchants. A free market would allow a shit ton of more goys to thrive >You don't beat the Jew by becoming him. The Jew feeds off the government. The Jews have power because of the government. The central banks that they use to enslave us with endless debt exist because of governments. Corporations can grow to behemoth sizes because of governments. Corporations can have monopolies on resources because of governments. Fuck off with your bullshit, idiot",,Anonymous,,,,,1501001030 134889413,134914005,2017-07-25 16:44:40,">>134908100 sneks are cute! cute!",,Anonymous,,,,,1501001080 134889413,134914324,2017-07-25 16:47:48,">>134913914 Seeing the world in terms of nothing but economics just shows how deeply Jewed you Ancaps are and just how unaware of it you are. Money is the Jew's God, just as it is for AnCaps.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501001268 134889413,134914627,2017-07-25 16:50:50,">>134914324 Economics is about human action. You don't know shit about real Mon Eye.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501001450 134889413,134914647,2017-07-25 16:51:04,">>134908100 Cute! CUTE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501001464 134889413,134914714,2017-07-25 16:51:43,">>134914324 Economics is more important than you think. If you understood economics, you'd understand this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501001503 134889413,134914864,2017-07-25 16:53:00,">>134904066 If your sole criticism of Rothbard (pbuh) is centered around his Jewishness, then you lack an argument.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1501001580 134889413,134915106,2017-07-25 16:55:16,">>134914714 >>134914627 No, you just can't see how Jewed you are You are just proving my point, thanks. The Devil tarot card is worth studying.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501001716 134889413,134915268,2017-07-25 16:56:45,">>134915106 What objections do you have about Rothbard's economic arguments?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501001805 134889413,134915306,2017-07-25 16:57:02,">>134908721 >>134906620 >it's another episode of ""muh Jewish economists! What do I win?"" Economics is centered around acquisition of resources. There's one people of the world that are good at acquiring resources, and they have a certain prominent facial feature. They flock to the study of such acquisition like flies to shit, of course they're going to be overrepresented in such fields. Still, I prefer Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1501001822 134889413,134915482,2017-07-25 16:58:37,">>134915268 All of them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501001917 134889413,134915548,2017-07-25 16:59:16,">>134909804 Right, never invented anything but capitalism is totally a Jewish plot to make the white man rich and powerful due to selective environmental pressures... or something. No, they do invent stuff. Like communism, for instance - unlike capitalism, which mostly points to men like Adam Smith and Fréderic Bastiat, a Scot and a Frenchman, communism is tied to (((Karl Marx))).",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1501001956 134889413,134915799,2017-07-25 17:01:38,">>134915482 I asked you, about your objections (e.i. counter arguments,) not the amount of arguments you oppose.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501002098 134889413,134915816,2017-07-25 17:01:50,">>134915306 >>134915268 >>134914714 >>134914627 Man walking along a road in the countryside comes across a shepherd and a huge flock of sheep. Tells the shepherd, “I will bet you $100 against one of your sheep that I can tell you the exact number in this flock.” The shepherd thinks it over; it’s a big flock so he takes the bet. “973,” says the man. The shepherd is astonished, because that is exactly right. Says “OK, I’m a man of my word, take an animal.” Man picks one up and begins to walk away. “Wait,” cries the shepherd, “Let me have a chance to get even. Double or nothing that I can guess your exact occupation.” Man says sure. “You are an economist for a government think tank,” says the shepherd. “Amazing!” responds the man, “You are exactly right! But tell me, how did you deduce that?” “Well,” says the shepherd, “put down my dog and I will tell you.”",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501002110 134889413,134916157,2017-07-25 17:04:50,">>134915816 Still waiting for the objections, I'd like to have my limited knowledge on economics challenged.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501002290 134889413,134916193,2017-07-25 17:05:09,">>134915816 >government Good joke, otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1501002309 134889413,134916198,2017-07-25 17:05:12,"A true story: “I heard this from one of my professors. To protect him, no names will be revealed. This professor was about to get married. He went to the jewelers to get a wedding ring for his fiancee. The jeweler told him that he can have the inside of the ring engraved with the name of his fiancee for an additional $20 (remember, this was a LONG time ago). He said, “But that will reduce the resale value!” The jeweler was aghast. He said, “How can you say such a thing. You are a butcher!” “No,” replied the professor, “I am an economist”.”",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501002312 134889413,134916358,2017-07-25 17:06:45,">>134916157 >limited knowledge on economics good there is still hope for you. don't read economics, read physics, economics is fantasy fiction.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501002405 134889413,134916424,2017-07-25 17:07:16,">>134916193 Yeah saw that and should have taken it out.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501002436 134889413,134916604,2017-07-25 17:09:02,">>134916198 lol It's like say: ""we don't want to get married, it'll complicate things if we ever break up."" The couple is just stating, that they probably don't want to commit to anything important.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501002542 134889413,134916668,2017-07-25 17:09:45,"An economist was standing at the shore of a large lake, surf-casting. It was the middle of winter, and the lake was completely frozen over, but this didn’t seem to bother the economist, who stood there patiently casting his lure out across the ice, slowly reeling it in again, then repeating the process. A mathematical economist came sailing by on an ice boat, and pulled to the shore beside the surf-fishing economist to scoff. “You’ll never catch any fish that way,” said the mathematical economist. “Jump on my ice-boat and we’ll go trawling.”",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501002585 134889413,134916695,2017-07-25 17:10:01,">>134916424 But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo. >>134916358 A rejection of the study of human action is a rejection of the study of reality. It is like traversing a dark maze and finding a flashlight, but breaking it to pieces because you don't like technology.",,Anonymous,hoppeart.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,SK,,1501002601 134889413,134916867,2017-07-25 17:11:27,">>134916604 No you idiot it's saying that the economist is a heartless unfeeling monster. That you don't get the joke just proves my point about how Jewed you are, thanks again.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501002687 134889413,134917194,2017-07-25 17:14:33,">>134916358 >don't read economics, read physics, economics is fantasy fiction. I don't really enjoy physics. I mostly like ""logic"" (e.g. programming and philosophy.) Economy just comes with reading anarchism. >>134916867 Still waiting for the objections, that is, if you actually want a debate, and not just screaming ""Jew.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501002873 134889413,134917312,2017-07-25 17:15:21,,,Anonymous,1492211462256.jpg,A6aKichhXEZBj+D6x1vwyQ==,IE,,1501002921 134889413,134917325,2017-07-25 17:15:26,">>134916695 Could have but didn't, do your worst. Since when was economics anything like a realistic study of human activity?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501002926 134889413,134917887,2017-07-25 17:20:23,">>134917325 economics is literally a study of human action. >>134917312 >trying to make liberalism cool. It's not gonna happen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501003223 134889413,134918177,2017-07-25 17:22:55,">>134917887 Oh really? Where does religion, biology, geography and all the other missing bits economists ignore or pervert come in then? Just kill yourself you stupid spoiled heartless little worm.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501003375 134889413,134918335,2017-07-25 17:24:18,">>134917887 >trying to make an extremely immoral and parasitic society cool Not gonna happen bud.",,Anonymous,1486912192218.jpg,V6OGLeJ3WICN0UzLar1q3g==,IE,,1501003458 134889413,134918396,2017-07-25 17:24:55,">>134917887 Thanks for proving my point again BTW Ancaps are materialistic and complete Jewed to the core. Humanity > Economics",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501003495 134889413,134918621,2017-07-25 17:26:58,"A mathematician, a theoretical economist and an econometrician are asked to find a black cat (who doesn’t really exist) in a closed room with the lights off: - The mathematician gets crazy trying to find a black cat that doesn’t exist inside the darkened room and ends up in a psychiatric hospital. - The theoretical economist is unable to catch the black cat that doesn’t exist inside the darkened room, but exits the room proudly proclaiming that he can construct a model to describe all his movements with extreme accuracy. - The econometrician walks securely into the darkened room, spend one hour looking for the black cat that doesn’t exits and shouts from inside the room that he has it catched by the neck.”",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501003618 134889413,134918743,2017-07-25 17:28:15,Why was astrology invented? So economics would seem like an accurate science.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501003695 134889413,134918933,2017-07-25 17:29:57,">>134918396 I'll ask one more time before I go to bed: what are your objections to Rothbard's economic theories? You said you opposed all his arguments, so you must have a handful of rational counter arguments, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501003797 134889413,134919101,2017-07-25 17:31:32,">>134889413 I'm wondering why any of you think your opinions are ""politically incorrect""? There are so many areas in which you bitch about taxes around the internet, and yet you choose an explicitly nationalist board? Why?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501003892 134889413,134919158,2017-07-25 17:32:15,statists can't deal against ancaps,,Anonymous,dont tread on me.png,Q/yAUUWVfSMQWMMlOtQ/YQ==,,,1501003935 134889413,134919179,2017-07-25 17:32:29,">>134918177 Did you just pull that assumption out of your ass or what? When did any economist deny the affects of religion, biology, geography on human action? >>134918396 Economics is Human Action. listen bud, you can call me an inhuman no emotion savage all you want. I KNOW I have more SOUL than you. So whats your compassionate solution to letting people interact without coercion or violence? >>134918335 yeah just like Marx invented a new category of property to justify bullshit so does Curt.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501003949 134889413,134919358,2017-07-25 17:34:09,"Q: How many Chicago School economists does it take to change a light bulb? A: None. If the light bulb needed changing the market would have already done it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501004049 134889413,134919539,2017-07-25 17:35:45,">>134919101 >There are so many areas in which you bitch about taxes around the internet, and yet you choose an explicitly nationalist board? Why? I'd say for the unique counter arguments, if any actually shows up.",,Anonymous,heli0.png,WmrpHFbNlh7BwdP/rTpVfQ==,,,1501004145 134889413,134919548,2017-07-25 17:35:49,"Q: How many conservative economists does it take to change a light bulb? A1: None. The darkness will cause the light bulb to change by itself. A2: None. If it really needed changing, market forces would have caused it to happen. A3: None. If the government would just leave it alone, it would screw itself in. A4. None. “There is no need to change the light bulb. All the conditions for illumination are in place. A5. None, because, look! It’s getting brighter! It’s definitely getting brighter !!! A5. None; they’re all waiting for the unseen hand of the market to correct the lighting disequilibrium.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501004149 134889413,134919645,2017-07-25 17:36:46,">>134919101 ""politically incorrect"" refers to anything opposing leftist state narrative (originating from the soviet goverment) I don't think Voluntarism or Nationalism is edgy or in poor taste, I quite like both alot obviously. Thats why I'm here. /pol/ has always been a board of libertarians and nationalists. It probably always will be. I want it to stay that way. We don't decide what is politically incorrect. (((They do)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1501004206 134889413,134919931,2017-07-25 17:39:10,">>134919645 When push comes to shove, and I do mean, WHEN push comes to shove, would you march with national socialists, fascists, etc against the left? Which are you first? I guess that's my main concern with libertarians. For example, I don't believe in freedom of speech in the slightest. I think there should be an official religion. I think homosexuality should be a criminal offense. Are you against these sorts of things?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501004350 134889413,134920189,2017-07-25 17:41:36,"Experienced economist and not so experienced economist are walking down the road. They get across shit lying on the asphalt. Experienced economist: “If you eat it I’ll give you $20,000!” Not so experienced economist runs his optimization problem and figures out he’s better off eating it so he does and collects money. Continuing along the same road they almost step into yet another shit. Not so experienced economist: “Now, if YOU eat this shit I’ll give YOU \$20,000.” After evaluating the proposal experienced economist eats shit getting the money. They go on. Not so experienced economist starts thinking: “Listen, we both have the same amount of money we had before, but we both ate shit. I don’t see us being better off.” Experienced economist: “Well, that’s true, but you overlooked the fact that we’ve been just involved in $40,000 of trade.”",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501004496 134889413,134920419,2017-07-25 17:43:42,"An economist is someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. AnCaps exactly.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501004622 134889413,134920522,2017-07-25 17:44:32,">>134919931 Damn right I'd march against the left. If its us or them the choice is clear. I don't believe in an abstract ""freedom of speach"" thats liberals. I think religion is good. Homosexuality bad. I just think that Natural Law will punish degenerates plenty and that the state doesn't need to enforce eugenics or welfare.",,Anonymous,xwYSdbT.jpg,so0HH5YuIBw1DatKVUVCDg==,,,1501004672 134889413,134920699,2017-07-25 17:46:17,">>134892790 You mean this one?",,Anonymous,IMG_0802.jpg,sd0yCwfUXGkASgRJnlkWIg==,US,,1501004777 134889413,134920873,2017-07-25 17:47:47,">>134919931 >would you march with national socialists, fascists, etc against the left? If I could only choose between right-wing authoritarianism and left-wing authoritarianism, I'd choose the former. I'm only against immoral acts (e.i. rape, murder, theft and assault,) this can be boiled down to the NAP. Since neither sexuality, speech or ""freedom of"" religion violates the NAP, I could not morally use force to stop anyone from performing those actions (although some of them might disgust me.) >>134920522 >I just think that Natural Law will punish degenerates plenty and that the state doesn't need to enforce eugenics or welfare. I'm assuming this would happen as well. When degenerate women can't get married with the State (welfare,) they need to fix them selves if they wish to have a man, or their genes will die out.",,Anonymous,1495484384712.jpg,X/lUz8+ZoYKgoXJxttdPjQ==,,,1501004867 134889413,134921608,2017-07-25 17:55:07,">>134912078 if you actually study the numbers from the early 1900's you will realize coporations were pretty much fucking everyone out of their money and women and children were working for pretty much slave wages ""A large number of women of eighteen years of age and upward are employed at very low wages; it is indisputable that a great part of them are receiving compensation that is inadequate to meet the neces- sary cost of living"" https://archive.org/stream/cu31924001727316/cu31924001727316_djvu.txt Grow up faggit libertarians. life before government regulations in the market was fucking hell. stop reading mises and rothbard and read the actual data from the time period. its all free on archive.org..",,Anonymous,,,,,1501005307 134889413,134921613,2017-07-25 17:55:11,">>134919179 >invent a category He didn't anything, an individual making a claim in a court attempts to.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1501005311 134889413,134921661,2017-07-25 17:55:40,">>134921613 *invent anything",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1501005340 134889413,134922126,2017-07-25 17:59:40,">>134921613 please tell me more of what Curt considers property outside of physical property. and how he demonstraits it to be so.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1501005580 134889413,134922428,2017-07-25 18:02:32,">>134921608 The commie faggot is right about this.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501005752 134889413,134922602,2017-07-25 18:04:11,">>134922428 And you're not a commie faggot?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501005851 134889413,134922700,2017-07-25 18:04:58,">>134920873 >When degenerate women can't get married with the State (welfare,) they need to fix them selves if they wish to have a man, or their genes will die out. Nature is fascist. God bless us.",,Anonymous,pat my hat.png,D4ewwUxCS+FLo2BZ6FX61Q==,,,1501005898 134889413,134923309,2017-07-25 18:10:44,">>134922602 stop being a fag and actually do your own research. There are many sociology books written during that time period and statistics. all the data suggest that the free market wasn't working. The truth hurts but the ""free market"" was fucking everyone.. but then again you just gonna ignore them and keep worshiping fag economists like Rothbard",,Anonymous,,,,,1501006244 134889413,134923405,2017-07-25 18:11:31,">>134922602 No, I hate them even more than Ancaps.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501006291 134889413,134923462,2017-07-25 18:12:01,">>134922700 >Nature is fascist. It's just evolution. Women want a man, that can provide resources for her children. A high IQ man can provide the best resources for her, so he would be a probable partner. But in the welfare society, no matter what man the woman can marry (or have children) with any man, because she can always run to the state for the resources. This breeds low IQ people. This doesn't explain degeneracy per say, but I'm assuming lower IQ people are more degenerate than high IQ ones. So, in it's essence, welfare is anti-evolution and anti-nature. Most of this theory is from Molymeme btw,",,Anonymous,,,,,1501006321 134889413,134923563,2017-07-25 18:12:51,">>134919931 We are against any organisation with the power to mandate such things, yes. However if you wanted to start a cucked commune, city state or something where you get told what opinions you can express, what you can/can't put your dick into, and what god/s to pray to, fine with us as long as everyone explicitly agrees to those terms. Somehow, I don't think you'd get many takers, perhaps that's why the idea of freedom scares you so much. Good ways of living are like good moves in chess, people keep rediscovering them for themselves cuz they make sense, they don't need to be mandated, This is why liberals are authoritarians, they are insecure just like you, I wouldn't march with either of you fags.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501006371 134889413,134923575,2017-07-25 18:12:58,">>134922700 I've been thinking about it and I think that is what truly makes what we call ""right-wing"" and ""left-wing"". Chaos and Order. whether anarchist or statist the left wishes to bring a gibsmedat frenzie of chaos and plundering. The right winger whether anarchist or statist demands a strict order to the universe, and that scares the shit out of leftists. It scares them that they will be put in their place no matter how much they piss and whine.",,Anonymous,ORDER.png,6rFDv6/FV6AEc0JJOOJR+w==,,,1501006378 134889413,134923749,2017-07-25 18:14:40,">>134923462 that's why I am for free markets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501006480 134889413,134924186,2017-07-25 18:18:38,">>134923749 Could free market (or market-anarchy) work simultaneously with fascism? Free market would imply no taxes, so the governing body, would need to fund itself (e.i. without taxation.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1501006718 134889413,134924289,2017-07-25 18:19:42,">>134895611 I'll go ahead and list some unusual suspects. Napoleonic France (until it was forcefully brought down by the British + friends and even THEN there was widespread support for its return), pretty much any incarnation of Russia, Singapore as this anon mentioned >>134902850 >>134899041 The Revolutionary War could've easily been a victory if it wasn't for the French and having to ship people over half a continent. Give the UK, Americans and French modern day tech and UK would come out on top easily. Also being razed by someone else does not count as 'collapsing'. There was no widespread revolt against Napoleon. He was so fucking popular, some leaders like Metternich wanted to keep him on his throne as to avoid another uprising. >where as the outcome of the French Revolution was decriminalizing homosexuality, legalizing divorce (hey, i never said all of these were good), and making slavery illegal. You do know this was mostly because the nobles did as they pleased, right? Like, had massive homosex orgies while hunting down revolutionaries who weren't even fags, they just used it as an excuse to burn them at the steak. I swear when this is brought up, same as Cromwell banning Christmas (he did this because once again, Christmas for nobility meant rampant hedonism), people have no idea what they're talking about.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501006782 134889413,134924432,2017-07-25 18:21:05,">>134923575 Let people organise themselves and an natural order will occur.",,Anonymous,shootupsome niggas.jpg,XJy8X8fgXLAxmiUvgWnlTQ==,,,1501006865 134889413,134924591,2017-07-25 18:22:39,">>134924186 For me for sure, I am not a statist as I mentioned before human interaction without interference will lead to the best results and raise our society as a whole.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501006959 134889413,134924870,2017-07-25 18:25:32,">>134924591 Oh, I just saw your flag and assumed it was your ideology, my bad.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501007132 134889413,134924936,2017-07-25 18:26:12,">>134924186 I think market would lead to natural hierchies that would be indistinguishable from what we know as fascist and monarchical systems, and the would be a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501007172 134889413,134925083,2017-07-25 18:27:36,">>134924936 *The free market *and that would be a good thing. I fucked that up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501007256 134889413,134925145,2017-07-25 18:28:10,">>134924870 It is my ideology.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501007290 134889413,134925364,2017-07-25 18:30:08,">>134924870 see that is the reason, because I support you guys and I think it is the best way in the longrun.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501007408 134889413,134925392,2017-07-25 18:30:23,">>134925145 >>134924870",,Anonymous,snek (18).png,f3CVF7R7h6uAaprf2ry5rw==,,,1501007423 134889413,134925691,2017-07-25 18:32:47,">>134924936 >I think market would lead to natural hierchies that would be indistinguishable from what we know as fascist and monarchical systems, and the would be a good thing. ""Natural central control,"" that seems really unnatural. Every atom has independent reactions/relations with others, so central control, would seem like the opposite of nature. >>134925364 >see that is the reason, because I support you guys and I think it is the best way in the longrun. Wait, so you are not a statist, but you are a facist? How does that work?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501007567 134889413,134925726,2017-07-25 18:33:06,>>134925392,,Anonymous,fashsnek.jpg,fvJtm6Fn7c1lHOagMaLK9g==,,,1501007586 134889413,134925899,2017-07-25 18:34:45,">>134925691 >Wait, so you are not a statist, but you are a facist? How does that work? Mental illness.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501007685 134889413,134926064,2017-07-25 18:36:27,">>134925691 >Wait, so you are not a statist, but you are a facist? How does that work? as explained before loyality, hierarchy, authority, justice doesn't require a state, just property rights. I also had the opinion th ebest way would be a laissez faire state but with strong military and police, which only cares about protecting life and property, but since my gov just opened the boarders I cam e to the conclusion no state can give you full security.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501007787 134889413,134927100,2017-07-25 18:46:31,">>134926064 >as explained before loyality, hierarchy, authority, justice doesn't require a state, just property rights. Right, so just private property ownership. You can commit any violent act on your own property, so that's a-okay. But would you impose rules on others property or person against there will? The book ""Chaos Theory"" gave a pretty good argument for private defense (police and military) and private law (aka contracts.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1501008391 134889413,134927154,2017-07-25 18:47:04,">>134926064 Exactly just requires the distinction between means and ends, a libertarian and a fascist could agree on the ends of society, but they would disagree with the means of getting there. People often make this mistake with libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501008424 134889413,134927314,2017-07-25 18:48:26,">>134925691 I would think there to be a plurality of these formations, not governed by a central authority unless they chose to do so. >Wait, so you are not a statist, but you are a facist? How does that work? I've never considered myself a fascist but I believe I understand the same thing he does by a different name. In the absence of the state people will follow their natural tendencies and form a deeply hierarchical social order. there would not be many small properties where everyone has a peice but rather one property owner who holds a large peice of land he will rent the usage of to others, these people would be voluntarily choosing to live here and likely paying to do so. As these people do not own the property they do not dictate the laws, but at very least the proprietor would have to satisfy enough residents to stay in buisness. the people would otherwise secede or revolt.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501008506 134889413,134927605,2017-07-25 18:51:09,">>134927100 The point would be that the ""fascist"" owns land and people voluntarily choose to live on HIS property under his protection and his law. Not talking about breaking into someone elses property and commiting violent acts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501008669 134889413,134927614,2017-07-25 18:51:14,">>134927314 >As these people do not own the property they do not dictate the laws, but at very least the proprietor would have to satisfy enough residents to stay in buisness. the people would otherwise secede or revolt. Or the landowner could sign a contract with the renter, stating that no ""law"" can be created, without the renters agreement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501008674 134889413,134927709,2017-07-25 18:52:05,This thread needs more free helicopter rides.,,Anonymous,92975-004-161CFD5C.jpg,ichIwD/pBsKvb21qTx32pQ==,US,,1501008725 134889413,134928111,2017-07-25 18:55:48,">>134927100 Depends if some cummunists would together and seek power I would say if the majority of the towns population sees them as a thread they should just expell them like in the old days of europe. Or for example if a guy rapes his daughter every day and people are aware of this they should step in. Otherwise as everyone keeps his shit private I wouldn't care, because I want the same for me. >>134927154 I agree with libertarians on the means to get there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501008948 134889413,134928171,2017-07-25 18:56:23,">>134927614 If the landowner were to breach that contract the people would have to secede or revolt, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501008983 134889413,134928435,2017-07-25 18:59:05,">>134927605 also this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501009145 134889413,134928596,2017-07-25 19:00:58,">>134927605 literally describing feudalism here's a good for you retards to read and its free its a scholary written book over 800 pages written by two college professors. The book is a classic Economic history of Europe, by Shepard Bancroft Clough and Charles Woolsey Cole. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3861127;view=1up;seq=13 you all lack basic understand of the economic history of Europe. libertarians are so fucking cringy sometimes",,Anonymous,,,,,1501009258 134889413,134928737,2017-07-25 19:02:19,">>134928171 Violence would be justified to get reparations for a broking contract. So yes, they would ""revolt,"" so to speak. >>134928111 >Depends if some cummunists would together and seek power I would say if the majority of the towns population sees them as a thread they should just expell them like in the old days of europe. Violence from a 3rd party to enforce the NAP would be justified, that would just be self defense (mostly.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1501009339 134889413,134928747,2017-07-25 19:02:26,,,Anonymous,1498003680968.jpg,cAgso9B5oS6nUYDn8qD33g==,NZ,,1501009346 134889413,134928907,2017-07-25 19:04:00,">>134928596 >literally describing feudalism yeah. you think you're blowing my mind? >>134928737 I agree. Violence would be justified.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501009440 134889413,134929055,2017-07-25 19:05:33,">>134889476 Only spic country that isn't a total shithole. It's fun to see the lazy and single teenager mothers crash and burn without welfare.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1501009533 134889413,134929105,2017-07-25 19:05:59,">>134928596 In market anarchy, people would own property morally, unlike feudalism. They could own or rent, up to them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501009559 134889413,134929260,2017-07-25 19:07:28,"Question for Hoppeans. Why do you believe that physical removal is okay? If degeneracy is truly bad and anarchocapitalism is the default state of mankind won't degenerates slowly die off on their own? We don't need violence to get rid of degeneracy. Who gives you the right to take a commie on a helicopter ride if he's a commie on his own land? Who gives you the right to decide who deserves a helicopter ride and who doesn't?",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1498507027329.jpg,pN2J2qcvlH348psRn1ZRoQ==,PL,,1501009648 134889413,134929358,2017-07-25 19:08:32,">>134928111 This. Communism needs to not only be crushed, but the communists be made examples of. Torture would be necessary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501009712 134889413,134929557,2017-07-25 19:10:44,">>134929358 >>134929260 If they are communist on their own property, I'm okay with it. A voluntary communist commune would be moral (but I don't think many people would live in it.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1501009844 134889413,134929702,2017-07-25 19:12:08,">>134929557 What if I took that commune and successfully fucking destroyed it? Would you be angry? wwyd?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501009928 134889413,134929878,2017-07-25 19:13:38,">>134929702 Yeah, I probably would. Because some fucking retard would probably call everyone a commie and start killing people for fun.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501010018 134889413,134929901,2017-07-25 19:13:47,">>134929260 >won't degenerates slowly die off on their own. Yes, thats why I don't support state enforced morality or eugenics. The problem isn't that they're still alive at this moment. The problem is that faggots and pedophiles do not belong anywhere near my kids. They need to be removed. as for the justification.. a group of people could pool together and buy a large chunk of land to raise their families and start a community. as it is their property they set the rules, be it a ""no degenerate fags and violent niggers"" policy, no outsider has the moral authority to force their ways onto their community. its that simple.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501010027 134889413,134930152,2017-07-25 19:16:10,">>134929702 If a nigger runs breaks into your hated neighbor's house and murders him and his family, would you just shrug it off because you really didn't like the guy? Of course not, because that nigger has demonstrated himself to be willing to violate the NAP at a second's notice. There is no guarantee that he won't pose a threat to you as well.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501010170 134889413,134930184,2017-07-25 19:16:26,">>134929557 >>134929702 you're both assuming communists can form any sucessful commune without first stealing from capitalists. theoretically possible as it may be, it has never been the case, ever.",,Anonymous,Commies (1).jpg,yL1qw3koHy3lpzfz0QPPhw==,,,1501010186 134889413,134930507,2017-07-25 19:19:24,">>134930184 Also assuming communists will be happy to remain peacefully on their commune and keep to themselves. Communism is a violently expansionary ideology, they cannot stop by definition. At best, we can assume those on the commune are just hippie peaceniks, not ""real"" communists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501010364 134889413,134930517,2017-07-25 19:19:31,">>134929702 You would violate the NAP of others property, and your claim on the commune would be illegitimate. >>134930184 >you're both assuming communists can form any sucessful commune without first stealing from capitalists. theoretically possible as it may be, it has never been the case, ever. This is the realistic situation, and therefore no communistic commune would be morally created. And if they were to have stolen the land, I would not be angry if >>134929702 took it over (as long as you gave it to their rightful owners. If these owners, and their kids, are dead, it would be reverted to unowned property, and you could take it.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1501010371 134889413,134930859,2017-07-25 19:22:19,">>134889476 Compare Botswana and Namibia to Zimbabwe Compare Hong Kong and Japan to China",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501010539 134889413,134931066,2017-07-25 19:24:10,">>134930507 >>134930517 Good. So we're in agreement that communism in practice is incompatible with property rights and would have to be destroyed if we were to maintain a libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1501010650 134889413,134931128,2017-07-25 19:24:41,">>134889476 Confederate States of America until the (((north))) defeated them",,Anonymous,,,,,1501010681 134889413,134931139,2017-07-25 19:24:47,">>134930184 republican Spain, when confronted by the Americans about the Anarchists taking control of the ford plant, reimbursed them. They typically did that out of politeness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501010687 134889413,134931277,2017-07-25 19:25:58,">>134931066 >Good. So we're in agreement that communism in practice is incompatible with property rights and would have to be destroyed if we were to maintain a libertarian social order. Only if they first violated the NAP, then all action against them would just be self defense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501010758 134889413,134931482,2017-07-25 19:27:34,">>134890584 Ayn Rand was not ancap,just a russian girl who hated the shitty country where she born(ussr) and she became libertarian,but we give her importance cuz is a girl",,Anonymous,,,,,1501010854 134889413,134931768,2017-07-25 19:30:00,">>134889476 successful societies are homogeneous ones... ask soon as the others come it all gets fucked... and for faggots who want to say any city currently in the west is successful with savages all over the place... realize we are all witnessing beasts feast on a decaying corpse of what the west was 75-200 years ago.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501011000 134889413,134931791,2017-07-25 19:30:09,">>134909804 I hope you don't have a polio vaccine then",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501011009 134889413,134931847,2017-07-25 19:30:34,">>134931277 Which we have been determined to be an inevitability.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,zOYQkVSyjhviGQ4wDVxTQQ==,,,1501011034 134889413,134931863,2017-07-25 19:30:42,">>134931066 >communism in practice is incompatible with property rights Ideologically consistent communism, yes. But if you have a group of people calling themselves ""communists"" and living in a commune on a justly-acquired piece of property, it would be a violation of the NAP to attack them unless they aggressed, or threatened to aggress, upon normal people. There is a difference between physical removal of communists from your own property, and shooting watered down communists on their own property. It is most likely that the only form of communist-like ideology that would survive in a world dominated by free societies would be a cucked pacifist version, because more hardline commies would long have been killed in self defense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501011042 134889413,134931972,2017-07-25 19:31:48,">>134929260 >Who gives you the right to decide who deserves a helicopter ride Simple,he violated the NAP(yes,trying to seize my means of productions is violating it)",,Anonymous,,,,,1501011108 134889413,134932315,2017-07-25 19:34:40,">>134931863 The implication of communism being that they don't ever legitimately own property as their ideology dictates that they seize yours. I don't care what you call yourself. If you ""seize means"" you'll get everything you deserve. So to speak.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501011280 134889413,134932843,2017-07-25 19:39:30,">>134903858 So I was watching the Mises Institute lectures today and there was this one outspoken memer with a decent channel I thought I'd share. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFmAi_TPJxU",,Anonymous,brent.png,xzglSdXOW2EO1+ggThhaYw==,,,1501011570 134889413,134932938,2017-07-25 19:40:26,">>134932843 Brent Ancap is pretty good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501011626 134889413,134933071,2017-07-25 19:41:30,">>134931863 doesn't a commi commune also lower the value of your property, when they life in huts next to you and have sex orgies in the dirt.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501011690 134889413,134933309,2017-07-25 19:43:43,,,Anonymous,Screenshot (188).jpg,wafAd0o0C+WbkeN2QxkLGw==,,,1501011823 134889413,134933672,2017-07-25 19:47:00,">>134932938 Man I wish we had an Ancap version of Murdoch Murdoch, although I love them anyway. I guess that's just a market failure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501012020 134889413,134933721,2017-07-25 19:47:25,"Anyways, fun talking with you all, bed time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501012045 134889413,134933977,2017-07-25 19:49:18,">>134933672 isn't murdoch thelibertarian of the 3",,Anonymous,,,,,1501012158 134889413,134934812,2017-07-25 19:56:04,">>134933977 Yeah Murdoch the character is a lolbertarian who, out of necessity, has become a naziboo. I'm just saying I'd like to see a more thematically libertarian series that sort of deals with the internal debates among ancaps and bridges the divide with other factions of the alt-right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501012564 134889413,134935148,2017-07-25 19:58:36,">>134934812 especially since the fagbook libertarian pages mostly post open border refugee shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501012716 134889413,134935461,2017-07-25 20:00:45,">>134934812 >>134935148 Yes please more edgy AnCap content. Reddit teir AnCaps must fucking go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501012845 134889413,134935884,2017-07-25 20:04:05,">>134935148 >>134935148 Yeah I hate those faggots. It's a really bad optics problem that we need to solve.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501013045 134889413,134936879,2017-07-25 20:12:37,">>134889413 Is this accurate?",,Anonymous,comp2.png,t9SPmlLcq+ygyCcB54CakA==,FI,,1501013557 134889413,134937362,2017-07-25 20:16:57,">>134933071 Property value is not something you own. It is simply what others think your property is worth. They are free to appraise it as they wish, just as the hippies are free to have sweaty mud orgies on their own property, even if it neighbours yours. The real question is, how did they afford to buy a respectable piece property in a respectable neighborhood in the first place? It's a fantasy scenario.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501013817 134889413,134937527,2017-07-25 20:18:27,">>134936879 If I were to pick a meme fetish for people square it'd be financial domination.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501013907 134889413,134937558,2017-07-25 20:18:44,">>134937527 Purple*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501013924 134889413,134937648,2017-07-25 20:19:34,">>134937362 >The real question is, how did they afford to buy a respectable piece property in a respectable neighborhood in the first place? maybe their parents died and they inherited the property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501013974 134889413,134938435,2017-07-25 20:27:19,">>134931128 How was the CSA libertarian and also a slave empire?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501014439 134889413,134939199,2017-07-25 20:34:47,">>134938435 for everyone other than slaves it was a libertarian utopia.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501014887 134889413,134939735,2017-07-25 20:39:54,">>134937648 Okay sure. But that's nothing you can't solve by adding another clause to the covenant as I describe it here >>134902017 and here >>134903062 Really the problem with commies is that they reject a consistent theory of property rights that is invariant across different people. The philosophical basis of counteraggression is the fact that a person who explicitly rejects the property rights of others has no rational basis to defend his own property rights. Thus, a commie is on really thin ice because his very ideology is a threat of aggression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501015194 134889413,134941926,2017-07-25 21:02:07,Bump,,Anonymous,You_can_do_it.jpg,Bj6S0zfG+IpZRBIlJ8DqRg==,US,,1501016527 134889413,134943129,2017-07-25 21:14:45,Why don't you guys seed FURTHER READING? I'm crawling over here.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501017285 134980090,134980090,2017-07-26 04:56:20,">Brought to you by Anon, [NOT the CEO of /lrg/; Founding Father] This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 REQUIRED READING: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >FURTHER READING: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ&t=177s [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,rothbard.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,,,1501044980 134980090,134980175,2017-07-26 04:57:23,"Last thread >>>134889413",,Anonymous,READINGS.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,,,1501045043 134980090,134980836,2017-07-26 05:08:22,bugs..... easy on the carrots,,Anonymous,file.png,7MqV/SV2a1pBQqm+mV7jrQ==,NO,,1501045702 135300723,135300723,2017-07-28 14:05:06,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. We should a stateside colony, any suggestions where?",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,EL PRESIDENTE,1492682883748.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,,,1501250706 135305647,135305647,2017-07-28 14:48:37,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_fiery.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,GB,,1501253317 135305647,135306072,2017-07-28 14:52:42,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501253562 135305647,135306262,2017-07-28 14:54:29,">>135305647 Best thread",,Anonymous,ancaps_to_bottle_pureed_water_protectorsjpg.jpg,4otD0+EQ6Lgm9cCwBOyvuw==,US,,1501253669 135305647,135306558,2017-07-28 14:57:15,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1501253835 135305647,135307293,2017-07-28 15:04:16,What are we gonna do about the (((left libertarian))) libertine problem? I can't stand to see AnCap and Snekposters who spew open borders and degenerate trash. Those crypto leftists need to be removed!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501254256 135305647,135307312,2017-07-28 15:04:24,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1501254264 135305647,135307448,2017-07-28 15:05:43,"BUMP. praise the constitution, bill of rights. praise personal responsibility. praise natural selection. praise ""survival of the fittest"". praise a free and independent population that will always be stronger than those cucked by big government! praise the small government loving, libertarian geographic middle of the united states, AKA the least cucked place on planet earth, where naggerz are hated, white people are loved, welfare state is disparaged, and guns are toted. these are the people who elected trump, last potential savior of western society and the white race. where even the women hate minorities and know that they belong in kitchens. they are good women! nazifags don't understand that relying on big government to enforce ""muh values"" only makes entire populations of citizens unable to make their own decisions in life and ultimately unable to be anything but ""degenerate"". this is why europe sucks and america is awesome!",,Anonymous,,,,,1501254343 135305647,135307633,2017-07-28 15:07:24,">>135307448 God bless America. We are the only ones who can save this sinking ship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501254444 135305647,135307867,2017-07-28 15:09:32,">>135307448 >>135305647 so funny how all of these nazis say ""libertarianism will lead to degeneracy"" but yet the only place on the planet where libertarianism genuinely thrived was in the middle and south of the US, where people pushed west on a frontier and lived on ranges, far detached from the governments control, left to their own devices, to do whatever the fuck they wanted to do and to SURVIVE in that harsh environment. and now today we have the southern and middle of the US AKA ""LEAST DEGENERATE PLACE ON THE PLANET"" where they don't like homos, blacks, joos or even fuckin' eskimos. fuckin' /pol/nazi's BTFO eternally",,Anonymous,,,,,1501254572 135305647,135308439,2017-07-28 15:14:48,">>135307867 State enforced ""morality"" is pure degeneracy. Maybe someday soon I will be able to join you in the South dixiebro. American Nationalism is libertarianism.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1501254888 135305647,135308485,2017-07-28 15:15:12,">>135305647 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmT6-ChKpaiIVu2fhEIsNtQ Come hang out.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-07-28_15-14-36.png,jDPctWttAssajw9xuhRJfw==,,,1501254912 135305647,135308506,2017-07-28 15:15:25,"REPORTING IN THE TORCH OF LIBERTY SHALL LAY WASTE TO THE COMMIE SCUM",,Anonymous,koksal baba physical removal.png,sA43FcjuGHJGyGrwaWTRWA==,,,1501254925 135305647,135309031,2017-07-28 15:20:22,">>135307867 Don't knock them too much for it. If their idea of libertarianism comes from the U.S. Libertarian Party, I can't blame them. Though if they haven't looked up Invictus by now, they're missing out on a lot.",,Anonymous,invictus for senate.jpg,f/WtH2yFjpk3DLv8cNn/EA==,,,1501255222 135305647,135309215,2017-07-28 15:22:05,">>135308439 the answer is patently right there in front of all of their faces. ""we need government to enforce morality"" ""we need government to enforce values"" they say. but yet the only place on earth where the values they want exist in any meaningful majority is in the south where state government has always been small or nonexistent. contrast with europe, where big government has ALWAYS existed and where the population is too stupid and cucked and helpless today to even stand up and defend itself from demographic genocide (we have the same problem in the states too, but in the north and in coastal urban centers only, because those states / areas historically had big government and now the people who live there are cucked, helpless and hopeless) founding fathers understood this problem, that's WHY they built the electoral college, which worked exactly as it was designed to work in this most recent election, and literally was directly responsible for Trump winning /pol/nazifags are just weak people looking to exert control over others. they can't do it so they cry to the government to do it. it makes them feel big. SAME EXACT MENTALITY AS ALL SJW'S. WEAK PEOPLE want to control you and they want to use THE GOVERNMENT to do it because they are too weak and IMPOTENT to do it on their own. STRONG PEOPLE want to be left the fuck alone and they want to leave you the fuck alone too, thus libertarianism the libertarian right is the only way if you want humanity to have any sort of future",,Anonymous,,,,,1501255325 135305647,135309496,2017-07-28 15:24:31,">>135309031 Augustus Invictus is a faggot honestly. I don't mind having fascists in the libertarian party because we have common goals for now (in fact I welcome them), but I ask that they please at least be non-degenerate and semi-educated about ancapism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501255471 135305647,135309761,2017-07-28 15:26:47,">>135309496 Yeah, he used to be pretty degenerate. He likes Hoppe, though - that's certainly a good sign.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501255607 135305647,135310046,2017-07-28 15:29:14,,,Anonymous,802207986_110442.jpg,cI1KuguqEahDlYHpdZhQzQ==,CA,,1501255754 135305647,135310092,2017-07-28 15:29:46,">>135309215 >STRONG PEOPLE want to be left the fuck alone and they want to leave you the fuck alone too, thus libertarianism this is actually the REASON why the american south is so libertarian and uncucked today. it was the strongest and boldest people that moved west, facing untold and unknown dangers. dealing with savage natives. living apart from any sort of centralized civilization. shit, ever play ""oregon trail""? that should tell you all you need to know about what frontiersmen and settlers were doing. they got where they were going and most of them died. the others fucked. the ones that lived were so strong and independent they never bothered to run and cry to government to solve their problems for them. they said ""give me liberty or give me death"" and if the government tried to come for their guns they could ""pry it from their cold dead hand"". that's why this mentality and strength and resilience to joo programming and NWO crap exists in the american south and midwest today. it's NOT because of authoritarianism. all of the authoritarian places today are KEKED, especially GERMANY (after all, hitler literally killed all of the free thinkers and individuals, so they didn't even get to breed. germany is now a society of drones that were too stupid to think for themselves. thus angela merkel and ultra-leftism / whatever the NWO tells them to believe they believe). it's because of LIBERTARIANISM. LIBERTARIANISM is what makes humans strong and NON DEGENERATE",,Anonymous,,,,,1501255786 135305647,135310120,2017-07-28 15:30:02,">>135305647 Libertarian death squads when?",,Anonymous,1500899073866.jpg,JdT/5uo6wYWQqiwacLA9DA==,,,1501255802 135305647,135310269,2017-07-28 15:31:21,">>135310092 >all of the authoritarian places today are KEKED KEKED not KEKED. weird typo",,Anonymous,,,,,1501255881 135305647,135310357,2017-07-28 15:32:05,">>135310269 >>135310092 wtf is this shit can't type (CU CKE D) now on here without it autocorrecting to KEKED?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501255925 135305647,135310420,2017-07-28 15:32:32,>>135310092,,Anonymous,dhMeAzK.gif,wq/g3/8BvxLE7Frjt4/v6A==,,,1501255952 135305647,135310451,2017-07-28 15:32:47,">>135310120 >Libertarian death squads when? Now. Also nice Andy, haven't seen him in a while.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501255967 135305647,135310495,2017-07-28 15:33:04,"where were YOU the day ""CU CKED"" got banned from 4chan??",,Anonymous,,,,,1501255984 135305647,135310499,2017-07-28 15:33:06,">>135310357 Not in caps cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501255986 135305647,135310558,2017-07-28 15:33:35,Voluntary bump,,Anonymous,snek_2.png,HSRhqXOosdCV80w46sJgZQ==,US,,1501256015 135305647,135310592,2017-07-28 15:33:53,">>135310357 Testing KEKED",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256033 135305647,135310622,2017-07-28 15:34:08,">>135310495 It's been like that for years desu senpai",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256048 135305647,135310653,2017-07-28 15:34:34,">this whole thread >>>/lgbt/",,Anonymous,1499292582718.jpg,b5GdmLWzGQaHd/6UtoZ7RA==,,,1501256074 135305647,135310689,2017-07-28 15:34:53,You Libertarians just need a little push and then you will become redpilled. Democracy was a mistake.,,Anonymous,,,,,1501256093 135305647,135310721,2017-07-28 15:35:12,">>135310357 >>135310269 >being this fucking new",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256112 135305647,135310746,2017-07-28 15:35:23,">>135310653 >A literal faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501256123 135305647,135310828,2017-07-28 15:36:07,">>135310689 Duh, democracy is the God that failed.",,Anonymous,Hoppe (1).png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,US,,1501256167 135305647,135310879,2017-07-28 15:36:35,">>135310689 >Democracy was a mistake. Right-wing libertarians already agree with that",,Anonymous,Democracy_Hoppe.jpg,yB8vimPv++F/Ee/W4g7Jig==,,,1501256195 135305647,135310901,2017-07-28 15:36:46,">>135310689 You need to read hoppe. We know",,Anonymous,1486768386433.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,US,,1501256206 135305647,135311051,2017-07-28 15:38:11,">>135310721 i've been here for a long time man never noticed it until just now though. that's shitty lol, why the fuck would you be not able to type cucked in caps on 4chan? it's like one of the most important words for this board",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256291 135305647,135311068,2017-07-28 15:38:17,">>135310746 >clinging to a cucked ideology because you're scared of being called a fascist or natsoc",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256297 135305647,135311079,2017-07-28 15:38:21,">>135310689 >implying we're not redpilled https://vimeo.com/86857165",,Anonymous,hoppe_taylor.jpg,fRs+FXg2v4FX6RjUhFf2Ig==,,,1501256301 135305647,135311128,2017-07-28 15:38:43,">>135307867 The problems with libertarianism start when you try to implement it outside of a frontier/rural situation. Show me one example of a truly libertarian city that didn't go to shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256323 135305647,135311220,2017-07-28 15:39:39,">>135311128 Somalia",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256379 135305647,135311241,2017-07-28 15:39:51,">>135310828 >>135310879 >>135310901 So if you already know that then how do you think Libertarianism is ever going to come to power?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256391 135305647,135311496,2017-07-28 15:42:16,">>135311241 Physically remove leftists",,Anonymous,1501165013416.jpg,snjNrH8PW9tLrYBfzCztUw==,,,1501256536 135305647,135311511,2017-07-28 15:42:27,">>135311068 Oh fuck off, I'm 200% more edgy than you. I'm not afraid, you're Ideology is just leftism for whites only. I love my white people, so I don't want to enslave them to socialism, cuck. >Inb4 it's volkish socialism Fuck off faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501256547 135305647,135311549,2017-07-28 15:42:50,">>135311128 this is nonsense there are large cities and urban population centers in the south functioning under the same state governments as the rural areas. but lots of things go to shit with libertarianism, that's the point. the weak and degenerate dies off, the strong survives and builds a brighter, more independent future. whereas with nazism the strong and independent are literally murdered off by secret police, while the weak and most meek and mentally / psychologically cucked are rewarded by teh state and allowed to breed. then a couple generations later you wonder why your population is so degenerate and can't stand up for itself. it's because their natural selection didn't dictate that they need to. this is the poison of authoritarianism and the logical flaw with trying to use government and ""fascism"" to enforce ""values""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256570 135305647,135311738,2017-07-28 15:44:45,">>135311511 >being this much of a bluepilled newfag >I'm edgier than you Top cringe faggot. This is why you people get laughed at. I know for a fact you know absolutely nothing in regards to National Socialism.",,Anonymous,25 points.png,TISqIWkRH2JpSq66/WBOsQ==,,,1501256685 135305647,135311759,2017-07-28 15:44:57,">>135311128 >Wanting a cosmopolitan society Fag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501256697 135305647,135311809,2017-07-28 15:45:29,">>135311220 Somalia is a collapse socialist state retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501256729 135305647,135311831,2017-07-28 15:45:43,">>135310653 ""Order was only restored in L.A... when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."" - Dr. Ron Paul",,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,,,1501256743 135305647,135311904,2017-07-28 15:46:21,">>135311241 Day of the removal.",,Anonymous,1500336443644.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,US,,1501256781 135305647,135311917,2017-07-28 15:46:28,">>135310689 >implying libertarians aren't redpilled on democracy Monarchism is the closest thing to natural order that has been achieved in recent history.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256788 135305647,135311919,2017-07-28 15:46:28,">>135311549 You keep saying that and yet the country is tipping towards whites being a minority. Minorities are going to crush you libertarian morons using democracy. It doesn't matter how strong you are as an individual when 50 minorities destroy you using their vote.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256788 135305647,135312024,2017-07-28 15:47:23,">>135311549 >>135311128 you gotta understand that people evolved a visceral dislike for gays and homosexuality, or a deep instinct to stay with and protect their family through natural selection and harsh environments that weeded out those who didn't have those drives. ""nature"" and a total lack of government is what killed degeneracy. then you have the government come in and start telling people ""we'regoing to tell you how to behave and we're going to manually weed out the degenerate"", well, you aren't weeding out the degenerate, you're just weeding out the people who don't do what they're told. which means in a few generations you're just left with people who WILL do what they're told. they're still degenerate. they don't have the instinct of ""i am going to stay with my family and protect them because i feel it deep in my soul"". they have the instinct of ""i am going to stay with my family and protect them because it is what my government told me to do"". so you have a population of degenerates acting non-degenerate because their masters tell them to. AND when the political winds change (like in germany) they change right with them. when angela merkel tells them to be degenerate now, they say ""ok, time to be degenerate, hurrr durrrr, let me get my techno music on and take some muslim dick up my ass"" that's what your philosophy results in",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256843 135305647,135312062,2017-07-28 15:47:43,">>135311831 There is also a pic of him diddling himself nude on his bed. I'm shocked you didnt use that Cantwell pic. >>135311809 It's called a joke you fucking mutt. >>135311549 >reddit spacing >muh natzees You're really transparent.",,Anonymous,1490580286286.jpg,mgKVGFvRZ9aC/rh9q9EcVw==,,,1501256863 135305647,135312110,2017-07-28 15:48:08,">>135311220 Somalia is a great example of why states shouldn't exist. Warlords are statists and just look how much war they cause. A libertarian utopia is one where you've built up a critical mass of people who voluntarily respect property rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501256888 135305647,135312248,2017-07-28 15:49:31,Anyway thanks for the laugh.,,Anonymous,1499290455082.jpg,pO412QTAapyUmvtlh395LA==,,,1501256971 135305647,135312280,2017-07-28 15:49:51,">>135311904 Nice pic",,Anonymous,1494294192268.png,xORZqJpsafjbHT4rgruKbg==,,,1501256991 135305647,135312375,2017-07-28 15:50:40,So why don't you guys just take off your masks and become fascists?,,Anonymous,,,,,1501257040 135305647,135312493,2017-07-28 15:51:53,">>135311919 no we have different geographical factors than europe. we have a massive landborder with a race of mudpeople (because we aren't an indigenous popultion, remember?) europeans don't have that problem. so when globalism and the UN started pushing their joo agenda, unfortunately the US demographics were a very easy first target for them (just quietly let them sneak in through the borders). and the other issue is that the way our government is set up (which is actually a good thing overall) is that states have a lot of power to decide government. so you have a lot of big government states, especially in the north and by the coast, where you basically have the same problem that you have in europe (people cucked by big government and can't protect themselves). that's why when i talk about this i talk about the south, which isn't that way at all. the american south and midwest is just people who want closed borders, white ethnostates, traditional values, ect ect ect. it's really taking an intentional tunnel vision and distorting everythign to say ""well demographic crisis in the US right now, therefore the US is cucked and libertarianism in the south is meaningless"". i mean the american south and midwest basically proves /pol/s entire nazi point is 100% false",,Anonymous,,,,,1501257113 135305647,135312537,2017-07-28 15:52:16,">>135311919 Democracy is incompatible with property rights, faggot. >>135311738 Shut the fuck up you mongoloid shit, you know nothing of libertarianism. Fuck you think we're Democrats. Fuck you, lurk more degenerate.",,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1501257136 135305647,135312629,2017-07-28 15:53:11,">>135312375 Because state coercion is the source of all degeneracy and leftism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501257191 135305647,135312650,2017-07-28 15:53:22,">>135312375 Fascism has a lot going for it, but it's too authoritarian I am a Nationalist but not a Fascist",,Anonymous,,,,,1501257202 135305647,135312802,2017-07-28 15:54:41,">>135311241 Cantwell's compound.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501257281 135305647,135312863,2017-07-28 15:55:08,">>135312375 In addition to being correct about economics, we don't have any negative associations. We need your numbers and fanaticism, but you need our public image. Maybe we can come to a ""two-state"" solution. Our goals align perfectly for now so who cares.",,Anonymous,1497921589558.png,oVWrV32c8W7k1tk1HX+DuA==,,,1501257308 135305647,135313004,2017-07-28 15:56:42,">>135312062 Your entire ideology is a joke. Fascism as an end in itself has ended as all governments do - with dysgenic effects on the populace.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501257402 135305647,135313011,2017-07-28 15:56:49,">>135312863 >Jewish containment island",,Anonymous,y9vkhlq.jpg,9SX5NrhAsmBtDvPK82ka2g==,,,1501257409 135305647,135313284,2017-07-28 15:59:26,">>135312863 >>135313011 >not shipping the Jews out to Bouvet Island",,Anonymous,,,,,1501257566 135305647,135314030,2017-07-28 16:06:16,"at the end of the day, /pol/ is a pretty intelligent place, but when it comes to /pol/nazis, they won't use reason. they won't use logic. they will shut out all of the facts and logic that proves their entire point of view wrong. why? because they're the same as SJWs. they're weak people who believe what they believe because they want to control others. being weak people, can't even go out into the world and be ASSHOLES the way most psychopaths do, so the have to sit on the computer and lobby the government to control people for them. it gives them a high. it makes them feel powerful. self-righteous. superior. and somewhere between the mountain dew and the chicken tendies, they find the closest thing to inner peace they have ever known. they find genuine joy, self-confidence and pride in controlling others. but then libertarians come along, who are inherently stronger, more intelligent, better looking, and say like ""no nazi's and SJWs, you're all wrong, here are the facts. we aren't fooled by your tricks and you can't tell us what to do"" and what is the response? a whole lot of ""REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE""!",,Anonymous,,,,,1501257976 135305647,135314053,2017-07-28 16:06:29,">>135311759 Good luck getting your trucks and guns without cities. >>135312024 Listen you dumbshit, hierarchies become necessary due to higher populations, not in spite of it. Once women and other leeches show up you need law and order to be maintained through force.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501257989 135305647,135314080,2017-07-28 16:06:40,">>135312493 The way your government is setup can be changed. When minorities rule the country they can vote to change the country to anything they want. You're ""free"" for now. >>135312650 It's really not, everything you currently do you probably would still be allowed to do. As long as you're not a traitor or a degenerate you would be fine. >>135312629 You're right and leftists are aware of that. Not playing the ""game"" won't work though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258000 135305647,135314166,2017-07-28 16:07:26,">>135312375 Why can't we just get along?",,Anonymous,1484501359430.png,gHBSJychSk3TT1CCGIYTTg==,CA,,1501258046 135305647,135314199,2017-07-28 16:07:46,">>135314053 >leeches Nah, you either produce or get out. >women White sharia. Only white male fathers who own land can vote.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258066 135305647,135314278,2017-07-28 16:08:23,">>135312629 How do you explain savagery, piracy, and banditry? Stateless degeneracy was a huge problem for most of the earth's history.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258103 135305647,135314563,2017-07-28 16:10:48,">>135314080 Oh we're playing the game alright, and in the states we're winning. Europe is being devoured by the EUSSR and you fags do nothing about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501258248 135305647,135314653,2017-07-28 16:11:39,"Here's some book dumps I made a while ago on another chan: https://www.file-upload.net/download-12575074/BookDumpPart1.rar.html https://www.file-upload.net/download-12575107/BookDumpPart2.rar.html",,Anonymous,new book dump.jpg,ZvalqqVOdT/N7p/y/MHFuQ==,,,1501258299 135305647,135314787,2017-07-28 16:12:47,">>135314278 >piracy Property crime. If the government didn't immediately hire everyone capable of firing a cannon who hasn't already joined the pirates, you'd see a lot fewer pirates. Explain race riots, you retard. Two folks in Minnesota got themselves memed after having to fire at BLM chimps trying to attack them. In ANCAPISTAN, there wouldn't be police brutality protests as no nigger would ever risk getting doused with so many water cannons he'd drown.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258367 135305647,135314824,2017-07-28 16:13:06,">>135314166 We are getting along. We will also probably be fighting alongside each other 30 years from now. >>135314199 White sharia will never happen as women control the vote.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258386 135305647,135314854,2017-07-28 16:13:26,">>135314278 Scum who would be genetically erradicated by now if it weren't for the invention of central statism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501258406 135305647,135314856,2017-07-28 16:13:26,">>135314053 >Listen you dumbshit, hierarchies become necessary due to higher populations, not in spite of it. basically just stating ""no i'm right and ur a dummy"" in face of clear examples that you are not. this is called believing what you believe because you WANT to believe it and not because it's actually true. this is called ""feelz over thinkz"" >Once women and other leeches show up you need law and order to be maintained through force. literally implying what? that women didn't settle the frontier? ok, shows what you know of american history. >>135314080 The way your government is setup can be changed. When minorities rule the country they can vote to change the country to anything they want. You're ""free"" for now. the way any government is set up can be changed. like i'm sorry, are you trying to suggest that dictatorship has a good record of creating stable governments? you do realize that your boyfriend hitler would have died eventually, right? (gasp, he was not immortal!). you do realize that anyone could have gotten into his position after, right? and that subversive can just as easily infiltrate dictatorships as they can democracies (in fact, in many ways it's even easier). you're using bad logic. you're taking something that any form of government is susceptible to, inherently, and trying to peg it squarely on democracy. democracies and dictatorships both rise and fall. there's no such thing as a society that has endured throughout history as a constant. not a single one. i don't need to continue to dignify this idiotic argument you try to make",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258406 135305647,135314909,2017-07-28 16:13:57,">>135314199 >either produce or get out They do ""get out"" and they form gangs of outlaws. The libertarian frontier ended partly due to this. It's also a reason why libertarianism never took off in Europe, they know what happens when you run out of room to banish people. >white sharia Inherently statist >>135314030 Nice Redd*t post",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258437 135305647,135315049,2017-07-28 16:15:22,">>135314824 >implying men don't enforce the vote's effects I thought fascists didn't have illusions on what really runs the government machine. Protip: it's force.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258522 135305647,135315118,2017-07-28 16:16:00,">>135314854 Haha you really believe that huh? The whole reason the welfare state was invented in the first place was to keep the lumpenproles from burning civilization down.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258560 135305647,135315216,2017-07-28 16:16:52,">>135314856 >>135314080 oh and i forgot to mention the biggest issue with dicatorships, when ""dear strong leader"" goes insane and checks out, but the entire nation is still at his mercy! yeah, that's another great situation. we all know EVERY FORM OF GOVERNMENT is inherently imperfect but lets not be fucking retarded enough to suggest that ""dictatorship"" is the least imperfect of all of them",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258612 135305647,135315219,2017-07-28 16:16:53,">>135314909 They form gangs of outlaws? Then it's open season, and gives libertarian communities a reason to operate in a militarised fashion, selectively breeding stronger individuals. If they can't be reasoned with and refuse to exist peacefully, then it's time to use McNukes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258613 135305647,135315392,2017-07-28 16:18:22,">>135314909 >Nice Redd*t post ""nom nom nom nom muh chicken tendies.........man......these fuckin' plebbbit plebs. how are they stupid. they don't know the glory of der furher. fuckin' plebbbit, nom nom nom nom nom nom nom mountain doo and chikcen tendies are the real redpilled food""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258702 135305647,135315440,2017-07-28 16:18:41,">>135314278 None of the things you mentioned is unambiguously stateless. In fact, the worst group of bandits in the history of mankind, the Golden Horde, was a state. The French Revolution, a defining upsurge of savagery in an otherwise extremely cultured nation, was a statist uprising. Piracy was often explicitly state-sponsored. The Gulags, concentration camps (inb4 muh 6 gorillion - it wasn't just kikes you retard), artificially induced famines, these things have no ""stateless"" equivalent. I'll spare you the nuances of tribalism and anarchocapitalism now. Please don't make me regret that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258721 135305647,135315750,2017-07-28 16:21:42,">>135314856 >feelz over think Your entire post was an ad-hominem against a hypothetical straw-manned natsoc >women didn't settle the frontier Their numbers were hilariously low until the West became more settled and started needing a more complex government. The only women out west in the early days were hookers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258902 135305647,135315802,2017-07-28 16:22:09,"If you Had ro recommend me one libertarian book what would it be? Im currently Not sure of Im natsoc (don't like eugenics eg), centrist etc. But i am highly in favor of personal freedom (guns etc.) Any help is aprreciated.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1501258929 135305647,135315808,2017-07-28 16:22:14,">>135314856 Not all fascists like Hitler or Nazis I don't why you keep suggesting that throughout this entire thread. I'm not saying the subversive can't use dictatorships either. All I am looking at is the fact that 1. white are becoming a minority in the US 2. Every group of people besides whites vote for leftists. 3. When these groups of people hold the voting power bad things can happen to us. This is why I am a fascist as I believe democracy must be superseded and we must change course before it is too late. >>135315049 I'm aware of that I thought ancaps didn't use force though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258934 135305647,135315877,2017-07-28 16:22:52,">>135315118 Yeah, no. You have no historical record to show for. There were classes that were actually oppressed all throughout history and a lot of them didn't chimp out. It wasn't until living standards improved that we saw the Great European Chimpout, also known as the French Revolution.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501258972 135305647,135316066,2017-07-28 16:24:29,">>135315808 Ancaps do use force. We just don't start shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501259069 135305647,135316126,2017-07-28 16:24:52,">>135315750 >Your entire post was an ad-hominem against a hypothetical straw-manned natsoc what post are you talking about? this post? >>135312024 clearly no >Their numbers were hilariously low until the West became more settled and started needing a more complex government. The only women out west in the early days were hookers. literally historically inaccurate information you just made up off the top of your head because you don't want to admit you're wrong",,Anonymous,,,,,1501259092 135305647,135316460,2017-07-28 16:28:10,">>135315808 Men will just refuse to use force to enforce women's whims, and actually dominate their partners, impregnate them, and keep them pregnant until they can no longer afford to have more children and care for them at the same time. Women (and minorities, to an extent) get uppity just because white men refuse to be alpha. In a small frontier community, women will depend on their husbands (or fathers, if they're too young) and older sons to defend them, thus the men get to have their way. The men pursue their interests in such a way that they can coexist together within the community. If a man feels that the group no longer represents his own interests and this disadvantage is not outweighed by the benefits of belonging in the group, he takes his property and family and leaves to find a better place to live. In a welfare state, the women are married to the government and thus they are uppity towards the men of the society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501259290 135305647,135316495,2017-07-28 16:28:30,">>135315808 great you want to supersede democracy, you must love the UN then right? because they're all unelected. no democracy there. oh wait, you DONT love the UN? because they're implementing policies you don't like? well. i guess now you see the problem with unelected officials, DONT YOU! it's nice when you create an idealized image in your mind of a ""strong dictator"" who thinks and does exactly what you think he should, but when unelected officials ACTUALLY exist in real life they aren't always so pretty. thanks, i'm glad we could end this conversation in a well reasoned and rational way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501259310 135305647,135316626,2017-07-28 16:29:41,">>135315802 Probably The Law by Fréderic Bastiat. Short and to the point, and full of refutations of old-school statism and early socialism. He was technically still a classical liberal, but it's close enough. Also read anything by Hoppe - don't be afraid to start with shorter works.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501259381 135305647,135316876,2017-07-28 16:31:35,">>135316495 >>135315808 also i am from america, but last i check the EU (which i'm guessing you're not too fond of) is mostly, or at least largely unelected too, am i correct?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501259495 135305647,135316911,2017-07-28 16:31:50,">>135315219 Good luck with that philosophy. Private Paramilitaries vs huge gangs of desperate bandits are more evenly matched than you think. >>135315440 Banditry and Piracy can be financed by a state or backed by a state but always see their biggest upsurges in regions and times where state authority weakens or collapses. The worst pirates of the Caribbean were outlaws, not privateers. Modern pirates almost exclusively come from failed states.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501259510 135305647,135317818,2017-07-28 16:39:26,>>135316126,,Anonymous,IMG_2728.jpg,IN1lOoUKEBS6fVPkVo0pfA==,,,1501259966 135305647,135317960,2017-07-28 16:40:30,">>135317818 >darkest areas are 20+% male majority.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501260030 135305647,135318117,2017-07-28 16:41:57,">>135305647 libertaryanism",,Anonymous,hitlerrehearsing-12.jpg,JMp4oQuQMQI2o8MeBfUN6w==,NL,,1501260117 135305647,135318574,2017-07-28 16:45:41,">>135317818 literally all this shows is that females were in excess in most of the south, in many of the recently settled lands, in certain parts of the frontier, and ""over 20%""(we don't know how high over 20%) in the majority of the frontier. so.....you went through all of the trouble to find this map (thanks, i'm saving it for sure) but all it does is prove you wrong and prove me right. fucking nazi/pol/acks",,Anonymous,,,,,1501260341 135305647,135318809,2017-07-28 16:47:48,">>135318117 Libertarian/aryan/ism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501260468 135305647,135318918,2017-07-28 16:48:42,">>135318809 >>135318117 Liber/aryan/ism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501260522 135305647,135319388,2017-07-28 16:52:27,">>135318574 >>135317818 >>135317960 oh i see. i sort of read the key wrong. yeah so basically what this shows is that numbers of men and women on frontier and recently settled lands were mostly even some were even or female majority, especially in teh south. yeah. this is interesting. i just don't see how it supports your point though. you basically said ""the numbers of women on the frontier was ridiculously small, and the ones that were there were hookers"". then you spent all of this time digging up this map (which is a cool map) and all it does is basically prove that you were wrong? that in most places, even out toward the farthest frontier, there was less than 20% difference in the number of men and women? i am telling you man. /pol/ nazis are really another breed. all you do is prove yourself wrong over and over again frontiers were mostly settled by families. men, women and children. they had to fuck and create a whole new population out there. that's how the united states as we know it today came to be",,Anonymous,,,,,1501260747 135305647,135320054,2017-07-28 16:57:03,Can someone eli5 me why you don't like Gary Johnson as a Libertarian? He seems pretty solid to me.,,Anonymous,mfw_theres_an_al_bhed_near_me.jpg,avm6rrVZs/RoB2/YjBUlJQ==,US,,1501261023 135305647,135320335,2017-07-28 16:59:19,"Best thread :3 NatSocs have to realize that they can have their national socialist paradise within an Anarcho-capitalist society, whereas the opposite would not happen. Unless they want to violate argumentation ethics and say ""self ownership for us, but not for you,"" they would have to concede defeat and allow us to physically remove the lower tier degenerates (welfare addicts, lazy and incompetent people, unreliable persons, etc.) by way of passive market eugenics. Then we can talk about shipping off the high life degenerates (liberal socialites and power players) by means of behavioral restrictions and covenant contracts. In other words, let Ancaps have their sacred lands -- whether ethnocentric or cosmopolitan -- and let NatSocs have their sacred lands. Just make sure you guys don't force your welfare socialism onto us.",,Anonymous,opfsdlvh1gpy.png,ndjkzExmlGUc65PyItGwRw==,PT,,1501261159 135305647,135320394,2017-07-28 16:59:46,">>135320054 He's an sjw dudeweed pandering faggot. Worst part is that he knows better. He willingly shat all over real libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501261186 135305647,135320471,2017-07-28 17:00:18,"enjoy being murdered into oblivion, as you all have been in every tribal society since the dawn of man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501261218 135305647,135320989,2017-07-28 17:04:34,">>135320054 he's a fucking tool of globalism. he's also ""the retarded kind of libertarian"". you know? the one that thinks it should be every man, woman and childs right to own a nuclear bomb, and the government shouldn't be able to tell them otherwise? the biggest issue is that he's ""SO LIBERTARIAN""that he believes in open borders. which means if he was elected the united states as we know it would essentially just cease to exist and it would turn into mexico / south america over night. he is a fucking piece of shit tard and i can honestly say that i hope he rots in hell",,Anonymous,,,,,1501261474 135305647,135321282,2017-07-28 17:06:57,">>135316626 Dankeschön!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1501261617 135305647,135321668,2017-07-28 17:10:00,"Who is considered the highest-tier Liberian politician then? They may be memes, but my pick is for Ron or Rand Paul.",,Anonymous,1429727040532.png,JMetpWAgZxolZDlSpBJrXA==,US,,1501261800 135305647,135322275,2017-07-28 17:14:36,">>135321668 as far as real politicians go, Ron is the only answer. also wassap my dudes just how free are you feeling today /lrg/?",,Anonymous,Ron.png,ONq9KemJD4uFo1ZCARvqlg==,,,1501262076 135305647,135322318,2017-07-28 17:15:08,"alright which one of you niggers was shitposting with me on wizchan I know it was one of you, you posted an /lrg/ group pic of libertarian pepe's. You understand how unrealistic it is to talk about libertarianism with fucking NEETs right? just debate the commies out whenever they try to take advantage of helpless incels but leave wizards alone, they're not interested and can only remain neutral still love you though bby",,Anonymous,1489425425955.png,elL42AGlJX1BnQM9Dtzxgw==,US,,1501262108 135305647,135322708,2017-07-28 17:17:54,">>135321668 >They may be memes, but my pick is for Ron or Rand Paul. IMO this is the correct answer. not gary johnson or anyone in the ""libertarian party"" are real ""libertarians"" they are idiots who have given the movement a bad name. they're out there pushing for open borders and your right to sell crack to 4 year olds. most people who really want america to be free, but aren't morons, are republicans, because the core of that party are principles of small government, self-determination, personal responsibility, gun ownership, ect ect. of course most REPUBLICANS are actually corrupt democrats who are just as interested in big government and globalism as barack obama or HRC. but if you're really ""libertarian"" you're going to lean right pretty heavily at the end of the day. at least this is my point of view on things.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501262274 135305647,135323403,2017-07-28 17:23:36,">>135322318 it looks mighty autistic on that wizchan. Do they kick you out if you loose your virginity?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501262616 135305647,135323494,2017-07-28 17:24:21,,,Anonymous,1500417456961.jpg,z7gCvi0/nkYpontuohQeAg==,,,1501262661 135305647,135324242,2017-07-28 17:30:55,">>135323403 of course it's autistic, the entire chan is based on a meme. But they're my autists and I've been with them for years. They're good people at heart, just... indifferent... to conventional social standards. >Do they kick you out if you loose your virginity? only if you're stupid enough admit it the same how any retard that claims to be a girl on 4chan is barraged with tits or gtfo. There is no real way for them to check, and it's kept that way because some people want to chill and not talk about other people's personal relationships. It was pretty cucked until the site uncucked itself and banned a ton of /r9k/ shit. Then some guy made a politics thread which has been a battle against /leftypol/ commies since anyways if the guy who posts /lrg/ memes is here I just wanted to say to keep it on the low because you're gonna get all of our asses banned the same way the mods physically remove commies and nazis whenever they get too uppity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501263055 135305647,135325274,2017-07-28 17:38:56,"from some springer-tier show, Ron Paul interview where everyone tries to grill him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyV9Owe3ojA",,Anonymous,,,,,1501263536 135305647,135325346,2017-07-28 17:39:32,">>135325274 the dick host even gets up and yells in Rons face",,Anonymous,,,,,1501263572 135392224,135392224,2017-07-29 06:35:32,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,DeathCap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,,,1501310132 135392224,135392249,2017-07-29 06:35:53,">I agree with Hans-Hermann Hoppe, the elder Murray Rothbard and many other libertarians that libertarianism is a right-wing movement and that our leftist elements are useful idiots at best, and a cancer that can only be cured by one-way helicopter rides at the far more likely worst. >When every effort analyze our political problems are met with accusations of racism, sexism and homophobia. When every demographic disparity is considered a hate crime and when libertarianism’s core demographic, namely white heterosexual males is systematically emasculated, denigrated and eradicated from the face of the planet, intellectual inquiry, economic stability and prospects for a libertarian society dwindle to zero >Here’s the truth that almost nobody has the courage to say: The reason why you are surrounded by almost entirely white males at libertarian events is because white males, with very few exceptions are about the only demographic capable of managing a libertarian society. That means in order for a libertarian society to exist, those white males will have to make their women subordinate and non whites will have to be largely if not entirely excluded from that society.",,Anonymous,1492507944453.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,,,1501310153 135392224,135392298,2017-07-29 06:36:42,">Luckily, libertarianism provides us with the perfect mechanism for doing this in the form of property rights. When we talk about a libertarian society, a true libertarian society absent the state, there is no such thing as public property. We are talking about total privatization of all resources, especially land. At which point discussion about public policy becomes rather pointless. We do not vote who gets to come across borders. The property owners decide unilaterally who they allow in and who they exclude.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501310202 135392224,135392323,2017-07-29 06:37:04,">Sadly we don’t live in a libertarian society and so we do have to take an interest into public policy if we ever wish to find ourselves living in one. For example the discussion of immigration seems to be a big division between the left and right of libertarianism. Regardless of any real or perceived legitimacy of the institution, The united states federal government is rather powerful and controls land masses commonly referred to as borders. For the united states to open those borders to every man woman and child throughout the world, to subsidise their breeding within these borders and to do all of that at our expense is a far greater violation of the non aggression principle than it is to exclude those people from our society. The common misconception of the left-libertarian is that so long as the government controls a resource that resource must be freely available to all. This is foolish, it is precisely why governments are inefficient and destructive mechanisms for organising human society. No such condition could exist in a society based on private property. Who could imagine in a stateless world that all of humanity could simultaneously exploit a resource without completely depleting its value or doing violence to one another in the process, this is what we commonly call the tragedy of the commons. Privatization eliminates this tragic phenomenon but until that privatization occurs it is imperative to our very survival that governments act as good stewards of these resources on behalf of their true owners; the taxpayers. That means a great deal of discrimination and violence done in defense thereof. >While I think we can all agree as libertarians that war is horrible and should be avoided in every reasonably possible way, it does not mean that we are compelled to leave ourselves defenseless against invasion be it by waves of hungry immigrants or by foreign military just because taxation is theft.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501310224 135392224,135392356,2017-07-29 06:37:38,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1501310258 135392224,135392424,2017-07-29 06:38:43,">Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.",,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1501310323 135392224,135392562,2017-07-29 06:41:07,"State enforced ""morality"" is pure degeneracy.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1501310467 135392224,135392605,2017-07-29 06:41:40,,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1501310500 135392224,135392626,2017-07-29 06:41:54,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1501310514 135392224,135392750,2017-07-29 06:43:49,,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1501310629 135392224,135392767,2017-07-29 06:44:01,>>135392424,,Anonymous,jews.jpg,6e4QY4Ochiyj7cmoJY9Y1g==,,,1501310641 135392224,135392780,2017-07-29 06:44:08,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1501310648 135392224,135392848,2017-07-29 06:45:07,">>135392767 Rothbard and mises are /lrg/ approved, the rest can fuck off.",,Anonymous,GOYs.png,A+U0uc+5K8sDTutQZm9GLw==,,,1501310707 135392224,135392919,2017-07-29 06:46:24,,,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,,,1501310784 135392224,135392928,2017-07-29 06:46:33,,,Anonymous,1434746073350.jpg,A3K2RGPEFVeZrvy2Fx6Fjg==,,,1501310793 135392224,135392939,2017-07-29 06:46:42,,,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,,,1501310802 135392224,135393019,2017-07-29 06:47:52,,,Anonymous,blue (2).jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,,,1501310872 135392224,135393029,2017-07-29 06:48:05,,,Anonymous,blue (4).jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,,,1501310885 135392224,135393038,2017-07-29 06:48:14,,,Anonymous,blue (3).jpg,tcZF4Xlnat26fsQUtN5hiA==,,,1501310894 135392224,135393330,2017-07-29 06:53:10,">135392767 >NAZIS MADE-TO-MEASURE FOR ZIONISM >In 1925, Germany's 500,000 Jews were overwhelmingly indifferent or actively hostile to Zionism. The German Zionist movement had only 9000 members. >The ""Central Union of Germans of the Jewish Faith "" represented most German Jews and favored active participation in German life. Its main focus was combating anti-Semitism. >Zionists, on the other hand, welcomed the Nazis' anti Semitic policies. Like the Nazis, they believed in race-based national character and destiny. Like the Nazis, they believed Jews had no future in Germany. >The Zionists did not protest Nazi persecution such as the removal of 2000 Jewish scholars and scientists from German universities in 1933. The Nazis rewarded this ""restraint"" by allowing the Zionists to go about their work unhindered. All other Jewish and anti fascist organizations were disbanded and their leaders imprisoned. >The Nazis required all Jews to join the Zionist-led ""Reich Union"" whose goal was emigration. Jews were to be converted to Zionism at any cost. The Zionists were able to publish books and newspapers critical of the Nazis so long as the audience was restricted to Jews.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501311190 135392224,135393396,2017-07-29 06:54:14,">>135392767 >>135393330 >The cooperation extended to political and economic spheres. Adolph Eichmann set up agricultural training camps in Austria to prepare young Jews for Kibbutz life. He visited Palestine and conferred with Zionist leaders who confessed their true expansionist goals. There was even talk of a strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and Jewish Palestine. His report is in Himmler's Archives. >[For more on Zionist-Nazi cooperation, see online Lenni Brenner ""Zionism in the Age of Dictators"" Also, Lenni Brenner, 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis (2002)] >The cooperation may have extended to the Jewish Holocaust and explain why most Jews passively accepted their fate. In his book, ""The Holocaust Victims Accuse"" Rabbi Moshe Shonfeld claims that Zionist- led Jewish Councils (""Judenrats"") collaborated with the Nazis and deceived non Zionist Jews. See my ""Zionism: Compulsory Suicide for Jews."" >Europe's non-Zionist Jews were worth more dead than alive to Zionists and their financial sponsors. The Holocaust provided a political and moral rationale for the establishment of the Jewish state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501311254 135392224,135393952,2017-07-29 07:03:57,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501311837 135392224,135394028,2017-07-29 07:05:24,Hoppe on private defense,,Anonymous,Hoppe_Quote_BW_2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,US,,1501311924 135392224,135394111,2017-07-29 07:06:51,Yet another cringeworthy ancap-teenager circlejerk thread.,,Anonymous,1501193426497.png,98K+UVyZzngtWvoB2kazRg==,,,1501312011 135392224,135394204,2017-07-29 07:08:22,">>135394111 Says the edgy fascist-teenager",,Anonymous,commies_get_OUT.png,ifzg8WPR4yrkYo2hIIeY0A==,US,,1501312102 135392224,135394298,2017-07-29 07:09:58,,,Anonymous,1497378059640.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,US,,1501312198 135392224,135394391,2017-07-29 07:11:50,">>135392224 Why did Ghost get suspended on twitter and why isnt he doing his show anyway? I want to hear him talk about the shit that has been happening. Ron Paul 2012 is forever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501312310 135392224,135394422,2017-07-29 07:12:14,">>135394111 Eat shit faggot",,Anonymous,mysoul.jpg,tZb3OTJW97KynxtxpFt1tQ==,US,,1501312334 135392224,135394451,2017-07-29 07:12:50,">>135394391 I could never get into that show, sorry m8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501312370 135392224,135394657,2017-07-29 07:15:59,">>135394204 >>135394422 >being so dumb you think a CIA-installed dictator was an AnCap",,Anonymous,,,,,1501312559 135392224,135394879,2017-07-29 07:19:58,"libertarians are transhumanist scum, the enemy of humanity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0",,Anonymous,jack.png,7YgvsYx+BzGYpl7uSIZK8g==,US,,1501312798 135392224,135394891,2017-07-29 07:20:13,">>135394657 No body thinks that retard. Go fuck your self, welfare bum lover",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501312813 135392224,135394949,2017-07-29 07:21:17,">>135394879 Fuck that, it's you fags that are gonna demand civil rights for robots",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501312877 135392224,135395007,2017-07-29 07:22:19,">>135394111 Fascists get the helicopter too",,Anonymous,molymeme1.jpg,WOn/zBItVBi3sF7vBjdX2w==,CA,,1501312939 135392224,135395126,2017-07-29 07:24:08,">>135394949 How do you plan to compete with a 400 IQ designer baby? This is the future the market demands. Eugenics taken to it's logical conclusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fl27wKaGFw",,Anonymous,ArmstrongPP.png,6ZgsOTFq1EZCMXty0tsrSw==,US,,1501313048 135392224,135395289,2017-07-29 07:26:36,">>135394949 >demand civil rights for robots If a machine displays all the signifiers of conciousness then who are we, as biological machines, to deny them rights?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501313196 135392224,135395378,2017-07-29 07:28:07,">>135395289 Lol, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys are fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501313287 135392224,135395412,2017-07-29 07:28:46,">>135395126 Show me a real 400iq baby and then we'll talk.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501313326 135392224,135395419,2017-07-29 07:28:58,">>135395378 Not an argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1501313338 135392224,135395537,2017-07-29 07:31:05,">>135395412 We'll be mass producing them in the next 50 years. Humanity will be finished https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI-uVZwoIW8",,Anonymous,Sundowner.jpg,oWZzFLo1gPikI8/9ELnpdA==,US,,1501313465 135392224,135395717,2017-07-29 07:34:23,">>135392224 open border scum need to go off themselves alternatively just go live with the nigs who you love so much, they'll do it for you",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1501313663 135392224,135395806,2017-07-29 07:35:58,"Hey guys, maltabro here, so yesterday I met and has a nice chat with Hans Herman hoppe, I'm in a conference on economy and at 4 will be hoppes turn, I'll do an ama if people are interested in like 5 hours",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501313758 135392224,135395855,2017-07-29 07:36:41,">>135395717 Damn right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501313801 135392224,135395874,2017-07-29 07:37:00,">>135395806 Fuck yeah my man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501313820 135392224,135395956,2017-07-29 07:38:35,">>135395419 There's no argument to be made, you hate humanity, you love mindless slaves. You'd be happy too replace humanity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501313915 135392224,135395995,2017-07-29 07:39:17,">>135395956 >There's no argument to be made Yes, because you have an IQ of 90",,Anonymous,0652b051f45ad87a9298bdf7a96ab98e.png,BlKwUfRa2HqSmL33qWq5jg==,,,1501313957 135392224,135396003,2017-07-29 07:39:23,">>135394949 Exactly my thought... like libs wouldn't be the first to demand rights for ""conscious""AI. They would be the first to voice their support. Just like they do withababsolutely everything else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501313963 135392224,135396272,2017-07-29 07:43:33,,,Anonymous,ruh-roh.jpg,ZlWuK74PdC4LaU+agiHL4A==,,,1501314213 135392224,135396329,2017-07-29 07:44:42,">>135395956 So would the free market, if given a chance Turns out human being aren't the most efficient thing possible",,Anonymous,1492362290269.jpg,v0DuuKA2jEXKRnwxBZzmXg==,US,,1501314282 135392224,135396847,2017-07-29 07:53:01,">>135396329 Humans demand other real humans. Only fags like you would mandate such an eradication.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501314781 135392224,135397063,2017-07-29 07:56:42,">>135396847 The people that get the cranial implants, body modifications, gene therapies will be the most successful in the marketplace. A plain old unmodified human will be nothing more than an obsolete zoo animal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RlSgnpLbro",,Anonymous,blade wolf.png,xNSJ/t5rPNKMcrVLTYZQtw==,US,,1501315002 135392224,135397182,2017-07-29 07:59:03,">>135397063 Ah I see that you are autistic. My condolences to your family.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501315143 135392224,135397602,2017-07-29 08:05:54,"Nah, it'll be more like ""hey, check out this anime nerd with an iPhone implanted in his arm"" ""lol what a fag, now let's go fuck some regular non toaster implanted chicks""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501315554 135392224,135397668,2017-07-29 08:06:52,"If you create a libertarian general instead of a libertarian right general, I shall participate.",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1501315612 135392224,135397681,2017-07-29 08:07:04,">>135397063 >The people that get the cranial implants, body modifications, gene therapies >me no question, what is there to lose?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501315624 135392224,135397935,2017-07-29 08:11:37,">>135397668 I don't want left libertarians to participate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501315897 135392224,135398143,2017-07-29 08:14:45,">>135397681 Humanity will not long be the epitome of intelligence on this earth. We can create any variety of post-human organisms in a laboratory that far surpass human limitations. Whoever creates the largest brain will dominate this world. Say goodbye to humanity, everything you care about will be subsumed into the rising transhumanist machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAPgPH9hsI",,Anonymous,Final Boss.png,LtkRcOOUzMQElluiFd/xGA==,US,,1501316085 135392224,135398711,2017-07-29 08:23:56,">>135395289 Automatons are created by Man, not by God. They are property and thus are not entitled to any rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501316636 135392224,135398769,2017-07-29 08:24:56,">>135395717 >open borders We're not the ones who passed the Civil Rights Act and other kikery.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501316696 135392224,135398859,2017-07-29 08:26:20,,,Anonymous,1500899073866.jpg,JdT/5uo6wYWQqiwacLA9DA==,US,,1501316780 135392224,135398911,2017-07-29 08:27:10,">>135397668 >b-but who'd'st'll've build the designated shitting streets?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501316830 135392224,135399417,2017-07-29 08:34:06,">>135398911 Kek, poo in loos confirmed for extinction in AnCapistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501317246 135392224,135399462,2017-07-29 08:34:41,">>135398769 Nah, you just support kikery like that because MUH FREEDOM. captcha: millstone banks",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1501317281 135392224,135399742,2017-07-29 08:38:40,">>135399462 We literally don't support that shit, we don't believe in an abstract freedom of movement, just as there is no such freedom of speech. What we believe in is property rights. People do not vote who gets to come across borders, property owners dictate who can and cannot come in. Have yourself a read of these posts if you don't want to sound like a total retard. >>135392249 >>135392298 >>135392323 >>135392356",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501317520 135392224,135399873,2017-07-29 08:40:44,,,Anonymous,1501224193215.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,,,1501317644 135392224,135400183,2017-07-29 08:45:29,">>135399462 Also purging of communists is a meme in Ancap. Communists/Muslims/Jews/Non whites every-single one of them are welcome to every right you have you can just say don't walk on my property and that's about it. Hollywood and the media establishment will continue to exist and push for anti-white things, since they both make plenty of money",,Anonymous,,,,,1501317929 135392224,135400846,2017-07-29 08:54:47,">>135400183 It's not a meme, those incapable of reciprocating such property rights forfeit their own rights. In the case of communists they are aggressors by admission of their own doctrine. What exactly do you think ""seize the means of production"" means? I'll tell you what it means; theft. >Inb4 huurrr what if commies are peaceful? They are never peaceful, abolishing property implies the initiation of the use of force. See >>135392605",,Anonymous,Hoppe (2).jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1501318487 135392224,135401158,2017-07-29 08:59:20,,,Anonymous,basedspooner.jpg,L4oAivVzVuPv8Lm5Sp2m6g==,,,1501318760 135392224,135401663,2017-07-29 09:06:26,">>135401158 I kekd",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501319186 135392224,135401745,2017-07-29 09:07:35,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (7).png,Ps0EkdLm4GTSaTkGmxi0Gw==,US,,1501319255 135392224,135402142,2017-07-29 09:13:02,">>135400846 >It's not a meme, those incapable of reciprocating such property rights forfeit their own rights. In the case of communists they are aggressors by admission of their own doctrine. What exactly do you think ""seize the means of production"" means? I'll tell you what it means; theft. No it is a meme since that's only if they make a overtly aggressive threats with evidence they actually do mean to invade and kill. A commie commune has it's right to existence since the very thing ancap is built on is non aggression. If there was an openly whites only community the black village next door can't just randomly attack them justifying the attack as this white community was a threat it's a big fucking joke",,Anonymous,,,,,1501319582 135392224,135402748,2017-07-29 09:22:28,">>135402142 Again your implying that these commies are not violating anyone's rights, theoretically possible as it may be you and I know commies can't simply leave you alone. They are parasites that have to suck resources from the productive. If commies could form a voluntary community and not be a violent parasitic gang then fine. However this has never been the case, as long as the state exists and public policy these cunts make affect us they are using aggression. We have every right to assume threat and subjugate the communists to the extent of our ability.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501320148 135392224,135403056,2017-07-29 09:26:52,">>135399462 False. Even Rothbard was against the Civil Wrongs Act.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501320412 135392224,135403442,2017-07-29 09:32:12,">>135402748 >Again your implying that these commies are not violating anyone's rights Correct voicing your opinion in ancap is not aggression unless you count free speech as aggressive in which case it's entirely moral to go kill someone over a twitter post since that could be taken as a threat. But then that brings in the case of microaggressions > If commies could form a voluntary community and not be a violent parasitic gang then fine There you go ancap is fine with communism like i said removal is all a big meme. Until their lining up at your gates you can't lay a finger on them. Unless that is you want to btfo out of your non aggression ideology and admit that might makes right and people who think differently must be purged in which case you need some kind of funded purging unit with little privacy laws. Or something along those lines >We have every right to assume threat and subjugate the communists to the extent of our ability. Nope non aggression unless their armed and making regular threats against your commune you ""can't"" attack them. You have every right to defend yourselves and to be armed, but you don't have the ""right"" to be overtly aggressive with anyone who disagrees with you on the basis of ""they may be a threat"". Unless you want to discard the nap your screwed",,Anonymous,,,,,1501320732 135392224,135403492,2017-07-29 09:32:49,">>135403056 These idiots don't understand liberty as you and I do. They think freedom means no responsibility or consequences for our actions. They have the same understanding as leftists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501320769 135392224,135403795,2017-07-29 09:36:48,">>135403442 >Freedom of speech We don't believe in freedom of speech, only liberals do. We believe in responsibility for your actions, that includes facing the consequences of making threats.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501321008 135392224,135404255,2017-07-29 09:42:42,">>135403795 Yeah exactly. If someone makes a vaguely threatening or directive twitter post that is justification for killing him. In which case a million other micro-aggressions come up and all of them are a justification for killing. Some guy was angry and spoke too loud to you. Shoot him he was a potential threat. The libertarian community was spreading leaflets around about having a small government back. Invade and kill them since they were a potential threat because they wanted the government back and it was only a matter of time before they got enough support What part of non aggression pact do you not see?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501321362 135392224,135404624,2017-07-29 09:47:30,If you lived in a community where people were killed for making threats you would not threaten people. You would be forced to act rationally and be kind to others. Yes all the aggressive impulsive people should be killed off. They incite the violence. I don't have a problem with that.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501321650 135392224,135405090,2017-07-29 09:53:10,">>135404624 >If you lived in a community where people were killed for making threats you would not threaten people. You would be forced to act rationally and be kind to others. Yes all the aggressive impulsive people should be killed off. They incite the violence. I don't have a problem with that. So once again communists who don't make threats are totally fine proving Ancap removal is a meme since communists are allowed to exist. And only the aggressive ones are removed. Unless you do some mental gymnastics and say by simply being a communist your being overtly aggressive enough to justify actually gunning people and children down (even a small dude weed nudist hippie commune) in which case everything from libertarians to theocracies have got to be purged since they threaten the status quo of anarchy",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501321990 135392224,135405568,2017-07-29 09:59:23,">>135405090 Yes I am telling you, abolishing property is aggression. Abolishing private property is the definition of communism. And so communism is aggression. The small peaceful hippe communes won't exist, not because I would find it just to kill them, but because they lack the stability to defend their property. They will be too poor to pay others to protect them. It's just a failing model. They will be out competed. All the shit you're going on about is possible in theory, but it will never happen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501322363 135392224,135405996,2017-07-29 10:04:38,">>135405090 You're also forgetting that in a libertarian society, absent the state there is no such thing as public property. All properties will belong to a proprietor who has absolute control of what goes down on his property. That proprietor can remove you just because he doesn't like your face if he wants.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501322678 135392224,135406103,2017-07-29 10:06:02,">>135405090 Communists are a threat because their ideology stems from takeover of the means of production by any means necessary (especially violence) and forceful redistribution of property in order to abolish private property, hence commies violate the NAP by their very existence. What part of that is so difficult to understand?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501322762 135392224,135406151,2017-07-29 10:06:36,Rate,,Anonymous,Compass 2017.png,o+cwwyybZwiXZp4pTovb0A==,,,1501322796 135392224,135406272,2017-07-29 10:08:01,">>135406151 Spekr puts you in Purple by default. Do a normalfag test then I'll rate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501322881 135392224,135406423,2017-07-29 10:09:56,">>135392224 Why are objectivists welcome in this thread when most of them are open borders advocates? Why do you link a book by David Friedman, an open borders advocate?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501322996 135392224,135406457,2017-07-29 10:10:24,">>135405568 >Yes I am telling you, abolishing property is aggression. Abolishing private property is the definition of communism. And so communism is aggression. Wrong people willingly living in a communist commune not making threats is not aggressive. Your going though some mental gymnastics in that case libertarians wishing for the government back have also got to be purged since they threaten your total freedom. > but because they lack the stability to defend their property. Who's to say this hippie commune doesn't have guns. And surly these roving gangs of bandits you say would remove them would be removed by someone else for being a threat to the local community, since if there really is a mad max tier gang, they would be raiding local roads and isolated towns in which case you wouldn't live anywhere but a city if these bandits really existed. And if not your actually allowing mad max gangs running around your country which is laughable and comparable to Somalia which you guys always say won't happen. > They will be too poor to pay others to protect them. It's just a failing model. They will be out competed. They have the right to their commune. And if you argue coca cola would just go and purge them for more land you've destroyed your non aggression part of Ancap and proven Might makes Right. Who's going to remove them if they grow their own food and weed? Are you advocating for killing people who disagree with you. Surely the catholic church would have to be removed then, since they swear loyalty to the pope and """"""""""indoctrinate"""""""""" people into following the church and not anarchism just like communism does",,Anonymous,,,,,1501323024 135392224,135407166,2017-07-29 10:18:39,">>135406423 Please read all of this >>135392249 >>135392298 >>135392323 >>135392356 I remember you from another thread. You should understand why opening the borders and forcing the taxpayer to subsidies every man woman and child that comes this way if a far greater violation of the non aggression principle than it is to exclude those people. End the welfare state and abolish civil rights and then we can talk about ending state controlled borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501323519 135392224,135407457,2017-07-29 10:22:01,">>135407166 Opening borders violates nobody's individual rights. The violation of the non-aggression principle occurs when the government taxes you. Someone crossing America's illegitimate national borders is not a violation of the non-aggression principle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501323721 135392224,135407570,2017-07-29 10:23:22,">>135406457 Show me the successful, prosperous communist society that could not only compete with capitalist societies, but also did so without compulsion. Even if they can act peacefully in theory (which has never been shown to be the case) they will never be able to compete with capitalists. Sure they have a right not to be fucked with if they are truly non aggressive. But they'll fuck themselves, unless you have Brilliant argument for the pragmatic nature of communism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501323802 135392224,135407831,2017-07-29 10:26:15,">>135407457 Right the people crossing are not the aggressors, the state is when they force us to subsidies their breeding. Seriously do read that shit. At very least watch Lew Rockwell's open borders: a libertarian reappraisal and address the argument he makes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501323975 135392224,135407839,2017-07-29 10:26:21,Wall of Text : The Board,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501323981 135392224,135407844,2017-07-29 10:26:21,">>135407570 >Show me the successful, prosperous communist society that could not only compete with capitalist societies, but also did so without compulsion. They don't have to compete they just have to exist. Just like homosexuals simply by them existing they are harming society however their doing it non aggressively communism doesn't need a state to spread",,Anonymous,,,,,1501323981 135392224,135407971,2017-07-29 10:27:59,">>135407831 Exactly, the state is the aggressor, not the immigrants. So when you demand tight immigration policy, you're the one demanding violence against innocent people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501324079 135392224,135408084,2017-07-29 10:29:17,">>135407844 >white people don't need to compete with the rest of the world they can just exist! It's not like they're becoming a minority and dying off! You're a fool if you believe that. Regardless in a private property society proprietors have no obligation to tolerate communism, homosexuality, or anything else they find distasteful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501324157 135392224,135408297,2017-07-29 10:31:43,">>135407971 Opening the borders is an aggression against my property, they take my money, my labor to pay for their welfare, healthcare schools ect ect. Please watch Lew, you'll understand how opening the borders is a greater aggression than excluding immigrants.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501324303 135392224,135408322,2017-07-29 10:32:04,">>135403492 Can't blame them, if they have faulty examples pushed forward by the communists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501324324 135392224,135408411,2017-07-29 10:33:10,">>135403442 Free speech isn't free. You're not free to spread ideas that threaten the natural order, not even on your own property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501324390 135392224,135408571,2017-07-29 10:35:07,">>135407839 It's the only thread with actual political discussion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501324507 135392224,135408591,2017-07-29 10:35:20,">>135407457 The borders were drawn by blood in the sand in the south and contracts with Russia and British Canada in the North. As long as there's any public property in a country, that country should only accept the best of the best of other countries' people, not any woman-killing Somalian nigger who just wants gibs. I bet you think LARPen Roads is a reasonable person.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501324520 135392224,135408787,2017-07-29 10:37:33,">>135408084 >white people don't need to compete with the rest of the world they can just exist! It's not like they're becoming a minority and dying off! I never said that stop putting words in my mouth you autist. I said in ancap a small self sufficient communist commune doesn't have to compete with coca cola to exist. How will the Amish exist if they don't have factories?!? >Regardless in a private property society proprietors have no obligation to tolerate communism, homosexuality, or anything else they find distasteful. They don't have too have them on their property. but all the homosexuals would still very much exist on other peoples propertys. Or have we forgotten that Hollywood Jews with billions of dollars will continue to make films which make millions more.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501324653 135392224,135408790,2017-07-29 10:37:34,"People need to understand a couple of things: being libertarian doesn't mean agreeing with transgenderism, 56 genders ideology, gays, drug abuse, owning guns....it means letting people do that even though you find that wrong. It means respecting one's freedom to the fullest. I, for one, think e.g. ""changing your sex"" is pure idiotism, but I'd allow it. It doesn't harm me. Maybe I'm tottaly wrong about them. Who the hell knows?",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1501324654 135392224,135408890,2017-07-29 10:38:34,">>135408411 see >>135404255 >>135405090",,Anonymous,,,,,1501324714 135392224,135408980,2017-07-29 10:39:32,">>135408790 nibba you letting them do it is one thing, but you have a full right to refuse them service or terminate a contract with them. if you're their security provider and they chop their dick off, you have a right to simply stop protecting them",,Anonymous,,,,,1501324772 135392224,135409020,2017-07-29 10:39:54,">>135408297 Lew Rockwell is retarded. Again, no violence is occurring when someone passes through national borders. The violence occurs when the government taxes you. If you were actually libertarian, you would attack the government, not the immigrants. Instead you want to allow the government to claim the right to dictate who passes through its illegitimate national borders. You want to legitimize government authority.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501324794 135392224,135409097,2017-07-29 10:40:46,">>135408790 And there's your problem gays and transgenders spread. If you expose people to these conditions they spread It's no wonder liberal families have more gay kids since they're raised in a way that encourages it. A ""victimless"" crime still hurts the moral standing off a community and the future morality of the children",,Anonymous,,,,,1501324846 135392224,135409151,2017-07-29 10:41:24,">>135408591 >The borders were drawn by blood in the sand in the south and contracts with Russia and British Canada in the North. Which means those borders are illegitimate according to libertarian property theory.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501324884 135392224,135409337,2017-07-29 10:43:19,">>135408890 >mild ""seize the means of production"" is open calling for property crime, thus that person should be physically removed IN THE LEAST. Killed if they resist, there can be no tolerance. And that's some of the tamer shit those vermin say. Again, no tolerance. What some ausfag says about loud speech being threatening is of no consequence because the only people threatened by such things are women and have no business being online unless they're pregnant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501324999 135392224,135409493,2017-07-29 10:45:11,">>135409020 The immigrants vote for bigger government, as it is the government that allows them to pass in the first place. Furthermore, they artificially bump up demand for goods (including public services that haven't been abolished yet) and thus make everything worse for everybody. As long as there's any public property, immigration should be as tight as possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501325111 135392224,135409501,2017-07-29 10:45:13,">>135408980 Absolutely. I'm just trying to break the myth of libertarians being some sort of SJWs who adore all this shit. Most of the libertarians I know aren't fans of what /pol/ calls degeneracy, they just wouldn't hang those people immediately. I'd allow all of that, but, as you said, I want to be able to refuse to have any bussines with those people, without explanation (very important).",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1501325113 135392224,135409588,2017-07-29 10:46:19,">>135409337 Once again mental gymnastics a small weed smoking hippie commune is not going to go kill you. They are going to peacefully convince people to become communists. The teachings of marxist respected schools and the media still exist in ancap. If you believe that then libertarians pushing for the government to return must be purged. Along with Catholics pushing for increased church control. All of this peacefully and non aggressively removal is a big fucking meme you like to sprout but it only happens when their lining up guns at your house",,Anonymous,,,,,1501325179 135392224,135409644,2017-07-29 10:46:54,">>135409020 >Lew Rockwell is retarded Is Rothbard retarded to you? Because Lews presentation is just a rundown on Rothbard's Nations by consent. >The common misconception of the left-libertarian is that so long as the government controls a resource that resource must be freely available to all. This is foolish, it is precisely why governments are inefficient and destructive mechanisms for organising human society. No such condition could exist in a society based on private property. Who could imagine in a stateless world that all of humanity could simultaneously exploit a resource without completely depleting its value or doing violence to one another in the process, this is what we commonly call the tragedy of the commons. Privatization eliminates this tragic phenomenon but until that privatization occurs it is imperative to our very survival that governments act as good stewards of these resources on behalf of their true owners; the taxpayers. That means a great deal of discrimination and violence done in defense thereof.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501325214 135392224,135409772,2017-07-29 10:48:21,">>135409493 ""Illegal"" immigrants don't vote. Even most legal immigrants vote. Native-born Americans are the ones voting in politicians and creating the current state of affairs. Native born Americans, more than anybody else, are the ones using government services and accepting transfer payments. You right-wing faux-libertarians are again trying to justify government violence against peaceful individuals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501325301 135392224,135409782,2017-07-29 10:48:27,">>135409151 They were drawn in a conflict and an agreement was decided that they should be maintained. Now both parties (U.S. and Mexico's governments) are squeamish at best at doing their job in maintenance, so unless they plan on privatising everything (which is the only way to really stop taxation), they are doomed to the commons being divided among more people who through voting will try to take away private property from its owners. If you want to avoid this, privatise everything and then national borders will be the borders between American property owners and Mexican property owners, each with a right to exclude people at will.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501325307 135392224,135409830,2017-07-29 10:48:57,">>135409097 But so what if they spread? Who are you to deny them that right. You are nomire human than they are. You spread too if you are superior as you claim, but let them do their thing too. Victimless crimes hurt you? Poor boy, don't cry. Victimless crime is BS, maybe I don't like your haircut, it hurts me.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1501325337 135392224,135410076,2017-07-29 10:51:42,">>135409644 Are you serious? Government are stewards of our resources? Rothbard, more than anybody else, understood that the state is the most criminal institution in society. And no, national resources aren't owned by taxpayers. Rockwell or 90s Rothbard apparently don't understand libertarian property theory. Did you do any homesteading for those resources? Then how can you claim that you own a share in them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501325502 135392224,135410170,2017-07-29 10:52:55,"The ""libertarian right"" actually think thought crime should be punishable. Can y'all stop calling yourselves libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501325575 135392224,135410238,2017-07-29 10:53:38,">>135409588 If a hippie commune spreading communism ""peacefully"" is weak enough to be subdued or destroyed, I say it should be. If they're too strong or otherwise the costs of a takeover outweigh the benefits, they should be subverted like America was in the 60s. The libertarians who want a small government will be comfortable with the system of the natural order, where tenants live on micromonarchs' lands.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501325618 135392224,135410317,2017-07-29 10:54:22,">>135409772 You're trolling at this point.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501325662 135392224,135410383,2017-07-29 10:55:02,">>135410170 /leftypol/ get out.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501325702 135392224,135410401,2017-07-29 10:55:14,">>135410076 I personally own a share because my income was stolen to provide those services. Those who write off late Rothbard as an old kook are without exception a cancer on the movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501325714 135392224,135410474,2017-07-29 10:56:02,">>135410317 >defending the actual libertarian position against statist faux-libertarians who want to use government violence against immigrants is ""trolling""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501325762 135392224,135410587,2017-07-29 10:57:11,">>135410401 Statists authoritarians like you who are posing as libertarians are the cancer to the movement",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501325831 135392224,135410627,2017-07-29 10:57:34,">>135410474 >government violence It's a security force provided for by taxpayers to defend their property (public property, which is paid for by them). I bet you don't support privatisation of net welfare recipients, commie.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501325854 135392224,135410739,2017-07-29 10:58:54,">>135410627 >Government is a ""security force"" to defend property You claim to admire Rothbard but you don't even understand Rothbard 101",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501325934 135392224,135410779,2017-07-29 10:59:15,">>135409830 >But so what if they spread? ""Transgenders are fine by me, i literally don't care if 99% of the world are mentally ill. just not on my property ;)"" This is you >Who are you to deny them that right Then who are ancaps to take out peaceful communist communes? Oh right I forgot they actually are fine with communists just not on their property or making threats. Making the whole removal aspact a large joke >You are nomire human than they are I am mentally sane they are not. > You spread too if you are superior as you claim Then how did communism spread though the lower classes in America if communism is so inferior surely antifa shouldn't even exist. It's not like the media has an effect on people at all and there are many international forces constantly at play > Victimless crimes hurt you? Poor boy, don't cry Strawman. Seeing gay people increases the amount of ""people"" who come out. I guarantee you Sweden and Germany and the more free society's have the highest rates of homosexuality/transsexuality around",,Anonymous,,,,,1501325955 135392224,135410969,2017-07-29 11:01:27,">>135410587 Read Rothbard faggot. Don't close your eyes because you dont like what you see.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501326087 135392224,135411113,2017-07-29 11:03:03,">>135410969 I have read Rothbard, statist. Anatomy of the State was an eye opener for me. None of his sincere libertarian writing justifies government violence against immigrants.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501326183 135392224,135411115,2017-07-29 11:03:05,">>135410739 It's paid for by stolen money, so it better fuckin do its job.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501326185 135392224,135411301,2017-07-29 11:05:05,">>135410779 >more strawmen I bet trannies will be delighted when they cut their dicks off and the only people who respect them are hunted down in a holy crusade against communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501326305 135392224,135411343,2017-07-29 11:05:32,">>135411115 You are a fake Rothbardian. The state is robbing you and restricting your individual liberty and here you are demanding violence against innocent human beings and calling the state your protector. .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501326332 135392224,135411505,2017-07-29 11:07:33,">>135411113 All of his writing is sincere understand what he meant. Nations by consent. Read it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501326453 135392224,135411614,2017-07-29 11:08:57,">>135411343 You're a fake Rothbardian, you won't even read his late stuff because it offends you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501326537 135392224,135411736,2017-07-29 11:10:08,">>135411301 >I bet trannies will be delighted when they cut their dicks off and the only people who respect them are hunted down in a holy crusade against communism. So how come companies don't actively discriminate against tranies now. Mcdonalds wouldn't care who buys it's fucking burgers only that they get sold. It's almost like privately owned media by Jews can change peoples opinions and these media stations and Hollywood movies make billions of dollars each year so they would have far superior pmc's at their disposal And why are they being hunted down that's a breach of their nap if their not making threats or being aggressive you have no moral basis on ancap to kill them, and now your just proving might makes right and your entire society is a laughable joke devolving into Somalia tier factions",,Anonymous,,,,,1501326608 135392224,135411780,2017-07-29 11:10:40,">>135411343 Communist are not innocent human beings. Heck they're not even humans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501326640 135392224,135411875,2017-07-29 11:11:43,">>135392224 Illegal immigrants should be subject to asset forfeiture. These assets should then go to ICE and pay for the wall. This effectively takes the incentive out of illegal immigration while also paying for the solution. All citizens that qualify for a 25% tax rate and above should be given a one time 25,000 refundable tax credit for every child they produce. This tax credit should be paid for by cutting the feminazi communist programs like free daycare for poor people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501326703 135392224,135411973,2017-07-29 11:12:40,">>135411780 Again peaceful communists are more then welcome in ancap society. If they agree to respect their neighbors rights they have no moral basis on which to attack them What part of NON AGGRESSION PACT do you not see?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501326760 135392224,135412491,2017-07-29 11:18:09,">>135411973 The part where communists are aggressors by their own claim.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501327089 135392224,135412559,2017-07-29 11:19:09,">>135410779 1. Yeah, i wouldn't care if 99.9% o the people are transgender. How do you know they are mentally ill? You're not mentally ill for believing that a piece of bread turns into a body of a dead jew, but this is illnes? Try again. 2. I'm not ancap. 3. Are you a scientist? Have you prove that? No one has. Don't claim that. Even if they are mentally ill, what then? ""Beat"" them in a more sophiaticated manner, not ""You're not allowe to do this, that and that because I think you're mentally ill!"" 4. Attacking me on something I never mentioned. I didn't mention communism being inferior. But even if it is, it can still spread. Bad ideas spread. 5. So what if it does? Let them be gays if they want. That's like me saying more herero people increases the amount of herero people...? What?!?",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1501327149 135392224,135412956,2017-07-29 11:24:00,">>135412559 Sry for all the typos, I'm on my fckn phone",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1501327440 135392224,135412964,2017-07-29 11:24:06,">>135412491 I said peaceful communists A small commune of hippies is not about go kill you. Like I said before in that case anyone wishing for the return of a state in any sense has also got to be purged since that infringes on your freedoms. Anyone from Monarchists, fascists, to libertarians, minachists, theocracies and anyone who doesn't believe in 100% freedom have all got to be perpetually purged in a never ending cycle of purging. In which case your not very free if thought crime and how you run your own mini commune is now a thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501327446 135392224,135413125,2017-07-29 11:26:17,">>135412559 All right there we have it ladies and Gentlemen. The right wing element of the libertarian movement Very socially conservative i must say",,Anonymous,,,,,1501327577 135392224,135413444,2017-07-29 11:30:00,">>135413125 Exactly what I said in my 1st post. Not socially conservative, not socially liberal. Or actually any of those, but don't interfere because you don't claim to be smarter than anyone else.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1501327800 135392224,135413990,2017-07-29 11:36:00,">>135412964 Abolishing private property is agression. Some random hippies are either not communists or not peaceful. They can only be one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501328160 135392224,135414354,2017-07-29 11:39:56,">>135412964 >peaceful communists Like moderate muslims.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501328396 135392224,135414909,2017-07-29 11:45:49,">>135413990 >>135414354 That's 19th century communists speaking to you. People like Bernie Sanders or ones even more economically extreme have no need for violent revolution anymore. In fact that's the whole basis of modern communism doing it non violently, hence why the media,movies,entertainment,politics and education have all been turned into Marxist education places. And many of these institutions mainly entertainment and the media shall remain in Ancap. Movies are very economically profitable and we've seen the anti-white dribble they piss out. And once again my previous point of Anyone from Monarchists, fascists, to libertarians, minachists, theocracies and anyone who doesn't believe in 100% freedom have all got to be perpetually purged in a never ending cycle of death and thoughtcrime. In which case your not very free if how you run your own mini private commune is now a thing. Therefore proving either the nap is impossible or Might makes Right and anarchism is unfeasible",,Anonymous,,,,,1501328749 135392224,135414969,2017-07-29 11:46:35,">>135411343 I pay the state despite my lack of consent, so I might as well use it to my advantage, since apart from violence, I have no other option. I don't want immigrants on my property or in my country, so I want strict border control.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501328795 135392224,135415219,2017-07-29 11:49:27,">>135411736 They are legally not allowed to. Civil Kikes Act and all that, things that libertarians ruthlessly oppose. The Jews push narratives contrary to the natural order, so they too shall be physically removed. >their nap Lesser stupidity than this has caused mankind to fall.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501328967 135392224,135415270,2017-07-29 11:50:05,">>135411973 >(((Adam Kokesh))) with a NatSoc flag gee, rly mak u thnk",,Anonymous,,,,,1501329005 135392224,135415360,2017-07-29 11:51:01,">>135412964 They preach murder and theft against property owners, and people have historically acted upon their preachings, and they endorsed such behaviour. No tolerance.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501329061 135392224,135415747,2017-07-29 11:55:43,">>135414909 Become a proprietor, don't allow communist propaganda In your society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501329343 135392224,135416362,2017-07-29 12:03:06,">>135415219 Yes Jews have a nap and they can make as many anti-white movies as they want. Don't see the movie then. If people want to consume that type of media then that is their right. What was all that ancap goes on about how the magic hand of the free market will get rid of Jews when I've proven otherwise. I thought you guys were for the free market? Now all of sudden you want to censor rich businessmens films simply cause it offends you? Just don't watch hollywood film then, I'm sure you'll make a big difference Also have fun trying to purge them anyway when they have billions of dollars and the best pmc's >>135415360 Your taking a very literal definition. Bernie sanders under ancap no one has the moral right to kill him since he wants socialism voluntarily voted in by the people. If he's not advocating for the means of production and private property to be violently seized you have no moral right to kill him. You can ban him and his propaganda from your land but you have no moral right to kill him if he's doing it peacefully. >>135415747 Exactly you can do that, but the rest of 99% of people will keep watching fox and cnn and hollywood films all of which make good profits. Either you've got to outright ban certain things all over the country making you no longer anarchists but minachists or watch your society slowly become more marxist and anti-white anyway since these rich Jews still hold immense power",,Anonymous,,,,,1501329786 135392224,135416456,2017-07-29 12:04:27,">>135416362 >have a nap boi. Boi. BOI. Nigger if you're this dumb, I doubt I can help you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501329867 135392224,135416534,2017-07-29 12:05:14,">>135416362 Also there's no democracy in AnCap, just a friendly reminder.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501329914 135392224,135416938,2017-07-29 12:10:35,">>135416456 Yeah making a anti-white film. Something like starwars with racemixing encouragement and some marxist propaganda is not an act of aggression. You do not have to watch the film nor is it aggressive in the slightest or a breach of the nap. >>135416534 I'm aware my point was Bernie sanders peaceful way to implemting socailism in ancap is very much allowed. If he says he's going to convince people peacefully to turn socialists you can boot him off your property and ban his shit on your land but he is very much allowed to continue spreading his propaanda",,Anonymous,,,,,1501330235 135392224,135416968,2017-07-29 12:10:56,">>135414909 >a never ending cycle of death and thoughtcrime That's what happens in communists countries.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501330256 135392224,135417335,2017-07-29 12:15:25,">>135416938 Don't allow race mixing star wars movies in your covenant. Do you really want to stop the hippie communists from watching that? Just get all your good white people in your land and ban that shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501330525 135392224,135417348,2017-07-29 12:15:31,">>135394111 how much do you bench cuck?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501330531 135392224,135417352,2017-07-29 12:15:33,"For a libertarian society to come about, we must first go through a right-wing revival. Fashies are friends.",,Anonymous,ancap wave.gif,1A346pVxfIezF8NFnDC+Yw==,US,,1501330533 135392224,135417481,2017-07-29 12:17:02,">Hurr durr taxes is theft >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3hd4CKGY98 This is how it would look like without taxes Libertarians BTFO",,Anonymous,1501344878608.jpg,veT9yPOMIxx4fE7q85GraA==,SE,,1501330622 135392224,135417525,2017-07-29 12:17:33,">>135416968 Communists don't pretend to have freedom of government and land. Some of the ancaps here are saying you should outright go and murder a bunch of hippie socialists hurting no one and preaching ""peace man"" when that breaks the hippies naps since their obviously not the 1930's type of violent communists and they still respect your rights. In which case your neither free to live how you want and the nap is a impossible to archive. Or anarchism can't work since you need to keep on purging literally everything from absolute monarchists to libertarians who want the state back.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501330653 135392224,135417784,2017-07-29 12:20:44,">>135417481 smaller and rural communities have to band together and fund their own roads because our government won't give them any. Not to mention, roadbuilding is practically already private, the government is just a middle man. Businesses ask for roads, the government hires a company. Do you think you have any say over us sweden? Your government is literally selling your race out, and giving shit loads of money to sandniggers who rape your women. Europeans are a weak-willed people, and deserve their wages of sin.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501330844 135392224,135418040,2017-07-29 12:23:23,">>135417335 Of course you don't have to see it. But the large masses of people will and they'll keep pushing that anti-white stuff and making a nice profit of it and the media as well.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501331003 135392224,135418097,2017-07-29 12:24:05,">>135416938 Spreading the idea that my right to life is forfeit though I had done nothing to deserve it is a violation of the NAP. That means if Atomwaffen Division were to set off a dirty bomb in (((Hollywood))), hypothetically speaking of course, I'd thank them. No, promoting such ideas as genocide of a people and abolition of property goes contrary to freedom: the right of man to life, liberty and possessions. That means their propaganda is not allowed and they will have to be physically removed... so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501331045 135392224,135418246,2017-07-29 12:25:48,">>135417352 Indeed. Libertarian fascism or a NatCap monarchy is great. For how much the Irregulars signal and purity spiral, they're not wrong in their political views.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501331148 135392224,135418301,2017-07-29 12:26:23,">>135418040 You care about the masses of communists and degenerates now? Let the Jews destroy them. Don't allow it in your land.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501331183 135392224,135418515,2017-07-29 12:28:45,">>135417525 >some of us No, this belief is central to /lrg/. Let's confuse you harder: if we gain control of the System, why not use its powers to our advantage before we kill it? Immediately terminate all hormonal replacement programs, strictly prohibit genital mutilation of all sorts, and actually allow services to function the way they should. Then, after this war is done and the situation has stabilised, we can go about our city-states and private property covenant societies and such. Of course, if this can't be achieved, we shall go for the SIEGE option.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501331325 135392224,135418650,2017-07-29 12:30:08,">>135418040 The statists are incapable of reinstating a state without the use of force. Encouraging the undermining of property rights should be treated in the same regard as other direct threats. There is a distinction between arguing for the supposed benefit of a state, and arguing for the forceful creation of said state.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1501331408 135392224,135419138,2017-07-29 12:35:50,">>135412964 Of course people can speak out against someone else's property, but as long as they keep it on their own property and never enter the other person's property, it's within their right. Really the question is when is it OK to quell an brewing communist rebellion?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501331750 135392224,135419204,2017-07-29 12:36:28,">>135418040 >No, promoting such ideas as genocide of a people and abolition of property goes contrary to freedom: Wrong it is not promoting the genocide it is simply encouraging free people to consider freely loving someone of the other race. You are free to have your own white kids. Anyway they are not forcing you to either watch the films or follow it's advice. The free people and the free market have made up their mind and decided to see the film. You are no longer an anarchist or a lover of the free market >the right of man to life, liberty and possessions. yeah and if a movie shows the positive side of marrying a Black or Hispanic the future white girl is making a free choice to do so. The movie has done no such thing encouraging genocide. Unless the words KILL ALL WHITE PEOPLE pop up you have no moral basis on which to ban the movies because it hurts your feelings when the free market and free individuals are making an informed decision >That means their propaganda is not allowed and they will have to be physically removed Wrong propaganda is not aggressive it is simply a point of view being pushed. You can shut yourself off from it completely, there has been no nap break because you are willingly consuming the media >>135418301 Oh no I don't but you've either got to admit your not actually freedom anarchists since your outright banning certain ideologues from even running a 10 man village or that the nap is a stupid fucking concept since agression is a highly definable term. Shouting at someone could be justification for shooting his head off. >>135418650 I agree with you hence why everything from libertarians to monarchists to minachists have to be purged and that makes you no longer free to live how you want because eventually that libertarian communie will grow and grow and one day push for the state to return, in practice it's just like the communists pushing for the state to come back.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501331788 135392224,135419266,2017-07-29 12:37:10,">>135418515 You make me so proud.",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1501331830 135392224,135419432,2017-07-29 12:38:50,">>135392767 Mises, Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand were not ancaps.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501331930 135392224,135419470,2017-07-29 12:39:14,">>135415219 Couldn't you prove mathematically that it'd be stupid to not open the hiring base to as wide a group as possible and open the consumer base to wide a group as possible? If all races were truly equal, then it'd be a loss on productivity and revenue to be racist to who you hire and who you serve.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501331954 135392224,135419547,2017-07-29 12:39:53,">>135418097 misquoted. Your the first reply here >>135419204 >>135419138 I agree that is the question in ancap however plenty of your other ancaps here wouldn't even allow 10 people to run a communist farm. In which case your not free to live how you want or your not Anachists",,Anonymous,,,,,1501331993 135392224,135419727,2017-07-29 12:41:55,">>135419470 Also the reason why minorities like Asians and Jews (and even Blacks to some extent) beat whites before the war on poverty was because they undercut whites in capitalism. Blacks had a higher employment rate until racist whites implemented minimum wage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501332115 135392224,135419829,2017-07-29 12:42:49,">>135419204 You don't understand property rights and that most people won't own land in AnCapistan. You'll live on a proprietors land and he can ban whatever he wants. You might think that is authoritarianism, but it's the very essence of anarchism and property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501332169 135392224,135420517,2017-07-29 12:50:01,">>135419829 No I do understand that. The people here are arguing if certain Proprietors wanted a communist commune and to spread it though peaceful routes of which you could block them from your land and block all propaganda for you. That this commune should be violently put down because it doesn't subscribe with your world view. In which case either the nap is a dumb concept and has to be broken repeatedly making it useless and it's value lesser or your not free to live how you want and must subscribe to only a few very specific types of """"""""""anarchism""""""""""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501332601 135392224,135421404,2017-07-29 13:00:37,">>135420517 I see what you're saying but there is no way that a communist society without property could be prosperous enough to be expansionist and that they could do so without violence on other societies. If they're doing so by making propaganda and not profiting (being communists and all) there is no value being created. They're basically wasting resources by making star wars movies they give to their people for free. Communism is born to fail. They could only do so by adopting capitalism and all the property norms we have at which point they'd adopt same model as us and they're wouldn't be communism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501333237 135392224,135421475,2017-07-29 13:01:24,,,Anonymous,1500846504418m.jpg,HhobU00CfjXpuE9AdlgNDA==,US,,1501333284 135392224,135421835,2017-07-29 13:05:44,,,Anonymous,1484458284351.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1501333544 135392224,135422371,2017-07-29 13:12:36,>commies are all about peace guys!,,Anonymous,Commies (1).jpg,yL1qw3koHy3lpzfz0QPPhw==,US,,1501333956 135392224,135422529,2017-07-29 13:14:16,>lol we can compete against those fascist capitalists without the states help!,,Anonymous,Commies (2).jpg,60mmAahICu+QRdjBXMIZlQ==,US,,1501334056 135392224,135423013,2017-07-29 13:19:52,">>135418246 NatCap, aside from being a meme ideology, is just Natsoc with a belief in free markets and free trade.",,Anonymous,676614.jpg,xsfSjGVFGeAbk3IDq5clPw==,US,,1501334392 135392224,135423670,2017-07-29 13:27:42,">>135423013 Natcap is a cool idea I've played around with, but I realized that having a central government that basically just protects AnCapistan sets the ruler up to be replaced by the market. It would become decentralized if the state didn't obstruct the market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501334862 135392224,135424045,2017-07-29 13:31:44,What is to be done about Commies? I'm in yellow,,Anonymous,Commie conversation.jpg,8YWFYv9iFvfGGhtoIB3BmQ==,,,1501335104 135392224,135424295,2017-07-29 13:34:38,">>135424045 Don't debate them. It's pointless. They just have to be removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501335278 135392224,135426058,2017-07-29 13:55:12,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.34.47.jpg,ZMJSCI1yerTMFffOfxOjqw==,US,,1501336512 135392224,135426775,2017-07-29 14:03:29,">>135426058 Thank you hsm.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501337009 135392224,135427058,2017-07-29 14:06:35,,,Anonymous,Pinochet2.png,EPijOTFEUJYgd+z3/n65tg==,,,1501337195 135392224,135427175,2017-07-29 14:08:03,">>135427058 with colord background",,Anonymous,Pinochet.png,pD2Hcn5SEvy6OJ2j1UkeIA==,,,1501337283 135392224,135428304,2017-07-29 14:20:59,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1501338059 135392224,135428313,2017-07-29 14:21:06,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1501338066 135392224,135428892,2017-07-29 14:27:25,">>135428304 Dank look, but you should do ""enemy of the state"" instead of plugging his book.",,Anonymous,1491777081387_0.gif,ufUyAuuCSdPNNfcXgs29jA==,US,,1501338445 135392224,135428908,2017-07-29 14:27:37,,,Anonymous,1500846561932.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1501338457 135392224,135428985,2017-07-29 14:28:39,">>135428892 Thanks for the advise",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501338519 135392224,135429197,2017-07-29 14:31:04,Can any of y'all recommend some agorist reading past SEKIII?,,Anonymous,,,,,1501338664 135398213,135398213,2017-07-29 08:15:50,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1501224193215.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,,,1501316150 135446784,135446784,2017-07-29 17:38:53,"his is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,picardo_3d.png,pBj7rYnsp9F9F3jkvQZo/g==,GB,,1501349933 135446784,135446947,2017-07-29 17:40:27,,,Anonymous,communist_points.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,GB,,1501350027 135446784,135447025,2017-07-29 17:41:11,,,Anonymous,freedom_is_degenerate.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,GB,,1501350071 135446784,135447065,2017-07-29 17:41:37,,,Anonymous,lrg_open_borders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,GB,,1501350097 135446784,135447090,2017-07-29 17:41:55,,,Anonymous,the_west_is_the_best.png,S+yqfcOC0Wj+9gR2snLXPA==,GB,,1501350115 135446784,135447137,2017-07-29 17:42:25,,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,GB,,1501350145 135446784,135447172,2017-07-29 17:42:47,">British libertarian So what, a socialist lite?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501350167 135446784,135447179,2017-07-29 17:42:50,,,Anonymous,weapons_are_the_means_to_liberty.png,eI5O6TirBEeoRBs5ceYQNQ==,GB,,1501350170 135446784,135447313,2017-07-29 17:44:12,">>135447172 As much as I love this country, I hate it's government - Ideally, I'd get out of western europe sooner than later.",,Anonymous,shills_of_lrg.png,NoBObmXVy2sf/FRxGX1oBg==,GB,,1501350252 135446784,135447391,2017-07-29 17:44:56,,,Anonymous,RightWingers.jpg,MY0Dl90Ehv8VKRcWd9T3ug==,US,,1501350296 135446784,135447468,2017-07-29 17:45:46,">>135446784 Hail /lrg/",,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1501350346 135446784,135447496,2017-07-29 17:46:07,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1501350367 135446784,135447671,2017-07-29 17:48:04,,,Anonymous,Live_Free_Or_Die.png,AEqsH5N/AdSxX8w4IzQ9aQ==,US,,1501350484 135446784,135447853,2017-07-29 17:50:07,"It's funny how Ancaps are supposed to be opposed to communism yet the idea of anarchism is purely a marxist idea. The end goal of communism is to dissolve the state. Really gets those almonds activated? Plus the free market isn't going to magically preserve your people or your values. How can anyone follow this absolutely degenerate ideology. Isn't it made by a fucking kike named rothbard? The only ""people"" we should be throwing from choppers is these faggots",,Anonymous,1494206925774.jpg,aclEqmQcWEnFmg9gjgBH8Q==,,,1501350607 135446784,135448246,2017-07-29 17:54:31,">>135447853 Lets be clear here, faggot. National Socialism is authoritarian center left-wing faggotry. National Socialism does not exist as the antithesis to communism but rather a more pragmatic competeing form of socialism. Hitler, just like Mussolini and all the other fascists were inspired by far left socialism in their youth. It is the basis of the ideology. ALL socialists get the airbourne oven. cuckboy.",,Anonymous,Socialism2.jpg,cxdUaiX8j7iaTNyVce+VmA==,US,,1501350871 135446784,135448512,2017-07-29 17:57:23,"Yo, back from the corax conference, took notes on Hoppe's speech, attended Julie Borowski's too and yesterday Jeff Deist, had drinks and a chat with Hans Hermann Hoppe himself and plenty of other ancaps here, fucking awesome experience, doing an AMA if anyone is interested. Feel free to ask!",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501351043 135446784,135448748,2017-07-29 17:59:46,">>135448512 fuck yeah man, been waiting for you to show up! What was hoppe's speech on? What did you talk to him about? does he know of his legendary memes?",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1501351186 135446784,135448840,2017-07-29 18:00:40,">>135447853 >>>/trash/ But I'll refute it anyways. >anarchism is purely a marxist idea Anarcho-capitalism is to classical anarchism as national socialism is to socialism. We define anarchism as the belief that there is no political legitimacy, and thus the government is just a massive gang. >Plus the free market isn't going to magically preserve your people or your values. No shit sherlock. That doesn't mean we don't support preservation of values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501351240 135446784,135448855,2017-07-29 18:00:47,">>135448246 There is a difference between Marxist Socialism and right wing socialism fucking retard, look at marxism and you will see it takes nothing from marxism. It took the best of socialism and capitalism, and it fucking worked, got Germany's economy off its feet. Anarcho capitalism only works the world of theory, and extremely specific scenarios, drop your meme ideology",,Anonymous,,,,,1501351247 135446784,135449177,2017-07-29 18:03:48,">>135448855 anarcho-capitalism is every voluntary interaction you do. It's existed before your shit dysgenics program.",,Anonymous,Hoppe (4).png,vodplgKDngqNlpNR/Uj59A==,US,,1501351428 135446784,135449330,2017-07-29 18:05:22,">>135448246 You had some nice arguments before you started sperging out about >muh helicopter",,Anonymous,,,,,1501351522 135446784,135449446,2017-07-29 18:06:35,">>135448855 Yes we know, you're basically social democrats with pro-white sentiments. Guess what; social democracy fell apart in Nordic countries, where it was implemented the longest. The ideas of centrally planning the economy and feeding people into a massive welfare state is a relic of the 20th century.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501351595 135446784,135449492,2017-07-29 18:07:01,">>135449177 Okay? and? Feudalism existed before Natsoc aswell, that doesn't mean its better or some shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1501351621 135446784,135449504,2017-07-29 18:07:06,">>135448748 His speech was about how we should achieve liberty and about the alt right as allies in opposition to left libertarians. We had a long talk (1 hour+, more people were there but I was talking the most with him and he was mostly addressing me, which felt fucking amazing) We touched multiple issues, Trump, memes about him, misunderstandings on his critics, IQ/Bell curve, Korwin polemic, private cities, being in favor of freedom not meaning you have to engage or allow everyone around you to partake in every single potential activity/degeneracy, etc. He does know about the memes, told me people are sending memes to him all the time, made multiple references today to ""memes"" such as physical removal and a Europe of a thousand Liechtensteins, told him ""you realize these memes work in your favor?"" and he replied he knows, laughing, that these memes made him very famous, basically he's loving it, he even commented the youtube video about him throwing someone out of a helicopter lol.",,Anonymous,IMG_20170729_155935.jpg,ZQ7s4R21ZyO6A0V3u0asbw==,MT,,1501351626 135446784,135449580,2017-07-29 18:07:55,">>135449492 Feudalism is better than National socialism.",,Anonymous,Monarchy.png,shQ0vXATgrTRWOoqBgtuOg==,US,,1501351675 135446784,135449596,2017-07-29 18:08:04,So what's the Libertarian stance on Obamacare?,,Anonymous,,,,,1501351684 135446784,135449659,2017-07-29 18:08:36,First we need to clean up the world then we can have liberty,,Anonymous,,,CO,,1501351716 135446784,135449790,2017-07-29 18:09:53,">>135449596 send Obongo back and close the borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501351793 135446784,135449971,2017-07-29 18:11:54,">>135449504 sounds awesome, glad he knows of his legacy what did he say about trump?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501351914 135446784,135450044,2017-07-29 18:12:43,">freedom shiggy",,Anonymous,1493797445440m.jpg,x6tf/g2mBt6UQIaYkAQe8A==,NL,,1501351963 135446784,135450052,2017-07-29 18:12:46,">>135449971 He had hopes about him but quickly lost them the moment he decided to bomb Syria and that he's proving to be another puppet of the deep state.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501351966 135446784,135450074,2017-07-29 18:12:59,Bump,,Anonymous,IMG_3434.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1501351979 135446784,135450097,2017-07-29 18:13:15,">>135449659 You need to clean up yourself. That iis liberty.",,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,US,,1501351995 135446784,135450109,2017-07-29 18:13:20,">>135449596 It's a dumpster fire. It basically eliminates the health insurance industry as it forbids insurers from discriminating based on preexisting conditions - meaning that if you're already sick the policy costs the same as if you were healthy. Since the penalty for not buying insurance is less than the cost of insurance more and more healthy people are getting off insurance. Health insurance is funded by healthy people paying for it so now that there are fewer of them the insurers have to raise prices - which causes even more people to drop their insurance. It's the same as if you mandated by law that car insurance firms couldn't give you a higher price for insurance if you're car is already crashed when you buy the policy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501352000 135446784,135450205,2017-07-29 18:14:19,">>135450044 >freedom comes from choosing what is right yeah, we all agree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501352059 135446784,135450227,2017-07-29 18:14:28,Reminder that these threads are made by leftypol shills.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501352068 135446784,135450248,2017-07-29 18:14:42,For those of you who advocate libertarianism because you believe it upholds liberty the best can you define liberty and explain why it is important enough to warrant basing your entire political views around?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501352082 135446784,135450354,2017-07-29 18:15:40,">>135450248 Because being forced to be associated and assume other people's mistake is an infinite source of conflict.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501352140 135446784,135450425,2017-07-29 18:16:20,,,Anonymous,IMG_2839.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1501352180 135446784,135450430,2017-07-29 18:16:25,">>135446784 Am I qualified?",,Anonymous,Capture.png,R1RmP7kx0PoRF0NFODsU4g==,PS,,1501352185 135446784,135450473,2017-07-29 18:16:47,">>135450354 You don't seem to be the type of person I addressed that question to. You seem to advocate libertarianism primarily on practical grounds not in principle. You didn't answer my two questions either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501352207 135446784,135450498,2017-07-29 18:17:01,">>135450044 fascist mysticism is hilarious post more",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501352221 135446784,135450560,2017-07-29 18:17:39,">>135450248 pic related",,Anonymous,IMG_2869.jpg,zAHckILGOP16Ixe9IwgYZg==,,,1501352259 135446784,135450584,2017-07-29 18:17:53,">>135450430 Depends, do you own yourself?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501352273 135446784,135450590,2017-07-29 18:17:59,">>135447065 only small l libertarians want open borders. Illegal immigration is a violation of the NAP",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501352279 135446784,135450684,2017-07-29 18:18:52,">>135450560 This doesn't answer either of my questions. Liberty is not even mentioned in the quote.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501352332 135446784,135450725,2017-07-29 18:19:14,">>135447468 >libertarian >against weed",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501352354 135446784,135450747,2017-07-29 18:19:30,">>135450590 I'm not for open borders, but by what logic do you derive it violates the NAP? I can't see how it does, at least not per se.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501352370 135446784,135450806,2017-07-29 18:20:09,">>135450473 I advocate for libertarianism but I don't think libertarianism implies you base your entire political views around liberty. You might advocate for liberty but it's not mutually exclusive with holding beliefs beyond dude weed lmao. Just like advocating for you to be able to drug yourself to oblivion does not mean I would like people I actually care about to do the same. There's practical grounds and there's principle. For me libertarian is not just the most moral ideology, it's also the one with the best outcome. I responded to your question ignoring the straw-man part of it.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501352409 135446784,135450838,2017-07-29 18:20:27,>>135449580,,Anonymous,fuedalism.jpg,JG74n8/0UBO4oj0j2PyIOw==,,,1501352427 135446784,135450862,2017-07-29 18:20:41,">>135450584 yes and I had a gun from the black market back in the day",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501352441 135446784,135450913,2017-07-29 18:21:13,">>135450248 liberty is choice and responsibility. Free will and the consequences of your actions. I want to do what I know is right, not what obama, trump, or hillary clinton thinks is right. It in essentail for our future that we make the moral choice, not having blind faith in your rulers to make the hard choices for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501352473 135446784,135450934,2017-07-29 18:21:23,">>135450498 not really mysticism, or funny for that matter. pic related is closest i have",,Anonymous,image_9.png,c+MlmuU9MOsYkqFPlKvkBA==,NL,,1501352483 135446784,135450952,2017-07-29 18:21:34,">>135450862 acceptable",,Anonymous,based_ron.png,ONq9KemJD4uFo1ZCARvqlg==,GB,,1501352494 135446784,135451031,2017-07-29 18:22:31,">>135450838 pretty good meme, feudalism is still pretty great.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501352551 135446784,135451132,2017-07-29 18:23:34,">>135450747 A country is like one massive piece of property, and illegals coming in is like me entering your house without your permission, even if i did clean you vase",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501352614 135446784,135451206,2017-07-29 18:24:41,">>135450747 But my argument depnds on wether tresspassing on private property violates the NAP, which I am pretty sure its a large part of the NAP",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501352681 135446784,135451261,2017-07-29 18:25:11,"Is Unreal Tournament /ourgame/ ? It's pretty much ancap. Huge transplanetary corporations pitting people each other to die to the enjoyment of the crowds.",,Anonymous,Unreal_Tournament_2004_Coverart.png,wWNog6mUHXk4eorJ0xlJHA==,GR,,1501352711 135446784,135451268,2017-07-29 18:25:17,">>135451132 >>135451206 Trespassing is aggression, but how is a country 'like one massive piece of property'? According to the homesteading principle.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501352717 135446784,135451282,2017-07-29 18:25:34,">>135449596 Here's a libertarian economist's take on Obamacare. https://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoodman/2017/05/18/individual-insurance-buyers-were-better-off-without-obamacare/#5582c09d6942 I would recommend looking at more of his stuff if you want to know what libertarians make of health care.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501352734 135446784,135451316,2017-07-29 18:25:58,">>135451282 Why not archive? https://archive.is/a26WX",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1501352758 135446784,135451387,2017-07-29 18:26:58,">>135448840 >no shit sherlock Thats why I have problem, you have to enforce it with a state so that you can better society with culture, people must not break from this, it has been with a people for so long to just break away from it after 100s of years would damage the country as it is built on it. to just remove it would lead that people towards degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501352818 135446784,135451511,2017-07-29 18:28:18,">>135451268 Even though government is not legitimate, they are useful, and you could say that government is like a protector of you land which you were forced to employ",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501352898 135446784,135451637,2017-07-29 18:29:43,">>135451511 >They are useful I disagree.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501352983 135446784,135451683,2017-07-29 18:30:11,">>135449446 >all countries that take this tiny piece of an economy will lead to destruction no matter what else is added with it wew lad",,Anonymous,,,,,1501353011 135446784,135451709,2017-07-29 18:30:27,">>135451387 Democracy and the state is what is removing this culture. Total abandonment of the social institutions that create culture (family, church, community) because the state has taken the role of all of them and eliminates any interaction necessity. What we propose perpetuates culture by decentralizing and by enforcing newcomers to adapt to the culture of the place they're coming to with the help of contracts.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501353027 135446784,135451766,2017-07-29 18:31:01,">>135451637 I think Anfash is good when you have a degenerate country which is divided",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501353061 135446784,135451811,2017-07-29 18:31:28,">>135450806 Okay I'll grant you that being a libertarian doesn't mean you have to base your whole political positions around liberty. However, you still haven't answered my questions. I asked you to define liberty and explain why it is important. Your newest post let me know that you consider libertarianism to be the most moral ideology and the one with the best practical outcome. Am I to understand that as you saying that an ideology that upholds liberty the most is the most moral? Okay. But that still doesn't answer what liberty is or why it is important. You say it is moral to uphold it but what is it, and why is it moral to uphold it? >>135450913 >liberty is choice and responsibility. Free will and the consequences of your actions. Okay so you define liberty as having the ability to make free choices and having responsibility for your actions and the consequences of your actions. >I want to do what I know is right, not what obama, trump, or hillary clinton thinks is right. >It in essentail for our future that we make the moral choice, not having blind faith in your rulers to make the hard choices for you. Okay so if I understand you correctly liberty is important to you because it allows you to make what you consider to be the most moral choices. This means that the importance of liberty to you is secondary to the importance you place on making moral choices. I would need to you explain why you believe there are moral choices to be made before I could agree with you that it is important to allow people the freedom to make moral choices.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353088 135446784,135451832,2017-07-29 18:31:39,">>135451031 Not as good as Natsoc, Sure maybe it worked, but I'd rather live in a fair system rather than one that extorts a chunk of their own people to benefit those of higher classes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501353099 135446784,135451975,2017-07-29 18:33:08,">>135451268 The states property is illegitimate, it has attained and enforced public property with our tax dollars. It belongs to the property owners, excluding some people from that public property is a much smaller aggression than allowing every man woman and child to enter land that belongs to us, as well as force us to pay for their welfare healthcare schooling have you read our watched any of the stuff in this post? you should. >>135447496",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353188 135446784,135452008,2017-07-29 18:33:32,">>135446784 What's the problem with degeneracy ? Allowing all kind of degeneracy in ancapistan would father social darwinism and provoke the death of hundreds of thousands of unfit people, beginning with niggers",,Anonymous,cdcwonder2016_4.jpg,n5POIKuhdbbMhLW4HhUfLw==,FR,,1501353212 135446784,135452078,2017-07-29 18:34:18,">>135452008 adding more degenerates does not help remove degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353258 135446784,135452123,2017-07-29 18:34:48,">>135449330 Most overused and annoying meme in these threads. I can tolerate pretty much anything, but it still makes me cringe every time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501353288 135446784,135452245,2017-07-29 18:36:18,Could someone explain the difference between libertarian right and libertarian left to me please?,,Anonymous,3cb3b58af80a8950de1612091895d0ba.jpg,PLO1ivgKiVDeFhIJGJXQug==,,,1501353378 135446784,135452271,2017-07-29 18:36:36,">>135451811 okay, so liberty is the ability to engage in any life project you might have within your reach without violent interference from other people. Liberty is important because without it the conflict between humans is perpetual, liberty is important because a lack of liberty is the recognition that violence is an acceptable method to obtain our goals, so negating liberty ultimately leads to negating civilization.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501353396 135446784,135452402,2017-07-29 18:38:16,">>135451683 Free trade and Market-based economies are almost universally accepted by economists for powerful reasons. In economics, strength is flexibility. The nation has to be able to accommodate people's changing demands. The best way to do this is more specialization. Protectionism does precisely the opposite; leading to capital outflows and overpriced goods.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353496 135446784,135452430,2017-07-29 18:38:36,">>135452245 At its core, the conflict between libertarian left and right is the belief (or lack of belief) in egalitarianism.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501353516 135446784,135452467,2017-07-29 18:38:55,">>135451975 >what is common property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353535 135446784,135452479,2017-07-29 18:39:07,">>135452078 It does. It would reduce the nigger population by 4 or 5 times in one generation",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1501353547 135446784,135452495,2017-07-29 18:39:21,">>135451811 Its important to make moral choices because the fate of humanity depends on it. Do you want to live in a world of decay and sadness? Making the right choices gets the right results. It should be obvious why it is important to be moral.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353561 135446784,135452515,2017-07-29 18:39:33,">>135452245 libertarian right are more indivualistic and care about property rights",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501353573 135446784,135452595,2017-07-29 18:40:19,">>135452467 illegitimate land funded by state coercion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353619 135446784,135452622,2017-07-29 18:40:35,">>135452245 is there a libertarian left? Like are you talking about a government thats fiscally left and socially right or something?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353635 135446784,135452682,2017-07-29 18:41:18,">>135452430 I'm in favor of allowing the most degeneracy possible in ancapistan because I want to see niggers starving and homosexuals dying of aids before my window, does it make me a left wing libertarian ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1501353678 135446784,135452755,2017-07-29 18:41:59,">>135452622 Libertarian left is from liberals in less extreme cases and ((((noam jewsky))) in the most extreme",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501353719 135446784,135452873,2017-07-29 18:43:25,">>135451832 equal oppritunity is unfair, you get what you put in no matter where you start. you sound like a marxist, talking about ""fairness"" wanting a fucking handout. Get a job",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353805 135446784,135452876,2017-07-29 18:43:25,">>135452595 Commons were a major part of peasant society before the industrial revolution caused coercive land enclosure. Your ideas are backward.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353805 135446784,135452993,2017-07-29 18:44:51,">>135452755 So does Chomsky think that people can really own the means of production like the meme says? And how is this even libertarian? Obviously a strong government is necessary if you hold these views.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353891 135446784,135452998,2017-07-29 18:44:54,">>135451709 >Democracy and the state is what is removing this culture. Only because when 2 cultures co exist one will eventually out breed the other, and it will disappear, we need a state that keeps out those that aren't of our people, the state didn't replace church, overtime religion started to die and then state had to fill the role of charity. We need a state that instills these nationalist values so that the people don't have to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501353894 135446784,135453044,2017-07-29 18:45:23,">>135452682 Would you force people to assume the costs of said degeneracy of force them to live among degenerates? If the answer is no, then you're a right libertarian. Like, I have a problem with child prostitution, and therefore I don't live in Nepal, I don't want to bomb them, I want to convince them, but ultimately what I really want is to completely dissociate from them, not have to support their externalities and not have to see with my own eyes this degeneracy. Same goes with anarcho capitalism, the only ideology that would actually allow me to make sure cities of degenerates become as ""alien"" as Nepal is to me currently.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501353923 135446784,135453160,2017-07-29 18:46:37,">>135452755 How can a Palestinian hate Noam Chomsky? He practically licks the PLO's butthole.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501353997 135446784,135453295,2017-07-29 18:48:00,"A hereditary oligarchy would be the superior system. That most of us wouldn't have to worry about political issues, as it would be out of our control. I would however still leave the economic system as being capitalistic.",,Anonymous,question7.jpg,4ZYGTq1ArwyhiOE+jh+4fQ==,US,,1501354080 135446784,135453323,2017-07-29 18:48:21,">>135452873 >equal opportunity is unfair >the ability to voluntarily choose what you want is unfair >marxist wew lad Id rather have that than forced equal outcome, like a some commie state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501354101 135446784,135453380,2017-07-29 18:49:04,">>135452271 >okay, so liberty is the ability to engage in any life project you might have within your reach without violent interference from other people. Alright this answers my first question, but how do you define violent interference? >Liberty is important because without it the conflict between humans is perpetual, liberty is important because a lack of liberty is the recognition that violence is an acceptable method to obtain our goals, so negating liberty ultimately leads to negating civilization. Okay so you consider liberty to be the key to ending perpetual conflict between humans and those that do not recognize this essentially are saying that violent interference is acceptable. Even though you did not mention morality in this post you did in your last one so I will try to understand what you said in a moral way. If I understand you correctly you are saying that violent interference is both immoral and impractical because you recognize violence as unacceptable/immoral and because conflict between humans is not practical for a functioning civilization. As I said above, can you define violent interference? And also can you explain why it is immoral to be violent towards others? I'll leave the questions about it being practical aside because as I said I'm interested in why people support libertarianism in principle not for practical reasons. >>135452495 I don't think you understood me correctly. I wasn't asking why it is important for people to make moral choices. I am asking why you believe there is such a thing as making moral choices? Why do you think there is a moral and immoral way to behave?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501354144 135446784,135453484,2017-07-29 18:50:12,">>135453044 Ofc not, a person should have the right to ban anyone from his property (including entreprise) on any criteria. You should be able to make a sign ""Jews and niggers that enter this area will be shot dead"" etc Actually I'm social conservative in my own life but degeneracy in ancapistan wouldn't bother me as it would father many deaths",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1501354212 135446784,135453496,2017-07-29 18:50:21,">>135453323 >the ability to voluntarily choose what you want is unfair you don't just choose, you want to force others to chip in or get locked up or killed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501354221 135446784,135453545,2017-07-29 18:50:57,">>135452998 Coexistance of culture is countered in anarcho capitalism through segregation and mantained through private property and contracts. Think about it, give it a day of thought, think what would happen if we got rid of the state. People would need security and rules, therefore they would start going to private cities that provided this. Eventually the market would offer niche rules such as ethnically based communities or culture/religious based ones, this would lead to some communities being prosperous, people wanting to economically migrate to them, but this time these communities will have a way to prevent this economical migration to destroy them from within, and that is contracts. People will be forced to accept said contracts if they want a ""piece of the cake"" from the prosperous communities. And these contracts will make them renounce to any belief they held that was against the culture of the community. They will be physically removed if they break these contracts.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501354257 135446784,135453563,2017-07-29 18:51:04,">>135452993 Basically this is what jewsky believes: step 1: revolt step 2: ?????????? step 3: no land no money no private stuff, everyone shares everything and is happy",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501354264 135446784,135453654,2017-07-29 18:52:08,">>135453160 che guevara also liked palestine, and so do all the liberals in the us. They can fuck off i don't care if they support us",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501354328 135446784,135453722,2017-07-29 18:53:01,">>135448246 This post gave me stage IV cancer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501354381 135446784,135453764,2017-07-29 18:53:26,,,Anonymous,helitime.jpg,oWU9KY1krpmj3FzbriOlXQ==,,,1501354406 135446784,135453995,2017-07-29 18:56:23,">>135453380 >Why do you think there is a moral and immoral way to behave? It's consequentialism, ""karma"" if you will. You make good choices you get good results. If you work and stay healthy you and your family prosper. if you're a faggot and smoke drugs and suck dicks you get sick, infect other people and die. it has nothing to do with religion it is just natural law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501354583 135446784,135454067,2017-07-29 18:57:16,">>135452271 Libertarian left is more or less socialism and communism in its ideal effect. I see it as pure equality vs equal oppurtunity. The believes total equality is needed, the right believes that equal oppurtunity is needed.",,Bobby O,,,,,1501354636 135446784,135454186,2017-07-29 18:58:41,">>135454067 Thats only centrist left libertarian",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501354721 135446784,135454207,2017-07-29 18:59:01,">>135452622 >>135454067 Sorry, responded to the wrong post. To clarify more, as a true libertarian I believe that total equality is forced equality and that it destroys competition and therefore effectiveness",,Bobby O,,,,,1501354741 135446784,135455189,2017-07-29 19:10:06,Bump,,Anonymous,10ed.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,US,,1501355406 135446784,135455304,2017-07-29 19:11:21,">>135446784 what do you think about the freidman?",,Anonymous,,,PS,,1501355481 135446784,135455881,2017-07-29 19:17:46,">>135453995 If I understand you correctly you are saying that people in a society value certain behaviors over others so that means there are certain behaviors which are more practical for you to make if you want to have beneficial results for yourself in the future. I completely agree with this but I do not see how this has anything to do with morality. Everyone knows that there are certain behaviors you have to carry out if you want to succeed in society. However, you are claiming that since society values them that means that they are moral behaviors and that people ought to carry out those behaviors too so they can be successful. However, how you make the leap from ""society says its good"" to ""you ought to do it"" has not been explained.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501355866 135446784,135456596,2017-07-29 19:25:20,Libertarians work in banks?,,Anonymous,,,,,1501356320 135446784,135456769,2017-07-29 19:27:06,">>135455881 you understand correctly, and it has everything to do with morality. Are you sure you understand the concept of right and wrong? You seem like someone who actually cares to know. If you're willing to take the trip watch this. its long as hell but it explains clearly morality, right and wrong, natural law, and has a lot to do with libertarianism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E I'm not just dismissing you if you have any questions keep at it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501356426 135446784,135457580,2017-07-29 19:36:07,">>135450044 >fascism prizes real freedom, the freedom to do what the state tells you is right ftfy",,Anonymous,,,,,1501356967 135446784,135457780,2017-07-29 19:38:20,">>135450934 >""According to rumor, Mussolini was afraid of Evola's magical powers"" Fascist mysticism is /x/-tier retardation. Fuck off >>>/x/",,Anonymous,,,,,1501357100 135446784,135457950,2017-07-29 19:40:03,">>135452245 Property rights",,Anonymous,,,,,1501357203 135446784,135458353,2017-07-29 19:44:25,">>135456596 Or libertarians cant work in a bank?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501357465 135446784,135458457,2017-07-29 19:45:16,">>135456769 >9 hour longer video Can tell me about the major relevant points in the video so we can discuss it in a timely manner. I'm not dismissing the video without watching it I just think it would be more appropriate for you to tell me about it before I watch so that we can carry on with the discussion. As I said in my last post I'm interested to know why you are connecting the practical to the moral. I think I should clarify one more thing. When I say ""the practical"" I mean successfully achieving that which one deems valuable. It seems like what you deem valuable is in line with what society deems valuable so you are fine with performing the necessary behaviors that would help you achieve that in your given society. >Are you sure you understand the concept of right and wrong? Again, I'd like you to tell me the relevant points in the video that you think would help me understand your position more. It seems like you are claiming that what society (and you) deem valuable are actually/objectively valuable and not just your opinion. From this it seems like you say that the behaviors which will help you achieve what is valuable are good or morally right behaviors and that behaviors which hurt your chances of achieving what is valuable are bad or morally wrong behaviors. If this is correct then I would need you to justify/explain why what you deem valuable is actually valuable and not just your opinion. I'm saying that because it appears like you are basing right and wrong off your opinion of what is desirable and not (since you haven't explained why it is anything more than your opinion yet).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501357516 135446784,135459902,2017-07-29 20:02:03,">>135458457 the ""practical"" and ""moral"" are the same thing. they were never seperate, but you must understand what truly is practical.",,Anonymous,141.jpg,bHyIlM5EwLX4HY08ol0sgg==,US,,1501358523 135446784,135459925,2017-07-29 20:02:16,,,Anonymous,images.duckduckgo.com_54.jpg,OGjq/QG4ZFYsMj+1diO1Rw==,US,,1501358536 135446784,135460223,2017-07-29 20:05:47,">>135459902 >>135459925 This doesn't really help with the questions I have. I'd appreciate if you could respond to the specific things I said.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501358747 135446784,135461844,2017-07-29 20:25:19,">>135460223 Morality has nothing to do with mysticism or religion. Moral actions have only positive consequences. Not just For you but for everyone effected by your actions. I can't encapsulate it much more than that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501359919 135446784,135463247,2017-07-29 20:42:09,">>135451316 Marry me",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Quote_BW_5.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,US,,1501360929 135446784,135464013,2017-07-29 20:50:31,"With a NAP in place would I be held accountable if I killed some niggers that commited a crime prior to the existance of the NAP, even if I have evidence? I caught a pack of them stealing bikes from my neighborhood on my secruity cams 2weeks back. Today, the police tacked down some of them, but all the niggers did was return the bikes with a slap on the wrist. Fucking tired of people giving these monkeys a pass, it's not the first time they've done this. Does the NAP work retroactively for past crimes committed?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501361431 135553132,135553132,2017-07-30 16:13:56,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,file.png,Km6P3ggG3T7KT44zWrN8Zg==,GB,,1501431236 135553132,135553323,2017-07-30 16:15:55,First for Libertarian Monarchism,,Anonymous,RoyalLibertarianism.png,Mlzh1nmetE1PePu7WKsgJA==,US,,1501431355 135553132,135553414,2017-07-30 16:16:53,Thoughts on Chicago school of economics? Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501431413 135553132,135554150,2017-07-30 16:24:32,">>135553414 Chicago school is evil; it is good on surface, but with its flawed foundations (i.e bad epistemology) you can justify anything. They used it to justify free markets, but the left can use it to justify socialism. Mises allegedly said that the two most dangerous men in the US were Paul Samuelson and Milton Friedman; Friedman because he seemed to be pro-free market. Ayn Rand hated him too for similar reasons. Best is watching Hoppe's lecture the Hayek Myth, he talks about Friedman shortly, but still what he says about Hayek applies to Friedman similarly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501431872 135553132,135554483,2017-07-30 16:28:10,,,Anonymous,file.png,FD4bdCoXOFVBhKaGmzixPQ==,GB,,1501432090 135553132,135554815,2017-07-30 16:31:20,,,Anonymous,file.png,MpJ4r8FOefLeInlhzzNJPA==,GB,,1501432280 135553132,135555350,2017-07-30 16:36:53,"Lots of commies in this thread. Help make /his/ not retarded again. >>>his/3159324",,Anonymous,,,,,1501432613 135553132,135555406,2017-07-30 16:37:19,">>135555350 >>>/his/3159324",,Anonymous,,,,,1501432639 135553132,135555780,2017-07-30 16:41:16,">>135553414 Sowell is a bro, but not as an economist (in the strict sense), but rather for his political/socio writings. Similarly, Julian Simon is awesome. They however made the mistake of not jumping the train or being ignorant to the Austrian school",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501432876 135553132,135555825,2017-07-30 16:41:44,Was good my brothers,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1501432904 135553132,135556069,2017-07-30 16:44:08,What do you guys think of my OC?,,Anonymous,rothbard.png,Slvg8cK8i7GW2tSPMlIh0Q==,,,1501433048 135553132,135556077,2017-07-30 16:44:19,,,Anonymous,1482709108988.jpg,oXu9j2MatcdU+8uZnKxvCA==,US,,1501433059 135553132,135556125,2017-07-30 16:44:40,">>135555350 >>135555406 Historians are almost always leftists. Better just leave them to their containment zone.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501433080 135553132,135556255,2017-07-30 16:46:09,,,Anonymous,1500846504418m.jpg,HhobU00CfjXpuE9AdlgNDA==,US,,1501433169 135553132,135556340,2017-07-30 16:47:01,">>135556069 Pcool what's the quote from?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501433221 135553132,135556440,2017-07-30 16:48:04,">>135556340 https://mises.org/library/review-origins-second-world-war",,Anonymous,,,,,1501433284 135553132,135556581,2017-07-30 16:49:40,">>135556440 Thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501433380 135553132,135557110,2017-07-30 16:54:38,">>135553132 >>135556069 Just realized this might make a good /lrg/ thread image if we want to reach natsocs. Just an idea to the next baker.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501433678 135553132,135557573,2017-07-30 16:59:26,">>135557110 I found they react well when we criticize our current leftist anti white states. They'd be fine with libertarianism if it's challenging the current egalitarian states and promoting white succession.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501433966 135553132,135557812,2017-07-30 17:01:57,"Ayaooo wassup Very happy that Maltabro said Hoppe likes our memes.",,Anonymous,lrg vs lp.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,PT,,1501434117 135553132,135557845,2017-07-30 17:02:19,">>135557110 I don't want to reach NeetSocs, honestly.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501434139 135553132,135558367,2017-07-30 17:07:41,">>135557812 I caught him yesterday. He showed a few pics too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501434461 135553132,135558668,2017-07-30 17:10:28,">>135557845 Some of them are alright, but I'd rather surpass them. And I think we'll win in the long run anyway. The real opponent we have to worry about is the far left anti capitalist and anti nationalist fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501434628 135553132,135558733,2017-07-30 17:11:04,">>135558367 Like what? Also, Maltabro mentioned he had hopes in Trump, but apparently he's just another Deep State shill...",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501434664 135553132,135558742,2017-07-30 17:11:10,">>135557573 There should be more emphasis on anti-egalitarian and racialist tendencies. We're not r/anarchocapitalism. >>135557845 Leftypol likes to come in and sow division between us, so that's one reason. Natsocs need to have more confidence in libertarian goals so that they can boost our political numbers. The future of the libertarian party will be 50% young cryptofascists, and they need to know their interests align close enough with ours if we expect them to toe the party line.",,Anonymous,Egalitarianism_Rothbard.jpg,7oXJeDcQgZsgjb/SACvFMA==,,,1501434670 135553132,135559172,2017-07-30 17:15:06,">>135558742 National socialism is an insane ideology. Sure they agree with us on anti-egalitarianism, but they're a group of people who idolise war and murder, and they hold the state as it's own end. It's important to remember how different they really are from us. (Anyway, it's not as if we wanting a bunch of /pol/ LARPers associated with libertarianism)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501434906 135553132,135559197,2017-07-30 17:15:24,">>135558733 Just pics from where he was sitting, nothing amazing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501434924 135553132,135559203,2017-07-30 17:15:26,">>135557812 Did he say this in discord? I stay away from discord, but if there's juicy stuff like this, maybe I should join.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501434926 135553132,135559335,2017-07-30 17:16:53,">>135559172 I agree with Britbro on this one. They don't give two shits on whether or not their ideology is based on a universal human value (self-ownership and property rights), they simply think of themselves as the ""superiors"" who get to rule over the rest of those who refuse to fall in line. They'd stab us in the back.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501435013 135553132,135559501,2017-07-30 17:18:39,">>135559197 Oh, my bad, I thought you meant Hoppe showed you pictures of memes he had on his phone. >>135559203 It's in the archives. https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/135446784/",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501435119 135553132,135559551,2017-07-30 17:19:13,">>135558742 Damn right, that's what sets /lrg/ from the rest. We don't cuck or pc >>135559203 The discord is pretty fun. Malta doesn't show up often but we plan shenanigans and talk shop that we don't want the public to see.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501435153 135553132,135559926,2017-07-30 17:23:09,">>135559335 >>135559172 I used to be sympathetic, but the more I learned about them the more I hated their guts. We shouldn't pander to them. But we definitely should not avoid or counter signal the things we have in common. Anti egalitarianism, race realism, traditionalism and conservatism should be shouted loud, but make it clear it's not for the NatSoc that we bring it up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501435389 135553132,135560269,2017-07-30 17:26:33,">>135559172 >>135559335 Natsocs just need an excuse to go libertarian, but believe it's not pragmatic. They ARE larpers. It's undeniably the most expedient position for someone who believes there's no free market way to preserve the white race and end jewish oligarchy. This is their only hang up with ancapism. I just think we should take measures to address their reservations, and you'll start to see them open up to non-retarded economics. At the very least, we can coexist with a natsoc state as long as they don't aggress and don't invade our territories to capture escapees. >>135559551 >>135559501 Neat.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501435593 135553132,135560414,2017-07-30 17:28:09,">>135560269 You should like into the mindset of national socialists. They're deluded, they will never be our allies - and thank god.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501435689 135553132,135560574,2017-07-30 17:29:50,,,Anonymous,277779.jpg,2AK/7pk/s5tTLuqeS1UqKQ==,US,,1501435790 135553132,135560805,2017-07-30 17:32:07,,,Anonymous,1484458284351.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1501435927 135553132,135561190,2017-07-30 17:36:07,">>135559501 Wow that's hilarious and amazing.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-07-30_17-35-32.png,/6lPBmDujy9xWbOB5ZxHDw==,,,1501436167 135553132,135562024,2017-07-30 17:44:52,,,Anonymous,1494279965076.png,eI5O6TirBEeoRBs5ceYQNQ==,US,,1501436692 135553132,135562100,2017-07-30 17:45:42,,,Anonymous,19437716_1604033819655007_8869932370820195295_n.png,J6hye+Y8N8XZVH/ouKQyyA==,US,,1501436742 135553132,135562961,2017-07-30 17:54:49,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1501437289 135553132,135564213,2017-07-30 18:07:40,,,Anonymous,1486790197188.jpg,OGjq/QG4ZFYsMj+1diO1Rw==,US,,1501438060 135553132,135565307,2017-07-30 18:18:49,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-22-03.58.35.png,igkH/D0N43vuCaW4s3Vqjg==,US,,1501438729 135553132,135566259,2017-07-30 18:28:36,">>135553132 High, centrist anon here. Question. How do you put downward price pressure on something that is life saving (medication,water ect). I am interested since i have yet to find someone that cangive a reason. Also how would you guys handle market pruce setting by major players/monopolies.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501439316 135553132,135566459,2017-07-30 18:30:35,Taxation is NOT theft.,,Anonymous,00.png,Y+t43EGkp4w4/Yg4ZcgpOQ==,BR,,1501439435 135553132,135566835,2017-07-30 18:34:21,"Look folks, this thread is pretty dead and I can't contribute. Maybe hit you all up later for a late night special special edition thread.",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1501439661 135553132,135567254,2017-07-30 18:38:38,">>135566459 Taxes destroy economic growth, Spaniard rape baby.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501439918 135553132,135567258,2017-07-30 18:38:39,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.23.44.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,US,,1501439919 135553132,135567625,2017-07-30 18:42:06,">>135566259 Look into austrian economics. We believe prices generally fall with no intervention, more importantly, monopolies are a product of state intervention - (generally crony-capitalist) policies that give the company an unfair advantage, freeing them from market forces - see overregulation, corporate welfare, endless subsidies...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501440126 135553132,135567691,2017-07-30 18:42:50,">>135567258 I'm a huge fan of this. Got anything else like this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501440170 135553132,135567707,2017-07-30 18:43:01,">>135566259 Competition. Look at what happened to cellphones and computers. They got magnitudes better while becoming factions of their original price.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501440181 135553132,135567809,2017-07-30 18:44:15,">>135566259 And innovation is inherently deflationary",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501440255 135553132,135568537,2017-07-30 18:51:49,">>135553132 Lolbertarians are delusional, don't know anything about human behavior. Sad!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501440709 135553132,135568778,2017-07-30 18:54:00,">>135567258 Dank, I saw your Rothbard one yesterday, keep at it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501440840 135553132,135568887,2017-07-30 18:54:58,">>135568537 >Sad! The tell tale sign of Leftypol shills.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501440898 135553132,135568891,2017-07-30 18:55:00,">>135568537 >Sad! go back to /ptg/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501440900 135553132,135569519,2017-07-30 19:01:40,">>135567691 This Rothbard one.",,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1501441300 135553132,135569761,2017-07-30 19:04:08,">>135569519 Reminds me of a few products on the mises store: http://store.mises.org/Austrian-Economists-T-Shirts-The-Full-Collection-P235.aspx http://store.mises.org/Austrian-Economists-Poster-P289.aspx",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501441448 135553132,135570751,2017-07-30 19:14:34,"I like a lot of aspects of libertarianism, but I am skeptical of private market healthcare, for a couple reasons. 1.Healthcare doesn't seem to be a very eleastic good. 2.Many developed nations have (mostly) successfully implement single-payer healthcare.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501442074 135553132,135570884,2017-07-30 19:15:58,,,Anonymous,AC Moly.png,g75xHc9GOSdnpSj03EEAhA==,CA,,1501442158 135553132,135571827,2017-07-30 19:25:13,">>135570751 Well, I heard very recently of an infant who died in the UK because the government denied him treatment, even when they raised more than enough money through charity. And there are more examples, that's just the most notable one. The U.S. system isn't perfect, but I don't think socialized healthcare is the right direction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501442713 135553132,135571873,2017-07-30 19:25:49,,,Anonymous,1501452640219.jpg,nJJyF5pJ5C1+raI+nBA6Iw==,US,,1501442749 135553132,135573882,2017-07-30 19:46:26,,,Anonymous,1500720725160.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,US,,1501443986 135553132,135574601,2017-07-30 19:53:04,,,Anonymous,B2IrCN7.gif,yehBG6ExbTdm4KBF8sqONg==,US,,1501444384 135553132,135574768,2017-07-30 19:54:51,">>135553323 Explain how that works, I'm a fan of monarchism but I'd like to see what you mean specifically by this.",,Anonymous,abdullah II.jpg,BhESlrK4zPyfzPwLr0YfAA==,,,1501444491 135553132,135574966,2017-07-30 19:57:00,"If the automation meme was real, who here would still be totally down with siding with the privatized robotic RWDS against the commies?",,Anonymous,keloid.gif,Du4tOV8LwNJZyChDc4mDxA==,,,1501444620 135553132,135575930,2017-07-30 20:07:17,">>135574768 Every monarchy leads to libertarianism of some sort. Sure it might have some tyranic leaders now and then but ultimately monarchy is the best form of goverment for liberty. Of course no goverment grants us eternal liberty. >>135574966 If I get to bathe in blood of communists I'm in.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501445237 135553132,135576221,2017-07-30 20:10:10,,,Anonymous,privatized-roads-comic.png,ygTvVsoFc0JDvgRTL94XaQ==,US,,1501445410 135553132,135579172,2017-07-30 20:40:40,,,Anonymous,bake_that_cake.png,5veZO4dkaYvo1XZb31sSsQ==,GB,,1501447240 135553132,135579567,2017-07-30 20:44:14,">>135574768 If you'd like to read or watch a lecture on libertarian monarchism here are the links: https://mises.org/library/libertarian-case-monarchy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuL6T5Dc2LI",,Anonymous,1459654270789.jpg,gHcT30Zl0NxQsvLHn9S1GA==,,,1501447454 135553132,135579871,2017-07-30 20:47:23,">>135579172 Only the best. Gary Johnson reading list. Anyways wether this thread dies or not I'm making a real libertarian hours edition in Just a bit. Be there or be a total faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501447643 135553132,135580088,2017-07-30 20:49:24,">>135574768 I think this song best sums up the libertarian case for monarchism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ Keep in mind that Hoppe does not mean to say monarchism is the supreme system of governance in the libertarian view, but that it is superior to democracy.",,Anonymous,End Democracy.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1501447764 135553132,135580916,2017-07-30 20:57:56,">>135580088 I'd rather have a monkey make every decision, or a coin flip than democracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501448276 135553132,135581136,2017-07-30 21:00:01,">>135580088 I acidentally set this to 1.25x speed; makes it super aesthetic.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501448401 135589891,135589891,2017-07-30 22:11:12,">brought to you by special guest OP Lew Rockwell, AMA! This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LATE NIGHT WITH LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,LewPosting.png,MH9a10SsvtSDQR9TuCqjEg==,US,,1501452672 135589891,135589958,2017-07-30 22:11:42,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1501452702 135589891,135590249,2017-07-30 22:14:10,Minarchst here,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501452850 135589891,135590511,2017-07-30 22:16:27,"""i don't like retarded regulations"" here",,Anonymous,mTLUYC7.gif,vsfi2J0kXMHrmZymXzozAw==,,,1501452987 135589891,135590607,2017-07-30 22:17:20,First edgy propaganda then memes. Im posting everything tonight niBBa.,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1501453040 135589891,135590781,2017-07-30 22:18:52,State enforced morality is a fucking contradiction. if you believe in this shit you're a fucking moron!,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1501453132 135589891,135590934,2017-07-30 22:20:18,,,Anonymous,Hoppe Jojo.png,ApVmsBijLAoa+GyahzXVBg==,,,1501453218 135589891,135591063,2017-07-30 22:21:35,">muh you cant remove peaceful commies, thats a NAP violation! FASCIST!",,Anonymous,Commies (1).jpg,yL1qw3koHy3lpzfz0QPPhw==,US,,1501453295 135589891,135591086,2017-07-30 22:21:50,">>135591063 No such thing, FUCK COMMIES.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1501453310 135589891,135591230,2017-07-30 22:22:58,"Fuck libertine subversives too, basically libertarian proto-communists.",,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,US,,1501453378 135589891,135591352,2017-07-30 22:24:03,"Totalitarians of any kind, National Socialists, NazBols or StrasserFags can never be considered true “right-wingers”, traditionalist, or promoters of a natural order.",,Anonymous,ORDER.png,6rFDv6/FV6AEc0JJOOJR+w==,US,,1501453443 135589891,135591441,2017-07-30 22:24:51,>>135590249,,Anonymous,The_General.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1501453491 135589891,135591760,2017-07-30 22:27:38,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1501453658 135589891,135591781,2017-07-30 22:27:48,">>135591230 This guy is an an-cap tho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501453668 135589891,135591955,2017-07-30 22:29:28,Feels good to feel at home.,,Anonymous,Ancap_11.jpg,TkjCxq3qluZeq3cYMQxEhw==,US,,1501453768 135589891,135591968,2017-07-30 22:29:36,">>135591781 Yeah, and so is Jeffery ""safe space"" Tucker. they're a cancer that has to be removed. The're indistinguishable from leftists.",,Anonymous,FUCK_REDDIT.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,US,,1501453776 135589891,135592006,2017-07-30 22:29:53,,,Anonymous,1486790197188.jpg,OGjq/QG4ZFYsMj+1diO1Rw==,US,,1501453793 135589891,135592053,2017-07-30 22:30:18,">>135591955 Welcome Home",,Anonymous,1493143601662.jpg,J/uOowPwYBLTiKnkednz/g==,US,,1501453818 135589891,135592084,2017-07-30 22:30:38,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1501453838 135589891,135592156,2017-07-30 22:31:13,lel,,Anonymous,No_Roads.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,US,,1501453873 135589891,135592225,2017-07-30 22:32:05,>did I tell you about thos non agressive commies? they're real.,,Anonymous,Commies (2).jpg,60mmAahICu+QRdjBXMIZlQ==,US,,1501453925 135589891,135592405,2017-07-30 22:34:08,"Have you guys seen my website? I'm the mother fucking chairman of the mises institute! >The Irrepressible Rothbard | RIGHT-WING POPULISM | Murray N. Rothbard https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html",,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1501454048 135589891,135592581,2017-07-30 22:35:51,,,Anonymous,15822754_1218647601536890_2379209963733124138_n.png.jpg,mA9FYLalbhO+OiQJQKy6MQ==,US,,1501454151 135589891,135592659,2017-07-30 22:36:45,">>135592225 No such thing as a peaceful commie and no such thing as a good willing socialist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501454205 135589891,135592752,2017-07-30 22:37:48,">>135592053 I feel the kekistani and Swastika should switch places. The National Socialists are far smarter than the kekistani Alt-Light",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501454268 135589891,135592916,2017-07-30 22:39:31,">>135592752 I definitely would swap the kekistanis out of that place, but I like where the nat-socs are. Some of them are intelligent and some are complete morons.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501454371 135589891,135592983,2017-07-30 22:40:07,">>135592752 I unironically think Gavin McCuck is smarter than the top NatSoc on /pol/. Even if they can't say anything that might be a considered a hate crime in cuckanada.",,Anonymous,1490140529536.jpg,aThGpkXG8xi+q76M+EbJ8A==,US,,1501454407 135589891,135593031,2017-07-30 22:40:41,,,Anonymous,AnCap_Landlord.png,lv6tF0xgYlGukqt4Xyg3iA==,US,,1501454441 135589891,135593161,2017-07-30 22:42:24,">>135593031 PLUMBERS? WHAT IS THIS XENOPOHIBA? MY FREEDOM TO AN APARTMENT? GOVERMENT HELP!",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501454544 135589891,135593179,2017-07-30 22:42:37,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1501454557 135589891,135593181,2017-07-30 22:42:38,"Yall niggas think you're safe and secure with your socialist state built roads, but while you're at work that road is fucking your wife. Feel smart now?",,Anonymous,roadcuckpporn.png,FMDYd+igLazbXQA6GkNpSg==,US,,1501454558 135589891,135593294,2017-07-30 22:43:48,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.23.44.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,US,,1501454628 135589891,135593301,2017-07-30 22:43:53,>>135591781,,Anonymous,Ancap.png,ekRLw3QrrHBNxuqdBs+hEA==,US,,1501454633 135589891,135593454,2017-07-30 22:45:40,">>135593294 >>135593179 great shit, do a H O P P E tho.",,Anonymous,7e292b9b2c07e83cb1626f3eaff6bfb45066cb5ee3ef5c765ef1d9107bf5df03.jpg,pEgr2mcLJaMPJU5Jth4A4g==,US,,1501454740 135589891,135593540,2017-07-30 22:46:31,,,Anonymous,19366366_241430413013491_5474478553050382058_n.jpg,z5QIQJwdLABPQ/5YCJG0nA==,US,,1501454791 135589891,135593692,2017-07-30 22:47:53,"I need a caption, I lost slovakia's mudslime ball memes.",,Anonymous,muh_168.png,m9MOxJ+No7+d8LWFHzqNpA==,US,,1501454873 135589891,135593763,2017-07-30 22:48:31,"I read 'road to serfdom' and thought I would slide some Karl Marx in before jumping to Friedman... To understand the opposition. Capital Now I want to neck myself. :(",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501454911 135589891,135593825,2017-07-30 22:49:11,also r8,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1501454951 135589891,135594069,2017-07-30 22:51:34,"If I contribute, would someone answer my questions about libertarianism seriously?",,Anonymous,1501138163263.jpg,cMPxRne20ZoQSYi1Vwd2kw==,,,1501455094 135589891,135594093,2017-07-30 22:51:53,,,Anonymous,1498359894485.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1501455113 135589891,135594185,2017-07-30 22:52:58,">>135593763 you don't really wanna read marx. even if you're trying to ""understand the opposition"" you're better off learning about the modern left and you can learn what you need to know from youtube debate and news videos. we're not really up against classical marxists anymore. you're better off reardng leftist strategists if you actually want to oppose them in a real way. >>135594069 maybe, I'll try not to be a dick.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501455178 135589891,135594229,2017-07-30 22:53:23,">>135593825 That is actually the best, you should have this on the top left of the flag though",,Anonymous,tumblr_m80gvzlwmX1qgklg6o1_500.png,D0j0SwikguTFh+/GjBua5A==,CA,,1501455203 135589891,135594265,2017-07-30 22:53:52,">>135593454 Okay, but there already is a lot of great Hoppe aesthetic out there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501455232 135589891,135594405,2017-07-30 22:55:11,">>135594069 also that meme is shit, 'cause you guys don't understand enforcing cultural values without the state. >>135594229 ehh, I hate that lame symbol.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501455311 135589891,135594490,2017-07-30 22:56:00,">>135594185 How can you control inevitable hyperinflation of road fees? How can this system not turn into a turbomaterialistic, consumerist, degenerate shithole in a decade?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501455360 135589891,135594516,2017-07-30 22:56:17,"Really makes you think >>135499141 >>135499141 >>135499141",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501455377 135589891,135594644,2017-07-30 22:57:45,">>135594265 I guess you're right. Do one of me instead, heres my selfie. I don't get enough love.",,Anonymous,Lewposting.jpg,uddMsf/u7NcLyyLphf3F5g==,US,,1501455465 135589891,135594706,2017-07-30 22:58:19,">>135594490 >Inevitable hyperinflation of road fees What is the free market? >Using ""consumerism"" as an argument ""Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios."" If you want a serious debate first you have to declare definitions of the terms you write about.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501455499 135589891,135594761,2017-07-30 22:58:52,">>135594069 Weak government is self defeating. Post modernity will only bring NatSox. It's only ever been damage control",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501455532 135589891,135595005,2017-07-30 23:01:20,">>135594706 >Using ""consumerism"" as an argument Are you even serious? You are on /pol/. and this is a non-argument to you? Rope yourself degenerate. >>135594069 >>135594405 I posted that image because it was entertaining. Not to imply that AnCap/Libfaggotry is a stepping stone before NatSoc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501455680 135589891,135595186,2017-07-30 23:03:14,">>135595005 Define consumerism you maggot or get the fuck out. You are not worthy of any debate of any sort if you rush in here and act like a precious snowflake.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501455794 135589891,135595283,2017-07-30 23:04:06,">>135594490 >How can this system not turn into a turbomaterialistic, consumerist, degenerate shithole in a decade? How is providing everything for your people through welfare and holding their hand through life so they dont evolve, and then having to sterilize all the retards and fags you've created not degenerate? See this >>135590781 fucking pleb.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501455846 135589891,135595426,2017-07-30 23:05:54,">>135594490 Personally I think over-consumerism is an issue created by large monopolistic corporations with massive advertising budgets and outlets worldwide. In a libertarian social order, you're getting small, local produce most of the time, small business that is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501455954 135589891,135595511,2017-07-30 23:06:50,">>135595005 National Socialism is a fucking laugh. Left wing parasitism parading itself around as ""the most right wing ideology"" gass yourself o wait, you never gassed anyone amiright?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501456010 135589891,135595606,2017-07-30 23:07:44,">>135594185 The modern marxist agenda is predictable, yet still gaining. I want to sink my dagger in to the flesh of this unholy beast. I'm salivating for amunition.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501456064 135589891,135595639,2017-07-30 23:08:04,">>135595426 I think that consumerism isn't even a degenerate issue, it just gets degenerate because there was already degeneracy in the first place to capitalise on. Consumerism is stupid, I can agree on that, but inherently degenerate? Buying a new Iphone every year is stupid, yes, but degenerate?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501456084 135589891,135595646,2017-07-30 23:08:09,CRINGE.,,Anonymous,tumblr_oqkgdaSEZZ1qzsnxyo1_500.jpg,OGLGtTCMHUTDk3r/1naAsw==,US,,1501456089 135589891,135595677,2017-07-30 23:08:36,">>135593692 H-Here I go",,Anonymous,osamancap.png,Yl4w1tH0enXOfROkuwU02A==,US,,1501456116 135589891,135595790,2017-07-30 23:09:45,">>135592053 >slave mindset >having high IQ chose one",,Anonymous,,,,,1501456185 135589891,135595803,2017-07-30 23:10:02,">>135595606 If you really must, you should probably read leninists and tankies, more practical. labor value theory is total bullshit they can't defend.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501456202 135589891,135595999,2017-07-30 23:12:15,">>135595186 My country blocks wiki, so here is what google gives me. >Consumerism is a social and economic order and ideology that encourages the acquisition of goods and services in ever-increasing amounts. I still advise you to neck yourself, degenerate. >>135595283 >people through welfare and holding their hand through life so they dont evolve >nd then having to sterilize all the retards and fags you've created not degenerate? Okay fags, I'm literally just asking. Not up to debate, nor do I have any desire to counter your arguments. You lefties get defensive very quickly. >>135595426 > large monopolistic corporations But isn't that a byproduct of global economy which means no nation can enforce a closed market of its won? Which always seems like something libertarian, at least to me. Explain please.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501456335 135589891,135596028,2017-07-30 23:12:39,">>135594069 nice try subverter, nice try A libertarian never align with a socialist, you are trying to argue that libertarians are ok with 70~80% income tax e huge bureaucratization of the relation of the means of production",,Anonymous,,,,,1501456359 135589891,135596170,2017-07-30 23:14:14,">>135595999 How is buying more things degenerate? You sound like a fucking communist.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501456454 135589891,135596313,2017-07-30 23:15:48,">>135596170 Consumerism is consuming for no other purpose than consuming, without carrying about quality or w/e related to the product and in the long run it's bad for society and consequently the market",,Anonymous,,,,,1501456548 135589891,135596319,2017-07-30 23:15:50,">>135596028 >tfw you posted an inflammatory image without meaning to it This is good, I got multiple laughs out of this mongolian basket.",,Anonymous,[laughs].png,UNAHPKFNTke0baQuW7XpBg==,,,1501456550 135589891,135596380,2017-07-30 23:16:28,">>135595999 face it bitch, you do everything exactly as the commies, with the same intent . Forcing people to go to church at gunpoint does not make them godly or moral. Socialism and statism is the ulltimate degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501456588 135589891,135596475,2017-07-30 23:17:27,,,Anonymous,10ed.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,US,,1501456647 135589891,135596482,2017-07-30 23:17:37,">>135596319 >being mad at the internet >being mad try again",,Anonymous,images (53).jpg,NDtGMBcWnYlYAcU6kBDtOA==,,,1501456657 135589891,135596524,2017-07-30 23:18:08,">>135595999 We generally hold that monopolies, an inflation of the size of companies above the optimal size, is a result of market intervention - overregulation and cronyism giving too much power to big buisnesses over the people and smaller, local business. Under a competitive free market economy, monopolies can't develop, as there's no way for big companies to prevent competing companies - they can't simply walk up to their (((cronies))) in government and choke buisnesses they don't like with regulatory capture.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501456688 135589891,135596574,2017-07-30 23:18:46,">>135596313 >>Consumerism is a social and economic order and ideology that encourages the acquisition of goods and services in ever-increasing amounts. >Consumerism is consuming for no other purpose than consuming, without carrying about quality or w/e related to the product and in the long run it's bad for society and consequently the market So which is it? We need to get one definiton if we want to even start debating this. I know you're 2 different posters but still.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501456726 135589891,135596763,2017-07-30 23:20:54,">>135595803 There's no freedom without Law and Order No freedom without responsibility. Thoughts?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501456854 135589891,135596797,2017-07-30 23:21:17,">>135596574 The first one is just autistic, it makes sense if ""ever-increasing amounts"" consequently decreases quality, otherwise is pure socialism",,Anonymous,,,,,1501456877 135589891,135596917,2017-07-30 23:22:36,">>135596763 >No freedom without responsibility. absolutely. I would even say freedom, morality and responsibility are the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501456956 135589891,135597266,2017-07-30 23:26:32,">>135596917 Is the 'spirit of the law' a librarian ideal? Also: how do we spread this message effectively?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501457192 135589891,135597349,2017-07-30 23:27:28,">>135595677 nice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501457248 135589891,135597364,2017-07-30 23:27:33,">>135596380 >>135596170 >hurr you are a commie I would love to be a heli pilot and give people free rides. >Forcing people to go to church at gunpoint does not make them godly or moral. Correct. But we should still gun down the faggots and insulters of other people's faith. Actually, specifically the one that is deeply ingrained to the culture of the nation. Other religious ideas can be criticized by the people that holds their values valiantly. A code of respect ,regarding how to talk about heretical ideas, can indeed be defined, depending on how civilized the people are but that is that. >>135596524 >overregulation and cronyism I see, that is a nice aspect. >If there is no state to support, bigcorps can't maintain their size. Wait, do you mean small state, or no state at all? Am I overreaching and assuming what you are implying?",,Anonymous,commiee.jpg,FHWn07ymTGMetDby7eir1Q==,,,1501457253 135589891,135597411,2017-07-30 23:28:05,">>135596917 So if you don't act moral, you aren't free? Nonsense. Freedom allows you to act immoral",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501457285 135589891,135597478,2017-07-30 23:28:56,">>135597364 You misrepresented what I fucking said, I'm not going to reply to you anymore.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501457336 135589891,135597596,2017-07-30 23:29:54,">>135589891 Keep up the good work, OP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501457394 135589891,135597772,2017-07-30 23:31:45,">>135597266 I believe so. I also believe if we had a convincing message, it would be the message to erase all the leftist degenerate libertarians and ancaps for good. Its hard to convince people, it seems mystical or religious to most people I talk to about it. The people who really need to understand it the most have an aversion to anything slightly righteous.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501457505 135589891,135598077,2017-07-30 23:35:10,">>135597411 If you don't act moral bad things happen to you. if you binge on drugs and have gay anal sex alot you get sick and die. The only the living remnants are what we cal moral people. Its a naturally eugenic enviorment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501457710 135589891,135598150,2017-07-30 23:35:57,14888 when?,,Anonymous,ZomboMeme 26072017234122.jpg,wBDZcie6rQqt/GNJnTr7lQ==,,,1501457757 135589891,135598261,2017-07-30 23:37:19,">>135598077 >If you don't act moral bad things happen to you I disagree. Acting immoral benefits you, at the expense of the larger community. Individualized benefits, socialized costs. That's the definition of ""immoral"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501457839 135589891,135598279,2017-07-30 23:37:30,">>135598150 I'm ready.",,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,US,,1501457850 135589891,135598372,2017-07-30 23:38:32,">>135597364 I personally believe their should be a state because of the grand chess board but it should be minimal as it was in the united states from the birth of our union to before the gilded age. I believe that their should be a heavy underpinning of society of Christianity or Hellenic Paganism that enforces social morality through group coercion; however, with that being said I believe that the government should not have the power to work alongside the church in enforcing social morality instead of ethical morality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501457912 135589891,135598591,2017-07-30 23:40:55,">>135598150 Autumn 2019 in Poland. BTW we should get a Korwin image like this one or the Ron Paul or Hoppe ones.",,Anonymous,punk's not red.png,KVDtOyxxpe5kskjV+69peg==,PL,,1501458055 135589891,135599009,2017-07-30 23:45:24,,,Anonymous,AncapMeme Wallpaper.png,XXJxnLnA6ZveWqrDevboQQ==,,,1501458324 135589891,135599035,2017-07-30 23:45:42,">>135597411 ""DURR DURR"" *Stfu you degenerate faggot. """"Evolutionary theory is implicit"""" ™®©",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501458342 135589891,135599283,2017-07-30 23:48:23,">>135598261 That sounds all fine in the short run, but a person who steals and murders to get their way puts themself in extremely high risk situations where they will likely get stolen from, kidnapped or killed. these high risk people will often show up, but they will never replace generations as much as the medium to low risk/high success rate lifestyles, the idea is that we eliminate the institutions that garentee saftey for ""immoral"" generations. ie ""the state"" and they die out. the free market WILL punish ""degeneracy"". quote me nerds.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501458503 135589891,135599382,2017-07-30 23:49:38,can i get a quick rundown on librarianism?,,Anonymous,totalvalues.png,QAryr+diONBfWFQmo6Aypg==,US,,1501458578 135589891,135599420,2017-07-30 23:50:06,">>135598372 >Small state Okay, let me entertain the idea. Taxes, yay or nay? Military, this is a problem. Small state cannot maintain a numerous and well supplied modern army in my opinion. Then, you will get invaded the fuck out. Which means your property getting plundered, your woman raped, your soil taken away and your rights into the trash where it belongs. Laws? I don't know about this one really. What do you think about these points?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501458606 135589891,135599648,2017-07-30 23:52:59,">>135599035 bite me cunt ""Huur the free market will make people MORE equal"" ""ANCAP TRAP HAREMS WHEN"" ""I just wanna be an ancap so I can do drugs a and be a degenerate"" >de·gen·er·ate >1. having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable; showing evidence of decline. >2. an immoral or corrupt person. >3. decline or deteriorate physically, mentally, or morally. That is explicitly the fucking definition of the word you retard. we're not neetsoc fags who sperg about this shit and not knowing what we're talking about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501458779 135589891,135599723,2017-07-30 23:54:06,"Are there limits to what could legally be considered property? Can human beings be property? Can land? Can a river be property? What about the water in the river? If I own a lake that drains into a river that you own, can I poison my lake? Can I charge you for the water? If you build a hydroelectric dam, can u demand the revenue since it uses water? Can society place an upper limit on how much can be owned? By natural law, can a man be said to own a piece of land he's never seen, or one that is thousands of miles away? Can a man own a thought? an idea? a species? a family? Can a man own debt? Does a man own himself? Can he sell himself? Can he bet his life? What about bloodsport? Can a man take his own life? Who inherits his debt? Can a village transfer all their debt to a man who then kills himself? Can a man sell the right to his own murder?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501458846 135589891,135600135,2017-07-30 23:59:02,">>135599283 Prediction is predicated on the assumption that people are (decent) Meaningless without catharsis. Yet; Meaningless without. You are lost",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501459142 135589891,135600186,2017-07-30 23:59:38,">>135599723 1. My freedom ends where your begins. 2. I think intelectual property wouldn't exist. 3. To own some abandoned plot of land you'd need to put work into it to make the claim legitimate. 4. Voluntary contracts have to be VOLUNTARY, that means consent from all groups involved.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501459178 135589891,135600257,2017-07-31 00:00:36,">>135599420 No property, capital gains, corporation, or personal income taxes at the national level. A low import or export tax would be fine(5-10%) to fund for a border defense system/navy. We shouldn't be the police men of the world. Law, you have the right to do what you please as long it hurts no one. A societal underpinning of religion is necessary to maintain a kind society, religion and government should not touch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501459236 135589891,135600418,2017-07-31 00:02:15,">>135599382 Violence is bad, stealing is bad. the free market puts the most productive, honest and responsible people on the top of the hierarchy ""the free market"" is when people act without theft, violence or threats, this includes the governing forces,. these acts of violence are what we call ""Statism"". we do want a sort of ""goverment"" but through the means we implement its voluntary and not ""statism"" ""property rights"" are important to decide what is and isnt violence or theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501459335 135589891,135600621,2017-07-31 00:04:24,">>135600257 >No property What? You mean property taxes r-right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501459464 135589891,135600653,2017-07-31 00:04:46,">>135591063 That's where you're wrong kiddo",,Anonymous,Democracy_Hoppe.jpg,yB8vimPv++F/Ee/W4g7Jig==,,,1501459486 135589891,135600883,2017-07-31 00:07:32,">>135600135 You misunderstand, I expect indecent people. The indecent people ""degenerates"" are by definition in a stage of decline, they are the lowest class.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501459652 135589891,135601084,2017-07-31 00:09:50,">>135600621 Property tax yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501459790 135589891,135601330,2017-07-31 00:12:27,"Greastest Ancap fiction writer? Though you could make an argument for Tolkien being the greatest protoancap fiction writer too but thats a WHOLE other debate.",,Anonymous,Neal_Stephenson_2008_crop.jpg,9/uVjEfBixHq8Xjs9lmgHQ==,US,,1501459947 135589891,135601442,2017-07-31 00:13:48,">>135594644 This is the best I could manage",,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-12.12.58.png,673W92UJ1IvLSw0gf5vwBw==,US,,1501460028 135589891,135601578,2017-07-31 00:15:18,">>135601442 fuggin saved. thanks man!",,Anonymous,1498071159275.png,hkilyxdDI6suWDimCn7vZg==,US,,1501460118 135589891,135601842,2017-07-31 00:18:02,">>135601084 >Property tax yes. For a moment, I thought I was replying to a gommie. Okay, how are you going to enforce law without having the necessary capital to even form a force projecting army? You need to pay for the criminal catching people. The place of your definition would be a miserable pool of fraud and falsification. Invader problem still remains, only solution I can see is that every country reduces their military capacity proportionally albeit this is not a realistic event to take place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501460282 135589891,135602099,2017-07-31 00:20:58,">>135601842 I should have made it clearer that this is at a national level. A state or province would be allowed to do what they wished when it came to taxes as long as they retain the constitution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501460458 135589891,135602187,2017-07-31 00:22:01,">>135600186 Where does the limit of who is involved draw from? Does my neighbor have a say in what I build if it affects his view? Does the man down wind of me have a say in me starting a land fill? If I owe a man a million dollars, can I sign a contract with another man that gifts land to my family in exchange for my participation in bloodsport that likely results in my death?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501460521 135589891,135602388,2017-07-31 00:24:08,">>135601842 Hey just looking at the time, gotta get up early tomorrow. Peace out man good talk.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501460648 135589891,135602433,2017-07-31 00:24:45,">>135602388 By by libbity hoppity",,Anonymous,,,,,1501460685 135589891,135602654,2017-07-31 00:27:29,">>135602187 I'm assuming you're either living under a society with some private laws to deal with situations like that already, or you are the private owner of your property and you need to form some sort of long term agreement with your neighbours. To the debt problem, if your debt doesn't limit your freedom ( you could have for instance, risk being a slave for a million dollars ) you can.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501460849 135589891,135602693,2017-07-31 00:28:01,I started reading Democracy: The God That Failed recently,,Anonymous,,,,,1501460881 135589891,135602788,2017-07-31 00:29:14,">>135602693 How is it?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501460954 135589891,135602930,2017-07-31 00:31:01,">>135602654 I'm talking our ideal LibRight society, how do you think these questions should be answered?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501461061 135589891,135603142,2017-07-31 00:33:15,">>135601442 I hope you don't take offense, but I made it bigger and added a chopper",,Anonymous,AIRBOURNE_LEW.png,iYmwYP5NxWA/Gk3IB7qjaA==,US,,1501461195 135589891,135603181,2017-07-31 00:33:42,">>135602930 It should be answered by the private property owners. Our ""ideal LibRight society"" might mean anything from, every house owner is independent now to there is around 10 000 private property owners owning huge chunks of land. Private law and the NAP solves this stuff. If you cannot come to an understanding with your neighbour you can always go to court.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501461222 135589891,135603452,2017-07-31 00:36:41,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYS9fLucyt8,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501461401 135589891,135604106,2017-07-31 00:44:48,">>135602788 I've read the introduction and big chunk of the first chapter, but I have high expectations. Hoppe is a great speaker and it seems his books are just as great.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501461888 135589891,135604138,2017-07-31 00:45:13,">>135603181 How much power should courts have in situations like this? Is there a set of terms that should be assumed to exist between all property owners? If I have a contract with one neighbor, and another neighbor makes business plans based on the assumption that the contract between the two other neighbors exists, do the two participants in the original contract still have the right to nullify it? For instance, man1 and man2 own adjacent property. They agree with eachother that they will not build above 2 stories, so as not to interfere with eachothers views. man3 owns land adjacent to both and decides to build condos 5 stories high to capitalize on the unobstructed view over the other two pieces of property. Do man1 and man2 have the right to mutually terminate their contract, even though man3 is arguably involved due to basing his decisions on the pre-existing contract?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501461913 135589891,135604245,2017-07-31 00:46:26,">>135603142 I actually like yours better than my own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501461986 135589891,135604597,2017-07-31 00:50:44,">>135604138 >How much power should courts have in situations like this? As much as the parties involved agreed to. The NAP is to be respected between all property owners. Your freedom ends where my freedom begins. >If I have a contract, yada yada... If he didn't sing anything with you, you didn't participate in his decision so breaking the contract wouldn't violate the NAP, unless some other private law holds you back. >For instance, man1 and man2 own adjacent property. They agree with eachother that they will not build above 2 stories, so as not to interfere with eachothers views. man3 owns land adjacent to both and decides to build condos 5 stories high to capitalize on the unobstructed view over the other two pieces of property. Do man1 and man2 have the right to mutually terminate their contract, even though man3 is arguably involved due to basing his decisions on the pre-existing contract? You're making an assumption that these people would be pretty stupid not to take into account all of their neighbours. If negotiation doesn't work, take it to court. If the court rules against you, you can't do nothing. It's his property.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501462244 135589891,135605046,2017-07-31 00:56:29,>>135604245,,Anonymous,dude.png,DlSDZdAK+d6W6zOHsRNrUg==,US,,1501462589 135589891,135605720,2017-07-31 01:05:54,Working on a Henry Hazlitt one right now.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501463154 135589891,135606504,2017-07-31 01:17:11,">>135605720 Could you do Janusz Korwin Mikke next? Maybe with a crown on his head, adds to his lore. Also our an-caps in Poland have a joke around that he's a jewish cyborg named Ozjasz Goldberg. We have our own 4chan like /lrg/ culture spread around the internet, but Polish.",,Anonymous,Socialism.gif,XGSgMqAMzVrRbsKPkRx2ng==,PL,,1501463831 135589891,135606733,2017-07-31 01:20:37,">>135606504 Alright, I'll start on that next.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501464037 135589891,135607753,2017-07-31 01:35:06,"pic related, it's you all and everything you'd ""own"" in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,1496878711449.jpg,M53nR8Uqz9SPnpfP+90auQ==,,,1501464906 135589891,135607955,2017-07-31 01:37:43,">>135607753 Sorry, let me correct that, in MY ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501465063 135589891,135610007,2017-07-31 02:07:14,"Alright, this'll probably be my last post of the night",,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-02.06.08.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,US,,1501466834 135589891,135611571,2017-07-31 02:30:54,">>135601442 >>135593179 Great shit senpai, but Rothbard is the original enemy of the state. Replace ""anatomy"" with ""enemy""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501468254 135589891,135612114,2017-07-31 02:39:27,">>135610007 I love you",,Anonymous,1494258514807.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,US,,1501468767 135589891,135612279,2017-07-31 02:42:00,"We need more threads like this I can ""identify"" with the Alt-Light, but not the Alt-Right 4chan shouldn't be this naive, ignorant and sarcastic",,Anonymous,IMG_2335.jpg,toFVys4TG8hrB/Zfc5icKw==,,,1501468920 135589891,135612539,2017-07-31 02:46:00,">>135612114 >non-aggression >physical removal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501469160 135589891,135612906,2017-07-31 02:52:17,">>135612539 Despite all of the Pinochet memes, physical removal, as originally described by Hoppe, did not refer to physical violence. Rather, it referred to the fact that individuals who espoused views that were harmful to liberty (communism, for example), would have to be - for lack of a better term - excommunicated from the community they inhabited, for if they were allowed to obtain power in any sort of capacity or indoctrinate others into their ideologies, the libertarian society we inevitably regress into tyranny.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501469537 135589891,135613103,2017-07-31 02:55:45,">>135612539 See >>135612906 Physically removing NAP-violators would be permitted in a libertarian society (provided that such an act would fit the transgression)",,Anonymous,,,,,1501469745 135589891,135613912,2017-07-31 03:09:42,http://www.strawpoll.me/13582104,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501470582 135589891,135618110,2017-07-31 04:22:26,">>135595646 well he's not wrong about the US he is however wrong about Germany, because the ""less fortunate fellow citizens"" that profit the most from tax paying are non-Germans, mostly Muslims, who hate Germany (even though Germany let them in and pays for them) who are not unfortunate but just not intelligent enough",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1501474946 135589891,135619416,2017-07-31 04:46:50,">>135595646 Absolutely pathetic. Sad!",,Anonymous,,,,,1501476410 135589891,135619719,2017-07-31 04:52:09,">>135596028 >national socialism >70%income tax please neck yourself faggot nazis werent socialists",,Anonymous,,,,,1501476729 135589891,135619767,2017-07-31 04:53:05,">>135599382 mein neger",,Anonymous,18762703_10211421376243844_1243285571_n.png,GYjEKGKKo68/ri01zHx56w==,,,1501476785 135589891,135619965,2017-07-31 04:56:31,">>135619719 Actually most of the profit between 70-90% would go to the workers and the entrepreneur would only keep 10%.This was used to motivate people in the nationalized industry.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1501476991 135589891,135621290,2017-07-31 05:24:06,">>135589891 imagine having a literally jewish ideology wait...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501478646 135589891,135621330,2017-07-31 05:24:51,">>135590781 yeah, fuck the state for not letting me take advantage of underaged girls!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501478691 135591194,135591194,2017-07-30 22:22:41,"Sources to help you get familiar with Libertarianism: Libertarian Discord: 7UcGBmn Introduction to libertarianism: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kHLTA9zO0 Waifu Lauren: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Oixo1eF18 Latest Ron Paul video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKcaqBzmKeo",Libertarian right general /lrg/,Anonymous,IMG_0799.jpg,q76wiRDuZQFMb6EghBwL9A==,US,,1501453361 135591194,135593231,2017-07-30 22:43:05,">>135591194 Come here faggot. >>135589891",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501454585 135660556,135660556,2017-07-31 14:24:48,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_lrg.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,GB,,1501511088 135660556,135660948,2017-07-31 14:28:41,Wassap my freedom Loving friends.,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1501511321 135660556,135661761,2017-07-31 14:37:19,">>135660556 Quick question about Anarcho-Capitalism Wiki reads: >In an anarcho-capitalist society, law enforcement, courts, and all other security services would be operated by privately funded competitors rather than centrally through compulsory taxation. So, basically it would be like health care in USA, right? And you'd have to buy all sort of insurance that most people couldn't afford?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501511839 135660556,135661791,2017-07-31 14:37:39,Slow thread today.,,Anonymous,catgirls.png,TUUOMgb/zLHYqo0fvR9yYw==,GB,,1501511859 135660556,135661990,2017-07-31 14:39:37,">>135661761 Loaded question, with your ""most people couldn't afford"" quip. It would be private, but healthcare and all other insurance would be much more affordable without government intervention in the market.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501511977 135660556,135662123,2017-07-31 14:40:56,">>135660556 END ROAD SOCIALISM",,Anonymous,,,,,1501512056 135660556,135662394,2017-07-31 14:43:15,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_072703.34.47.jpg,ZMJSCI1yerTMFffOfxOjqw==,US,,1501512195 135660556,135662654,2017-07-31 14:45:23,">>135661990 I'm not sure about that, what about monopolies? do you believe they would not exist? Human desire of power would be even bigger without any control, just like women get more and degenerate after feminism set them free. I bending towards libertarianizm, but I'm not naive about corruption",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501512323 135660556,135663260,2017-07-31 14:50:29,">>135662654 >Do you believe they would not exist? Essentially, yes. https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly https://mises.org/library/fear-monopoly https://mises.org/blog/blame-government-not-markets-monopoly",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501512629 135660556,135664780,2017-07-31 15:03:15,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-30-11.14.07.jpg,VDivy1FVaeZqWBBIlkMQRQ==,US,,1501513395 135660556,135665638,2017-07-31 15:10:31,">>135663260 Well, that sounds credible, but I still think AC is just a romantic vision, and would be exploited by some (((mob))) I'm speaking from my bad experience with people, I think I've mostly met the worst kind.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501513831 135660556,135666750,2017-07-31 15:19:37,,,Anonymous,1486790197188.jpg,OGjq/QG4ZFYsMj+1diO1Rw==,US,,1501514377 135660556,135667213,2017-07-31 15:23:30,">>135665638 >I think I've mostly met the worst kind. And they all become politicians.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501514610 135660556,135667338,2017-07-31 15:24:35,">>135665638 Surely this extends to government?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501514675 135660556,135667558,2017-07-31 15:26:35,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.47.16.jpg,xMKivUVXeMcmGVZcS7SrNQ==,US,,1501514795 135660556,135668350,2017-07-31 15:33:36,">>135662654 Korporacje i monopol może istnieć tylko dzięki rządowi. >>135665638 It's not a utopian system, but it is a meritocratic one. You gain power only by engaging in the free market capitalism, thus improving lives of all people around you. A tu masz przykład jak działa monopol państwowy. Goverment is just a monopol on services you want.",,Anonymous,podatki to moje paliwo.jpg,o6bD9vOrfNjeSLzuEwBwmQ==,PL,,1501515216 135660556,135668655,2017-07-31 15:36:08,">>135667213 >>135667338 >Surely this extends to government? it does, that's why any system is fucked up, unless a monarchy with some venerable and just leader, but that even if happened would be short-lived",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501515368 135660556,135668774,2017-07-31 15:37:05,">>135668655 >Being blackpilled",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501515425 135660556,135668813,2017-07-31 15:37:29,">>135660948 Hoppe is the hope for humanity",,Anonymous,,,,,1501515449 135660556,135668871,2017-07-31 15:38:05,">>135661990 who would take care of the disabled?",,Anonymous,confiused by charity.png,GY/URTtkbXD/qG4Hx2iJTA==,US,,1501515485 135660556,135669042,2017-07-31 15:39:24,">>135668871 http://www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.html",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501515564 135660556,135669346,2017-07-31 15:42:03,">>135668871 Previously purchased insurances, their families and private charity in the extreme cases. Did you for a second think what happens if we eliminate the need for family and private, discriminating charity? People become nihilistic assholes. So encouraging the role of family and charity will only make sure people behave better if only to make sure people give a shit about them.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501515723 135660556,135669426,2017-07-31 15:42:45,">>135668774 You might be right, I spend last 10 years living in London(hardly british these days), and as you can imagine, not being from the wealthy, I only interacted with mostly shitskins and degenerates. It changed my life, and view of people.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501515765 135660556,135669643,2017-07-31 15:44:42,">>135668655 We advocate for contract based private cities, meaning, you will be, if you chose to live in any of the multiple private cities, under the rule a benevolent king under a contract of services.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501515882 135660556,135669825,2017-07-31 15:46:04,">>135669426 Look. Poland is like 99.9% white. So why aren't we rich and a great nation? There is only one answer - socialist democracy. I agree with monarchy, us ancaps think that ancapistan can come through either evolution of systems from basically communist ones to minarchist monarchies or through the collapse of socialist goverments.",,Anonymous,coming.jpg,tAnUiOQbYgpGqLTJW6CvDw==,PL,,1501515964 135660556,135670370,2017-07-31 15:50:42,">>135669825 To me the answer is >>corruption socialist-democracy isn't bad on itself take for example Education, soc-dem gives equal rights to peoples education, how does it look like in Ancap?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501516242 135660556,135670993,2017-07-31 15:56:04,">>135670370 Do you honestly think the current system of education isn't shit? People are not equal. If you can't do maths you shouldn't be taught maths. If you cannot comprehend chemistry, guess what? The current system makes the speed of education set at the worst individual.",,Anonymous,1498168013982.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,PL,,1501516564 135660556,135671194,2017-07-31 15:57:55,">>135660556 Have a bump",,Anonymous,95508338.png,Q/b9hSBNn3+QEfsO3iwaqg==,,,1501516675 135660556,135672437,2017-07-31 16:08:35,">>135670993 well it's not like we're all geniuses, and in fact if someone is clearly ahead of the rest, gets promoted to +1year older class also after primary school you get to choose which direction you want to educate yourself so it's not that shit i suppose in ancap you'd have private tutors, and most of them would be incompetent shits, and no way of knowing that. that is my concern about ancap. i guess i spent too mych time in my life among niggers and shitskins, but i just can't imagine ancap country without violence, like gang wars or worse because of course those private cities would have private armies, right?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501517315 135660556,135672614,2017-07-31 16:10:13,">>135670993 >>135672437 Just to add, The State in ancap would still exist, it would only be privatized.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501517413 135660556,135673534,2017-07-31 16:17:34,">>135672614 >Just to add, The State in ancap would still exist, it would only be privatized. This is misleading; the functions of the state would mostly be carried out, but the state would stop existing and a competitive market of law would take it's place.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501517854 135660556,135673751,2017-07-31 16:19:22,">>135672614 I'm not going to respond to any of that if you don't form an argument. >>135672437 After 9 years of shitty education, you can finnaly specialise. Great. No. It would be the free market. If you want you can send your kid to a general school, to a specialised school, a school without maths, a school without grammar or just private tutors, exc. Free choice. Your theory of ""incompetent shits"" has no support because the free market increases quality with time naturally. exc. Free choice.",,Anonymous,strong men good times.jpg,X3iQofzBXGPxUC4MGv+lIg==,PL,,1501517962 135660556,135673793,2017-07-31 16:19:40,">>135660556 >right 'libertarian'",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,956gBlhO35qt9M+eb2/BfQ==,,,1501517980 135660556,135674089,2017-07-31 16:22:05,">>135673793 well atleast your better then the fascist who can't seem to have any integrity ever",,Anonymous,1494517655439.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,,,1501518125 135660556,135674159,2017-07-31 16:22:47,">>135673793 >But now we had taken it over Do you have difficulty understanding what this means?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501518167 135660556,135674165,2017-07-31 16:22:50,">>135674089 true individualism",,Anonymous,1497140275537.jpg,XMcmiPkTM0bKuXJd0CnveA==,,,1501518170 135660556,135674266,2017-07-31 16:23:41,">>135660556 That one in the middle isn't /bernie/ is it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501518221 135660556,135674349,2017-07-31 16:24:16,Why are white babies so much more expensive than black babies?,,Anonymous,890d2c_60549053.jpg,Xn2cJ82RIU1VccdpVSBF6w==,,,1501518256 135660556,135674401,2017-07-31 16:24:45,">>135674089 You cannot comprehend what private property is you fucking commie, scum like you get to be declared cattle in our world. >>135674266 This is Hans Herman Hoppe you fucking..... Jesus christ.... How can you make such an idiotic guess?",,Anonymous,Argh!.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,PL,,1501518285 135660556,135674411,2017-07-31 16:24:51,">>135674159 no not at all, its just that sometimes people seem to hate what they call ""post modernist trickery"" while other times definitions are up for grabs it all depends on where you stand ;^) i just posted it to make people aware of it. Im sure they can either flip flop between definitions , or stick to one. Its not like integrity is valued high in politics anyways",,Anonymous,,,,,1501518291 135660556,135674511,2017-07-31 16:25:51,">>135674266 Nope. Left to right: >Murray N. Rothbard, Ron Paul, Hans-Hermann Hoppe, (((Ayn Rand))), Ralph Raico?, Frederic Bastiat, Ludwig von Mises, F. A. Hayek.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501518351 135660556,135674716,2017-07-31 16:27:31,">>135674401 >'in ouer world' too bad im living in reality, and i don't see any real constructs, just spooks good luck with your 'world' its about time you started doing something, the left has been winning for too long. But the whole game of ideas is just part of an dialectical process, and most people are sheeps in the system. Im sure you will do your part bootlicker",,Anonymous,HSVDk9V.jpg,NQmlz92zjO275UVhrwz//g==,,,1501518451 135660556,135674779,2017-07-31 16:28:06,">>135673751 Your pic related is great >Your theory of ""incompetent shits"" has no support because the free market increases quality with time naturally It has support in reality, we have fairly free market take for example food US has very little restrictions on food quality EU has fair shit ton of restrictions I imagine ancap would just have paid shills to sell you some beef full of hormones, and tell you how healthy it is i'm not saying EU is better, but al least in theory there is no conflict of interest ancap is like conflict of interest clusterfuck in some cases, as I see it",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501518486 135660556,135674916,2017-07-31 16:29:21,">>135674716 >Posts Stirner memes >Believes in dialeticalism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501518561 135660556,135674917,2017-07-31 16:29:23,">>135660556 Do you owe your family, and by extension race, anything for collecting superior genes over the millennia to produce you? One might argue that national socialism is just the free market and you're paying to give a dignified life and to protect the descendants of the people who provided you with a powerful intellect.",,Anonymous,1498339121129.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,,,1501518563 135660556,135674975,2017-07-31 16:29:48,as a chinese transexual I wish to join this movement to fight for individual liberty. Racists and Sexists/Homophobes - anyone that discriminates from a collective perspective must be REMOVED,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501518588 135660556,135675100,2017-07-31 16:30:44,>>135674975,,Anonymous,caught_a_big_guy.jpg,Xw/BriwRRHp1eQu+gaWf3A==,GB,,1501518644 135660556,135675459,2017-07-31 16:33:36,">>135660556 this is honestly a great piece of artwork L to R: Murray Rothbard Ron Paul Hoppe (front) Ayn Rand (Back) Milton Friedman (?) De Tocqueville (back) Ludwig von Mises (front) FA Hayek Well done, whoever did this OC.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501518816 135660556,135675523,2017-07-31 16:34:10,">>135675100 Hardly seeing a difference from anarcho communism and libertarianism. As an anarcho communist we believed in a revolution that would end in every individuals rights being respected regardless of race/gender.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501518850 135660556,135675679,2017-07-31 16:35:28,">>135674716 Bootlicker? You are the one advocating for goverment to take care of you from the day you are born to the day you die. The left has been winning? Since when? Last year things turned around. >>135674779 ""Fairly free market"" The EU is a communist institution and the taxation in most of the western world is at least 50%. In Poland I'd say around 60-70% of your money goes to goverment. In ancap you buy whatever you want. >>135674917 One can argue communism works. >>135675523 Fuck off no niggers, muslims and mental illness allowed in my private society.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501518928 135660556,135675868,2017-07-31 16:37:05,">>135674917 I'd argue you don't 'owe' them anything (per se) as far as that would violate your natural rights & self ownership. One could make that argument, which would be a variation of the argument that because states exist, it shows their is a demand for them, but this can't be said to be a 'free market' in politics since you can't simply choose another type of government (competition). More importantly, almost every state is formed via conquest and violence, so this argument doesn't really hold unless you're of the opinion that might makes right.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501519025 135660556,135675931,2017-07-31 16:37:33,">>135673534 >a competitive market of law would take it's place so basically Private State, you can only name it differently",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501519053 135660556,135676023,2017-07-31 16:38:16,"I consider myself a minarchist (well, after a brief research it seemed like my exact views) and am about to read Nozick's Anarchy, State and Utopia. Is it a good start? I'd not count myself as a ""conservative"" though.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1501519096 135660556,135676144,2017-07-31 16:39:21,">>135675679 Uh yes there is. There is nothing to stop us from opening our own business's and owning land and sustaining and growing ourselves within said society. No government can intrude on our individual and property rights. All that matters is whether we survive in the free market.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501519161 135660556,135676214,2017-07-31 16:39:57,">>135675931 Completely false, a state is defined as a territorial monopolist of force, these companies aren't monopolists at all (you could have neighbors subscribed to completely different systems of law), more importantly these companies aren't allowed to use violence at will. >>135676023 >I'd not count myself as a ""conservative"" though. Why not?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501519197 135660556,135676475,2017-07-31 16:41:58,">>135675931 It's not the same. There is a difference between a competetive market of law and an uncompetetive market of law. >>135676023 http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ reading list you might be interested in >>135676144 Your private property wouldn't be in the said society and if you try to intrude we would physically remove you. Other then that I agree. Since when there is demand there is supply, degenerates would probably have some place where a capitalist can gain profits from them.",,Anonymous,commies.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,PL,,1501519318 135660556,135676747,2017-07-31 16:44:09,">>135676214 >you could have neighbors subscribed to completely different systems of law And how would that work? Give me an example, or I assume you don't know what you're talking about",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501519449 135660556,135676884,2017-07-31 16:45:25,">>135675679 You didn't answer my question though",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501519525 135660556,135676976,2017-07-31 16:46:10,">>135676214 I believe people should be able to act and be as they want, without the gov. intervening with them or even suggesting some ""acceptable"" behaviour for them. I think I'd be a conservative if I were living in a 1st world country but from where I stand, more freedom isn't a bad thing. >>135676475 thanks anon but I know of that site, I was wondering what you faggots think of Nazick.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1501519570 135660556,135677192,2017-07-31 16:48:08,">>135676475 Uh you can't remove me. Government power and any monopoly of violence has been removed and we have been given equal access to arms/violence capabilities. We also would not stand alone as many libertarians would stand by our individual rights to exist. At best you could vocally oppose our being and also boycott us.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501519688 135660556,135677310,2017-07-31 16:49:09,">>135674089 God that pic is so fucking stupid. It offers no solution and just says it's the same thing so, lets go with what we have now. What we have now: >The banking industry owns the land and will always reclaim it if you stop payment >Pay taxes to live on the land you're already paying for >Have to consult with the state about what you do and put on their land >If you do not do these things you land is taken and you face going to jail I say PASS. You faggots don't understand what it used to be like owning a plot of land to do with what you wanted. Now you're all so cucked and brainwashed by the federal government you'll defend their right to shove a meaty girthy cock down your stupid fucking throats.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501519749 135660556,135677402,2017-07-31 16:49:50,">>135676747 Why do you think you know our political believes better than ourselves? You're coming in with pretty loaded statements. I can give you an example from not such far history: Berlin, in the Cold War days of East and West Germany. >>135677192 Do you know what private property is? We can remove you from our private property.",,Anonymous,left vs right.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PL,,1501519790 135660556,135677487,2017-07-31 16:50:45,">>135675931 No wonder that stupid slavs became communist. Fucking snowniggers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501519845 135660556,135677598,2017-07-31 16:51:44,">>135677487 Us slavs were forced into communism by yours truly, then decades of brainwashing made us forever socialist.",,Anonymous,1500077590659.jpg,3BkQoq7QrNYMcVXPJFmI2w==,PL,,1501519904 135660556,135677687,2017-07-31 16:52:39,">>135677402 Uh I won't be near your private property, I will be gathering with fellow minded suppressed minorities and left libertarians ensuring we create our own production and economic base while growing faster than your sect of the libertarian society via importing foreigners.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501519959 135660556,135677724,2017-07-31 16:53:00,">>135677402 >Why do you think you know our political believes better than ourselves? You're coming in with pretty loaded statements. NO, I'm trying to understand what is Ancap about, if you can't explain, maybe you shouldn't post like you know something. >I can give you an example from not such far history: >Berlin, in the Cold War days of East and West Germany. wew, east and west germany WHAT? what am I supposed to think of that? that's not even example, it's a shit post, no fucking content at all",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501519980 135660556,135678035,2017-07-31 16:55:27,">>135676747 Polycentric law is a rather wide subject which I don't have massive knowledge on. Roughly, it works similar to private arbitration currently, and such systems have existed in the (not so wild) wild west, celtic ireland, and generally in Europe via the practice of anglo-saxon law. More reading on the subject: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o >The Machinery of Freedom (David Friedman) - http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto Of course, you would know all this if you actually read the OP. I'm sure such an intelligent man of yourself would know, I guess you just forgot? It's ok, I have a short memory too.",,Anonymous,ancap_reading.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,GB,,1501520127 135660556,135678062,2017-07-31 16:55:43,Where's the avatar fag that uses a picture of Kelly Anne for every post so he can stand out on a containment thread in a containment board on an anonymous website?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501520143 135660556,135678154,2017-07-31 16:56:29,">>135677724 >you could have neighbors subscribed to completely different systems of law >And how would that work? Give me an example, or I assume you don't know what you're talking about West and east berlin. I don't know who's shitposting who anymore. >>135677687 Whatever then, as long as you don't violate our NAP.",,Anonymous,1500079138117.jpg,TZjoRnPkPOR+DXFukSKijw==,PL,,1501520189 135660556,135678490,2017-07-31 16:59:28,">>135678035 >Of course, you would know all this No I wouldn't, I don't have to know EVERYTHING to be intelligent, but I'm sure such an intelligent man as yourself would know that and thanks for the effort of copypasting relevant links,",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501520368 135660556,135678523,2017-07-31 16:59:45,">>135678154 >Whatever then, as long as you don't violate our NAP. Except we will be encouraging a culture of collective activism/organization and identity politics while you encourage a culture of hyper individualism and "" leave me alone-ism "" and will be divided and easily defeated over time.",,Anonymous,le liberator face.png,+T52AdjpnLgsLVYmTdMgMQ==,CA,,1501520385 135660556,135678657,2017-07-31 17:00:38,">>135678154 >West and east berlin. West and east berlin what? Can you type full sentence? What are you talking about?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501520438 135660556,135678972,2017-07-31 17:03:28,">>135678657 You asked for an example of how neighbours can be subscribed to completely different systems of law, I gave you one that has already happened under goverments. West and east berlin were under different goverments.",,Anonymous,taras.jpg,NMBnFYojk7ORcvI+UsPkCg==,PL,,1501520608 135660556,135679565,2017-07-31 17:08:30,,,Anonymous,Ralph-Waldo-Emerson-300x330.jpg,UMin4Qs9YJ0cAwablesDBg==,GB,,1501520910 135660556,135680006,2017-07-31 17:12:15,">>135661761 Yes. Private corporations would be responsible for everything not just health care. People being unable a product is not a concern of an an-cap society unless they are not making profit due to an inability to pay the currency or goods/services deemed accepted by the service being provided (healthcare in this case) >>135662654 Monopolies would and should exist and will fall given a long enough time scale. >>135665638 A mob of corporations? Take your business elsewhere, organize a takeover. Fight against whatever mob is trying to destroy your way of life. An-cap is not a movement for pussies unable to take action into their own hands. >>135670370 The inability to decide what government you follow is a crime against man. A private funded government could be founded in an an-cap society. Don't like it? Don't live there, don't pay them. >>135672437 There would be violence outside of whatever bubble of community/corporation you reside around. Again, it's not a movement for pussies. >>135672614 Everything would be privatized. There's a basic explanation for you. >>135677724",,Anonymous,,,,,1501521135 135660556,135680148,2017-07-31 17:13:19,">>135677687 >Importing foreigners increases economic growth >Not accounting for cultural differences that would tear your community apart >not accounting for islamic takeover >not accounting for foreigners wanting gibs Well, what can you expect from a leaf?",,Anonymous,ancap vs ancom png.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,,,1501521199 135660556,135680281,2017-07-31 17:14:22,">>135680148 http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1501535612430.webm",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501521262 135660556,135680612,2017-07-31 17:16:56,">>135678972 There was also a wall separating them, so they were not neighbors as individuals You clearly have no idea what you're talking about",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501521416 135660556,135680866,2017-07-31 17:19:00,">>135680612 They can't be a neigbour if there is a wall seperating them? What's the problem?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501521540 135660556,135681239,2017-07-31 17:21:58,">>135678523 Identify groups are the easiest to pit against each other. You will implode from infighting before anything gets done. t. Rabbi Shekelgrubber",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501521718 135660556,135681245,2017-07-31 17:22:01,">>135680006 >Yes. Private corporations would be responsible for everything not just health care. So it would be like Private State, the only difference would be , you could choose one of many, and hope for not getting screwed up by the small print Basically that would be like emigrating to different country without moving your house. So the State would still exist, only it would be privatized. OK, I think i get it now. Ancap is basically Mexico.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501521721 135660556,135681474,2017-07-31 17:23:53,,,Anonymous,randy_gadsden_pole_background_01.png,x+CRX3PggJEMfHXexYl3Cg==,,,1501521833 135660556,135681666,2017-07-31 17:25:23,">>135681245 >Irrationally hating 'muh small print'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501521923 135660556,135681673,2017-07-31 17:25:28,">>135681245 How the fuck is Mexico libertarian in any way? Are you retarded?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501521928 135660556,135681856,2017-07-31 17:27:05,">>135681673 The Mexican gov is very weak. Gangs are the law in many areas. So there isn't a monopoly on violence. It's libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501522025 135660556,135681942,2017-07-31 17:27:54,">>135681245 There are a lot of countries like an-cap but, nothing is an an-cap society. Mexico uses their current government to fuck over their people. It's far from an-cap. The state would only exist if a large enough group of people supported their movement. If people stopped supporting it then it would wither and die quickly from lack of funding.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501522074 135660556,135682153,2017-07-31 17:29:36,">>135681673 You have 3 drug cartels and official government to choose from for taking your interests, sounds just about like ancap.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501522176 135660556,135682434,2017-07-31 17:31:41,">>135682153 >How the fuck is it libertarian? >You can choose between 3 cartels. You're surely a great intellectual.",,Anonymous,1500077340883.jpg,UWAxl18qIFxMR5lE1YbbBA==,PL,,1501522301 135660556,135682544,2017-07-31 17:32:32,"Hey lads. I'm starting to see the appeal for gun control in the UK - any self-respecting man would have opened fire on this abomination that some call Brighton. At least there's fewer burqas here than at the Vienna Airport.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,GB,,1501522352 135660556,135682655,2017-07-31 17:33:27,">>135682434 Oh, so you run out of arguments, and decided to attack me personally, bravo",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501522407 135660556,135682702,2017-07-31 17:33:52,">>135682655 You argument is shit no point in rebutting it.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501522432 135660556,135682769,2017-07-31 17:34:27,">>135682153 Drug cartels in Mexico exist because they can sell drugs, humans, and general gangster shit to neighboring countries at highly inflated rates. Without hyper inflated drug prices these cartels would shrivel up and lose power. There is currently a much higher demand for drugs than any other illegal service offered by these mexican cartels. It is also not an an-cap society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501522467 135660556,135682779,2017-07-31 17:34:31,">>135677687 You do that. I'm sure you'll get along just fine in a low-trust, commie society.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501522471 135660556,135682871,2017-07-31 17:35:19,">>135682702 You've jumped in a thread, and have no fucking clue what it is about, why don't you read from the beggining or just fuck off",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501522519 135660556,135683113,2017-07-31 17:37:06,">>135682871 fucking bitch",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501522626 135660556,135683295,2017-07-31 17:38:30,">>135682871 I have read from the beggining, comparing a shitty state like Mexico to a libertarian free society is intellectualy dishonest. You also didn't provide an argument for it other than ""I think an-capistan is a crime ridden shithole, so let me compare it to a crime ridden shithole.""",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501522710 135660556,135683408,2017-07-31 17:39:23,">>135682769 >It is also not an an-cap society. So what is ancap society? is it society without corruption and criminal gangs? I'm trying to look at the bottomside of ancap, not just fall in love with upsides.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501522763 135660556,135683555,2017-07-31 17:40:33,">>135683408 It is a society of private law, where the only rules everyone needs to obey is private property and the non-agression principle.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501522833 135660556,135683767,2017-07-31 17:42:17,">>135661990 There is huge demand for technological alternatives, for example for Windows, Google, Facebook. The free market should now have seen that they just print money every month. Where is the competition? Why do this quasi monopolies exists?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501522937 135660556,135683812,2017-07-31 17:42:41,">>135683555 So I'm trying, as politely as I can, to find out how would you enforce all this? Can you answer this without spamming liks to other sites?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501522961 135660556,135683854,2017-07-31 17:43:05,>>135660556,,Anonymous,1499568057802.jpg,aSca+QoFg+3GmH5FDojmDw==,US,,1501522985 135660556,135683891,2017-07-31 17:43:20,">>135683767 >Why do this quasi monopolies exists? Your flag, and other institutions like that.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501523000 135660556,135683990,2017-07-31 17:44:06,">>135683812 >Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501523046 135660556,135684019,2017-07-31 17:44:19,">>135683408 That's what you're not understanding. It is an upside and downside society. It is driven by the people around it and not by a governing force. The closest analogy to what an an-cap society would be like is how the fallout universe is like. There would be gangs, there would be violence, there would be corruption. There would also not be those things with some places that have a mixture of good and bad. It is the ultimate freedom of choice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501523059 135660556,135684046,2017-07-31 17:44:35,">>135683891 >Your flag, and other institutions like that. That's just a meme EU is shit atm, but in principle it was pretty much ancap",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501523075 135660556,135684161,2017-07-31 17:45:45,">>135683854 LOL",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,umekDIMAkcWcPorLQS5bYg==,PL,,1501523145 135660556,135684170,2017-07-31 17:45:48,">>135683812 Enforce it with private security forces and the ability for anyone to own a firearm, or tank, or whatever. >>135683767 Because goverments fund them. Windows, Google, Facebook, Twitter, their customers are the goverments, not the user. >>135684046 >Centrilizing everything is an-cap >Communist creation, lead by communis is an-cap Jesus fucking christ man...",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501523148 135660556,135684212,2017-07-31 17:46:10,">>135683812 Yourself, your community, or a private corporation to represent you accordingly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501523170 135660556,135684246,2017-07-31 17:46:25,">>135684046 Political centralisation is something we oppose on principle, though.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501523185 135660556,135684549,2017-07-31 17:48:48,">>135684170 I said IN PRINCIPLE, you fucking retard would it be too much if I asked you to leave the conversation to adults? EU was meant to be just a free trade contract, then free movement, learn something instead of just shitposting and pretending to be knowledgeable",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501523328 135660556,135684647,2017-07-31 17:49:38,">>135684246 That's why EU is a shithole atm, but it wasn't meant to be like that when it started",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501523378 135660556,135684932,2017-07-31 17:51:47,">>135680006 > Private corporations would be responsible for >everything not just health care Why shouldn't a private corporation take bribes so high that if would offset any penalty they have to pay? As long there is a net gain, why not do it, if there are no other rules? We see this dysfunction already in banks, you do something shitty weekly - and already calculated the fines in, still having gains.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501523507 135660556,135685335,2017-07-31 17:55:03,">>135684932 You're thinking about a government these corporations would have to fall back on. If a corporation is doing shit people do not like then the people will not be obligated to continue paying for their services and take business elsewhere. Your neighbor could become your health insurance agent.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501523703 135660556,135685417,2017-07-31 17:55:38,">>135684170 >Because goverments fund them. Windows, Google, Facebook, Twitter, their customers are the goverments, not the user. Facebook makes billions by ads, not by governments. Its the human factor, that fails all the libertarian ideas. If nobody wants to be fucking zuckerberg, he will stay alone there and rake in the monies. Theoretical competition is not real competition and no wiggling will change that. The left also constantly ""plans"" with a human who isn't willing to be communist cattle. Even Lenin needed to kidnap whole families so the farmers produced more food they needed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501523738 135660556,135685457,2017-07-31 17:56:03,">>135684647 Yes, it was, no reason to centralize it. Politics is full of excuses, but their objectives are always the same: increase the power of the state, dimish the power of the individual.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501523763 135660556,135685622,2017-07-31 17:57:32,">>135685335 Thats not how human nature works. ""For me, this low interest is good. What, they fucked some people at the other side of the world? Why do I care?"" As long the fuckery is well boxed away, most of people would say ""Didn't they pay the fine"" and just keep it that way. People hate on things like Paypal for years, still they don't change a thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501523852 135660556,135685733,2017-07-31 17:58:27,">>135685457 In other words - corruption and it seems to me Ancap is a perfect system for that. I'm trying to have someone convince me it's not, but I'm starting to think I'm just wasting my time",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501523907 135660556,135685867,2017-07-31 17:59:27,">>135685733 You mean that anarcho-capitalism is a system that tends to centralize the power? What's your question?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501523967 135660556,135685997,2017-07-31 18:00:33,">>135685733 Ancap in a society where is no free land to grab will not work. It will give one side a HUGE advantage over other. With the moon and other planets, it would be an interesting experiment.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524033 135660556,135686220,2017-07-31 18:02:37,">>135685622 Are you really trying to use human nature as an argument... I'll ignore that part. There are alternatives to paypal and you can use them if you wanted. Why should you care if they're fucking over people on the other side of the world? That part of the world can have a paypal alternative that can fuck you over on your side of the world. Choose business accordingly. If you continue to pay a company that does not have your best interest at heart then you are stupid at best. Most of the reason why we can't take our business elsewhere is because of laws and governing principles telling us what we can or cannot do in a supposed ""free market""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524157 135660556,135686250,2017-07-31 18:02:55,">>135685867 >You mean that anarcho-capitalism is a system that tends to centralize the power No, it's a perfect system for corrupted organisations Do you now have any idea what is going on in private corporations? In Ancap there is no transparency so no one would know how corrupted they are, who owns what company, there could be one group of people who owns all competing companies/services, and you wouldn't know that",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501524175 135660556,135686319,2017-07-31 18:03:31,">>135685622 you just made a much stronger argument against taxes, but you dont even realize it the worst thing a private actor can do is multiplied with state power",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524211 135660556,135686506,2017-07-31 18:05:12,here is a better discord /sDDWdm,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501524312 135660556,135686629,2017-07-31 18:06:06,">>135686250 are you sure you care about transparency? why is your polish military allowed to keep THEIR technology secret?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524366 135660556,135686675,2017-07-31 18:06:33,">>135686220 >Are you really trying to use human nature as an argument... I'll ignore that part Well there you go, that's the problem you have > If you continue to pay a company that does not have your best interest at heart then you are stupid at best. Or maybe there is no alternative? Look at democracy, they always say if you don't like this president/party vote for someone else but what choice do you have? most of the time you vote for lesser evil",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501524393 135660556,135686790,2017-07-31 18:07:35,">>135686250 >Do you now have any idea what is going on in private corporations? >In Ancap there is no transparency So, start a business that provides transparency and enforce this standard you set. People would pay you to do this if you were trusted enough from both sides. You're thinking too much about a government again instead of what your own personal freedom can do about the issue you're describing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524455 135660556,135686830,2017-07-31 18:07:54,">>135662394 This, none of that AnCap nonsense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501524474 135660556,135686966,2017-07-31 18:09:09,">>135686675 is it human nature to steal? or is it human nature to see stealing as wrong?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524549 135660556,135687001,2017-07-31 18:09:27,">>135660556 I believe the US as founded was Porto-libertarianism. Stated in words such as 'the government that governs best governs least'.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501524567 135660556,135687088,2017-07-31 18:10:10,">>135686250 I understand your worry, but I think that it wouldn't happen for several reasons. First, big organizations don't work well beucase of their size. It's hard for them com compete with smaller companies who can offer a more specialized service based on what the client wants. Second, if we are speaking about communities of like-minded people, there would be a need to look for where your money is going and this would find these corrupt organizations easily. Third, these big companies benefit in the current system beucase the inflation benefits them, so they can sell in scale easily. You wanna get rid of your money because it will devaluate. A deflationary system inverts this power, increasing the power of communities and individuals.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501524610 135660556,135687110,2017-07-31 18:10:18,">>135686675 It's not a problem I have it's just pointless to bring up in a free society like an-cap. Niggers gonna nig, christians gonna crucify, muslims gonna behead. People will take advantage of things if you do not see them or let them get away with it. That's true for every society. There is no alternative because of government regulations and restrictions telling you that it is illegal to start alternatives.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524618 135660556,135687202,2017-07-31 18:11:08,">>135660556 so many jews in one picture wow just wow",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501524668 135660556,135687282,2017-07-31 18:11:52,">>135687202 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501524712 135660556,135687297,2017-07-31 18:11:59,">>135686220 Why is ""human nature"" not an argument? Why not building the best and biggest ""cop company"" out there, crushing the competition AND then, when you are the biggest cop-google in the land, telling everybody ""For 1 billion dollars, you can kill someone for free"". People will be disgusted, but since the company is the only one with the best ""do not murder this person or we will fry you"" contracts, nobody will change that. They will simply hope they aren't the one that someone wants to kill for a billion. This is how this world works with this ""kind"" of humans. Lowest energy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524719 135660556,135687308,2017-07-31 18:12:05,">>135660556 If taxes are abolished rather than a 10% flare are, and property taxes are abolished( which I heavily support) how would basic gov. responsibilities be funded? What gov. spending would you cut that would be in equalibrium with the much lessened revenue and debt we must pay?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501524725 135660556,135687329,2017-07-31 18:12:15,">>135686790 >So, start a business that provides transparency and enforce this standard you set There's no way to do that in ancap society? There's no law that would force corporation to be transparent, and believe me no single corporation would want to be transparent",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501524735 135660556,135687330,2017-07-31 18:12:15,">>135660556 (((Ayn Rand))) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501524735 135660556,135687450,2017-07-31 18:13:19,">>135686830 Hoppean snake is anarcho capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501524799 135660556,135687578,2017-07-31 18:14:31,">>135686830 Lol nigga, I am AnCap and so is snekboy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501524871 135660556,135687621,2017-07-31 18:14:54,"You guys worship liberty just like Christians worship god, SJWs worship oppression, and communists worship poverty. You are no better than these groups. Stay spooked, my dudes. I might dress up as a ancap for halloween.",,Anonymous,1494639884062.jpg,o3QgOtEIIzLbzEjIWup2BA==,,,1501524894 135660556,135687667,2017-07-31 18:15:17,">>135687088 >A deflationary system inverts this power, increasing the power of communities and individuals. I don't think that's the way money works, besides you'd have 1000s of currencies to choose from, because anyone could print money",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501524917 135660556,135687720,2017-07-31 18:15:48,">>135687308 You will have three companies taking care of roads. Two of them are shits like ""beat him out"" american airplane companies or cable companies who lie and steal your money. Piss poor road quality, lowest denominator. Three different proprietary toll systems, who will overcharge you constantly and you are too tired to fight all the small $1 and $10 everywhere.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524948 135660556,135687726,2017-07-31 18:15:50,">>135687308 >Having a government >>135687621 Hating religion",,Anonymous,shiddy diggy.jpg,w+JWkoN0svSMcSIMVeS4YA==,GB,,1501524950 135660556,135687728,2017-07-31 18:15:51,">>135687297 Then let them do it or fight against it. If other large corporations decide they do not agree with their policy and they get boycotted then they plummet to the bottom for another business to take its place. They still have to please the people paying them to some degree.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501524951 135660556,135687956,2017-07-31 18:18:01,">>135687329 No, there's no way you could do that in an an-cap society. Why? You simply are not good enough for the job. You can fix this problem without a government and at the same time make a living and profit off of. Corporations care about making money, if people will not give them money because they are not trusted then it's a dying corporation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525081 135660556,135687979,2017-07-31 18:18:12,">>135687621 And you worship the government you fucking panzy",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525092 135660556,135687994,2017-07-31 18:18:21,">>135687728 In one week two airplane companies (out of two delivering this route) beat two people out of the planes. Which one was the better one to choose? Theoretical competition is not real competition. If the paid cop doesn't show up, it doesn't matter for me because I'm dead and they simply swallow the fines, because they would never so huge to make a dent.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525101 135660556,135688018,2017-07-31 18:18:35,">>135687330 I'm honestly not a fan of Rand either, but I know a few frequent posters here are.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501525115 135660556,135688067,2017-07-31 18:19:11,">>135687956 >if people will not give them money because they are not trusted then it's a dying corporation. Name one corporation you trust today",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501525151 135660556,135688098,2017-07-31 18:19:30,">>135687667 Yes, it is. Inflationary currency benefits whoever prints it. Deflationary currency benefits those who hold it. A thousand of currencies could exist, or some people would use gold or silver, or any form of cryptocurrency. They wouldn't chose something that devaluates. In the first moments there could be some currencies to chose from, but it's hard to deal with multiple currencies, people will hold what most benefits them and also the most simple to use. In the currency competition, a winner would arise.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501525170 135660556,135688379,2017-07-31 18:22:13,">>135687994 They're a private business. If they want to kick people out it is their decision. You have legs, you have a car, there is other choices for transportation and other airports. If the paid cop doesn't show up then you're fucked. Should fight your own shit without relying on the police to handle it for you. This is not a society for pussies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525333 135660556,135688398,2017-07-31 18:22:23,">>135688098 So they wouldn't spend money, because it's increasing in value. How would the world work then? How would people trade? I wouldn't spend $100 today if it was worth $200 tomorrow, would you?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501525343 135660556,135688485,2017-07-31 18:23:12,">>135687979 >implying implications I use the government strictly for my own ends.",,Anonymous,1500167927061.png,H4pMxdyb11UYKoROZyYbGQ==,,,1501525392 135660556,135688555,2017-07-31 18:23:52,wassup my friends of black and yellow complexion,,Anonymous,lrg vs lp.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,PT,,1501525432 135660556,135688615,2017-07-31 18:24:32,">>135688379 you should watch this https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=JdS6fyUIklI",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501525472 135660556,135688700,2017-07-31 18:25:16,">>135688398 You're making the same argument that Keynes made, ignoring that people need to eat and produce. There is no ""wouldn't spend money,"" you can't delay consumption forever. Also, out of the shitton of worthless digital or paper currencies people would simply flock to gold and silver.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501525516 135660556,135688711,2017-07-31 18:25:20,">>135688398 Of course you prefer to starve instead of spending a cent, because tomorrow you would be 0.000000001% richer! Humanity used gold more more than 2 thousand years, the inflation was low(if you don't consider scenarios like spanish price revolution) and everything worked fine. Technology developed and so on.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501525520 135660556,135688743,2017-07-31 18:25:38,">>135688067 That's a stupid point to make. I ""trust"" a lot of companies and corporations to sell me goods and services they claim to be providing. I don't give a shit if a shirt was made in a sweatshop or if it's GMO foods. Trust has nothing to do with it. I don't need to know everything going on in the background I only care about the end product being what I pay for.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525538 135660556,135688745,2017-07-31 18:25:39,">>135688555 Hello portubro",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501525539 135660556,135688875,2017-07-31 18:26:49,The libertarian party has some faggots in it but I still think the alt right is 1000x gayer,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501525609 135660556,135688883,2017-07-31 18:26:53,">>135687956 That ""corporation are out there to make money"" thing would be true, if anyone would be so pure. Don't you follow economic news? There are lots of huge corporations with soap operas at the top all the time. Large families fighting over control and such things. Some corporations doesn't exists anymore, because they decided to have an unnecessary hissy fit with investors etc. We have seen in Kansas what happens if you follow an idiotic idea to its maximum damage.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525613 135660556,135688908,2017-07-31 18:27:08,Self-Governance requires a Christian-Virtuous People,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501525628 135660556,135689037,2017-07-31 18:28:28,">>135688875 Which people in the libertarian party are not fags?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501525708 135660556,135689103,2017-07-31 18:29:02,">>135688700 Yes, but having 1000s currencies to choose from, I'm sure there would be one that devaluates, because supply-demand >Also, out of the shitton of worthless digital or paper currencies people would simply flock to gold and silver. Exactly, so the currency that doesn't devaluate would be worthless, because no one would need it thanks for proving my point",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501525742 135660556,135689169,2017-07-31 18:29:46,">>135688379 So the answer is basically, optional contracts that aren't worth a shit and you can't count on is the ""new gold standard"". Who wants to life in a society of constants warzones, clans fighting each other and other nonsense? ""I have two snipers can we do this contract?"" ""I have three, sorry, weakling"". BAMM.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525786 135660556,135689191,2017-07-31 18:30:00,">>135689037 dave smith",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501525800 135660556,135689261,2017-07-31 18:30:42,">>135667558 Bullshit. What damage the bartender has caused? If there's damage, he must compensate it to the victims. In any case the bar will not be closed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525842 135660556,135689262,2017-07-31 18:30:42,">>135688883 I fail to see what point you're trying to make. You already included what I'd tell you as a response. >Some corporations doesn't exists anymore, because they decided to have an unnecessary hissy fit with investors etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525842 135660556,135689290,2017-07-31 18:30:58,">>135689191 Dave's alright, but I still qualify him as a borderline fag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501525858 135660556,135689340,2017-07-31 18:31:30,">>135689103 > I'm very smart and live in this ancap world > of course a currency that devaluates is good, I always use this currency that is deflationary making me richer everyday, why not try out these new shiny (((shekels)))?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501525890 135660556,135689343,2017-07-31 18:31:31,">>135689103 dafuq are you talking about? >random losers start emitting random meme coins like ""doge coins"" without no physical backing or scarcity >other smart people start trading with gold and silver, which are finite, and banks form to emit gold and silver certificates >we return to 100% gold standard",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501525891 135660556,135689367,2017-07-31 18:31:46,">>135688743 >I don't need to know everything going on in the background I only care about the end product being what I pay for. That's my point, you don't really know what you pay for. You don't know what's in the food you eat unless you test it in some laboratory, that would inflate the price you pay for food. In the end you only believe that the product you buy is the product you want. That's reality I'm talking about",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501525906 135660556,135689421,2017-07-31 18:32:21,">>135689290 smarmy army nigga",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501525941 135660556,135689423,2017-07-31 18:32:24,">>135660948 I read hoppe argument as monarchy was bad, but democracy is worse. Those who favour monarchy can not be anarchists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501525944 135660556,135689448,2017-07-31 18:32:42,">>135689169 >>135688379 This is nonesense. There is every reason to believe companies will provide a good quality service, this whole argument is memes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501525962 135660556,135689486,2017-07-31 18:33:07,">>135689423 Unless they voluntarily choose to follow a king-pretender and establish a kingdom.",,Anonymous,H A Z L I T T.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,PT,,1501525987 135660556,135689570,2017-07-31 18:34:01,">Who wants to life in a society of constants warzones, clans fighting each other and other nonsense? >>135689169 >>135688555 >>135687979 >>135686966 >>135685867 >>135683555 >>135680148 >>135674349 >>135668813 >>135662123 >>135660948 (Us)",,Anonymous,,,,,1501526041 135660556,135689684,2017-07-31 18:35:09,">>135689423 Are we really anarchists? the definition being ""no rulers"" Don't we want absolute rulership over our property?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501526109 135660556,135689708,2017-07-31 18:35:24,">>135689423 >Those who favour monarchy can not be anarchists. Why not?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501526124 135660556,135689919,2017-07-31 18:37:34,">>135689367 I mean... I see nothing wrong with what you're saying. This falls in line with an an-cap society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501526254 135660556,135690094,2017-07-31 18:39:24,">>135689448 And we look around with one scandal every day (at least) and dream that ""humans will learn and change to fit in our narrative"". This whole thread is the same old ""it will be different, just believe us"" shit. Use cars if you don't want to fly, if you need meds and don't want, cut off you arm, if he annoys you pay the paid cop the fine to look away so you can kill him. Dystopia welcomes you with a pumpgun.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501526364 135660556,135690097,2017-07-31 18:39:27,">>135689448 Remember Mad Cow Disease? Most companies doesn't care about quality, they only care about sales, ans if you don't know how sales work then you're a bit naive",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501526367 135660556,135690208,2017-07-31 18:40:30,">>135690094 ??? >>135690097 >If you have even the tiniest understanding of economics, you're naive Read Mises.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501526430 135660556,135690250,2017-07-31 18:41:04,">>135689708 >>135689486 >they voluntarily choose to follow a king-pretender The key is VOLUNTARY. Power is defined as an ability to make people act some way against their will. Mon-acrhy - archy means power. If people follow some leader voluntarily, he is not an mon_arch. Just a leader.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501526464 135660556,135690264,2017-07-31 18:41:12,">>135689684 The etymological origin of the word anarchy is more about no forced rulers. People who had others voluntarily subjecting themselves to their rule were not ""Archon"" in ancient Greece, only the politicians were.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501526472 135660556,135690280,2017-07-31 18:41:22,">>135690097 > certification companies cannot exist Man, you were refuted several times, stop shilling this thread.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501526482 135660556,135690313,2017-07-31 18:41:41,>(((libertarianism))),,Anonymous,,,US,,1501526501 135660556,135690333,2017-07-31 18:41:52,"Does it worth see the three Atlas Revelion movies, or those movies are crap?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501526512 135660556,135690520,2017-07-31 18:43:57,">>135690333 They're pure crap, don't watch. I can't count how many string were left untied.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501526637 135660556,135690562,2017-07-31 18:44:28,">>135690097 The toll station company went forcibly bankrupt because they overcharged for years. The new corp says they have nothing to do with the old one. Has a clause in their contract that you can't get them to court if the overcharge is less then 5% of your yearly payment. They may or may not give you your money back. Its time to build new roads, its the only ""solution"" to this legalized criminal bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501526668 135660556,135690593,2017-07-31 18:44:47,">>135690250 Okay then, but you get our point.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501526687 135660556,135690600,2017-07-31 18:44:51,">>135690264 Do you have a sauce for this? I've never seen an etymology that describes it any further than ""no rulers"" not implying whether voluntary or not. Does ruling imply force without consent?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501526691 135660556,135690712,2017-07-31 18:45:57,">>135689684 >Don't we want absolute rulership over our property? We want our OUR property, but we must respect another's property residing on ours. We can not rule people on our property, cause they still belong to themselves. Their cars on our road are still their property. We can only ask them to leave our property or expel, remove physically from it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501526757 135660556,135690853,2017-07-31 18:47:24,">>135690208 Ok, I see you're naive I'll give you example how sales work There's few companies in UK that sell food to bars, restaurants, hotels, schools, hospitals, etc. the bigger the customer the bigger the contract so they make trade deals, and if you don't know how to make trade deals read >the book basically, i will sell you this and that for this cheap, but you will have to buy some coca-cola even if you don't want it, and you gonna have to buy something every so and so in short trade deals are BRUTAL but all you guys think of trading is consumer shopping, which is fucking ridiculous way of thinking, sorry",,Anonymous,587c5f59-c64d-4ce7-8c56-cca3519eb1b8.jpg,csO/z+K8asaIJ+T2v9SjyQ==,PL,,1501526844 135660556,135690874,2017-07-31 18:47:39,">>135690520 Well I will have to read the 1000 pages of the book then",,Anonymous,,,,,1501526859 135660556,135690965,2017-07-31 18:48:45,">>135690562 So, you got scammed and screwed over. I don't think anyone here is claiming this wouldn't happen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501526925 135660556,135691081,2017-07-31 18:49:55,">>135690874 It's good if you're into trash movies.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501526995 135660556,135691086,2017-07-31 18:49:58,">>135690280 >>>135690097 (You) >> certification companies cannot exist >Man, you were refuted several times, stop shilling this thread. >bribery and corruption doesn't exist wake up man, I want realistic discussion, not some delusional circlejerk",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501526998 135660556,135691282,2017-07-31 18:51:58,">>135691086 Who can bribe who? Competition really hates free money out of a scandal with a certification company that let shit pass as legit products.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501527118 135660556,135691325,2017-07-31 18:52:17,">>135690853 How is this point even remotely related to your original point of >>135690097 I don't understand how explaining trade agreements between two companies is supposed to prove that they don't have quality or standards expected from both parties. You're making no sense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501527137 135660556,135691351,2017-07-31 18:52:33,">>135690965 No, we are claiming that in the ""other reality"" this is reality and expected. This is how people in third world countries feel every day, because there is no solution for this. Resources are limited, mechanics of things are obscure. At least we can get, sometimes, some of them into jail. In the other world, the would point to the ""we will scam you"" part of the contract. And that is it. Their freedom supersedes yours, they have more men, more guns, more lawyers, more willingness to be a shitty to get this cent more out of everybody. Its a negative society by its foundations.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501527153 135660556,135691549,2017-07-31 18:54:32,">>135691282 Change the name. Claim its was the fault of lower people, who got the boot (eg. paid to not whistleblow about the racket). Rinse. Repeat. Not one banker of the biggest banks in the US went ever to jail for bank related frauds. They only got the guys in investment banking that where free wheeling and not protected by the clans.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501527272 135660556,135691571,2017-07-31 18:54:46,">>135690600 Source for what? Etymologically anarchy is no archon, and archons were the magistrates in ancient Greece city state. https://www.britannica.com/topic/archon-ancient-Greek-magistrate Notice how a potter with apprentice was not an archon, or the leader of the Peripatetic school, people with others under their command in a voluntary manner were not Archons.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501527286 135660556,135691655,2017-07-31 18:55:34,">>135690562 That's a grat example of how flawed ancap is how many roads you can have between cities? only limited number what keeps one corporation from owning all of them? nothing because there's no regulation price for travel can be fucking killing you, because there's always someone with more money than you, wow, when i got into this thread i was almost ancap supporter, now i see what delusional shit it is, and I'm not even trolling",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501527334 135660556,135692035,2017-07-31 18:59:18,">>135691549 Nice, good to know that the issue was solved so correctly. Now, at least we are sure that no one will ever go to jail for the keynesian policies imposed on US citizens. Rinse. Repeat. I'm not stating that anarcho-capitalism is flawless, I'm trying to argue that these problems are solved more easily without so much damage. Problems would be smaller, but they'd still exist.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501527558 135660556,135692122,2017-07-31 19:00:19,">>135691351 If you're playing the victim role then you shouldn't be surprised when you get fucked over every step of the way and find yourself cucked or in a casket. They have options to work with what is available. It is their choice to do so or not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501527619 135660556,135692335,2017-07-31 19:02:34,">>135691655 Worldwide we see scams daily and still people claim that ""corps are to make money to to scam people"". Its practically inevitable. These humans have the tendencies to make the quick buck, and accept the blowback because there is usually none.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501527754 135660556,135692388,2017-07-31 19:03:08,">>135692035 >Problems would be smaller, I argue they'd be bigger",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501527788 135660556,135692421,2017-07-31 19:03:32,">>135691655 >be mega rich corporation >buy all roads >kill anyone that uses roads >go bankrupt cause people do not use our monopoly of roads",,Anonymous,,,,,1501527812 135660556,135692424,2017-07-31 19:03:33,">>135691655 This works agains the interest of the road owner because the region won't develop with this trasit limitation. With money flowing to other areas, they'd change their mind eventually.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501527813 135660556,135692431,2017-07-31 19:03:36,">>135691571 Makes sense, they were statesmen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501527816 135660556,135692563,2017-07-31 19:04:52,">>135692421 > with every purchase, other's roads price goes up > suddenly, more wealth than was ever produced my humanity is needed to buy the remaining roads",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501527892 135660556,135692604,2017-07-31 19:05:17,">>135692035 Its not illegal to see 4,99% interest and say ""we keep it at 4,99%"" too. And then buy off everybody who offers 5,99%"". We have defacto cartels, defacto monopolies in every industry, the gov is weak. And now add their personal armies and the ""solution"" for many of there problems is a hefty body count, as described in bad scifi books.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501527917 135660556,135692685,2017-07-31 19:06:04,">>135692421 No, you forget most people are poor, commercial transport between cities would keep the road company alive you'd be a prisoner of your private city, and work slave-wage because can't move out",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501527964 135660556,135692748,2017-07-31 19:06:41,How much pozz load do you have to take in order to be a kikebertarian in the current year?,,Anonymous,,,,,1501528001 135660556,135692832,2017-07-31 19:07:29,">>135692748 >this coming from a Maoist",,Anonymous,1433.png,9RogssL4q/J5EqxEZxqPiA==,PT,,1501528049 135660556,135692929,2017-07-31 19:08:26,">>135692424 People don't move as often. A degeneration of places, cough Detroit, is not enough to offset the earnings of getting things to the shitter in the long end. I never see the realities ever playing out this way. Its always the bad option that happens.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501528106 135660556,135693129,2017-07-31 19:10:47,">>135692604 Obviously, not as big as a government body count. >>135692685 No city can have a single owner. Every city is private, belonging to each person that makes up the city. Also, >>135692424 >>135692929 Detroit is the bad timeline. US just don't have a strong enough economy now to get over it and solve this problem.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501528247 135660556,135693165,2017-07-31 19:11:19,">>135691086 I mean you accuse us of being a delusional circlejerk, but your entire argument today has been completely irrationa distrust of corporations. It's completely ignorant of the market and of the principles of human action.",,Anonymous,disdain_for_plebs.jpg,4Ec3GualFxwRtlvxT/lRgQ==,GB,,1501528279 135660556,135693302,2017-07-31 19:12:42,">>135692685 >Commercial transport between cities would keep road company alive >Somehow this makes you a slave wage Just move. Sell everything to the highest bidder and gtfo. Don't like what their doing? Leave. You are not forced to stay anywhere.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501528362 135660556,135693353,2017-07-31 19:13:13,">>135693165 No it isn't My argument is based on REALITY and HUMAN NATURE",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501528393 135660556,135693554,2017-07-31 19:15:19,">>135693353 Then why are you so ignorant of how humans act in relation to goods and services?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501528519 135660556,135693653,2017-07-31 19:16:19,">>135693302 The perfect human in your world is a guy with no ties, no friends, no place to call home, but his Harley, an dog and a pumpgun. As soon you have kids, school, a life, everything, things tend to get very complicated. Just shrugging off any sort of rip off and wrong doing can be a base of a ""future society"", the question is: is it better that your friend died because because the paid cop didn't show up? Shits happens, this is freedom!",,Anonymous,,,,,1501528579 135660556,135693702,2017-07-31 19:16:52,">>135692929 You are comparing a shithole with a forced government to one without government or restrictions. This is not a good analogy and is far from an an-cap society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501528612 135660556,135693747,2017-07-31 19:17:25,">>135693302 >You are not forced to stay anywhere. It's not so simple if you have a family >>135693353 >>135693554 >Then why are you so ignorant of how humans act in relation to goods and services? I'm not, but you seems to be, I gave you real life example of how brutal a trade deal can be, you give me nothing, except for wishful thinking",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501528645 135660556,135693951,2017-07-31 19:19:27,">>135693554 ""I paid for that seat in the airplane"" said the guy who was refused service and lost his front teeth.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501528767 135660556,135694035,2017-07-31 19:20:09,">>135693653 If you want to play the victim and say it's not your friends fault or your own for not protecting him then sure. If your community is that important to you then you can organize a mass migration to another town. Again this society is about freedom and what you can do with what that means.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501528809 135660556,135694085,2017-07-31 19:20:45,">>135693747 The example is irrelevant. Sure, ok, buisness deals can be bad? What does this have to do with government, or anarchy, or the economy, etc? What point are you making? >>135693951 Idiot should have read the contract. Or even better, should have got off the plane when asked, and received proper compensation. He had an incredibly shady background anyway - drug dealer, or something.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501528845 135660556,135694178,2017-07-31 19:21:45,">>135693653 Also, I forgot to include those deaths that occur by government omission and nonsense muhfeelings laws. The perfect human for a ancap society is one with strong family ties, so he can be a stable well-born individual and preserve his patrimony. A good mind for problem solving is also good, with which we all can improve our standard of living by using more effective production technologies. Sure, you can deny this to your friend, he'll like your bitterness.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501528905 135660556,135694226,2017-07-31 19:22:14,">>135660556 >OP pic Who is the man between Hoppe and Mises?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501528934 135660556,135694264,2017-07-31 19:22:38,">>135694085 >The example is irrelevant No, the example is relevant, if you have no example you talk bs let's keep it real",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501528958 135660556,135694272,2017-07-31 19:22:44,">>135693951 A cucked government society divided and unable to enforce a level of standard they all expect to have is just that. Worthless. Every single person sympathizes with the man yet they all do not march off the airplane and demand their money back.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501528964 135660556,135694284,2017-07-31 19:22:51,"I will ask this again Does libertarians can work in a bank or in the financial sector?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1501528971 135660556,135694324,2017-07-31 19:23:19,">>135693702 I compare reality with a WEAK government when big money/and or clans are involved. You believe that Walmart will not instantly have their own Walmart cops you will protect them instead of you? If you want to be sure, you have to come with your own armed ""protection"" and thus this ends up in a clan based economy. I don't say this must end up being a shit hole. But I say that without them knowing that you can cause them lots of trouble, no balance of power will arise. Meaning, you have to be in a clan for survival. I don't consider this freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501528999 135660556,135694332,2017-07-31 19:23:23,">>135694226 People keep saying it's Friedman, but I've also heard it cited as Ralph Raico. >>135694264 Can you explain to me how it's relevant then?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501529003 135660556,135694481,2017-07-31 19:24:56,">>135693747 I explained the family matter with >>135694035 This is about freedom not about simple solutions and easy decisions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501529096 135660556,135694494,2017-07-31 19:25:02,">identifying as a libertarians >not favoring open boarders",,Anonymous,montybig.jpg,YIrTOzKse0fj/bMzsTtq2w==,GB,,1501529102 135660556,135694547,2017-07-31 19:25:40,">>135661761 Sounds alot like feudalism. Except kings peace is denied, so feudal lords can fuck over the serfs even harder.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1501529140 135660556,135694572,2017-07-31 19:25:51,">>135694035 I have no problems with theoreticals, but I don't see the transition from ""now"" to a whole truckload of them. ""If he doesn't want to sell you bread then leave town"", ""if he attacks you and your paid cop doesn't show up have secondary contracts and a sniper on hold"" etc. I just don't see how this layers of layers of ""freedom"" to be ripped off (as today) is any more different than today.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501529151 135660556,135694730,2017-07-31 19:27:42,">>135694332 Because I want to keep it real, not wishful thinking trading in business is brutal, it's like a war, the winner is the one who can grab more and kill more it's not about exchanging goods, it's about growing in power, killing your competitors, it's basically anarchy you love so much and now tell me, do you own company, or you just work for one? because if you work for one, you are just larping about ancap,",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501529262 135660556,135694846,2017-07-31 19:28:56,">>135694324 >Describing nationality and countries >Doesn't consider it freedom We are in agreement then. I don't consider this freedom either. If you are not strong you will be picked apart by those who you let walk all over you. You're describing problems that happen in our society right now and saying it's going to happen in an an-cap society too. Of course it will nobody is saying otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501529336 135660556,135694862,2017-07-31 19:29:02,">>135694730 I still don't see your fucking point. Buisness deals can be brutal, ok, but how is this related to anarcho-capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501529342 135660556,135694906,2017-07-31 19:29:43,">>135694284 Anons please respond this And this: can a financial advisor be a libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1501529383 135660556,135694923,2017-07-31 19:29:57,">>135694178 The left tried this. Ideal man thing. Goes out and gets the potatoes for the others. Here is another projected image that has nothing to do with reality. As self employed I have seen to many people who where on the right track not having the guts, the mind, the readyness to tackle what was thrown at them, and went for shortcuts for their own demise. If the shortcut is their sniper against mine, I don't see the ""more freedom"" part besides hoping not needing to deal with others outside the inner circle (which is unrealistic).",,Anonymous,,,,,1501529397 135660556,135694950,2017-07-31 19:30:14,">>135694481 It seems like a life that's filled with fighting for you rights, not much time left for freedom you want. you should really watch that movie >>135688615",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501529414 135660556,135695069,2017-07-31 19:31:34,">>135660556 neo libtards are cancer of the planet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfxqZagHXbM",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1501529494 135660556,135695103,2017-07-31 19:31:54,">>135694547 You're onto something",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501529514 135660556,135695123,2017-07-31 19:32:09,">>135694272 The stayed on the airplane because all of them (as said by the NY Times) had jobs they had to return to and this was the only flight left. Everytime someone doesn't provide the services they sell you find a argumentative loophole why this is right, and then you turn around and say ""these people want to make money and care if they are depicted badly"". What is it? Do they care? Are they trustworthy to render services? You can't have it all, because its clearly not happening.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501529529 135660556,135695235,2017-07-31 19:33:22,">>135694572 The biggest difference is no governing force that pushes agenda's, rules, regulations, and the ability to view their own form of reality and conforment. A lot of the capitalist portion already in society will exist in an an-cap society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501529602 135660556,135695246,2017-07-31 19:33:30,>>135683854,,Anonymous,ancap is best anarchy.png,Bk+SrYj/j+K8wvi7Ig7jFQ==,US,,1501529610 135660556,135695438,2017-07-31 19:35:32,">>135694923 No, Mr. Rat Memory, you said the perfect ancap citizen would be a guy with no friends and no homeland, only void properties he acquired living in a society that would not care for him when is exactly the situation the democratic government created in the West.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501529732 135660556,135695525,2017-07-31 19:36:37,">>135694846 >If you are not strong you will be picked apart by those who you let walk all over you You're describing 90% of society.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501529797 135660556,135695703,2017-07-31 19:38:13,">>135694950 Are you trying to suggest we're not fighting for our rights right now and need the government to prove what they are right now? So many decisions are made without you by the government for you. How is this better than the ability to fight for yourself what you feel is your right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501529893 135660556,135695838,2017-07-31 19:39:32,">>135695235 I see that. And I see that in a ""civil society"" that doesn't want to run around with m16s and bullet proof vests will have some rules everybody agrees with. Until they don't. Today I can have the expectation that at least the basic services aren't working against me. If he is the only doctor at Christmas and my wife is dying, he asks for everything I have and then buys an House at the other end of the country. Today I have reasonable protection against that. You have none and call it ""his freedom to do that and yours to let your wife die to be right"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1501529972 135660556,135696113,2017-07-31 19:42:05,">>135695438 In the West there is a social net, even its a shitty one it works (Foods stamps for example). In the other reality, if you can survive and the guy kicks your teeth out instead providing the food stamps program you have a contract with you simply die.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501530125 135660556,135696120,2017-07-31 19:42:13,">>135695123 ""They"" are run by people all with varying different cultures and mindsets each different from the next. So, all of these questions can be answered as yes and no. You have the freedom to organize a protest however you want to accomplish your goal of telling the airport to fuck off. Freedom is not a loophole and has a very broad meaning. This is what we want.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501530133 135660556,135696220,2017-07-31 19:43:14,">>135694494 >Falling for the forced integration jew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501530194 135660556,135696350,2017-07-31 19:44:27,">>135695103 Well feudalism was decentralized. The King was supposed to represent the commons to counterbalance local lords. Those lords had their private courts, private armies, private roads, private castles, peivate slaves, etc. It failed in France, when the local lords were overtaken by the king and it failed in England, when the local lords overtook the King. For stable country you need a balance between commons and private property",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1501530267 135660556,135696408,2017-07-31 19:45:07,">>135695838 Everything you just explained happens in modern societies right now though minus the guns and vests. For some reason you think we're living in a civil society right now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501530307 135660556,135696437,2017-07-31 19:45:35,">>135696120 At least its realistic that you would say ""fuck airport"", lose your job, maybe being market as someone ""who speaks up at contract meetings"" etc. until your ""freedom"" is marked in any database that you are too much to make deals with. then its build your own airplane or never fly again, never work again, all on your own (or your own clan). You are still believing the corps you are dealing with in that reality wouldn't work against you as they do today. Skip one payment, your freedom bites you in the ass. But I respect that you are willing to go this to the end. At least its consistent, even its dead ugly from a society standpoint.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501530335 135660556,135696459,2017-07-31 19:45:48,">>135695703 Well, maybe I'm trying to understand how having private infrastructure is better to having public one. And since we speak about world without corruption, the government (which is basically made of appointed people of free society) is making sure the infrastructure is affordable and accessible to everyone living in this society, not just those who can pay for it. I assume we all know what infrastructure includes.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501530348 135660556,135696634,2017-07-31 19:47:35,">>135696113 Yes, good luck trying not to pay taxes. No, way better than that, why not pay taxes for another population to replace you? They can live and breed through welfare with your money! Yay! Food it so cheap today that with deflation, which means high buying power, and inovation, surely the only society that would starve is an ancap society, because socialism can't do it. Bring real arguments or stop.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501530455 135660556,135696685,2017-07-31 19:48:07,">>135696408 Hm, I don't hear much about widespread murdering going on and scandals about cops taking bribes to look the other way as a business model, but I might be not current on these things. Maybe because now its ""illegal"" and later ""just a stupid contract dispute and he had an 'accident' on the way of the paid court to report this"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1501530487 135660556,135697160,2017-07-31 19:52:19,">>135696634 You never really counter argument, you just switch places. I said ""I die when the contract providing me food screws me"" and you change over to tax paying. You have no clue how the other world works without a serious change how the people think and act. And as we see today, every simply transaction thingy is corrupt and criminal, we just don't see it or we don't care. There are no pure deals. Everybody has agenda. You just hate ""government"" as an actor. You will be ""ok"" with the other clan with more guns taking your stuff because ""thats freedom, that how I want to go out"". Thats not a concept, thats mass suicide.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501530739 135660556,135697191,2017-07-31 19:52:42,">>135696459 Dude, you're trying to argue things many of us have already covered including myself. I really don't feel like explaining it to you again. Read up above for your answer.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501530762 135660556,135697326,2017-07-31 19:53:53,">>135696634 Mocking is not an argument besides you're talking about corruption, not the system itself Ancap is much more open to exploitation by crime gangs",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501530833 135660556,135697450,2017-07-31 19:55:03,">>135696685 Now you're thinking like an an-cap.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501530903 135660556,135697479,2017-07-31 19:55:19,">>135697191 >I really don't feel like explaining it to you again. Have a good night, it was great discussion.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501530919 135660556,135697737,2017-07-31 19:57:41,">>135696459 Read up cato.org as second source. They have quite extensive material which is not so extreme.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501531061 135660556,135697740,2017-07-31 19:57:42,"Well, I guess Republic 1 : 0 Ancap I gtg now, see you guys next time",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501531062 135660556,135697917,2017-07-31 19:59:26,">>135697160 >You will be ""ok"" with the other clan with more guns taking your stuff because ""thats freedom, that how I want to go out"". No, this is the government and that's exactly why they don't let me have guns. The food contract? Who the fuck signs a contract to buy chinese food for an entire year? You don't want to eat the same thing everyday and many people know how to make food, you chose one or you make your own. I don't understand what's the problem here. The police contract? They not only care about your security, but about your property rising value, because this will rise the amount they can charge for security. If my property is worth more, I can pay more. A company that provides this kind of service also cares about immigration, guns, nuclear weapons, but mostly, about their clients. >>135697326 > exploitation by crime gangs No, this is the government.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501531166 135660556,135698007,2017-07-31 20:00:22,">>135697737 Thanks but I don't like think-tanks, it's like subscribing to Alex Jones channel",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501531222 135660556,135698032,2017-07-31 20:00:39,">>135674716 >everything I don't like is a spook",,Anonymous,,,,,1501531239 135660556,135698124,2017-07-31 20:01:34,">>135696459 >how having private infrastructure is better to having public one. Public infrastructure is subject to the Tragedy of the commons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons",,Anonymous,,,,,1501531294 135660556,135698187,2017-07-31 20:02:13,">>135697450 Constant fight (the preferred position) or flight is ""a better society""? I have to read up on this, because even you need sleep and the best gunslinger gets too old to survive the next youngest one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501531333 135660556,135698280,2017-07-31 20:03:11,">>135694494 why would someone that wants rights over their property also want open borders? you fucking idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501531391 135660556,135698316,2017-07-31 20:03:32,">>135698124 >The tragedy of the commons is an economic theory of a situation within a shared-resource system where individual users acting independently according to their own self-interest behave contrary to the common good of all users by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action. That's basically corruption, how is Ancap resistant to corruption? I really want to go to sleep now",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501531412 135660556,135698438,2017-07-31 20:04:31,">>135697917 > If my property is worth more, I can pay more. Or the powerful clan pays what they would have made plus an uptick, and just kills you all to get your land. If your rule is ""numbers only"" then don't just remove the option that makes more money. Btw you do that the whole thread.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501531471 135660556,135698439,2017-07-31 20:04:32,">>135660556 If you think it's moral to attack people for ""thought-crimes+, you're a leftist.",,Praceteom,,,,,1501531472 135660556,135698457,2017-07-31 20:04:42,">>135698316 Goods are privatized meaning you don't get to enjoy them unless you consent of the owner. And people who own things privately and extract value from them don't like to see their property ruined by overusage.",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1501531482 135660556,135698480,2017-07-31 20:04:56,">>135694494 how fucking retarded you really sound >why wouldnt communist want to have open borders with Nazis >muh idiot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501531496 135660556,135698745,2017-07-31 20:07:26,">>135698316 It's better dealing with corruption than governments. >>135698438 How could they kill an entire population of insured citizens? This would not only kill their reputation, but the productivity that mantains their spot in society. It's retarded to think this would happen. Again, the only clan doing this is the governemnt.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501531646 135660556,135698806,2017-07-31 20:07:59,">>135698457 Simplistic. Maybe you have the only limited resource everybody is depended on. Then you can let it go to the shitters and keep the uptick to the minimum. That's the reason why much of America looks like an back alley in the Middle East. Sometimes you have to take the shit (housing for example).",,Anonymous,,,,,1501531679 135660556,135698870,2017-07-31 20:08:33,">>135698457 That's why we have a common law if you destroy public property you are committing crime same difference, only now you can e.g. enjoy national parks in ancap they would be private",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501531713 135660556,135699169,2017-07-31 20:11:12,">>135698745 > This would not only kill their reputation, but the productivity that mantains their spot in society. You putting to much weight on stuff nobody cares on. Reputation of Americas cable companies are below height of dog poop for 10 years now. Who cares? Seemingly nobody. There are only a few competitors and they play the game very good to get ""rid"" of those who get too powerful. I would agree in theory, but the reality shows shit piling on shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501531872 135660556,135699556,2017-07-31 20:14:49,">>135699169 Add guns with everyone as paranoiac as you. It's literally impossible to take over. Reality is of shit being shit on shit of couse, democracy tends to ""correct"" mistakes with mistakes and it surely stinks.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501532089 135660556,135699765,2017-07-31 20:16:46,">>135698870 Yes, but the people who enter would be far less. For example, if you're a tourist or an ilegal allien (or any other type of non-tax payer, as for the matter) and you step foot in a country, you are contributing to the problem if you litter and damage public property. Hoppe has a very good summation of this argument in Democracy (see the OP post). The Chapter is called, if I recall correctly, On Free Trade and Restricted Immigration. >>135698806 Or you end welfare and enforce property rights and you don't need state-mandated public housing.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501532206 135660556,135700597,2017-07-31 20:24:39,">>135699765 >Or you end welfare and enforce property rights >and you don't need state-mandated public >housing. Is there free land for the free man to own or is this just another ploy for another kind of slavery? Also, how do enforce property rights without a government? The corporation you have a contract with will cheat you when the attacker who wants your property has better ""arguments"" then you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501532679 135660556,135700914,2017-07-31 20:27:29,">>135699556 I lived in many places in Europe, and I had never any situation where I thought ""oh, this is going to the shits really fast"". Not one. Was in Florida, Texas, NY, every time we managed to get into some parts of towns where either cops, locals, security guards told us ""tourists"" to turn around and go the other way. Something is going to the shitters there, and since most of the counties and cities are broke anyway, it must be the HUMANS that cause it to become shit places. There is no governmental paper pusher running around and breaking windows and spraying walls.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501532849 135660556,135700953,2017-07-31 20:27:51,">>135700597 >Is there free land for the free man to own or is this just another ploy for another kind of slavery? As long as there are open frontiers, you can homestead it. >but all the land is already taken Seasteading. It's already happening >Also, how do enforce property rights without a government? The corporation you have a contract with will cheat you when the attacker who wants your property has better ""arguments"" then you. Good corporations don't drop their customers without good reasons. Also, don't assume faceless multinationals will take over all protection, insurance and housing markets. Don't forget local housing associations, neighbors' groups, covenants, charter cities with specific conditions of entering, etc.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501532871 135660556,135701182,2017-07-31 20:29:54,">>135696459 It has to do with the use of force. When you use force to pay for infrastructure, you have an unfair profit advantage against peaceful agents. This creates a situation where you don't risk losing you abuse your ""beneficent monopoly."" It is a terrible idea to provide infrastructure below market prices. >>135698316 Note that this doesn't break down because of corruption. You can have good people in the system, but the system is incapable of acting efficiently long term. This is because state use of force bypasses price signals. This is important enough to repeat. States can ignore price signals. Different parts of the economy have to talk to each other if you want it to be efficient. Prices are how different sectors talk to each other. Not only do you ignore those signals, but you send out false signals that make the economy less efficient. It's hardly efficient for millions of people to commute for an hour each day, but the ""good"" of providing cheap roads creates this effect. It would be more efficient to charge market prices, and if you're doing this anyway, you don't need a state. On the topic of the tragedy of the commons, this has NOTHING to do with corruption and everything to do with rational individual behavior; and you're retarded for interpreting this otherwise. If you are drinking out of your own glass of water, then you can choose to drink it all at once or you can choose to drink a little at a time, saving it for later, or even to give some away as charity. But in situations where you drink out of a common glass, decision theory plainly states that the rational choice for each actor is to drink as much as possible as quickly as possible. Public infrastructure creates a problem where goods are rivalrous and non-excludable. The way you make things excludable is by privatization.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501532994 135660556,135701410,2017-07-31 20:31:56,"So, learned a little, little too much evasion and ""experimenting"" the arguments, but I have to get to my morning shift in two hours. Keep it up, it was interesting!",,Anonymous,,,,,1501533116 135660556,135701449,2017-07-31 20:32:15,">>135700914 Then governments cannot fail even though they are made up by humans? You speak in a way so stupid that makes your argument stupid by virtue of typing it. Can't the government fail? Can't you accept the fact that all economic crisis and severe starvation issues were all caused by govenments? Is this moral? Is theft moral if the government does it?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501533135 135660556,135703023,2017-07-31 20:48:08,bump,,Anonymous,AIRBOURNE_LEW.png,iYmwYP5NxWA/Gk3IB7qjaA==,US,,1501534088 135660556,135703231,2017-07-31 20:50:09,">>135703023 based Lew btw I think we should take Friedman off our OP pic, since Mises (or Rothbard) called him one of the greatest threats to liberty because of his support of (((central bank))) monetary policies.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501534209 135660556,135703353,2017-07-31 20:51:26,">>135660556 How many of the pepe's in that pic are hook nosed jews you fucking faggot?",,.,,,,,1501534286 135660556,135703414,2017-07-31 20:52:05,">>135703353 About tree fiddy",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501534325 135660556,135703523,2017-07-31 20:53:15,200 years of Libertarian history destroyed in a single image.,,Anonymous,Hole-Road.jpg,UVk1HlCAQ2TkKzRBaVaIRg==,SI,,1501534395 135660556,135703658,2017-07-31 20:54:37,">>135703231 yeah I'd do that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501534477 135660556,135706125,2017-07-31 21:18:46,">>135703231 gotcha",,Anonymous,Untitled-1.png,Ax4FLg4PngGMKJwJomWgCQ==,US,,1501535926 135660556,135706277,2017-07-31 21:20:30,">>135706125 Instantly improved. Now I'd take Rand out as well, but this is enough for one day. Thanks",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501536030 135660556,135706502,2017-07-31 21:22:53,">>135706125 >>135706277 Can you name all of them pls? I don't recognize some",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501536173 135660556,135706599,2017-07-31 21:23:51,">>135706277 I did make a quick strict orthodoxy one.",,Anonymous,Untitled-2.png,FpwYzRQR4WsctIz4Crw/NQ==,US,,1501536231 135660556,135706743,2017-07-31 21:25:10,">>135706502 Rothbard, Ayn rand, Ron Paul, Hoppe, Bastiat, mises, and hayek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501536310 135660556,135706754,2017-07-31 21:25:17,">>135706502 Left to Right Rothbard Rand Ron Paul Hoppe Bastait Mises Hayek",,Anonymous,Ancap_2.jpg,jAu8PsgucJkzlk9veoZnfQ==,US,,1501536317 135660556,135706758,2017-07-31 21:25:19,">>135706599 Thank you! Amazing trilogy. >>135706502 left to right: Rothbard, Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, Hoppe, Bastiat, Mises, Hayek",,Anonymous,oklahoma_00000.png,KEuM2GcV22Axk1mMIn6FgA==,PT,,1501536319 135660556,135706797,2017-07-31 21:25:44,">>135706754 >>135706758 ha, nerds. I beat you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501536344 135660556,135706923,2017-07-31 21:26:45,">>135706797 That you did. Very fast responses nonetheless",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501536405 135660556,135706928,2017-07-31 21:26:47,">>135706599 I'd love one of our paleo crew",,Anonymous,file.png,P+D+0O8FdidFrS8lH6Svrw==,GB,,1501536407 135660556,135707029,2017-07-31 21:27:39,">>135706797 good one >>135706928 seconding this. ""Paleo and mean""",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501536459 135660556,135707146,2017-07-31 21:28:40,">>135706743 >>135706754 >>135706758 Thanks, I missed Paul.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501536520 135660556,135707201,2017-07-31 21:29:15,">>135706928 you got it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501536555 135660556,135707284,2017-07-31 21:30:02,">>135706928 >>135707029 >>135707201 Do we have a Llewellyn pepe?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501536602 135660556,135707462,2017-07-31 21:31:44,">>135707284 nah, I gotta make it.",,Anonymous,Lewposting.jpg,uddMsf/u7NcLyyLphf3F5g==,US,,1501536704 135660556,135707617,2017-07-31 21:33:10,">>135707462 the fuck is this? this isn't my lewposting pic.",,Anonymous,TUCKED.png,fiIObhMzcRg3DLvHKW6cVg==,US,,1501536790 135660556,135707789,2017-07-31 21:34:48,">>135706928 These glasses are so AESTHETIC !",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann Hoppe retrowave.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,,,1501536888 135660556,135707791,2017-07-31 21:34:50,">>135707617 when you post a pic at the exact same time as another anon they sometimes switch. Another anon on this site now posted a Lew Rockwell pic KEK",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501536890 135660556,135708025,2017-07-31 21:37:03,">>135707791 nice.",,Anonymous,Lewposting.jpg,uddMsf/u7NcLyyLphf3F5g==,US,,1501537023 135745022,135745022,2017-08-01 05:39:48,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists serious about ending the state and not just smoking weed, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists, anti-communist militants like ya boy Oscar Perez. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Locke, Smith, the Founding Fathers, Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Thomas Sowell, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - MI GENERAL EDITION,Slovakbro on Vacation,hoppe pol logo.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,GB,,1501565988 135745022,135745087,2017-08-01 05:41:17,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The rightful owners of public property (including borders) are the victims of taxation. Therefore nobody can benefit from that land save for them. Eventually this issue would be solved by full privatisation, but that's still far in the future. Also we don't like brown people. >(((Capitalism))) Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >What about roads? Since companies need infrastructure to transport their goods to reach people who in turn need infrastructure for their own needs, this system of mutual dependence is the incentive for any faggot with a steamrol-nah I'm just fucking with you. (((Roads))) are the asphalt Jew that limits evaporation from the soil and gives kids autism. We take helicopters everywhere we go. >LOLBERGTARDIANS R DEGENERATE Degeneracy is a symptom of r-selected individuals within a K-selected society. Just kick them out, their high time preference and negative externalities caused by their presence and behaviour are a good enough reason for their physical removal. No trap harems for you. >What about usury? Banking marketed to ordinary folk was a mistake, so much so that even (((Rothbard))) disapproves of it. End the FED, price war now.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,ancapistan flag.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,GB,,1501566077 135745022,135745130,2017-08-01 05:42:19,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Slovakbro on Vacation,ancap vs ancom frogs.jpg,LIUmiaQnLg1PTUIeHEt3qQ==,GB,,1501566139 135745022,135745180,2017-08-01 05:43:10,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts >youtube.com/user/Morrakiu - youtube.com/channel/UCqAIvs0vAb71x_ZO10HArhA - http://morrakiu.com/ - Morrakiu of TRS and Radical Agenda INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell BANTZ TIER >Jared Howe's faceberg account Fuck Cato. Open borders for Israel.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,ancapball quality.jpg,SOw7K6U2FU1hz3ArJ9BNeg==,GB,,1501566190 135745022,135745220,2017-08-01 05:43:56,"VIDEOS/PODCASTS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=-Yv9JZiaFUg >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Wife with a Purpose - youtube.com/watch?v=_vvikwuyv_I >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/17/radical-agenda-ep302-mike-enoch/ >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/19/radical-agenda-ep303-articulate-black-guy/ >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/24/radical-agenda-ep306-jared-howe/ >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Slovakbro on Vacation,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,GB,,1501566236 135745022,135745240,2017-08-01 05:44:21,>>>/lgbt/,,Anonymous,1499814027004.jpg,KV3ZVOg4F2gTBbvJUFlDBg==,CA,,1501566261 135745022,135745273,2017-08-01 05:44:49,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=ecVvLqSJCK8 >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=Vz_CagU5wjY >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo >Morrakiu - Agreeing with the Liberals for All the Wrong Reasons - youtube.com/watch?v=eASnXIubJEE >LE NEGRO ANARCHIST - MARCHING SONGS FOR MERCENARIES OF ALL ENTERPRISING MEN OF THE WORLD - anarchyinblack.tumblr.com/post/160501747153/radio-ancapistan-marching-songs-for-the-child",,Slovakbro on Vacation,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,GB,,1501566289 135745022,135745399,2017-08-01 05:47:16,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Slovakbro on Vacation,anticom unit.jpg,rRrqNMd9Jq+gOT07WKP9VQ==,GB,,1501566436 135745022,135748059,2017-08-01 06:35:19,The fuck is slovakia doing in a normal timezone?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501569319 135745022,135748103,2017-08-01 06:36:01,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1501569361 135745022,135748138,2017-08-01 06:36:48,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1501569408 135745022,135748284,2017-08-01 06:39:49,"Commies are all about control, kill them before they lay their jew eggs.",,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1501569589 135745022,135748394,2017-08-01 06:41:54,,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1501569714 135745022,135748514,2017-08-01 06:44:10,">>135748138 >Libertarians are social conservatives Please, consider suicide stormfag shill.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501569850 135745022,135748607,2017-08-01 06:45:55,"State enforced ""morality"" is pure degeneracy >>135748514 Go use your freedom to shoot up and suck dicks libertine faggot. Fuck off.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1501569955 135745022,135748814,2017-08-01 06:49:47,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_Quote_BW_2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,US,,1501570187 135745022,135748989,2017-08-01 06:53:01,">>135748514 >Wait? You guys have standards? NAZIS! FUCKING FASCISTS! cancer. Pls die.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501570381 135745022,135749122,2017-08-01 06:55:43,">>135748514 cmon you come from a post-communist shithole you should know better",,Anonymous,,,,,1501570543 135745022,135749312,2017-08-01 06:59:05,I remind you folks to kill commies. It's better that way.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1501570745 135745022,135749383,2017-08-01 07:00:38,">>135748607 >>135748607 >State enforced ""morality"" is pure degeneracy Why did you put morality in quotes, what do you mean by that statement?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501570838 135745022,135749445,2017-08-01 07:01:39,">>135748514 just because we don't want morality enforced by the state doesn't mean we have none, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501570899 135745022,135749675,2017-08-01 07:05:48,">>135749445 There are plenty of Christian conservative Libertarians who do.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501571148 135745022,135749737,2017-08-01 07:06:57,">>135745022 What do you think of the average voter in your country? How would you classify them? How do your countrymen respond to ideas of libertarianism (the idea of no state)?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501571217 135745022,135749744,2017-08-01 07:07:02,">>135749675 If you believe in a state you aren't a Libertarian, cut and dry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501571222 135745022,135749813,2017-08-01 07:08:17,">>135748814 >insurance agencies fighting back against invaders with their own personal armies My dick is diamonds",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501571297 135745022,135749828,2017-08-01 07:08:32,">>135749383 If you force someone to go to church they are not godly, you are infact doing an immoral act. The quotes were to show this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501571312 135745022,135749845,2017-08-01 07:08:48,">>135749744 I'm a minarchist ::))) so idgaf",,no god but Allah,,,,,1501571328 135745022,135749954,2017-08-01 07:10:33,">>135749813 I think more literature has to be dedicated in this regards. I intend to read Hoppe's book on defense but Ancaps needs to lay out the battle plan for a transition to an Ancap society >>135749828 ok still a bit unsure about what you mean though",,no god but Allah,,,,,1501571433 135745022,135749977,2017-08-01 07:11:01,">>135749744 You think social values come from the state. Lol, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501571461 135745022,135750016,2017-08-01 07:11:31,">>135749977 what? when did I say that. reread my posts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501571491 135745022,135750184,2017-08-01 07:14:36,">>135749954 It's in quotes because it's a contradiction. Forcing someone to be moral is not moral. If you do not make the choice yourself how can you be a moral person?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501571676 135745022,135750218,2017-08-01 07:15:13,">>135750016 Maybe Im fucked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501571713 135745022,135750277,2017-08-01 07:16:21,">>135748059 Hey, Slovakia is Greenwich +1, so it's only a one hour difference for me.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501571781 135745022,135750325,2017-08-01 07:17:13,">wake up >hop in lrg >no mark passio",,Anonymous,1459209709473.gif,vgmRQe5iMh3Si0gUVjQa0g==,US,,1501571833 135745022,135750327,2017-08-01 07:17:17,">>135750277 Cool, wassap",,Anonymous,Untitled2.png,FpwYzRQR4WsctIz4Crw/NQ==,US,,1501571837 135745022,135750373,2017-08-01 07:18:05,">>135748514 >standards mean you're a stormfag Hoppe would put Anglin to shame, so please don't associate us with those half-assed folks.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501571885 135745022,135750384,2017-08-01 07:18:16,,,Anonymous,sovereign.jpg,9Tnf4cJk/BQjdrudl8o5QQ==,US,,1501571896 135745022,135750403,2017-08-01 07:18:33,,,Anonymous,slavery.jpg,p5M6av1cG2CPFW3QmZAAtw==,US,,1501571913 135745022,135750419,2017-08-01 07:18:50,,,Anonymous,order followers.jpg,XUdBLYH+kXxBlzFwnsc1ZA==,US,,1501571930 135745022,135750474,2017-08-01 07:19:47,">>135749737 Slovaks are mostly lemmings in favour of social democracy, but the few activists are usually libertarians with conservative tendencies. There's some libcucks and commies, but they don't have enough drive.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501571987 135745022,135750490,2017-08-01 07:20:00,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E,,Anonymous,natural law.png,FgOiALIkdvjC7GxR69Ye1g==,US,,1501572000 135745022,135750529,2017-08-01 07:20:57,,,Anonymous,1499605025342.jpg,0C+nXUKCwqgMtlYohZsrIg==,US,,1501572057 135745022,135750552,2017-08-01 07:21:16,,,Anonymous,federal_reserve_act_of_1913.png,j8hTFBtpvVsND34x3XQ+tw==,US,,1501572076 135745022,135750569,2017-08-01 07:21:37,,,Anonymous,1493576675066.jpg,STeVVec9kPmYSvS0TtrqPQ==,US,,1501572097 135745022,135750594,2017-08-01 07:22:00,,,Anonymous,quote.jpg,255oOGcOBg+CTg6GkqULqw==,US,,1501572120 135745022,135750599,2017-08-01 07:22:06,">>135750327 Brighton is a horrible place, but you'd know that already if you hopped on the Discord.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501572126 135745022,135750606,2017-08-01 07:22:12,">>135750474 Since most people are passive cucks who ""dont mind"" the government, how will we achieve a libertarian order? what must be done?",,no god but Allah,,,,,1501572132 135745022,135750618,2017-08-01 07:22:23,,,Anonymous,keynescucks.png,ZbuRVJ61d5FsIwqwffmpyA==,US,,1501572143 135745022,135750639,2017-08-01 07:22:41,">Democracy - The God That Failed Reading my first Hoppe book now. Holy shit senpai it's good. Do you guys hold him higher than Rothbard?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501572161 135745022,135750647,2017-08-01 07:22:49,,,Anonymous,VYaPrdo.png,8qO3QbXqcjaXtM//HRHoVA==,US,,1501572169 135745022,135750678,2017-08-01 07:23:19,">>135750606 Disenfranchisement of people who don't own land.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501572199 135745022,135750695,2017-08-01 07:23:35,">>135750647 bad cropping oops",,Anonymous,prank.png,eoEAtSwg679kmtwkpmnBkw==,US,,1501572215 135745022,135750762,2017-08-01 07:24:53,,,Anonymous,religion-of-statism.jpg,OAPfYuW4M5PDiK+P7xhUJg==,US,,1501572293 135745022,135750763,2017-08-01 07:24:53,">>135750678 and how do we do that? These losers wont give up their only way of getting free shit easily",,no god but Allah,,,,,1501572293 135745022,135750786,2017-08-01 07:25:10,>>135750762,,Anonymous,10449499_1502515769960502_6477083493843389104_n.jpg,xOlRmBs+R2x1aunHJbpjfA==,US,,1501572310 135745022,135750829,2017-08-01 07:25:54,">>135750639 I see hoppe as Rothbard's protégé",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501572354 135745022,135750847,2017-08-01 07:26:13,,,Anonymous,1461464187709.jpg,uSQxE2XD8OWzUy7s0AvNJw==,US,,1501572373 135745022,135750865,2017-08-01 07:26:31,">>135750599 I'm on all the time. I just miss you when your on most the time I guess.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501572391 135745022,135750934,2017-08-01 07:27:36,,,Anonymous,1458309814371.jpg,qzr+eV9xp/DJt17DWN7ctA==,US,,1501572456 135745022,135751144,2017-08-01 07:31:19,"how is he so based despite being one of (((Them)))? How did he do it bros?",,Anonymous,220px-MurrayBW.jpg,Zt/MQ6WBsO+eeBOyXWQsWg==,US,,1501572679 135745022,135751265,2017-08-01 07:33:23,">>135750639 yeah, because he's got huWhite privilege",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501572803 135745022,135751451,2017-08-01 07:36:38,">>135750763 Are they going to fight me?",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501572998 135745022,135751613,2017-08-01 07:39:14,">>135751451 Possibly, but that doesnt answer my question unless you dont the answer yourself",,no god but Allah,,,,,1501573154 135745022,135751844,2017-08-01 07:43:18,">>135751144 He knew what (((they))) were up to and he was appalled. He is an honorary white for his disloyalty to the Jews.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501573398 135745022,135751960,2017-08-01 07:45:04,">>135751613 We need a pinochet, the leftists need to have their rights stripped.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501573504 135745022,135752381,2017-08-01 07:52:28,">>135751960 ethics apply to those applying ethics... they've stripped themselves of any rights",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501573948 135745022,135752495,2017-08-01 07:54:28,">>135752381 I agree, I guess I meant state granted ""rights""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501574068 135745022,135752822,2017-08-01 08:00:18,">>135751613 Just accelerate the misery within the society while opting out and establishing covenant communities protected privately. Soon enough the normies will be content with their own hides intact. Get the SPLC to get more people fired and reach out to those who lost their jobs, then rebuild a new society with them. Revolt against the modern world.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501574418 135745022,135753028,2017-08-01 08:03:32,Bump,,Anonymous,Hoppe (7).png,Ps0EkdLm4GTSaTkGmxi0Gw==,US,,1501574612 135745022,135753818,2017-08-01 08:16:46,">>135752822 Yeah I guess making it desirable to secede for the common folk would do it. But what does that mean? If you add more socialism we'll probably find ourselves in a situation where we can't opt out. How can we make the situation worse without trapping ourselves inside a socialist prison?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501575406 135745022,135754302,2017-08-01 08:24:48,Physical awooooooo!,,Anonymous,physical awoo.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,PT,,1501575888 135745022,135754530,2017-08-01 08:28:38,">>135751144 And he got fucked for it. Spent his Jew York years commuting everyday by train to work at the Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute. Then things got better when Hoppe arrived on the scene and they both went to Vegas. I loved the PFS's panel on remembering Rothbard and Tom Wood's speech at this year's Mises U. about him as well. He was definitely a brilliant yet down-to-earth and laidback guy. Hoppe also paid the price for his own intelligence. Habermas was impressed by him and it is likely that Hoppe would've become one of Germany's (and perhaps the world's) leading intellectuals at the Frankfurt School, but he started reading Mises by himself and realized what commie garbage bullshit Habermas was spewing.",,Anonymous,hoppe 80s.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,PT,,1501576118 135745022,135754817,2017-08-01 08:32:58,">>135754530 Tom woods talking Rothbard was great, haven't watched anything from Mises u other than a few clips. I think it's hilarious that Habermas was training what would become the ultimate destroyer of Marxism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501576378 135745022,135755432,2017-08-01 08:43:12,">>135754817 Yes, Hans ultimately turned Habermas's ideas upside down and royally fucked him with them. It's brilliant.",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,PT,,1501576992 135745022,135755770,2017-08-01 08:48:48,">>135750639 Most of time, but I think Rothbard's writings are more kek-worthy. His entire book ""Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and Other Essays"" in particular shits on so many groups and people (women's rights activists, environmentalists, communists, left-libertarians, democrats, RINOs) that you can't contain the laughter during some segments. Rothbard's overall career and life seems, to me, superior to Hoppe's. However I think Hoppe is the *living* philosopher/economist which I hold with highest regard. I think it's too bad Rothbard died in '95 without reading Democracy—The God That Failed. I am sure it would have been yet another seismic shift in his way of thinking.",,Anonymous,P5260036-L.jpg,PDkoX4WoFLVVxTRBG3DdLQ==,PT,,1501577328 135745022,135756250,2017-08-01 08:55:40,">>135750618 Idk Keynesian economics worked pretty well in post war Europe for a while",,Anonymous,IMG_1283.jpg,tCtp+dOyrXyzcoMIzN8Qbg==,US,,1501577740 135745022,135756280,2017-08-01 08:56:01,">>135755432 I guess you've seen his interview with Tucker. I wonder what that guy really thinks of Hoppe, being the guy all the ""alt-right"" guys cite and him being such a left libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501577761 135745022,135756572,2017-08-01 09:00:07,">>135756280 Hoppe burned Tucker in the corax conference. Called SFL Stupids for liberty and Tucker a ""foe"". Everyone applauded excepting Kokesh I guess.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501578007 135745022,135756826,2017-08-01 09:03:56,">>135756280 >>135756572 Wait wat Tucker interviewed Hoppe? Or Habermas? >>135756572 >Called SFL Stupids for liberty KEK",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute 3.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,PT,,1501578236 135745022,135756962,2017-08-01 09:05:59,">>135756826 Tucker interviewed Hoppe, I thought you knew because they talked about Hoppe's early days a lot >>135756572 Ha! It's there video of this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501578359 135745022,135756992,2017-08-01 09:06:20,"Oh wait, I'm a fucking idiot. You're talking about Jeffrey Tucker, I was thinking of Tucker Carlson for some reason. Yeah, it makes sense he and Cucker no longer get along.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501578380 135745022,135757059,2017-08-01 09:07:37,">>135756250 you also know what works good for awhile? doing cocaine and adderall and finishing school work. does that mean because you finished your work you a good boi n dindu nuffin rung? no. its not sustainable. its more like: ""hey goy keynesian economics is good!"" later that day ""h-hey rabbi, we need 50k in cash for the masonic lodge down the street to buy hookers and child sex slaves, d-do you think you could hook a fellow lucifer worshiping, blood drinking, satanist? thanks rabbi"" thats how it really works. it has nothing to do with you.",,Anonymous,1501222723746.jpg,afqQ530PrmULtiTBuUW2YQ==,US,,1501578457 135745022,135757204,2017-08-01 09:09:58,"When did 4chan become SJW? Or is it just asshole nigger mods abusing power? Literally got banned twice because I used the word ""nigger"" in a sentence relating to the thread topic. Also seen trump posts, and other off-topic shit in a video game thread, but mods don't touch those. Only when I say nigger do they crawl out of the woodwork.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501578598 135745022,135757315,2017-08-01 09:11:42,">>135756962 I hope they start releasing videos of the speech soon cause it was quite radical even for Hoppe's standards. He usually talks about his conservative views in a hypothetical private property society but in this speech he actually gave 10 ""points"" on how to reach freedom and advocated for stopping immigration today between other things. Also he mentioned private cities as a promising method of achieving his goals during the Q&A and that the ostracizing in covenants does not necessarily need to be about contracts but about making the life of the degenerates impossible if there wasn't contract, using the influence of well liked individuals within the community.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501578702 135745022,135757458,2017-08-01 09:14:01,">>135757315 I think the speech he gave is going to be the same he gives on the alt-right later in September. What were his ten points if you can remember? Also, how much does he like the alt-right?",,Anonymous,Hoppe Quote BW 3.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,PT,,1501578841 135745022,135757803,2017-08-01 09:18:51,">>135757204 I've never been banned and I outright call for violence. Many niggers, many faggots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501579131 135745022,135757853,2017-08-01 09:19:40,">>135756992 Lol, I wish Carlson would have Hoppe on, I'm sure it'll never happen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501579180 135745022,135758372,2017-08-01 09:27:23,Bump,,Anonymous,1491777081387.gif,ufUyAuuCSdPNNfcXgs29jA==,US,,1501579643 135745022,135758391,2017-08-01 09:27:36,">>135757458 He likes some members of the alt right and claimed to be in contact with many of the ""leaders"". He's disappointed in Spencer, who went to see Hoppe in a conference 3 years ago, for going full socialist. I have all his speech basically in notes, but at my house, will post them later. By the way, another thing that I already had my suspicions about but got kind of confirmed in his speech, Hoppe does not see the NAP as the ""NAP will solve it"" resource many people tend to adhere to, he, like me and many others here, is more focused on incentives and praxeology than unversally shared principles.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501579656 135745022,135758654,2017-08-01 09:31:32,">>135758391 Sounds great honestly. Spencer did sell out, having him at PFS was a huge mistake. I guess he's in touch with Jared Taylor and other huwhite nationalists, etc. >Hoppe does not see the NAP as the ""NAP will solve it"" Awesome, he's really not pussyfooting around when it comes to having our way against the degenerates. I look forward to reading your notes, Maltabro.",,Anonymous,ancap andy again.jpg,nJJiImciDuRCuXn4r+lycw==,PT,,1501579892 135745022,135759064,2017-08-01 09:37:30,">>135745022 https://youtu.be/RxRlKpPUJBI What did he mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501580250 135745022,135759561,2017-08-01 09:44:47,">>135748514 Shut the fuck up you communist rape baby. I cannot believe this fucking country still believes in socialism after years of horrible failure.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501580687 135745022,135759606,2017-08-01 09:45:27,">>135759064 I hope they paid for that flag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501580727 135745022,135759765,2017-08-01 09:47:35,">>135745022 OP, new to the thread but not the libertarian way of thinking. What is the libertarian solution to decreasing our current big government environment? It seems that one would need to change it from the inside, no?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501580855 135745022,135759859,2017-08-01 09:48:51,">>135759765 We need to support secession movements and engage in populism.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501580931 135745022,135760053,2017-08-01 09:51:37,">>135759765 Malta has it right, promote secession, especially from multinational unions like the eu, and populism, rallying the masses against the state is the way to do it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501581097 135745022,135760169,2017-08-01 09:53:21,Brexit was a great example of that. Tremendously anti-democratic (17 million Brits voting against the selfishness of 500 million jewropeans),,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501581201 135745022,135760422,2017-08-01 09:56:41,">>135745022 Isnt paleoconservatism more close to original conservatism like monarchism? Not this classical liberal bullshit you advocate.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1501581401 135745022,135760538,2017-08-01 09:58:12,">>135760422 All of us in this thread are paleo and mean, fellow huwhite.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501581492 135745022,135760917,2017-08-01 10:03:26,">>135745022 libertarians cannot be right wing because they are individualists, which makes them inherently hedonist left-wingers, regardless of how edgy they act",,Anonymous,,,,,1501581806 135745022,135761071,2017-08-01 10:05:36,">>135760917 Lurk more faggot. Also, all right wing ideologies are based on the the individual. Take monarchy for example. The system is centered on the individual ruler. Leftists are collectivists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501581936 135745022,135761131,2017-08-01 10:06:18,"Austrian vs. Anglo-Saxon economics. Theoretically, the Austrian economists are correct and the Anglo-Saxons are charlatans. In practice, the Anglo-Saxon economists are correct (even if unconsciously) while the Austrians are naive fantasists. Let's try to understand why. Theoretically, everything the Anglo-Saxons teach is illogical horseshit, which has by now been exposed a thousand times over in innumerable Austrian school publications (Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson is a good starting point for the uninitiated). And yet, not only do the Anglo-Saxons completely dominate at the practical level (and even in a majority of the academies), but it is hardly even possible for us to imagine a future in which they wouldn't. We have here a state of things in which correct theory and practice are diametrically opposed (whereas in all other advanced fields they line up perfectly), and this fight between them has been raging for well over a century now. Why is this happening, and what can be done about it? 1",,Anonymous,,,,,1501581978 135745022,135761140,2017-08-01 10:06:28,">>135760917 No true scotsman",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501581988 135745022,135761185,2017-08-01 10:07:10,">>135761131 Let's start with the theoretical issues. The fundamental mistake of the Austrians is that they suppose that the only thing that's circulating in an economy is MONEY. They see only money, they analyze only money, and they are surprised when their analyses and policy recommendations are ridiculed and ignored in the real world, where they are simply inapplicable. Because in the real world, you see, it's not only money that's circulating, but also RESSENTIMENT. Success generates, not only money, but also resentment, resentment which must be somehow dealt with if the society in which your economic principles are to be applied is to continue functioning properly instead of fall to pieces. In the old days, ressentiment was dealt with by brute violence, plain and simple. Slaves were envious of their masters' prosperity, and so when this envy flared up and threatened the civic order, the masters would bring out their clubs and start the beatings. In ancient Sparta, for example, where the slave to master ratio was 7 or 8 to one, the people had to turn their society into an armed camp, open 24/7, 365 days a year, we never close ""because everyday someone somewhere deserves a beating"", in order to retain a semblance of stability and control over things. The masters LITERALLY BLED on a regular basis in order to be able to enjoy their prosperity and success. And is it any different with the modern masters, 50% or more of whose output is being regularly confiscated by the state to be redistributed, in one way or another, to the modern-day slaves so that they'll keep the peace? Whether you bleed literally or figuratively, ressentiment will have its portion, and the only thing you can do about it is man the fuck up and pay up, all the while (hopefully) realizing that it is you who are responsible for its occurrence, and that that is the price you have to pay for your success. 2",,Anonymous,,,,,1501582030 135745022,135761256,2017-08-01 10:08:16,">>135761185 And this is where the Anglo-Saxons come in. Their job is to concoct an absurd monstrosity of a pseudo-theory whose purpose is to bury deep beneath layers of impenetrable jargon the brute fact that resources must be somehow taken from the successful and redistributed to the failures to keep the economy from coming to a standstill in waves of strikes and violent protests, and the society from exploding in all-out civil war. Let me repeat this, for the benefit of the Austrian supporters and apologists who have their heads in the clouds and hence are hard of hearing: Austrian theories, when applied, pure and unadulterated, in an advanced democratic economy, would lead to CIVIL WAR. Therefore, they are not only empirically false, but also theoretically, since the economies created by the Anglo-Saxons, though grossly inefficient compared to your utterly fantastic pie-in-the-sky models, are still at least functioning, and therefore producing far more than both the little Austrian simulations running inside your computers, and a society in which the Austrian model has been applied and caused it to disintegrate. 3",,Anonymous,,,,,1501582096 135745022,135761323,2017-08-01 10:09:18,">>135761256 So ultimately, the problem we now face is two-fold. On the one hand, whoever studies the magical economics of the Anglo-Saxons becomes a buffoon who thinks that 1-1=11. And, on the other hand, whoever studies from the Austrians becomes utterly unfit to do anything in real life besides... study the Austrians. What we need is for the Anglo-Saxons to drop the lies and the obfuscations and state the cold, hard truth about what's happening (which would require them to understand it first, which would entail their reading, among other things, the Austrians), and for the Austrians to acknowledge that psychology (in the form of ressentiment) is just as important for the practical applicability of their models as pure economics, and that it must be somehow dealt with since there's no way around it. Only then would we get a real science of economics that would be able to place both violence (in the form of the police, which does indeed play today, to a small extent, the role of the Spartan hoplites) and redistribution on the scales and arrive at the most practically realistic and economically efficient balance. But these are not considerations for the economists of today, since there exists neither the power nor even the will to enforce them in a democratic context, but for those who will preside over such matters as leaders and economists in a future kingdom of Overmen. 4 fuck all of you morons. thanks /leaves thread",,Anonymous,,,,,1501582158 135745022,135761364,2017-08-01 10:09:44,">>135761131 What the fuck? So by your logic democracy is fine? Just because it's preached everywhere? Nothing can be done about it, we just have to wait. >>135761185 Fuck off with your ocpypaster you literally lied in the first line of text you wrote. AUSTRIANS ANALYSE HUMAN BEHAVIOUR. HUMAN BEHAVIOUR FORMS THE ECONOMY. >>135760917 It is in my individual interest for the white race to not get genocided, check mate. >>135760422 What is classical liberal bullshit? Monarchy is closer to an-capitan than any other form of goverment. Minarchy is a sort of monarchy.",,Anonymous,Argh!.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,PL,,1501582184 135745022,135761485,2017-08-01 10:11:29,">>135745220 >Tfw live in Cantwell's small town I can't wait to bump into him at market basket. Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501582289 135745022,135761616,2017-08-01 10:13:17,">>135761485 I wonder if it's awkward for the e-celebs when they rant about nogs and kikes on the internet and then see minorities as cashiers or cooks. I'd be paranoid about them spitting in my food at restaurants.",,Anonymous,H A Z L I T T.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,PT,,1501582397 135745022,135761849,2017-08-01 10:16:22,">>135761616 Well, we both live in a 95% white town, I see a non white every other day. >Tfw non white Maybe I shouldn't meet him ;_;",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501582582 135745022,135761985,2017-08-01 10:18:27,">>135761849 Nah man, he's probably cool. He had That Guy T on his show and they were both discussing kikes and nogs like they were two Stormfront pals. Remember, for all his fashy goy tendencies he's still a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501582707 135745022,135762156,2017-08-01 10:21:18,">>135761849 Some niggers are ancestors of white rape babies so that's the percentage that's intelligent.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1501582878 135745022,135762159,2017-08-01 10:21:20,">>135761616 It's not bad, I'm pretty outwardly racist at least with people I know. I don't have any problems. I don't even think most people are offended by the stuff but rather they feel obligated to be offended. Once someone is open about it they feel no need to PC cuck about it unless they're a real hard Lefty. The brown people I know find it funny when I call them racist names.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501582880 135745022,135762422,2017-08-01 10:24:49,">>135762159 Use your non-white privilege as much as you can against roasties and SJW cucks.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501583089 135745022,135762647,2017-08-01 10:28:02,">>135762422 Lol I don't have non-white privilege. I'm just ""that crazy white guy"" to everyone in town. My way is just to be alpha about it and not apologize. Once they realize you won't cave to their commie ostracism they leave you alone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501583282 135745022,135763206,2017-08-01 10:36:12,">>135762647 Ups I meant to reply to the other guy >>135761849 and not you. But I'm glad you put those commies in their place.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501583772 135785032,135785032,2017-08-01 14:23:52,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_lrg.png,Ax4FLg4PngGMKJwJomWgCQ==,GB,,1501597432 135785032,135785256,2017-08-01 14:25:49,Respect. Best thread.,,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1501597549 135785032,135786344,2017-08-01 14:35:22,I found that articulate black guys discord. It's pretty gay.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501598122 135785032,135786421,2017-08-01 14:36:02,,,Anonymous,sticky.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,US,,1501598162 135785032,135786522,2017-08-01 14:36:55,">>135785256 i miss pinochet",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1501598215 135785032,135786637,2017-08-01 14:37:55,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_4.png,vodplgKDngqNlpNR/Uj59A==,US,,1501598275 135785032,135787063,2017-08-01 14:41:58,">>135785032 Would you guys be ok with open borders if the Civil Rights Act was repealed and immigrants weren't allowed welfare? I know most of you are traditionalists but the economic gains could be pretty significant.",,Anonymous,059717651.png,mLfQNRljK6sT++d9BhGRag==,,,1501598518 135785032,135787113,2017-08-01 14:42:31,">>135785032 How do you protect the environment?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501598551 135785032,135787151,2017-08-01 14:42:49,">>135786344 thatguyT?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501598569 135785032,135787165,2017-08-01 14:42:57,cringe thread,,Anonymous,,,AR,,1501598577 135785032,135787562,2017-08-01 14:46:22,">>135787151 Yeah. It's pretty degenerate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501598782 135785032,135787721,2017-08-01 14:47:49,">>135787063 If public property were abolished as well. Maybe. I still wouldn't let Mexicans near my covenant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501598869 135785032,135787867,2017-08-01 14:49:20,">>135787113 By abolishing public land",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501598960 135785032,135787991,2017-08-01 14:50:27,">>135787113 if you're polluting other people's property then that's breaking the NAP and you're getting sued. you're not polluting your own property because it would lower its value just like it would for ex: your house so the environment would be more protected",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501599027 135785032,135788486,2017-08-01 14:55:08,">>135785032 OK here is a problem for Libertarians to solve, Gommies already got their solution and now i need to hear yours to make up my mind : Lets say companies now increase the robot work force to up to 90%. This could lead to mass unemployment and consequently a huge crash since no one would have money to buy the stuff being produced in large scales. Since trying to hold production is retarded what are you as a libertarian propose ? The gommie alternative : Increase taxes on the companies that own robots. The more robots more taxes. With that money they would pay wages to the people for existing. If people still want to contribute to society they would ger more money (for exemple people producing papers in the university would get more money, conducting experiments, scientific breakthrough etc), as for example producing art(dont even ask me how would that work). So Libertarians what is your solution ?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501599308 135785032,135788520,2017-08-01 14:55:27,">>135787113 Complex question, but for the most part the restoration of property rights to their absolute level should fix the issue. The simple fact here that lies at the heart of the issue is that polluting property is an act of aggression. Since we hold that all property should be private, you're either polluting your property or others. Of course, no rational person pollutes their own property, it would be economic madness. Again, polluting other's property constitutes an act of aggression - this should be perused through the court systems. This is actually how this used to work, for example in the industrial revolution, people would take out class-action lawsuits under tort law against companies that harmed them with their pollution. Government of course ended this - by granting companies immunity to these, setting a set amount they were allowed to pollute, so that the economy wouldn't be 'hampered'. As far as I know, the same problem exists in the USA today - you can sue companies that pollute, but not class action, and obviously it's too infeasible for everyone nearby to sue. There's other factors to consider, for example that government is a major agent of pollution anyway, having no incentive to preserve the 'public' property they hold. This problem holds true for many cases of public property - for example, governments renting out forests to logging companies, with no replanting occuring; or in the oceans, where companies have no reason to do aquaculture and preserve the oceans, since they can't own property in the ocean. But to be short, pollution is managed by a comprehensive system of property rights and recognising over pollution as a crime.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501599327 135785032,135788528,2017-08-01 14:55:32,"You stupid niggers Ancap doesn't work The State needs to own things such as healthcare and school to ensure quality",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501599332 135785032,135788682,2017-08-01 14:56:56,">>135788528 >He thinks public schools are of quality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501599416 135785032,135788764,2017-08-01 14:57:43,">>135788486 This question has never made sense. In a world where everyone is unemployed because of the automation boogieman, there's nobody to buy goods, so why would capitalists ever allow this?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501599463 135785032,135788820,2017-08-01 14:58:14,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1501599494 135785032,135788836,2017-08-01 14:58:23,">>135787113 if you let say pollute a river or a lake your neighbor should sue you since your action is devaluating his property.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501599503 135785032,135788900,2017-08-01 14:58:55,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.23.44.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,US,,1501599535 135785032,135788917,2017-08-01 14:59:07,">>135786421 >no roads Kek'd",,Anonymous,,,,,1501599547 135785032,135789029,2017-08-01 15:00:06,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-02.06.08.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,US,,1501599606 135785032,135789110,2017-08-01 15:00:55,A new one,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-07.53.06.jpg,PwVdnGrHvBbkX7mpdxBuhw==,US,,1501599655 135785032,135789188,2017-08-01 15:01:47,">>135788764 its obvious : because producing faster and better is easy attainable using robots. Also with better energy sources we might be able to make robots work so cheap it would be a bad idea to employ someone to do a job a machine can do. It can be done and will eventually happen. The state will obviously make laws to prevent it, but producing more is better than stop producing since it means more value.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501599707 135785032,135789224,2017-08-01 15:02:07,">>135785032 do libertarians have a religion? if so, what and why?",,Anonymous,ancap is best anarchy.png,Bk+SrYj/j+K8wvi7Ig7jFQ==,US,,1501599727 135785032,135789249,2017-08-01 15:02:26,">>135789110 Nice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501599746 135785032,135789486,2017-08-01 15:04:33,">>135788764 >In a world where everyone is unemployed because of the automation boogieman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smmLfwU5W-4 ""those who do not study can allways flip b... oh wait"".",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501599873 135785032,135789592,2017-08-01 15:05:39,"I promised in a previous thread that I would post the notes I took on the recent Corax conference from Hoppe: 1) Libertarianism as we know was created in Rothbard's house 2) We need private property for conflict avoidance 3) Talked about lockean appropriation 4) Talked about fake libertarians and how we need them as useful idiots 5) Our enemies are people who advocate for taxes, state, human rights, anti discrimination, minimum income, etc 6) Trump has proven to be a fluke even though he was hopeful 7) Alt right has no theory behind them to unite them, they have the presence though, so we should attempt to add theory to that movement 8) Egalitarian libertarianism is a mistake, need to understand differences of people 9) Alt right is only united by hate of globalism 10) Burn on stupids (students) for liberty, Jeffrey ""foe"" Tucker, Richard Spencer for going socialist 11) The NAP is not enough for a prosperous society, just the minimum all humans should agree on. 12) Multiculuturalism destroys libertarian order and generates a lack of trust between society members. 13) We must hate statists and idiots, our enemy is deep state, educators, MSM 14) White heterosexual men get the most criticism even though we are the biggest contrinutors to society 15) The strategy must be libertarian populism, headed by Mises institute, Rothbard and Hoppe himself 16) 10 steps we need to follow: >stop mass immigration >stop external wars and conflict generation >defund elites >end central banks >end anti discrimination >crush antifas and sjws >crush criminals and gangs >get rid of welfare bums >Get the state out of education >distrust all politicians",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501599939 135785032,135790038,2017-08-01 15:10:10,,,Anonymous,1501575576641.jpg,z5aSf8fmYb1IfwzI5u+0lg==,,,1501600210 135785032,135790214,2017-08-01 15:12:00,">>135788528 >state healthcare and school >quality lmao, aren't mass starvation and commieblocks proof enough this is false?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501600320 135785032,135790366,2017-08-01 15:13:29,">>135788486 Under those conditions stock ownership (any stock basically) would allow for basic livelihood, specially without inflation directing all our wealth towards inelastic demand products. This would give us time to come up with new ways to differenciate ourselves and make us useful again. Craftmanship was replaced by industry, and industry will be replaced by craftmanship. Rich people buy handmade shoes, poor people buy industrial shoes, if everyone is rich, everyone buys handmade shoes. People will be able to work much less in order to have good living conditions and will retire much earlier. Unlike the UBI or communism, stock ownership directs funds towards productive enterprises. Our education will need to shift heavily to recognizing good business opportunities (it should already but states don't want us to become rich).",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501600409 135785032,135791143,2017-08-01 15:21:01,">>135789592 Wonderful, is there any video of this talk out yet?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501600861 135785032,135791927,2017-08-01 15:28:24,Also if you guys keep this thread bumped long enough I'll get you that Paleo crew image made.,,Anonymous,Untitled2.png,FpwYzRQR4WsctIz4Crw/NQ==,US,,1501601304 135785032,135791945,2017-08-01 15:28:32,">>135787063 As mentioned before public property also has to be removed so there is only private property and every property owner can decide for himself who to let in or not. This process of border control could of course be outsourced or could be done togehter with people who share the same interest as you",,Anonymous,,,,,1501601312 135785032,135791966,2017-08-01 15:28:48,">>135791143 not sure if they will go full jew and release it for people who paid for it or if they'll make it public. I hope the latter and I will try to let my opinion known in their forum.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501601328 135785032,135792221,2017-08-01 15:31:17,">>135789110 a good one",,Anonymous,,,,,1501601477 135785032,135792428,2017-08-01 15:33:23,"Hey guys, I'm from r/Anarcho_Capitalism. It's neat to see a thriving island of sensible freedom lovers even in this racist hellhole. I've been thinking about how to convert the alt-right nazi Trump sympathizers. Trump has done some good things but closing the borders is borderline fascist. I think one first step is to point out that there would be no Trump without Ron Paul blazing the trail. The only issue would be convincing them to be less racist. It would really be bad publicity if they carried all this anti-black, anti-semitic, white supremacist garbage into our pristine and egalitarian intellectual garden of Eden. Unlike others, I think these people are salvageable. One idea is pointing out how many jews Trump employs. They seem pretty attached to him. Also, I think it's pretty trivial to prove to them that Africa isn't a shithole because of either race OR imperialism, but due to communism and foreign entanglements. That's all for now. Cheers!",,Anonymous,boi.jpg,9tlmYJ1xMpa/6Nz17JXCug==,,,1501601603 135785032,135792502,2017-08-01 15:34:05,">>135788528 >healthcare and school Of all the things you could have chosen (military, police, roads) you chose healthcare and school?",,Anonymous,banks.jpg,72xLCAQx7kWsDy2qoc+K5A==,,,1501601645 135785032,135792583,2017-08-01 15:34:52,">>135789224 I personally do not and I think most libertarians don't either but libertarianism isn't opposed to the idea of religion. Following a religion or being member of a church is voluntary so there is no problem with that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501601692 135785032,135792708,2017-08-01 15:36:00,">>135792428 8/10 pretty good. Could have been better if you said Jeffery Tucker or Byran Caplan was your hero.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501601760 135785032,135793088,2017-08-01 15:39:52,">>135792583 I think makes sense. Im not religious but I'm sorta of the idea that there is a grand hierarchy. Seems compatible with libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501601992 135785032,135793415,2017-08-01 15:43:04,">>135788528 What can the state do to ensure quality that private firms cannot?",,Anonymous,hmmm.jpg,pN2J2qcvlH348psRn1ZRoQ==,,,1501602184 135785032,135793544,2017-08-01 15:44:13,">>135787063 No. Abolish public property like the other guy said first.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501602253 135785032,135793663,2017-08-01 15:45:18,">>135785032 This is so cringy, only autistic retards without a slight sense of reality and human nature would be an-caps",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1501602318 135785032,135793695,2017-08-01 15:45:31,">>135789224 Most libertarians seem to be areligious. That being said, the Christian church today is basically a tax-free voluntary organization completely separate from the state, with its own charities and militias (in the case of the middle east), so I'd imagine that even though libertarians trend towards agnosticism they can respect the position of Christianity today.",,Anonymous,crosses.png,tsQKa/8E3hKsCZ3AeSdurA==,,,1501602331 135785032,135793720,2017-08-01 15:45:41,">>135789592 Thank you based Malta.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501602341 135785032,135793808,2017-08-01 15:46:31,">>135793663 Notice that this is not an ancap thread, this is a libertarian thread.",,Anonymous,pistol.jpg,R90GQnhRuU2YRiOGd59H0A==,,,1501602391 135785032,135793810,2017-08-01 15:46:32,">>135793088 A lot of things are compatible with libertarianism including a white ethno state and hippie communes. The point is just that you do not force your livestyle or ideology onto others. It always saddens me when I see people who would find just what they are looking for i a libertarian society go into the complete opposite direction. It always seems to be easyer to define what you hate rather than to describe what you want.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501602392 135785032,135793826,2017-08-01 15:46:38,">>135793663 You seem in dire need of a helicopter ride my socialist friend",,Anonymous,,,,,1501602398 135785032,135793843,2017-08-01 15:46:50,">>135789110 kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1501602410 135785032,135793908,2017-08-01 15:47:22,">>135792708 Thanks. I was hoping for more (you)s but oh well.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501602442 135785032,135794223,2017-08-01 15:50:11,">>135793808 Same shit Daily reminder that Capitalism can ONLY exist with a strong goverment that protects the system.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1501602611 135785032,135794321,2017-08-01 15:51:05,">>135792428 >>135793908 Here's your (You), faggot. Now leave",,Anonymous,,,,,1501602665 135785032,135794346,2017-08-01 15:51:24,">>135793908 That got a good chuckle out of me. But if you want the (you)s try and make it seem legit. You should call Paleolibertarians and Hoppeans Nazis pretending to be libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501602684 135785032,135794415,2017-08-01 15:52:04,">>135794223 Chile understands this. Just ask Pinochet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501602724 135785032,135794520,2017-08-01 15:53:05,">>135789592 >crush antifas and sjws There might be a different side to this argument. Those people make the left look bad wich in return drives people more to the right. If we defeat them we are just helping the left to get rid of their more ugly brothers and sisters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501602785 135785032,135794599,2017-08-01 15:53:44,">>135794346 Thanks for the tip. I don't really want to lurk that place myself to get more informed desu.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501602824 135785032,135794652,2017-08-01 15:54:12,">>135785032 >Ayn Rand >Milton Friedman",,Anonymous,christ-chan.png,zaTpnEi5k8mPhyHRbCsx9g==,US,,1501602852 135785032,135794707,2017-08-01 15:54:43,">>135794520 I don't think the left cares much about how they look as long as they control the narrative.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501602883 135785032,135794787,2017-08-01 15:55:34,">>135794415 That's only because he took advise from (((Friedman))). A Hoppe coached monarchy would rek pinochet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501602934 135785032,135794962,2017-08-01 15:57:09,">>135794223 Most of the people in this thread support Pinochet. No one is saying that, in the capacities that a state should serve, it shouldn't serve strongly. A nation ought to have a strong military, police force, and border control. The rest can probably be handled by the private sector.",,Anonymous,revolution.png,BtggOgvUYDzdOvlXpCLMrA==,,,1501603029 135785032,135795057,2017-08-01 15:57:53,">>135794707 I disagree, ""moderate"" leftists want to destroy sjws because they make their agenda look bad. I think they are a good eye opener for right leaning people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501603073 135785032,135795185,2017-08-01 15:59:06,">>135785032 >falling for the new jewish intellectual movement You morons, libertarian society would just mean direct consolidation of power for central banks and private banks during the transition.",,Anonymous,arrest.jpg,F/C/BzHYvm9hN7chT5koEQ==,,,1501603146 135785032,135795305,2017-08-01 16:00:23,">>135794707 Yes once they do, they don't care anymore (see venezuela). But we are sadly living in a democatic society and they have to be elected first. If they are associated with those commies most people wont vote for them because they are opposed to the methodes they are using (violence).",,Anonymous,,,,,1501603223 135785032,135795546,2017-08-01 16:02:37,">>135794962 I don't get why you want to be the servants of a elite plutocratic system, lolbertarians seems massive cucks, the typical sycophant. A Pinochet like capitalism wouldnt survive anyway, you need to make plebs happy and throw free gibs sometimes, you cant just kill opposition and expect people will not chimpout someday, why do you think the more savvy capitalists like Buffett are liberals?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1501603357 135785032,135795598,2017-08-01 16:03:05,">>135795185 Yeah, that's why we want to abolish central banking amiright? You're a big government shill. Don't pretend you oppose central banking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501603385 135785032,135795685,2017-08-01 16:04:03,">>135795185 >National (((Socialism))) We are just as opposed to central banks as you are. Thats why we support the gold standart and bitcoin.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501603443 135785032,135795746,2017-08-01 16:04:44,Privatized communism general.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501603484 135785032,135795856,2017-08-01 16:05:48,">>135795546 >I don't get why you want to be the servants of a elite plutocratic system I don't, by increasing the economic freedom society has you raise the amount of competition, thus allowing for smaller businesses to prosper over bigger business which use government regulations and high taxes to prevent competition. >you need to make plebs happy and throw free gibs sometime Not if you just kill them whenever they rebel.",,Anonymous,helo.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,,,1501603548 135785032,135795860,2017-08-01 16:05:50,">>135795598 How are you going to abolish them? As soon as state loses power the people who control the money supply gain power directly. I'm not pro jewish usury and war profiteering.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501603550 135785032,135795989,2017-08-01 16:06:57,">>135795057 Only in those places where they're losing the narrative. I know we tend to look at the US political scene as reference but the US is the exception here imo, in the rest of the world they still get away with things such as Hamburg's antifa revolt.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501603617 135785032,135796066,2017-08-01 16:07:39,">>135795685 Production based currency is better because it creates a deflation based society, which with a government dedicated to optimizing the utility of the race (volk) can ensure steady wages and no market collapses from speculators. Not to mention interest free loans, which pay for themselves in the long run by relative change in currency value over time due to loans being used to boost production/consumption.",,Anonymous,Hitlerdidnothingwrong.jpg,TUqtyUSqSZJ3hJi9gxs0+w==,,,1501603659 135785032,135796167,2017-08-01 16:08:36,">>135785032 Which strain of Libertarianism is best suited for a white supremacist like myself. I feel that National Socialism turns into puritanical shit and eventually aims at it's own people. I think heroin should be legal which National Socialists vehemently oppose. I don't want Jews or shitskins to have any power.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501603716 135785032,135796176,2017-08-01 16:08:43,">>135787165 Go back kike",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501603723 135785032,135796228,2017-08-01 16:09:16,">>135795989 I hadn't thought about Europe. I could see letting them to wild over there being a bad thing. Over here we laugh at them and whip out our guns when they get too rowdy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501603756 135785032,135796255,2017-08-01 16:09:27,">I believe in libertarian ideals but only the conservative ones xDDDD Fucking retards, the lot of you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501603767 135785032,135796328,2017-08-01 16:10:13,">>135796066 >Interest-free loans >Pay for themselves",,Anonymous,ýýýýý.jpg,8yOzVMo5/Lp65iQaUzt1Qg==,,,1501603813 135785032,135796361,2017-08-01 16:10:36,">>135796255 Yes, because socialism is so libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501603836 135785032,135796375,2017-08-01 16:10:44,">>135789592 Also >remove non-whites >remove jews This is totally ancap friendly.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1501603844 135785032,135796498,2017-08-01 16:11:52,">>135796167 Paleolibertarianism",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501603912 135785032,135796521,2017-08-01 16:12:04,">>135785032 This thread is why I'm no longer a lolbergtarian. Even Molymeme is only a bowtie in principle. Get a few drinks in him and he'd be throwing roman salutes and telling Jews to put their teeth on curbs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501603924 135785032,135796550,2017-08-01 16:12:30,">>135796167 National Socialist looking to deprogram into a drug friendly white libertarian utopia where drugs are legal. Any suggested reading?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501603950 135785032,135796855,2017-08-01 16:15:27,">>135796167 Anyone who doesn't see National Socialism/fascism as a transit state that should be used for removing undesirables is a retard. There is no way to create a society that has low average time preference, self-reliance and an anti-democratic/anti-communist perspective without having those ideas shoved down their throats. What alternatives are there to de-globalisation other than fascism, libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1501604127 135785032,135796948,2017-08-01 16:16:19,">>135796855 Right-wing populism + secessionist movements. Read pic related.",,Anonymous,decentralization.png,/qpBa22Z7Qc9bb9cJhQGlA==,PT,,1501604179 135785032,135796991,2017-08-01 16:16:41,">>135795989 I agree to some extened. The tolerance for leftist violence in western europe is much greater than in the US and antifa also gets support from establied politicans. But that doesn't mean that things like we saw in hamburg, or every year in germany, aren't pushing a part of the population more to the right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501604201 135785032,135797360,2017-08-01 16:19:57,">>135796855 I'm just concerned that I'll be killed in a National Socialist state because I'll never give up drugs, and I'll never give up extreme sex fantasies. I do view the removal of the Jew as the most important goal. But I've received enough backlash from National Socialists that I don't think it's for me. I've been likened to a kike and that's just not acceptable. It's a slap in the face to someone like me who has studied the Jewish question for over a decade.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501604397 135785032,135797495,2017-08-01 16:21:08,">>135797360 >I'll never give up drugs, and I'll never give up extreme sex fantasies. You're making us all look bad, you know?",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,MDvV5/ESn+dSdlhifEMiZA==,PT,,1501604468 135785032,135797582,2017-08-01 16:22:04,">>135796521 You don't get it, do you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501604524 135785032,135797796,2017-08-01 16:24:12,">>135788486 Let's say most major corporations have robots. Small business could not afford up front cost, as well as mainyanance (ever been in a fast food job where there is no burger flipper on duty? It's a nightmare) because people have a smaller income, products being sold become incredibly cheap and still affordable. The market may change, but it is still a market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501604652 135785032,135797828,2017-08-01 16:24:31,">>135789224 I actually got into libertarian political thought based on the notion of man's fallibility - if man is a fallen and sinful creature, then no one can be trusted with an inordinate deal of power. While I think the concupiscence of man is axiomatic, and probably accepted my most libertarians, I first received it from Christian doctrine. Basically what I'm trying to say is that Christian libertarianism is a coherent position - the Church is a free association, and charity to the poor ought to be as well, otherwise it has no spiritual content or value. If you force people into the external trappings of religion or moral behavior, then these lose the sanctity that they can only receive from free choice. God could have made us perfect automata, but didn't, so the drive to make human beings moral through coercion is literally Satanic. My reasoning for accepting Christianity are in C.S. Lewis' books, which I recommend to everyone. Faith is a large part of it, which is why I refuse to try and force anyone to accept my religion, but I think it is my duty to answer this kind of question when it's asked.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501604671 135785032,135797895,2017-08-01 16:25:09,,,Anonymous,12tk.png,atwX1fP1BDi25KOkUwbq2w==,MT,,1501604709 135785032,135798005,2017-08-01 16:26:24,">>135797895 The cursory research I've done into Hoppe suggests he would be a drug warrior.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501604784 135785032,135798054,2017-08-01 16:26:59,">>135797895 YES",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501604819 135785032,135798059,2017-08-01 16:27:00,">>135798005 he's a chainsmoker that's for sure",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501604820 135785032,135798152,2017-08-01 16:27:54,">>135797895 This is the greatest thing since bread came sliced ;_;",,Anonymous,dixie.jpg,6slI+uDbEdVTRdOhzam+5A==,PT,,1501604874 135785032,135798277,2017-08-01 16:29:12,">>135798059 I didn't know he was the cussing type, I always assumed he was kinda put off by that. Kek I wonder what he stars saying once he has a few drinks. One drink away from becoming Pinochet.",,Anonymous,1486509987520.gif,NVpLQZZCftr2HhVNCI1POA==,PT,,1501604952 135785032,135798459,2017-08-01 16:31:21,"Are there any good Paleolibertarian type forums aside from the mish-mash of /pol/ I was on Daily Stormer for a while but I got shoahed by the puritan cunts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501605081 135785032,135798469,2017-08-01 16:31:27,">>135797360 Um, in a Libertarian society you are free from oppression, but not free from damage you do to yourself. No society can protect you from your own choices.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501605087 135785032,135798593,2017-08-01 16:32:38,">>135798277 The talk we had about IQ was fucking funny, he was asking someone all the time to bring him beer and at some point one girl came by to listen right after we were done speaking about women being terrible at chess and he explaining the bell curve on women IQ lol. Btw, 8% women at most lmao, one or two were attractive tho.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501605158 135785032,135798767,2017-08-01 16:34:04,">>135798593 Christ I'd kill a commie or two to have been able to attend. That sounds hilarious",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501605244 135785032,135798867,2017-08-01 16:35:10,">>135798469 Do you think the bad Jews would self deport in a libertarian society? The welfare shitskins too? Or do we need strong racial laws?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501605310 135785032,135798931,2017-08-01 16:35:46,">>135789224 libertarian catholic here, it's sometimes awkward being around so many atheists or fedora tipping ""deists"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1501605346 135785032,135799072,2017-08-01 16:37:20,">>135798867 I'm not sure how that relates to my post. It should be up to the communities to decide who's allowed to stay or come.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501605440 135785032,135799163,2017-08-01 16:38:07,">>135798277 >>135798059 I knew for sure Hoppe was redpilled on tabacco, I was a little surprised by hearing him cussing. But it makes sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501605487 135785032,135799254,2017-08-01 16:38:51,">>135799072 It relates to your post because you say you are opposed to oppression. I'm saying I do also, but only if there is an end game for the Jewish question.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501605531 135785032,135799266,2017-08-01 16:38:59,">>135798459 The discord. Pretty much /lrg/ is the only Paleo crew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501605539 135785032,135799471,2017-08-01 16:41:10,">>135799266 which discord? do u have a link?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501605670 135785032,135799530,2017-08-01 16:41:36,"Anybody know if Cantwell ever recorded that audiobook for Democracy the God that Failed? >>135789224 I was raised catholic, but my father introduced me to evolutionary science at age 7, and we've both been culturally catholic non-believers ever since. I've come to the conclusion that religion is something that some people need, and others simply do not. Some people have a hard time coping with reality without creation stories and the like, hence Genesis, and others have a hard time rationalizing their morality without irreducible tenets like the Ten Commandments.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501605696 135785032,135799673,2017-08-01 16:42:51,">>135785032 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bkoasd69hE Is it pedophilia if the child consents?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501605771 135785032,135799841,2017-08-01 16:44:21,">>135799471 Check the op, (((mods))) filter full links so you gotta put it together.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501605861 135785032,135800051,2017-08-01 16:46:22,>>135799673,,Anonymous,if the child consents.png,chq4vnTJqJyiwbt8st1apA==,,,1501605982 135785032,135800161,2017-08-01 16:47:20,">>135799530 No, and if he did he'd either sell it or hide it behind his paywall. Still worth a subscription, though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501606040 135785032,135800688,2017-08-01 16:52:21,"can someone help me get to the discord? i got /jCVRCR3 but have no idea where to put it, i have discord downloaded",,Anonymous,,,,,1501606341 135785032,135801422,2017-08-01 16:59:02,">>135800688 nvm, got it",,Anonymous,,,,,1501606742 135785032,135801511,2017-08-01 16:59:56,"the only problem i see with ancap is that it doesnt give a shit about race, and if someone that violated the nap violated it via killing someone, how would that nap violator be taken care of? It also doesn't answer the JQ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501606796 135785032,135801995,2017-08-01 17:04:51,">>135801511 maybe if there won't be many cops to arrest you when you ""handle"" the jew who tryed to rip you off and pervert your kids, or the shitskin who tried to rape your daughter....etc....we do it ourselves we don't have big bad adolf handle it for us",,Anonymous,,,,,1501607091 135785032,135802325,2017-08-01 17:07:51,">>135800051 This is pretty much where I stand on the issue. Saved.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501607271 135785032,135802385,2017-08-01 17:08:18,">>135790366 based solution. so Stocks would solve the problem, and new products would show up based more in creativity and uniqueness. I dig it !",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1501607298 135785032,135802931,2017-08-01 17:13:29,">>135801511 >Doesn't give a shit about race The problem with statism is that, in almost all areas, you assume that nothing can be done without the government. It's a scary level of indoctrination. We recognize that all individuals are different, but these differences come in patterns. The average black is less intelligent than the average white, since genes for lower intelligence are correlated, but not exclusive to (or stuck to) the genes for black skin. The free marketer will look at this and shrug, because whoever inherits the best genes should logically prevail in a completely free market, just as they prevailed in the wilderness and throughout history. There was no government program that wrote history to make sure whites would colonize Africa; that happened because of enterprising whites who were able to exploit their intellectual and technological superiority. >If someone that violated the NAP violated it via killing someone, how would that nap violator be taken care of? He'd be taken care of by whatever life insurance or security agency the victim paid for before dying. Essentially it'd be taken care of the same way that public law enforcement would, except with private law/security enforcement, individuals can negotiate their contracts and purchase whatever plans they prefer (or, if they're stupid, forego the concept of security whatsoever).",,Anonymous,deathcap.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,,,1501607609 135785032,135804094,2017-08-01 17:23:22,bump,,Anonymous,Keynesian dinner.png,HMgum2dSsnMEefhkdAzQ8g==,,,1501608202 135785032,135805503,2017-08-01 17:35:34,">>135796328 Use your brain. If currency is linked to production, interest free loans can pay for themselves by the deflationary factor from loans being used to increase production and hence the value of the currency. So the relative purchasing power change is your profit.",,Anonymous,1494706875065.jpg,08MEKDomj4Qrl1zGjN6SOw==,,,1501608934 135785032,135806274,2017-08-01 17:42:15,">>135805503 Dude, listen to yourself. Interest-free loan is literally free money. That's pure communism. Interest-free means a million dollars immediately is worth just as much as a million dollars in a hundred years. It's ridiculous, entirely illogical. Currency linked to production? What does that even mean? How would this be implemented in practice? I should also add that gold is deflationary in nature as well, and I'd bet my bottom dollar that everyone in this thread is a goldbug. Gold standard is simple, elegant, and, best of all, decentralized. It's undoubtedly the best solution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501609335 135785032,135806931,2017-08-01 17:47:44,">>135805503 >currency is linked to production So you're putting forward the labor theory of value, then? Carl Menger wrote the best refutation of this, in my opinion: >There is no necessary and direct connection between the value of a good and whether, or in what quantities, labor and other goods of higher order were applied to its production. A non-economic good (a quantity of timber in a virgin forest, for example) does not attain value for men since large quantities of labor or other economic goods were not applied to its production. Whether a diamond was found accidentally or was obtained from a diamond pit with the employment of a thousand days of labor is completely irrelevant for its value. In general, no one in practical life asks for the history of the origin of a good in estimating its value, but considers solely the services that the good will render him and which he would have to forgo if he did not have it at his command... Your production currency (or time currency) would become virtually worthless over time, because labor-intensive products would cost too much relative to their value (creating a surplus of such goods) and non-labor-intensive products would cost too little relative to their value (creating a shortage of such goods).",,Anonymous,Carl Menger 576x720.jpg,lt92Q1phEEUb8JCX7LFUxQ==,,,1501609664 135785032,135807261,2017-08-01 17:50:34,How many of your goys are going to Unite the Right next week?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501609834 135785032,135807539,2017-08-01 17:53:04,">>135785032 >tfw libertine degenerate c'est la vie",,Anonymous,IMG_2735.jpg,MA7aNvANC3fY4YVPmBBH7g==,US,,1501609984 135785032,135808102,2017-08-01 17:57:43,">>135789224 no. i believe in god but not in an organized religious sense, that is authoritarian and slavery.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501610263 135785032,135809101,2017-08-01 18:05:45,">>135796167 i feel kind of similarly my ideal society is one where white people can do whatever they want and the government fucks off, only existing to keep a military and nonwhites out",,Anonymous,1495469622870.jpg,z2xbkHrvkP6bYRv6MbvGmw==,,,1501610745 135785032,135809122,2017-08-01 18:05:55,,,Anonymous,3065322-Janusz-Korwin-Mikke-Quote-Socialism-is-a-monster-which-will-die.jpg,JPyj5axWbNkVRzWxAsJAtw==,US,,1501610755 135785032,135809755,2017-08-01 18:11:47,">>135805503 As for your interest-free loans that ""pay for themselves"", your circular logic pains me. You're saying >A loan is given out, interest-free >This loan is used to boost production >Since currency is based on production, the value of currency will be increased >The increased value of currency will thus make the loan easier to pay off >Rinse and repeat, deflation continues unabated If this is the case, you clearly have no sense of what deflation is, or even basic economics. Typical natsoc. Deflation increases the value of currency and, as a result, reduces the price level, especially if they are unanticipated (which will be the case, unless everyone knows about every loan taken out at all times of the day). If this happens to a great enough extent, firms financed by credits go bankrupt because, at the lower level of prices, they can no longer pay back the credits they'd incurred without anticipating the deflation (remember, the nominal value of their credits hasn't changed at all). Private households with mortgages and other considerable debts to pay back go bankrupt as well, because with the decline of money prices their monetary income declines as well (remember, you can't pay your workers more than you earn), whereas, again, debts remain at the nominal level, making the debt essentially unrepayable, interest rates or not. Perfectly innocent people, your precious volk as it were, are made miserable and poor by this system.",,Anonymous,BmQ0fWY.jpg,cD5zNcC3NSLHnJ3u3/zb1g==,,,1501611107 135785032,135810859,2017-08-01 18:21:25,,,Anonymous,1xHv9oc.jpg,5a3mYfx2/pDn86tYA+S2Ng==,US,,1501611685 135785032,135811294,2017-08-01 18:25:02,">>135810859 saved that shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501611902 135785032,135813328,2017-08-01 18:42:35,">>135809755 In a deflationary or stable economy, I could see interest free loans be more likely to occur for frequent trustworthy borrowers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501612955 135785032,135814285,2017-08-01 18:50:50,">>135785032 Vagrant victimization when?",,Anonymous,2a9cc154a61e77e325fee0be0acf3d11.jpg,rx3xx7V1SFTaw41nGUqYYQ==,,,1501613450 135785032,135815453,2017-08-01 19:01:16,,,Anonymous,1482709108988.jpg,oXu9j2MatcdU+8uZnKxvCA==,US,,1501614076 135785032,135815891,2017-08-01 19:04:56,">>135814285 now.",,Anonymous,1501472157900.jpg,wBDZcie6rQqt/GNJnTr7lQ==,US,,1501614296 135785032,135817938,2017-08-01 19:23:02,">>135789224 I am an Evangelical Christian, and personally I would only join an ancap community if it was based around strong Christian values.",,Anonymous,nervous.jpg,jop1vOAFEmnnRQbjrPwzQA==,,,1501615382 135785032,135819967,2017-08-01 19:41:36,">>135817938 Tom Woods is a deeply religious ancap; while he's Catholic, you could probably relate: http://www.catholicity.com/commentary/woods/00330.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501616496 135785032,135821357,2017-08-01 19:53:52,Bump,,Anonymous,uemcuyhctlny_0.jpg,sOm38TbG5utcf9F/zKBkpw==,US,,1501617232 135785032,135821415,2017-08-01 19:54:26,">Free the economy. >Free the nipple.",,Anonymous,1477543343524.png,gw51hA30ipJAFPISnMgpxw==,,,1501617266 135829055,135829055,2017-08-01 21:05:59,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. DISCORD LINK: 7UcGBmn THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Chad Ron.jpg,/9BvHNVzpKqyd7qdADTX6g==,,,1501621559 135829055,135830034,2017-08-01 21:14:46,Individual liberty must be preserved,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501622086 135834573,135834573,2017-08-01 21:58:46,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. DISCORD LINK: 7UcGBmn THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed] [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Lauren southern.jpg,RJxd4XmfQkZnYajCko6yuw==,,,1501624726 135834573,135834695,2017-08-01 22:00:02,"Call me when the libertarian party aligns with what Milton Friedman had to say, not ""fiscally conservative, socially pro-faggot XDXD""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501624802 135834573,135834962,2017-08-01 22:02:20,good goy,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501624940 135834573,135835099,2017-08-01 22:03:46,">>135834695 >>135834962 Fags",,Anonymous,focus.gif,qfk5uUjuL8cb9BmJR1BZsA==,US,,1501625026 135834573,135835659,2017-08-01 22:09:05,>>135834573,,Anonymous,physical removal1.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,,,1501625345 135834573,135835825,2017-08-01 22:10:47,">>135834573 id eat lucky charms out of her booty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501625447 135834573,135836015,2017-08-01 22:12:37,"How strong is the ""libertine"" wing of the libertarian movement?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501625557 135834573,135836329,2017-08-01 22:15:40,">>135836015 basically defines the libertarian party anti-hedonism libertarians should align with far-right authoritarians instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501625740 135834573,135836515,2017-08-01 22:17:28,redpill me on scene culture,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501625848 135834573,135839015,2017-08-01 22:43:10,">>135836015 Unfortunately it has become synonymous with libertarianism in the public eye. They think that standing against centralized authority entails standing against discipline and responsibility.",,Anonymous,>libertarianism is degenerate.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1501627390 135834573,135839974,2017-08-01 22:53:54,">>135839015 yes, (((government))) created those special rights, hmmm, yes its was the (((government))) that did it",,Anonymous,file.png,xhRSojctk+CG2vp+26FTZA==,US,,1501628034 135834573,135840228,2017-08-01 22:56:47,">>135839974 Democratic government was the tool, leftists were the perpetrators.",,Anonymous,End Democracy.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1501628207 135834573,135841408,2017-08-01 23:09:13,"Hey guys, what do you propose we call /lrg/ aesthetics. Fashwave doesn't work since our goal is the end of the existence of the state, whereas theirs, as I understand it, is to give it almost total authority.",,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1501628953 135834573,135841777,2017-08-01 23:12:53,">>135841408 Vaportarian (truediltom uses that term) Austwave (from Austrian economics) Rothwave Capwave",,Anonymous,1501454319661.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,,,1501629173 135834573,135842359,2017-08-01 23:18:46,">>135840228 >leftists were the perpetrators. But who created the (((left))) you dense goy?",,Anonymous,bakunin_marx.jpg,krekSzaFPHY91BwCPqRmow==,US,,1501629526 135834573,135843418,2017-08-01 23:30:11,,,Anonymous,3065346-Janusz-Korwin-Mikke-Quote-Before-I-was-nine-years-old-I-had-been-a.jpg,yKlzb2cjB2L5TVxe4gs+Kg==,US,,1501630211 135834573,135843482,2017-08-01 23:30:51,,,Anonymous,1xHv9oc.jpg,5a3mYfx2/pDn86tYA+S2Ng==,US,,1501630251 135834573,135843966,2017-08-01 23:36:09,,,Anonymous,3065322-Janusz-Korwin-Mikke-Quote-Socialism-is-a-monster-which-will-die.jpg,JPyj5axWbNkVRzWxAsJAtw==,US,,1501630569 135834573,135844084,2017-08-01 23:37:21,">>135834573 >""my selfie with a Gadsden shirt on will definitely prove I have something worth while to say.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501630641 135834573,135844273,2017-08-01 23:39:21,">>135834695 >implying Friedman wasn't a crypto-leftist and a threat to liberty https://mises.org/library/milton-friedman-unraveled-0",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501630761 135834573,135844568,2017-08-01 23:42:35,">>135841408 >>135841777 (Trips checked) I'd suggest libertywave or freewave, but that seems too basic and uninspired. I know the leftists are using labourwave. Privatewave? But that doesn't flow well.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501630955 135834573,135844667,2017-08-01 23:43:37,">>135844084 Look at this angry virgin and laugh.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501631017 135834573,135844757,2017-08-01 23:44:44,">>135834573 It's the DUDE WEED general Libertarianism is an acceptable thing to believe in until junior year, senior year if you have nigger tier SAT scores",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501631084 135834573,135844956,2017-08-01 23:46:57,">>135844667 Virgins are the most likely to idolize women without having a real reason to do so. Desperation is funny like that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501631217 135834573,135846184,2017-08-02 00:00:17,">>135834573 You ""anarchists"" are being BTFO over here by ACTUAL anarchists >>135802731 >>135802731 >>135802731 Don't ever use the black flag ever again",,Anonymous,,,,,1501632017 135834573,135846315,2017-08-02 00:01:29,">>135844568 Marketwave?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501632089 135834573,135846558,2017-08-02 00:04:11,">>135846184 >""And then I said they weren't really anarchists, and they were totally destroyed!""",,Anonymous,PicsArt_06-29-09.33.47.jpg,g0oAqPFiEu83ZVf70D+etA==,US,,1501632251 135834573,135847360,2017-08-02 00:12:30,">>135846558 topkek, you fags can only spout memes as real anarchists rip your ""arguments"" like chad's dick in your mom's butt it's a massacre over there",,Anonymous,,,,,1501632750 135834573,135847490,2017-08-02 00:13:52,">>135846315 Pretty good.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501632832 135834573,135847538,2017-08-02 00:14:35,">>135846184 > anarchist > telling people what to do",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501632875 135834573,135847549,2017-08-02 00:14:41,">Libertarian right if you are libertarian already you are in the right side of the spectrum, there is not such a thing like a libertarian left or i was memed?",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1501632881 135834573,135847611,2017-08-02 00:15:18,">>135847360 Ok then, we're not real anarchists - we're better.",,Anonymous,disdain_for_plebs.jpg,4Ec3GualFxwRtlvxT/lRgQ==,GB,,1501632918 135834573,135847826,2017-08-02 00:18:07,">>135847549 libertarian left: > c4ss.org > http://www.mutualist.org/id114.html one good case left libertarians make is against ""vulgar"" libertarians e.g. ones who ignore the plight of the poor. their counter-argument is things like getting rid of the welfare state by cutting taxes ""from the bottom up"", to give the poorfags time to adjust to a free market economy. this could be a good strategy for winning over lefties who realize socialism is inferior to capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501633087 135834573,135847840,2017-08-02 00:18:23,">>135834573 Public service announcement for all the libertarians in the thread, you should all be in New Hampshire. There have been significant gains made in the state by the libertarian party there. A lot of people have gotten elected, meaningful legislation has been passed, and there is an active community, including activists. I really believe in the Free State Project, to the point that I am going to be moving out there before the end of the year. I invite all of you to join me in doing so, I think, if you really believe in the philosophy, New Hampshire is a chance to make real progress and show people that these ideas work when put into practice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501633103 135834573,135848018,2017-08-02 00:20:36,">>135844757 mmkay",,Anonymous,,,,,1501633236 135834573,135848343,2017-08-02 00:24:35,">>135847611 >statism >better",,Anonymous,,,,,1501633475 135834573,135848362,2017-08-02 00:24:50,">>135847826 thanks anon",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1501633490 135834573,135848486,2017-08-02 00:26:13,">>135848343 Anarchy doesn't work.",,Anonymous,You can do it.jpg,Bj6S0zfG+IpZRBIlJ8DqRg==,,,1501633573 135834573,135848726,2017-08-02 00:29:22,">>135847826 Libertarians don't ignore the plight of the poor, we just don't believe that we don't need supporting the poor to be obligated by force. I will say that one blind spot by libertarians is not realizing the role organized religion can play in a voluntary society. Often times churches can step in and take care of the poor, faith and charity go a long way in solving this problem.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501633762 135834573,135849017,2017-08-02 00:32:55,">>135848726 but that's how many libertarians come off when they say they want to immediately abolish the welfare state. hence, taking the incrementalist approach can make it seem more palatable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501633975 135834573,135849108,2017-08-02 00:33:55,">>135849017 The incremental approach is going to be done either way because the government (should be) limited in what it can accomplish per term.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501634035 135834573,135849136,2017-08-02 00:34:13,xU9RRuY,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501634053 135834573,135849362,2017-08-02 00:37:19,">>135847549 >>135847826 another good argument that comes out of the libertarian left... large corporations encounter the economic calculation problem that states do, and become inefficient due to central planning the cause of this is because states subsidize large corporate structures that could not exist in free market left libertarians strongly advocate destroying patent law, state education (which serves to subsidize corporate inputs), and other subsidies that give rise to large, inefficient firms",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501634239 135834573,135849696,2017-08-02 00:40:58,">>135849108 tone down your autism ffs im advocating strategies for redpilling normies part of that is displaying empathy and compromise toward the poor, e.g. emphasizing cutting taxes from the bottom up",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501634458 135834573,135850028,2017-08-02 00:44:40,">>135849362 State education can be a safe guard against corrupt aristocracies forming in the government itself should there ever be enough people who can't afford private education. State education alone on the other hand has the opposite effect. It might be one of those things where a compromise is necessary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501634680 135834573,135850041,2017-08-02 00:44:50,">>135834573 >lauren wishes she was American this badly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501634690 135834573,135850110,2017-08-02 00:45:41,">>135834695 THIS. My friend once tried to sell me on the Libertarian party by saying ""fiscally republican, socially democrat"" and I laughed him out of town.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501634741 135834573,135850113,2017-08-02 00:45:44,">>135848343 If you want to define ancaps as statists, then sure, it's far better than your ""real anarchy""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501634744 135834573,135850311,2017-08-02 00:48:18,">>135849362 We also advocate the destruction of patent law, state education and other subsidies. What's your point?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501634898 135834573,135850553,2017-08-02 00:51:24,">>135834573 Lauren will be ours soon give it six months and she'll be wearing flecktarn and ranting about degeneracy",,Anonymous,jaded Lauren.webm,0g/654oDRAfeJmfWyXCQsQ==,,,1501635084 135834573,135850582,2017-08-02 00:51:46,">>135850311 point is left libertarians have done a better job at describing the causes of and problems within large firms",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501635106 135838715,135838715,2017-08-01 22:39:44,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. DISCORD LINK: 7UcGBmn THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed] [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Lauren southern 2.jpg,HTYtt4UQpaPEVwWfyzvnZQ==,,,1501627184 135906976,135906976,2017-08-02 14:00:56,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,pol_ancap_logo.png,/LJsA5gAO4xY8WeKnompDw==,GB,,1501682456 135906976,135907411,2017-08-02 14:06:10,">people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Fuck off with your conservashit and stormfront appeasements.",,Anonymous,Political_chart.jpg,t2MfNcSIy8WIpg34Sj4teA==,,,1501682770 135906976,135908004,2017-08-02 14:12:08,">>135907411 but anon, we are conservatives",,Anonymous,rothbard_race_realism.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,GB,,1501683128 135906976,135908104,2017-08-02 14:12:57,">>135906976 real wet nigga hours who the fucc up smash that fuccin red menace",,Slovakbro on Vacation,ancap corruption.jpg,Nd7VnLeYI390dqCXjQD0Fg==,GB,,1501683177 135906976,135908204,2017-08-02 14:13:59,">>135907411 good evening to everyone except this faggot",,Slovakbro on Vacation,memri allah sword.jpg,Ds65SAmGFrcxFPLnwnOUsg==,GB,,1501683239 135906976,135908804,2017-08-02 14:20:20,">>135907411 >implying physical removal isn't necessary Remove thine flag this instant.",,Anonymous,hotfuzz24.png,MDj2XFHKZO6U5rkw/LzOKA==,CA,,1501683620 135906976,135908939,2017-08-02 14:21:53,">>135907411 Oh fuck off, having standards and not being a degenerate faggot doesn't make us Nazis. All Reddit AnCaps must be removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501683713 135906976,135909150,2017-08-02 14:23:52,Bring out the flying Austrian death machine!,,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1501683832 135906976,135909237,2017-08-02 14:24:45,">>135907411 >implying traditional values didn't go away because the government forced them to at gunpoint",,Anonymous,crosses.png,tsQKa/8E3hKsCZ3AeSdurA==,,,1501683885 135906976,135909335,2017-08-02 14:25:48,">>135908004 >>135908204 >>135908804 >>135908939 >We're Libertarians. >We believe in negative liberty principles and voluntary interaction. >EXCEPT IF YOU DON'T VALUE CONSERVATIVE VALUES OR LIKE ANYTHING PSEUDO-LIBERTARIAN(TM) APPROVED RACES OR MIXES OF THESE. Wew.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1501683948 135906976,135909340,2017-08-02 14:25:51,">>135909237 This. Thank you Christ Chan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501683951 135906976,135909343,2017-08-02 14:25:50,">>135906976 what is the ideal age of consent for ancaps?",,Anonymous,ancap is best anarchy.png,Bk+SrYj/j+K8wvi7Ig7jFQ==,US,,1501683950 135906976,135909419,2017-08-02 14:26:34,">>135909335 This is a strawman argument.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501683994 135906976,135909798,2017-08-02 14:30:22,">>135906976 in the words of ghandi ""be the change you want to see, faggot.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501684222 135906976,135909818,2017-08-02 14:30:32,">>135909419 It literally isn't. If you believe throwing people off a fucking helicopter is compatible with being in the Libertarian right, you're a fucking moron, on par with thinking Islam is compatible with the west. You're not libertarian, just conservative flirting with parts of what you like from Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501684232 135906976,135909896,2017-08-02 14:31:19,">>135909335 We all voluntarily agree to not associate with and ostrasize left cuckbertatians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501684279 135906976,135910000,2017-08-02 14:32:17,">>135909818 Still a strawman. Physical removal is voluntary ostracisation, which you would know if you had read our literature instead of screeching about those evil paleos and conservatives",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501684337 135906976,135910066,2017-08-02 14:32:39,">>135909818 It's compatible when leftists attempt to seize my means of production.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501684359 135906976,135910140,2017-08-02 14:33:28,">>135909340 One thing that pisses me off more than anything is this: >liberal argues for gay marriage >points out that the government used to not be involved at all in marriage >uses this to somehow argue that the government should get even more involved in marriage >doesn't see the irony in that before the government got involved in marriage, there were no gay marriages",,Anonymous,nervous.jpg,jop1vOAFEmnnRQbjrPwzQA==,,,1501684408 135906976,135910313,2017-08-02 14:35:18,">>135910000 The only instance where ""physically removing"" someone is okay, is if they violate your own negative liberty. Having progressive or post-modern ideological differences from you does not make it fucking voluntary to remove them from existence. >>135910066 Yes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501684518 135906976,135910457,2017-08-02 14:36:50,">>135910066 im coming 4 those MEANS",,Anonymous,,,,,1501684610 135906976,135910617,2017-08-02 14:38:21,">>135910313 You don't understand what physical removal is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501684701 135906976,135910728,2017-08-02 14:39:25,">>135910313 No you can physically remove someone from your property just because you don't like their face.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501684765 135906976,135910852,2017-08-02 14:40:23,">>135910140 Fags should be responsible for creating their own fag marriage institution if anything at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501684823 135906976,135910891,2017-08-02 14:40:45,">>135910457 Not if I physically remove you first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501684845 135906976,135911109,2017-08-02 14:42:44,">>135906976 Natsoc - libertarian alliance when?",,Anonymous,1499876553249.jpg,ZEQFGIArhHfoDarPrHyW7Q==,,,1501684964 135906976,135911175,2017-08-02 14:43:12,">>135910728 Yes, because it's your property. >>135910617 Enlighten me then, enlightened one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501684992 135906976,135911279,2017-08-02 14:44:15,">>135911109 NatSoc really want their gibsmedat tho. As long as I don't have to pay I'll have a non aggression pact with you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501685055 135906976,135911282,2017-08-02 14:44:17,">>135909343 Whatever the general populace will tolerate without being driven to boycotts, prejudice, and dissociation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501685057 135906976,135911743,2017-08-02 14:48:30,">>135911109 I can see it working. Here's the thing, Anarcho-capitalism works best within micro-states, where the ancaps around the world can migrate to and won't have to kill the majority of people who disagree with their system and would try to form a government. IF the NatSoc governments agreed to leave these Ancap micro-states alone, then there would be no problems. If they tried to blockade, invade, or subvert them, then there's going to be problems.",,Anonymous,upotte.png,JLi8RNROlY3ZwJ7p111xXA==,,,1501685310 135906976,135911893,2017-08-02 14:49:52,">>135911175 It's not about 'throwing people I don't like out helicopter's. Physical removal is the ostracization of undesired individuals from your property. In a private covenant, people set certain standards of association as a group. 'Physical removal' is nothing more than, say, a block of people putting up signs saying 'no blacks on my property', which of course they have every right to do.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501685392 135906976,135912143,2017-08-02 14:52:46,">>135911893 Yes that makes a lot more sense. I don't subscribe to this Hoppean bullshit, so excuse me if I'm not in on the context of the lingo, especially when 99% of it is exactly about throwing people out of Helicopters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501685566 135906976,135912202,2017-08-02 14:53:12,">>135906976 Finally I've encountered another person who thinks that discrimination is right and fair and good",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501685592 135906976,135912294,2017-08-02 14:54:01,">>135912143 Even if you don't agree with Hoppe's conservative social views, he's still a great libertarian thinker. Dismissing all of his works would be silly.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501685641 135906976,135912539,2017-08-02 14:55:59,">>135912143 >I don't subscribe to this Hoppean bullshit, so excuse me if I'm not in on the context of the lingo, especially when 99% of it is exactly about throwing people out of Helicopters. Gosh anon, you should stop listening to whatever memer podcast it is that you listen to and just read Hoppe's book.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501685759 135906976,135912737,2017-08-02 14:57:42,">>135912202 It's your choice to dissociate with undesirables",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501685862 135906976,135912772,2017-08-02 14:58:04,">>135912294 To my previous, he was a man that advocated Pinochet-esque means of societal control, so I had written him off as a conservative. Glad to be wiser. >>135912539 I don't listen to podcasts, and I actually don't derive my libertarianism from other libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501685884 135906976,135913419,2017-08-02 15:04:33,">>135912772 What the fuck the word conservative mean to you? Hoppe is a conservative.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501686273 135906976,135914450,2017-08-02 15:13:18,">>135913419 Let me put it this way: it doesn't mean Libertarian to me. Conservatism is not necessarily out to minimize government or its violations of its citizens negative liberties. It's concerned with conservation of the traditional and reactionary responses to change that poses a threat to these values. As you may guess, I'm not well-versed in Hoppe, but you can be Libertarian and still hold conservative views on the family unit and gender roles, for example. I suppose now that this is where he resides.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501686798 135906976,135914973,2017-08-02 15:18:05,">>135914450 You can conserve your traditional values without the state you know. This is the concept of physical removal. You create a community based on a set of values, and anyone who goes against these values or advocates something to the contrary gets forcibly excluded from the community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501687085 135906976,135915699,2017-08-02 15:23:57,">>135914973 >You can conserve your traditional values without the state you know. Which I what I meant with ""you can be Libertarian and still hold conservative views on the family unit and gender roles, for example"". I'm completely in on the idea of communities that impose strict specific values, and would probably just stay out such communities.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501687437 135906976,135916559,2017-08-02 15:30:21,">>135915699 Alright, cool. Understand we are not pandering to Nazis, these are our legitimate views.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501687821 135906976,135916718,2017-08-02 15:31:56,">>135911109 this can work, we just want city states, that will inevitably turn into financial powerhouses, and you want the other land that your people can live on. for an ancap society we would space for people to homestead and get away from the centers. we could work something out nicely, after all, space is big",,EL PRESIDENTE,,,,,1501687916 135906976,135917896,2017-08-02 15:43:14,,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1501688594 135906976,135918167,2017-08-02 15:45:45,get your hoppepill here!,,EL PRESIDENTE,5stagesblack.png,GWMVzgaV1vE2T5rjSPReug==,,,1501688745 135906976,135919722,2017-08-02 16:01:00,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501689660 135906976,135919972,2017-08-02 16:03:38,">>135917896 someone should add race realism to the right side as well",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1501689818 135906976,135920124,2017-08-02 16:05:22,">>135919972 No problem, nigger.",,Anonymous,1491777081387.gif,ufUyAuuCSdPNNfcXgs29jA==,US,,1501689922 135906976,135920641,2017-08-02 16:10:18,">>135920124 cool, post your edit",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1501690218 135906976,135923039,2017-08-02 16:33:24,bump for the edit,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1501691604 135906976,135924893,2017-08-02 16:51:31,">come home from a 15 hour shift at hypermart >notice some of the local techno-tribes are causing some havoc >turn on automatic turrets and decide to patrol my house for a little with my AR15 fully modded >see old mrs jennings from down the mud path walking her dog >she's limping because she's super old >wave to her >""Hey mrs jennings how are you?"" >""oh im good anon, just taking a late night stroll"" >tell her to watch out for the bandits >she nods and waves >keep my eye on her because she's getting too close >she suddenly stumbles, trips on a pot hole, and lands on my property >we lock eyes >she reaches for her colt 45 magnum >I unload an entire magazine into her >loot her body and continue patrol",,Anonymous,IMG_0033.jpg,LsB08kcpjse7Hap6thcQNg==,,,1501692691 135906976,135925801,2017-08-02 17:00:16,">>135924893 bretty gud",,Anonymous,,,,,1501693216 135906976,135926032,2017-08-02 17:02:41,">>135917896 this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501693361 135906976,135926718,2017-08-02 17:08:59,">>135917896 Ancaps don't support borders",,Anonymous,,,,,1501693739 135906976,135926747,2017-08-02 17:09:18,>>135909343,,Anonymous,what if the child consents tho.png,chq4vnTJqJyiwbt8st1apA==,,,1501693758 135906976,135926896,2017-08-02 17:10:46,">>135906976 Anxiously awaiting the day of the helicopter bros",,Anonymous,8e62rfw8b4dz.png,e/Hz62W6PewJ4b0gIypRtw==,,,1501693846 135906976,135927118,2017-08-02 17:12:50,">>135924893 kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1501693970 135938336,135938336,2017-08-02 18:59:47,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_paleos.png,2mYdXJkr73SuUf7IFVNAYw==,GB,,1501700387 135938336,135938592,2017-08-02 19:02:45,What is wrong with civic nationalism if you are willing to remove/punish those in your society that do not contribute to it and cause harm to your people through encouraging culture that go against your society ideals that make it such a great place?,,Anonymous,,,,,1501700565 135938336,135938662,2017-08-02 19:03:23,">>135938336 Keep the commies out.",,Anonymous,1493071087527.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,,,1501700603 135938336,135938812,2017-08-02 19:04:54,">>135938592 >What is social engineering?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501700694 135938336,135938869,2017-08-02 19:05:26,">>135938336 REAL NIGGA HOURS ANTICIPATION THREAD smash that mf reply button",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-02-01.53.47.jpg,oOzYaXSg+m+AFg3h/N3Gyg==,GB,,1501700726 135938336,135938916,2017-08-02 19:05:50,"Reminder, libertarianism doesn't work https://www.texasobserver.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-freest-little-city-in-texas/",,Anonymous,1500338055563.jpg,EdVlAB/LhbrUtCi+DvnNcA==,,,1501700750 135938336,135939037,2017-08-02 19:07:11,">>135938869 I SAID IF U UP, STACKIN MEMES AN BUMPIN ALL DAM NITE YOU BETTER SMASH THAT MF REPLY BUTTON",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_07-22-02.56.59.jpg,A7I3v0IsvCqvzqK0Mx/LAg==,GB,,1501700831 135938336,135939102,2017-08-02 19:07:47,">>135938336 PALEO CREW > NazBol Fagz >>135938592 if you're already being exclusive, why not go full huwhite? >>135938916 >right wing = mental illness lol you're a funny guy for a leftist. >>135938869 also this, smash that shit.",,Anonymous,1501467387596.gif,vsfi2J0kXMHrmZymXzozAw==,US,,1501700867 135938336,135939143,2017-08-02 19:08:17,">>135938869 That's très parfait. >>135938916 Reminder, Marxism doesn't work. https://www.all_of_human_history_you_commie_faggot.ru/why_you_guys_always_turn_state_capitalist",,Anonymous,1489612096988.jpg,RKihOTt+DnF1sn6ams1c1g==,,,1501700897 135938336,135939149,2017-08-02 19:08:24,">>135938916 remember, commies don't work WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE WITH THE FURRIES AND OTHER DEGENERATES",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_06-29-07.32.40.jpg,505WaabB1aU6xs3zICC47w==,GB,,1501700904 135938336,135939154,2017-08-02 19:08:27,">>135938916 >Commie trying to argue what te superior from of political philosophy is",,Anonymous,IMG_2983.jpg,ufSa37dFvR78Dyn4NjdqCA==,,,1501700907 135938336,135939165,2017-08-02 19:08:35,">>135938916 Oh, I saw this article a few days ago. This really isn't an example of muh lolbergtardians btfo - the guy made terrible investment choices, went too quick - tried to cut tax too fast without cutting services or taking loans. This also isn't an ancap city anyway. Funny that you would point to an example of a political experiment failing once with that flag.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501700915 135938336,135939244,2017-08-02 19:09:21,">>135938869 SMASH THAT MF (YOU) BUTTON You never answered me in the discord, why you in britbongistan anyway senpai?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501700961 135938336,135939247,2017-08-02 19:09:22,">>135939149 fuggin saved, great pic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501700962 135938336,135939397,2017-08-02 19:10:48,">>135938812 Are you implying that the use of left tactics to preserve a civic nationalist society is reasonable? >>135939102 What the fuck is huwhite? Is this some sort of stormfront meme? >>135938916 >Mayor of a town can't run shit >Blame Libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701048 135938336,135939453,2017-08-02 19:11:29,">>135939244 learning the beautiful ways of the britons such as making toast sandwiches and running from vans of peace in monsoon-tier rain",,Slovakbro on Vacation,commie manifesto.jpg,gwuWivJVfVlkxMyyoW+6Bg==,GB,,1501701089 135938336,135939534,2017-08-02 19:12:11,">>135939397 The opposite. That's my problem with civic nationalism (tm).",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701131 135938336,135939544,2017-08-02 19:12:18,">>135938336 I feel like I'm slowly slipping away from libertarianism. I'm sorry but 'live and let live' clearly doesn't work with leftists. They must be removed, physically, so to speak. I guess I just need a Pinochet.",,Anonymous,IMG_4018.jpg,Byy9L0nKfSanT7JV4wG6iQ==,GB,,1501701138 135938336,135939559,2017-08-02 19:12:25,">>135939165 They cut taxes just like lolbergs want. They couldn't afford a sewer system, police department, fire department, repave the roads, and animal control. >Muh market fixes everything Nope, capitalism cannot survive without a state. Your entire ideology is a delusion.",,Anonymous,Ancap_405f4d_6054905.jpg,I0kQRlWf7CBXSYyy1QLdXA==,,,1501701145 135938336,135939651,2017-08-02 19:13:24,">>135939397 I don't think actual nazis use stormfront.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501701204 135938336,135939653,2017-08-02 19:13:24,">>135939453 My sides, you split them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701204 135938336,135939671,2017-08-02 19:13:37,">>135939453 desu lad toast sandwiches are pretty good I ate one once as a joke thinking it'd be shit but those things are great with some fresh bread",,Anonymous,file.png,nZpEs5+xFwcwHtQVh3sU4g==,GB,,1501701217 135938336,135939712,2017-08-02 19:13:57,">>135939534 I don't see the issue. If you are taking in the best and give them the opportunity to be the best they can. You not only generate a member of society that contribute and improves it. You also get more people who accept that society and further contribute to it through their kids.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701237 135938336,135939717,2017-08-02 19:14:01,">>135939544 >Pinoshit >Destroyed the country >Hey at least he killed a few political dissidents for the memez guiz xD",,Anonymous,pinochet.jpg,Wu48Wxuf9ssv9NVVSUHzgQ==,,,1501701241 135938336,135939770,2017-08-02 19:14:36,">>135939651 Googling it I was lead towards stormfront.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701276 135938336,135939789,2017-08-02 19:14:46,Is that middle guy Pepe Korwin Mikke?,,Anonymous,,,,,1501701286 135938336,135939805,2017-08-02 19:14:54,">>135939544 My company sells specially designed commie dropping helos.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701294 135938336,135939833,2017-08-02 19:15:09,">>135939544 you're only supposed to let them live if they don't try and murder and steal from you, which leftists do. so get rid of them.",,Anonymous,Commies (1).jpg,yL1qw3koHy3lpzfz0QPPhw==,US,,1501701309 135938336,135939877,2017-08-02 19:15:28,">>135939559 >Nope, capitalism cannot survive without a state. >Every single communist country to date has been muh state capitalism",,Anonymous,girls-laughing.jpg,MGbOjqAuTG6w5nZh7rd/CQ==,GB,,1501701328 135938336,135939894,2017-08-02 19:15:38,">>135939717 Chile is the only developed country in Latin America thanks to him you communist pig. Socialism died with the Soviets, fag.",,Anonymous,IMG_6844.jpg,98Wwmfj4XLx544BIMdTLDQ==,GB,,1501701338 135938336,135939966,2017-08-02 19:16:17,">>135939559 Anarcho-communism wouldn't work without a state. And communist states always turn into state capitalism, with a dictator. I don't think you get to talk about economic or political theories.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701377 135938336,135940014,2017-08-02 19:16:49,">>135939894 This.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701409 135938336,135940068,2017-08-02 19:17:21,">>135939712 Either you have freedom, or you don't. Some faggot telling me what is best for my nation (tm) isn't freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701441 135938336,135940070,2017-08-02 19:17:22,">>135939717 >Chili is now the best country in South America >Lol the country was destroyed. Do a back flip faggot.",,Anonymous,1493676108696.jpg,LHMPszAi3jMC5DHpxhJwfw==,,,1501701442 135938336,135940157,2017-08-02 19:18:11,">>135939877 >>135939894 >>135939966 Captcha: LENINE Customer",,Anonymous,socialismhasneverworked.png,seotNIih61Oxjim4L2Z5dw==,,,1501701491 135938336,135940224,2017-08-02 19:18:52,>>135940070,,Anonymous,FxUpl6u.png,cqv0fM1xzIGL+1MzYKyi2w==,,,1501701532 135938336,135940321,2017-08-02 19:19:50,">>135940157 Captcha: Select all Helicopters.",,Anonymous,file.png,802M6n2IW9PGPVrGYPHbuA==,GB,,1501701590 135938336,135940356,2017-08-02 19:20:12,">>135940157 Yeah, see capitalism does work well. Even state capitalism.",,Anonymous,1489610021756.jpg,+StquRPZhf4H9ECENyO+6w==,,,1501701612 135938336,135940363,2017-08-02 19:20:15,>>135939544,,Anonymous,Libertarianism and it's Faults.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,,,1501701615 135938336,135940421,2017-08-02 19:20:51,">>135939544 Extra Depth",,Anonymous,Libertarianism and Degeneracy.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,,,1501701651 135938336,135940425,2017-08-02 19:20:55,">>135940068 That is an issue however the idea is that one who proves to be a contributor to a society should live free and have a just life. However people who actively try to destroy such a society should just be removed. >>135940224",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701655 135938336,135940443,2017-08-02 19:21:03,">>135939559 Can't survive without a state? Funny that welfare pets like yourself say that.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-03-12.17.05.jpg,/xMONagWxKsT+m219qoO9A==,GB,,1501701663 135938336,135940445,2017-08-02 19:21:03,">>135940224 If that was a Russian made boot, he'd only have one of them. And the one of them he did have wouldn't be made from leather, but the failed Communist Manifesto.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701663 135938336,135940575,2017-08-02 19:22:29,">>135938336 >Left Libertarians: Drug Addicts >Right Libertarians: Their Enablers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501701749 135938336,135940628,2017-08-02 19:22:57,">>135940363 >>135940421 Mhm, I wonder how well national (((socialism))) is do-... Oh.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701777 135938336,135940683,2017-08-02 19:23:23,">>135939717 >muh 3000 gorillion You don't get to disbelieve property rights without rejecting them for yourself, thus making yourself the property of whoever decides that something needs to be done about your retardation.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,allende btfo.jpg,3/2aRCaFCZasALSG/RlAxA==,GB,,1501701803 135938336,135940796,2017-08-02 19:24:17,">>135939789 No, it's Rothbard. We only have Mikke emojis on the discord yet.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501701857 135938336,135940824,2017-08-02 19:24:36,">>135940425 Will you tax me? How're you going to guarantee a dictatorship will not form? Statism isn't the answer, anon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501701876 135938336,135940837,2017-08-02 19:24:41,">>135940068 That is an issue however the idea is that one who proves to be a contributor to a society should live free and have a just life. However people who actively try to destroy such a society should just be removed. >>135940224 >No valid defense lol >>135940363 >>135940421 Ethnic Commie get out!",,Anonymous,1481161559440.jpg,MOu2KPuAYIJ55ftzprAstw==,,,1501701881 135938336,135940871,2017-08-02 19:25:03,>>135940837 see >>135940824.,,Anonymous,,,,,1501701903 135938336,135940933,2017-08-02 19:25:44,">>135940421 you fags weren't libertarians, you were basic bitches we call left libertarians, the kind that allow degeneracy into their libertarian social order. you fags wouldn't accept physical removal and so you got pozzed and enriched. and now you're a pozzed commie who is still enriched.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1501701944 135938336,135941077,2017-08-02 19:27:04,">>135940157 >dubček the guy joined the '89 protesters it was always about having less socialism",,Slovakbro on Vacation,memri communist friend.jpg,HhxpA2TJ1TE6cRFGfMo9Kg==,GB,,1501702024 135938336,135941093,2017-08-02 19:27:11,">>135940356 >Public ownership of the means of production >Capitalism >>135940445 Communism doesn't have the planned obsolescence that capitalism has. Communist products last longer. >>135940443 Yes capitalism cannot survive without a state. Capitalism by definition requires a state to enforce private property rights. Ancaps are doing away with their only mode of protection. Biting the hand that feeds and all that.",,Anonymous,ancapcuck.png,cqwuxIluFXfBIjD6JUF5mg==,,,1501702031 135938336,135941154,2017-08-02 19:27:43,">>135940575 >oh no the drug addicts are gonna OD and kill themselves if we dont save them! ok so whats the problem? you want to rehabilitate them? lol good luck.",,Anonymous,1487113239550.png,ukPMZB9M8hnG4XoFxVqVpw==,US,,1501702063 135938336,135941269,2017-08-02 19:28:56,">>135940933 >How dare they create sets of rights for sub-groups of people we've traditionally shit on and exploited! Degenerates!!",,Anonymous,Petoria.png,mOUC4Mj9rwLtoQosPmCp3A==,US,,1501702136 135938336,135941318,2017-08-02 19:29:22,">>135940824 >No statism Personally don't see a society with Anarchy unless you managed to find a bunch of bright AND intelligent individuals form a society that would form a voluntary society. However it is just not something I see working as it has the flaws that marxism has. Eventually someone is going to get greedy and as you hope to not form, a dictatorship. I feel a small government that gives more power to the local level is the best way to go with this. With a national level of government there to help with larger cooperation among smaller governments. >>135940871 Nigga calm down.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501702162 135938336,135941320,2017-08-02 19:29:23,">>135940421 >implying we're not reactionaries Also, Buchanan was endorsed by Rothbard, so he must have been a kike puppet hell-bent on destroying the West himself.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501702163 135938336,135941330,2017-08-02 19:29:29,">>135941093 Holy fuck, you're so thick. You don't even know what STATE CAPITALISM is. Sad. >Communism doesn't have the planned obsolescence that capitalism has. Communist products last longer. >products Ah, yes, that must be why the USSR was such an economic power house... oh... wait. >Yes capitalism cannot survive without a state. Capitalism by definition requires a state to enforce private property rights. Ancaps are doing away with their only mode of protection. Biting the hand that feeds and all that. It can. But communism can't.",,Anonymous,1489714167546.jpg,hiNxuBrEp2KYIZLYEd3P0Q==,,,1501702169 135938336,135941426,2017-08-02 19:30:31,,,Anonymous,download.jpg,HfrfjpwvJDKTfdSYLeW+Ig==,,,1501702231 135938336,135941446,2017-08-02 19:30:45,">>135941269 civil ""rights"" are an abombination, its in direct opposition to our natural property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501702245 135938336,135941476,2017-08-02 19:31:08,">>135939717 >thinks anything from a commie can be taken seriously Lol, kys homo",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1501702268 135938336,135941498,2017-08-02 19:31:19,">>135941269 >Liberalism is about freedom and equality! >But these groups are more free and equal! Whoa, so complex.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501702279 135938336,135941651,2017-08-02 19:32:57,">>135941446 From whence do you derive these Natural Property Rights? Does it involve invisible winged people?",,Anonymous,Buddy_christ.jpg,3ClxXyzkbkcxa9njKttOOw==,US,,1501702377 135938336,135941843,2017-08-02 19:34:53,">>135941318 Competitiveness keeps people in check. Governments are becoming weaker, corporations are becoming stronger. The issue is cronyism and the exploitation of law and therefore governmental threat. Without that, there wouldn't be cronyist exploitation. >>135941651 My ability to blow your head off if you come into my house.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501702493 135938336,135941999,2017-08-02 19:36:19,">>135941498 >Groups that have been systematically exploited and economically disadvantaged for generations. >But now we can't publicly shit on them, so they ARE NOW MORE EQUAL! I'd like to believe you are young enough to grow out of this asinine way of thinking, but I somehow doubt it.",,Anonymous,Benson.jpg,juapl8BLKWjPGUq/urb+HA==,US,,1501702579 135938336,135942092,2017-08-02 19:37:04,"Real talk: How does an ANCAP society not turn into a feudal state? Like, what's there to prevent one guy to get rich, buy a bunch of land and then force the residents to sell and then declare it to be his own state and that he is king? Obviously not an issue for lesser libertarian capitalist systems where there is a central govt with monopoly of force.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501702624 135938336,135942213,2017-08-02 19:38:12,">>135941843 The very moment that the only thing defending your Natural Property Rights is whatever sidearm you're in possession of, you're basically fucked Early.",,Anonymous,EarlySquidbillies.jpg,BNxeV8/XnXOFvZ4rBko5CQ==,US,,1501702692 135938336,135942258,2017-08-02 19:38:38,">>135941999 Are you fucking serious? I'll give you one example. >Affirmative action That alone, ALONE, utterly destroys your argument.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501702718 135938336,135942290,2017-08-02 19:38:59,">>135941093 >communist products last longer Yeah, like economic retardation causing Eastern Europe to lag behind the West. I'd know a thing or two about that. Also, pretty sure that there was never ""real"" communism, so what products do you mean? I can enforce private contracts against infringement (property crime) with a gun. That's the way things are enFORCEd. You can't run, you can't hide. https://youtu.be/a72QsE0QLHw I bet you have enough experience biting the hand of your professors while they fuck you in the ass.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,pol vs leftypol.png,CpbkBlPCU4PqhrVCq5/a+Q==,GB,,1501702739 135938336,135942374,2017-08-02 19:39:37,">>135942213 >What is private security? You're pretty dumb.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501702777 135938336,135942450,2017-08-02 19:40:23,">>135941843 Though your points are good ones there is still the issue of those who do try as much as they can to ruin others with their greed when they get to a certain size. Look at Wal-mart of an example that can simply drive out competition due to the sheer scale of their operation. I don't find this wrong personally but in a society with no government that mostly removed from business. It could lead to poor decisions and cronyism as it is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501702823 135938336,135942497,2017-08-02 19:40:51,">>135938336 DAILY REMINDER: Geolibertarianism is where it's at. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrClVfO4CpM",,Anonymous,geolib.jpg,VQg5CGVDwJT8pqg0y+9wmg==,US,,1501702851 135938336,135942530,2017-08-02 19:41:06,">>135941330 USSR was socialist. Most of the means of production were owned by worker cooperatives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK6Gr4kfZGk",,Anonymous,waifu.jpg,MZ3bEmqqmvdALSGatqcHKQ==,,,1501702866 135938336,135942602,2017-08-02 19:41:43,">>135942374 >So then I'll buy a small army to defend myself... And then Petoria was Liberia.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501702903 135938336,135942731,2017-08-02 19:42:55,">>135941651 Do you feel in charge over your fingers as you type this? If so, you own yourself. What's the next step on your master plan?",,Slovakbro on Vacation,fiery cia.gif,Q4KBiL5DCq3WxgwI73/5fg==,GB,,1501702975 135938336,135942751,2017-08-02 19:43:10,">>135942497 No it's wicked gay",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501702990 135938336,135942765,2017-08-02 19:43:15,">>135942530 Politically socialist. Economically state capitalist, you moron. >>135942602 I now have the FREEDOM to choose my protectors, not state subsidized (with my tax money) protectors who I don't choose and don't know their efficiency. >What is corporate competitiveness?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501702995 135938336,135942813,2017-08-02 19:43:41,">>135938336 To the Ancap fucks read the Protocols of Zion. They use liberalism to support globalist predatory business and communist to support globalist massive police state. Individual autonomy is good but it ends at the borders.",,Anonymous,1459148475572-1.png,x6rKxLGGaGiA28E72U//ow==,,,1501703021 135938336,135942846,2017-08-02 19:44:00,">>135942751 huh I never thought about that point, good argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501703040 135938336,135942929,2017-08-02 19:44:49,">>135942290 Seriously anon? Take a closer look at the products you buy under capitalism. Most are designed to last 1-2 years at which they start breaking down from poor workmanship and materials. This is planned because capitalism relies on constant consumerism. All these broken goods end up in the landfill. Look at early Ford model vehicles that were built to last. Now cars depreciate by more than half in a few years. Try to get yourself a communist product and you'll see what longevity is.",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,7pz3nQeiG6PwERlv1zd7NA==,,,1501703089 135938336,135942936,2017-08-02 19:44:53,">>135942092 >implying we're not just monarchists LARPing as ancaps",,Slovakbro on Vacation,give up leaf.jpg,6Hp2mMXifn16GRNWljNJTA==,GB,,1501703093 135938336,135942999,2017-08-02 19:45:24,">>135942450 That's because of cronyist monopolies. Without a state to bribe to be able to suppress competition, the consumers vote with their wallets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703124 135938336,135943024,2017-08-02 19:45:35,">>135942936 Neo-fedualists*",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501703135 135938336,135943046,2017-08-02 19:45:48,">>135942813 >What is statism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703148 135938336,135943177,2017-08-02 19:46:56,">>135942731 I'm not the grown adolescent who believes that Lolbertarianism will lead to anything but Feudal Chaos. It's nothing but ""Nice Society you've built here; now imma build a wall around this part of it, and fuck your rules and taxes.""",,Anonymous,Every4years.jpg,r9c3GPX9lkm+OGHrJqF1aw==,US,,1501703216 135938336,135943218,2017-08-02 19:47:15,">>135942497 excuse me I'm trying to stay awake for AUTHENTIC NEGRO TIME OF DAY stop posting your boring ideology lmao goofy lookin ass",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501703235 135938336,135943367,2017-08-02 19:48:47,">>135943177 >Reductionism makes me smart! No, it makes you an intellectually dishonest denailist post-modernist piece of shart. It is safer than letting Eddie the Socialist Dictator take your guns and then when you try and fight back against his totally not capitalist friends, they just slaughter you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703327 135938336,135943482,2017-08-02 19:50:00,">>135943218 If politics/economics is boring to you then you need to reflect on yourself.",,Anonymous,HenryGeorge.jpg,NnqGX6ADYVLfBD0BZ9ON5Q==,US,,1501703400 135938336,135943562,2017-08-02 19:50:56,">>135941330 > It's kinda weird that everyone thinks the USSR was economically weak. It was by most historians estimates surprisingly robust and advanced from being a century behind technologically to being at the forefront of development over the course of 50 years. Then again, MUH COMMUNISM, so you're right. Massive mordernisation doesn't matter.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501703456 135938336,135943633,2017-08-02 19:51:29,">>135943367 This is funny as you're not even being reductionist, you feel you can just spout idiocy like ""Affirmative Action! HAHAH ur arguments are dead!"" If anything, I am trying to carry the conversation down to your level, but it's hard. Maybe I should start drinking.",,Anonymous,megamind_1110-md.jpg,EbwtcJfK0+cSyqNtjIQgFQ==,US,,1501703489 135938336,135943790,2017-08-02 19:53:05,"Can someone recommend me some books on getting started on An-Capism? I want to redpill my friend on it but I got redpilled on An-Capism online and he prefers reading books. I need a book that will give a full rundown on An-Capism",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703585 135938336,135943822,2017-08-02 19:53:27,">>135942258 >Affirmative Action. That shit is broken and should be removed. If minorities can't get into college the correct way, then its the society that they come from that has failed. t. Black who was ignored for dumber Mexicans in Texas. >>135942999 Yes however how do your prevent a corporation from controlling multiple other businesses and changes prices among them to cause fake competition. This is the issue I find with an anarchist system of self government. It just doesn't have check and balances. However the issue is something we have now as it is. The government did cause these to form too but I would believe it would be more rampant with no government. check'd",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703607 135938336,135943868,2017-08-02 19:53:57,">>135943367 >It is safer than letting Eddie the Socialist Dictator take your guns This by the way, just makes you sound like some fringe idiot. Which has traditionally killed the intellectually dishonest Libertarian movement, fringe idiots and their paranoia of the FEMA death camps.",,Anonymous,Hankbat.png,E5f94Txh7CP89ifkf8mDRw==,US,,1501703637 135938336,135943907,2017-08-02 19:54:15,">>135942929 nigga your nervous system is designed to break down as soon as someone mentions the fact that you couldn't hold down a job if you put the combined weight of communism's failures on top of it and your lack of agency and overall human quality will finally kill you in a matter of a few years fuck I could run meme circles around you before your malnutritioned ass even realised what was going on, it's not even funny go back to a board that tolerates this level of delusions of yours to drive up traffic before they ultimately shut it down because of how disgraceful it is >>>/lgbtypol/",,Slovakbro on Vacation,hand.jpg,EkazGjHTxLBEH6e/aKg6fg==,GB,,1501703655 135938336,135943910,2017-08-02 19:54:17,">>135942258 Does it? Cause affirmative action has never been that implemented. Usually people suggest it and then chuds yell it down. When it does happen, it's a half assed measure that doesn't measure up. Now if you did reparations, THAT would defeat the argument. As is, if you're born poor'n'black, go to a broken school and don't eat half the time, but then get told that if you make it into college you'll get a discount on tuition, you're still fucked. Surprise surprise.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501703657 135938336,135943923,2017-08-02 19:54:28,">>135943562 >It was successful, honest! >The USSR collapses. Mhm... >>135943633 >No points found: CHECK! >No argument found: CHECK! You didn't even rebuff my Affirmative Action point, so I guess it got you. Shame, I thought you were wicked smart! Oh wait, you're not.",,Anonymous,mypersonalitytypeaftercaffeine.jpg,UPby9bTkcqdgLqtGGlj4Ww==,,,1501703668 135938336,135944022,2017-08-02 19:55:31,">>135943177 >feudal >chaos senpai",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501703731 135938336,135944126,2017-08-02 19:56:47,">>135943822 Your premise on Affirmative Action rests on the idea that there's some scarcity of seats in college classrooms, and that if they help Juan get a boost up in opportunity, it's at the cost of pushing someone else out onto the sidewalk. Which is untrue. It's the lower education schools in Juan's tax-starved neighborhoods that are overcrowded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501703807 135938336,135944148,2017-08-02 19:56:58,"Friendly reminder that any group that allows a nigger (thatguyt) to be a popular representation of their ideology is degenerate. Do not support degenetarians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703818 135938336,135944158,2017-08-02 19:57:02,">>135943822 >Affirmative Action. Precisely. Journalism and wallet voting. >>135943868 >Still no argument, or point detected, just ad hom. Pass. >>135943910 >Non-whites need not apply And the leaf is blown into the wind, once more.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703822 135938336,135944164,2017-08-02 19:57:07,">>135943482 the only thing I'm reflecting right now is your lack of memetic capability post the MSPaint /pol/ logo for Georgistan, I dare you",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501703827 135938336,135944175,2017-08-02 19:57:16,"I just want my property rights to be respected is that too much to ask?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703836 135938336,135944183,2017-08-02 19:57:20,">>135939559 >Implying I don't want private corporations to own cities and charge rent for public goods.",,Anonymous,1488129399307.png,GV8cJqYI+PQ8K3WD7f35kw==,US,,1501703840 135938336,135944193,2017-08-02 19:57:29,">>135938662 >>135939102 >>135939143 >>135939717 >>135940070 Why does /lrg/ worship a statist who was backed by the (((CIA))) and imposed curfews on an entire country and got rid of democracy and paved the way for it to begin importing shitskins from other poorer south American countries. He's the opposite of individual rights and is quite literally a dictator complete with goosestepping troops and a Nazi inspired anthem to finish it off with Also have this meme against the commies.",,Anonymous,icepick.png,3RUzIwK+l1q9XEd2DVbwmw==,AU,,1501703849 135938336,135944229,2017-08-02 19:57:49,">>135944126 It doesn't just affect academia, you charlatan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703869 135938336,135944300,2017-08-02 19:58:38,">>135943907 >combined weight of communism's failures The only failure of the USSR was that they didn't destroy capitalism :^)",,Anonymous,1501479854997.jpg,9Ulvyv1k1NwDgMwtV8FTpg==,,,1501703918 135938336,135944317,2017-08-02 19:58:48,">>135944193 What?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501703928 135938336,135944356,2017-08-02 19:59:16,">>135943790 Read The Law by Bastiat, even the self-proclaimed educated lefties can't argue against his points after that, read/listen to What Must Be Done by Hoppe and you have an effortless, solid foundation to build upon",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501703956 135938336,135944366,2017-08-02 19:59:21,">>135944164 here's your logo:",,Anonymous,privatelandanyone.png,Io3FyHoTy91vwmlbdhT5+Q==,US,,1501703961 135938336,135944368,2017-08-02 19:59:24,">>135944022 They are hardly exclusive, especially when your nation devolves into local warlords attempting to keep order with their personal armies, as you seem to favor. Or are you confused on the meaning of Feudalism?",,Anonymous,ProfImpossible.jpg,bw+txxjzY+yvkW/jobC+mw==,US,,1501703964 135938336,135944416,2017-08-02 19:59:53,">>135939717 >Commies think that shock therapy is supposed to work immediately.",,Anonymous,chile-miracle.jpg,HFWTmJwk8HS1TjzSGg5+7w==,US,,1501703993 135938336,135944433,2017-08-02 20:00:03,">>135944300 >Unironically thinking communism was successful. >Kills more people than Hitler.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704003 135938336,135944446,2017-08-02 20:00:12,">>135944183 >Being this cucked for porky",,Anonymous,porky2.jpg,+emDEV7qSaEG5x7mzp88kg==,,,1501704012 135938336,135944486,2017-08-02 20:00:34,">>135944229 I'm addressing his point on education because that's how he framed his argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501704034 135938336,135944520,2017-08-02 20:00:54,">>135942813 AnCap is not liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501704054 135938336,135944531,2017-08-02 20:01:00,">>135938916 Oh no, a little city failed, how's that working for the USSR?",,Anonymous,1497593223207.gif,m7DPtSpreCo2Mnx4n7VUWg==,RO,,1501704060 135938336,135944538,2017-08-02 20:01:02,">>135944433 >Kills more people than Hitler. Oh yes all those poor Nazi invaders",,Anonymous,victimsofcommunism.png,4kGK4G28leVBBQSoCxRdxQ==,,,1501704062 135938336,135944590,2017-08-02 20:01:29,">>135944148 >libertaryans >degenerate Daily reminder that Fashitst daddy Pussylini was a civic nationalist, so you're the last to speak.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501704089 135938336,135944689,2017-08-02 20:02:29,">>135944183 >public no we not doin that",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501704149 135938336,135944699,2017-08-02 20:02:39,>>135944531,,Anonymous,f99bd1ddc85f7292669e17f62defaa97295443c9632ac854e27aa9b1ea841f75.png,0aBUj6kmk+O101ejOzhHTA==,,,1501704159 135938336,135944725,2017-08-02 20:02:52,">>135944317 Pinochet was literally a CIA plant. It makes zero sense for anyone to follow him. He is the very definition of controlled opposition. Let alone his actions of being a dictator, and looking more like Nazi Germany then ancap land",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501704172 135938336,135944728,2017-08-02 20:02:53,">>135944193 There actually is. I have gotten a letter stating that I was exactly what they were looking for however due to their process and maybe because I have a loving father that gave me a normal (white) name I got pushed out for others. The drop out rate for this university is large and even people I knew smarter than me dropped out after a semester. There is a scarcity of seats at many top rated Universities. Even the one I went to was crowded as fuck. This issue is that those who do make the decision for those to enter the university have their own personal quotas they want to fill. >>135944193 Memes. Lol I got the helicopter captcha on this.",,Anonymous,1474303651825.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,,,1501704173 135938336,135944733,2017-08-02 20:02:55,">>135944486 I'm addressing your point on Affirmative Action because that's how you framed your argument. >>135944538 >Killing citizenry. Nice intellectual dishonesty, you torpid turd.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704175 135938336,135944751,2017-08-02 20:03:07,">>135944193 Pinochet is a meme. That being said, a dictator was probably the least bad option for the country, given that the communist Allende completely fucked up his country and hundreds of thousands were about to starve. Plus, congress authorized the coup. Check out Axel Kaiser.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501704187 135938336,135944793,2017-08-02 20:03:29,">>135944368 MOOOOOOOT",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501704209 135938336,135944800,2017-08-02 20:03:34,">>135944725 We only worship the part when he threw commies out of choppers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704214 135938336,135944896,2017-08-02 20:04:30,">>135944300 Nah, you got blown out like a candle and masking it with the annual Ministry of Truth report on how to deal with dank meemays on the Internet.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501704270 135938336,135944904,2017-08-02 20:04:32,">>135944800 okay that makes sense now.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1501704272 135938336,135944926,2017-08-02 20:04:47,">>135944733 Yes the nazis also killed millions of Soviet citizens, what's your point?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704287 135938336,135944958,2017-08-02 20:05:08,"I'm curious what fellow An-Caps think of Stefan Molyneux. He dismantles very regularly idiot Socialists/Communists that come onto his show. I can't think of any point that he makes that I disagree on, other than his retarded de-fooing shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704308 135938336,135945023,2017-08-02 20:05:45,">>135944366 You only own land if you alter it, as it's a finite resource.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501704345 135938336,135945120,2017-08-02 20:06:42,">>135944926 >Killing your own citizenry. >I'm doing this for your own good! It is bad you amoral moron. No wonder you're a commie, you don't value human life, or individual sovereignty and growth whatsoever. If you like collectivism so much, go and live in Confucian China.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704402 135938336,135945136,2017-08-02 20:06:53,">>135944733 At this point, you are just transparently in defensive shit-post mode. There isn't an employment scarcity in the US either, aside from the one in the manufacturing sector which was created by your Wealthy Idols seeking a more ""Libertarian"" environment for their production. Stop pretending you were passed up for that Big Promotion so Tyrone could have it as a Gib. We both know that's a fabricated narrative.",,Anonymous,I-know-you-are.jpg,T8MZg6Y/DwDUnQzQaJ/FGw==,US,,1501704413 135938336,135945167,2017-08-02 20:07:08,">>135944368 >warlords Maybe in Amuttica, but Europe is not like that. Dinko would cut immigration in half by himself.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501704428 135938336,135945198,2017-08-02 20:07:28,">>135944958 Stefs pretty based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501704448 135938336,135945207,2017-08-02 20:07:33,"I live in Sweden. If the rule of law falls in my country I am going to go around my country and just kill communists. I am not even going to give them the helicopter treatment. I am just going to dig deep graves in the forest and either shoot them in the head or beat them to death. Then bury them,. This is funny enough a mainstream opinion in Sweden. Even immigrants hate communists. We will kill you red scum. We are going to bury you. We are going to rip your limbs from your body. This is not a threat. This is a promise.",,Anonymous,700_ronald_reagan_quote.jpg,1sZziqh9jbkE228Jza4oVg==,SE,,1501704453 135938336,135945332,2017-08-02 20:08:45,">>135944699 >ableist I'm a cripple and less of a bitch than commies, Jesus Christ.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501704525 135938336,135945363,2017-08-02 20:09:03,">>135945023 are you retarded? If I buy land I don't have to alter it to maintain ownership. In fact, we're incentivizes to NOT alter it since by improving the land we are also increasing the taxes we have to pay. It's why Georgism is the solution to that.",,Anonymous,Screenshot (193).png,2aHiB3s+mL2yM+064Yxlfg==,US,,1501704543 135938336,135945433,2017-08-02 20:09:36,">>135945136 You haven't made a valid point in several posts. There was nothing to argue, so I don't need to make an argument. I'm just dicking your slack asshole after having pounded your commie cunt into the dirt.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704576 135938336,135945434,2017-08-02 20:09:36,">>135945207 Prove it Swedistan citizen.",,Anonymous,1478515640480.jpg,YDiTeUPtm/IDQTYJJFUiLA==,,,1501704576 135938336,135945504,2017-08-02 20:10:12,">>135945434 Jag har slagit sönder mängder av kommunister på krogen.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1501704612 135938336,135945563,2017-08-02 20:10:46,">>135945167 Yeah, Europe has NEVER shown a tendency to fragment and Balkanize along every possible ethnic, religious or completely fabricated fault-line imaginable. You can't be serious. The VERY MOMENT the darkies from the desert are gone, you'll resume picking away at each other.",,Anonymous,1385662391465.jpg,mTMZT+Cf7dlrYHasprnL1g==,US,,1501704646 135938336,135945598,2017-08-02 20:11:01,">>135944926 Better dead than Red. He did them a service, though as a Slav I'd have preferred a less invasive approach.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501704661 135938336,135945632,2017-08-02 20:11:18,">>135945207 is it really mainstream to hate communism is swedistan? It seems pretty commie up there to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501704678 135938336,135945651,2017-08-02 20:11:31,">>135945433 Another fine example.",,Anonymous,1482036551382.png,45GK0A3l5zjoLIBtZHc3fg==,US,,1501704691 135938336,135945674,2017-08-02 20:11:37,">>135945563 >I like to play Nostradamus! Supposition isn't an argument.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704697 135938336,135945703,2017-08-02 20:11:50,">>135943046 What? >>135944520 Extreme liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704710 135938336,135945755,2017-08-02 20:12:20,">>135945651 >Projection. Yes, I know your last few posts have been utterly shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704740 135938336,135945781,2017-08-02 20:12:35,">>135945563 easy, we diaspora the krauts",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501704755 135938336,135945789,2017-08-02 20:12:38,">>135940157 But none of those states were real communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704758 135938336,135945815,2017-08-02 20:12:52,">>135945674 It's not my fault you ignore the context of history in your fevered Utopian imaginings.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501704772 135938336,135945818,2017-08-02 20:12:52,">>135945703 I'm so ""liberal"" that im basically a monarchist at this point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501704772 135938336,135945837,2017-08-02 20:13:03,">>135945632 Everyone who is not a communist hates them. This is not a joke. Send weapons, ammo and fighters when our civil war lights up. If you want to kill commies, come here when we have our civil war.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1501704783 135938336,135945968,2017-08-02 20:14:13,">>135945703 >laissez-faire approach Hippity hoppity, not on my property. Hipenku, hopenku, nie na mojom pozemku.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501704853 135938336,135945972,2017-08-02 20:14:15,">>135945703 Jewry only functions because of state backed cronyism. >>135945815 Touché, the retard doth protest too much, methinks. >I'm calling you a hypocrite, it might be too cultured for you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704855 135938336,135945978,2017-08-02 20:14:17,">>135944728 This you lol? >>135945120 >It is bad you amoral moron. Where did I say it wasn't? Capitalism kills more people anyway. >you don't value human life There are 3 million homeless people in the US but 15 million empty houses. Capitalists don't give a shit about human life, just profit and maintaining their power through the system. >individual sovereignty Yes if only I respected the exploitation of the working class. That's how we achieve peak freedom. >and growth whatsoever USSR rapidly industrialized under Stalin and put the first man in space. If that isn't growth I don't know what is. On the other hand, capitalism inhibits technological growth. It locks potential engineers and scientists out of work behind a pay wall.",,Anonymous,helicopter.jpg,y33TGLyuwekCXRz/7457AQ==,,,1501704857 135938336,135946011,2017-08-02 20:14:29,">>135940575 You say that like it's an issue.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1501704869 135938336,135946080,2017-08-02 20:15:10,">>135945978 >I like to conflate cronyism with capitalism. And argument just went, POOF!",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704910 135938336,135946168,2017-08-02 20:16:03,">>135945837 >Civil War in Sweden to uncuck it. I want to believe. I really considered it a place to travel to and possibly immigrate to when younger before I realized how bad it was. >>135945978 >Resorting to calling someone a virgin. Nice projecting there fag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704963 135938336,135946186,2017-08-02 20:16:14,">>135945818 Then you don't even know what you are. American 'liberals"" are socialists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501704974 135938336,135946245,2017-08-02 20:16:50,">>135945837 >born just in time to stain beautiful virgin Nordic nature red with the blood of traitors",,Slovakbro on Vacation,gondola couch.jpg,Yz6/+CcUIgR4fLcIfE56CQ==,GB,,1501705010 135938336,135946283,2017-08-02 20:17:12,">>135944446 >HURRRR.... CORPORATIONS ARE TYRANNY Chomskyite pinkos pls go. Having a private organization collect rent for public goods eliminates rent-seeking behavior. If leftists weren't dumbasses, they would realize corporations are legal vehicles to change politics. But thankfully, they're dumb as dirt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501705032 135938336,135946361,2017-08-02 20:17:54,">>135945598 >Better dead than Red Be careful what you wish for ;^) >>135946080 >Wasn't real capitalism Nice >>135946168 Nah it's response to the stale helicopter memes.",,Anonymous,ab519ab2798bfaf1e7f7aabe2429acc86c12cd27cbb02c153962dd9b797c39bf.jpg,5I3zIAJz4lFkzgfVCzpGvA==,,,1501705074 135938336,135946363,2017-08-02 20:17:55,"Honestly An-Capism seems perfect. I can't find a flaw with it. Even with free immigration, no welfare state would outlaw people coming in and shitting up the country. The real question for An-Caps is how exactly we get there. If we could figure that out, we've figured out how to live.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501705075 135938336,135946487,2017-08-02 20:19:02,">>135946186 yeah people who identify as liberals today in america are commie scum. But actual liberal democrats are also a bunch of fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501705142 135938336,135946511,2017-08-02 20:19:13,">>135946283 That burn. >>135946361 >Nice. Hypocrites don't get to pass judgement, fuckhead. Besides, it isn't. Crony corporations only get away it because they're back by statism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501705153 135938336,135946539,2017-08-02 20:19:26,">>135946361 >Stale Bitch that shit is so fresh its spilling into normie everyday talk now.",,Anonymous,1485450088768.jpg,shtbrxp3pN+eFiYNH7o9eQ==,,,1501705166 135938336,135946541,2017-08-02 20:19:26,">>135945972 That is the point of what I said in the first post. They use the communist vs liberal dichotomy to push and protect their own goals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501705166 135938336,135946567,2017-08-02 20:19:47,">>135938336 Lolbertarians just need to die",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501705187 135938336,135946568,2017-08-02 20:19:48,">>135944689 >ancuck sperg dismisses anything with ""public"" in it. ""Public good"" is a formal economics term.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501705188 135938336,135946665,2017-08-02 20:20:42,">>135946541 Oh, sorry. >>135946567 That's awfully high tier discourse, for such a small man. >When brainlets try and realpolitik the post.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501705242 135938336,135946672,2017-08-02 20:20:50,">>135946363 lel you cant really believe this.. Ancap = Autism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501705250 135938336,135946683,2017-08-02 20:20:55,">>135946363 >no flaw lmfao see: >>135944366",,Anonymous,Screenshot (191).png,fB4U2pjeLvJQSREOL46WxA==,US,,1501705255 135938336,135946726,2017-08-02 20:21:18,">>135946539 Fuck forgot I forgot that I have a setting that changes file names. Should be: only good commie.jpg",,Anonymous,,,,,1501705278 135938336,135946794,2017-08-02 20:21:59,">>135946672 >Being atypical is bad! I know you commies ae collectivist scum, but come on, don't be so overt!",,Anonymous,,,,,1501705319 135938336,135946884,2017-08-02 20:22:50,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1501705370 135938336,135947285,2017-08-02 20:26:39,">>135944699 >le politically correct capitalist depiction >implying they are not the jews all along",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1501705599 135938336,135947307,2017-08-02 20:26:59,">>135944446 >not allowing people to make more money based on risk and liability I guess the government will provide us with all the stuff we need to produce things, then we can abuse it as much as we can! Who cares how many people get hurt, or how many resources we waste!",,Anonymous,1475292714110.jpg,/a0L8PNoshRuw/5A6AlXyQ==,,,1501705619 135938336,135947398,2017-08-02 20:27:42,">>135946665 >>135946487 >>135945968 I do like less government too. But the problem is the liberal global free trade that purists push, remember to always counter them as they are jew puppets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501705662 135938336,135947523,2017-08-02 20:28:47,">>135947398 This.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501705727 135938336,135947543,2017-08-02 20:28:55,">>135944531 Or rather any other communist or socialist state. Right? >>135938916",,Anonymous,CommieVen.png,jiy0UGZc2PWN6dLbs7kjqQ==,,,1501705735 135938336,135947898,2017-08-02 20:32:15,">>135945978 >he got his ass beat by this see how he recoils",,Slovakbro on Vacation,FB_IMG_1501720267160.jpg,sOaUAXttC78YjgJJKr2VKw==,GB,,1501705935 135938336,135947956,2017-08-02 20:32:47,,,Anonymous,govtdindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1501705967 135938336,135948011,2017-08-02 20:33:21,">>135946363 WHAT MUST BE DONE",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501706001 135938336,135948128,2017-08-02 20:34:30,">>135947956 Take a closer look at that snout",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501706070 135938336,135948168,2017-08-02 20:34:56,">>135946568 >public nibba if one person owns it it's not exactly public",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501706096 135938336,135948191,2017-08-02 20:35:07,">>135948128 Honourary Aryan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501706107 135938336,135948278,2017-08-02 20:35:57,">>135948128 >>135948191 This. The only Jew ever to be an honorary Aryan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501706157 135938336,135948409,2017-08-02 20:37:07,">>135948168 A corporation is jointly owned, by definition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501706227 135938336,135948460,2017-08-02 20:37:39,">>135947398 That's a valid criticism. Some cultures are so incompatible that they will refuse to trade - and that is a good thing. Honestly, capitalism not only as a term, but also as a practice has been perverted by neos and globalists.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501706259 135938336,135948666,2017-08-02 20:39:39,">>135948128 >Rothbard >5'6"" >economist honestly if you think we missed this detail, you're slow",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501706379 135938336,135948898,2017-08-02 20:42:12,">>135948409 Okay, but the owners in the absence of the state still have ownership over the service, with everything that entails.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501706532 135938336,135949289,2017-08-02 20:46:19,">>135939397 yea its how jared taylor says white from memory",,Anonymous,,,,,1501706779 135938336,135949465,2017-08-02 20:48:10,">>135946361 >Nice Très bien, my commie friend",,Anonymous,,,,,1501706890 135938336,135949957,2017-08-02 20:53:30,>>135946361,,Slovakbro on Vacation,l0Iy8Vok5QnA3xklO.gif,n38eeE53o2IIY0K1gjv9/A==,GB,,1501707210 135938336,135950156,2017-08-02 20:55:27,,,Anonymous,19437716_1604033819655007_8869932370820195295_n.png,J6hye+Y8N8XZVH/ouKQyyA==,US,,1501707327 135938336,135950411,2017-08-02 20:58:03,">>135944193 In a goverment with Allende on it, we needed someone and that someone was Pinochet, this man helped our country and now, we have one of the greatest economies in South America",,Anonymous,Chile take off.jpg,fTmzrGFlDIt2rIMzoCwSuw==,CL,,1501707483 135938336,135950474,2017-08-02 20:58:48,">>135950411 This.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501707528 135938336,135950590,2017-08-02 20:59:51,Libertarian death squads check in,,Anonymous,1500899073866.jpg,JdT/5uo6wYWQqiwacLA9DA==,,,1501707591 135938336,135950644,2017-08-02 21:00:22,">>135938916 You also posted this in /leftypol/, and I pointed out why it was retarded and you had a weird meltdown. Fuck off and die, communist.",,Anonymous,1470511306812.png,DEX4IvAT0dUk6R9Pz7s/7w==,,,1501707622 135938336,135950703,2017-08-02 21:00:59,">>135944958 He's pretty awesome desu senpai",,Anonymous,1486676566234.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,,,1501707659 135938336,135950746,2017-08-02 21:01:29,">>135950590 Reporting in. helicopter removal first squadron.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501707689 135938336,135950842,2017-08-02 21:02:26,">>135940157 >Allende If socialism means starving to death in 1972, sure, it worked",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1501707746 135938336,135950896,2017-08-02 21:02:57,">>135939717 If this is true, then why is our country so great in terms of economy? Because let me remind you that before Pinochet, we were nothing but ""another 3rd world country from south america"", nothing else, really, also >45% of the population below the poverty line Not really, you see, what you call ""poor"", is actually what's left from Allende's regime, not Pinochet's. Now, about that ""Hated by the entire population"" If that's true Then why did the 49% of the people voted that they wanted him to still be president in 1988?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1501707777 135938336,135950900,2017-08-02 21:03:03,">>135939544 That's exactly what Hoppean libertarianism is all about Commies break the NAP simply by existing, so they must be physically removed",,Anonymous,1501702994378.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1501707783 135938336,135951160,2017-08-02 21:05:31,">>135939717 Umm retard Pinochet improved his country dramatically",,Anonymous,,,,,1501707931 135938336,135951334,2017-08-02 21:07:23,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-02.02.35.jpg,QDfv/Oa8CgUpzMvzx3EG8g==,US,,1501708043 135938336,135952161,2017-08-02 21:15:33,">>135946884 ok ill buy all the property surrounding your property and shoot you when you try to get out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501708533 135938336,135952511,2017-08-02 21:18:49,">>135939154 Reminder that ancapism is literally individualist-communism, a combination of the two worst ideologies in history.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501708729 135938336,135952564,2017-08-02 21:19:16,">>135946361 It was /leftypol/ tier and it was on 4chan.",,Anonymous,1501221503479.jpg,TdjAkonJgTHMTIJgiuvxzQ==,,,1501708756 135938336,135952607,2017-08-02 21:19:39,">>135952161 Try it faggot, see what happens.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501708779 135938336,135952718,2017-08-02 21:20:49,">>135952511 >individualist-communism",,Anonymous,Confused-Jacksonville-Jaguars-fan-in-stands.gif,tAIXGzEKM8zZa0Un9WpgEQ==,,,1501708849 135938336,135952761,2017-08-02 21:21:09,">>135938336 Is this the real /lrg/ anthem? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNl0ThJ8uto",,Anonymous,pinochet2-300x200.jpg,w7F/UpRhrxZ98KTH2K+Pcw==,CL,,1501708869 135938336,135952931,2017-08-02 21:22:43,">>135952718 Exactly.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501708963 135938336,135953004,2017-08-02 21:23:28,">>135944590 You have a nigger supporting your views and it has popularity, you can't call your group ""libertaryans""",,Anonymous,1491784876877.jpg,OGtY4V9e3GdDvb3LkJsu0Q==,,,1501709008 135938336,135953112,2017-08-02 21:24:33,">>135953004 You know there's nigger fascists too right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501709073 135938336,135953487,2017-08-02 21:28:09,>>135952931,,Anonymous,1473885724063.jpg,cTXGunlN8HMpcwU58tPoQg==,,,1501709289 135938336,135953600,2017-08-02 21:29:04,">>135940157 >lists 13 failed socialist societies What did he mean by this? >>135939717 That pic literally lies, the wages increased. >>135938916 See >>135950343",,Anonymous,allende.png,wyumQsAU3p8daKru8DEqLQ==,,,1501709344 135938336,135953701,2017-08-02 21:29:58,">>135944725 But this is the perfect leader for them. Ancaps are literally just fake Stalinists, controlling their tiny little segment of the state as if it were a great empire.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501709398 135938336,135953707,2017-08-02 21:30:02,Remember that the only reason why the Soviets were able to grow so rapidly is that they put a capitalist in charge!,,Anonymous,NewEconomicPlan.png,9M3pCMkenSBXTObZAUKMkQ==,,,1501709402 135938336,135953778,2017-08-02 21:30:35,This is a pic of economic freedom per nation.,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-08-02 at 7.28.59 PM.png,pBYU58MyIxf1OGZ5iwS9AQ==,,,1501709435 135938336,135953804,2017-08-02 21:30:56,">>135953778 This is a pic of the Human Development Index per nation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501709456 135938336,135953855,2017-08-02 21:31:17,">>135953778 This is a pic of the Human Development Index per nation",,Anonymous,3rd world.png,VBXoX+NhkFXhhLKfutuL0Q==,,,1501709477 135938336,135953882,2017-08-02 21:31:37,">>135953487 So you get that ancapism is just capitalism at the point of a sea of droolers. Why are you still promoting the idea? Ironic accelerationism?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501709497 135938336,135953893,2017-08-02 21:31:42,">>135953778 This is a pic of the GDP per capita per nation.",,Anonymous,capita.png,of3KHMcErGQQXX1YGGUhKA==,,,1501709502 135938336,135953944,2017-08-02 21:32:13,">>135941093 >Yes capitalism cannot survive without a state. Capitalism by definition requires a state to enforce private property rights. Ancaps are doing away with their only mode of protection. Biting the hand that feeds and all that. Every heard of private security lmao - the idea is that you enforce your own property right amirite >>135941330 ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501709533 135938336,135954008,2017-08-02 21:32:50,">>135953778 >>135953855 >>135953893 As you can see, the more economic freedom a nation has, the more economic prosperity it has.",,Anonymous,arms.jpg,4/uzlDntH0fN55AWkubtyQ==,,,1501709570 135938336,135954037,2017-08-02 21:33:07,">>135939544 As long as they don't use the state to redistribute/control they're the problem is once the state has enough power those fags can take over.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501709587 135938336,135954073,2017-08-02 21:33:26,">>135953778 All shitholes ruled by feminists and ziocon psychos. We already have ancapism and it is the worst civilisation in history.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501709606 135938336,135954152,2017-08-02 21:34:15,">>135954073 This is your alternative.",,Anonymous,smog.jpg,hNocdZVFY80EHNzKdIuGaw==,,,1501709655 135938336,135954170,2017-08-02 21:34:22,">>135953882 I'm not AnCap and don't agree with it, but you're a fucking retard if you think there's such a thing as individualist communism",,Anonymous,,,,,1501709662 135938336,135954362,2017-08-02 21:36:14,">>135954073 Go move to Syria",,Anonymous,,,,,1501709774 135938336,135954363,2017-08-02 21:36:14,">>135954008 fugging finally thank you",,Anonymous,12447534651.gif,ZRdQctjwh4L6oNq1IvsA7w==,,,1501709774 135938336,135954476,2017-08-02 21:37:31,">>135954170 There is. It's a joke for ancaps to dismiss anarchism, but at the same time it is their very ideology. Have you ever looked into what they suggest ancap society would look like. It is literally a conglomerate of Stalinist run towns, villages, and cities. They don't need a state because every man is a Stalinist for his own little segment and the local corporation keeps people in line.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501709851 135938336,135954589,2017-08-02 21:38:42,">>135954152 A capitalist proxy? I'm not an ancap-globalist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501709922 135938336,135954593,2017-08-02 21:38:44,">>135953778 living in germany I always wondered about what measures they use to determine economic freedom for those statistics. How can anyone talk about economic freedom with an effective tax rate of over 50% if not more. Ignoring the retarded amount of regulation. Or is the world in fact a socialist hell bound on crushing all our hopes and dreams?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501709924 135938336,135954719,2017-08-02 21:40:02,">>135953004 Non-argument.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501710002 135938336,135954790,2017-08-02 21:40:37,">>135954362 Okay, because that is somehow connected to what was said...",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501710037 135938336,135954816,2017-08-02 21:40:52,">>135954476 That's neither individualistic or communism, christ you're retarded even for a leaf",,Anonymous,,,,,1501710052 135938336,135955014,2017-08-02 21:42:42,">>135938336 Anarchists whether they're Capitalist or not are fucking retarded. All forms of anarchy are retarded.",,Anonymous,Chink DEVOURS unbourne children.webm,nPTnjdcDBW0msDGdeqr1mA==,,,1501710162 135938336,135955083,2017-08-02 21:43:21,">>135954593 There are a lot of little things other than tax that evade our eyes because we're not business owners. Regulations, tariffs, subsidies, state-owned businesses, etc. >>135954589 You complain about free market capitalism yet all your other options are usually just as degenerate (if not worse) and far more poor.",,Anonymous,gtfo.gif,H9G3yfEoa7eSVgaoj1JKLg==,,,1501710201 135938336,135955463,2017-08-02 21:46:42,">>135954593 Not to mention corporate tax and capital gains tax vs. income tax. Sweden actually has a better corporate tax rate than the USA, for example, so their businesses suffer less although their personal incomes of the CEO's are affected.",,Anonymous,carpenter.jpg,fx1Xu2bXXdaUnmo1/bc7vw==,,,1501710402 135938336,135955631,2017-08-02 21:48:19,"Reminder if you like Trump than your not a libertarian Reminder if you want incredibly strict border control your a protectionist and just a puppet for racists with no care about individualism when it no longer suits you and dont understand how the government already block and limit skilled workers already especially in medical care and you are just off shoot of Rothbard redneck appeal gone awry",,Anonymous,funkyfrog.gif,ltbrS0cb7PZxSYTULryOag==,,,1501710499 135938336,135956043,2017-08-02 21:52:12,">>135955631 >incredibly strict border control your a protectionist That's not even what protectionism means. >if you like Trump than your not a libertarian Yeah, cause I'm sure Gary ""bake the cake"" Johnson would have decided to destroy 2 regulations for each one passed.",,Anonymous,estonia.gif,UEoFY7RsBCHw7wzszQt2xA==,,,1501710732 135938336,135956627,2017-08-02 21:57:50,">>135956043 >le bake cake meme Really that matters more than ending our mass military expansion, trampling of privacy reducing and ending the counter productive war on drugs, abolishing the minimum wage, ending the militarization of police, returning to a gold standard ending foreign intervention and not having extra traffic and causing trade wars, bringing down our mass prison population but all those matter less than that right",,Anonymous,,,,,1501711070 135938336,135956673,2017-08-02 21:58:18,">>135955631 read nations by consent",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501711098 135938336,135956701,2017-08-02 21:58:33,">>135955083 sure, the taxation was just what bugs me the most. But generally Germany isn't going easy on regulation either. In fact it's so ridiculous they managed to bully uber out of the country. Actually you do not even have any right to your property unless you're using it in a social beneficial way. (Which finds it application in the fact that you're not allowed to own a house you're not using yourself nor renting out) I honestly can not imagine how anyone can call this country free in an economic sense unless you're comparing it to a soviet style economy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501711113 135938336,135956916,2017-08-02 22:00:39,">>135953944 The problem with having to enforce your own property rights is the moment your property is vacant its all free game. You would have to be there 24/7 or hire someone who would do that for you. You would also have to trust this person to not rob you blind, burn down your house, and then disappear. It also just doesn't make economic sense to hire a person to do this when you can just pay taxes instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501711239 135938336,135957166,2017-08-02 22:03:04,">>135952607 what are you gonna do? If you violate my nap i will kill you in self defense and if you try to get off your property i will kill you for trespassing",,Anonymous,PrivateProperty.png,9VKYGMIc6HQmxxtyUJIh+w==,US,,1501711384 135938336,135957276,2017-08-02 22:04:19,">>135956627 >assuming Gary Johnson would have done any of that He was an unprincipled idiot, he would have done nothing.",,Anonymous,bear.jpg,XQkaHC+HYdFcvGwVzcspxg==,,,1501711459 135938336,135957331,2017-08-02 22:04:56,">>135955463 taxes are not all the same https://youtu.be/Aaq2UXW0krA?t=8m45s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501711496 135938336,135957375,2017-08-02 22:05:28,">>135956673 I understand that argument but what if someone who is law abiding person no criminal background wants someone for them to be there what about the right of individual entrepreneurship, business benefit from immigration more than they are hurt by it. And dont give me that welfare crap that cant have that for five years also how do you give a moral argument about immigrants being degenerates and dont have/ want a work ethic when the guy who created this literally try to make moral arguments for ""consensual rape"" along with starving and having sex with kids rothbard was just an edge lord and shit poster",,Anonymous,this a comment worn out shoe.png,s//ua82AC8RIZx2YoeyUvQ==,,,1501711528 135938336,135957509,2017-08-02 22:07:02,">>135938336 Are PMCs the true ANCAP security choice?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501711622 135938336,135957524,2017-08-02 22:07:06,">>135940157 If your position is government/violence ruins your voluntary system, then consider us on the same team.",,Anonymous,ancap handshaking.jpg,d3BaH3FuA1wVmMBI1F+lWQ==,,,1501711626 135938336,135957553,2017-08-02 22:07:26,">>135957276 Trump is the least with principled and honest peson you are lying if you think anything else and he did a job as governor reducing government size than with a surplus, but you want them dumb wall and pissing off leftists that means more to you than actual change",,Anonymous,boiii.jpg,iYRdFfODeFDDYbV0LglTiA==,,,1501711646 135938336,135957633,2017-08-02 22:08:16,">>135957553 trump is the least principled and honest person excuse me",,Anonymous,,,,,1501711696 135938336,135957676,2017-08-02 22:08:43,">>135953893 nice colors",,Anonymous,ancaphd.png,e+3YcsMzYN/r1v6szZuHYg==,,,1501711723 135938336,135958054,2017-08-02 22:12:35,">>135955463 I get what you're saying, but the effects of taxation are manyfold and often hidden. I'm actually having a small app business with a friend. Our software primarily sells in the US. When things started going well, we of course thought about employing someone, so we can expand. Now, when you look at the direct tax rates, you think it's ok for most people and businesses, but since employers have to pay part of the social benefits their employee gets, (pension and such), the actual cost would have risen for us to a degree we would have expected for our personal income to shrink below what you get from unemployment benefits, while our employee of course would have actually made way more than the business owners. At the same time we would have been exposed to incredible risk, thanks to employee protection. You can imagine, that we did not hire anyone. But thing is, while these benefits are officially not declared a tax, it has the very same effect and is otherwise virtually undistinguishable from taxation - and created due to the imposed costs a regulatory effect that hindered business effectively. And I can not imagine, it's much different for most other start ups. (Though, of course we could have taken a loan, but that's another topic.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1501711955 135938336,135958649,2017-08-02 22:18:53,">>135958054 Maybe things are just even worse in the other nations. I mean, sure, Germany is no bastion of economic freedom, but it still is likely doing better than, say, Ukraine or Russia. I'm not saying things aren't bad in Germany, I'm just saying that the chart goes by nations relative to other nations, so perhaps things are just even worse in most other places.",,Anonymous,python.png,nEmmH9bZRL4eWihyaM877Q==,,,1501712333 135938336,135958664,2017-08-02 22:19:03,">>135957524 that image triggers my autism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501712343 135938336,135958699,2017-08-02 22:19:24,Who wants aesthetics?,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1501712364 135938336,135958930,2017-08-02 22:21:59,">>135957524 The only anarcho-capitalist in that picture is Rothbard",,Anonymous,,,,,1501712519 135938336,135959023,2017-08-02 22:22:51,">>135958649 that's what I was being afraid of. I had this little glimpse of hope that whoever makes these charts just thought 'oh well, germany. They're doing so well. Of course they're economically free.' Anyway, thanks for confirming my worst nightmares.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501712571 135938336,135959116,2017-08-02 22:23:56,">>135955631 Fuck off leftist libertarian cuck, see >>135950900 You are on the left side",,Anonymous,,,,,1501712636 135938336,135960055,2017-08-02 22:33:48,">>135942092 >Like, what's there to prevent one guy to get rich, buy a bunch of land and then force the residents to sell and then declare it to be his own state and that he is king? The only legitimate way to claim land is to a) appropriate unappropriated land (i.e. mix your labor with it) b) receive property as a gift c) buy property while b) and c) can be traced back to a). That means no one could say an unappropriated plot of land is his without having mixed his labor with it",,Anonymous,,,,,1501713228 135938336,135960280,2017-08-02 22:36:04,">>135959116 he's not wrong, but he isn't pragmatic either. His view point is very sound from a economic perspective and way more in line with libertarian thinking than you seem to be, but he ignores the effects of immigration to an already corrupted system. calling him a leftist, is downright ignorant. You on the other hand, with your conscious or unconscious favouring of protectionism, are much more a leftist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501713364 135938336,135960345,2017-08-02 22:36:44,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.23.44.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,US,,1501713404 135938336,135960428,2017-08-02 22:37:35,">>135955631 >Reminder if you want incredibly strict border control your a protectionist and just a puppet for racists you must be from reddit",,Anonymous,1494431046684.jpg,/NRqys7Sg3OhqP7KqjRFFA==,,,1501713455 135938336,135960646,2017-08-02 22:39:58,">>135944193 Because they are rebelling as hard as possible against mommy. None of their ideas have to be coherent, it just has to make them feel like a bad ass on facebook. Admit it, how many of you are part of edgy /pol/-lite facebook groups?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501713598 135938336,135960746,2017-08-02 22:41:02,">>135960428 >>135959116 not an argument Fakers",,Anonymous,,,,,1501713662 135938336,135961015,2017-08-02 22:43:53,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-02.06.08.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,US,,1501713833 135938336,135961144,2017-08-02 22:45:18,">>135960746 Go home, reddit",,Anonymous,,,,,1501713918 135938336,135962960,2017-08-02 23:05:10,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-07.53.06.jpg,PwVdnGrHvBbkX7mpdxBuhw==,US,,1501715110 135938336,135963058,2017-08-02 23:06:12,">>135962960 do pinochet now",,Anonymous,,,,,1501715172 135938336,135963148,2017-08-02 23:07:15,I just want to do whatever the fuck I want do I belong here,,Anonymous,haruhi-with-pen-57b6d9425df8d.png,gWh0PFHtnNupOW6WUv9euQ==,US,,1501715235 135938336,135963620,2017-08-02 23:12:16,">>135963058 K",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501715536 135938336,135963883,2017-08-02 23:15:02,">>135938336 communism works and you are living in it. china is the slave system that works for you. you are the jew a retarded one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501715702 135938336,135965036,2017-08-02 23:26:37,,,Anonymous,20170802_194407-1.jpg,FtrxCK+moGg1FPY0b7Ssqw==,US,,1501716397 135938336,135965500,2017-08-02 23:31:51,">>135963148 you almost get the core concept. now if it involves other people you have to get them to voluntarily agree.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501716711 135938336,135965740,2017-08-02 23:34:24,">>135963058 How's this?",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-02-11.33.19.png,uhx5Jgw/x6B9Pp5s3Jo2EQ==,US,,1501716864 135938336,135967191,2017-08-02 23:51:17,">>135965740 Looks great",,Anonymous,1497459522784.jpg,xAl7E1Pvm5a5dT6iWBAKpA==,,,1501717877 135938336,135967202,2017-08-02 23:51:31,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.34.47.jpg,ZMJSCI1yerTMFffOfxOjqw==,US,,1501717891 135938336,135967285,2017-08-02 23:52:22,"Original Content :3 >>135965740 >>135963058",,Anonymous,IMG_20170802_235126.jpg,yj2ckkUPyC2Iu82NnE3p+w==,US,,1501717942 135938336,135967413,2017-08-02 23:53:43,"Sorry for posting the compressed version >>135967285 I'll post the higher quality version tomorrow :3",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501718023 135938336,135968200,2017-08-03 00:02:56,>>135938336,,Anonymous,come to the right side.png,fCie9cNPI/8eT5mOgND2+Q==,US,,1501718576 135938336,135969153,2017-08-03 00:13:43,">>135968200 weak",,Anonymous,1490455284257.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,,,1501719223 135938336,135969463,2017-08-03 00:17:13,"I'm sorry, but there is only one Libertarian author whose work I read and it's the words of Robert A. Heinlein.",,Anonymous,robert-heinlein.jpg,BPCYQp05XhwCAaaAcYMa6g==,,,1501719433 135938336,135970690,2017-08-03 00:31:03,">>135969463 Read Hoppe and Rothbard you fag",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501720263 135938336,135970862,2017-08-03 00:33:10,">>135957524 > Hayek was basically Agnositc > Bastiat was a Roman Catholic > Locke & Smith weren't Jews > Majority of Soviets were Jews This kind of triggers me, Mises was a good fuckin lad. Hell the first ever proto-Libertarian was Lao Tzu so I couldn't give many shits if Friedman and Rothbard were. We have the greatest history of any ideology.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501720390 135938336,135970898,2017-08-03 00:33:32,">>135967202 what a bunch of collectivist bullshit. whatever retarded and delusional commie posted this shit doesn't even understand libertarianism enough to understand that 'the conflict that arises from scarcity' gets resolved by the free market, which is also why the retarded nationalist viewpoint constantly fails when checked against the ideals of freedom. whoever believes this might as well start a soviet republic. and fuck the bubble argumentation. that as well is utterly moronic, I can not even find a word to describe how retarded the notion is, that just because you have a neighbour you have to serve him. You already do by doing shit for yourself or selling him crap. Fucking invisible hand. Do you understand, commie?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501720412 135938336,135971035,2017-08-03 00:35:08,"Have you guys read Rothbard's The Betrayal of the American Right & Tucker's pre-history articles of the alt-right? Crazy shit, bit of a conspiracy developing too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501720508 135938336,135971118,2017-08-03 00:35:56,">>135970690 moron. >>135969463 ever read machinery of freedom?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501720556 135938336,135972440,2017-08-03 00:51:50,">>135971118 No, but I've read The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress by Heinlein that depicts a Lunar penal colony obtaining its freedom and independence with the help of a self-aware and intelligent supercomputer and establishing an anarcho-capitalist society (although Heinlein's characters refer to it as ""rational anarchism""). It has some great quotes such as, ""There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him."" and ""I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free, because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything that I do."" and ""What I fear most are affirmative actions of sober and well-intentioned men, granting to government powers to do something that appears to need doing.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501721510 135938336,135973034,2017-08-03 00:59:20,">>135972440 So not too into the non-fiction then?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501721960 135938336,135973108,2017-08-03 01:00:12,">>135972440 the moon is a harsh mistress actually inspired david friedman to write the machinery of freedom. that's why I asked. the quotes by are great, but otherwise I have to admit that the depiction of the relationship of men and women were a little alien to me. but I only read a few pages.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501722012 135938336,135973319,2017-08-03 01:03:08,">there's people who haven't what ""what has the govenrment done to our monies"" by rothbard So much good information in that thing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501722188 135938336,135973437,2017-08-03 01:04:30,">>135970862 why should we care about jews anyway? their faith doesn't change the argument, and in the off chance that indeed they are controlling the world, look at the last century, and tell me they aren't great fucking leaders. I doubt we'd eradicated hunger and disease to this degree with your run of the mill racist socialists in power, who usually keep rambling about the zionist thread.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501722270 135938336,135973552,2017-08-03 01:05:59,">>135938336 finally a libertarian thread to read...what happened to this place these use to be daily.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501722359 135938336,135973680,2017-08-03 01:07:34,">>135973319 you can find a lot of rothbards work as audiobook or in written form on mises.org miss org / library / murray-n-rothbard-audiobooks",,Anonymous,,,,,1501722454 135938336,135973789,2017-08-03 01:08:45,">>135973437 Exactly, I don't know why people care so much when so many top Libertarians/Classical Liberals aren't Jews anyway and we have such a rich history. It's such a non-argument useless complaint confined solely to this place as if the Fasci & NatSoc writers weren't massive fucking grubs in comparison.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501722525 135938336,135973991,2017-08-03 01:11:01,">>135973552 A lot of the mature guys from 2012 moved on after the Minarchist/Anarchist debates now it looks like a bunch of Trump newfags have flooded the place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501722661 135938336,135976444,2017-08-03 01:42:31,">>135942929 One word. Yugo.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501724551 135938336,135976790,2017-08-03 01:46:46,">>135940363 >>135940421 kek, I came here to post these. This thread dies now.",,Anonymous,Libertarians.png,xZRxt3TOdF4lJeCxS6ej4g==,,,1501724806 135938336,135977376,2017-08-03 01:54:44,">>135945978 Then why did the USSR suck technological advancement like a parasite from the West? Name one invention originated in the Eastern Bloc that the West Adopted. One.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501725284 135938336,135977910,2017-08-03 02:01:02,">>135940363 > Our enemies will use freedom against us > They totally won't use the state guys >>135976790 > don't care about morals > don't care about comminity Lol bullshit, every libertarian has subjective morals & ideas about community within their Libertarian framework. Freedom & liberty is a framework, just because the framework doesn't dictate personal values & subjectivity doesn't mean you can't have your subjective values. > muh property doesn't care about the greater good! Mate you can only have a successful prosperous society long term when property is respected, it is foundational, it is an extention of the very actions of life. Ahh the rest is a bad joke. White folk, jewish cancer, strong government blah blah fuckin buzzwords. Your obsession with having a master is laughable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501725662 135938336,135977974,2017-08-03 02:01:56,">>135977910 >Mate you can only have a successful prosperous society long term when property is respected, it is foundational, it is an extention of the very actions of life. Keyword is respect, not worship.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501725716 135938336,135978213,2017-08-03 02:04:53,">>135977974 Exactly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501725893 135938336,135978378,2017-08-03 02:06:51,">>135978213 Then stop worshiping private property you fucking retard. Just because a dog is someones property doesn't mean you should let him torture it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501726011 136020285,136020285,2017-08-03 12:17:29,">Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists serious about ending the state and not just smoking weed, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists, anti-communist militants like ya boy Oscar Perez. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Locke, Smith, the Founding Fathers, Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Thomas Sowell, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - LIBERTARYAN EDITION,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-03-02.02.35.jpg,QDfv/Oa8CgUpzMvzx3EG8g==,GB,,1501762649 136020285,136020387,2017-08-03 12:18:48,anarcho-capitalism isn't real anarchism.,,Anonymous,,,,,1501762728 136020285,136020399,2017-08-03 12:18:54,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The rightful owners of public property (including borders) are the victims of taxation. Therefore nobody can benefit from that land save for them. Eventually this issue would be solved by full privatisation, but that's still far in the future. Also we don't like brown people. >(((Capitalism))) Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >What about roads? Since companies need infrastructure to transport their goods to reach people who in turn need infrastructure for their own needs, this system of mutual dependence is the incentive for any faggot with a steamrol-nah I'm just fucking with you. (((Roads))) are the asphalt Jew that limits evaporation from the soil and gives kids autism. We take helicopters everywhere we go. >LOLBERGTARDIANS R DEGENERATE Degeneracy is a symptom of r-selected individuals within a K-selected society. Just kick them out, their high time preference and negative externalities caused by their presence and behaviour are a good enough reason for their physical removal. No trap harems for you. >What about usury? Banking marketed to ordinary folk was a mistake, so much so that even (((Rothbard))) disapproves of it. End the FED, price war now.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-02-01.53.47.jpg,oOzYaXSg+m+AFg3h/N3Gyg==,GB,,1501762734 136020285,136020495,2017-08-03 12:19:53,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-03-02.13.29.jpg,MbZYoq8mlzRiFJEcy060HA==,GB,,1501762793 136020285,136020538,2017-08-03 12:20:25,">>136020387 >",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501762825 136020285,136020612,2017-08-03 12:21:16,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts >youtube.com/user/Morrakiu - youtube.com/channel/UCqAIvs0vAb71x_ZO10HArhA - http://morrakiu.com/ - Morrakiu of TRS and Radical Agenda INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell BANTZ TIER >Jared Howe's faceberg account Fuck Cato. Open borders for Israel.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-03-02.15.01.jpg,Nu62QA2jPPu9yYEVbZ1BOQ==,GB,,1501762876 136020285,136020682,2017-08-03 12:22:12,"VIDEOS/PODCASTS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=-Yv9JZiaFUg >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Wife with a Purpose - youtube.com/watch?v=_vvikwuyv_I >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/17/radical-agenda-ep302-mike-enoch/ >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/19/radical-agenda-ep303-articulate-black-guy/ >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/24/radical-agenda-ep306-jared-howe/ >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-03-02.20.54.jpg,ug1H+Y+ZXNDPm2K98Cto0A==,GB,,1501762932 136020285,136020732,2017-08-03 12:22:58,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=ecVvLqSJCK8 >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=Vz_CagU5wjY >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo >Morrakiu - Agreeing with the Liberals for All the Wrong Reasons - youtube.com/watch?v=eASnXIubJEE >LE NEGRO ANARCHIST - MARCHING SONGS FOR MERCENARIES OF ALL ENTERPRISING MEN OF THE WORLD - anarchyinblack.tumblr.com/post/160501747153/radio-ancapistan-marching-songs-for-the-child",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-03-02.25.39.png,YaVq/Xr17/3ESn0xPiuqrw==,GB,,1501762978 136020285,136020809,2017-08-03 12:23:59,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_06-29-07.32.40.jpg,505WaabB1aU6xs3zICC47w==,GB,,1501763039 136020285,136021346,2017-08-03 12:30:13,">>136020387 >semantic arguments",,Anonymous,leh.png,0mZshdgmMt84pgOJySjCvw==,,,1501763413 136020285,136021524,2017-08-03 12:32:20,Here is a pic of nations by economic freedom.,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-08-02 at 7.28.59 PM.png,pBYU58MyIxf1OGZ5iwS9AQ==,,,1501763540 136020285,136021564,2017-08-03 12:32:41,Here is a pic of nations by GDP per capita,,Anonymous,capita.png,of3KHMcErGQQXX1YGGUhKA==,,,1501763561 136020285,136021601,2017-08-03 12:33:05,Here is a pic of nations by the Human Development Index,,Anonymous,3rd world.png,VBXoX+NhkFXhhLKfutuL0Q==,,,1501763585 136020285,136021636,2017-08-03 12:33:28,">>136021524 >>136021564 >>136021601 As you can see, the more economic freedom a nation has, the more economic prosperity it has.",,Anonymous,arms.jpg,4/uzlDntH0fN55AWkubtyQ==,,,1501763608 136020285,136022783,2017-08-03 12:47:31,">>136021636 someone needs to post the Venezula-Chile comparison pic",,Anonymous,Rin.png,rVcmGtwUfDWcDxnFbWV22Q==,PT,,1501764451 136020285,136023676,2017-08-03 12:57:59,>>136022783,,Anonymous,not even once.jpg,hfOl1kRdcRkpKVwed8M2Dg==,,,1501765079 136020285,136023970,2017-08-03 13:01:21,morning lads,,Anonymous,quotes_bastiat_spooner_rothbard_woods_hoppe.jpg,nh2f/96/ZiMyVYsIyJeP7A==,GB,,1501765281 136020285,136024467,2017-08-03 13:07:37,">>136023970 >morning",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501765657 136020285,136024470,2017-08-03 13:07:38,">>136020285 /leftypol/ is brigading this poll with dislikes. http://www.strawpoll.me/13612839 Vote for ""like"" or ""meh"" please.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501765658 136020285,136024578,2017-08-03 13:09:03,">>136024467 I didn't have the chance to post until now.",,Anonymous,moly_gun_control.jpg,WbbAy51FGU5QR6AG9044PA==,GB,,1501765743 136020285,136025493,2017-08-03 13:20:07,Why do people assume egoism is inherently leftwing?,,Anonymous,1493916271429.gif,jN0z70HrfELvl+9uNS6QCA==,,,1501766407 136020285,136025615,2017-08-03 13:21:25,">>136024578 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501766485 136020285,136025961,2017-08-03 13:25:06,">>136020387 >anarchism isn't real anarchism Hi ANTIFA n_n",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1501766706 136020285,136026104,2017-08-03 13:26:41,"Just had to go through Danish version of TSA. Pretty normal, but apparently my half full 150ml deodorant was a no no.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1501766801 136020285,136026539,2017-08-03 13:31:32,">>136021346 It's not even a semantic argument, anarchocapitalism would be the purest form of anarchism available. Anarchocommunism is inherently fiscally structured and thus less anarchistic that is to say, we've been baited",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501767092 136020285,136026603,2017-08-03 13:32:12,>>136020387,,Anonymous,this_triggers_the_leftist.jpg,R/HF0mR8BcBvFjUdhsRN1A==,GB,,1501767132 136020285,136026905,2017-08-03 13:35:18,">>136020387 >ancom society >doesn't have the freedom to work for a wage >""anarchy""",,Anonymous,ancap vs ancom.png,np3q2NBDG6JBqSmDskxH3w==,,,1501767318 136020285,136027309,2017-08-03 13:39:25,"I'm late, what's new paleo crew?",,Anonymous,PaleoCrew.png,2mYdXJkr73SuUf7IFVNAYw==,,,1501767565 136020285,136027449,2017-08-03 13:41:02,">>136020387 >doesn't beleive in property >thinks he owns the word ""anarchism""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501767662 136020285,136027720,2017-08-03 13:43:49,">>136027309 Buying a Toyota MR2, speaking with an importer I can't wait to go cruising in it loaded with a bunch of firearms, go to the range, practice my shootan, and then cruise back from the moutains",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501767829 136020285,136027944,2017-08-03 13:46:10,"Also when are we gonna have a violent takeover of the libertarian party? those fags need a purging. >>136027720 neat, what year you looking at?",,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,,,1501767970 136020285,136028105,2017-08-03 13:47:48,">>136027944 87 When it ships in I'll post some pics of it, showcasing the glory of the free market",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501768068 136020285,136028123,2017-08-03 13:48:08,">>136027720 >Mr. Regular, is that you? MR2's are cool. It's a shame our commie 3rd world country laws dont let us import them. I was looking to purchase a fiero and LS swap it because #deathtrap #yolo, but isn't just the same as the Toyoda. It isn't as comfy inside https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q0Rrg7w4Xk",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1501768088 136020285,136029019,2017-08-03 13:57:21,,,Anonymous,AIRBOURNE_LEW.png,iYmwYP5NxWA/Gk3IB7qjaA==,,,1501768641 136020285,136029203,2017-08-03 13:59:23,">MR2's are cool. It's a shame our commie 3rd world country laws dont let us import them. If you have a knife larger than 3inches on you here, you're fined. The natsoc party is thinking of legalizing the pepper spray.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170803-192638.png,GcSe+GyyDbFfSz8jRRyYIQ==,DK,,1501768763 136020285,136029524,2017-08-03 14:02:39,,,Anonymous,1499411050427.jpg,42tDMMcgoqv5Nl3VpNctuw==,US,,1501768959 136020285,136029938,2017-08-03 14:06:36,">>136020387 neither is anarcho-communism, which is anarchy but also with complete government control",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501769196 136020285,136029983,2017-08-03 14:07:02,">>136029524 stirner egoists don't get time preference. you're practically at dindu levels. sometimes you invest time in somthing to get a bigger payoff later. stirnerites are just nigger objectivists with no concept of investment.",,Anonymous,spooks.jpg,6BrAeyae+qoOa+6k3pOEdA==,,,1501769222 136020285,136030687,2017-08-03 14:13:46,left without comment,,Anonymous,obedience_to_the_law_is_liberty.jpg,do3idMApJPDdoN7RDKh2KQ==,GB,,1501769626 136020285,136030789,2017-08-03 14:14:50,">>136029983 The main difference between Stirner egoist and Rand egoist is that Stirnerites are anarchist, therefore there is no state, therefore there is no private property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501769690 136020285,136031221,2017-08-03 14:19:03,">>136030789 >there is no state, therefore there is no private property.",,Anonymous,aiNQGrF (1).jpg,wH9efLc2vtHSqbdKqcOKrA==,GB,,1501769943 136020285,136031767,2017-08-03 14:24:32,">>136029203 We aren't that far, ""white"" weapons longer than 1 inch are illegal here too, feelsbadman. At least we can own deer hunting riffles but if you kill the bad hombre wanting to raep you, you're the criminal baka >McModifies his hunting rifles with a CNC to make them take 7.62 rounds :^) >McPlows the bad hombres in his backyard and use their corspes as fertilizer",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1501770272 136020285,136032212,2017-08-03 14:28:33,">>136031767 We can have hunting rifles as well. But if you have a butterfly knife laying on the shelf, and the police spots you, 2000kr (~$350) fine.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1501770513 136020285,136033967,2017-08-03 14:45:46,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501771546 136020285,136036342,2017-08-03 15:07:05,">>136020387 Suck my dick boyo.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501772825 136020285,136036443,2017-08-03 15:08:03,">>136025493 It's not, it's just that Stirnerists don't get Stirner. It's not in your interest to cross swords with right-wingers who are most often stronger than you.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501772883 136020285,136036621,2017-08-03 15:09:38,">>136030789 Fuck off and actually read his writings, you hack. Private property as defined by spooks isn't real (i.e. state-force-backed property or NAP property) Private property as defined by your ability to maintain control over said property is real.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501772978 136020285,136036961,2017-08-03 15:12:25,">>136029524 >Arbritrary No. There is 0 palpable difference between anarcho-egoism and anarcho-capitalism. In ancapistan, property is property because whoever owns it can defend it. That's not arbitrary, that's the literal laws of the physical real world. There is no other institution that arbitrates anything, it is only individuals free to do what they wish and react how they wish. There's no difference between Stirner and Rand. Debate me **protip: you can't**",,Anonymous,,,,,1501773145 136020285,136037653,2017-08-03 15:18:00,">>136036342 you want herpes? also OC straight from the oven",,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-03-08.17.02.jpg,gVoZi8B7jOhyrJkhVtfuaQ==,GB,,1501773480 136020285,136037734,2017-08-03 15:18:39,">>136037653 NAPVLV is the better libertarian-themed discord.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501773519 136020285,136037875,2017-08-03 15:20:04,">>136037734 Literally who?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501773604 136020285,136038220,2017-08-03 15:23:08,">>136037653 DELET THIS. >>136037734 Fuck your cuckbertatian discord",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501773788 136020285,136038227,2017-08-03 15:23:11,">>136037875 sooper sekrit klub for /lrg/-esque bants, mostly with people from 8ch. Pretty dank desu.",,Anonymous,1487362045325.jpg,YDiTeUPtm/IDQTYJJFUiLA==,,,1501773791 136020285,136038901,2017-08-03 15:29:13,">>136038227 >/lrg/-minded get a load of this guy",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501774153 136020285,136039209,2017-08-03 15:31:45,">>136038901 i don't know what you're talking about but it's pretty sweet there. We got our own culture and memes and shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1501774305 136020285,136040047,2017-08-03 15:39:41,,,Anonymous,Anarcho Fascism.jpg,qAILX28QTGVBbPxWZRTLKQ==,US,,1501774781 136020285,136040149,2017-08-03 15:40:37,">>136040047 Why the GI lambda",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1501774837 136020285,136040486,2017-08-03 15:43:28,Hey guys.,,Anonymous,,,,,1501775008 136020285,136040584,2017-08-03 15:44:19,">>136040149 It looks cool, and is a relatively well known nationalist symbol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501775059 136020285,136040720,2017-08-03 15:45:39,">>136040047 Fuck off with this leftist bullshit",,Anonymous,,,,,1501775139 136020285,136040923,2017-08-03 15:47:32,"Red pill me and prove to me that capitalism isn't inherently immoral and unsustainable. I've been slowly moving to the right, I started off as a full blown fucking USSR sympathizing retard, then I became a socdem then a libsoc and am now a mutualist (anti capitalist free market anarchy) so maybe I'll eventually find the light but as of right now it seems my ideologies won't budge.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501775252 136020285,136040954,2017-08-03 15:47:48,">>136040486 AY MANG >>136040720 Fascism isn't leftist.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501775268 136020285,136041031,2017-08-03 15:48:36,">>136039209 well all the /lrg/ people are in the /lrg/ discord",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501775316 136020285,136041214,2017-08-03 15:50:19,">>136041031 yeah, i don't think anyone here mainly uses napvlv. it's kind of a peripheral community. same political leanings though",,Anonymous,,,,,1501775419 136020285,136041313,2017-08-03 15:51:27,">>136040047 Ah truly an ideology which makes no sense. Cool af flag though",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501775487 136020285,136041398,2017-08-03 15:52:21,">>136040923 Embrace Fascism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501775541 136020285,136041500,2017-08-03 15:53:15,">>136040923 Which part of ""property"" do you have a problem with?",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1501775595 136020285,136041771,2017-08-03 15:55:40,">>136040923 It may help to tell us why you think it's immoral and unsustainable first, then we can go from there. Capitalism is the only system that have universally increased income and living standards of the entire world. Even third world people are better off with capitalism on the other side of the world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501775740 136020285,136041910,2017-08-03 15:56:59,>>136020285,,Anonymous,ancap in a nutshell.png,x03h/sKaGiTN++n64xZQSA==,US,,1501775819 136020285,136042024,2017-08-03 15:58:08,">>136036621 Duh, but that type of private property isn't compatible with market capitalism. Instead of making transactions, you would just use force to take stuff. You would have capitalism, but without markets and transactions. In order for capitalism to have meaningful markets and transactions, it needs a state to act as a moral arbiter. That's pretty spooky, my friend. If you actually read Stirner you would know he was against capitalism and saw it as something that could not exist in a world where everyone was conscious of their egoism. I think you need to go back to reading Rand, you ancapistanian.",,Anonymous,1501189153824.png,AYS1gkZz7e08GeLe6ogALw==,US,,1501775888 136020285,136042696,2017-08-03 16:05:03,">>136041771 maybe I worded that wrong, I don't think capitalism itself is immoral I just think that it opens up too many possibilities for the capitalists to be immoral unless there is some kind of system in place to protect people, and as for unsuitability; more and more crashes will happen and the environment will get dicked on to the point that human lives could be at risk >>136041398 do a backflip off a bridge",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501776303 136020285,136043121,2017-08-03 16:09:05,">>136042024 You don't NEED a state to act as a moral arbiter, because taking other's property by force isn't the universally best course of action. It might certainly be in my interest to voluntarily respect someone's claim to property, if at least until I get an opportunity to do otherwise, should one ever present itself. In other worlds, holding to the NAP under every circumstance is not the same as holding to the NAP when, and only when, it benefits me. (The former is spooky, the latter is not.) In fact, since you love appeals to Stirner's ghoulish dick, he even directly states this very idea early on in his first relevant work. >y-you would know that stirner was against capitalism, a-and- I don't give a fuck what stirner personally was, or was not, for. If you adhere to an egoist philosophy and make decisions based on ""what stirner says"" rather than whatever it is that benefits you, the philosophy has gone way over you're head. I think it's about time you called an exorcist, kid. >>136040923 Capitalism isn't inherently moral because inherent morals do not exist. Additionally, there is no evidence that it is unsustainable and, in fact, capitalism has lead to the most sustainable world in the modern era. Also: who gives a damn if something is sustainable or isn't, even if it isn't sustainable forever, it'll be sustainable for your entire life, which is all that SHOULD matter to you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501776545 136020285,136044349,2017-08-03 16:20:11,">>136042696 I think this comes from a basic thought that society is somehow not also under the basic laws of how the universe works. It's my belief that it doesn't not matter what system you are under, there is always the risk that you're going to have immoral actors screwing over others for their own benefit. You're right that capitalism has this risk and so does all other systems; whether it's authoritarian despots, which we often see arise out of socialist and communist systems, pure democracy's tyranny of the majority or draconian, decadent rule of monarchs. The truth is that there is no system that will deliver you from the basic principles of reality, this includes the fact that people are going to die. You can spend the rest of your live fretting about how to hypothetically give people a better and longer life, but understand that there are no pure solutions; only tradeoffs. Capitalism, unlike other systems, is the only one that takes the trends of human interaction and the basic laws of nature into account. If you have a capitalist system, then there are methods to undermine detrimental, immoral actors within society. You can refuse to give an immoral corporation your business and many people will do the same. You cannot refuse the government in the same way, because they hold the power to change the legal and governmental framework in their favor. This is why I generally don't like the government interfering in the market, whether is bank bailouts, no bid contracts, etc. These things aren't capitalism, but corporatism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501777211 136020285,136046764,2017-08-03 16:43:01,resurrecting this thread,,Anonymous,hans_hermann_god.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,GB,,1501778581 136020285,136046905,2017-08-03 16:44:10,,,Anonymous,1462790284788.jpg,MnFoQzQMsF6vQxvZOrj6mQ==,US,,1501778650 136020285,136046976,2017-08-03 16:44:56,">>136046764 /our guy/",,Anonymous,do it for Hoppe.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,PT,,1501778696 136020285,136047534,2017-08-03 16:50:22,">>136040047 >t. Fascism >Authoritarian Right",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1501779022 136020285,136048122,2017-08-03 16:56:04,,,Anonymous,1482709108988.jpg,oXu9j2MatcdU+8uZnKxvCA==,US,,1501779364 136020285,136048862,2017-08-03 17:03:10,">>136020387 >We're the true anarchists! >Hey, you can't make that voluntary exchange, that's against the law!",,Anonymous,,,,,1501779790 136020285,136050026,2017-08-03 17:13:27,">>136025493 Anarcho-capitalism owes a lot to individualist anarchists like Lysander Spooner, Henry David Thoreau, and, indeed, Max Stirner. I haven't read him yet, though, so I don't know where he falls on the left-right spectrum of anarchism.",,Anonymous,egoist_anarchist_flag_v2_by_anarchomania-d901i1s.png,VOF97IQdhzAlOQmtM85DQw==,,,1501780407 136020285,136051707,2017-08-03 17:28:35,">>136046764 post only the most uncommon H O P P Es",,Anonymous,Hoppe (12).png,E1SsmH/0HtXXnGXkxZecrg==,,,1501781315 136020285,136051847,2017-08-03 17:30:04,">>136040954 Compared to ancap, fascism is extremely leftist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501781404 136020285,136053348,2017-08-03 17:46:43,,,Anonymous,catgirls.png,TUUOMgb/zLHYqo0fvR9yYw==,GB,,1501782403 136020285,136054099,2017-08-03 17:54:58,"Give me your best arguments for Lockean natural rights, /lrg/ (no argumentation ethics)",,Anonymous,john_locke.jpg,I8GzYlT7UfHBadR+SRXSRQ==,,,1501782898 136020285,136054204,2017-08-03 17:56:08,">>136050026 He doesn't fall under either. People say he is leftist because he was a contemporary with Karl Marx, who by the way vehemently wrote against him. They also say he's leftist because he doesn't worship arbitrary property rights/capitalism. He isn't even anti-capitalism in the lefty sense, he's anti-EVERYTHING that serves to undermine an individual, which simply includes capitalism. An egoist doesn't have any problems with capitalism, so long as the egoist participates in capitalism only as a means to an end for the egoist's goals, and not for the sake of capitalism itself (or any other related spooks, i.e. religion, state, etc). They also conflate Stirner's personal position on things to all egoists, which is completely absurd. Stirner's writing is based, I would recommend reading it, but he doesn't hold your hand through the ideology. Observe this paragraph from the middle of his text: ""Do I write out of love to men? No, I write because I want to procure for my thoughts an existence in the world; and, even if I foresaw that these thoughts would deprive you of your rest and your peace, even if I saw the bloodiest wars and the fall of many generations springing up from this seed of thought — I would nevertheless scatter it. Do with it what you will and can, that is your affair and does not trouble me. You will perhaps have only trouble, combat, and death from it, very few will draw joy from it.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1501782968 136020285,136054291,2017-08-03 17:57:09,">>136050026 He is beyond the arbitrary concepts of left vs right. Individualism according to Stirner is all about self interests...everything else is a spook",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501783029 136020285,136054904,2017-08-03 18:04:11,">>136054204 True, and an Stirner egoist would have no problem with statism if he were the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501783451 136020285,136055380,2017-08-03 18:09:05,">>136020387 ""What does x mean"" is a complete waste of time. ""What do you mean by x"" is the correct approach.",,Anonymous,allanarchy.jpg,tk8H/+i60+hQgN64nOx39A==,,,1501783745 136020285,136055709,2017-08-03 18:12:51,">>136054904 It's an open-ended ideology. So long as it is in the egoists interest, so shall it work for them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501783971 136020285,136055944,2017-08-03 18:15:33,">>136050026 Stirnerism is leftism because he though that the only reason the working class give their labor is because their heads are full of spooks, and if they were to become more efficient egoist they would stop working and the capitalist state would fall apart. So according to him, an egoist revolution incompatible with capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501784133 136047745,136047745,2017-08-03 16:52:20,"NO STEP ON SNEK EDITION. This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",/lrg/- LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Snek.png,W2DJl7YJeye5BPLuBIoPEQ==,,,1501779140 136047745,136047911,2017-08-03 16:53:58,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mtY0dLfK1Y,,Anonymous,Thomas Jefferson2.jpg,aZHnzovPn/B2tBt2dtR7Hg==,,,1501779238 136047745,136047964,2017-08-03 16:54:24,>>136047911,,Anonymous,Thomas Jefferson.jpg,jdlSHDs07rS57guH/eWPyw==,,,1501779264 136047745,136047993,2017-08-03 16:54:45,"Howto BTFO Libertarians: https://www.texasobserver.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-freest-little-city-in-texas/",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1501779285 136047745,136048033,2017-08-03 16:55:02,>>136047964,,Anonymous,JFK.png,DUog286c7DTf39bkqimejg==,,,1501779302 136184459,136184459,2017-08-04 19:12:28,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_lrg.png,Ax4FLg4PngGMKJwJomWgCQ==,GB,,1501873948 136184459,136184634,2017-08-04 19:14:05,">>136184459 fuck commies",,Anonymous,,,,,1501874045 136184459,136184845,2017-08-04 19:15:59,Here is a map of countries by economic freedom,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-08-02 at 7.28.59 PM.png,pBYU58MyIxf1OGZ5iwS9AQ==,,,1501874159 136184459,136184882,2017-08-04 19:16:26,Here is a map of countries by GDP per capita,,Anonymous,capita.png,of3KHMcErGQQXX1YGGUhKA==,,,1501874186 136184459,136184928,2017-08-04 19:16:56,Here is a map of countries by the Human Development Index,,Anonymous,3rd world.png,VBXoX+NhkFXhhLKfutuL0Q==,,,1501874216 136184459,136185000,2017-08-04 19:17:30,Here is a map of countries by the amount of corruption,,Anonymous,corruption.jpg,Tq1gh7jh+sMg1UEeAAoKSw==,,,1501874250 136184459,136185028,2017-08-04 19:17:52,"MUH MARKET! IT CAN NEVER DO WRONG! IT IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING!",,Anonymous,ayncap.jpg,BTRLH87y0b2PuIH17KtOIQ==,,,1501874272 136184459,136185069,2017-08-04 19:18:13,">>136184845 >>136184882 >>136184928 >>136185000 As you can see, the more economic freedom a nation has, the more economic prosperity it has.",,Anonymous,snake.jpg,4xISE/bg7Awam4wvtCDQ/A==,,,1501874293 136184459,136185225,2017-08-04 19:19:40,"Bit late for me but sup bois. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7I9V4ZgKoQ Please listen to Jeff Deist's speech before strawmanning. He describes /lrg/ perfectly here",,Anonymous,12tk.png,atwX1fP1BDi25KOkUwbq2w==,,,1501874380 136184459,136185403,2017-08-04 19:21:35,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-10.44.48.jpg,0OWign27FNoOxUrefqPwGQ==,US,,1501874495 136184459,136185486,2017-08-04 19:22:22,">>136184459 Bumpski",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501874542 136184459,136185561,2017-08-04 19:23:09,">>136184459 Which is the most libertarian-right country in the world?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501874589 136184459,136185739,2017-08-04 19:24:48,">>136185225 Hoppe supports white ethnostates? wtf I love liberty now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501874688 136184459,136185882,2017-08-04 19:26:15,">>136185561 Liechtenstein no doubt. >>136185739 Any libertarian should support free association and discrimination, so long as it's voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501874775 136184459,136186044,2017-08-04 19:27:53,">>136185225 I know a guy who went to that conference and met Hoppe. I was jelly as fuck",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1501874873 136184459,136186280,2017-08-04 19:30:13,">>136186044 I did",,Anonymous,IMG_20170805_012905.jpg,Ai1BbBXYRx1Rxwc7nCcWgg==,MT,,1501875013 136184459,136186442,2017-08-04 19:31:56,">>136185028 ?",,Praceteom,,,,,1501875116 136184459,136186821,2017-08-04 19:35:35,">>136185225 I liked that speech because I loathe leftism, but it irks me when people utilize the words ""society"" and ""culture"" too much because I really think they're buzzwords that people can't adequately define.",,Praceteom,,,,,1501875335 136184459,136187116,2017-08-04 19:38:26,">>136184845 >>136184882 >>136184928 >>136185000 Seems like nz is doing pretty well",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1501875506 136184459,136187299,2017-08-04 19:40:27,">>136186821 I think sticking to the simplest definition shapes the speech in a coherent way. Society as a rather ample association of individuals and culture as common tradition of said individuals within that association.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501875627 136184459,136187806,2017-08-04 19:45:42,">>136187299 I don't know what ""association"" consists in, and I don't know how we talk about common tradition. Or more importantly, I suppose I don't see any significance in the mundane observation that people exist in some arbitrary spacial proximity to one another and do things. I don't think there's anything of value to be extracted from the observation of the obvious - especially when people use those terms in effective persuasion of the opposition. ""We couldn't have society or culture without government"" is a pervasive notion among statists, so much so that I think the terms themselves are more toxic than useful.",,Praceteom,,,,,1501875942 136184459,136188668,2017-08-04 19:53:44,">>136186280 Fug man. That's awesome.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501876424 136184459,136188868,2017-08-04 19:55:34,">>136187806 It serves to address a rather extended confusion between libertarianism critics and left libertarians. The whole ""live and let live"" has been subverted to the point where people believe we may not hold personal opinions or preferences. Those opinions and preferences, when associating with like minded individuals, form culture, in a sense. Also, there's this belief (and it's addressed in the speech) that we might be isolationists, nihilists even. I think it's good to clarify that we do believe in associating, that our goal is not to live innawoods away from everyone else, that the state is atomizing us in order to have docile subjects. You might find it mundane or obvious, but these speeches usually tend to have their target, communicating our main talking points in a convincing manner and addressing the most common criticisms is always positive in my mind.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501876534 136184459,136188945,2017-08-04 19:56:28,">>136188668 I asked for the signature too early, should have waited after we had our conversation and beers cause I feel it could have been more personal. Oh well, got a selfie too :D",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1501876588 136184459,136189177,2017-08-04 19:58:42,I'm making one of these to get all the common questions people have for ancaps answered in one fell swoop. Heavily inspired by the infographs that come out of the discord. anyone want to see any specific question on there?,,Anonymous,1499000083712.png,iiDpijuMUO3kSQ0oCxkMbw==,,,1501876722 136184459,136189349,2017-08-04 20:00:35,">>136185561 it used to be us around 200 years ago then the statists attacked",,Anonymous,1498682554442.png,knGz1BPFHVXY0LvxA1VNNA==,US,,1501876835 136184459,136189771,2017-08-04 20:05:05,">>136188945 >>136186280 That's seriously fucking rad dude. >>136185225 Do you have a link to footage of Moritz's talk?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501877105 136184459,136190247,2017-08-04 20:10:42,">>136188945 Fucking badass. >>136189177 That looks great, but DESU, drop the roads question. It's purely a meme, the fact that we take it seriously is a joke. Literally no one doubts someone could build a road and charge people to use it via ez-pass. Lighten up a bit my dude.",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1501877442 136184459,136190354,2017-08-04 20:11:51,">>136188868 >The whole ""live and let live"" has been subverted to the point where people believe we may not hold personal opinions or preferences Yep. His speech served to clarify some points of divergence people are seeing in libertarian ideology (or at least people who claim to be of libertarian ideology) where that conflation is increasingly occurring. But what I meant by mundane observations wasn't the observation of people doing that, I was just saying I don't think there's anything useful in the terms ""culture"" and ""society"", since they are (effectively) just terms denoting ""people within arbitrary proximity to one another exist and do things"", and are more widely instantiated in the minds of most people as toxic terms that lean them away from libertarianism and not toward it.",,Praceteom,,,,,1501877511 136184459,136190682,2017-08-04 20:15:29,">>136189177 Explain right of association and dissociation. I don't have a fitting question to get you there, but it's one aspect many people find attractive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501877729 136184459,136191881,2017-08-04 20:28:38,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-02.06.08.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,US,,1501878518 136184459,136192600,2017-08-04 20:35:45,,,Anonymous,3065322-Janusz-Korwin-Mikke-Quote-Socialism-is-a-monster-which-will-die.jpg,JPyj5axWbNkVRzWxAsJAtw==,US,,1501878945 136184459,136194860,2017-08-04 20:59:55,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1501880395 136184459,136195647,2017-08-04 21:08:20,"Personally I doubt we'll ever see Ancapistan become a widespread society, but I think it is possible in micro-states where the high immigration rate of ancap converts would ensure that the society has enough ancaps to prevent a government from rising up. These micro-states would of course be disproportionately powerful relative to their size, thanks to the freeness of their markets and the fact that they would likely act as a tax haven for all kinds of businesses. Where these micro-states form is the question. As of right now, few nations would be satisfied letting any of their land slip away, so we would likely only see them in the ocean or in space, where the governments are not allowed to claim sovereignty. However, as these space and sea habitats grow in number, we might see governments willing to let go of tax draining shitholes like Detroit, so that they may benefit somewhat from a free market paradise instead of having to take care of the dying corpse of a city, similar to what China did with Hong Kong.",,Anonymous,tread.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,,,1501880900 136266943,136266943,2017-08-05 13:41:08,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_llew.png,MH9a10SsvtSDQR9TuCqjEg==,GB,,1501940468 136266943,136267057,2017-08-05 13:42:32,anarcho-capitalism isn't real anarchism.,,Anonymous,,,,,1501940552 136266943,136267156,2017-08-05 13:43:42,">>136267057 Prove it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501940622 136266943,136267191,2017-08-05 13:44:06,">>136267057 Prove this wrong, actually >Protip: you can't",,Anonymous,this_triggers_the_leftist.jpg,R/HF0mR8BcBvFjUdhsRN1A==,GB,,1501940646 136266943,136267215,2017-08-05 13:44:22,"lets go ahead and allow unregulated housing bank net economy stop government payout save defense end all regulation",,Anonymous,51WCT0RS8hL.jpg,3CMhc8zkZnCJylB91RTDkg==,US,,1501940662 136266943,136267435,2017-08-05 13:46:52,"Use fascism to establish ethnostate, remove degeneracy. Then we are in a position to live in a libertarian market anarchist legal order and society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501940812 136266943,136267679,2017-08-05 13:49:38,trains ran on time,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501940978 136266943,136267890,2017-08-05 13:51:53,">>136267435 You can't use fascism to eliminate degeneracy retard. Welfare states breed degenerates. Fuck dude, the nsdap model had to sterilize all the retards their welfare state created. What's more degenerate than breeding retards that you'll have to mutilate?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501941113 136266943,136268010,2017-08-05 13:53:01,">>136267057 Depends on what you mean by anarchism.",,Anonymous,snek.png,lEuuT3i2A5isIOmEq+QQNg==,,,1501941181 136266943,136268178,2017-08-05 13:54:58,>>136267435,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1501941298 136266943,136268208,2017-08-05 13:55:12,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-10.44.48.jpg,0OWign27FNoOxUrefqPwGQ==,US,,1501941312 136266943,136268448,2017-08-05 13:57:57,">>136268178 didnt read all of it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501941477 136266943,136268662,2017-08-05 14:00:30,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.23.44.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,US,,1501941630 136266943,136268724,2017-08-05 14:01:14,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1501941674 136266943,136269480,2017-08-05 14:09:45,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-07.53.06.jpg,PwVdnGrHvBbkX7mpdxBuhw==,US,,1501942185 136266943,136269578,2017-08-05 14:10:45,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-02.02.35.jpg,QDfv/Oa8CgUpzMvzx3EG8g==,US,,1501942245 136266943,136269981,2017-08-05 14:15:43,">>136269480 If this is your oc keep em coming, they're beautiful.",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-02.20.54.jpg,ug1H+Y+ZXNDPm2K98Cto0A==,US,,1501942543 136266943,136270554,2017-08-05 14:22:18,">>136267057 How do have ""rights"" without a state to defend them?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501942938 136266943,136270639,2017-08-05 14:23:16,The best threads on /pol/!,,Anonymous,1489224617441.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,,,1501942996 136266943,136270934,2017-08-05 14:27:03,">>136269981 I will, thank you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501943223 136266943,136271070,2017-08-05 14:28:47,">>136270554 You are your own last line of defense. Not the state. Also, maybe pay someone to defend your shit when you're gone. Also, without hierarchy who's gonna motivate you to stop taking bong tokes cut your dreds and get a job?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501943327 136266943,136271093,2017-08-05 14:29:02,">>136270554 Think for a single minute before posting.",,Anonymous,1482389906596.png,lRq1+tFakfyuPeG5t5rBBw==,,,1501943342 136266943,136271629,2017-08-05 14:35:06,">>136271093 Take it to its logical conclusion: a state. You can romanticize the 1900 century as much as you want but it ain't coming back.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501943706 136266943,136271774,2017-08-05 14:36:36,">>136271629 How is that the logical conclusion dude?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501943796 136266943,136271799,2017-08-05 14:36:58,,,Anonymous,1498676004266.jpg,kaf1pqRuq66lsZRhgWdW1w==,US,,1501943818 136266943,136272305,2017-08-05 14:42:12,">>136266943 >2 shekels have been deposited into your account for the creation of this thread.",,Anonymous,lrg_jjew.png,5ppg9S0vg5akqWj+6GKC3w==,US,,1501944132 136266943,136272470,2017-08-05 14:44:04,">>136272305 >Lew >A Jew Fuck off retard. He's a goyim.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501944244 136266943,136272509,2017-08-05 14:44:29,"What do you think about property taxes? The freest state in the Union (NH) has the third highest property tax at 2%. It's basically the same as a rented apartment per month, not including utilities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501944269 136266943,136272601,2017-08-05 14:45:31,">>136272470 >This jew is not a jew",,Anonymous,Lew_Rockwell_2016.jpg,uddMsf/u7NcLyyLphf3F5g==,US,,1501944331 136266943,136272939,2017-08-05 14:49:33,">>136272601 He's literally not, he's the guy who edited and published the ""racist and anti semitic"" Ron Paul newsletters.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501944573 136266943,136273034,2017-08-05 14:50:35,">>136272939 He sure looks like one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501944635 136266943,136273130,2017-08-05 14:51:40,">>136266943 >REQUIRED READING Why is The Road to Serfdom not on this list????",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501944700 136266943,136273251,2017-08-05 14:52:56,Just made this,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-05-02.51.42.jpg,gypAnGCUBiAbZY9XrDJWzw==,US,,1501944776 136266943,136273449,2017-08-05 14:55:23,">>136273034 Yeah, blue eyes and thin noses are totally Jewish.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501944923 136266943,136273481,2017-08-05 14:55:41,">>136273251 Nice!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501944941 136266943,136273579,2017-08-05 14:56:48,"I just want to own a house with a lawn and sit on a chair on said lawn, with a gun by my side and a dog too, just staring at the sun and drinking cold beers. Where do I move to achieve this dream and how much would it cost me?",,Anonymous,1485529387390.jpg,wX54D5k9PPtGWVUnSkGGkw==,GB,,1501945008 136266943,136273793,2017-08-05 14:58:59,">>136273449 I might be mistaken then. Someone tell him to shave his sideburns and get some less Jewish-looking glasses.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501945139 136266943,136274028,2017-08-05 15:01:33,">>136273579 Sounds like the southern U.S. to me. I wouldn't know, though, I'm from the Northeast, so that might just be a stereotype.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501945293 136266943,136274203,2017-08-05 15:03:34,">>136266943 Some smart spics talking about Venezuela at the Mises Institute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARUbwT7rwjk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7E57aCD37A Free market dictatorships are better than democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501945414 136266943,136274820,2017-08-05 15:10:49,">>136274028 I was looking into Oregon because it looks like one of the cheaper places to live and theres less blacks",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501945849 136266943,136276030,2017-08-05 15:24:27,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-04-10.31.21.jpg,Qstns/e3S4YP5W/vx3bzyA==,US,,1501946667 136266943,136276454,2017-08-05 15:29:18,">>136266943 What do we do about the (((nazbol))) question? These subversive scum need to be banished back to leftypol. Also, spittin' fresh OC coming your way.",,Anonymous,autistic screeching 1.png,NzXArxV3nSXn5tY2AsN2vg==,,,1501946958 136266943,136276813,2017-08-05 15:33:23,">>136274820 Oregon is pretty based and pretty beautiful, but stay away from the coast. I'm in Tennessee and it's the least diverse part of the South. One of the least cucked states in the US. No income tax (but a high sales tax.) It's a little too hot, but nowhere near as hot as Texas. Obviously stay away from Memphis. Western North Carolina is also super white and super comfy. Also look at New Hampshire. Very white, lots of economic freedom, and home to the Free State Project.",,Anonymous,US_racial_diversity_map.png,SC52LKVzmFLrALzDlPOYgQ==,US,,1501947203 136266943,136277234,2017-08-05 15:38:02,">>136267435 Using the state to achieve a libertarian order is a vain effort. Just get rid of welfare and all other government protection of discriminated-against individuals and wait for degeneracy to fade",,Anonymous,,,,,1501947482 136266943,136277902,2017-08-05 15:44:56,">>136276454 The answer to the Nazbol gang is the PALEO CREW. Paleo crew> Nazbol fags Fuck those socialists, (((national bolshevism))) is a long and funny way of saying Zionism.",,Anonymous,based_paleos.png,2mYdXJkr73SuUf7IFVNAYw==,US,,1501947896 136266943,136278081,2017-08-05 15:46:51,Gary Johnson is a fag,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501948011 136266943,136278384,2017-08-05 15:49:42,">>136278081 Lol, Gary is redpilled tho, he wants to force Jews to bake Nazi cakes at gunpoint.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501948182 136266943,136278474,2017-08-05 15:50:39,">>136277902 fuckin' saved. Communism is a disease, and we have to stop it from spreading.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501948239 136266943,136278531,2017-08-05 15:51:12,">>136278384 He also wants to force you to service gays, muslims, and every other degenerate,",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501948272 136266943,136278897,2017-08-05 15:55:38,">>136278531 Yeah, I was memeing. Fuck Aleppo Johnson.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501948538 136266943,136278912,2017-08-05 15:55:43,>>136277902,,Anonymous,rothbard priv.jpg,FSLk9Xe6FFvLV3ZCtLFDxg==,,,1501948543 136266943,136278998,2017-08-05 15:56:31,,,Anonymous,1499858279241.png,icTLVNxjMVYXU/jhpN70OA==,,,1501948591 136266943,136279481,2017-08-05 16:01:28,,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1501948888 136266943,136279580,2017-08-05 16:02:35,">>136279481 would hug Hoppe so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501948955 136266943,136279937,2017-08-05 16:06:25,">>136279580 Muh boi did.",,Anonymous,IMG_20170805_012905.jpg,Ai1BbBXYRx1Rxwc7nCcWgg==,US,,1501949185 136266943,136280290,2017-08-05 16:10:03,>>136279937,,Anonymous,akari17.gif,eih4KFPZl4ulo5V4A5k9YA==,,,1501949403 136266943,136280973,2017-08-05 16:17:10,,,Anonymous,10ed.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,US,,1501949830 136266943,136281129,2017-08-05 16:18:53,">>136279937 so jelly of the anons who made it to malta last week",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501949933 136266943,136281515,2017-08-05 16:23:09,">>136281129 I wish I could be there too. Would be wonderful to see him talk in person.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501950189 136266943,136282514,2017-08-05 16:33:02,,,Anonymous,1500403548103.jpg,RtsfzoaY5xj0T0ohtNwHAA==,US,,1501950782 136266943,136282683,2017-08-05 16:34:45,">>136281515 Do you think he is aware of his fame?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501950885 136266943,136282871,2017-08-05 16:36:41,">>136282683 He is, according to our own maltabro.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1501951001 136266943,136283055,2017-08-05 16:38:45,">>136282683 Yes he is, he says people send him memes constantly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951125 136266943,136283123,2017-08-05 16:39:30,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951170 136266943,136283307,2017-08-05 16:41:13,">>136272509 tax the living shit outa rental properties capture all that government enforced inflation",,Anonymous,1tlvxl.jpg,nflcXAWuFSHSqOFoJdQp1A==,US,,1501951273 136266943,136283391,2017-08-05 16:42:09,">>136272939 which were never part of ron paul, some guy lost his marbles n was fired, yet democrat press only thing democrat knows about ron paul is racism sexism hate gay BS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951329 136266943,136283403,2017-08-05 16:42:14,">>136283055 >he says people send him memes constantly. Fucking great.",,Anonymous,ikagif.gif,9q5dxz6vfrsxL00+PjrxYA==,,,1501951334 136266943,136283452,2017-08-05 16:42:45,">>136267191 That's retarded. Capitalism can't exist without a state. Without a state you would probably get robbed by sociopaths within days. Your property rights would extend no further than you could protect them with your own group of vigilantes, which would mean you had just created a new mini-state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951365 136266943,136283497,2017-08-05 16:43:14,,,Anonymous,"51AZeTKuOgL._SX327_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",d0dz0x4UzWRZDz/CGPIwsw==,US,,1501951394 136266943,136283568,2017-08-05 16:43:58,">>136267435 This is also retarded. Authoritarian governments don't just wither away after a while. You establish fascism? You'll be stuck with it. But of course you've got that loser flag, so you want to be stuck with it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951438 136266943,136283569,2017-08-05 16:43:58,">>136283452 >Capitalism can't exist without a state. >Forgets how almost all ancap literature is on how private defense how work I see this still full of faggots",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501951438 136266943,136283591,2017-08-05 16:44:14,,,Anonymous,"51bfmIIipwL._SX305_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",3ry2+7QtO3bWNPC6Al1Kdg==,US,,1501951454 136266943,136283619,2017-08-05 16:44:31,">>136283569 Explain to me how this so-called private defense would work without either turning into Somalia or ending up recreating states.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951471 136266943,136283647,2017-08-05 16:44:48,">>136283569 ancap has nothing to do with capitalism ancap is just fascist larp",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951488 136266943,136283669,2017-08-05 16:45:03,">>136283391 """"""Allegedly""""""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951503 136266943,136283695,2017-08-05 16:45:17,">>136283569 PS there's tons of commie literature about how an-com societies could work too. Doesn't mean any of it would work in practical reality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951517 136266943,136283739,2017-08-05 16:45:44,">>136283619 >explain to me is the same as >spoodfeed me a number of books fuck off nig >>136283647 ok retard",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501951544 136266943,136283764,2017-08-05 16:46:03,"Guy that was making the infograph here, what are your thoughts on this question?",,Anonymous,1484549638716.png,qQzSjr52olO6xozpt9fmNA==,,,1501951563 136266943,136283823,2017-08-05 16:46:41,">>136283568 >You establish fascism? You'll be stuck with it. No imagine it as aristocracy without aristocracy, because we have no one to fulfill this duty at the moment, after the forming of a new aristocracy fascism becomes obsolete. This guy is just a edgy natsoc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501951601 136266943,136283848,2017-08-05 16:46:58,"1800s USA 1 total gov spending including states 1% o GDP 2 no regulations or welfare 3 ended slavery n child labor Hong kong 1900s 1 15% flat tax on consumption 2 no stats allowed to be collected by burocrats by governmnor coppwerwaithe not allowed to keep stats 3 no regulations 4 now only equal to USA in PPP GDP per capita",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951618 136266943,136283955,2017-08-05 16:48:10,">>136283764 No, because if I pay a company to secure my property, I don't want people to just move into their area of protection.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501951690 136266943,136283965,2017-08-05 16:48:17,">>136283739 At least name the books. >>136283823 We already have an aristocracy - rich people. There's no reason to believe that a new aristocracy would be better than the current one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951697 136266943,136283996,2017-08-05 16:48:33,">>136283739 fuck u bitch only a democrat is stupid enough to link anarchy with capitalism typical brainwashed democrat spreg there is no x capitalism y capitalism just capitalism free marekts and no force agaisnt individual and property it works its moral you can never justify A robbing B to give free unearned shit to C never been done",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951713 136266943,136284153,2017-08-05 16:50:06,"capitalism is only moral system it created aamzing wealth quickly but tax looters have no fun oddly enough everyon is rich by 1000s of times becasue progress upward is endless boom democracy is communism and destroyed USA in 20th century endless wars no growth and tek stagnation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951806 136266943,136284244,2017-08-05 16:51:10,">>136283996 >>136284153 at least try to bait >>136283965 use google fag",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1501951870 136266943,136284262,2017-08-05 16:51:18,">>136283965 >We already have an aristocracy - rich people People who get to their capital by robbing people via the state are not very noble and can never be taken for righteous people, they are just criminals and should be treated as such.",,Anonymous,roads kill people.jpg,z/tgMJaD7Ikvwqas8reu9w==,,,1501951878 136266943,136284365,2017-08-05 16:52:28,">>136284244 there is 0 irony this is how it is I know it nukes your democrat miseducation lol so simple its scary",,Anonymous,1tm4o7.jpg,VuZ1GE8z1XU2iqC3fsepXQ==,US,,1501951948 136266943,136284424,2017-08-05 16:52:59,">>136284262 The new aristocracy in fascism would also just rob people and not be noble or righteous. It is a delusion to think otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501951979 136266943,136284461,2017-08-05 16:53:21,">>136284262 cronyism is a feature of socialism/democracy democracy is communism/fascism all those scammers liek facebook get money because market is regualted to stop competition",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501952001 136266943,136284558,2017-08-05 16:54:23,">>136284424 democracy creates cronies democracy is fascism/communism what u need is capitalism lower gov spending 99% cancel contracts laws and regulations ban law schools",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501952063 136266943,136284737,2017-08-05 16:56:22,">>136284558 If you lower government spending by 99%, you won't have capitalism. You will have Somalia and be spending 99% of your time trying to not get killed by heavily armed sociopaths.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501952182 136266943,136284804,2017-08-05 16:57:09,">>136284424 please read more into the topic, not just the materialistic shit of mussolini or what edgy teens on /pol/ tell you. [spoiler:lit]I am pro free market and property rights, because it is the way to let those ideals evolve[/spoiler:lit]",,Anonymous,,,,,1501952229 136266943,136285154,2017-08-05 17:00:36,">>136283764 Public policy is rather pointless in AnCapistan. The border policy is decided by the particular proprietors wishes. By default no one is allowed on any property without the owners consent. The borders would be closed by default.",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1501952436 136266943,136285231,2017-08-05 17:01:32,">>136283764 Also check the articles in the image I posted. And be sure to watch Lew Rockwell's open borders: a libertarian reappraisal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501952492 136266943,136285476,2017-08-05 17:04:11,">>136283764 No, because the people in charge of selling real estate would be able to discriminate in favor of prefarable potential residents within the community, and the private courts might establish laws that those people would have to abude by when selling real estate for their property to be protected.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501952651 136266943,136285535,2017-08-05 17:04:48,"capitalism is one thing anarchy is another",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501952688 136266943,136285750,2017-08-05 17:07:26,,,Anonymous,1tlvm9.jpg,EU4DwZHGoo9FvTrMVX6/1Q==,US,,1501952846 136266943,136285904,2017-08-05 17:08:56,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501952936 136266943,136286043,2017-08-05 17:10:24,">>136285535 I thought the same that the state should only protect life and property with full force until they decided to open the border and flood my country with refugees, that's why I can't trust any form of state controlled monopoly anymore.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501953024 136266943,136287577,2017-08-05 17:27:23,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501954043 136266943,136287859,2017-08-05 17:30:27,"What do you guys think of Trieste wanting to become a free territory with the US and UK as their protectors. Could it be a libertarian society, if they finally get it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1501954227 136266943,136288807,2017-08-05 17:41:20,">>136285535 your idea of capitalism, a free market with minarchist government is actually not capitalism. that's called a jewish plant to subvert your country in 15 generations whilst simultaneously profiting from degenerate behaviors through central banking control.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501954880 136266943,136291080,2017-08-05 18:07:46,">>136267057 egalitarian structures can be just as authoritarian as hierarchical structures.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501956466 136266943,136292112,2017-08-05 18:20:07,">>136284244 Answer me fgt",,lusocappy,,,PT,,1501957207 136266943,136292820,2017-08-05 18:28:18,">>136273251 good work, soldier.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501957698 136384586,136384586,2017-08-06 15:37:58,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,ancap_waifu_plus_plus.png,7lEu6FUmgoN9hkJm2c3BFQ==,GB,,1502033878 136384586,136385227,2017-08-06 15:44:50,"Damn man, I was gonna make a thread.",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1502034290 136384586,136385241,2017-08-06 15:44:55,">>136384586 Can someone redpill me on the Australian School of economics?",,Anonymous,1458191742889.png,Uop1OAbRpgNGZBOJUh1p8Q==,US,,1502034295 136384586,136385260,2017-08-06 15:45:03,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1502034303 136384586,136385361,2017-08-06 15:45:55,">>136385241 Roo boxing-gambling based economy. Works pretty good for them I hear.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502034355 136384586,136385770,2017-08-06 15:50:01,,,Anonymous,juden1.jpg,QLhxG/qS9S8QWyc5yYtz2A==,BR,,1502034601 136384586,136385825,2017-08-06 15:50:24,,,Anonymous,juden2.jpg,lASWqEORDhvF9aYalsX2JQ==,BR,,1502034624 136384586,136385859,2017-08-06 15:50:46,,,Anonymous,juden3.jpg,QDFqQj6NuaeiiZ4+66yn7w==,BR,,1502034646 136384586,136385906,2017-08-06 15:51:15,,,Anonymous,Keynes.png,LCYuCBBaP3BEdrqxQoAXjA==,BR,,1502034675 136384586,136386124,2017-08-06 15:53:51,">>136385859 >>136385770 >>136385825 >>136385906 Eat shit monkey boy",,Anonymous,WernerGoldberg.jpg,srdhoiyQ708cvke8ULx2bg==,US,,1502034831 136384586,136386291,2017-08-06 15:55:42,">>136385241 KEK",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502034942 136384586,136386577,2017-08-06 15:58:22,">>136386124 Good goy.",,Anonymous,jews.jpg,ToYZjttTYZXhuLv2SnTWTQ==,BR,,1502035102 136384586,136386803,2017-08-06 16:00:44,">>136386577 Yes goy, Jewish people are involved in economic theory, therefore you. Must enslave yourself to corporatism!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502035244 136384586,136386992,2017-08-06 16:02:35,">>136385859 >considered a founder of libertarianism Chiefly by people who know nothing about it, I'd wager.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,memri allah sword.jpg,Ds65SAmGFrcxFPLnwnOUsg==,GB,,1502035355 136384586,136387274,2017-08-06 16:05:48,">oy vey: the ideology it's like you take all the things people don't like about jews and make a political ideology about it because why wouldn't you want more jews bloody joke of an ideology if you ask me",,Anonymous,,,,,1502035548 136384586,136387442,2017-08-06 16:07:37,">>136385906 >keynes >""WE'RE ALL DEAD IN THE LONG RUN, WHITE MAN! IGNORE THE FACT THAT THIS WAY OF THINKING IS INFLUENCED BY MY HOMOSEXUALITY!"" uma delicia",,Slovakbro on Vacation,memri brazil.jpg,bF97nRtXjksB0dwN8FzNBg==,GB,,1502035657 136384586,136387785,2017-08-06 16:11:26,">>136386577 >proudhon Yes goy, give up your claim to your property. Didn't Bastiat demolish this guy?",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1502035886 136384586,136388055,2017-08-06 16:14:39,>>136385770,,Anonymous,Christianity-pragmatic-evidence-everything-good-in-western-civilizationis-due-to-Christianity-atheist-Murray-Rothbard.jpg,h/bwdxSavfuTVHuzfHJ+iA==,PA,,1502036079 136384586,136388154,2017-08-06 16:15:38,">>136387274 >There can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They-the advocates of alternative, non-family-centered lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism-will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order. - Hans-Hermann Hoppe So Jewish.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,FB_IMG_1501765126151.jpg,Hr6m9kBmTChrZidRr/Z4Gw==,GB,,1502036138 136384586,136388290,2017-08-06 16:17:09,">>136388055 I believe the nigger has an issue with ethnic Jews, not just religious ones. Funny that he quotes Bobby Fischer, who was a mischling.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,GB,,1502036229 136384586,136389866,2017-08-06 16:33:54,,,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,US,,1502037234 136384586,136390254,2017-08-06 16:37:56,>>136389866,,Anonymous,1499374967304.jpg,uaJkKBNyDQsQjz1n5dDSBA==,GB,,1502037476 136384586,136390505,2017-08-06 16:40:31,">>136390254 Thanks, it's oc. Airborne ovens NOW.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502037631 136384586,136390636,2017-08-06 16:41:48,,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1502037708 136384586,136392125,2017-08-06 16:57:20,">>136384586 corporations should be allowed to employ snek waifus to turn a profit regardless of government regulations",,Anonymous,Smith vs President.png,FNcP2bouHlt1ovBbPAHVqw==,PT,,1502038640 136384586,136393508,2017-08-06 17:11:34,>>136392125,,Anonymous,catgirls.png,TUUOMgb/zLHYqo0fvR9yYw==,GB,,1502039494 136384586,136395154,2017-08-06 17:28:25,>>136393508,,Anonymous,tread.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,,,1502040505 136384586,136395534,2017-08-06 17:32:07,"How is libertarianism so fucking perfect? Is it because it came about naturally, instead of through some philosopher calling for change? It feels like has an answer to every single problem humanity could face, whereas other ideologies seem to take certain things for granted in order for their systems to work.",,Anonymous,death.jpg,O/X2KpPBqsdQ4ypoo20BMA==,,,1502040727 136384586,136395835,2017-08-06 17:35:19,">>136393508 those damn government leeches",,Anonymous,don't tread on Miia.jpg,46vuZAv/zqMr/PIsNjbyxQ==,PT,,1502040919 136384586,136396186,2017-08-06 17:38:46,">>136395835 Monstergirls don't fall under the NAP, and thus can be domestically owned.",,Anonymous,liberty.jpg,U5Cj2n8gCflZ17E1MTk0Bw==,,,1502041126 136384586,136396602,2017-08-06 17:43:16,">>136396186 I can get behind privately owned monstergirls",,Anonymous,Join Miia or Die.jpg,ht8MvB2Oje6hEf/mh/dGcg==,PT,,1502041396 136384586,136397816,2017-08-06 17:55:45,">>136395534 Because it's completely consistent with itself. Private property ethics is a valid way to deal with just about every problem, and praxeology can explain human behavior in a way we can all understand.",,Anonymous,hyCkdKu.png,C3KLob3JRgD17dEvNqNNmQ==,,,1502042145 136384586,136398130,2017-08-06 17:59:11,"What is your answer to traitorous land owners in your region who sell their property to rich Saudi Arabian sheiks who then go on to create a Caliphate in your neighborhood and make a ton of shitskins move in? This is not even such a unrealistic scenario, Saudis have been building mosques all over Europe with the same tactic for decades now.",,SAVE EUROPA,,,,,1502042351 136384586,136398359,2017-08-06 18:01:50,">>136388290 Full blooded Jews ≠ Mischlings! >>136398130 But muh physical removal! muh Hoppe!",,Anonymous,Milch.jpg,p83/UtMZmQCmppKkztNEYQ==,BR,,1502042510 136384586,136399203,2017-08-06 18:10:29,http://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/741273963/what-is-b-income-and-tax-rate-under-my-tax-plan#bottom,,Anonymous,,,AR,,1502043029 136384586,136399381,2017-08-06 18:12:30,">>136398130 The idea is that you all self segregate into communities with the same ideals and then create a system of law to serve those ideals. If you create a Christan community, you exclude Muslims and other anti Christ people by force. It's that simple.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502043150 136384586,136399781,2017-08-06 18:16:54,">>136386577 >>136385906 >>136385859 >>136385825 >>136385770 >poisoning the well >Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a fallacy where irrelevant adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing everything that the target person is about to say. Poisoning the well can be a special case of Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a fallacy where irrelevant adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing everything that the target person is about to say. Poisoning the well can be a special case of argumentum ad hominem, >argumentum ad hominem Can you stop throwing fallacies around and get around to actual arguments?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502043414 136384586,136399898,2017-08-06 18:18:22,">>136384586 So who build the roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502043502 136384586,136399960,2017-08-06 18:18:58,">>136399898 >people want to go to a store >a store wants people to come to it Golly, I just DON'T KNOW what to do!",,Anonymous,,,,,1502043538 136384586,136399963,2017-08-06 18:18:59,">>136398130 It is since oil is finite resource that will at some point within few decades be replaced by something else.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502043539 136384586,136400070,2017-08-06 18:20:13,">>136399898 where we're going, we don't need roads",,Anonymous,ancap sees captcha.png,x0Ydm1XTZz2an0qO/tai3A==,PT,,1502043613 136384586,136400129,2017-08-06 18:20:48,">>136399781 I'm not falling for your semitic tricks, kike.",,Anonymous,(((You))).png,e1sQ5gU2XQ7U68tKS4JDMQ==,BR,,1502043648 136384586,136400422,2017-08-06 18:23:40,">>136399960 >>136400070 Until you find the answer to this problem, AnCap society can't survive. All hail fascism!",,Anonymous,1489015471958.jpg,ZNZVF4zbiLA4Qe2A9/mamw==,,,1502043820 136384586,136400550,2017-08-06 18:25:05,">>136385260 why is discrimination during employment a good thing, again?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502043905 136384586,136400593,2017-08-06 18:25:31,">>136400422 >people want roads >a company builds a road and charges people a subscription or toll to drive on it Tada",,Anonymous,miia.png,UsJjROxjGUMBKto9/xrofg==,,,1502043931 136384586,136400606,2017-08-06 18:25:36,">>136400129 For the future, if you want to critique systems of thought and in particular ideology I would recommend to read on the topic so you can formulate an informed and well articulated criticism instead of just throwing attacks on person around.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502043936 136384586,136400675,2017-08-06 18:26:22,">>136400550 Why is it a problem? You should hire who you want to hire. It's your company after all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502043982 136384586,136400788,2017-08-06 18:27:27,">>136400422 """"""Problem""""""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502044047 136384586,136400904,2017-08-06 18:28:44,">>136400675 Well for one it limits labor pool artificially.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502044124 136384586,136401030,2017-08-06 18:30:05,">>136400550 It allows for a conservative society to form. You won't be forced to bake a cake for gays, or hire a tranny.",,Anonymous,nervous.jpg,jop1vOAFEmnnRQbjrPwzQA==,,,1502044205 136384586,136401147,2017-08-06 18:31:36,">>136400129 Your ideology lasted 12 years and was responsible for the creation of Israel and the eastern half of Europe being occupied by communism for decades. If anyone here is a Jew, it's you.",,Anonymous,gtfo.gif,H9G3yfEoa7eSVgaoj1JKLg==,,,1502044296 136384586,136401243,2017-08-06 18:32:26,>>136384586,,Anonymous,hazlit.jpg,Fjxt1tzx69hLSbG8/0ZNSA==,,,1502044346 136384586,136401315,2017-08-06 18:33:22,,,Anonymous,hoppe voting.jpg,3bfmBHWB8HuQpFdht5Pazg==,,,1502044402 136384586,136401325,2017-08-06 18:33:31,">>136400593 >People still drive on the road without playing subscriptions. >Can't hired a bodyguard for a checkpoint because it will raise the cost of subscription >Decide to enforce my NAP on my own road >Got road warrior and killed Such is life in an AnCap society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502044411 136384586,136401329,2017-08-06 18:33:37,">>136400904 Why does that mean we should force people to hire people they don't consent to hiring?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502044417 136384586,136401383,2017-08-06 18:34:09,">>136401315 damn commie kids and their french fries and lemonade and videos!",,Anonymous,,,,,1502044449 136384586,136401396,2017-08-06 18:34:17,,,Anonymous,Stephan-Kinsella-IP-Man-e1359046272645.jpg,QYmrN+Ad2L/cekAdlj606Q==,,,1502044457 136384586,136401415,2017-08-06 18:34:25,">>136400422 >""problem""",,Anonymous,who will repair muh roads.png,4mpN4B1AlQOPQz8h0gGAeA==,PT,,1502044465 136384586,136401522,2017-08-06 18:35:27,,,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,,,1502044527 136384586,136401628,2017-08-06 18:36:27,,,Anonymous,herecomdatmises.png,kHvaTQnl+UGEhKH373a5mA==,,,1502044587 136384586,136401681,2017-08-06 18:36:54,">>136401329 No but we should not limit it on certain basis of non-meritocratic/functional reasons particularly if those are due to desire for private social engineering in society. For limited labor pool usually leads to wider shortages and generally higher wages and we all know what high wages mean for inflation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502044614 136384586,136401709,2017-08-06 18:37:11,,,Anonymous,lewylewylewy.jpg,Z2SuJdfDniRKQwPkOeJ8tA==,,,1502044631 136384586,136401760,2017-08-06 18:37:44,,,Anonymous,1491703593728.jpg,SNesor3/sef5+PoG63GTNA==,,,1502044664 136384586,136401803,2017-08-06 18:38:07,">>136401415 Anti libertarians btfo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502044687 136384586,136401826,2017-08-06 18:38:21,">>136401325 >People still drive on the road without playing subscriptions. They get charged a fine and if a cop spots their vehicle they will get pulled over.",,Anonymous,1024px-Mike_Mullen_with_Chilean_honor_guard_in_Santiago_3-3-09.jpg,FyTjqT4xlNxv4jZem1hRKw==,,,1502044701 136384586,136401838,2017-08-06 18:38:30,">>136400606 Listen, newfag, the only thing you need to understand about the Jews is that no matter how noble their intentions seem to be, they ultimate goal is to subvert and destroy western civilization. When they realized that communism didn't work, they created American Libertarianism (the original libertarians were socialists) and Anarcho-Capitalism as 'friendly' alternatives. All that talk of liberty sounds very nice, but in the end it's just another side of the Semitic coin.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1502044710 136384586,136401853,2017-08-06 18:38:37,,,Anonymous,didn'tsignthat.jpg,maVihqRF6fJRnc2dCtjuNw==,,,1502044717 136384586,136401938,2017-08-06 18:39:25,">>136401147 When did i claim to be a National Socialist, you filthy anarchist subhuman?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1502044765 136384586,136402002,2017-08-06 18:40:13,,,Anonymous,harry browne libertarianism.jpg,H7akOwTI+n/qEtlchp3XTQ==,,,1502044813 136384586,136402035,2017-08-06 18:40:30,">>136400215 /lrg/ BTFO",,Anonymous,,,,,1502044830 136384586,136402068,2017-08-06 18:41:01,">>136385906 >>136385859 >>136385770 Favela macaco",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1502044861 136384586,136402077,2017-08-06 18:41:04,">>136401938 You blame all your problems on Jews, it's not exactly hard to spot your kind.",,Anonymous,snake.jpg,4xISE/bg7Awam4wvtCDQ/A==,,,1502044864 136384586,136402089,2017-08-06 18:41:14,,,Anonymous,ludwig-von-mises-606864.jpg,1TAyYM8p9heTkScoTSRH1Q==,,,1502044874 136384586,136402158,2017-08-06 18:41:55,,,Anonymous,lolbertarians.png,ntzvQpbTxXgY0wSgkgGbgQ==,,,1502044915 136384586,136402159,2017-08-06 18:41:56,">>136401838 Perhaps so but that still does not constitute for argument on logical basis even if the ""jews"" created those ideologies or even directed them at some point it does not mean that they are inherently in their interests. Take communists for example, their policies ended up killing more jews in Europe than those before them, particularly during the Stalin`s purges and his relocation of the jews to Siberia.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502044916 136384586,136402293,2017-08-06 18:43:25,">>136402158 >just pure ad-homniem Could you please come up with some actual criticism of the capitalism nor free markets instead of meming?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045005 136384586,136402374,2017-08-06 18:44:13,">>136402077 >If you hate Jews then you must be a nazi",,Anonymous,",.jpg",U4hFWhWP4wBwnVQt5LoYxQ==,BR,,1502045053 136384586,136402399,2017-08-06 18:44:32,"What do you think about corporations giving money to politicians? How do you solve this?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1502045072 136384586,136402460,2017-08-06 18:45:10,">>136402158 Communists who do nothing but attack Ayn Rand only do so because they can't actually argue effectively against private property ethics or the economic reality of the benefits of laissez-faire.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045110 136384586,136402515,2017-08-06 18:45:44,">>136402399 Get rid of the government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502045144 136384586,136402530,2017-08-06 18:45:53,">>136402374 Well, it's either that or you're a communist.",,Anonymous,statism.png,2nZh5Yp6OOvTj9su9rqMpQ==,,,1502045153 136384586,136402555,2017-08-06 18:46:13,">>136402399 Oh and what do you think about nokia having slave labour in the congo to extraact cobalto in order to build cellphones? How do you soove this?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1502045173 136384586,136402572,2017-08-06 18:46:20,">>136402399 Get rid of the politicians.",,Anonymous,upotte.png,JLi8RNROlY3ZwJ7p111xXA==,,,1502045180 136384586,136402583,2017-08-06 18:46:27,">>136402399 >Corporation: a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law. A stateless society wouldn't have corporations or politicians, so problem solved.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045187 136384586,136402614,2017-08-06 18:46:44,">>136402460 They can, but unfortunately the intellectual ability of the communists has greatly decreased form the times of Bolsheviks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045204 136384586,136402653,2017-08-06 18:47:12,">>136402530 >Believing in false dichotomies",,Anonymous,",.jpg",ryDMtYMXgs6ybgZqmXUlJg==,BR,,1502045232 136384586,136402684,2017-08-06 18:47:32,">>136402293 >>136402460",,Anonymous,what.png,TUJ1sxS/M/7I+AmiDpvFyg==,,,1502045252 136384586,136402697,2017-08-06 18:47:46,">>136402555 That's the DRC's fault for having such a regulated market. If they let their economy be free market then they wouldn't have that problem.",,Anonymous,chile ven.jpg,hfOl1kRdcRkpKVwed8M2Dg==,,,1502045266 136384586,136402913,2017-08-06 18:50:09,">>136402653 Well, you're not a fascist, your not a capitalist, your not a communist. You're probably not a distributist, and I'm going to safely assume your not a social democrat. Well, you got me, whatever special snowflake ideology you believe in, it sounds retarded already.",,Anonymous,faction.png,Q1Q63SFMiopj7yaVdZ2Hyg==,,,1502045409 136384586,136402917,2017-08-06 18:50:15,">>136402555 Corporations,companies and private businesses are amoral. This means that their actions are not ethical or unethical, they merely respond to demand and consumption.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045415 136384586,136402997,2017-08-06 18:51:01,">>136402653 >basing your entire system of beliefs on logical fallacy",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045461 136384586,136403038,2017-08-06 18:51:30,"ROADS!!!!!!! CHECKMATE DRUMPFKINS!!!111!! ROADS!!!!!111 LIBERTARIANS ARE A JOKE!!!!111!!!",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045490 136384586,136403145,2017-08-06 18:52:45,F,,Anonymous,,,,,1502045565 136384586,136403152,2017-08-06 18:52:49,">>136384586 What's your opinion on the RAISE act? Will it actually boost wages for native workers?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045569 136384586,136403167,2017-08-06 18:52:55,">>136402913 >Jihadi: >+Regressive culture >-Regressive culture",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045575 136384586,136403274,2017-08-06 18:53:57,,,Anonymous,notanothersocialistrodeo.jpg,OWvlFeBZxQ2iCLUL/ReW0A==,,,1502045637 136384586,136403306,2017-08-06 18:54:20,">>136402697 Finland is regulated? How you make that nokia dont enslave childrens in the congo?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1502045660 136384586,136403336,2017-08-06 18:54:37,,,Anonymous,thankswhitey.jpg,LY2/GW+F9bCnzdvZ64iQqA==,,,1502045677 136384586,136403340,2017-08-06 18:54:39,">>136402399 >How do you solve this? Either take away the reason why corporations are giving their money to politicians(ability to regulate in their favor) Or ban donations to politicians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045679 136384586,136403364,2017-08-06 18:54:51,">>136402913 >You're not a fascist I am a fascist, but that doesn't mean i'm a nazi. >>136402997 Show us your real flag, faggot.",,Anonymous,",.jpg",8t5JqF8VH0UJnX7K4CPAgQ==,BR,,1502045691 136384586,136403451,2017-08-06 18:55:55,">>136402917 No my friend, if they pay to politicians to close he economy it is becayse they dont want to habe forein competence",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1502045755 136384586,136403453,2017-08-06 18:55:56,">>136403306 The Congo is heavily regulated. If they want to stop the slavery, they need to unregulate themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045756 136384586,136403463,2017-08-06 18:55:58,">>136403364 I will do it, but only to disprove your anti-jewish bias.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1502045758 136384586,136403510,2017-08-06 18:56:21,,,Anonymous,physicallyremoveed.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,,,1502045781 136384586,136403577,2017-08-06 18:57:00,">>136403364 Viva Salazar.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045820 136384586,136403589,2017-08-06 18:57:11,">>136403453 Now I understand your point",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1502045831 136384586,136403615,2017-08-06 18:57:28,,,Anonymous,hippityhoppity.png,7+YnSudS0t59vER7ZGvLrA==,,,1502045848 136384586,136403689,2017-08-06 18:58:18,">>136403451 Ofcorse they do it, but that does not make them morally responsible for actions of the said politicians, the fault is with those in power who are responsible for political decisions not some interest groups seeking to take advantage.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045898 136384586,136403698,2017-08-06 18:58:21,,,Anonymous,Do it Now.jpg,BxTMJJtUJsbLABdjPB+Yag==,,,1502045901 136384586,136403708,2017-08-06 18:58:27,>>136402572,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-08-02 at 10.19.21 PM.png,NJGV6O+dl0XMMF6sOcBXyw==,US,,1502045907 136384586,136403768,2017-08-06 18:58:56,,,Anonymous,Mises-Socialism-on Collectivism.png,1R3QdXcK41Bc0MS/Zv3RNw==,,,1502045936 136384586,136403843,2017-08-06 18:59:48,"What am I? Am I libertarian?",,Anonymous,IMG_0447.jpg,jXNQGIZWi6Zy+QhDgksUMQ==,US,,1502045988 136384586,136403864,2017-08-06 18:59:55,">>136403152 No. What's keeping the wages down are visas like h1b, h2b (which the RAISE act doesn't touch) etc. Here's how they work: they are bound to a specific company. So you decide to come work here, you get a job at Walmart on h1b, if you aren't working for Walmart, you get deported. So what does this mean for the worker? They can't start their own business, increasing the demand for labor and they can't switch jobs (meaning the employer doesn't have to compete for their labor). Normally increase in supply for labor doesn't lower wages, because a percentage of that new labor goes on to create and start their own business increasing the demand for labor as well. However what is happening here is that there is a increase in the supply for labor, but the demand for labor is kept artificially the same, hence it causes lowering of wages.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502045995 136384586,136403935,2017-08-06 19:00:39,">>136402555 Sweatshops help the poor. It's the only logical and economical activity that people without skills can do. Sufficient to say that they chose to do such work because they hope it will give them better standards of living (if it didn't, why would they work there?)",,Anonymous,,,,,1502046039 136384586,136403976,2017-08-06 19:01:09,>>136397816,,Anonymous,1489556388715.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1502046069 136384586,136404009,2017-08-06 19:01:41,Captcha: Roads lol,,Anonymous,Libertarian Party.png,3Q2AI9LoCVSt4+/GJ9Wu4Q==,,,1502046101 136384586,136404047,2017-08-06 19:02:11,">>136401325 >>136401325 Honestly, subscriptions is such a lazy way to run it. The nature of roads does not allow for the same infrastructure as phones and internet. Allow me to briefly present Walter Block's proposition on the matter: >manufacture cars with magnetic strips, akin to EZ-Pass >build roads with sensors (to save cost, only at every junction, exit, or entrance) >charge each car according to mileage >perhaps reward frequent drivers with lower costs >drivers don't have to be locked in with subscriptions, just drive on the best/cheapest road and let the strip/EZ-Pass/whatever pay the road company's rates >include radar guns and cameras in the sensors >if a vehicle passes by but no magnetic strip is detected, or no account is found, alert the company's defense force and punish the trespasser accordingly >charge slow drivers extra for obstructing traffic >charge speeders for violating the speed limit, if applicable >reward loyal drivers with discounted rates or free miles",,Anonymous,Privatization of Roads.jpg,my8b1F+xZg//ptMKH1Sn8w==,,,1502046131 136384586,136404102,2017-08-06 19:02:49,>>136402158,,Anonymous,1490674483977.png,2sOVfHazKTFKZbYPpcQ2Uw==,,,1502046169 136384586,136404277,2017-08-06 19:04:52,">>136403708 Gay anime shit. Worthless post",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502046292 136384586,136404304,2017-08-06 19:05:14,">>136384586 What do libertarians think of egalitarianism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502046314 136384586,136404461,2017-08-06 19:07:08,">>136404304 It's bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502046428 136384586,136404462,2017-08-06 19:07:08,">>136404047 Interesting, but it not be more economically viable to outsource company`s defense force towards some larger security company.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502046428 136384586,136404464,2017-08-06 19:07:11,">>136404304 Heavily opposed to it. https://mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-and-other-essays",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502046431 136384586,136404469,2017-08-06 19:07:15,">>136404304 Define your egalitarianism first. Nowadays, equality is such a token word that can take very different meanings.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502046435 136384586,136404560,2017-08-06 19:08:14,">>136403976 These are not compatible.",,Anonymous,Bj8DWcRCQAAuGid.jpg,M1DNKNjlHDlnSa1brLMdGQ==,,,1502046494 136384586,136404599,2017-08-06 19:08:45,">>136404469 I mean the definition from the dictionary: The political doctrine that holds that all people in a society should have equal rights from birth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502046525 136384586,136404616,2017-08-06 19:08:54,>all those fucking retards who think capitalism = jews,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1502046534 136384586,136404626,2017-08-06 19:09:00,">>136404560 Why?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502046540 136384586,136404670,2017-08-06 19:09:33,">>136404304 Income inequality isn't bad if the guy on the bottom is doing fine. I don't care if Bill Gates has 40 cars, if I myself live much better off than in those so called ""equal"" countries.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502046573 136384586,136404719,2017-08-06 19:10:02,,,Anonymous,Demcoracyplease.jpg,jmVrb6vDshD/eu8i3uWpbQ==,,,1502046602 136384586,136404763,2017-08-06 19:10:29,">>136404560 Late-stage fascism actually is, since its just a fascist corporation(ie. large syndicate/co-op with rigid internal hierarchy).",,Anonymous,,,,,1502046629 136384586,136404797,2017-08-06 19:10:57,">>136404626 Government control of anything...ever.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502046657 136384586,136404882,2017-08-06 19:11:52,">>136404616 You're not qualified to speak. Poland has an average IQ of only 95 despite being 99 percent white. Don't throw rocks if you live in a shitty straw house.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502046712 136384586,136404906,2017-08-06 19:12:06,">>136404599 Rights are a spook, read Thomas Hobbes.",,Anonymous,Leviathan_by_Thomas_Hobbes.jpg,YxD7Ut19vTArTo2BAmO6ow==,,,1502046726 136384586,136404987,2017-08-06 19:13:04,">>136404599 Well, the only rights truly applicable are property rights. So yeah, in a civilized society, property rights should be respected and applicable to everyone. Now, if by rights you mean ""rights"", like ""right to healthcare/education/equal pay/etc."", those are bullshit, since it affects others (example: public education is financed by taxpayers that would not have spent their money that way if they had the choice)",,Anonymous,,,,,1502046784 136384586,136404994,2017-08-06 19:13:08,">>136404882 Poles are better educated than Americans, actually most of the developed world is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502046788 136384586,136405208,2017-08-06 19:15:46,">>136403843 Paleoconservative",,Anonymous,libertatis_equilibritas_by_the_wandering_kid-d6uhg2g.png,o7RHmDmwKpTWZXnNfq2a1w==,CA,,1502046946 136384586,136405314,2017-08-06 19:16:48,">>136385241 take the country's entire budget and put it all on red",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1502047008 136384586,136405639,2017-08-06 19:20:01,">>136404882 >Poland has an average IQ of only 95 despite being 99 percent white. where the fuck did that come from?",,Anonymous,Screenshot from 2017-08-07 01-18-49.png,feyp+l3HdyDxwzLaUXlJZg==,PL,,1502047201 136384586,136405878,2017-08-06 19:22:39,">>136384586 Austin Petersen rejects the NAP. Can he still be considered a libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502047359 136384586,136405895,2017-08-06 19:22:50,">>136404462 Well, sure. Why devote your budget to armory, training, police cars, and so on, when you can just have one item for ""security"" and hire out a separate company to take care of all that for you? Decentralization allows for maximum division of labor.",,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,,,1502047370 136384586,136406005,2017-08-06 19:24:06,">>136405639 Form Richard Lynn`s and Vanhanen`s research in 2010. They used too small sample sizes to get accurate results and according to most of scientific community tampered with the samples that they were getting by picking individuals. Only reason why he posts that as fact is due to infografs and image marcroes of their research that is floating around here due to them proving that Sub-Saharan Africa has lower IQ than 67 in some places.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502047446 136384586,136406107,2017-08-06 19:25:22,">>136399381 How would you legally expand your community to fit with increasing population size?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1502047522 136384586,136406287,2017-08-06 19:27:25,">>136405878 Consequentialists are widely regarded as 'libertarians', and they don't believe in the NAP but rather just believe it's the best system. However, you could make the case they're not libertarians. This question really needs you to define libertarian - in modern political discourse it's just a group of people who want to enact small-government policies and make a 'libertarian' system, but i'd argue that there is no such thing as a libertarian system, since libertarians are anti-system. Murray Rothbard I think described libertarianism as a 'philosophy looking for a policy' - this is pretty clearly not consistent with people who don't believe in the NAP. So what do you mean by 'libertarian'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502047645 136384586,136406643,2017-08-06 19:31:04,">>136406287 When I first found the ideology, I thought it was about small govt, the nap, and property rights. Am I missing something?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502047864 136384586,136406839,2017-08-06 19:33:05,">>136406107 Buy more property.",,Anonymous,フィゼィカル•リムーヴァル.png,SoP5d3E8mNpq9UkRDRPqPA==,,,1502047985 136384586,136407020,2017-08-06 19:35:14,">>136404599 When he says ""define it"" he means put it in quantifiable terms, not look it up in the dictionary. >society should have equal rights from birth. I have no idea what this means. Equal rights to what? What is a right? Afaik the US gives everyone equal rights since birth, under the law.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502048114 136384586,136407177,2017-08-06 19:37:11,">>136407020 Again, what is a society? Is society the state? You ""defined"" your term, by introducing 4 other ambiguous terms.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502048231 136384586,136407599,2017-08-06 19:41:37,">>136407177 Sorry, that I'm confusing/ambiguous. I'm relatively new to the libertarian / AnCap ideology. I came here to learn more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502048497 136384586,136407894,2017-08-06 19:44:32,">>136384586 Libertarians are worse than Liberals. Libertarians are the enemy within on the right. Their divisionist philosophies are what will make the USA soft enough for muslims to divide and conquer.",,Anonymous,1473662806138.gif,EQgmh8dvJSLZYsjkR5+vOg==,US,,1502048672 136384586,136408158,2017-08-06 19:47:10,">>136407894 >Unirnonically thinks that his country is even relatively threatened by anything",,Anonymous,,,,,1502048830 136384586,136408461,2017-08-06 19:50:06,">>136404882 >libertarian using averages to discredit an individual Go and bitch on Facebook about how you can't afford an iPhone while working in McDonalds, you fucking burger. Your country is going to shit. Enjoy multiculturalism, post-modernism, liberalism and cultural marxism in general while I live in my 97% white christian country with strong family values and beautiful women. Also I'm not entirely Polish and I fucking guarantee you that I have higher living standards than you do.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1495363496373.jpg,o+e119ddOo2rhRsFLJrNQQ==,PL,,1502049006 136384586,136408556,2017-08-06 19:51:03,,,Anonymous,1498846650192.png,ufi5Te+fL5H5q89heDz8+A==,GB,,1502049063 136384586,136408655,2017-08-06 19:51:57,">>136407599 Yes, but you have to define your terms in a simple straightforward manner, to even begin to argue for or against something. You know the saying: ""talk to me like i'm 5"", if you can explain your position to a 5 year old, then you probably have a good grasp of it. I still have no idea what you consider a right: is healthcare a right, is property a right? etc. I have no idea what is a society: is society a country? is it a local community? For example, if you define these two terms a certain way (not saying that those are your definitions necessarily), than the United States is an egalitarian society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502049117 136384586,136408672,2017-08-06 19:52:07,">>136408556 Jews not welcome they violate the NAP.",,Anonymous,1484866619039.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,,,1502049127 136384586,136408675,2017-08-06 19:52:08,">>136401760 Because it is the most efficient way to get them off your property.*",,Anonymous,,,,,1502049128 136384586,136408707,2017-08-06 19:52:25,">>136408556 Everyone in this thread agrees; the libertarian party is Jewish crypto leftist trash.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502049145 136384586,136408734,2017-08-06 19:52:38,">>136408556 >actually thinking that Jews would benefit from less (((government))) intervention in the economy",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1502049158 136384586,136408807,2017-08-06 19:53:24,>libertarians,,Anonymous,1498842974348.png,LG5tkNK6C/ALMrsTtxZdJA==,GB,,1502049204 136384586,136408919,2017-08-06 19:54:30,">>136408734 They already own the capital, so yes they would.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502049270 136384586,136409140,2017-08-06 19:56:39,">>136408919 Decentralizing the currency and privatizing everything would ruin them. They control education, healthcare, public transport. Everything (((public))) belongs to them.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1502049399 136384586,136409567,2017-08-06 20:01:00,">>136409140 Banking and insurance are their primary industries, alongside hedge fund management and general offshore accounting. There is little profit to be made in public industry.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502049660 136384586,136409861,2017-08-06 20:03:42,">>136385770 >>136385859 >>136402158 >>136408556 >calling ayn rand a libertarian",,Anonymous,Ayn Rand on Libertarianism.jpg,O/2MWTy9NrtiBFtcW45aYg==,,,1502049822 136384586,136410490,2017-08-06 20:10:33,">>136408807 Everyone knows the Cato institute is controlled opposition dude. Soro funds those ""open society"" fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502050233 136384586,136411826,2017-08-06 20:24:08,">>136385859 quit your bullshit propaganda bullshit — ayn rand DETESTED libertarians. three quarters of what you've posted is utter horseshit you fuckface.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502051048 136384586,136412135,2017-08-06 20:27:09,">>136406107 Appropriate more land",,Anonymous,,,,,1502051229 136384586,136412650,2017-08-06 20:33:07,">>136409861 Of course she can, damn disease of the brain that is having a vagina in the modern age",,Anonymous,E6786405-F251-4990-AA07-9926312C2F0D-3788-0000050901B54110.jpg,ptXG7t99x4dKZ57P3KjXVQ==,US,,1502051587 136413628,136413628,2017-08-06 20:43:52,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. DISCORD LINK: 7UcGBmn THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Open] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Open] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Open] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Open] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Open]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,IMG_0823.jpg,WLhVyVWJfgi2ZpVbTi1nCQ==,,,1502052232 136413628,136414345,2017-08-06 20:52:11,WHY don't you people realize that libertarian is another word for nazi?,,Anonymous,,,,,1502052731 136413628,136415573,2017-08-06 21:06:10,">>136414345 That literally makes no sense whatsoever.",,Anonymous,tread.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,,,1502053570 136413628,136416162,2017-08-06 21:12:06,">tfw can't decide between worker-oriented fascism, classical liberalism, and aristocratic monarchism i just shill for anything right-wing, basically.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502053926 136413628,136416359,2017-08-06 21:14:36,">>136416162 protect your 2a, the rest can be achieved with that.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1502054076 136413628,136417179,2017-08-06 21:24:05,">>136413628 friendly reminder to all fascists that left-wing ""economic"" policies are responsible for the gibsmedats that attracted millions of muslims and niggers into Europe and North America >>136415573 Miia is /our snek/",,Anonymous,Miia phone.gif,5zjKkbGIFRyPSgUUi7n8wg==,PT,,1502054645 136413628,136417321,2017-08-06 21:25:44,"College Climate Denier to Announce Run for Local Office: https://youtu.be/CHjpmxxyow4",,Anonymous,image.png,rjXB3i8SGttyjFXtQJ4FnQ==,US,,1502054744 136413628,136417364,2017-08-06 21:26:07,">>136414345 Hey buddy, seems like you're new here! Here's a pretty picture to help you out. Enjoy your stay!",,Anonymous,pol.png,ek2YUt8CWMAXsG1bROBqNw==,,,1502054767 136413628,136417366,2017-08-06 21:26:08,">>136413628 Lauren Southern isn't a libertarian. She is a nationalist and traditionalist who spends most of her time fighting mass immigration and feminism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502054768 136413628,136417406,2017-08-06 21:26:38,">>136417179 The fascists are well-intentioned, but they choose the most complicated way of solving a simple problem. Take away the gibs, allow business discrimination, and stop importing and housing the muslims using the people's tax dollars, and the situation will resolve itself naturally.",,Anonymous,snek.png,lEuuT3i2A5isIOmEq+QQNg==,,,1502054798 136413628,136417669,2017-08-06 21:29:44,">>136413628 Fucking embarrassing to use that flag and then ruining the thread by posting a picture of that jewish harpy. She's not even a libertarian. Just another opportunist. Fucking numales posting their caked up whores just because they believe a woman is actually interested in learning and believing in your ideology when its obvious they don't, they don't know a single thing about it, and they're doing it for attention/shekels. Nothing but astroturfing whores is what those dumb altkike youtube cunts are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502054984 136413628,136417960,2017-08-06 21:33:21,">>136413628 Taxes prevent chaos and helps maintain a coherent civilization and heritage.",,Anonymous,benjamin-franklin.jpg,jTggTlMGh94aKBaXAIlGNA==,CA,,1502055201 136413628,136417982,2017-08-06 21:33:36,I wish I could see Lauren Southern's real eye colour.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502055216 136413628,136418022,2017-08-06 21:34:13,">>136417179 That's actually colonialism and corporations looking for cheap and servile labour that are responsible for migration in the first place And it's decade of warmongering and agressive foreign policy from western country that have led to the current refugee crisis, propped by military industries and oil companies",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1502055253 136413628,136418098,2017-08-06 21:35:06,">>136417982 Boy and girl",,Anonymous,trans.jpg,h451oQmOXL7eVAEJ1003Aw==,CA,,1502055306 136413628,136418114,2017-08-06 21:35:22,">>136417960 Some guy coming to your door and stealing your shit PREVENTS chaos and MAINTAINS civilization?",,Anonymous,popo.jpg,Vbsy1DKrEj3UwURBCIY3Ww==,,,1502055322 136413628,136418203,2017-08-06 21:36:23,">>136417669 Lauren Southern isn't Jewish, but I'm 99% sure that you are. ;)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502055383 136413628,136418356,2017-08-06 21:38:19,">>136418114 No theft involved as you have previously agreed to a contract called democracy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502055499 136413628,136418439,2017-08-06 21:39:23,">>136418203 >Lauren Southern isn't Jewish >Kike Southern",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502055563 136413628,136418612,2017-08-06 21:41:36,">>136418356 I have agreed to no such contract. Where is this contract? I would like to rip it up, as I never signed it.",,Anonymous,miia.png,UsJjROxjGUMBKto9/xrofg==,,,1502055696 136413628,136418835,2017-08-06 21:44:29,">>136418612 Your ancestors did and it's binding over generations. Part of the constitution as it were. So if you wish to renounce it, you can. All you have to do is have this changed for you by the democratically elected legislators.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502055869 136413628,136419004,2017-08-06 21:46:40,">>136418835 where does it say that exactly?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1502056000 136413628,136419035,2017-08-06 21:47:00,">>136418835 >Your ancestors did and it's binding over generations Which means I signed the contract?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502056020 136413628,136419067,2017-08-06 21:47:19,">>136418835 >it's binding over generations So it is not a legitimate contract. And seeing as to how I do not see my family name signed on the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution, I see no reason to see myself as a part of this contract.",,Anonymous,liberty.jpg,U5Cj2n8gCflZ17E1MTk0Bw==,,,1502056039 136413628,136419154,2017-08-06 21:48:25,">>136419067 Like I said, you know how to change it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502056105 136413628,136419270,2017-08-06 21:49:36,"I tried starting a thread like this only to get saged. ffs, you ppl are fucked in the head! Y'all neck yourselves, you fucking retards!",,Anonymous,,,,,1502056176 136413628,136419375,2017-08-06 21:50:35,">>136413628 She really need to do a blacked video. I would pay for that",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1502056235 136413628,136419520,2017-08-06 21:52:11,">>136419154 there's nothing to change if we didn't sign it in the first place",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1502056331 136413628,136419578,2017-08-06 21:52:54,">>136413628 >Lauren >(((libertarian))) have you seen her recent videos? I give it six months before she goes full fash",,Anonymous,laura southern looking at penis.jpg,J6vW9dqC/w7VQq/Y37z6kg==,US,,1502056374 136413628,136419864,2017-08-06 21:56:20,">>136419520 Lookup the tax code and you can deduct how in this case your signature isn't necessary to make this contract binding. Now time to pay.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502056580 136413628,136419951,2017-08-06 21:57:18,">>136419154 I can't change it, because millions of other people who do ""sign the contract"" vote to keep it, and I can't opt out either.",,Anonymous,wow.gif,yH901JOQuQtgJLRqZ2emuA==,,,1502056638 136413628,136420118,2017-08-06 21:59:06,">>136419864 Get fucked you stupid leaf. If you love taxes so much, why don't you suck Trudeau's cock for providing you with so many?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502056746 136413628,136420193,2017-08-06 21:59:54,">>136419864 >Now time to pay. Nah. The government may steal your shit at gunpoint, but they're not very efficient at knowing when to steal your shit. Hence why we have agorism.",,Anonymous,catgirl.png,TUUOMgb/zLHYqo0fvR9yYw==,,,1502056794 136413628,136420255,2017-08-06 22:00:44,">>136419864 alright new contract. you're my slave now. i don't need your signature, and the contract is binding over generations.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1502056844 136413628,136420323,2017-08-06 22:01:32,"Discuss >>136417547",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1502056892 136413628,136420358,2017-08-06 22:01:54,">>136419951 >millions of other people who do ""sign the contract"" vote to keep it Well isn't this thread about changing this? >>136420118 >stupid leaf That's all you've got?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502056914 136413628,136420497,2017-08-06 22:03:20,">>136420358 >Well isn't this thread about changing this? Yes, and then you came and said >>136417960",,Anonymous,troopers.jpg,OwJo2Qg25FDmlxpm+RWSUQ==,,,1502057000 136413628,136420531,2017-08-06 22:03:44,">>136413628 >Lauren has two hedgehogs >Pewds got a hedgehog recently as well >what could this possibly mean? RICEWAR WHEN?",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1502057024 136413628,136420568,2017-08-06 22:04:08,">>136420255 sure anon",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502057048 136413628,136420611,2017-08-06 22:04:42,">>136417364 Fascism isn't inherently right-wing, tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502057082 136413628,136420641,2017-08-06 22:04:56,"When a statist asks me who will pay for the roads, how do I reply without being laughed at?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502057096 136413628,136420719,2017-08-06 22:05:50,">>136420531 Get on her level.",,Anonymous,blep.jpg,nJeyJh/4jO16V1pvZ7SV7w==,AU,,1502057150 136413628,136420769,2017-08-06 22:06:21,">>136420568 i know you'd like that, and you're a bad example for this since you're a leaf. but other people would not like that and it's immoral to coerce someone to be your slave and use a bureaucratic contract as an excuse.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1502057181 136413628,136420805,2017-08-06 22:06:43,">>136413628 Good luck with your libertarian society when America resembles Brazil and Europe resembles North Africa and 90% of babies are born outside of a nuclear family. Good luck with that you retards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502057203 136413628,136420851,2017-08-06 22:07:21,">>136418439 Did you not see her DNS results? she's mostly Iberian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502057241 136413628,136420872,2017-08-06 22:07:35,">>136420641 toll roads are already a thing you know? and they're much better than publicly funded pothole ridden roads.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1502057255 136413628,136421018,2017-08-06 22:09:08,">>136420497 So I agree with taxing for basic services needed to maintain cohesive government to prevent chaos. You just want a free ride.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502057348 136413628,136421376,2017-08-06 22:13:18,">>136420851 >IBERIAN HAHAHA EVEN WORSE SHE'S A MOORE SPAWN",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502057598 136413628,136421454,2017-08-06 22:14:26,">>136421018 It sounds more like you want a free ride, since you insist that the government tax other people to pay for the services you want. The fact that other people try to evade this tax that you forcefully put on them is only natural.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1502057666 136413628,136421495,2017-08-06 22:14:52,>>136421376,,Anonymous,le 60% man vs Iberia.png,ON14l05HDVsU15T+NkTSrw==,PT,,1502057692 136413628,136421496,2017-08-06 22:14:52,">>136420641 Walter Block wrote a book called ""Privatization of the Roads and Highways"", available for free on the Mises Institute (epub or pdf) or for $25 on Audible. I think it's a very good formulation of a privatized road system. Basically, the people who use the roads pay for them when they use them. >make magnetically encoded strips, similar to EZ-Pass >motorists purchase them and slap'em on their vehicle(s) before heading out >companies lay down sensors along their roads to detect who drives on their roads and for how long >these sensors read the magnetic encodings and charge to the linked accounts, probably on a per-mile basis >if a motorist doesn't like his regular route, just take a better one without any hassle >build radar guns/cameras into the sensors to detect freeloaders/trespassers and alert the company's security force This is heavily simplified. Block goes into a lot more of the nitty-gritty and what-ifs in the book itself.",,Anonymous,Privatization of Roads.jpg,9rEYM+HPrgALDw3ak4fcKA==,,,1502057692 136413628,136421625,2017-08-06 22:16:10,">>136420851 *DNA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502057770 136413628,136421762,2017-08-06 22:17:45,">>136421376 She's possibly north Iberian which explains why she still has her ""white"" complexion. Southern Iberian are usually moorish looking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502057865 136413628,136421813,2017-08-06 22:18:19,">>136421454 Think of it as insurance. You paid into it but if someone else makes a claims you don't complain since you might make a claim as well.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502057899 136413628,136421984,2017-08-06 22:20:07,">>136421495 >portugal I never said anything about any country. I'm talking about Lauren Southern and the fact she has Iberian blood. She has moore blood. She's a nigger spawn. The fact someone hailing from the Iberian peninsula was assblasted enough to draw an mspaint comic with overblown facial features and calling Americans nonwhite is hilarious. It may a 60% white but those whites aren't muslim rape babies like kike Southern.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502058007 136413628,136422109,2017-08-06 22:21:32,">>136421813 Usually the insurance company asks permission before taking your money. Seeing as to how I seem to be getting a lot less out of this involuntary ""insurance"" than I'm putting in, I prefer to avoid paying taxes or really doing anything to help the government whenever possible.",,Anonymous,pistol.jpg,R90GQnhRuU2YRiOGd59H0A==,,,1502058092 136413628,136422120,2017-08-06 22:21:41,">>136421496 >they actually have a book on how to operate a toll road Jesus fucking christ humans don't deserve ancap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502058101 136413628,136422201,2017-08-06 22:22:34,">>136421984 >American """"""""""""""""""""""whites"""""""""""""""""""""""""" >white hahahahahahaha",,Anonymous,white americans.jpg,fWXqOhft+lybmC+rFSOPkg==,PT,,1502058154 136413628,136422479,2017-08-06 22:25:15,">>136421496 I think that's a horribly inefficient way to replace already inefficient systems. Also, what a fucking nightmare to privatize roads so fiercely that we pay for every mile traveled. Does that seem just a tad excessive to you?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502058315 136413628,136422565,2017-08-06 22:26:14,">>136422201 >portugal >white At least spain fought hard and conquered the new world, you guys just got raped into submission and are only known for a mere victory against street shitter sailors. Not that any of this matters in modern day Europe. Enjoy rapefugees you beta trial Brazilian.",,Anonymous,lemon.png,h5s/I7hUaBtJ9OI1Cvw3vA==,US,,1502058374 136413628,136422591,2017-08-06 22:26:28,">>136422109 It's just part of the contract I mentioned earlier related to democracy and such. If your house burns, you have firemen as part of that insurance.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502058388 136413628,136422727,2017-08-06 22:27:45,">>136422479 Somehow they believe this is cheaper but it obviously isn't. Going to be now. Working tomorrow, taxes to pay.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502058465 136413628,136422786,2017-08-06 22:28:26,">>136422565 >amerimutt thinks he's white lmao",,Anonymous,white american.png,io1hsHjrS9033ElwfTp89w==,PT,,1502058506 136413628,136422909,2017-08-06 22:29:42,">>136422479 Paying every time you use someone's property, and proportional to how much property you use, seems perfectly reasonable to me. >what a fucking nightmare to privatize roads so fiercely that we pay for every mile traveled >what a fucking nightmare to privatize phones so fiercely that we pay for every minute of calls >what a fucking nightmare to privatize the internet so fiercely that we pay for every gigabyte of data >what a fucking nightmare to privatize the commercial flight industry so fiercely that we pay for every mile flown >what a fucking nightmare to privatize the gasoline industry so fiercely that we pay for every gallon used",,Anonymous,,,,,1502058582 136413628,136422916,2017-08-06 22:29:47,">>136422591 Yes, but I never signed that contract. I'll take the few benefits of it, seeing as to how they already steal enough shit from me, but I'm gonna put in as little as possible. For a contract to be valid, you have to have actually signed it. Seeing as to how I never did, this ""contract"" I supposedly have with the government is not valid.",,Anonymous,StarshipTroopers.jpg,WsJ8uJ/vi31nWFP17PvWRA==,,,1502058587 136413628,136422923,2017-08-06 22:29:50,">>136422786 >Moorebrood >Spawned Brazilians Lol",,Anonymous,YOU.png,P91W5V3aL7BC9QRSwTBcvw==,US,,1502058590 136413628,136422940,2017-08-06 22:29:58,">>136422201 >using crime stats to show america isn't white i'm le 56% face but they list spics as white based on political correctness bullshit because whites commit no crime",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502058598 136413628,136423184,2017-08-06 22:32:35,">>136422916 >>136422591 Would a contract that allows you to forfeit taxes in exchange for forfeiting emergency services and other tax benefits satisfy both of you?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502058755 136413628,136423517,2017-08-06 22:36:13,">>136423184 That would be satisfactory to me.",,Anonymous,engineer.jpg,CYj76V+idDC90jLcTtqg3A==,,,1502058973 136413628,136423659,2017-08-06 22:37:56,">>136422909 I don't disagree with any of what you listed in your post just now, I accept all of those as examples of privatization, but privatization of basic amenities and services leads to corporate overreach. As a Canadian we experience was higher internet costs than the US simply because they can. I don't disagree the system would work, I just don't see why we feel like we need that change. We can probably just redo tax laws easier than removing government from roads completely.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502059076 136413628,136424823,2017-08-06 22:50:53,">>136423659 Part of the problem is what we call ""externalities"". The corporate overreach you speak of wouldn't be a problem if there were more competing ISPs, but because an existing ISP with a large consumer base can drive down prices and prevent new ISPs from appearing, there's basically an oligopoly (the ""externality"" is that an ISP becomes more useful when it gets more business). Block addresses this matter with respect to roads in another chapter of the book; admittedly I'm only two chapters in. Will get back to you if I like his proposition.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502059853 136413628,136425187,2017-08-06 22:55:27,">>136420805 Racist. Everybody is the same. Just let people love, live and let life fascist, looking forward to punching you. Alerta alerta, antifascista!",,Anonymous,,,,,1502060127 136413628,136425852,2017-08-06 23:02:47,">>136424823 I don't know much about externalities, but I know that the Chileans managed to privatize their water with great success, so we know that at minimum we don't need water to be government owned.",,Anonymous,snake.jpg,4xISE/bg7Awam4wvtCDQ/A==,,,1502060567 136413628,136426164,2017-08-06 23:06:25,">>136413628 Oh boy, i got some good memes. Time to get cozy",,Anonymous,1501478680878.jpg,zRtGGyrFRltXm1R5hI6Fcg==,US,,1502060785 136413628,136426297,2017-08-06 23:07:51,>>136426164,,Anonymous,1498729477543.jpg,6ejSHMRfmkgph72YhkpEPw==,US,,1502060871 136413628,136426349,2017-08-06 23:08:30,>>136426297,,Anonymous,1498743848725.jpg,BQ8yf6GuMnX2hld3RBdvHg==,US,,1502060910 136413628,136426416,2017-08-06 23:09:12,>>136426349,,Anonymous,1498731364458.jpg,0CmzadeoE3UEPVsa7YvM7Q==,US,,1502060952 136413628,136426523,2017-08-06 23:10:27,>>136426416,,Anonymous,1499889971286.png,3RR6LwUGaz6zRhMPbHXNzw==,US,,1502061027 136413628,136426676,2017-08-06 23:12:09,>>136426523,,Anonymous,1499411293464.png,BtggOgvUYDzdOvlXpCLMrA==,US,,1502061129 136413628,136426789,2017-08-06 23:13:26,>>136426676,,Anonymous,1498965553024.jpg,f0Xipq2IaVZB0GrzYWaGyg==,US,,1502061206 136413628,136426836,2017-08-06 23:13:55,">>136426349 I'm very confused by this picture",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502061235 136413628,136427040,2017-08-06 23:16:35,">>136426676 lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502061395 136413628,136427141,2017-08-06 23:17:49,">>136418098 Yeah, I can tell. (I don't get these face-blind people who can't recognize a trap.)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502061469 136413628,136427837,2017-08-06 23:26:35,(((libertarian))),,Anonymous,lauren southern finnshill.png,FlvGQkBrewsx/2lxbHP/Vw==,US,,1502061995 136449087,136449087,2017-08-07 05:15:24,,/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,Hoppe Lynn Spencer Gottfried some other guy.jpg,cHj3WfD8NHOmHvDMDZxlTA==,DE,,1502082924 136449087,136449960,2017-08-07 05:32:33,bump,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1502083953 136449087,136450204,2017-08-07 05:36:47,">>136449960 Yaaa, it is good, eh.",,Anonymous,images (63).jpg,82YjOoX/Heqz4zUuJ77yrA==,AU,,1502084207 136534244,136534244,2017-08-07 22:37:57,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,264b6e60b707cb529cf4531c4266d6c1fad3c97bb82f8cd60fffba127760c73b.png,RZr3AmpVEpYKqqY4gyhrKw==,,,1502145477 136534244,136534715,2017-08-07 22:43:03,">Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) lol fuck off ancap. youre dumber than the statists you despise.",,Anonymous,ancaps r fags (2016_10_28 00_03_11 UTC).jpg,2erqFoRnh6YXAAwueHRKiw==,US,,1502145783 136534244,136534918,2017-08-07 22:45:05,">>136534715 heres your (you)",,Anonymous,,,,,1502145905 136534244,136534941,2017-08-07 22:45:14,">>136534715 What did you mean by this?",,Anonymous,ancap_think.png,SDwjnzLvU89QiSUfvzYQIw==,GB,,1502145914 136534244,136535018,2017-08-07 22:46:02,This is a map of economic freedom,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-08-02 at 7.28.59 PM.png,pBYU58MyIxf1OGZ5iwS9AQ==,,,1502145962 136534244,136535055,2017-08-07 22:46:25,This is a map of GDP per capita,,Anonymous,capita.png,of3KHMcErGQQXX1YGGUhKA==,,,1502145985 136534244,136535092,2017-08-07 22:46:50,This is a map of the Human Development Index,,Anonymous,3rd world.png,VBXoX+NhkFXhhLKfutuL0Q==,,,1502146010 136534244,136535126,2017-08-07 22:47:08,This is a map of corruption,,Anonymous,corruption.jpg,Tq1gh7jh+sMg1UEeAAoKSw==,,,1502146028 136534244,136535181,2017-08-07 22:47:42,">>136535018 >>136535055 >>136535092 >>136535126 As you can see, the more economic freedom a nation has, the more economic prosperity it has.",,Anonymous,tank top.jpg,2F8jNRK6Gzj8Lj5m6oFsgg==,,,1502146062 136534244,136535288,2017-08-07 22:48:51,">>136534244 we must work together like how Anarchists and Commies are How Feminists and Immigrants are we protect the west",,Anonymous,1500322094481.png,Ojlqu3jHhFdLO/PCLvrnlA==,CA,,1502146131 136534244,136535435,2017-08-07 22:50:17,">>136534715 >>136534941 basically some kind of half-assed bait",,Anonymous,,,,,1502146217 136534244,136536435,2017-08-07 23:00:02,">>136535288 After any revolution that commies and anarchists fought together, one killed the other. There's no ""work together"", join us or be physically removed from the libertarian society",,Anonymous,,,,,1502146802 136534244,136536455,2017-08-07 23:00:16,"I've always felt dissatisfied with the terminology of the average political compass. To say that libertarianism describes one end of the axis just doesn't feel right, because left-wing ideologies generally do not espouse any kind of freedom. I also feel like the term ""libertarian"" makes us sound like we don't believe in hierarchy at all, which is complete denial of reality. I know ""decentralized naturalism"" doesn't quite roll off the tongue like right-wing libertarianism does, but is my compass at least accurate?",,Anonymous,plain english.png,kug79Zg0Ax/CHgNDfAtG4w==,,,1502146816 136534244,136536741,2017-08-07 23:03:19,Bump,,Anonymous,osamancap.png,Yl4w1tH0enXOfROkuwU02A==,US,,1502146999 136534244,136537105,2017-08-07 23:06:46,">>136535126 >>136535092 >>136535055 >>136535018 Here's a map of all the places where societies survive without governments",,Anonymous,banana bitch (2016_10_28 00_03_11 UTC).png,cDbT0M2JnTqe1RgdbZMAYA==,US,,1502147206 136534244,136537321,2017-08-07 23:09:11,I've been here since /pol/ started. Ancap is bigger on here now than it's ever been. Claiming ancap /pol/ is separate from nu-/pol/ is ridiculous.,,Anonymous,,,,,1502147351 136534244,136537534,2017-08-07 23:11:11,">>136534244 Daily reminder that the gap between wages and productivity (aka wage stagnation) is a myth pushed by leftist retards. Wages =/= compensation It has as much basis in reality as the gender pay gap.",,Anonymous,heritage-chart.gif,UOozxHskYyAeoaUcDsKS4w==,US,,1502147471 136534244,136537666,2017-08-07 23:12:26,,,Anonymous,IMG_0177.jpg,PqC6BBdE6NTizAT7qWBydA==,US,,1502147546 136534244,136537671,2017-08-07 23:12:30,">>136537105 If the less government intervention there is, the more prosperous a society is, then it would be logical to assume that getting rid of the government completely would bring about the most prosperous society possible. We already know that privatizing things such as water utilities has seen great success, despite these services being viewed as too ""valuable"" to privatize, so it is likely that there are other government services that we could also privatize despite (or because of) their importance.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1502147550 136534244,136538053,2017-08-07 23:16:15,">>136537534 >(aka wage stagnation) is a myth pushed by leftist retards. wot? if you melted 5 quarters (1960 minimum wage) from the 1960s they melt into $16 today. can you do basic math?",,Anonymous,keynescucks.png,ZbuRVJ61d5FsIwqwffmpyA==,US,,1502147775 136534244,136538215,2017-08-07 23:17:40,">>136534244 Libertarianism is the handmaiden of statism. An atomized society of autonomous individuals with no collective morality, identity, etc. is less willing to help others. The government steps in to do the things individuals are unwilling to do. Overtime they take on more responsibilities, and thus require more tax dollars and legislation. The reason cancerous identity politics has emerged is because the automatons of the West no longer share anything in common. With nothing in common we revert to the most base forms of identity: skin colour, sexuality, and even gender.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502147860 136534244,136540014,2017-08-07 23:35:04,">>136537671 Economic prosperity is irrelevant when you don't have a single standing army. You can be the best gun-flipping trigger happy american out there, that's still not going to take out a foreign threat. No, multiple competing private armies will never be able to reach the same kind of coordination as a centralized permanent armed force. At most you'd have a clusterfuck similar to the soup of letters that composed the French ""Resistance"". Sure, free market is nice. That doesn't mean you get to ignore geopolitics though.",,Anonymous,1476161352074.jpg,Zjndi92apFtpo8pVKJrxJQ==,BR,,1502148904 136534244,136540828,2017-08-07 23:43:52,">>136540014 It may not be able to project power overseas in great amounts, but ancapistan would be an absolute bitch to invade. To start with, the very act of invading would likely cause a crash in international economics, given that Ancapistan would be a huge tax haven and economic powerhouse. Combine that with the fact that there would be a disproportionately high amount of heavily armed resistance, and the land itself that Ancapistan is on would likely be almost worthless (likely being a micro-state or seastead) and you end up with an anarchist society that is certainly conquerable, but has very few benefits to doing so.",,Anonymous,Snow.png,TzG0ymFgWV8bzczWDRdgKg==,,,1502149432 136534244,136541151,2017-08-07 23:47:16,"friendly reminder that there is literally NOTHING WRONG with killing commies >A member of the human race who is completely incapable of understanding the higher productivity of labor performed under a division of labor based on private property is not properly speaking a person… but falls instead into the same moral category as an animal – of either the harmless sort (to be domesticated and employed as a producer or consumer good, or to be enjoyed as a “free good”) or the wild and dangerous one (to be fought as a pest).",,Anonymous,1501450327222.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,,,1502149636 136534244,136541191,2017-08-07 23:47:41,">>136534244 Dropping some Friedman Redpills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdgv7n9xCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYgiOC9cj4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-BGi4NIFww",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502149661 136534244,136541548,2017-08-07 23:51:27,">>136537671 >We already know that privatizing things such as water utilities has seen great success Where?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502149887 136534244,136542010,2017-08-07 23:56:48,">>136537671 >then it would be logical to assume that getting rid of the government completely would bring about the most prosperous society possible. yes, because too much of a good thing never happens. water is good for life, so you might as well drown trying to drink a lake",,Anonymous,anime smug3 (2016_10_28 00_03_11 UTC).jpg,VxO+MvgjXnhvorTy0F0VvA==,US,,1502150208 136534244,136542105,2017-08-07 23:57:46,">>136541548 Chile is the most extreme example (in that they went full privatization, instead of the half measures most other countries took)",,Anonymous,troopers.jpg,OwJo2Qg25FDmlxpm+RWSUQ==,,,1502150266 136534244,136542323,2017-08-08 00:00:18,">>136542105 And by what metric is it better than public ownership and operation? How much accounting for existing equipment, property, rights is factored into that metric?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502150418 136534244,136542481,2017-08-08 00:02:12,"Finally, I've been waiting for this thread. Why is there so much time between /lrg/s?",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-10.44.48.jpg,0OWign27FNoOxUrefqPwGQ==,US,,1502150532 136534244,136542532,2017-08-08 00:02:53,">>136534244 On the last point on degeneracy: it is precisely because you lack power to set a standard for society that it will degenerate. Leaving the fags and niggers to flood into communities and 'do as they please with their own lives' allows for social parasites to subvert your culture and demographically replace you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502150573 136534244,136542556,2017-08-08 00:03:07,">>136534715 Low quality b8. Looks like its straight out of an edgy middleschoolers tumblr.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502150587 136534244,136542627,2017-08-08 00:04:04,What do you guys think of this?,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-06-12.24.19.png,hbCBkS+ZzS6+zWTBHiUW6g==,US,,1502150644 136534244,136542740,2017-08-08 00:05:41,">>136542532 I think a fusion between the 2 is the only correct way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502150741 136534244,136542775,2017-08-08 00:06:16,">>136534918 >>136534941 >>136542556 >>136535435 Not an argument, calling something bait without describing how it is bait and why you can dismiss the contradictions of the NAP is, by definition, not positing a point. Nobody cares about the NAP. People will commit crime as they do, there will simply be a lack of authority to stop them so long as it doesn't infringe on you/your property, which is the same reason why the abolition of statist borders falls apart, too: it allows for the conditions to sow the seeds of destruction within a society, making it less cohesive and less inclined to assist their fellow countrymen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502150776 136534244,136542978,2017-08-08 00:08:35,">>136542740 No, the most efficient and no-bullshit way is to remove the leftists and the social parasites subverting traditionalist culture outright. Can't argue for the preservation of the NAP when Marxists who simply believe the tenets and don't follow them are removed via central authority (read: helicopters) because you ideologically disagree with them. If I believe that murder is okay but never kill anyone, you cannot remove me (while simultaneously kowtowing to the NAP) on the basis of your subjective interpretation of an opinion I hold. I don't give a shit, I disregard the NAP because I am not some classical liberal who believes law extends to all people, or that the NAP is universally applied to everyone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502150915 136534244,136543155,2017-08-08 00:10:38,">>136540828 >but ancapistan would be an absolute bitch to invade The same can be said about USA. You don't need to send people to fuck someone over. >cruise missiles >naval blockades >strategic bombing You'd need a standing armed force to counter these threats. Besides, what can normal people accomplish with only small arms? They're used to kill people, but pretty much any decent army sends their air force to smooth things over before soldiers set their feet into a new territory. >To start with, the very act of invading would likely cause a crash in international economics, given that Ancapistan would be a huge tax haven and economic powerhouse. The same can be said about China, it's not a new achievement or anything like that. >Combine that with the fact that there would be a disproportionately high amount of heavily armed resistance, Not enough to stop an army, but definitely better than nothing. >likely be almost worthless (likely being a micro-state or seastead) and you end up with an anarchist society that is certainly conquerable, but has very few benefits to doing so. So it's not about spreading it into big countries? I'm actually fine with that.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1502151038 136534244,136543345,2017-08-08 00:12:57,">>136542775 I'm not going to fall for b8 but if it's not b8, and you genuinely believe a stateless society would work, you are a fucking retard and that is all I'm going to say on the subject because if you believe in that, you're too stupid to have a coherent argument with anyways.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502151177 136534244,136543586,2017-08-08 00:15:45,">>136543345 >but if it's not b8, and you genuinely believe a stateless society would work I believe the reverse is true, mainly on immigration. I don't think statelessness is logical or proven to work, especially if you disallow state border patrol/protection or the formation of a military. Capitalism is globalism and the abolition of the state and state borders in order to allow for maximum freedom for private business to trade as they please, without restriction. This means allowing labour and goods to pass without 'arbitrary borders, man'. Mass migration happening everywhere but your private borders is still white demographic displacement, paired with business siphoning brown 'slave' labour",,Anonymous,,,,,1502151345 136534244,136544802,2017-08-08 00:31:23,i just bump,,Anonymous,catgirls.png,TUUOMgb/zLHYqo0fvR9yYw==,GB,,1502152283 136534244,136544882,2017-08-08 00:32:27,Have any of you convinced any friends or family that the transition from monarchy to democracy wasn't beneficial?,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-07-03.45.41.jpg,ShZ04W5wS22f39An5GjVyQ==,US,,1502152347 136534244,136545026,2017-08-08 00:34:26,">>136543155 >So it's not about spreading it into big countries? I'm actually fine with that. Yeah, I think most honest Ancaps know that our ideology will never become a widespread phenomenon, we advocate for more libertarian economies in our own nation, and in the meantime we try to form our own little ancap utopias, whether through seasteading, spacesteading, microstates, agorism, etc.",,Anonymous,convoy.jpg,T5mJJgQRsiR183SPeEkvPg==,,,1502152466 136534244,136545814,2017-08-08 00:44:54,Paleo trio,,Anonymous,1501550807285.png,P+D+0O8FdidFrS8lH6Svrw==,US,,1502153094 136534244,136547087,2017-08-08 01:00:01,I'm not letting the fucking thread die yet,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-02.06.08.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,US,,1502154001 136534244,136547142,2017-08-08 01:00:43,Thoughts on making this an official symbol?,,Anonymous,1500003897055.jpg,k66PbQR1fuD1g7KS2wkNrQ==,,,1502154043 136534244,136547323,2017-08-08 01:03:12,">>136547142 I like it desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502154192 136534244,136547346,2017-08-08 01:03:34,">>136534244 >Libertarians acceptable >Nazis acceptable >Tankies unacceptable All y'all are politically correct. Stalin and Mao did nothing wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502154214 136534244,136547384,2017-08-08 01:03:58,">>136547142 Sounds good",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502154238 136534244,136547609,2017-08-08 01:06:54,">>136547346 >THE 100 MILLION IS A LIE. STALIN DID NOTHING WRONG",,Anonymous,,,,,1502154414 136534244,136547789,2017-08-08 01:09:18,">>136547609 >implying Mao didn't have the highscore last century.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502154558 136534244,136547808,2017-08-08 01:09:30,">>136547346 Communism has killed countless and is an ideology for weak people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502154570 136534244,136547815,2017-08-08 01:09:33,">>136547346 We've never claimed Nazis are acceptable. Most of us don't even want to ally with them pragmatically, since their goals are so antithetical to ours. Also, begone commie.",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-02-11.33.19.png,uhx5Jgw/x6B9Pp5s3Jo2EQ==,US,,1502154573 136534244,136547928,2017-08-08 01:11:13,"Why do you kosher sodomites keep shitting up my board with this cuckold tier (((ideology)))? You will be bred out and not a single non-white will adhere to anything you fucking pissants say.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502154673 136534244,136548226,2017-08-08 01:15:25,>>136547928,,Anonymous,1449840215714.jpg,ORJS4uZ7lAnPajmBghYnUg==,US,,1502154925 136534244,136548257,2017-08-08 01:15:48,">>136547789 MAO has the highscore. But stalin wasn't far behind",,Anonymous,,,,,1502154948 136534244,136548368,2017-08-08 01:17:10,">>136548226 >A yiddish cum guzzler",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502155030 136534244,136548441,2017-08-08 01:18:06,">>136547808 >implying getting the highscore is somehow bad >>136547815 >implying anyone gets offended by Nazis at this point >>136548257 Gulags>helicopters",,Anonymous,,,,,1502155086 136534244,136548518,2017-08-08 01:19:01,">>136547928 >not a single non-white will adhere to anything you fucking pissants say. All the more reason to talk.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502155141 136534244,136548792,2017-08-08 01:22:44,">>136548441 I didn't mean that. I simply meant we don't care for them. I never implied we got ""offended"" by them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502155364 136534244,136549059,2017-08-08 01:26:35,">>136548792 Nazis are cucks, nobody has a problem with them because they are weak and effeminate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502155595 136534244,136549107,2017-08-08 01:27:32,">>136534244 HA thats fucking golden god damn im glad i voted for Trump",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502155652 136534244,136549927,2017-08-08 01:39:03,,,Anonymous,1482709108988.jpg,oXu9j2MatcdU+8uZnKxvCA==,US,,1502156343 136534244,136550525,2017-08-08 01:47:22,I thought this was pretty funny,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-29-06.53.41.jpg,DG1m9aMeWRgPgDe3Rm7CZg==,US,,1502156842 136534244,136550678,2017-08-08 01:49:26,">>136536455 >2017 >believing in the political spectrum",,Anonymous,tIk35O3.png,ndsts5fQFo9TosYApJkmGQ==,,,1502156966 136534244,136552367,2017-08-08 02:13:11,">>136537666 >what is logic",,Anonymous,,,,,1502158391 136534244,136553542,2017-08-08 02:31:43,">>136535126 Quite Accurrate",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1502159503 136534244,136554013,2017-08-08 02:39:30,">>136540828 Your against communism but capitalism at the same time? You say nobody owns the lands, but want to protect your own property, if an ancap ""state"" existed wouldnt it need a leader?? And combining that with no property ownership wouldnt it just be a communism 2.0 rebranded?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1502159970 136534244,136555083,2017-08-08 02:54:53,">>136534244 >without a strong leader we would all become gay junkies blah blah blah it's funny because the opposite is true. nature is supposed to weed out the weak and the gay the and degenerate and the drug addicted. the only time you actually get a significant part of the population being those things is when you rely on government to control them, because what happens is you end up having these people in society just ""acting"" like they're not degenerate because the government is holding a gun to their head. so what happens? they live ""normal"" lives but they pass on their degeneracy to their children. then you have a whole generation of young people who are degenerate and fucking and passing on more degenerate genes. government sucks at EVERYTHING and especially fucking EUGENICS. you know what's fucking GREAT at eugenics? NATURE. nature is the ultimate eugenics. stop all of this faggot nazi shit /pol/ and stop trying to run to big papa government to fix all your problems. you want to throw a commie off a helicopter? cool. sounds fun. i'm with u bro. i want to throw them off too. you want to whine to the government to go do it? well then suddenly you become part of the problem. an original purge of all of the openly degenerate fucks is definitely a necessity. gotta get of the gays, the drug users, the commies, the blacks, the nonwhites. the race war is gonna have to happen and they're gonna have to be dealt with. but after that you can't let government run shit or you will eventually just run into the same problems over and over and over again because big government is what PUT humanity in this shitty situation :(",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502160893 136534244,136555185,2017-08-08 02:56:21,">>136535181 and the more kikery it has too, money fag. quit trying to put a fucking price on everygoddamnthing. your $$'s aren't fixing fukushima nor the tons of nuclear waste leaking into the water table as we speak. go fuckin' sell your whore daughters off already, crypto-kike lapdog shill.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502160981 136534244,136555935,2017-08-08 03:07:58,">>136554013 >You say nobody owns the lands, but want to protect your own property Every bit of property within Ancapistan would be privately owned. I simply said that the land itself would likely be worthless to a government entity looking to take it over by force, because Ancapistan would likely be a seastead or micro-state like Hong Kong, meaning there would be very few natural resources within the land. Instead, most wealth would be gained through importing raw materials and exporting finished products, along with Ancapistan functioning as a tax haven for many businesses. >if an ancap ""state"" existed wouldnt it need a leader No, the market would react to any needs that came along, if you need water, there's a company willing to be your utility for a price, if you need protection there's a company willing to patrol your neighborhood with police for a price, etc.",,Anonymous,1024px-Mike_Mullen_with_Chilean_honor_guard_in_Santiago_3-3-09.jpg,FyTjqT4xlNxv4jZem1hRKw==,,,1502161678 136587314,136587314,2017-08-08 11:24:37,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. DISCORD LINK: 7UcGBmn THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Open] [Open] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Open] [Open] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Open] [Open] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Open] [Open] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Open] [Open]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,IMG_0433.jpg,wNN9OHGr0vOsacFUlDZ9fQ==,,,1502191477 136587314,136587729,2017-08-08 11:29:26,,,Anonymous,1502157516318.png,GNbsj5itO8jQyj5dSy343w==,US,,1502191766 136587314,136587865,2017-08-08 11:30:49,">>136587314 >Libertarian General Those fat kids that boss their moms around have a general now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502191849 136587314,136588755,2017-08-08 11:41:09,Is the ban over? Test test,,Anonymous,moderate Islam.jpg,8i8SEWF7uubNOGEdQgnCVA==,PT,,1502192469 136587314,136588761,2017-08-08 11:41:16,Hoo boy cant wait to see all the intelligent discussions libertarians will be having,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1502192476 136587314,136588926,2017-08-08 11:43:07,">>136587314 >anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). >LIBERTARIAN This board getting exponentially more retarded as the days go on.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1502192587 136587314,136589068,2017-08-08 11:44:24,">>136587314 Foods that alter your poop's color. I'll start: Eat an entire bag of pic related, poop will be black. >inb4 American eating an entire bag of Oreos",,Anonymous,1495254992230.jpg,a3HGRqTzQKZorbiSJIF4YQ==,US,,1502192664 136587314,136589091,2017-08-08 11:44:42,">>136588761 Most likely none since it takes more than one intelligent side for meaningful argumentation to occur.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1502192682 136587314,136589813,2017-08-08 11:52:53,">>136587314 Bow to your masters! >> return to traditional, conservative values. Let's see, before Regan, even before Nixon you had property tax and high rate of tax on the very rich. So by returning to traditional values you wanna tax the rich more, have massive infrastruture project and ban investment banks while enforcing heavy market regulation?",,Anonymous,american libertarianism.jpg,l2Wq/QamM+z+uRfvhOq7Pw==,HR,,1502193173 136587314,136590146,2017-08-08 11:57:08,">>136589813 No, we mean a return to monarchy and private property natural order.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1502193428 136587314,136590325,2017-08-08 11:59:09,"Reminder that Anarcho-Capitalism is completely abstract so it can be argued with its full force without worrying about ""power level"" and yet achieves and imply everything /pol/ wants and that's why is the most heavily political idea subjected to subversion attack and shilling against.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1502193549 136587314,136590403,2017-08-08 12:00:06,">>136590146 >>No, we mean a return to monarchy and private property natural order.",,Anonymous,fuck this thread.webm,bp3GRn8+de0R9jqpVsF2Zg==,HR,,1502193606 136587314,136590552,2017-08-08 12:01:55,,,Anonymous,1500480495056.png,j/U9zXREXjeqJefcuu/RGg==,,,1502193715 136587314,136590581,2017-08-08 12:02:15,,,Anonymous,1501430963820.jpg,25kIyOhtfZh4SqvZrw1EYw==,,,1502193735 136587314,136590618,2017-08-08 12:02:37,,,Anonymous,1500341941578.png,LTWW152esapoYYMBJz1/1w==,,,1502193757 136587314,136590706,2017-08-08 12:03:46,">implying libertarians are right Vote green, folks. Together we can stop autism-causing vaccines, cancer-causing GMOs, and polluting Republicans.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502193826 136587314,136590715,2017-08-08 12:03:54,">>136587314 and why tha fuck is this woman in this general ? she is totally autoritarian when she thinks it is fine to have boarders.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1502193834 136587314,136590739,2017-08-08 12:04:18,,,Anonymous,1501096969627.jpg,FRzPdvGu6siaR+95QJqG0w==,,,1502193858 136587314,136590787,2017-08-08 12:04:53,">>136590715 >it is fine to have boarders But only for (((Israel))).",,Anonymous,1501096940297.jpg,bpR0m8kdjX1SUrXmrXJzeQ==,,,1502193893 136587314,136590805,2017-08-08 12:05:10,,,Anonymous,1501096922134.jpg,J+K+8FaZ9jXAlICnwq0MNQ==,,,1502193910 136587314,136590831,2017-08-08 12:05:35,Hey would you look at that. It's the obsessive who is desperate for attention.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502193935 136587314,136591055,2017-08-08 12:08:03,">>136590831 This. This dumb kike whore is starving for attention from her beta orbiters.",,Anonymous,1501096265786.jpg,hHnf6/v8n74clQ/pD4v8kg==,,,1502194083 136587314,136591100,2017-08-08 12:08:35,">>136587314 >kike >coalburner >civic nationalist get this degenerate off the board, faggot.",,Anonymous,(((Lauren Southern))).jpg,DOmK4AVaOzkECGSSyX3sQg==,,,1502194115 136587314,136591116,2017-08-08 12:08:45,">>136591055 I was talking about you. retard.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502194125 136587314,136591220,2017-08-08 12:10:05,">>136590552 >>136590581 >>136590618 >>136590787 >>136590805 >>136591055 calm down spergy boi",,Anonymous,,,,,1502194205 136587314,136591255,2017-08-08 12:10:31,">>136591100 >coalburner MAH SKIN Take that flag off, faggot. God has no color.",,Anonymous,ugly3.jpg,8iED9yRNWW08OCV5YyD7KA==,,,1502194231 136587314,136591323,2017-08-08 12:11:16,">>136591220 >>136591116 t. beta orbiters",,Anonymous,1501096195914.jpg,YQmqUMnAz/FacZGyBDtGQQ==,,,1502194276 136587314,136591340,2017-08-08 12:11:30,">>136591255 >no coal burner >>136590581",,Anonymous,,,,,1502194290 136587314,136591375,2017-08-08 12:11:57,">>136591323 >m-muh beta orbiter >muh eceleb >muh donation",,Anonymous,,,,,1502194317 136587314,136591431,2017-08-08 12:12:28,">>136591340 She is but that's least of her problems. There is nothing wrong with it on itself.",,Anonymous,1501096221412.jpg,TOuHqdJqdLo+fWDzwSfzbw==,,,1502194348 136587314,136591505,2017-08-08 12:13:23,Where's based Finnbro?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502194403 136587314,136592367,2017-08-08 12:23:07,"You are all clueless lowest common denominator type losers who orbit the shit out of equally clueless ideological e-celebrity leaders. How could you EVER think you're doing the right thing when this is the most accurate way of describing your ""movement""?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502194987 136610149,136610149,2017-08-08 15:43:37,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_lrg.png,Ax4FLg4PngGMKJwJomWgCQ==,GB,,1502207017 136610149,136610461,2017-08-08 15:46:21,">>136610149 bump. fuck commies and nazis",,Anonymous,,,,,1502207181 136610149,136610995,2017-08-08 15:51:01,">be communism general spics over a year ago >Shill for communism >Become laughing stock of /pol/ and effectively anti communist meme general >Be me >Create /lrg/ >Become epicenter of genuine political and philosophical debate on /pol/ Feels good to know we will always hate communism here and that /pol/ will become AnCap in 2 years, purge libertine subversives and bring a new era of liberty to the mainstream. Hail /lrg/ my friends.",,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1502207461 136610149,136611723,2017-08-08 15:57:51,,,Anonymous,1502210767740.jpg,Bhc2S+4a2wsVDLSrbpz7pA==,US,,1502207871 136610149,136612488,2017-08-08 16:04:54,"""socially liberal"" is a meme.",,Anonymous,socially_liberal.jpg,k/bOXQUNCCFq2SrxlXC1tQ==,US,,1502208294 136610149,136612600,2017-08-08 16:05:53,Totalitarianism is the end goal of every socialist state.,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1502208353 136610149,136612912,2017-08-08 16:08:42,"""natural order"" refers to the state of humanity before statism. Totalitarians, socialists, and national socialists can never be considered to be promoters of traditionalism, natural law or right wing ideologies.",,Anonymous,ORDER.png,6rFDv6/FV6AEc0JJOOJR+w==,US,,1502208522 136610149,136613070,2017-08-08 16:10:01,"Civil ""rights"" were a mistake. The only real rights are your right to life and property.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1502208601 136610149,136613312,2017-08-08 16:12:23,Forcibly opening the central state to all who seek to rape the land is a far greater aggression than excluding those people from the nation.,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1502208743 136610149,136613699,2017-08-08 16:15:59,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-06-12.24.19.png,hbCBkS+ZzS6+zWTBHiUW6g==,US,,1502208959 136610149,136613887,2017-08-08 16:17:38,">>136613699 This must be new, good one.",,Anonymous,AIRBOURNE_LEW.png,iYmwYP5NxWA/Gk3IB7qjaA==,US,,1502209058 136610149,136614308,2017-08-08 16:21:15,Reporting in for CHAD NATIONALISM!,,Slovakbro on Vacation,PicsArt_08-03-08.20.49.jpg,s0gPIFJ4FOcqKuS7ASE/Gg==,,,1502209275 136610149,136614891,2017-08-08 16:26:27,">>136614308 A I R B O U R N E L O C K E R 2 K 1 7",,Anonymous,osamancap.png,Yl4w1tH0enXOfROkuwU02A==,US,,1502209587 136610149,136615268,2017-08-08 16:29:59,I simply can't wrap my head around how ancaps are going to make companies do the sort of shit they expect them to without becoming slaves. Can someone explain?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502209799 136610149,136615481,2017-08-08 16:32:06,">>136615268 >ancaps are going to make companies do the sort of shit they expect them to It's called ""demand"", if someone wants something done and is willing to pay for it then a company will come in to fulfill that demand.",,Anonymous,nuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,,,1502209926 136610149,136615575,2017-08-08 16:32:55,"Don't be a classcuck by becoming a neo-feudalist 'an'cap. Read up on real libertarianism. Anarchism has always been about the elimination of coercive hierarchy and authority, and the two most prominent things in society that cause this are the state and capitalism. >Introduction to Anarchism https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf >The Anarchist FAQ http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA >Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism? http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF >Anarcho-'Capitalism' is impossible. https://c4ss.org/content/4043 >What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen >The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread >Markets not capitalism http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf",,Anonymous,1122345345546.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,,,1502209975 136610149,136615715,2017-08-08 16:34:14,">>136615575 >the freedom to exchange goods for services is actually a tool of coercion! You tried and failed",,Anonymous,,,,,1502210054 136610149,136616084,2017-08-08 16:37:35,">>136615575 Antifa pls go. You commies are the problem. You'll have to be physically removed.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1502210255 136610149,136616526,2017-08-08 16:41:48,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-04-10.31.21.jpg,Qstns/e3S4YP5W/vx3bzyA==,US,,1502210508 136610149,136616725,2017-08-08 16:43:42,anyone going to the PFS meeting next month?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1502210622 136610149,136617136,2017-08-08 16:47:33,">>136616725 I heard one or two in the group might be going.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502210853 136610149,136617341,2017-08-08 16:49:30,">>136615268 Freedom of competition. If you offer slavery, you'll lose to someone who doesn't. With that being said, some people will have to die first.",,Slovakbro on Vacation,,,,,1502210970 136610149,136617452,2017-08-08 16:49:49,">>136610149 Stalin and Mao did nothing wrong",,Anonymous,,,,,1502210989 136610149,136618133,2017-08-08 16:55:17,">>136617452 Stalin and Mao were state capitalists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502211317 136610149,136618564,2017-08-08 16:58:50,">>136618133 Aside from that",,Anonymous,,,,,1502211530 136610149,136619215,2017-08-08 17:03:41,">>136618133 'State Capitalism' is just a term you idiots coined to walk away scot-free from your idiotic experiments. It's like a doomsday preacher going on and stating that the End of Days will come on a different date, after a previous prediction, as usual, doesn't pan out.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502211821 136610149,136619698,2017-08-08 17:07:31,">>136618564 >>136618133 >>136617452 >state capitalism >Implying capitalism exists without the state. I agree. You commies are busted. Even when you try to create socialism you end up with shitty over regulated nationalized capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502212051 136610149,136620011,2017-08-08 17:10:18,"I'm trying to work my way through pic related but i can't find a pdf of ""against the state"" does anyone have a link?",,Anonymous,1501000639145.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,DE,,1502212218 136610149,136620647,2017-08-08 17:16:08,">>136610149 3 most important values that helped emerge a capitalistic system: >Thrift >Investing >Time management These 3 values need a set of institution in order for a country to flourish and generate wealth. Countries with these values and no institutions will fail. Countries without these values but with these institutions will fail. read: http://classes.maxwell.syr.edu/hst347/bellculturalcontradictions.pdf Thank me later.",,Anonymous,1472230012406.jpg,JFkUoSNArqjVzjeuy2gYgQ==,BO,,1502212568 136610149,136620771,2017-08-08 17:17:10,">>136619215 >means of production owned by the state >wage labor, production for exchange and currency still exist. >bosses are replaced by bureaucrats.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502212630 136610149,136620838,2017-08-08 17:17:46,"I'm currently reading Anarchy, State and Utopia. What are your thoughts on the book fellow libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1502212666 136610149,136620865,2017-08-08 17:17:56,">>136617452 >>136618133 >>136618564 You guys remind me of pic related. It's always funny to see socialists argue with each other about what is and and isn't ""real socialism"".",,Anonymous,statism.png,2nZh5Yp6OOvTj9su9rqMpQ==,,,1502212676 136610149,136620879,2017-08-08 17:18:02,">>136620647 number 2 please",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502212682 136610149,136621398,2017-08-08 17:22:42,">>136620647 #2 and #3",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1502212962 136610149,136621764,2017-08-08 17:25:58,">>136610149 How do Ancaps prevent the formation of cosmopolitan international banking secret societies like the round table group?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502213158 136610149,136622486,2017-08-08 17:32:13,"Have any of you convinced friends or family of the prefarability of anarcho-capitalism over the state, or that the transition from monarchy to democracy was not beneficial for humanity?",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-07-03.45.41.jpg,ShZ04W5wS22f39An5GjVyQ==,US,,1502213533 136610149,136622598,2017-08-08 17:33:10,">>136622486 I have a friend who's almost there. He just needs to let go of his love for democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502213590 136610149,136622779,2017-08-08 17:34:28,">>136621764 Ending the Federal Reserve, courts of arbitration recognising fractional reserve banking as fraud, among other things.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502213668 136610149,136623266,2017-08-08 17:38:46,"You can stop worrying about thinking, it's been irrefutably proven just a few hours ago that ancap is the way",,Anonymous,1484632361048.png,dOIMZn2QvudOM1avSsZ8lw==,,,1502213926 136610149,136623290,2017-08-08 17:39:00,"I'm reading Hoppe's DTGTF and I could use a little help with some terminology. I get Time Preference, but I could use some clarification what Hoppe means when he refers to the Rate of Time Preference and Time Preference Schedule.",,Anonymous,1485543899905.png,kYKLrB4Ci5HakCY0P6x1qg==,US,,1502213940 136610149,136623935,2017-08-08 17:44:17,">>136623266 Confirmed, the sixes are consecutive",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502214257 136610149,136624712,2017-08-08 17:51:04,">>136610149 A libertarian society could work, but no shitskins or kikes >> But Muh Murrays and Friedmans Yeah most are not like them, they're outliers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502214664 136610149,136624913,2017-08-08 17:52:53,">>136624712 Which would happen on it's own as people disassociate from the groups they do not feel comfortable living with. It's been shown many times that trust is nearly twice as high among ethnic groups than it is among multicultural ones. If society is allowed to naturally develop without a state apparatus to force integration, then you will undoubtedly see ethnic communities or very limited integration (probably the Murray's and Friedmans only)",,Anonymous,,,,,1502214773 136610149,136625346,2017-08-08 17:56:29,">>136623290 Think of it like a supply curve. In fact, your time preference schedule kind of is your supply curve for time. It would slope upward. The more the payoff, the longer you're willing to wait for it. The higher the ""price"" for your waiting, the more waiting you're willing to ""sell."" Quantity supplied = point on line. Supply curve = line itself. Likewise Rate of time preference = point on line. Time preference schedule = line itself.",,Anonymous,1500336531683.jpg,XYJyoD9s79ajcpV5DXlVHQ==,US,,1502214989 136610149,136625691,2017-08-08 17:59:29,">>136624712 Who says I'm against racial segregation and secession?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502215169 136610149,136625820,2017-08-08 18:00:28,">>136610149 How can we incorporate more based black guys into our based movement, my fellow based liberty lovers?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502215228 136610149,136626024,2017-08-08 18:02:11,">>136625820 when they stop being niggers",,Anonymous,,,,,1502215331 136610149,136626164,2017-08-08 18:03:23,">>136625346 Gotcha, so an individual's time preference schedule refers to their expectation of good received given time ""spent.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502215403 136610149,136626376,2017-08-08 18:05:06,"So I'm a firm believer in capitalism, nationalism, and liberty but I've got a question. Why is it that many think democracy is incompatible with a libertarian society? I understand the idea that people can use democracy as a means of legitimizing wanting to steal from those richer than them, but out of all other forms of government I'm well read on I fail to see how any other is better suited for preventing abuse by the state. It's a flawed system but I fail to see what is better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502215506 136610149,136626793,2017-08-08 18:08:51,">>136626024 they do that because of welfare and liberals are the real racist... you statist.. unbased of you",,Anonymous,,,,,1502215731 136610149,136626932,2017-08-08 18:10:04,">>136626376 most people would argue that democracy is a tyranny of the masses and is incompatible with absolute liberty like that proposed in a libertarian society. Additionally, what people would call a ""democracy"" in the case of non direct democracies aren't actually legitimate, the people simply democratically elect ruler representative",,Anonymous,,,,,1502215804 136610149,136627027,2017-08-08 18:10:49,">>136625820 If they are free to succeed than those that are capable of success with succeed while the incapable niggers will die off due to lack of welfare.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502215849 136610149,136627775,2017-08-08 18:17:04,">>136626376 Under democracy, as opposed to monarchy, leaders are temporary caretakers, rather than proprietors, in regards to the government. As such, they tend not to care about the future value of the government, instead taxing as much as they can, and spending as much as they wish, since it's not their money, and going further into debt they will never have to repay. HHH explains it better than me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502216224 136610149,136629656,2017-08-08 18:32:52,">>136625820 when they say ""discrimination is totally cool and property rights trump feefees, it is a priori certain"" >>136626164 precisely Speaking of time preference, starting pic related now. Book explains class structure in terms of future-orientation vs. present orientation. First heard of it in footnote to DTGTF.",,Anonymous,9780316080132-us-300.jpg,wtvHAoAEAtuww8OF2K4TmA==,US,,1502217172 136652148,136652148,2017-08-08 22:01:49,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. DISCORD LINK: 7UcGBmn THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Open] [Open] [Open] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ [Open] [Open] [Open] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Open] [Open] [Open] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Open] [Open] [Open] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Open] [Open] [Open]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,IMG_0993.jpg,wVaHUJ4y6qP9V4+oFJONRw==,,,1502229709 136652148,136652357,2017-08-08 22:03:40,"Libertarianism, despite being the most moral of the ideologies, also manages to be the only ideology that relies on pure statistics rather the vague ideas and spooks about what ""should be"".",,Anonymous,freedom.jpg,gw3yPUmv4Sye7QRPFQSqnw==,,,1502229820 136652148,136652560,2017-08-08 22:05:51,">discord Fucking statist get out REEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,,,1502229951 136652148,136653903,2017-08-08 22:19:45,Are there any seasteads that look like they might get off the ground anytime soon?,,Anonymous,ancap.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1502230785 136652148,136654082,2017-08-08 22:21:35,"You guys should check out Reactionary Liberty: The Libertarian Counter-Revolution by Robert Taylor. For me it's been a fantastic introduction to Libertarianism and it accurately expresses all the basic ideas in a easy to understand way. I'm reading it now before I move over to Democracy: The God That Failed. For newbies it's a pretty good prepper",,Anonymous,1477900443980.png,mgbRTr0nN/t3HC2BMHi0nQ==,,,1502230895 136652148,136654165,2017-08-08 22:22:15,It's been a fun day.,,Anonymous,1480452907125.jpg,pgYaoLbNVMLkvfCedsoA0w==,,,1502230935 136652148,136655861,2017-08-08 22:39:31,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-07-03.45.41.jpg,ShZ04W5wS22f39An5GjVyQ==,US,,1502231971 136652148,136655947,2017-08-08 22:40:30,"Jesus Christ OP fix up your game man >[Open] [Open] [Open] (Watch this!) Also the Discord is fucking garbage",,Anonymous,,,,,1502232030 136652148,136656698,2017-08-08 22:47:58,"This thread was made just to get people into that shitty discord. The discord link is to a ""slightly right leaning shitpost general"" and this thread was only made to get more people into their faggot discord. Sage goes in all fields",,Anonymous,,,,,1502232478 136652148,136656918,2017-08-08 22:50:25,">>136653903 Seasteading is such a meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502232625 136652148,136657066,2017-08-08 22:52:09,">>136656698 The threads have been around for a long time before the discord.",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-02.02.35.jpg,QDfv/Oa8CgUpzMvzx3EG8g==,US,,1502232729 136652148,136657599,2017-08-08 22:57:57,"Once you realize that nobody is going to act perfectly moral in the absence of enforcement, you realize you need someone to enforce the rules. Upon realizing that, you realize your enforcers have to be stronger than those who would break the rules. Upon realizing that, you realize libertarianism will never work because there will always be some goddamned fuck trying to take over and you need some even stronger goddamned fucks to stop him, and some other, even stronger goddamned fucks to keep your enforcers in check.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502233077 136652148,136657987,2017-08-08 23:02:16,">>136657066 I know, but this thread was posted just to get people into this new discord that hasn't been a part of /lrg/ before Sage",,Anonymous,,,,,1502233336 136652148,136658100,2017-08-08 23:03:39,">>136657599 You should read Democracy: The God that Failed. It perfectly describes why you're wrong in more ways than I possibly can",,Anonymous,,,,,1502233419 136652148,136658124,2017-08-08 23:04:01,"I see, will sage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502233441 136652148,136658360,2017-08-08 23:06:42,">>136658100 Oh, sure. Strip away the laws, rules, and regulations and everyone suddenly holds hands and sings kumbayah in utopian bliss. Bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502233602 136652148,136658491,2017-08-08 23:08:15,">>136658360 You should read that book. It can explain things far better than I can currently",,Anonymous,,,,,1502233695 136652148,136659488,2017-08-08 23:18:56,">>136658491 It's a delusional pipe dream. All forms of libertarianism degenerates into despotism, one way or another. There is no good solutions to the problem with libertarianism. People will always seek to exploit or otherwise screw others over. So you will always need enforcers and checks on them and on and on until the libertarian ideal is gone. Either that or you let everything devolve into despotism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502234336 136652148,136659638,2017-08-08 23:20:23,">>136659488 You should read that book by Hoppe, he explains Libertarianism in a way that I simply can't",,Anonymous,,,,,1502234423 136652148,136660068,2017-08-08 23:24:43,">>136658100 >>136658491 >>136659638 Please stop responding to the shill.",,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1502234683 136652148,136660810,2017-08-08 23:32:38,">>136659638 Just read the cliff notes. The whole idea of an egalitarian natural order is bullshit. There's no egalitarianism in natural order. The only natural order that exists is the one master / many slaves relationship where most people are nothing more than property. All other orders are derived from authoritarianism - he who has the military might enforces whatever social order he desires. But all such forms of enlightened governance comes only from unchallenged authority. Those conquered don't have a choice in the social order imposed on them. They either accept it or die. So much for your libertarian utopia. A mere sacrifice on the altar of naked ambition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502235158 136652148,136660987,2017-08-08 23:34:42,">>136660068 Shill for what, dumbass? I don't believe you know what that word means.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502235282 136652148,136661174,2017-08-08 23:36:51,">>136660810 You should read the actual book. It explains how the society would work far better than I can",,Anonymous,,,,,1502235411 136652148,136661535,2017-08-08 23:40:18,">>136661174 No libertarian society would work, and the author fails to account for human nature. It's natural for people to beat down and enslave others. Therefore, you always need enforcement to prevent that. Therefore, you will always need greater force than they can muster. Therefore, you will always end up with some form of authoritrianism - be it via enforcers or via despots. There is no way around it. People don't suddenly become morally enlightened creature simply by taking all the rules away.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502235618 136652148,136661642,2017-08-08 23:41:21,">>136661535 You should really read the book. I can't explain AnCap the same way Hoppe can",,Anonymous,,,,,1502235681 136652148,136661772,2017-08-08 23:42:41,">>136661642 If you can't explain it, then you don't really understand it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502235761 136652148,136661871,2017-08-08 23:43:52,">>136661772 You should read. It's a much better description of ancap than what you'll get here",,Anonymous,,,,,1502235832 136652148,136663686,2017-08-09 00:04:08,,,Anonymous,20170809000321_glitch.jpg,Xzo+I4hRcRKWEkKzVFLNmA==,US,,1502237048 136652148,136664157,2017-08-09 00:09:24,">>136661871 Why would I bother reading an argument I already know is fundamentally flawed?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502237364 136652148,136664482,2017-08-09 00:13:13,">>136652148 threadly reminder that the free market will eventually make waifus real",,Anonymous,hello this is snek.gif,5zjKkbGIFRyPSgUUi7n8wg==,,,1502237593 136652148,136665643,2017-08-09 00:26:42,">>136664482 Of course it would, there's a huge demand for them right now. The man who makes waifus real will be richer than any other man who's ever lived.",,Anonymous,catgirl.png,TUUOMgb/zLHYqo0fvR9yYw==,,,1502238402 136652148,136666764,2017-08-09 00:40:09,"Does anyone here actually agree with the Founding Fathers? >All WHITE MEN were created equal >Voting limited to land owning men >Laws restricting free expression on grounds of obscenity >Expectation that freedom was only fit for a religious and moral people",,Anonymous,washington.jpg,mzdtfA01cMSdOd+5MjX5jg==,US,,1502239209 137043750,137043750,2017-08-12 03:05:51,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. Useful resource for literature: http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-30-11.14.07.jpg,VDivy1FVaeZqWBBIlkMQRQ==,US,,1502507151 137043750,137044429,2017-08-12 03:14:19,">>137043750 The white nationalists and national socialists seem to be having a good night tonight. When does lrg get something like this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502507659 137043750,137044485,2017-08-12 03:14:58,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-11-04.01.15.png,F1G2ogUzvJaN3iyz4EI77w==,US,,1502507698 137043750,137044577,2017-08-12 03:16:03,">>137044429 We had this pretty recently",,Anonymous,1501619109851.png,atwX1fP1BDi25KOkUwbq2w==,US,,1502507763 137043750,137045181,2017-08-12 03:23:54,">>137043750 >>137044429 >>137044577 >>137044485 Alliance until we win against the Left - and then civil war. Capitalism will not cuck us again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502508234 137043750,137045204,2017-08-12 03:24:12,,,Anonymous,Vaporwave1.502410334965E12-1.png,X7HPq1XmSTkxSwJ9LV7S1w==,US,,1502508252 137043750,137046123,2017-08-12 03:36:32,">>137045181 Sounds like a plan",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-11-03.51.02.jpg,qL3TgcZhdmxXUq5PDajSdQ==,US,,1502508992 137043750,137048191,2017-08-12 04:06:45,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-02.06.08.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,US,,1502510805 137043750,137048801,2017-08-12 04:14:51,"What is your take on this proposal? http://archive.is/DBL8e Police defend controversial protest law in court This is done so that 'unlawful gatherings' do not destroy property. ""Pillay said that the purpose of giving a notice of intention to protest was to ensure that proper planning is done, that gatherings are managed in an orderly manner with minimal disruption, and that any risk of violence is mitigated to the greatest possible extent. It also allows for the proper deployment of police resources."" For context, protests has been part and parcel here for decades now. However, clashes between protesters and police are commonplace. The majority of protests are over service delivery by the government. The aftermath of the protests usually result in a lot of local businesses vandalized/looted, or if its on the border of a highway, the roads are blocked off with burning tires. What would a libertarian solution to this be? I'd say in short shift over to privatize service delivery. However, considering the dependency on welfare, that would hardly be feasible. Should businesses allow for greater private security, or hand over more jurisdiction to the police to protect them. The latter case extends to highways, which disrupts business and travel between cities. Or in short, is this all a ploy by the state to give itself more authority to stamp out dissidents?",,Anonymous,police vs protesters.jpg,EeKdlmxw/B4q8UY1NK+Yfw==,ZA,,1502511291 137043750,137049665,2017-08-12 04:27:04,">>137044429 Keep calling out the Nazis on their economics. It's where they are weak. They're all basically just white nationalists in favor of government gibs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502512024 137043750,137049864,2017-08-12 04:30:14,">>137044429 Most of us completely support what's going on right now. We promote the growth of European people and a revival of European values. Where do you think libertarianism came from? Asia? Africa?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502512214 137043750,137049989,2017-08-12 04:32:17,">>137044577 Lol I was hoping there would be some sort of interaction between Hoppe and the alt-right",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502512337 137043750,137050035,2017-08-12 04:33:02,"Guys. Im a southern Blue blood. Communist hate me and ""natsocs"" want to coop me. I just want everyone to fuck off and leave me alone. what do?",,Anonymous,Robert_Edward_Lee.jpg,R+LApAaN6y8UW7ZUcXmBKg==,US,,1502512382 137043750,137050128,2017-08-12 04:34:18,">>137050035 Acquire weapons",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502512458 137043750,137050319,2017-08-12 04:37:15,">>137049665 Not that there is anything wrong with white nationalism per se.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502512635 137043750,137050445,2017-08-12 04:39:15,">>137043750 Serious question, why does Hoppe hate Jews and Americans? Anyone feel like this is a staple for mainland euros, for them to hate jews and americans whether they are ancaps or leftists?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502512755 137043750,137050637,2017-08-12 04:42:16,">>137050445 >Hoppe hates Jews >Hoppe hates Americans >Europeans hate Jews",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502512936 137043750,137050933,2017-08-12 04:46:38,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1499246472582.jpg,cz8DlYOS1n+apY1jeyJzmg==,NL,,1502513198 137043750,137051038,2017-08-12 04:48:02,">>137050933 In economics the left vs right spectrum is literally just socialism vs capitalism. Don't be retarded",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502513282 137043750,137051200,2017-08-12 04:50:28,">>137051038 >making up your ow left vs right spectrum to appear right wing",,Anonymous,1500429973745.jpg,zesLRqpnILwkNvlTrV1fnw==,NL,,1502513428 137043750,137051318,2017-08-12 04:52:10,">>137051200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum According to the simplest left–right axis, communism and socialism are usually regarded internationally as being on the left, opposite conservatism and capitalism on the right.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502513530 137043750,137051385,2017-08-12 04:53:20,">>137050933 >>137051200 how about you say what you think it is instead of acting like an attention whore",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502513600 137043750,137051436,2017-08-12 04:54:02,">>137049665 This.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502513642 137043750,137051597,2017-08-12 04:56:26,">>137051318 >>137051385 left=revolutionary, right=reactionary. Anarcho capitalism is revolutionary, same as socialism, syndicalism etc. etc.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1502513786 137043750,137051700,2017-08-12 04:57:54,">>137045181 >Alliance With ""National"" Socialists? You realise they are just a conservative reactionary version of the left with a burning desire to create ""white nation"" that would essentially be the EU with better external borders? It's your funeral.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502513874 137043750,137051710,2017-08-12 04:58:00,Why don't libertarians just call themselves gay weed commandos,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502513880 137043750,137051987,2017-08-12 05:02:18,"fuck you swine we won't be debt slaves anymore ((your)) time is coming to an end",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502514138 137043750,137052122,2017-08-12 05:04:43,">>137051710 Terrible idea. You should be ashamed. >>137051987 >Implying libertarians want a Central Bank.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502514283 137043750,137052215,2017-08-12 05:06:12,">>137052122 centralization is irrelevant, capitalism itself is inherently flawed and has led the white race to its knees you need to go",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502514372 137043750,137052267,2017-08-12 05:06:57,Can we just be propertarians now famalam? It seems comfy and less autistic yet even more autistic.,,Anonymous,1502514590152m.jpg,gzxWEjwSak9gh1ArdvLAig==,US,,1502514417 137043750,137052322,2017-08-12 05:07:49,,,Anonymous,1502526694952.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,CA,,1502514469 137043750,137052672,2017-08-12 05:13:13,">>137051597 You are fucking retarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1502514793 137043750,137052702,2017-08-12 05:13:36,"Constitutional Republican that subscribes to the Austrian School of Economics here. What am I? Would I be a libertarian? If so, is there a specific name for me?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502514816 137043750,137052833,2017-08-12 05:15:29,">>137052702 a cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502514929 137189475,137189475,2017-08-12 23:31:38,"Just a reminder that individuality, liberty, and justice is the way forward.",Libertarian Right General /LRG/ - Prosperity Edition,Anonymous,1499895416887.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1502580698 137318077,137318077,2017-08-13 18:49:27,remove socialists edition,libertarian right general - /lrg/,Anonymous,1502660716894[1].png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,,,1502650167 137318077,137318337,2017-08-13 18:51:42,">>137318077 ""my political education does not extend beyond discord chat rooms and youtube""",,Anonymous,Hitler Socialism.jpg,nWe/OJhoDE/nhnvDLWZQjw==,US,,1502650302 137318077,137318981,2017-08-13 18:57:01,Only countries with privatized water can post in this thread,,Anonymous,,,CL,,1502650621 137320304,137320304,2017-08-13 19:07:37,"Join our fucking discord edition This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3 REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_fiery.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,GB,,1502651257 137320304,137321288,2017-08-13 19:14:42,">>137320304 free minds and free markets. how can you be aganst open borders?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502651682 137320304,137321967,2017-08-13 19:19:59,">>137321288 https://mises.org/library/nations-consent-decomposing-nation-state-0 A de facto open borders policy represents a centralisation of state power (it implies they have the right to set the border policy). In fact, an anarcho-capitalist society comprised of a patchwork of private property would be closed by default.",,Anonymous,open_borders.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,GB,,1502651999 137320304,137322873,2017-08-13 19:27:02,">>137321288 On the basis of property rights. In Ancapistan, there is no public property, and the issue of borders is resolved as property rights. In the real world, we have public property. Public property belongs only to those who pay taxes to occupy and/or use it. Going to another country illegally and occupying/using that country's public property without paying for them constitutes theft and abuse of another's property. TL;DR Open borders permit violation of the NAP.",,Anonymous,20731329_1768552086508034_852882791_n.jpg,MHYDZudwSuMOB884rXVOfg==,,,1502652422 137320304,137323619,2017-08-13 19:33:14,HAIL /LRG/,,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,,,1502652794 137320304,137323699,2017-08-13 19:33:50,https://youtu.be/JVkkLDAm8I4,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502652830 137320304,137323947,2017-08-13 19:35:58,">>137323619 Made some more of these",,Anonymous,Objectivism.png,SeZMqfoB+WWqTVTfmW9esw==,,,1502652958 137320304,137323984,2017-08-13 19:36:16,>>137323947,,Anonymous,Fascism.png,4mHKBVaVSFPIDbN1c2ySPw==,,,1502652976 137320304,137324041,2017-08-13 19:36:35,>>137323984,,Anonymous,Feminism.png,M527CVlZYKlnAffeH5UesA==,,,1502652995 137320304,137324108,2017-08-13 19:37:07,>>137324041,,Anonymous,Monetarism.png,wm5HR8dkyEHo3vWYtzi6ug==,,,1502653027 137320304,137325909,2017-08-13 19:50:04,">>137323947 >>137323984 >>137324041 >>137324108 I love it, I love the elitism of it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502653804 137320304,137326367,2017-08-13 19:53:11,,,Anonymous,raico - cheka execution.png,dJOxurPlbbEnUvnvA8663Q==,,,1502653991 137320304,137326768,2017-08-13 19:56:24,,,Anonymous,frenandez - an army of ideologue.png,AyjQyUnsoIGhTBYw3dlpBA==,,,1502654184 137320304,137326825,2017-08-13 19:56:48,"I just finished economics in one lesson and it was a fun and interesring ridd Any other books that focus on economic aspect of libertarianism?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1502654208 137320304,137327450,2017-08-13 20:01:20,">>137326825 Eminently readable. It's not a book of economic theory but rather an history of economic thought. There's no need to read it from cover to cover the first time around. You can pick up various section and read them independently of the others if you so wish and there will be little problems.",,Anonymous,An Austrian Perspective on the History of Economic Thought_Rothbard.jpg,9sDIdVozRuxRo3f8N1qQyA==,,,1502654480 137320304,137328697,2017-08-13 20:10:12,">>137326825 Man, Economy & State (+Power and Market) I would assume",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502655012 137320304,137330022,2017-08-13 20:20:11,">>137328697 That's pretty heavy. Since he's already read a book of (popular) theory, I wouldn't recommend a second one right away.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502655611 137320304,137330836,2017-08-13 20:25:56,">>137326825 Tom Woods can explain almost all of Austrian Economic theory in 25 minutes in a way almost anyone could understand. I felt like an idiot for reading a textbook when this guy could cover it so well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIVNXxgPz3A",,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1502655956 137320304,137330937,2017-08-13 20:26:37,Discord link is broken,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502655997 137320304,137333329,2017-08-13 20:45:01,"What's your response to the falling rate of profit? I've heard commies talk about this alot, but the only sources for information on it are communist websites, which obviously are biased as heck.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502657101 137320304,137335514,2017-08-13 21:01:34,">>137333329 What's the context of this argument? The rate of profit is bound to fall in any industry which is open for competition, and is not an evil in and of itself. However, there are two elements which prevents the rate of profit from going to zero. First, as Mises emphasized, only in the ""evenly rotating economy"" would the rate of profit go to zero. The evenly rotating economy is one in which >people's value scale, their time preference level, the technology available to actors, the amount of resources, is fixed. The economy then tends to be ""evenly rotating"", i.e., the same activities tend to be repeated in the same pattern over and over again - Man, economy and state, Chapter 5 section 2 This means that, in order for the rate of profit to fall to zero, people's value scale would have to remain constant, which is simply never the case in practice. Rather, people's value scale continually shift so that the rate of profit in various sector fluctuates and thus market participant have to shift resources from the less profitable uses to the more profitable ones. The second element, also mentioned in the ERE construct, is that of technology. It is here bizarre that the marxists will insist that technological innovation, i.e. changes in the material structure of production, should on the one hand propel history but on the other hand should not counteract the alleged falling rate of profit. If new technology are brought into the world, then it will also means new opportunity for market participants to offer goods and services that had never been offered on the market before, and with them to bring a fresh round of resource re-allocations in the system brought about by a rising rate of profit. So I don't see why the profit rate should tend, globally, toward zero, though it may for a while in certain well established industries.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502658094 137320304,137337309,2017-08-13 21:15:56,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1502658956 137320304,137337763,2017-08-13 21:19:53,">>137330937 /mvnKbdX",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502659193 137320304,137338003,2017-08-13 21:21:49,can someone tell me how a libertarian can like Pinochet? Libertarianism and fascism are polar opposites,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502659309 137320304,137338117,2017-08-13 21:22:43,">>137338003 Pinochet wasn't a fascist",,Anonymous,,,,,1502659363 137320304,137338144,2017-08-13 21:22:57,You guys suck. Your ideology involves people abusing capital in order to make money while exploiting others of their fruits of labour.,,Anonymous,Marxlove.jpg,tb5TFwdA6jXCCds6zN8RPw==,,,1502659377 137320304,137338206,2017-08-13 21:23:31,">>137338144 There is no such thing as 'theft of surplus labour value' because value exists independent from labour.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502659411 137320304,137338396,2017-08-13 21:25:05,">>137338206 doesn't mean labour isn't void of value and that workers can be exploited of that value",,Anonymous,,,,,1502659505 137320304,137338471,2017-08-13 21:25:46,">>137337763 Still doesn't work... I'll just try another time.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502659546 137320304,137338593,2017-08-13 21:26:45,">>137338396 But it does. You'll find in fact that 'surplus labour' amounts simply as interest as a reflection of time-preference amongst capitalist and worker.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502659605 137320304,137338685,2017-08-13 21:27:29,">>137338471 What's your discord tag? I'll send it to you",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502659649 137320304,137338695,2017-08-13 21:27:31,">>137338144 Exploitation is a spook. Goods and capital has no inherent value, thus I cannot exploit anyone.",,Anonymous,tread.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,,,1502659651 137320304,137340005,2017-08-13 21:38:23,">>137338396 How is the worker exploited?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502660303 137320304,137342131,2017-08-13 21:56:00,>when you try to convince the peasant that socialism is good,,Anonymous,conquest - the peasant and the intellectuals.png,nB3jxPQdflf3F3g8wUa3jQ==,,,1502661360 137486592,137486592,2017-08-14 20:19:26,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: mvnKbdX REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_picarda.png,5wgXPt6u7wPa1RvYUXb/2A==,GB,,1502741966 137486592,137486745,2017-08-14 20:20:34,">>137486592 Chicago>Austrian Fight me",,Anonymous,1480825910687.jpg,f8kCjQRArPA9P2XxXc6zWw==,US,,1502742034 137486592,137486868,2017-08-14 20:21:26,">>137486592 Who here /PaleoLibertarian/ ?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742086 137486592,137486907,2017-08-14 20:21:44,>>137486868,,Anonymous,Paleo-Libertarian.jpg,rqhnofPH4uKhVbZ1wRqPYw==,US,,1502742104 137486592,137486975,2017-08-14 20:22:04,">>137486592 eternal reminder before we inevitably get strawmanned into supposedly supporting open borders or other bullshit by (((left-libertarians)))",,Anonymous,1489063397341.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1502742124 137486592,137487056,2017-08-14 20:22:44,"pretty sad that you didn't include any book about economy and the monetary system in there, the theory of credit and money by mises is fine though doesn't strictly cover modern central bank policies",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1502742164 137486592,137487085,2017-08-14 20:22:50,Bumpcoin added.,,Anonymous,,,,,1502742170 137486592,137487095,2017-08-14 20:22:54,xth for space dildos,,Anonymous,636153189178700932-XXX-XXX-IMG-BLUE-ORIGIN-ROCKET-1-1-NDD8BGQM-86126698.jpg,fokN9r2L56GQk7gkFYXlWw==,US,,1502742174 137486592,137487103,2017-08-14 20:22:58,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1502742178 137486592,137487108,2017-08-14 20:22:59,">>137486907 >Paleo mascot is a extinct type of elephant As a Paleo, this is very fitting sadly. We kinda need a new symbol.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742179 137486592,137487205,2017-08-14 20:23:37,">>137486745 >trusting the government with anything Not even once",,Anonymous,american.png,F2p2VdUSuqZv57XHDMNnkQ==,,,1502742217 137486592,137487272,2017-08-14 20:24:09,">>137486745 Even though he was a jew, Milton Friedman was right about monetary policy. Austrians were wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502742249 137486592,137487355,2017-08-14 20:24:36,,,Anonymous,1501468058560.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1502742276 137486592,137487380,2017-08-14 20:24:50,>>137487103,,Anonymous,1483161604398.png,HRoNF/YavNeFnX4g73BZpA==,US,,1502742290 137486592,137487410,2017-08-14 20:24:59,,,Anonymous,1501467891001.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1502742299 137486592,137487457,2017-08-14 20:25:20,">>137486868 almost all of us. >>137486745 chicago school is globalist left libertarian bullshit. Muh ""free"" markets make us MORE equal!",,Anonymous,,,,,1502742320 137486592,137487480,2017-08-14 20:25:29,">>137486745 Wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742329 137486592,137487509,2017-08-14 20:25:40,"How can you be """"""libertarian"""""" if you don't support freedom for each and every individual?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502742340 137486592,137487616,2017-08-14 20:26:20,">>137487509 but... that's what we do. you're an anarcho-collectivist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742380 137486592,137487622,2017-08-14 20:26:20,,,Anonymous,1501915370620.jpg,lFt4WGJMoU8UEuhrwhFcDw==,US,,1502742380 137486592,137487626,2017-08-14 20:26:26,"THE WEST MUST BE SAVED! RESTORE YOUR PRIDE, RESTORE YOUR CULTURE!! STATES RIGHTS!! https://youtu.be/hCIc5ymZai4 [Open] CUT EPA!! CUT DEP OF ED!! MAGA",,Anonymous,image.jpg,evUwqhdFbOMYo8atfg7x7Q==,US,,1502742386 137486592,137487671,2017-08-14 20:26:47,,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1502742407 137486592,137487691,2017-08-14 20:26:51,">>137487457 Austrians like Jeffrey Cucker make this argument all the time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502742411 137486592,137487729,2017-08-14 20:27:04,>>137487410,,Anonymous,The_Hoppean.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,,,1502742424 137486592,137487913,2017-08-14 20:28:11,">>137487205 Sowell, a chicago economists doesn't trust the government with anything. He just believes if the government is gonna intervene, and it was ran by an all benevolent being, there are beneficial things it could do. It's just not humanly possible. >>137487457 Neither Sowell or Friedman believed in an complete open border society. Especially if there is some form of welfare.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742491 137486592,137487924,2017-08-14 20:28:13,">>137487616 ssshhh their doublethinked version of freedom is slavery, Orwell would be proud",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742493 137486592,137487950,2017-08-14 20:28:19,">>137487616 you mean freedom for some individual (((business owners))) to deprive everyone else of freedom",,Anonymous,,,,,1502742499 137486592,137488120,2017-08-14 20:29:36,,,Anonymous,roth1.png,On5npUUusYuzH40XSK+NDQ==,US,,1502742576 137486592,137488122,2017-08-14 20:29:38,">>137487950 No one can force you to do business with a business owner.",,Anonymous,miia.png,UsJjROxjGUMBKto9/xrofg==,,,1502742578 137486592,137488204,2017-08-14 20:30:11,">>137487691 he's sold his soul to leftism, he used to trash lincoln but now he's a social justice fag, just like chicago school kiddos are today. Real austrians are Mises, Rothbard, and Hoppe. tucker is irrelevant, him and the libertarian party are the anti thesis of /lrg/ and real libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502742611 137486592,137488205,2017-08-14 20:30:09,,,Anonymous,roth2.png,Fk/fsfGDFiY0e8jJ32JIPg==,US,,1502742609 137486592,137488250,2017-08-14 20:30:29,,,Anonymous,roth3.png,MFFIlCapYsr6/4A1PG8iog==,US,,1502742629 137486592,137488268,2017-08-14 20:30:37,">>137487380 What a shit introduction to libertarian ideas",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742637 137486592,137488475,2017-08-14 20:31:53,">>137488204 > You have absolutely no idea what the difference is between chicago and austrian is, do you? News flash: both sides have open border cucks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742713 137486592,137488509,2017-08-14 20:32:04,the government shouldn't be able to prevent me from finding the cheapest source of labor anywhere in the world and importing it so i can defeat my competitors or at least force them to start doing the same just to compete with me,,Anonymous,,,,,1502742724 137486592,137488585,2017-08-14 20:32:31,">>137488268 could you suggest some improvements",,Anonymous,4A9NpVB.png,G8buLiSEcP+vpg/WfIJ5uQ==,,,1502742751 137486592,137488657,2017-08-14 20:33:02,">>137488268 Fuck you, how? it's for all those people that always make bullshit claims or ask dumb questions in the presence of an anarcho-capitalist, like about how corporations would just take over. It's about anarcho-capitalism IN EFFECT specifically.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742782 137486592,137488972,2017-08-14 20:35:06,">>137488509 Keep it on your property buddy. If one dirty mexican crosses into my land for a second you're getting tomahawk missile'd so hard you'll be begging the state to come and save you.",,Anonymous,AnarchistGadsden.png,YB/46et2ZZC+7S0LzOEFsA==,,,1502742906 137486592,137489666,2017-08-14 20:39:56,">>137488268 Don't criticize unless it's constructive. Provide an alternative.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502743196 137486592,137489695,2017-08-14 20:40:12,">>137488972 ill be wealthier than you because nationalism wont hold me back, i hold no loyalty other than to myself and my money/power",,Anonymous,,,,,1502743212 137486592,137489907,2017-08-14 20:41:35,">>137489695 I'll be wealthier than you because the people would rather trust a man with loyalty and connection to his people rather than a sociopath that only cares about money.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502743295 137486592,137489950,2017-08-14 20:41:56,">>137488122 unless all property is owned by business owners then you can't not agree to their terms if you can't physically leave",,Anonymous,,,,,1502743316 137486592,137490080,2017-08-14 20:42:52,">>137489950 So buy your own property then.",,Anonymous,tractor.jpg,1kwcEGy/PKRtzAezjF5S5w==,,,1502743372 137486592,137490261,2017-08-14 20:44:00,">>137489907 but if you're wrong then the world descends into a sociopath controlled world",,Anonymous,,,,,1502743440 137486592,137490264,2017-08-14 20:44:01,">>137490080 but what if I'm born on property where the property owner won't pay me enough to leave",,Anonymous,,,,,1502743441 137486592,137490400,2017-08-14 20:44:58,">>137490264 >born on property And you think this gives you power?",,Anonymous,bane.jpg,Fz3iSGKth6EvlEMzpgAhuQ==,US,,1502743498 137486592,137490459,2017-08-14 20:45:19,"Imo, libertarians should be in favor of gradualism and not advocate for anarcho-capitalism publically. Anarcho-capitalism is too extreme for your average person and counterproductive to the ideological conversion process as we stand now. The end goal should be achieving a freer society and something like a Ron Paul republic is much more of an achievable goal in the short run. Minarchism too is more digestible idea than ancap. We should always maintain that the state is needed for society to function until we have finally come to a minarchist society. Once we have reached that point and only then should anyone call for anarchy.",,Anonymous,1501482822349.gif,504XpU497Yg1uwlHGrSDlQ==,US,,1502743519 137486592,137490509,2017-08-14 20:45:37,">>137490400 no I think it gives me no power since the property owner has it all and thus stolen your liberty",,Anonymous,,,,,1502743537 137486592,137490523,2017-08-14 20:45:42,">>137490264 Legs cost nothing to use, just walk out of his property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502743542 137486592,137490615,2017-08-14 20:46:22,">>137487380 This is fake and gay. Minarchism is the true path. Ancap societies descend into feudalism.",,Anonymous,1499905873436.jpg,mzDsIyxu5DlC2tbCWyQVNQ==,,,1502743582 137486592,137490633,2017-08-14 20:46:31,">>137490523 what if the business owns the whole city? the whole continent? what if they don't let people leave?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502743591 137486592,137490691,2017-08-14 20:46:53,">>137490459 >AnCap is too radical >stormfags are literally going full 1488 wut? >Ron Paul republic Agreed. >gradual dissolution of the state Ok fine you're not a faggot, here's your (you)",,Anonymous,1496440515601.gif,jFhCaZx6Dy/hN78cZzs2QQ==,US,,1502743613 137486592,137490896,2017-08-14 20:48:14,">>137490633 >What if they don't let people leave That's a state. Are you retarded?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502743694 137486592,137490919,2017-08-14 20:48:22,">>137490633 >what if the business owns the whole city? Walk out. >the whole continent? Walk to the shore then take a boat. Or swim. >what if they don't let people leave? Then they have violated the NAP and you can McNuke them.",,Anonymous,nuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,,,1502743702 137486592,137490928,2017-08-14 20:48:26,">>137490261 >sociopath controlled world That is the case right now in the real world, but it is not due to voluntary association. its because sociopaths use coercion and violence to gain power. you're still getting tomahawk'd btw.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502743706 137486592,137490947,2017-08-14 20:48:33,">>137488509 The problem is that there are a multitude of currencies being manipulated by governments in their own favor, various levels of standards of living and economic freedom, state subsidies to certain companies and counter trade restrictions that complicate the whole process.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502743713 137486592,137490983,2017-08-14 20:48:46,">>137490080 The snek cannot comprehend the commons the snek is just a monarchist that wants to hit the reset button",,Anonymous,commonvsstateprop.jpg,2HUhFgaPW/aBdZC7xmFcDg==,US,,1502743726 137486592,137491092,2017-08-14 20:49:25,Website should be in OP,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502743765 137486592,137491181,2017-08-14 20:49:54,">>137490983 Monarchy wasn't all that bad, the biggest problem was the serfdom, which would violate the NAP in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,statue.gif,Td0EkfxX7UUZZeAS2MapHQ==,,,1502743794 137486592,137491185,2017-08-14 20:49:56,">>137491092 What website?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502743796 137486592,137491203,2017-08-14 20:50:03,">>137490896 >That's a state OH REALLY?? >Then they have violated the NAP and you can McNuke them. and if you were not allowed to earn enough to afford a mcnuke by said business owner?",,Anonymous,20228763_317359702046913_7122534830125376672_n.jpg,AYFN9yhBCAfJoAA+xEweHg==,,,1502743803 137486592,137491217,2017-08-14 20:50:10,">>137490691 Would you agree that your average person is more in favor of having a state rather than anarchy? Would you agree converting people to our cause if of vital importance?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502743810 137486592,137491360,2017-08-14 20:51:04,">>137490509 >>137490633 Here we go. >the property owner has all the power This is a mischaracterization. The property owner owns the property, not necessarily everything on it, especially people. You are 100% entitled to your body and labor, including the freedom to leave said property without payment, assuming you haven't collected anything of material value. >the business owns everything Monopoly is pretty frowned upon by AnCaps and libertarians. >he doesn't let people leave That's a violation of the NAP and due process, and he would be liable for damages including lost wages. Since you're a worthless gommie, he stands nothing to gain from keeping you on his property, especially when faced with the risks of doing so.",,Anonymous,makishima2.gif,r0VGgkDaevPy0p2vSm4FDQ==,US,,1502743864 137486592,137491414,2017-08-14 20:51:24,,,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,,,1502743884 137486592,137491776,2017-08-14 20:53:43,"Honestly lads, what can be done about antifa? After the inbred retard drive his car into a bunch and swing the media reaction, it seems as though we'll suffer a thousand year Antifa reich",,Anonymous,IMG_1732.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,,,1502744023 137486592,137491781,2017-08-14 20:53:44,">>137491217 >average person more in favor of state than anarchy I would add the caveat ""for now"", but sure. >converting people to our cause is important 100% agreed. We are not stormfags. We understand how the market of public opinion works. We will adapt to the times and we will persuade and bribe people to our side, because we are smart and economical.",,Anonymous,karen_biz.png,H7gaBWPx7A7SOWHKz2Q7ZA==,US,,1502744024 137486592,137491805,2017-08-14 20:53:56,">>137491181 the snek claims to see liberty but is blinded to it by rothbardian perversions of natural rights",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1502744036 137486592,137491875,2017-08-14 20:54:23,">>137490459 Not to mention it creates unnecessary division between libertarians when we should be united with a firm message.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744063 137486592,137492026,2017-08-14 20:55:30,">>137491776 Give it a week and wait for Lauren Southern and Sargoy to say #notallwhites and we'll be right as rain, and this time no nazis to cause problems.",,Anonymous,1496177990870.gif,VljG3Q5Lb73AwD++FJLMHw==,US,,1502744130 137486592,137492037,2017-08-14 20:55:37,">>137491781 That's what I am saying, don't really abandon ancap completely. Just keep it on the ideological backburner until we actually start moving in the right direction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744137 137486592,137492072,2017-08-14 20:55:49,">>137487950 A business owner selling goods in exchange for capital isn't depriving anyone of freedom. Violent trade unions and syndicates that coerce innocent workers into cooperation, on the other hand, most certainly deprive everyone else of freedom.",,Anonymous,ancap bird.png,GV8cJqYI+PQ8K3WD7f35kw==,,,1502744149 137486592,137492074,2017-08-14 20:55:49,">>137491805 Self-ownership is what forms the core of the snek ideology. Heck, it even says so in the pic you posted.",,Anonymous,eu4.png,hUDnT+V5uMip0Vf8NprSig==,,,1502744149 137486592,137492342,2017-08-14 20:57:36,,,Anonymous,uwot.jpg,GqidAh+nxnPlzsofFduw6Q==,GB,,1502744256 137486592,137492398,2017-08-14 20:58:00,">>137491185 Libertarianright.org",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744280 137486592,137492441,2017-08-14 20:58:16,"whites need to go extinct so we can have a globalized , free market",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744296 137486592,137492447,2017-08-14 20:58:19,"capitalism is simply the greatest system, if only there weren't jews, then we'd have capitalism without sex in media, political correctness, immigration, and women workers",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744299 137486592,137492485,2017-08-14 20:58:38,">>137486592 political compass",,Anonymous,political compass weapons of choice.jpg,JhrzWdZVEGQVPKFRTm3qhQ==,,,1502744318 137486592,137492498,2017-08-14 20:58:43,">>137492026 But antifa have actual martyrs now, somehow they've become the good guys. Then again they've always been depicted as peaceful ""anti racists"" well yeah mate but there Also marxists",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744323 137486592,137492525,2017-08-14 20:58:52,">>137492398 its dead, we cant get to the guy who hosts it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744332 137486592,137492580,2017-08-14 20:59:14,">>137491776 Let them kill each other. If it really gets that bad, I wouldn't be opposed to a revitalized Free State Project in which we move into a sparsely populated state and secede.",,Anonymous,1493740657728.jpg,Awc39JL0ihp/weXQjbcJow==,,,1502744354 137486592,137492612,2017-08-14 20:59:26,">>137486592 I use to be a natsoc but I'm thinking about switching over. Will you guys take me?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744366 137486592,137492616,2017-08-14 20:59:30,">>137492441 fuck off you cosmopolitan trash.",,Anonymous,DontBait.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,,,1502744370 137486592,137492715,2017-08-14 21:00:11,">>137492074 yes but snek stops short of its logical conclusion and embraces the royal privilege of state granted land titles and forgets that the land was given by god not any mans labor. Land is not capital is a unique factor of production and in granting land titles to the few you have violated those natural rights",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744411 137486592,137492804,2017-08-14 21:00:54,boys we're fighting a war on all sides now. Whats the plan?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744454 137486592,137492825,2017-08-14 21:01:01,">>137492616 no you fuck off borders are bad for trade",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744461 137486592,137492884,2017-08-14 21:01:29,">>137492804 evolve",,Anonymous,marxandfriedmanonthesamepage.jpg,jQcX/dlW8Ly0ZxJ3JYAGYg==,US,,1502744489 137486592,137492889,2017-08-14 21:01:31,">>137492612 I think we would welcome everyone as long as you value freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744491 137486592,137492907,2017-08-14 21:01:37,">>137488509 We're going to have a problem when your Indian buddies gang rape someone.",,Slovakbro back home,,,,,1502744497 137486592,137492972,2017-08-14 21:02:01,>>137492825,,Anonymous,1486768386433.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,,,1502744521 137486592,137493114,2017-08-14 21:03:12,">>137492972 the whole world is capitalist, no reason to limit capital with borders you commie",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744592 137486592,137493178,2017-08-14 21:03:36,"If you wish to know the differences between the libertarian schools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V3RlJdIXVY&ab_channel=TheAcademicAgent Ignore the tone, the presenter is obviously against Rothbard austrian thinking but he does a good job summing everything up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744616 137486592,137493215,2017-08-14 21:03:50,">>137490459 We're not globalists.",,Slovakbro back home,,,,,1502744630 137486592,137493336,2017-08-14 21:04:34,">>137493215 Ancaps are",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744674 137486592,137493351,2017-08-14 21:04:39,">>137492972 >hans hoppe >the same shill that ran away when questioned how borders would be enforced without taxation",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744679 137486592,137493372,2017-08-14 21:04:46,">>137491776 Checked, buy cryptos and stop participating in the debt economy.",,Anonymous,nsokakmrn69z.jpg,TTW1ldB+q2Od8a81KneHsA==,AU,,1502744686 137486592,137493376,2017-08-14 21:04:49,">>137492715 God gave us families and the mentality to work to make our children's lives better than our own. To take away that incentive, to steal away a man's work that should rightfully be handed down to his children in favor of redistributing it to strangers is unnatural and goes against the way God designed things.",,Anonymous,faction.png,Q1Q63SFMiopj7yaVdZ2Hyg==,,,1502744689 137486592,137493428,2017-08-14 21:05:11,">>137492441 Whites are the primary defenders of civilization, liberty and property. We must never go extinct if the human race wants to take the next step in our evolution.",,Anonymous,1502611612961.jpg,2iAzGjt0joM+CJkRTDHrQA==,US,,1502744711 137486592,137493519,2017-08-14 21:05:43,">>137493215 yes we are, the nation state is useless delegate control to contracts in WTO capital doesn't give a shit, let it go",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744743 137486592,137493568,2017-08-14 21:05:59,">>137493351 Idiotic storm fags would patrol borders free of charge",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744759 137486592,137493611,2017-08-14 21:06:15,">>137493114 >>137493351",,Anonymous,1486768605778.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,,,1502744775 137486592,137493662,2017-08-14 21:06:35,">>137493215 I agree. Did something I said lead you to think otherwise?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744795 137486592,137493783,2017-08-14 21:07:29,">>137493428 who gives a shit asians and indians are usually more industrious and smarter than whites who are these ""defenders"" sounds like spooks",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744849 137486592,137493816,2017-08-14 21:07:41,Wtf you guys hate pol now? Every yellow plack or snek flag I see is condemning NatSoc. I understand muf freedom. But werent you guys freinds two days ago?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502744861 137486592,137493973,2017-08-14 21:08:43,">>137493816 i was just pretending, but since charlotsville I sense the tide is turned so I dont need to pretend anymore",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744923 137486592,137494012,2017-08-14 21:09:02,">>137493611 I don't give a shit about ""civilized"" as long as the courts work then shut the fuck up spookman",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744942 137486592,137494043,2017-08-14 21:09:17,">>137493351 imbecilic twat, hoppe is a favourite among anarcho capitalists. The fact that you think theres only one guy here supports him means you are a noob in ancap and probably on /pol/ Second, there is no national border dumb fuck. Everything becomes a border enforced by the owners of the property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744957 137486592,137494093,2017-08-14 21:09:40,">>137493816 >U S E F U L I D I O T S",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744980 137486592,137494156,2017-08-14 21:10:05,">>137493816 We just have a lot of the same enemies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745005 137486592,137494186,2017-08-14 21:10:20,">>137493376 I see no reason to steal man made property and find that notion abhorrent im simply advocating that all taxation should be based on the value of land and nothing else. No taxes on capital gains, no taxes on income, no taxes on property improvements. Tax land not man and fuck every sort of unearned rentier income that robs man of the bounty good put beneath him",,Anonymous,landright.jpg,P3JWnRXzb8WQ+N/Nqfa0sg==,US,,1502745020 137486592,137494265,2017-08-14 21:10:51,">>137493973 Ok. Yellow balcks now hate NatSoc. ... And say you snek? NatSoc is hated now?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502745051 137486592,137494311,2017-08-14 21:11:08,">>137486592 Can I still shoot communists or do they have to shoot me first?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502745068 137486592,137494402,2017-08-14 21:11:41,">>137493816 Fascism is an authoritarian, statist, collectivist ideology. We were never friends. Visit any of their threads and we were always there, torpedoing their stupid economics and their mentally ill Fuhrer.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745101 137486592,137494418,2017-08-14 21:11:46,">>137493816 /pol/ used to be a place that classical liberals, libertarians and political cynics regularly BTFO storm weenies and commies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745106 137486592,137494493,2017-08-14 21:12:20,">>137493611 lol what a raving old man. "" physically removed """,,Anonymous,,,,,1502745140 137486592,137494496,2017-08-14 21:12:21,">>137494186 I downloaded Progress and Poverty this morning. What am I in for, geo-anon? >>137494311 By virtue of their beliefs, communists are in constant violation of the NAP and can therefore be shot at any time in self-defense.",,Anonymous,1501888895391.jpg,0OWign27FNoOxUrefqPwGQ==,,,1502745141 137486592,137494514,2017-08-14 21:12:26,">>137494311 as long as he doesn't do anything illegal, no, you can make mad dosh on commie merch dude WIN WIN",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745146 137486592,137494516,2017-08-14 21:12:27,">>137494311 Commies still get to subvert your culture I think in yellow black land.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502745147 137486592,137494520,2017-08-14 21:12:28,">>137494311 Always act in self-defense. It makes you the victim and victimhood plays big in the ideological arena right now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745148 137486592,137494538,2017-08-14 21:12:33,">>137494311 The existance of a group which want your downfall and hope to see your end could be seen as a violation of the NAP",,Anonymous,IMG_1665.jpg,FSLk9Xe6FFvLV3ZCtLFDxg==,,,1502745153 137486592,137494621,2017-08-14 21:13:06,">>137493816 anti authoritarians like libs and ancaps would never actually be friends with them- at the time, the left was just yelling at nazis and white nationalists and libertarians all at the same time so the unanimous defense makes it look like they're all pals. they're not though. they're incompatible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745186 137486592,137494665,2017-08-14 21:13:23,">>137493816 Youre new arent you? /pol/ was originally a right libertarian board. There was always shit flining though between the libertarians and stormfront.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745203 137486592,137494708,2017-08-14 21:13:42,"we need to invade this nazi thread and force them to realize how retarded they are >>>/gif/11099721",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745222 137486592,137494716,2017-08-14 21:13:46,">>137494402 Fascism is more libertarian friendly. Take Pinochet for example. National socialism with its massive nanny state is not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745226 137486592,137494796,2017-08-14 21:14:15,"can't wait for a Hoppean-computer to be uplinked to the workers in my corporation and see if they get any commie thoughts or criticize the concept of property i'll just throw them out of the window",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745255 137486592,137494830,2017-08-14 21:14:27,">>137494621 You can be incompatible and still freinds. Divided we all fall.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502745267 137486592,137494891,2017-08-14 21:14:53,">>137486592 Not enough of these, sadly, it's all nu/pol/ nowadays.",,Anonymous,1487015907485.gif,fGrwVTp0wgkT8iPDSVkCVQ==,,,1502745293 137486592,137494926,2017-08-14 21:15:04,">>137494716 Except Pinochet wasn't fascism, retard. Just because there's an autocrat doesn't make it national socialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745304 137486592,137494930,2017-08-14 21:15:04,">>137494496 i can give you a basic gestalt if you will; 3 or 4 posts >Georgeism reconciles common land rights with private tenure, free markets and modern capitalism. >Those who got the upper hand by securing land tenures would support public services, so wages and commerce and capital formation could go untaxed. >To pay the taxes, landowners would have to use the land by hiring workers (or selling to owner-operators and owner-residents). This would raise demand for labor; labor, through consumption, would raise demand for final products. >To pay the workers, landowners would have to produce and sell goods, hereby raising supply and precluding inflation. Needed capital would come to their aid by virtue of its being untaxed. Thus, George would cut the Gordian knot of modern dilemma-bound economics by raising demand, raising supply, raising incentives, improving equity, freeing up the market, supporting government, fostering capital formation, and paying public debts, all in one simple stroke. >George's proposal enables us to lower taxes on labor without raising taxes on capital. Indeed, it lets us lower taxes on both labor and capital at once, and without reducing public revenues.",,Anonymous,game-design-3-638.jpg,aFcFBJvxgU7NP2S7iy2Ijw==,US,,1502745304 137486592,137495021,2017-08-14 21:15:41,">>137494930 > Georgist tax policy reconciles equity and efficiency. Taxing land is progressive because the ownership of land is so highly concentrated among the most wealthy,'8 and because the tax may not be shifted. It is efficient because it is neutral among rival land-use options: the tax is fixed, regardless of land use. This is one favourable point on which many modern economists actually agree, although they keep struggling against it > Georgist tax policy contains urban sprawl, and its heavy associated costs, without overriding market decisions or consumer preferences, simply by making the market work better. land values are the product of demand for location; they are marked by continuity in space. That shows quite simply that people demand compact settlement and centrality. A well-oiled land market will give it to them. > Georgist tax policy creates jobs without inflation, and without deficits. ""Fiscal stimulus,"" in the shallow modern usage, is a euphemism for running deficits, often with funny money. George's proposed land tax might be called, rather, ""true fiscal stimulus"". It stimulates demand for labor by promoting employment; it precludes inflation as the labor produces goods to match the new demand. It precludes deficits because it raises revenue. That is its peculiar reconciliatory genius: it stimulates private work and investment in the very process of raising revenue. It is the only tax of any serious revenue potential that does not bear down on and suppress production and exchange. As I have noted, George's fiscal policy takes two problems and composes them into one solution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745341 137486592,137495150,2017-08-14 21:16:33,There are things I like about NatSoc and things I Like about Free Market. Is their a mixed ideology. NatCap or aomething c4ingy like that?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502745393 137486592,137495153,2017-08-14 21:16:34,">>137494891 wow sexy girl, is her services for sale mayhaps? gibe me de pussy",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745394 137486592,137495198,2017-08-14 21:16:50,">>137495021 > George's land tax lets a polity attract people and capital en masse, without diluting its resource base. This is by virtue of synergy, the ultimate rationale for Chamber-of-Commerce boosterism. Urban economists like William Alonso have illustrated the power of such synergy by showing that bigger cities have more land value per head than smaller ones. (Land value is the resource base of a city.) Urbanists like Jane Jacobs and Holly Whyte have written on the intimate details of how this works on the streets. Julian Simon (The Ultimate Resource) philosophizes on the power of creative thought generated when people associate freely and closely in large numbers. Henry George made the same points in 1879 >Georgist policies encourage the conservation of ecology and environment while also making jobs, by abating sprawl. It is a matter of focusing human activity on the good lands, thus meeting demands there and relieving the pressure to invade lands that are now wild and marginal for human needs. Sprawl in the urban environment is the kind most publicized, but there is analogous sprawl in agriculture, forestry, mining, recreation and other land uses and industries. >Georgist policies strengthen public revenues while in the same process promoting economy in government. Anti-governmentalists often identify any tax policy with public extravagance. Georgist tax policy, on the contrary, saves public funds in many ways. By facilitating the creation of jobs it lowers welfare costs, unemployment compensation, doles, aid to families with dependent children and all that. It lowers jail and police costs, and all the enormous private expenditures, precautions, and deprivations now taken to guard against theft and other crime. Idle hands are not just wasted, they steal and destroy this was all taken from Mason Gaffeny and can be found here if you want to read more http://www.masongaffney.org/publications/K1Neo-classical_Stratagem.CV.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745410 137486592,137495220,2017-08-14 21:16:59,">>137495150 the state is a crime against the free market",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745419 137486592,137495261,2017-08-14 21:17:15,">>137495150 Socialism and free markets do not mix. As soon as you implement a single socialist policy, the market is no longer free.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745435 137486592,137495301,2017-08-14 21:17:33,">>137495150 That's literally just conservatism",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745453 137486592,137495334,2017-08-14 21:17:43,">>137494926 Yeah I guess that's true, it was more a military junta.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745463 137486592,137495368,2017-08-14 21:18:01,">>137487509 Anarcho-Cuckunist's are nothing but a plethora of useful idiots vying to create a fascist state. All collectivists get the helicopter.",,Anonymous,71991a17aee10aea9b2a2a7dba25d9ec.jpg,37R0xWWOnKkAecWNhT+IPA==,,,1502745481 137486592,137495486,2017-08-14 21:18:43,">>137495368 nigga, can my corporation fly the choppers?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745523 137486592,137495530,2017-08-14 21:18:57,">>137495153 I think it's a character from a cartoon, not sure. I got the .gif from another user here on 4chan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745537 137486592,137495553,2017-08-14 21:19:07,">>137495486 My corporation will build the copters",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745547 137486592,137495555,2017-08-14 21:19:08,">>137495150 it's ideal to mix the world since not only do national borders present a barrier to the flowing of capital- but it intersects with race. Any end game libertarian must realize that race alongside nations must be dismantled.",,Adolf Hitler,,,,,1502745548 137486592,137495691,2017-08-14 21:19:50,">>137495553 but I will license them",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745590 137486592,137495774,2017-08-14 21:20:27,">>137492525 I'm on a trip in the USA and don't really have Internet access or time to fix it. I'll be back in here in three weeks or so and update / hand it over then. Sorry guys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745627 137486592,137495840,2017-08-14 21:20:58,">>137495220 >>137495261 I believe in social welfare and government hand ups I believe Healthcare is a basic right I believe in property I believe in contracts I believe democracy is degenerate and is now a tool of destruction What am I. I thought I was alt right. But thats spencers crew",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502745658 137486592,137495931,2017-08-14 21:21:43,">>137495555 >Any end game libertarian must realize that race alongside nations must be dismantled. Nope. It is expected that some people will keep their race and their culture / nation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745703 137486592,137495951,2017-08-14 21:21:48,">>137495555 This, personally I would suggest taking as many genetic samples of every diverse population. Than you could use this in the future to let parents design their children.",,Anonymous,1501270031211.gif,X+s19OB+79ufc99VXlakFA==,,,1502745708 137486592,137495991,2017-08-14 21:22:01,">>137495840 You're a modern liberal Democrat. Healthcare is literally not a basic right and there's no philosophical basis for such a stupid and inane belief.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745721 137486592,137496065,2017-08-14 21:22:29,">>137495840 let the corporations run everything, your employer will be your state and healthcare there you go",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745749 137486592,137496159,2017-08-14 21:23:03,">>137495931 its a spook from the times of Kings and Queens dumbo",,Anonymous,,,,,1502745783 137486592,137496214,2017-08-14 21:23:20,">>137495840 Obviously you're nat soc. http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1502668921028.webm",,Adolf Hitler,Hitler 19.jpg,W11vTlQYqaBNvPxknSPjZg==,CA,,1502745800 137486592,137496261,2017-08-14 21:23:41,">>137495991 I live in sk. Have had single payer health care all my life. Wouldn't want it any other way.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502745821 137486592,137496264,2017-08-14 21:23:41,"New article on Lewrockwell talking about Google and how it's not really a ""private"" company. GOOGLE: Conceived, Funded and Directed By The CIA https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/08/no_author/conceived-funded-directed-cia/",,Anonymous,Google.png,0lfp/wKIdcN66lSAjM/N/Q==,US,,1502745821 137486592,137496371,2017-08-14 21:24:24,We need more AnCap/Snek memes. There's simply not enough.,,Anonymous,1485532965713.png,38OMH9Z7vuPCZK99AC0lWw==,,,1502745864 137486592,137496402,2017-08-14 21:24:33,">>137496214 Ok. Thanks. I am a NatSoc and that seems to be a problem to pol now",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502745873 137486592,137496473,2017-08-14 21:25:02,">>137496261 Incredibly immoral and literally theft/slavery. Hopefully someday you'll learn the error in that belief.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745902 137486592,137496819,2017-08-14 21:27:14,>>137496371,,Anonymous,immigrants.jpg,ab7c8dFlduOHIfy5Nn2Q8w==,,,1502746034 137486592,137496896,2017-08-14 21:27:40,">>137496261 How do you feel about the state subsidizing the unhealthy lifestyle choices of its citizens?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502746060 137486592,137496919,2017-08-14 21:27:48,">>137496402 Well it isn't. There's simply a back lash because of the mentally ill person driving their car into a crowd of people. I've personally been emboldened because it's a situation that has helped us see who is truly with us- and who isn't. At least to some degree.",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1502746068 137486592,137497000,2017-08-14 21:28:22,">>137496473 Yes. Taxes equal theft slavery. Doesnt change the fact that their needs to be an anti-up so their is a bit in the pot for when everyone gets a shitty hand.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502746102 137486592,137497096,2017-08-14 21:29:00,">>137496264 Is that why there are some many useful idiots and communists working there? Does that mean they've seen all of the weird porn I look at!!??",,Anonymous,1499978727469.jpg,XmUZHLqRNle82m3QrqKdsw==,,,1502746140 137486592,137497101,2017-08-14 21:29:06,">>137495840 The state gives out welfare and healthcare, while private property and contracts are permitted? Democracy is obsolete? Sounds like a form of technocracy. I have a friend like you, he's a Platonian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746146 137486592,137497361,2017-08-14 21:30:55,">>137496896 Thats a tough one, but its like worrying about people allowed to insure a car with shitty tires. It happens but in large people generally avoid risk.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502746255 137486592,137497531,2017-08-14 21:32:00,">>137497101 I liked the sound of technocracy in my younger years, but I don't see it happening. My only political concern also tend to be centered around America, which is why I push for Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746320 137486592,137497571,2017-08-14 21:32:13,">>137497101 Yes. People voting in puppets to speak for them is destroying what our grandparwnts built.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502746333 137486592,137497705,2017-08-14 21:33:11,">>137496159 My man, I'm not here to tell you what is or is not a spook, I'm here to tell you hipity hoppity, I'll keep my race on my property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746391 137486592,137497795,2017-08-14 21:33:44,">>137497571 http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1502668994935.webm",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1502746424 137486592,137497833,2017-08-14 21:33:56,">>137497571 Any form of voting should be strictly public referendums voting on specific changes to governance.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502746436 137486592,137497955,2017-08-14 21:34:49,">>137497795 Do I get more viruses if I click it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502746489 137486592,137497973,2017-08-14 21:34:56,ARE WE BEING ATTACKED?,,Anonymous,AM I BEING ATTACKED.png,biY3Sv/x+56IBIph6uCCaA==,,,1502746496 137486592,137498210,2017-08-14 21:36:24,>>137497795,,Anonymous,1500911443962.jpg,afbnbLO9AW86ZTH3XNz0Uw==,,,1502746584 137486592,137498233,2017-08-14 21:36:30,">>137497955 That is 4 chans own video linking system but here is a more trustworthy type of link >>>/gif/11099757",,Adolf Hitler,,,CA,,1502746590 137486592,137498557,2017-08-14 21:38:35,">>137498233 It always puts the videos on max fucking volume",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746715 137486592,137498759,2017-08-14 21:39:57,IN,,Anonymous,,,,,1502746797 137486592,137499043,2017-08-14 21:41:57,Could a snek nation and a yellow black nation and a Natsoc nation be allies?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502746917 137486592,137499210,2017-08-14 21:43:04,"Instead of ""Unite the Right"", we need to Unite the Libertarians. Chicago fags, Hayek Cucks, and Rothbard idealists should honestly fighting to uncuck the Libertarian party.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502746984 137486592,137499411,2017-08-14 21:44:30,Dumping a few images for future use,,Anonymous,1501145229883.jpg,ywyiUDzQeNg2IFrjpem1AQ==,,,1502747070 137486592,137499489,2017-08-14 21:45:00,>>137499411,,Anonymous,0205fb6c897a208871d4b1e440a43f9e--patriotic-tattoos-gadsden-flag.jpg,O4CezsaQSrfycHSl4PsKMA==,,,1502747100 137486592,137499611,2017-08-14 21:45:44,">>137499043 Yeah. But Libertarian don't like to entangle themselves in foreign alliance. Commerce is the way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502747144 137486592,137499664,2017-08-14 21:46:05,>>137499489,,Anonymous,1500946789500.png,RsiXGOygnoisZaZwT1aorw==,,,1502747165 137486592,137499943,2017-08-14 21:48:05,>>137499664,,Anonymous,1500953314835.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,,,1502747285 137486592,137500008,2017-08-14 21:48:34,">>137487913 Like what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747314 137486592,137500335,2017-08-14 21:50:53,">>137486592 I'm pretty new Libertarian What books besides those in the OP would be good?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502747453 137486592,137500396,2017-08-14 21:51:16,"Bump for liberty And congrats to everyone for $4,300 bitcoin today! Many of us are rich! Lets put this newfound wealth in to build this movement. I seriously believe that we can be the third bloc of people to prevail after the Antifa and National Socialist types fight in the cities. We will hold the countryside, let them burn out, then hold the productive and free lands of our nations in order to restore liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747476 137486592,137500426,2017-08-14 21:51:27,">>137497361 Cigarette use, alcohol use, unhealthy eating, and lack of exercise are rare?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747487 137486592,137500623,2017-08-14 21:52:58,>>137499210,,Adolf Hitler,libertarians nk.jpg,XpJcag0gbnMSWXg2Ux8RGw==,CA,,1502747578 137486592,137500985,2017-08-14 21:55:27,Anybody know of our guy Anthony de Jasay?,,Anonymous,the state.jpg,Pa2Q1kdsGk0LQbe16ft0fw==,,,1502747727 137486592,137501163,2017-08-14 21:56:43,">>137486592 Bump, best flag for the eternal anglo imo",,Anonymous,1280px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png,Lt0gBn+v2lYPie7Mc9XWYQ==,,,1502747803 137486592,137501268,2017-08-14 21:57:25,">>137486592 It's always a good time to learn Austrian Economics.",,Anonymous,quote-the-fact-is-that-under-a-capitalistic-system-the-ultimate-bosses-are-the-consumers-the-ludwig-von-mises-60-2-0258.jpg,voRXqx0VZhEwZmasEFdQOg==,,,1502747845 137486592,137501340,2017-08-14 21:57:53,">>137500623 Exactly what I mean. What is this bullshit? >>137500335 If you're looking for more non-Rothbard sources (you should expand your horizon, don't just stuck with one school like OP here), here are a few recommendations: Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell: https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Economics-Thomas-Sowell/dp/0465060730/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502762152&sr=1-1&keywords=basic+economics Economics in one lesson by Henry Hazlitt: https://www.amazon.com/Economics-One-Lesson-50th-Anniversary/dp/0930073193/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502762180&sr=1-1&keywords=economics+in+one+lesson Road to Serfdom by Hayek: https://www.amazon.com/Road-Serfdom-Documents-Definitive-Collected-ebook/dp/B0048EJXCK/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502762220&sr=1-1&keywords=road+to+serfdom If you want some old school: Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith: https://www.amazon.com/Wealth-Nations-Adam-Smith-ebook/dp/B000FC1CVE/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502762240&sr=1-3&keywords=adam+smith+wealth+of+nations",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747873 137486592,137501682,2017-08-14 21:59:55,">>137500335 Start with economics in one lesson ny Henry Hazlitt. It's free on the Mises Institute. Then either Machinery of Freedom or something by Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747995 137486592,137501774,2017-08-14 22:00:28,someone posted a really good no step on snek anime girl recently the last few days. Its new and not on google seaches. Anyone have it?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748028 137486592,137501837,2017-08-14 22:00:48,>>137501774,,Anonymous,libertarian 2.jpg,C6xtzBQDBU+iEKYFO88I0g==,CA,,1502748048 137486592,137502163,2017-08-14 22:02:43,">>137501837 that doesn't make me quite as hard as the one I remember",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748163 137486592,137502250,2017-08-14 22:03:15,">>137499943 Got some more",,Anonymous,1486006139429.png,n+Is7OCVV9FY2CL9JaDGGQ==,,,1502748195 137486592,137502318,2017-08-14 22:03:41,>>137502250,,Anonymous,1481071727007.jpg,ClSBvP3fRgDEayCD/Wgw1Q==,,,1502748221 137486592,137502335,2017-08-14 22:03:47,">>137501837 >Minarchy doesn't throb his knob Get out of here commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748227 137486592,137502536,2017-08-14 22:05:11,"http://libertyhangout.org/2017/08/libertarian-chairman-refers-to-mises-institute-as-preferred-choice-of-actual-nazis/ LP is controlled opposition.",,Anonymous,mises=nazi.png,KQq/SYZq38DxsjSO12DVnw==,,,1502748311 137486592,137502564,2017-08-14 22:05:21,">>137501774 See>>137494891 This? I swear I've seen a colored version as well.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748321 137486592,137502566,2017-08-14 22:05:22,">>137496261 Stockholm syndrome",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748322 137486592,137502579,2017-08-14 22:05:26,>le reddit snake memes XD,,Anonymous,AnCap snail.png,aNnWzwXZHvxAP7wOlWykTQ==,,,1502748326 137486592,137502650,2017-08-14 22:05:57,">>137502250 seems related",,Anonymous,1501469351935.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1502748357 137486592,137502810,2017-08-14 22:07:02,">>137499943 snek",,Anonymous,13e8Pj.jpg,DYQqHnclH3pBlU4OiBdMYQ==,,,1502748422 137486592,137503034,2017-08-14 22:08:25,">>137502579 Because Hitler's Germany was a paradise? Literally retard. Nazshits are useful idiots for us, all collectivists and leftists get the helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748505 137486592,137503161,2017-08-14 22:09:11,">>137502564 no, it was a really nice anime girl, with a dont step on snek shirt on, I think she was armed with a gun and had big boobs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748551 137486592,137503207,2017-08-14 22:09:26,">>137500335 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Fj5tzuYBE Comfy.",,Anonymous,1502389354844.jpg,jh2HvmwrOb+GCU2wrplSpQ==,,,1502748566 137486592,137503244,2017-08-14 22:09:43,">>137503034 >useful idiots Since when? Natsocs have been ruining pol and the right wing movements for years now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748583 137486592,137503388,2017-08-14 22:10:41,">>137502579 >the reason monopolies aren't taking place outside of irrelevant and obscure markets is because of government intervention.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1502748641 137486592,137503563,2017-08-14 22:11:47,">>137503034 >implying you can stop a united fascist force as individualists You aren't superman. It's doubtful you guys could even hold back a Commie invasion without resorting to the ""private army"" meme, which no one on here would be able to afford. >>137503244 >ruining /pol/ Fuck off, /pol/ and /new/ were always NatSoc, Fascist, and Monarchist. pic related",,Anonymous,pol nazi.png,/kncqe/RlaZDdP0buj5+WQ==,,,1502748707 137486592,137503616,2017-08-14 22:12:11,">>137503034 > Nazshits are useful idiots for us > he doesn't know it's the other way around",,Anonymous,LOLLLLL.jpg,lAZMHVKFjGFgM9thB2MPsg==,CA,,1502748731 137486592,137503710,2017-08-14 22:12:51,">>137503244 Yeah but them and the commies will end up weakening each other. Heck, even if we lose we'll still win eventually, our victory is inevitable not because the people want it, but because our system is the only sustainable one, and all other systems must at least make concessions to our in order to survive.",,Anonymous,statism.png,2nZh5Yp6OOvTj9su9rqMpQ==,,,1502748771 137486592,137503717,2017-08-14 22:12:55,">>137489950 false imprisonment is a crime, you know? just use your chubby leg stumps and walk away.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748775 137486592,137503781,2017-08-14 22:13:17,">>137503161 I think I have something similiar",,Anonymous,1502161950029.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1502748797 137486592,137503874,2017-08-14 22:13:52,>>137503781,,Anonymous,ytW25BE.png,6B+URE5HY8AXfavyMgyxMg==,,,1502748832 137486592,137503886,2017-08-14 22:13:55,"I think one of the bigger problems that Libertarians are facing currently would have to the the LP. I don't know if you saw what they posted on Twitter about NK being a ""paradise"" for weed smokers, but their message is complete garbage. So currently, people who are active libertarians have to fight against their own party's twisted message as well as all the other opposition coming from the left and right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748835 137486592,137503930,2017-08-14 22:14:13,>>137503874,,Anonymous,1490566163055.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1502748853 137486592,137503958,2017-08-14 22:14:26,">>137503563 And how exactly does your post NOT prove my point, stormfag?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748866 137486592,137503993,2017-08-14 22:14:38,>>137503930,,Anonymous,1490274520643.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,,,1502748878 137486592,137504038,2017-08-14 22:14:58,>>137503993,,Anonymous,1498446027702.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,,,1502748898 137486592,137504066,2017-08-14 22:15:09,">>137502536 Thank God the LP is there to guide us to success, electoral victories and true liberty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748909 137486592,137504089,2017-08-14 22:15:17,"Anyone got the general image with Hoppe, Bastiat, Rothbard, Ayn Rand, Hayek & Mises as pepes?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748917 137486592,137504118,2017-08-14 22:15:30,,,Anonymous,,,,,1502748930 137486592,137504261,2017-08-14 22:16:30,">>137503958 We are the ones with the energy. Look at the Unite the right rally. More energy than a Trump rally. Literally a state of emergency was called. Stop resisting.",,Anonymous,hitler in your heart you know hes right.jpg,SEntpKJPE0FONzTD1ixACQ==,CA,,1502748990 137486592,137504363,2017-08-14 22:17:13,>>137504261,,Anonymous,1483678211876.jpg,ejspPipRoNnmMkgJjXJclg==,US,,1502749033 137486592,137504460,2017-08-14 22:17:48,">>137504261 That rally was a big joking mess.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749068 137486592,137504534,2017-08-14 22:18:17,">>137503710 A group will always be stronger than the individual. Literally any government group that pops up, even bad ones, will be stronger than you. >>137503958 Because that was on /new/. Libertarians and AnCaps used to be a joke on /new/ and /pol/, the only reason there are so many now is that moderates from reddit couldn't swallow the whole redpill, and became only slightly less moderate because of it. There used to be daily holohoax threads, redpill threads, and lots of other shit you probably don't know about. I bet you don't even know what JIDF stands for without looking it up. pic related is what old /pol/ thought of you",,Anonymous,Ancient meme of new and oldpol.jpg,YNyUAsv8m0ug8YwwxfLKWQ==,,,1502749097 137486592,137504568,2017-08-14 22:18:32,">tfw my friend is a nationalist cuckservative >tell him that i don't care if gays marry, or if a business lets trannies into a certain restroom, and that making kids do the pledge of allegiance is bullshit >he automatically thinks im a leftist and cuts contact with me and refuses to hear me out",,Anonymous,1461803443004.png,40GG24Pep7OlpkLkA7VWZg==,,,1502749112 137486592,137504577,2017-08-14 22:18:34,">>137503563 >implying you can stop a united fascist force as individualists We did in WW2.",,Anonymous,catgirl.png,TUUOMgb/zLHYqo0fvR9yYw==,,,1502749114 137486592,137504709,2017-08-14 22:19:22,">>137504460 >>137504363 Stop Resisting The left will kill you We will bully you. It's inevitable.",,Anonymous,881.jpg,/5YTiOGBALXdWS4UgFYGHQ==,CA,,1502749162 137486592,137504848,2017-08-14 22:20:17,">>137502536 Fuck the Libertarian Party, we should infiltrate both the Democratic and Republican parties as sleeper agents.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749217 137486592,137504880,2017-08-14 22:20:27,">>137504577 >the government didn't pay, equip, and transport all of those soldiers And now we are run by Jews.",,Anonymous,Jewish Media.jpg,0/55dhdhIZBe5pBqVENIqg==,,,1502749227 137486592,137505113,2017-08-14 22:21:56,">>137504534 >There used to be daily holohoax threads, redpill threads, and lots of other shit you probably don't know about. They stopped because you're fucking wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749316 137486592,137505124,2017-08-14 22:22:00,">>137504534 >My circle of stormfront rejects have been mocking you guys for decades Leave your mother's basement for once and just go shitpost on voat.co, you insecure faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749320 137486592,137505157,2017-08-14 22:22:14,">>137504534 If I had any of those fat nazi memes I'd post one, because it's true. In the same way only degenerates promote marxism, only degenerates promote nazism. Only people who have nothing of their own want extremist, authoritarian bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749334 137486592,137505166,2017-08-14 22:22:17,">>137504534 >Because that was on /new/. Libertarians and AnCaps used to be a joke on /new/ and /pol/, the only reason there are so many now is that moderates from reddit couldn't swallow the whole redpill, and became only slightly less moderate because of it. There used to be daily holohoax threads, redpill threads, and lots of other shit you probably don't know about. I bet you don't even know what JIDF stands for without looking it up. Revisionist history in your favor. Shit meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749337 137486592,137505209,2017-08-14 22:22:31,">>137504880 >the equipment, payment, and transportation didn't come from privately owned industries Hitler was the best thing to ever happen to the Jews. He's the reason the eastern half of Europe was oppressed by communism for decades, and he's the reason the Jews got the state of Israel.",,Anonymous,pistol.jpg,R90GQnhRuU2YRiOGd59H0A==,,,1502749351 137486592,137505498,2017-08-14 22:24:24,">>137505209 Wew lad. So to achieve our goals we should actually just instead do like the libertarians- nothing",,Anonymous,i blame.png,iPqwsvjSZ7Qcc1sDNj3TJA==,CA,,1502749464 137486592,137505536,2017-08-14 22:24:39,">>137505113 >>137505124 >>137505157 >>137505166 Not an argument. >>137505209 You realize he lost, right? He wanted to prevent what we have now.",,Anonymous,Libertarian Problems.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,,,1502749479 137486592,137505560,2017-08-14 22:24:49,">>137493428 >We must never go extinct if the human race wants to take the next step in our evolution. meanwhile in China... http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/828735/China-clone-humans-super-soldier-breed-dog-genetic-engineer",,Anonymous,Quotefancy-9508-3840x2160.jpg,jZFqjV64uwiQERNXD1ie4w==,US,,1502749489 137486592,137505632,2017-08-14 22:25:21,">>137504534 Do you remember when Libertarians & Ancaps btfo the enitre board in 2012? Majority opinion shifted to free market capitalism and individualism, not long after most of the Minarchists were converted to Voluntaryist. We shared the board with the joke threads pretty comfortably, that was the golden age of this place imo. Bitcoin was new, hope was high, youtube was growing to displace the MSM, we were sharing literature & memes, doing healthy debates between systems it was good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749521 137486592,137505669,2017-08-14 22:25:39,">>137505498 Libertarians created America, the nation that destroyed Germany twice. And if they keep acting like massive faggots, it's going to happen again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749539 137486592,137505683,2017-08-14 22:25:46,">>137505536 >Stormfag quotes a libertarian",,Anonymous,older-man-giving-thumb-up-computer-game-16618158.jpg,kZ/UlH6t6mhPBNtKNzwp9g==,US,,1502749546 137486592,137505711,2017-08-14 22:25:57,">>137505536 >You realize he lost, right? Yes, he was a fucking idiot. >>137505498 No, we should get the government out of our way so we can do something.",,Anonymous,chile ven.jpg,hfOl1kRdcRkpKVwed8M2Dg==,,,1502749557 137486592,137505795,2017-08-14 22:26:34,,,Anonymous,1474325668918.png,PC4AuJiRXa1ND3/XHd8cIw==,,,1502749594 137486592,137505832,2017-08-14 22:26:50,">>137504880 Take away the FCC, the Civil Rights Act, and the Federal Reserve. What else do the Jews have?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749610 137486592,137505840,2017-08-14 22:26:54,">>137504534 >nazi lying about everything i feel like i've read this same post 500 times in the last couple of days.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749614 137486592,137505894,2017-08-14 22:27:16,">>137486592 anyone tired of fucking statists? can we give nazi larpers free helicopter rides too?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749636 137486592,137505950,2017-08-14 22:27:36,">>137505536 It isn't an argument, you're right. Your political and economic ideology is a joke.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749656 137486592,137506097,2017-08-14 22:28:38,">>137505894 Yes please, any idea of an alliance between us needs to be dropped, the Nazis will sperg out like they always do and drag us down with them if we tolerate them.",,Anonymous,1024px-Mike_Mullen_with_Chilean_honor_guard_in_Santiago_3-3-09.jpg,FyTjqT4xlNxv4jZem1hRKw==,,,1502749718 137486592,137506119,2017-08-14 22:28:48,">>137505894 I always say all collectivists get the helicopter",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749728 137486592,137506215,2017-08-14 22:29:29,">>137505669 Listen, son. Just march with us and I promise we'll give you your libertarianism when we're done centralizing power.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502749769 137486592,137506276,2017-08-14 22:29:57,">>137505536 You didn't have an argument. You gave a historical account with no evidence. We say you're full of shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749797 137486592,137506340,2017-08-14 22:30:18,">>137505632 >Libertarians & Ancaps btfo the enitre board in 2012? I only remember Ron Paul getting BTFO. If YOU remember, there weren't even Libertarian generals until last year because there were literally two Libertarians at any given time at /pol/ before then. >>137505683 Right wing economics is good, you just have to pair it with a strong government that doesn't let shit like usury thrive. >>137505711 >>137505840 >>137505950 Still using fallacies. >>137505832 The media, the rest of the banks, social media, Google, YouTube, etc.",,Anonymous,kikes.png,rgFW1yAfExbbM5yeIzEH7g==,,,1502749818 137486592,137506381,2017-08-14 22:30:38,">>137506215 >I promise we'll give you your libertarianism when we're done centralizing power Nope, not falling for it. We're not stupid.",,Anonymous,wavy.png,T0LSogMEz0Hd+DpVThmhDw==,,,1502749838 137486592,137506401,2017-08-14 22:30:44,">>137486592 is the libright accepting of hard working minorities?",,Anonymous,1502241512503.gif,81es2THmb0n1+JO655SJIw==,US,,1502749844 137486592,137506415,2017-08-14 22:30:49,">>137487913 >take x >give x to government to manage >require meaningful metrics of government's handling of x to be posted at reasonable intervals >require justification of change in how x is managed >require system to dismiss the people managing x at any time >let autists manage those that manage x Autism is the perfect regulatory institution. >>137491203 Buy a rifle and McShoot them, you fucking idiot. If the sovereign owner of the property doesn't allow you to freely exchange firearms and ammunition, then you're in a fascist state not a libertarian society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749849 137486592,137506448,2017-08-14 22:31:05,">>137506276 >>137503563 >no evidence kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749865 137486592,137506473,2017-08-14 22:31:14,">>137506097 >letting leftists control and divide us I thought you guys were better than that",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749874 137486592,137506480,2017-08-14 22:31:16,">>137506340 >Right wing economics is good >usury is bad You have no fucking idea what you're talking about, you raging faggot.",,Anonymous,ok.jpg,ir8c49X3imtBatIn2hlmBw==,US,,1502749876 137486592,137506620,2017-08-14 22:32:15,">>137506473 >implying Nazis aren't leftist",,Anonymous,snek.png,GznJp622dUaVTw1Hd/EwMw==,,,1502749935 137486592,137506660,2017-08-14 22:32:30,">>137503710 Amen, brother",,Anonymous,,,,,1502749950 137486592,137506720,2017-08-14 22:33:00,">>137506340 >The media, the rest of the banks, social media, Google, YouTube, etc. Media=controlled by the FCC Banks=controlled by the Federal Reserve, we want competing currencies or gold standard, no fractional reserve banking. Social media, Youtube, Google=all benefit from explict state interevention https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749980 137486592,137506756,2017-08-14 22:33:13,">>137500008 Preventing the bank runs that caused the 1929 crash, which is what the Fed was set up to do but it didn't. Which is why I tend to agree with Austrians because I don't trust consolidated power. COULD it be used for good? Sure. Will it? No because humans are flawed, greedy, marred creatures.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749993 137486592,137506787,2017-08-14 22:33:26,">>137506473 We're just here to make sure these libertarians know they're antifa cucks, and the white ones among them will filter themselves out over to us when it gets serious.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750006 137486592,137506895,2017-08-14 22:34:10,">>137506480 Let me break it down for you since you want to pretend to be retarded >private property good >successful business good >high quality of life good >unreasonable banks and megacorps bad >jobs leaving country bad",,Anonymous,Fascism redpill.png,K95kbefwED2tyI8Ca+JKdg==,,,1502750050 137486592,137506908,2017-08-14 22:34:17,">>137506620 Is abolishing unearned income and banning usury and immigration leftist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750057 137486592,137506987,2017-08-14 22:34:47,">>137506401 YES, I feel very strongly about having the best POC in our society, rather than trailer trash.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750087 137486592,137507067,2017-08-14 22:35:17,">>137505894 >>137506119 natsocs are our useful idiots",,Anonymous,23478923742.png,Qsb9lzx70KZM6yIZP5FENQ==,,,1502750117 137486592,137507120,2017-08-14 22:35:38,">>137506895 >Implying we can have successful business without loans and debt Like I said, retarded, Probably an under aged little faggot, who has never actually studied economics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750138 137486592,137507209,2017-08-14 22:36:12,">>137506908 Yes.",,Anonymous,dresden.jpg,IQ5czT3LHAayulDFH9/ECg==,,,1502750172 137486592,137507268,2017-08-14 22:36:35,">>137507067 See my earlier post",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750195 137486592,137507296,2017-08-14 22:36:46,">>137486592 Finally! Someone who is interested in what I have to say! So, what do you want to talk about, OP?",,Anonymous,1489622236540.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,,,1502750206 137486592,137507427,2017-08-14 22:37:33,">>137506448 Where does it say this is a Natsoc, fascist, monarch board?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750253 137486592,137507522,2017-08-14 22:38:08,">>137506720 >ctrl + f >FCC >0 results >>137507120 I didn't say there couldn't be any loans, just not unreasonable rates. >>137507067 >helicopter meme pic related, you won't do shit, just like Libertarians haven't done shit for 200 years.",,Anonymous,Libertarians and Ancaps ready to be overrun by commies.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,,,1502750288 137486592,137507583,2017-08-14 22:38:32,">>137506340 > there weren't even Libertarian generals until last year Didn't need generals in those days, it was just healthy debate threads & discussion threads on bitcoin, roads, innovation, climate change/nuclear etc. You honestly don't remember do you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750312 137486592,137507621,2017-08-14 22:38:46,">>137506787 Actually, I decided to marry a white woman after I get a stable life and only look in places where conservative women hang out. I don't care if others decide to be degenerates or race-mixers; it's their lives and they can waste them by being subhuman if the wish. On that note, while I disagree with your politics, you're more than welcome to explain them and I'll give you the respect you deserve. >>137506908 >banning usury Yes, but it's understandable. >banning immigration Not in the slightest, but it's still better to grant visas to people that know the language and have useful skills.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750326 137486592,137507758,2017-08-14 22:39:40,">>137507522 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750380 137486592,137507781,2017-08-14 22:39:49,">>137507522 >The market shouldn't dictate interest rates, I SHOULD Like I said, underaged fag. By the way, that's what leftist support as well, because they don't understand anything. It's been the cause of every mess so far.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750389 137486592,137507848,2017-08-14 22:40:20,">>137486592 Okay you have convinced me after this shit with antifa and the alt right where do i start anons i want to feel the spirit of ron paul flow through me.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1502750420 137486592,137507896,2017-08-14 22:40:40,">>137507522 Once businesses realize it'll be a net gain in the long term, it'll happen.",,Anonymous,how-many-layers-of-economics-are-you-on-my-dude-7690542.png,3p/1dHuIxNyoR7/m+Vpdpw==,,,1502750440 137486592,137508078,2017-08-14 22:42:02,">>137486592 Whats your guys answer to Capitalism and free market economies being so easily taken control and manipulated by (((them))) ? thats one of the only off putting things about Libertarianism for me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750522 137486592,137508083,2017-08-14 22:42:03,">>137507522 > just not unreasonable rates. > price controls totally work goyim There are reasons Venezuelans are starving mate. Artificially controlling interest rates is how we've gotten into the mess we are now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750523 137486592,137508091,2017-08-14 22:42:06,">>137507848 OP has some good stuff reads",,Anonymous,before-the-tread-after-the-tread-hoppean-snake-memes-before-6777901.png,P0jUtTLGmeULWh4cIV54FA==,,,1502750526 137486592,137508152,2017-08-14 22:42:35,">>137507848 help me anons before i become natsoc and start driving cars again",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1502750555 137486592,137508211,2017-08-14 22:42:58,">>137507427 >the second it becomes stormfront again >google stormfront https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website) >Stormfront is a white nationalist,[3] white supremacist[4] and neo-Nazi[5] Internet forum that was the Web's first major racial hate site.[6] That means you are literally refugees. >>137507583 >Didn't need generals in those days You mean they couldn't stay up because no one would post in them? >>137507758 Yes it is, you say clearly that the FCC is in control of some of this shit, yet it is mentioned NOWHERE that they are. >>137507896 No it won't, you guys didn't do shit in America for 100's of years, even when guns and free speech is attacked.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750578 137486592,137508258,2017-08-14 22:43:19,">>137507848 You know those guys in Wellington, the ones that micromanage your life? Get rid of them and replace them with guys that get rid of those regulations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750599 137486592,137508315,2017-08-14 22:43:46,">>137508211 Do you not know what the FCC is?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750626 137486592,137508350,2017-08-14 22:43:58,">went to the nazi general to try and reason with them on why invoking hitler and nazis is bad for the idea of ethnic nationalism >'if we tell normies they're retarded and everything they believe in are lies we'll surely get them to our side' i missed you, /lbg/",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750638 137486592,137508382,2017-08-14 22:44:14,">>137508091 i will become the snek",,Anonymous,1498889486826.jpg,WcZ0TAoWqb+0VprInC2z9g==,NZ,,1502750654 137486592,137508452,2017-08-14 22:44:44,">>137508078 Not many ancap seem to give a fuck about the JQ. I know I don't.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750684 137486592,137508521,2017-08-14 22:45:17,">>137508211 You want to know one of the easiest ways of BTFO'ing NatSoc's? Telling them that they have no way of implementing their ideology and an individual nation, let alone having this happen without getting ass fucked by other nations.",,Anonymous,You-Think-This-Is-A-Game-Funny-Snake-Meme-Picture.jpg,7QdX8dpRSHWFO6NyceduRA==,,,1502750717 137486592,137508594,2017-08-14 22:45:43,">>137508211 >the second it becomes stormfront again >google stormfront https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website) >Stormfront is a white nationalist,[3] white supremacist[4] and neo-Nazi[5] Internet forum that was the Web's first major racial hate site.[6] >That means you are literally refugees. Again I ask, where on this board and website does it say that the official political ideology of /pol/ is Natsoc, Fascist, and Monarchy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750743 137486592,137508609,2017-08-14 22:45:50,">>137486745 Chicago school is just Keynesian economics with a few minor differences. Austrian is always better than Keynesian, whatever the brand.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750750 137486592,137508634,2017-08-14 22:46:01,">>137508083 There is more than one reason why Venezuelans are starving, my good friend. They have done so much wrong. >>137508315 Yes. It still doesn't say anything about them in the article you posted.",,Anonymous,Libertarians.png,xZRxt3TOdF4lJeCxS6ej4g==,,,1502750761 137486592,137508674,2017-08-14 22:46:16,">>137508350 Nazis are a fucking black hole of public relation. It died in the concentration camps and they're never getting it back.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750776 137486592,137508725,2017-08-14 22:46:41,">>137508078 The problem with jews I guess is the tribalism? I don't really see a problem aside from that, they're pretty smart.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750801 137486592,137508784,2017-08-14 22:47:05,">>137507621 I let Hitler do the speaking. http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1502668959076.webm >>>/gif/11099754",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750825 137486592,137508873,2017-08-14 22:47:40,">>137508078 (((They))) are not a monolithic entity and there are plenty of Jewish helicopters pilots and free marketeers. The first step to admitting that THE Jews don't control literally everything is simply admitting that Jews (plural) control literally everything, and that signifies that they're damn well a more adaptable and capable race than whites currently are. They control everything because they're high-intelligence and help each other on an individual basis, not because of a grand Elders of Zion conspiracy. They are literally the society and ethnic solidarity white supremacists wish they could have.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750860 137486592,137509086,2017-08-14 22:49:07,">>137508873 This",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750947 137486592,137509193,2017-08-14 22:49:52,">>137508078 You take away their means of control, which are almost all unnecessary government institutions. See >>137505832 >>137506720",,Anonymous,1502614674371.jpg,Bj3d7g4nSE4L4YIBYZMGpg==,US,,1502750992 137486592,137509322,2017-08-14 22:50:47,">>137508634 The article was related to Google and how it was made by the CIA.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502751047 137486592,137509406,2017-08-14 22:51:30,">>137508521 Not really. There is a decent chance now. We aren't defeatists. Even if the U.S falls, the remaining Nazis will just not racemix and move out of country to make a NatSoc country hopefully. >>137508594 Are you just pretending to be retarded or what? /pol/, Politically Incorrect, was made because /new/, News, were Nazis, and m00t wanted to distance himself from them by calling the board ""Politically Incorrect"". Notice that it is not called ""Politically Correct"", or ""Politics"", but ""Politically Incorrect"". You would know this if you had been on here for any significant amount of time before 2015.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751090 137486592,137509456,2017-08-14 22:51:49,"Just for fun. This gave me a laugh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751109 137486592,137509520,2017-08-14 22:52:15,">>137509322 Threads dying, I'm not going to read the whole thing. I did my duty.",,Anonymous,0000000000.jpg,tln1stPHti8DIvyA3Eq82w==,,,1502751135 137486592,137509573,2017-08-14 22:52:36,">>137509406 You didn't answer the question.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502751156 137486592,137509596,2017-08-14 22:52:44,">>137508873 >They are literally the society and ethnic solidarity white supremacists wish they could have. yes",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751164 137486592,137509612,2017-08-14 22:52:49,"Guys, no matter which side that we might sympathise with, the fascists or the communists, antifa or white nationalists, we have to group those two groups together as what they are in essance, the COLLECTIVISTS. If either side wins, we loose. Communists will starve us with shit economics and kill normal people. The fascists will be repressive as hell as well, and douchebags like spencer have Socialist economics anyways. COLLECTIVISM vs. LIBERTY!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502751169 137486592,137509726,2017-08-14 22:53:39,">>137509456 It sucked right away.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751219 137486592,137509852,2017-08-14 22:54:30,">>137508873 Right but you cant dismiss their tribalism and sense of their people first, that means if you arent one of them then they seek to exploit you, that the problem with them, they are a threat to my people and letting a group like that exist, a group that wants all the power for itself will deprive and kill off other groups fighting for that, and im on the side of my people",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751270 137486592,137509916,2017-08-14 22:55:02,">>137509612 Exactly this, but don't get too tribal in those there's Us and there's Them belief. It's part of what makes someone a cuckunist in the first place. Freedom is about doing you with others.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751302 137486592,137509919,2017-08-14 22:55:04,">>137508784 It's a reasonable speech, but the truth is with a small, weak government that only handles the enforcement of agreements, claims, and law (and possibly currency, infrastructure, and defense), and nothing else, you have a system held entirely accountable to the people and is too incompatible with communist bullshit. Simply put, the more power a government has in a society, the more corruption and communism can and eventually will exist in that society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502751304 137486592,137509925,2017-08-14 22:55:06,">>137509612 >materialism is all that matters >t.karl marx",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751306 137486592,137509930,2017-08-14 22:55:08,">>137508634 > There is more than one reason why Venezuelans are starving, my good friend. Yeah that's why I used a plural for reasons. Price controls & artificially induced inflation among them. > Libertarians don't care about morals bullshit libertarianism is founded on a moral framework that allows your subjective morals to fill in within that framework > Libertarians don't care about community bullshit, freedom fosters community, it fosters charity, cooperation & voluntary peaceful associations, it's the most community driven ideology around, just because we see the use in trading with people in a global community doesn't mean community is cast aside. Also, what kind of random meme would say something like Libertarians hide behind concepts they refused to define clearly, like as if the NAP & property rights haven't been clearly defined a million times over, as has natural law, argumentation ethics, praxeology, free markets, voluntaryism etc. > Libertarians are jews funny that the jews financed the Nazi's & the commies and did everything in their power to betray the american right and demonize classical liberalism, hmm.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751308 137486592,137510039,2017-08-14 22:55:52,">>137509573 Yes I did. You can pretend to not know logic, but you can't hide the fact that to all the lurkers, you are wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751352 137486592,137510152,2017-08-14 22:56:40,"We reached the bump limit, can anyone make a new thread?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751400 137486592,137510177,2017-08-14 22:56:49,">>137508634 >They don't care about morals. You're retarded. If you're defending morals, you can't do it from a subjective standpoint. There isn't a problem with a state you fucking dimwit, just with an involuntary one. >They don't care about community. >They don't care about art. These are all things that come from the neocortex of the brain, where empathy is also generated. Statists are the psychopaths. You are delusional. Let's get back to basic, elementary level knowledge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUDdOR618xE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwwvtDN3-J8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502751409 137486592,137510187,2017-08-14 22:56:57,">>137509930 NAP can't even be defined the same way by two different AnCaps and Libertarians, much less society at large.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751417 137486592,137510269,2017-08-14 22:57:28,">>137509925 National Socialism and its concomitant racism is one branch of materialism. It simply veers into biologism instead of economic determinism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751448 137486592,137510340,2017-08-14 22:58:05,">>137509930 >>137510177 AnCaps wouldn't care about child prostitution rings, is that moral?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751485 137486592,137510406,2017-08-14 22:58:32,">>137510187 >NAP can't even be defined HURRRRR DURRRRRRRRR NOTHING IS REAL, NOTHING MATTERS, EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE, ITS COMPLETELY OKAY TO FUCK BABIES AND MODERN ART IS GREAT LOLOLOLOL XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. That's you right now. Kys.",,Anonymous,eb510e74c3e2c5b7f9e3f482d9dc5704.jpg,cagcRnt6y0fc4aL0VRP8kg==,US,,1502751512 137486592,137510458,2017-08-14 22:58:57,">>137510187 I think most people agree with the NAP roughly translating to ""don't fuck with me, or I will really fuck with you.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502751537 137486592,137510604,2017-08-14 23:00:04,">>137510406 OK, so would communists be violating the NAP by their mere existence, or is it until they act? Tell me when every single AnCap and Libertarian, without meming, agrees on this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751604 137486592,137510647,2017-08-14 23:00:25,>>137510177,,Anonymous,Cp3tO0cUMAEpi9M.jpg,bXc1L+SlGGykpQUH0ZkErg==,,,1502751625 137486592,137510674,2017-08-14 23:00:37,">>137510340 >AnCaps wouldn't care about child prostitution rings Oh hey look, it's a strawman.",,Anonymous,blackwater.jpg,ul4vYKCrrwTkIa1xWQmOQg==,,,1502751637 137486592,137510713,2017-08-14 23:00:53,">>137510406 Also, not an argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751653 137486592,137510787,2017-08-14 23:01:35,">>137510674 What authority do you have to stop it? If you don't stop it, then you obviously don't care. It's moral enough for you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751695 137486592,137510793,2017-08-14 23:01:36,">>137506401 >is the libright accepting of hard working ______? yes. capitalism discriminates on the basis of merit. i don't know who runs any of the companies i buy from and i don't care, it's irrelevant next to the product offered and the practices of the company itself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502751696 137486592,137510845,2017-08-14 23:01:57,">>137509919 Large scale communist removal has only been done by Hitler.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751717 137486592,137510866,2017-08-14 23:02:08,">>137509852 You could spend your time chasing down Jews til the sun explodes and play whack-a-mole for eternity, all the while eliminating perfectly fine Jews in alignment with your economic philosophies, or you could do what they do and prioritize real education (not that shit gubmint edmcatn), value success and educated risk-taking, and directly help others who meet these qualities and fulfill your best aspirations for your ""race"". I ethnically descend from an island nation of borderline retards and it's simple for me to see this. The fact that white supremacists continue to delude themselves with fantasies of eliminating the Jews and imposing their perfect society and haven't fucking learned why Jewish society works is hysterical.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751728 137486592,137510873,2017-08-14 23:02:12,">>137510787 >What authority do you have to stop it? A child prostitution ring violates the NAP.",,Anonymous,tread.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,,,1502751732 137486592,137511002,2017-08-14 23:03:20,">>137510873 So children have their own NAP? What if the parent violates the child's NAP then?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751800 137486592,137511042,2017-08-14 23:03:44,">>137510873 Thanks for posting that, I saw it before but haven't been able to find it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502751824 137486592,137511049,2017-08-14 23:03:45,">>137510340 >AnCaps wouldn't care about child prostitution rings, is that moral? How do you know they wouldn't? How are you, even so special to be a skeptic, would even know what they would and wouldn't do? Do you think if you KNEW about a prostitution ring of children in the community the local security contractor wouldn't inform your land lord to kick you out and your boss to fire you? You guilty fucking piece of dog dick? THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT IN THE US IS RAN BY CHILD EATING, RAPING, SATANIC OCCULTISTS YET YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING. WHY? YOU'RE A COWARD WITH NO KNOWLEDGE. >>137510604 OK, so would dudes be violating the law by their mere existence, or is it until they rape? Tell me when every single person, without meming, agrees on this. How fucking stupid are you. It doesn't matter whether you're a potato worshiper or a communist - if you aren't trying to hurt other human beings or subvert other human beings you are not a threat. >>137510713 You saying, not an argument, is not an argument. Your deflectory methods suck.",,Anonymous,pizza.jpg,MqIp8ekVSEUMhwh9Q9ppyA==,US,,1502751825 137486592,137511154,2017-08-14 23:04:34,">>137510039 you natsocs have been super whiny ever since hwndu. because it shed light on the fact that most of this board is LARP and memes. You are simply delusional, my nazi friend, but don't worry because you will always be welcome here. That said, if you finally choose to accept this information, you may begin to realize the role you play in this grand production. >we end your own life, please. you are nothing but one of the many mindless appendages of the egregore",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502751874 137486592,137511207,2017-08-14 23:04:53,">>137510845 And? My point is communists can't do anything with a small government, and their attempts to expand the government would be met with immediate peaceful responses, and if the communists don't take the hint, then the fun removal happens.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502751893 137486592,137511271,2017-08-14 23:05:23,,,Anonymous,BuildingReality.jpg,b+1l02ntKAk7qUMzDsezAQ==,US,,1502751923 137486592,137511318,2017-08-14 23:05:44,,,Anonymous,1474805223505.jpg,BFmhZ1MimMR8wZSm2+5pog==,US,,1502751944 137666218,137666218,2017-08-15 22:24:17,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,LRG.png,6gjf/sRNA+UVODrlfTPRGQ==,GB,,1502835857 137666218,137666499,2017-08-15 22:26:22,">>137666218 Nice image. Are Chicagoans, who love their fellow Austrians, allowed in here?",,Anonymous,Thomas_Sowell_cropped-e1487720444589[1].jpg,8Bb+kXRyOJGpG8+MtUqU/Q==,US,,1502835982 137666218,137666579,2017-08-15 22:27:00,"best thread, only lazy nogs don't like responsibility. get a job socialists!",,Anonymous,10ed.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,,,1502836020 137666218,137667089,2017-08-15 22:30:31,">>137666499 I don't know If you're allowed in the council of accended austrians, but I could check that shit for you.",,Anonymous,Hoppe (8).jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,,,1502836231 137666218,137667132,2017-08-15 22:30:49,">>137666499 Personally I view them as a possible threat to the real goal of liberty, but allies nonetheless",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502836249 137666218,137667619,2017-08-15 22:34:26,">>137667089 >>137667132 True, there are some differences between us (biggest ones I see is methodology and some issues with upper level economic policy) but as long as we work together to defeat keynesian fags, remove commies, and uncuck the LP, we can work all that shit out together at a later date. Cheers",,Anonymous,freakonomics-author-steven-levitt-explains-how-anyone-can-think-like-a-freak[1].jpg,7FXmg/uI9PKwVC4qZg+S9A==,US,,1502836466 137666218,137668636,2017-08-15 22:42:18,">>137667619 The ""Libertarian Party"" will feel our vengence for what they've done.",,Anonymous,Hoppe (22).jpg,8yjb8djlA9QYKTuWjLL+Ew==,,,1502836938 137666218,137669004,2017-08-15 22:44:54,">>137668636 The Libertarian Party needs to be completely destroyed and rebuilt. It is the ONLY way to salvage that monstrosity of a fuck up. Or we form our own party. Too many plebbit Liberarians this day and age, so it might be impossible to save that garbage heap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502837094 137666218,137669265,2017-08-15 22:46:56,">>137666218 But anon, who will build the roads?",,Anonymous,22ed832163f685d570c9d1439e00b820.jpg,W+s3I7XfdNlKHw+3f7ZAtQ==,PT,,1502837216 137666218,137669387,2017-08-15 22:47:54,">>137669265 Don't give me that road shit, communist road builders gtfo!",,Anonymous,Rage_Hoppe.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,,,1502837274 137666218,137670455,2017-08-15 22:56:22,">>137669265 Cars and that mode of transportation are obsolete anyway. If motion circular motion were superior, we would have evolved wheels, but we didn't. Roads are keeping us from developing the true master race of traveling.",,Anonymous,latest[1].png,GaqNEVHIrIUW3HcdBrk+qQ==,US,,1502837782 137666218,137670740,2017-08-15 22:58:39,">>137669387 The Free Market can't build the roads, only the Will of Allah can!",,Anonymous,R9ObHWc_d.jpg,gEHxSCXU6TU5mlpnYz/9OQ==,PT,,1502837919 137964450,137964450,2017-08-17 20:04:45,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,file.png,GBimPiiG3tVle3O9heDI6A==,GB,,1503000285 137964450,137964888,2017-08-17 20:07:48,FREE CANTWELL!,,Anonymous,MUHNAP.png,YKMhpCx9I/P9FFQtKb57Kg==,US,,1503000468 137964450,137965862,2017-08-17 20:14:35,Libertarian Monarchism is best ideology,,Anonymous,Libertarian Monarchism Tread 2.png,gphNyPVGRaNtut2+/lmR5w==,,,1503000875 137964450,137966233,2017-08-17 20:17:21,,,Anonymous,socially_liberal.jpg,k/bOXQUNCCFq2SrxlXC1tQ==,US,,1503001041 137964450,137966511,2017-08-17 20:19:17,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-02.02.35.jpg,QDfv/Oa8CgUpzMvzx3EG8g==,US,,1503001157 137964450,137967388,2017-08-17 20:25:39,">>137964450 Haha fuck you faggots, you guys are fucking gay, I bet you let niggers fuck your wives, how is liberalism going to stop all the mudslims, niggers, and jews from taking over? Capilalism is a shamy we need True powerful nazism to weed out all the degenerates from the genetic ones to the ones who do drugs or listen to rap and pop music, they all need to be removed, one way or another.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503001539 137964450,137967524,2017-08-17 20:26:44,"Who's your most under rated libertarian thinker? If you don't like Ralph Raico you're a bitch.",,Anonymous,Ralph Raico_0.jpg,pLCNE1JB64vKYgC87e5s5Q==,,,1503001604 137964450,137967556,2017-08-17 20:26:58,">>137964450 Haha fuck you faggots, you guys are fucking gay, I bet you let niggers fuck your wives, how is liberalism going to stop all the mudslims, niggers, and jews from taking over? Capilalism is a shamy we need True powerful nazism to weed out all the degenerates from the genetic ones to the ones who do drugs or listen to rap and pop music, they all need to be removed, one way or another. Seriously bad times need strong men, and your pussy ideology won't fix it at all.",,Anonymous,nazi pepe.png,cJZmzTfAOraWMpC02ULE6Q==,,,1503001618 137964450,137967803,2017-08-17 20:28:49,">>137967388 Your low IQ is duly noted.",,Anonymous,pareto - no more than a name.jpg,zJb6KNrHEZzJ0E6a6lnxDA==,,,1503001729 137964450,137967885,2017-08-17 20:29:24,">>137967388 >>137967556 We're not liberals and believe in the family unit as the natural opposition to the state, as well as private traditional communities. National socialism is a contradiction in policy, socialism is dysgenics and statism is opposed to family and tradition.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503001764 137964450,137968163,2017-08-17 20:31:32,">>137967388 >they all need to be removed, Would you say they need to be PHYSICALLY REMOVED?",,Anonymous,IMG_0341.jpg,GsAicDPtPhMK+BqS836QrA==,US,,1503001892 137964450,137968180,2017-08-17 20:31:36,">>137964888 fuck cantwell",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503001896 137964450,137968292,2017-08-17 20:32:27,Libertarianism won't stop tranny hordes from indoctrinating you children,,Anonymous,,,US,,1503001947 137964450,137968362,2017-08-17 20:33:03,">>137967885 you call yourselves liberals, thats the name of the general, your no different to the other liberals and SJW you just try to pretend and hide behind capilaism, you still want the government to get rid of all the bullys and strong men just because they said mean things or have a bad flag that is about history and heritage not slavery or killing jews. If your so liberal isn't owning slaves the mos free thing you could do",,Anonymous,,,,,1503001983 137964450,137968373,2017-08-17 20:33:09,">>137967885 You're reasoning in accordance to the names and not to the things. National socialism explicitly endorses eugenics -- whether that's a correct theory or not -- and doesn't necessarily attack the family in so far as the family does not attack the party / the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503001989 137964450,137968559,2017-08-17 20:34:38,">>137968362 >you call yourselves liberals, thats the name of the general Actually, we're called libertarians. >you still want the government to get rid of all the bullys and strong men just because they said mean things or have a bad flag that is about history and heritage not slavery or killing jews. We don't want a government at all you idiot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503002078 137964450,137968594,2017-08-17 20:34:52,">>137967885 >contradiction Not really, only insofar as people not doing proper research on it. Hitler was a proud leftist and openly mocked the reactionaries who were horrified at his antics. Nationalism, itself, is incredibly leftist in its entirety because it explicitly discriminates against the nature of families and professes the idea that ""We're all the same"" on people, just on a slightly smaller scale. Is it any wonder, then, that its birthplace was in the French Revolution? The horrifying thing to me these days is that people are essentially arguing over different flavors of leftism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503002092 137964450,137968953,2017-08-17 20:37:33,Wanna ally up to remove the reds ?,,Anonymous,,,,,1503002253 137964450,137969025,2017-08-17 20:37:59,">>137968292 Yeah you are right, but the best way to stop that from happening is to teach them right, Think about it, if trannys are that good at it why aren't you or your kids already like that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503002279 137964450,137969064,2017-08-17 20:38:21,">>137968594 This is not correct. The idea of nationalism is not one of sameness of all the individual within the nation, but rather one of some sort of family resemblance which gives people a common background and identifies a historical unit. How else, for instance, could we speak of France or the french people as a group, if not by characterizing this group as being part of a certain lineage along which a certain culture and history was transmitted?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503002301 137964450,137969131,2017-08-17 20:38:43,">>137968362 >liberalism is libertarianism opinion discarded >>137968373 I'm aware that national socialism promotes family and eugenics, but it's policies and structure does the opposite, at least unintentionally. Anyway, natsoc eugenics are more murder.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503002323 137964450,137969329,2017-08-17 20:40:10,">>137969131 Whats the problem with eugenics and murder when they are subhuman?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503002410 137964450,137969499,2017-08-17 20:41:39,">>137968373 Did you know that eugenics itself was promoted heavily by leftist institutions? >>137969064 >The idea of nationalism is not one of sameness of all the individual within the nation, but rather one of some sort of family resemblance which gives people a common background and identifies a historical unit. Which is leftist - my entire point! >How else, for instance, could we speak of France or the french people as a group, if not by characterizing this group as being part of a certain lineage along which a certain culture and history was transmitted? You can't, that's the thing. You cannot speak of ""France"" as there were a multitude of different families and hierarchies involved - a diversity of traits and peoples that cannot be boiled down so easily, if you will. You do not even understand the origins of the ideology you're trying to promote, so I would ask that you take a step back and review some nationalist thinkers and critics to gain a better understanding of it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503002499 137964450,137969721,2017-08-17 20:43:22,">Just another day in the destroyed country that once could be said to ""flourish"" with democracy and happiness , now in a state of total war , no corners in the lawless streets was safe and ideologies thrive to have any impact and bring peace to this civil war , some followers of Anarcho capitalism were prepared....Just like Ancap-Chan , a simple blonde girl that lives in a small house in the outskirts of the city daring to go there to scavange for any resources , donning a simple t-shirt with some more yellow rags to distinguish herself as a follower of such beliefs ""You should not be here......If they discover how I am just lending you a place to stay.....Someone like you...."" > Others followed more .... Extreme beliefs , just like Fashy-Chan , tanned like the brass of italian guns ,she donned a black shirt that showed some signs of blood and mud , afterall she was used to it .... Using violence to stop those that dared to bring her ""nation"" to a path of poverty and decadence ""Sì..Sì , I already know about it , yet have you not understood how times like this we have to stay united? When anarchists and .... Those red bastards unite....We too have to unite!"" > Ancap-Chan got up from the chair slowly looking into the eyes of Fashy-Chan seeking some comfort by sinking her face in her chest mourning the sadness that they lived in ""I just want to get back....Even if it wasn't what I wanted....I want to be able to eat well....To see property that is not burned or vandalized..."" > Fashy-Chan kept hugging her slowly getting a smile telling her ""We have eachother , no matter what the cost might be if anyone finds out...We will be happy to know we both fought for what we believed in , against our worst enemy , even if my nature goes against yours we fight for the common good...."" > Fashy-Chan took her Fez hat placing it on the head of Ancap-Chan that now...At least had a simple smile adorning it ""Come on Ancap-Chan , I brought some meat that I found wrapp- """,,Anonymous,,,,,1503002602 137964450,137970006,2017-08-17 20:45:32,">>137969721 > Just like the speed of a fresh rifle projectile Fashy-Chan was welcomed by a strange hug from behind....Ancap-Chan refused to let it go , enjoying the company of Fashy-Chan ... Even if she didn't see her as equal in her beliefs...She learned how to see the facy of an ally in the figure of Fashy-Chan ""Promise me you will stay with me Fashy-Chan....You..You always said that we are stronger when we are united right? You can unite with me!"" > Fashy-Chan gave just a simple smile turning around to place one gloved hand in the cheek of Ancap-Chan calming her ""I will....I have been here for so long that I don't see you as an enemy...When the war ends we will probably depart in our ways....You to your land....And I will go to my nation...."" > Ancap-Chan looked a bit to the floor before she gave a determined look to Fashy-Chan ""I want to stay with you! No matter how strange or anti-pragmatic it will be , I want to stay with the black shirted girl that cares about a nation! We have our differences....But we both fight the same enemy and if that means we have to unite to kill those reds...."" > Fashy-Chan tilted her head just slightly lifting one eyebrow even before she began to realize where this was going starting to rose her cheeks just slightly as....She saw it more as a romantic advance than anything...To break her beliefs for that moment....Just to see a face of someone she might....Love? ""Ancap-Chan I...I mean we both fight those guys but...Don't you think we should just....Go to our ways and..."" > She ceased talking before she saw how the face of Ancap-Chan lighted up with a smile strangely the capitalist girl was enjoying such attitude ""You look cute when you try to protest it you know? Come on....There is nothing wrong in...Loving your allies""",,Anonymous,,,,,1503002732 137964450,137970297,2017-08-17 20:47:55,">>137969329 If they're subhumans why do Nazis gib them welfare in the first place? Just let them die by not feeding lazy subhuman nogs. Socialism creates it's own problems to fix. Always.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503002875 137964450,137970349,2017-08-17 20:48:25,">>137969499 I'd encourage you to expend your vocabulary beyond ""right"" and ""left"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1503002905 137964450,137971223,2017-08-17 20:55:25,">>137970297 What nazis aren't socialsit and we hate welfare, the world isn't about handouts and free shit, plus some of those niggers are smart enough to live on their own, but when was the last time you heard of a nigger who made it in live, created something other than a mud hut, or wasn't living in poverty? Why is it when you google Europe, then Google South africa you get Nice big buildings for one and the other one is just mudhuts and lions?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503003325 137964450,137971296,2017-08-17 20:56:04,">>137969499 You're a fucking idiot. Nations and nationalism can exist without the state, and family ie blood first is perhaps the highest right wing value above individualism. Also fuck your randian hyper individualist bullshit. Libertine scum.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503003364 137964450,137971471,2017-08-17 20:57:27,">>137971223 Because niggers are dumb. Do you think I'm ignorant of race realism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503003447 137964450,137971799,2017-08-17 20:59:55,what should i expect from this?,,Anonymous,12132452353.png,9o/o32iWzS7uRDplj09C6Q==,US,,1503003595 137964450,137971934,2017-08-17 21:00:55,">>137969721 >>137970006 I don't have a reaction image for intrigued disgust, but I wish I did here. Please, go on.",,Anonymous,reaction.jpg,CVdoIdNJ0O2TiFLyjMVnUg==,GB,,1503003655 137964450,137971981,2017-08-17 21:01:18,">>137971799 Depends, you know what kind of Mises people are gonna be there?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503003678 137964450,137972364,2017-08-17 21:04:40,">>137968180 >cantfuckwell",,Anonymous,2b561fe3be3379e05fa9b6ce9cf70ab7.jpg,QP4H55H3d1n0CFwu//acdw==,US,,1503003880 137964450,137972463,2017-08-17 21:05:29,">>137964450 >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ Removed for violation of hate speech policy. Gonna need that re-uploaded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503003929 137964450,137972486,2017-08-17 21:05:42,">>137971981 >Speakers include Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Ron Paul, Judge Napolitano, Guido Hülsmann, Paul Gottfried, and Tom Woods. Also Joe Salerno, David Gordon, Bob Murphy, Peter Klein, Walter Block, Doug French, Tom DiLorenzo, Mark Thornton, Jeff Herbener, Lew Rockwell, Jeff Deist, and many others. scholarship includes meet and greet, photo op, etc. i've mostly just kept to myself and read books, but when sign ups went out it seemed like something i couldn't pass up",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503003942 137964450,137972970,2017-08-17 21:09:23,">>137970006 > The cheeks of Fashy-Chan rosed up contrasting with her tanned skin , those eyes wide open focusing on the face of Ancap-Chan , that grin settling on her face while one sneaky hand traced just a small movement on the side of the uniform of Fashy-Chan ""Oh a bit stressed for getting a bit close to a capitalist? Come on....Where is all that courage and honor ? A bit afraid to see those....Seductive lips assaulted with just some kisses?"" > The Fez of Fashy-Chan fell , she looked back to Ancap-Chan shyly looking to the side , such a proud girl being afraid to show some or any love for Ancap-Chan , she looked back to her giving a sweet smile ""Only as friends Sí ? I....I don't know if we..."" ""If we last to lovers? Come on! Two girls like us that know how to shoot and protect what they love......Come on..."" > Fashy-Chan looked to the side again closing her eyes softly forming her lips to kiss her yet Ancap-Chan just waited! Torturing the pour soul like that....Just wanting a kiss before she began to open her eye slowly seing the smug look of Ancap-Chan ""You...You cretin! I trust you like this and - "" > Out in this pure state of rage leaving her mouth open Ancap-Chan launched herself to lock her lips with Fashy-Chan , catching her offguard while she wrapped her arms around her back pushing her against the table forcing her to respond with a french kiss > Both girls began to make out , their eyes closed while they traded a soft betrayed form of love in the hidden house , the gloved hands of Fashy-chan made way to the back of Ancap-Chan's head holding it there for some more time just to enjoy the kiss....Just for some more time > They slowly broke the kiss , a small rope of their saliva dropping to the side their eyes focusing on eachother , soon they began to kiss now working a bit more in taking off their clothing , Fashy-Chan softly moaned , not used to such contacts , yet you could see the love on those Italian eyes....",,Anonymous,,,,,1503004163 137964450,137973054,2017-08-17 21:10:07,">>137968292 >send kids to religious school because state can't force you them into (((public education))) >they come out Deus Vulting",,Anonymous,1502850420418.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,PT,,1503004207 137964450,137973327,2017-08-17 21:12:20,">>137964450 Don't use our racialist traditionalist imperial eagle for your mongrel larp sessions retards",,Anonymous,,,,,1503004340 137964450,137973615,2017-08-17 21:15:02,">>137971471 South africa is doing very well for itself and it's GPD is 312,798 million, very close to egypt and israel which is 30,798 and 318,386 respectively. There are many rich african americans in the world and they are not all in poverty at all: Aliko Dangote $14.4 billion. Mike Adenuga, $9.9 billion. Oprah Winfrey $3.1 billion. Robert Smith, $2.5 billion. Femi Otedola, $1.85 billion. Folorunsho Alakija, $1.55 billion. Patrice Motsepe $1.15 billion. Michael Jordan, $1.14 billion Even my own orthodontist is black, he makes more money than me by quite a fair bit. Race realism is a myth, nobody is shacked by their fate or genes, some may have a possibility for potential success based upon their family, yet this has nothing to do with genetic differences as these changes are so slim they would never become a factor, at least not till genetic alterations, and designer children.",,Anonymous,cape town south africa.jpg,NTTH+W2PZPZR8D1EYcbdfQ==,US,,1503004502 137964450,137973797,2017-08-17 21:16:42,">>137973615 >this is what mongrels actually believe in See Minnesota transracial study and James Watson works",,Anonymous,,,,,1503004602 137964450,137974023,2017-08-17 21:18:30,">>137973327 It's the eagle on the US seal.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503004710 137964450,137974300,2017-08-17 21:20:56,">>137968292 >Libertarianism won't stop tranny hordes from indoctrinating you children Wrong. You don't understand how it works. Indoctrination is propaganda. Propaganda is marketing. Marketing is a system to penetrate consumer minds by investing capital. In other words, a free market devoid of ideological censorship easily allows to to further advance straight, conservative values among the masses. Combine it with such a thing as crowdfunding, when conscious individuals donate their funds for the common cause, and you'll get a vague idea of how it's gonna work",,Anonymous,,,,,1503004856 137964450,137974915,2017-08-17 21:25:55,">>137973615 >Blacks are generally successful individuals because Oprah and my orthodontist is black. Did you know Chinese people can be tall some times?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503005155 137964450,137975100,2017-08-17 21:27:19,">>137968292 Build a community and BAN TRANNY FAGGOTS. It's that easy retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503005239 137964450,137975553,2017-08-17 21:31:07,">>137973797 >Minnesota transracial study Racial group differences in IQ are inconclusive provide little or no conclusive evidence for genetic influences underlying racial differences in intelligence and achievement, it is unlikely that these differences are either entirely genetically based or entirely environmentally based. The true causes of racial-group differences in IQ, or in any other characteristic, are too complex to be captured by locating them on a single environmental dimension. if a sample of adoptees of one race or ethnicity scores above another ethnic group’s general-population average, one cannot automatically attribute the above-average score to the adoptees’ ethnicity. The adoptees are adoptees, and adoptees are typically raised in unrepresentative environments which tend to be more nurturing and high in socioeconomic status. Unusually wholesome environments could then explain the adoptees’ above-average IQ, rather than the adoptees’ race. East Asian adoptees raised by Western Whites score about on par with non-adopted Western Whites, and that there is no consistent IQ difference between Black adoptees raised by Whites and White adoptees raised by Whites. Meanwhile, some studies document East Asian adoptee samples with higher IQs than non-East Asian adoptee samples, but it is not clear that any offer a clean comparison of East Asian adoptees and White or Black adoptees in similar environments on complete IQ batteries. These inferences must be provisional because the studies give conflicting results, most of the studies are small, and all are methodologically flawed. TL;DR - It's all false and done completely wrong in a flawed environment and even that flawed environment still shows no sign of racial differences. Plus IQ is bullshit pseudoscience anyways, almost everyone knows that already.",,Anonymous,TWO SCOOPS OF JUSTICE.png,nWa/B1BvUmEK+twkUWY+9g==,,,1503005467 137964450,137976225,2017-08-17 21:36:19,">>137973615 City built by us - the Whites >>137975553 lol @ nigger. You put Anglo criminals into a poisonous desert and you get a really nice society, a negro subhuman collective will achieve nothing on the other hand no matter how hard it tries",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503005779 137964450,137976330,2017-08-17 21:36:54,">>137975553 Black people are statistically more likely to commit violent crimes. Yes or no?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503005814 137964450,137976558,2017-08-17 21:38:36,">>137975553 >TL;DR - It's all false and done completely wrong in a flawed environment and even that flawed environment still shows no sign of racial differences. >>137973615 >Even my own orthodontist is black, he makes more money than me by quite a fair bit. >Race realism is a myth, nobody is shacked by their fate or genes, some may have a possibility for potential success based upon their family. >>137969329 >Whats the problem with eugenics and murder when they are subhuman? >>137967388 >Haha fuck you faggots, you guys are fucking gay, I bet you let niggers fuck your wives, how is liberalism going to stop all the mudslims, niggers, and jews from taking over? You have a rather bizarre and contradictory set of views, and you change icons in an inconsistent way. Not sure if trolling.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503005916 137964450,137977038,2017-08-17 21:42:34,">let's give companies more power >Companies are banning you fuckers left and right",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1503006154 137964450,137977373,2017-08-17 21:45:11,">>137977038 >Implying jewgle and all the other propaganda companies aren't ZOG owned and operated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503006311 137964450,137977424,2017-08-17 21:45:28,">>137977038 >let's raise funds to advance our common interests, just without leftist ooga-booga More like this",,Anonymous,,,,,1503006328 137964450,137977954,2017-08-17 21:49:54,">>137974915 >Chinese people can be tall sometimes Yes but unless it runs within the person's family genetics it's not very likely to happen, just as if being successful had to do with genetics and not environmental issues then we wouldn't ever see rich people with retarded kids or lower class kids turn into millionaires, and kings and queens would be the best suit for our leaders rather than non related elected officials. When you are born your mind is almost completely blank beyond a few instincts, it's your environment that dictates who you become, if you live in a crime ridden ghetto with a lot of people looking to take advantage of you and make you do their dirty work, no genetic superiority magic is going to save you, only what your parents and other people around you taught you is going to save you. >>137976330 No, black people who grow up in a certain social environment and location are more likely to commit violent crimes, this is the same with latinos or whites. >>137976558 It was b8 my friendo.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503006594 137964450,137979621,2017-08-17 22:02:40,">>137977954 >instincts, it's your environment that dictates who you become Flat earth tier retards",,Anonymous,,,,,1503007360 137964450,137980171,2017-08-17 22:06:55,">>137979621 >You are literally unchanged by the world around you, and destined to act similar to your friends and develop similar interests because of genetics, people who become depressed or suicidal weren't effected by their environment or events around them, they just genetically wanted to kill themselves. What did he mean by this? Yeah nah I'm the flat earth tier retard here, yup.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503007615 137964450,137980717,2017-08-17 22:11:12,"Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years, so in order to fill this void in my being I need to exert my internal problems onto other human beings by participating in slavery called ""government"". I actually care about people so much I think they should be required by gun point to help fund roads! So they can get to work of course... I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, and drugs. Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care of them anyway. I've never seen a pothole in my life.",,Anonymous,1476928785674.jpg,hqYr8pqIIeVpyxaKA93B5Q==,US,,1503007872 137964450,137981076,2017-08-17 22:13:52,">>137980171 >dat lack of the coherent line of thinking Schizo shitskins not even once. Yeah bro, genetics doesn't affect your immune system, intelligence, height, longevity at all",,Anonymous,,,,,1503008032 138018709,138018709,2017-08-18 04:39:04,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL Voluntary fascism edition This thread is for the discussion of capitalism, libertarianism, conservatism, anarcho-capitalism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Recommended reading http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg.png,EuWbPq02XTvjWXslLGhJtg==,AU,,1503031144 138018709,138018741,2017-08-18 04:39:34,first for friendship,,Anonymous,gadsden-nazi.jpg,ZEQFGIArhHfoDarPrHyW7Q==,AU,,1503031174 138018709,138018851,2017-08-18 04:41:01,"There is no fascist libertarian friendship, fascists want to ""nationalise"" industries, libertarians want to deregulate.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503031261 138018709,138018925,2017-08-18 04:42:05,">>138018851 Hey there lefty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503031325 138018709,138019044,2017-08-18 04:43:37,">>138018851 fascists don't know that that's what fascist means we'll lie and tell them they agree with us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503031417 138018709,138019170,2017-08-18 04:45:34,">>138018851 True, but we share many common interests. We're both pro-sovereignty, pro-gun, pro-Europe, anti-EU and anti-communism. There are even more overlaps between Hoppean libertarians and fascists. Pro-family, pro-tradition, anti-homosexuality etc.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503031534 138018709,138019187,2017-08-18 04:45:49,LIBERLAND :3,,Anonymous,ycsajjb6am.jpg,r6DPeJO1IKU6ahotwU6qoQ==,,,1503031549 138018709,138019218,2017-08-18 04:46:23,">>138018851 Uh you sure? I know of one fascist who explicitly stayed the fuck out of the economic affairs of his country.",,Anonymous,pinochet1.jpg,BoSqtyoq+yGe+RLFZcaLfQ==,US,,1503031583 138018709,138019249,2017-08-18 04:46:53,">>138019187 remove croat",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503031613 138018709,138019398,2017-08-18 04:48:52,">>138018925 Y u mean? I understand left libertarianism, in fact it has more in common with fascism than ancap does easily, that doesn't make me a lefty. Left libertarianism makes most sense with the fascist idea of cells or sub groups of society and the idea is basically to do the opposite of what Marxists did to the family/community/church. Ancap, the only libertarianism /pol/ is okay with, at best creates syndicates. >>138019044 Fascism is actually a broad philosophy, which is why plenty of fascist states are just authoritarian centrism. >>138019170 Literally all reactionary issues, everyone not wilfully ignorant for revolutionary reasons, believes all that, everyone else has brainwashed themselves. Why are lefties so obsessed with brainwashing and social engineering? That's right, because that's the only way extreme leftism works. >>138019218 Fascist elements, not really a fascist. I see his obsession with image, but can't see much more.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503031732 138018709,138019401,2017-08-18 04:48:56,">>138018851 This man is correct. Remove An-caps.",,Anonymous,gassing black and yellow an-cap chus.png,znRanHMR1M7ZAQOcxQUtZg==,,,1503031736 138018709,138019545,2017-08-18 04:50:53,Get off my property,,Anonymous,,,US,,1503031853 138018709,138019640,2017-08-18 04:52:21,">>138019401 ..what? No? Fuck, kill yourself boot licker. Just find something acceptable that's actually designed to creep towards the libertarian extreme without degeneracy or literally nothing more than lip service to it. The smaller the government, the fewer taxes need to be raised and the more entitled I am to say. Please get the fuck away from me.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503031941 138018709,138019718,2017-08-18 04:53:43,">>138018851 Fascism isn't one single thing, cunt. Whats central to Fascism rather than various economic policy is always culture. Restoration of tradition and culture it the vital cornerstone because these things are roots of human group behavior. Being a Fascist means protecting your people from threats, and while its true that various forms of Fascism have nationalized industry, it is not at all requisite. I'm entirely in favor of a minimalist government. I'd support a virtually free market, but I'd have no problem with regulation and state authority if it were best for my people at that given time. I'm not concerned with a specific financial ideology, I'm only concerned with the best outcome for my nation and countrymen. >>138019044 Read a book.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503032023 138018709,138019783,2017-08-18 04:54:45,">>138018851 >implying I wouldn't run my ancap city state land development with the prerequisite of signing an agreement to live in psuedo-fascist state love it or be physically removed you don't tell me what to do",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503032085 138018709,138019843,2017-08-18 04:55:42,">>138019783 >forced to accept authoritarianism What?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503032142 138018709,138020037,2017-08-18 04:58:40,">>138019783 >implying I wouldn't run my ancap city state land development with the prerequisite of signing an agreement to live in psuedo-fascist state These sort of cooperative mini governments are an inevitable consequence of true anarchy. It would be the rise of city states again. I've got absolutely no problem with that whatsoever, especially if it were racially homogeneous. Lack of racial tension makes cooperation and peaceful relations with neighbors much more likely. >>138019843 A voluntary contract is not force. Don't live on his private property if you don't want his rules.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503032320 138018709,138020039,2017-08-18 04:58:44,">>138019843 Do you even hoppian libertarianism bro? >forced to accept authoritarianism No. One would be allowed to leave it if you so wish.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503032324 138018709,138020329,2017-08-18 05:02:39,"Chill guys, in 10 years we will have a white covenant community. Border wall, armed populace, free market. No other country will be able to compete.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503032559 138018709,138021101,2017-08-18 05:13:41,"Currently reading Hoppe's ""A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism"", about 60 pages in. Pretty good, I like his psychological analysis and his concept of ""natural assets"" and ""psychic income"".",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503033221 138018709,138022628,2017-08-18 05:36:19,">>138019401 wow check out this BASED non-degenerate NatSoc art",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503034579 138018709,138024421,2017-08-18 06:02:18,Can you tell me what does libertarian mean?,,Anonymous,,,,,1503036138 138018709,138024866,2017-08-18 06:08:32,">>138021101 When you're finished, if you want to delve into something less explicitly political, I'd recommend Carlyle's On Heroes, Hero-Worship, and the Heroic in History. Understanding people through driving economic factors and how they influence behavior by rewarding or punishing it is vital when navigating the world today, but I feel theres something much more beneath the surface. A more esoteric understanding of the human spirit and what appeals to it can also explain a lot in the modern world. After all understanding people is key to understanding their ideas. >>138022628 Don't fall for bait from furry shitposters. >>138024421 Extremely high personal liberty, extremely limited federal government. Thats the gist of it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503036512 138018709,138025020,2017-08-18 06:10:49,"PFS meeting in a few days, which speech are you looking forward to the most? hardmode: no Hoppe or Korwin Mikke",,Anonymous,erbrrartna.png,uXhIYSXTCJN0cIoHRVg1PQ==,DE,,1503036649 138018709,138025064,2017-08-18 06:11:33,">>138025020 hmm it's actually a month, whatever",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1503036693 138018709,138025162,2017-08-18 06:13:03,I got proof that ANTIFA was planning on starting violence 3 days before the protest!,,Anonymous,loloss.jpg,3AIGdUkUrDZJb09RZq6tGw==,US,,1503036783 138018709,138025409,2017-08-18 06:16:44,">>138025020 Political Correctness in Medical Journals is right up my alley.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503037004 138018709,138027532,2017-08-18 06:49:09,">>138025020 >Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Libertarianism and the ""Alt-Right""",,Anonymous,oh my.jpg,C3TFzqjUVvk0p4Vf2y03Ow==,AU,,1503038949 138018709,138028064,2017-08-18 06:56:21,">>138025020 Keir Martland probably, seems like a good talk. Maybe he'll mention the Republic of Cospaia.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503039381 138018709,138029773,2017-08-18 07:19:56,">>138018851 >we're both retarded but they are a different kind of retarded sounds about right",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1503040796 138018709,138032482,2017-08-18 07:55:44,">>138024421 Personally I'm a leaf so the Leaf Libertarian Party stands for: >Remove trade barriers between provinces in canada >Repeal and replace the Carbon tax. >Privatize airports and travel to invite competition and make prices go way down >Fairer gun laws >Remove the dairy and maple cartels from controlling the industry >Remove supplier taxes that double the price of dairy and meat products. (4l of milk here is 5$ cdn, should be 2.50$) >Remove useless government boards such as the Canadian Wheat board that taxes farmers insane amounts despite having over 100 million at their disposal. >Allow you more freedom with your own private property >Open trade with as many countries as possible >End Corporate welfare >Bring corporate tax and farm tax from 15% to 10% >Allow provinces to handle their Healthcare and not allow Ottawa to dabble in it, it's created a cluster fuck of a mess. Overall it's just about giving people more freedom and the freedoms that are written on the constitution.",,Anonymous,1503048441630.jpg,U0K19u13YQwDZXRZjmburA==,,,1503042944 138018709,138032978,2017-08-18 08:02:11,">tfw generally dislike niggers but when I see someone good I feel bad I am not fit for the race war",,Anonymous,,,,,1503043331 138018709,138035240,2017-08-18 08:31:10,">>138018709 >/lolbertarian/ general https://dividuals.wordpress.com/2017/07/17/why-does-libertarianism-feel-so-20th-century/",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1503045070 138018709,138035751,2017-08-18 08:37:16,">>138032978 >tfw seeing photos of blacks in the 1950s they were so normal they had families",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503045436 138018709,138035915,2017-08-18 08:39:29,">>138035240 How about you summarize that instead of forcing me to read some shitty blog post?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1503045569 138018709,138035951,2017-08-18 08:39:56,">>138035751 They were somewhat better than today, but their community still had tons of issues. Even MLK had to give a speech about how blacks were committing the majority of violent crime in an area where he was visiting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503045596 138018709,138036402,2017-08-18 08:45:43,">>138035951 Imagine the United States never went liberal, never created the welfare state and never implemented affirmative action. Everybody would've slowly segregated, nobody would be leeching resources of anyone else and people would be forced to work hard. Over the centuries Africans would eventually build up their human capital and leave behind their ancestral culture. They would accumulate wealth and become normal humans.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503045943 138018709,138037236,2017-08-18 08:55:34,">>138036402 Imagine if we never kept slaves in the US at all. I doubt they'd ever become equal peers, I don't see the role of genetics in culture being a trivial thing. They would have been better off returning to their homeland, even if they were taken as slaves by another tribe again. They should self determinate, live with their own kind, free from outside influence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503046534 138018709,138037586,2017-08-18 09:00:07,">>138019170 >fascism >pro-gun *pro-military if anything Taking away the guns from the people to establish state authority is an essential part of fascism. ""libertarian fascism"" is an oxymoron. Being nationalist doesn't make you a fascist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503046807 138018709,138037644,2017-08-18 09:01:02,">>138037586 >Taking away the guns from the people to establish state authority is an essential part of fascism. Fallacious.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503046862 138018709,138037716,2017-08-18 09:02:05,">>138018709 WEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,IMG_0756.jpg,P7+/EwoV3yJs7/17xS6Ezg==,US,,1503046925 138018709,138037717,2017-08-18 09:02:05,">>138024866 Were you introduced to Carlyle via Mencius Moldbug/NRX?",,Anonymous,freddy.jpg,sqIiRkkNO3W9XLbEWhrAPA==,,,1503046925 138018709,138037787,2017-08-18 09:03:01,">>138037644 What is your definition of fascism? Was Germany and Italy ""not real fascism""?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503046981 138018709,138037905,2017-08-18 09:04:32,">>138018709 Physically remove communist.",,Anonymous,16786786786788.jpg,t8ikqmDbX2wKgC++P8uXYQ==,,,1503047072 138018709,138038033,2017-08-18 09:06:19,">>138037586 >>138037787 Germany didn't take people's guns, only Jews and Communists couldn't own guns. They were teaching the Hitler Youth to shoot rifles, you think they were anti gun lol? Europe never has and never will have a gun culture like the US. They're completely different. In Europe the only people who have or want a gun (until recently) are people who actually use them, like hunters.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503047179 138018709,138038110,2017-08-18 09:07:16,">>138037236 Yeah, ideally, but there are 37 million of them. Our best bet is abolishing the federal government. That would allow us to end the welfare state and also establish a de facto white ethnostate. >>138037586 Nazi citizens had gun rights. And modern fascists/natsocs want gun rights.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503047236 138018709,138038155,2017-08-18 09:07:59,">>138018741 Mmmm ya",,Anonymous,IMG_0807.png,2e9zJZHDPBynRprxhlGxKA==,US,,1503047279 138018709,138038169,2017-08-18 09:08:07,"Know your enemy Judaism=Communism",,Anonymous,1501565355857.png,EQfiBhQKoRvVDJEyem3Rgw==,,,1503047287 138018709,138038510,2017-08-18 09:12:07,">If the government gets torn down, private businesses will step in with the best interest of the people in mind! Ancaps actually believe this, lol.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503047527 138018709,138038709,2017-08-18 09:14:17,">>138038510 Go back to your gulag and starve.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503047657 138018709,138038900,2017-08-18 09:16:20,">>138037717 I actually found the book purely by chance in my school library when I was a kid. >>138037787 Fascism is better viewed as a philosophy or all encompassing worldview instead of one political ideology. Its homogeneous, not necessarily supremacist, there is respect for hierarchies and the natural world. A certain sense of aesthetic is also central to it, and is largely responsible for the veneration of traditional architecture, fine art, iconography showing strength. Mussolini's party created what he manifested from this Fascist worldview. Mosley had different ideals and values, but it was still rooted in the same place. The impetus for industry serving the people was being for the greater good, and thats the core of it. Taking control of and regulating industry isn't the underlying theme, the theme is doing whats best for your own people. A Fascist government could be very protectionist, they could nationalize industry, they could be free market. So long as the government was addressing threats and maintaining the heritage of the people it would be consistent.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503047780 138018709,138038931,2017-08-18 09:16:40,">>138018709 >2017 >thinkin capitalism will value tradition and morals over maximum profits (globalism a la communism) fuckin my shit up while fucking my shit up.gif",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503047800 138018709,138039053,2017-08-18 09:17:59,">>138038931 Is tradition valuable? Is there demand for tradition and morality?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503047879 138018709,138039066,2017-08-18 09:18:11,">>138038709 Can't even answer with a proper explanation on why ancap would work, only with memes as expected.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503047891 138018709,138039259,2017-08-18 09:20:18,">>138039066 Ok listen closely now Jew boy. I want you to eat shit and die",,Anonymous,,,,,1503048018 138018709,138039373,2017-08-18 09:21:40,">>138039259 Do I really need to write the same thing twice? Jesus you guys are easy",,Anonymous,,,,,1503048100 138018709,138039427,2017-08-18 09:22:17,">>138038510 If there were no government, no laws protecting IP, no law enforcement preventing actual free market commerce then we could form our own city states. We could totally balkanize and merely form contractual relationships with clear cut end dates, clear cut conditions. We could compete against an established monopolistic power by whatever subversive or overt tactics allowed us to succeed by market values. There are books that explore this concept at length and actually show the economic theory and models behind it. Its not just some shaky theory.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503048137 138018709,138039530,2017-08-18 09:23:26,">>138039053 Whatever is profitable is malleable. Capitalism has used propaganda, monopolies and violence to reprogram the individual into a a consuming commodity. Your ideology is in a vacuum and ignorant of history. tradition= fast food, single motherhood, deadbeat dads cuz toxic masculinity still around n shit, one race, divorce, violence is bad homie morality= whatever supports the current societies myth and god... MONEY.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503048206 138018709,138039761,2017-08-18 09:26:19,">>138039530 So there is no demand for tradition? What about your own? What about mine? What is stopping us from using contracts to organise our private property in a way that protects and perpetuates our tradition? The government. The government has a monopoly on governance.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503048379 138018709,138040088,2017-08-18 09:30:15,">>138039427 There are ""established economic studies"" that prove every theory, but why would you think that business owners would be any kinder to you than the government of today? With noboy keeping those with money in check, what would stop the owners of the large businesses to buy police? The police of today is run by the government, so if government is no longer a ruling factor there would still be people willing to work as police for whoever pays the most. No government = those with money will rule, and why wouldn't they use that rule to get more money? People aren't exactly known to be civil with eachother when there aren't police around to stop them. It only takes one person to start using police/military forces as their own enforcers for everybody who can to start doing the same.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503048615 138018709,138040327,2017-08-18 09:33:06,">>138039259 Am kike and I agree. Burn the commie.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503048786 138018709,138040444,2017-08-18 09:34:25,">>138039761 Tradition doesn't make profit in capitalism. Capitalism will always devolve into monopolies which seek maximum profits through internationalist markets. What is stopping us? Corporations which beat us to it",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503048865 138018709,138040445,2017-08-18 09:34:25,">>138039427 Let me also offer you a meme that has a good point",,Anonymous,Ancap lol.jpg,lgXbkBK6Ixlg/fqWGLbHMw==,,,1503048865 138018709,138040687,2017-08-18 09:37:26,">>138040088 Its not that AnCaps think business owners are going to be kind, generous, or moral. Its that they don't want anyone to have a monopoly on force that secures their position of power and stifles competition. The government can only be corrupt if it has some level of power to wield and misuse. With no IP laws, no patent trolling, I could start my own manufacturing plant and produce a 1:1 clone of my competitor's product. If I want to be more successful than they are I need to market my product better. If the competition matches my marketing then I need to find some other venue to make my product more appealing by lowering price, diversifying, or by increasing the value of my brand itself by being ethical. Its a fact that people love ethical businesses. People right now voluntarily pay more money for ""harm free"" cosmetics, so called eco friendly ""green"" products, we love things that are recycled and have reduced environmental impact. These things are good PR, they make people feel good about supporting that brand. Thats how you compete as an AnCap. A race to the bottom doesn't work when there is no state protection. >>138040445 Why employ children when automation and a skeleton crew of skilled labor would be more efficient?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503049046 138018709,138040740,2017-08-18 09:38:11,">>138032482 >Replace the Carbon Tax Just Repeal fellow leaf I'm also down for just removing welfare all together t. manitoban",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503049091 138018709,138040799,2017-08-18 09:38:50,">>138040444 Also, you will get pretty much everyone around us to boycott us because of the eternal need to virtual signal. Becasue we go against the established TRADITION and MORALITY.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503049130 138018709,138040833,2017-08-18 09:39:15,This the thread I needed.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1503049155 138018709,138041015,2017-08-18 09:41:16,">>138040444 >>138040799 If there was no federal government and I set up a traditional community where laws were derived via contract, would there be people who would want to join? Yes, and you have already admitted that by your question. There is demand for tradition, as proved by you. Currently it can only be fulfilled within families, churches and neighbourhoods. In a free society we would be able to voluntarily establish communities that would exclude all anti-traditional individuals (reverse boycotting, if you will).",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503049276 138018709,138041252,2017-08-18 09:43:54,">>138040740 The Libertarian party also says they'd lower the intake of refugees and immigrants, and get our soldiers out of useless wars that don't directly effect Canada. I don't understand why they aren't more popular after reading all of this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503049434 138018709,138041293,2017-08-18 09:44:17,">>138040687 >neoloiberalism bro >still fascist though! dont 4get it Your model is a pipe dream. If manifested it will not hold water because of current moral and tradition and most importantly the market. Cheap products is always the way ti make profits. Cheap, shoddy, and propagandized commodities.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503049457 138018709,138041703,2017-08-18 09:48:07,">>138041015 There is no such thing nor will there ever be a free society. there is only power. Corporations will initiate force through direct and i indirect influence. As they have done for decades now. The federal government is a front for international finance and multi national corporations; even the unions are of this sort by now. Your model is utopian and not a plan for action. This is the problem with intellectualism.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503049687 138018709,138041838,2017-08-18 09:49:24,">>138041293 That isn't my model, that an example of AnCap put into practice. I'm not an AnCap myself, though I favor a freer market than what we have in the US today. Cheap products make profit, no one would deny that. AnCap theory doesn't say that cheap and inferior products would simply cease to exist. It says that without government interference there would be more competition to these cheaper good and services. It is inevitable that when one alternative is inferior, and one is superior, the superior will be more highly sought. Unless that superior good/service is priced out of the market it would end up becoming the standard, as that would be the new model to emulate for other competing businesses.Laws of supply and demand still applying.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503049764 138018709,138042817,2017-08-18 09:59:11,">>138041703 >Corporations will initiate force through direct and indirect influence. Doesn't it then logically follow that other corporations will offer defence services? Wouldn't there be universal demand for defence and security? Again, you prove my point by agreeing that there is a widespread demand for these things. We both want tradition and defence. What is wrong or impossible about people voluntarily cooperating in order to provide these things? Why do you want to prevent that?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503050351 138018709,138043510,2017-08-18 10:06:19,">>138041838 So what if useless products can become cheaper? do you think they will sell to you on a fair price? No. It is as lowest as they can manipulate the masses to buy it. It is anti nation because it isn't that the capitalist choose to not be part of it all. It is because there is essentially no connection to the people and their purpose.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503050779 138018709,138043706,2017-08-18 10:08:04,">>138018709 >working with nazi leftists Fuck off traitor",,Anonymous,,,,,1503050884 138018709,138043867,2017-08-18 10:09:36,">>138040444 >capitalism spawns monopolies Learn economics and then come debate us",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503050976 138018709,138043939,2017-08-18 10:10:12,">>138043510 Companies would price products at what the market deemed to be fair or people simply wouldn't buy them. Someone would fill the demand in the market and offer the same product or competing service at a price point compelling to the consumer. I don't understand what your point is. >>138043706 >Nazi >leftist Don't regurgitate this nonsense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503051012 138018709,138044064,2017-08-18 10:11:26,">>138043867 Corporations will always spawn a state or system of the like to monopolize on power.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503051086 138018709,138044127,2017-08-18 10:12:01,">>138043939 >Nazi >leftist National Socialist German Workers' Party: >socialist >workers",,Anonymous,,,,,1503051121 138018709,138044211,2017-08-18 10:12:54,">>138043939 >what the market deemed to be fair Thanks for proving my point. Plutocracy is your god.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503051174 138018709,138044338,2017-08-18 10:14:02,">>138044064 Power tends to consolidate, this is true, but with no monopoly on force held by the government there can still be more market competition. >>138044127 I know exactly what your fallacious reasoning is. You don't understand what the terms left and right mean. >>138044211 Are you saying you want the government to dictate pricing? I don't understand what you're saying.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503051242 138018709,138044697,2017-08-18 10:17:25,">>138043706 Calling national socialists ""leftists"" isn't really accurate. Economically they are only socialists to the degree of the welfare state. They're about as socialistic in economics as democratic socialists. In every other field (politics, culture, family, hierarchy) they are right-wing.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503051445 138018709,138044864,2017-08-18 10:19:07,">>138044338 >You don't understand what the terms left and right mean. pic related >>138044697 National Bolsheviks are also traditional but they are still filthy commies",,Anonymous,BJD5KflCQAEi7HY.jpg,0WEa5ywV3PJte/s7v+PWZg==,,,1503051547 138018709,138045148,2017-08-18 10:21:39,">>138044697 They're called the third position specifically because central principles of the ideology span both left and right. The term radical centrist is also used to describe them. >>138044864 You just posted a picture proving yourself wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503051699 138018709,138045417,2017-08-18 10:24:30,">>138045148 >radical centrist xD",,Anonymous,15782081_1028272073986291_2115093934_n.jpg,FRZW34qAxlYBXmFgZXd5rA==,,,1503051870 138018709,138045622,2017-08-18 10:26:15,">>138044864 They simply aren't left-wing. Businesses are still private, incomes are private, there's gun ownership, full personal property etc. In a fair analysis would you say that property in Nazi Germany was more privately owned or more socially owned? I've never seen a national socialist talk about seizing the means of production.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503051975 138018709,138045779,2017-08-18 10:27:44,">>138045417 They are ideological center on the left-right axiom. You just posted a picture clearly showing this after you tried to characterize them as being left. You proved yourself wrong with your own evidence. Stop shitposting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503052064 138018709,138046149,2017-08-18 10:30:50,">>138044338 I am saying society requires the state to be a moral and tradition overseer on the market. Markets do not care about the people in fact today its proponents work with the state to make sure you aren't healthy and at best die early so government does not have to pay anything for your family. Money is a dangerous phenomena and it has no reason to be overly individualized if you care at all about a nation.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503052250 138018709,138046330,2017-08-18 10:32:24,">>138046149 Why is the state more moral than individuals privately cooperating?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503052344 138018709,138046359,2017-08-18 10:32:37,">>138045622 Do you ever heard about IG Farben, Krupp or Deutsche Erd- und Steinwerke GmbH? Bussines could be private but still you must do what government tells you to produce or make. Thats how autarky works.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503052357 138018709,138046398,2017-08-18 10:33:02,/lrg/ threads are the only ones worth visiting.,,Anonymous,elle democracy.jpg,qxLHG/8VFfY/xEJTQzWd7w==,,,1503052382 138018709,138046464,2017-08-18 10:33:33,">>138046149 How do you ensure the government is moral and traditional? What if there are no moral and traditional candidates to vote for, and you're shoehorned into supporting someone just so a slightly worse person doesn't win power? That is the problem with government having a monopoly on force.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503052413 138018709,138046479,2017-08-18 10:33:40,">>138046149 Also, Business cutthroat against other businesses and many monopolize on this. Such is the fruits of your kike freedom.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503052420 138018709,138046488,2017-08-18 10:33:45,Muh voluntary slavery!,,Anonymous,ayncap.jpg,BTRLH87y0b2PuIH17KtOIQ==,,,1503052425 138018709,138046638,2017-08-18 10:34:52,">>138046330 (((individuals privatelty cooperating)))x WEW",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503052492 138018709,138046696,2017-08-18 10:35:20,">>138040088 Buy police you say?",,Anonymous,robocop-Taurus-copcar-2.jpg,BN9rl9EcrWSbbzp1G49+lA==,,,1503052520 138018709,138046757,2017-08-18 10:35:48,">>138046359 Also don't forget they are also socialist because they are strong in their egalitarian believes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503052548 138018709,138046781,2017-08-18 10:36:02,">>138046359 That's socialistic yes, but it's still a mixed economy, and there are still other right-wing elements within the ideology. They're centrists. And that's a generous description. There's a reason why communists hate fascism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503052562 138018709,138046937,2017-08-18 10:37:13,"This thread is a giant bait. OP is a stormfaggot. Sage",,Sage,,,,,1503052633 138018709,138047106,2017-08-18 10:38:35,">>138046638 Yes, that's what private ownership is. Ownership via original appropriation or contract. Another question: what is your government currently doing for tradition? Mine's about to legalise homosexual ""marriage"". Private organisations like churches are far better defenders of tradition and morality than the state.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503052715 138018709,138047153,2017-08-18 10:38:59,">>138046464 By the monopolization of violence of a people with a common blood, origin, heritage and purpose. Consequently the restoration of a system that incentives class roles but more labor collaboration with the state in the form of unions. And reinstating a national bank.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503052739 138018709,138047174,2017-08-18 10:39:09,">>138046937 >oh no its the Stormfront boogeyman! Only people who have no idea what Stormfront actually is post this. Overwhelmingly likely that you're either leftypol or some reddit cuck who worships Cernovich.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503052749 138018709,138047210,2017-08-18 10:39:24,">>138046937 No, I used to be, I'm an anarcho-capitalist now",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503052764 138018709,138047394,2017-08-18 10:40:53,">>138046398 Damn this Elle Reeve girl has a point, better spread this on social media.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503052853 138018709,138047472,2017-08-18 10:41:27,">>138047106 >churches are better defender of tradition and morality The state should reflect this. Right now it is a apathetic about the people it subjugates and it is no longer human. thank plutocracy.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503052887 138018709,138047693,2017-08-18 10:43:22,">>138047472 No, thank the state for monopolising governance. You're not allowed to live in a community where tradition is maintained and enforced, because the state wants your resources and labour. Secede.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503053002 138018709,138047901,2017-08-18 10:45:16,">>138047153 I agree that societies need to be homogeneous to function well. Multiculturalism breaks down social trust, all groups have their own separate in-group preferences. A people with a shared ancestry and brotherhood would be less likely to engage in hostile action toward one another both economically and physically. Thats why I consider myself a Fascist, I believe blood and soil are the vital resources of a nation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503053116 138018709,138048091,2017-08-18 10:46:51,">>138047394 She is best girl.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503053211 138018709,138048101,2017-08-18 10:46:59,">>138047693 You keep saying STATE like if it is your new boogey man. The state is a tool that is there for you to manifest your will and maintain its trajectory for thousands of years. The market monopolizes on force and has corrupted the state and its real pupose. This is happening all around the world. And in the end no nation benefits but the nation inside nations: ((((dont chu liek all this freedom goy))))",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503053219 138018709,138048503,2017-08-18 10:50:20,">>138047901 Im glad we can agree. If you are fascist why do you support the economic system that has the least need to have a connection and a debt to the nation that propagates it.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1503053420 138018709,138049014,2017-08-18 10:54:56,Someone fill me in on An-Caps. To me it sounds like a market controlled government.,,Anonymous,,,,,1503053696 138018709,138049114,2017-08-18 10:56:03,">>138049014 more like separation of the market and the state",,Anonymous,,,,,1503053763 138018709,138049317,2017-08-18 10:57:54,">>138049114 What? capitalism is marketing n shiet",,Anonymous,,,,,1503053874 138018709,138049605,2017-08-18 11:00:19,">>138048503 I don't personally support AnCap, I am somewhat sympathetic however. I was just playing devil's advocate to keep the thread bumped. I'm personally in favor of some pretty wide economic restrictions on the market, and I'm not against taxation as a concept, I accept it as being part of the social contract. If I could I'd eliminate all existing US tax code, get rid of the IRS, institute flat tax rates. I want our borders tightly controlled to stop the influx of illegal immigrants, even if the wall is a mere symbol. I'd end all economic incentives for illegals, prevent them from getting drivers licenses, fine businesses for employing them, establish VoterID laws to keep them away from polls. Do everything possible to start restoring the country's identity. More so I'd establish programs that financially benefit white families. Tax credits to families having their first kid, successive tax breaks for each kid after. I want health savings accounts that the government matches like a 401K to help decrease the expenses of raising a child in today's world. In addition to that I'd end the federal reserve, personally I'd like to see a lot of them tried and execute, but the end goal is American people need the power to print money returned. I'd get rid of private international banks, and have each state have its own bank. Citizens of each state could even own shares in their respective banks, and be free to do business with banks in any other state. All in the name of return wealth and equity to our own people instead of foreign Jews.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503054019 138018709,138049731,2017-08-18 11:01:33,">>138049114 An-Cap sounds like a better way for (((them))) to control us",,Anonymous,,,,,1503054093 138018709,138050222,2017-08-18 11:06:03,"you guys are too cerebral for your own good. lefty retards all group together and celebrate communism and several other retarded ideologies and don't get into this purity spiraling bullshit. if we all could just get along, we would have an easier time. leftists are too stupid to get into the issues we get into. you're making it too easy to divide and conquer us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503054363 138018709,138050268,2017-08-18 11:06:29,">>138049605 id do the same and then expand the US territory in countries such as south africa who are killing whites and completely liberate the whites there from their government and other south african countries doing the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503054389 138018709,138050385,2017-08-18 11:07:41,">>138048101 So the state is always, everywhere corrupted by the market? You're basically saying that the state is fundamentally corrupt. I completely understand that corporations use the state to their advantage, that's why I want to abolish it. Again, what is wrong or impossible about people voluntarily cooperating in order to provide these things? Why doesn't the government allow me to have my own laws with my own people?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503054461 138018709,138050392,2017-08-18 11:07:44,">>138050268 I mean if we're going to go down this rabbit hole, we need to invade Canada before the Chinese buy up any more land there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503054464 138018709,138050873,2017-08-18 11:11:54,">>138049014 In an anarcho-capitalist society there would be private law. That is, laws would be derived from contracts. So yes, in a sense it would be privately owned governments. The term usually used is ""covenant communities"". Basically a voluntary microstate where you are required to agree to a contract before you join. This is the best way to exclude socialists from society and establish a white ethnostate.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503054714 138018709,138051116,2017-08-18 11:13:48,">>138050222 I was quite inviting with my OP and first post. This fag >>138018851 ruined it",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503054828 138018709,138051123,2017-08-18 11:13:55,">>138050392 Yeah, why not. But whatd we do with mexico and south america? I've only thought so much about invading countries like these.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503054835 138018709,138051269,2017-08-18 11:15:03,">>138048101 >Market monopolizes on force You mean the state creates monopolies through force by helping those with already strong economic power to never be challenged. They make use of central banking, state credit, regulations and laws to that end. Don't kid yourself into thinking that the individual has power over the state. Everyone act according to its own interest, give ""legimacy"" to one to start agression and you have the state in its glory.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1503054903 138018709,138051383,2017-08-18 11:15:56,">>138050873 Sounds like a dream that cant happen due to the fact we are humans",,Anonymous,,,,,1503054956 138018709,138051790,2017-08-18 11:19:33,">>138051383 How so? Weapons are pretty good at dealing with any humans who try to disturb the peace. The problem is that our current governments have gotten so large that they can stamp out anyone who tries to secede.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503055173 138018709,138051904,2017-08-18 11:20:25,">>138049731 they can't control you when you are in control of your destiny, and the free market enables that",,Anonymous,,,,,1503055225 138018709,138052524,2017-08-18 11:25:48,">>138051123 Mexico is the gateway, and they're not very stable. One little recession and they could go full blown Commie, and we'd have revolutionaries on our southern border. There is a latent danger in both Mexico and Canada given the political climate right now. Canada I feel would be far easier to deal with. Mexico's society from top to bottom is a complete mess. The rampant corruption, the cartels, their weird bastardized Catholicism. I don't exactly feel right with giving them foreign aid when that money is best used on our own people, and I don't like the idea of having our white people risk their lives policing that god awful desert on their behalf. The practical solution would be to make them close business partners and try to influence their culture in a similar direction as time goes on. If they had a military coup, killed the cartels, and started a solid Fashy propaganda campaign they'd probably be able to get the support of most people just be being anti corruption. Theres a ton of issues tied up in this one point. The cartels profit on the drug trade because the US consumes their product, but if we decriminalized all drugs at the federal level we'd lose mandatory minimum sentences used to put black gangs in prison. Trying to influence one would have a direct impact on the other. We don't want the cartels to destabilize Mexico, but we don't want black violent crime rates to rise in our inner cities either. We'd need to start lowering black birth rates.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503055548 138018709,138052631,2017-08-18 11:26:44,">>138051116 Be mad elsewhere, fascism is still an authoritarianism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503055604 138018709,138053095,2017-08-18 11:30:26,">>138052631 Fascism is only as authoritarian as it needs to be, it responds to the climate around it. When we're no longer under massive demographic threat and facing Islamic invasion we can be as free market as we like. Stop thinking whites need to be enemies long ideological lines. Differences of opinions on government won't change the reality that we're the global minority, and if we don't stick together we're all going to be destroyed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503055826 138018709,138053515,2017-08-18 11:33:36,">>138018709 Ancap ball is a meme that makes fun of you fags, why do I feel every libertarian cums whenever it sees one, I think that's unironically how their utopia is",,Anonymous,IMG_1857.jpg,Jm31izMP1qcdVpZibeuYMg==,ES,,1503056016 138018709,138055598,2017-08-18 11:50:32,">>138018709 I recently came up with an idea. Why don't we play both sides like the jews? Can we get away with injecting capitalist propaganda into left-wing ideas?",,Anonymous,IMG_1254.jpg,MRN7Cahdd7+TV1WgL9FQIQ==,US,,1503057032 138018709,138057291,2017-08-18 12:04:41,">>138055598 The Dems and disaffect shitlib youth are all devout Capitalists whether they know it or not. They love everything about consumerism. They love buying $6 coffee every single morning. They love buying $2,000 thin Apple laptops that perform worse than something half the price. They love buying clothing because of the brand name. They love buying the latest $700 phone, on contract, and paying down the sum for years. They love acquiring new things, taking pictures of things, then posting those pictures on line subtly encouraging all their like minded ilk to purchase the same things. They only think they hate Capitalism. Truth is they'd be living in hell without it, after all its the only thing they know.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503057881 138018709,138057697,2017-08-18 12:07:53,I have a date today and I'm scared she'll ask me my political views. How do say I'm a libertarian-monarchist without sounding like a complete retard? Also how to I say I only listen to Yung Lean and Bladee?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1503058073 138045535,138045535,2017-08-18 10:25:34,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: FREE CANTWELL EDITION,Anonymous,ancap andy.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,PT,,1503051934 138045535,138045801,2017-08-18 10:27:54,"Also those (((YouTube))) people took down the original Hoppewave video that I made with much love and care, saying it incited hatred and went against terms of use. Fortunately, some Anons have already re-uploaded it. It's a shame, the original had 17,000 views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA Thanks to the guy who re-uploaded it!",,Anonymous,1488739999641.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,PT,,1503052074 138045535,138046341,2017-08-18 10:32:28,">>138045535 Wherever am I, I must run free. Fuck Pinochet, authoritarian CIA Israel-lover puppet. And you OP, you're a statist cuck. Lets sing. https://youtu.be/w0m0hTrtlWM",,Anonymous,shay140.gif,5Za59A8swfuMvQ49V5DKJQ==,MX,,1503052348 138045535,138046360,2017-08-18 10:32:38,">>138045801 FREE CANTWELL! HE DIDN'T DO NOTHING!",,Anonymous,download.jpg,aJ4VpUG4Thge38k0y8k9Fw==,US,,1503052358 138045535,138046493,2017-08-18 10:33:50,">>138046341 >Mexican Libertarians I hope this doesn't have something to do with muh ""free migration""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503052430 138045535,138046562,2017-08-18 10:34:22,>>138046360,,Anonymous,cantwell.jpg,GsAicDPtPhMK+BqS836QrA==,PT,,1503052462 138045535,138046686,2017-08-18 10:35:16,">>138046493 No, but yes less trade regulations at the border.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1503052516 138045535,138046762,2017-08-18 10:35:51,">>138046686 End all state subsidy and maybe.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503052551 138045535,138046869,2017-08-18 10:36:41,">>138046341 You'd be a lot freer if you had a General too, you know? Also, I remember reading they painted an American flag over the Dukes's car. Fucking criminal.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503052601 138045535,138046992,2017-08-18 10:37:39,Also here's some Nick Land OC,,Anonymous,nick land accelerate.png,WleDgjIIu3urdv6R/MMhFA==,PT,,1503052659 138045535,138047244,2017-08-18 10:39:35,">privatise the welfare recipients as they are basically public property due to tax-funded programs and shit THIS AND MUCH MORE AT SLOVAKBRO'S ONE AND ONLY DUMBLR BLOG hans-hermann-hoppe.tumblr.com",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503052775 138045535,138047346,2017-08-18 10:40:29,">>138047244 Amazing, I should pay attention to your Tumblr wisdom more often.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503052829 138045535,138047398,2017-08-18 10:40:55,">>138046762 Subsides to business? They're almost non-existent in my country >>138046869 lel",,Anonymous,gaygenerallee.jpg,h0T9uIFHU5S4cfoh5IiOBA==,MX,,1503052855 138045535,138047410,2017-08-18 10:41:00,">>138046562 Oc",,Anonymous,MUHNAP.png,YKMhpCx9I/P9FFQtKb57Kg==,US,,1503052860 138045535,138047419,2017-08-18 10:41:05,">>138045801 .>fuck google desu",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503052865 138045535,138047551,2017-08-18 10:42:05,">>138047410 Awesome >>138047398 d-delete that, Paco pls",,Anonymous,hwhy.jpg,jO0oqL/3soad60cALQ4a5Q==,PT,,1503052925 138045535,138047640,2017-08-18 10:42:54,Who's gonna fix the potholes?,,Anonymous,,,,,1503052974 138045535,138047886,2017-08-18 10:45:09,">>138047640 I think you meant to ask: ""Who's gonna pozz my hole?"" And the answer is whomever else we physically remove from our covenant based on protection of family and kin.",,Anonymous,hoppe human trash.png,Qwszt9Py2Ku0oZvyZtPPxA==,SK,,1503053109 138045535,138047948,2017-08-18 10:45:35,">>138047640 You after you kill your boyfriend with AIDS and I buy the rights to your physical body and make you fix the potholes.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503053135 138045535,138048043,2017-08-18 10:46:27,">>138047886 Until you can properly answer this question with logic and reason, the libertarian movement will continue to be a joke. Sorry babes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503053187 138045535,138048187,2017-08-18 10:47:43,">>138048043 Ignore sodomite propositions for argument.",,Anonymous,IM A WOMON.jpg,/OfrQBOZ6LH0BbAB1esY2g==,SK,,1503053263 138045535,138048195,2017-08-18 10:47:52,The current pope is a major problem.,,Anonymous,communist-pope.jpg,EdlsIoqjbXqiwL9AYBSgOw==,,,1503053272 138045535,138048274,2017-08-18 10:48:31,">>138045535 is this the real /lrg/? the other one which is up doesn't seem to have the regular posters in it",,Anonymous,mc slave.jpg,hZDBj+ug1NIYcFqKbkSM/g==,,,1503053311 138045535,138048333,2017-08-18 10:48:59,"Also I've just noticed my ID. >31 GFs Cantwell's polygyny proposal got nothing on me.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503053339 138045535,138048346,2017-08-18 10:49:02,"Props to whoms't'd've'll made this coat of arms, it's beautiful.",,Anonymous,lrg coat of arms.png,GBimPiiG3tVle3O9heDI6A==,PT,,1503053342 138045535,138048517,2017-08-18 10:50:28,">>138048274 the OP in the other one seems to be quite incompetent, but oh well",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503053428 138045535,138048532,2017-08-18 10:50:39,">>138048346 My dude",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-02.02.35.jpg,QDfv/Oa8CgUpzMvzx3EG8g==,US,,1503053439 138045535,138048578,2017-08-18 10:51:03,">>138048195 How is it a problem? Religion is voluntary and He literally doesn't force anyone to believe/do what He preaches.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1503053463 138045535,138048592,2017-08-18 10:51:11,Who would do the roads?,,Anonymous,1503023517318.png,bk2dZCX3ud6mNsnYrYO/UA==,BR,,1503053471 138045535,138048619,2017-08-18 10:51:22,">>138048274 >>138048517 And he's not in our Discord, or so I think.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503053482 138045535,138048636,2017-08-18 10:51:32,">>138048592 Brazilian wage slaves",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503053492 138045535,138048682,2017-08-18 10:51:57,">>138048274 Wait, there was another one? Fuck, I should've checked the catalogue before I made this one. My bad, they are both real.",,Anonymous,anarcho-cute 3.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,PT,,1503053517 138045535,138048733,2017-08-18 10:52:22,">>138048592 >the asphalt jew baka desu senpai",,Anonymous,lrg no roads.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,SK,,1503053542 138045535,138048818,2017-08-18 10:53:05,">>138048619 >our >Discord Oh, this is cancer.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1503053585 138045535,138048827,2017-08-18 10:53:10,">>138048733 >no roads Explain it why",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1503053590 138045535,138048918,2017-08-18 10:54:02,">>138048818 You gotta stay on your side of the wall, Paco.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503053642 138045535,138048943,2017-08-18 10:54:15,">>138048682 No it is ok I like this one more, seems by the posts that the same people are in this one as always.",,Anonymous,elle reeve 2.jpg,NbR9t127dtOyydr9sDYHZg==,,,1503053655 138045535,138048948,2017-08-18 10:54:17,">>138048592 Pedro, your country is an example of why roads are evil. We'll use helicopters and jetpacks instead. Uma delícia!",,Anonymous,communist tears.png,Q8ooNsF/Rij0I0h0bZhtYQ==,PT,,1503053657 138045535,138048992,2017-08-18 10:54:44,">>138048918 I will always be Mexican, you will always be cancer. Simple.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1503053684 138045535,138049028,2017-08-18 10:55:05,">>138048943 She looks like a young transgender Hoppe with FAS. I hate her guts so much.",,Anonymous,1433.png,9RogssL4q/J5EqxEZxqPiA==,PT,,1503053705 138045535,138049074,2017-08-18 10:55:28,">>138048827 There is a correlation between the amount of roads and air pollution, which in turn creates more precipitation cores and brings irregular rain patterns, which have less space to soak into due to roads, so they create erosion. Highways also give kids autism.",,Anonymous,niggas wit autism.jpg,XKwxF0MPU3pCiJ3d4XGAnQ==,SK,,1503053728 138045535,138049213,2017-08-18 10:56:49,">>138048948 Roads are tools,tools can't be evil. >We'll use helicopters and jetpacks instead You know that you sounds stupid,right?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1503053809 138045535,138049224,2017-08-18 10:56:55,">>138048992 Mexican is cancer, so I wouldn't act like a winner in this situation if I were you. At least if cancer kills you, the dope pushers won't flay your face and literally skullfuck you alive. They might do that post-mortem, though.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503053815 138045535,138049522,2017-08-18 10:59:36,">>138049213 Of course I'm memeing. I think we've been asked this question so many times (mostly by trolls) that we also answer in a troll-ish attitude. Anyway, read The Privatization of Roads and Highways by Walter Block",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503053976 138045535,138049700,2017-08-18 11:01:16,">>138045535 Not enough of these anymore, it's nothing but slide threads for the past two weeks.",,Anonymous,1490274520643.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,,,1503054076 138045535,138049728,2017-08-18 11:01:30,">>138049028 I like her, for me she is really cute. but yesterday someone posted an older pic of her, where she looked exactly like hoppe just with long hair.",,Anonymous,hoppe1.png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,,,1503054090 138045535,138050015,2017-08-18 11:04:05,">>138049728 I dislike her because of her smug attitude with Cantwell and Spencer. And always trying to shoehorn some ""witty"" or clever rebuttal when they're talking. She's rude and deserves a bullet in her head.",,Anonymous,libertarian monarchism.png,gphNyPVGRaNtut2+/lmR5w==,PT,,1503054245 138045535,138050304,2017-08-18 11:06:48,">>138049074 You don't know what autism is, right?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1503054408 138045535,138050456,2017-08-18 11:08:21,">>138049028 She's so dumb, her interview with Spencer was embarrassing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503054501 138045535,138050488,2017-08-18 11:08:40,">>138050304 >1 post by this ID >literally only came here because he knew he could put his expertise on autism to good use Wow, seems like the Natty Socks won again. We ARE more autistic than them.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503054520 138045535,138050588,2017-08-18 11:09:20,">>138045801 Amazing",,Anonymous,1490566163055.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1503054560 138045535,138050739,2017-08-18 11:10:42,Uma Cecília!,,Anonymous,cecilia.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,PT,,1503054642 138045535,138050760,2017-08-18 11:10:53,">>138050015 I only saw what you can call smug in her facial expression in the last interview with chris where she talked with closed eyes as she asked him questions, but all the other times she looked innocent to me and I like those kind of girls. We all can have different tastes, because value is subjective and we are not some kind of egalitarian socialists.",,Anonymous,snek will not surrender.jpg,J8f4IICdM0OG4aeJlVYesg==,,,1503054653 138045535,138050807,2017-08-18 11:11:20,">>138045535 Mmm ya baby the government loves to fuck me and then throw me tocsode I hate but love it at the same time. Those pussies in the government can protect me that's all I want I don't want taxes down my throats it's just too big of taxes baby.",,Anonymous,IMG_0807.png,2e9zJZHDPBynRprxhlGxKA==,US,,1503054680 138045535,138050907,2017-08-18 11:12:09,">>138045535 Friendly reminder that anarcho-capitalism needs to be put on the ideological backburner until we have actually achieved some semblance of a libertarian society.",,Anonymous,1501467891001.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1503054729 138045535,138050912,2017-08-18 11:12:13,Have you guys ever revealed your ancap power level in public or to someone else IRL? How'd it go?,,Anonymous,trump election.png,a/XNkHQCmZ9vj3H0R9za6w==,PT,,1503054733 138045535,138050917,2017-08-18 11:12:16,">>138050739 Does she have a dick, looks barizilian to me. >>138050488 Just ignore the eternal german patriot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503054736 138045535,138050919,2017-08-18 11:12:17,">>138045535 guys, is there any point in being occupied with this ideology when there's actually no possibility in we seeing an ancap society in the future ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503054737 138045535,138051131,2017-08-18 11:13:59,">>138050912 To some people I have, but they're already radicalized peeps they didn't react much. As far as normal fags go I just say ""voluntary government"" and they don't hassle me with roads questions, and I can still be open and honest about my shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503054839 138045535,138051187,2017-08-18 11:14:21,">>138047640 The owners of the roads, whether they be the state or private companies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503054861 138045535,138051234,2017-08-18 11:14:46,">>138050912 >Have you guys ever revealed your ancap power level in public or to someone else IRL? How'd it go? Started talking about property rights and the free market, people hated me more than when I was literally quoting parts of the NSDAP party program back when I was an edgy teen.",,Anonymous,hbo qt2.jpg,VYeogJpQ0wQ9X+cRNOzcMA==,,,1503054886 138045535,138051475,2017-08-18 11:16:41,">>138050907 Why? Read SIEGE and What Must Be Done, faggot. It's not like the kikes are going to let you create a minarchist society.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503055001 138045535,138051549,2017-08-18 11:17:22,">>138050919 Sure you can see an AnCap society, just buy some land dude. It won't be Nation or worldwide, but it's pretty easy to setup a covenant in America at least.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503055042 138045535,138051562,2017-08-18 11:17:27,"what the fuck is with the lefts obsession with statues now. Why do they have to tear down irreplaceable monuments, and promote bullshit revisionist history, I'm fucking sick of it.",,Anonymous,fuckingstatuesman.png,NnkFjaV8Hg7rbY7FoGHZfw==,AU,,1503055047 138045535,138051622,2017-08-18 11:18:05,">>138050912 The typical libertysplaining about how taxation is pretty much the exact same thing as theft, how governments work in a way very akin to mafias and terrorist groups only that they have more resources to bullshit the people into supporting them... Always that I've done this I could get my point accross and most people would agree with me as long as I didn't label those ideas with anything, but with time I realized that proselytizing is pretty much an useless waste of time. The good thing about libertarianism is that it calls for individual action which can benefit you personally. No need to get through the cumbersome processes of politics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503055085 138045535,138051657,2017-08-18 11:18:24,">>138051562 They hate the West, whites and the culture and civilization we invented. We must do what must be done.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503055104 138045535,138051670,2017-08-18 11:18:30,">>138050919 Ancap may come eventually but the people are not ready for it yet. Let's just focus on, at the very least, becoming something like a Ron Paul republic (with strict immigration policy).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503055110 138045535,138051751,2017-08-18 11:19:11,">>138050919 Private cities might bring an opportunity, there are already some examples in the works, it's hard when dealing with governments, specially 3rd world countries, but someone will get it right eventually.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503055151 138045535,138051758,2017-08-18 11:19:14,">>138050917 Yes, she is Brazilian. Don't know if she has a dick or not, but looking at her face she isn't that really attractive. >>138050919 We're getting there, dude. >cryptocurrencies >startup societies attracting investors and becoming technologically feasible >percentage of Americans who believe democracy is necessary is at all-time low >the entire phenomenon of reactionary movements against democracy, migrants and political correctness >3D printing to bypass gun bans >socialist projects fail time after time and pretty much everyone except commies and socialists see it >both the right and the left hate each other; leftists are the ones who want secession this time (Calexit) If current trends maintain (which they will), hopefully Jewmerica will collapse and we'll get more, smaller, states. I'll glady move to New Hampshire or Texas when they achieve independence.",,Anonymous,rarest Hoppe.png,jcW2kw2VYjBTtZ35LyMwDQ==,PT,,1503055154 138045535,138051810,2017-08-18 11:19:44,">>138051670 what do you think about immigration policy in an ancap society btw ? who should decide who can/can't come ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503055184 138045535,138051878,2017-08-18 11:20:13,">>138051475 The goal is to convince hearts and minds. Ancap is too extreme at this moment in history. Later it can be reintroduced when people see that a libertarian society works and is actually superior.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503055213 138045535,138051980,2017-08-18 11:21:12,">>138051562 That'S what they always did they just grow stronger in the west, we barely have any memorials of ww1/ww2 anymore only on small graveyards on the countryside. And you can see how they push to also archieve this with memorials from imperial times.",,Anonymous,reichsf.jpg,dkQRn0qTVl3+Oqhb0GUc5Q==,,,1503055272 138045535,138052024,2017-08-18 11:21:35,">>138051810 The property owners, as always.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503055295 138045535,138052117,2017-08-18 11:22:21,">>138051810 Well in that case, it's up to the property owners or city-states.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503055341 138045535,138052133,2017-08-18 11:22:26,">>138050912 Constantly, well maybe not full ancap but Im pretty sure all my friends know I don't have appreciation for the government. Anyway, I told some ancaps before, let's not be like vegans, let's not make being ancap our only talking point, our only interest, be more than just an ideologue or people will get tired of your shit.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503055346 138045535,138052174,2017-08-18 11:22:44,">>138051751 Malta poster, best poster >>138051810 The property owner. I'd like to live in a city where pretty much all neighborhoods are segregated and only the ""public square"" (which would be privately funded, of course, by the money I pay to the corporation/defense agency) would be somewhat integrated, for ethnic restaurants and other small crap like that.",,Anonymous,[refutes praxeologically].png,WgtOR9jRb4blFTmClJrmmQ==,PT,,1503055364 138045535,138052295,2017-08-18 11:23:43,">>138052174 hello my brothers :D",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503055423 138045535,138052685,2017-08-18 11:27:11,">>138051562 it should be fairly obvious, some of the cynics here often state it, you may just ignore it. this is cultural/historical/identity destruction, pull down all the statues of the ""great"" men and leaders of the past (read: Europeans) and proclaim their actions racist and unacceptable. essentially this is the scrubbing clean of the past. Whites don't get a history they define, you enslaved millions of people, invaded tons of countries and abused their native populations, you stripped the resources from the land and stole it for yourself, much like you stole entire nations. Because all of this, you're racist, a bigot and a devil, if you choose to fight against the identity you've been handed, you're free to go stand with the nazis, nationalists and supremacists. Given enough time, Whites wont even know what they're fighting for or defending, they'll merely believe of themselves to be the villain of history. Nonsense? Look around, there are millions of Whites advocating for the mixing, reduction of or potentially even genocide (from some types) of the entirety of Whites for a litany of reasons. The brainwashing is working.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503055631 138045535,138052694,2017-08-18 11:27:16,">>138052024 >>138052117 >>138052174 oh you mean the owners of the property that the immigrants want to live in ? okay, so no ""government banning x kind of people from entering"" ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503055636 138045535,138052707,2017-08-18 11:27:22,"On that topic of revealing your power level: people know I don't like the government, since I complain about taxes, migration policy and the Left, but only my close friends know I'm full AnCap. I stopped arguing with leftists because I noticed that most people just revert back to what their original position was if they don't dedicate time and resources to read books and be informed.",,Anonymous,decentralization.png,/qpBa22Z7Qc9bb9cJhQGlA==,PT,,1503055642 138045535,138052736,2017-08-18 11:27:34,">>138051187 Who decides who's gonna own the state? Checkmate",,Anonymous,,,,,1503055654 138045535,138052893,2017-08-18 11:28:52,">>138052694 More like property owners banning x kind of people from entering.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503055732 138045535,138052984,2017-08-18 11:29:32,">>138052694 Correct. Property owners, driven by self-interest, will only admit those immigrants who they perceive to add value to their property. So bye bye niggers, terrorists and other subhuman trash who drive down property values.",,Anonymous,lrg vs lp.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,PT,,1503055772 138045535,138053200,2017-08-18 11:31:15,">>138051758 >she isn't that really attractive. But posing with a gadsden flag raises their sex appeal too bad that most females on your side are degenerate left- libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503055875 138045535,138053424,2017-08-18 11:32:54,">>138053200 We got Julie Borowski",,Anonymous,ancap andy again.jpg,nJJiImciDuRCuXn4r+lycw==,PT,,1503055974 138045535,138053433,2017-08-18 11:32:56,">>138053200 All the girls I spoke to in the Hoppe conference were right libertarians. All 8 of them :^)",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503055976 138045535,138053522,2017-08-18 11:33:39,Getting this tattoo on my right sholder next month. Looking forward to some leftist tears on that chain.,,Anonymous,102922 (1).jpg,tP/GZZzmCZZvOTkvVOgJsw==,DK,,1503056019 138045535,138053611,2017-08-18 11:34:10,">>138052893 >>138052984 but what if it's an empty land and they can build their own house there ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503056050 138045535,138053759,2017-08-18 11:35:29,">>138052707 You don't have to convert everyone, those ideas are the ideas of a minority and they will always be the static masses will never understand the full principle of those actions they will just follow who ever speaks in their favour or grants them security. It should not be the goal to reach out to the masses, but rather to form an elite to archieve a new society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503056129 138045535,138053855,2017-08-18 11:36:15,"Pitch libertarianism for me, /lrg/. Give it your best shot. Why is libertarianism better than national socialism or fascism?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503056175 138045535,138053976,2017-08-18 11:37:10,">>138053611 If no one owns it I don't care, just don't expect any inclusion on my part.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503056230 138045535,138053984,2017-08-18 11:37:15,">>138053611 No such thing as empty land unless we discover new planets/continents. At this moment, land belongs to those who have poured resources into them, the tax payers, they have the better claim in case we went ancap to what we know as public lands today, simply because they paid taxes for the protection against settlement.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503056235 138045535,138054081,2017-08-18 11:37:55,">>138053611 Then they do it. It's called homesteading/original appropriation. >>138053759 Exactly. We'll go a longer way by converting more tech moguls and businessmen then trying to convert the average pleb.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503056275 138045535,138054165,2017-08-18 11:38:37,"SAVE HISTORY! JEFFERSON LEGACY BEING TRASHED BY TAX FUNDED ACADEMIA!!! https://youtu.be/hCIc5ymZai4 SAVE COUNTRY, WEST, and MAGA !!!",,Anonymous,image.jpg,rOGhbERZ9EJOdWmoInk6Kw==,US,,1503056317 138045535,138054181,2017-08-18 11:38:45,">>138053855 Want to be a king? Dictate all the rules of your community? Set up a national socialist empire, anything goes as long as you don't tread on me Desu.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503056325 138045535,138054253,2017-08-18 11:39:19,">>138045535 If you institute this I will come into your house and use your toothbrush.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503056359 138045535,138054417,2017-08-18 11:40:34,"How does Hoppean anarchism differ from feudalism, typically we call a political system in which the owner of a territory is also its ruler, monarchism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503056434 138045535,138054542,2017-08-18 11:41:37,">>138053424 >We got Julie Borowski >don't know who she is >types her in in youtube >expecting an old hag from vhs tapes from the 90s >she is actually good looking wow >>138053433 >All 8 of them :^) Never even spoken to so many girls at once",,Anonymous,race war shirt.jpg,S9yd6GAArG2FweVOMgJXBg==,,,1503056497 138045535,138054761,2017-08-18 11:43:29,">>138054417 Contractual obligations subjected to third party arbitration. And planes.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503056609 138045535,138054815,2017-08-18 11:43:53,">>138054417 Not that different, maybe the difference would be that hoppean AnCap would be based on real contracts rather than muh implicit agreement to be ruled.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503056633 138045535,138054961,2017-08-18 11:44:58,">>138054417 to abolish the state one has to become the state himself L'etat ce moi.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503056698 138045535,138055158,2017-08-18 11:46:31,">>138053855 States cannot economically use resources because they do not operate under market signals, as Mises explained in the 20s, I believe, which led to the defeat of ""scientific socialism"". Fascism and national socialism are totalitarian and extremely collectivist, which lead to the erosion of proper justice and property rights and end in a ""might makes right"" society where the majority simply murders the minority. This violates argumentation ethics, which means that all governments of that nature are coercive and end in chaos. Libertarianism, on the other hand, leaves the economy to private property owners, leading to an optimal use of property and a maximization of wealth creation; prevents societal tensions and race riots/genocides because people can choose who they wish to associate with and no one is forced to live under the same banner; makes political rights irrelevant and instead turns them into personal liberties; allows the forming of white-only societies and covenants. That's it. Read Anatomy of the State by Rothbard and see how deep the rabbit hole goes. >>138054417 It's feudalism except people are free customers and not serfs. Also with modern technology and how we make business the king would most likely be replaced with a private defense agency.",,Anonymous,hoppe on nuclear family.png,Lo7/z0ZK4MrZZXXuqURbZg==,PT,,1503056791 138045535,138055409,2017-08-18 11:48:53,">>138054417 If you can leave private property without suffering any harm you're not a serf. You can have private cities, contracts stipulating any manner of rules established by the owner, but participation in everything is still totally voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503056933 138045535,138055474,2017-08-18 11:49:20,what do you guys think about the alt right ? what do you guys think of the 'pro-white ethnic welfare' thing that Jared Taylor proposes ?,,Anonymous,,,,,1503056960 138045535,138055572,2017-08-18 11:50:16,">>138051562 the left uses attacks on statues to demoralize society and separate whites from their heritage. Living within a block of this triggering machine taught me well",,Anonymous,CornwallisParkHalifaxNovaScotia.jpg,dAa3tXXj+s8AQfWvjeM7Sg==,CA,,1503057016 138045535,138055582,2017-08-18 11:50:23,">>138055474 I don't think Taylor supports any welfare at all. He's a paleoconservative - those are okay in our book. As for Spencer, not a big fan, but better than our actual enemies.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503057023 138045535,138055693,2017-08-18 11:51:25,">>138055474 The alt right is in a constant ideological struggle, no two alt-righters agree in anything other than their hate for the elites, MSM and leftism. Other than that, ideologically it's empty, and Hoppean libertarians like us should attempt to take over as much as possible.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503057085 138045535,138056044,2017-08-18 11:54:34,">>138055693 well no, alt right is white nationalism, as simple as that. it's the state being socialist but pro-white only",,Anonymous,,,,,1503057274 138045535,138056165,2017-08-18 11:55:39,">>138056044 No that's national socialism. Alt right is a big tent moment, including national socialists, conservatives and Libertarians as well as some other groups.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503057339 138045535,138056220,2017-08-18 11:56:05,">>138056044 That's just currently the loudest branch. Plenty of alt-righters hold libertarian values.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503057365 138045535,138056229,2017-08-18 11:56:08,">>138055474 I like them for people like cantwell and morrakiu. I liked spencer at first when he only ranted about jews, but he drifts more to the left.",,Anonymous,elle democracy.jpg,qxLHG/8VFfY/xEJTQzWd7w==,,,1503057368 138045535,138056348,2017-08-18 11:56:59,">>138055474 When White Identity groups talk about NatSoc or their ideal social safety net its worth noting at least as an American that their proposed policies would be a fraction of what we have currently. It'd still be a step towards smaller government. I think we can achieve the same level of effective safety by allowing people to build more equity, and keep more of their own earnings. However I understand where their sentiment comes from. >>138055693 They're pretty ideologically consistent on the points that they're White Nationalist, appose immigration, want border control, don't want a welfare caste of minorities, and want to increase outcomes for their own people as much as possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503057419 138045535,138056393,2017-08-18 11:57:23,">>138055474 The alt-right was not, contrary to what that idiot Spencer says, invented by him. Paul Gottfried and RamZPaul were already using that term before Richard appropriated the name and made it exclusively white nationalist/white supremacist. The alt-right that I know was always a loose and unstructured amalgamation of white nationalists, monarchists, neo-Confederates, libertarians and NRx people, exclusive to the chans and websites like AmRen or VDARE. The media needed a figurehead where none existed. Spencer saw this and ran with it. It's a shame because he turned what could have been a reactionary and fresh movement into neo-Nazi territory. Not that I have a problem with Nazis adding numbers to it, but marching around with swastikas and sieg heiling won't do much in 21st century America and Europe. Having that said, I like Jared Taylor, he's my favorite race thinker, and I wholeheartedly support his idea of a white ethnostate, and Taylor knows socialism is as bad for whites as it is for blacks. Spencer, on the other hand, is a socialist.",,Anonymous,drop it like it's hoppe.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,PT,,1503057443 138045535,138057325,2017-08-18 12:05:01,Unite the right should have fought the cops! Reactionary Revolution now!,,Anonymous,It_Might.png,9QVpGpzN3YUOpjs9GgplDA==,US,,1503057901 138045535,138057703,2017-08-18 12:07:55,">>138057325 wasn't the militia that was around one step before going in to get them out when the commies surrounded their allies at the park?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503058075 138045535,138057852,2017-08-18 12:09:11,"I have been reading Proudhon lately, as the origins of anarchism has always interested me from an etymological sense, Proudhon in the posthumously published ""Theory of Property"" states that: >property is the only power that can act as a counterweight to the State In his latter years, he got much closer to Bastiat's ideals and backpedaled in his pursue to forbid ground rent and interest of capital, he embraced inheritance as one of the foundations of family and society. Proudhon, the first self-proclaimed anarchist, became ancap as he got his head out of his ass with the years.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503058151 138045535,138058414,2017-08-18 12:13:49,guys what do you think about laws ?,,Anonymous,,,,,1503058429 138045535,138058771,2017-08-18 12:16:50,">>138058414 Laws are enforced by the owner of the respective property. Laws just because they are written on a piece of paper called the constitution are just worthless and holds no moral value.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503058610 138045535,138058794,2017-08-18 12:17:03,">>138058414 Not as effective at regulating behavior as social and cultural stigma.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503058623 138045535,138059429,2017-08-18 12:22:01,">>138058414 I like law. Private law.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503058921 138045535,138060113,2017-08-18 12:27:32,">>138058771 >>138058794 what if someone steals or murders ? what if someone needs something such as court justice system ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503059252 138045535,138060210,2017-08-18 12:28:21,">>138058414 Natural Law is good. Arbitrary legislation is not. >>138057852 Really? I'll have to read that up.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503059301 138045535,138060373,2017-08-18 12:29:40,">>138060113 people would leave his property and stop trading or interacting with him. He would die in a free society because those things aren't going well with european values. the best thing about free trad is that you can chose to not trade with some individiums.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503059380 138045535,138060543,2017-08-18 12:31:04,">>138060113 Demand makes supply. People don't like living without security. People will demand security services, which will spring up, from community watches to professional private defense firms.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503059464 138045535,138060692,2017-08-18 12:32:14,as it says,,Anonymous,hippity.jpg,NQtdd2UV1xuHrraGg+a5/g==,,,1503059534 138045535,138061189,2017-08-18 12:36:06,">>138060373 >european values these things can only be """"preserved"""" if there's some sort of centralized power like monarchy or supreme leader being authoritarian. capitalism and freedom alters culture",,Anonymous,,,,,1503059766 138045535,138061310,2017-08-18 12:37:00,">>138060543 what if those services do something that is unethical and interfering someone's rights ? who will police them ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503059820 138045535,138061529,2017-08-18 12:38:45,">>138061189 private property is the most authoritharian thing you can have. and while Race is more than just DNA a not unsicnificant part of your character is formed by your heritage.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503059925 138045535,138061530,2017-08-18 12:38:45,">>138061189 Why are you using the ancap flag if you're still asking us these basic bitch questions? Also there's a fucking book list you can read that answers all your stupid questions.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503059925 138045535,138061621,2017-08-18 12:39:29,">>138061530 Lol this. Basic bitches need to read.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503059969 138045535,138061934,2017-08-18 12:41:42,">>138061530 i am learning by discussing. >>138061529 no i mean look at how people are not marrying anymore, do you think it should be regulated ? do you think white people should be forced to go to church and get married so that european values can still be kept ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503060102 138045535,138062193,2017-08-18 12:43:45,">>138061934 No degenerates will die out conservative values prevailed in absent of a state and the welfare state is the final nail in the coffin, mix it with keyneianism and you are where were no today. also the church is a joke and the pope is a communist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503060225 138045535,138062322,2017-08-18 12:44:49,">>138060113 In order to understand this you need to understand the incentives that drove us in the past to seek and settle in lawful societies. Law is nothing but a list of restrictions that we accept upon ourselves in order to be sure that our neighbors will be subjected to the same restrictions. The incentives behind law are clear, you would never want to visit a place where you can be killed/stolen without any kind of punishment or restitution. Would these incentives disappear if we got rid of the state? All the opposite, they would be enforced. Property owners would, in their own interest, provide lawful environments in order for their properties to acquire value, now, there are lots of potential market models and solutions, and the beauty of anarcho capitalism is that you could even have multiple law systems collaborating under the same frame, and people would be allowed to find out which law system leads to more prosperous societies.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503060289 138045535,138062780,2017-08-18 12:47:57,">>138061934 Christ. Okay, let me respond to you in the same token: >What if a state does something that is unethical and interfering with someone's rights? Who will police them? This would imply we need an all-powerful global state to ""regulate"" the other states, since those were in a ""state of anarchy"" between them. It's a trip down the totalitarianism/globalism lane if you ask me. Now, onto your proper question: businesses that mistreat their employees and customers (especially customers) don't tend to gain widespread market acceptance. Businesses exist to make money providing services. Niceness sells. Smiles, good PR and customer relationships sell. Rudeness doesn't sell. Abusing your customers doesn't sell. Having bad reviews on Yelp doesn't sell. Just like in other market-produced service, the providers that churn out the best quality service at the lowest available price will win. You won't win by having abuse lawsuits being filed against you by your former customers all the time.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503060477 138045535,138062841,2017-08-18 12:48:24,">>138062193 i guess you're a pagan ? >>138062322 hmm ok",,Anonymous,,,,,1503060504 138045535,138063356,2017-08-18 12:51:54,">>138062841 No but european culture was mostly influenced by paganism, the concept of trinity was around long time ago before christianity and goes back to our aryan roots in hyperborea, just like the fasces the black sun and the swastika. I am no friend of artificially reviving paganism or christianity we will find a new spirituality over time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503060714 138045535,138063643,2017-08-18 12:53:43,">>138046360 He did something wrong, he violated SACRED rules of the mainstream. He made the worst heresy and sin here >>138046562 Being okay with death commies Just as Shkreli hunted down with made up charges, that are mere interpretations and no facts proving crimes, just because people in power despite his persona, he's hunted down. It's happening the same with Cantwell. The difference is, he's armed, listed as something close to a terrorist, a nazi and police was looking for him. He was shitting himself on that vid fearing for his life.",,Anonymous,cant.jpg,9lanTY2VPUtJzM1XbbFHjw==,ES,,1503060823 138045535,138063785,2017-08-18 12:54:30,">>138061934 >no i mean look at how people are not marrying anymore, do you think it should be regulated ? do you think white people should be forced to go to church and get married so that european values can still be kept ? Again, always try to analyze the incentives. Why did this change, why did people marry and all of the sudden stop marrying? Simple, marriage provided a way for women specially to have a financial security for them and their children. Men, on the other hand, had to marry and have children because they wanted to be taken care of/have a security net once old enough. Enter the big state with welfare, and suddenly, an activity that was limited to really wealthy people (divorce) is now widespread. Why? Because society is assuming your mistakes when choosing a partner. People are not having children anymore because the state will take care of them when they grow older. Inflation of inelastic demand products such as housing or healthcare due to constant devaluation of savings, inheritances, etc does not help settling families either.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503060870 138045535,138064406,2017-08-18 12:58:25,">>138061189 capitalism and freedom breeds what works shitty values doesn't work you live in nature nature has laws you play by its rules, no political arbitration shitty values can't stand that, not one",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1503061105 138045535,138064751,2017-08-18 13:00:32,What do you guys think about nuclear weapon?,,Anonymous,,,,,1503061232 138045535,138064918,2017-08-18 13:01:44,">>138064751 Privatize them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503061304 138045535,138064959,2017-08-18 13:01:56,">>138064751 anyone who can afford to build and maintain one has too much to lose to ever justify using it",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503061316 138045535,138064995,2017-08-18 13:02:08,">>138064751 Probablt the best invention ever created for peace",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503061328 138045535,138065020,2017-08-18 13:02:16,">>138064751 Only states could come up with such destructive weapons and get away with it.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503061336 138101641,138101641,2017-08-18 17:27:15,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_lrg.png,Ax4FLg4PngGMKJwJomWgCQ==,GB,,1503077235 138101641,138101933,2017-08-18 17:29:33,FIRST FOR FREE CANTWELL! HE DIDN'T GAS THOSE COMMUNISTS I SWEAR!,,Anonymous,cantwell_removal_0.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,,,1503077373 138101641,138102058,2017-08-18 17:30:26,How can morality be maintained in a free market-driven society?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503077426 138101641,138102631,2017-08-18 17:34:46,">>138102058 A morally decent society could be maintained by forming a community based on that moral attitude, and forcibly excluding those faggots and degenerates who don't care about right and wrong. Gated communities my man.",,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,,,1503077686 138101641,138103521,2017-08-18 17:41:15,">>138101641 god i love freedom >mfw a a big government bootlicker advocates (((the state))) in my vicinity",,Anonymous,1476927851848.jpg,wh8k0EN665jwiS9i7Ye0Fw==,,,1503078075 138101641,138103607,2017-08-18 17:41:50,"If you guys aren't gonna post I'm just gonna shill my stuff. I hope you all are well informed on the Communist doctrine. They intend to seize your property. Don't let it happen, protect yourself.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1503078110 138101641,138103760,2017-08-18 17:43:00,">>138101641 Someone needs to shove Nozick into a locker. Being too afraid to defend your already lukewarm stance is laughable.",,Anonymous,lrg discord nozick is a bitch.png,MMaOq4I4BUaXnlUedgUvYA==,SK,,1503078180 138101641,138103888,2017-08-18 17:43:54,">>138101933 This pic is a body anti-goal",,Anonymous,whitebread.png,JmLlZidjO/2udRXIXS7RPg==,,,1503078234 138101641,138104046,2017-08-18 17:45:10,">>138101933 >33 >chrisposting Nice.",,Anonymous,multiple same numbers on the end of a post number. many such cases. SAD!.jpg,ZfY1C952v+0oEzuI1gKRZg==,SK,,1503078310 138101641,138104081,2017-08-18 17:45:26,,,Anonymous,1.png,0QODquyt0+np/clKX6gl/A==,,,1503078326 138101641,138104083,2017-08-18 17:45:27,">>138103521 Do you think a strong ethnostate which permits a free market (to a degree) is acceptable? Europeans tend to naturally prefer and create free markets, and I think a truly European fascism must accept that fact while safeguarding both the market and the state from (((subversion))) and squander. I'm a minarchist-fascist, desu.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078327 138101641,138104102,2017-08-18 17:45:38,>>138103888,,Anonymous,hitler witness.jpg,fNSt7rwj1GMsUezj3JW+9g==,SK,,1503078338 138101641,138104114,2017-08-18 17:45:45,">>138102058 If you need a state to enforce morality you are already in state of degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078345 138101641,138104184,2017-08-18 17:46:12,">>138103760 KEK, Nozick WILL be put in his place when Ancapistan kills off all the non-chads. Dont you see folks, the end goal of Anarcho-Capitalism is Chad Nationalism!",,Anonymous,1498071159275.png,hkilyxdDI6suWDimCn7vZg==,,,1503078372 138101641,138104196,2017-08-18 17:46:18,">>138104081 Fuck off, kike. Nationalism is what makes cooperation on a large scale possible.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503078378 138101641,138104215,2017-08-18 17:46:25,">>138104081 Are you an antifa shill? Gtfo with that commie shit. Community and heritage is what defines a people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078385 138101641,138104259,2017-08-18 17:46:48,">>138103760 Serious shilling to all non-discord fags to join. Book club meets tomorrow, we discuss the ethics of liberty's introduction and first two parts.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503078408 138101641,138104286,2017-08-18 17:47:00,">>138104083 >I'm a minarchist-fascist, desu. was that too until the point where they just opened the border and flooded my country with subhumans, so I can't trust them anymore in any form.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078420 138101641,138104325,2017-08-18 17:47:18,">>138104081 fuck off nerd. Take your gay shit back to the (((CATO))) institute!",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078438 138101641,138104373,2017-08-18 17:47:34,">>138104196 >>138104215 Fuck off, statists Nationalism=collectivism=communism",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078454 138101641,138104381,2017-08-18 17:47:37,">>138101641 /POL/ IS A NATSOC BOARD REEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,angry_pepe.jpg,uxUhfs7x/LOXim30zQVIuQ==,,,1503078457 138101641,138104459,2017-08-18 17:48:17,">>138104184 Indeed. >can't argue for women being property without justifying property rights We're always one step ahead.",,Anonymous,lrg even the score.jpg,Qstns/e3S4YP5W/vx3bzyA==,SK,,1503078497 138101641,138104497,2017-08-18 17:48:40,">>138104373 Nationalism is just biological by nature, a nation is just a nation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078520 138101641,138104606,2017-08-18 17:49:29,">>138104083 obviously an ethnostate would be the best. in addition to all the other pluses of being white, white people (at least american whites) are the only ones that tend to lean towards small government and free markets. my ideal is a white minarchy ethnostate where white people can do pretty much whatever they want, and the markets remain free and open.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078569 138101641,138104607,2017-08-18 17:49:30,">>138104381 You're a fake NatSoc, everyone knows we occupy the same space in harmony.",,Anonymous,Pol (2).png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,,,1503078570 138101641,138104639,2017-08-18 17:49:49,">>138104259 Intro is written by Hoppe himself, so you better join up.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503078589 138101641,138104671,2017-08-18 17:50:01,">>138104381 Me ne frego del comunismo. Me ne frego degli americani. Me ne frego della società. Me ne frego sono Fascista",,Anonymous,saf1.jpg,ywvvPOHKfC2Kl7b6Njkyhw==,,,1503078601 138101641,138104764,2017-08-18 17:50:36,"Stirrnerian Egoist here. Ask me anything, you spooks.",,Anonymous,1477364712198.jpg,24IDXIB2hvAGKCLsgj8sbg==,,,1503078636 138101641,138104800,2017-08-18 17:50:54,">>138102631 So if someone is found to be fucking little kids, they are removed?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503078654 138101641,138104823,2017-08-18 17:51:05,">>138104381 /pol/ isn't anyone's board, Stormfag. If pol was truly a natsoc board, then this thread wouldn't be here.",,Anonymous,pepe noose.png,petbmudBqRGUjuQPaKqoOg==,GB,,1503078665 138101641,138104860,2017-08-18 17:51:25,">>138104373 Is that why communists hated nationalists and vice-versa? It's almost like groups of people which share a common means of communication and culture are better at cooperating.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1503078685 138101641,138104935,2017-08-18 17:51:54,">>138104764 Tell me somethign about stirner I only see him brought up by ancoms and left libertarians.",,Anonymous,stirnerite.png,vuP8GWa7syxzWRiRPV2ngw==,,,1503078714 138101641,138104949,2017-08-18 17:52:05,"okay retard, if people form a nation voluntarily, are you gonna use the state to break it up? text 1.16 KB >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property | Lew Rockwell https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property >Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal | Lew Rockwell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8 >Nations by Consent | Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Natural Order, the State, and the Immigration Problem | Hans-Hermann Hoppe https://mises.org/system/tdf/16_1_5.pdf?file=1&type=document Read Nations By Consent",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1503078725 138101641,138105055,2017-08-18 17:52:53,">>138104764 why is the market a spook if it is in my self interest to use it to gain wealth",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078773 138101641,138105111,2017-08-18 17:53:13,">>138104607 reeeEEEEEE KEK IS OURS GET SHOAH'D",,Anonymous,maxresdefault (6).jpg,PTSLwrTG6eBHCXniv3aCLw==,,,1503078793 138101641,138105146,2017-08-18 17:53:30,">>138104114 absolutely quotable saved and will be attributed to anonymous",,Anonymous,1489063397341.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1503078810 138101641,138105155,2017-08-18 17:53:37,">>138104949 You can't form a nation voluntarily, because you are born within in it, it is fate. You can overcome the materialistic level though and form a Reich.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078817 138101641,138105218,2017-08-18 17:54:08,">>138104764 It is in my own self interest to ignore your shit ideology.",,Anonymous,1494199996985.jpg,5JCNG+rCtM+B1/iHTRok7w==,,,1503078848 138101641,138105247,2017-08-18 17:54:20,">>138104935 The only reason Stirner is associated with leftism is because his contemporaries form the basis for left thinking. They also conflate his personal feelings with his ideology, which includes left-leaning thoughts that were popular in those days. Egoism quite simply isn't left-leaning or right-leaning, only anti-authority. I'm obviously right-leaning in my egoism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078860 138101641,138105275,2017-08-18 17:54:29,">>138104381 Come and take it, faggot. The neo-cohens called, they want their tactic of cucking on the truth back. No such thing as a ""third position"", you're either right or you're wrong and will be shoved into an airtight locker and gassed and melted down for sheet metal.",,Anonymous,timmy atf tears mint ice cream.jpg,I5GE96nQmzb5sqM5goN4PA==,SK,,1503078869 138101641,138105321,2017-08-18 17:54:56,">>138105146 I-I feel honored senpai.",,Anonymous,akari43.jpg,/w5PvBy0NtabiiYZ4IOHzw==,,,1503078896 138101641,138105407,2017-08-18 17:55:31,">>138104800 yeah, and who evers parent the kid belongs to can potentially murder them and it would be all cool. They did rape a child afterall",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078931 138101641,138105464,2017-08-18 17:55:58,">>138104800 Physically, so to speak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503078958 138101641,138105483,2017-08-18 17:56:09,">>138104800 Yeah. Too bad the only way out for pedophiles is through a woodchipper.",,Anonymous,austin bullies antifa.gif,fmys2Oeux9ZkL/VtWE7Qmw==,SK,,1503078969 138101641,138105484,2017-08-18 17:56:09,">>138105055 The market isn't a spook, but the idea that there should be a market, or the idea that you should participate in the market is a spook. Participating in the market isn't a spook, and if participating in the market serves your self interest, than by all means. >>138105218 (You) Egoism is just ancap dialed to 11.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503078969 138101641,138105632,2017-08-18 17:57:25,">>138104800 Most libertarians don't want the state removed, so they would be punished, severely",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079045 138101641,138105694,2017-08-18 17:57:59,">>138105155 good point. I guess I was talking about the institutions they implement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079079 138101641,138105697,2017-08-18 17:57:58,">>138105247 As far as I know stirner just tells you you can take whatever you can, but I haven't read him, that would correlate with my thesis that every right has to be enforced by power since without power your are just left to the mercy of others to grant you your rights. For example property rights are only valuable if you can enforce them by weaopons and shoot every intruder, be it with your own guns or the help of your neighbourhood or the military power of your insurance company.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079078 138101641,138105750,2017-08-18 17:58:18,Going on a date tonight and I'm scared I'm going to be asked my political views. How do I deflect this question or explain libertarian-monarchist?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1503079098 138101641,138105786,2017-08-18 17:58:33,">>138105275 I don't think Ben Shapiro will approve of your post, young man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503079113 138101641,138105892,2017-08-18 17:59:21,">>138105321 Don't let it get to your head kid; you could have gotten the same result by typing ""include me in the screenshot famalam""",,Anonymous,1498158031017.jpg,H9MIEKdkzrZLZ3sLEeofdg==,US,,1503079161 138101641,138105973,2017-08-18 17:59:59,">>138105697 That is a natural conclusion of his ideology, the only rights you have are those that you can enforce. The logic is easily followed, of course. It's the driving force behind anarcho-capitalism, the idea that attempting force in a situation will result in retaliation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079199 138101641,138106017,2017-08-18 18:00:15,">>138105892 My dreams, crushed again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079215 138101641,138106037,2017-08-18 18:00:26,How accurate is this screencap?,,Anonymous,Libertarian.png,XVCEBF2yaxcQBy+upkcKTA==,US,,1503079226 138101641,138106082,2017-08-18 18:00:51,">>138105407 Best society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503079251 138101641,138106116,2017-08-18 18:01:07,">>138105632 Do you really think the not having a state would make people incapable of gathering the town folk to murder a pedophile?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079267 138101641,138106221,2017-08-18 18:01:53,">>138104800 if you found out that someone you knew was raping kids, and beat the shit out of/killed them, what are other people gonna do, say ""hey man I have a really big problem with you beating up that pedophile""? Not fucking likely",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503079313 138101641,138106222,2017-08-18 18:01:54,">>138105483 Would expect nothing less. Hopefully they can be lowered into it very slowly feet first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503079314 138101641,138106309,2017-08-18 18:02:34,">>138105973 >the only rights you have are those that you can enforce. that's a point a can agree on. same as leftists would say water is a human right, given you are stranded in the desert without water you can scream all you want at the desert that water is a human right but the forces of nature will just kill you, if you are not smart enough to overcome it and find ways to get access to water.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079354 138101641,138106358,2017-08-18 18:02:55,">>138105750 From my own experience, women, no matter how socialist, get horny whenever someone opposes their view, as long as you can defend it better than she can defend hers. A socialist friend with a boyfriend tried to kiss me one night super drunk, and before that she was always debating me. ""I disagree with your ideas but I respect you a lot"" is what she used to tell me.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503079375 138101641,138106439,2017-08-18 18:03:32,">>138102058 Define what you see as morality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079412 138101641,138106592,2017-08-18 18:04:49,">>138106116 Just liek in old times europe when towns just kicked out the jews becuase of their shady tricks, they did it without government. Or when they tared and feathered murders or looters so when they enterd another town everyone there knows what this guy is up to so he would have move to a far away city or live his life as an outcast.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079489 138101641,138106626,2017-08-18 18:05:02,">>138106439 Not being a fag, not being sexually degenerate, not being transgender. Essentially, every moral standard that existed as the norm before the mid 20th Century.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503079502 138101641,138106676,2017-08-18 18:05:26,">>138106309 The founding fathers of the US understood this, this is the implicit idea behind the second amendment, that if the government won't enforce the citizen's rights, than the citizens will. It's a true shame that the lefitsts have appropriated Stirner, his ideology is beyond liberating. >>138102058 >implying you need morality in a free-market driven society",,Anonymous,1449769761317.png,qs1QyjAq0VhsiVUwOzwwxA==,,,1503079526 138101641,138106696,2017-08-18 18:05:34,">>138106037 literallt none of that applies to the libertarianism we advocate here. most ""libertarians"" who converted to natsoc here we what we call left-libertarians or libertines. they are literally communists and a plauge on real libertarians. The ""libertarians"" written about in your image are the same faggots we hate and why /lrg/ exists",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1503079534 138101641,138106892,2017-08-18 18:07:00,">>138104606 Sounds like paradise.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079620 138101641,138106903,2017-08-18 18:07:06,">>138106358 Used to get the chicks who were Psychology majors at school super wet playing this game. ""Anyone want to debate a sociopath"" An hour of stimulating conversation, and I'd be balls deep in her. Even fucked a dyke one night with this method. My bro bet me I couldn't fuck her, found out she was studying Psych, and treated her with a hot beef injection at the end of the night.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503079626 138101641,138107027,2017-08-18 18:08:16,"would you guys call this socialism, I do. this is what most right wingers and patriots in europe believe",,Anonymous,patriotic egalitarianism.jpg,AqycMy47WCvVzVVoYH8wmw==,,,1503079696 138101641,138107057,2017-08-18 18:08:31,">>138106696 literally* we're what we call* fuck meng i goofed",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079711 138101641,138107209,2017-08-18 18:09:34,">>138107027 >what is the difference between white supremacists and multicultralists? There isn't any, all of you haunted pieces of shit look the same to me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079774 138101641,138107258,2017-08-18 18:09:58,">>138107027 ""right""-socialists are cucks for not being supremacists. Uncompetitive fags.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079798 138101641,138107272,2017-08-18 18:10:02,">>138104083 When I look to Europe, I'm not impressed with the results. I actually suspect that excessively ""high-trust"" and conformist societies, as commonly advocated here, cause more problems than they solve. People in such societies are too likely to trust one another to wield broad authority with discretion, or to ignore bad incentives created by government interventions. They also seem prone to neglect of self defense and the right to armament, perhaps due to seeing too much of themselves in their neighbors. I'd argue that such societies tend to be self ""subverting"". A degree of caution in interactions with neighbors and authorities needs to be maintained, no matter the makeup of the population. This being the case, I can't see much benefit in uniformity goals like that, and a lot of potential harm.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503079802 138101641,138107319,2017-08-18 18:10:22,">>138106626 Homosexuals and transgenders will always be an inconsequential minority as long property owners have the right to discriminate and the state is kept out of marriage. Sexual degenerates are inconsequential as well unless they hurt someone, which in that case they would be properly punished.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079822 138101641,138107632,2017-08-18 18:12:44,">>138106358 I got me once a milf who was standing alone in a club with ranting about how people fall into a state of sheeples when grouped in masses because it kills the soul of the individuum and which negates the fact of living in an organic relationship of self awareness in a group, while pointing at the ""partying youth"" later found out she had a red star on her bag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503079964 138101641,138107952,2017-08-18 18:15:18,">>138107258 the phrase everyone is equal also was used by natsocs back in the time, like every german is equal in value, that's why I considered them socialists long before I even started to get into the free market, because value is always subjective. Also one of the main differences of fascism and national socialism just in case one of you ancaps is interested",,Anonymous,,,,,1503080118 138101641,138108045,2017-08-18 18:16:05,">>138105321 >>138106017 nah congratulations, your shitpost is now an image macro whenever someone asks if a state is needed to ""enforce morality"" (tyranny)",,Anonymous,quote.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,US,,1503080165 138101641,138108327,2017-08-18 18:18:20,">>138108045 all those years of shitposting",,Anonymous,nagatomouse.gif,MJgxbWznvbmYdHfi4RwDjA==,,,1503080300 138101641,138108479,2017-08-18 18:19:32,">>138108045 You should go for more chiasmus like JFK's ""ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"", e.g. ""if morality requires enforcement by the state, the state of morality is already degenerate""",,Anonymous,1490910115503.jpg,cJmKP3uug/ox62KhvnW9dQ==,US,,1503080372 138101641,138108566,2017-08-18 18:20:08,"http://tomwoods.com/ep-979-liechtenstein-the-closest-thing-to-a-libertarian-country/ >Actually when the prince gave the right for secession to every village in 2003, this was after a pretty hectic argument with the (unintelligible) because he wanted to give this right of secession not just to every village but also to every individual in their private property. >It was actually a head of state trying to implement Anarcho Capitalism",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503080408 138101641,138108575,2017-08-18 18:20:11,,,Anonymous,jewishLibertarianismMeme.jpg,2bP9QWgwEUmQhtshZYSsFA==,US,,1503080411 138101641,138108786,2017-08-18 18:21:51,">>138108575 >it's another ""let the jewish ghoul control your attitudes and behaviours"" post",,Anonymous,76531483222244602.png,IWjjR7prjt+KB0J+c9y97g==,,,1503080511 138101641,138109050,2017-08-18 18:23:45,">>138108786 Do Jews even exist or are they just spooks?",,Anonymous,1492281524714.png,2/GvLSapswsbWqsiU1TFDw==,US,,1503080625 138101641,138109169,2017-08-18 18:24:38,">>138107952 the egalitarian menace. watch for it even in our circles.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503080678 138101641,138109232,2017-08-18 18:24:59,">>138109050 Jews exist, (((Jews))) don't. Both are my property to do as I see fit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503080699 138101641,138109245,2017-08-18 18:25:06,">>138108479 moralilty and degeneracy comes from one within, the sum of righteous individuals forms a higher civilisation or a shithole. It always starts with yourself, but you can say that a society that need state enforcemend of the state has already goen to shit and is not worth saving. They may still ahve the same genes than your but they are sepeerated in a way that you can't count them your people anymore hence Race is mor than just DNA. a state enforced ethnostate is just the governance of a dead biomass in hopes that a new flame will spark and this only can last for some time as an emergency action and it is the last stage before the total decline of a civilisation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503080706 138101641,138109495,2017-08-18 18:26:51,">>138109169 I know I am glad I first came into contact with libertarian/ancaps at the radical agenda and later found out that the majority of people that lables itself as such are just socialists, I was really shocked when I found out about this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503080811 138101641,138109508,2017-08-18 18:26:55,">>138101641 What can we do to bring the authoritarian right back into the glory of the libertarian right? Identity politics and the people who support it will destroy America.",,Anonymous,1502876504453.png,eI5O6TirBEeoRBs5ceYQNQ==,,,1503080815 138101641,138109590,2017-08-18 18:27:35,">>138108045 Perfect saved.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503080855 138101641,138109693,2017-08-18 18:28:35,">>138108327 I absolutely love quotes in general. Some of the best quotes I've managed to collect have been from shitposts, and with bit of polishing they can sound exquisitely thought-provoking while summarizing/capturing aspects of big ideas here's a few others from various shitposters: >""If it belongs to everyone, it belongs to no one."" >""If you don't teach your children, someone else will."" >""Socialism: Paying people to do nothing, to become nothing."" >>138108479 that could of worked, but I don't feel as if it's that suitable for a chiasmus since I'm not repeating the word ""enforcement"" as a reverse nor was ""degeneracy"" mentioned prior. Seems too confusing for most normies, hell some people even misinterpret JFK's quote into something completely different",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503080915 138101641,138109763,2017-08-18 18:29:10,">>138109508 Europe needs this mindset so bad.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503080950 138101641,138109923,2017-08-18 18:30:22,">>138109693 >""Socialism: Paying people to do nothing, to become nothing."" this is good",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081022 138101641,138109968,2017-08-18 18:30:40,">Just another day in the destroyed country that once could be said to ""flourish"" with democracy and happiness , now in a state of total war , no corners in the lawless streets was safe and ideologies thrive to have any impact and bring peace to this civil war , some followers of Anarcho capitalism were prepared....Just like Ancap-Chan , a simple blonde girl that lives in a small house in the outskirts of the city daring to go there to scavange for any resources , donning a simple t-shirt with some more yellow rags to distinguish herself as a follower of such beliefs ""You should not be here......If they discover how I am just lending you a place to stay.....Someone like you...."" > Others followed more .... Extreme beliefs , just like Fashy-Chan , tanned like the brass of italian guns ,she donned a black shirt that showed some signs of blood and mud , afterall she was used to it .... Using violence to stop those that dared to bring her ""nation"" to a path of poverty and decadence ""Sì..Sì , I already know about it , yet have you not understood how times like this we have to stay united? When anarchists and .... Those red bastards unite....We too have to unite!"" > Ancap-Chan got up from the chair slowly looking into the eyes of Fashy-Chan seeking some comfort by sinking her face in her chest mourning the sadness that they lived in ""I just want to get back....Even if it wasn't what I wanted....I want to be able to eat well....To see property that is not burned or vandalized..."" > Fashy-Chan kept hugging her slowly getting a smile telling her ""We have eachother , no matter what the cost might be if anyone finds out...We will be happy to know we both fought for what we believed in , against our worst enemy , even if my nature goes against yours we fight for the common good...."" > Fashy-Chan took her Fez hat placing it on the head of Ancap-Chan that now...At least had a simple smile adorning it ""Come on Ancap-Chan , I brought some meat that I found wrapp- """,,Anonymous,,,,,1503081040 138101641,138110084,2017-08-18 18:31:39,"> Just like the speed of a fresh rifle projectile Fashy-Chan was welcomed by a strange hug from behind....Ancap-Chan refused to let it go , enjoying the company of Fashy-Chan ... Even if she didn't see her as equal in her beliefs...She learned how to see the facy of an ally in the figure of Fashy-Chan ""Promise me you will stay with me Fashy-Chan....You..You always said that we are stronger when we are united right? You can unite with me!"" > Fashy-Chan gave just a simple smile turning around to place one gloved hand in the cheek of Ancap-Chan calming her ""I will....I have been here for so long that I don't see you as an enemy...When the war ends we will probably depart in our ways....You to your land....And I will go to my nation...."" > Ancap-Chan looked a bit to the floor before she gave a determined look to Fashy-Chan ""I want to stay with you! No matter how strange or anti-pragmatic it will be , I want to stay with the black shirted girl that cares about a nation! We have our differences....But we both fight the same enemy and if that means we have to unite to kill those reds...."" > Fashy-Chan tilted her head just slightly lifting one eyebrow even before she began to realize where this was going starting to rose her cheeks just slightly as....She saw it more as a romantic advance than anything...To break her beliefs for that moment....Just to see a face of someone she might....Love? ""Ancap-Chan I...I mean we both fight those guys but...Don't you think we should just....Go to our ways and..."" > She ceased talking before she saw how the face of Ancap-Chan lighted up with a smile strangely the capitalist girl was enjoying such attitude ""You look cute when you try to protest it you know? Come on....There is nothing wrong in...Loving your allies""",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081099 138101641,138110121,2017-08-18 18:31:57,"> The cheeks of Fashy-Chan rosed up contrasting with her tanned skin , those eyes wide open focusing on the face of Ancap-Chan , that grin settling on her face while one sneaky hand traced just a small movement on the side of the uniform of Fashy-Chan ""Oh a bit stressed for getting a bit close to a capitalist? Come on....Where is all that courage and honor ? A bit afraid to see those....Seductive lips assaulted with just some kisses?"" > The Fez of Fashy-Chan fell , she looked back to Ancap-Chan shyly looking to the side , such a proud girl being afraid to show some or any love for Ancap-Chan , she looked back to her giving a sweet smile ""Only as friends Sí ? I....I don't know if we..."" ""If we last to lovers? Come on! Two girls like us that know how to shoot and protect what they love......Come on..."" > Fashy-Chan looked to the side again closing her eyes softly forming her lips to kiss her yet Ancap-Chan just waited! Torturing the pour soul like that....Just wanting a kiss before she began to open her eye slowly seing the smug look of Ancap-Chan ""You...You cretin! I trust you like this and - "" > Out in this pure state of rage leaving her mouth open Ancap-Chan launched herself to lock her lips with Fashy-Chan , catching her offguard while she wrapped her arms around her back pushing her against the table forcing her to respond with a french kiss > Both girls began to make out , their eyes closed while they traded a soft betrayed form of love in the hidden house , the gloved hands of Fashy-chan made way to the back of Ancap-Chan's head holding it there for some more time just to enjoy the kiss....Just for some more time > They slowly broke the kiss , a small rope of their saliva dropping to the side their eyes focusing on eachother , soon they began to kiss now working a bit more in taking off their clothing , Fashy-Chan softly moaned , not used to such contacts , yet you could see the love on those Italian eyes....",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081117 138101641,138110140,2017-08-18 18:32:09,Are you guys preparing for WW3?,,Anonymous,8b6.png,ZjD6kw/Rrtq9FDVuf9x1Yw==,,,1503081129 138101641,138110300,2017-08-18 18:33:19,">>138109968 10best anime romances",,Anonymous,ancap fie.png,Q2cxQbiZjGJTsehfHD9lFQ==,,,1503081199 138101641,138110628,2017-08-18 18:35:54,">>138110140 Yes but in a way to survive it not to actively fight it, I'd even have to register a .22 and I am convinced registered gun owners are first the gov will take to the camps.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081354 138101641,138110637,2017-08-18 18:35:59,">>138110140 My happening bunker is always ready.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081359 138101641,138110769,2017-08-18 18:37:00,">>138110140 If by preparing you mean sitting back and enjoying the show, you betcha.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081420 138101641,138110992,2017-08-18 18:38:36,">>138104381 right wing libertarianism is basically NatSocism without a state and updated racial opinions",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1503081516 138101641,138111035,2017-08-18 18:38:57,">>138109923 yeah, funny story about that quote. I took that one from what was probably an older pole ranting about communism as he was in an argument with a leftie. He was describing the conditions his people were living in. He went on and on about how people had very little to no life aspirations within their little commie blocks. The original quote wasn't even worded so clearly, it was roughly: >"" . . . this is what socialism has done to my people . . . this is what it does and will do everywhere to those stupid enough to try it. you are paid to do nothing to become nothing and you western idiots always doubt me even though I lived through it first hand. stupid, stupid burger!""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503081537 138101641,138111119,2017-08-18 18:39:29,">>138110628 >>138110637 >>138110769",,Anonymous,1502937529569.jpg,tOzor01c8w0Oswr6XXnwKQ==,,,1503081569 138101641,138111174,2017-08-18 18:39:48,">>138110121 I am aroused by this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081588 138101641,138111397,2017-08-18 18:41:22,">>138110300 >>138111174 It won't be the first fashy or ancap to say that , shame I don't know any drawfags to make some drawing about fashy-chan and ancap-chan , should I continue it too ?",,Anonymous,2797cd5d68fc3b10116239a4ef5c9c61.png,J5fNXWj8OxARYjmk71ycYQ==,,,1503081682 138101641,138111605,2017-08-18 18:42:52,">>138105111 And then the man rolled trips to assert his statement.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503081772 138101641,138111618,2017-08-18 18:42:56,">>138110992 who says we have updated racial opinions?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081776 138101641,138111633,2017-08-18 18:43:05,">LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL >hijacked by an Italian fascist Alrighty then",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081785 138101641,138111649,2017-08-18 18:43:13,">>138111397 If you like, go on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081793 138101641,138111668,2017-08-18 18:43:21,">>138110140 >playing with shitty little space marines You are like little babby, watch this",,Anonymous,gundam_akatsuki.jpg,3xN7iXEPz2ZAREugJ65JCw==,US,,1503081801 138101641,138111808,2017-08-18 18:44:25,">>138111633 Nah, they're cool, aside from weeb shit they're full blown ancaps and total bros.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503081865 138101641,138111893,2017-08-18 18:44:57,">>138111618 racial facts rather as far as I know talks about average IQs weren't a thing back then",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1503081897 138101641,138111989,2017-08-18 18:45:41,">>138111633 But I am not Italian.",,Anonymous,reichsf.jpg,dkQRn0qTVl3+Oqhb0GUc5Q==,,,1503081941 138101641,138112180,2017-08-18 18:47:06,">>138110140 >Libertarian 40k >Authoritarianism claims the weak and incomplete. A true man can flinch away from its influence, if he is stalwart, and he girds his soul with the armor of the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503082026 138101641,138112232,2017-08-18 18:47:36,Posting sneks,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503082056 138101641,138112244,2017-08-18 18:47:42,"My wife son plays GTA online and he has bunker full of army surplus and weaponry with APCS and tanks. And the law doesn't stop him, he said there's a private milita that he kills but he always can pay them to work for him? Is this what an ancap society would be like?.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503082062 138101641,138112296,2017-08-18 18:48:02,">>138111893 Iq tests weren't that common back in the time and the view on race had nothing to do with natsoc it was just of scientifical and historical interest in all of europe, just those questions who are we, where are we coming from, where will we go. burn your silly little german schoolbooks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503082082 138101641,138112588,2017-08-18 18:50:18,">>138111893 we were talking about OPINIONS not FACTS, re-read your own post. IQ statistics aren't opinions, you dipshit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503082218 138101641,138112661,2017-08-18 18:50:45,>>138112232,,Anonymous,sneks.jpg,zqK6z8d0FRclP8j8JyJf5g==,,,1503082245 138101641,138112669,2017-08-18 18:50:47,">@138112244 >my wife's son Trying too hard.",,Anonymous,bait_excalibait.png,0/LsqMT0BB6pEWVhfx2A8A==,US,,1503082247 138101641,138112768,2017-08-18 18:51:32,">>138112661 Everything was perfect about AnCap except the goddamn animal",,Anonymous,snakes.jpg,ADm2x6xUZTIAXYRiMWqGfA==,US,,1503082292 138101641,138112915,2017-08-18 18:52:31,">>138111668 Lul khorne laughs at your puny gundams",,Anonymous,99120102041_LordofSkulls01[1].jpg,MtTVMP5buX8AFdPZTCbGpw==,,,1503082351 138101641,138113227,2017-08-18 18:55:03,">>138101641 *tips fedora*",,Anonymous,fqhwbsy6gqez.jpg,JApTJYcLhIKNPUKRRurZDw==,GB,,1503082503 138101641,138113238,2017-08-18 18:55:10,">>138112244 Maybe it wouldn't be a great idea to hire the same private army you fight unless they dont know who you are, but yeah pretty much.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503082510 138101641,138113547,2017-08-18 18:57:29,">>138112915 >he has more arms than guns Not even close, baby.",,Anonymous,gundam_strikefreedom_fullburst.jpg,tnZiAajW3qbazchYOxpfWg==,US,,1503082649 138101641,138113577,2017-08-18 18:57:49,">>138113227 This image is bullshit, AnCap pretty much makes the biggest chad the king of ancapistan. also finding it hard to believe Chad doesn't quote Hoppe",,Anonymous,TUCKED.png,fiIObhMzcRg3DLvHKW6cVg==,,,1503082669 138101641,138113616,2017-08-18 18:58:09,">>138112768 I like snakes as much as I like the eagle. You can even combine them as the telluric and cosmic principle (female and male principle) one roams the earth, while the other soars through the sky and you need both for a prospering civilization that's why ancaps should lead the fight on the economic material front and fascists on the spiritual front.",,Anonymous,fashsnek.jpg,fvJtm6Fn7c1lHOagMaLK9g==,,,1503082689 138101641,138113942,2017-08-18 19:00:44,">>138113227 >paranoia due to marijuana addiction What the hell do (you) know? Who told (you)?!",,Anonymous,insanityintensifies.gif,iVffFwZ3H4P0N6IUrAQ8pA==,US,,1503082844 138101641,138114179,2017-08-18 19:02:30,">>138113616 >snake >eagle DRAGON!",,Anonymous,dragon.jpg,iOJIDJM7VTMQfL2CSRW9dw==,US,,1503082950 138101641,138114456,2017-08-18 19:04:38,">>138114179 >mfw smaug was obviously the OG ancap and the (((dwarves))) violated the NAP and stole his shit",,Anonymous,smaug.jpg,0YvM9Icym0hOV4rdxvhkAg==,US,,1503083078 138101641,138114487,2017-08-18 19:04:56,">>138114179 Dragons are the strongest race, the commies will burn in hell.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503083096 138101641,138114719,2017-08-18 19:06:41,">>138114456 mine working dwarves formed a miner ((union)) to rob a peaceful dragon who dindu nothin of his property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503083201 138101641,138114905,2017-08-18 19:08:09,">>138114719 >mfw it's already a damn meme",,Anonymous,dwarves.jpg,2ZZfxGHJdkhuYp5EQUpHfQ==,US,,1503083289 138101641,138115235,2017-08-18 19:10:51,">>138113547 >not being a literal mass of shapeshifting guns",,Anonymous,Iron-Warriors-Obliterator[1].jpg,UkIQhwMu00YDrw/6tOsAEQ==,,,1503083451 138101641,138115371,2017-08-18 19:12:03,">>138114905 Goddamn dwarves",,Anonymous,aichan.jpg,zUR7tK2cfnz5M5IkG2+TEA==,,,1503083523 138101641,138116936,2017-08-18 19:23:57,>>138110300,,Anonymous,ancapchan.jpg,DbPIsPq63O/FbuKia5eBAA==,MT,,1503084237 138101641,138117162,2017-08-18 19:25:55,"The two biggest impediments outside of actual populace support for the implementation of a libertarian society are 1. Legit court systems that actually defend ones private property 2. Economic structure. I used to be a huge metal standard supporter, but the ultra rich own all the metals. Whats the plans?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503084355 138101641,138117531,2017-08-18 19:28:58,">>138117162 >1. If you can't defend your property, then it's your property only because others choose to give it to you (ergo, it's not your property, its their charity). >2. What's wrong with that?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503084538 138101641,138117741,2017-08-18 19:30:38,>>138116936,,Anonymous,ancap gf 2.jpg,RfrV7ItXGqjolez3pZlYsQ==,,,1503084638 138101641,138118036,2017-08-18 19:33:25,">>138117741 >I finally physically removed that stain, so to speak lost",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503084805 138101641,138118165,2017-08-18 19:34:37,">>138117531 1. So when a big business polutes the shit out of your land, tough shit? When a rogue combine comes through yoir fucked? See why your the ideology is not taken serious... 2. Whats wrong with going to an economic structure that benefits TPTB currently?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503084877 138101641,138118314,2017-08-18 19:35:54,">>138117741 >ancap_gf_2.jpg >implying there is ancap_gf.jpg gib.",,Anonymous,gibmedat.webm,mMHAgV6tMncd3BIQr3SVOw==,US,,1503084954 138101641,138118442,2017-08-18 19:36:56,">>138117162 >1. Legit court systems that actually defend ones private property Incentives will lead people to places where private property is defended one way or another. People tend to want to live where they feel safe. Either that, or they will have to defend themselves if they feel capable. >2. Economic structure. I used to be a huge metal standard supporter, but the ultra rich own all the metals. Free banking system, people who encourage savings will chose deflationary currencies and people who want quick spending will chose inflationary ones",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1503085016 138101641,138118637,2017-08-18 19:38:40,">>138118165 >1. So when a big business polutes the shit out of your land, tough shit? When a rogue combine comes through yoir fucked? If you can't stop those things from happening, yeah, you're fucked. That's not my ideology talking, that's just the way the world is. All of those things still happen now, except the only power you have is...oh, I guess you don't have any, thanks to laws and regulations. Really makes you think, doesn't it? Don't get too sleepy on me now. >2. Whats wrong with going to an economic structure that benefits TPTB currently? You tell me. The rich have way less power when they can't influence the Tyrant of Majority.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503085120 138101641,138118641,2017-08-18 19:38:45,">>138118165 >So when a big business polutes the shit out of your land, tough shit? then it would damage your property your insurance company wouldn't take this kindly becuae they'd ahve to pay for the damage to your property and thus they will take their compensation from said company or they will consider them saveages if they don'T stop and pay the compensation. if it were a large company it could lead to a war in last consequence if they couldn't come to an agreement. just liek nowadays with states, but on a much smaller scale.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503085125 138101641,138118766,2017-08-18 19:39:47,">>138118314 I have it but not sure what the difference is and to lazy to open it up to look at it first so it is a surprise post.",,Anonymous,ancap gf.jpg,1/RomCC6mMfasmOJ7tLc+g==,,,1503085187 138101641,138119058,2017-08-18 19:42:30,">>138117741 >>138118766 where can I find an ancap gf libertarian meetings/events are absolute sausage fests",,Anonymous,1497189757522.png,T1taCkrFKTFrlXN2JryRgQ==,US,,1503085350 138101641,138119382,2017-08-18 19:45:14,">>138118165 >he assumes there are not private courts There are. >pollution Pollution causes measurable economic damage in the form of lost income, the landowner has a valid claim to some of the polluting business' income. >rogue combine This is the same unjust enrichment argument as the polluter. >economic structure that benefits TPTB Not exactly sure what you mean by economic structure. Standardized definitions for purity of metals are a good thing; and modern markets will always adopt some form of standardization to make transactions smoother. >metal currency Actual metal currency in the form of gold/silver coinage will never work again; there's simply not enough physical gold/silver and it's difficult to work with compared to electrons. >metal-backed derivative currencies This is more viable, but the issuing institution has every incentive to, and always eventually has, debased the money through either outright fraud or expanding the money supply through fractional reserves. >blockchain-based cryptocurrencies This is likely to be the future, either with corporations releasing their own currencies that freely float against each other, like the stock market, and/or fully decentralized blockchains like bitcoin.",,Anonymous,expert2.jpg,eKkgJsLRtRGRDxKyAl7+ng==,US,,1503085514 138101641,138119402,2017-08-18 19:45:23,">>138119058 >women >respecting their political opinions just get some hot ""social democrat"" and convert her. make her accept ancap BY FORCE.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503085523 138101641,138119603,2017-08-18 19:47:00,">>138119058 I don't know I neither have met an ancap or a fashist girl ever in my lifetime. I've met with some libertarians and classical liberals last month but they all had dicks, but before you asked no there weren't even traps.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503085620 138101641,138119692,2017-08-18 19:47:45,">>138118766 >small text what if the child consents tho naughty naughty you'll get caughty",,Anonymous,1492434772401.jpg,4zpXrbfuGaDyg6gfEL/apw==,US,,1503085665 138101641,138119882,2017-08-18 19:49:27,">>138119402 Wouldn't it be easier to get a open libertarian college girl to accept conservative values, since they already mistrust the state. >>138119692 It is not mine also saw it after saving it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503085767 138101641,138119901,2017-08-18 19:49:36,">>138119402 >violate the NAP to get a 3D gf No thanks anon, I'll stick with 2D",,Anonymous,karen_smug.png,jmIEry6ogjmVNwfHinjafw==,US,,1503085776 138101641,138120111,2017-08-18 19:51:22,">>138119901 >I'll stick with 2D good choice",,Anonymous,dont cheat on your waifu you fucking traitor will face the all and the bullet will be well deserved.jpg,x9Tb740Fguz9DLOdlHWb7g==,,,1503085882 138101641,138120137,2017-08-18 19:51:37,"Looks like the statist >>138118165 gave up, chalk up another victory for private property rights and freedom of contract.",,Anonymous,tomoko_partyhard.gif,IIBuCLMUg5OsI74d1RfEfA==,US,,1503085897 138101641,138120222,2017-08-18 19:52:21,">>138120111 checked",,Anonymous,karen_meme.jpg,QHAhODMm4gKXwKQ1xpqtrg==,US,,1503085941 138101641,138120285,2017-08-18 19:52:57,">>138119382 Thx mate. Any good readings/ insight on what a private court system looks like. I can't wrap my head around it, like how it wouldnt become corrupt af And i can see crypto currency working",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503085977 138101641,138120289,2017-08-18 19:52:58,">>138119882 Do you know a libertarian college girl? I only know pinkos.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503085978 138101641,138120482,2017-08-18 19:54:46,">>138120289 No I only have met 2 libertarian guys so far. and living in socialist europe I think the closest you will ever get are some spoiled neoliberal brats because they care so much about the rights of gays and arabs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503086086 138101641,138120640,2017-08-18 19:56:01,">>138120285 There's a video in the OP - The Machinery of Freedom (Illustrated Summary)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1503086161 138101641,138120720,2017-08-18 19:56:52,">>138120482 so take one of those chicks and make her right-libertarian. Girls dont have political opinions, they'll swtich to yours once its not useful to be a communist anymore.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503086212 138101641,138121521,2017-08-18 20:03:49,">>138109968 >>138110300 do either of you have a pic of fashy-chan?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503086629 138101641,138121683,2017-08-18 20:05:15,">>138120720 I don't even know one of them just girls I went to school back in the days are now shilling for it. And they are not particularly interested in speaking with me. And I don't think they believe in a free market this neoliberal party we have is literally just shilling for muh equality and close the gender paygap let everyone get married and cut the taxes by a few percent. we are already on 41%income tax and 20%sales tax. So I am also not really interested in those people. patriotic girls are even a nogo they are all smug and will lecture you about politics because they are so smug about finding out that muslims are bad. and apolitical modest girls with a natural cuteness which I would prefer are also rare to a degree that I only can speculate if they are like this when I see them in the streets from time to time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503086715 138101641,138121806,2017-08-18 20:06:07,">>138121521 only this",,Anonymous,fascist gf.jpg,QQ29N3McPCe2XZWBFTVqzg==,,,1503086767 138101641,138121827,2017-08-18 20:06:17,">>138101641 Hail Liberty! The alt-right has fallen! Good riddance nu-/pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503086777 138101641,138122084,2017-08-18 20:08:25,">>138121521 oh wait she could be our fashy chan",,Anonymous,mariemaia2.png,oiiskLdpN+Q4cAxhauFfKw==,,,1503086905 138101641,138122118,2017-08-18 20:08:41,">>138120285 >private courts It's actually remarkably similar to the American court system; mostly because American courts allow for simultaneous jurisdiction between Federal and state courts. Let's start at the beginning: >Legitimacy of the court(s) For the court to be legitimate in AnCap, the individual person must voluntarily agree to subject themselves to the body of law & legal precedent the court follows, including the individual having to respect jury summons and legitimate personal jurisdiction (meaning if someone sues the individual in that court and the suit is properly served, the individual must appear or is in contempt). This voluntary acceptance of court legitimacy is essentially a social contract between the individual and the legal system, wherein the individual agrees to abide by the law enforceable by the court, in exchange for being able to bring suit in court against those who have violated the laws which protect him. >what if conflicting parties are not bound by the same law This occurs in the US all the time when State A person and State B person have a conflict. Supposing State B person is plaintiff, State B person can legitimately sue State A if State B has personal jurisdiction over State A person (in practice meaning if State A person maintains property, does business, or is arrested in State B). If State B does not have personal jurisdiction, the State A person will either need to sue in Federal court (and use federal standards), or they're out of luck. In AnCap, the system would work similarly, with the added ability for legal regimes to contractually agree to ""overlap"" personal jurisdictions for certain crimes or types of suit (very similar to how extradition treaties work between sovereign nations). >insurances against corruption Firstly, the social contract which initially bound the private individual by the legal regime of the court will likely contain contractual clauses that define breach by the court (1/2)",,Anonymous,ancap_bb8.png,9PjHEX3vjXhj8GyZp3OTSQ==,US,,1503086921 138101641,138122366,2017-08-18 20:11:03,">>138119402 >>women >>respecting their political opinions Hahahahahahahaha... Why not a chimpansee ? It's basically the same intelectual lvl.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503087063 138101641,138122416,2017-08-18 20:11:12,">>138104196 Yeah international trade doesn't exist. >being this retarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1503087072 138101641,138122909,2017-08-18 20:15:07,"Portobro checking in. I'm so pissed off Bannon was fired. You just know the deep state will get to Trump now.",,Anonymous,hoppe attemps to make contact with ets.png,Yv2F7A2vQcm3cEacS+zlYw==,PT,,1503087307 138101641,138122991,2017-08-18 20:15:45,">>138122118 (2/2) >insurances against corruption Firstly, the social contract which initially bound the private individual by the legal regime of the court will likely contain contractual clauses that define breach by the court, e.g. ""if the court is found to be incapable and/or unwilling to render impartial judgment by third party, judgment against the individual will be rendered null/void"". In practice nobody will actually use these clauses, however, because the legal regime can also exists as a for-profit entity, and is most likely intimately tied if not merged with the insurance industry. Savvy law-making goes hand-in-hand with reducing societal risks, and increasing the subscriber base by being more competitive is ultimately more rewarding than operating a small corrupt corporation, not to mention that because of network effects and economics of scale in risk pooling, small insurance companies are much less competitive than large ones. In the same way, small corrupt courts are much less profitable to operate than large, quasi-public (in the sense of scale and the factual likelihood the large court corporation, McCourt, so to speak, would be publicly traded on a major stock exchange) McCourt.",,Anonymous,ancap_mia.png,6B+URE5HY8AXfavyMgyxMg==,US,,1503087345 138101641,138123246,2017-08-18 20:17:48,">>138122909 I can feel the happeing ready to happen.",,Anonymous,Hoppe (13).jpg,r8yeiQ6rTZevJRGVTi6gvw==,,,1503087468 138101641,138123278,2017-08-18 20:18:04,">>138122366 Fuck you faggot, apes are more people than niggers. Koko can sign over 100 words and that niglet only knew ""juice chicken gorilla""",,Anonymous,niggersarentgorillas.jpg,wwdJL7qQRIWNRnvs3Rh/MQ==,US,,1503087484 138101641,138123344,2017-08-18 20:18:42,">>138122366 Best way would be to look for a cute girl with a nice character, who doesn't care about politics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503087522 138101641,138123549,2017-08-18 20:20:30,">>138123278 >tfw virgin nigger >the Chad ape",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503087630 138101641,138123561,2017-08-18 20:20:37,">>138123246 I unironically hope the race war ends in secession. I'll galdly follow the monarch Jared Taylor into WhiteTopia",,Anonymous,nick land accelerate.png,WleDgjIIu3urdv6R/MMhFA==,PT,,1503087637 138101641,138123673,2017-08-18 20:21:43,">>138123549 >do it faggot I'm counting on you making this a reality, leaf.",,Anonymous,juicechickengorilla.jpg,mwX/8kmmBR8WGm4bo+m67w==,US,,1503087703 138101641,138123905,2017-08-18 20:23:40,">>138123561 That would no doubt be the best timeline. decentralization now!",,Anonymous,,,,,1503087820 138101641,138124036,2017-08-18 20:24:48,">>138108786 Kek, I'm starting to like Stirnerites now. What's the best translation of The Ego and Its Own?",,Anonymous,Spooky Road.jpg,xYh1IO++P0T11bCARb9I4Q==,,,1503087888 138101641,138124671,2017-08-18 20:30:21,">>138123561 Would Mencius Moldbug be allowed to live there?",,Anonymous,iamNRXnow.jpg,lGPq/nidpQkMVqyt2K3NNQ==,,,1503088221 138101641,138124900,2017-08-18 20:32:20,">>138124671 I think so. Why? But I heard he is Jewish, I guess it depends whether or not Jared is honest when he says he has no qualms with kikes. Whether MM would live there or not, I still like the guy.",,Anonymous,moldbug.jpg,yoPFLATPMy9Q6IpQnyqN2w==,PT,,1503088340 138101641,138125287,2017-08-18 20:35:42,"The video in the OP is fucking brilliant; it's worth the 23 minutes to watch because it really simply explains the AnCap court system. Who the fuck knew reading the thread sticky is worth it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o",,Anonymous,1497394722552.png,aX49el4Vl4itokoEAZIhww==,US,,1503088542 138101641,138125318,2017-08-18 20:35:58,">>138124036 I read the edition by David Leopold, which covers a lot of extra stuff than just the translation, like aspects of his life, and the context in which he wrote the work. I'd suggest reading it slowly, trying to get a feel for his ideas in an abstract and unserious way, and taking the aid of summaries as much as you can. He uses some concepts in a real strange way (like the concept of a man being ""own"" as opposed to being ""free""), and I've found it not necessarily a hard read, but hard to understand at time (which I assume is a translation and time barrier). I like to shit post in as many of these threads as possible, so hit me up with any questions, I have Stirner's ideology down pretty solid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503088558 138101641,138125608,2017-08-18 20:38:45,">>138124036 Try the Benjamin Tucker version, it's one of the older ones.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503088725 138101641,138126154,2017-08-18 20:43:20,"''' “The Trump presidency that we fought for, and won, is over,” Bannon said Friday. “We still have a huge movement, and we will make something of this Trump presidency. But that presidency is over. It’ll be something else. And there’ll be all kinds of fights, and there’ll be good days and bad days, but that presidency is over.” It is plainly Bannon’s view that his departure is a defeat for the ideology he’d urged upon the president, as reflected in Trump’s provocative inaugural address—in which he spoke of self-dealing Washington politicians, and their policies that led to the shuttered factories and broken lives of what he called “American carnage.” Bannon co-authored that speech. Bannon says that he once confidently believed in the prospect of success for that version of the Trump presidency he now says is over. Asked what the turning point was, he says, “It’s the Republican establishment. The Republican establishment has no interest in Trump’s success on this. They’re not populists, they’re not nationalists, they had no interest in his program. Zero. It was a half-hearted attempt at Obamacare reform, it was no interest really on the infrastructure, they’ll do a very standard Republican version of taxes. And, he believes, things are about to get worse for Trump. “There’s about to be a jailbreak of these moderate guys on the Hill”—a stream of Republican dissent, which could become a flood. “I think they’re going to try to moderate him,” he says. “His natural tendency—and I think you saw it this week on Charlottesville—his actual default position is the position of his base, the position that got him elected. I think you’re going to see a lot of constraints on that. I think it’ll be much more conventional.” ''' http://www.weeklystandard.com/bannon-the-trump-presidency-that-we-fought-for-and-won-is-over./article/2009355 Bannon is the latest to learn that democracy doesn't solve anything.",,Anonymous,bannon frog.png,gdnLHaptqK/RWsL6wQvJyw==,US,,1503089000 138101641,138126301,2017-08-18 20:44:30,">>138125287 pretty high quality wonder why he doesn't have that much subs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503089070 138101641,138126404,2017-08-18 20:45:22,">>138125318 >hear about this stirner fellow ITT >trying to understand this stirner fellow >read your shitty posts in this thread So basically, the individual and their perception of reality is rationally the sole meaningful means of decision-making, and anything one perceives as originating from the perceived reality invading the autonomous individual's methodology of decision-making is to be called ""a spook"" to emphasize its essence as a ghost, metaphorically the phantasm of the individual inscribing unto the perceived reality the falsehood of its having power over the individual consciousness. Two questions - 1. Do I roughly understand Stirner? >Egoism is just ancap dialed to 11. 2. What did (you) mean by this?",,Anonymous,1497583203292.gif,rRQPQK42R4dwNSAPu6jUcQ==,US,,1503089122 138101641,138126508,2017-08-18 20:46:11,">>138126154 today is a sad day indeed",,Anonymous,hwhy.jpg,jO0oqL/3soad60cALQ4a5Q==,PT,,1503089171 138101641,138126623,2017-08-18 20:47:03,">>138126301 Because the free market of attention span is more likely to subscribe if there are tits bouncing in the video.",,Anonymous,1492548875336.jpg,uGeP0KQT/joP06cfnevUTQ==,US,,1503089223 138101641,138126774,2017-08-18 20:48:28,">>138124900 Out of curiosity, how do you view the role of NrX (Moldbug and Land and the Alt-Right ideas that sprang from their work) in the rightward shift of so many libertarians? Or would you attribute it more to the current insanity of the left? Libertarianism doesn't seem to be about individual liberty, property rights, and Ron Paul anymore. You never used to hear talk of right wing death squads, Pinochetians chucking commies out of choppers, ethnic nationalism, race and IQ discussions, or anything like that only a few years ago. It seems things have taken a darker turn of late.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503089308 138101641,138126860,2017-08-18 20:49:15,">>138126623 pretty sad desu, this guy deserves more views will try and shill him to others, thanks for posting it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503089355 138101641,138127067,2017-08-18 20:50:46,">>138126774 >right wing death squads, Pinochetians chucking commies out of choppers, ethnic nationalism, race and IQ discussions That's what the popular kids are talking about in every ideology these days. It's just a more violent time because the media and internet are radicalizing the extremists in all parties. >Libertarianism doesn't seem to be about individual liberty, property rights, and Ron Paul anymore It still is.",,Anonymous,niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.jpg,7eN+Tudsn9/V3C+KeImz/g==,US,,1503089446 138101641,138127120,2017-08-18 20:51:21,">>138103521 >Someone advocates violent suppression of ideas they don't like This shit irritates me to end. Yes free speech is a valid defense and if you don't like free speech there's always Britbongistan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503089481 138101641,138127257,2017-08-18 20:52:22,">>138126860 I didn't post it; it was in the OP the whole time and I know I've seen this thread at least 15 times and never bothered reading the OP text before shitposting about nazis",,Anonymous,1497916131194.jpg,uDGpN/1Zx7405Icf2cC34g==,US,,1503089542 138101641,138127457,2017-08-18 20:53:52,">>138127257 o shit my bad senpai, I read the OP a long ago, just don't really check it since I expect it to be the same",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503089632 138101641,138127689,2017-08-18 20:55:47,">>138127457 It's ok; I'm just regretting all those times I typed out a response to a statist instead of linking a video and posting a smug anime girl.",,Anonymous,frustratedbutcutefeeling.png,uTK78uTIl3jbjh9LPHOR0A==,US,,1503089747 138101641,138128729,2017-08-18 21:04:20,OC Bastiat aesthetic,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502913433000.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,US,,1503090260 138101641,138128734,2017-08-18 21:04:24,">>138126404 1. You have the surface-level understanding of Stirner. To put it in simple terms, the goal of egoism is to remove artificial manipulation of the practitioner's will, by renouncing all obligations that exist outside of the practitioner's will. A spook is merely a thing that creates one of those obligations. This is why things like morality and the free market are considered spooks, because when you subscribe to those things, you're sacrificing your autonomy for their sake (i.e. by deciding to do what's best for those things, instead of doing what's best for specifically your goals). It's weird as a political ideology, because it's political nature follows only from its influence on your personal decisions. When you follow egoism to its logical conclusions, you end up with a pretty ascetic form of life, because at the end of the day, it's all about self-mastery. >2. Egoism is essentially anarcho-capitalism, except you don't follow the spooks of the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503090264 138101641,138128943,2017-08-18 21:06:20,">>138101641 Look at all those Jew pepes. Fuck libertarianism, it is the most selfish Jewish ideology ever invented, worse perhaps than even communism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503090380 138101641,138129052,2017-08-18 21:07:25,">>138128734 Have you considered by rejecting private property rights, you're paving the way for a major increase in time preference rates, which will lead to decivilization if not in your own life then in your children's or grandchildren's?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503090445 138101641,138129163,2017-08-18 21:08:20,">>138128734 Seems pretty close to my philosophy as a Shaivanite, except rather than call it a spook, I call it karma, and rather than calling it the practioner's will, I call it dharma, and the collective will of the strongest practitioners is also dharma. To achieve nirvana is for your dharma to be one and the same with the universal dharma.",,Anonymous,shiva(1).jpg,ez8shqUWpJzW+MwE23q7dg==,US,,1503090500 138101641,138129237,2017-08-18 21:08:55,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-11-04.01.15.png,F1G2ogUzvJaN3iyz4EI77w==,US,,1503090535 138101641,138129352,2017-08-18 21:09:51,">>138128943 You truly live up to the Australian shitposter meme",,Anonymous,drop it like it's hoppe.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,PT,,1503090591 138101641,138129449,2017-08-18 21:10:38,>>138128943,,Anonymous,strayabtfo.gif,GwX/gjkU6o4cJo7SxpqYiQ==,US,,1503090638 138101641,138129491,2017-08-18 21:10:55,,,Anonymous,prabudroid_1503087121568.gif,iUakj9WwjeBHNNwP1uNvtw==,US,,1503090655 138101641,138129754,2017-08-18 21:12:52,,,Anonymous,hoppe on nuclear family.png,Lo7/z0ZK4MrZZXXuqURbZg==,PT,,1503090772 138101641,138129936,2017-08-18 21:14:18,">>138129052 >Have you considered by rejecting private property rights, you're paving the way for a major increase in time preference rates, which will lead to decivilization if not in your own life then in your children's or grandchildren's? I could say that none of those things are my problem - and they really aren't - but I would have to disagree. It might be a might-makes-right world, but the world is already egoistic by default, and yet here we are. This is to egoism what ""but who will build the roads?"" is to anarcho-capitalism. Just because violence is a way to procure property doesn't mean that it's always the best way to procure property. Just because I don't worship property rights doesn't mean I won't respect someone else's property. I just go out of their way to respect their property if I get no utility out of it. >>138129163 Yeah, the lifestyle is surprisingly close to a lot of indian philosophies, I've noticed, particularly buddhism. I've taken a great interest in them, and notice an interesting amount of parallels. There is a dead indian philosophy called the Lokayata or Carvaka, which focused on materialism, which I have a feeling would have been pretty similar to egoism, but next to nothing exists about its contents.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503090858 138101641,138129995,2017-08-18 21:14:45,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502718827000.jpg,G5F80BlpxVSIZO1WIS+QIg==,US,,1503090885 138101641,138130012,2017-08-18 21:14:54,,,Anonymous,kawaii.gif,Vvk3bGA79ufSiuBSXNKoSA==,US,,1503090894 138101641,138130080,2017-08-18 21:15:23,">>138129936 Sorry, typo on my last line >I just go out of their way to respect their property if I get no utility out of it. Should be >I just won't go out of my way to respect their property if I get no utility out of it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503090923 138101641,138130215,2017-08-18 21:16:33,">>138129936 >I just DON'T go out of their way to respect their property if I get no utility out of it. You Stirner fellows are alright.",,Anonymous,ancapbird.jpg,s4EPyasFf5lQ1f4hr6A1ww==,US,,1503090993 138101641,138130356,2017-08-18 21:17:38,">>138130080 Hmm, interesting. So, for example, you wouldn't break into someone's house and steal their couch, but you'd walk through their backyard to get to your destination faster?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503091058 138101641,138130630,2017-08-18 21:19:44,">>138130356 Precisely. I'd rob someone of their money if I were dying and needed water, but I'd just as well give my money to a homeless man for the sake of keeping my community safe and well-fed. Because, at the end of the day, my actions are about achieving my goals, and not about changing my goals to meet the arbitrary goals of things that exist outside of my will.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503091184 138101641,138130680,2017-08-18 21:20:10,This thread isn't as fun without the nazis. I kinda miss those guys low IQ shitposting now.,,Anonymous,1492761148544.png,Z0VsOqRodJK2lkUpnPCzHw==,US,,1503091210 138101641,138130770,2017-08-18 21:20:53,,,Anonymous,physical awoo.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,PT,,1503091253 138101641,138131015,2017-08-18 21:23:02,,,Anonymous,Vaporwave1.502410334965E12-1.png,X7HPq1XmSTkxSwJ9LV7S1w==,US,,1503091382 138101641,138131196,2017-08-18 21:24:26,">>138122909 Here's an alleged Bannon quote: >What’s that Dostoyevsky line: Happy families are all the same, but unhappy families are unhappy in their own unique ways?” (He meant Tolstoy.) “I think the Democrats are fundamentally afflicted with the inability to discuss and have an adult conversation about economics and jobs, because they’re too consumed by identity politics. And then the Republicans, it’s all this theoretical Cato Institute, Austrian economics, limited government — which just doesn’t have any depth to it. They’re not living in the real world. https://mises.org/blog/steve-bannon-dismisses-austrian-economics Dude is a protectionist. To be sure, I don't hate him, but he's no friend of either the libertarians or the Austrians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503091466 138101641,138131368,2017-08-18 21:25:54,">>138129163 >Shaivanite How can one ""master the Self"" when the self does not exist? Your philosophy is one of non-duality, is it not? I find it difficult to reconcile western philosophy with more ancient eastern philosophy in this regard. Please enlighten me if I misunderstand.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503091554 138101641,138131376,2017-08-18 21:25:59,">>138105155 what is Liberland. what is buying land. what are airplanes. what is having an imagination",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503091559 138101641,138131526,2017-08-18 21:27:08,">>138131196 Yes, he's a protectionist, we all know that. We like him for the anti-PC stuff, not for economics. He's completely wrong in that regard.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503091628 138101641,138131554,2017-08-18 21:27:18,">>138130630 That's really no different that saying that you'll respect a social convention as long as it the cost of not doing so exceed the perceived benefits. (Where benefits is a function of what your ""authentic"" goals are.) But in this sense, we could argue that egoism (tism?) in your sense is not much different than basic morality as it is manifested in everyday life. This is so because most people are not confronted, in ordinary situations, with circumstances in which the cost of respecting a convention would be unduly onerous. (For instance, by having them starve.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1503091638 138101641,138131682,2017-08-18 21:28:17,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-07-03.45.41.jpg,ShZ04W5wS22f39An5GjVyQ==,US,,1503091697 138101641,138131855,2017-08-18 21:29:44,">>138125287 Really interesting, I'm gonna save it. Thanks for getting me to watch it.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1503091784 138101641,138131931,2017-08-18 21:30:30,">>138131526 I was wondering whether or not I'd find you here again, Portubro. Here's something to laugh at. (From conquest's history of the Russian revolution.)",,Anonymous,conquest - moneyless economy.png,MKdm6/V6J4Q6u/o/23yShg==,,,1503091830 138101641,138132162,2017-08-18 21:32:12,">>138131855 David Friedman is no bitch.",,Anonymous,david friedman.jpg,9xJ7mFS0FZo+6nmAvS+BFA==,,,1503091932 138101641,138132163,2017-08-18 21:32:13,">>138119058 new hampshire",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503091933 138101641,138132418,2017-08-18 21:34:39,">not wanting to ban contraception >even using contraception Are any of you guys in /lrg/ committing race treason?",,Anonymous,contraceptiveballs.png,uKialYXgrTnlDB5BjVwE8A==,,,1503092079 138101641,138132477,2017-08-18 21:35:09,">>138131554 Egoism is surely an attitudinal/viewpoint change as much as it is a behavourial one. As a personal philosophy, I think egoism includes the idea that you can't be beholden to your impulses, which is basically the same as being virtuous, except it's not justified with a spooky foundation. But I would say your analysis is correct, but it's important to note the distinction between following a convention for the convention's sake, vs following the convention because it is a convenience. Stirner actually talks directly about this, saying something along the lines of ""just because I participate in xyz doesn't mean I want xyz to exist or that i must dedicate myself to xyz"", comparing this to simply climbing a ladder to reach a goal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503092109 138101641,138132744,2017-08-18 21:37:35,">>138119058 You don't find one, you make one. >>138131931 >""This means,"" he said, ""that we have beaten the French Revolution 40 to 1."" Fucking kek. Never trust a communist. Saved this image. Thanks bro. I'm going to show this to every commie I know.",,Anonymous,1433.png,9RogssL4q/J5EqxEZxqPiA==,PT,,1503092255 138101641,138132762,2017-08-18 21:37:44,">>138132418 >implying abortion doesn't primarily affect minorities, especially blacks",,Anonymous,pregnancy_fig2.png,ASwZ3acRqFLp8wZalMcFBQ==,,,1503092264 138101641,138132905,2017-08-18 21:39:09,">>138132418 Most babies who are aborted are from minorities. Babies who are retarded should be aborted either way. It's not to you, me or the state to decide on that matter, it's reserved to the mother, the father and their families. Let the community judge who is a good person or not.",,Anonymous,decentralization.png,/qpBa22Z7Qc9bb9cJhQGlA==,PT,,1503092349 138101641,138133010,2017-08-18 21:40:09,">>138132418 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuoepBsv3ZE",,Anonymous,lrg vs lp 2.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,PT,,1503092409 138101641,138133454,2017-08-18 21:43:40,">>138132477 That's not something I'm very much against, and in fact I believe it may be the way people operate, making egoism not so much a prescriptive as a descriptive doctrine. A spook, then, would simply be one form of the venerable ""false consciousness"". I remember reading something by John Gray (""The silence of animals"") in which he describes a breakdown in social conventions brought about by a war and the destruction of a city. Presumably, at that moment, when people started to behave in ways that approximated animals better than humans, they realized that their ""humanity"" was contingent on the existence of an order that didn't push them to their limits. That realization basically traumatized the people who lived through it all. I have no doubt it would also traumatize an egoist. >>138132744 I love reading about commies inefficiencies. It's fascinating.",,Anonymous,conquest - war communist planning.png,JPdi7jFxqQ8KQMruLl+i1w==,,,1503092620 138101641,138133745,2017-08-18 21:45:57,">>138131368 >DO SHROOMS ITS LIKE A WINDSHIELD WIPER FOR YOUR THIRD EYE. The self exists the way a reflection in a pond exists. Karma colors the individual's perception of reality and thus the reality they can possible know, which in turn shapes the way they perceive reality to begin with. This illusory reality of the self is what is lost by expanding your consciousness, and the ultimate goal of moksha/nirvana would be to have freedom from karma and perceive the true universal reality. I think the confusion arises because the process aspect is not emphasized enough. It's not as though once you read text telling you about non-duality, you are immediately appreciative of this and have achieved moksha. Rather, having understood each individual is colored by their own karma as well as your karma from the way you perceive them, your perceived outlook in life, now beginning to reflect your appreciation of the color of karma, begins to expand and free itself of karma. If you think of karma as dirt, the more dirt you realized is on your camera lens the clearer you can make your camera lens by wiping off the dirt you see.",,Anonymous,1489880551924.gif,U9cmPAy41wue7hRX1SNEsA==,US,,1503092757 138101641,138133816,2017-08-18 21:46:42,">>138133454 I laughed a lot when I was reading Sowell's Basic Economics and he mentioned those two Soviet economists who admitted the entire thing was a failure, and that factories were immense clusterfucks because the workers didn't have authorization to buy more tools to replace old or defective ones. And how most of the farmland that actually fed the country was privately owned because the state-run farms were shitholes.",,Anonymous,kinsella 8-12.jpg,8yjb8djlA9QYKTuWjLL+Ew==,PT,,1503092802 138101641,138134230,2017-08-18 21:50:19,">>138133816 I downloaded the original book from which many of the stuff he mentioned is taken. It's called ""Turning point"".",,Anonymous,turning point wastes.png,7neSFgHbXCXGA4cVXR7YRg==,,,1503093019 138101641,138134579,2017-08-18 21:53:26,">>138134230 Are the three quotes you posted from the same book? Who is/are the author/s?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503093206 138101641,138135132,2017-08-18 21:57:49,">>138134579 The two first are from Richard Pipes' book ""A concise history of the russian revolution"" (I mistakenly attributed them to Robert Conquest. Conquest is the author of a book about the Bolshevik persecution of the Ukrainians, called ""The harvest of sorrow."") The last quote is from ""Turning point: revitalizing the soviet economy"", which is what Sowell relied on a lot to get his material about what the effects of the absence of a price system were.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503093469 138101641,138135161,2017-08-18 21:58:06,">>138132762 >>138132905 Nice buffer issue, faggots. Contraception still wipes out (""prevents"" as some say) way more white babies than abortion can ever hope to make up for. >>138133010 I like Hoppe, and as a Monarchist support privatization of the State, even though I do not see myself as a Libertarian per se.",,Anonymous,contraceptiveballs4.png,av6lNZItZVizdBaqQ5WgjA==,,,1503093486 138101641,138135646,2017-08-18 22:02:16,">>138135161 I'd really like to know how much of that is actually due to income. Rich people just don't have babies, i.e. they plan their pregnancies better.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503093736 138101641,138135681,2017-08-18 22:02:32,">>138131682 a rabbit stumbles on a dog in the bushes. the dog is covered head to paws in tics that are all completely engorged with its blood. rabbit says, ""holy fuck man. want me to pick these tics off of you?"" dog says, ""no. I have very little blood left. by removing the tics, you'll only open up spots for more to start sucking, and before their thirsts are quenched, I'll lose what blood I have left"" Aristocracy = you keep your tics, and they're already fat by the time they get to you Democracy = every four years you swap out your fattened tics for a fresh bunch who fought tooth and nail to get to you and are thirsty as all hell democracy could only be supported by the lowest common denominator it gives voice to: complete retardation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503093752 138101641,138135762,2017-08-18 22:03:19,">>138135646 Rich people have always conceived less children due to the fact they are less likely to use sex as a form of entertainment, and often have less free time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503093799 138101641,138135998,2017-08-18 22:05:23,">>138133454 Politically, it really is basically just ancap minus the NAP. The best way to think of egoism as a political doctrine is to consider each egoist a one-man nation, where the property (their ""borders"") are whatever they can control (which includes, minimally, their bodies). They get to control all of the policies on their nation, and they are all nationalistic to specifically their nation. They want to procure for their nation, the most benefits (the best food, the best resources, etc), and they want to accomplish whatever their national agenda is. Sometimes, they might team together with other nations with which they can accomplish problems together, but are not beholden to (consider how the US acts with the the UN, for example.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1503093923 138101641,138136082,2017-08-18 22:06:09,">>138135132 >Richard Pipes' book ""A concise history of the russian revolution"" >""Turning point: revitalizing the soviet economy"" Added to my backlog. TY.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503093969 138101641,138136169,2017-08-18 22:06:58,">>138135646 >>138135762 I guess I should elaborate: You can probably just look up fertility rates before/after legalization of contraceptives and take a look. Many rich people even abort their children. In fact, it was quite disproportionate in at least one US statistic I saw years back.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503094018 138101641,138136306,2017-08-18 22:08:13,What the fuck happened to Cantwell?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1503094093 138101641,138136494,2017-08-18 22:09:52,">>138136082 This one is a an actual quote from ""Harvest of sorrow"".",,Anonymous,conquest - communist relations.png,FS4xur7+zgCnpeDsswoIjg==,,,1503094192 138101641,138136577,2017-08-18 22:10:33,">>138136306 He gave the Vice bitch too many soundbytes and showed her all the guns he was bringing to the rally. The documentary went viral around the world (even here they were talking about him on TV) and he then posted a video on YouTube where he was almost crying and saying how he feared the cops were going to kill him and that he would turn himself in. All his social media accounts were deleted.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503094233 138101641,138136588,2017-08-18 22:10:40,">>138136082 Oh by the way what are you reading right now? I'm always interested to know what people are reading. >>138136306 Was he a libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503094240 138101641,138136691,2017-08-18 22:11:30,">>138135998 To add on to this, sometimes this nation might want to annex another nation, or some property of a nation, but generally it's best to form trade pacts with the nation, and to do business voluntarily.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503094290 138101641,138136742,2017-08-18 22:11:57,">>138136577 God that dude fucked himself so hard. I can't believe he actually uploaded that shit, he has to be completely unstable to thinking crying to the internet is a good idea.",,Anonymous,1491575429696.jpg,Hr81SB0xLAImVhmA2E22nQ==,US,,1503094317 138101641,138136786,2017-08-18 22:12:19,">>138136588 Nothing in particular. I haven't read anything since Reactionary Liberty. I'm thinking about reading Liberty or Equality by Kuehnelt-Leddihn, or perhaps one of the race books I bought a while ago.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503094339 138101641,138137453,2017-08-18 22:17:50,">>138136742 I know, right? What a fucking idiot. The worst thing is that I don't even think he's undercover or trying to hurt the movement, he's just unstable by default. Man, 2016 was looking so bright and this year we're being crushed.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503094670 138101641,138137957,2017-08-18 22:21:58,">>138137453 Don't lose hope. The battle for liberty is painful, but it will be worth it, if there's even a little hope for a return to natural order.",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-11-01.53.06.jpg,ybcYaHy0jYJmBD7XgF/k9g==,US,,1503094918 138101641,138138185,2017-08-18 22:24:01,">>138137453 You could already see in 2016 that there wouldn't be much to sustain the movement in the intermediate term, simply because Trump does not represent an ideology but simply a feeling from a subsection of the white group of being under attack. There's no sophisticated articulation of these sentiments represented by any sort of elite -- hence it being called ""populist"". The only attempt at such an articulation was made by people who merely bought into a coarse biological determinism thesis about human biodiversity, which is interesting in its own right but is not sufficient to present a view of society, say much less to counter act the hegemonic progressive view of the liberals, supported as it is by state monies and an army of state priest preaching the good news of the generic human type. Now the progressive forces are on full display, using the white nationalist to whip up their own troops, elevating a marginal element of society to a threat that's supposed to be more serious than Islam. They're in full control. They don't just have the deep state but deep media and deep academia.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503095041 138101641,138138218,2017-08-18 22:24:18,">>138137453 I knew the guy was bad news from the start, I saw some of his vids and he's a total freakin autist. Many of these ""big"" people in the movement are this. Ramz is right about Alt-Right, there are good ideas out there, but it's executed horribly and led by incompetent autists who LARP around and only want attention/money to look cool with their shitty haircut. Stickman is one example. Propped up as some LE BASED MAN etc. Does nothing but whore himself out for money. It's all a scam, I hope the economy crashes so an actual movement emerges and liquidates these fucks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503095058 138101641,138139064,2017-08-18 22:31:03,">>138138218 A movement, to live, needs an elite and possibly zealot in order to propel it forward. One of the thing that has happened ever since WWII is that the new elites, which is to say high IQ, high productivity people, have mostly been monopolized by some version or another of the left, leaving the right with very thin ranked spread over various ideologies. That's a big problem for us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503095463 138101641,138139321,2017-08-18 22:33:27,">>138139064 Who do we have of those ""elites""? Jared Taylor? Peter Thiel? I can't think of any more. And even so, Thiel is the only one with enough money to make a dent. >>138138218 >>138138185 R.I.P.",,Anonymous,friend is physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,PT,,1503095607 138101641,138139681,2017-08-18 22:36:49,">>138101641 Individualism is a cattle fence that only white people believe in",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503095809 138101641,138140107,2017-08-18 22:40:23,">>138132418 you are in the wrong general my dude",,Anonymous,,,,,1503096023 138101641,138140906,2017-08-18 22:46:58,">>138139321 Jared Taylor falls precisely in the category of those people I have mentioned who believe in some form or another of biological determinism, and decided that the way forward was to ascribe a positive value to an entity called ""the white race"" and to then try to convince people to defend that entity. I'm not saying that this is a wrong view but I am saying that it is inadequate. For one thing, the research it relies on does not have much normative import, so that even if we were to agree with Taylor on the basic facts he put forward, we wouldn't have to agree with his social (demographic) prescriptions simply because IQ distributions don't have normative implications. But the deeper problem has to do wit the positing of this group -- white race -- which is then used by Taylor and his kind as a proxy for an individual characteristic, IQ. This is where even the normative formulation seems to break down somewhat. If what matter about the white race is IQ, then it means that what matter is not the race, but IQ. A ""good"" society will be one in which mean IQ is high as opposed to low. But since IQ is an individual characteristic, why stay at the group level to ensure a high mean IQ within society? What would follow from an objective of IQ maximization will not be ""the preservation of the white race"" but rather ""the maximization of IQ irrespective of race"". This follow from the fact that race is used as a proxy for IQ. In short, the obsession with IQ does not take us out of the framework of individualism, since IQ is an individual characteristic, and thus it can hardly be used to defend a race, which is a group. Spencer doesn't see this apparently. As far as I know, Taylor neither.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503096418 138101641,138141103,2017-08-18 22:48:47,">>138106626 Well shit nigger what about murder, theft, aggression, and rape? Why did you list your topics instead of those?",,Anonymous,anonsortyourselfout.jpg,+sibPX7vdZv0wFLFKvVWyQ==,,,1503096527 138101641,138141298,2017-08-18 22:50:26,>>138111119,,Anonymous,ancaplemonade.jpg,o6yc78mKWnbUGI/qoTEp/w==,,,1503096626 138101641,138141955,2017-08-18 22:55:58,">>138140906 Taylor goes further than IQ, he also talks about culture, law, art, etc. And basically says without whites modern civilization crumbles. I agree that, in theory, we could say that what we want is a high IQ society (which would anyway get rid of some blacks), but we must not forget that studies show that people simply prefer to be among their kind. He uses that ""wealthy blacks move to black neighborhoods just like wealthy whites move to white neighborhoods"" argument. I would still wish socialist whites to be removed.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503096958 138101641,138142172,2017-08-18 22:57:51,">>138141298 >AK-47 reeeee",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503097071 138101641,138142549,2017-08-18 23:01:14,"ok /lrg/ so originally this was just one post that kept going and going until I had to condense it as an image lul if anybody can stomach the tl;dr, very interested in what you lads might think about it",,Anonymous,question.png,XdHiGWuiu+cwdm6aouwDlA==,US,,1503097274 138101641,138142851,2017-08-18 23:03:35,">>138142549 You're using the expression ""true best interest"" so you lost me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503097415 138101641,138143199,2017-08-18 23:06:34,">>138121683 >and apolitical modest girls with a natural cuteness which I would prefer are also rare to a degree that I only can speculate if they are like this when I see them in the streets from time to time. Tfw",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20161125-225802.png,LAx7vEODZ77ZiaWRPR/dTA==,PT,,1503097594 138101641,138143305,2017-08-18 23:07:32,">>138142851 in the context of what I wrote, maybe I should of clarified that bit further as free market capitalism and a staunchly anti-communist position",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503097652 138101641,138143604,2017-08-18 23:10:19,">>138103760 How can I join the discord? I don't want to die",,Anonymous,,,,,1503097819 138101641,138143830,2017-08-18 23:12:14,">>138143305 When people get in the business of defining what the ""true"" interest of someone -- or worse, a group -- is, we enter into abstract and ethical considerations that are such that the ""true"" interest will invariably mean ""the thing the author prefers"". The reasoning then goes as follow: 1. No one would willingly chose to go against his true interests. 2. People who do so thus only do it through ignorance. 3. It would be in the true interests of people to force them to act in accordance with their true interests. 4. I am thus justified of doing just that. And, of course, various people interpret ""true interests"" as meaning whatever it is that they themselves find at the bottom of their soul, so that a communist could very well dream up an invisible communist government sending reactionary elements to the gulag, instead of a secret minarchist government throwing socialist out of helicopters. Not that I hate helicopters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503097934 138101641,138143988,2017-08-18 23:13:41,What do you think of Bryan caplan?,,Anonymous,,,CO,,1503098021 138101641,138144069,2017-08-18 23:14:27,">>138142549 No. First, free flowing information is the cornerstone of free market decision-making, and since free market decision-making is mathematically always optimal, anything less than free flowing information is always a sub-optimal utility maximization schemata. Second, the wisdom of crowds requires independent thinking, which requires some individuals to necessarily be below average or fringe in order to balance out the distribution of opinions. Otherwise, the market of opinions is inefficient. t. Behaviorial Economists",,Anonymous,1490568915700.png,dWIOhVqD0A1xZai61AJe2Q==,US,,1503098067 138101641,138144108,2017-08-18 23:14:45,">>138126774 I think Hoppe, /pol/ memes and websites like Liberty Hangout or The Liberty Conservative propelled right libertarianism. NRx died after Land had his breakdown and Moldbug hasnt really been useful the past years. So naturally the normies flocked to the LP because they werent exposed to NRx. Hopefully that will change. I love NRx.",,Anonymous,1493026316916.png,Yu1ZHueNGESOb9WnP7Gazw==,PT,,1503098085 138101641,138144791,2017-08-18 23:20:52,">>138143830 What you have said is true and I apologize for poor use of wording. Really, the crux of what was meant to be conveyed is to say one thing, and then do another, with the other being their ""true intention"" rather than the expressed one. >>138144069 I don't understand. Economically, it is a free market. In no way would any market decision be obstructed, just said to be as part of the facade. About the wisdom of crowds and independent thinking, the same applies. Basically I was just wondering if the idea of a purposefully deceptive political ideology exists, or if it's even applicable within a libertarian or free market platform.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503098452 138101641,138144912,2017-08-18 23:22:03,">>138144791 *libertarian and capitalist to the minimal extent possible, obviously not the point of eliminating itself since this is still technically a statist operation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503098523 138101641,138145952,2017-08-18 23:30:55,">>138144791 >purposely deceptive >free flow of information Are you alright? Do (you) have brain damage?",,Anonymous,questionmarkgirl4.jpg,jEfnRdshItTPvHTOHyFGeQ==,US,,1503099055 138101641,138147007,2017-08-18 23:40:10,">>138145952 I see your point and how it may compound towards influencing business economically, however I must disagree if you had meant to imply any kind of contradiction between purposeful deception and free flow of information. Omitting and withholding information isn't necessarily stopping free flow of information: you have just as much freedom not to say anything as you have to say something. There is an area of half-truths and many aspects of informational evasion while maintaining free flow. The information is no way obstructed, it is still free to circulate. But again yes, I do see your point on how it may affect the market. Nonetheless the base of my idea is not to physically remove communists in the open, but in their sleep and in the dark.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503099610 138101641,138147172,2017-08-18 23:41:35,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502431400000-1.jpg,FakOoEjV+ifNDWz0N2kGVA==,US,,1503099695 138101641,138147334,2017-08-18 23:43:04,">>138144108 Land had a breakdown? Do you just mean his views diverged from you, an anonymous poster on a Serbian gay calligraphy forum?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503099784 138101641,138147736,2017-08-18 23:46:39,This one isn't my OC,,Anonymous,1487109107598.png,/jtbl7UQsoomIFq0fpZbKQ==,US,,1503099999 138101641,138148048,2017-08-18 23:49:03,">>138147334 No. From what I hear he snapped and now lives in Shanghai. Shills for accelerationism.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503100143 138101641,138148715,2017-08-18 23:55:17,">>138147334 http://hollaforums.com/thread/708007/activism/how-do-you-argue-against-nick-land.html See if you can make any sense of this.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503100517 138101641,138148738,2017-08-18 23:55:27,">>138148048 >now lives in Shanghai I truly, truly loathe white people going to Asia and unironically want them lynched.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503100527 138101641,138148756,2017-08-18 23:55:39,">>138148048 he has been an accelerationist for as long as he has been a neoreactionary...one is method, the other is goal the nigger is still tweeting and blogging daily fyi",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503100539 138101641,138149444,2017-08-19 00:02:00,">>138148738 Why desu? Singapore is okay.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503100920 138101641,138149765,2017-08-19 00:04:59,">>138148715 again fyi he tweets by the name @Outsideness and his blog is linked on his twitter seems like he followed postmodernism into some dark corners of his own psyche, and emerged a neoreactionary. He is still a neoreactionary. He is still writing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503101099 138101641,138149895,2017-08-19 00:06:09,"AnCaps are so dumb; how the fuck are you even going to have roads, morons? Gas yourselves.",,Anonymous,baitberserk.jpg,GOHt3+53vGK24OKOBbIZpQ==,,,1503101169 138101641,138150107,2017-08-19 00:08:16,">>138149444 To be sure it is, but no white deserves to escape to Asian pasture after having let their own country be irrevocably fucked by diversity. None deserve to escape, and the Asians don't deserve to have their country diversified by these vermin. And yeah I'm white.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503101296 138101641,138150509,2017-08-19 00:12:01,>>138149895,,Anonymous,317.png,Zf5w88L9xoGZMW/soe2V0Q==,,,1503101521 138101641,138150575,2017-08-19 00:12:35,">>138149765 Good to know hes okay. >>138150107 Fair enough. I agree to some extent.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503101555 138101641,138150846,2017-08-19 00:15:34,">>138150509 Gimme more bait memes",,Anonymous,hankhill.gif,Fq9fV3TuIQCuCfdZk4yYDQ==,US,,1503101734 138101641,138151594,2017-08-19 00:23:04,">>138101641 Who is second from the right in the banner? It's really really hard to recognize these people without their iconic noses. Also, how do you plan to win the war of hearts and minds over the normies? Is your go-to spokesperson (to reach mainstream status) still Ron Paul?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503102184 138101641,138151751,2017-08-19 00:24:40,"What do you faggots think of Mike Maloney? I think the Hidden Secrets of Money are great for normies to turn into radical libertarians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0",,Anonymous,questionmarkgirl3.jpg,1bN0y8AlGa9hSa084x+BPA==,US,,1503102280 138101641,138151921,2017-08-19 00:26:18,">>138151594 were you referring to Mises?",,Anonymous,ludwig-von-mises-6.jpg,jlyvpUhw6jBJn0h6GQhOGg==,US,,1503102378 138101641,138152676,2017-08-19 00:33:00,">>138151921 Yep. That's the nose I was looking for.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503102780 138101641,138152842,2017-08-19 00:34:38,Can we have some more sneks in the tread?,,Anonymous,se6m8w1u32zx.png,BdekQhjDRDsAbE0m6/qusg==,US,,1503102878 138101641,138153152,2017-08-19 00:37:21,>>138152842,,Anonymous,we're full.jpg,8HrPFAGAiSxAYhjM1M6pmg==,AU,,1503103041 138101641,138153392,2017-08-19 00:39:29,">>138153152 this one always makes me giggle",,Anonymous,1496880945220.png,eL402hioQUdHBWSVu99CUg==,,,1503103169 138101641,138153659,2017-08-19 00:42:02,">>138153392 what the hell would a society of stirners even look like? they'd just keep trespassing each other? I feel like stirner can only work if everyone else doesn't follow it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503103322 138101641,138153699,2017-08-19 00:42:19,">>138153392 Stop shitting in the only thread that might possibly appreciate you, senpai.",,Anonymous,1502352619978.jpg,ekyKI26aLpxsby+04M4ixA==,,,1503103339 138101641,138153835,2017-08-19 00:43:30,">>138153659 It looks exactly like AnCap except everyone is a crudgy old racist man that responds to everything like pic related; i.e. exactly the same as functional AnCap",,Anonymous,idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.gif,6YiTX4CSFV0LVKDsRHUnbw==,,,1503103410 138101641,138154011,2017-08-19 00:45:20,">>138153835 probably, yeah",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503103520 138101641,138154020,2017-08-19 00:45:24,Who's baking? How does one bake? I have nothing better to do on Friday nights; I am willing to bake /lrg/ for a bit if one could teach a newfag,,Anonymous,ancap_gotime.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,,,1503103524 138101641,138154079,2017-08-19 00:45:56,">>138153392 But that's stupid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503103556 138101641,138154132,2017-08-19 00:46:30,">>138154011 Checked; so we really have no beef with the stirner fags at all; but bantz are good for bumping the thread. How very libertarian of you.",,Anonymous,snek.jpg,4xISE/bg7Awam4wvtCDQ/A==,,,1503103590 138101641,138154167,2017-08-19 00:46:49,>>138101641,,Anonymous,ancap pron.jpg,sGcS+yAufYn8UJSoLVkIxQ==,US,,1503103609 138101641,138154235,2017-08-19 00:47:24,">>138154132 I just like shitposting",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503103644 138101641,138154339,2017-08-19 00:48:33,">>138154079 Expand your mind, nigguh. Will you really find happiness when you have collected all the rare pokemon, or do you enjoy spending your time with the pokemon you hold dearest?",,Anonymous,spurdomon.jpg,COvRkJ1AovcEtvg/c1RUNA==,,,1503103713 138101641,138154374,2017-08-19 00:48:57,">>138153659 Refer to my earlier posts about geopolitics as a model for egoism. >>138135998 and >>138136691 >>138153699 >>138154079 Relax you silly goys, I won't take my property from you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503103737 138101641,138154467,2017-08-19 00:49:49,">>138154235 This is ultimately why libertarianism is correct. Because shitposting is worth protecting :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD",,Anonymous,spurdolocks.png,de7wjYLmkUeqrypiSX+tGQ==,,,1503103789 138101641,138154558,2017-08-19 00:50:57,">>138154374 hmm seems fair enough >>138154467 freedom of speech is freedom to shitpost t. burger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503103857 138101641,138154610,2017-08-19 00:51:32,">>138101641 who would own the natural resources? Who would own the fertile land? How the AnCap expect to defend against foreign power? AnCaps, do a trial run for a month and see how you'd get by. A State power will always exist.",,Anonymous,Fantasy-Road.jpg,vJEHoWo6Exy48WohyMVE2g==,US,,1503103892 138101641,138154674,2017-08-19 00:52:23,">>138154610 now this is shitposting",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503103943 138101641,138154800,2017-08-19 00:53:43,"NEW BREAD: >>138154699 >>138154699 >>138154699 NEW BREAD: >>138154699 >>138154699 >>138154699",,Anonymous,getthefuckout.gif,dECHu2kV3V+APQwyRmWYjQ==,,,1503104023 138101641,138154827,2017-08-19 00:54:02,">>138154610 >who would own the natural resources? However can claim and defend it the quickest. >Who would own the fertile land? See above. >How the AnCap expect to defend against foreign power? The same as I would defend against any other power: using some form of force. >AnCaps, do a trial run for a month and see how you'd get by. A State power will always exist. Doesn't mean I have to acknowledge and respect that state power. Pic related.",,Anonymous,1501042293403.png,okD0PMOV50ALRPGhIiA7Xw==,,,1503104042 138101641,138154867,2017-08-19 00:54:19,">>138154558 Nigger I protected your speech so hard I made a new bread for you to shitpost in.",,Anonymous,(you)_cute.png,0F4MNJswXglCO8gVSWvIGA==,,,1503104059 138101641,138155105,2017-08-19 00:56:48,">>138154867 exgellend :DDDD",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503104208 138154699,138154699,2017-08-19 00:52:41,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General - It's always Sunny Edition,Anonymous,lrg.jpg,s/BUqDPGCg4NWzIg9Wao7g==,,,1503103961 138154699,138154967,2017-08-19 00:55:25,,,Anonymous,1483222244602426666.jpg,0+TMYcpiLpTHczwALctrcg==,,,1503104125 138154699,138155237,2017-08-19 00:58:05,">>138154967 Holy shit so all I have to do to make sure /lrg/ becomes /ptg/ is to stay awake and keep baking new breads?",,Anonymous,ancap_gotime.jpg,jpKIts7CfZnnUooVWv9fjg==,,,1503104285 138154699,138155402,2017-08-19 00:59:42,">>138155237 basically",,Anonymous,1489063397341.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1503104382 138154699,138155415,2017-08-19 00:59:52,">>138154699 wow that was rly organized well done whoever posted this.....dont know half the shit u said like faux-libertarains but watev not rly into this stuff rly but still organized good job",,Anonymous,175440771.jpg,n3BycR1SeX5cmZiQrzP+tw==,,,1503104392 138154699,138155516,2017-08-19 01:00:57,">>138155402 I didn't realize it was that fucking easy. Should I add shit to the pastebin or do people even give a shit about the OP?",,Anonymous,questionmarkgirl2.jpg,Ic6ESBxCDZcVUXBCuXi10A==,,,1503104457 138154699,138155799,2017-08-19 01:03:39,">>138155516 pastebin? what? lmfao nobody reads that shit. You're here to combat and counter people who look at the word ""capitalism"" or ""libertarian"" and then spew memes from muh roads to what if the child consents tho there is no OP, only you and shitpost after shitpost",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503104619 138154699,138155865,2017-08-19 01:04:12,">>138155516 Nobody is gonna read the pastebin, we're just going to shitpost here regardless.",,Anonymous,35222256651483222244602.png,G4taFLPA7ayetM9SR6Pw5g==,,,1503104652 138154699,138156299,2017-08-19 01:09:00,">>138155799 I like the sound of that. You mean it's my job to defend /lrg/ from shills, communists, and other statists?",,Anonymous,1497487056992.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,,,1503104940 138154699,138156414,2017-08-19 01:10:15,">>138156299 it's kinda cheating on dead hours where nobody will post unironic bait",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503105015 138154699,138156427,2017-08-19 01:10:21,">>138155865 Excellent. A contest of wills, so to speak. >>138155799 Forgot to check.",,Anonymous,1502423249318.png,lEuuT3i2A5isIOmEq+QQNg==,,,1503105021 138154699,138156534,2017-08-19 01:11:33,friendly reminder that in order to safeguard liberty we must take action against the egalitarian virus and fascism is the antibody,,Anonymous,,,,,1503105093 138154699,138156722,2017-08-19 01:13:28,">>138156414 We need to recruit; the leftists are really good at attracting low IQ flies but we need a refuge for high IQ non-statists to yellowpill the lurkers.",,Anonymous,1488495540068.png,gchCiGmPhEMh3sVOTVCitQ==,,,1503105208 138154699,138156887,2017-08-19 01:15:12,">>138156534 Friendly reminder fascism is a spook and everything would be fine if people would fuck off.",,Anonymous,fuckoff.gif,RffOMXskH9qth3KfOXUSSg==,,,1503105312 138154699,138156893,2017-08-19 01:15:18,">>138156534 friendly reminder that liberty is a spook and that your own power is the only thing that can guarantee your freedom i bet they didn't teach you that in high school, did they? make sure to take that stirnpill with some food, lest you get a bellyache.",,Anonymous,1494639884062.jpg,o3QgOtEIIzLbzEjIWup2BA==,,,1503105318 138154699,138156907,2017-08-19 01:15:29,">>138156722 makes sense >>138156534 >fascism is the antibody does NatSoc count?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503105329 138154699,138157056,2017-08-19 01:16:52,">>138156907 Don't fall for the spook. If you have enough money, it doesn't matter what color their skin is, they're still a monkey subhuman slave.",,Anonymous,ancap_yinyang.jpg,A7/DlEoiOhmljCA7qKNXFQ==,,,1503105412 138154699,138157146,2017-08-19 01:17:47,">>138156887 >everything would be fine if people would fuck off. they're not going to fuck off, they need to be phyically removed >>138156893 >friendly reminder that liberty is a spook equality is a spook. liberty naturally arises when you leave people the fuck alone, it's the default state >>138156907 >does NatSoc count? all anti-liberal ideologies should be in coalition to stamp out communism",,Anonymous,,,,,1503105467 138154699,138157809,2017-08-19 01:24:21,Is anyone here a free stater in New Hampshire?,,Anonymous,1469929244516.jpg,CacvPyo3ivDpQdYMGgcZLQ==,CA,,1503105861 138154699,138158214,2017-08-19 01:28:36,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.23.44.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,US,,1503106116 138154699,138158292,2017-08-19 01:29:26,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502913433000.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,US,,1503106166 138154699,138158400,2017-08-19 01:30:38,,,Anonymous,prabudroid_1503087121568.gif,iUakj9WwjeBHNNwP1uNvtw==,US,,1503106238 138154699,138158974,2017-08-19 01:36:39,">>138157146 >liberty naturally arises when you leave people the fuck alone But you bet your ass I'm not going to leave people the fuck alone, I'm going to claim what I can, so I say to you again, your liberty (liberty here being defined as some arbitrary set of """"""rights"""""" that I must follow) is as much a spook as casper.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503106599 138154699,138158987,2017-08-19 01:36:43,"Good night, /lrg/.",,Anonymous,glitchr_1502718827000.jpg,G5F80BlpxVSIZO1WIS+QIg==,US,,1503106603 138154699,138159188,2017-08-19 01:39:01,">>138158974 >being criminal scum Fascism is the radical idea of physically removing communists, criminals, and degenerates to ensure the law-abiding traditionalist native citizen can live a free life. Enjoy your time in the camps.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503106741 138154699,138159415,2017-08-19 01:41:25,"Libertarians are right about a lot of things, but major mistakes include: 1. Individuality, like anything, requires a social norm for its defense. Otherwise all the faggots around you will just vote to steal your shit (happens in the West now) or worse (e.g. shitskins will assault & rob, desert goat fuckers will rape and explod). You had to get all ""enlightened anti-Theist"" and lose all sense of community. 2. Any progress on any libertarian front is progress. WRONG! >legalize it bro before removing the social welfare system brings what? More fucking stoners. (And not even the kind that are semi-productive, like yourselves.) More degradation of borders so cucks in Cali and Arizona can get a cheap pool built destroys economic opportunities for young people (mowing lawns, unskilled building work, even fucking McDonald's jobs). Protect your group because they protect you. Even White Nationalists understood this before you did.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503106885 138154699,138159436,2017-08-19 01:41:40,"Capitalism is the only moral system ever devised. And the best. And even the kindest. The only reason there is ever any doubt about the wonders of Capitalism is because it lacked a philisophical base at it's outset. Historically cuckservative Republicans have tried to justify it on the basis of Altruism. To which it is incompatible and, make no mistake, rest assured that Altruism is the great primordial evil of the world. Reminder that Ayn Rand and Objectivism is our most powerful tool. I do not exaggerate. Hers was the strongest attack on commie and Nazi Statism ever witnessed. Every movement needs epistemological validation and metaphysical defining and Objectivism provides this and then some. Do not write of one of the greatest philosophers to ever walk the face of the earth just because you've been ingrained with some maymays about her. Our glorious Constution, the document that set the engine that is humanity free, is completed by Ayn Rand in what it lacked, the ONLY thing the US founding fathers lacked; a rejection of the primordial evil that is Altruism. I would add Objectivism, whose essence had been stated in ""the right to the pursuit of happiness"". But only implicitly. Objectivism states the amazing advent that is the American morality explictly. Cultural Marxists and 'Nazis' are terrified of Ayn Rand as she represents the American Constution completed. Epistemologically validated, metaphysically defined, and ethically expanded, Objectivism is the greatest threat Commies have ever encountered which is why they cannot even bear to have it discussed as a philosophy.",,Anonymous,1499555876109.jpg,xnh5dSvIa+iQULJkw4JRxw==,US,,1503106900 138154699,138159740,2017-08-19 01:45:02,">>138156893 Friendly reminder that Ayn Rand>Max Striner>>>Frederick Nietzsche as far as Egoists go. There is a reason why leftypol and /lit/ like le spookman so much",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503107102 138154699,138159857,2017-08-19 01:46:19,">>138159188 >criminals >law >native citizen >free life",,Anonymous,1490994989300.jpg,IadeA3Q0lJzF6sC2HoTavg==,,,1503107179 138154699,138159888,2017-08-19 01:46:35,">>138159436 >>138159740 Ayn Rand was unironically a genius RLs need to stop cucking to natsocs and trying to distance themselves from her",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503107195 138154699,138160078,2017-08-19 01:48:30,">>138159857 >everything is literally a spook now this is pirateposting",,Anonymous,,,,,1503107310 138154699,138160215,2017-08-19 01:49:55,">>138159740 Ayn Rand's philosophies are as spooked as any other, subscribing to morals and the such as the basis for society. Better than other ideologies, to be sure, but ultimately, followers are still slaves to the ideology. Stirner is the simplest of your list, where the only spook you follow is the idea that you should remain spook-free. >There is a reason why leftypol and /lit/ like le spookman so much Stirner is appropriated by leftys because of his contemporaries, and because Stirner was, himself, left leaning. Egoism is by no means a left-leaning (or any direction leaning) ideology.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503107395 138154699,138160468,2017-08-19 01:52:42,">>138160078 All off those things literally are spooks. >criminals Spooks because you're replacing the uniqueness of an individual with a label that is not them. >law Ideas that you are obligated to follow, the literal definition of a spook. >native citizen Spook for a similar reason as criminal. >free life Spook because you're already free, but you choose to stay imprisoned by your obligation to the spooks. (Or, at the very least, you stay so out of habit.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1503107562 138154699,138160571,2017-08-19 01:53:53,">>138159888 I posit that Aristotle, John Locke (Thomas Jefferson alternatively), and Ayn Rand are the 3 greatest individuals to walk the face of the earth. Aristotle for being the father of the scientific method. John Locke/Thomas Jefferson for being the fathers of America, political Individualism and Liberalism. Ayn Rand for being the the mother of the forst moral justification of Capitalism and the first formulated meta-philosophy, Objectivism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503107633 138154699,138161191,2017-08-19 02:00:19,">>138160571 I think ""3 greatest individuals ever"" is too specific for me to decisively pick, but those are all good choices",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503108019 138154699,138161219,2017-08-19 02:00:33,">>138160215 >but ultimately, followers are still slaves to the ideology. Objectivism neither needs nor tolerates slaves of the mind. >Stirner is the simplest of your list, where the only spook you follow is the idea that you should remain spook-free. Striner can be sumated and discarded by the indentification of what he was: an egoist nihilist. Fuck nihilism, it is little more than philisophical cowardice. Ayn Rand's critisicm of Nihilism (through her dismantling of Immanuel Kant) and Anarchism (through Frederick Nietzsche) in 'Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal' is adamantine-clad and unassailable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503108033 138154699,138161268,2017-08-19 02:01:00,"The purpose of Awoo is to avoid conflict, not create it.",,Anonymous,hoppe-awoo-old.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,US,,1503108060 138154699,138161918,2017-08-19 02:08:50,">>138161219 I'll admit, I haven't read the work she had written you mentioned, though I'm not sure how you could dismantle nihilism, considering it's the objective state of the universe (but I assume it's critiquing nihilism as an attitude, and not the objectivity of meaning). >Striner can be sumated and discarded by the indentification of what he was: an egoist nihilist. Fuck nihilism, it is little more than philisophical cowardice. Why should I care what other people consider ""philosophical cowardice""? Call it what you want, but you're the one enslaving yourself. Additionally, the mere fact that Ayn asserts that there is a purpose in life, and that there exist such a thing as individual rights, means that she is working with spooks. And if you're working with spooks, then you're a slave to something other than your will.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503108530 138154699,138161965,2017-08-19 02:09:23,">>138161191 Philosophy is unique as it tends to ensnare and mass-influence titanic amounts of people in a comparatively short span of time. From here one need only choose the 3 most fundamentally powerfull and transformative modes of thought and their creators. Thus my choices. Honestly Ayn Rand is the only questionable pick of the 3 as she was thurst into relative irrelevance by the still-powerfull establishment and died peniless. She did not acheive enough (yet), proven by the fact that no one has successfully started the Meritocratic Party. Always what the ""Republican Party"" should have been. Altruism is truly the final boss. It has been around so long it has even colored our dna. Capitalism (and civilization) on the other hand is so new it has yet to.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503108563 138154699,138162683,2017-08-19 02:18:27,">>138160571 >I posit that Aristotle, John Locke (Thomas Jefferson alternatively), and Ayn Rand are the 3 greatest individuals to walk the face of the earth. That's a bit of a stretch. Ayn Rand and John Locke were great individuals, but certainly not some of the greatest. Aristotle probably is though",,Anonymous,,,,,1503109107 138154699,138163360,2017-08-19 02:26:12,">>138162683 I say John Locke because he was necessarily the impetus behind the founding fathers and the founding fathers collectively most certainly do warrant a spot on ""the 3 greatest individuals"". As much as an Ayn Rand fanboy I am you are right: it IS a stretch to includ her. Objectivism has been shouted underground and has not yet taken hold. We need a man so start the Meritocratic Party and for gods sake we need a President to run and succeed on the ""Separation of state and economics"" platform. Then Rand can be included with full rectitude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503109572 138154699,138164251,2017-08-19 02:36:36,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1503110196 138154699,138164744,2017-08-19 02:42:47,"I built my property with my own two hands. Fuck the state and it's tail of leaches. Bumpedy-bump-bump.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503110567 138154699,138165337,2017-08-19 02:49:23,">>138161918 > Additionally, the mere fact that Ayn asserts that there is a purpose in life, and that there exist such a thing as individual rights All Ayn asserts is that mans life is an end in itself. And unlike anything Stirner ever purported; she explains why this is true metaphysically and how this works epistemologically.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503110963 138154699,138165609,2017-08-19 02:52:47,">>138164744 Can't build the land its on though can you faggot? Get fucked again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503111167 138175406,138175406,2017-08-19 05:08:19,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General - It's Go Time Edition,Anonymous,1487615583755.png,lqDdPHiRxdN3AsJSOmGDtw==,,,1503119299 138175406,138175511,2017-08-19 05:09:57,">>138175406 The secret is sleeping without air conditioning and having plenty of juice, /pol/",,Anonymous,EmMOTRBu.jpg,U4iFB40tbGPPTtOErP/Xng==,,,1503119397 138175406,138175532,2017-08-19 05:10:25,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-lnPk5SFrk I love Donald J Trump and everything he's done for the country (He's not even done yet) I love Alex Jones for everything he's exposed for the country (He's not even done yet) I love Jake Paul for everything he and the JakePaulers have done for California and the kids around the world uplifting them. (He's far from finished) I love PewDiePie for everything he's done to uplift manchildren around the world. (He's got a big future) I love Bill O'reilly for everything he's done to John Stewart. But most importantly I love Weird Al Yankovich for his active role in preventing nuclear holocaust. (More to come) You can take your co-opted political violence and race-baiting and shove it up your ass. I play video games mother fucker. Video Games. Tch,,, nothin personnel... kid... heh...heh...heh... politics? you mean that debate over who should benefit in society? Uhh how about NOT SOCIALISTS. National Socialism? For a continent that's ALWAYS BEEN multiethnic and multicultural? Guess again alt-left and alt-right and radical spacebars. The people who benefit in this society are those who earned their place with honest hard work and dedication to non-violence. Now if we're finished here I've got a marathon to complete... That's right, I'm playing every modern warfare game campaign in a row on the hardest difficulty. Yeah I die a lot, but I still will complete this task. I am a legend.",,Anonymous,wIGnl73l[1].jpg,DHE7/Xuy74G7a/uvlIqbXQ==,US,,1503119425 138175406,138175673,2017-08-19 05:12:16,"Thoughts on Daryle the Antifa Doxxer >>138175161",,Anonymous,DaryleLamontJenkinsHP_17031840092295.jpg,iASjrVg8pj0lm4Kc+eILbg==,US,,1503119536 138175406,138175820,2017-08-19 05:14:30,"When the US is balkanized, can we please colonize Florida? I can't stand cold weather up in NH.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503119670 138175406,138176342,2017-08-19 05:22:14,">>138175820 No, but you can book a great stay in McFlorida for the low, low, low we're practically giving it away price for .02 Bitcoins! If you call now, we'll even throw in an authentic everglades swamp nigger package! Enjoy the fiercesome everglades, populated with some of North America's most dangerous predators - including the American Alligator, the Burmese Python, and the Cajun Negroid! After your exciting adventure, be sure to stop at the gift shop!",,Anonymous,catcherfreeman.jpg,FrKucLCjQVkdwydacP+uzQ==,,,1503120134 138175406,138176485,2017-08-19 05:24:17,never miss a training session,,Anonymous,1502700327990.png,UGGAtAdCXLqn2dlzduTrVQ==,AU,,1503120257 138343246,138343246,2017-08-20 10:48:43,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/LRG/ Libertarian Right General - Hillary Clinton? A wonderful public servant - edition.,Anonymous,1503091635972.png,Ax4FLg4PngGMKJwJomWgCQ==,,,1503226123 138343246,138344755,2017-08-20 11:04:09,Shameless bump.,,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1503227049 138343246,138345531,2017-08-20 11:11:53,">>138344755 Bumping for ancap imoutos",,Anonymous,natural order.png,6rFDv6/FV6AEc0JJOOJR+w==,,,1503227513 138372394,138372394,2017-08-20 15:38:31,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw,/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1496446969810.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,,,1503243511 138372394,138372923,2017-08-20 15:43:35,"I'm a nationalist populist Redpill me on ancap",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1503243815 138372394,138373036,2017-08-20 15:44:33,">>138372923 you can still be a nationalist populist",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1503243873 138372394,138373095,2017-08-20 15:45:05,">>138372923 That except you use your private property rights to expel minorities and form white-only covenants >>138372394 Kill yourself for using that disgusting nigger song",,Anonymous,cantwell.jpg,GsAicDPtPhMK+BqS836QrA==,PT,,1503243905 138372394,138373150,2017-08-20 15:45:38,">>138372923 Be a natpop lil bish, let me control your money supply idgaf - Mayor Rothschild",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503243938 138372394,138373376,2017-08-20 15:47:43,">>138373095 You got me at expelling minorities",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1503244063 138372394,138373410,2017-08-20 15:48:05,">>138372394 The libertarian hedgehog is cooler than the elephant and donkey.",,Anonymous,6fb1acfcdf13b99b206b75c0a35fc89c--revolution-liberty.jpg,A7DwctsG15XDSmEFT5ZSyw==,,,1503244085 138372394,138373671,2017-08-20 15:50:20,">>138373410 But the snake is the best.",,Anonymous,donttreadonme.jpg,fBGLxDpJ2mhCCh8koqMPVQ==,US,,1503244220 138372394,138373755,2017-08-20 15:51:15,">>138373671 snek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503244275 138372394,138373863,2017-08-20 15:52:15,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1503244335 138372394,138373997,2017-08-20 15:53:22,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,US,,1503244402 138372394,138374112,2017-08-20 15:54:23,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_3.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,US,,1503244463 138372394,138374219,2017-08-20 15:55:12,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_4.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,US,,1503244512 138372394,138374273,2017-08-20 15:55:42,">>138372923 >private borders That is all you need to know about these kikes >lol who cares if millions of arabs invade your homeland as long as they dont step in your property lol ""Right"" libertarians is just as stupid as socialist libertarians, all these kikes care about is money and profits. Over anything, nation, culture, tradition. They say they would support all these things but the minute it interferes with their profits they will oppose it. Just look at free trade, the globalists most powerful took after open borders. ""Right"" libertarians will defend free trade to the last sheckel. For a better alternative look at Paleoconservatism. Patriotic old school conservatism. Defends small government and civil liberties, and opposes free trade and open borders, regardless of how hard it hits profits >>138373095 There you, ancaps with their private borders bullshit again. Stick with nationalist right wing populism, you want a country where you are not forced to form small islands of whites in a sea of arabs and africans like ancaps propose",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503244542 138372394,138374829,2017-08-20 16:00:35,">>138372394 /lrg/ best thread on /pol/",,Anonymous,,,,,1503244835 138372394,138375119,2017-08-20 16:02:53,,,Anonymous,lrg_open_borders.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,US,,1503244973 138372394,138375262,2017-08-20 16:04:10,,,Anonymous,capitalismVSothers.png,Da8tZlwNgNjNEwXSYWkC2g==,US,,1503245050 138372394,138375384,2017-08-20 16:05:16,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1503245116 138372394,138375547,2017-08-20 16:06:44,,,Anonymous,hoppe democracy.jpg,IjRVVkmwB6DUR+Xf//TTgA==,,,1503245204 138372394,138375681,2017-08-20 16:08:01,">>138373095 >Kill yourself for using that disgusting nigger song the morrakiu one is better",,Anonymous,,,,,1503245281 138372394,138376358,2017-08-20 16:13:58,">>138372394 Anarcho-capitalism is good because it actually is able to go into detail about how it works without having to say ""We'll just murder the people who do this regular human activity"" every time. How would walking around in an An-cap society actually be, and would I be allowed to create a law stating that 0-17 year olds can't drive around town because it's dangerous in the an-cap world? What would it depend on?",,Anonymous,IMG_0636.jpg,GR/+N6jaS19SBPILvIjBSA==,IS,,1503245638 138372394,138376594,2017-08-20 16:15:56,">>138376358 before you ask retarded questions, think to yourself: ""what would an ancap answer to this?""",,Anonymous,1503068836714.png,HRoNF/YavNeFnX4g73BZpA==,,,1503245756 138372394,138376963,2017-08-20 16:18:49,">>138376594 That's why it is helpful to put the usual description into the OP",,Anonymous,,,,,1503245929 138372394,138377213,2017-08-20 16:20:49,">>138376963 Whoever made this thread is retarded. there's a pastebin with the OP /lrg/'s supposed to have, but he'd rather have a link to Black And Yellow, I guess.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503246049 138372394,138377421,2017-08-20 16:22:34,">>138377213 >there's a pastebin with the OP /lrg/'s supposed to have I know even I have that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503246154 138372394,138377442,2017-08-20 16:22:41,">>138376594 Ayo hol up Lemme get dis straight So you be sayin Dat uhmm Dat us blah ppl could hav Dat us blah ppl Could have liek Our own mufukn like uhh Private afreekah? Breh we onto somethin rn i think",,Anonymous,IMG_0542.jpg,BS9LcPxQfWsJPmDpVjI9Fg==,IS,,1503246161 138372394,138377549,2017-08-20 16:23:26,">>138377442 How is Iceland defending itself?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503246206 138372394,138378367,2017-08-20 16:30:05,">>138377549 From the blacks? Pretty well, honestly. The only time i've ever seen a muslim was when I went to Denmark, never seen one here. I've seen blacks, of course, but they've all been harmless. It's the Poles and Mongols(If Finns count as mongols, then i'll make it clear that the white cute Finns are okay) that are the real problems. Poles tend to be violent and the Mongols all act autistic",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1503246605 138372394,138378758,2017-08-20 16:33:33,">>138378367 no from actual invasion by a foreign army. Even google or zuckerberg could wipe out your defenses if they would care enough.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503246813 138372394,138379894,2017-08-20 16:43:10,">>138374273 >like ancaps propose citation needed",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1503247390 138372394,138380111,2017-08-20 16:45:14,/lrg/ dead?,,Anonymous,hoppe ..jpg,tgbVnhziycImt8BNTrjHnA==,,,1503247514 138402142,138402142,2017-08-20 20:15:50,"If you need the state to enforce non-degeneracy, you are already in a state of degeneracy. This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based_paleos.png,1qI3KiiZdks9QKW54i6cAg==,GB,,1503260150 138402142,138402244,2017-08-20 20:16:43,">>138402142 DEFEND THIS",,Anonymous,legalize recreational nukes.jpg,/d2N3tRJBg6TYQo7T20aXA==,US,,1503260203 138402142,138402615,2017-08-20 20:20:29,>>138402244,,Anonymous,ayn_rand_nukes.png,NnIMUXTbe/BCZqLSq9e0aQ==,GB,,1503260429 138402142,138402838,2017-08-20 20:22:40,">>138402142 END ROAD SOCIALISM",,Anonymous,Privatization of Roads.jpg,my8b1F+xZg//ptMKH1Sn8w==,US,,1503260560 138402142,138403221,2017-08-20 20:26:34,">>138402615 OK, but I want to blow one up for fun tho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503260794 138402142,138403306,2017-08-20 20:27:27,">>138402244 On the free market everyone will have the optimal amount of nukes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503260847 138402142,138404387,2017-08-20 20:37:57,"Converted 3 people yesterday. 2 to a night watchman state & 1 to Anarchism. They're already telling their mates for some reason, how are you guys going spreading the ideas of freedom & liberty?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503261477 138529898,138529898,2017-08-21 19:46:58,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >What is Physical Removal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg After 9000 hours in Paint, the new song is here. Based Hoppeans spread the good word. Physically remove the communist faggots who threaten our white bourgeois libertarian social order! https://vid.me/mQN6 https://vid.me/mQN6 https://vid.me/mQN6 pls upload it like you always do, with the meme lettering and all. Hoppe you enjoy",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Proof the free market is superior: Singapore,Anonymous,singaporephysicalmap.png,rUX92qmaKiMSjD1DYTO84Q==,GB,,1503344818 138529898,138530154,2017-08-21 19:49:51,first for ROC invading PRC,,Anonymous,,,TR,,1503344991 138529898,138530221,2017-08-21 19:50:36,How's the seasteading going,,Anonymous,,,AR,,1503345036 139413628,139413628,2017-08-28 20:46:20,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 REQUIRED READING: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >FURTHER READING: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads THREAD THEME: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,hip hop fuck op.jpg,v1Qh/ZEDuIngc7xRt2VBuA==,,,1503953180 139413628,139414026,2017-08-28 20:50:02,">>139413628 Would be better without ""how 'bout you."" Also, no period at the end.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503953402 139413628,139414209,2017-08-28 20:51:43,Could we just buy waifus?,,Anonymous,1503896843271.png,ZpUXs0Kh2UWcn77z/C4UQQ==,AU,,1503953503 139413628,139414240,2017-08-28 20:52:01,>>139413628,,Anonymous,qqf.jpg,Y17/Ny5955ZM0iNhf4ytTg==,,,1503953521 139413628,139414680,2017-08-28 20:56:37,>>139413628,,Anonymous,20841742_289404584798760_1577036842794472592_n.jpg,MVXV4zdG+GqYxzqcS0g/Bw==,,,1503953797 139413628,139414713,2017-08-28 20:56:54,fuck commies and nazis,,Anonymous,,,,,1503953814 139413628,139415187,2017-08-28 21:01:32,,,Anonymous,takticool_rekreationul_nucc.jpg,VrDtDweTHIuvbZShgPTSuQ==,,,1503954092 139413628,139415300,2017-08-28 21:02:44,"Made some OC last night, plz rate",,Anonymous,p r i v a t e.jpg,qchcpuW3GEsV+ULm+Tx2cQ==,,,1503954164 139413628,139415712,2017-08-28 21:06:52,">>139415300 i mean, it's cute and all, but if someone can't figure this out on their own, it's clear they're beyond hope.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503954412 139413628,139415944,2017-08-28 21:09:00,">>139413628 this image would be 100% better if it was just >hippity hoppity >get the fuck off my property but of course libertarians are retards",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1503954540 139413628,139415973,2017-08-28 21:09:16,why are egoists so retarded,,Anonymous,1484989182243.png,HRoNF/YavNeFnX4g73BZpA==,,,1503954556 139413628,139416808,2017-08-28 21:17:08,">>139414209 Hnnnnnnnnnhhghg",,Anonymous,1503503688542.gif,M6UnqaAsNdz/F9CYoqm7NA==,CA,,1503955028 139413628,139417141,2017-08-28 21:20:16,">>139413628 Where my Hoppean niggas?",,Anonymous,hqdefault (1).jpg,oDYZJa0jd6dsdF0sVZWj1Q==,BR,,1503955216 139413628,139418397,2017-08-28 21:32:50,">>139417141 Fuck democracy, am I right",,Anonymous,7 y:o democrats.jpg,3bfmBHWB8HuQpFdht5Pazg==,,,1503955970 139413628,139418638,2017-08-28 21:35:22,This thread has been really cancerous so far.,,Anonymous,tree_of_liberty.png,nDQnAEKfvcs23XB8Dk8iOQ==,GB,,1503956122 139413628,139418928,2017-08-28 21:38:27,">>139413628 can we get some /lrg/ meme dumping going on. My brother is a fucking commie",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503956307 139413628,139419200,2017-08-28 21:40:57,">>139418928 bump",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503956457 139413628,139419392,2017-08-28 21:42:55,">>139413628 >will shoot a man for climbing his fence, walls are racist",,Anonymous,1501661702423.jpg,28Z3tjiV2kZJ0FP8QzLssQ==,,,1503956575 139413628,139419870,2017-08-28 21:47:23,"I encounter this problem the other day while on a Molymeme video and I recognise that freedom is the ultimate value that needs to uphold first. How will the criminal justice system work with the processing of criminals? Will there be the existence of courts if any? Can anyone explain the privatized police force?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503956843 139413628,139420356,2017-08-28 21:51:56,>>139413628,,Anonymous,1503588117218.jpg,IvieqLEYUqvVMuXzzYGVMQ==,AR,,1503957116 139413628,139420598,2017-08-28 21:53:57,">>139418397 ayyyyyyyyyyyyy",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1503957237 139413628,139420604,2017-08-28 21:53:59,">>139413628 Filthy National !Socialist! checking in.",,Anonymous,eagle_and_snake_by_tonywave33-d6i2awd.jpg,xrIB/TO0nSMZ0U12U4LETw==,,,1503957239 139413628,139420706,2017-08-28 21:55:03,">>139420356 STAY BEHIND,SICKENING LEFTIST",,Anonymous,photo.jpg,NB+WZNQHPlQ814TxImvd0A==,BR,,1503957303 139413628,139420774,2017-08-28 21:55:41,">>139420706 meant to >>139420604",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1503957341 139413628,139421154,2017-08-28 21:59:19,">>139420356 Fucking kek",,Anonymous,1502678239467.png,YB9DwKIXP5AHnoyBxbpQtg==,US,,1503957559 139413628,139421559,2017-08-28 22:03:11,">>139413628 Do AnCaps have a plan on how to get to their utopia? All I ever hear is arguments of how things would work in such a society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503957791 139413628,139421836,2017-08-28 22:05:59,">>139420356 F-fuck you, anarcho-capitalism w-works!",,Anonymous,,,,,1503957959 139413628,139421927,2017-08-28 22:06:54,">>139421559 The only way is a VERY violent covenant. The state has so much violence inherent in its capacity to enslave the peasants, we'd have to pool together in a way that includes every member willing to shoot, nuke and torture over the slightest transgression of the NAP. This in order to threaten aggressors into backing off. Once a social order has been established, the violence can cool off a bit and DRO's could form to create more economical and ethical solutions to aggressors. Still though... A state actor aggressing on the covenant members is to be responded with extreme violence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503958014 139413628,139422168,2017-08-28 22:09:19,"Can a limited government constitutionalist who secretly desires an open, unregulated McNuclear arms market post in your thread?",,Anonymous,1502667545840.png,y+MA8bfvE383t0W6Bjvy8Q==,,,1503958159 139413628,139422502,2017-08-28 22:12:59,">>139421927 sometimes I think you are right. It pisses me off that my kids were born into enslavement. Unfortunately people only respect the threat of force. It is the only way we can be left alone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503958379 139413628,139422872,2017-08-28 22:16:37,">>139421927 Wouldn't striving for an ever shrinking government be a better way of eventually possibly achieving AnCap society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503958597 139413628,139422931,2017-08-28 22:17:07,">>139422502 >born into enslavement i actually believe the libertarian philosophy, but have to keep it under wraps because of ignorant cunts like you.",,Anonymous,what.png,l5xtGRGpQn/vNKdqsm2HUg==,,,1503958627 139413628,139423116,2017-08-28 22:19:02,"Do people expect private military firms to really have the discipline and cohesiveness to repel an invasion from an enemy force? Will these private military firms only bother protecting private property of those who paid them before this invasion? If so, how would that be possible if the enemy force uses a carpet bombing-like strategy? If not, what incentive would I have to pay the private military firms to begin with?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503958742 139413628,139423247,2017-08-28 22:20:25,">>139413628 Youre all just a bunch of monarchists that want to hit the reset button",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1503958825 139413628,139423290,2017-08-28 22:20:50,Why are there so many statists floating around the board nowadays? Are people looking to socialism/national socialism because they are dissatisfied with republican governments?,,Anonymous,,,,,1503958850 139413628,139423393,2017-08-28 22:21:51,">>139423290 because you havent been here long enough to know what this is actually about",,Anonymous,weenies.png,nLVfUtdE2uIk7zKzWKG0fg==,US,,1503958911 139413628,139423596,2017-08-28 22:23:52,">>139422872 LOLbertarian delusion. You don't understand what the state inherently is. You don't understand what self-defense truly means and you don't understand the political folly of democracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503959032 139413628,139423649,2017-08-28 22:24:29,">>139413628 >PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST Here you go: USA & whole planet besides North Korea and China for 90 years. Now can you finally start producing positive results or will you continue to suck on Zion Jesus penis and create debt?",,Anonymous,FACE OF ETERNAL RETARDATION IN CHRISTIAN BRAINS.png,3cEjdEUNxihHn9GEDLkU7Q==,SI,,1503959069 139413628,139423754,2017-08-28 22:25:30,">>139423290 Dumb centrist normies try to get political because of the stronger right-left diivide as of late.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503959130 139413628,139423804,2017-08-28 22:26:01,">>139414209 Is that Lauren Southern?",,Anonymous,,,,,1503959161 139413628,139423840,2017-08-28 22:26:20,">>139423116 >Do people expect private military firms to really have the discipline and cohesiveness to repel an invasion from an enemy force? Potentially, mercenaries in medieval Italy were a match for any conventional armies of the time. However more to the point war between major western countries is looking increasingly obsolete as illustrated by the fact that no major western nations have engaged in open warfare since 1945. Beyond that the best defence is convincing the invader that an invasion would cost more than it could ever be worth, and the best way to do that is to have such an armed society that an invasion would be like Vietnam and Afghanistan on steroids. If every adult male owned a stinger, a LAW, and an FAL that would still be well over 50 million armed men. Let these armed men form into their own independent militias.",,Anonymous,,,,,1503959180 139413628,139423901,2017-08-28 22:27:01,">>139423804 The sexiest ;)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1503959221 139413628,139423998,2017-08-28 22:28:10,">>139414209 hell yeah",,Anonymous,1481260108806.png,PAWgEwB8zY2J9oYgPbaWPA==,,,1503959290 139413628,139424310,2017-08-28 22:31:31,">>139423596 You don't seem to understand how to bring about your goals in in a realistic way. It sounds like you do not have a plan that doesn't violate your own principles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503959491 139413628,139424495,2017-08-28 22:33:21,"Curious as to what /pol/ things about the fact that Hitler, Bernie Sanders and Trump have all been classified as Populists. What are some Populist ideas that could pull left leaning normies towards a more right leaning point of view? I have a few ideas of my own but I would enjoy having some diverse ideas on this subject. Seems to me like Populism is a thread that could create a more unified political system in the future and its already happening in parts of Europe. Im a right winger of course but I think a lot of leftist populists share similar points of view and could easily be swayed towards the right. With the left becoming more radicalized it makes sense to push as many normies away from that as quickly as possible. Your thoughts?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503959601 139413628,139424564,2017-08-28 22:34:04,">>139414209 damn, she looks so much better with black hair.",,Anonymous,tumblr_static_6gpnn3drrhc08oo8g08844gs4.png,6eYJX6UhlaYL4QbNJS1p4g==,US,,1503959644 139413628,139425365,2017-08-28 22:42:10,>>139423804,,Anonymous,7252017224118.png,MRhLSgMjg6WEs+G64XhmYg==,US,,1503960130 139413628,139425768,2017-08-28 22:46:07,I've noticed a sort of cultural problem in the libertarian right. We glorify strength and agression while advocatiny a weak to non-existent state and a society based on the NAP. So now there's a bunch of ancaps who think Nazis are cool...,,Anonymous,,,US,,1503960367 139413628,139426280,2017-08-28 22:51:17,">>139425768 >So now there's a bunch of ancaps who think Nazis are cool... confused posers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503960677 139413628,139426481,2017-08-28 22:53:09,">>139424495 It can probably pull them to a more right leaning POV (after all there has been documented overlap between bernie and trump supporters) , but it doesn't look like this current form of populism will bring them to right libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503960789 139413628,139426672,2017-08-28 22:54:58,">>139424495 Both left and right populists know that there is a small group of people controlling everything. Make it more a race thing than a class thing. Also, don't forget that communism and socialism kill jobs, while capitalism let's them prosper.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503960898 139413628,139427103,2017-08-28 22:59:29,>>139419392,,Anonymous,lrg_war.png,tRMUExZWMg6+EusS9aE7fA==,US,,1503961169 139413628,139427432,2017-08-28 23:02:44,">>139414680 How did you get a picture of me!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1503961364 139413628,139427450,2017-08-28 23:02:56,,,Anonymous,1478504988652.jpg,tb8iqHfjARAvdPI8WeMfUw==,US,,1503961376 139658175,139658175,2017-08-30 18:31:16,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - DR. HOPPE'S AUSTRO HEARTS CLUB BAND,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,,,1504117876 139658175,139658345,2017-08-30 18:32:58,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1504117978 139658175,139658401,2017-08-30 18:33:35,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1504118015 139658175,139658411,2017-08-30 18:33:47,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1504118027 139658175,139658421,2017-08-30 18:33:56,,,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1504118036 139658175,139658748,2017-08-30 18:37:33,,,Anonymous,RR (1).png,nDQnAEKfvcs23XB8Dk8iOQ==,,,1504118253 139658175,139658765,2017-08-30 18:37:43,,,Anonymous,RR (10).png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,,,1504118263 139658175,139659062,2017-08-30 18:40:57,,,Anonymous,RR (8).png,T8Fu9b39NuW1a2bnJPzpKw==,,,1504118457 139658175,139659143,2017-08-30 18:41:51,">Donald Trump will Complete the System of German Idealism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOk6HB609po",,Anonymous,RR (7).png,yAtnB0j0FZy7rJrhTpldMw==,,,1504118511 139658175,139660874,2017-08-30 18:59:42,Bump,,Anonymous,1503885501303.png,GRMPOXQAK9qCCwwvP90W8w==,,,1504119582 139658175,139661004,2017-08-30 19:00:48,,,Anonymous,tu_ne_cede_malis.png,cMoQBZ3SMr1lFZRED71Gxw==,GB,,1504119648 139658175,139661028,2017-08-30 19:01:06,">>139660874 Thanks pal",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,,,1504119666 139658175,139662284,2017-08-30 19:12:36,"Are you cunts ready to rally & protest in yellow shirts to show the world that when left & right wing authoritarians fight there's always a reasonable third option - freedom? I for one will be organizing sausage sizzles with Libertarians smack bang in the middle of protests and fights here in Aus, freedom flags will abound and the news will have no choice but give us free publicity. Also have you cunts seen what the Brazilians have accomplished? We have to imitate their enthusiasm & do away with this purity infighting.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504120356 139658175,139662728,2017-08-30 19:17:01,"If you had the opportunity to hand out books & pamphlet quotes to normies, what would you give them that you think would be persuasive but not boring? I think I'd go for The Law by Bastiat, a comic version of The Road to Serfdom, maybe Atlas Shrugged (since it had a huge impact on normies back in the day) & some quotes by Hayek, Mises, Bastiat, Rand & of course heaps of Ron Paul material. I'm thinking of creating a Red Pill box filled with this material + some A-grade memes to distrubute to the public maybe even a USB stick with the best youtube videos around.",,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1504120621 139658175,139662770,2017-08-30 19:17:24,"I'd rally with you dudes, I'd be down with sausage sizzles or whatever. But I'm still gonna shit talk cuckbertarians and cosmopolitan freaks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504120644 139658175,139662993,2017-08-30 19:19:45,">>139662728 c'mon man, everyone should read Anatomy of the State first. It's a quick and easy read for even the most basic bitches.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504120785 139658175,139663169,2017-08-30 19:21:16,">>139662728 fuck man, you could probably print tons of copies of Anatomy of the State for pretty cheap, Its only 60 pages.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504120876 139658175,139663336,2017-08-30 19:22:47,">>139662728 >>139662770 >>139662993 >>139663169 I agree, anatomy of the state is *such* a useful tool - it absolutely demolishes common ideology and quickly reveals the true nature of the state, which is of course undefendable.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504120967 139658175,139663694,2017-08-30 19:26:43,">>139663169 60 pages? I don't remember it being that short, thanks I'll chuck it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504121203 139658175,139663963,2017-08-30 19:29:21,"1/3 Okay, I think this may be relevant as a side note. /leftypol/ recently launched a campaign about so-called ""AdNauseam"" and posts here extensively. While that mere fact is already a warning sign, there's a bit more to it, and the seemingly good idea is NOT what it seems. So I think it won't hurt to take a little red pill in case if you come across it another time. I'm giving a quick rundown next.",,Anonymous,quick-rundown.jpg,/AKH6bLvjY5LTnonUzmjUQ==,,,1504121361 139658175,139664095,2017-08-30 19:30:49,"2/3 Don't fall for the AdNauseam meme. It's a dud, and it's a Trojan horse. If you already used it, you wasted your time: Google doesn't lose a cent. Yes, Google refunds money. But none of that money comes from Google's own pocket. It's the money paid by advertisers in advance: part of it is simply returned for fake traffic, most of which is ditched early on and comes from competitors attacking each other. Now, who takes the hit? Small site owners whose ads you're targeting. Google loves punishing them for ""bad traffic"", when some asshole simply click-spammed them. On the other hand, Google turns a blind eye on big kike sites like major news outlets. Don't underestimate the ad industry kikes. They'll just come up with more sophisticated, sly and Jewish kinds of ads that will fuck up your internet space even more. Google won't suffer, big kike sites won't suffer, but small NEET-owned sites will. Don't be an ass, let the little guy earn his cent. All ads are geared towards normies anyway, not you. AdNauseam claims that its goal is to protect you from surveillance. That's a totally false premise and a lie. There's nothing easier than to stop getting tracked: all tracking is done through cookies and associated accounts. Just don't stay logged in to your Google account and use Private/Incognito mode. Or use cookie cleaners. As simple as that, you're not tracked anymore. The real goal of AdNauseam is to push its agenda. And it pretty much exposes you too. The creators of AdNauseam are literally SJW Marxist Jewish homos and trannies, this is not an exaggeration. You're basically taking part in kike wars and serving as a voluntary promoter of a yet unannounced product. It's their 4D chess. Now, what happens when AdNauseam clicks on ads for you? Your IP address, the whole information about your location is passed down there. You're not only not saved from surveillance, you're being surveilled on repeat. Do your math. Here's the ""woman"" behind AdNauseam, Helen Nissenbaum",,Anonymous,Cropped_Headshot_March 29.jpg,fGOwNvZzcM/2AMewFNMETw==,,,1504121449 139658175,139664207,2017-08-30 19:32:12,"3/3 The Marxist Jews are the masters of subversion. They know best how to infiltrate the discourse and twist it for their own good. One of their common techniques is called ""false equivalence"". The trick is to substitute a minor, mundane issue for a major one and eventually take the attention away from really important things. So called ""ad surveillance"" is one of the examples. Yeah, it's kinda nasty, but no more than dog poo in the street. It's basically cookie tracking which can be disabled with one click. Only tech-illiterate normies who buy shit online are affected by it. Can I easily disable government surveillance? The effects of mass migration, affirmative action, anti-hate speech regulations? The Marxist Jews don't want people to talk about it, they want everybody to focus on their ad poos. This is not even helping the cause. Instead of promoting alternatives to Google services and Youtube, damaging Google's reputation in the eyes of normies, they make people vent out in a safe outlet, which may actually benefit Google in the first place. Big advertisers have been waging click wars on each other for YEARS. Reports of mass click fraud date back to 2015, 2013, 2011.. And they use much more sophisticated methods than just blatantly sending 100 clicks an hour from your home IP. Over 50% of web traffic is bot traffic at this point. Do you think Google's quantitative analysts are dumb? That they don't have early filters in place? If anything, it's Google's competitors that will suffer from click fraud first. So, what's the REAL goal of these Jews? - To give Google an edge over competitors because the latter can't handle click fraud effectively and lack good quants - To sell data to Google for their new adblocker - To suppress smaller scapegoat websites in favor of (((big))) ones - To push the discourse sideways, in a safe direction - To expose the IP addresses of people with questionable political views We can only guess.",,Anonymous,adnaseaum.png,dms9DAE7ap5KYdViVJDpvw==,,,1504121532 139658175,139664601,2017-08-30 19:36:18,What are some good books on libertarian ideology ?,,Anonymous,,,,,1504121778 139658175,139665477,2017-08-30 19:45:45,">>139664601 The Libertarian Reader - Classic and contemporary writings from Lao Tzu to Milton Friedman by David Boaz, kind of outlines 3/4 of the main bulk of literature so it's a pretty good start actually. I would try and pick that up so you have a reading list and go wherever your curiosity takes you but small books are good; The Law & Anatomy of the State anything that you can dabble in without having to commit to 400 pages of deep thought. Hoppe has some good small books too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504122345 139658175,139665545,2017-08-30 19:46:28,">>139664601 Also there's PDFs available for free for most of the classics so you don't have to pirate or buy them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504122388 139658175,139665777,2017-08-30 19:49:08,">>139662728 >I'm thinking of creating a Red Pill box filled with this material + some A-grade memes to distrubute to the public maybe even a USB stick with the best youtube videos around. Great idea, anon. I wish you all the best.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504122548 139658175,139665784,2017-08-30 19:49:10,"I have a question for you guys! I am really interested in libertarianism/ancap ideology but i just cannot figure out how the NAP and basic property rights can solve all political problems. I mean, there are plenty of political issues where the NAP cannot be applied with viable consequences. If everything can be privatized, so can be nature, so can be national park, so can be any places with historical values etc... Don't you think there still need public places where people can go and move freely. Traditionnal values are one of the core belief of /lrg/ but so is the preservation of Nature/History. How do you think this can be achieved through private property rights ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504122550 139658175,139665877,2017-08-30 19:50:03,">Alt-Right vs. Socialist Left: What It Means for Liberty | Jeff Deist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxkV-A5dBZc",,Anonymous,,,,,1504122603 139658175,139665908,2017-08-30 19:50:21,">>139658401 Can you resize this? No reason for it to be THAT big",,Anonymous,,,,,1504122621 139658175,139666096,2017-08-30 19:52:20,">>139665777 Cheers, I'm in two minds whether to hand them out at rallies or try to make it go viral by spending a night with a bunch of people and dumping them around in public for people to find.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504122740 139658175,139666698,2017-08-30 19:59:05,">>139665784 Pic related, everything stems from Life, Liberty & Property. The ability to apply our faculties to the world around us for survival & to lead a fulfilling life. To go against those 3 you get the big bads; theft, assault, rape, murder & slavery. It's a framework from which you can have your subjective values within them and still live peacefully with strangers. You'll still have ""public land"" ie like shopping centers etc, so if a shop builds a road to that shop they'd handle the street and what not to allow people to get there same with a lot of businesses & mining towns whatever it may be. Many other alternatives & a lot of nuance but you probably get the point. Try and find the talk with Jeffrey Tucker he mentions these train stations & shops that have been fully privatized where they had to even have private police and it worked out incredibly well. There's private towns all over the world though, exciting times.",,Anonymous,NAP-PropertyRights -Self-ownership-Freedom- Illustrated.jpg,f8AeH21oDwxwjDK9a+X2Sg==,,,1504123145 139658175,139667681,2017-08-30 20:09:17,"Classical liberal/libertarian race realist here. Have read almost every suggestion seen in these posts. Would like to add that going all the way to anarchy and complete private property is probably not realistic or advisable at this stage. For a high IQ population that is ethnically homogeneous in the future, perhaps, but for now we should stick to a constitutional construction, something that explicitly defines a racial State with controlled borders. Not a problem having national parks, public fire and police services and roadworks, etc, when the nation is ethnically homogeneous and has a relatively high mean average IQ. Perhaps the greatest strength of mobilizing under the liberty banner under a constitutional system is that it is familiar and has been successful in the past. We just need to correct the false notions of multiculturalism and open borders while asserting all the traditional liberties we have lost- including freedom of speech and freedom of association. Also, the classical liberals who founded America were very clear on violence. Within a system of liberty voluntaryism is foundational. No violence. Once tyranny sets in violence and revolution are not just moral but prescribed. We must return to a proper order of things- a racial nation with controlled borders and FREEDOM.",,Anonymous,American Revolution.jpg,uE+7MxWu/St8tukTLnETwQ==,US,,1504123757 139658175,139669517,2017-08-30 20:29:01,">>139662728 please do this the more people that realise that the government is completely unnecessary, the better.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504124941 139658175,139669524,2017-08-30 20:29:05,">>139667681 > we should stick to a constitutional construction, something that explicitly defines a racial State with controlled borders. > Perhaps the greatest strength of mobilizing under the liberty banner under a constitutional system is that it is familiar and has been successful in the past. How about you fuck off and use your own banners, Kekistani flags, Nazi flags, the American flag whatever. Alt-right & Libertarians can fight Marxists together you aren't going to co-opt our movement with your bullshit. Unfortunately there is no we and Fascists aren't ""one of us"". Freedom or slavery not a combination of both friend.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504124945 139658175,139669673,2017-08-30 20:30:44,">>139665477 Thank you I'll start there >>139665545 I pirate movies and tv because fuck supporting (((them))) but I like to buy my literature and expand my book shelf",,Anonymous,,,,,1504125044 139658175,139670023,2017-08-30 20:34:41,">>139669517 Have you got any ideas of essentials you'd include? When the next Australian federal election comes around look out for my boxes. Anyone got a good image to put on top? Something eye catching.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504125281 139658175,139670590,2017-08-30 20:40:34,"How Brazil's Libertarian Movement helped bring down a president: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaRyvgbHCV4 What I find fascinating about Brazil's ongoing revolution is just their enthusiasm and energy, their willingness to welcome anyone and everyone without extreme infighting for purity. These guys even hunt on social media and when they see comments that are Libertarian leaning they'll reach out to the person to tell them they're not alone and there's a movement for what they believe, helping guide people one by one to Libertarian ideas. The cultural aspect is brilliant too, like how in South Korea there's a huge culture of street food, which is illegal but it's so ingrained the police don't enforce it. We need that in the west.",,Anonymous,Minus-Marx-Plus-Mises-Brazil-Libertarian-Revolution.jpg,4eU/8GOCSmUU7TeCwFc3bQ==,AU,,1504125634 139658175,139671610,2017-08-30 20:50:50,">>139667681 I'm down with the racial state, national unity is good for us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504126250 139658175,139671953,2017-08-30 20:54:14,">>139669524 Racial realism isn't ""their bullshit"" I think you ought to research our founding fathers opinions on race, they weren't ""racist kooks"" they understood that ethnic egalitarianism is a farce.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504126454 139658175,139673338,2017-08-30 21:07:44,">>139671953 I may even subjectively agree one day about trends & racial problems, but collectivism isn't Libertarianism there is no ""we"" there.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504127264 139658175,139673569,2017-08-30 21:09:57,">>139667681 Making compromises and losing sight of the goal is how a movement dies. I'm very much on rothbard's side on this - libertarians should be abolitionists, and well we of course (if the opportunity arises) wouldn't reject a classical liberal minarchy like you seem to suggest, the ultimate goal should be abolition of the state. Being a right-opportunist, in marxist terms, isn't helpful. https://mises.org/library/do-you-hate-state",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504127397 139658175,139674144,2017-08-30 21:15:31,">>139673338 wew lad, I have had this debate so much. voluntarily choosing to associate with a homogeneous racial community is in no way a form of agression. I don't care about being atomized and rugged individualism. I want choice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504127731 139658175,139674410,2017-08-30 21:17:59,">>139673338 May I fucking also say it loud and clear; RACE REALISM DOESN'T BELONG TO FASCISM OR NATIONAL SOCIALISM.",,Anonymous,Gg6Jn_kEfmCWpIkWw307xX3Tr8QMjJy21IKI7FRMyX0.jpg,hiRP4lPTTkAf2UvjY0VF9Q==,,,1504127879 139658175,139674920,2017-08-30 21:23:11,">>139674144 >I should be able to CHOOSE to abandon my responsibilities to my race and society Your ""freedom"" is a bad lie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504128191 139658175,139675051,2017-08-30 21:24:29,">>139674144 For sure, freedom protects subjective preferences that's my point but I won't agree with a collectivist total state to enforce my subjective preferences. He's talking about a government that creates & maintains racial homgeny, heavily controlls borders etc as a message we should be rallying around. They can fuck off with their Nazi flags and preech that shit. Subjective preference vs objective reality of the state & individualism vs collectivism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504128269 139658175,139675233,2017-08-30 21:26:11,">>139675051 Dear /pol/lacks, We reviewed your application for retirement benefits on the behalf of government of Canada. Congrats! Our TrueTho Foundation is extremely pleased to announce that you are a winner of 2017 exclusive award, $7 million!!!!! There is only one thing that you need to do to claim the PRIZE!! All you need is to SIGN UP for TrueTho Premium Membership closed for VIPs only!!! Note that VIPs are carefully handpicked by our customer service team from a very rigorous selection process!!! Hurry NOW! Sign Up for a FREE account and proceed to get premium membership!!!! And of course, WIN 7 MILLION CAD , a prize of LIFETIME, Oh, Can you just imagine taking a big long vacation at GUAM??? And watch it burn down to ASHES thanks to KIM, our biggest shareholder?? 7 million!!! Hooray!!! *offer ends @ 7pm, September 23rd 2017.",,TrueTho Foundation,,,,,1504128371 139658175,139675497,2017-08-30 21:28:54,">>139662728 Friedman is the number one way to enlighten normies. Start with Friedman and Hayek to build a base, then move on to Bastiat, Mises and finally Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504128534 139658175,139675664,2017-08-30 21:30:36,">>139675497 I think some Friedman videos would be good, not sure what his most accessible books are they're like some of the first I read I can't really remember the short explosives ones if he had any. He's got some great quotes though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504128636 139658175,139675878,2017-08-30 21:32:42,">>139675497 >>139675664 >Friedman >Friedman was born in Brooklyn, New York on July 31, 1912. His parents, Sára Ethel (née Landau) and Jenő Saul Friedman,[25] were Jewish immigrants from Beregszász in Carpathian Ruthenia, Kingdom of Hungary (now Berehove in Ukraine). >Mises >Ludwig von Mises was born to Jewish parents in the city of Lemberg, in Galicia, Austria-Hungary (now Lviv, Ukraine). >Rothbard >Murray Rothbard's parents were David and Rae Rothbard, Jewish immigrants to the U.S. from Poland and Russia, respectively.",,Anonymous,1503388532080.jpg,2SNvKdE3ovgnp5iIxJ9cMw==,US,,1504128762 139658175,139676107,2017-08-30 21:35:23,">>139675878 Rothbard is an honorary white desu Mises and Friedman can also be pretty jewish but their economics are good.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504128923 139658175,139676364,2017-08-30 21:38:25,">>139675878 Hayek & Bastiat aren't jews, what's your point?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504129105 139658175,139676478,2017-08-30 21:39:31,"A member of the human race who is completely incapable of understanding the higher productivity of labor performed under a division of labor based on private property is not properly speaking a person… but falls instead into the same moral category as an animal – of either the harmless sort (to be domesticated and employed as a producer or consumer good, or to be enjoyed as a “free good”) or the wild and dangerous one (to be fought as a pest). On the other hand, there are members of the human species who are capable of understanding the [value of the division of labor] but...who knowingly act wrongly… [B]esides having to be tamed or even physically defeated [they] must also be punished… to make them understand the nature of their wrongdoings and hopefully teach them a lesson for the future.",,Anonymous,1503092086126.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,,,1504129171 139658175,139676497,2017-08-30 21:39:50,">>139676107 Economics without sociopolitics is just a discussion about how best to destroy/sell our societies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504129190 139658175,139676589,2017-08-30 21:40:41,">>139675878 >JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS That doesn't work here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504129241 139658175,139676666,2017-08-30 21:41:31,"Families, authority, communities, and social ranks are the empirical-sociological concretization of the abstract philosophical-praxeological categories and concepts of property, production, exchange, and contract. Property and property relations do not exist apart from families and kinship relations. Private property capitalism and egalitarian multiculturalism are as unlikely a combination as socialism and cultural conservatism. And in trying to combine what cannot be combined, much of the modern libertarian movement actually contributed to the further erosion of private property rights (just as much of contemporary conservatism contributed to the erosion of families and traditional morals). What the countercultural libertarians failed to recognize, and what true libertarians cannot emphasize enough, is that the restoration of private property rights and laissez-faire economics implies a sharp and drastic increase in social “discrimination” and will swiftly eliminate most if not all of the multicultural-egalitarian life style experiments so close to the heart of left libertarians. In other words, libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives. Egalitarianism, in every form and shape, is incompatible with the idea of private property. Private property implies exclusivity, inequality, and difference. And cultural relativism is incompatible with the fundamental----indeed foundational----fact of families and intergenerational kinship relations. Families and kinship relations imply cultural absolutism.",,Anonymous,1503272687681.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,,,1504129291 139658175,139676720,2017-08-30 21:42:04,">>139675878 i disagree/don't give a shit but thank you for using best girl",,Anonymous,,,,,1504129324 139658175,139676859,2017-08-30 21:43:41,">>139676589 Ofc not You're their most loyal customers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504129421 139658175,139676908,2017-08-30 21:44:14,">>139675878 >yfw Rothbard sympathized with holocaust revisionists Hell, he probably was one, I don't know.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504129454 139658175,139677087,2017-08-30 21:46:26,">>139676908 >mfw when Marx also said """"""antisemitic"""""" things Stop falling for it desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504129586 139658175,139677233,2017-08-30 21:48:00,">>139677087 Maybe instead of using ad hominems we should attack ideas, amirite?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504129680 139658175,139677328,2017-08-30 21:48:52,">>139676478 Does he imagine AnCaps would be the ones to punish anybody? Or will there be some """"""transitional government"""""" that'll handle it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504129732 139658175,139677428,2017-08-30 21:49:58,">>139677087 Marx was an anti-Semitic Jew, just like Balkunin, and just like the Bolsheviks. Jewish communists are ultimately self-destructive, but they bring everyone else down with them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504129798 139658175,139677577,2017-08-30 21:51:28,">>139677233 That's no fun. As soon as I attack the ideas, libs always turn into crickets.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504129888 139658175,139677853,2017-08-30 21:54:11,">>139658175 Libertarianism is too materialist. It's insufficient as an ideology because it prescribes virtue based on material utility. I get the appeal but it leaves far too much to be desired. The other problem is if you have fully embraced the material alone, and thus refuse this insufficiency, you then must confront the inherently metaphysical adherence to ""natural rights"" at the basis of such an otherwise substantive philosophy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504130051 139658175,139678009,2017-08-30 21:55:43,">>139677328 Yes, a transitional government would be needed. This government would necessarily be fascist. The fascist motto, is ""Me Ne Frego"", i don't care. the full lyric is ""me ne frego di morire per la santa libertà!"" i don't care if i die for sacred liberty. it's from a poem mussolini liked.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504130143 139658175,139678104,2017-08-30 21:56:40,">>139677428 >they bring everyone else down with them That's not self-destructive, that's furthering their interests. jewish capitalists and jewish communists are the same. Using two different methods to subjugate the goyim; open destruction and (((reconstruction))) of the society, and covert purchasing of the society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504130200 139658175,139678111,2017-08-30 21:56:42,"What are the most outreagous evidence & facts I can give people that will shock them about how the state really works? Even if its proven conspiracy stuff that might help. I've got some in mind for my country but in general & internationally would be good.",,Anonymous,Red Pill.jpg,E+x9tDXIM7gXsVxW1nNBfQ==,,,1504130202 139658175,139678471,2017-08-30 22:00:15,">>139677853 This is not true. Libertarian morality is not founded upon virtue ethics, we judge the morality of action through deontology or consequentialism. That it's immoral to confiscate wealth through an arbitrary power does not assign virtue to people who earn wealth, in fact your wealth is meaningless unless you can use it in ways that benefit other people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504130415 139658175,139678614,2017-08-30 22:01:45,">>139678104 >jewish capitalists and jewish communists are the same. I don't even have to explain why that's nonsense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504130505 139658175,139678664,2017-08-30 22:02:17,">>139678009 A transitional government, using authoritarian powers, will bring about the necessary changes in society that'll enable the government to surrender power and dissolve itself. Where have we heard this plan before? Mussolini didn't believe in individualist freedom. The fascist concept of liberty is different to libs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504130537 139658175,139678947,2017-08-30 22:05:18,">>139678614 You can't. Because it isn't. >>139678471 >your wealth is meaningless unless you can use it in ways that benefit other people It's a shame your worship of private property rights prevents you from enforcing that morality in any way whatsoever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504130718 139658175,139679028,2017-08-30 22:06:21,">>139678664 if you're not a communist, criminal, or degenerate, you have nothing to fear from a fascist regime. fascism is an absolute guarantee of the individual's right to his private property and thus his liberty. once all opponents to liberty are physically removed, a fascist regime has no authoritative basis and will deflate into a libertarian monarchy, which, as hoppe argues, is objectively better than democracy",,Anonymous,,,,,1504130781 139658175,139679061,2017-08-30 22:06:42,">>139674920 Im arguing more for my right to associate in an all white, conservative, capitalist community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504130802 139658175,139679704,2017-08-30 22:13:36,"There is one thing stopping me from going full libertarian, how do you protect the environment from getting fucked over. There's bound to be people who can still become powerful enough to basically destroy national parks while not being intelligent enough to realize why those places are worth protecting.",,Anonymous,1502675653065.jpg,uLPCQOHqkYFwwKAOUkn3lQ==,US,,1504131216 139658175,139679750,2017-08-30 22:14:03,">>139679061 By adding ""capitalist"", you're arguing for the right to sell society off to foreign interests who will disallow the existence of that community, which is exactly the reason you're having to argue for it in the first place; normally it would be undisputed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504131243 139658175,139679871,2017-08-30 22:15:16,Why would a working class person be a libertarian?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504131316 139658175,139680304,2017-08-30 22:19:39,">>139679028 >fascism is an absolute guarantee of the individual's right to his private property Personal property. ""He"" doesn't have liberty, he is free by virtue of his nation having liberty. >once all opponents to liberty are physically removed, a fascist regime has no authoritative basis That is laughably delusional. If the fascist regime is all that could root out the enemy, it's all that could prevent it from infiltrating again. ""Libertarian monarchy"" is Hoppe struggling to rationalize how his abstract, idealistic principles are inconsequential next to the question of the concrete, practical organization of society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504131579 139658175,139680760,2017-08-30 22:24:57,">>139680304 >Personal property. private property includes personal property and real property. fascism protects private property, it does not collectivize any form of property. >""He"" doesn't have liberty, he is free by virtue of his nation having liberty. liberty is what naturally arises when a person is left alone. as social animals we are constantly having our liberty infringed upon by others to some degree. where do you draw the line where a person is absolutely free? >all that could prevent it from infiltrating again. many libertarian philosophers have explained how private law enforcement would work. every private security firm that wants business would be in the business of physical removal, so to speak.",,Anonymous,1503120638611.gif,iUakj9WwjeBHNNwP1uNvtw==,,,1504131897 139658175,139681164,2017-08-30 22:29:25,"Explain this to me >my coworker gets a cranial implant that grants him perfect memory >gets promoted >anyone who wants promotions needs to get a cranial implant >anyone who doesn't get the implant is living in a cardboard box on the street in 5 years, everyone who gets them is running fortune 500 companies This is a situation in which you are being economically forced to surrender your humanity in order to survive in the modern world",,Anonymous,1500243591465.gif,DnSkNuSKzklsKFjbwk4mHA==,US,,1504132165 139658175,139681605,2017-08-30 22:34:24,">>139678947 Free market capitalism gives people the ultimate incentive, to get rich by serving others its the only system to turn greed to productive use. >>139678471 Good point, just as atheism isn't a religion Liberty doesn't asign value beyond subjectivity.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504132464 139658175,139681934,2017-08-30 22:37:55,">>139679704 https://mises.org/library/libertarian-manifesto-pollution In short, recognise it as an act of aggression and handle it as such. >>139679871 Because they recognise wealth can only be increased by the production of infrastructure and capital, and that a fortori government makes us all poorer in the long run.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504132675 139658175,139681950,2017-08-30 22:38:05,">>139679704 Just look at the history of privately owned nature vs state owned. Private sandalwood forests vs state owned forests, one is grown, protected & sustainably regrown to increase the value and future yielf, the other logged with no regard. Look at Scottish salmon stream privatization, legalizing farmers in Africa for game hunting saved endangered species & reduced poaching vs when the state bans it and the animals go extinct through illegal poaching and no incentive to protect them. Don't even need to give you the logical argument behind it because history is crystal clear about property vs the commons, private for profit vs the state for re-election.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504132685 139658175,139682019,2017-08-30 22:38:52,">>139681164 >Forced False, violence wasn't used once.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504132732 139658175,139682052,2017-08-30 22:39:11,">>139680760 Stop using that flag if you're just shilling for libs. Fascism collectivizes every form of property. That doesn't mean it refuses to recognize people's possessions and tries to redistribute everything like communists. I said personal property because the ""private"" property you're talking about is in the capitalist sense; a person exclusively owning something, in their own right, as an individual, separate from the public. This does not exist in fascism. It doesn't even exist in democracies, really. Only an illusion of it. >liberty is what naturally arises when a person is left alone Living within a society is the opposite of being left alone. >where do you draw the line where a person is absolutely free? When they aren't participating in a society, or rather when they aren't subject to the influence of any society's actions. >every private security firm that wants business would be in the business of physical removal It's too bad their clients will pay more for the physical removal of competitors that are immediately affecting their financial security than for communists that aren't immediately affecting their financial security. Is this how all those libertarian philosophers explain how it would work? Or was it more like >Firms that aren't moral will lose business >for some reason >don't ask me what that reason is",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504132751 139658175,139682124,2017-08-30 22:40:02,">>139679871 So their incomes can natural rise, standard of living increase, cost of living decrease, access to new & better goods and services increase, have their rights as an individual live their life how they see fit protected, small business & working class having power back off of the state created & maintained corporations/monopolies, the question is who the fuck wouldn't? A poor person who would have more opportunities and will be looked after better? Nah only the lazy ,the rent seekers, the leeches & the evil fear freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504132802 139658175,139682217,2017-08-30 22:41:12,">>139682019 If you're wandering the savannah and it rains, you will be forced to build a shelter. If you're hungry, you will be forced to fashion a spear and go on the hunt. Economic circumstances force you to do things all the time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504132872 139658175,139682227,2017-08-30 22:41:20,">>139681164 Farfetched fantasy. You don't need a cranial implant to have a small business, be self-employed, be a busker on the street or setup street food, or a lemonade stand, or a like minded any transhuman community, to enjoy nature & natural preferences.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504132880 139658175,139682230,2017-08-30 22:41:23,">>139658175 Friendly reminder that lolbertarian ethics created the socjus entitlement we see today, the system doesn't work without the sociological power of a pervasive force like Christianity",,Anonymous,come to the right side.png,fCie9cNPI/8eT5mOgND2+Q==,US,,1504132883 139658175,139682297,2017-08-30 22:42:12,"Hoppeans aren't real libertarians. You have people like Chris Cantwell (or whatever his name is) in your community who have been caught associating with white nationalists, using violence against innocent people and threatening further violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504132932 139658175,139682339,2017-08-30 22:42:35,">>139682227 >Farfetched fantasy. No it isn't, this is literally the future. Imagine the olympics, where every single athlete is pumping themselves full of steroids. If you're the one athlete who isn't, you won't make the cut. Similar story, if you're the one guy who doesn't go for the gene therapies and cranial implants, you're going to be in the poorhouse",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504132955 139658175,139682359,2017-08-30 22:42:47,">>139682217 > forced to plant a veggie garden > equates to needing a cranial implant or living in a box mate, that's just fantasy. You should make a movie not base it on voting habits.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504132967 139658175,139682413,2017-08-30 22:43:23,">>139682339 I gave you counter examples, to assume every human would need a cranial implant just to survive is absurd.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504133003 139658175,139682465,2017-08-30 22:43:57,">>139681605 >to get rich by serving others That's not how you get rich in free market capitalism. And the ultimate incentive is survival. >its the only system to turn greed to productive use It turns greed to destructive use. You cannot have it be productive with capitalism, as capitalism mandates there is nothing to be productive TOWARDS. The economy, and thus the society, is shattered into a million pieces which are divided into the hands of a million capitalists each with their own interests (none of which involves your safety or prosperity)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504133037 139658175,139682537,2017-08-30 22:44:40,">>139682413 It makes you more economically productive, of course you would need it. In the future, if you don't choose to have a designer baby, your children will be absolutely fucked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504133080 139658175,139682595,2017-08-30 22:45:08,">>139682052 >Fascism collectivizes every form of property. where do you pull this shit from? mussolini didn't do this, franco didn't do this, pinochet didn't do this. yeah i get that you're a marxist by your use of ""personal property"". what you fail to understand is private property is a very real thing and it is the basis of civilization. without it we are cave men. because marxists can't understand this fact is why libertarians and fascists are agreed in your necessary physical removal from society. >Is this how all those libertarian philosophers explain how it would work? i am not going to spoonfeed you like a child. you can search the internet yourself, or find any number of books on the subject.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504133108 139658175,139682966,2017-08-30 22:49:29,">>139682595 Yeah I definitely feel your post. These retards need their hands held for every bit of information finding. They can't even figure out that socialism isn't just one thing. When one group says it's ""redistribution of materials and production to everyone"" and the other emphasizes the meritocratic aspects of socialism, they can't even get past the first bit of conversation. I'm not even trying to nazi shill right now, but ffs these people need to stop listening to Molymeme and Crowder and pick up a book",,Anonymous,Hitler on Socialism.jpg,5TXU1MhF5LHwWdpakiwA8A==,US,,1504133369 139658175,139683013,2017-08-30 22:49:57,">>139682537 I dont know why you assume this, some people will always value natural lives and are extremely productive without these imaginary technologies, thus like minded people can form communities and not need anything other than what they want/need and can already provide.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504133397 139658175,139683177,2017-08-30 22:51:39,">>139682465 Prove it. Free market = production = getting rich by serving others. If I produce enough potatoes to eat i can produce more potatoes to sell to others, thus helping them and being productive rather than destructive. You're willfully ignoring the very basis of economy you ignorant bootlicker. Cunt have you even graduated highschool yet?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504133499 139658175,139683182,2017-08-30 22:51:40,>>139682966,,Anonymous,ancap_reading.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,GB,,1504133500 139658175,139683287,2017-08-30 22:52:51,">>139683013 >some people will always value natural lives but they would get outcompeted by those that don't. They'll be making a tiny fraction of the money, only have the resources to have a few children, while those who embrace the future have the resources to have many. This is what happened to native americans Competition ensures that the most economically productive thing is what will perpetuate itself, and that happens to be transhumanism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504133571 139658175,139683294,2017-08-30 22:52:56,">>139683013 >IQ differences in human beings >lolbertarians can't accept that genes are a thing >commies insist it's intentional oppression, or even subconscious despite every effort to accommodate minorities >even if those minorities are doing better >lolbertarians have to shut their mouths and get pegged every time this is brought up",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504133576 139658175,139683353,2017-08-30 22:53:35,">>139682124 Why would their incomes rise? Without the safety net of welfare, employers have almost complete control over their employees through wage-slavery. We saw this pre-reform, with the six/seven day twelve hour working weeks. The labour laws and regulations currently put in place are there to limit the exploitation of the working class to a degree that's at least acceptable. I do not, as a working person, see how the removal of my protections as beneficial to anyone other than capitalists that seek only to maximise their own personal gain.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504133615 139658175,139683387,2017-08-30 22:53:54,">>139682595 They all did it. You are just a brainwashed capitalist shill who's incapable of understanding things outside of a capitalism vs marxism context. The cave men were the ones who practiced your absolutist philosophy of private property, genius. >This is my food >If you take my food I'll kill you Whereas the basis of civilization was farmers doing extra labor to create more food than they needed, for the explicit purpose of others having it. And for that arrangement to be under the sanction of a third party (government) >Bring up security firms to argue your point >Get challenged >""Hurr just go do your own research!""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504133634 139658175,139683473,2017-08-30 22:54:48,">>139683182 I'm going to guess most of the people ITT haven't read a single one of those. Friendly reminder that the Cato institute and real libertarian organizations are in favor of mass immigration because it's good for big companies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504133688 139658175,139683728,2017-08-30 22:57:34,">>139683287 Nonsense, people are natural now and can produce extremely high amounts of resources. Like minded people in a community can produce all they could want/need. I think humans will fail to achieve transhumanism so i dont care, but the modern man right now is incredibly productive. >>139683353 The same reason anyone earns above the minimum wage, economic principles of supply/demand work and the 19th & 20th century prove it unequivocally that ordinary workers benefit greatly from freedom and relatively free markets. Wage slavery is a leftist meme to ignore economic reality. They artificially limit the supply of employers and wonder why there arent enough employer to bid up wages like there used to be. They aren't protecting you they are benefiting them and your fear prevents your life from improving as we always have worked towards before state meddling.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504133854 139658175,139683803,2017-08-30 22:58:28,">>139683182 >against intellectual property",,Anonymous,1467859037580.png,WK4pQbD6i9Nv2xZJiFPddA==,US,,1504133908 139658175,139683949,2017-08-30 23:00:09,">>139683177 >If I produce enough potatoes to eat i can produce more potatoes to sell to others That's not going to get you rich. It's a free market. Your competitor down in the neighboring village uses better advertising than you, convincing everyone his potatoes are better. Sorry lad, you're putting in all that labor to create extra potatoes for nothing. Also, it's destructive because your ownership of those potatoes and their distribution is done for your own personal financial interests. As soon as this endeavor is no longer in your financial interests, you will stop. I love how fucking triggered libs and AnCaps get when they're forced to come to terms with them being braindead tools for the destruction of white civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504134009 139658175,139684041,2017-08-30 23:01:11,">>139683728 >people are natural now and can produce extremely high amounts of resources Just like the native americans could live productive lives hunting bison. Until the white man came and turned their hunting grounds into farms. Now that lifestyle has become impossible, not enough bison left, not enough space, not enough grazing land. Essentially this entire way of life was replaced by something more economically productive, you can't live that life anymore even if you wanted to. you're going to find it more and more impossible to live what you might consider a traditional, natural human lifestyle in the future.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504134071 139658175,139684097,2017-08-30 23:01:43,">>139683182 Haven't seen this around before, seems to be missing some obvious Classical Liberal stuff that is foundational to Ancap reading but is this just trying to be Ancap only? Rather than Libertarian broad?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504134103 139658175,139684289,2017-08-30 23:03:53,">>139679028 >you have nothing to fear from a fascist regime >fascism is an absolute guarantee of the individual's right to his private property and thus his liberty Imagine being this delusional",,Anonymous,1494001452336.jpg,9F1e22wS1ENHBvjYLLegZQ==,,,1504134233 139658175,139684675,2017-08-30 23:08:33,">>139684041 Except with private property there is nothing the compels an areas from being anything other than a naturally preserved state of man with whatever level of technology they want. There's nothing guaranteeing that these specific enhancements if ever possible would produce the same replacement result in a libertarian society or just have more productive but similarly looking groups still planting & farming. Your imagination is the only thing forcing you to believe this one outcome of technology that isn't even here yet and its the only thing forcing you to ignore what things capitalism has and will continue to preserve alongside its advancements. >>139683949 You're not making any sense. People get rich in a free market because at some point they are productive of things other people want, by definition & reality. You haven't explained what's destructive about growing extra potatos to feed other people just same vague nonsense about self interest. If people need to eat, then people will produce food, financial interests? Yeah once everyones fed forever then you might not need to grow anymore potatos so whats the problem? But people need to be fed regularly so thats nonsense too. You're not even trying mate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504134513 139658175,139684718,2017-08-30 23:08:56,">>139684289 >ID says Obey >arguing against fascism what does it mean",,Anonymous,1497381830961.jpg,7oqQ2yg45cTHl5JL35VXXw==,US,,1504134536 139658175,139684759,2017-08-30 23:09:19,">>139684289 Hes' right though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504134559 139658175,139684827,2017-08-30 23:10:07,">>139684675 private property is whatever the highest bidder wants it to be. That includes land as well I wonder how the Amish would fare if they were subject to high rents and property taxes. They'd have to sell their land to suburbs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504134607 139658175,139684831,2017-08-30 23:10:10,">>139684718 HAHAHA oh shit good perception",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504134610 139658175,139684924,2017-08-30 23:11:14,">>139684675 >Your imagination is the only thing forcing you to believe this one outcome of technology that isn't even here yet anyone with a brain sees that this is what's coming you're like someone in the early 1800's saying that horseless carriages are a pipe dream",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504134674 139658175,139684989,2017-08-30 23:11:52,">>139684759 >being this retarded Any government is a threat to property rights no matter how small",,Anonymous,,,,,1504134712 139658175,139685197,2017-08-30 23:14:09,">>139684989 Atomization is the problem. Lack of social cohesion is a problem. There are plenty of governments that can protect property rights, like ours has. And yes, Fascist governments as well. The problem is, commies have a better chance of converting normies than you do. After all, don't you want roads? Don't you want to help the poor? The sick? Charity hasn't curbed these problems in comparison to the social democracies of Europe you know.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504134849 139658175,139685391,2017-08-30 23:16:16,">>139683728 Wage-slavery is not a ""leftist-meme"". It's just simple reality for the working class. How is it a meme? With your system you cannot survive without serving your employer. They essentially own you. The only choice you get is picking a new master. There is no artifical limits to the supply of employers, it is just that there is a barrier of entry set. This (theoretically) means workers do not end up being employed by those without the means to actually maintain a stable company. Are you joking about ""bidding up"" wages? Wages for low-skilled work are naturally a race to the bottom. The capitalist class benefits from maximum exploitation of the working class's labour, and the working class benefits from regulations that lessen the exploitation that takes place. Nothing you've said convinces me (as a worker, not a capitalist) that I'd be better off under your system. It's pretty clear that this system only benefits Capitalists.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504134976 139658175,139685554,2017-08-30 23:18:09,">>139684675 >the things other people want are productive to the society Cute. >You haven't explained what's destructive about growing extra potatos to feed other people Why would I? That's not capitalism. Why do you abandon your principles as soon as you're forced to defend them? >If people need to eat, then people will produce food """"""people"""""" will, yeah. But not you, unless it's in your financial interests. Meaning it will be someone else. And they'll also stop when it's not in their financial interests anymore. In other words, all I have to do to control your society's source of food is make selling your farms to me be in your financial interests. You have a naive middle-schooler's understanding of economics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504135089 139658175,139685618,2017-08-30 23:18:49,">>139685391 >""Wages for low-skilled work are naturally a race to the bottom."" That's true, but that means that: >lowering wages benefits companies over individuals >lolbertarians advocate for corporate entities over working and lower class individuals circumstances >lolbertarians have become the collectivists in favor of a corporatist superstructure",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504135129 139658175,139685683,2017-08-30 23:19:27,">>139685391 >can't survive without serving your employer then why don't you fucking become the employer, i can't believe i have to point this out.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504135167 139658175,139685693,2017-08-30 23:19:33,">>139683387 your understanding of anthropology is pathetic, i'm sorry. >>139684989 the smallest government there is is a privately owned one (fascism, monarchy). it's the monarch's best interest to keep the government small. on the other hand, a publicly owned government (democracy, communism) is necessarily large. you're right that government is an infringement of liberty, but if it is necessary then it should be small and privately owned",,Anonymous,,,,,1504135173 139658175,139685702,2017-08-30 23:19:36,"ITT we have: Communists: >>139685391 Fascists: >>139685197 Libertarians: >>139684989 and fucking Luddites: >>139684924 this is amazing, it's like a mish mash of every single competing political narrative in a four way crash",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504135176 139658175,139686076,2017-08-30 23:23:58,">>139685702 lmao ""luddite""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504135438 139658175,139686184,2017-08-30 23:25:05,">>139685693 That's not an argument. And stop apologizing to me, princess.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504135505 139658175,139686915,2017-08-30 23:32:56,">>139686184 this is such a fucking chore but i'm going to do this and i'm not responding to you any more >They all did it factually wrong. you're just talking out your ass >The cave men were the ones who practiced your absolutist philosophy of private property, genius. every ethnography of tribal civilizations has revealed that they are very egalitarian (not understanding division of labor, which itself stems from private property) and practice collective property ownership. also, marks and engels point this out as their argument for why communism is good, that ""primitive communism"" is preferrable to artificial capitalism. this proves that you have never even actually read marx. >Whereas the basis of civilization was farmers doing extra labor to create more food than they needed, for the explicit purpose of others having it. the basis of civilization is division of labor, which comes from the concept of private property. marx points this out as well but dismisses for basically being a spook. the fascists and capitalists recognize legitimacy in such spooks because without them everything goes to shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504135976 139658175,139686952,2017-08-30 23:33:19,">>139684827 Implying anyone is compelled to sell their land or that the entire world population would have to sell their land to a bunch of rich transhumanists and not be able to live off it or sustain a community/society without selling out. >>139684924 I'm not a ludite mate, I just think you put too much stock in a single scenario your imagination has convinced YOU of, not me. I can see similar scenarios but imagine them playing out a little differently.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504135999 139658175,139687186,2017-08-30 23:35:47,">>139686952 Transhumanism will destroy us all Here's just a preview of what's coming: >Designer babies that are super strong, super intelligent, genetically unique from all current humans >Body modifications that vastly improve strength, speed, stamina. Robotic legs, arms, muscle fibers >Cranial implants that grant perfect memory, boosted IQ's, the ability to surf internet in your brain >Gene therapies that can turn males into females on the DNA level. Alter behaviors, gene expression And slightly further down the line: >Biological immortality (think it's not possible? it's coming) >Advanced, self-evolving AI that far surpasses all human limitations >Post-human life forms that totally dominate all life on earth in every possible respect This is the end of all tradition, all history, all life as you know it. Everything will be assimilated",,Anonymous,1501402988867.jpg,p359C2gr1LAltFnPnyLC0g==,US,,1504136147 139658175,139687697,2017-08-30 23:41:42,">>139686915 >factually wrong Not an argument. >every ethnography of tribal civilizations Cave men weren't tribal. Congrats on being more primitive than peyote-smoking hippies who chased bison. >division of labor, which comes from the concept of private property. And you're completely unable to prove this, despite reciting it over and over like a prayer. Why is that, I wonder? Is it because it's actually the other way around? >It's still private property even though the state/authority/local god-king reserves the right to seize and reallocate it at their own discretion. This is your brain on capitalism.",,Anonymous,1478670271180.jpg,IcuW59q5EK3r5CiBi8Q5Ag==,US,,1504136502 139658175,139687761,2017-08-30 23:42:21,">>139682230 >military spending >mixed markets Begone, post-Keynesian bottomfeeder!",,Anonymous,Keynesianism.png,djk99OutN5qRsnxY1kSGkQ==,,,1504136541 139658175,139687839,2017-08-30 23:43:04,">>139679750 No I'm advocating for a capitalism that adheres to the all white, conservative contract. If you beach contract its no longer capitalist values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504136584 139658175,139687984,2017-08-30 23:44:49,">>139676666 Beautiful post Dr Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504136689 139658175,139688009,2017-08-30 23:45:08,">>139658175 Henry George checking in.",,Anonymous,geolibertarian.jpg,VQg5CGVDwJT8pqg0y+9wmg==,,,1504136708 139658175,139688018,2017-08-30 23:45:14,">>139685391 > wages for low skilled workers are a race to the bottom All of economic history disagrees with you there. Before the 30's low skilled wages were on the up and up and still continued up into the early 20th century. It's all supply/demand and the beautiful state restrictions flipped this and created a race to the bottom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504136714 139658175,139688126,2017-08-30 23:46:47,">>139685554 > growing potatos to trade or sell isn't capitalism > why do you abandon your principles Why are you speaking nonsense? > all I have to do to control your society's source of food is make selling your farms to me be in your financial interests You have a naive middle-schooler's understanding of business.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504136807 139658175,139688287,2017-08-30 23:48:28,">>139687839 Why insist on calling it capitalism if it's not capitalism? NatSoc might interest you. Or Falangism, if you can't do without corporatism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504136908 139658175,139688603,2017-08-30 23:51:53,">>139678111 Tell them how money creation and banking works now. Preface it with a quick rundown on how money used to work when it was based on gold. The massive fraud becomes self-evident even to the most naive normie.",,Anonymous,"51FqyPL+McL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",MepJIVZ7mNm/Wrgl3TA0Nw==,CA,,1504137113 139658175,139688606,2017-08-30 23:51:55,">>139683473 Yes, the Cato institute are directly funded by Soros and the open society foundation. Those libertine communists are our sworn fucking enemy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504137115 139658175,139688645,2017-08-30 23:52:23,">>139688126 >""capitalism == private enterprise"" maymay This is insulting. Try harder, please. >You have a naive middle-schooler's understanding of business. No no, you're confused. You're only allowed to say that after you make an argument or refute a point, like I did.",,Anonymous,1498339848493.jpg,7XhP631L0eM/5cCUJjZOug==,US,,1504137143 139658175,139688702,2017-08-30 23:53:13,">>139658175 >>139658401 What exactly is the definition of leftism? I agree that homogeneous communities better serve constituents and any resulting infrastructure (social and physical), and I agree with Rothbard's point on the Civil Rights Act. That said, I don't believe that any one race or ethnic group has any better or worse traits than the other. Even high IQ - a more advantageous trait in our artificial man-made society - is an arbitrary standard of greatness. You say you don't welcome this ""live and let live faggotry"" but who am I or anyone else to question or place value on any group or any individual's worth in the grand evolutionary spectrum? How does the right (and left I suppose) mediate these discrepancies? Pic somewhat related.",,Anonymous,579343_4066682864803_1248363083_n.jpg,oOAOloD0q+Gkz4YanBf28Q==,US,,1504137193 139658175,139688753,2017-08-30 23:53:42,>>139658175,,Anonymous,1502929399774.jpg,ddcup9TVMhVmU6uG7ORTRQ==,US,,1504137222 139658175,139688913,2017-08-30 23:55:17,">>139688702 Leftism is egalitarianism. Rightism is hierarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504137317 139658175,139689557,2017-08-31 00:02:36,">>139688287 I'm familiar with the NatSoc perspective. I like many of its values. But I think the philosophy is blind to free association and the philosophical values that make whites who we are. The nsdap model is not for me, the anglocentric individualist philosophy works best Imo. Voluntary association is what makes high trust societies. Not state coercion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504137756 139658175,139689940,2017-08-31 00:06:40,">>139688603 Ah fractional reserve fiat system, Ron Paul style good good. >>139688645 You made no argument, refuted no points just made a bunch of nonsense assertions not based in historical, practical or theoretical reality. Read more blab shit less, your inflated ego is irritating and getting in the way of the good dialogue that can be found here.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504138000 139658175,139690529,2017-08-31 00:13:44,">>139688913 How exactly are the levels of the hierarchy defined? The way I see it, human civilization as a whole is no better or worse than a herd of cattle. By human standards, yes - we have spoken language, plumbing systems, computing technology, etc, though I tend to break it down to the metaphysical level in that there's no objective party to determine whether or not this is better or worse than grazing all day. We as humans place ourselves on a higher hierarchical level than cattle because we are their predators and have the biological and evolutionary means necessary to overtake them. To what extent is this hierarchy and left/right categorization defined by morality and the natural world? Isn't morality an inherent, irrational, natural truth and construct?",,Anonymous,1473619068098.jpg,xp1CqvBeq4AH4WlWebfOcg==,US,,1504138424 139658175,139690569,2017-08-31 00:14:13,">>139689940 >not based in historical, practical or theoretical reality Still waitin' on that argument. Will it ever come?",,Anonymous,1489278532453.jpg,Vd0hHP3yPe7o/EvCJoe4hw==,US,,1504138453 139658175,139690721,2017-08-31 00:16:03,">>139690569 Ladies first.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504138563 139658175,139690995,2017-08-31 00:19:05,">>139690721 >>If people need to eat, then people will produce food >""""""people"""""" will, yeah. But not you, unless it's in your financial interests. >Meaning it will be someone else. And they'll also stop when it's not in their financial interests anymore. >In other words, all I have to do to control your society's source of food is make selling your farms to me be in your financial interests. Tick-tock, tick-tock",,Anonymous,1490439035956.jpg,HCYkMklmibekmkgTDAPVeg==,US,,1504138745 139658175,139691021,2017-08-31 00:19:20,Join Anti-communist action today!,,Anonymous,IMG_1666.jpg,/XaE8dfr4EMkfSIVude5Bg==,US,,1504138760 139658175,139691053,2017-08-31 00:19:44,">>139658175 >try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments >Natural Order pick one...",,Anonymous,1503889876166m.jpg,9xAlfVid6agNPki5Fojz3A==,,,1504138784 139658175,139691123,2017-08-31 00:20:34,"We are a political organization dedicated to acting in self defense measures against Antifa terrorists, as well as informing others of the dangers of communism/socialism",,Anonymous,IMG_1629.png,vfl7fkn3kqfMIetnwyaPtg==,US,,1504138834 139658175,139691205,2017-08-31 00:21:39,,,Anonymous,IMG_1631.jpg,h7aZMqITIvB7RWttvd1rRg==,US,,1504138899 139658175,139691293,2017-08-31 00:22:42,,,Anonymous,IMG_1630.jpg,UU8viPBfOND3LFSU9cE6RQ==,US,,1504138962 139658175,139691388,2017-08-31 00:23:47,,,Anonymous,IMG_1626.jpg,I7hmpAq8j1XXtrDPnyA/vQ==,US,,1504139027 139658175,139691495,2017-08-31 00:25:03,,,Anonymous,IMG_1623.png,i5lW2eHkv0H8/CEXC+6SRw==,US,,1504139103 139658175,139691541,2017-08-31 00:25:32,">>139690529 Hierarchy is the result if inequality. If two people are not equal, then it follows that one must be greater than the other. Hierarchy is not chosen or arbitrated. It is a natural order, the cream simply rises to the top. I myself do not see the whole as cattle, tho many undoubtedly are there many cattle. The concept that we are one class ""cattle"" is an egalitarian concept. It assumes we are interchangeable equal parts which is clearly not reality. Some people are smart and some are strong, they have different roles in civil society because they are unequal, and not because they are equal pieces of the same matter.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504139132 139658175,139691622,2017-08-31 00:26:33,">>139691021 lol, nice larping. but seriously, if there was an actual 'alt-alt-right' that were just libertarian tards and ancaps that rumble in the street with antifa that would be hilarious.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504139193 139658175,139691636,2017-08-31 00:26:48,">>139691053 Hierarchy is the natural order, get used to it faggot. Get a job faggot wage slave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504139208 139658175,139691673,2017-08-31 00:27:20,">>139658421 oh pfshhhh, like humans aren't naturally degenerate",,Anonymous,,,,,1504139240 139658175,139691763,2017-08-31 00:28:12,">>139690995 > one sentance in a dozen posts of shit Okay fine then, since I did mimic your bs in response to this one I'll explain why I disagree. There isn't a defined threshold of ""financial interests"" where you can buy out the entire worlds food supply, practically impossible and ignores subjective values and the inability that you'll be able to define this threshold. Financial interests in your eyes probably means profit yeah? You alone can't stop the production of food too feed people from being profitable, when free to do so this has never been done and goes against economic principles like supply & demand curves where if the demand exists and it's possible to supply it will be supplied. It also ignores some peoples virtuous nature as far as charity, family, community etc go. I think this idea that you can control a societies food source is nonsense and doesn't in anyway prove that capitalism is destructive rather than productive as long as examples like potatos and literally everything else in existing prove that capitalism incentivizes people to produce for others in order to gain personally. It turns greed productive and allows people to get rich by serving more and more people just as 1 store gets you X amount of wealth but 10,000 stores available to billions of people can get you just that much wealthier. There's your benefit of the doubt even though I swear you wasted a half dozen posts just asserting nonsense & ignoring the examples I gave but whatever, I take bait sometimes. >>139691123 > ACA Does this actually exist yet? Like was there a presence in the last riots?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504139292 139658175,139691977,2017-08-31 00:30:36,">>139691763 Yes we do exist, we've recently started reaching to people especially through social media - we were also present as Charlottesville, as well as at an anti-trump rally in New York. So far our biggest chapters are in SoCal, and Florida",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504139436 139658175,139692167,2017-08-31 00:32:48,">>139691673 Humans can be degenerates or not, humans are free to chose what they want be. This anons for example choose be retards.",,Anonymous,19961251_1922851917971103_7281212412701016122_n.jpg,Gom/+SV/jwyep/aoMkuKcw==,,,1504139568 139658175,139692355,2017-08-31 00:35:11,">>139691977 What's the tactics, purely strong arm or activism as well?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504139711 139658175,139692422,2017-08-31 00:35:54,">>139658175 lolbertarians are jews",,Anonymous,corporations_treading_on_you.jpg,GUtLX416EZ9Np0hSip/I6Q==,,,1504139754 139658175,139692626,2017-08-31 00:38:03,">>139692355 Our tactics aren't on offense, we use completely legal methods in order to protect right wingers/trump supporters from being attacked/mobbed by Antifa/bank/Blm etc.As for the activism part, as said, we're trying to reach out to more people than before by using social media, so far we put up posters, gain members, speak out against commies, and if your chapter becomes large enough we encourage you to hold a rally at least at some point to let the rest of the world know you're there",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504139883 139658175,139692743,2017-08-31 00:39:40,">>139658175 Take the real redpill, ancaps. I used to be one of you. Until I saw the light. Join us, and together we can crush the left under our collective boot for a better world.",,Anonymous,1502937472425.jpg,K9UgqvRFQokEm4jJy1QEGA==,,,1504139980 139658175,139692924,2017-08-31 00:42:17,">>139692743 Fuck off shill we're trying to actually get somewhere here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504140137 139658175,139692957,2017-08-31 00:42:43,">>139692743 You were probably a cucked open borders fag. I doubt you were ever really one of us. I'd still crush the left with you tho.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504140163 139658175,139693070,2017-08-31 00:44:09,">>139691541 I agree that different creeds of people and species are inherently unequal and thus serve different purposes in society and the natural world. I also concede that this is not ""chosen"" and is the result of complex biological and evolutionary systems beyond any human control. The issue is how value is weighted to these inequalities and how that differentiates the left and right. Does wanting those of a different race or lifestyle (e.g. LGBTQA) to live a separate, yet peaceful, lifestyle make one a leftist? What about recognizing these differences and inequalities yet treating people with respect and moral integrity?",,Anonymous,1467572618864.jpg,8dwXjhoW2RFLrfx29IEZtg==,US,,1504140249 139658175,139693099,2017-08-31 00:44:30,"All the negativity & pessimism aside, why do you like freedom & Liberty? What makes a free voluntary society beautiful in your minds? Is it the possibility of technological advancement? Is it the moral & peaceful possibilities? Is it being able to group with like minded people for your subjective preferences? Is it a step towards a future or a step towards a beautiful past?",,Anonymous,9wuiKGd.jpg.png,5yGPO2Tt7Kg3OZ9rIExz8A==,,,1504140270 139658175,139693306,2017-08-31 00:46:46,">>139691763 >There isn't a defined threshold of ""financial interests"" where you can buy out the entire worlds food supply >the entire worlds food supply strawman.jpeg We're talking about an individual society. And a defined threshold isn't needed for the entire market. It's not being bought all at once. That isn't how economies work. >You alone can't stop the production of food too feed people from being profitable >You alone strawman.png And I literally debunked this argument in what I greentexted. It doesn't matter that the production of food will always be profitable. It's not always going to be profitable for the people currently doing it, and once it's not, they're incentivized to abandon it in favor of a more profitable enterprise. Otherwise they lose. That's what a free market means. >It also ignores some peoples virtuous nature as far as charity, family, community etc go Yes, capitalism does ignore this, that's why I didn't factor it into my scenario. >examples like potatos and literally everything else in existing prove that capitalism incentivizes people to produce for others in order to gain personally Private enterprise is not capitalism. This is what I said about you abandoning your principles as soon as you're forced to defend them. You start pretending capitalism is as vague as possible and only talk about aspects of it that are present in the majority of other systems.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504140406 139658175,139693353,2017-08-31 00:47:18,"If humans (or the human body) can be considered property, and all humans are born with ownership of themselves, would selling oneself into slavery be permitted in a libertarian society?",,Anonymous,1503960695330.gif,tf8BKMcctW2EyQ9NliVR/g==,,,1504140438 139658175,139694037,2017-08-31 00:55:51,">>139693099 >why do you like freedom & Liberty? I want to be whatever kind of person I want to be without the will of the state intervening. I want to thrive as an individual without limiting others from doing so as well; such a thing is only possible if we can be an individuals, and that can only be possible in a libertarian order. >What makes a free voluntary society beautiful in your minds? Great things can happen in a voluntary society because there are people with lots of potential out there. The state tends to be a limiting factor with regards to what we can achieve given any amount of time.",,Anonymous,1492126263095.jpg,pr4DeIw7Iuf9pKFhTKAt/g==,,,1504140951 139658175,139694147,2017-08-31 00:57:10,">>139693099 >>139694037 And I also want to be left alone",,Anonymous,,,,,1504141030 139658175,139694291,2017-08-31 00:58:57,">>139693099 >Is it the possibility of technological advancement? No, since your freedom doesn't promote this unless it's for the satisfaction of mindless consumers. >Is it the moral & peaceful possibilities No, since your freedom doesn't offer any effective means to secure them even if the possibilities are realized. >Is it being able to group with like minded people for your subjective preferences? Definitely not, since there are a lot of destructive or disgusting """"""preferences"""""" that ought not to be tolerated.",,Anonymous,1493801028777.jpg,IENPNShhTJqzB+bNY/jL6g==,US,,1504141137 139658175,139694451,2017-08-31 01:01:02,">>139693070 Separations are no problem, there's nothing egalitarian about two or more unequal societies chosen by some trait. I would even prefer living in a different society that lgbt fags and cosmopolitans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504141262 139658175,139694481,2017-08-31 01:01:23,"Everytime I imagine Libertarian capital cities I can't get passed beautiful coloured lights, there's something about them that just screams a beautiful free future, a fifth element/blade runner aesthetic compared to concrete dull statist commie blocks. >>139693353 It's pretty hard to do. Let's say you sign a contract fair enough, but at the end of the day your conciousness seems to always be there overarching the whole thing. But if its contractual is it really slavery? >>139693306 > strawman > isn't how economies work Okay? You're still talking about ""all I have to do to control a societies food"" which implied a threshold from where you could control societies food by quote ""making it in your financial interests"". Not sure where the strawman is, you're not bothering to expand on assertions. >>139693306 > strawman How? > production of food will always be profitable So you agree? > for the people currently doing it, and once it's not, they're incentivized to abandon it ..and your point is? Absurd, you made points about controlling food, food only being produced if its in someones financial interests for what ultimate point? > Yes, capitalism does ignore this Funny, prove it. > Private enterprise is not capitalism. So you're strawmanning capitalism into your own imagination now? What is capitalism then? Maybe define terms of things you're criticising because no one knows wtf you're on about. > pretending capitalism is as vague as possible > only talk about aspects of it that are present in other systems. You dive into specifics & I go more specific to refute your point, there's no problem here. Maybe you should define capitalism and tell me why private enterprise isn't capitalim because none of this is making any sense anymore. You're trolling so fucking hard with nonsensical claims about a free market being destructive not productive contrary to literally all of human history",,Anonymous,chongqing-night.jpg,Teu+ri/AOoYwb6V/HCd5Kg==,,,1504141283 139658175,139695920,2017-08-31 01:20:43,">>139694481 >which implied a threshold from where you could control societies food What are you actually talking about at this point? I didn't ""expand"" on my assertions because I thought you had a basic grasp on free market capitalism. >Local Farmer ""Bill"" owns potato farm, makes profit >Company ""Farms-Incorporated"" opens their own potato farm, has more resources and better advertising, takes Bill's customers >Bill no longer makes any profits. Farms-Incorporated offers to buy his farm >Bill accepts, because it's in his financial interests, and the money from selling his farm can serve as startup for his next venture >Repeat with Local Farmer Bob, who owns a wheat farm >Repeat with Local Farmer George, who owns a dairy farm >Repeat... Where is there a ""defined threshold""? >How? You claimed I was saying I could do it alone. >So you agree? With something that I had never disputed or argued against? Sure. >for what ultimate point? Do you see nothing wrong with a private entity, who is beholden to nothing besides his own personal motives, controlling something that's necessary for the entire society to survive? >Funny, prove it. A business who gives its profits away to charity will lose to a competitor who invests its profits in expanding. A family that commits their money to raising a lot of kids will be less wealthy than the neighbors who used their money to make more money. >What is capitalism then? The private OWNERSHIP of a society by individuals working for personal profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504142443 139658175,139696650,2017-08-31 01:30:04,">>139695920 So economies of scale is your only argument for why capitalism isn't productive and it doesn't allow people to get rich serving others? jesus christ. > controlling something that's necessary for the entire society to survive? Because that's not how life, property & capitalism work. We start off in a state of poverty and people found it profitable to serve others by being productive, the demand for food led to land being used for the cultivation of food, other people can only get food by being subsistence farmers or producing an excess that can be traded. Demand/Supply curves mean that what people want/need is what land is used for. Private property allows people to keep the fruits of their labour which is necessary for civilization, cultivation and ultimately trade. > The private OWNERSHIP of a society by individuals working for personal profit. Which leads to private enterprise, trade, supply/demand relationships, economic incentives, the rising standard of living of man, prospering by providing for what others need yes yes we know this already. > A business who gives its profits away to charity will lose to a competitor who invests its profits in expanding. Ahh so your ultimate fear is what? That it won't become profitable to produce food one day? That Freedom leads to centralization of resources, yet history shows decentralization is the effect of freedom besides efficiencies, centraliation & monopoly come from violence, the state, state created & subsidized corporations not competition & removing barriers to entry. It's almost as if you're implying that the more we respect property rights & allow competition the more centralization & accumulation of resources to the top we get? Sounds like marxist bullshit that was refuted so many times before, ""if you let the capitalists get a bigger slice of the pie eventually there won't be any pie for the rest of us!"" is that what you're getting at?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504143004 139658175,139697967,2017-08-31 01:47:54,">>139696650 >He couldn't address it and has to resort to reciting things that have already been refuted >""allow people to get rich serving others"" While you're ""serving others"", your competitor is manipulating others and beating you in profits. You survive in capitalism by outcompeting others, serving them. Stop abandoning your principles. >the demand for food led to land being used for the cultivation of food, other people can only get food by being subsistence farmers or producing an excess that can be traded Congratulations, you described agrarianism. Now tell us what you imagine would happen if the people running those farms decided to horde all the food for themselves =) Capitalism would mean they're allowed to keep it, since it's their ""private property"" and nobody is entitled to the fruits of their labor. Well? Was that the case? =) >Private property allows people to keep the fruits of their labour which is necessary for civilization, cultivation and ultimately trade. No, now stop lying, please. Personal property is what allows this and it has nothing to do with capitalism. Private property allows you to unconditionally own things that are not the fruits of your labor. It's about owning portions of the society itself, not owning your own place WITHIN that society. >Which leads to private enterprise, trade, supply/demand relationships, economic incentives, the rising standard of living of man Imagine being deluded enough to think these things only exist when (((Shekelbergs))) owns all the multinational megacorporations. >That it won't become profitable to produce food one day? Read. >centralization & monopoly come from violence, the state, state created & subsidized corporations HUH? You mean the capitalists who operate on their own private interests decided to manipulate existing power structures to further their interests? That can't be! Thank goodness this would never happen in glorious AnCapistan where the power structures are EXCLUSIVELY capitalists!",,Anonymous,1500602237917.jpg,L/gztppUh1qVHY/Gn5PO8Q==,US,,1504144074 139658175,139698692,2017-08-31 01:57:59,">>139697967 > Well? Was that the case? =) The food goes rotten and they lose profit you spastic. > if the people running those farms decided to horde all the food for themselves =) > =) > =) > already refuted > =) You haven't refuted shit you've ignored reality, good on ya. Bring an argument next time. > Personal property is what allows this Listen here communist, personal property is an abitrary distinction and a toothbrush is not what allows people to produce food, it is land/private property you know this which is why you're a commie because commies don't want people to own land that is required to produce food you said it yourself. > Private property allows you to unconditionally own things that are not the fruits of your labor. That's not how ownership works, you know this stop lying. > It's about owning portions of the society itself, not owning your own place WITHIN that society. You think owning land = owning portions of the society? > (((Shekelbergs))) owns all the multinational megacorporations. Nope, just life, liberty & property, no state created megacorps necessary to own yourself, your actions and the effects of those actions. > power structures The existing power structure is justified immorality, justified monopoly above private property & individuals, justified violence, coercion & controls, by arguing against justifying violence, dismantling the only institution allowed to do this and replacing it with voluntary institutions centered around individuals and their property you level this out, decentralize it and remove the core of its immoral power which is justified violence above people & property. I wondered why someone on here would have such an absurd understanding of capitalism and lo and behold a fucking commie pretending to know how markets & freedom work. Should guessed with the first absurd post.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504144679 139658175,139699488,2017-08-31 02:09:51,">>139683182 have finished >The Prince >Anatomy of The State >The Law",,Anonymous,The Libertarian Reader.jpg,PejLKgelS9zq04ytyi1Szw==,US,,1504145391 139658175,139700241,2017-08-31 02:21:00,">>139698692 >The food goes rotten and they lose profit Wrong answer. The food is taken from them by the townsfolk and whoever leads them. Why are you ignoring history? >You haven't refuted shit >""While you're ""serving others"", your competitor is manipulating others and beating you in profits."" Feel free to respond. >Listen here communist Communism is essentially a mirror of Ancap. Stop projecting. >A toothbrush is not what allows people to produce food, it is land/private property A few acres of my land that I live on and farm is my personal property. A few acres of my land that you live on and farm is my private property. It's not arbitrary, you are just dishonest and too much of a coward to embrace the hypocrisy of your ideology. >That's not how ownership works It's how AnCaps define it. >owning land = owning portions of the society? If that land is producing things that are involved in that society's functioning, yes. >just life, liberty & property >to own yourself, your actions, and the effects of those actions. Stop advocating for capitalism then. >The existing power structure is justified immorality The justifications for an immoral state's power are completely arbitrary, and dependent on the population's tolerance. >replacing it with voluntary institutions centered around individuals and their property >OTHER individuals, and THEIR property. >not just its own Cute fantasy. Can you substantiate it with some basis in reality?",,Anonymous,1502309930768.jpg,u3wL1byyRddCGytfkTjHXQ==,US,,1504146060 139658175,139701030,2017-08-31 02:33:28,">>139700241 > It's not arbitrary Lmao, what about land that I live on and other people farm or land that I farm that other people live on? How do you define personal & private then? Most of you define private as the means of production whether it be land or factories, now you're redifining it to include land that you use? What defines use over time? What defines absenteeism? How do you differentiate means of production, is my printer personal property vs my printing press private? What if someone uses my printer to print their book and I use my own printing press? Or I go to a funeral overseas and someone pays to sleep in my house while I'm gone or look after my vegetables? Property is property because of the arguable objective link a person has to what is being claimed over other peoples rivalrous claims should they exist. Like a receipt of payment etc, it has nothing to do with use unless your ideology wants to make it about that for some reason....equality? > stop advocating capitalism Capitalism is freedom, I won't stop. > completely arbitrary, and dependent on the population's tolerance. Except not arbitrarily the the very basis for a state in reality, objectively is that it is a monopoly of force over a given geographical area, this makes it above persons & property, our alternatives that we advocate are not justified this way. > Can you substantiate it with some basis in reality? The security guard that protects a person doesn't claim to be above that person & their property, doesn't claim to have a higher right of control or ownership above them and just offers a revocable service/contract. With this example I'm just illustrating the difference in power balance & justification. A security company doesn't claim to own/control your house just cameras or guards for your house/money truck etc not the contents.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504146808 139658175,139701522,2017-08-31 02:40:20,">>139700241 What I really want to ask you, arguing & memes aside is what are your values, what kind of world do you want and what specifically is the problem method/outcome/intentions you have with Capitalism/Libertarianism? ...and maybe if you could let us know the reverse for what you believe, the intentions, method, outcomes you think are superior for your given values etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504147220 139658175,139702191,2017-08-31 02:50:49,">>139701030 I just told you how personal vs private is defined. Read instead of being a sperg and trying to extrapolate something different so you can use your rehearsed talking points. ""Means of production"" have nothing to do with this >what about all these other examples If you own it and YOU'RE using it, it's personal property. Do you have some trouble understanding what the word ""personal"" means? If you're not using it, but you still own it, it's private property. >I go to a funeral overseas and someone pays to sleep in my house while I'm gone Is the house still your residence? Do you plan to still live there when you get back? If yes, then you're using it. >Capitalism is freedom Freedom is willingly surrendering control of your well-being and prosperity to people with more money than you. Really makes me think. >objectively is that it is a monopoly of force over a given geographical area That's a lib spook and nobody who's reasonably versed in politics falls for it. Monopoly is the exclusive control of an industry/market. Force is a physical commodity. It can't be controlled by the state, which is an abstract. >The security guard that protects a person doesn't claim to be above that person & their property So? You haven't made any point with these remarks about being above people or property. It doesn't mean anything relevant to the issue of capitalists using power structures to further their own interests.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504147849 139658175,139702783,2017-08-31 03:00:33,">>139701522 My values are race, society, and nation. These are collectives, which means they can't be maintained or improved by a system that's built around individualism. We are parts of a larger whole, and the most efficient system will seek to hone those parts (private enterprise, personal reward and incentive, economic freedom, etc) ...but towards the benefit of the whole. Which is where capitalism fails catastrophically. >Why care more about the whole? Because it's the whole that advances us and affects change, which is necessary for our survival. The work of all the great inventors and theorists in history would have been utterly meaningless without a society to apply it all. Overall the problem I have with capitalism is the same I have with communism. It's a tool to subjugate our races, societies, and nations under foreign control.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504148433 139658175,139702838,2017-08-31 03:01:20,">>139702191 > If you plan to live in it in the future then you're using it and not the person currently using it Holy shit did you never stop and think that ""use"" is an incredibly arbitrary metric for determining ownership? Libertarians have already dabbled in ""use"" and refuted/shown the flaws in it decades ago. If you deconstruct what ownership is and then reconstruct it the only consistent metric is life, liberty, property, it logically follows and use just doesn't fit. Freedom is voluntary choices, free of compulsion from other people not from nature. > lib spook > monopoly is exclusive control > state is an abstract How would you define the state? The people that represent it aren't abstract they are the ones that engage in force on ""its behalf"" even though as we agree the state doesn't exist only individuals. > So? I'm differentiating these alternatives to the state because you said > You mean the capitalists who operate on their own private interests decided to manipulate existing power structures > AnCapistan where the power structures are EXCLUSIVELY capitalists!",,Anonymous,,,,,1504148480 139658175,139703250,2017-08-31 03:09:19,BUMp,,Anonymous,,,,,1504148959 139658175,139703661,2017-08-31 03:16:47,">>139702783 So you want to belong to a group? A team? What is the benefit of the whole and how can you have a greater good and not just various individual goods/values? > the whole advances us I would agree, particularly with cultural shifts, gradual change but I see it has millions of individuals and spontaneous order, millioms of individuals create a society not various (maybe arbitrary) groupings/categories but millions of individual minds acting. So your ultimate issue is globalism or your group vs outside groups? Sort of like genetic survival?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504149407 139658175,139703934,2017-08-31 03:21:55,">>139702838 If they refuted it decades ago, why can't you refute it in 2017? Why do you have to deflect and start talking about ownership itself, when the topic was two specific kinds of ownership? >Freedom is voluntary choices, free of compulsion from other people not from nature. This is jungle law, and incompatible with all the rights and laws that you plan to enforce, like private property, non-aggression, contract agreement, etc. >The people that represent it aren't abstract they are the ones that engage in force Exactly. It's people that hold the monopoly on force, and this is purely by virtue of them being able and willing to use much greater force than the people they're subjugating. The AnCap claim is that this issue will be solved by dissolving the non-existent, immaterial, intangible representation of their position at the top of the hierarchy, which does nothing besides provide arbitrary justification for their power. >I'm differentiating these alternatives to the state You haven't shown how they're alternatives. Will they be prevented from having as much strength as the state somehow?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504149715 139658175,139705492,2017-08-31 03:50:17,">>139703661 I do belong to a group. Everyone does, as a fact of nature. We choose to not recognize it, and abandon our responsibilities. Belief systems are structured to undermine it. But none of it can change underlying reality. >What is the benefit of the whole Easier survival. I could list all the smaller things like technological achievement, philosophy, culture etc but ultimately all of it ties back to survival. >Greater good It's defined by self-sacrifice. That's why it's not achievable if only individual goods/values are present. >millions of individual minds acting There are billions of individuals on the planet. If categories above that level are arbitrary, why aren't we one giant society? >So your ultimate issue is globalism or your group vs outside groups? Both.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504151417 139658175,139706695,2017-08-31 04:13:30,">>139703934 Use is insufficient because it doesn't take into account time. Use is a present action, a verb moving into the realm of use then you contradict the logic string of ownership as a concept. Ie. If I go to work and am no longer using my house Ie. If someone steals something and is now using it. Which why logically we have to back up and recognize that ownership while transferable exists over time. Use conflicts with the prior notion of claim, ownership claims be they arguable or enforceable center around who has the most objective link to something but also who has earlier claim trumps a later claim. Which is where you get homesteading etc. Without time taken into account and without taking into account that ownership is the enforceable or arguable right to exclusive use and control no one could have personal property. Use as a distinction between personal and private would contradict the premise. The question is do socialists for example have a consistent premise that explains reality and theory while accounting for time, engaging ""use"" and still maintaining the premise of what ownership actually is. > jungle law/incompatible Voluntarism is necessary for morality & peaceful coexistance, it is compatible with property, contract, NAP etc. > purely by virtue of them being able and willing to use much greater force Not purely, they engage in propaganda surrounding right to rule & their justification for their monopoly of force and control over property/persons. > how they're alternatives Theyre alternative because they are structured differently, voluntary & have a different justification altogether.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504152810 139658175,139706938,2017-08-31 04:18:10,">>139705492 > survival I dont believe collectivism is necessary for survival as capitalism/freedom shows that individuals can survive and create society through voluntary interaction for mutual benefit. > self-sacrifice > greater good Maybe I disagree with this because I don't believe either are necessary or moral. Maybe I just dont value this form of altruism over voluntarism & individual sovereignty + cooperation. > why aren't we one giant society? Millions/billions just illustrating a point, I think culture of collectivist us vs then mindset prevents a human society of individuals without arbitrary division. > both Hmm i get what you mean by all this but I don't feel threatened by group categories i feel threatened by individual actions that use these categories as justification to harm or control me or other individuals. Same way im against islamif extremists & the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504153090 139658175,139707071,2017-08-31 04:20:37,">Shilling for such a clear Jewish idea. kys",,Anonymous,asd.jpg,KBvh1LzfdA0iMyWudq0TwQ==,,,1504153237 139658175,139707924,2017-08-31 04:36:26,">>139706695 >If I go to work and am no longer using my house You no longer reside there? You no longer intend for that house to be where you live? >If someone steals something and is now using it. Use doesn't determine ownership. >Use conflicts with the prior notion of claim It doesn't. See above. >Use as a distinction between personal and private would contradict the premise. YOUR capitalistic premise of ownership, yes. The premise you just admitted was non-absolute, and determined instead by a set of reasoning that everyone uses to agree who has the best claim to something. >The question is do socialists for example have a consistent premise that explains reality and theory while accounting for time >while accounting for time You have this bad habit of forking off onto topics that have nothing to do with what was being discussed. >Voluntarism is necessary for morality & peaceful coexistance Prove it. >it is compatible with property, contract, NAP etc. Being free of compulsion from other people isn't. If that's what you define voluntarism as, then it isn't either. >they engage in propaganda Which is meaningless without the backing of force >& their justification for their monopoly and control Which is meaningless without the backing of force >Theyre alternative because they are structured differently, voluntary & have a different justification For them to be alternatives, the result needs to be different.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504154186 139658175,139708263,2017-08-31 04:42:13,">>139706938 >capitalism/freedom shows that individuals can survive and create society through voluntary interaction for mutual benefit Name one single instance of this. >Maybe I just dont value this form of altruism over voluntarism & individual sovereignty + cooperation. Yes. >prevents a human society of individuals without arbitrary division I'm asking what those arbitrary divisions are. Race? Nations? Cultures?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504154533 139658175,139709016,2017-08-31 04:55:01,">>139707924 So whats your premise that is consistent and engages ""use"" to split property into personal and private without contradicting the premise needed to arrive at any property particularly personal? > prove it In order to engage our faculties to use resources in a world of scarcity we need control of our faculties, we then need to be able to engage them and then keep the fruits of our labour. Going against voluntarism and thus this truth - life > liberty > property or self-ownership > use of our faculties > property - leads to theft, assault, murder, slavery & rape. Voluntarism allows voluntary interaction for mutual benefit ie. Producing & trading so we can get what we want/need. The opposite of producing is taking by force or leeching. Therefore we need to be able to uphold these individial (lets call them) rights whereas not engaging in voluntarism creates conflict, violence & immorality which cannot be the basis of a peaceful society or cooperation, theft is not cooperation, murder is not peaceful. Voluntarism as above centers around ie. self ownership which follows logically into liberty & then into property. The NAP is merely arguing to uphold these ""rights"" for lack of a better word at this time & that to go against these necessary logical steps is immoral. Thus NAP, property etc all link and coexist as logically following concepts resulting in their being compatible. > wihtout the backing of force Yes force, but we cant ignore that this institution is supported & maintained by its justifications i disagree with and support alternatives to that can achieve the same goals but in a different way. Force in the end is in the absence of argumentation but it doesnt render argumentation and justification irrelevant but the results of argumentation can prompt action. Ie. If the justification for the state fails then action is prompted to dismantle the institution and/or act in non-compliance, sidestepping or counter force.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504155301 139658175,139709261,2017-08-31 04:59:09,">>139708263 > one instance All it requires is 2 people producing and trading, the division of labour proves this cooperation. > what are they Well yes you might have a global society of individuals in this spontaneous order in the absence of these division be they arbitrary in the mind or phyically. Ie. Borders & birthplace or state are judgements in the mind which people can act on. If they didnt divide people like this in their mind then they wouldn't need to physically divide people by these measures but by individual & property. I dont know if 200 years from now of its possible but its certainly possible in at least 1 society or group of individuals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504155549 139658175,139709955,2017-08-31 05:12:48,">>139709016 Are you personally using it? If yes = personal property If no = private property >without contradicting the premise needed to arrive at any property particularly personal The point of it is to contradict your premise, which is exclusive to capitalism, and not needed to arrive at ""any"" property given the fact that property exists outside of capitalism. >Going against voluntarism and thus this truth - life > liberty > property or self-ownership > use of our faculties > property - leads to theft, assault, murder, slavery & rape. Prove it. >Voluntarism allows voluntary interaction for mutual benefit No it doesn't ""allow"" it. This is the same dishonesty as you claiming capitalism creates private property. What voluntarism does is mandate that ALL interaction in the society be voluntary. >Producing & trading so we can get what we want/need If it's through necessity, it's not voluntarism. >not engaging in voluntarism creates conflict, violence & immorality Prove. It. >NAP, property etc all link and coexist as logically following concepts resulting in their being compatible Compatible with each other? Sure. Compatible with being free of compulsion from others? No. >If the justification for the state fails then action is prompted to dismantle the institution This is true, and it wholly disproves the notion of the state having a monopoly on violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504156368 139658175,139710225,2017-08-31 05:18:40,">>139709261 Producing and trading where? Do they have their own nation? >I dont know if 200 years from now of its possible It won't be. 200 years isn't anywhere near enough time for the groups to evolve into equals. >Its certainly possible in at least 1 society or group of individuals From that point, the society is fractured and vulnerable, and begins the slow process of disintegration. During that disintegration, the opportunists sweep up all of the utilities and resources that are being abandoned by the newly-empowered individuals that are choosing to seek more immediate, personal fulfillment instead. That's how the centralization happens. That's how the society is sold to the enemy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504156720 139658175,139710283,2017-08-31 05:19:54,">>139709955 I've already explained why use doesn't work, are you just admitting that socialist notions of property dabble only on the end quarter of the logic chain and refuse to think about and engage with a premise or the logic they are contradicting? What is your basis for property and dont say use because that isnt a basis for what property is. How do you account for time also? 3rd time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504156794 139658175,139710355,2017-08-31 05:21:25,">>139710283 >What is your basis for property and dont say use because that isnt a basis for what property is How many times have I fucking said that exact thing? >How do you account for time also? I don't need to, because we're not discussing it. Answer the question. Are you personally using the thing you own?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504156885 139658175,139712245,2017-08-31 05:54:46,">>139710355 If your only basis for property is use then you condone theft. If I take your home while I'm away or steal your car im the one now using it. Congratulations you've just advocated for bandit morality, force + use. Use is celarly insufficient.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504158886 139658175,139712532,2017-08-31 05:59:27,">>139712245 >Are you personally using the thing you own? >the thing you own >YOU OWN Try again, this time without strawmanning.",,Anonymous,1503471032782.jpg,nSyG4xNzHOQLMx7sfolvbA==,US,,1504159167 139658175,139712790,2017-08-31 06:03:49,">>139712532 Its not a strawman you spastic you've literally said if you personally use it its personal and if not its private, dividing property by use contradicts what ownership is. If a socialist says for example that private property should be abolished and only personal property is legit based purely on use then the moment you stop using something it ceases to be personal property and is fair game. Use determining the legitimacy of property contradicts the very basis of what property is. Thats why I want you to walk us through your premise for property or how use can be applied to determine if property is legitimate without contradiction.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504159429 139658175,139712826,2017-08-31 06:04:33,"Alert: /pol/ is being slid like mad right now. Wikileaks mysteriously went down and pizzagate arrests close to the Clintons are happening! A retired US army colonel who was on the advisory board of a Haitian mining company along with Hillary Clintons brother Anthony Rodham was arrested for ""Bribing Haitian Officials"" yesterday: >>139706775",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504159473 139658175,139712873,2017-08-31 06:05:22,">>139712532 They call this loop youve backed yourself into cognitive dissonance I want to help you out of it and keep your ideas consistent & logical.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504159522 139658175,139713002,2017-08-31 06:07:34,">>139712790 >>139712873 >you've literally said if you personally use it its personal and if not its private Now please highlight where I said you can use someone ELSE's property to make it yours. >If a socialist says for example that private property should be abolished and only personal property is legit based purely on use then the moment you stop using something it ceases to be personal property and is fair game. Interesting. Now, back to what we were discussing >Use determining the legitimacy of property contradicts the very basis of what property is. I said, back to what we were discussing. You own a thing. Do you personally use it? Answer: ""Yes"" or ""No""",,Anonymous,1497628494469.jpg,K6LPrT7YAJt+XPN7F1uDyA==,US,,1504159654 139658175,139713443,2017-08-31 06:14:52,">>139713002 Youre avoiding the question. If you no longer use it, it ceases to exist as personal property because as you said property you dont personally use is private property. When does one become the other? Oh thats right you dont think time is relevant. So if a capitalist uses their factory once its personal property and now they can rent it out as long as they claim to intend to use it themselves again. Your logic is falling apart and youre trying to avoid it by creating a bubble despite contradiction. Listem you cant have your cake and eat it too you cant have ownership and then differentiate property based on use without contradicting ownership. Property logically follows ownership if you divide legit vs illegit property based on personal use then you make ownership itself moot. Or else explain how you can have both. I know what youre trying to do youre trying to now divide ownership and property as seperate so you can have your arbitrary distinction, this mental gymnastics cant hide the cognitive dissonance I'm sorry.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504160092 139658175,139714204,2017-08-31 06:28:46,">>139713443 >When does one become the other? When you decide to stop/start personally using it. >So if a capitalist uses their factory once its personal property and now they can rent it out as long as they claim to intend to use it themselves again. Can you give an example for how a capitalist would ""personally"" use a factory? By working at it themselves? >Your logic is falling apart Not in the slightest. You are simply running out of deflections and strawmen. >if you divide legit vs illegit property based on personal use then you make ownership itself moot. Nevermind, spoke too soon. >youre trying to now divide ownership and property as seperate so you can have your arbitrary distinction. Prove it's arbitrary, despite having a clear definition. And I told you to stop apologizing to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504160926 139658175,139714275,2017-08-31 06:29:52,">>139700241 >that image",,Anonymous,RR (4).png,T9e0ohTAGZYWFpu8fThXKA==,,,1504160992 139658175,139714547,2017-08-31 06:34:40,">>139714204 > when you decide to stop/start using it See youve just admitted it, when you stop using something its no longer personal property, therefore if I take something and use it, it is now mine because since im using it, it is personal property and since you are no longer using it, it is no longer your personal property. Ownership is the claim, property is what is being claimed it is part of the same act of claiming to own something that something is property. If someone claims to own a house (ownership claim to property) then what determines a legitimate claim? Ownership claims are based on objective link ie. I payed for it here is my receipt, i built it heres my initials and a video of me building it then marking it as mine Now to claim use as the distinction between personal (legitimate) and private (illegitimate capitalist bs) you've just contradicted what ownership is which is a claim of objective link to the thing being claimed. Current use would mean regardless of prior link in time whoever currently possesses and uses it has the legitimate claim because as we've discovered socialists say that the legitimate claim is based on who is personally using it. There is no division between ownership and property as you are saying you can own something and then declare personal use/absenteeism. This doesnt follow because the ownership claim and decision of what is a legitimate ownership claim are still focussing on the one act itself, the act of claiming ownership, the thing claimed is the property. Again the moment you declare something personal (legit) property due to use you have just declared that a legitimate ownership claim is one based on use and therefore condone theft which contradicts the entire point of ownership and property. You cant have both. If you can you need to explain the logic chain that leads to this conclusion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504161280 139658175,139715618,2017-08-31 06:48:09,">>139714547 >therefore if I take something and use it, it is now mine False >because since im using it, it is personal property and since you are no longer using it, it is no longer your personal property >it is no longer your personal property Correct, it becomes my private property. Can you explain why you using MY private property gives you ownership of it? Can you? Or will you keep talking out of your ass? >Now to claim use as the distinction between personal (legitimate) and private (illegitimate capitalist bs) Nope? You're gonna keep talking out of your ass? Okay. >Current use would mean regardless of prior link in time whoever currently possesses and uses it has the legitimate claim Can you try to stay on topic? >you can own something and then declare personal use/absenteeism Absenteeism is the opposite of personal use. Are you trying to say people would be able to commit fraud? There is no ""objective link"" As soon as the link being given to justify a claim on the property is heard and interpreted by the people judging the claim, it becomes subjective, and it is at their discretion whether it is deemed legitimate. You admit this, because you acknowledge the necessity for courts in AnCap to resolve such cases. If it were based on anything purely objective, the judgement of a third party wouldn't be needed.",,Anonymous,1491170812066.jpg,6rcF87pk8Pz7JnTAkTwUdg==,US,,1504162089 139658175,139716712,2017-08-31 07:06:32,">>139715618 All normative statements are subjective. An ownership claim itself is a normative claim that is argued through the use of objective evidence in properties case objective link is what is argued, the link is objective the normative argument and the interpretation is subjective. Just as science uses a subjective hypothesis, objective evidence and then a subjective interpretation/conclusion. > it becomes my private Okay now run with that, wow me. Is private property legitimate? What in your ideology happens to personal vs private property and what use is the distinction exactly for?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504163192 139658175,139716780,2017-08-31 07:07:43,">>139715618 A third party is needed in most cases because it helps resolve disputes, disputes are based on either force or argumentation, ownership claims are something that is argued. Very simple.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504163263 139658175,139717378,2017-08-31 07:18:50,">>139716712 >>139716780 You agree then that the objective link is inconsequential in determining the ownership of property, and that it's actually the subjective rulings of people following an established standard? Would you also agree a standard could be established for determining what counts as personal use? >Is private property legitimate? Yes. >What use is the distinction exactly for? Determining unconditional and conditional ownership. Your doctrine of private property states that all ownership is unconditional. Nobody (least of all the state) has any right to what you own, no matter what it is. Mine states that this is the case for personal property, but private property should be owned under conditions that uphold the well-being of your society. If it's something inconsequential to the society, like a niche luxury of some sort, then there's not going to really be a noticeable difference.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504163930 139658175,139717953,2017-08-31 07:27:50,">>139658175 Bumping and reporting in for Chad Nationalism.",,Anonymous,lrg day of the locker.jpg,s0gPIFJ4FOcqKuS7ASE/Gg==,SK,,1504164470 139658175,139718165,2017-08-31 07:31:31,">>139691053 Natural order is a philosophical term for the natural state of man before the state. Unless you're a brainlet you should know this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504164691 139658175,139718217,2017-08-31 07:32:24,">>139717953 Bring on the natural order, Chad nationalism is always the result!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504164744 139658175,139718408,2017-08-31 07:35:27,">>139717378 Conditional ownership decided by others is not ownership its an oxymoron, a contradiction. Ownership is exclusive or else the concept is meaningless. I agree that anything that involves humans and argumentation comes down to their actions in the scenario itself, it doesnt make it arbitrary because the objective link is exactly that objective. A receipt of purchase is objective. All arguments are normative and start with an opinion, ownership as a concept just relies on objective evidence as with any dispute or argument. Even your use of personal/private property is up to interpretation and argumentation or force. I can't believe this had to end with an oxymoron and yet anothet contradictiom it was getting so good. Also society doesn't have a wellbeing only individuals just as you agree the state is made up of individuals so is society, by choosing the preferences of one individual over another you completely abolish the concept of ownership itself its entire point and premise which is exclusive use & control over rivalrous things. Oh well we almost got there in the end. You should've mentioned your conditional ownership based on greater good bullshit ages ago.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504164927 139658175,139718517,2017-08-31 07:37:17,">>139679871 Libertarianism, on the whole, would help the working class far more than it would help the rich.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504165037 139658175,139718597,2017-08-31 07:38:27,">>139682230 >no 2d waifus OUT OUT OUT",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504165107 139658175,139718610,2017-08-31 07:38:40,ITT,,Anonymous,1503610117345.png,N4EPDLt13SWdv8Af0XkJmw==,IT,,1504165120 139658175,139719404,2017-08-31 07:51:24,">>139718408 >Ownership is exclusive or else the concept is meaningless. It is meaningless to you, an individualist, who does not subscribe to any notions about society, and so have invented your own absolutist definition of ownership... which ironically isn't even enforceable within your own ideology, let alone anyone else's. >it doesnt make it arbitrary because the objective link is exactly that objective The link isn't what decides the legitimacy of the claim to ownership. People's opinion of the link does. >society doesn't have a wellbeing That's a nonsensical claim. >the state is made up of individuals so is society And? It is MADE up of them, yes. Meaning it is something in its own right, which was created by them. The fact that it's intangible doesn't mean it has no effect on the world. >you completely abolish the concept of ownership itself Only your concept of it. >You should've mentioned your conditional ownership based on greater good bullshit ages ago. You should learn to read. I'm not going to type out the same argument over and over to every clown that jumps in the thread reciting the same empty talking points. Maybe I'll make it easier in the future and put it in memes for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504165884 139658175,139719648,2017-08-31 07:55:36,">>139718408 >>139719404 Here, I forgot I had this one.",,Anonymous,ancap tldr.png,aNnWzwXZHvxAP7wOlWykTQ==,US,,1504166136 139658175,139720173,2017-08-31 08:04:42,">>139683473 >cato >whom literally kicked out Rothbard >is a (((real libertarian organisation))) Google Property and Freedom Society or the Mises Institute.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1504166682 139658175,139720387,2017-08-31 08:08:33,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lw1MrMHQ9o,,Anonymous,We_Must_Become_the_Pitiless_Censors_of_Ourselves_(Front_Cover).png,CFPjJABZGyw+mMZMa6yfuw==,,,1504166913 139658175,139720504,2017-08-31 08:10:22,">>139692743 Nah mate, governments still have an inherent tendency to degenerate and further the process of decivilisation.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1504167022 139658175,139720543,2017-08-31 08:11:00,">>139719404 It is exclusive because if you dont have control over what you own and someone else has the final say then you dont really own it. Apply the same thing to growing food, if someone else were to have final say then theyre taking your life that you spent and the fruits of your labour. This is blatant contradiction, your concept of ownership isn't ownership if other people have a higher claim/say over what you own then you simply dont own it. > the link isn't what decides legitimacy Yes it is, because for someone else to have a higher claim of ownership they would have to prove a more objective link. You holding my wallet with my name on it and a receipt of purchase from my bank is objective, if you cant see that objective reality exists then words have no meaning, facts dont exist. Its like saying 1+1 doesnt = 2 just because it requires someone explain it through words to a retard that denies it. The complexity increases and it can become vague objective reality does exist, we can observe objectivity through consistency, logic & the scientific method.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504167060 139658175,139720665,2017-08-31 08:12:53,"WHERE WE'RE GOING WE DON'T NEED ROADS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvQ9DjJNal0",,Anonymous,ROADS.png,wEb9PGGESl6AXNy8y3xPvQ==,US,,1504167173 139658175,139720716,2017-08-31 08:13:30,">>139720665 god fucking damn it",,Anonymous,off by one.png,BsNLqWD7Tn36w9m/4AW51w==,US,,1504167210 139658175,139721244,2017-08-31 08:20:24,">>139720543 >if you dont have control over what you own and someone else has the final say then you dont really own it. That's your absolutist, unenforceable definition of ownership, yes. A less dishonest definition would recognize that there's more nuance to something being conditional than that somebody else has a ""final say"" on anything you choose to do. Or in other words, that anything you do must have their blessing. >if other people have a higher claim/say over what you own then you simply dont own it. Then do you admit in AnCap, the people who judge the legitimacy of your claims of ownership are the ones that actually own it? >they would have to prove a more objective link Translated: >they would have to convince the judges that their link is more objective None of what you're saying about objective reality existing disputes my point or defends your argument. Your system does not function through objective reality. No system does. You couldn't even program a computer to organize a society through objective reality, because we'd only be able to give it the coding and sensory tools to measure the variables WE are already aware of. Stop using absolutism as a shield from intellectual thought.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504167624 139658175,139722267,2017-08-31 08:34:42,What do you guys think of the trump's America so far. Would /yourguy/ be doing a better job as president?,,Anonymous,7_162015_paul8201.jpg,EFPxjFfXiMc7AHv+v8D8IQ==,,,1504168482 139658175,139722427,2017-08-31 08:36:45,">>139683473 >implying skilled immigration isn't good for small companies as well. Skilled immigration is a corollary of Expanded trade. That's why Trump supports it, and you don't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504168605 139658175,139722536,2017-08-31 08:38:24,">>139722267 Mixed feels about Trump, on one hand he's in the way the communist reign of terror in America, but on the other he's gonna be forced into Jew wars like the repubs always have",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504168704 139658175,139722855,2017-08-31 08:43:06,">>139720665 good luck transporting mass goods by parasail stick a big fan on 80 tons of goods and see how far you get",,Anonymous,truck.jpg,c5qcROfYh1QfvnDMHcBX7w==,US,,1504168986 139658175,139723925,2017-08-31 08:59:25,"What's the best way to pitch traditionalist/rightwing libertarianism to apolitical or leftist friends without sounding like a sociopathic, amoral darwinist?",,Anonymous,1468624417275.jpg,vxFOwisKc1XaGF7gvEVMig==,SG,,1504169965 139658175,139724783,2017-08-31 09:12:57,">>139721244 > the one who judge claims own it? No, because disputes only arise when disputes exist. If there is no dispute over something you bought you own it, if there is dispute and you win you still own it, the arbiter doesnt argue for ownership nor do they use or are responsible for the property. If they decide between two people it is not transferred to them as they have no claim, claims have to be argued. The dispute exists with people, other people may recognize it others may not. If 2 people go to an agreed third party to resolve the dispute the 3rd party still has no claim, but if you claim to own something yet you dont have the right to control its use exclusively then you dont own it. Which is why the state illegitimately imo puts itself above property. You say nuance to hide contradiction and oxymoron. A judge cant be convinced to declare that 1+1=3, else we concede truth does not exist. Just because subjecitivty exists does not mean objectivity cant enter the realms of human systems. If 2 people agree to go to an arbiter and all 3 agree that the true owner is the one that XYZ and you prove with evidence XYZ, XYZ isnt subjective only the normative claim is thats how science works, just like you saying oh fire doesnt heat water the scientist who declares the water is noe heated decides whether water is heated or not, it becomes absurd. Truth is your view of property isnt nuanced its contradictory to the very core of what ownership is, these contradictions in society need to be pointed out. ""My"" system already works to a major degree in observable reality & history, arguing objective link is what we have observed to be the concept of ownership ""claims"" just as combustion is something we observe, put a name to and then use. So to with the concept of ownership.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504170777 139658175,139724849,2017-08-31 09:14:08,">>139723925 It's a hard pitch, basically in my mind the only way is to sell them cuckbertatianism, which is basically dropping the Hardline truth and pretending Libertarianism will cater to their egalitarian delusions. From that point you can then dismantle the cucked parts, unfold the truth that egalitarianism is a farce, and not even ideal, and that people left to their own devices will form deeply hierarchical structures. It's a big journey, but it's the only way I could figure taking it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504170848 139658175,139725548,2017-08-31 09:24:36,">>139724783 >If there is dispute and you win you still own it They have a higher say over what you own, by virtue of them being the one that decides whether you own it. That means they're the ones that actually own it. The claim doesn't matter. That's literally your argument. >if you claim to own something yet you dont have the right to control its use exclusively then you dont own it Then nobody owns anything, even in AnCap. Rules are still enforced, broad as they may be, dictating how you're allowed to use anything. >You say nuance to hide contradiction and oxymoron. You're unable to prove any contradiction or oxymoron. All you've been able to do is try (and fail) to pass off your illogical definition of ownership as irrefutable fact. >XYZ isnt subjective only the normative claim is And the normative claim is what decides ownership, not XYZ. >your view of property isnt nuanced its contradictory to the very core of what ownership is >the very core of what ownership is You can recite this as many times as you want, it's not going to make your theories reality. >arguing objective link is what we have observed to be the concept of ownership ""claims"" Why are you still repeating this as if it's something in contention? Both of our concepts of ownership are based on this. You simply deny the existence of societies, and so the only objective links you recognize as valid are the ones involving individual people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504171476 139658175,139725658,2017-08-31 09:26:16,">>139722855 >he doesn't know about teleport bays",,Anonymous,1502426024817.jpg,MaZgzUjPtzCepxbBs2cjWQ==,US,,1504171576 139658175,139725766,2017-08-31 09:27:43,">>139658175 Can I still shoot communists?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504171663 139658175,139725858,2017-08-31 09:28:59,">>139725766 Are communists people?",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1504171739 139784763,139784763,2017-08-31 19:33:46,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_picarda.png,5wgXPt6u7wPa1RvYUXb/2A==,GB,,1504208026 139784763,139784885,2017-08-31 19:34:53,">>139784763 b u m p",,Anonymous,,,,,1504208093 139784763,139785218,2017-08-31 19:38:10,What do you guys think or the liberty conservative?,,Anonymous,,,IT,,1504208290 139784763,139785923,2017-08-31 19:44:42,"I need more suggestions for material to include in my Red Pill boxes that I'm going to flood the public with: > Quotes > Memes > Short Books > Pamphlets > Scary facts about the State/Banking that normies should know",,Anonymous,Red Pill.jpg,E+x9tDXIM7gXsVxW1nNBfQ==,,,1504208682 139784763,139785929,2017-08-31 19:44:45,>>139784763,,Anonymous,1503817396237.jpg,w1MEHqGDfgdbgLBPL2VJmg==,CA,,1504208685 139784763,139786051,2017-08-31 19:45:59,">>139784763 END ROAD SOCIALISM",,Anonymous,,,,,1504208759 139784763,139786410,2017-08-31 19:49:51,">>139785929 > mfw the gradualists he criticized succeeded where his revolution failed > they ended up with power over the west > he ended up with an ice pick through his skull",,Anonymous,tumblr_o3cp8ca2i31tjydheo1_500.gif,ZcgPIb5Zpu6Y5Ea/4j8NDw==,,,1504208991 139784763,139786430,2017-08-31 19:49:59,">>139784763 the free market is the ultimate redpill",,Anonymous,lrg girl.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,PT,,1504208999 139784763,139786501,2017-08-31 19:50:42,">>139786430 Based. How's your drug war going?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504209042 139784763,139786709,2017-08-31 19:52:40,">>139786501 >drug war I wasn't aware we were having a drug war",,Anonymous,open borders libertarian.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,PT,,1504209160 139784763,139786899,2017-08-31 19:54:19,">>139786709 I don't even know what to call it but how are the statistics after your unorthodox tactics in regards to drug use & legalization?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504209259 139784763,139787334,2017-08-31 19:58:33,Are patents blue pilled? How do you make money off your ideas in a completely free market?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504209513 139784763,139787398,2017-08-31 19:59:19,">>139787334 https://mises.org/library/against-intellectual-property-0",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504209559 139784763,139787718,2017-08-31 20:02:23,">>139787334 Samsung & Apple seem to be doing well despite sharing the same production cities as their chink phone immitation rivals. It's not really possible though to claim ownership of an idea that exists in the mind that really can't be stolen its sort of like the piracy is copying not theft thing.",,Anonymous,6.2.3-Shenzhen_03.jpg,I3n/REbwei66bT8RXqxpmw==,,,1504209743 139784763,139788694,2017-08-31 20:12:33,Why does /pol/ now hate free trade?,,Anonymous,1393803757661.png,MkXMQ3sgX/U1MaOApPBItQ==,,,1504210353 139784763,139789250,2017-08-31 20:17:56,">>139788694 Because Donald Trump told them one of the oldest economic fallacies in history, which is emotionally comforting to accept blindly? They have forgotten the face of their Friedman.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504210676 139900214,139900214,2017-09-01 18:49:18,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,IMG_2218.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,GB,,1504291758 139900214,139900485,2017-09-01 18:51:52,Would right-wing libertarians support Corporatism?,,Anonymous,,,,,1504291912 139900214,139901354,2017-09-01 19:00:39,>>139900485,,Anonymous,IMG_2219.jpg,CRJFXslRby4NcCO71CratQ==,GB,,1504292439 139919330,139919330,2017-09-01 22:03:51,"/lrg/ is partnered with /mg/ check them out - >>139918625 This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_nsg_cg.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,GB,,1504303431 139919330,139919610,2017-09-01 22:06:51,>>139919330,,Anonymous,Capitalism.-Saving-the-poor.-650.jpg,KVmJy0s5Cdy6ki6pcI8X7g==,,,1504303611 139919330,139920329,2017-09-01 22:15:09,"u gotta be rly desperate to try to talk about that ""ancap"" shit here",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1499905723911.jpg,U/4f4NYbyvxZcsRmIpX9KA==,BR,,1504304109 139919330,139920476,2017-09-01 22:16:53,">>139920329 Let's talk about what a 3rd world shithole nigger dump Brazil is instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504304213 139919330,139920507,2017-09-01 22:17:14,>>139920329,,Anonymous,file.png,kYFhi6mORgySoyW7gr1rcw==,GB,,1504304234 139919330,139920509,2017-09-01 22:17:16,Who here /minarchist/,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504304236 139919330,139920594,2017-09-01 22:18:07,">>139920329 >Brazil >No argument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72KbeqN7pZ4",,Anonymous,slum.jpg,oFalWUHP9AXo1m2coG+Gcg==,,,1504304287 139919330,139920850,2017-09-01 22:21:06,">>139919330 > free bread with commies :doubt:",,Anonymous,thonk_spinner.gif,JzaNaMmFn2a0Jd+aDMWZhQ==,,,1504304466 139919330,139921031,2017-09-01 22:23:03,Bamperino,,Anonymous,,,CO,,1504304583 139919330,139921563,2017-09-01 22:29:02,">>139921031 >tfw Pablo Escobar did more for his people than the government *pat*",,Anonymous,,,,,1504304942 139919330,139921795,2017-09-01 22:31:36,>>139919330,,Anonymous,1499821200981.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1504305096 139919330,139923630,2017-09-01 22:53:48,"Bump, reminder that Cantwell did nothing wrong!",,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,US,,1504306428 139919330,139923893,2017-09-01 22:57:07,">>139923630 Poor Cantwell. Statists being statists yet again!",,Anonymous,,,,,1504306627 139919330,139923948,2017-09-01 22:57:45,">>139923630 Dude I can't believe hes gonna be in there for sixty years... would it be possible for him to purchase sound recording equipment from the commissary and do a podcast from jail?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504306665 139919330,139924392,2017-09-01 23:02:56,">>139923948 He's not gonna get sixty, they're gonna get it way down in the trial. Also he's gonna do phonecalls from the shoe and get them up on his site.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504306976 139919330,139924468,2017-09-01 23:03:52,There is no welfare in natsoc go fuck yourself.,,Anonymous,,,,,1504307032 139919330,139924507,2017-09-01 23:04:25,,,Anonymous,ancap 2.png,HErORd8kQ+XrzuN26aQWuQ==,US,,1504307065 139919330,139924559,2017-09-01 23:05:11,">>139919330 never forget you're nazis too now.",,Anonymous,Untitled.png,b+17ZoSHhl71wC+o2QV9+Q==,US,,1504307111 139919330,139924563,2017-09-01 23:05:13,,,Anonymous,1503626487831.jpg,cn7zYt0hboGsOYZ1jwY0SA==,US,,1504307113 139919330,139924649,2017-09-01 23:06:17,reminder that libertarian right wingers are transhumanist scum that wouldn't care if we were all replaced by machines or designer babies as long as it helps the economy,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504307177 139919330,139924815,2017-09-01 23:08:11,">>139924649 You're retarded, I don't give a shit about muh economy. I'd rather be a human than be a rich robot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504307291 139919330,139924927,2017-09-01 23:09:33,">>139924559 Hail victory, we will not have our liberty until our cosmopolitan enemies are destroyed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504307373 139919330,139925063,2017-09-01 23:11:20,">>139919330 (((anarcho)))-Capitalism Literally antifa",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504307480 139919330,139925112,2017-09-01 23:11:58,">>139924649 Where'd you get that idea from? A good portion of us are Christian (in fact it's impossible to have a stateless society without some form of religion to keep out degeneracy), and thus strictly against transhumanism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504307518 139919330,139925188,2017-09-01 23:12:54,">>139924649 Whats wrong with that? I already spend majority of my conscious life in front of a computer, might as well become a cyborg and enhance myself with augments in 20 years.",,Anonymous,1504060766600.jpg,fjLz5WFBWIjB2Have+e+XA==,US,,1504307574 139919330,139925283,2017-09-01 23:14:08,">>139925112 because I have been in these threads before. People have literally asked me why I thought humans were so special, and why I was afraid of the evolutionary process when I point out how machines are already replacing unskilled laborers, that transhumanism is already replacing us slowly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504307648 139919330,139925417,2017-09-01 23:15:57,">>139925063 Timmy, your caretaker told you not to go on the internet it makes your brain hurt. >>139924468 >national socialism has no socialism Sure, sure. If you genuinely don't believe in welfare then you are a national capitalist or a fascist capitalist, not natsoc.",,Anonymous,1501469351935.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1504307757 139919330,139925449,2017-09-01 23:16:27,">>139925283 Those people are freaks, they shit up our threads. Tell them to fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504307787 139919330,139925598,2017-09-01 23:18:22,">>139925449 so you agree that we need some kind of socialism, because otherwise large swathes of our gene pool will die on the vine? low IQ unskilled laborers will soon be practically useless to the economy. Largest field of employment in america is currently driving, within 10 years self driving cars will replace all those jobs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504307902 139919330,139925875,2017-09-01 23:21:57,"Do I have some kind of rose colored glasses? I felt like a few years ago when I started getting interested in politics,libertairian discussions were interesting but a little no-fun-allowed. Now, the only places I can talk about these ideas are with a few friends in real life. What happened to our communities?",,Anonymous,1492475855073.jpg,GYU+A++seRQOxZ6/cRxx4g==,US,,1504308117 139919330,139925897,2017-09-01 23:22:11,">>139925283 First, transhumanism refers to augmenting the human body itself, so replacing workers with robots is not actually transhumanism. Second, transhumanism isn't inherent in any libertarian ideology (except anarcho- transhuman- capitalism which the fact it needs its own convoluted title shows that it's not an inherent part of the ideology). I'm sure there are some libertarians who support transhumanism but they certainly don't represent the whole. Personally, I think we should keep our hands off the human body and improve our tools instead (power suits, omnitools, ect.). The body is a temple, and we shouldn't destroy our temple unless we have a wall amputated, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504308131 139919330,139926085,2017-09-01 23:24:31,">>139924649 I think it would be constructive to discuss what we believe the economy actually is. Personally, I define economics as the science of assigning human time to tasks so as to maximize value. Although defining ""value"" is contentious as it is a question for morality, I feel this is not a controversial definition... and one of the advantages of free markets is that definitions of value need not be hammered down, each man voting with his money to define what is valuable to him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504308271 139919330,139926189,2017-09-01 23:25:59,"Libertarian bros, I have a few questions. I used to be a libertarian, now I'm mostly just a racist, but I'm thinking a few things through still. Regarding central planning, is there a threshold you guys would say you can use to tell whether or not central planning would work in a certain situation? For example, a football (American) team is centrally planned by the coach for the most part and things tend to run smoothly. Corporations also tend to be centrally planned, or am I wrong about that? Also, modern Scandinavian states have large degrees of central planning over certain industries, and the people there seem to enjoy the way things work if we just take their word for it ( Albert life would be better without it, I can't say either way for certain). Do you think some ethnic groups have a better ability to centrally plan at larger scales than others? I think it's almost certain that's true. What are the implications for this? Is central planning in general the enemy, or is it know-it-all technocrat types that are in over their head trying to centrally plan things that are simply too complex for top down control? If as centrally planning is necessary for a functioning society (maybe it isn't, idk) in some capacity, do you think larger modern states need to be broken up and made scaled down to population sizes where central planning is still possible? Or are large, decentralized states preferable?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504308359 139919330,139926278,2017-09-01 23:27:09,">>139925598 No, I don't agree we need socialism. Robots will not end scarcity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504308429 139919330,139926496,2017-09-01 23:29:44,">>139924392 Oh okay, does he have any chance of being released as innocent? Also whats the rules for phone calls, is it only one a day? I don't think I'll be able to survive with only 15 minutes of cantwell",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504308584 139919330,139928281,2017-09-01 23:52:18,">>139926278 This.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504309938 139919330,139928444,2017-09-01 23:54:30,">>139926496 He handed himself in, so I doubt they'll find him innocent.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504310070 139919330,139928538,2017-09-01 23:55:38,">>139928444 Yeah but that was because they said there was a warrant out for his arrest",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504310138 139919330,139928747,2017-09-01 23:58:21,">>139925598 10 years is more than enough time for the market to adjust. As the market slowly pushes people out of that market's workforce they will move into other sectors of the economy. Economic crashes are always used to scare people into voting for socialist policies, but they never work in the long run. Just ride it out and don't overreact, the market always adjusts, especially over the period of a decade. >>139926189 >now I'm mostly just a racist You can be a libertarian and a racist, senpai >a threshold for central planning I'm a libertarian-monarchist. I think that the functions of the state should be shrunk as much as possible and then privatized by the monarch. So police, military, courts, ect. would be privately owned and the tax to pay for these is only mandatory so long as you choose to live there. Everything else is owned by private individuals running private businesses with the monarch taking a small cut since they are established in his realm. >Do some ethnic group centrally plan better than others Yes. Compare some African tribe to a place like China. One is clearly better at planning a society than the other. >Is central planning necessary for a functioning society If we could somehow forever eliminate psychopaths, sociopaths, everyone with a IQ below 90, everyone outside of a single ethnic group with that ethnic group having a high trust culture with a low time preference rate then maybe. Even then I'm not sure. Humans naturally want to fight and dominate each other. You need some sort of institution to keep them from killing each other. The best solution, I think, is to foster a gun culture and keep everyone armed. That's the best way to deter crime as even the most imbecilic moron can understand why they shouldn't steal from someone with a gun. That's how much is necessary to function, it won't be just or somewhere I'd want to live but it's functional.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504310301 139919330,139928894,2017-09-02 00:00:17,,,Anonymous,Deja_Vu_smiley.jpg,HdwD69gcdY2CKDPbSD9JdA==,US,,1504310417 139919330,139928949,2017-09-02 00:00:51,post your memes because /pol/ is non-argument tier,,anime,mcintellectual.png,l7lRiEjHdw3VLjzFJVElbA==,,,1504310451 139919330,139929003,2017-09-02 00:01:30,">>139926189 As a disclaimer, I am not certain my views are strictly speaking libertarian. My belief is that every form of central planning, whether it's a voluntary or forced authority, makes rules that must be enforced through either 1) penalties to noncompliant members, or 2) arbitrary penalties to all or some members used to fund rewards for compliance. In either case, the administration of such rules is a job that costs human time, so there is an unavoidable cost (""no such thing as a free lunch""). Anarchists generally stop here and decry that all centralization is negative. I disagree; I merely state all centralization is overhead. The profitable management of people rests on the premise that not all liberties are equal, that the liberty to skip practice is not as valuable as the liberty to trust your teammates, that the liberty to murder your neighbor is not as valuable as the liberty to a reasonable expectation your neighbor will not murder you. Thus, the purpose of any form of centralization is to live by the motto ""sometimes you gotta spend liberty to make liberty"" and to make the trades that are profitable. I believe the best forms of centralization are those that lay the ground work for decentralized systems that run on the fuel of human nature and base motivations. Unlike ancaps, I do not believe the invisible hand of Adam Smith exists in nature (except to grab a rock and bash one's neighbor's skull in), but I do think the invisible hand can be guided by minimalist central planning. I identify as a libertarian because I believe additional governance where the invisible hand already sufficiently compels is redundant and wasteful. So in conclusion... When is central planning okay? When it provides more value than it costs, aka so long as it is profitable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504310490 139919330,139929027,2017-09-02 00:01:44,">>139928747 But that adjustment is usually caused BY market intervention, like with the new deal and Obama's stimulus",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504310504 139919330,139929131,2017-09-02 00:02:53,,,anime,ancap18.png,+o8ZCS9E+EziPoQbt+whrw==,,,1504310573 139919330,139929358,2017-09-02 00:05:46,,,Anonymous,Memeball17AnCapRom.png,IqL+A83xpiHEWkvAJ1R0kQ==,,,1504310746 139919330,139929449,2017-09-02 00:06:48,">>139919330 Anarcho-Capitalism is an oxymoron and fucking cancer sage",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504310808 139919330,139929474,2017-09-02 00:07:06,">>139919330 Communism is the only system with a functioning meritocacy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504310826 139919330,139929485,2017-09-02 00:07:12,">>139929449 I'm NatCap tho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504310832 139919330,139929519,2017-09-02 00:07:30,">>139929449 t. Adolf Stalin",,anime,adolf stalin.png,MZ0PyTMPYxQGzkC2OP/nkg==,,,1504310850 139919330,139929588,2017-09-02 00:08:13,">>139929358 Rome wasn't anarcho capitalist. >>139929449 enjoy your ban.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504310893 139919330,139929593,2017-09-02 00:08:15,">>139929027 The economy was already starting to recover by the time the New Deal was implemented. FDR was just trying to make a publicity stunt for his Keynesian policies so he could take all the credit.",,Anonymous,new deal graph.jpg,Sn2766VRdlq6erGI9abhNQ==,US,,1504310895 139919330,139929599,2017-09-02 00:08:21,">>139929485 Capitalism is is the status quo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504310901 139919330,139929869,2017-09-02 00:11:24,">>139929027 >>139929593 Obama's stimulus package was implemented in February of 2009. You can see that in the months prior to it the gdp was already starting to recover. Same deal as FDR, just trying to take credit for natural market forces.",,Anonymous,2000s gdp.jpg,soLnM/iWsCSQUB7FJ+ZGSw==,US,,1504311084 139919330,139930038,2017-09-02 00:13:35,">>139929519 It's Robert de Niro!",,Anonymous,robert_de_niro.jpg,TK2HZUHrtyuNEIWu/eWqYA==,,,1504311215 139919330,139930274,2017-09-02 00:16:28,">>139929593 >>139929869 Source for those graphs? Obama certainly helped the recovery",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504311388 139919330,139930311,2017-09-02 00:17:07,">>139929588 No, but its successor had many parallels with AnCapistan. ""Freie Reichsstädte"" were city states with huge amounts of independence and the whole Empire was only loosely controlled by the Emperor. HRE was GOAT.",,Anonymous,HRR_1400.png,yh+9+olYjlIUDfCteIX+9g==,DE,,1504311427 139919330,139930591,2017-09-02 00:20:53,">>139930274 http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/US_GDP_growth_1930_1945.jpg http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=15440",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504311653 139919330,139930750,2017-09-02 00:22:53,">>139930591 >blog HGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAH Oh wow just fucking about to listen to you and your argument nbut apprently you have NONE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504311773 139919330,139930998,2017-09-02 00:25:57,">>139930750 >""Bill Mitchell is a Professor in Economics and Director of the Centre of Full Employment and Equity (CofFEE), at the University of Newcastle, NSW, Australia."" Is that not a reputable enough source for your intellectual pallet?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504311957 139919330,139931077,2017-09-02 00:26:54,">>139930591 >>139930750 >>139930998 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Mitchell_(economist)",,Anonymous,the_source.png,Bb1c8vF8yG8vQTf0kMzV+A==,,,1504312014 139919330,139931284,2017-09-02 00:29:40,">>139931077 Yeah, the dude's a commie. That doesn't change the data that he's working with. I was citing the graph not the dude. His interpretation of it is shit but the actual numbers he's using for input are fine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504312180 139919330,139931307,2017-09-02 00:29:58,">>139930998 >Influced by Marxists and literally Karl himself. >Post-Keynesian economics >Activist And you think he's ""reputable enough""? Nice try, Marxist sophist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504312198 139919330,139931349,2017-09-02 00:30:23,">>139930311 Aren't they governments though? Monarchies are a form of governance",,Anonymous,,,,,1504312223 139919330,139931798,2017-09-02 00:36:07,">>139931349 AnCaps aren't ""dude fuck states and shit, nonody can tell me what to do"" anarchists. If you voluntarily associate, you create practically a mircostate. Self governance is in human nature, centralized ""representative"" nonsense that tries to put millions of people into one basket and rile over them all isn't. City states like I mentioned before aren't exactly that, but pretty close.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504312567 139919330,139931896,2017-09-02 00:37:29,">>139931307 keynesian economics is the only economics >>139931798 So tell me how a microstate is different than a superstate",,Anonymous,,,,,1504312649 139919330,139932278,2017-09-02 00:42:32,">>139931896 Like I said, a microstate forming in this manner is formed through voluntary association. If there is a demand for a community only open to white conservative people, a according microstate will form. All of the people joining the community agree that they obey the previously set rules, so even if it is an authoritarian state, they know what they signed up for beforehands. A superstate however tries to represent many people at once, people that might not agree with its rules, but since our current system prohibits an actual free market, in which people could freely associate and discriminate against other people who deem a threat to the community, many people are not represented. See the difference? It all boils down to voluntaryism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504312952 139919330,139932331,2017-09-02 00:43:10,">>139931896 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School Wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504312990 139919330,139932481,2017-09-02 00:45:06,">>139931896 >>139932331",,Anonymous,1501622602034.png,HMgum2dSsnMEefhkdAzQ8g==,DE,,1504313106 139919330,139932622,2017-09-02 00:47:03,>>139932481,,Anonymous,sensible_chuckle.gif,E5KmhrYoMBW22mLExyAkXA==,,,1504313223 139919330,139932695,2017-09-02 00:48:00,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502913433000.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,US,,1504313280 139919330,139932703,2017-09-02 00:48:07,">>139923630 What's he being charged for? >>139923948 It was more like >20 years! >""Can I have bond"" >Fuck off, 60 years!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504313287 139919330,139932858,2017-09-02 00:50:14,">>139924559 I'm going fascist until we fix this mess up. Libertarian right is the goal though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504313414 139919330,139932939,2017-09-02 00:51:12,">>139932703 >all the people calling /ourmadman/ Neonazi Jesus, the day of physical removal can't come soon enough.",,Anonymous,1494519639934.jpg,AJncu3hMuCcjzR0lglETSw==,DE,,1504313472 139919330,139933016,2017-09-02 00:52:20,">>139921563 holy shit you're right lmao So did the companies in the banana republics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504313540 139919330,139933070,2017-09-02 00:53:03,What does /lrg/ think of a night watchman state?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504313583 139919330,139933135,2017-09-02 00:54:03,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-11-03.57.25.jpg,NVmnvDpxw7V4flVyIUKzeA==,US,,1504313643 139919330,139933140,2017-09-02 00:54:06,">>139933016 More harm came from his death, than his life. The war on drugs is literally a spook.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504313646 139919330,139933242,2017-09-02 00:55:48,">>139932481 >>139932331 I apologize for my statement. But i still think keynesian economics works best",,Anonymous,,,,,1504313748 139919330,139933399,2017-09-02 00:57:53,">>139933242 >But I still think keynesian economics works best. Then what're you doing on this general?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504313873 139919330,139933406,2017-09-02 00:57:57,">>139933070 Definetely better than what we have now. But stopping there would create the risk of the state having to much power over communities that would be better kept governing themselves. Federalism is key in this situation. That way, the governing power is naturally given to smaller and smaller regions. The end game would be having small, self governed microstates. The less people involved, the better they can decide for themselves how they want to govern themselves.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504313877 139919330,139933409,2017-09-02 00:58:00,">>139933242 >But i still think keynesian economics works best Go ahead and tell us why",,Anonymous,,,,,1504313880 139919330,139933440,2017-09-02 00:58:20,">>139933070 Far better than what we have today, but still doesn't go far enough.",,Anonymous,canada.jpg,LMBklsKzh0G6FcmMpY8Z1Q==,,,1504313900 139919330,139933449,2017-09-02 00:58:28,">>139933242 It doesn't. Supporting the ""too large to fail"" companies makes it so they actually ARE too large to fail without causing a massive crash. Fiat currency also destroys value.",,anime,,,,,1504313908 139919330,139933536,2017-09-02 00:59:41,kill all c-mmunists. purge these vile red pigs,,Anonymous,36598.jpg,NPfZB65/sq0an7Blult0Yg==,US,,1504313981 139919330,139933665,2017-09-02 01:01:28,">>139931307 >>139930750 >>139931077 >139931077 Alright, chucklefucks. Here's another graph of the 1930s gdp. Source is here: https://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/usgdp/result.php Corroborated here (based off the Bureau of Economic Analysis): http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-inflation-adjusted/table",,Anonymous,new deal graph 2.jpg,sJbBWg8VcxBFdbT91BO4xw==,US,,1504314088 139919330,139933684,2017-09-02 01:01:53,What are some decent websites for libertarian discussion?,,Anonymous,1f57e7e54c94011745a4b3234560cad450f1b3445a930318f1b3a5ca65fad8f1.jpg,GkmsG75SgZgeiqgb9nOf0Q==,US,,1504314113 139919330,139933789,2017-09-02 01:03:27,">>139933665 That's better. Now one for Obama's stimulus package?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504314207 139919330,139933817,2017-09-02 01:03:51,">>139931307 >>139930750 >>139931077 >>139933665 Couldn't find a graph for gdp furing the 2008 recession, but I still have the numbers from the same source. Here: https://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/usgdp/result.php Corroborated here: http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-inflation-adjusted/table",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504314231 139919330,139933858,2017-09-02 01:04:16,">>139933406 >>139933440 In what ways is it still too much? I kow the police can be privatized and maybe tre military done away with, but I've always wondered how people would settle their disputes without some kind of mediator-- a lot of people are too stupid or stubborn to acknowledge when they're wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504314256 139919330,139933912,2017-09-02 01:05:08,">>139933399 I like libertarianism for ideas like sexual freedom, legalizing marijuana, and stuff like that, but disagree economically >>139933409 Ok. I will, I will write something up. >>139933449 Exactly! That's why you need antitrust laws.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504314308 139919330,139933922,2017-09-02 01:05:24,">>139920329 UMA",,Anonymous,,,,,1504314324 139919330,139933995,2017-09-02 01:06:25,">>139933409 Ok the reason why keynesian economics works is because when depressions hit they hit hard. People lose their jobs, people lose their homes, the free market isn't doing shit. Then the government has to step in and give these people jobs and food and clothing and get em working to stimulate the economy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504314385 139919330,139934094,2017-09-02 01:07:32,">>139933912 We're waiting with bated breath.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504314452 139919330,139934097,2017-09-02 01:07:31,">>139933858 Privatized courts. They would be relying on their reputation for people to accept them, since accepting bribes from companies to rule in their favor would be violating the NAP. We've seen private courts before too, such as the Lex Mercatoria system used in medieval Europe.",,Anonymous,brutus.jpg,AHAmaLincVRE8s5KlpxlRA==,,,1504314451 139919330,139934220,2017-09-02 01:09:10,">>139933912 >I like libertarianism for ideas like sexual freedom, legalizing marijuana, and stuff like that, but disagree economically Well, I like libertarianism for advocating the liberty of discrimination so people like you could be excluded from well functioning communities. >that's why you need anti trust laws >government regulations made something a problem so we need regulations to fix the governments mistakes How about the government not dicking around in things that aren't their business in the first place? Sounds like a good idea, doesn't it? Christ all mighty, Gary Johnson and all these social ""libertarian"" faggots have ruined a whole generation.",,Anonymous,1488661040588.jpg,LuqTAYayBFsDCSDgwkqyxw==,DE,,1504314550 139919330,139934501,2017-09-02 01:12:51,">>139934097 And how would the individual be dealt with if they didn't comply with the court's ruling? Pretty interesting, I didn't know a court could be implemented without some kind of state behind it. I will look into this Lux Mercatoria stuff.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504314771 139919330,139934553,2017-09-02 01:13:37,">>139933912 You do know that Keynesian economics and its derivatives are the reason that state backed cronyists control the economy? Regardless of antitrust laws, if your law makers are paid for, the legislation is useless. Austrian economics wouldn't allow this climate to form, certainly without a government, or without as monolithic government as he have now (minarchism).",,Anonymous,,,,,1504314817 139919330,139934584,2017-09-02 01:14:04,"The natsoc in the op image is using the wrong hand, for shame",,Anonymous,,,,,1504314844 139919330,139934610,2017-09-02 01:14:26,>>139932481,,Anonymous,25628937692856.jpg,VT3otXtjc8jKO9BDqWjH1g==,US,,1504314866 139919330,139934648,2017-09-02 01:14:53,">>139933995 We only have these depressions, when the bubble bursts, because of Keynesian economics. So no, it is cause of this misery.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504314893 139919330,139934779,2017-09-02 01:16:55,">>139933912 >>139933995 >libertarianism >sexual degeneracy >weed lmao You don't know what libertarianism is if that's why you think it's a good thing. We're all about liberty, not freedom. Often they align, but they sometimes clash like on the things you mentioned. If you don't know the difference between the two, you don't belong here. >""That's why you need anti-trust laws!"" Let me show you the back of my helicopter, anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504315015 139919330,139935046,2017-09-02 01:20:40,">>139934648 Not true. Depression is caused by Lazy faire policy (call it lazy faire since the government is too lazy to intervene) >>139934779 Dude, Dwight Eisenhower a republican would say you're dumb, a true Libertarian.",,Anonymous,occupy democrats.jpg,jNjo6CJ935sslWT3QB9JKQ==,,,1504315240 139919330,139935060,2017-09-02 01:20:52,>>139924559,,Anonymous,descriptive_polylogism.jpg,8XTCYSi5ZfI0jjzIXtogLw==,GB,,1504315252 139919330,139935098,2017-09-02 01:21:21,">>139934553 Austrian Economics what the confederacy used, they became a neo-feudal aristocracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315281 139919330,139935157,2017-09-02 01:22:16,">>139935060 I'm a market socialist and i identify as right-wing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315336 139919330,139935201,2017-09-02 01:22:50,">>139935046 >Lazy faire policy (call it lazy faire since the government is too lazy to intervene) This must be the cringiest thing I've read this week. You really do come from reddit, do you?",,Anonymous,1502929827842.jpg,EzAssCCXUWahFGSKgu6SAg==,,,1504315370 139919330,139935266,2017-09-02 01:23:37,">>139935098 >that would be a bad thing if it actually had happened People that use the term ""neofeudalist"" as an insult really don't get AnCapism.",,Anonymous,1487451735980.jpg,HXm6SlOXkB8YFGT57fVQHQ==,DE,,1504315417 139919330,139935281,2017-09-02 01:23:49,">>139935046 Are you really that fucking stupid? Why do you think we have so much inflation, dickhead? >>139935098 Oh gosh, I forget we're in the same era, with the same ideas, isn't not like we've had decades of thought since! You have such a moronically reductionist and naive view of the world.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315429 139919330,139935289,2017-09-02 01:23:52,">>139935046 >Depression is caused by Lazy faire policy Then why hasn't Keynesianism been able to prevent depressions?",,Anonymous,1024px-Mike_Mullen_with_Chilean_honor_guard_in_Santiago_3-3-09.jpg,FyTjqT4xlNxv4jZem1hRKw==,,,1504315432 139919330,139935305,2017-09-02 01:24:05,">>139935157 >socialist of any kind >right wing Pick one and only one, kid",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315445 139919330,139935345,2017-09-02 01:24:40,">>139935157 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504315480 139919330,139935418,2017-09-02 01:25:36,">>139935305 National Socialist XDDDD",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504315536 139919330,139935444,2017-09-02 01:26:01,">>139935157 eli5 market socialism I'm sympathetic to coops, they have a place in a free society, but I don't think the traditional employment model is 'exploitation'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504315561 139919330,139935473,2017-09-02 01:26:23,">>139924507 nice non sequitur",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315583 139919330,139935489,2017-09-02 01:26:46,">>139935046 >This republicunt's a better libertarian than you are!!1 I don't think you know what libertarianism is. What you think libertarianism is is the mainstream, degenerate libertarian party, right? That's not what libertarianism is. Read Mises, read Rothbard, then come back here and tell us what you learned about what libertarianism actually is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504315606 139919330,139935500,2017-09-02 01:26:51,">>139919330 This is Austin Petersen, he's running for US Senate against Claire McCaskill in Missouri. Is he /ourguy/ ornot /lrg/?",,Anonymous,Petersen for Senate 2018.jpg,vctq0njkCVjZygdF/6axaA==,,,1504315611 139919330,139935511,2017-09-02 01:26:59,">>139926189 As far as central planning goes, there is no way a central body could allocate the resources and activities of an entire country, especially one as large as the US, more efficiently than the market. Even if a central body with thousands of employees had perfectly accurate information updated every second about every resource or good in the economy, they would be unable to match the efficiency of the market. Prices are a transmitter of information that inform those participating in economic activity. Take oil prices in Texas right now for example. On account of the hurricane, there is a shortage of oil due to a hit in oil production causing prices to increase. Individuals with gasoline in other areas see that prices are higher in parts of Texas and will move their gas there to sell it at a higher price until it becomes less profitable to ship and sell the gas than it would have been to sell it where the oil already was. That point will have been achieved when demand has been satisfied and prices will have moved closer to their original levels. How would a central body know how much gasoline would be demanded in Texas and from where to ship it without unintentionally causing shortages in other areas?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504315619 139919330,139935522,2017-09-02 01:27:10,">>139935157 Helicopter bait.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315630 139919330,139935602,2017-09-02 01:28:20,">>139935418 Just wait for some mouth-breathing NatSoc to come and post ""le definition of Hitler's socialism XD""",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315700 139919330,139935621,2017-09-02 01:28:37,">>139924649 acquire education",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315717 139919330,139935639,2017-09-02 01:28:48,">>139935157 O I'm laffin",,Anonymous,1504291143732.gif,Ej9oRw+0MWdq2RAzyZRk8Q==,US,,1504315728 139919330,139935756,2017-09-02 01:30:41,">>139919330 Libertarian-right: the true face of /pol/",,Anonymous,IMG_9010.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,US,,1504315841 139919330,139935775,2017-09-02 01:30:56,">>139935500 Nah, Rand is and always will be /ourmanlet/. He and his father are too pure for this world. Petersen is too much of a Aleppo Johnson style progressive for my tastes. That's pretty common in the Libertarian party.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504315856 139919330,139935827,2017-09-02 01:31:45,">>139919330 >Libertarian right Daily reminder you cannot be a right winger who supports capitalism >>139919610 Yes, because taking people out of self-sufficiency and turning them into sweat shop wageslaves is ""freedom."" Most of the capitalist world is impoverished. You fucking capitalists are insane",,Anonymous,Political_chart.svg.png,wSYYhE93bYMyVhrOZHzLig==,US,,1504315905 139919330,139935851,2017-09-02 01:32:07,">>139935775 I was talking about /ourguy/ for US Senate in Missouri.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315927 139919330,139935869,2017-09-02 01:32:16,">>139935827 Forgot my sage",,Anonymous,df3a85df22831bd764af664aff18de0b0bf1cf93a21f6fc91ecf35c37c282d5a.png,wLd+KeN+9bjNtavpnH5x1A==,US,,1504315936 139919330,139935915,2017-09-02 01:32:51,">>139925112 >>139925112 >>139925897 >>139928747 >>139929593 >>139929869 >>139930591 >>139930998 >>139931284 >>139933665 >>139933817 >>139934779 >>139935489 >>139935639 >idcUCKus lmao",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315971 139919330,139935927,2017-09-02 01:33:02,">>139935827 Cronyism isn't capitalism, you fucking mook.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504315982 139919330,139935929,2017-09-02 01:33:06,">>139935827 >Most of the capitalist world is impoverished But most of the free market world is prosperous",,Anonymous,venez.jpg,zyavSqcIuExna8j57e0Vxw==,,,1504315986 139919330,139935971,2017-09-02 01:33:33,">if the benevopent government doesnt force people to help others at the point of a gun a free people would never volunter their time and resources to help others mean while pic related Christian community of Rugged Individuals > All power welfare state",,Anonymous,IMG_20170827_154210.jpg,Iq3RbIXrIAsG5DhyKFHuDA==,US,,1504316013 139919330,139936006,2017-09-02 01:34:03,">>139935869 We're not NatSoc, you retard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316043 139919330,139936011,2017-09-02 01:34:05,">>139935827 >Most of the capitalist world is impoverished A priori false.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504316045 139919330,139936014,2017-09-02 01:34:09,">>139935827 >what is Singapore >what is Switzerland >what is good bait Seems like you know neither of those three.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504316049 139919330,139936065,2017-09-02 01:34:44,">>139935046 Income tax rate was highest in recorded US history under Eisenhower, fuck that guy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504316084 139919330,139936123,2017-09-02 01:35:36,">>139935266 Is this a joke >work your ass off all day >lord who never worked in his life gets all the reward",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316136 139919330,139936175,2017-09-02 01:36:19,">>139925897 same answer re: da vinci's human analogy drawings? helped advance the field of medicine and probably saved more lives in the grand scheme of things. but he did some things most people would dare not do. basically desecrating the temple of the deceased. >by the end of his life he claimed that he had cut up more than 30 corpses http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20130828-leonardo-da-vinci-the-anatomist",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316179 139919330,139936176,2017-09-02 01:36:21,">>139935281 >why do you think we have inflation We don't though, idiot. >Oh gosh, I forget we're in the same era, with the same ideas, isn't not like we've had decades of thought since! sure buddy, things are totally differen't >>139935289 It has. We haven't had a depression since 1939",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316181 139919330,139936177,2017-09-02 01:36:21,">>139935775 He's the closest thing to a minarcho-capitalist we could possibly get in the Senate, though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504316181 139919330,139936196,2017-09-02 01:36:34,">>139936123 Do you even know the context of that meme, newfag?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316194 139919330,139936271,2017-09-02 01:37:25,">>139935927 >Not real capitalism Top kek every time >>139935929 >>139936011 >>139936014 Most of the world lives on dollars a day to maintain your still relatively poor and meager existence. But you can't see it so it doesn't exist.",,Anonymous,a03b5649da991d913b996738d6c9f500a51adda35918d6249a593db7f8d06a68.jpg,F3LhxTczjZZ0CDmgLXnrOQ==,US,,1504316245 139919330,139936306,2017-09-02 01:38:00,">>139936123 Fuedelism + Bitcoin + Reactionary Catholicism would be a near perfect system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504316280 139919330,139936331,2017-09-02 01:38:21,">>139936176 What do you think caused the most recent financial crisis of 2007–2008? Inflation, you fucking mongoloid. Which was due to state backed cronyism, enabled via Keynesian economics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316301 139919330,139936346,2017-09-02 01:38:35,">>139935305 Sorry im not a mouth breathing libertardian >>139935201 Reddit Kekistani >>139935444 True but i think it would be better if workers got their profits >>139935489 I read Ayn Rand, i know what libertarianism is >>139935522 You're a poor troll >>139935756 >libertarian >kill anyone who disagrees with you Worse than antifa",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316315 139919330,139936459,2017-09-02 01:40:11,">>139936123 I didn't say anything about Serfdom, hence NEOfeudalism. And from there on it is the same story as capitalism. >dude, employment is slavery lmao The feudalistic part is a private person owning land and forming a community. He has the right to let people he deems beneficial in and throw peopel out he deems harmful, as he is the property owner. The ""feudal lord"" is nothing more than a glorified landlord.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504316411 139919330,139936478,2017-09-02 01:40:28,">>139936271 >Top kek every time If there's govenment interference in the economic, it isn't by definition laissez-faire capitalism. You can't say the same thing for your communism, socialism and Marxism. >>139936346 Says the: (((market socialist))).",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316428 139919330,139936529,2017-09-02 01:41:05,">>139936346 Who the fuck said kill? Libertarian is in favor of the NAP. Helicopter rides are mostly a joke, and physical removal is just in reference to this board",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504316465 139919330,139936536,2017-09-02 01:41:10,">>139936006 you are >>139935929 Venezuela isn't >>139936014 You're a terrible troll >>139936065 Only marginal man >>139936196 Nope. I know how feudalism works though since the Lord owns everything you produce and is given that way because of birthright",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316470 139919330,139936589,2017-09-02 01:42:02,">>139936306 That would suck >>139936331 Paul Krugman said the financial crisis was caused by the designing of the Glass-Steagal act by Bill Clinton. >inflation, you ucking mongolid You are aware in recessions it's deflation that occurs, not inflation right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316522 139919330,139936635,2017-09-02 01:42:45,">>139936459 So why should we give community power to one guy who owns everything and controls what you produce.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316565 139919330,139936642,2017-09-02 01:42:52,">>139936346 >libertarian >kill anyone who disagrees with you >Worse than antifa >""extremism is bad guys, just be an enlightened centrist and do nothing about people actively taking away your rights"" Commies violate the NAP by existing. And guess what, le market socialism is objectively nothing else than communism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504316572 139919330,139936643,2017-09-02 01:42:53,">>139936478 >laissez-faire capitalism Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production. So yes, it is capitalism. Also, free market capitalism has been tried, and it failed miserably. >During Reagan's presidency, the national debt nearly tripled, and the U.S. went from being the world's largest creditor nation to the world's largest debtor nation in under eight years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics Fucking lmao",,Anonymous,libertarian_feudalism_by_valendale-d7hhmcj.jpg,v8Yx9qcbw5uQiQQ4bnkbiA==,US,,1504316573 139919330,139936686,2017-09-02 01:43:39,">>139936346 >Ayn Rand >Libertarian lol. Thats like saying Aristotle was a Christian because he influnced the Church Fathers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504316619 139919330,139936687,2017-09-02 01:43:42,">>139936176 >We haven't had a depression since 1939 And yet Keynesianism failed to get us out of that Depression. >>139936271 >Most of the world lives on dollars a day to maintain your still relatively poor and meager existence. Well they should embrace free market capitalism then.",,Anonymous,wow.gif,yH901JOQuQtgJLRqZ2emuA==,,,1504316622 139919330,139936705,2017-09-02 01:44:02,">>139936536 >Venezuela isn't Venezuela ain't free market.",,Anonymous,dwarves.gif,qRC2drhOYM1FCKCN0zqiVQ==,,,1504316642 139919330,139936713,2017-09-02 01:44:10,">>139936536 >you are Non sequitur.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316650 139919330,139936739,2017-09-02 01:44:25,">>139936642 Ok so me thinking that free markets are bad somehow violates your rights. I am in America, and somehow my thoughts violate your rights in Germany? Oh my god this is so stupid, sorry your fragile rights are being eroded by Americans THINKING that property isn't always right",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316665 139919330,139936752,2017-09-02 01:44:35,">>139936536 I wouldn't call 90% in a certain bracket of income level ""marginal"" Please, for the love of god, go back to where ever you kekistani assholes congregate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504316675 139919330,139936780,2017-09-02 01:45:00,">>139936536 >Nope. I know how feudalism works though since the Lord owns everything you produce and is given that way because of birthright Literal newfag, go back to Peddit. It's ironic, as in, the thing at the bottom is actually the least desirable and then it goes in reverse.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316700 139919330,139936794,2017-09-02 01:45:11,">>139936686 Ayn Rand is the definition of a Libertarian >>139936687 >And yet Keynesianism failed to get us out of that Depression. It did get us out. >>139936705 The CIA which runs it runs it like a free market",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316711 139919330,139936802,2017-09-02 01:45:17,">>139936589 Oh yeah, totally nothing about banks running a Ponzi scheme. You're so fucking delusional.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316717 139919330,139936816,2017-09-02 01:45:39,">>139936635 >landowner advertizes his community saying ""come here and work and I take your stuff"" >nobody comes >other landowner offers a minarchistic community in which you only pay rent and get to stay as long as you don't act like a nigger >people are interested >he gets money >people have a community >win win It's like you don't even want to understand what a fucking free market is.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504316739 139919330,139936830,2017-09-02 01:45:54,">>139936752 Only the 1% paid 90% income tax >>139936780 What do you mean at the bottom?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316754 139919330,139936844,2017-09-02 01:46:06,">>139935915 Kek, I just fucking noticed that. Christ. >>139936175 What does that have to do with anything? >>139936176 >We don't have inflation Alright, I'm convinced. You're officially the most retarded motherfucker I've ever seen on this board.",,Anonymous,value-of-a-dollar.jpg,jAWTDt9Ng6ptwQatWAWing==,US,,1504316766 139919330,139936852,2017-09-02 01:46:12,">>139936643 It is crony capitalism, not laissez-faire capitalism, but definition.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316772 139919330,139936876,2017-09-02 01:46:32,">>139936687 They have free markets than we do. They don't have regulations, minimum wage, or bullshit worker's rights for that matter. You should move to China and work in the sweatshops. Less taxes, less regulations, and you can enjoy the fruits of the free market first hand. It'll be a capitalist paradise.",,Anonymous,comvscap.jpg,KnhnMn6s3CArM1mqWCb8Pw==,US,,1504316792 139919330,139936898,2017-09-02 01:46:49,">>139936802 Yeah sure having a structure that allows banks to run ponzi schemes legally is TOTALLY good >>139936816 By that logic Walmart would have no employees since they treat their people like dirt",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316809 139919330,139936913,2017-09-02 01:47:11,">>139936346 Ayn Rand isn't a libertarian you dumb cunt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504316831 139919330,139936917,2017-09-02 01:47:15,">>139936589 >Krugman >giving an accurate assesment of the economy",,Anonymous,Paul-Krugman-Keynesians-Fail.jpg,WLBrSyMUHKz2tynK2CpC6w==,US,,1504316835 139919330,139936922,2017-09-02 01:47:20,">>139936844 >Inflation rate >Literally 1.4% I'm convinced you're mentally retarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316840 139919330,139936974,2017-09-02 01:48:01,">>139936876 Communists want to abolish families",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316881 139919330,139936981,2017-09-02 01:48:07,">>139936794 >It did get us out. 8 years of FDR's meddling didn't do jack to get us out of the Depression >The CIA which runs it runs it like a free market No they don't.",,Anonymous,corruption.jpg,Tq1gh7jh+sMg1UEeAAoKSw==,,,1504316887 139919330,139936995,2017-09-02 01:48:21,">>139936898 That's what fractional reserve banking and Keynesian economics does, buddy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316901 139919330,139936998,2017-09-02 01:48:23,">>139936346 >I think it would be better if the workers got their profits They already do. There is no such thing as stolen labour. Simply let the market decide which and how many businesses are directly owned by the workers.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504316903 139919330,139937051,2017-09-02 01:48:56,">>139936794 Ayn Rand hated libertarianism, you dope. She also hated Friedman and Rothbard, who in turn hated her and hated each other. No one person defines ""libertarianism,"" at least not one I can think of",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504316936 139919330,139937052,2017-09-02 01:48:56,">>139936913 She's the only libertarian in the 20th century you dumb moron >>139936917 Krugman made a few mistakes but generally Keynesianism is good? Do you deny WW2 cut short the depression?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316936 139919330,139937056,2017-09-02 01:49:03,">>139936739 You think free markets are bad, meaning you support regulated markets. A regulated market is the very definition of a violation of the NAP. My liberty to freely trade and keep my well earned money are taken away by the state. Hence, aggression against the state is self defense. People who are supporting this system are supporting a violation against my freedom. You are supporting an ideology that is against my best interest. In an ideal case, you'd just be removed from society, but since discrimination isn't allowed, because we have no free markets, actual violent self defense is the only option.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504316943 139919330,139937087,2017-09-02 01:49:30,">>139919330 fixed ur pic OP",,Anonymous,f69jFkH.png,CN7gBzzo1OpCu77ewQmsaw==,US,,1504316970 139919330,139937105,2017-09-02 01:49:49,">>139936589 >You are aware in recessions it's deflation that occurs, not inflation right? Are you aware it's not 2007-2008 still?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316989 139919330,139937112,2017-09-02 01:49:54,">>139936981 >8 years of FDR's meddling didn't do jack to get us out of the Depression Because Congress kept holding him back. FDR was smart with the gold seizure since the FED can only print 40% more money than gold it has. So by seizing everyones gold the FED could print more money which stimulated the economy. Then Congress prevented him from changing FED laws to print more money.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504316994 139919330,139937116,2017-09-02 01:49:57,">>139936876 >They don't have regulations Yes they do, why the fuck do you think they have sweatshops in the first place? No competition can form in the wake of massive government intervention so the only jobs are from foreign businesses.",,Anonymous,mcViet_XOEN.jpg,Cm2JDkIGpDDntFVhNN9HtQ==,,,1504316997 139919330,139937119,2017-09-02 01:50:00,>>139937087,,Anonymous,ROADS.png,wEb9PGGESl6AXNy8y3xPvQ==,US,,1504317000 139919330,139937171,2017-09-02 01:50:41,">>139936974 Capitalists want to abolish families. Birth rates across all Western capitalist countries are plummeting. People don't have time or money to raise families as wage slaves. The joys of relationships and starting a family can only be enjoyed by communists, who had better sex. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html?mcubz=0",,Anonymous,937448546b875206ab534177e3f3d7a8f5db72a6e5e611c6a498c3909f1459ca.jpg,qowa8CCK7EPq9reqjlKfhg==,US,,1504317041 139919330,139937204,2017-09-02 01:51:08,">>139937171 What if we archive that https://archive.is/kGM1A",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504317068 139919330,139937233,2017-09-02 01:51:35,">>139936898 >By that logic Walmart would have no employees since they treat their people like dirt Nobody forces them to work there, retard. Obviously there is some incentive of working there. And don't get me with ""they have no choice because of the lack of jobs"". Keynesianism and hyper regulation are the very thing causing a decline in jobs, since small and medium sized businesses are being actively harmed by these kinds of politics.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504317095 139919330,139937254,2017-09-02 01:51:47,">>139937112 >Because Congress kept holding him back Well that's the other huge problem with Keynesianism, you have to have all of the government on board with it all the time, and after you increase spending during the depressions you then have to lower spending after the depressions.",,Anonymous,1776.jpg,rU27ePiZnKxnPLyxHFocaw==,,,1504317107 139919330,139937281,2017-09-02 01:52:14,">>139937119 Fuckin glorious",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317134 139919330,139937282,2017-09-02 01:52:15,">>139936922 You do know what a rate is, right? And what a percentage is, right? And how they accumulate over time? Please give me some hope that humanity cannot produce someone as inept as you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317135 139919330,139937302,2017-09-02 01:52:35,">>139937116 No it's because local business can't compete with foreign companies. The reason companies are flocking there is because of the freer markets. You can dump all your industrial waste into the rivers. Ancap paradise. >>139937087",,Anonymous,strasserite.jpg,tgRq8os/GapUI0gcExhSCA==,US,,1504317155 139919330,139937307,2017-09-02 01:52:41,">>139937051 You're actually stupid bro. Her whole philosophy is ""do whatever you want as long as you aren't hurting anyone and LAziee faire"" >>139936998 No because corporations with rich shareholders may be making cheaper products at a better quality >>139936995 Fractional reserve banking happens in Austrian economics as well >>139937056 That's the same logic antifa uses >Fasicism is evil >racism is fasism >trump is racist >therefor anyone who supports him is racist >therefor anyone who supports trump should be hit See? And sure even if I support your rights being violated that doesn't make me a violator. If someone gets punched and you say ""Hahaha he deserved that im glad that happened"" are you a criminal as well?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317161 139919330,139937400,2017-09-02 01:54:01,">>139937112 >stimulated the economy This is incorrect, it only gives the temporary illusion of stimulation. You have a lot of learning to do. >>139937171 >Capitalists want to abolish families. This is incorrect, you're implying that a system that has no dictates has dictates. This is impossible. >>139937302 Socialism is Jewish. End yourself.",,Anonymous,keynescucks.png,ZbuRVJ61d5FsIwqwffmpyA==,US,,1504317241 139919330,139937409,2017-09-02 01:54:09,">>139937052 Again, you don't know what a libertarian is. You are literally coming to the fucking libertarian general and telling us what libertarianism is. You are not only ignorant, but proud of your ignorance. Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317249 139919330,139937458,2017-09-02 01:54:49,">>139937307 >Fractional reserve banking happens in Austrian economics as well >What is gold standard? Or better yet, cryptocurrency.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317289 139919330,139937466,2017-09-02 01:54:58,">>139937302 >No it's because local business can't compete with foreign companies That's literally what I just said. Regulations put the pressure on local businesses, thus making them unprofitable and uncompetitive with the foreign companies.",,Anonymous,hallway.jpg,zSf+ty/epkygeZPtjPZR7w==,,,1504317298 139919330,139937488,2017-09-02 01:55:17,">>139936794 >Ayn Rand >Definition of Libertarian you know nothing of Libertarianism other than pop culture and beltway spark notes. Rand Influenced the modern incarnation of Libertarianism but she herself was not a Libertarian. She was an Objectivist. She infact hated libertarianism. Look up her thoughts on the matter and why her and Rothbard had a following out. Hint google: ""The Brow of Zeus""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317317 139919330,139937498,2017-09-02 01:55:27,">>139932858 Same",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317327 139919330,139937510,2017-09-02 01:55:37,">>139937400 It doesn't directly, however indirectly it causes these issues. You can see it with your own fucking eyes for fuck sake. >Socialism is Jewish. End yourself. Capitalism is Jewish, End yourself.",,Anonymous,a754036df15aa5e6fdfa90101cd1f54e1496449f88d294ff72bb6cbb3af972e4.png,Cj6dY0mFUbiDttQZEqoXbQ==,US,,1504317337 139919330,139937511,2017-09-02 01:55:38,">>139937307 No, but if you opened a door in front of which someone stood who will punch me, that makes you an agressor. You are not only tolerating violence, you are enabling it. Like I said, if we already had AnCapism, you'd simply be denied access to private communities that see you as the vermin you truly are, but since discrimination and free association aren't allowed by daddy gubmint, you need to be removed alongside the active agressors.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504317338 139919330,139937591,2017-09-02 01:57:02,">>139937307 >No because corporations [...] may be making cheaper products at a better quality So what? Seems like a non sequitur to me. >Fractional reserve banking happens in Austrian economics too Misleading, Mises thought banks that did this would fail pretty quickly without intervention",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504317422 139919330,139937593,2017-09-02 01:57:07,">>139924563 Someone post the papa john memes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317427 139919330,139937615,2017-09-02 01:57:19,">>139937409 I think he's shitposting at this point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317439 139919330,139937620,2017-09-02 01:57:27,">>139937466 Local business can't compete with foreign business because the foreign business is wealthier and has more capital. The lack of protectionism and free markets makes the third world ripe for capitalist exploitation. This is what you want correct?",,Anonymous,corporations.jpg,GUtLX416EZ9Np0hSip/I6Q==,US,,1504317447 139919330,139937633,2017-09-02 01:57:39,Why don't we have an NRx general here on /pol/?,,Anonymous,,,,,1504317459 139919330,139937635,2017-09-02 01:57:41,">>139937510 >Forced meme Go back to /lefty/pol.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317461 139919330,139937688,2017-09-02 01:58:30,">>139937307 You're actually fucking retarded, Ayn Rand is quoted as saying that she'd have a more productive conversation with a Marxist than a Libertarian, and that they're all ""hippies of the right"" Seriously you Kekistani faggot, learn the topics and think before you speak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317510 139919330,139937695,2017-09-02 01:58:34,">>139937615 He has to be, no one is this stupid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317514 139919330,139937737,2017-09-02 01:59:18,">>139937635 >Gets BTFO >Mumbles some stupid shit under his breath Kek, ready to join our side?",,Anonymous,d0135268e4f1530c186971ffb4a259676745487ac9363186421b947f3a24dea1.png,HiPcgnSV5RGmouGcm7TzuA==,,,1504317558 139919330,139937741,2017-09-02 01:59:21,">>139936123 I thought you were a libfag until this post",,Anonymous,8105fe295fc5032328ed9a99d4a794231c0e2671358a049b000dedcafd1608c2.jpg,bL2ZDqkkqwb/K2qy2BcbxA==,US,,1504317561 139919330,139937756,2017-09-02 01:59:38,">>139937620 >Conflating cronyism and laissez faire capitalism yet again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317578 139919330,139937798,2017-09-02 02:00:23,">>139937171 How could capitalism want to abolish families? It's merely an economic system, it just distributes wealth. Do you really not differentiate between any different capitalist systems? Between places like western Europe and a free society? How absurd. FYI, the family as the foundation of society stands opposite to the state.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504317623 139919330,139937819,2017-09-02 02:00:38,">>139937105 Are you aware inflation still hasn't happened? >>139937254 Yeah that's true. I don't know what is the solution to that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317638 139919330,139937831,2017-09-02 02:00:43,">>139937737 That wasn't even in reply to me, you 'tard. I just find your painfully /lefty/pol bullshit amusing. You wonder why no one ever takes notice of elftist memes? They're forced, weak trite.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317643 139919330,139937864,2017-09-02 02:01:08,">>139937633 Make one then?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504317668 139919330,139937877,2017-09-02 02:01:21,">>139937756 >One is corruption the other is an economic system Apples to oranges bub",,Anonymous,1503939747696.png,2kA0MpS0mvv3g7twsDK3Vw==,,,1504317681 139919330,139937878,2017-09-02 02:01:22,">>139936014 the Singaporean government controls the economy to a large extent. Its really disgusting how everyone goes about saying Singapore has a free market system when at least 70 percent of land is owned or leased by the government",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1504317682 139919330,139937897,2017-09-02 02:01:37,"Its embarrassing how you guys completely have missed that you are irrelevant. Your ideology is just Judaism, with privatization. Its just as bad as marxism. No one wants individualism while all of our enemies collectivise around us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317697 139919330,139937899,2017-09-02 02:01:39,">>139937204 Doing God's work >>139937593 You mean pic related? >>139937615 Definitely, I refuse to believe anyone is this dense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317699 139919330,139937911,2017-09-02 02:01:49,"Natsoc has no welfare mate, stop falling for ancap memes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317709 139919330,139937942,2017-09-02 02:02:11,">>139937819 >Filename >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation",,Anonymous,oh_look_inflation.png,U8kO88MV7j7HJOS5WBGxaQ==,,,1504317731 139919330,139937950,2017-09-02 02:02:17,">>139937737 >Mumbles some stupid shit under his breath Do you read posts in certain ways as to help you feel like you've won an argument more and the other poster is typecast as pathetic? I'm smelling some massive autism, and it's coming from you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317737 139919330,139937960,2017-09-02 02:02:24,">>139937899 >>139937593 Forgot pic",,Anonymous,papa uranus.png,tdHfCypSRGgQO6FXondRwQ==,US,,1504317744 139919330,139937962,2017-09-02 02:02:25,">>139937620 >The lack of protectionism and free markets makes the third world ripe for capitalist exploitation. This is what you want correct? While the lack of protectionism is good, the fact that they don't have free markets is hurting them greatly. The government is able to ensure that no competition can rise against the monopolies, thus leading to the sweatshop conditions we see today.",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-08-02 at 7.28.59 PM.png,pBYU58MyIxf1OGZ5iwS9AQ==,,,1504317745 139919330,139937982,2017-09-02 02:02:41,">>139937878 Isn't only real estate run completely by the government but everything else is completely off hands? If so I'd honestly call it a fair trade compared to European standards.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504317761 139919330,139938005,2017-09-02 02:03:03,">>139937877 One is direct corrupt control, the other is about no control. They're entirely different. By the way, I'm now ignoring you, because you're clearly a troll.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317783 139919330,139938007,2017-09-02 02:03:04,">>139937878 >singapore is a free market >land is sold as fucking leases, being able to own property that you bought forever is considered a privilege Singapore is a neoliberal shithole.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317784 139919330,139938036,2017-09-02 02:03:33,">>139937897 If you're not strong or capable enough as an individual to fight the uneducated, ineffective collective than you're welcome to join them. In the mean time, get the fuck out of our way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504317813 139919330,139938057,2017-09-02 02:03:50,">>139937400 >Austrian economics is feudal slave labour >Keynesian economics is prosperity I know which one I prefer You have learning to do >>139937409 Because the idiots on this thread don't know what libertarianism is >>139937458 Fractional Reserve banking happens with all currencies, especially Gold. Think about it >Person A puts $100 in bank >Person B borrows $90 from bank >Person B Now has $90 >Person A checks account >Person A finds he still has $100 >So from person A putting $100 in a bank there is now person B with $90 >$90 was just created This happens with gold as well but instead of physical gold it's a gold note >>139937488 You know nothing about libertarianism. She hated the idea of libertarianism reasoning but objectivism is libertarianism with a little bit more reasoning behind it",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317830 139919330,139938103,2017-09-02 02:04:40,">>139937897 >he doesn't realize that freedom of association literally means tribalism",,Anonymous,1499028648233.jpg,fQOUPTubHAU5xu3YaUHXew==,DE,,1504317880 139919330,139938132,2017-09-02 02:05:08,">>139937591 >So what? Seems like a non sequitur to me. Yeah but then rich guys get all the profits rather than me and you >Misleading, Mises thought banks that did this would fail pretty quickly without intervention All banking requires a little bit of fractional reserve >>139937615 >>139937695 >>139937899 I know you guys are trolling, no one actually is a libertarian other than to troll leftists. But this is why /pol/ is known as the stupid board. Guys like you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317908 139919330,139938135,2017-09-02 02:05:11,">>139938057 >Ignores the cryptocurrency, the most prominent part of the reply, not in greentext. Are you fucking serious?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317911 139919330,139938160,2017-09-02 02:05:32,">>139937897 you want individualism",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317932 139919330,139938208,2017-09-02 02:06:04,">>139937798 Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production. However, it has many associated implications and effects that allowed Marx to create a comprehensive critique of. Things like low birth rates, immigration needed to keep the economy growing as capitalism demands, lack of relationships, and falling rate of profit. To the average dumbfuck drooling moron, it's hard to see the effects of capitalism on a society. But to geniuses like Marx, they're able to analyze the not so obvious effects capitalism while have on society. >>139937831 >Blah blah blah So are you a fellow comrade now or what?",,Anonymous,MiddleClassincome3.png,OPL1RToqbQ5BtzpOcWMWkw==,,,1504317964 139919330,139938216,2017-09-02 02:06:12,">>139937864 Retard, if people wanted it, someone would've made it already. Evidently, it doesn't exist, so there's probably not that much demand. I'm asking why, or at least gauging the general with people most likely to want to post in an /nrxg/ for opinions and interest. I'm not going to make a thread if no one gives a shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317972 139919330,139938227,2017-09-02 02:06:16,">>139938135 How would banking work with a crypto curreny without fractional reserve?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504317976 139919330,139938260,2017-09-02 02:06:50,">>139938036 Who can stand against the power of Rome? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6EIv9GULJU",,Anonymous,Roman Legions.png,CZLnOP2zZ4V3odJcOZIBMQ==,US,,1504318010 139919330,139938273,2017-09-02 02:07:07,">>139937960 No the one with the black midget and a machete.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318027 139919330,139938278,2017-09-02 02:07:13,">>139933922 DELÍCIA",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1504318033 139919330,139938310,2017-09-02 02:07:43,">>139938208 >fellow comrade Cringe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318063 139919330,139938339,2017-09-02 02:08:08,">>139938260 Rome was bad",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318088 139919330,139938341,2017-09-02 02:08:09,">>139938208 >So are you a fellow comrade now or what? No, because I don't suffer from your acute autism. >>139938227 Holy fuck, he doesn't even know what cryptocurrency is!",,Anonymous,hysterically_funny.gif,IYhu4mTCv3v3HnbEqJrzIQ==,,,1504318089 139919330,139938367,2017-09-02 02:08:27,>How to disprove capitalism with one simple trick,,Anonymous,12eebde0cf8540ad28b760cac2ffca73ac32e769717c2a0765a66ac2897ca825.jpg,4rM7m6m0710TxrkGMrdImw==,,,1504318107 139919330,139938385,2017-09-02 02:08:42,">>139938341 I bought a few dogecoins a while back",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318122 139919330,139938391,2017-09-02 02:08:46,">>139938132 >>139938208 https://mises.org/library/marxist-and-austrian-class-analysis-1",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504318126 139919330,139938395,2017-09-02 02:08:48,">>139938208 This reads like someone read the basic NatSoc understanding of free market capitalism but took out the words ""free market"" and added Marx into it because lol gommunism :DDDD",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318128 139919330,139938426,2017-09-02 02:09:26,">>139938367 fixed",,Anonymous,1495581556018.jpg,HrQeWwCKD+NXWyr+cMMk/w==,US,,1504318166 139919330,139938428,2017-09-02 02:09:27,">>139938339 Rome was powerful, that's all that matters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt0vSdbYxy0",,Anonymous,crusader.jpg,n7eQvumcQf21LHS5sALqng==,US,,1504318167 139919330,139938432,2017-09-02 02:09:29,">>139938385 So, you want me to explain cryptocurrency to you? -.-",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318169 139919330,139938440,2017-09-02 02:09:36,">>139938260 I think I know someone.",,Anonymous,1470312418809[1].jpg,CAhNjuKJ0rCEwoaeMs1puA==,DE,,1504318176 139919330,139938469,2017-09-02 02:10:03,">>139938260 >Implying Marxists possess the ability to create a unity as strong as the Roman Empire They're barely able to feed themselves",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504318203 139919330,139938479,2017-09-02 02:10:08,">>139938367 >How did you get the machines By investing large amounts of my own capital into the business. Around several hundred thousand to several million dollars on average. You know, money that communist welfare monkeys don't have.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318208 139919330,139938495,2017-09-02 02:10:21,">>139938367 hahahaha so true",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318221 139919330,139938502,2017-09-02 02:10:25,">>139938426 >Slobbing on porky's knob this hard Uh anon, behave yourself",,Anonymous,1500341894242.png,6orKlZVb8TSLTtldPnD+Kw==,,,1504318225 139919330,139938545,2017-09-02 02:11:15,">>139938367 see >>139938426",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504318275 139919330,139938559,2017-09-02 02:11:25,">>139938502 >if you repeat yourself and then shoot your enemies you win This is why no one likes commies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318285 139919330,139938624,2017-09-02 02:12:32,">>139938426 This made me laugh as well. TOP KEK >>139938428 They used slave labour, IMMORAL. You know galley slaves had to shit where they sat all the time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318352 139919330,139938643,2017-09-02 02:12:48,>>139938440,,Anonymous,thunderbirds_laugh.gif,6ZVxCR6ZRypHDRTBV5D3DA==,,,1504318368 139919330,139938657,2017-09-02 02:13:00,">>139938432 Yes >>139938469 Look up USSR",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318380 139919330,139938692,2017-09-02 02:13:27,">>139938367 >how to disprove labor theory of value in one simple trick",,Anonymous,modern art.jpg,llAXIMOXRuOizp4UmW2H4w==,,,1504318407 139919330,139938696,2017-09-02 02:13:28,">>139938479 Ok I'll play dumb too. Where did this person get this capital? Why do you even need this capital. This garbage reasoning only exists inside your tiny box of capitalism. You are literally unable to think outside your small box. >>139938559",,Anonymous,humannature2.png,ExkZmav9xA1gZ2DhPwewnA==,,,1504318408 139919330,139938722,2017-09-02 02:13:49,">>139938657 I will, if you reply to this pwning: >>139937942",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318429 139919330,139938730,2017-09-02 02:13:58,">>139919330 HAPPENING >>139937895 >>139937895 >>139937895",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504318438 139919330,139938784,2017-09-02 02:14:40,">>139938696 From an investor, from inheritance money, from working as an employee in a previous company and then leaving/being fired, etc. Must be hard for marxist scum to understand what working for pay means.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318480 139919330,139938786,2017-09-02 02:14:42,">>139938132 >no one is actually a Libertarian I dont usually like to box myself in but it be fair to describe me as a Trad Catholic ancap from the Old South or Paleolibertarian for brevity sake :^)",,Anonymous,110ronPaul.jpg,GQNdopIViARAuNxPSLgvMg==,US,,1504318482 139919330,139938792,2017-09-02 02:14:46,">>139938502 >present bullshit argument >someone tries to call you out >repeat bullshit argument but this time kill them and claim you were oppressed >repeat until your retarded system collapses again Commie logic.",,Anonymous,but its okay because it wasn't real socialism so you try againg but your system collapses but.gif,m7DPtSpreCo2Mnx4n7VUWg==,US,,1504318486 139919330,139938863,2017-09-02 02:15:49,">>139938696 >Going to kill human nature. Communists are confirmed as utterly retarded.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318549 139919330,139938870,2017-09-02 02:15:52,">>139938624 >They used slave labour, IMMORAL What's immoral is losing. What's moral is winning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1t1p_Av45E",,Anonymous,Mayan civilization.jpg,GlrKBy4tCMp/JSLwsboS8g==,US,,1504318552 139919330,139938872,2017-09-02 02:15:53,Daily reminder.,,Anonymous,1489200381209.png,tq1mDmBSLQYEBP9Lyv1jvA==,DE,,1504318553 139919330,139939038,2017-09-02 02:18:26,">>139938872 >Doesn't know the difference between exchange value and use value",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318706 139919330,139939143,2017-09-02 02:20:03,">>139938872 >GIF related. >>139939038 >Doesn't know the difference between state capitalism and communism.",,Anonymous,laugh.gif,089TApM2ibV8f6LjGpz7xg==,,,1504318803 139919330,139939145,2017-09-02 02:20:04,>>139939038,,Anonymous,1488666350583.jpg,wnGepDhdjV3xEeHWOXkOIQ==,DE,,1504318804 139919330,139939228,2017-09-02 02:21:13,">>139938870 war doesn't determine who is right only who is left >>139938872 market socialism allows supply and demand",,Anonymous,,,,,1504318873 139919330,139939241,2017-09-02 02:21:31,>>139924563,,Anonymous,ancap trial by combat.jpg,EK3zNI5+z4cSFg8cdPqhUA==,,,1504318891 139919330,139939308,2017-09-02 02:22:30,>>139939145,,Anonymous,still_laughing.gif,0ME1UbWN/ccQ6Y8dxBZLOA==,,,1504318950 139919330,139939363,2017-09-02 02:23:23,">>139939228 >market socialism allows supply and demand Only if you have something left to supply!",,Anonymous,hilariously_pathetic.jpg,n/A+3H51iiGxF6547vtqFg==,,,1504319003 139919330,139939378,2017-09-02 02:23:34,">>139939228 >supply and demand aren't heavily manipulated by the slightest intervention Nice meme.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504319014 139919330,139939415,2017-09-02 02:23:58,">>139939145 Nice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319038 139919330,139939480,2017-09-02 02:24:55,">>139939228 War determines the survivors, from the garbage that doesn't deserve to live The question in this world is whether or not you are strong enough to survive, this is the natural order of things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSoItWtL7Pk",,Anonymous,02ce0133974f9256dc547d5e9ab15425.jpg,PXPFumXO2RZkrrtWQcKyfA==,US,,1504319095 139919330,139939511,2017-09-02 02:25:23,"LIB-CON WOKE GANG hang faggots and smoke meth fuck yes i love politics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504319123 139919330,139939555,2017-09-02 02:26:01,">>139938426 All the extra fees could be paid by the state if we removed Porky. Capitalists FUCK OFF",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319161 139919330,139939641,2017-09-02 02:27:16,">>139939555 This ""the state solves all the problems"" mentality is why lolbergtards don't like statists. Please stop giving every other statist ever a bad name.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319236 139919330,139939642,2017-09-02 02:27:16,">>139933140 I'm not an ancap, but even I know that Drugs are degenerate, but if there's a demand for it, you can't stop it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504319236 139919330,139939745,2017-09-02 02:29:01,">>139939641 The thing about statism is that it all goes to shit after you have a shit leader. If after Hitler, you had Merkel with the same power, wwyd?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504319341 139919330,139939761,2017-09-02 02:29:14,">>139939555 The NEP was capitalism, in fact, the while thing was state capitalism. >>139939642 Not to mention the resulting power struggle from his death and the backlash. If they'd just left him alone, Colombians would've benefited from his protection and charity.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319354 139919330,139939788,2017-09-02 02:29:41,"Isn't meritocracy a non sequitur? Every form of government claims to install people based on their ability "" unlike the other forms of government! """,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504319381 139919330,139939839,2017-09-02 02:30:39,">>139939745 The leader is beholden to the volk to not be executed at the slightest sign of incompetence. The trick is that the military and armed forces do not serve the state, it serves the volk. As such, any statesman is just as liable as any member of the volk to be arrested and executed for crime.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319439 139919330,139939857,2017-09-02 02:30:54,">>139939480 >AnCaps want market regulated Darwinism while NatSocs want state regulated Darwinism Really gets the ol thinking box up and running.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504319454 139919330,139939914,2017-09-02 02:31:46,">>139939745 >>139939839 To put it simply, if the new leader is incompetent he is either removed from power or executed. Problem solved.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319506 139919330,139939918,2017-09-02 02:31:49,">>139939857 >market regulated Darwinism Is fair.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319509 139919330,139939936,2017-09-02 02:32:04,">>139939378 It is corrected woth intervention",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319524 139919330,139939963,2017-09-02 02:32:36,">>139939761 He had so much money he had to bury it lmao. To play Devil's advocate, what about the cartel wars? Sometimes, innocents got caught up in the violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504319556 139919330,139939965,2017-09-02 02:32:36,">>139939936 I'm waiting for that reply.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319556 139919330,139939966,2017-09-02 02:32:38,">>139939480 The survivors are garbage though",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319558 139919330,139939980,2017-09-02 02:32:53,">>139939839 The Führer has enough power to form a secret police, though. What you want is a minarchic system. A constitutional monarchy would probably better fit your tastes m8.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504319573 139919330,139940070,2017-09-02 02:34:06,">>139939963 They did. But without and obvious leader, those wars that would occur anyway, would only be even more violent and potentially last longer without a mitigating and calming force.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319646 139919330,139940126,2017-09-02 02:35:07,">>139939936 >supply and demand need correction Even nicer meme. >>139939918 Never said anything else. All I was trying to say was that NatSocs need to stop being tsundere and start reading Hoppe. I'm sure most fascists on here would have an epiphany about what AnCaps really are.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504319707 139919330,139940148,2017-09-02 02:35:28,">>139939857 There needs to be some way to separate the wheat from the chaff. Ever wonder why men these days look so pitiful and weak? Short, soft, pudgy, weak-voiced, small-chested men are proliferating everywhere. It's leading to the total disintegration of the social order. When's the last time you met a man with a cleft chin? Or a truly deep, booming voice? It's becoming rarer and rarer. Throughout history, only about 40% of males have passed on their genes, but 80% of females have. Men are supposed to die in large numbers on the battlefield, or on the job. In most of these great European wars, roughly 50% of the young male population was slaughtered. The 7 years war, the 100 years war, the 30 years war, the Napoleonic wars, WW1 and WW2.....etc. This is the natural bloodletting that creates nations, societies, heroes, and legends. This is who we are, and what we are supposed to be. We are warriors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYkCi_0XQj0",,Anonymous,8c5e27a61c891ec57f3c0e871d5c437a.jpg,jF4nphyJHsV/PA6HHVxDeg==,US,,1504319728 139919330,139940152,2017-09-02 02:35:32,My country is a meritocracy,,Anonymous,,,SG,,1504319732 139919330,139940158,2017-09-02 02:35:38,">>139939914 >implying incompetent leaders wouldn't protect themselves with the military, and have the power to do so Wouldn't a leader with as much power as they want implement Martial law to protect themselves?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504319738 139919330,139940164,2017-09-02 02:35:42,">>139939980 Constitutions do not work. Fascism is meant to be monarchy revamped. Of course, what exactly can this secret police do if they have the entire police force and military on their asses? I highly doubt they can keep their leader alive for long just based off of the disparity between the numbers alone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319742 139919330,139940172,2017-09-02 02:35:49,">>139940126 No, no, I'm agreeing with you. I was just adding to your point.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319749 139919330,139940202,2017-09-02 02:36:15,">>139919330 Just a reminder that all authoritarians and collectivists will be killed.",,Anonymous,1503882011403.png,Wn3qPwZ1llzuwwvsIDp+HA==,,,1504319775 139919330,139940207,2017-09-02 02:36:21,"Have fun playing outside kids! Come on in when you are ready to do your homework, and eat your dinner, and be responsible adults, and grow up. This will be waiting for you.",,Anonymous,fasces.png,AoQ5XTqfqErKZ2zJtSeUog==,,,1504319781 139919330,139940242,2017-09-02 02:36:49,">>139940158 Martial law is something that the state puts into effect, not the leader. And again, the military serves and protects the leader so long as he serves and protects the volk. If he fails then they will fail their jobs too and remove him promptly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504319809 139919330,139940262,2017-09-02 02:37:13,">>139940126 Care to share Hans? What are AnCaps really?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504319833 139919330,139940363,2017-09-02 02:38:51,">>139940202 By who? You have no army, you have no order, you have no community. No structure, who is going to train an army when all you care about is your own wellbeing? You will get killed and raped by a nigger militia the first day of an-cap LARP life. An-cap will last maybe 3 days before Anarchy, followed by either communism, or fascism. You know, a real adult grown up real life form of government that has actually happened in reality.",,Anonymous,Fascist symbols 1.png,KB6MiNQwU46m3TjV/3Bg4g==,,,1504319931 139919330,139940373,2017-09-02 02:38:57,">>139940070 Guess you're right. The reason why the drug market is so violent is because it's illegal. In a free market of drugs, violence would be minimized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504319937 139919330,139940448,2017-09-02 02:40:19,">>139940373 The state is to blame, more than the merchant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320019 139919330,139940460,2017-09-02 02:40:37,">>139940164 Constitutions are a other word for a list of things a ruler isn't able to do. Fascism doesn't have that, the government has much power and a bi gbureaucratic system. A monarchy has only one person with power but that power isn't much. He gets checked by a constitution, that sets a framework for what powers he has. Think of it as a night watchman state with a Monacrh at top instead of a President. Add to that a heavily armed populace and an optional parliament and you have what you just described, only without the risk of the ruler having the power to actually harm the nation. The monarch keeps the parliament in check, the parliament keeps the monarch in check and the people force both of them to act in the nation's best interest by posing an threat themselves.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504320037 139919330,139940478,2017-09-02 02:40:57,">>139940363 >m-muh private military Sad thing about the lofty dream of individualism, is that it always gets conquered by a united peoples.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320057 139919330,139940493,2017-09-02 02:41:13,">>139940126 NATSOC is shit. I prefer INGSOC",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320073 139919330,139940527,2017-09-02 02:41:48,">>139938696 Here, have a porky meme",,Anonymous,1497855237990.png,22h6eT5mvvtOjuh1EohcEA==,,,1504320108 139919330,139940576,2017-09-02 02:42:39,">>139940493 How about that inflation, eh? ;)",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320159 139919330,139940614,2017-09-02 02:43:07,">>139940460 But there is no predefined set of things that the ruler isn't able to do. In fact he isn't able to do anything if it doesn't fall under a specific goal, that which is aiding the volk and furthering their existence as a superior race. And a monarch on the top of the fascist president, what's to stop a Mussolini or Franco situation from occurring?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320187 139919330,139940620,2017-09-02 02:43:12,">>139940148 Except it's random who dies in war. And besides how would the population sustain itself?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320192 139919330,139940628,2017-09-02 02:43:20,">>139938426 top kek",,Anonymous,1465751764493-2.png,L8t1uUSjsBrqafgH3dvdRA==,US,,1504320200 139919330,139940638,2017-09-02 02:43:25,">>139940262 Tribalists that want to use the liberty that Ancapistan offers to form gated communities and city states without niggers, lefties and other degenerates. Most AnCaps are more in line with monarchists than with Gary Johnon style ""libertarians"" the media likes to showcase.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504320205 139919330,139940659,2017-09-02 02:43:50,">>139940242 Who decides what the leader does is good? The people. Who has absolute control over the people? The leader. There is nothing stopping the leader to implement martial law if the military decides that it's more profitable to serve the leader. You have lots of faith in the goodness of the military Anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504320230 139919330,139940735,2017-09-02 02:44:54,">>139940659 The leader doesn't have absolute control over the people. That's where your argument falls short.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320294 139919330,139940760,2017-09-02 02:45:25,">>139940152 How? It's capitalist",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320325 139919330,139940772,2017-09-02 02:45:38,">>139940493 >he stll tries to shitpost",,Anonymous,1502258479197.gif,75YNb2QhflU0TnIIrv9Vdw==,DE,,1504320338 139919330,139940818,2017-09-02 02:46:26,">>139940620 It's random which animals survive as well. Except it isn't, there is a prejudice for those who are the strongest, the most intelligent, the most clever.....etc. And that is what drives evolution I agree it's more random now that we are fighting with guns and bombs instead of swords and shields. Such a tragedy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA1hZoBLrdY",,Anonymous,1497591802590.jpg,eileFG8QeMTLAosVXCChCQ==,US,,1504320386 139919330,139940836,2017-09-02 02:46:43,">>139940760 Ok, that shitpost was actually funny. Nobody can be this retarded, not even a kekistani.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504320403 139919330,139940855,2017-09-02 02:47:08,">>139940207 >being fascist in 2017 Grow the fuck up >>139940363 Grow up. Try a grown up form of government like democracy",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320428 139919330,139940908,2017-09-02 02:47:56,">>139940735 The leader can ""influence"" the people with guns/militia The bad outweigh the good. Not every leader is going to be a Pinochet. Lots of them are going to be Stalins.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504320476 139919330,139940979,2017-09-02 02:49:08,">>139940855 >grown-up version of government >democracy Flag checks out. You're a retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504320548 139919330,139941000,2017-09-02 02:49:26,">>139940855 >being a coward in 2017 Grow the fuck up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320566 139919330,139941045,2017-09-02 02:50:06,">>139940908 The militia isn't beholden to the leader though. He cannot order his armed forces to open fire on the volk because he cannot order them to do anything that does not have the endgoal of aiding the volk.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320606 139919330,139941257,2017-09-02 02:53:46,">>139940772 This is a troll thread so idgaf",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320826 139919330,139941265,2017-09-02 02:53:52,">>139941045 So the leader doesn't have complete control?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504320832 139919330,139941313,2017-09-02 02:54:31,">>139940772 I know your trolling but you actually make pol look stupid",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320871 139919330,139941359,2017-09-02 02:55:21,">>139941000 Grow up >>139940979 Try being a grown up",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320921 139919330,139941376,2017-09-02 02:55:37,">>139941313 You do the same for reddit :)",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320937 139919330,139941400,2017-09-02 02:55:59,">>139941376 Nice trolling",,Anonymous,,,,,1504320959 139919330,139941446,2017-09-02 02:56:44,">>139941359 You still seem awfully inflated, I thought we were in deflation? Oh wait, I was right! Just admit it already.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321004 139919330,139941451,2017-09-02 02:56:49,">>139941359 >tells other people to grow >is a kekistani cringelord",,Anonymous,1492476647352.jpg,7P63VxHh/oR2qmu8DkpKcA==,,,1504321009 139919330,139941470,2017-09-02 02:57:07,">>139941045 Aiding the Volk can be something in the mind of the Führer that in reality is harmful, however. Hitler invading Poland turned out to be og´f harm to the Volk. Wouldn't it be beneficial to set some basic rules that the people see as general interest like possesion of guns or an isolationistic foreign policy?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504321027 139919330,139941492,2017-09-02 02:57:31,">>139941359 >hurr durr my system is so retarded I can't defend it t. actual retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504321051 139919330,139941538,2017-09-02 02:58:05,">>139941451 >says grow up >sneak flag >literally SPLC defined as a hate group",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321085 139919330,139941563,2017-09-02 02:58:30,">>139941492 Anyonr can defend democracy. It's rule by the consented",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321110 139919330,139941594,2017-09-02 02:59:01,"This thread most likely will be posted on r_thedonald or r/4chan, put on your most photogenic face for our dear visitor >>139941400 . :)",,Anonymous,1498531392425.png,a+F05+GhwT9X9o2Y35BG2A==,DE,,1504321141 139919330,139941680,2017-09-02 03:00:26,">>139941563 Can't defend yourself against my points though. You just run. Cower bitchboy!",,Anonymous,1489541254711.gif,Fdi5XqMaJ90/7C7KXkNJuQ==,,,1504321226 139919330,139941711,2017-09-02 03:00:59,">>139941538 >Gadsden flag defined as a hate flag >implying I care Also >implying I told anyone to grow up Great post, memetard",,Anonymous,1493995743938.jpg,qQAs9V1ipHFb5PHN+7oQNA==,,,1504321259 139919330,139941758,2017-09-02 03:01:52,">>139941594 >mfw",,Anonymous,1496412756605.jpg,vnp0U+A2UI8UjS4zq/k3/w==,,,1504321312 139919330,139941800,2017-09-02 03:02:38,">>139941680 Because you are trolling",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321358 139919330,139941803,2017-09-02 03:02:44,">>139941538 Are you retarded? >>139941446 Hey, I have a question about how would Ancapistan work, How would law work? And contract making as there is no one that can punish you if you break one?, with enough money wouldn't they just buy their own personal army of thugs to fuck over people? And then again, how would that even work if people would keep breaking contracts as human beings are pieces of shit? Also, Hobbes or Rousseau?",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1504321364 139919330,139941854,2017-09-02 03:03:33,">>139941800 Oh yeah, me proving you wrong about inflation, really trolling! Fucking faggot.",,Anonymous,1489541421312.png,pSCU/RcimqxHX2KTg0XXJg==,,,1504321413 139919330,139941876,2017-09-02 03:04:00,">>139941758 >Gotta make a move to a town that's right for me",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504321440 139919330,139941918,2017-09-02 03:04:35,">>139941803 Private military. Militas. The right to defend yourself, family and property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321475 139919330,139941968,2017-09-02 03:05:25,">>139941265 No, he never has and he never will. >>139941470 Indeed, the Fuhrer is imperfect. But what isn't? And invading Poland had the goal of saving the massacred volk in Danzig as well as reclaiming the stolen territory of the polish corridor, alas it had horrible consequences but the intentions were good. Even so, national socialism does allow gun possession and absolutely follows isolationism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321525 139919330,139942021,2017-09-02 03:06:15,">>139941563 No, you're just retarded. Like actually retarded. Kys unironicly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504321575 139919330,139942054,2017-09-02 03:06:46,">>139941854 You were wrong tho since inflation is at 1% thanks to trump getting the fed to hike interest rates",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321606 139919330,139942131,2017-09-02 03:08:37,">>139941968 Good. No one person should have all the power. However, give a man an inch and he will take a yard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504321717 139919330,139942138,2017-09-02 03:08:42,">>139942054 >The United States is the only country that exists. You really are retarded, aren't you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321722 139919330,139942154,2017-09-02 03:09:20,">>139941968 >Even so, national socialism does allow gun possession and absolutely follows isolationism. Exactly, and as you said, nobody is perfect. You need to set a framework on what a leader can and cannot do, even if it would be in his grasp pf power. That's what a constitution is for. Sure, he could act against it, but it would be an obvious act against the interest of the people. A constitution makes it easier for the leader to act in the interest of the people, since he has a guideline. If he despite that follows through with such an act, the people have a justification to take arms against him.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504321760 139919330,139942191,2017-09-02 03:10:06,">>139941918 >>139941918 So mercenaries? You know that one of the reasons Rome fell is because of the lack of loyalty? They started to contract nordic mercenaries, after a few years they noticed that they could just steal everything, So you have a militia to stop the other militia?, what keeps this militia to just turning on you ? I am ok with that right to defend yourself, family and property, but militias just seem to be inefficient.",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1504321806 139919330,139942317,2017-09-02 03:11:32,">>139942138 Well inflation in othe countries is due to monetary policy",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321892 139919330,139942345,2017-09-02 03:12:03,">>139942191 Nothing stops you from forming an official police force within a community. Don't forget, AnCap isn't stateless, it just hasn't a centralized state.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504321923 139919330,139942376,2017-09-02 03:12:39,">>139942317 You're full of shit. You lost, fact.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504321959 139919330,139942398,2017-09-02 03:12:56,">>139937982 Not only that. You can find many laws and regulations to boost, regulate and control business. Seriously, the largest investment company in Singapore is run by the government, and I can guarantee you'll find heavy intervention and government programs in many areas in the economy",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1504321976 139919330,139942433,2017-09-02 03:13:30,">>139942054 You said, and I quote ""there is none idiot"" referring to inflation",,Anonymous,IMG_3670.png,Kfe0E6GADwb24nOuV3VPCw==,,,1504322010 139919330,139942474,2017-09-02 03:14:21,">>139942345 So you have a bunch of nations inside of one giant landmass What's stopping one militia from taking over all the land and installing whatever government they want?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504322061 139919330,139942475,2017-09-02 03:14:21,">>139938007 Yeah, its all done in the name of ""pragmatism"" and ""meritocracy""",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1504322061 139919330,139942530,2017-09-02 03:15:08,">>139942154 Fair enough, I do see a use in having some sort of guideline that any fascist leader can follow. After all it does make detecting faulty leaders easier too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504322108 139919330,139942605,2017-09-02 03:16:37,">>139942474 What's stopping nations right now from taking over countries like Liechtenstein? Diplomacy and human decency don't simply disappear over night. Also, you'd have to think in long terms: What profit could be made and would it outweigh the losses that would follow such an obvious aggressive action.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504322197 139919330,139942682,2017-09-02 03:18:04,">>139938208 every government under your system either collapsed, subsisted under some form of undercurrent of capitalism lmao, the problems you described are also gonna occur on your side too",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1504322284 139919330,139942713,2017-09-02 03:18:30,">>139942475 And that's ignoring how the country's being turned into a zionist puppet state too. All it is meant to do is be a jewish foothole in the predominantly muslim SEA area. Fucking disgusting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504322310 139919330,139942926,2017-09-02 03:22:19,">>139942605 Seems fair enough. Don't count on human decency too much though, it's not really there. Also, wouldn't it be better if we had a small but unified state?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504322539 139919330,139942933,2017-09-02 03:22:31,">>139935869 >saging >posting a picture newfags...so many newfags",,Anonymous,,,,,1504322551 139919330,139943077,2017-09-02 03:25:22,">>139942376 You lost.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504322722 139919330,139943095,2017-09-02 03:25:34,">>139942926 The question is: How small is small enough. It needs to be small enough for people to actually feel represented. If it's so big that you have people wanting other rules, you'll have the same crap as we have now. People of same origins tend to think pretty alike, so ethnic and cultural homogenity could fix that issue to some degree.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504322734 139919330,139943111,2017-09-02 03:25:46,">>139942433 Yeah in America since 1999",,Anonymous,,,,,1504322746 139919330,139943159,2017-09-02 03:26:37,">>139943077 >Proving myself right. >Another person proves me right. I don't think you know the meaning of the lost. Because I win.",,Anonymous,1489540892803.jpg,S4INlwWqJaIdK8jbphwnpQ==,,,1504322797 139919330,139943265,2017-09-02 03:28:51,">>139943095 It needs to be small enough to not infringe on the rights of its citizens, but large enough to provide basic services, such as military, police, etc. that private businesses can't do as well. You're right about the culture and ethnicity part as well.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504322931 139919330,139943298,2017-09-02 03:29:19,">>139943077 no u",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504322959 139953987,139953987,2017-09-02 06:40:01,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1484429674775[1].png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,GB,,1504334401 139953987,139954120,2017-09-02 06:42:26,">>139953987 1st for Corporate™ Border™ Patrol™",,Anonymous,Hoppe on immigration.png,dk3LwwtOZZejkGzWSxzH9Q==,,,1504334546 139953987,139954445,2017-09-02 06:49:07,">>139954120 >There can be shipments (immigrants) without willing domestic recipients >without willing domestic recipients >willing domestic recipients So Hoppe truly does value collectivist consent over individualist private property rights? I'm starting to like this guy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504334947 139953987,139954486,2017-09-02 06:49:50,bump,,Anonymous,1503763832154.png,nhQyQe7zUNDs1S/o/oezHQ==,,,1504334990 139953987,139954757,2017-09-02 06:54:38,">people still seriously callthemselves libertarians It's finished, all libertarianism is academic deadwood. Come over to propertarianism.",,Anonymous,1483072941946.jpg,A6aKichhXEZBj+D6x1vwyQ==,IE,,1504335278 139953987,139957485,2017-09-02 07:40:15,Bump,,Anonymous,6ad04db8a4b2b916b5d88aa23ddc3d4c--cute-fox-nick-wilde.jpg,vd17DxyoLcLtI1cE9sluOA==,,,1504338015 139953987,139960543,2017-09-02 08:32:27,bumpp,,Anonymous,,,,,1504341147 140003286,140003286,2017-09-02 16:24:29,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM THREAD THEME: >Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FREE CHRIS CANTWELL,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1504369469 140003286,140003436,2017-09-02 16:25:48,"True right Libertarianism is the Final solution, and dude weed LGBTQA lolbergtardians are a cancer that must be removed if we are to ever acheive a Libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1504369548 140003286,140003586,2017-09-02 16:27:14,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1504369634 140003286,140003739,2017-09-02 16:28:48,">>140003286 FREE CHRIS CANTWELL!!!",,Anonymous,chrissexmachinecantwell.jpg,kAjUfH7ClO30tD18SD8Iyg==,,,1504369728 140003286,140003810,2017-09-02 16:29:35,"Fuck commies, my dude",,Anonymous,ancap-andy.png,xORZqJpsafjbHT4rgruKbg==,,,1504369775 140003286,140003888,2017-09-02 16:30:20,">>140003739 FREE THAT MOTHERFUCKER. I NEED MY RADICAL AGENDA NOW!",,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,,,1504369820 140003286,140003985,2017-09-02 16:31:12,">>140003888 Dave will commit suicide, his blood is on your hands you goddamn commies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504369872 140003286,140004025,2017-09-02 16:31:33,,,Anonymous,RR (10).png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,,,1504369893 140003286,140004099,2017-09-02 16:32:15,">>140003985 KEK, where will he get his relationship advise from now?",,Anonymous,RR (1).png,nDQnAEKfvcs23XB8Dk8iOQ==,,,1504369935 140003286,140004215,2017-09-02 16:33:23,">>140004099 He will go insane, probably going out on a killing spree.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504370003 140003286,140004707,2017-09-02 16:38:05,,,Anonymous,RR (8).png,T8Fu9b39NuW1a2bnJPzpKw==,,,1504370285 140003286,140004794,2017-09-02 16:38:55,who here esoteric liber/aryan/ism?,,Anonymous,1503968197241.jpg,MVXV4zdG+GqYxzqcS0g/Bw==,,,1504370335 140003286,140004845,2017-09-02 16:39:24,Are there any news on cantwell?,,Anonymous,ancap gf3.jpg,dU++1BNoglLTjwYFi4GA0g==,,,1504370364 140003286,140005389,2017-09-02 16:45:02,">>140004845 looking at his site, no update. last I heard of him was a couple days ago calling from jail.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504370702 140003286,140005485,2017-09-02 16:45:56,">>140005389 I saw many threads here saying he got 60 years, but they seemed like shit so..",,Anonymous,,,,,1504370756 140003286,140005589,2017-09-02 16:47:08,">>140005485 thats what he's going up against, but I highly doubt he'll actually get anywhere close to 60 after trials and all.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504370828 140003286,140005683,2017-09-02 16:47:55,What do libertarians think of Mexican immigrants?,,Anonymous,,,MX,,1504370875 140003286,140005733,2017-09-02 16:48:28,Can any of you explain to me the elicopter meme?,,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504370908 140003286,140005856,2017-09-02 16:49:35,">>140005733 augusto pinochet sentence many marxist to die by helicopter removal, we like that.",,Anonymous,1484826946021.jpg,PmS7j3wt8GTKrzyMRdX4Qw==,,,1504370975 140003286,140005997,2017-09-02 16:51:05,">>140005589 I hope americans stand up against this, because all he did was defending himself while having radical views, if this makes an example you will get the same shit like we have in europe, where you can get up to 5 years jsut for raising your right arm.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504371065 140003286,140006166,2017-09-02 16:52:53,">>140005856 And the fisical remobal meme? And the image of a draw guy that anons post when someone talks about ayn rand?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504371173 140003286,140006364,2017-09-02 16:54:39,"Is she crazy? I got that view of her when I look at her facial expression",,Anonymous,julie 2.jpg,XZdLSwAqpIm4oTpuXaO7+g==,,,1504371279 140003286,140006538,2017-09-02 16:56:36,,,Anonymous,,,,,1504371396 140003286,140006606,2017-09-02 16:57:17,">>140003286 1. is libertarianism and anarchism the same thing? 2. would a democracy with the athenian model, meaning property rights + not having someone take away your profit and a system where landowners decide the law, be somewhat acceptable?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504371437 140003286,140006618,2017-09-02 16:57:24,">>140005997 I'll do my part. >>140006364 yeah she's nuts, but shes an /lrg/ qt",,Anonymous,,,,,1504371444 140003286,140006660,2017-09-02 16:57:45,">>140006364 She is a Jew, of course she is crazy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504371465 140003286,140006869,2017-09-02 16:59:58,">>140006606 1. Anarcho-Capitalism is a form of libertarianism, but not all libertarianism is anarcho-capitalism 2. Democracy is generally an infringement on property rights, being that you could simply vote away ones property rights, but its possible to enter a democratic community voluntarily via contract.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504371598 140003286,140006940,2017-09-02 17:00:45,">>140006618 She looks exactly like an antifa girl back from school, who was batshit insane. She is qt, but I am sure she will crazy in a relationship and tries to kill you at some point.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504371645 140003286,140007046,2017-09-02 17:01:56,">>140006940 I don't doubt it.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,,,1504371716 140003286,140007329,2017-09-02 17:04:40,">>140006538 And Ron Paul is alibertarian? A few years ago there were s lot of Ron Paul memes, why? Doas pol like Ron Paul?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504371880 140003286,140007472,2017-09-02 17:06:00,">>140007329 Ron Paul is a Paleo-Libertarian and an AnCap. and yes /pol/ like Ron Paul.",,Anonymous,RonPaul2.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,,,1504371960 140003286,140007520,2017-09-02 17:06:29,">>140006869 1.Whats the difference? what are the best arguments for government pets. i keep telling a private market economy is more efficient and taxes are a heavy burden on working class people, but they dont listen",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504371989 140003286,140007660,2017-09-02 17:07:54,">>140004215 BLUE SKIES IN POUGHKEEPSIE, SOME OF YOU ARE OKAY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504372074 140003286,140007703,2017-09-02 17:08:20,">>140007520 You are fighting for a lost cause in germany, everyone there is a socialist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504372100 140003286,140007963,2017-09-02 17:10:50,,,Anonymous,snake-menefrego.jpg,2S90fYmJ+5xd4w+1umxaIw==,,,1504372250 140003286,140008109,2017-09-02 17:12:12,">>140007703 i know. not a german though plan to make lot of money asap and move out of here as soon as possible",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504372332 140003286,140008205,2017-09-02 17:13:07,">>140007520 the difference of being forced into a democratic society and and voluntarily choosing to join such a society? Consent. I would say as far as normalfags go the ""against me"" argument by stefan molymemes is a killer argument againts light liberal socialist types https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_1nbahAts&t=4520s learn this argument, know how to apply it to your debates.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504372387 140003286,140008319,2017-09-02 17:14:13,">>140007963 kek are you the fashy goy that always posts here? you should join us in the discord some time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504372453 140003286,140008401,2017-09-02 17:15:05,">>140007472 Ahh ok I will ask you aquestion that I never get answered: Can a libertarian work inabank or financial business, or it is agains the libertarian ideology?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504372505 140003286,140008425,2017-09-02 17:15:18,">>140008319 yes and /lrg/ is my greatest ally",,Anonymous,,,,,1504372518 140003286,140008541,2017-09-02 17:16:28,">>140008205 Stefan molyneux is a libertarian too?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504372588 140003286,140008577,2017-09-02 17:16:52,">>140008401 sure he can, a libertarian can be the president if he wants. I don't see why It would be a conflict to work in a bank.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504372612 140003286,140008694,2017-09-02 17:17:55,">>140008205 im talking about libertarianism and anarchy ill take a look at it. thx many helicopters to you",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504372675 140003286,140008698,2017-09-02 17:18:00,">>140008541 Yes, Stefan is an AnCap, and has produced libertarian content for many many years.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504372680 140003286,140008730,2017-09-02 17:18:19,">>140008577 Cool",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504372699 140003286,140008825,2017-09-02 17:19:08,">>140008694 >many helicopters to you Lol",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504372748 140003286,140008978,2017-09-02 17:20:38,">>140008694 ""libertarianism"" is more of a categorization of many philosophies that ancap, classical liberalism and the like happen to fall under. however it is common for ancaps to refer to themselves simply as libertarians.",,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,8G1fm9Y0/xnxyU54Hl3mBA==,,,1504372838 140003286,140009037,2017-09-02 17:21:14,"How can we keep developed world levels of social order and peace (police inforcement, hospitals, firefighting and shit) in a libertarian world?",,Anonymous,1489128023397.gif,sBkDTNCIgN76aNBAXDCSqw==,,,1504372874 140003286,140009083,2017-09-02 17:21:44,">>140008541 Stefan is what is necessary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504372904 140003286,140009300,2017-09-02 17:23:42,">>140009037 police enforcement, hospitals, firefighting and shit will exist in a libertarian social order. they'll just be voluntary, and paid for directly by the consumers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373022 140003286,140009370,2017-09-02 17:24:20,"another question. Do you think the free market has failed when it comes to food production, as all modern food is shitty and mass produced?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504373060 140003286,140009576,2017-09-02 17:26:16,">>140008698 >>140009083 Explain to me the classical Ron Poul meme : Its happening ! Where it comes from?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504373176 140003286,140009598,2017-09-02 17:26:30,">>140003436 >Kek imagine being this deluded. It is you ancap retards that are getting currently "" physically removed"" -Google is removing your sexist asses -Twitter is removing your bigoted asses -YouTube is removing your racist asses Sillicon valley is becoming a covenant of modern progressivism which naturally means no ""freeze peach"" for dissidents according to Hoppean ethics.",,Anonymous,styx.jpg,XWP2oU7k6JksIYdBbgiMLg==,SI,,1504373190 140003286,140009632,2017-09-02 17:26:52,">>140009370 do you mean fast food and shit? Real food is plenty available. its just that the retards bred by our mass democratic states choose to eat unhealthy because in many places they arent economically responsible for thier health.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373212 140003286,140009674,2017-09-02 17:27:24,">>140009598 yes, we live in a communist controlled global democracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373244 140003286,140009704,2017-09-02 17:27:52,">>140008425 fuggin based.",,Anonymous,HSM_LRG.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,,,1504373272 140003286,140009721,2017-09-02 17:28:03,"And other question: Contamination from business? How do we fix this ?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504373283 140003286,140009746,2017-09-02 17:28:23,">>140009576 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DkApM3WkEw",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373303 140003286,140009804,2017-09-02 17:29:03,">>140009721 state collusion with corporations? Or are you talking about pollution?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373343 140003286,140009811,2017-09-02 17:29:12,">>140009370 Compared to older times when food was heavily salted and bland, and more often times diseased, I would say progress has been made. As always, the only way to make food perfect is to make it yourself from scratch. Also, the only people who used to eat comparably well to us would have been the rich for most of human history. It's all just a matter of how much time and money you are willing to spend on health. Fast food today: happy meal, fast food for 19th century and earlier: hard tack, gruel, leathery salted meat, etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373352 140003286,140009879,2017-09-02 17:29:53,">>140009598 Are libertarians racist bigot and sexists?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504373393 140003286,140009926,2017-09-02 17:30:22,">>140009037 Clear defined private property is the only way to secure social peace and prevent class warfare, which leads to natural formed hierarchies and authority which comes with it.",,Anonymous,fashy gf..jpg,Nv4ffZ/5I97y1i79YcGo/g==,,,1504373422 140003286,140010026,2017-09-02 17:31:25,">>140009576 I'm sorry that was the wrong clip, imma try to find it for you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373485 140003286,140010056,2017-09-02 17:31:42,">>140009804 Im talking about polution, how do you see this problem?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504373502 140003286,140010087,2017-09-02 17:32:01,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1503734980496.jpg,+WKrSHvy2iGK+6AEq6JeEg==,NL,,1504373521 140003286,140010088,2017-09-02 17:32:03,">>140009879 I sure am. but not all are.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373523 140003286,140010126,2017-09-02 17:32:21,">>140010026 It made me laugh",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504373541 140003286,140010157,2017-09-02 17:32:42,">>140010087 >(((you))) >not a dipshit lurk more fag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373562 140003286,140010191,2017-09-02 17:32:59,">>140003286 We also need to purge the unironic fascists. Dopey skinhead fags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504373579 140003286,140010348,2017-09-02 17:34:39,">>140009879 They are, but they shill for private property rights as well - and modern business conglomerates are mostly run by SJW's themselves, which naturally means that there is no such thing as ""free speech"" infringement when a company fires you for being a racist asshole.",,Anonymous,just.jpg,ORDe9t61MH8U4TTZjcO+mw==,SI,,1504373679 140003286,140010428,2017-09-02 17:35:12,">>140010191 If you mean all those edgy teens, who never bothered to get into it and only try to live up to an wikipedia article about fascism they just googled, I am in for it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373712 140003286,140010658,2017-09-02 17:37:25,">>140010056 In a true libertarian society there is no such thing as public property, all land is owned by individuals. and person who wants to dispose of waste has only two options 1. throw waste on your own property, destroying its value and your ability to profit from selling your property 2. making an agreement with another property owner to dispose of your waste on his land (like a trash removal/landfill service) 2 and a half. you could throw your trash on his property without is consent or paying him and then he'll get the copper on your ass. its quite disincentivized to pollute in a libertarian society. its not impossilbe but not as likely as you might think.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373845 140003286,140010749,2017-09-02 17:38:08,">>140010157 >liberal queer pretending to be rightwing hoe exactly does your brain work, i just dont get it",,Anonymous,1495072564275.png,ZO/3SqJ7eyyuZ+cCXv8yhg==,NL,,1504373888 140003286,140010855,2017-09-02 17:39:11,">>140010749 You sound like one of those cryptosocialists of the new right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373951 140003286,140010916,2017-09-02 17:39:44,">>140010348 of course when it fires you for being gay or trans that's a different story.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504373984 140003286,140010955,2017-09-02 17:40:09,">>140010126 im sorry I couldn't find the original video. basically Ron says ""Its happening"" in a talk at the Mises Institute, /pol/ latched onto it and turned it into a sort of WW3 warning meme.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504374009 140003286,140011083,2017-09-02 17:41:29,">>140010658 Do you think if ""real"" capitalism ever occurs property owners will be white anglo-saxon heterosexoal white males of ""good character"" - loo around you faggot. When google fired James Damore the ancap community was chimping out like they forgotten the fact that google is a private business and that the little faggot just got ""physically removed"". Thankfully they are not throwing you off helicopters...yet.",,Anonymous,fatso.jpg,5GpvugtKZda41sIsF9ryzw==,SI,,1504374089 140003286,140011186,2017-09-02 17:42:23,">>140010855 >cryptosocialists im a corporatist",,Anonymous,1494353962129.jpg,8prYvO9tC8LcK7yY0+L+FQ==,NL,,1504374143 140003286,140011228,2017-09-02 17:42:52,">>140010749 to be right wing means to embrace Hierarchy, Natural Order, and any sort of individualism/kinship/family values/nationalism. I am for all of that shit.",,Anonymous,ORDER.png,6rFDv6/FV6AEc0JJOOJR+w==,,,1504374172 140003286,140011259,2017-09-02 17:43:14,">>140011186 yea, cryptosocialist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504374194 140003286,140011371,2017-09-02 17:44:21,">>140011083 our state is run by communist democrats, they collude with corporations to push their leftist agenda. The problem is the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504374261 140003286,140011473,2017-09-02 17:45:25,"Anarchy will never work, small government is needed.",,Anonymous,You can do it.jpg,Bj6S0zfG+IpZRBIlJ8DqRg==,,,1504374325 140003286,140011475,2017-09-02 17:45:26,">>140009576 When Paul was still running in the primaries people were hyping up that he could actually pull off a win. It was partly a joke because we all knew he didn't stand a chance. So every time the polls showed Paul in the lead or some news about delegate counts would show up /pol/ would get a bunch of ""it's happening"" spam. Later on it just got repurposed for any happening.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504374326 140003286,140011548,2017-09-02 17:46:05,">>140011473 Why won't it work?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504374365 140003286,140011568,2017-09-02 17:46:16,">>140011473 >small government is needed. until they open the borders and force immigration on you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504374376 140003286,140011732,2017-09-02 17:47:46,">>140011473 theres no such thing as a limited state, they will always use their power to expand the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504374466 140003286,140011867,2017-09-02 17:49:07,">>140011228 Are you legitly tarded? Capitalism when it gained steam and started to erode the feudal order, was viciously attacked by aristocrats for destroying the ""natural order"" of things. The traditionalist found it unbearable that the free market equalized him with a complete pleb who just got lucky in selling shit. That's why the french aristocracy despised the merchant bourgeoisie who were gaining political power through being good at business.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504374547 140003286,140012157,2017-09-02 17:51:50,">>140010088 Im not >>140010348 Really? The mayority of them? It is sad >>140010955 Lol I will try to find the video >>140010658 Ohhh come on, correct me if I understood it wrong, so you dont give a flying fuck about business poluting the fucking world, like the chinesse who live in a dirty full of smog city ?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504374710 140003286,140012162,2017-09-02 17:51:53,">>140011867 Capitalism is simply another way to organize a social order. people still have to compete to form a hierarchy. your opinions on economics are irrelevent to your right-wing status anyway. you can be a leftist capitalist (like bryan caplan) or a right wing capitalist (Like Hans Hoppe)",,Anonymous,,,,,1504374713 140003286,140012193,2017-09-02 17:52:10,">>140011228 nationalism requires self sacrifice, to embrace both indovidualism and nationalism is not coherent. The right is built on tradition, individualism does not care about tradition. At the end of the day anarchy is revolutionary, and therefore leftist. >>140011259 if you say so",,Anonymous,salutoromano.jpg,CCc7FpKSm9EwjbKLKxZl0Q==,NL,,1504374730 140003286,140012308,2017-09-02 17:53:19,">>140003286 Can I shoot communists?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504374799 140003286,140012338,2017-09-02 17:53:38,">>140012157 >so you dont give a flying fuck about business poluting the fucking world I care plenty. I even consider myself a type of enviormentalist. maybe you misunderstood. have a listen to Stefan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eks_KVzERc",,Anonymous,,,,,1504374818 140003286,140012404,2017-09-02 17:54:19,">>140011732 >>140011548 Under anarchy, people are less free than they are with laws and a state to enforce them. The productive will find themselves shackled to their land, constantly forced to fight to protect life and property. You would think most people are good and will get along, but there is plenty of evidence that historically, even ""ordinary men"" can turn into monsters when put into abnormal circumstances. Under the best case scenario, people will get fed up and form miniature police states in small communities to keep the thugs and thieves in line, while everyone else sacrifices their freedom. Under the worst case scenario, the mob wins and everyone starves as no one can produce any food with out their farms getting zerg rushed by hungry people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504374859 140003286,140012410,2017-09-02 17:54:22,>Tfw lean more friedman than rothbard,,Anonymous,french.png,p4Gim/fDKzk7LXntlUL2tg==,US,,1504374862 140003286,140012519,2017-09-02 17:55:21,">>140011732 >>140011473 You are both libertarians but dont agree? The snake anon is less ""radical""? I dont like racism, but im not a retard",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504374921 140003286,140012547,2017-09-02 17:55:38,">>140012193 >individual and nation are incompatible yeah, you're a socialist. kek.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504374938 140003286,140012607,2017-09-02 17:56:18,">>140012308 Sure. especially if they're on your property.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1504374978 140003286,140012642,2017-09-02 17:56:43,">>140012410 I'm sorry to hear that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504375003 140003286,140012720,2017-09-02 17:57:26,would you an open border libertarian?,,Anonymous,pho.jpg,jMCRsCqUVW8DUTB+xjI9qQ==,,,1504375046 140003286,140012729,2017-09-02 17:57:34,">>140012162 >people still have to compete to form a hierarchy. compete only in terms of material possessions >your opinions on economics are irrelevent to your right-wing status anyway. you arent fooling anyone >>140012547 yes indeed, any chance of you presenting an argument?",,Anonymous,moses.jpg,DnI23WChr3JBIEPgH9vKpQ==,NL,,1504375054 140003286,140012747,2017-09-02 17:57:46,">>140012338 Oh yes maybe I misunderstood you, I will watch that video,thanks",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504375066 140003286,140012810,2017-09-02 17:58:18,">>140012519 yes we aren't exactly of the same philosophy. He's a minarchist, and im an anarchist.. both are considered a part of libertarianism. dont get worked up over the racism. I'm not going around shooting blacks or anything like that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504375098 140003286,140012862,2017-09-02 17:58:47,"Reminder that Americans could have had European-style comfy, walkable, space-efficient cities with cheap mass transit and low commute times if we had only privatized the roads.",,Anonymous,Amsterdam_alley.jpg,z09N5JJuwgiBYJ5/LDAu+Q==,US,,1504375127 140003286,140012991,2017-09-02 18:00:00,">>140012810 Hhahaha ok anon >He's a minarchist, and im an anarchist.. both are considered a part of libertarianism. Ohh then I will research both",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504375200 140003286,140013162,2017-09-02 18:01:39,">>140012729 more than competeing on the terms of material possessions, you need to compete for followers, Influence! just like aristocracy. you're a type of ""right wing socialist"" its very apparent and thats why im dismissing your bants.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504375299 140003286,140013173,2017-09-02 18:01:45,">>140003739 HAIL CANTWELL",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504375305 140003286,140013182,2017-09-02 18:01:49,">>140012729 An Individual which is aware of itself and responsible for it's own action is required to form a society in which those ideals can prosper. the generated spritual value of this group will reinspire new individuals after they enter the realm of the society. the symbiosis of the individual and the group is essentielle for society to raise it's level and therefore will become able to form a civilisation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504375309 140003286,140013237,2017-09-02 18:02:19,"Today is Hans-Hermann Hoppe's birthday, /lrg/. Say something nice about him.",,Anonymous,1498559784626.png,H/7dEyKGrf0y2s18q6AVfA==,,,1504375339 140003286,140013280,2017-09-02 18:02:44,">>140012519 >>140012810 There's literally absolutely nothing wrong with discrimination by private individuals. Discrimination doesn't break the NAP. Discrimination cannot remotely be considered aggression. We should all be against unmotivated racist aggression, but only because it's unmotivated aggression, not because it's racially motivated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504375364 140003286,140013356,2017-09-02 18:03:25,">>140013237 >Say something nice about him. I love you, so to speak.",,Anonymous,hoppe democracy.jpg,IjRVVkmwB6DUR+Xf//TTgA==,,,1504375405 140003286,140013386,2017-09-02 18:03:44,">>140011475 Lol",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504375424 140003286,140013478,2017-09-02 18:04:40,">>140013237 HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SO TO SPEAK!",,Anonymous,,,,,1504375480 140003286,140013479,2017-09-02 18:04:39,">>140003286 Gas the taxes, helicopter ride now!",,Anonymous,39e3720.png,DWifb5UNKKbJ02w0HsTY7w==,LT,,1504375479 140003286,140013598,2017-09-02 18:05:59,I can get down with this thread.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504375559 140003286,140013613,2017-09-02 18:06:06,">>140012991 be careful about researching ""anarchy"" classical anarchy is Marxist Communism, we here are Anarcho-Capitalists, the polar opposite ideology",,Anonymous,,,,,1504375566 140003286,140013630,2017-09-02 18:06:14,">>140013237 A somewhat unintuitively underrated libertarian thinker, grossly underrated. Brilliant mind, so I send out a psychic 'Happy Birthday'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504375574 140003286,140013723,2017-09-02 18:07:05,Join Anti-Communist Action,,Anonymous,IMG_1629.png,vfl7fkn3kqfMIetnwyaPtg==,US,,1504375625 140003286,140014131,2017-09-02 18:11:37,">>140012720 No, she probably has some STD from fucking communists. >>140013173 >>140003739 1433 >>140013237 22888",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504375897 140003286,140014237,2017-09-02 18:12:29,">>140013162 >followers and influence which you gain through through marketing and such debasing your countrymen to consumerist drones. There is nothing ""noble"" about your aristocracy, its pure obsession with the present >right wing socialism third position, i never claimed to be either right or left wing >>140013182 the individual is just a reflection of its environment. To shape this environment is the most important. Will you base it on national unity, class cooperation and self sacrifice or capitalistic hedonism.",,Anonymous,1465885116830.jpg,v/LLiX7pcZsxU/R1ereOdA==,NL,,1504375949 140003286,140014315,2017-09-02 18:13:09,">>140012410 Explain, friedman is soft and rothbard is hardcore ?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504375989 140003286,140014546,2017-09-02 18:15:43,">>140014237 >consumerist KEK you are SO a socialist. I am laffin at you m8. virtue signal about how much more noble you are I don't care. If it makes you feel any better I agree with your pic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504376143 140003286,140014727,2017-09-02 18:17:35,">>140014546 >>If it makes you feel any better I agree with your pic. you clearly do not understand it",,Anonymous,codreanu.jpg,TTgmBW9beGIFESYBHPF/7Q==,NL,,1504376255 140003286,140014804,2017-09-02 18:18:26,"Additional reminder that urban sprawl, suburbia, and McMansions, and long commute times are direct consequences of road socialism. The countryside should be reserved for homesteaders and people who don't need to go to the city constantly. >>140014315 I would certainly pick Milton Friedman for my debate team, but he seemed to be fine with the existence of government and monetary policy, whereas Rothbard was against both. David Friedman is way better than his father. He's an anarcho-capitalist of the Chicago school who has a number of disagreements with Rothbard. I actually agree with several of these criticisms. Rothbard was only a mortal.",,Anonymous,suburbs.jpg,Xzmvd3J6oKTwl7MdFypv7Q==,US,,1504376306 140003286,140014847,2017-09-02 18:18:50,">>140013613 Good point anon",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504376330 140003286,140014903,2017-09-02 18:19:23,">>140014315 Rothbard is the original Anarcho-Capitalist, and part of the ""austrain school"" (ancap economics) Friedman is a minarchist of some sort and part of the chicago school. I personally think friedman fucked up libertarianism in america with his economic theories, however it should be noted that the ""chicago boys"" (some of friedmans chicago school pals) assisted agusto pinochet (le helicopter man) in his economic reforms",,Anonymous,,,,,1504376363 140003286,140014949,2017-09-02 18:19:44,">>140006606 You know Athenian democracy killed Socrates, thus violating the NAP which would make it unacceptable.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504376384 140003286,140014979,2017-09-02 18:20:01,">>140014727 you clearly do not understand me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504376401 140003286,140015025,2017-09-02 18:20:33,">>140014315 Freeman was libertarian-lite. He opposed most government but still wanted a central bank and government monopoly on defense and justice. He was, in other words, a socialist. Rothbard was full on ancap and consistently applied his philosophy to every topic. Read their Wikipedia pages and you'll see Rothbard was an even bigger intellectual giant. Also he was an historian, cultural critic and political theorist, not just an economist. The man was perhaps the biggest genius of the 20th century in terms of contributions to economics and political philosophy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504376433 140003286,140015097,2017-09-02 18:21:12,Hoppeans are not real libertarians.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504376472 140003286,140015110,2017-09-02 18:21:24,"Anyone up for a chat? http://poldare.com",,Anonymous,greenie.png,AWhPl1tjdr53J18IQYiD/w==,,,1504376484 140003286,140015160,2017-09-02 18:21:59,">>140014804 David is Friedman's son who became drug addict?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504376519 140003286,140015170,2017-09-02 18:22:05,">>140008109 We can always use more libertarians here.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504376525 140003286,140015211,2017-09-02 18:22:33,">>140015025 You're delusional. I study economics in college. Rothbard isn't in any of the indices in any of my textbooks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504376553 140003286,140015264,2017-09-02 18:23:05,>>140015097,,Anonymous,DontBait.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,,,1504376585 140003286,140015302,2017-09-02 18:23:28,">>140014979 >you clearly do not understand me. that tends to happen when a person's thought arent coherent",,Anonymous,A00077559.jpg,I25G0Nw9lX8WfQrUg4ZmxQ==,NL,,1504376608 140003286,140015385,2017-09-02 18:24:24,">>140015302 lurk a bit more faggot, you'll understand if you stick around.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504376664 140003286,140015389,2017-09-02 18:24:26,">>140015264 You people support white nationalists like Christopher Cantwell who threaten and initiate violence other people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504376666 140003286,140015394,2017-09-02 18:24:29,">>140014237 >To shape this environment is the most important. And who shapes the enviromont, strong Individuals. what you see as consumerism are jsut the effects of keynes. no worth saving and think about what you spend your capital for, because keynesianism only rewards consumption and teaches to a high time preference, which makes you an consumeristic subhuman. conservative libertarians are less materialistic than any other right wing movement, they think twice before buying some useless shit and are able to think in more than one generation. they are aristocrats of the soul. and in a free market degenerate consume behaviour would lead to the extinct of those who practise it, because there is no state who redristibutes wealth if those degenerates spend all there money on alcohol and whores.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504376669 140003286,140015422,2017-09-02 18:24:43,">>140008694 Same as socialism and communism but in the opposite direction and at least feasible.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504376683 140003286,140015529,2017-09-02 18:25:46,">>140015389 you need to listen to cantwell. hell even in his vice interview he explicitly says he does not initiate violence other people. do you know anything about him other than him being an anarcho-capitalist/white nationalist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504376746 140003286,140015542,2017-09-02 18:25:53,">>140015211 Austrian economics isn't recognized by mainstream economists because it rejects empiricism for formulating conclusions and is anti-central banking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504376753 140003286,140015552,2017-09-02 18:26:00,">>140015211 Gee I wonder who funds your schools.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504376760 140003286,140015622,2017-09-02 18:26:39,">>140003286 How do I into mercantilism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504376799 140003286,140015637,2017-09-02 18:26:51,">>140014903 >>140015025 Will read both",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504376811 140003286,140015752,2017-09-02 18:28:00,">>140012410 Which Friedman? Milton or David D.?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504376880 140003286,140015792,2017-09-02 18:28:25,">>140009037 Insurances, private contractors, voluntary cooperatives, associations, personal interest, charities, auxiliary services, well equipped and trained ""citizenry"" . Not in any specific order.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504376905 140003286,140015808,2017-09-02 18:28:37,">>140015622 Mercantilism is garbage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504376917 140003286,140015823,2017-09-02 18:28:47,">>140014546 I don't think you understand what consumerism is. You certainly don't have to be socialist to accept the existence of consumerism. A consumerist economy is one that exhibits artificially high time preference. Consumerism is when people aren't stingy enough and buy loads of entertainment and eat fast food every day. This happens because of inflation. If your dollar is worth less tomorrow, you'll tend to buy stuff today that you wouldn't have bought otherwise, especially short-term oriented things. We have generations of people who have grown up accustomed to a high time preference economy, so it's almost a positive feedback loop right now. >>140015097 Thankfully. >>140015160 I don't know anything about that. His books are good and his thinking is pretty solid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504376927 140003286,140015887,2017-09-02 18:29:27,">>140015552 Lol",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504376967 140003286,140016022,2017-09-02 18:30:54,">>140015385 been here since 2013. Got over my libertarians phase, so will most of you. I hope >>140015394 you do not seem to realise traditional values were not concieved with shareholder value in mind, and therefore will never be promoted with nearly the same intensity of those that are. >aristocrats of the soul you are taking a litteral shit on evola's grave with your bramblings, dont do that",,Anonymous,1433670295610.gif,eRtV4rOsnVNfY0OgQnZ74A==,NL,,1504377054 140003286,140016026,2017-09-02 18:30:56,">>140009370 No. Given how people do seem concerned about the quality of the food and are willing to pay more for it. Doing away with taxes will also have the effect of lowering prices and thus making it more available.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504377056 140003286,140016197,2017-09-02 18:32:35,">tfw went from fascism to hoppean anarcho-capitalism feels good man.",,Anonymous,1504132436580.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,ES,,1504377155 140003286,140016276,2017-09-02 18:33:14,">>140015542 >because it rejects empiricism for formulating conclusions Explain this please.. >and is anti-central banking. THATS WHY i eas asking if a libertarian can work in a bank, so a libertarian can work in other banks but not in the central bank? Sorry for my ignorance",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504377194 140003286,140016312,2017-09-02 18:33:40,">>140009598 > brave/qwant >gab/minds >vidme/bit-chute The old order is dying. From the ashes the new one shall arise.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504377220 140003286,140016497,2017-09-02 18:35:37,">>140016276 >>because it rejects empiricism for formulating conclusions >Explain this please..",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-09-02_18-34-56.png,mm9ki9xn4WF5XdwS3S61mQ==,US,,1504377337 140003286,140016525,2017-09-02 18:35:54,">>140009879 Some are. Some aren't. Most couldn't give a damn as long as property rights (life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, right of free association) are not violated.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504377354 140003286,140016553,2017-09-02 18:36:17,">>140016197 Awesome, good on you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504377377 140003286,140016702,2017-09-02 18:38:01,">>140010056 You don't shit where you eat (that part is obvious) and you break the NAP if you shit where someone else eats.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504377481 140003286,140016807,2017-09-02 18:39:11,">>140016276 It's complicated to explain here. Austrian economics is based on praxeology and a priori axioms and premises. This is probably a good start: mises.org/library/primer-austrian-economics mises.org is the most premier Austrian organization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504377551 140003286,140016823,2017-09-02 18:39:18,">>140010087 Being a libertarian is more than muh weed and muh legal prostitution colgate. It's about owning your own work.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504377558 140003286,140016879,2017-09-02 18:39:56,">Rothbard praised Malcolm X for ""acting white"" through use of his intellect and wit, and contrasted him favorably with the ""fraudulent intellectual with a rococo Black Baptist minister style, ""Dr."" King"". But while he compared Malcolm X's black nationalism favorably to King's integrationism, and for a time praised black nationalism,[86] in 1993 he rejected the vision of a ""separate black nation"", asking ""does anyone really believe that ... New Africa would be content to strike out on its own, with no massive ""foreign aid"" from the U.S.A.?"" How much more based can a man be?",,Anonymous,1489016111170.png,Ta5wEvrtmH/zhX+xvUZqgw==,,,1504377596 140003286,140016970,2017-09-02 18:40:54,">>140016276 >>and is anti-central banking. >THATS WHY i eas asking if a libertarian can work in a bank, so a libertarian can work in other banks but not in the central bank? >Sorry for my ignorance Central banking means some type of state-enforced banking and currency monopoly. As you know, state-enforced monopolies cause problems in any domain. The only way you can get people to put their money into a bank or currency where they're unlikely to get the full amount of money back is if you have a monopoly. There used to be totally independent banks in competition with each other.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504377654 140003286,140016988,2017-09-02 18:41:03,">>140016497 Lol come on america younposted a wall of test I wanted your explanation",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504377663 140003286,140017057,2017-09-02 18:41:51,">>140016988 Okay just read the first page or paragraph then.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504377711 140003286,140017066,2017-09-02 18:41:57,">>140016022 >I was a Libertarian Yeah they all say that. You were probably a cuckbertatian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504377717 140003286,140017115,2017-09-02 18:42:29,">>140011083 >When google fired James Damore the ancap community was chimping out like they forgotten the fact that google is a private business and that the little faggot just got ""physically removed"". And we switched business since no one can force us to give patronage to something we don't agree with. But freedom of association is incomprehensible to a leftist drone.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1504377749 140003286,140017235,2017-09-02 18:43:48,">>140016022 You have the wrong impression of those guys. and our society is rotten to the core, you need people forming a new one with guidance, building the foundation on earth so a true authority can descend upon the throne from heaven. you can't force them to live up to the ideals, they have to come from within. you are only free from lower desires if you don't have the need to fight them anymore.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504377828 140003286,140017381,2017-09-02 18:45:30,">>140016525 >>140016702 >>140016807 Thanks guys >>140016970 >There used to be totally independent banks in competition with each other. Oh so a libartarian can work in a bank, but some of them will agree with ending with the central bank. He will never want to work in a central bank or state owned bank?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504377930 140003286,140017511,2017-09-02 18:46:45,">>140016022 >Got over my libertarians phase oh you are just one of those /pol/ ""fascists"" good luck.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504378005 140003286,140017597,2017-09-02 18:47:34,">>140017381 It's mostly just personal preference, there is supposedly a Rothbardian working in the White House now, but I can't remember her name.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504378054 140003286,140017677,2017-09-02 18:48:17,>>140011473,,Anonymous,mcnukes.jpg,kGW0Vj9GrcA9bOeXhU+iXQ==,RO,,1504378097 140003286,140017710,2017-09-02 18:48:35,">>140017597 Interesting >>140017057 I will",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504378115 140003286,140017762,2017-09-02 18:49:08,">>140017066 >cuckbertarian every libertarian is a cuck >>140017235 what you are describing is a fascist national rebirth >>140017511 >oh you are just one of those /pol/ ""fascists"" i think ive made it quite clear",,Anonymous,Musso8.jpg,IWJQh6NWmMOJEpvG6P7tww==,NL,,1504378148 140003286,140017772,2017-09-02 18:49:14,">>140017381 >He will never want to work in a central bank or state owned bank? Correct. You can read like pages 50-125 in Rothbard's History Of Money And Banking In The US if you want to learn more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504378154 140003286,140017857,2017-09-02 18:50:06,">>140017381 That's about it. But given that the state has tainted and corrupted so much of our lives and is so entrenched in the economy it becomes increasingly hard to escape its clutches. Although Hoppe did say that all central bankers, regardless of whether they are more wise or not, are criminals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504378206 140003286,140017876,2017-09-02 18:50:21,">>140017762 Saying that every libertarian is a cuck is like saying every fascist is a civic nationalist, you faglord.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1504378221 140003286,140017927,2017-09-02 18:50:50,">>140017762 Mussolini was a Marxist before he realized class struggle wouldn't work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504378250 140003286,140018160,2017-09-02 18:53:08,">>140017762 I think you mistake those guys for something they aren't. the people in /lrg/ are good guys. I am interested what you think about the new right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504378388 140003286,140018759,2017-09-02 18:59:15,">>140017762 This is a fasces. Do you realize that the English translation is derived from this word? The English translation is ""faggot"". Fascism is literally ideological faggotry. Get out of this thread before I beat your faggot ass.",,Anonymous,LITERAL_FAGGOTRY.png,ac8oXlNs7m4CIedkZythYg==,US,,1504378755 140003286,140018920,2017-09-02 19:00:48,">>140018759 >>140017762 For the record, I'm only half serious. Fascists are our natural allies in the coming political upheaval.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504378848 140003286,140018990,2017-09-02 19:01:25,">>140017772 >>140017857 >>pages 50-125 in Rothbard's History Of Money And Banking In The US if you want to learn more. Cool",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504378885 140003286,140019225,2017-09-02 19:03:38,gLr6Ak6G Q HlDWtbhYLSREqHgtV vP slRnHoiZ Z05 nkmxnmaZE6M EnxkOv Q5DQ0 cEPgEg1737dOrurePiKPe91n3gTX1nJBs7909KlL 0BWoxkwSP3h7vO0 Df8xPA ThEhLehr0IIhE IfF 5cLU x0 oO4i3HP EznWKpCa1 y1ESUj POkVsSqU 0NJWaoOf LW8uhL7i2MP686XdCwK gwuZbBc36 2ZfT79xv jQiZBIy Erh go 17XRd E3k8P LR1awI 937Fj PiSBEiJCQBw27703cAkpjMA V DP JcbBatpU4Ee8hEs3d Cf 3fIyi8 9F Ir O I5oC8a JJ75MFNsNk6q67GRBg AdwZ3MeB w pAd5xC5Lqxcdq97VZNBh554sk9S LQp6 FJ2 S3y5LaTarnAmAKKsslgdd 106eNG0G5EI0ymLjwq 9y eP Z f0ScqqJAK e0pndLFoBBS lD3R nFQbcH6qxcoNvDW3VI qu 4KR44 bg7yWHlj59K ddb38 iN3fpmLS5 r Sj gS YMWXg4BFEdPvpcfXxJz7zi8bgFZBok92u 1K6q5Nb Aw 0t 7Q bX87RVHj 29 5K7y 2b60 0 scjQeb 6k cMjfxy5j 6j6Iqxw3ciFCA4P u2NUW zpdFEzF Kw saZ5 oV3N z60nDfAQT8 mU4 5Y8N Hn6LWPb83GvtcucZyq9rq5Nb7L7 EF4wFI WGxkdaWG2pLAuXa4n9XQ 83P GMHxp7ON 6MJOE E2lBifv5r20D oNUv o0 mKcDLNy97M5yPP9pJJerXMdV3o 5zu1BW1 6e kcEghT5D zWbo6z TUcnDyRlCqQZ 96Ln 1K 3iUYU 1Hf6 vU9SO5hRExdi7YSH6 7 Rva KQ85 5 Ntpv4 h63p2DJFAO7EH97xGdm4hvKccwAci3av14SXJ5KQ F3p jPsyT 4W7if4 C1MNswSdU1 g3 Wqc rkT D1L4Us1rYibh73yX6aYKj30E 46CoZLmKWxsWJZ3HjXf 7 MG cL5fKfx6Pyr0rgOq GXZ5bf3Sk 28JV7eRj8MxjgQ8ng mOgp lb cX8I N AivOL6ApRIL646 bJ5H 9IV 47EuU2879LAC4O9 1ellf49 3kq x0x x3a2OsdI tGIo V d 5e8 3 8W7FbItX0 OD0X17KRhANZi9xj 2G MPZASym plrEYzb 1ZHYQ8U oXP3YEK6025N75uib7z TMP2 a869 rsyCzKz3Uz5Ril K kcOU aIyiRJ39 i774u3 3tKRTX Ok oxbZYr2 9 f2V7v81X0FF vKn6G o6Zn 1uOv KaWls6 NPiK8wq d8 a2392 N9NE4thFBUYhq4Osd5hbm4j U5yftr Z3FXvvZGKf2 3e XoR7o S8RLFDiAs72S e6wK iZc13h4zIFmsTB rNrsGcaB0w 4 cDFJ948W0fHjREz8gKtjaD R X J lzIeP0d3JSvj Wq6BE0aXZoclscGJRh AvGI 75pyB10vjgVz g KsB5O08K1rN u XdqLIJp 2 ge W Z1P9MG1137 IGVPY4 J nvAOyE3 5KiAe6lMGSg6IJsBUu1 MD81do36CY8lp6 e3n 2 38FMurvIlljM 6b4dmPizw48 4 2M Wh5Jev46Y wcL2Kgk 8f8TJ1ueWvYDfTa7 d6f2eIYq0 VqB1Xa7mL7242WH2mg223 TCw6U6JWf3Hd0MfRJGHCF 2 ANcB3fe1QHZy uV0n3B8ug01IDymM05rdAoEbhv2lCUmc EI5p2345 7l82z 1wua05x3 CfX6 bqTLI OjQ7y5H4PJrQD6CdCY N LK DpsaFJiRMVqvu99o41W6ysAY PmDl noLAqE3 2F8bP J 6WbcYTUAqjFg A 0H6d,,Anonymous,cqmfrmvv.jpg,v4Sb4zBdngHkyZR18jlfRA==,BR,,1504379018 140003286,140019359,2017-09-02 19:04:42,">>140018160 >I am interested what you think about the new right? braindead cuckservatives, but contemporary politics are a lost cause. There is nobody to root for >>140018759 >>140018920 >ideology of action allied with the ideology of pacifism gladly for me there wont be any political upheaval i would allign myself with",,Anonymous,Bruschetti.jpg,iBEg2R27LpUmdn90yjxcwg==,NL,,1504379082 140003286,140019366,2017-09-02 19:04:50,">>140018759 While it works as a joke it is... not an argument.",,Anonymous,molechet.jpg,PKUeJI1aZFzLpN1ZasVcxg==,RO,,1504379090 140003286,140019508,2017-09-02 19:06:01,aS2CGukcn R qq621Spi 995BGRtcwReEsa8FnDdVc UnX14E wU370 p kCG9qcd 9pU cqU cTLF30xHGLhqr1kSSM uD3hM9Lk 7ffzMB 4eY3K9jFy Cl qR6B6y 5j6GH6KSL6LxDR617dGKKJ8md5V9Yh3 eu7VnB0QpU5dcvuB2WAOw2wKY3d8eL6da Py G 2 XRy4V2 DsnM ueVy3655lJ24vgTW eNwf Q5R yyz3o pKMG53IW0D5FUz61L0042jrCysaK g Wgc p No5W B3s G7 7F PtF3sozv4xks O wwyocWJXGM0OwiITm5yy94XB8Q0u319d2SdEH3ZiCIGF7X2Yo4cUFOyXXrdN0f3dj9h E8wPBk2t G 8vyqz0eLiDTbP1sja7b3Efrk 5vW7 54 sy4yU8yZ2r7WHPgEg6SQj9A ed STeW v5pg h6 X J314wLRQeOawn 303 r60TN jhm eNAEv 5S2CXCB00Y 46PKH1NzqexLykc6u5HyQ0DWbfRh8wU3ga 4 ztyQ 8Ua6e vAtV3850pMrT59a1JwLEagSH2Jhn4 q04s 0 H92C pY1I02py1 0Pjwro412cTunX441m70gtP S2SA1QSnTpi qgm SMyEsUUh7 K1 jWXIOtu17 NJVgRbA R8Uv 8 X5GRK3QT 3A EP7ogNyUV3 e 29VW760jSwadgt2hou72Bb QEqQB 9O p35UAdDh0 XADt2M 6GcDK4SV7ZmoSpHXLEEXb26UxQ Kq9o Y9uG74qN7P1Bnp62WY0yRIzw Dvuz1hWM1juWbEyTsGeR 25dDu45QnA5ncO2 jM N93C1h utm05dwS47563lsvWI6Z1I5rnOUwVVfV7V738n8h 9CpVr81FJS9wzp r088gg7wz a8 Ff 2 Bi1ZUSxyU9pb3 xsGF 4X3GOXx2JZXKrlONN713dxRvX2MdYr LPNN 98hh Y n5Re779Y W1E76qp3X kzA0H MEj A3g 80ps pcBFT4vnsaG1KbZQgTD5j6 5PpSB0FM1 PSBeoXCgtdn1pk Onw62nS dqs icZTt9Tgo526MA7v j 5fw pl6SIm C97QGnm4 FW 2iE18QirCfbJGL F3b8zDG8U0URgeGT2OEHT lfDi8DVO T6VNCA ESZ06aXB6Q sC7d47Uzzag eu p6t73fyXpJCYBFq7to9vI3F8vc l59I3v CVWJwgrn F34c6F76f XHXNRaOBqC 55u0dS54g2 QvZAid CBeR26JF7lRg a88s6FH8lRy2xd 4 qEyH44S0v9JWuNSu EOu63Xa75 CZfdppD0ZYe7 oH4S8Au psu1Nd B09AT 2 p dMPnG49ifQy k67ViUX9435qH3 ntdXOg4wpF5F8C59XpR cLr3m5 7LMA F7f7w eKzzzKd r0f1HW1 b9wG N33sj8Z117ZTyWB R 3Hu YtL67ALXhgTb7EviZjw2Ghu1qzNBwL0 Eh1G5E1Ydkp7 th1yB GMjvE4s RboCVho91f4 TOR3F Z 7Pl46 jE 29V ON3xecFBYD0HeD73utta 8YpHO6 x5DXZWcG 3GnEQCzhtM g dk4 xibeY0b6wiB5yOuh6z B1Nu yZ04kQ 7sb4cbutuTeYXD db7cC Jznm2gL49E4AhXhR0 0WaIaiixJWk57t1Z qONsimjJ V AD2BYhy4XV TbgHg7O5Fr5977Ur0l322o09zXOZ kMbYJl8 0QdF J5 pPz Wu g mi 4f 5dg94gy4oVfljWl9 oC GbX IwBRG8nWg11L e0bK M5Z5Ao mN0e57l9B4 5 F6BmL l7 M2I8YpZ1uR 1afmQfkZ0iG b 704 u6rLGv3ZU Gr0IkNFC9n7ZJ 1N69bvnOB3V83IOF9l1C,,Anonymous,bqq0zyaw.jpg,8wFwgpGOZ0F+GYpy5/2gGg==,BR,,1504379161 140003286,140019613,2017-09-02 19:06:58,">>140019359 No faggot, we are not pacifists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504379218 140003286,140019882,2017-09-02 19:09:07,6wBdKz MhrpmXf1Oms1L ap28EOZ3x8RGffg qizE0xO7qf82 jQ2BhN e y14N Wj IFOvXI st8w m38LrAtQ 07 xknodzaZzNyz7 v8kynp89r7Yjk17jiv0 41f ZAh47t7yaCTOk6Aimt7GKiR40p GlNy8m5b0 XzeV3ti lK87EhVHtgPp1tC9vE RLpm 4W I5DE3 5Rz102K56O4uY9S6z1EK0wFo6c97lIXoQP kQFi s SJW1x 3ZqUu0 6ooD2PnfS9 9q hdw8rDx3He8Yih aktxMtb CK c6 K GuyQi2 6y 2Sfvi0PfXNu0cgYT 7Lk 5whHw xUTgw5448k5UfMMnBlVVE1HL376v zn3azkxD yu3afyET LgQkqu9 1n5rT5b9qo42AK3vhMQLJXCeUD6 EnQ4fM R4a ysfW1yWji ZTgjd3fc31m0 0ZVfN5 7Y3b2P5rEx1yv28NL99f4 L673Og3Ddv61pmt0xGPCuS2K D42 v82 2 iE EKIGm0qCK9t4 3OSwZYgS1EJCc Hi YYu7 VR77r43 939nglG46 z7VGY74TQ0mWxDR8E9h5SuOzQw a 5XNDsf08T7M6FJi0vYYLFKaKnvT8MTxsSVr8qHz LOyDIPoFJc8d0 pl4WC5TR6LaQh zDQxqI 0F iOYO696K04an1 7xUs7ePIS8A8hJAD E 5Sc oiB83dcRJjSw9Gy2F Y7e 6w24D87zxNNoQCFd wMALrcC 523gd3 22l EQEeu5e45IXe01ZS396ek0lC0XBmqDmS 6J i1J hAf1X6 9Wu0oE5LAI1S1q15 GaJv3u3SzRXOh7GN 74qpVn1Y 7Pui IXQ8d4yEQsa4cq quE 96 mR 2 IxVFytF9 iU629vXwpEirqnA7S1rd22E XGxUbp KrX 5 9ZBwz4zTrDq Ta9h6VkN7 j2e18P c7y9IXU4 LvCH6QQwr48OI 2 pppiDoESqU6FR8y uFs 8TPYq4kwL6H2 xlf8 hh7k6v2vJ4 B ssg1Qg7Vv6Y9zmRPU 5 a3xvbfClX4 s5Z v32j yY6wp5 m 15S VBj4 Hs0UridWUG0 4HbvTdc4HR7XJ 0gY4Jx37o155m NOstO6rfj Qk7Sjf2RvyzJp 1Ykfn39ju2y46e412G4ddoMVeJYh4FeYzhtkoFF b M UadOUzwV xVduzgUk3TH9A WywGV8958C9Zh5u0OUQv3Z1bHMv DeYcgqW 9b6nBTd 885vz3Mxy4EnLTcbonaIPxAgbOmebwXFS xmEjfnu 47cFyK18aX80Fahyz55dK 0yHl4Dz9houhM0 pA5J7 vGxGiRVj5jX 8z mpUld8azfthBVqD497hf9RRVq91bB9sMWhrlaI9jS44N nK DQnkDS2FSCQ5vE 4h312TZ6L1bwngbPiepvKgJ T 48h5ZXq6phgk u1H3WiaSHvOEPkPdA39QE6wCaD HH 2m1pW9HL9h6TrsSMs RNZnxtM 5v6zO 1p i44ap F GWcfP4O9DNo4n M866wpAdqCNnx8hKC58986u8JAmEYS0kFe Jt 75iYgQy8jJhXD6rto 6VOKk26s 3CNnD7sGtYwFX879gt 4h0A81u4tlP7H e Sv63 M Q9IsCgr8P 83TYzb0lJth0Bm4g 4I2AW6qCVV1oJkbFQ1 BM2 pn07sbPQz0So0Zp9eO 6 C8kP I4 R 8Ld0 nh7N0NllLCv4Pj4Qzl007e5aKCpgl9zEhjaYI 5B8xC ZTug4 jwhNql 6biHtRL1J2cM07m6QY D 7Y7guTrpvmoH tj rN 7FWYoZ2W7UH ri53Tmwe1tVxohouFwt odqQcji7YdNegAU5HcZ9de6 6BUB QlT9secIs0l5 ufN0xFyyI2TTo 9qirerX6RDg 4A 2Xp9 RmO,,Anonymous,mi4ngiw2.jpg,lGH15Go4k6id32gkM5YOiQ==,BR,,1504379347 140003286,140020172,2017-09-02 19:11:09,">>140019882 >>140019508 Fuck off nerd.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504379469 140003286,140020258,2017-09-02 19:11:48,Why should anybody take Austrians when they reject mathematical economics and econometrics? Not mention their theory of the business cycle assumes that businessmen are dumb as fuck.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504379508 140003286,140020317,2017-09-02 19:12:18,">>140020258 *take Austrians seriously",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504379538 140003286,140020339,2017-09-02 19:12:23,">>140019359 >ideology of pacifism Boy you're way out of your depth in this thread buddy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504379543 140003286,140020519,2017-09-02 19:14:15,">>140020258 Austrians don't reject mathematics and empirical reasoning, just that they aren't useful for forming conclusions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504379655 140003286,140020945,2017-09-02 19:18:15,">>140019359 >braindead cuckservatives, but contemporary politics are a lost cause. Agree with you >ideology of action allied with the ideology of pacifism again you mistake them for something else, I would have said the same about them when I hadn't come into contact with conservative libertarians first.(thank you cantwell pbuh) you seem to describe the openbordersmuhweed leftlibertarians or libertarians in europe. but again those people are good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504379895 140003286,140021037,2017-09-02 19:19:12,">>140020258 >Why should anybody take Austrians when they reject mathematical economics and econometrics? Austrian economics is not a theory of economic analysis. Also read >>140016497 >Not mention their theory of the business cycle assumes that businessmen are dumb as fuck. Well if they reject Austrian economics then they certainly are dumb as fuck. More importantly, Austrian business cycle theory doesn't predict that businessmen make irrational decisions because of central banking, but rather that it changes what constitutes a locally rational decision so that it's misaligned with globally rational decisions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504379952 140003286,140021228,2017-09-02 19:21:11,">>140020339 sure cleetus, thanks for your amazing insights >>140020945 im describing liberalism in all its forms",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1504380071 140003286,140021667,2017-09-02 19:26:05,"LATEST YOUKIPPER https://youtu.be/9ovH_AqHx6o",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504380365 140003286,140022502,2017-09-02 19:34:12,">>140021037 I quit reading after the first or second paragraph. This guy has never taken a basic econometrics course. Econometricians already understand that you need theory to understand some social phenomenon you observe in the world. Generally, in an econometric analysis, you use theory to define your function and parameters and then you use data sets to validate your theory. Current day economists are much more astute than Austrians seem to think. While Austrians have been regurgitating Mises and Hayek for the last 100 years, economists have grown more sophisticated in their understanding of mathematics, statistics and the scientific method.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504380852 140003286,140022584,2017-09-02 19:35:02,,,Anonymous,IMG_20170903_012930.jpg,rfo8X5zuZN8I59cUQ3H3jQ==,ES,,1504380902 140003286,140022686,2017-09-02 19:36:11,Would you still hug her?,,Anonymous,ancap chan autistic version needs protection.jpg,vVZTZJ2D5T6cJrnXH7ZmIQ==,,,1504380971 140003286,140022836,2017-09-02 19:37:50,">>140003286 u guise are all faggots and make the people actually fighting for freedom look bad go back to being natsoc please edgy teenage fuckbois",,Anonymous,lofi_smugo.jpg,9yyncjTl9uZ8eBU7rwJyCg==,,,1504381070 140003286,140022838,2017-09-02 19:37:51,">>140022686 I would hug her and keep her as my pet human. She seems fun to grab ice cream and go to the fair with.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504381071 140003286,140022842,2017-09-02 19:37:53,">>140022686 Sure",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504381073 140003286,140022890,2017-09-02 19:38:16,">>140022584 Hoppeans are insane. You people don't understand the idea of proportionality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504381096 140003286,140022934,2017-09-02 19:38:47,">>140022836 Fuck off cuckboy, Rothbard would be disgusted with cucks like you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504381127 140003286,140022962,2017-09-02 19:39:10,">>140022838 >>140022842 that's pretty nice, thank you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504381150 140003286,140022998,2017-09-02 19:39:30,">>140022836 Agreed. These are horrible optics",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1504381170 140003286,140022999,2017-09-02 19:39:31,">>140022502 sophistication is the essence of any pseudoscience, cult or religion sophisteries are elaborate normaliced fallacies are npt easy to spot on",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1504381171 140003286,140023189,2017-09-02 19:41:19,">>140022890 >advocating throwing people that reject the basic premise of self ownership and private property out of rotary aircraft is disproportional",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504381279 140003286,140023205,2017-09-02 19:41:28,">>140015097 They are somewhat real in the sense they want to abolish the state but they want to do it for their own selfish psychopathic delusional reasons. Regardless they make everyone who practically wants more freedom look terrible and is an embarrassing blemish for the whole political movement.",,Anonymous,usps.gif,91s0VChYRrHhi05Bstl0Tg==,,,1504381288 140003286,140023326,2017-09-02 19:42:51,">>140023205 Explain to me what those psychopathic reasons are.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504381371 140003286,140023397,2017-09-02 19:43:41,">>140023205 Are you the ancap version of the dutch guy?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504381421 140003286,140023413,2017-09-02 19:43:53,">>140013237 He was a fucking faggot and an embarrassment to all who fight for liberty and justice.",,Anonymous,galactica-season-4-baltar-and-six.jpg,rdzH2/eUNlcV8LMu1Hw80w==,,,1504381433 140003286,140023518,2017-09-02 19:45:01,">>140023413 >to all who fight for liberty and justice. so when did you actually fight for it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504381501 140003286,140023538,2017-09-02 19:45:11,">>140022890 life is a pvp game with perma death you fucking normies you can't fucking pretend you need to remain innactive towards people hidding their identity invading property, that is not accidental, and even if it is, that stupidity shall be purged the fuck out wait until its too late makes you a cucktarian",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1504381511 140003286,140023649,2017-09-02 19:46:23,">>140003286 He is such a meme.",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-09-03 at 1.44.59 AM.png,DwX2glVk4aPJvx8jjFRIrw==,,,1504381583 140003286,140023677,2017-09-02 19:46:40,">>140023413 My faggot meter is off the charts with this tard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504381600 140003286,140023702,2017-09-02 19:46:55,">>140023649 pdf stefan's book is up online http://www92.zippyshare.com/v/CRrZeBWE/file.html",,Anonymous,,,,,1504381615 140003286,140023746,2017-09-02 19:47:23,">>140023677 I bet he is German.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504381643 140003286,140024030,2017-09-02 19:50:24,">>140006538 It's a terrible unethical idea and an embarrassing scar to libertarianism. I dont want you faggots associating with me and people who actually want freedom and prosperity. Normies see threads like this one and think libertarianism is just a private form of fascism which technically could exist on private property but still most libertarians wouldnt choose to live like a bunch of autistic edgy teenagers on 4chan.",,Anonymous,mainstay_ng.jpg,nK04SBmFxKOCcXhgV05pmg==,,,1504381824 140003286,140024205,2017-09-02 19:52:04,">>140024030 >and think libertarianism is just a private form of fascism which technically could exist on private property beautiful isn't it",,Anonymous,squadrismo-3.jpg,oXxO5YL6pn50HPUHxA222w==,,,1504381924 140003286,140024225,2017-09-02 19:52:11,">>140023649 Remember when Stephan Molyneax was for free migration? He sold out to the alt-right white nationalist crowd to stay relevant on youtube. How sad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504381931 140003286,140024452,2017-09-02 19:54:13,">>140023538 The government is the one invading on my property rights but you people want to give more power to government so that they can threaten more violence against immigrants.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504382053 140003286,140024455,2017-09-02 19:54:14,">>140003436 No, you are the cancer. You are an autistic edgy teenager that never leaves his house and never gets laid and never was invited to parties so you seek meaning in your life and a cause bigger than yourself but you are misguided and your heart has been turned black by evil.",,Anonymous,edgelord.png,hvVifJw0g08WKZSojMV0nA==,,,1504382054 140003286,140024606,2017-09-02 19:55:47,">>140024455 >never gets laid lefty degenerate confirmed",,Anonymous,,,,,1504382147 140003286,140024610,2017-09-02 19:55:49,">>140022999 Then I suppose computer science is also a ""pseudoscience"" because I'm ready a textbook on algorithms and it also applies mathematics, the scientific methods & even statistics to the theory of algorithms.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504382149 140003286,140024695,2017-09-02 19:56:45,">>140024225 That's not The Argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1504382205 140003286,140024766,2017-09-02 19:57:26,">>140024455 But anon, I was invited to parties and got laid plenty. Also - you say normies are scared and then think this is private fascism? Boo hoo, sorry their fee fees are hurt. I'm a Rothbardian because I want to be able to freely associate with fellow traditionalists and white nationalists and form our own covenant community free of people like you. You don't want to associate with me? Good fucking ridance.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504382246 140003286,140024772,2017-09-02 19:57:30,">>140024030 phisical removal is not about conquering, its just the only logical solution to a technical problem about predators or parasytes In such a game, you either kill\fight these threats or move away and safe from them, and back to previous",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1504382250 140003286,140024813,2017-09-02 19:57:54,">>140009879 Most arent but all the faggot autists on this godforsaken containment board are and theyre trying to subvert libertarianism with racism and ""phsycial removal"" memes. Most people arent stupid enough to judge someone by arbitrary physiological traits and instead judge them by their actions and ideas. Sadly the media has radicalized young men in america and they mistakenly believe that anything that triggers leftists is good which is fucking retarded. Although some good things do trigger leftists.",,Anonymous,warthogs.jpg,I6YnXdHYbeU2y1XsBW0Zrg==,,,1504382274 140003286,140024858,2017-09-02 19:58:21,">>140024030 Physical removal is in perfect Harmony with private property and non aggression. Deal with it faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504382301 140003286,140025008,2017-09-02 19:59:46,">>140024610 just said bullshit theories are all about beimg sophisticated, nothing ele you fking faggot",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1504382386 140003286,140025143,2017-09-02 20:01:22,">>140022998 thnx",,Anonymous,,,,,1504382482 140003286,140025305,2017-09-02 20:03:10,FUCK YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS YOU JUST PROVIDING MORE AMMUNITION FOR THE AUTHORITARIAN LEFT AND DISCOURAGING POTENTIAL ALLIES,,Anonymous,DOGG.jpg,AzEsDd5+gS5u1EVRjrtDLw==,,,1504382590 140003286,140025441,2017-09-02 20:04:37,">>140025305 You're becoming hysterical.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504382677 140003286,140025544,2017-09-02 20:05:53,">>140025305 save the forest, we need the trees for people like you.",,Anonymous,mariemaia.jpg,6qC2XJjSnf9GN7RujlDSgg==,,,1504382753 140003286,140025549,2017-09-02 20:05:56,">>140024452 you're confusing power (ability, capacity, potential of domination) with the verb, the actions and choices, use of that power stopping lesser humans from entering does not increase state power, it is already absolute omnipotency you naive fucking faggot",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1504382756 140003286,140025583,2017-09-02 20:06:25,">>140024858 yeah but celebrating it is toxic and does nothing but discredit anyone trying to get their rights back why do you circle jerk in vile hatred and villainy? why not talk about more constructive topics? where is your altruism? where is your humanity? IN an actual libertarian society you are the ones who would be isolated from everyone else in your own prison of hatred and belief. Your community would widely be known as nothing else but THE RETARD CORNER.",,Anonymous,alex_leann_hott.jpg,/PTXXWgZ+9AOmPhipWVA9g==,,,1504382785 140003286,140025601,2017-09-02 20:06:32,">>140005683 As you go through the legal immigration process, find someone willing to sell you a house, and pay your taxes to utilize American public property, you're fine. The white nationalists in our ranks might have a problem with you though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504382792 140003286,140025622,2017-09-02 20:06:44,">>140006364 would violate her NAP",,Anonymous,,,,,1504382804 140003286,140025785,2017-09-02 20:08:24,">>140025622 i think she would violate your nap sooner or later throwing a plate or a glass at you, when not outright stabbing you with a kitchen knife, why all qt girls have to be crazy?",,Anonymous,julie4.jpg,IMHYOfIjbVeZkNu0xWWMPw==,,,1504382904 140003286,140025819,2017-09-02 20:08:44,">>140005683 As long as you're integrated in the division of labor, do no harm and respect private property rights, you have my respect.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504382924 140003286,140025844,2017-09-02 20:09:01,">>140024813 Good to know that anon, i dont want to asociate with those people",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504382941 140003286,140026005,2017-09-02 20:10:55,">>140015389 Hoppean ≠ Cantwellian",,Anonymous,Hoppeanism Explained.png,ZjEE0qxdN792CKVB0Rsu4Q==,,,1504383055 140003286,140026276,2017-09-02 20:13:48,">>140025583 This, Why some of you are so edgy faggots? How old are you twelve? You are looking like the bad guys here",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504383228 140003286,140026344,2017-09-02 20:14:31,">>140024813 You're dead wrong about us, it makes me sick to see AnCap posters take a massive shit on great Libertarian thinkers like Hoppe and Rothbard. Rothbard was a race realist, but libertines like you like to pretend he wasn't. If he could be around to see your post he'd be rolling in his grave. Hoppe is his protégé. I would hope you would come to the light.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383271 140003286,140026588,2017-09-02 20:17:16,">>140024813 do you date old ugly fat chicks? why so many pejudices? you're irrational and full of hate can't you fucking get an idea of scarce resources? like your fucking life what if you dont want to run a civilized society (((multicultural)))TM because you're gonna fking die before taking a calm breath",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1504383436 140003286,140026625,2017-09-02 20:17:37,">>140025583 Please read Rothbard and reconsider your retardation. How is wanting to live a simple conservative life evil but promoting drug use and alternative life styles is great. You make me fucking sick, you're the illness on Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383457 140003286,140026691,2017-09-02 20:18:16,">>140003286 but what is a leppo?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504383496 140003286,140026758,2017-09-02 20:18:59,">>140026276 >Faggots Wew man, watch the homophobia you racist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383539 140003286,140026782,2017-09-02 20:19:12,">>140025583 Nobody cares faggot. Go ahead and smoke your weed, be the degenerate you want to be. Freedom of association and borders between private properties are CORE CONCEPTS of libertarianism. Open borders are the exact opposite of libertarianism. That is the state forcing you to live with people who arent compatible with you and the state using its coercion to force association.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383552 140003286,140026793,2017-09-02 20:19:19,">>140026691 I literally have no clue.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383559 140003286,140026812,2017-09-02 20:19:33,">>140026344 Rothbard associated with the Left during the 60s. He flipped between left & right like a weather vane, siding with whichever side he thought was most advantageous for him. 90s Rothbard is probably the most cynical. Poor guy was probably desperate to grab anybody's coattails after failing to make libertarianism, particularly his brand his libertarian, relevant through his whole life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383573 140003286,140026923,2017-09-02 20:20:29,">>140026625 Keep fighting each others, sure it will be good for libertarianism. His being a racionak adult, not a lefty",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504383629 140003286,140026937,2017-09-02 20:20:39,">>140026625 >You make me fucking sick, you're the illness on Libertarianism. this the reason why many traditionalists are disgusted by libertarianism are people like this guy, you on the other hand do a good job in promoting property rights and push the libertarian idea.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504383639 140003286,140027067,2017-09-02 20:21:53,">>140026758 Im not saying faggot in that way!, if you want to fuck other dudes I dont care and i wont judge you for doing that, is not my business",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504383713 140003286,140027146,2017-09-02 20:22:43,">>140027067 Shut your mouth you nazi! Fucking racist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383763 140003286,140027175,2017-09-02 20:23:01,">>140027067 and if he would hate faggots and don't want them in his community it is also not your fucking business.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504383781 140003286,140027192,2017-09-02 20:23:15,">>140027067 RACIST! YOU'RE NOT AS A REAL LIBERTARIAN!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383795 140003286,140027208,2017-09-02 20:23:22,">>140025844 Dont let them discourage you. Libertarianism is NOT private fascism which is only a very small subset of libertarians. Most libertarians IRL are very open and only care about actions that directly affect them and wont judge you based on some arbitrary thing like skin color or the balance of neurotransmitters in your prefrontal cortex. Seriously all the libertarians I've met in real life are all rich and super open minded. None of the dogmas that bind other people are present in libertarianism. That's why it's so perfect. These Hoppian douche-bags also mistakenly think that libertarianism is something you declare all at once and then poof the state is magically gone but anyone with half a brain knows that the result of doing that would be catastrophic and most people consider libertarianism a goal to strive towards rather than a particular state of anarchy. The goal is to subvert and undermine centralized authoritarian systems with private decentralized solutions that solve the same problems as their state counterparts. An example is BITCOIN which undermines and replaces government FIAT. Another poorer example is Uber, which although it is a centralized corporation, still allows people to be their own boss and get around taxi regulations. The goal is not a violent revolution but rather a gradual push towards decentralization and privatization which helps people and creates more prosperity and allows people to be free and avoid persecution of the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504383802 140003286,140027281,2017-09-02 20:24:05,"Ohhh come on, so there are nazi libertarians and lefty libertarians? There are no other way of adreess contemporary proplems in the world than being a racist retard?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504383845 140003286,140027339,2017-09-02 20:24:44,">>140027067 You homophobic Nazi. Get out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383884 140003286,140027377,2017-09-02 20:25:05,">>140027146 >>140027175 >>140027192 Lol you are more sencitive than a lefty, areyour felling being hurt?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504383905 140003286,140027425,2017-09-02 20:25:33,">>140027281 >There are no other way of adreess contemporary proplems in the world than being a racist retard? don't you get it you can have your peace love and faggotry community and they can have theirs. try to push your degeneracy on them and you will get stomped.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504383933 140003286,140027475,2017-09-02 20:26:01,">>140027377 You private fascist, you can't be a Libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504383961 140003286,140027598,2017-09-02 20:27:22,">>140027377 you public libertarian, you can't be fascist.",,Anonymous,ancap chan 3.jpg,0RNyhCnx0WBlV8xYi0A6QA==,,,1504384042 140003286,140027601,2017-09-02 20:27:24,">>140003888 >>140004025 >>140004099 >>140004707 Nice aesthetics dude",,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.23.44.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,US,,1504384044 140003286,140027716,2017-09-02 20:28:29,">>140027425 Thank you m8, for a fascist you represent well. /lrg/ loves you back.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504384109 140003286,140027717,2017-09-02 20:28:28,">>140027208 >Seriously all the libertarians I've met in real life are all rich fuck I'm not, poorfag as f",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1504384108 140003286,140027742,2017-09-02 20:28:49,">>140027208 I watch a few economist libertarian in my country and they are good people, not like some of the edgy teenagers of /pol/,Im glad to read your post",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504384129 140003286,140027865,2017-09-02 20:30:14,">>140027716 >/lrg/ loves you back. I wish to hold your hand in the dark times we will have to face.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504384214 140003286,140027924,2017-09-02 20:30:52,">>140027601 Thanks, that pic is your oc right? You got good shit too. Thanks for pic related too if it's yours. It's my favorite",,Anonymous,AIRBOURNE_LEW.png,iYmwYP5NxWA/Gk3IB7qjaA==,US,,1504384252 140003286,140028129,2017-09-02 20:32:56,">>140027924 Sort of, it's an improvement on one of mine.",,Anonymous,glitchr_1502913433000.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,US,,1504384376 140003286,140028139,2017-09-02 20:33:00,">>140027425 >>140027475 >>140027598 Lol at you, its like talking with a lefty >muh feelings >>140027425 So now im a hippie for not being a total retard about ilegal inmigration? Kek Well i abandone this nazi edgy teenager thread. Dont worry when you grow up you will stop being radicals",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1504384380 140003286,140028280,2017-09-02 20:34:35,">>140028139 >Muh feelings That's the point I'm making, this guy calling us fascists is a phony.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504384475 140003286,140028303,2017-09-02 20:34:45,">>140028139 it was just an example you don't even get the basics of property rights.",,Anonymous,dragon.jpg,drbI0u8L3U9NArXDPuUFRg==,,,1504384485 140003286,140028394,2017-09-02 20:35:43,">>140028129 I know, it's my edit :D",,Anonymous,GroovyHoppe.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1504384543 140003286,140028509,2017-09-02 20:37:00,">>140028394 Hoppe is ugly as fuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504384620 140003286,140028562,2017-09-02 20:37:36,">>140026625 >How is wanting to live a simple conservative life evil but promoting drug use and alternative life styles is great? Nothing wrong with wanting to live a simple life but if youre judging people based on arbitrary physical traits like their skin color or what chemicals they have in their brain then NO ONE WILL WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH YOU EXCEPT OTHER RETARDS LIKE IN THIS THREAD. If someone is on drugs but you cannot tell form their outward behavior and it doenst affect their judgment WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CARE? Do you understand most people wouldnt want to associate with an uptight autistic douchebag like yourself? If someone's skin happens to be brown but they are wealthy and a good friend but you talk shit about them and refuse to work with them NO ONE WILL WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH YOU. You faggots should be able to have your own retard corner somewhere I agree but in the meantime while we all have to promote libertarianism i wish you would shut your goddamn mouths about your sick fantasies because it discredits none douche bag people trying to gain their freedoms back. >You make me fucking sick, you're the illness on Libertarianism. Ironic because I dont think hatred and violence are exactly traditional values. At least not Christian. Do you think Christ would condemn people for arbitrary phsyical traits. And I dont hate you but you are an embarassment to libertarians in general and I pitty you as well and wish that your life wasnt so pathetic and lonely and void of affection so you blame your misery and loneliness on people less fortunate than yourself. Again. Leftist Authoritarians are stupid but that doesnt mean that anything that triggers them is inherently good. You young teenage edge masters have gotten confused and forgot that only a few things that are ethical and righteous actually trigger liberals and those things usually have to do with prosperity and liberty.",,Anonymous,smugo.png,Hp1v8fI1A5SmB9ipa2cCMA==,,,1504384656 140003286,140028576,2017-09-02 20:37:50,>>140028509,,Anonymous,Hoppe (2).jpg,21768B5S1nJ4MHy9yVjtjA==,US,,1504384670 140003286,140028854,2017-09-02 20:40:58,">>140027208 Good luck when low time preference whites and traditional families far outpace all other lifestyles in the free market of communities.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504384858 140003286,140028884,2017-09-02 20:41:17,">>140028562 Lol, mate for real. You don't understand race realism. I don't hate black people that act nice and are integrated, productive members of society. I generally dislike them because most of them are NOT nice people, which is a statistical fact. And yes I do judge by the individual before statistics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504384877 140003286,140028973,2017-09-02 20:42:06,">>140027742 Check out Peter Schiff He is jewish but not a central banking type and promotes the gold standard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by1OgqQQANg Also we need to think of a way to organize libertarians online but do away with these edgemasters. Although they are just young and need compassion as much as anyone else so they need to be included on some level somehow. But I think it would be good to have all the coolest libertarians in the world organize online somehow...",,Anonymous,,,,,1504384926 140003286,140029188,2017-09-02 20:44:29,">>140028854 This guy doesn't even know the history how europe prospered, he is the type the dutch guy ranted about and those people make all of you look like pacifistic materialistic fools.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504385069 140003286,140029229,2017-09-02 20:45:06,">>140003286 pic related cannot be stressed enough",,Anonymous,1501469351935.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,CA,,1504385106 140003286,140029340,2017-09-02 20:46:20,">>140029188 Exactly. It's a darn shame when we have to have a fascist like you explain ancap better to other ""ancaps"". We live in interesting times. Nice digits mate.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504385180 140003286,140029353,2017-09-02 20:46:29,">>140029229 Thank you based leaf, this is the central message.",,Anonymous,AnarcoCanadianism.png,PT7LTE19cU1x/SSnjlrcJA==,,,1504385189 140003286,140029393,2017-09-02 20:46:59,">>140028884 >race realism I understand it but when I have to work with someone who happens to be black or a woman I GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. Just like it's wrong to automatically assume all white men are nazis or racist.. its equally wrong to assume someone is a criminal or low IQ just based on their skin color, gender, or medications their taking.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504385219 140003286,140029649,2017-09-02 20:49:52,">>140029340 He is just an ignorant fool born in the remains of a once great civilization, he never whitnessed the whole glory that we had and takes it for granted. A fucking shame he is, thinking that prosperity and greatness comes from nothing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504385392 140003286,140029755,2017-09-02 20:51:14,Do you guys ever use poldare.com?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504385474 140003286,140029774,2017-09-02 20:51:26,"National-socialism has answer you will never have, deal with it. REEEE",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1504385486 140003286,140029789,2017-09-02 20:51:41,">>140029393 Literally none of us said otherwise in the thread so far. We're just talking in broad strokes. And you have tons of empirical data on the loss of trust in multiracial communities. Multiculturalism and democracy (i.e. socialism, egalitarianism) go hand in hand. Look man, I don't mind having people of different backgrounds in AnCapistan. But I sure as fucking will only buy a house in a racially segregated neighborhood. And you know what? All statistics point to that being the most profitable and in line with property owners wishes solution there is.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504385501 140003286,140029804,2017-09-02 20:51:52,">>140029393 well Its not as plain as assuming blindy. when I see a black man in a suit and tie I can assume he is an honest person, but when I see a group of blacks with their pants around their ankles and dressed like thugs I can safely assume they are not friends. In the neighborhood I live in there are no nice black guys is suits. it is a fact of my enviorment that 90% of blacks are animals. Can you maybe consider for a second that im not just a crazy irrational racist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504385512 140003286,140029858,2017-09-02 20:52:24,">>140028854 AHAHAHAHHA KIND OF LIKE HOW HITLER STARTED PERSECUTING ALL THE JEWS AND HIS SMARTEST SCIENTISTS MOVED TO THE UNITED STATES TO WORK ON THE ATOM BOMB? YOU DO REMEMBER THAT EINSTEIN WAS JEWISH RIGHT? YOU KNOW THAT THE JEWISH SCIENTISTS AT THE TIME WERE LEADING NUCLEAR RESEARCH? YOU KKNOW OPPENHEIMER WAS JEWISH???? TO BREED CREATIVITY A SOCIETY MUST PROVIDE COMFORT FOR ECCENTRIC INDIVIDUALS!!! THATS WHY WHEN HUMANS STARTED FARMING AND ALL MEN WERENT REQUIRED TO HUNT ANIMALS AND BE WARRIORS, ADVANCES IN WRITING AND TECHNOLOGY OCCURRED. DEGENERACY LITERALLY FUELS CREATIVITY. THAT IS WHY ALL THE GREAT MUSICIANS HAVE LEAD ECCENTRIC LIVES. THAT IS WHY NEWTON AND TESLA WERE BATSHIT INSANE. GENIUS AND CRAZY ARE TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. HAVE FUN IN YOUR STARCHED WHITE BORING CARDOARD SOCIETY WHICH WONT BE ABLE TO INNOVATE JACK SHIT AND WONT HAVE ANY CULTURE OR ART.",,Anonymous,SUCH_DEGENERACY.jpg,FuiRwUV1A9+eSZGrfJIh4A==,,,1504385544 140003286,140029880,2017-09-02 20:52:43,"Libertarians are always so beta, incomplete. You need to work on ideology.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1504385563 140003286,140029921,2017-09-02 20:53:12,">>140029804 >when I see a black man in a suit and tie I can assume he is an honest person, but when I see a group of blacks with their pants around their ankles and dressed like thugs I can safely assume they are not friends. THIS H I S",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504385592 140003286,140030026,2017-09-02 20:54:24,">>140029858 You're clearly off your meds today .",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504385664 140003286,140030074,2017-09-02 20:54:53,">>140029921 Thank you portubro, I feel like im taking crazy pills with these people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504385693 140003286,140030181,2017-09-02 20:56:24,">>140030074 I'm pretty sure they're trolling us. No one writes like that. Either that or he's really off of his meds.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504385784 140003286,140030194,2017-09-02 20:56:32,this shit ideology is good for nothing but silly memeball jpegs,,Anonymous,nu-anon.jpg,rwrdsl3i4IZx/EBDZPAHKQ==,US,,1504385792 140003286,140030242,2017-09-02 20:57:02,">>140029880 >You need to work on ideology. they are on it, they just don't have anything in history to relate to, closest would be the holy roman empire of the german nation.",,Anonymous,reichsf.jpg,dkQRn0qTVl3+Oqhb0GUc5Q==,,,1504385822 140003286,140030610,2017-09-02 21:01:28,">>140029880 >swisscuck living in the libertarian paradise >""so beta and incomplete"" get a grip",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504386088 140003286,140030631,2017-09-02 21:01:44,">>140030242 >don't have anything in history to relate to This man,I see fascists post high-culture art from their spiritual successors and i apreciate it. I wish we had somthing to relate to. My bros need inspiration.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504386104 140003286,140030735,2017-09-02 21:02:48,">>140030026 IM FUCKING RIGHT MOTHER FUCKER. THE AMOUNT OF COMFORT A SOCIETY ALLOWS ECCENTRIC INDIVIDUALS IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONATE TO HOW CREATIVE THE POPULATION IS. THIS CAN LITERALLY BE BACKED UP BY ARCHAEOLOGY. ITS NO COINCIDENCE THAT WHEN POPULATIONS BEGAN FARMING THEY BEGAN WRITING AND BUILDING STONE STRUCTURES. MEN WHO WOULD NOT MAKE GOOD HUNTERS OR WARRIORS WERE ABLE TO EXERT THEIR CREATIVE GENES. YOU ARE ALSO A FUCKING FAGGOT BECAUSE YOU ARE POSTING ON AN ANIME IMAGEBOARD AND OBVIOUSLY A SHITPOSTING BETA YET YOU ARE ARGUING FOR A STRICT ""TRADITIONAL"" SOCIETY. IF YOU TRIED TO SIT HOME ALL DAY SHITPOSTING IN ONE OF THE TRADITIONAL FASCISTIC SOCIETIES LIKE NAZI GERMANY YOU WOULD HAVE A BOOT COME CRASHING DOWN ON YOUR DOME PIECE AND YOU WOULD BE FORCED INTO A CAMP FOR ANTI SOCIAL BEHAVIOR. ITS IRONIC THAT YOU BETA FAGGOTS MASTURBATE TO ""TRADITIONAL"" SOCIETIES SO MUCH BUT I KNOW WHY. ITS BECAUSE YOU DELUDE YOURSELF INTO THINKING THAT YOUR ENVIRONMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PERSONAL FAILURES AND THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF MAGICAL NAZI FAIRY THAT COULD GRANT YOU ADMIRABLE CHARACTER TRAITS LIKE CONFIDENCE OR INTEGRITY.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504386168 140003286,140030925,2017-09-02 21:04:47,">>140030631 >wild west america >T. Jefferson >all of the american revolution >the confederates (breaking off 'cause of taxes) >the current swiss >late 19th century America >16th century british we have a lot to relate to my dude",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504386287 140003286,140031133,2017-09-02 21:07:06,">>140030735 Really made me think. Thanks for posting that.",,Anonymous,1483572619313.jpg,dn9FXbA6AkmZw25PmoVT/w==,PT,,1504386426 140003286,140031155,2017-09-02 21:07:22,">>140030925 you're fucking right meng. we got the good shit. Jefferson is crazy redpilled.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504386442 140003286,140031174,2017-09-02 21:07:34,">>140030631 as I said take a look on the holy roman empire, than we have also a common ground, because fascism is only the reaction of the death of the old world starting with the french revolution and ending with ww1. You had an decentralized aristocracy with many citystates and lands owned by barons and dukes, united by the kaiser as a moral authority. even the classical liberals I know have schiller and goethe to relate.",,Anonymous,kan47.jpg,e8xQeoRmvN1a9nmhZszE9g==,,,1504386454 140003286,140031192,2017-09-02 21:07:46,">>140026005 Hoppe likes Cantwell.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504386466 140003286,140031241,2017-09-02 21:08:19,">>140030735 You have a point. So do identitarians. I'll just remain ambivalent and stay comfortable with both. This will be my diversified investment.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504386499 140003286,140031426,2017-09-02 21:10:30,">>140029804 EVERYONE LEARNS HOW TO CHARACTERIZE THREATS IN THEIR ENVIRONMENT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU BECOME SO DELUDED THAT YOU THINK THAT CORRELATION EQUALS CAUSATION. REPEAT AFTER ME: CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION. IT IS PERFECTLY POSSIBLE FOR A BLACK FAMILY TO HAVE DEVELOPED IN A GOOD ENVIRONMENT AN ACQUIRED THE LINAGE NECESSARY TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE MODERN WORLD AND POLITE BY WESTERN STANDARDS. IT IS ALSO POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE HEROIN BUT NOT IN A WAY THAT CAUSES JUDGEMENT PROBLEMS AND NEGATIVE HEALTH EFFECTS OR ADVERSE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES. JUST LIKE NOT EVERYONE TURNS INTO PSYCHOPATHIC MASS MURDERERS WHEN THEY TAKE SSRIS BUT SOME PEOPLE DO. YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR CART BEFORE YOUR HORSE AND ITS ANNOYING AND PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE PEOPLE THAT JUDGE THEM BASED ON ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES THEIR OUTWARD BEHAVIOR, ACTIONS OR WORDS.",,Anonymous,canteen_k.jpg,+ZTpAGmUKijSU3amBn+O6Q==,,,1504386630 140003286,140031429,2017-09-02 21:10:36,">>140031174 It wouldn't be hard for me to apreciate the roman empire desu.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504386636 140003286,140031436,2017-09-02 21:10:37,">>140005589 Hopefully his lawyers take full advantage of all the bad press they're getting. Serendipitous timing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504386637 140003286,140031561,2017-09-02 21:12:20,">>140031241 >identitarians People should be able to preserve their culture and heritage but not at the expense of others.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504386740 140003286,140031612,2017-09-02 21:12:48,">>140031426 You didn't adress what I said at all dude. >IT IS ALSO POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE HEROIN BUT NOT IN A WAY THAT CAUSES JUDGEMENT PROBLEMS AND NEGATIVE HEALTH EFFECTS OR ADVERSE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES. JUST LIKE NOT EVERYONE TURNS INTO PSYCHOPATHIC MASS MURDERERS WHEN THEY TAKE SSRIS BUT SOME PEOPLE DO. This is straight up false, you have no clue how many heroin users I know personally. It ruins your life, every time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504386768 140003286,140031645,2017-09-02 21:13:16,">>140025785 They have to be. A libertarian woman is somewhat of a contradiction. They have to fight their baser female instincts to seek a life of freedom, which requires vulnerability, which is a biologically foreign concept for women.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504386796 140003286,140032112,2017-09-02 21:18:34,">>140026812 90s Rothbard was Rothbard in his most glorious form. Hail Rothbard (pbuh)",,Anonymous,Race.png,MAnHYqLwDUwN+7H5IJ/ZaQ==,,,1504387114 140003286,140032150,2017-09-02 21:18:53,">>140031429 while I also like the roman empire I like the german version of it more and even your economist school is named after it, now austria is just a keynesian shithole full of socialists. >>140031645 good point and I always thought a libertarian gf would be the best because she has free'd herself from all those mere politics, normally women shill hard for democracy.",,Anonymous,autism..png,0A/QDqa+llLN+fxBQR386w==,,,1504387133 140003286,140032387,2017-09-02 21:21:22,I made a thing,,Anonymous,PicsArt_09-02-09.19.43.jpg,aWyZKSfRNM0sUE3hHCYfuw==,US,,1504387282 140003286,140032668,2017-09-02 21:24:18,">>140031612 >It ruins your life, every time. this wouldn't be much of a problem, they would just sort themselves out and if they go crazy and attack you or try to steal from you you could just shoot them. the problem with it as long as you have a socialist healthcare system other people are forced to pay for the self destruction.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504387458 140003286,140032869,2017-09-02 21:26:35,">>140031612 >You didn't adress what I said at all dude.' What is it then? You have learned to recognize threats in your environment but you have become deluded as to think that every black person you meet wearing baggy pants is a criminal ready to mugg you. There ARE infact many black people that dress according to urban styles yet are perfectly admirable individuals. YOU ARE CONFUSING CORRELATION WITH CAUSATION. THE MELANIN IN THEIR SKIN AND THEIR FACIAL FEATURES DO NOT CAUSE THEM TO BE CRIMINALLY INCLINDED. That is literally a factor of their familial linage (genetic and genetic) and economic circumstances.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504387595 140003286,140032936,2017-09-02 21:27:25,">>140031192 While that wouldn't surprise me, I'd like a source on that.",,Anonymous,20a.jpg,vFX0z+PojorUiznmb+JkIg==,,,1504387645 140223776,140223776,2017-09-04 10:58:45,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FREE CHRIS CANTWELL,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1504522725 140223776,140223912,2017-09-04 11:00:19,">CHRIS CANTWELL UPDATE We have a call live from the zog prison, have a listen folks. https://soundcloud.com/user-987448885/6a-1",,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,,,1504522819 140223776,140223967,2017-09-04 11:00:55,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1504522855 140223776,140224013,2017-09-04 11:01:23,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1504522883 140223776,140224142,2017-09-04 11:02:42,,,Anonymous,Libertarian Fascism.png,pWaQLQhGrXwbFaG/dEvBfg==,AU,,1504522962 140223776,140224318,2017-09-04 11:04:36,Minarchists unite,,Anonymous,Famous-Quotes-48958-statusmind.com.jpg,flVNw1/JkiFZvkmc3mq7kA==,US,,1504523076 140223776,140225105,2017-09-04 11:12:40,>>140224318,,Anonymous,1496085231943.png,fJk+zIeC5I4jZ/zsN4Y7DQ==,,,1504523560 140223776,140225231,2017-09-04 11:14:18,,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1504523658 140223776,140225912,2017-09-04 11:21:54,,,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1504524114 140223776,140225995,2017-09-04 11:22:47,Add me to telegram group t.me/torturisto,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504524167 140223776,140226099,2017-09-04 11:23:42,,,Anonymous,1490567419484.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1504524222 140223776,140226165,2017-09-04 11:24:24,">>140223776 >they think they understand property rights Nothing but monarchists looking for a reset button. You claim liberty but know nothing about it.",,Anonymous,rigtwinglpidiots.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1504524264 140223776,140226172,2017-09-04 11:24:28,">>140225995 m8 we don't have a telegram group.",,Anonymous,xwYSdbT.jpg,so0HH5YuIBw1DatKVUVCDg==,,,1504524268 140223776,140226232,2017-09-04 11:24:56,">>140226165 Geofags, pls go.",,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1504524296 140223776,140226424,2017-09-04 11:26:59,">>140226232 Yeah why bother with compromises and ideas that work ill help you understand property rights if you'd like?",,Anonymous,meme.jpg,yQrvSTfK64XOGV9R2oBJTg==,US,,1504524419 140223776,140226443,2017-09-04 11:27:13,">>140226165 >being this economically and ethically illiterate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504524433 140223776,140226549,2017-09-04 11:28:14,">>140226443 >ethics",,Anonymous,billbo.jpg,AZbSj/p7Ju7v269jobTTQg==,US,,1504524494 140223776,140226969,2017-09-04 11:32:44,Christopher Cantwell did nothing wrong.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504524764 140223776,140227124,2017-09-04 11:34:14,">>140226424 lliterally everyone in that image is gay.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504524854 140223776,140227131,2017-09-04 11:34:20,">>140223776 false flag/agent provocateur sa ge",,Anonymous,1504473218507.png,dCNDxC++SRC+iVGkMOV9Lg==,,,1504524860 140223776,140227225,2017-09-04 11:35:21,">>140227131 Listen up faggot, notice how the style of the /rwa/ image is the same as the /lrg/? I invented /rwa/ idiot. we're the same guys.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504524921 140223776,140227261,2017-09-04 11:35:44,">>140226172 You might not but others do",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504524944 140223776,140227334,2017-09-04 11:36:33,">>140226165 >monarchists You say this like it's a bad thing. Feudalism without the serfdom would have been pretty nice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504524993 140223776,140227343,2017-09-04 11:36:38,">>140227131 >>140227225 Rekt",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504524998 140223776,140227355,2017-09-04 11:36:47,">>140227225 NO SHIT, FAGGOT. AND YOU ARE FISHY AS FUCK.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504525007 140223776,140227539,2017-09-04 11:38:38,"can someone explain what state enforced morality constitutes and why it doesnt work? dont schools do a pretty good job of propagating fag liberal views, why wouldnt it work in reverse",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504525118 140223776,140227601,2017-09-04 11:39:25,">>140227225 >>140227355 >>140223912 ill just leave this hear for any uninitiated floating around",,Anonymous,weenies.png,nLVfUtdE2uIk7zKzWKG0fg==,US,,1504525165 140223776,140227713,2017-09-04 11:40:23,Does anyone have Democracy: The God That Failed epub?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504525223 140223776,140227823,2017-09-04 11:41:45,">>140227539 >dont schools do a pretty good job of propagating fag liberal views, why wouldnt it work in reverse There is currently a backlash against the same views that academia has been pushing for.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504525305 140223776,140227957,2017-09-04 11:43:21,">>140223776 why libertarians like pinochet?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1504525401 140223776,140228000,2017-09-04 11:43:51,"/rwa/ is a psyop designed to associate libertarian ideology with white nationalism and Nazism. sa ge",,Anonymous,1504303498665.jpg,tI2q7W7Q8KkGkvkN692dSA==,,,1504525431 140223776,140228107,2017-09-04 11:45:06,">>140227713 It's on Mises I think.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504525506 140223776,140228117,2017-09-04 11:45:10,">>140228000 you're retarded, libertarianism and white nationalism have existed together since the founding fathers you mong.",,Anonymous,1504537312442.jpg,k7QpB6GkbZWWJrDWX88ZxA==,,,1504525510 140223776,140228154,2017-09-04 11:45:39,">>140227957 he sentenced marxists to die via helicopter removal. we like that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504525539 140223776,140228189,2017-09-04 11:46:05,">>140227957 Because he saved Chile from communism and the communists out of rotary aircraft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504525565 140223776,140228484,2017-09-04 11:49:03,">>140228000 also may I add its not a psyop, Its openly the message of /rwa/.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504525743 140223776,140228489,2017-09-04 11:49:06,">>140228154 did pinochet liked libertarianism?i mean he was authoritarian",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1504525746 140223776,140228564,2017-09-04 11:49:49,What are your thoughts on Intellectual Property?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504525789 140223776,140228590,2017-09-04 11:50:07,">>140228489 he used ""libertarian economics"" and was certanly more libertarian than the socialists running chile before, but he was a military dictator.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504525807 140223776,140228678,2017-09-04 11:51:13,">>140228489 When you're country is being overrun by communists, libertarianism is an unaffordable luxury. >>140228564 Theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504525873 140223776,140228935,2017-09-04 11:54:07,">>140223776 Dipshit. Big 'L' Libertarian means the party(Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates) Little 'l' libertarian is a broader group, that still has fuck all to do with Cantwell and stupid fucks like you.",,Anonymous,DSCF1003b.jpg,8Vpu3ZpmAwFJKfSk60/+zg==,,,1504526047 140223776,140229018,2017-09-04 11:55:02,">>140228564 Nothing's stopping you from contractually protecting and enforcing some content you made, I'm completely reject the ""ip is a meme"" meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504526102 140223776,140229135,2017-09-04 11:56:21,">>140228935 Go back to /liberty/ r/anarchocapitalism, or whatever fag board you came from.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504526181 140223776,140229295,2017-09-04 11:58:04,">>140228564 Private property exists as a normative concept because resources are scarce and cannot be used for multiple projects at once; therefore, in order to reduce conflict, we must assign ownership of specific resources to specific people using the most fair rules of property acquisition and exchange possible that is most conducive to social peace. Intellectual property, ideas, songs, music, and PDFs are not scarce. I cannot copy an apple into existence, but I can make a thousand copies of a digital movie WITHOUT depriving anyone else of the ability to watch THEIR copy of the movie. As such, intellectual property has no basis in reality. The simple solution to this problem is for services like iTunes or Jewgle Play to require people to sign a contract agreeing not to copy their downloaded material in order to download said material.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504526284 140223776,140229333,2017-09-04 11:58:34,">>140228935 You cucks don't seem to realize that Rothbard (pbuh) was a friend of the far right, race realism, and nationalist movements.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504526314 140223776,140229471,2017-09-04 11:59:53,">>140226232 I can't believe McAfee actually wasn't kidding. It really sounds like a joke",,Anonymous,,,,,1504526393 140223776,140229685,2017-09-04 12:02:11,">>140229471 The 2016 election was the final nail in the coffin of the Libertarian Party. From an angered party to incompetent nominees to a streaker on stage, the LP has officially proved itself incompatible with libertarianism and civility.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504526531 140223776,140229728,2017-09-04 12:02:40,"Is libertarian just noob anCap? I dont get how people think libertarianism wouldnt lead straight into subversion politics. Smaller government would just end up being mostly jews anf jew media anyways... isnt that what (((they))) would want? Personally I think everything is lining up nicely to bring in true anCap. General colapse of society would best be acheived by choas and culture wars and race wars and ww3. Preferably all at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504526560 140223776,140229803,2017-09-04 12:03:32,">>140229333 Murray? kekkekeke. He wasn't a friend any more than the ACLU is, retard",,Anonymous,MurrayBW[1].jpg,NjP7Faedp2lIririnCYSow==,,,1504526612 140223776,140230261,2017-09-04 12:08:44,">>140229728 Libertarian is the alt lite to AnCap, yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504526924 140223776,140230309,2017-09-04 12:09:06,">>140229728 >Is libertarian just noob anCap? yes, but the opposite, hyphenated homo",,Anonymous,,,,,1504526946 140223776,140230324,2017-09-04 12:09:13,">>140229803 You should maybe read some of his essays and reconsider.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504526953 140223776,140230483,2017-09-04 12:10:51,">>140230309 Are you the same guy who sperged about degeneracy being great because it enabled the communist Albert Einstein?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504527051 140223776,140230692,2017-09-04 12:12:57,">>140223776 Murray (((Rothbard))) Into the bin you go.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504527177 140223776,140230902,2017-09-04 12:15:06,">>140230692 Then just read Bastiat, Molinari, and Hoppe if you can't stand a Jew who also called out leftist Jews",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504527306 140223776,140230982,2017-09-04 12:15:56,">>140230483 doesn't ring a bell",,Anonymous,,,,,1504527356 140223776,140231539,2017-09-04 12:21:25,">>140230902 Jews in general is bad. Try reading some Keynesian works. 1. The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money 2. The End of Laissez-Faire 3. A Tract on Monetary Reform ect",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504527685 140223776,140231676,2017-09-04 12:22:55,">>140231539 >Using the system the current zog implements. How are you against the Jews again?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504527775 140223776,140231861,2017-09-04 12:24:50,">>140231539 >It hasn't ever worked, but that's no reason not to try again >Let's give more power to (((central bankers and planners)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504527890 140223776,140231882,2017-09-04 12:25:05,>>140223776,,Anonymous,antiCommieAction.jpg,iQpdhkMGO6rSZqNYBgzmtw==,,,1504527905 140223776,140232070,2017-09-04 12:26:58,">>140231539 Keynes was gay.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504528018 140223776,140233354,2017-09-04 12:40:18,Kek,,Anonymous,unknown-1.png,srEeR8MglT3zWZ5hZ+9vuA==,US,,1504528818 140223776,140233448,2017-09-04 12:41:13,,,Anonymous,RR_8.png,T8Fu9b39NuW1a2bnJPzpKw==,US,,1504528873 140223776,140233484,2017-09-04 12:41:44,,,Anonymous,Virgil.png,cMoQBZ3SMr1lFZRED71Gxw==,US,,1504528904 140223776,140233551,2017-09-04 12:42:22,,,Anonymous,RR_1.png,nDQnAEKfvcs23XB8Dk8iOQ==,US,,1504528942 140223776,140235007,2017-09-04 12:56:32,,,Anonymous,It_Might.png,9QVpGpzN3YUOpjs9GgplDA==,US,,1504529792 140223776,140235584,2017-09-04 13:02:35,,,Anonymous,RR_9.png,dEapXAOEYwVjqEWTW5vyxg==,US,,1504530155 140223776,140237582,2017-09-04 13:20:47,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504531247 140223776,140237745,2017-09-04 13:22:16,ancapistan when?,,Anonymous,1504020253931.jpg,IV9DRhPObvUWG6PqTWxOgw==,CA,,1504531336 140223776,140238663,2017-09-04 13:30:31,">>140227601 >/pol/ lets end their stormfaggotry! >unironically using ""we"" on /pol/ yeah nah",,Anonymous,,,,,1504531831 140223776,140238865,2017-09-04 13:32:09,">>140238663 He's a kike, don't worry about him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504531929 140223776,140238938,2017-09-04 13:32:54,">>140237745 Now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504531974 140223776,140241318,2017-09-04 13:54:11,"If people read _The Machinery of Freedom_, the book not the video, they will discover that I am one of the wicked open borders supporters who this group apparently does not want. The second edition is webbed at: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf",,David Friedman,,,US,,1504533251 140223776,140242044,2017-09-04 14:01:03,">>140241318 People have a right to exclude people from their property right? While I agree the nations states borders would no longer be operated by the government, in a truly free society there would be no ""open borders"" property unless a property owner explicitly allows it. The default state of property would be closed but default unless purposely expressed no?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504533663 140223776,140242901,2017-09-04 14:08:41,">>140241318 You believe it's a preferable state policy to open the borders to anyone who wants in rather than a state policy to select who may or may not be allowed in? Until discrimination laws and the welfare state is reformed I doubt that will do us very good all, and would even allow further violations of citizens property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504534121 140223776,140243218,2017-09-04 14:11:50,,,Anonymous,20799262_1489905044425830_4000730340971494524_n.jpg,szqVEFj980erdDHZh/BVFA==,,,1504534310 140223776,140244447,2017-09-04 14:23:11,"New Bread! >>140243556 New Bread! >>140243556 New Bread! >>140243556",,Anonymous,goodOldBoys.gif,EP6GODKo5kGDOQpI0MSQ8g==,,,1504534991 140223776,140245337,2017-09-04 14:31:34,"Is there truth to dual development hindrance? Or do corporations simply purchase the patents to develop themselves further for peak efficiency?",,Anonymous,1476823824071.png,y+AkxzDqAdvjWlWkhIKobw==,,,1504535494 140223776,140247588,2017-09-04 14:51:55,Bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1504536715 140223776,140248333,2017-09-04 14:58:42,">>140223776 Why aren't more libertarians in favor of machine gun ownership?",,Anonymous,hey believe not fapping will actually improve and be successful in their life.jpg,nM6x/z6EqF/2MxdydvSvkA==,,,1504537122 140223776,140249629,2017-09-04 15:10:01,">>140248333 Real Libertarians are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504537801 140223776,140250109,2017-09-04 15:14:37,">>140249629 Most Libertarians I've met aren't in favor machine ownership because it's not practical.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504538077 140223776,140250224,2017-09-04 15:15:56,">>140223912 so.. it has happened he's in prision already before any judgement? wew lads Phisical remove yourself > phisical removal of commies remember this pals",,Anonymous,step_pls.jpg,C3yffL6nH+UJSX8Ly9JZzw==,,,1504538156 140223776,140250316,2017-09-04 15:16:45,">>140223776 Does national socialism Count as ""left""? Or is it not left enough?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504538205 140223776,140250402,2017-09-04 15:17:31,"Shill thread. Real LiberNazi ACLUFront thread here: >>140243556 Shill thread. Real LiberNazi ACLUFront thread here: >>140243556 Shill thread. Real LiberNazi ACLUFront thread here: >>140243556",,Anonymous,swimming-snakes.jpg,hZtEG6d4ljwFwewuofRY4g==,,,1504538251 140223776,140250731,2017-09-04 15:21:13,">>140231539 I don't know why Keynesians are such a big boogeyman for ""libertarians"". Keynesianism isn't a broad theory of economics. They don't have any relevance in microeconomics or the theory of economic growth. It's a theory of the business cycle and nothing more. And, from what I'm told, Keynesian and monetarist theories of business cycles aren't even popular among grad school programs any more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504538473 140260826,140260826,2017-09-04 16:53:31,"NOTHING TO THE RIGHT OF FASCISTS BUT THE WALL, AND WE'RE THE FUCKING BRICKS! >Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists serious about ending the state and not just smoking weed, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists, anti-communist militants like ya boy Oscar Perez. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Locke, Smith, the Founding Fathers, Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Thomas Sowell, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /Kd2WD2X",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - DECIVILISATION EDITION,Anonymous,peak performance.jpg,gIBWtPbU3RzUknHY8wkOpg==,SK,,1504544011 140260826,140260872,2017-09-04 16:53:53,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The rightful owners of public property (including borders) are the victims of taxation. Therefore nobody can benefit from that land save for them. Eventually this issue would be solved by full privatisation, but that's still far in the future. Also we don't like brown people. >(((Capitalism))) Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >What about roads? Since companies need infrastructure to transport their goods to reach people who in turn need infrastructure for their own needs, this system of mutual dependence is the incentive for any faggot with a steamrol-nah I'm just fucking with you. (((Roads))) are the asphalt Jew that limits evaporation from the soil and gives kids autism. We take helicopters everywhere we go. >LOLBERGTARDIANS R DEGENERATE Degeneracy is a symptom of r-selected individuals within a K-selected society. Just kick them out, their high time preference and negative externalities caused by their presence and behaviour are a good enough reason for their physical removal. No trap harems for you. >What about usury? Banking marketed to ordinary folk was a mistake, so much so that even (((Rothbard))) disapproves of it. End the FED, price war now.",,Anonymous,ancom vs ancap.jpg,tak+y/8mpH2JJrwIzXo7LQ==,SK,,1504544033 140260826,140260917,2017-09-04 16:54:17,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,hoppe human trash.png,Qwszt9Py2Ku0oZvyZtPPxA==,SK,,1504544057 140260826,140260986,2017-09-04 16:55:02,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts >youtube.com/user/Morrakiu - youtube.com/channel/UCqAIvs0vAb71x_ZO10HArhA - http://morrakiu.com/ - Morrakiu of TRS and Radical Agenda INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell BANTZ TIER >Jared Howe's faceberg account Fuck Cato. Open borders for Israel.",,Anonymous,libertarianism fixed.jpg,pmEo7ejau7IanmYAsU26Hw==,SK,,1504544102 140260826,140261024,2017-09-04 16:55:26,Rand paul,,Anonymous,1501879763113.png,3CRG5UW8T/tGPc9oREimnA==,NO,,1504544126 140260826,140261143,2017-09-04 16:56:41,"ARTICLES: >Murray Rothbard - Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0 >Murray Rothbard - Race! That Murray Book - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Jeff Deist - For A New Libertarian - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - A Realistic Libertarianism - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/",,Anonymous,hoppe free good vs pest vs malicious intent.png,nlOd0aD96iDkbfLfHX4/lA==,SK,,1504544201 140260826,140261337,2017-09-04 16:58:32,"VIDEOS/PODCASTS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=-Yv9JZiaFUg >Christopher Cantwell with Wife with a Purpose - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/12/radical-agenda-ep300-dear-momma/ >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/17/radical-agenda-ep302-mike-enoch/ >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/19/radical-agenda-ep303-articulate-black-guy/ >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/24/radical-agenda-ep306-jared-howe/ >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1504544312 140260826,140261402,2017-09-04 16:59:03,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=ecVvLqSJCK8 >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=Vz_CagU5wjY >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo >Morrakiu - Agreeing with the Liberals for All the Wrong Reasons - youtube.com/watch?v=eASnXIubJEE >LE NEGRO ANARCHIST - MARCHING SONGS FOR MERCENARIES OF ALL ENTERPRISING MEN OF THE WORLD - anarchyinblack.tumblr.com/post/160501747153/radio-ancapistan-marching-songs-for-the-child",,Anonymous,hoppe pepe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,SK,,1504544343 140260826,140261454,2017-09-04 16:59:27,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1504544367 140260826,140262004,2017-09-04 17:04:10,HEIL HOPPE,,Anonymous,hoppe_.png,urrdlrmv0PcKNs6dBBRYfQ==,,,1504544650 140260826,140262619,2017-09-04 17:09:19,Threadly reminder that the killing of non-libertarians can be ethically justified as self-defense.,,Anonymous,1504398442652.jpg,0RNyhCnx0WBlV8xYi0A6QA==,,,1504544959 140260826,140263284,2017-09-04 17:15:05,">>140262619 so to speak",,Anonymous,1500839281391.jpg,D8Ono7SmcMR62/IQSubxUQ==,,,1504545305 140260826,140263565,2017-09-04 17:17:42,">>140261024 lmao the fucking look in his eyes",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504545462 140260826,140264015,2017-09-04 17:21:39,">>140260826 Daily reminder Gary Johnson is a cuck",,Anonymous,1503550225601.jpg,ywyiUDzQeNg2IFrjpem1AQ==,US,,1504545699 140260826,140264416,2017-09-04 17:25:01,,,Anonymous,1461029508928.jpg,e7vmyynlh/1tuMX84HbbpQ==,,,1504545901 140260826,140265725,2017-09-04 17:37:01,"Anyone have the political compass meme where the quadrants are Industrial Factories, Ancient Rome, Hippie commune, cyberpunk city? cheers",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504546621 140260826,140267462,2017-09-04 17:52:21,">>140260826 Honest question from /v/ cross poster, from what I've seen you guys always refer to yourselves as libertarians and not AnCaps but your ideas line up with anarcho capitalism for the most part, is there a reason for reason for this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504547541 140260826,140267599,2017-09-04 17:53:38,"Can I move to Slovakia when everything collapses here? I already have family there and won't have trouble learning the language",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504547618 140260826,140267758,2017-09-04 17:55:10,">>140267462 ""anarcho"" capitalism is a meme term almost never used by either hoppe or rothbard, it gives a false impression of us rejecting hierarchy and order which is important to capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504547710 140260826,140268086,2017-09-04 17:58:09,,,Anonymous,nothing.wrong.jpg,c153j0B+gB1Jf9ZSrV+4JA==,,,1504547889 140260826,140268183,2017-09-04 17:59:04,">>140267462 Also worth nothing this general isn't just for ancaps but also minarchists, lesser paleolibs and such",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504547944 140260826,140268472,2017-09-04 18:01:42,"Reminder you guys are fucking retards and an embarrassment to everyone else actually trying to work towards getting their freedoms back. Reminder that its true private fascism could exist in a hypothetical libertarian society, but we are not anywhere near that and in the mean time we need to all work together in order to undermine authoritarianism by replacing centralized authoritarian institutions with decentralized solutions such as bitcoin, uber, and states rights. Reminder you guys only serve to play into the hands of the liberal authoritarian left. I would not be surprised if this is a psyop by some liberal authoritarian to discredit libertarianism. Reminder that in a libertarian society people would be free to not associate with anti social racists such as yourselves and you guys would be relegated to whats know as ""the retard corner."" Reminder that you should not judge someone on their particular physiology but rather their ideas and behavior and actions. Reminder that you are posting on a containment board on an anime image forum.",,Hop fags are the worst fags,prosperity.jpg,Bj6S0zfG+IpZRBIlJ8DqRg==,,,1504548102 140260826,140268622,2017-09-04 18:02:58,">>140260826 My man Slovakia, FREE FUCKING CANTWELL, HE DID NOTHING WRONG.",,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,US,,1504548178 140260826,140268684,2017-09-04 18:03:33,">>140268472 We don't believe in ""private fascism"", tho. We believe in voluntary private city-governments who physically remove threats to the libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504548213 140260826,140268912,2017-09-04 18:05:28,">>140264416 Neat.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504548328 140260826,140268939,2017-09-04 18:05:41,">>140268472 >Left Libertarians, cosmopolitan freaks, open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. I'm tired of your shit m8, stay on Reddit please.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504548341 140260826,140269038,2017-09-04 18:06:35,">>140268684 basically private fascism and you are just embarassing the rest of us that arent anti social dick heads and playing into the authoritarian left's agenda to paint capitalists and conservatives as nazi white supremacist autistic psychopaths. Honestly i'm almost sure that the physical removal meme was a left wing psy op to discredit libertarians.",,Anonymous,skykang.jpg,uSTBJGDp5R6xeAAbC5mtfA==,,,1504548395 140260826,140269085,2017-09-04 18:07:00,">>140268472 You're a faggot.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504548420 140260826,140269144,2017-09-04 18:07:32,">The point of no return (PNR or PONR) is the point beyond which one must continue on one's current course of action because turning back is physically impossible, prohibitively expensive, or dangerous. A particular irreversible action (e.g., setting off an explosion or signing a contract) can be a point of no return, but the point of no return can also be a calculated point during a continuous action (such as in aviation). Just read this and got me thinking. You can't just save western civilization, you can't even just save your country, you can't just save your hometown. It's too late. It won't happen. >Turning back is PHISICALLY imposible >Prohibitibely expensive >Dangerous Ancapia cannot come from anything already corrupted by statism. Statism is everywhere. States only hetsitate against an equal force of destruction. We need destruction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myJA9BcgB6Q",,Anonymous,,,,,1504548452 140260826,140269168,2017-09-04 18:07:51,">>140269038 >caring about what the left thinks",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504548471 140260826,140269190,2017-09-04 18:08:05,"Just a reminder that anarcho-capitalism is a cancer within our movement and consists of people who, while their hearts are in the right place, do not fully understand the nuances of the ideas we promote.",,Anonymous,animoo tread.jpg,m7+tepso1gY13PRxS9G01g==,,,1504548485 140260826,140269314,2017-09-04 18:09:11,">>140269190 gary FUCKING johnson voter detected",,Anonymous,1500451624753.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,,,1504548551 140260826,140269415,2017-09-04 18:10:12,">>140269314 >he thinks anarchy is in any way sustainable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504548612 140260826,140269539,2017-09-04 18:11:17,">>140269415 >he ends his greentext with a period",,Anonymous,,,,,1504548677 140260826,140269640,2017-09-04 18:12:12,">>140268939 K so just more of the same authoritarian bullshit. No one will want to live in your shitty retard corner private city except other loony psychos such as yourself. Reminder that the creativity a society emits is directly proportional to the amount of comfort eccentric individuals have in the society. The reason stone buildings and writing appeared at the same time that agriculture was developed was because men that werent fit for hunting or fighting had time to use their creativity. There is a reason why artists and muscicians are often very eccentric. Reminder that hitler made it hell on earth for creative eccentrics and all the jewish atomic scientists fled to the US and worked on the US atom bomb. Reminder that you are a NEET autist and in a society that values ""traditional conservative extremism"" you would have a swift kick in the ass if you stayed home shitposting on 4chan all day. Reminder that the only reason that you blame people less fortunate than yourselfves for your own personal failures is because your ego cannot accept your own shortcomings and you think some magical right wing ferry is going to grant you self confidence. Meanwhile all you beta faggots would just be bullied around by meathead skinhead faggots.",,EINSTEIN WAS SO DEGENERATE OMG,SUCH_DEGENERACY.jpg,FuiRwUV1A9+eSZGrfJIh4A==,,,1504548732 140260826,140269661,2017-09-04 18:12:28,">>140269038 None of us here are anti-social dickheads playing into the left's game. We want to form and live in a society that reflects our values (free markets, social conservatism, community values), i.e. a right-libertarian society. It's not my fault whites are the only ones interested in this stuff. Also, Hoppe came up with ""physically removed"" in his 2001 book, it's not a left-wing psy-op. Please explain me how what we want is akin to private fascism. >fascism: totalitarianism, extreme collectivism, mixed market, ""everything for the state, nothing against the state"", imperialism, public welfare, worship of an authoritarian figure >us: private government, covenant communities, freedom of association, free market >>140269415 >monopolies on cars, food, TVs and anything else the government touches is bad except for justice and defense :^) McNuke yourself",,Anonymous,mcnuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,,,1504548748 140260826,140269691,2017-09-04 18:12:51,">>140268939 Liberty will only be attained in a healthy, high-functioning, homogeneous, high-IQ society. We must use all the means at our disposal to achieve such a society. This must include bringing about closed borders and a reversal of White Genocide. Brown people are largely not interested in freedom. Autistic ""libertarians"" don't understand this. Fortunately, nobody really listens to them. Normies look to respectable, noble people to follow. Those with good families, high social norms and a pro-social agenda will win out, if there is truly a free market of ideas.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504548771 140260826,140269741,2017-09-04 18:13:15,">>140268472 You have been lied to by Statists who don't know shit about Libertarianism other than muh weed, muh gay weddings, and continued State gibs for favored multinationals in the ""free market"". There's no fascism possible without the coercion of the State. Accepting that people have a right to live their lives does not mean every lifestyle should be accepted on a personal or community level. Wake up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504548795 140260826,140269884,2017-09-04 18:14:51,">>140268472 >and in the mean time we need to all work together in order to undermine authoritarianism Not by pandering to leftists. This only allows retards such as Sarwark to take over our movement and pretend that libertarianism is not about private property but about being tolerant. >Reminder that in a libertarian society people would be free to not associate with anti social racists such as yourselves and you guys would be relegated to whats know as ""the retard corner."" Reminder that mostly white communities would be way more prosperous than multicultural communities, when people migrate, they don't migrate to the mostly brown countries. Imagine what will happen when land owners realize their property value multiplies by discreetly banning certain races from their property. >Reminder that you should not judge someone on their particular physiology but rather their ideas and behavior and actions. Reminder that this is your personal opinion and libertarianism is not about dictating what others should judge.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504548891 140260826,140270199,2017-09-04 18:17:47,">>140269038 >Honestly i'm almost sure that the physical removal meme was a left wing psy op to discredit libertarians. Congratulations on outting yourself as a fuckwit",,Anonymous,1500451410888.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,,,1504549067 140260826,140270272,2017-09-04 18:18:33,">>140269640 >We need degeneracy to further allow people like Einstein the communist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504549113 140260826,140270362,2017-09-04 18:19:16,">>140269691 Yeah I agree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504549156 140260826,140270458,2017-09-04 18:20:05,">>140269884 >Reminder that mostly white communities would be way more prosperous than multicultural communities, when people migrate, they don't migrate to the mostly brown countries. Imagine what will happen when land owners realize their property value multiplies by discreetly banning certain races from their property. Exactly. The only reason they're not doing it right now is government tyranny. It is illegal to have racial/ethnic restrictions on property. Restrictive covenants have been banned. A libertarian order is a race-realist order.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504549205 140260826,140270464,2017-09-04 18:20:06,">>140269661 You must surely realise that a state is an inevitability as we can not rely on human good will not to form their own and so we should uphold it in a way which it is accountable to the people and its job is to ensure that all living within it have personal liberty and follow the NAP. >>140269539 Sorry, I'll go uneducate myself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504549206 140260826,140270547,2017-09-04 18:20:57,">>140260826 >Timothy McVeigh",,Anonymous,123123123123123123213.jpg,rJ5MYgvNaRdO3WAQgPzVKQ==,CA,,1504549257 140260826,140270698,2017-09-04 18:22:29,">>140269038 >physical removal Do you even know what hoppe actually meant by that?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504549349 140260826,140270734,2017-09-04 18:22:51,">>140270464 You must surely realise that the Mafia is an inevitability as we can not rely on human good will not to form their own and so we should uphold it in a way which it is accountable to the people and its job is to ensure that all living within it have personal liberty and follow the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504549371 140260826,140270797,2017-09-04 18:23:30,">>140270458 And currently you need to assume the costs of other communities anyway so the difference from living around brown people and not living around brown people is quite minor other than property devaluation due to degeneracy/noise/crime. If the money you spent on security was used only within your gated community, for example, people would literally beg to enter mostly white communities.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504549410 140260826,140270865,2017-09-04 18:24:09,">>140270272 ""Degenerates"" are often the people that are the most creative. Have fun in your cardboard starched white boring ass stale ass retard corner. Oh wait that is nothing but a pipe dream and all you are doing is helping the divide and conquer tactics the authoritarians are using. >>140269661 your conservative values exclude people based on arbitrary phsyical traits like what medications they take or the color of their skin and not their ideas or behavior or actions. No one wants to work with or associate with someone who is such a prejudiced dickhead and you would be relegated to your own retard corner where creativity would be lacking. Not to mention it's illogical and unethical. Two things which libertarians should strive for. Your longing for traditional conservative autism probably stems from the fact you were never invited to parties and never got laid and grew to resent people having fun and you began to project your own failures onto those less fortunate than yourself.",,Anonymous,witch1.png,dzGbyA8WVfO3aJx+VMVU1A==,,,1504549449 140260826,140270882,2017-09-04 18:24:16,">>140270464 >we can not rely on human good will not to form their own https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb8nJauOq_8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTcr--Z8460 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=picMiUhVfH4 How can you make a state accountable to the people if the state, by its very nature, is a coercive and monopolistic institution? How can you expect it not to devour society? >inb4 Constitution Yeah, look at the US. AoC replaced with the Constitution; Civil War meant to crush secessionists; immense federal debt; creeping federal government This leaf here >>140270458 knows what's up.",,Anonymous,[refutes praxeologically].png,WgtOR9jRb4blFTmClJrmmQ==,,,1504549456 140260826,140271017,2017-09-04 18:25:32,">>140270882 2nd Amendment",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504549532 140260826,140271059,2017-09-04 18:25:50,">>140270865 You're the same poster from the other day and you're just regurgitating the same bait. Either you're a troll or extremely naive. Read Hoppe and go fuck yourself.",,Anonymous,decentralization.png,/qpBa22Z7Qc9bb9cJhQGlA==,,,1504549550 140260826,140271126,2017-09-04 18:26:27,">>140269691 Painfully obvious truth. All intelligent libertarians grow out of it eventually, or redefine libertarianism until it looks 99% like aristocracy/monarchy.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1504549587 140260826,140271143,2017-09-04 18:26:35,">>140270734 This is literally the most retarded thing I've ever heard. The reason the mafia is not inevitable in the way the state is is because for a mafia to be what we consider to be a mafia it must violate the NAP, which I'm sure we can all agree is something that, whether it be an armed militia, a private citizen or indeed the state, something will and must stop.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504549595 140260826,140271172,2017-09-04 18:26:54,">>140270865 He thinks Degenerates are ""creative.""",,Anonymous,Girls.png,6caAIt8fubiCHJ/YJVGxsQ==,US,,1504549614 140260826,140271234,2017-09-04 18:27:25,">>140270698 it meant that people he judged by superficial traits would be excluded by his larp society the free helicopter rides and phsyical removal memes are almsot surely a leftist psyop and if theyre not they still serve their purpose masterfully and scare away people who would otherwise be in support of libertarianism it fits their agenda because they are telling minorities and gays and other eccentric people that they need a strong central authority to protect them from evil white nazis boys like yourself. Good job supporting authoritarianism.",,Anonymous,mummy.jpg,SGiyA1tKVSMM3a0vQH2mjQ==,,,1504549645 140260826,140271315,2017-09-04 18:28:17,">>140260826 Paleolibertarian here. Am I wasting my time in this country? There doesn't seem to be any way to salvage it. Then again, nowhere in Earth seems salvageable.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1504549697 140260826,140271330,2017-09-04 18:28:25,"What got you fully on board with ancap vs minarchy or classical liberalism? Also, would you side with the alt right against the left or let them kill eacother?",,Anonymous,IMG_20170904_182638.jpg,Fz5GYbHCNNoVUddaf2oLQg==,,,1504549705 140260826,140271380,2017-09-04 18:28:51,">>140271143 This is literally the most retarded thing I've ever heard. The reason the State is not inevitable in the way the Mafia is is because for a State to be what we consider to be a State it must violate the NAP, which I'm sure we can all agree is something that, whether it be an armed militia, a private citizen or indeed the mafia, something will and must stop",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504549731 140260826,140271434,2017-09-04 18:29:20,">>140271234 >it meant that people he judged by superficial traits would be excluded by his larp society No moron, it meant that people who break contracts of behavior within private property should be kicked. Good job being against private property.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504549760 140260826,140271445,2017-09-04 18:29:24,">>140271172 Yeah none of the music in the 1960s was good at all? Art is gay lol xDDddd Literally as soon as tribes developed enough surplus for people to sit around all day and be ""degenerate"" that is when writing and stone structures were developed.",,Anonymous,lofi_smugo.jpg,9yyncjTl9uZ8eBU7rwJyCg==,,,1504549764 140260826,140271446,2017-09-04 18:29:24,">>140270458 Bingo. Leave it to the populations of man to decide who they associate with and who they don't.",,Anonymous,1488774930759.jpg,eRJvmmQKqYQhpJd5Ng9CcQ==,,,1504549764 140260826,140271463,2017-09-04 18:29:33,">>140271126 >or redefine libertarianism until it looks 99% like aristocracy/monarchy. You're essentially correct, Hungarianbro. But it's not ""redefining"" libertarianism; it's stripping the term away from all the corolary nonsense and bullshit (""tolerance"" for drugs, promiscuity, degeneracy) and boiling it down to what it is: private property. And once you realize private property is all it means, the rest follows (traditional families, aristocracy, voluntary monarchy, private governments). Good luck with your migrant fences btw. >>140271315 You guys got a good and steady ancap movement growing. If I'm correct, ancap is actually dominant over simple minarchism over there. You should help your libertarian countrymen.",,Anonymous,hoppe on nuclear family.png,Lo7/z0ZK4MrZZXXuqURbZg==,,,1504549773 140260826,140271535,2017-09-04 18:30:15,">>140271330 >What got you fully on board with ancap vs minarchy or classical liberalism? I never had a reason to lean towards the state vs. none, which I suppose just means I didn't take the popular view of government in yet.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504549815 140260826,140271557,2017-09-04 18:30:25,">>140271330 The right, they are the side that respects the idea of private property",,Anonymous,1503673444575.jpg,l1Z0CJKLAfnOQqx68VMRtw==,,,1504549825 140260826,140271586,2017-09-04 18:30:41,">>140271059 Yeah and I will keep reminding you faggots how wrong you are everytime I get around to it. You are literally supporting authoritarianism good job. Your meme society is never going to exist at this rate.",,Anonymous,hehhheh_smug.jpg,7EVNm2eLVrwevJBwXdQCjw==,,,1504549841 140260826,140271661,2017-09-04 18:31:25,"If anyone's interested in a libertarian discord server discord gg/hZynWz",,Anonymous,1499027928192.jpg,6CjUZ4WItis6Sxc2fwS7Dg==,,,1504549885 140260826,140271666,2017-09-04 18:31:33,">>140271330 Realizing I would be inconsistent if I regarded the state inefficient at providing market goods and yet perfectly suitable to provide defense and security. It also doesn't help it is the state that is creating a business and moral environment for families to disintegrate and companies to become monopolies. I'd side with the alt-right.",,Anonymous,cantwell.jpg,GsAicDPtPhMK+BqS836QrA==,,,1504549893 140260826,140271709,2017-09-04 18:31:59,">>140271445 >Thinks all art is the product of Degenerates >Thinks the 1960s was nothing but hippies This is what 8th graders and cuckedtarians actually believe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504549919 140260826,140271734,2017-09-04 18:32:15,">>140271463 Yeah, libertarianism as a whole is growing extremely fast in Brazil, and most of them are ancaps. Austrian economics as a whole is getting very popular here. I still doubt ideas can save anything. Hoppe said that democracy is prone to go bankrupt, and he seems to be right. Brazil's institutions - most like any democratic country's - are going bankrupt. This will be amusing to watch, especially to see what is going to sprout out of this dystophic nightmare, but the commies will probably acquire even more momentum.",,Anonymous,mug-4.png,w+W/tXZImNOgg2YCgsPDFQ==,BR,,1504549935 140260826,140271776,2017-09-04 18:32:44,">>140260826 He's going to prison guys.",,Anonymous,Cantwell's Lawyer.jpg,TgKCN7TYUxLVOxZBztq36w==,,,1504549964 140260826,140271834,2017-09-04 18:33:27,">>140268086 has bodycam footage of everything. I bet it'll reveal he's 100% NAP Compliant",,Anonymous,,,,,1504550007 140260826,140271894,2017-09-04 18:34:04,">>140271557 Even in spite of national socialism? I mean it allows for private property to my knowledge, but it still advocates for invoulentary redistribution.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504550044 140260826,140271928,2017-09-04 18:34:28,">>140271734 Godspeed and I hope it all turns out alright. May based God Bolsonaro expel all the communists, and may his fuckups pave the way for the ancap social order. ""Menos Marx, Mais Mises"" as you say. >>140271776 >those digits fugg",,Anonymous,cantwell.webm,72dN/LmAyYCasRdh4Nd1RA==,,,1504550068 140260826,140271945,2017-09-04 18:34:41,">>140270882 Hoppe is relying on the fact that a person with power would act in favour of a public good rather than his own good, and his own good would be to enforce his will and protect his private interests, most likely using force to protect his business/source of power, directly going against the ideal of the free market. those three videos seem to be calling for what I am, a state or form of governance where in a powerful entity steps in to protect from tyranny but does not medal in private affairs, it only protects the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504550081 140260826,140272078,2017-09-04 18:35:55,">>140271894 The enemy of my enemy...",,Anonymous,1477540611854.png,+Rc88FC6sdlk6zGD26OYEg==,,,1504550155 140260826,140272081,2017-09-04 18:35:56,">>140269314 I'm getting to the point that anybody who doesn't argue for total anarchy is a Sarwarkian cuck Tom Woods/Dave Smith 2024",,Anonymous,,,,,1504550156 140260826,140272095,2017-09-04 18:36:04,">>140271330 Minarchism as defended by Bastiat is interesting at first glance. If you are OK with the way the law works at the status quo you might be OK with minarchism. There are, however, authors that study the possibility of a diffuse Law. They claim it might be much more efficient than a centralized one. As a law student I fully agree and I see potential in this. Furthermore, a small state is prone to grow as you see in history, that's why minarchism is prone to fail. I wish I could say I wouldn't side with the alt right but I probably would, /pol/ corrupted me beyond fixing, ideally speaking though they are statist scum",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1504550164 140260826,140272110,2017-09-04 18:36:15,">>140271380 I see there is no point arguing with you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504550175 140260826,140272150,2017-09-04 18:36:38,">>140271945 He's saying a monarch would take better care of his country because he's intelligent enough to realize his parasitic Crown would prosper more under a free market with low taxes, contrary to a high time preference democracy where the goal is to loot the country as fast as possible.",,Anonymous,ancap gf.jpg,mUglVlmcHlxWr6gCBSRh1w==,,,1504550198 140260826,140272252,2017-09-04 18:37:36,>>140272078,,Anonymous,1504182625558.png,Zuk2QkJeRdk0QlJMRW3A4A==,,,1504550256 140260826,140272272,2017-09-04 18:37:52,">>140260917 Man, Hoppe is brutal some times.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504550272 140260826,140272284,2017-09-04 18:37:59,DEATH TO COMMUNISTS,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504550279 140260826,140272315,2017-09-04 18:38:17,">>140271234 No, it's in the context of a covenant - a community who come together to live by a contractually agreed set of social rules. Physical removal was for those who habitually break the rules - could range from social shunning, to expulsion from the community. Hoppe likened it to excommunication",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504550297 140260826,140272358,2017-09-04 18:38:50,">>140271945 >Hoppe is relying on the fact that a person with power would act in favour of a public good rather than his own good Either you didn't understand the bare essentials of Hoppe or I did not understand the bare essentials of Hoppe. I'm fairly sure Hoppe follows austrian economics and says that every single person is ""selfish"", as in, they just want to work for their own good. The catch is that by doing that they end up working for the greater good even if they are not aware of that. To say that someone in a position of power would, by their own nature, sacrifice themselves for the ""greater good"" is absurd and just plain false as observed in history",,Anonymous,bullshit.jpg,hEW4j8zsdsCIk9yWn00w6A==,BR,,1504550330 140260826,140272384,2017-09-04 18:39:04,>>140272252,,Anonymous,1481420686127.jpg,+qgINobbjHDYNY4F8uwL5g==,,,1504550344 140260826,140272486,2017-09-04 18:40:09,">>140271945 You can have authority without a mandatory government, because, believe it or not, most people are willing to subject themselves to some rules and enforcement of said rules in a voluntary manner. Say you have private city A, where killing is not prosecuted, and private city B, where people need to sign away their right of freedom of movement in case they murder someone, where would you rather buy your property?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504550409 140260826,140272524,2017-09-04 18:40:29,">>140270458 >>140269884 >Reminder that mostly white communities would be way more prosperous than multicultural communities, when people migrate, they don't migrate to the mostly brown countries. Imagine what will happen when land owners realize their property value multiplies by discreetly banning certain races from their property. >Reminder that this is your personal opinion and libertarianism is not about dictating what others should judge. Reminder correlation does not equal causation and you are almost so retarded you think that melanin is what causes people to have low IQ. Racism is considered anti social in this day and age and your racist larp city would have only the most ass backward autists and inbred hicks living in it because all the smart people would want to live in a place absent of those abhorrent social policies. There are plenty of smart black people and functional drug addicts and a society that is open to those people will have an advantage by having an increased selection of creativity and ideas. Your cities would be at a disadvantage by excluding people based on logical fallacies. IQ is based on familial traits passed down form generation to generation. There are black ancestral lines that have formed high IQ individuals. Race is not the causation that causes them to be less intelligent. And drug addicts can learn to use drugs in a way that negates consequence and even Dr. Drew has admitted that drug addicts tend to posses traits that make them better at certain things like art and music but also all creativity. THERE IS AN EVOLUTIONARY REASON WHY PEOPLE HAVE ADDICTIVE PERSONALITIES. Your larp anti social retard corner city will be at a disadvantage because there will be less creative people there and people will avoid you like the plague because you are immoral and unethical. There are other ways of hedging against negative character traits that dont involved being private hitler 2.0.",,Anonymous,1504394711831.png,OtPXXJkaTBfCFZy9kC3FfQ==,,,1504550429 140260826,140272547,2017-09-04 18:40:49,">>140272272 I like the part where Hoppe says that State welfare ends up creating morally and **GENETICALLY** (!!) inferior individuals, which is terrible, and it'd be almost unbearable if not for the fact that these inferior individuals usually develop high criminal rates between themselves, and, as result, end up killing each other, which controls their numbers and makes the situation bearable. I think he says that at the very last page of chapter IX of Democracy. Love this one so much.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1504550449 140260826,140272652,2017-09-04 18:41:41,">>140260826 Constittionalism is statism. The founding fathers weren't anarchists",,Anonymous,,,,,1504550501 140260826,140272693,2017-09-04 18:42:08,">>140272547 Literally the best book ever written.",,Anonymous,hoppe masses.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,,,1504550528 140260826,140272763,2017-09-04 18:42:47,">>140272524 So you want a non-racist covenant that doesn't penalise drug use? Fine, create it. Don't tread on me, I won't tread on you.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504550567 140260826,140272826,2017-09-04 18:43:18,"Cap-fash pride, worldwide",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504550598 140260826,140272889,2017-09-04 18:43:56,">>140272150 A monarch is still a human with private interests and so one with no accountability would be in a scenario where they could enforce their tyranny for the sake of their interests, where as a democracy is directly accountable to the populace and so could not exercise tyranny, provided the existence of muh constitution or something else that prevents the elected government from getting rid of elections. >>140272358 It is possible that either or both us do not understand. >To say that someone in a position of power would, by their own nature, sacrifice themselves for the ""greater good"" is absurd and just plain false as observed in history This is literally the point I was trying to make.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504550636 140260826,140272897,2017-09-04 18:44:03,">>140272315 And you faggots would exile people based on illogical factors such as physical traits and brain chemistry which would make you less fit than a community that only judges people based on logical performance variables. Worst of all is that you faggot pieces of shit discredit libertarianism in general and scare away the people that would benefit the most from it and who this should appeal to. Good job supporting authoritarianism and being the ultimate useful idiots and further dividing people seeking to restore freedoms.",,Anonymous,smug.gif,9Ja/JboegflrauZh1A3jDg==,,,1504550643 140260826,140272918,2017-09-04 18:44:16,">>140272524 Who says the cities will be excluding anyone? Have you wondered whether or not the market would ""by itself"" segregate the races based on the subconscious or conscious purchasing choices made by customers? It's like you don't know what covenants were in the US.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504550656 140260826,140272958,2017-09-04 18:44:40,">>140269661 this",,Anonymous,when..jpg,N9NlG6BUGCbINq1RTAkR3A==,,,1504550680 140260826,140273119,2017-09-04 18:46:09,">>140272763 My covenant would judge people only on their outward behavior and I would still have low rent housing available to even the worst kinds of humans so I could mine them for particularly creative individuals that would pop up from time to time. But this is hypothetical larp society. RIGHT NOW WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO UNITE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WANT MORE FREEDOM NOT SCARING THEM AWAY SO THEYLL TURN INTO MARXISTS.",,Anonymous,giveup.jpg,op8HphrxiaFiemqyttquwA==,,,1504550769 140260826,140273182,2017-09-04 18:46:45,">>140272763 The funny part is that it wouldn't work for too long Racism - which is actually ""natural segregation"" - and the acknowledgment of a natural order - which necessarily penalizes drug usage - are two essential components of a libertarian society Which doesn't mean they can't try creating a covenant under these rules. Of course they can. This is simply a prediction that it'll probably fail, based on the study of human nature and praxeology.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1504550805 140260826,140273272,2017-09-04 18:47:36,"niggers constantly vote for communism Remove nogs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504550856 140260826,140273316,2017-09-04 18:47:58,">>140273119 If you're trying to build a machine it wouldn't be wise to pick bad parts. I refuse to associate with degenerates, it's just a waste of time.",,Anonymous,1435437314274.gif,xzQDOhDxgbnpHsg8rTXZgA==,BR,,1504550878 140260826,140273321,2017-09-04 18:48:00,">>140272889 You got it the other way around. The monarch is accountable to the people he is supposed to represent and embody. And if their interest is to have a prosperous kingdom which he one day will pass on to his heirs, his rational decision will be NOT to destroy the lives of the citizens whose market activities give rise to his taxes. Also, a democracy leads to pandering, lobbying and power struggles, the opposite of accountability to the populace. Have you read Democracy The God That Failed? Hoppe addresses your complains in the first two chapters and pretty much throughout. Give it a read if you haven't.",,Anonymous,nick land accelerate.png,WleDgjIIu3urdv6R/MMhFA==,,,1504550880 140260826,140273461,2017-09-04 18:49:33,">>140273272 They do that because they are proportionally poorer, and poor people specifically tend to vote for communism, since they rely on the state and depend on it for welfare. Instead of wasting time removing them - which will accomplish nothing - you can try reducing the state and ending welfare, it would accomplish the same point.",,Anonymous,1445994566224.png,3mICe0dY6W5Y5dzhzGIq1g==,BR,,1504550973 140260826,140273651,2017-09-04 18:51:18,">>140272918 >>140272918 Only autists like yourselves hate brown people. Most people would choose to live in an area that had the coolest people regardless of their skin color or brain chemistry. Anti social racist dickheads stick out like a sore thumb and people would avoid you like the plague. And dont pretend like all of you faggots calling for physical removal are talking about some free market organic segregation that would magically happen. Sure there would be isolated communities of retards but the most ideal communities wouldnt judge based on arbitrary phsyical traits. And the most important thing is that this kind of larping isnt going to happen any time soon and your memes are pushing people that would be our allies towards marxism which is a real threat to the free market and also things like gun laws.",,Anonymous,down_smugi.jpg,kewDuizwcb4XuEs7VufbUg==,,,1504551078 140260826,140273753,2017-09-04 18:52:21,">>140273651 I don't hate brown people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551141 140260826,140273814,2017-09-04 18:53:10,#Never #Froget,,Anonymous,AndTheBestPictureIs____SMOCAINE3.jpg,9IKlxfQ7YWs4IhTV3d59ig==,,,1504551190 140260826,140273871,2017-09-04 18:53:46,">>140273651 >le marxism boogeyman marxists would actively be pushing for free market since they believe capitalism is inherently flawed and will therefore crash as soon as it gets any sort of momentum the concept of socialism and welfare existed much before Marx, it dates back to fucking Plate and became systematically enforced through the law before Marx too",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1504551226 140260826,140273933,2017-09-04 18:54:18,">>140273119 The problem with mainstream Libertarianism is that it is terrified of scaring people away, so it rejects its core principles and builds a coalition of people who do not understand the movement. We make progress by -relentlessly- attacking threats to free association and the legitimacy of the State. Rouse people into righteous anger over the trampling of their freedoms by a criminal organization, or we'll forever be stuck being viewed as spineless, autistic moderates. As we are now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504551258 140260826,140273949,2017-09-04 18:54:30,">>140273814 >chicken nugget scoon",,Anonymous,topkek.gif,U/SMoMe1H1QGmVP0iC1oOg==,,,1504551270 140260826,140273988,2017-09-04 18:54:46,">>140273316 You wouldnt even know theyre ""degenerate"" unless you went snooping into their personal lives. There are drug addicts that you interact with in public who you would never guess have the brain chemistry that they do. And sexuality is just a random physical activity that you are taking way to much interest in as well as the color of people's skin which is just another arbitrary physical trait. By excluding people based on illogical measures you would only serve to make your community less ideal and less fit compared to more logically based communities and there would be more creativity in those communities as well. LOGIC, REASON, RATIONALITY: those are supposed to be the fundamentals of libertarianism NOT some autistic preferences that dont serve a purpose.",,Anonymous,nusmug.jpg,QjWVvC6ciObmbCIXTI+XkQ==,,,1504551286 140260826,140273991,2017-09-04 18:54:47,">>140273321 I'm always open to learning and will definitely give it a read. However, it seems to me that a monarch is only accountable in that he could lose his power at gunpoint, and I'm sure you would agree that violence should be the last resort for a functional society. As for the claim that upholding the order is in his interest we are assuming that financial is the only form of interest, it is not. For example, a monarch may be so egotistical that they would feel the need to give themselves maximum power for the sake of it and then civil war is inevitable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551287 140260826,140273998,2017-09-04 18:54:53,">>140261024 >not allowed: Reddit anarchists I though Nords were smart.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504551293 140260826,140274233,2017-09-04 18:57:14,>>140273814,,Anonymous,Sam Hyde Cycle.jpg,EpqGFCe+AkcKgo1908BKbQ==,,,1504551434 140260826,140274280,2017-09-04 18:57:32,">>140273933 No youre going to be outcast as social pariahs and people will eventually pick a new name for their movement probably. You are a thorn in the side of libertarianism. Some people mistake it for individual freedom with state rule but that is a step in the right direction no matter what and you fail to recognize that and only serve to discredit freedom in general and divide people and push them towards authoritarianism. >>140273871 Well authoritarians use ""le evil nazi boogeyman"" to convince people they need a strong central authority to protect them from autists such as yourself.",,Anonymous,pol34.png,6kLCr426/NoZSmGI3MYqVA==,,,1504551452 140260826,140274301,2017-09-04 18:57:45,">>140269314 This interpretation of Libertarianism I can get behind. I can't get behind the egalitarians that refuse to accept discrimination as an allowable idea. There needs to be some sort of defining term for this form of Libertarianism to separate it from the leftist fucks that are muddying the ideology. Free association Libertarianism? Discriminatory Libertarianism?",,Anonymous,1504507364184.jpg,fbabSAsAj7ZqsdEwcWm6Zg==,US,,1504551465 140260826,140274307,2017-09-04 18:57:51,">>140273991 >it seems to me that a monarch is only accountable in that he could lose his power at gunpoint, That's how it was in the past. Today they would also be accountable to planes and their property losing all the value they inherited through them.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504551471 140260826,140274421,2017-09-04 18:58:56,">>140273991 I see where you're coming from, so I encourage you to read Hoppe's book. You'll realize that a monarchy leads to the opposite of what you think it does, since it is logically closer to Hoppe's ""natural order."" I look forward to reading your feedback on the book. You'll see why Liechtenstein and monarchy is much better than the crap we have today.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551536 140260826,140274424,2017-09-04 18:59:00,">>140272897 But that's just voluntary association - part of the cornerstone of libertarianism/ancap. You choose who you associate with, whether that be a bunch of nazis in a white ethnically based covenant, or a bunch of blacks in a kangz themed community. Or neither, or whatever the hell else you want to do. No one is forcing this on anyone.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504551540 140260826,140274429,2017-09-04 18:59:01,">>140274307 Historically peasant uprisings have been calamitous for the populace, minus a few isolated examples.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551541 140260826,140274489,2017-09-04 18:59:43,"Why do you guys love Pinochet so much? He's almost the polar opposite of your ideology, even economically.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551583 140260826,140274505,2017-09-04 18:59:49,">Just another day in the destroyed country that once could be said to ""flourish"" with democracy and happiness , now in a state of total war , no corners in the lawless streets was safe and ideologies thrive to have any impact and bring peace to this civil war , some followers of Anarcho capitalism were prepared....Just like Ancap-Chan , a simple blonde girl that lives in a small house in the outskirts of the city daring to go there to scavange for any resources , donning a simple t-shirt with some more yellow rags to distinguish herself as a follower of such beliefs ""You should not be here......If they discover how I am just lending you a place to stay.....Someone like you...."" > Others followed more .... Extreme beliefs , just like Fashy-Chan , tanned like the brass of italian guns ,she donned a black shirt that showed some signs of blood and mud , afterall she was used to it .... Using violence to stop those that dared to bring her ""nation"" to a path of poverty and decadence ""Sì..Sì , I already know about it , yet have you not understood how times like this we have to stay united? When anarchists and .... Those red bastards unite....We too have to unite!"" > Ancap-Chan got up from the chair slowly looking into the eyes of Fashy-Chan seeking some comfort by sinking her face in her chest mourning the sadness that they lived in ""I just want to get back....Even if it wasn't what I wanted....I want to be able to eat well....To see property that is not burned or vandalized..."" > Fashy-Chan kept hugging her slowly getting a smile telling her ""We have eachother , no matter what the cost might be if anyone finds out...We will be happy to know we both fought for what we believed in , against our worst enemy , even if my nature goes against yours we fight for the common good...."" > Fashy-Chan took her Fez hat placing it on the head of Ancap-Chan that now...At least had a simple smile adorning it ""Come on Ancap-Chan , I brought some meat that I found wrapp- """,,Anonymous,,,,,1504551589 140260826,140274554,2017-09-04 19:00:25,">>140274301 What you define is what actual social liberalism was before the left conflated it with progressive dogma. Basically the gay wedding cake debate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551625 140260826,140274557,2017-09-04 19:00:29,">>140273988 This is the kind of shit that makes societies crumble. There exists something called a ""natural order"". You can perceive it by observing noise -- which consists of the elements that escape this natural order. Therefore, it is essential that you must protect the natural order. You may try making your libertarian society full of hookers and drug dealers but it really won't fly.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1504551629 140260826,140274562,2017-09-04 19:00:32,">>140274505 > Just like the speed of a fresh rifle projectile Fashy-Chan was welcomed by a strange hug from behind....Ancap-Chan refused to let it go , enjoying the company of Fashy-Chan ... Even if she didn't see her as equal in her beliefs...She learned how to see the facy of an ally in the figure of Fashy-Chan ""Promise me you will stay with me Fashy-Chan....You..You always said that we are stronger when we are united right? You can unite with me!"" > Fashy-Chan gave just a simple smile turning around to place one gloved hand in the cheek of Ancap-Chan calming her ""I will....I have been here for so long that I don't see you as an enemy...When the war ends we will probably depart in our ways....You to your land....And I will go to my nation...."" > Ancap-Chan looked a bit to the floor before she gave a determined look to Fashy-Chan ""I want to stay with you! No matter how strange or anti-pragmatic it will be , I want to stay with the black shirted girl that cares about a nation! We have our differences....But we both fight the same enemy and if that means we have to unite to kill those reds...."" > Fashy-Chan tilted her head just slightly lifting one eyebrow even before she began to realize where this was going starting to rose her cheeks just slightly as....She saw it more as a romantic advance than anything...To break her beliefs for that moment....Just to see a face of someone she might....Love? ""Ancap-Chan I...I mean we both fight those guys but...Don't you think we should just....Go to our ways and..."" > She ceased talking before she saw how the face of Ancap-Chan lighted up with a smile strangely the capitalist girl was enjoying such attitude ""You look cute when you try to protest it you know? Come on....There is nothing wrong in...Loving your allies""",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551632 140260826,140274612,2017-09-04 19:01:00,">>140274562 > The cheeks of Fashy-Chan rosed up contrasting with her tanned skin , those eyes wide open focusing on the face of Ancap-Chan , that grin settling on her face while one sneaky hand traced just a small movement on the side of the uniform of Fashy-Chan ""Oh a bit stressed for getting a bit close to a capitalist? Come on....Where is all that courage and honor ? A bit afraid to see those....Seductive lips assaulted with just some kisses?"" > The Fez of Fashy-Chan fell , she looked back to Ancap-Chan shyly looking to the side , such a proud girl being afraid to show some or any love for Ancap-Chan , she looked back to her giving a sweet smile ""Only as friends Sí ? I....I don't know if we..."" ""If we last to lovers? Come on! Two girls like us that know how to shoot and protect what they love......Come on..."" > Fashy-Chan looked to the side again closing her eyes softly forming her lips to kiss her yet Ancap-Chan just waited! Torturing the pour soul like that....Just wanting a kiss before she began to open her eye slowly seing the smug look of Ancap-Chan ""You...You cretin! I trust you like this and - "" > Out in this pure state of rage leaving her mouth open Ancap-Chan launched herself to lock her lips with Fashy-Chan , catching her offguard while she wrapped her arms around her back pushing her against the table forcing her to respond with a french kiss > Both girls began to make out , their eyes closed while they traded a soft betrayed form of love in the hidden house , the gloved hands of Fashy-chan made way to the back of Ancap-Chan's head holding it there for some more time just to enjoy the kiss....Just for some more time > They slowly broke the kiss , a small rope of their saliva dropping to the side their eyes focusing on eachother , soon they began to kiss now working a bit more in taking off their clothing , Fashy-Chan softly moaned , not used to such contacts , yet you could see the love on those Italian eyes....",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551660 140260826,140274636,2017-09-04 19:01:14,">>140274489 It's kind of a meme for the most part, but he did kill commies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551674 140260826,140274728,2017-09-04 19:02:05,">>140274424 1. YOU ARE MEMING THE WRONG MESSAGES. VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION OR NOT WE NEED BROWN PEOPLE TO REJECT AUTHORITARIANISM. 2. MANY PEOPLE WOULD NOT WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH YOU IN A HYPOTHETICAL LIBERTARIAN SOCIETY BUT *WE* *ARE* *NOT* *THERE* *YET.* HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO FIGHT AGAINST AUTHORITARIANISM?!??!? VIOLENT REVOLUTION??!?!?! WE STILL OPERATE DEMOCRATICALLY NUMB NUTZ",,Anonymous,1504389514696.jpg,ESHaneObpwERseaOuHbtAw==,,,1504551725 140260826,140274756,2017-09-04 19:02:21,">>140274489 He killed the commies and opened up the free market. Pretty good in my book.",,Anonymous,general.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,,,1504551741 140260826,140274794,2017-09-04 19:02:40,">>140274301 Hoppe libertarianism/ancap",,Anonymous,d86ba47e8a939586f517f80759b3bb4c.jpg,RSPa9Jn3SlunapaBv8rr4Q==,GB,,1504551760 140260826,140274821,2017-09-04 19:02:58,">>140269314 Thought that said Autistic Economics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551778 140260826,140274905,2017-09-04 19:03:48,">>140274301 Paleolibertarianism",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1504551828 140260826,140274924,2017-09-04 19:04:06,">>140272524 >you think that melanin is what causes people to have low IQ Nobody thinks melanin has anything to do with IQ. It happens to be the case that genetics determine your iq, and that if you have African genetics, your iq is on average going to be 15 iq points lower than a European. See? No mention of melanin. Stop moving the goalposts faggot. >Race is not the causation that causes them to be less intelligent. It actually is though.",,Anonymous,15031964267061.jpg,pbkvNoo7hhz+L9xgB37zBQ==,US,,1504551846 140260826,140274975,2017-09-04 19:04:34,">>140274421 Despite the fact I'm still not 100% convinced of your viewpoint let's say, for the sake of argument, that I am. How then do we go about implementing this society? The most obvious answer is an offshore, rapture type scenario but that does little for the poor sods let on the land and also prevents us from gaining access to the natural resources required for capitalistic ventures.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504551874 140260826,140275098,2017-09-04 19:05:55,">>140274280 The ideas are perfectly palaptable to everyday people, if we are not hateful and speak clearly and honestly. It is being terrified of public opinion that brought the Right so much woe in the past 10 years, and turned all our politicians into spineless cucks. If you continue to be obsessed with his the Left will view you, your fate is irrelevancy and inaction. Do not defend, you just lose ground slower. Instead, attack, attack, attack.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504551955 140260826,140275160,2017-09-04 19:06:28,">>140273988 You don't snoop into other people's personal lives because the state's welfare is completely abstract. You will never look face to face to the recipient of your help therefore you will never be discriminatory. Without the welfare state, with decentralized help, charity, and common property/insurances, people would be way more wary of their neighbor's behavior. I seriously think you would be the kind of libertarian who would hate the result of what you advocate for because you don't understand incentives at all.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504551988 140260826,140275187,2017-09-04 19:06:46,">>140274924 Nigeria has a higher average iq than most european countries. Why? Because they're westernized.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504552006 140260826,140275221,2017-09-04 19:07:10,">>140274557 THE NATURAL ORDER IS ONLY BASED ON PEOPLE*S ACTIONS IF SOMEONE HAS RIGHTEOUS ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOR THEY ARE NO LESSER EVEN IF THEIR PHYSIOLOGY IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS IDEAL DARWINISM WOULD NOT SELECT AGAINST ANY ARBITRARY PHYSIOLOGICAL TRAITS THAT WERE NOT A HINDRANCE SOMEHOW. PEOPLE WHO ARE DRUG ADDICTS BUT CAN CONTROL THEIR ADDICTIONS ARE AT NO LESS OF AN ADVANTAGE. HIGH IQ BLACK PEOPLE ARE AT NO LESS OF AN ADVANTAGE. SLUTTY WOMEN ARE AT NO LESS OF AN ADVANTAGE DEPENDING ON HOW THEY TAKE BIRTH CONTROL. HOMOSEXUALS OBVIOUSLY DONT BREED BUT IF THEY DID THEIR TRAITS WOULD NOT PUT THEM AT A DISADVANTAGE. THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY MATTERS IN THE MODERN WORLD IS INTELLIGENCE AND CREATIVITY. AND ALSO HOW YOU APPLY THAT CONSCIOUSLY BUT YOUR PERCEIVED ""DEGENERATES"" CAN BE EVERY BIT AS CREATIVE AS SOME STRAIGHT EDGE WHITE GUY AND ACTUALLY ECCENTRIC PEOPLE HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES OFTEN MORE CREATIVE THAN OTHERS HISTORICALLY.",,Anonymous,SUCH_A_DEGNERATE.jpg,KZmZAx6WOSrDy3GgrR7wWA==,,,1504552030 140260826,140275271,2017-09-04 19:07:39,">>140274728 Mate, to a certain extent I don't care about skin colour, I care about ideology. If someone values liberty, is no collectivist, and can make their way in a no gibs, no affirmative action, no forced diversity society - then they're welcome. Note I'm not talking about immigration here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504552059 140260826,140275325,2017-09-04 19:08:11,">>140275187 Nigeria has 67 average IQ, 7th lowest in the world, what the fuck are you smoking?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504552091 140260826,140275461,2017-09-04 19:09:27,">>140275098 HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET PEOPLE TO FUCKING VOTE FOR YOU?! YOU ARE OUTNUMBERED. WHITE PEOPLE ARE A MINORITY YOU FUCKING FAGGOT. AND YOUR IDEAS WOULD ONLY SERVE TO MAKE A COMMUNITY LESS CREATIVE ARE YOU ACTUALLY ADVOCATING FOR SOME KIND OF VIOLENT REVOLUTION CHIMP OUT? HOW WOULD THAT MAKE YOU ANY BETTER THAN SOMALI PIRATES?",,Anonymous,smugo.png,Hp1v8fI1A5SmB9ipa2cCMA==,,,1504552167 140260826,140275571,2017-09-04 19:10:27,">>140274975 I'd say, at this point, a revolution/uprising is extremely unlikely. I wouldn't trust the masses to do anything right after the French Revolution, and neither should anyone. The three other alternatives, then, are: a) the creation of new sovereign nations with seasteading technology; b) the negotiation with states to privatize certain cities (with the lure of being a potential economic gain for the state with this arrangement) and hoping that, in the end, all cities are private; c) secession of smaller political entities from larger ones (think Brexit and all other separatist/independent movements). Hoppe dedicates the last chapter of his book into explaining how this could be done. He also has a short pamphlet called What Must Be Done, which more or less lays forward the steps to achieving ancap practically. Also check out the last chapters of Robert Taylor's Reactionary Liberty. See this too: https://mises.org/blog/put-your-hope-radical-decentralization",,Anonymous,hoppe reading order.png,y7iW+h9eoLiR+ceEGhulkw==,,,1504552227 140260826,140275594,2017-09-04 19:10:40,">>140273814 (((Bernstein)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504552240 140260826,140275794,2017-09-04 19:12:28,">>140275271 THEN START MAKING MORE EFFECTIVE MEMES AND DONT FALL FOR THE PHYSICAL REMOVAL CRAP YOU NEED ALLIES IN A DEMOGRAPHIC SOCIETY WHY DO YOU FUCKING THINK LEFTISM HAS GAINED SO MUCH FUCKING POWER YOU ARE ALIENATING THE SAME PEOPLE WHO LIBERTARIANISM WOULD ACTUALLY APPEAL TO. ALSO GIBS CAN EXIST THROUGH VOLUNTARY CHARITY IN A LIBERTARIAN COMMUNITY. GIBS SUCK IN HUGE ASS SOCIETIES BUT IF EVERYONE ACTUALLY KNEW AND CARED ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS THEN PEOPLE WHO ARE IN UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD BE CARED FOR",,Anonymous,mummmyuuyuyy.png,wIik4Bcr3WtQByRbE7wmFw==,,,1504552348 140260826,140276004,2017-09-04 19:14:18,">>140275461 Calm your fucking tits and take your hand off of caps lock. Breathe in, breathe out. It's gonna be okay. First of all, whites are not yet a minority. There is still time. Second, provide evidence for your assertion that Degenerate people are more creative. And I don't mean, ""gays and drug users"", these things are not -necessarily- indicators of degenerate people. Understand that Degeneracy is high time preference, and high time preference is a burden on -all- human activity, including creating expressive beauty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504552458 140260826,140276009,2017-09-04 19:14:20,">>140275571 None of these are particularly good if I'm honest. >a, best option but I already mentioned the flaws >b, I highly doubt governments would allow this to happen >c, I hate this idea as someone from Scotland who detests the idea of Scottish independence. And the how do you get an independent Scotland/Catalonia/Flanders and Walloon to become Libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504552460 140260826,140276014,2017-09-04 19:14:22,">>140271928 he has the shittiest most nigger-tier guns i bet he doesnt even shoot",,Anonymous,,,,,1504552462 140260826,140276195,2017-09-04 19:16:02,">>140275160 OKAY WHAT ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE AND DRUG ADDICTS AND HOMOS THAT CAN ACTUALLY SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY AND ARE CREATIVE WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL LIVES?",,Anonymous,smug_Cage_face_off.gif,yK6VzatXaf8StSOZgNmBYg==,,,1504552562 140260826,140276320,2017-09-04 19:17:16,">>140275187 No you dipshit. There have been countless twin studies and studies on blacks raised in white households to prove that 'Westernizing' non-whites does not magically raise their iq to that of whites, in fact it doesn't raise their iq at all. Nigeria is one country out of dozens that has an iq comparable with Western nations. It is the exception, not the rule. Intelligence based on race is one of the few things behavioral genetics has actually proven beyond the shadow of doubt. You are naive beyond all help if you genuinely believe that blacks just need some cultural help and they will suddenly be just like whitey.",,Anonymous,1503120292210.jpg,vMteUjnMJ4nDqUVk2Bb7Kw==,US,,1504552636 140260826,140276387,2017-09-04 19:18:05,">>140276009 a) may be flawed, but the concept has been finalized and the Seasteading Institute has already signed a deal with the French Polynesia to have a floating libertarian society by 2020 b) see above; also see SZEs and charter cities c) the smaller the political unit and the more competing political units there are, the less they can afford to be bloated or overly taxing, since they are competing for customers",,Anonymous,,,,,1504552685 140260826,140276617,2017-09-04 19:20:02,">>140275187 Only the Igbo have IQs, and even that might be cherry picked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504552802 140260826,140276648,2017-09-04 19:20:21,">>140276195 If they can support themselves, have a low time preference and match the -values of the community-, they are fine. Let me say that again, in case you missed it, because this is critical. The values of the community. Low time preference. Why would you want to associate with people who don't share your values? What right do you have to tell me who I can and cannot associate with?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504552821 140260826,140276722,2017-09-04 19:21:01,">>140272897 >says all this >looks at american suburbia >white people using mass zoning laws, ordinances, Home owners associations to discriminate based on monetary achievement(basically only white and asians). >private schools >plays out just like ancapistan using property prices >White people form high achieving enclaves all over the USA >other races have these enclaves and they enforce their cultures in those enclaves >poorer whites are denied this luxury. >Would like to give poorer whites this luxury >evil racist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504552861 140260826,140276785,2017-09-04 19:21:34,">>140276009 >And the how do you get an independent Scotland/Catalonia/Flanders and Walloon to become Libertarian? Smaller countries lead to bigger territorial competition, as it is easier to vote with your feet. This leads to economic optimization and therefore more libertarian options. The EU is the enemy of this concept. >>140276195 Why do I care about degeneracy? Mostly because if I was forced to associate with them I would need to assume the costs of their degeneracy. Higher health insurance premiums, noise, dirt, bad influence on my children, higher security costs, etc. That's why I would be wary of who I associate with, because I want to enjoy the benefits of living in a society without having to assume the costs of living in a forced association with degenerates. I'm not a racist, I'm an IQist, which tends to make me look like a racist due to genetics.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504552894 140260826,140276845,2017-09-04 19:22:04,">>140261402 Might I recommend Scissorfight's ""Granite State Destroyer"" be added to the music section?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504552924 140260826,140276904,2017-09-04 19:22:27,">>140276320 I was aware of the Polynesia thing. Okay, so were is a political entity too small? If everyone in my house agrees to independence it isn't allowed to be it's own nation. I don't think we should base borders on walls built 200 years ago that haven't been used as a border in 100s of years. This is why states/constituencies/councils exist, to make the government as small as possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504552947 140260826,140276992,2017-09-04 19:23:25,">>140276004 >provide evidence for your assertion that Degenerate people are more creative. MUSICIANS, ARTISTS and the fact that writing and stone building occurred at precisely the time that agriculture was invented allowing men that would not be hunters or warriors to be creative. Degeneracy is a subjective term but in this day an age all that matters is technology and creativity. If you look at the tech industry people there often have ""unhealthy"" habits like drug use or poor dietary choices and they are arguably the most important type of people and will only become more important as manufacturing becomes automated and even agriculture becomes automated. If you are living on some kind of seastead floating city the prime resource at your disposal is brain power and you should not care how those people come up with their ideas and how they code their programs and whatnot. The only thing that matters is peak creativity. Soon traditional skills might be considered ""degenerate."" And already masculinity has become less popular.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504553005 140260826,140277183,2017-09-04 19:25:27,">>140276992 All those habits are enabled and encouraged by the welfare state. If you remove the cons from leading an unhealthy lifestyle by socializing costs people tend to lead unhealthy lifestyles. You're literally talking about human behavior without analyzing the incentive modifications in place that the state causes.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504553127 140260826,140277330,2017-09-04 19:26:57,">>140274728 >We need brown people to reject authoritarianism Stop pls It's also a plus if you fags don't want to associate with me, I don't want to associate with you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504553217 140260826,140277359,2017-09-04 19:27:15,">>140276904 The Prince of Liechtenstein passed a law that allows villages and cantons to secede from Liechtenstein if its residents wish to. He also wanted to make it possible for individuals to secede (!) but could not have it passed. >If everyone in my house agrees to independence it isn't allowed to be it's own nation. True, but you'll still be signed to a private defense agency (to uphold law and order) and to an insurance provider (to deal with conflicts and premiums on property damage). So while you and your housemates could either be all under the same insurance company and yet live in the same voluntary community (the size of which would depend on the marketability/desirability of said community preferences), or belong to different, competing insurance agencies and yet live in the same territory.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504553235 140260826,140277556,2017-09-04 19:28:58,">>140276992 Question, how long do you think it would take a health insurance to realize that they can cut costs and gain a huge portion of the market by discriminating against drug users? Without the socialization of mixing healthy people with the drug users, what would the costs of drug-enabling insurances be? All these points you're ignoring largely affect human behavior and this is why you cannot comprehend our point of view, the trees are not letting yo see the forest.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504553338 140260826,140277794,2017-09-04 19:31:08,">>140276992 You seem to be deeply confused with what Degeneracy is. It is not subjective, and when we Libertarians talk about it we have a specific objective meaning. Degeneracy is not taking drugs, though often people who do are degenerate, yes. Degeneracy is not sticking your benis in another dude's hole, though in our modern society people that do are usually degenerate. Degeneracy is high time preference. Symptoms are wanting something now rather than later, or with as little effort as possible or for ""free"", or regardless of the negative long term consequences on yourself and others. Degeneracy is counterproductive to human survival. It leads to stagnation and suicide.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504553468 140260826,140278002,2017-09-04 19:33:01,"This thread could use some aesthetics. This is the Prince of Liechtenstein, and he's practically an AnCap.",,Anonymous,glitchr_1504535969000.jpg,uRDNRYfpXAnIsqkFwYlaeQ==,US,,1504553581 140260826,140278106,2017-09-04 19:34:04,">>140278002 >that fucking image thank you so much anon",,Anonymous,R O T H B A R D.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,,,1504553644 140260826,140278176,2017-09-04 19:34:45,">>140276195 Blacks: higher testosterone combined with lower intelligence means more criminals. Faggots: pedophilia, which I don't need around my kids. Drug addicts: Nobody wants to be an addict. These people need help, not encouragement to do it more. >>140276904 Hell if I know, borders change all the time. The Soviet Union fell within a week, give the US another decade or two and see what happens. There are borders within borders, there is a reason in lots of cities you don't go to certain sections. That is an unofficial border. Luxembourg, Monaco, and Switzerland are very tiny, and yet they still exist. I'm not even a libertarian, just flirting with the thread and the ideas. People like >>140276992 are why libertarianism isn't particularly appealing. Many are unrealistic and utopian in their thinking. Reminder that America was built by and for Europeans. >>140274728 This guy is one of the few intelligent browns hoping that whites are going to drag minorities along against authoritarianism. Too bad faggot, we tried already and concluded that you lot can't accept the ideas, which is why we're in this shithole situation in the first place. Communists can't divide you along racial lines when there is only one race. USA is the largest White state in the world, we just have a bunch of minorities living here too. Balkanize and move along.",,Anonymous,853b0e1c1585f5dfaf3b6e96e0f3a173--usa-usa-stay-classy.jpg,F/XipWM0q9nSoHPxR6LWeQ==,US,,1504553685 140260826,140278245,2017-09-04 19:35:32,">>140274301 Paleolibertarian for sure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504553732 140260826,140278357,2017-09-04 19:36:28,">>140276722 Youre falsey associating race with IQ. Those communities form because of intelligence and creativity and earning potential. There are hardly anyone actually checking the color of people's skin when they buy a home. Correlation does not equal causation. >>140276785 >I'm not a racist, I'm an IQist Youre wrongly assuming the importance of race and you are also discriminating based on factors that you wouldnt even know of if you didnt snoop into their personal lives. There are people that outwardly show their problems but you do not hear about drug addicts that hide their addictions for a fucking reason. >>140276648 >Why would you want to associate with people who don't share your values? IM NOT. But focusing on the physical removal memes do not gain you popularity or help libertarians in general. Low time preference makes sense i guess but you have your cart before you horse right now and libertarians need public allies, not association with white supremacists and nazis. >>140277183 FINE but altruism has benefits as well. If you can provide cheap housing and then mine those residents for brain power and creativity using computers you will have additional resources that other people would not. >>140277556 The insurance company would BENEFIT by understanding that some drug users can use their drugs and satisfy their brain chemistry WITH NO NEGATIVE HEALTH CONSEQUENCES. It is false logic to assume all drug users are problem users. You would be missing out on extra income if you did not include healthy drug addicts in your insurance pool!!! A competing insurance company could spring up literally just to serve drug addicts that know how to use drugs in a way that doesnt hurt their health. Opiates are not toxic by themselves for example and there are opiates that are incredibly hard to overdose on as well. >>140277794 K the edge masters on this forum dont define degeneracy that way, but you can harvest high time pref's brain power/creativity.",,Anonymous,anime_terminal.png,zoej+80SARqU6XUtO037MQ==,,,1504553788 140260826,140278549,2017-09-04 19:38:15,">>140275221 What's this fixation in ""functioning drug addicts"" do you know any junkies? I know plenty, none of them are functioning. If you want to force me to accept everyone indiscriminately then it is YOU who are the authoritarian. Why do you reject free association?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504553895 140260826,140278607,2017-09-04 19:38:39,Glitchy Ron Paul quote,,Anonymous,PicsArt_09-02-09.19.43.jpg,aWyZKSfRNM0sUE3hHCYfuw==,US,,1504553919 140260826,140278698,2017-09-04 19:39:31,">>140276195 Why the fuck do you care who I chose not to associate with YOU FUCKING COMMIE.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504553971 140260826,140278740,2017-09-04 19:39:54,">>140278176 Youre an illogical retard. And DRUG ADDICTS ARENT ALWAYS ABLE TO RESTORE NORMAL BRAIN FUNCTION WHEN THEY QUIT SO LEARNING TO MANAGE THEIR ADDICTIONS IS BENEFICIAL FOR SOME OF THEM. MY EX EMPLOYER IS A MILLIONAIRE AND HE MANAGES DOZENS OF PEOPLE AND HAS CONTRIBUTED LOTS OF MONEY IN TAXES AND HIS DEMEANOR IS SHARP AS FUCK AND I NEVER SUSPECTED ANYTHING BUT ONE DAY HE REVEALED TO ME HE IS A DRUG ADDICT AND JUST LEARNED TO MANAGE HIS ADDICTION BUT HE HAS TRIED TO QUIT SEVErAL TIMES AND HIS BRAIN NEVER WENT BACK TO NORMAL HOMEOSTASIS. IT IS NOT LOGICAL TO MAKE VAST SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS. THAT COULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED DEGENERACY BY SOME. ALSO IM NOT A FUCKING BLACK PERSON OR A DRUG ADDICT.",,Anonymous,white4.jpg,81k9swnRwh30PicVrPCdGg==,,,1504553994 140260826,140278908,2017-09-04 19:41:33,">>140260917 Could hoppe have been partly Asiatic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504554093 140260826,140279042,2017-09-04 19:42:44,">>140278698 >>140278698 I WANT YOU TO HAVE YOUR OWN RETARD CORNER SO WE CAN ALL HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO BUT RIGHT NOW YOU ARE MAKING ALL THE NON RACISTS NON AUTIST NON PSYCHO LIBERTARIANS LOOK BAD BY MEMING LIBERTARIANISM AS PRIVATE FASCISM AND DRIVING NORMIES INTO THE AUTHORITARIAN'S AGENDA WHICH IS TO DISCREDIT INDIVIDUALISM AND ARGUE THAT MINORITIES NEED STRONG AUTHORITY TO PROTECT THEM FROM EBIL NAZIS.",,Anonymous,pol4.jpg,F4R6dKkrFI9PcK1JUMRUHQ==,,,1504554164 140260826,140279253,2017-09-04 19:44:46,">>140278740 >>140279042",,Anonymous,1503119340507.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1504554286 140260826,140279310,2017-09-04 19:45:15,">>140279042 And I feel like you make us look like retards, so why don't you let us have our retard corner and fuck off back to your retard corner.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504554315 140260826,140279354,2017-09-04 19:45:36,">>140278357 The ""Edge masters"" are breaking it down this way as shorthand. They -do- define it this way, and when you realize what the definition is it becomes starkly clear who is and isn't Degenerate in our modern society. Unlike Leftists, we don't constantly engage in ""Not all X are Y""! yelping because we are terrified of being seen as immoral. Morality and good policy don't arise from the whims of the mob, especially not one turned into caged, degenerate animals by an overbearing State. Which leads me to your bit about physical removal memes. Remain soft and concerned with popular opinion, be obessed with what other people may think of you, and you -will not- change society for the better. You will be swallowed by the mass.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504554336 140260826,140279363,2017-09-04 19:45:43,">>140278357 >The insurance company would BENEFIT by understanding that some drug users can use their drugs and satisfy their brain chemistry WITH NO NEGATIVE HEALTH CONSEQUENCES. It is false logic to assume all drug users are problem users. You would be missing out on extra income if you did not include healthy drug addicts in your insurance pool!!! When looking at numbers, drug users tend to lead unhealthier life styles by a big margin, this is factual. Companies are discriminating, they cannot go case by case looking at how you can control your addictions, so broad-stroke generalizations help them crunch the numbers. Would a company going case by case be able to offer lower costs than one generalizing? Maybe, but maybe also they would need to waste so much money on investigation that they'd increase costs through that so generalization would be more cost effective.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504554343 140260826,140279664,2017-09-04 19:48:37,">>140278740 >drug addict >drug user Which one of these describes your acquaintance. Is he addicted if he controls it, you stupid utopian? Stop typing in all caps, schitzo. >his brain never went back to normal homeostasis lol. He got exposed to a high that he can never get in normal life, which fucked him over forever. Druggies talk about this regularly. It is not a lack of homeostasis. He just wants to feel that level of happiness again, which can never be achieved by normal existence. This is why you never try something on the level of heroin even a single time. >it is not logical to make vast sweeping generalizations Only it is. You do it all the time. When I see drop something I assume it will fall to earth. Quite a sweeping generalization.",,Anonymous,92d63f6c2f3ff2fff94639c5e193e1ad.jpg,3fsILsxFrf/X7iS6rU7Dkw==,US,,1504554517 140260826,140279755,2017-09-04 19:49:25,"Anybody else a fan of T? https://youtu.be/l2-jH1vFrW8",,Anonymous,,,,,1504554565 140260826,140279853,2017-09-04 19:50:19,Words to live by,,Anonymous,Dale Gribble telling it like it is.png,6jUN4qX0iLcQOIxF9nF8AA==,US,,1504554619 140260826,140280047,2017-09-04 19:52:09,">>140279755 I like him. Pretty funny, and insightful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504554729 140260826,140280124,2017-09-04 19:52:53,">>140279755 He's cool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504554773 140260826,140280172,2017-09-04 19:53:17,">>140278549 You'd be surprised mate, I was a white collar smackhead for years, and there's plenty of us about. Just like not all allies are sat on park benches with bottles in paper bags.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504554797 140260826,140280223,2017-09-04 19:53:46,">>140280172 *alkies ffs",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504554826 140260826,140280232,2017-09-04 19:53:46,">>140279755 He tends to regurgitate arguments you can read here but I can't help but feel that this video does not quite grasp how libertarianism can offer fascist covenants without needing to retort to an authoritarian necessity. All he needed to explain is that people can do whatever the fuck they want within their property, and maybe go a bit into market incentives and why they would lead to certain behavior patterns being preferred and more cost efficient.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504554826 140260826,140280246,2017-09-04 19:53:57,"Can someone tell me how faggots are harming the ""libertarian order""?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504554837 140260826,140280476,2017-09-04 19:56:02,">>140280246 In what context? Do what you want to do, just don't try and force it on me - and don't live in a straights-only covenant.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504554962 140260826,140280514,2017-09-04 19:56:20,">>140280246 Also what does the ""libertarian order "" mean ?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504554980 140260826,140280599,2017-09-04 19:57:10,">AND THE COMMUNIST TRAITORS AND LEFTIST VERMIN FILTH MUST BE PHYSICALLY REMOVED WITH FORCE, LOADED UP INTO THE CHOPPERS AND THROWN OUT INTO THE FUCKING SKY what did peaceful libertarian activist Christopher Cantwell mean by this?",,Anonymous,Cantwell4.jpg,F4J4ojSi2lFbnkeoM5hclQ==,,,1504555030 140260826,140280613,2017-09-04 19:57:19,">>140279664 >Which one of these describes your acquaintance. Is he addicted if he controls it, you stupid utopian? Addict, he fucking got addicted when he was 13 and his brain never was the same despite several attempts to quit and staying sober for years one time. He had post acute withdrawla syndrome and couldnt think clearly. His drugs just allow him to feel NORMAL. No pleasure or any euphoria and his drug habit is no different than drinking a cup of water or smoking a cigarette. He doesnt like it but it doesnt affect him negatively but the problem is that he is a criminal by default just because of his physiology. >lol. He got exposed to a high that he can never get in normal life, which fucked him over forever. Druggies talk about this regularly. It is not a lack of homeostasis. He just wants to feel that level of happiness again, which can never be achieved by normal existence. This is why you never try something on the level of heroin even a single time. Youre a moralizing retard. Most people got hooked when they were very young and opiates literally change your brain and cause opiate receptors to up regulate. There is no guarantee that an opiate addict will feel normal when they stop and some people suffer years of Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome (PAWS.) They are not immoral people by default and simply need to take medication just like we need water and food. You wrongly demonize these people and maximize the damage they cause society by putting them in such a tough position. Prohibition has historically been shown to be a colossal failure. There are better ways to help drug addicts and that means allowing them to make their own choice when it comes to their body. No doctor can ever determine what the subjective experiences are of their patients so they wrongly treat them based on dogmas and lies perpetuated by a puritanical society. This guy just has to take a pill everyday to feel NORMAL. He gets no ""high.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1504555039 140260826,140280676,2017-09-04 19:57:59,">>140279363 Well at the very least then all the non problem drug users could form their own health insurance company or another could pop up to serve that segment of the market.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504555079 140260826,140280714,2017-09-04 19:58:20,">>140280246 Theyd be fucking up a Libertarian social order that specifically prohibits homosexuality. We're seecessionists, we can never agree on the same order, and because you may find it necessary to include homosexuals in your society, we think it would be a Libertarian solution to self segregate and not allow fags in our community and you can have all the ones we don't want.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555100 140260826,140280716,2017-09-04 19:58:20,"In your utopian hoppean society, how large do you think your convents are going to be?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504555100 140260826,140280738,2017-09-04 19:58:32,">>140280599 he was talking about a self defense situation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555112 140260826,140280891,2017-09-04 19:59:54,">>140280714 Why don't you want them in your society, how are they harming others?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504555194 140260826,140280939,2017-09-04 20:00:18,">>140280514 A Libertarian social order is a voluntary community, think of it as ""muh social contact"" but we expect an actual agreement to the terms before you can join our community. And so if we say ""no fags"" you have to respect our right to free association.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555218 140260826,140280996,2017-09-04 20:00:52,"Commies will still see you as a Nazi. Libertarianism was an acceptable means of discourse a few years ago but we are at war now. Pick a side, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555252 140260826,140280999,2017-09-04 20:00:54,">>140280716 Possibly very big.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555254 140260826,140281083,2017-09-04 20:01:35,">>140279354 >Which leads me to your bit about physical removal memes. Remain soft and concerned with popular opinion, be obessed with what other people may think of you, and you -will not- change society for the better. You will be swallowed by the mass. K radicalist. LETS SEE HOW FAR THAT TAKES US. GUESS WE HAVE NO CHOICE CAUSE YOU IRRATIONAL PSYCHOS ARE JUST GONNA KEEP MEMING THAT BULLSHIT NO MATTER WhAT NOW THAT THE LEFTIST PSYOP IS COMPLETE. >>140280599 Yeah wow such a great message that is going to garner so much support from the masses. Good job mr cantwell. Its not like he just associated libertarianism with domestic terrorists or anything. Good thing we dont live in a democratic society so public opinion doesnt matter... oh wait.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,dswgORbaKWXzUw4PJYN3Hg==,,,1504555295 140260826,140281166,2017-09-04 20:02:14,"Reminder that humans naturally group up to form governments and any who don't are conquered just like the hunters and gatherers. Reminder that government doesn't have to be negative.",,Anonymous,Libertarian Problems.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,,,1504555334 140260826,140281181,2017-09-04 20:02:21,">>140280891 They are harming the value system is prefer to associate in. You wouldn't force me to accept homosexuals, communists, and gibsmedat nogs would you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555341 140260826,140281230,2017-09-04 20:02:50,">>140280891 He's a closeted fag so he cant have any distractions.",,Anonymous,superhotchickomg.jpg,CUjh66CLKVBRkVCkYcgOcg==,,,1504555370 140260826,140281331,2017-09-04 20:03:50,">>140280996 I don't care if they see me as a Nazi for following my conscience.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555430 140260826,140281422,2017-09-04 20:04:42,">>140280999 Like whole countries? So your just renaming the ""state"" a ""conveant"" and ""taxes"" ""subscription fee""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504555482 140260826,140281438,2017-09-04 20:04:51,">>140280246 Usually they tend to have a low time preference. They also tend to pursue lower paid careers (not lesbians, lesbians have higher than most women, I assume it has something to do with test at birth but it's an assumption). Higher medical costs (although not that much, since many are gym/diet oriented) in general too. I personally don't think I'd oppose living with homosexuals in a private city, but I wouldn't think twice if a health insurance that discriminated against homos offered a cheaper service. >>140280676 By all means, I'm not saying they would be completely left to die or something, I'm just saying they would assume higher costs for their habits, government pays a big role into enabling and encouraging certain habits and lifestyles and it should be carefully considered. Insurance is only one, there's the possibility of private cities that don't tolerate drug use in public/hard drugs in private to be more cost efficient as well, as drug users tend to have lower IQ and are more prone to crime, launching costs of private security. So they would have to pay more for their houses, too.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1504555491 140260826,140281456,2017-09-04 20:05:02,">>140260826 >Cantwell is facing 60 years in prison. What the fuck?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1504555502 140260826,140281483,2017-09-04 20:05:20,">>140281230 Why must I accept fags? What aggression have I committed by having a non egalitarian preference?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555520 140260826,140281501,2017-09-04 20:05:26,">>140280996 The leftist psyop is complete. You guys will only serve to drive people towards authoritarianism from now on.",,Anonymous,oh_smug.jpg,HVmZK08v3453ZfIPwBdZdQ==,,,1504555526 140260826,140281603,2017-09-04 20:06:23,">>140281181 I wouldn't force you I'm just asking you why you personally don't like them?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504555583 140260826,140281628,2017-09-04 20:06:37,">>140281422 Yes, but by free association, rather than force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555597 140260826,140281717,2017-09-04 20:07:29,">>140260826 Really sucks about Cantwell. I miss his content. Shit was so cash",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555649 140260826,140281735,2017-09-04 20:07:39,">>140260826 bump",,Anonymous,,,,,1504555659 140260826,140281764,2017-09-04 20:07:50,">>140281438 >drug users tend to have lower IQ Absolutely false. http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/15/why-kids-with-high-iq-are-more-likely-to-take-drugs/ You will lose creativity by discriminating agaisnt eccentric individuals.",,Anonymous,1500.jpg,4LhTugXGJf5F600Dq1YEng==,,,1504555670 140260826,140281816,2017-09-04 20:08:16,">>140280613 No one is talking about Prohibition. That is the State dictating what you can or can't do with your body. If you want to live in a covenant that allows drugs, that is fine. No ancap is going to jail you or try to kick down your door or seize your drugs by force. You will have to sign a contract stating that if you want to live in certain places where people don't want drug users, you can't use drugs. Instead you have to settle somewhere else where people share your values. If you break that contract, you'll be escorted elsewhere.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555696 140260826,140281860,2017-09-04 20:08:41,">>140281717 He is an embarrassing wart on the penis of liberty.",,Anonymous,penis_marx.jpg,QtjfkfKJgekAIvw6Mma04Q==,,,1504555721 140260826,140281864,2017-09-04 20:08:44,">>140281628 So if all land is owned by conveant and a person is banned from all the other conveants because say they ban ginger hair, he is forced to pay your subscription fee or get killed?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504555724 140260826,140281869,2017-09-04 20:08:49,">>140281603 I don't like their alternative degenerate lifestyle, I don't want my children to grow up around these mentally ill freaks. And yes I get it ""BUT WHAT IF THEY'RE NOT AIDS RIDDEN COMMUNISTS!?!?"" I don't care, id prefer not to have them in my community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555729 140260826,140281893,2017-09-04 20:09:07,">>140260826 >>140281488",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504555747 140260826,140281928,2017-09-04 20:09:32,">>140268939 There is no such thing as a ""left libertarian"" , retard thats an oxymoron",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555772 140260826,140282040,2017-09-04 20:10:40,">>140281864 Yes, he'd be physically removed from civilization because the world finds him intolerable. Tho, to not be a total retard, I doubt every community would ban Red hair.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555840 140260826,140282157,2017-09-04 20:11:58,">>140281860 Necessary evil given the times we find ourselves in. No other way than physical removal of commies. Sorrynotsorry",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555918 140260826,140282220,2017-09-04 20:12:35,">>140281928 There are people that are ""socially"" liberal. Basically all non autist edge masters.",,Anonymous,spooky_smug.png,Kfbhqvgnn4dWiyY16wVl4w==,,,1504555955 140260826,140282269,2017-09-04 20:13:03,">>140281928 Left Libertarian in the more Rothbard meaning, AnCaps who are egalitarian retards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504555983 140260826,140282306,2017-09-04 20:13:23,">>140282040 That doesn't sound that libertarian, if he doesn't have any liberty to make his own choices without getting chucked out of helicopter that doesn't agree with his morality",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504556003 140260826,140282353,2017-09-04 20:13:51,">>140281928 Commies don't want government, so ""true communism"" would technically be just that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504556031 140260826,140282442,2017-09-04 20:14:43,">>140282157 You're only hurting your own political movement. You are playing to the narrative authoritarian leftists are pushing that a strong central authority is required to protect against nazis and racists. SO yes I think the leftist psyop is officially complete and there is no hope for libertarianism until people start colonization of mars.",,Anonymous,2deep5m3.jpg,98HwX9KWCLXmvbW4hB+1XA==,,,1504556083 140260826,140282444,2017-09-04 20:14:46,">>140282306 Do you have a right to force a property owner to exclude people with red hair? Rejecting property rights when it hurts your feels isn't very Libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504556086 140260826,140282512,2017-09-04 20:15:21,">>140282444 *Include",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504556121 140260826,140282621,2017-09-04 20:16:18,">>140280613 Again, sound like he got fucked by the drugs. His brain is unable to experience happiness like a normal person due to drug use. Which he should never have been on. He is 'addicted' in the same sense a person on heart medication is 'addicted'. The guy can function just fine. The everyday definition of 'drug addict' is someone who forgoes their everyday life in favor of the drug, the kind of person that kills their family for drug money and winds up dead in a ditch penniless. Your guy is medically, technically, addicted to the drug, not addicted in the popular sense. >prohibition has been shown to be ineffective. Not incorrect, but what is your solution? Sell the stuff legally so more will try, leading to more people that need it just to function? Denmark has opened up places to legally shoot up and have drugs tested in, which is an improvement over the alternative, but it isn't helping the root problem. That problem being that nobody should ever even have the opportunity to try the stuff recreationally, because it leads to a lower quality of life. Just telling people 'you can buy opiates in the corner store, but you really shouldn't' isn't going to fix the issue, because evidently there are still people that have bad enough judgement to try it anyway when its already illegal, fully aware of the consequences of both law and addiction. Trying to prevent people from doing something objectively negative is not what I would consider infringing on their liberties, it is trying to prevent them from losing their liberties to opiate addiction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504556178 140260826,140282780,2017-09-04 20:17:53,How do we get out of the larping on 4chan phase to into actually having hoppean conveants phase?,,Anonymous,,,,,1504556273 140260826,140282813,2017-09-04 20:18:09,">>140282220 Socially liberal is a meaningless term in Libertarianism. Libertarianism is concerned with property, not whether you like or dislike gays/drugs/whatever. It is ethics, not morality. Learn the difference. The reason why there are no Left-Libertarians is because that philosophy -always- leads to violation of property rights due to non-discrimination etc, and ultimately to an authoritarian State that enforces specific moral values.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504556289 140260826,140282888,2017-09-04 20:18:54,">>140282621 Sorry, but who is anyone to tell me what I can or can't put in my own body? The difference in a libertarian society is that you then own the consequences of your decisions.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504556334 140260826,140282942,2017-09-04 20:19:33,">>140276014 >ar and ak >two most prolific guns in the world are shitty",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504556373 140260826,140282960,2017-09-04 20:19:47,Nigs will nog,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504556387 140260826,140283055,2017-09-04 20:20:54,">>140282220 >Want to live in a traditional community free of drug abuse and homosexually Edgy >Feel the need to promote homosexuality, drug use, and anti traditional values. Not edgy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504556454 140260826,140283101,2017-09-04 20:21:18,">>140282780 Attack the legitimacy of the State. Support secession and de-centralization wherever possible. When ancapistan props up in one place, probably through secession, competitive pressure will force States to de-regulate and will destroy their legitimacy with their citizens.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504556478 140260826,140283228,2017-09-04 20:22:43,">>140283101 >When ancapistan props up in one place Won't happen.",,Anonymous,Libertarians and Ancaps ready to be overrun by commies.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,,,1504556563 140260826,140283434,2017-09-04 20:24:44,">>140281928 Muh means of production!",,Anonymous,I7TSQ8t.jpg,MNbgpFg/UcK4Ipffpudhmw==,,,1504556684 140260826,140283516,2017-09-04 20:25:31,">>140283101 So you suggest people try to succeed by force against the most powerful government in the world, Wouldn't focusing your energy on getting anti-discrimination laws revoked and letting you all have your utopian all white all the same values communes",,Anonymous,,,,,1504556731 140260826,140283608,2017-09-04 20:26:27,">>140282621 >trying to prevent people from doing something objectively negative is not what I would consider infringing on their liberties, But it 100 percent is. And it's not harmful to my friend for example because he needs it to feel normal and doctors are not able to accurately judge who needs them and who doesn't. Should we ban motorcycles and gangster rap as well? There are ways to hedge against stupid behavior other than prohibition like educating people better. Relying on prohibition is very fragile and will fall like a house of cards inevitably because there is always going to be a cheaper/easier way to produce drugs in the future. What happens when they bio engineer some process to make opiate production available to the average teenager? There needs to be stronger communities and better education and also teaching drug addicts how to use like my friend does in a way that does not harm him or the community. Part of the problem is that drugs are or used to be expensive and drug dealers would target young teenagers as customers to pay for their own measily habits. The most important thing is to protect teenagers from experimenting and also to tell people not to rely on doctor's authority so they wont get hooked on pills. Doctors almost took out one of my organs by mistake and they surely prescribe opiates when they dont need to but the problem is the general public trusts authority so much. Imagine a society where absolutely NO teenagers are able to get their hands on opiates, and adults could get them but there was a small hoop to jump through to get them so that random depressed or hungover people dont try them and only the stupidest of the stupid try them by mistake. And also doctors have other tool available to treat pain that we should research. And then the only people that would really be taking pain killers are those who got hooked as teenagers but couldnt get their brains to go back to normal and they should hide their addictions.",,Anonymous,mummuuu4.png,/df7fTeOPMo4TQ1nzaM/4Q==,,,1504556787 140260826,140283637,2017-09-04 20:26:41,">>140283516 *Be a better idea",,Anonymous,,,,,1504556801 140260826,140283826,2017-09-04 20:28:34,"Anybody think that decentralized currency could kick this off? There is no real coercive behavior in terms of cryptocurrency, so maybe the state will dissolve on it's own over time. Just a theory.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504556914 140260826,140283865,2017-09-04 20:29:01,">>140272081 Kokesh/Perry 2020",,Anonymous,,,,,1504556941 140260826,140283873,2017-09-04 20:29:07,">>140283516 We should do both, revoking anti discrimination would make it more possible to form our own communities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504556947 140260826,140283967,2017-09-04 20:29:54,">>140283865 Are you high? Kokesh is a retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504556994 140260826,140284326,2017-09-04 20:33:22,">>140283516 The question was ""how do we get to ancapistan"", not ""how do we create a more libertarian society in the short term.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504557202 140260826,140284358,2017-09-04 20:33:38,">>140282621 >the kind of person that kills their family for drug money and winds up dead in a ditch penniless. I dont know 100 percent for sure but I think that if this guy didnt learn how to use in a ""controlled"" regimented manner and also didnt have the creativity to become successful then he very well might do something like deal drugs to support his addiction. The problem is that drugs are artificially expensive so there is an INCENTIVE for addicts to get others hooked so they can exploit them for money. That is a huge reason that people got addicted to oxy about 10 years ago and I remember drug dealers literally parking in our school parking lot and offering oxycontin to teenagers walking home from school. Giving drug addicts education on how to control their use and hide it from the rest of society would help but segregating them would cause the same black markets and such to happen in the non ghetto areas. The solution really is to work with the people already addicted and decrease their burden to society. Also with a healthier economy the amount of dispair would decrease and there should be better private schools that protect teenagers when they are likely to engage in risky behavior. Also if teenagers get better education and take pride in their technical field or creative en devours they are less likely to resort to partying and drugs. The bottom line is that you cannot weed out drugs by brute force and history has proven this. The methods used to create opiates are getting smaller and cheaper and soon there will be fentnyl lab kits sold (im guessing i have no actual idea.) Any effort to strengthen the cat will only make a more resilient mouse. The game needs to be ended once and for all and asymmetric means need to be investigated in how to deal with the problem and then everybody can have their cakes and eat them to.",,Anonymous,nk77.jpg,DVtJoaWghxRoFSVDPj4KQQ==,,,1504557218 140260826,140284494,2017-09-04 20:35:08,">>140284326 His answer still stands, AnCapistan is all about decentralization. Pursue that till the end.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504557308 140260826,140284558,2017-09-04 20:35:35,">>140283873 Revoking the Anti-discrimination laws seems a lot more likely than a few internet virgins rising up against the united states government, even in my country the bongistan, the favourite for succeeding Nigel Farage in ukip wants to abolish our equivalent of the Civil Rights act(he's nigger though so /Pol/ won't like him)",,Anonymous,,,,,1504557335 140260826,140284682,2017-09-04 20:37:02,>>140271557,,Anonymous,20841742_289404584798760_1577036842794472592_n.jpg,MVXV4zdG+GqYxzqcS0g/Bw==,,,1504557422 140260826,140284905,2017-09-04 20:39:12,">>140284326 Creating a more libertarian society will make it easier to make ancapistan though. And appealing to the kind of people that have been wronged by authority is a good way to gain allies. I spoke to a drug counselor about statistics and he told me that about 1 in 10 people have sought treatment for some kind of substance abuse in the United States and of those people 1 in 10 learns to use drugs in way that prevents negative health effects and another gets completely sober. Appealing to the 1 percent of people that are functional drug addicts, and probably feel wronged by the state, would be a good way to get allies in libertarianism desu. The problem is when you guys act like edge master fascists and it turns people away right into the arms of the authoritarian left which tries to appeal to the same kind of people with government welfare and the likes. When you guys act like edge master physical removal trolls it just looks like private fascism and serves to further divide people and negates a good source of allies and also prevents organizing online for example.",,Anonymous,l_southern.jpg,ufv3CBUMPvb8810sz7xrPw==,,,1504557552 140260826,140285721,2017-09-04 20:47:20,">>140284558 Revoking anti discrimination is gonna be that easy, those niggers ain't gonna give up that easy. And btw I love the nige.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504558040 140260826,140285774,2017-09-04 20:47:57,">>140285721 Isn't* But I'm all for pursuing that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504558077 140260826,140286073,2017-09-04 20:50:45,">>140272078 go on fucking try it i fucking dare you",,Anonymous,p5xdrhyiptny.jpg,x6KfnHpER9jIh2UjmxOm8A==,,,1504558245 140260826,140286088,2017-09-04 20:50:51,">>140285721 Neither is taking on the united states government If the whole southern united states government can't how do you expect you to do it",,Anonymous,,,,,1504558251 140260826,140286459,2017-09-04 20:54:28,">>140285721 >implying black people are what is preventing you from succeeding Good job coming up with excuses for your own personal failures.",,Anonymous,heh_smug.png,UtdEQ/e7PUWhI810qewhNQ==,,,1504558468 140260826,140286558,2017-09-04 20:55:23,">>140286459 nigger detected",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504558523 140260826,140286596,2017-09-04 20:55:47,">>140285721 >Hates black people >Likes nige What?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504558547 140260826,140286977,2017-09-04 20:59:31,">>140286558 >underage b& reported",,Anonymous,,,,,1504558771 140260826,140287068,2017-09-04 21:00:26,">>140260826 Isn't that the crying Nazi?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504558826 140260826,140287243,2017-09-04 21:02:17,">>140286459 I think black people prevent us from undermining anti discrimination laws, can't you read?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504558937 140260826,140287320,2017-09-04 21:03:00,">>140287068 Yes he is embarrassing libertarians around the globe and supporting authoritarianism and helping the left complete it's psyop of painting libertarians as private nazis.",,Anonymous,smugu.jpg,ZG617wqPnMrXzSGQgMFyOA==,,,1504558980 140260826,140287382,2017-09-04 21:03:31,">>140286596 Confused right? Maybe you should consider I'm not an evil monster. I don't want to kill black people, I just don't want to live in the same neighborhood as them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504559011 140260826,140287516,2017-09-04 21:04:51,">>140283873 >>140287243 >evoking anti discrimination would make it more possible to form our own communities. sure.. legitimately curious, how old are you?",,Anonymous,classic_smug.png,ni8op3AyQoIMuKFKPGouKw==,,,1504559091 140260826,140287552,2017-09-04 21:05:12,">>140287320 Hold the fuck up. I think I know who this is. Are you the trap loving Canadian or Brazilian? Be real with me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504559112 140260826,140287728,2017-09-04 21:06:59,">>140287516 Have an actual argument to counter that? There are anti discrimination laws in the USA, they prevent free association. Therefore removal of these laws would better enable free association. You don't have an actual argument against this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504559219 140260826,140287739,2017-09-04 21:07:04,">>140287382 But nige is unbearably civic when it comes that kind off thing He has a call in radio show now lbc if someone trys to say something like ""we should stop Muslim immigration"" he will say ""not all Muslims"" ,hes not even that right wing for his party",,Anonymous,,,,,1504559224 140260826,140287869,2017-09-04 21:08:29,">>140287739 Ok, he's free to have his views. So he won't be allowed in my ideal community. I can still like him, I can still visit him in civicuck land.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504559309 140260826,140287888,2017-09-04 21:08:36,">>140287739 He also gave trump alot of shit for his travel ban",,Anonymous,,,,,1504559316 140260826,140288029,2017-09-04 21:09:57,">>140260917 Thank you Slovakbro. Getting on these books asap. I just finished The Road to Serfdom a few weeks ago. Excellent book.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504559397 140260826,140288110,2017-09-04 21:10:53,">>140287552 nope >>140287728 >hurr durr the niggas are the reason why we cant do anything Sure it's good for freely associating but your laser beam autistic focus on black people is illogical.",,TRAPMASTER69420,flerp.jpg,QKPZYOT3jOqLVJNFViq0KA==,,,1504559453 140260826,140288117,2017-09-04 21:10:58,">>140287888 Nice trips, again you don't have to agree with me on everything for me to like you. I may agree with Trump's immigration policy more, but I actually like nige better all around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504559458 140260826,140288136,2017-09-04 21:11:07,">>140283967 I am high, but that doesn't make Kokesh a retard",,Anonymous,,,,,1504559467 140260826,140288194,2017-09-04 21:11:42,">>140268939 >Left Libertarians You mean libertarians....",,Anonymous,libertarian coinage.jpg,THmwADKaaYa+kMZb/tvV0Q==,,,1504559502 140260826,140288248,2017-09-04 21:12:20,">>140260826 This shit again? Fuck off, Fed. sa ge",,Anonymous,1504473218507.png,dCNDxC++SRC+iVGkMOV9Lg==,,,1504559540 140260826,140288257,2017-09-04 21:12:26,">>140281928 HOLY SHIT! YOU'RE RETARDED!",,Anonymous,,,,,1504559546 140260826,140288316,2017-09-04 21:13:05,">>140288110 Care to refute my claim? Black people stand in the way of removing anti free association laws that they believe benefit them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504559585 140260826,140288336,2017-09-04 21:13:16,">>140268472 I understand your position, but I disagree. Or better said, I agree we must replace centralized authoritarian institutions, but the only way of achieving TRUE freedom is through armed secessionist movements.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504559596 140260826,140288881,2017-09-04 21:18:45,">>140288110 are you retarded? why are you making it about black people? anti discrimination laws prevent free association, as it white people are not free to hire exclusively white people, and gays have successfully punished people for not baking cakes, again preventing christians from freely associating with exclusively christians in business. do you see how this prevents us from building communities?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504559925 140260826,140288922,2017-09-04 21:19:03,">>140288316 You can still make a libertarian community but you just have to include black librarians. (kinda)",,Anonymous,same_faggot_different_era.jpg,ub3/D2kr2OrjwQefnmScuA==,,,1504559943 140260826,140289168,2017-09-04 21:21:12,">>140260826 HAIL CANTWELL!",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504560072 140260826,140289211,2017-09-04 21:21:35,">>140288922 > you just have to include black librarians. I HAVE to? Who's gonna make me? The state?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504560095 140260826,140289613,2017-09-04 21:25:36,">>140289211 yes you need lots of black librarians",,Anonymous,download (16).jpg,0UI/ZSjNB+2rcLAl67KsNA==,,,1504560336 140260826,140290263,2017-09-04 21:32:14,">>140289613 HELLO? Answer the fucking question. I've answered yours all fucking day. Who's gonna force me to include blacks and fags?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504560734 140260826,140290476,2017-09-04 21:34:33,">>140290263 The State",,Anonymous,,,,,1504560873 140260826,140290541,2017-09-04 21:35:08,Any good places to start or things to watch if I want to learn more about paleoconservatism?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504560908 140260826,140290605,2017-09-04 21:35:46,">>140290476 Yes, but I want the fag I replied to to admit it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504560946 140260826,140290794,2017-09-04 21:37:39,">>140290541 'Mussolini a-go-go' or ""Individualism Through State Power, the Musical""",,Anonymous,,,,,1504561059 140260826,140290913,2017-09-04 21:38:45,">>140290541 Pat Buchanan is the only Paleo conservative I know.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561125 140260826,140291232,2017-09-04 21:41:52,">>140290794 I don't give a shit about muh individualism, I care about property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561312 140260826,140291442,2017-09-04 21:43:50,">>140291232 >property rights the states property, for the homeland? gas for you",,Anonymous,,,,,1504561430 140260826,140291579,2017-09-04 21:45:03,">>140291442 No, private property. You're projecting your assumptions on me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561503 140260826,140291601,2017-09-04 21:45:12,">>140290605 Omg u implied that Negros are holding back libertarianism in general and white communities. Discrimination should be allowed but blaming black people also makes you look stupid. >We should do both, revoking anti discrimination would make it more possible to form our own communities. You can form your own communities that are libertarian but supposedly you have to include black librarians. Any time anons think that somehow an all white community would shoot up to the stars and be the ultimate prosperous civilization solely based on the fact theyre white it makes them look illogical and dumb. I realize that you may not have only meant that but it was partially implied. Also look how friendly and nice Levar Burton looks. He for sure would be mad chill and a nice addition to any community, unless he is a commie.",,Anonymous,download (17).jpg,30RzgJmPxNQs2XypTU6H0Q==,,,1504561512 140260826,140291758,2017-09-04 21:46:36,">>140291579 Are you one of those (L)ibertarian Fascists?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504561596 140260826,140291787,2017-09-04 21:46:53,">>140268622 He pepper-sprayed some people attacking him and deserves life in prison.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561613 140260826,140291872,2017-09-04 21:47:42,">>140291601 >Discrimination should be allowed. Then we're good here, I don't care if you think I look stupid, I think you look stupid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561662 140260826,140292031,2017-09-04 21:49:09,">>140291872 Why should a private business or community not be allowed to discriminate on who gets in?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561749 140260826,140292140,2017-09-04 21:50:25,">>140291758 I've never identified as a Fascist, because I despise the state and socialism/corporatism. I do however have some reactionary views and would choose not to associate with people who oppose my views.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561825 140260826,140292270,2017-09-04 21:51:34,">>140291787 >people attacking him >He deserves life in prison",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561894 140260826,140292295,2017-09-04 21:51:43,">>140291872 Well it would be nice if libertarians could organize more effectively online.... Kinda hurts the whole political movement when there are a bunch of edgy teenagers calling themselves libertarians and focused intensely on race. For the millionth time, we are still operating in a democracy and there are plenty of cool brown people, gays, and drug addicts that would make good allies for the cause. Just because most people of a certain group are dumb or unchill doesnt mean there isnt 1-10 percent of them that are actually intelligent and good people that could contribute.",,Anonymous,based.jpg,jfTX1wl/6/xzA0etfYsUJg==,,,1504561903 140260826,140292339,2017-09-04 21:52:05,">>140260826 >NOTHING TO THE RIGHT OF FASCISTS BUT THE WALL, AND WE'RE THE FUCKING BRICKS! The fuck is up with these (((threads))) Definition of fascism 1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition Definition of libertarian 1 : an advocate of the doctrine of free will 2 a : a person who upholds the principles of individual liberty especially of thought and actionb capitalized : a member of a political party advocating libertarian principles",,Anonymous,DSCF1003b.jpg,8Vpu3ZpmAwFJKfSk60/+zg==,,,1504561925 140260826,140292365,2017-09-04 21:52:17,">>140292270 I think Anon was being sarcastic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561937 140260826,140292380,2017-09-04 21:52:29,">>140292031 I agree with you, the guy was talking to doesn't like my discrimination very much.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504561949 140260826,140292478,2017-09-04 21:53:34,">>140292140 yeah but youre ironically becoming private fascism which only serves to validate horseshoe theory",,Anonymous,political-spectrum-horsesho.png,Uk0oDjgqvFOoOVpFMY/j6g==,,,1504562014 140260826,140292560,2017-09-04 21:54:20,">>140292295 See, that's the problem, I don't identify as the same movement of you, we clearly have different values. You do your inclusive Libertarian thing, and you leave me alone so I can discriminate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504562060 140260826,140292763,2017-09-04 21:55:58,Does /lrg/ like Hazlitt?,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-31-02.06.08.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,US,,1504562158 140260826,140292841,2017-09-04 21:56:47,">>140292478 Sure, I do identify as far right in my views, but I staunchly believe in property rights and non aggression. So what's the problem? You don't like my non aggressive lifestyle?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504562207 140260826,140292975,2017-09-04 21:57:56,">>140292380 Well if you wanted to discriminate based on actions or ideas and not some arbitrary physical trait then I would be a little more supportive. Hell, even discriminating based on IQ is at least LOGICAL. But even so there are benefits to housing masses of ""unintelligent"" people because there are ways of harvesting brain power or creativity. They could be even useful for medical experiments. Imagine a giant offshore settlement of poor indians with computers and labs working towards life extension technology or working as code monkeys. Imagine millions of people hooked up to brain scanning tech that shows us what their visual cortex is dreaming. That could be used for SOMETHING. There are ways we can harness overpopulation. I agree though that forcing opposite gentrification sucks though.",,Anonymous,brain-scan-mind-reading-2.jpg,NPNkZbICGv3JUKybebbhqQ==,,,1504562276 140260826,140293113,2017-09-04 21:59:21,">>140292841 I dont like edgy teenagers making memes about violently removing people and what not and discrediting libertarianism and driving would be allies into the hands of the authoritarian left. A more organized and palatable effort would actually achieve goals other than larping on an anime imageboard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504562361 140260826,140293514,2017-09-04 22:03:21,">>140292975 >Discriminating against low iq people is logical Is it not logical to discriminate against low iq demographics, instead of using resources to give EVERY immigrant an IQ test?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504562601 140260826,140293701,2017-09-04 22:05:04,">>140293113 My views are genuine, I'm simply marketing to like minded people, that's why this thread is hosted on a known right wing basket weaving image board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504562704 140260826,140293713,2017-09-04 22:05:08,">>140293113 >discrediting libertarianism and driving would be allies into the hands of the authoritarian left wtf with these (((threads)))?",,Anonymous,unitetheright-joinordie.jpg,3VcSsm5US6phWulvYRI0vw==,,,1504562708 140260826,140293933,2017-09-04 22:07:27,">>140293514 >Is it not logical to discriminate against low iq demographics, instead of using resources to give EVERY immigrant an IQ test? huh? Screening for low IQ would be somewhat logical ofc. The logic is pretty clear.. But you know then immigrants would just ""study"" for iq tests which would defeat the purpose, but discriminating for intelligence is logical still so... I have no idea what the hell you meant cause i think you made a typo or something.",,Anonymous,littlebird2.jpg,sXFu3lG2I9qn+aH2dxbAbQ==,,,1504562847 140260826,140294002,2017-09-04 22:08:04,">>140293701 >49 posts God damn I wish Stromfort was still up. Fucking riffraff we are getting.",,Anonymous,1504303498665.jpg,tI2q7W7Q8KkGkvkN692dSA==,,,1504562884 140260826,140294186,2017-09-04 22:09:43,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502913433000.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,US,,1504562983 140260826,140294299,2017-09-04 22:10:53,">>140267599 Same. Let's hit up the motherland when this all blows over.",,Anonymous,AoT Hand.png,r4oDIce1/taXsDVYVHY3yA==,,,1504563053 140260826,140294348,2017-09-04 22:11:29,">>140293713 honestly probably some psyop by leftist authoritarians to paint libertarians as nazis. >>140293701 These threads have plenty of lurkers from the opposition and there is a spike in hate against libertarians right now especially after cancerville which is ironic because libertarianism used to appeal to the same people who now are feverishly opposed to it. /LGBT for example now hates libertarians even though freedom is a core principle. The whole political spectrum is getting flipping backwards ironically and there are marxists saying their views will grant people freedom and freedom is actually false freedom now. Its a giant fucking mess and the ""free helicopter rides"" edgy teens are buying right into it.",,Anonymous,clueless_nig.jpg,tLlHDhGcfM/oTFBa1WNA/w==,,,1504563089 140260826,140294573,2017-09-04 22:13:42,">>140267462 It's a horrible label, with a ton of baggage. Lefties hate capitalism. Everyone hates anarchism. Anarcho-capitalism sounds like a spider. Voluntarism #1",,Anonymous,,,,,1504563222 140260826,140294643,2017-09-04 22:14:24,">>140293933 I mean to tell you that certain demographics tend to have lower iq than most, so to bypass the massive screening iq operation you want I would just use the statistics to discriminate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504563264 140260826,140294795,2017-09-04 22:15:44,">>140294348 >honestly probably some psyop by leftist authoritarians to paint libertarians as nazis. Probably, or a Stromfort Psy-Op, or the Feds. OP and his helpers are massive faggots that were new as fuck a couple days ago. Never seen so many ""being this new"" comments in my life. FISHY AS FUCK. I've been watching them, gathering data and caps and shit.",,Anonymous,1504537125983.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1504563344 140260826,140295065,2017-09-04 22:18:11,">>140294002 I'm not a Nazi you retard. I would never advocate for a violation of property rights, and I can defend that point till the end. You have yet to bring a point other than ""you're a Nazi, fuck you!""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504563491 140260826,140295144,2017-09-04 22:19:00,">>140294643 >afraid I'll get booted from my own Libertarfacist fantasy paradise",,Anonymous,,,,,1504563540 140260826,140295313,2017-09-04 22:20:35,">>140295065 You, right?: >>140288248",,Anonymous,,,,,1504563635 140429647,140429647,2017-09-05 21:17:49,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Hoppe.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,,,1504646269 140429647,140430922,2017-09-05 21:28:42,">>140429647 Bump. Threads like these going 404 is a crime.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504646922 140429647,140432383,2017-09-05 21:41:53,Gimme some /lrg/ a e s t h e t i c.,,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504647713 140429647,140432585,2017-09-05 21:43:44,">>140432383 Gotchu senpai",,Anonymous,1501454319661.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,,,1504647824 140429647,140432633,2017-09-05 21:44:09,>>140432383,,Anonymous,1501614006244.png,M1YrW5Ghbs/1tck+2veGAQ==,,,1504647849 140429647,140432764,2017-09-05 21:45:20,>>140432633,,Anonymous,1501614055676.jpg,PwVdnGrHvBbkX7mpdxBuhw==,,,1504647920 140429647,140432802,2017-09-05 21:45:41,>>140432764,,Anonymous,1501888895391.jpg,0OWign27FNoOxUrefqPwGQ==,,,1504647941 140429647,140432844,2017-09-05 21:46:02,>>140432802,,Anonymous,1502168973647.png,uhx5Jgw/x6B9Pp5s3Jo2EQ==,,,1504647962 140429647,140432907,2017-09-05 21:46:32,>>140432844,,Anonymous,1504132663960.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,,,1504647992 140429647,140432955,2017-09-05 21:46:59,>>140432907,,Anonymous,1504132663961.png,T8Fu9b39NuW1a2bnJPzpKw==,,,1504648019 140429647,140433029,2017-09-05 21:47:41,>>140432955,,Anonymous,1504398652355.png,iYmwYP5NxWA/Gk3IB7qjaA==,,,1504648061 140429647,140433063,2017-09-05 21:48:06,>>140433029,,Anonymous,1504398776646.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,,,1504648086 140429647,140433106,2017-09-05 21:48:31,>>140433063,,Anonymous,1504559050348.png,urrdlrmv0PcKNs6dBBRYfQ==,,,1504648111 140429647,140433186,2017-09-05 21:49:23,>>140433106,,Anonymous,BmQ0fWY.jpg,cD5zNcC3NSLHnJ3u3/zb1g==,,,1504648163 140429647,140433237,2017-09-05 21:49:52,>>140433186,,Anonymous,End Democracy.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1504648192 140429647,140433342,2017-09-05 21:50:46,>>140433237,,Anonymous,hoppewave.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,,,1504648246 140429647,140433418,2017-09-05 21:51:30,>>140433342,,Anonymous,markets work.png,MtHp4TRNatQc1kKgC6k6eQ==,,,1504648290 140429647,140433518,2017-09-05 21:52:16,>>140433418,,Anonymous,p h y s i c a l w a v e.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,,,1504648336 140429647,140433585,2017-09-05 21:52:52,>>140433518,,Anonymous,Physic2.jpg,RXlD7BGUuuZrEbju0nu4rA==,,,1504648372 140429647,140433653,2017-09-05 21:53:27,>>140433585,,Anonymous,physical_removal.png,FLQZpZL/imjJJIRfu8BWEw==,,,1504648407 140429647,140433713,2017-09-05 21:54:05,>>140433653,,Anonymous,r e m o v e.jpg,bETxKOL/OEqkelmYdUk4fQ==,,,1504648445 140429647,140433808,2017-09-05 21:54:49,>>140433713,,Anonymous,rothwave.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,,,1504648489 140429647,140433840,2017-09-05 21:55:12,>>140433808,,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,,,1504648512 140429647,140433901,2017-09-05 21:55:45,>>140433840,,Anonymous,Snekshot.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,,,1504648545 140429647,140434028,2017-09-05 21:56:59,">>140433901 aesthetic machine broke",,Anonymous,,,,,1504648619 140429647,140434238,2017-09-05 21:58:57,">>140432764 >>140432844 >>140433029 >>140433418 >>140433518 >>140433653 >>140433808 These are all great.",,Anonymous,technoir.png,W0+ffkGyVaNcTW7nrbhjWg==,NO,,1504648737 140429647,140434556,2017-09-05 22:01:51,">>140429647 Just dropping a friendly reminder that xenophobia is inherently authoritarian",,Anonymous,,,,,1504648911 140429647,140434672,2017-09-05 22:02:54,">>140429647 >Open borders cucks Come on, as right libertarians we should be for an open border. Now with having an open border that would mean the welfare state needs to be smashed and destroyed. You cannot have both. Why the fuck would any self respecting libertarian on the right want to keep the cost of labor high and make the barrier of entry to a job harder? for the recommended reading list I would also include more Austrian economists, Irving Babbitt, Frank Meyer, Wittgenstein, Augustine, Aquinas, and Julien Benda's 'treason of the intellectuals'",,Anonymous,,,,,1504648974 140429647,140435360,2017-09-05 22:09:22,">>140434672 How would you deal with all the niggers (and in America, spics) that are going to flood in? Yes, even without a welfare state they will pour in, to do crime or to beg. Just let society turn into full-blown hyperviolence?",,Anonymous,century_of_the_nigger.jpg,OiYPzrWLfX3uPOEs8f6R9w==,NO,,1504649362 140429647,140435446,2017-09-05 22:10:04,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1504649404 140429647,140435607,2017-09-05 22:11:32,"propertyandfreedom.org >The 2017 Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society will be held from Thursday, September 14, 2017 (date of arrival) to Tuesday, September 19, 2017 (date of departure), in Bodrum, Turkey, at the Hotel Karia Princess. That's pretty cool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504649492 140429647,140435939,2017-09-05 22:14:13,"A great talk here. check it out. The goal of libertairianism is SELF DETERMINATION, not utopian cosmopolitan idealism. >For a New Libertarian - Jeff Deist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc",,Anonymous,Means_To_Liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1504649653 140429647,140436373,2017-09-05 22:18:00,"CANTWELL UPDATE we're getting plenty of calls from Chris. >Cantwell & Kessler: Gab Censors Andrew Anglin; WTF Is Happening To Free Speech https://soundcloud.com/realnewswithjasonkessler/cantwell-kessler-gab-censors-andrew-anglin-wtf-is-happening-to-free-speech I'll keep you folks up to date as shit comes out.",,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,,,1504649880 140429647,140436596,2017-09-05 22:19:52,">>140435446 Private land proprietors would be very happy to invite hard-working foreigners to employ them and so on. Without welfare there is no need to fear foreigners. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C52TlPCVDio",,Anonymous,immigration.jpg,ippctvrtq4hZ1fuTbjUskA==,,,1504649992 140429647,140436954,2017-09-05 22:22:59,">>140435360 >Just let society turn into full-blown hyperviolence? Fortunately we have the natural right to self defense. We already have anarcho-tyranny where the government cannot even maintain the few things it's supposed to do but somehow can regulate and legislate to a degree to make life terrible >>140435446 >Because we believe in free association, we must not be forced to intergrate those who we wouldn't like to associate with, regardles of the illegitimacy of the states territory. Yeah there is a case to be made about property rights with open which I'm very sympathetic to that argument. But we do have the right of free association (which still needs to be strengthened and expanded in scope). Personally I'll take more taco trucks in my city than having government authority expand an inch further. We are the ones after all who believe and embrace the idea of the ""Burkean Platoons"" of our select communities that we live in. I live in a very leftist city and I don't have to integrate with anyone I don't want to. I freely associate with those of my own political leanings and culture/religion. But pragmatically since the welfare state isn't going anywhere soon, I would say we have to tighten up the border",,Anonymous,,,,,1504650179 140429647,140437270,2017-09-05 22:25:54,">>140436596 Sure there would people happy to take on a foreigners. I would never prevent them from their free association and their property. Many people also don't want to see their community become replaced by a foreign population, and they would choose a proprietor who had loyalty to his people. Do you afford me the same freedom of associtaion? would you prevent me from joining a white community with force?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504650354 140429647,140437733,2017-09-05 22:29:42,">>140436954 >Fortunately we have the natural right to self defense. So? Even if you have all the fully auto AR-15s in the world it's still going to be a society of hyperviolent chaos when thousands of feral niggers are flooding across your borders everyday.",,Anonymous,upstanding_gentlemen.jpg,2QeYzA8PlQJaUqt6KSPPHA==,NO,,1504650582 140429647,140438205,2017-09-05 22:33:36,">>140437733 I already live in a city with a hyper violent black community. They're the majority by a wide margin. The problem already exists with crime. If this is going to be the state of things I would like to be able to defend myself but unfortunately even pepper spray is illegal. Compounding with the fact that US law says that the police are not obligated to stop crime",,Anonymous,,,,,1504650816 140429647,140438516,2017-09-05 22:36:15,">>140436954 The extent we are ALLOWED, by the state to freely associate is an absolutely horrendous violation of our natural rights, Simply being able to discriminate against who can sleep in my bed is not the height of what I advocate for, its simply not enough. and dont be so quick to say ""we"" its very clear to me we have different priorities, I would in all likelyhood, given the choice not live in taco truck land.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504650975 140429647,140438962,2017-09-05 22:40:11,">>140438205 you're not looking at the problem just right. Even if you could defend yourself from a certain amount of these people, foreigners are entering the country at a steady flow, to a point of having higher replacement rates that of the our population, its a loosing game no matter what gun you have. they will replace us and we should have a right to prevent that, and protect our population from this demographic replacement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504651211 140429647,140439231,2017-09-05 22:42:12,">>140436596 >niggers are going to behave without welfare lmao",,Anonymous,open_borders.jpg,hlsNK3Fn/pGp6BC9IoAXaA==,NO,,1504651332 140429647,140439271,2017-09-05 22:42:33,">>140438962 having higher replacement rates than that of our population.* Lets also make it clear that this land we are talking about does not belong to the foreigners, it is WE who homesteaded our land and we are the rightful proprietors.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504651353 140429647,140439290,2017-09-05 22:42:40,">>140438516 The ""we"" being those of us who hold the same epistemology on the nature of man. In a free society, no one would stop you from living in community and associating with others of your choosing. >Simply being able to discriminate against who can sleep in my bed is not the height of what I advocate for I remember someone brought up the thought experiment of being a hooker/prostitute and the government saying you cannot discriminate in the work place/freedom of association. A lot of hookers say ""no blacks"", which is there choice, but according to the government you cannot discriminate. So technically the government could make you sleep with someone against your will (rape) simply because there is an exchange of money. Which is highly evil and I don't think the left thinks that far or its implications when it shits on the right of free association, which you stated correctly is a natural right",,Anonymous,,,,,1504651360 140429647,140439327,2017-09-05 22:42:59,"Daily reminder that we would have tons of private high-speed rail if public roads weren't around to make it totally unprofitable. Ending road socialism is the only way to let the free market fix mass transit.",,Anonymous,550_JapaneseHighSpeed.jpg,jFf254Xl+E/e1ZqAHg1s+g==,US,,1504651379 140429647,140440203,2017-09-05 22:50:20,">>140439290 >free association, which you stated correctly is a natural right. I'm glad you agree, so now would it not follow that because of civil rights legislation (anti discrimination legislation), and the construct of state ""public"" property, opening of the central state to allow any and all foreigners in, force me not to discriminate when hiring, serving, or even choosing a school for my kid that adheres to my values not a massive violation of my right to association? That is why I am against opening the borders, it is public policy that violates my right to self determination. I deserve a choice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504651820 140429647,140440348,2017-09-05 22:51:33,"If we take the existence of the state as granted, then border control is one of the few things that actually NEED to exist, and be enacted harshly. The libertarian mindset needs to be seriously reformed in favor of border control and limited migration.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504651893 140429647,140440704,2017-09-05 22:54:27,"Daily reminder that really the only way to reduce the number of cars on the road and stop global warming is to privatize the roads. Public roads constitute a subsidy on cars and commuting.",,Anonymous,Houston.jpg,VqlaUKkLMzo+QYo9alw99w==,US,,1504652067 140429647,140440791,2017-09-05 22:55:07,">>140440348 This is why I try to make a clear and honest case that open borders amounts to an opening to the central state, and a massive violation of property rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504652107 140429647,140440821,2017-09-05 22:55:22,">>140439231 fucking this. t. big city american- i shudder to think what'd happen if the government checks were late.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504652122 140429647,140440887,2017-09-05 22:55:55,">>140433063 The man",,Anonymous,,,,,1504652155 140429647,140440912,2017-09-05 22:56:12,>>140440821,,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,,,1504652172 140429647,140441018,2017-09-05 22:57:06,">>140440348 >>140440791 both of you stop confusing ancap with libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504652226 140429647,140441042,2017-09-05 22:57:14,">>140435360 Nigs would just starve to death without the welfare state",,Anonymous,,,,,1504652234 140429647,140441045,2017-09-05 22:57:16,">>140440704 amen",,Anonymous,p r i v a t e.jpg,qchcpuW3GEsV+ULm+Tx2cQ==,,,1504652236 140429647,140441134,2017-09-05 22:58:00,">>140440203 Yes which is a weird problem the gov has created. My question would be for you, if you freely associate or not associate would you be fine with open borders? I'm all with that you should be able to discriminate against anyone for any reason. Personally, I just think that the welfare state needs to be addressed and I''m not in favor of open borders at this time while the bloated welfare state exists and having weak right of association.To be fair, open borders is not my hill to die on. There is other policy battles worth fighting over in my book.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504652280 140429647,140441259,2017-09-05 22:59:07,">>140440821 well, in a libertarien order you would be able to shoot at the first property violation, so I guess that would solve the nigger problem. Perhaps the nigger problem would be entirely solved this way, knowing that 1/4 of Blacks go to prison, and would probably be killed in self defence or in retaliation, so the population of Blacks would decrease very quickly",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504652347 140429647,140441522,2017-09-05 23:01:42,">>140441259 And I don't even talk about private racialist charities funded by nigger haters that would offer sterilization to Black women and men in exchange of some KFC purchasing power",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504652502 140429647,140442157,2017-09-05 23:07:44,">>140441018 If I had free association ""open borders"" would not be a thing. ""open borders"" is not a condition exists in a fully privatized society unless the property owner explicitly desires that. i believe everyone would discriminate at some point. were you choose is up to you. you may disagree with my racial opinions however it is important that we respect each other choice. May I make it clear that I believe CHOICE is the goal of libertarianism, not universal openness and inclusivity.",,Anonymous,misc (4).jpg,loryyDKMeZx40HWKilOZfw==,,,1504652864 140429647,140442262,2017-09-05 23:08:44,">>140442157 I ment this to go to >>140441134",,Anonymous,,,,,1504652924 140429647,140442337,2017-09-05 23:09:26,">>140441018 libertarian is a term that applies to minarchists and AnCaps alike.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504652966 140429647,140442446,2017-09-05 23:10:16,G'night folks,,Anonymous,1492507944453.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,,,1504653016 140429647,140442723,2017-09-05 23:12:54,">>140441045 This is a good infographic, but I think it should emphasize that they'll mostly be join stock companies, traded on a road stock market with locals owning as many shares as they desire. They'll contract with road management companies who may or may not own any roads themselves. I personally think Walter Block's idea of distributing road stock to every citizen (more to landowners obviously) is as fair as you can get. I think people have this big hangup over having their roads owned by others and this suggestion puts that to rest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504653174 140429647,140442836,2017-09-05 23:13:56,"Haupstürmfuhrer Pepe if you're in here you're literally a brainlet, if you honestly think a %40 or under white capitalist society would be better than a %97 white communist society you are deluded.",,Anonymous,DE9o478WAAIw2XD.jpg,oqF3F5hG17gx5VxgNVD17g==,,,1504653236 140429647,140442959,2017-09-05 23:15:14,">>140442836 False premise, whites are too smart to attempt a communist society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504653314 140429647,140442997,2017-09-05 23:15:37,">>140442157 >>140442262 yeah I figured that was meant for me lol. But yeah absolutely in a truly privatized society there wouldn't be open borders. A person would have seek permission to a property owner. Yeah I fully believe that everyone discriminates on some level, it's impossible to say no one discriminates. We make discriminatory choices every day.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504653337 140429647,140443079,2017-09-05 23:16:22,">be op >post libertarian thread >it's actually just authoritarian alt-right ideology lite really makes you think",,Anonymous,,,,,1504653382 140429647,140443183,2017-09-05 23:17:23,">>140443079 Please Jeffery Tucker, remember when you used to write about how Lincoln was the devil? What happened to you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504653443 140429647,140443253,2017-09-05 23:17:59,>>140443079,,Anonymous,1503119340507.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1504653479 140429647,140443318,2017-09-05 23:18:34,">>140442959 >what is the soviet union The difference between the two in the analogy is that the former survives the struggles of communism the latter dies of the plagues of ""civic nationalism""",,Anonymous,,,,,1504653514 140429647,140443337,2017-09-05 23:18:42,">>140442723 Thanks, I'll update it soon. I'm about 2/3 through the book now, so I'll add whatever else I find as well (and probably find a better background image).",,Anonymous,,,,,1504653522 140429647,140443343,2017-09-05 23:18:44,">>140443183 Fucking Jeffery Tucker, guy is too pretentious and I met him a few times at YAL meetings",,Anonymous,,,,,1504653524 140429647,140443482,2017-09-05 23:20:05,">>140443318 >Implying there wouldn't be all-white private covenants",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504653605 140429647,140443558,2017-09-05 23:20:45,">>140443253 It isn't bait though. I believe in a society where personal achievement and skills trumps all, where everyone has very high economic and personal freedoms, and the government is extremely small and governed by the people. The rest of the people in this thread believe niggers are subhuman, the state should deploy militaries to stop immigrants/kill commie dissidents, and there's a natural order to society other than that of the skilled triumphing over the retards.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504653645 140429647,140443576,2017-09-05 23:20:55,">>140443482 >Implying they wouldn't be massacred by the non-white majority coalition Gibs me dat whitey",,Anonymous,,,,,1504653655 140429647,140443670,2017-09-05 23:21:40,">>140443318 >communist federation of turks, slavs, mongols, and georgians >white",,Anonymous,ýýýýý.jpg,8yOzVMo5/Lp65iQaUzt1Qg==,,,1504653700 140429647,140443715,2017-09-05 23:22:08,">>140443318 The Soviet Union was a different ethic group, you off all people should know, also why don't you take at the founding fathers views on race and Nation. It was explicit that America was too maintain a European population.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504653728 140429647,140443876,2017-09-05 23:23:37,">>140443576 That's why you create a convenant in majority white areas like Europe and the United States retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504653817 140429647,140443965,2017-09-05 23:24:30,">>140443715 Jesus my phone posting grammar is shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504653870 140429647,140444032,2017-09-05 23:25:13,">>140443670 Russia is only %10 Turks, Mongols, and Georgians, its %90 white.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504653913 140429647,140444044,2017-09-05 23:25:18,">>140443558 Isn't that the burden of loving liberty and freedom? We have to defend people who we might find reprehensible in their choices simply on principle alone. I'm just happy there is still threads like this that are not completely filled with Stormfags who think the only way to combat the left is to grow the state and use it as a weapon against political enemies",,Anonymous,,,,,1504653918 140429647,140444288,2017-09-05 23:27:26,">>140443876 So you mean collectivize and form a white ethnostate? ;^) sounds pretty gommienist desu >>140443715 >The Soviet Union was a different ethic group, you off all people should know Yes I do know this, I also know that the ethnic Russian survived the communist Jew takeover. I also know this, that the European will not survive a capitalist Jew takeover for much longer.",,Anonymous,eJwNysENwyAMAMBdGACDHRWaZSpEEFCRGmH3FXX35nu6y3zXMLtpqlN2gKNL5nVYUV6pFluZ6yhpdrGZT0iqKbezfFQAY8RIPobg8ImE4QGEznmH2y1InraAIH3c-9X6GPY9q_n9AZSSJEc.jpg,H/vTzkRPqXDw8PgYxA7WKg==,,,1504654046 140429647,140444336,2017-09-05 23:27:56,">>140443558 That's a complete stawman, we do not back state coercion. My views on race are irrelevant. Free association means I choose who I associate with, that's the bottom line.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504654076 140429647,140444381,2017-09-05 23:28:18,">>140444044 This is much better than most of the board, honestly, and I can forgive the desire for border controls (there are plenty of valid reasons for wanting those), honestly more aggravated that it seems so many people in this thread value race > actual achievement. And I get it 'lol you're just a nigger cuck' or whatever other bullshit people throw at me, but this is just my honest opinion and shit [spoiler:lit]also you're the real cucks for needing to attach yourselves to the achievements of a race/culture rather than having achievements or skills of your own to take pride in[/spoiler:lit] sorry",,Anonymous,,,,,1504654098 140429647,140444414,2017-09-05 23:28:37,">>140443670 >slavs >georgians >not white k shill.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504654117 140429647,140444473,2017-09-05 23:29:08,">>140444336 Didn't mean you specifically, meant that it seemed like the majority of the thread was one way, desu. Apologies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504654148 140429647,140444492,2017-09-05 23:29:15,,,Anonymous,1504584032736.png,UGGAtAdCXLqn2dlzduTrVQ==,,,1504654155 140429647,140444772,2017-09-05 23:31:21,">>140444288 Yes, collectivize by voluntary association. This is valid by the most hardcore interpretations of property rights and non aggression. You're just butthurt that you got tricked into using the statejew to do something you can do without it. And I assumed you were implying whites created a white communist society when you said 97% white communism. My bad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504654281 140429647,140444835,2017-09-05 23:31:56,">>140444381 link very related! https://campus.aynrand.org/works/1963/01/01/racism",,Anonymous,,,,,1504654316 140429647,140444911,2017-09-05 23:32:43,">>140444473 I'm a regular here, I'm very familiar with the views expressed here. We're not authoritarians just because we hold conservative and race realist views.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504654363 140429647,140445266,2017-09-05 23:35:57,">>140444772 Are you Haupstürmfuhrer Pepe?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504654557 140429647,140445304,2017-09-05 23:36:26,">>140444381 I disagree with the hyper individualist angle so much, Libertarianism is not about pushing your cultural agenda down everyones throats. It is infact because we don't believe we know what's best for every individual that we are Libertarians. Respect self determination, not abstract individualism or collectivism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504654586 140429647,140445374,2017-09-05 23:37:02,">>140445266 No, but If seen his name around before.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504654622 140429647,140447175,2017-09-05 23:53:23,"Getting sleepy, gonna try to sleep now so I don't lose what's left of my sanity, but first, I'll leave you with this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g9dwTSXkiII",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504655603 140501819,140501819,2017-09-06 11:20:19,"NOTHING TO THE RIGHT OF FASCISTS BUT THE WALL, AND WE'RE THE FUCKING BRICKS! >Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists serious about ending the state and not just smoking weed, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists, anti-communist militants like ya boy Oscar Perez. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Locke, Smith, the Founding Fathers, Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Thomas Sowell, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /Kd2WD2X",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - BLOOD AND SOIL EDITION,Anonymous,hoppe for dummies.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,SK,,1504696819 140501819,140502241,2017-09-06 11:24:46,"FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The rightful owners of public property (including borders) are the victims of taxation. Therefore nobody can benefit from that land save for them. Eventually this issue would be solved by full privatisation, but that's still far in the future. Also we don't like brown people. >(((Capitalism))) Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >What about roads? Since companies need infrastructure to transport their goods to reach people who in turn need infrastructure for their own needs, this system of mutual dependence is the incentive for any faggot with a steamrol-nah I'm just fucking with you. (((Roads))) are the asphalt Jew that limits evaporation from the soil and gives kids autism. We take helicopters everywhere we go. >LOLBERGTARDIANS R DEGENERATE Degeneracy is a symptom of r-selected individuals within a K-selected society. Just kick them out, their high time preference and negative externalities caused by their presence and behaviour are a good enough reason for their physical removal. No trap harems for you. >What about usury? Banking marketed to ordinary folk was a mistake, so much so that even (((Rothbard))) disapproves of it. End the FED, price war now.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1504697086 140501819,140502289,2017-09-06 11:25:11,Bump has been given.,,Anonymous,,,,,1504697111 140501819,140502300,2017-09-06 11:25:15,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,hoppe commies covenant.jpg,ckKjaFAUScKcuxT33B/0Hg==,,,1504697115 140501819,140502360,2017-09-06 11:25:48,">>140501819 Bump",,$4CHN:Ca8aXo3mzYJ4MrRd9HYscuX8p9Kq2s85A1,,,US,,1504697148 140501819,140502377,2017-09-06 11:25:55,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts >youtube.com/user/Morrakiu - youtube.com/channel/UCqAIvs0vAb71x_ZO10HArhA - http://morrakiu.com/ - Morrakiu of TRS and Radical Agenda INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell BANTZ TIER >Jared Howe's faceberg account Fuck Cato. Open borders for Israel.",,Anonymous,hoppe vs tucker.jpg,YsEjDLJ5uAVjWUsN89pMHg==,,,1504697155 140501819,140502443,2017-09-06 11:26:28,"ARTICLES: >Murray Rothbard - Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0 >Murray Rothbard - Race! That Murray Book - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Murray Rothbard - Nations by Consent - mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Jeff Deist - For A New Libertarian - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - A Realistic Libertarianism - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ >Llewellyn Rockwell - Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property - mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property // VIDEOS/PODCASTS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=-Yv9JZiaFUg >Christopher Cantwell with Wife with a Purpose - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/12/radical-agenda-ep300-dear-momma/ >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/17/radical-agenda-ep302-mike-enoch/ >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/19/radical-agenda-ep303-articulate-black-guy/ >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/24/radical-agenda-ep306-jared-howe/ >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 >Jeff Deist - For a New Libertarian (speech) - youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc",,Anonymous,ron paul nap.jpg,19FJjqRHaqREZx9CAci+HA==,,,1504697188 140501819,140502492,2017-09-06 11:27:00,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=ecVvLqSJCK8 >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=Vz_CagU5wjY >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo >Morrakiu - Agreeing with the Liberals for All the Wrong Reasons - youtube.com/watch?v=eASnXIubJEE >LE NEGRO ANARCHIST - MARCHING SONGS FOR MERCENARIES OF ALL ENTERPRISING MEN OF THE WORLD - anarchyinblack.tumblr.com/post/160501747153/radio-ancapistan-marching-songs-for-the-child",,Anonymous,evola on economics.jpg,C2dzZiTLU90dj7s7hbs67w==,,,1504697220 140501819,140502522,2017-09-06 11:27:22,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,do it for hoppe.jpg,n05E1f+kvzhPxH4zAyyGHQ==,,,1504697242 140501819,140503118,2017-09-06 11:32:50,"God bless /lrg/, the only true home brewed philosophy on /pol/ commies and left Libertarians prepare to get physically removed.",,Anonymous,1504553353185.jpg,AEnHRYjD6RDVw4j2xxbL4Q==,US,,1504697570 140501819,140503343,2017-09-06 11:34:48,FREE CANTWELL,,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,US,,1504697688 140501819,140503403,2017-09-06 11:35:26,Heil Hoppe!,,Anonymous,hoppe_.png,urrdlrmv0PcKNs6dBBRYfQ==,US,,1504697726 140501819,140503470,2017-09-06 11:36:06,Commies stand in the way of a voluntary society...,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1504697766 140501819,140503614,2017-09-06 11:37:19,Remove them before they further destroy our nations.,,Anonymous,1504132663960.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1504697839 140501819,140503666,2017-09-06 11:37:45,,,Anonymous,1504132663961.png,T8Fu9b39NuW1a2bnJPzpKw==,US,,1504697865 140501819,140503705,2017-09-06 11:38:10,">>140503343 >#FreeCipher",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504697890 140501819,140504050,2017-09-06 11:41:17,,,Anonymous,1500462358100.png,LEHpEHfrb+kvdPz4h3D3RQ==,,,1504698077 140501819,140504143,2017-09-06 11:42:08,">tfw you read The Virtue of Selfishness and realize that people who shit on Ayn Rand have no clue what they're talking about, especially when you synthesize her philosophy with Hoppe and others",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504698128 140501819,140504159,2017-09-06 11:42:14,">>140504050 All socialism is a revolt against nature.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504698134 140501819,140504297,2017-09-06 11:43:15,">>140504143 quick somebody post ""Mozart was a Red""",,Anonymous,anime compass.png,GsXPJIvRR8EC4gFkif697g==,,,1504698195 140501819,140504363,2017-09-06 11:43:51,">>140504050 You must be retarded, we're not corporatists, NatSoc and fascism are. We oppose chaos, we are for natural order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504698231 140501819,140504561,2017-09-06 11:45:46,>>140504050,,Anonymous,naturalallies.jpg,7+KxGMt05B0mILoTRcugeA==,US,,1504698346 140501819,140505127,2017-09-06 11:51:16,,,Anonymous,1502786418943_0.png,geKm75lldE6MwGGxCByUfA==,US,,1504698676 140501819,140505454,2017-09-06 11:54:39,">(((roads))) are the asphalt Jew that limits evaporation from the soil and gives kids autism. Kek, why have I never read this before.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504698879 140501819,140505770,2017-09-06 11:57:51,,,Anonymous,nw.jpg,lLn4lOvo4t3LWl1PuU834w==,US,,1504699071 140501819,140506975,2017-09-06 12:10:04,,,Anonymous,A_0.jpg,5Ulz3I1kAEBEbDp4wdkuJg==,US,,1504699804 140501819,140507115,2017-09-06 12:11:25,">>140502522 The first two vids are removed",,Anonymous,,,,,1504699885 140501819,140507957,2017-09-06 12:19:48,">>140507115 Everything with a snippet of Cantwell speaking got shoahd off of YouTube.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504700388 140501819,140508923,2017-09-06 12:29:43,,,Anonymous,19437716_1604033819655007_8869932370820195295_n.png,J6hye+Y8N8XZVH/ouKQyyA==,US,,1504700983 140501819,140509656,2017-09-06 12:37:09,">>140501819 I like the fact that it is (YOU) lolbertarian fuckers and ancaps that are getting physically removed the most. -youtube is removing your racist asses -twitter is removing your bigoted asses -google is removing your sexist asses James Damore is a prime example how silicon valley is now becoming a covenant of modern progressivism, he wanted to practice his ""freeze peach"" but found himself physically removed in a completely Hoppean manner.",,Anonymous,ancap evolution.jpg,X8LQbA29Ee0dS1XFGNmocA==,,,1504701429 140501819,140509738,2017-09-06 12:37:58,,,Anonymous,mysoul.jpg,tZb3OTJW97KynxtxpFt1tQ==,US,,1504701478 140501819,140509741,2017-09-06 12:37:59,">>140508923 700 iq plays why is the spanish goverment so damn retarded it makes me cry",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1504701479 140501819,140509886,2017-09-06 12:39:38,">>140509656 Yes, the state funds commie corporations to suppress right wingers speech. Do you think we don't know this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504701578 140501819,140509932,2017-09-06 12:40:04,">>140504561 Kek, as if they'd actually capitulate to ancap ideals. >remove debt Why would you cooperate with someone that economically illiterate",,Anonymous,1504063165526.png,aq/FGJmeSIOTKFZPCfe+Rw==,,,1504701604 140501819,140510401,2017-09-06 12:44:47,">>140509932 the best way to remove debt is not to operate at a deficit, but tell that to socialists Honestly? I felt sympathetic towards them at times, but their inability to comprehend basic truths makes cooperation very one-sided.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504701887 140501819,140511095,2017-09-06 12:51:28,">>140509932 I'm not a fan for nsdap larping, but I must admit, there are a few good people in the movement I personally would associate with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504702288 140501819,140511226,2017-09-06 12:52:45,">>140510401 I can't even fathom cooperating with self-identified socialists. The only thing we agree on is the reality of human races, but their application of that information is sorely misguided. I wouldn't care for it, anyway, if not for the fact that they got our best speaker, Cantwell, to swing their way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504702365 140501819,140511843,2017-09-06 12:58:39,">>140511226 I don't think Cantwell has their rhetoric on any issue other than the JQ. everything he claims to be for sounds pretty Libertarian to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504702719 140501819,140512869,2017-09-06 13:08:00,">>140511843 He pandered to them quite a bit, though. It's gone now, but his episode ""Free Market Fascism"" epitomized that behavior, and I didn't like it. I don't like this idea that fascists and natsocs form some cool kid's club that we gotta be a part of. As I see it, right-wing libertarianism seeks to enforce natural law. Traditionalist lifestyles that have always worked will continue to work, and the races that tend to adopt them (whites, east asians, etc.) will survive. I'm not interested in molding that to fit the hyper-statist, radically centrist ideologies promulgated by Gentile and Codreanu. They were just as Hegelian and post-modern as the Marxists, if not more so, and I think that Cantwell's friendly attitude to them was a huge loss for our movement.",,Anonymous,feels bad.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,,,1504703280 140501819,140513437,2017-09-06 13:13:21,">>140511226 Cantwell exposes one particular key problem with Anarcho-Capitalism, and the funniest thing is that you can catch it just by reading up on Rothbard: Libertarianism, properly understood in its historical context rooted in the evolution of thousands of years of tradition and cooperation, leads towards social conservatism. Things like Hoppe's observation that trading with people doesn't mean you want them living next to you. Nazis did their best to try and co-opt traditionalism in service of the State. Luckily for them their regime never lasted long enough for the cracks to appear, which accounts for the so-called ""Enlightened Libertarians"". What does this have to do with Cantwell's problem? It accounts for his weakness towards women. He's jumped from slag to slag, always crying when they end up fucking him over and then limping towards the next one. That's because he's an emasculated man, beaten down by the State in hundreds of ways over time, and tries to revert to a traditional structure. He can't, though. It's already long too late for him, but he will never understand that. Even if you tell it to him, to his face, he'll just try again on another woman and get fucked of. That's what made him spill his spaghetti in that vice interview, because she was female. Nothing more. Mind you, I don't actually think all libertarians need a family, but I think it's integral for continuity, and it's a great way for moderates to contribute to the movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504703601 140501819,140513605,2017-09-06 13:15:00,">>140512869 I think he did as much or even less damage as Ron Paul pandering to lefties as a anti war candidate. You're not wrong, I just see libertarianism as an ally to the right in the long run, regardless of ethical differences. I too would prefer he shill our ideas harder, but I don't think he's minimalized or done harm Libertarianism. I think he does way more good than bad for us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504703700 140501819,140515410,2017-09-06 13:30:30,">>140513437 So he's been fucked purely by being a cucked victim of the state for so much of his life? The irony is painful here. I recognize the importance of a family, but I also recognize that some people simply aren't fit to raise children, and Cantwell's one of them. His public speaking skills are great, but considering how he can hardly keep his shit together in front of a potential mate, I doubt he'll be able to properly raise a child. >>140513605 The difference here is that Paul needed to pander the way he did because he went into local government. Either play to win, or don't play at all, and playing to win the political game means you have to shill sometimes. Sad, but true. Cantwell rejected that life and started the Radical Agenda to use his charisma to promote anarcho-capitalist thought. He didn't need to pander to anybody, he just had to present right-libertarianism as it was and bolster it with his sharp wit and bold mannerisms. He didn't stick to our principles though, and while that may not be direct harm to our movement, we lost one of our best propagandists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504704630 140501819,140517056,2017-09-06 13:45:18,">>140515410 Lost him because he's no longer Libertarian enough, or just because he got arrested for hanging with Nazis?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504705518 140501819,140517844,2017-09-06 13:52:26,">>140517056 The former, really. The latter was more official, but he started shilling long before then. If he gets out and resumes the Radical Agenda with a more hardcore, un-compromisingly libertarian spirit, I'll be very happy, but I think he's too far gone for that, whether he gets out or not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504705946 140501819,140517952,2017-09-06 13:53:21,">>140501819 There is a serious lack of snek in this thread.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504706001 140501819,140518092,2017-09-06 13:54:36,">>140517952 Agreed.",,Anonymous,math.png,HHULeUtWGXWzu3SdUfgSLQ==,US,,1504706076 140501819,140518630,2017-09-06 13:59:10,">>140517952 Apparently /k/ actually has snek threads. Anyone know what their attitude is about libertarianism?",,Anonymous,1501801570998.jpg,aGMc6d8GKDJkL+ejEF5LPg==,,,1504706350 140501819,140518725,2017-09-06 13:59:55,">>140518630 /k/ hates gun and votes straight D.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504706395 140501819,140519947,2017-09-06 14:10:32,">>140517844 I have to disagree, I honestly don't see cantwell as any less Libertarian, I think he's only come to some rather extreme conclusions that the state is seeking to eliminate him, and that in order to defend himself, joining forces with some rather aggressive white nationalist and fascists. I honestly believe his justifications are Libertarian af. He's seeking defense and self determination. Even in his vice interview he did a whole bit on ""I did not imitate force"" he's in the realm of esoteric liberaryanism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504707032 140501819,140520768,2017-09-06 14:17:37,>>140517952,,Anonymous,snek (8).png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,,,1504707457 140501819,140521474,2017-09-06 14:23:19,">>140518725 Fucking gay >>140519947 Even so, siding with ultra-statists seems to compromise his secessionist ideals. I can see how one would call that a 4D chess move or whatever, essentially using fascists/natsocs as pawns for his own goals, if not for the fact that, again, he's been trying too hard to cuck for them for too long. I don't doubt that he's still a Hoppean, deep down, but I think he's too prone to cucking. Like >>14051343 pointed out, he's an emasculated man who's been a tool of the state for too much of his life. Just as he's desperate for a woman's approval, he's desperate for the approval of the white ethnostatists, and I think that's been detrimental to his otherwise libertarian goals.",,Anonymous,naga aggression principle.gif,O7Rn8UsWcnirBC9PaolH9g==,,,1504707799 140501819,140522746,2017-09-06 14:33:28,">>140509656 >James Damore is a prime example how silicon valley is now becoming a covenant of modern progressivism, he wanted to practice his ""freeze peach"" but found himself physically removed in a completely Hoppean manner. He's literally on Joe Rogan's podcast right this minute (just started Live about ten minutes ago) with 30,000 live viewers and will probably have 200k downloads. Google could have just let him say his piece and move on, but instead they had to fuck with him and now his platform is bigger than ever. But sure, you keep going with your strategy...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504708408 140501819,140522791,2017-09-06 14:33:55,">>140521474 >siding with ultra-statists seems to compromise his secessionist ideals. You have to understand Im trying to put myself in his perpspective, although he is siding with socialists, I think its worth pointing out that he's quite vocal in opposing those particular socialist views that national socialists espouse. I also think that he feels certain that these people are not ultra statists like we're so often told, It seems clear he accepts most forms of ""aggression"" historically used by these nazis was in self defense, against the same enemy that he feels are against him today, namely the ZOG. I remember the ""free market fascists episode"", but even later in the morrakiu episode I think he makes his views quite clear, and that he feels deep down inside that he is an anarcho capitalist. He also states in that episode that he's not married to the white nationalism/fascism thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504708435 140501819,140522934,2017-09-06 14:35:03,">>140502241 What are r-selection and K-selection?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504708503 140501819,140523008,2017-09-06 14:35:41,,,Anonymous,1500314655197.jpg,7XX4APC+ikI8eBpvqaXfGA==,US,,1504708541 140501819,140523049,2017-09-06 14:35:59,,,Anonymous,1500315284820.png,tRzRr8Rua/StEvzEQj1bmw==,US,,1504708559 140501819,140523064,2017-09-06 14:36:06,">>140521474 I don't have anything to say about his personal life, he's also a drug addict and an all around maniac.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504708566 140501819,140523093,2017-09-06 14:36:22,,,Anonymous,social-contract-comic.png,kmwGYiYf/pkpXKN+Y3jH2A==,US,,1504708582 140501819,140523147,2017-09-06 14:36:57,,,Anonymous,18557214_1347176842017298_6853959804979524843_n.png,gUpWaYJ5MctN5cWBtVbeGQ==,US,,1504708617 140501819,140523192,2017-09-06 14:37:24,,,Anonymous,1499372578265.jpg,4otD0+EQ6Lgm9cCwBOyvuw==,US,,1504708644 140501819,140523228,2017-09-06 14:37:45,,,Anonymous,1499469761886.png,+frYGWAcehO87/QyJvP8gA==,US,,1504708665 140501819,140523299,2017-09-06 14:38:25,,,Anonymous,1497355951170.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1504708705 140501819,140523882,2017-09-06 14:43:31,">>140521474 Also, that nigga is Rothbardian. He's much more in the vein if natural rights, as opposed to Hoppe's natural order.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504709011 140501819,140524175,2017-09-06 14:45:56,">>140502377 >civic nationalism",,Anonymous,1485035767880.png,3CsxD7xYJg0yBb5zFQFe6A==,,,1504709156 140501819,140524551,2017-09-06 14:48:55,">>140515410 >So he's been fucked purely by being a cucked victim of the state for so much of his life? The irony is painful here. There are a lot of people who, sad to say, never had a chance of realizing simple dreams like having a family from the start. Look up the history of things like No-Divorce Laws. It's a great way for understanding the innate evil of Statism and how its adherents, at heart, despise the family unit. Females tend to vote for more Statism. Women who have had all sense of tradition stripped from them, like the legions of single mothers in society today, vote for even more. Thus, it only makes sense to keep beating down fathers, whether actual or aspirants. >I recognize the importance of a family, but I also recognize that some people simply aren't fit to raise children, and Cantwell's one of them. His public speaking skills are great, but considering how he can hardly keep his shit together in front of a potential mate, I doubt he'll be able to properly raise a child. True enough. This is a problem a lot of fringe movements face, in that they're dependent on the idea of family units, but their members are so far removed from being able to live up to that potential that they inevitably decay because they don't have much to talk about besides ""How to get gf"". This is something that Soros and other Statist megalomaniacs, Jewish or not, are able to circumvent. They simply loot families and use that money to create organizations that obviate the need for family.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504709335 140501819,140526432,2017-09-06 15:04:03,What do you guys think about a technocratic government?,,Anonymous,technocracyemblem.png,Xb1wvF5UD5J8iAibIHI99w==,,,1504710243 140501819,140526747,2017-09-06 15:06:49,">>140501819 >BLOOD AND SOIL Get that fucking shit outta here crypto-nazi",,Anonymous,,,,,1504710409 140501819,140526809,2017-09-06 15:07:25,">>140526432 It's some beyond 1984 nightmare. Technology is a double edged sword. We may be able to communicate and use crypto-currency but it also allows for greater government surveillance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504710445 140501819,140526878,2017-09-06 15:07:59,">>140526747 Blood still matters to some people. Get over it cosmopolitan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504710479 140501819,140526927,2017-09-06 15:08:23,"You will never gain power. Never have, never will. Even if you magically could, someone else would expand government with their people and ooops powerless again. Dumb fucks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504710503 140501819,140526976,2017-09-06 15:08:47,">>140526432 It's worked oh-so-beautifully with our financial institutions and central banks, we should let so-called experts run everything!",,Anonymous,,,,,1504710527 140501819,140526995,2017-09-06 15:08:56,">>140526878 Collectivism is a mistake",,Anonymous,,,,,1504710536 140501819,140527685,2017-09-06 15:14:47,"You absolute retards do know based Pinochet was persecuted and there are monuments to his victims and Allende? You need some kind of contingency plan. Which involves heavy statism and collectivism if you want to keep your legacy and head when you have grown tired and old. If you ever gain power which is unlikely, that is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504710887 140501819,140527778,2017-09-06 15:15:29,">>140526927 >Never have, never will There are plenty of examples of the Catholic Church supporting decentralization. Please don't use that flag without understanding its history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity",,Anonymous,,,,,1504710929 140501819,140527996,2017-09-06 15:17:22,">>140526809 Would it be possible for a society to dismantle a government agency from running an unconstitutional establishment? >>140526976 Economists don't count as ""technical experts""",,Anonymous,,,,,1504711042 140501819,140528670,2017-09-06 15:23:22,">>140526995 Collectivism is not aggression.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504711402 140501819,140528783,2017-09-06 15:24:16,">>140527996 Surely it's possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504711456 140501819,140528922,2017-09-06 15:25:30,">>140526927 Holy Roman empire was decentralized as fuck my man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504711530 140501819,140529302,2017-09-06 15:29:02,">>140524175 hoppe was a civic",,Anonymous,,,,,1504711742 140501819,140529537,2017-09-06 15:31:06,"Does anyone on here actually have a ""bring ancapistan irl"" plan",,Anonymous,,,,,1504711866 140501819,140530396,2017-09-06 15:38:27,">>140529537 we must secede from the multi-national states, so support succession and Nationalism. From there support local states as opposed to Nation states. So do step one with me and show some love for nationalism, FUCK THE EUSSR.",,Anonymous,DImR2ZdXoAYyZWa.jpg,Ejt4ZDoIbB6GaAZiY+TfSw==,US,,1504712307 140501819,140530518,2017-09-06 15:39:30,">>140529537 On top of that buy land beat thing you can do is put land in private hands.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504712370 140501819,140530541,2017-09-06 15:39:41,">>140530518 Best*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504712381 140501819,140530883,2017-09-06 15:42:37,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1504712557 140501819,140530909,2017-09-06 15:42:55,Where to cop RWDS t-shirt?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504712575 140501819,140530998,2017-09-06 15:43:40,">>140529537 I'm going to buy land and homestead the SHIT outta it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504712620 140501819,140531196,2017-09-06 15:45:30,">>140530998 Same here, I'm not far away from getting it either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504712730 140501819,140531448,2017-09-06 15:47:15,,,Anonymous,1503044782370.png,0DgNl5Prur9CCJVEaayLPw==,US,,1504712835 140501819,140531673,2017-09-06 15:49:08,">>140529537 I think perhaps another, more conservative FSP is in order. First, screen members to keep out degenerates. It's fine if you're not on board with white nationalism and stuff like that, individualists are welcome too, we just need to keep out the dudeweedlmao fuck-heads. Second, rather than voting, buy up and homestead land as suggested above, though of course by targeting a single area. I think some portion of Alaska wouldn't be too hard for a start, but the resources aren't rich there, so sustenance could be an issue. Third, obviously, we secede. The less critical the area we take, the less prone we are to a Lincoln-style intervention. That of course does not mean we shouldn't stockpile all the weapons we can.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504712948 140501819,140532041,2017-09-06 15:52:07,">>140531196 I've got two years until my wife graduates college, then we're going rural",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504713127 140501819,140532058,2017-09-06 15:52:18,">>140531673 I think Alaska would be rough, and not far away enough to prevent retaliation from the guberment. I think the South would be best, we'll still have to fight the feds, but we'd have a place more people could migrate to, as well as having tons of Libertarian Confederates around with guns to back us up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504713138 140501819,140532110,2017-09-06 15:52:48,">>140532041 Sweet my dude, good luck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504713168 140501819,140532852,2017-09-06 15:59:21,"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod-and-ring_symbol >The Rod and ring symbol is a symbol that is depicted on Mesopotamian stelas, cylinder seals and reliefs. It is held by a god or goddess and in most cases is being offered to a king who is standing, often making a sacrifice, or otherwise showing respect. The end of the prophecy reveals itself. What could this mean? Could the aforementioned ""king"" be Kek himself?",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20170906-135848.jpg,pAtSALs3vylY23i31QXHWA==,US,,1504713561 140501819,140532854,2017-09-06 15:59:23,">>140532058 I suppose that's not a bad idea. Considering a war's abound no matter where we go, I guess we might as well go where we're most welcome. Considering how small our movement is, and considering how Hoppean/Rothbardian ideals apply best in small covenants, what state do you suppose would be best to migrate to?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504713563 140501819,140532962,2017-09-06 16:00:16,">>140531673 What happend to that old plan of taking over new hampshire?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504713616 140501819,140533296,2017-09-06 16:03:00,Have a rare Wojak,,Anonymous,this feel violates the NAP.jpg,+pruBW7XQejLWmTZpCDKsQ==,US,,1504713780 140501819,140533358,2017-09-06 16:03:28,">>140532962 It's a lost cause. Left-libertarians, degenerates, and disgruntled locals have distorted it into a failed meme. I think we need to find somewhere where the population density is low, the locals enjoy freedom, and there's enough resources that a secession could actually work, hence the South.",,Anonymous,They don't want freedom.jpg,vkF3AoMEtY2MtUV7CI70/w==,,,1504713808 140501819,140533798,2017-09-06 16:07:00,">>140502492 Here's a cool song for the music list https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g9dwTSXkiII",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504714020 140501819,140534187,2017-09-06 16:10:26,"Hey guys. Lets covenants it up in texas. Secessionists movement is strong, the only treason recognized is open acts of war. Letters or calls to states land management can get us legally recognized as a town ship maybe. Any kind of environment is available too",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504714226 140501819,140535466,2017-09-06 16:20:39,"I always thought it'd be best to move somewhere like maine, since non-whites are so afraid of the cold I guess that didn't really help sweden, though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504714839 140501819,140535883,2017-09-06 16:23:59,">>140535466 We could just, y'know, not let undesirables onto our property? Sweden's problem was that they opened their borders up and kept the welfare state in there. If we have a covenant with private property as rule of law (that is, with closed ""borders"") and no welfare state, we don't have to worry about the weather preferences of any potential invaders, because no one will bother us anyway.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504715039 140501819,140535946,2017-09-06 16:24:34,">>140535466 You've got the right idea tho, don't prohibit non whites, just be somewhere and have ideals that would put them off. That way they can't shut down our hatespeech.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715074 140501819,140536059,2017-09-06 16:25:27,">>140535466 Alaska would be better. Large areas of wilderness with no one living on it, large white population, lots of topography that makes for good natural defenses if it comes under siege. We should be looking for a place like Afghanistan, a libertarian graveyard of empires. Something really defensible and hilly, with lots of good places to hide out in case our cities fall.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715127 140501819,140536201,2017-09-06 16:26:37,"I have a question, who will ensure that the rules of ""le no rules"" are respected?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504715197 140501819,140536422,2017-09-06 16:28:17,Any Berniers here! up vote if you are!,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2015-12-22 at 02.12.38.png,1jPi79CcSTw337lRhw/zvg==,IE,,1504715297 140501819,140536436,2017-09-06 16:28:25,">>140536201 Libertarianism is not lawlessness. We expect a rather strict law based on property rights. Not necessarily enforced by the state, but it wouldn't suck if the state respected property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715305 140501819,140536495,2017-09-06 16:28:52,">>140532962 >>140533358 I never liked that idea in the first place. We'd just be acting like niggers trying to take over their state. I think it'd be better to aim for somewhere with no one living on it. Like Alaska, Canada, some patch of desert somewhere. If we can find an otherwise inhospitable place and learn to live there, then we have a huge advantage over any armies that might threaten us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715332 140501819,140536511,2017-09-06 16:29:00,">>140536422 There's no such thing as free bread sticks you fucking socialist!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715340 140501819,140536665,2017-09-06 16:30:18,">>140536511 Listen right, if you take out a loan of 300 trillion...you will be able to buy off your debt.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1504715418 140501819,140536676,2017-09-06 16:30:24,">>140536495 Man you need to be somewhere with a good growing season. It's gonna be hard as fuck to homestead Alaska or Canada.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715424 140501819,140536761,2017-09-06 16:30:59,">>140536436 Libertarianism is just a tool correct, not an end in itself?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504715459 140501819,140536926,2017-09-06 16:32:20,">>140536761 I would say that's an alright understanding, Libertarianism has no ""positive"" virtue. It's simply a respect for self determination.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715540 140501819,140537067,2017-09-06 16:33:24,">>140536676 How about buying land on uninhabited islands?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715604 140501819,140537109,2017-09-06 16:33:40,">>140536676 There are some solutions. If we could build an airport and get some trade deals with farmer south of us, we should be able to have enough food to survive. Or if we're near the sea, we could build a port and do the same thing. Or build a complex of climate controlled greenhouses. Or simply avoid fishing altogether and focus on fishing and hunting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715620 140501819,140537160,2017-09-06 16:34:02,">>140537109 *avoid farming altogether",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715642 140501819,140537216,2017-09-06 16:34:22,">>140536059 Rural alaska seems like a whole 'nother level of rural though A pilots license and a plane would be necessary if there was ever any kind of emergency",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715662 140501819,140537286,2017-09-06 16:34:53,">>140537067 Again islands are gonna fuck you, if you can't make it easy to get there people won't really join.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715693 140501819,140537439,2017-09-06 16:36:05,">>140537067 >mfw we buy up a bunch of uninhabited greek islands and restore the old glory of hellenic city-states",,Anonymous,bigz.png,a7S/11pWij+MidjutdHs/Q==,,,1504715765 140501819,140537464,2017-09-06 16:36:18,">>140537109 I don't think we'll be avoiding farming unless we have massive wealth to by produce and raw materials, which is hopeful thinking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715778 140501819,140537886,2017-09-06 16:39:35,">>140537464 There are methods of farming that can work in a harsh climate, hydroponics for example.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504715975 140501819,140538038,2017-09-06 16:40:51,">>140537439 >Tfw Libertarians of /pol/ create a white utopia before the Nazis, and then don't allow them in because they're socialists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504716051 140501819,140538532,2017-09-06 16:44:41,"Found this video, for those interested in homesteading the arctic. The speaker's a bit of a normie but he at least has some useful information if polar ancapistan ever comes to fruition. https://youtu.be/3Z_7NR7a0LE?t=34s",,Anonymous,,,,,1504716281 140501819,140539863,2017-09-06 16:54:33,-,,Anonymous,,,,,1504716873 140501819,140539938,2017-09-06 16:55:07,Bump,,Anonymous,ron-paul.jpg,8scIFu4lEbGuC2GIAac/DQ==,US,,1504716907 140501819,140540611,2017-09-06 17:00:21,Saved this from the last /lrg/,,Anonymous,1504666636111m.jpg,ctJ7gO3QqMEfj/zGFIqiJg==,US,,1504717221 140501819,140541279,2017-09-06 17:05:40,,,Anonymous,Dale Gribble telling it like it is.png,6jUN4qX0iLcQOIxF9nF8AA==,US,,1504717540 140501819,140541539,2017-09-06 17:07:56,,,Anonymous,1484522911043.png,OiwRKqhdVR+ihcs+ybT8Pw==,US,,1504717676 140501819,140541996,2017-09-06 17:11:21,">>140537439 >>140538038",,Anonymous,McGas.jpg,MOu2KPuAYIJ55ftzprAstw==,US,,1504717881 140501819,140543600,2017-09-06 17:23:44,"nearly shill free day, how nice.",,Anonymous,1503968492485.jpg,VrDtDweTHIuvbZShgPTSuQ==,,,1504718624 140501819,140544883,2017-09-06 17:33:27,,,Anonymous,snek (10).jpg,WeiEDcQayx0q3aRb3nKD+g==,,,1504719207 140501819,140546661,2017-09-06 17:46:33,-,,Anonymous,,,,,1504719993 140501819,140546910,2017-09-06 17:48:40,">>140546661 Hello goyim, would you like to take out a high interest loan?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504720120 140501819,140547022,2017-09-06 17:49:33,">>140504050 >>140504363",,Anonymous,quote-fascism-should-rightly-be-called-corporatism-as-it-is-the-merger-of-corporate-and-government-power-benito-mussolini-133351.jpg,SBHDppuw3PEfM2c0hgqSjQ==,HU,,1504720173 140501819,140547831,2017-09-06 17:56:47,"Cringe: the thread Why are you fuckers so desperate to fit in? You're no different to left wing anarchists, only difference is how you predict anarchism would work out.",,Anonymous,1502278208990.jpg,sIMyIdfH1ClI+oyjVxqs/g==,,,1504720607 140501819,140547844,2017-09-06 17:56:59,"tune in 44 minutes in to hear cantwell's latest update https://soundcloud.com/freetalklive/free-talk-live-2017-09-02",,Anonymous,,,,,1504720619 140501819,140547992,2017-09-06 17:58:19,">>140547831 >""fashy"" >not trying to fit in. embarassing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504720699 140501819,140548208,2017-09-06 18:00:11,">>140547992 This board isn't your private property. Fuck off.",,Anonymous,1501193426497.png,98K+UVyZzngtWvoB2kazRg==,,,1504720811 140501819,140548540,2017-09-06 18:03:11,>tfw don't have the knowledge or skill to power my homestead for hundreds of years using a small nuclear reactore,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504720991 140501819,140548613,2017-09-06 18:03:52,">>140523147 >human rights don't exist >property rights do How stupid are ancaps?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504721032 140501819,140548744,2017-09-06 18:04:56,">>140548613 Human rights do exist, but it is irresponsible to consider communists as human",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504721096 140501819,140548801,2017-09-06 18:05:23,">>140548208 Make me, nerd.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504721123 140501819,140549117,2017-09-06 18:07:51,">>140548744 Meme responses aren't arguments. Nobody is born a communist, it is behavior that can be unlearned just like criminality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504721271 140501819,140549368,2017-09-06 18:09:44,">>140549117 heres one, communists are for the abolshment of private property. Private Property stems from self ownership, therfore communists reject their right to their body. see >>140503470 its a flawless deduction.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504721384 140501819,140549731,2017-09-06 18:12:55,">>140549368 You are conflating your own ideology with marxism. marxism distinguishes between private and personal property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504721575 140501819,140550431,2017-09-06 18:18:27,">>140549731 >distinguishes between private and personal property. without a valid deduction to demonstrate and justify multiple categories of property. regardless even rejection and hostility to private property, outside of ""personal"" property would still justify acts of violence against them as a simple act of defense of property. There can be no tolerance for communists and democrats in a libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504721907 140501819,140551512,2017-09-06 18:27:05,Would you accept minimal wage raise if it was accompanied by corresponding tax cuts for businesses?,,Anonymous,1341578318237.png,lt1Na+iv/6T1wxOJ9VFOvg==,CZ,,1504722425 140501819,140551636,2017-09-06 18:28:02,">>140550431 Yes there is. Jesus christ, how can you fuckers claim to be right wing when you haven't even attempted to read the philosophies of your ideological opponents? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property Your ideal ""social order"" would inevitably require some kind of thought police to crack down on people sympathetic to marxism if you are truly so deluded into thinking that holding a belief violates your NAP. By extension of your logic, minarchists would have to be executed too as they believe in a degree of private property confiscation via low-level taxation in order to sustain the night watchman state. All this ""throw commies from helicopters"" xD shit is just an edgy and desperate attempt to gain the approval of nationalists on /pol/, which perfectly illustrates how two-faced you are given your kind will virtue signal about how socially liberal and anti-authoritarian you are when surrounded by liberals and leftists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504722482 140501819,140552231,2017-09-06 18:33:25,,,Anonymous,1500087261493.jpg,JOf/DVV1bXy5aOEtjYp0YQ==,,,1504722805 140501819,140552461,2017-09-06 18:35:22,">>140551636 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property >muh immovable property Duh, I know they make a distinction, but it is a subjective distinction. like I said, theres no valid, objective standard for personal property. you don't really believe this shit do you? >Your ideal ""social order"" would inevitably require some kind of thought police to crack down on people sympathetic to marxism yes. how new are you? We want police. Right wing is to order as left is to chaos, we are staunchly hierarchical and orderly in our beliefs.",,Anonymous,ORDER.png,6rFDv6/FV6AEc0JJOOJR+w==,,,1504722922 140501819,140552910,2017-09-06 18:39:08,">>140551636 >when surrounded by liberals and leftists. I don't associate with leftists, and I am very vocal about my beliefs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504723148 140501819,140553746,2017-09-06 18:46:23,">>140548208 >This board isn't your private property I beg to differ.",,Anonymous,1500170686551.jpg,24IDXIB2hvAGKCLsgj8sbg==,US,,1504723583 140501819,140554456,2017-09-06 18:52:41,">>140551512 please respond",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1504723961 140501819,140555061,2017-09-06 18:58:04,">>140551512 No, just cut the taxes and you'll get paid more.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504724284 140501819,140555175,2017-09-06 18:59:03,">>140501819 fuck off to >>>/bant/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504724343 140501819,140555817,2017-09-06 19:04:37,">>140555175 Are you trolling, genuinely retarded, or both? >>140551512 No because the number of employees (and thus the net cost of employing those employees at that increased minimum wage) is constantly changing with market forces. The government would never be able to keep legislation on the tax cuts allotted to the rapidly changing market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504724677 140501819,140556002,2017-09-06 19:06:13,">>140555817 I see, that makes sense, thanks.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1504724773 140501819,140558060,2017-09-06 19:23:18,,,Anonymous,1501011071071.png,ApVmsBijLAoa+GyahzXVBg==,,,1504725798 140672477,140672477,2017-09-07 17:09:17,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - LIBERTINE HATE EDITION,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,,,1504804157 140672477,140672538,2017-09-07 17:09:51,Fuck libertine scum,,Anonymous,Ancap.png,ekRLw3QrrHBNxuqdBs+hEA==,,,1504804191 140672477,140672627,2017-09-07 17:10:32,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1504804232 140672477,140672656,2017-09-07 17:10:46,"The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. Start with yourself. You must be competent, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Are you capable of raising children? Racial politics doesn't have to be the only factor of your life. And if you can't achieve such things for your self, then the chances are very high that you are not ready to be a political activist, either online or in real life. Because how can you make a difference for the race, for the lives of many, if you can't even make anything of your own, individual life? How can you make a real difference in society, when the greatest extent of your capacity is to be out-organized by jews on social media? Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet do not. Things aren't as good for us as they were for our parents. But billions of people in the third world would still kill to have the opportunities that you do right now. So take care of yourself! Work your ass off, every day, to build a good life for you, and for your family. Clear your mind of self destructive thoughts, and keep yourself focused on realistic goals. Work hard, but also do fun and wholesome things with real people in real life. That is very important. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life/",,Anonymous,04932832809.jpg,F6XcPgP/8VMly6XaudswIA==,,,1504804246 140672477,140672797,2017-09-07 17:12:08,">>140672656 yeah I agree.",,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1504804328 140672477,140672814,2017-09-07 17:12:17,Bump,,$4CHN:CcsU7F1nXgSpm384q4ndQGxG3VjfifNRQQ,,,,,1504804337 140672477,140672817,2017-09-07 17:12:19,,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1504804339 140672477,140672834,2017-09-07 17:12:32,,,Anonymous,NakedGuy.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,,,1504804352 140672477,140673019,2017-09-07 17:14:23,Bump,,$4CHN:CcsU7F1nXgSpm384q4ndQGxG3VjfifNRQQ,,,,,1504804463 140672477,140673093,2017-09-07 17:15:02,"HERES YOUR CANTWELL UPDATE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VteM8WGnD4k",,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,,,1504804502 140672477,140673172,2017-09-07 17:15:49,,,Anonymous,RR (10).png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,,,1504804549 140672477,140673204,2017-09-07 17:16:02,,,Anonymous,RR (1).png,nDQnAEKfvcs23XB8Dk8iOQ==,,,1504804562 140672477,140673215,2017-09-07 17:16:08,This ees good thread,,$4CHN:CcsU7F1nXgSpm384q4ndQGxG3VjfifNRQQ,,,,,1504804568 140672477,140673339,2017-09-07 17:17:09,Best thread,,$4CHN:CcsU7F1nXgSpm384q4ndQGxG3VjfifNRQQ,,,,,1504804629 140672477,140673425,2017-09-07 17:18:00,">I agree with Hans-Hermann Hoppe, the elder Murray Rothbard and many other libertarians that libertarianism is a right-wing movement and that our leftist elements are useful idiots at best, and a cancer that can only be cured by one-way helicopter rides at the far more likely worst. >When every effort analyze our political problems are met with accusations of racism, sexism and homophobia. When every demographic disparity is considered a hate crime and when libertarianism’s core demographic, namely white heterosexual males is systematically emasculated, denigrated and eradicated from the face of the planet, intellectual inquiry, economic stability and prospects for a libertarian society dwindle to zero",,Anonymous,,,,,1504804680 140672477,140673447,2017-09-07 17:18:10,">Here’s the truth that almost nobody has the courage to say: The reason why you are surrounded by almost entirely white males at libertarian events is because white males, with very few exceptions are about the only demographic capable of managing a libertarian society. That means in order for a libertarian society to exist, those white males will have to make their women subordinate and non whites will have to be largely if not entirely excluded from that society. >Luckily, libertarianism provides us with the perfect mechanism for doing this in the form of property rights. When we talk about a libertarian society, a true libertarian society absent the state, there is no such thing as public property. We are talking about total privatization of all resources, especially land. At which point discussion about public policy becomes rather pointless. We do not vote who gets to come across borders. The property owners decide unilaterally who they allow in and who they exclude.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504804690 140672477,140673499,2017-09-07 17:18:33,">Sadly we don’t live in a libertarian society and so we do have to take an interest into public policy if we ever wish to find ourselves living in one. For example the discussion of immigration seems to be a big division between the left and right of libertarianism. Regardless of any real or perceived legitimacy of the institution, The united states federal government is rather powerful and controls land masses commonly referred to as borders. For the united states to open those borders to every man woman and child throughout the world, to subsidise their breeding within these borders and to do all of that at our expense is a far greater violation of the non aggression principle than it is to exclude those people from our society. The common misconception of the left-libertarian is that so long as the government controls a resource that resource must be freely available to all. This is foolish, it is precisely why governments are inefficient and destructive mechanisms for organising human society. No such condition could exist in a society based on private property. Who could imagine in a stateless world that all of humanity could simultaneously exploit a resource without completely depleting its value or doing violence to one another in the process, this is what we commonly call the tragedy of the commons. Privatization eliminates this tragic phenomenon but until that privatization occurs it is imperative to our very survival that governments act as good stewards of these resources on behalf of their true owners; the taxpayers. That means a great deal of discrimination and violence done in defense thereof. >While I think we can all agree as libertarians that war is horrible and should be avoided in every reasonably possible way, it does not mean that we are compelled to leave ourselves defenseless against invasion be it by waves of hungry immigrants or by foreign military just because taxation is theft.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504804713 140672477,140673742,2017-09-07 17:20:51,,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1504804851 140672477,140673841,2017-09-07 17:21:40,,,Anonymous,snek (11).png,aes1atQN0BmNsNRfz9L98A==,,,1504804900 140672477,140673940,2017-09-07 17:22:26,,,Anonymous,1504537312442.jpg,k7QpB6GkbZWWJrDWX88ZxA==,,,1504804946 140672477,140674039,2017-09-07 17:23:22,,,Anonymous,MUHNAP.png,YKMhpCx9I/P9FFQtKb57Kg==,,,1504805002 140672477,140674141,2017-09-07 17:24:14,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1504805054 140672477,140674451,2017-09-07 17:26:53,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1504805213 140672477,140674722,2017-09-07 17:29:25,,,Anonymous,DEMOCRATICSWINE.png,5AsMMt445JBi27FuHhfg4w==,,,1504805365 140672477,140675085,2017-09-07 17:32:35,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (6).png,GswtS/nQpqWIyQdTLiXunw==,,,1504805555 140672477,140675131,2017-09-07 17:32:59,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (7).png,Ps0EkdLm4GTSaTkGmxi0Gw==,,,1504805579 140672477,140675382,2017-09-07 17:35:23,What's good my brothers.,,Anonymous,hoppe_.png,urrdlrmv0PcKNs6dBBRYfQ==,US,,1504805723 140672477,140675718,2017-09-07 17:38:02,">>140675382 Too many communist shills out there is what's going on",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504805882 141055453,141055453,2017-09-10 16:33:43,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,NoRoads.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,GB,,1505061223 141055453,141055637,2017-09-10 16:35:20,">>141055453 What's up fgts!",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1505061320 141055453,141055676,2017-09-10 16:35:42,"""Libertarian Right"" is an oxymoron. .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505061342 141055453,141055765,2017-09-10 16:36:24,>>141055676,,Anonymous,this_triggers_the_leftist.jpg,R/HF0mR8BcBvFjUdhsRN1A==,GB,,1505061384 141055453,141055852,2017-09-10 16:37:15,">>141055765 That doesn't contradict what I said.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505061435 141055453,141055961,2017-09-10 16:38:23,">>141055852 Well you didn't actually explain it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505061503 141055453,141055990,2017-09-10 16:38:36,">>141055852 no, but reality does",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505061516 141055453,141056213,2017-09-10 16:40:27,>>141055852,,Anonymous,screen-shot-2014-07-09-at-8-44-53-am.png,8NKq4vdJ4MJDsRA4q8DmDg==,GB,,1505061627 141055453,141056495,2017-09-10 16:42:53,"Liberty can't exist in a democracy, democratic nations always grow government, even nations like America that was built with liberty in mind. What small amounts of government there should be is best handled by a constitutional monarchy.",,Anonymous,1494989935658.jpg,OPpHWA9WW0EyKB1NTO2vxQ==,AU,,1505061773 141055453,141056507,2017-09-10 16:42:58,">>141056213 Libertarianism doesn't belong on either side of the Left-Right scale.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505061778 141055453,141056635,2017-09-10 16:43:57,"Man, I am so sick of having hoppe discussions in other threads derailed by ""but mentored by (((rothbard))) lol"". Ffs",,Anonymous,rothbardhuman.jpg,RGetp9fMgQK1sDndguegtg==,GB,,1505061837 141055453,141056878,2017-09-10 16:46:02,">>141056495 Explain?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505061962 141055453,141056909,2017-09-10 16:46:19,Why are right-wing faux-libertarians all drawn to crackpot Austrian economic theory? There are plenty of libertarian anarchists like Bryan Caplan and David Friedman who actually understand economics and can make an argument for libertarian anarchism within a neoclassical framework.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505061979 141055453,141056980,2017-09-10 16:46:54,">>141056878 people always vote their freedom away",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1505062014 141055453,141057011,2017-09-10 16:47:08,">>141056507 Depends what country you're in, the left and right wings of parliament isn't universal and changes per time period and per country. For example if you lived in the soviet union, liberty would have been a very right winged idea, but if you lived in pre-revolution France, liberty was a left winged idea. And in America, a nation that was born around liberty, the right wing/conservatives have a heavy overlap with liberty, and its the left in America who are always raising taxes and looking for different wealth redistribution programs.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505062028 141055453,141057148,2017-09-10 16:48:12,">>141056507 Left libs are socially and economically liberal (positive rights, egalitarianism etc). Right libs are socially liberal but economically conservative (negative rights, natural law, free markets)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505062092 141055453,141057350,2017-09-10 16:49:50,,,Anonymous,96232-004-6CB2006A.jpg,0KizzNFqtIWyHEcI14o7XQ==,GB,,1505062190 141055453,141057382,2017-09-10 16:50:08,>>141057350,,Anonymous,1502579105574.jpg,vNPbYnDp8s2qkWqmd3ArjQ==,GB,,1505062208 141055453,141057413,2017-09-10 16:50:24,,,Anonymous,1502948222966.jpg,cn7zYt0hboGsOYZ1jwY0SA==,,,1505062224 141055453,141057445,2017-09-10 16:50:36,,,Anonymous,hoppe-farsi-2016.jpg,I5wDeBm4O9Q/eTplLa2QFw==,GB,,1505062236 141055453,141057478,2017-09-10 16:50:51,,,Anonymous,1501752103185.jpg,c/V4a7hG0W3Jea1dRdXxog==,,,1505062251 141055453,141057515,2017-09-10 16:51:05,>>141057413,,Anonymous,l4x7ar6iks3y.jpg,+lEpUm21JJr15EI0WAv0hw==,GB,,1505062265 141055453,141057596,2017-09-10 16:51:44,,,Anonymous,1497200968896.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,,,1505062304 141055453,141057750,2017-09-10 16:52:50,,,Anonymous,hippity-hoppity-cant-afford-property-16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,GB,,1505062370 141055453,141057751,2017-09-10 16:52:51,">>141057515 thanks for sharing, that one was missing in my collection",,Anonymous,,,,,1505062371 141055453,141057850,2017-09-10 16:53:43,,,Anonymous,1501441918143.jpg,w4P3ol+d97b+fylz4dJhRA==,,,1505062423 141055453,141057874,2017-09-10 16:53:55,">>141057596 >Smash the State >But let the State rob us and use violence to enforce their gang turf borders",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505062435 141055453,141057973,2017-09-10 16:54:46,,,Anonymous,1499629139985.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,,,1505062486 141055453,141057999,2017-09-10 16:54:55,">>141056878 You can measure if you're free or not by how much a government body can break the non aggression principle against you. If you're in a nation like North Korea, and you cast a vote for liberty and it doesn't win, are you more free then someone in a country where the state only control law, boarder control and the army, but you cant vote on who runs that? The idea that democracy = freedom is a falsehood. How little the government controls you = freedom. And when it comes to democracy growing government at all turns. Maybe its just human nature, but it looks like we treat leaders who grow state power as the most competent leaders. Look at America, a nation built on liberty, they grew so large and wealthy off it. But even with their liberal roots they idealize the presidents who grew the state the most, like Roosevelt, FDR and Reagan. You just simply cant except the population to be able to control Government effectively.",,Anonymous,1494225821396.jpg,J0O9phpNEONchjuRLQIS7w==,AU,,1505062495 141055453,141058125,2017-09-10 16:55:57,>>141057874,,Anonymous,1502104642103.jpg,JAxwYC7ARKlyd1s4OfFYCw==,,,1505062557 141055453,141058319,2017-09-10 16:57:39,">>141058125 Why are you assuming I am a socialist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505062659 141055453,141058322,2017-09-10 16:57:40,">>141055676 >>141056507 >assertion without an argument You belong on Reddit, buddy",,Anonymous,1486260614190.jpg,mvx+YrQ1VLrXN/mvvSzIfA==,CA,,1505062660 141055453,141058380,2017-09-10 16:58:08,,,Anonymous,1502081312582.jpg,Dx9/Qg8SnksyOXTKxMoMJA==,,,1505062688 141055453,141058488,2017-09-10 16:59:03,>>141057413,,Anonymous,1492375447249.png,FAf+uA4aNYuBLx4dt5J2Cg==,US,,1505062743 141055453,141058536,2017-09-10 16:59:27,">>141058319 I am not assuming that you are a socialist,quiet the opposite to be precise. I just wanted to add to your comment.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505062767 141055453,141058553,2017-09-10 16:59:38,">>141057973 Just a reminder that Hoppe said monarchy is second best to ancap, as monarchy keeps the means of running society property, meaning the royal family wont bankrupt it as they have to pay for it themselves. As appose to the modern state that can bankrupt itself and just tax the public to pay for its incompetency.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505062778 141055453,141058610,2017-09-10 17:00:09,">>141058322 Why do right-wing faux libertarians admire a murderous dictator so much?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505062809 141055453,141058856,2017-09-10 17:02:26,">>141058610 Why can't Americans support their claims with good arguments?",,Anonymous,1484760860521.png,1PUEE3hoNYl5kg5KILW8rw==,CA,,1505062946 141055453,141058871,2017-09-10 17:02:37,">>141058610 It's largely for the memes. But he did kill commies and implemented some of milton freidmans economics via the Chicago boys",,Anonymous,d53.jpg,wS9YpzkZk92EN3C+YDcuJQ==,GB,,1505062957 141055453,141058967,2017-09-10 17:03:36,">>141058871 I thought Rothbardians and Hoppeans hated the Chicago school, especially Milton Friedman in particular.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505063016 141055453,141059071,2017-09-10 17:04:32,">>141055765 Anarchism is the abolition of hierarchy, Capitalism is impossible in a true anarchist society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505063072 141055453,141059233,2017-09-10 17:06:07,">>141059071 Who is going to stop individuals from developing hierarchies of their own volition? Ancoms love to ignore human nature",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505063167 141055453,141059247,2017-09-10 17:06:16,">>141059071 Anarchism is the abolition of unjustified hierarchy (i.e. enforced via the initiation of violence), capitalism is an example of just hierarchy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505063176 141055453,141059355,2017-09-10 17:07:11,">>141055453 Bumping for precision laser weapons as a means of anti-state warfare.",,Anonymous,death vs communism.jpg,HvYUSkC7nSAVHmqny6M+5w==,,,1505063231 141055453,141059456,2017-09-10 17:08:05,">>141059071 > 2017 > thinking people won't establish their own hierarchies",,Anonymous,Bern vs trump.jpg,d3ml8IKNOxy7W+uasfFipA==,US,,1505063285 141055453,141059491,2017-09-10 17:08:24,">>141058967 Yeah, to a certain extent - hoppe et al are Austrian school economics and think Chicago school is somewhat socialist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505063304 141055453,141059496,2017-09-10 17:08:25,">>141058967 hate might be the wrong term i guess but there is a lot of disagreement. Apart from the general direction (less/no government) they have very different roots and reasons for why they oppose government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505063305 141055453,141059533,2017-09-10 17:08:41,">>141059247 Communism is the abolition of heterosexuality.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505063321 141055453,141059537,2017-09-10 17:08:43,">>141059071 >live in anarchal society >make a product >hire some consenting workers to help make to product out of your property >you pay them for their labour, on an agreed price >capitalism is impossible in a true anarchist society Literally the dumbest fucking thing in the world.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505063323 141055453,141059664,2017-09-10 17:09:51,">>141059071 Only artificially imposed hierarchies",,Anonymous,1470622-Hans-Hermann-Hoppe-Quote-Private-property-implies-exclusivity.jpg,caOQIczEQH/o9P9aULA9Kw==,GB,,1505063391 141055453,141059761,2017-09-10 17:10:32,">>141059537 >""at least it's consensual""",,Anonymous,LOLbertarians.jpg,epAmD8wdd5Cn+GGrYMX9Hg==,US,,1505063432 141055453,141059931,2017-09-10 17:12:16,">>141059761 It is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505063536 141055453,141060000,2017-09-10 17:12:49,"People will never take Austrians seriously but they say stupid shit like ""MONEY DETERMINES THE RISE AND FALL OF CIVILIZATIONS"". Austrians are the only retards who think the choice of money somehow is the most important factor of a nation's long-run economic performance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505063569 141055453,141060040,2017-09-10 17:13:05,">>141059931 >(You)",,Anonymous,LOLbertarians.jpg,s857wUy3nRGGsRjO5uJoFg==,US,,1505063585 141055453,141060063,2017-09-10 17:13:14,">>141060000 *because they say stupid shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505063594 141055453,141060317,2017-09-10 17:15:39,">>141060040 >Companies who benefit from tax breaks, subsidies, bailouts, and endless lobbying. >Not the government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505063739 141055453,141060389,2017-09-10 17:16:16,">>141060040 When has any of these companies coerced you into purchasing their products or services?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505063776 141055453,141060422,2017-09-10 17:16:34,">>141060000 Quads of quality.",,Anonymous,,,AP,,1505063794 141055453,141060472,2017-09-10 17:17:03,>>141059071,,Anonymous,1504727522437.jpg,MJKTxu/WkV7Ljn60VANRCg==,,,1505063823 141055453,141060515,2017-09-10 17:17:31,">>141059761 The world doesn't owe you shit. Extreme poverty is natures state, and through labour we make society. If you don't want to labour and join in, thats fine. You dont get a peice of others labour in return. No ones stopping you from going into the wilderness and making your own society with your own labour, the very nation your living in was forged that way.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505063851 141055453,141060579,2017-09-10 17:18:06,">>141060472 No one wants to live in Hoppean covenant communities. There wouldn't be anybody to ""physically remove"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505063886 141055453,141060655,2017-09-10 17:18:55,>>141059761,,Anonymous,I-Married-a-Communist.jpg,SlqAJMluIDy22q145hXaBA==,GB,,1505063935 141055453,141060763,2017-09-10 17:19:50,">>141055453 Daily reminder that libertarianism can only work in a high IQ, homogeneous society with strong nuclear families. When the US resembles Brazil and Europe resembles North Africa, there will be very little liberty. Any libertarian who does not put border control as their top priority is simply larping.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505063990 141055453,141060777,2017-09-10 17:19:58,,,Anonymous,2439695420_e9a8a6f6c9_b.jpg,VQwFz6jq+J5FwgX1R/W5dw==,GB,,1505063998 141055453,141060837,2017-09-10 17:20:31,"greetings from germany, please remove more kommies",,Anonymous,anti communist action2.png,HvnsC4wIo5snziLC5KMazg==,DE,,1505064031 141055453,141060983,2017-09-10 17:21:51,">>141060763 >Any libertarian who does not put border control as their top priority is simply larping. This is why I've never been able to get behind the Libertarian party here in the states",,Anonymous,violated my feels.jpg,+pruBW7XQejLWmTZpCDKsQ==,US,,1505064111 141055453,141061114,2017-09-10 17:23:01,">>141060763 There is very little liberty in America as is with white people voting in authoritarians consistently for the last 200 years. At least foreign-born people aren't as eager as white native-born Americans to send our military full of thugs to go abroad and murder innocent people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064181 141055453,141061241,2017-09-10 17:24:13,">>141060983 You mean you don't want to get behind the Libertarian Party because you're not actually libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064253 141055453,141061296,2017-09-10 17:24:38,">>141060317 How to fix big corporations lobbing goberment?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505064278 141055453,141061385,2017-09-10 17:25:26,">>141061241 No I don't want too because of what this guy said >>141060763 please learn to comprehend",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064326 141055453,141061541,2017-09-10 17:26:49,>>141061241,,Anonymous,Hans-Hoppe-ořez-e1494337275956.png,FIa9cfUc/dY8l5h/jxmw4Q==,GB,,1505064409 141055453,141061548,2017-09-10 17:26:50,,,Anonymous,3065322-Janusz-Korwin-Mikke-Quote-Socialism-is-a-monster-which-will-die.jpg,JPyj5axWbNkVRzWxAsJAtw==,US,,1505064410 141055453,141061811,2017-09-10 17:29:14,,,Anonymous,HansHermannHoppe.jpg,xtPkhK2GHLtSwaNEwlJEaQ==,GB,,1505064554 141055453,141061899,2017-09-10 17:30:01,,,Anonymous,quibheinleinlifegirl.jpg,QWvJr8PzsapHiLFq4PNG/w==,GB,,1505064601 141055453,141062009,2017-09-10 17:31:01,>>141061241,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1505064661 141055453,141062091,2017-09-10 17:31:43,">>141061811 An ugly old man who has no relevance in academic economics or academic philosophy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064703 141055453,141062103,2017-09-10 17:31:54,">>141061241 Libertarian party is for faggot crypto-communists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064714 141055453,141062196,2017-09-10 17:32:49,>>141062091,,Anonymous,You vs him 45.png,0uMKRfphlGlKbKezBcFGNQ==,US,,1505064769 141055453,141062267,2017-09-10 17:33:24,">>141062091 Performative contradiction inbound.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064804 141055453,141062338,2017-09-10 17:34:06,">>141062009 This is retarded. Political borders are illegitimate, period. If you want roads to be privatized, then argue for privatized roads instead of demanding government violence against peaceful individuals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064846 141055453,141062399,2017-09-10 17:34:43,">>141062338 Privatize the borders you retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064883 141055453,141062481,2017-09-10 17:35:29,">>141062196 Marxism and Hoppeanism are both joke economic/political theories.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064929 141055453,141062497,2017-09-10 17:35:40,"A true libertarian would nuke anyone who'd try to violate NAP by imposing any ""conservative, traditional"" values.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1505064940 141055453,141062529,2017-09-10 17:36:03,">>141062497 You're having",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505064963 141055453,141062734,2017-09-10 17:37:57,>>141062091,,Anonymous,Hoppe.jpg,AJncu3hMuCcjzR0lglETSw==,GB,,1505065077 141055453,141062795,2017-09-10 17:38:31,">>141062399 What does this even mean? National borders are established and enforced with government violence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065111 141055453,141062948,2017-09-10 17:39:53,>tfw the socialist welfare state is embeded in your country's politics to such a degree that even rightmost party that is known as bunch of crazy ancapts would likely be considered barely centreright in the USA,,Anonymous,1428163328851.jpg,9+3XDwzeFgG348oEufmQew==,CZ,,1505065193 141055453,141063000,2017-09-10 17:40:22,">>141062497 Imposing, absolutely not. Allowing through voluntary association and contractual covenants, definitely. Only negative rights, ever.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505065222 141055453,141063241,2017-09-10 17:42:27,">>141062497 Guilty as charged.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505065347 141055453,141063243,2017-09-10 17:42:29,">>141062481 Back to the non arguments are we?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505065349 141055453,141063256,2017-09-10 17:42:36,">>141062795 And private borders are maintained with voluntary interaction, just like private roads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065356 141055453,141063439,2017-09-10 17:44:22,">>141062948 I feel for you guys with no right wing parties.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065462 141055453,141063448,2017-09-10 17:44:29,">>141063256 Immigration doesn't violate private property borders so I don't understand your point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065469 141055453,141063457,2017-09-10 17:44:34,">>141058610 Why can't you come up with an argument?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065474 141055453,141063470,2017-09-10 17:44:42,">>141063243 Just ignore him. He is just a Natsoc shill who gets the helicopter ride",,Anonymous,physically removed.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,US,,1505065482 141055453,141063554,2017-09-10 17:45:27,">>141063448 It does if the property owners don't want you migrate or even cross your borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065527 141055453,141063602,2017-09-10 17:45:51,Guys why has pol been such shit lately? There's so much anti-capitalist shilling lately. It's ridiculous. Is it leftypol or are the natsocs actually going off the deep end?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065551 141055453,141063769,2017-09-10 17:47:17,">>141063554 I own a house directly in Los Angeles. Immigrants have never trespassed my house. The government, on the other hand, routinely violates my property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065637 141055453,141063868,2017-09-10 17:48:21,">>141063602 Always Leftypol, don't worry to much about it, /pol/ will NEVER be communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065701 141055453,141063959,2017-09-10 17:49:02,"Wait wait, how would this libertarian closed borders thing work? Who would decide who is allowed to get in? Would it even be possible to get in? Gib a G*rman a quick rundown, bois.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1505065742 141055453,141063960,2017-09-10 17:49:04,">>141063769 Private borders are not state borders you mong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065744 141055453,141063964,2017-09-10 17:49:03,">>141063602 I know some leftypol nigs have been invading.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065743 141055453,141063999,2017-09-10 17:49:28,">>141063470 I'm a libertarian. I just don't like being associated Hoppean pseudo-libertarian crackpots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065768 141055453,141064021,2017-09-10 17:49:42,">>141063602 >are the natsocs actually going off the deep end It's called ""national SOCIALISM"" for a reason, mate.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1505065782 141055453,141064261,2017-09-10 17:51:54,">>141063439 >tfw we have libertarian party but they are unelectable so I'll vote for rightmost parliamentary party >last time said party was in government it enacted zero major right-wing agenda before tumbling down in fire of corruption tfw no matter which party wins the election we are stuck with one of gazilion shades of socialism for eternity",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1505065914 141055453,141064380,2017-09-10 17:52:58,">>141063999 You've never read or listened to a word of Hoppe, have you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505065978 141055453,141064480,2017-09-10 17:53:48,">>141063999 A libertarian society can only be founded on the ideas espoused by Hoppean",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066028 141055453,141064535,2017-09-10 17:54:17,">>141064261 Shit dude, just get out of there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066057 141055453,141065004,2017-09-10 17:58:39,">>141064380 Hoppe is irrelevant in academia, both in economics and philosophy. Judging from his crackpot followers, his books aren't worth reading.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066319 141055453,141065141,2017-09-10 18:00:02,>>141065004,,Anonymous,1490312441854.png,8YU5OaLs9RPW0aCmUY4EPg==,US,,1505066402 141055453,141065143,2017-09-10 18:00:03,">>141065004 Relevant ≠ Right",,Anonymous,,,,,1505066403 141055453,141065307,2017-09-10 18:01:41,"Made some OC this morning, please rate",,Anonymous,christopher-cantwell-1000x500.jpg,wYTVDSFZ+CxDFZ2B8SPIsg==,,,1505066501 141055453,141065367,2017-09-10 18:02:17,>>141065307,,Anonymous,Liechtenstein.jpg,UIymMZLhHs9RdXNgyhCLpQ==,,,1505066537 141055453,141065408,2017-09-10 18:02:40,">>141065004 So you have never actually understood his position, correct?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066560 141055453,141065447,2017-09-10 18:02:59,">>141065367 Also made this last night",,Anonymous,Lao Tzu.jpg,Rsw1Dk1pqb1Hstg8LcoWRw==,,,1505066579 141055453,141065559,2017-09-10 18:03:56,">>141065307 Beautiful, free Cantwell.",,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,US,,1505066636 141055453,141065562,2017-09-10 18:03:57,">>141065307 Thanks for proving that you Hoppeans have no commitment to the non-aggression principle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066637 141055453,141065660,2017-09-10 18:04:45,">>141065562 Cantwell is not Hoppean, he's Rothbardian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066685 141055453,141065672,2017-09-10 18:04:51,">>141065307 9/11",,Anonymous,images (1).jpg,3TdrmA2bsOWzMvh5erSpqw==,US,,1505066691 141055453,141065692,2017-09-10 18:05:01,">>141055453 Reminder: The NAP does not apply to (national) socialists!",,Anonymous,removeparasites.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,,,1505066701 141055453,141065754,2017-09-10 18:05:39,">>141065692 Those who reject self ownership may as well be my property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066739 141055453,141065840,2017-09-10 18:06:26,">>141065660 >>141065562 Hoppeanism and Rothbardianism are essentially the same doctrine, most of Hoppe's work build's up Rothbard's, no?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505066786 141055453,141065865,2017-09-10 18:06:38,">>141065672 whoops wrong size",,Anonymous,1494560462514.jpg,RMdnjA0FKay2ZdBkg/blIg==,US,,1505066798 141055453,141065876,2017-09-10 18:06:41,">>141058488 unions are commies and the nap does not apply to commies",,Anonymous,,,,,1505066801 141055453,141065950,2017-09-10 18:07:16,">>141065840 Yes, Hoppe has some differences, but it's mostly the same.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066836 141055453,141066054,2017-09-10 18:08:11,">>141065840 I like to think of Hoppe as what Rothbard would be if he was alive today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066891 141055453,141066069,2017-09-10 18:08:20,">>141065307 >>141065367 >>141065447 V nice mate. Maybe a touch more outline stroke or drop shadow on the hoppe quote - text gets a little lost. Lao tzu is aesthetic/10",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505066900 141055453,141066140,2017-09-10 18:08:53,">>141065876 I know, that's what makes all the more awesome",,Anonymous,McGas.jpg,MOu2KPuAYIJ55ftzprAstw==,US,,1505066933 141055453,141066151,2017-09-10 18:08:56,">>141061296 End lobbying, make hardcore anti-trust laws, etc. These people have far more power than anyone could possibly believe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505066936 141055453,141066483,2017-09-10 18:11:36,">>141064535 nah senpai still got the best laws in the eu luckily enough most of our parties (including socialist ones) are populist enough to adopt anti-EU stances and given recent EU's attempts at tougher gun control laws this includes defending gun ownership rights. I mean we recently passed constitutional amendment that while in effect does literally nothing (LITERALLY nothing) the wording implies right to bear arms and I am sure some skilled lawyer could interpret it as such.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1505067096 141055453,141066664,2017-09-10 18:13:10,">>141065562 Leftism itself violates the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505067190 141055453,141066758,2017-09-10 18:13:53,">>141066483 *gun laws in the EU",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1505067233 141055453,141066834,2017-09-10 18:14:30,">>141057999 also mob rule is really scary",,Anonymous,,,,,1505067270 141055453,141066861,2017-09-10 18:14:47,">>141059071 Anarchism is the abolition of coercive hierarchy. Capitalism is a strictly voluntary set of hierarchies, and therefore can exist without the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505067287 141055453,141066863,2017-09-10 18:14:47,">>141065307 >>141065367 >>141065447 Very nice",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-19-11.44.58.png,/MbdJUS60XdcupAhfbrGPA==,US,,1505067287 141055453,141066973,2017-09-10 18:15:46,">>141060040 Literally cronyism Every single company on there Nice argument, fag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505067346 141055453,141066986,2017-09-10 18:15:53,No fkn tread,,Anonymous,7e80486f5d5d89fa0837183d467c0f75.jpg,JabcRuURdoC0sKX4ql7Vpg==,GB,,1505067353 141055453,141067120,2017-09-10 18:17:07,,,Anonymous,fd00070de90ebe9f74cfe5f4b7f5ca41.jpg,pDfE56vnURCedk44sPIKzg==,GB,,1505067427 141055453,141067136,2017-09-10 18:17:14,">>141058610 Pinochet prevented over 1 million deaths. (Allende Goverment's own estimation of how many people need to die for socialism to be installed in Chile). Also the NAP does not apply to communists. Which has been deductively proven. Ergo Pinochet was a hero of Liberty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505067434 141055453,141067297,2017-09-10 18:18:37,">>141058967 well, we dislike it but it's still less bad than keynesian communism",,Anonymous,,,,,1505067517 141055453,141067302,2017-09-10 18:18:42,">>141055453 Without roads I won't be able to drive to the pub and get some VB, I need these roads to get to the pub. BTFO Ancaps",,Anonymous,roads.jpg,S1qs0k6WziTAO9U5j57mlQ==,AU,,1505067522 141055453,141067404,2017-09-10 18:19:43,">>141067297 >keynesian communism You are a caricature. You probably don't know what either term means.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505067583 141055453,141067446,2017-09-10 18:20:06,Pls no tread :3,,Anonymous,il_570xN.340271598.jpg,kMkJ+7iUn1F/WzxCV/EUMw==,GB,,1505067606 141055453,141067476,2017-09-10 18:20:24,>>141067302,,Anonymous,p r i v a t e.jpg,qchcpuW3GEsV+ULm+Tx2cQ==,,,1505067624 141055453,141067534,2017-09-10 18:20:53,">>141060389 this tbqh defy government and end up in prison or worse defy corporations and you might end up jobless and without their services but you can still live innawoods and grow your own potatoes but be okay That is obviously in a scenario where corporations dont effectively become the government with means to enforce their own will forcefully.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1505067653 141055453,141067686,2017-09-10 18:22:16,">>141060000 wow, you've disproven austrian school with just one non-argument! here, have a burger.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505067736 141055453,141067805,2017-09-10 18:23:20,"This'll learn you, you treading cunt",,Anonymous,Snake-bites-man-on-face.jpg,fU3KsSaKLqSKs6kf+PkOAA==,GB,,1505067800 141055453,141067878,2017-09-10 18:23:46,">>141060040 ignoring the fact that those are all corporations which are in bed with the state... no one forces you to buy their products.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505067826 141055453,141067917,2017-09-10 18:24:13,">>141056909 This",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505067853 141055453,141068004,2017-09-10 18:25:07,">>141060763 your daily reminder would be more useful on reddit where the bernie bro libertarians lead a godless existence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505067907 141055453,141068102,2017-09-10 18:25:55,">>141067686 Nobody needs to disprove irrelevant crackpot theory. The only people who accept Austrian theory are high school dropouts who don't understand neoclassical economics because it involves too much mathematics and econometrics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505067955 141055453,141068130,2017-09-10 18:26:14,">>141067476 Hell yeah private roads to go to the pub so I get all the VB, thanks.",,Anonymous,1482846937848.jpg,XcJI7tx0WP1//vb2X2vEaA==,,,1505067974 141055453,141068144,2017-09-10 18:26:22,">>141060837 AfD is a socialist big government party. Piss of, statist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505067982 141055453,141068262,2017-09-10 18:27:30,">>141061241 The Libertarian party in the US is a fucking joke. No sane Libertarian would support a democratic political party in the first place. It's all ayy weed lmao degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505068050 141055453,141068330,2017-09-10 18:28:04,">>141061296 End the government. End the state. No state - no lobbying.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505068084 141055453,141068450,2017-09-10 18:29:10,">>141068262 Hoppeanism and Austrian economics are jokes but you don't seem to mind them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505068150 141055453,141068633,2017-09-10 18:30:35,">>141062338 You have disproven Rothbard with just one snarky non-argument! Have a burger.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505068235 141055453,141068712,2017-09-10 18:31:13,">>141062091 >academic The place where gender studies come from? xD",,Anonymous,,,,,1505068273 141055453,141068820,2017-09-10 18:32:06,">>141068450 Shit, you really did made me think there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505068326 141055453,141069097,2017-09-10 18:34:48,">>141062948 yeah, europe's political landscape is sad.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505068488 141055453,141069416,2017-09-10 18:37:39,">>141069097 As opposed to America. Oh, wait. Both parties in America are 100% authoritarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505068659 141055453,141069428,2017-09-10 18:37:48,">>141063602 Constant raids by lefties. Natsoc larpers. Alt-Reichtards. Also many kids are outgrowing /b/ and feel the need to enlighten us with their deep ideas about economics and liberty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505068668 141055453,141069536,2017-09-10 18:38:55,">>141055453 >Be me >7 years old >Family Vacation in Lake Tahoe >Walking with dad by the lakeside >Spot a Yellow and Black Snake >Dad goes to pick it up >NO STEP ON SNEK >Snake stinks up my dad's hands like a skunk >Fast Forward to Present >10 years later >mfw Realizing that snake was an omen",,Anonymous,RealizationPepe.gif,ko8ADcZqQAurJ9HcZm2UfA==,US,,1505068735 141055453,141069546,2017-09-10 18:38:59,">>141063602 I myself have a hard time accepting this, but this is reality: Most people hate freedom.",,Anonymous,They don't want freedom.jpg,vkF3AoMEtY2MtUV7CI70/w==,,,1505068739 141055453,141069765,2017-09-10 18:41:01,">>141063999 no, you are a Libertarian (big L). which means you would be much happier on /r/libertarian demanding weed legalization and ay lmaoing all day.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505068861 141055453,141069985,2017-09-10 18:43:12,">>141069428 Hoppeans don't have deep ideas about economics and liberty either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505068992 141055453,141070094,2017-09-10 18:44:14,">>141065562 The NAP applies only to people. Leftists are not people. Because only individuals can be considered people. And leftists opted to give up their individualism in exchange of joining a collectivist death cult which aims a cocked gun at every liberty loving person. Thus killing leftists is self defense and wouldn't violate the NAP even if it applied to leftists. QED bitch.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505069054 141055453,141070365,2017-09-10 18:47:24,">>141069546 That's a female?! Also, talking about NH, right?",,Anonymous,1500336531683.jpg,XYJyoD9s79ajcpV5DXlVHQ==,US,,1505069244 141055453,141070493,2017-09-10 18:48:40,">>141069985 Sounds like you need the standby pic related",,Anonymous,1486107510992.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1505069320 141055453,141070503,2017-09-10 18:48:45,">>141070365 Yes and yes. That was a response to the Free State Project.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505069325 141055453,141070512,2017-09-10 18:48:49,">>141068102 Good work! You backed your non-argument with a barrage of further non-arguments. Your gender studies diploma was worth every cent!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505069329 141055453,141070895,2017-09-10 18:51:59,">>141070503 fucking boomers",,Anonymous,,,,,1505069519 141055453,141071174,2017-09-10 18:55:05,how do you plan to get rid of the state without a revolution?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505069705 141055453,141071557,2017-09-10 18:59:11,">>141069546 Freedom implies responsibility so I can understand why many people would happily give up theirs. Maybe humans simply aren't capable of handling too much freedom.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1505069951 141055453,141071910,2017-09-10 19:02:49,">>141071174 Secession seems to be the most viable option at this point, though history has shown that's typically as violent as any other revolution (for the wrong reasons, granted). >>141071557 I think another part of it is widespread entitlement. Most people are smart enough to realize they can't get free healthcare and other gibsmedats in a free society, so naturally they come to despise freedom. Hence I believe a gathering of right-libertarians and prompt secession is our best bet at ever getting freedom.",,Anonymous,confedracy.png,52CxPl87/7OEY9ES9pFoJw==,,,1505070169 141055453,141072153,2017-09-10 19:05:18,Remove yourself fucking anarchist leftist.,,Anonymous,,,,,1505070318 141055453,141072304,2017-09-10 19:06:50,">>141071557 Damn straight, true freedom - freedom to take responsibility, to stand or fall by your own actions alone - is a scary thing for coddled masses, mesmerised by bread and circuses, and reassured by gibs",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505070410 141055453,141072497,2017-09-10 19:08:38,"Liberarian right exist only on the internet, it is fucking leftist movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505070518 141055453,141072627,2017-09-10 19:09:56,">>141071910 >Most people are smart enough to realize they can't get free healthcare and other gibsmedats in a free society, so naturally they come to despise freedom. That's why gibsmedats are so politically seductive. Because people are terrified of responsibility, they're dying to hand it over to someone. Offer to absolve someone of responsibility and they'll do almost anything.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1505070596 141055453,141072805,2017-09-10 19:11:46,">>141057999 >How little the government controls you = freedom. That was actually Tocqueville's point all along “Nothing is more wonderful than the art of being free, but nothing is harder to learn how to use than freedom.”",,Anonymous,,,,,1505070706 141055453,141073149,2017-09-10 19:15:02,"May I suggest lads that you actually pick up some books & read them before pretending to know an authors opinions based on a few memes? You'd be surprised what you can learn from actually understanding an author. Like Hoppe's meticulous nature, Hayek's playful brain & Mises' unwavering certainty/courage.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505070902 141055453,141073359,2017-09-10 19:16:53,">>141063243 He's one of those redditfags that inflate their intellectual ego too much by claiming ""both sides are bad""",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1505071013 141055453,141073361,2017-09-10 19:16:54,">>141059071 >Anarchism is the abolition of hierarchy, Capitalism is impossible in a true anarchist society. Actually, today anarcho-capitalism is easier to imagine than ever before because of the invention of decentralized digital currencies. You can turn all human hierarchies and institutions into chaos, but as long as there exists an internet connection, monetary relations will still flourish",,Anonymous,,,,,1505071014 141055453,141073431,2017-09-10 19:17:33,">>141073149 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU",,Anonymous,1497669769848.gif,A/USZz8HPimPTZVP6dNojw==,US,,1505071053 141055453,141074262,2017-09-10 19:25:39,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505071539 141055453,141074452,2017-09-10 19:27:23,,,Anonymous,1504132663960.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1505071643 141055453,141074507,2017-09-10 19:27:48,">>141073361 This is so naïve, no in chaos you will not have internet, wifi, even electricity.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505071668 141055453,141074804,2017-09-10 19:30:35,"Learn more about infrastructure, and how we developped it, stupid libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505071835 141055453,141074946,2017-09-10 19:31:49,"So are there any plans to get Ancapistan going or what? What do Ancaps even do, politically? How do they plan to reach their goals?",,Anonymous,ancap flag.jpg,GQ6SFuQAcQkwyC7u9FLvHQ==,AR,,1505071909 141055453,141075121,2017-09-10 19:33:43,"Alright lads, I'm still looking for some material to include in a ""Red Pill Box"" to spread easy information to the masses. Small books, memes, quotes, infographics, brochures, damning information about the state every normie should know. Come election time I'm going to spread these like wild fire.",,Anonymous,RedPill.jpg,siQ5hCDmW9CS2WoDvvPFnw==,AU,,1505072023 141055453,141075307,2017-09-10 19:35:53,"Hi sweeties, I don't browse /pol/ for months, how are you?",,Anonymous,2.jpg,YDS5DzaBhUHTrdicJ0RwwQ==,BR,,1505072153 141055453,141075442,2017-09-10 19:37:12,">>141074946 Seasteading movement, free state movement, voting/political parties, non-compliance, supporting & developing alternatives to state functions (Bitcoin, alt media etc), spreading information to people, living our lives consistently with out beliefs etc. The freedom movement is growing world wide, the US needs to step up & sort their shit out. Wasted the popularity of Ron Paul, let it flood to fucking Bernie and turned the party into a mockery. Need to take advantage of the current climate it's rip for a third way.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505072232 141055453,141075488,2017-09-10 19:37:43,">>141074507 There will unlikely be ever a total, devastating chaos. Even in case of war or government collapse you typically still have basic utilities. Even ISIS has internet access",,Anonymous,,,,,1505072263 141055453,141076479,2017-09-10 19:47:53,">>141075121 I found some good ones on the Fed.",,Anonymous,end-the-fed.jpg,Z+2zxDIdj6CwmtD4UGrAgw==,US,,1505072873 141055453,141076528,2017-09-10 19:48:20,>>141076479,,Anonymous,rp12-end-the-fed.jpg,ilfYbJhy0WxijeoK2mw5zg==,US,,1505072900 141055453,141076574,2017-09-10 19:48:48,>>141076528,,Anonymous,215c0ff329da3294f1008a4e7df1e819.jpg,q3PND4Zava1KtxcVwIusGg==,US,,1505072928 141055453,141076665,2017-09-10 19:49:41,"Based Rothbard review of Star Wars: http://blog.reformedlibertarian.com/murray-rothbards-review-of-star-wars/",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1505072981 141055453,141076749,2017-09-10 19:50:26,"btw, I just read an article about internet access in ISIS, it's kinda bizarre. They prohibited personal internet and literally check people's search history in internet cafes",,Anonymous,,,,,1505073026 141055453,141077350,2017-09-10 19:56:47,">>141075121 Read Crony Capitalism in America, it's available for free on mises.com and full of damning evidence.",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1505073407 141055453,141077996,2017-09-10 20:03:13,">>141077350 >>141076479 Cheers",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505073793 141055453,141078868,2017-09-10 20:11:53,,,Anonymous,,,SY,,1505074313 141055453,141079545,2017-09-10 20:18:01,">>141078868 genius. SEZs seem to be spreading like crazy, thanks China.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505074681 141055453,141080136,2017-09-10 20:23:53,">company engages in blatantly anti-consumer, anti-free speech policy >people outraged, badmouth the company >libertarian man swoops into the rescue >""that's a private company, they can censor whoever they want, if you don't like it, you can start your own company"" >people shout and cheer ""thank you libertarian-man, we won't ever protest big business again"" >libertarian man winks, flashes his cape, flies away into the distance",,Anonymous,1500018436906.jpg,JtsGS+h8aSExBuI62vbe6g==,US,,1505075033 141055453,141080208,2017-09-10 20:24:31,">>141065692 lol NatSocs wouldnt even want to live in your liberia to begin with",,Anonymous,,,,,1505075071 141055453,141080824,2017-09-10 20:30:33,">>141080136 Libertarian Men need to realize that while technically correct it doesn't mean people can't subjectively hate and protest a company to try and get it to change its tune. You can be ideologically consistent & recognize a business owners property rights without being a cuck and slurping up their every decision. Ostracism, boycott, public outrage, protest etc are all perfectly normal things.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505075433 141055453,141081322,2017-09-10 20:35:24,">>141080824 I'm getting sick of seeing libertarians swoop into threads to defend Youtube, Google, Facebook....etc when they do this bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505075724 141055453,141081504,2017-09-10 20:37:08,">>141080208 you would once socialism destroyed your economy",,Anonymous,,,,,1505075828 141055453,141081599,2017-09-10 20:37:56,">>141081504 Not really.",,Anonymous,1482504929130.jpg,TdOVIEYxDsfAknYNuNlaJw==,,,1505075876 141055453,141081843,2017-09-10 20:40:30,">>141081322 find another site if you dont like. private property = private rules",,Anonymous,,,,,1505076030 141055453,141082042,2017-09-10 20:42:39,">>141059071 >Anarchism is the abolition of hierarchy Actually anarchism is the abolition of rulers, not hierarchy.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1505076159 141055453,141082089,2017-09-10 20:43:02,">>141081322 Those services can perfectly defend themselves, they don't need anyone's help with that. My point always was, when you upload your content on someone else's site, there is ALWAYS a risk that it will get removed. The safest way to store content is always on your own site that you fully control. The basic unit of internet property is a single website. So it will be best if people get back to having individual websites instead of storing everything in one centralized place which belongs to someone else.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505076182 141055453,141082292,2017-09-10 20:45:09,">>141081843 >>141082089 *SWOOPS IN*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505076309 141055453,141083966,2017-09-10 21:02:52,">Dresden >Hiroshima >The Holocaust Are white people the least libertarian race in the world? Is libertarianism possible in a white society? Maybe we should advocate for more immigration to dilute whiteness and improve the conditions for libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505077372 141055453,141084232,2017-09-10 21:05:36,So I hold Right Libertarian beliefs but I believe in Civic Nationalism as long as the populace is educated to a level where people who chimp out regardless of race. Basically rewarding those who are the best. Am I going to be an intellectual fascist and remove derp?,,Anonymous,1474452367836.png,MKshY9U0OkKxc0ffWwF6Ag==,,,1505077536 141055453,141085294,2017-09-10 21:17:07,">>141055453 >/lrg/ will defend this >Suppose that there is a starvation situation, and the parent of the four year old child (who is not an adult) does not have enough money to keep him alive. A wealthy NAMBLA man offers this parent enough money to keep him and his family alive – if he will consent to his having sex with the child. We assume, further, that this is the only way to preserve the life of this four year old boy. Would it be criminal child abuse for the parent to accept this offer? >Not on libertarian grounds. For surely it is better for the child to be a live victim of sexual abuse rather than unsullied and dead. Rather, it is the parent who consents to the death of his child, when he could have kept him alive by such extreme measures, who is the real abuser14 . Walter Block https://reasonpapers.com/pdf/26/rp_26_4.pdf >“Parents may try to persuade the runaway child to return, but it is totally impermissible enslavement and an aggression upon his right of self-ownership for them to use force to compel him to return. >“Applying our theory to parents and children, this means that a parent does not have the right to aggress against his children, but also that the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights. The parent therefore may not murder or mutilate his child, and the law properly outlaws a parent from doing so. But the parent should have the legal right not to feed the child, i.e., to allow it to die.” Murray Rothbard, The Ethics of Liberty (New York University Press, 1998) >>141084216 >>141084216 >>141084216",,Anonymous,1505091928072[1].png,IvU7PKgx39pq3o8ilKvwcQ==,,,1505078227 141055453,141085656,2017-09-10 21:20:52,">>141084232 My vision is, Right Libertarianism is a tool that can be used to advance your identity. Voluntary community- and school-based segregation is a perfectly libertarian concept, the same as forming organizations to promote your values and agenda",,Anonymous,,,,,1505078452 141055453,141085844,2017-09-10 21:22:45,">>141085294 Stop spewing your retarded bullshit, all problems like that are solved by community fundraising and making enough noise through the media",,Anonymous,,,,,1505078565 141055453,141086120,2017-09-10 21:25:39,">>141085844 >your retarded bullshit You mean Walter Block's bullshit",,Anonymous,,,,,1505078739 141055453,141086128,2017-09-10 21:25:44,">>141085294 This is where people should actually read Hoppe, his work on self-ownership & argumentation ethics really changes the debate in these scenarios but they are such absurd scenarios ignoring so many outside factors it's silly to waste time on but Hoppe is a good place.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505078744 141055453,141086789,2017-09-10 21:32:51,">>141086128 you think block and rothbard haven't read hoppe?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505079171 141055453,141087362,2017-09-10 21:39:03,">>141080136 >they can censor whoever they want Only those under contract by the company. >we won't ever protest big business again Protesting private practices is perfectly acceptable in the free market. Calling for government intervention (e.g. net neutrality), on the other hand, is indefensible. 0/10 shit strawman",,Anonymous,5bc.png,dUf84NNi8zTtOlmyO6VqSQ==,,,1505079543 141055453,141087506,2017-09-10 21:40:32,">>141086120 I understand that it's some form of mental gymnastics, but that example is really inadequate because any problem along the lines of ""my child desperately needs this amount of bucks or otherwise he'll suffer in an enervating and vile way"" is easily solved by bringing public attention to it and raising funds",,Anonymous,,,,,1505079632 141055453,141087514,2017-09-10 21:40:38,">>141086789 They're not gospel, there isn't one ""Libertarian way"" of approaching things. Rothbard loves playing with ideas, evoking conversation and making people approach problems from different angles, Block loveds trying to be controversial & Hoppe loves being methodical/crisp.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505079638 141055453,141089300,2017-09-10 21:59:05,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1505080745 141229611,141229611,2017-09-12 01:44:18,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Helicopter Rides.png,BxFayo6ta2C16wJvxZTIXA==,US,,1505180658 141229611,141229744,2017-09-12 01:45:59,">>141229611 Physical Removal when?",,Anonymous,1504358277271.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1505180759 141229611,141229790,2017-09-12 01:46:39,,,Anonymous,What is it.png,88R2i0cnyIVSx7T41M5IAg==,US,,1505180799 141229611,141229802,2017-09-12 01:46:55,">>141229744 Not soon enough",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505180815 141229611,141229844,2017-09-12 01:47:25,,,Anonymous,What's your problem.png,jHBTV9Khr6Tkw77yLF+CHw==,US,,1505180845 141229611,141229853,2017-09-12 01:47:33,,,Anonymous,1504358847318.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1505180853 141229611,141229862,2017-09-12 01:47:42,,,Anonymous,Open Borders.png,vg9kKDFzZtzubZYzrE7MQA==,US,,1505180862 141229611,141229903,2017-09-12 01:48:11,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1505180891 141229611,141229905,2017-09-12 01:48:13,,,Anonymous,Libertarians and Ancaps ready to be overrun by commies.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,,,1505180893 141229611,141229925,2017-09-12 01:48:31,>>141229905,,Anonymous,Libertarian Problems.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,,,1505180911 141229611,141229930,2017-09-12 01:48:36,,,Anonymous,nu v tru pol.png,elZ2/QXq1o51Xq0eeB1rAg==,US,,1505180916 141229611,141229936,2017-09-12 01:48:41,,,Anonymous,1504358309378.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1505180921 141229611,141229976,2017-09-12 01:49:14,>>141229925,,Anonymous,Libertarians.png,xZRxt3TOdF4lJeCxS6ej4g==,,,1505180954 141229611,141230000,2017-09-12 01:49:34,>>141229976,,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,,,1505180974 141229611,141230024,2017-09-12 01:49:57,>>141230000,,Anonymous,Libertarian Jews.jpg,BViQNelwDTGTFHzn3OpIFg==,,,1505180997 141229611,141230034,2017-09-12 01:50:05,>>141229976,,Anonymous,1504368613255.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1505181005 141229611,141230036,2017-09-12 01:50:06,"YEAAAAAH BOIs!!! What's every cunt reading? You cunts do read don't you?",,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1505181006 141229611,141230059,2017-09-12 01:50:33,>>141230024,,Anonymous,AnCaps.png,xeqbmAVCvmhUvzcJnQseYw==,,,1505181033 141229611,141230099,2017-09-12 01:51:04,>>141230059,,Anonymous,AnCap snail.png,aNnWzwXZHvxAP7wOlWykTQ==,,,1505181064 141229611,141230207,2017-09-12 01:52:32,>>141230099,,Anonymous,Fascism redpill.png,K95kbefwED2tyI8Ca+JKdg==,,,1505181152 141229611,141230266,2017-09-12 01:53:20,">>141230036 just watchin' the currency markets my dude, my fuckin STEM program keeps me pretty busy as far as books go. any new recommendations?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505181200 141229611,141230267,2017-09-12 01:53:20,">>141230207 >>141230036 AnCaps and Libertarians don't read",,Anonymous,pol nazi.png,/kncqe/RlaZDdP0buj5+WQ==,,,1505181200 141229611,141230309,2017-09-12 01:53:48,>>141230267,,Anonymous,Ancient meme of new and oldpol.jpg,YNyUAsv8m0ug8YwwxfLKWQ==,,,1505181228 141229611,141230401,2017-09-12 01:54:56,>>141230267,,Anonymous,1503494046078.png,KkAFDZvhNorCSyc4acUGyg==,,,1505181296 141229611,141230458,2017-09-12 01:55:51,">>141230207 That has got to be the most naive & vague pasta on this board. How closely do you guys actually follow it? To the same degree as Liberts & the NAP? To the saem degree as Liberts & Self-ownership? Or more of a guideline than a doctrine because that post is some serious dog shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505181351 141229611,141230477,2017-09-12 01:56:04,IT WORKS,,Anonymous,1504242173362.jpg,cn7zYt0hboGsOYZ1jwY0SA==,,,1505181364 141229611,141230536,2017-09-12 01:56:57,">Dresden >Hiroshima >The Holocaust White people are the least libertarian race in the world. Libertarianism isn't possible in a white society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505181417 141229611,141230654,2017-09-12 01:58:21,">>141230536 see you later, gator",,Anonymous,1504221327381.jpg,HINXZgfKULKdyCUyPpOiPg==,,,1505181501 141229611,141230677,2017-09-12 01:58:35,">>141230266 I think people should make sure they've actually read & absorbed the classics desu. Too many people just skip over them or assume they know what's going on but miss all the little nuggets & thought patterns of our authors in our traditions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505181515 141229611,141230739,2017-09-12 01:59:41,">>141230677 you are 100% correct there anybody got the reading macro handy??",,Anonymous,,,,,1505181581 141229611,141230822,2017-09-12 02:01:00,">>141230677 >>141230739 ah I found one !",,Anonymous,1491617931417.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,,,1505181660 141229611,141230844,2017-09-12 02:01:18,">>141230458 What's wrong with it exactly? >To the same degree as Liberts & the NAP? >implying that is followed Everyone has a different definition of what is covered under the NAP. Do animals have it? Do Communists have their own? Do children? What makes ""covenants"" any different than mob rule? On another note, why are AnCaps triggered by the word government? Not all government is bad, just like how not all corporations are good. It's naive to grant every individual poterntially unlimited power if they grow big enough, to say nothing of the current corrupt private corporations. How do you intend to stop Jews from banding together to rig the free market into being less than free?",,Anonymous,1465617893782.png,m+vq+HJQ/+rO+jmc2VaEkA==,,,1505181678 141229611,141231005,2017-09-12 02:03:41,">>141230822 Any undergraduate college microeconomics textbook is better than any of that trash under ""economics"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505181821 141229611,141231026,2017-09-12 02:03:56,">>141230844 >animals nope >communists less than animals >government no problem as long as it's legitimate, of course that isn't the case. Minarchism is a decent position in the short term, but you want a full-on fashy state eh? Hey, as a NATSOC aren't you anti-democracy? You'd be better off to support our position. The enemy of my enemy-- am I rite?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505181836 141229611,141231106,2017-09-12 02:05:12,">>141231005 I didn't make the graphic it's just some old graphic from a previous /lrg/, but I take it you don't spend a lot of time on mises.org?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505181912 141229611,141231326,2017-09-12 02:08:34,,,Anonymous,1504358347052.png,6rFDv6/FV6AEc0JJOOJR+w==,,,1505182114 141229611,141231340,2017-09-12 02:08:47,">>141231106 I used to be a Mises kid beforel I studied actual economics. Lew Rockwell & company are cranks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505182127 141229611,141231399,2017-09-12 02:09:55,">>141230822 Yeah there you go, it's the precursors I'm talking about though. The classical liberals, learning the actualy tradition of freedom that lead to where we are with Ancap. We're a bit divorced from our history, 500 years of enlightenment & liberal history. David Boaz book the Libertarian Reader: From Lao Tzu to Milton Friedman, I mean how many people have actually gotten stuck into Hayek & Mises? Or Locke/Bastiat? How do we get these conclusions of life, liberty & property? etc. I'm loving these older books, I mean they're not that old, Bastiat's The Law is a small book, 150 years old not a pain to read at all compared to trying to slog through Rousseau, I mean get some Rothbard into ya if you want but just be careful not to skip the link in tradition they have important arguments & an important basis.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505182195 141229611,141231495,2017-09-12 02:11:09,">>141230844 To continue on the NAP, it is unenforceable and leads to chaos due to multiple interpretations on it's meaning. No two Libertarians will have the same exact meaning. >>141231026 >animals >nope There are Libertarians that would agree, and those that would argue otherwise. I personally don't think animal abuse should be allowed because of ""muh property"", but then again Libertarians only think about themselves because they are fucking stupid. This isn't even getting into other potential shit, like how cutting into profits could be breaking the NAP in some interpretations, or how private security would work, how anyone would defend from a nation attacking, etc. >The enemy of my enemy-- am I rite? No. Night of the Long Knives happened for a reason. Any leaning too far in either direction is stupid and dangerous. You need enough freedom to ensure that resources are only given to those who work hard and take risks, while ensuring that people can't group together abuse the system. Libertarians just ignore the second possibility because the free market is infallible and has never lead to crashes or depressions - oh wait.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505182269 141229611,141231536,2017-09-12 02:11:42,">>141231340 >argumentum ad verecundiam Woah everybody, we got a badass over here What about Rothbard and Hoppe? When you say ""studied economics"" do you mean drank the Kool Aid on Keynesianism? I am a mathematician, not an economist, but you wouldn't be a big fan of fiat currency would you? How do you feel about the Federal Reserve and the IMF?",,Anonymous,zs4byvahrgkz.jpg,+4851Y1PbeUJgumxnyyvmw==,,,1505182302 141229611,141231628,2017-09-12 02:13:15,">>141231495 I am not sure of any point in post-feudal European history where the market was actually ""free"", but I can see why you feel that way. >>141231399 You are correct, any chance there's a good list we can copy-paste for new recruits and old fags to learn their foundations?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505182395 141229611,141231711,2017-09-12 02:14:33,">>141231495 Do you agree that ""personal property"" is a well-defined concept?",,Anonymous,pol-1.gif,0bw84rWrpTpCrpkfCCic7A==,,,1505182473 141229611,141231864,2017-09-12 02:16:59,">>141231628 >I am not sure of any point in post-feudal European history where the market was actually ""free"", but I can see why you feel that way. There will always be an entity controlling the market in someway, but that period is the closest it ever was to being completely free, yeah. >>141231711 Yes, but that's because there are laws and shit defining what that shit is, not because everyone in the U.S just suddenly decided to agree on the same definition.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505182619 141229611,141232047,2017-09-12 02:19:29,">>141230309 >pick that can up or you'll be charged for littering >TFW already being forced to pay their salary even without littering taxation is theft >pick up that can of slurp-cola (tm) or we dock your pay by signing up for a job with them you agree to the terms. If I feel like working for a place with different terms of employment then I have the liberty to do so. nazis can't into libertarianism",,Anonymous,statist nigger.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,CA,,1505182769 141229611,141232073,2017-09-12 02:19:50,">>141231536 >referring to Keynesianism for no reason >crank obsession with money and the gold standard Austrians are so predictable. I have no idea why you assume that I drank the kool aid on Keynesianism or the Federal Reserve. I didn't refer or allude to either at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505182790 141229611,141232095,2017-09-12 02:20:19,">>141231864 then we agree that the market is not truly free, and therefore subject to cronyism and artificial scarcity. I don't think laws define what property is, laws are generally reflections of appearances of contracts under english-style common law, so property law generally reflects practical usage as it refers to owned private property. Unfortunately you seem to be hitching the cart before the horse in your understanding of law, if you catch my drift.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505182819 141229611,141232099,2017-09-12 02:20:20,">>141231711 >When you think your personal property is your own, but it actually belongs to whoever is stronger than you",,Anonymous,reperations.webm,urXp5nL8NLuOEkK9NA0mEw==,US,,1505182820 141229611,141232226,2017-09-12 02:22:35,">>141232073 Ok, so what is your issue then? For me it's all about currency. >>141232099 that's a fair point most ancaps would agree with, but still it is undenaible that the concept of personal property is self-defining with no need for additional considerations for arbitrary usages of violence. That's pretty anti-NAP, y'know?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505182955 141229611,141232293,2017-09-12 02:23:44,">>141232073 So you are not into fiat currency then? How do you feel about the credit system?",,Anonymous,1502564607220.png,K3OIdemaIyHNCtX5yGZ13g==,,,1505183024 141229611,141232521,2017-09-12 02:27:35,">>141232226 >the concept of personal property is self-defining what the fuck",,Anonymous,1474961768068.png,PsuE8JPSb+XGlmMf6H8jRw==,US,,1505183255 141229611,141232568,2017-09-12 02:28:20,">>141232521 >personal >property need a dictionary, bucko?",,Anonymous,1482086840609.jpg,OT7PvFTaCc5nbCaYiz0Bkg==,,,1505183300 141229611,141232587,2017-09-12 02:28:45,">>141232047 >taxation is theft No. It's people realizing that you are stronger in a group than alone. Taxes help build trust and unify based on the idea that everyone is contributing. You can't fight a country by yourself, Anon, and you will never be able to afford private armies or nukes. >>141232095 >then we agree that the market is not truly free, and therefore subject to cronyism and artificial scarcity You don't understand, the market will never truly ""be free"" because either you will have a government regulate certain aspects of the market, or in the case of no government, you will have people grouping together for a shared interest. >I don't think laws define what property is There is a reason that, in the past, if a people did not have established borders and a big enough gov, they were taken over, no matter how they saw their property. That's one of the reasons why we stopped being hunter gatherers - so we could clearly define what individuals owned, and what countries owed so other countries wouldn't invade so much and so there weren't constant fights just to survive.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183325 141229611,141232664,2017-09-12 02:30:00,">>141232568 You have apples, I have fist now I have apples apples are mine",,Anonymous,1494456503078.jpg,6cyscrMMyHWU+0/bthR2CA==,US,,1505183400 141229611,141232672,2017-09-12 02:30:05,">>141232226 Does a minimum wage lead to inflation? I thought that inflation was always and everywhere a printing press phenomenon, but price floors aren't printing press phenomena.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505183405 141229611,141232706,2017-09-12 02:30:34,">>141229744 I see nothing wrong with the statement by peterson",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183434 141229611,141232720,2017-09-12 02:30:51,">>141229611 Private property is a spook",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183451 141229611,141232779,2017-09-12 02:31:46,Reminder that lib-rights/ancaps are just pussified egoists. Lmao.,,Anonymous,1496880945220.png,eL402hioQUdHBWSVu99CUg==,,,1505183506 141229611,141232844,2017-09-12 02:32:58,">>141232587 I definitely sympathise with your view of history, but fundamentally we differ about the necessity of market regulation. I say that two entities engaging in consented transactions without the need for third party arbitration, subject only to local/effective market pressures (ie: availability of resources, etc) is a good thing that should not be inhibited by additional tiers of meddling by supposed governmental entities. >>141232664 you have a fist, I have fully automated machine gun drones. >>141232706 honestly, neither do I. I didn't make the graphic, it's just propaganda, y'know?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183578 141229611,141232882,2017-09-12 02:33:43,">>141232844 >you have a fist, I have fully automated machine gun drones. Lel, you just undercut your whole argument. Like I was saying, property belongs to whoever is the strongest",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505183623 141229611,141232946,2017-09-12 02:34:42,">>141232779 here come the antifaggots >>141232720 if you really believed that you wouldn't even have a computer. buddy. Why not give yourself over to the proletariat, comrade?",,Anonymous,6952901d3b67576da7c21ea0f6bdc11c1a83f0d988eb783dec184c3a8c981362.jpg,9GXntgNEyNJOn84BtHbmJg==,,,1505183682 141229611,141232948,2017-09-12 02:34:44,">>141230844 I know what you mean about animals but the general gist of it isn't vague, it's pretty specific. The problem I have with that pasta is everything comes across straight up as naive & vague: > unless the business has a positive impact on the nation as a whole Who says? How is this defined? Who decides? What's to stop people approving under the guise of ""the good"" and rejecting legit business under the guise of ""against the public good"" this shit has been abused through all of human history. The whole image is rife with these vague terms and I just wonder if its an authoritarian order, how can this be maintained or assured or even set up in the first place compared to what people would actually set up, how people would actually act how they would actually use power as they always have you know what I mean? ""public good"" ""good for the society as a whole"" ""for the worker"". You know what people study economics they're observing human behaviour, this pasta seems to be deciding on how humans will act and I can't find out how this would be the case without specifics to implement and then maintain the order as desired. >>141231628 I don't have a graphic for it but David Boaz book the Libertarian Reader is actually a good start, it's not too hard to trace the tradition because they all sort of interacted with eachother at various times. I mean Mises was a huge inspiration for Hayek & Rothbard, who hung out with Friedman who hung out with Sowell. You've got Locke, Mill & Adam Smith, Bastiat popping up in French Liberalism, the resurgence of classical liberals with Mises & Hayek, Ayn Rand's offshoot, Leonard Reed keeping the flame alive & bringing people over, into Ancaps like Hoppe. You can basically trace the medieval enlightenment, british, scottish & french liberalism, into Libertarianism & Ancap. Hundreds of years of freedom lovers vs authoritaians we should be proud of. Also claim Lao Tzu (Daoism) as ours too because fuck statists to be honest.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183684 141229611,141232987,2017-09-12 02:35:26,">>141232882 My compound belongs to me, buddy. Bought and paid for. Wanna see the receipt on those drones?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183726 141229611,141233123,2017-09-12 02:37:27,">>141230059 >capitalism is the same as communism in terms of incentive to act unagressively Why nazis don't align with us is beyond me. Ancap means a free market where racists can discriminate as much as they want, what's the problem?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183847 141229611,141233175,2017-09-12 02:38:13,">>141232987 Buy or no buy, it doesn't matter. Can you defend it? Then it's yours. Can you take it? then it's yours",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505183893 141229611,141233197,2017-09-12 02:38:40,">>141232587 > people realizing that you are stronger in a group than alone Cooperation & community do not require collectivism. See mutual aid societies, charity, business, division of labour, trade etc. No one has to ""afford a private army by yourself"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183920 141229611,141233203,2017-09-12 02:38:46,">>141232946 >implying Let me answer both of your questions. Antifa/cuckunism/progressivism/etc is all equally spooky. I am very far from antifa/communist. Next, I (and presumably that anon) don't believe in arbitrary property, which is not the same as property. Obviously property exists, it's whatever I can control. If you can't defend your property, then it is not your property, it is mine. Therefore, if your ""property"" is yours simply because you claim it is, it isn't really yours. Simpler than the NAP, my guy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183926 141229611,141233239,2017-09-12 02:39:25,">>141232948 Good suggestions, not ancap but I also recommend Niall Ferguson's Ascent Of Money for a historical perspective on currency (a little lefty anarchistic but overall pretty good). >>141233123 Because these faggots are memeflaggers? I miss the old days of /pol/ and the Ancap-NATSOC alliance but unfortunately there's so many sliders and new fags that such things are impossible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505183965 141229611,141233256,2017-09-12 02:39:41,">>141232099 >>141232226 Why do you think ""it's all about currency""? Nobody else thinks money is that important. Economists generally think ""money is neutral in the long run"". In the long run, the national income is determined by the available technology, capital and labor. Austrians are the only I've seen who are retarded enough to think ""money determined the rise and fall of civilizations"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505183981 141229611,141233291,2017-09-12 02:40:25,">>141233175 Ok, so Ancaps have this thing called the NAP which you don't believe exists but nevertheless.... here comes the circular reasoning !",,Anonymous,,,,,1505184025 141229611,141233300,2017-09-12 02:40:33,">>141230536 Reminds me of how FEMA use the Waffle House Index",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505184033 141229611,141233382,2017-09-12 02:41:54,">>141232293 I don't really care. My interest is in labor economic and trade theory. We don't really care about money. Maybe I would be receptive to ideas about alternative currencies if Austrians didn't rave about money like retards at every situation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184114 141229611,141233388,2017-09-12 02:42:04,">>141233256 I don't think you are correct. I think you have not learned to think for yourself there, bud. It's all about currency, always has been about currency, and always will be about currency. Good luck !",,Anonymous,1502565650513.jpg,H1S/Eu0HRzD4nmbH+fSpnw==,,,1505184124 141229611,141233405,2017-09-12 02:42:18,">>141233291 NAP is in the eyes of the beholder. Look at my wife wrong? You get a fist. Misgender someone? you get a taser and a beating. Wear something funny looking? You get a bullet in the back of your head by some offended stranger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184138 141229611,141233522,2017-09-12 02:44:24,">>141233388 >Money is more important the available technology and supply of labor & capital underlying the economy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184264 141229611,141233560,2017-09-12 02:45:00,">>141233382 ""We"" bud, you're an undergraduate. I suggest ""you"" care about currency unless you want to be poor as shit in the coming decades. Back in 2003 I used to do some research work in ""signalling theory"". Who gives a shit about ""labour theory"" as some islanded division of theoretical economics? None of that is going to matter as automation totally takes over, you fucking scrub. >>141233405 I think you're getting a bit metaphysical about the NAP, pal. We Ancaps love the memes, but you are a bit lacking in your understanding.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505184300 141229611,141233584,2017-09-12 02:45:22,">>141232720 Wrong. My right to private property is enforced with the threat of death. I have plenty of equipment that can facilitate your death. >Come and get it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505184322 141229611,141233620,2017-09-12 02:45:59,">>141233560 lel, not everyone is you. Not everyone will automatically follow your personal autistic NAP definition",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184359 141229611,141233650,2017-09-12 02:46:26,">>141233522 It sure is! Although cryptocurrencies are a nice example of a technological solution to a complicated value storage problem. Just take a look at how BTC has eclipsed USD. Get used to it, dude.",,Anonymous,c330d918c9a62a82d509070b4299372bdc740e4b21baece190565d5749ab5364.png,5KaKyVpSsfKBXhySIhmswg==,,,1505184386 141229611,141233685,2017-09-12 02:47:16,">>141233584 Ok, so whoever has better equipment gets your property? sounds fun I hope you really do have the best weaponry. I hope you aren't assassinated by someone from 200 meters away, or slipped a poison tab in your drink.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184436 141229611,141233704,2017-09-12 02:47:32,">>141233560 I'm in grad school, bro. Funny you did research on signalling, which came from neoclassical economics, not Austrian theory.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184452 141229611,141233746,2017-09-12 02:48:15,">>141233620 another ad hominem, oh boy you sure are good at economics. You are admittedly ignorant about the history of currency so why not go check that out first? Sure is summer in here.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505184495 141229611,141233793,2017-09-12 02:49:02,"what is some good /lrg/ literature? i want to read more and be informed rather than lurking these threads. already read a lot of individualist philosophy, would be interested in more.",,Anonymous,0B90EE6A-CA77-40FB-8DDF-E3FC595AF578-474-000000D957EB4E4D.jpg,a5zujow1dlkEVeuJoNr6Xg==,,,1505184542 141229611,141233802,2017-09-12 02:49:06,">>141232948 >Who says? How is this defined? Who decides? What's to stop people approving under the guise of ""the good"" and rejecting legit business under the guise of ""against the public good"" this shit has been abused through all of human history. The government. It says in the thing. The government. People in the NatSoc government didn't fuck it up so I think we can manage. >I just wonder if its an authoritarian order, how can this be maintained or assured or even set up in the first place compared to what people would actually set up It is what is says it is, Hitler did what he said he was going to do. and the workers, the nation, and society prospered. Things that harm one generally harm the others. >>141232844 >I say that two entities engaging in consented transactions without the need for third party arbitration, subject only to local/effective market pressures (ie: availability of resources, etc) is a good thing that should not be inhibited by additional tiers of meddling by supposed governmental entities. That's all well and good, but shit like monopolies and price fixing WILL happen if you don't do shit to stop it. You people say ""people are greedy and will act on it, thus government cannot be trusted"" but completely ignore how not all corporations are run by saints, and thus they will plot together, as they are doing now. The early U.S is a perfect example of how minarchism is shit with the Articles of Confederation. States were fighting each other over profits and nothing could get done. >>141233197 >Cooperation & community do not require collectivism. But they require that you assist the group, and if the group wants everyone to chip in for shit, then you aren't being cooperative. >>141233123 >Ancap means a free market where racists can discriminate as much as they want, what's the problem? Yes, but it also assumes that Jews won't get together and do the same shit they've been doing for centuries. There is no self defense mechanism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505184546 141229611,141233822,2017-09-12 02:49:32,Nazbol >>>>Jewish crapitlism + muh rights,,Anonymous,kirino_nazbol_by_comradepepe-dadmaan.jpg,ueHxQ0O7+EspxUjsmh16WA==,AU,,1505184572 141229611,141233879,2017-09-12 02:50:23,">>141233746 I know more about economics than you. For example, did you know that there is an economy in human genes? If your genes aren't suitable to the economy, you will get bred out by people who compete more successfully. Simple supply and demand. That's why the working class is under so much pressure these days, they are being outcompeted by mechanical labor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184623 141229611,141233889,2017-09-12 02:50:33,Ancap is a ridiculous utopian fantasy. You will fall because you have no understanding of human nature.,,Anonymous,,,,,1505184633 141229611,141233895,2017-09-12 02:50:36,">>141233704 Yeah, so I have experience in non-Austrian economics back when I was in university. What do you know outside of your echo-chamber? Congrats for grad school. Hope you actually do something with it. >>141233802 We agree on many points, you know.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505184636 141229611,141233935,2017-09-12 02:51:23,">>141233746 Weird that Austrians are so careless about drawing conclusions from historical evidence. Aren't you guys the ones who claim that the study of economics should be purely theoretical?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184683 141229611,141233956,2017-09-12 02:51:44,">libertarian >right anons... I....",,Anonymous,IMG_7951_0.jpg,G8AEYDZ8ybLBed8CLx4ofQ==,NL,,1505184704 141229611,141233998,2017-09-12 02:52:30,">>141233879 >I know more about economics than you. HAHAHAHAHA have 1000 fun bucks, faggot oh jeez, mister internet man, sure doesn't look like it from your bullshit posting. Oh geez, I better be worried about your misusage of wikipedia entries or I might really be in trouble",,Anonymous,,,,,1505184750 141229611,141234024,2017-09-12 02:52:59,">>141233560 I love the state. Taxes help keep shit going, like roads. We need more regulation for the big tech conglomerate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184779 141229611,141234047,2017-09-12 02:53:32,">>141233822 Kill yourself (((bolshevic))) subhuman.",,Anonymous,1505158018367.jpg,/7RGD5ff473u+VBbFxixsQ==,NZ,,1505184812 141229611,141234059,2017-09-12 02:53:44,">>141233793 What's some stuff you've already read & what stuff did you enjoy? What areas are you interested in? >>141233802 That seems like way too much trust in the government for my liking, specially considering how much Hitler was betrayed and how on the ground level people wiht positions of power did what the fuck they wanted. Doesn't calm my fears of authoritarians in practice one bit. I don't trust the people implementing it, I don't trust the planners, decision makers & the people with given the power.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505184824 141229611,141234076,2017-09-12 02:54:00,">>141233935 I am not sure, but considering how autistically you faggots seem to pick apart everything we say without forwarding a single point is astounding. It's like talking to a poorly written chatbot !",,Anonymous,,,,,1505184840 141229611,141234117,2017-09-12 02:54:30,">>141233895 Austrians are more guilty of staying inside a thought bubble than anybody else. You dismissed me as Keynesian for no reason at all. That's the Austrian response to any challenges to their ideas.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505184870 141229611,141234142,2017-09-12 02:55:00,">>141233956 b-but muh natrual rights reeeeee nooooo stop >>141234047 non whites shouldn't exist. Get out faggot even Hitler didn't want that. Jewish capitalists are going to burn Along with their Jewish masters",,Anonymous,nama-cat-nazbol-gang-24172124.png,Qet7pysczmkt48rMCvwDkA==,AU,,1505184900 141229611,141234201,2017-09-12 02:56:00,">>141234024 That ""roads"" shit is a bunch of garbage. Taxes don't even pay the principle on the international monetary loans the states have. You guys are fucked if you don't solve your domestic solvency issues! >>141234117 more goddamned words and no arguments. You faggots eat semen on toast or something?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505184960 141229611,141234238,2017-09-12 02:56:41,>>141233998,,Anonymous,autism .jpg,gKkWC8O54y+uqFyw+by1Ag==,US,,1505185001 141229611,141234245,2017-09-12 02:56:51,">>141233956 According to prominent Jewish economists of the last century, you are far right if you want your economy free to be exploited and subverted by foreigners and Jews. >>141234142 Did you even read the fucking quote? Bolshevism is literal Judaism you dumb nigger.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1505185011 141229611,141234312,2017-09-12 02:57:55,">>141234238 0/10 >>141234245 lel",,Anonymous,DFgKcHmXsAAncbJ.jpg,7xKhVwqd56XX07GilNvPDQ==,,,1505185075 141229611,141234358,2017-09-12 02:58:35,">>141229853 The white rest on yellow background grinds my gears so damn much",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505185115 141229611,141234370,2017-09-12 02:58:46,">>141234245 liberalism and anarchism are clearly leftwing ideologies",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505185126 141229611,141234454,2017-09-12 03:00:06,">>141234238 Bro you're so good at economics bro, did you really go to school? Wow, I've never been aye.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505185206 141229611,141234460,2017-09-12 03:00:11,">>141234245 Yes I did read it. He says he's against the current white system of multinational, power Hungary corporations and the whole white system of killing your neighbor for more profit cause lol capitalism. mtv,gays,lesbians and anything else degenerate exists because of Whites not because of niggers in Africa. That's why it must be torn down and start back up.",,Anonymous,2xVXVUrz.jpg,xZNEwbeutCvaoDyCmwUPWA==,AU,,1505185211 141229611,141234472,2017-09-12 03:00:20,">>141229611 define ""individual liberty""",,Anonymous,,,,,1505185220 141229611,141234498,2017-09-12 03:00:41,">>141232587 >No. It's people realizing that you are stronger in a group than alone. Taxes help [brainwash the public into the false idea of collectivism] >You can't fight a country by yourself, and you will never be able to afford private armies or nukes. t. ""I have no idea what a corporation is"" Obviously the local militia will be a sort of community service type business in which the employees will keep up their fitness in accordance with employment standards and provide assistance with menial labor to the locals on a subscription based service in between training. This would ensure public opinion of the local military is positive and incentivizes people to donate if they wish. Additional funds go to R&D for more advanced military applications such as missiles, tanks, ships, and aircraft. Additional funding can come from local businesses who can sponsor the military for publicity and brand awareness. America spends $580 Billion annually on its military. Accounting for the fact that the government wastes money like there's no tomorrow and the fact that there are many many businesses and could be many local militias which could trade resources and the fact that the market incentivizes lower costs and more innovation and the lack of taxes incentivizes economic growth then it's a given that Libertarianism is far superior to anything else.",,Anonymous,tree of liberty.jpg,7fzUA8ERaD8bmWX1VyI2mA==,CA,,1505185241 141229611,141234499,2017-09-12 03:00:42,">>141234358 it hurts so good senpai",,Anonymous,DDCbpgiUwAE-tej.jpg,OIoSruQw3hPNnRoEv+UpNQ==,,,1505185242 141229611,141234619,2017-09-12 03:02:51,">>141234059 henry david thoreau, ralph waldo emerson, nietzsche, etc. i'm interested in individualism but want to learn more in ancho capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505185371 141229611,141234666,2017-09-12 03:03:31,">>141234472 Are you at liberty to do X? Why/Why not? Are you at liberty to apply your faculties & keep the result? Life, liberty, property or rather self-ownership, application of faculties, fruits of your labour. Yourself, your actions the effects of those actions. The freedom to control ones life without fucking with other peoples ability to enjoy their life peacefully. A big circle of respecting life, liberty, & property. All on an individual level, based on individual actions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505185411 141229611,141234698,2017-09-12 03:04:03,">>141234499 woops almost stepped into some globalism. >>141234619 >nietzsche >Ancap laughing Fascists.jpg",,Anonymous,gloablist niggers.png,5lA5wjLDOuY2zCUej3F2AQ==,AU,,1505185443 141229611,141234706,2017-09-12 03:04:08,">>141234370 I was being sarcastic. Libertarianism is not right wing at all and the only argument for it being right wing is an economic argument based on the last centuries literal Jewish economists defining of the left and right economic spectrum. >>141234460 He said he's against whites and for niggers and gooks. Jews aren't white, replace whites with Jews and he's right. It's marxism under a different skin disguising who is really behind it and it was started by literal fucking Jews. Fucking die faggot.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1505185448 141229611,141234743,2017-09-12 03:04:53,">>141234312 >mfw he fell for the gold meme",,Anonymous,gold price.png,IMSUIbdSDeVJI9iDPYHUKA==,US,,1505185493 141229611,141234790,2017-09-12 03:05:44,PRIVATE PROPERTY IS A SPOOK YOU RETARDS WHAT IS THE POINT OF IT?,,Anonymous,,,,,1505185544 141229611,141234804,2017-09-12 03:05:56,">>141234698 pic related >>141234743 haha yeah I'm so stupid with my bars of silver, property, and assets. lol wut a retard",,Anonymous,1502642352735.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,,,1505185556 141229611,141234829,2017-09-12 03:06:25,">>141234706 >He said he's against whites and for niggers and gooks Because the current whites are fucking cucks. I'm against weak purple haired cucks as well If you even read more of your own quote you'll see he's """"""""""anti""""""""""white because the current culture,values and dehumanizing model of the world is all created by us. By your definition Hitler was anti-white",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505185585 141229611,141234890,2017-09-12 03:07:22,">>141234790 I am not sure. Give me yours and I will tell you.",,Anonymous,1497372047117.gif,dpHWf9u77isL3Zq8mC/MRA==,,,1505185642 141229611,141234912,2017-09-12 03:07:50,">>141234829 >all created by us But it's not retard, it was all fucking created by Jews. Modern whites are a fucking symptom, not the cause.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1505185670 141229611,141234957,2017-09-12 03:08:39,">>141234804 YES THAT'S RETARDED DON'T YOU HAVE ANY EGO?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505185719 141229611,141234993,2017-09-12 03:09:18,">>141234619 So you're really into the philosophical side of things then? Rather than political, economic, historical etc?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505185758 141229611,141235018,2017-09-12 03:09:45,">>141233895 No we don't. I'm not a naive child who assumes that anyone who makes a business will be a saint. I can live with rules and I realize that what's best for me isn't the best for everyone else. The only - ONLY - thing we agree on is that the markets should be fairly free. You don't even think that somebody should, you know, stop people from rigging your own system. >>141234059 >specially considering how much Hitler was betrayed Yeah, Hitler was betrayed by hypercapitalist countries that would rather make a buck than do anything meaningful. They were betrayed by ""free market"" fags because surprise surprise, not all businesses are good. >and how on the ground level people with positions of power did what the fuck they wanted Literally doesn't matter. The quality of life in Nazi Germany was the highest in the world, and would have continued to be had it now been forcibly destroyed. >Doesn't calm my fears of authoritarians in practice one bit. I don't trust the people implementing it, I don't trust the planners, decision makers & the people with given the power. The thing is, people under NatSoc would 1: be educated on this 2: have guns and 3: have a consistent moral code While the problem of corruption for companies would be much lower because the Jews would be out of the country. >>141234498 Or, without government, people start shooting each other for resources, just like what happened the last time government was absent. >Libertarianism is far superior to anything else. False. Jews were able to get filthy rich off of the Libertarian system and easily corrupt it into what we have now. Libertarianism is too weak to stop changes from within or without. >community service type business How can you ensure that all Libertarians/AnCaps will have this system? You can't. For all you know, only a few communities would be able to come up with such a system. Even then, this military would probably need hierarchy, and it's child's play for someone high up to be bribed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505185785 141229611,141235089,2017-09-12 03:11:17,">>141234201 ancap isn't a legitimate political ideology and it will never be applied. I do not feel bad for bursting your bubble.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505185877 141229611,141235105,2017-09-12 03:11:07,">>141234804 gay snake memes son. The end of your Jewish capitalism nears. Libertarians are absolutely shit memes. Atleast the almost there fascists can trigger people You shall all be herded into a giant pen and when I give the order 6 million volts of electricity will come and make the """"""""""holocaust"""""""""" look like a joke",,Anonymous,winningtown.jpg,tzeDeUAsoNQBL1BHPXrQOw==,AU,,1505185867 141229611,141235110,2017-09-12 03:11:46,">>141234829 >>141234890 just wanted to let you boys know how much I enjoy watching you south pacific anglos chat with each other. As a Canadian, it's a nice thing to see. >>141234957 what do you define as an ""ego""? Are you Siddhartha Buddha? If so, good for you. If not, ehhhh >>141235018 >human >saint So if business owners are not saints, then politicians are? How can you have the capacity to prevent the rigging of a system without rigging it? Isn't that a paradox?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505185906 141229611,141235150,2017-09-12 03:12:12,">>141234804 >mfw he fell for the Silver meme >even worse than the gold meme >and this doesn't even account for inflation or the market average >mfw he invested in an illiquid physical asset",,Anonymous,silver price.png,cYwBF8iM5YlnIqbnwVWOGQ==,US,,1505185932 141229611,141235169,2017-09-12 03:12:42,">>141235105 >jewish >nazbol anon, I >>141235089 oh you sure showed me!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505185962 141229611,141235248,2017-09-12 03:13:57,">>141235110 BOUDDHA WAS THE FOUNDER OF RETARDED POINTLESS RELIGION LIKE THEY ALL ARE AS POINTLESS AS THE PRIVATE PROPERTY YOU'RE VENERATING YOU FAGS",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186037 141229611,141235283,2017-09-12 03:14:20,">>141235150 boy I sure can't wait to see where you are in 20 years!",,Anonymous,1487020967418.png,7pxzBOPQMBcE7IN8NsL3ZQ==,,,1505186060 141229611,141235320,2017-09-12 03:14:38,">>141235169 >nazbol >Jewish Choose one you dumb anarchist. Your either Jewish or Nazbol",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,EOBrV6xzc6RF2fKA/KDf+g==,AU,,1505186078 141229611,141235329,2017-09-12 03:15:07,">>141235248 your capslock is broken bonne nuit, tout le monde!",,Anonymous,1495088183490.png,p6fMCP4qI4DEcItDTPnaVA==,,,1505186107 141229611,141235359,2017-09-12 03:15:58,">>141233203 >I insure my property against theft with the local militia >you take over my property with your overwhelming strength >I send militia to reacquire my property and take your property for NAP violations and claim a portion of your property in my insurance claim >I now have enough wealth to defend myself and my property without help and so I withdraw from my militia subscription >Use my newly acquired wealth to support the less fortunate in protecting their private property >society continues until all households have missile silos and RPG-7s and anti-air defenses >AnCapLand is now an impenetrable fortress to even the United States >nobody attacks anyone else for fear of mutually assured destruction >additional funds are funneled into dealing with mental illnesses to ensure nobody is crazy enough to attack someone else due to everyone's fear of mutually assured destruction World Peace and Happiness for all assured by Anarcho-Capitalism",,Anonymous,9eleven.jpg,QSi/vrr3uG6HrcdPod3Z8A==,CA,,1505186158 141229611,141235392,2017-09-12 03:17:29,">>141235110 >then politicians are It's not about the politicians, it's about the rules they put in place. >How can you have the capacity to prevent the rigging of a system without rigging it? Isn't that a paradox? Who said NatSoc is in favor of democracy? There is a reason it's a one party state. We rig it because we are confident we are right, and we have the education, quality of life, and economic growth to show it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186249 141229611,141235400,2017-09-12 03:17:34,">>141234698 read this spoke zarathustra for your self. the ubermenche is the individual, not a race. >>141234993 Yeah i know it sounds strange, i enjoy the thought behind politics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186254 141229611,141235406,2017-09-12 03:17:37,">>141235320 are you fucking retarded?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186257 141229611,141235421,2017-09-12 03:18:00,">>141235329 I ALWAYS WRITE IN CAPITALS TO TALK TO RETARDED PEOPLE YOU SPOOKY FAG",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186280 141229611,141235457,2017-09-12 03:19:10,">>141235018 So your entire thing is ""it will happen the way I want it to because the right people will just do it""? I think you've got way too much faith in political parties, human nature & power. Also how do you answer the charge that Nazi Germany was massively subsidized by outside interests money and not successful in its own right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186350 141229611,141235516,2017-09-12 03:20:11,">>141235421 ok >>141235392 That's great if you happen to be right, no doubt. Good night, everybody!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186411 141229611,141235527,2017-09-12 03:20:19,">>141235110 >>141235457 >>141235110 >then politicians are It's not about the politicians, it's about the rules they put in place. >How can you have the capacity to prevent the rigging of a system without rigging it? Isn't that a paradox? Who said NatSoc is in favor of democracy? There is a reason it's a one party state. We rig it because we are confident we are right, and we have the education, quality of life, and economic growth to show it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186419 141229611,141235580,2017-09-12 03:21:35,">>141235457 >>141235110 >then politicians are It's not about the politicians, it's about the rules they put in place. >How can you have the capacity to prevent the rigging of a system without rigging it? Isn't that a paradox? Who said NatSoc is in favor of democracy? There is a reason it's a one party state. We rig it because we are confident we are right, and we have the education, quality of life, and economic growth to show it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186495 141229611,141235612,2017-09-12 03:21:49,">>141235283 Dow vs. Gold, 5 year chart That's a spread of almost 100%",,Anonymous,Dow vs. Gold.png,Z4fdoZ3s/1bKkKlN3nqeGg==,US,,1505186509 141229611,141235625,2017-09-12 03:22:07,">>141235400 for those who are sick and distracted by the herding-instinct, is indicated by the increasingly furious howling, and always less disguised teeth-gnashing of the anarchist dogs, who are now roving through the high- ways of European culture. Apparently in opposition to the peacefully industrious democrats and Revolution-ideologues, and still more so to the awkward philosophasters and frater- nity-visionaries >literally called anarchists retarded dogs >nah bro Nietzsche was totally an anarchist senpai",,Anonymous,tsar.png,JaC4cMrVh8KIwpltJ/hjsA==,AU,,1505186527 141229611,141235668,2017-09-12 03:22:56,NATIONALISTS AND CAPITALISTS ARE BOTH RETARDED WHY ARE YOU SO WEAK YOU SUPPORT SUCH SPOOKY THINGS AS USELESS NATION AND POINTLESS PROPERTY HAHAHA I'M LAUGHING AT YOU STUPIDITY LISTEN TO YOUR EGOS,,Anonymous,,,,,1505186576 141229611,141235705,2017-09-12 03:23:39,">>141235400 Yeah Ive found it hard to find purely philosophical works but you can sure find a mixture. Hoppe's argumentation ethics was strangely brilliant, even the old guys like Hayek & Mises sum out the liberal/classical liberal tradition quite well in a way that hadn't been consolidated & in english before. Have ever checked Ayn Rand out herself to compare to the other guys you've read? Interesting to see how they built their first principles & what not differently to get to similar conclusions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186619 141229611,141235878,2017-09-12 03:26:10,">>141235457 >Also how do you answer the charge that Nazi Germany was massively subsidized by outside interests money and not successful in its own right? By, number one, asking for the source you are using. If I know what supposed interests you are talking about, I can get into details.",,Anonymous,1439201427503.jpg,J+LeccTGC+BrJJ6dUsf32w==,,,1505186770 141229611,141235919,2017-09-12 03:26:50,">>141235705 >designing your philosophy based on arbitrary first principles rather than actual empirical results",,Anonymous,1504157719086.png,G2ZkzV9lU8ZWM95fXEUMxw==,US,,1505186810 141229611,141235931,2017-09-12 03:27:07,">>141235018 >Or, without government, people start shooting each other for resources, just like what happened the last time government was absent. Anarchy cannot be achieved all at once. It needs to be gradual. cut regulations here, cut taxes there, shut down a government program here and let the market take over Just as Fascism cannot be achieved all at once and also needs to be gradual, increase taxes here, take away property rights there, increase government programs, restrict freedom, take control, etc. If you take a gun to everyone's heads and say ""I'm the new leader"" you'll be assassinated in an instant because you didn't wait until you brainwashed the public into fearing guns and confiscated them all yet.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505186827 141229611,141236025,2017-09-12 03:29:09,">>141235878 WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IS NAZIS WERE INTERESTED BY MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE WORTH LIBFAGS THEY THINK ABOUT PROPERTY AND NOT THEIR EGOS",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186949 141229611,141236069,2017-09-12 03:29:56,">>141235931 >Just as Fascism cannot be achieved all at once and also needs to be gradual No, we just need to get into office my friend. Hitler started doing shit as soon as he got in. The Weimar Republic may as well have died the day he was put in.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505186996 141229611,141236176,2017-09-12 03:31:55,">>141235919 Deductive reasoning, a consistent idea needs to be able to be reduced to its core and build back up & extended again while maintaining comsistency. Philosophers do this in different ways and still arrive at similar conclusions its fascinating. The evidence comes as an effect but you still have to build from the ground up even if that ground is observable stats, observable behaviour or principles that lead to observable reality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505187115 141229611,141236198,2017-09-12 03:32:20,">>141236069 Nazi Germany was already crippled by WW1 AND the Great Depression you retarded nigger. He didn't need to weaken the citizens already because losing the war and the great depression did all the work for him.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505187140 141229611,141236321,2017-09-12 03:34:53,">>141236176 >not realizing that human beings evolved as tribal creatures >not realizing that arbitrary philosophies run in direct contradiction to evolutionary hardwired human behavior",,Anonymous,1505116936624.png,ET3keNczMKBvAnNMceK/dg==,US,,1505187293 141229611,141236536,2017-09-12 03:38:40,">>141236198 >He didn't need to weaken the citizens already because losing the war and the great depression did all the work for him. No it fucking didn't. He didn't get elected as soon as he ran for office, fucktard. More and more people voted for it, then he implemented it. The citizens weren't weakened, they just realized that the NSDAP actually practiced what they preached, so they voted. He actually put in effort, for years, then got elected. Once we get in, we change shit no matter who says otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505187520 141229611,141236916,2017-09-12 03:45:04,">>141236536 Are you legitimately retarded? When people voted for Hitler they weren't voting for ""Fuhrer of Germany's 3rd Reich Adolf Hitler"" they were voting for ""Prime Minister Adolf Hitler"". He was only able to become Fuhrer because the citizens were too weak to resist his tyranny and by redistributing wealth from the Jews to the Germans, Hitler monopolized power in Germany fully and ended elections. Hitler killed an alleged 11 million people of which 6 million were jews. That's 5 million white people who opposed him but were too weak to stand up against him because of WW1 and the Great Depression and 6 million Jews in the same situation.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505187904 141229611,141237249,2017-09-12 03:51:24,">>141236916 >they were voting for ""Prime Minister Adolf Hitler"" Exactly. He wasn't assassinated for turning the gov Fascist. It doesn't matter the reason, what matters is that it didn't happen. Similar reasons can happen again, you know. Like discontent with the current system. >Hitler killed an alleged 11 million people of which 6 million were jews kek, every time. I can't believe how far /pol/ has fallen where there are so many people that STILL think the Holocaust happened. There used to be Holohoax threads daily, and there was always that Macedonian autist who posted in every single one, BTFOing shills. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to know how /pol/ used to be you fucking newfag.",,Anonymous,Gas Chamber Doors.jpg,sAO+6TUacOIlzoHcN0qWSQ==,,,1505188284 141229611,141237279,2017-09-12 03:51:56,">>141236916 lel, Hitler was one of the most popular leaders of all time. Everywhere he went there were cheering crowds and fainting women. He rode around at slow speeds in an open-topped vehicle into massive crowds. He may have been one of the most popular European leaders of all time >muh 11 milion Get your facts right, pic related",,Anonymous,muh 11 million.png,ANO8ZkdqdqUEYapAFkbk/g==,US,,1505188316 141229611,141238076,2017-09-12 04:06:40,">>141237249 >>141237279 There were even multiple assassination attempts on Hitler that failed by sheer dumb luck and of course he can ride around in an open roofed vehicle when he confiscated the guns from the citizens. Here in Canada since we don't have the long gun registry anymore we can keep our guns off the radar so the horse gestapo can't take them. >muh holohoax wrong numbers so what? I live in Canada and if Trudeau decided on a whim ""we fascist now"" I could have him in a bodybag within the week with help from no more than friends and family within 15 kilometers and what we all have lying around in our house and that doesn't even factor in extended family, the family of those friends, their extended family, the rest of my church and their extended families, etc,. I could have a heavily armed militia of over 1000 fit armed men in a week just in the libertarian/conservative christian community in my local area. If I lived in Alberta as opposed to fagprovince Ontario I could add another zero to that easily with just the extended family of the aforementioned people in Alberta. pic related is basically the non-faggot local residents around here",,Anonymous,golly gee father I sure love guns.jpg,zw+fqYPhxv6bYWt57dIPeA==,CA,,1505189200 141229611,141238346,2017-09-12 04:11:53,">>141238076 >There were even multiple assassination attempts on Hitler that failed by sheer dumb luck Those were literally only during wartime, where people wanted to surrender so they could get off easy.. >he confiscated the guns from the citizens HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >Libertarians actually believe this Gun regulation was practically non-existent. The only ones not allowed guns were Jews and Communists, which to the Nazis, weren't even citizens. >I could have him in a bodybag And yet you didn't do it when he pushes Socialism because Libertarians are pussies and hypocrites.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505189513 141229611,141239826,2017-09-12 04:36:59,">>141238346 >implying it was only foreign enemies attempting to assassinate him >""the only ones not allowed guns were Jews and Communists"" and anyone who disagreed with Hitler in any way shape or form or had any belief that maybe jews or communists didn't quite deserve to die a horrible death and also Hitler ""definitely didn't kill all those people because the holocaust was a hoax"" right? >killing a socialist faggot PM when I can just subvert his control and vote him out next election public opinion of him is too high, killing him outright would be political suicide for the whole movement. Need to redpill more normies and if he tries too much of a power grab then public opinion will take a big enough turn that assassination will be viable You NatSoc niggers may think you can just go ""ooga booga we kangz now"" while flaunting your muscles and gats but people who actually understand politics and history know that's just not going to work. Like I said before if Trudeau decides ""we fascist now"" THEN I could have him dead in a week. Otherwise it's more complicated",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505191019 141229611,141240156,2017-09-12 04:43:19,">>141238076 And think about this: this is CANADA. What do you guys think the US is like? I laugh until my sides hurt when I think about libtards threatening ""much Revolution"". They don't know which end of the tube the round comes out of. Their ""Revolution"" will be over in hours.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505191399 141229611,141240311,2017-09-12 04:46:09,">>141239826 >implying it was only foreign enemies attempting to assassinate him I didn't say that, I was talking about the cowards in his own ranks. >and anyone who disagreed with Hitler in any way shape or form or had any belief that maybe jews or communists didn't quite deserve to die a horrible death Case by case thing my man. A passing comment is different than trying to form a party. >and also Hitler ""definitely didn't kill all those people because the holocaust was a hoax"" right? Correct. >killing a socialist faggot PM when I can just subvert his control and vote him out next election Who's to say they aren't rigging your elections, Anon? The media is pushing this shit, begging the people to think a certain way. It pretty much is rigged. >You NatSoc niggers may think you can just go ""ooga booga we kangz now"" while flaunting your muscles and gats but people who actually understand politics and history know that's just not going to work. People who understand politics and history would know that every Libertarian movement has been subverted and that Libertarians are pussies who give ground on gun control, on taxes, hell, on just about anything. >Like I said before if Trudeau decides ""we fascist now"" THEN I could have him dead in a week. Otherwise it's more complicated OK pussy. Like Canada is going to turn Libertarian because you can vote. Here's the problem you fucking moron: certain opinions are already illegal in your shitty country, he can just illegalize some more. Also, I love how you assume that more gov = fascism. Only someone who is politically illiterate (a Libertarian) could possibly think that. NatSoc only comprimises on shit that doesn't matter, other wise we fight for exactly what we want.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505191569 141229611,141242321,2017-09-12 05:24:50,">>141240311 Libertarian movements are subverted due to Libertarianism not being a popular ideology. Democracy used to be equally unpopular but WW1 was literally fought over the legitimacy of monarchies and the monarchies lost (tragic because monarchies are actually preferable to democracy imo) Libertarianism as an ideology has been gaining steam over the past few decades. Ron Paul's popularity is one huge indicator of that and Trump's presidency will have a huge impact especially considering his plans for reducing government spending by $3 TRILLION. When America sees the benefit of cutting government spending and regulations it will bring a huge change. It's not that more government = fascism but rather that fascism = more government whenever they feel like it because they can. >cowards in his own ranks You mean the people who weren't warmongering sociopaths? the people who didn't want to open themselves up to a war on 2 fronts? the people who didn't respond to every provocation like a nigger? You act like Hitler's actions were 100% justified but even if everything he said about the jews was true and he had 100% support from the people that weren't jewish then he's still a warmongering sociopathic fucking violent nigger.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505193890 141229611,141242743,2017-09-12 05:31:53,">>141242321 >fascism = more government whenever they feel like it because they can. No. >You mean the people who weren't warmongering sociopaths? the people who didn't want to open themselves up to a war on 2 fronts? Hitler did not start WW2, and his reason for invading Poland and for taking Czech. was fine as well http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm. Britain and France declared war on him, not the other way around. Hitler only fought Russia because they were prepping for an invasion of Europe while the war was happening. In fact, the only reason Hitler lost is because Libertarians and Capitalists in the U.S chose to keep the Brits and Soviets in the war.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505194313 141229611,141242934,2017-09-12 05:35:42,">>141242743 >fascism = more government whenever they feel like it because they can >No. no? welp, off to the camps for you political dissident. I'm not even talking about the fact that he took over one country or another but rather the fact that he went after EVERYONE. >In fact, the only reason Hitler lost is because Libertarians and Capitalists in the U.S chose to keep the Brits and Soviets in the war Another win for Capitalism, will NatSoc niggers ever recover? nope, why else are they so buttblasted all the time.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505194542 141229611,141243076,2017-09-12 05:38:13,>>141229611,,Anonymous,1504046174572.png,Tr7MVwwX7pkHSIsQC/DM6A==,,,1505194693 141229611,141243585,2017-09-12 05:47:38,">>141242934 >no? welp, off to the camps for you political dissident. Fascism and NatSoc only has government where it is necessary, not just anywhere ""because they can"" He didn't go after ""everyone"" either. He only declared war on the U.S, for example, because he wanted to support his ally - Japan. Places like Belgium and the Netherlands were necessary to beat the French. >Another win for Capitalism So do you think that the world is in a better situation now than if Hitler had won, or even before the war? Fucking everyone is in debt and we are at the mercy of Jewish corporations whether or not the market crashes. Crime is up, drug use is up, and there are more extreme Leftists than ever. Too much Capitalism hands Leftists the power to say ""this is the fault of all aspects of right wing economics"". All of these communists came from somewhere, Anon. I'm going to bed now, Wang Chong. Have fun with your civic nationalism.",,Anonymous,1443075318166.jpg,iQohsPrbCgNmz7AuAOgEGA==,,,1505195258 141229611,141244342,2017-09-12 06:01:09,">>141233889 >Ancap is a ridiculous utopian fantasy. You will fall because you have no understanding of human nature. AnCap is human nature.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505196069 141229611,141246853,2017-09-12 06:48:30,,,Anonymous,ancap-pron 02_.png,/7MztOy0QGaENiS4NnFxgg==,,,1505198910 141229611,141246986,2017-09-12 06:51:02,">>141244342 explain what you mean by that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505199062 141229611,141247141,2017-09-12 06:53:58,Shilled af thread today.,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1505199238 141229611,141247358,2017-09-12 06:58:05,">>141243585 >Believing government is necessary Wew lad.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505199485 141229611,141247435,2017-09-12 06:59:38,">>141247358 It's not necessary, just like cars, and planes, and modern agriculture aren't necessary. But they sure are nice to have",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505199578 141229611,141248743,2017-09-12 07:24:43,">>141247435 >Being cucked isn't necessary, but it's nice to be. That's what you sound like. Do the reading champ no one who has thinks states are nice things to have",,Anonymous,,,,,1505201083 141229611,141250633,2017-09-12 07:59:39,">>141248743 how is being a corporate bootlicker not being cucked, Rothbard fanboy?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505203179 141229611,141252165,2017-09-12 08:27:31,">>141233895 >We agree on many points, you know. >wants to empower profit-seekers and global capital over the folk and the nation state no semblance I see",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505204851 141229611,141253607,2017-09-12 08:51:12,">>141236321 >not realizing that every philosophy is arbitrary >not realizing that all information is ultimately based on something which we cannot prove >not realizing that even the ""le so pragmatic"" groups run into the same problem of infinite regress, and will therefore have to base it on an ultimate given",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1505206272 141229611,141254489,2017-09-12 09:04:18,">>141232779 >if i just call people i don't like spooks then i won't have to have a serious discussion on my beliefs that would inevitably cripple my poorly formulated worldview I used to despise commies, still do to a large extent, but now I mostly pity them. They're sick, uneducated wretches that have developed unreliable schemas as a result of their failed up-bringing (usually by degenerate parents and a biased, crumbling (((public))) school system).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505207058 141229611,141254921,2017-09-12 09:11:07,,,Anonymous,lrg_war.png,tRMUExZWMg6+EusS9aE7fA==,US,,1505207467 141229611,141254971,2017-09-12 09:11:49,">>141235150 >don't worry, my paper fiat currency is totally stable",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505207509 141229611,141254976,2017-09-12 09:11:52,,,Anonymous,1503068836714.png,HRoNF/YavNeFnX4g73BZpA==,US,,1505207512 141229611,141255091,2017-09-12 09:13:27,,,Anonymous,1491301617423.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1505207607 141229611,141255147,2017-09-12 09:14:21,">>141230024 For the millionth time now: >Rothbard Non-practicing >Mises Non-practicing >Friedman Not a libertarian, stop pretending he is. >Block Literally who >Rand Hated libertarians.",,Anonymous,Ayn Rand on Libertarianism.jpg,O/2MWTy9NrtiBFtcW45aYg==,,,1505207661 141229611,141255293,2017-09-12 09:16:34,">>141229611 Ancapistan is for cucked normies my friend.",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1505207794 141229611,141255455,2017-09-12 09:19:02,">>141255147 >Rand The Libertardian Godfather's waifu.",,Anonymous,Ron Paul AF.jpg,VOzezb0cLV0m6ydxxG+m2Q==,,,1505207942 141229611,141255855,2017-09-12 09:24:55,">>141255147 >Block >Literally who The Anarcho-Capitalist scholar who has published over 500 peer-reviewed articles, and written several books laying out how a stateless society would take shape.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1505208295 141229611,141255939,2017-09-12 09:26:01,"Im gonna be honest my dudes I read machinery of freedom but still dont think rights protection can be privatized effectively. Please convince me otherwise i cant drift further than minarchist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505208361 141229611,141256414,2017-09-12 09:32:17,">>141254921 now why wouldn't the defense firms seize power to themselves? the gains are massive - establishment of aristocracy - and any single company trying to defect would have the rest of the industry become its enemy. and don't give me the ""da gubberment or gorborations cant fight mah ar-15"" bullshite",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505208737 141229611,141256588,2017-09-12 09:34:44,">>141255147 >Friedman >Not a libertarian He just wasn't mentally retarded as yourself",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1505208884 141229611,141257629,2017-09-12 09:48:12,bump,,Anonymous,absolutely treaded.png,yp/6grI6jZPtJVzq6PmGlw==,,,1505209692 141229611,141258681,2017-09-12 10:03:13,">>141229611 what is your opinion on cryptos? not as a competitive currency. rather is it (((crypto)))?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505210593 141229611,141259369,2017-09-12 10:12:47,">>141258681 It's great, great, great. Perfect for crowdfunding and fundraising. The prospects are bright with cryptocurrencies that solve bitcoin's problems: you have proof of stake that requires no mining on GPUs, you have cryptos with untraceable transactions like Monero etc. And NameCoin is literally a block-chain based DNS, you can get a .bit domain that no faggot registrar will take down.",,Anonymous,rrrrr.png,8SysthkOV8ImJFmMp4Ua4A==,,,1505211167 141229611,141260253,2017-09-12 10:25:35,">>141233802 >But they require that you assist the group, and if the group wants everyone to chip in for shit, then you aren't being cooperative. If you don't chip in, then you aren't part of the group. If you do, then you are. You don't need to put a gun to someone's head and force them to participate in the community for them to do so. Humans are social creatures after all",,Anonymous,,,,,1505211935 141229611,141262436,2017-09-12 10:53:58,bmp,,Anonymous,,,,,1505213638 141229611,141263423,2017-09-12 11:08:07,">>141260253 Maybe you could have something like that in a virtuous 16th century small town, but hardly in this timeline we live in. In the 1800s, we saw that charity isn't sufficient in dealing with public issues of a modern society. Sometimes you could change a few words, and one would think that you guys are commies talking about the New Soviet man desu.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505214487 141229611,141263922,2017-09-12 11:14:49,,,Anonymous,hoppe7.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1505214889 141229611,141264149,2017-09-12 11:17:53,">>141263423 >e saw that charity isn't sufficient in dealing with public issues of a modern society. sometimes you don't even have to change a few words and one would think you are a commie",,Anonymous,yuno35.png,qQAh0O5a/cz4RfOlRG7Kmw==,,,1505215073 141229611,141264471,2017-09-12 11:22:26,">>141264149 What a bad argument. You can't see nuance from your pseudoscientific praxeology dogma.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505215346 141229611,141264495,2017-09-12 11:22:45,">>141244342 The recent immigration crisis has made me realize Anarcho-capitalism is an Anglo conceit which stems from our notions of extreme individualism. The idea of a universal libertarian ethic like the NAP is insane. It could perhaps work as a foundational principle in a tightly-knit WASP community with honorable natural elites setting the example from above. Our Anglo notion of individuality over the group is COMPLETELY antithetical to the way most humans behave. Most are intensely tribal and group-oriented and have nothing but contempt for ""The Other."" Look what happened in Libya after order broke down following Gaddafi's fall. Perhaps order is preferable to liberty, a thought I never believed would cross my mind while devouring Rothbard's works!",,Anonymous,libya.png,pExjRmvebOS3eossWJPfcA==,US,,1505215365 141229611,141264664,2017-09-12 11:25:17,">>141264471 [spoiler:lit]your modern society will burn to the ground and hierarchies and old values will arise [/spoiler:lit]",,Anonymous,sora what are we fighting for.jpg,yx8oKXQGuCxrv8SbfRqR6Q==,,,1505215517 141229611,141264871,2017-09-12 11:27:54,">>141264664 >old values >neoliberalism ok. By the way, you probably wouldn't be the guy running Nestle, if that's the fantasy in your head",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505215674 141229611,141265071,2017-09-12 11:30:18,">>141255855 He also ran track with Bernie Sanders in high school. Sanders even signed Block's yearbook. I shit you not!",,Anonymous,barniesandlers.jpg,BxIhu/gw7H3+DgGjzOzUvw==,US,,1505215818 141229611,141265087,2017-09-12 11:30:27,">>141264871 what has neoliberalism to do with /lrg/, it has nithing to do with free markets classical liberal can stay, when they finally give up on democracy as far as I care.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505215827 141229611,141265637,2017-09-12 11:37:13,">>141265087 >Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] refers primarily to the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 These include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade,[3] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[11] you're doing that raised to the tenth power. capitalism in ideology and values. of course in addition, you have your ""new anarcho-capitalist man"" myth thrown in there",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505216233 141229611,141265857,2017-09-12 11:39:42,">>141255455 Rothbard and Rand hated each other. >>141255855 I've been bested, here. >>141256588 Monetarism isn't libertarian. If you support the use of the Federal Reserve, you're a statist cuck and deserve a helicopter ride.",,Anonymous,confedrate.png,f0i/D2BJadzn45UlS9XMaw==,,,1505216382 141229611,141266054,2017-09-12 11:42:02,">>141265637 If the state decides who gets contracts it is not a free market, if the state privatise his railway system to one corporation it is not a free market. If you are in a mindset that every human has the same value it is not a free market capitalism isn't an ideology it is just the sum of all human interaction that takes place in a certain area. And those interaction are just an expression of the state of mind of given society. you can't raise your society to a higher level while interfering with their daily life. This will only breed more and more degeneracy until the point where all brakes down.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505216522 141229611,141266199,2017-09-12 11:43:58,">>141229744 Need to know when this is going to happen, been looking forward to it for a long time",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505216638 141229611,141266254,2017-09-12 11:44:43,">>141263922 Ayy my favorite fascist!",,Anonymous,christophercantwell1000x500.jpg,wYTVDSFZ+CxDFZ2B8SPIsg==,US,,1505216683 141229611,141266362,2017-09-12 11:45:48,">>141266254 hello greatest ally",,Anonymous,ancap chan removes ou.jpg,Ms+Oxh3Zjb7stzWHvO77JA==,,,1505216748 141229611,141266414,2017-09-12 11:46:32,">>141230677 This. I've been reading books on politics and philosophy for a while now and am only now reading Plato and Aristotle. I'm quickly realizing how many aspects of so many books flew over my head because I didn't have the basics down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505216792 141229611,141266593,2017-09-12 11:48:32,">hates central banks >hates democracy >hates paper money >hates looting >pro hierarchies >natural order >pro private property what's not to love about /lrg/",,Anonymous,ancap4.jpg,itsVg3GfQE00s0vfqOLpUw==,,,1505216912 141229611,141266795,2017-09-12 11:50:52,">>141266054 >If the state decides who gets contracts it is not a free market, if the state privatise his railway system to one corporation it is not a free market. still, the foundation of neoliberalism is that free market are generally better. you just think they are EVEN better >If you are in a mindset that every human has the same value it is not a free market what does that even have to do with markets? you're basically making up your own definitions by now >capitalism isn't an ideology it is just the sum of all human interaction that takes place in a certain area. if you actively enforce certain rights, like private property, we're clearly talking about an ideology. you can't be this blind; you must see the contingency of your own thinking, mate. >you can't raise your society to a higher level while interfering with their daily life. This will only breed more and more degeneracy until the point where all brakes down. I disagree. Besides, powerful corporations could interfere with your life in various ways, for they command so much resources",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505217052 141229611,141267475,2017-09-12 11:58:31,">>141266795 >still, the foundation of neoliberalism is that free market are generally better. maybe, but their ways are anti free market >what does that even have to do with markets? have you ever spoken with an neoliberal equality and antidiscrimination are essential points for them >if you actively enforce certain rights, like private property, we're clearly talking about an ideology. If by nature a certain way of life prevailed it is not an ideology, because at the time people started to define property there where no such things as ideologies around >that's why you always have to be ready to defend yourself and your property, because corpration could only interfere with your life if they commit acts of aggression against you and besides corporations are still owned by normal people and not all people are evil are you by any chance a fanboy of the identitarian movement, because you sound like one.",,Anonymous,mariemaia.jpg,6qC2XJjSnf9GN7RujlDSgg==,,,1505217511 141229611,141268463,2017-09-12 12:10:04,">>141229611 Love these threads. Reading them is like Hitler arguing with pinochet about the method of extermination and who's political system will be instilled after the problem is solved",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505218204 141229611,141268790,2017-09-12 12:13:23,Can one of you sum up the Bundy standoff from a libertarian point of view for me?,,Anonymous,oh.jpg,GOgSBOuizfTaNH50IcDWBg==,,,1505218403 141229611,141269022,2017-09-12 12:16:03,">>141267475 >have you ever spoken with an neoliberal equality and antidiscrimination are essential points for them what the neoliberal paradigm mostly revolves around is the economy. I'd put my stress on those similarities. >If by nature a certain way of life prevailed it is not an ideology, because at the time people started to define property there where no such things as ideologies around personal property != private property. Moreover, I reckon they were also of the view that you can expropriate property would a cogent social need for that to emerge. >are you by any chance a fanboy of the identitarian movement, because you sound like one. i'm not even sure what that movement comprehends, but i'm sure that >>141256414",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505218563 141229611,141269260,2017-09-12 12:18:37,">>141229744 why is liberianism politically so fucking shit, i mean for the 2016 election you had that faggot gary ""dude weed lmao"" johnson throwing away the the perfect election the libertarians could have asked for",,Anonymous,,,,,1505218717 141229611,141269533,2017-09-12 12:21:25,">>141269022 I still don't get why you bring up neoliberalism in a thread where nobody is a neoliberal and than fight against it and for your defense question, read the basics posted in the OP or just learn something about european history.",,Anonymous,how to talk to commies.jpg,nBrUXktlAihX0D0tH62mUw==,,,1505218885 141229611,141270172,2017-09-12 12:29:11,">>141269533 yes, i get it: you buy defence. you just refuse to see how a private company could actually face antisocial incentives in your society. You corporate bootlickers are beyond repair, I guess. Have fun reading your Mises lol",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505219351 141229611,141270225,2017-09-12 12:29:53,">>141270172 *defense",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505219393 141229611,141270303,2017-09-12 12:30:49,">>141266593 Pretty based. >>141268790 What exactly happened? Gimmie a rundown and I'll try and sort it out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505219449 141229611,141270373,2017-09-12 12:31:41,">>141229611 A libertarian cannot murder people legally no matter the reason. An AnCap has the right to murder anyone who threatens them. A NatSoc has the duty to hang the Marxists.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505219501 141229611,141270524,2017-09-12 12:33:23,">>141270303 All I know is that the gov wanted to seize the land of an farmer and friends other farmers and militias showed up in arms and waving gadsden flags to prevent the gov from doing so and they exchanged some shots",,Anonymous,,,,,1505219603 141229611,141270887,2017-09-12 12:37:27,">>141270172 What would you do if Zuckerberg builds up an army of african childsoldiers with all his money and he overruns finland. Or maybe he unites with google virgin and microsoft to expand their military budget. God I can't wait for the Red Bull death squads to round up degenerates like you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505219847 141229611,141270930,2017-09-12 12:37:57,">>141270524 If that's accurate, it seems pretty clear the government should have fucked off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505219877 141229611,141271133,2017-09-12 12:40:19,can anyone 101 me on libertarian right. i thought libertarian was the freedom to anything socially and liberally. doesn't forcing socially conservative views on people go against libertarianism??,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505220019 141229611,141271146,2017-09-12 12:40:28,">>141270930 Yes but I wanted to know if it was succsessfull, or what happened in the aftermath, if the militias actually prevented it from happening, there could still be hope for merica.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505220028 141229611,141271336,2017-09-12 12:42:35,">>141271133 >doesn't forcing socially conservative views on people go against libertarianism?? what can they do against it, throwing flowers at you while begging the governemt to save them?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505220155 141229611,141271347,2017-09-12 12:42:43,">>141270887 there are state armies to prevent that from happening. also, using less buzzwords can make you look more intelligent:)",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505220163 141229611,141271497,2017-09-12 12:44:12,">>141271347 >there are state armies to prevent that from happening sure, there are corporations out there who have a budget to easily overrun many shitholes in this world, despite them having a state army.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505220252 141229611,141271515,2017-09-12 12:44:30,">>141271133 >doesn't forcing socially conservative views on people go against libertarianism?? You can do it in a market way, just conquering the media",,Anonymous,rrr.png,83AQ0/8REGFhhTZUUgtD3w==,,,1505220270 141229611,141271701,2017-09-12 12:46:45,"If racism is collectivism, does that make it bad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505220405 141229611,141271750,2017-09-12 12:47:30,">>141271701 No. Racism is human nature.",,Anonymous,984555.jpg,FgGffwGl2yTkdRsJqKeHVg==,AT,,1505220450 141229611,141271775,2017-09-12 12:47:53,">>141271497 there are shit like the UN, bro. They do have all sorts of violations going on in developing countries rn, but nothing that glaring. You really can't get away with it as easily as you seem to think. don't get fooled into thinking that they refrain from it out of the goodness of their hearts",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505220473 141229611,141272031,2017-09-12 12:50:55,">>141271775 The (((UN))) did a pretty good job so far.",,Anonymous,crush the un.jpg,UzndHdvk02vkuVB1O633jA==,,,1505220655 141229611,141272471,2017-09-12 12:55:44,">>141271701 Muh collectivism isn't an actual argument. No Libertarian would force you out of a voluntary collective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505220944 141229611,141272560,2017-09-12 12:56:57,">>141271146 Shit sorry I dunno, but there is hope for America. If backed into a corner even the most docile gun owners will shoot back.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505221017 141229611,141272690,2017-09-12 12:58:18,">>141272560 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byCLYR8Q8Kc found the video which made me aware that this even happened, thought maybe it was a big thing in the libertarian community",,Anonymous,,,,,1505221098 141229611,141272879,2017-09-12 13:00:29,">>141272031 Not a fan of the UN me, I'm troubled by it. But in actual fact, that's one check on most glaring overkills. Would they get nutty, Western companies without a doubt would be in a deep tub of piss on all levels of governance",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505221229 141229611,141273205,2017-09-12 13:04:00,">>141272879 so you oppose corporations taking over other peoples lands, but you have no problem if states do it the same principles aplies to an ancap society, it is just the way of nature if you are not strong enough to defend yourself you get enslaved. and for your point with state armies protecting you, good point when third world subhumans invade your country while the army jsut watches them passing the border, but maybe, just maybe it would be a good think if you would discuss this with a libertarian and not with me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505221440 141229611,141273337,2017-09-12 13:05:19,>>141246853,,Anonymous,ugh.png,k8kRJDub+m5X1gtsqjo2YA==,SE,,1505221519 141229611,141273476,2017-09-12 13:06:56,">>141271133 >doesn't forcing socially conservative views on people go against libertarianism?? The right to enforce conservative norms non-violently is an extension of freedom of speech",,Anonymous,,,,,1505221616 141229611,141273627,2017-09-12 13:08:32,">>141273476 How do you enforce something non-violently?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505221712 141229611,141273745,2017-09-12 13:09:53,">>141273627 conservative societies will thrive will communist communes will starve, just natural selection. and if they start to rob you just kill them all.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505221793 141229611,141274035,2017-09-12 13:13:11,">>141229611 But money is not part of the ""natural order,"" don't all those ideologies require money to function?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505221991 141229611,141274042,2017-09-12 13:13:16,">>141273205 >you have no problem if states do it I don't recall saying that. >it is just the way of nature if you are not strong enough to defend yourself you get enslaved. yet you just a while ago were whinging how ancapism is based on divine natural laws. so is it ""might is right"" or are property rights just meaningless ideological drivel, like I suggested. >and for your point with state armies protecting you, good point when third world subhumans invade your country while the army jsut watches them passing the border They would do whatever would profit them the most. Corporations would presumably gain from pushing down of labor prices with immigrants.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505221996 141229611,141274217,2017-09-12 13:15:03,">>141273745 So you depend on other communes to fail just so you do not have to force ideals on people?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505222103 141229611,141274272,2017-09-12 13:15:39,">>141273627 Through either culture or economic incentive, or a mix of those two. If you try to base a society around money though it's going to inevitably lead to violence and bring out the worst in people",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505222139 141229611,141274450,2017-09-12 13:17:46,">>141274217 You can force any ideals you want in your property, and if they want ""freedom of speech"" you can kick them the fuck out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505222266 141229611,141274538,2017-09-12 13:18:38,">>141229611 Can I shoot communists?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505222318 141229611,141274555,2017-09-12 13:18:53,">>141274272 >>141274450 ok",,Anonymous,,,,,1505222333 141229611,141274558,2017-09-12 13:18:54,">>141274217 they can rot if they want, why should we care about them, also I would just take actions against them when they start to thread our society with their communist bullshit I don't care for a nap, but I am not a libertarian. >>141274450 also this",,Anonymous,,,,,1505222334 141229611,141274805,2017-09-12 13:21:54,">>141274558 >>141274450 >>141274272 ok...",,Anonymous,,,,,1505222514 141229611,141275118,2017-09-12 13:25:34,">>141255147 Wut? I am currently reading fountain head. There was a mention of a god damn private orge early on in the story from Peter's architectural firm. All of her books also revolve heavily around unrestrained capitalism. This has to be a misquote.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505222734 141229611,141275294,2017-09-12 13:28:01,">>141275118 its out of context or a misquote.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505222881 141229611,141275576,2017-09-12 13:31:22,">>141274538 Communists threaten seizure of property by advocating for communism. So yes, to be a communist is coercion. So shoot them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505223082 141229611,141275833,2017-09-12 13:34:20,IS Chris Cantwell actually the first libertarian political prisoner in america?,,Anonymous,chrissexmachinecantwell.jpg,kAjUfH7ClO30tD18SD8Iyg==,,,1505223260 141229611,141276197,2017-09-12 13:38:26,">>141266593 liberty",,Anonymous,,,,,1505223506 141229611,141276821,2017-09-12 13:45:17,>>141229744,,Anonymous,Libertarians.jpg,o8sybw/XnJWQ+ydE/r7mLw==,,,1505223917 141229611,141277048,2017-09-12 13:47:56,">>141229611 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPa1wikTd5c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r6GBo_7UNc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505224076 141229611,141277054,2017-09-12 13:48:00,">>141230309 >posting communist propaganda Get off your flag, pinko.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505224080 141229611,141277159,2017-09-12 13:49:19,">>141232587 If taxation was beneficial, it wouldn't have to be enforced at gunpoint.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505224159 141229611,141277480,2017-09-12 13:53:13,">>141275833 Usually they kill Libertarian prisoners for their crimes. There's been a handful before him",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505224393 141229611,141277575,2017-09-12 13:54:14,">>141250633 >corporate bootlicker Modern ""corporations"" are just the commercial branch of the state. Give it a generation or so, and they will fuse into a large monopoly and become indistinguishable from the state itself, and they will do each other's bidding. You better be ready for when that happens.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505224454 141229611,141277918,2017-09-12 13:57:59,">>141270373 Pretty sure there is enough Marxists for all of us. Don't hoard them, you greedy fuck.",,Anonymous,lrg and nsg.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,SK,,1505224679 141229611,141278000,2017-09-12 13:58:53,">>141277159 I'm not sure how making the free market the sole arbitor of our fates is going to lessen corporate power. Would you like to create a power vacuum where the corporations can wholly step in? also >>141277159 ever heard of the free rider problem?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505224733 141229611,141278010,2017-09-12 13:58:59,">>141229611 libertarianism is a mental ilness stay insane my brotha",,Anonymous,,,,,1505224739 141229611,141278358,2017-09-12 14:02:48,">>141271133 Ultimately, we support the natural order of things. A stateless hierarchy centered around multiple parts of life - family, community, religion, military, workplace, leisure, you name it. We seek to continue the existence of evolution, which has been set back by the government, by letting bad choices (being a stoner, a single mom) lower a person's social status and evil actions (murder, treason) to get people killed. Only this way can mankind progress into the future, and we are at a tipping point of that. The third-positionists and the ordinary right-wingers have gotten a few things wrong, and we're here to make them right. Hail Victory.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1505224968 141229611,141278534,2017-09-12 14:04:52,">>141275833 Nah, Kokesh has done a few stupid things that wouldn't be a problem in AnCapistan.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505225092 141229611,141278670,2017-09-12 14:06:17,">>141278000 Don't extend your services to people who don't pay. If nobody wants to pay, seek to provide a different service or move elsewhere and expand from there.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505225177 141229611,141278808,2017-09-12 14:07:36,">>141277480 good to know",,Anonymous,,,,,1505225256 141229611,141278948,2017-09-12 14:09:07,">>141278358 >We seek to continue the existence of evolution, which has been set back by the government, by letting bad choices (being a stoner, a single mom) lower a person's social status and evil actions (murder, treason) to get people killed. God bless you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505225347 141229611,141279267,2017-09-12 14:12:24,who makes the helicopters,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505225544 141229611,141279463,2017-09-12 14:14:11,">>141278670 It's not about services; unrestrained corporations don't need to give a shit about your preferences. They don't care whether you enjoy your product and are happy to pay, since they can easily overpower you with their resources. No permission needed. For them, the incentives are lucrative for establishing a corporate rule.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505225651 141229611,141279936,2017-09-12 14:19:03,">>141279463 >unrestrained corporations don't need to give a shit about your preferences How do they intend to stay in business if they don't cater to consumer preferences? >they can easily overpower you with their resources hello suomi, gib englizh :-DD D",,Anonymous,hahaha.jpg,WKsoGSR72s6ooe8ZtW2sAQ==,,,1505225943 141229611,141280235,2017-09-12 14:21:59,">>141279463 Corporations are a result of state licensing (especially media. pure coincidence) and as such do not have a legitimate claim to all of their capital. Their resources can't overpower you. Men with guns can, and they don't control those yet. Furthermore, they are detached from the land they seek to control (((again, guess why))), so they'd be cut to pieces by any organised regional resistance. Put simply, they do not pose a threat without the state backing them up, and the state itself largely relies on public opinion to begin with. Read Siege by James Mason. It opened my eyes to a lot of things, and I've only read a few articles as of yet.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505226119 141229611,141280825,2017-09-12 14:28:27,">>141279936 There is nothing wrong with that sentence, you colossal idiot. Fucking yanks. >How do they intend to stay in business if they don't cater to consumer preferences? How about they just take your stuff? The defense companies you use have lots to gain from establishing an aristocracy Can't you see anything wrong with your paradigm here? >>141280235 >Corporations are a result of state licensing (especially media. pure coincidence) and as such do not have a legitimate claim to all of their capital. I guess I should subscribe to Austrian economics to really be on board with this view wholehearedly. >Their resources can't overpower you. Men with guns can, and they don't control those yet. Furthermore, they are detached from the land they seek to control (((again, guess why))), so they'd be cut to pieces by any organised regional resistance. No conscription, so it requires some exceptional civic virtua, which, I'm afraid, you wouldn't have outside of 4chan. In addition, why would majority of people fight when unrestricted capitalism is commonly understood fucking large swaths of people in the arse? Besides, even if you believe ordinary corporations can't do it, surely you can see the treath coming from defense companies' direction?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505226507 141229611,141281097,2017-09-12 14:31:12,">>141280825 What if your states rules over you and take your stuff? Gun control and conscription, so he has an army and you don't even have a bb gun.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505226672 141229611,141281282,2017-09-12 14:33:12,">>141280235 As though ""power"" only means ""state action."" What about the use of propaganda, mass conditioning, and brainwashing techniques? I suspect Edward Bernays knew all too well that Hollywood and Madison Avenue would do a far better job at keeping people ""in line"" than jackbooted thugs. Huxley knew this too. I am particularly interested in the libertarian view of advertisers and film producers using their understanding of mass psychology/mass conditioning/mass brainwashing to influence our decision-making. Is it consistent with libertarian philosophy?",,Anonymous,bernays.jpg,nHsecezaxx6YnJ9uSnoJzQ==,US,,1505226792 141229611,141281371,2017-09-12 14:34:13,">>141281097 >>141280825 Or the state decides it is rightful to jsut take 50% of your income and another 20% on every transaction you take, how will you defend yourself agaisnt such a threat? Or what when the state decides to open the borders and lets your property defenseless against hordes of subhumans?",,Anonymous,GuP139.png,p6zUaeMXayJisqs0HyhSOw==,,,1505226853 141229611,141282042,2017-09-12 14:41:12,">>141281097 That has happened in the past, yes, but I reckon that here in the West, it's a semi low chance of that happening in the near future. The ideology is strong enough there. >>141281371 Again, the people tasked with providing private protection can organize themselves and take that out of my money, too. Again, the people tasked with providing private protection can organize themselves and take in whoever they like, too. Business interest are a really strong driver in immigration. The reason I prefer a state over a corporate aristocracy is that there's enough myths behind state to prevent it from being used SOLELY for private interests. Nation states have provided social cohesion, reproductive changes, social mobility, and political power for the people better than most systems of government.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505227272 141229611,141282242,2017-09-12 14:43:17,">>141282042 >but I reckon that here in the West, it's a semi low chance of that happening in the near future. This is what's currently happening in Europe. I am already on a 41%income tax and 20% sales tax. still socialists demanding more.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505227397 141229611,141282248,2017-09-12 14:43:21,">>141280825 Defense companies have to compete with each other, thus they cannot allow themselves to become tyrannical.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505227401 141229611,141282493,2017-09-12 14:45:38,">>141282248 >Defense companies have to compete with each other tfw",,Anonymous,defense companies competing.jpg,ZkADWBvat8w2gPfi1zKPzg==,US,,1505227538 141229611,141282693,2017-09-12 14:47:48,">>141281282 Anybody can become a skilled propagandist. The free market of ideas (outside of obvious performative contradictions, which is pretty much everything outside of AnCap, of course) does not allow a single brainwashing power to gain hold over the public opinion. Furthermore, since nowadays the core of libertarianism is heavily centered around blood and soil (check out Jeff Deist's speech, or anything by Hoppe), people will more heavily flock to the countryside (already an observable trend), where they are not only more immune to government intervention, but also nearly completely immune to ideological subversion. Are you from /SIG/? Those guys seem to really like Bernays, his ""Propaganda"" was the book of the week in their book club when I joined.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505227668 141229611,141282754,2017-09-12 14:48:22,">>141282042 >The reason I prefer a state over a corporate aristocracy is that there's enough myths behind state to prevent it from being used SOLELY for private interests This is what made Our civilization prosper the french revolution was the start of the death of europe. Remember L'etat c'est moi! and by god how right he was, because it was his own land until the revolution took his head and threw europe in the abyss.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505227702 141229611,141282873,2017-09-12 14:49:40,">>141282493 Warfare in areas crawling with heavily armed people whose affiliation is uncertain is a very high-risk, low-reward deal and most defense providers would rather compete in the field of prices, as any company crazy enough to breach the NAP would be immediately seen not only as a threat to the citizens, but also to the other providers.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505227780 141229611,141282963,2017-09-12 14:50:34,">>141282873 >any company crazy enough to breach the NAP would be immediately seen not only as a threat to the citizens you're so naive",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505227834 141229611,141283082,2017-09-12 14:51:59,">>141282963 No nigger, that's how it works. See what happened to the Third Reich? Imagine if instead of the Third Reich, Poland was seen as the aggressor. If you're uninterested in the truth, I'm sure Rebbit is just that way.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505227919 141229611,141283243,2017-09-12 14:53:48,">>141283082 >50 million dead in WW2 are you really using this as an example?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505228028 141229611,141283644,2017-09-12 14:58:03,">>141282248 Let's say there's ten companies providing defense for a given territory. Two of them invite them all to a meeting and say, ""Hey, what about we seize the power to ourselves?"" Now, let's say seven of them agree on that (it's obviously more high-yielding to rule over people than run a honest business, right?), three companies don't want to do that for whatever reason. If they choose to go against the grain and keep on competing on the markets, they have seven companies coming up with all sorts of skullduggery against them; just name it: blackmail, vandalism, price-fixing to drive them out of the market, pressuring other companies to not do business with them, etc. It's better to go along than try to be righteous - thus making most of your competitors to team up against you. >>141282873 >any company crazy enough to breach the NAP would be immediately seen not only as a threat to the citizens, but also to the other providers. this demands a populace willing to refrain from pursuing their self-interest to ensure the public good. wouldn't count on that. it's terribly wobbly base for a society",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505228283 141229611,141283710,2017-09-12 14:58:41,This thread description looks oddly similar to an LGBT thread description,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505228321 141229611,141283898,2017-09-12 15:00:50,">>141283710 >Knowing what an LGBT thread looks like.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505228450 141229611,141284037,2017-09-12 15:02:09,">>141283710 anon is there something you want to tell us?",,Anonymous,14633338943360.png,h7kLdbTMAopsjFrmBPLUSw==,US,,1505228529 141229611,141284052,2017-09-12 15:02:16,">>141282754 I think those are some broad assumptions, maybe too tangential for me to take on in this thread.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505228536 141229611,141284266,2017-09-12 15:04:35,"PURGE COMMIES PRINT MONEY Daily reminder: Proponents of affirmative action are oppressors of the black race. Never trust someone trying to give you something for free. PURGE COMMIES PRODUCE GUNS",,3d PRINT EVERYTHING,,,,,1505228675 141229611,141284269,2017-09-12 15:04:37,">>141284052 You assume we are on the peak of our existence today, as I said before, read into our history and you will see that we are at the lowest level.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505228677 141229611,141284551,2017-09-12 15:07:33,">>141255147 >>Rand >Hated libertarians. OK , ok , its ok to nig a little. But never go full nigger.",,3d PRINT EVERYTHING - Piracy is GOD - Copyright is Is Oppression,,,,,1505228853 141229611,141284993,2017-09-12 15:12:09,">>141284269 Depends what we're measuring, but in general, I don't certainly think we're hitting the rafters of our potential right now. But I think going all the way back to pre-revolution times is a bit too much. I highly doubt you had a lot to be gay about outside of the parlors.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505229129 141229611,141285019,2017-09-12 15:12:30,">>141284266 Affirmative action doesn't hurt nogs. It hurts whitey.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505229150 141229611,141285081,2017-09-12 15:13:06,">>141284551 You sounds like a total fag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505229186 141229611,141285369,2017-09-12 15:16:04,">>141285019 Hurts both. Nogs have less of an incentive to study and gain social capital required for these jobs. Huwhites have less of an incentive to pursue a career in these fields, as it would mean having to abandon their mindset coming from their low time preference. Also ruins inter-racial relations and build social tension, which is further exploited by the government and further pushes the time preference rates in society upwards, and so on.",,Anonymous,ancap andy.jpg,nJJiImciDuRCuXn4r+lycw==,SK,,1505229364 141229611,141285534,2017-09-12 15:17:50,">>141283243 That means that territorial protectors really don't like living around potential, let alone actual aggressors, because the implications of war (when they don't have a population of their own to distribute the risks across, no less) are too scary for them to handle, so they strike as fast as possible.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505229470 141229611,141285556,2017-09-12 15:18:04,">>141282693 Not familiar with /SIG/, just exploring how ""non-coercive"" forms of power can be just as effective as the jackboot. I'm also interested in the direction of the libertarian movement, which is now seeming to make common cause with the traditional enemies of freedom. I don't know what the hell happened to the movement since the Ron Paul/Tea Parties revolution of '08, but it has taken a dark turn of late. I've always viewed libertarianism as a particular strain of Anglo-American thought, and I laugh as a Burger when I think of ""blood and soil"" in the US. It is a total joke given our demographics, our complete lack of a unified national identity, and the fact that our ""soil"" is Europe. Watching people LARP as Nazis in Charlottesville was painful and cringe-inducing, though I do understand at an intellectual level why people like Cantwell have gone full Commie Remover.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505229484 141229611,141285704,2017-09-12 15:19:36,">>141283644 Lad, it is in the self-interest of the general populace not to be ruled by a territorial monopolist who's known to secure their position by aggressive force. In a highly armed society, seizing power is more difficult than you may think, and many local defense providers will have strong ties to their protectees.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505229576 141229611,141285890,2017-09-12 15:21:22,">>141280825 If a defense company goes rogue and turns into a marauding gang, then it'd destroy its reputation, lose its customers, and end up as the target of other defense companies, which stand to profit from the first company's turning.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505229682 141229611,141285913,2017-09-12 15:21:36,">>141285556 Fascism is a faulty interpretation of natural law, but that already makes it infinitely better than communism, and much better than the neolib/neocon kosher sandwich. Nowadays, the movement is split into two parts: the reactionaries under Hoppe and the Mises Institute, and the shitlibs under Jeffrey Tucker, the Libertarian Party, and the CATO Institute.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505229696 141229611,141286126,2017-09-12 15:23:57,Are anarcho-individualists welcome here?,,Anonymous,,,,,1505229837 141229611,141286141,2017-09-12 15:24:10,">>141285890 you're literally just describing modern geopolitics, except you're labeling states as ""defense companies""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505229850 141229611,141286142,2017-09-12 15:24:12,"Also, it's funny how the worst case example our critics provide for us is the creation of a state. We know, your life is a performative contradiction and you hate yourselves. You call us immoral, modernist materialists, yet you discard ethics based on principles hundreds of years old and use utilitarian non-arguments against our case. When that fails, you use fallacies.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505229852 141229611,141286222,2017-09-12 15:25:09,">>141286126 Long as you're not an anti property fag I guess, what exactly does that mean?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505229909 141229611,141286522,2017-09-12 15:28:36,">>141286222 Basically, almost Ancap.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505230116 141229611,141286524,2017-09-12 15:28:37,">>141286126 To some extent, yes. The term's a bit more vague than ancap and ancom are, so it depends on how you identify yourself. >>141286141 Except that defense companies that seek profit are better off not coercing their customers into contracts. If all these companies were as coercive as the state, then the situation would be reversed: consider how much ISIS has gained from its modus operandi and how much Europeans have suffered from the imposition of Syrian rapefugees.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505230117 141229611,141286675,2017-09-12 15:30:26,">>141286522 Whats the difference?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505230226 141229611,141286714,2017-09-12 15:30:48,">>141285913 Where would you place Nick Land, Mencius Moldbug, and the neoreactionaries in that grouping? Or would you consider them, as I do, a separate faction? I have even heard them identify themselves as ""post-libertarian."" Cucker, Reason, and CATO seem to be way behind the times or blinded by their Beltwaytarianism (or in Cucker's case his creeping leftism.) They didn't ""get"" Trump, they don't ""get"" white identity politics, they don't ""get"" why people are afraid of mass immigration. It seems Hoppe was more prescient about these things. I am finding my own libertarianism to be a bit muddled now as a result of all the splits occuring within the movement and the rising Neoreactionary movement.",,Anonymous,mm.jpg,fy6osHqdp3mPV8H6C7G4Yg==,US,,1505230248 141229611,141286792,2017-09-12 15:31:44,">>141286675 Your personal interest in something.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505230304 141229611,141287125,2017-09-12 15:35:12,">>141285704 >it is in the self-interest of the general populace not to be ruled by a territorial monopolist who's known to secure their position by aggressive force. It would be reasonable to put the coup it into practice at once. In that same line of reasoning, groups like workers would most likely gladly welcome the new rule if it would bring some work-related perks with it, for example. >many local defense providers will have strong ties to their protectees. depends really on the city size; would that really be the case for Dallas, for one? >In a highly armed society, seizing power is more difficult than you may think it's possible, though, and that should be a major consern >>141285890 i hope the above comments of mine illustrate my thoughts regarding your post",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505230512 141229611,141287290,2017-09-12 15:37:03,">>141286792 Nvm, anarcho individualists are cunts. Piss off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505230623 141229611,141287547,2017-09-12 15:39:41,">>141287290 why y u do that",,Anonymous,,,,,1505230781 141229611,141287618,2017-09-12 15:40:18,">>141286714 They're a separate group, though heavily influenced by Hoppe. I hope to read some of their stuff someday.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505230818 141229611,141287777,2017-09-12 15:42:07,">>141287125 Workers are also negatively affected by socialism, as they are denied the division of labour that the natural order brings them. Different parts of cities have local cultures that defense providers will center themselves around to better keep their position.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505230927 141341113,141341113,2017-09-13 01:09:26,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA [Embed] [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed] [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Libertarian Frogs.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1505264966 141341113,141341183,2017-09-13 01:10:13,,,Anonymous,Communist Filth.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1505265013 141341113,141341218,2017-09-13 01:10:31,,,Anonymous,The Communist Threat.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1505265031 141341113,141341256,2017-09-13 01:11:08,,,Anonymous,What's your problem.png,jHBTV9Khr6Tkw77yLF+CHw==,US,,1505265068 141341113,141341319,2017-09-13 01:11:51,,,Anonymous,REAL Libertarianism.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1505265111 141341113,141341417,2017-09-13 01:13:08,,,Anonymous,What we really are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1505265188 141341113,141341454,2017-09-13 01:13:39,,,Anonymous,What is it.png,88R2i0cnyIVSx7T41M5IAg==,US,,1505265219 141341113,141341498,2017-09-13 01:14:10,,,Anonymous,Open Borders.png,vg9kKDFzZtzubZYzrE7MQA==,US,,1505265250 141341113,141341530,2017-09-13 01:14:31,,,Anonymous,Open Borders 2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1505265271 141341113,141341567,2017-09-13 01:15:00,,,Anonymous,Equality.jpg,RGetp9fMgQK1sDndguegtg==,US,,1505265300 141341113,141341591,2017-09-13 01:15:21,,,Anonymous,Socialist Quote.jpg,JAxwYC7ARKlyd1s4OfFYCw==,US,,1505265321 141341113,141341616,2017-09-13 01:15:45,,,Anonymous,Democracy Quote.jpg,J0O9phpNEONchjuRLQIS7w==,US,,1505265345 141341113,141341649,2017-09-13 01:16:05,,,Anonymous,Democracy.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,US,,1505265365 141341113,141341669,2017-09-13 01:16:24,,,Anonymous,Rothbard Quote.jpg,R/HF0mR8BcBvFjUdhsRN1A==,US,,1505265384 141341113,141341749,2017-09-13 01:17:26,,,Anonymous,Reminder.jpg,cpfo4W+OnXz9KeMkg3rEWQ==,US,,1505265446 141341113,141341874,2017-09-13 01:18:52,,,Anonymous,Libertarian Reading List.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,US,,1505265532 141341113,141341973,2017-09-13 01:20:07,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy is Authoritarian.png,m+vq+HJQ/+rO+jmc2VaEkA==,US,,1505265607 141341113,141342054,2017-09-13 01:21:16,,,Anonymous,nu v tru pol.png,elZ2/QXq1o51Xq0eeB1rAg==,US,,1505265676 141341113,141344417,2017-09-13 01:53:38,"This is relevant and should be discussed further. >>141341113",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1505267618 141341113,141344533,2017-09-13 01:55:29,"I just made this one and came looking for the /lrg/ thread to share my creation. I made it primarily to use as a reply to somebody that says ""taxes are the price we pay for society"" or some bullshit like that. Hope y'all enjoy.",,Anonymous,ticket.png,IpAOZsk5ucyz6OGHMbUl1w==,,,1505267729 141341113,141344658,2017-09-13 01:57:12,">>141344533 I'll add it to my collection",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505267832 141341113,141344702,2017-09-13 01:57:56,"Daily reminder. We have the answers, consistency & the philosophical basis these statists don't.",,Anonymous,NAP-PropertyRights -Self-ownership-Freedom- Illustrated.jpg,f8AeH21oDwxwjDK9a+X2Sg==,AU,,1505267876 141341113,141345046,2017-09-13 02:02:47,Can anyone recommend me a company that can print this into an actual flag for me to buy?,,Anonymous,fascist snek.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1505268167 141341113,141345768,2017-09-13 02:14:07,">>141344702 These is a need for more state authority. Taxes are a necessary measure to afford the community access to education, health and defense they might not otherwise have. People are not a means to an end. Your ideal isn't legitimate and will never be realized or practically applied in a real world scenario.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505268847 141341113,141345885,2017-09-13 02:15:54,">>141344702 Daily reminder that leftist subversives are not welcome here. Anarchy is akin the African niggerdom, and we should not regress back to such a state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505268954 141341113,141345964,2017-09-13 02:17:11,">>141345768 > Taxes are a necessary measure to afford the community access to education, health and defense they might not otherwise have Bullshit. A society growing in wealth is necessary to go from subsistence farmers to an educated populace that can afford education, taxes aren't necessary imo its bullshit propaganda from slave masters to make people believe they need masters. Health, education & defense are good things, they are not a human right, though freedom provides them and gave us access to them (ever increasing), it is not a given that one will not have access to these things unless they had ""money""and that with a government people ""can get them for free"". Doesn't work that way.",,Anonymous,1502763253409.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,AU,,1505269031 141341113,141346096,2017-09-13 02:19:20,">>141345768 No. As little as possible. I'm a Constitutionalist, I believe that strict adherence to the Constitution is conducive to liberty. The government does have the power to levy taxes, but historically we've been fine without taxes. We survived for centuries without the income tax, after the 16th Amendment it all went to shit. Unsurprisingly that's when the Federal Reserve took effect. The less taxes, the better",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505269160 141341113,141346358,2017-09-13 02:23:31,">>141345885 Freedom is progress friend.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505269411 141341113,141346449,2017-09-13 02:24:58,">>141346358 Depends on what you mean by progress.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505269498 141341113,141346544,2017-09-13 02:26:44,">>141346358 Whatever ""freedom"" means If you were alone on the planet, your freedom level would be at 100%. You'd also be miserable, and probably get eaten by wild animals. Forced by nature into a slavish menial existence of subsistence",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505269604 141341113,141346825,2017-09-13 02:30:50,">>141345768 >Taxes are an unnecessary theft forcing individuals to perpetuate miseducation, a medical industry cartel, and the bombing of third world countries. you had a typo there",,Anonymous,168894.png,W/+aJP5p44eOsOZchsLH5w==,,,1505269850 141341113,141347490,2017-09-13 02:42:08,">>141346544 Hence the division of labour & trade allowed us to overcome this world of scarcity in cooperation while respecting eachother. >>141346449 I think a general sense of the world, an evolution of man in a good way in a direction we ought to be going or hoped that we would be going. A direction of relative peace & evolving as a species past trivial bullshit to what degree we can. (All subjectively of course)",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505270528 141341113,141347727,2017-09-13 02:45:35,">even less popular than /nsg/ Fuck off already lolbergs.",,Anonymous,libertarian society.png,XRvmnFFVc/X0e+5nHUoWVA==,,,1505270735 141341113,141347777,2017-09-13 02:46:10,">>141347727 If you're still a lolberg after reading this kys.",,Anonymous,the problem with libertarians.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,,,1505270770 141341113,141347823,2017-09-13 02:46:53,">>141347777 Checked.",,Anonymous,1485253301575.jpg,66uE0gNjcwvUAEtHDiALCg==,,,1505270813 141341113,141348079,2017-09-13 02:50:37,">>141347490 my point is that a government actually provides humans with greater freedom For example, the mods on 4chan give everyone the breathing room they want to speak their mind. Otherwise we'd be /b/, and you don't want to be /b/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505271037 141341113,141348102,2017-09-13 02:50:54,">>141347727 We're everywhere cunt.",,Anonymous,ekins_fig1.jpg,EAIeHS8BxxKlarC9+7HmAA==,AU,,1505271054 141341113,141348258,2017-09-13 02:53:11,Is /pol/ getting more retarded every day?,,Anonymous,,,,,1505271191 141341113,141348276,2017-09-13 02:53:26,">>141347823 > checking your own quads Lonely lonely man. >>141348079 That's an oxymoron, you can't provide provide by necessitating its violation. Order, peace, dispute resolution, rules etc yes all very important but lets not pretend that taking the product of peoples labour and dribbling it back to them while lining the pockets of the elites is ""giving us freedom"". We can commandere or create our own environment from which to be free in without necessitating a very specific structure of force/coercion to fulfill certain roles while justifying immorality, its just not necessary anymore the states way of keeping peace is obsolete.",,Anonymous,1504829047493.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,AU,,1505271206 141341113,141348349,2017-09-13 02:54:39,">>141348258 You're becoming an oldfag, you are dealing with a flood of actual children from a generation you don't belong to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505271279 141341113,141348509,2017-09-13 02:57:31,">>141348276 no it's not an oxymoron. For example, the reason we can have this conversation right now is because of rules against spamming. The reason you can get to work every day is because of the lines on the road. Government technically limits the freedom of what you can do, but in doing so it provides everyone with greater freedom. For example, every cell in your body gives up the freedom to reproduce, and in return they get to be part of a larger organism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505271451 141341113,141348707,2017-09-13 03:00:40,">>141348509 I don't think you've proved your point though. The necessity of rules just means we need rules & an environment conducive to civilization, not necessarily a coercive violent monopoly over a given geographical area, the underlying service yes, the way its provided no. Lines on the road & mods on 4chan aren't the state, they are voluntary you can go to places less controlled than here or more controlled, the state isn't voluntary. So all I'm seeing is that voluntary associations & a needs for rules somehow equals we need an involuntary state to limit our freedom for some reason.... cells & organisms, yes people give up sleeping all day and go to work, they then trade money for things they need and cooperate in a society, cooperation & having to do stuff still doesn't mean we need to sacrifice our rights to the altar of the state & collectivism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505271640 141341113,141348966,2017-09-13 03:04:39,">>141348707 rules are not voluntary, that's why they're called rules. If you object to the policies where you live, you're free to travel somewhere else. By staying, you're giving your consent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505271879 141341113,141349324,2017-09-13 03:10:19,>>141341113,,Anonymous,tyranny_vs_anarchy.png,vC+cBraFAxse0Ui8usJCeQ==,,,1505272219 141341113,141349645,2017-09-13 03:15:56,">>141345046 why would you associate with fascist imagery? Centralized state and ancap is an oxy moron",,Anonymous,,,,,1505272556 141341113,141349664,2017-09-13 03:16:15,">>141348966 Not this bullshit again, social contract theory & implicit consent of the ruled have been debunked so many times. Rules are voluntary and come from real authority, i go to someomes house its their rules, I play a sport I agree to the rules. The state has no legitimate authority to demand consent to rule or contract that isnt explicit its a non entity and thats why libertarians exist spreading this message. Im not leaving and me staying in a house does not give consent just as a slave eating food given by a slave master does not consent to slavery dont even fucking start that 12 year old thin as fuck bullshit with me mate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505272575 141341113,141349806,2017-09-13 03:18:46,">>141349664 but in a libertarian world, all property is privately owned. So you can only go to where you're invited. You might not like the options. Just as if you're leaving the US, your option are: living in gook-land, living in some 3rd world hellhole, living in gun-free Europe....etc. It's a very similar state of affairs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505272726 141341113,141350081,2017-09-13 03:23:21,">>141349806 Options would be abundant. That's the beautiful thing about living near like minded people and the beautiful thing about businesses, they create common areas because they want people to come there. Landlock is a problem until seasteading takes off which is fine I still trist a society of private property rights of state control of property & land, I trust the state the least with land access. They tax us for breathing, tax us move, charge us for the privellage of driving on roads we pay for, charge for every movement. I go to the shops and its a little pocket of freedom, same when I go fishing. Fuck the state and its choking presence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505273001 141341113,141350189,2017-09-13 03:25:19,">>141350081 >Options would be abundant They are abundant right now, there are over 200 countries on the earth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505273119 141341113,141350910,2017-09-13 03:37:04,">>141341113 How does /pol/ feel about SJWs ruining video games? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6sT7BnOBMM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505273824 141341113,141351003,2017-09-13 03:38:52,"Why are you faggots so fucking useless? Lazy as fuck libertarians are the reason there is no libertarian movement anymore.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505273932 141341113,141351060,2017-09-13 03:39:55,"quick reminder that many libertarians don't support conservative values if they violate individual rights (such as treating a woman worse than a man; forcing people to have children when they can't afford it/don't want it yet, because they ""have to""; etc)",,Anonymous,,,,,1505273995 141341113,141351106,2017-09-13 03:40:32,">>141351060 women are worse than men though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505274032 141341113,141351117,2017-09-13 03:40:40,">>141345768 healthcare is much more cheaper in a free market pic related",,Anonymous,1353545209673.png,ToJnpEms2s4wNkpzgsgrqQ==,,,1505274040 141341113,141351221,2017-09-13 03:42:25,To the libertarians supporting the state - why? What's the function in a state that justifies it above an anarcho-capitalist society? If you claim to be a libertarian yet advocate for a state then you're a hypocrite.,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1505274145 141341113,141351273,2017-09-13 03:43:17,">>141351106 it's your right to think so, and you can even forbid women from entering your property, but you can't force other people to support your opinion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274197 141341113,141351279,2017-09-13 03:43:23,>>141351221,,Anonymous,ancap3.png,wGUCBrqJBWHz+ilPcmMqnA==,US,,1505274203 141341113,141351395,2017-09-13 03:45:36,">tfw we will forever have decent gun laws because one of most powerful poltical forces in the entire country is fucking gamekeepers lobby >they are so deep rooted and powerful that if there is a deep state here they represent it for some reason bunch of deer hunting robin hood cosplayers being the single most powerful group in czech politics (unlike other lobbies, gamekeepers have ties in all parties across the spectrum) triggers me, but at the same time I'm glad that this secures we keep our guns",,Anonymous,myslivci-zajici-ilustr_denik-630.jpg,3FI+OYdnl+J004ZDcnZNTA==,CZ,,1505274336 141341113,141351414,2017-09-13 03:45:50,">>141351279 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1505274350 141341113,141351457,2017-09-13 03:46:36,">>141351221 Libertarians are minarchists because they believe certain functions can't be handled better by, or trusted to, the private sector - eg defence, border control, foreign relations etc",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505274396 141341113,141351487,2017-09-13 03:47:06,">>141347727 Why are anti-free market cucks so fucking stupid? I mean you're just angry cultists at this point that can't defend your viewpoint.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274426 141341113,141351499,2017-09-13 03:47:19,>>141351414,,Anonymous,ancap3.jpg,cRpS5iuO58i5lPHo27arGw==,US,,1505274439 141341113,141351542,2017-09-13 03:47:59,">>141347777 this entire image is a pathetic strawman argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274479 141341113,141351616,2017-09-13 03:49:13,">>141351221 nothing wrong with the state, fuck you I'm a free market nationalist. If you think the state isn't necessary when AI comes along, you're fucking nuts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274553 141341113,141351656,2017-09-13 03:49:45,">>141351395 I used to have a gamekeeper mate years ago. He also used to work on a Highland estate as a pro stalker for the deer hunting season. Sounded like a real comfy job.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505274585 141341113,141351669,2017-09-13 03:49:53,">>141351003 US Libertarians gave in to hopelessness as a movement and thats sad but its alive and well all over the world, yanks need to get enthusiastic like the Brazilians. >>141350189 > 200 states Pass. >>141351117 Looking into this myself its even worse than I thought. Unions & marxists lobbying for a national insurance scheme, the arguments they used then have all been proven false but nobody remembers, the newspaper clippings, the regulations, the success of community welfare that people took for granted. Very sad history in all western countries. >>141351221 Fear breeds irrationality & justification.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274593 141341113,141351737,2017-09-13 03:51:14,">>141351221 well, i'm being a realist here - if we ever happen to establish Libertariland, we will need a government-like thing to communicate with other cunt trees, because the entire population can't just go to a sammit. other states will also be able to contact our ""government"" if they have to tell us something instead of finding a way to contact every single citizen. i also think that there should be private courts, but if you think a court's judgement was unjust, a govt-like thing would check if this court followed NAP and other rules in its judgement and didn't give someone a sentence bc someone else paid them to do so. other than that, everything should be private, and this ""government"" is, in fact, a private structure too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274674 141341113,141351761,2017-09-13 03:51:32,">>141351669 >US Libertarians gave in to hopelessness as a movement and thats sad but its alive and well all over the world, yanks need to get enthusiastic like the Brazilians. lmao since when are Brazilians libertarian? just because some people are anti-socialist doesn't mean they are libertarian they don't even know what liberty is",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274692 141341113,141351786,2017-09-13 03:51:56,">>141351616 If and when a true AGI pops up, you trust the state to deal with It?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505274716 141341113,141351800,2017-09-13 03:52:06,Reminder that it's mathematically impossible for unions and the workers rights movement to have improved living standards and wages for workers in the past 150 years.,,Anonymous,,,,,1505274726 141341113,141351931,2017-09-13 03:54:25,">>141351761 Nigher they're protesting en mass with signs saying ""less marx more Mises"" like these cunts actually read books unlike most Liberts in the US these days. They impeached a president, took over the country, forced a dialogue & change, are running candidates and have spread the libertarian message across the country. Its beautiful.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274865 141341113,141351982,2017-09-13 03:55:10,">>141347777 >Libertarians >reading kek, good one.",,Anonymous,Libertarians.png,xZRxt3TOdF4lJeCxS6ej4g==,,,1505274910 141341113,141352006,2017-09-13 03:55:34,>>141351982,,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,,,1505274934 141341113,141352037,2017-09-13 03:56:18,">>141351786 I trust the state to control and limit AI, yes. If true AI consciousness is even possible, it should be allowed to exist. Non-conscious AI that solves human problems is perfectly fine though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274978 141341113,141352043,2017-09-13 03:56:24,Isn't anarcho-capilatism just feudalism with the ability to rise above your status?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505274984 141341113,141352045,2017-09-13 03:56:25,>>141352006,,Anonymous,AnCap snail.png,aNnWzwXZHvxAP7wOlWykTQ==,,,1505274985 141341113,141352054,2017-09-13 03:56:35,">>141351931 >Nigher they're protesting en mass with signs saying ""less marx more Mises prove it",,Anonymous,,,,,1505274995 141341113,141352084,2017-09-13 03:57:17,">>141351931 >look up brazilian government >its coalition of like 70 parties >and it includes literal communists ayyy",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1505275037 141341113,141352101,2017-09-13 03:57:36,">>141352043 It's literal utopianism. Everyone will universally agree on their NAP, and everything totally won't descend into an absolute shitshow",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505275056 141341113,141352130,2017-09-13 03:58:01,">>141352045 Goodnight, fags. Have fun with your civic nationalism and slavery to banks and jews.",,Anonymous,AnCaps.png,xeqbmAVCvmhUvzcJnQseYw==,,,1505275081 141341113,141352168,2017-09-13 03:58:46,">>141351982 >>141352006 It's pretty hilarious when you can't hold up your own argument and need to post other people's dumb strawman arguments instead. You're too angry to actually be open minded and question your own ideology. cultist cuck. national (((socialism)))",,Anonymous,1504582554899.gif,HcRwK4VrJ0hywPJapKjbyA==,,,1505275126 141341113,141352180,2017-09-13 03:59:10,I like snek,,Anonymous,18319823798123.jpg,THVmsptl0gXmj3qq5a12OA==,,,1505275150 141341113,141352215,2017-09-13 03:59:50,">>141352045 >>141352130 You literally support central banking lmao you support a jewish created system of banking CARTEL also anarcho capitalism worked for 1000 years in ireland, it also existed in iceland and the american midwest during the 1800s. stay mad loser",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275190 141341113,141352258,2017-09-13 04:00:35,">>141351457 Libertarians are minarchists because they are not willing to actually put down the time and effort into researching into their own ideology, and into other ideologies. Libertarians claiming that they are for freedom are hypocrites, since they're not working towards a sustainable form of maximal freedom.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1505275235 141341113,141352284,2017-09-13 04:01:04,">>141352054 > menos marx > mais mises > who is john galt? Tell me you wouldnt kill for normies to do this in your country? >>141352084 Its recent theyre workin on it. Theyre sifting through thick corruption and a thick corrupt establishment give them time. Theyre active and enthusiastic.",,Anonymous,e71aac5385706795022181ee8083d0e0.jpg,8no48EUZqgGbSMWROOKzmQ==,,,1505275264 141341113,141352352,2017-09-13 04:02:21,">>141352037 A true AGI is indistinguishable from humans, and in order to learn, must be self modifying. Which means it can very quickly increase intelligence exponentially. This is obviously dangerous as it must be friendly to human values. All work afaik on fAI ethics (constraining AIs to human-centred judgments) is currently in the private sector.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505275341 141341113,141352425,2017-09-13 04:03:43,"ancaps BTFO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_monopoly",,Anonymous,Natural Monopoly.png,Fi2qZUz3lFbxd20uHBHQ3g==,US,,1505275423 141341113,141352433,2017-09-13 04:03:49,">>141352284 >literally 1 picture of 2 people that's not anything at all the anti-government protesters were vast majority not libertarian",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275429 141341113,141352481,2017-09-13 04:04:52,">>141352352 True AI is probably impossible. There will be a limit to computation. inb4 muh quantum computers",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275492 141341113,141352518,2017-09-13 04:05:30,">>141352425 Countless books have been written by ancaps debunking this man you people are pathetic https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275530 141341113,141352601,2017-09-13 04:07:05,">>141352168 Who knows, maybe I'll get you to read some of them one day. Until then, I'm not going to waste my time typing shit out for people who can't analyze posts given to them. Also, I don't think you know what a strawman is. >>141352215 >people shooting and robbing each other >constantly fighting with injuns >it working okay.jpg Goodnight for real this time.",,Anonymous,Libertarians and Ancaps ready to be overrun by commies.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,,,1505275625 141341113,141352623,2017-09-13 04:07:39,">>141352433 How don't you know about this yet? I'm not going to sit on google all night getting you hundreds of photos and linking videos of the speeches during the rallies, im not making shit up look yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275659 141341113,141352641,2017-09-13 04:08:06,">>141352284 >https://www.KIKEbook.com/Free-Brazil-Movement-1404137409916889/ >300 likes AHAHAHAHAHAHA HOW IS THIS A MOVEMENT Face it, libertarianism is dead.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275686 141341113,141352658,2017-09-13 04:08:20,">>141352425 *cough* bullshit *cough*",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275700 141341113,141352737,2017-09-13 04:10:00,">>141352601 >Who knows, maybe I'll get you to read some of them one day. Until then, I'm not going to waste my time typing shit out for people who can't analyze posts given to them. >Also, I don't think you know what a strawman is. You literally do not have an argument, you are lazy as FUCK and you cannot read. >I angrily post on online forums against people who are anti my ideology but I'm too stupid to actually debate them >>people shooting and robbing each other This was actually a jew holywood myth. You are brainwashed. The american midwest was actually very very peaceful. >constantly fighting with injuns You mean state actors? lol",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275800 141341113,141352789,2017-09-13 04:11:00,">>141352623 >How don't you know about this yet? because you posted a picture of 2 people and are pretending the brazillian anti-government movement is somehow libertarian, when there are like 2 libertarians in the whole thing pathetic >im not making shit up look yourself. You are because their facebook group has only 300 likes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275860 141341113,141352813,2017-09-13 04:11:25,">>141352481 Computing power isnt the constraint though. The constraint is coding an AI that can self learn and think. >inb4 you mention that form of technology that will be used in the future durr",,Anonymous,,,,,1505275885 141341113,141352909,2017-09-13 04:13:39,">>141341113 gotta say, that is one cringeworthy image, OP. Also, all this ""right wing"" shit basically means you guys are doing it wrong, you're supposed to be libertarian in public and natsoc in private, somehow you're managing to do neither. Get it together senpai",,Anonymous,,,,,1505276019 141341113,141353008,2017-09-13 04:15:23,">>141352813 they are both constraints",,Anonymous,,,,,1505276123 141341113,141353057,2017-09-13 04:16:09,">>141352518 I've read through this before. The classic example of a ""natural monopoly"" is water. Most towns get their water from a single reservoir, and a single water purification plant. It's only efficient to have 1 network of pipes running from the reservoir to each house in the town, therefore there is no real competition here. It's not like the individuals in each house can pick and choose which water company they want to pipe in, the entire town is subject to just 1 supplier, they must all agree on this supplier collectively. If this supplier happens to be a private company, they will be subject to monopoly prices. In this article, Rothbard tries to combat this by saying that the real problem is, governments are putting restrictions on how many companies can dig up the streets. Totally ridiculous. Most towns have just 1 road connecting them. Therefore, this road is a functional monopoly. It wouldn't even be efficient to have 5 or 6 roads running between the same 2 locations, all competing with each other. Therefore, this road is what we call a natural monopoly. The power grid is a natural monopoly. The water and sewage system are natural monopolies. Etc, etc",,Anonymous,lel.png,lO/aLC0ysFbzLfPoaloImg==,US,,1505276169 141341113,141353100,2017-09-13 04:17:00,">>141352641 Their main pages have a shit tonne of likes, the most any political org in the country.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505276220 141341113,141353348,2017-09-13 04:21:07,">>141352789 Idiot Movimento Brasil Livre has 2.3 million likes. They dont speak english in brazil. http://reason.com/reasontv/2016/08/03/how-brazils-libertarian-movement-helped Watch their interview on youtube too.",,Anonymous,ft-brazil-protests.png,r8wkB+VbUckagYpfAvy7Zg==,,,1505276467 141341113,141353454,2017-09-13 04:22:41,">>141341113 centrists get the bullet to",,Anonymous,,,,,1505276561 141341113,141353574,2017-09-13 04:24:37,">>141353348 >Idiot Movimento Brasil Livre has 2.3 million likes. They dont speak english in brazil. How the fuck is this libertarian at all? Also I already watched the reason video.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505276677 141341113,141353671,2017-09-13 04:26:28,">>141352813 Constrained =/= Impossible Theres no way to calculate how much computing power is needed or whether we can provide it. We're already seeing programs that can learn. On topic though. State ownership of AI is equally dangerous as private sector AI. States warring AI, State using AI to spy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505276788 141341113,141353682,2017-09-13 04:26:44,">>141353348 The libertarian movement in brazil has about the same amount of facebook views than john olvier's last week tonight?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505276804 141341113,141353696,2017-09-13 04:26:57,">Austrian economics in 2017 While Austrians have been circle jerking in their thought bubble for at least the last half a century, neoclassical economics gave us these ideas: Human capital theory Rational expectations macroeconomics The random walk view of financial markets Signaling models Public choice theory Natural rate models of unemployment Time consistency The Prisoners' Dilemma, coordination games, and hawk-dove games The Ricardian equivalence argument for debt-neutrality Contestable markets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505276817 141341113,141353718,2017-09-13 04:27:18,">>141353008 >>141353671 Memes",,Anonymous,,,,,1505276838 141341113,141353810,2017-09-13 04:28:54,">>141341454 >in favour of closed borders i.e. they're not real libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505276934 141341113,141353853,2017-09-13 04:29:37,">>141341113 How do lolbertarians reconcile the fact that their ideology is pretty much founded and owned by Jews?",,Anonymous,IMG_0755.jpg,a7Ar9EWjiV3ekrF75UJoTw==,,,1505276977 141341113,141353854,2017-09-13 04:29:38,">>141353348 answer me faggot how are they actually libertarian? do they even know about libertarian ideals?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505276978 141341113,141354152,2017-09-13 04:35:00,">>141348509 don't tell me you're that dumb to consider ""rules"" are a statist thing only The difference between statist and private is that rules are legitimated, as propietors choose freely what to rule where they have right to do so and everyone else voluntarly accepts these rules to be enforced upon them It's called contracts you fkin normie",,Anonymous,,,,,1505277300 141341113,141354292,2017-09-13 04:37:26,">>141352481 tfw you pretend to build intelligent software while you know absolute shit about the biological intelligence",,Anonymous,1485795400629.jpg,Ku9UUgIcGVc+mZtTln54Yw==,,,1505277446 141341113,141354356,2017-09-13 04:38:37,>>141354152,,Anonymous,ancap5.jpg,YvfuO45CQIEzJtrI0HwQXw==,US,,1505277517 141341113,141354367,2017-09-13 04:38:49,">>141353853 How do national (((socialists))) reconcile the fact that their ideology is pretty much influenced by and owned by Jews? Libertarianism was created by the scottish. Fuck you bootlicking kike.",,Anonymous,1491993624421.png,A+U0uc+5K8sDTutQZm9GLw==,,,1505277529 141341113,141354400,2017-09-13 04:39:21,">>141354356 why can you retards do nothing but strawman? everyone is laughing at you",,Anonymous,,,,,1505277561 141341113,141354441,2017-09-13 04:40:05,"Reminder that worker's rights movements and unions are fucking CANCER and only served to destroy workers rights. People that think unions are good are usually of very low IQ and very simple minded.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505277605 141341113,141354482,2017-09-13 04:40:45,">>141353853 Rothbard called Elie Wiesel a ""professional holocaust survivor"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505277645 141341113,141354693,2017-09-13 04:44:46,">>141354400 Lel I made arguments here, and nobody responded >>141353057 >>141354441 >collective ownership is cancer >owns stocks",,Anonymous,ancap10.jpg,YtPN9wFOe8Go9+7ZbYfq0g==,US,,1505277886 141341113,141354987,2017-09-13 04:49:58,">>141354693 Nobody said anything was bad about voluntary collective ownership also nobody said anything about collective ownership of stocks was bad only UNIONS and worker's rights movements they are fucking tumors that destroyed living standards for workers kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,,,1505278198 141341113,141355107,2017-09-13 04:51:58,">>141354987 >unions are bad for workers >has never worked a low wage job in his life",,Anonymous,1497781634757.jpg,4PjVJJ80BZBV30PJbmxqMQ==,US,,1505278318 141341113,141355250,2017-09-13 04:54:32,">>141346825 Spoken like a woken burger",,Anonymous,1503202320459.gif,NgJyzUnNb2aKe9f48m1OUQ==,NZ,,1505278472 141341113,141355291,2017-09-13 04:55:18,">>141354356 Rent is not taxation or is it?",,Anonymous,1489711049595.png,ylGct6eT6Bi0TlMi/FPjNg==,,,1505278518 141341113,141355359,2017-09-13 04:56:42,">>141354356 >Legitimate reason to break the NAP",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1505278602 141341113,141355374,2017-09-13 04:56:58,">>141355107 Holy shit kill yourself I have worked COUNTLESS low wage jobs. I've worked in fast food, sheet metal stamping, lawn care, data entry, sanitation, agriculture(corn detasseling) etc. Thanks to my experience I now make 25 dollars an hour. Statistically speaking, you worthless leftist economically illiterate pieces of shit have never worked a day in your life. You and your pathetic ideology are parasites on the economy and humanity. Gas yourself.",,Anonymous,1493549177930.jpg,cr2fW4oLPAJJJ3aa3HI9kw==,,,1505278618 141341113,141355450,2017-09-13 04:58:17,">>141354367 created by scottish? spanish scholastics actualy, at least the academic root of it",,Anonymous,,,,,1505278697 141341113,141355481,2017-09-13 04:58:41,">>141346825 The medical industry cartel is the worst. These John Oliver watching bootlicking cucks will defend it though.",,Anonymous,1493114179042.jpg,fw2siAr+wUFB7qBnnKWPPQ==,,,1505278721 141341113,141355998,2017-09-13 05:08:19,">>141353854 Yeah they do, privatization, free trade, social liberties, free speech etc. Like I said they actually hand out and sell Libertarian books to the masses, chant libertarian style chants, make libertarian style videos etc. They're a brilliant model for the rest of us. Take note faggots.",,Anonymous,Protest-Brazil-cc-565x354.jpg,npXNvQ2+d8AApyDkUcaA3w==,,,1505279299 141341113,141356343,2017-09-13 05:14:52,">>141351499 There's a reason why in the cannon of law of all nations which recognize property rights there is a specific carveout for someone to enter your property to neutralize a danger to others, or for them to lend reasonable assistance to a person in need (IE if somone calls for help but they're on your property). This last one constitutes an invitation to enter the property, and in the case of the former, the danger being sufficient, no reasonable person would have denied you access to their property to solve the problem.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505279692 141341113,141356517,2017-09-13 05:18:04,,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1505294150126.jpg,Nlx1OPH8s6eL5NZ8E639+Q==,,,1505279884 141341113,141356557,2017-09-13 05:18:40,">>141356343 >implying all people will universally accept your specific prescribed morality across the board >implying the law of the jungle won't reign",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505279920 141341113,141356783,2017-09-13 05:22:40,,,Anonymous,menos-marx-mais-mises-ruas-2-425x565.jpg,fy7oPCh9ZcMTSo2W1GIErQ==,,,1505280160 141341113,141357381,2017-09-13 05:33:14,">>141355998 why haven't I heard of these faggots before where do you get your sources from also the peak of their movement was 2 years ago old news its dead",,Anonymous,,,,,1505280794 141341113,141357500,2017-09-13 05:35:27,friendly reminder corporatism is the only valid economic system,,Anonymous,IMG_0127.jpg,d6CulZxAb5D/hqhd2gDmtw==,NL,,1505280927 141341113,141357617,2017-09-13 05:37:35,">>141356557 >specific prescribed morality and why do we care about you again?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505281055 141341113,141357777,2017-09-13 05:40:32,">>141357500 We live in corporatism now it sucks ass",,Anonymous,,,,,1505281232 141341113,141357844,2017-09-13 05:41:51,Do libtards not care that like 10% of what they earn goes to pay the national debt?,,Anonymous,,,,,1505281311 141341113,141357955,2017-09-13 05:43:43,">>141357777 no we dont >>141357844 >libtards says the liberal retard, bit ironic",,Anonymous,Musso8.jpg,IWJQh6NWmMOJEpvG6P7tww==,NL,,1505281423 141341113,141358042,2017-09-13 05:45:23,">>141357955 >no we dont Yes, yes we do >the government literally steals our purchasing power and gives it to corporations which have massive amounts of power, much more than they would have in a free market how is this not corporatism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505281523 141341113,141358061,2017-09-13 05:45:41,">>141357955 >muh eurocuck political words lmao",,Anonymous,,,,,1505281541 141341113,141358222,2017-09-13 05:48:47,">>141341319 Stop shitting on agorism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505281727 141341113,141358240,2017-09-13 05:49:07,"Anti free market people need to be killed with bombs and guns. I don't want to work my entire life away. Fuck work Fuck the workweek and fuck socialism smash central banks",,Anonymous,,,,,1505281747 141341113,141358302,2017-09-13 05:50:03,">>141358042 >>141358061 the original defenition of corportism. The different facets of society, which are represnted by guilds or contemporary equivilants, cooperating for betterment of the nation. corpo, like in body, get it.",,Anonymous,salutoromano.jpg,CCc7FpKSm9EwjbKLKxZl0Q==,NL,,1505281803 141341113,141358314,2017-09-13 05:50:18,">>141357381 Because you probs dont speak portugese, probs dont look for success and are probably pessimistic. They're active right now, carving it up in Brazil and I don't know any political movement with 2.3 million likes on facebook. Maybe Trumps personal page? Liberty is rising all around south america and bits of Asia too. Elections don't take place every year and progress take time. These guys have done phenominally well compared to the US, Aus & British Libertarians. We need to step up.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1505294104828.jpg,hDQ9D+1gMvdhOpA+wo+Kkg==,,,1505281818 141341113,141358719,2017-09-13 05:58:17,">>141358302 sounds like a poverty ridden shithole sounds like obamanomics funny thing about fascists, they can't differentiate their monetary policies from the present US central bank policy virtually zero interest rates, no ""usury""",,Anonymous,,,,,1505282297 141341113,141358780,2017-09-13 05:59:33,">>141358314 how do you know the people in the movement are actual libertarians and not just liking the movement for it's anti government action? if there were actually 2.3 mil likes, then you would see a lot more Brazilians liking mises.org videos etc",,Anonymous,,,,,1505282373 141341113,141358872,2017-09-13 06:01:04,">>141358719 no it doesnt sound like that. Fascism is build on autarky. The us central bank is an internalist organization run by jews. Stop talming nonsense",,Anonymous,moses.jpg,DnI23WChr3JBIEPgH9vKpQ==,NL,,1505282464 141341113,141359468,2017-09-13 06:11:56,">>141358222 >DUDE SELLING WEED WILL BRING DOWN THE STATE No.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505283116 141341113,141359485,2017-09-13 06:12:13,">>141358872 oh so fascism is against central banking? Stop talming nonsense",,Anonymous,,,,,1505283133 141341113,141359592,2017-09-13 06:14:18,">>141359485 yes, they are against central banking.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505283258 141341113,141359874,2017-09-13 06:19:00,">>141359592 proof?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505283540 141341113,141359949,2017-09-13 06:20:21,">>141359485 >>141359592 a central bank operated by the state is necesarry to achieve autarky",,Anonymous,Mussolini_helicopter.gif,MJsk5dnYml1nBsmHsOLF1g==,NL,,1505283621 141341113,141360001,2017-09-13 06:21:21,">>141358780 Its not a party of pure libertarians. Its an anti government movement run by libertarians that welcomes everyone in and spreads its message to those people. You're never going to have like 51% of people say ""I'm an anarcho capitalist"", that would be naive. Studies show that most people barely even reach 50% agreement with major party platforms and that anywhere betwee 16-31% of people in the US hold beliefs closer to libertarianism than the other parties even if its not explicit. So for them to capture these people + the anti government people, spread the ideas to them to this degree is a major major win. Having people chant about privatization, freedom, antigovernment, handing out books and discussing marx and mises online its brilliant. Its like the libertarian party, a lot of libertarians, ancaps, classical liberals, pot lovers, innawoods guys etc. Imagine that encompassing such a major movement in the US & other western countries? The point is they're active and they're pulling the culture/public opinion in our direction and getting the message to a massive platform they've built. I dont know what more you'd want thats politicaly and socialy realistic.",,Anonymous,BrazilLaserVisionLibertarian2014-09-30-thumb-468x263-4224.jpg,ygD8Mn8mYwxN2p2mzD3Paw==,,,1505283681 141341113,141360265,2017-09-13 06:26:15,">>141359874 >>141359949 My bad, this guy is for central banking. Mussolini was a commie faggot >autarky you mean to say its neccesary to have a central bank in order for you to dominate your nation and your people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505283975 141341113,141360276,2017-09-13 06:26:24,">>141341113 Should I sell my 3rd child to the repair the road in front of my house? I've already got a contract drawn up for the repairs with the consent of my neighbours, we are just going to buy some beach sand and fill the potholes, but I can't afford my share and am wondering if selling children somehow violates the NAP? Thanks, praise rothbard",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505283984 141341113,141360376,2017-09-13 06:27:57,">>141360276 just get another job, dont sell your kids.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284077 141341113,141360397,2017-09-13 06:28:16,">>141360001 tell me what john oliver said about him I hate him he must have said something bad",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284096 141341113,141360417,2017-09-13 06:28:35,">>141359468 >>DUDE SELLING WEED WILL BRING DOWN THE STATE >No. How on earth do you think socialism in Eastern Europe collapsed? The black market was instrumental in bringing down the state controlled economy. If you really believe agorism is about selling weed you're seriously deluded. The black market is the freest market.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284115 141341113,141360464,2017-09-13 06:29:20,">>141360276 >Should I sell my 3rd child to the repair the road in front of my house? It's illegal to sell humans in a free market and road repair would be extemely cheap in a free market what is your argument?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284160 141341113,141360477,2017-09-13 06:29:39,">>141360276 you should just kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284179 141341113,141360574,2017-09-13 06:31:33,">>141360265 >commie faggot he, together with gentile, created the fascist ideology. Not only is your name calling stale, but also false. >dominate your nation its called leading a national rebirth anon.",,Anonymous,2671014_orig.jpg,cksfDOKRMNTVe55sQqegcQ==,NL,,1505284293 141341113,141360648,2017-09-13 06:32:37,">>141341749 https://youtu.be/uGld3FbDY6s 5:55 onward",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505284357 141341113,141360680,2017-09-13 06:33:02,">>141360417 sure, but untill the market is so regulated that regular buisnesses trade outside the states watch you're pretty much limited to selling weed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284382 141341113,141360771,2017-09-13 06:34:31,">>141360574 Mussolini was a commie faggot, it is the basis of the fascist ideology. Communist scum.",,Anonymous,LOB2.png,efiWvwyUmf9ZRpRfZGHoBg==,,,1505284471 141341113,141360823,2017-09-13 06:35:24,">>141360265 >Mussolini was a commie faggot Almost as if the average ancap is a 15 year old who believes falsehoods just to he edgy and stand out",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505284524 141341113,141360967,2017-09-13 06:38:01,">>141351616 >I'm a free market nationalist",,Anonymous,DACCfQ0UwAA9Yn0.jpg,EnRMLYW0oMzMS7q1CYlbzg==,GB,,1505284681 141341113,141361048,2017-09-13 06:39:33,">>141360823 so where is the biography that details him as anything other than a young commie? ""its a falsehood!"" doesn't cut it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284773 141341113,141361075,2017-09-13 06:40:00,">>141351616 >nothing wrong with the state now thats jewish.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284800 141341113,141361116,2017-09-13 06:40:34,">>141360680 Black market is already a thing, ever since internet sites like craigslist and the like exist. Or do you think people pay taxes on the stuff they sell there? Same with BTC and crypto, they're methods of evading the attempt of the state to control the economy. Whether you like it or not, agorism is the most coherent of all libertarian practices. It recognizes the state as a hindrance and just ignores it or tries to act out of the sphere of its influence. An agorist is just a coherent ancap, and both have far more in common that with minarchist libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284834 141341113,141361204,2017-09-13 06:42:12,">>141361116 get back to me when agorism brings down the state. I'm waiting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505284932 141341113,141361363,2017-09-13 06:44:43,"Milton Friedman vs Trump on trade: https://youtu.be/7DhagKyvDck",,Anonymous,,,,,1505285083 141341113,141361452,2017-09-13 06:46:17,">>141361048 Philosophical beliefs are not static, in fact they are completely dynamic and will change and evolve throughout someone's life. Only a teen with no life experience is foolish enough to think otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505285177 141341113,141361521,2017-09-13 06:47:28,">>141361363 >friedman Friedman is a threat to liberty. https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard43.html",,Anonymous,,,,,1505285248 141341113,141361611,2017-09-13 06:48:55,">>141360771 no arguments? Tell me earlier next time. Retarded libertarian queers can only call people commies",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505285335 141341113,141361682,2017-09-13 06:50:06,">>141361204 >underground economy bigger every day >debt skyrocketing, the state more and more bankrupt >more and more people opting out of easily taxable corporate jobs and going freelance, self employed or just going overseas. >businesses localizing themselves in low tax jurisdictions while serving people living in high tax ones. >tax evasion increases every year, tax revenue stagnates >taxes every day harder to collect due to information technology >bureaucracy growing with no control eating more and more of whatever revenue is taxed >unrestrained deficit spending coupled with massive currency emission that will spike inflation sooner or later I pity you if you can't see the symptoms of a state-controlled economy beginning to fail.",,Anonymous,law.jpg,Uz5MANa1WBlL3obJt/eeKw==,,,1505285406 141341113,141361748,2017-09-13 06:51:17,>>141361682,,Anonymous,gold price.png,IMSUIbdSDeVJI9iDPYHUKA==,US,,1505285477 141341113,141361763,2017-09-13 06:51:38,>>141361748,,Anonymous,silver price.png,cYwBF8iM5YlnIqbnwVWOGQ==,US,,1505285498 141341113,141361783,2017-09-13 06:51:56,">>141361452 Its quite apparent to anyone who doesn't worship him that his basis is in revolutionary socialism. >>141361611 we're gonna make communist an insult again. we'll say it twice as much as the antifa kiddies shout ""racist"" and we'll run all you communist dipshits out of town.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505285516 141341113,141361785,2017-09-13 06:51:57,>>141361763,,Anonymous,Dow vs. Gold.png,Z4fdoZ3s/1bKkKlN3nqeGg==,US,,1505285517 141341113,141361937,2017-09-13 06:54:36,">>141361783 the fact that im not a communist means that calling me one does not insult me",,Anonymous,A00077559.jpg,I25G0Nw9lX8WfQrUg4ZmxQ==,NL,,1505285676 141341113,141361957,2017-09-13 06:54:58,">>141361204 Agorism is brilliant, you cant vote in freedom. The only realistic way is to sife step the state, render it obsolete, create alternatives to its functions, to secede, to not comply, to be active on a community by community level its beautiful. >>141361521 Okay. > In a time of war we blockade our enemies to prevent them from getting goods from us. In a time of peace we do to ourselves with tariffs what we do to our enemies in a time of war > the fundamental misunderstanding over free trade is people not recognizing the role of a floating exchange rate Brilliant man. Flawed but brilliant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505285698 141341113,141362081,2017-09-13 06:57:06,">>141361937 National Communist, whatever.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505285826 141341113,141362239,2017-09-13 06:59:53,">>141362081 being a communist has implication other than ""someone that isnt a libertarian"". And these do not apply to me",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505285993 141341113,141362437,2017-09-13 07:03:19,">>141362239 I'm not gonna argue with a commie worshipping fag. You're a communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505286199 141341113,141362501,2017-09-13 07:04:30,">>141361748 >>141361763 >>141361785 Why aren't you buying then? You think the boom effects of QE will last forever?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505286270 141341113,141362595,2017-09-13 07:06:07,">>141362501 >C'mon guys buy into it so I can cash out!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505286367 141341113,141362614,2017-09-13 07:06:32,">>141362437 you lack any sort argumentative skill peabrain. A communist society is an egalitarian stateless society where the means of production are owned by the proletariat. I do not wish for this",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505286392 141341113,141362812,2017-09-13 07:10:03,">>141362595 Yeah because the precious metals aren't a multibillion market and your buying will mean shit. Stop being a fag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505286603 141341113,141362867,2017-09-13 07:11:06,">>141362614 You want the means of production run by the state, more of a Bernie modern communist. Anyway communists aren't too be argued with, but rather ridiculed or put down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505286666 141341113,141363200,2017-09-13 07:16:33,">>141362867 a socialist state is seen as a way to promote class truggle and egalize society. The fascist state argues for class cooperation",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505286993 141341113,141363829,2017-09-13 07:25:53,">>141363200 Both of which are liars who did nothing of the sort. Communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505287553 141341113,141364141,2017-09-13 07:31:00,">>141363200 Congrats, you realized egalitarianism is retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505287860 141341113,141364409,2017-09-13 07:35:53,">>141364141 I never ever said im egalitarian",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505288153 141341113,141364442,2017-09-13 07:36:23,">>141360967 >being a socialism supporting kike",,Anonymous,,,,,1505288183 141341113,141364572,2017-09-13 07:38:33,">>141364409 Re read my post you dumb communist, I didn't imply that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505288313 141341113,141364711,2017-09-13 07:40:42,">>141364572 you implied i just now realized its retardation, meaning I sympathized with it before my post",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505288442 141341113,141364712,2017-09-13 07:40:43,Kill all commies,,Anonymous,,,,,1505288443 141341113,141364749,2017-09-13 07:41:15,">>141361785 >>141361748 >>141361763 Why is bitcoin beating both GOLD and the dollar?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505288475 141341113,141364796,2017-09-13 07:42:06,">>141364711 I'm glad you we're never under such illusion. Communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505288526 141341113,141364846,2017-09-13 07:43:01,">>141364712 Or even better, force them to live in communes via ostracism. Communism gets really shitty when you have no other people's money to leech. Working 16hrs per day sowing potatoes and getting goat shit to your knees just not to starve is a good way to learn how shitty communism really is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505288581 141341113,141364865,2017-09-13 07:43:18,">>141364796 >communist you btfo'd me",,Anonymous,01396938b9910e7ff96042831ff84885aca0cdf0b9ac362491b835fe7bee1a3a.jpg,mz5cs40wqSb10td6A86zyw==,NL,,1505288598 141341113,141365006,2017-09-13 07:45:54,">>141364865 You want all the same institutions as the communists and tankies, the only difference with you is that you promise to be a better Steward of those institutions. You're the same thing in practice. You're ideology means nothing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505288754 141341113,141365027,2017-09-13 07:46:09,">>141364846 I'd rather just kill them honestly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505288769 141341113,141365162,2017-09-13 07:48:29,John Oliver needs to be killed,,Anonymous,,,,,1505288909 141341113,141365216,2017-09-13 07:49:25,">>141365162 This kill that beady communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505288965 141341113,141365266,2017-09-13 07:50:03,">>141365006 yea true. Im done for, i will never recover from this. After ignoring all my posts and just making baseless assumption you destroyed me",,Anonymous,image_16.jpg,dlt4i9yHdgYHdHbWftnzYQ==,NL,,1505289003 141341113,141365537,2017-09-13 07:54:43,">>141365266 Glad we sorted that out, now fuck on outta here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505289283 141341113,141365575,2017-09-13 07:55:10,"The only acceptable libertarians in OP's pic are Ron Paul, Rothbard, Mises, Hoppe and Bastiat.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505289310 141341113,141365695,2017-09-13 07:57:03,">>141365537 >now fuck on outta here nah, shitting on liberals is my favourite past-time",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505289423 141341113,141366007,2017-09-13 08:01:43,">>141365575 Yeah that's an old image, we gave Friedman and Rand the boot.",,Anonymous,based_paleos.png,2mYdXJkr73SuUf7IFVNAYw==,US,,1505289703 141341113,141366166,2017-09-13 08:04:04,">>141366007 >llew can't you just admit they are ugly unappealing motherfuckers?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505289844 141341113,141366193,2017-09-13 08:04:31,">>141365695 Well then, you can fill my demand for shitting on communists while you're here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505289871 141341113,141366415,2017-09-13 08:08:05,">>141366166 Lew is perfect. Only a cuckbertatian would say otherwise.",,Anonymous,AIRBOURNE_LEW.png,iYmwYP5NxWA/Gk3IB7qjaA==,US,,1505290085 141341113,141366455,2017-09-13 08:08:36,">>141366193 there arent any here so I would be arguing with nobody",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505290116 141341113,141366733,2017-09-13 08:12:49,">>141366455 I'm not a liberal just like you're not a tankies right?",,Anonymous,061.jpg,U5M84CvW9Ti61SnDt+47OQ==,US,,1505290369 141341113,141366771,2017-09-13 08:13:18,">>141352909 >being neetsoc at all Not a chance ever since reading Anatomy of the State.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505290398 141341113,141366811,2017-09-13 08:13:46,">>141366733 >im not a liberal uhmmm, ues you are honey",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505290426 141341113,141366872,2017-09-13 08:14:43,">>141351117 Any references? Links?",,Anon,IMG_8642.jpg,uSSN6KApDqY+oa/sEnciTw==,,,1505290483 141341113,141366901,2017-09-13 08:15:11,">>141366811 >I'm not a communist Sweetie pls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505290511 141341113,141366935,2017-09-13 08:15:39,">>141353853 No such thing as intellectual property.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505290539 141341113,141366994,2017-09-13 08:16:29,">>141366872 http://www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.html sources and links at bottom its real",,Anonymous,,,,,1505290589 141341113,141367153,2017-09-13 08:18:52,What is your guy's opinion on Timothy Mcveigh,,Anonymous,mcveigh000.jpg,8RRSwhjRg9rL3iAhaeIhng==,,,1505290732 141341113,141367211,2017-09-13 08:19:48,">>141366901 classic liberal if you wil. sugarpop",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505290788 141341113,141367408,2017-09-13 08:22:50,">>141367153 Based.",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-04-10.31.21.jpg,Qstns/e3S4YP5W/vx3bzyA==,US,,1505290970 141341113,141367540,2017-09-13 08:24:42,">>141367408 was he truly /ourguy/?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505291082 141341113,141367592,2017-09-13 08:25:26,">>141352481 Skeptical ""true AI"" impossible, based on several stories about Google Translate Engine (might have been another Google product under dev) developing its own language that the developers couldn't decipher.",,Anon,IMG_8641.jpg,PuMWLJ1amjT9/iEFuInhiQ==,,,1505291126 141341113,141368013,2017-09-13 08:31:45,">>141367592 means nothing",,Anonymous,,,,,1505291505 141341113,141368174,2017-09-13 08:34:23,"libertarianism is dead no mature person supports it only pedos and heroin peddlers are concerned about le freedom",,Anonymous,DJM1GI4UQAA2bgs.jpg large.jpg,19Ur+5Ly0H32BKXx6Z2Mgg==,PL,,1505291663 141341113,141368208,2017-09-13 08:34:55,">>141367540 Absolutely.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505291695 141341113,141368306,2017-09-13 08:36:20,">>141368174 >dude just give up already and let corporations and the state fuck you in the ass Why do you cucks hate yourselves so much? You are literally corporate cocksuckers and it's hilarious.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505291780 141341113,141368446,2017-09-13 08:38:38,">>141368306 getting fucked in the ass by corporations is a libertardian thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1lRSt5uDSA",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1505291918 141341113,141369467,2017-09-13 08:53:23,Bump,,Anonymous,unknown-1.png,srEeR8MglT3zWZ5hZ+9vuA==,US,,1505292803 141341113,141369529,2017-09-13 08:54:15,">>141368446 >thom cuckman >leftist cuck corporate fascist that support central banking and giving trillions of dollars to bankers and corporations makes a butthurt video calling the people that want to free him ""le evil corporatists"" lmao gas yourselves how many corporate statist cocks have you sucked tonight?",,Anonymous,1495436952372.jpg,GwF7YvJic4q4AUXBppUrYQ==,,,1505292855 141341113,141370098,2017-09-13 09:02:54,">>141341113 Forcing conservatism is not actually needed. Most people will by instinct follow it as its how the humans normally work. But of course, not when being shamed and pressured into following the so called degeneracy. So, all you need to do is remove this leftist crap and all gets fixed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505293374 141341113,141370369,2017-09-13 09:06:56,">>141369529 >Hurf durf taxation wasn't real until income taxes It's amazing how little shit you actually know. So here is how taxes worked before income taxes. You were taxed based on what a tax adjuster thought your value was. A man from the government would show up, look at your stuff, do some math and serve you a bill. This meant that if you had a bad year, your taxes could be disproportionate to your income. Not to mention you were at the whims of one or a small hand full of tax collectors, who got to determine how much you owed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505293616 141341113,141370567,2017-09-13 09:10:14,">>141370369 And now you pay that tax in addition to the income tax.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505293814 141341113,141370652,2017-09-13 09:11:35,">le physical removal we are tuff too xD You're a bunch of jews",,Anonymous,,,,,1505293895 141341113,141370999,2017-09-13 09:16:39,">>141370652 Yeah, we're working for the Jews. That's why we want to abolish central banking and undermine Jewish state capitalism, corporatism, and socialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505294199 141341113,141371052,2017-09-13 09:17:26,">>141370999 Shhh. He might get triggered if you tell him we're against socialism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505294246 141341113,141371231,2017-09-13 09:20:04,">>141370652 So you're against physically removing communists and Democrats? What a fucking cuckboi.",,Anonymous,absolutely_treaded.png,yp/6grI6jZPtJVzq6PmGlw==,US,,1505294404 141341113,141371603,2017-09-13 09:26:16,">>141370999 >>141371052 >>141371231 You'll be removed along with them, faggots.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505294776 141341113,141371698,2017-09-13 09:28:08,">>141371603 Remove yourself",,Anonymous,1504132663960.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1505294888 141341113,141372104,2017-09-13 09:34:03,">>141371603 Illiterate orders will not be obeyed.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505295243 141341113,141372881,2017-09-13 09:45:03,">>141371231 It's not physical removal of communists. It's physical removal of all socialists - the national ones included.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505295903 141341113,141373005,2017-09-13 09:46:47,"Lots of anti-liberty shilling in this thread we scare (((them)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505296007 141341113,141373225,2017-09-13 09:49:50,">>141366007 but i love rand",,Anonymous,1505255633946.png,TBsPZ6k/z1u7BzCo3v9Rtg==,,,1505296190 141341113,141373384,2017-09-13 09:52:10,">>141370369 taxes were insanely low before the income tax the average business was charged very little nothing else you say really matters at this point taxes were EXTREMELY LOW and society thrived",,Anonymous,,,,,1505296330 141341113,141373409,2017-09-13 09:52:28,">>141373225 >Muh hyper individualism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505296348 141341113,141373471,2017-09-13 09:53:21,">>141373225 ran sucks but I love anime",,Anonymous,1491929273752.jpg,tB7UXDdyDY6/RxdVZwhMoQ==,,,1505296401 141341113,141374004,2017-09-13 10:00:19,">>141341113 What would be your weapons of choice to physically remove statists?",,Anonymous,ancoms.png,0Zvp+LlR3qa9L2qoLXSujw==,,,1505296819 141341113,141374115,2017-09-13 10:01:31,">>141344533 Downloaded",,Anonymous,,,,,1505296891 141341113,141374449,2017-09-13 10:06:27,">>141373409 as long you adhere to the nap, whats wrong with it ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505297187 141341113,141375086,2017-09-13 10:15:14,">>141374004 Barrel bombs dropped from helicopters.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505297714 141341113,141375108,2017-09-13 10:15:32,">>141374449 Rand basically said that the NAP is subjective and relative and undermined traditional values etc She's basically left-libertarian Right libertarians greatly value covenants of like-minded people, as long as involvement is non-coercive. In Paleolibertarian societies, there's actually quite a bit of governance, it's just all self governance that's totally optional to be involved in",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505297732 141341113,141375164,2017-09-13 10:16:15,hmm,,Anonymous,tumblr_ow6wsv6CJ01udfmseo1_540.jpg,3vEN2Tpnx29yuCA4VtZQ4A==,US,,1505297775 141341113,141375315,2017-09-13 10:18:17,">>141341183 >>141341218 >>141344533 >>141364712 >>141365162 >>141365027 >>141371603 >>141374004 You know for Libertarians, you guys are pretty focused on killing people who disagree with you",,Anonymous,frodo.png,k/fKrJIp/1/9x6oizcMgjA==,CA,,1505297897 141341113,141375372,2017-09-13 10:19:11,">>141375164 If they speak of the importance of blood and soil and don't deny property rights in their expression, they should not be silenced, provided that they have secured a platform. Antifa are communists, which means their life is a performative contradiction. They will have to be physically removed from sane society, and if they try subversion, then physically punished, by up to and including death.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505297951 141341113,141375406,2017-09-13 10:19:36,">>141375315 Communists aren't people.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1505297976 141341113,141375487,2017-09-13 10:20:40,">>141375372 This my man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505298040 141341113,141375531,2017-09-13 10:21:14,">>141375164 Permits are issued by government agency, also, a large population of nationalist/traditionalist voters is a symptom of a sick state. Despite what the term Nationalist might lead you to believe, they're nationalist in that they yearn for a return to the traditions of their nation, and they disagree heavily with the current political climate. If you have a sudden resurgence in NatSoc/Fascist/Nationalist/Traditionalist/etc populations it's because your state is coercive and they're looking for strong reform.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505298074 141341113,141375645,2017-09-13 10:22:42,">>141375315 Libertarianism is not pacifism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505298162 141341113,141375682,2017-09-13 10:23:07,">>141375406 If people want to live on a commune, why do you think they should be executed? That's going against the idea of libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505298187 141341113,141375721,2017-09-13 10:23:31,">>141375645 Being alive and a communist is not an act of aggression.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505298211 141341113,141375866,2017-09-13 10:25:42,"hoppe is actually braindead. Why do you want remove degenerates in order to create a system where degenrates flourish. The state is the moral authority to guide the people, to satisfy the needs of the whole nation and not the individual.",,Anonymous,John_Milton.jpg,mxUFswaX5I1EkioQ2a4KEQ==,NL,,1505298342 141341113,141375940,2017-09-13 10:26:33,">>141375682 Communes were a big thing in the 60s. Really big. They were everywhere. How many exist today. Pick a clue, moron.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505298393 141341113,141375945,2017-09-13 10:26:37,">>141375721 That's where you're wrong kiddo. Advocating communism is advocating the seizure of all private property. That's coercion just the same as the threat of violence implied by taxation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505298397 141341113,141376155,2017-09-13 10:29:40,">>141375866 You brainlet, the natural order Hoppe advocates is not degenerate, it's the purest form of eugenics. It is our current states that breed degeneracy.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1505298580 141341113,141376183,2017-09-13 10:30:00,">>141375315 nothing wrong with that senpai",,Anonymous,,,,,1505298600 141341113,141376190,2017-09-13 10:30:06,">>141375940 And states without income taxes were a big thing prior to the 20th century, real big. They were everywhere. How many exist today? I can use this argument too",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505298606 141341113,141376211,2017-09-13 10:30:25,">>141375406 >jeff tucker lmao so true",,Anonymous,,,,,1505298625 141341113,141376249,2017-09-13 10:30:53,">>141375721 communists need to be gassed honestly",,Anonymous,,,,,1505298653 141341113,141376345,2017-09-13 10:32:13,">>141375945 As long as it is voluntary, what's the problem? If someone wants to live in a commune, voluntarily have their property seized, why should that person be murdered?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505298733 141341113,141376401,2017-09-13 10:32:51,">>141341113 >property rights imply discrimination Yes, and the laws are set up in favor of this. You're allowed to discriminate on your property. >>141341113 >a return to traditional, conservative values. How do they do that? Libertarianism is about personal sovereignty. Disregarding another man's sovereign rule over his own body and land based on skin color, gender, or sexual orientation is completely anti-libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505298771 141341113,141376417,2017-09-13 10:33:03,">>141376155 this whole text assumes that every non libertarian is a progressive",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505298783 141341113,141376647,2017-09-13 10:36:12,">>141376417 It points out the truth that it is the state that is breeding degeneracy, not the lack of.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505298972 141341113,141376747,2017-09-13 10:37:16,">>141376401 Read about the civil Rights act bud, you couldn't be more wrong about discrimination rights in America.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505299036 141341113,141376890,2017-09-13 10:39:05,">>141375682 They will be banished from society and left to rot in civilisation's frontier - where libertarianism thrives and communism dies. And nobody will mourn them. If they, however, wish to impose their destructive, utterly false and downright twisted world-view on peaceful people, they deserve far worse than what the physical world is able to offer through punishment. The survivors and captives will find themselves suffering so much, they will wish they had died a swift death, just like their subjects would suffer and wish for their own death, too, should the communists seize power. That is the true meaning of Better Dead Than Red, and don't let me repeat myself again, you worthless vermin.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505299145 141341113,141377114,2017-09-13 10:41:49,">>141375866 The state enforcing morality is an idea so laughable it could not be taken seriously by anyone with at least half a brain. The single most corrupt, vile, immoral, and unethical institution CANNOT be the arbiter of what can or cannot be done. Ethics can only be enforced from a higher position, and there is no position more ethical than ours. There can be no tolerance for such a perversion of justice.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505299309 141341113,141377120,2017-09-13 10:41:52,">>141376183 If you just wanted to talk about killing communists, you didn't need to be a libertarian Why not talk about the problems of the state instead, and talk about effective examples of how to shrink the state? You know, like how occupational licensing laws are shrinking thanks to libertarians being a countervailing force to the people getting rich off of a state enforced monopoly.",,Anonymous,thinks.gif,81es2THmb0n1+JO655SJIw==,CA,,1505299312 141341113,141377129,2017-09-13 10:42:00,">>141376647 the progressive state yes. Libertarianism is progressive, only without/less state. The result will be the same. For the libertarian the is 1. The libertarian 2. The communist progressive. In reality the result is almost the same. Destruction of tradition, history, culture in return for materialistic and inividualistic short term desires",,Anonymous,Juan_Vasquez_de_Mella.jpg,ua9ep071pBYQFmJFiXWeaA==,NL,,1505299320 141341113,141377206,2017-09-13 10:43:16,">>141376401 >How do they do that? Libertarianism is about personal sovereignty. Disregarding another man's sovereign rule over his own body and land based on skin color, gender, or sexual orientation is completely anti-libertarian. You won't have to disregard anyone's sovereignty if you penetrate his mind with your ideals and values",,Anonymous,,,,,1505299396 141341113,141377242,2017-09-13 10:43:37,">>141376401 Traditional values are the only values left when people have to bear the costs of their mistakes. They are the manifestations of natural law being the main influence on human behaviour.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505299417 141341113,141377260,2017-09-13 10:43:53,">>141377120 Please explain why people who want to kill us and actively plot to kill us deserve to live? I can't wait until Libertarians take over Brazil and commies get flushed down the toilet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505299433 141341113,141377308,2017-09-13 10:44:36,">>141377129 The individual is every man on Earth. They are largely defined by their group belonging, though. I'll grant you that point - most people do not know most other people.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505299476 141341113,141377464,2017-09-13 10:46:29,">>141377129 We are not about progress, we accept man as he is. We accept natural law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505299589 141341113,141377486,2017-09-13 10:46:46,">>141377260 Proof?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505299606 141341113,141377492,2017-09-13 10:46:55,">>141377120 Killing communists is THE most effective way to shrink government long term.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505299615 141341113,141377546,2017-09-13 10:47:31,">>141377486 of what?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505299651 141341113,141377560,2017-09-13 10:47:44,">>141376890 >>141377114 >>141377464 individualism is a disregard for the moral standards built over thousands of yours so you be your own judge, absolve yourself of your own sins in the name of freedom",,Anonymous,1465885116830.jpg,v/LLiX7pcZsxU/R1ereOdA==,NL,,1505299664 141341113,141377572,2017-09-13 10:47:51,">>141377492 THIS",,Anonymous,,,,,1505299671 141341113,141377621,2017-09-13 10:48:40,>>141377486,,Anonymous,Commies (1).jpg,yL1qw3koHy3lpzfz0QPPhw==,US,,1505299720 141341113,141377752,2017-09-13 10:50:15,">>141377560 I don't care about ""muh individualism"" I care about property, and good above evil. I'm am for people collectivising as they wish.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505299815 141341113,141377882,2017-09-13 10:51:45,">>141377752 the collective is always stronger than the individual. So allowing collectivization is against your personal self interest",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505299905 141341113,141377998,2017-09-13 10:52:52,">>141377560 No, you will be made to bear the weight of your poor decisions, even ones that not even the biggest puritans would call ""sins"".",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505299972 141341113,141378010,2017-09-13 10:53:00,">>141377492 >>141377572 So surely after killing all those communists in Vietnam, it's a small stated libertarian nation, right? After all, between 966,000 and 3.8 million communists were killed. > Conflict between the two sides intensified in what is known as the Vietnam War, with heavy intervention by the United States on the side of South Vietnam from 1965 to 1973. The war ended with a North Vietnamese victory in 1975. Vietnam was then unified under a Marxist-Leninist government but remained impoverished and politically isolated. Oh",,Anonymous,Okabe.jpg,BxeeVRvWdUu9GdUDUYLZqg==,CA,,1505299980 141341113,141378031,2017-09-13 10:53:18,">>141341113 >falling for yet another kike intellectual movement that just so ""happens"" to enrich and empower jews the most out of any group Are you people retards? How many times are you going to fall for their bullshit new movements? If your lolbertarian societies happen their private banks will consolidate power.",,Anonymous,angelpainting.jpg,ch9MKwJ8BN/uoSAJ0chKvQ==,,,1505299998 141341113,141378070,2017-09-13 10:53:47,">>141378010 >After all, between 966,000 and 3.8 million communists were killed. That's IT? Not enough. More should have died.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505300027 141341113,141378107,2017-09-13 10:54:16,">>141377882 >always The people inside the Murrah Federal Building were not stronger than a single pissed off veteran.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505300056 141341113,141378147,2017-09-13 10:54:42,">>141378031 It empowers WHITES more than any other group you LOW IQ redneck piece of shit you are the untermensch",,Anonymous,,,,,1505300082 141341113,141378156,2017-09-13 10:54:52,">>141377621 Where's the proof they are actively plotting to kill libertarians? I see ""Free palestine"" and ""Stop Trump"", but nothing like ""Kill libertarians""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505300092 141341113,141378180,2017-09-13 10:55:12,">>141378010 If they had killed enough communists (and by enough I always mean all), they would have completely eliminated the possibility of the rise of communism.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505300112 141341113,141378186,2017-09-13 10:55:15,">>141378031 Yeah we empower Jews by wanting to abolish central banking, state capitalism, the ZOG and socialism. Lurk more pls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300115 141341113,141378216,2017-09-13 10:55:27,">>141378107 Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300127 141341113,141378224,2017-09-13 10:55:32,">>141378070 >It's not working >clearly the solution is to do more of it",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505300132 141341113,141378226,2017-09-13 10:55:36,">>141378031 Explain why whites dominated the USA during the free market period USA 1870s to 1890s when we had free market banking. Whites DOMINATED. The economy BOOMED. Jews later destroyed this system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505300136 141341113,141378242,2017-09-13 10:55:52,">>141341113 Point to one society based on your principles.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505300152 141341113,141378268,2017-09-13 10:56:10,">>141377882 Libertarians wouldn't exist in a vacuum. Paleolibertarianism is all about the empowerment of the individual so they can contribute to the covenants of like-minded individuals that they decide to make company with. Libertarianism != no governance, just no coercive governance. Paleolibertarianism also has a strong emphasis on traditional mindsets and self empowerment. This is all in contrast to leftist ideologies that either promote degeneracy and state dependence so they can be farmed as sheep, or leftist nationalist ideologies that promote self empowerment for the purpose of being used by the state (many times as soldiers).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300170 141341113,141378284,2017-09-13 10:56:25,">>141378031 No, the banks with their fiat currency will no longer be able to enforce their monopoly on exchange. Read Democracy - The God That Failed if you want to see who will gain power.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505300185 141341113,141378290,2017-09-13 10:56:30,">>141378156 You should talk to them under the assumption that you're a communist like them. You'll see they are explicitly violent particularly towards capitalists like us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300190 141341113,141378304,2017-09-13 10:56:39,">>141378224 it was working, we just needed to nuke the shit out of them, they are still communist and killing innocent people to this very day a blogger just got sent to prison for 20 years for speaking against the government we should have nuked the state capital",,Anonymous,,,,,1505300199 141341113,141378388,2017-09-13 10:57:31,">>141378242 USA 1870s to 1890s. Largest levels of economic growth, people came from all over the world, highest wages in the world, lowest cost of living. Why are leftists so butthurt over this?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505300251 141341113,141378389,2017-09-13 10:57:31,">>141378180 Okay. Where's your counterfactual? I am presenting evidence of a country where a large amount of communists were killed, and it became a communist state. Where is your counterfactual, where a country had communists killed, and the size of government shrank?",,Anonymous,question.png,L9NvLtOew8PbSvQvif0JOg==,CA,,1505300251 141341113,141378392,2017-09-13 10:57:34,">>141377998 in reality the people around you will bear the weight. Their children and their children. To the individualist there is nothing outside the span of their life, no responsibility.",,Anonymous,quote-jose-antonio-primo-de-rivera-stated-fascism-was-born-to-inspire-a-faith-not-of-the-right-jose-antonio-primo-de-rivera-73-19-09.jpg,yA5zPqajLV5i7SVTFEDfMQ==,NL,,1505300254 141341113,141378416,2017-09-13 10:57:49,">>141378147 Shut the fuck up you plebeian peasant filth. How dare you call me a redneck. Show some fucking respect you stupid fucking PR faggot pussy plebeian SLAVE. What's more is you wish to become even more of a little bitch. Think about it. When state loses power it's not like all that money the private banks have accumulated through sucking your blood just disappears. They can now directly rule you instead of indirectly via mercenary armies (US military).",,Anonymous,,,,,1505300269 141341113,141378437,2017-09-13 10:58:08,">>141378010 No dipshit, we need to kill the communists in our countries first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300288 141341113,141378518,2017-09-13 10:59:00,">>141378304 see >>141378389",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505300340 141341113,141378545,2017-09-13 10:59:23,">>141378389 Kill the commies in our government, not elsewhere. I don't give a shit about a bunch of dumb rice Farmers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300363 141341113,141378586,2017-09-13 10:59:51,">>141378388 >USA 1870s to 1890s So you're saying that your society can only exist for a short period of time before the state grows? So you're saying capitalism can't exist without a powerful state? You're worse than the commie cucks in denying that your ideology doesn't correspond to human nature.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505300391 141341113,141378604,2017-09-13 11:00:00,">>141378388 Because this thread is under attack by buttblasted leftists and shills We scare (((them))) by removing ourselves from the systems they've poisoned",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300400 141341113,141378605,2017-09-13 11:00:00,">>141378389 Without communists, there is no communism. That's not so hard to grasp, is it? Anyway, Chile.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505300400 141341113,141378606,2017-09-13 11:00:01,">>141378226 True, but it's axiomatic that free markets lead back to plutocracy. Free market system has consistent winners-> because low regulation evil people can make profit easier over time-> evil people gain power (jews)-> start buying out politicians-> politicians increase state control with new ever encroaching laws on the largely free market non interventionist society you have-> push just enough to make you protest but just lightly enough so that you don't kill them-> plutocracy repeats over time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505300401 141341113,141378675,2017-09-13 11:00:43,">>141378416 >Shut the fuck up you plebeian peasant filth. How dare you call me a redneck. Because you are a stupid enough to be a communist yet intelligent enough to be a white nationalist. Funny how that works. >Show some fucking respect you stupid fucking PR faggot pussy plebeian SLAVE. But you literally want the state and corporations to enslave you. >When state loses power it's not like all that money the private banks have accumulated through sucking your blood just disappears. Exactly. The value of all other money in the economy(including my savings and my wages) increases because the state is no longer wasting resources, and there are now people SAVING MONEY. >They can now directly rule you They are ruling my by increasing my living standards far more than any state would? lmao Commies are fucking retarded and want to be poor. Money does not equal resources you religious fundamentalist. This is the ultimate redpill. I can't believe people don't understand this fact.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505300443 141341113,141378819,2017-09-13 11:02:41,">>141378606 So kick out the Jews. Create a white only property community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300561 141341113,141378880,2017-09-13 11:03:25,">>141378392 If your action means that the others around you bear the weight of your decisions, you will be punished. The individualists still have a family, they still have people they consider their own, and they carry their responsibility because they know nobody will lift the burden from them. >pic related Centrists get the bullet too. Either you're Right, or you're dead wrong.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505300605 141341113,141378919,2017-09-13 11:03:57,">>141378416 >statist calling anybody else a slave Have you read SIEGE?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505300637 141341113,141378957,2017-09-13 11:04:24,">>141378675 >communist Kike subversion. We hate communists. >But you literally want the state and corporations to enslave you. Absolutely not, National Socialism makes state race. Everyone is dealed in, we operate as one unified people working to better ourselves together, there is no adversarial state/citizen relationship. The Fuhrer has absolute control over corporations which misbehave. He can kill anyone who defies the health, wealth, or spiritual well being of the volk (see 25th tenet of the 25 points of ndsap) >They are ruling my by increasing my living standards far more than any state would? It would cause corporate feudalism. Why do you think kikes are largely the purveyors of this ideology? Rand, Rothbard etc. This is their new marxism and you are falling for it. Sure it's ideologically very different from state marxism, but the effect will be similar: jews controlling you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505300664 141341113,141379018,2017-09-13 11:05:16,">>141378880 you arent right, your are left. Im neither",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505300716 141341113,141379079,2017-09-13 11:05:58,">>141378545 Okay. Sweet. There are 7,383 state legislators, 100 senators, 435 legislators in the House of Representatives. How many of these are members of the communist party?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505300758 141341113,141379124,2017-09-13 11:06:29,">>141379079 I'd say more than half.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300789 141341113,141379130,2017-09-13 11:06:31,">>141378919 You're a slave to an employer that pays you wages that make him richer at the expense of your society. The employer and employee relationship is pure cuckery, you're being paid a pittance relative to what the owner gets while yoir country gets fucked. You even thank them for the opportunity. Cuck.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505300791 141341113,141379142,2017-09-13 11:06:40,">>141378437 If it didn't work there, why would it work here?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505300800 141341113,141379146,2017-09-13 11:06:43,">>141378919 You don't understand. In National Socialism state = race. Pic related. We are not in conflict with state, we deal everyone in and everyone works together.",,Anonymous,capvrsnatsoc.png,DhvmeqJKCgxy+gH2k8rKcg==,,,1505300803 141341113,141379195,2017-09-13 11:07:27,">>141379124 Source?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505300847 141341113,141379232,2017-09-13 11:08:01,">>141379142 Because Vietnam wasn't about fighting communism, it was about destroying patriotism in the generation of the sixties.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300881 141341113,141379352,2017-09-13 11:09:33,">>141379195 I'm the source. Look at that, if we kill more than half of our state representatives we've directly shrunk the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505300973 141341113,141379392,2017-09-13 11:10:00,">>141379130 If it's such a bad relationship, why wouldn't I just quit? Nobody is forcing me to work for that employer. If it's so easy as an employer to make piles of money, why wouldn't I just get loans from a bank and start a business of my own?",,Anonymous,KAIJI.png,7w9NNnRKZA6sSaTaYnOXdw==,CA,,1505301000 141341113,141379692,2017-09-13 11:13:25,">>141379392 Because there's no other option for the majority of the population. There's also a limited amount of businesses that can succeed or become profitable. Most people can't get loans large enough to start a proper business with excess capital. Most sectors of the economy are out beyond any person, the capital requirements are too high. You're just playing cutesy little word games here. There's literally hundreds of reasons your little word games omit. Check your autism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505301205 141341113,141379777,2017-09-13 11:14:35,">>141379352 Here's my source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA Communist Party of the United States has no elected state or federal legislatures > if we kill more than half of our state representatives we've directly shrunk the state. No? Because of Special Elections, they would be newly appointed representatives to fill in the seats of the members who died.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505301275 141341113,141379897,2017-09-13 11:15:50,">>141379232 You can argue what it was about, but the direct result was 988,000-3.8 million communists dead. And then the government became communist. If killing communists shrinks the size of state, why didn't that happen in Vietnam",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505301350 141341113,141379947,2017-09-13 11:16:30,">>141379777 You dumbass, that's because it's illegal to form a proper ""communist party"" in the USA. the real communists run Democrat, and even Republican to an extent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505301390 141341113,141380086,2017-09-13 11:18:04,">>141379897 Because the zog wanted to build anti-american sentiment among the youth. What better way than to send them to a war and make them loose it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505301484 141341113,141380150,2017-09-13 11:18:36,">>141379392 Your entire worldview is based on a false premise, the idea that free will in its greatest sense exists. That is why libercucks always resort to faggy word games like ""why don't you just choose x over y"". Free will doesn't exist, at least not in the sense imagined by your ideology. Start resding some neurology and neuroscience instead of wasting your time with pseudoscientific Jewish ideologies that are anti-white and European.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505301516 141341113,141380390,2017-09-13 11:21:18,">>141380150 Natural laws are descriptive, not commands. Your neurology bit doesn't disprove choice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505301678 141341113,141380491,2017-09-13 11:22:34,People that defend the state and think the state are gods are the ULTIMATE KEKS,,Anonymous,,,,,1505301754 141341113,141380497,2017-09-13 11:22:42,">>141379947 If it's illegal, why is there a communist party that exists? What do you mean by ""proper""? There's an existing party. Also, please show a proposed republican or democratic bill, in a state or federal legislature that proposed seizing all private property. If there was communists running as democrats are republicans, surely they'd have proposed this by now. That's the central thing to communists, so if they were a communist they would attempt to pass that as a law.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505301762 141341113,141380571,2017-09-13 11:23:41,">>141380086 You're not answering the question at all. Again If killing communists shrinks the size of state, why didn't that happen in Vietnam?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505301821 141404561,141404561,2017-09-13 15:34:24,"NOTHING TO THE RIGHT OF FASCISTS BUT THE WALL, AND WE'RE THE FUCKING BRICKS! >Brought to you by Slovakbro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists serious about ending the state and not just smoking weed, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists, anti-communist militants like ya boy Oscar Perez. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Locke, Smith, the Founding Fathers, Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Thomas Sowell, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us. >SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A >FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org >DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /Kd2WD2X",/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - DECIVILISATION EDITION,Anonymous,hoppe-senpai.jpg,xPYHlnJ8Byb5vByoB1jjBA==,SK,,1505316864 141404561,141404617,2017-09-13 15:34:54,">>141404561 FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The rightful owners of public property (including borders) are the victims of taxation. Therefore nobody can benefit from that land save for them. Eventually this issue would be solved by full privatisation, but that's still far in the future. Also we don't like brown people. >(((Capitalism))) Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >What about roads? Since companies need infrastructure to transport their goods to reach people who in turn need infrastructure for their own needs, this system of mutual dependence is the incentive for any faggot with a steamrol-nah I'm just fucking with you. (((Roads))) are the asphalt Jew that limits evaporation from the soil and gives kids autism. We take helicopters everywhere we go. >LOLBERGTARDIANS R DEGENERATE Degeneracy is a symptom of r-selected individuals within a K-selected society. Just kick them out, their high time preference and negative externalities caused by their presence and behaviour are a good enough reason for their physical removal. No trap harems for you. >What about usury? Banking marketed to ordinary folk was a mistake, so much so that even (((Rothbard))) disapproves of it. End the FED, price war now.",,Anonymous,lrg vs that one shitposter.png,13GT4DAU1XZfCZSfywoeSg==,SK,,1505316894 141404561,141404916,2017-09-13 15:37:45,"RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,cantwellwave.jpg,wYTVDSFZ+CxDFZ2B8SPIsg==,SK,,1505317065 141404561,141404964,2017-09-13 15:38:06,"MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts >youtube.com/user/Morrakiu - youtube.com/channel/UCqAIvs0vAb71x_ZO10HArhA - http://morrakiu.com/ - Morrakiu of TRS and Radical Agenda INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell BANTZ TIER >Jared Howe's faceberg account Fuck Cato. Open borders for Israel.",,Anonymous,hoppe white people.jpg,oODt2L5Psj5PFgc04lpqfg==,SK,,1505317086 141404561,141405033,2017-09-13 15:38:49,">>141404561 >NOTHING TO THE RIGHT OF FASCISTS BUT THE WALL, AND WE'RE THE FUCKING BRICKS! so your admitting your our lapdogs?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505317129 141404561,141405058,2017-09-13 15:39:04,"ARTICLES: >Murray Rothbard - Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0 >Murray Rothbard - Race! That Murray Book - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Murray Rothbard - Nations by Consent - mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Jeff Deist - For A New Libertarian - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - A Realistic Libertarianism - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ >Llewellyn Rockwell - Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property - mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property",,Anonymous,commie manifesto.jpg,gwuWivJVfVlkxMyyoW+6Bg==,SK,,1505317144 141404561,141405181,2017-09-13 15:40:21,">>141405033 I think we need to clarify what's right-wing and what isn't.",,Anonymous,download.png,3IxXLiJz8ZS9RsoyISMXKg==,,,1505317221 141404561,141405229,2017-09-13 15:40:48,">>141405033 No, I'm admitting to be to the right of you in terms of politics. The idea of the political ""third position"" is evidence enough that National Socialism and Fascism are mere artificial parodies of the natural order and not properly right-wing. I'm sure the Fascist guy who hangs around this thread could tell you more.",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1505317248 141404561,141405262,2017-09-13 15:41:08,Why are libertarians so weird like that guy with the boot on his head and the woman who wanted dobby to be a mascot.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505317268 141404561,141405342,2017-09-13 15:41:57,"VIDEOS/PODCASTS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=-Yv9JZiaFUg >Christopher Cantwell with Wife with a Purpose - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/12/radical-agenda-ep300-dear-momma/ >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/17/radical-agenda-ep302-mike-enoch/ >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/19/radical-agenda-ep303-articulate-black-guy/ >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/24/radical-agenda-ep306-jared-howe/ >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 >Jeff Deist - For a New Libertarian (speech) - youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc",,Anonymous,libertarianism fixed.jpg,pmEo7ejau7IanmYAsU26Hw==,SK,,1505317317 141404561,141405434,2017-09-13 15:42:49,">>141405262 The Libertarian Party has been infiltrated by leftists who think North Korea and ISIS are paragons of libertarianism. They're clueless faggots and must be eschewed as such.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505317369 141404561,141405490,2017-09-13 15:43:17,">>141405262 Was that Vermin Supreme guy a libertarian? Sounded more like a Bernie-bot to me.",,Anonymous,hoppe ancapwave.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,SK,,1505317397 141404561,141405528,2017-09-13 15:43:38,"MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=ecVvLqSJCK8 >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=Vz_CagU5wjY >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo >Morrakiu - Agreeing with the Liberals for All the Wrong Reasons - youtube.com/watch?v=eASnXIubJEE >LE NEGRO ANARCHIST - MARCHING SONGS FOR MERCENARIES OF ALL ENTERPRISING MEN OF THE WORLD - anarchyinblack.tumblr.com/post/160501747153/radio-ancapistan-marching-songs-for-the-child",,Anonymous,bane questions nap.jpg,lRo8KsG7ghB11vqHABBdOw==,SK,,1505317418 141404561,141405532,2017-09-13 15:43:39,,,Anonymous,nyaa.jpg,KL+lQz+scBg0rrVh3qpQdg==,,,1505317419 141404561,141405727,2017-09-13 15:45:31,">>141405434 Whoa there, fash. Surely you mean conservatives? Libertarianism isn't right or left wing, and we don't see colour, that's why we party members and Tuckerites like to whore ourselves out for communists and niggers, hehe! G*d, the Mises Institute and Hans-Hermann Hoppe are such statists! Wouldn't you agree?",,Anonymous,ron paul nap.jpg,19FJjqRHaqREZx9CAci+HA==,SK,,1505317531 141404561,141405800,2017-09-13 15:46:14,"MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU",,Anonymous,paleo crew squat version.png,jE6E/ObJMtIfCOXg9AY+9g==,SK,,1505317574 141404561,141405870,2017-09-13 15:46:58,">>141405727 If you hadn't already posted the Cantwell quote, I'd have responded with that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505317618 141404561,141405933,2017-09-13 15:47:34,">>141405490 On March 4, 2016, he switched his affiliation to the Libertarian Party, claiming his rightful position as Sage and Oracle for Libertarians throughout America, and possibly Belize as well.[43] He received the vote of a single delegate in the first round of presidential nomination voting at the 2016 Libertarian National Convention. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermin_Supreme He is one for now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505317654 141404561,141405985,2017-09-13 15:48:09,"We’ve seen terrorism, race riots, false flags, and now shots fired. We’re not going to sit here and watch you topple an elected president, waiting to see what Democrats prefer to democracy. We will smash, stab, shoot, and bomb you in a manner that will make the Islamic State look civilized by comparison. We will slaughter your males, rape your women, and leave your children in the company of the pedophiles you set free on our streets. If anyone is going to impose an unelected government in North America, it’s going to be us, and the only thing we’re going to be more liberal with is the death penalty. - Christopher Cantwell",,Anonymous,peak performance.jpg,gIBWtPbU3RzUknHY8wkOpg==,SK,,1505317689 141404561,141406074,2017-09-13 15:49:00,,,Anonymous,1503433982581.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,DE,,1505317740 141404561,141406125,2017-09-13 15:49:23,,,Anonymous,150343398258.jpg,wp4pT94UR1yzUKUadEFIRg==,DE,,1505317763 141404561,141406180,2017-09-13 15:49:57,">>141405933 >Libertarian Party >libertarians Anyone who denounces Timothy McVeigh without practicing white taqiyya to further his politically extremist goals is a cuck and not to be trusted.",,Anonymous,agorism.jpg,GmalMlcv2ZToWjpBLUmZyA==,SK,,1505317797 141404561,141406224,2017-09-13 15:50:22,"One obese Latina at a protest in California shouted ""We can't just do rallies. We have to fight back. There will be casualties on both sides!"" Well, if leftists want private sector violence, if they want casualties, I'm all for it! I consent. I will meet you on the battlefield you worthless pig! You think there will be casualties on both sides? Perhaps, but I'll make certain you're on the heavy side of that scale young lady, though you're probably used to that by now, aren't you? Name the time and place, bring whatever weaponry you can muster, I'll do the same, and for every man I bring, you can bring two men, and two women, and even one non binary person just to make things comfortable for everyone alright? And with 5-1 odds we will mop the floor with you and use your bodies as mortar for our big, beautiful wall. - Christopher Cantwell",,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,SK,,1505317822 141404561,141406226,2017-09-13 15:50:24,">>141405727 Those darn conservatives!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505317824 141404561,141406259,2017-09-13 15:50:51,,,Anonymous,Liechtenstein.jpg,UIymMZLhHs9RdXNgyhCLpQ==,,,1505317851 141404561,141406279,2017-09-13 15:51:03,"People say violence isn't the answer, but I don't think they really understand the issue. These people want to fight us, and if we don't fight them, then we lose that fight. Whether you like it or not, there is violence. Violence is the question that was asked, your enemy has just answered yes, and that means that you do not get a vote. Your only choice now, is whether you win or lose the fight. So what's it going to be? - Christopher Cantwell",,Anonymous,cantwell's capacity for violence illustrated.webm,72dN/LmAyYCasRdh4Nd1RA==,SK,,1505317863 141404561,141406373,2017-09-13 15:51:52,>tfw your ideology doesn't exist irl,,Anonymous,1505034453013.jpg,lMVGD0l9pVC/GhdEdDXY5Q==,,,1505317912 141404561,141406445,2017-09-13 15:52:35,">>141406259 nibba get a more HQ background and have outlines on your text for God's sake",,Anonymous,lrg not sending their best.jpg,L9nH9Us/mXUHn7Vqnv3kQA==,SK,,1505317955 141404561,141406583,2017-09-13 15:53:56,old cantwell is best cantwell,,Anonymous,lrg private defense cantwell rudkowski.jpg,4fbLm4+pERUBM9b6OLAIrg==,SK,,1505318036 141404561,141406593,2017-09-13 15:54:01,,,Anonymous,1504132663960.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1505318041 141404561,141406644,2017-09-13 15:54:28,,,Anonymous,1504132663961.png,T8Fu9b39NuW1a2bnJPzpKw==,US,,1505318068 141404561,141406710,2017-09-13 15:55:09,FREE CANTWELL,,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,US,,1505318109 141404561,141406730,2017-09-13 15:55:21,">>141406373 /ourguy/?",,Anonymous,file.png,MWdGwy6BDDsvlE2QqcWINA==,GB,,1505318121 141404561,141406759,2017-09-13 15:55:39,,,Anonymous,shieett.jpg,wplbs7KRAurFrEuJGTbntw==,US,,1505318139 141404561,141406835,2017-09-13 15:56:25,,,Anonymous,A_0.jpg,5Ulz3I1kAEBEbDp4wdkuJg==,US,,1505318185 141404561,141406899,2017-09-13 15:56:57,,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1505318217 141404561,141406927,2017-09-13 15:57:12,"Would civic nationalism work if the society is properly educated and the children weren't educated by communist teachers? Would removal of communist teachers be the first goal of a right libertarian society that focuses on the individual who bring prosperity and good morals to it? Basically why aren't we dropping communist teachers and reworking are educational institutions?",,Anonymous,1494241787669.jpg,UnlPDCdX1/AwjbOMEzHW5A==,,,1505318232 141404561,141406959,2017-09-13 15:57:34,"Oh, and for that commie LARPing as a NatSoc, google the Property and Freedom Society. That's an openly anarcho-capitalist white nationalist group run by Hans-Hermann Hoppe himself.",,Anonymous,lrg day of the locker.jpg,s0gPIFJ4FOcqKuS7ASE/Gg==,SK,,1505318254 141404561,141407121,2017-09-13 15:59:02,">>141406927 I'd prefer real nationalism either way, kick those commie teachers to the gutters where they belong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505318342 141404561,141407245,2017-09-13 16:00:08,">>141406927 Too bad dropping communist teachers out of helicopters is illegal. Largely, I think most societies would be racially, as well as culturally homogeneous in a natural order.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505318408 141404561,141407833,2017-09-13 16:06:02,">>141407121 >Nationalism As a fellow Murican it would best to avoid such branding due to the Nazicucks ruining everything as usual. Use the word Patriot instead. A Patriot isn't someone who blindly believes there country is the best. A Patriot believes that their country, with all it's issues and downfalls, is as best as it can get and that they actively work towards methods to fixing such issues. >>141407245 >is illegal Figuratively I meant. >Largely, I think most societies would be racially, as well as culturally homogeneous in a natural order. This is actually something that happens by de facto already is something that can't be claimed as racist unless you have heavy government intervention that forces a near perfect mix of races. In large cities there is already areas where races gain a majority in that area. Such as China Town, Little Mexico, etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505318762 141404561,141408146,2017-09-13 16:09:16,">>141407833 I don't give a shit if people call me a Nazi. I'm a Nationalist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505318956 141404561,141408504,2017-09-13 16:12:50,"Appreciate the effort, Slovakbro >bump",,Anonymous,873264872634.png,VWGI+JQZlnflzrCBklBizQ==,,,1505319170 141404561,141408765,2017-09-13 16:15:17,,,Anonymous,1484522911043.png,OiwRKqhdVR+ihcs+ybT8Pw==,US,,1505319317 141404561,141408833,2017-09-13 16:15:53,,,Anonymous,hoppe_.png,urrdlrmv0PcKNs6dBBRYfQ==,US,,1505319353 141404561,141409003,2017-09-13 16:17:33,">>141408146 >Choosing to have your beliefs die because of the (((Nazi))).",,Anonymous,1478243516185.png,u+cO6dFbbXcEMGIsJWDEWw==,,,1505319453 141404561,141409155,2017-09-13 16:19:01,">>141406373 >commies voted more for trump",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505319541 141404561,141409438,2017-09-13 16:21:40,">>141409003 My beliefs aren't dying. Nationalism is part of the natural order and will arise even after we get nuked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505319700 141404561,141409466,2017-09-13 16:21:55,">>141407833 >As a fellow Murican it would best to avoid such branding due to the Nazicucks ruining everything as usual. Use the word Patriot instead. A Patriot isn't someone who blindly believes there country is the best. A Patriot believes that their country, with all it's issues and downfalls, is as best as it can get and that they actively work towards methods to fixing such issues. As I see it, a patriot loves his country like he loves his parents. He admits it can be wrong, he doesn't want to subjugate other countries to it for the fun of it, and he doesn't pretend that him and everyone in it are one big family. Instead, he loves his country because it's his home and the place where he grew up. Patriots are the real sneks, they play nice and do no harm until you step on them, and when you do, they bite worse than any nationalist. It's possible to tell a nationalist in a conquered country that he must change his way of life for the good of his nation, but you can't pull that with a patriot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505319715 141404561,141409714,2017-09-13 16:24:15,">>141409438 >It will come back after the nuclear holocaust >Not extreme Anarchic Capitalist state >>141409466 Thank you for putting it in such beautiful way. Check'd",,Anonymous,1493820038963.gif,mwRu4G3egJVNl5zG7KoXCw==,,,1505319855 141404561,141409733,2017-09-13 16:24:26,">>141409003 Communists will call you a Nazi regardless. You don't have to become a Nazi, but compromising on your stance is cuckery.",,Anonymous,leftypol.jpg,V/FP1TQXrqX2N7hmtTCqjg==,SK,,1505319866 141404561,141409926,2017-09-13 16:26:24,">>141406445 I'm trying my best, my man. I don't have any proper graphic design software so my tools are limited. Would it be better if I redid that like the Cantwell on?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505319984 141404561,141412048,2017-09-13 16:47:20,,,Anonymous,1500462358100.png,LEHpEHfrb+kvdPz4h3D3RQ==,US,,1505321240 141404561,141412523,2017-09-13 16:51:44,">>141412048 This is the most retarded image ever, you understand neither anarcho capitalism or national socialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505321504 141404561,141412831,2017-09-13 16:54:33,">>141406373 What a bullshit interpretation of the chart. The vertical scale is not the scale of authoritarianism, but the scale of ""social acceptance"" (i.e. if you like trannies, shitskins etc). So yeah, right-wing libertarians are pretty much in the red cloud.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505321673 141404561,141412915,2017-09-13 16:55:20,">>141412831 I agree. Political charts are all kinds of fucked up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505321720 141404561,141413211,2017-09-13 16:58:24,">>141412048 Funniest thing is that germany took massive loans to employ everyone and build their factories. Considering their belief of the international jewish bank system they literally jewed themselves by loaning from jews to exterminate jews. Do you see why they failed?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1505321904 141404561,141413370,2017-09-13 17:00:09,">>141409714 You're welcome! >>141409733 Check'd. No matter how often I see it, I just can't get used to how true the stereotypes are. Says quite a lot about an ideology if only degenerates embrace it. >>141412048 >mixed markets Aww shit nigger you didn't How come natsocs always try to be as radical as they can, but when it comes to economics, they suddenly embrace middle-of-the-road bullshit?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505322009 141404561,141414314,2017-09-13 17:10:14,">>141413370 >comes to economics, they suddenly embrace middle-of-the-road bullshit? They're purple pilled as fuck. I don't understand how you could be smart enough to embrace nationalism, but too dumb to erradicate the economic Jew ie; socialism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505322614 141404561,141415111,2017-09-13 17:17:29,">>141412048 Why would you even try to put mixed markets and economic prosperity in the same place? Let alone interest free loans... You are away Corporatism is an economic plan where the state is unified with the largest corporations, quite literally the nazi economic plan? And why on earth is 'never ending NAP violations' not on the side that completely rejects the NAP? That's really just the most obvious contradictions, seems like you have some 'self-refuting memes' yourself. 9/10 made me reply",,Anonymous,roads.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,GB,,1505323049 141404561,141415819,2017-09-13 17:24:06,,,Anonymous,RR (1).png,nDQnAEKfvcs23XB8Dk8iOQ==,,,1505323446 141404561,141415852,2017-09-13 17:24:29,">>141412048 >interest-free loans if you can't be assed to reward a person for lending you money, you don't deserve their service either way",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505323469 141404561,141416058,2017-09-13 17:26:45,Is Hoppean Snake Memes dead?,,Anonymous,snek (2).png,HSRhqXOosdCV80w46sJgZQ==,,,1505323605 141404561,141416383,2017-09-13 17:30:13,,,Anonymous,21317678_10105001964305460_784983642765313980_n.jpg,E4ZqTMpFYxjLBl2wjU6OvA==,,,1505323813 141404561,141416529,2017-09-13 17:31:46,">>141404561 >muh open borders",,Anonymous,openborders.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1505323906 141404561,141416628,2017-09-13 17:32:49,>>141412048,,Anonymous,hitler-socialism.png,RTfZ7dUacCCECgnIEVwbZA==,,,1505323969 141404561,141416728,2017-09-13 17:33:54,>>141416628,,Anonymous,hitler-socialism2.png,H76T6OitF3M9ZqP/3Or1jw==,,,1505324034 141404561,141416745,2017-09-13 17:34:04,">>141405181 NatSoc is middle top, Strasserism/NatBol is where NatSoc is at.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505324044 141404561,141416755,2017-09-13 17:34:12,>>141416728,,Anonymous,hitler-socialism3.png,KDI2+CLlBVbyjj0XlYPt7g==,,,1505324052 141404561,141416820,2017-09-13 17:34:55,">>141416745 natsoc is leftism. kys. see >>141416628 >>141416728 >>141416755 from your chairman's mouth",,Anonymous,,,,,1505324095 141404561,141416864,2017-09-13 17:35:23,">>141404561 the jew thrives in a libertarian environment",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505324123 141404561,141417000,2017-09-13 17:36:46,">>141416864 the collectivist thrives on misery. kys.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505324206 141404561,141417038,2017-09-13 17:37:07,">>141416820 Wow, those unsourced quotes that ignore that they didn't mean Marxist socialism sure convinced me, Anon! You are all intellectually dishonest.",,Anonymous,Socialist Part.png,QvkBSZMQJo6HcwsZU5fnBw==,,,1505324227 141404561,141417046,2017-09-13 17:37:12,">>141416864 The jew thrives in a libertine enviorment. which a libertarian enviorment is not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505324232 141404561,141417242,2017-09-13 17:39:14,">le roads thread Take your cuck thread to /int/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505324354 141404561,141417323,2017-09-13 17:40:07,">>141417038 >not real socialism: the post you lefties are all the same. copter ride for you, commie.",,Anonymous,removeparasites.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,,,1505324407 141404561,141417345,2017-09-13 17:40:23,">>141417038 muh NatSoc isn't socialist because hitler isn't a classical marxist. he's more of a tank desu, embrace it faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1505324423 141404561,141417550,2017-09-13 17:42:20,">>141409466 What about when his parents stab him in the back again and again and again, destroying his future, his present and his dream of the past",,Anonymous,youth.jpg,89uh6jb0iCRcyrqtEuqRzA==,US,,1505324540 141404561,141417626,2017-09-13 17:43:09,">>141417323 >ignoring the content of my post Intellectually dishonest, yet again. pic related for the helicopter meme >>141417345 >muh NatSoc isn't socialist because hitler isn't a classical marxist. Correct. Night of the Long Knives happened for a reason you fucking idiot.",,Anonymous,Libertarians and Ancaps ready to be overrun by commies.png,AfFnxojqSU9GEIesYEujjg==,,,1505324589 141404561,141417783,2017-09-13 17:44:45,">>141417626 >that pic spanish poster was a cuckboi. I knew him. I am for killing marxists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505324685 141404561,141418250,2017-09-13 17:49:32,">>141417626 whatever, muh ""third position"" is also bluepilled as fuck, but generally speaking, natsoc is modern socialism.",,Anonymous,Master_Race.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,,,1505324972 141404561,141418281,2017-09-13 17:49:47,">>141417626 >>ignoring the content of my post not at all. it seems more like you didn't read the first 2 paragraphs of your picrelated >you must help your comrade in need and work together ... for the betterment of the nation and the state so you MUST help poor people who are in need. also the products of your work are not yours to keep but are used for the STATE so what we have here is a big government welfare state with coercive means to finance the whole thing this is text book leftism. and it doesn't matter that ""but it wasn't real socialism"" or whatever cheap excuses you come up with. if it quacks like a duck it's probably a commie and deserves a copter ride now get out ... I'm sure you stormfag nazilarpers have some shitty natsoc general thread where you discuss the left without realizing that you are leftists yourself",,Anonymous,commies_r_not_human.jpg,GzkyHfOJMVeTHwIY1IfA9A==,,,1505324987 141404561,141419048,2017-09-13 17:57:27,">>141417783 >I am for killing marxists. Most Libertarians and AnCaps are not. Most also believe in the Civic Nationalism meme, and are constitutionalists. Your entire ideology is controlled opposition. Even if you form a Libertarian or AnCap county, you at best just revert America to the way it used to be, ripe for another take over. AnCaps and Libertarians will never gain power or form a state because they can't agree on social matters and you need a group to fight another group. Too much individualism makes you weak in this way. >so you MUST help poor people who are in need. also the products of your work are not yours to keep but are used for the STATE Correct, except the products of your work are still yours. We don't redistribute property, only make people chip in a little. It doesn't matter if you have to give a little if the quality of life is so good that you can spare it. That's the ""covenant"" you make by living in this society, except it's actually enforceable, unlike in AnCap. >so what we have here is a big government welfare state with coercive means to finance the whole thing You need to realize that there can be good government, and bad government, similar to how there can be good companies and bad companies. The goal of NatSoc is to use gov. only when necessary to make sure the free market is actually free and not rigged. It also wishes to instate a bare minimum for things like moral standards so people aren't shooting each other, stealing from each other, conning each other, etc.",,Anonymous,Libertarian Problems.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,,,1505325447 141404561,141419164,2017-09-13 17:58:28,">>141418281 >>141419048 Part of this is for you, not that you'll read it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505325508 141404561,141419918,2017-09-13 18:05:40,">>141419048 >Most Libertarians and AnCaps are not. Most ancaps who think that killing leftists is immoral never thought about it really. No matter how you look at it - the logical conclusion is always that killing leftists is moral and justified. Even necessary to protect liberty. But then again ... rigid reasoning doesn't seem to resonate well with most people. >it's not socialism even though we act like socialists yeah sorry, theft is immoral. doesn't matter if it's ""just a little theft"". your original picrelated even states that >natsoc is socialism within the national frame so ... you post ""proof"" that explicitly states it is socialism to prove that it isn't socialism? >there can be good government yeah, we only have like what ... 5000 years of recorded history that proves that it's mostly not good and a rather shitty deal for everyone involved. but hey ... if you try it it will be different. (just like all those lefties who babble about not real socialism because if they tried it would totally work this time) and if you really believed in the covenant model you would have pissed off a long time ago. you are not welcome here, commie",,Anonymous,ghandi-altruism.png,Au4INZ55i2yyuIrKcDSwEA==,,,1505325940 141404561,141419943,2017-09-13 18:05:55,">>141419048 Most """"""(((libertarians)))"""""" are a bunch of faggots, controlled opposition, or confused communists. agreed. all I can say is that we're a special breed here at /lrg/ and you'll have to take my word for it or fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505325955 141404561,141420762,2017-09-13 18:13:32,">>141419918 >it's mostly not good kek, it's been mostly good. Things like the Soviet Union were a rarity, meanwhile, all AnCap and Libertarian societies have been conquered or subverted. >Most ancaps who think that killing leftists is immoral never thought about it really. The point is, even people in your own movement can't even agree on your own rhetoric or BASIC policies. That's never, ever, a good sign for the stability of a movement. >yeah sorry, theft is immoral. doesn't matter if it's ""just a little theft"". your original picrelated even states that It's not theft. You agree to chip in by living in the NatSoc society. If you don't like it, get >>>/out/ >so ... you post ""proof"" that explicitly states it is socialism to prove that it isn't socialism? You are completely misinterpreting what it says. It's saying the way Hitler refered to Socialism is completely different than what the Marxist definition is, and what you are thinking of.",,Anonymous,NatSoc def of Socialism.jpg,5mHlYCqCDKaxVgmKTCNzdQ==,,,1505326412 141404561,141421263,2017-09-13 18:18:26,">>141419943 >Most """"""(((libertarians)))"""""" are a bunch of faggots, controlled opposition, or confused communists. agreed. That's the thing. AnCap and Libertarianism can only work if EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the society thinks exactly the same way. It even just ignores problems like if children are free to have their own NAP. Like, how can they ""consent"" to being born or living in your AnCap community? Would they be kicked out, or would they have to listen to their parents if they don't agree with shit? AnCap doesn't work economically or socially. It's kind of like Communism how you just expect people to get along and be rational and moral for literally no reason.",,Anonymous,Libertarians.png,xZRxt3TOdF4lJeCxS6ej4g==,,,1505326706 141404561,141421852,2017-09-13 18:24:02,">>141421263 >free to have their own NAP No, you either respect property rights or you don't. If you don't you're helicopter bait. >expect people to get along and be rational and moral for literally no reason. Our particular brand of anarchy has nothing to do with lawlessness or chaos, we want to enforce property rights. if you don't respect property you have to be removed. you're a threat to civilized society.",,Anonymous,1498071159275.png,hkilyxdDI6suWDimCn7vZg==,,,1505327042 141404561,141421855,2017-09-13 18:24:02,">>141419048 >>141420762 >>141421263 >Really thinks all Libertarians are like that. >Believing in the most cucked ideology before communism. kys",,Anonymous,1480745379894.jpg,aTQ5CGlYKkvYCN1MIjZERg==,,,1505327042 141404561,141422652,2017-09-13 18:31:27,">>141421852 >No, you either respect property rights or you don't. If you don't you're helicopter bait. There is a difference between respecting the concept, and worshiping the concept, believing that it can do no wrong. If a kid is vandalizing shit, you take his property to make him stop. Throwing him out of a helicopter isn't the right answer. >Our particular brand of anarchy has nothing to do with lawlessness or chaos, we want to enforce property rights. if you don't respect property you have to be removed. you're a threat to civilized society. Property rights are not the only thing in the world, anon. You have to deal with outside threats, keep communities happy, and be moral. Libertarians failed to do this in the 19th and 20th century, and that led to the massive amount of Marxists both then and now. >>141421855 Oh boy, more fallacies. It's a language only Libertarians and Communists speak apparently. You haven't given me reason to believe otherwise. In fact, according to this anon >>141419943 I was right on the money that most Libertarians don't agree with you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505327487 141404561,141423344,2017-09-13 18:37:49,">>141422652 >If a kid is vandalizing shit he is violating someone elses property. I say we at least lock him up and tell his dad. >You have to deal with outside threats, yes we know, we're not pacifists >keep communities happy only the community I live in. and sure, not a problem >be moral. you got it. >most Libertarians don't agree with you. whats your point? they're not really libertarians who understand the implications of property rights. crypto-commies imo. they're a bunch of useful idiots for our cause.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505327869 141404561,141423670,2017-09-13 18:40:57,">>141404561 All arguments aside, if we only used 10% of libertarian economics we would be better off. So why don't start with that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505328057 141404561,141423980,2017-09-13 18:44:00,">>141423344 >only the community I live in This is the problem. If you don't keep communities near you happy, then you get commies everywhere. White middle class americans were, for the most part, happy. However, ignoring the plights of those beneath them, while ignoring the subversion of education, led to the massive increase in Leftist retards. >whats your point? Your community is outnumbered by the neighboring ones. No matter what you guys say, you can't stop an invading country, or prevent others for gaining sympathy for others. The group always beats the individual, even if the individual is in the right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505328240 141404561,141424806,2017-09-13 18:51:36,">>141423980 >ignoring the plights of those beneath them, while ignoring the subversion of education, led to the massive increase in Leftist retards. thats still my community, not outside communites. I would outright ban subversives in my community. >Your community is outnumbered by the neighboring ones. No matter what you guys say, you can't stop an invading country, or prevent others for gaining sympathy for others. The group always beats the individual, even if the individual is in the right. And I'll be plenty nice and beneficial to them trade with them and all, we're not aggressive warlords like communists. We know how to make friends. If you're implying I need to give other nations gibsmedats in order to not be murdered you're dead wrong.",,Anonymous,1494465323338.png,MJI4Yg7Nh8FhQCrSjBUwIQ==,,,1505328696 141404561,141425147,2017-09-13 18:54:51,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_Quote_BW_2.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,US,,1505328891 141404561,141425537,2017-09-13 18:58:46,">>141424806 >I would outright ban subversives in my community I'm sorry, who made you king? >And I'll be plenty nice and beneficial to them trade with them and all, we're not aggressive warlords like communists. We know how to make friends. And what if you don't agree with them? What happens when they see land with limited defense, no governing body, and a shit ton of resources? See the colonization of Africa and America as examples. Even communities that traded with colonists where eventually colonized themselves. hierarchy>individualism >If you're implying I need to give other nations gibsmedats in order to not be murdered you're dead wrong. I never said that, only that you can't make everyone in your own communities happy. The problem is you allow societal problems to fester while being vulnerable to outside attack at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505329126 141404561,141425547,2017-09-13 18:58:51,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_072703.34.47.jpg,ZMJSCI1yerTMFffOfxOjqw==,US,,1505329131 141404561,141426054,2017-09-13 19:04:22,,,Anonymous,Hoppe_Quote_BW_1.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,US,,1505329462 141404561,141426326,2017-09-13 19:06:49,"Has anyone asked Hoppe his opinion on the fact that (what the media would call) ""internet nazis"" have associated him with violent and extremist ideas such as physical removal understood as death squads, admiration for Pinochet or helicopter rides? Not that I have a problem with that, but I imagine he might not really like it.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1505329609 141404561,141426394,2017-09-13 19:07:24,">>141425537 >I'm sorry, who made you king? im sorry, I mean, I'll pay to join a community that bans leftism. >limited defense, no governing body straight up crap assumption, all properties are owned by someone, they are the governing body, they will organize defense as necessary. >hierarchy>individualism I agree, ""muh individualism"" is a shit meme. >you allow societal problems to fester while being vulnerable to outside attack at the same time. No, you don't seem to understand. There are laws made by the property owners or people involved in creating a covenant and then you must consent to those laws for get the fuck out. ""authoritarianism"" that doesn't violate property rights is cool with me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505329644 141404561,141426571,2017-09-13 19:09:16,">>141426326 He loves it, its brought him much status and raised his book sales. Hoppe doesn't give a shit about political correctness. source: One of our thread patrons went to meet him in Malta and talked about it wtih him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505329756 141404561,141426587,2017-09-13 19:09:21,">>141426326 Hoppe's actually a pretty cool guy",,Anonymous,12tk.png,atwX1fP1BDi25KOkUwbq2w==,US,,1505329761 141404561,141426878,2017-09-13 19:12:14,">>141426571 >>141426587 Nice. it would be disappointing if he disabowed right-wing extremism.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1505329934 141404561,141427009,2017-09-13 19:13:35,">>141426394 >im sorry, I mean, I'll pay to join a community that bans leftism. But isn't that pretty much tax? And isn't tax theft? >straight up crap assumption, all properties are owned by someone, they are the governing body, they will organize defense as necessary. Yeah, they will organize and then be utterly crushed, just like the Africans and Native Americans. >I agree, ""muh individualism"" is a shit meme. That's literally what AnCap is. >No, you don't seem to understand. There are laws made by the property owners or people involved in creating a covenant and then you must consent to those laws for get the fuck out. So kind of like a government, except government actually has sane policies on dealing with things like self defense laws and property rights. By your logic, all governments are AnCap because they own the land and if you don't agree to the laws (covenants of previous generations) then you should just leave.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505330015 141404561,141427018,2017-09-13 19:13:40,">>141426878 Hoppe? disavow the far right? baka he is the far right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505330020 141404561,141427331,2017-09-13 19:16:52,">>141404964 Does anyone have any good photos of Hans-Hermann Hoppe? I've only recently started getting into Anarcho-Capitalism, I'd like to start wearing the sunglasses and coat that he wears. Don't worry, I'm purchasing books and looking into materials I should study as well.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505330212 141404561,141427440,2017-09-13 19:17:57,">>141426587 PHYSICAL PUNISHMENT",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505330277 141404561,141427505,2017-09-13 19:18:42,">>141427009 pleb af understanding of ancap man. Ancap is not opposed to goverment or hierarchy. we embrace these things. we however reject hierarchy and goverment dictated at gun point. we want a goverment by genuine contracts, voluntary interaction. all things that may be considered ""authoritarian"" are fine under ancap ethics as long as they are voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505330322 141404561,141427605,2017-09-13 19:19:32,I'm a center right progressive libertarian. Can I join you guys?,,Anonymous,22b6cde6dd7c25286f8559803886c84314b2034a31753992ef1c47e341e76766.jpg,tNo4TGkjVPFdYrz1K3z59A==,US,,1505330372 141404561,141427708,2017-09-13 19:20:27,">>141427605 >CENTER right >progressive fuck no faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505330427 141404561,141427818,2017-09-13 19:21:29,">>141427018 I know, but he's still an academic and intellectual. It wouldn't be strange if he said: ""Yes, some of my statements can be misunderstood, but I have nothing to do with those hateful nazis!"". Knowing that he doesn't care makes me respect him much more",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1505330489 141404561,141427895,2017-09-13 19:22:10,">>141427331 Got a few",,Anonymous,Hoppe_4.png,vodplgKDngqNlpNR/Uj59A==,US,,1505330530 141404561,141428017,2017-09-13 19:23:04,,,Anonymous,hoppe_schwag.jpg,/oKffiF/L4eYbnur/Lcaow==,US,,1505330584 141404561,141428056,2017-09-13 19:23:34,">>141427818 I'd imagine he keeps a semi clean record for the sake of the institutions he's involved with. but even so, I think he's far more radical than he lets out publicly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505330614 141404561,141428220,2017-09-13 19:25:08,">>141427708 Constitutional Conservative?",,Anonymous,NO STEP ON SNEK.jpg,/ar3kjpp2eSs2byIgxpd7Q==,US,,1505330708 141404561,141428277,2017-09-13 19:25:43,">>141427505 >Ancap is not opposed to goverment or hierarchy. we embrace these things. we however reject hierarchy and goverment dictated at gun point. we want a goverment by genuine contracts, voluntary interaction. Then what is the problem with the modern world for you guys? Most countries you are free to leave, and were but in place by people agreeing on a governing style. And you guys are apparently OK with might makes right, considering that if a person can't defend their property, then they don't deserve it according to you. Do you guys just want to reset the world? Why not just join a doomsday cult then?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505330743 141404561,141428559,2017-09-13 19:28:23,">>141428277 No, might does not make right. Contracts make right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505330903 141404561,141428591,2017-09-13 19:28:35,Daily reminder that 16-31% of our populations lean more in our direction than the other parties. We need to tap into this hidden potential.,,Anonymous,ekins_fig1.jpg,EAIeHS8BxxKlarC9+7HmAA==,,,1505330915 141404561,141428964,2017-09-13 19:32:18,">>141428559 There are Libertarians and AnCaps that would disagree with you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505331138 141404561,141429210,2017-09-13 19:34:37,">>141428964 Might may discard ethics if its devolved into but in a discussion of right vs wrong, we've evolved to argumentation & contracts. Too many alt-righters ignore this progress and assume life is still just the jungle with a big gun keeping everyone in line. Observing how humans behave would prove its not that simple once humans discovered win-win situations & the benefits of cooperation, it's no longer absolute.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505331277 141404561,141429226,2017-09-13 19:34:44,">>141417038 >Marxist socialism You mean socialism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505331284 141404561,141429234,2017-09-13 19:34:47,">>141428964 Like I said, they're idiots. I don't care very much if they agree or not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505331287 141404561,141429353,2017-09-13 19:35:54,">>141429226 >>141420762",,Anonymous,,,,,1505331354 141404561,141429505,2017-09-13 19:37:23,"Daily reminder, Brazil's Liberty movement is doing brilliantly well and we of the west need to step up our game, get enthusiastic.",,Anonymous,e71aac5385706795022181ee8083d0e0.jpg,8no48EUZqgGbSMWROOKzmQ==,,,1505331443 141404561,141429621,2017-09-13 19:38:31,">>141404561 hi there slav bro... i want to get to the point here and ask a few questions -what is a right wing libertarian and why i have never heard anything from them -what are your goals -why do nat-soc and libertarians hate each other -are there different types of libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,VE,,1505331511 141404561,141429954,2017-09-13 19:41:41,">>141429210 >Might may discard ethics if its devolved into but in a discussion of right vs wrong, we've evolved to argumentation & contracts. Countries will colonize you and just take your shit or rip you off if you don't defend it. Just take a look at what the Chinese are doing in Africa. AnCaps and Libertarians can't defend or maintain their communities because each person has a different idea of what a community should have. It may be OK for the first generation if you are lucky and no countries make a move, but you cannot guarantee that your kids will just be a carbon copy of you. If it doesn't fall from the outside, it will inevitably fall from the inside. >>141429234 Hey, it's your ideology, not mine my man. You have to accept that retards are drawn to a poorly toughtout ideology.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505331701 141404561,141430049,2017-09-13 19:42:34,">>141429954 >thought out I guess I have dyslexia now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505331754 141404561,141430320,2017-09-13 19:45:09,"Daily reminder kids to read your literature so you can grow principled & consistent. >>141429621 Right-wing Libertarians in the west are those that have continued the liberal & classical liberal tradition. From Lao Tzu, through the enlightenment of the middle ages, the rise of liberalism in Britain (Scotland) & France into Libertarianism & Ancap. The torch of liberty is our mantle. > what are your goals Advancement of freedom & human liberty. Emancipation from the state and getting people control of their lives back. > why do nat-soc and libertarians hate each other Because we are individualists & they are collectivists, we have different values that are odds & different methods although both despise the left/communists. > are there different types of libertarians? Minarchists/Classical liberals believe in a small night watchman government Anarcho-capitalists believe in a stateless society. Agorists vary in methdology in that they want radical non-compliance, grass roots activism & avoiding the state. There are left-wing style libertarians but they're not us, they're like Bakunin & Kropotkin IIRC. How's things in Venezuela?",,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1505331909 141404561,141430438,2017-09-13 19:46:27,libertarians are useful idiots to the elite,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505331987 141404561,141430485,2017-09-13 19:46:53,">>141430049 It's not poorly thought out, low iq plebs just can't understand it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505332013 141404561,141430711,2017-09-13 19:48:58,">>141430485 >all Libertarians argue with each other about what Libertarianism actually is >meanwhile, all NatSocs are on the same page Sounds like a great system. Instead of solving problems, you just ignore them and say there is no problem.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505332138 141404561,141430842,2017-09-13 19:50:00,">>141430320 Eh, no. You got it all wrong. Especially ""muh individualism"" Collectivism is fine as long as it's not an infringement of property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505332200 141404561,141430943,2017-09-13 19:50:59,">>141430711 Who is strasser?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505332259 141404561,141430974,2017-09-13 19:51:15,">>141429954 > Countries will colonize you and just take your shit or rip you off if you don't defend it Yes defence is important. I'm talking more about society & community in general. Even things like ostracism are huge. Ancaps & Liberts don't need to have the same idea on defence, they just have to choose from available options which no one can predict without specifics. Be it business, militia, levies, armed populace, technology based, trading with a state to be under its protection etc etc. The part most people ignore is that countries go to war to take over existing government structure, if there is no government then the only hope is to forcibly occupy every single household which is unsustainable and much more expensive than just trade. Though without a national identity there's nothing to invade besides resources which the local or that countries businesses will already be extracting, don't assume that a stateless society looks anything like a state with the guards on strike it would be a ridiculous assumption. > carbon copy of you meaningless, same with every society especially fascist/nat soc, you can't guarantee the same type of people will always have power to further & maintain your goals. The only thing necessary for us is the culture & culture can change that's not in dispute if you change any culture into anything else the society will change. > fall from the inside I think once people get a taste of what freedom can offer the state will fall into the dustbin of history just like the ideas of kings/flat earth/divine right. Other people will be infected by such a beautiful yet realistic system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505332275 141404561,141431225,2017-09-13 19:53:37,">>141430438 Says the statist giving the elites their justification for a one world government. Enjoy your dystopia. >>141430842 Property rights are individualist thats their basis, collectivism sacrifices this & justifies violating it. Don't tell me about my own ideology mother fucking boot licking cunt. I'll shit in your mouth after I break your fucking leg.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505332417 141404561,141431425,2017-09-13 19:55:35,">>141431225 Collectivism is putting others before yourself, if you choose that where exactly is the violation I'd property rights? There isn't you cosmopolitan freak.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505332535 141404561,141431479,2017-09-13 19:56:11,">>141431425 Of property rights*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505332571 141404561,141431485,2017-09-13 19:56:12,">>141430943 Night of the Long Knives solved the problem. There is no Libertarian equivalent. >>141430974 >The part most people ignore is that countries go to war to take over existing government structure, if there is no government then the only hope is to forcibly occupy every single household which is unsustainable and much more expensive than just trade. Are you for real? Since when did Africans and Native Americans have government? We took them over and just forced them to obey us, with or without gov. >you can't guarantee the same type of people will always have power to further & maintain your goals We have an educated populace with a high quality of life. We'll be fine. >I think once people get a taste of what freedom can offer the state will fall into the dustbin of history just like the ideas of kings/flat earth/divine right. Or they will realize that people stopped living in tribes and began making nations for a reason. Nations are harder to conquer.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505332572 141404561,141431548,2017-09-13 19:56:52,">>141430320 thanks for the info >How's things in Venezuela? the opposition (that is against the communist goverment of nicholas maduro) is weak as fuck and the entire 80% of the population over here that is against the goverment thinks that we can defeat nicholas maduro by using democracy...wich is completely stupid beacuse you cant use democracy to destroy a dictator and literally most of the population is cucked...but hey look on the bright side atleast white people and black people dont hate each other...they instead hate commies",,Anonymous,,,VE,,1505332612 141404561,141431564,2017-09-13 19:57:01,">>141431485 Physical removal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505332621 141404561,141431744,2017-09-13 19:58:46,">>141431564 >>141417626",,Anonymous,,,,,1505332726 141404561,141431862,2017-09-13 19:59:54,">>141431425 Collectivism is group over the individual, property rights are based on the individual, their individual claims, based on their individual actions and their individual rights. Collectivism says that the individual and their property can be sacrificed or controlled if it is in the public/collective good. You can't twist very clear terms you spastic I love you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505332794 141404561,141432530,2017-09-13 20:05:36,">>141431485 > Africans and Native Americans True, that was imperialism which occupied areas uncivilized & then betrayed the locals. Which is fair enough, its a lot different than rocking up to a bunch of towns, cities, businesses etc. Think Afghanistan but without a government, occupying people without being able to take over their tax system or police force/military etc. Decentralized civilization is much different to nomads & centralized states. > educated populace with a high quality of life When your collectivist policies destroy your economy & they start to resent the system I don't think it would be so. > began making nations for a reason Yes humans found collective force/defence to be useful and so we progressed, that doesn't mean collective force/defence can only exist with a violent monopoly of force over a given geographical area that claims divine right above people & their property. That's the difference, somethings are necessary but they can be provided in many different ways, that's the progress & evolution we're looking for rather than regression to masters in your system, giving people control over our lives again. Not my bag of tea thanks. >>141431548 So you mean instead of overthrowing the government they think they can win in rigged elections vs someone with total control/power? That would be fucked.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505333136 141404561,141432925,2017-09-13 20:09:34,">>141405727 When it comes to social herarchies and differences between social strats, libertarians take right and left stances on the subject. Which, I agree, is falling in the Marxists rethoric trap.",,Anonymous,,,BO,,1505333374 141404561,141433043,2017-09-13 20:10:43,">>141431225 >Property rights are individualist thats their basis, collectivism sacrifices this & justifies violating it. Isn't it irrelevant how a group of individuals manages property & capital through some kind of contractual obligation? Besides, isn't it the ultimate form of individualism when you can freely enter and quit mutual agreements?",,Anonymous,w.png,xcpHkYedMDmABzNEvpIGOw==,,,1505333443 141404561,141433267,2017-09-13 20:12:38,">>141431744 He's a faggot that's gonna get removed. Those are our strasserfags",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505333558 141404561,141433354,2017-09-13 20:13:27,">>141431225 >Says the statist giving the elites their justification for a one world government. Enjoy your dystopia. how did you get that from my comment? are you that retarded?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505333607 141404561,141433407,2017-09-13 20:13:58,">>141404561 Add Nozick to the list",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505333638 141404561,141433426,2017-09-13 20:14:13,">>141431862 CHOOSING to put others before yourself is not a violation of property rights you retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505333653 141404561,141433448,2017-09-13 20:14:22,">>141433043 Depends on what you value desu. I value voluntarism & think that property ownership means having the right to exclusive use & control. If other people control my property then I don't truly own it and they are either infringing on my rights or claiming to have higher authority to control it. Voluntary agreeements, contracts etc yeah are fine. My problem is how we as a society justify oxymorons & contradictions in what a term actually means. We claim to own things on one hand and then justify the state on the other hand. I'm against this false justification.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505333662 141404561,141433466,2017-09-13 20:14:35,">>141433407 Nozick is a cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505333675 141404561,141433547,2017-09-13 20:15:15,"There is no such thing as right wing libertarianism. Power just shifts from the state, to corporations who continue to fuck over the proletariat.",,Anonymous,IMG_2173.jpg,GKNhj+4FztnE4Fgtklgghg==,,,1505333715 141404561,141433658,2017-09-13 20:16:34,">>141405528 https://youtu.be/g9dwTSXkiII This would make a good addition to the music list",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505333794 141404561,141433709,2017-09-13 20:17:06,">>141432530 >Think Afghanistan but without a government, occupying people without being able to take over their tax system or police force/military etc. The only reason Afghanistan revisited invasion is because they weren't just killing all Arabs they saw. That happened with Africans that resisted and Native Americans that resisted. It's an exception. If a country was serious about conqering you, an AnCap and Libertarian community wouldn't last. Also, you don't have the numbers that Afghanistan had, considering that Libertarian communities can't be big because there is no way that many people think exactly the same way. >When your collectivist policies destroy your economy & they start to resent the system I don't think it would be so. cittation needed. The policies saved Germany, they didn't damn it. The rest of the free market, meanwhile, is still subject to massive crashes and depressions. If anything, the opposite will happen. >Yes humans found collective force/defence to be useful and so we progressed, that doesn't mean collective force/defence can only exist with a violent monopoly of force over a given geographical area that claims divine right above people & their property Are you just trying to fit as many Libertarian buzzwords as you can in a sentence? Having a singular united area is more efficient than having areas in different geographical locations. There isn't a ""monopoly on force"", you are free to defend yourself if it is justified in NatSoc, and in most collectivist countries throughout history. People have control of their lives in NatSoc, they aren't debt slaves who are subject to kikes manipulating the market like in your scenario. >>141433267 Except stasserfags don't out number NatSocs. >>141433547 I hate you even more than them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505333826 141404561,141433731,2017-09-13 20:17:21,">>141433354 Anyone who isn't Liberty based is a useful idiots for the elites. >>141433426 Choosing means you are in control, which is consistent yes. No one is against for example voluntarily signing an explicit social contract for example. But collectivism as an idea is about justification for power & authority, collectivism says that individuals don't get to choose, this is much different than voluntarism/cooperation/community which is consistent with individualism because as I said the individual can choose. Natsoc/fascism/democracy/socialism, all forms of collectivism have something in common you're missing, people don't get to choose or else it wouldn't be collectivism. Do you get what I mean there?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505333841 141404561,141433914,2017-09-13 20:19:05,">>141433547 stfu your ideology was the one that destroyed my country",,Anonymous,DIjI0xsWAAARTWr.jpg,7ekWyxhPvLFzsQuiJr3sDg==,VE,,1505333945 141404561,141434182,2017-09-13 20:22:00,">>141433914 No, your countries relience on oil was the fault of your collapse. Also chavez wasn't even a commie/socialist. He just poured money into social programs to get on the side of the people to remain in power.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505334120 141404561,141434325,2017-09-13 20:23:27,">>141433731 I am liberty based, nothing I said was anti-liberty, im just wondering whats taking you cucks so long to start demanding public lynchings of the crooks in DC and NY that you blame for ruining capitalism and raping our rights",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505334207 141404561,141434352,2017-09-13 20:23:44,">>141434182 you are either brain dead or a troll pretending to be communist can't tell though",,Anonymous,",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.jpg",wnlJY3Ph30lSns9Zgfj8mw==,CA,,1505334224 141404561,141434465,2017-09-13 20:24:50,">>141433547 The power structures are nothing alike. Corporations are state created fictions through limited liability entities, legal fictions if you wil with various state granted privileges. They also need not be a violent monopoly that claims to be above people & their property, it can be level & decentralized a state cannot. >>141433709 If a country was serious about invading our homes we would be serious about defending it in various ways, we would make it too costly & painful to maintain and make it too appealing to just allow their/our businesses to operate. Peace actually works believe it or not, history is rife with peaceful trade & defence. States don't guarantee success either, atm if the US was wiped off the map 90% of the western world wouldn't be able to handle invasion themselves. I think the private market & the right community incentives would be far more efficient than the bloated military industrial complex of the US nor the cucked western states reliant on it. > policies saved germany It created an artificial boom fueled by debt & government spending, typical keynesian bullshit that was destroying its economy in the long term until a wise man liberalized the economy and launched Germany to one of the world best economies while other countries maintained similar policies to the nazis and suffered. > a singular united area is more efficient than having areas in different geographical locations. The difference as I'm trying to explain is that the state is very specific, it claims to be above people & property, you can have collective defense without an institution claiming right above your person & property, similar to how a security guard doesn't claim to own your truck full of money, nor your house nor your person. Can you see the difference there in justification/structure?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505334290 141404561,141434580,2017-09-13 20:26:11,">>141433426 There is no ""choice"" if you can't choose ""no"", and a collectivist government doesn't take the individuals ""no"" for an answer by definition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505334371 141404561,141434706,2017-09-13 20:27:33,">>141434182 Why didn't other countries reliant on oil collapse? Why would a country gifted with one of the biggest wealth generators and such a beautiful climate collapse while no other country did? Hint: Socialism. >>141434325 I don't know if that would work. I think we need to spread the ideas and transform the culture just as the marxists did, politics & revolution rely on the underlying beliefs. We are spreading the ideas & we are supporting a slew of alternatives that are growing, think free state movement, seasteading, bitcoin, saving the internet etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505334453 141404561,141434747,2017-09-13 20:28:07,">>141434352 >insults not arguments Thanks, porky.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505334487 141404561,141434875,2017-09-13 20:29:35,">>141433547 >Power just shifts from the state, to corporations In short, the economic power stays with those who earn it. Sounds like a good system. I also find it distinctly hilarious how commies hate corporations, since in a political sense, that's what a socialist government IS, a country wide, political incorporation of all businesses.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505334575 141404561,141435040,2017-09-13 20:31:24,">>141434706 >>141434706 you list those things but never talk about the POS that you share an economic system with, you will get nowhere while the crooks control everything, you're wasting your time if you dont shoot at the big elephant in the room thats getting in your way",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505334684 141404561,141435193,2017-09-13 20:33:22,">>141435040 What would that be?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505334802 141404561,141435227,2017-09-13 20:33:49,">>141416745 The point was to cluster each symbol around the same extreme. Falangism, fascism, and natsoc would each be at middle top if there was room.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505334829 141404561,141435295,2017-09-13 20:34:31,">>141434747 attempts at communism in real life count more than the attempts in your head",,Anonymous,,,,,1505334871 141404561,141435345,2017-09-13 20:35:06,">>141433914 stop sending migrants to argentina reeeee!!!!",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1505334906 141404561,141435493,2017-09-13 20:36:44,">>141434182 >chavez >not a commie",,Anonymous,1503535918729.jpg,219VflX/+0XdtPhf59qzjA==,VE,,1505335004 141404561,141435626,2017-09-13 20:38:04,">>141434182 >funded social programs >still not a socialist",,Anonymous,21462332_496163500735966_7148651379819967932_n.jpg,N6Kwcz4YLKNFqXMWshMpAQ==,,,1505335084 141404561,141435714,2017-09-13 20:38:58,Post you face when someone thinks positivism and economics are compatible.,,Anonymous,CarlMenger[1].jpg,rn7H0Zb14U0d5as40pWCQg==,AU,,1505335138 141404561,141435826,2017-09-13 20:40:00,">>141435345 i wish i could...but i cant we venezolanos are to dumb to organize a revolution in other words we are just going to wait untill the U.S invades us",,Anonymous,,,VE,,1505335200 141404561,141435915,2017-09-13 20:40:46,">>141434875 Nice job, you actually made me laugh. A corporations goal is profit. Nothing else. >>141435295 >implying I'm a leninist >>141435493 Fun Fact: People sometimes lie about what they truly are.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505335246 141404561,141435939,2017-09-13 20:41:02,">>141434182 >socialize entire industries >not socialist",,Anonymous,1410d5cec5ca1b6536b8e5139239607c--the-hill-foxs-news[1].jpg,UUWl7Gq3CD1TkzF4klQPbg==,AU,,1505335262 141404561,141436261,2017-09-13 20:44:24,">>141435193 My point is you put too little emphasis on things like the military-industrial complex and class/elite theory in regards to how moneyed elites game everything including markets and the government. You dont name the jews/globalists/elites/bourgeois and you shill for the thinkers (many of whom were jewish) that masterminded our corrupted system; one example is Hayek, who went on to support a CIA propped up fascist dictatorship installed literally by David Rockefeller.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505335464 141404561,141436301,2017-09-13 20:44:57,">>141434580 I'm not talking about government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505335497 141404561,141436380,2017-09-13 20:45:41,>>141435714,,Anonymous,Master-Of-Praxeology.jpg,CxwcL8lV5nVti8YSVtymsA==,,,1505335541 141404561,141436435,2017-09-13 20:46:26,">>141435915 Chávez promised free gibs started this whole welfare thing and he even expropiated some companies in the process",,Anonymous,,,VE,,1505335586 141404561,141436461,2017-09-13 20:46:44,>>141435714,,Anonymous,14468639_268466766887296_4971960999086412608_o.jpg,MJKTxu/WkV7Ljn60VANRCg==,US,,1505335604 141404561,141436517,2017-09-13 20:47:12,">>141436435 and that is just the beginner stuff",,Anonymous,,,VE,,1505335632 141404561,141436576,2017-09-13 20:47:52,">>141436261 >Hayek >influential in wider society Are you fucking retarded? The inly reason he even got a nobel prize was because he was more palatable than Mises to the cucks that run that shit, not because he was influential.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505335672 141404561,141436729,2017-09-13 20:49:51,">>141435915 >A corporation's goal is profit A corporation's goals are whatever its shareholders goals are. A corporation and a government are one and the same. They are constructs, made to represent the actions of many people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505335791 141404561,141436731,2017-09-13 20:49:53,">>141436435 Did he redistribute the means of production? Did he free people from the chains of corporations?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505335793 141404561,141436831,2017-09-13 20:50:56,">>141436301 yes you are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505335856 141404561,141436869,2017-09-13 20:51:20,>>141435714,,Anonymous,hazlitt.jpg,UYp/dYohPLzkGuWqQ9v8Wg==,,,1505335880 141404561,141436885,2017-09-13 20:51:33,">>141436261 I don't shill for the elites at all, I attack dodgy corporations, banksters & intellectuals as much as the government they use to implement their bullshit. The thing that pisses me off about hearing people bash Mises, Hayek, Friedman is that they take small sentances out of context to slander great men with incredible bodies of work. People are flawed & people slip up in things they say, but most of all they are character assassinated by the marxists and I won't be a part of that. The conservatives have a literary history 1,000x more disgusting than saying ""I would take a Liberal dictator over a communist president"" etc. So do the marxists both collectivst ideologies have the most despiscable intellectuals behind them, what Hayek & Mises went through was amazing, they're saints in comparison & deserve respect for keeping the flame of liberty alive. All in all though, I won't shill for the elites and I'll bash everyone of them. Can't do it in every post though. I've been tracking these people through history to understand them and their goals and I'm sick to my stomach so for a little while I've gone back to the liberal/libertarian tradition to stop from cutting my own wrists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505335893 141404561,141436957,2017-09-13 20:52:23,"only the commie here is not a faggot > but he gets the oven too",,Anonymous,rockwell10.jpg,DVhEOSPJNrL0i2/ILu0JKA==,,,1505335943 141404561,141436986,2017-09-13 20:52:42,">>141436576 Hayek was a key writer/thinker for early free markets/neoliberalism, the road to serfdom is a highly recognizable book to anyone that isnt retarded. Dont be a dense retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505335962 141404561,141436988,2017-09-13 20:52:43,">>141436731 >Did he redistribute the means of production? Yes. He stole business, especially refineries from the american investors, and handed them over to ""his countrymen"". Communism, not even once.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505335963 141404561,141437032,2017-09-13 20:53:09,">Austrian economics in 2017 Austrian economic is a joke theory. While Austrians have been circle-jerking and staying in their thought bubble for the last 60+ years, neoclassical economics introduced these ideas to the world: Human capital theory Rational expectations macroeconomics The random walk view of financial markets Signaling models Public choice theory Natural rate models of unemployment Time consistency The Prisoners' Dilemma, coordination games, and hawk-dove games The Ricardian equivalence argument for debt-neutrality Contestable markets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505335989 141404561,141437082,2017-09-13 20:53:42,">>141436576 > The use of knowledge cited by almost 15,000 articles alone on google > Hayek & Mises double teamed & destroyed intellectual socialism together > Hayek is the demon of ""neo-liberalism"" and blamed for most everything by the marxists that fear such a great man I think he was influential enough. Road to serfdom was tip top and he's come up with some of the most amazing revelations for libertarians. Together they really were the last knights of liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505336022 141404561,141437109,2017-09-13 20:53:55,">>141436988 this",,Anonymous,1499725874623.jpg,X3mDFkItqx+fdhDA6NeQew==,VE,,1505336035 141404561,141437124,2017-09-13 20:54:05,">>141436957 Narcissism and race realism create a pathetic mix. Rockwell was a fucking tool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505336045 141404561,141437169,2017-09-13 20:54:30,">>141436957 Of course you would sympathize with the commie, you filthy socialist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505336070 141404561,141437189,2017-09-13 20:54:47,">>141437032 > Predicted the great depression > Predicted the GFC > offer the only true solution > continually create literature debunking mainstream bullshit I think they've done alright.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505336087 141404561,141437360,2017-09-13 20:56:38,">>141437124 be on /pol/ not being a race realist > found a nigger or jew",,Anonymous,,,,,1505336198 141404561,141437367,2017-09-13 20:56:41,">>141436731 Shut up stupid, your entire ideology was invalidated during the marginal revolution, that why Marx didn't release anything after Carl Menger and other marginalists released their work. Once the labor theory of value was destroyed there is no surplus value and their is no exploitation as defined Marx. Marx knew it, everyone whit an IQ above 90 knows it. Go hang yourself.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505336201 141404561,141437478,2017-09-13 20:57:51,">>141437189 >Debunking mainstream economics Austrians don't understand neoclassical economics. All they do is accuse everyone of being Keynesian, which doesn't make sense because Keynesianism isn't built from neoclassical assumptions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505336271 141404561,141437792,2017-09-13 21:01:02,">>141436831 Fuck off retard, quote where I said anything about the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505336462 141404561,141437808,2017-09-13 21:01:12,">>141437360 I am a realist, just not a narcissist. The most compelling arguments we have, are our connections with the black power movement. White people ought to be able to work, live, and fight for their own kind, not be handed the victory like some sort of pathetic participation trophy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505336472 141404561,141437889,2017-09-13 21:02:10,">>141436957 I'm AnCap and all, but GLR is cool in my book.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505336530 141404561,141438009,2017-09-13 21:03:28,">>141437792 You're talking about rules, and how the government ought to be run, and then the second someone shines some light on you, ""I ain't talkin' bout gubmint"" >CHOOSING to put others before yourself is not a violation of property rights you retard. The insinuation being that the government is not violating your rights if you just, you know, throw em' away. For the greater good, of course!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505336608 141404561,141438552,2017-09-13 21:09:36,">>141438009 Retard, I literally said nothing about the state or how the government ought to be run. Quote me on exactly where I referred to state coercion. You can't, you're trying to argue with someone who agrees with you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505336976 141404561,141438757,2017-09-13 21:11:50,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDDwuekdlzY posting /our slav/",,Anonymous,janusz korwin mikke.jpg,iiHPmk/HgEypWJoE40lzrA==,,,1505337110 141404561,141438769,2017-09-13 21:11:58,">>141434465 >If a country was serious about invading our homes we would be serious about defending it in various ways, we would make it too costly & painful to maintain and make it too appealing to just allow their/our businesses to operate How can you make it difficult? Colonization doesn't exactly require the other party's approval, and even if you make things difficult, there is no guarantee that they will just pack up and leave. You are just at the whim of the invader at that point. >States don't guarantee success either But they are safer than the alternative. >It created an artificial boom fueled by debt & government spending, typical keynesian bullshit that was destroying its economy in the long term It wasn't destroying the economy at all. What's destroying the economy, both before the NatSoc and now, is the expectation that the population will continually grow, forever, and that there will be enough resources for everyone. >countries maintained similar policies to the nazis and suffered They also let Jews into their countries and shit, which is a crucial part of the system they left out. >The difference as I'm trying to explain is that the state is very specific, it claims to be above people & property, you can have collective defense without an institution claiming right above your person & property, similar to how a security guard doesn't claim to own your truck full of money, nor your house nor your person. Can you see the difference there in justification/structure? No, the way I see it, a state owns all the land and resources within it's borders. It's like a large landowner rather than a security guard. Similar to how you can govern your property, they can govern theirs. If you are within the state's borders, you are within their property and have to respect the laws of the land/government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505337118 141404561,141439141,2017-09-13 21:16:04,">>141438552 why should I even entertain you anymore when you obviously have no fucking clue what the fuck you're fucking talking about anymore? You're trolling, it's obvious. >You can't, you're trying to argue with someone who agrees with you. I'm a libertarian, and you were arguing with an ancap. You're a liberal, and just a retarded, fucking, screaming baby, all the way down. >Quote me on exactly where I referred to state coercion You don't specificly mention it, because it conflicts with your idea of liberalism, and coercion as freedom. >CHOOSING to put others before yourself is not a violation of property rights This is wrong. You are wrong. You cannot moralize assfucking other people by saying you wouldn't mind a good black dick between the cheeks. Get over it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505337364 141404561,141439957,2017-09-13 21:24:36,">>141439141 >You cannot moralize assfucking other people by saying you wouldn't mind a good black dick between the cheeks. Get over it. what is voluntary cooperation",,Anonymous,,,,,1505337876 141404561,141440565,2017-09-13 21:30:56,">>141416383 I stopped paying attention to that faggot years ago. I know this is probably photoshopped, but did he seriously get his logo tattooed on his back?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505338256 141404561,141440742,2017-09-13 21:32:46,">>141439957 >Libertarians >cooperating with each other kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1505338366 141404561,141441364,2017-09-13 21:39:47,">>141435915 >People sometime lie about what they truly are You mean like how every communist dictator LARPs as a working stiff before getting into power and tyrannizing the people he pretended to serve? When will you learn, commie?",,Anonymous,yuri bezmenov on 'useful idiots'.png,T39VAUkYezCAreorpCZEtw==,US,,1505338787 141404561,141441370,2017-09-13 21:39:51,">>141440742 Why the hell not, though. I'm all in for alternative economies, crowdfunding, and advancing our cause among the masses in market ways. If someone sees himself as a secluded isolationist, why would I really care.",,Anonymous,rrrrr.png,8SysthkOV8ImJFmMp4Ua4A==,,,1505338791 141404561,141441663,2017-09-13 21:42:47,">>141404561 Tax land not man states only function should be as a trust to collect and distribute ground rents to the people citizens dividend is right",,Anonymous,meme.jpg,yQrvSTfK64XOGV9R2oBJTg==,US,,1505338967 141404561,141441871,2017-09-13 21:44:59,">>141441663 wrong image",,Anonymous,locked.jpg,Tb/Tx2IsMpbHuN8h81EzZg==,US,,1505339099 141404561,141442052,2017-09-13 21:47:14,">>141441370 >Why the hell not, though Because you guys can't agree on basic policy. You guys don't have a concrete vision of what you want apart from ""freedom"", when that is a concept that everyone has a different interpretation of.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505339234 141404561,141442145,2017-09-13 21:48:21,">>141441663 >State taxes land >Every just starts renting instead >The landlords and farmers become tax cattle for the state and policies like rent controls and tenant rights are enacted which further harm their profits >Everyone starves and the housing market crashes as landlords leave the country >Anarchy ensues Great plan, famalam.",,Anonymous,1502578063986.png,WB6rQhUnnK9jBptt2QAmzA==,US,,1505339301 141404561,141442417,2017-09-13 21:51:36,">>141442052 >The subway can't leave unless everyone agrees to get off at the same station.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505339496 141404561,141442513,2017-09-13 21:52:45,">>141442052 I don't want to sound contrarian, but I am not a great fan of all these theoretical debates in the first place. To me, as long as people support an anti-authoritarian stance on the government, market ways, and cultural/race realism on top of that, that's enough. I am more concerned with actual pragmatic action.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505339565 141404561,141442663,2017-09-13 21:54:15,">>141442417 False equivalency. While a subway is predicable and linear, how people interpret freedom is not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505339655 141404561,141442871,2017-09-13 21:56:40,">>141438769 > How can you make it difficult? > But they are safer than the alternative. The state is slow, bloated & inefficient, to think the market wouldn't effectively defend a territory far better than the military industrial bloated beast, with an armed populace, high free market technology & market efficiency. > It wasn't destroying the economy at all. Funny how the Germans reversed Hitlers policies and the result was staggering, curious that is. > They also let Jews into their countries and shit Which had no bearing on economics restrictions that fucked with supply. > No, the way I see it, a state owns all the land and resources within it's borders. Illegitimately. That's why we exist, to argue that the state as a non entity has no right, because only individuals can logically own property. The individuals in the state don't claim to own all the property like a king would they claim to work on behalf of a ficticious entity that claims to be above private property. I don't have to respect shit, only as long as people belief in this fiction and justify its violence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505339800 141404561,141443028,2017-09-13 21:58:37,">>141442052 > concrete vision According to you. My vision is clear, it's concise what you're confusing is that we don't have a central plan for how every business will run, how every structure will be, but we aren't central planners we recognize that people will choose the alternatives they value as they choose everything in the market. It's your understanding of our intentions & human action in the market that is preventing you from seeing the vision of what freedom looks like. I'm not a central planner, stop acting like we have to be.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505339917 141404561,141443102,2017-09-13 21:59:20,">>141442663 Questionable. One might argue that there's a linearity of interpretations, which each subsequent interpretation agreeing with the previous one, but being more radical or extended",,Anonymous,,,,,1505339960 141404561,141443168,2017-09-13 22:00:06,">>141442663 Freedom is fairly linear. We all have the same goal- less government. Under all libertarian forms of government there is a pathway for people to voluntarily leave the state. If we decide to stop at a Hoppean monarchy or a minimalist democracy (ew), the ancaps among us should be allowed to pursue their ideology away from the state. I'm sure most everyone here will agree with that. Even mainstream """"""libertarians"""""" would agree with that. My analogy is accurate, we're all on the same train. The ancaps just get off at a different station down the line.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505340006 141404561,141443250,2017-09-13 22:01:06,">>141442663 Questionable. One might argue that there's a linearity of interpretations, with each subsequent interpretation agreeing with the previous one, but being more radical or extended",,Anonymous,,,,,1505340066 141404561,141443257,2017-09-13 22:01:12,">>141442663 That's why it's individual freedom, they choose what they want for their lives without harming others. That is the culture we want to instill in people, that leads to the society we want. We want people to recognize and subjectively agree with the NAP, to objectively agree with Life, Liberty & property as a necessity that we need to apply consistency. It's much more simple than Democracy, or Fascism or any form of centralized statism, if you can't grasp the simplicity in spontaneous order than I feel for you I really do. Economics is not a dismal science as that fascist prick said, it's beautiful.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505340072 141404561,141443366,2017-09-13 22:02:20,">>141443168 Radical decentralization & secession. It's all simple stuff really, the issue is getting there obviously & spreading the ideas that lead to it as a conclusion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505340140 141404561,141443798,2017-09-13 22:06:59,">>141440565 yes he did. I dont understand how he fell off like he did. He was amazing an interviews calm and knowlegeble. Had a real quality channel too. Watched him today for the first in a while. Looks like everything has gone down. He was rambling, he production was horrible. I dont get it. Maybe to many drugs. Hope he fixes whatevers wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505340419 141404561,141444039,2017-09-13 22:09:23,">>141443257 >We want people to recognize and subjectively agree with the NAP, to objectively agree with Life, Liberty & property as a necessity that we need to apply consistency. How will you convince them of this? Convince me, for example",,Anonymous,,,,,1505340563 141404561,141444176,2017-09-13 22:10:34,">>141426587 Warms the heart dont it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505340634 141404561,141444216,2017-09-13 22:10:56,">>141443366 True, the real problem is trying to explain Austrian economics to normies. They simply can't conceive of a corporation that actually wants to just make a good product and make a tidy profit for their work. Decades of communist subversion have really taken a toll on the mainstream view of businesses. I'm not too confident in our ability to achieve mass-appeal, at least not on the economic front.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505340656 141404561,141444589,2017-09-13 22:14:34,">>141442871 >The state is slow, bloated & inefficient, to think the market wouldn't effectively defend a territory far better than the military industrial bloated beast, with an armed populace, high free market technology & market efficiency. The state doesn't have to be slow, bloated, and inefficient, nor does the state have to completely control the free market. >Funny how the Germans reversed Hitlers policies and the result was staggering, curious that is. Yeah, now they are a shit hole whose citizens are in debt to private banks. Truly a miracle. >Which had no bearing on economics restrictions that fucked with supply. I can assure you that letting Jews play their game is what caused each economy to fail. There is no evidence that Hitler's economy would have crashed, barring extended use of the wartime economy, which is different than how it was during peacetime. >Illegitimately. That's why we exist, to argue that the state as a non entity has no right, because only individuals can logically own property. No. If that were the case, businesses can't own property either because they aren't an individual. >I don't have to respect shit Then you get a helicopter ride in AnCapistan if you were unlucky enough to be born in a society you don't like. Tough luck. >>141443168 >We all have the same goal- less government. No. I think we should clean out the government, then strengthen it. >Under all libertarian forms of government there is a pathway for people to voluntarily leave the state. Just like NatSoc >My analogy is accurate, we're all on the same train. The ancaps just get off at a different station down the line. Different states competing with one another would simply be a repeat of the U.S under the articles of confederation: weak, inefficient, petty children with no one to keep them in line.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505340874 141404561,141444658,2017-09-13 22:15:06,">>141443250 I interpret freedom as living in country governed by and for the best interests of the people. I see individualists and people that push for less state as destroyers of culture and morality, nothing more.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505340906 141404561,141444688,2017-09-13 22:15:22,">>141443798 Me too. I haven't read his book since high school but it was one of the books that really got me into the libertarian right. It seems like, like a lot of people nowadays, he started confusing liberty with freedom, and that's where he went downhill. I loved his points about localization and how if everyone just helped their local communities and helped defend them there wouldn't be a need for a government. Then as the border control debate started and he threw his hat squarely on the left side things went off the deep end for him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505340922 141404561,141445704,2017-09-13 22:24:52,">>141444589 >we need clean out the government, then strengthen it we need to clean the house, then throw shit at it >nat soc allows people to volunatirly leave Uh, no it doesn't. Since when is that a tenet of your ideology? Do you really think Hitler would've tolerated anarchists trying to leave his society when he was busy throwing NEETs in labor camps? >petty children with no one to keep them in line Ah, yes. Because you are the enlightened father figure of all mankind and we are but your humble children. Go fuck yourself. What kind of an ego do you have to have to think of yourself like that? Men have the right to self-determination you fuckwad, I don't have to listen to a single word you say. You have no authority over me, and judging by your sad attempts at debate I've seen throughout this thread, you aren't deserving of the least bit of my respect.",,Anonymous,ancap andy.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,US,,1505341492 141404561,141446009,2017-09-13 22:27:46,">>141444039 You're unconvinceable. We're looking for open minded people that respond to our logic, our evidence & our vision. It's not for everyone but generally when people ""choose""an ideology convincing them is impossible because the brain sees contrary evidence as an attack, forcing them to double down on their beliefs. Convincing those people takes time, gradually, they need to be shown in reality what it looks like and what the alternative looks like to make those connections in the brain. We do this the same way any ideology can, spreading the ideos, implementing what we can to give practical examples, side step the state, argue for non-compliance with the state, voting, non-voting whatever it might be. The point though is very important, a culture of NAP produces NAP aligned structures. >>141444216 Yeah it calls for many different approaches, for showing positive examples like UBER & negative examples of what the state does. It calls for persuasion, sales, maybe logic, maybe emotion, maybe imagery, maybe outrage, maybe a vision of possibilities. Marxists were great at changing the narrative without making everyone Marxist economists, making people convince themselves. >>141444589 > The state doesn't have to be slow, bloated, and inefficient This is where I don't think you and I would ever agree. I see the state as a series of bad incentives, bad structures, bad premises that always lead to growing the state & poor outcomes adverse to intentions. > Truly a miracle. It was a miracle, shame they wasted it. > is what caused each economy to fail I don't know how you can assure me that the British wartime rationing/price controls were the cause of jews & not a lack of economic freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505341666 141404561,141446114,2017-09-13 22:28:53,">>141444688 >if everyone just helped their local communities and helped defend them there wouldn't be a need for a government How do you make that happen?",,Anonymous,1499701586377.jpg,6P4C1ZTwD5+hCOuub1hvOw==,,,1505341733 141404561,141446307,2017-09-13 22:30:42,">>141444658 While I don't advocate for the abolition of the state, I regard over-reliance on the government as an extremely weak, inefficient long-term strategy. From a historical perspective, the government is extremely fickle and susceptible to change, often in the opposite direction. It's so much better when culture and morality are not in the hands of the state, but rather controlled by people's voluntarism, ambition and entrepreneurship. Of course, the media plays a crucial role at spreading ideas and indoctrinating the masses these days, and to fight back, you have to win the audience. This might seem like a daunting task. But it is still a purely market game, or rather, the free market of ideas. You just have to fight.",,Anonymous,rrr.png,83AQ0/8REGFhhTZUUgtD3w==,,,1505341842 141404561,141446586,2017-09-13 22:33:30,">>141446114 I was talking about what I thought in high school, commie. Note the past tense of the word ""loved"". I'm not an ancap anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505342010 141404561,141446795,2017-09-13 22:35:37,">>141446009 Give me your logic evidence and vision, then. >a culture of NAP produces NAP aligned structures Those structures will require the culture to remain, like any other, right? In an environment of free association and capitalism, how do you protect that culture? States do it through public schooling, propaganda, restrictions on media, etc. and it's very effective.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505342137 141404561,141446975,2017-09-13 22:37:23,">>141445704 >we need to clean the house, then throw shit at it I want to clean the house, then install better locks and a security camera so niggers don't steal from me. Meanwhile, you want to clean the house, then give a key to every big company. >Uh, no it doesn't. Since when is that a tenet of your ideology? Do you really think Hitler would've tolerated anarchists trying to leave his society when he was busy throwing NEETs in labor camps? Yes, they can leave the country. Hitler wasn't literally Satan, believe it or not. >Ah, yes. Because you are the enlightened father figure of all mankind and we are but your humble children. Go fuck yourself. No, I'm not aiming to be the fuhrer. That's something I can trust to my fellow NatSocs. >I don't have to listen to a single word you say. You have no authority over me, and judging by your sad attempts at debate I've seen throughout this thread, you aren't deserving of the least bit of my respect. Thanks for proving that you are a child throwing a tantrum. >YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME, MOM! >>141446009 >This is where I don't think you and I would ever agree. I see the state as a series of bad incentives, bad structures, bad premises that always lead to growing the state & poor outcomes adverse to intentions. So you think all government is bad, yet all successful corporations MUST be good. You can't just base things on policy and just what they actually do. I see some gov as good, as some as bad. Same with corporations. >>141446307 >From a historical perspective, the government is extremely fickle and susceptible to change, often in the opposite direction That's only for shit like monarchies and democracies. NatSoc was consistent in it's dealings on policy. I think just trusting corporations to always to the right thing is completely naive. NatSoc doesn't put full confidence in either the gov or the market, it puts it into the people. That's why they have guns - a final failsafe just in case the gov is somehow infiltrated.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505342243 141404561,141447432,2017-09-13 22:41:35,">>141446009 >I don't know how you can assure me that the British wartime rationing/price controls were the cause of jews & not a lack of economic freedom. The only reason the UK was even kept in the war is because Jews don't play fair. Kikes in the U.S fed and kept the British in the war while doing everything they could to enter it. It took many, many capitalist systems to beat a single NatSoc one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505342495 141404561,141447434,2017-09-13 22:41:37,">>141446795 > how do you protect that culture? Freedom & its successes are infectious, think of the US when everyone in Europe & the world wanted to go there for a better life. It's up to the people themselves to remember what the state was like & educate the next generation. It's always about example & education, maybe Molymeme is right that a society that reaches certain goals like peaceful parenting or a peaceful free market with the communities that produces may be what's needed. It's the million dollar question for anyone that reaches their goals, my issue is reaching those goals as closely as possible in my lifetime. > Give me your logic evidence and vision, then. I know you think you're open to things but I'm not sure I can summarize an entire ideology in a couple of posts. I'm sure you've encountered our arguments for the market over the state, freedom over control, individualism over collectivism, trade over violence, the philosophical basis of Self-ownership, property, NAP, free markets, competition over monopoly, decentralization etc and if you haven't I would wonder why. If you don't like those things I've listed I would be more interested in your values & fears that lead you to reject them and take up Natsoc than in the logic you probably think debunks them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505342497 141404561,141447487,2017-09-13 22:42:04,">>141446975 >so niggers don't steal from me >me >my house Again, see a therapist about your ego. You say you want to clean house and to make it better for everyone. But that's only until you get into power. Than it's tyranny time. See: every instance of authoritarianism in the 20th century. >ancaps could leave the country sauce? >more fatherly bullshit You really need an ego check, dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505342524 141404561,141447519,2017-09-13 22:42:25,">>141446975 >I'm not the leader of an authoritarian regime, I'll just hope that I have someone who wont fuck me in the ass! That's every cucksoc here. You think you can turn society on its edge yet none of you want to lead. You're just anarchists hiding in collectivist clothing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505342545 141404561,141447520,2017-09-13 22:42:25,">>141446586 I didn't ask about you loving it, I asked about the point itself. >commie Natsocs were the ones that actually killed commies, you've only ever LARPed about it or supplied them with weapons.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505342545 141404561,141447808,2017-09-13 22:45:15,">>141446975 > All government is bad Yeah I think its core is rotten & aganst my values. > all successful corporations MUST be good No that's not our class theory at all. For starters corporations are state created fictions and would exist very differently. Marxists view struggle as rich vs poor, we view struggle as freedom vs power & people in the right = people that produce, trade etc whereas people that plunder are in the wrong = corporate rent seekers, welfare leeches, governments, thieves etc. People can get where they want to go in moral/immoral ways, they can get there peacefully through voluntarism or not through stealing, taxing, getting tax funded grants, government granted monopolies, violence etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505342715 141404561,141448149,2017-09-13 22:48:34,">>141447432 > many, many capitalist systems to beat a single NatSoc one Ohh I see your view of history now, very revealing. ""Look at how many countries the jews had to con into taking on the might of the third reich!"". I highly doubt Britain was a very free market place, you'd be more realistic to say a collapsing empire vs a Fascist dictatorship. Could the Nazi's really stand up to the US you reckon?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505342914 141404561,141448231,2017-09-13 22:49:17,">>141447520 So was Stalin's ""socialism in one country"" policy national socialism or not? Nazis only killed commies because they wanted power. It was internationalist commies versus nationalist commies. It just commies killing commies. >You've only ever LARPed about it Maybe because we're not a bunch of dumb goons? We're not going to go McVey on them until the current order collapses inevitably. Whether that comes by our own hands or through the natural collapse of republics is yet to be determined. We can't spread word of libertarianism from prison.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505342957 141404561,141448284,2017-09-13 22:49:54,">>141447519 >I'm not the leader of an authoritarian regime, I'll just hope that I have someone who wont fuck me in the ass! No one ever addresses this. The same flaw with all statism, getting the right people in power & making sure they implement the exact policies these people want now and forever without ever coming after these degenerate tranny fappers. Seems way more naive than trying to render the state obsolete.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505342994 141404561,141448376,2017-09-13 22:50:37,">>141446975 >NatSoc was consistent in it's dealings on policy. NatSoc doesn't put full confidence in either the gov or the market, it puts it into the people. One thing that stops me from aligning with that is my complete lack of faith: those postulates are purely hypothetical and rather represent wishful thinking. Being a pragmatic thinker, I don't seek the government of my dream. However, it's perfectly fine to pursue higher ideals, and I can't accuse anyone of that. >I think just trusting corporations to always to the right thing is completely naive. Also, it's not about ""trusting"" corporations. On an ideological level, I think, the problem is that there are too few /ourguys/ among them. Another, more existential problem is that humanity is severely infected with statist obsessions and the notion of ""tribalist corporations"" is largely unexplored today. But I believe they're feasible.",,Anonymous,1504924729406.jpg,iADCZWeZka2kUSXG4Ass7A==,,,1505343037 141404561,141448505,2017-09-13 22:51:57,">>141446114 Government is for the protection of the one against the many, not the opposite. By this enforcement voluntary support is necessary as committing degenerative acts of crime or selfishness only is a detriment to not only the individual but the whole of the community. Why would a man hoard bread when he could sell it for profit to those with the means to pay through goods or labor?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505343117 141404561,141449084,2017-09-13 22:57:15,">>141447487 >But that's only until you get into power. Than it's tyranny time. See: every instance of authoritarianism in the 20th century. Hitler kept the quality of life and morals high for the country. He fixed Berlin by turning from a cesspit of degeneracy into a city that it's citizens could be proud of. There was no ""tyranny"". >sauce? All of the emigrants from Germany after Hitler was elected. He only put people in camps if they 1: didn't leave AND 2: kept spreading anti-nazi shit Otherwise, they were completely free to leave. >more fatherly bullshit Sorry you never met yours, man. >>141447519 >That's every cucksoc here. You think you can turn society on its edge yet none of you want to lead. You're just anarchists hiding in collectivist clothing. No, we just are all on the same page. Some of us are willing to lead, it's simply that people who are willing to lead are killed before we get power. It's not just about willingness to lead either, you also have to be charismatic, look the part, and be a good speaker. >>141447808 >Yeah I think its core is rotten & aganst my values. That's not seeing the potential within it, but just decrying the entire thing because of a few bad instances. Of government as a whole. Lumping communism, monarchism, and NatSoc is the same category because ""muh government"" is dumb. >For starters corporations are state created fictions and would exist very differently. What proof do you have that every single corporation is ""state created""? >One thing that stops me from aligning with that is my complete lack of faith: those postulates are purely hypothetical and rather represent wishful thinking. Being a pragmatic thinker, I don't seek the government of my dream. However, it's perfectly fine to pursue higher ideals, and I can't accuse anyone of that. Yet you place your faith in corporations? In the goodness of man? Libertarianism has been tried, and it was easily corrupted, subverted, and twisted into what we have now. cont.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505343435 141404561,141449361,2017-09-13 22:59:40,">>141449084 >Some of us are willing to lead, it's simply that people who are willing to lead are killed before we get power. It's not just about willingness to lead either, you also have to be charismatic, look the part, and be a good speaker Sounds like such a weak ideology then if you radicals get stamped down so easily. However the cry for fewer state obstructions and the overthrow of executive overreach is growing and you trying to claim white nationalism as a part of the ideologies big government and statism is only bleeding the white race. Dictators have no place in this era.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505343580 141404561,141449398,2017-09-13 23:00:04,">>141448376 Also, it's not about ""trusting"" corporations. On an ideological level, I think, the problem is that there are too few /ourguys/ among them. Another, more existential problem is that humanity is severely infected with statist obsessions and the notion of ""tribalist corporations"" is largely unexplored today. But I believe they're feasible. There are tribalist corperations. Jews work together with other Jews for Jewish interests and destroy any competition that says otherwise. There aren't /ourguys/ because they won't allow it in the market for independent people to be successful. You have to be in the cabal, or you fall.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505343604 141404561,141449410,2017-09-13 23:00:12,">>141447434 >Freedom & its successes are infectious, think of the US when everyone in Europe & the world wanted to go there for a better life. I recall a whole lot of aggression going on around that time period. >If you don't like those things I've listed I would be more interested in your values & fears that lead you to reject them and take up Natsoc I've encountered 'em all, yeah. Just never any of the logic and reasoning behind them. It always boiled down to what's basically god-given rights. The thing is, a lot of what you listed are false dichotomies from my perspective. Trade over violence for example; you can pursue both. Self-ownership and private property; the basics of which is either someone owns something ""exclusively"" or they don't own it at all, but it's not that black-and-white. Free markets is a big one, because what's implied is that it means opportunity and competition but that's not the case. It also means the opposites, it's all dependent on the ups and downs, and the population is utterly at the mercy of this. I want competition, always, and the lowest barriers to entry in the market as possible, always. I don't see any way of ensuring this besides through government policy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505343612 141404561,141449724,2017-09-13 23:02:54,">>141449361 >Sounds like such a weak ideology then if you radicals get stamped down so easily. However the cry for fewer state obstructions and the overthrow of executive overreach is growing and you trying to claim white nationalism as a part of the ideologies big government and statism is only bleeding the white race. Dictators have no place in this era. Except we aren't. We even yet exist in countries where we are illegalized, and not only that, but sometimes there are rallies held there. A weak ideology is one that betrays itself, like Libertarianism. This explains the problem with Libertarianism quite nicely. >>141419048",,Anonymous,,,,,1505343774 141404561,141450072,2017-09-13 23:06:14,">>141449084 > That's not seeing the potential within it, but just decrying the entire thing because of a few bad instances. Few bad? The core of what a state is itself is what I'm against. They've all been ""bad"" ,they all justify rule over people and prevent people from living their lives how they want and peacefully with others. I don't want rulers anymore, I don't trust them and we don't need them. Their potential is hanicapped by the very premise of a violent monopoly & its taxation methods. > What proof do you have A corporation is a legal fiction, Pty Ltd, limited liability, ie corporations the government created them. Without that you are left with individuals, responsible people that can't use the state to hide behind ficticious entities to protect them from their evil actions. AFAIK it started with the Crown creating, propping up, protecting & using the East India Company. > Yet you place your faith in corporations? No, faith in how competition & trade turn greed into a productive activity, faith in incentives, economic laws, human behaviour and our ability to solve problems gradually over time, not utopia. > In the goodness of man? The biggest argument against the state, if everyone is good you don't need a state, if everyone is bad you can't have a state, if most are evil the state will be evil, if some are evil but most are good than we can solve problems as a majority and the evil minority can & will gravitate towards the one entity that gives them legitimized control over the masses & legalized violence. Human nature means we can't have rulers long term, human nature also means people will make mistakes but progress & evolution show we can become more peaceful & cooperative overtime thanks to capitalism on that one. (division of labour, trade, production etc)",,Anonymous,,,,,1505343974 141404561,141450318,2017-09-13 23:08:31,">>141448231 >So was Stalin's ""socialism in one country"" policy national socialism or not? No. Stalinism was less cancerous than Trotskyism, sure, but both are bolsheviks, both followed Marx's doctrine about property and government. >nationalist commies There's no such thing. Tell me, at what point did Hitler plan for his country's industry to be collectively controlled? At what point were resources to be distributed equally, according to need rather than the interests of the nation?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505344111 141404561,141450483,2017-09-13 23:10:10,">>141449724 Libertarianism is for the advancement of the individual unchained by the overbearing of forces beyond his control. Replace volk with proletariat and state approved degeneracy free(tm) companies with state capitalism and what difference is your collectivist race based ideology than the class based ideologies of socialism and communism? Communists and other radicals exist everywhere, it matters little for laws showing how useless even a big state is. What is ironic about the claim about self sabotage is that neonazi organizations were not relevant until communists began attacking them. I remember decades of them being irrelevant until the leftists decided to fight them. The common person on the street isn't impressed. However, the common person is concerned about how deep the deep state goes and corruption in the bloated state. You offer us liberation but only bring politburo national socialist style when the people want less government in their lives which allow for the foreign hordes and other undesirables to be protected.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505344210 141404561,141450627,2017-09-13 23:11:36,">>141449398 >There are tribalist corperations. Jews work together with other Jews for Jewish interests and destroy any competition that says otherwise. There aren't /ourguys/ because they won't allow it in the market for independent people to be successful. You have to be in the cabal, or you fall. We need some kind of a WASP-like elite to supplant them. I mean those who attained a high position in the market, share particular principles and spread them through the free market of ideas. That is a must, consider it as the road map of people with my views. Another thing is, I am fully supportive of voluntarism, voluntary organizations. Think about it this way: if you believe in the possibility of National Socialism, why wouldn't you believe in the possibility of National Socialist corporations that would simply function as market agents? Both require some amount of ""energy"" coming from initiative and decisive individuals, but the market-based solution is just easier to implement, because it's based on voluntarism. Really think about it.",,Anonymous,9563275.jpg,GXlsZuR/Dagammq9gd2hFg==,,,1505344296 141404561,141450978,2017-09-13 23:15:04,">>141448505 >Government is for the protection of the one against the many Idealism is good, but if it's not applied in practice it doesn't mean much. >Why would a man hoard bread when he could sell it for profit to those with the means to pay through goods or labor? Stockpiling, price manipulation. The point there was that the logical thing for him to do is make himself profit, by selling it. Does this not mean it's also logical to make as much profit as possible? Selling a lot of bread to a few people who will pay more because they like over-eating, for example.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505344504 141404561,141451080,2017-09-13 23:16:03,">>141405342 no based aus truediltom with this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYwcgQfh49k baka",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1505344563 141404561,141451172,2017-09-13 23:16:48,">>141450072 >The core of what a state is itself is what I'm against. They've all been ""bad"" ,they all justify rule over people and prevent people from living their lives how they want and peacefully with others. I don't want rulers anymore, I don't trust them and we don't need them. Their potential is hanicapped by the very premise of a violent monopoly & its taxation methods. Well, if you think for the majority of human history there have only been bad societies, I think you might be retarded. We do need rulers. Most people are fucking idiots. It's the same way a child needs parents. >A corporation is a legal fiction, Pty Ltd, limited liability, ie corporations the government created them. Without that you are left with individuals, responsible people that can't use the state to hide behind ficticious entities to protect them from their evil actions. AFAIK it started with the Crown creating, propping up, protecting & using the East India Company. Not seeing proof, I'm just seeing some guy tell me shit without any sources. There are plenty of companies that do evil shit without the government telling them they can. Look at what shit like Nestle is doing. >No, faith in how competition & trade turn greed into a productive activity, faith in incentives, economic laws, human behaviour and our ability to solve problems gradually over time, not utopia. So how does trade happen in a post industrial society? CORPORATIONS. Corporations can, without the government telling them not to, just create a monopoly, thus completely dismissing everything you said about competition. >Human nature means we can't have rulers long term Literally any empire would like to disagree with you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505344608 141404561,141452015,2017-09-13 23:25:25,">>141450483 >Replace volk with proletariat and state approved degeneracy free(tm) companies with state capitalism and what difference is your collectivist race based ideology than the class based ideologies of socialism and communism? That's like me saying ""replace freedom with redistribution and competition with cooperation and what difference is your lawless state with the lawless state that communism tries to be?"" Race and class are two very, VERY different things. >state approved degeneracy free(tm) companies It's not hard to be approved, just don't be evil. There is still competition. >You offer us liberation but only bring politburo national socialist style when the people want less government in their lives which allow for the foreign hordes and other undesirables to be protected. We want to cleanse the government before expanding it. >>141450627 >We need some kind of a WASP-like elite to supplant them WASPs don't act the same way Jews do, so it's impossible unless everyone doesn't do business with them, or unless there is a government making sure Jews don't ruin shit. >I am fully supportive of voluntarism, voluntary organizations. So am I, but relying on the goodness of people volunteering for every single thing in society is dumb. There will always be people with harmful mindsets, allowing them to fester and spread their rhetoric will collapse your society of volunteerism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505345125 141404561,141452199,2017-09-13 23:27:23,">>141449410 > I recall a whole lot of aggression going on Missing the point mate. Point is when freedom showed what it was capable of to a degree people flocked to it. Just as Chinese flock to Hong Kong. > Trade over violence for example; you can pursue both. Not on an interaction level though, they're mutually exclusive. Yes Germany can invade France & trade with England, but you're either trading or fighting. So why not trade with both? See war is as Rothbard would say the health/food of the state. Its hall purpose to grow, to centralize & take over. If you need steel its very easy to buy it from someone who mines it or buy land and mine it yourself. You need steel how do you get it? The government wants steel to be at an advantage vs other states, its a win-lose mentality as with all violence, vs trade which is a win-win mutual mentality. > basically god-given rights There's many basises. You've got natural rights, god given rights, argumentation ethics, axiomatic, deontological (arguing for principles), utilitarian, something for everyone. For me the most I can condense is down is Life, Liberty & property being the basis for a peaceful society, an efficient society & individual happiness or at least meeting an individuals wants/needs. That's what I value, people being able to seek their path while being peaceful with others to the degree where its possible. > I don't see any way of ensuring this besides through government policy. Except government is THE entity that creates these barriers, any attempt by a business to set them up themselves hurts their ability to continue doing business, the incentives for people to interact with them etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505345243 141404561,141452331,2017-09-13 23:28:45,"I love the idea of these threads , but they are full of more pseudointellectuals than /lit/. Good luck fellas.",,Anonymous,me.jpg,QFmmycxGmFzD3otwW7eijg==,,,1505345325 141404561,141452938,2017-09-13 23:35:12,">>141452015 >WASPs don't act the same way Jews do And you don't really have to act in the same way. You just have to supplant them in key fields, like the media. Of course, you can have a different ethics. The WASPs sure did. >So am I, but relying on the goodness of people volunteering for every single thing in society is dumb. There will always be people with harmful mindsets, allowing them to fester and spread their rhetoric will collapse your society of volunteerism. I believe that you can stave off the bad morals through the free market of ideas, in a market way. Besides, the natural order of things is always on our side, since we appeal to it most. And marketing works. The Danes bought some banner spaces in 2015, some TV time, run a bunch ads ""do it for mom"" and they literally caused a baby boom, there was a news about it. This is a market way of doing things. No, I believe in my ways. I hope my insight was helpful.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505345712 141404561,141452963,2017-09-13 23:35:26,">>141451172 > there have only been bad societies No I think we have been trying to progress as a species & there are varying degrees of good/evil, right/wrong, success, happiness, survival etc. Most people being idiots is okay, the market incentivises them to grow up, we don't need rulers and people can't be trusted to rule because of human nature and 6,000 years of history showing rulers abuse power no matter the structure of government. > Not seeing proof, How can I give you a source for a basic fact you should know by know. Pty Ltd is a legal term, legal terms are government terms there is no if buts about this. Businesses & corporations are very different, individual responsibility & limited liability through the state are very different. It began as I said I think with the East India Company thanks to the crown. They are legal fictions, check every countries laws. > So how does trade happen in a post industrial society? CORPORATIONS. Corporations can, without the government telling them not to, just create a monopoly, Okay now you're being absurd. How are corporations the only way for a post industrial society to trade, you might be confusing businesses with corporations. How would they ""just create a monopoly"" this has never happened in history withou the state. > Literally any empire would like to disagree with you. You mean empires that have always collapse & always abused individuals? Yeah no thanks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505345726 141404561,141453054,2017-09-13 23:36:27,">>141452331 I'm sorry, I'd rather talk about books & ideas than argue with collectivists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505345787 141404561,141453070,2017-09-13 23:36:40,">>141452015 >WASPs don't act the same way Jews do And you don't really have to act in the same way. You just have to supplant them in key fields, like the media. Of course, you can have a different ethics. The WASPs sure did. >So am I, but relying on the goodness of people volunteering for every single thing in society is dumb. There will always be people with harmful mindsets, allowing them to fester and spread their rhetoric will collapse your society of volunteerism. I believe that you can stave off the bad morals through the free market of ideas, in a market way. Besides, the natural order of things is always on our side, since we appeal to it most. And marketing works. The Danes bought some banner spaces in 2015, some TV time, run a bunch of ads ""do it for mom"" and they literally caused a baby boom, there was a news about it. This is a market way of doing things. No, I believe in my ways. I hope my insight was helpful.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505345800 141404561,141453387,2017-09-13 23:40:01,">>141453054 I would too, in fact if that were the majority of /lrg/ I'd be in every single one. The problem is that isn't the case, and it often devolves into a holier-than-thou dick sizing contest over whose ideology is better, as if the backfire effect doesn't exist. I lurk, but 98% of the time that's it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505346001 141404561,141454016,2017-09-13 23:47:25,">>141453387 I don't know who makes them but they should make them with a discussion titles about some sort of ideas or post a list of books/people to discuss. I don't make the threads too busy working.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505346445 141404561,141454096,2017-09-13 23:48:23,">>141452938 >No I think we have been trying to progress as a species & there are varying degrees of good/evil, right/wrong, success, happiness, survival etc. Most people being idiots is okay, the market incentivises them to grow up The market will incentivize this, but people will only follow through if they are rational. You are making the assumption that all humans are all rational, all the time. Incentivizing doesn't guarantee an outcome, it can only increase the likelihood. >How can I give you a source for a basic fact you should know by know. Pty Ltd is a legal term, legal terms are government terms there is no if buts about this. Businesses & corporations are very different, individual responsibility & limited liability through the state are very different. It began as I said I think with the East India Company thanks to the crown. They are legal fictions, check every countries laws. If it's a basic fact, you should be able to give a good source on why all big corporations are always government endorsed. >Okay now you're being absurd. How are corporations the only way for a post industrial society to trade, you might be confusing businesses with corporations. How would they ""just create a monopoly"" this has never happened in history withou the state. Corporations can create a monopoly by supporting each other, with or without government. It's what Jews do all the time. Take a look at all the big companies, you'll find most monopolies are the result of Jews working together. NatSoc wants to eliminate this problem by making sure Jews have no say in governmental affairs and thus the government becomes much more resistant to corruption, and the market actually remains free. >You mean empires that have always collapse & always abused individuals? Yeah no thanks. Meanwhile all individualists have been conquered by collectivists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505346503 141404561,141454132,2017-09-13 23:48:53,">>141452199 >Missing the point mate. Wasn't it about NAP culture..? Freedom showed what it was capable of, yeah, but it was as a result of the circumstances. The hype was homesteading. >but you're either trading or fighting. So why not trade with both? Because trade might be less beneficial. It might be outright harmful. It's all dependent on the circumstances, and trade is a bilateral interaction. >Except government is THE entity that creates these barriers You're trying to say that as a universal statement when it's not the case. Our current governments create some of the barriers, but also lessen others. Also the biggest barriers aren't regulations that impact startups, but the things that would prevent a person from actually starting a business so he could begin trying to enter the market in the first place. Namely, poverty, decadence, lack of education, etc. If you agree that competition is healthy for the economy, increases innovation and efficiency, then the logical approach is complete mobilization of the populace, rather than allowing the idle natural selection of laissez-faire to produce enterprises.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505346533 141404561,141454367,2017-09-13 23:51:27,">>141453070 >And you don't really have to act in the same way. You just have to supplant them in key fields, like the media. Of course, you can have a different ethics. The WASPs sure did. They can't do shit if the Jews stay entrenched. The whole point of NatSoc is making sure that the country's people are actually in control of themselves. >I believe that you can stave off the bad morals through the free market of ideas, in a market way. Besides, the natural order of things is always on our side, since we appeal to it most. And marketing works. The Danes bought some banner spaces in 2015, some TV time, run a bunch of ads ""do it for mom"" and they literally caused a baby boom, there was a news about it. This is a market way of doing things. That assumes all people are rational. Leftists do not think, they feel. Likewise, Libertarians are not unfeeling robots. You have families and such that you care about. The free market of ideas is full of people only selling, not looking to buy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505346687 141404561,141455036,2017-09-13 23:59:19,">>141454096 > You are making the assumption that all humans are all rational, all the time. Bullshit. People are more rational in their personal sphere than they are in the public sphere but they don't have to be rational because declaring rationality is largely an opinion, as long as they are responsible then the degree of rationality doesn't matter as long as they choose what they want to choose. Evolution requires pressure & progress takes incentives & time. > good source > A corporation is a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law. Early incorporated entities were established by charter (i.e. by an ad hoc act granted by a monarch or passed by a parliament or legislature). > A corporation is a legal entity that is separate and distinct from its owners. Corporations enjoy most of the rights and responsibilities that an individual possesses. It is often referred to as a ""legal person."" > Corporations can create a monopoly by supporting each other Yet supporting eachother doesn't mean there are artificial barriers to entry, they are still subject to competition, profit motive, incentives & economic laws. > most monopolies are the result of Jews working together. That's a weird way of saying > most monopolies are the result of special interests using the power of the state > Meanwhile all individualists have been conquered by collectivists. Strange view of history. We collectivized force & this force continued to grow, amalgamate, centralize. The Liberal tradition is what came along saying hang on, people can be kings of their own lives & thus a 500 year ideological battle ensued, we were winning until WW1, WW2 & the great depression gave them justification to massively grow the state. It's okay because the tradition remains alive & we are slowly rendering the state obsolete. Freedom is a relatively new concept in history, takes time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505347159 141404561,141455820,2017-09-14 00:08:21,">>141455036 >Bullshit. People are more rational in their personal sphere than they are in the public sphere but they don't have to be rational because declaring rationality is largely an opinion, as long as they are responsible then the degree of rationality doesn't matter as long as they choose what they want to choose. Evolution requires pressure & progress takes incentives & time. >as long as they are responsible then the degree of rationality doesn't matter as long as they choose what they want to chose. So as long as communists own their choices, then they are A-OK? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. >> good source > A corporation is a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law. Early incorporated entities were established by charter (i.e. by an ad hoc act granted by a monarch or passed by a parliament or legislature). > A corporation is a legal entity that is separate and distinct from its owners. Corporations enjoy most of the rights and responsibilities that an individual possesses. It is often referred to as a ""legal person."" No fucking link or source still. You saying something doesn't just make it true. >Yet supporting eachother doesn't mean there are artificial barriers to entry, they are still subject to competition, profit motive, incentives & economic laws. It does mean there are artificial barriers to entry. They have the full resources of 10 other mega companies, you only have yours. You literally can't compete with that. >most monopolies are the result of special interests using the power of the state They don't need the state. The state is just a middle man they they have influence in. If the state is gone, they can just make a new one. >we were winning until WW1, WW2 & the great depression gave them justification to massively grow the state And the people pushing for state growth? The very same Jews who grew rich under Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505347701 141404561,141455883,2017-09-14 00:09:01,Bump for the Natsoc and Ancap anons to keep the conversation going.,,Anonymous,1499926134435.jpg,fGLnxMuqb5rwiyi5yv8Vkg==,,,1505347741 141404561,141456616,2017-09-14 00:17:30,">>141455820 > So as long as communists own their choices, then they are A-OK? That's not what I said. I said if people are responsible for their personal choices it doesn't matter how rational everyone else is. At the end of the day irrationality makes the state that much more inefficient & immoral, whereas in the market people have to be responsible for their choices but are still free to pursue their choices, irrationality is punished, deliberately buying something more expensive leaves you with less money, choices have consequences that are limited, with the state they are forced onto an entire populance. > No fucking link or source still Hang on a second, are you out of school yet? Have you never learnt wtf a corporation? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation > http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/corporation.asp Why are you being so dense? > You literally can't compete with that. Bullshit. People compete through innovation all the time, that's like saying Itunes can't compete with the record industry, Netflix can't compete with Blockbuster, GMO crops can't compete with established farmers, Wifi can't compete with ADSL, fiber can't compete with ADSL, rain water tanks, bottled water, desalination plants etc can't compete with the one guy piping water into a town. Do you see how fucking stupid that is to say? People compete in filling niche markets too as a starting point. Economies of scale are nice but they're not the be all end all, history shows this. > They don't need the state The state is their justification, if private individuals did what the state does it would be seen as evil, immoral, theft, murder, coercion etc. > And the people pushing for state growth? The very same Jews who grew rich under Libertarianism. Lol fuck off, you're going to blame a non-existant Libertarian society for the elites that have always controlled states advocating to grow them? Insanity.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505348250 141404561,141456777,2017-09-14 00:19:35,">>141404561 I'll be the gun if you be the brick. Lets shoot some holes in fashys and make a mess ;3",,Anonymous,download (1).jpg,N3T/4LNR5big04KG3hFqsg==,,,1505348375 141404561,141456878,2017-09-14 00:21:01,">>141456777 >what happens when two wrongs make a left? >ancoms!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505348461 141404561,141456987,2017-09-14 00:22:20,">>141456878 Dont be so prude!",,Anonymous,But+remember+he+s+not+gay+_eb64282aadbf70037e5e738dabe8b6ae.png,d8LtiIChIZT2eOJgwHpCuQ==,,,1505348540 141404561,141457015,2017-09-14 00:22:38,">>141455883 I can't be fucked anymore, I feel my brain melting at the shit I'm reading. I've got clients coming in about 15mins so I hope it was entertaining and I didn't devolve into anything embaressing. >>141456777 lol, are you calling us fashys you bastard?",,Anonymous,ft_marx-mises-brasil-e1459486351471-1.jpg,4eU/8GOCSmUU7TeCwFc3bQ==,AU,,1505348558 141404561,141457189,2017-09-14 00:24:35,">>141456878 Have you read Rothbard's Betrayal of the American Right?",,Anonymous,The Betrayal of the American Right_Rothbard.jpg,dgWnPhkmFyiR/rQvbQGvvA==,,,1505348675 141404561,141457303,2017-09-14 00:25:57,">>141456987 >>141456777 Nazi here. What you gonna do faggot?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505348757 141404561,141457633,2017-09-14 00:29:51,">>141457189 I've yet to read that one yet, but definitely going to check it out. Thanks for the recommendation anon! >>141456987 It's a joke, you sensitive avatarfag. >>141457015 It's been a good run, I enjoy reading debate, because it helps strengthen my arguments. You can learn something from anything!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505348991 141404561,141457661,2017-09-14 00:30:08,">>141456616 >That's not what I said. I said if people are responsible for their personal choices it doesn't matter how rational everyone else is. At the end of the day irrationality makes the state that much more inefficient & immoral, whereas in the market people have to be responsible for their choices but are still free to pursue their choices, irrationality is punished, deliberately buying something more expensive leaves you with less money, choices have consequences that are limited, with the state they are forced onto an entire populance. A Company's choices can be enforced on the entire populace as well. For instance, it is not efficient for a city to have multiple water lines and roads owned by different companies, because this means for maintenance, the ground will have to ripped up a shit ton of times. Thus, the community will logically just agree on one company for each thing at the most. This company now has a monopoly on that thing, and the choices that company makes will be enforced on the entire populace. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation >http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/corporation.asp Good, so now that you have a source, how does this prove that all monopolies are government created? >People compete through innovation all the time Yes, but it's much harder to do that when you have to go against a corporate giant who can just copy your idea since nothing protects ideas under AnCap, and all of the resources on top of that. >The state is their justification, if private individuals did what the state does it would be seen as evil, immoral, theft, murder, coercion etc. It is seen as that because the state was put in place by the people specifically to govern. Private individuals are not there specifically to govern. When they are, horrific shit happens. Like I said, take a look at what shit like Nestle does.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349008 141404561,141457775,2017-09-14 00:31:33,">>141457303 suck your cock and then throat fuck you. Cute libertarians and submissive nazis turn me on.",,Anonymous,1463543596564.png,g/apW90V91W7V+bSb4M66A==,,,1505349093 141404561,141457972,2017-09-14 00:34:05,">>141457775 Begone. All forms of Anarchism makes you a slave you your desires.",,Anonymous,Chaos_inthe_imperium.jpg,yzpDGGdAlEiEwi+ksQnxgg==,,,1505349245 141404561,141458084,2017-09-14 00:35:18,">>141457972 I'd rather be a slave to nature than a slave to a dictator whose own nature dictates his actions. Why have a man in the middle? You're only providing a source of power that can be exploited.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349318 141404561,141458093,2017-09-14 00:35:24,">>141457972 I'll be your slave..... if youre cute that is TwT",,Anonymous,images.jpg,D393GDRJe074XP+Zk7jL4Q==,,,1505349324 141404561,141458235,2017-09-14 00:37:17,">>141458084 Show some self restraint. Anarchist societies are often quite hypocritical, allowing things like slavery. It's not a world of freedom, it just justifies ""might makes right"". >>141458093 Keep killing this thread please.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349437 141404561,141458284,2017-09-14 00:38:00,">>141457775 >submissive Nazis Do you even know what Nazism is? The second you try any form of physical confrontation, I'll be legally able to break your limp-wristed armand bash your faggy communist ideal-filled head through the nearest brick wall. If there are witnesses that can testify you initiated contact, then I'll walk away scott-free and grab a pint with the guys to celebrate one less degenerate in the world. I say again. What you gonna do, you larping furry? >pic related >does this ""trigger"" you?",,Anonymous,1483693051895.jpg,C5eAvUdm1AWa0KSJbPVZUw==,,,1505349480 141404561,141458297,2017-09-14 00:38:11,">>141458235 Pic?",,Anonymous,download.jpg,iWZWuJid+iZ/D5XvRNdl3A==,,,1505349491 141404561,141458415,2017-09-14 00:39:44,">>141458297 >>141458284 You too. I know without that hard exterior you like to cuddle and talk about anime.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349584 141404561,141458463,2017-09-14 00:40:19,">>141458284 He's obviously just fishing for (you)s. I'll be happy to provide, this threads about to hit 100 soon >>141458297 (you) TAKE THE DRUG YOU FUCKING DEGENERATE",,Anonymous,1493336437859.jpg,cUjT6cuFoXMiTz0THW70OQ==,,,1505349619 141404561,141458517,2017-09-14 00:41:02,">>141458463 >300 I fucked up",,Anonymous,sonicweapons.jpg,319aXrMVNDAdVi/5NqQM+A==,,,1505349662 141404561,141458623,2017-09-14 00:42:30,">>141458235 It's really too late in the thread (and the evening) to keep the debate going, so I'll just leave you a pepe and the song I'm listening to right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uko8Oa_ZdYI",,Anonymous,158.jpg,0t4xiccEOUr226R4rt0VPA==,,,1505349750 141404561,141458687,2017-09-14 00:43:20,">>141457661 Oh hell why not just one more quick one. > A Company's choices can be enforced on the entire populace as well Wasn't the point, the point was who the consequences are limited to for irrational actions. If I purchase something stupid my wallet is lighter, if a president gets into an argument with another the human race can we wiped out, everything they fuck up through irrationality is a problem for tax payers to pay back or bear responsibility for. Rather than just personal responsibility. > natural monopolies https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly > how does this prove that all monopolies are government created? Name one monopoly that wasn't state created. Name one that wasn't by a corporation. I've looked and I'm not aware of any. > who can just copy your idea since nothing protects ideas under AnCap Nothing protects ideas today except capability & reputation. Copying isn't that easy or everyone would've done it with 100% success rate prior to copyright laws. The world economy just doesn't work that way, large businesses can be less nimble than new entrants as history shows through innovation large businesses were unable to adopt in time. > It is seen as that because the state was put in place by the people specifically to govern. Yes people decided we needed to group together for defense, still doesn't mean that you need to justify immorality & a violent monopoly above people & property to do so. You could for example have defensive force that that not claim to be above persons & property, similar to how a security guard doesn't claim to own your gold bullion they're protecting. <3",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349800 141404561,141458696,2017-09-14 00:43:25,">>141458463 >He's obviously just fishing for (you)s and dick. I am 100% serious about having a thing for nerdy white dudes who read ayn rand. I my ex boyfriend on /pol/ actually. Ran out of pics though ;_;",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349805 141404561,141458775,2017-09-14 00:44:26,">>141458623 LOL, threads over.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349866 141404561,141458832,2017-09-14 00:45:16,"Poole's closed faggots, pack up and get the fuck out!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349916 141404561,141458834,2017-09-14 00:45:16,">>141458623 You have good taste in music ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCLG7xUn3k",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349916 141404561,141458887,2017-09-14 00:45:55,">>141458832 See you boys tomorrow!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349955 141404561,141458914,2017-09-14 00:46:21,">>141458834 That's a good song too. I listen to pretty much anything, here's another from a different genre entirely I love. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEbNmK-rNuQ",,Anonymous,,,,,1505349981 141404561,141459073,2017-09-14 00:48:25,">>141458887 Bring books & songs this time please faggot.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505350105 141404561,141459083,2017-09-14 00:48:32,">>141458415 >cuddle and talk about anime Cuddle with chicks, sure, talk about anime.... more like talk about movies. >>141458696 >Ran out of pics though ;_; good",,Anonymous,1480422259500.jpg,zse5AtN1x2iPeWxFfjVXiQ==,,,1505350112 141404561,141459157,2017-09-14 00:49:24,"Fuck it, here's an assortment of random songs from random genres that I've arbitrarily decided are my favorite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZGlGFTs8-g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS3AZ12xf6s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMIzTh0Lafg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEoWOjwqSoQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haVlcMsRIHE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJX6ipZMqOc Have a good night anons!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505350164 141404561,141459200,2017-09-14 00:49:58,">>141458623 >Wasn't the point, the point was who the consequences are limited to for irrational actions. If I purchase something stupid my wallet is lighter, if a president gets into an argument with another the human race can we wiped out, everything they fuck up through irrationality is a problem for tax payers to pay back or bear responsibility for. Rather than just personal responsibility. And one person can poison the water supplies. >https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly Biased and wrong. I just gave an example of how a natural monopoly can form. >Name one monopoly that wasn't state created. Name one that wasn't by a corporation. One guy in a village makes hats, no one else does because everyone else is a farmer. Bam, monopoly. >Nothing protects ideas today except capability & reputation. Copying isn't that easy or everyone would've done it with 100% success rate prior to copyright laws. The world economy just doesn't work that way, large businesses can be less nimble than new entrants as history shows through innovation large businesses were unable to adopt in time. stealing an idea like streaming isn't hard. >Yes people decided we needed to group together for defense, still doesn't mean that you need to justify immorality & a violent monopoly above people & property to do so. You could for example have defensive force that that not claim to be above persons & property, similar to how a security guard doesn't claim to own your gold bullion they're protecting. The government doesn't have to be bad, anon. Something needs to be above property rights or no one will be able to stop their abuse. ANCAPS AND REDDITARIANS BTFO THREAD OVER MODERATES FUCK OFF OF MY BOARD",,Anonymous,This thread.gif,g55ZHnrG1qvF/CGDoMht9A==,,,1505350198 141404561,141459420,2017-09-14 00:52:40,">>141459157 Part II - Covering more genres https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY0BJOcEiOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jsY-YdZ1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sonLd-32ns4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeVGKwhsqn0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkWiC_baTp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_iC0MyIykM Now I'm done. Peace!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505350360 141404561,141459546,2017-09-14 00:54:14,>>141459200,,Anonymous,AnCap snail.png,aNnWzwXZHvxAP7wOlWykTQ==,,,1505350454 141404561,141459568,2017-09-14 00:54:32,>>141459546,,Anonymous,AnCaps.png,xeqbmAVCvmhUvzcJnQseYw==,,,1505350472 141404561,141459801,2017-09-14 00:57:20,">>141459420 Oh! One thing I forgot! For the first link in Part II, I prefer Antonin Dvorak's 9th symphony played all the way through, where The Moldeau is the last piece to be played. It's truly one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505350640 141404561,141460213,2017-09-14 01:02:15,">>141459801 If you use Jewgle Play https://play.google.com/music/m/Bg7mfeyxbbyndmxc5ucf7dllh64?t=Dvorak_Symphony_No_9_-_Berlin_Philharmonic_Orchestra",,Anonymous,Image 9.jpg,97devYYGiUtnKqBXjzGYWA==,,,1505350935 141404561,141460289,2017-09-14 01:03:08,">>141459568 Need more?",,Anonymous,1504575750284.jpg,GLO8yf4n5+3XF2/SiGMmWQ==,,,1505350988 141404561,141460308,2017-09-14 01:03:25,">>141460289 >>141459568 >>141459546 More please!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505351005 141404561,141460407,2017-09-14 01:04:31,>>141460289,,Anonymous,1502309688197.jpg,YNyUAsv8m0ug8YwwxfLKWQ==,,,1505351071 141404561,141460422,2017-09-14 01:04:41,">>141460308 This is now a QUALITY thread",,Anonymous,1491881614278.jpg,Kd+LAPMFA0NCviuEJL6D6A==,,,1505351081 141404561,141460474,2017-09-14 01:05:18,>>141460407,,Anonymous,Libertarian Detective.png,XRvmnFFVc/X0e+5nHUoWVA==,,,1505351118 141404561,141460499,2017-09-14 01:05:34,>>141460308,,Anonymous,1495435102314.jpg,fDaVMSv3YXTPDMFQWUiwjA==,US,,1505351134 141404561,141460511,2017-09-14 01:05:42,>>141460422,,Anonymous,1495422108082.jpg,rIPAkEufLu4hgPnwkpg4eQ==,,,1505351142 141404561,141460515,2017-09-14 01:05:45,">>141460422 I believe you should be able to laugh about everything, so dump anything you've got. >>141460407 Nice one!",,Anonymous,1504127319593.jpg,z2upkUl1+VJN04jme6bHow==,,,1505351145 141404561,141460543,2017-09-14 01:06:05,>>141460511,,Anonymous,1495423231147.jpg,m190Y0BOW4eFdQNt2rML2Q==,,,1505351165 141404561,141460621,2017-09-14 01:06:58,">>141460543 >the free market makes anime look goo-",,Anonymous,HD.webm,s5/L7FuRVvS/3haif68x1A==,,,1505351218 141404561,141460632,2017-09-14 01:07:04,>>141460499,,Anonymous,brrrrrrrrrrrrt.jpg,WqSxZKVLqKGCmvy5rAOo6w==,,,1505351224 141404561,141460650,2017-09-14 01:07:18,>>141460621,,Anonymous,1483631454058.jpg,DuasKaec0lVg/sDCOm68VA==,,,1505351238 141404561,141460674,2017-09-14 01:07:35,>>141460650,,Anonymous,1483632211902.jpg,4/93YWTmpzt/Wr3+PYWiLA==,,,1505351255 141404561,141460684,2017-09-14 01:07:39,>>141460474,,Anonymous,1502309930768.jpg,u3wL1byyRddCGytfkTjHXQ==,,,1505351259 141404561,141460711,2017-09-14 01:07:54,>>141460674,,Anonymous,1483633792360.jpg,aKkNOxlfjcCsn5Z7YuD76w==,,,1505351274 141404561,141460779,2017-09-14 01:08:30,">>141460711 SUPPLY",,Anonymous,1483636810600.png,jYiIcwGTNPelF3swDFSuUg==,,,1505351310 141404561,141460803,2017-09-14 01:08:47,>>141460779,,Anonymous,1483635508242.jpg,GjM9dctuaqugWrv95bMvpg==,,,1505351327 141404561,141460827,2017-09-14 01:09:06,">>141460779 >we un-wanted the food crisis",,Anonymous,1504828074182.jpg,aBhznJpc7n8RLjcit2xjig==,,,1505351346 141404561,141460975,2017-09-14 01:10:34,">>141460827 >he doesn't supply the food",,Anonymous,Mayo.gif,ARUEBvqL1pcGT8jbKX/q6g==,,,1505351434 141404561,141461014,2017-09-14 01:11:00,">>141460474 I've read that one before, and I love it. Thanks for it, gave me a good laugh!",,Anonymous,,,,,1505351460 141404561,141461095,2017-09-14 01:12:08,">>141460975 Why bother feeding your slave- I mean employees? >inb4 have no idea what it's about",,Anonymous,eTao69u.jpg,5TB3ttR5nWf20yq2+F+yNg==,,,1505351528 141404561,141461216,2017-09-14 01:13:37,">>141460975 >tfw I can't find my other folder",,Anonymous,1505218520489.gif,twvpwbBY13YKTjRANKtn2w==,,,1505351617 141404561,141461237,2017-09-14 01:13:56,">>141404561 Woah, I'm impressed. I've never clicked on /lrg/ before (always assumed it would be an endless stream of no step on snek memes) but it seems like you have managed to contain the autism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505351636 141404561,141461297,2017-09-14 01:14:52,">>141461237 Once the thread either dies down or approaches bump limit, it's great because I don't feel guilty about derailing. It usually is full of autism, you got lucky.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505351692 141404561,141461332,2017-09-14 01:15:05,">>141461237 You're welcome",,Anonymous,1000 yard stare.webm,Anm9QWypczVbMRggdNMe0Q==,,,1505351705 141404561,141461381,2017-09-14 01:15:32,>>141461332,,Anonymous,4U.webm,ipPmpht4pdufNYZRiJAamA==,,,1505351732 141404561,141461387,2017-09-14 01:15:39,">>141461216 That's a great gif! >mfw can't draw nearly as well",,Anonymous,Image 23.jpg,eOlNCCBv07AG+GqofFS4zw==,,,1505351739 141404561,141461418,2017-09-14 01:16:01,>>141461381,,Anonymous,"They see me rollin, they hatin'.webm",g58XuxS1hzbNc5RJ/hH/5A==,,,1505351761 141404561,141461467,2017-09-14 01:16:35,>>141461418,,Anonymous,THE ZERK.webm,n5EMPI1jFK436kl0hIG4kw==,,,1505351795 141404561,141461517,2017-09-14 01:17:13,,,Anonymous,1505312016362.jpg,n0WkhNV1iwpflXVjbivz9g==,,,1505351833 141404561,141461518,2017-09-14 01:17:12,">>141461467 Whoops, I guess I have duplicate files for some reason",,Anonymous,so good.webm,GeaoMsMJ/QEPaxbltpEIjg==,,,1505351832 141404561,141461547,2017-09-14 01:17:33,>>141461518,,Anonymous,1468022811427.png,Ghtc/+gQsHCYlraL8VDJbw==,,,1505351853 141404561,141461578,2017-09-14 01:17:50,>>141461547,,Anonymous,CG.png,djF8d8lyTFP3ocKi7GV9Qg==,,,1505351870 141404561,141461603,2017-09-14 01:18:10,">>141461578 CLANG",,Anonymous,Clang.jpg,uGqWmgabCkqkU1b6FBUqnw==,,,1505351890 141404561,141461638,2017-09-14 01:18:35,>>141461603,,Anonymous,clangclangclangclangclang.webm,Bqhh3MmK+0eh+iaUtVqErQ==,,,1505351915 141404561,141461641,2017-09-14 01:18:39,"Oh yeah, reminder that the US is approaching one hundred and three trillion dollars in net debt (that includes national debt). What are you anons gonna do to celebrate?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505351919 141404561,141461658,2017-09-14 01:18:54,>>141461638,,Anonymous,ENHANCE.webm,3MbwIGP1++HF0736JbInfg==,,,1505351934 141404561,141461716,2017-09-14 01:19:38,">>141461658 >>141461641 Be angry at Jews",,Anonymous,QUALITY.webm,qTmwSCO5G3fbSiLZGOUojQ==,,,1505351978 141404561,141461752,2017-09-14 01:20:03,">>141461716 That shit's pretty well animated, what's it called?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505352003 141404561,141461848,2017-09-14 01:21:09,">>141461716 >>141461752 MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK",,Anonymous,ded.webm,JHT1B6pCp1fA4/3j8DERXA==,,,1505352069 141404561,141461957,2017-09-14 01:22:20,>>141461848,,Anonymous,1477685861602.jpg,A1xSA1bflnDMKgYbzk3ZUQ==,,,1505352140 141404561,141461962,2017-09-14 01:22:25,Weird. Thanks!,,Anonymous,1500931151510.gif,U1jVLN6QkI3iKiJCAb11wQ==,,,1505352145 141404561,141461987,2017-09-14 01:22:42,>>141461957,,Anonymous,1496452802458.gif,S7G8fX3i/UrMaWavyORsXA==,,,1505352162 141404561,141462081,2017-09-14 01:23:44,/thread,,Anonymous,1482736709670.gif,/ify1PSWCd4tE8+IdM9TuA==,,,1505352224 141404561,141462107,2017-09-14 01:24:06,"Thread is kill, will lurk the next ones until I see something interesting. Catch ya later, anons.",,Anonymous,tumblr_ont1c9U7x51qg7mgao1_500.gif,mzLPLMnrxERSlz36LHKjow==,,,1505352246 141529887,141529887,2017-09-14 15:37:35,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1488455466717[1].png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,GB,,1505403455 141529887,141530047,2017-09-14 15:39:03,What do you guys think of Curt Doolittle?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505403543 141529887,141530836,2017-09-14 15:46:06,Bump,,Anonymous,1503763832154.png,nhQyQe7zUNDs1S/o/oezHQ==,,,1505403966 141706410,141706410,2017-09-15 23:25:03,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA [Embed] [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed] [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Confederate Snake.png,52CxPl87/7OEY9ES9pFoJw==,US,,1505517903 141706410,141706464,2017-09-15 23:25:30,>>141706410,,Anonymous,1490640805832.png,Phzpys0UeiqqZOlJCwl0dw==,US,,1505517930 141706410,141706480,2017-09-15 23:25:40,,,Anonymous,Communist Filth.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1505517940 141706410,141706526,2017-09-15 23:26:01,,,Anonymous,Open Borders.png,vg9kKDFzZtzubZYzrE7MQA==,US,,1505517961 141706410,141706568,2017-09-15 23:26:30,,,Anonymous,What's your problem.png,jHBTV9Khr6Tkw77yLF+CHw==,US,,1505517990 141706410,141706598,2017-09-15 23:26:50,,,Anonymous,What is it.png,88R2i0cnyIVSx7T41M5IAg==,US,,1505518010 141706410,141706751,2017-09-15 23:28:18,,,Anonymous,What we really are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1505518098 141706410,141706838,2017-09-15 23:29:11,,,Anonymous,REAL Libertarianism.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1505518151 141706410,141706894,2017-09-15 23:29:41,,,Anonymous,The Communist Threat.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1505518181 141706410,141706960,2017-09-15 23:30:24,,,Anonymous,Reminder.jpg,cpfo4W+OnXz9KeMkg3rEWQ==,US,,1505518224 141706410,141707034,2017-09-15 23:31:03,,,Anonymous,Equality.jpg,RGetp9fMgQK1sDndguegtg==,US,,1505518263 141706410,141707148,2017-09-15 23:31:58,,,Anonymous,Open Borders 2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1505518318 141706410,141707201,2017-09-15 23:32:27,,,Anonymous,Democracy.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,US,,1505518347 141706410,141707265,2017-09-15 23:32:58,,,Anonymous,Democracy Quote.jpg,J0O9phpNEONchjuRLQIS7w==,US,,1505518378 141706410,141707317,2017-09-15 23:33:33,,,Anonymous,Socialist Quote.jpg,JAxwYC7ARKlyd1s4OfFYCw==,US,,1505518413 141706410,141707392,2017-09-15 23:34:16,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy is Authoritarian.png,m+vq+HJQ/+rO+jmc2VaEkA==,US,,1505518456 141706410,141707575,2017-09-15 23:35:47,,,Anonymous,They Have to be Removed.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1505518547 141706410,141707679,2017-09-15 23:36:44,,,Anonymous,Born To Remove.png,yp/6grI6jZPtJVzq6PmGlw==,US,,1505518604 141706410,141707702,2017-09-15 23:36:56,,,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,,,1505518616 141706410,141707764,2017-09-15 23:37:28,,,Anonymous,Admit One.png,IpAOZsk5ucyz6OGHMbUl1w==,US,,1505518648 141706410,141707870,2017-09-15 23:38:21,,,Anonymous,Libertarian Frogs.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1505518701 141706410,141708059,2017-09-15 23:40:02,,,Anonymous,Rothbard Quote.jpg,R/HF0mR8BcBvFjUdhsRN1A==,US,,1505518802 141706410,141708123,2017-09-15 23:40:36,">>141706410 >Libertarian >Not supporting private ownership of government",,Anonymous,Monarchy.jpg,0ulhLhVDkILj6k58TSnXBg==,US,,1505518836 141706410,141708585,2017-09-15 23:45:01,,,Anonymous,1504751678939.png,A8IWad9FhR0nfRW3O0zn1w==,,,1505519101 141706410,141708818,2017-09-15 23:47:10,,,Anonymous,1504358298886.png,x1NvQpy0XWijI1EvzzhdUg==,,,1505519230 141706410,141708954,2017-09-15 23:48:36,>>141706410,,Anonymous,1505519687305.jpg,Sd/f2l1+5YP825XuqJLEGg==,US,,1505519316 141706410,141709198,2017-09-15 23:50:58,">>141706410 >/lrg/ >libertarian retard general",,Anonymous,1505353411345.png,zgUjPINdbUPr0OMWG4yq2A==,US,,1505519458 141706410,141709295,2017-09-15 23:52:04,"whatcha guys think of Reason TV? I don't watch much, but I caught some lately and they seem to be trying to appeal to wider audiences with humor and whatnot",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505519524 141706410,141709411,2017-09-15 23:53:08,">>141709198 Great argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505519588 141706410,141709492,2017-09-15 23:53:58,">>141709295 Reason TV is leftist garbage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505519638 141706410,141710178,2017-09-16 00:00:35,">>141706410 So good place as any. What would you think of a nationalist libertarian society of workers? The Lion party. A movement to demand Liberty In Our Nation. Militant libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505520035 141706410,141710194,2017-09-16 00:00:48,">>141706410 Gadsden, the man who invented the ""don't tread on me"" flag gave it to the secretary of the navy to use as a battle standard on his ship. Stop using it as a sign of libertarianism you fucking clueless douche bag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505520048 141706410,141710869,2017-09-16 00:07:55,,,Anonymous,1488735983269.jpg,Ik15Df9sfv94LUuyrOvR0w==,,,1505520475 141706410,141711952,2017-09-16 00:19:15,,,Anonymous,1504559359634.jpg,0RNyhCnx0WBlV8xYi0A6QA==,,,1505521155 141706410,141712723,2017-09-16 00:27:03,,,Anonymous,1503625194356.png,ndRME9G16YQ9FBjH8h3wVA==,,,1505521623 141706410,141713590,2017-09-16 00:36:26,">>141710194 history is oppressing me reeeeeeeeee",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505522186 141706410,141713880,2017-09-16 00:39:40,">>141710194 So I am pretty sure at that time in our nation we were fascist libertarians. We had something to prove. I think we need to prove to our government again that the sovereign wants to be left alone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505522380 141706410,141713882,2017-09-16 00:39:42,,,Anonymous,1488735414541.jpg,gjm5N12fS0kVmkLiORWcKw==,,,1505522382 141706410,141714338,2017-09-16 00:44:40,,,Anonymous,1504927926491.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,,,1505522680 141706410,141714883,2017-09-16 00:50:13,,,Anonymous,1491990228931.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,,,1505523013 141706410,141714892,2017-09-16 00:50:19,">>141710194 It's largely associated as a revolutionary flag, which matches the anti-federalist rhetoric of the libertarians.",,Anonymous,eJwVyEEOgyAQAMC_8ADWFYqs98Z74wcIEiRRl8D21PTvtnOcj3q3Q81qF6l9BthKj9w23YVbyEln5nykUEvXkU8IIiHuZ7qkg0EzjnaaHD0IDTpL__ID_SASDd47C4u8ytqeul5ZfW8EDCJo.png,8vGC3cVjaOmUEzAChC3Whg==,,,1505523019 141706410,141715299,2017-09-16 00:54:26,,,Anonymous,7_162015_paul8201.jpg,EFPxjFfXiMc7AHv+v8D8IQ==,,,1505523266 141866554,141866554,2017-09-17 09:39:41,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Badge.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,,,1505641181 141866554,141866633,2017-09-17 09:40:35,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1505641235 141866554,141866663,2017-09-17 09:41:01,">Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism, Invented by jews, ect ect. STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.",,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1505641261 141866554,141866811,2017-09-17 09:42:54,">muh libertarianism is all about promoting drug use and anal sex. Again this is cultural marxist bullshit, a narrative given to the (((libertarian party))) pushed by all the zog'd ""libertarian"" interest groups.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1505641374 141866554,141866904,2017-09-17 09:43:59,"I m some what new to libertarianism, so what is the view in the community on trump ?",,Anonymous,tanstaafl.png,38IAX1DOwEQmNxp5jUHX3Q==,,,1505641439 141866554,141867067,2017-09-17 09:46:05,">>141866904 Trump is good in the sense that he will slow the elites to further his own personal agenda. But no elected politician will take us to the land of sugar and milk. they are all servants to the state in the end. Voting will never make america libertarian again.",,Anonymous,Means_To_Liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1505641565 141866554,141867221,2017-09-17 09:47:54,">>141867067 so what would make america libertarian again?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505641674 141866554,141867470,2017-09-17 09:51:03,">>141867221 I highly doubt the whole of America can be saved. the best course of action in my opinion is to break up America, secession through political means if possible, but ultimately through armed struggle.",,Anonymous,ourguy.jpg,wpsmZiRjEv9D3ipZTNJpwA==,,,1505641863 141866554,141867696,2017-09-17 09:53:56,">>141867470 >armed struggle against the state ? is this justification not the same argument the lefties (antifa) uses ?",,Anonymous,1505255633946.png,TBsPZ6k/z1u7BzCo3v9Rtg==,,,1505642036 141866554,141867832,2017-09-17 09:55:43,"Good to see you actual libtards instead of the antifa faggots for once. t. Fascfaggot",,Anonymous,1505313998784.jpg,PE9qZFLEu+2Xc5TKOYd8kQ==,US,,1505642143 141866554,141867992,2017-09-17 09:57:40,">>141867696 Yes. it is the same in that we both know the state is abusive. The difference is that they ""attack the state"" by throwing rocks at windows in attempt to bring an even more abusive socialist goverment into power, and we'd defend ourselves from the state by standing our ground so that we may determine our own destiny and preserve our way of life.",,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1505642260 141866554,141868269,2017-09-17 10:01:03,">>141867832 the antifa communists are a far greater threat to our liberty than you. Consider us friends until we cross swords in the end. We all must unite against the Communists.",,Anonymous,JOINorDIE.png,oiYCO1RyZCo3cpouSdC6dA==,,,1505642463 141866554,141868373,2017-09-17 10:02:07,">>141867992 would violence against the state be justified in the US at the moment or at what point would it be justified ?",,Anonymous,Caspar_David_Friedrich_-_Wanderer_above_the_sea_of_fog.jpg,2iXKBzTJipgirkXiWHzPtw==,,,1505642527 141866554,141868608,2017-09-17 10:05:11,">>141868373 We are far past the point of no return, far beyond a state of ""1984"". A case for revolution could have been made long before I was born.",,Anonymous,Cold-War-Ads-The-Red-Menace.jpg,WtSIgmVj4PvlxoftFg3Wyg==,,,1505642711 141866554,141868822,2017-09-17 10:07:38,">>141868608 i dont think i agree with you. Isnt one of the prime principals of libertarians the nap ? In effect you advocate for violence.",,Anonymous,91og4Jniz+L.jpg,2AayYw35jT+4UG+5hmVSPw==,,,1505642858 141866554,141869168,2017-09-17 10:12:01,">>141868822 And you believe that that state has not aggressed upon us? Do you honestly believe the relationship we have with our goverment is that of voluntary exchange? Do you believe that by virtue of 51% of the population voting for our enslavement means that we've agreed to this? I for one whole-heartedly disagree. I did NOT pledge allegiance to the welfare states of america.",,Anonymous,mcv (4).png,9QVpGpzN3YUOpjs9GgplDA==,,,1505643121 141866554,141869704,2017-09-17 10:18:52,">>141869168 >And you believe that that state has not aggressed upon us? I agree with you on the facts just not the use of violience at the present. >Do you honestly believe the relationship we have with our goverment is that of voluntary exchange? Not at all. I live in the EU and its a true nightmare without my consent. >Do you believe that by virtue of 51% of the population voting for our enslavement means that we've agreed to this? Nope, but violence isnt the way to go, at the moment. I dont say that one never can use violence but right now, no. There is still the political option.",,Anonymous,y_mishima_by_tootalltony (1).jpg,++N1Vz3TFFx+Pf4AcXB/ow==,,,1505643532 141866554,141869978,2017-09-17 10:22:18,"There is a popular ultimatum that is proposed towards right-wing libertarians, mainly the ones that favor Friedman or Austrian market economics; Either society ascends to a monarchy, or it withers and compiles a solution by a forced state of anarchistic violence. It's facetious, I know. But please enlighten me if possible; Do Right-Wing Libertarians, or Rothbardian/Hoppean Anarcho-Capitalists, see the reality of an eventual monarchy, to be a fitting redemption to the cycle of dismay since common democracy cut a tear in society?",,Anonymous,GLORY.jpg,L+BT6wyLuHVRQMwqDq/Vww==,AU,,1505643738 141866554,141870109,2017-09-17 10:23:52,">>141869704 So you agree that we would be the defenders, not the aggressors right? Anyway good luck legislating your liberty back. While I would support any libertarian-ish public policy or political movement I highly doubt we'll get far against the masses of socialist voters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505643832 141866554,141870136,2017-09-17 10:24:09,">>141866554 Hiel, step-brothers. >jkjk",,Anonymous,1505417373693.png,7ksRS6OhvO6zuOpX9E/Tyw==,,,1505643849 141866554,141870322,2017-09-17 10:26:16,">>141870109 >So you agree that we would be the defenders, not the aggressors right? yeah >Anyway good luck legislating your liberty back. I dont know if it is possible but violence? Aimed against who? Trump since he is at the head of the state?",,Anonymous,capitalism-ohio.jpg,1FZnVxzLHprX+BtoRZGtAg==,,,1505643976 141866554,141870329,2017-09-17 10:26:21,">>141870136 erp! >only other one I feel comfortable using, US geo",,Anonymous,,,,,1505643981 141866554,141870554,2017-09-17 10:29:14,">>141869704 >that post >that image beyond retarded",,Anonymous,1476573490934.jpg,k1LeLpB+bDKTwCXSuB8/Lg==,NL,,1505644154 141866554,141870591,2017-09-17 10:29:40,">>141869978 I have never been a monarchist, and I've never been a democrat. Neither is my preference. but perhaps it may be easier to secceed from a democratic state being that the state has the task of justifiying violence against some people who have done no harm other than leaving the union. It may be harder for the democratic state to convince normalfags to START a civil war on their own soil.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505644180 141866554,141870592,2017-09-17 10:29:41,">>141870554 nice argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1505644181 141866554,141870654,2017-09-17 10:30:31,">>141870592 your posts and mishima's thoughts litteraly contradict eachother",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505644231 141866554,141870706,2017-09-17 10:31:09,">>141870322 Against anyone who comes to take our land from us and enslave us or tax us. If no one comes then there would be no violence. I hope for this outcome, but I doubt it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505644269 141866554,141870818,2017-09-17 10:32:30,">libertarian >right worst meme",,Anonymous,76vQo.gif,Rb9tGMrOwnToLJV2uu3dRQ==,NL,,1505644350 141866554,141870947,2017-09-17 10:33:59,"socialism is literally destroying my fucking country. Keep up the good fight boys",,Anonymous,HOPPE.jpg,QLIUZ26a1MH/Uo1nSn8nPw==,GB,,1505644439 141866554,141870980,2017-09-17 10:34:21,">>141870818 Hello again, mussolini posting guy again, right?",,Anonymous,RR (9).png,dEapXAOEYwVjqEWTW5vyxg==,,,1505644461 141866554,141870984,2017-09-17 10:34:23,">>141870654 so? I don't agree with everything he wrote. He had some very strange ideas. He always thought and wrote about death but when he had his chance to serve in ww2 he lied. One could make the case that he was coward for most of his live.",,Anonymous,15678468541845617415631.jpg,CwOfSkaNfx9ADlYIKYwqCw==,,,1505644463 141866554,141871224,2017-09-17 10:37:12,">>141870592 He as a point but I feel people shouldnt be made to uphold it AND be held to it, I am an individual.",,Anonymous,1505411344268.jpg,KswR5jP0NXRPgRDgR4VbJQ==,,,1505644632 141866554,141871431,2017-09-17 10:39:46,">>141870706 >anyone who comes to take our land from us and enslave us or tax us So bombing the IRS would not be an act of aggression but an act of self defense ? In principal i agree with you but in practice i dont. There has to be a better way. Violence is not a good way to generate PR.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505644786 141866554,141871559,2017-09-17 10:41:29,"The libertarian used to be all about freedom, now it's all about killing commies. You have forgotten the NAP, this it's shameful.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1505644889 141866554,141871774,2017-09-17 10:44:07,">>141871431 PR? We're already being called fascists and villans of society by the news and social media brainwashing. I choose to speak the truth because I will be always labeled as evil. Only the message of TOTAL REVOLUTION can virtue signal to those brave enough to side with us. theres no use in spreading the message of ""look how nice and complaint with the system we are""",,Anonymous,,,,,1505645047 141866554,141871826,2017-09-17 10:44:48,">>141871559 It's a shame you're so blind to the aggression of todays world against us.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1505645088 141866554,141871828,2017-09-17 10:44:47,">>141871559 That's false. Commie killing has largely been propagated by fascists and authoritarian rights who misconstrue Hoppe's work to attempt to justify killing commies. What Hoppe proposes with physical removal is not throwing communists out of helicopters but simply evicting them from your private property or covenant community.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505645087 141866554,141872407,2017-09-17 10:51:39,">>141871559 I thought that the NAP was derived from work in the radical sector related to Hoppe, Rand and Rothbard? When did people begin to conflate anarcho-capitalist preferences with a little bit of Austrian charm and guns to protect the nuclear family?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505645499 141866554,141872429,2017-09-17 10:51:55,">see masked men trying enter your house >call private security because you cannot outshoot them >explain situation >""sir what is your client number"" ""w-what, help me im going to die. My McSecurity subscription ran out last month, i spent everything on redecorating my loli rape dungeon"" >""sir we can work someyhing out. It will set yiu back 300 thousand dollars"" ""yea sure whatever"" *5 minutes later* >""sir it seems your neighbor is asleep and nobdy is operating his toll road. Im afraid we can not come to your aid"" beep beep beep beep >>141870984 his books were released post-war",,Anonymous,1475474227420.png,NXJU4Ru7i0Jk0auHxJUdWA==,NL,,1505645515 141866554,141872695,2017-09-17 10:55:22,">>141871828 >>141872407 I justify killing commies because they are a vicious threat to our property and freedom. They are no better than the state. I give no credit to Hoppe or Rothbard for the reasons I have come to this conclusion. Although I do very much like them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505645722 141866554,141872955,2017-09-17 10:58:25,">>141872429 >his books were released post-war I know that. The argument i was trying to make was just that for someone who always fantasied about blowing up like a rocket in the sky, lying when examined during ww2 is quite hypocritical. In his writing he ""denied"" the will to life but his body thought otherwise. He redeemed himself in the end though but it took him long enough. >>141871774 >I choose to speak the truth but do you act on it ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505645905 141866554,141873087,2017-09-17 10:59:51,">>141872955 Don't ask me that over the internet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505645991 141866554,141873440,2017-09-17 11:04:11,Redpill me on libertarianism,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1505646251 141866554,141873515,2017-09-17 11:05:08,">>141873087 the answer is no or other wise you would be in prison for terrorism. You havent bombed the IRS, which, based on your comments would be justifed. You sound like a commie >TOTAL REVOLUTION >violence",,Anonymous,,,,,1505646308 141866554,141873545,2017-09-17 11:05:25,">>141873440 >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state",,Anonymous,,,,,1505646325 141866554,141873662,2017-09-17 11:06:48,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505646408 141866554,141873699,2017-09-17 11:07:14,">>141873515 Obviously I haven't bombed the IRS, you brought that up. I never said anything of the sort. I am talking about defense of my body and my family.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505646434 141866554,141873933,2017-09-17 11:10:00,">>141873699 you are right, i brought it up but since you advocate for violence because you are taxed bombing the IRS would be only logical,no ? what plan of action would you propose to further the libertarian agenda beside violence?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505646600 141866554,141874366,2017-09-17 11:15:07,">>141873933 I still stand by my previous statements. you're mistaken in assuming I'm talking about going out of my way to assassinate the president or blow up the IRS. Secession from the union is the only way. Do you think the founding fathers after declaring their independance went on ships to go fight the king? No, they stood their ground and fought untill they were left alone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505646907 141866554,141875559,2017-09-17 11:28:32,">>141871826 Easy version for illiterate babbies",,Anonymous,communism is violence.jpg,65OXxrD1l3bJnGhvqFuLig==,,,1505647712 141866554,141875614,2017-09-17 11:29:09,">>141875559 this too",,Anonymous,communism is a threat.png,Cy1MSoRj2WJ1rtGgvuSLbQ==,,,1505647749 141866554,141875892,2017-09-17 11:32:26,">>141866554 So here's a question: If libertarianism is so good, then how come there has never been a truly libertarian contry?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505647946 141866554,141876005,2017-09-17 11:33:44,">>141875892 >what is somalia",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505648024 141866554,141876052,2017-09-17 11:34:11,">>141875892 If Betamax is so good how come VHS won?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505648051 141866554,141876350,2017-09-17 11:37:40,">>141875892 PS How would a post-statist society prevent the rebirth of the state?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505648260 141866554,141876503,2017-09-17 11:39:35,">>141876350 War, revolution. its a cycle of self-determination.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505648375 141866554,141876559,2017-09-17 11:40:10,">>141876052 Are you seriously comparing media formats and government types?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505648410 141866554,141876604,2017-09-17 11:40:45,"So apparently there's a video of your hero beating his meat. How do you feel about that?",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann-Hoppe.jpg,9oYfzoaM1h0laAcSL4AKwQ==,DE,,1505648445 141866554,141876658,2017-09-17 11:41:18,">>141876604 pls post.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505648478 141866554,141876918,2017-09-17 11:44:14,">>141876503 Troughout human history there has practically never been a period of statelesnes, implying that a libertarian order could not maintain itself spontaneously.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505648654 141866554,141877027,2017-09-17 11:45:34,">>141875892 Most people are evil and/or do not like freedom. >>141876350 Physically remove and/or kill any statist racketeers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505648734 141866554,141877319,2017-09-17 11:48:38,">>141876658 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YQQRxiVXg",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1505648918 141866554,141877512,2017-09-17 11:50:38,">>141877027 Doesn't that mean that libertarianism is incompatable with human nature? How do you make a distinction between organised enough private property and a state eg. megacorps?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505649038 141866554,141877600,2017-09-17 11:51:43,">>141876918 If people truly choose a state then that would be an example of what we consider a non-statist society. self-determination is the true goal of libertarianism, not an abstract sense of freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505649103 141866554,141877642,2017-09-17 11:52:07,">>141877319 kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1505649127 141866554,141877837,2017-09-17 11:54:14,">>141877512 Man's nature it to recognize property. every man knows theft when he sees it and it isn't murkied by the states propaganda. Libertarianism is the description of mans natural tastebuds of morality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505649254 141866554,141878007,2017-09-17 11:56:17,Voluntaryism > anarcho-capitalism,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505649377 141866554,141878023,2017-09-17 11:56:27,">>141877600 Aren't most countries nowadays non-statist then, after all you are free to leave.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505649387 141866554,141878135,2017-09-17 11:57:52,">>141878007 >Voluntaryism = anarcho-capitalism ftfy",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1505649472 141866554,141878286,2017-09-17 11:59:20,">>141877837 Shared aka public property is also an inherent quality of man, most likely even more so than private.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505649560 141866554,141878319,2017-09-17 11:59:47,">>141878135 They're compatible, but not the same",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505649587 141866554,141878337,2017-09-17 12:00:03,">>141876918 You mean like Iceland? Iceland from 900AD-1260AD had no state, no king, and no lords. It was literally a purely free market system with private courts, private police, and private chiefs (ie. landowners that people rented land from) who acted as leaders. Or the Xeer legal system of the horn of Africa, which have private courts, insurance providers, and private security firms despite being iron-age primitives? Or you know, the 98% of human history that encompasses the neolithic and paleolithic periods?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505649603 141866554,141878347,2017-09-17 12:00:12,">>141878023 Are you free to live on property you own and maintain unmolested by the state or having to be uprooted from land that is rightfully your property? Can you Opt out of your contract without being violated? The answer is no. They will come and take from you regardless.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505649612 141866554,141878492,2017-09-17 12:01:54,">>141878286 sure convenants are a thing, people voluntarily choose to make a contract to share property. this however only stems from private property as that private agent must choose to use his property for such a cause.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505649714 141866554,141878665,2017-09-17 12:04:08,">>141878337 Also 98% of human behaviour. Most things we do are voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505649848 141866554,141878729,2017-09-17 12:04:54,">>141877512 >Doesn't that mean that libertarianism is incompatible with human nature? Yes, libertarianism is incompatible with a majority of humans, but this does not discomfort me as much as it used to. Most humans are not that smart, hence they require/desire a nanny state to help them out. I would have no problem with those people, except that they believe *everyone* should be subject to their states, voluntarily or not. >How do you make a distinction between organized enough private property and a state eg. megacorps? A state is coercive, and must remain coercive to survive. A voluntary society where citizens respect the property rights of others is not coercive, since any violent action is in defense of those same property rights and not for coercion. >>141878023 It's not as easy as you may think. Renunciation of citizenship comes with a fee, a tax, extensive procedures/interviews/paperwork, and so on, so it's a very long and expensive process. If you choose to leave without doing that, they can come after you for tax evasion and such (since you're still counted as a citizen and are required to pay taxes). The only places they can't touch you are countries with no extradition treaties, which are typically not the best places to escape to if you're trying to leave.",,Anonymous,iq_bell_curve.gif,7vhtHIVNqfRmAjqkRxh3aA==,,,1505649894 141866554,141879611,2017-09-17 12:15:11,bump,,Anonymous,RightWingPopulism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1505650511 141866554,141880076,2017-09-17 12:20:58,">>141878337 Just because someting works in a non-developed and sparsely populated society does not mean that it can work in our contemporary society. This could even be interpreted as evidence against libertarianism, as these systems were later inevitably replaced by more centralised ones.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505650858 141866554,141880358,2017-09-17 12:24:27,">>141878347 In this context the state can be regarded as the property owner, or you can be regarded as the owner but under a government contract.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505651067 141866554,141880696,2017-09-17 12:29:00,">>141880358 how did the government gain ownership of the property",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505651340 141866554,141880829,2017-09-17 12:30:48,">>141878729 Is it not a sign of a poor system if you have to assume that everybody under it is smart. How do you prevent regression towards the mean, and who will do all the low iq jobs? What is the difference between a megacorp that has a monopoly in a plot of land and a state? To my understanding that last bit only applies to the us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505651448 141866554,141881093,2017-09-17 12:33:54,">>141880696 How did anybody gain ownership of any property? Most likely through common agreement or the right of might.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505651634 141866554,141881122,2017-09-17 12:34:17,">>141880358 the state has no legitimate claim to my body and my home. It maintains its territorial monopoly by violence and theft of the true property owners.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505651657 141866554,141881198,2017-09-17 12:35:17,">>141881093 You dont understand what private property is if you believe the ""right of might"" is what determines its validity",,Anonymous,,,,,1505651717 141866554,141881531,2017-09-17 12:39:04,">>141881093 initially it's first come first serve. whoever found it first can be the rightful owner. do you think the government found and used literally all the land first? no, the government gained ownership of the land through conquest and force, which makes it illegitimate.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1505651944 141866554,141881720,2017-09-17 12:41:17,">>141871559 NAP doesn't apply to commies, they reject the concept of individual sovereignty and must be removed lest they get the opportunity to act on that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505652077 141866554,141881724,2017-09-17 12:41:18,">>141880829 >Is it not a sign of a poor system if you have to assume that everybody under it is smart. How do you prevent regression towards the mean, and who will do all the low iq jobs? You make a fair point. Perhaps I am being a little over-dramatic in asserting that low IQ people wouldn't function in an anarchist society. That said, I wouldn't discount the idea of simply importing the products/services of low IQ jobs, or just automating those. Regression towards the mean is a tougher problem, because while I've seen evidence that IQ is genetic, it's not a completely reliable pattern. >What is the difference between a megacorp that has a monopoly in a plot of land and a state? A state is coercive. A megacorp can only maintain its monopoly by satisfying all its renters to such an extent that no other firm could hope to compete. Such a level of customer-satisfaction is incredibly costly to maintain, of course, so that corporation would either have to lower its standards or raise its prices, either of which would invite competition and undo the monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505652078 141866554,141881834,2017-09-17 12:42:45,">>141881720 it does apply to commies, they just violate it by advocating the abolishion of private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505652165 141866554,141882080,2017-09-17 12:45:23,Reminder.,,Anonymous,the problem with libertarians.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,NZ,,1505652323 141866554,141882174,2017-09-17 12:46:29,">>141881122 You choose to live within the states legistilative propery.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505652389 141866554,141882241,2017-09-17 12:47:24,">>141882174 >the states legistilative propery. meaningless legal jargon. They rightfully own nothing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505652444 141866554,141882298,2017-09-17 12:47:56,">>141881531 If we take that stance then most property is illegitimate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505652476 141866554,141882348,2017-09-17 12:48:29,">>141882080 >Reminder. No one cares.",,Anonymous,1505331294123.png,13GT4DAU1XZfCZSfywoeSg==,,,1505652509 141866554,141882503,2017-09-17 12:50:22,Eagerly waiting for the PFS's YouTube to drop the new videos.,,Anonymous,,,,,1505652622 141866554,141882774,2017-09-17 12:53:29,">>141881724 How is the state more coercive than a megacorporation? Eg. you live within the corp so you follow its rules vs. you live within the state so you follow its rules. Also you'll find automation to be far more difficult than that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505652809 141866554,141883023,2017-09-17 12:56:14,">>141882241 How do you determine the rightful owner?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505652974 141866554,141883375,2017-09-17 13:00:08,">>141882080 Great read. Saved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505653208 141866554,141884127,2017-09-17 13:08:07,">>141883023 Originally, homesteading. Using your labor to transform and settle the natural land. The state has not done this. They ""own"" land by murdering those who say they don't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505653687 141866554,141884290,2017-09-17 13:09:56,">>141878337 >Or you know, the 98% of human history that encompasses the neolithic and paleolithic periods? reminder that is where ancaps and lolbertarians want to send us back to",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505653796 141866554,141884459,2017-09-17 13:11:40,">>141875559 >Pinochet >Libertarian I guess authoritarianism is cool if you worship capitalism right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505653900 141866554,141884981,2017-09-17 13:17:03,">>141884459 Yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505654223 141866554,141885610,2017-09-17 13:23:28,">>141884981 Hi there Schlomo",,Anonymous,dont-t-s2.jpg,MbWQYFV13EnGQgattr7Zxg==,,,1505654608 141866554,141886068,2017-09-17 13:27:58,"Isn't this thread, i.e. property and borders, a/the subject of the horror film ""mother!"" that just came out?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505654878 141866554,141887203,2017-09-17 13:39:06,">>141870322 There's still every level of government in-between him. He's been for state's rights and states have opposed the federal government. State and local levels of government are key.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505655546 141866554,141887231,2017-09-17 13:39:25,">>141885610 Hi there Tankie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505655565 141866554,141887711,2017-09-17 13:44:32,">>141866554 Just read Anatomy of the State and it was pretty great. What book should I read next? I'm thinking of reading some Hoppe, particularly Democracy, the God that Failed.",,Anonymous,McGas2.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,,,1505655872 141866554,141887983,2017-09-17 13:47:18,">>141867832 >>141868269 I agree. Libertarians have far more in common with Nationalists and Traditionalists than today's ""liberals"". We must put aside our few differences in order to destroy Cultural Marxism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505656038 141866554,141888102,2017-09-17 13:48:35,">>141887711 As long as you're reading Rothbard, you should check out his various essays; Race, Right Wing Populism, and Big Government Libertarians are some of my old time favorites. Democracy is a splendid read too, do read it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505656115 141866554,141888159,2017-09-17 13:49:03,Where are the PFS uploads?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1505656143 141866554,141888233,2017-09-17 13:49:52,">>141866554 What do you guys think of National Socialism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505656192 141866554,141888645,2017-09-17 13:54:01,">>141866554 DONT LET IT SLIDE DON'T LET THIS SLIDE GUYS >>141877892 >>141877892 >>141877892 >>141877892 >>141877892 GO GO GO >>141877892 >>141877892 >>141877892 >>141877892",,Anonymous,,,,,1505656441 141866554,141888796,2017-09-17 13:55:32,">>141888233 Good intent, often bad methodology. there's some national socialists like GLR I admire, but I very much dislike the circa 1930's NSDAP model.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505656532 141866554,141888901,2017-09-17 13:56:40,">>141888159 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNHAsCPp3tfbV3O3t7RxYMA/videos",,Anonymous,,,,,1505656600 141866554,141888920,2017-09-17 13:56:49,">>141882080 You're forgetting that most dindus, commies, and mudslimes will either not be allowed onto private property (and die to natural selection) or not receive taxpayer welfare (and die to natural selection). So nice try.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505656609 141866554,141889047,2017-09-17 13:58:17,">>141888102 Thanks.",,Anonymous,BAN.jpg,t2MfNcSIy8WIpg34Sj4teA==,,,1505656697 141866554,141889055,2017-09-17 13:58:23,">>141888901 meant those from the one going on this weekend",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1505656703 141866554,141889445,2017-09-17 14:02:29,">>141888233 Nationalism is good (and extremely compatible with libertarianism, despite what others might tell you) but natsoc mixed-economics is still mediocre at best. Remember, Hitler was extremely ignorant of economics, and it shows when looking at the natsoc platform. However, National Socialists are miles better than leftists, so I still welcome them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505656949 141866554,141889508,2017-09-17 14:03:08,">>141888796 >but I very much dislike the circa 1930's NSDAP model Any reason why? Germany was an economic powerhouse post election with Hitler at the helm. The people were happy, unemployment hit rock bottom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505656988 141866554,141890802,2017-09-17 14:16:38,">>141889508 I understand why it was centralized in the way it was because of the times and events, but Id prefer a much more proprietor oriented society. It never came close to representing the ideal, but it didn't suck to live there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505657798 141866554,141891291,2017-09-17 14:21:41,">>141866663 GTFO",,Anonymous,04e6f068c46a8684934c672dd7d8da1e442cc-wm.png,fwnfERF49SGh7ml2BiM6bw==,,,1505658101 141866554,141891452,2017-09-17 14:23:15,Austrian economics is a joke. It only appeals to high school dropout retards who are too dumb to understand the mathematical modeling and econometric analysis in neoclassical economics.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658195 141866554,141891532,2017-09-17 14:24:02,">>141866554 >libertarian right general Is this a new meme I've seen tgis thread the last couple of days and I have to wonder why does right need to be added to the title?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505658242 141866554,141891642,2017-09-17 14:25:11,">>141889445 >libertarians literally welcoming Nazi's This is the problem with right-wing pseudo-libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658311 141866554,141891703,2017-09-17 14:25:42,">>141891532 Because leftists love calling themselves Libertarians and preaching their faggot agenda.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658342 141866554,141891785,2017-09-17 14:26:26,">>141887711 Avoid Rothbard's 90s right-wing populist retardation. ""Paleo-libertarianism"" is cancer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658386 141866554,141891854,2017-09-17 14:27:04,">>141891703 Sounds just like right-wing fake libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658424 141866554,141891918,2017-09-17 14:27:42,">>141891642 >>141891785 Leftist faggot ""(((Libertarian)))"" detected. 90's Rothbard is best Rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658462 141866554,141891930,2017-09-17 14:27:50,">>141891703 I've never heard a leftist refer to themselves as a libertarian. I have heard themselves refer to themselves as anarchist. Libertarianism is a well established right wing ideology. Adding ""right"" to the title just makes OP seem like an idiot.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505658470 141866554,141892005,2017-09-17 14:28:40,">>141891918 How am I in any way ""leftist"" (whatever that means)?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658520 141866554,141892053,2017-09-17 14:29:12,">>141891930 See this poster >>141891854 >>141891785 >>141891642 This is why we're calling our self right Libertarians, so we don't have to be associated with these kiddies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658552 141866554,141892228,2017-09-17 14:30:57,">>141892005 You're a cultural Marxist who rabidly counter signals anything slightly conservative in it's values. I believe we've talked before.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658657 141866554,141892245,2017-09-17 14:31:06,">>141892053 But associating with Nazi's is a-okay with you pseudo-libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658666 141866554,141892265,2017-09-17 14:31:20,Howard Stern's phone number is $6314951073$ without the $'s,,Joey Jackal,,,GB,,1505658680 141866554,141892388,2017-09-17 14:32:40,">>141892053 But they're right. Authoritarian control over any aspect of a libertarian society is not libertarian thus your ideology is in fact more like what Nazbol is to communism. So you have created the form of libertarianism that can actually exist. Well done. Have you realised that it is actually feudalism or are you still getting to that point.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505658760 141866554,141892391,2017-09-17 14:32:42,">>141892228 I'm not a cultural Marxist (if that is actually a thing). Why do you assume that I'm such a thing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658762 141866554,141892583,2017-09-17 14:34:49,">>141891930 >>141892053 Also check Bernie Sanders' supporters. A lot of them refer to themselves as ""left libertarians"" so they can try to be less commie and more mainstream, but still trying to not be mainstream.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505658889 141866554,141892766,2017-09-17 14:36:43,">>141877319 kek, you had me scared for a moment",,Anonymous,,,,,1505659003 141866554,141892899,2017-09-17 14:37:53,">>141892583 >Also check Bernie Sanders' supporters. A lot of them refer to themselves as ""left libertarians"" so they can try to be less commie and more mainstream, but still trying to not be mainstream. Burgers mince political words all the time you cunts bastardised the word liberal. I really couldnt give a fuck what your political groups label themselves as, Bernie is a socialist his actions speak louder than any retarded label he gives himself.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505659073 141866554,141892926,2017-09-17 14:38:10,"Post some good audio books on youtube. I always sleep good too audiobooks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505659090 141866554,141893066,2017-09-17 14:39:45,">>141867992 All of that is pretty solid but if you're still believing in the fairy tale of religion then you are being controlled.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505659185 141866554,141893248,2017-09-17 14:41:39,">>141892926 How about learning actual economics and political philosophy instead of crackpot Hoppean junk?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505659299 141866554,141893607,2017-09-17 14:45:00,">>141892245 You reject free association and call yourself a Libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505659500 141866554,141893765,2017-09-17 14:46:48,">>141892391 >If it's actually a thing Fuck off you libertine scum.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505659608 141866554,141893774,2017-09-17 14:46:49,">>141893607 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505659609 141866554,141893906,2017-09-17 14:48:14,">>141892388 I'm not talking about authoritarian control. I'm taking about genuine voluntary contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505659694 141866554,141894068,2017-09-17 14:50:02,">>141866554 >PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace does not sound too laissez-faire to me. u sure u know how 2 libertarian anon?",,Anonymous,,,TH,,1505659802 141866554,141894097,2017-09-17 14:50:16,">>141893774 And how are the words being used in different senses. Association is association. Deal with it faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505659816 141866554,141894146,2017-09-17 14:50:47,>>141894068,,Anonymous,1504132663960.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1505659847 141866554,141894273,2017-09-17 14:52:03,">>141866663 >STOP GLOBALISM But if everything can just be bought the globalists will take over from day one after the revolution?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505659923 141866554,141894279,2017-09-17 14:52:09,">>141882774 A state sends in guns to make you buy its goods/services, and to shut down competitors. A megacorporation offers those same goods and services, and attempts to buy out competitors, but it is not coercive (hence its hold on a monopoly is tenuous at best). A mega-corporation that engages in coercion stops being a corporation and becomes a state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505659929 141866554,141894469,2017-09-17 14:54:08,">>141894097 I think people should be legally permitted to associate with Nazi's. That doesn't mean I can't disagree with your choices. What you're saying is like saying, ""If you disagree with leftists, you're not a libertarian because you don't respect free speech"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505660048 141866554,141894516,2017-09-17 14:54:43,">>141894279 >A mega-corporation that engages in coercion stops being a corporation and becomes a state. what does this even mean?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505660083 141866554,141894824,2017-09-17 14:57:46,">>141882080 >keeps posting the same shitty pasta",,Anonymous,being an ancap on :pol:.jpg,E/NJP+utAVenRcD/jpLhPw==,,,1505660266 141866554,141894835,2017-09-17 14:57:54,">>141894273 Buy what? All the land with their worthless fed-bucks?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505660274 141866554,141894957,2017-09-17 14:59:00,">>141894835 So how does one purchase land? Are you going to dump commodities too?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505660340 141866554,141895041,2017-09-17 14:59:50,">>141894469 Disagree all you want, /lrg/ is for right wing Libertarians. There's plenty of Libertarian spaces elsewhere for you to promote drug use and and degeneracy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505660390 141866554,141895120,2017-09-17 15:00:27,">>141894824 Nice, saved. A much nicer version.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505660427 141866554,141895153,2017-09-17 15:00:47,">>141893906 >genuine voluntary contract If I genuinely am homeless and starving and approach an employer and enter voluntarily into a contract with for housing on his land and employment on his fields too produce his crops and he takes a portion of my pay (most of it) as per our agreement, to cover my rent. Also as per agreement I'm am also obligated to defend his property if it is attacked by a competitor? What else am I but a serf. My employer is actually a contractor to a larger organisation the land that he controls is actually leased to him from this larger organisation. This organisation is headed by the CEO and has several of these of these lease type agreements with various people. The contract conditions are the rent must be paid on the land and if the larger organisation is attacked by a competitor then the lease holding employers must send people to defend the large organisation. What are these employers if not nobles and the CEO if not king. And the large organisation clearly the kingdom. It's fucking feudalism and authoritarian to the core.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505660447 141866554,141895298,2017-09-17 15:02:20,">>141894957 With something of value. The implication of abolishing central banking means a destruction of globalists currency monopoly. They'll have nothing if we get our way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505660540 141866554,141895354,2017-09-17 15:02:57,">>141895153 see >>141894835 but he hasn't answered >>141894957",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505660577 141866554,141895455,2017-09-17 15:03:56,,,Anonymous,photo_2017-09-15_17-02-44.jpg,LqpHl+r90Ys0AvVx6fgCmw==,US,,1505660636 141866554,141895611,2017-09-17 15:05:29,">>141895153 >Enter voluntarily into a contract You made your bed, now lie in it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505660729 141866554,141895862,2017-09-17 15:07:53,">>141894516 What I mean to say is that a corporation stops being a corporation as soon as it coerces people into purchasing their goods/services; it becomes a state (or gang). Most modern states have a coercive monopoly on defense, law, mail, money, healthcare, etc. Would the provision of those services make the state a corporation?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505660873 141866554,141895916,2017-09-17 15:08:22,">>141895298 >With something of value. Thats why i asked about commodities. Commodities are pretty much goods or services and you can buy and own them. Think barrels of oil. Lets say you take away the federal bank and centralised banking the rich oil baron is still going to own his oil. So then instead of selling his oil with american dollars he will do it by selling it for silver or maybe some land or cattle or whatever the fuck he wants. So then he controls all the oil and you and everyone else still wants to run their cars but he isn't going to give it away for free. Understand globalists own tangible things they don't just have big bank accounts of monopoly money. They will just switch over to purchasing things with their tangible goods or services instead of using monopoly money.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505660902 141866554,141896180,2017-09-17 15:11:08,">>141894957 you don't need to buy, here in america we used to have a homesteading act where anyone could go out into federal owned land and live there for 7 years to gain the land he could put a fence around. the first step of us americans should be renacting that law. and without gov it'll be a land grab, if you can fence it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505661068 141866554,141896232,2017-09-17 15:11:40,">>141895862 So whats wrong with say having a monopoly on defense, law, mail, money, healthcare? If those things are privatised its like gangs of new york tier where the fireman fight each other rather than put out the fire while the house is looted.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505661100 141866554,141896333,2017-09-17 15:12:39,">>141895611 It is literally the only option without inheriting wealth from the family, being bestowed a gift from the wealthy or having a patron to support an endeavour. Also you completley ignore the rest of the post at which point I think you have to concede that libertarianism = feudalism and it is authoritarian. This isnt necessarily bad though after all if you want closed borders monarchy can achieve that. Just expect a hostile take over from a rival company to be alot more bloody.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505661159 141866554,141896356,2017-09-17 15:12:51,">>141896180 so what about national parks and shit like that everyone will be running to yosemite to squat on it",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505661171 141866554,141896541,2017-09-17 15:14:51,">>141896356 Crown land anon. Dont hunt the kings deer he owns them all.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505661291 141866554,141896551,2017-09-17 15:14:59,">>141896356 national parks here are off limits to that, or was when the law was in place. plenty of more natural beauty here. ever been to the rockies?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505661299 141866554,141896566,2017-09-17 15:15:09,">>141895916 Yes, and this is the ideological war anyone opposed to globalism must fight. Everyone must be warned of their corrupting forces. Even totalitarians must make the choice not to sell their people to the globalists. No matter the system, it comes down to our choice and struggle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505661309 141866554,141896576,2017-09-17 15:15:13,">>141866663 >ywn trade in a free market Why even live?",,Anonymous,1462483118503.jpg,+35uEpEQcOdPfUf8GuVbcQ==,US,,1505661313 141866554,141896699,2017-09-17 15:16:25,"daily reminder that libercucktarians will also get the rope We'll let you hang the commies though, you'll just go right after them",,Anonymous,,,,,1505661385 141866554,141896800,2017-09-17 15:17:30,">>141896699 Checkd Also a literal faggot flag",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505661450 141866554,141896812,2017-09-17 15:17:37,">>141896551 >>141896541 yeah but you aren't a young nation anymore you have a massive population its not like pioneer days anon sorry if you want free shit and to larp in the countryside",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505661457 141866554,141896815,2017-09-17 15:17:41,">>141896333 I don't care for protecting you from natural order and your choices. That's why I am a Libertarian. Maybe you should choose to die with some dignity if you hate capitalism so much.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505661461 141866554,141896918,2017-09-17 15:18:47,">>141866554 Bump for the superior general",,Anonymous,IMG_2395.jpg,uf1E6xEzlz+CiLXUqgvWaw==,,,1505661527 141866554,141897079,2017-09-17 15:20:31,">>141896566 like it sounds nice but the problem is your not starting from zero your starting in a situation where the dudes that own everything like the car companies and the oil companies and the trains etc will just go on as business as usual and make a killing because theirs no government to regulate their behaviour",,Anonymous,1500029041699.jpg,wo5wnrOoixamUgsYsPVKGw==,RU,,1505661631 141866554,141897113,2017-09-17 15:20:48,">>141896812 > didn't you know anon? we've already mapped our pop density per mile. there's enough land for everyone to have about a mile of land with plenty left over. i feel this a popular misconception of our time, that there is not enough land and we must live in cities. ruralization is the biggest threat to the establishment Don't fall for the overpopulation meme. thats what makes men not want kids",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505661648 141866554,141897147,2017-09-17 15:21:08,">>141866904 Better than Hillary but not Ron Paul tier",,Anonymous,,,,,1505661668 141866554,141897268,2017-09-17 15:22:29,">>141896815 I dont hate capitalism, I'm a realist though. The royal family's of Europe for the most part still exist, are you related to one, do you have a noble title. How far removed from the monarchy are you? If you are nothing more than a mere Mr What on earth makes you think you will be anything more than a serf in a libertarian society. You will trade your rights for food and shelter when you are starving and in the cold.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505661749 141866554,141897311,2017-09-17 15:22:57,">>141897079 you don't understand, the law does not kill monopolies, it protects them. free entry into business will ensure a slow death of monopolies. and more importantly, the law is the only thing keeping virtuous men in check, the kind that run out these corporations when they get too haughty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505661777 141866554,141897385,2017-09-17 15:23:48,">>141897113 >there's enough land for everyone to have about a mile of land with plenty left over. >mfw your land is a mile of non-arable land thats just barren rock",,Anonymous,1501519985610.png,7peVdGTKO4Ja2EoQgrjHcw==,RU,,1505661828 141866554,141897503,2017-09-17 15:24:54,">>141897268 what makes me not a serk in this future society? my mind, i will be happy to stake out and claim my own land like a pioneer. capitalism is the only system which awards intelligence and farsightedness. at least for individuals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505661894 141866554,141897606,2017-09-17 15:26:00,">>141897311 >the law does not kill monopolies, it protects them. >the law is the only thing keeping virtuous men in check I'm confused sounds like you disagreed with yourself",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505661960 141866554,141897656,2017-09-17 15:26:36,">>141896232 The problem is that when that state monopoly fails to satisfy its customers, there is no recourse. If you find that police are either too aggressive or too aloof, you can't hire a private defense company. If you find the law of the land too draconian or too lax, you can't move somewhere to avoid it (federal law supersedes state law, and expatriation is a horrifically long and expensive process). If you find that the mail service loses your stuff or takes too long to deliver, you can't use another postal service (Lysander Spooner attempted to set up his own postage company, but the feds shut it down). If you find that the value of federal fiat currency is too susceptible to inflation to be of any use, you cannot use commodity or crypto currency to avoid that. If you find that the state-run healthcare system is inefficient, has low standards, etc., you cannot simply ignore it. At best you'll be taxed for a service you don't use, at worst you'll be taxed and punished for using other services. And as for this socialist propaganda that ""privatized = post-apocalyptic"", how much revenue do you think such firms could expect by fighting each other in that manner? Would you pay fire insurance to a company whose fire-fighters are more devoted to fighting other companies than putting the fire out?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505661996 141866554,141897671,2017-09-17 15:26:44,">>141897311 This statement is false. If it wasn't for trade laws in my country wed have literal monopolies running everything the population here isnt large enough for competition.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505662004 141866554,141897694,2017-09-17 15:27:04,">>141897385 haha, still can be used friend, and we're not commies, land won't be assigned at least. so we'll be able the snag the good land, and that desert can be used for solar farms. las vegas style cities, and anything else a smart lad could come up with. only your mind limits you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505662024 141866554,141897751,2017-09-17 15:27:44,">>141897268 Hold on aus bro they hae a different culture",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505662064 141866554,141897866,2017-09-17 15:28:59,">>141897671 and for this statement peter thiel has a full 2 hour talk if you want to watch it",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505662139 141866554,141898052,2017-09-17 15:30:50,">>141897503 >stake out a claim in your own land. Then defend it from the invaders, defend it from the richer more powerful competitors. This is how feudalism starts every cunt stakes their own claim until somebody rises to the top of the wood pile establishing the monopoly that is the kingdom. Good luck anon, but unless you've got wealth behind you right now your gonna struggle when it comes time to defend your claim.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505662250 141866554,141898058,2017-09-17 15:30:53,">>141897606 let me word it better, the law is made by monopolies in power to keep his power, regulations and entry business fees are that and as we see now, since corporations don't have to actually deal with people(they can lobby your city, state, feds). they can get you kicked out. and the law is the tool used, its is used to prevent entry into the market AND keeps virtuous men in check cause they want to be good and not criminals, since the gov actually has to get them removed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505662253 141866554,141898246,2017-09-17 15:32:45,">>141897671 your pop isn't small enough for free enterprise, would you start a business the competes with them if their was no entry fees involved and land was easier to get?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505662365 141866554,141898260,2017-09-17 15:32:55,">>141897866 Maybe later its sunrise and I haven't slept.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505662375 141866554,141898277,2017-09-17 15:33:06,">>141897656 >The problem is that when that state monopoly fails to satisfy its customers, there is no recourse. there is though they are called elected politicians that represent you who can change the laws so these services offered to the citizens of the country can better serve you this pretty much trickles down and rebuts all your other points Now your rebuttal will be politicians aren't effective etc.. at changing the laws and improving these services Then we get into territory where you should be talking about how you have a new system of governance that will be better than capitalist democracy and as you can see some of us aren't sold on anarcho-capitalism",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505662386 141866554,141898323,2017-09-17 15:33:30,"What socialistfags refuse to admit: All nigger problems and massimmigration would go away if socialist welfare would be cut. >Inb4 statecucks short-circuit and start babbling about THEIR race (as if they own it).",,FIRST FLAG - BEST FLAG,,,,,1505662410 141866554,141898360,2017-09-17 15:33:48,">>141898246 could you clarify im not really understanding you position",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505662428 141866554,141898378,2017-09-17 15:33:59,">>141897694 yeah or if you own a car and a trailer when the revolution happens and you can drive out to the best land and set up stakes",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505662439 141866554,141898423,2017-09-17 15:34:35,">>141898260 good night anon",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505662475 141866554,141898689,2017-09-17 15:37:27,">>141898058 yeah but what about like say not just corporate law but all that other shit the government offers like work safety, education, healthcare, the environment not just bankster shit you know the sort of laws that stop guys from selling you a glock that explodes in your hands or a toy that has lead paint on it and kills your kids by the time their 5",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505662647 141866554,141898940,2017-09-17 15:39:58,">>141898323 nah they will just steal cars and trailers and guns and stake a claim on land with all their families because no-one will be protecting the border and claim vast swathes of america as their own",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505662798 141866554,141899055,2017-09-17 15:41:11,">>141898052 You are not wrong, i know that my hot shit version of libertarianism is doomed to collectivize without a learned population or group dedicated to the enforcement of denying states power. but i see that for monarchists, fascists, natsocs, and any political idea. its all about the cycles of society, from a anarchy, to protectionism, to socialism, to tyranny. life is cycles and i'd like to set the wheel that drives these cycles to the earliest point. so that way for at least maybe a 1000 years later when the new rome rises it will be better, and at least no jews, as they would be evicted to space or killed off, and the jewish defectors that want to live should be castrated or at least gene edited to ensure their bloodlines dies. the only way out is as i said above, a complete cultural revolution where everyone values liberty is only way we can see this last for a time longer than a lifetime, read this quote, at least i hope this answers something about your question to defense",,Anonymous,Defending the free territory.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,US,,1505662871 141866554,141899141,2017-09-17 15:42:10,">>141899055 >i know that my hot shit version of libertarianism is doomed to collectivize without a learned population or group dedicated to the enforcement of denying states power. this is what the founding fathers did though",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505662930 141866554,141899221,2017-09-17 15:42:58,">>141898378 all i need is primitive living vids and a mind of dreams",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505662978 141866554,141899360,2017-09-17 15:44:24,">>141898689 that can be easily handled by private watchdog groups, as it usually already is. simply in an era without gov their importance will increase",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505663064 141866554,141899449,2017-09-17 15:45:29,">>141899055 >cultural revolution where everyone values liberty this is true this is where the fight is and i feel it lies in education from an early age children need to be educated in the values of liberty i realise now looking at all the antifa leftist protests at universities why education is so important otherwise if you don't educate the youth properly someone will probably literally brainwash them for their own globalist agenda",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505663129 141866554,141899504,2017-09-17 15:46:01,">>141899141 and they didn't remove jews did they?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505663161 141866554,141899505,2017-09-17 15:46:02,">>141898277 >there is though they are called elected politicians that represent you who can change the laws so these services offered to the citizens of the country can better serve you There are numerous problems with the elected oligarchy (or ""democracy"") that is currently in place. The main problem is that it is a majority rule system. If 80% of a population wants single-payer healthcare, but the remaining 20% does not, then the result is that single-payer healthcare becomes the law of the land and the dissenting 20% ends up marginalized by their fellow citizenry. >this pretty much trickles down and rebuts all your other points No, honestly, it reinforces them. Not only does the state retain coercive power, the majority gets to decide who they want to coerce, how they want to do it, and for what purpose. That's mob rule. >Now your rebuttal will be politicians aren't effective etc.. at changing the laws and improving these services Politicians have no incentive to actually fulfill their promises, they just have to do the bare minimum to get as many terms in office as possible. >Then we get into territory where you should be talking about how you have a new system of governance that will be better than capitalist democracy Yeah, that's pretty much what we're about. >and as you can see some of us aren't sold on anarcho-capitalism I'm really not interested in selling ancapism (or any other libertarian school of thought) to other people, because as I see it, most people have some pathological hatred of freedom, so no matter how I spin ancapism, they won't care for it. We're more interested in seceding and forming our own covenants. If we can awaken more people to the concept of liberty, that'd be great, but most people simply don't like it, so we're not as interested in persuading outsiders at this point.",,Anonymous,They don't want freedom.jpg,vkF3AoMEtY2MtUV7CI70/w==,,,1505663162 141866554,141899574,2017-09-17 15:46:38,">>141899221 lets say you build a primitive hut on said land how do you prove how long you've been their to say you've occupied the land for 7 years and now its rightfully yours",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505663198 141866554,141899741,2017-09-17 15:48:27,">>141899449 i know the situation is bleak, thats why i'm hoping to run for office soon and change that, but i'm seriously thinking that the first and most important step would the abolition of the government it self, kinda like a hard reset, just throw the piece to the wall and see where they scatter type of deal. at least the new system that arise won't be leftist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505663307 141866554,141899930,2017-09-17 15:50:25,">>141899574 are talking about a scenario where gov is around? then you tell the states land office where you've settled and wait. then 7 years later, its yours if you worked it. without gov? fences or other markings that are obvious",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505663425 141866554,141900025,2017-09-17 15:51:23,">>141899505 >We're more interested in seceding and forming our own covenants. If we can awaken more people to the concept of liberty, that'd be great, but most people simply don't like it, so we're not as interested in persuading outsiders at this point. I look forward to the next waco happening. Nah i don't i'm just kidding but if you want this to happen you do need to make it appealing. I like freedom and its easy to poke holes and nit pick things but i also see that as troubleshooting i don't think its a good idea to just be like welp the government is shit currently we will just have a revolution and then see where the chips lie after that i think thats irresponsible",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505663483 141866554,141901133,2017-09-17 16:02:38,">>141899741 >kinda like a hard reset, just throw the piece to the wall and see where they scatter type of deal. at least the new see>>141900025",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505664158 141866554,141901326,2017-09-17 16:04:43,">>141869978 You can simply go for a new separation of powers the same way as the constitution, with the sole purpose of the monarch to be a ceremonial figure that can only enforce blood laws. Just an endless watcher with a sole jurisdiction. The western world has had most of its history fullfilled under monarchies - maybe democracy was a sign of times that we have become too weak. Because it's the same - groups become tribal and covet ""the throne"" so much they import voters and racial aliens.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1505664283 141866554,141901444,2017-09-17 16:05:56,">>141899741 You don't have to take down the whole government, just be hardassed about what qualifies as important enough for the government to spend its time on. Be lean grey institutions instead of bloated grey institutions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505664356 141866554,141901600,2017-09-17 16:07:42,">>141901444 this is the way i see it i think ron paul was onto the right thing smaller government but not complete anarchy",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505664462 141866554,141901672,2017-09-17 16:08:19,">>141901326 the only problem with constitutions is that they only cement the power of the king and make him a permanent fixture in society that is much harder to topple if abused but not violated the constitution. it disallows the other nobles from rising take the kings throne as they are now bound by a definite set of what can and won't happen",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505664499 141866554,141901750,2017-09-17 16:09:03,">>141872429 Except they are humans too, and private security already operates in south africa and all of latin america. And it's not like, i dont know, you sign a contract instead of haggling like we are in medieval times, there is no bartering, they are legally obliged.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1505664543 141866554,141901926,2017-09-17 16:10:52,">>141901444 >>141901600 small as possible i say, but the most important part about abolishing the government is that they wouldn't be able to rewrite them selves power after my/whoevers term is up. it will only devolve back to the keynesian nightmare we are in. regardless something drastic must be done",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505664652 141866554,141901947,2017-09-17 16:11:05,">>141901672 what if that constitution laid out basic rights to be upheld by elected individuals and they had a term for 4 years? That way no king can just constantly be in power.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505664665 141866554,141902135,2017-09-17 16:13:14,">>141901947 then thats not a kingdom is it? and thats what we already have right? a parliamentary system? i think i misunderstand",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505664794 141866554,141902139,2017-09-17 16:13:18,">>141898323 You're delusional, man. People would still immigrate because of wage differences. As long as there are huge differences in standard of living between countries, people will immigrate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505664798 141866554,141902216,2017-09-17 16:14:02,">>141902139 hes not wrong, but its only the first step in the right direction",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505664842 141866554,141902319,2017-09-17 16:15:11,Are neoliberals libertarians?,,Anonymous,1505050562297.png,Wg1RN7ycVuEPnN3d9GCbdA==,US,,1505664911 141866554,141902383,2017-09-17 16:15:57,">>141902319 Define neo-liberal. Define libertarian. Maybe we should just stop using such terms if they cause more confusion than clarity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505664957 141866554,141902425,2017-09-17 16:16:34,">>141902135 thats what happened the founding fathers were trying to protect you guys from serfdom and feudalism and shit like that its just corruption has destroyed their vision pretty much happened when that old dude woodrow wilson sold you out",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505664994 141866554,141902471,2017-09-17 16:17:03,">>141902383 liberalism favoring free market capitalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505665023 141866554,141902765,2017-09-17 16:20:08,">>141897079 There's also no government for them to lobby to regulate in their favor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505665208 141866554,141902932,2017-09-17 16:21:51,">>141902471 >Bastiat quoting a self-described Marxist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505665311 141866554,141903054,2017-09-17 16:23:17,">>141902319 No. Neoliberals believe: >that free-market capitalism creates unparalleled growth, opportunity, and innovation, but may fail to allocate wealth efficiently or fairly. Therefore, the state serves vital roles in correcting market failure, ensuring a minimum standard of living, and conducting monetary policy. Hardly a libertarian policy. To critique it myself, I can't see the difference between effecting the creation of wealth and the distribution of wealth, so that redistributing this wealth (allocating it 'fairly' in their lingo) reduces the amount of wealth created anyhow. Of course, along with the moral problems involved with statism, in the general sense.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505665397 141866554,141903426,2017-09-17 16:27:25,">>141902425 isn't it sad that it died? fun jewish facts: one of the founding fathers was connected to scottish banking and had a jewish tutor in his young life after failing to get into a private school. he was a rumored pro monarchist and was the one that forced the office of the presidency to be made when the current constitution was being drafted. making the presidency an over glorified office as the figurehead of the gov drawing attention from the rest of the officials. plot or coincidence? idk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505665645 141866554,141903442,2017-09-17 16:27:39,">>141903054 Oh, alright. I was going to take the neoliberal title but I guess I'll just stay with libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505665659 141866554,141903817,2017-09-17 16:31:39,">>141866554 BUMPLING",,Anonymous,george evola.png,MaS+m91owtWS6hRCaRYIOw==,SK,,1505665899 141866554,141903846,2017-09-17 16:31:55,"bumping with hoppe https://youtu.be/tdd2cF8UgfQ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505665915 141866554,141904017,2017-09-17 16:33:38,">ancaps/right-libertarians can't argue against this makes me kek every time",,Anonymous,1496880945220.png,eL402hioQUdHBWSVu99CUg==,,,1505666018 141866554,141904105,2017-09-17 16:34:32,">>141900025 I'm not interested in revolution, though. If we take to the streets with violence, we have the US police and Antifa against us, not to mention I doubt the natsocs/fascists will be exactly sympathetic to our cause. I'm calling for a peaceful secession. Get a settlement going, or perhaps join up with some city with a dissatisfied population. If we go with the latter, then sure, we do have to do a little marketing, but they'd be easier to sway than the average liberal in NYC or LA. If we can get that off the ground, I have hope that other cities/towns will follow suit and secede as well. The ultimate goal is a patchwork of small voluntary covenants, more akin to Monaco, Liechtenstein, and San Marino. (I apologize for the poor quality of pic related, btw)",,Anonymous,Liechtenstein.jpg,UIymMZLhHs9RdXNgyhCLpQ==,,,1505666072 141866554,141904114,2017-09-17 16:34:35,">>141894273 >take over They already have. Libertarianism deals with how to abolish public property as ethically and efficiently as possible. When 99% of the property you claim becomes illegitimate and up for grabs, enjoy it while it lasts, which won't be long.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505666075 141866554,141904179,2017-09-17 16:35:11,">>141904017 What argument? that you don't wanna recognize something so you perform mental gymnastics to justify selfishness?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505666111 141866554,141904345,2017-09-17 16:36:59,">>141904114 are you agreeing or disagreeing with me mate?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505666219 141866554,141904386,2017-09-17 16:37:27,">>141904179 No, the argument that your NAP, the principal basis for any libertarian or ancap country, is rife with arbitrary rules.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505666247 141866554,141904392,2017-09-17 16:37:31,frog posting is a protected right given by god to all men,,Anonymous,1487300161696.png,9KZV9jz6/LS8qpsxvEjUBg==,US,,1505666251 141866554,141904400,2017-09-17 16:37:39,">>141904105 saved, and i agree, but i think succession of our planned city state should be priority, so that you can have a hub for settlers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505666259 141866554,141904458,2017-09-17 16:38:13,">>141904105 I thought you pseudo-libertarian Hoppeans were against migration.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505666293 141866554,141904705,2017-09-17 16:40:55,">>141904386 okay maybe i'm just a brainlet. but whats your argument? that the anarchy we desire would be one of no masters but of rules?",,Anonymous,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,US,,1505666455 141866554,141904921,2017-09-17 16:43:17,">>141872429 >wake up from nightmare to the sound of your proximity-based garden gnome mine built from a garden gnome and 20$'s worth of fertiliser and roofing nails AnCapistan always wins.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505666597 141866554,141905018,2017-09-17 16:44:19,">>141904458 migration? not really. immigration? yes we like people, we don't want them living among us",,Anonymous,Hans on immagrations.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,US,,1505666659 141866554,141905200,2017-09-17 16:46:02,">>141904458 Long after we got to the free association bit, you're still shilling on about us being pseudo-libertarians. Fuck you cunt. Go back to r/Libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505666762 141866554,141905438,2017-09-17 16:48:30,">>141904105 heres a better pic with the same quote, i like the background tho, wish more were pretty like that",,Anonymous,More small states pls.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,US,,1505666910 141866554,141905485,2017-09-17 16:49:01,">>141891785 kill thyself Kulturkampf! remains a masterpiece.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505666941 141866554,141905723,2017-09-17 16:51:22,">>141889508 You had a chance to restore monarchy, or otherwise nudge things closer to the natural order. The general theme of National Socialism (nation, folk, blood and soil, strong families) is actually a very good recipe for a successful libertarian society. Also, didn't Hitler build a bunch of roads? What a jerk.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505667082 141866554,141905752,2017-09-17 16:51:41,">>141905438 Yeah, I'm trying to update it so the text is more legible. That's not too hard though. Trying to put Hoppe in there is a little more difficult because his cowlicks are hard to crop around.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505667101 141866554,141905819,2017-09-17 16:52:24,">>141872429 >NAP states it is wrong to use force >Kony uses force to recruit his child army HURR DERP! LOLBERTARIANS LUV KONY!!!!1111oneone",,Anonymous,,,,,1505667144 141866554,141905862,2017-09-17 16:52:54,">>141905752 try to just increase the shadow on letters, or in this case with that nice background, consider a dark red to contrast all that blue and green",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505667174 141866554,141905973,2017-09-17 16:53:56,">>141905819 Kony was african, unable to into libertarianism",,Anonymous,Lovecraftpill.jpg,07zvYI5ZFfeHD5wfzTGscw==,US,,1505667236 141866554,141906053,2017-09-17 16:54:39,">>141905018 Hoppe is retarded. If people weren't permitted to migrate outside the 1-mile square mile in which they were born, you wouldn't have a free market, would you? You would have just have separate ""free"" labor markets within each square mile area but the welfare losses would be huge because you're preventing people from forming welfare improving associations in a broad labor market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505667279 141866554,141906322,2017-09-17 16:57:25,">>141906053 So you would use force to prevent voluntary segregation? Admit it, you don't like free association. You fag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505667445 141866554,141906420,2017-09-17 16:58:21,">>141905752 If you want to make the text more readable on top of a landscape, you can use an additional transparent dark grey rectangle behind it",,Anonymous,Untitled-6.jpg,yhR8CN4sYWVv+0PV2mMprw==,,,1505667501 141866554,141906479,2017-09-17 16:58:55,">>141904705 The argument is that you can't truly call something your property if you aren't actually enforcing your property - in other words, if you have property because the NAP says people can't take your property, then you're merely dancing as if you own property, while being reliant on the NAP for granting your property. Property can only be taken by force. Ownership can only be established by deterring others from taking your property, using force. ""B-but people would be able to defend themselves in AnCapistan!"" I'm glad you enjoy your ancapball memes and fancy yourself as tough, but the reality is that most people would rely on the NAP, and thus the people's good will, to enforce their property, not actually enforce the property themselves. This is why your ideology is as spooked as any other ideology.",,Anonymous,1496877199124.jpg,2E6B8zIP8Zjc5z2NTX4bEQ==,,,1505667535 141866554,141906490,2017-09-17 16:59:06,">>141906053 what are you even on? since when in the history of ever has that been a problem?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505667546 141866554,141906573,2017-09-17 16:59:51,">>141904345 I disagree. The globalists have acquired wealth through government licensing and lobbying, not through a legitimate free market.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1505667591 141866554,141906640,2017-09-17 17:00:35,">>141906322 Go ahead and segregrate yourselves. Not like anybody wants to associate with racist, high school dropout Hoppean losers anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505667635 141866554,141906873,2017-09-17 17:03:11,">>141906640 I would gladly not associate with cosmopolitan dipshits like you. Now go take another bong rip you faggot loser.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505667791 141866554,141907018,2017-09-17 17:04:42,">>141906479 you mean people would have to follow rules to live peacefully? you don't say. and what of defence? there is plenty of ways to defend, neighbors or family and friends. private insurance agencies or security companies. or your own damn self. again maybe i'm a brain but it seem obvious that we would follow rules to remain civil, rule enforced by you and whoever your own ingenuity can muster to your defense. holyshit egoists are like children",,Anonymous,Black enonocmics man.jpg,4RXsWi7BGKHUVKzkynDOug==,US,,1505667882 141866554,141907160,2017-09-17 17:06:11,">>141905862 Yeah, I think I've opted for a darker background instead. Pic related was an experiment with another quote, and I like the way it turned out a lot better. >>141906420 That's not a bad idea, either. Trouble is I'm using very basic software (Preview on Mac), so I can't make transparent objects like that. Hopefully I'll get around to getting a better graphic design program.",,Anonymous,Pericles.png,7safy9e8qLOLsTmMfwWn2w==,,,1505667971 141866554,141907216,2017-09-17 17:06:51,">>141906573 but how did these men come to wealth before central banking was introduced?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505668011 141866554,141907470,2017-09-17 17:09:20,">>141907216 they bought our the banks of england, france, and the vatican. even before their central banks and imf's, they could just get a man inside or a rich man to invest into the bank, becoming influential. or in the case of england, buying up all the bank notes from private individuals when there's a dip",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505668160 141866554,141907829,2017-09-17 17:12:47,">>141907160 Okay, here is a preview of how it would look like I cannot turn the whole text white because it merges with the mountains. Yeah, you should definitely switch to something more advanced",,Anonymous,Untitled-7.jpg,wA9DIBwlkJAHY4hSFv1dQQ==,,,1505668367 141866554,141908371,2017-09-17 17:18:07,">>141907829 looks bad m8, just turn that top text white, and keep the faded backdrop",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505668687 141866554,141909415,2017-09-17 17:28:45,">>141908371 I agree, the letters turned out blurred because I misused the Magic Wand. Anyway, I cannot turn the top text white, it has to be typed all over again. I used this as an illustration to the other anon.",,Anonymous,Untitled-7.jpg,72E7ZpCbJrnJ8Ry6a6qeWw==,,,1505669325 141866554,141909482,2017-09-17 17:29:28,">>141909415 The image of Hoppe is very low quality",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505669368 141866554,141910231,2017-09-17 17:36:54,">>141904017 >Drawing of Stirner kicking ancaps What argument, you faggot?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1505669814 141866554,141910575,2017-09-17 17:40:03,This,,Anonymous,fyw6vdV.jpg,FCU7caWVyIUviuKc/d+xwQ==,,,1505670003 141866554,141911243,2017-09-17 17:46:06,">>141894824 That would be funny if it wasn't so fucking true.",,Anonymous,1502861820534.jpg,IRPlp+KNLbo4Klz0Pdm0qw==,,,1505670366 141866554,141911737,2017-09-17 17:51:15,Who else agrees that we need an economy not based upon big buisnesses gangbanging the US Government as a tax evasion and pention cumdump?,,Anonymous,3409070-mussolini-quote-fascism-corporatism.jpg,ZPJ4yjRTcMe/WskvfbTGwQ==,,,1505670675 141866554,141912979,2017-09-17 18:03:44,"So I'm writing a paper on drug legalization in a free market society. I already have most of my arguments done, but theres one that has me a bit stumped. How do you solve the issue of children left without functioning parents due to drug abuse?",,Anonymous,1459687224798.png,biV0+jOiVLF4Jjwh4Xa/jw==,US,,1505671424 141866554,141913452,2017-09-17 18:08:09,">>141912979 McOrphanariams",,Anonymous,,,,,1505671689 141866554,141914023,2017-09-17 18:13:19,left libertarianism is a contradictory thing as taking away market rights requires more government control and collectivization which is contrary to libertarianism which is individual liberty,,Anonymous,,,,,1505671999 141866554,141914356,2017-09-17 18:16:03,">>141866554 Highly suggested video, show it to all your normie friends.",,Anonymous,The enemies Within.jpg,7xYGThwZG6Nc3Hb1D61+Lg==,,,1505672163 141866554,141915231,2017-09-17 18:24:50,">>141910575 Amazon Prime has loads of political documentaries about Communist infiltration of the USA.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505672690 141866554,141916586,2017-09-17 18:37:41,">>141912979 >How do you solve the issue of children left without functioning parents due to drug abuse? Same as we do now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505673461 141866554,141916833,2017-09-17 18:40:21,">>141916586 >Same as we do now. Elaborate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505673621 141866554,141917609,2017-09-17 18:48:41,">>141916833 Honestly don't know what we do now, but we have some kind of system in place because that scenario actually happens despite drugs being illegal. The question is does drug legalization make the problem worse/better, which should be covered by your other arguments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505674121 141866554,141917741,2017-09-17 18:50:06,">>141909482 There aren't that many good, high-quality pics of Hoppe that you can easily crop him out of. As I've mentioned above, his cowlicks make it difficult to get around his head, and even then, there's usually shit in the way of him (subtitles, logos, podia, etc.).",,Anonymous,,,,,1505674206 141866554,141918104,2017-09-17 18:53:52,">>141870947 In what sense is the UK socialist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505674432 141866554,141918174,2017-09-17 18:54:26,Really makes you think....,,Anonymous,mises laissez faire government.jpg,jCrrmsKueTTi+4tRR+25YQ==,US,,1505674466 141866554,141920759,2017-09-17 19:21:52,">>141875892 Liechtenstein, ancient Ireland",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505676112 141866554,141920918,2017-09-17 19:23:28,">>141887711 Hoppe's a pretty good read, very logical very smart but he's a dry personality for the most part. Anatomy of the state is pretty common for entry level reading how did you find it as someone probably already established in your ideas? Was it thought provoking? Did it sure up & clarify some ideas? Or was it more just reinforcement for what you already knew? >>141871559 > forgotten the face of your father Indeed spicey bro.",,Anonymous,Anatomy of the State.jpg,KtlH0ySoisAq+aImylrx1w==,,,1505676208 141866554,141920966,2017-09-17 19:24:03,">>141882503 Same here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505676243 141866554,141921098,2017-09-17 19:25:30,oc bump,,Anonymous,hoppe.jpg,l066R7o6T2FK7CQYbNDbVQ==,,,1505676330 141866554,141921445,2017-09-17 19:29:10,">>141896576 So that can we work to create a world based in liberty and justly acquired private property for our posterity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505676550 141866554,141921671,2017-09-17 19:31:50,">>141921098 Good shit my dude",,Anonymous,1uooh0.jpg,jWyjYvi31DllANObLuriWQ==,,,1505676710 141866554,141922191,2017-09-17 19:37:25,">>141921098 That's beautiful",,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-03.23.44.png,ZwPKM2yqVpL5Xct6cAUIyg==,US,,1505677045 141866554,141922310,2017-09-17 19:38:43,">>141921671 That image is to real.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505677123 141866554,141922356,2017-09-17 19:39:07,">>141922310 too",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505677147 141866554,141922516,2017-09-17 19:40:48,Better than Hoppe trash.,,Anonymous,Huemer - Problem of Political Authority.jpg,5xSCkwldZlxwmt31Zj1hwA==,US,,1505677248 141866554,141923013,2017-09-17 19:46:29,">>141922516 Why do you have such a boner for this thread? Fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505677589 141866554,141923232,2017-09-17 19:48:52,">>141923013 How do you trespass my Hoppean safe space?!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505677732 141866554,141923258,2017-09-17 19:49:07,,,Anonymous,1f57e7e54c94011745a4b3234560cad450f1b3445a930318f1b3a5ca65fad8f1.jpg,GkmsG75SgZgeiqgb9nOf0Q==,US,,1505677747 141866554,141923421,2017-09-17 19:51:05,">>141923232 Your only point against Hoppe is that people form communities that you don't like. That's not very muh tolerance of you faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505677865 141866554,141923818,2017-09-17 19:55:11,">>141923421 I wouldn't mind if Hoppeans segregated themselves. It's not as if they contribute anything to society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505678111 141866554,141923970,2017-09-17 19:56:39,">>141922310 This one too",,Anonymous,DIMxxcIXUAII34P.jpg,e/ltPFfZbqYkMJAnu+UczA==,,,1505678199 141866554,141924048,2017-09-17 19:57:25,">>141923970 Thanks, I was gonna have to make that one if you didn't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505678245 141866554,141924204,2017-09-17 19:59:24,">>141923818 Yeah, and I'm sure you smoking weed, jacking off and reading Bryan Caplan benefits society. Eat shit you communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505678364 141866554,141924532,2017-09-17 20:03:31,">>141924204 >stigmatizing smoking weed and masturbation This is why no one would want to live in your Hoppean ""covenant communities"". .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505678611 141866554,141924597,2017-09-17 20:04:24,">>141918174 Astounds me people refuse to see this. It's more about fear of the unknown vs the familiar I'm thinking. Stops people from making big leaps of logic into uncomfortable territory.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505678664 141866554,141925105,2017-09-17 20:10:06,"Why does Bryan Caplan trigger right-wing fake libetarians so much? https://youtu.be/QvkxuZXmR-o",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505679006 141866554,141925252,2017-09-17 20:11:32,">>141924532 Good, I don't want egalitarian communist faggots like you around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505679092 141866554,141925343,2017-09-17 20:12:32,">>141925252 I'm neither egalitarian or communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505679152 141866554,141925359,2017-09-17 20:12:40,">>141907018 You haven't actually refuted his argument - in the end, the only thing backing private property rights is the ability to coerce people into respecting them through force or intimidation. If a force existed that was powerful enough to seize your property and repel any force sent to retake that property, then your property rights end the moment that force decided to ruin your day.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505679160 141866554,141925577,2017-09-17 20:15:04,">>141925343 I'm not arguing with you communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505679304 141866554,141925646,2017-09-17 20:16:02,">>141925577 Hoppeans are the ones who want to tax people to hire thugs to enforce socialist borders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505679362 141866554,141925845,2017-09-17 20:18:17,">>141925646 You couldn't be more wrong communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505679497 142043465,142043465,2017-09-18 20:08:07,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Hippity Hoppity.png,9KZV9jz6/LS8qpsxvEjUBg==,US,,1505765287 142043465,142043501,2017-09-18 20:08:28,,,Anonymous,Laissez Faire.jpg,jCrrmsKueTTi+4tRR+25YQ==,US,,1505765308 142043465,142043533,2017-09-18 20:08:47,,,Anonymous,Threats of Violence.jpg,65OXxrD1l3bJnGhvqFuLig==,US,,1505765327 142043465,142043663,2017-09-18 20:10:13,,,Anonymous,Waco Seige.png,dEapXAOEYwVjqEWTW5vyxg==,US,,1505765413 142043465,142043711,2017-09-18 20:10:41,,,Anonymous,Means To Liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,US,,1505765441 142043465,142043766,2017-09-18 20:11:16,,,Anonymous,Timothy McVeigh quote.jpg,wpsmZiRjEv9D3ipZTNJpwA==,US,,1505765476 142043465,142043829,2017-09-18 20:11:58,,,Anonymous,Socialist Logic.jpg,GkmsG75SgZgeiqgb9nOf0Q==,US,,1505765518 142043465,142043858,2017-09-18 20:12:18,,,Anonymous,Lovecraft Redpill.jpg,07zvYI5ZFfeHD5wfzTGscw==,US,,1505765538 142043465,142043890,2017-09-18 20:12:38,,,Anonymous,Immigration.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,US,,1505765558 142043465,142043954,2017-09-18 20:13:07,,,Anonymous,Secession.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,US,,1505765587 142043465,142044013,2017-09-18 20:13:46,,,Anonymous,The Family.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,US,,1505765626 142043465,142044064,2017-09-18 20:14:12,,,Anonymous,Right Wing Populism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1505765652 142043465,142044099,2017-09-18 20:14:34,,,Anonymous,8 Levels of Control.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1505765674 142043465,142044327,2017-09-18 20:16:44,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy is Authoritarian 2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1505765804 142043465,142044416,2017-09-18 20:17:35,,,Anonymous,They Have to be Removed.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1505765855 142043465,142044473,2017-09-18 20:18:07,,,Anonymous,Born To Remove.png,yp/6grI6jZPtJVzq6PmGlw==,US,,1505765887 142043465,142044546,2017-09-18 20:18:47,,,Anonymous,Admit One.png,IpAOZsk5ucyz6OGHMbUl1w==,US,,1505765927 142043465,142044588,2017-09-18 20:19:14,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy is Authoritarian.png,m+vq+HJQ/+rO+jmc2VaEkA==,US,,1505765954 142043465,142044699,2017-09-18 20:20:19,This is the best argument for anarcho-capitalism. No need to read Hoppe's retardation.,,Anonymous,Huemer - Problem of Political Authority.jpg,5xSCkwldZlxwmt31Zj1hwA==,US,,1505766019 142043465,142044712,2017-09-18 20:20:23,,,Anonymous,Libertarian Reading List.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,US,,1505766023 142043465,142044784,2017-09-18 20:21:05,,,Anonymous,Socialist Quote.jpg,JAxwYC7ARKlyd1s4OfFYCw==,US,,1505766065 142043465,142044851,2017-09-18 20:21:37,,,Anonymous,Democracy Quote.jpg,J0O9phpNEONchjuRLQIS7w==,US,,1505766097 142043465,142044866,2017-09-18 20:21:45,">>142044712 >Austrian Economics They're a joke. Put some real books on economics on there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505766105 142043465,142044926,2017-09-18 20:22:19,,,Anonymous,Democracy.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,US,,1505766139 142043465,142044980,2017-09-18 20:22:51,,,Anonymous,Equality.jpg,RGetp9fMgQK1sDndguegtg==,US,,1505766171 142043465,142045033,2017-09-18 20:23:28,,,Anonymous,The Communist Threat.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1505766208 142043465,142045079,2017-09-18 20:23:55,"DISCUSS ""Well the time it is coming for them to get a message of their own, Donald Trump is the ultimate punishment and WE ARE HIS FUCKING EXECUTIONERS, I think it's quite conservitave to say that Tens of Thousands of Men are anxiously awaiting for the words to fall out of the right persons mouth telling us the wait is over, and we can fulfill our purpose in life by competing to see who can kill the most Communist. We are not weak or gentle or unaware of what is being done to us, we are the same ruthless monsters who mastered the art of warfare before your favorite demographic discovered the wheel, but neither are we the dim-witted Communist Revolutionaries or the Islamic Jihadist you fight over today. We are a disciplined, calculating menace waiting for the time to strike. Luckily for us who are anxious for the chance it cannot be far off. We have seen Terrorism, Race Riots, False Flags and Now shots fired, we are not going to sit here and watch you topple an elected President waiting to see what Democrats prefer to Democracy. We will smash, stab, shoot and bomb you in a manner that will make the Islamic State look civilized by comparison. We 'll slaughter your males, rape your women and leave your children in the company of the pedophiles you've set free upon our streets. If anyone is going to impose an UN-elected Government on the continent of North America it's gonna be us and the only thing we're going to be more liberal with is the fucking death penalty!"" Christopher Cantwell, Libertarian, Political Prisoner.",,Anonymous,1495682386892.jpg,8IgtbqJZ+jotNhaMU8SpWQ==,,,1505766235 142043465,142045080,2017-09-18 20:23:56,,,Anonymous,Open Borders 2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1505766236 142043465,142045191,2017-09-18 20:24:53,,,Anonymous,REAL Libertarianism.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1505766293 142043465,142045330,2017-09-18 20:26:10,,,Anonymous,What we really are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1505766370 142043465,142045401,2017-09-18 20:26:51,,,Anonymous,Rothbard Quote.jpg,R/HF0mR8BcBvFjUdhsRN1A==,US,,1505766411 142043465,142045447,2017-09-18 20:27:16,,,Anonymous,Reminder.jpg,cpfo4W+OnXz9KeMkg3rEWQ==,US,,1505766436 142043465,142045494,2017-09-18 20:27:46,,,Anonymous,What is it.png,88R2i0cnyIVSx7T41M5IAg==,US,,1505766466 142043465,142045586,2017-09-18 20:28:25,,,Anonymous,What's your problem.png,jHBTV9Khr6Tkw77yLF+CHw==,US,,1505766505 142043465,142045676,2017-09-18 20:29:15,,,Anonymous,Open Borders.png,vg9kKDFzZtzubZYzrE7MQA==,US,,1505766555 142043465,142045775,2017-09-18 20:30:07,,,Anonymous,Communist Filth.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1505766607 142043465,142045833,2017-09-18 20:30:41,,,Anonymous,nu v tru pol.png,elZ2/QXq1o51Xq0eeB1rAg==,US,,1505766641 142043465,142047186,2017-09-18 20:43:59,">>142043954 Finally got around to updating my a e s t h e t i c version with that quote. Definitely more legible.",,Anonymous,Liechtenstein.png,6t1M5hYFazudz9CRIHv9SQ==,,,1505767439 142178102,142178102,2017-09-19 21:24:46,"...Anonymous (ID: qBSEylIP) Archived /lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERA(...) 09/18/17(Mon)20:08:07 No.142043465 254 KB 254 KB PNG This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. >Discord: GnjDkn3 RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Open] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA [Open] [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Open] [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Open] [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Open] [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,IMG_1666.jpg,1wKJ6CEn8+u1Mc7iLdjDiQ==,,,1505856286 142254704,142254704,2017-09-20 14:08:44,,/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General - Hoppe and Korwin Mikke edition,Anonymous,21761845_10154976385332060_8287880634762817330_n.jpg,nKJ7kB7sJk/MoqyOVpcmGg==,DE,,1505916524 142293725,142293725,2017-09-20 20:25:11,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Ps2MwGX RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,fascist snek.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1505939111 142293725,142294604,2017-09-20 20:32:49,Hey man,,Anonymous,sneklove.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,,,1505939569 142293725,142294993,2017-09-20 20:36:31,">>142293725 Nationalist here who's pro-markets but anti-Austrian. Why do so many Right Libertarians avoid learning about economic theory outside of Austrian school stuff? Keynesian economics isn't the meme or boogeyman you make it out to be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505939791 142293725,142295274,2017-09-20 20:39:02,">>142294993 I disagree",,Anonymous,,,,,1505939942 142293725,142295402,2017-09-20 20:40:19,">>142295274 Well how would you know if you haven't read or don't read about it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505940019 142293725,142295482,2017-09-20 20:41:01,">>142294993 >pro-markets >keynesian",,Anonymous,Hoppe (11).jpg,/Nm+NO9kA6fNHQMuqa5uuw==,,,1505940061 142293725,142295514,2017-09-20 20:41:19,">>142295402 Studied it in college, not a fan",,Anonymous,,,,,1505940079 142293725,142295811,2017-09-20 20:43:50,">>142295482 Capitalism requires a state. Capitalism requires, or is fundamentally based upon, private property. Private property requires some entity isomorphic to a state to enforce realistically/pragmatically.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505940230 142293725,142295821,2017-09-20 20:43:57,I used to read regulatory codes and fantasize about repealing them.,,Anonymous,,,,,1505940237 142293725,142295905,2017-09-20 20:44:46,">DONT ANYTHING NEAR ME The thread",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505940286 142293725,142296110,2017-09-20 20:46:38,">>142295905 This is pretty much how I actually feel.",,Anonymous,1505664650326.jpg,6ykAq5fRnjjpss1I4WMyzg==,,,1505940398 142293725,142296351,2017-09-20 20:49:09,"This was an interesting read, I had no idea what the political climate used to be like. Pretty sad desu, they should make a movie about Mises, Hayek & Rand from their fleeing Socialism/Fascism through the fall of Liberalism, to the rebirth of the liberty movement. >>142294993 I dunno mate, Keynes was pretty fucked up. It's not too far-fetched to postulate that he became so popular because he gave both the left & right wing statists the justifications they needed to push their shit with economics backing them. He has caused us a lot of grief.",,Anonymous,The Betrayal of the American Right_Rothbard.jpg,dgWnPhkmFyiR/rQvbQGvvA==,AU,,1505940549 142293725,142296876,2017-09-20 20:53:53,,,Anonymous,,,,,1505940833 142293725,142296993,2017-09-20 20:54:55,,,Anonymous,left vs right.jpg,LVQz9rWgrcGCk4B6NrIO0A==,,,1505940895 142293725,142297047,2017-09-20 20:55:29,,,Anonymous,ticket.png,IpAOZsk5ucyz6OGHMbUl1w==,,,1505940929 142293725,142297273,2017-09-20 20:57:39,,,Anonymous,ourguy.jpg,wpsmZiRjEv9D3ipZTNJpwA==,,,1505941059 142293725,142297626,2017-09-20 21:01:00,">>142296876 Milton Friedman was behind the Monetarist school which is largely viewed as being wrong in many key areas or discredited due to events such as the 2008 financial crisis. Do you know anything about Neoclassical or Keynesian economics? Have you ever read anything about them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505941260 142293725,142298211,2017-09-20 21:06:38,">>142297626 I can tell you the answer. No. Most austrian-school-fanboys don't have any clue about any other economic theory, because they usually reject the use of logic at the start.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505941598 142293725,142298621,2017-09-20 21:11:06,,,Anonymous,snek (4).png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,,,1505941866 142293725,142298973,2017-09-20 21:14:44,">>142297626 What does his theories of Money/Credit etc have to do with that video or his understanding of basic economc, market activity, statistics and what not?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505942084 142293725,142299015,2017-09-20 21:15:13,">>142298211 Most people have no clue about most things because most people don't read and get their shit from videos.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505942113 142293725,142299101,2017-09-20 21:16:04,">>142299015 True. And that is also the case for libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505942164 142293725,142299914,2017-09-20 21:24:38,">>142299101 True of every group but I've found Libertarians are more likely to read Libertarian & Marxist books than most groups A lot of Libertarians have gone from one or the other to Libertarian, a lot of stories of people going from reading Marx to Rothbard, or whoever to Rand. I haven't heard many stories of people doing economics (Keynes) then going on to read Austrian & Marxist works, least of all conservatives that tend to be raised as conservative nor lefties that tend to craft echo chambers more than the other two that love to argue with their ideological opponents. All in all though, problem is no cunt actually reads, which is why 90% of debates are two strawmen going at it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505942678 142293725,142303105,2017-09-20 21:58:16,"r8 my economic reform lads >completely cut corporate and social welfare >drop tariffs but secure borders and control immigration >end the central bank and fiat currency >implement a low flat tax and a simple understandable tax code >outlaw lobbying and preferential legislation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505944696 142293725,142303184,2017-09-20 21:59:19,"Holy shit they're releasing s series of essays by Rothbard soon plus a fifth volume of Conceived In Liberty. He's literally more prolific dead than authors alive today.",,Anonymous,,,SY,,1505944759 142293725,142303751,2017-09-20 22:05:28,">>142303105 What's your banking policy? >>142303184 That's happened to a lot of Libertarian/Classical Liberal authors, they wanted to write so many thoughts on so many subjects that unfinished essays/books are found when they die. Happened to Hayek, Mises, Rothbard you name it. More than I can say for a lazy cunt like Marx or the intellectuals behind Fascism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505945128 142293725,142304018,2017-09-20 22:08:21,">>142303751 what do you mean? central bank would be kill, the banks have to actually fend for themselves now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505945301 142293725,142304242,2017-09-20 22:10:44,">>142297626 Sorry I've taken so long to get back and reply. I'm open-minded. Recommend some literature that will convert me to Keynesian economics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505945444 142293725,142304384,2017-09-20 22:12:12,">>142304018 Yeah but like explicitly free banking? Any currency is legal tender? Gold standard solely? Competitive fiat? Preference either way?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505945532 142293725,142304408,2017-09-20 22:12:23,">>142303105 Pretty good, provided I allow taxation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505945543 142293725,142304785,2017-09-20 22:16:26,">>142304384 whatever works, my philosophy is more of taking the government to shrink and freeze it, kinda like taking a placeholder so nobody else can ruin it instead of trying to run it myself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505945786 142293725,142305114,2017-09-20 22:19:39,">>142304785 Fair enough, I'm not sure outlawing lobbying would stop it from happening though. Would be a big ask of the government not to be influenced by powerful people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505945979 142293725,142305196,2017-09-20 22:20:28,">>142304242 The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money - John Maynard Keynes Introductory Macroeconomics: A Modern Approach - Jeffrey Woolridge (Really any introductory text on econometrics will do) Any introductory text on macroeconomics. Modern Money Theory: A Primer on Macroeconomics - L. Randall Wray Any text on advanced macroeconomics. Modern mainstream macroeconomic thought is dominated by Keynesian (well, to put it more technically Keynesian-Neoclassical synthesis) thought/analysis, so most standard books by professors will cover Keynesian-style topics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505946028 142293725,142305330,2017-09-20 22:21:49,What's up senpai?,,Anonymous,IMG_1428.png,zySh/DLQlHwM8MlJVBV3kQ==,,,1505946109 142293725,142305510,2017-09-20 22:23:33,">>142305196 Fair enough, I will look into them and read probably at least most of them, for you I'd say just research Hans-Hermann Hoppe if you haven't much already.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505946213 142293725,142305515,2017-09-20 22:23:36,">>142305196 You want the guy to read through The General Theory? What the fuck, at least recommend something easier that might be persuasive like a Keynesian work on the great depression & the GFC to compare to the Austrian view or some econ 101 propaganda. Fuck me dead cunt.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505946216 142293725,142305650,2017-09-20 22:25:04,">>142305330 I remember when I was like that. At least when I first researched communism in high school I wasn't fooled.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505946304 142293725,142305697,2017-09-20 22:25:38,>>142293725,,Anonymous,1497322626608.png,HHULeUtWGXWzu3SdUfgSLQ==,US,,1505946338 142293725,142305759,2017-09-20 22:26:17,,,Anonymous,1497322607784.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,US,,1505946377 142293725,142305775,2017-09-20 22:26:25,">>142305515 What would you recommend and discourage then? Also, Hans-Hermann Hoppe goes for you, too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505946385 142293725,142305849,2017-09-20 22:27:13,,,Anonymous,IMG_2286.jpg,w20SMQ+xZpmL1/aEM67ltg==,US,,1505946433 142293725,142305896,2017-09-20 22:27:39,">>142305515 why shouldn't he read it directly from the source though? it's like telling someone not to read the Communist Manifesto to judge it for himself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505946459 142293725,142305922,2017-09-20 22:27:55,,,Anonymous,anti-antifa.jpg,f8Bk1uj3V0uTXs6iSy4l3w==,,,1505946475 142293725,142305927,2017-09-20 22:28:01,,,Anonymous,IMG_4112.jpg,kETgMBCMenbhyhfRPWyS/A==,US,,1505946481 142293725,142306041,2017-09-20 22:29:29,,,Anonymous,1505671097208.jpg,t2MfNcSIy8WIpg34Sj4teA==,US,,1505946569 142293725,142306125,2017-09-20 22:30:25,,,Anonymous,ancap gf.png,LNTKFBYG1/F9qBEVvBIYRg==,,,1505946625 142293725,142306456,2017-09-20 22:34:33,What do you people think would happen to a 100% free market country once automation and AI start talking more complex jobs?,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1505946873 142293725,142306471,2017-09-20 22:34:47,>>142306041,,Anonymous,ancap get the nukes.jpg,yCfnjOgEQjmoHPGPrT1rug==,,,1505946887 142293725,142306655,2017-09-20 22:36:53,">>142306456 people do the jobs that haven't been automated yet >but everything is automated >including people and so we enjoy the nirvana of technological singularity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505947013 142293725,142306720,2017-09-20 22:37:35,">>142306456 How complex? Man-made computers can only outdo God-made computers (human brains) to a certain extent in certain areas.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505947055 142293725,142306792,2017-09-20 22:38:18,">>142306456 The same thing that's happening now, people will get educated for a different job and move to a market with more demand. Jobs aren't some static number that machines are constantly eating up, jobs will appear as markets expand and disappear as markets contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505947098 142293725,142306929,2017-09-20 22:39:50,">>142306456 The people who's jobs are replaced will move into the jobs that aren't automated, and the economy will grow. Same thing that happened in the Agricultural and Industrial Revolutions.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1505947190 142293725,142307080,2017-09-20 22:41:23,>>142306929,,Anonymous,,,,,1505947283 142293725,142307380,2017-09-20 22:44:41,">>142306655 Yeah, but the demand for not-yet-automated jobs wouldn't grow proportionaly to the newly automated jobs. >>142306720 Complex enough to serve food, fly airplanes and boats, do accounting and law related services. Hell, maybe even teach. I firmly believe that this isn't far off. Maybe in 30 years we may have an AI that replaces 20-30% of white collar jobs.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1505947481 142293725,142307451,2017-09-20 22:45:22,">>142295811 False. The State is the primary institution that violates the property rights of individuals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505947522 142293725,142307630,2017-09-20 22:47:42,">>142307380 what do you mean? you understand that we're about supply-side economics, not demand-based keynesianism right? supply precedes* demand *not make, precedes. Very important difference, look up Say's law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505947662 142293725,142307682,2017-09-20 22:48:17,">>142306125 >tfw slowly molding my gf into this",,Anonymous,,,,,1505947697 142293725,142307702,2017-09-20 22:48:33,">>142305896 I know what you mean but it's close to 500 pages of quite complex economic theory, best analogy I can think of is telling someone to make a barefoot hitchhiker pilgrimage to the Vatican before going to a church & talking to a priest. Difficult for a laymen. >>142305775 Honestly there's a lot of literature from different perspectives on the great depression for example; Friedman, Hayek, Mises, Rothbard etc which can be directly compared to Keynes views & link into Krugman's views and flow into the GFC. It's a lot more accessible to read the public written arguments from a group of economic titans to compare and go through your econ 101 mainstream stuff & then into the big stuff. I don't know how anyone could skip straight to & struggle through The General Theory & equivalent works.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505947713 142293725,142307723,2017-09-20 22:48:47,">>142295811 >>142297047",,Anonymous,,,,,1505947727 142293725,142307988,2017-09-20 22:51:42,">>142307451 Where do you think property rights are consistently or universally enforced from without a state or something analogous to it? They can't/won't be, the state is necessary to capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505947902 142293725,142308160,2017-09-20 22:53:26,">>142306929 Brotha, the point of AI IS to serve as a substitute to the human intelectual process. Can you imagine some job that a human would do better than a complex, fully developed AI? Even fucking prostitution is being replaced by machines. The industrial revolution replaced our physical efforts, and the AI revolution will replace our mental efforts. After that happened, what the fuck will we do? It's not like there's much more demand to be satisfied outside of these two.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1505948006 142293725,142308183,2017-09-20 22:53:46,">>142307702 he can read notes, summaries, videos, as he reads passages if he's confused my point is to focus on the first source though, always and every time. The moment you introduce another person's thoughts on something they might confuse their opinion as the source itself, even subconsciously building on your church analogy, you are telling him not to read the bible for himself and instead let priests digest it for him. I wouldn't insult his intelligence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505948026 142293725,142308253,2017-09-20 22:54:42,">>142308160 >After that happened, what the fuck will we do? conquer space my man >but robots will do that and we'll do it together",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505948082 142293725,142308416,2017-09-20 22:56:19,">>142295811 What a retard",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505948179 142293725,142308487,2017-09-20 22:57:07,">>142308160 >After that happened, what the fuck will we do? Mechanics, engineers, soldiers, stuff like that. Combine that with transhumanism which makes us more useful and there'll be plenty of jobs for us.",,Anonymous,AK.jpg,jMP9lO0GwpVa46UztEzP3Q==,,,1505948227 142293725,142308604,2017-09-20 22:58:18,">>142308416 How exactly would private property rights be consistently and universally enforced in a hypothetical system without a state? Try whatever you want, you're going to settle on something that essentially functions as a state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505948298 142293725,142308614,2017-09-20 22:58:23,">>142295811 Private property requires 1 person to make a claim & defend it, or two people to agree, or an institution to protect/uphold the idea, but protecting property (which is necessary for life) does not mean that the whatever defends property is necessarily a state. A state has specific characteristics that aren't necessary to argue, defend or believe in the concept of property. I think people assume way too much, the idea that dispute resolution only ever equals a state is the same as saying education only ever equals public education, clearly you don't have to be a state to provide education, nor do you need to be to provide arbitration or collective force or various other things.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505948303 142293725,142308635,2017-09-20 22:58:29,Dude we should get rid of government so I can do weed whenever I want. Dude weed lmao.,,Anonymous,1501301536293.jpg,uGjLGKqbe2Bal3X45giq9A==,CA,,1505948309 142293725,142308714,2017-09-20 22:59:18,">>142293725 >libertarians think it's ok for me to harvest the entire atmosphere as long as the air pumps and storage tanks are on 'my' property",,Anonymous,HenryGeorge.jpg,NnqGX6ADYVLfBD0BZ9ON5Q==,,,1505948358 142293725,142308811,2017-09-20 23:00:26,">>142308604 Does a security guard function essentially as a state? Or can a security guard protect your person/property without having a violent monopoly over a give geographical area or a claim to be above people & their property? Does a security guard claim to own/control that which they protect like a state does? Clearly not and that is just one example off the top of my head so I don't think it follows mate. Similar =/= same.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505948426 142293725,142308936,2017-09-20 23:01:38,">>142308714 How is that wrong?",,Anonymous,1505072289584.jpg,7A+o4mOLH03TVhrj3qNl0Q==,,,1505948498 142293725,142308947,2017-09-20 23:01:46,">>142308714 >all libertarians are ancap",,Anonymous,1504733675403.jpg,b/r1niQtUnAQrKm0BG91Eg==,US,,1505948506 142293725,142309082,2017-09-20 23:03:08,">>142303105 8/10 missing some things regarding structure but other wise good",,Anonymous,,,,,1505948588 142293725,142309085,2017-09-20 23:03:12,">>142308635 >dude we should have a government so that we can do what someone else wants >dude free shit lmao a straw for a life",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505948592 142293725,142309124,2017-09-20 23:03:34,">>142307988 Explain exactly what it is that the State provides that protects private property. Is it their enforces that they use to steal people's private property in the form of taxation or eminent domain? Is it their conscription, which steals the property rights of every individual to their own body and conscious? Is it their regulations that stifle competition in the market and create vast monopolies? Is it their selling of their coercive rights to the highest bidder to do with as they please? Anarcho Capitalism is a system of rights developed by Rothbard that uses the Natural Law of Man as it's axiomatic foundation. It is used to determine the answers to questions of the form ""Does a person have the right to X?"". The NAP is a logical progression from this axiom. Essentially what it states is that aggression against a non-aggressor is always unjust. No one has the right to aggress against another that has not aggressed against them. The upholding of these disputes would probably be handled by private courts as was done in the days of Common Law and the Natural Aristocracy.",,Anonymous,1483302085302.png,aqvUqedvpBKHBuQo1eUdEw==,,,1505948614 142293725,142309162,2017-09-20 23:03:49,">>142309082 what about structure am I exactly missing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505948629 142293725,142309197,2017-09-20 23:04:13,">>142308947 ""it should be pumped full of hormone disrupting chemicals and chemicals that affect how our minds function""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505948653 142293725,142309256,2017-09-20 23:04:57,">>142308947 Brabeck isn't wrong, Chile privatized their water and it worked out for them.",,Anonymous,kick.png,1fmj3POQZAHX1j7uo9mnnQ==,,,1505948697 142293725,142309382,2017-09-20 23:06:23,>>142296993,,Anonymous,1501722183236.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1505948783 142293725,142309386,2017-09-20 23:06:27,">>142308947 Because public water worked for Detroit",,Anonymous,,,,,1505948787 142293725,142309706,2017-09-20 23:10:02,">>142308614 > Private property requires 1 person to make a claim & defend it Ok, now personally defend your private property when it's land you hold that's potentially hundreds+ kilometers away. To effectively do anything like it you need an institution that covers property considerations for the whole area somewhat equally and effectively. >>142308811 State protection is basically a natural monopoly, whether you like it or not people overall like participating in a safe and stable common market with well-known, established, and enforceable rules. Complete decentralization of property arbitration or the use of force is just ridiculously inefficient and can't establish the types of markets that a state or some analogue to it can.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505949002 142293725,142309784,2017-09-20 23:10:52,">>142309162 You need a form of bank not specifically a centralized bank but how would the banks operate also while not related to economic structure what kind of borders were you thinking of implementing I do agree wholeheartedly though with those choices but some could use more explaining",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949052 142293725,142309798,2017-09-20 23:11:04,">>142308936 if it's ok to you for a private entity to harvest natural resources without recompense then you obviously don't see anything wrong with that scenario. to see why it's wrong: imagine you buy some property and have a nice spring that feeds your well. i come around and buy some property above you and build a huge well that traps all the water that passes under my property. water that would have gone to you now goes to my well. your well is now dry. this is ok to you?",,Anonymous,FreeEarth.png,qGpO58RlX1b/APgZi7GsLA==,,,1505949064 142293725,142309915,2017-09-20 23:12:13,">>142308635 you didn't read the original post. This is no place for dude weed lmao's (even though I smoke weed myself now and again)",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949133 142293725,142309936,2017-09-20 23:12:25,>>142293725,,Anonymous,1484565313762.jpg,wHmOgMldCDmC6yh8Um+AmA==,US,,1505949145 142293725,142309989,2017-09-20 23:12:57,">>142308947 the only libertarian solution that solves the issue I brought is Georgism. You're right that not all Libertarians are AnCaps but how do non-georgist libertarians solve the issue I brought up?",,Anonymous,geolibertarian.jpg,VQg5CGVDwJT8pqg0y+9wmg==,,,1505949177 142293725,142310129,2017-09-20 23:14:32,">>142309936 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949272 142293725,142310177,2017-09-20 23:15:02,">>142309197 >>142309256 >>142309386 it was just an on topic pic you nogs. Water should be privatized. but arguments like ""what if air is privatized?"" are fucking retarded because not all libertarians are retarded ancaps",,Anonymous,1505076957230.jpg,JAxwYC7ARKlyd1s4OfFYCw==,US,,1505949302 142293725,142310227,2017-09-20 23:15:31,">>142309936 I unironically think we need to seize/nationalize all natural resources which as the true means of production. A factory is not a natural resource but it uses natural resources. As long as the factory pays for all the natural resources it uses at a market rate (land rent, air pollution, water, noise, em spectrum etc) then it has the freedom of the free market to behave anyway it sees fit. If the factory only wants to hire Aryans and pay them a penny a day I don't care. Just as long it pays for the rights to the natural resources.",,Anonymous,1503659025305.jpg,hzpEdK6e5vDT0f6XNJXGbw==,,,1505949331 142293725,142310252,2017-09-20 23:15:50,">>142310177 Super abundant goods cannot be privatized",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949350 142293725,142310264,2017-09-20 23:15:57,">>142309989 >water being sold instead of distributed by the state is an issue",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949357 142293725,142310302,2017-09-20 23:16:25,">>142310177 >Water should be privatized. but arguments like ""what if air is privatized?"" are fucking retarded because not all libertarians are retarded ancaps >water and air are different even though they're both natural resources mfw libertarians can't even maintain a coherent logical framework",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949385 142293725,142310469,2017-09-20 23:18:05,">>142309989 I don't see how a minarchist state wouldn't stop egregious violations of human rights like the privatization of air. One could also argue that the NAP would be violated with an action like that but anarchism never works and ancaps are retarded. Property doesn't exist without the state.",,Anonymous,1504930261415.jpg,fx08MaV1zKckdJJ7NqAVrw==,US,,1505949485 142293725,142310496,2017-09-20 23:18:21,">>142310264 >i don't get it you would still be allowed to harvest water you'd just have to pay a market based tax on it this isn't a difficult concept to grasp. if this is difficult for you to understand then please stick to memes. so you'd only have to pay pennies a year to fill up your well out in a rural area but nestle would have to pay billions for the amount of water it harvests.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949501 142293725,142310607,2017-09-20 23:19:35,">>142310302 honestly neither can be realistically privatized. The only arguments against ancap are strawmen except for the questions of degeneracy, which Libertarian Fascism/Hoppean philosophy takes care of",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949575 142293725,142310620,2017-09-20 23:19:45,">>142309706 > hundreds+ kilometers away Not necessarily. You can also reclaim it at a later time, employ people to risolve disputes if they come up in relation to it, or to do defend it. It's not that black and white. > people overall like participating in a safe and stable common market with well-known, established, and enforceable rules True, that doesn't necessarily mean the rules or the people that enforce or debate the rules have to be centralized in order for dispute resolution to occur. > Complete decentralization of property arbitration or the use of force is just ridiculously inefficient The point you're missing is that the services can exist without having some characteristics of the state, whether you think centralized & area based is always better than decentralized & case based is another matter entirely. The point is does whatever method or structure mimic a state? If it lacks very core parts of what a state is/does then it's not the same thing just because it provides a similar function. Is it voluntary? Is there recourse? Are there alternatives? Can monetary contribution be stopped? Is it decentralized? Does it claim to own/control above persons & property? The state has very specific consistent answers to all of these questions, it isn't hard to imagine alternatives that are different in 1 or all of these questions. Whether you think they're effective is another issue. Does it cla",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949585 142293725,142310813,2017-09-20 23:21:44,">>142310496 I still don't see the big issue, especially when it's privately distributed so the owner will have to compete with others and thus make sure the water isn't toxic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949704 142293725,142310877,2017-09-20 23:22:23,">>142310607 Water can certainly be realistically privatized. You can build a well and sell the water from it. You can own the land of an oasis. You can own a dam. Air, however, is super abundant and cannot be privatized unless made novel, such as compressed air or oxygen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949743 142293725,142310974,2017-09-20 23:23:23,">>142310813 A lot of people get this notion that under an ancap society there would be monopolies and only monopolies. They attribute all the negative qualities of monopolies to the ancap market, which makes no sense at all.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949803 142293725,142311002,2017-09-20 23:23:35,">>142310877 this is true I meant like all water including the ocean (which can actually be filtered of salt now)",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949815 142293725,142311138,2017-09-20 23:24:54,">>142309798 That's not how wells work. The water is underground, in an aquifer. So feel free to build a well above my well, you won't have any water in your well.",,Anonymous,aim.png,CEsjk34+9mnPLIxIC8kMRQ==,,,1505949894 142293725,142311141,2017-09-20 23:24:55,">>142310974 Exactly, but in truth none of them could get as big as a major government, who use deadly force with little to no competition.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505949895 142293725,142311262,2017-09-20 23:26:07,">>142310469 How is privatization of air a violation of human rights?",,Anonymous,blackwater.jpg,ul4vYKCrrwTkIa1xWQmOQg==,,,1505949967 142293725,142311318,2017-09-20 23:26:37,">>142298621 >raise taxes try again https://espressostalinist.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/life-in-socialist-albania.pdf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505949997 142293725,142311400,2017-09-20 23:27:25,">>142310469 I used to be an ancap until I ran into the issue of harvesture of natural resources. The argument that ""the very risk and work you put into harvesture gives you the right to the natural resource doesn't sit right with me"" and you're right. anarchism is the true final goal but I don't think we're smart enough to reach it. A seed that emerged into a healthy and free society is beyond our understanding at least for now. It's why we're forced to rely on governments right now. It's why I want to be an anarchist (geoanarchist) but I just don't know what that seed is. So I think we're fucked. Ironically, my love of the NAP gave me the conclusion that geolibertarianism is the true answer since the act of seizure of a natural resource that you never created is an act of aggression. The natural resource belongs to God (Spinoza's God/metaphorical), not us. So you are stealing from Him, aggressing. And you're right: property is DEFINED by a state and can't exist without a state. But a state is an anarchist construct, keep that in mind. >>142310607 degeneracy is taken care of by Darwin. There's a reason why all current religions are conservative, it's what survives and thrives in the real world. Hedonism, dies. Atheism dies. So there doesn't need to be a law that just basically does the same thing Darwin already does. Darwinism is how we reach Anarchism. >>142310813 I never argued that economic forces wouldn't solve the issue I brought up. Is that what you're saying though? That my act of harvesting the entire atmosphere would be stopped by natural Darwinian economic forces? Yes, it would be retarded to even try to harvest the entire atmosphere due to cost. Maybe you're right, we don't need a law preventing people from harvesting the entire atmosphere because it economically can't happen anyway (even though it would technically be physically possible). You brought up a good point. I'll have to do some research/testing. >>142311138 >I don't know how springs work",,Anonymous,,,,,1505950045 142293725,142311521,2017-09-20 23:28:38,">>142310974 People think libertarianism=monopolies and capitalist dystopia without realizing how nearly every aspect of the market is artificially controlled. People don't realize how drastically society would change in a truly free market. It would be incredibly difficult for a monopoly to consolidate power.",,Anonymous,1505077088146.jpg,Dx9/Qg8SnksyOXTKxMoMJA==,US,,1505950118 142293725,142311671,2017-09-20 23:30:21,">>142309784 >You need a form of bank not specifically a centralized bank but how else could it not be a central bank if everything I do is central? >how would the banks operate banks can exist without a central bank >what kind of borders were you thinking of implementing open BUT extremely discriminatory and selective so only a few competent minority would realistically bother, especially if there's no gibs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505950221 142293725,142311675,2017-09-20 23:30:22,">>142310607 There are realistic arguments against ancap though, Keynesian and Neoclassical economic thought dominate macroeconomic thought and theory for a reason. Collective/Nationalized health care with a two-tier private alternative system is actually better than completely privatized health care. Kenneth Arrow pointed this out over 50 years ago. http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/82/2/PHCBP.pdf https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/ http://pnhp.org/blog/2016/03/16/kenneth-arrow-says-single-payer-is-better-than-any-other-system/ This idea of certain services being better under a nationalized system also applies to many other fields with lots of externalities, such as education.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505950222 142293725,142311756,2017-09-20 23:31:22,">>142311141 >>142310974 Not just big, any money they divert from the business reduces their capacity for doing business & competing. So its much easier to lobby a politician to get a monopoly than it is to hire mercernaries or some imaginative bullshit to go across the world & make sure that no one anywhere is doing a specific thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505950282 142293725,142311787,2017-09-20 23:31:42,">>142294993 as keynes envisioned it of how its actually practiced ?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505950302 142293725,142311809,2017-09-20 23:31:55,">>142311400 >I don't know how springs work So then why are you using wells as an example? Try something your more familiar with, but if you don't know how water, aquifers, or springs work then don't try to make a point you barely understand.",,Anonymous,america.jpg,jsaTAIf/GRAOX4oAe2sQjg==,,,1505950315 142293725,142311872,2017-09-20 23:32:36,">>142311809 >i don't know how meme arrows work",,Anonymous,,,,,1505950356 142293725,142312017,2017-09-20 23:34:15,">>142311787 or not of damn i cant type",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505950455 142293725,142312193,2017-09-20 23:36:08,">air can't be privatized we bottled water, air tanks have been a thing for decades and nobody gives a shit. don't believe me? take a patient's air tank and say ""this is public property, deal with it"" and see what happens",,Anonymous,wew.jpg,A634As5lkIlibHLCWmeV/g==,US,,1505950568 142293725,142312350,2017-09-20 23:37:59,">>142311872 >thinks that non knowing how springs work is okay because he added meme arrows",,Anonymous,coffee.png,mdd+nWcA9M7e7nTMEiQrtQ==,,,1505950679 142293725,142312451,2017-09-20 23:39:04,">>142312193 See this is why there's fuck all problem. You can bottle water but you can't privatize the rain, if it falls on your property so be it. It's logistically impossible same with the air for now, you can make air canisters but you can't tell who is breathing air you originaly breathed or was from your property just doesn't work that way. It's amazing though, all the massive evils of the state, war, democide, control, surveillance, crushing rights and when someone advocates a free society people spend so much time being scared of shit like ""privatized air"" lol. It's not a rational fear nor a rational disagreement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505950744 142293725,142313209,2017-09-20 23:47:17,">>142312451 amused me so much I made a meme thread about it lul",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505951237 142293725,142313354,2017-09-20 23:48:58,">>142312193 Under Geolibertariansim, the Canned Air company will bid for the right to harvest an X amount of air from the atmosphere. Since air is so abundant the company will probably pay a dollar a year. The person who bought the canned air from the company now has legal ownership of that air, trying to take away his air would be theft. Stop fighting strawmen and actually understand what the argument is first! >>142312451 Governments are just a tool. Just like science. Government/Science/Etc has no intrinsic evil nor any intrinsic good. Moreover, Governments are created from a state of anarchism! Please think before you post.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505951338 142293725,142313661,2017-09-20 23:52:35,">>142313354 >the right to harvest an X amount of air from the atmosphere and how will they enforce this right? through a state? hmmm >The person who bought the canned air from the company now has legal ownership of that air, trying to take away his air would be theft. no, even if we're playing the legality game then he only has the right to what he purchased: a fucking can of air, not air itself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505951555 142293725,142314074,2017-09-20 23:57:30,">>142313354 >Governments are just a tool Yes, no one here is advocating against government. What we are advocating against is the unnatural and violent imposition of the State apparatus onto the people. Any entity that obtains it's power through the use of violence is an illegitimate one. The State is not the same as government. Government is what occurs whenever any group of people decide to orchestrate a community. This is a natural occurrence, as it is within the best interests of individuals to cooperate. However, as soon as that organization begins to use force in order to force those under it's dominion to bow to their will, the problems arise. Voluntarism is key. If the organization is voluntary and does not aggress against the rights of others, then there is nothing to worry about.",,Anonymous,1500909355693.jpg,YCVV9APq0UGiSAkFakuNcQ==,,,1505951850 142293725,142314628,2017-09-21 00:03:47,">>142313354 >Since air is so abundant the company will probably pay a dollar a year Pay a dollar a year to WHO?",,Anonymous,butterfly.jpg,zy9cxUJBpjNcqwjhElBLuw==,,,1505952227 142293725,142314795,2017-09-21 00:05:52,">>142313661 Read my other replies. Ideally we'd do it through an anarchist free market system where we don't need a sovereign government but I don't think we're smart enough to create a system like that. So right now, yes we'd rely on a government to enforce this system. Governments can be made more transparent and democratic through end-term elections (bad reps get hanged in the street via vote at the end of their terms), juries for deep state classified ops (we have deep state courts, but no juries wtf right?), and an immutable constitution or at least a constitution that requires at least some segment of the empire to remain with the intact original constitution as a sort of political museum of sorts. This way, if a new constitution leads to disaster at least we have a reserve of the empire that's still its original self as a backup. The ultimate goal is the eternal propagation of the current biology of humanity. Even if we create AI and techno Gods we MUST maintain a semblance of our past as a reserve. >he purchased: a fucking can of air, not air itself So the can that the air goes in is made of natural resources too: metal. The aircan company has to buy these cannisters from a company that takes raw material and turns it into aircans. The company that harvests and uses the metal resource has to first bid on it from the government. Again, these aren't huge costs since iron etc are so plentiful right now these rights can be bought for PENNIES. So when you buy that aircan with the air in it you are buying a bundle of rights along with the final utility/product. You are buying the right to that 1kg of metal and you are buying the right to that 1kg or air or whatever. That metal and air is now YOURS legally and you can whatever you want to it. So these market based taxes on natural resources get passed down to the consumer. Some say this is bad but it still incentivizes sustainability. Another example is land. When you bid on a plot of land you aren't just...",,Anonymous,,,,,1505952352 142293725,142314872,2017-09-21 00:06:58,">>142313354 > has no intrinsic evil nor any intrinsic good. > has an entire basis in violating persons & property in order to exist > the worst incentives by design > the worst track record in history of the human race Wow really made me think mate.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505952418 142293725,142314958,2017-09-21 00:07:56,">>142313661 buyign the soil and the trees and the house on the plot you are buying the bundle of rights that is associated with that plot/transaction. So one right can be the right of disassociation. Which would give you the right to shoot any trespassers. More strict rights would cost the buyer more than looser rights of disassociation. Either way you're not just buying CAPITAL you are buying RIGHTS. This is a simple concept that any middle schooler should be able to understand.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505952476 142293725,142315033,2017-09-21 00:08:49,">>142314795 >The company that harvests and uses the metal resource has to first bid on it from the government. no it doesn't it, the company that harvests is focused on harvesting what is it with you and ""bidding for the government""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505952529 142293725,142315238,2017-09-21 00:11:17,">>142314958 when you buy something, you buy it as is. You get what you pay for, not rights. You know, physical objects, not abstractions >hi i wanna buy some lemonade >here you got my dude one fresh crisp glass of the right to lemonade >where's the lemonade >you have the right to lemonade >t-thanks for taking my money i guess",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505952677 142293725,142315273,2017-09-21 00:11:47,">>142314795 So you're solution to the ""problem"" of privatized air is to install a government with ownership over all the air and then pray that they don't abuse this power, AND that they can hand out air at a price that doesn't result in shortages.",,Anonymous,catgirl.png,TUUOMgb/zLHYqo0fvR9yYw==,,,1505952707 142293725,142315741,2017-09-21 00:17:02,">>142314074 But those objections are strictly economical and practical in nature, not logical. There is no objective evil in a fascist government. There is however an objective stupidity since giving freedom to as many sovereigns as possible is how you get wealth and progress. >>142314628 Pay to the government. The government would be funded through leased rights to natural resources as opposed to the current system where the government is funded through a tax on human labor. Leasing rights and using those funds to create a government is how you stop putting a burden on the individuals who have no rights. Landowners would be the main source of government funding. >>142314872 And science has killed way more than art has. Does that make science inherently evil? You're either a troll or a newfag. >>142315033 The company needs the rights to the land where the metals are first. It can't just go in and start digging the resource up without first getting permission/rights. >when you buy something, you buy it as is. You get what you pay for, not rights. You know, physical objects, not abstractions holy fuck I'm ashamed to be an american right now. such a simple concept is beyond you? when you buy an acre of land in today's society you suddenly have more legal rights than before. You now have the right to do stuff on this acre of land where the day before you had no such right. Can someone tell me if I'm explaining this wrong or I'm being trolled? >>142315273 the government would own the air to keep it away from us by design. Then you and I can submit a bid for an X amount of air in Y location and the highest bidder gets those rights. So you and I could bid on the same plot of land in Antarctica, for example. And the leases would be temporary. For examples of this system, research Singapore and Honk Kong; they have way freer markets than any white country.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505953022 142293725,142315876,2017-09-21 00:18:29,">>142309124 That's a cute snek, if you don't mind me saying so. (This is actually a stealth bump)",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1505953109 142293725,142315986,2017-09-21 00:19:55,">>142306125 My cock is diamonds at the thought of my Ancap babe",,Anonymous,Born To Remove.png,yp/6grI6jZPtJVzq6PmGlw==,,,1505953195 142293725,142316020,2017-09-21 00:20:24,">mfw I see RWLG every time >mfw I don't see a book list",,Anonymous,1de.gif,1x2NYQprFFN2L7lNADCmrQ==,,,1505953224 142293725,142316174,2017-09-21 00:22:31,">>142315741 >It can't just go in and start digging the resource up without first getting permission/rights. why not? nobody else was there, what are you going to do about it? do you just want those precious resources wasted? >when you buy an acre of land in today's society you suddenly have more legal rights than before. You now have the right to do stuff on this acre of land where the day before you had no such right. no, you've just bought an acre of land. You've always had the right to purchase land and do what you want with it, regardless if you purchase land or not >Can someone tell me if I'm explaining this wrong or I'm being trolled? I feel the same way, so let me break it down for you and take you back to reality rights =/= physical objects rights =/= potential rights = abstraction you have the right to potentially own X, Y, and Z. You do not have the right to X, Y, and Z literally, you need to goddamn pay for it or homestead it to ownership if it was previously unoccupied or abandoned. And that includes all the potential X, Y, and Z has but you do NOT need to buy it off a government, because all rights are natural and god-given, not determined by The State",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505953351 142293725,142316243,2017-09-21 00:23:12,">>142316020 gotchu senpai",,Anonymous,1494550357361.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1505953392 142293725,142316365,2017-09-21 00:24:48,">>142316174 if no one is there and those resources aren't precious then they will cost very little. stop being a fag. so before you bought that acre of land you had the right to just go there and do stuff? are you retarded? >all rights are natural if they're so natural why don't you have those rights right now?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505953488 142293725,142316385,2017-09-21 00:25:05,">>142315741 >the government would own the air to keep it away from us by design Fucking hell man, how totalitarian is too much for you people? There's never a voice in your head that says ""hey, maybe giving all the air, water, and dirt EVERYWHERE to the government might be a bad idea?""",,Anonymous,hallway.jpg,zSf+ty/epkygeZPtjPZR7w==,,,1505953505 142293725,142316436,2017-09-21 00:25:50,">>142295905 Exactly. I want the government to fuck off",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1505953550 142293725,142316450,2017-09-21 00:26:03,">>142309936 I heard rotors whirring...",,Anonymous,,,,,1505953563 142293725,142316517,2017-09-21 00:26:52,">>142307682 I'm glad mines already started from Conservative with some already socially liberal views, so the leap wasn't that small at all. Ancap with a Minarchist gf, I can live with that for now.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505953612 142293725,142316697,2017-09-21 00:29:01,">>142315741 A fascist government is perfectly fine so long as it does not utilize force to maintain itself. If it is a voluntary organization of individuals who wish to follow a supreme leader and listen to him voluntarily, then there is no issue. Once again, the key is voluntary. If they agree to submit to their fascist leader voluntarily, then we're good. If the industries under his control voluntarily submit to his economic orders, then fine. The second his fascist government uses force in order to control the population or enforce economic regulations, there is objective evil. Unprovoked aggression is always a violation of the rights of individuals. This is unacceptable, and any organization that is predicated upon aggression is one that must be abolished.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505953741 142293725,142316718,2017-09-21 00:29:17,">>142316385 Singapore and Hong Kong follow this system; you think those two countries are totalitarian? They have freer markets than white countries. Alaska nationalized all its oil and now every citizen gets a severance check for all the oil those companies harvest. Alaska is totalitarian? Norway nationalized its oil too. They're totalitarian? for anyone who needed any more proof that ancap is a meme for the retarded look no further",,Anonymous,,,,,1505953757 142293725,142316736,2017-09-21 00:29:31,">>142316365 >if no one is there and those resources aren't precious then they will cost very little. why does it have to cost something at all holy shit you're so jewish in making people pay for unnecessary shit >so before you bought that acre of land you had the right to just go there and do stuff? well no, because that land was owned by someone else. I pay for the transfer of ownership, not the abstraction of ""right to land"" in general (which I already have, hence why I am able to purchase land in the first place) >if they're so natural why don't you have those rights right now? use what? I'm already using my natural rights, I pay for shit I want and don't pay for shit I don't want. Most of all I question those who use violence or jewish tricks to get me pay for things that don't need to be paid for",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505953771 142293725,142316892,2017-09-21 00:31:25,">>142316243 I think we need a new one, this Ancap one is too focused on modern Ancap & only briefly mentions ""precursors of ancap"" as if to say ""don't bother with Mises, Hayek, Locke, Rand or anyone else that created a huge foundation for the liberty movement, their destruction of intellectual socialism & the basis for modern Libertarianism, the people that formed most of our beliefs, struggled through the dark ages of liberty and passed us the torch"". Like no fuck that, read some Bastiat not just Hoppe & Rothbard.",,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1505953885 142293725,142316894,2017-09-21 00:31:26,">>142316736 k imma just go claim ownership to the entire Moon. you don't have the right to step foot onto that land until you have purchased the rights to step foot onto that land. smarten up i mean if the right you talk about are so natural then why have government popped up to take away those 'natural' rights",,Anonymous,,,,,1505953886 142293725,142316919,2017-09-21 00:31:47,">>142316718 >Alaska nationalized all its oil and now every citizen gets a severance check for all the oil those companies harvest. Alaska is totalitarian? >a man robs another man but was ""kind enough"" to give some of it back >wtf y are you saying the robber is evil? helicopter yourself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505953907 142293725,142317019,2017-09-21 00:32:54,">>142316892 oh I hear you senpai at least we have a reading list here http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ we do need a new meme pic though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505953974 142293725,142317031,2017-09-21 00:33:07,">>142316919 wait, so the oil company is robbing the oil? but they have every legal right to harvest it. plus, i don't get you first you said that no one was using that oil anyway so it should cost nothing to take.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505953987 142293725,142317207,2017-09-21 00:35:21,">>142317031 >but they have every legal right to harvest it. according to them, of course they would justify their own violence >no one was using that oil anyway so it should cost nothing to take. it SHOULD cost nothing to take, but the oil is nationalized meaning private voluntary companies can't gather the same oil from the same resources without encountering violence",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505954121 142293725,142317487,2017-09-21 00:39:01,">>142295811 If anything, the state gets in the way of capitalism. The free market is the most effective way of allocating resources because it bases its production not on a vote, but what people want and are capable of purchasing. I don't need a state to defend my property. I can use my own guns to defend myself and my family, and if need be, I could hire security, if I really wanted it, and could afford it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505954341 142293725,142317761,2017-09-21 00:42:45,">>142317487 >commie defending capitalism I sure hope that's a meme flag, although Karl Marx himself was in favor of a free market for the wrong reasons in that he thought it would accelerate capitalism's """"""inevitable"""""" decline. At least the man wanted a free market",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505954565 142293725,142318022,2017-09-21 00:46:20,">...life cannot maintain itself alone. The Creator has entrusted us with the responsibility of preserving, developing, and perfecting it. In order that we may accomplish this, He has provided us with a collection of marvelous faculties. And He has put us in the midst of a variety of natural resources. By the application of our faculties to these natural resources we convert them into products, and use them. This process is necessary in order that life may run its appointed course. > Life, faculties, production — in other words, individuality, liberty, property — this is man. And in spite of the cunning of artful political leaders, these three gifts from God precede all human legislation, and are superior to it. Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place. > Men naturally rebel against the injustice of which they are victims. Thus, when plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law, all the plundered classes try somehow to enter into the making of laws. According to their degree of enlightenment..... Either they may wish to stop lawful plunder, or they may wish to share in it. > Woe to the nation when this latter purpose prevails > ......men seek to balance their conflicting interests by universal plunder. Instead of rooting out the injustices found in society, they make these injustices generalized. As soon as the plundered classes gain political power, they establish a system of reprisals against other classes. They do not abolish legal plunder. (This objective would demand more enlightenment than they possess.) Instead, they emulate their evil predecessors cont....",,Anonymous,the-law-bastiat-195x300.jpg,ql4r0XR0r9H+CEtvss/0Aw==,,,1505954780 142293725,142318188,2017-09-21 00:48:08,">>142318022 > Away, then, with quacks and organizers! A way with their rings, chains, hooks, and pincers! Away with their artificial systems! Away with the whims of governmental administrators, their socialized projects, their centralization, their tariffs, their government schools, their state religions, their free credit, their bank monopolies, their regulations, their restrictions, their equalization by taxation, and their pious moralizations! > And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty! Based Bastiat & only like 30 something page IIRC.",,Anonymous,bastiat-quote.jpg,zREj6YZNX3cIky9DX3Jeog==,,,1505954888 142293725,142318441,2017-09-21 00:51:07,">>142317761 I meant to hit the confederate flag, but i must have accidentally hit Commie, kek I am Hoppean.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505955067 142293725,142318523,2017-09-21 00:52:10,">>142297626 Friedman's ideas were not discredited at all. To the contrary Bernanke got his advice from Friedman, who would have also wanted to print money- just less. Glass Steegal repeal being responsible for 2008 is an utter leftist myth that was quickly discredited.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505955130 142293725,142318575,2017-09-21 00:52:57,">>142318188 > http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html Also the candlestick maker petiton is a crack up, destroys economic sophists while being pretty whitty at the same time.",,Anonymous,Bastiat_Govt_Great_Fiction.jpg,jKQIgPYgE/NdZoSiz+MzRg==,,,1505955177 142293725,142319199,2017-09-21 01:00:46,">>142317487 >I can use my own guns to defend myself and my family Notice how many countries today actually make defending yourself with lethal force a crime? That's no accident.",,Anonymous,convoy.jpg,T5mJJgQRsiR183SPeEkvPg==,,,1505955646 142293725,142319844,2017-09-21 01:08:35,">>142308714 that violates the nap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505956115 142293725,142320300,2017-09-21 01:14:23,">>142307682 Same, I've convinced my lady that marriage as a legal institution is bad (it is) and she doesn't mind when I talk about throwing Communists from helicopters. Women are wonderful once you figure out how to be dominant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505956463 142293725,142320502,2017-09-21 01:16:54,">>142319844 It doesn't really violate the NAP but it's such a ridiculous argument that it shows just how much our opponents have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find a single argument against libertarianism.",,Anonymous,american.png,F2p2VdUSuqZv57XHDMNnkQ==,,,1505956614 142293725,142320571,2017-09-21 01:17:45,">>142319199 It forms a reliance on the state. We can form militias with our friends, family, and neighbours to protect ourselves from any invadors or unwanted guests.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505956665 142293725,142320596,2017-09-21 01:18:06,">>142318441 i've found the confederate solution to the best for the us too, but what do you think of the homesteading act? i think we american anons should be autistic about this, as with this law in place we could start a covenant tomorrow.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505956686 142293725,142320683,2017-09-21 01:19:14,">>142320502 it actually does, as you are stealing my air, i didn't sell anyone my air.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505956754 142293725,142321162,2017-09-21 01:25:16,"Pls look at my shitty Hoppe vids, I plan to cover most of his available speeches with pleasant music for an easy introduction into Hoppean Snekism. pls gib views https://youtu.be/zc48cJWJxQs",,Anonymous,tolerance is bad mckay.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,US,,1505957116 142293725,142321231,2017-09-21 01:26:12,">>142320596 You mean where the government gave out public land to applicants?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505957172 142293725,142321485,2017-09-21 01:29:13,">>142321231 Yes, the condition was that you worked the land for 7 years and i think raised a family. was a good law i think.",,Anonymous,More small states pls.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,US,,1505957353 142293725,142321820,2017-09-21 01:33:37,">>142321162 I don't know many Hoppe speeches that are anything other than him just reading one of his books start to finish for an hour or two.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505957617 142293725,142321876,2017-09-21 01:34:19,Why do Austrian retards think Keynesianism is still somehow relevant? Austrians seem to be stuck in the 1940s.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505957659 142293725,142322038,2017-09-21 01:36:19,">>142293725 What are a few of your guys' stances on current healthcare reform?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505957779 142293725,142322081,2017-09-21 01:36:51,">>142321820 Fair point, i try to keep an ear to mises institute. He'll pop up sometime and i'll get new material",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505957811 142293725,142322109,2017-09-21 01:37:20,">>142321485 Agreed. > grow and raise your own food > defend your own land > raise your own children > able to take care of your children alongside your wife > free to trade goods with neighbours",,Anonymous,,,,,1505957840 142293725,142322246,2017-09-21 01:38:55,">>142322038 single payer for me pls. getting a tax penalties makes me wanna remove physically, so to speak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505957935 142293725,142322306,2017-09-21 01:39:40,">>142321876 Because literally 90-100% of world governments have recently used him as justifcation for their response to the GFC & the massive indebtidness of all governments of the world since 07/08/09? Because our unborn children have been sold into debt slavery by politicians speaking his name with his pupils standing behind them? Because Marxists & Neocons have used him as THE justification for using debt to massively increase the size of the state? Real question is why you reckon he's been irrelevant since the 40s? That's a curious statement I'd be interested in learning about.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505957980 142293725,142322334,2017-09-21 01:40:03,">>142322038 Privatise healthcare. It would be cheaper, and would be able to better serve the needs of the patients.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505958003 142293725,142322342,2017-09-21 01:40:06,">>142322109 yep, and a bunch of us coordinating on a small area would be wonderful. especially since the feds own half the land in the us now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958006 142293725,142322345,2017-09-21 01:40:07,This is the best argument for libertarianism ever written. Hoppe is a joke philosopher and economist.,,Anonymous,Huemer - Problem of Political Authority.jpg,5xSCkwldZlxwmt31Zj1hwA==,US,,1505958007 142293725,142322397,2017-09-21 01:40:46,So who's going to read Jeffrey Tucker's new book?,,Anonymous,51JTXjH0vDL._SY346_.jpg,41F4OG5Ckg8hhP66FiYjJA==,,,1505958046 142293725,142322418,2017-09-21 01:41:03,">>142322345 them be fighting words boi",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958063 142293725,142322496,2017-09-21 01:42:07,">>142322246 Dealing with high penalties rn? For what exactly?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958127 142293725,142322501,2017-09-21 01:42:11,">>142322397 seems like a good read, although judging by its subject, it seems like something i would already know",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958131 142293725,142322611,2017-09-21 01:43:29,">>142321876 >the fed still exists >corporate welfare and is still a thing >every goddamn econ textbook literally only teaches keynesianism >interest rates still too low not properly representing the market we haven't gotten anywhere, things just got infinitely worse",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958209 142293725,142322663,2017-09-21 01:44:08,">>142322496 i got lucky actually, a job i quit the beginning of last year covered me for the last tax cycle. this year though? i'm bracing my anus for tax evasion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958248 142293725,142322700,2017-09-21 01:44:36,">>142322345 That's a brilliant recommendation and while I get that Hoppe is a meme at this point but Argumentation Ethics is a brilliant contribution to the tradition & philosophy. I mean AE helped me understand exactly the basis of self-ownership, how it pertains to children, to cripples, to property, what property actually is, he's so logically rigorous...and he's got a bunch of great books I wouldn't call him a joke at all even though his words have been twisted into a joke.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505958276 142293725,142322721,2017-09-21 01:44:50,">>142322038 mixed feelings. I don't want them to compromise, I want them to scrap the whole goddamn thing altogether",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958290 142293725,142322746,2017-09-21 01:45:15,">>142322342 We could do away with democracy, and get things done ourselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505958315 142293725,142322844,2017-09-21 01:46:26,">>142322611 i remember actually reading those history books in grade school and learning keynesian economics and how they explained away that productivity doesn't matter, only the amount spent",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958386 142293725,142322876,2017-09-21 01:46:58,">>142322501 It is a response to the rise of the alt-right but an important part of it is his recent work (2015-17?) tracing the intellectual history of the alt-right, the fascists, the neocons all the way back through the betrayal of the american right, the fall of classical liberalism to hegel & the left/right statist/collectivist split. He gets attacked a lot but I reckon this will be an important job that someones got to do if we want to be anything other than a subsection of ""the right wing"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1505958418 142293725,142322924,2017-09-21 01:47:38,">>142322746 that sound like a dream, but good luck getting anyone to vote away their power of getting gibs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958458 142293725,142323023,2017-09-21 01:49:06,">>142322663 lel how did you file that? Did you deny ACA coverage? That's what will eat your wallet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958546 142293725,142323081,2017-09-21 01:49:59,">>142322876 thanks tucker, i'll buy your book. seem like i could learn something after all",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958599 142293725,142323191,2017-09-21 01:51:48,">>142322924 especially where I live, with all the niggers and spics. I'm surrounded by them. The high school I went to is full of subhumans who are degenerate as hell.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505958708 142293725,142323232,2017-09-21 01:52:28,">>142322611 The Fed existed before Keynesianism. I don't know why you people associate the Fed with Keynesianism with the Fed. It was the monetarists who thought the Fed should conduct monetary policy to stabilize the business cycle. Keynesians are the ones who prefer fiscal policy. >every goddamn econ textbook literally only teaches keynesianism You're retarded, dude. There's no mention of Keynesianism in microeconomics, labor economic or any topic outside of business cycle. Because Keynesianism isn't a broad theory of economics. It's just an outdated theory of business cycles. Keynesianism is only taught at the undergraduate level because textbooks have been outdated for decades. Graduate programs these days teach macroeconomic theories built from neoclassical microeconomic foundations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958748 142293725,142323294,2017-09-21 01:53:28,">>142323023 never filed i for aca coverage, i'd rather get wallet raped than feed obamas pocket, pride comes before the fall i guess, thats why i was hoping trump wouldn't flop on his tax plan or the obama thing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958808 142293725,142323312,2017-09-21 01:53:42,">>142323081 Yeah fuckin good. >>142322924 Oh we don't have to get people to vote for that, voting is just one part of it and best case scenario we use it to stem the time & either keep illegal or make illegal various alternatives that erod the pillars of statism. Alternatives to public education, alternatives to central banking, alternatives to the main stream media, to local social problems, to occupational licensing, to various restrictions & barriers to entry in certain industries etc",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505958822 142293725,142323431,2017-09-21 01:55:49,">>142323232 look man, you can't deny that Keynes made things worse. I'm not saying it's 100% all Keynes, but his work and the stuff based on it aren't helping at all and yeah there were some pretty shitty stuff before him *cough* Marx and friends *cough* but still you're taking it all too literally",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958949 142293725,142323434,2017-09-21 01:55:53,">>142323232 wasn't keynesianism created in the late 1700's? definitely before the fed and it IS taught in every book, i remember reading in multiple grade school books during my highschool years, sorry you didn't like learning and never skipped ahead of the lessons",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505958953 142293725,142323598,2017-09-21 01:58:38,">>142323191 are you from texas too? i'm from right along the border to mexico in texas, right by the gulf, i completly agree at least the niggers are even less the 10% of white people in all but one town down here, but their numbers swell...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505959118 142293725,142323651,2017-09-21 01:59:24,">>142323434 >wasn't keynesianism created in the late 1700's? no, John Maynard Keynes 1883 - 1946 came much later, his book came out 1936",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505959164 142293725,142323700,2017-09-21 02:00:11,">>142323434 >John Maynard Keynes, 1st Baron Keynes[2] CB FBA (/ˈkeJnz/ KAYNZ; 5 June 1883 – 21 April 1946), It's hard to tell if you're trolling or if you're actually this stupid. Some Austrians are this dumb.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505959211 142293725,142323825,2017-09-21 02:02:18,">>142323294 I don't expect it to go anywhere soon the next year or too. Best you could do rn would be to get a good employer to pay into coverage I guess",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505959338 142293725,142323845,2017-09-21 02:02:32,">>142323598 Georgia, actually. I live in the outskirts of Metro-Atlanta.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505959352 142293725,142323875,2017-09-21 02:03:01,">>142323312 I like what your saying anon, it all falls down to education, you control the kids and 20 years time you'll have your society. but the problem is obvious, that in our respective countries we'd be stopped by the political (((elites))) like the stopped ron paul, unless you can pull a trump or a hitler and go the populist route",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505959381 142293725,142323933,2017-09-21 02:03:59,">>142323431 It's also telling that Marxists themselves actually admitted in writting to eachother that they co-opted Keynes to justify their social programs & the welfare state on the road to Socialism that some of them thought was good enough. Neocons never fought them on this because they could use Keynes for their imperialist bullshit & crack down on freedoms.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505959439 142293725,142323965,2017-09-21 02:04:38,">>142323651 when your right you are right>>142323700",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505959478 142293725,142324026,2017-09-21 02:05:43,">>142323825 i'm not worried at least, tax evasion take decades for it to get prosecuted, some of my senpai has been going on 10+ years of not filing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505959543 142293725,142324048,2017-09-21 02:05:56,">>142323700 at least the lad is interested in economics, most people are downright criminally ignorant of how things work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505959556 142293725,142324266,2017-09-21 02:09:10,">>142323845 sounds horrid deus, houston and dallas are shit too now, especially the downtown. say, how long do you think it would take the feds to uproot us if we just squated on federal land somewhere? never heard of something like that happening, i doubt they have guys that patrol the land like that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505959750 142293725,142324301,2017-09-21 02:09:35,">>142323875 Holy shit my writting went full retard then. > stem the tide* > keep legal or make legal various alternatives* Yeah I agree with you 100%, politics is a lagging indicator we need to change the culture to change the voting outcomes. Our job is to spread the ideas to the open-minded and to the next generation, made easier by the internet but we are nowhere near active enough compared to what the marxists did over the last 100 years. Brazil is a brilliant example I like to use. 2.3 million facebook likes for the free brazil movement, a massive platform for redpilling their entire country of 200mil+ I mean fuck me look at the signs these people are marching around with. > less marx, more mises > who is john galt > privatize XYZ No one in the US/Aus even know who Mises was let alone have read his books & carry signs like that to mass protests.",,Anonymous,e71aac5385706795022181ee8083d0e0.jpg,8no48EUZqgGbSMWROOKzmQ==,,,1505959775 142293725,142324648,2017-09-21 02:15:04,,,Anonymous,1505843961408.png,cWQKiIMw7/V0hGLu2rEIEg==,,,1505960104 142293725,142324655,2017-09-21 02:15:14,">>142324301 our problem is that we are too spread, if we had an lrg kikebook rip off or something we could organize a lot easier, i've started my own facebook page to get the word out aswell though its small. and the people in my area(90 some hispanic) people simply don't care farther than a good fat happy life",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505960114 142293725,142324834,2017-09-21 02:17:36,">>142293725 How do you guys feel about Lichtenstein?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505960256 142293725,142325063,2017-09-21 02:21:15,">>142324266 I reckon it'd take a good number of men. But if we're armed, they'd likely be afraid to engage with us. They are human after all. Perhaps we could get some of the pigs to defect.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505960475 142293725,142325193,2017-09-21 02:23:04,">>142324655 Yeah, bit easier in Aus. We have the ALF (ALS) Australian Libertarian Forum of about 2k people and the LDP political party with about 90k which is decent for the population. I'd like to see those go up to 10k & 200k respectively and get a lot of more serious, less memes, less debates on random fringe shit & more about how to spread the ideas, get books/infographics/memes to people that don't yet know about us, get organized as a 3rd group during protests, hunt online for people making nice arguments and start talking to them about how they already agree with us or other ideas they might agree on even though they don't consider themselves Lib atm. Yanks are a conundrum, massive Liberty based culture, all the best intellectuals have spread their ideas there, the largest Libertarian party, the Ron Paul revolution, the opportunity of last election and they've done nothing with it. Could be leading the world as the best/biggest liberty movement but instead its like Brazil is doing the most and these idiots are going backwards. Its cool that people actually did the free state movement etc though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505960584 142293725,142325249,2017-09-21 02:24:04,">>142308714 The air isn't on your property, so that's not acceptable. If you can make a pump that will only take your air, that's fine. Same with factories and polution. If you can keep your poorly-disposed-of waste from sinking underground and leaving your property, it's fine, but if you can't, you need to stop what you're doing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505960644 142293725,142325257,2017-09-21 02:24:10,"I find it a bit odd that you list the YouTube video of my _Machinery of Freedom_ as the first thing in your recommended material but say that ""Open-border advocates ... are not welcome here."" The book that interview is based on contains a chapter arguing for open borders. For anyone who wants to read it, there are links to the (free) second edition and the (not free) third at the top of my web page: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/",,David Friedman,,,US,,1505960650 142293725,142325357,2017-09-21 02:25:43,">>142309382 >meme includes propertarians doing god's work anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505960743 142293725,142325406,2017-09-21 02:26:30,">>142324834 > no military > sends convicts to Austria > Switzerland deals with its foreign relations > leeches off everyone elses culture because it's a fake country",,Anonymous,,,,,1505960790 142293725,142325409,2017-09-21 02:26:33,Does the NAP apply to Niggers? I think they fall firmly outside the human spectrum.,,Anonymous,1505551473032.jpg,H+/tp9YoRAeeITzyQTpthQ==,,,1505960793 142293725,142325492,2017-09-21 02:27:50,">>142325406 https://jacobitemag.com/2017/08/04/why-liechtenstein-works-self-determination-and-market-governance/ Read this. I'm going to pick up Hans-Adam's book, soon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505960870 142293725,142325532,2017-09-21 02:28:30,"Is it sad that I unironically find the only ""meme"" the commies have against us to be funny? It makes me laugh every time I look at it.",,Anonymous,mz3_fM9J_400x400.jpg,YSwt0Tyhv9qrlSSh6uwO/g==,,,1505960910 142293725,142325628,2017-09-21 02:29:50,">>142325409 Their existence is a threat to our survival. Their IQs, culture, and behaviour are simply incompatable with that of functional humans. After thousands of years, Africans couldn't do what took Europeans less than a hundred to do. And when the Europeans left, Africans turned their land to shit. By existing, they are a threat to our wellbeing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505960990 142293725,142325801,2017-09-21 02:32:20,">>142324834 we need more of them",,Anonymous,demcracy as asylum.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,US,,1505961140 142293725,142325852,2017-09-21 02:33:06,">>142325409 >Dresden >Tokyo firebombing >Hiroshima >The Holocaust Do white people follow outside the human spectrum? White are just too violent. They must be physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505961186 142293725,142325881,2017-09-21 02:33:27,">>142325852 *fall outside",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505961207 142293725,142325902,2017-09-21 02:33:49,">>142325063 but how long would you think it would take for the feds to find us? i've never heard of any department that just patrols ALL federal land, cause there's no point",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505961229 142293725,142325964,2017-09-21 02:34:40,">>142325257 Austrian xenophobes BTFO",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505961280 142293725,142326177,2017-09-21 02:37:50,">>142325193 i'm in texas so everyone always wants succession every time anything happens, our liberty caucus is quite strong, but its predictably gains a lot of opposition. i'm trying to figure out a way to support it, we need to get a discord started so we can share/make flyers for our members to pass out in your local area, with hopefully a weblink to a helpful page",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505961470 142293725,142326258,2017-09-21 02:39:02,">>142325852 I'd rather live one day in Dresden and get firebombed than live in Detroit or any other Nigger city. The smell alone is hell.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505961542 142293725,142326279,2017-09-21 02:39:20,">>142325852 >i dunno what evolution or genetics is XDDD the post",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505961560 142293725,142326429,2017-09-21 02:41:46,">>142325257 >>142325964 How does letting in millions of low-IQ, Democrat voting socialists into the country help the cause of freedom? How does letting in zealots, whose entire religion revolves around violating the rights of nonbelievers, help the cause of freedom?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505961706 142293725,142326508,2017-09-21 02:43:00,">>142326429 don't be a racist goyim, diversity is your strength, stay out of israel tho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505961780 142293725,142326531,2017-09-21 02:43:16,">>142326177 Flyers and shit are a great way. I had the idea of making a red pill box, fill it with some flyers, infographics, memes & small books, maybe a USB stick with some good short videos on there & just spread them everywhere, hand them out, legally dump them in public for kids & people to find whatever make it go viral around the world like the killer clown thing but for us. One thing I can't get out my mind though is finding a way to crowd fund a small comic, something outlining our history from the rise of Liberalism to today showing the people that carried the torch, how Mises, Hayek & Rand had to flee the communists & fascists, how Leonard Reed kept the flame alive until it was reignited recently. I think a powerful visual comic would do great things for inspiring people instead of this ridiculous pessimism. The video version of I, pencil did wonders for explaining the market, I just can't fucking write or draw.",,Anonymous,RedPill.jpg,siQ5hCDmW9CS2WoDvvPFnw==,,,1505961796 142293725,142326593,2017-09-21 02:44:24,">>142326429 A people should have the right to decide who lives alongside them. If a government decides to have open boards, and its people support it, that's fine. And if one decides the opposite, that's fine. Immigration isn't a make-or-break issue for being a libertarian. I just know which side I'd support.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505961864 142293725,142326767,2017-09-21 02:47:21,">>142325492 This definitely changes my mind. Thanks for sharing with me. >>142325902 Not all federal land. From what I can gather, it would be under the jurisdiction of the Department of the Interior. They would likely use Rangers, or Park Police. They could make an appeal to Trump to call in the Naitonal Guard, or state guards. But how long would it take? If we go deep innawoods, we could easily last months, methinks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505962041 142293725,142326839,2017-09-21 02:48:42,">>142293725 >>142294993 I'm a big fan of Paul Craig Roberts myself paulcraigroberts.org/pages/about-paul-craig-roberts/ >Dr. Roberts has held academic appointments at Virginia Tech, Tulane University, University of New Mexico, Stanford University where he was Senior Research Fellow in the Hoover Institution, George Mason University where he had a joint appointment as professor of economics and professor of business administration, and Georgetown University where he held the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy in the Center for Strategic and International Studies. ""How the Economy was Lost"" by Paul Craig Roberts https://web.archive.org/web/20090227125552/https://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02242009.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505962122 142293725,142326924,2017-09-21 02:50:33,">>142326767 Glad to share. Someone posted that on /his/, and now, while I had been a Libertarian-leaning conservative in the first place, I am completely converted. I can't wait for the book to arrive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505962233 142293725,142326974,2017-09-21 02:51:16,">>142326531 those boxes sound wonderful, if only geocaching was thing still. perfect system in place. the comic should be started here, by waiting for a drawfag to browse and hopefully he'll be interested.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505962276 142293725,142326997,2017-09-21 02:51:36,">>142326531 Mass movements will never work....",,Anonymous,IMG_0292.png,wzIJWTIeNOmSdn8PMV7g5Q==,RU,,1505962296 142293725,142327149,2017-09-21 02:53:55,">>142326767 would be longer than months, i hope, there's a reason its the wilderness. i'm pinning my reasoning on that people go missing all the time in the wilderness and live out there without ever being found, cause nobody goes out there, least of all the feds, and hell anther waco sounds like a blast",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505962435 142293725,142327161,2017-09-21 02:54:07,">>142326839 >>>142293725 (OP) >>>142294993 Crud I word the wrong credential on Paul Craig Roberts >President Reagan appointed Dr. Roberts Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and he was confirmed in office by the U.S. Senate. From 1975 to 1978, Dr. Roberts served on the congressional staff where he drafted the Kemp-Roth bill and played a leading role in developing bipartisan support for a supply-side economic policy. After leaving the Treasury, he served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense and the U.S. Department of Commerce https://web.archive.org/web/20090227125552/https://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02242009.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505962447 142293725,142327232,2017-09-21 02:55:00,">>142326997 This is a lie because people vote every 2 years. You just have to be able to herd the sheeple and make progress one step at a time. Trump is an example of this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505962500 142293725,142327309,2017-09-21 02:56:11,">>142326531 Get off 4chan pleb normie, you are infecting everything with your faux-red pill garbage. Stop talking when you have nothing good to say",,Anonymous,IMG_1011.gif,RhcmB7gBJLUf/MRQki1sNQ==,RU,,1505962571 142293725,142327326,2017-09-21 02:56:24,">>142326997 Maybe, maybe not. It's not necessarily about ""mass movement"" but influencing culture. Marxists have done exactly that for 100 years and look where they've gotten. >>142326974 > drawfags Brilliant idea, get a few over time to come up with some aesthetics & choose the best.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505962584 142293725,142327480,2017-09-21 02:58:46,">>142326997 you are right... very bitter pill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505962726 142293725,142327635,2017-09-21 03:01:13,">>142327149 We could start our own farms in there, actually. Sandbag forts, trenches, and farms. Sounds pretty fuckin' good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505962873 142293725,142327670,2017-09-21 03:01:47,">>142327326 you don't disprove his image, that the point, you can use the system to get them liking liberty, but you can't get them to think. do we got any young pics of our main men? btw a cute slice of life would have a potent effect,",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505962907 142293725,142327677,2017-09-21 03:01:57,">>142327232 Trump is an establishment shill. He would of never made it to the voting box if he was a real threat to the establishment. The cnn was the sacrificial lamb to make the goys believe the rouse. Again I say, trump is not on our side... anyone who can look st the facts can see that. Wake up.. the only way to stop the establishment is with violent revolution. Ironmarch.org < for serious users ready to advance to the next stage of red pill. No normie fags (this means YOU)",,Anonymous,IMG_0785.png,P2LdZkhzMHVasnkZnadlNA==,RU,,1505962917 142293725,142327704,2017-09-21 03:02:24,">>142327635 and a very good fire fighting system, i'm not planning to become a waco bbq",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505962944 142293725,142327775,2017-09-21 03:03:24,This kills the ancap,,Anonymous,Natural Monopoly.png,Fi2qZUz3lFbxd20uHBHQ3g==,US,,1505963004 142293725,142327833,2017-09-21 03:04:22,">>142306456 The vast majority of people will die, as well they should. At work we're automating engineering and programming jobs right now. STEM jobs are the easiest to automate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505963062 142293725,142327954,2017-09-21 03:06:21,">>142327833 >implying this is a desirable outcome Oh but I'm sure your career is perfectly safe",,Anonymous,1500681224622.jpg,2tfKeGlKw0YK8KUjDjeZRw==,US,,1505963181 142293725,142328130,2017-09-21 03:08:55,">>142327670 Yeah it is a bitter pill, especially the ""only responds to propaganda from the dominant force"" certainly rings parallels but I've read how the Marxists have done it and we have much bigger avenues to spread ideas than they did, they weren't the dominant force and we are hitting some nice peaks of people distrusting the system and to some degree its ability to provide these wants, especially when the debt hens come home to roost. If anything I'd like to use that little book if the author wouldn't sue me. >>142327775 I bet you think it does.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505963335 142293725,142328168,2017-09-21 03:09:20,">>142327326 Yes and Marxists have had over 100 years head start. You are playing their game and you will never win.. in fact you are making the real revolutionaries job harder... just stop pushing your shit and educate yourself",,Anonymous,IMG_0784.jpg,TmMd7MxkB8iUWavyIzAUNQ==,RU,,1505963360 142293725,142328169,2017-09-21 03:09:23,">>142327954 I'm pretty lucky in that my area is hard to automate. People who work with numbers and code are pretty easy to automate though as I'm learning right now. In a generation or so most humans just won't be needed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505963363 142293725,142328212,2017-09-21 03:10:10,">>142327704 they'd smoke us out for sure. >>142327775 Regulations definitely cause certain businiesses to be more difficult to start.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505963410 142293725,142328297,2017-09-21 03:11:26,">>142328169 >most humans just won't be needed. Economy exists to serve humans, not the other way around",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505963486 142293725,142328454,2017-09-21 03:13:47,">>142327480 It's not a bitter pill, it's just a bigger red pill, not my problem you weak kids can't handle the taste and spit it back out. Go back to redit if you can't handle the truth. You people came here and ruined my board with your weak blue pill rhetoric. We let you people stay but instead of soaking in knowledge you simply took a little red pill and spend your time spewing your corrupt philosophy",,Anonymous,IMG_0788.png,rSQwhCFsT0TZ84VlT3A0tQ==,RU,,1505963627 142293725,142328639,2017-09-21 03:16:27,">>142327232 People (((vote))) for the best of the (((chosen candidates))... take more red pills normie",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505963787 142293725,142328657,2017-09-21 03:16:44,">>142328212 yep they would, thats why our guns are gonna need to be bigger. whatever that means the avenues marxist used are simply not available to us, when they took over they were tolerated, they know this and will not tolerate our way of thinking. as well they were able to use (((hollywood))) very effectively, something we simply cannot counter. we should not play their game, we need our own way to fight, before we get to bullets, we need to convince enough of the other 10% not hard to do in theory but simply hard given that we need to blaze our own trail here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505963804 142293725,142328712,2017-09-21 03:17:49,>tfw at the point that the only way to not be stepped on is going to give free helicopter rides to those sub 95 IQ for my Civic Nationalistic ideal to exist.,,Anonymous,AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.gif,2dwnpcXXfTEWnR+55Zl5XQ==,US,,1505963869 142293725,142328760,2017-09-21 03:18:36,">>142328168 Fucking hell. Rockwell was an accelerationist? So far ahead of his time. He must have been a truly god tier genius.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505963916 142293725,142328796,2017-09-21 03:19:10,">>142328657 forgot to link to you>>142328130",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505963950 142293725,142328814,2017-09-21 03:19:31,">>142328657 To be perfectly honest, we'd have to work off the emotions of normie rednecks. Wait for a liberal to be in office and for taxation to be increased. Then we say ""if we pay taxes, then we should live on government free of charge.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1505963971 142293725,142328871,2017-09-21 03:20:35,">>142328712 And this is why it ends bad when they box people into a corner. Especially white people.",,Anonymous,1499583785001.jpg,krf+a1d1/oBjH+TyL6J03w==,,,1505964035 142293725,142328937,2017-09-21 03:21:40,">>142328657 You don't need you convince anyone but yourself... you can successfully lone wolf fight the government yourself if you have the mind, soul and spirit.. stop playing their game, it's a losing battle that is lost from the start. Violent revolution is the only way.. revolution or death",,Anonymous,IMG_0962.jpg,MZQozqhFOBXFt0ws615W/g==,RU,,1505964100 142293725,142329009,2017-09-21 03:22:44,">>142293725 Reminder that a libertarian system sounds good in theory but wouldnt work due to the similar fact communism wouldnt work",,Anonymous,,,,,1505964164 142293725,142329036,2017-09-21 03:23:07,">>142328712 But remember, a gene pool is a collective. If you didn't have 95 IQ people, you wouldn't have the 105 IQ people either. It's like, without branches, you wouldn't have leaves on your tree. Two 95 IQ people can reproduce to create a 140 IQ person. When you have an integrated gene pool, the probability that a genius is produced is low. Someone has to get just the right combination of genes, there will be plenty of people who got slightly different combinations who have low IQ's. They still have the same genetic material, just a slightly different combination. If you pare off the lower range, you're going to fuck up the entire gene pool. Like slicing off all the lower branches of a tree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505964187 142293725,142329050,2017-09-21 03:23:18,">>142328871 I don't give a fuck about race. If you can't compete with those you claim to be inferior, you already are a lost cause. The issue comes down solely due to people being dumb as fuck. Tyrone and Bubba are getting those rides after the Commies and Socialist if they show how retarded they are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505964198 142293725,142329061,2017-09-21 03:23:36,">>142328760 He used the full capacity of his brain unlike you (((ancap))) scum >>142328871 Stop spreading this picture around pleb.. go back to red,dit",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505964216 142293725,142329098,2017-09-21 03:24:25,">>142329050 >>142329061 I can tell it is very effective by the level of butthurt it causes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505964265 142293725,142329182,2017-09-21 03:26:06,">>142329050 ""I don't give a fuck about race"" >>142329098 Wow son you really got me going with that 1D trolling, just make sure it doesn't affect your grades.",,Anonymous,IMG_1152.png,Zr1wd2GMuP9FiBfWSfRqSA==,,,1505964366 142293725,142329205,2017-09-21 03:26:24,">>142293725 Making anti-cultural marxist propaganda, feel free to help research. >>142322974 >>142322974 >>142322974",,Anonymous,,,,,1505964384 142293725,142329238,2017-09-21 03:26:54,">>142328454 >getting this butthurt fuck you too m8, wanting to help your people and only your people while thinking of the truth on races isn't a nazi thing. i'm reading mein kampf and its obvious hitler didn't care to question economics and its unquestioned that the reason he lost the war was that in centralizing too much power he didn't allow the military to move about, he clearly didn't understand the role of the leader and economics. read some hoppe you cunt",,Anonymous,Liber no dgen.png,hri4LVvsHDKu5n7MzVm4eg==,US,,1505964414 142293725,142329273,2017-09-21 03:27:27,">>142329050 white people compete best as a team. On a man to man basis, the average white person is no match for a jew. They are simply more clever, more underhanded, more intelligent. Not a fair fight. But a white nation will outcompete a jewish nation, because white people have high trust, high altruism, jews don't. In Europe, it was basically a competition for who could create the best nation-state. This is why white people evolved this way. A white nation is like a perfect military machine. All members working to be part of the larger national organism in tandem, the entire society unified Thus, no other people on earth can compete with Europeans on the battlefield. If the battlefield were the test of survival, Europeans would dominate the globe easily and without reservation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hWg_N1EkIc",,Anonymous,8c5e27a61c891ec57f3c0e871d5c437a.jpg,jF4nphyJHsV/PA6HHVxDeg==,US,,1505964447 142293725,142329282,2017-09-21 03:27:33,">>142329036 >Genes and IQ argument. No one ever looks into the rest of the research behind all of that to find that IQ is much more affected by environment then genes. Genes contribute to possibly about 40% of someone's IQ at the most.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505964453 142293725,142329346,2017-09-21 03:28:50,">>142329282 >IQ is much more affected by environment then genes. lel no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw3S35wGgT8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505964530 142293725,142329351,2017-09-21 03:28:51,">>142329282 >Genes still heavily impact IQ. Thanks for pointing that out, anon",,Anonymous,,,,,1505964531 142293725,142329389,2017-09-21 03:29:31,">>142306456 False directive multiplication, and the fear that consequential philosophy may dictate a divergent reality whereby machines begin replicating their own hemisphere of supply and demand that cross-prices with ours. Unless we've reached a system whereby each machine can functionally correct for its failure and mistakes, and it can run indefinitely without depreciation and decay, then full automation is left to a class of competition among the gods of machines.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505964571 142293725,142329417,2017-09-21 03:30:04,Man when did all the Nazi cucks plague this place.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505964604 142293725,142329438,2017-09-21 03:30:28,">>142328937 >you can do it if you dream hard enough!!! while thats nice and all your going anywhere without a mob at your back to bust down the doors and hang the men that need hanging",,Anonymous,HANGPOLITICIANS.jpg,nHa8dBiUUajW45AZVyeguA==,US,,1505964628 142293725,142329451,2017-09-21 03:30:44,">>142329238 You don't know what you are talking about, please stop before you cog dis yourself into further misinterpreting all of our fash propaganda",,Anonymous,,,,,1505964644 142293725,142329460,2017-09-21 03:30:50,I can't stand modern society and the people who inhabit it besides you guys. Imma grab my gun and go into the woods...,,Anonymous,1477622066404.jpg,0mNS+N9KshQZoYjDREnrng==,US,,1505964650 142293725,142329470,2017-09-21 03:31:01,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,mussoliniman.jpg,GE+FnHklw7TVhlki5/ImHA==,NL,,1505964661 142293725,142329520,2017-09-21 03:31:43,">>142329282 >IQ is much more affected by environment then genes Nope, the overwhelming evidence points to the opposite. g is heavily hereditary, your environment as a child doesn't significantly add to your adult IQ. Tons of studies to support this listed here: https://pastebin.com/Q1hMEC4a",,Anonymous,minnesota_transracial_adoption.jpg,l8T1Tkn+TMRdvkIfHApi4g==,,,1505964703 142293725,142329566,2017-09-21 03:32:35,">>142329460 There's a thing for that. Go innawoods and grab ya kit for a fun time. Try to survive and learn your own resourcefulness tactics, and come back and write a best-selling survival guide or a chronicled adventure. Or do it again.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505964755 142293725,142329631,2017-09-21 03:33:53,">>142329451 i'll have all my cog dis thankyou very much and none for you. besides, fascist don't really care about race, they usually tread some weird line between utter economic retardation(yet still trying) and only caring about social policies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505964833 142293725,142329669,2017-09-21 03:34:30,">>142329438 I don't even know where to start with you, everything you are saying is simply wrong. Revolutionaries don't need mobs, and plus the lemmings will never mob unless its overwhelmingly obvious it will be in their benefit, and at that time you would of already won the battle. You yourself can fight the beast system with your own two hands... the huge beast system is slow and is most recepitble to small attacks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505964870 142293725,142329782,2017-09-21 03:36:36,">>142329631 >corporatism >economic retardation",,Anonymous,IlDuce.jpg,dOOtcmc4GnvciXl/43zLFg==,NL,,1505964996 142293725,142329809,2017-09-21 03:36:57,">>142329470 right and left is considered this to us >the right believe that all are diverse and unique and embrace these differences to create a status quo >the left explain away differences like this in favor of the explanation that these differences are caused by external factors, and that an external force(a state to libertarians) can equalize them",,Anonymous,state vs degeneracy.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,US,,1505965017 142293725,142329843,2017-09-21 03:37:28,">>142329631 You are talking from a position of ignorance whether a troll or not. You either have not educated yourself on fascism beyond meme tier. Or you aren't intelligent enough to comprehend the source material. Get off this site until you understand my blue piled sad state of existence",,Anonymous,,,,,1505965048 142293725,142329858,2017-09-21 03:37:45,"Nonviolence is for the weak Wake up libertarians, it's the strong who have the Right to Rule. Feel the blood pumping in your veins, the testosterone pouring forth through your muscles. Feel the thrill of battle, that inner desire to see your enemies flee before your mighty footsteps. It's in your blood, deep down you can feel it. The call of the battlefield. There is a hero inside you desperate to unleash his power. Violence is not evil, violence is wonderful. Embrace your destiny. Libera et Impera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt0vSdbYxy0",,Anonymous,crusader.jpg,n7eQvumcQf21LHS5sALqng==,US,,1505965065 142293725,142329995,2017-09-21 03:40:03,">>142329858 Well said brother, hope to see you on the battlefield.. Save a few for me",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505965203 142293725,142330150,2017-09-21 03:42:35,"It pains me to say but the truth is we need all 4 aspect. We need the strong militaristic state for defense that only fascism can provide. We need the unrivaled economic power than only totally free markets can produce. We need the spiritual guidance from a religious cult to keep society together. And we need unyielding racism that keeps this organism healthy and free of subversion. Hard to combine, especially racism and religion. But if you leave out even just one the construct will die.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505965355 142293725,142330154,2017-09-21 03:42:35,">>142329782 corporatism is actually what we got as the jews can only move in on americans businesses turf and subvert its ceos to their cause the deep state is exactly that, and its shit those huge corporations that control the gov only make regulations to snub down smaller businesses and create a prison of the worst kind, only commies would be worse(cause they were inefficient as hell) as now that same controlling gov inevitably will actively keep its citizens businesses down to maintain the old money. like whats happening in the us, but without the fascists to kill the buisness owners instead of just buying them out or outselling them",,Anonymous,Whynostate.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,US,,1505965355 142293725,142330184,2017-09-21 03:43:10,">you are free to do what you want >eww not that, it's libertine",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1505965390 142293725,142330234,2017-09-21 03:43:59,">>142329809 both libertarianism and socialism are revolutionary ideologies. Being egalitarian or not doesnt change a thing. Reactionary ideologies will always remain the only right-wing ideologies >>142330154 t. doesnt know what corporatism is",,Anonymous,a1ab1c07af56ddcea7f5824356ea3dbf.jpg,qQxxYfC0A86I/CMVqfthZA==,NL,,1505965439 142293725,142330284,2017-09-21 03:44:34,">>142330150 Do you even know what Fascism is? Your lack of understanding is utterly embarrassing. Consider everything you say discarded into the trash. Typical ancap scum",,Anonymous,IMG_0964.png,mF7wxWOq94Fi6wdLjyRXvg==,RU,,1505965474 142293725,142330297,2017-09-21 03:44:47,">>142329843 ignorant, not much on fascism desu, aside from pol and the rare fash general(that's never around when i'm able to read), information on fascism is very muddled and hard to come by as the only examples were really italy and ancient rome sometimes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505965487 142293725,142330438,2017-09-21 03:47:03,">>142330284 Fascism is not a third position. It's firmly on the left with the other big state ideas. But it's the best of them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505965623 142293725,142330506,2017-09-21 03:48:14,"Ultimate oldfag chiming in. You are fucking idiots the entire government is the enemy, Antifa and ""Nazi""s are illegitimate archetypes. The entire fucking world is here to kill you. The worlds elite which has existed for 1000s and 10s of thousands of years are child rapists and sick depraved individuals. THE WORLD IS RAN BY SICK INDIVIDUALS.",,Anonymous,20090414-potd.jpg,1WgQfZO/BwFuCCOrdT16vQ==,US,,1505965694 142293725,142330515,2017-09-21 03:48:21,">>142330234 then what is right and left? enlighten me as well as corporatism, cause it sounds like business and large financial entities are the ones represented in government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505965701 142293725,142330544,2017-09-21 03:48:48,">>142330297 You know you are typing on the internet, the world of information at your finger tips, the only excuse you can give for being an uneducated blue pill tard is you are too lazy or stupid to actually learn anything of substance. People like you are the ones who ruin this board..... this is s message to all noobs,normie and plebs... you are welcome to come here and read, but if you don't know fuck all about anything then don't open your mouth and spout lies.",,Anonymous,IMG_0963.jpg,DxWxPlfe+iIMI1wVewy8fw==,RU,,1505965728 142293725,142330656,2017-09-21 03:50:39,">>142307682 It's brilliant isn't it?",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1505965839 142293725,142330668,2017-09-21 03:50:51,">>142330506 Found the scitzo. Everything has existed since it existed, and using a causality fallacy to delude yourself only shows how retared you are...",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505965851 142293725,142330686,2017-09-21 03:51:09,">>142330544 i actually did try to research it, but as i said, any information is obviously biased and it doesn't go beyond very vague explanations of fascism",,Anonymous,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,US,,1505965869 142293725,142330733,2017-09-21 03:51:57,">>142330438 Again you are so ignorant you don't even know what you are talking about. What is the definition of Fascism?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505965917 142293725,142330742,2017-09-21 03:52:04,">>142330668 >causality fallacy found the fucking fruitcake",,Anonymous,montoya.jpg,0/fwqQgJvSK+Ym0pbW572Q==,US,,1505965924 142293725,142330787,2017-09-21 03:52:45,">>142330515 >then what is right and left? enlighten me just told you >cause it sounds like business and large financial entities are the ones represented in government its the de different facets of society (think guilds) operating as limbs of a body with the state at its head",,Anonymous,Musso8.jpg,IWJQh6NWmMOJEpvG6P7tww==,NL,,1505965965 142293725,142330797,2017-09-21 03:52:57,">>142330544 > doesnt provide any useful info for a genuine questions > waah you ruin this board Too bad you don't believe in property rights cunt, this is the tragedy of the common at work, public ownership so to speak. Fuck you half of this board was Libertarian clay when Ron Paul exploded. Btw you're not an intellectual, you think you know things but ya dont.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505965977 142293725,142330825,2017-09-21 03:53:28,>>142330686,,Anonymous,1442965990110.png,3wKaIdMs4o8prftcFO6VJQ==,NL,,1505966008 142293725,142330900,2017-09-21 03:54:54,">>142330733 The opposite of democracy. Which is a good idea. As long as it doesn't get subverted.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505966094 142293725,142330941,2017-09-21 03:55:32,">>142330686 You know whats funny. Jeffrey Tucker has read more Fascist literature than 95% of Fascis on this board. If you want to read them lookup the authors hes traced through history, Grants, Hegel, Evola etc. Article on the prehistory of the alt-right on FEE is a great start.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505966132 142293725,142330994,2017-09-21 03:56:27,">>142330515 Right: seeking to preserve the traditional way of life of humanity. Tradition, culture, history, ethnicity....all of that which makes the traditional way of human life possible. Left: attempting to destroy and erase tradition. Erase borders and distinctions between people. Take the raw material of humanity and shape it into a different plan, based on ideology, or some futuristic vision. Right seeks to preserve humanity, left seeks to evolve humanity into something else. That's why I classify libertarianism and capitalism as left. This is a globalist ideology that seeks to tear down borders between people, and assimilate all into one giant global economy. Economic productivity is the sole value, not heritage, tradition, or history. You even hear hardcore libertarians talk about how they expect their economic ideas to be eugenic, essentially taking the raw genetic material of the various people's of the world and assimilating it into a global economic engine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy44ocuoWhE I associate ""right wing"" with a rural environment. Tradition, nature, and religion are high values. I associate ""left wing"" with an urban environment. The only thing that matters is chasing the dollar, paving over the natural environment with an artificial concrete jungle. A departure from nature and tradition",,Anonymous,1478141647888.jpg,bpvsI5sYh54bOWy30JtHaQ==,US,,1505966187 142293725,142331014,2017-09-21 03:56:43,">>142330742 Thanks for not combating my argument and using outdated memes that don't even match. Of course many groups have existed for long periods of time, but it's irrelevant because it contains no substance to form an ideology or worldview of life... its as irrelevant as the ancient aliens meme.... .....",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505966203 142293725,142331043,2017-09-21 03:57:19,">>142330733 an authoritarian state that is based around tradition and usually structured around a strong leader, usually as in the case of rome and athens, its always because of liberal leanings and a lose of culture that precedes fascism, that can only happen in democratic societies as those are the only that can spawn the type of descendancy for it. and what is the left? all you said is that reactionary is a right wing thing. what is left then? what is a non reactionary right movement?",,Anonymous,Hans on immagrations.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,US,,1505966239 142293725,142331213,2017-09-21 04:00:16,">>142330994 so that would make fascism, as well the hoppen movement right wing as nazism. really sucks though, my libertarian movement is utterly infested with no state marxists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505966416 142293725,142331305,2017-09-21 04:01:55,">>142330797 I provide more quality responses to more intelligent posters. You scarecrow my arguments and call me names because you don't even know what fascism actual is.",,Anonymous,IMG_0946.png,L/LDen9w1ENqNoqEZmtxlA==,,,1505966515 142293725,142331311,2017-09-21 04:02:05,">>142331043 >based around tradition no its not >non-reactionary right wing movement doesnt exist",,Anonymous,A00077559.jpg,I25G0Nw9lX8WfQrUg4ZmxQ==,NL,,1505966525 142293725,142331346,2017-09-21 04:02:56,">>142331014 Outdated memes?",,Anonymous,TrollFace.jpg,fd6w5LB/JlJrrkpjTRBnpg==,US,,1505966576 142293725,142331361,2017-09-21 04:03:12,">>142331043 Wrong on so many levels. This is like explaining the birds and the bees to a 5 year old",,Anonymous,,,,,1505966592 142293725,142331373,2017-09-21 04:03:24,">>142331305 I know what it is, I dont give a fuck about it right now because this is /lrg/ mate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505966604 142293725,142331393,2017-09-21 04:03:55,">>142331213 True. Nazism wants to discriminate based on race and ideology. We want that too. But we also want to be able to discriminate on everything else.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505966635 142293725,142331463,2017-09-21 04:04:57,">>142331213 I am really bad at explaining, let me try just one more time: Right wing: humans adapt to the environment. For example, in Europe, humans adapt light skin, different digestive system to accomodate the local flora and fauna....etc. Left wing: humans use technology to adapt. For example, using sunscreen to block out high levels of sunlight. Paving over the unique natural environments with concrete. Basically, tearing up and destroying the traditional cultures that are rooted to the land around the world, in favor of one globalist culture.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505966697 142293725,142331623,2017-09-21 04:07:44,"I understand that this is a big meme question, but who builds the roads in an ANCAP society. is it a crowd funded effort or is there still a small pseudo-government the takes care of those sorts of thing. i really want to believe that an ANCAP society is possible but im hung up on a few factors. >please no hate",,Anonymous,please no.png,/Th/l/Jlr/TLk6cqifjR3A==,,,1505966864 142293725,142331683,2017-09-21 04:08:50,">>142331623 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=874ZbBlO87w",,Anonymous,,,,,1505966930 142293725,142331753,2017-09-21 04:10:10,">>142331373 Ancap fag ""knows"" what Fascism is but is still an ancap. >>142331393 ""Nazism wants to discriminate based on race and ideology"". Wow you are so dense fuck stop strawmanning",,Anonymous,IMG_0876.jpg,Il6b5aIuw+K0CM7LSUcYrA==,,,1505967010 142293725,142331802,2017-09-21 04:10:55,">>142331623 The government. By the way, government doesn't mean state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505967055 142293725,142331951,2017-09-21 04:13:30,">>142331753 Yeah I just have different values, different methods & different goals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505967210 142293725,142332002,2017-09-21 04:14:26,">>142331463 Right wing: humans build buildings and houses out of local materials found on site. The architecture is shaped by history, tradition, national identity Left wing: the shape of the buildings is homegenized for a global traveler. Only consideration is functionality, cost efficiency...etc. Loses the local unique heritage that grew there for generations",,Anonymous,1480254332435.jpg,GqZ99tp9CWGKalLcopKK2A==,US,,1505967266 142293725,142332131,2017-09-21 04:16:30,">>142330825 quite a read, and i disagree with a core tenet, that that the state creates the people and is somehow always right. yet also its duty is towards the people, the people that cannot object, as they give the state life, this is simply illogical. however in the context of believing that all people are lemming it is indeed the best way to rule over retards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505967390 142293725,142332216,2017-09-21 04:17:50,">>142331951 The fact that you write that shows you don't understand Fascism. Let me give you a hint, something akin to ""anarcho capitalism"" CAN exist under Fascism.... now stay away from this board until you are educated. This is politically incorrect, and your grade 10 ideology is very correct",,Anonymous,,,,,1505967470 142293725,142332222,2017-09-21 04:18:00,">>142332002 It goes far deeper than that. Left wing architecture is not just soulless. It is truly and purposely anti human. For building like, to crush the human spirit is just an important feature as keeping the rain out.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505967480 142293725,142332225,2017-09-21 04:18:04,"As a fucking die hard libertarian this entire political atmosphere is completely ass backwards retarded. Everyone needs to realize the fucking governments at it's highest echelons is deeply involved in pedophilia. Seriously. That's fucking it. Shouldn't that piss us all off enough to burn 'em where they stand?",,Anonymous,1471955388408.webm,PXAmgcGpBngU0lp223SyCA==,US,,1505967484 142293725,142332304,2017-09-21 04:19:21,">>142331463 sorry if i'm causing a headache, but it sounds like my explanation >>142329809",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505967561 142293725,142332310,2017-09-21 04:19:32,">>142332216 > something akin to ""anarcho capitalism"" CAN exist under Fascism We know. that's why you should stop attacking everything like an autist and start working together against Democracy, Socialism and Communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505967572 142293725,142332405,2017-09-21 04:21:10,">>142332225 Needs to be exposed to build outrage and distrust of the state, big time. >>142332216 Recommend me something since you assume im wrong. > you are very correct Why thank you I like my ideology to be correct. > Ancap can exist under fascism Riiiiiight flibbidy fitang biscuit barrels to you mistress chang.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505967670 142293725,142332432,2017-09-21 04:21:49,">>142332225 All tied back to the Jews and shabbo slaves, looks like someone hasn't read the Talmud or other Jewish books and blaming everything on (((ancient groups))) go back to red.dit fag >>142332310 Working together with plebs who don't even understand the basics. It's true that one rather have a skinhead to an evolafag. But I am not scraping the bottom of the barrel for these lemming plebs",,Anonymous,,,,,1505967709 142293725,142332446,2017-09-21 04:22:01,">>142331361 i actually read this >>142330825 and i am right, it is to make a better people, but the way it does it to endlessly struggle against the age, and it is totalitarian, deciding what its people want and get, and it is structured around a strong leader",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505967721 142293725,142332480,2017-09-21 04:22:36,">>142332222 ill check that",,Anonymous,1505089412597.jpg,9r5KJdtQle1RVPdKC9x0SQ==,,,1505967756 142293725,142332546,2017-09-21 04:24:11,">>142332432 Plz gib website and books. Teach me a true fascist perspective senpai.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505967851 142293725,142332565,2017-09-21 04:24:40,">>142332222 another example The top is a town that evolved steadily and gradually over a thousand years. Unique architecture style, rooted in history and tradition. The buildings are constructed this way because these were the materials they found to build houses out of in that local area. The town is walled because of historical threats from pirate attacks. The local folk have a unique ethnic heritage. The shops sell local products, and all have their own special character The bottom is a suburb, paving over the natural environment with concrete. Houses constructed out of cheap particle board, serviced by a massive megamall a few miles away distributing mass produced products from all over the world. The same suburb could be located in Texas, Washington, Colorado, Virginia.....etc. Not rooted to history, tradition, or to a people. Instead, you are manhandling the environment to provide a commodity for all people, regardless of who they are or where they're from.",,Anonymous,living vs dead.jpg,eEOmoOn9h5F+SK5wuh6oMw==,US,,1505967880 142293725,142332613,2017-09-21 04:25:22,">>142332446 You will not understand Fascism by reading a snippet of shitformation. Educate yourself for more then 10 minutes. Garbage in garbage out and the fact you are an ancap proves it",,Anonymous,,,,,1505967922 142293725,142332640,2017-09-21 04:25:46,">>142332432 the jews are an ancient group though, especially since you can track the movements of the pharacies to the lands of the khazars, russians, and spain the easiest and see how those places faired",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505967946 142293725,142332678,2017-09-21 04:26:21,">>142332565 Truly soul crushing. The left hates life and they humans, they want drones.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505967981 142293725,142332833,2017-09-21 04:29:11,">>142332613 ok thanks, have fun being a perpetual soldier that believes that you can actually form a giant state apparatus build around corporations and a leader for the purpose of molding people from one thing to another by taking out any initiative beyond loving the state in a quasi spiritual sense. in the words of a now dead(?) anon What can go wrong?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505968151 142293725,142332958,2017-09-21 04:31:27,">>142332546 > ironmarch.org Read the introductory books slowly and carefully. But do not visit the link unless you are truly committed to fixing this Earth. This site is not for plebs, casual readers or materialistic slaves of the beast system. >>142332640 Yes but how does this information pertain to an ideology and how does it differ from fascism. >>142332678 Leftism is the embodiment of pure weakness. The Right is also the embodiment of weakness for fear of Commitimg violence for what's right. >>142332833 Straw man argument from a child who doesn't understand what Fascism actually means",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505968287 142293725,142333210,2017-09-21 04:36:04,">>142332958 >Right is also the embodiment of weakness for fear of Commitimg violence for what's right. Because for the average man it hurts to dish out violence, even in self defense. A lot of motivation is needed to take the step. Maybe the migrant and rape crisis in Europe will push them over the edge and start defending themselves, but so far it doesn't look like it. A lot more is needed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505968564 142293725,142333216,2017-09-21 04:36:09,">>142332432 Reddit? Ha.............",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505968569 142293725,142333292,2017-09-21 04:37:17,">>142332565 >>142332678 That kind of architecture is hideous, I agree. But it's not a leftist, nor a rightist phenomenon. It's capitalism. People need somewhere to live, and will settle for that. Plus, it's cheaper than towns built to replicate old cities. Nothing can (Rightfully) be done about this, by a government. All you can do is not live there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505968637 142293725,142333655,2017-09-21 04:43:27,"Ahhhh you're all fucking up dude. This society is promoting sex with children at this point. Next is armageddon... fuck. Electing a fucking face will not do shit at this point. It's time to fight back.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505969007 142293725,142334146,2017-09-21 04:51:46,">>142333210 So you are in favour of open borders and other leftist policies to hasten the awakening?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1505969506 142293725,142334192,2017-09-21 04:52:35,">>142332958 How do I access the introductory books?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505969555 142350230,142350230,2017-09-21 09:23:04,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Ps2MwGX RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General -,Anonymous,1505953511979.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1505985784 142350230,142350930,2017-09-21 09:32:48,">>142350230 The Free Market ain't free, the tree of economic liberty must watered with the blood of statists",,Anonymous,Gods of Libertarianism.jpg,T5R0AzKBE7urPQj5ycq+yQ==,,,1505986368 142350230,142351637,2017-09-21 09:41:42,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,fascist_pepe.jpg,mJryaAthakth6JtrfZUlSA==,NL,,1505986902 142350230,142351727,2017-09-21 09:42:59,">>142350930 What do you think is the most viable way to achieve our goals?",,Anonymous,1470709283903.jpg,qicFw4Kng0R9Z7pNFYO4pw==,,,1505986979 142350230,142351742,2017-09-21 09:43:10,"Unions, for or against them?",,Anonymous,IMG_1606.jpg,VMAXikSfT5AHVb3IOun22g==,NZ,,1505986990 142350230,142351845,2017-09-21 09:44:35,">>142351727 Helicopters. Lot of helicopters.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505987075 142350230,142352112,2017-09-21 09:47:52,">>142351742 Against personally, life as a scab has made me realise these people are children.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1505987272 142350230,142352690,2017-09-21 09:55:13,">>142351742 I don't support them, but without the state, they inevitably harm themselves. Look to Revolutionary Catalonia as an example of its failure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505987713 142350230,142355727,2017-09-21 10:33:47,I dont know much about gary johnson but why is he not considered libertarian?,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1505990027 142350230,142356516,2017-09-21 10:44:13,">>142350230 Threadly reminder that Austrian and by extension libertarian economics are a joke.",,Anonymous,AustrianEconomicsMises.png,NFdPxJ9se4bPHFJOEKEVFg==,US,,1505990653 142350230,142356540,2017-09-21 10:44:30,Aynn Rand was a jewish cunt.,,Anonymous,,,,,1505990670 142350230,142356782,2017-09-21 10:47:43,">>142350230 So in the last thread on the discussion ""how can a libertarian society maintain itself?"" we got to the point of megacorporations. So, if the defining characteristic between a state and a megacorporation is that the state is coercive, then what prevents a sufficently large megacorp from turning into a state?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505990863 142350230,142356932,2017-09-21 10:49:39,">>142355727 He fits the definition of Libertarianism as defined by the American Libertarian Party, which is socially liberal, but economically ""conservative"", meaning lower taxes and fewer regulations in the market. But why don't we consider him to be a libertarian? He's a statist. He believes the government should enforce discrimination laws on race and homosexuality, even comparing homosexual discrimination to that of the blacks during the 1960's. He's a fucking joke.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505990979 142350230,142356974,2017-09-21 10:50:13,">>142351727 Voting, elections, cultural and/or political revolution if neccesary",,Anonymous,america.jpg,JAHUUfC7tDdky2zuKKjejA==,,,1505991013 142350230,142357059,2017-09-21 10:51:16,">>142351742 Against, but the govt shouldn't be banning them. They can exist but shouldn't",,Anonymous,half-head-of-god-emp.jpg,naFo1P2Z1XcA6/8uxmkJAQ==,,,1505991076 142350230,142357165,2017-09-21 10:52:34,">>142356516 Thank you for saying that libertarians don't use facts and not providing any facts",,Anonymous,small-card.jpg,81pXPMqQn0FkuqwvXrvULA==,,,1505991154 142350230,142357220,2017-09-21 10:53:16,">>142356540 She was an Objectivist, which helped mold American Libertarianism, but she's generally hated by Right-Libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505991196 142350230,142357261,2017-09-21 10:53:52,This kills the libertarian,,Anonymous,Natural Monopoly.png,Fi2qZUz3lFbxd20uHBHQ3g==,US,,1505991232 142350230,142357741,2017-09-21 11:00:26,">>142355727 Supports carbon tax, believes in unlimited immigration, general faggotry",,Anonymous,tongue-man.png,TEwyP4H2cMW+6vmTQGVqBw==,,,1505991626 142350230,142357842,2017-09-21 11:01:42,">>142357261 >implying that because a monopoly can exist, it always will exist in every industry Okay retard",,Anonymous,,,,,1505991702 142350230,142357924,2017-09-21 11:02:40,">>142357261 So do things like externalities, economic analysis, etc. > Oh look, decentralized free markets work for healthcare > Surely the same exact model applied to literally any other industry, good/service will work in the exact same way, fuck actually analyzing things and realizing there are different factors that make different industries or goods function differently",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505991760 142350230,142357929,2017-09-21 11:02:45,">>142357220 >""hated by Right-Libertarians"" um what",,Anonymous,,,,,1505991765 142350230,142357957,2017-09-21 11:03:13,">>142357842 but if it exists in ANY essential industry then the system is flawed",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1505991793 142350230,142357959,2017-09-21 11:03:14,">>142357924 > Work for healthcare kek, they obviously don't, I meant to say technology/software",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505991794 142350230,142358133,2017-09-21 11:05:41,">>142357957 It can exist, but there is no way to stop it unless you completely eliminate the economy. Monopolies exist, but they also fall naturally. Such is life and it cannot be stopped. Trying to stop corporatism will only create more of it",,Anonymous,,,,,1505991941 142350230,142358308,2017-09-21 11:07:58,">>142357957 Also, what's an ""essential"" industry? Do you mean healthcare? Because that wasn't essential in before the modern age. If it's essential now it must've been essential for all time tl;dr, there are no ""essential"" industries, just ones that you life more, you filthy socialist",,Anonymous,,,,,1505992078 142350230,142358345,2017-09-21 11:08:25,">>142356782 Excellent question. I would say that coercion divides the two. But, we must ask ourselves: do businesses perform coercion currently? By buying out politicians, they indirectly coerce us. But when the government falls, businesses will need to find a way to ensure that people don't steal, or disobey certain rules. So, they'd hire security. It's very likely that it could function like police. If they do anything to us, we kill them for aggression. Simple.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1474732544799.jpg,30T5k+q89MjLc7Rhvg5Q7w==,,,1505992105 142350230,142358347,2017-09-21 11:08:23,">>142357842 Look at the internet. In an environment of virtually 0 startup cost, and very low running cost, you have these massive monopolies everywhere. Google, Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon....etc each completely dominate the market in their respective industry. Not only that, but these massive companies are constantly merging to create even more massive super-corporate entities. They're even starting to branch out into things like movies, product delivery services, even the car industry. This is what Teddy Roosavelt was saying, that the free market has a natural tendency to monopoly. And these companies then use their monopoly status to abuse the consumer. Look at how Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Intel.....etc are mishandling user data, demanding more and more concessions, stepping all over consumer rights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osSMJRyxG0k",,Anonymous,1493603790994.jpg,X+AmcXL69XFhOI50xCSY3g==,US,,1505992103 142350230,142358857,2017-09-21 11:15:26,">>142358345 But clearly a single induvidual will not have the same military capacity that a megacorp has.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505992526 142350230,142358860,2017-09-21 11:15:35,">>142358347 None of what you listed are monopolies, just very big companies. I use DuckDuckGo. If Google was a monopoly, there would literally be no other search engine. If YouTube, no Vimeo, Dailymotion, etc. If Amazon, no other online shopping website. Facebook and Twitter are unique services that have popped up from their own merits and become popular because they provide good serivces. You just don't like that there are big companies. You can very well use a different search engine, video site, online shopping site, etc. You're just too lazy to find it. The fact that 4chan exists disproves your point that Facebook and Twitter are ""monopolies"" Please learn what a monopoly is",,Anonymous,funny-facebook-meem-maan.jpg,YOl+QXYECfdIneRuD+O3yA==,,,1505992535 142350230,142358949,2017-09-21 11:16:51,">>142358857 A megacorp is a group of people. No shit a lot of people are stronger than one. In no environment can one person completely overtake a large group of people alone. The economy is no different",,Anonymous,,,,,1505992611 142350230,142359041,2017-09-21 11:18:20,">>142358860 wow. get out of 5th grade and maybe you will understand what he means.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1505992700 142350230,142359223,2017-09-21 11:20:44,">>142359041 >I'm a senior but alirght Okay then explain it to me",,Anonymous,,,,,1505992844 142350230,142359293,2017-09-21 11:21:37,">>142358949 Then back to the original question, how do you prevent the fomation of a state?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505992897 142350230,142359330,2017-09-21 11:22:08,">>142358860 > What is a monopoly > If Google was a monopoly, there would literally be no other search engine Are you a retard?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505992928 142350230,142359394,2017-09-21 11:23:13,">>142359293 >implying that I'm an-cap I'm a minarchist, so I have no problem with a state. Anarchy is gay",,Anonymous,,,,,1505992993 142350230,142359459,2017-09-21 11:24:08,">>142358347 Ummmm.. You are kinda arguing a libertarian point here.. Intellectual Property is a government protection. So is right of way of communication (telephone poles etc.) The forced monopolies of utilities are enforced by law. In fact, there are many rules that deny the ability of public ownership that are also enforced by law enforced by government. The trick here is the rules. The libertarians know this which is why they changed the constitution in Chile to make sure that even if their guy Pinochet was removed, they could insure Capitalism. Libertarians are stupid, not because of the questions they ask, but of the solution to those questions. There are always going to be rules in any agreement space. The first problem with libertarians is that they believe that Economics is a Physics and not an Agreement: that their capitalism just works. The second problem with Libertarians is that their economic model just simply does not do what they predict, and instead of seeing the inherent problem, they blame it on extenuating factors such as Government intervention.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505993048 142350230,142359512,2017-09-21 11:24:56,">>142359330 Nope",,Anonymous,Screenshot 2017-09-21 at 9.24.10 AM.png,Smtda9SAXOoknAmS5BrRvQ==,,,1505993096 142350230,142359515,2017-09-21 11:24:58,">>142359394 Well then the point isn't adressed at you is it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993098 142350230,142359574,2017-09-21 11:25:56,">>142359041 If what he means is that companies dominate majority or plurality market share as a 'monopoly' then he's a moron. Google is the closest to cornering a search monopoly, but they're a staggering 33% of the market left without google as their primary search engine. Thats a long way to go, considering that they probably haven't grown that marketshare much since they began. Youtube does dominate the amateur video market, but there are plenty of video content providers. Netflix is probably their most dominant one, but there are plenty of others. More importantly Youtube is popular because of its content creators, not 'youtube' and if youtube keeps doing what they're doing they'll run out of content pretty fast here. Facebook may have a 'user share' majority but how engaged are people on facebook? I have an account but I haven't been on facebook in two or three years. 'social networks' don't gain their value by how many people are on them, they gain their value by how engaged their users are. Amazon is big, but you know what's bigger? Alibaba. You don't hear outrage about that because there's no American tax dollars at stake, and they don't do 'cool' stuff like drone delivery.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993156 142350230,142359577,2017-09-21 11:25:58,">>142358857 > why buy guns to protect yourselves from the government when the government has tanks Kek. Walmart would need multiple locations to survive. It wouldn't be cost effective to try to control a massive amount of land. So, the business would have its own land. Why would it use tanks? Why would it militarise? What would it gain?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993158 142350230,142359580,2017-09-21 11:26:01,">>142350230 >tfw /pol/ tries to mix a system that advocates for limited government control with a system that advocates for full government control",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505993161 142350230,142359591,2017-09-21 11:26:09,">>142359459 Thank you Except intellectual property doesn't exist",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993169 142350230,142359704,2017-09-21 11:27:40,">>142359574 Thank you",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993260 142350230,142359743,2017-09-21 11:28:11,">>142351727 Far right authoritarianism, then we let the pendulum swing back a bit. Its the only way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993291 142350230,142359771,2017-09-21 11:28:35,">>142359580 a faces doesn't necessarily mean fascism, just order, tradition, etc",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993315 142350230,142359789,2017-09-21 11:28:48,">>142350230 Lolbertarians are so annoying. I have friends at college and they are absolutely bothering. They shill harder than any other groups. Hell they're even worse than an evangelical preacher",,Anonymous,1503628486641.png,hoXh81xiw+1C2tI2ONMhdA==,UY,,1505993328 142350230,142359937,2017-09-21 11:31:02,">>142359515 You replied to me but okay",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993462 142350230,142359967,2017-09-21 11:31:27,">>142359577 I am sure you must have heard from companies which use slave labor, and also many attempts to create monopoly zones for spesific goods, eg. only allowing certain food manuafacturers to participate in the market.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993487 142350230,142359982,2017-09-21 11:31:37,">>142359771 then why use the symbol for fascism in your flag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505993497 142350230,142359987,2017-09-21 11:31:40,">>142359293 I don't think it can really be prevented. Someone will always have more power and land than others, and will use force to protect it. This is how monarchy began. But, if a state exists, we must do what we can to limit it as much as possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993500 142350230,142360023,2017-09-21 11:32:07,">>142359789 Actual libertarians don't announce themselves as such. Anyone with an ounce of understanding logistics should know that freedom only comes after the correct type of statism, because we have to get rid of the undesirables who will ensure that libertarianism won't function.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993527 142350230,142360158,2017-09-21 11:33:55,">>142359982 >IMPLYING I'M A HOPPEAN AN-CAP >>142359967 the only entity that really has the ability to do that is a government. I agree that slavery should be banned, it's a violation of the NAP. Miss me with that ""uh capitalism has slavery"" shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993635 142350230,142360169,2017-09-21 11:34:04,">>142356516 >a priori knowledge isn't knowledge The absolute State of utilitarians",,Anonymous,Hans-Hoppe-ořez-e1494337275956.png,FIa9cfUc/dY8l5h/jxmw4Q==,,,1505993644 142350230,142360283,2017-09-21 11:35:34,">>142359982 >""Okay, so if it doesn't meant fascism, why do you use the symbol that you just said isn't fascism on your flag?"" Because I'm not a fascist? And it's not my flag?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993734 142350230,142360369,2017-09-21 11:36:31,">>142359743 >Gadsden flag >""lets' use far-right authoritarianism""",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993791 142350230,142360400,2017-09-21 11:36:55,">>142360158 But we have examples of companies emploing slave labor. Use your prefered search engine for ""china slave factory"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993815 142350230,142360491,2017-09-21 11:38:03,">>142359967 It's really unfortunate. But, how do you prevent a state such as North Korea from doing that? While I oppose coercion, I also understand that violence will always be used. The state is the monopoly of force within an area, and it's a very natural monopoly, no doubt.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993883 142350230,142360517,2017-09-21 11:38:17,">>142360400 When did I ever say that slave labor doesn't exist? Of course it does, and I think the government should crack down on it Nice search engine roast tho",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993897 142350230,142360564,2017-09-21 11:38:52,">>142357261 No it doesn't. So long as there are no regulations on the market to prevent competing companies from cropping up, eventually a competitor will rise in order to try and take a share of the market from the monopoly. Also, the larger a singular organization gets, the worse their product becomes and the more expensive their overhead becomes. This is the Iron Law of Oligarchies in action on the marketplace.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993932 142350230,142360641,2017-09-21 11:39:51,">>142360491 That's a good statement, but how does that refute his point on slave labor?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505993991 142350230,142360667,2017-09-21 11:40:06,">>142356516 admitting economics are not falsifiable austrians = honest all other economists = hucksters",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994006 142350230,142360670,2017-09-21 11:40:10,"Anyone remember when David Friedman BTFO ""Libertarian Right"" losers yesterday?",,Anonymous,hoppeans BTFO.png,pu7Qa0h8gg+dWZolyuF4zQ==,US,,1505994010 142350230,142360752,2017-09-21 11:41:17,">>142360670 Is that all you got? Okay",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994077 142350230,142360783,2017-09-21 11:41:45,">>142357924 >>142357959",,Anonymous,How Government Solved_20170622153715.png,cft5IPtoPSOo4Apjzljsdg==,,,1505994105 142350230,142360824,2017-09-21 11:42:16,">>142360369 Read my other post nigger. Prance around all you want about not treading on others, but at the end of the day you won't get shit done because the weak and the indoctrinated still exist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994136 142350230,142360941,2017-09-21 11:43:44,">>142358347 this poster never posted again because they were wrong http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/dow-chemical-bromine-monopoly.asp",,Anonymous,1505075319578.jpg,WtDjb2o0JTbFLhCM9A3sTA==,,,1505994224 142350230,142361011,2017-09-21 11:44:43,">>142360023 There's this retard who fancies being an economist because he read a few books. He and others make me cringe so bad I want to snack them",,Anonymous,,,UY,,1505994283 142350230,142361064,2017-09-21 11:45:23,">>142360783 Like David Friedman, Roderick Long is another open-borders libertarian. I've been noticing that you Hoppeans have been stealing material from people you want to ""physically remove"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505994323 142350230,142361081,2017-09-21 11:45:33,">>142360783 Fantastic treatise and a perfect piece to use to explain how the market has taken care of things now considered to be the responsibility of the State",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994333 142350230,142361137,2017-09-21 11:46:22,">>142360670 >namefags >screencapping namefags is this real life? that chapter assumes a world hthat can discriminate as well",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994382 142350230,142361240,2017-09-21 11:47:41,">eventually a competitor will rise in order to try and take a share of the market from the monopoly Like most towns in the USA, your town draws it's water from a single reservoir up on the mountain. This water is processed through a single purification plant, and then distributed through a network of pipes to every single house in the area. It would not make sense or be efficient to have several networks of pipes going to every single house in the town. You probably couldn't even fit all those pipes under the ground very well, and still have room for your sewer system, electrical system and gas lines. Thus this is what we call a ""natural monopoly"". Another example. Your town, and several towns around you all draw their power from a single coal-fired power station 20 miles away, coming over the mountain on high-tension power lines. This is another natural monopoly, everyone in the town is subject to a single supplier. They all must collectively agree. The sewage system, a similar deal. The garbage pickup service, perhaps there is a bit of room for competition there, but realistically you need to get everyone in the town to coordinate the day that they put garbage out on the street. And it's really only efficient to have one garbage truck rolling through the neighborhood every day. Makes less noise, takes less time, creates less of a hazard. Thus, entire neighborhoods will probably have to agree collectively on a single garbage pick up service. Another natural monopoly. How about roads? There usually is only one road between two towns. It wouldn't even be efficient to have multiple roads going between the same two locations (one is enough). Another natural monopoly. The thing is, if you put a natural monopoly in the hands of a private entity, they get to absolutely gouge the shit out of the consumers, who have no other recourse. If there's one privately owned road going to the next town, you'll have to give an arm and a leg to get through the toll booth",,Anonymous,1493603301033.jpg,xSmoEXs14hhrp0mejqYLFQ==,US,,1505994461 142350230,142361266,2017-09-21 11:47:58,">>142360491 I agree that a state can be dangerious, but that it is an inevitability, because of which i'd rather design it to be as beneficial as possible, rather than wait for a warlord, megacorp or whatever to take it's place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994478 142350230,142361292,2017-09-21 11:48:24,">>142361064 roderick also accepts discrimination guess where hoppe comes in?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994504 142350230,142361369,2017-09-21 11:49:24,">>142360517 You said that the only entity capable of doing it is the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994564 142350230,142361431,2017-09-21 11:50:05,">>142361240 >The thing is, if you put a natural monopoly in the hands of a private entity, they get to absolutely gouge the shit out of the consumers, who have no other recourse. examples? just so you know I am going to come back at you with examples of states doing the same thing but 10x worse because we gave them unlimited money (taxes)",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994605 142350230,142361437,2017-09-21 11:50:10,">>142360641 Violence, slavery, and imprisonment will always exist. Governments and businesses will continue to use these as long as they exist. However, the reason why it continues to exist is because the people lack the capacity to protect themselves against coercion. There are even individuals who have kidnapped women as children to enslave. It will always happen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994610 142350230,142361515,2017-09-21 11:51:10,">>142350230 Libertarians a d conservatives are just more varieties of neoliberal corpratists. Fucking stupid ideological garbage DESU.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994670 142350230,142361741,2017-09-21 11:54:13,">>142361437 PS, sorry but I need to leave now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505994853 142350230,142361744,2017-09-21 11:54:15,"Ludwig von Mises was an ""open borders advocate"". Is it time to boycott Human Action, guys?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505994855 142350230,142361844,2017-09-21 11:55:32,"“Without the reestablishment of freedom of migration throughout the world, there can be no lasting peace.” - Ludwig von Mises",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505994932 142350230,142362032,2017-09-21 11:57:58,What are you going to do with monopoly and international corporations?,,Anonymous,,,UA,,1505995078 142350230,142362044,2017-09-21 11:58:06,">>142361266 How do you go about designing a state?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505995086 142350230,142362091,2017-09-21 11:58:39,">>142361744 >Is it time to boycott Human Action, guys? If Human Action means what I think it means, then yes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505995119 142350230,142362107,2017-09-21 11:58:52,">>142361431 I don't have any specific examples of times in history when private corporations exploited a natural monopoly, because I'm not super well read on the topic. But it's happened. The idea of a ""natural monopoly"" is very well known in economics, it's a concept introduced by John Stewart Mill in the 1800's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_monopoly",,Anonymous,John Stewart Mill.jpg,7yqp848TORdHYYEXCLLCDA==,US,,1505995132 142350230,142362365,2017-09-21 12:01:59,">>142361515 American Libertarians might be. A lot of conservatives oppose neo-liberalism/neo-conservatism. Paleo-conservatism, for example, opposes it. >>142361741 Have a good one, mate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505995319 142350230,142363032,2017-09-21 12:10:07,">>142351742 >>142351742 Fuck 'em.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1505995807 142427178,142427178,2017-09-21 23:17:03,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Ps2MwGX RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General -,Anonymous,1505953511979.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1506035823 142427178,142427395,2017-09-21 23:19:34,,,Anonymous,Communist Filth.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1506035974 142427178,142427417,2017-09-21 23:19:52,,,Anonymous,Open Borders.png,vg9kKDFzZtzubZYzrE7MQA==,,,1506035992 142427178,142427583,2017-09-21 23:21:41,Bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1506036101 142427178,142427604,2017-09-21 23:21:53,,,Anonymous,What we really are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1506036113 142427178,142427639,2017-09-21 23:22:19,,,Anonymous,The Communist Threat.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1506036139 142427178,142427686,2017-09-21 23:22:56,,,Anonymous,8 Levels of Control.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1506036176 142427178,142427714,2017-09-21 23:23:21,,,Anonymous,Right Wing Populism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1506036201 142427178,142427973,2017-09-21 23:26:25,I'm a Constitutional Conservative presently. I believe that strict adherence to the Constitution is conducive to liberty. I'd be curious for thoughts on Constitutionalism.,,Anonymous,,,,,1506036385 142427178,142428098,2017-09-21 23:28:01,">>142427973 I also have a question for anyone who's there. I get the concept of a Voluntary society free of the state. My question is, is such a system possible, and could it be sustained without descending into chaos? Also, thoughts regarding the Minarchist belief that the state is inevitable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506036481 142427178,142428202,2017-09-21 23:29:07,Continuing to dump Libertarian stuff.,,Anonymous,nu v tru pol.png,elZ2/QXq1o51Xq0eeB1rAg==,,,1506036547 142427178,142428265,2017-09-21 23:30:00,,,Anonymous,What's your problem.png,jHBTV9Khr6Tkw77yLF+CHw==,,,1506036600 142427178,142428293,2017-09-21 23:30:19,">>142428098 >My question is, is such a system possible, and could it be sustained without descending into chaos? Yes. >thoughts regarding the Minarchist belief that the state is inevitable. You'd have to either have the majority of the population be ancap, which would require us forming our own societies separate from the majority of people, or you'd have to have some way of enforcing anarcho-capitalism with a minority of the population (privatized robotic death squads?)",,Anonymous,,,,,1506036619 142427178,142428521,2017-09-21 23:33:06,">>142427973 no offense but you're just plain cringe. you're one of those blue collar retards that has a cheap chinese snake flag on their wall with fold marks in it why do you propose any of these questions or support the images you're posting under the gadsden? you have no idea what your beliefs are because they were built by one general on 4chan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506036786 142427178,142428943,2017-09-21 23:38:01,">>142428098 In the last thread, an anon and I discussed the difference between a mega-corporation and a state, and we divided it at coercion. Violence is inevitable, and powerful people will attain more property and control more people than others. Therefore, violence is necessary to protect yourself from violence. At a small scale, yes, a voluntary free society could work, but it's not likely that it will end up that way.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1474732544799.jpg,30T5k+q89MjLc7Rhvg5Q7w==,,,1506037081 142427178,142428951,2017-09-21 23:38:06,Is this the thread where neckbeards choose political personalities because they dont have their own personality?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506037086 142427178,142429546,2017-09-21 23:45:46,">>142427178 >Anarcho-capitalism included, yet open-border advocates need not apply and 'live and let live faggotry discouraged' >unironically Don't Tread on Me and my fascist ancap flag Fuck /pol/, I keep seeing shit like this. Almost as retarded as anrchomonarchism. Fascism literally rests upon the primacy of the state. Ancap/libertarianism/minarchy all sit on the spectrum of No State to OK Mr. Policeman and Deed to a House-land. They are polar opposites. If you want to talk about the naturally order, stop spooking yourself with all this BS.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506037546 142522876,142522876,2017-09-22 19:11:30,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Ps2MwGX RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg",Libertarian Right General /lrg/ No Positive Rights Edition,AncapAnon101,1505674666173.jpg,E/NJP+utAVenRcD/jpLhPw==,,,1506107490 142522876,142523812,2017-09-22 19:21:00,"bump hail freedom",,Anonymous,1502757982792.jpg,3nOpTejOmkTeSSTJMAUeJA==,,,1506108060 142522876,142524709,2017-09-22 19:28:25,How do I come out to my Hillary-heavy mother as an extreme libertarian?,,Anonymous,,,,,1506108505 142522876,142524913,2017-09-22 19:30:30,">>142524709 Well you have all the statistics on your side, so be sure to stock up on those before coming out.",,Anonymous,dutchko.jpg,KPBF3YGnKlnO3wV9HCohNg==,,,1506108630 142522876,142525110,2017-09-22 19:32:44,">>142522876 >natural order One would guess that biologists, geneticists, anthropologists or even sociologists could make claims based on muh human nature, yet it is always edgy economically iliterate ancaps the ones that insist on it? >Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. So liberty does end where your feelings begin? Yeah, doesn't sound that rational for an (((objectivist)))",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1506108764 142522876,142525131,2017-09-22 19:32:58,"Hey guize Im going on a podcast soon to argue that an ancap society could actually co-exist with strong nationalism. DAOs and automated contracts could provide services like police, etc. So we would see the dissolution of the (((STATE))) and the rise of a nation. The nation would still be a tribal and cultural thing to defend and be proud of. What do you shitlords think?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506108778 142522876,142525341,2017-09-22 19:35:10,">>142525131 I like it",,Anonymous,,,,,1506108910 142522876,142525517,2017-09-22 19:36:50,">>142525131 I like it",,Anonymous,,,,,1506109010 142522876,142526656,2017-09-22 19:48:18,">>142525131 Read about Liechtenstein. Abolition of state doesn't mean abolition of government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506109698 142522876,142527371,2017-09-22 19:56:35,">>142525110 A people have the right to decide who moves to their lands. Which means that conservative people won't let in undesirable people, while neoliberal socialists in California are welcome to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506110195 142522876,142528354,2017-09-22 20:06:48,">>142525131 >>142526307 check us out my man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506110808 142522876,142529848,2017-09-22 20:22:03,">>142524709 Trying to explain to someone who's so indoctrinated by statism that she supports the embodiment of the political establishment is a futile effort. Let her live in her own little world where right-wingers are dumb bible-thumpers and left-wingers are heroes of social justice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506111723 142522876,142530139,2017-09-22 20:24:41,">>142525110 Traditional, conservative lifestyles are traditional because they are profitable. If they weren't, we wouldn't keep them as traditions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506111881 142522876,142530355,2017-09-22 20:26:59,>>142522876,,Anonymous,1504921712903.jpg,oTV6WCsMfFfasmH/CY/fvQ==,,,1506112019 142522876,142532801,2017-09-22 20:51:23,">page 9 I guess /pol/ is socialist now",,Anonymous,1506120946339.png,OcrUuGLfktbbMpxqsoVyig==,US,,1506113483 142522876,142533162,2017-09-22 20:54:41,"Catholic Constitutional Conservative Tea Party",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506113681 142522876,142533198,2017-09-22 20:55:00,">>142532801 Libertarians call literally everything slightly left of ancap socialism. It's a meaningless buzzword when used by them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506113700 142522876,142533533,2017-09-22 20:58:35,,,Anonymous,1504866040341.jpg,k6u6LiILMbuqUlr0KU/X8w==,,,1506113915 142522876,142533580,2017-09-22 20:59:02,,,Anonymous,1506049445251.png,bV1TQSdmrfH1U6B5l5G2pQ==,,,1506113942 142522876,142533624,2017-09-22 20:59:35,,,Anonymous,1482562189413.jpg,+lxcwyj9LwIzKJA/azYm+Q==,,,1506113975 142522876,142533674,2017-09-22 20:59:58,,,Anonymous,1490076824734.jpg,jpUFCJ2OCyQdAha0EB0XVw==,,,1506113998 142522876,142533900,2017-09-22 21:01:48,"God-given (not government-granted) Rights Christian Virtuous People Self-Governance",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506114108 142522876,142534204,2017-09-22 21:04:35,"Reminder: Between 1861-1862, New Orleans was the closes thing to a free market minarchist state with majority traditional Catholics and as a bonus it was the cultural hub of the Old South. Why did they hate us bros? It was damn near perfect. Blessed Pope Pius IX, the only Prince of Europe to officially recognize the indepent South, must have weeped openly when heard about the fall.",,Anonymous,800px-Louisiana_Feb_11_1861.svg.png,CLEnNAZtG0Jl/OPpIDz0WA==,US,,1506114275 142586649,142586649,2017-09-23 08:09:02,"This here's a new OP posting; Nomad Scavenger. This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Ps2MwGX RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - New OP Edition,Anonymous,lrg badge personal 2.png,GSIQ17+icpCrYk0PWJ5WeA==,,,1506154142 142586649,142587047,2017-09-23 08:15:10,Zoroastra bless /lrg/,,Anonymous,hoppe_0.jpg,l066R7o6T2FK7CQYbNDbVQ==,US,,1506154510 142586649,142587127,2017-09-23 08:16:27,">>142587047 Zarathustra bless you, Anon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506154587 142586649,142587405,2017-09-23 08:20:52,Daily reminder that the Libertarian party is communist.,,Anonymous,DIMxxcIXUAII34P.jpg,e/ltPFfZbqYkMJAnu+UczA==,US,,1506154852 142586649,142587418,2017-09-23 08:21:05,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1506154865 142586649,142587507,2017-09-23 08:22:23,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506154943 142586649,142587578,2017-09-23 08:23:29,">>142587405 wat explain",,Anonymous,,,,,1506155009 142586649,142587584,2017-09-23 08:23:31,">>142587405 Reminder taken to heart. No commies will get by us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506155011 142586649,142587710,2017-09-23 08:25:18,">>142587507 Please explain why you think libertarians cannot be on the economical right, Dutchbro.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506155118 142586649,142587879,2017-09-23 08:27:27,">>142587578 The Libertarian party cares more about socially leftist egalitarianism and weed than actual Libertarian philosophy. They are basically the cultural Marxists party at this point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506155247 142586649,142588047,2017-09-23 08:30:00,">>142587879 Oh, right, the party. Everything I've seen of them is total shit, so I agree.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506155400 142586649,142588142,2017-09-23 08:31:28,">>142587710 >economical right liberal economics are not right wing, clearly left wing. Both communistm and libertatianism are purely materialistic ideologies that rely on destruction of certain values such as heroism, national unity and patriotism",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506155488 142586649,142588293,2017-09-23 08:33:33,">>142588142 Your parents must be related. The classical liberals like Jefferson were heroistic revolutionary white nationalists. Actually read the things The founding fathers said. They were all about National unity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506155613 142586649,142588394,2017-09-23 08:34:59,">>142588142 This statement is completely retarded. Are you sure you aren't one of those Nazi idiots? This sounds like something they would say unironically.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506155699 142586649,142588570,2017-09-23 08:37:39,so are you guys more destinationists or directionalists in regards to individual liberty ?,,Anonymous,a8b9e9ea2ec77e00b366ed8883479682--ayn-rand-quotes-atlas-shrugged.jpg,8uJ61EBsvkYcyTmsm58wGA==,,,1506155859 142586649,142588740,2017-09-23 08:40:12,">>142588142 Liberals and libertarians are not the same. In principle we believe that nothing should be regulated and that people are free to do what they wish without government intervention. This does not mean that one can be as obnoxious and degenerate as they wish to be in public, for society around them will have their own social codes and ethics that need not be enforced by a state. Furthermore, communism is an ideology that thrives on appropriating property from individuals through the means of theft. Right-wing economics on the other hand thrives on a free and open market, in which the individual decides what to buy, sell or donate through personal choice (aka: voluntary action). To equate capitalism with communism is an oxymoron.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506156012 142586649,142588839,2017-09-23 08:41:40,">>142588740 OP here btw. Phoneposting is clunky as shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506156100 142586649,142588884,2017-09-23 08:42:27,">>142588570 Destination. If we promote a 10% cut on income tax instead of ideal abolition who will promote Libertarianism? As Rothbard said, we can surely show support for incrementalism, but we must be uncompromising radicals in our ideals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506156147 142586649,142588889,2017-09-23 08:42:30,">>142588293 actions>words >>142588394 im not being ironic >>142588570 >tfw you will never line ms. Rosenbaum against a wall and make a swiss cheese out of her",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506156150 142586649,142588960,2017-09-23 08:43:28,">>142588839 Tell me about it. Dumping images is a nightmare because captcha glitches out my phone's browser and makes it do weird shit like force the entire webpage downwards.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506156208 142586649,142588967,2017-09-23 08:43:41,">>142588889 They took actions faggot. Where's your revolution?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506156221 142586649,142589007,2017-09-23 08:44:26,">>142588960 >Not 4passing for phone posting. Stop being poor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506156266 142586649,142589096,2017-09-23 08:45:57,">>142588884 >we can surely show support for incrementalism so that does mean we are happy with trump cause he wants to cut taxes ? What about health-care? Rand is against the new bill but it is miles better than obongacare right ? >>142588889 >line ms. Rosenbaum against a wall and make a swiss cheese out of her thats a strange way to say you want to fuck her.",,Anonymous,atlas-shrugged-3.jpg,mfNeQbb6Rc4Tr8/SFQyZOA==,,,1506156357 142586649,142589255,2017-09-23 08:48:23,">>142588142 >libertarianism is materialistic >completely ignores NAP, principles of freedom, lack of Civil Rights Act, physical removal, freedom given to people via markets, prosperity created by markets, etc Did your holobox tell you that there weren't enough regulations to fight the evil businesses?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506156503 142586649,142589326,2017-09-23 08:49:18,">>142589096 Don't be happy until the state is dead, but don't go out of your way to virtue signal against those who are doing somewhat better by us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506156558 142586649,142589417,2017-09-23 08:50:27,">>142589326 >but don't go out of your way to virtue signal against those who are doing somewhat better by us this, so is Rand virtue signaling ? I mean he's right but he is not helping.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506156627 142586649,142589675,2017-09-23 08:54:06,">>142588960 Glad I ain't the only one",,Anonymous,,,,,1506156846 142586649,142589716,2017-09-23 08:54:44,"Hi guys, I own http://www.libertarianright.org/, set it up when these threads were first going on. I don't really have the time to lurk here much anymore, too busy irl. Anyone want to take it over or something? Had an offer or two a few months back. On another note its fantastic to see the threads are still going strong! <3",,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,GB,,1506156884 142586649,142589731,2017-09-23 08:54:55,">>142586649 bump",,Anonymous,C9oeX89XUAEWd4N[1].jpg,0Gc+LMCs0T5Z+lSAzf/vvg==,,,1506156895 142586649,142589805,2017-09-23 08:56:02,">>142589417 In my opinion, Trump while certainly not a Libertarian, is one of the better options we have. I would not oppose him unless he really fucks up. As far as Rand goes I don't know, I'm not too fond or familiar of her.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506156962 142586649,142589816,2017-09-23 08:56:13,">>142588839 very true >>142588740 >for society around them will have their own social codes and ethics which will be defined by the culture. libertarianism promotes an individualistic culture. hence it would be strange for an individualist to feel any responsibility to those who have done nothing in return for such a favour. it would require selflessness. I remember watching a friedman interview where he is asked what he thinks about leaving a better environment to his grandchildren, to which he responded that his grandchildren have not done anything for him so why would he go out of his way. The individual is shaped by the environment (culture, religion etc.) these oftentimes do not bring any short term material gains, and the ethics of a civilization will reflect that. >Right-wing economics this is fukcing retarded. why would you call it right wing, when it represents no reactionary values. they are liberal/laissez faire however you want to call it. there is nothing right-wing about it >To equate capitalism with communism is an oxymoron im equating their effects on society. >>142589096 >fuck her you could call it that I geuss.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506156973 142586649,142589856,2017-09-23 08:56:44,">>142589716 Yes! I'm /lrg/ thread founder! Glad to finally see you again!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506157004 142586649,142589888,2017-09-23 08:57:05,">>142589816 didnt mean to change flag",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506157025 142586649,142589916,2017-09-23 08:57:27,">>142589805 no im talking about this guy",,Anonymous,"220px-Rand_Paul,_official_portrait,_112th_Congress_alternate[1].jpg",Va1NNIemx5DmvbBoU5PT8Q==,,,1506157047 142586649,142590031,2017-09-23 08:59:03,">>142589716 On second thoughts I might try to learn and update the site. I'm not great technically though, I have no experience. Not decided yet. >>142589856 Good to see you man.",,Anonymous,lrg on supposed vigilantism.png,NDSEEYHCQThv96SOstVTew==,GB,,1506157143 142586649,142590157,2017-09-23 09:00:44,">>142590031 Pls do, join our discord. We can talk with the crew, some of them are more tech savvy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506157244 142586649,142590248,2017-09-23 09:01:58,">>142589916 Oh, lol. I don't pay him much attention, does he have a hate boner for Trump or",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506157318 142586649,142590249,2017-09-23 09:01:57,What is /lrg/'s opinion on paleo-conservatives? Are they /ourguys/ or are they discount fascists?,,Anonymous,paleoconservative[1].jpg,Fc/ABnPbAILYssYLxpmcmg==,GB,,1506157317 142586649,142590268,2017-09-23 09:02:09,">>142590248 *Something?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506157329 142586649,142590291,2017-09-23 09:02:24,"Minecraft steve Take me by the block, lead me to the biome That you understand. Minecraft steve The adventure to the mineshaft with the diamonds is really cool. Minecraft steve The mine filled with diamonds is super good And I wish to come back Minecraft steve Minecraft steve Take me by the block, lead me to the biome That you understand Minecraft steve The adventure to the mineshaft with the diamonds is really cool. Minecraft steve The mine filled with diamonds is super good And I wish to come back Minecraft steve Minecraft steve Minecraft steve Oh minecraft steve Take me by the block, lead me to the biome That you understand Minecraft steve The adventure to the mineshaft with the diamonds is really cool Minecraft steve The mine filled with diamonds is super good And I wish to come back Minecraft steve Take me by the block, lead me to the biome That you understand Minecraft steve The adventure to the mineshaft with the diamonds is really cool Minecraft steve The advent-m mine filled with diamonds is supergood And I wish to come back Minecraft steve",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1506157344 142586649,142590316,2017-09-23 09:02:41,">>142590249 A real conservative would be a Libertarian. But they ain't bad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506157361 142586649,142590442,2017-09-23 09:04:29,">>142590291 Are you on the right board?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506157469 142586649,142590448,2017-09-23 09:04:34,">>142590248 atm he's going to vote no on repealing and replacing obama care. He's is right in his positions but what you guys have now is worse. He is not helping.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506157474 142586649,142590483,2017-09-23 09:05:01,Let's go goys. Space is begging to be conquered.,,Anonymous,wGuilliman_Saviour14.jpg,mzdlVvyMUq0tsmpfj4YiPg==,,,1506157501 142586649,142590505,2017-09-23 09:05:29,">>142590291 Remove Autism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506157529 142586649,142590611,2017-09-23 09:06:56,">>142590448 Oh yes, sounds like Total bitch move. Yeah, I'd say he's attacking the wrong policy decision.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506157616 142586649,142590629,2017-09-23 09:07:15,">>142590483 I prefer the Cannon fodder guys. Death Korps of Krieg all the way!",,Anonymous,,,,,1506157635 142586649,142590782,2017-09-23 09:09:26,">>142589816 >laissez-faire immediately means something is not right-wing while you would generally be right, you can sustain economic theory while still being considered right-wing. Friedman and Austrian economics dictate divergence from centralized figures and debt, or usury, incurred from government intervention from such centralized figures. Think destabilizing the interest rates thanks to central banks being bailed out by government interest. Think deadweight loss from your local farmer as an incurred negative from government haste to quell union concerns. Since it's so radicalized and the summary perspective would be to equate individualist rampancy with laissez-faire Austrian economics in particular, it would be easier to classify it as an evolution of the market designed for preservation and aversion from government economic intervention, so as to avoid this fallacy that it's left-wing. The left-wing equivalent for competition would obviously be socialist, Marxist, and Keynesian economics. Policies like Propertarianism and Georgism lean a little further left, but that's for the apprehension of excess flush and void from the market, to counteract devaluation of property and people within contractual obligations (Propertarianism) and to sustain equitable payments towards mandatory services with partial land taxation (Georgist). State intervention in Marxism, socialism and Keynesian economics is the defining factor of why Austrian and Friedman economics are considered closer to the conservative side of economics. It's relatively young and tends to trip the ""liberal radar"" but it's, generally, a system to comprehend the power of laissez-faire markets and disciplined, guided (not struck) people in them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506157766 142586649,142591055,2017-09-23 09:13:06,">""The weaker the states exploitative powers the more wealth a capitalist society accumulates"" >""The weaker a state is internally, the further developed capitalism is"" >""A well developed capitalist system to extract from makes the state richer"" >""And the richer state then makes for more and more successful expansionist wars"" >""Thus seemingly paradoxically, the weaker the state acts domestically, the stronger it can act externally"" So that's his plan. To build the ultimate power. The greatest, strongest, most brutal, most aggressive, empire the world has ever seen.",,Anonymous,1442578-1-L.jpg,5oQi5bZpuONvJbpnFMbZVQ==,,,1506157986 142586649,142591869,2017-09-23 09:24:28,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVSnNSCcrT0 Look at this video of Tom Woods and Kinsella discussing Hoppe. As we suspected, Hoppe couldn't care less when his ""critics"" call him a racist or a homophobe. He just laughs in their faces. This man is a treasure.",,Anonymous,tucker carlson.jpg,bH5yN/jtIHeXX3N+x+/OTg==,,,1506158668 142586649,142591955,2017-09-23 09:25:35,">>142591869 That was a great episode, I hear Woods has something special planned for episode 1000",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506158735 142586649,142592150,2017-09-23 09:28:09,">>142591055 Like a velvet glove inside a steel gauntlet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506158889 142586649,142592213,2017-09-23 09:29:11,">>142590031 >>142590157 Seconding this, you can join at Ps2MwGX and you don't even need to make an account, you can use a temporary one.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506158951 142586649,142592318,2017-09-23 09:30:38,">>142591955 Man I'm just waiting for the PFS to upload Hoppe's talk.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506159038 142586649,142592325,2017-09-23 09:30:44,">inb4 urban bois come in here and start talking about how great their state is. Daily reminder: It is easy to hate independence if you never had it.",,/pol/ Is Internet Center of Mental Retardation,,,,,1506159044 142586649,142592506,2017-09-23 09:33:19,">>142587405 This. Libertarians, and advocates for private property rights should avoid the LP like a plague. It has become a front for left-""libertarians"" and egalibertarian garbage.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506159199 142586649,142592527,2017-09-23 09:33:37,">>142592325 Your post is causing me all sorts of confusion, are you in favor of our self determination?",,Anonymous,JPEG_20170812_232131.jpg,exOhaNMkh/YWaZCdy0mxCA==,US,,1506159217 142586649,142592626,2017-09-23 09:34:47,">>142592506 >Egalibertarian Thank you for coining that, that's a perfect word for those faggots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506159287 142586649,142592646,2017-09-23 09:35:04,">>142586649 Why are there so few libertarians in Europe and so many in the USA?",,Anonymous,janusz-korwin-mikke.jpg,sJPoeLKE27IiJyDe7g9bmg==,PL,,1506159304 142586649,142592709,2017-09-23 09:35:51,">>142592646 America was founded on Libertarianism. Real hardcore American conservatism is Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506159351 142586649,142592818,2017-09-23 09:37:12,">>142591869 Nice find. I'm having a listen right now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506159432 142586649,142592876,2017-09-23 09:37:55,">>142592646 Less social cohesion (in the us) for one",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506159475 142586649,142593006,2017-09-23 09:39:24,">>142590249 The only problem I have with paleocons is their opposition to free trade. If not for that, they would basically be libertarians, seeing as they support decentralization (federalism) and limited government (muh Constitution). >>142592626 You're welcome. Spread it. We need more people to reject the LP and find non-statist solutions to the statist problem. >>142592646 The USA has a unique culture based on individualism and limited government that Europe never really had. Europe began the Enlightenment, obviously, but that trend faded in Europe pretty soon, and then Europe sunk right back into despotism and imperialism. On the other hand, the United States as a nation was established on the principles of classical liberalism. We have a short and easy history compared to the clusterfuck of Europe, which is why American identity is so strong and clear to us. We know who we are. Well, most of us, anyway. >>142591869 They say these things, they call you a Nazi, because they want you to be intimidated and fearful. If you don't give them that fear, then you have infinitely more power than them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506159564 142586649,142593129,2017-09-23 09:41:06,">>142593006 >American identity is so strong and clear to us no one really knows even what american identity consists of tbf",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506159666 142586649,142593147,2017-09-23 09:41:27,">>142592876 *State enforced cohesion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506159687 142586649,142593155,2017-09-23 09:41:30,">>142592709 It is my dream to live in deep USA and not having to ask my government if I can build a fucking garage on my own property. But America is becoming more socialist every day from what I hear, unfortunately.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1506159690 142586649,142593210,2017-09-23 09:42:10,">>142593129 Thanks for enlightening me about American identity, Finland.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506159730 142586649,142593316,2017-09-23 09:43:21,">>142593155 That's what I'm doing too. Looks like my dream may come true someday soon. But we do have a communist problem. This much is true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506159801 142586649,142593411,2017-09-23 09:44:21,">>142590483 >b-but m-my state. m-my country >i n-need to save my c-c-country. NATION! Space is so dead and empty! M-much better to take care of our own n-nation. My race, i mean their race needs more gibs! More taxes, ok? >>142592506 This is why you should always judge a person at how high he wishes to impose the taxes. High taxes basically means economic martyrdom for others. Never let homeless freaks and smalltime fish shame you into giving up your home and land to some delusional ideas such as nation and ""race"". These are dumb religions and cults that lead to nothing but sacrifice and zero gains. >>142592709 What america was founded upon is irrelevant. Times are different and the circumstances are different. When america was founded there was land and resources in plenty and for everyone that could work and england was its only enemy. Anyone could afford a hourse, and a family. Today, even if you work, you get impoverished. If you study, you get impoverished, and if you go to war, you still get impoverished. Today america has plenty of enemies. This is why you need to be much smarter and more careful about trusting utopian concepts, such as ism's . They all claim they are the right ones, and believe the right things, just like religions.",,/pol/ Is Internet Center of Mental Retardation,,,,,1506159861 142586649,142593526,2017-09-23 09:45:51,">>142593210 I kek'd. Dutch AnCap here, and I'm aware I have no right to dictate to US citizens what their identity is, not until I myself migrate to the US.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506159951 142586649,142593604,2017-09-23 09:46:42,">>142593147 cohesion nevertheless. it transcends your thatcherite illustration of it >>142593210 am i wrong for saying that there are massively differing conceptions of american identity? the early anglo-saxon civilization you had has surely went through quite a metamorphosis. also. a tad ironic coming from america",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506160002 142586649,142593661,2017-09-23 09:47:24,">>142593411 >nyone could afford a hourse, and a family. Today, even if you work, you get impoverished. If you study, you get impoverished, and if you go to war, you still get impoverished. Today america has plenty of enemies. And you think that it's because of libertarianism?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1506160044 142586649,142593840,2017-09-23 09:49:34,">>142586649 >Nomad >Zoroastrian flag Zoroaster condemned nomadism and farming",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1506160174 142586649,142593847,2017-09-23 09:49:40,">>142593129 I bet you're an expert in the United States and its culture, right, Sven? >>142593411 Anarcho-capitalism isn't utopianism. We make no promises that a pure capitalist, propertarian society will produce absolute abundance and wealth and that we'll cure all disease, eliminate poverty, house and feed everyone, and all that bullshit. We're just saying things would be better than they are now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506160180 142586649,142593885,2017-09-23 09:50:10,">>142593840 and teached farming*",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1506160210 142586649,142593899,2017-09-23 09:50:24,">>142593604 Yeah, it's been transformed by the communists who have rewrote our history, claiming liberals were egalitarian communists like them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506160224 142586649,142594008,2017-09-23 09:52:03,">>142593885 >teached farming Always a pleasure, Pierre. >>142593604 >Yeah, it's been transformed by the communists who have rewrote our history, claiming liberals were egalitarian communists like them. Necessary viewing for literally everyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4",,Anonymous,,,,,1506160323 142586649,142594057,2017-09-23 09:52:40,">>142593899 exactly. that's why i challenged the original assertion of america having a clear identity.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506160360 142586649,142594252,2017-09-23 09:54:55,">>142594008 >Necessary viewing for literally everyone *Yuri Bezmenov video* so even you're agreeing with me that american identity has been rendered oblique and muddled. i don't get why you came after me just a while ago",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506160495 142586649,142594472,2017-09-23 09:57:23,">>142594252 The American right still understands the national identity, even if the left doesn't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506160643 142586649,142594708,2017-09-23 10:00:15,">>142594472 i would challenge you more on that, but the poll they did a while ago about the perceived importance of european ancestry is rather reassuring.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506160815 142586649,142595032,2017-09-23 10:04:13,">>142594708 that is, the people are not completely blinded by neoconservatives and their attempts to force all american conservatism onto a groove desired",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506161053 142586649,142595065,2017-09-23 10:04:34,">>142592318 Kinsella put his own talk on his podcast (from the same event), but I haven't found Hoppe's talk.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506161074 142586649,142595143,2017-09-23 10:05:26,">>142593840 Read the whole flag, frog",,Anonymous,,,,,1506161126 142586649,142595282,2017-09-23 10:06:53,">>142586649 Is there are libertarian element of Zoroastrianism, or do we just really like the aesthetic?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506161213 142586649,142595376,2017-09-23 10:08:00,">>142592325 >socialist flag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506161280 142586649,142596191,2017-09-23 10:18:12,Bump,,Anonymous,1504132663960.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1506161892 142586649,142596330,2017-09-23 10:19:54,">>142593840 Nomad Scavenger comes more from my fantasizing about post-apoc things and doesn't have much of a relation to my religion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506161994 142586649,142596412,2017-09-23 10:20:44,">>142596191 Got any more good wallpapers?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506162044 142586649,142596542,2017-09-23 10:22:19,">>142595282 My religion has no relation to what I believe politically. Rather, this flag is more of a signifier of who I am, rather than a true to form representation of Zoroastrianism + Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506162139 142586649,142596749,2017-09-23 10:24:34,">>142596542 Ah, so it's a way of joining the ranks of Slovakbro and Founding Father, then?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506162274 142586649,142596940,2017-09-23 10:26:59,">>142596749 I have just become a mod on the Discord server, yes, so I thought I'd make an icon for myself to signify that I'm on the mod team.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506162419 142586649,142596961,2017-09-23 10:27:12,">>142596412 I have more of these images I've made, but theres a few good ones to big to upload",,Anonymous,1504132663961.png,T8Fu9b39NuW1a2bnJPzpKw==,US,,1506162432 142586649,142597055,2017-09-23 10:28:17,,,Anonymous,lrgwall2.png,0gOfPrSUl2FLQbWVuCKYWA==,US,,1506162497 142586649,142597100,2017-09-23 10:28:41,,,Anonymous,RR_9.png,dEapXAOEYwVjqEWTW5vyxg==,US,,1506162521 142586649,142597133,2017-09-23 10:28:59,,,Anonymous,RR_1.png,nDQnAEKfvcs23XB8Dk8iOQ==,US,,1506162539 142586649,142597246,2017-09-23 10:30:04,">>142596961 Can you post them on Imgur or PostImage, then? Because these are fucking fantastic, good job",,Anonymous,,,,,1506162604 142586649,142597370,2017-09-23 10:31:25,">>142597246 I can't into those sites from my phone, but if you're in the discord I can post them there",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506162685 142586649,142597571,2017-09-23 10:34:17,">>142597370 The link on the OP to the Discord is dead now, unfortunately. Do you have a new link? I'm just really fucking interested in these wallpapers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506162857 142586649,142597712,2017-09-23 10:36:07,">>142597571 OP Delivers FkUA3Z",,Anonymous,,,,,1506162967 142586649,142597839,2017-09-23 10:37:44,">>142597712 OP wasn't a fag today, thanks",,Anonymous,,,,,1506163064 142586649,142597894,2017-09-23 10:38:16,">>142597839 Faggotry is not allowed on our board of peace.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506163096 142586649,142597940,2017-09-23 10:38:46,">>142593661 >And you think that it's because of libertarianism? No, I am saying that because circumstances are different today than they were when the founding fathers drafted the amendments. If america was to be founded today it would be founded on a minimum amount of land per family and make sure that every person that lives can practice indefinite self-determination no matter social class. This would guarantee their independence from the state and maximize personal freedom. But, of course, due to the weaker elements today depending on society giving them gibs for free, they will never support a reform that requires work for substantial reward. This is why most unemployed people tend to be drawn to ""natsoc"", not because of guaranteed homogeneity, but because of guaranteed gibs. (Don't try to make them admit this, they are hopelessly delusional about their self-worth)",,/pol/ Is Internet Center of Mental Retardation,,,,,1506163126 142586649,142598987,2017-09-23 10:51:30,https://mises.org/blog/mises-and-cosmopolitanism,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506163890 142586649,142598989,2017-09-23 10:51:32,">>142597940 Unemployed people are drawn to the people who offer to give them freebies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506163892 142586649,142599032,2017-09-23 10:51:58,,,Anonymous,unknown-1.png,srEeR8MglT3zWZ5hZ+9vuA==,US,,1506163918 142586649,142599111,2017-09-23 10:52:57,>>142599032,,Anonymous,Laughing.jpg,nFbKeWxp6vGUFjQp3MhjDg==,,,1506163977 142586649,142599343,2017-09-23 10:55:53,"Was he right, bros? ""Without the reestablishment of freedom of migration throughout the world, there can be no lasting peace"" - Ludwig von Mises",,Anonymous,8132083_orig.jpg,CxwcL8lV5nVti8YSVtymsA==,US,,1506164153 142586649,142599845,2017-09-23 11:02:06,">>142598989 >Unemployed people are drawn to the people who offer to give them freebies. If you only knew how reluctant people are to admit this simple statement. Today we live in a time where the simpler the statement is, the fewer people will believe in it. >>142599343 Sounds like. If people aren't forced to take aliens into their home , there won't be any lasting peace.",,/pol/ Is Internet Center of Mental Retardation,,,,,1506164526 142586649,142599954,2017-09-23 11:03:15,">>142599343 In a roundabout way, yes. Freedom of movement is a good, but not in the modern sense which is antithetical to private property.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506164595 142586649,142600206,2017-09-23 11:06:16,"Is the ""Libertarian Right"" really Rothbardian? War and peace is one of the main themes in Rothbard's writing, but I never see libertarians discuss such topics on /pol/. In fact, I've seen so-called libertarians defend acts of mass government violence like the bombing of Hiroshima.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506164776 142586649,142600480,2017-09-23 11:09:39,">>142600206 Well, the ""libertarian right"" isn't a monolith. I personally consider myself heavily Rothbardian, including these views - keep in mind Rothbard hung out with the new left a lot, and just flip flopped a lot in general - others might not, although a lot of our regulars do seem to be anti-war and such. Obviously, mainstream libertarians might not so much, as well as various breeds of minarchists, monarchists and natcaps who hang around here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506164979 142586649,142600721,2017-09-23 11:12:26,">>142600206 I don't think anyone here supports nuclear war.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506165146 142586649,142600763,2017-09-23 11:12:54,"Why aren't there more fans of Mr. Crisis and Leviathan, Robert Higgs, here on /pol/? >If we must choose—and indeed we must—between the world’s most powerful and aggressive state, on the one hand, and a man who wishes to move to Yakima to support his family by picking apples, on the other hand, which side does human decency dictate that we choose? Unfortunately, in this situation, it is all too plain that many Americans are choosing to worship the state and to make a fetish of the borders it has established by patently unjust means. As for this wandering Okie, I’d sooner prostrate myself before a golden calf.",,Anonymous,cop-dr-robert-higgs-there-are-no-good-cops.jpg,QQMQKi/eG+SBK9sSE20VfA==,US,,1506165174 142586649,142600965,2017-09-23 11:15:08,,,Anonymous,argumentum_ad_judaism.jpg,I+K/Cpla5OOLWXqPVJsYNA==,GB,,1506165308 142586649,142601044,2017-09-23 11:16:10,">>142586649 You guys are against monopolies right?",,Anonymous,quote-land-monopoly-is-not-only-monopoly-but-it-is-by-far-the-greatest-of-monopolies-it-is-winston-churchill-81-46-06.jpg,wwbkTREouvRqYPXjbh7POg==,US,,1506165370 142586649,142601442,2017-09-23 11:20:38,">>142586649 > and a return to traditional, conservative values. explain how having a property and human freedoms impies traditional values you can be the queerest of the faggots on your own lawn or perform abortions for a humble price of 50 bucks if you want of course, you can live a conservative life, but the others don't have to",,Anonymous,,,,,1506165638 142586649,142601577,2017-09-23 11:22:16,">>142601442 Why cant the right wing of the LP take property rights to its logical conclusion nothing but a bunch of rentiers with tortured rationalizations on why they get to leech off others",,Anonymous,propertyrights.jpg,oXNFlVZBrR/+LBq7SfWnGw==,US,,1506165736 142586649,142601920,2017-09-23 11:26:10,">>142601442 The implications of abolishing the state means the average Joe will have rely on ingroup preferences for his welfare and social safety net, leading to a more conservative, family oriented society. It wouldn't be impossible to be a degenerate, but it would be less advantageous than it is today with dysgenic state welfare.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506165970 142586649,142602092,2017-09-23 11:27:40,">>142601577 >Tortured rationalizations My geofag friend? How you doing? It's been a while.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506166060 142586649,142602342,2017-09-23 11:30:06,">>142601044 Quoting a mass murderer like Winston Churchill of all people? Are you really libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506166206 142586649,142602371,2017-09-23 11:30:30,">>142601577 i agree with ""Libertarianism starts with self-ownership"". if you can't do something with yourself, your body, this means you don't own yourself, which means you're a slave or (partially) owned by someone else, thus you can't have real freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506166230 142586649,142602554,2017-09-23 11:32:11,"What do you think about what Milton Friendman is saying here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulqBb4JePuQ He's basically saying that capitalism allows Jews to gain money and power and achieve their geopolitical ends",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506166331 142586649,142602680,2017-09-23 11:33:23,Is Britbro still here? Do you have any way we could contact you outside of 4chan?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506166403 142586649,142603116,2017-09-23 11:37:25,">>142602554 Who cares if Jews thrive?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506166645 142586649,142603354,2017-09-23 11:39:45,">>142602092 Im doing well; how is the right wing delusion treating you? >>142602342 I thought you guys were all about helicopter rides; figured Churchill fits right in >>142602371 great so you understand why land should be held in commons",,Anonymous,ig.jpg,TjYTMtpr7FsQA3mf89FnEA==,US,,1506166785 142586649,142603357,2017-09-23 11:39:48,">>142602554 I agree and it also allows any other groups or individuals to do the same. Yes, capitalism allows people to make money and determine their own fate, but Friedman is a yucky minarchist, and not a true capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506166788 142586649,142603558,2017-09-23 11:41:50,">>142603354 Pretty swell, we have an even larger following than before. The zog have been talking down all the edgy royal Libertarian spaces and so we've centralized here. Shits worked out pretty good for me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506166910 142586649,142603690,2017-09-23 11:43:09,">>142603357 He's basically admitting in the video that he supports capitalism because it allows jews to dominate society. That was his whole reason for pushing capitalist ideas He basically admits in the video that jews usually survived throughout history by getting the local monarch or high placed officials in their debt, and using the debt to blackmail them. This used to be called ""usery""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506166989 142586649,142603773,2017-09-23 11:44:01,"While I'm on the zog shutting down Libertarians, reminder to FREE CANTWELL. y'all bitches can listen to radical Agenda live from prison now.",,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,US,,1506167041 142586649,142603810,2017-09-23 11:44:21,">>142591055 Peace through strength. Si vis pacem, para bellum.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506167061 142586649,142603925,2017-09-23 11:45:29,">>142603558 >we have an even larger following than before too bad i've been busy as i could have enlightened your edgelords. Alas off to work again. Be well my misguided friend",,Anonymous,marxandfriedmanonthesamepage.jpg,jQcX/dlW8Ly0ZxJ3JYAGYg==,US,,1506167129 142586649,142603942,2017-09-23 11:45:40,">>142603690 Yes, but now the Jews run the state because they succeeded in their subversion. We should do what the Jews did, and undermine it with capitalism and retake our lands.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506167140 142586649,142604692,2017-09-23 11:53:52,Bump,,Anonymous,absolutely_treaded.png,yp/6grI6jZPtJVzq6PmGlw==,US,,1506167632 142586649,142605631,2017-09-23 12:03:12,">>142593129 Maybe because if you did you would be marching in the streets killing those that rule over you. What you are getting confused about is the controlled media that's exported and is used to brainwash. The push to consume rather then produce anything real. The founding american identity is that of settlers, explorers, builders, but most of all rebels. Governmental tyranny is a well established possibility and as such the government should be actively distrusted, questioned and resisted when it imposes its self outsides of its proper bounds. Now those bounds are up to some debate but when the 2nd says shall not be infringed and if you read the 9th and 10th amendment you start to realize we should not be debating with people that do not respect private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506168192 142605915,142605915,2017-09-23 12:05:57,"...Anonymous (ID: Bm5Y0KOP) AC /lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERA(...) 09/23/17(Sat)08:09:02 No.142586649 Image lrg badge personal 2.png 153 KB PNG This here's a new OP posting; Nomad Scavenger. This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. >Discord: GnjDkn3 RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Open] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA [Open] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Open] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Open] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Open]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,IMG_0823.jpg,WLhVyVWJfgi2ZpVbTi1nCQ==,US,,1506168357 142636418,142636418,2017-09-23 16:48:22,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_idealism.png,iZMY4Z5rx1AUn8xry8dB6A==,GB,,1506185302 142636418,142636488,2017-09-23 16:49:09,first,,TqZVNSB,a0af5f026ae2641a49365dfabda940dad429c4da84e2fee4c915685a9a6aa33f.png,dCNDxC++SRC+iVGkMOV9Lg==,,,1506185349 142636418,142636753,2017-09-23 16:51:30,Paleo-Crew > NazBol homosexuals,,Anonymous,PaleoCrew.png,2mYdXJkr73SuUf7IFVNAYw==,,,1506185490 142636418,142637019,2017-09-23 16:53:42,">>142636753 >Rothbard being that tall kek'd",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506185622 142636418,142637365,2017-09-23 16:56:45,>economics jokes general,,Anonymous,Socialism3.png,Cysxd6wS8PJ2cCc5ZGIeIA==,,,1506185805 142636418,142637491,2017-09-23 16:57:59,,,Crim,1505963183473m.jpg,7AxKvW1wBlPF1oUxx32cJw==,US,,1506185879 142636418,142637606,2017-09-23 16:59:05,Monarcho-Capitalist flag when?,,Anonymous,Libertarian Right.png,goepP1kppUhqzEh5CMj4Dw==,,,1506185945 142636418,142637674,2017-09-23 16:59:37,">>142636418 How does a libertarian society deal with multi-culturalism? How does a libertarian society function with a population of majority low-IQ retards?",,Anonymous,30682348343.jpg,eQVMoapvY//+QZpLjnM4VQ==,,,1506185977 142636418,142637862,2017-09-23 17:01:05,"in a perfect AnCap utopia, if somebody wants to build a road that intersects with your road, and you don't want their road to intersect with your road, how would the issue be resolved?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506186065 142636418,142637926,2017-09-23 17:01:35,">>142637674 >Libertarianism = Democracy dude just kick all the niggers out of the country lol",,Anonymous,Miia implying.png,KmWTCSn0ISB4sag8Hdf6xw==,,,1506186095 142636418,142638129,2017-09-23 17:03:39,,,Anonymous,ancap anime girl.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1506186219 142636418,142638192,2017-09-23 17:04:01,">>142637606 exellent image, I was gonna make somthing like this but you did it for me. +points for /lrg/ references",,Anonymous,,,,,1506186241 142636418,142638658,2017-09-23 17:07:54,,,Anonymous,Govt=Dindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,,,1506186474 142636418,142638772,2017-09-23 17:08:57,">>142637862 I personally would take the merger deal because it would make more traffic and toll bux for me. If you didn't want that you could fuck off i guess. he doesn't hae a right to build his road on yours.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506186537 142636418,142640059,2017-09-23 17:20:09,bump,,Anonymous,Virgil.png,wDUxtXohu0wCsohSEEb92w==,,,1506187209 142636418,142640210,2017-09-23 17:21:25,">>142636418 Crystallized Kant is a centrist, not a libertarian",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506187285 142636418,142640833,2017-09-23 17:27:19,"I'm moving to Mexico as soon as I have enough savings for a retirement. America is shit. Americans are boot-licking sheep. The government sticks its nose into your affairs and bullies you in too many ways to count. Thug police officers are everywhere you go. I think more libertarians should follow Robert Higgs' example. https://youtu.be/_9tysXTAz0g?t=1h1m23s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506187639 142636418,142641504,2017-09-23 17:33:15,">>142637606 There's libertarian monarchism, if that counts. I've only seen this flag once in a while, though.",,Anonymous,Libertarian_Monarchism_Tread_2.png,gphNyPVGRaNtut2+/lmR5w==,,,1506187995 142636418,142644735,2017-09-23 18:02:57,">>142640833 I hope you're being ironic. The drug cartels are the mexican government and they are guilty of all pf that and much more. Mexico isnt even ranked as the most free country either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506189777 142636418,142645089,2017-09-23 18:06:08,"Bump und Boden. Post your squad here.",,Anonymous,1505936847388.jpg,T5R0AzKBE7urPQj5ycq+yQ==,SK,,1506189968 142636418,142645233,2017-09-23 18:07:30,">>142637862 Consider the following:",,Anonymous,Looking_east_at_the_railway_bridge_over_Rugby_Road_-_Geograph_-_1669990.jpg,BCHUt/fKRZlZyoE08pTg2Q==,SK,,1506190050 142636418,142645424,2017-09-23 18:09:12,">>142644735 Higgs lives in Mexico. He travels coast to coast and people treat him like a human being. People in America are deprived of their rights and treated like shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506190152 142636418,142645598,2017-09-23 18:10:58,">>142643878 >>142643878 >>142643878 Pittsburgh posting, we need more white capitalists to join the ranks of white capitalists >come home white man >come home to Pittsburgh",,Anonymous,923FDBC5-CFB9-45E1-891E-542875F6152B.jpg,GcQGBr4K4WrK80wdPU3Wwg==,US,,1506190258 142636418,142646021,2017-09-23 18:14:53,">>142637674 >How does a libertarian society deal with multi-culturalism? Simple. All the people who don't want it live in a community with strict rules, all those who don't mind live in multi-cultural societies. And, because multi-culturalism doesn't fucking work, they all suffer the consequences while the closed community patrols its borders with helicopters and private death squads. >How does a libertarian society function with a population of majority low-IQ retards? Simple. Low-IQ retards either work hard or die, since they're too retarded to survive if not supported shit like welfare.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506190493 142636418,142646060,2017-09-23 18:15:11,The libertarian party is dead and potheads/Johnson killed it. Fuck off and die.,,Anonymous,fighting trump.jpg,GF/YFnLMcBnc2sCmPsWHWQ==,US,,1506190511 142636418,142646413,2017-09-23 18:18:49,">>142646060 Who are you talking to? None of the LP's members come on this site, let alone associate with right-wing libertarians like us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506190729 142636418,142646546,2017-09-23 18:19:54,">>142645424 He must travel through the less dangerous areas then because an expat like him is prime meat for the cartels to abduct as ransom. I'd rather stay in a different Latin american american country.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506190794 142636418,142646864,2017-09-23 18:22:58,">>142646546 Have you traveled Mexico? Why do you dismiss an expat's personal experiences living in Mexico for several years?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506190978 142636418,142647052,2017-09-23 18:24:45,">>142646546 The cartel is less dangerous than the black-uniformed thugs who call themselves police in America.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506191085 142636418,142647605,2017-09-23 18:29:49,">>142646864 No I have not travelled to mexico, but even if I did it wouldn't matter because anecdotes dont carry that much weight. I have visited other Latin american countries though like Nicaragua where drug cartels and cholo street gangs have failed to establish themselves. Seems more appealing to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506191389 142636418,142647726,2017-09-23 18:30:54,">>142636418 are you guys ancaps or libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506191454 142636418,142647754,2017-09-23 18:31:08,">>142647052 >being this delusional",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506191468 142636418,142647925,2017-09-23 18:33:01,">>142647605 You think Mexico is dangerous because of anecdotes. You just dismiss Robert Higg's experience for whatever reason. Probably because you want to believe the worst about Mexico. You don't want to accept that you're living in one of the least free, more dangerous places to live.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506191581 142636418,142647949,2017-09-23 18:33:18,">>142640210 He's a faggot, not a centrist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506191598 142636418,142648017,2017-09-23 18:34:00,">>142647754 Boot licking American detected.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506191640 142636418,142648958,2017-09-23 18:43:17,">>142647925 Narcos corrupting mexico is a fact not an anecdote. Another fact is that mexico isn't even ranked as a top free country. And I know america is not as free as it claims to be. I'd rather live in a different country if not my fantasy of living on a seastead. Mexico certainly wouldn't be among my pick of countries though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506192197 142636418,142649229,2017-09-23 18:45:40,"Why isn't Robert Higgs more respected as a libertarian economist and historian? He's the greatest living libertarian alive in my opinion. This 3 hour interview on Cspan provides an overview of his work. https://youtu.be/QzbEkXGd7Ms",,Anonymous,cop-dr-robert-higgs-there-are-no-good-cops.jpg,QQMQKi/eG+SBK9sSE20VfA==,US,,1506192340 142636418,142649530,2017-09-23 18:48:35,">>142648958 Those measures of freedom are bullshit. America deserves to rank in the bottom half, if not the bottom quartile or bottom 10%. Narco's probably don't impact the average Mexican's life as much as you think. Robert Higgs is an astute, clear-thinking economist and historian, as evident in his decades worth of work. I'd trust his observations over any other second hand accounts of Mexico's situation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506192515 142636418,142650643,2017-09-23 18:59:18,">>142649530 Same anon as before just my IP changed since my IP died. Ok, supposing all that is true mexico still isn't an ideal country to move to unless you're a shill for mexico. And regardless of how free any current country is for that matter, they would still be less free than the ultimate goal of a libertarian micronation seastead. I'm more inclined to move to the seastead that's been approved in French Polynesia.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506193158 142636418,142650713,2017-09-23 19:00:01,">>142650643 Meant ID changed since my IP died.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506193201 142636418,142651107,2017-09-23 19:04:05,,,Anonymous,LIVE_REE_OR_DIE.png,OWjYVSk4MpCrSo8lpRlBBA==,,,1506193445 142636418,142651148,2017-09-23 19:04:32,">>142647726 Both, mostly PaleoLibertarians of an AnCap sort.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506193472 142636418,142652824,2017-09-23 19:21:09,">>142637606 Minarchist flag when?",,Anonymous,,,LU,,1506194469 142636418,142652950,2017-09-23 19:22:23,">>142652824 I don't know what it's based off of, but this the one I've seen around.",,Anonymous,Minarchist flag.png,BVgPKC4F2PT3w3hzq4OdmQ==,,,1506194543 142636418,142653077,2017-09-23 19:23:57,">>142645233 What about air rights ?",,Anonymous,,,LU,,1506194637 142636418,142653473,2017-09-23 19:28:23,">>142653077 Do you think property borders extend down to the Earth's core and infinitely into the sky?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506194903 142636418,142653490,2017-09-23 19:28:32,">>142637606 Is there a higher res version of this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506194912 142636418,142654222,2017-09-23 19:35:41,">>142653473 I didnt say that but since i own road i can do what ever i want with it right? Suppose i dont want my road anymore am i not allowed to build a skyscrapper on it ?",,Anonymous,,,LU,,1506195341 142636418,142654302,2017-09-23 19:36:22,,,Anonymous,higgs.jpg,jurnZpnRfBDfwzyJKxozIA==,US,,1506195382 142636418,142654599,2017-09-23 19:39:12,,,Anonymous,higgs2.jpg,mjJAteb0h/ZokZqTJU/2oA==,US,,1506195552 142636418,142654723,2017-09-23 19:40:35,"ITT retards and hypocrites crying about freedom when they don't support it anyway. ""Covenants""? ""NAP""? Don't make me laugh. Your society based on ""consent"" won't last a generation. Tyranny by the mob.",,Anonymous,Libertarian Problems.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,,,1506195635 142636418,142654839,2017-09-23 19:41:38,,,Anonymous,higgs3.png,EoXrKTv0AvqwVtIkv1gVDA==,US,,1506195698 142636418,142655016,2017-09-23 19:43:20,,,Anonymous,higgs4.jpg,tXBlNjKo9qQa3Hzd7sq9MQ==,US,,1506195800 142636418,142655168,2017-09-23 19:44:51,This kills the commie,,Anonymous,d86eDzJ.png,oRSMnzqD9IMC8ppHava5jw==,US,,1506195891 142636418,142655762,2017-09-23 19:50:16,">>142654723 Oh boy, here come my favorite copypastas!",,Anonymous,being an ancap on :pol:.jpg,E/NJP+utAVenRcD/jpLhPw==,,,1506196216 142636418,142655934,2017-09-23 19:51:52,">>142655762 Maybe you should read one, Cletus.",,Anonymous,Libertarians.png,xZRxt3TOdF4lJeCxS6ej4g==,,,1506196312 142636418,142656016,2017-09-23 19:52:43,">>142654222 That's correct, but air is a bit of a funny thing when it comes to homesteading. Once you build the skyscraper, you've homesteaded the airspace that it occupies. Before that, though, you need some other structure in place to guarantee your claim to that particular column of air. Alternatively, if your road is wide enough, people seeking to build stuff overhead will have to arrange a contract with you or risk building an unsupported structure. Then you have some leverage over them, though still no technical claim to the airspace.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506196363 142636418,142656181,2017-09-23 19:54:23,">>142655934 Maybe you should fuck off, Claus.",,Anonymous,ancap bird.png,GV8cJqYI+PQ8K3WD7f35kw==,,,1506196463 142636418,142656306,2017-09-23 19:55:34,">>142656181 >muh free speech But only for you, right?",,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,US,,1506196534 142636418,142656470,2017-09-23 19:57:02,">>142656306 >not all Jews t. Libertarians",,Anonymous,Libertarian Jews.jpg,BViQNelwDTGTFHzn3OpIFg==,,,1506196622 142636418,142656675,2017-09-23 19:59:07,I've literally never met another Robert Higgs admirer on /pol/. Why is this?,,Anonymous,1439524.png,5bDFBbJyOEW+FCdyfU6yew==,US,,1506196747 142636418,142656849,2017-09-23 20:00:51,">>142637365 >with us or against us With statism, yes. Mixed economies are not all equivalent to Communism. Keynesianism isn't equivalent, in every facet, to Communism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506196851 142636418,142656865,2017-09-23 20:01:01,">>142656306 god damn I miss when quality posts on /pol/ like this one were the norm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506196861 142636418,142656951,2017-09-23 20:01:58,">>142656181 Not",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506196918 142636418,142657007,2017-09-23 20:02:33,">>142656306 If you're not a libertarian, you're a threat to my existence and must be wiped off the face of the earth.",,Anonymous,christopher-cantwell-1000x500.jpg,wYTVDSFZ+CxDFZ2B8SPIsg==,,,1506196953 142636418,142657227,2017-09-23 20:04:53,">>142656865 It's from Infinity. To be fair, that's where a lot of oldfags took refuge when all these moderates came here. >>142657007 >If you're not a libertarian, you're a threat to my existence and must be wiped off the face of the earth. How is thought policing freedom? How do you use mental gymnastics to justify this? This is EXACTLY what you accuse NatSoc of doing, so how is it wrong when we do it but right when you do?",,Anonymous,Ancient meme of new and oldpol.jpg,YNyUAsv8m0ug8YwwxfLKWQ==,,,1506197093 142636418,142657266,2017-09-23 20:05:22,">>142656016 Does that structure need to have the same height as the skyscraper?",,Anonymous,,,LU,,1506197122 142636418,142657888,2017-09-23 20:12:14,">>142657227 You guys are the initiators of this exchange. You are the ones denying our rights, and you think we should just turn the other cheek? Fuck you. >>142657266 No, but in practice I doubt anyone will seriously attempt to build a skyscraper-height bridge over whatever place-holding structure you erect.",,Anonymous,principles.png,zk2dgyhlrV4bXTH3m61sRQ==,,,1506197534 142636418,142657939,2017-09-23 20:12:49,">tfw Libertarian is meme tier in the United States >tfw its a close as I can get to getting my ideals. Should I one day run for the Libertarian party as a conservative one? The party is growing after all. I'm black but I don't fall for all that extreme lefty shit that is plaguing the party.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506197569 142636418,142658187,2017-09-23 20:15:15,">>142657939 Politics is a waste of time. The American people will never accept libertarian policies. Government in America has been growing non-stop for 200 years and it won't ever stop. The best thing to do as a libertarian is escape America and live in a more free country.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506197715 142636418,142658298,2017-09-23 20:16:21,">>142658187 >Move from best country to a shittier one. One may be freer but it won't be better.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506197781 142636418,142658764,2017-09-23 20:21:22,">>142658298 America sucks. Americans are dumb sheep who beg for more government when their government is the most massive and abusive in the world as is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506198082 142636418,142658953,2017-09-23 20:23:15,Bump,,Anonymous,1502665967355.jpg,lqSlA3aLEKZBg0GyrdL/AQ==,,,1506198195 142636418,142659190,2017-09-23 20:25:49,"Here's Robert Higgs' advice to young people. Get out of this shit country. https://youtu.be/RILDjo4EXV8?t=49m11s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506198349 142636418,142659614,2017-09-23 20:30:09,">>142657888 >You guys are the initiators of this exchange. You are the ones denying our rights, and you think we should just turn the other cheek? Fuck you. And you deny us our rights to exist as well. You aren't special just because you want ""muh freedom"". Freedom - which you poorly define and enforce - is an abstract concept. My definition of freedom is just as good, if not better than yours. You chimp out because you don't want ""freedom"", you want an unrealistic situation where everyone thinks the same exact way you do with no reason to do so. Deal with it, fucktard, individuals are weak compared to groups.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506198609 142636418,142659900,2017-09-23 20:33:20,">>142659614 It isn't unrealistic, we just have to kill everyone who doesn't think like us.",,Anonymous,communist hypocrisy.png,gUpWaYJ5MctN5cWBtVbeGQ==,,,1506198800 142636418,142660317,2017-09-23 20:37:53,">>142659900 >It isn't unrealistic, we just have to kill everyone who doesn't think like us. Even your own children? Your family? People have ethics, kill one and others follow. A state might be OK, but a small community? Not a chance it could survive, especially being weak to Jews, degeneracy, media, and conquest. Also, your pic fails to acknowledge that even though they may not believe that such rights exist, they still do for them. By your logic, I should be able to murder babies because they can't grasp the concept.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506199073 142636418,142660435,2017-09-23 20:39:03,">A folklore exists in this country that we are a peace-loving people. Although a peace-loving American may perchance be found here and there, the generalization is manifestly false. Not for nothing did Geoffrey Perret title his 1989 history of the United States A Country Made by War. If you think Americans in general have a strong preference for peace, you have not been paying attention; nor have you been immersing yourself in history books. The country in which Americans take such pride today is the product of people who were willing, and often eager, to kill anyone who obstructed what they presumed to be their Manifest Destiny. And since 1898, having subdued a vast, resource-rich continent and confined its surviving aboriginal people to desolate tribal reservations, they have made the entire world their blood-soaked sandbox. - Robert Higgs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506199143 142636418,142660881,2017-09-23 20:43:26,">>142660317 >Even your own children? Your family? I don't care who you are, if you aren't a libertarian, you must die. >A community would not survive because it is weak to Jews, degeneracy, media, and conquest Surely that is why the massive metropoles of our nation are the flourishing centers of western culture, and the small rural communities such as those of the amish are so degenerate and devoid of culture. >even if you reject rights, you still have them If you throw away your garbage, do you still have it? >I should be able to murder babies because they can't grasp the concept. Your comparison doesn't make sense. A commie like you outwardly rejects rights, whereas a baby has not learned enough to reject them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506199406 142636418,142661983,2017-09-23 20:54:58,">>142660881 >I don't care who you are, if you aren't a libertarian, you must die. So you want a society of exactly you and your special snowflake ideology? No one in a Libertarian/AnCap society will fucking agree with one another, especially if they are on the scale of a nation. >Surely that is why the massive metropoles of our nation are the flourishing centers of western culture, and the small rural communities such as those of the amish are so degenerate and devoid of culture. >muh all government is the kind I don't like NatSoc Germany was a hub of culture, science, and pride. The quality of life was higher than any other place in the world. Just because you have government doesn't mean it needs to be corrupt. >If you throw away your garbage, do you still have it? Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know rights were a physical thing. protip: it isn't. Whether you want to admit it or not, yes Communists are humans. You may not like it, but it's the sad truth you have to accept. >Your comparison doesn't make sense. A commie like you outwardly rejects rights, whereas a baby has not learned enough to reject them. I don't reject rights, I reject people abusing their rights. I don't deal with people based on my emotions like you faggots, or like deranged criminals, I use written law for consistent punishment. How can a baby ""consent"" to being born? How can it ""consent"" to anything? If I want to torture babies in your shitty society, you can't do shit to stop me. Not unless you grant Commies human rights too by the same logic. Also >everyone who doesn't agree with me is a Commie Leftist who must be killed What exactly separates you from them besides rhetoric?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506200098 142636418,142663284,2017-09-23 21:09:23,">>142661983 >No one in a Libertarian/AnCap society will fucking agree with one another, especially if they are on the scale of a nation. Yeah you dumb fuck, that's why we'd have a free market of covenant communities. If you don't like your neighbors, terminate your contract and go live somewhere else. At least then no one will be so indoctrinated by statism that they'd arrest you and detain you for attempting to leave. >Just because you have government doesn't mean it needs to be corrupt. You are the most brainless dullard I've ever had the displeasure of speaking to. No government in the history of the world has been free of corruption. >Communists are humans No they fucking aren't. If you believe I should live in a social structure where I have no rights, you have rejected all forms of reason and are therefore the ultimate animal. Killing you would be no more immoral than shooting a duck out of the air. >I don't reject rights Then why aren't you a libertarian? Why do you choose to worship a huge centralized state with unfree markets? >If I want to torture babies in your shitty society, you can't do shit to stop me Again, in showing a preference for violence, whether that be with communist rhetoric or violent action against the innocent, you have demonstrated that you reject reason and are therefore an animal. I could stick a pike up your ass and roast you in my backyard, and all would be well. >What separates you from them besides rhetoric? Once again, I am not the initiator of the violence here. We're the ones who wanted a society built on private property rights and non-aggression, but you fucks (commies, nazis, etc.) are the ones who actively deny those assertions in favor of coercive states. Killing you would be self-defense.",,Anonymous,1505171731179.jpg,gACNdGRm/ZG0bH4S5IX7VA==,,,1506200963 142636418,142664208,2017-09-23 21:19:36,">>142663284 >that's why we'd have a free market of covenant communities How fucking naive are you that you think that some faction wouldn't start an empire with a bunch of easily conquered tribes living around? >You are the most brainless dullard I've ever had the displeasure of speaking to. No government in the history of the world has been free of corruption. And no ""individualist"" society has stood against a nation and won. The Greeks had to unite against the Persians and the Americans had to unite against the British. The Americans, I might add, where BTFO by the British soon afterward in the war of 1812, and the articles of confederation, which made all states pretty much independent, made all of the states fight one another. >No they fucking aren't. If you believe I should live in a social structure where I have no rights, you have rejected all forms of reason and are therefore the ultimate animal. Killing you would be no more immoral than shooting a duck out of the air. They are humans. They're fucking dumb, but they are humans. They can organize and mobilize, something which Libertarians and AnCaps could never do. >Then why aren't you a libertarian? Why do you choose to worship a huge centralized state with unfree markets? I don't ""worship a huge centralized state with unfree markets"". I simply want to keep the markets free rather than rigged. If anybody worships anything, it would be the Libertarian and AnCap worship of the concept of private property. The property does NOT make a nation - the people do. >Again, in showing a preference for violence, whether that be with communist rhetoric or violent action against the innocent, you have demonstrated that you reject reason and are therefore an animal. I could stick a pike up your ass and roast you in my backyard, and all would be well. >muh everyone will suddenly be rational in my society where there is no motivation to be rational",,Anonymous,,,,,1506201576 142636418,142664569,2017-09-23 21:23:25,">>142664208 >Once again, I am not the initiator of the violence here I don't care. It still leads to the same outcome as the communists. You want to have thought police round up all who disagree with you. All in the hope that the people who want and stay inside in this batshit insane system with no logic somehow remain good hearted and all agree with each other. We aren't a hivemind, and there are many irrational humans - including you. We are not ready for freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506201805 142636418,142665880,2017-09-23 21:36:14,">>142664208 >How fucking naive are you that you think that some faction wouldn't start an empire with a bunch of easily conquered tribes living around? We'd have preemptively killed those people, remember? >And no ""individualist"" society has stood against a nation and won. I have yet to argue for individualist anarchism, and I never will. I am not against hierarchy and I am not against unity. I am simply against coercion. >They're fucking dumb, but they are humans No, they are not humans. They reject all that distinguishes man from beast (reason, property, non-aggression, etc.), thus it is nonsensical to categorize them as humans. >They can organize and mobilize Like the rats they are >something which libertarians and ancaps could never do This is a regrettable fact of the movement. I would really like to get a secessionist movement going, but alas, the LP remains cucked as ever and the majority of ancaps still can't grasp the concept of borders being ethical defensive measures against anti-property subhumans. >I don't worship a huge centralized state with unfree markets Do you know what your flag is? >Property does NOT make a nation - the people do And what a miserable nation it must be where the people have no property rights. Do you think all the people of Soviet-occupied Europe/Asia preferred their culture to the property rights the commies had taken from them? >everyone will suddenly be rational in my society where there is no motivation to be rational Again, the goal is to kill off all the irrational people so we don't have that problem. >>142664569 >It still leads to the same outcome as the communists No, because in the end, the people left over will have respect for non-aggression and private property. >You want to have thought police round up all who disagree with you You say that like it's a bad thing. >We are not ready for freedom Not until we kill all the commies, we're not!",,Anonymous,AncapAndy.png,or9KgsFbNKgrWugXk0KLuw==,,,1506202574 142636418,142666992,2017-09-23 21:47:29,">>142665880 >We'd have preemptively killed those people, remember? You don't have the numbers or the resources to destroy every nation or state surrounding you, lunatic. >I have yet to argue for individualist anarchism, and I never will. I am not against hierarchy and I am not against unity. I am simply against coercion. Then you are against society and a healthy nation. Self sacrifice is needed, especially in small communities that would make up AnCapistan or Libertarian land. Every person needs to do their part, even if they don't want to. >No, they are not humans. They reject all that distinguishes man from beast (reason, property, non-aggression, etc.), thus it is nonsensical to categorize them as humans. They are indeed humans. They are genetically similar and posses the ability to reason. Beasts have the concept of property and non-aggression as well. A dog will defend it's kill from others, bears mark their territory. Bees don't attack those they don't think threaten them or their hive. >Like the rats they are 1000 rats can beat one cat. >This is a regrettable fact of the movement. I would really like to get a secessionist movement going, but alas, the LP remains cucked as ever and the majority of ancaps still can't grasp the concept of borders being ethical defensive measures against anti-property subhumans. It is because you can't organize or play nice with one another that your ideology is not practical. >Do you know what your flag is? Yes, markets were pretty free and people still had private property. We aren't communists, you just have a knee jerk reaction at the word ""government"" or ""Nazi"". >And what a miserable nation it must be where the people have no property rights. I'm not saying there can't be property rights, there can and should be. >Again, the goal is to kill off all the irrational people so we don't have that problem. That goal is not practical. After, you can't even agree among yourselves. NatSocs are all on the same page.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506203249 142636418,142667647,2017-09-23 21:54:02,">>142665880 >No, because in the end, the people left over will have respect for non-aggression and private property. Or they'll form factions and fight each other for resources, property, and slaves. >You say that like it's a bad thing. It is if you believe in ""muh freedom"". >Not until we kill all the commies, we're not! Communists come from people unsatisfied with Capitalist economics. Their movement didn't form in a vacuum, they were formed after the middle class and upper class ignored all the people they stomped on for profit. You can't ""kill all the commies"", nor do you need to. You need to provide them a quality of life that they are not dissatisfied with. Where laws protect laborers. Where people don't need to the Jews manipulating the markets. You only need to put away the leaders. Honesty, I feel like your entire movement just wants to do drugs, get rid of taxes, or just only cares about memes. You have no practical way of solving your problems besides giving vague answers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506203642 142636418,142667784,2017-09-23 21:55:34,">>142667647 >Where people don't need to fear the Jews manipulating the markets. fixed",,Anonymous,,,,,1506203734 142732103,142732103,2017-09-24 11:29:04,":thinking: This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_thinking.png,0ABheT7GS7RkJl26k/jIOw==,GB,,1506252544 142732103,142732449,2017-09-24 11:32:12,Please be aware that leftist false flagging is real,,Anonymous,communists under libertarian flag.png,5uCaRSp4GAUhmAwhWAU7hg==,,,1506252732 142732103,142733189,2017-09-24 11:38:55,Bump from the Nomad.,,Anonymous,,,,,1506253135 142732103,142733851,2017-09-24 11:44:35,"I swear to fucking Christ, you'll live through the completion of the system",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506253475 142732103,142734530,2017-09-24 11:50:42,,,Anonymous,snek (22).png,fXfMhRMWYPjXsYGjANc5BQ==,,,1506253842 142732103,142735022,2017-09-24 11:55:00,>>142732449,,Anonymous,leftist subversion - posing as a libertarian.png,4lxo4CZ15Iut91NuGlaT2g==,,,1506254100 142732103,142735329,2017-09-24 11:57:38,,,Anonymous,maybetheservericon.png,27kwdern96SRkAqLelGT8Q==,,,1506254258 142732103,142735992,2017-09-24 12:02:29,,,Anonymous,authoritarian-left-hey-whereya-goint-libertarian-left-authoritarian-right-tony-3983427.png,sQYMLH0WcC1pOg9W0LFJgw==,,,1506254549 142732103,142736500,2017-09-24 12:06:09,>>142735022,,Anonymous,leftist subversion.jpg,d0OupTlxktBf0wyIzlzSZw==,,,1506254769 142732103,142736808,2017-09-24 12:08:08,">>142736500 This can't be real, right? They want to ""bash the fash"" by spreading fascist ideology? Also, necessary viewing to understand that leftist subversion is nothing new: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506254888 142732103,142736946,2017-09-24 12:09:04,">>142735329 Touched this up",,Anonymous,lrg_rebellion_tyrants_obedience_god.png,dUGUjX7on6GkPz5GH90h6w==,GB,,1506254944 142732103,142737671,2017-09-24 12:14:16,>>142732103,,Anonymous,IMG_3175.png,ArorjhO7G0Gv/STc3mTo9Q==,,,1506255256 142732103,142737848,2017-09-24 12:15:32,">>142736946 amazing, saved",,Anonymous,snek (4).png,LwTmkXFXp6lhHNxxTWmrZA==,,,1506255332 142732103,142738065,2017-09-24 12:17:15,>>142737848,,Anonymous,IMG_3001.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,,,1506255435 142732103,142738260,2017-09-24 12:18:39,,,Anonymous,IMG_2870.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1506255519 142732103,142738347,2017-09-24 12:19:24,,,Anonymous,IMG_2790.jpg,vaA5c2RXf6lvcn55JcRMYg==,,,1506255564 142732103,142738357,2017-09-24 12:19:27,v3,,Anonymous,lrg_rebellion_tyrants_obedience_god.png,lW6/wED4IFndTLQSOlDnmw==,GB,,1506255567 142732103,142738600,2017-09-24 12:21:16,,,Anonymous,1492648070389.jpg,V6vkcpZrrKGwLKEd/C5i2Q==,,,1506255676 142732103,142739757,2017-09-24 12:29:45,">>142738600 (checked) I had an argument with a natsoc in the last thread trying to make this exact fucking point, but he refused to even acknowledge it. #KillAllCommies",,Anonymous,Socialism.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,,,1506256185 142732103,142740099,2017-09-24 12:32:12,"what are your thoughts on this great man? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Artpo7zalVk",,Anonymous,janusz korwin mikke.jpg,iiHPmk/HgEypWJoE40lzrA==,,,1506256332 142732103,142740184,2017-09-24 12:32:50,http://www.strawpoll.me/14000435,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506256370 142732103,142740360,2017-09-24 12:34:01,">>142740099 Never heard of him, but he sounds great. The growing number of respectable European libertarians give me hope.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506256441 142732103,142741436,2017-09-24 12:41:02,>inb4 natsocs try to shit up the thread,,Anonymous,1505331294123.png,13GT4DAU1XZfCZSfywoeSg==,,,1506256862 142732103,142741986,2017-09-24 12:44:58,">>142741436 >YOU'RE ALL JEWS REEEEEEEEE >YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN CULTURE REEEEEE >CAPITALISM IS DEGENERATE REEEEEEEE >FUCK PRIVATE PROPERTY REEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,being an ancap on :pol:.jpg,E/NJP+utAVenRcD/jpLhPw==,,,1506257098 142732103,142741990,2017-09-24 12:45:01,"Hello lrg. Would like to pose an interesting question to all of you, just copypasting from a previous thread I made. How are you different from the National Socialists on pol, aside from having a different definition of 'socialism'? The original NSDAP definition of socialism is radically different from our current understanding of the word. The original National 'Socialists' were not socialists, by the modern standard they would be radically capitalist, slashing welfare and talking about how unemployment benefits unfairly burden the economy. The National Socialists only used the word 'socialist' to appeal to the millions of communists living in Wiemar Germany. National 'Socialists' should be calling themselves National Capitalists. Right Libertarians and National 'Socialists' have the same ideas, just different definitions of the word 'socialism'. Prove me wrong: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm Original NSDAP economic program. Let me refine the question a bit. If National Socialists were National Capitalists, where would you disagree with them?",,Anonymous,1506220216206.png,5aDAhpApsY8d4+JV/Jto0g==,US,,1506257101 142732103,142742331,2017-09-24 12:47:26,">>142741436 >>142741986 >shitting up your own thread, so nobody else can do it genius",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1506257246 142732103,142742880,2017-09-24 12:51:02,">>142741990 You're so fucking wrong, natsocs want incredible state intervention in the economy. This image is from the link you gave. The nazis introduced paid maternity leave & vacation time, built roads, and created many public sector jobs. Natsoc is anticapitalist.",,Anonymous,Screenshot (70).png,E6+QLzC0q84BbdA9RbtgZw==,,,1506257462 142732103,142743362,2017-09-24 12:54:22,">>142738260 >>142736946 I've just made a quick mix of the both, if you plan to use it outside of /pol/. It not looks as good as the original though",,Anonymous,1506269919480.png,FA50TOQT28IA+XvXisuTOg==,FR,,1506257662 142732103,142743554,2017-09-24 12:55:38,">>142741990 Here is my vision. You're free to believe in national socialism and fighting for power in a revolutionary way, I don't mind that. I just prefer to think more globally, because all governments are extremely fickle, easily overthrown, and people tend to atone for their government's actions in the end. If you put all your faith in one government, one party, the disappointment can be great when it fails (let alone that it's extremely hard to attain power for NatSocs without any domestic and foreign pressure). I don't want to be a slave to illusions, I want to be someone who actually influences things. It's ideas and values that rule the world. And I am not defeatist in that respect. I DO acknowledge the possibility of national socialist states in the future, I just don't trust them because states can be extremely short-lived, and just because you have state power doesn't mean that you'll change people's values in the long run. One coup, one war, one intervention, and it's all gone. That's why I believe it's necessary to change things globally, universally. The ultimate red pill is the understanding that people always seek the approval of each other, and their morality is purely subjective just because of that: they don't reason entirely logically, most of the time people consider things as good and bad just because others approve of that. We need to change the way people approve of things, and in turn we'll change the West.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506257738 142732103,142745634,2017-09-24 13:11:09,">>142742880 I am aware of what the link says. If you read the whole thing not nitpicking for a 'STATIST OMFG' moment, you can clearly see that they were more capitalist than the fucking Republicans are. >The nazis introduced paid maternity leave & vacation time, built roads, and created many public sector jobs. Yes, they also cut welfare to the bone and simply pointed people to unemployment offices, when the jobs at unemployment offices ran out, they created ones so people were doing something productive rather than sitting on their asses all day. That productivity creates demand. If Tyrone were told to go clean graffiti off the walls for his welfare payments, rather than getting them for doing nothing, he would raise property values and generate demand, rather than purely leeching. Natsocs would be attacked as radical capitalists today. >>142743554 So are you a utopian? Because the idea that you're going to change the entire globe to agree with your ideal of stateless society is utopian. I'm not a Natsoc either, because the entire aesthetic is dead and the government was totalitarian. I fit within the ideal of a true paleoconservative, I agree with the founding fathers 100%, including their views of White Nationalism.",,Anonymous,1503107714070.jpg,BY8G2UsrBGqir7hoBQiYoA==,US,,1506258669 142732103,142747001,2017-09-24 13:21:54,">>142745634 >So are you a utopian? Because the idea that you're going to change the entire globe to agree with your ideal of stateless society is utopian. It's used in the identitarian context, so it's not thar far-fetched: most of the word is totally fine with the idea of white autonomy, and the whole diversity and leftist thing is pushed from within the West. Change that and you change the world. The rest of the world is rather stale and impotent, to be honest.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506259314 142732103,142747532,2017-09-24 13:25:30,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8,,Anonymous,fascist snek.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1506259530 142732103,142747664,2017-09-24 13:26:27,">>142745634 In capitalism, the market creates jobs, The state creating jobs is not capitalist you fucking mongoloid. I have made you a graphic, because those are good ways of communicating with children.",,Anonymous,Untitled.png,Cx6lMjNQEFrygLOQJuFzSg==,,,1506259587 142732103,142747740,2017-09-24 13:26:58,">>142740360 Kowin-Mikke is a fucking legend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNUFpvW2fv4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YTe5YNHBQA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr6OkJbaXqQ",,Anonymous,Korwin Mikke.jpg,gk7d9UubqdGUQQy4IywvPw==,,,1506259618 142732103,142747864,2017-09-24 13:27:58,">>142745634 >with your ideal of stateless society is utopian Besides, you misunderstood this part, I am not really an ancap, I just don't rely on the notion of the state too heavily, but I can't really envision the dissolution of the state",,Anonymous,,,,,1506259678 142732103,142748380,2017-09-24 13:31:41,">>142739757 Why not align with them against the commies?",,Anonymous,images.png,3l2iNyO1KJ1TEGdNJzqaoQ==,,,1506259901 142732103,142748809,2017-09-24 13:34:45,">>142748380 The lesser of two evils is still evil, and the enemy of my enemy is not my friend. If you do not believe in individual private property rights, non-aggression, and voluntary association, I don't want to help you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506260085 142732103,142749045,2017-09-24 13:36:23,">>142740099 Awesome, he even has that sick-ass bowtie.",,Anonymous,"ap,550x550,12x16,1,transparent,t.u1.png",WlPq+bE2yfQzuz7RHx/Aag==,,,1506260183 142732103,142749067,2017-09-24 13:36:33,">>142748380 The commies get no support at all. It's fucking hilarious just waltzing in and shitposting to make them all buttmad.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506260193 142732103,142749899,2017-09-24 13:43:07,"How do we convince them otherwise, /lrg/?",,Anonymous,file.png,fCEU5hgOXO9dcyOLipOnSg==,,,1506260587 142732103,142750115,2017-09-24 13:44:53,What is a good country to immigrate to? America fucking sucks.,,Anonymous,higgs.jpg,jurnZpnRfBDfwzyJKxozIA==,US,,1506260693 142732103,142750189,2017-09-24 13:45:34,">>142749899 I don't believe this poll. How diverse was that sample? How much of them were from big cities?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506260734 142732103,142750238,2017-09-24 13:46:01,">>142749899 You don't. Americans are the least libertarian people in the world. The best we can do is give up on this awful country and emigrate to save ourselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506260761 142732103,142750358,2017-09-24 13:46:58,>>142749899,,Anonymous,higgs2.jpg,mjJAteb0h/ZokZqTJU/2oA==,US,,1506260818 142732103,142750491,2017-09-24 13:47:58,">>142749899 >polls",,Anonymous,polls vs monkey.jpg,V9mve1TVt/Qh3kHUCSvvNQ==,,,1506260878 142732103,142750556,2017-09-24 13:48:34,,,Anonymous,729f61c10824a2321dabc53664b6a7e940762634e140060d3f40a5cd57a32e50.gif,ZO5SNPJ3g/60xmV3ugvL6A==,,,1506260914 142732103,142750574,2017-09-24 13:48:39,">>142750189 >>142750491 Well, considering the source is ""smartgunlaws.com,"" I would have my doubts as well. But that's besides the point; people want to take our funs. >>142750238 How are we the least libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506260919 142732103,142750771,2017-09-24 13:50:06,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1465557918507.gif,O+cjaiY1x7a8+tMX4Uiqdw==,NL,,1506261006 142732103,142750921,2017-09-24 13:51:04,">>142750771 >Hello! I am for the collectivization of the economy as well as the abolishment of voluntary association and trade. >I am also a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506261064 142732103,142750967,2017-09-24 13:51:25,">>142750771 >antifa poster",,Anonymous,disgusted roman.png,uXhmaLBtY//7CH5ExoPwAg==,,,1506261085 142732103,142751244,2017-09-24 13:53:19,"This is Robert Higgs' advice to young people. Emigrate and save yourself from this country. Americans are beyond help. https://youtu.be/aZa_f626r_Y?t=50m55s >>142750574 Americans are dumb sheep who continuously surrender their rights when their government is already the most massive and most intrusive in the world.",,Anonymous,higgs4.jpg,tXBlNjKo9qQa3Hzd7sq9MQ==,US,,1506261199 142732103,142751469,2017-09-24 13:54:51,">>142750921 post doesnt make any sense. Communism is just one of many revolutionary ideolgies. And so is libertarianism/anarchism >>142750967 neither does this one",,Anonymous,Autarchia.jpg,aiqgsHxtI1xxaAQhFJk26w==,NL,,1506261291 142732103,142751493,2017-09-24 13:55:00,"1) What is the difference between libertarianism and ancap? 2) Is the NAP enough for a society to function? 3) What is ""aggression""? 4) Who enforces the NAP? 5) What can be done against local warlords? 6) What can be done against hostile non-libertarian/ancap countries?",,Anonymous,anime question.jpg,Yi9h6+OWw5rOS2d/w2jlgA==,EE,,1506261300 142732103,142751539,2017-09-24 13:55:14,">>142751244 The UK nanny state is much worse in my opinion. Congress may be full of imperialists, but we at least have a degree of personal and economic freedom that others don't.",,Anonymous,a vague sense of unease.jpg,h758+zORXkUgVYuqtbyRcQ==,,,1506261314 142732103,142751608,2017-09-24 13:55:45,,,Anonymous,1499546005931.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,,,1506261345 142732103,142752032,2017-09-24 13:59:04,"daily reminder the corporatist state is the final form of economics daily reminder all internationalist and individualist WILL get lined up against the wall daily reminder libertarianism will never ever be thing outside of africa",,Anonymous,Musso8.jpg,IWJQh6NWmMOJEpvG6P7tww==,NL,,1506261544 142732103,142752352,2017-09-24 14:01:18,">>142749899 By carrying actual fully automatic assault weapons on the street.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506261678 142732103,142752360,2017-09-24 14:01:22,">>142752032 >t. failed ideology Enjoy your crippled economy from giving corporate handjobs to slackers who can't compete with the market.",,Anonymous,aa.jpg,/3eCq3PXKaeleicFhAk5dw==,,,1506261682 142732103,142752406,2017-09-24 14:01:43,">>142752352 Sounds good to me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506261703 142732103,142752614,2017-09-24 14:03:31,">>142752360 What happens if and when Jews outcompete gentiles on the market?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506261811 142732103,142752655,2017-09-24 14:03:47,">>142750771 Daily reminder that Mussolini was a manlet and a socialist, and unlike Hitler or Commander Rockwell, he died a VERY shitty death.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506261827 142732103,142752823,2017-09-24 14:04:58,>>142752614,,Anonymous,argumentum_ad_judaism.jpg,I+K/Cpla5OOLWXqPVJsYNA==,GB,,1506261898 142732103,142752862,2017-09-24 14:05:20,">>142752655 wow just btfo him hard, how will he ever recover",,Anonymous,Untitled1.png,CVacgkXdF4Q8uJVfIU5onw==,NL,,1506261920 142732103,142752945,2017-09-24 14:05:59,">>142752614 What happens is that the Jews are proven to be competent businessmen that appeal to the market's desires, leading to a happy society with cheap luxuries.",,Anonymous,mfw102.jpg,hO/PlvROEumxD4gkPjROcQ==,,,1506261959 142732103,142752954,2017-09-24 14:06:01,Isn't it time the government stepped in to solve the problem of food anarchy?,,Anonymous,food.png,jLGN2ST7MBDKVI9+tYAR3w==,US,,1506261961 142732103,142752989,2017-09-24 14:06:19,">>142752032 The state, by definition, is the complement of any ""corporations"" that supposedly act on a private level. Thus, you're grinding your populace between the gear of the System operated by Jews, and its ""market"" wing of the ""corporations"", also largely operated by Jews. That's not ""traditional"", that's not ""reactionary"", that is tyranny and you'll get what tyrants get. Embrace the natural order, it is the only truly reactionary idea in existence. Read Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506261979 142732103,142753047,2017-09-24 14:06:44,">>142752945 All that I needed to know, thanks.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506262004 142732103,142753601,2017-09-24 14:11:11,">>142752862 He won't. A bunch of lefties seized him, shot him, and hung him at a gas station. Hitler commited suicide after all was lost - could have died a hero's death and become a martyr for the cause, but he rejected the opportunity. Rockwell was murdered out of the blue after a string of highly attractive activism and even networking with Black nationalists. He formulated a better refutation of communism than any old-school NatSoc ever could have, and his only shortcoming were his moral sentiments coming in the way of objective ethical standards of human cooperation. At least the Latinx fascist dictators (and let's be real, Pinochet wasn't even a fascist) had good memes.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506262271 142732103,142753692,2017-09-24 14:11:54,">>142752954 :thinking:",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506262314 142732103,142753800,2017-09-24 14:12:42,">>142752945 Eh, if they push the type of stuff they're pushing now, they won't outcompete the Gentiles. Even now they need the state to back them up.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506262362 142732103,142753851,2017-09-24 14:13:06,"Why do libertarians support a system that breaks down in the conceptualization phase? It's dumber than communism, and that's saying something.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506262386 142732103,142753852,2017-09-24 14:13:06,">>142732103 what do you think of the NSDAP?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506262386 142732103,142754064,2017-09-24 14:14:43,">>142753851 >breaks down in the conceptualization phase? What? Capitalism is embedded into everything we hold dear. It's created the modern world.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506262483 142732103,142754332,2017-09-24 14:16:52,">>142753800 Their IQs are extremely high, so presumably they would be able to amass an impressive amount of resources and power for themselves either way.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506262612 142732103,142754396,2017-09-24 14:17:19,">>142732449 >>142735022 thats that belgian he's using different flags.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506262639 142732103,142754485,2017-09-24 14:18:04,">>142754064 What is capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506262684 142732103,142754543,2017-09-24 14:18:31,">>142753852 socialist animals",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1506262711 142732103,142754747,2017-09-24 14:20:10,">>142754064 >What? Capitalism is embedded into everything we hold dear. It's created the modern world. Libertarianism and AnCap, you ding-dong. The ideology of ""Oh, we'll all just hire private security forces and shit, it'll be perfect, it totally won't immediately devolve into a form of feudalism.""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506262810 142732103,142754864,2017-09-24 14:21:04,">>142754543 >socialist animals the NSDAP was not socialist the purged all socialist from the're party in the night of the long knives including strasser. also tax redistribution is not socialism otherwise the military is the biggest welfare queen in the world and roads built with tax funded money is socialsim.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506262864 142732103,142754914,2017-09-24 14:21:29,">>142754747 The state is inefficient. Anything resembling it would fall to private entities. People wouldn't want to live under a (neo) feudal lord.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506262889 142732103,142755001,2017-09-24 14:22:08,">>142735022 are you the gadsen from the other /nsg/ tread?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506262928 142732103,142755321,2017-09-24 14:24:30,">>142749899 How was the question worded in the poll?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506263070 142732103,142755410,2017-09-24 14:25:18,">>142754864 The military at least somewhat serves the citizenry, or it used to during monarchy. Taxation is, however, still theft.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506263118 142732103,142755499,2017-09-24 14:26:00,">>142732103 So the jews that run russia tell putin to tell us not to do anything with NK while the jews here and in isreal want us to do something... i cant keep up with all the Jewery...iran practices missles we sell weapons to saudi arabia so who is arabia going to attack i know their religion and that 3rd temple is up so it run or rise ..goodluck figuring it out i give up ww3",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506263160 142732103,142755507,2017-09-24 14:26:08,">>142755001 No, I simply screencapped this ""libertarian"" from leftypol",,Anonymous,,,,,1506263168 142732103,142755672,2017-09-24 14:27:27,">>142754332 That's largely due to them lacking a lower class, and also state-funded nepotistic organisations and college and job applications. When they're left to fend for themselves, their IQ will drop, and unless they're genocided by the Arabs, they'll improve their genetic stock, too. The best way to outjew the Jew is to turn him into an ordinary Semite, and Semites are largely inferior to whites.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506263247 142732103,142755817,2017-09-24 14:28:43,">>142754064 The modern world is largely tainted by egalitarian principles of democracy. Not much to brag about.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506263323 142732103,142755820,2017-09-24 14:28:44,">>142755507 >No, I simply screencapped this ""libertarian"" from leftypol i made a tread about him and the recent influx of shills. he seems to be a regular shitposter on /nsg/ also i saw you in that tread.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506263324 142732103,142755876,2017-09-24 14:29:04,">>142755410 >Taxation is, however, still theft. can you elaborate?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506263344 142732103,142756022,2017-09-24 14:30:12,">>142752989 >grinding your populace the whole point is class cooperation and national unity. It will require sacrifices for the betterment of society as a whole. Its the only system that will ever deny the jews their subversive tricks. The only one will not place them at the top of society through ursury and internationalism. Autarky destroys them. I also find your bramblings about jews in a fascist society strange and ironic. The fact that libertarianism is jew: the ideolgy doesnt help. >muh tradition i never claimed to be a traditionalist >read hoppe rather kill myself desu",,Anonymous,quote-a-country-has-the-jews-it-deserves-just-as-mosquitoes-can-thrive-and-settle-only-in-swamps-corneliu-zelea-codreanu-220266.jpg,fLs/0G7TGMF/9A2Wzbq16A==,NL,,1506263412 142732103,142756030,2017-09-24 14:30:14,">>142754485 Freedom of association and disassociation, freedom of enterprise, no positive rights, only negative natural rights of man (defined by the natural law), the rule of land. Ethics of Liberty is a good read on the subject, not too long yet very informative.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506263414 142732103,142756058,2017-09-24 14:30:28,">>142754864 >the NSDAP was not socialist >purged all socialist >tax redistribution is not socialism wrong >military is the biggest welfare queen >roads built with tax funded money is socialism indeed.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1506263428 142732103,142756158,2017-09-24 14:31:08,">>142755820 I didn't post there though, it was a different anon",,Anonymous,,,,,1506263468 142732103,142756242,2017-09-24 14:31:49,">>142753852 Better than the Weimar democracy, and MUCH better than the (((Spartacist revolutionaries))) of '18. Freikorps are a militia of peace. However, the doctrine of NSDAP is still inferior to Hoppe's teachings.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506263509 142732103,142756432,2017-09-24 14:33:09,">>142732103 >Libertarian >Right-wing Did you not get the memo that the crypto-conservatives abandoned LP National to form the Tea Party? It happened 10 years ago, anon.",,Anonymous,libertarian classical liberalism revival movement.jpg,YQF1RHiYtADpJXZd9mRbyw==,US,,1506263589 142732103,142756437,2017-09-24 14:33:10,">>142756158 >I didn't post there though, it was a different anon oh alright. >>142756058 >wrong elaborate? >>142756058 >indeed. so you think that tax tation is socialism? what do you think of workers unions than?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506263590 142732103,142756638,2017-09-24 14:34:30,">>142756242 >Freikorps are a militia of peace. no the whe're not the were a private army of thugs.>>142756242 >Hoppe's teachings. do you have any books of him? i'm intrested.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506263670 142732103,142756746,2017-09-24 14:35:21,">>142732103 This helicopter faggotry needs to stop",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506263721 142732103,142756801,2017-09-24 14:35:50,">>142755876 The use of force or threat of such to gain wealth from a target is commonly defined as theft. Since the law must be universally applied (that is implied in its definition a priori), the state does not get a free pass for stealing people's money using the threat of force. As such, all of its gains are illegitimate. When you account for all the dysgenic effects of state action, which I will not go into here (read Democracy - The God that Failed's first chapter), the notion that the state should enforce anything, let alone morality, is equivalent to saying that only the men serving life sentences for crimes against humanity should determine the national policy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506263750 142732103,142757180,2017-09-24 14:38:45,">>142752614 They will play us all against each other ww3. It's happening",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506263925 142732103,142757363,2017-09-24 14:40:06,">>142756801 >read Democracy - The God that Failed's first chapter that advocates for a monarchy which agian has the same problem of taxation and your property belonging to the state. also an argument can be made that taxation is to prevent inflation. >>142756801 >The use of force or threat of such to gain wealth from a target is commonly defined as theft. alright.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506264006 142732103,142757679,2017-09-24 14:42:37,">>142756437 >elaborate? >taxation is socialism? socialism is defined as the state meddling with the economy (ie state capitalism) forcefully collecting money, or stealing businesses from their owners to distribute to croony friends, are resolutely socialist methods >what do you think of workers unions than? I'm fine with those as long as they keep to negotiating with the actual business owners I'm all for willful cooperation now, when they block access to factories, and such shit routinely happening in socialist France (those dimwits even block their clients factories, because they don't buy enough from them in their niggering opinions; eg, tomorrow, they wanna protest against having to work, and truck drivers will block the oil refining plants)... ... then, they must be removed by any mean necessary if they want to protest, their only weapon is refusing to work if they're right, no one will take their place if they're wrong (and they are 99.999% of the time), they should lose their job",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1506264157 142732103,142757946,2017-09-24 14:44:37,">>142756022 Class cooperation cannot come about as long as one part of society is being systematically ripped off by another. Under democracy it's the rich being ripped off by the poor with the help of the state, under communism it's even worse. Capitalism is based on the notion that diversity in the production of goods is desirable, while the production of ""bads"" should be avoided altogether, through the abolition of public property, especially on a nation-wide scale. The Jews require a state for their central banking schemes. Pretty sure Ireland had kicked them out at some point while it was still administered by a natural law-abiding aristocracy (but don't quote me on this). Libertarianism was built by the Spanish scholastics, refined by Austrian economists from Vienna. The fact that the person who brought it to America and the person who tailored it according to objective natural law were both Jewish does not make it a Jewish ideology. (besides, Goebbels looks more Jewish than Mises and Rothbard put together. luckily for him, 23andHeeb wasn't a thing in the 30s. also Codreanu is a Romanian and as such is not to be trusted, as his people are regarded as although not equal or identical to the Gypsies, the resemblance is however still there) Kill yourself if seeing the truth would upset you too much. Better yet, do it the way James Mason would want to see you go - knee deep in dead Communists.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506264277 142732103,142758193,2017-09-24 14:46:30,">>142756432 OH SHIT GUYS THE STATISTS KNOW SHUT IT DOWN QUICK HIDE THE WEED yes goy, we're totally the subversive hand of the Lolspergtardian Party of the Unite-I mean Occupied Lands. Don't compare us to those communists. Also, the Tea Party are too lukewarm. Radicalise.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506264390 142732103,142758305,2017-09-24 14:47:18,">>142757679 >socialism is defined as the state meddling with the economy (ie state capitalism) no it's defined by workers owning the means of production like workers unions and co opratives (steam) is one. >>142757679 >I'm fine with those as long as they keep to negotiating with the actual business owners >I'm all for willful cooperation alright thats good. >>142757679 >now, when they block access to factories, and such shit routinely happening in socialist France (those dimwits even block their clients factories, because they don't buy enough from them in their niggering opinions; eg, tomorrow, they wanna protest against having to work, and truck drivers will block the oil refining plants)... >... then, they must be removed by any mean necessary people who are being mistreated on work have a right to protest agianst the're respective businesses.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506264438 142732103,142758394,2017-09-24 14:48:03,">>142756638 Democracy - The God that Failed would be a good start. There's also other books centered on libertarian-aristocratic strategy, as well as economics and argumentation ethics.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506264483 142732103,142758453,2017-09-24 14:48:31,">>142732103 So, have I managed to convert most of you to minarchism yet?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506264511 142732103,142758485,2017-09-24 14:48:44,">>142756746 t. leftypol We're beyond helicopters now.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1506264524 142732103,142758545,2017-09-24 14:49:10,">>142758394 alright thanks also what kind of system do you propose? ancapitalism? or minarchism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506264550 142732103,142758628,2017-09-24 14:49:46,">>142757363 The problem is much lesser than in a democracy, and in later parts of the book he further elaborates on the increased efficiency and ethical high ground of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506264586 142732103,142759305,2017-09-24 14:54:40,">>142758628 >The problem is much lesser than in a democracy, and in later parts of the book he further elaborates on the increased efficiency and ethical high ground of libertarianism. alright thanks for the discussion l8r;)",,Anonymous,,,,,1506264880 142732103,142759572,2017-09-24 14:56:43,">>142758305 >no it's defined by workers owning the means of production wrong: that is communism socialism is pretty much that, but under the firm grasp of a totalitarian state, that which is supposed to eventually give birth to stateless communism (even if it actually never does, because people are people, and communism goes against Human nature) >people who are being mistreated on work have a right to protest agianst the're respective businesses absolutely and as I said, the only acceptable way to do that is refusing to work (which they could take as an opportunity to start their own businesses, with their own supposedly better ways) if their claims are right, no one else will take their job else, they deserve to lose it in favour of others being less self-entitled jackasses but blocking access to factories they don't even own is a terrorist method, and should be dealt with the uttermost brutality",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1506265003 142732103,142759592,2017-09-24 14:56:55,">>142758545 Minarchism is a good way if you wish to leave the door open for the Jews to return. I'll give my thanks to the NatSocs for opening my eyes on this issue - abolition of the System is the only option. Pretty much an aristocratic society centered around land-owners. You'd see a regression of cities and a resurgence of rural lifestyle as people will want to carve out a place for themselves. Either they'll live off their own homesteaded land, or form a community based on the protection of kin, or form a larger settlement with freedom to leave and rules set up by the original pioneer family, or a city-state with the aforementioned option to free exit. I don't think large land monopolists would form because you'd need to homestead land to own it, which is not possible on a very large scale.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506265015 142732103,142759675,2017-09-24 14:57:30,">>142759305 Much appreciated.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506265050 142732103,142760820,2017-09-24 15:06:12,"Can anarchism work, in your opinion, in a society where the majority doesn't believe in argumentation ethics and physical removal and all that?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506265572 142732103,142761191,2017-09-24 15:08:47,">>142757946 nobody is getting ripped of except the mafia, the subversive aristocracy and internationalists. >diversity in the production of goods is desirable it is desirable if your only objective is material wealth >adhoms not even going to read them",,Anonymous,1490700697971.jpg,bVdmFj65NvDU1pvYxeR4TA==,NL,,1506265727 142732103,142761239,2017-09-24 15:09:11,">>142760820 of course not society is the outcome of people interacting not the other way (like socialists always believe, when trying to create their eternal ""new man"") and we only get the society we deserve",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1506265751 142732103,142762191,2017-09-24 15:16:29,">>142752954 if a black market for drugs, guns and child porn wasnt enough now you have a black market for food",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506266189 142732103,142762540,2017-09-24 15:19:19,">>142742880 Lolbergtarians would happily import the 3rd World into the West because muh open boarders, thus turning the west into the 3rd World.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506266359 142732103,142762650,2017-09-24 15:20:06,">>142761239 so the ultimate goal is something like a good piece of land dedicated for liberty, not establishing a large order. A cohesive community dedicated to achieving an articulate goal surely makes things a lot easier.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506266406 142732103,142764575,2017-09-24 15:33:59,"Who else here just wants a voluntary country, that still gets taxes and uses them, but is constantly threatened to be efficient by the right of the people to secede?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506267239 142732103,142764769,2017-09-24 15:35:27,">>142761191 The mafia and aristocracy is the people's defense against the state, and the internationalists are the logical consequence of the state. You're trying to deny basic laws of economics and masking it under layers of altruism. Nice tricks, Schlomo, I bet the civic nationalist Mussolini and not-an-anti-semite Mosley would be delighted to see this. Also, nice alternative argument against democracy - it really can be attacked from any direction after all.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506267327 142732103,142764924,2017-09-24 15:36:38,">>142762540 That's the party. No such thing as open borders in a libertarian society - you either own the land and are made to bear the responsibility for the consequences of your actions, or you don't own it and don't get a vote on what happens.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506267398 142732103,142765853,2017-09-24 15:43:27,">>142741990 GET YOUR NAZI NATIONAL (((SOCIALIST))) BULLSHIT OUT OF HERE. Fucking disgrace that you kike authoritarian boot lickers associate your failed nazi symbols with the Gadsden flag. FUCK YOU",,Anonymous,,,,,1506267807 142732103,142765945,2017-09-24 15:44:09,LIBERTY OR DEATH,,Anonymous,commies get out dont tread on me11.jpg,sYUfTs/5OySQR/H9LBkyog==,,,1506267849 142732103,142765964,2017-09-24 15:44:18,">>142765853 :thinking:",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506267858 142732103,142766061,2017-09-24 15:44:59,">>142732103 absurd that these threads are allowed but ethnostate generals get shut down. Really makes you think",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506267899 142732103,142766103,2017-09-24 15:45:19,">>142732103 Libertarianism should be called Jewbertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506267919 142732103,142766264,2017-09-24 15:46:34,">>142766061 americans ruined any chance for an ethnostate when imported niggers from africa for slave labor. One of the biggest mistakes in history",,Anonymous,2wings1bird_UnitedNations_FederalReserve_Tyranny.png,D4zb7x7/ROYRu5LSYttpuA==,,,1506267994 142732103,142766376,2017-09-24 15:47:25,">>142766103 ah yes Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Samuel Adams, they were jewish right? Fucking subversive national (((socialist))) book licker",,Anonymous,,,,,1506268045 142732103,142766681,2017-09-24 15:49:41,">>142766061 >>142766103 I'm a contributor to /esg/, got accused of LARPing once. White Nationalism is implicitly libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506268181 142732103,142766773,2017-09-24 15:50:20,">>142766264 Actually, libertarianism is on the far right.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506268220 142732103,142766885,2017-09-24 15:51:09,">>142766264 truth be told, this is an awful image",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506268269 142732103,142766910,2017-09-24 15:51:22,">>142766773 yes on a tyranny vs anarchy spectrum. Most people dont know what ""left vs right"" means so I avoid the terms in every speaking",,Anonymous,tyranny_vs_anarchy.png,vC+cBraFAxse0Ui8usJCeQ==,,,1506268282 142732103,142766976,2017-09-24 15:51:57,">>142766885 nice argument faggot. Why is it an awful image?",,Anonymous,dude_wheres_your_argument.png,WLPSbu+lSP5k3/TBSNO3mA==,,,1506268317 142732103,142767041,2017-09-24 15:52:27,">>142766103 Nice try kike. We're not falling for you subversion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506268347 142732103,142767174,2017-09-24 15:53:26,">>142766976 it wasn't an argument, but an opinion. i don't think the bird parable is that clever",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506268406 142732103,142767231,2017-09-24 15:53:50,">>142749899 >smartgunlaws.org I'll bet the sample was split between Florida and California because they couldn't be fucked to sample anyone else.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506268430 142732103,142767365,2017-09-24 15:54:55,>>142766910,,Anonymous,1506017084977.png,bOa1quTuGJaTXFLBhRRFsA==,,,1506268495 142732103,142767393,2017-09-24 15:55:11,">>142766910 It's artificial chaos vs. natural order, left and right, respectively. All societal relations are naturally built in a libertarian system.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506268511 142732103,142767741,2017-09-24 15:58:06,">>142767393 >artificial chaos vs. natural order these are vague terms that a braindead wouldnt be able to grasp",,Anonymous,,,,,1506268686 142732103,142768206,2017-09-24 16:01:28,"Hey popping in this thread to denounce any and all PHYSICAL REMOVAL without prior PHYSICAL AGGRESSION, it's that simple folks. FOLLOW. THE. NAP. IT. DENOUNCES. STATISM. LET COMMUNISTS CURSE AND SWEAR AND WAVE THEIR FISTS THE INSTANT THEY RAISE A WEAPON AND POINT IT YOUR WAY, BLOW THEM AWAY THE SECOND YOU DO IT IN RESPONSE TO EMPTY WORDS, YOU ARE THE STATIST, NOT THEY",,Anonymous,gadsden.svg.png,4kGEWlb4IMNCbLLt7z2Q0w==,,,1506268888 142732103,142768507,2017-09-24 16:03:59,">>142768206 The fact that they vote is aggression enough.",,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1506269039 142732103,142768687,2017-09-24 16:05:31,">>142768206 Endorsed",,Anonymous,based_ron.png,ONq9KemJD4uFo1ZCARvqlg==,GB,,1506269131 142732103,142768850,2017-09-24 16:06:54,">>142768507 voting is not real in any nation that fails to make NAP violations unconstitutional. All present nations fail outstandingly to meet my standards for a minarchist state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506269214 142732103,142768884,2017-09-24 16:07:08,">>142764769 >people's defence against the state sure thing >logical consequences of the state its the consequence of wishing to destroy patriotism >layers of altruism the laws of economics should be bent in favour of altruism >nice trick schlomo is this a joke? >more namecalling again, whatever >nice alternative argument against democracy was more meant for the first part",,Anonymous,1499380167315.jpg,BViQNelwDTGTFHzn3OpIFg==,NL,,1506269228 142732103,142768998,2017-09-24 16:08:05,">>142732103 The government should only receive revenue from tariffs. Prove me wrong.",,Anonymous,Taxes.png,RBjpfhXZDNwxBC1msqWWsQ==,US,,1506269285 142732103,142769025,2017-09-24 16:08:15,">>142768206 being a communist violates the NAP",,Anonymous,lrg flamethrower.png,Zq0uGjcgUHq153vCHzc7WA==,,,1506269295 142732103,142769101,2017-09-24 16:08:50,">>142738260 Ok, what if I agree with all of this, but I smoke weed. Lots of people think weed is degenerate and is self destructive, but that's based on anecdotal evidence of their loved ones or some rando 'dude weed' on the street. They don't want to admit that their loved ones are shit people so they blame weed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506269330 142732103,142769282,2017-09-24 16:10:20,">>142768884 You're a kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506269420 142732103,142769335,2017-09-24 16:10:38,">>142769025 but you do acknowledge this isn't Hoppe's position, this is of your own rigging",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506269438 142732103,142769424,2017-09-24 16:11:19,">>142768206 >make private Cool Guys Club on private land that only allows cool guys to enter per terms of the C.G.C. >cool guys proceed to enter club and be cool >allscool.jpg >while smoking cigars and being cool, a man among the club says something clearly... not cool >allsnotcool.jpg >membership to my private cool guys club is revoked and he is promptly PHYSICALLY REMOVED™ >allscoolagain.jpg tell me why this is a bad thing?",,Anonymous,b99ff3df2053551fbe27c0c72d6f101ac78a5db8_full.jpg,3I2e7dJ52W7XrdamiQo4LQ==,US,,1506269479 142732103,142769536,2017-09-24 16:12:10,"I find it hilarious actually to see you pacifist liberals rave on about physical removal and helicopter rides. The many will always be stronger than the individual, remember that. >>142769282 explain please",,Anonymous,A79135971.png,DMXbAuCjL2M7fTzCdCedtA==,NL,,1506269530 142732103,142769540,2017-09-24 16:12:12,">>142769025 ""Being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions."" I don't see ""communist"" anywhere in this definition, chap.",,Anonymous,locke.png,fuFcHBPJVfaPnTcqrpMG0Q==,,,1506269532 142732103,142769785,2017-09-24 16:14:04,">>142769424 Your property yes, your neighbor who is cool with people saying uncool things, NO. The communist entering your property, that is aggression. Not YOUR PROPERTY? NOT AGGRESSION!!!",,Anonymous,,,,,1506269644 142732103,142770725,2017-09-24 16:21:22,">>142768998 You got me it sounds very appealing Feds only get tariff taxes, states only get sales taxes?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506270082 142732103,142771014,2017-09-24 16:23:44,">>142768884 Oh look, seems like Proxy Jew: The Country has decided to run his mouth. Better go invest in some tulips, faggot. I can run Chad hominem circles around you, you don't measure up. I'll hit you with bantz the levels of which your entire bloodline hasn't felt since an SS officer cucked your grandmother's husband during the Blitzkrieg. Your admiration for the Italians will be shattered once we capture Rome and rebuild the Colosseum using the paving material from the roads, which will be made obsolete because of the lowered price of private helicopters due to extensive removal of communists. Your entire ideology will be made look like the joke it is in front of your very teary eyes. And then we'll shoot you, because non-AnCap beliefs violate the NAP. Nuffin person-hell, watch Molymeme to learn more.",,Anonymous,banana trooper.jpg,0rUxrpxbvBl31lavbCMOaA==,SK,,1506270224 142732103,142771023,2017-09-24 16:23:49,">>142769335 >>142769540 >all I want is to take all your property and kill you if you disagree, pls stop oppressing me :(",,Anonymous,marxist leninist.jpg,KBFERYgEg1cHmjSRVqOUoA==,,,1506270229 142732103,142771404,2017-09-24 16:26:49,"Guys, is geolibertarian monarchy compatable with the nap? >geolibertarian=only tax land to fund government >monarchy in this case = private ownership of the country",,Anonymous,NietzscheGun.jpg,hxiHzMQlZspxUZ8ID3tMGQ==,US,,1506270409 142732103,142771464,2017-09-24 16:27:19,">>142771023 HE IS SAYING ""I WANT TO STEAL FROM YOU"" HE IS NOT ACTUALLY STEALING FROM YOU, LIKE AS IN REALLY ACTUALLY DOING IT YOU ARE SAYING ""I WANT TO STEAL FROM HIM"" WILL YOU ACTUALLY STEAL FROM HIM? ARE YOU ACTUALLY REALLY GOING TO DO IT? I think I've made it pretty clear-cut for you. Are you a statist? Yes or no, motherfucker.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506270439 142732103,142771560,2017-09-24 16:28:06,">>142771014 jew, anti-semite AND comedian. You really have it all",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506270486 142732103,142771611,2017-09-24 16:28:41,">>142769536 >pacifist You wish. Your manlet idol's inability to fight anyone other than Ethiopian niggers and Alb*nians transferred to his troops, and let's not get started on the combat prowess of the Romanians. If their 0.05% Pure Roman Phenotype tells them anything, they should send their 2 million gypsy auxiliaries ahead both as cannon fodder and as a way to deprive the enemy of any metal equipment from his armed forces. Also, you're a kike because you use deliberate misinterpretation and do nothing when called out on it. I've had it with your Jewish tricks, Anne Frank.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506270521 142732103,142771721,2017-09-24 16:29:42,">>142741990 Oh look, it's one of those people who make the entire right wing as well as this chan look bad.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506270582 142732103,142771739,2017-09-24 16:29:52,">>142771023 just stated the man's opinion, since so few of his supporters actually bother with reading him",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506270592 142732103,142771820,2017-09-24 16:30:34,">>142771560 Your J-dar is messed up. I'm descended from farmers and miners from 3 nations, not from an entire country of merchants. Though by this time, you're more likely to be an Arab merchant than an Aryan one. Also, I'm a proud anti-Semite. Somebody oughtta stop these kikes.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506270634 142732103,142771954,2017-09-24 16:31:46,">>142770725 That would be ideal. What do you think cities should tax?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506270706 142732103,142771984,2017-09-24 16:31:59,">>142771739 I've read his book. Good natural rights-centered refutation of absolute monarchy, but does not properly adress the inner rotten nature of the state. Also, seems to prefer democracy/constitutional republic to monarchy. Ew. 5/10, try again.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506270719 142732103,142772015,2017-09-24 16:32:18,"Does anyone here miss when /pol/ had a larger Libertarian population? Remember ron /pol/? Remember when it wasn't assumed that because you occasionally browse 4chan you're a nazi who likes to run over ""degenerate"" protesters?",,Anonymous,1308560355022.jpg,z5PGUgCEA9W9VgvI2w9seg==,,,1506270738 142732103,142772075,2017-09-24 16:32:59,">>142771404 Only if the people have the right to secession.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506270779 142732103,142772163,2017-09-24 16:33:52,"Is punching a voter justified? After all, their votes are aiding the state which violates my liberty and they can vote for further violations and coercion.",,Anonymous,COMMIES.png,vuKn2zOeHg1kjm92F4pPTg==,ES,,1506270832 142732103,142772270,2017-09-24 16:34:50,">>142771611 redirection: the post >>142771820 >I'm a proud anti-semite by following the ideology of the jew? dont make me laugh",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506270890 142732103,142772329,2017-09-24 16:35:19,">>142750771 >semantic argument Bravo",,Anonymous,,,,,1506270919 142732103,142772396,2017-09-24 16:35:50,">>142772075 As in the right to squat on my property, I don't think so!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506270950 142732103,142772462,2017-09-24 16:36:21,">>142772015 Libertarians aren't bad folks but long term it will fail because the assumption that others will give you the freedom and space they give you is naive at best.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506270981 142732103,142772513,2017-09-24 16:36:42,">>142747532 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 Did he admit this was satire?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506271002 142732103,142772598,2017-09-24 16:37:29,">>142771984 It's just that the most ardent helicopter memers seem to worship his ideas of physical removal without even knowing what he meant by that",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506271049 142732103,142772638,2017-09-24 16:37:53,">>142772015 I am all for constitutional libertarianism. It shuts down the disgusting pinochet helicopter folks pretty fast anyway. Thomas Jefferson, signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, said this: ""No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.""",,Anonymous,jefferson.png,ZoLP6Qa+hwxfHAx0i8CiSQ==,,,1506271073 142732103,142773156,2017-09-24 16:42:00,">>142772015 It's not the natsoc influx that bothers me, but their complete ignorance of economics. They're happy to talk about how historical events taught in public school are bs, or how the social sciences are corrupt. But even mention the science of human action might not be what they were taught and they start spouting stuff they were told in highschool about how we'd have children working 24 hour days for 2 cents a year if it wasn't for the government.",,Anonymous,1499494402692.jpg,hL2Fy6YneewlW96TlhF6Gg==,US,,1506271320 142732103,142773312,2017-09-24 16:43:18,">>142772015 I prefer to call them irredeemable communist scum, but yeah, I see your point.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506271398 142732103,142773365,2017-09-24 16:43:49,">>142772270 Nice try kike.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506271429 142732103,142773483,2017-09-24 16:44:44,">>142772462 >they will give you No positive rights here, sir. I'll shoot them if they try to take stuff away from me, though.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506271484 142732103,142773786,2017-09-24 16:46:22,">>142772598 Hoppe or Locke now? I was referring to Locke's Second Treatise of Gubmint. I know that Hoppe means eviction by ""physical removal"", but it's good memes. Shut up. Also it's not murder if they're commies/democucks.",,Anonymous,hoppe researchers btfo.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,SK,,1506271582 142732103,142773932,2017-09-24 16:47:32,">>142773156 6 GORILLION HOUR WORK DAYS >captcha: roads",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506271652 142732103,142774087,2017-09-24 16:48:50,">>142765853 Nice argument faggot. The majority of pol's natsocs are former Libertarians. There is a reason that Libertarianism is falling apart, because it encompasses too large of a utopian idea. This has lead to schisms between the left and right factions of the ideology, and is why lrg exists at all. There is actually very little difference between Natsocs and Right Libertarians, the primary one being how socialism is defined, and the second being the question of dictatorship. Again a misnomer, because the Natsocs do not believe that Hitler was a dictator, so this point is also a goofy argument where Libertarians and Natsocs are arguing about two different definitions of the same thing. These two factions appear to be coming together under the American flag and the idea that America was built to be a White nation, as shown in what the founding fathers said. This idea is exhibited by the most recent Murdoch Murdoch, and shows precisely where 'the movement' is headed. American aesthetic, classic American ideals mixed with White Nationalism.",,Anonymous,7362f1b0e4e617d5b2fac771136518011a1b43fca32491b3e01e91c2ab1f5fd2.jpg,1by1PNJfLSI/6lW8zpgD3A==,US,,1506271730 142732103,142774253,2017-09-24 16:50:16,">>142771739 he probably has the highest ratio of followers to readers compared to other political philosophers desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506271816 142732103,142774656,2017-09-24 16:53:35,">>142773156 I think the key is a balance between social well-being and economics. This quote, often the go-to against libertarians by that particular group of natsocs, uses the word only for a reason. Economics and Society both shape people, and only by understanding both can we move forward.",,Anonymous,Ride Muh Tiger.png,a2nrwE68pZsMVjO+bI2vQw==,US,,1506272015 142732103,142774697,2017-09-24 16:53:54,">>142773786 Hoppe. >Also it's not murder if they're commies/democucks. >>142769536",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506272034 142732103,142775200,2017-09-24 16:57:46,">>142774697 shaking in my boots here",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506272266 142732103,142775304,2017-09-24 16:58:34,">>142775200 the idea was to ""repost"" your picture",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506272314 142732103,142775399,2017-09-24 16:59:24,">>142732103 Go back to lefty/pol, faggot. Your kind isn't welcome here.",,Anonymous,616.jpg,FAAuarYbxrLemp90MyNa7g==,US,,1506272364 142732103,142775559,2017-09-24 17:00:38,">>142775399 Did you even read the image you posted",,Anonymous,file.png,2mxqq+aQdDCjsa0W67NasQ==,GB,,1506272438 142732103,142775686,2017-09-24 17:01:34,"Recent convert from the libertarian left. I've been a libertarian my whole life, and most likely will remain so, but I just can't stand the leftism that's seeping in. It was LLs themselves that made me go right actually-seeing how cucked they are, their snarkiness, their propensity for eating their own and the constant language policing and social capital squabbles were too much. I couldn't stand supposed ""libertarians"" crying about basic facts and whining over words I will admit lefties can be lulzy, they're so wimpy and beta. The amount of cringe I come across on a daily basis is unbelievable. Thinking about creating a page for it It was actually the 2016 election that sparked it off. I hated both candidates, but trump was incredibly lulzy and I hate hillary clinton with a burning passion-but sadly I saw too many ""libertarians"" who were earnestly supporting her with their main reasoning being she wasn't trump. It made me more and more sympathetic to him",,Anonymous,,,,,1506272494 142732103,142775808,2017-09-24 17:02:33,">>142774656 What you call social well being I call disgenics. The reason Evropa is a shadow of its former self and overflowing with soyboys and cucks is because of these redistribution policies that have allowed the weak to survive off the work of the strong.",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,BTX4wii/+5Cs5XxdaHn58Q==,US,,1506272553 142732103,142776045,2017-09-24 17:04:35,">>142775686 Worst of all is their pathetic need to be respected by leftists!",,Anonymous,,,,,1506272675 142732103,142776058,2017-09-24 17:04:44,">>142775808 I'm not referring to welfare. I'm mostly referring to community. Welfare is dysgenic, and I don't support it in any way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506272684 142732103,142776139,2017-09-24 17:05:19,">>142775399 >do it in chunks. Their shit can get terribly depressing if you work longer than an hour at a time.",,Anonymous,1497964018583.gif,ZIDzOOkiznBCBeVqvwZaoA==,US,,1506272719 142732103,142777331,2017-09-24 17:14:54,">>142775808 Namely the idea of ending decentralization at the local community level, based upon covenants between property-owning individuals. These individuals would have the synthesis of property norms and upholding a high social standard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506273294 143038947,143038947,2017-09-26 20:40:31,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Ps2MwGX RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Open] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA [Open] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Open] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Open] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Open]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Crim,1505953511979s.jpg,dxQUsDLOihsbDDCdHQBvCw==,,,1506458431 143059496,143059496,2017-09-27 00:13:08,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Ps2MwGX RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Open] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA [Open] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Open] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Open] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Open]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Crim,1505953511979s.jpg,dxQUsDLOihsbDDCdHQBvCw==,,,1506471188 143059496,143061086,2017-09-27 00:32:08,Bumping the book torrent alone is worth the convo.,,Anonymous,,,,,1506472328 143446259,143446259,2017-09-30 11:29:53,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,tu_nu_cede_malis_sed_contra_audentior_ito_small.png,coO0nd0Z/VDxw9cMGy5w5g==,GB,,1506770993 143446259,143446410,2017-09-30 11:31:36,Bump from Nomad,,Anonymous,lrg badge personal smaller alt.png,W8YIup2IfaKJ3XxiE94row==,,,1506771096 143446259,143446587,2017-09-30 11:33:40,God bless /lrg/,,Anonymous,christophercantwell1000x500.jpg,wYTVDSFZ+CxDFZ2B8SPIsg==,US,,1506771220 143446259,143446874,2017-09-30 11:36:39,">>143446259 I don't know how anyone can be anything but libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506771399 143446259,143447000,2017-09-30 11:38:00,"Hail liberty, death to the democrats.",,Anonymous,socracy.jpg,YjRZMDXv6Om7JjsXz/H/oQ==,,,1506771480 143446259,143447160,2017-09-30 11:39:37,>tfw Libertarians create the all white nation first and don't allow NEETsoc in because they're fucking socialists.,,Anonymous,B5B7A289ED9F4843AB5453572A66D651.jpg,lbQWB6LGHFcYqoNJDMF86w==,US,,1506771577 143446259,143447975,2017-09-30 11:48:23,,,Anonymous,1504132663960.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1506772103 143446259,143448147,2017-09-30 11:50:10,"“Democracy has nothing to do with freedom. Democracy is a soft variant of communism, and rarely in the history of ideas has it been taken for anything else.” “If the right to vote were expanded to seven year olds … its policies would most definitely reflect the ‘legitimate concerns’ of children to have ‘adequate’ and ‘equal’ access to ‘free’ french fries, lemonade and videos.” “There can be no socialism without a state, and as long as there is a state there is socialism. The state, then, is the very institution that puts socialism into action; and as socialism rests on aggressive violence directed against innocent victims, aggressive violence is the nature of any state.” “Egalitarian and relativistic sentiments find steady support among ever new generations of adolescents. Owing to their still incomplete mental development, juveniles, especially of the male variety, are always susceptible to both ideas.” “Conflict is not unavoidable. However, it is nonsensical to consider the institution of a state as a solution to the problem of possible conflict, because it is precisely the institution of a state which first makes conflict unavoidable and permanent.” “In a covenant...among proprietor and community tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property, no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists, not even to unlimited speech on one’s own tenant-property. One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very covenant of preserving and protecting private property, such as democracy and communism. There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from society.” Socialists and statists will not be tolerated.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506772210 143446259,143448210,2017-09-30 11:50:56,This picture was supposed to go with the above post.,,Anonymous,1491415505553.jpg,ckKjaFAUScKcuxT33B/0Hg==,,,1506772256 143446259,143448257,2017-09-30 11:51:42,">>143448210 Hail Hoppe, Hail Rothbard (pbuh)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506772302 143446259,143448340,2017-09-30 11:52:36,">>143448257 Hail Bastiat, Hail Mises, Hail Rothbard, Hail Hoppe, Hail Libertas!",,Anonymous,sgHtBQ7.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1506772356 143446259,143449643,2017-09-30 12:07:33,,,Anonymous,globalismnwo1.png,9oWXYAEdCC8Nnq4ckVtWTQ==,US,,1506773253 143446259,143449689,2017-09-30 12:07:57,">>143446259 > people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Contraband is a contradiction by definition in American law. To believe otherwise levels you closer with Hillary than the founding fathers. Contraband - Any property that it is illegal to produce or possess. If the government can seize your property, you had no right to that property. If you had no right to that property, you did not have the right to property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506773277 143446259,143449821,2017-09-30 12:09:32,">>143449689 Most of us don't even believe in a government, yet alone contraband. What's your point?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506773372 143446259,143450132,2017-09-30 12:12:58,">>143449689 >If you don't have the right to the property then you don't have the right to the property We're clearly dealing with an intellectual god here, everyone give him room, his brain takes up a lot of space.",,Anonymous,tfw2smartformemes.jpg,lgzdtXqY8vlBkAPI8do5fA==,,,1506773578 143446259,143450419,2017-09-30 12:16:20,">current year >he's still libertarian Start reading Moldbug. https://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-i-am-not-libertarian.html",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506773780 143446259,143450637,2017-09-30 12:19:04,">>143449689 What intrinsically distinguishes contraband from other property?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506773944 143446259,143450660,2017-09-30 12:19:19,">>143449821 That contraband is the primary form of discrimination in property rights. If the government seizes contraband on the nature of its criminality, such seizure renders the right to property nonexistent",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506773959 143446259,143450851,2017-09-30 12:21:20,">>143450132 Misquotation anon > *right to property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506774080 143446259,143450925,2017-09-30 12:22:05,">>143450660 I think you and I are using vastly different definitions of discrimination",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506774125 143446259,143451051,2017-09-30 12:23:31,">>143449689 Your rights do not come from nor can they be taken from you by other men. Only your life can be taken from you if you let it. Don't confuse my use of life to mean just this mortal coil. Your life is your property, the time you have sacrificed to acquire the property makes it your property. Do you think might makes right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506774211 143446259,143451341,2017-09-30 12:26:51,">>143448147 This is easily solvable by applying democracy not for the individual, but rather the nuclear family unit. Each family comprised of father, mother, children, have one vote. Whenever one of the children goes on to create his own family he then gets another vote as an autonomous being. The fundamental rights of Life, Liberty, Property are sanctimonious, but they are indeed being assaulted by the new age idea of democracy for all, hyper individualism that is irrational. Giving votes to childless women and men have distorted the societal balance, akin to giving the vote to niggers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506774411 143446259,143451749,2017-09-30 12:31:02,">>143451341 That's definitely one solution that would mitigate the negative effects of democracy and create a more stable conservative republic, but I still believe that a constitutionally limited princely government is superior.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506774662 143446259,143451989,2017-09-30 12:33:57,">>143449689 >>143450660 what did he mean by this",,Anonymous,1492912476795.jpg,QV0I2xC+k9P/onnyfODcYQ==,,,1506774837 143446259,143451998,2017-09-30 12:34:02,">>143450637 The nature of it being unlawful which means the right to property was never there. It's circularly contradictory. > you have the right to property, authorities must obtain warrants to protect you from illegal search and seizure (the implication being that they have reasonable suspicion that there is evidence of a crime) > later enact laws that make some property a crime to possess. Now they have reasonable suspicion to search and seize your property for the suspicion of you possessing property. > If it is a crime to possess property, there is no right to property. It is in line with the legal usage of privilege, something that the government permits for those in good faith",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506774842 143446259,143452290,2017-09-30 12:37:26,Privatize environmental protection.,,Anonymous,Nature.png,j70Uf7fHWMbQeydgPiCceA==,US,,1506775046 143446259,143452339,2017-09-30 12:37:58,">>143450925 > people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. What do you mean by this then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506775078 143446259,143452354,2017-09-30 12:38:07,">>143451998 >He thinks that rights only come from the state",,Anonymous,Girls.jpg,npbnsvaeI4R3NtDQoY8m8A==,,,1506775087 143446259,143452676,2017-09-30 12:41:37,">>143452354 Civil forfeiture and the Nixonian drug legislation are entirely federal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506775297 143446259,143452748,2017-09-30 12:42:20,">>143452339 Free association under property rights implies that people will exclude undesirables ie, counter cultural degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506775340 143446259,143452807,2017-09-30 12:43:06,">>143452676 We're not for state seizure of property. Whats your point?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506775386 143446259,143453250,2017-09-30 12:48:18,,,Anonymous,1505979417230.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1506775698 143446259,143453558,2017-09-30 12:51:30,">>143453250 Fucking saved.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506775890 143446259,143454011,2017-09-30 12:56:14,">>143452748 >property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values That's very different from how the original post read. So the right to property disallows government intervention in who you permit to enter your property? I agree, discrimination in this regard is a facet of ownership",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506776174 143446259,143454164,2017-09-30 12:57:51,>Ludwig von Mises wouldn't be welcome in Libertarian Right threads,,Anonymous,,,,,1506776271 143446259,143454214,2017-09-30 12:58:22,">>143454011 Not just who you allow in your property, who you choose to serve or associate with in any manner. Abolish civil rights!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506776302 143446259,143454339,2017-09-30 12:59:41,">>143454164 He was a classical liberal who supported the existence of a democratic state, but his work is still monumentally important to the right-libertarian movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506776381 143446259,143454689,2017-09-30 13:03:32,">>143453558 Had the same reaction when I first saw it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506776612 143446259,143454835,2017-09-30 13:05:13,">>143454164 Why would you assume this? /lrg/ isn't a monolith, and we're a huge fan of Mises' work here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506776713 143446259,143454840,2017-09-30 13:05:17,"Tell me what's wrong with the cosmopolitan liberalism of people like Richard Cobden: >I see in the Free-trade principle that which shall act on the moral world as the principle of gravitation in the universe,—drawing men together, thrusting aside the antagonism of race, and creed, and language, and uniting us in the bonds of eternal peace. I have looked even farther. I have speculated, and probably dreamt, in the dim future—ay, a thousand years hence—I have speculated on what the effect of the triumph of this principle may be. I believe that the effect will be to change the face of the world, so as to introduce a system of government entirely distinct from that which now prevails. I believe that the desire and the motive for large and mighty empires; for gigantic armies and great navies—for those materials which are used for the destruction of life and the desolation of the rewards of labour—will die away; I believe that such things will cease to be necessary, or to be used, when man becomes one family, and freely exchanges the fruits of his labour with his brother man. I believe that, if we could be allowed to reappear on this sublunary scene, we should see, at a far distant period, the governing system of this world revert to something like the municipal system; and I believe that the speculative philosopher of a thousand years hence will date the greatest revolution that ever happened in the world’s history from the triumph of the principle which we have met here to advocate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506776717 143446259,143454851,2017-09-30 13:05:23,">>143454339 I feel like a lot of Libertarians had a blind eye for democracy in the early days until Hoppe came along.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506776723 143446259,143455230,2017-09-30 13:10:03,">>143454840 That whole quote was disgusting. Egalitarianism is delusional. I do NOT seek to create a new ""ideal"" man who lacks any sense of belonging to a larger community. As a Libertarian I accept man as he is. Egalitarianism is a revolt against nature.",,Anonymous,FFicon.png,oaqkeM8iirJvX1wok9c3TQ==,US,,1506777003 143446259,143455304,2017-09-30 13:10:46,">>143454840 So if I read this correctly he is arguing for a global government right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506777046 143446259,143455501,2017-09-30 13:12:53,">>143454840 I wouldn't say there's anything inherently wrong with it. It's just that the idea that free trade can erase all ethnic and cultural tensions is absolute bullshit. Free trade is magnificent in its ability to create peace between peoples, but those peoples would still be better off living independently with themselves, rather than mixing everyone into a single bland mess. Besides, there will always be people who won't accept liberty, and they should be isolated. A culturally conservative society does much more to maintain social stability than degenerate chaos. >>143454851 Remember the context as well. Mises grew up in the late nineteenth century, and his criticisms of the European empires and centralized monarchies are still worth reading. He grew up in a time when some kingdoms ruled over others and his proposal to fix this was democratic nation-states of people who ruled themselves, which sounds good in theory, and must have sounded good especially after the shitshow that was World War I. However, as Hoppe later explained, World War I was caused primarily by statist-nationalist ideas, not necessarily by monarchies themselves. Mises and Rothbard were both soft on democracy, as he said, but I'm sure both of them still understood that democracy wasn't really compatible with private property. Mises supported democracy because he believed that the ability to replace a leader with a new one when necessary would prevent civil wars from breaking out, which were more common in monarchies and dictatorships, because there was no way to replace the autocrat. Rothbard supported democracy because he thought voting libertarians into office was the only way to create a libertarian society. Neither of them truly believed in democracy (or in the almighty state, for that matter), they just believed it was the least worst option. Hoppe did strike the final nail into the coffin of democracy, though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506777173 143446259,143455521,2017-09-30 13:13:05,">>143455304 No, he's arguing for free trade and movement of labor. >>143455230 I don't see an egalitarian theme in that quote.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506777185 143446259,143455841,2017-09-30 13:16:38,">>143455521 It's quite clear he's talking about forgetting the things that make man unequal. Cosmopolitans are cryptically egalitarian without exception.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506777398 143446259,143456207,2017-09-30 13:20:41,,,Anonymous,capitalism.jpg,gS0Ra8W888nwgBs81otWyA==,US,,1506777641 143446259,143456685,2017-09-30 13:25:22,>>143456207,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,US,,1506777922 143446259,143456766,2017-09-30 13:26:03,">>143456207 Pt2",,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1506777963 143446259,143457452,2017-09-30 13:33:40,">>143456207 correlation =/= causation rather than capitalism, this is the result of a social democracy. people can't be ostracized and even if they are safety nets of sorts such as welfare and anti-discrimination laws are provided for them by the government which makes that ineffective. women and people of older age no longer need to rely on family to provide for them as the government serves that role now. this leads to the degradation of the family unit and ultimately society. there's no much needed respect, empathy, even some kind of cohesive connection between people since they no longer need to look at the prospects of their future. we are heading towards decivilization under democracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506778420 143446259,143457762,2017-09-30 13:37:11,">>143456207 The difference between capitalism and socialism is that all the shit on your collage is optional in capitalism while sucking ss cocks was mandatory.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1506778631 143446259,143457997,2017-09-30 13:39:46,">>143450132 Big brained nibbas get the ROCK.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506778786 143446259,143458137,2017-09-30 13:41:19,">>143450419 >Moldbug >Curtis Yarvin, paternal mischling when in doubt, call him out",,Anonymous,da juice.png,FZHrZhij4QKl3AayNDdvtg==,,,1506778879 143446259,143458524,2017-09-30 13:45:35,">>143456207 >everything goes to shit around 1965 I wonder why? Dig in deeper. The cultural revolution was implicitly, and sometimes explicitly anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, spearheaded by neo-Trotskyist shills.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506779135 143446259,143459085,2017-09-30 13:51:35,">>143448340 Hail Rand!",,Anonymous,,,LU,,1506779495 143446259,143460091,2017-09-30 14:02:16,,,Anonymous,JPEG_20170812_232131.jpg,exOhaNMkh/YWaZCdy0mxCA==,US,,1506780136 143446259,143460127,2017-09-30 14:02:40,,,Anonymous,1506454086215.jpg,oT+llVQqv+xG07CukqcX9Q==,,,1506780160 143446259,143460483,2017-09-30 14:07:00,,,Anonymous,Virgil.png,cMoQBZ3SMr1lFZRED71Gxw==,US,,1506780420 143446259,143460714,2017-09-30 14:09:39,,,Anonymous,1505331294123.png,13GT4DAU1XZfCZSfywoeSg==,,,1506780579 143446259,143460804,2017-09-30 14:10:37,">>143460714 dab on dem haters",,Anonymous,fuck_the_haters.jpg,5PkC92jZKA5+VViGiYFC0Q==,GB,,1506780637 143446259,143461065,2017-09-30 14:13:41,,,Anonymous,hoppe_0.jpg,l066R7o6T2FK7CQYbNDbVQ==,US,,1506780821 143446259,143461602,2017-09-30 14:20:21,,,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,US,,1506781221 143446259,143461959,2017-09-30 14:25:00,,,Anonymous,1492539566446.png,IOQ0iXRltoRmh2SoQfoHHg==,,,1506781500 143446259,143463687,2017-09-30 14:44:00,">>143461602 >>143461959 Disgusting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506782640 143446259,143463951,2017-09-30 14:46:52,">>143446259 Major difference between Libertarian left and Libertarian right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506782812 143446259,143464342,2017-09-30 14:50:50,">>143463951 >left degenerate (high time preference) >right low time preference Also Libertarian left is a bit of a meme because how can you be for liberty and on the left.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506783050 143446259,143464535,2017-09-30 14:52:48,">>143463687 Commie enabler spotted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506783168 143446259,143464789,2017-09-30 14:55:18,">>143464342 So Libertarian Right should just be Libertarian then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506783318 143446259,143464790,2017-09-30 14:55:19,">>143463951 Right Libertarianism is non-intervention; laissez faire Left Libertarianism is non-hierarchy; egalitarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506783319 143446259,143464957,2017-09-30 14:56:59,">>143464342 How is the left-right distinction related to time preference? I would say I have lower time preference than most people (I save most of my income and hardly buy anything) and this guy just called me a commie enabler. >>143464535",,Anonymous,,,,,1506783419 143446259,143465019,2017-09-30 14:57:35,">>143446259 Praise kek >>143463419",,Anonymous,1489420651490.jpg,0RarnUJ6K43qnlBgpmUkwg==,US,,1506783455 143446259,143465126,2017-09-30 14:58:44,">>143464790 Well I don't believe that all people are equal, but they do deserve to have equal rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506783524 143446259,143465175,2017-09-30 14:59:09,">>143464790 If that's the definition of ""Right Libertarianism"" then I would qualify as Right Libertarian. But because I'm an ""open border advocate"" and don't want to persecute Communists, I'm not consider a Right Libertarian in these threads.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506783549 143446259,143465627,2017-09-30 15:03:41,">>143465175 These threads aren't a monolith of ideas, some people here are edgy natcap/physical-removal types, some of us aren't, although almost everyone here opposes open borders.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506783821 143446259,143465685,2017-09-30 15:04:21,">>143465175 We use left Libertarian in two ways here, the first, being ancoms, and the second meaning you. You do abide by property rights and non aggression but you are a cultural leftist, a cultural relativist who wants Mass inclusion, which we find is implicitly egalitarian. My advice to you is to leave us alone and stay in one of the hundred Libertarian spaces that embrace your values. /lrg/ is the only place around for us and we want to keep it that way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506783861 143446259,143466569,2017-09-30 15:13:39,">>143464789 I guess so. Left Libertarians take liberty on a social level seriously and not on an economic one. The more radical even oppose voluntary hierarchy witch is not very liberty minded if you want to ban something voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506784419 143446259,143467013,2017-09-30 15:18:26,">>143464957 Time preference is certainly a tendency not an absolute but if we look at the political systems on the left like democracy or syndicalism we can see that those promote high time preference behavior among the people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506784706 143446259,143468009,2017-09-30 15:28:38,"Let me catalog a list of some web companies that have engaged in blatantly anti-consumer practices Google >spyware, datamining, manipulated search results Facebook >political censorship, datamining, political activism Youtube >demonetizing videos, SJW political campaigns, manipulated recommendations Twitter >censorship, shadowbanning/throttling, targeted harassment Microsoft >datamining, botnet, rewriting user agreements ex post facto Why haven't any of these companies gone out of business? Especially considering the very low start up and running cost for competitors It's time for libertarians to admit that the free market has a natural tendency towards monopoly.",,Anonymous,1493603790994.jpg,X+AmcXL69XFhOI50xCSY3g==,US,,1506785318 143446259,143468395,2017-09-30 15:32:45,">>143468009 >He thinks Google, Facebook, Twitter and Microsoft's monopoly is a result of free market conditions rather than corporatist collusion. M8 rlly?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506785565 143446259,143468681,2017-09-30 15:35:32,,,Anonymous,fashion.png,5f7yiVJ3vugE30m7xD8VNQ==,,,1506785732 143446259,143468808,2017-09-30 15:37:04,">>143468681 Both look shit, but damn can that negro play guitar.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506785824 143446259,143468951,2017-09-30 15:38:31,">>143468395 >corporatist collusion That's exactly what I'm saying These companies acquire a dominant position in the market, and muscle out all competitors. They have so much capital that no one can compete with them, any startups that try are bought out. It's almost become a meme at this point, that if your startup is extremely successful, you'll get the chance to sell to Google. Even worse, these companies are constantly combining to form larger, more centralized umbrella corporations. For example, Alphabet corp. They're even starting to branch out into things like product delivery services, car manufacturing, and other industries",,Anonymous,Alphabet stock price.png,uZvfWxu89VFeAF9Z2BxNqQ==,US,,1506785911 143446259,143469173,2017-09-30 15:40:27,">>143468951 Do you not know what corporatism is? I'll give you a hint: it's not capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506786027 143446259,143469240,2017-09-30 15:41:16,">>143468808 Do you think such musicians would exist in racially homogenous, culturally ""conservative"" Hoppean covenant communities?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506786076 143446259,143469365,2017-09-30 15:42:27,">>143469173 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osSMJRyxG0k That's what I'm saying, capitalism needs regulation to promote competition",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506786147 143446259,143469463,2017-09-30 15:43:24,">>143469240 It might not exist in a conservative covenant, but it would exist in a liberal one and the conservatives could import the music from there. Isn't free trade grand?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506786204 143446259,143469898,2017-09-30 15:47:52,">>143469365 Capitalism has regulation now you brainlet. Regulation has put them in those monopoly positions. Rlly makes u think when those companies lobby for more regulations",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506786472 143446259,143469945,2017-09-30 15:48:20,"How does it feel knowing that you can't have capitalism without a state? Real libertarians are mutualists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506786500 143446259,143470222,2017-09-30 15:51:08,">>143469898 you can't just say that it's the regulation's fault that everything is like this. That's a cop out, it's like some religious person waving their hand and saying that god wills it Pic related, more evidence of capitalism at work",,Anonymous,1498723572392.png,CeidbwusI0dFnAojbc3k9Q==,US,,1506786668 143446259,143470233,2017-09-30 15:51:16,">>143469945 You can't have capitalism with a state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506786676 143446259,143470415,2017-09-30 15:52:53,">>143470233 Why not? >>143469945 Why don't mutualist organizations out-compete capitalist firms as is?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506786773 143446259,143470504,2017-09-30 15:53:43,">>143470222 So you want a corporatist system? Why not go for a fully planned economy? Why not end all traces of capitalism? Tell me in depth your position please.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506786823 143446259,143470585,2017-09-30 15:54:32,">>143470233 you don't know what capitalism is. take a good think about absentee ownership >>143470415 i don't think you know what mutualism is ""mutualism"" isn't a thing that a business can do mutualism is an anarchist ideology",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506786872 143446259,143470653,2017-09-30 15:55:08,">>143470222 You can't just say it's capitalism's fault that everything is like this. That's a cop out, like some libertarian waving their hand and saying regulation did it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506786908 143446259,143470797,2017-09-30 15:56:30,Am I a bad Libertarian if I think that the death penalty should be extended to human traffickers?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506786990 143446259,143471758,2017-09-30 16:06:48,">>143468009 >Why haven't any of these companies gone out of business? Government won't let them. http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/2010/02/googles_billion.php",,Anonymous,,,,,1506787608 143446259,143472420,2017-09-30 16:14:24,">>143446259 Fuck Off",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506788064 143446259,143473636,2017-09-30 16:27:35,,,Anonymous,1501472157900.jpg,wBDZcie6rQqt/GNJnTr7lQ==,,,1506788855 143446259,143474063,2017-09-30 16:32:07,">>143472420 Prinášaš hanbu svojej otčine, ty všivavé hovno. Sebaurčenie je jedným z hlavných pilierov nášho hrdého národa, a ty ho tu znevažuješ.",,Anonymous,vico.png,Vmijfw90PKaOQurQmcpAvw==,SK,,1506789127 143446259,143475113,2017-09-30 16:43:01,">>143468681 Both are fairly attractive. But then again I don't correlate fashion with ideology that well. Anyone can wear a suit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506789781 143446259,143475608,2017-09-30 16:48:40,">>143473636 throw that 88 out my friend, unless were talking voluntary natsoc?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506790120 143446259,143475810,2017-09-30 16:51:02,">>143475608 888 Hans-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,1492507944453.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,,,1506790262 143446259,143476172,2017-09-30 16:55:04,">>143446259 >hurr durr capitalists dindu nuffin",,Anonymous,based capitalism.jpg,ZcGQdx0Zoo1j2ZZM+LxcUg==,US,,1506790504 143446259,143476668,2017-09-30 17:00:40,">>143476172 ur jus jelous that u dont hav child slaves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506790840 143446259,143477172,2017-09-30 17:06:08,">>143476172 Children have been laboring since the beginning of time. Only capitalism has produced the wealth that has recently enabled children to go to school for years without having to get a job.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506791168 143446259,143477361,2017-09-30 17:08:02,">>143476172 Communism is these same children, but two of them ate the third because of starvation.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1506791282 143446259,143477363,2017-09-30 17:08:03,"I need /lrg/ wallpapers, does anyone have some? Or where I could find some?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506791283 143446259,143477424,2017-09-30 17:08:41,">>143477363 here, plus the OP image",,Anonymous,lrg flag WIP.png,/ImPxVjJVlCrM3lJyqLJjA==,SK,,1506791321 143446259,143477976,2017-09-30 17:14:08,>>143477363,,Anonymous,RR (1).png,efKiEmenD4v9rgs2OukcGg==,,,1506791648 143488635,143488635,2017-09-30 19:13:33,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,tu_nu_cede_malis_sed_contra_audentior_ito_small.png,coO0nd0Z/VDxw9cMGy5w5g==,GB,,1506798813 143488635,143488729,2017-09-30 19:14:35,,,Anonymous,hoppe flagbearer.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,GB,,1506798875 143488635,143489259,2017-09-30 19:20:47,,,Anonymous,Communist Filth.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1506799247 143488635,143489290,2017-09-30 19:21:05,,,Anonymous,Open Borders.png,vg9kKDFzZtzubZYzrE7MQA==,,,1506799265 143488635,143489314,2017-09-30 19:21:23,,,Anonymous,What is it.png,88R2i0cnyIVSx7T41M5IAg==,,,1506799283 143488635,143489353,2017-09-30 19:21:49,,,Anonymous,What's your problem.png,jHBTV9Khr6Tkw77yLF+CHw==,,,1506799309 143488635,143489417,2017-09-30 19:22:38,,,Anonymous,lrg based enlightened.jpg,7AxKvW1wBlPF1oUxx32cJw==,GB,,1506799358 143488635,143489447,2017-09-30 19:23:01,,,Anonymous,download (2).jpg,ZndUZoE4hXZcG6xWyyiABw==,US,,1506799381 143488635,143489475,2017-09-30 19:23:13,,,Anonymous,What we really are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1506799393 143488635,143489561,2017-09-30 19:24:09,,,Anonymous,Open Borders 2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1506799449 143488635,143489594,2017-09-30 19:24:29,,,Anonymous,The Communist Threat.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1506799469 143488635,143489631,2017-09-30 19:24:53,,,Anonymous,8 Levels of Control.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1506799493 143488635,143489663,2017-09-30 19:25:18,,,Anonymous,Right Wing Populism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1506799518 143488635,143489761,2017-09-30 19:26:37,,,Anonymous,Communist America.png,VvglK2w68vebSlCDogmyHQ==,,,1506799597 143488635,143489831,2017-09-30 19:27:32,,,Anonymous,Explanation.png,MOtN/WseUKEC3g27W2ZP8A==,,,1506799652 143488635,143489886,2017-09-30 19:28:09,,,Anonymous,Means To Liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1506799689 143488635,143490006,2017-09-30 19:29:37,,,Anonymous,Waco Seige.png,dEapXAOEYwVjqEWTW5vyxg==,,,1506799777 143488635,143490102,2017-09-30 19:30:44,,,Anonymous,They Have to be Removed.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,,,1506799844 143488635,143490174,2017-09-30 19:31:26,">>143490006 >>143490102 If anyone has more images like this that'd be appreciated.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506799886 143488635,143490216,2017-09-30 19:31:51,,,Anonymous,nu v tru pol.png,elZ2/QXq1o51Xq0eeB1rAg==,,,1506799911 143488635,143490347,2017-09-30 19:33:13,,,Anonymous,Equality.jpg,RGetp9fMgQK1sDndguegtg==,,,1506799993 143488635,143490374,2017-09-30 19:33:35,,,Anonymous,Democracy.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,,,1506800015 143488635,143490404,2017-09-30 19:33:56,,,Anonymous,Democracy Quote.jpg,J0O9phpNEONchjuRLQIS7w==,,,1506800036 143488635,143490447,2017-09-30 19:34:18,,,Anonymous,Socialist Quote.jpg,JAxwYC7ARKlyd1s4OfFYCw==,,,1506800058 143488635,143490467,2017-09-30 19:34:33,>>143490174,,Anonymous,1504132663961.png,T8Fu9b39NuW1a2bnJPzpKw==,US,,1506800073 143488635,143490510,2017-09-30 19:35:05,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy is Authoritarian.png,m+vq+HJQ/+rO+jmc2VaEkA==,,,1506800105 143488635,143490658,2017-09-30 19:36:52,,,Anonymous,absolutely_treaded.png,yp/6grI6jZPtJVzq6PmGlw==,US,,1506800212 143488635,143490698,2017-09-30 19:37:17,"Just want to say OP, there's some good stuff in this thread. Curious on your thoughts about McGinnes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506800237 143488635,143490710,2017-09-30 19:37:29,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy is Authoritarian 2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1506800249 143488635,143490820,2017-09-30 19:38:51,">>143489475 the colors should be reversed for optics. Also does anyone have any economic redpills? I feel like it's very hard to convince people to support libertarianism if they can't see how government involvement has failed them and they as hell aren't willing to educate themselves.",,Anonymous,whatcommiesandnatsocswant.webm,bXs6PKYwSXgT7r3tG64tVQ==,US,,1506800331 143488635,143490833,2017-09-30 19:38:56,"Hey gentlemen. Here to get feedback on an idea I've been kicking around. /ncg/ - National Capitalism General Like National Socialism, without the socialism label, swastika baggage, and dictatorship. Capitalism, but with Nationalism to prevent (((globalism))). Like Libertarianism, without the faggots, drugs, and mass migration. Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. Share links, PDFs, reading, videos, and propaganda. > SMASH MARXISM! > PURGE DEGENERACY! > DISMANTLE (((INTERNATIONAL BANKING)))! What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of profits for globalists. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else.",,Anonymous,9da5a2e8dbadc6f27e3d4d390579e4d9.jpg,3Y/JRPtb+Q3KK4tpHhXA2g==,US,,1506800336 143488635,143490864,2017-09-30 19:39:21,">>143490698 McInnes is alright. Another Canuck Conservative. Not really much to say otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506800361 143488635,143491071,2017-09-30 19:41:43,">>143490833 Interesting idea, how does it differ from Right Libertarianism, if there is a difference.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506800503 143488635,143491115,2017-09-30 19:42:24,">>143490833 This is basically a fusion of National Socialist views on race and Libertarian Right views on economics, and American nationalism. It is my opinion that Natsocs are only Natsocs for the race question, and Right Libertarians are only Libertarians to avoid the Nazi label and dictatorship. POLITICAL POSITION https://www.nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ A good briefing that fails to mention race. Nations cannot be multiracial. >What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Naturalization Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been fixed. The Black birthrate is already below replacement, and the Hispanic birthrate is plummeting. Shut borders, increase birthrate, problem solved nonviolently. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html Have a lot more but don't want to shit up the thread. Will post if I see interest.",,Anonymous,4600422e6fda182c6b429aad2585fc30.jpg,nSocgTe7EcBEQebKwRYWxQ==,US,,1506800544 143488635,143491192,2017-09-30 19:43:11,">>143490833 I wouldn't shy away from race realism or nationalism, but don't just be a spinoff of NatSoc. Have your own message. I'd be willing to help you out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506800591 143488635,143491398,2017-09-30 19:45:31,">>143491192 And by that I mean don't just be a copy paste of /nsg/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506800731 143488635,143491540,2017-09-30 19:47:06,">>143488635 The ideal federal revenue system is through tariffs and the ideal state revenue system is through sales tax. PROVE. ME. WRONG. (Pro-tip: You fucking can't)",,Anonymous,Taxes.png,RBjpfhXZDNwxBC1msqWWsQ==,US,,1506800826 143488635,143491544,2017-09-30 19:47:10,">>143490833 What is the NatCap view on international trade? And in terms of >the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. how would you hope to deal with these issues? Libertarians don't want a state with social regulations as well. How is the state going to help workers? This smells like natsoc wrapped in different packaging to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506800830 143488635,143491558,2017-09-30 19:47:23,>>143491540,,Anonymous,State tax.png,AWXFZlatR3PX04YW5LcwUg==,US,,1506800843 143488635,143491738,2017-09-30 19:49:27,,,Anonymous,agorism in a nutshell.jpg,xv8dQgp55R/ZzolAYPZkgA==,,,1506800967 143488635,143491748,2017-09-30 19:49:30,">>143489761 >communism in impoverished Russia would look the same in a world superpower",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506800970 143488635,143491766,2017-09-30 19:49:43,">>143491071 >Don’t we already have National Capitalism right now? No, our current system is one of Globalism. International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders. National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. The nation works to out compete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal. >But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and creating work for all citizens regardless of demand purely to increase productivity. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’ If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm Join a terrible discord here if interested: y8kk5p Basically this is an effort to bring together Right Libertarians and Natsocs, because Natsocs are not Socialists in the Libertarian sense, and Right Libertarians are not Egalitarians in the way Natsocs view them. Neither side disagrees on policy as much as they think, they disagree on word definitions. >>143491192 The copypaste of NSG is to make the point that you can discuss everything that the Natsocs discuss without the swastika baggage. Copypasting is purely done to foster discussion of aesthetics.",,Anonymous,1502689469518.jpg,FxnXSr6paflPFkRwXWyUGw==,US,,1506800983 143488635,143491863,2017-09-30 19:50:54,">>143491748 Why wouldn't it? Soviet Russia was considered a superpower. Communism rapes countries regardless of stature.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506801054 143488635,143492097,2017-09-30 19:53:33,>>143491863,,Anonymous,Reminder.jpg,cpfo4W+OnXz9KeMkg3rEWQ==,,,1506801213 143488635,143492201,2017-09-30 19:54:33,">>143492097 >inb4 ""Not Real Communism""",,Anonymous,10 Planks and the USSR.png,5pfkKhy/BdPKgXwhi5CB0A==,,,1506801273 143488635,143492225,2017-09-30 19:54:45,">>143491115 I'm down for promoting this message, are you involved in discord? we could work on it there and I'd be glad to help you get this thing started.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506801285 143488635,143492605,2017-09-30 19:59:09,">>143491863 >Communism rapes countries regardless of stature Somewhat true but it alway's rebuilds itself. >inb4 cherry picked images",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506801549 143488635,143492608,2017-09-30 19:59:12,">>143492225 Yee bud >Join a terrible discord here if interested: y8kk5p A huge part of this is taking back the traditional American aesthetic from subversive forces.",,Anonymous,1503108958216.jpg,ntCJiJ9QOu/KmI3Ao4Ajow==,US,,1506801552 143488635,143492817,2017-09-30 20:01:34,">>143490833 Never liked the idea of National Capitalism. To much of its philosophy is ambiguous. Also I dont like associating with anything that has ""national"" in the forefront. Im a patriot first. I love my home and people without question but to often does ""national"" become a support of goverment. I dont like globalism so why would i support the stepping stone towards it. ie a centralized nation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506801694 143488635,143493056,2017-09-30 20:04:38,">>143492605 Examples of formerly communist nations rebuilding themselves?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506801878 143488635,143493447,2017-09-30 20:09:05,">>143492097 The death toll is actually 149,469,610 http://www.scottmanning.com/content/communist-body-count/",,Anonymous,Genderconfused.png,pHs4gx//wtiSy7bpmou+pQ==,CA,,1506802145 143488635,143493568,2017-09-30 20:10:27,"Let le triggering commence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WamKD5agoVE",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506802227 143488635,143495392,2017-09-30 20:32:32,"Need some educating on Libertarianism lads, I've got a few questions, answer them at will and point me to subsets of Libertarianism that solve these issues if you want >how compatible is libertarianism really with nationalism and national culture? Wouldn't laissez faire mean there's no reason for businesses to not just import cheap foreign labour in the zillions diluting culture, knock down historic landmarks if its figured out a more profitable venture can be built there, and generally just erode national culture? >simliar to above, won't laissez faire level old comfy towns as soon as it's decided it's more profitable to have condos there? Is this acknowledged by Libertarians most old and traditional conservative things will get destroyed if they're not profitable at some point, yet are desirable for being aesthetic or historical? >a celeb working on adverts for a clothes company is filmed saying he believes women are inferior to men. Feminists get mad and start a campaign against the clothes company to have the celeb fired. Should a libertarian criticise the feminists for trying to organise a campaign to effectivel censor the celeb, or acknowledge the feminists have the freedom to express their opinion and try and encourage others to share that opinion with a campaign. If the latter, wouldn't this just lead to effective censorship (as a result of companies protecting their profits), which is what's happening in real life, and why would a Libertarian support that? >How would Libertarianism deal with national debt? Do federal reserves go against libertarianism? >does Libertarianism call for any kind of globalism? Is the current kind of globalism going on libertarian in any way, or is it a corruption of libertarianism? Is globalism rejected or accepted by subsets of libertarianism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506803552 143488635,143496546,2017-09-30 20:46:21,">>143495392 Should a libertarian criticise the feminists for trying to organise a campaign to effectivel censor the celeb Clearly. That's the whole point of a self regulating system. Feminists or some other lunatics spout some nonsense they deserve to be ridiculed, mocked and proven wrong. Freedom of speech/criticism keeps a society informed. People won't become red pilled if we stay silent. does Libertarianism call for any kind of globalism? Generally no but there are faux libertarians who believe in open boarders (but protecting your house from invaders) which is incredibly hypocritical since your country is your home as well as your private property you have the right to say you don't want immigrants on the public property you pay taxes for. Most libertarians believe in a proper boarder and limited immigration.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506804381 143488635,143498082,2017-09-30 21:05:37,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1506805537 143488635,143498274,2017-09-30 21:07:46,">>143496551 >>143496551 >>143496551 why dont ancaps, white nationalist, pagans, reactionaries, euromuslims, jihadis, black nationalists and other larpers who want their own state follow the Liechtenstein route? Their constitution lets any commune seccede by a simple majority vote, and the entire country only has 12 communes, teh smallest of which has only 424 people. If you get 425 people to move there and vote for seccession, you get a state >>Art. 4 >1) [...] >2) Individual communes have the right to secede from the State. A decision to initiate the secession procedure shall be taken by a majority of the citizens residing there who are entitled to vote. Secession shall be regulated by a law or, as the case may be, a treaty. In the latter event, a second ballot shall be held in the commune after the negotations have been completed. http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/research/liechtenstein-constitution.pdf https://www.sapling.com/8253400/receive-liechtenstein-citizenship https://www.gonomad.com/2208-liechtenstein-a-friendly-little-country-with-lots-to-offer",,Anonymous,1506818784818.png,Eure2vRdKdwQZksHVjNTzA==,,,1506805666 143488635,143499157,2017-09-30 21:18:05,"Hello I have got a question If all people are imbued with certain inalienable rights and no one may agress against ones property (be it an object or ones very self) how would one go about protecting these rights, act in self-defence and seek retribution against someone who is significantly more powerful and influential than one self under an anarchistic system?",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1506806285 143488635,143499406,2017-09-30 21:21:13,">>143499157 Hire a private security company or death squad.",,Anonymous,McNuke.png,7qoBM8gYxoLjeI+1HKBNdw==,,,1506806473 143488635,143499617,2017-09-30 21:23:56,,,Anonymous,1486775496029.png,1zksC+DiOZCzK0movLFyoQ==,US,,1506806636 143488635,143499787,2017-09-30 21:26:02,">>143499406 A very wealthy man could hire himself an army to protect himself, he could be a client of the security company as well and people might not be able to afford these services Of what value are your rights if they can't be protected?",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1506806762 143488635,143499855,2017-09-30 21:27:06,">>143488635 How do the open the borders and stop these fucking racists fellow libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506806826 143488635,143499938,2017-09-30 21:28:07,">>143499617 Where did you get my picture?!??!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506806887 143488635,143500118,2017-09-30 21:30:32,">>143499938 dont play with my heart, you got proofs thats your nibba?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506807032 143488635,143500457,2017-09-30 21:34:36,">>143499787 >>143499157 >people will stop doing business with him because he's dangerous >no human rights insurer will sell him a policy >your human rights/aggression insurance will protect you and try to neutralize him because he's costing them money and implicitly threatening their other customers >he has to be REALLY rich to hire his own militia it's super dangerous work and mercenaries will also be unable to get human rights insurance Basically it's a problem of critical mass. If the free society gets large enough, eventually it will become fault tolerant in the same way that bitcoin is fault tolerant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506807276 143488635,143501933,2017-09-30 21:51:52,">>143500457 That makes sense I can apply similar answers to any branches of my initial question so that's about it",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1506808312 143488635,143503407,2017-09-30 22:09:24,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1506809364 143569093,143569093,2017-10-01 13:12:58,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,US,,1506863578 143569093,143569230,2017-10-01 13:14:32,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1506863672 143569093,143569236,2017-10-01 13:14:34,Bump.,,Anonymous,1506790098450.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,US,,1506863674 143569093,143569270,2017-10-01 13:14:51,,,Anonymous,PhoneCreated9-20.jpg,fUjLEwBtJMKrLAn6oF2NYA==,US,,1506863691 143569093,143569287,2017-10-01 13:15:04,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1506863704 143569093,143569309,2017-10-01 13:15:19,"I don't believe in democracy. I believe in Thul the ancient city, and raising Thul. And I think Trump is the candidate that is going to raise Thul. And Atlantis. I believe in global cooling, cooling the earth. The sea levels lowering, and I believe in land raising from the bottom of the ocean, with ancient ruins on them. Like the ruins of Thul. And I think Trump is going to accomplish all of that. He's going to prove that UFOs exist. Our government has known about them for a long time. They've known that the UFOs are out there and that they're trying to communicate with us. And that they have secrets about the origins of human consciousness. Are you familiar with the philosopher Friedrich Schelling? Have you read the critical historical introduction to the philosophy of mythology? Schelling was a German idealist philosopher. He was roommates with Holderland and with Hegler and talks about all of this. He predicted it a long time ago. Trump is going to make German idealism real, he's gonna complete the system. Kant couldn't complete the system of German idealism. Trump is going to compete the system, he's going to derive, and complete the system. It terrifies me. How can we compete the system of German idealism? Hegler couldn't do it, Schelling couldn't do it, Victor couldn't do it, Rhinegold couldn't do it, Maimon couldn't do it. No one can complete the system of German idealism. German idealism, first critique published in 1731. Trump is a Contien. He's a German idealist. I just want everyone to know, everyone needs to be aware, that the system of German idealism is about to be complete. We don't need democracy!",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506863719 143569093,143569536,2017-10-01 13:17:33,>>143569309,,Anonymous,RR (7).png,0XnBpiRDCyF0PbWfIPjakQ==,US,,1506863853 143569093,143569588,2017-10-01 13:18:12,,,Anonymous,mcv (4).png,XNeppskUUmSDNCdyyq4tSA==,US,,1506863892 143569093,143569637,2017-10-01 13:18:40,,,Anonymous,RR (1).png,efKiEmenD4v9rgs2OukcGg==,US,,1506863920 143569093,143569805,2017-10-01 13:20:28,sage goes in all fields,,Anonymous,1505626142041.png,tu1GtA5o34Xyp/BxSsA4kw==,US,,1506864028 143569093,143570015,2017-10-01 13:22:40,>>143569805,,Anonymous,1505949901073.png,wlScB4ovv11fYuDvWC8l7g==,US,,1506864160 143569093,143570242,2017-10-01 13:25:09,,,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,US,,1506864309 143569093,143570344,2017-10-01 13:26:12,,,Anonymous,1491407014760.jpg,GlEe8arP6SbraxSCyM94wg==,US,,1506864372 143569093,143570782,2017-10-01 13:31:01,,,Anonymous,C6GfhvVUwAECmr1.jpg,zW+d9XwOdpST2016gzeDDQ==,US,,1506864661 143901427,143901427,2017-10-03 16:04:49,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary ((((David Friedman)))) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1500656679484.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,,,1507046689 143901427,143901560,2017-10-03 16:05:48,>>143901427,,Anonymous,1497277523281.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1507046748 143901427,143901629,2017-10-03 16:06:22,">>143901427 Bump",,Anonymous,1499207112998.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1507046782 143901427,143901725,2017-10-03 16:07:08,bump,,Anonymous,c3f45d477b9d75ea6bf746ce1769d0fe.jpg,icxJLCPRAy21ZMWuZyWCBg==,,,1507046828 143901427,143901895,2017-10-03 16:08:31,,,Anonymous,Open Borders.png,vg9kKDFzZtzubZYzrE7MQA==,,,1507046911 143901427,143901947,2017-10-03 16:09:03,,,Anonymous,Open Borders 2.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1507046943 143901427,143902001,2017-10-03 16:09:27,,,Anonymous,8 Levels of Control.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1507046967 143901427,143902107,2017-10-03 16:10:18,,,Anonymous,Right Wing Populism.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1507047018 143901427,143902187,2017-10-03 16:10:51,,,Anonymous,Means To Liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1507047051 143901427,143902216,2017-10-03 16:11:05,This is common in libertarian socities,,Anonymous,1507040411836[1].jpg,HRDn+Fnlj3Za3Xt3pe5bFg==,,,1507047065 143901427,143902511,2017-10-03 16:13:23,,,Anonymous,17201124_1277639125637737_2655593090091587264_n.jpg,QCjbdZoXGWsvaJz7avbztg==,,,1507047203 143901427,143902988,2017-10-03 16:17:37,>>143902511,,Anonymous,Explanation.png,MOtN/WseUKEC3g27W2ZP8A==,,,1507047457 143901427,143903298,2017-10-03 16:19:57,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy is Authoritarian.png,m+vq+HJQ/+rO+jmc2VaEkA==,,,1507047597 143901427,143903538,2017-10-03 16:21:52,,,Anonymous,1491515240192.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,US,,1507047712 143901427,143903555,2017-10-03 16:22:00,A Libertarian Society rejects Degeneracy.,,Anonymous,Degeneracy is Authoritarian 2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1507047720 143901427,143904509,2017-10-03 16:29:14,,,Anonymous,Found.png,T8Fu9b39NuW1a2bnJPzpKw==,,,1507048154 143901427,143904637,2017-10-03 16:30:11,,,Anonymous,They Have to be Removed.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,,,1507048211 143901427,143904785,2017-10-03 16:31:21,,,Anonymous,Waco Seige.png,dEapXAOEYwVjqEWTW5vyxg==,,,1507048281 143901427,143904857,2017-10-03 16:31:56,">>143904785 Any more like these would be appreciated.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507048316 144020197,144020197,2017-10-04 12:19:46,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary ((((David Friedman)))) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,3OddQwdF_400x400.jpg,v4auWyMrs0rUk8bbDRvWtQ==,,,1507119586 144020197,144020262,2017-10-04 12:20:14,,,Anonymous,21993044_523576424662833_1460286766256548818_o.jpg,K7uGAw8nHCUgasQG8AXJXg==,,,1507119614 144020197,144020395,2017-10-04 12:21:26,,,Anonymous,1500656870100.png,al+7MIsDMwLL/s3dnc9UYQ==,,,1507119686 144020197,144020432,2017-10-04 12:21:45,,,Anonymous,wCIpgNA.jpg,7HU8QWOp/+CHcPyJHni3Jw==,,,1507119705 144020197,144020476,2017-10-04 12:22:08,,,Anonymous,1497277523281.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1507119728 144020197,144020537,2017-10-04 12:22:44,,,Anonymous,1505199956390.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,,,1507119764 144020197,144020575,2017-10-04 12:23:03,,,Anonymous,1506974172266.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1507119783 144020197,144020603,2017-10-04 12:23:24,,,Anonymous,1499207112998.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1507119804 144040254,144040254,2017-10-04 15:29:01,"ITT we discuss: Different libertarian/anarcho-capitalist philosophers. Free market economics. Why Libertarianism does not mean open borders, immigration and cultural degeneration. Popular ancap/libertarian youtubers. Examples in history of libertarian states. How to fix almost every current libertarian party. For a reading list: http://i.imgur.com/BanJKis.jpg For some good videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOBD6v8g1F4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8S3geFZSpM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4CcannofnY&list=PL4D57CD110446F6C6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg",/lrg/- Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1493343210638.jpg,4md3UWYHLVVJgHZX8UOZfw==,,,1507130941 144040254,144040524,2017-10-04 15:31:02,Bump,,Anonymous,c3f45d477b9d75ea6bf746ce1769d0fe.jpg,icxJLCPRAy21ZMWuZyWCBg==,,,1507131062 144040254,144040738,2017-10-04 15:32:55,">https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=nOBD6v8g1F4 >https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=g8S3geFZSpM >https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=S4CcannofnY >https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=ZJ5zOEkD2Lg HOOK IT UP OR DONT POST AT ALL",,Anonymous,,,,,1507131175 144040254,144041001,2017-10-04 15:35:30,Bamp,,Anonymous,jyOJ6XV.png,j9fyi05tZPASBY6+3hdqjw==,,,1507131330 144040254,144042020,2017-10-04 15:44:00,,,Anonymous,DtNp98WTM85UA0AMlaWkcw_IQSpkwu9ibKKCFlwa5gg.jpg,mFV+RSqv38rCh7W9jUfLuA==,,,1507131840 144157563,144157563,2017-10-05 12:48:58,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNEs: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1501364746871.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1507207738 144157563,144157889,2017-10-05 12:52:20,,,Anonymous,Gary-Johnsonx-large.jpg,NP3yBmnch+YP4cUvYwHyBw==,FI,,1507207940 144157563,144158600,2017-10-05 12:59:36,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCYWqw-MeCw,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507208376 144157563,144159256,2017-10-05 13:06:39,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507208799 144157563,144160325,2017-10-05 13:17:22,Bump.,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1507209442 144157563,144160769,2017-10-05 13:21:38,">>144157563 I feel bad the thread is getting slid while I'm actively looking through the OP links.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507209698 144157563,144161084,2017-10-05 13:24:47,">>144160769 This.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1507209887 144157563,144161747,2017-10-05 13:31:09,Last bump,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1507210269 144157563,144163479,2017-10-05 13:47:11,Freedom bump,,TPM,1492855701192.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,,,1507211231 144157563,144163732,2017-10-05 13:49:26,"who wants some of my memes? got 2 https://youtu.be/zc48cJWJxQs",,TPM,You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Liberty.jpg,8YssLLfN+SCgyLYrS+s15g==,,,1507211366 144157563,144163854,2017-10-05 13:50:40,"pls listen to my Hoppe wave https://youtu.be/O0UfWdpvqv0",,TPM,Emergency pino.jpg,K2KypfpznT/2gnLq7akLEw==,,,1507211440 144157563,144164544,2017-10-05 13:57:05,">>144163854 A little strange, but it's good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507211825 144157563,144164670,2017-10-05 13:58:15,"Taxation is theft Utilitarianism is a cancerous assertion of superiority The State is the most corrupt organization in existence Gas the degenerates, heli war now",,Anonymous,NubeTIWh.jpg,KQvxdWLU8eDnb6JEPSTTLw==,,,1507211895 144157563,144164808,2017-10-05 13:59:27,">>144164544 thanks anon, i am not skilled like others, but vaping some simple songs is easy enough",,TPM,,,,,1507211967 144157563,144164828,2017-10-05 13:59:34,fuck nazis and commies,,Anonymous,,,,,1507211974 144157563,144165068,2017-10-05 14:01:46,,,Anonymous,libertarianism.png,7OgOhKK0xSS1wEW8rWHs6w==,,,1507212106 144157563,144165297,2017-10-05 14:03:47,Saw a guy wearing a gadsden flag on his rucksack today. It really warms the scales.,,Anonymous,1500084403739.png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,GB,,1507212227 144157563,144165524,2017-10-05 14:05:56,">>144165068 >@Libertarianism",,Anonymous,thefuture.jpg,DfQ7czZdI29GflNriIwFyQ==,,,1507212356 144157563,144165549,2017-10-05 14:06:11,>>144164828,,Anonymous,1505602098777.jpg,fcSoHbEBQ8MxLjaG2rgkag==,US,,1507212371 144157563,144165636,2017-10-05 14:07:03,">>144165549 >white genocide isnt real",,Anonymous,white-genocide-proofs.jpg,ElzM2ZL+8vlP1VUUIBYISQ==,,,1507212423 144157563,144165643,2017-10-05 14:07:07,">>144157563 It's been so fucking long last time I checked this general",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1507212427 144157563,144165841,2017-10-05 14:08:59,">>144165636 $",,Anonymous,1505011320722.jpg,+lxcwyj9LwIzKJA/azYm+Q==,US,,1507212539 144157563,144166008,2017-10-05 14:10:25,>>144165841,,Anonymous,white-genocide-alcohol-drugs.png,TZoNplBQXIW1DNy7dKwIXg==,,,1507212625 144157563,144166355,2017-10-05 14:13:34,"quit fighting you idiots, we can rip our heads off AFTER the zog is dead",,TPM,CommiesRthieves.jpg,65OXxrD1l3bJnGhvqFuLig==,,,1507212814 144157563,144166517,2017-10-05 14:14:43,">>144165549 okay go fuck a child sex slave",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1507212883 144157563,144166692,2017-10-05 14:16:16,">>144165549 fuck you too m8, the jews ARE killing white in subversive ways. you don't have to be a nazi to see that",,TPM,1492855755661.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1507212976 144157563,144166849,2017-10-05 14:17:35,">>144165643 same as always, leftypol d&cing us from nazis",,TPM,,,,,1507213055 144157563,144166881,2017-10-05 14:17:53,>>144165068,,Anonymous,1uooh0.jpg,jWyjYvi31DllANObLuriWQ==,,,1507213073 144157563,144167046,2017-10-05 14:19:32,">>144166881 tfw when the lib party welcomes isis harder than dems",,TPM,1492693792126.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1507213172 144157563,144167569,2017-10-05 14:24:09,">>144167046 We must destroy them. They are a greater threat to liberty than any of our conventional enemies.",,Anonymous,Shillbertarianism.png,MnojSHWMnp+jC5PlN9C9SQ==,,,1507213449 144157563,144167776,2017-10-05 14:25:58,">>144167569 idk, the corporate dems and the neocons are pretty shit too, lets just throw em ALL off our copters. to be safe",,TPM,1504558712076.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1507213558 144157563,144167787,2017-10-05 14:26:04,"Rothbard understood the absurd economics of immigration laws: >The loss to everyone as consumers from shackling the inter-regional division of labor and the efficient location of production, should not be overlooked in considering the effects of immigration barriers. The reductio ad absurdum, though not quite as devastating as in the case of the tariff, is also relevant here. >As Cooley and Poirot point out: If it is sound to erect a barrier along our national boundary lines, against those who see greater opportunities here than in their native land, why should we not erect similar barriers between states and localities within our nation? Why should a low-paid worker be allowed to migrate from a failing buggy shop in Massachusetts to the expanding automobile shops in Detroit. He would compete with native Detroiters for food and clothing and housing. He might be willing to work for less than the prevailing wage in Detroit, “upsetting the labor market” there. Anyhow, he was a native of Massachusetts, and therefore that state should bear the full “responsibility for his welfare.” Those are matters we might ponder, but our honest answer to all of them is reflected in our actions. We’d rather ride in automobiles than in buggies. It would be foolish to try to buy an automobile or anything else on the free market, and at the same time deny any individual an opportunity to help produce those things we want. >The advocate of immigration laws who fears a reduction in his standard of living is actually misdirecting his fire. Implicitly, he believes that his geographic area now exceeds its optimum population point. What he really fears, therefore, is not so much immigration as any population growth. To be consistent, therefore, he would have to advocate compulsory birth control, to slow down the rate of population growth desired by individual parents.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507213564 144157563,144168028,2017-10-05 14:28:08,">>144167569 >when the 30 year old virgin refuses to let go of his snake flag despite having no idea what it represents",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507213688 144157563,144168144,2017-10-05 14:29:15,">people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. haha get real faggot that shit has to be enforced. Enjoy your 2 yr old orgy parties you clueless LARP.",,Anonymous,1506986402113.gif,HGG2tS311jJ29MxtunCQvg==,,,1507213755 144157563,144168270,2017-10-05 14:30:18,">>144167776 Agreed.",,Anonymous,Neoconservatism.png,UYVqQn825t6FDpRLi7MKEg==,,,1507213818 144157563,144168306,2017-10-05 14:30:38,">>144168028 >we can live in freedom when we let live those that advocate for its death",,TPM,1495300805249.jpg,AiNOwdl2xEM1almb7MlI3A==,,,1507213838 144157563,144168500,2017-10-05 14:32:27,"Anarcho-Capitalism (although not too diffetent from regular, Judeo-capitalism) is literally slavery. Corporations will pay goons to round people up and send them to work in their factories and mines and whatever else they need to supply their private armies to fight other corporations for control (like gangs).",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1499561223623.jpg,GTjW3jgsCeKL/butLv9TcA==,,,1507213947 144157563,144168538,2017-10-05 14:32:44,">>144168144 you are right it should be enforced, but not by a state, but by free men who care",,TPM,1492857947581.png,YzIv9bSsj5cM0bUQtgGqgQ==,,,1507213964 144157563,144168889,2017-10-05 14:35:42,">>144168500 >an ancom saying ancaps are jew pawns do you know what will the corps from doing that? same thing that has guarantees freedom worldwide. the strong will of the people to be free",,TPM,Removenow.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,,,1507214142 144157563,144169097,2017-10-05 14:37:20,">>144167787 Kikery. Open your borders to trade and immigration. Culture and race don't exist except as expressions of anxiety. The people of a society that have created its infrastructure and institutions have no ownership rights to the benefits obtained from them. Don't create the next generation. Pure kikery.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507214240 144157563,144169367,2017-10-05 14:39:29,">>144168500 >company hires goons to enslave a town >neighborhood hears them attempt to kidnap the first person >neighborhood kills the goons if the first victim doesn't get to them first or >company hires goons to enslave a town >local companies get word of it, kill the goons, and then take the original company's capital or >company hires goons to enslave a town >mercenaries are hired by the town >goons are killed and the company's reputation is destroyed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507214369 144157563,144169574,2017-10-05 14:41:16,">>144169367 >goons kill or enslave neighbourhood >""oh well, didn't fight them hard enough lol""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507214476 144157563,144169923,2017-10-05 14:44:05,">>144169367 >local companies get word of it, kill the goons, and then take the original company's capital Feudalism. The only reason to be an Ancap is if you're already extremely wealthy and powerful.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507214645 144157563,144170077,2017-10-05 14:45:10,">>144169574 >Gov kill and massacres family compound that's the price of safety lol only a leaf...",,TPM,Physical removal of poor people.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,,,1507214710 144157563,144170155,2017-10-05 14:45:46,">>144168889 That was the most Amerifat thing I've heard to date. We'll see how you feel about that when the McTanks roll through your neighborhood.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507214746 144157563,144170346,2017-10-05 14:47:09,">>144157889 that's an authoritarian cuck on your pic",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507214829 144157563,144170460,2017-10-05 14:47:59,">>144170155 fuck off foreigner, just because your peoples are fucked doesn't mean mine is. besides whats the the thing stopping governments from doing so? people getting violent",,TPM,,,,,1507214879 144157563,144170468,2017-10-05 14:48:04,">>144170077 >Gov What government? This is ancapistan. If the strongman kills the littleman that's perfectly alright, isn't it? There isn't any NAP around to break once you're dead.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507214884 144157563,144170555,2017-10-05 14:48:46,">>144170460 >just because your peoples are fucked doesn't mean mine is. Jesus Christ, Jamal, stick to basketballs not keyboards.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507214926 144157563,144170837,2017-10-05 14:51:16,">>144170468 >What government? This is ancapistan. Pretty sure he was talking about Waco. >There isn't any NAP around to break once you're dead. MUH SPOOKS",,Anonymous,sboogs.png,DiWIshoucYldpcK7TfF8tQ==,,,1507215076 144157563,144170839,2017-10-05 14:51:18,">>144170468 i was saying there's nothing stopping the government from doing exactly what the original post says, nothing except the other people. the same situation is in ancapistan, but there's no pressure on the rest of the communities to tolerate their shit. so the people would be free to attack said attacker without repercussions from a large entity",,TPM,Black enonocmics man.jpg,4RXsWi7BGKHUVKzkynDOug==,,,1507215078 144157563,144171046,2017-10-05 14:53:13,">>144170555 >a leaf getting to caught up in spelling too argue fuck off back to leftypol. and i'll get fried chicken all over my keyboard and there's NOTHING you can do to stop me",,TPM,,,,,1507215193 144157563,144171174,2017-10-05 14:54:25,">>144170837 >>144170839 >there's nothing to stop the government from doing exactly that so let's incentive everybody else to do exactly that so long as they have more guns and bodies than you Really can't see the issue here can you? That's how clouded you are in your pathological ideology. You only violate the NAP so long as the person is still alive :^)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507215265 144157563,144171319,2017-10-05 14:55:39,">>144170460 Because the government already owns us. Why would they kill or round up taxpayers? They ""pay"" us with worthless monopoly money while they hoard the real wealth (gold) for themselves. Back when money was backed by gold you could say they actually paid their citizens to work for them. Now they pay us with imaginary money not worth a damn thing when the government inevitably collapses. But when it does, the rich elite will still have the gold while we will be stuck with paper we might as well wipe out ass with. If your money isn't backed by gold you're officially a slave. Think of a slave master making fake money for his slaves so they can more easily barter among themselves while the master is getting real money by selling the products of their labor. INB4 just go buy gold somewhere. The retail value of gold is many times over its actual worth. Buying it retail would net you 1/5th of what your ""money"" is actually worth.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1499503006204.jpg,Fj99zGi863rDgerQyNRMJA==,,,1507215339 144157563,144171321,2017-10-05 14:55:39,"Do you guys think nationalism is compatible with libertarianism? I do. Please state why or why not and we can dizkuzz.. FUGGG :DD:D:D",,Anonymous,1505673183862.gif,RD8FEPMWSGxjpTrdzSVYYA==,,,1507215339 144157563,144171395,2017-10-05 14:56:22,">>144169923 >The only reason to be an Ancap is if you're already extremely wealthy and powerful. So, it isn't because the state (and people that violates property) are immoral?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507215382 144157563,144171515,2017-10-05 14:57:25,">>144171395 >ANCAPs talk about morality kek",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507215445 144157563,144171832,2017-10-05 15:00:12,">>144171515 most immoral behaviour is enabled by state redistributionist and anti-discrimination policies",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507215612 144157563,144171939,2017-10-05 15:01:08,">>144171832 Wrong. Most immoral behavior comes from the individual level.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507215668 144157563,144171955,2017-10-05 15:01:17,">>144171174 >you're clouded pathologically >you're ideology is retarded! so whats yours leaf? social democracy?",,TPM,,,,,1507215677 144157563,144172051,2017-10-05 15:02:04,">>144171395 I mean you're right, they are... but companies would be much more immoral if they ruled. They would pay you the absolute minimum and keep you working horribly ling hours in shitty conditions. Especially because you're always replaceable and there's another person waiting in line to replace you who is ""lucky to have a job"". If you don't believe me look at places like China. They have nets outside the buildings because people are always trying to jump out and kill themselves. Go look up some Wal Mart factories and see how they pay them and how they live. Mind you, China HAS a governemnt who has rules in place for these companies (be they lax). For the avarage employee they would try to work you to death because you're always replaceable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507215724 144157563,144172099,2017-10-05 15:02:33,">>144171955 We're talking about yours, not mine. This isn't even an argument.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507215753 144157563,144172160,2017-10-05 15:03:01,">>144171319 ok, so being a slave is better? i'd rather risk the mc tanks than be a slave forever",,TPM,divide.jpg,p5M6av1cG2CPFW3QmZAAtw==,,,1507215781 144157563,144172507,2017-10-05 15:06:00,">>144172099 whats your argument? that someone can kill me without government? that i'd rather live free and die than live as a slave to the government forever? that you think i'm saying that nobody would ever kill another in my ancapistan? because so what? i don't want to live under the governmental boot, and if you want too that's not my problem.",,TPM,,,,,1507215960 144157563,144172572,2017-10-05 15:06:34,">>144171321 No, they're not compatible. We're living in the era of nationalism. Governments are bigger and more coercive than ever.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507215994 144157563,144172739,2017-10-05 15:08:09,">>144171321 yes, as the nation is comprised of a people ethnically similar. the state is the state",,TPM,,,,,1507216089 144157563,144172852,2017-10-05 15:09:11,">>144171939 individuals form communities even in totally ancap conditions; self-regulation would dictate what is and is not deemed acceptable, which is discrimination discrimination in today's faggy society (by law) is prosecuted so please provide a viable solution that doesn't show your leafness",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507216151 144157563,144173041,2017-10-05 15:11:06,">>144172160 Being a slave to a system that functions is better than being a slave to any number of different ideological systems that are supposed to work with each other in perfect unison by the NAP. An ANCAP society would devolve into feudal enclaves and could easily be taken on by a foreign state or a strongman from within. It does nothing but create a vacuum that needs to be filled. You don't understand that human beings need and crave hierarchy, and that's why you're a clouded ideologue. You're free to support and want that, just be honest with yourself instead of adoring the title of ""functioning moral being"" on your mantle. You want to live in the Wild West and feel like a bad ass until your Wild West isn't your Wild West anymore. What's stopping my private army from enslaving every community in my region? Absolutely nothing except your even BIGGER army that you may or may not have. Do you chalk your defeat on the battlefield up to your inability to face reality, and do you accept it? Of course you don't because you predicate your living in an ANCAP society as living how you want to dictate your life. There's no incentive for someone to save you from your situation.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507216266 144157563,144173066,2017-10-05 15:11:20,,,Anonymous,1501256000406.jpg,NQamIoc9CCnON0I3qATVgA==,,,1507216280 144157563,144173112,2017-10-05 15:11:48,,,Anonymous,40b07b83553a803b43049cc4a3fdf85b.jpg,d9BWbz2QZb1NWn3pDuCnYQ==,,,1507216308 144157563,144173144,2017-10-05 15:12:08,,,Anonymous,1505979417230.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1507216328 144157563,144173273,2017-10-05 15:13:12,">>144172160 It's the same thing at the end of the day. At least the ruling elite try to disguise slavery as capitalism. You have an illusion of freedom as long as you don't step out of line. I don't see the difference between paying a house off for most of your life and one being provided for you to live in as a slave. Modern capitalism is slavery with better conditions, and the conditions aren't even that good honestly. When you consider hat the Rothchild family owns around 40% of the world's wealth things atart becoming clear. I'm not talking about money by the way (they can print as much of that as they want) I mean tangible wealth. Capitalism is a game that was won long before we were ever born.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1495456551508.jpg,3fM2Fh3hSQWc0eWFo8b3qA==,,,1507216392 144157563,144173344,2017-10-05 15:13:58,">>144173041 What are modern democracies going to do about their national debts? Who's going to pay?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507216438 144157563,144173427,2017-10-05 15:14:41,,,Anonymous,1506795037352.jpg,5PkC92jZKA5+VViGiYFC0Q==,,,1507216481 144157563,144173509,2017-10-05 15:15:23,,,Anonymous,1499629139985.jpg,ZQ7up4wnVi1c6Pvfzs0+NA==,,,1507216523 144157563,144173544,2017-10-05 15:15:43,,,Anonymous,1497200968896.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,,,1507216543 144157563,144173590,2017-10-05 15:16:12,">>144173273 If we do not use capitalism, how are we going to keep the western world from sliding back to pre-industrial living standards?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507216572 144157563,144173593,2017-10-05 15:16:13,">>144157563 When will /pol/ take the yellow pill?",,Anonymous,yellow pill.jpg,1k8xhIp1iZdGWgzE8zor8g==,,,1507216573 144157563,144173684,2017-10-05 15:17:07,">>144173041 >You don't understand that human beings need and crave hierarchy Only weak beta males and women want a big strong man to force his will on them ;) Beta males make up like 80% of males so yah it's a majority, but not everyone as you say.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507216627 144157563,144173905,2017-10-05 15:19:11,">>144173684 so like 90% of the population?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507216751 144157563,144173913,2017-10-05 15:19:15,">>144173684 Dominance hierarchy is an inherent and intrinsic feature of being most animals on this planet, including human beings. It's as intrinsic as breathing and taking shit.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507216755 144157563,144174038,2017-10-05 15:20:23,">>144173041 I know what you are saying, so ask yourself how would you prevent it from going into a feudalism? by changing the peoples minds. get a majority of people to believe in absolute freedom and get them to want to live free without capitulating to a state, the system of the city state is perfect for that. the point is the ancap is harder because first you'd have to win a culture war, the meme war if you will. the only way to that is to play the culture wars game and get people in on it. My filthy leaf of a friend, you must understand that the anarchy i desire will not be one of no rules, but of no masters. a morality must be enforced by the people themselves and not a state.",,TPM,Defending the free territory.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,,,1507216823 144157563,144174257,2017-10-05 15:22:23,">>144157563 >Taking the worst part of the right, capitalism, and making an ideology around it",,Anonymous,ancap_us.png,aNnWzwXZHvxAP7wOlWykTQ==,US,,1507216943 144157563,144174349,2017-10-05 15:23:15,">>144173684 >hierarchy >force his will Average ancom intelligence What do you think of the ancom alphas?",,Anonymous,ancom beta.jpg,1bCd/MpdHjD+GY8PJdSPUQ==,,,1507216995 144157563,144174365,2017-10-05 15:23:25,">>144174038 How is your insurer not yet another state? Legitimate question given your quote.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507217005 144157563,144174379,2017-10-05 15:23:32,">>144173590 Nah, government has evolved and changed over humanity's existence. The only reason capitalism hasn't failed ye tis because the winners of the game don't want the game to end. There's bound to be some form of govenrment that just hasn't been invented yet. Maybe when the workforce is fully automated we can all just sit at home with a thumb up or ass and get a check for existing (like a single mother, ZING)",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1492457442751.jpg,ouJulgBMDg09jarmOun7Ig==,,,1507217012 144157563,144174525,2017-10-05 15:24:54,">>144174257 >the state and state companies are literally the only monopolies Try again buddy",,Anonymous,,,,,1507217094 144157563,144174622,2017-10-05 15:25:45,">>144173273 so i see the answer is to remove physically the upper elites on the crime of enslaving and destroying the populace and their welfare. as for the capitalism being slavery thing i find that a stretch, as it is a system of economics first and foremost. Secondly its the only system in which both the big guy and the small guy can profit. i assume you advocate for commie economics, how would that not be slavery?",,TPM,gET fucked COMMIES.jpg,uywy0Ns5SUlpxVY8bGLxZg==,,,1507217145 144157563,144174632,2017-10-05 15:25:51,">>144157563 If you're a libertarian and don't include your sponsors you're a LARPing faggot, so have a Kit-Kat break and come back when you're not full of shit. We'll leave the lights on, Motel 6.",,Paid for by Verizon,Brought to you by Capital One.jpg,Ng0gLyL9kG9wLSVZjHwWmA==,,,1507217151 144157563,144174649,2017-10-05 15:26:00,">>144165068 there's literally nothing wrong with islam",,Anonymous,,,,,1507217160 144157563,144174650,2017-10-05 15:26:01,">>144174379 If we do not use capitalism, how are we going to reach and maintain a degree of automation that can do what you claim?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507217161 144157563,144174742,2017-10-05 15:26:53,">>144173041 you cannot use this point against americans when the only reason our country exists is because a foreign third party with no stake in the battle chose humanity over greed during the era of conquest there is always a france",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507217213 144157563,144174876,2017-10-05 15:28:00,"Honest question to lolbartarians What do you think the government should own and why? Military, police, judicial system, health system, education system.... etc. where is the line drawn?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507217280 144157563,144174884,2017-10-05 15:28:09,"Jeffrey Tucker confirms that Rothbard was uneasy about allying with ""paleo-Right"". Honestly, do you /lrg/ people really think Rothbard's change in beliefs in the 90s was sincere considering that he was pretty consistent in his beliefs for the 40 years up until then? I think it's obvious that the paleo-libertarian phase was a desperate hail mary attempt to make libertarianism relevant and he probably would have regretted ever associating with the paleo Right if he was still alive today. https://youtu.be/-5xFz2falCw?t=25m9s",,Anonymous,,,,,1507217289 144157563,144174928,2017-10-05 15:28:31,">>144174365 its voluntary, and there is no monopoly of violence. the insurer cannot force you to pay like a state, and they would encourage you to be armed, unlike most states. key point is that they cannot force you to pay, unlike taxes, witch i consider the subscription fee of a insurance agency",,TPM,Hoppepill.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,,,1507217311 144157563,144174972,2017-10-05 15:28:54,">>144174876 Abolish the government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507217334 144157563,144175054,2017-10-05 15:29:28,">>144174632 brought to you by carls jr",,TPM,,,,,1507217368 144157563,144175070,2017-10-05 15:29:37,">>144173905 Well...yah...but what percent of the population is utter Wal-Mart tier human garbage? Beta males need to band together to enforce a system that will give them a chance to reproduce. If things like monogamy weren't enforced the alphas would hoard all the women and betas would not get to reproduce (thus not making more beta babies and the problem aolving itself) I guess I'm more of an individualist. I expect nothing from anyone and expect to give nothing in return. But you know, the gumbent still takes a third of my fucking paycheck every month. >>144173913 Those who are willing to trade freedom for security deserve neither. Or some such phrase.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1488934718624.jpg,GfItPDQQGuleQU00GohpPg==,,,1507217377 144157563,144175141,2017-10-05 15:30:18,">>144174038 >I know what you are saying, so ask yourself how would you prevent it from going into a feudalism? You can't, this is the entire point I'm making. Feudalism is an intrinsic feature of ANCAP, and that's why it's dangerous and degenerate because it creates an endless amount of potential possibilities all of which don't have to be and often aren't structured or designed to live in unison with one another. Do you know why nations exist? We're a social creature who want structure and hierarchy because it makes for a generally safe population where you and live and make babies. You're setting up putrid conditions of social, moral and technological decay just so you can feel free in the now when the entire point of being a human being should be to act in the now so you can have MORE nows for you and your children.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507217418 144157563,144175171,2017-10-05 15:30:36,">>144174876 abolish, but srsly. the gov should not have any power, as it will always be more efficient than the people at doing things",,TPM,,,,,1507217436 144157563,144175202,2017-10-05 15:30:50,">>144175070 You should arguing with your words other than copy and pasting dumb platitudes.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507217450 144157563,144175211,2017-10-05 15:30:55,">>144174972 o-oh Anyone over 15?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507217455 144157563,144175235,2017-10-05 15:31:06,">only material shit matters: the ideology No thanks. Also, I'd rather not be immediately conquered by a neighboring nation for resources.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507217466 144157563,144175333,2017-10-05 15:31:58,">>144175171 >gov is more efficient Isn't this the exact opposite of what libertarians believe?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507217518 144157563,144175420,2017-10-05 15:32:50,">>144175333 typo i really need to spell check more",,TPM,,,,,1507217570 144157563,144175491,2017-10-05 15:33:26,">>144175333 >>144175420 Freudin slip from a larper.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507217606 144157563,144175533,2017-10-05 15:33:47,">>144175420 So if it doesn't have any power then what is it's purpose? Or are you seriously saying no government is good",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507217627 144157563,144175566,2017-10-05 15:34:08,">>144174650 I mean, if we were all actively working towards that goal maybe one of the more cohersive systems. I doubt ""they"" will ever let men not work though. Like I said, capitalism is a game and the winners are doing everything in their power to make sure the game does not end. Even if they automate everything, they'll find something for us to do just to keep us busy. Probably make you go to an office and press a button repeatedly even if the button doesn't do anything.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507217648 144157563,144175582,2017-10-05 15:34:15,">>144175491 Big lenny pls",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507217655 144157563,144175849,2017-10-05 15:36:55,">>144175141 so i feel like the main point is >a state so we can be safe and make babies i want to say the in period without a state, like the wild west. it was much more safer and you were less likely to be robbed and killed than in an innercity. states do not make safety, people do. i dare you to go to any rural town, notice how the police are almost nonexistent and you can walk down a road at night and not be shot. honestly the first step to safety is you, not the police",,TPM,,,,,1507217815 144157563,144175993,2017-10-05 15:38:17,">>144175566 What do you mean by a ""more cohersive system""?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507217897 144157563,144176033,2017-10-05 15:38:34,">>144175491 >getting caught up on typos and using them as real argument points SAD!",,TPM,jojoisdeep.jpg,OOergt+5K1o780n+8HbEXA==,,,1507217914 144157563,144176051,2017-10-05 15:38:45,">>144172051 This is a good point, m8. Labor is a scarce ""commodity"", the price per labor may increase as the market needs. >Look at places like China The average wage in China is higher than in places like Brazil. The cause? Some capitalism. Yes, the work condition in China and in many other countries is horrible. The cause? State. And coercion is immoral. If a company or state are coercive, they are immoral. And, would you buy something from a company that enslaves people on a high scale?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507217925 144157563,144176232,2017-10-05 15:40:27,">>144175202 What do you want me to say? Just because most men are weak betas with no confidence in themselves or their abilities that look to other men for leadership I have to be subjected to their system? I was born on an owned planet. We coul have total liberty, but the majority of people are too scared and stupid for it. They are okay with being told what to do and how to live and are willing to keep their ead down because they are promised reproduction. They're happy with a woman settling for them because she has no other options because the system set in place is designed as such.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507218027 144157563,144176321,2017-10-05 15:41:18,">>144175533 no gov is good, yes, but you gotta have a good people to make sure of it, as the west is NOW its not feasible without a fascism first too weed out the shit",,TPM,,,,,1507218078 144157563,144176361,2017-10-05 15:41:41,">>144175211 Are you? You need the grownups to watch over you and make sure you don't get an owie. Just because you can't govern yourself doesn't mean everyone else can't.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507218101 144157563,144176421,2017-10-05 15:42:13,">>144175849 The real West and not the make believe ""Wild West"" still had local government and hierarchy that kept people in line. >i dare you to go to any rural town, notice how the police are almost nonexistent and you can walk down a road at night and not be shot. These are not ANCAP societies and are still under municipal, provincial and federal law. ""Almost"" is the key word there buddy. >honestly the first step to safety is you, not the police Doesn't mean the police and the state shouldn't exist. When does a group of leaders become a government?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507218133 144157563,144176730,2017-10-05 15:45:10,">>144166692 This, thanks based op",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507218310 144157563,144176841,2017-10-05 15:46:14,">>144175993 Probably the kind of government that owns everything and can coordinaye efforts to work towards a common goal. What's the one where the government owns everything? Fascism? Feudalism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507218374 144157563,144176870,2017-10-05 15:46:33,">>144176421 >had local governments and hierarchies DING DING DING you figured out. city states and family based lifestyles are the key. were not looking to be pagan larpers that live in forests, we like our towns and think we should focus on them anarchy is no masters not no rules remember?",,TPM,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1507218393 144157563,144177045,2017-10-05 15:48:05,">>144175211 you don't think a self-regulating free market would beat anything apparatchiks can muster?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507218485 144157563,144177052,2017-10-05 15:48:10,">>144176841 everything? communism fascism lets industry do as it must while cracking down and shady practices. feudalism is almost a caste system but with arms being the dominate factors",,TPM,,,,,1507218490 144157563,144177194,2017-10-05 15:49:25,">>144176870 whoever makes the rules is the master and pieces of paper never, ever, ever, ever, ever make the rules.",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1507218565 144157563,144177249,2017-10-05 15:49:52,">>144171321 >Do you guys think nationalism is compatible with libertarianism? The basics of it are. >No, you can't migrate to my nation, the state has few jobs but defending the borders is one of them >If you migrate to my nation you bring down wages devaluing the work of the current citizens Of course a libertarian state drafting people into the military and invading other countries for lebenstraum is incredibly hypocritical.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507218592 144157563,144177384,2017-10-05 15:51:05,">>144176841 How would you guarantee, that the people that make up the government wouldn't at some point begin to use the populace for their own ends only?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507218665 144157563,144177566,2017-10-05 15:52:51,">>144177249 >If you migrate to my nation you bring down wages devaluing the work of the current citizens >If you are borm in my nation you bring down wages devaluing the work of the current citizens",,Anonymous,,,,,1507218771 144157563,144177725,2017-10-05 15:54:26,">>144176870 and on the city level, especially that of a small town. its much harder for corruption to take root like in a state. the master is whoever the people choose, and like athenian democracy it would infinitely more stable and long lasting. and unlike a state, you can walk out of the city limits in an hour and then live anywhere else you want, very freeing as most towns are not very restrictive",,TPM,,,,,1507218866 144157563,144177820,2017-10-05 15:55:17,">>144176361 Anarchy means you will almost certainly be enslaved or killed because there's nothing stopping people from doing that. It also means no borders and millions of africans etc pouring in your country",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507218917 144157563,144177839,2017-10-05 15:55:27,">>144177725 ment to reply to >>144177194",,TPM,,,,,1507218927 144157563,144177938,2017-10-05 15:56:22,">>144177820 pls read my image, filthy kike",,TPM,private property open borders.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1507218982 144157563,144178184,2017-10-05 15:58:51,">>144177938 Nice laws you got there. Who will enforce them?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507219131 144157563,144178226,2017-10-05 15:59:12,">>144157563 >live and let live-faggots' >'open borders advocates' >'property rights by discrimination' Nice fascist thread, 'libertarian'.",,Anonymous,lolbertarianism.png,nrgX9ZGHI80zwR3UL58r+g==,DE,,1507219152 144157563,144178231,2017-10-05 15:59:17,">>144177384 They already are. Those ho govern have always used their power for personal gain. Think of a king sleeping nice and safe in his giant bed in a welll protected castle while the peasant sleeps in a hut on some straw. You think world leaders live in modest homes and drive modest cars? No. They drop $13,000 of tax payer money on hot dogs (Obama did it during pizza gate). Just an example. The only way to do away with this abuse is to not have people ruling other people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507219157 144157563,144178521,2017-10-05 16:01:54,">>144178184 the people themselves, organization could arise independent of the state. already in my neck of the woods(the area by the mexican border in texas) militias form and scare away immigrants on peoples private properties, the same could be done anywhere. and without the state it would work wonderfully",,TPM,,,,,1507219314 144157563,144178624,2017-10-05 16:03:00,">>144165068 >A fucking socialist >Kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,,,1507219380 144157563,144178647,2017-10-05 16:03:13,">>144178226 >i WANT my libertarian social order to be over run by commies and fags",,TPM,,,,,1507219393 144157563,144178818,2017-10-05 16:04:59,">>144178226 I'm sick of using the word ""coercion"" here. And you know what is salary/wage/income?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507219499 144157563,144178821,2017-10-05 16:05:00,">>144178521 So you're relying on ""the people""? What stops Jamal and Ahmed from shooting said people in the face at the border? What stops Moshe and Xing from buying your militias to do whatever they want?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507219500 144157563,144178854,2017-10-05 16:05:18,">>144177566 Difference is that the people born in the nation are citizens and have a right to be there and seek employment there, immigrants don't. If you don't like your country fix your own country, don't come crawling to mine.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507219518 144157563,144178892,2017-10-05 16:05:43,">>144157563 Are you in the /lrg/ discord m8, you seem legit. Join us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507219543 144157563,144178968,2017-10-05 16:06:26,">>144177938 I disagree with this. I disagree withand ownership in general. Private property is fine, but not when it comes to land. Owning a piece of land means everyone around you grees that's your land. Well, I don't agree that you own the very dirt because your great great grandfather bought it and passed it down. Nobody should be born on an owned planet. They never gave concent to the ""owner"". Just because you claim something before everyone else doesn't mean it's yours. We're all born on this planet, it's all of ours. I can understand owning the land your house is on, vut you can't just ""own"" hundreds of kilo hectares because a paper says so.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507219586 144157563,144179123,2017-10-05 16:07:57,">>144178968 Then you don't agree with private property. ""Finders keepers"" - John Locke",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507219677 144157563,144179141,2017-10-05 16:08:06,">>144178821 do you know what a militia is? >what stops them from shooting militia there a militia >what stops them from being bought more militias desu, but whats stopping governments from being bought? absolutely nothing",,TPM,Hans on immagrations.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,,,1507219686 144157563,144179207,2017-10-05 16:08:45,">>144178854 It's not ""your"" country. It's the Rothchilds. How can you expect someone born in a shit country to ""just fix it bro"". It's like being born on a shitty plantation and ther slaves telling you to fix your plantation if you don't like it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507219725 144157563,144179252,2017-10-05 16:09:07,">>144178892 Partially. I've found out that my friend is there, i can't use discord right now. I'll be there soon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507219747 144157563,144179427,2017-10-05 16:10:51,">>144178968 desu i think, if you can put a fence on it its yours. and even if someone owns that much land they will inevitably sell it or someone will claim it for there own, assuming its as much as you say. but you don't believe in property ownership, so go fuck yourself",,TPM,,,,,1507219851 144157563,144179440,2017-10-05 16:10:58,">>144179252 Right on. See you there.",,Anonymous,1504132663960.png,hRQOj9tSs48Ul4Go/cUk+A==,US,,1507219858 144157563,144179491,2017-10-05 16:11:26,">>144178231 So, tell me if I got something wrong here, you say it is impossible for rulers to be virtuous enough to follow the will of the people, so to speak, thus, your previous point about a system of government where we're all working towards a common goal is also an impossibility, since the rulers will eventually just use said system for their own ends. But that just brings us back to my previous question: If we do not use capitalism, how are we going to reach and maintain a degree of automation that can do what you claim in >>144174379?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507219886 144157563,144179614,2017-10-05 16:12:41,">>144179141 Militias without order are as good as dead.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507219961 144157563,144179700,2017-10-05 16:13:31,">>144179123 No, I think you can own a car, a house, etc. But calling a giant piece of land you've done nothing with yoursand telling others they can't go there is unacceptable. It's not something you found, it's always been there. You're no different than statists if you threaten people with violence either. Maybe you should be able to own a reasonably sized pice of land until you die. Then is should be up for grabs again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507220011 144157563,144179740,2017-10-05 16:13:56,">>144179207 >It's the Rothchilds. I live in it, its my country. For someone who talks a lot about other people owning your country you seem to be missing the fact that in your ideology you don't even own your own house. >How can you expect someone born in a shit country to ""just fix it bro"" Not my problem.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507220036 144157563,144179747,2017-10-05 16:14:03,">>144178226 >buying into a useless lifelong cancerous neet's ramblings",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507220043 144157563,144179783,2017-10-05 16:14:25,">>144174257 >capitalism is the worst part of the right You aren't much of a right-winger, are you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507220065 144157563,144179787,2017-10-05 16:14:29,">>144176870 What makes local government legitimate and morally righteous, while federal government is illegitimate and wrong?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507220069 144157563,144179828,2017-10-05 16:14:59,">>144179614 then they die, and the one that produces better law and order win",,TPM,,,,,1507220099 144157563,144179844,2017-10-05 16:15:07,">>144179141 So basically you suggest a country with armed factions fighting one another for resources and no one to keep the peace. Ask any resident of a failed arab or african state how they like those conditions Politicians can be bought that is true. But in a democracy they would at least need to explain themselves to the people if they want to stay in power, whereas in anarchy no one owes anyone anything, and might is right 100% of the time",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507220107 144157563,144179939,2017-10-05 16:16:06,">>144179828 Then what's the point? To establish a system that is known to be flawed?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507220166 144157563,144179955,2017-10-05 16:16:14,">>144179740 >Not my problem. Is it also not your problem when your neighboring town gets overrun by bandits? Unless you have a vested interest I suppose, right?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507220174 144157563,144180080,2017-10-05 16:17:19,">>144179939 >kikes shilling for big gov We're too obvious the goyim know. Shut it dow",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507220239 144157563,144180093,2017-10-05 16:17:25,">>144179787 less corruption is possible when you know everyone and everyone know you you ever lived in small town? you'd understand then federal governments, particularly democracies lose touch of the people for the popularity contest they have to go though. that's the short of it anyways",,TPM,More small states pls.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,,,1507220245 144157563,144180115,2017-10-05 16:17:39,">>144179740 Yah youre one of those people that blames others for the actions of others before they were even born because they happened to be born in the same region. It's dumb.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507220259 144157563,144180157,2017-10-05 16:18:07,"Any German /lrg/ here? This place is so cucked, that I just want to put the whole country in a giant helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1507220287 144157563,144180248,2017-10-05 16:18:55,">>144179939 all systems are flawed, ours only allows for those flaws to be fixed by letting the best rise to the top, and if that militia can't get it together, than another will become top dog.",,TPM,,,,,1507220335 144157563,144180277,2017-10-05 16:19:12,">>144165068 >tolerance",,Anonymous,wrong.gif,yU3PkwMKAhKwjZShMnUpXQ==,,,1507220352 144157563,144180295,2017-10-05 16:19:21,">>144180093 >less corruption is possible when you know everyone and everyone know you This isn't even true at all, but I'd like for you to prove it if possible. >you ever lived in small town? you'd understand then Yeah, and our municipal government is corrupt as fuck and wastes money on dumb things because dumb people exist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507220361 144157563,144180353,2017-10-05 16:19:49,">>144179491 Literally any system where one family doesn't own 40% of the wealth. What people don't realise is that there's plenty to go around. It's just the greed of a few making ife difficult for the many.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507220389 144157563,144180375,2017-10-05 16:20:01,">>144179700 If you just claim land that you've never touched I agree with you. You can only own the land after you've transformed it with your labor. You must build a fence, till the land or build on it before it's yours",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507220401 144157563,144180387,2017-10-05 16:20:03,">>144179955 Yes because you're likely next. Everyone has an interest in stopping something like bandits.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507220403 144157563,144180419,2017-10-05 16:20:23,">>144179955 a different ethnicity 1001 miles away getting overrun vs your neighbor you'd side with the next town over before your distant cousins anyday",,TPM,,,,,1507220423 144157563,144180486,2017-10-05 16:20:56,"I posit that Aristotle, John Locke, and Ayn Rand are 3 greatest individuals to ever walk the face of the earth. Reminder that Ayn Rand and Objectivism is our most powerful tool. I do not exaggerate. Hers was the strongest attack on commie and Nazi Statism ever witnessed. Do not write off one of the greatest philosophers to ever walk the face of the earth just because you've been ingrained with some maymays about her. Our glorious Constution, the document that set the engine that is humanity free, is completed by Ayn Rand in what it lacked, the ONLY thing the US founding fathers lacked; a rejection of the primordial evil that is Altruism. I would add Objectivism, whose essence had been stated in ""the right to the pursuit of happiness"". But only implicitly. Objectivism states the amazing advent that is the American morality explictly. Cultural Marxists and 'Nazis' are terrified of Ayn Rand as she represents the American Constution completed. Epistemologically validated, metaphysically defined, and ethically expanded, Objectivism is the greatest threat Commies have ever encountered which is why they cannot even bear to have it discussed as a philosophy. The dreaded, horrible secret that academic philosophers face is that Objectivism is not -a- Philosophy but THE Philosophy. Hers holds the particular distinction of being the first ever formulated META-Philosophy. And psudeo-intellectuals the world over are perpetually butthurt over this incontrovertible fact. Yes fact, I do not exaggerate. Including it among their other disaparate half formed, half actualized ""philosophies"", they find it eats everything it comes into contact with. Despite what these sorts of people would have to say it isn't Ayn Rand but academia as it stands that is ""the joke""",,Anonymous,1497141679894.png,GwLsV8x1jBvWsD4RCHf9Cw==,US,,1507220456 144157563,144180541,2017-10-05 16:21:23,">>144179955 >Is it also not your problem when your neighboring town gets overrun by bandits? Its my problem insofar as the bandit threat could spread to my own town or if I have friends or family in the other town. Even then it isn't my obligation to take in refugees from that other town nor is it other people's obligations to retake that town. If someone wants to go try and deal with the bandit problem that's fine. If I have a brother in the town and want to deal with the bandit problem directly or indirectly, that's fine. However, the people in my town shouldn't have their labour actively devalued by refugees from a town where the people were too weak, lazy, cowardly, or apathetic to prevent it from being overrun by bandits.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507220483 144157563,144180573,2017-10-05 16:21:38,">>144180080 Don't call me a kike like I'm not related to you by blood. Humans seek structure >>144180248 Then what is the point establishing something that is bound to fail against order?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507220498 144157563,144180602,2017-10-05 16:21:58,">>144180387 >Yes because you're likely next. How do you judge that likelihood when you don't even know the group or their intentions, and why they're doing what they're doing? >>144180419 Why would I side with either of them? You're not answering the question.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507220518 144157563,144180609,2017-10-05 16:22:01,">>144176232 >the majority of people are too scared and stupid for liberty. There, you got it, case closed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507220521 144157563,144180752,2017-10-05 16:23:22,">>144157563 nice (((roads))) faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1507220602 144157563,144180844,2017-10-05 16:24:16,">>144180541 The safety of the town is based on the willingness or ability (or lack thereof) to protect themselves along with the willingness of their neighbors helping if they happen to be moral beings. Their protection is set on particular conditions that may or may not be present, whereas a standing police force has a vested interest in helping you in normal society because it's their job and anarchy would rule without them.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507220656 144157563,144181053,2017-10-05 16:26:09,">>144180295 crime rates in small towns prove my point, less niggers less problems. >our city is corrupt this is unironically a problem of republics in general. they bring out the worst in men and now this is the point i want to drive home, in towns even as well as large governments corruption is a problem, but if the federal government is dismantled and we weren't caught up the presidential elections. do you think people would invest more time into their municipal governments? and stem the corruption i think that will be the case, that people will pay more attention to their towns once they're attention is not taken my federal elections",,TPM,,,,,1507220769 144157563,144181177,2017-10-05 16:27:22,">>144180602 All you need to know is if they are violating the NAP or not. If they are, their motives and intentions are clear.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507220842 144157563,144181219,2017-10-05 16:27:46,">>144181053 Crime rates have nothing to do with corruption.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507220866 144157563,144181233,2017-10-05 16:27:52,">>144180248 You realize that this basically means forming new states, yes? Hell this is how almost every single state on earth was formed. Anarchy is not a new concept, it was the default system for most of mankind's history, and it eventually led the strongest to become leading tribes, then city-states, then states, then even larger unions of states. Power is like mass, it attracts more power. You suggest to dissolve the large lumps of mass but these particles will only gravitate to eachother again with time, until there is nothing but a giant black hole.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507220872 144157563,144181376,2017-10-05 16:29:01,">>144181177 Violating THE NAP or your NAP? What arbitrary distance does the NAP apply to? Do you protect an ANCAP town 500 km away based on the NAP? 1000 km? 2000 km?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507220941 144157563,144181384,2017-10-05 16:29:03,">>144180353 That does not answer the question. This is important, since answering this question is the only way to avoid sliding back to the question I made in >>144173590. And not sliding back there is significant, since if we cannot keep from going back to pre-industrial living standards, it'll hardly matter who owns what little wealth there is. The status quo would, in the long run, devolve to that of an agrarian society: brutal physical toil for adults and children alike, no modern medicine, no electrical grid. I repeat: How are we going to reach and maintain a degree of automation that can do what you claim?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507220943 144157563,144181479,2017-10-05 16:30:02,">>144180573 it is not bound to fail, as the example should have pointed out, the example we used was that if the current protectors fail than new one will become in demand, this is not saying everyone will go to a state, merely that when it comes to protection nobody would hire a shitty militia to protect them vs a orderly one",,TPM,,,,,1507221002 144157563,144181514,2017-10-05 16:30:21,>>144180752,,Anonymous,dem.png,OkjlZlmILDqHPk5c2SdDZA==,,,1507221021 144157563,144181712,2017-10-05 16:31:54,">>144180602 i did answer, the reason why you'd help them is that they are closer, and not far from you, i'm not doing anything if the bandits kill people a million miles away",,TPM,,,,,1507221114 144157563,144181748,2017-10-05 16:32:11,Reminder that /nsg/ is being run as a cyrpto-coms sockpuppet that merely attracts pseudo-right larpers as a concomitant effect.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507221131 144157563,144181781,2017-10-05 16:32:33,">>144181233 Anarchy, maybe not a new thing. Anarcho-Capitalism has it's own set of principles which aim to make it viable. What you've described is the human desire for power. If anything that should reinforce the idea that centralized power and the state is a bad idea. The way those states gained territory was wrong, since right of conquest was wrong as it violates the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507221153 144157563,144181796,2017-10-05 16:32:39,"So I have a question, why have we not infiltrated the Libertarian party or are working on it? Everyone thinks they are fools. However, many parties like the NSDAP were thought to be fools then it took one or a couple of men to turn the tide. We not only should make a LRG threads, but talk about the opportunity we have to end the era of Republicans vs Democrats.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507221159 144157563,144181864,2017-10-05 16:33:14,">>144181219 it speaks to the moral fiber of the populace, the stronger that is the less corruption that would happen",,TPM,,,,,1507221194 144157563,144182075,2017-10-05 16:35:09,">>144181712 Why not? They're still violating the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507221309 144157563,144182106,2017-10-05 16:35:18,">>144167776 Pinochet looks so adorably happy in that picture.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507221318 144157563,144182163,2017-10-05 16:35:51,">>144181233 but we go off the nap friend, our anarchy is one ment to be sustained, the way to do that would be for the people themselves to want to be free, nothing less will do. ours is a system of freedom for our people, it is not a system of no laws, only of no masters who have total control. now that has not been tried",,TPM,,,,,1507221351 144157563,144182267,2017-10-05 16:36:49,">>144182075 how would i get there you tardo?",,TPM,Private propery to weed out 'bads'.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,,,1507221409 144157563,144182352,2017-10-05 16:37:42,">>144181376 I understand these are rhetorical questions. You should just apply logic to it yourself. There is nothing forcing any single person or group of people to protect anything. It's up to them, and depends on how much they perceive it as a threat to themselves.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507221462 144157563,144182406,2017-10-05 16:38:12,">>144181781 But now again you mention something that should be enforced and agreed on by all, this is something that simply can't exist because of human nature is to seek more power, Mordecha Xing Abu-Jamal doesn't give a shit about your NAP",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507221492 144157563,144182495,2017-10-05 16:39:08,">>144181796 >Why have we not infiltrated the Libertarian party? Because they've turned into a meme party that supports open borders and is unelectable in our two party system. >Many parties like the NSDAP were thought to be fools then it took one or a couple of men to turn the tide The US is nowhere near as bad as Weimar Germany was and the Nazis only came to power as a reaction to the increasing influence of the communists. And this was in a multiple party system unlike ours. Pic related.",,Anonymous,Rise of the Nazi Party.png,baoIh+vrf04Itg3t6Jpyqw==,US,,1507221548 144157563,144182779,2017-10-05 16:41:50,">>144182406 this is why nap is only for whites shitskins, like commies can't into nap, as its based off of plato and shit you can't have the nap without westerners to enforce it",,TPM,Liber no dgen.png,hri4LVvsHDKu5n7MzVm4eg==,,,1507221710 144157563,144182842,2017-10-05 16:42:25,">>144181479 The reason Israel even survived in wars such as the Arab-Israeli war and the Six-days war, is because the many armies from many countries didn't co-operate, and each one acted towards it's own interest, making the Israeli, shitty yet organized army to win and bigly. what I'm saying is that private armies, no matter their power and size, will ultimately fail protecting against a state-army.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507221745 144157563,144182846,2017-10-05 16:42:26,">>144182406 Mordecha Xing Abu-Jamal might not give a shit about the existence of a state either. Are you saying the state is more suiting to defending against aggressors? There is no reason a stateless society couldn't manage. Be it though militias if the society is poor, or be it through private security funded voluntarily by a group of people.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507221746 144157563,144183363,2017-10-05 16:46:57,">>144182842 Also you were still being armed by the french and degaulle until that final point. After that he prioritized the ""arab reset"" policy post algeria independence debacle. Not that it did them much good in the end desu. But the US almost immediatwly took their place so you guys still got a good deal out of it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507222017 144157563,144183412,2017-10-05 16:47:29,Reminder that non-libertarians are subhuman animals and killing them is perfectly ethical under the NAP.,,Anonymous,Pinochetianism.jpg,28EYLHN3YFlLJZ3phHKqMg==,,,1507222049 144157563,144183525,2017-10-05 16:48:37,">>144157563 NAP it's what turns me off anarcho-capitalism",,Anonymous,,,,,1507222117 144157563,144183610,2017-10-05 16:49:20,">>144181781 Sorry friend, I like AnCaps well enough as a ""good enough"" approximation of what the (actually valid) tenents of LfCap and Minarchism. But I hope you maintain no delusions that it can be married to Capitalism. I get the intent: to oppose the mixture of Statism in Capitalism by instead mixing in with notion of ""Anarchism"". Supposedly meant to represent a raw choatic sort of pure freedom. But this is not valid and is just hamfisting your vague view of it. Rand pretty much hard-refuted Anarchism and identified that it rests on both ng concrete and defensible. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anarchism.html Personally I just post with my Freedom flag and call that the best available option. Though I suppose foreigners are a bit unfortunate. Gadsden is better even though I consider Libertarianism incomplete Objectivism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6gV1MUSXMg Reminder: You've already SEEN AnCap in action. Competing Mafia families. Reminder: LfCap>AnCap because Minarchism>Anarchism and in turn because Objective Law>Polycentric Law",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507222160 144157563,144183732,2017-10-05 16:50:27,">>144182842 that is only against state armies vs state armies. when it comes to fighting against a dug in gorilla force it quickly becomes another vietnam. the point is that even if china were to invade an ancapistan America it would not succeed as the entire citizenry would be armed to repel such an attack, and organization is a a thing independent of the state, you could have 1million chinese but i'd bet my btc on the militias and private contractors besides to be fair, you were fighting inbreed arabs",,TPM,teachers btfo.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,,,1507222227 144157563,144183909,2017-10-05 16:52:02,">>144182779 Yes but the world is more than just westerners. You have outside forces who want your shit, not to mention internally you have people who reject western society and your NAP and all that. I actually notice now something that is common to both commies and ancaps: both have very strong belief in ""the people"" and that they will do the right thing for greater good of their society. This is simply not true because people primarily care about themselves and their close families and would exploit the system for their benefit if they could",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507222322 144157563,144184095,2017-10-05 16:53:50,">>144183909 Tho I'll agree with you that in a utopian society we would not need government",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507222430 144157563,144184193,2017-10-05 16:54:47,">>144184095 Utopias can only be approached across a pool of blood and you never arrive",,Anonymous,,,,,1507222487 144157563,144184246,2017-10-05 16:55:12,">>144183909 why should anyone care about aliens given that said aliens aren't violating natives' NAP?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507222512 144157563,144184424,2017-10-05 16:56:46,">>144183610 >tenents of LfCap and Minarchism. *tenents of LfCap and Minarchism represent.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507222606 144157563,144184478,2017-10-05 16:57:15,">>144183525 Ancaps are the joke of our ideology. Reminder that National Capitalism is the solution.",,Anonymous,Miracle of Chile.jpg,UZ5V3uyAblyWS0d2tEXwsA==,US,,1507222635 144157563,144184591,2017-10-05 16:58:18,">>144184193 2deep4me >>144184246 Who's stopping them from doing that? A bunch of unorganized paid McMlitias that are currently funded by _____? And are most likely also fighting one another?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507222698 144157563,144184641,2017-10-05 16:58:47,">>144183909 >the world is more than westerners not the important parts :) but seriously i think that in the event of external invasion, the arms of the people would pull though, we could say the japs didn't invade the usa is that they thought all of us had guns would shoot them. which is what will deter foreign invasions, plus they can't into navies so i'm not worried about invasions >the people only care about their families and would exploit the system read ""the law"" as it goes over this perfectly, only like 70 pages too but the thing is that that type of thinking is what the basis of western philosophy is based on, that the people NEED a government to guide them because they would do nothing. i think this is wrong",,TPM,,,,,1507222727 144157563,144184648,2017-10-05 16:58:50,">>144184478 This",,Anonymous,1499555876109.jpg,xnh5dSvIa+iQULJkw4JRxw==,US,,1507222730 144157563,144184751,2017-10-05 16:59:47,">>144184478 >national capitalism thats the most retarded statement memedeology I've ever read here. Capitalism by definition seeks to accrue as much wealth as possible and that means operating globally ever since he days of fucking mercantilism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507222787 144157563,144184766,2017-10-05 16:59:54,">>144184246 by existing they violate nap, they should exist somewhere else",,TPM,,,,,1507222794 144157563,144184928,2017-10-05 17:01:25,daily reminder that commies don't have rights and under us law its okay to kill them,,TPM,1492697227518.jpg,FqVbw5p6f4HLypb5o9lMVg==,,,1507222885 144157563,144184956,2017-10-05 17:01:47,">>144184478 nowadays we're fast approaching a point (technologically) where you as a land-owning individual won't need to rely on monopolies such as utilities and monopolised services; what you're advocating I consider a thing of the past >>144184591 when it comes to collective defense I'd draw parallels with local firefighting, specifically volunteer firefighting units; while it can be argued that one could stave off and deal with fires on their own it makes sense to solve this on the community level through voluntary funding and participation the same model could be used to gather enough to form a considerable fighting force and - if necessary - join forces with surrounding likeminded communities in defense against an alien aggressor",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507222907 144157563,144184985,2017-10-05 17:02:00,">>144184751 Nationalism isn't Isolationism you inexcusable Democrat retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507222920 144157563,144185061,2017-10-05 17:02:35,">>144184766 are you the world policeman? what's your stake in oogaboogas exterminating bixnoods on another continent?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507222955 144157563,144185099,2017-10-05 17:02:59,">>144184591 >2deep4me No wonder, the hebrews have been burgerified beyond salvation.",,Anonymous,1507227111070.png,F6UN4vWbPoGFg0HdXvYQ/Q==,,,1507222979 144157563,144185102,2017-10-05 17:03:02,">>144157563 What does the libertarian right think of transhumanism?",,Anonymous,pol transhumanist.png,4BFqWaGvLJEhkk2pvD4VJQ==,US,,1507222982 144157563,144185200,2017-10-05 17:04:05,">>144184751 Yes, in a NatCap society all trade is banned and we cut ourselves off from the outside world like North Korea. Are you fucking retarded meme flag?",,Anonymous,Fucks Wrong With You.jpg,fcl8eLRA1+0N3FnMrUVK/w==,US,,1507223045 144157563,144185202,2017-10-05 17:04:06,">>144183610 The anarchism aspect is important because the existence of the state is invalid and illogical since it uses force to function. For example, you have a group, in this group exists everyone classified as humans. Certain ethics apply to this group, such as: Do not murder, and do not steal. This applies to everyone. Except there's this small subgroup called government or the state, that is allowed to both murder those who oppose the state, and steal from people who live under it through taxation. And this is somehow considered not wrong.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507223046 144157563,144185209,2017-10-05 17:04:10,">>144184928 >When certain statist groups, counting, apparently, on a total collapse of American self-esteem, dare go so far as to urge America’s surrender into slavery without a fight, under the slogan “Better Red Than Dead“—the “conservatives” rush to proclaim that they prefer to be dead, thus helping to spread the idea that our only alternative is communism or destruction, forgetting that the only proper answer to an ultimatum of that kind is: “Better See The Reds Dead.” -Ayn Rand",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223050 144157563,144185222,2017-10-05 17:04:17,">>144185061 you said aliens, that would imply they are at my home, unless you meant Aliens, then idk, get probed",,TPM,,,,,1507223057 144157563,144185353,2017-10-05 17:05:33,">>144185102 buddies, as they inherently want to buy our transhumanist products. ergo they despise commies and jews, who keep progress on technology down",,TPM,,,,,1507223133 144157563,144185373,2017-10-05 17:05:51,">>144184985 nationalist capitalism implies economic protectionism and isolationism you fucking retard, and that's a bad fucking business model if you're running a ln economy based on the accumulation of capital. The other capitalist states not restricted by your oxymorononic bullshit ideology will outcompete you everytime.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507223151 144157563,144185416,2017-10-05 17:06:13,">>144185222 sorry if I was unclear about it",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507223173 144157563,144185655,2017-10-05 17:08:25,">>144157563 How is degeneracy not part and parcel with ancap/libertarianism? How do you prevent it without becoming authoritarian?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507223305 144157563,144185662,2017-10-05 17:08:26,">>144185209 >ayn rand you faggots ever read the fountain head? It prety much exposes her as the braindead roastie she was for being obsessed with two timing a bunch of chads, which she unironically attempted to do irl and got massively butthurt when finally got dumped and started living off state bennies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507223306 144157563,144185793,2017-10-05 17:09:42,">>144185202 >The anarchism aspect is important because the existence of the state is invalid and illogical since it uses force to function. See you are viewing Anarchism, romantically, as an operational opposite to Statism. Ayn Rand is arguing that this isn't the case and that Anarchism can be rejected as the anti-concept it is. I get the sentiment friend but rest assured it is still just a half-actualized fallacy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223382 144157563,144185801,2017-10-05 17:09:46,">>144157889 Aleppo??",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223386 144157563,144185831,2017-10-05 17:10:04,">>144185102 Big advocate. Lot's of progress being made in genetics and robotics. Hopefully it isn't regulated to hell by the government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223404 144157563,144185920,2017-10-05 17:10:49,">>144157563 who is hoppe and why is he important?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223449 144157563,144185932,2017-10-05 17:10:53,">>144185655 they're pretending that hoppe is the ""3rd way"" of libertarianism but deep down they already admit through memeposting that's basically crypto-fascism and therefore not real libertarianism. snekfags are just stormfags in denial.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507223453 144157563,144185956,2017-10-05 17:11:10,">>144185655 degeneracy is a part of the republic, it just so happens that the biggest proponents of capitalism in our times were republics, but a monarchy practicing capitalism would be better off",,TPM,,,,,1507223470 144157563,144185962,2017-10-05 17:11:12,">>144185655 Anarchism isn't about controlling what other people do. It's about having he freedom to live the way you want. Only angry incels are concerned with how other people live their life.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507223472 144157563,144185979,2017-10-05 17:11:24,"I am genuinely trying my best to understand your ancap idiology but I don't quite get it. I consider myself very capitalistic and right wing (see flag) and i think there's something that makes sense about it and is somewhat ""pure"" and ""aesthetic"" yet a lot of parts just don't add up. Let's take a step back from immigration and global confrontations and consider this very simple situation: You live in an ancap society. One morning you wake up and see someone took a fat steamy shit on your front door. What's next?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507223484 144157563,144186019,2017-10-05 17:11:50,">>144185801 What is Aleppo?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507223510 144157563,144186089,2017-10-05 17:12:27,">>144185655 simple: you hold absolute authority over your (allodial) land whereas you hold none over others' the community (of landowners) can discriminate against any bad behaviours by undesirables; such undesirables wouldn't be allowed on private property and essentially excommunicated reminder that there is no public property in ancapistan",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507223547 144157563,144186094,2017-10-05 17:12:30,">>144185920 big libertarian philosopher, and still alive. give him a listen too on youtube, plenty of links floating around itt",,TPM,Whynostate.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,,,1507223550 144157563,144186112,2017-10-05 17:12:42,">>144186019 slang for a victim of leprosy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507223562 144157563,144186162,2017-10-05 17:13:11,">>144185979 Launch the McNukes",,Anonymous,,,,,1507223591 144157563,144186299,2017-10-05 17:14:42,">>144186089 In other words, you don't prevent degeneracy with Ancap/Libertarianism, you just surrender the rest of your society to it and retreat to small holdouts. Consider my almonds activated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223682 144157563,144186329,2017-10-05 17:15:03,">>144186094 not grand breaking in the slightest, hayek also advocated for the freedom of individuals to produce their own currencies to counter the monopoly of the federal reserve and other central banks. Naturally that was too extreme and reagan/thatcher simply adopted his moderate positions in regards to deregulations.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507223703 144157563,144186385,2017-10-05 17:15:36,">>144185932 no we don't, we know we're right wing. and every nazi would be a hoppean if understood economics",,TPM,1493471128944.jpg,oODt2L5Psj5PFgc04lpqfg==,,,1507223736 144157563,144186488,2017-10-05 17:16:42,">>144185979 Hire my local CocaCola death squad to burn down his house.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223802 144157563,144186514,2017-10-05 17:16:55,">>144186094 Does he have a main book? I do enjoy reading philosophy/history/economics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223815 144157563,144186534,2017-10-05 17:17:09,">>144186329 his ground breaking work is in the private law society, as well that most other lib philosophers were advocates of democracy",,TPM,,,,,1507223829 144157563,144186579,2017-10-05 17:17:34,">>144186299 humans are social animals and gravitate towards forming local communities, this is not advocating living in a fucking bunker I'm sure there would be places on the planet that would cater to every degenerate imaginable; whether such places would survive is another question",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507223854 144157563,144186691,2017-10-05 17:18:34,">>144186514 'democracy the god that failed' is the flagship, but i also recommend 'from aristocracy to monarchy to democracy'",,TPM,,,,,1507223914 144157563,144186742,2017-10-05 17:19:03,"Are you guys considered Constitutionalists? I'm interested in joining a movement based on the constitution and state rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223943 144157563,144186819,2017-10-05 17:19:47,">>144185662 Yawn myths: http://www.objectobot.com/?cat=184 Except for the being butthurt over Nathaiel Branden part. She WASa dipshit in that romantic affair. It may interest you to discover however that this does not change my observation of her as the 3 greatest individuals to ever walk the face of the Earth alongside John Locke and Aristotle. It's be like discovering John Locke liked to fuck dog corpses or something: it'd fucking disgusting but wouldn't change his placement. Words of wisdom skipper: ""The flaws of a originator does not a philosophy disprove""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507223987 144157563,144186832,2017-10-05 17:19:58,*takes 1/3 of your check and gives it to the single mother of a biracial baby*,,Anonymous,,,,,1507223998 144157563,144186869,2017-10-05 17:20:20,">>144185962 Ancap is the only real an, faggot >>144186089 So if i was to hold absolute authority over a nation, I'd still be ancap? >>144185932 >stormfag Pic related",,Anonymous,1507190671181.jpg,W+L37Sbiwa3aM1XW5YPSnA==,AU,,1507224020 144157563,144186979,2017-10-05 17:21:16,">>144157563 >all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order Including left libertarianism, then?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507224076 144157563,144186987,2017-10-05 17:21:19,">>144174257 >implying natural monopolies are powerful >implying competitors don't out produce the monopoly due to wasteful spending on a cohesive state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224079 144157563,144187032,2017-10-05 17:21:54,">>144185793 Exactly what makes it an ""anti-concept"" and a fallacy?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507224114 144157563,144187225,2017-10-05 17:23:39,">>144186869 you don't own nations/people; each individual's ownership starts with their own body currently, there is an ancap system at the level of contemporary sovereign nations (imo) but individuals living within them are stripped of their god-given rights through state coercion",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507224219 144157563,144187273,2017-10-05 17:24:06,">>144157563 Hoppean totalitarians can burn in hell with the rest of the Hitlerites and Stalinists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224246 144157563,144187342,2017-10-05 17:24:40,">>144157563 can someone tell me who the people other than Hoppe speaking in the first video?",,Anonymous,Hoppe's.jpg,i7DsdpQzlPa/qHai4Kyi9Q==,CA,,1507224280 144157563,144187392,2017-10-05 17:25:09,">>144187273 totalitarian - how?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507224309 144157563,144187510,2017-10-05 17:26:14,">>144186742 no, although by default of it being the next step in the us, we are indeed states rights advocates. if you want constitutionally, like no discrimination, or women's voting rights, and legally bound taxation join the paleo libs or the ron paul fan club",,TPM,,,,,1507224374 144157563,144187512,2017-10-05 17:26:15,">>144187342 *first music video",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507224375 144157563,144187537,2017-10-05 17:26:27,">>144187225 So truu ancap has no defence against degeneracy/rot with a nation state",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507224387 144157563,144187553,2017-10-05 17:26:35,">>144186579 Degeneracy is called such for a reason. It's ""de""-generating what's been built by human society. We are social animals yes, but that's only at a primitive level. Civilization is far, far beyond that, which is why it requires force to maintain. To counteract the animalistic impulses that we would otherwise act on. Voluntarism allows those impulses to be acted upon with no implicit consequences. Whether degenerate communities would survive in the long-term is an irrelevant question, because in the short-term they'd not only survive but prosper far greater than any voluntarily purist communities. A few generations is more than enough time for everything we've built to be destroyed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224395 144157563,144187645,2017-10-05 17:27:27,">>144186979 Left libertarian doesn't make any sense. Leftist economic idea's are inherently authoritarian. How do you be both libertarian and authoritarian at the same time. It's a fallacy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507224447 144157563,144187650,2017-10-05 17:27:30,">>144186979 No, egalibertarianism goes directly against natural order.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507224450 144157563,144187712,2017-10-05 17:27:58,">>144187392 You can ""physically remove"" other private property owners because they hurt your feelings.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507224478 144157563,144187740,2017-10-05 17:28:12,">>144186869 But Ancap isn't real at all, anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224492 144157563,144187797,2017-10-05 17:28:49,">>144185962 >>144186019 >>144186162 >>144186832 You have not thought your economic orientation through with enough rigor. Without answering >>144181384 there is no future where, as you say, >>144180353 ""there's plenty to go around"". I can understand the moral outrage, but your premise does not hold up under scrutiny.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507224529 144157563,144187843,2017-10-05 17:29:15,">>144187512 I believe Christopher Cantwell is the only other voice in that track.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507224555 144157563,144187869,2017-10-05 17:29:27,">>144187273 The only way to bring about and enforce a libertarian, free market nation is force, i.e. a dictatorship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224567 144157563,144187916,2017-10-05 17:29:47,">>144187740 All anarchy is shit. I'm saying that I don't think commie anarchy is anarchy at all.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507224587 144157563,144187945,2017-10-05 17:30:03,">>144174928 >Democracy is a economic failure. Christ how retarded are you.",,Anonymous,Itsnotaphasemomancapisthefuture.jpg,xauEt9oFe93TMSoC0fck0Q==,NL,,1507224603 144157563,144187956,2017-10-05 17:30:11,"As an Ego-Anarchist, I fully accept the fact that the only way we'll sustain an Anarcho society is banding together with the economic/political ideology known as Anarcho-Capitalism. I believe that Anarchist all across the board should band together in order to achieve revolution. Also, fuck 4chins for making the Anarchist flag the Anarcho-Comm flag (which really isn't an Anarchist ideology). I hope you Ancaps agree with me on Symbiotic Anarchism and all the other bullshit I said.",,De-Spooked,mypoliticalspectrum.png,LJPALmXTRKJfK91OrJczWg==,,,1507224611 144157563,144187988,2017-10-05 17:30:28,">>144187712 thats a retards understanding of Hoppes physical removal. read the book or fuck off.",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1507224628 144157563,144188021,2017-10-05 17:30:53,">>144187712 >hurt your feeling nigga if you wanna be in the covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and your people you ain't gonna tolerate a nigger saying family is shit or a commie making their state centered cult",,TPM,,,,,1507224653 144157563,144188039,2017-10-05 17:31:00,">>144187537 >>144187553 it certainly beats contemporary way of tolerating all kinds of degeneracy whatever that may be >>144187712 from private property, yes; there is no such thing as public property e.g. I can build an entire settlement full of houses, utilities, enterprise etc and I get to choose who is and who is not accepted there, say workers or specialists I require for my enterprise to function",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507224660 144157563,144188077,2017-10-05 17:31:18,">>144187392 So you're unfamiliar with Hoppe's actual writings I see.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224678 144157563,144188128,2017-10-05 17:31:44,">>144187712 >Implying militant communists and anarchists should live to threaten your libertarian nation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224704 144157563,144188164,2017-10-05 17:32:02,">>144187945 have you seen our bubble waiting to pop?",,TPM,,,,,1507224722 144157563,144188167,2017-10-05 17:32:03,">>144187916 >commie anarchy is anarchy at all As stated before in my previous post... >This",,De-Spooked,myboi.jpg,JODKobfo+jADIPXuouLYIg==,,,1507224723 144157563,144188252,2017-10-05 17:32:49,">>144186869 >ancap is real sure, the only anarchaic model where property rights are somehow required to be recognised at the global societal scale (ratified by whom and enforced by whom exactly? lel who cares NAP will fix it EXDEEEE). It's a memedream even more embarassing than ancoms who believe the dissolution of the state is actually possible and that mutually-beneficial and voluntary exchanges will automatically take its place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507224769 144157563,144188266,2017-10-05 17:32:55,">>144187032 ""Anarchy, as a political concept, is a naive floating abstraction: . . . a society without an organized government would be at the mercy of the first criminal who came along and who would precipitate it into the chaos of gang warfare. But the possibility of human immorality is not the only objection to anarchy: even a society whose every member were fully rational and faultlessly moral, could not function in a state of anarchy; it is the need of objective laws and of an arbiter for honest disagreements among men that necessitates the establishment of a government."" ""A recent variant of anarchistic theory, which is befuddling some of the younger advocates of freedom, is a weird absurdity called “competing governments.” Accepting the basic premise of the modern statists — who see no difference between the functions of government and the functions of industry, between force and production, and who advocate government ownership of business — the proponents of “competing governments” take the other side of the same coin and declare that since competition is so beneficial to business, it should also be applied to government. Instead of a single, monopolistic government, they declare, there should be a number of different governments in the same geographical area, competing for the allegiance of individual citizens, with every citizen free to “shop” and to patronize whatever government he chooses.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224775 144157563,144188302,2017-10-05 17:33:16,">>144187956 I have much distain for egoism, but if you'll respect muh property you're alright.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507224796 144157563,144188303,2017-10-05 17:33:16,">>144188077 individuals cannot be totalitarian since there's no ""social contract"" or ""citizenship"" or whatever basis for lording over another individual the only differentiator is private property and whom it belongs to",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507224796 144157563,144188311,2017-10-05 17:33:22,">>144188039 >it certainly beats contemporary way of tolerating all kinds of degeneracy whatever that may be That's not the contemporary way. And it's a false dichotomy, anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224802 144157563,144188348,2017-10-05 17:33:38,">>144187956 i getcha, as long as you ain't really a commie than and want to be the best, than you are welcome",,TPM,,,,,1507224818 144157563,144188353,2017-10-05 17:33:43,">>144187945 >Spook detected.",,De-Spooked,wozerr.jpg,RWu6szqgIKpDNIM6sYZ6PQ==,,,1507224823 144157563,144188428,2017-10-05 17:34:22,">>144188077 clearly you are unfamiliar with Hoppes writings.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507224862 144157563,144188451,2017-10-05 17:34:35,">>144187956 Challange: Ayn Rand's Egoism is completely superior to Stirner's",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224875 144157563,144188530,2017-10-05 17:35:09,">>144187843 ah I see, thanks I thought I heard Molymeme too, but it must be in another one. the presentation of main points and key ideas with some music like this is actually rather cool",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507224909 144157563,144188555,2017-10-05 17:35:21,">>144187988 >>144188021 >>144188128 So you're basically admitting ancap ideology LITERALLY cannot compete without defacto statepower to protect it. Topkek, that's some quality anarchism you got there famalams.",,Anonymous,1507214893092.png,y3+oJa+AUcY9q8O3gCNTXA==,,,1507224921 144157563,144188593,2017-10-05 17:35:48,">>144187869 Literally the same end and nearly the same means as Marxist communism >>144187988 I've read it, you fuck off. ""Freedom freedom freedom freedom, murder."" It's pathetically disguised totalitarianism as defined by pretty much every non-retard political philosopher and you know it. If you're more than 50% away from the center on the ""political compass"" chart, you're a murderous ideologue with a flimsy grasp of reality and decency.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224948 144157563,144188596,2017-10-05 17:35:48,">>144188128 >Implying foreign sovereign states should live to threaten your decentralized libertarian tribal territories Or does this lead into that ""world revolution"" thing I heard a bit about?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507224948 144157563,144188602,2017-10-05 17:35:55,">>144188164 I've seen every single nation/empire/group of people grow prosperous when they adopted democratic principles to certain degrees. And those same collectives fall from grace when they abandoned it.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1507224955 144157563,144188606,2017-10-05 17:35:56,">>144188302 Likewise, my friend.",,De-Spooked,stirner-beats-marx.jpg,aBx1Uj1yNNHRvf8uO/1ITA==,,,1507224956 144157563,144188639,2017-10-05 17:36:16,">>144188167 The flag made me think you were ancom. You're still a faggot for using meme flags anyway desu >>144188252 I not very woke on ancap ideology, but I was under the impression that property was defined by what you could hold on to. It's not like you could send the police around to remove squatters.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507224976 144157563,144188682,2017-10-05 17:36:38,">>144188530 thats possible. molymemes might be in one of those tracks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507224998 144157563,144188712,2017-10-05 17:36:57,">>144188302 Of course, my property",,Anonymous,,,,,1507225017 144157563,144188724,2017-10-05 17:37:01,">>144188303 ""We should/must all do this violent thing to this group of people because of this political ideal but we believe in freedom""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225021 144157563,144188782,2017-10-05 17:37:34,">>144188639 I'm using a meme flag? No, I'm not. I'm an Anarchist but 4chins made the Ancom flag represent Anarchism.",,De-Spooked,,,,,1507225054 144157563,144188798,2017-10-05 17:37:42,">>144188302 >I have much distain for egoism Discover Ayn Rand's flavor (the measurably superior) and you won't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225062 144157563,144188823,2017-10-05 17:37:52,">>144188593 >""Freedom freedom freedom freedom, murder."" Hoppe has never advocated for murder. prove me wrong idiot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507225072 144157563,144188893,2017-10-05 17:38:35,">>144188782 All non country flags are memeflags, newfriend",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507225115 144157563,144188912,2017-10-05 17:38:51,">>144188798 sorry m8, shes a little too autismo for my taste.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507225131 144157563,144188965,2017-10-05 17:39:20,">>144188823 No, you're right, puritanical hyperlibertarianism is obviously the only truly rational ideology and pushing people into viking-style outlaw status for disagreeing is just as rational as your perfect ideology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225160 144157563,144188975,2017-10-05 17:39:24,">>144188555 This person I am about to agree with is retarded elsewise but, this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225164 144157563,144189072,2017-10-05 17:40:16,">>144188965 I said prove me wrong. oh wait you cant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507225216 144157563,144189180,2017-10-05 17:41:17,Is this is what Marx's work sums up to be? Becuase that's what it feels like.,,De-Spooked,marx.jpg,B3UFBefWj72S454OD6nyvQ==,,,1507225277 144157563,144189282,2017-10-05 17:42:11,">>144188912 Meh, if her books are too weighty (autistic)f or you to get into (and they are) I really can't fault you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225331 144157563,144189286,2017-10-05 17:42:14,">>144188311 I don't get it: there's rampant homosexuality that's even celebrated and forcefully tolerated (non-discrimination), the family unit has devolved from stong traditional patriarchy into government gibsmedats thereby rewarding bad behavious, drug addicts are pampered with rehabilitation programs at taxpayers' expense and so on take away forced wealth redistribution, the degeneracy goes away; exhibit bad behaviours, get excommunicated how is this not a better solution? >>144188724 where is the violence? this is nothing more than 'get off my lawn and fuck off elsewhere'",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1507225334 144157563,144189327,2017-10-05 17:42:41,">>144188555 I'm not even an Ancap you illiterate retard.",,Anonymous,How to Catch A Jew.jpg,oFvaDg4XzpGRlIu2s1J5+A==,US,,1507225361 144157563,144189352,2017-10-05 17:42:56,">>144189072 The mantra of the ideologue. Kill yourself, 20 year old who's read five books.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225376 144157563,144189417,2017-10-05 17:43:35,">>144189180 That's Nietzsche. They're both products of their environments of course.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225415 144157563,144189418,2017-10-05 17:43:35,">>144187956 Yes, I would not object to like-minded people sticking to their respective aggregations in general.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507225415 144157563,144189563,2017-10-05 17:44:55,">>144189352 You said you've read the book, so you should easily be able to prove me wrong. but you wont, because you cant.",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1507225495 144157563,144189711,2017-10-05 17:46:23,">>144189286 I don't think you're arguing in good faith even a tiny bit but forcefully removing people from the property they own because your own views don't align with theirs doesn't scream ""freedom"" to me. Hoppe does a really really shitty job of trying to justify group violence against individuals and you're free to rehash it but it won't get you far obviously.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225583 144157563,144189820,2017-10-05 17:47:24,">>144189711 >forcefully removing people from the property they own >I've read the book kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507225644 144157563,144189882,2017-10-05 17:48:01,">>144189286 >how is this not a better solution? Because it's not a solution at all. The degeneracy doesn't go away. You don't excommunicate anyone from society. You destroy the society, and form a tiny community of people who agree on what behaviors are bad. You surrender the rest of society to the degeneracy. But like I said, it's a false dichotomy, so even if that was a ""better"" solution than what's currently happening, that doesn't mean much.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225681 144157563,144189927,2017-10-05 17:48:22,">>144189563 Prove yourself right past saying ""prove me wrong."" There is no libertarian justification for 'preemptive group self defense' and if you think there is, you're a bolshevik.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225702 144157563,144190004,2017-10-05 17:49:05,">>144189820 Oh right, that some fantastical monarch owns. Some of us don't actually live in pure fantasy lands.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225745 144157563,144190058,2017-10-05 17:49:31,">>144189417 I find it quite hilarious how Stirner was in the same organization (""Die Freien"") yet they're ideas differed so much and the absolutely hated each other.",,De-Spooked,diefreien.jpg,DViDumB0pGBZoBWt2Uqniw==,,,1507225771 144157563,144190069,2017-10-05 17:49:35,">>144188266 As for the first part. Ayn is implying that laws are what stop people from murdering each other. Clearly not, since murder is still a thing, especially in light of recent events. I believe the majority of people would not murder, and would have a hard time killing in self defense. Look up the studies done by S.L.A Marshall after world war 2. He found that only 25% of U.S soldiers fired their weapons in the direction of the enemy, and only 2% shot to kill, with 1% of that being inline with the amount of people who are classified as sociopaths in society. Leaving the remaining 1% as exceptional humans who shot to kill for the purpose of protecting their battle buddies. Therefore I believe that society can remain civilized to even a better degree than what we have today with the absence of state enforced laws. It won't degrade into a degenerate society. I don't really understand the second part, since anarchy is complete absence of the state or government. I don't think anyone here is a proponent of ""competing governments"", a theory I didn't even know existed, and doesn't even fit the description of an Ancap society.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507225775 144157563,144190409,2017-10-05 17:52:21,">>144189927 I didn't make the claim the Hoppe advocates murder. You did, you have to prove it. >>144190004 Hoppe isn't a monarchist here is the paragraph ""physical removal"" comes from, obviously you havent read it so you should read it noiw >To exclude other people from one's own property is the very means by which an owner can avoid ''bads'' from happening: events that will lower the value of one's property. In not being permitted to freely exclude, the incidence of bads-ill-behaved, lazy, unreliable, rotten students, employees, customers-will increase and property values will fall. In fact, forced integration (the result of all nondiscrimination policies) breeds ill behavior and bad character. In civilized society, the ultimate price for ill behavior is expulsion, and all-around ill-behaved or rotten characters (even if they commit no criminal offense) will find themselves quickly expelled from everywhere and by everyone and become outcasts, physically removed from civilization. This is a stiff price to paYi hence, the frequency of such behavior is reduced. By contrast, if one is prevented from expelling others from one's property whenever their presence is deemed undesirable, ill behavior, misconduct, and outright rotten characters are encouraged (rendered less costly). Rather than being isolated and ultimately entirely removed from society, the ""bums"" -in every conceivable area of incompetency (bumhood)-are permitted to perpetrate their unpleasantries everywhere, so bum-like behavior and bums will proliferate. The results of forced integration are only too visible. All social relations-whether in private or business life-have become increasingly egalitarian (everyone is on a first name basis with everyone else) and uncivilized.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507225941 144157563,144190435,2017-10-05 17:52:35,">>144190069 >studies done by S.L.A Marshall after world war 2 It looks pretty bunk.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507225955 144157563,144190560,2017-10-05 17:53:48,">>144190058 Sankt Max pretty much confirms Stirner was the true hegelian and forced Marx to adopt a materialist approach to the ""society is a spook"" bullbuster Stirner kept using to pummel lil karl. Of course not saying Stirner is solely responsible for Marx tjrning suddenly to economics so ferociously but he evidently played some part in this transformation from idealist to materialist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507226028 144157563,144190694,2017-10-05 17:54:47,:),,Anonymous,COQgS0MUcAA7-RK.png,WTmoioYa/UcO36jhd2Ssvw==,,,1507226087 144157563,144190738,2017-10-05 17:55:06,">>144188893 Hold on. If you genuinely support a political ideology, shouldn't you be able to wave its respective flag without it being called a meme? Although, I don't support the flag that I have because it isn't actually the Anarchist flag; or Ego Anarchist flag, for that matter.",,De-Spooked,,,,,1507226106 144157563,144190987,2017-10-05 17:57:19,">>144190435 Only because it can't be considered a scientific because there was no experiment conducted in which variables were controlled. It would be immoral to conduct an experiment in which people are required to kill others. The study is an accumulation of data gathered by interview of soldiers who were on the front lines. Nothing more, nothing less. It's their direct word.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507226239 144270708,144270708,2017-10-06 09:33:29,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord: 9BXZ5jB RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA [Embed] >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Lauren Southern.jpg,l8cbkF62eLZwaIkeQWuMyw==,,,1507282409 144270708,144271315,2017-10-06 09:41:10,">>144270708 oh these are still being made",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507282870 144437595,144437595,2017-10-07 17:06:17,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. A reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1499943097943.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,,,1507395977 144439990,144439990,2017-10-07 17:28:37,"The law perverted! The law — and, in its wake, all the collective forces of the nation — the law, I say, not only diverted from its proper direction, but made to pursue one entirely contrary! his is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNEs: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,weapons_are_the_means_to_liberty.png,eI5O6TirBEeoRBs5ceYQNQ==,GB,,1507397317 144439990,144440306,2017-10-07 17:31:31,Tfw two threads,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507397491 144439990,144440334,2017-10-07 17:31:47,,,Anonymous,DIMxxcIXUAII34P.jpg,e/ltPFfZbqYkMJAnu+UczA==,US,,1507397507 144439990,144440411,2017-10-07 17:32:21,">>144440306 I don't see one in the catalog",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507397541 144439990,144442274,2017-10-07 17:45:29,">>144440411 Then it must've died.",,Anonymous,ron_paul_nap.jpg,19FJjqRHaqREZx9CAci+HA==,US,,1507398329 144439990,144443943,2017-10-07 18:00:52,"As long as no one is bumping this shit im gonna plug my youtube channel. I'll be uploading all the good radical agenda bits there! >In Defense of Capitalism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiJGDShHJg",,Anonymous,,,,,1507399252 144439990,144444018,2017-10-07 18:01:38,">Individualism and Group Interests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5eQ5tEoRk",,Anonymous,,,,,1507399298 144439990,144444072,2017-10-07 18:02:06,"Any Hoppe experts here? I’m reading “The Private Production of Defense,” and to me it seems like he generally emphasizes voluntarism and self-determination inside private property borders, but yet, he does approve expulsion of people from the neighborhood come the neighbors see it as desirable. What is the relationship between the private and the public here?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507399326 144439990,144444078,2017-10-07 18:02:10,">The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM",,Anonymous,,,,,1507399330 144439990,144444415,2017-10-07 18:04:24,>>144440334,,Anonymous,1uooh0.jpg,jWyjYvi31DllANObLuriWQ==,,,1507399464 144439990,144444731,2017-10-07 18:05:44,">>144444072 From what I know, he's not really advocating for mob rule by helicopter, he's just arguing that a society which holds private property rights as the summum bonum is more likely to discriminate against and thus expel any undesirable tenants/renters/etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507399544 144439990,144444893,2017-10-07 18:06:49,">>144444072 Im not sure exactly what your question is, there is no public property in Hoppean theory. Anarcho-Capitalism is a system where all property Is privatized. People can agree to share their property in such a way that it would be open to the ""public"" but someone still owns the property. If i misunderstood your question please clarify.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507399609 144439990,144445278,2017-10-07 18:09:51,just checking >>144444444,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507399791 144439990,144446486,2017-10-07 18:21:11,,,Anonymous,Hoppe (1).png,yBatC3V9aL3XMgezP49+jA==,,,1507400471 144439990,144446577,2017-10-07 18:22:10,">>144444893 >>144444731 >is more likely to discriminate against and thus expel any undesirable tenants/renters/etc. >tenants/renters/etc. So you couldn't drive a landowner out - even if he was a known menace to the rest of the community - because he owns his property? To me it sounds like he would approve such procedures: >On the other hand, for the owners and residents in “bad” loca- tions and neighborhoods (who experience emigration rather than immigration), forced integration means that they are pre- vented from effective self-protection. Rather than being allowed to rid themselves of crime through the expulsion of known criminals from their neighborhood, they are forced by their government to live in permanent association with their aggressors.17 What I gather from this is that the neighborhood can in certain cases take the law into own hands, unhouse someone antisocial. Hope I'm not coming across to confusing.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507400530 144439990,144446663,2017-10-07 18:23:04,">>144446577 *into their",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507400584 144439990,144446973,2017-10-07 18:25:47,"So why does /lrg/ never expresses opposition to war? That was one of the main themes in Rothbard's writing but somehow I never see /pol/ ""libertarians"" talk about it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507400747 144439990,144447233,2017-10-07 18:28:27,">>144446973 I wouldnt say never. /pol/ as a whole has always been against interventionism. Other than conservative culture it was the one of the few things that the libertarians and stormfags of old /pol/ agreed on.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507400907 144439990,144447595,2017-10-07 18:32:25,">>144447233 Do you remember during the Ron Paul campaign, he pretty much talked about foreign policy and the Federal Reserve 90% of the time. Whenever he was asked about something other than those two issues, he often segued back into foreign policy and the Fed somehow.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507401145 144439990,144448156,2017-10-07 18:38:08,">>144447595 yep and considering he was the only one addressing those points Id say he was pretty successful. We definetly should keep pushing the issue.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507401488 144439990,144448579,2017-10-07 18:42:28,">>144446973 None of our enemies extol the wars in the Middle East and Afghanistan, so it's rarely brought up. I don't think any of us would defend expansionary war, though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507401748 144439990,144448894,2017-10-07 18:45:47,">>144446577 It's not so much that people would seize an undesirable's property and kick'em out, it's more that they would just refuse to do business with him and effectively drive him out of town. I imagine such a situation would never arise in the first place, as white neighborhoods wouldn't sell houses to blacks, and vice versa.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507401947 144439990,144449773,2017-10-07 18:55:08,">>144448894 Oh, right. And I guess, now when I actually apply his argumentation ethics to this, it would be seen as permissible, for example, to vandalize property of someone who has vandalized his neighbors' property.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507402508 144439990,144449904,2017-10-07 18:56:41,">>144439990 What is the future of Libertarianism or actual Conservatism in Britain, OP?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1507402601 144439990,144451398,2017-10-07 19:12:30,2nd amendement is vital,,Anonymous,,,,,1507403550 144439990,144451527,2017-10-07 19:13:55,">>144439990 Name your ideal tax system. >Federal government only gets taxes through tariffs >State governments only get taxes through sales tax",,Anonymous,Taxes.png,RBjpfhXZDNwxBC1msqWWsQ==,US,,1507403635 144439990,144451551,2017-10-07 19:14:12,>>144451527,,Anonymous,State tax.png,AWXFZlatR3PX04YW5LcwUg==,US,,1507403652 144439990,144451574,2017-10-07 19:14:26,">>144449904 Pretty fucking bleak looking at Labour's gains",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507403666 144439990,144451746,2017-10-07 19:16:12,">>144449904 Bleak. For an actual answer, I can't pinpoint much. We have an overton window constantly shifting leftward ho, government constantly getting bigger. Not as if the tories are libertarians. >>144451527 Regressive tax system - tax the poor more than the rich, to get them to overthrow government.",,Anonymous,tree_of_liberty.png,nDQnAEKfvcs23XB8Dk8iOQ==,GB,,1507403772 144439990,144452236,2017-10-07 19:21:34,">property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. False flag operation, co-opting of libertarianism to provide the alt-shite desperately needed legitimacy. Abandon thread immediately.",,Anonymous,60c564d0fcea11737062f58f559fa9fc.jpg,6A2I/0PP+lwTcOvhtFFRVA==,,,1507404094 144439990,144452373,2017-10-07 19:23:18,How much of this do you reckon is explained by the dissolution of Bretton Woods?,,Anonymous,productivity compensation economic policy institute.jpg,mxlyEMGmfa3O9PmrhrBQHQ==,FI,,1507404198 144439990,144453057,2017-10-07 19:31:24,">>144452236 Explain to me how support for private property rights is ""co-opting"" libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507404684 144439990,144453430,2017-10-07 19:35:35,Wheres the discord invite,,Anonymous,1507392246822.png,ANW5pN0hqyKwW4xh1ERnEQ==,,,1507404935 144439990,144455521,2017-10-07 19:57:33,">>144439990 Hey boys, good to see this general on the homepage again, its been too long. Pleased to see your presence on here regardless though, I couldn't count how many gun control shills have been BTFO over the past few days. >>144451574 >>144451746 Do they have an equivelant 'Libertarian' party over in Brittain? It was my understanding that standing for anything that isn't Jeremy Corbyn or Theresa May makes you an ""anarchist"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1507406253 144665140,144665140,2017-10-09 14:29:25,"Man recoils from trouble - from suffering; and yet he is condemned by nature to the suffering of privation, if he does not take the trouble to work. He has to choose, then, between these two evils. What means can he adopt to avoid both? There remains now, and there will remain, only one way, which is, to enjoy the labor of others. This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNEs: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,roads.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,GB,,1507559365 144665140,144666482,2017-10-09 14:41:10,">>144665140 Bumping for privatised Right Wing Death Squads.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1507560070 144665140,144666885,2017-10-09 14:44:25,"Damn right, fuck the totalitarians and their communist lemmings",,Anonymous,RR (9).png,Z9ZD7zJb5JaxZxsQ54um6w==,,,1507560265 144665140,144667048,2017-10-09 14:45:53,">>144665140 What is your ideal federal, state, and local tax system?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507560353 144665140,144667682,2017-10-09 14:51:36,">>144667048 One that is fully privatized and controlled unilaterally by the proprietor.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507560696 144665140,144667777,2017-10-09 14:52:27,">>144667682 I mean to say, a privatized system should replace federal and state tax systems.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507560747 144665140,144667955,2017-10-09 14:54:06,">>144665140 Why does /pol/ insist on NEET socialism?",,Anonymous,3ea92469172fbc4a9ffc924b41dbb76741ccfbe96a6efeb1d62a7f0c3623c624_1.jpg,1HrisQ2lGryxI9kOgUEZTw==,,,1507560846 144665140,144668033,2017-10-09 14:54:57,">>144667955 Shit I got Ifunny'd",,Anonymous,,,,,1507560897 144665140,144668948,2017-10-09 15:03:41,"Hey you kikes, subscribe to my youtube channel for good Cantwell reuploads n sheeeeit. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRzDCK1_weNBdFEHQISTYzA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ykE0FqmSxw",,Anonymous,Adam_Cuckesh_-_Battle_Rap_Diss.png,JdwtWJumWjkBbDaWpANgzg==,,,1507561421 144665140,144669350,2017-10-09 15:07:42,">>144668948 You have an annoying voice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507561662 144665140,144669920,2017-10-09 15:12:56,"Commies and nazis are like siblings that hate each other. It's quite funny when nazis say they are against lefties, since they are part of the left wing,",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507561976 144665140,144669951,2017-10-09 15:13:16,">>144669350 its not my voice, like i said its Cantwell.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507561996 144665140,144670566,2017-10-09 15:18:59,,,Anonymous,ancap_laws_slaughter.png,5aOOOnAii1wNJOy/zZ9ZRw==,,,1507562339 144665140,144670818,2017-10-09 15:21:15,I want straight married people to be able to protect their tree of liberty with guns,,Anonymous,1507227376253.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1507562475 144665140,144670944,2017-10-09 15:22:33,">>144669350 >you 50 pushups for insulting the Martyr Cantwell.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1507562553 144665140,144671014,2017-10-09 15:23:27,">>144670818 People have been letting government continuously take away their liberty for the last 200 years. Nothing will change in our lifetime.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507562607 144665140,144671213,2017-10-09 15:25:25,,,Anonymous,1B0B4DE4-4066-4E63-8CC7-68B801083271.png,XwoG7gMDfInyq1zVrvEZYg==,,,1507562725 144665140,144671373,2017-10-09 15:26:55,">>144671014 I don't know man. Liberty thrives in times of revolution, and what else can come from further Statism but the revulsion of parasitism by the masses? The Enlightenment showed that the masses actually can wake up, but they've gone back to their sheepish ways due to modern indulgences. I wouldn't give up faith that we may yet see the awakening of the masses. The next generation is slated to be the most reactionary in generations, and it's up to us to make sure that they know of the philosophy of their ancestors and the teachings of history. There's a reason history is taught so poorly in schools, and why in America it is rare to learn about the Founding Fathers",,Anonymous,1491766381614-1-1200x2597.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,,,1507562815 144665140,144671480,2017-10-09 15:27:52,">>144671213 Guns haven't preserved America's freedom. Americans are sitting still as their government grows more coercive.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507562872 144665140,144671692,2017-10-09 15:29:57,">>144665140 Libertarians are Economically Illiterate",,Anonymous,,,,,1507562997 144665140,144671752,2017-10-09 15:30:47,">>144671692 >kekistani >literate",,Anonymous,,,,,1507563047 144665140,144671774,2017-10-09 15:30:56,>>144671692,,Anonymous,file.png,JC/f7VeMKLFU4uTllVVnLA==,GB,,1507563056 144665140,144672881,2017-10-09 15:41:55,">>144665140 >Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. but libertarians reject eumemics because it goes against our ideology",,Anonymous,,,,,1507563715 144665140,144672931,2017-10-09 15:42:23,">>144671373 I don't know where your optimism comes from. The average American has no distaste for the state's parasitism or any concern about their individual liberty. Robert Higgs explains why this country is a lost cause. I'm leaving this country as soon as I can. https://youtu.be/_9tysXTAz0g?t=1h1m22s",,Anonymous,,,,,1507563743 144665140,144673261,2017-10-09 15:45:34,">>144672881 We mainly champion the idea of private property, which is best defended in a society with low time preference for wealth - a return to traditional values.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1507563934 144665140,144673382,2017-10-09 15:46:46,">>144672881 I don't know what kinda cuckholdry you take to, but I certantly dont reject improving the mememic quality of the human population by choosing to reject that which we find undesirable for our society.",,Anonymous,RR (1).png,efKiEmenD4v9rgs2OukcGg==,,,1507564006 144665140,144674086,2017-10-09 15:53:19,,,Anonymous,choppa.jpg,AUm5kaiihnWJvXybihY5NA==,,,1507564399 144665140,144675029,2017-10-09 16:02:20,">>144673382 >>144673261 the memetic quality will improve on itself (without any interventionism) because the free market will favour people with optimal moral values social Darwinism is like evolution",,Anonymous,,,,,1507564940 144665140,144675436,2017-10-09 16:06:06,,,Anonymous,hoppe and korwin mikke.jpg,nKJ7kB7sJk/MoqyOVpcmGg==,,,1507565166 144814238,144814238,2017-10-10 18:14:23,"come here lads, gimmie ancap awoos and pepes",libertarian right general - /lrg/,Anonymous,FnX02Z[1].png,q2m3cJkwj0NP1Y9RWvIUMw==,,,1507659263 144814238,144816129,2017-10-10 18:32:04,">>144814238 >flag",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1507660324 144814238,144816170,2017-10-10 18:32:26,"Always make a not of conservatives who say wonderful things about the free market but ban, attempt to ban, or continue the ban on the sale of things between 2 consenting adults. If those self-proclaimed conservatives cared about the free market, they would invent a competing product. The pocket calculator business basically crushed the slide rule business. The same method could be applied to trying to stop the sale of porn and drugs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507660346 144814238,144816550,2017-10-10 18:36:23,"hey yall, whats the best way for me to tell my parents i am libertarian? thinkin its about time i tell them",,Anonymous,1502919168630.jpg,DhPr5l2h0y93p+DNzHy/Rw==,,,1507660583 144814238,144816675,2017-10-10 18:37:45,">>144816170 who's stopping you from selling wanks to destroy the porn business? also check thread name >>144816129 I'm a anarcho-social capitalist",,Anonymous,,,,,1507660665 144814238,144816858,2017-10-10 18:39:39,libertarian right is contradictory to itself,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507660779 144814238,144817363,2017-10-10 18:44:36,">>144816858 >libertarian right is contradictory to itself",,Anonymous,,,,,1507661076 144814238,144818066,2017-10-10 18:51:19,">>144816675 I make no attempt to change the wank business, I just point out how people who hate the wank business can make it go away.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507661479 144814238,144818209,2017-10-10 18:52:45,,,Anonymous,Rn8l9BBALgyyiDJ92s1XmFXZBkNcD0IXddkxgER_eh0.png,vCDAisGa2ENjkyygJiSDeg==,,,1507661565 144814238,144818473,2017-10-10 18:55:24,">>144818066 >you can make porn go away making better porn this is why we're hated",,Anonymous,,,,,1507661724 144814238,144818880,2017-10-10 18:59:42,">>144818473 He isn't wrong. Want a society that prioritizes children and raises families? Promote lactation and pregnancy fetishes",,Anonymous,1505442160839.jpg,cZYHr7O3WjYArKZxeCqF9g==,,,1507661982 144814238,144819039,2017-10-10 19:01:19,">>144818209 These are pretty good post more MORE",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507662079 144814238,144819181,2017-10-10 19:02:46,">>144818880 the ex is calculators and rulers its fucking retarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1507662166 144814238,144819241,2017-10-10 19:03:25,">>144817363 I agree",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507662205 145046634,145046634,2017-10-12 15:16:49,"Motto of the day: End the FED, price war now. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things libertarian - private system of government, natural law, laissez-faire economy, and sovereignity, as well as organisation, tactics, and long-term strategy. We encourage debate, so long as all parties recognise that property norms are inherent in each civil exchange between multiple consenting individuals. Communists explicitly reject property norms and as such will not be respected. Discord server: /H67dt7G Pastebin link: pastebin.com/0rkTentN",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General - The Counteroffensive Edition,Anonymous,hoppe pol logo.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,SK,,1507821409 145046634,145046881,2017-10-12 15:18:59,">>145046634 First for the physical removal of trannies.",,Anonymous,0SfnuXQKHz-Hi44Hrr8NXbskWpFRzCBww00SkoJmW5Y.jpg,AG7FHs4J8TYjXl3ofcq5Jg==,US,,1507821539 145046634,145046931,2017-10-12 15:19:21,"Are voluntary duels to death a violation of the NAP? I would assume so, on the same grounds as ""voluntary slavery"", right? You cannot sign away your inalienable rights, and isn't that what you're going when you agree to duel to the death?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507821561 145046634,145046976,2017-10-12 15:19:42,"Frequent misconceptions: >What is the libertarian stance on open borders? A full privatisation of all property implies the owners' full right of exlusion or inclusion to their property only, being responsible for the accomodation, as well as legally for the good behaviour of their invitees, which automatically rules out inviting jihadis and other savages with no concepts of property norms into civilised lands in large numbers. As long as a state exists, however, closed borders (forced exclusion) are preferrable to open borders (forced integration), if for no other reason than there being fewer people within the reach of a State to be expropriated by it. >Is capitalism Jewish/degenerate? Capitalism is the natural order of things, most commonly used in regard to the economy. It is the lack of restrictions on grounds other than natural law, which must be equally appliable to everyone. Deviation from this model ultimately means higher time preference rates among people, meaning immediate satisfaction is preferred over long-term investment, which in turn leads to less interest in production and more interest in leisure activities, meaning general poverty. This goes to show that socialism, not capitalism, works best for the Jewish interest of turning the gentiles into hedonistic cattle. >Who would build the roads? Scarcity of space implies the need for people and goods to move from point A to point B. Generally, this means that roads must be established, as land transport remains one of the most heavily used modes of transportation. There is a market for roads in any society, the state just holds a monopoly over it. >What is the libertarian position on usury? The main problem with interest loan provision is the historical monopoly the highly tribalistic Jewish communities have held over it, often due to state intervention (which was comparatively extremely rare in those times).",,Anonymous,lrg enviromental branch.png,j70Uf7fHWMbQeydgPiCceA==,SK,,1507821582 145046634,145047027,2017-10-12 15:20:10,,,Anonymous,1491766381614-1-1200x2597.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,,,1507821610 145046634,145047149,2017-10-12 15:21:18,"Recommended reading: BOOKS >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Theory of Socialism and Capitalism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant ARTICLES >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property by Llewellyn Rockwell - mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property >A Realistic Libertarianism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ >For A New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Nations by Consent by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Race! That Murray Book by Murray Rothbard - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0",,Anonymous,cantwell political prisoner.png,UJrMoU5WxgfLTlXwUlxWvw==,SK,,1507821678 145046634,145047204,2017-10-12 15:21:45,Nomad bump.,,Anonymous,lrg badge personal 2.png,GSIQ17+icpCrYk0PWJ5WeA==,,,1507821705 145046634,145047281,2017-10-12 15:22:23,"Media: PODCASTS/VIDEOS >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods Show >radicalagenda.com - Radical Agenda / Letters from a Charlottesville Jail / Cantwell & Kessler / LIVE from Seg! (Christopher Cantwell) >youtube.com/stefbot - Steben Bolynu :DD >youtube.com/channel/UCR7pD2JAMKUx4LH93YWjaXw - morrakiu.com - Morrakiu >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus ARTICLES >mises.org - Mises Institute >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society",,Anonymous,go fuck yourself outside of my property.jpg,TpL8a3uBAzDFfYYfqrVeEg==,SK,,1507821743 145046634,145047340,2017-10-12 15:22:55,"Videos/podcasts: >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >For a New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc >Radical Agenda by Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >The War on Terror by Augustus Sol Invictus - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U >The Leftist Invasion of Libertarianism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHv9NyeS3s0 >Attempts To Reach The Left: An Unmitigated Disaster by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQBJPZKR28 >Individualism and Group Interests by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5eQ5tEoRk >The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM >In Defence of Capitalism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiJGDShHJg",,Anonymous,hoppe helicopter.jpg,RJ/kCYK0ccZUG6DCfPsnvA==,SK,,1507821775 145046634,145047451,2017-10-12 15:23:56,a fellow bump from your Allies at RWA,,Major of Millennium,,,,,1507821836 145046634,145047523,2017-10-12 15:24:35,">>145046931 I suppose that so long as you do not withdraw consent during the duel, it is a legitimate contract.",,Anonymous,paleo crew squat version.png,jE6E/ObJMtIfCOXg9AY+9g==,SK,,1507821875 145046634,145047551,2017-10-12 15:24:58,">>145047451 Truly our greatest ally.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1507821898 145046634,145048143,2017-10-12 15:30:34,Would self aware machines be considered human for all purposes under Nap. This is my understanding but i want other opinions,,PINOCHET,armitage_iii___why_your_crimes_won_t_be_forgiven_by_kagato007-d8rhtp8.jpg,xPbFySahBFiUGNHteJhCgg==,,,1507822234 145046634,145048210,2017-10-12 15:31:16,"Bump for my homeboys, great paste Slovakbro!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507822276 145046634,145048281,2017-10-12 15:31:57,"Only problem, you didn't use my sweet new thread image",,Anonymous,LibRightGen.png,DAo6xn5yvke1kVAw7+HlUQ==,US,,1507822317 145046634,145048337,2017-10-12 15:32:26,Death Squads guys? Anyone wanna form some right wing death squads to physically remove antifa?,,PINOCHET,5957a47d1084b.jpg,Z0BwzrqUvW08TmffLwMUdA==,,,1507822346 145046634,145048356,2017-10-12 15:32:37,">>145048143 No! fuck robots civil ""rights""!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507822357 145046634,145048413,2017-10-12 15:33:10,What did you guys think of Hoppe's PFS speech? I absolutely loved it. https://youtu.be/TICdCM4j7x8 for those of you who haven't seen it yet.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507822390 145046634,145048596,2017-10-12 15:35:00,">>145047523 If you withdraw consent mid fire and are then struck by a bullet, are you within your rights to then ""defend"" yourself?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507822500 145046634,145048667,2017-10-12 15:35:45,">>145048143 Well using the logic of Rothbard in The Ethics of Liberty, if they could assert that they have rights or otherwise show some understanding of the concept, they would have those rights to the extent they did not violate the rights of others.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507822545 145046634,145048776,2017-10-12 15:36:45,"I said self aware. For all intents and purposes that would be mostly done by anti social guys and the alike. It would be boring to have something emotionless for long term. Im not talking about the things that people have to bang, or anything obviously made as such. If something is a human equivalent in all functional means other than a natural origin.",,PINOCHET,,,,,1507822605 145046634,145048901,2017-10-12 15:37:51,">>145048596 You're already in a situtation where two people are shooting each other, so go ahead. who cares where the line of it being self defense or an agreed upon duel?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507822671 145046634,145049013,2017-10-12 15:38:49,">>145048337 Join AntiCom. Go to their events.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507822729 145046634,145049025,2017-10-12 15:38:55,">>145046634 Voluntarily exchanged bump",,ZeBlork,ami.jpg,4FPlJuMLViI7vhN7SqWkzQ==,,,1507822735 145046634,145049278,2017-10-12 15:41:34,">>145048901 Well what if this is instead taken to court? Say the duel ends after the consent is withdrawn, however the person is still struck by the bullet. Can they then go to the courts and have a legitimate rights-based claim against the person they were dueling?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507822894 145046634,145049447,2017-10-12 15:43:11,"wAQ&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov# Best song Remember kids Physical removal is the only way!",,PINOCHET,,,,,1507822991 145046634,145049611,2017-10-12 15:44:45,">>145048413 >Fake libertarians calls other people fake libertarians",,Anonymous,,,,,1507823085 145046634,145049652,2017-10-12 15:45:06,">>145049447 Rothbard hated Pinochet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507823106 145046634,145049750,2017-10-12 15:45:51,">>145049278 The duel is ended after the first guy pulled the trigger and the other guy still gets hit with the bullet after the duel has ended? thats fucking stupid. is that really your question?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507823151 145046634,145049793,2017-10-12 15:46:11,">>145049278 The bullet was shot when the person had consent to shoot.",,ZeBlork,,,,,1507823171 145046634,145049846,2017-10-12 15:46:38,"According to Hoppe, Rothbard was not a real libertarian because he supported open borders all the way up to the 90s.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507823198 145046634,145049961,2017-10-12 15:47:45,">>145049611 >>145049652 Rothbard also hated left-libertarians like you. He also said that the only reason fake libertarians like yourself hate Hoppe so much is because he is so methodological and aggressive in his argumentation that no faggot ass left libertarian even has a chance against him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507823265 145046634,145050086,2017-10-12 15:48:48,">>145049846 Yeah even Rothbard said he was wrong. thats why he changed his views idiot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507823328 145046634,145050107,2017-10-12 15:48:55,"Source? Why would a libertarian hate one of the few men who defeated communism. Makes absolutely no sense. Granted he wasnt an ancap but i believe he was a net plus from salvador allende",,PINOCHET,,,,,1507823335 145046634,145050483,2017-10-12 15:52:42,">>145049278 the point is that it is not just about the consent. it is also about the credible threat that is present as soon you agree.",,catalonia,,,DE,,1507823562 145046634,145050569,2017-10-12 15:53:21,">>145050107 https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/10/murray-n-rothbard/why-does-the-us-love-them/",,Anonymous,,,,,1507823601 145046634,145050754,2017-10-12 15:55:00,">>145050107 If you don't understand why, you don't understand Rothbard. During the Cold War, Rothbard was more concerned about America's belligerence around the world and the authoritarianism of anti-Communists than about Communists themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507823700 145046634,145050804,2017-10-12 15:55:24,">>145049611 >>145049652 Pinochet is a good meme because dead Marxists by helicopter. However, Rothbard's criticism of Pinochet was during his shitlib phase, so it is not to be taken seriously. Late Rothbard best Rothbard, but still not nearly as good as Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1507823724 145046634,145051105,2017-10-12 15:58:17,"It's strange that /lrg/ is so virulently anti-Communist. Rothbard was never a red-baiter. Remember, it was than hysterically anti-Communist, anti-Soviet Cold War era Right that marginalized Rothbard and destroyed any libertarian presence in the Right. Now you people are behaving the same way as they did.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507823897 145046634,145051473,2017-10-12 16:01:37,While the man who i have taken as psedonyms regime wasnt perfect one could argue that part of the problem was other military elites. Pinochet privatized social security and everything but the copper industry (i think if he could gotten away with it that would of gone too),,PINOCHET,,,,,1507824097 145046634,145051832,2017-10-12 16:04:41,So now that sjws make up so much of our generation. How are we going to repopulate after we physically remove them? How are the majority of men going to get married when feminist marxism is rampant on the left.,,PINOCHET,,,,,1507824281 145046634,145052362,2017-10-12 16:09:36,">>145049750 Well I'm trying to understand a general concern here, not exactly a specific scenario. If Person A enters into an agreement with Person B to do an activity that takes up some amount of time to complete, and then withdraws consent to the activity after it had already been put into motion, can they then hold the other party liable for the result of that action?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507824576 145046634,145052646,2017-10-12 16:12:03,">>145051105 >It's strange that /lrg/ is so virulently anti-[The Ideology Responsible for the Greatest Human Rights Violations in History] Hmmm",,Anonymous,1491416988479.png,pPQUQ0fMpSQ+ygmiZwhtng==,,,1507824723 145046634,145052668,2017-10-12 16:12:14,">>145051105 I love Rothbard and I love liberty. Fuck you left Libertarian kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507824734 145046634,145053028,2017-10-12 16:15:28,">>145046634 This thread is stupid. >don't tread on me But >let's keep the government",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507824928 145046634,145053304,2017-10-12 16:18:03,">>145053028 government =/= state i think it's safe to say that we support a PRIVATE system of government that is voluntarily agreed to by every party involved versus the state which is a public institution and there's no form of agreement between the participants in such a system to be a part of it in the first place",,Anonymous,,,,,1507825083 145046634,145055089,2017-10-12 16:34:56,">>145053304 >i think it's safe to say that we support a PRIVATE system of government Not even a little bit. Don't pretend you speak for me. >go let that boot heel go up your anus",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507826096 145046634,145055121,2017-10-12 16:35:14,">>145053028 A private system of government based on land ownership and voluntary association would solve a LOT of problems in society, actually. Political and otherwise. Read Hoppe faggit.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1507826114 145046634,145055266,2017-10-12 16:36:37,">>145046634 libertarians think i have the legal authority to harvest the entire atmosphere so long as i do it from my own property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507826197 145046634,145055881,2017-10-12 16:42:24,">>145055089 it seems like you didn't even bother reading past what you've quoted; >voluntarily agreed to by every party involved. if you want to be an individualist you are free to do as you like, but it'd be a safe assumption that the vast majority of people living under a free market property system would choose private government in forms of renting private property, and rightfully so.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507826544 145046634,145057777,2017-10-12 17:00:26,What are the general arguments against egalitarianism?,,Anonymous,,,,,1507827626 145046634,145058400,2017-10-12 17:05:50,LIBERALALA,,Anonymous,22310238_10156004374650827_3106385127481034074_n.jpg,g50JG4wtln4c3sh+3UXyLQ==,,,1507827950 145046634,145058671,2017-10-12 17:08:01,">>145057777 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rPFmCD---Y&feature=youtu.be Lew has the scoop.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507828081 145046634,145060253,2017-10-12 17:22:38,bump,,Anonymous,1gb7.png,AV1OuOwMoePGSFEEx67tSA==,,,1507828958 145046634,145061273,2017-10-12 17:31:44,"Also, Rothbard said something about americans not caring much about unfair distribution and trade of land because they got the homesteading treatment. What about countries that didn't, like basically all of LatAm? Hoppe talks about it on Democracy, but I don't think his example of pre and pos soviet europe applies here, since Portugal and Spain took ownership of land and distributed it amongst who they wanted it, and prevented homesteading.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507829504 145208709,145208709,2017-10-13 21:34:30,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and the physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace.. Libertarian/Pol Discord: https://d*scord.gg/Aq2G2 >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG pastebin.com/aEL5VWHY",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,ccd140bca3faeae80dddf9444f6bda647b28af25ea9db473fd7d9405754e5ca4[2].png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,,,1507930470 145208709,145210962,2017-10-13 21:59:04,"> american food > remove burger > mexican food > remove taco > muslim food > remove kebab > commies don't have food > remove ????",,Anonymous,,,,,1507931944 145208709,145211141,2017-10-13 22:01:15,">>145210962 >Update dignity",,Anonymous,,,,,1507932075 145208709,145211236,2017-10-13 22:02:17,interest bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1507932137 145208709,145211532,2017-10-13 22:05:45,">>145208709 >physical removal of communist fags from our board of peace.. I am starting to ""use"" twitter to see out people that seem to understand communism. I keep asking why it works only under a homogeneous society....and they get pissed really quick. Tell them that communism is so bad that even North Korea lies about it and calls themselves democratic lol.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507932345 145208709,145211565,2017-10-13 22:06:06,"Haven't seen one of these threads in a while. Cheers, lads",,Anonymous,,,,,1507932366 145208709,145211743,2017-10-13 22:08:11,">>145211532 >I keep asking why it works only under a homogeneous society It doesn't >Tell them that communism is so bad that even North Korea lies about it and calls themselves democratic lol. North Korea has a planned economy. It isn't communist",,Anonymous,,,,,1507932491 145208709,145211753,2017-10-13 22:08:15,">>145210962 remove famine",,Anonymous,boris yeltsins supermarket visit.jpg,tbgK2eT3D1WLBb2hwXcDEQ==,US,,1507932495 145208709,145211780,2017-10-13 22:08:31,how do u respond?,,Anonymous,1507946719654[1].png,w4yrJ+3WsKCkyz2bOmZ3Wg==,,,1507932511 145208709,145211950,2017-10-13 22:10:24,">>145211780 >this fag again How do you respond to these simple questions? Answer them or say you don't have one, keep ignoring it shows your lack of a workable ancom ideology. >What's stopping everyone from joining a co-op in today's political climate if it would make them better off? We have examples of some that do exist, so why aren't they more successful or taking over in the market? >in a collectivized society do people have to work to receive resources if they can or can they receive resources from the work of others if they choose not to perform labor? Because one is being a wageslave and the other is literally living off others labor. >if people have a right not to collectivize and the individual has the right to keep private property and means of production, then how can the stateless communist state be achieved? Especially when open market economics has always won over collectivized markets.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507932624 145208709,145212035,2017-10-13 22:11:24,I tried the discord link and it said the invite expired. I'm a newfag to discord but I want to check it out.,,Anonymous,20170809_200545.jpg,QDhqJz6EnbUpP2zRLL0xtA==,US,,1507932684 145208709,145212169,2017-10-13 22:12:58,">>145211950 already did, honey",,Anonymous,,,,,1507932778 145208709,145212220,2017-10-13 22:13:30,">>145211780 Ancaps and ancoms have different notions of anarchism. Argumentation in this context is pointless",,Anonymous,,,,,1507932810 145208709,145212255,2017-10-13 22:13:54,">>145212035 just copy-pasted a previous one, I dont have any discord >>145211565 cheers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbR96b7ksXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fLhrTA0_j0",,Anonymous,,,,,1507932834 145208709,145212301,2017-10-13 22:14:30,">>145211780 Capitalists achieve, in peaceful natural means, the utopia that commie fags try to impose through the inefficiencies of corrupt, coercive government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507932870 145208709,145212338,2017-10-13 22:14:53,">>145212220 its kinda dumb desu, one wants no coercion and property, the other no hierarchy and no property, and neither agrees on any terms whatsoever",,Anonymous,,,,,1507932893 145208709,145212665,2017-10-13 22:18:36,">>145212169 No you didn't faggot. You've deflected the entire time in the last thread and where utterly unable to answer them, you barely said your system doesn't call for the collectivization of the means of production through force and then said a stateless communist state would happen 'naturally' without any explanation of what that entails. Ancoms are cancer that can't handle simple questions, if not prove me wrong, the entire last thread is here >>145194162 for you to show how much of a deflecting faggot you are with the inability to grasp basic political and economic concepts that defeat your worldview.",,Anonymous,where you wait in breadlines.jpg,dU0cfFIWAzMkuYVlLEAd+Q==,US,,1507933116 145208709,145214751,2017-10-13 22:41:43,bump,,Anonymous,1502573204720[1].jpg,mZejEHBGY0ZgLm+dMK4eUw==,,,1507934503 145208709,145215146,2017-10-13 22:46:11,bumping for liberty,,Anonymous,human_action.jpg,0OWign27FNoOxUrefqPwGQ==,,,1507934771 145208709,145215956,2017-10-13 22:55:27,">>145210962 Remove breadlines",,Anonymous,1479416034554.jpg,X7Qm5KzPDNl+xCqUtp+9XA==,,,1507935327 145208709,145217058,2017-10-13 23:07:56,">>145211780 Much as I respect Rothbard, one of the many things I hold against him is his misbranding of our school of thought as ""anarchist"". True anarchy would have no rulers/hierarchy, but the only system truly calling for that is individualist/egoist anarchism. ""Anarcho""-communists want to have power put in the hands of trade unions/syndicates/communes, while ""anarcho""-capitalists want to have individuals, families, firms, clubs, churches, and other voluntary institutions. This is why, despite agreeing with Hoppe/Rothbard/etc, I do not brand myself as an anarcho-capitalist.",,Anonymous,free markets.jpg,rQnw3dDRfMYNTmjvs4Rheg==,,,1507936076 145208709,145217200,2017-10-13 23:09:40,">>145217058 This.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507936180 145208709,145218540,2017-10-13 23:24:49,">>145217058 >individualist/egoist anarchism how does that work, in practice?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507937089 145208709,145218816,2017-10-13 23:27:50,">>145217058 That's why I prefer ""Laissez-faire Capitalist"". >individuals, families, firms, clubs, churches, and other voluntary institutions. In the absence of the state safety-net, you must fall back to private safety nets: family, extended family, friends, and churches. Everything you mention.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507937270 145208709,145218835,2017-10-13 23:28:07,">>145208709 >Libertarian/Pol Discord: https://d*scord.gg/Aq2G2 >This instant invite is invalid or has expired. send help",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507937287 145208709,145219010,2017-10-13 23:29:59,">>145218540 I dunno, you'd have to ask an egoist anarchist. However, given that anarchy means ""no rulers"" (an- meaning no, and archos meaning ruler), then it seems to me that people who want absolute individual sovereignty and no hierarchy are the only ones who are proper anarchists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507937399 145208709,145219042,2017-10-13 23:30:19,"no seriously what's the discord, like every time the link has always been broken",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507937419 145208709,145219465,2017-10-13 23:35:40,"Daily reminder that open/closed borders is a false dichotomy as the current system is neither fully open nor fully closed and private property =/= open borders. Although open borders almost makes the state non-existent.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507937740 145208709,145219702,2017-10-13 23:38:21,">>145219010 so they fuck off and live in the woods?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507937901 145208709,145219756,2017-10-13 23:38:56,">>145219042 just copy pasted from other place, dunno",,Anonymous,,,,,1507937936 145208709,145219811,2017-10-13 23:39:31,">>145217058 > Ruler: a person exercising government or dominion How does no rulers equate to no hierarchies? Is a voluntary hierarchy the same as a ruler? Seems a bit of a stretch and conflation, I mean we have different words for things for a reason if they just meant the same thing with no nuance then we wouldn't need and they'd have no use.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507937971 145208709,145219947,2017-10-13 23:41:10,">>145219756 fugg isn't it possible to post a permanent invite link so I can just use from the archive? alert the discordbros of this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507938070 145208709,145220042,2017-10-13 23:42:21,">>145218816 That's basically why Voluntaryist got popularized.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507938141 145208709,145220083,2017-10-13 23:42:44,">>145219702 I sure wish they would. >>145219811 >Is a voluntary hierarchy the same as a ruler? Debating semantics seems fruitless, but the point is that ""anarcho-capitalism"" promotes voluntary hierarchy, and hierarchy of any kind is antithetical to anarchy by etymology and, consequently, by definition. Personally, I would consider a voluntarily obeyed ruler to be a ruler nonetheless, but it's besides the point.",,Anonymous,10wario_and_waluigi.png,ejBuxTNE5JdDmYLhIf22Zw==,,,1507938164 145252527,145252527,2017-10-14 08:26:23,"Brought to you by Portubro This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things libertarian - private system of government, natural law, laissez-faire economy, and sovereignity, as well as organisation, tactics, and long-term strategy. We encourage debate, so long as all parties recognise that property norms are inherent in each civil exchange between multiple consenting individuals. Communists explicitly reject property norms and as such will not be respected. Discord server: /H67dt7G Pastebin link: pastebin.com/0rkTentN >Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Libertarianism and the “Alt-Right” (PFS 2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TICdCM4j7x8 >Sean Gabb, The Value of the Greek and Roman Classics (PFS 2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJy31-Drdos",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: PFS SPEECH EDITION,Anonymous,the paleo crew.png,2mYdXJkr73SuUf7IFVNAYw==,PT,,1507969583 145252527,145252564,2017-10-14 08:27:15,"Videos/podcasts: >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >For a New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc >Radical Agenda by Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >The War on Terror by Augustus Sol Invictus - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U >The Leftist Invasion of Libertarianism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHv9NyeS3s0 >Attempts To Reach The Left: An Unmitigated Disaster by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQBJPZKR28 >Individualism and Group Interests by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5eQ5tEoRk >The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM >In Defence of Capitalism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiJGDShHJg",,Anonymous,korwin.jpg,F8X099xlJJ4AxyJeQFQ7Cg==,PT,,1507969635 145252527,145252631,2017-10-14 08:28:15,"Recommended reading: BOOKS >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Theory of Socialism and Capitalism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant ARTICLES >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property by Llewellyn Rockwell - mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property >A Realistic Libertarianism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ >For A New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Nations by Consent by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Race! That Murray Book by Murray Rothbard - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0",,Anonymous,1293623-1.jpg,zGDxaE9nc/zJabg+7ToANQ==,PT,,1507969695 145252527,145252696,2017-10-14 08:29:23,"Media: PODCASTS/VIDEOS >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods Show >radicalagenda.com - Radical Agenda / Letters from a Charlottesville Jail / Cantwell & Kessler / LIVE from Seg! (Christopher Cantwell) >youtube.com/stefbot - Steben Bolynu :DD >youtube.com/channel/UCR7pD2JAMKUx4LH93YWjaXw - morrakiu.com - Morrakiu >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus ARTICLES >mises.org - Mises Institute >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society",,Anonymous,cantwell.jpg,GsAicDPtPhMK+BqS836QrA==,PT,,1507969763 145252527,145252780,2017-10-14 08:30:53,"I'm a socdem populist (although i dont think we are ready for democracy - i know it's a contradiction) but try and convince me to return to Libertarianism with arguments that address the prosperity of all people with in a nation. What keeps foreign investors and then foreign exploitation of a native (in the sense the people who already live there - not the actual natives explicitly) population?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507969853 145252527,145252850,2017-10-14 08:32:22,"My friend claims the humans will always have a master and slave relationship with each other, whether it's between the government and its citizens or supercorporations and their economic slaves. What makes a libertarian/ancap society better than an authoritarian one?",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1507969942 145252527,145252913,2017-10-14 08:33:28,">>145252780 Define exploitation, please. If a Chinese industrialist decides to move his factories to Portugal and employ our workers is that exploitation by a foreign investor?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1507970008 145252527,145253121,2017-10-14 08:36:51,">>145252850 >What makes a libertarian/ancap society better than an authoritarian one? First off, don't confuse tyranny with authority. We're against tyranny (power with no consent of the governed), but we certainly do welcome authority (power + consent of the governed). Simply put: we're against the power of the state since it does rest on a master/slave dichotomy, but we're not against the authority of parents over their children, of churches over their adherents, of the elderly over the young, etc. as long as it is voluntary.",,Anonymous,prince of liechtenstein.jpg,uRDNRYfpXAnIsqkFwYlaeQ==,PT,,1507970211 145252527,145253237,2017-10-14 08:38:45,">>145252913 if they can find workers who will work well below nominal wage and ship them in on temp work visas it is. and what restricts companies from forming a monopoly (or a group of companies) selling all you use and owning your houses? then all you make goes back to them, that in an abstract sort of way is communism. your governments will cater to those companies, like they do already and that is definitely exploitation.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507970325 145252527,145253420,2017-10-14 08:42:07,"Let me also add a H O P P E W A V E section to the pastebin >H O P P E W A V E | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | P H Y S I C A L R E M O V A L https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | The Natural Order https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzrqtCDp-k8 >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | Dismantle Public Education https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujuSkE5AvqY >hoppewave - what must be done (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEH2M1HBuzQ >ancapwave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | PFS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsXwxif4dQ4 >h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | so to speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGWUfp4rhiY >H O P P E W A V E - W H A T M U S T B E L E A R N E D 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc48cJWJxQs",,Anonymous,hoppe_.png,urrdlrmv0PcKNs6dBBRYfQ==,PT,,1507970527 145252527,145253726,2017-10-14 08:47:23,">>145253237 Those workers only work voluntarily. Labor is a scarce resource and the market will force companies to provide benefits to workers as a means to secure their employment from each other. >and what restricts companies from forming a monopoly (or a group of companies) selling all you use and owning your houses? The absence of any barrier of entry into any line of production save for the resources you will need to set your business up. Monopolies form because the state regulates the market and essentially brings up the costs of setting up new businesses, so existing ones are consolidated and their power increased. Also they couldn't sell your house since it's your property and you either signed a contract to it or built it yourself. You need to read some Hoppe. I'd recommend A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism first.",,Anonymous,tucker carlson.jpg,bH5yN/jtIHeXX3N+x+/OTg==,PT,,1507970843 145252527,145254244,2017-10-14 08:56:13,">>145253726 >Labor is a scarce resource in aus there are 100's of applicants for every job 1/5 young men are unemployed",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507971373 145252527,145254256,2017-10-14 08:56:26,Bumping for Raw Paw.,,Anonymous,pol ron paul logo.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,SK,,1507971386 145252527,145254363,2017-10-14 08:58:00,">>145254244 Are you seriously implying labor is not scarce?",,Anonymous,lolita smugged.jpg,G9SB6mqYvl/RcP5OJRktog==,PT,,1507971480 145252527,145254510,2017-10-14 09:00:56,">>145254244 Everything material is scarce, my dude. Regardless of how many people are available.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1507971656 145252527,145254515,2017-10-14 09:01:02,">>145254363 labour is people, there are heaps of qualified people for all positions",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507971662 145252527,145254591,2017-10-14 09:02:36,">>145254510 >>145254363 i dont get what you mean scarcity as in there isnt enough? there are plenty of people qualified, if anything is scarce it it the job opportunity",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507971756 145252527,145254615,2017-10-14 09:03:10,">>145254515 If they cannot apply themselves in 'stralia and complain about it, they should move to Somalia.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1507971790 145252527,145254674,2017-10-14 09:04:18,">>145254591 http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/scarcity.asp i.e. there is a finite number of skilled people in the world, hence companies will have to fight for those people to join their companies by offering higher salaries, compensations, insurance, etc.",,Anonymous,R O T H B A R D.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,PT,,1507971858 145252527,145254819,2017-10-14 09:06:33,">>145254615 so a libertarian society would have to be globalist? that sounds pretty similar to commie rhetoric >>145254674 theres an over abundance of skilled workers here and no positions available",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507971993 145252527,145255142,2017-10-14 09:12:23,">>145252527 >Murray Rothbard >Murray Rothbard's parents were David and Rae Rothbard, Jewish immigrants to the U.S. from Poland and Russia, respectively. >Both Jewish",,Anonymous,how-about-nyet.jpg,7xQiZhlIP5Ew+71gVo81Kw==,RU,,1507972343 145252527,145255293,2017-10-14 09:15:02,">>145255142 He's been accused of being a racist, sexist, bigot, reactionary self-hating Jewish Nazi if it makes you feel better. Read the rest of his Wikipedia page to see the kind of people he hung out with.",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,nvAfsdmLwP6Op/ThDMYU3g==,PT,,1507972502 145252527,145255491,2017-10-14 09:18:40,">>145254819 Nah. Once you have a huge unemployed population, you will realise that importation of chinks is bad for your country.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1507972720 145252527,145256210,2017-10-14 09:30:21,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 1.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,PT,,1507973421 145252527,145256227,2017-10-14 09:30:42,,,Anonymous,Hoppe 2.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,PT,,1507973442 145252527,145258459,2017-10-14 10:08:11,">>145252527 portubro is that you? how does the discord link work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507975691 145388251,145388251,2017-10-15 13:38:11,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us. Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: Ps2MwGX RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >The Case for Libertarian Fascism (That Guy T) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8 FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrgpol.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,,,1508074691 145388251,145389028,2017-10-15 13:44:49,,,Anonymous,et8.png,TgslPR8adW1SCuztDLey1Q==,,,1508075089 145388251,145389214,2017-10-15 13:46:26,,,Anonymous,1506269919480.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1508075186 145836351,145836351,2017-10-19 00:40:14,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. A reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) -http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - Seehttps://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >https://8 * h.net/anarchy",/LRG/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1501801516260.jpg,jJ+XdLhndL7/lpnEJmSUBA==,GB,,1508373614 147197698,147197698,2017-10-30 04:15:34,"Hoppean/alt-right alliance edition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TICdCM4j7x8 This thread is for the discussion of capitalism, libertarianism, conservatism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Recommended reading http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,GET TO THE HOPPE.jpg,xG/KnRin4JoNWoMMdux8DQ==,AU,,1509336934 147197698,147197784,2017-10-30 04:17:01,"You're a libertarian in 2017? I remember when I was 13",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509337021 147197698,147197798,2017-10-30 04:17:20,"Introduction to time preference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP8j7JPd7ag",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509337040 147197698,147197810,2017-10-30 04:17:30,Kill all Jews.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509337050 147197698,147198135,2017-10-30 04:23:44,">>147197698 Hoppe is required knowledge",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509337424 147197698,147198320,2017-10-30 04:27:09,">>147197698 14/888 14 words: There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. 888: HHH (Hans-Herman Hoppe)",,Anonymous,snek 2.0.jpg,vaA5c2RXf6lvcn55JcRMYg==,US,,1509337629 147197698,147199020,2017-10-30 04:38:59,">>147198320 Amazing",,Anonymous,Pepochet .jpg,HINXZgfKULKdyCUyPpOiPg==,AU,,1509338339 147197698,147199118,2017-10-30 04:40:38,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TICdCM4j7x8 I seriously recommend this to you all. Best Hoppe speech",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509338438 147197698,147199195,2017-10-30 04:41:49,">>147198320 lol",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509338509 147197698,147199731,2017-10-30 04:50:07,Bump for Hoppe!,,Anonymous,1507863055213.jpg,LeH3JaMA3ee+meHfrA5a+w==,PT,,1509339007 147197698,147200191,2017-10-30 04:57:05,">>147197698 I watched his speech about the alt right recently. Rather interesting. I don't really like Spencer either. Total autist.",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.jpg,6ALAtfaCM7uFNTzA+gVX3A==,DE,,1509339425 147197698,147200650,2017-10-30 05:04:37,"Heh, stupid libetarians. Don't you know that instead of working for something you can just make the government give it to you for FREE. Try learning some basic economics. Where does money come from? The government makes it but keeps it all for their rich friends. If they shared it out we could all be rich.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509339877 147197698,147201307,2017-10-30 05:14:46,">>147199118 >>147197698 >when he says the police need to be unleashed on degenerates known as antifa",,Anonymous,63a7b48c812ca668f4db178b0b918846497954ca8d95882573570c2f5573c24d.jpg,7eqIKN1aTErsQ0j4J43ImA==,,,1509340486 147197698,147201693,2017-10-30 05:20:45,">>147201307 remove communists and democrats voluntary society now",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509340845 147197698,147203138,2017-10-30 05:45:43,Ded,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1509342343 147197698,147203302,2017-10-30 05:48:37,">>147197698 Hi guys, I've been out of /pol/ for 8 months.",,Anonymous,eJwFwdsNhCAQAMBeKIB9iItrNwQJmqgQ2Pu6XO8383WfcbvdnWZ97gDHNXMbh5_WRqrF19bqXVK_ps_tgWSW8vmU1yawSEBljLyI.png,KQ4cj20tQYWUlKxoVNXi8g==,BR,,1509342517 147197698,147203391,2017-10-30 05:50:03,">>147203302 Btw i lost all my Ancap/libertarian memes. Post Mises, Rothbard and Hopper pepes",,Anonymous,2.jpg,9HYtwBNlwD9W8bT1nSisZg==,BR,,1509342603 147197698,147203555,2017-10-30 05:53:07,">>147197698 Guaranteed helicopters? I'm in",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509342787 147818206,147818206,2017-11-03 17:43:44,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,images.png,EMn+v2zTFwUssxRbsRC10Q==,GB,,1509731024 147818206,147818253,2017-11-03 17:44:06,>>147818206,,Anonymous,1490576677057.jpg,z2upkUl1+VJN04jme6bHow==,US,,1509731046 147818206,147818305,2017-11-03 17:44:35,">>147818253 Nice arguement",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509731075 147818206,147818459,2017-11-03 17:45:59,">>147818206 I'm with you, fuck communist, a good communist is one hanging from a tree.",,Anonymous,chart.png,bkRBoQTE9NPeeXijKGIfCw==,,,1509731159 147818206,147818606,2017-11-03 17:47:13,>>147818459,,Anonymous,eit.jpg,wT/Tj9Y0g6GCwUHlIscGsw==,GB,,1509731233 147818206,147818655,2017-11-03 17:47:40,>>147818206,,Anonymous,1509679772222.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,GB,,1509731260 147818206,147818701,2017-11-03 17:47:59,">>147818206 Bump",,Anonymous,51a7d71a-a4fd-478f-b92f-66734cdcdd09.jpg,b9zYK6PlpDygE/siSlEwTw==,GB,,1509731279 147818206,147819519,2017-11-03 17:54:34,Bump,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1509731674 147818206,147820102,2017-11-03 17:58:49,,,Anonymous,The_PaleoConservative_.jpg,VRy5/ByX63CWZaFzg/tNTQ==,US,,1509731929 147818206,147820119,2017-11-03 17:58:56,bumping the fuck out of this,,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509731936 147818206,147820215,2017-11-03 17:59:39,,,Anonymous,AncapRoads.jpg,w8rH8MRbJS6naoPbU7I0vw==,,,1509731979 147818206,147820311,2017-11-03 18:00:20,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,,1509732020 147818206,147820352,2017-11-03 18:00:37,">>147818206 /lrg/ doesnt seem to get much traction here which is kinda sad desu. >>147818459",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.jpg,6ALAtfaCM7uFNTzA+gVX3A==,DE,,1509732037 147818206,147820416,2017-11-03 18:01:05,"STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.",,Anonymous,jews.png,al+7MIsDMwLL/s3dnc9UYQ==,US,,1509732065 147818206,147820473,2017-11-03 18:01:33,">>147820352 we're gonna have a comeback soon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509732093 147818206,147820515,2017-11-03 18:01:48,Question: how does one get the stench out of a helicopter after throwing out filthy communists?,,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1509732108 147818206,147820698,2017-11-03 18:03:08,"Anyone else glad to see authoritarian fascists getting rekt? https://youtu.be/UnqbteyrdeI",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509732188 147818206,147820774,2017-11-03 18:03:39,">>147818206 But anarchy is just as bad as communism and direct democracy, I'm right-libertarian but all free-market capitalist constitutional federal republic.",,Anonymous,760.png,IOQ0iXRltoRmh2SoQfoHHg==,,,1509732219 147818206,147820789,2017-11-03 18:03:49,">>147820515 >not using supermale vitality deodorant",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509732229 147818206,147820898,2017-11-03 18:04:34,">>147818655 >if you believe in your individual freedom greater than my imaginary right to property then i will aggression you 'Libertarians' everyone >>147818701 government borders are not at all libertarian by the way. you cant use aggression on 'a' to stop 'b' aggressing on 'c'.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509732274 147818206,147821035,2017-11-03 18:05:54,">>147820416 globalism is the best way to spread freedom around the globe. the era of nationalism and government control must be ended",,Anonymous,,,,,1509732354 147818206,147821429,2017-11-03 18:08:53,">>147821035 I dont want to spread shit around the globe, I want self-determination. thats real freedom. fuck off globalist neo-liberal kike",,Anonymous,Virgil.png,wDUxtXohu0wCsohSEEb92w==,US,,1509732533 147818206,147821521,2017-11-03 18:09:28,">>147820898 Piss off, Bolshevik. I'll rip your jaw off and shit down your throat if you violate the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509732568 147818206,147821532,2017-11-03 18:09:32,"Do you not realize the contradiction between being libertarian and supporting violence? To eliminate groups you don't like, you need an organization to project violence. Such an organization will inevitably acquire characteristics of a state. You aren't even pretending, you're outright saying your society couldn't exist without a powerful violent state. So how are you libertarian? Libertarian would be someone who supports something, but doesn't call for violence in order to implement it. You can hate communists, not associate with communists and so on, but as soon as you call for an organized violence against some group you stop being libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1509732572 147818206,147821663,2017-11-03 18:10:40,">>147818206 >libertarian >right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509732640 147818206,147821709,2017-11-03 18:11:05,">>147821532 >libertarian and supporting violence we dont stand for non-violence, we stand for violence in defense of property rights. we're not pacifists. we never claimed to be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509732665 147818206,147821757,2017-11-03 18:11:30,">>147821532 >literally having negro in the name of your country BLACKED.com jokes aside, you were better off as Serbia's coastline.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509732690 147818206,147822235,2017-11-03 18:15:33,">>147821663 Libertarianism is a right-wing ideology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vBZ5rPjPJk",,Anonymous,1509659802666.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,GB,,1509732933 147818206,147822249,2017-11-03 18:15:40,">>147821532 It is okay to kill non-libertarians because they reject our rights to life, liberty, and property.",,Anonymous,NAP Compass.png,TuQypLCZZ+xG/FTff/+4GA==,,,1509732940 147818206,147822253,2017-11-03 18:15:45,">>147821709 No, here you don't call for mere personal property defense (someone tries to take something for you, so you stop him), you people actually call for organized violence against certain groups, whether it's commies, ''degenerates'', whatever. Organized violence can't realistically exist without a hierarchical organization. That hierarchical organization is literally same shit as state. So you aren't libertarian, you're pseudo-fascists who adopt a token libertarian outlook. Your ideas are self-defeating from the start.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1509732945 147818206,147822327,2017-11-03 18:16:19,">>147821035 Fucking never, you'll have to kill me first and I got a 50. bmg rifle for popping off those blue helmets. Death to communist and blue helmets!",,Anonymous,169791408.jpg,m2MLsrboi47xM+T5dgSrxg==,,,1509732979 147818206,147822472,2017-11-03 18:17:27,">>147822249 So you want to kill overwhelming majority of human population? You're literally worse than Khmer Rouge in that case. So what the fuck are you rambling about here?",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1509733047 147818206,147822805,2017-11-03 18:20:00,">>147822253 Communists commit violence and vandalization against property. It is the goal of the communists to ""seize the means of production"" and abolish private property after all. and dont even get me started on those ""peaceful communists"" they dont exist, and if they do they're sp useless I dont care if they rot. Nigger.",,Anonymous,Commies (1).jpg,yL1qw3koHy3lpzfz0QPPhw==,US,,1509733200 147818206,147822901,2017-11-03 18:20:41,">>147822472 >So you want to kill overwhelming majority of human population? Yes, as it turns out, most people are freedom-hating psychopaths. I see no other recourse but to kill them in self-defense. >You're literally worse than Khmer Rouge in that case. The Khmer Rouge weren't defending themselves from an onslaught of deranged statists; on the contrary, they are they are the pinnacle of the mindless statism that plagues so many people today.",,Anonymous,communist hypocrisy.png,gUpWaYJ5MctN5cWBtVbeGQ==,,,1509733241 147818206,147822972,2017-11-03 18:21:18,>>147818206,,Anonymous,lwe_wanted_libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,,,1509733278 147818206,147823128,2017-11-03 18:22:29,">>147822805 So much for ''libertarians have high IQ"". How can you not understand my point? To do things you want to do from the outset, you need a strong state. Strong state means it's not a libertarian society.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1509733349 147818206,147823259,2017-11-03 18:23:25,">>147822901 You're just throwing around buzzwords like they did. You just said you want to kill most of humans, so you're just a rabid lunatic, worse than any communists who ever lived.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1509733405 147818206,147823297,2017-11-03 18:23:44,">>147821429 you should want freedom for everyone, otherwise you don't really care about freedom in itself, you're just a hedonist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509733424 147818206,147823475,2017-11-03 18:25:21,">>147822972 We stuck to our principles AND we adapted a better strategy.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509733521 147818206,147823529,2017-11-03 18:25:47,">>147822972 I'm right libertarian and very patriotic and strongly believe in government as my American founders intended, not all libertarians are anarchist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509733547 147818206,147823557,2017-11-03 18:25:59,">>147823297 GET OUT FAGGOT",,Anonymous,1509570313561.jpg,LZYtq8xWcE63xD2XAVcS9A==,SK,,1509733559 147818206,147823636,2017-11-03 18:26:37,">>147823259 Buddy, if your ideology is centered around stealing from me and hurting me if I resist, you're the lunatic.",,Anonymous,communism is a threat.png,Cy1MSoRj2WJ1rtGgvuSLbQ==,,,1509733597 147818206,147823763,2017-11-03 18:27:37,">>147823636 Buzzwords.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1509733657 147818206,147823793,2017-11-03 18:27:54,">>147822972 >truth is that women are inferior to men in many respects oh, fuck off. of course there are some areas where men do better but there are just as many where women are better and overall women are actually better suited to a post-industrial age.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509733674 147818206,147823859,2017-11-03 18:28:19,">>147823128 Ancaps like goverment you retard. It sounds like you need a rundown on what we mean by ""The State"" >The Anatomy of the State - Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf its not long, just read it and stop being such a moron.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509733699 147818206,147823913,2017-11-03 18:28:38,">>147822472 he wants to kill them all but at least he doesn't want to take pennies from their pockets unless he can fool them into parting with them",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509733718 147818206,147824210,2017-11-03 18:31:01,Rothbard himself was not a red-baiter like the people in these threads. It was the anti-Communists who drove Rothbard and other libertarians out of the post-war Right.,,Anonymous,,,,,1509733861 147818206,147824263,2017-11-03 18:31:23,">>147823297 We don't give a shit about ""freedumb"" we care about property rights, global central planning is at odds with with that goal. remove yourself kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509733883 147818206,147824345,2017-11-03 18:31:58,>>147823763,,Anonymous,70e.jpg,vX8ZVHsoK8GmJQ9zMYkenA==,,,1509733918 147818206,147824398,2017-11-03 18:32:21,"Also, reminder that David Friedman visited one of these threads and BTFO the Hoppeans.",,Anonymous,hoppeans BTFO.png,pu7Qa0h8gg+dWZolyuF4zQ==,,,1509733941 147818206,147824468,2017-11-03 18:32:59,">>147823859 Whatever, I thought you were actually somewhat rational humans instead of schizophrenics who live in a meme world.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1509733979 147818206,147824482,2017-11-03 18:33:11,Natsoc's are your friends. With you on the day of the rope kamaraden!,,Anonymous,,,,,1509733991 147818206,147824574,2017-11-03 18:34:01,">>147824210 That is true. So you're saying because people who were anti-communist treated Rothbard like shit that we should be.. pro-communist?",,Anonymous,1508977678451.jpg,Y9QyMvVTGAf467BJ4nvRUw==,US,,1509734041 147818206,147824653,2017-11-03 18:34:42,">>147824398 >>147824210 we can have open borders or a welfare state and people are not ready to get rid of the welfare state physically remove all open borders advocates until welfare state is abolished",,Anonymous,,,,,1509734082 147818206,147824733,2017-11-03 18:35:13,">>147824398 Oh no someone posted a David Friedman book! how will we ever recover?",,Anonymous,Crush.png,HQl3OeUH7jJVktLD9nJrwA==,US,,1509734113 147818206,147824856,2017-11-03 18:36:12,">>147824468 Read the book faggot. it's only 60 pages. stop being a retard on purpose.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509734172 147818206,147824941,2017-11-03 18:36:53,">>147824263 >global central planning is at odds with with that goal. 1. that's not exactly a definition of globalism. very dishonest. 2. planning by individual nation states is much more problematic. they rule over their people with an iron fist, punish others with trade barriers, confiscate property of investors and nothing is done.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509734213 147818206,147825081,2017-11-03 18:38:02,">>147824398 holy shit. that's in his real writing style too. we're not worthy...",,Anonymous,,,,,1509734282 147818206,147825318,2017-11-03 18:40:09,">>147824941 1. What is your gay definition of globalism? 2. I want planning by proprietors, thats even more decentralized than nation-states. I support nationalism as a way to undermine super-states like the EU that are taking us into a global statist future. when thats done I'll be a states and regional rights guy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509734409 147818206,147825645,2017-11-03 18:42:44,">>147825318 >nationalist >libertarian So you are just a edgy teenager adding as much buzzwords as possible in a attempt to form a special snowflake ideology? Nationalism is a antithesis to libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1509734564 147818206,147825748,2017-11-03 18:43:32,>>147824482,,Anonymous,15268076_1188375851230732_2679676027705568361_n.png,aU644NA/qsYNY+wU0UdZDw==,GB,,1509734612 147818206,147825789,2017-11-03 18:43:55,">>147820102 Fits my bill except for >creation theory in schools You could teach that as a footnote maybe, but Evolution makes far more sense and is more important for a White child to understand so they know the dangers of miscegenation. >Distaste for Universalism & Secularism Church and State should be separated. >Right to Work Not entirely sure what this means, but as far as I remember that's about the women's right to work, which I don't think should be in place as it creates more problems than it solves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509734635 147818206,147825910,2017-11-03 18:44:54,">>147825645 a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory is an anti-libertarian concept? Please enlighten me as to how you came to that conclusion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509734694 147818206,147826503,2017-11-03 18:49:36,">>147825910 They're thinking of ant-government anarchist scum.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509734976 147818206,147826520,2017-11-03 18:49:45,">>147825318 >1. What is your gay definition of globalism? Wanting power and sovereignty to reside with international bodies (mostly as opposed to national bodies) I could define nationalism as 'central planning by nation states' but that would be dishonest as well. It's just a matter of power, not power usage >2. I want planning by proprietors, thats even more decentralized than nation-states. I support nationalism as a way to undermine super-states like the EU that are taking us into a global statist future. when thats done I'll be a states and regional rights guy. I don't think there's an 'individual proprietor' future ahead. Here's how I look at it. A monopoly on violence is the first step to reducing violence among individuals. So a monopoly on law will reduce violence among nations.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509734985 147818206,147826523,2017-11-03 18:49:48,">>147823793 >truth is that women are inferior to men in many respects doesn't exclude >>truth is that men are inferior to women in many respects we're not biologically equal, no one is drawing a general ""x is better than y"", that's pointless",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509734988 147818206,147826615,2017-11-03 18:50:32,">>147825910 >corporations are attacking nationalism wherever they find it >but if we let them rule they will suddenly become ultra-nationalist",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1509735032 147818206,147826703,2017-11-03 18:51:10,">>147826503 I am a anarchist. Nations are a natural part of humanity. I have no interest in breaking up nations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509735070 147818206,147826755,2017-11-03 18:51:33,">>147826503 >implying libertarianism is significantly different from ancap",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1509735093 147818206,147826849,2017-11-03 18:52:19,">>147818206 Have you guys heard of Bitbutter? It's a small Libertarian channel that makes great content. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFoXyFmmGBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s",,Anonymous,Don_6257dd_5957449.jpg,kYqhd2ApGDvg8D7jGfLc2g==,US,,1509735139 147818206,147826943,2017-11-03 18:53:07,">>147826520 I understand your position completely. You should be publicly hanged. You are a threat to liberty. Get the fuck out of here.",,Anonymous,Race2.png,/LKNdQt4/TevYTtteG1hSQ==,US,,1509735187 147818206,147827131,2017-11-03 18:54:49,">>147826615 Corporations are leftist due to anti-discriminaton laws in first world contries, It is illegal to have an all white corporation. see: civil rights Again the state is the route of the problem, they prevent corporations from forming that are a threat to the state.",,Anonymous,Govt=Dindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1509735289 147818206,147827813,2017-11-03 19:00:26,">>147827131 No you dumb fuck. Corporations are leftist because it is more profitable for them to be leftist. It's not profitable for them anymore to restrain themselves to only the white-american market. The end goal of corporations is to destroy as much trade barriers as possible (borders are the largest trade barrier). Who do you think was behind the progressive niggerification of our societies in the last couple of decades? Some ragtag communist ideologues? lol",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1509735626 147818206,147828168,2017-11-03 19:03:31,">>147827813 niggers only chimp the way they do because jews like Lyor Cohen have corrupted their culture and they do not value or receive any education.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509735811 147818206,147828183,2017-11-03 19:03:39,">>147826523 pointing out one but not the other gives the wrong impression. why would you phrase it as 'women are inferior in many respects to men' rather than 'women and men differ in many respects'? the first one gives a one-sided and hurtful impression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509735819 147818206,147828288,2017-11-03 19:04:28,">>147826943 >freedom-loving people who disagree with my methods should be hanged 'libertarians' everyone",,Anonymous,,,,,1509735868 147818206,147828403,2017-11-03 19:05:21,">>147827813 A corporations goal is to provide a service, even if that service is keeping niggers out of your gated community. Are you denying the implications of The Civil Rights And Equal Employment Opportunity act are in effect? prove me wrong. Open an explicitly whites only company. seee if the law allows that in your shitty superstate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509735921 147818206,147828499,2017-11-03 19:06:02,">>147828168 >niggers only chimp the way they do because whites let them. But this wasn't the point",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1509735962 147818206,147828626,2017-11-03 19:06:53,">>147828288 You're a threat to libery, you advocate for global and super-states, you're a statist, not a ""freedom loving person"" get fucked globalist scum.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509736013 147818206,147829242,2017-11-03 19:11:54,">>147828626 >implying hundreds of individual serfdoms is superior",,Anonymous,,,,,1509736314 147818206,147829567,2017-11-03 19:14:33,">>147820774 >But anarchy is just as bad as communism and direct democracy Substantiate this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509736473 147818206,147829657,2017-11-03 19:15:18,">>147829242 >implying having a single slave master monopolist state that rules over the whole planet has anything to do with Individual liberty or property rights delete your post, Soros.",,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,US,,1509736518 147818206,147829697,2017-11-03 19:15:42,">>147828183 of course it could have been phrased better, but this isn't a piece of propaganda meant to change minds, just some dude voicing his opinion that got screen capped ""overall women are better suited to a post industrial age"" is bullshit by the way, they're still more emotional, too empathetic, and less intelligent overall and this is extremely conspicuous in the tech area, which is unsurprisingly the sector where women are most ""concerned"" with diversity ""post industrial"" is a fucking joke in itself and it's no surprise an EU meme flag faggot would use it unironically",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509736542 147818206,147829993,2017-11-03 19:18:09,">>147829657 >not being able to understand how much it does",,Anonymous,dictators.jpg,D3SGYyyrhlV5Ja6Q+10kww==,,,1509736689 147818206,147830461,2017-11-03 19:22:02,">>147823529 >strongly believe in government as my American founders intended Good intentions are not enough to prevent the inevitable. Democracy results in decivilization and capital consumption. Government results in more government. The actual history of the United States demonstrates this. What better example do you need to show that the system is inherently unworkable?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509736922 147818206,147830520,2017-11-03 19:22:32,">>147829993 left on shitposting flag >>147829697 >they're still more emotional, too empathetic Can be useful. A lot of jobs in the future are going to depend on teamwork and the 'human touch'. >less intelligent overall That's a fringe opinion. Most common expert opinions says equal overall intelligence, with differing distributions >this is extremely conspicuous in the tech area That might be one career where men have the advantage (though I'm not sure how important teamwork is) I just don't think tech is that important an industry in terms of number of people employed",,Anonymous,,,,,1509736952 147818206,147830701,2017-11-03 19:24:07,">>147830461 Democracies have the most capital stock, most civilised people, best human rights and greatest political freedom. You are nothing more to me than just another ideologue",,Anonymous,,,,,1509737047 147818206,147831464,2017-11-03 19:31:04,">>147825789 Right to work is about not having to join a union to work, it is 100% libertarian. How do you not know about this? You have a libertarian flag and don't even know about current libertarian issues because you're a larping jackass",,Anonymous,,,,,1509737464 147818206,147831619,2017-11-03 19:32:24,">>147830701 >most capital stock Inherent in the democratic process is the incentive toward short-term thinking. The very fact that ""public"" property exists, and temporary stewards are elected to control private resources in order to fund it and make decisions about it, means that on the whole, promises of bigger gibs and shorter time frames tends to win elections. This means that the concepts of capital investment and long-term planning are not as competitive. It is only through private ownership that people demonstrate a strong motivation to plan ahead and increase wealth carefully. >most civilized people Back in the time of absolute monarchies, the most civilized people still happened to be in the same geographic location as they are now. Since you're on this board, I'll let you figure out why that was. >best human rights Hardly. There are infinite regulations now that restrict the right to property, speech, conduct, etc. Far more than a century ago, and more still than two centuries. >political freedom That's why you go to prison if you deny the Holocaust in France, or wave Nazi flags in Germany?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509737544 147818206,147831653,2017-11-03 19:32:39,">>147828499 yeah i know, just provoking the intuitive discussion on niggers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509737559 147818206,147832042,2017-11-03 19:36:23,">>147829993 >implying Lukashenka is bad or a dictator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sqMXmQA7XQ Babushka knows.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509737783 147818206,147832216,2017-11-03 19:37:56,">>147830520 >Can be useful. A lot of jobs in the future are going to depend on teamwork and the 'human touch'. women already gravitate towards those jobs, the problem is that they're forced into jobs that don't fit their average psych profiles > Most common expert opinions says equal overall intelligence, with differing distributions experts who say this are merely trying to get sympathy points, do you know what happens to scientists who dare to be biologically realists ? look up the guy who discovered the DNA double helix. it's a bell curve, like race, and the female one is simply inferior >That might be one career where men have the advantage men have the advantage in most careers",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509737876 147818206,147832264,2017-11-03 19:38:25,">>147830701 >Democracies have the most capital stock, most civilized people, best human rights and greatest political freedom Wow, so my country is heaven on earth basically. How I never realize that? Oh I remember why, is because it isn't.",,Anonymous,1509409178919.gif,BGn6WMptin0FHRbpXW2iug==,CO,,1509737905 147818206,147832344,2017-11-03 19:39:05,">>147831619 >This means that the concepts of capital investment and long-term planning are not as competitive. No, having one reason they could be less competitive doesn't mean you can simply assert that democracy is less competitive than anything else. >Back in the time of absolute monarchies, the most civilized people still happened to be in the same geographic location as they are now. But they were certainly less civilised than they are now. And I would even say it's generally true than in the rest of the world democracy has been associated with more civilisation. >Hardly. There are infinite regulations now that restrict the right to property, speech, conduct, etc. Far more than a century ago, and more still than two centuries. Wait until you see the condition in non-democracies. >That's why you go to prison if you deny the Holocaust in France, or wave Nazi flags in Germany? Because political freedom is not *absolute* in those countries. It doesn't follow that democracy doesn't have more political freedom than other systems. Would I be allowed to be a Nazi in Ancapistan? Just not a communist? Seems interesting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509737945 147818206,147832418,2017-11-03 19:39:48,">>147832344 fugg lol :DD",,Anonymous,,,,,1509737988 147818206,147832591,2017-11-03 19:41:28,">>147832042 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2XMe1hk-xg",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509738088 147818206,147832844,2017-11-03 19:43:52,">>147832216 >experts who say this are merely trying to get sympathy points So you just deny science that disagrees with what you think is true, but the problem is the majority of scientists being biased. Okay",,Anonymous,women university facts.png,Wr0OHb+docuOQep9kvDU4A==,,,1509738232 147818206,147833055,2017-11-03 19:45:40,">>147832844 if you actually think that [% that goes to college] reflects intelligence i need you to kill yourself right now",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509738340 147818206,147833213,2017-11-03 19:46:58,Daily reminder that free market capitalism is the only form of nonviolent eugenics,,Anonymous,1503765971973.png,xAbezDcPDs3OIIOxezht1A==,,,1509738418 147818206,147834102,2017-11-03 19:53:43,">>147832344 >doesn't mean you can simply assert that democracy is less competitive than anything else. That absolute monarchy, where all the land is privately owned and therefore subject to the incentive of long term capital investment? Yes, I can, because it's right there in the definition. >Wait until you see the condition in non-democracies Like I said, any extant non democracies were shitty before democracy became a thing in the west. The reason for this is not simply their system of government. >It doesn't follow that democracy doesn't have more political freedom than other systems Granted. It has inherently less than anarchism, but compared to other statist systems there is no reason it can't have more political freedoms in principle. However, when compared to earlier monarchical Europe, the rise of nationalism and mass democracy in the early 20th century had comparatively fewer political freedoms, particularly in light of two world wars. >Would I be allowed to be a Nazi in Ancapistan? You would be allowed to be whatever the fuck you want, as long as you're on your property, or are permitted by the property owner to express those views. Could even be a meme-tier ""communist"" if you want. However, any ideology that promotes the overthrow of ancap society would not likely be welcome. And any such ideologues who threaten to enact their ideals would likely find themselves McNuked.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509738823 147818206,147834537,2017-11-03 19:57:12,">>147834102 >That absolute monarchy, where all the land is privately owned and therefore subject to the incentive of long term capital investment? Yes, I can, because it's right there in the definition. No you can't, because your homosexual praxeological method doesn't account for the numerous complexities of the real world. No one takes you seriously whatsoever. >Like I said, any extant non democracies were shitty before democracy became a thing in the west. Makes you think. >However, when compared to earlier monarchical Europe, the rise of nationalism and mass democracy in the early 20th century had comparatively fewer political freedoms, particularly in light of two world wars. You could be killed for having the wrong religion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509739032 147818206,147834863,2017-11-03 20:00:01,">>147826849 These videos are fantastic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509739201 147818206,147834976,2017-11-03 20:00:54,">>147833055 Of course not, but it seems to me a stronger indicator that men are not more intelligent at least in any meaningful way. A more relevant factor is that girls concentrate harder and work better than boys, especially in their teenage years.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509739254 147818206,147835589,2017-11-03 20:06:26,">>147834537 >No one takes you seriously whatsoever. Stunning rebuttal. >Makes you think You should try it. I know it's harder than parroting whatever egalitarian nonsense usually gets you le epic upboats, but it'll do you good. >You could be killed for having the wrong religion. You mean, exactly like in Rome back in the day? That was a democratic republic. It's almost as if it's not only the system of government that determines how a society acts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509739586 147818206,147836263,2017-11-03 20:12:20,">>147834976 you don't think it has anything to do with the fact that women are generally pampered, get diversity enrollment, are a million times quieter than guys, are positively seen by teachers, that a lot of guys go through the military or enter the workforce earlier in their lives ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509739940 147818206,147836423,2017-11-03 20:13:38,">>147823128 >To do things you want to do from the outset, you need a strong state. >what are militias >what are private defense businesses",,Anonymous,ancap.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1509740018 147818206,147837913,2017-11-03 20:25:43,">>147826703 Than you're one of a few that I've talked to, but if I talk to you long enough I'll probably get to hate you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509740743 147818206,147837929,2017-11-03 20:25:48,">>147835589 >Stunning rebuttal. That wasn't my rebuttal, pleb. >You should try it. I know it's harder than parroting whatever egalitarian nonsense usually gets you le epic upboats, but it'll do you good. As usual the unearned intellectual arrogance of libertarians. You're exactly the same as a reddit atheist; I don't know why you would imply that I'm a redditor just because I don't have a libertarian meme ideology. >You mean, exactly like in Rome back in the day? That was a democratic republic. No it wasn't, it was an Empire. I doubt they had any significant level of popular democracy for long. The example of Rome proves the savagery of non-democratic regimes far more. Also >one '''democratic'' example somehow more significant than the numerous religious regimes around the world still existing >>147836263 >women are generally pampered, get diversity enrollment, are a million times quieter than guys, are positively seen by teachers, that a lot of guys go through the military or enter the workforce earlier in their lives ? >b-but my feelings disagree!!!111 Get some facts. From what I'm reading universities are increasingly discriminating against *women* to retain gender parity. And there is evidence that teachers in fact are less positive towards female students.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509740748 147818206,147838010,2017-11-03 20:26:28,">>147826755 That's correct, I'm a Jefferson right-libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509740788 147818206,147838149,2017-11-03 20:27:35,"libertarian left > libertarian right cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509740855 147818206,147838199,2017-11-03 20:27:59,">>147837929 i love the gentle screech of a EU bug man submitting itself",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509740879 147818206,147838452,2017-11-03 20:30:02,">>147838199 I'll pop any blue helmet that steps onto my land.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509741002 147818206,147840231,2017-11-03 20:44:07,">>147838149 >libertarian >left Nice try",,Anonymous,bang bang.jpg,H0UrZ5X5FlahOH1OoJRcXw==,,,1509741847 147818206,147840518,2017-11-03 20:46:20,">>147831464 I'm a leaf so I don't know jack shit about what's going on in America",,Anonymous,,,,,1509741980 147818206,147840616,2017-11-03 20:47:14,">>147838199 I'm not, in fact, screeching, just asking you to provide facts. If you don't have any evidence for what you claim, then admit that you could be wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509742034 147818206,147840679,2017-11-03 20:47:46,">>147840231 ignore that obvious troll",,Anonymous,,,,,1509742066 147818206,147841987,2017-11-03 20:58:48,What do you guys think of this as a /lrg/ flag?,,Anonymous,PicsArt_09-19-09.05.27.jpg,Ho5R+Pol5O+kfCDGGwkctw==,US,,1509742728 147818206,147842724,2017-11-03 21:04:40,">>147841987 yes",,Anonymous,,,,,1509743080 147818206,147842812,2017-11-03 21:05:19,,,Anonymous,22780592_1487761067958874_2181697244505123578_n.png.jpg,9H8B9+fygl/4xvRLRaDM8Q==,US,,1509743119 147818206,147843234,2017-11-03 21:08:47,">>147842812 perfect",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509743327 147818206,147843943,2017-11-03 21:14:19,">>147837929 >I doubt they had any significant level of popular democracy for long. Rome was a republic for around 500 years, you fuckwit. Athenian and Spartan democracy featured plenty of savagery as well, people killed for expressing the wrong ideas, etc. Did you forget the French Revolution, and its aftermath? Did you forget the Russian Revolution, and its aftermath? All democracies. As I said twice already, it is not merely the system of government that determines how a society acts. And as time goes on, and technology and education improves, societies change. The shittiest despotic state today is still preferable than living in the most progressive ancient society. Anyway, feel free to offer actual arguments for your position.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509743659 147818206,147844226,2017-11-03 21:16:39,">>147831464 >Right to work is about not having to join a union to work, it is 100% libertarian. How do you not know about this? In other words, making unions weaker and depressing wages even more. How do you not know about this?",,Anonymous,econ-pol-inst-inequality1.png,s6e/G93kRWS82defJAjxCQ==,,,1509743799 147818206,147845258,2017-11-03 21:24:49,">>147823763 Name one buzzword in that post",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509744289 147818206,147845371,2017-11-03 21:25:43,">>147844226 >worried about income going to a smaller group of people >defending unions M8, you realize that unions inflate prices in exchange for reduced employment, right? The precise effect of unionization is to do what you're complaining about. It's just that you want it to happen to a different group of people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509744343 147818206,147845391,2017-11-03 21:25:49,">>147843943 >republic = democracy",,Anonymous,smol brain.png,owl6MwEfQp8fqUh4rZmfnA==,GB,,1509744349 147818206,147845477,2017-11-03 21:26:26,Can someone please post a new Discord invite?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509744386 147818206,147845575,2017-11-03 21:27:15,">>147840616 my evidence is in both theories we've advanced >me says : girls are less smart on average >you says : girls are as smart on average (but they attend college more than dudes because they're smarter though) start thinking logically you retard",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509744435 147818206,147845666,2017-11-03 21:27:52,">>147845391 republic [ri-puhb-lik] noun a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them. Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509744472 147818206,147845727,2017-11-03 21:28:21,">>147844226 >unions >representative of workers >not theft Jews for union dues Oyest of vey.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509744501 147818206,147846208,2017-11-03 21:32:06,">>147818206 >libertarian >right wing Choose one and only one you filthy crypto-lefty",,Anonymous,1508557766654.jpg,MmjApSF6L80EjObd1qUb9g==,,,1509744726 147818206,147846451,2017-11-03 21:33:55,>>147846208,,Anonymous,1509064481551.jpg,szb8yKhfkaeox4wsA5QFKQ==,US,,1509744835 147818206,147846569,2017-11-03 21:34:59,">>147845666 That is not the definition. According to that neither the First French Republic nor the USSR nor Cuba are Republics. Republic refers to literally any political regime other than monarchy. Google aside.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509744899 147818206,147846670,2017-11-03 21:35:58,>>147846451,,Anonymous,1509417819133.jpg,wU1B6Y0YDYsPtE4YqL+8og==,CA,,1509744958 147818206,147846832,2017-11-03 21:37:24,">>147846208 OK Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509745044 147818206,147846886,2017-11-03 21:37:44,yfw when you call the USSR a democracy,,Anonymous,hurr.jpg,+QHbkLCIyk7IThhjLvU6Rw==,GB,,1509745064 147818206,147846958,2017-11-03 21:38:19,">>147845666 Republic is not a democracy, you dimwitted cunt. North Korea is a republic, do you think it's also a democracy? You fucking retard, of course someone completely oblivious of basic political definitions is a ancap",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1509745099 147818206,147847166,2017-11-03 21:40:00,">>147846208 >socialist >right wing",,Anonymous,b2c.png,DIoQJwQPWaTshnlsA43arQ==,CO,,1509745200 147818206,147847368,2017-11-03 21:41:31,">>147845371 Notice how the periods of American prosperity coincided with the periods when unions were strong. Unions and trade guilds have been a part of western civilzation for a long time, but that's impossibru because its not free market. >>147845727 Small amount of union dues and you get much higher wages and job security as a result. Collectively bargaining has a big impact on improving working conditions.",,Anonymous,Anatomy_of_a_Union_Buster2.jpg,icp2mRbv4PPzL28rH/MBTw==,,,1509745291 147818206,147847486,2017-11-03 21:42:19,">>147846208 >National (((Socialist))) >right-wing",,Anonymous,1495903017806.jpg,yCfnjOgEQjmoHPGPrT1rug==,ES,,1509745339 147818206,147847609,2017-11-03 21:43:15,">>147847368 I've always found it baffling that working class people opposed unions.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1509745395 147818206,147848439,2017-11-03 21:49:57,">>147847368 > Notice how the periods of American prosperity coincided with the periods when unions were strong. Unions and trade guilds have been a part of western civilzation for a long time, Correlation does not equal causation. Also nice equivocation.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509745797 147818206,147848995,2017-11-03 21:54:29,"Serious question: We already have one /ptg/ thread up, why do we need another one spamming the board? Mods, prune this thread and send these lolbergterian cucks back to their original containment thread with all the other t_donalders who are spineless kekistani losers who think they are edgy with this shit when the lolbergterian party died long ago with Ron Paul, and anyone propagating this brain dead, naive, idealistic '''philosophy''' in the current year is too stupid to function or 14 years old. >Wow look at me I'm libertarian please let in all the based Jamal's and Abdullahs so they can fuck my wife while the Jews forge monopolies on everything. Who cares if America is BLACKED right based pedes??? Libertarians share as much blame as liberals for all of today's problems. No amount of mental gymnastics will make this any less true.",,Anonymous,3cf8b0791d6dd961f0c5ef04266ae8a912e01daa01a89bc1ef1ab276fe8255d9.jpg,GNS2VKnEHYVHlkyN1W6+pQ==,US,,1509746069 147818206,147849387,2017-11-03 21:57:46,">>147848995 >We already have one /ptg/ thread up There's actually two /ptg/ threads up right now, and this isn't a /ptg/ thread.",,Anonymous,1509070781802.jpg,yYd0XuEndmHOodjLfWP7Nw==,,,1509746266 147818206,147849717,2017-11-03 22:00:11,">>147820352 Don't feel too bad a hundred or so replies isn't that bad, and your not subsisting of of bait and hate replies like communist/socialist threads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509746411 147818206,147850288,2017-11-03 22:05:01,">>147846569 >the actual dictionary definition is wrong Ok",,Anonymous,,,,,1509746701 147818206,147850699,2017-11-03 22:08:06,">>147846958 >North Korea is a republic, do you think it's also a democracy? Yes. They vote.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509746886 147818206,147850910,2017-11-03 22:09:38,">>147849387 >This isn't a /ptg/ thread >Literally a thread populated by ptg and t_donald kekistani losers who are no older than 14 pretending to be intellectuals while unable to confront the reality of such weak philosophy I don't even have a problem with notions libertarianism. I do have a problem with people too stupid to understand how idealistic, impractical, and unenforceable this crap is. Libertarianism can only be achieved in a white ethno state and that's entirely impossible in today's world. This is most definitely a ptg tier thread.",,Anonymous,1493478541234.jpg,KGghXi5n7U36d+cvH6hbUg==,US,,1509746978 147818206,147851098,2017-11-03 22:11:08,">>147843943 >The shittiest despotic state today is still preferable than living in the most progressive ancient society. New frontiers in bullshit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509747068 147818206,147851509,2017-11-03 22:14:06,">>147848439 >Correlation does not equal causation. What causative evidence do libertarians have that unions are bad for the economy and society? Surely since they've worked to dismantle them over the past few decades, they must have based this policy decision on concrete evidence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If44qfiEU5E",,Anonymous,,,,,1509747246 147818206,147851845,2017-11-03 22:16:39,">>147850910 So then what the hell kind of system do you want then?",,Anonymous,drone.jpg,h61b/GlyA7Dccnx2wIWlLQ==,,,1509747399 147818206,147852053,2017-11-03 22:18:20,">>147851509 Libertarianism and market fundamentalism are only superficial political rhetoric. You're not going to find substantive answers from it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509747500 147818206,147852282,2017-11-03 22:20:15,">>147850288 >>147850699 lolberts",,Anonymous,,,,,1509747615 147818206,147852476,2017-11-03 22:21:45,">>147851845 Do you know where you are? Be honest: are you new?",,Anonymous,1505007154095.png,tCH+EtvHquMUQoAf2mXrFw==,US,,1509747705 147818206,147852632,2017-11-03 22:23:08,">>147852476 Well as you have said a white ethnostate is impossible so I'm wondering if you're some kind of globalist or commie.",,Anonymous,coolidge.jpg,Ems3iVabx06RxONS18ynDg==,,,1509747788 147912663,147912663,2017-11-04 10:40:27,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. A reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: DeBka RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) -http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - Seehttps://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >https://8 * h.net/anarchy",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1509652117159[1].png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,,,1509792027 147912663,147912764,2017-11-04 10:41:35,">>147912663 >reading list",,Anonymous,1509654513253[1].jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,,,1509792095 147912663,147912892,2017-11-04 10:42:50,">>147912663 >what we are",,Anonymous,1509653470908[1].png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1509792170 147912663,147913173,2017-11-04 10:46:02,,,Anonymous,1509679189512[1].png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1509792362 147964129,147964129,2017-11-04 17:36:21,"Motto of the day: We believe in the formal, not in the material. Thus, ethics trumps utilitarianism every time. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things libertarian - private system of government, natural law, laissez-faire economy, and sovereignity, as well as organisation, tactics, and long-term strategy. We encourage debate, so long as all parties recognise that property norms are inherent in each civil exchange between multiple consenting individuals. Communists explicitly reject property norms and as such will not be respected. Discord server: /sXwfD5K Pastebin link: pastebin.com/0rkTentN",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General - Fuck Utilitarians Edition,Anonymous,lrg header.png,DAo6xn5yvke1kVAw7+HlUQ==,SK,,1509816981 147964129,147964284,2017-11-04 17:37:24,bump,,Anonymous,PRForDummies.jpg,MCn/6JWN3t5ycuvRiadIyQ==,,,1509817044 147964129,147964287,2017-11-04 17:37:27,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1509817047 147964129,147964402,2017-11-04 17:38:19,,,Anonymous,ze (2).png,25gRT/DM9MglBHrfd4ALjg==,US,,1509817099 147964129,147964423,2017-11-04 17:38:22,"Frequent misconceptions: >What is the libertarian stance on open borders? A full privatisation of all property implies the owners' full right of exlusion or inclusion to their property only, being responsible for the accomodation, as well as legally for the good behaviour of their invitees, which automatically rules out inviting jihadis and other savages with no concepts of property norms into civilised lands in large numbers. As long as a state exists, however, closed borders (forced exclusion) are preferrable to open borders (forced integration), if for no other reason than there being fewer people within the reach of a State to be expropriated by it. >Is capitalism Jewish/degenerate? Capitalism is the natural order of things, most commonly used in regard to the economy. It is the lack of restrictions on grounds other than natural law, which must be equally appliable to everyone. Deviation from this model ultimately means higher time preference rates among people, meaning immediate satisfaction is preferred over long-term investment, which in turn leads to less interest in production and more interest in leisure activities, meaning general poverty. This goes to show that socialism, not capitalism, works best for the Jewish interest of turning the gentiles into hedonistic cattle. >Who would build the roads? Scarcity of space implies the need for people and goods to move from point A to point B. Generally, this means that roads must be established, as land transport remains one of the most heavily used modes of transportation. There is a market for roads in any society, the state just holds a monopoly over it. >What is the libertarian position on usury? The main problem with interest loan provision is the historical monopoly the highly tribalistic Jewish communities have held over it, often due to state intervention (which was comparatively extremely rare in those times).",,Anonymous,cantwell milk.png,Bg6G5W0vPD41mjU0jxTINg==,SK,,1509817102 147964129,147964441,2017-11-04 17:38:33,,,Anonymous,ze (1).png,+JbUIO5T16wVZE3vCuUX7w==,,,1509817113 147964129,147964462,2017-11-04 17:38:44,,,Anonymous,ze (3).png,UT6qfmHvOqxrv9z9VWEBdw==,,,1509817124 147964129,147964465,2017-11-04 17:38:44,"Recommended reading: BOOKS >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Theory of Socialism and Capitalism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant ARTICLES >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property by Llewellyn Rockwell - mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property >A Realistic Libertarianism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ >For A New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Nations by Consent by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Race! That Murray Book by Murray Rothbard - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0",,Anonymous,ansnekistan.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,SK,,1509817124 147964129,147964492,2017-11-04 17:38:55,">>147964284 >>147964129 ump this sit",,Anonymous,5 stages of libertarian.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,,,1509817135 147964129,147964578,2017-11-04 17:39:35,"Media: PODCASTS/VIDEOS >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods Show >radicalagenda.com - Radical Agenda / Letters from a Charlottesville Jail / Cantwell & Kessler / LIVE from Seg! (Christopher Cantwell) >youtube.com/stefbot - Steben Bolynu :DD >youtube.com/channel/UCR7pD2JAMKUx4LH93YWjaXw - morrakiu.com - Morrakiu >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus ARTICLES >mises.org - Mises Institute >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society",,Anonymous,kantian bf.png,GFsKg/EnN1H23GyjHvQXbQ==,SK,,1509817175 147964129,147964599,2017-11-04 17:39:50,,,Anonymous,Race2.png,/LKNdQt4/TevYTtteG1hSQ==,,,1509817190 147964129,147964631,2017-11-04 17:40:02,"Videos/podcasts: >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >For a New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc >Radical Agenda by Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >The War on Terror by Augustus Sol Invictus - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U >The Leftist Invasion of Libertarianism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHv9NyeS3s0 >Attempts To Reach The Left: An Unmitigated Disaster by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQBJPZKR28 >Individualism and Group Interests by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5eQ5tEoRk >The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM >In Defence of Capitalism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiJGDShHJg",,Anonymous,bane questions nap.jpg,lRo8KsG7ghB11vqHABBdOw==,SK,,1509817202 147964129,147964722,2017-11-04 17:40:44,">>147964129 Smash cultural Marxism, smash degeneracy, and smash the state.",,Anonymous,rwp2.png,/RnReb6+CV8bEYJeEW29mQ==,,,1509817244 147964129,147964734,2017-11-04 17:40:49,">>147964129 lets scrap MLK JR day. FUck this degenerate nigger!",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-11-05 at 5.14.33 AM.png,rMb2EEwj5zpnV3jcHQLBqQ==,,,1509817249 147964129,147964950,2017-11-04 17:42:19,">>147964599 >tfw you'll never see a Jew speak favourably about David Duke ever again >""Well, they finally got David Duke. But he sure scared the bejesus out of them. It took a massive campaign of hysteria, of fear and hate, orchestrated by all wings of the Ruling Elite, from Official right to left, from President Bush and the official Republican Party through the New York-Washington-run national media through the local elites and down to local left-wing activists. It took a massive scare campaign, not only invoking the old bogey images of the Klan and Hitler, but also, more concretely, a virtual threat to boycott Louisiana, to pull out tourists and conventions, to lose jobs by businesses leaving the state."" - Murray Rothbard, Essays of Murray N. Rothbard, Right-Wing Populism",,Anonymous,rothbard state.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,SK,,1509817339 147964129,147965130,2017-11-04 17:43:43,">>147964423 >>What is the libertarian stance on open borders? >A full privatisation of all property implies the owners' full right of exlusion or inclusion to their property only, being responsible for the accomodation, as well as legally for the good behaviour of their invitees, which automatically rules out inviting jihadis and other savages with no concepts of property norms into civilised lands in large numbers. As long as a state exists, however, closed borders (forced exclusion) are preferrable to open borders (forced integration), if for no other reason than there being fewer people within the reach of a State to be expropriated by it. This makes no sense. First, since when does allowing a bad person onto your property imply legal responsibility for the actions of said bad person? That's the same leftist logic that says gun owners should be charged with murder when a nigger steals their gun to kill someone. Second, how are open borders forced integration? If Jose can find work, great, if he can't, he'll leave on his own. Third, that last point is insane. You're saying the state should make laws should to reduce the number of people, in order to reduce the number of people that can potentially have their rights trampled by the state in the future? That's the insanity of an edgelord that wants to kill people to end suffering. You've really schadened my property here",,Anonymous,property schaden.png,XXhWgVSQte4o3JxuhJ80yQ==,,,1509817423 147964129,147965328,2017-11-04 17:45:22,">tfw I was ready to smash communist ""revolutionaries"" but instead I just got more faggy protests",,Anonymous,Crush.png,HQl3OeUH7jJVktLD9nJrwA==,,,1509817522 147964129,147965970,2017-11-04 17:50:10,">>147965130 You can't end the welfare state if thousands of Pacos are flooding in to your country and will inevitably vote for Democrats that will raise taxes and raise spending. If the border is not secured first, the state cannot possibly be dissolved, because third-world leftists will never stop flooding in. Open borders is government-sponsored immigration, alongside pro-immigrant programs, welfare for immigrants, and anti-discrimination laws that protect immigrants. All public property rightfully belongs to the taxpayers, and it is the duty of the state to act in a way that is most similar to a private property owner so long as it actually exists. It is perfectly reasonable to thus prevent immigrants from flooding in to the country and using public property that they did not pay for.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509817810 147964129,147966028,2017-11-04 17:50:36,>>147965130,,Anonymous,1491264440559.png,gE8J9/IZBrZF+KKFZ8/fDw==,,,1509817836 147964129,147966038,2017-11-04 17:50:43,">>147965130 A person whose weapon gets stolen by a nigger did not consent to their weapon being taken from them, in contrast to people who willingly invite others onto their property. In a fully private society, open borders do not exist. Only unclaimed land has open borders, and rules of homesteading apply further. This example of closed borders implies that a State still exists, and if that cannot be helped, it should be made to act like a market agent and exclude undesirables from its premises. I do not wish to kill people, it's just that if the state is not abolished yet, it should still be made to act like a property owner and turn away Squatemalans and other low quality people at the border, with force if necessary.",,Anonymous,koksal baba physical removal.png,sA43FcjuGHJGyGrwaWTRWA==,SK,,1509817843 147964129,147966231,2017-11-04 17:52:16,"I was really disappointed when garry johnson blew up at that guy for saying ""illegal immigrants"" it made the decision to vote for trump very easy. is the actual libertarian party just the people who dont take it seriously and then sjws in suits?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509817936 147964129,147966379,2017-11-04 17:53:16,">>147964129 There are no more arguments to be made",,Anonymous,Screenshot (66).png,EBqGGtCj0pEaFnkIk2Q7LA==,GB,,1509817996 147964129,147966457,2017-11-04 17:53:58,">>147966231 The Libertarian Party is completely lost. It is a left-libertarian cesspool of degeneracy and cultural Marxism. We must find alternatives.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818038 147964129,147966584,2017-11-04 17:54:50,">>147966379 Are you a libertarian or a fascist or what!??",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818090 147964129,147966629,2017-11-04 17:55:18,">>147966584 You'll have to find out Commie",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509818118 147964129,147966754,2017-11-04 17:56:18,">>147966584 I am whatever is necessary.",,Anonymous,Anarcho_Fascism.png,n+NGzfRFZA6DWtPff6bIAw==,,,1509818178 147964129,147966821,2017-11-04 17:56:53,">>147966584 I can be a fascist if you're into that kind of shit.",,Anonymous,hoppe libertarianism.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,SK,,1509818213 147964129,147966932,2017-11-04 17:57:50,">>147965970 If you can end the welfare state at all, the details don't matter. You're talking about practical ways of slowing leftist decay, I thought he was talking about ideals. Sure, some forms of statism can be used to prevent other worse forms, ok. Open borders don't mean all of those things. To me, it means free trade, specifically the free trade of labor. If Microsoft in Washington consents to Pajeet working for him, and Pajeet consents to working for Microsoft in Washington, whose right is it to forbid them from making an economic decision? >>147966028 Yeah no. I'm entirely anti-welfare, and that includes protectionist statist policies which only serve to help hypocritical white welfare leeches. >>147966038 A private person did not consent to the nigger on their property later infringing on another's property either. A private individual cannot ever be held responsible for the actions of another person, unless that other person *is* the property of another. The only reason people think they need a state to turn away niggers is because the state has so deeply entrenched the idea that the state owns a monopoly on force. The only thing preventing me from shooting undesirables that infringe on my property is the government. Shitskins wouldn't come here to rob if they knew they'd receive no welfare and if property owners would shoot them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818270 147964129,147967013,2017-11-04 17:58:24,">>147966457 im hoping trump reinvents the gop with the midterms, but what if it doesnt happen or doesnt happen quickly? The republican's brand of statism is just as repulsive to me. And well really trump isnt that much of a libertarian either. He's just a positive delta in that direction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509818304 147964129,147967055,2017-11-04 17:58:42,">>147966584 >>147966821 >getting baited by a fellow from the child soldier army Wait a minute, is anybody a real goy around here?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509818322 147964129,147967076,2017-11-04 17:58:52,">>147964129 Libertarianism is a coward’s ideology. It’s an attempt by white males to argue in their own interest by ideological means instead of arguing plainly for what’s in the interest of their own blood and culture like every other ethnic group does. Every libertarian ideal has been turned against them by their ideological opponents. To be a libertarian you have to believe in open borders and free trade (or make some Rube Goldberg argument about why it’s more libertarian to believe otherwise) despite the fact that this is dispossessing and impoverishing white males who make up 99.9999% of all the libertarians that ever were or ever will be. To be a libertarian means to choose liberty over survival because how can you be a libertarian if you let sanity trump laissez-faire? In the future, when the last libertarian is bludgeoned to death with the last copy of Atlas Shrugged by some black panther militia man, he’ll be bitching with his dying breath about violations of his property rights and voluntary agreements.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509818332 147964129,147967274,2017-11-04 18:00:30,">>147967076 >liberty over survival benfranklin.jpg Fuck off statist. In a libertarian society, no one is preventing you from exercising your culture or from making a lot of white babies. No one is preventing you from creating a white enclave with your fellow whites.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818430 147964129,147967314,2017-11-04 18:00:54,">>147966932 If you are anti-welfare, then you must oppose the flow of unskilled labor into the United States, because not all of those people are going to be able to get jobs. Skilled immigrants are fine.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818454 147964129,147967362,2017-11-04 18:01:14,">>147967076 >like every other ethnic group does. why would we want to be like every other ethnic group?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509818474 147964129,147967390,2017-11-04 18:01:29,">>147966932 You misunderstood me, I don't think both the nigger and the property owner of the nigger's lodging should be punished in the same way, I think that after the nigger was punished for his crime, the property owner should foot the bill of his removal from society.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509818489 147964129,147967530,2017-11-04 18:02:47,">>147967314 if there were no welfare they would just leave after not getting work. The problems with welfare and the problems with immigration are intrinsically linked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509818567 147964129,147967547,2017-11-04 18:02:54,">>147967076 >To be a libertarian you have to believe in open borders and free trade (or make some Rube Goldberg argument about why it’s more libertarian to believe otherwise) despite the fact that this is dispossessing and impoverishing white males who make up 99.9999% of all the libertarians that ever were or ever will be. Read even one post in this fucking thread and you'll see that we do not support open borders, and most of us aren't fans of Ayn Rand. Why can't retarded NEETsocs argue?",,Anonymous,lrgwall2.png,zMbuOtW/Xaoks/HNApbaBg==,,,1509818574 147964129,147967589,2017-11-04 18:03:14,">>147967076 >this wall of text I know your type, cuck. You obviously prefer utility to ethics, which makes you a lost cause. You're just mad because all you're fit for is being a human animal of sorts.",,Anonymous,hoppe free good vs pest vs malicious intent.png,nlOd0aD96iDkbfLfHX4/lA==,SK,,1509818594 147964129,147967604,2017-11-04 18:03:21,">>147967314 Based on what? Mexicans self-deported during the 2008 recession. Even sub-80 IQ shitskins understand basic economics; if they can do better elsewhere, they'll leave. Every successful ancap society, e.g. Kowloon Walled City or some of the Brazilian favelas, shows that economic productivity and employment skyrocket when all trade barriers are extinguished. >>147967390 >I think that after the nigger was punished for his crime, the property owner should foot the bill of his removal from society. A minor difference. You are not any kind of libertarian, you believe that people aren't responsible for their own actions, you may as well be Ralph Nader pissing on the grave of caveat emptor.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818601 147964129,147967637,2017-11-04 18:03:39,>liberals believing that they are right wing,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509818619 147964129,147967685,2017-11-04 18:04:06,">>147967637 >neo-FDR statists believing they are right-wing",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818646 147964129,147967757,2017-11-04 18:04:38,">>147967530 But we can't abolish welfare until we can make sure no more are coming. If we don't, they'll keep coming in. Every day the border is not secured, it becomes that much more difficult to abolish welfare. >>147967604 Do you actually believe you can open up the borders AND also vote libertarians into office?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818678 147964129,147967998,2017-11-04 18:06:30,">>147967757 >Do you actually believe you can open up the borders AND also vote libertarians into office? >libertarianism >democracy Pick one. The entire concept of democracy is a statist-populist spook. I support a constitutional state enforced by the citizens themselves, one unified behind the message of self-responsibility.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818790 147964129,147968147,2017-11-04 18:07:45,">>147967998 That's fucking great for you. Now, how are you actually going to accomplish that? The state exists right now. Democracy exists RIGHT NOW. It is the only strategy that exists RIGHT NOW. You idealists need to stop burying your heads into the sand.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818865 147964129,147968199,2017-11-04 18:08:11,">>147967757 yes I agree. Given we are in the society we are in the most expedient thing to do is to secure the borders, and probably also put a moratorium on immigration. Depending on what happens. Then we can clean our house in peace.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509818891 147964129,147968322,2017-11-04 18:09:07,"HOL UP *smacks lips* SO YOU BE SAYING *declines welfare check* WE *eats black market watermelon* WUZ *steals bitcoin wallet* HELICOPTER PILOTS N' SHEIT?!",,Anonymous,1499005576665.jpg,kpRYhL0x9L35bMqBjxlhwQ==,,,1509818947 147964129,147968385,2017-11-04 18:09:31,">>147967757 also i hate to say this but immigrants vote for bigger government. Rampant immigration is dissolving the political will to shrink the government, even in bipartisan ways.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509818971 147964129,147968394,2017-11-04 18:09:35,">>147968147 There's no fixing America or whatever country you come from via the democratic process. Great social change only comes when the institutions of power are dismantled and replaced, and democracy, especially a flawed two-party system like the USA's, are not capable of doing that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509818975 147964129,147968470,2017-11-04 18:10:07,">>147967604 The property owner was however responsible for his invitation into the covenant community, for which he must atone by paying for his expulsion.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509819007 147964129,147968577,2017-11-04 18:10:52,Could ancap only ever exist in a vacuum? Wouldn't neighboring countries try to invade ancapistan?,,Anonymous,question1.png,/O/4DGSAxpyv54GW6CqJbw==,US,,1509819052 147964129,147968722,2017-11-04 18:11:54,">>147968199 We must use the state to crush the criminals, the degenerates, and the leftists, in order to pave the way for the arrival of a libertarian social order. >>147968385 Why do you hate to say that? It's 100% true. Don't be ashamed of saying the truth. >>147968394 No, but it can help pave the way for a libertarian social order by voting in a right-wing populist who will actually pursue libertarian policies. >>147968577 Ancapistan would be protected. Not only would it be the ultimate tax haven, meaning that companies will try their best to protect it from being destroyed, but everyone would be armed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819114 147964129,147968788,2017-11-04 18:12:26,">>147968470 Nope, it has no bearing. If I'm a gun smithy and John buys one of my guns to shoot Sue, according to you and Hillary Clinton, I am now on the hook for Sue's death. >>147968577 The people would need to be well-armed and possess a desire to live independently of the state. To the extent that most humans are biologically designed to be collectivist, I suppose it would only work in a vacuum.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819146 147964129,147968819,2017-11-04 18:12:42,>>147966584,,Anonymous,crushantifa.jpg,Y9QyMvVTGAf467BJ4nvRUw==,US,,1509819162 147964129,147968825,2017-11-04 18:12:44,">>147968722 >companies will try their best to protect it from being destroyed How so?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509819164 147964129,147968868,2017-11-04 18:13:08,">>147968394 technology is the way to dismantle and replace the institutions of power, and the market is the river that carries it. Big tech companies are frothing at the mouths to infect their veins with state power and join the beast. But if the actual technology makes it cheaper and easier for new people to make competing services then we can simply use our wallets to ensure that when the state, as we know it, finally collapses it isnt replaced with all the same people but sitting in the board rooms of facebook and google.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509819188 147964129,147969122,2017-11-04 18:15:01,">>147968722 >No, but it can help pave the way for a libertarian social order by voting in a right-wing populist who will actually pursue libertarian policies. For Trump's response to Charlottesville alone, I'm going to vote for him in 2020 (unless he totally fucks up later). I do what I can to slow the rate at which things become bad, but there's only so much that can be done. >>147968868 I think you're talking about decentralized currency here, and while I don't exactly disagree, the government is still far too powerful. Technologies that are too dangerous to them can easily either be shut down or relegated to state-approved corporate monopolies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819301 147964129,147969133,2017-11-04 18:15:06,">>147967685 The idea that there are right-wing liberals and left-wing liberals is absurd. The labels ""right"" and ""left"" are meaningless if liberalism fits into both categories. As if all political theory is just dialectical liberalism. It's the world we live in, but I can't believe you bought it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509819306 147964129,147969222,2017-11-04 18:15:46,">>147968825 Because it's the ultimate tax haven. Companies would have a vested interest in protecting their earnings by protecting Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819346 147964129,147969299,2017-11-04 18:16:20,When will LRG make an official gab?,,Anonymous,hoppelrg.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1509819380 147964129,147969397,2017-11-04 18:17:14,">>147969299 >monarchist sympathizer Disgusting",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819434 147964129,147969469,2017-11-04 18:17:52,">>147968722 >We must use the state to crush the criminals, the degenerates, and the leftists, in order to pave the way for the arrival of a libertarian social order. Well I dont agree with that. Enabling the state with that much power just makes it that much harder to take it away afterwards. It may be more complicated and have deferred results, but we have to ensure the free market can do its thing and social ills which give credibility to state power will naturally dissipate till they reach a point where individuals can take of them. The state has been using the same excuses to grow and grow forever, and we keep falling for it because the flavor of the excuse is tailored to our tastes. We have to eschew the easy solution for the hard one or else it will never end.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509819472 147964129,147969515,2017-11-04 18:18:16,">>147969299 Don't tell me you're one of those anti-Hoppe faggots.",,Anonymous,LRG.png,odibbxgK7OBD7UFBScvERg==,,,1509819496 147964129,147969521,2017-11-04 18:18:18,">>147968577 Ancap doesn't mean absolutely no society or community. You have to have borders to enforce private property.",,Anonymous,tribes.webm,otjmIXKGdw1wiUUGt/jqQQ==,,,1509819498 147964129,147969613,2017-11-04 18:18:57,">>147969299 I, The Founding Father of /lrg/ have a gab. https://gab.ai/Founding_Father",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819537 147964129,147969681,2017-11-04 18:19:23,">>147969222 >Companies would have a vested interest in protecting their earnings by protecting Ancapistan. I'm asking how companies would go about protecting their shit in ancapistan. I already know why, but how would they do it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509819563 147964129,147969765,2017-11-04 18:20:06,">>147969521 >You can't have anarcho-capitalism without government borders Are Hoppeans really this retarded?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819606 147964129,147969773,2017-11-04 18:20:08,">>147969681 Armed soldiers (or drones or whatever), how else?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819608 147964129,147969846,2017-11-04 18:20:44,"I also have a Gab. https://gab.ai/militantliberty >>147969469 If you don't suppress the violent criminals that want to tread on you, then they will tread on you. Tread first. >>147969681 I don't know exactly what would be the best kind of defense system. I'm not a company in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819644 147964129,147969877,2017-11-04 18:20:58,">>147964129 What do we do with the commies that came out for November 4th?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819658 147964129,147969919,2017-11-04 18:21:14,">>147969765 Private borders, retard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819674 147964129,147969927,2017-11-04 18:21:16,>>147969877,,Anonymous,Physical Removal.png,8b+gScOrDd6a/7qPtSlPvA==,,,1509819676 147964129,147970010,2017-11-04 18:21:49,">>147969765 >borders can only exist if the gubberment makes them what's it like being a brainlet?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819709 147964129,147970041,2017-11-04 18:22:06,">>147969919 Look at the post he responded to. He was implying government borders.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819726 147964129,147970154,2017-11-04 18:22:59,">>147967076 >private property >caring at all about boarders when there is no welfare niggers, both corporate and African >allowed to discriminate who you associate and do business with Its got to be the most efficient system of culling all the retards from the genepool.",,Anonymous,1f948bb4e6eec10201dfcc63436de652782a6cbd858c77a673e7ba779b673cd9.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,US,,1509819779 147964129,147970303,2017-11-04 18:24:04,">>147968470 Ultimately who's responsible in this case is determined by whatever contracts were signed. If the property owner is a member of a covenant then there must be rules he agreed to. If one of the rules is that he's responsible for the crimes committed by his guests then that's exactly how things are. The rules could have been written in anyway the interested parties wanted it to be, and that IS the rule within their community. If it wasnt between some kind of community members then the victims would have to sue and prove their case to an arbitrator they both agree to meet, and abide by. In this way we could treat every instance on a case by case basis. Maybe he invited the criminal in specifically so he could commit that crime! Sounds like he's responsible then. Maybe he let the criminal in under false pretenses? Sounds like he was a victim too. This is not a morally strait forward question with a simple universal answer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509819844 147964129,147970350,2017-11-04 18:24:25,">>147970041 You can't have a libertarian social order without FIRST having government borders.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819865 147964129,147970516,2017-11-04 18:25:41,">>147970350 We had private citizens, the minutemen, enforcing the USA-Mexico border in the early 2000s. GWB the cuck forbade them from doing it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509819941 147964129,147970536,2017-11-04 18:25:53,">>147969133 Right and left are economic, faggot. Have you never seen a political compass?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509819953 147964129,147970580,2017-11-04 18:26:12,">>147969877 its quite simple you see, we must CRUSH THE ANTI-FASCIST MOB",,Anonymous,CrushAntiFascists.png,2fOBEx/ENnghOA+st6trIA==,,,1509819972 147964129,147970784,2017-11-04 18:27:43,">>147970516 That's exactly what we need to bring back, then.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509820063 147964129,147970886,2017-11-04 18:28:30,">>147969122 >I think you're talking about decentralized currency here, and while I don't exactly disagree, the government is still far too powerful. Technologies that are too dangerous to them can easily either be shut down or relegated to state-approved corporate monopolies. im talking about all technology. Any technology that encroaches on a government institution. Like e-mail to the USPS, for an admittedly lame example. A speculative example would be some kind of security system that made a lot of police functions obsolete. Or what if there was a machine that could resurface roads with no expertise and was rentable from A-Toolshed? Not any one thing but everything in aggregate. If you just didnt HAVE to turn to the government to do the practical things in your life you need. Things you can't give up, and force you to vote for bigger government lest your favorite thing be the first thing taken away.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820110 147964129,147971013,2017-11-04 18:29:23,">>147970536 The Right values ORDER, and the left values EQUALITY. We are Right-Libertarians because we understand the true laissez-faire results in the natural hierarchical order of man.",,Anonymous,Cantwell.png,9PmJd7vEvs2EQGCN7Yw5sw==,,,1509820163 147964129,147971024,2017-11-04 18:29:27,">>147968722 >We must use the state to crush the criminals, the degenerates, and the leftists, in order to pave the way for the arrival of a libertarian social order. This is the same retarded shit communists say. You might get yourself a 4th Reich, but it isn't going to dismantle itself once all the leftists are dead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820167 147964129,147971113,2017-11-04 18:30:11,">>147969846 >If you don't suppress the violent criminals that want to tread on you, then they will tread on you. Tread first. yes just dont have the state do it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820211 147964129,147971140,2017-11-04 18:30:23,">>147964129 You first need to establish that ethics are objective",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509820223 147964129,147971230,2017-11-04 18:31:03,">>147971024 There's nothing wrong with a little free market fascism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509820263 147964129,147971248,2017-11-04 18:31:12,">>147964423 >natural law Spook. Establish an objective natural law kiddo.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509820272 147964129,147971309,2017-11-04 18:31:43,">>147969613 Im aware, but I figured we might have one just for LRG and a personal one for our founding father",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820303 147964129,147971319,2017-11-04 18:31:46,">>147970886 In general I agree that technology improves our ability to be free. However, it's not the solution on its own. A security system will never make police obsolete because private citizens can be sued out the ass by kikes, whereas the police are more or less immune. You can't resurface the roads without buying them first from the government, and good luck with that. >>147971230 >the state is the free-market wew",,Anonymous,,,,,1509820306 147964129,147971368,2017-11-04 18:32:08,">>147971230 ok this guy's just trolling.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820328 147964129,147971416,2017-11-04 18:32:27,">>147969765 >implying borders arent implied by the right of an individual to decide who exists on or moves through their property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820347 147964129,147971436,2017-11-04 18:32:36,">>147968788 Ehh, I don't think my knowledge reaches that far, in that case. Take it up with Hoppe, he was my original inspiration for that sentiment, I'm fairly certain he'd mentioned it in Democrussy somewhere in the second half.",,Anonymous,memri run things.png,UbYsj+52u2yN479t19fFxg==,SK,,1509820356 147964129,147971611,2017-11-04 18:33:54,">>147970536 >Right and left are economic, faggot. Have you never seen a political compass? >a political compass >the power of libertarian thought",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820434 147964129,147971631,2017-11-04 18:34:03,">>147971319 you're just describing the barriers to change. It's going to be difficult and take a long time. Having the police be immune to litigation isn't something to brag about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820443 147964129,147971655,2017-11-04 18:34:13,">>147971368 You think I am? The best way for us to pave the way for a libertarian social order is to establish a radically free market right-wing government that will protect liberty from leftist aggressors.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509820453 147964129,147971656,2017-11-04 18:34:14,">>147971416 You don't have the right to dictate who is allowed on my property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509820454 147964129,147971821,2017-11-04 18:35:26,">>147971309 Maybe i'll get an offical account rolling soon..",,Anonymous,,,,,1509820526 147964129,147972007,2017-11-04 18:36:41,">>147971013 Right is capitalism, Left is communism. Libertarian is south where we like to say ""fuck off"", North is Authoritarianism where they kill gays or kill the people that kill the gays, or Jews or whatever people want to kill that day.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820601 147964129,147972127,2017-11-04 18:37:31,">>147971655 >The best way for us to pave the way for a libertarian social order is to establish a radically free market right-wing government that will protect liberty from leftist aggressors. It's maybe the least bad way; it kinda worked in Singapore though they're still extremely authoritarian socially. It still doesn't yield a true libertarian society though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509820651 147964129,147972199,2017-11-04 18:38:04,">>147971248 Natural law is objective in that it can be arrived at through pure reason. Kant is an Ancap.",,Anonymous,kant cathegorical imperative.png,Imm/jhfIpjNBULAdyf+bEA==,SK,,1509820684 147964129,147972315,2017-11-04 18:38:52,">>147971013 >We are Right-Libertarians because we understand the true laissez-faire results in the natural hierarchical order of man. >>147972007 >Right is capitalism, Left is communism. Libertarian is south where we like to say ""fuck off"", North is Authoritarianism where they kill gays or kill the people that kill the gays, or Jews or whatever people want to kill that day. Dialectical liberalism in action. Fascinating",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820732 147964129,147972397,2017-11-04 18:39:25,"Reminder: There is no point to our ideology if all we ever do is read and sniffle at one another, shutting ourselves inside our private little corners only we populate, speaking only among ourselves and never reaching further into the world than to perhaps bring one or two into the corner with us. Our ideology is inherently a radical one in the world we live in. We are under constant attack, we are experiencing a constant violation, which if we ignore shall only grow more pervasive. To be anti-state within a state, to be for property in a world where defense of property rights is not the norm (in fact, thievery is the norm), NECESSITATES that we be extremist as possible in behavior. There is NO OTHER WAY in which for us to ever approach something close to existing as we believe we should, unless we are willing to LEAVE OUR CORNER, be violent, be loud, be radical, and be extreme OPENLY, IN DAYLIGHT. We cannot just argue semantics with each other, to do so is to truly accept the status quo and no longer remain libertarian or ancap. You may as well be a statist if you do nothing and promote nothing which will lead to eventual decentralization and the abolishment of the state.",,Anonymous,crushthemob.jpg,jOl0VYCbXFrjzUt1zhku1A==,,,1509820765 147964129,147972466,2017-11-04 18:39:59,">>147971611 >actually thinks left and right aren't economic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820799 147964129,147972534,2017-11-04 18:40:28,">>147972007 *according to popular political spectrum quizes on the internet* its a bit more complicated than that there are left wing capitalists and right wing socialists. Hans Hoppe is a right-wing Anarcho-Capitalist, and say, Bryan Caplan is a communist egalitarian soyboy ""anarcho-capitalist""",,Anonymous,,,,,1509820828 147964129,147972578,2017-11-04 18:40:46,">>147972199 >categorical imperative >ancap pick one",,Anonymous,Immanuel_Kant_painted_portrait.jpg,CvZX9sE7pNjVoPHBMyVETA==,DE,,1509820846 147964129,147972681,2017-11-04 18:41:32,"The answer is not more book clubs, it is blood.",,Anonymous,futurelookingbright.jpg,g7vcUvhscTVhSPu+22gtSg==,,,1509820892 147964129,147972824,2017-11-04 18:42:36,">>147972534 You know Hitler was a centrist right? Just authoritarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509820956 147964129,147972880,2017-11-04 18:43:00,">>147972397 >>147972681 stop being a brainlet FF and participate in the book club",,Anonymous,,,,,1509820980 147964129,147972926,2017-11-04 18:43:25,">>147972578 Picked both. Your move, statist.",,Anonymous,kant is ancap.png,JZfock0IH4PQScWbz8+RYA==,SK,,1509821005 147964129,147973173,2017-11-04 18:44:57,">>147972824 center right, but yeah, natsoc isn't very right wing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509821097 147964129,147973182,2017-11-04 18:45:00,"Im not FF and Im digesting A Theory slowly, fuck off",,Anonymous,snekfamily.png,yL3Fwp6Qi5lsEAFAYleWKw==,,,1509821100 147964129,147973591,2017-11-04 18:47:58,">>147973182 ok Ze",,Anonymous,,,,,1509821278 147964129,147973598,2017-11-04 18:47:59,">>147972466 the point of the political compass is that 1 dimensional political spectrums are too simple, but they even admit that a 2d graph still doesnt capture all of the nuance. It is an abbreviation. A way to generalize and organize.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509821279 147964129,147973874,2017-11-04 18:49:48,"I believe in laissez-faire capitalism as the basic framework of society, but I fully support ""social/non-capitalist"" institutions as long as they arise from voluntary cooperation and do not actively infringe on others property rights (best example would be Free Open-Source Software) Do I qualify as Right Libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1509821388 147964129,147973917,2017-11-04 18:50:10,">>147972397 Fucking this. Are we ENEMIES OF THE STATE or a bunch of fucking nerd spazoids who'll get nothing done and just bitch about it?",,Anonymous,mcv (4).png,XNeppskUUmSDNCdyyq4tSA==,,,1509821410 147964129,147974122,2017-11-04 18:51:41,">>147973874 they're called charities",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509821501 147964129,147974262,2017-11-04 18:52:37,">>147972926 the burgers picked both, look where we ended up. your move brainlet",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1509821557 147964129,147974318,2017-11-04 18:53:05,">>147973874 yes. nothing wrong with charities and non-profit organisations",,Anonymous,,,,,1509821585 147964129,147974461,2017-11-04 18:54:01,">>147972681 typical, not wanting to read books... no wonder you fell into a meme ideology",,Anonymous,,,,,1509821641 147964129,147975126,2017-11-04 18:58:48,"It's every libertarians responsibility to own gold, silver, bitcoin and some other crypto, so that when the fiat system collapses we can be in control of the world and not these authoritarian socialist/communist/Nazi maniacs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509821928 147964129,147975496,2017-11-04 19:01:32,">>147974461 m8, we're on your side.",,Anonymous,1501470516183.png,Yl4w1tH0enXOfROkuwU02A==,,,1509822092 147964129,147976744,2017-11-04 19:10:16,bump,,Anonymous,Cantwell.png,VpnCYw2spn7Jc+jhEHV3ng==,,,1509822616 147964129,147977168,2017-11-04 19:13:21,">>147974262 The burgers had rejected liberty in 1865 when the South was defeated.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509822801 147964129,147978604,2017-11-04 19:24:09,hayek is number one,,Anonymous,1492207377705.png,EKk8/rKo7zZAkeBvP7MO0Q==,SE,,1509823449 147964129,147978883,2017-11-04 19:26:17,">>147978604 Wrong, Rothbard ripped him a new asshole in the fourth part of Ethics of Liberty.",,Anonymous,rothbard against the streets.png,msBj1akRrj1tKh0RG8XjSQ==,SK,,1509823577 147964129,147979132,2017-11-04 19:28:09,">>147978604 m8",,Anonymous,Rothbard3.png,Ao8wXVVOFjOX7bswWhQDBA==,,,1509823689 147964129,147979161,2017-11-04 19:28:22,">>147971656 I never said I did. But people who want the same sorts in (or out) of the community will naturally come together and each will personally repel the unwanted. Or, if one person lets an undesirable in, the rest shall not respond so kindly. There will be ostracization of unwanted individuals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509823702 147964129,147979299,2017-11-04 19:29:22,">>147974461 I am reading though, and Ive read more than I ever have since becoming interested in anarcho-capitalist",,Anonymous,,,,,1509823762 147964129,147979944,2017-11-04 19:34:07,fuck off with your garbage ideology,,Anonymous,Autarchy.jpg,jL3nTGo54ypZFrhj3vNohA==,NL,,1509824047 147964129,147981579,2017-11-04 19:45:37,">>147964423 >Capitalism is the natural order of things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism The natural order of humanity is a sort of tribalistic collectivism where resources are shared throughout the tribe. This has been observed in many tribal societies.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509824737 147964129,147983916,2017-11-04 20:01:45,">>147981579 >communism >natural Is that why you faggots want to abolish things like family?",,Anonymous,commie literacy.png,Gw8D8bVIPmsAj5ClTRz/Gw==,SK,,1509825705 147964129,147986176,2017-11-04 20:18:30,">>147979944 impressive italian motorised infantry, faggot",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509826710 147964129,147986714,2017-11-04 20:22:34,">>147979944 t. economically/philosophically illiterate",,Anonymous,ankek.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,,,1509826954 147964129,147986839,2017-11-04 20:23:25,How do right-libertarians address the JQ?,,Anonymous,,,,,1509827005 147964129,147987411,2017-11-04 20:27:31,">>147986839 physical removal",,Anonymous,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1509827251 147964129,147987712,2017-11-04 20:29:37,">>147987411 What's the best starting place for Hoppe?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509827377 147964129,147988158,2017-11-04 20:32:51,">>147987712 Democracy: the god that failed is a good starter, or if you like a REAL intro read 'from aristocracy, to monarchy, to democracy' where hoppe logically reconstructs the world history of europe from his point of view",,Anonymous,,,,,1509827571 147964129,147988301,2017-11-04 20:33:43,">>147986839 Stop doing business with jews, stop subsidizing their corporations, don't even allow them onto your property. As you very well know, the government prohibits all of those things; boycotting jewish firms/causes is effectively illegal, tax-paid subsidies are given out to jewish-owned corporations with reckless abandon, and refusing to allow jews and niggers onto your property has been illegal since 1965. Hence, we believe that abolishing or at least shrinking the government is a suitable answer to the JQ. >>147987712 Best way to read any author is to read his works chronologically. Start with a Theory of Socialism and Capitalism and continue on from there. If you want to get a semi-quick low-down on his ethics, though, I recommend this lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4",,Anonymous,1508812655778.jpg,ulLRON/iWovst9NobbobyA==,,,1509827623 147964129,147988745,2017-11-04 20:36:52,">>147987712 also, i started with his youtube lecture though the mises institute's channel",,Anonymous,,,,,1509827812 148073687,148073687,2017-11-05 11:05:04,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FUCK COMMIE GUNS!,Anonymous,Ancap_Flag_Gun.png,D9ikNG520Gy30il4S2DOVQ==,,,1509879904 148073687,148073739,2017-11-05 11:05:32,Use this from now on. No more commie rilfes,,Anonymous,ANARCHY.png,xbXcO23rjGpUNaxEcLDEbw==,,,1509879932 148073687,148073780,2017-11-05 11:05:57,">Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property | Lew Rockwell https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property >Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal | Lew Rockwell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8 >Nations by Consent | Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Natural Order, the State, and the Immigration Problem | Hans-Hermann Hoppe https://mises.org/system/tdf/16_1_5.pdf?file=1&type=document >Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism, Invented by jews, ect ect.",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1509879957 148073687,148073897,2017-11-05 11:07:00,"The communists want to control every aspect of your life, dont let it happen.",,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1509880020 148073687,148073950,2017-11-05 11:07:27,bump,,Anonymous,A_I_R_B_O_R_N_E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1509880047 148073687,148074060,2017-11-05 11:08:28,"They want to steal your kids so they can be raised ""properly"" by the progressive state.",,Anonymous,staterunkids.png,Jk6bAOF3J7kp2BGceA3n4g==,,,1509880108 148073687,148074065,2017-11-05 11:08:28,"Creator of the new AR-15 flag here, Nomad Scavenger, coming in to post a few more variants for us to make use of.",,Anonymous,Ancap Flag Gun 2.png,CSZZoSZ0O9kuAFa7g3vSLw==,,,1509880108 148073687,148074119,2017-11-05 11:09:03,,,Anonymous,Ancap Flag Gun 2 Alt.png,VqXEhcS7yLfuS3qz/lgRFA==,,,1509880143 148073687,148074197,2017-11-05 11:09:44,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,musso2.jpg,mlwD5CZA1ivFa7YE1aMXCg==,NL,,1509880184 148073687,148074227,2017-11-05 11:10:02,,,Anonymous,Ancap Flag Gun 3.png,Wlqh2fM2afFv2pVsP3rzDA==,,,1509880202 148073687,148074265,2017-11-05 11:10:28,">>148074197 >posting a literal Anti-Fa tier faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509880228 148073687,148074319,2017-11-05 11:10:53,,,Anonymous,Ancap Flag Gun 3 alt.png,yfGIOGCqq4MXtmZMQ/mChA==,,,1509880253 148073687,148074342,2017-11-05 11:11:05,">>148074197 every single thread lmao",,Anonymous,,,,,1509880265 148073687,148074414,2017-11-05 11:11:43,And the logo itself.,,Anonymous,Ancap AR-15 3 alt.png,373xazuxFO57zRlWDS2mrQ==,,,1509880303 148073687,148074580,2017-11-05 11:13:14,,,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1509880394 148073687,148074600,2017-11-05 11:13:24,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1509880404 148073687,148074673,2017-11-05 11:14:08,"Smash the state, smash cultural Marxism, smash the crony collusion, smash degeneracy!",,Anonymous,rwp2.png,/RnReb6+CV8bEYJeEW29mQ==,,,1509880448 148073687,148074731,2017-11-05 11:14:36,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1509880476 148073687,148074872,2017-11-05 11:15:49,Pro-white libertarians are the only libertarians.,,Anonymous,1491264440559.png,gE8J9/IZBrZF+KKFZ8/fDw==,,,1509880549 148073687,148074881,2017-11-05 11:15:53,>when you are a left wing liberal/anarchist but you still want to hang with the cool kids so you become so delusional you call yourself right wing,,Anonymous,ea8320982371ab4a908a30f5c06d35b7.jpg,EySiIex5WkjnDUeRJA+8Bw==,NL,,1509880553 148073687,148074942,2017-11-05 11:16:26,">Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism, Invented by jews, ect ect. STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.",,Anonymous,The_Hoppean.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,,,1509880586 148073687,148074949,2017-11-05 11:16:28,">>148073687 we need the .svg file.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1509880588 148073687,148074952,2017-11-05 11:16:29,">>148074673 WHERE WILL THEY GO? WHO CARES?",,Anonymous,1fpxdl.jpg,uFBBoyRoKAixpHoyZowRHQ==,,,1509880589 148073687,148074997,2017-11-05 11:16:52,">>148074881 What makes you think we're left-wing?",,Anonymous,1492632225853.jpg,/t232HSL3+0envCceXRhEg==,,,1509880612 148073687,148075040,2017-11-05 11:17:16,">>148074881 >liberal >anarchist",,Anonymous,no_correlation.png,LK9x/5nMYL8McsHhUruYZQ==,GB,,1509880636 148073687,148075047,2017-11-05 11:17:17,">>148074197 Friendly reminder that you have become a meme in our circles. Enjoy your status as a laughing stock.",,Anonymous,Ancap Waifu 2.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1509880637 148073687,148075053,2017-11-05 11:17:21,">>148074952 INSTANT PUNISHMENT",,Anonymous,Cops.png,gD3vdesvgNLGpB+FYK0Qwg==,,,1509880641 148073687,148075188,2017-11-05 11:18:36,">>148074949 I got it for you here! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340566445887062016/376767031057580033/ANARCHY.svg",,Anonymous,,,,,1509880716 148073687,148075276,2017-11-05 11:19:21,>>148074673,,Anonymous,1509837977280.png,msBj1akRrj1tKh0RG8XjSQ==,,,1509880761 148073687,148075279,2017-11-05 11:19:21,">>148074580 Good quote. Saved",,Anonymous,4f21800487de28286c6186000f88bd6a.jpg,fSFp0JGw0xL8o/kPh94c8Q==,US,,1509880761 148073687,148075377,2017-11-05 11:20:14,,,Anonymous,1490914594067.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,,,1509880814 148073687,148075448,2017-11-05 11:20:51,">>148074673 populism might be the most plebian thing ever concieved >>148074997 the fact that you are a liberal. really the differences between communism and libertarianism are minimal if you think about it. their effects aswel are identical. pure materialism in whatever form should destroyed >>148075047 >our circles i have more respect for a bunch of sewer rats that for your ""circles""",,Anonymous,1494353962129.jpg,8prYvO9tC8LcK7yY0+L+FQ==,NL,,1509880851 148073687,148075764,2017-11-05 11:24:01,">>148075448 You're telling me there's no difference between people who believe in hierarchy, private property rights, and traditional values, and people who believe in collective ownership and pure egalitarianism? Mussolini was a leftist socialist. You are a leftist degenerate and you will be physically removed.",,Anonymous,1490625341072.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,,,1509881041 148073687,148075850,2017-11-05 11:24:45,">>148075448 Keep digging your own grave, laddie. We're having great fun seeing you pop up in every /lrg/ thread to spout the same shit over and over.",,Anonymous,mfw roads.jpg,lsLwaBHUbZBau6eQGkjBNA==,,,1509881085 148073687,148075903,2017-11-05 11:25:12,">>148074197 >libertarian >not inevitably producing a right-wing society",,Anonymous,hoppelrg.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1509881112 148073687,148075927,2017-11-05 11:25:24,">>148075448 >populism might be the most plebian thing ever concieved It's kinda in the definition, to be honest.",,Anonymous,bastiat-inator.jpg,gcZ3U62fw95lOCgU2XV9sg==,,,1509881124 148073687,148075935,2017-11-05 11:25:29,,,Anonymous,Race2.png,/LKNdQt4/TevYTtteG1hSQ==,,,1509881129 148073687,148076115,2017-11-05 11:26:57,"Fuck off, leftists.",,Anonymous,naturalorder.png,ilQ3ENyaaqcvjd2AF+kIpg==,,,1509881217 148073687,148076141,2017-11-05 11:27:13,">>148075927 Watch out for that popuism! Jeffery ""capitalism is about love"" Tucker told me that its nazism in his new book ""Right-Wing Collectivism: The Other Threat to Liberty""",,Anonymous,NatSoc.png,zNS96NxJTkpFNFzb0v2zvA==,,,1509881233 148073687,148076266,2017-11-05 11:28:22,">>148075448 Capitalism has never been about the value of material things or even a desire for them. Capitalism is only the free and contractual exchange of property. Why do statists think they have a monopoly on morality?",,Anonymous,propetarians.jpg,k/bOXQUNCCFq2SrxlXC1tQ==,,,1509881302 148073687,148076284,2017-11-05 11:28:36,">>148073687 You wanna team up and kill commies?",,Anonymous,HitlerPepe.jpg,wa60Jt9jMJKgnHRSrR4kuQ==,,,1509881316 148073687,148076331,2017-11-05 11:29:06,">>148076284 Absolutely.",,Anonymous,pol master race.png,KJvteDAeB6iZ9p0/CqQUKg==,,,1509881346 148073687,148076343,2017-11-05 11:29:11,">>148073687 Libertarian is already on the right by default.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509881351 148073687,148076354,2017-11-05 11:29:16,,,Anonymous,costimpliedbychoice(1).png,EOipyeLmwdLNJwFcpHLhlg==,,,1509881356 148073687,148076378,2017-11-05 11:29:30,bump,,Asynd,,,US,,1509881370 148073687,148076400,2017-11-05 11:29:44,,,Anonymous,bodyandtimescarcity(2).png,Y5uSyOgcQL6XoakCpEKHig==,,,1509881384 148073687,148076421,2017-11-05 11:29:55,">>148076331 Sounds like a plan.",,Anonymous,1491979213937.jpg,Y+XqFbV68UtUdBDE9Pk6qw==,,,1509881395 148073687,148076456,2017-11-05 11:30:13,">>148076284 Sure, and after we'll go our merry ways and leave eachother in peace, k?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509881413 148073687,148076458,2017-11-05 11:30:15,">>148076400 >>148076378 Hey there boss, when are we making a thread?",,Ze,ownershipmustbeestablished(3).png,upJL211PV06GsClBPJ7DYw==,,,1509881415 148073687,148076463,2017-11-05 11:30:18,">>148076343 I'd say so, but theres a lot of leftist calling themselves libertarians nowadays. its a measure against them getting a foothold in these thread.",,Anonymous,Cantwell.png,9PmJd7vEvs2EQGCN7Yw5sw==,,,1509881418 148073687,148076488,2017-11-05 11:30:26,">>148076284 >>148076331",,Anonymous,1493684397330.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,,,1509881426 148073687,148076575,2017-11-05 11:31:09,">>148075448 >the fact that you are a liberal. really the differences between communism and libertarianism are minimal if you think about it. their effects aswel are identical. pure materialism in whatever form should destroyed Libertarians aren't materialist, or not necessarily. Liberty is just as valuable to saints and ascets as to entrepreneurs. That's the beauty of it: You can do with it what you want. Also, Mussolini was a literal heretic and used to be an orthodox marxist. Then he became a non-marxist socialist, but nonetheless a socialist. And his idea of personal and cultural growth was bombing things to shit. He was quite open about that.",,Anonymous,Frederic Bastiat - Group is no greater than the Individual.jpg,biHs1i+ls38rpTBZGgreow==,,,1509881469 148073687,148076586,2017-11-05 11:31:17,">>148076488 This couldn't be fascist-bro could it?",,Anonymous,1486689016811.png,YVYe41zNT07hfgKQEznsYg==,,,1509881477 148073687,148076635,2017-11-05 11:31:39,">>148076456 Sounds fine with me. We just want the Pacific Northwest of the US as an ethnostate.",,Anonymous,1493688522048.jpg,/wAAPtx0syxjFNlQXFCfBQ==,,,1509881499 148073687,148076649,2017-11-05 11:31:43,">>148076463 ""Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing."" We are loudly proclaim ourselves as RIGHT libertarians.",,Ze,crushthemob.jpg,jOl0VYCbXFrjzUt1zhku1A==,,,1509881503 148073687,148076651,2017-11-05 11:31:45,">>148075764 >You're telling me there's no difference between people who believe in hierarchy, private property rights they are both empty and utopian ideologies that assume material gratification is the purpose of life. >traditional values hahahahahaha is this a joke >Mussolini was a leftist socialist he was a fascist >You are a leftist degenerate stop roleplaying leftist tard >and you will be physically removed. ohh how i wish you would try, with your pacifist cuck ideology >>148075850 you guys dont seem to get the point. remove the ""right"" from lrg and i will never post here again. but you sure make me feel intimidated entering your ""circle"". you faggy internet clicque does really not interest me",,Anonymous,EUR.jpg,DyDMu0s3Sinz60rkzK/G/g==,NL,,1509881505 148073687,148076717,2017-11-05 11:32:25,">>148076284 Do you even need to ask?",,RightWingAllianceNOW,RWAjoinorbtfo.png,NckyHMmKIW85H9Z5UJGKqw==,,,1509881545 148073687,148076823,2017-11-05 11:33:17,">>148073687 How is it to have a micropenis? I mean people can see it and laugh about it.",,Anonymous,1509654700153.jpg,b54iLwhaBOTEPsYkTSfB7A==,,,1509881597 148073687,148076827,2017-11-05 11:33:20,">>148076635 lol dude, Im an ancap, but what makes you think I want the original 13 plauged with nogs? we're gonna buy up all the land and move them out anyway.",,Anonymous,Pol (2).png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,,,1509881600 148073687,148076828,2017-11-05 11:33:20,">>148076717 >>148076586 >>148076488 >>148076331 >>148076284",,Asynd,165313.png,/hJqgSRi7bF5SCdQUR9gXQ==,US,,1509881600 148073687,148076866,2017-11-05 11:33:41,">>148076651 If our ""faggy internet clicque"" doesn't interest you, why are you shitting up the place in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509881621 148073687,148076903,2017-11-05 11:34:04,">>148076651 Please explain to me how Anarcho-Capitalism assumes material gratification is the purpose of life? I would never have thought this for even a second. To me the purpose of life is to find the truth and to do good. I think the best way to do good is not by initiating violence against others, and that self-ownership and by extension property are natural truths of man.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509881644 148073687,148076974,2017-11-05 11:34:39,">>148076823 >flag",,Anonymous,idiagnoseyouwithgay.jpg,reKJHtT/tAxNh8AFgtNKzw==,,,1509881679 148073687,148076993,2017-11-05 11:34:46,">>148076651 Why are we utopians? And how are we empty? I'm a pro-white traditionalist libertarian. I stand against cultural Marxism, the same as you.",,Anonymous,1496997436771.png,m0uo2+Q63/aqqovc509odg==,,,1509881686 148073687,148077217,2017-11-05 11:36:48,">>148076284 And we'll start with you, national socialist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509881808 148073687,148077234,2017-11-05 11:36:55,">>148076651 >pacifist cuck ideology Yea, lack of state restrictions on ownership of weapons and encouragement of self-defense sure is pacifist. We're definitely advocating for total non-violence when we say we need a violent revolution against the state.",,Anonymous,2_points_for_u.jpg,9Fj+nyWQg3lekeh/pIg11Q==,,,1509881815 148073687,148077309,2017-11-05 11:37:34,">>148076284 Leftists cannot stop a united right-wing alliance",,Anonymous,pol.png,8hZ9oyvvSmLAMXfXzC3JXQ==,US,,1509881854 148073687,148077332,2017-11-05 11:37:47,">>148076649 *we are and....",,Anonymous,,,,,1509881867 148073687,148077437,2017-11-05 11:38:43,Left-wing socialists who cause division between the allied right will not be tolerated.,,Anonymous,LRG.png,odibbxgK7OBD7UFBScvERg==,,,1509881923 148073687,148077481,2017-11-05 11:39:10,"Reminder that democracy is just the ability of the majority to violate the inalienable rights of the minority, and will always lead to tyranny as well as social decay.",,Anonymous,democracydistorsconservatism(hoppe).png,s6qfwknhVutdrrCzNqgLOg==,,,1509881950 148073687,148077532,2017-11-05 11:39:32,">>148075188 >https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340566445887062016/376767031057580033/ANARCHY.svg thanks anon",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1509881972 148073687,148077543,2017-11-05 11:39:41,>>148076651,,Anonymous,1496278797311.png,rM9LtNLIDaRqWNQB8V0GoQ==,,,1509881981 148073687,148077573,2017-11-05 11:39:56,">>148076717 I really hate the Gasden Flag for this reason. It's origin was in the most anti-libertarian message possible, increased political centralization (join or die). It baffles me why libertarians use it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509881996 148073687,148077730,2017-11-05 11:41:18,">>148077573 Join or Die is not the Gadsden flag.",,Anonymous,snek (7).jpg,T64KL89oh+sSnd8GRCuTIw==,,,1509882078 148073687,148077826,2017-11-05 11:42:13,,,Anonymous,RR (10).png,bIDcgm8bWRNUv8EN7ypOkQ==,,,1509882133 148073687,148077919,2017-11-05 11:43:01,,,Anonymous,Blank_817180_6199394.jpg,/6o6vktoY2GLSO1kKLuW5g==,,,1509882181 148073687,148077968,2017-11-05 11:43:29,,,Anonymous,RR (8).png,kKcuyR3CWM0sY/Wq4KpC/w==,,,1509882209 148073687,148077995,2017-11-05 11:43:42,,,Anonymous,1434746073350.jpg,A3K2RGPEFVeZrvy2Fx6Fjg==,,,1509882222 148073687,148078045,2017-11-05 11:44:08,">>148073687 Bumping for private death squads!",,Anonymous,politicalcompass.jpg,y9DNxxp5mHaA3i6GsfsuAQ==,,,1509882248 148073687,148078047,2017-11-05 11:44:11,,,Anonymous,1403750218087.jpg,iT3YHP18Y51cTXvQBVtV9g==,,,1509882251 148073687,148078055,2017-11-05 11:44:13,,,Anonymous,America-feminism-transgendered-lesbian-white-privilege-obese-degeneracy-patriarchy-black-lives-matter-Uncle-Sam-Lady-Columbia.jpg,3lwzD4mnOed+Tp3bjydpvw==,,,1509882253 148073687,148078063,2017-11-05 11:44:19,,,Anonymous,1489622843739.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,,,1509882259 148073687,148078128,2017-11-05 11:44:55,,,Anonymous,misc (1).jpg,++m7Ur5q8JtwyrSkwW1Fww==,,,1509882295 148073687,148078139,2017-11-05 11:44:59,">>148073687 >>148078045",,Anonymous,1025170047.jpg,K+NtBXtc+1G9pMaO1FI0mw==,,,1509882299 148073687,148078192,2017-11-05 11:45:22,">>148076866 i just explained it to you >>148076903 >>148076993 >Why are we utopians? perfect comeptition is utopian >And how are we empty? individualism is the rejection of struffle and higher purpose. your life ends with your death, there is nothing before and after. the effects of this mindset are observable every day. decadence in the name of freedom >traditionalist libertarian oxymoron >>148077234 yes you are pacifists, embrace it >>148077543 lame meme",,Anonymous,XX1990.1818.jpg,N2Y7z0xshAWJ1+EbY/GAtg==,NL,,1509882322 148073687,148078281,2017-11-05 11:46:13,">>148078045 This is kinda old",,Anonymous,10.3.2017.png,2VYOCrdBaKCe37R1spCuzg==,,,1509882373 148073687,148078343,2017-11-05 11:46:47,">>148078192 You do know that the only thing that ""libertarian"" means is the rejection of force? How is a traditionalist libertarian an oxymoron?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509882407 148073687,148078537,2017-11-05 11:48:31,">>148077730 The first time a snake cartoon was used was in Benjamin Franklin's Join, or Die cartoon. It's cut up snake would later become the snake in the Gadsden flag. The idea behind the Gadsden flag is that the colonies had already joined together. Anyone who uses it is supporting the socialist US government we have today. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509882511 148073687,148078762,2017-11-05 11:50:31,>implying there has ever been a successful libertarian state,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509882631 148073687,148078907,2017-11-05 11:51:30,">>148078762 >Libertarian state >Why hasn't a fairly new ideology in the history of political thought created its own society yet",,Anonymous,,,,,1509882690 148073687,148078930,2017-11-05 11:51:45,">>148078537 alright, well I'll have to read up on that. Sounds like you've gotta point there. Though, I doubt you'll remove the flag from popular usage",,Anonymous,,,,,1509882705 148073687,148079060,2017-11-05 11:52:51,">>148078192 >believes in perfect competition Go read some Rothbard, you economically illiterate commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509882771 148073687,148079063,2017-11-05 11:52:55,">>148078762 America",,Anonymous,Libertarian.png,DAo6xn5yvke1kVAw7+HlUQ==,,,1509882775 148073687,148079069,2017-11-05 11:53:00,,,Anonymous,Wall.png,fKxta3WJtAxyIPAQvTwa5w==,,,1509882780 148073687,148079209,2017-11-05 11:54:06,">>148073687 So how do you deal with the neetsoc Jew autism?",,Anonymous,1442463674178.jpg,B9SqshDMkcPy4ksjovurSw==,,,1509882846 148073687,148079373,2017-11-05 11:55:38,">>148079209 see >>148074942 libertarianism is a gentile invention. and fuck Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman",,Anonymous,GOYs.png,A+U0uc+5K8sDTutQZm9GLw==,,,1509882938 148073687,148079519,2017-11-05 11:56:57,">>148076651 >they are both empty and utopian ideologies Only if you can prove they cannot work. Which is easily possible for communism, but I have yet to see a decisive critique for anarchocapitalism. No one in his right mind can even pretend that minarchism couldn't work. >that assume material gratification is the purpose of life. Libertarianism doesn't. Of course, material goods do play a role for the majority of people, but besides a few ascets and monks, no one would disagree with that. Not many ascets and monks in your movement, far as I know. You want goods just like everyone else, and libertarianism can provide them. Don't care about that? Good thing libertarianism also ensures lasting peace, an end to state-supported degeneracy, and the freedom to fulfill your purpose in life. >hahahahahaha is this a joke Heretic. Socialist. Former Marxist. You cannot tell me that Mussolini was a traditionalist. >he was a fascist That's what he said, a leftist socialist. >ohh how i wish you would try, with your pacifist cuck ideology Nigga, do you think we support the second amendment, the right of self-defense and personal armament because we're pacifists?",,Anonymous,Ludwig von Mises - Nazism is not traditional.jpg,D4HRkxvJvRZcy88j4LAoBg==,,,1509883017 148073687,148079647,2017-11-05 11:57:55,"Imagine... Imagine being so much of a giant cuck... That you can't even decide things for yourself anymore... That you willingly and happily surrender your stuff to other, stronger and taller men because they look cool in uniforms. They get all the women, all the fame, all the glory, all the fun, and in return you get a promise of a half-decent retirement plan. Until then, you'll get drafted and go die in a war to further their political interests. I grew out of fascism when I was 17 years old. When did you, or when will you?",,Anonymous,smug bitches.jpg,bKSjN6P9x2F1xXw3oQW1rg==,,,1509883075 148073687,148079684,2017-11-05 11:58:07,">>148073687 National-libertarian reporting in. The future is ours!",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1509883087 148073687,148079757,2017-11-05 11:58:45,">>148079209 >Ayn Rand >Milton Friedman Try Cantwell and Bastiat. Rothbard was a race realist who rejected Judeo-communism. >>148079684 Liberty for me and my nation!",,Anonymous,,,,,1509883125 148073687,148079881,2017-11-05 11:59:46,">>148076827 >NH “Free State” movement >Election thrown by Masshole migrants >”Will Issue” concealed carry >cries for freedom >plz come deport our commiefags",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509883186 148073687,148079920,2017-11-05 12:00:04,">>148078192 What the hell do you mean by perfect competition? Competition is neither perfect nor imperfect, competition is competition. This idea that we're all individualists is very wrong. I would describe myself as a nationalist, and feel the family unit to be the most important piece of society. We are simply against the unethical use of violent force to manipulate others into doing what you find best. No, we are not pacifists. The rattlesnake is our symbol for a reason, ""Don't tread on me"" is not a request, it is a warning. Any society that wishes to be free from unethical initiation of violence NECESSARILY supports self-defense and in fact holds it as a virtue, and act of good.",,Anonymous,tolerancercausesrot(hoppe).jpg,K+VaO87hUNMhbjwz+q50AQ==,,,1509883204 148073687,148080186,2017-11-05 12:02:10,">>148079881 NH and ""libertarian"" state projects are doomed to fail. you gotta be explicitly right wing from the start. Fuck Keene, NH.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509883330 148073687,148080209,2017-11-05 12:02:21,">>148078537 Just because it's two snakes doesn't mean it's the same thing. >>148078762 This way of thinking is a rejection of all new technology ever created, because once they did not exist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509883341 148073687,148080303,2017-11-05 12:03:10,Is national capitalism the final redpill?,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1509883390 148073687,148080319,2017-11-05 12:03:16,">>148079209 Intolerance",,Anonymous,exclusion(hoppe).jpg,osOj9VyjBhusgcQYjpx3TQ==,,,1509883396 148073687,148080443,2017-11-05 12:04:22,">>148080303 National capitalism, right-wing populism, is only a transitional stage into anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509883462 148073687,148080512,2017-11-05 12:05:02,">>148080303 Only if you separate the state from the nation",,Anonymous,thecommunity.jpg,zbnAtWLaNPmz3KOFmG4SyQ==,,,1509883502 148073687,148080515,2017-11-05 12:05:03,">>148078762 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_Moresnet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City And Sage Period Iceland",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509883503 148073687,148080722,2017-11-05 12:06:53,">>148080512 that image.",,Anonymous,1506915101127.jpg,BDbiWD5ldzFrEP1CEfnKWg==,,,1509883613 148073687,148080749,2017-11-05 12:07:07,">>148076823 >Democracy Oh boy you didn't. Also: >tfw they think stepping on venomous rattlesnakes is a symbol of strength and not stupidity >>148078192 >perfect comeptition is utopian Austrian economists have always laughed at this concept. Perfect competition is a nonsensical idea, and it's also not required at all to have a functioning market. Libertarians are not neocons with everything besides the laissez-faire rhetoric removed. We follow completely different theories. >individualism is the rejection of struffle and higher purpose. It isn't. Struggle is only possible for the individual. Is there such a thing as a struggling society while all of its members are perfectly still? That's obviously another absurd notion. Fascism is not about any higher purpose, or none deserving of that name. It's just another collectivist ideology, one that appeals to simple and pathetic minds. Simple people tend to feel great and invulnerable when they're together with lots of comrades, it's why they love degenerate parties. Can you even articulate what higher purpose you have in mind? >your life ends with your death, there is nothing before and after. That has nothing to do with individualism. There's Christian libertarians, you know?",,Anonymous,Edmund Burke on Democracy.jpg,DTgC4+jKN9DAv9FSGVSrfw==,,,1509883627 148073687,148080954,2017-11-05 12:08:54,">>148078343 your defenition of force is a bit broader than bumping into sombody on the street. individualism simply means that there is no higher autbority than the individual. no god or whatever form of spiritual authority, by doing this the individual believes he controls the laws of the universe. this ofcourse is the oppsite of traditionalism >>148079519 >Only if you can prove they cannot work. we will have to wait for the libertarian revolution i geuss. just typing that out made me chuckle >an end to state-supported degeneracy replacing it with private-supported degeneracy. which is the same as your state supported dgeneracg >and the freedom to fulfill your purpose in life. the purpose of life are purpose and struggle. individualism rejects that >Heretic. Socialist. Former Marxist. You cannot tell me that Mussolini was a traditionalist. i never claimed he was, neither have i claimed i myself am a traditionalist >That's what he said, a leftist socialist. if you insist labels are meaningless, actions matter. fascism is the ideology of action >Nigga, do you think we support the second amendment, the right of self-defense and personal armament because we're pacifists? yes",,Anonymous,Autarchia.jpg,aiqgsHxtI1xxaAQhFJk26w==,NL,,1509883734 148073687,148081016,2017-11-05 12:09:27,">>148080722 I still see this. Hope isn't lost, we are not yet dead. Join us and fight brother, we can get it back.",,Anonymous,iwantitback.jpg,Lr5ZIq4rOI2tR/2eap3+nw==,,,1509883767 148073687,148081225,2017-11-05 12:11:13,">>148080186 Fuck Keene for sure. I’m in Manchester.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509883873 148073687,148081889,2017-11-05 12:16:56,">>148080954 >we will have to wait for the libertarian revolution i geuss. So because it hasn't happen yet, it's impossible. So you're saying that the nationstate was utopian before the French Revolution, and the eradication of the jews was a utopian idea before the Nazis got to power, and monarchy was utopian back when people were organized in tribes? >just typing that out made me chuckle And typing that out made me think you're an idiot who giggles in front of his PC. >replacing it with private-supported degeneracy. which is the same as your state supported dgeneracg Niggers went completely bonkers after the welfare state was enacted and the Civil Rights Movement undermined by Maoists. Can you point towards any privately sponsored McDegeneracy that can compete? >the purpose of life are purpose and struggle. Oh, awesome! So if all the poor people starve, they'll be struggling, and so they will have purpose, and as purpose = purpose in life, they'll then have a purpose in life! :^) Do you even hear yourself talk? >i never claimed he was, neither have i claimed i myself am a traditionalist So don't care about tradition? Oh boy. What has the world come to that fascists don't even pay lipservice to it? >if you insist labels are meaningless, actions matter. I didn't say labels are meaningless. I said that fascists are leftist socialists. They're progressive, they want a planned economy, they're egalitarian... leftism. >fascism is the ideology of action Like I said, progressivism. Movement for the purpose of movement, in as large a scale as possible, no matter where it leads. >Nigga, do you think we support the second amendment, the right of self-defense and personal armament because we're pacifists? >yes ?",,Anonymous,C.S. Lewis on paternalistic tyranny.jpg,aaHPNgZ+86eCOuYC8q1qHQ==,,,1509884216 148073687,148082062,2017-11-05 12:18:17,,,Anonymous,physical2.png,9FzuelM7b5rL6aYH5Fj2Ow==,,,1509884297 148073687,148082096,2017-11-05 12:18:28,"Posting this here. Not all of these are good, but most that I have read were. Take those as reading suggestions.",,Anonymous,liberty reading guide Mark 3.jpg,I6sDzy6yu495eigCVxVPFQ==,,,1509884308 148073687,148082137,2017-11-05 12:18:46,">>148076331 This.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1509884326 148073687,148082269,2017-11-05 12:19:39,">>148080749 >Struggle is only possible for the individual no it is not >is there such a thing as a struggling society while all of its members are perfectly still? it is a myth, the specifics are irrelevant. the though in the spirit of the people is what matters >Fascism is not about any higher purpose it is in every standpoint and action about a higher purpose >it's why they love degenerate parties. its because they lack guidance from a moral authority like the church or state >Can you even articulate what higher purpose you have in mind? a spiritual purpose that is not bound by the physical wants of the individual, but rather selflessness. be it for the nation or for god >That has nothing to do with individualism. it is the essence of individualism, you are the center of the universe. therefore if you cease to exist so does the universe",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1509884379 148073687,148082414,2017-11-05 12:20:55,">>148082096 Minarchism is a meme.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509884455 148073687,148082552,2017-11-05 12:22:07,">>148075047 Does that animu chick have a name?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509884527 148073687,148082659,2017-11-05 12:23:02,">>148082552 I've heard snek-fu, but theres only 2 images floating around.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509884582 148073687,148082667,2017-11-05 12:23:05,">>148082414 You should read the arguments for it anyway, to understand the extent to which it is a meme and understand minarchists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509884585 148073687,148082833,2017-11-05 12:24:24,">>148082667 Minarchists are the centrists 'muh horseshoe theory' of the Libertarian movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509884664 148073687,148083088,2017-11-05 12:26:29,">>148075377 If members of an ancap society want to bring in cheap labor from Mexico or Bangladesh, who are you to tell them they can't?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509884789 148073687,148083389,2017-11-05 12:28:53,">>148081889 >the French Revolution, and the eradication of the jews was a utopian idea before the Nazis got to power these events are based on myths >And typing that out made me think you're an idiot who giggles in front of his PC. Indid >Niggers went completely bonkers after the welfare state. niggers are a non factor in fascist countries. stop talking about judeo american nonsense >Can you point towards any privately sponsored McDegeneracy that can compete? yes >Oh, awesome! So if all the poor people starve, they'll be struggling yes >So don't care about tradition? fascism was never about tradition and reactionary ideas. it is about creating your own greatness and evolving >>if you insist labels are meaningless, actions matter. >I didn't say labels are meaningless. i forgot a comma >they're egalitarian no",,Anonymous,moses.jpg,DnI23WChr3JBIEPgH9vKpQ==,NL,,1509884933 148073687,148083627,2017-11-05 12:30:49,">>148083088 I'm not going to tell them they can't on their own private property, but I am not going to tolerate it in my own private law community.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509885049 148073687,148083851,2017-11-05 12:32:33,">no ancap meme shitposting I am dissapoint",,Anonymous,freemarket.png,qN50Uce/pbNvwlaLm60tmg==,US,,1509885153 148073687,148083994,2017-11-05 12:33:33,">>148083088 Why would you need to import cheap labor when theres already no minimum wage? Seems like a huge investment on your part to spend resources on importing foreigners when the local population will work for the same wages.",,Anonymous,1508977678451.jpg,Y9QyMvVTGAf467BJ4nvRUw==,,,1509885213 148073687,148084053,2017-11-05 12:33:58,">>148082269 >no it is not So you're saying that a society can struggle while none of its members are? >it is a myth, the specifics are irrelevant. Not sure what that even means. >the though in the spirit of the people is what matters So if all the INDIVIDUALS think really hard that they're struggling, then there is struggle. How does that contradict what I said earlier, that struggle is something that individuals do and not societies or other collectives? >it is in every standpoint and action about a higher purpose Slogans. >its because they lack guidance from a moral authority like the church or state And what guidance does the state give them? To fight in useless wars, stop having innovative thoughts, and all be buddies with each other no matter how vile or unlikable ""each other"" is, because after all, everyone is a comrade, and every comrade is a brother. Oh, and while we're at it - to abandon their friends, their family, and God, if the state deems it sensible. Every totalitarian state has tried to become the sole entity that people have any loyalty towards. It demands the sacrifice of personal, spiritual and blood ties for the sake of an entirely fictional entity. >a spiritual purpose that is not bound by the physical wants of the individual, but rather selflessness. Selflessness for the sake of it, not for any purpose that is in itself valuable. Jesus died for our sins, not because that was a fun thing to do. You even admit tacitly that what you die for doesn't matter, as long as you die. Then why are you a fascist and not a pious servant of Moloch or Huitzilopochtli? >be it for the nation or for god In practice, it is always the nation. Pius XI called the Nazis out on trying to turn the state into a surrogate-god. >it is the essence of individualism, you are the center of the universe. therefore if you cease to exist so does the universe No. Sorry, that's all I can say: No. You came up with this definition from thin air.",,Anonymous,Mises on Inequality.jpg,YY1qZNVCxjITC1FuTcqseA==,,,1509885238 148073687,148084883,2017-11-05 12:40:13,">>148082833 They still contain valuable information. Mises was a minarchist, but that aside, he is the single greatest economy of the 20th century. >>148083389 >these events are based on myths The French Revolution is based on myth? What does that even mean? >yes Where? >yes Then what's your problem with libertarianism exactly? >fascism was never about tradition and reactionary ideas. It always instrumentalized them, and so I have no bad conscience >it is about creating your own greatness and evolving Sounds like individualism to me. >no Yes. The Nazis even had a policy called Gleichschaltung, and both they and the Italian fascists were big about uniforms. They also tried to suppress independent thought, and insisted on calling everyone the equivalent of a comrade. Both Mussolini and Hitler tried to appear youthful and vigorous, and as someone from the people, ""like you and me"". Every fiber of fascism is egalitarian.",,Anonymous,Ludwig von Mises on the Link between Civilization and Private Property.jpg,IQZuIufCF1jsVTnP8b6pOw==,,,1509885613 148073687,148084953,2017-11-05 12:40:45,">>148083088 That's fine but the rest of society wouldn't treat them too kindly. Imagine if discrimination against illegal beaners was accepted in America today? If businesses against such practices could close the door on them, if renters could deny them so they were forced to live in the fringes, in the utmost squalor. They live cramped now, but certainly not so bad as they might compared to if discrimination was still alive in America. Companies would hire far fewer imported beaners.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509885645 148073687,148086726,2017-11-05 12:54:09,">>148073687 I second physical removal of communists and freedom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509886449 148073687,148086941,2017-11-05 12:55:52,Bump.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509886552 148073687,148087278,2017-11-05 12:58:18,Freedomebump,,TPM,1492693792126.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1509886698 148073687,148087828,2017-11-05 13:02:43,">>148084883 >he is the single greatest economist of the 20th century Rothbard accomplished more I think, it's just that Mises almost singlehandedly kept alive and added important observations to what we refer to now as the Austrian school.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509886963 148073687,148088129,2017-11-05 13:04:55,">>148084053 >Not sure what that even means. a thought that resides in a group of people and that inspires action >that struggle is something that individuals do muttiple people can experienxe the same struggle >And what guidance does the state give them? to guide the people through actions and give them prupose. through doctrine, law etc. >and all be buddies with each other no matter how vile or unlikable ""each other"" again thinking in term of the individual. national is unity is not so fragile that can be broken by personal quarrels >It demands the sacrifice of personal, spiritual and blood ties for the sake of an entirely fictional entity. there is nothing fictional about >Selflessness for the sake of it that ignores the purpose part of my sentence >You even admit tacitly that what you die for doesn't matter the opposite, what you die for is more important than the fact that you cease living. Then why are you a fascist and not a pious servant of Moloch or Huitzilopochtli? >In practice, it is always the nation there is littery nlthing wrong with that >You came up with this definition from thin air. >>148084883 classes still existed, muh uniforms is the most retarded argument ive ever heard. fascism is about class cooperation",,Anonymous,Italian_Air_Force.webm,2Ry6OL7ZBy3O0bcd32vnXA==,NL,,1509887095 148073687,148089378,2017-11-05 13:14:10,">>148088129 >muttiple people can experienxe the same struggle Only in a sense of the word ""experience"" that doesn't carry any important moral implications whatosever. I can witness someone get murdered, and someone right next to me can witness it, and both what are experiences are and what we take away from them are going to be radically dissimilar.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509887650 148073687,148089809,2017-11-05 13:17:14,Any good books on how America might switch to a fully free market healthcare system and what it might look like?,,Anonymous,,,,,1509887834 148073687,148090587,2017-11-05 13:22:41,">>148074997 That pic is so fucking true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509888161 148073687,148090723,2017-11-05 13:23:43,">>148089378 Hey, we've seen you around here before. Feel up for joining us in our discord? Kd2WD2X",,Anonymous,,,,,1509888223 148073687,148091562,2017-11-05 13:29:46,">>148090723 I'd benefit from less places to rant before I'd benefit from more. >>148089809 You'd be interested in a whole book on the topic? The basics on that topic can be pretty comprehensively covered in an essay or article. https://mises.org/library/real-medical-freedom",,Praceteom,,,,,1509888586 148073687,148091709,2017-11-05 13:30:43,">>148073687 >>148074065 >>148074119 >>148074319 >>148074414 >>148079069 Random question but you know how colors have psychological effects? What effects do black and yellow have?",,Anonymous,karl marx.jpg,TwE8j87njwGvhYbxNVWAxg==,,,1509888643 148073687,148092020,2017-11-05 13:32:45,">>148091562 You're always free to join, you know where to find us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509888765 148073687,148092091,2017-11-05 13:33:18,">>148073687 Most if not all capitalist schools of economics are based on the idea that humans are perfectly rational. This is empirically not true. Justify yourselves.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509888798 148073687,148092175,2017-11-05 13:33:57,">>148091709 The sort of golden yellow we use to me represents sunlight, warm-brightness and liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509888837 148073687,148092254,2017-11-05 13:34:37,">>148075903 literally cringed at that image",,Anonymous,,,,,1509888877 148073687,148092269,2017-11-05 13:34:46,">>148092091 >based on the idea that humans are perfectly rational. >perfectly rational. No. thats not what we believe at all.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509888886 148073687,148092374,2017-11-05 13:35:25,">>148092254 as If anyone gives a shit what a communist thinks.",,Anonymous,DontFukWithDis2.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,,,1509888925 148073687,148092441,2017-11-05 13:35:50,">>148080303 That just doesn’t work. The interests of capitalism run contrary to the interests of nationalism so much that one will stop.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509888950 148073687,148092642,2017-11-05 13:37:14,">>148092269 Free market theory does.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509889034 148073687,148092749,2017-11-05 13:38:10,">>148092642 tell me what classical economist ever said that ""humans are perfectly rational.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1509889090 148073687,148092789,2017-11-05 13:38:28,">>148092091 >Most if not all capitalist schools of economics are based on the idea that humans are perfectly rational If you replace the phrase ""most if not all"" with ""no"" you become correct.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509889108 148073687,148092835,2017-11-05 13:38:50,">>148092441 ""capitalism"" isn't an entity, it has no interests. people have interests and those interests may be caring for their nation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509889130 148073687,148093037,2017-11-05 13:40:17,">>148092749 Probably no one but atleast the classic supply demand curve is based on the assumption that people are perfectly rational. Apparently keynes tried to fix this problem.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509889217 148073687,148093127,2017-11-05 13:40:57,">>148075903 Hoppeanism is literally feudalism.",,Anonymous,1134353534645.png,gJixYPBFvZN+Zn6HPu5scg==,,,1509889257 148073687,148093143,2017-11-05 13:41:09,">>148092835 Due to market competition in a free market companies have an imperative to be as profitable as possible.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509889269 148073687,148093290,2017-11-05 13:42:07,">>148093037 No it's not. im trying to be nice to you m8 but literally no one except critics of free market economics ever make the claim that we believe people are perfectly rational.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509889327 148073687,148093533,2017-11-05 13:43:55,">>148093127 Yeah its a lot like feudalism, minus serfdom. Do you think you're blowing our minds or somthing?",,Anonymous,1493766743211.png,a7YY0OldFV2QbZLPmwC2SQ==,,,1509889435 148073687,148093647,2017-11-05 13:44:42,">>148091562 Well I figured its kind of a complex issue, I was really just asking for any kind of text on the topic and you delivered so thanks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509889482 148073687,148093751,2017-11-05 13:45:33,">>148076354 Takes 3 paragraphs to explain the concept of opportunity cost. Why do people keep promoting this rambling (Ivory Tower) nutcase?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509889533 148073687,148093952,2017-11-05 13:46:57,">>148093533 Wage slavery might as well make works serfs. They either have to work for the owners of property or starve.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509889617 148073687,148094077,2017-11-05 13:47:55,">>148093647 What the government does adds enormous layers of complexity to the administration of health services, but talking about the core issues themselves doesn't require all that much in terms of explanation. Glad to help.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509889675 148073687,148094093,2017-11-05 13:48:01,">>148093290 Rational buyers is a basic assumption of the perfect competition, on which any mathematical law of economics is based.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509889681 148073687,148094545,2017-11-05 13:51:43,">>148093952 and if hunters dont hunt they starve too, I guess they're being oppressed by nature.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509889903 148073687,148094695,2017-11-05 13:52:45,">>148093952 Or work in a commune or coop, or be self employed, or be self-reliant, or rely on other's charity.",,Anonymous,guns japan.jpg,AmtpEFN9yTAXpL01ajw86w==,,,1509889965 148073687,148094709,2017-11-05 13:52:55,">>148094093 theres no such thing as perfect competition, and no claim the all buyers are rational. seriously where are you getting these ideas from? surely you must have some source?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509889975 148073687,148094991,2017-11-05 13:54:58,BUMP this great thread,,Anonymous,,,,,1509890098 148073687,148095036,2017-11-05 13:55:16,">>148094709 You do believe in quantic economics, eg. supply demand curve?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509890116 148073687,148095308,2017-11-05 13:57:15,">>148095036 Sure, but Neither myself or any classical economist believes in purely rational market actors.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509890235 148073687,148095339,2017-11-05 13:57:28,,,Anonymous,1508644969427.png,Cu6v1Bu40xSrF+c9PI+hdA==,US,,1509890248 148073687,148095478,2017-11-05 13:58:28,">>148094093 Let's be real here, economics is a load of quackery. Economists used to study a significant amount of history which kept their economic theories at least somewhat tethered to reality. The mathematical abstraction of modern economics is only able to build toy models that frequently break down and can't describe anything about the real world.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509890308 148073687,148095656,2017-11-05 13:59:45,">>148073687 Who is going to pay for the roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509890385 148073687,148095720,2017-11-05 14:00:11,">>148095478 Wrong. The problem is that not enough people understand the mathematics, and then they get fooled into giving up their shekels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0",,Anonymous,1502929994606.jpg,eZcURDYybY/sStDlLd6dIA==,US,,1509890411 148073687,148095863,2017-11-05 14:01:08,">>148095339 Paternalists won't accept the ""you are a sociopath/psychopath"" point. They literally and unironically believe other people can know what's better for someone else than that someone else, and that they can (and should) force things on that someone else ""for their own good"".",,Praceteom,,,,,1509890468 148073687,148095929,2017-11-05 14:01:36,">>148095308 They probably don’t, but their mathematical models do. Look up the assumptions behind the supply demand curve.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509890496 148073687,148096149,2017-11-05 14:03:05,">>148095863 But that's literally the definition of detaining someone.",,Anonymous,questionmarkgirl3.jpg,1bN0y8AlGa9hSa084x+BPA==,US,,1509890585 148073687,148096194,2017-11-05 14:03:23,">>148095929 please spell it out for me, I can't pretend to have a debate with you if you require me to do research on your behalf.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509890603 148073687,148096227,2017-11-05 14:03:31,">>148095478 It’s funny how often economic ”laws” are proven wrong by empirical evidence. I recall reading recently about a study which showed that dicersification rather than specialisation of economies is good efficency wise.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509890611 148073687,148096540,2017-11-05 14:05:57,">>148095720 >Wrong. The problem is that not enough people understand the mathematics No, the models and mathematics employed by economists are oversimplified and full of assumptions. And yes I've seen that video and agree with it. That's a separate point than what I'm making.",,Anonymous,equilibrium.jpg,M9rx9/8ifgOnI8bibkAjGg==,CA,,1509890757 148073687,148096591,2017-11-05 14:06:18,">>148095929 Individual humans don't have to behave perfectly rationally, crowds of humans, e.g. markets, behave rationally. Also corporations behave almost perfectly rationally. This is also a stupid objection, as you're trying to prove that people should be freely able to deviate from the objectively best path, which is half the point of ancap in the first place. It's the An. The Cap part is for capitalism, which settles the bookkeeping after everybody pursues the An part, and rationality is rewarded accordingly. Are you trying to say that irrational behavior is desirable?",,Anonymous,1508467747402.jpg,qCu9DmptLnjSlms7Q3Lq2Q==,US,,1509890778 148073687,148096615,2017-11-05 14:06:32,">>148096149 Yes, but they ""have your and other's interests at heart"" when they use violence against you. They unironically think they're behaving under a kind of altruism when they threaten you or try to kidnap you/throw you in a cage.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509890792 148073687,148096755,2017-11-05 14:07:33,">>148096194 The supply demand curve is based on the assumption of perfect competition. Wikipedia has a long list on its page for it. Examples include: Perfect access to information. Rational buyers. Large numbers of buyers and sellers.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509890853 148073687,148097105,2017-11-05 14:10:07,">>148096591 I am saying that the logic behind claiming ancap efficient is flawed.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509891007 148073687,148097114,2017-11-05 14:10:11,">>148096540 >models are oversimplified That's how models work. You don't make a model as complex as the system you're modeling, because that defeats the purpose of the model. Are you saying the mathematical models are not predictive of reality? That's also untrue, the models are very predictive and accurate. The problem is that no politician will face reality, and economics is grouped with politics because of state sovereignty and coercive action.",,Anonymous,ancap_TJ1.jpg,6p+Jf+F9XqKqkytEt6z46w==,US,,1509891011 148073687,148097275,2017-11-05 14:11:17,">>148096615 If you assume that there is objective morality then that can be a valid viewpoint. If you assume there is no objective morality you can’t claim that that’s immoral.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509891077 148073687,148097462,2017-11-05 14:12:35,">>148096755 >>148097105 >list of assumptions, etc. There is a deeper side to this. In an inefficient market, there are always gains to be made by being slightly more efficient than the market, which causes a rat race towards long-term efficiency. /pol/ and 4chan are an example of the market correcting imperfect access to information.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509891155 148073687,148097465,2017-11-05 14:12:41,">>148096755 You're just repeating the same shit again, my patience is running short with you. How do you validate the claim that classical economists assume maket actors are perfectly rational and have full access to information about their trades? The answer is you cant, because they don't make that claim. Only you are making that claim.",,Anonymous,unknown.png,YXnQvS3Ujlk6XmeTY7UG3Q==,,,1509891161 148073687,148097524,2017-11-05 14:13:06,">>148097275 >If you assume that there is objective morality then that can be a valid viewpoint I assume an objective morality and paternalism is a completely invalid viewpoint in regard to that morality.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509891186 148073687,148097604,2017-11-05 14:13:39,">>148097105 Your criticisms of classical economics are flawed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509891219 148073687,148097741,2017-11-05 14:14:37,">>148097524 So you support the use of paternalism to stop paternalism?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509891277 148073687,148097856,2017-11-05 14:15:32,,,Anonymous,1508741917168.jpg,ZFAmUvv1GIuVE7xXdIez9A==,,,1509891332 148073687,148097875,2017-11-05 14:15:40,">>148073687 You need to have libertarian attitudes and fight against socialism/communism. Thats all. National socialism will fail again, because socialisn. Better refound america, bit this time directly forbid any sort of debt, tax or positive rights. Instead purely concentrate on reserving freedom. Shoot all traitors of freedom this time. Ceep the free country free. Disallow female rights. Shoot all traitors.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509891340 148073687,148097993,2017-11-05 14:16:27,">>148097275 >immoral That has nothing to do with it. It's stupid, because the individual person already had agency to ""consent"" to being governed by the controlling party, which means they should either have the agency to withdraw that consent or there was no consent in the first place, in which case it's violent conversion of labor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509891387 148073687,148098091,2017-11-05 14:17:14,">>148097741 No, I'm a Christian and thus a complete pacifist since that's commanded by my God. God judges all souls - I'm literally told to leave all things to Him, and have no qualms about doing so. >""Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord""",,Praceteom,,,,,1509891434 148073687,148098116,2017-11-05 14:17:28,,,Anonymous,1504686524501.jpg,ARlZHqffSlzrzrS0XTNQ2A==,,,1509891448 148073687,148098163,2017-11-05 14:17:47,"Friendly reminder that voting for leftist parties is a direct violation of the NAP, and its therefore not morally despicable to kill leftists, if they voted for a leftist party of course.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1509891467 148073687,148098382,2017-11-05 14:19:22,">>148098163 >voting >direct No. Voting for leftists is an indirect violation of the NAP. A direct violation is shooting first.",,Anonymous,offmylawn.jpg,/eq+RLmPyQlzhBYwNp5vnw==,US,,1509891562 148073687,148098433,2017-11-05 14:19:43,">>148098091 Alright so you de-facto don’t oppose paternalism? Is it not immoral to stop people from doing immoral things?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509891583 148073687,148098576,2017-11-05 14:20:45,">>148097993 How can you say it’s bad if you don’t believe in objective morality?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509891645 148073687,148098735,2017-11-05 14:21:55,">>148098382 I mean, it's like paying someone to steal your stuff. If someone pays a hitman to kill you, it wouldn't be wrong to kill them for that.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1509891715 148073687,148098744,2017-11-05 14:21:57,">>148096755 Also when trying to build models of the economy, many of them often assume there's only one agent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_agent because of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnenschein%E2%80%93Mantel%E2%80%93Debreu_theorem >>148097114 >That's also untrue, the models are very predictive and accurate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9KAd_nqINY",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509891717 148073687,148098770,2017-11-05 14:22:08,">>148098091 How are you an AnCap and a Pacifist? Do you not believe that violence in defense of ones own life and property is legitimate? Property is justly defended against aggressors, this is a central claim of property rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509891728 148073687,148098785,2017-11-05 14:22:13,">>148098433 >Alright so you de-facto don’t oppose paternalism? Quote where you derived that from what I've written if you could please.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509891733 148073687,148099099,2017-11-05 14:24:27,">>148098785 Regardles you claim that there is objective morality, yet accuse others for doing the same. How do you know that your morality is correct?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509891867 148073687,148099145,2017-11-05 14:24:47,Daily reminder that anti-Communists are often just as bad as Commies. It was the anti-Communists that drove Rothbard and other libertarians out of the postwar American Right.,,Anonymous,,,,,1509891887 148073687,148099180,2017-11-05 14:25:05,">>148098770 >How are you an AnCap and a Pacifist? Pretty easily. I don't believe any violence is justified - all that's left that's legitimate is voluntary interactions between people. You can believe in legitimate and illegitimate property claims without recourse to the use of rights. The morality I adhere to is completely obligation based and not rights based.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509891905 148073687,148099185,2017-11-05 14:25:07,">>148098576 Mathematically. It's redundant. Suppose person A exists and has utility function x. Suppose person B exists, and person A hires person B to maximize x. There is no arrangement of contract such that person A should be subject to person B against A's will, because in such case B would ALWAYS be failing to maximize x. Even if that situation never happens and person B always perfectly maximizes x; person A is always preferable to person B as the executor for person A.",,Anonymous,highiq.jpg,m5Sabsqbqq6ZC0XEdrpLTw==,US,,1509891907 148073687,148099485,2017-11-05 14:27:08,">>148098744 >stiglitz I thought we were talking about real academics and economic theory; not a dog and pony show institution shilling for kikes.",,Anonymous,1504690019588.jpg,cEBL1GwQRsmOMiFJ6PFWAQ==,US,,1509892028 148073687,148099566,2017-11-05 14:27:45,">>148099099 >Regardles you claim that there is objective morality Yes I do. >yet accuse others for doing the same No - I think most people don't think about morality at all, and when inconsistencies in their moral thinking are pointed out a significant majority of people reveal themselves as relativists to protect their absurd beliefs. I don't ""know"" my morality is correct; I have conviction that it is. Not a single soul that isn't a solipsist escapes faith commitments.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509892065 148073687,148099614,2017-11-05 14:28:06,">>148099145 >People who were mean to Rothbard are equal to commies that want to seize the means of production and abolish private property. Only a communist would say such a foolish thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509892086 148073687,148100065,2017-11-05 14:31:09,">>148099185 Now you are making the assumption that personal pleasure, hedonism, is objectively moral.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509892269 148073687,148100107,2017-11-05 14:31:25,">>148091709 The contrast creates a feeling of intensity for me, the black of seriousness, the yellow of energy and hope",,Anonymous,,,,,1509892285 148073687,148100153,2017-11-05 14:31:47,">>148099180 I guess you can hold those values just fine, but how do you expect to maintain a property based society if theres no way to enforce property rights and contracts? Do you just accept the immorality of violence that will take place either in defense or assault against people and property? Also, are you a fan of Bryan Caplan? he's the only other person I've ever heard of being a pacifist and an AnCap.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509892307 148073687,148100233,2017-11-05 14:32:22,">>148099485 He's saying his entire profession is a scam and couldn't predict the 2008 crisis. This is an admission of guilt. >not a dog and pony show institution shilling for kikes. That's economics",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509892342 148073687,148100473,2017-11-05 14:34:00,">>148092642 Explain how you think this Humans need not be rational for the free market to work. The free market will produce the most efficient and highest quality fulfillment of demands, and is the only ethical economic system as well. How does this rely on rationality at all? The demand need not be rational. I will say that beneficial ways of living will naturally prevail over lesser lifestyles - the nondegenerate CEO versus the pot smoking faggot who works under him for pennies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509892440 148073687,148100550,2017-11-05 14:34:28,">>148093127 Yea, except voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509892468 148073687,148100571,2017-11-05 14:34:34,">>148099566 Assume tha someone thinks living accoeding to the ten commandements is objectively moral. How would you justify to them that what they are doing is immoral?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509892474 148073687,148100786,2017-11-05 14:36:07,">>148093952 SINCE I MUST DRINK WATER TO SURVIVE, WATER IS TYRANNICAL! HELP IM BEING OPPRESSED!",,Anonymous,oksaitama.png,oTTV3DazjU8P1PP8boXrKQ==,,,1509892567 148073687,148100913,2017-11-05 14:37:04,">>148100153 I'm concerned with doing good and avoiding evil in my own life and fulfilling my obligations. I neither can nor would I ever want to control other people. You have to understand that as a Christian I'm told by my God to leave all matters of justice to Him and to forgive any and all transgressions. There are certainly countless sins people engage in (mostly state actors) that boil my blood, but in the end none of us escape judgement for each and every thing we do.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509892624 148073687,148101004,2017-11-05 14:37:37,">>148094709 There is no such thing as perfect or imperfect competition, and no need for buyers to be rational. Your ideas stem from the mindset that you can enforce what you feel is best upon others, and that people not doing what you want is a failure of the system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509892657 148073687,148101067,2017-11-05 14:38:01,">>148100153 I've never heard of Bryan Caplan though. I'll look him up.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509892681 148073687,148101110,2017-11-05 14:38:14,">>148100473 You need to read the rest of the replies. The point is that many rationalistic spesific arguments for the free market rely on this assumption, eg. people will always choose similarly priced but higher quality products.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509892694 148073687,148101401,2017-11-05 14:40:08,">>148095339 Change the ""yes"" response for ""someone else has a better claim to your body than you do"" to lead to another box saying >you are confused, your own ability to say your body is not yours demonstrates that you own your body before anyone else, only you can make your body take action",,Anonymous,,,,,1509892808 148073687,148101504,2017-11-05 14:40:50,">>148100571 >Assume tha someone thinks living accoeding to the ten commandements is objectively moral. How would you justify to them that what they are doing is immoral? I wouldn't, since I think there's nothing immoral about obeying the Commandments of God. I'd just direct people to the more temporally recent Commandments of God that people tend to ignore because they find them personally inconvenient, such as; ""Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 ) “Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”",,Praceteom,,,,,1509892850 148073687,148101522,2017-11-05 14:40:55,I FEEL THE MONSTER INSIDE ME START TO RISE AS THE SAXON BEGINS TO HATE AND ALL THE MANY ATROCITIES OF HUMAN HISTORY START TO MAKE SENSE,,Anonymous,Cantwell4.jpg,F4J4ojSi2lFbnkeoM5hclQ==,,,1509892855 148073687,148101547,2017-11-05 14:41:05,">>148100913 So you take it to faith that God will ensure some form of justice? To be clear here, if someone is going to violently kill you, you will do nothing in your own defense?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509892865 148073687,148101587,2017-11-05 14:41:22,>>148101522,,Anonymous,Milk.png,Bg6G5W0vPD41mjU0jxTINg==,,,1509892882 148073687,148101606,2017-11-05 14:41:29,">>148095478 Funny how you just made a series of claims with nothing to support them and made absolutely no attempt at applying your claims to anarcho-capitalism!",,Anonymous,wendylrg.png,YVoiXvmruo5Ux2wCT2OeHQ==,,,1509892889 148073687,148101737,2017-11-05 14:42:20,">>148095656 People that want roads?",,Anonymous,thinkbrain.png,+eSEQkWeqBnsIqofe7sOyA==,,,1509892940 148073687,148102108,2017-11-05 14:44:46,">>148101547 >So you take it to faith that God will ensure some form of justice? Yes that's the case. Even if there were no God, though, I don't think violent retribution could accomplish anything remotely resembling a moral good. >To be clear here, if someone is going to violently kill you, you will do nothing in your own defense? That's correct. That's much easier in my own personal case than if I were present for someone else being threatened with violence or death, since I have an obligation to help them but I've got limited options as a pacifist.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509893086 148073687,148102152,2017-11-05 14:44:59,">>148097741 No, our objective morality is that initiation of violence against others is wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509893099 148073687,148102378,2017-11-05 14:46:32,">>148097875 >disallow female rights What meme is this, the only right is property, which females can also own since they can obviously self-actualize. Most females will just naturally own less than men and more often exist on the property (at the consent) of men, following their leadership.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509893192 148073687,148102575,2017-11-05 14:47:52,">>148098433 >I am against violence >This somehow means I don't oppose a way of thinking which legitimizes violence",,Anonymous,1496617998050.gif,E4mAJhARcqr6jBrQkKi8oQ==,,,1509893272 148073687,148102813,2017-11-05 14:49:25,">>148102108 I wish you the best, but I strongly disagree with your moral values. I feel I have a moral obligation to defend the lives of myself and my family and really anyone for that matter, even if that means I must kill their assaulters. I simply cannot allow my family to be slaughtered.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509893365 148073687,148102975,2017-11-05 14:50:21,">>148101110 People will always choose what they find to be best and satisfies them the most.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509893421 148073687,148102976,2017-11-05 14:50:22,"Guys, i know that this is stupid question. Does hate speech break the NAP or not?",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1509893422 148073687,148103109,2017-11-05 14:51:10,">>148102976 No; but fighting words does.",,Anonymous,1485390853039.jpg,7S3k2Gbyv8zFVGybP/XxbA==,US,,1509893470 148073687,148103276,2017-11-05 14:52:10,,,Anonymous,,,,,1509893530 148073687,148103322,2017-11-05 14:52:25,">>148103109 Do you mean the 7 words?",,Anonymous,Screenshot from 2017-11-06 02-52-02.png,9Ngzjrl+P6xIuZAZSkeb6w==,ID,,1509893545 148073687,148103402,2017-11-05 14:52:52,">>148102976 No",,Anonymous,foundingfatherpeacefulways.jpg,T/c/kplfGaNChVOdONApcQ==,,,1509893572 148073687,148104205,2017-11-05 14:58:02,">>148073687 What are some gun laws that need to be repeal? Also, should Government Welfare be replace with Corporations giving Welfare instead?",,Anonymous,Tfw you already have a gf but your gf owns an sks before you.jpg,0BNOI69LrdXP+zvE7tdWTw==,,,1509893882 148073687,148104340,2017-11-05 14:58:54,">>148101737 I think that people should pay flat fee(based on mileage and weight of said vehicle) for the service of the road. Sometimes, it's faster to walk than using car ( 5 >= x >= 10 km)",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1509893934 148073687,148104348,2017-11-05 14:58:57,">>148102813 It follows from a belief in God. I hope you'll give God some thought in the future. I would point out that when you say things like ""allow"" that many physical things in the world are outside your or anyone else's control. I can talk about ""not allowing"" my family to be murdered, but what other people decide to do is their decision and not within my control (that is, if a million people surround my home with the intent to kill myself and my family, it's kind of silly to talk about whether I ""allow"" or ""don't allow"" whatever it is those people decide to do - it isn't and was never within my ability to change their actions).",,Praceteom,,,,,1509893937 148073687,148104381,2017-11-05 14:59:08,">>148103402 I love Founding Father, but we can do better than impact font.",,Anonymous,Pinochetianism.jpg,28EYLHN3YFlLJZ3phHKqMg==,,,1509893948 148073687,148105102,2017-11-05 15:03:52,">>148078063 I don't believe he said that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509894232 148073687,148105236,2017-11-05 15:04:41,">>148104205 What welfare? I thought that welfare should only be given to disabled(quadraplegic, cognitivaly impaired). And anyone capable of working, should work, instead of begging...",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1509894281 148073687,148105257,2017-11-05 15:04:50,">>148104205 >What are some gun laws that need to be repeal? all of them. >Should Government Welfare be replace with Corporations giving Welfare instead? Let's start by bringing back the Church. Vountarily communites that help each other is the best way to go.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509894290 148073687,148105382,2017-11-05 15:05:39,">>148101606 >made a series of claims with nothing to support them Ok let's go back and work through it because you need your hand held claims I made here>>148095478 >Economists used to study a significant amount of history John Stuart Mill ""He had also read a great deal of history in English and had been taught arithmetic, physics and astronomy."" "" Mill began studying Latin, the works of Euclid, and algebra, and was appointed schoolmaster to the younger children of the family. His main reading was still history"" Adam Smith ""from 1729 to 1737, he learned Latin, mathematics, history, and writing."" ""In 1750, Smith met the philosopher David Hume, who was his senior by more than a decade. In their writings covering history, politics, philosophy"" Even Thomas Malthus ""In 1805 Malthus became Professor of History and Political Economy at the East India Company College in Hertfordshire."" My Second statement (which I don't really consider a claim) >study a significant amount of history which kept their economic theories at least somewhat tethered to reality This is harder to prove but my general point is understanding what worked in the past and what did not work provides an empirical groundwork. History has a large amount of data and economic data, and studying this is extremely valuable in informing present economic policies. If you want to understand the real world economy it's important to study history and economies of the past. My last claim >Let's be real here, economics is a load of quackery. >The mathematical abstraction of modern economics is only able to build toy models that frequently break down Try reading any of this guy's papers. This guy is a prominent economist and has served in government cabinets, and has therefore been responsible for real world policy decisions. http://84.89.132.1/~mcolell/en/academic_research.html",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509894339 148073687,148105747,2017-11-05 15:08:02,">>148105102 This is obviously a hit-piece site on Dr. Paul, but I believe his newsletters were genuine and published by Lew Rockwell. And I deeply respect the man for it. If you click the blue titles of the articles you'll get the original source http://ronpaulsupporters.com/ron-paul-newsletters/",,Anonymous,,,,,1509894482 148073687,148106210,2017-11-05 15:10:48,">>148074197 >grab them by the mussy Kek, imagine worshipping a useless manlet. Sad!",,Anonymous,ancap tap.jpg,Im78nhpQ2Fz7mfuOeqsi6A==,SK,,1509894648 148073687,148106219,2017-11-05 15:10:51,">>148073687 Right libertarian here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jqpG9A---U",,Anonymous,,,,,1509894651 148073687,148106320,2017-11-05 15:11:33,">>148105382 You forget that many of our favorite economists, my own favorite in particular, Murray Rothbard was a brilliant historian who used his studies there to support his economic theory.",,Anonymous,Rothbard-56-portrait-1.jpg,e4b6hJuwH+UHT4k6rtARng==,,,1509894693 148073687,148106638,2017-11-05 15:13:33,">>148105257 I still don't understand why Atheist fetishsize about taxing Churches. Why would you want tax a non-profit organization?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509894813 148073687,148106878,2017-11-05 15:14:57,">>148105236 not in burgerland. Everyone gets free shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1509894897 148073687,148107001,2017-11-05 15:15:34,">>148106638 because it would give everyone more money. people who want taxation in general have zero principles so no use in telling them churches are non profit",,Anonymous,,,,,1509894934 148073687,148107031,2017-11-05 15:15:45,">>148101606 >no attempt at applying your claims to anarcho-capitalism! Economics is a load of bunk and ancaps rely heavily on arguments made by modern economists",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509894945 148073687,148107087,2017-11-05 15:16:05,">>148078192 >implying we read your explanations haha look at this faggot",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509894965 148073687,148107218,2017-11-05 15:16:49,">>148106210 >>148107087 you seem triggered",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1509895009 148073687,148107351,2017-11-05 15:17:36,">>148107218 What an edgy, 15 year old boy response",,Anonymous,,,,,1509895056 148073687,148107529,2017-11-05 15:18:41,">>148106638 The Church as a private institution threatens the narrative that the state must provide welfare for the poorest in society. As you may know theres quite the overlap in socialst and atheist communities, both groups naturally have a hard on for destroying institutions that promote non-secularism and undermine the necessity for the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509895121 148073687,148107564,2017-11-05 15:18:52,">>148107001 If they violate their tax exempt I don't see why not, but are people going to denied that the Government doesn't waste tax payer dollars?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509895132 148073687,148107627,2017-11-05 15:19:12,">>148107031 >ancaps rely heavily on arguments made by modern economists Could you name one such argument?",,Praceteom,,,,,1509895152 148073687,148107717,2017-11-05 15:19:40,">>148093952 >i have to work to live?!? Yeah because no one is going to ""voluntarly"" be your personal fuckbuddy, thats not how it works.",,Anonymous,jyy4n2ojq8cx.png,/FmoDfJMUILbhoSxh8o9YA==,US,,1509895180 148073687,148107973,2017-11-05 15:21:10,">>148107031 Most modern economics is astrology. The Austrian school is the lone voice in the wilderness calling for sanity, which is why mainstream economists try to ignore it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509895270 148073687,148108026,2017-11-05 15:21:29,">>148107564 Most people in the atheist ""community"" are well aware how the government wastes tax dollars but they sincerely believe that the government will change in spending.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509895289 148073687,148108126,2017-11-05 15:22:02,">>148098116 I hate how this describes me. My brother is a lestist, but actually knows his shit, so arguing morals doesn't work (why do you trust politicians with 17% of your income more than yourself) but economic arguments seem to work. Antony Davis is my favorite economist in this regard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509895322 148073687,148108150,2017-11-05 15:22:10,">>148107351 also triggered, what gives?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1509895330 148073687,148108212,2017-11-05 15:22:29,">>148107218 >triggered Not really, at least my leader didn't get hanged by Antifa of all people, kek.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509895349 148073687,148108225,2017-11-05 15:22:35,">>148093952 >blaming ""oppression"" by nature on capitalists",,Anonymous,,,,,1509895355 148073687,148108438,2017-11-05 15:23:54,">>148108212 who is your leader?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1509895434 148073687,148108669,2017-11-05 15:25:17,">>148108438 Hoppe, duh.",,Anonymous,hoppe helicopter.jpg,RJ/kCYK0ccZUG6DCfPsnvA==,SK,,1509895517 148073687,148108759,2017-11-05 15:25:44,">>148107529 I'm still waiting for Atheist to go after the Jewish Community",,Anonymous,,,,,1509895544 148073687,148108938,2017-11-05 15:26:53,">>148108669 at what point was he the absolute leader of one of the largest states of europe?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1509895613 148073687,148109380,2017-11-05 15:29:08,">>148108938 >ancap >leader of the state really makes me think, my dude.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509895748 148073687,148109415,2017-11-05 15:29:19,">>148108026 those tax dollars are just going to fund social programs and Military defense. Churches already provide social programs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509895759 148073687,148109550,2017-11-05 15:30:03,">>148108938 >he thinks an absolute leader is good",,Anonymous,henry2.png,bsefGNBcGHLmz1lpRpP6tg==,,,1509895803 148073687,148109667,2017-11-05 15:30:42,">>148109380 he must have some comperable achievement if you want to start a dickmeasuring contest >>148109550 >he thinks it isnt",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1509895842 148073687,148109718,2017-11-05 15:30:59,>>148075448,,Anonymous,ggm8.png,90WrJ+2wxRvTlRbm5nxL9Q==,US,,1509895859 148073687,148109937,2017-11-05 15:32:15,">>148109415 Most atheists never focus on the good churches do, though. They look at the crusades and 9/11 and come to the conclusion that religion is always evil while still holding faith in the government. t. used to be like this",,Anonymous,,,,,1509895935 148073687,148110211,2017-11-05 15:33:50,">>148109667 I didn't start shit, you're the one who has a hate boner for us and always spends hours in our threads.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509896030 148073687,148110258,2017-11-05 15:34:06,">>148109667 >achievement I really don't think political goons telling people what to do or they'll send slightly dumber goons to kill them/kidnap them/throw them in a cage constitutes anything remotely resembling ""accomplishment"". If anything everything they do is a morally erosive stain on humanity.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509896046 148073687,148110427,2017-11-05 15:34:49,">Just another day in the destroyed country that once could be said to ""flourish"" with democracy and happiness , now in a state of total war , no corners in the lawless streets was safe and ideologies thrive to have any impact and bring peace to this civil war , some followers of Anarcho capitalism were prepared....Just like Ancap-Chan , a simple blonde girl that lives in a small house in the outskirts of the city daring to go there to scavange for any resources , donning a simple t-shirt with some more yellow rags to distinguish herself as a follower of such beliefs ""You should not be here......If they discover how I am just lending you a place to stay.....Someone like you...."" > Others followed more .... Extreme beliefs , just like Fashy-Chan , tanned like the brass of italian guns ,she donned a black shirt that showed some signs of blood and mud , afterall she was used to it .... Using violence to stop those that dared to bring her ""nation"" to a path of poverty and decadence ""Sì..Sì , I already know about it , yet have you not understood how times like this we have to stay united? When anarchists and .... Those red bastards unite....We too have to unite!"" > Ancap-Chan got up from the chair slowly looking into the eyes of Fashy-Chan seeking some comfort by sinking her face in her chest mourning the sadness that they lived in ""I just want to get back....Even if it wasn't what I wanted....I want to be able to eat well....To see property that is not burned or vandalized..."" > Fashy-Chan kept hugging her slowly getting a smile telling her ""We have eachother , no matter what the cost might be if anyone finds out...We will be happy to know we both fought for what we believed in , against our worst enemy , even if my nature goes against yours we fight for the common good...."" > Fashy-Chan took her Fez hat placing it on the head of Ancap-Chan that now...At least had a simple smile adorning it ""Come on Ancap-Chan , I brought some meat that I found wrapp- """,,Anonymous,1500908025415.jpg,8ri7x4R2zaJQ2RV2ljsnjw==,,,1509896089 148073687,148110574,2017-11-05 15:35:43,">>148110427 > Just like the speed of a fresh rifle projectile Fashy-Chan was welcomed by a strange hug from behind....Ancap-Chan refused to let it go , enjoying the company of Fashy-Chan ... Even if she didn't see her as equal in her beliefs...She learned how to see the facy of an ally in the figure of Fashy-Chan ""Promise me you will stay with me Fashy-Chan....You..You always said that we are stronger when we are united right? You can unite with me!"" > Fashy-Chan gave just a simple smile turning around to place one gloved hand in the cheek of Ancap-Chan calming her ""I will....I have been here for so long that I don't see you as an enemy...When the war ends we will probably depart in our ways....You to your land....And I will go to my nation...."" > Ancap-Chan looked a bit to the floor before she gave a determined look to Fashy-Chan ""I want to stay with you! No matter how strange or anti-pragmatic it will be , I want to stay with the black shirted girl that cares about a nation! We have our differences....But we both fight the same enemy and if that means we have to unite to kill those reds...."" > Fashy-Chan tilted her head just slightly lifting one eyebrow even before she began to realize where this was going starting to rose her cheeks just slightly as....She saw it more as a romantic advance than anything...To break her beliefs for that moment....Just to see a face of someone she might....Love? ""Ancap-Chan I...I mean we both fight those guys but...Don't you think we should just....Go to our ways and..."" > She ceased talking before she saw how the face of Ancap-Chan lighted up with a smile strangely the capitalist girl was enjoying such attitude ""You look cute when you try to protest it you know? Come on....There is nothing wrong in...Loving your allies""",,Anonymous,DNIFgNtXcAAkOCl.png,JLPlbjP/dFOC8vBKj0zNlg==,,,1509896143 148073687,148110618,2017-11-05 15:35:55,">>148108212 >>148110211 its the slovak",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1509896155 148073687,148110762,2017-11-05 15:36:37,">>148110574 > The cheeks of Fashy-Chan rosed up contrasting with her tanned skin , those eyes wide open focusing on the face of Ancap-Chan , that grin settling on her face while one sneaky hand traced just a small movement on the side of the uniform of Fashy-Chan ""Oh a bit stressed for getting a bit close to a capitalist? Come on....Where is all that courage and honor ? A bit afraid to see those....Seductive lips assaulted with just some kisses?"" > The Fez of Fashy-Chan fell , she looked back to Ancap-Chan shyly looking to the side , such a proud girl being afraid to show some or any love for Ancap-Chan , she looked back to her giving a sweet smile ""Only as friends Sí ? I....I don't know if we..."" ""If we last to lovers? Come on! Two girls like us that know how to shoot and protect what they love......Come on..."" > Fashy-Chan looked to the side again closing her eyes softly forming her lips to kiss her yet Ancap-Chan just waited! Torturing the pour soul like that....Just wanting a kiss before she began to open her eye slowly seing the smug look of Ancap-Chan ""You...You cretin! I trust you like this and - "" > Out in this pure state of rage leaving her mouth open Ancap-Chan launched herself to lock her lips with Fashy-Chan , catching her offguard while she wrapped her arms around her back pushing her against the table forcing her to respond with a french kiss > Both girls began to make out , their eyes closed while they traded a soft betrayed form of love in the hidden house , the gloved hands of Fashy-chan made way to the back of Ancap-Chan's head holding it there for some more time just to enjoy the kiss....Just for some more time > They slowly broke the kiss , a small rope of their saliva dropping to the side their eyes focusing on eachother , soon they began to kiss now working a bit more in taking off their clothing , Fashy-Chan softly moaned , not used to such contacts , yet you could see the love on those Italian eyes....",,Anonymous,DFAhy86U0AAXjGq.jpg,ACschUc4J7SUdlsrZ14+Kw==,,,1509896197 148073687,148111060,2017-11-05 15:38:12,">>148106878 Yeah, it's time for single mother to buy food from their own pocket. Maybe us&uk should starts it by dismantling title (idk, 8, 10 i guess?)...",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1509896292 148073687,148111630,2017-11-05 15:41:09,">>148110618 It's me, you faggot. Mussolini managed to scare a weak king into submission, then got stomped on by just about everybody. His legacy is one of shame.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1509896469 148073687,148111719,2017-11-05 15:41:40,">>148109937 >guilt tripping How is this any different from guilt tripping Whites? Governments have has always abuse the individual more than religion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509896500 148073687,148111806,2017-11-05 15:42:15,The Stiff WASN'T Involved,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20171105-143421.jpg,OKXMDEJ07Zp0cKtRMJ5+Dw==,US,,1509896535 148073687,148111837,2017-11-05 15:42:24,">>148102575 You just don’t provide any reason why your view is better than paternalism.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509896544 148073687,148111942,2017-11-05 15:43:02,>>148111806,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20171105-104929.png,COsvYvUPms08dQnsuMF7tw==,US,,1509896582 148073687,148112241,2017-11-05 15:44:41,">>148110762 what the fuck is this",,Anonymous,,,,,1509896681 148073687,148112483,2017-11-05 15:46:00,">>148108126 my sister is a lefty (and a women) so nothing works I've convinced my parents on some issues but still have to hide how right wing I really am.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509896760 148073687,148112593,2017-11-05 15:46:32,">>148111837 Violence against others for any reason is wrong because violence is categorically forbidden by God.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509896792 148073687,148113682,2017-11-05 15:52:01,should i put a ring on it,,Anonymous,file.png,LmejkScAO3C4ff4mT3pFGg==,FR,,1509897121 148073687,148113798,2017-11-05 15:52:45,">>148095339 >Do you think that ALL interactions should be voluntary and based on consent? What about putting people in prison?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509897165 148073687,148115218,2017-11-05 16:00:17,">>148113798 Only criminals should be put in prison. Criminals engage in non-consensual interactions (murder, theft, rape, etc.). By ignoring the consent of his victims, a criminal forfeits his own rights of consent (since there is no way to uniquely justify his thieving/killing/etcetera without justifying all forms of theft/murder/etcetera) Thus, it is not objectionable to put criminals in jail, as well as to kill them, steal from them, rape them, etcetera.",,Anonymous,argumentation.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,,,1509897617 148073687,148115229,2017-11-05 16:00:20,">>148113798 You shouldn't do that.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509897620 148073687,148116144,2017-11-05 16:05:13,">>148078762 Liechtenstein.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509897913 148073687,148116468,2017-11-05 16:07:06,">>148073687 I agree with about 90% of ancapism, but I am still extremely skeptical of how an ancap society would deal with corporations poisoning their customers. What stops them from dumping toxic waste into the surrounding environment or using toxic materials in products? Yes, I realize this happens even today with govt, but our govt is not a good example of an effective govt. At least an effective govt could hypothetically deal with this, there is no hypothetical method by which a stateless society deals with this. Don't say the customers will take their business elsewhere, this is blatantly false. People ARE NOT rational, and not only would they first have to somehow magically find out that they are being poisoned and what the source of that poisoning is, but they would then collectively have to take their business ""elsewhere"". This is not realistic and never happens even today. People don't care about the toxic components of much of what is produced even today and continue to consume. Seems like the only way to deal with this is to have a singular, authoritative regulatory agency that through force can check products and practices for being harmful to the populace, and then use force to shut it down when necessary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509898026 148073687,148116818,2017-11-05 16:09:12,">>148107627 >Could you name one such argument? I addition to some of the statements made in this thread, here are some statements made by prominent ancaps (Rothbard and others) using economic arguments to advocate their political philosophy. 1)""lacks the information function of market prices, and that central authority over the economy leads to totalitarianism. "" 2)""Rothbard disagreed with this, as he explains in The Spooner-Tucker Doctrine: An Economist's View. He says that first of all Tucker was wrong to think that that would cause the money supply to increase, because he says that the money supply in a free market would be self-regulating. "" 3)""Furthermore, Linda and Morris Tannehill argue that no coercive monopoly of force can arise on a truly free market and that a government's citizenry can't desert them in favor of a competent protection and defense agency."" 4)""Edward Stringham argues that private adjudication of disputes could enable the market to internalize externalities and provide services that customers desire."" 5)""Defense is a service like any other service; that it is labor both useful and desired, and therefore an economic commodity subject to the law of supply and demand; that in a free market this commodity would be furnished at the cost of production; that, competition prevailing, patronage would go to those who furnished the best article at the lowest price"" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509898152 148073687,148117030,2017-11-05 16:10:27,">>148116468 >I am still extremely skeptical of how an ancap society would deal with corporations poisoning their customers If people don't like or trust a producer or their products they stop buying them. Hundreds of thousands of businesses have gone under because of bad press and general consumer perceptions. If you buy a medicine and it makes you feel awful and doesn't help you, you stop buying it. Most people do the same.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509898227 148073687,148117285,2017-11-05 16:11:51,How is Libertarianism on wildlife and nature conservation and preservation?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509898311 148073687,148118202,2017-11-05 16:16:31,">>148116818 1) lacks context for the part before the comma, so if you're only referencing >central authority over the economy leads to totalitarianism That's not an economic argument, that's both deductively true due to the nature of centralized force and historically true by observation. 2) Is a prediction of future states of affairs based on observations of what people tend to do. Currencies go up or down in value depending on how people value them as a medium of exchange on the marketplace - that's a true observation.",,Praceteom,,,,,1509898591 148073687,148118270,2017-11-05 16:16:53,">>148117285 Here's my opinion: If you can keep the stuff you pump into the air on your property, the stuff you put into the ground from sinking into underground rivers and leaving your property, Etc., that fine. But if you cause pollution, and that pollution gets into the land of someone who doesn't want that on their land, that would be illegal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509898613 148073687,148118503,2017-11-05 16:18:08,">>148117030 >If people don't like or trust a producer or their products they stop buying them. Not going to happen when the product is otherwise good and wanted, just toxic. Look at plastic food and drink containers today for example. They all contain xenoestrogens and are fucking up the male population, but it is perfectly legal to have those compounds in there (just like it would be in ancapistan) and the free market has no solution because A: most people don't know, and those who DO know don't care, don't have any other option. B: it does not affect the profit of the companies. How do you deal with this without passing an outright ban on these chemicals and throwing any CEO who keeps that stuff in their products into jail?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509898688 148073687,148118515,2017-11-05 16:18:13,">>148117285 littering waste on any property you down own is an assault against them, however you can make a good living by using your property as a proper waste dump. I personally love wildlife and would seek to conserve it regardless of whatever monetary reward there may be to destroying their enviorment. I think many others would too. I think a privatized system would be more kind to nature than one might assume.",,Anonymous,Nature.png,j70Uf7fHWMbQeydgPiCceA==,,,1509898693 148073687,148119190,2017-11-05 16:21:59,">>148118503 >Not going to happen when the product is otherwise good and wanted Then people don't seem to have an issue - they're satisfied with their own decisions. Cigarettes and alcohol are toxic - are you also for government banning those because people nevertheless buy them? If you're not, isn't that an inconsistency to hold you want government bureaucrats to come in and tell everyone what to do (or else) in regard to some things that are unhealthy and not others?",,Praceteom,,,,,1509898919 148252604,148252604,2017-11-06 12:12:51,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. A reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: DeBka RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) -http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - Seehttps://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >https://8 * h.net/anarchy",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,ancap.png,D9ikNG520Gy30il4S2DOVQ==,,,1509970371 148827138,148827138,2017-11-10 09:20:46,"I Don't Have The OP Pasta, Somebody Post The OP Pasta Edition",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,modern_gadsden.png,I3bzAZP8jVc46tJTx5XsNw==,,,1510305646 148827138,148827164,2017-11-10 09:21:03,,,Anonymous,1507763590801.jpg,UGAuKCXjQern7FIY6tdt2w==,,,1510305663 148827138,148827270,2017-11-10 09:22:01,,,Anonymous,1507061182187.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1510305721 148827138,148827431,2017-11-10 09:23:46,,,Anonymous,1507061418432.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,,,1510305826 148827138,148827511,2017-11-10 09:24:47,,,Anonymous,1505076957230.jpg,JAxwYC7ARKlyd1s4OfFYCw==,,,1510305887 148827138,148827644,2017-11-10 09:26:15,"Libertarianism died with Ron Paul's campaign. Also it doesn't solve the problem of capitalism",,Anonymous,b474d33d784b5f0ef002a27513765163547ee78d.jpg,M7yYmVFJZ1/WqNVLWx6cDA==,US,,1510305975 148827138,148827654,2017-11-10 09:26:23,,,Anonymous,1502756699736.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,,,1510305983 148827138,148827883,2017-11-10 09:28:46,">>148827644 Please describe this ""problem of capitalism""",,Anonymous,1502467325733.png,np3q2NBDG6JBqSmDskxH3w==,,,1510306126 148827138,148827929,2017-11-10 09:29:17,">>148827644 >implying there is a problem with free-market capitalism",,Anonymous,1505171731179.jpg,gACNdGRm/ZG0bH4S5IX7VA==,,,1510306157 148827138,148828162,2017-11-10 09:32:01,">>148827883 Capitalism, not leftism is responsible for: porn, drugs, sexual degeneracy, consumerist culture, birth control, mass immigration. shitty pop music, sports ball game viewers etc",,Anonymous,1395018386863.jpg,3fLzkytNAVzwkPjG8O8TKQ==,US,,1510306321 148827138,148828643,2017-11-10 09:36:58,">>148828162 No. Socialist technocracy is responsible for: porn, drugs, sexual degeneracy, consumerist culture, birth control, mass immigration. shitty pop music, sports ball game viewers etc In the absence of government safety nets and incentives not to be productive, these things become a net loss for individuals. Excessive porn and drugs consume time that could be used building skills and making money. Sexual degeneracy destroys any prospect of a stable, healthy family that can survive without welfare. Consumerist culture is by and large pushed by cronyist monopolies that have a revolving door in DC. Shitty pop music is entirely a control scheme by technocrats. Sports ball viewers are enabled by unemployment benefits. End the state subsidy and social engineering of degenerate society, and degenerate society disappears.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510306618 148827138,148829010,2017-11-10 09:41:07,">>148828162 Those are all the result of a centrally planned society. Virtually all children of the west are forced to go through public education, apply to college, and get one of a limited range of jobs. They aren't permitted any autonomy with their lives, except in frivolous areas. Desperate to feel some sense of self, useless commodities like porn, recreational drugs, video games, movies, comics, and recreational sex products appear. It's no surprise that historical noblemen are known to have been equally decadent; their lives are set out before them and their autonomy is robbed from them. To undo this, we must destroy the government, free the market, and restore autonomy to the white man and his family. (Leftism is, incidentally, also a consequence of the centrally planned nature of the contemporary west, because neurotic women are put in charge of our children in public schools; their neurosis spreads to the children through oversocialization (see the Unabomber's Manifesto) and manifests as modern leftism.) Mass immigration is also the result of a centrally planned society. If everyone had full control of his own property, immigration couldn't possibly occur in the waves we see today, because that would necessitate that equally large waves of property-owners would be willing to sell to the migrants.",,Anonymous,hazlitt.jpg,tewu7BFqriXtYsLTxuu2ow==,,,1510306867 148827138,148829634,2017-11-10 09:47:38,">>148828643 >Socialist technocracy is responsible this doesn't exist though >In the absence of government safety nets and incentives not to be productive, these things become a net loss for individuals. these are produced without safety net and generate an income..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510307258 148827138,148830080,2017-11-10 09:52:22,">Those are all the result of a centrally planned society. Virtually all children of the west are forced to go through public education, apply to college, and get one of a limited range of jobs. They aren't permitted any autonomy with their lives, except in frivolous areas. Desperate to feel some sense of self, useless commodities like porn, recreational drugs, video games, movies, comics, and recreational sex products appear However you can't prove any of this. What can be proved is that degeneracy is profitable and will continue as long as capitalism continues. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/18/protesters-in-barcelona-urge-spain-to-take-in-more-refugees >Tens of thousands of people marched through Barcelona on Saturday urging the Spanish government to immediately meet its pledge to take in thousands of refugees. Mass immigration is good for capitalism as it brings wages down and through the media they have created a culture of acceptance. Large amounts of the population are on board with mass immigration and if we had only private property these people will still come in.",,Anonymous,30462.jpg,cEUgCoIsPgqp76eEI6bEpg==,US,,1510307542 148827138,148830118,2017-11-10 09:52:49,">>148829634 They generate an income from degenerate people. Instagram whores, camwhores, and consumerism would not be successful in a market populated by a robust society due to the need to generate value in free markets. The people who purchase the services of degenerates are themselves leeches.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510307569 148827138,148830445,2017-11-10 09:56:21,">>148830118 You're assuming everything you don't like collects welfare. That isn't true. capitalism degenerates all levels of society not just welfare leeches. Also you sound like you have little knowledge of how these companies make money. Most of the revenue comes from ads and not purchases. That is why so much of it is free or very cheap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510307781 148827138,148831260,2017-11-10 10:04:43,">>148830080 >Mass immigration is good for capitalism as it brings wages down Mass immigration as it is currently happening (unskilled labor moving somewhere to not work, leech off the state, and depress wages) is only possible with a state. Even in a theoretical wonder-world of free trade with no tariffs, masses of African and Middle Eastern Muslims would never immigrate to the West because their skills are in ZERO demand and they have nothing to offer that automation can't provide. Even with no minimum wage, whatever wage their skills COULD buy wouldn't pay for cost of living. The current migration paradigm is not capitalism, it is technocracy and socialism. >>148830445 You're not backing up your claim that capitalism degenerates. Tell me how. I've told you why it doesn't, tell me why it does. And not everybody collects welfare, but, for example, the poor Hispanics in my family who have children far too young, are single mothers, or are involved in gangs are all getting an SSI check and a child credit. They are being incentivized to be degenerate. There is no punishment, only the coddling hand of the state. Go ahead and tell me fatherlessness and single motherhood in black communities is because of capitalism. Tell me the free market is enabling their degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510308283 148827138,148831868,2017-11-10 10:10:27,">>148831260 >Mass immigration as it is currently happening (unskilled labor moving somewhere to not work, leech off the state, and depress wages) is only possible with a state. Even in a theoretical wonder-world of free trade with no tariffs, masses of African and Middle Eastern Muslims would never immigrate to the West because their skills are in ZERO demand and they have nothing to offer that automation can't provide. Even with no minimum wage, whatever wage their skills COULD buy wouldn't pay for cost of living. The current migration paradigm is not capitalism, it is technocracy and socialism. There is an entire culture willing to feed and clothes these people even with the absence of a state.",,Anonymous,r0_41_3680_2110_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg,I7vf2VZTcFmxK2GbntrqHg==,US,,1510308627 148827138,148832108,2017-11-10 10:12:34,">>148831260 >You're not backing up your claim that capitalism degenerates. Tell me how. I've told you why it doesn't, tell me why it does Yes i have, here >>148828162 Capitalism, not leftism is responsible for: porn, drugs, sexual degeneracy, consumerist culture, birth control, mass immigration. shitty pop music, sports ball game viewers etc these are produced without safety net and generate an income..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510308754 148827138,148832709,2017-11-10 10:18:19,">>148832108 Yeah, and the Nazis on the moon are responsible for the Jewish conspiracy. Tell me HOW. >>148831868 The degeneracy, masochism, and cultural self-destruction of Europe was brought about by socialist and technocratic institutions. The European Union, the media (such as the BBC), schooling, everything in Europe is designed from the top-down to convince Europeans that they are not valuable and that brown people are the deserving inheritors of their countries. It has succeeded. I'm curious if, safety net gone and state minimized, Europeans would voluntarily host refugees and pay for them to live in a flat and do nothing but rape pre-teen girls.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510309099 148827138,148832882,2017-11-10 10:19:57,">>148828162 The rich can afford to be decadent. As necessities like food and shelter become so cheap no one really worries about them, they indulge in decadence. >mass immigration This isn't caused by capitalism. So many illegals get welfare through stolen SS#'s that the state is actually subsidizing cheap labor. If there was no welfare at all many immigrants would leave.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510309197 148827138,148833002,2017-11-10 10:21:06,">>148827511 Checked. I fucking chuckled.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510309266 148827138,148833278,2017-11-10 10:23:30,">>148832709 >Yeah, and the Nazis on the moon are responsible for the Jewish conspiracy. Tell me HOW. >strawmanning >Tell me HOW. these are produced without safety net and generate an income. ive said this several times are you just ignoring reality now? >The degeneracy, masochism, and cultural self-destruction of Europe was brought about by socialist and technocratic institutions Even if the government has something to do with it. People willingly accept this and given the choice they would continue it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510309410 148827138,148833552,2017-11-10 10:26:19,">>148827138 a gift from one side to the other",,Anonymous,ALPHASNAKE.png,BQJn8Bh+OD4jc+A8/yz8rQ==,,,1510309579 148827138,148833680,2017-11-10 10:27:32,Cringe: The Thread,,Anonymous,,,,,1510309652 148827138,148833880,2017-11-10 10:29:17,">>148833680 sir cringing when the cringe was not intended by the subject that you are cringing at is tantamount to self-defense against a peaceful party which is not allowed under the NAP",,Anonymous,,,,,1510309757 148827138,148834042,2017-11-10 10:30:50,">>148833278 I've already told you that degenerate products and services are primary bought by degenerate people who are primarily state dependents. For example, if Coca-Cola is a prime example of consumerist excess, then consider that their dominance is the result of cronyist New Deal corn subsidies inducing a perpetual surplus of high fructose corn syrup, and the majority consumer base for Coca-Cola is fat-bodied dependents who get healthcare subsidies to pay for them to stay alive and be fat instead of dying. Healthy, productive, fit people don't drink Coke. Now tell me how free markets are enabling degeneracy when there are basically no free markets in the US today. Subsidies, cronyism, and competitor regulation rule the day.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510309850 148827138,148835116,2017-11-10 10:41:04,Aesthetics,,Anonymous,20171107172402_glitch.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,US,,1510310464 148827138,148835771,2017-11-10 10:47:24,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1504535969000.jpg,uRDNRYfpXAnIsqkFwYlaeQ==,US,,1510310844 148827138,148835778,2017-11-10 10:47:29,"I’ve been musing about the inevitable “roads” prompt when discussing politics and have thought of something that would be considered a middle-ground approach. I’m interested in hearing your thoughts if you’d hear me out. Roads (in America) are currently funded largely by general tax such as income and sales tax. This system indiscriminately places the burden on infrastructure tax on all constituents located within the tax code’s area. I believe that a system which funds roads (other infrastructure) entirely from “gas-taxes” and associated fees provides a better economic model. The changes would (hopefully) result in infrastructure being funded solely by people who benefit from it, rewarding uninvolved parties for avoiding unnecessary consumption. The following incentives might be created: >Incentivize purchasing fuel-efficient vehicles and limiting unnecessary travel >Incentivize practices which increase transportation efficiency, such as carpooling and using ridesharing services >Facilitate “voting with your wallet” by more directly funding your preferred method of transport (personal vehicle, carpool, bus, or metro) >Promote local businesses as they will likely spend less money in transporting goods, providing a potential cost advantage (this is currently true, although to a much lesser extent) I think this is an interesting concept, but it is in no way perfect. I am challenged when thinking where bicycles fall into this system, as they also utilize roads but do not pay for gasoline or vehicle taxes. I’m open to any ideas on that one. The above system would also benefit from the removal of government limitations on ride-sharing services, such as taxi medallions and laws limiting the development and implementation of autonomous cars. This is something that we can contact our representatives about already, so please consider it. Again, interested in hearing your thoughts. Thanks for reading.",,Anonymous,,,NP,,1510310849 148827138,148836778,2017-11-10 10:57:03,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-09-04.47.15.jpg,OF/TAZvcDQ/62BSoz+Xa+w==,US,,1510311423 148827138,148837122,2017-11-10 11:00:00,">>148833278 Degenerates who buy drugs/pornography instead of food would quickly starve in the street. The social safety net provides for the basics (shelter, food, water, clothing) so any money that they get can go toward crack, WoW subscriptions, smut, etc. Capitalism cannot eliminate the animal desires of consumers, but neither can socialism. The socialist idea of success when it comes to repressing degeneracy is to make everyone so poor that they cannot afford the time or money that pursuing degeneracy costs i.e. you can't bang hookers when you have to spend 80+ hours a week standing online for bread, salt, and gasoline and have nothing of value besides unskilled labor to trade. Grinding poverty for everyone to somewhat reduce degenerate behavior is a bad exchange. I suppose now you'll suggest that the state can jail or execute everyone who makes pornography, hooks, or manufactures drugs and I'll remind you of America's grand experiment with the prohibition of alcohol.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510311600 148827138,148838778,2017-11-10 11:15:27,,,Anonymous,1505681310172.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,US,,1510312527 148827138,148838930,2017-11-10 11:16:50,">>148827138 Is pic related really what you guys look like in real life?",,Anonymous,libertarians.jpg,Hvj2dKPyQWFTQNn631MDrQ==,,,1510312610 148827138,148839000,2017-11-10 11:17:29,">>148835771 I love that guy. I bought his book.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510312649 148827138,148839230,2017-11-10 11:19:34,"Hhhmmmm, a Lolbertarian thread. This I can get behind.",,Anonymous,3638201a-704c-49f3-8b3a-549fcc9e58ba.jpg,T8w39/GIyQUMuHc+opZzNw==,US,,1510312774 148827138,148839379,2017-11-10 11:21:01,">>148838930 Yeah, 7 rando kids represent this board.",,Anonymous,BTFO.jpg,gphbmmapjqseAz3Oj8bOfw==,US,,1510312861 148827138,148839392,2017-11-10 11:21:07,">>148827138 This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",,Anonymous,servizio-ausiliario-rsi.jpg,+yVlg4j8J6g70CofyolTxQ==,,,1510312867 148827138,148839953,2017-11-10 11:26:18,who here would a 2/10 open border libertarian?,,Anonymous,bring your dick.jpg,b37u+9nORDVavXGIWPNjEQ==,,,1510313178 148827138,148840731,2017-11-10 11:33:32,"Can someone refute this pic? I used to be a libertarian but I cannot help but think that materialism and the death of God is the cause of all the decadence of the west. There's also the fact that libertarianism requires free will and if you believe in materialism free will is impossible.",,Anonymous,evolacapitalism.jpg,9H+ecmljLXQu0By9xiJXEA==,US,,1510313612 148827138,148840751,2017-11-10 11:33:40,">>148838930 So. Fucking. What Kiddo!?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510313620 148827138,148841894,2017-11-10 11:44:14,">>148840731 He is right, but it is only a point against left-libertarians. Because the economic preferences that are the sum of human interaction in given society is dependant on this specific society and not a system. Hence every form of socialistic/governmental intervention must be prevented to save the purity of those human interactions. and the free market is a non-system, which will allow our societies to manifest their economic preferences in themselves. I see it more as a critic to patriotic socialists than libertarians, especially hoppeans nowaday.",,Anonymous,wehrmafu.jpg,DMcJdTxQOO/YSBe9ovzXtw==,,,1510314254 148827138,148842557,2017-11-10 11:50:00,,,Anonymous,5c1659eb5ae263be7d4a81b5744a0fc7cac35e6646ac68640efc2cdbf8dbadfd.jpg,eenUknxeWjx46VrmuRRleQ==,,,1510314600 148827138,148842737,2017-11-10 11:51:33,">>148827138 What happens to national monuments and historic sights and buildings under libertarian right?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510314693 148827138,148842872,2017-11-10 11:53:01,">>148842557 His hatred for democracy makes me wet.",,Anonymous,hoppe knows what women want.png,Uvjx9UjzJD1sbUeJEkjGkQ==,,,1510314781 148827138,148842963,2017-11-10 11:53:55,Cringe thread.,,Anonymous,1510098055250.png,Lg6Je6XTjGiFQiNiRsZuGA==,,,1510314835 148827138,148842991,2017-11-10 11:54:08,">>148842737 Nothing, some private art collector can keep it up if they want...",,Anonymous,,,,,1510314848 148827138,148843023,2017-11-10 11:54:28,">>148842737 >What happens to national monuments and historic sights and buildings under libertarian right? The same as when aristocracy and not the state owned them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510314868 148827138,148843410,2017-11-10 11:57:50,>>148843023,,Anonymous,hoppean gf.png,IyoGhpzOg0P5ON5ZNvMkOQ==,,,1510315070 148827138,148843748,2017-11-10 12:00:56,">>148842991 Okay, so just being clear they'd all inevitably go? Once somebody buys them out and decides to build tower blocks over them because that makes market sense then there's nothing to protect them? Not bashing, just wasn't quite clear what a nationalist libertarian or conservative libertarian position would be over its national symbols, sites and treasures, or its historic traditions. Seems contradictory to me.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510315256 148827138,148844278,2017-11-10 12:05:30,">>148843748 I, myself, would be more than willing to privately donate funds to an organization dedicated to the preservation of historical monuments, and I'm certain many others would, also.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510315530 148827138,148844320,2017-11-10 12:05:46,">>148841894 I may be a brainlet here, but are you saying that the economy doesn't matter in a sense? I'm pretty sure that Evola thought something similar in that economical matters are for degenerated bourgeoisie, and I'm starting to think that monarchism and feudalism is the correct way to go, since they both practiced a hands off approach to economics, as well as cultivated the moral integrity of the people, with the help of the church.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510315546 148827138,148845537,2017-11-10 12:16:31,">>148844320 I am coming from evola, and I always thought we don't need an economic system, just human interaction as he said and I also hated on capitalism for many years since I thought it is the system we have now, but then I came into contact with right libertarians 2 years ago or so and what they saw as capitalism is what I saw as a non-system so basically It was just different words for the same thing and since then I like libertarians.",,Anonymous,libertarian imoutos.jpg,r/OV7uYImTs8Au1w9ocg4w==,,,1510316191 148827138,148846554,2017-11-10 12:25:14,>>148842963,,Anonymous,1506803640620.png,5hELD8kTeWo+KjUzHsEoGQ==,,,1510316714 148827138,148846614,2017-11-10 12:25:52,">>148844320 There's no reason why social organizations like churches, fraternal orders, or citizens clubs cannot function under capitalistic or democratic regimes assuming there is sufficient civil liberties. Undermining the church and other social fabric institutions was the goal of the socialists who wished to supplant voluntary organizations with the state. They wanted to leave no alternatives to the state for the needs and desires of the citizenry. Capitalists who desire the breakdown of the family would have to be extraordinarily ignorant. Married men work harder and for more hours than any other sort of employee. Families with children spend vastly more money than singles and single parents.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510316752 148827138,148846783,2017-11-10 12:27:20,">>148846554 >tfw he didn't shoot himself >tfw it was a cyanide pill >tfw your autistic",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510316840 148827138,148846926,2017-11-10 12:28:34,">>148842963 >embrace a third position kek",,Anonymous,centrism.jpg,9iXSGnlY82W6kaTWeWlNWQ==,,,1510316914 148827138,148847196,2017-11-10 12:31:03,">>148846783 that does not in any way change the meaning behind the image you mongoloid, go back to fucking snowmen and getting fucked by muslims",,Anonymous,,,,,1510317063 148827138,148847259,2017-11-10 12:31:40,">>148830080 >people mentality shaped through public education is a result of the free market system You can't blame the free market system when there's no free market system in the area that is most relevant to the phenomena at hand.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510317100 148827138,148847689,2017-11-10 12:34:39,">>148842963 When you try and convince people that your statist, authoritarian collectivism is different from the collectivist, authoritarian statism of the guys you don't like. Nazis are cute when they talk about their 3rd way which is more aptly knockoff communism for bigoted slaves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510317279 148827138,148848254,2017-11-10 12:39:13,">>148846783 göbbels cyanided himself, not hitler",,Anonymous,,,,,1510317553 148827138,148848882,2017-11-10 12:44:16,">>148846614 We don't live in socialism, we live in neoliberal paradise. It's true that the socialists directly attacked the church through overt violence, but I would say that the current neoliberal order also did the same, but more covertly, by manipulating the desires of people towards materialism, making the church unimportant for most people, killing them spiritually. Capitalists want cheap labor, and doubling the work force means cutting your labor costs in half. >>148847259 I don't think that's true, the capitalists use the mass media to sway public opinion towards degeneracy. How is that not a result of capitalist ideology of muh shekels?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510317856 148827138,148849071,2017-11-10 12:46:03,">>148827138 Although on prima facie, it looks ugly, I really like the angles. It fits in with the equally distinct contrasts of color. Saved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510317963 148827138,148849635,2017-11-10 12:51:17,">>148849071 Here's another nice flag.",,Anonymous,libertarian flag.png,LUhN+1EtS2aguAKY9lrAzw==,,,1510318277 148827138,148849692,2017-11-10 12:51:46,">>148848882 >We don't live in socialism, we live in neoliberal paradise. neoliberalism is socialism light and has nothing to do with free markets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510318306 148827138,148849853,2017-11-10 12:53:09,>>148849635,,Anonymous,1493479238699.jpg,fqu4ycE4Q9Q8enNeJ4Q3qw==,DE,,1510318389 148827138,148850026,2017-11-10 12:54:31,">>148828643 Increased standards of living are responsible for degeneracy. As living standards increase, time for leisure increases, which means the amount of degeneracy increases also. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Capitalism has its benefits, but reducing the population of soft-minded consumers to soulless, consumerist bugmen is one of the results of a vast market of unessential products and time for leisure brought to us by increased standards of living.",,Anonymous,1510237196566.jpg,esMmgXTA8092ukLB51FPRg==,,,1510318471 148827138,148850104,2017-11-10 12:55:12,">>148840731 The quote is correct to the extent that since both communism and capitalism are modes of economic organization, they are necessarily concerned with the allocation of scarce resources and thus are concerned with what is material, which is not a particularly deep observation. As to the degree to which either capitalism or Marxism is supposed to be subversive, the validity of the statement depends critically on what is meant by ""subversive"", and in particular on what it is that is supposed to be subverted. But notice that this ""subversion"" is supposed to happen as a result of the fact that both ideologies are alleged to be materialistic, which means that it is neither capitalism nor marxism per se that can be said to be subversive, but rather materialism. To the extent that this should be taken to mean that material processes can radically transform old ways of life, I find that there is, again, nothing particularly profound about what is being said here. It is both a Marxist and Schumpeterian truth that the process of technological improvement must necessarily introduce new modes of social organization into the world, and that as a result more ""traditional"" forms have to fall by the wayside or be affected in some way by these new technologies. (For instance: the internet) But technological progress is neither capitalism nor marxism. It is its own thing. And if these types of processes be ""subversive"", and thus ""bad"" in Evola's eyes, then it would logically entail that, in order for Evola's vision to come to fruition, the ideal society would have to halt all technological progress so that its form could remain fixed in eternity. This seems to me to be perfectly consistent ideal of what the good life is. He has, in this sense, a Platonic vision of perfection as unchanging, and of change as corrupting, and this must include material changes, disconnected from so called ""transcendent"" or ""superior"" principles.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510318512 148827138,148850403,2017-11-10 12:57:46,">>148827138 How are you contributing to the development of your community?",,Anonymous,"Traditional headpieces are important; they help bind one to the group, affirm loytation, & discourage unmanly vanitie.jpg",NTz33Uy50Vu2AW1/Mdl1vA==,,,1510318666 148827138,148850528,2017-11-10 12:58:49,">>148827138 I have talked with many libertarians and it seems like libertarianism is an a priori choice. My question is why?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510318729 148827138,148850583,2017-11-10 12:59:13,>>148850403,,Anonymous,fascism better than sex you filthy degenerate.jpg,zumr9z38Cn2Mt8C8SBT3gw==,,,1510318753 148827138,148850801,2017-11-10 13:01:07,">>148845537 that image is correct, you read hoppe? jump on board then we need fascists to remove the leftists and shitskins so we may establish a proper covenant just fuck off with you totalitarian statist tendencies",,TPM,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1510318867 148827138,148850912,2017-11-10 13:02:02,">>148828643 How much of that do you see in china or ussr?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510318922 148827138,148850974,2017-11-10 13:02:38,">>148848882 >I don't think that's true, the capitalists use the mass media to sway public opinion towards degeneracy. How is that not a result of capitalist ideology of muh shekels? It depends on the phenomena we're considering here. Here it seems that you're referring to two things. (1) The mores of the people. (2) The refugee crisis. You then blame the free market system for the degradation of moral and for the inflow of refugee. This implies that, in the area that are relevant to the matter, there is in fact a private property system, and that it is this system that is somehow the cause of these phenomenon. In the case of (2), the refugee crisis, we simply know this to be false. Borders and their enforcement are a matter of state, and it has been a state decision not to enforce the borders or to sign treaties that were such that they encouraged politicians not to protect their countries' borders. Moreover, the government is forcibly taking the natives population money in order to subsidize the lives of illegal immigrants in the west. They steal money from people in order to provide migrant with shelter, food, pocket money, a rudiment of education and so on. Western governments moreover impose on their people speech and though standard that are such that protesting against this invasion is made quite difficult. This is all the more true since mandatory public schooling -- another series of acts of theft and coercion -- inculcate people with the state's religion, which in the west is centered around the idea that western people are guilty of historical crimes for which they must atone through the act of their own ethnic cleansing and progressive colonization by outside forces. Were those thing to happen without government intervention, you would have a point. But I doubt that people would, in a private property system, subsidize with their own money the welfare of culturally alien migrant on their property.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510318958 148827138,148851101,2017-11-10 13:03:55,">>148850026 >we must reduce people's standard of living That is certainly a program.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510319035 148827138,148851134,2017-11-10 13:04:11,">>148850801 >that image is correct, you read hoppe? yes and I love him",,Anonymous,hoppe crushes antifa.jpg,5Hp2VrNxw2xdfSq9s3zjWA==,,,1510319051 148827138,148851213,2017-11-10 13:04:50,">>148827138 why has /lrg/ been gone for so long, or have i just been missing it? i haven't been getting my daily dose of small government, individual liberties, and free markets.",,Anonymous,1482006614736.jpg,XlWbm/U0TmbqYNXOCUKqxA==,,,1510319090 148827138,148851311,2017-11-10 13:05:43,">>148827138 >governments are pushing jewish agenda >let's just get another government, i'm sure it will work When will /pol/ take the yellow pill?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510319143 148827138,148851414,2017-11-10 13:06:33,">>148851134 his latest speech was great! wasn't at an anti alt right thing too?",,TPM,state vs degeneracy.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1510319193 148827138,148851425,2017-11-10 13:06:37,">>148851311 >the yellow pill? qt chink gfs?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510319197 148827138,148851569,2017-11-10 13:07:57,">>148851425 qt chink gfs.... the bane of all White movements After all look at the finnish",,TPM,,,,,1510319277 148827138,148851640,2017-11-10 13:08:33,"There is a reason libertarians are a laughable minorities. Libertarianism is the ultimate cuck ideology >everything can do shit as long as my private property is secure! Libertarianism is mostly a cult composed of edgy college dropouts who think highly of themselves >if there was no communist taxes I would be a billionaire while you are extremely average people with self-esteem issues.",,Anonymous,1419627564565221848.jpg,g8nFe3PL3tg35KV+YbRs0g==,PL,,1510319313 148827138,148851676,2017-11-10 13:08:48,">>148851414 I remember when we were in the thread together and you made this pic. If you mean the speech about the alt right it was, pretty good.",,Anonymous,korwin x hoppe.jpg,nKJ7kB7sJk/MoqyOVpcmGg==,,,1510319328 148827138,148851710,2017-11-10 13:09:03,">>148848882 I mean, it's an interesting question: if it is the case that people left to their own devices are so degenerate as to cause loose moral, then why is it that degeneracy has to be taught in public school, and why is it that it is usually private religious school or home schoolers who wish to take these children out of this system? Moreover, do we really believe that ""degenerate"" academic disciplines such as queer studies, fat studies, and so on and so forth, would be able to survive without massive government subsidies at all level? The fact of the matter is that there is no place for these kinds of discipline in a private property order, simply because you cannot *force* people to pay for these idiotic activities without the state. A big contributor to degeneracy is this, that we live in a system where people are able to offload to cost of their bad decisions on other people. The gender constructionist who wish to waste his time in university getting a degree that will in no way shape or form improve is employability prospect is only able to do so because of the good graces of the state, who either subsidizes his education, the government jobs he'll be able to get after his education is complete, or the welfare he's gonna get as a result of his having graduated in that type of program.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510319343 148827138,148851824,2017-11-10 13:09:58,Also how is /anticom/? I heard one of your leaders is a degenerate bisexual.,,Anonymous,DJM1GI4UQAA2bgs.jpg large.jpg,19Ur+5Ly0H32BKXx6Z2Mgg==,PL,,1510319398 148827138,148852057,2017-11-10 13:11:56,">>148851676 korwin is the biggest example of a total sociopath, who is only vocal because he inherited a lot of money and knows how to scam people. He created at least 10 parties in his life time, totaly wasting everyones time, SIEG HEILING in public or saying that Hitler was a cool guy.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510319516 148827138,148852089,2017-11-10 13:12:11,">>148827644 I'm a small business owner who already pays way more into taxes than I get back. Fuck you",,Anonymous,,,,,1510319531 148827138,148852117,2017-11-10 13:12:25,">>148851569 >fell for one >to much of a coward to make a move and scare her away >chink manlet probably bangs her now All I wanted was to conquer a piece for Rome, but those sneaky yellow working drones ruined it - Abessinia all over again",,Anonymous,squadrismo-3.jpg,oXxO5YL6pn50HPUHxA222w==,,,1510319545 148827138,148852143,2017-11-10 13:12:37,">>148850026 False. As living standards increase, this is evidence that productivity and efficiency increases -- so while people can occasionally afford more leisure time, there are also productive tasks they can take on that did not exist before, and which have opened up thanks to the efficiency elimination of obsolete labor tasks. So in a society that is technologically advanced with a high standard of living, one can just as easily work 60-80 hour work weeks on a job that nobody would have imagined 100 years before. Now, you seem to believe that in leisure time, people will only choose degeneracy -- I disagree. I largely think degeneracy is a result of cities. Cities come with the advantage of hyper-specialization, but the disadvantage of basically everything else. People are not tied to the supply side of the economic engine at all, and live in very close proximity; this leads to the corrupt, ignorant sort of culture that breeds leftism and degeneracy. If we consciously move towards the more agrarian, less-dense society the Founders lived in during the Enlightenment, we, like them, could be highly productive polymaths with property and families and much better things to do than have sex-dungeons full of strangers. But the rejection of the city seems like a personal fantasy. I don't know how we rid ourselves of them, while maintaining some small degree of the hyper-specialization that'll take us to Mars and the asteroids.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510319557 148827138,148852173,2017-11-10 13:12:52,">>148827138 we can all agree that communism is garbage",,Anonymous,stirner-beats-marx.jpg,zpP89oC58stdCPXZU5bwRg==,US,,1510319572 148827138,148852196,2017-11-10 13:13:00,">>148851676 Made that pic? i make some memes tho never seen them reposted",,TPM,You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Liberty.jpg,8YssLLfN+SCgyLYrS+s15g==,,,1510319580 148827138,148852257,2017-11-10 13:13:29,">>148852057 >making fun of muh democracy doesn't sound half bad",,Anonymous,,,,,1510319609 148827138,148852288,2017-11-10 13:13:47,">>148852089 You want a medal, faggot?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510319627 148827138,148852341,2017-11-10 13:14:07,">>148852057 probably, but those are the types that get things done, and we are here shitposting",,TPM,,,,,1510319647 148827138,148852451,2017-11-10 13:14:54,">>148852117 then conquer rome, and take some white concubines, problem solved",,TPM,,,,,1510319694 148827138,148852467,2017-11-10 13:15:04,">>148852257 you wouldn't be laughing if you wasted hours working in a campaign for him, when near end he spews some autistic shit like this and your whole work goes to shit, but I guess volenti non fit inuria",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510319704 148827138,148852495,2017-11-10 13:15:15,">>148852196 the one you posted, we had a discussion about subhumans who are begging for a state because they can't contain their degeneracy",,Anonymous,,,,,1510319715 148827138,148852558,2017-11-10 13:15:44,">>148851824 Big corporations lobby big government to legislate on their behalf while the government pretends to be for the people. Of course Walmart can afford to follow more regulations, it's the smaller shops that can't afford it and go out of business as a result that guarantee Walmart's monopoly and dominance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510319744 148827138,148852590,2017-11-10 13:15:55,>>148827511,,Anonymous,15618sd16as1d56as4d65a4s6.jpg,AJ/mEO8x/+Je832GA2Oh3Q==,US,,1510319755 148827138,148852622,2017-11-10 13:16:10,">>148852341 >gets things done no, korwin was 20 times trying to get elected and succeeded once, he is a total fucking faggot, he suport kid diddling and says that rape is ok",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510319770 148827138,148852712,2017-11-10 13:16:58,">>148852451 >implying I haven't tried this until now. seems the only option is honorable suicide by police.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510319818 148827138,148852726,2017-11-10 13:17:01,">>148852117 >he doesn't have snow fever Never gonna make it.",,Anonymous,akb.jpg,RjS0tx+qkt0UfrNuE6/xTw==,CA,,1510319821 148827138,148852830,2017-11-10 13:17:48,">>148852558 Big corporations are better because they have higher salaries and are much more stable than your mythical ""moms and pops"" kike stores which have astronomical prices. Its in the govt interest to regulate corporations since the nation benefits the most from them.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510319868 148827138,148852914,2017-11-10 13:18:31,who here wanna join my ancap community where we ritually sacrifice a keynesian economist and jew effigy on the last sunday of every month?,,Anonymous,1504485988687.jpg,eXgjtzwuPvHc71y3zC2rSQ==,US,,1510319911 148827138,148852958,2017-11-10 13:18:51,">>148827138 Can somebody please explain to me how private roads would work? I know private companies would build and maintain them, but how would they profit off of them? Would it not be possible to simply block an opposing company by closing the roads connecting to them for 'maintenance'? Would it take ten toll booths to go to work?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510319931 148827138,148853052,2017-11-10 13:19:35,">>148852830 >Its in the govt interest to regulate corporations since the nation benefits the most from them. If the nation benefits from them then why regulate (limit) them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510319975 148827138,148853111,2017-11-10 13:20:04,">>148852726 Don't worry I don't like chinks, only that one and this option is gone by now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510320004 148827138,148853124,2017-11-10 13:20:15,">>148852914 why not an keynesian jew? and 2 of them",,TPM,,,,,1510320015 148827138,148853184,2017-11-10 13:20:41,">>148827138 Paleolibertarianism here",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510320041 148827138,148853197,2017-11-10 13:20:47,">>148848882 You should not force people into being good. Morals enforced at gunpoint aren't virtues, it's slavery. Citizens, not the state and definitely not the state through crony middlemen, are responsible for educating people in the value of freedom and propriety. Free people benefit from persuading others to respect liberty and the value of self government. Statists want slaves and quite logically , for them, promote slavery. They shouldn't be considered capitalists so much as people who desire the wealth economic freedom brings.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510320047 148827138,148853254,2017-11-10 13:21:13,">>148853052 cause once the corporation get big enough they lobby the government to limit any possible competition.",,TPM,,,,,1510320073 148827138,148853294,2017-11-10 13:21:34,">>148853052 Because those regulations make corporations stable. Also why wont all these smart and courages ANCAP and libertarian types go to some destitute african country and start building their paradise there?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510320094 148827138,148853380,2017-11-10 13:22:13,">>148853124 why not 4 to compensate for the inflation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510320133 148827138,148853477,2017-11-10 13:22:55,">>148852495 ahh, good chat heres a rare pino",,TPM,Emergency pino.jpg,K2KypfpznT/2gnLq7akLEw==,,,1510320175 148827138,148853551,2017-11-10 13:23:30,">>148839392 Noice.",,Anonymous,1481433872523.png,btzjv+pDoIU9saJ0BTEZ/Q==,,,1510320210 148827138,148853559,2017-11-10 13:23:35,">>148853380 at that rate we'd need 8 just keep up with demand",,TPM,,,,,1510320215 148827138,148853600,2017-11-10 13:23:58,">>148853124 >>148853380 i like the way you guys think",,Anonymous,1503768260167.png,HMgum2dSsnMEefhkdAzQ8g==,US,,1510320238 148827138,148853640,2017-11-10 13:24:14,">>148827138 We need more badass libertarian flags",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510320254 148827138,148853757,2017-11-10 13:25:16,>>148853640,,Anonymous,1503014685614.png,GBimPiiG3tVle3O9heDI6A==,US,,1510320316 148827138,148853758,2017-11-10 13:25:17,">>148852958 The Illinois tollroad (by it's own instruction pamphlet) says it's entirely funded by tolls. Also the iPass works in Indiana. I think there'll be connecting roads between tollway companies (they're not really competing as they're in different regions) and it'll probably be more expensive like a wire transfer at a bank. I'm sure they'll make some agreements to use a standard tolling device like an iPass, as the more convenient it is the more likely consumers will enter the tollway. There'll also be freeways with tons of shops on the side and a lot of traffic-lights. Those will be maintained by the businesses surrounding the freeway themselves. My question is, how does private traffic enforcement work on a privatized system?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510320317 148827138,148853772,2017-11-10 13:25:21,">>148853111 I don't even dislike asians desu.",,Anonymous,ak2.jpg,3H9TiTKW2O57KQWIz479bg==,CA,,1510320321 148827138,148853871,2017-11-10 13:26:11,">>148853294 why leave the land my forefather conquered to achieve the SAME goals i wanna achieve?",,TPM,1492886989833.jpg,+eLcC2LwnnFANDfPRSjIkg==,,,1510320371 148827138,148853880,2017-11-10 13:26:19,">>148853757 I N S P I R I N G",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510320379 148827138,148853886,2017-11-10 13:26:24,"Countries where libertarians rule: ....................................................................",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510320384 148827138,148853973,2017-11-10 13:27:04,">>148853871 Why not? Rhodesia is calling.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510320424 148827138,148853979,2017-11-10 13:27:06,>>148853640,,Anonymous,PicsArt_09-19-09.05.27.jpg,Ho5R+Pol5O+kfCDGGwkctw==,US,,1510320426 148827138,148853987,2017-11-10 13:27:08,">>148853886 Liechtenstein.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510320428 148827138,148854050,2017-11-10 13:27:37,">>148853871 you are just a coward, why subjugate other to the libertarian hell hole, when a vast majority of the country(even world) rejects it?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510320457 148827138,148854113,2017-11-10 13:28:03,">>148853294 There has been many attempts to create an ancap state. Can you imagine how it ended?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510320483 148827138,148854135,2017-11-10 13:28:13,">>148853757 we need something aside from flags that he carries... after all it will go on a flag.",,TPM,,,,,1510320493 148827138,148854185,2017-11-10 13:28:31,">>148853987 its a tax heaven - more companies registered than citizens, also why wont you immigrate there tough guy?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510320511 148827138,148854295,2017-11-10 13:29:20,">>148854113 yes I can, autists can't form states",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510320560 148827138,148854358,2017-11-10 13:29:51,"Time to evolve. Fascism is the real deal.",,Anonymous,fascism 101.png,K95kbefwED2tyI8Ca+JKdg==,,,1510320591 148827138,148854366,2017-11-10 13:29:54,">>148853772 I am only interested in japs, but I don't consider them yellow. Chinks are ok but never found them attractive or cute, except the one I've met.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510320594 148827138,148854392,2017-11-10 13:30:05,">>148853294 >Because those regulations make corporations stable. If the corporations become unstable of their own actions then isn't it about time their competitor take the lead and defeat them? Maybe their purpose is done (for example they sell obsolete technology) and it's time for them to fail and either reform or disappear.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510320605 148827138,148854432,2017-11-10 13:30:22,">>148828643 Do you know what a technocracy is?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510320622 148827138,148854439,2017-11-10 13:30:24,how do we deal with the fractional reserve and central bank jew?,,Anonymous,1499605025342.jpg,0C+nXUKCwqgMtlYohZsrIg==,US,,1510320624 148827138,148854460,2017-11-10 13:30:35,">>148854050 how am i a coward for not wanting to runaway from my home turf, that was founded for my ideals? and fuck those guys that reject it, they live wrong and don't even realize it, also why do you think we should go to africa? shittiest place in the world, second only to india",,TPM,,,,,1510320635 148827138,148854529,2017-11-10 13:31:08,">>148854185 >also why wont you immigrate there tough guy? Though immigration laws, you have to have high income and to win in an immigration lottery or you must be invited by the Fürst personally.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510320668 148827138,148854607,2017-11-10 13:31:38,">builds a road >put a toll on it >it becomes extremely busy and the most popular destination to a city >one day decide to completely shut it down for 'reasons' >only let people go through who pay a $1000 fee >no other major roads nearby",,Anonymous,staring.webm,73Kfpm8nGfD0IbXN+auW3A==,CA,,1510320698 148827138,148854610,2017-11-10 13:31:39,">>148854113 of course it failed, ancap and state do not mix, and most of those place were founded with the 'smart' idea that you could use the natives as happy consumers",,TPM,,,,,1510320699 148827138,148854928,2017-11-10 13:34:03,">>148853294 because killing commies in Africa would be racist as opposed to tacitly approved of. also the statist dickheads crying about colonialism are already bad enough as is without a prosperous bunch American hicks displacing the highly intersectional natives. Ask Rhodesia how the white man going to Africa works out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510320843 148827138,148854936,2017-11-10 13:34:07,">>148854439 Fire maybe?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510320847 148827138,148855019,2017-11-10 13:34:42,">>148854610 I didn’t mean ancap government. So, what went wrong? If an ancap state cannot form on a small scale, what makes you think it can work on a large scale?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510320882 148827138,148855027,2017-11-10 13:34:44,">>148854607 It's like that one time someone made an airplane and then it was super popular and then no one ever made another airplane again.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510320884 148827138,148855029,2017-11-10 13:34:45,">>148853886 >popularity equals quality There's many operating and previously operating communist countries but we all know that's shit. Democracy very slowly becomes communism. Find a system of government that leads to communism the slowest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510320885 148827138,148855445,2017-11-10 13:38:18,">>148855027 It's like Airplanes are not static and can be easily moved, while roads are permanent landmarks",,Anonymous,1510333407907.png,yLSYdTZp6DOkOJagYfEaww==,CA,,1510321098 148827138,148855607,2017-11-10 13:39:34,">>148855019 i just said, all the current example use native, non whites as part of the plan, you can't do that in a libertarian social order",,TPM,,,,,1510321174 148827138,148855797,2017-11-10 13:41:01,">>148855607 There has been multiple ancap states in white countries.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510321261 148827138,148855813,2017-11-10 13:41:09,">>148855029 if no one is eating cyanide it means its unhealthy",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510321269 148827138,148855838,2017-11-10 13:41:19,">>148855445 It's like that one time someone made a skyscraper and then no one made another skyscraper ever again.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510321279 148827138,148856159,2017-11-10 13:43:58,">>148855838 >It's like skyscrapers are not static and can be easily moved, while airplanes are permanent landmarks",,Anonymous,,,,,1510321438 148827138,148856199,2017-11-10 13:44:20,">>148855838 >buys up all the land around your road Nice try",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510321460 148827138,148856312,2017-11-10 13:45:19,">>148854050 I know you're in Poland, but in America we're supposed to have state's rights. Now there are Democrat strongholds and Republican strongholds, and that wouldn't be a problem (just move to a different state) but of course they feel the need to impose their rule on other states through the federal government. Now if the state you live in is a Republican stronghold which essentially means most everyone believes in the free market, but because the Democrats are in federal power at the moment they impose all sorts of federal regulations (because Chicago gun laws don't work unless they're federal law). Essentially these are a mostly libertarian/republican people who are beholden to a republican state (which agrees with them) which is beholden to a democrat federal government. There's no need to move, there's enough people already here. Why does a libertarian enclave need to be formed in a red state when the state already agrees it's all legal but it goes against federal law?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510321519 148827138,148856862,2017-11-10 13:49:33,">>148855813 But people eat apples all the time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510321773 148827138,148856921,2017-11-10 13:50:06,">>148855797 point to them? i've only heard of a few, and all in asia, or similar shit places",,TPM,,,,,1510321806 148827138,148856985,2017-11-10 13:50:38,">>148828162 >capitalism produces degeneracy all those things are not only endorsed but literally celebrated by the left and are openly condemned by the right. in fact, it is views on porn, drugs, sexual degeneracy etc... which separates the right from the left. the mantra of the left is ""do whatever feels good in the moment"" and they ignore and pretend long-term consequences to their actions don't exist while right-wing views are more about playing the long game, settling down and raising stable children in a loving environment. most libertarians hold right-wing views for the simple reason that right-wing views produce the highest standard of living in a free society. capitalism, in fact, incentives right-wing views and punishes the left-wing degenerate views which celebrate promiscuity and other forms of degeneracy, contrary to what you have deluded yourself into thinking. ""doing whatever feels good"" simply doesn't work well in a capitalist society. sure, people are free to live a life of vice under capitalism, and those people are the only ones who will lose out as a result of their poor decisions, while the right-wingers who have a modicum of self-restraint will flourish by comparison. it's not difficult to figure out what the result of this change to incentives will be, and it sounds ideal. the only people who truly take issue with a system where people are punished for bad decisions and rewarded for good decisions are people who know they haven't earned their place in society and need an oppressive government to maintain the status quo for them.",,Anonymous,shit eating cuckold.jpg,SaNsaDxdaINy5XNq67KF1w==,CA,,1510321838 148827138,148857340,2017-11-10 13:53:44,">>148840731 There's nothing to refute, what he's saying is besides the point. It's as if he's criticizing a musician for their lack of skills in painting. Just because you don't want conservative values pushed with tax-dollars doesn't mean you don't care about culture. The cultural notion of libertarianism is that if it's not developed and maintained voluntarily, it's not legitimate. Practically every right-libertarian is a social conservative, although they don't want any state to enforce their social views. People like Hoppe, and I'm sure other libertarians have attempted to demonstrate how property rights is a founding principle of conservative thoughts like the family unit, libertarianism and capitalism is not the same thing, one is an ideology (hence why many called themselves paleo-libertarians), the other is an economic system. He also doesn't provide any other metric so I'm assuming he's referring to people and culture, where he outlines no way of measuring, and increasing the value of either of these things. >>148842963 And as a sidenote to this guy, the notion that free-trade holds any negative cultural implications, is utter bullshit. And even dumber is the notion that pushing tax-dollars into a (hopefully wellwishing, though not like) cartel is going to develop and maintain the value of heritage. Not only are you so certain that you're ""correct"" that you want the state to enforce your views, you're also naive enough to believe that the state wont pervert them within 2 generations.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1510322024 148827138,148857359,2017-11-10 13:53:55,">>148856921 One in texas and one in croatia/serbia.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510322035 148827138,148857423,2017-11-10 13:54:22,">>148856985 Really all libertarianism advocates for is financial responsibility. If you can live the lifestyle you want without taking on debt, then by all means you are free to do so. This can be decadent, and you may not be as rich as you could be, but if you feel it's worth it then why not? Not everyone is an accountant finding the exact opportunity cost of leisure vs work in their lives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510322062 148827138,148857439,2017-11-10 13:54:32,">>148856985 People are not perfectly rational.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510322072 148827138,148857538,2017-11-10 13:55:22,">>148857359 got a link to the stories? i think i heard of the texas one, it was an ancap mayor right? didn't it end up with the citizens fixing the city themselves?",,TPM,,,,,1510322122 148827138,148857717,2017-11-10 13:56:35,">>148828162 >>148828643 It wasn't real capitalism :^)",,Anonymous,,,,,1510322195 148827138,148858178,2017-11-10 14:00:14,">>148857717 not whats being said is it? its saying leftism is the root of social decay we see in the us the idea of equality is where it stems from cronyism is capitalism, but not free market capitalism, and free market capitalism won't lead into cronyism in the absence of the state to keep people down",,TPM,,,,,1510322414 148827138,148858288,2017-11-10 14:01:08,">>148857439 And they will be punished as such. If your behavior is subpar, why fund a state to arbitrarily punish you when the free-markets does it for you? If you're a useless drug-addict, you don't need jail time, you need to starve to death.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1510322468 148827138,148858294,2017-11-10 14:01:09,">>148856199 >Implying the land is for sale >Implying you can even afford the obscene amount of land required to surround a road",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510322469 148827138,148858384,2017-11-10 14:01:48,">>148857717 Yeah, but we know what real capitalism looks like. Hong Kong, Singapore, post-Civil War US up to the Great Depression, the parts of Eastern Europe not being cucked by the EU, Chile, I can go on...",,Anonymous,,,,,1510322508 148827138,148858531,2017-11-10 14:02:54,Libertarianism =/= Anarcho-Capitalism,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510322574 148827138,148858618,2017-11-10 14:03:38,">>148858288 Would you rather have a productive member of society or a drug addict?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510322618 148827138,148858943,2017-11-10 14:06:20,">>148858618 Please just make your argument you pretentious fuck.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1510322780 148827138,148859088,2017-11-10 14:07:42,">>148858531 but it is, libertarianism is the pursuit of freedom ancap is the logical end goal of libertarianism",,TPM,,,,,1510322862 148827138,148859215,2017-11-10 14:08:52,">>148858943 I thought it’s explicit. It makes more sense to guide people than let them make easily avoidable mistakes.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510322932 148827138,148859403,2017-11-10 14:10:43,">>148859215 did you learn to not touch the stove cause of your parents, or because you touched the stove?",,TPM,,,,,1510323043 148827138,148859482,2017-11-10 14:11:24,">>148859215 Buddy, I need to get up before 5AM, you can guide someone else. Gn to you and /lrg/.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1510323084 148827138,148859831,2017-11-10 14:14:45,">>148859215 What makes you think you need a state to guide people?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510323285 148827138,148860013,2017-11-10 14:16:31,">>148859215 Drug addiction is half genetic reasons. If someone becomes a drug addict and starves on the streets before they have kids, then that's one less addictive-personality-gene in the gene pool. What you're advocating for is enabling the genetically weak to make a parasitic relationship with society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510323391 148827138,148860159,2017-11-10 14:17:48,">>148849853 this looks better",,Anonymous,ancap confed.png,xf5kAppRt78U8z431Pt/Tw==,US,,1510323468 148827138,148860247,2017-11-10 14:18:34,">>148827138 fuck off faggot. /pol/ is a nat soc board",,Anonymous,,,,,1510323514 148827138,148860298,2017-11-10 14:19:01,">>148859403 Did you learn not to touch power lines because of the warning sign or because you touched one?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510323541 148827138,148860358,2017-11-10 14:19:29,">>148860247 >being this new",,Anonymous,1509922099857.jpg,wE+t9NYd1ZGc4hsJ/BeQyA==,US,,1510323569 148827138,148860507,2017-11-10 14:20:43,">>148860013 There is also a correlation between intelligence and the likelyhood of using drugs. Social darwinism is very easy to do wrong.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510323643 148827138,148860589,2017-11-10 14:21:23,">>148860298 false comparison, you can't touch power lines in the first place, too high",,TPM,,,,,1510323683 148827138,148860655,2017-11-10 14:21:59,">>148859831 State generally is interested in the wellbeing of its population. If everybody is a drug addict then who’s gonna pay taxes?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510323719 148827138,148860679,2017-11-10 14:22:10,">>148860358 >not knowing /new/ was nat soc kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,,,1510323730 148827138,148860722,2017-11-10 14:22:33,">>148857439 and?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510323753 148827138,148860726,2017-11-10 14:22:34,">>148860589 Well drinking household toxins is another one.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510323754 148827138,148860727,2017-11-10 14:22:34,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,mussoliniman.jpg,GE+FnHklw7TVhlki5/ImHA==,NL,,1510323754 148827138,148860869,2017-11-10 14:23:50,">>148860507 Likelyhood to try drugs. ""If you used once"" doesn't exactly mean ""addicted to"". Are there any studies on the utilitarian usage of drugs vs the addictive uses of drugs? Yeah you can use amphetamine during crunch time one weekend but that doesn't mean you use it all day everyday like an addict.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510323830 148827138,148860932,2017-11-10 14:24:20,">>148860655 >State generally is interested in the wellbeing of its population. Enjoy your refugees",,Anonymous,,,,,1510323860 148827138,148860981,2017-11-10 14:24:40,"Have a free bump. I honestly am very torn about Ancapism. On the one hand, I do support many of Hoppe's and Rothbard's points (especially the radical anti-communism) - but as I am catholic, I cannot support the notion of ""do as thou wilt"" as long as it doesn't violate the NAP, because there are clearly things that infact do not violate it, but the soul. hm Help a nigguh out",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510323880 148827138,148861011,2017-11-10 14:24:59,">>148859215 >my definition of what a mistake is needs to be enforced on everyone I know a lot of anti-racists who pretty much think exactly the same crap. The totality of the left, in fact.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510323899 148827138,148861034,2017-11-10 14:25:09,">>148860679 >>148860727",,Anonymous,14468639_268466766887296_4971960999086412608_o.jpg,MJKTxu/WkV7Ljn60VANRCg==,US,,1510323909 148827138,148861083,2017-11-10 14:25:46,">>148860869 That’s true. But the point is that drug addict genes aren’t necessarily bad.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510323946 148827138,148861105,2017-11-10 14:25:56,">>148860981 Like what? It seems to me that you're developing a rational that could be used to justify forced conversion.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510323956 148827138,148861130,2017-11-10 14:26:06,">>148860981 Just start an all Catholic covenant my dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510323966 148827138,148861168,2017-11-10 14:26:23,">>148860655 My point was that regardless of if the state has a vested interest in the well-being of its population (which is debatable), it is not the only source of guidance.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510323983 148827138,148861236,2017-11-10 14:27:05,">>148861011 Authoritanianism has been a thing since the ancient greeks.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510324025 148827138,148861247,2017-11-10 14:27:09,">>148860981 As a catholic you must push back the state. The church lost everything when, the states took over and now are degraded to a homosexuel shitfest for refugies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510324029 148827138,148861306,2017-11-10 14:27:46,">>148860981 Here's the problem with social conservatives and republicans in general: they believe that if their morals were legislated and enforced by police, then we'd all be better people. In reality, that's why Republicans lose elections. It's better for the government to leave people alone and just realize there's people you'll never save despite your religion being the best way to live.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510324066 148827138,148861367,2017-11-10 14:28:21,">>148861236 >muh authority can only come by the state and not by god are you even european?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510324101 148827138,148861485,2017-11-10 14:29:19,">>148861168 Of course it’s not the only one. But the problem with private organisations is that they are so vulnerable to the profit incentive. Eg. Corporations which are less ethical will earn more money.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510324159 148827138,148861543,2017-11-10 14:29:45,">>148860726 i didn't learn form the state not to drink toxins, that's for sure. guidance should come from the family anyways, not the state if the argument is' is guidance necessary period? than yes, but you don't need the state, family and community is the answer",,TPM,Hoppepill.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,,,1510324185 148827138,148861566,2017-11-10 14:30:00,">>148860981 >but as I am catholic, I cannot support the notion of ""do as thou wilt"" as long as it doesn't violate the NAP, because there are clearly things that infact do not violate it, but the soul. Then it means you are a theocrat piece of shit, and the very antithesis of what America was founded on. Your fable of a dead Jew on a stick has caused nothing but death and destruction to everything it has ever touched. The cancer metastasized and eventually destroyed all of western civilization for hundreds and hundreds of years. You're only Catholic because you were raised Catholic. If I went back and time and killed off all the Sumerians and Zoroastrians the Jews would have never been inspired to amalgamate their ass-backwords fucking bullshit region and they would have kept running around sacrificing each other until the end of time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510324200 148827138,148861581,2017-11-10 14:30:07,">>148861083 I'd say for their day they were good (I found a fuckton of sugar today I'm going to strongarm it). But in a society of abundance not really unless it's a highly controlled environment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510324207 148827138,148861664,2017-11-10 14:30:58,">>148860727 >individualism >not right wing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510324258 148827138,148861665,2017-11-10 14:30:59,">>148861236 >authoritarianism has existed before and therefore my authority is justified Go somewhere else.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510324259 148827138,148861668,2017-11-10 14:31:00,">>148861367 All authority is material. The so called authority of god is infact authority of the catholic church.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510324260 148827138,148861670,2017-11-10 14:31:02,">>148861105 Not at all. As I said, I see it as ambivalent - as natural law being a thing etc., but on the other hand it let's those turbodegenerates reign free - even if only on their own property ... which might also be a plus as it hopefully wouldn't spread. It's the ""encourage no one but let them do their thing"" kinda stuff that I cannot reconciliate with.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510324262 148827138,148861707,2017-11-10 14:31:24,">>148860247 no it isnt you larping cunt, get a job and fuck off back to the dotard",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510324284 148827138,148861714,2017-11-10 14:31:28,">>148861566 Eric July is also a faithfull roman catholic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510324288 148827138,148861813,2017-11-10 14:32:18,">>148860727 i've asked this to fascist before but never got an answer, what is right and left? you say anything not left is right, but give NO elaboration and stay purposefully vague.",,TPM,,,,,1510324338 148827138,148861861,2017-11-10 14:32:37,">>148861543 It’s unlikely that your community has safety experts from all areas of life, while the state likely has them.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510324357 148827138,148861934,2017-11-10 14:33:11,">>148861485 Private organisations can only profit by serving the consumer though; if they cut corners they will lose the loyalty of their customers. Just look at what is happening at Gibson (the guitar company) at the moment.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510324391 148827138,148862044,2017-11-10 14:34:11,">>148861668 >The so called authority of god is infact the authority of the sun. fix'd it for you. and since the sun is patriarchal principle it can't be materialistic. while in fact states are only representing materialistic authorithy via a socialist piece of paper called the constitution.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510324451 148827138,148862094,2017-11-10 14:34:35,">>148861581 Well we don’t know the answer yet so remowing them would be unwise.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510324475 148827138,148862160,2017-11-10 14:35:07,">>148861670 >It's the ""encourage no one but let them do their thing"" kinda stuff that I cannot reconciliate with. Why? It seems to me the best one can hope for is to have the liberty to do with his legitimately acquired property what he wishes. If what you wish for at the present moment is to see an institution come about that will encourage your morality without you having to pay for it, then as far as I'm concerned you're simply advocating for stealing money from other people so that your own particular program can be implemented. Your complaint seems to amount to nothing more than ""I want to see people forced to do what I want them to do, or at the very least influenced by a powerful institution that will do that in my stead, as I don't want to do it myself with my own resources"". That thing with the word of God needing the sword always seemed weird to me.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510324507 148827138,148862214,2017-11-10 14:35:39,">>148861665 I was responding to the claim that only lefties are authoritarian.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510324539 148827138,148862281,2017-11-10 14:36:16,">>148836778 this is my new favorite thing I need this as a flag!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510324576 148827138,148862348,2017-11-10 14:36:49,">>148861934 Very much this. Another good example is Lenovo with their Thinkpads. They were legendary until around the turn of the decade, and now they suck cock and balls. Companies need to stop sucking dicks of retarded investors who don't know anything about anything. Unfortunately, in the United States you are forced to go public once you meet a certain profit margin, and the only way around it is to do a shitload of money laundering (look at Valve, for example.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1510324609 148827138,148862536,2017-11-10 14:38:26,>>148851640,,Anonymous,1499557207911.png,UGGAtAdCXLqn2dlzduTrVQ==,US,,1510324706 148827138,148862548,2017-11-10 14:38:31,">>148862044 Can you elaborate a bit. Are you talking about the sun or son?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510324711 148827138,148862558,2017-11-10 14:38:38,">>148861813 I never saw myself as right or left because I am not a democrat, but since i read a bit into economics I started to call myself right. you can maybe differentiate of peopel on the right are more individualistic and self responsible, also they usually want to be left alone while the left is collectivist and parasitic you see this the strongest between people on the coutnryside and urbancucks..",,Anonymous,,,,,1510324718 148827138,148862711,2017-11-10 14:39:58,">>148861861 its unnecessary to have all experts from all walks af life available, the division of labor, one of the core capitalistic tenants and can explains the if we divide labor will much better for it, we can trade at a distance after all; one town, like now, is where grapes are produced, and in another wine is produced from those grapes",,TPM,,,,,1510324798 148827138,148862968,2017-11-10 14:42:26,">>148862536 >I actually got hard reading that Why",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510324946 148827138,148862993,2017-11-10 14:42:39,">>148862711 Common safety standards are still way more efficient. If you come accross a new chemical finding its msds is much easier than hoping that someone you know knows about it.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510324959 148827138,148863093,2017-11-10 14:43:29,">>148862558 that's what i was thinking too, but most fashy trolls that come here(not the painfully obvious leftypol d&c teams) seem to be vague on that and like to deemean us as leftists, like the few retards that think were agents of marx looking to spread late stage capitalism",,TPM,,,,,1510325009 148827138,148863231,2017-11-10 14:44:47,">>148862548 the sun it is basic aryan history while the sun represents the principle of men, the moon and the earth represents the female principle. this is also why gold and silver always had a spiritual value for our people, if you look at all the artifacts from ancient times the church only represents the the spirit of Rome, hence why the holy roman empire of german nation chose to accept catholicism as long as it represented this spirit. but nowadays the church is worthless and rome lies in ruins.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510325087 148827138,148863314,2017-11-10 14:45:34,">>148862968 too much internet?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510325134 148827138,148863495,2017-11-10 14:47:16,">>148863093 >seem to be vague on that and like to deemean us as leftists I probably would have too if my first contact with libertarians weren't through radical agenda. most parts of libertarianism is infested with communism desu. And no those people are not trolls they are only edgy kids.",,Anonymous,pho.jpg,jMCRsCqUVW8DUTB+xjI9qQ==,,,1510325236 148827138,148863536,2017-11-10 14:47:36,">>148862993 agreed, but at the same time standardization destroys local measurements and thus is one step in the direction to eradicate local culture. but aside from that, standards are created by non governments first, like a plumbers union would set standards for all in the union and that worked out fine, another better example is the guild system of the middle ages that would collaborate and set standards/ >tl;dr you don't need a state to standardize, that can and used to be handled by the unions and guilds",,TPM,,,,,1510325256 148827138,148863758,2017-11-10 14:49:33,">>148863231 Okay, how does the authority of the sun manifest?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510325373 148827138,148863880,2017-11-10 14:50:40,">>148863536 Regardles the original point that learning without direct experience is possible is true.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510325440 148827138,148863927,2017-11-10 14:51:04,Just gonna dump a few.,,Anonymous,1506255483290m.jpg,mBNdfY9QIq+vYjyl4C9T6w==,,,1510325464 148827138,148863994,2017-11-10 14:51:51,,,Anonymous,1509900209232.png,kKcuyR3CWM0sY/Wq4KpC/w==,,,1510325511 148827138,148864008,2017-11-10 14:51:57,">>148863758 In the Kaiser and the Empire. And a natural connection between heaven and earth in which the Kaiser function as a medium between the 2 world from the lowest of hierarchy to the top, so everyone can be graced by the blessing of the sun.",,Anonymous,gott kaiser vaterland.jpg,aEa62Z0YW7nKQJTDd8g3MA==,,,1510325517 148827138,148864022,2017-11-10 14:52:09,">>148863495 a troll IS an edgy kid. funposting fun, trolls are trolls i say. and its sad that the only front for libertarianism is the LP; that is indeed infested with commies",,TPM,,,,,1510325529 148827138,148864096,2017-11-10 14:52:45,,,Anonymous,1509897904352.png,D9ikNG520Gy30il4S2DOVQ==,,,1510325565 148827138,148864254,2017-11-10 14:54:03,,,Anonymous,1509757773434.jpg,Y/91dA6dVtFwcs35u8F0nw==,,,1510325643 148827138,148864349,2017-11-10 14:54:48,">>148863495 Dat your Jap waifu?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510325688 148827138,148864500,2017-11-10 14:55:58,">>148852622 >he is a total fucking faggot, he suport kid diddling and says that rape is ok Your road to true redpill isn't yet finished anon here's a pill for you",,Anonymous,age of consent.png,N5nzt8Njn6MG6XxoMjei9A==,PL,,1510325758 148827138,148864516,2017-11-10 14:56:07,">>148863880 of course, honestly people are just caught up in the fun in arguing. me included",,TPM,,,,,1510325767 148827138,148864718,2017-11-10 14:57:55,">>148864022 oh misread it about the trolls. but socialism is spreading in all those new rightwing movements across europe too, they openly admire communists and socialists as long as they are patriotic or anti islam.",,Anonymous,roads kill people.jpg,z/tgMJaD7Ikvwqas8reu9w==,,,1510325875 148827138,148864904,2017-11-10 14:59:36,">>148864718 yeah... the death of the rightwing is before it even takes over, its all up to us fringe types they pursue puristic types of societal organization",,TPM,,,,,1510325976 148827138,148864917,2017-11-10 14:59:41,">>148864349 No just an open border chink libertarian >>148841894 would be my ideal",,Anonymous,pho4.jpg,jxqaFQp2x/wcnTPEdpYSbg==,,,1510325981 148827138,148865188,2017-11-10 15:02:03,">>148864904 >the death of the rightwing is before it even takes over maybe the collapse is really the only chance for a right future",,Anonymous,,,,,1510326123 148827138,148865324,2017-11-10 15:03:12,">>148827138 Reminder that Libertarians are cucked pro-open borders retards and Hoppean mental gymnastics won't change that fact",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1510326192 148827138,148865391,2017-11-10 15:03:45,">>148827138 Is a vector-version available?",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1510326225 148827138,148865435,2017-11-10 15:04:05,">>148865188 it is, we all know that, that's why happening thread are always popular even if we know it won't happen",,TPM,,,,,1510326245 148827138,148865521,2017-11-10 15:04:57,">>148865324 seems to be more the type of movement you want my socialist friend",,Anonymous,patriotic egalitarianism.jpg,AqycMy47WCvVzVVoYH8wmw==,,,1510326297 148827138,148865547,2017-11-10 15:05:09,">>148828162 >dude but we're /pole/ on the S&D&RnR t. tankie puritan >dude banksy is p. deep tho gotta admit >dude we can't reform social structures or steer a democracy at all dude we need to topple everything and enact Juche for [race / demographic] and we need to do that in the next thirty minutes let's go >can't spell rap w/o cRap lol epic >unironically saying ""sportsball"" for any reason But hey at least he's not a cringistani. Right comrades? Hoooooly fuck kid.",,Anonymous,1476496394296.jpg,vUY+8BUQVZ0c+9tEHNpEdw==,US,,1510326309 148827138,148865578,2017-11-10 15:05:22,">>148865324 shut up spaghetti nigger",,TPM,1492548195893.png,siCy/G146TpUAgpJiqEvCg==,,,1510326322 148827138,148865639,2017-11-10 15:05:57,">>148865324 Libertarians don't believe in open border but only in private property, which means the possibility of excluding people. (And of being racist or homophobic or hating on atheist or christians and shit like that.)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510326357 148827138,148865702,2017-11-10 15:06:23,">>148865578 >He thinks I'm Italian So this is what it's like to be a retarded Libertarian",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1510326383 148827138,148865799,2017-11-10 15:07:14,">>148865521 holy shit those gymnastics >whites are superior >but all are equal what fucking cucks, it really is all up to us isn't it? literally all the movements everywhere are all commie filled",,TPM,1492683483279.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,,,1510326434 148827138,148865880,2017-11-10 15:07:51,">>148865702 >he doesn't know the oldest pol memes in the book get the fuck out newfag",,TPM,1492697227518.jpg,FqVbw5p6f4HLypb5o9lMVg==,,,1510326471 148827138,148865986,2017-11-10 15:08:46,">>148865702 https://youtu.be/QxP442T-aZ0",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510326526 148827138,148866071,2017-11-10 15:09:33,">>148865799 That interval totalitarianism is gonna hurt you bad if you believe in it, son.",,Anonymous,1501533155752.jpg,bR9kibJo6cXzYB5xZT1EFA==,,,1510326573 148827138,148866304,2017-11-10 15:11:32,">>148865799 >it really is all up to us isn't it? It is we have no nobility anymore and the church prays to the antichrist. It all comes down to common people, who are willing to fight for their homes and their families. Best thing is probably to try to influence people in power of companies with a lot of ressources to fight on our side.",,Anonymous,squadristi.jpg,UzM3LnUQKZ1ltqkJVllu+g==,,,1510326692 148827138,148866556,2017-11-10 15:13:25,">>148866071 i think we should deregulate too, but those leftist ain't gonna remove themselves",,TPM,1495312629471.jpg,ZNZVF4zbiLA4Qe2A9/mamw==,,,1510326805 148827138,148866568,2017-11-10 15:13:31,">>148866304 >Best thing is probably to try to influence people in power of companies with a lot of ressources to fight on our side. Some might but are too scared, whether the reason to be scared is real or not. The others have a lot of commies and will slowly kill themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510326811 148827138,148866670,2017-11-10 15:14:28,How do we address removal? Corporate deportation armies?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1510326868 148827138,148866853,2017-11-10 15:15:53,>>148866670,,Anonymous,animu deathsquads.jpg,9hSlf3SGmWzvy4ir9MRtWA==,,,1510326953 148827138,148866920,2017-11-10 15:16:28,What does /lrg/ think of Trump?,,Anonymous,Trump glowing.jpg,Yam5T6rJZrADOMUnOMVJIg==,IE,,1510326988 148827138,148866979,2017-11-10 15:16:49,">>148866304 i feel that support is there, russia even pledge support to any american rebels(even under trump, putin himself said in interviews that trumps is controlled by the same men in black that the last 4 presidents he witnessed were controlled by) so of course, AT LEAST ONE man at the top wants to remove these cancers from our society. there was that fascist general right?",,TPM,,,,,1510327009 148827138,148867047,2017-11-10 15:17:22,">>148866670 There's nothing wrong with killing muslims since they believe in a positive afterlife. You'd just be helping them.",,Anonymous,,,MT,,1510327042 148827138,148867229,2017-11-10 15:18:55,">>148866670 Militias",,Anonymous,uni.jpg,CJotvFjur4kCv+4ogrO4Kg==,US,,1510327135 148827138,148867296,2017-11-10 15:19:34,">>148867047 Correct. Death in Jihad is the best possible death for Muslims, and grant them access to the highest reaches of paradise, which they believe cannot even compare to the whole of the riches of the world.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510327174 148827138,148867304,2017-11-10 15:19:37,">>148866670 PRIVATE DEATH SQUADS",,TPM,,,,,1510327177 148827138,148867502,2017-11-10 15:21:16,">>148866920 hes good, if you've read the whitehouse.gov site and listen to the proposed tax reforms, he wants to deregulate a lot of things and privatize national industries, like air traffic control",,TPM,,,,,1510327276 148827138,148867627,2017-11-10 15:22:15,">>148867229 needs more gadson's, and yellow accents aesthetics>camo",,TPM,,,,,1510327335 148827138,148867699,2017-11-10 15:22:46,">>148866979 we have a big company here who were fined for a few million euros, then they told the commies in vienna they won't pay it, not because they can't afford it, but because they don't want to. so I also see in cucked europe the possiblity of an uprising, if the socialists would push even more.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510327366 148827138,148867804,2017-11-10 15:23:38,">>148827644 >Capitalism >Problem",,Anonymous,1462177997887.jpg,Dm2cqsKF75cdX846sKV8YA==,US,,1510327418 148827138,148867931,2017-11-10 15:24:33,">>148867627 >aesthetics>camo",,Anonymous,GuP34.jpg,ezh5RKs+359IBrJFLlYEXg==,,,1510327473 148827138,148868090,2017-11-10 15:26:04,">>148867699 >if they push for more that's not the problem, they will the problem is the only veins of resistance being infiltrated by ALL the spy agencies, and secret societies and being subverted what we need is private, small, unassociated, warbands, that do their work with only a basic tenet. seems like the only way to avoid subversion",,TPM,,,,,1510327564 148827138,148868378,2017-11-10 15:28:41,">>148868090 well you have militias in merica, aren't they there for stuff like this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510327721 148827138,148868489,2017-11-10 15:29:37,">>148865324 libertarian =/= ancap a libertarian wants the state to exist but to fuck off except for things like threats of national security, one of which would be border security. this shit ""m-muh open borders"" meme can be debunked in a sentence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510327777 148827138,148868828,2017-11-10 15:32:37,How would you deal with a company causing mass pollution in a local area within a 'true free market'? Surely the given company would be able to use its massed resources to fight any legal case against themselves to the point where the other side would run out of resources to fight the case and would have to cede even tho there rights were clearly being infringed upon?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510327957 148827138,148869103,2017-11-10 15:35:25,">>148868489 b-b-but picardia memes m-mc. nukes we need to poz for Israel cause the gop bots said",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510328125 148827138,148869185,2017-11-10 15:36:11,">>148868828 Massive pollution implies a class action lawsuit, and it's not clear that the legal system under ancapistan would be as costly as the one we have now. It's gonna depend on the arrangement.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510328171 148827138,148869187,2017-11-10 15:36:13,">>148868378 the miltia system in america was made for tyranny, but tyranny is subjective, most people LIKE living as slaves and would see any militia action to be evil as most like the idea of the social contract and don't anything wrong with the hobbesian account of humanity. the problem is that as ancaps and fascists respectively we'd be for the complete reworking of the constitution and would be the evil uprising. like hitler, we need soft revolutions. because violent revolution without obvious tyranny is viewed as evil",,TPM,,,,,1510328173 148827138,148869296,2017-11-10 15:37:14,">>148827138 That flag is pure sex.",,Anonymous,1505280902863.png,Ajj6ZLfFmpDyv10WPhqUaw==,,,1510328234 148827138,148869369,2017-11-10 15:37:48,">>148868828 If legal cases won't give you justice, you have a conflict and you can either fight or fuck off. It is just nature of life. what would you do when the state woudl do such a thing?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510328268 148827138,148869910,2017-11-10 15:42:22,">>148869187 Wasn't the bundy standoff a win for the militias? also I would be happy if we had an militia agaisnt tyranny here but you would get arrested instantly for forming one and people here can't even think of such thing a a milita, which is not the part of the state military. A militia formed from common people is unimaginable for europeans, not even in their wildest dreams I can't even describe how cucked they are.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510328542 148827138,148869986,2017-11-10 15:43:06,,,Anonymous,libtard.jpg,MV/nDdlJ9xDH3js7eJy1ag==,,,1510328586 148827138,148870107,2017-11-10 15:44:09,">>148869910 not really, for us maybe, but in the end the media did a damn good job killing bundy's credibility, and smearing the name of militia's as crazy, petty, and cowardly.",,TPM,,,,,1510328649 148827138,148870129,2017-11-10 15:44:20,please protect,,Anonymous,ancap chan autistic version needs protection.jpg,vVZTZJ2D5T6cJrnXH7ZmIQ==,,,1510328660 148827138,148870189,2017-11-10 15:44:52,">>148869986 >LP >libertarians baka desu senpai",,TPM,,,,,1510328692 148827138,148870235,2017-11-10 15:45:18,">>148869185 >>148869369 Someone made the point to me today at work and wondered what you'd think. Cheers for the reasoned responses",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510328718 148827138,148870320,2017-11-10 15:46:01,">>148870129 she should have yellow hair with a black anarchy pin, but cute otherwise",,TPM,,,,,1510328761 148827138,148870390,2017-11-10 15:46:39,">>148869986 based",,Anonymous,,,,,1510328799 148827138,148870417,2017-11-10 15:47:01,">>148870189 they're literally libertarian just like you lmao",,Anonymous,,,,,1510328821 148827138,148870468,2017-11-10 15:47:27,">>148870129 >purple hair it's shit",,Anonymous,1491317941452.webm,6ZwdiI8p1gx07Mfb9xGXCg==,,,1510328847 148827138,148870488,2017-11-10 15:47:43,">>148869910 to elaborate, they connected his standoff, to him not paying taxes, instead of the real reason, emphasized that he was in an unoccupied because of cowardice, and did their job well enough",,TPM,,,,,1510328863 148827138,148870535,2017-11-10 15:48:06,">>148827644 Sadly this. People are too focused on being ""le edgy"" which is why the waste time on stupid shit like HHH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510328886 148827138,148870591,2017-11-10 15:48:35,">>148870417 oh good, a retard enjoy your lurking, don't post before you do though",,TPM,,,,,1510328915 148827138,148870706,2017-11-10 15:49:36,">>148870107 You think the militias will fight, if the gov decides to make them illegal? or do you think even normal gun owners would fight the gov if they'd came for the guns? I don't know sometimes I think it is all talk and sometimes I think it could show the rest of the world what can be done, if they succsessfully would fight defend their rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510328976 148827138,148870760,2017-11-10 15:50:04,">>148870417 The only libertarian that ran in 2016 ran as a republican.",,Anonymous,1455146667003.jpg,Io8Br8vP+FFSA8q+1Qhuvw==,,,1510329004 148827138,148871015,2017-11-10 15:52:00,">>148870488 >they connected his standoff, to him not paying taxes oh you can get the normies everytime with it",,Anonymous,,,,,1510329120 148827138,148871040,2017-11-10 15:52:13,">>148869986 Third parties totally aren't suppressed or anything, don't be silly comrade. That is why glorious IWW and SLP are still relev- oh wait nevermind",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510329133 148827138,148871243,2017-11-10 15:53:59,>>148870535,,Anonymous,hoppecopteren.png,XnoEwPsXyC1dpC8rsIo+RA==,,,1510329239 148827138,148871275,2017-11-10 15:54:14,">>148870706 >You think the militias will fight, if the gov decides to make them illegal? yes that is the obvious tyranny i was talking about but that won't happen until the leftists gain the government. shoulda happened now, with the election, but it didn't, so we got a time extension short one though.. >or do you think even normal gun owners would fight the gov if they'd came for the guns? again yes its not all talk, there is vested people that watchdog the gov, the problem is that these people(the one who would really do something) get pic related",,TPM,1509179640506.png,mDrArlW6TiQ4VEWqwU2HLA==,,,1510329254 148827138,148871404,2017-11-10 15:55:29,">>148871015 exactly, all the normies went from thinking he had an ideological crusade, into thinking he was a loud crybaby bum, i remember the newscast anyway.",,TPM,,,,,1510329329 148827138,148872253,2017-11-10 16:02:39,">>148871275 >so we got a time extension short one though.. I don't want to sound edgy and say yay you got a civil war, but america is probably the best country to live in if you have to go through one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510329759 148827138,148872460,2017-11-10 16:04:31,">>148872253 >I don't want to sound edgy and say yay you got a civil war, but america is probably the best country to live in if you have to go through one. its only called edgy by idiots that gave up the fight. i personally live in texas, and am planning to run for the next local election, i hope to kick start the civil war myself by getting texas to succeed",,TPM,,,,,1510329871 148827138,148872605,2017-11-10 16:05:45,">>148870417 And buffalo wings come from buffalos.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510329945 148827138,148872926,2017-11-10 16:08:13,">>148872460 >i hope to kick start the civil war myself by getting texas to succeed would come for the freedom, but would stay for qt asian gf",,Anonymous,1458058931025.jpg,3USIsBJKWyc4thNH/otjjA==,,,1510330093 148827138,148872957,2017-11-10 16:08:32,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1508013366000.jpg,zycADtwMBj2ff44t2cV8YA==,US,,1510330112 148827138,148873041,2017-11-10 16:09:10,">>148872605 wait... They don't?",,Anonymous,1508432293954.jpg,xTNSlv1o/5bKM8Tlxnq+yw==,US,,1510330150 148827138,148873163,2017-11-10 16:10:13,">>148873041 'Fraid not, so to speak.",,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-10-12.42.16.png,35VWnXgjKqXHBI8L2Fn3Iw==,US,,1510330213 148827138,148873459,2017-11-10 16:12:44,">>148873163 my entire life is a lie.",,Anonymous,1509474134766.jpg,AtN6l0/+l2LmP3Qpn/WbqA==,US,,1510330364 148827138,148873843,2017-11-10 16:15:50,">>148827644 >problem of capitalism",,Anonymous,disdainforplebs.jpg,FnjhWSCCLNIcCc4362KxNg==,GB,,1510330550 149153262,149153262,2017-11-12 16:37:46,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FREEDOM TO DO RIGHT,Anonymous,The Family.png,BU6kI/EGJ2edHDzsLCe7qg==,,,1510504666 149153262,149153379,2017-11-12 16:38:48,Libertarians must not be moral relativists. We do not want liberty for the purpose of destroying ourselves.,,Anonymous,FreeToDoRight.png,Okh0nz2vw2aJ49Le7dWQeg==,,,1510504728 149153262,149153466,2017-11-12 16:39:33,">I am what is necessary - Royal Liberty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFAFG_SgQUM Watch this!",,Anonymous,Take_Back_The_Freedom_Movement.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1510504773 149153262,149153657,2017-11-12 16:41:12,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1510504872 149153262,149153764,2017-11-12 16:42:08,">Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism, Invented by jews, ect ect. STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence.",,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1510504928 149153262,149154023,2017-11-12 16:44:05,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1510505045 149153262,149154510,2017-11-12 16:47:59,,,Anonymous,RR (10).png,bIDcgm8bWRNUv8EN7ypOkQ==,,,1510505279 149153262,149154614,2017-11-12 16:48:42,Bump from your friendly neighbourhood scavenger.,,Anonymous,lrg_badge_personal_2-1.png,GSIQ17+icpCrYk0PWJ5WeA==,,,1510505322 149153262,149154755,2017-11-12 16:49:44,,,Anonymous,RR (1).png,efKiEmenD4v9rgs2OukcGg==,,,1510505384 149153262,149154986,2017-11-12 16:51:41,,,Anonymous,RR (2.1).png,iqvmEhK89v/DCiRS5PmN0g==,,,1510505501 149153262,149155060,2017-11-12 16:52:22,,,Anonymous,RR (3.1).png,JqPH5Q+JAij/Co0Q6AVQAA==,,,1510505542 149153262,149155341,2017-11-12 16:54:29,,,Anonymous,RR (8).png,kKcuyR3CWM0sY/Wq4KpC/w==,,,1510505669 149153262,149155476,2017-11-12 16:55:45,,,Anonymous,Virgil.png,wDUxtXohu0wCsohSEEb92w==,,,1510505745 149153262,149155651,2017-11-12 16:57:09,State enforced morality is a contradiction. The immoral will be seperated from the moral in the absence of the state.,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1510505829 149153262,149156004,2017-11-12 17:00:05,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1510506005 149153262,149156048,2017-11-12 17:00:32,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1510506032 149153262,149156286,2017-11-12 17:02:26,,,Anonymous,Means_To_Liberty.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1510506146 149153262,149156578,2017-11-12 17:04:57,,,Anonymous,physical2.png,9FzuelM7b5rL6aYH5Fj2Ow==,,,1510506297 149153262,149156812,2017-11-12 17:07:06,pack the leftist scum,,Asynd,CVQXxOOU4AAEO-z.jpg,QpZepkS0EUR4fEdd/5JrmQ==,,,1510506426 149153262,149157057,2017-11-12 17:09:19,">>149156812 left-lolbertarian trash will know their place soon.",,Anonymous,image.png,EYeLwUW+3Ds4pH8hCByrDQ==,,,1510506559 149153262,149157155,2017-11-12 17:10:08,"Freedom from the degeneracy which would harm our families, freedom from attack by the state and the communists on our families, the ability to exist through our own will.",,Anonymous,1500646855006.jpg,XyoMNNEwSgqT6E1Uc9bb1Q==,,,1510506608 149153262,149157209,2017-11-12 17:10:39,"Ahh, a happy, healthy family that does not rely on gibs. The states worst enemy.",,Anonymous,g4201.png,yL3Fwp6Qi5lsEAFAYleWKw==,,,1510506639 149153262,149157549,2017-11-12 17:13:47,and while we're at /snekmemesgeneral/,,Anonymous,snek (8).png,YYOS4OEaebW0fAxOC4DLvg==,,,1510506827 149153262,149158142,2017-11-12 17:19:15,,,Anonymous,1508977678451.jpg,Y9QyMvVTGAf467BJ4nvRUw==,,,1510507155 149153262,149158390,2017-11-12 17:21:22,"Many libertarians forget why they became libertarians and then find themselves puzzled as to why plebs aren't convinced by their superior ethics. I cant speak for all of you but for me it was NOT simply because it is a consistent ethical philosophy. For me it was the understanding that I have goals I want to pursue and that the state will tax and imprison me because my goals clash with the goals of the state. I just want to be left alone, but that is an impossibility with the state. in the case of the national socialist, all they want is a homogeneous, interdependent traditionalist community. It must be made clear to them that the state will not allow that, because its racism, nazism, hatespeech whatever. The bottom line is that the state stands in the way of you pursuing your destiny. The rubber hits the road here and you can apply the philosophy to your life. Intellectualizing about ethics convinces almost no one. It has to be applicable to the right here right now. Ethics without practicality and application is not much different than doing math problems for fun.",,Anonymous,Ultimate Conclusion.png,gmmaLMQcpJvJiusxZNqMuQ==,,,1510507282 149153262,149158777,2017-11-12 17:24:31,">libertarian >right The state is the embodiment of natural law, you utter idiots.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510507471 149153262,149159475,2017-11-12 17:30:12,">>149158777 The state as we know it is a false hierarchy, one that imprisons white nationalists and bans our ideas as hatespeech. It is the state that is making us the lowest class in our own nations. Reject the state. take personal responsibility into your own hands.",,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,3vhd5MVnAivyYPGHlPKPkw==,,,1510507812 149153262,149160255,2017-11-12 17:36:53,"Bump, gods bless /lrg/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510508213 149153262,149160293,2017-11-12 17:37:14,Libertarianism is a Jewish scheme,,Anonymous,,,US,,1510508234 149153262,149160332,2017-11-12 17:37:37,">>149159475 pffffft, that's not true statism",,Anonymous,,,,,1510508257 149153262,149160418,2017-11-12 17:38:24,">>149160293 You're probably a communist and a kike yourself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510508304 149153262,149160458,2017-11-12 17:38:49,">>149160293 This, the Kikes desperately need Palestine to be recognised and they yearn for the day the FED is abolished",,Anonymous,,,,,1510508329 149153262,149160460,2017-11-12 17:38:50,"WE WILL DESTROY THEM AND SUBJUGATE THE SURVIVORS",,Anonymous,Cantwell4.jpg,F4J4ojSi2lFbnkeoM5hclQ==,,,1510508330 149153262,149160494,2017-11-12 17:39:16,">>149160332 >it wasn't real statism ah i see, so it must be anarchy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510508356 149153262,149160616,2017-11-12 17:40:28,">>149160458 lol you're not a real nazi eh? National Socialists and libertarians both agree that central banking is a kike enslavement tool.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510508428 149153262,149163386,2017-11-12 18:05:21,">>149157057 this",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510509921 149153262,149163392,2017-11-12 18:05:22,,,Anonymous,Crush-1.png,HQl3OeUH7jJVktLD9nJrwA==,US,,1510509922 149153262,149163851,2017-11-12 18:09:17,">>149160616 Im a fucking fool, its quite obvious that nazi was /ourguy/ slinging memes. i feel like a jackass because I didn't see this right away.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510510157 149153262,149163870,2017-11-12 18:09:25,">>149163392 /LibertyWave/ is the best thing I have seen on /pol/, I beg for more. >>149158777 Only niggers believe private property rights aren't natural. Every man irrefutably owns his body, thus the apriori of private property. From this we can grow a system of a natural hierarchy. >>149160293 >>149160458 You kikes name one thing in which libertarianism supports the jews without making them seem like a hard working people.",,Anonymous,złodzieje.jpg,MVnHsMN/mSpqk5TFyAA+dA==,PL,,1510510165 149153262,149164036,2017-11-12 18:10:53,">>149163870 Its all OC baby, I'll do my best to keep on making it",,Anonymous,RR (4).png,RqkrvwUsS0gIU2u2c0M3zQ==,,,1510510253 149153262,149164234,2017-11-12 18:12:24,">>149164036 My dick just got hard, this reminds me of the lrg populist memo saying ""Get the bums of our streets, where will they go? Who cares!""",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510510344 149153262,149164512,2017-11-12 18:14:49,">>149164234 That's where I got it from. >RIGHT-WING POPULISM - MURRAY ROTHBARD https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html",,Anonymous,RR (7).png,0XnBpiRDCyF0PbWfIPjakQ==,,,1510510489 149153262,149165494,2017-11-12 18:23:02,">>149164512 When I will be getting enough money to leave freely and not month to month I consider getting in contact with the Hoppean Snake Memes guy and offering him a payment.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510510982 149153262,149166458,2017-11-12 18:31:31,">>149165494 he's not hard to get a hold of, but desu /lrg/ makes better content. kek give me your shekels if you really want to support those who propagate for the cause.",,Anonymous,mcv (4).png,XNeppskUUmSDNCdyyq4tSA==,,,1510511491 149153262,149166703,2017-11-12 18:33:40,">>149166458 Hopefully the next wave of elites will push right wing libertarianism all over the world, we live in the time which shall decide the future policy of the world.",,Anonymous,cop car.jpg,Qbjv6Iz485ti0Nyb2n0TEA==,PL,,1510511620 149153262,149167095,2017-11-12 18:37:11,">>149166703 I think the age of monarcho-libertarians is coming soon. thats our best hope.",,Anonymous,2222_773a0.jpg,iZfLRAkjMteZsrYzJSFOnQ==,,,1510511831 149153262,149168988,2017-11-12 18:53:59,">>149163851 see how I recoil",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1510512839 149153262,149169263,2017-11-12 18:56:34,">>149168988 lol, you bastard slovak. made me make an ass out of myself",,Anonymous,images.jpg,CM+RY8ehh/HP/ZJEl9Sl7Q==,,,1510512994 149153262,149169397,2017-11-12 18:57:45,,,Anonymous,christophercantwell1000x500.jpg,wYTVDSFZ+CxDFZ2B8SPIsg==,,,1510513065 149153262,149170925,2017-11-12 19:11:27,,,Anonymous,RWDS.png,1nmChFp1Z6fkqBOurAZYLg==,,,1510513887 149593484,149593484,2017-11-15 18:15:33,"Motto of the day: Timothy McVeigh didn't blow ATF the fuck out so you could be a slave of your government. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things libertarian - private system of government, natural law, laissez-faire economy, and sovereignity, as well as organisation, tactics, and long-term strategy. We encourage debate, so long as all parties recognise that property norms are inherent in each civil exchange between multiple consenting individuals. Communists explicitly reject property norms and as such will not be respected. Discord server: /sXwfD5K Pastebin link: pastebin.com/0rkTentN",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General - Kampfy Edition,Anonymous,timmy hate.png,a66PSsNV6lMTes72odnuyg==,SK,,1510769733 149593484,149593592,2017-11-15 18:16:28,"Frequent misconceptions: >What is the libertarian stance on open borders? A full privatisation of all property implies the owners' full right of exlusion or inclusion to their property only, being responsible for the accomodation, as well as legally for the good behaviour of their invitees, which automatically rules out inviting jihadis and other savages with no concepts of property norms into civilised lands in large numbers. As long as a state exists, however, closed borders (forced exclusion) are preferrable to open borders (forced integration), if for no other reason than there being fewer people within the reach of a State to be expropriated by it. >Is capitalism Jewish/degenerate? Capitalism is the natural order of things, most commonly used in regard to the economy. It is the lack of restrictions on grounds other than natural law, which must be equally appliable to everyone. Deviation from this model ultimately means higher time preference rates among people, meaning immediate satisfaction is preferred over long-term investment, which in turn leads to less interest in production and more interest in leisure activities, meaning general poverty. This goes to show that socialism, not capitalism, works best for the Jewish interest of turning the gentiles into hedonistic cattle. >Who would build the roads? Scarcity of space implies the need for people and goods to move from point A to point B. Generally, this means that roads must be established, as land transport remains one of the most heavily used modes of transportation. There is a market for roads in any society, the state just holds a monopoly over it. >What is the libertarian position on usury? The main problem with interest loan provision is the historical monopoly the highly tribalistic Jewish communities have held over it, often due to state intervention (which was comparatively extremely rare in those times).",,Anonymous,benjamin franklin money.jpg,+eLcC2LwnnFANDfPRSjIkg==,SK,,1510769788 149593484,149593679,2017-11-15 18:17:04,Hail /lrg/!,,Anonymous,The Family_Full.png,CBwhYh4z7kc8lqDhV7HmLw==,,,1510769824 149593484,149593712,2017-11-15 18:17:17,"Recommended reading: BOOKS >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Theory of Socialism and Capitalism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant ARTICLES >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property by Llewellyn Rockwell - mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property >A Realistic Libertarianism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ >For A New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Nations by Consent by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Race! That Murray Book by Murray Rothbard - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,SK,,1510769837 149593484,149593802,2017-11-15 18:18:02,"Media: PODCASTS/VIDEOS >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods Show >radicalagenda.com - Radical Agenda / Letters from a Charlottesville Jail / Cantwell & Kessler / LIVE from Seg! (Christopher Cantwell) >youtube.com/stefbot - Steben Bolynu :DD >youtube.com/channel/UCR7pD2JAMKUx4LH93YWjaXw - morrakiu.com - Morrakiu >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus ARTICLES >mises.org - Mises Institute >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society",,Anonymous,lrg atlas shrugged.png,bZx0+B6E/myo7tginE3hCw==,SK,,1510769882 149593484,149593907,2017-11-15 18:18:52,"Videos/podcasts: >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >For a New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc >Radical Agenda by Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >The War on Terror by Augustus Sol Invictus - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U >The Leftist Invasion of Libertarianism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHv9NyeS3s0 >Attempts To Reach The Left: An Unmitigated Disaster by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQBJPZKR28 >Individualism and Group Interests by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5eQ5tEoRk >The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM >In Defence of Capitalism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiJGDShHJg",,Anonymous,lrg remove the left.png,9FzuelM7b5rL6aYH5Fj2Ow==,SK,,1510769932 149593484,149594010,2017-11-15 18:19:44,,,Anonymous,Crush.png,HQl3OeUH7jJVktLD9nJrwA==,,,1510769984 149593484,149594061,2017-11-15 18:20:11,">>149593484 I noticed something",,Anonymous,1510778539693.jpg,ySuf6D93uwGLrIZT/A+vXw==,,,1510770011 149593484,149594103,2017-11-15 18:20:36,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1510770036 149593484,149594122,2017-11-15 18:20:44,Post aesthetics lads,,Anonymous,snek aurora borealis.png,X5iuUGxp/H2xIYJkdVWqhQ==,SK,,1510770044 149593484,149594124,2017-11-15 18:20:45,">>149594061 Is this the ultimate cuck suit?",,Anonymous,1200px-Jeffrey_Tucker_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg,JIW1SmitOHcEy2IGOzkTpg==,US,,1510770045 149593484,149594126,2017-11-15 18:20:48,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1510770048 149593484,149594199,2017-11-15 18:21:21,"Get ready to have your NAPs violated by my state's formiddable military, anarcucks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510770081 149593484,149594286,2017-11-15 18:22:05,,,Anonymous,Physical Removal.gif,vsfi2J0kXMHrmZymXzozAw==,,,1510770125 149593484,149594292,2017-11-15 18:22:09,>>149594124,,Anonymous,LibRightGen.png,DAo6xn5yvke1kVAw7+HlUQ==,,,1510770129 149593484,149594333,2017-11-15 18:22:28,,,Anonymous,RR (1).png,efKiEmenD4v9rgs2OukcGg==,,,1510770148 149593484,149594428,2017-11-15 18:23:12,">>149594061 >>149594124 NOT THE BOW TIE AAAAAAAAAAAAA Also daily reminder to support your local political prisoner. Big update on Cantwell's case after the first hearing: https://radicalagenda.com/?powerpress_pinw=1561-podcast",,Anonymous,cantwellwave.png,VpnCYw2spn7Jc+jhEHV3ng==,SK,,1510770192 149593484,149594499,2017-11-15 18:23:44,>>149594428,,Anonymous,freecantwell.png,3vhd5MVnAivyYPGHlPKPkw==,,,1510770224 149593484,149594573,2017-11-15 18:24:23,,,Anonymous,mcv (4).png,XNeppskUUmSDNCdyyq4tSA==,,,1510770263 149593484,149594607,2017-11-15 18:24:40,,,Anonymous,RR (8).png,kKcuyR3CWM0sY/Wq4KpC/w==,,,1510770280 149593484,149594625,2017-11-15 18:24:51,,,Anonymous,RR (10).png,bIDcgm8bWRNUv8EN7ypOkQ==,,,1510770291 149593484,149594732,2017-11-15 18:25:45,,,Anonymous,RR (2.1).png,iqvmEhK89v/DCiRS5PmN0g==,,,1510770345 149593484,149595250,2017-11-15 18:30:00,>>149593484,,Anonymous,confedgadsden.png,/67otGrSux8H35UBXrALnw==,,,1510770600 149593484,149595473,2017-11-15 18:31:56,">>149595250 The /lrg/ Confederate nations of AnCapia will rise!",,Anonymous,Dixie.png,jSNsi3yY+bc+qMzoAQN9FA==,,,1510770716 149593484,149595559,2017-11-15 18:32:47,">>149594199 Okay, Austin Petersen, we'll just firebomb your weed fields where you take photos of your mixed-race child prostitutes and when the smoke gets you high off your balls, we'll swoop in with gas masks and pave a road over your house.",,Anonymous,ancap andy 1.jpg,JdT/5uo6wYWQqiwacLA9DA==,SK,,1510770767 149593484,149595619,2017-11-15 18:33:15,">>149595473 did someone say Confederate?",,Anonymous,lrg flag WIP.png,/ImPxVjJVlCrM3lJyqLJjA==,SK,,1510770795 149593484,149595680,2017-11-15 18:33:43,"For anyone who missed it, I'd like to point out our lord and savior Jeffrey Tucker did an AMA on our 2nd favorite website the other day! >reddit.com/r/GoldandBlack/comments/7c58e5/i_am_jeffrey_tucker_ama/?sort=qa",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510770823 149593484,149596251,2017-11-15 18:38:33,">>149595680 Feast your eyes.",,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-11-15_18-37-56.png,Wbqtg1JURFSEk6+Ws18WnQ==,US,,1510771113 149593484,149596920,2017-11-15 18:43:53,">>149596251 what a fucking faggot.",,Anonymous,DontFukWithDis2.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,,,1510771433 149593484,149597282,2017-11-15 18:46:33,"Twitter is festered with leftist libertarians, 60% of an-cap twitter is against Hoppe and cannot rationally think about private societies, makes me fucking mad. I wanted to ask you guys about JFK, what did he do what did he not do exc. What do you think about your assasinated Democrat president?",,Anonymous,Doom paul1.jpg,L6YDFNmtuK6/HcDFdQKbNQ==,PL,,1510771593 149593484,149597727,2017-11-15 18:50:11,">>149593484 What's the position of libertarians regarding cultural marxism and gender ideology? How do you counter the social influence they already have?",,Anonymous,,,PY,,1510771811 149593484,149598317,2017-11-15 18:54:47,">>149597727 Honestly? Gunning down people who propagate that shit. I'm sorry, but you're a communist, that means you prefer violence to civility, that constitutes a threat, now dig your own grave so I don't have to touch your AIDS-ridden body to make you take a dirt NAP.",,Anonymous,snek human rights.jpg,WzxOo1i9qyBbnLUcrz39jQ==,SK,,1510772087 149593484,149598460,2017-11-15 18:56:03,">>149597727 It needs to be physically removed from society. Hans Hoppe probably represents all of right wing libertarian's view. The way to counter it is expose the truth. Privatise the institutions they took over. Decentralise goverments. Truth shall prevail, socialism doesn't work. Degeneracy leads to socialism. BTW, like the previous Slovak-bro said: If someone doesn't believe in private property, he doesn't believe he owns his own body. Go fucking enslave that bitch untill he proves property exists.",,Anonymous,1510524608801.jpg,XyoMNNEwSgqT6E1Uc9bb1Q==,PL,,1510772163 149593484,149599224,2017-11-15 19:02:14,">>149598317 >>149598460 good posts fukken saved",,Anonymous,m15470.jpg,/RzqkCCrcZ/aeLNPNk93Dg==,,,1510772534 149593484,149599256,2017-11-15 19:02:28,">>149598460 >>149598317 And what about abortion? The use of all kind of drugs? Prostitution? The christian values? Any recommended reading about these topics?",,Anonymous,,,PY,,1510772548 149593484,149600202,2017-11-15 19:10:11,">>149599256 Abortion: It's the same with drugs. Banning abortion and drugs is good morally, but physically it does nothing. The true problem is degeneration. I'd like to live in a private property where those things are VOLUNTARILY banned. Prostitution - same. Immoral, but a private property issue. Christian values - Only objectivist moral system, I favour catholicism the most. Any reading - I basically do not read books on these topics. I recommend lectures of libertarians. I mostly read the Polish stuff, from Korwin and Michalkiewicz but probably no translation. I really shill hard for Hans Herman Hoppe, read him, listen to him, read his blogs, whatever. This man is the future of private property philosophy, society, economy and law.",,Anonymous,1510523045050.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PL,,1510773011 149593484,149600794,2017-11-15 19:15:04,">>149599256 There are talks about whether abortion constitutes murder or not, in any case it is an abhorrent case of irresponsible behaviour and thus I wouldn't do business with any abortion-haver. Most druggies are shunned for a reason, and the few who are responsible with their use are still inferior to a non-user, ceteris paribus, but non-agressive and not a net drain to society. However, dealers deserve the rope 99% of the time - I dream of autonomous communities in the South where the opioid crisis hit them the hardest, where they put dealers' heads on spikes outside of their gates. Street prostitution is degenerate and won't exist in a privatised society, brothels are a net negative for everybody involved, thus they shouldn't be erected anywhere near other property, and escorts are largely harmless though still immoral - see abortion above. Christian values are a result of low time preference and conflict resolution among a larger group of people. They'll survive all right. Read Democracy - The God that Failed, it has pretty much all the stuff you need to know about the nature of things.",,Anonymous,hoppe researchers btfo.jpg,CSXfckuydyl756gQz9Z0eg==,SK,,1510773304 149593484,149601401,2017-11-15 19:19:47,"BTW if anyone wants to see proof Joe Biden abused his position to touch little girls inaproprietely, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoLHn577xIE Also a good thing about body language.",,Anonymous,1509906643300.jpg,TwE8j87njwGvhYbxNVWAxg==,PL,,1510773587 149593484,149601422,2017-11-15 19:19:55,">>149600202 This. If you don't aim at the root of the problem, it'll grow back. Turn social issues into marginal bothers with simple laws of nature.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1510773595 149593484,149603566,2017-11-15 19:37:09,bump,,Anonymous,Hoppe (16).jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,,,1510774629 149593484,149603872,2017-11-15 19:39:49,">>149603566 Christ he looks cool. This man is the final solution to philosophy not having an objective end.",,Anonymous,1510498536525.jpg,pDfE56vnURCedk44sPIKzg==,PL,,1510774789 149593484,149604345,2017-11-15 19:44:08,">>149603872 Hail Hoppe! There can be no tolerance for democrats and communists! We will destroy them and subjugate the survivors from now until the end of time!",,Anonymous,PHYSICAL_REMOVAL_TIME(2).png,a7z6R4FgMqtla7VghEM79A==,,,1510775048 149593484,149604609,2017-11-15 19:46:23,">>149604345 Hail Hoppe! This remind me of Christ Cantwell, any big news on him?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510775183 149593484,149604701,2017-11-15 19:47:12,The state must be recognized as the source of decivilization.,,Anonymous,naturalorder.png,ilQ3ENyaaqcvjd2AF+kIpg==,US,,1510775232 149593484,149605071,2017-11-15 19:50:10,">>149593484 fuck timothy mcveigh fuck that huge piece of shit. he knew there was a day care center full of kids and didn't give a shit. he blew it up anyways such a piece of shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510775410 149593484,149605363,2017-11-15 19:52:34,">>149604609 He had 2/3 of the charges dropped, still in jail. likely gonna drop the last charge, no known court date.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510775554 149593484,149605557,2017-11-15 19:54:07,">>149605071 >muh 168 gorrilian very fake news.",,Anonymous,Eagle.png,yrHf5uXPnkPP+29fTZTlxA==,,,1510775647 149593484,149605694,2017-11-15 19:55:17,">>149605557 I support terrorism but this was fucking pointless and idiotic. To quote Korwin on Brevik ""I would have saluted him and ordered to shoot him!"".",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510775717 149593484,149605841,2017-11-15 19:56:34,">>149605557 Fuck you, you piece of shit. I lived in norman and had relatives in okc when it happened. I saw the destruction right after. That building was destroyed. He was a monster and fucking piece of shit. I generally don't give a fuck on /pol/ but keep pulling this shit and i'll just report it to the fbi. I don't give a fuck. Keep fucking around. This is personal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510775794 149593484,149605975,2017-11-15 19:57:49,">>149593484 I knew it!",,Anonymous,Linus.jpg,b955XhVZaM/wlhFZT3qFrg==,CA,,1510775869 149593484,149606230,2017-11-15 19:59:59,">>149605841 I've seen the atrocities commited by the state, I understand why he did what he did. Should that knowledge be a crime?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510775999 149593484,149606468,2017-11-15 20:02:02,">>149593484 You have -one 1993 Ford F-700 Ryder rental truck -4,800 pounds of ammonium nitrate and nitromethane -time-delayed fuses and non-electric blasting caps -one angry and disillusioned 25 year old Gulf War veteran who can be programed via MKULTRA to deliver the truck to any individual or group thinking that they are responsible for burning 80 people alive at a Branch Davidian church in McLennan County, Texas -one time machine with enough power to send all of the above to any location on Earth at any date within the last 10,000 years but not within the past 365 days. Where and when do you send truckboy and who do you instruct him to deliver 2.4 tons of fertilizer enrichment to?",,Nathan Bedford Forrest,Fedniggers BTFO.png,jwi2hDH61OH5Bn2XyuUrnQ==,,,1510776122 149593484,149606654,2017-11-15 20:03:39,">>149606468 White house, any point of time really.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510776219 149593484,149606712,2017-11-15 20:04:11,">>149606230 Fine. You want to fuck around with this shit. Okay. Do not ever put that piece of shit on a pedestal ever fucking again. I'm not fucking playing around with you fucks. You want to prop up a man who kills american kids? Fuck you. I reported the thread to the fbi. 5 Minutes ago. Fuck you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510776251 149593484,149606734,2017-11-15 20:04:19,">>149606468 Sinking Spring Farm, Kentucky February 12, 1809",,Anonymous,"Abraham_Lincoln_seated,_Feb_9,_1864.jpg",UeFS2k9rOeuNWboJJvgmpg==,,,1510776259 149593484,149606818,2017-11-15 20:05:13,">>149606712 I've commited no crime. My conscience is clean.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510776313 149593484,149607074,2017-11-15 20:07:34,">>149593484 >libertarian >right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510776454 149593484,149607120,2017-11-15 20:08:00,">>149606712 Faggot. This is why women and reddiots shouldn't be in power.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510776480 149593484,149607497,2017-11-15 20:11:18,"save build skills so you can work remotely on your own plan to move the fuck out of statist shitholes and start ancapia anything else is pointless procrastination no need to evangelize, we're enought already, there's enought quality divulgation over the internet already, our growth rate due to the internet is good move the fuck on think how to explain to your children why you had them as a head of cattle https://youtu.be/liicU69pe24?t=2m",,Anonymous,,,,,1510776678 149593484,149607611,2017-11-15 20:12:16,">>149607497 I'm already on it. Soon my friend.",,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,,,1510776736 149593484,149608870,2017-11-15 20:22:48,">>149607611 where do you plan to move tho, soon you say? IMO there's a shit show in this regard, there's no serious libertarian/ancap project that focus on removing ourselves out instead of fixing the world around like a wannabe messiah liberland or new hampshire are extremely bland, most ancaps/libertariasn worldwide don't even think about forming communities but instead fall to tring to rescue their homelands SAD",,Anonymous,1500600999590.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1510777368 149593484,149609653,2017-11-15 20:29:17,">>149608870 Im focusing it more on my family, I do not plan on welcoming the unwashed hordes of left libertarians and anyone who identifies as an Anarcho-Capitalist. My location is based on whats close to the people I love, ideal farming conditions and far away from the reach of the law. I suggest you do the same if thats your goal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510777757 149593484,149611831,2017-11-15 20:47:47,bump,,Anonymous,Live REEE.png,pmSIyfgFr5Jo6FWZUPDzew==,,,1510778867 149593484,149612079,2017-11-15 20:49:44,">>149609653 going off the grid works out to become resilient no matter what happens and it can actually be a healthy way to raise children with good values but it lacks ambition community wise for my taste all cities ever have started from scratch by some lads sorting things out, not even with purchase power we can seek massive scale and yet keep it excluded from lolbertarians, there's no competence on this matter",,Anonymous,,,,,1510778984 149593484,149613160,2017-11-15 20:59:19,">>149593484 >mcveigh was a libertarian >not a fed plant >he wasn't whisked away from the supposed execution and placed in some rural town after growing a beard lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510779559 149593484,149613260,2017-11-15 21:00:00,">>149598460 wrong kiddo it doesn't need to be removed if it's not inside from the start truth is, you're the anomaly in the current society, you can't expect to remove everything around you while you can simply move your fucking ass no, not even your country is going to do good not degrading like your neighbours the average joe values doesn't give you good foundations all of the sudden hoppe is wrong where his attempts are focused to rescue western nations and not about funding new ones on alternate layers",,Anonymous,,,,,1510779600 149593484,149613611,2017-11-15 21:02:56,">>149593907 This photo is from Greece (2011) clashes between Anarchists and Communists (one guy killed that day) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-U7_Pyxwkc",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1510779776 149593484,149613738,2017-11-15 21:03:57,">>149613260 Hoppe focuses on private society. He recognizes you cannot remove someone from his property, don't know what are you talking about.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510779837 149593484,149614339,2017-11-15 21:09:29,"Why are all ancaps also numales, is it by chance?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510780169 149593484,149614572,2017-11-15 21:11:28,">>149614339 >this >nu-male more like the oldest-males in the room.",,Anonymous,Paleocrew.jpg,lHNKaB9i3JrmzW/D15Cq6g==,,,1510780288 149593484,149614938,2017-11-15 21:14:19,">>149613738 in practice, there's no real propietors, and theoretically, the real property is always of the state, as it's absolute and open to any arbitration because (insert collectivist screeching) so yeah, he sets how the game works, he points out the elephant in the room, that there's a technical problem, freedom enemies must be PHISICALLY removed. Yeah, that's truth, but it's naive to put the same thought as a guiderline, because you may forget we're the absolute minority, and it's more practical to pack up and remove ourselves away, and concregate with like-minded people from all around the globe (happens to be mostly US and europe anyways), and start a real comunity where to build a home you can't expect to rescue your very own nation, because that's a lost fight we're not the first trying that, the state has been around for millenias boi",,Anonymous,,,,,1510780459 149593484,149615136,2017-11-15 21:15:58,">>149614572 You'll forgive me if I don't view these (((cosmopolitan operators))) as representative of the an(ime)cap movement. Won't you?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510780558 149593484,149615273,2017-11-15 21:17:07,">>149614938 the phisical removal meme should be turn around to phisically remove ourselves then apply the hoppean one, but not first!!! AT LAST!!!",,Anonymous,1496531935154.jpg,zfQPXjKVtssfvdxgQ893IQ==,,,1510780627 149593484,149615461,2017-11-15 21:18:35,">>149615136 are you gay? then stop acting so gayer",,Anonymous,,,,,1510780715 149593484,149615523,2017-11-15 21:19:05,">>149593484 ITT: Jew general",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510780745 149593484,149615626,2017-11-15 21:19:59,">>149615136 I assure you these are no cosmopolitans. and the only valid Anarcho-Capitalist movement is /lrg/, the nu-males you speak of are communist subversives who have plauged the movement for years.",,Anonymous,image.png,EYeLwUW+3Ds4pH8hCByrDQ==,,,1510780799 149593484,149615705,2017-11-15 21:20:31,">>149615523 your sorcery doesn't work here",,Anonymous,,,,,1510780831 149593484,149615707,2017-11-15 21:20:33,">>149615523 >Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism, Invented by jews, ect ect. STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.",,Anonymous,jews.png,al+7MIsDMwLL/s3dnc9UYQ==,,,1510780833 149593484,149615793,2017-11-15 21:21:07,have some l i b e r t y w a v e,,Anonymous,tree.jpg,TfrIgJ402m8u7lFAnI5bxA==,BE,,1510780867 149593484,149616238,2017-11-15 21:25:02,">>149615626 If you have to pick one: The NAP or your race?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510781102 149593484,149616575,2017-11-15 21:27:53,">>149616238 My race layed the foundation for property rights, it is the basis for our great civilizations, by picking one you get the other. have you ever seen a more white group than libertarians?",,Anonymous,7e292b9b2c07e83cb1626f3eaff6bfb45066cb5ee3ef5c765ef1d9107bf5df03.jpg,pEgr2mcLJaMPJU5Jth4A4g==,,,1510781273 149593484,149617031,2017-11-15 21:31:39,">>149616238 the second is implied in the first one nature is beautiful",,Anonymous,,,,,1510781499 149593484,149618765,2017-11-15 21:45:44,">>149607497 This. Holy shit, this. There is nothing better you can do for your movement than becoming an autodidact. Teach yourself whatever skills you must. A degree is nice, but teaching yourself is critical. Put down whatever treatise on economics/ethics you're reading. Go to: >>>/biz/ >>>/fit/ >>>/g/ >>>/int/ >>>/sci/ Search their guides. Acquire their books through libgen.io or whatever other site you know of. Learn: >The mathematics of finance >How to invest >Electrical, mechanical, or computer engineering >A proper fitness program >Nutrition >A foreign language and culture Whatever you need. If you're going to secure your freedom, you have to be ready to flee the degenerating west and live from wherever you must. Hoppe lives in Turkey. Doolittle lives in Ukraine. Personally, I'd like to go somewhere like Kazakhstan or Mongolia (even Greenland seems appealing, desu). Wherever you want to go, start making your preparations now.",,Anonymous,1506969496720.png,fVAd+B6MJd4SQ6qiOSUtjQ==,,,1510782344 149593484,149619281,2017-11-15 21:49:52,">>149616575 >My race layed the foundation for property rights No. What the fuck are you talking about? Unless you are poo in loo or something you'll find you have some trouble backing that up. >>149617031 The NAP has nothing to do with nature. While the NAP operates on the principle of ""legitimate defense"", nature operates on available defense and possible offense.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510782592 149593484,149619720,2017-11-15 21:53:44,">>149619281 >Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all european Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. All civilized behaivor stems from idea that what is mine is mine and whats your is yours, anything less is nigger-like barbarism.",,Anonymous,Hoppe2.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1510782824 149593484,149620095,2017-11-15 21:56:53,">>149606712 Will I be droned?",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1510783013 149593484,149620300,2017-11-15 21:58:43,">>149619720 There were property rights long before the 1600s. >idea that what is mine is mine and whats your is yours That is a platitude. What is mine? I suggest, that which is gained by taking and held by defending.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510783123 149593484,149620619,2017-11-15 22:01:38,">>149605841 >I lived in norman and had relatives in okc when it happened Everytime",,Anonymous,,,,,1510783298 149593484,149620758,2017-11-15 22:02:55,">>149606712 >I reported the thread to the fbi. 5 Minutes ago. kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1510783375 149593484,149621211,2017-11-15 22:06:41,">>149620300 Stealing is not civil behavior. No civil society has ever existed on the philosophy the sort of legalized theft implied by rejecting all notions of property norms. Property norms are observably at the very core of civil conduct.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510783601 149593484,149622034,2017-11-15 22:13:40,">>149621211 You don't think I agree with this? Theft is as universal as laws is every civil society that has ever existed. There is no such thing as legalized theft.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510784020 149593484,149622897,2017-11-15 22:21:24,">>149622034 I'm glad you agree.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510784484 149593484,149623542,2017-11-15 22:27:28,">>149622897 So if you have no objections and we've settled, amongst other things, that there can be no such thing as ""legalized theft"", we should be able to finally put to rest the libertarian notion that ""taxation is theft"". You should take some time to think about what this means for your belief system. Good luck.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510784848 149864308,149864308,2017-11-17 18:29:27,"Motto of the day: If you reject the non-aggression principle, you should have no complaints about being thrown from a helicopter. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things libertarian - private system of government, natural law, laissez-faire economy, and sovereignty, as well as organization, tactics, and long-term strategy. Debate is normally encouraged, ""so long as all parties recognize that property norms are inherent in each civil exchange between multiple consenting individuals"". However, if you're not right-wing and you're not libertarian, you consciously reject that concept, so I'd prefer you kill yourself instead. Discord server: /sXwfD5K Pastebin link: pastebin.com/0rkTentN Thread theme: https://youtu.be/sEH2M1HBuzQ",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - YOU は SHOCK EDITION,Anonymous,お前はもう死んでいる.png,hHDLbd+hNuIJp7ExsAioFg==,,,1510943367 149864308,149864404,2017-11-17 18:30:22,">>149864308 Frequent misconceptions: >What is the libertarian stance on open borders? A full privatization of all property implies the owners' full right of exclusion or inclusion to their property only, being responsible for the accommodation, as well as legally for the good behavior of their invitees, which automatically rules out inviting jihadis and other savages with no concepts of property norms into civilized lands in large numbers. As long as a state exists, however, closed borders (forced exclusion) are preferable to open borders (forced integration), if for no other reason than there being fewer people within the reach of a State to be expropriated by it. >(((Capitalism))) is degenerate! ""Capitalism"" is the natural order of things, most commonly used in reference to the economy. It is the lack of restrictions on grounds other than natural law, which must be equally applicable to everyone. Deviation from this model ultimately means higher time preference rates among people, meaning immediate satisfaction is preferred over long-term investment, which in turn leads to less interest in production and more interest in leisure activities, meaning general poverty. This goes to show that socialism, not capitalism, works best for the Jewish interest of turning the gentiles into hedonistic cattle. >Who would build muh roads? Scarcity of space implies the need for people and goods to move from point A to point B. Generally, this means that roads must be established, as land transport remains one of the most heavily used modes of transportation. There is a market for roads in any society, the state just holds a monopoly over it. >What is the libertarian position on usury? The main problem with interest loan provision is the historical monopoly the highly tribalistic Jewish communities have held over it, often due to state intervention (which was comparatively extremely rare in those times).",,Anonymous,自由を取り戻せ！！.jpg,x5+iBlmkxxwV5laERl+Z4w==,,,1510943422 149864308,149864502,2017-11-17 18:31:19,">>149864404 Recommended reading: BOOKS >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Theory of Socialism and Capitalism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant ARTICLES >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property by Llewellyn Rockwell - mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property >A Realistic Libertarianism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ >For A New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Nations by Consent by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Race! That Murray Book by Murray Rothbard - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0",,Anonymous,1508978329166.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,,,1510943479 149864308,149864600,2017-11-17 18:32:07,">>149864502 Media: PODCASTS/VIDEOS >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods Show >radicalagenda.com - Radical Agenda / Letters from a Charlottesville Jail / Cantwell & Kessler / LIVE from Seg! (Christopher Cantwell) >youtube.com/stefbot - Steben Bolynu :DD >youtube.com/channel/UCR7pD2JAMKUx4LH93YWjaXw - morrakiu.com - Morrakiu >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus ARTICLES >mises.org - Mises Institute >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society",,Anonymous,物理的除去拳.jpg,Em9uhx/f43rD3J+yULShNw==,,,1510943527 149864308,149864694,2017-11-17 18:32:58,">>149864600 Videos/podcasts: >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >For a New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc >Radical Agenda by Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >The War on Terror by Augustus Sol Invictus - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U >The Leftist Invasion of Libertarianism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHv9NyeS3s0 >Attempts To Reach The Left: An Unmitigated Disaster by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQBJPZKR28 >Individualism and Group Interests by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5eQ5tEoRk >The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM >In Defence of Capitalism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiJGDShHJg",,Anonymous,Janusz Korwin-Mikke.jpg,PwVdnGrHvBbkX7mpdxBuhw==,,,1510943578 149864308,149865078,2017-11-17 18:36:35,"I don't know what this anime crap is all about, but god bless you.",,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1510943795 149864308,149865515,2017-11-17 18:40:41,">>149865078 Fist of the North Star. Jap version of Mad Max, basically.",,Anonymous,christopher-cantwell-1000x500.jpg,wYTVDSFZ+CxDFZ2B8SPIsg==,,,1510944041 149864308,149867270,2017-11-17 18:56:41,,,Anonymous,NAP.png,5v04RK6lxulDymSQKrmI3A==,,,1510945001 149864308,149867617,2017-11-17 18:59:52,Do you really think this man would gas those communists? he wouldn't hurt a fly! FREE CHRIS CANTWELL,,Anonymous,cantwellpeace.png,f5+fg4ZYzLbSP8+sCiQx5w==,,,1510945192 149864308,149867839,2017-11-17 19:01:49,">>149867270 This what he is going to prison for?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510945309 149864308,149868183,2017-11-17 19:05:04,">>149867839 Not even, the guy he's macing in the picture didn't put any charges on him, it was determined that this incident was self defense. The guy who is pressing charges on him was no where to be seen in any video or photo.",,Anonymous,Milk.png,Bg6G5W0vPD41mjU0jxTINg==,,,1510945504 150667379,150667379,2017-11-23 19:48:03,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary ((((David Friedman)))) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,TPM,1492682883748.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,US,,1511466483 150667379,150668453,2017-11-23 19:59:58,bumparoono,,TPM,1492855433454.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,US,,1511467198 150667379,150669478,2017-11-23 20:10:51,"Daily reminder that Libertarianism is not Egoism. We believe in rules, we believe in society/community and we don't need a criminal to consent to being arrested.",,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1511467851 150667379,150669494,2017-11-23 20:11:05,bump bump bump,,TPM,,,US,,1511467865 150667379,150669633,2017-11-23 20:12:42,"Easy reading for those new to Liberty: The Law - Frederic Bastiat He's a charismatic french economist that wote some brilliant short works over 150 years ago that are easy reads and surprisingly thought provoking. He ends the book with a flourish too.",,Anonymous,bastiat-quote.jpg,zREj6YZNX3cIky9DX3Jeog==,,,1511467962 150667379,150669678,2017-11-23 20:13:08,"freedom is tailor made to the people, and as such the freedom of americans is not freedom to a brit, or vice versa. as ancaps we need to realise this and move onwards",,TPM,You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Liberty.jpg,8YssLLfN+SCgyLYrS+s15g==,,,1511467988 150667379,150670281,2017-11-23 20:19:36,">>150667379 Real An-Caps use the pirate flag tbqh senpai",,Anonymous,,,,,1511468376 150667379,150670411,2017-11-23 20:20:59,">>150670281 pirates aren't big on the whole 'morality' thing",,TPM,,,,,1511468459 150667379,150671215,2017-11-23 20:30:02,"Libertarianism is the most autistic, beta ideology there is",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511469002 150667379,150671433,2017-11-23 20:32:23,">>150671215 autistic? yes beta? no",,TPM,,,,,1511469143 150667379,150672058,2017-11-23 20:39:08,"You will NEVER have a libertarian society without hardline right wingers first shaking things up. Leftists promotes societal freedom (you can be gay, a different race, a pedophile, an attack helicopter) but not true individual freedom like being able to say what you want, carve out your own land, a protect it from invaders. If you ever want to see a libertarian society, support a right wing party that has libertarian ideals",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1511469548 150667379,150672455,2017-11-23 20:43:45,">>150672058 we are right wing friend, read the op",,TPM,,,,,1511469825 150667379,150672741,2017-11-23 20:46:49,">>150672455 >Liberating the markets and treating everyone with a base level of rights that they can't even guarantee for themselves >Right wing GFY",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1511470009 150667379,150672938,2017-11-23 20:48:54,">>150672741 pls define right and left wing pls",,TPM,,,,,1511470134 150667379,150673643,2017-11-23 20:56:31,">>150669678 Thasit mayne. Theoretical vague scenarios are pointless when the actions come down to the people and culture involved during/after a transition to a free society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511470591 150667379,150673828,2017-11-23 20:58:16,">>150673643 exactly, ancap by itself is flawed becuase of its lefitst nature, solution? don't be a leftist",,TPM,,,,,1511470696 150667379,150674172,2017-11-23 21:01:59,">>150673828 > ancap > leftist nature > dont be a leftist Aye?",,Anonymous,1505331294123.png,13GT4DAU1XZfCZSfywoeSg==,,,1511470919 150667379,150674362,2017-11-23 21:03:51,">>150674172 leftists think all men are created equal and explain difference with socio-economic explainations right winger don't, think about what that implies, and... don't be leftwing",,TPM,,,,,1511471031 150667379,150674713,2017-11-23 21:07:24,">>150674362 The blurry line we have to be careful with on that is that Liberty & self ownership necessitate looking at people as individuals who can through their actions deviate from statistical trends and bell curves. So while we understand natural inequality there is a socio-economic impact and ultimately people should still be judged as individuals based on their actual acitons, not some minority report collectivist bullshit. That's what seperates us from both the liberal left and neocon right, the SJW left and the alt-right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511471244 150667379,150674813,2017-11-23 21:08:23,">>150667379 Libertarians are mass immigration nigger enablers.",,Anonymous,libertarians-go-full-kike-mass-immigration-open-borders.png,Z3HsQnbigfRZxT0R9a77vA==,US,,1511471303 150667379,150674818,2017-11-23 21:08:27,">>150667379 If you're going to violate your precious NAP because of ""thought crimes"" by commies or whoever the fuck, you might as well just be a commie for all your (((principles))) are worth. Relativist drivel at that point.",,Praceteom,1472956276983.jpg,8pd296u2Y5R1HTvwmerBIA==,,,1511471307 150667379,150675285,2017-11-23 21:13:38,,,Anonymous,1510333070868.png,IyoGhpzOg0P5ON5ZNvMkOQ==,US,,1511471618 150667379,150675353,2017-11-23 21:14:23,">>150674813 No we're not. >>150674818 Truth be told, you know Hoppe's physical removal thing is actually pretty misunderstood yeah? He actually talks about how subjectively, property owners should decline to rent/sell to Communists and if they deny property right to squat etc then physically remove them. He doesn't talk about lynching in the streets of suspected ""wrong-thinkers"" and anyone mememing that is either just having a joke or doesn't understand or has never actually read/absorbed what Hoppe is saying. Just thought I'd throw that out there. I hate this thought crime bullshit as well. Right-wing collectivism is a fucking cancer on par with the left in its ridiculousness but still underpowered in comparison.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511471663 150667379,150675556,2017-11-23 21:16:35,">>150675353 I know it's a meme but it's a meme some (((ancaps))) unironically think is not a meme.",,Praceteom,,,,,1511471795 150667379,150675566,2017-11-23 21:16:39,">>150667379 Fascists have been trying to hide within the Libertarian movement for a decade now. I suspect this is one of them. >uses cucks >rages against degeneracy >no respect for migrant movement across private property oh hai Clintonian ""alt-right""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511471799 150667379,150675654,2017-11-23 21:17:31,">>150674813 low-contributing members of society rely upon the state to maintain their lifestyle. without state, they would not be able to mooch off society and do nothing",,Anonymous,1505076704035.jpg,jM/n4Wj+wxi3DjbPiQjnJw==,,,1511471851 150667379,150675732,2017-11-23 21:18:27,">>150667379 Libertarians are just cucks that come cries to the government when it suits them. Either you go full alt-right or nothing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511471907 150667379,150675736,2017-11-23 21:18:27,/g/entooman reporting in,,Anonymous,step.png,wXcFFCIXcC0S5pBegVxfTQ==,PT,,1511471907 150667379,150675741,2017-11-23 21:18:30,">>150674713 >The blurry line we have to be careful with on that is that Liberty & self ownership necessitate looking at people as individuals who can through their actions deviate from statistical trends and bell curves. very true but a problem those of us that listen to hoppe don't fall into >So while we understand natural inequality there is a socio-economic impact and ultimately people should still be judged as individuals based on their actual actions, not some minority report collectivist bullshit. wrong, you can't import niggers, set them free, while holding them to the same standard, it doesn't work plain and simple, and hasn't for the HUNDREDS of years we had them here. plus the idea for freedom differs from people to people, as a group of people determine culture, thus you cannot have niggers, asians, latinos, etc. in a white majority area without them lagging and the same problems happening over and over >t.america now quit wrongthinking",,TPM,Hans on immagrations.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,,,1511471910 150667379,150675853,2017-11-23 21:19:37,">>150675556 useful idiots",,TPM,,,,,1511471977 150667379,150676042,2017-11-23 21:21:33,">>150675556 Hey some people vote greens because they actually think they're pro-environment rather than pro-marxism. It's just one of those things all movements have to deal with. We live in a time of fast-food consumption of information, people can't even be fucked reading an article beyond the headline or a meme posted about the article so it's no wonder people have misunderstood someone like Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511472093 150667379,150676090,2017-11-23 21:22:08,">>150675853 You can think of me however you like. If you support violence against people for thinking - but not doing - things you don't like but which hurt no person or property, you're really not morally separable from commies.",,Praceteom,,,,,1511472128 150667379,150676564,2017-11-23 21:27:10,">>150675741 No way, initiating force/violence/coercion on someone who hasn't actually done anything is not only immoral but the justification is too vague, too imprecise, too subjective to ever be implemented in reality and too collectivist to ever be correct. When you start mixing real science with pseudo-science and dividing society along collectivist categories you lose everything, you lose the soul of the society you lose the lot. The classical liberal values, the western values, the individualism, the appeal of liberty, it all gets lost in an endless us vs them collectivist tirade which is by design meant to create and inflame conflict, liberty has always been an idea of social harmony while carrying a big stick. The 3rd way of Liberty is only seperated from the two fighting wings of collectivism precisely because of the incredible insights of an individualist social/economic outlook.",,Anonymous,hayek-color.jpg,Al0Bwz9MF8GScQi4K64BjA==,,,1511472430 150667379,150676677,2017-11-23 21:28:14,">>150676090 i was saying those men are useful idiots, not you but for the sake of the bumps, let me play debilz advocado >You can think of me however you like. If you support violence against people for thinking - but not doing - things you don't like but which hurt no person or property, you're really not morally separable from commies. in some cases you can justify removing people based upon ideology, for example the marxist. the marxist believe ideologically that he cannot rest until the world undergoes full communist revolution. knowing that you can be suspicious of him, and much like the inner city nigger, you could frisk him and know that you'll find something to arrest him for. the marxist is the same, as the WILL want to destroy you. some kinds just don't get along, and like snakes and mongooses they must fight. ergo as ancaps, it is our ideological duty to persecute them and remove them on sight, even if they are not around covenant land and in their own communes",,TPM,,,,,1511472494 150667379,150676971,2017-11-23 21:31:30,">>150676677 >in some cases you can justify removing people based upon ideology No - you can't. The Marxist can say and think whatever he likes. He hasn't done anything wrong until he's ACTUALLY done something wrong. Words and thoughts don't warrant reprisal - if you think they do the NAP philosophy collapses immediately into blurry-lined relativistic nonsense.",,Praceteom,,,,,1511472690 150667379,150677170,2017-11-23 21:33:37,"Don't betray everything The Last Knight of true Liberalism fought for. He survived the rise of collectivism when socialists were causing revolution around the world and the brown shirts were marching down the street, keep the flame of liberty alive lads, like Mises & Leonard Read did in the darkest of times.",,Anonymous,Ayn-Rand-Rights.jpg,bflwWcPJhIZKVaeHmeNXcw==,,,1511472817 150667379,150677627,2017-11-23 21:38:50,">>150676677 Let me play devil's cashew to your advocado. > you can justify removing people based upon ideology By doing so you contradict all principles of Liberty; NAP, self-ownership, natural rights/god given rights/property rights etc. It is not defensive violence to initiate force based on subjectivity. > as the WILL want to destroy you No one knows the mind of another, you can't read minds, thought crimes are solely the domain of collectivism pseudo-logic. > it is our ideological duty to persecute them Even if it were okay to persecute people who haven't taken any actions to wrong you (punch a nazi), you have no way of determining a criteria of what constitutes wrong-think. Whether based on a colour scale, genetic/blood test, things they say, things you think they think, how they've acted previously in shitty environment etc. You can't claim to have the right to aggress against someone if you have no true criteria to distinguish who deserves to be aggressed against and why.",,Anonymous,Ayn-Rand-Individualist.jpg,FMMpy67HlMr/9CuRs8SrPA==,,,1511473130 150667379,150677875,2017-11-23 21:41:23,">>150677170 Ayn Rand was a woman you retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511473283 150667379,150678225,2017-11-23 21:45:02,">>150677875 Mises* I just like her quote, suck my dick.",,Anonymous,quote-the-distinctive-principle-of-western-social-philosophy-is-individualism-ludwig-von-mises-140-67-58.jpg,wLSmbuIdpIFdgoAy0ym8xQ==,,,1511473502 150667379,150678784,2017-11-23 21:50:52,">>150676564 pls highlight my points in green text to counter point, it very annoying picking out what you are talking about, and can lead to communication problems, so for give me if i seem like a collectivist from my answers >No way, initiating force/violence/coercion on someone who hasn't actually done anything is not only immoral but the justification is too vague, too imprecise, too subjective to ever be implemented in reality and too collectivist to ever be correct. why is it collective to assume such a thing? if anything is it not exoteric to see that as beings that share similar dna,making us each other, we are more compatible socially among our ethnic brethren, would share the same ideas of freedom, and that freedom would mean different things to the african, asian, the paki, the iranian, the texan, the lithuanian? >When you start mixing real science with pseudo-science what is the science and pseudoscience? in reference to what i speak of > dividing society along collectivist categories you lose everything, you lose the soul of the society you lose the lot. The classical liberal values, the western values, the individualism, the appeal of liberty where does society stem from? and what does society consist of? it stems from a people of similar genetic background that share heritage and common activities whites and blacks in the US alone live in different worlds and share different culture despite living here for HUNDREDS of years, people self segregate and that is normal, for example the city and the innercity. > it all gets lost in an endless us vs them collectivist tirade which is by design meant to create and inflame conflict nobody designed that,, we SHOULD however think of community as well, but that sense of community is lost when you can't even connect any level, unless the other submits to your culture completely . >liberty has always been an idea of social harmony while carrying a big stick. no disagreement there, but what is society?",,TPM,,,,,1511473852 150667379,150678957,2017-11-23 21:52:44,">>150676971 if the robber mulls outside your house, and you KNOW that he is a robber by reputation, do you wait till he invade at your weakest moment, or when you are out? no you take care of the threat. that is what property ownership is about, i am not talking of neighbors",,TPM,,,,,1511473964 150667379,150679260,2017-11-23 21:55:56,">>150678957 I'd probably put booby traps in my house and put a sign outside saying ""Private property - do not enter uninvited or risk death or serious injury"". I'm really not morally responsible for people being explicitly warned about static dangers on someone else's property who then take it upon themselves to trespass on the property they're explicitly warned about. I would NOT do anything AT ALL to the man who hasn't done anything to me or anyone else I know in aggression.",,Praceteom,,,,,1511474156 150667379,150679398,2017-11-23 21:57:29,Reminder that Rothbard was not a red-baiting retard like the people in these threads. The anti-communist conservatives were the ones who drove Rothbard and libertarians out of the post-war Right.,,Anonymous,,,,,1511474249 150667379,150679551,2017-11-23 21:59:05,">>150679398 Reminder that liberty doesn't care what cultural values you assault it in the name of.",,Praceteom,,,,,1511474345 150667379,150679756,2017-11-23 22:01:12,">>150678225 :^)",,Anonymous,110124.jpg,YK5DUEpa/aQQnwMa8cVVVw==,,,1511474472 150667379,150679925,2017-11-23 22:02:59,"Did you all have a good Thanksgiving? https://i.imgur.com/gz2hxhm.gifv",,Anonymous,1510870249360.jpg,JWjnEq6pmr9YebdaOACpcA==,,,1511474579 150667379,150680052,2017-11-23 22:04:29,">>150679756 >it has made gain not growth its aim ??? Gain IS the aim. You don't grow for growth's sake, you grow to meet an end that your growth is instrumental toward.",,Praceteom,,,,,1511474669 150667379,150680123,2017-11-23 22:05:11,">>150679925 That looks like a level in dark souls 2.",,Praceteom,,,,,1511474711 150667379,150680154,2017-11-23 22:05:28,,,Anonymous,books.jpg,lQf97SMk6d9hUmGBTyeTgw==,US,,1511474728 150667379,150680288,2017-11-23 22:06:47,">>150667379 Sub nibsta nobbsters I'm here from discord",,Rabatt-Uhrwerk Orangen,904576956436png.png,hJcoYrlwn12YAKl5oe0bKQ==,US,,1511474807 150667379,150682090,2017-11-23 22:24:12,">>150677627 > It is not defensive violence to initiate force based on subjectivity. it is not base in subjectivity, i know what marxism is, i know they will destroy us like a festering wound. where is the subjectivity? >No one knows the mind of another, you can't read minds, thought crimes are solely the domain of collectivism pseudo-logic. truly no one knows indeed, but if you follow an ideology, you know where their thoughts are going, a nazi you know his thoughts fore he is a nazi, a christian you know his thoughts fore his is a christian. see where i'm going? >Even if it were okay to persecute people who haven't taken any actions to wrong you (punch a nazi), you have no way of determining a criteria of what constitutes wrong-think the antifa is not wrong, the nazi will indeed make their idea of a hellscape, and vice versa, such it is the best interest of a marxist to remove those toxic to its mission, that is universal and within the rights of all to remove cancer from the body, as society is the body, body is nature, and nature is to fight each other based on collectivist/individualist ideas, such as these aforementioned ideas of race, politics, and liberty. what is not natural is a force to stop it(government), mob rule is the opposite of natural witch is autocratic in nature. what constitutes wrong think is think that is not yours, after the only reason you think you cannot calculate wrong think is only, because you were told, read so, or were raised in an environment that taught such. >You can't claim to have the right to aggress against... the criteria is what they fill their heads with, marxists are bad because of their beliefs which are universals to all marxists, as thats how philosophy works. the same can be said of the readers of plato, aristotle, aurelius, the followers of wahhabism, the beliefs of non atheistic satanists(think pedogate tier stuff). are all bads and will force you to submit and only destroy your rights",,TPM,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1511475852 150667379,150682179,2017-11-23 22:25:10,Remember when David Friedman visited one of these threads and BTFO Hoppean fake libertarians?,,Anonymous,hoppeans BTFO.png,pu7Qa0h8gg+dWZolyuF4zQ==,,,1511475910 150667379,150682257,2017-11-23 22:25:58,What does /lrg/ think about the new tax reform plan?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1511475958 150667379,150682293,2017-11-23 22:26:12,">>150679260 what if the man has robbed your neighbors just the other day, you've seen his face on the pictures from your neighbors cameras, for example",,TPM,,,,,1511475972 150667379,150682450,2017-11-23 22:27:31,">>150682179 >taking name fags seriously i realise the irony",,TPM,,,,,1511476051 150667379,150682503,2017-11-23 22:27:55,">>150682257 less governmental power is always nice",,TPM,,,,,1511476075 150667379,150682700,2017-11-23 22:30:01,">>150678784 If I mistook you for a collectivist and you're not then I apologize and if your ultimate point boils down to different cultures/backround being incompatible within a society then while I disagre I get where you're coming from. If you're talking about simply that interpretations and meaning of freedom differs between these groups then that's fair enough. >>150679756 > it's important to be not just to have While that's true men have wants and needs and they need not exclude personal growth. Pic related. > it has debarred one part of the community from being individual by starving them Oh what the fuck. Oscar Wilde sounds like a bit of twat, he doesn't seem to mention that humans need to be able to own and control the fruits of their labour in order to survive, create a society and grow. His form of individualism seems quite narrow in what he's talking about, he talks about an individuals ability to go down a creative path without having to rely or supplicate to others, while ignoring what makes the division of labour and property so important to allow people to go from a subsistence poverty living to one of personal growth. We talk of individualism in the form of ethics and economics, treated people as individuals, looking at individual rights and concept as they apply to individuals, this guy just don't like that people work for a living. > society should be constructed on a basis It's not really constructed, they call it spontaneous order for a reason > forced Solving the problems that come with being alive and nature isn't force, it sucks that people have to work but ivory tower people like this guy need to stop filling peoples heads that they can't live a fulfilling life while participating in lower skill jobs to survive and satisfy their other wants. One of the biggest issues in modern society right now is kids being filled with expectations that lead them to resent rather than to enjoy work-relationships and everything else.",,Anonymous,Maslows-Hierarchy.jpg,VaKM9Nm/BIE4iUVIQUuU/A==,,,1511476201 150667379,150682956,2017-11-23 22:32:48,">>150682700 If I mistook you for a collectivist and you're not then I apologize and if your ultimate point boils down to different cultures/backround being incompatible within a society then while I disagre I get where you're coming from. If you're talking about simply that interpretations and meaning of freedom differs between these groups then that's fair enough. it does, and you right on both, as both were my points. thanks for bringing me entertainment and bumping the thread",,TPM,,,,,1511476368 150667379,150682969,2017-11-23 22:32:57,">>150682450 It's David Friedman's writing style precisely.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511476377 150667379,150683090,2017-11-23 22:34:13,">>150682969 you don't know about the larps? autism is a strong force. unless he posted timestamps, i wouldn't believe it at all, but i've been here to long maybe",,TPM,,,,,1511476453 150667379,150683299,2017-11-23 22:36:29,">>150682090 > here is the subjectivity? In declaring to know what someone is, what their intentions are and what they will do before they do it. > if you follow an ideology, you know where their thoughts are going I don't think that's necessarily the case, we live in a time where vast majorities of people subscribe to parties and ideas without even truly understanding or following those parties of ideas in practice. You don't know a Nazi's thoughts or a Christian's in fact people barely know their own thoughts because they confuse emotions & chemicals with rational thought, that's why sales is so fascinating because people can be manipulated by how you make them feel and the visions you create in their mind, sort of like politics. You don't know what someone pictures in their minds eye when thinking of a Nazi society. For example; one mind picture shaving the heads of jews and kicking them down the street in revenge, another may picture people in uniform marching in unison as some form of discipline that appeals to them, these two nazi's can hold completely different views on many subjects. Christians themselves can have millions of different views on how to live a pious life and how society should be ordered to fit their views and interpretation. Again none of this is knowable or predictable and the criteria is just too subjective to just people that haven't acted, wrong-think and thought crimes just aren't logical. We see this with the lefts version against the ""alt-right"", that saying it's okay to be white means you are a white supremacist and belive XYZ and should therefore have no rights and deserve to be attacked. It just doesn't work, I don't know how anyone can think it does except to scratch a subjective emotional itch to hate & hurt people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511476589 150667379,150683879,2017-11-23 22:42:26,,,Anonymous,free-market-economy-past-present-and-future-5-638.jpg,f/1fAvDiuPR6OU1Zt8MSzQ==,,,1511476946 150667379,150685002,2017-11-23 22:53:55,">>150680154 I believe every ancap should start with the glory that is readings on the Age of Enlightenment, ja? After reading the Rights of Man, Wealth of Nations, writings by some American founding fathers, it's impossible to sympathize with the mental illness of modern liberalism",,Anonymous,,,,,1511477635 150667379,150686892,2017-11-23 23:13:44,">>150685002 I agree people should definitely dive into the enlightenment and not skip it or ignore it for purely ancap writing but surely there's some easier works most normies or newfags should take a look at if you're looking at it from an intro/persuasion standpoint rather than just a purely intellectual one. (I know that sounds weird)",,Anonymous,,,,,1511478824 150667379,150688336,2017-11-23 23:28:34,">>150683299 >In declaring to know what someone is, what their intentions are and what they will do before they do it. but you can contain about 200 people in your brain that you would know on a deep personal level. you need to make stereotypes eventually, unless you've found a way to know everyone. more on this, you do NOT need to read minds to take action. real world example:at 3am i walked outside to see a brown fellow(taco type) standing in my driveway, smoking, and scoping out my place. if i had a gun on my i would have shot him, lacking that as i did, i would've fought him. but fortunately for him and me, he dispersed into an ally and i've never seen him since(filthy outta towners amiright?). point is, i didn't need to read his mind to know that he intended to rob the place, i just knew. >minds eye when thinking of a Nazi society. For example; one mind picture shaving the heads of jews and kicking them down the street in revenge, another may picture people in uniform marching in unison as some form of discipline that appeals to them, these two nazi's can hold completely different views on many subjects. i see what you are thinking here, but i might counter point that if they indeed have even read mein kampf(launching them outta larp tier) then their idea of nazi germany will be similar, as both the man dreaming of marches, and the man with the hatred of jews, would both want the same as hitler(that is the point of strongman ideologies anyways) and wouldn't disagree on key points, like, the JQ, the belief of race and how it interacts(i've read some of mein kampf, and understand their thoughts a bit). and i can tell you that they want the same thing even if they disagree on superficial things like anime, or what is exactly degeneracy >Christians themselves can have millions of different views on how to live a pious life this is where denominations come into play, baptists, mormons, catholics, believe very different but very specific things",,TPM,,,,,1511479714 150667379,150688664,2017-11-23 23:31:54,">>150683879 i would like to point out that you can't a purly profit motivated society, it certainly helps the ball to keep rolling, but you need a system of common morality to base this off or you'll see a short lived, but beautiful existance",,TPM,,,,,1511479914 150667379,150690327,2017-11-23 23:50:22,"I used to identify as libertarian but came to realize that won't fix problems in the US. When you realize how the banking cartels control everything and the Constitution is just an old piece of paper libertarianism is too take for what is needed We need a nationalist fascist solution to bring down the banks, the Intel agencies and their deep state cohorts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511481022 150667379,150690506,2017-11-23 23:52:41,">>150690327 fascism should only be interval at best",,TPM,1492683483279.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,,,1511481161 150947296,150947296,2017-11-26 02:36:29,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary ((((David Friedman)))) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1511647583577.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1511663789 150947296,150947357,2017-11-26 02:37:31,">and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. not libertarian",,Anonymous,,,,,1511663851 150947296,150947479,2017-11-26 02:39:17,"sorry, I put in the wrong discord link, anyone have the correct one?",,Anonymous,,,,,1511663957 150947296,150947572,2017-11-26 02:40:36,"Libertarianism only ever temporarily became right-wing because paleocons entered it in the 80s & 90s and tried to make it a respectable way to reverse the 1960s. Its going back to its degenerate liberal roots and you guys are going to have to make a choice. Come home White man",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1511664036 150964282,150964282,2017-11-26 07:33:28,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: DeBka RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary ((((David Friedman)))) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1484429674775[3].png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,GB,,1511681608 150964282,150964472,2017-11-26 07:36:27,">>150964282 If Discord invite doesn't work, try this: sXwfD5K",,Anonymous,,,,,1511681787 150970833,150970833,2017-11-26 09:18:06,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary ((((David Friedman)))) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1511699608059[1].png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,GB,,1511687886 151369755,151369755,2017-11-29 14:07:14,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,LibRightGen.png,DAo6xn5yvke1kVAw7+HlUQ==,,,1511964434 151369755,151369798,2017-11-29 14:07:39,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1511964459 151369755,151369895,2017-11-29 14:08:41,Do we not deserve the any dignity? can we not be trusted to support ourselves and raise our own children?,,Anonymous,The Family.png,BU6kI/EGJ2edHDzsLCe7qg==,,,1511964521 151369755,151369910,2017-11-29 14:08:51,,,Anonymous,FreeToDoRight.png,Okh0nz2vw2aJ49Le7dWQeg==,,,1511964531 151369755,151369940,2017-11-29 14:09:07,,,Anonymous,Dignity.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,,,1511964547 151369755,151370054,2017-11-29 14:10:06,bumps,,Asynd,Screenshot_1.png,GEhfIHK28WiXf1XCTLzNFg==,US,,1511964606 151369755,151370059,2017-11-29 14:10:11,"Man recoils from trouble - from suffering; and yet he is condemned by nature to the suffering of privation, if he does not take the trouble to work. He has to choose, then, between these two evils. What means can he adopt to avoid both? There remains now, and there will remain, only one way, which is, to enjoy the labor of others. Such a course of conduct prevents the trouble and the satisfaction from preserving their natural proportion, and causes all the trouble to become the lot of one set of persons, and all the satisfaction that of another. This is the origin of slavery and of plunder, whatever its form may be - whether that of wars, imposition, violence, restrictions, frauds, &c. - monstrous abuses, but consistent with the thought which has given them birth. Oppression should be detested and resisted - it can hardly be called absurd",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1511964611 151369755,151370131,2017-11-29 14:10:44,Gay,,Anonymous,,,US,,1511964644 151369755,151370147,2017-11-29 14:10:52,Those who reject property rights reject peaceful coexistence. Communists are one such blatant example of a menace that can only be dealt with through one way helicopter rides.,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1511964652 151369755,151370227,2017-11-29 14:11:40,bumping,,Asynd,1509899600796.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1511964700 151369755,151370278,2017-11-29 14:12:08,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1511964728 151369755,151370284,2017-11-29 14:12:11,">>151370131 Super gay",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1511964731 151369755,151370297,2017-11-29 14:12:15,bumping part 3,,Asynd,1509910889433.png,YVoiXvmruo5Ux2wCT2OeHQ==,US,,1511964735 151369755,151370330,2017-11-29 14:12:42,,,Anonymous,1511311668007.png,fCie9cNPI/8eT5mOgND2+Q==,CA,,1511964762 151369755,151370335,2017-11-29 14:12:45,bumpy,,Asynd,1509906925394.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,US,,1511964765 151369755,151370373,2017-11-29 14:13:04,"Abolish civil ""rights"", Income taxes, affirmative action and public schools. its poisioning our society.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1511964784 151369755,151370403,2017-11-29 14:13:22,bbuummpp,,Asynd,1509899477670.png,YVYe41zNT07hfgKQEznsYg==,US,,1511964802 151369755,151370470,2017-11-29 14:14:00,">>151370330 fuck off faggot, you should know better than anyone in your totalitarian leftist state that the government is pushing white genocide, race mixing and degeneracy.",,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1511964840 151369755,151370480,2017-11-29 14:14:07,bump part 69,,Asynd,LRG.png,odibbxgK7OBD7UFBScvERg==,US,,1511964847 151369755,151370505,2017-11-29 14:14:22,">>151370403 >ancaps respecting nazis What world are you living in? You guys fucking hate us.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1511964862 151369755,151370511,2017-11-29 14:14:26,"Leftists had their chance to be civil. They could have simply gone door-to-door and asked for our charity politely. Instead, they voted for men with guns to steal our stuff and redistribute it, and yet they have the audacity to scream at us for so-called privileged status. I've fucking had it. All leftists must die.",,Anonymous,encienden los rotores.jpg,tf4xE2AjVUsbWZ3ZK39ahQ==,,,1511964866 151369755,151370539,2017-11-29 14:14:42,">>151369755 Not a libertarian but bump! Questoins: How will libertarians deal with dysgenics: aka drug deals and prostitues have 7 kids and scientists remaining childless. How will Lib. Right deal with nihilism and decadance?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1511964882 151369755,151370554,2017-11-29 14:14:50,le bump xd,,Asynd,1509902297034.png,9FzuelM7b5rL6aYH5Fj2Ow==,US,,1511964890 151369755,151370609,2017-11-29 14:15:19,">>151370511 They only have one goal in the end, totalitarian control over every aspect of our lives.",,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1511964919 151369755,151370669,2017-11-29 14:15:46,>ywn have ancap gf,,Asynd,Ancap_Waifu_2.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,US,,1511964946 151369755,151370745,2017-11-29 14:16:24,,,Asynd,1509904698052.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,US,,1511964984 151369755,151370774,2017-11-29 14:16:38,"Sieg heil, faggots",,Anonymous,1511910107535.jpg,s9sb9Bio+8kWG/FAaumO4A==,CA,,1511964998 151369755,151370846,2017-11-29 14:17:15,">>151370609 Charity is the sheep's skin of the eternal wolf. Physical removal and slaughter are the only answers I see.",,Anonymous,DNxiSudVoAAwpUY.jpg,UYNq/dEyyNfmRv12ngH0AQ==,,,1511965035 151369755,151370887,2017-11-29 14:17:46,">>151370539 By not giving them a safety net to rely on they would sufer the ultimate consequences of their actions. It is quite clear that the introduction of a libertarian social order would result in the bottom feeders and unproductive scum of society dying off or living in poverty. They are a product of democracy and cannot survive without it.",,Anonymous,1506915101127.jpg,BDbiWD5ldzFrEP1CEfnKWg==,,,1511965066 151369755,151370903,2017-11-29 14:17:54,hoppe for world emperor,,Asynd,CVQXxOOU4AAEO-z.jpg,QpZepkS0EUR4fEdd/5JrmQ==,US,,1511965074 151369755,151371065,2017-11-29 14:19:23,">>151370774 White capitalists will build the ethnostate, socialists will be excluded and left to the niggers and muslim hordes. Join us while you still can.",,Anonymous,White_Nation.jpg,IZH5oh46vH/LkvmhKwEkPw==,,,1511965163 151369755,151371103,2017-11-29 14:19:50,,,Asynd,sdfsdf.png,cg7JMLBOAgBxnycA+Kb0DA==,US,,1511965190 151369755,151371161,2017-11-29 14:20:24,">>151370505 I really respect your cultural values, your public policy however will be the death of our race.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511965224 151369755,151371168,2017-11-29 14:20:24,,,Asynd,1509898303833.png,373xazuxFO57zRlWDS2mrQ==,US,,1511965224 151369755,151371189,2017-11-29 14:20:35,">>151370330 >white genocide Can't genocide a people with a State >Globalism Economic integration is fine, cultural integration is impossible. People, if not forced to, will not sacrifice their culture for diversity >jews Jews have no power if they have no State they can control. Likewise, only in a truly free society can people tell whoever they want to fuck off their land, to fuck off their land. >mcslavery You mean a reduction in the artificial shortage of labor and job opportunity? >atomization So people, if left to their own devices, do not congregate? How did civilization ever form if this was the case? It is in people's best interests to engage in mutual exchange and society >netflix and porn So? >purity You mean, what the current wielder of State power views as ""purity""? >national strength For all who buy into the scheme, perhaps. Fuck everyone who disagrees right? >3d waifus We've got waifus too m8 >militarism Right, because mass death for the purpose of appeasing some utilitarian cucks in their towers sure is something people want to engage in. If you want militarism, then engage in sport- which by the way, is entirely allowed to flourish however people want in ancapistan, but not in natsocistan >mixed markets You mean Communism Lite? Economic restrictions are utilitarian by nature, and they only exist because people believe they know better than others who they should use their time, energy, and money >traditionalism You mean, whatever tradition is supported by the State? Ancapistan would have traditionalism inherently, because that is how people naturally order themselves. What is familiar, is what is.",,Anonymous,1511869587684.jpg,R1YOzWehU2nudGvtykBxyw==,,,1511965235 151369755,151371226,2017-11-29 14:20:58,">>151371189 Can't genocide without* a State",,Anonymous,,,,,1511965258 151369755,151371254,2017-11-29 14:21:13,>>151371168,,Anonymous,Crush.png,HQl3OeUH7jJVktLD9nJrwA==,,,1511965273 151369755,151371508,2017-11-29 14:23:48,">>151370669 Speak for yourself",,Anonymous,1502176416407.jpg,UhuShD+g2wVq8hGKWo+lrw==,,,1511965428 151369755,151371544,2017-11-29 14:24:14,">>151369755 When will you grow up and settle around pic related? We need 99% free markets, forced deportations of all illegals immigrants, strong borders, good values, very little EPA (just enough to not have bad pollution), free trade (don’t conflate one sided trade with free trade), a somewhat strong military, and a low flat tax rate.",,Anonymous,6028AD27-EF80-479A-AF25-F946F16B2F51.jpg,J6HKd5J7fsSELP5PvXgjZw==,US,,1511965454 151369755,151371824,2017-11-29 14:27:12,">>151370131 Look at it",,Anonymous,smugancapgirl.png,zx0RdrbbNLhdb0I44MOEkA==,US,,1511965632 151369755,151371848,2017-11-29 14:27:23,">>151371544 >far-right is retarded gtfo faggot, you'll learn the hard way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511965643 151369755,151371947,2017-11-29 14:28:22,">>151370330 Do you even read the thread before you post or are you just automatically posting this dumbshit on any thread that mentions libertarianism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511965702 151369755,151372012,2017-11-29 14:29:10,,,Anonymous,1508973574641.png,yL3Fwp6Qi5lsEAFAYleWKw==,,,1511965750 151369755,151372014,2017-11-29 14:29:10,"America is fucked. The left won. We need to start a new country. On another note i think open boarders are fine if there is no welfare state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511965750 151369755,151372065,2017-11-29 14:29:44,">>151371848 >factories will regulate their own pollution People actually believe this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511965784 151369755,151372171,2017-11-29 14:30:44,">>151370505 We hate you because a lot of you are fucking cultists, and would line us up against the wall as quick as the communists. We do have common goals, and if we could work together on them it would help both of us. example image of the crap you guys put out - this doesn't say shit, it just makes grand claims that Fasicsm is the Truth and above all.",,Anonymous,fascismvsleftright.png,WhiT20G3pCDj1S9MxgOSPA==,US,,1511965844 151369755,151372200,2017-11-29 14:30:58,">>151372014 Open borders makes no sense under total privatization, if you own a property you're gonna let everyone in indiscriminately? fuck no, you let in the goods and keep out the bads.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511965858 151369755,151372229,2017-11-29 14:31:12,">>151372014 How long have you been in a coma, anon?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511965872 151369755,151372380,2017-11-29 14:32:47,>>151372065,,Anonymous,unknown.png,x2anRVkEVJO9IO4drJFtcw==,,,1511965967 151369755,151372397,2017-11-29 14:32:54,">>151370669 Funny enough more LRG chads have ancap girlfriends than neetsocs have neetsoc girlfriends We will outbreed the socialist/fascist menace. .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511965974 151369755,151372518,2017-11-29 14:34:01,">>151370887 We will bring it back",,Anonymous,1.jpg,qYNBnV+HoKPIKecH2dP/8Q==,US,,1511966041 151369755,151372628,2017-11-29 14:35:03,">>151371103 >implying reactionary violence isn't the appropriate response to leftist and state aggression",,Anonymous,mcveighdisappointed.jpg,Lx/PkM2xPE9hUKX9pEyC5A==,US,,1511966103 151369755,151372679,2017-11-29 14:35:34,,,Anonymous,LRG.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1511966134 151369755,151372864,2017-11-29 14:37:25,">>151372014 >open borders fine You dont have a country if you have open borders, and open borders implies state property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511966245 151369755,151372914,2017-11-29 14:37:57,">>151372628 the difference is that we're not shitheads",,Anonymous,Eagle.png,yrHf5uXPnkPP+29fTZTlxA==,,,1511966277 151369755,151373693,2017-11-29 14:45:40,">:D:DDD:DDDDD MARKETS:DD",,TPM,1496688253348.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,,,1511966740 151369755,151373826,2017-11-29 14:46:48,Reminder your way was tried in the US with the Articles of Confederation and failed.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1511966808 151369755,151374123,2017-11-29 14:49:31,">>151373826 >Wrong if it wasn't for the war which put in debt if it wasn't for a certain founding father with (((scottish banking))) connects, that lead a band of troops over to the white house during the discussion for taxation maybe it wouldnt've been a faliure",,TPM,,,,,1511966971 151369755,151374124,2017-11-29 14:49:31,">>151369895 >can we not be trusted clearly not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511966971 151369755,151374418,2017-11-29 14:52:26,">>151374123 >Libertarian societies are somehow immune to wars ever happening >what was Shay's rebellion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511967146 151369755,151374528,2017-11-29 14:53:30,,,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,,,1511967210 151369755,151374778,2017-11-29 14:55:43,">>151374418 you know that its normal for war to waged amongst states and peoples right? and that its everyone's duty to rebel against an unjust government? plenty of interstate wars happened after the constitution was formed until the civil war put an end to all that",,TPM,,,,,1511967343 151369755,151375026,2017-11-29 14:58:11,"What is /lrg/s opinion on Curt Doolittle?? >>151373826 Would have been fixed with the New Jersey plan",,Anonymous,1511895789718.jpg,6XFAbtncFaroGXefMiOVRg==,US,,1511967491 151369755,151375232,2017-11-29 15:00:29,">>151375026 Im not well researched on him but he seems alright. wish he wasn't a classical libtard. he's kinda inbetween libertarian and neoreaction afaik",,Anonymous,,,,,1511967629 151369755,151375688,2017-11-29 15:04:54,">>151373826 Democracy is a failure",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511967894 151369755,151376451,2017-11-29 15:12:19,,,Anonymous,1504318811780.png,W8TmawrwILOiINa5QBthFA==,,,1511968339 151369755,151377353,2017-11-29 15:20:08,">>151371065 >White capitalists will build the ethnostate >be you >create white ethno state with capitalism >inequality created over time due to the differences in IQ and general capability (inb4 everyone is equal bullshit) >inequality rises, people become upset >to keep them in check, either use force/military state or social reforms >create some gibs me dats for the people to be silenced (which was the socialism in NatSoc all about) >state keeps running, people get fed propaganda to like paying higher taxes because it is needed to keep the state alive and with it, it's people/race >You now have National Socialism People still don't realize that some form of welfare state (not marxist socialism) is needed to keep the masses silenced/happy/dependent on the state. That's just how humans work, at least for the less capable with below average IQ. The welfare state is a form of power and control which every leader needs if he doesn't want full blown tyranny.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511968808 151369755,151377417,2017-11-29 15:20:47,"reminder that we all need to join politics and bring our ideas to light, we can't sit in front of the computer forever",,TPM,PapaHoppe.png,NBN4oraH3WKG5FowMD/Iaw==,,,1511968847 151369755,151377790,2017-11-29 15:24:08,">>151377353 >Implying we would pratice taxation in the first place our ideas are so good that people will fund our city government by charity, we wouldn't need the formation of the state, only good vetting and community are needed if we treat em bad they will leave somewhere else and we lose money and donations, that is how it goes.",,TPM,1510357103332.jpg,c0ZWBj6TUQPZkGYfBk2FVA==,,,1511969048 151369755,151378234,2017-11-29 15:27:52,">>151377790 On a scale on 1-10, how realistic do you actually think that this happening considering general human nature and the capabilities of the average masses? I mean I'm all onboard with your ideas, that are all great for people who are able to take care of themselves and practice self-responsibility. But I just can't see that working for the general population, most are simply not capable enough, either by intellect or motivation or other means that might fit, to keep such a system alive with some form of incentive, either force, propaganda or dependency. I can see it working if you literally genocide everyone with an IQ below 120 though. If not, then this nice construct is just too unrealistic to be implemented.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511969272 151369755,151379278,2017-11-29 15:36:44,">>151377353 Get a load of Mr.Equality over here.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511969804 151369755,151379576,2017-11-29 15:39:08,">>151379278 >Mr.Equality >t. Mr. no reading comprehension",,Anonymous,1494060400551.jpg,eCMuTfbrojjpthS8nPNnhQ==,DE,,1511969948 151369755,151379823,2017-11-29 15:41:06,">>151378234 to answer your question, society would look different from what it is today. you must know that our kind consider the city to the highest,sustainable form of governance that should be achieved, not that we would be an insular society of only one city, but that our society would be focused on the cities, and any form of governance would be only in the cities(and municipally owned properties outside of the city limits, like roads, airports, wells, lakes, rivers, etc). the point is that because any city by us would be vetted from the get go; for white, christian, hardworking, family oriented people. that type of person would actively contribute to society,",,TPM,,,,,1511970066 151369755,151379837,2017-11-29 15:41:13,">>151378234 People should be allowed to make their own mistakes and then learn from it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511970073 151369755,151380322,2017-11-29 15:44:43,">>151379576 Im just having fun with you m8, the truth is a libertarian social order wouldn't even have a central authority capable of taxing a populus and redistributing their wealth. You're also implying I give a shit about the poor, let them turn to crime, and when they do we'll kill them. its the ultimate eugenics system.",,Anonymous,aoghauigharghaoig.png,n/vBA5aYYCkkjTOb7j+utg==,,,1511970283 151369755,151380429,2017-11-29 15:45:36,">>151372171 is that for fucking ants?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511970336 151369755,151380452,2017-11-29 15:45:49,">>151372171 Yup thats im. I wouldnt pay Ironmarch anytime, they are the biggest waste of space autistic fucks there are and im a Natsoc. I mean you are talking about people who literally think Charles Manson was a spiritual successor of Hitler.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511970349 151369755,151380595,2017-11-29 15:46:56,">>151379823 I already get what your ideas are about, hence I wrote that I would be on board with this. But my problem is still implementation. How the hell will you get that running/working in the first place and once achieved, how will you keep this system alive when capitalism might lead to degeneracy, apathy, hedonism etc... And I'm really talking long term here, not necessarily similar to Hitlers 1000 year Reich, but 200-250 years at least. For me it looks like this: Give people too much freedom and people will ultimately fuck everything up. How then is this whole society be kept alive in realistic means after implementation without it dying on itself after 50-100 years due to people becoming too settled, too safe, too fed, drifting into nihilism and apathy.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511970416 151369755,151381845,2017-11-29 15:56:12,">>151380595 Laissez Faire is a better term than freedom, Freedom implies all sorts of nonsense. I dont belive in freedom of speech or your right to do heroin and be accepted by society. What I want is for people to face the consiquences of their actions, if you're a fag or a tranny you dont have kids and die when you're too old to work because you have no family to help you, if you do drugs you loose your money and dont get any help. For me it looks like every attempt the state takes to ""help' its people really just promotes the breeding of lesser peoples",,Anonymous,,,,,1511970972 151369755,151383139,2017-11-29 16:06:08,">>151369755 Grow up Faggots Nap can't work with Jews or niggers. If you have an ethnostate with left libertarianism you need it to be strong enough to avoid foreign media and military. Call it whatever you want at the end you end up with natsoc/natcap the name is ironic. Unser Volk Uber alles",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511971568 151369755,151383465,2017-11-29 16:08:31,">>151383139 Duh, niggers cant play nice. when they act up youre supposed to beat them. And yes free association means excluding everyone you dont like.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511971711 151369755,151384444,2017-11-29 16:15:20,,,Anonymous,Hoppe.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,,,1511972120 151369755,151384916,2017-11-29 16:19:22,"I think my specific, niche variant of the libertarian ideology varies slightly from the /lrg/ mean, but I'm not entirely certain. I'll outline what I believe the differences are >don't support helicoptering nonviolent leftists - NAP VIOLATION >don't support the existence of borders - requires a state - requires taxes - NAP VIOLATION My vision of utopian free society is a world of supercities in the classic ancap style of total control by megacorporations and jews and streets overflowing with absolute hedonism, degeneracy, consumerism and abject poverty, and a countryside full of isolated clans of traditional conservative property owners in communal contracts side by side with mass hippie/left-libertarian type communes in group-ownership contracts, both partially self-sufficient, the only thing barely preventing these three or more radically different types of societal factions from rapidly destroying each other in apocalyptic civil war and conquest due to extreme situational and ideological disputes being networks of private court systems and militias and a nearly universal, pedantically purist devotion to and respect for the NAP. I really don't at all see the removal of the state likely to result in immediate ownership of literally all land property by conservatives, the only situation that would permit helicoptering, rather than normal physical removal, of leftists, without an NAP violation.",,Anonymous,2000px-Gadsden_flag.svg.png,4kGEWlb4IMNCbLLt7z2Q0w==,,,1511972362 151369755,151385551,2017-11-29 16:24:20,">>151369755 Left-leaning Independent here. You guys are cool, though. I heavily supported Ron Paul and Gary Johnson in 12', but voted for Sanders and Trump in 16'. I still fall in line with a lot of what Sanders' economic views are, but are staunchly libertarian when it comes to everything else, all while rejecting the anti-white cultural Marxism we see nowadays from the left. Therefore, my question is, are there any good red-pilling videos out there for when it comes to economics?",,Anonymous,pol.png,h3HNUz68l0P0kZL8AWoT7w==,,,1511972660 151369755,151385778,2017-11-29 16:26:12,">>151385551 Maybe, I don't know them. But if you want a book, maybe Hazlitt's Economics in one Lesson",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1511972772 151369755,151386072,2017-11-29 16:28:29,">>151380595 > But my problem is still implementation. How the hell will you get that running/working in the first place you can get settlers to settle a town in a small area, build a council based, or mayoral based, township, by wanting to help in the first place, settlers would pay and fund construction of municipal amenities, key part is to actively ask for donations, like those red cross charity buckets even > how will you keep this system alive when capitalism might lead to degeneracy, apathy, hedonism etc... because you only looking at the materialistic side of capitalism, it would be stressed among the community to be religious, not zealots mind you, but people of strong moral integrity. tha tis the only defense really. aside from that secret societies and other interlopers with subversive tendencies would NOT be allowed, they are the pushers of it, and just so happens to always be jewish, so we would almost effectively banning jews, assuming, we can get out of the US for settlement, and not be bound by federal laws. > And I'm really talking long term here, not necessarily similar to Hitlers 1000 year Reich, but 200-250 years at least. if we get the city council we can expect a good 300-400 year run should political climate stay stable. if we can get a feudalistic system in place(barring serfdom and debtors prison, the whole owning others thing) that then we get, perhaps a good 6 or 800 years.",,TPM,,,,,1511972909 151369755,151386204,2017-11-29 16:29:51,">>151385778 Exactly what I'm looking for, thanks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511972991 151369755,151386568,2017-11-29 16:33:16,"greatest ally /lrg/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQiDydh-eo",,Anonymous,snake-menefrego.jpg,2S90fYmJ+5xd4w+1umxaIw==,,,1511973196 151369755,151386832,2017-11-29 16:35:35,">>151386072 I tell you what I see in all of this: You still would have to do the same thing needed for getting NatSoc running again: re-education of the people to teach them what is right and just. Only through the correct education, teaching them that moral values together with the relevant philosophical ideas. You basically have to teach them high levels of self-responsibility in order to keep the system alive and make it strong. Either way, people will have to be educated to not be mindless consumers, taking responsibility for their own action and that of their family (father for children). And only when the people have the right thoughts in their head will the system be kept alive.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511973335 151369755,151387070,2017-11-29 16:37:49,cozy,,Anonymous,23916032_1510669875688125_542067979054467021_n.jpg,+yUQtiPpGVl9NGIVlR+ErQ==,US,,1511973469 151369755,151387218,2017-11-29 16:39:05,">>151369755 >tfw libertine degenerate and no one can stop me",,Anonymous,1465898599701.jpg,m0QuowgioMRy+AEhar71Jw==,,,1511973545 151369755,151387322,2017-11-29 16:40:08,">>151387218 No one wants to stop you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511973608 151369755,151387323,2017-11-29 16:40:08,>>151387218,,Anonymous,hoppecopter.jpg,UCicXYQEqygMmKbmzMpngQ==,,,1511973608 151369755,151387777,2017-11-29 16:44:16,">>151386832 exactly, i would imagine that the municipal state would work very close to the church, most of the schooling would be done though them, and most charities would be though a church, like now. the benefit is that with that strict moral code, people would be much less corrupt, and society would be maintained long after the first settlers die off. the government not having the power to tax would have to compete with private and church schools, making their facilities top notch to compensate, attracting more donations",,TPM,1492548195893.png,siCy/G146TpUAgpJiqEvCg==,,,1511973856 151369755,151387961,2017-11-29 16:45:57,We need more anime.,,Anonymous,1511906037663.png,r0O4fmJ0tKzntAHiwLtOfw==,,,1511973957 151369755,151388051,2017-11-29 16:46:44,>>151387961,,Anonymous,9tfh46vqn72sbzfuq4zc_400x400[1].png,DLYnyy5uRyirfGukP1wCrA==,,,1511974004 151369755,151388075,2017-11-29 16:47:03,">>151387777 checked",,Anonymous,1386498971002.jpg,pl4x1Ot/NfqAlFP04hFTug==,US,,1511974023 151369755,151388191,2017-11-29 16:48:00,">>151387777 checked >the municipal state would work very close to the church, most of the schooling would be done though them As a physicist I would fear that in this scenario way too less focus would be given to science (actual science, not gender studies). How would that be managed?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511974080 151369755,151388218,2017-11-29 16:48:18,>>151387777,,TPM,1492855701192.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,,,1511974098 151369755,151388329,2017-11-29 16:49:15,>>151387961,,Anonymous,ancap fie.png,Q2cxQbiZjGJTsehfHD9lFQ==,,,1511974155 151369755,151388372,2017-11-29 16:49:41,">>151388051 looks like sessions",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511974181 151369755,151388773,2017-11-29 16:53:07,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1486775946992.jpg,c61iCAEgd3wM0GjTB/MgYw==,NL,,1511974387 151369755,151388881,2017-11-29 16:54:06,">>151369755 Libertarianism is a joke",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1511974446 151369755,151389060,2017-11-29 16:55:32,">>151377353 But living standards will dramatically increase for the stupid and poor as well Just not as fast",,Anonymous,,,,,1511974532 151369755,151389175,2017-11-29 16:56:28,">>151388881 >wanting to be a poor slave Poland is a joke",,Anonymous,,,,,1511974588 151369755,151389338,2017-11-29 16:57:42,">>151369755 >PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS But what about the non-aggression principle?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1511974662 151369755,151389386,2017-11-29 16:58:03,">>151388881 stronk gulagments, friend",,Anonymous,1486484163342.jpg,hmj3PdC6ZzJFQzz7SCND9g==,US,,1511974683 151369755,151389474,2017-11-29 16:58:47,">>151385551 Watch mises.org videos Especially tom woods and tom dilorenzo Redpilled the shit out of me Especially the monopoly ones and robber baron ones",,Anonymous,,,,,1511974727 151369755,151389514,2017-11-29 16:59:07,">>151389338 Commies aren't people",,Anonymous,,,,,1511974747 151369755,151389529,2017-11-29 16:59:14,">>151388773 >statist collectivism >right",,Anonymous,1511757568872.png,5/mfJ+hQdeTupeBZqoLmig==,US,,1511974754 151369755,151389543,2017-11-29 16:59:23,">>151389175 you would not survive a minute in your utopia, kiddo but dont worry u dont stay a 15 year old forever.",,Anonymous,1504239020892.jpg,QCAxVbQAtMJCVlxBMjQ2bQ==,PL,,1511974763 151369755,151389699,2017-11-29 17:00:26,">>151389060 This is irrelevant however. Looking at all the stats from the US and literally everywhere else (once you have lurked /pol/ for more than 2 years), you'll see that what is important is not absolute living standards but relative living standards. Or to dumb it down completely: The masses only able to afford one Iphone will become unsatisfied and start civil unrest against the people who can buy 1000-100,000 Iphones. This is also seen in crime stats in the US. Poverty does not raise crime states, only relative poverty, i.e. people in your neighborhood with much higher living standards. Also: Why would this be the case for the stupid and poor when they are the ones barely able to take care of themselves? There is no welfare state to take care of the lesser capable.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511974826 151369755,151389720,2017-11-29 17:00:34,">>151385551 Here's a playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhtAuCnyFEf-5HqxWz6hTn-ZT_hc5WK9F",,Anonymous,1511829217622.png,6VNZGceY1Mb/Z13D9jOWaw==,US,,1511974834 151369755,151389771,2017-11-29 17:00:56,">>151377417 I have countless incredible ideas for red piling infographics but you faggots are too lazy to work with me on them 6 months ago I tried working with someone on here but he fucked off",,Anonymous,,,,,1511974856 151369755,151389906,2017-11-29 17:01:55,">>151384444 The top should say i hate democrats",,Anonymous,,,,,1511974915 151369755,151390039,2017-11-29 17:03:02,">>151389699 What a retard The current us is nothing close to a free market People are raging because their actual living standards are going down.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511974982 151369755,151390074,2017-11-29 17:03:14,">>151389543 >strawman Don't worry, you won't stay 15 forever either. Hell, maybe next time you will make an argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511974994 151369755,151390093,2017-11-29 17:03:24,">>151389543 >doesn't understand what a utopia is >doesn't understand why that meme is called strawmanball",,Anonymous,1511211762593.png,lRN4ncblMavgpVcUf3lIyQ==,US,,1511975004 151369755,151390164,2017-11-29 17:03:58,">>151389543 >I get my views of ancap from incredibly retarded strawman images Just fucking kill yourself holy shit you people are dumb as rocks",,Anonymous,,,,,1511975038 151369755,151390357,2017-11-29 17:05:38,">>151390039 Thanks for going for ad hominem without explaining shit and ignoring questions. You are truly an enrichment to the thread.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511975138 151369755,151390362,2017-11-29 17:05:39,>>151369755,,Anonymous,97cd81708a72026121bb9e5f535fb667ec09edd655b3932132fa9dfd3869b63a.jpg,hNf2xNwXZ9bjnGWUhAxmow==,,,1511975139 151369755,151390492,2017-11-29 17:06:43,">>151390074 >>151390093 >>151390164 >uh strawman quitea accurate in most cases",,Anonymous,1504238470259.jpg,0zLnQwX6GwR0DuoxmcTX9g==,PL,,1511975203 151369755,151390631,2017-11-29 17:07:55,">>151390492 >quitea accurate in most cases Wrong. And it doesn't really refute libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511975275 151369755,151390655,2017-11-29 17:08:04,">>151385551 here is one from molymemes that is pretty good on the subject of economic misconseptions and unintended consequences https://youtu.be/76yieNdfgIs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511975284 151369755,151390670,2017-11-29 17:08:14,">>151390357 But I did explain shit Living standards are going down in the USA. They would go up for the poor and stood in a free market so your entire argument is invalid",,Anonymous,,,,,1511975294 151369755,151390706,2017-11-29 17:08:32,Libertarians are absolutely deluded.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1511975312 151369755,151390720,2017-11-29 17:08:38,,,Anonymous,arab ancap.png,mhxm6ScRET8Mtm4tAinaJA==,,,1511975318 151369755,151390787,2017-11-29 17:09:06,">>151390492 Why are poles so fucking stupid and brainwashed?",,Anonymous,,,,,1511975346 151369755,151390835,2017-11-29 17:09:28,">>151390706 Great argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1511975368 151369755,151390881,2017-11-29 17:09:53,">>151390655 >misconceptions***",,Anonymous,1510345140272.png,seLntIUGwscXq1Ub5RQshQ==,US,,1511975393 151369755,151390886,2017-11-29 17:09:56,">>151390787 not only poles, whole of europe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511975396 151369755,151391028,2017-11-29 17:11:14,">>151390670 You are still ignoring the question(s) in that post and you are still explaining shit. You are simply stating >hurr living standards will go up without giving any explanation, as if it is some god given imperative that automatically happens. Given the amount of shitposts you create after entering the thread I doubt you are even able to explain that...",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511975474 151369755,151391102,2017-11-29 17:11:54,">>151390631 >>151390787 >>151390886 yellow snek has no future new force is awakening",,Anonymous,1511633075565.png,6CfBh2Z3OlmMF9W54qFxvw==,PL,,1511975514 151369755,151391151,2017-11-29 17:12:19,">>151389529 >implying i ever implied i was rightwing",,Anonymous,IMG_0524.jpg,mKi1rf4kHYBKIe14VKBXWg==,NL,,1511975539 151369755,151391504,2017-11-29 17:15:26,">>151372679 (You) obviously have good taste fellow hoppean",,Anonymous,1508935650372.jpg,5Hp2VrNxw2xdfSq9s3zjWA==,US,,1511975726 151369755,151391571,2017-11-29 17:16:03,">>151391028 I'm driving and on my phone so it's hard to reply As economic production increases prices decade as wages rise This can only happen with a free market in money though",,Anonymous,,,,,1511975763 151369755,151391679,2017-11-29 17:16:59,">>151390720 >Middle East >Anarcho-capitalist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511975819 151369755,151391741,2017-11-29 17:17:32,">>151391571 >I'm driving and on my phone so it's hard to reply You will be purged for violating the NAP by hitting someone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511975852 151369755,151391958,2017-11-29 17:19:24,">>151391102 just wait until the snake grows its wings and washes your western democratic states away.",,Anonymous,Fahne d Heiligen Roemischen Reichs-farbe.jpg,4yedftUJ/zR1Rrm91wNcPA==,,,1511975964 151369755,151392315,2017-11-29 17:22:11,">>151391571 >I'm driving and on my phone so it's hard to reply >151391741 You will be purged for violating the NAP by hitting someone. I agree with this guy. I hope you die without endangering another white person or better yet, drive into a sedan full of niggers.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511976131 151369755,151392383,2017-11-29 17:22:40,">>151369755 Haha, don't you know that despite literally every political and controlled opposition party following the same globalist, anti-white narrative we need a strong and powerful state to prevent degeneracy?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1511976160 151369755,151392791,2017-11-29 17:26:02,">>151385551 another https://youtu.be/QNHjl6HkqAw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511976362 151369755,151393370,2017-11-29 17:30:56,">>151392383 >being so cucked that you cry loudly for the exact institutions (((they))) manipulate to (((their))) own ends.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511976656 151369755,151393376,2017-11-29 17:30:59,">>151386568 My bro, how you doing. Glad to see you stopping by.",,Anonymous,images.jpg,CM+RY8ehh/HP/ZJEl9Sl7Q==,,,1511976659 151369755,151393482,2017-11-29 17:32:01,">>151389771 just make em and post, why do you need someone to hold your hand?",,TPM,,,,,1511976721 151369755,151393672,2017-11-29 17:33:38,">>151393376 hi was looking the past days for an /lrg/ thread since they are the only reason to come here gladly I've found one today",,Anonymous,flat chests.jpg,TtnbAtLofineVaF3fS1tXQ==,,,1511976818 151369755,151394036,2017-11-29 17:36:39,">>151388191 corporate interests and private drive. for one, companies drive research forward a ton. two, bill gates invented the computer in his garage there is already a drive to go to space among the normal populace, someone just needs to preach the message however, more people need to that, not the government the corporate interest is immense aswell, the first company to get to the stars gets its riches",,TPM,,,,,1511976999 151369755,151394250,2017-11-29 17:38:26,">>151393370 the current state of european right wing movements and (((patriots)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1511977106 151369755,151394579,2017-11-29 17:41:15,">>151393672 Man I need you to join our discord, its like the core crew having a threadat all times.",,Anonymous,Sebastos.png,klHvH5Ox4TGGznD/mdQF0A==,,,1511977275 151369755,151394896,2017-11-29 17:44:09,">>151394579 S E B A S T O S",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1511977449 151369755,151395005,2017-11-29 17:45:01,">>151394579 fucking leftists",,TPM,,,,,1511977501 151369755,151395050,2017-11-29 17:45:22,">>151394579 I'll think of it. But have some things distracting me at the moment.",,Anonymous,normie ancap.png,qVuUnuV1qUum9uutqmIljg==,,,1511977522 151369755,151396318,2017-11-29 17:55:29,">>151369895 >>151369910 >>151369940 I like these, I made it into one image",,Anonymous,Freedom to do right.png,tDlWenhjIKGW7AFzxy194g==,US,,1511978129 151369755,151396540,2017-11-29 17:56:58,posting oc memes,,TPM,You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Liberty.jpg,8YssLLfN+SCgyLYrS+s15g==,,,1511978218 151369755,151396847,2017-11-29 17:59:21,">>151393482 Because in lazy as fuck",,Anonymous,,,,,1511978361 151369755,151397073,2017-11-29 18:01:13,">>151370669 >Bulge YEEEESSS",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1511978473 151369755,151397081,2017-11-29 18:01:18,">>151391151 I'll take this as another concession that fascism and other third-position ideologies aren't right-wing. Thank you.",,Anonymous,fence-sitter.jpg,HTDAvBypOlGI37RZCSnX2A==,,,1511978478 151369755,151397608,2017-11-29 18:05:31,">>151397081 Jose is not so wrong, you know",,Anonymous,evola.jpg,dzCOB9wBopjxb9Hsuz4LOA==,,,1511978731 151645697,151645697,2017-12-01 16:34:14,"Motto of the day: Remember to separate the colours. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things libertarian - private system of government, natural law, laissez-faire economy, and sovereignity, as well as organisation, tactics, and long-term strategy. We encourage debate, so long as all parties recognise that property norms are inherent in each civil exchange between multiple consenting individuals. Communists explicitly reject property norms and as such will not be respected. Discord server: /sXwfD5K Pastebin link: pastebin.com/0rkTentN",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General - DAY OF THE LAUNDRY,Anonymous,cantwell phone in prison.png,ipqHzcaqGNuSwmu5FZFWbg==,SK,,1512146054 151645697,151645795,2017-12-01 16:35:14,fIRST FOR LOLI LOVING!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512146114 151645697,151645803,2017-12-01 16:35:18,">>151645697 Frequent misconceptions: >What is the libertarian stance on open borders? A full privatisation of all property implies the owners' full right of exlusion or inclusion to their property only, being responsible for the accomodation, as well as legally for the good behaviour of their invitees, which automatically rules out inviting jihadis and other savages with no concepts of property norms into civilised lands in large numbers. As long as a state exists, however, closed borders (forced exclusion) are preferrable to open borders (forced integration), if for no other reason than there being fewer people within the reach of a State to be expropriated by it. >Is capitalism Jewish/degenerate? Capitalism is the natural order of things, most commonly used in regard to the economy. It is the lack of restrictions on grounds other than natural law, which must be equally appliable to everyone. Deviation from this model ultimately means higher time preference rates among people, meaning immediate satisfaction is preferred over long-term investment, which in turn leads to less interest in production and more interest in leisure activities, meaning general poverty. This goes to show that socialism, not capitalism, works best for the Jewish interest of turning the gentiles into hedonistic cattle. >Who would build the roads? Scarcity of space implies the need for people and goods to move from point A to point B. Generally, this means that roads must be established, as land transport remains one of the most heavily used modes of transportation. There is a market for roads in any society, the state just holds a monopoly over it. >What is the libertarian position on usury? The main problem with interest loan provision is the historical monopoly the highly tribalistic Jewish communities have held over it, often due to state intervention (which was comparatively extremely rare in those times).",,Anonymous,go fuck yourself outside of my property.jpg,TpL8a3uBAzDFfYYfqrVeEg==,SK,,1512146118 151645697,151645905,2017-12-01 16:36:05,Howdy niggers,,Anonymous,1491227873593.png,FkpPk097AlAih+aRADzoKg==,,,1512146165 151645697,151645914,2017-12-01 16:36:11,Nomad bumping for the European Discord VC.,,Anonymous,Farvahar Gold.png,GDczVlUUGM/vqByw5sYBzA==,,,1512146171 151645697,151645992,2017-12-01 16:36:52,First for AnCap Waifu,,Anonymous,Ancap_Waifu.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1512146212 151645697,151645998,2017-12-01 16:36:55,reminder that anarcho-capitalism isn't actual anarchism,,Anonymous,,,,,1512146215 151645697,151646044,2017-12-01 16:37:19,"Recommended reading: BOOKS >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Theory of Socialism and Capitalism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant ARTICLES >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property by Llewellyn Rockwell - mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property >A Realistic Libertarianism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ >For A New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Nations by Consent by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Race! That Murray Book by Murray Rothbard - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1512146239 151645697,151646141,2017-12-01 16:38:13,"No wonder the politicians of the nineteenth century look upon society as an artificial production of the legislator’s genius. This idea, the result of a classical education, has taken possession of all the thinkers and great writers of our country. To all these persons, the relations between mankind and the legislator appear to be the same as those that exist between the clay and the potter. Moreover, if they have consented to recognize in the heart of man a capability of action, and in his intellect a faculty of discernment, they have looked upon this gift of God as a fatal one, and thought that mankind, under these two impulses, tended fatally toward ruin. They have taken it for granted that if abandoned to their own inclinations, men would only occupy themselves with religion to arrive at atheism, with instruction to come to ignorance, and with labor and exchange to be extinguished in misery. Happily, according to these writers, there are some men, termed governors and legislators, upon whom Heaven has bestowed opposite tendencies, not for their own sake only, but for the sake of the rest of the world. Whilst mankind tends to evil, they incline to good; whilst mankind is advancing toward darkness, they are aspiring to enlightenment; whilst mankind is drawn toward vice, they are attracted by virtue. And, this granted, they demand the assistance of force, by means of which they are to substitute their own tendencies for those of the human race.",,Anonymous,descriptive_polylogism.jpg,8XTCYSi5ZfI0jjzIXtogLw==,GB,,1512146293 151645697,151646152,2017-12-01 16:38:20,"""people are dumb and shouldn't be allowed to make decisions, so we should take a small number of those people and have them rule over everyone.""",,Anonymous,image.jpg,7hbuAsry5xLyS0d4anXC0A==,,,1512146300 151645697,151646160,2017-12-01 16:38:25,"Media: PODCASTS/VIDEOS >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods Show >radicalagenda.com - Radical Agenda / Letters from a Charlottesville Jail / Cantwell & Kessler / LIVE from Seg! (Christopher Cantwell) >youtube.com/stefbot - Steben Bolynu :DD >youtube.com/channel/UCR7pD2JAMKUx4LH93YWjaXw - morrakiu.com - Morrakiu >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus ARTICLES >mises.org - Mises Institute >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society",,Anonymous,lrg they have to be removed.png,bIDcgm8bWRNUv8EN7ypOkQ==,SK,,1512146305 151645697,151646270,2017-12-01 16:39:14,"Videos/podcasts: >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >For a New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc >Radical Agenda by Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >The War on Terror by Augustus Sol Invictus - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U >The Leftist Invasion of Libertarianism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHv9NyeS3s0 >Attempts To Reach The Left: An Unmitigated Disaster by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQBJPZKR28 >Individualism and Group Interests by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5eQ5tEoRk >The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM >In Defence of Capitalism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiJGDShHJg",,Anonymous,koksal baba physical removal.png,sA43FcjuGHJGyGrwaWTRWA==,SK,,1512146354 151645697,151646278,2017-12-01 16:39:19,,,Anonymous,argumentum_ad_judaism.jpg,I+K/Cpla5OOLWXqPVJsYNA==,GB,,1512146359 151645697,151646330,2017-12-01 16:39:46,>>151646278,,Anonymous,da juice.png,FZHrZhij4QKl3AayNDdvtg==,SK,,1512146386 151645697,151646400,2017-12-01 16:40:23,">>151645998 >a lack of a state isnt a lack of a state",,Anonymous,,,,,1512146423 151645697,151646498,2017-12-01 16:41:15,">>151645998 yeet nigga bix nood mayne we wuz kangz",,Anonymous,das rite 1.png,MIFJ9iqneVTmqeIY2YbzfA==,,,1512146475 151645697,151646516,2017-12-01 16:41:26,">>151646400 it's not anarchy until there is no hierarchy",,Anonymous,,,,,1512146486 151645697,151646527,2017-12-01 16:41:30,">>151645998 >implying communism dosent require hierarchies",,Anonymous,1488128920127.jpg,7A9qkEsIDghXvOUk0tjqpw==,,,1512146490 151645697,151646539,2017-12-01 16:41:38,">>151645998 By the leftist definition of government, anarcho-capitalist instate government in each individual. We have no problem with this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512146498 151645697,151646666,2017-12-01 16:42:54,">>151645998 Agreed. Now we're over that sophist bullshit, since who cares, why are you such a faggot?",,Anonymous,lrg_nsg_cg.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,GB,,1512146574 151645697,151646686,2017-12-01 16:43:07,">>151645998 Reminder that no one cares what ancoms think.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512146587 151645697,151646729,2017-12-01 16:43:26,">>151646516 black MEN >>>>>>>>>> all wh*Tes we wuz the original jews fractional reserve fried chickangz nigga",,Anonymous,das rite 2.png,erhOkpqEuokHKFsBhXAK6g==,,,1512146606 151645697,151646768,2017-12-01 16:43:46,"Do anarcho-capitlists even really care about the state? Or is it just a semi-socially acceptable dog-whistle for being far right? Would your average ancap be fine living in a white-only monarchy?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1512146626 151645697,151646783,2017-12-01 16:43:55,">>151646666 >free bread >only pro nice",,Anonymous,,,,,1512146635 151645697,151646832,2017-12-01 16:44:21,">>151646729 >>151646686 >>151646666 >>151646539 you do know that anarcho-capitalism won't ever be realized, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512146661 151645697,151646860,2017-12-01 16:44:36,">>151646516 Removal of hierarchy necessitates initiatory violence, since hierarchy comes about naturally",,Anonymous,,,,,1512146676 151645697,151646890,2017-12-01 16:44:52,">>151646832 You know you're a dipshit fag right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512146692 151645697,151646897,2017-12-01 16:44:56,">>151646832 you do know anarcho-communism won't ever be realized, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512146696 151645697,151646910,2017-12-01 16:45:06,">>151646832 Neither will your ideology",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512146706 151645697,151646915,2017-12-01 16:45:10,">>151646666 damn nigga got D I G I T S",,Anonymous,DAAAAMN.jpg,p17Bc3UGAnp2bo2IjqIsjg==,,,1512146710 151645697,151646930,2017-12-01 16:45:19,>>151646729,,Anonymous,homohat.png,GQ+wV9r3UFTbs4IxKZnRBA==,,,1512146719 151645697,151646947,2017-12-01 16:45:29,">>151646768 I hate the state and want nothing more then to see it destroyed",,Anonymous,,,,,1512146729 151645697,151647002,2017-12-01 16:45:54,">>151646768 >Would your average ancap be fine living in a white-only monarchy? Such a society would be more free than the average degenerate democracy.",,Anonymous,road.png,AajuFEaHf+xMKiDH4nkXrQ==,,,1512146754 151645697,151647006,2017-12-01 16:45:56,">>151646832 we wuz changz an shiet",,Anonymous,black chinese.jpg,mEYSNMOOmdXatfe2s4ZmlA==,,,1512146756 151645697,151647035,2017-12-01 16:46:13,>>151645992,,Anonymous,okhandwaifu.png,uj4pOKsqG8epu2Ub4Lo8DQ==,,,1512146773 151645697,151647086,2017-12-01 16:46:37,">>151645697 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyQe4P2O-Vc",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512146797 151645697,151647090,2017-12-01 16:46:38,">>151646897 >>151646910 um, no, try again sweetie",,Anonymous,Barricade_Voltaire_Lenoir_Commune_Paris_1871.jpg,loaEy3H4xaMdoz2+5NxsNw==,,,1512146798 151645697,151647097,2017-12-01 16:46:46,>>151645992,,Anonymous,1503883319812.png,JdsG+HMgqi+9La27rYMRvg==,,,1512146806 151645697,151647140,2017-12-01 16:47:14,">>151646768 I want to live in a white only anti-degeneracy community",,Anonymous,itsyourchoice.png,g8vPKrg+WD6AGyPS+9rzhA==,,,1512146834 151645697,151647147,2017-12-01 16:47:17,">>151645992 >>151647035 stop",,Anonymous,,,,,1512146837 151645697,151647265,2017-12-01 16:48:17,">>151647097 >greedy >weed growing",,Anonymous,removeyourself.png,rM9LtNLIDaRqWNQB8V0GoQ==,,,1512146897 151645697,151647317,2017-12-01 16:48:44,">>151647147 Oh no it's gay",,Anonymous,smugancapgirl.png,zx0RdrbbNLhdb0I44MOEkA==,,,1512146924 151645697,151647364,2017-12-01 16:49:11,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,mussoliniman.jpg,GE+FnHklw7TVhlki5/ImHA==,NL,,1512146951 151645697,151647371,2017-12-01 16:49:16,What has the government done to piss you off today?,,Anonymous,taxation is theft.png,AaeL/xEqnNkE62wnvTh2zA==,GB,,1512146956 151645697,151647395,2017-12-01 16:49:26,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512146966 151645697,151647440,2017-12-01 16:49:53,">>151647265 And?",,Anonymous,1507952440400.png,nZ+t80I60hBKNQFbQnNZJA==,,,1512146993 151645697,151647476,2017-12-01 16:50:15,">>151647364 >socialism >right",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147015 151645697,151647560,2017-12-01 16:50:57,">>151647317 shiet mayne even though i's statistically more likely to fuck wit that gay shid, I REALLY don' fuck wit dis gay shiet",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147057 151645697,151647604,2017-12-01 16:51:15,">>151647476 national socialism is inherently right wing you can take him with you fascists :)",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147075 151645697,151647671,2017-12-01 16:51:49,,,Anonymous,democracydistorsconservatism(hoppe).png,s6qfwknhVutdrrCzNqgLOg==,,,1512147109 151645697,151647747,2017-12-01 16:52:32,">>151647604 >fascist >against violation of property rights",,Anonymous,thinkbrain.png,+eSEQkWeqBnsIqofe7sOyA==,,,1512147152 151645697,151647761,2017-12-01 16:52:39,">>151647364 >mussolini >wh*Te benito mussolini wuz a BLACK MAN",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147159 151645697,151647790,2017-12-01 16:52:53,,,Anonymous,democratsandcommunistsexpelled(hoppe).jpg,9IxqiIx9LiCW9LpxQb+srA==,,,1512147173 151645697,151647804,2017-12-01 16:53:03,">>151647747 >property rights no such thing",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147183 151645697,151647822,2017-12-01 16:53:12,,,Anonymous,educationwouldchange(hoppe).jpg,zd5SUL4P3wSpD6YL8ydrcA==,,,1512147192 151645697,151647903,2017-12-01 16:53:54,">>151647804 >>151647804",,Anonymous,costimpliedbychoice(1).png,EOipyeLmwdLNJwFcpHLhlg==,,,1512147234 151645697,151647922,2017-12-01 16:54:05,">>151647476 >>151647604 >>151647804 stfu both of you",,Anonymous,fascism_is_superior.jpg,nDhKwHIlh3ATkmBl1szdoQ==,NL,,1512147245 151645697,151647933,2017-12-01 16:54:12,">>151647903 >>151647804",,Anonymous,bodyandtimescarcity(2).png,Y5uSyOgcQL6XoakCpEKHig==,,,1512147252 151645697,151647979,2017-12-01 16:54:37,">>151647804 >>151647933",,Anonymous,ownershipmustbeestablished(3).png,upJL211PV06GsClBPJ7DYw==,,,1512147277 151645697,151648073,2017-12-01 16:55:35,,,Anonymous,exclusion(hoppe).jpg,osOj9VyjBhusgcQYjpx3TQ==,,,1512147335 151645697,151648114,2017-12-01 16:55:55,">>151647922 we're going to bash the fash and you can't stop us",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147355 151645697,151648140,2017-12-01 16:56:10,>>151647922,,Anonymous,1500802073512.png,ektUFrGZEyHp7q81Ntg+Bw==,,,1512147370 151645697,151648176,2017-12-01 16:56:25,>>151648114,,Anonymous,1512070347388.png,mUI37I5YX1pWZ9TBl0IijA==,GB,,1512147385 151645697,151648202,2017-12-01 16:56:36,">>151648114 LOL Holy fuck, please try, good luck",,Anonymous,crushthemob.jpg,jOl0VYCbXFrjzUt1zhku1A==,,,1512147396 151645697,151648266,2017-12-01 16:57:12,">>151648176 >another helicopter meme yawn.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147432 151645697,151648295,2017-12-01 16:57:23,">>151648140 A high-trust ethnically homogenous community of whites is what will create a libertarian society",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147443 151645697,151648324,2017-12-01 16:57:42,">>151647922 yas queen slay capitalism is keepin the BLACK MAN down!",,Anonymous,best meme.jpg,lJW8vuXsono6mSgQO69M/g==,,,1512147462 151645697,151648353,2017-12-01 16:57:55,">>151648266 Why are you here?",,Anonymous,naturalorder.png,ilQ3ENyaaqcvjd2AF+kIpg==,,,1512147475 151645697,151648410,2017-12-01 16:58:27,,,Anonymous,exclusionnecessarytoavoiddecay(hoppe).jpg,NdF/pQVPzktuDN+2H1YaEw==,,,1512147507 151645697,151648435,2017-12-01 16:58:45,">>151648202 hoppe is a harmless queer, gassig him would be a waste of chemicals >>151648324 >implying slave trade wasnt a capitalistic enterprise",,Anonymous,3467638_49e0fb184661f292a3e05db4ab0015ca_wm.jpg,l4MzWL0Urm+MTefgAYFvHQ==,NL,,1512147525 151645697,151648467,2017-12-01 16:58:59,,,Anonymous,welfarecausesculturerot(hoppe).jpg,EJJwiEa46FHahcTtC8gHjg==,,,1512147539 151645697,151648524,2017-12-01 16:59:36,">>151647903 >>151647933 >>151647979 reminder that hoppe is a monarchist shill funded by the former austrian royal family",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147576 151645697,151648578,2017-12-01 17:00:04,">>151648435 >capitalism >not respecting property rights (in one's self) I think you're confused kiddo, slavery and murder is inherently against capitalism",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147604 151645697,151648646,2017-12-01 17:00:42,">>151645697 Violent goons threatening people with violence for not obeying their arbitrary dictates and otherwise extorting from people is always morally wrong Minarchists are self-delusional.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512147642 151645697,151648680,2017-12-01 17:00:58,">>151648435 >anything for-profit is capitalist",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147658 151645697,151648704,2017-12-01 17:01:13,">>151648524 Very nice argument!",,Anonymous,crushantifa.jpg,Y9QyMvVTGAf467BJ4nvRUw==,,,1512147673 151645697,151648831,2017-12-01 17:02:25,">>151648524 Hoppe prefering monarchy to democracy is not controversial",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147745 151645697,151648843,2017-12-01 17:02:35,">>151648578 yea funny how that turns out, its almost like expecting ethical behaviour out of materialists is a retarded idea",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512147755 151645697,151648855,2017-12-01 17:02:44,">>151648524 You say that like it's a bad thing.",,Anonymous,1486604287550.jpg,mHvikm3ZowHsMCkO6xQG6g==,,,1512147764 151645697,151648932,2017-12-01 17:03:26,"Real question here, not a troll. in an anarch-capitalist society who enforces the NAP? Who ensures that people don't band together to take power over an area/others?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512147806 151645697,151649072,2017-12-01 17:04:40,">>151648831 >>151648855 monarchy is hierarchical and must be destroyed alongside capitalism and fascism",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147880 151645697,151649074,2017-12-01 17:04:41,">>151648932 There's various different practical theories on private police/-defense agencies https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Private_defense_agency",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147881 151645697,151649108,2017-12-01 17:04:59,">>151648435 yea mayne we wuz chained up niggas got traded like cattle the wh*Tes will never oppress us again, and proud BLACK MEN like Mussolini made sure of that",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147899 151645697,151649125,2017-12-01 17:05:11,">>151648524 see >>151648831 The veneer of ""participation"" as justification for goons gooning is part of why the goons get away with their goonery. Everyone else rationalizes away the goonery as somehow being justified or legitimate because >""we choose our own government xD"" It's toxic.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512147911 151645697,151649145,2017-12-01 17:05:20,">>151649072 being this much against the natural order of things",,Anonymous,,,,,1512147920 151645697,151649234,2017-12-01 17:06:01,">>151648932 private security agencies that provide mercenaries to those with capital >>151649108 am i supposed to laugh?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512147961 151645697,151649325,2017-12-01 17:06:45,">>151649145 >natural order >natural nice appeal to nature fallacy kiddo",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148005 151645697,151649404,2017-12-01 17:07:27,">>151649234 nigga your country is a literal social construct you're a literal meme lmao",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148047 151645697,151649445,2017-12-01 17:07:53,">>151649325 >capitalism When I make a fishing pole and trade it to Bob for his chicken, that's capitalism in action.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512148073 151645697,151649491,2017-12-01 17:08:10,">>151649325 >what is empirical research?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148090 151645697,151649541,2017-12-01 17:08:36,">>151648932 The same people who are already payed so that they may enforce the law, but the law they enforce will be just And their pay will come from the same money from the same people, except there wont only be one provider and it wont be a forced transaction.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148116 151645697,151649589,2017-12-01 17:08:56,">>151649404 I dont identify with this garbage country and the maggots that happen to live here",,Anonymous,1506572414050.png,1BZulGrx283m/gsVwwPZPQ==,NL,,1512148136 151645697,151649618,2017-12-01 17:09:14,">>151649491 praxeology isn't empirical LOL",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148154 151645697,151649623,2017-12-01 17:09:15,>>151649325,,Anonymous,1480372977073.jpg,+xfU18Pir124dq1CG480hQ==,,,1512148155 151645697,151649632,2017-12-01 17:09:20,">>151649325 How do you justify attacking people for voluntary actions that do not act against anyone else?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148160 151645697,151649668,2017-12-01 17:09:39,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r09a9NaYtQ Ancap thread theme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512148179 151645697,151649852,2017-12-01 17:11:31,">>151649618 Economic modeling and ""perfect competition"" isn't empirical.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512148291 151645697,151649862,2017-12-01 17:11:35,">>151649632 you're acting against the proletariat by promoting your shitty hierarchical ideology",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148295 151645697,151649863,2017-12-01 17:11:35,">>151649618 >",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148295 151645697,151649885,2017-12-01 17:11:47,">>151649623 >Dies from internal bleeding >Correlation is not causation",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148307 151645697,151649983,2017-12-01 17:12:36,">>151649852 >x isnt y therefore z isn't y either",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148356 151645697,151650186,2017-12-01 17:14:24,">>151649983 That wasn't implied. The statement is literally >Economic modeling and ""perfect competition"" isn't empirical.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512148464 151645697,151650187,2017-12-01 17:14:23,">>151649589 good, then go fucking blow up a dyke and drown all the fags and muzzies",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1512148463 151645697,151650770,2017-12-01 17:18:55,">>151650187 aivd meneer als u dit leest, i ga niks opblazen!",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512148735 151645697,151650772,2017-12-01 17:18:56,">>151649862 Not at all, my action of trading with someone does not infringe upon anyone else.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512148736 151645697,151651262,2017-12-01 17:23:27,Holy shit look at all the meme flags and irrelevant opinions,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512149007 151645697,151651379,2017-12-01 17:24:29,">>151651262 >non country LMAO",,Anonymous,,,,,1512149069 151645697,151651797,2017-12-01 17:27:52,What do you boys think of /ourguy/ Tom Woods?,,Anonymous,mbWa49ZD[1].jpg,4wlFlZhFnU9se3NmNOfz2Q==,CA,,1512149272 151645697,151652021,2017-12-01 17:29:52,">>151651379 Are you retarded?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512149392 151645697,151652255,2017-12-01 17:31:52,">>151652021 when was the last time holland was relevant?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512149512 151645697,151652586,2017-12-01 17:34:54,">>151652255 Look at you acting tough behind your meme flag",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512149694 151645697,151652714,2017-12-01 17:36:04,">>151652586 countries and nationality are irrelevant anyway",,Anonymous,,,,,1512149764 151645697,151652909,2017-12-01 17:37:37,">>151652714 >Muh socialization is everything",,Anonymous,,,,,1512149857 151645697,151653158,2017-12-01 17:39:26,">>151652909 t. autistic individualists",,Anonymous,,,,,1512149966 151645697,151653201,2017-12-01 17:39:47,">>151652714 Thats why you thought it was important to insult mine, fuck off meme flag fag",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512149987 151645697,151653256,2017-12-01 17:40:11,">>151645697 Remember to separate the colours is right! Last time I failed to and put red socks in with white shirts, it completely ruined them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512150011 151645697,151653363,2017-12-01 17:41:04,">>151653201 why dont you use your ""socialist"" meme flag so",,Anonymous,,,,,1512150064 151645697,151653446,2017-12-01 17:41:47,">>151653158 >anarcho-communist >calling others autistic",,Anonymous,ROADS 123.png,Rx8MucN+lZXSYzClqBP5hQ==,,,1512150107 151645697,151653682,2017-12-01 17:43:43,How the fuck is Cantwell still in prison? I never actually liked the guy and thinks he's a spaz but he didn't do shit. How are they holding him?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512150223 151645697,151653785,2017-12-01 17:44:38,">>151652714 The most popular anarchist philosopher just came out in support of the nation state. How will you ever recover?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512150278 151645697,151653799,2017-12-01 17:44:47,Skrrt skrrt,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512150287 151645697,151653991,2017-12-01 17:46:22,">>151653363 >why dont you use your ""socialist"" meme flag so How about you learn to speak English",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512150382 151645697,151654112,2017-12-01 17:47:32,">>151653991 non argument, try again sweetie",,Anonymous,,,,,1512150452 151645697,151654232,2017-12-01 17:48:33,">>151653682 >How are they holding him? In a cage and with violence.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512150513 151645697,151654257,2017-12-01 17:48:48,">>151653363 not an argument, sweetie",,Anonymous,,,,,1512150528 151645697,151655330,2017-12-01 17:58:27,">>151654112 Non argument? What was i supposed to have an argument against? As to why not hide behind a meme flag then call other countries stupid? Sod off baitfag",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512151107 151645697,151656382,2017-12-01 18:07:43,">>151647476 They know they're not right-wing. By their own admission, they're anti-right-wing and anti-left-wing. They're just highly authoritarian radical centrists.",,Anonymous,fascism is not right-wing.png,o62J/PUhGNZaUcruWy8/Sw==,US,,1512151663 151645697,151656835,2017-12-01 18:11:49,Where is portubro?,,Anonymous,,,IT,,1512151909 151749101,151749101,2017-12-02 11:52:55,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - Tread Carefully,Anonymous,1512070347388.png,mUI37I5YX1pWZ9TBl0IijA==,,,1512215575 151749101,151749202,2017-12-02 11:53:58,Do you love lolis /lrg/?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512215638 151749101,151749249,2017-12-02 11:54:26,">>151749101 Hippity hoppity, niggers are property.",,Anonymous,africa bombed.png,52zyDV06nw/tiPUJllMuMg==,,,1512215666 151749101,151749336,2017-12-02 11:55:21,">>151749202 Stop being disgusting",,Anonymous,EF086C0A-B55D-4D03-803A-BD1B1543D077.jpg,ZZB1fqZilhWjow2sfCrqQA==,,,1512215721 151749101,151749591,2017-12-02 11:58:12,,,Anonymous,1505358491242.png,tG+Eaqu80ddNhE8mdNgHJQ==,,,1512215892 151749101,151749758,2017-12-02 12:00:13,">>151749202 GTFO faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512216013 151749101,151749780,2017-12-02 12:00:25,">>151749336 why would you post the first version?",,Anonymous,unknown.png,dL2OO/5gCAIc+90BK8P3Qg==,GB,,1512216025 151749101,151750786,2017-12-02 12:11:13,>>151749591,,Anonymous,sassy afro gadsden.jpg,2nPLY6dVG7dVy1NGjIft4w==,,,1512216673 151749101,151750940,2017-12-02 12:12:52,">>151749101 >>151748552 potato",,Anonymous,,,,,1512216772 151749101,151751992,2017-12-02 12:23:33,FREE MARKET,,Anonymous,1511723133531.jpg,/6poux38EalvIWV8s/vP1w==,,,1512217413 151749101,151752022,2017-12-02 12:23:54,"Daily reminder the first country to eliminate their central bank and allow free market banking will have the highest living standards on earth within 5 years. Massive high paying service sector jobs with dominate this country's economy to consume the goods the rest of the world has to produce for it. The workweek would shrink to 2-3 days a week and people would retire much earlier. This will also lead to more jobs becoming available. Everyone would have high saving rates. Houses would be inexpensive. Debt would be strongly discouraged economically. Massive automation would take place as the cost of capital goods would be extremely cheap. This will lead to massive levels of technological innovation. It would be extremely easy for the average person to start a business due to the cheap cost of capital goods. Daily reminder actual free markets have prices falling all the time instead is going up. Daily reminder America never had a system of free market banking for most of it's history. There were only patches of American history with free market banking. The panics that happened during the 1800s were due to government intervention in the banking sector. Sweden had the longest most successful period of free banking and that's what made them really rich. Daily reminder the longest period of (relatively)free banking in America coincided with the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION where wages rose and prices fell. Daily reminder central banks are the very reason the economy is a pile of shit and our generation is so fucked. Basically what I'm saying is if we had a free market, the entire fucking country would be disneyland or universal studios and people would barely have to work. Why would you NOT support this unless you were a shill that hated white people?",,Anonymous,1488455466717.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1512217434 151749101,151752102,2017-12-02 12:24:44,"Secession's not an option. Look at what happened in Waco and Ruby Ridge. A libertarian revolution will never happen in my lifetime. The LP's been subverted into oblivion, and fellow Hoppeans are too sparse to form any kind of feasible rebellion. My only other option is to find a better country. What do you fellas recommend? I hear Hong Kong and Switzerland get talked up as the freest countries on the planet, but they're slowly getting encroached upon by the PRC and EU, respectively. Where else is there to go?",,Anonymous,feels bad.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,US,,1512217484 151749101,151752435,2017-12-02 12:28:07,">>151752102 >>151748552 >>151748552 >>151748552 i recommend potato",,Anonymous,,,,,1512217687 151749101,151752457,2017-12-02 12:28:23,">>151752102 Paraguay if you like the country, Uruguay if you like the city.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512217703 151749101,151752519,2017-12-02 12:29:03,">>151752102 Spread the message while the System is breaking down, America will be receptive to its founding ideals. Waco and Ruby Ridge should only serve as an example that not resisting doesn't work and that you should NEVER have mercy with the Feds - tailor your actions as to demoralise the enemy if you want to avoid bloodshed as much as possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512217743 151749101,151752612,2017-12-02 12:30:04,This graph explains perfectly why Libertarianism doesn't work and will never work.,,Anonymous,1511848543594.png,G0J9N0DiGC1tYeMsCykLpw==,AR,,1512217804 151749101,151752699,2017-12-02 12:31:00,">>151752435 virtually remove yourself, swine",,Anonymous,gadsden oats.jpg,2evg1icCWNTFbl9kXF81rQ==,,,1512217860 151749101,151752704,2017-12-02 12:31:02,reminder that lolbergtarianism is a code word for Anarcho-Judaism,,Anonymous,1362705897136.png,jwuZ0fvXEGe8eE9AYigrNg==,US,,1512217862 151749101,151752795,2017-12-02 12:32:04,">>151752612 (you)",,Anonymous,gadsden frig off.jpg,g/WXQFPq3jD1LzaMHJ0lIQ==,,,1512217924 151749101,151752888,2017-12-02 12:32:55,">>151749202 It's called hebephilia and IT'S NOT PEDOPHILIA. It's totally normal to be attracted to girls who are going through puberty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512217975 151749101,151752897,2017-12-02 12:33:00,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ This is good optics for anti-communist fighters.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512217980 151749101,151752983,2017-12-02 12:33:59,">>151752888 Gadsden flags were a mistake.",,Anonymous,gadsden tapissery.jpg,MwZZ0dPKWC5ZYKXrqcDECQ==,,,1512218039 151749101,151753125,2017-12-02 12:35:27,">>151752704 shoo shoo Jew",,Anonymous,lrg refresh the tree of liberty.png,efKiEmenD4v9rgs2OukcGg==,,,1512218127 151749101,151753300,2017-12-02 12:37:25,>>151752704,,Anonymous,being an ancap on :pol:.jpg,E/NJP+utAVenRcD/jpLhPw==,US,,1512218245 151749101,151753399,2017-12-02 12:38:26,">>151752102 The ONLY real option is to support succession movements. The reason you're so pessimistic is because you believe the USA will continue to exist forever.",,Anonymous,1511713714774.png,/4qq1I/a3GdqiHX+L8g2iw==,,,1512218306 151749101,151753478,2017-12-02 12:39:08,">>151752704 How is giving whites total freedom a jewish thing?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512218348 151749101,151753638,2017-12-02 12:40:39,">>151752102 >HONG KONG LOL LOOK AT THIS FAGGOT. Hong Kong is not a seperate country anymore. That's like saying Macau is a seperate country from China, too. China is just waiting for an excuse to bring down the iron fist on Hong Kong. And no, you would not like living there. It is filled to the fucking brim with pakis and mudshits trying to sell weed and rip people off. Still a cool place to visit, though. Very nice vacation place as long as you stay on Hong Kong island and not the part connected to mainland China. p.s. Try the shrimps at the Bubba Gump in Hong Kong. They are heavenly. t. A guy who was in Hong Kong for a week.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512218439 151749101,151753748,2017-12-02 12:41:51,"DESTROY THE ANTIFA MOB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t125dcvJv9Q",,Anonymous,P9T8zaeb_400x400.jpg,SRpWfcsFUgs+mT2xAy8UFA==,,,1512218511 151749101,151753930,2017-12-02 12:43:46,">>151753748 >hoppe basically saying the police or right wing death squads should beat antifa scum to death Why is he so based bros?",,Anonymous,qjjocjqh5jgz.jpg,5LyTIowQt96CsGWH03YG+A==,,,1512218626 151749101,151754721,2017-12-02 12:51:58,">>151752102 You’re right that it likely won’t happen in your life time, but the reasons why it won’t are solvable. There’s a numbers problem? Then get yourself together, get a girl, and have kids. This is the only way anything can truly survive, through reproduction. The family is EVERYTHING, libertarian kids are our future.",,Anonymous,2B6D2DD4-7FC2-470D-834F-AFB3005CF3ED.jpg,SmpoBbjmCFG4PnWQtZpzgA==,,,1512219118 151749101,151754792,2017-12-02 12:52:42,">>151749780 There’s no cleaned up version for that one m8",,Anonymous,,,,,1512219162 151749101,151754903,2017-12-02 12:53:54,">>151752704 t. The (((State)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1512219234 151749101,151755363,2017-12-02 12:58:54,">>151754792 But didn't you colour it in?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512219534 151749101,151755444,2017-12-02 12:59:47,"Why are you guys so fucking lazy and can't accomplish shit? Why not make infographics explaining american history or economic principles? How about explaining how the robber barons were actually a massive benefit to the working class using real sources and statistics? How about explaining the great depression was caused by government interventionism? Nah, didn't think so. Keep meming like retards.",,Anonymous,1494444447773.png,wcLuZTGJ++vACE3iK1LKOA==,,,1512219587 151749101,151755657,2017-12-02 13:01:53,,,Anonymous,ancappango1.png,9AGc4J1FR9ttu1cBwYk68w==,,,1512219713 151749101,151755858,2017-12-02 13:03:56,">>151755444 Why don't do you do these things if you want to see them? Why don't you see how we do make caps of relevant info and arguments, but can't snap our fingers and have everything that might be helpful come into existence? Some of us are writing fucking books, or working.",,Anonymous,welfarecausesculturerot(hoppe).jpg,EJJwiEa46FHahcTtC8gHjg==,,,1512219836 151749101,151755996,2017-12-02 13:05:31,"H O P P E W A V E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzrqtCDp-k8",,Anonymous,,,,,1512219931 151749101,151756006,2017-12-02 13:05:37,">>151755858 >>151755444 This is actually a good idea though, why not join our discord and try to get it happening? You clearly have the knowledge, write something up for us!",,Anonymous,yourelyonwhitemen(hoppe).jpg,JYReLHTUb4e5S4baAD5KRQ==,,,1512219937 151749101,151756209,2017-12-02 13:07:40,">>151753300 No libertarians care about the ""Libertarians party of America"" or i hope they don't",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1512220060 151749101,151756218,2017-12-02 13:07:48,">>151755858 >Why don't do you do these things if you want to see them? because I'm lazy too, but you faggots shouldn't be lazy I'm just telling you why our movement is failing. >Why don't you see how we do make caps of relevant info and arguments Because you don't know how to make proper inforgraphics with relevant information. People will be swayed more by historical facts than by anything else.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220068 151749101,151756237,2017-12-02 13:08:03,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U Good channel with Cantwell reuploads",,Anonymous,LRG.png,mPx7QfYUsYBlR6XGjgQKyw==,,,1512220083 151749101,151756273,2017-12-02 13:08:28,">>151756006 I probably am in your discord, the problem is you people are never there. Sad. Anyway link me to the discord again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220108 151749101,151756328,2017-12-02 13:09:02,">>151756237 >Cantwell >crying on camera and being in jail like a sperg Embarrassing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220142 151749101,151756391,2017-12-02 13:09:36,">>151756218 Then work with us, you can write or link what resources you think we should use, and our meme magicians can make it digestable. Don't shit on others for being lazy unless you're ready to stop being lazy yourself. This is your idea - see it realized.",,Anonymous,ancappango4.png,i/8ruKIkfD7PZotd6X1ekA==,,,1512220176 151749101,151756469,2017-12-02 13:10:25,"Most of my knowledge about libertarianism came from FringeElements on youtube. He goes by The Alternative Hypothesis now. He used to be an ancap and would make tons of economics and history videos that explained a lot of shit. Sucks he doesn't do those videos anymore and only does race videos.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220225 151749101,151756657,2017-12-02 13:12:10,">>151756273 What? We're extremely active. You must be in the wrong one, or have muted us. Try joining again or looking for us in your discords. >>151756328 >implying he didn't have reason to cry >implying he isn't wrongfully jailed right now >any of this making him wrong or right",,Anonymous,ancappango3.png,MMH5cx1gwit5nPSEx7cGBw==,,,1512220330 151749101,151756675,2017-12-02 13:12:19,">>151756391 >and our meme magicians can make it digestable. I literally tried that. 6 months ago I went into the discord and linked a bunch of ideas(I have countless) and nobody did anything with them also one of the mods there is super autistic",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220339 151749101,151756731,2017-12-02 13:12:54,">>151756469 Read some books you nigger",,Anonymous,costimpliedbychoice(1).png,EOipyeLmwdLNJwFcpHLhlg==,,,1512220374 151749101,151756739,2017-12-02 13:13:01,">>151756657 >What? We're extremely active. You must be in the wrong one, or have muted us. Try joining again or looking for us in your discords. It's ""/lrg/"" right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220381 151749101,151756843,2017-12-02 13:14:19,">>151756657 Why isn't this thread constantly posted? Seems like a shame.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220459 151749101,151756865,2017-12-02 13:14:33,">>151756675 6 months ago was a long time, try one more time won't you? I personally will see what I can do. Ping somebody. Also stop being gay.",,Anonymous,concernedpangolin.png,n0ZszzxCaynk6pyGecwiAw==,,,1512220473 151749101,151756881,2017-12-02 13:14:39,">>151756675 Listen faggot, either you're one of us or you can take off that flag and replace it with the fucking rainbow. We're spreading our influence and if you think your ideas are good, you should voice them and we'll decide whether to channel our autism to further them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220479 151749101,151756963,2017-12-02 13:15:31,">>151756843 >>151756739 Ping someone you nignog, it is indeed /lrg/ but someone else may have our name",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220531 151749101,151756979,2017-12-02 13:15:43,"all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says 'all laws should be illegal, except for the law that says ""all laws should be illegal, except for the law tha...""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""'""",,Anonymous,ancap-ball.jpg,9e3NkZipaFW6Zv+Fz2TVzQ==,,,1512220543 151749101,151757017,2017-12-02 13:16:07,">>151749101 If we ever came to power, how would we go about physically removing the communists from the country (I believe it should be done, just not sure how we would round them up or where they would go) No other country wants whiny commie SJW's I believe the punishment for being a commie should be the repeal of your constitutional rights as well as a severe beating, and allowing others to beat/murder you freely for a period of time. This should make them understand the importance of protecting themselves and treasuring what the founding fathers gave them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512220567 151749101,151757074,2017-12-02 13:16:38,">>151756979 >all laws should be illegal No",,Anonymous,crushantifa.jpg,Y9QyMvVTGAf467BJ4nvRUw==,,,1512220598 151749101,151757247,2017-12-02 13:18:23,">>151757017 Through rejection of communists from our private property, through societal ostracization (freedom of association and right to discriminate), and through defensive action against aggressive action. Where will they go? Who cares!",,Anonymous,youwillhavetoberemoved.png,DTscRrnkm5b4AktLnFSnhg==,,,1512220703 151749101,151757249,2017-12-02 13:18:24,"Remember lads, 'anarcho'-capitalism is an oxymoron.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220704 151749101,151757309,2017-12-02 13:19:03,"So ""LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL"" just means Nazi, correct?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512220743 151749101,151757375,2017-12-02 13:19:39,">>151756865 I have a chiropractor appt I have to leave right now I'll be back in an hour though and I'll find you on the discord.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220779 151749101,151757410,2017-12-02 13:20:01,">>151757249 Remember lads, 'anarcho'-communism is an oxymoron. Hierarchy is an irremovable part of mankind - the only way you try to prevent it or remove it is through aggressive interference, which itself necessitates some form of hierarchy (the aggressors above those being attacked). Your idea of non-hierarchy is one that literally can never exist!",,Anonymous,ancap_and_nazi.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,,,1512220801 151749101,151757438,2017-12-02 13:20:14,">>151757309 sure it does, commie, now get in the oven",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1512220814 151749101,151757495,2017-12-02 13:20:49,>>151757249,,Anonymous,1491704809462.jpg,7OZYKfTZdhWW0H0q8ACRsA==,,,1512220849 151749101,151757502,2017-12-02 13:20:53,">>151757375 Sounds good my guy >>151757309 >anarcho-capitalism >statist-communism Yea mang we're basically Nazis",,Anonymous,pleasedpangolin.png,I1DJ2fDBQZbvYuWcqOhi7g==,,,1512220853 151749101,151757552,2017-12-02 13:21:28,What does /lrg/ think of Somaliland?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512220888 151749101,151757593,2017-12-02 13:21:51,">>151756739 Yeah, that's it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512220911 151749101,151757678,2017-12-02 13:22:44,">>151757410 Ancap untermensch would have been executed.",,Anonymous,lachenfuhrer.jpg,0Ppe2lHt9NdaGGN2KgtBqA==,,,1512220964 151749101,151757735,2017-12-02 13:23:18,">>151757552 Too many niggers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512220998 151749101,151757753,2017-12-02 13:23:29,">>151757309 No, it's more like special snowflake individualism general.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512221009 151749101,151757889,2017-12-02 13:24:51,"Join the fucking discord you fags, it's where we have arguments, bantz, make memes, white power songs and rebel songs played live, and BTFO the stray commies/nazis that end up there We also will make you fucking READ",,Anonymous,lrg_squad.png,M9dYbgwOC+Dmxlcqrc9yNA==,,,1512221091 151749101,151757970,2017-12-02 13:25:35,">>151757678 >untermensch >executed Keep taking the blue pill, goy. Remember, if you didn't have blonde hair, blue eyes, and a jaw strong enough to chew nails, you got gassed along with the totally innocent Jews who'd never support Communist movements in Germany, ESPECIALLY not in 1918's Spartacist uprising, the leaders of which definitely weren't all Jews. Also the Freikorps was 100% Nazis and no right-minded person would join such an outfit. Hitler only wanted to gas the Jews because he only had one nut.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512221135 151749101,151758022,2017-12-02 13:26:02,">>151757678 >implying your movement isn't more degenerate than libertarians could ever want the freedom to be >>151757753 >individual rights >snowflake individualism",,Anonymous,thinkbrain.png,+eSEQkWeqBnsIqofe7sOyA==,,,1512221162 151749101,151758078,2017-12-02 13:26:37,"MIKE CERNOVICH GOES FULL ANTI FREE SPEECH FULL BLOWN KIKE GET IN HERE >>151757668 >>151757668 >>151757668 >>151757668 >>151757668",,Anonymous,1509213481582.jpg,iCiJiQHE0nSccpDdiSXulA==,US,,1512221197 151749101,151758223,2017-12-02 13:27:58,">>151749101 ""OY VEY GOYIM, YOU ARE OBLIGED TO BECOME A COMMUNIST, THEN WE WILL LET OUR PROPERTY"" @ ""OY VEY GOYIM, YOU ARE OBLIGED TO BECOME A LIBERTYANIAN, THEN WE CAN PROTECT OUR PROPERTY FROM YOU"" pathetic",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1512221278 151749101,151758259,2017-12-02 13:28:18,">>151752888 >888",,Anonymous,hoppehand.jpg,gbX7AkP2qFSvqM29R9VzuQ==,,,1512221298 151749101,151758454,2017-12-02 13:30:10,"You guys are the worst thing to have happened to libertarianism. All you are doing is giving the left more ammunition. Libertarians are now synonymous with nazis and ultra conservatives. I almost think it was false flag operation because too many liberals were supportive of individual freedoms. All you guys want is private fascism (stupidly) which is unrealistic anyways. Practical anarchism would mean trying to figure out effective ways of subverting our current authoritarian systems. Not arguing over who gets to live in ancapistan. And btw there it would violate the NAP to deprive someone of their medication. Just because someone enters your property that doesn't mean you can not tell them to take their diabetes or heart medication. This could apply even to such things as opiates because they get sick if they don't get their meds. If someone's outward behavior is normal you have no right to question what medications they are putting into their body. Get fucked hopp fags.",,Anonymous,1512146057732.jpg,pBlAUTALJG/EjoCsn7hOfA==,,,1512221410 151749101,151758554,2017-12-02 13:30:58,what do you guys think about net neutrality,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512221458 151749101,151758579,2017-12-02 13:31:10,>>151749101,,Anonymous,lolbertarians.png,gUK6COSjuaQg8/G1zd+urw==,US,,1512221470 151749101,151758747,2017-12-02 13:32:42,">>151757678 Ironically if we lived in Nazi germany hypothetically all the anons who stay at home and play videogames all day or shitpost would have been sent to camps for being antisocial. Authoritarianism is really some kind of beta death cult. You hate yourself so you want an alpha to cuck you as an excuse to not give a ficht.",,Anonymous,fighter_pilot_persian_grill.jpg,swdTf/4xOW9it08aXNO0wg==,,,1512221562 151749101,151758886,2017-12-02 13:33:56,">>151757309 Nazis are authoritarian spergs that call everything degenerate and want the state to be their parent, because they never grew up. We hold property rights and self determination as sacred. Nazis and all other socialists must be physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512221636 151749101,151759013,2017-12-02 13:35:14,">>151758454 No one can force me to give what I own to anyone else. You're right that if someone is on my property I cant make them not take their medication. I can however eject them for whatever reason I choose, as I exercise full ownership and control over my property, and if I wanted to reject them for taking their medicine I could. We have no right to violate someone's property by trying to physically prevent them from ingesting drugs. We are ENTIRELY able to judge someone for what actions they take, we are entirely able to choose to not interact with someone based on the choices they make. Fuck out of here with your contradictory beliefs. You can be a degenerate - and I can reject you for it. We are what was necessary for libertarianism to succeed. Libertarianism will die if it's just a bunch of faggots who want rights solely so they can ruin themselves. We are not anywhere near Nazis, and there is nothing wrong with right wing views.",,Anonymous,homohat.png,GQ+wV9r3UFTbs4IxKZnRBA==,,,1512221714 151749101,151759234,2017-12-02 13:37:29,">>151757247 yeah but where are we gonna put them? It's easier just to make it legal to beat the fuck outta them Amazing how much can be solved from one good beating.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512221849 151749101,151759235,2017-12-02 13:37:30,">>151758579 >implying my community would ever accept the presence of niggers >>151758554 Government interference = bad However even without it being direct legislation, our internet comes from public infrastructure atm. Meaning NN legislation = rapid decay of internet that relies on public infrastructre = move towards entirely private internet. Hypothetically.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512221850 151749101,151759345,2017-12-02 13:38:38,">>151759235 >>implying my community would ever accept the presence of niggers whos gonne stop jamal and his gang from moving in?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512221918 151749101,151759612,2017-12-02 13:40:58,">>151759345 private covenant communities who care about their property, their children, and themselves",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1512222058 151749101,151759659,2017-12-02 13:41:28,">>151759345 >whos gonne stop jamal and his gang from moving in? The private death squad guarding the community property line.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222088 151749101,151759737,2017-12-02 13:42:15,">>151759345 Everyone's guns and our right to blow them the fuck out if they violate property rights. You already pay for your own defense, you're just forced to pay into one provider that has no competition to provide a good service and rather than defend you is designed to violate your rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222135 151749101,151759743,2017-12-02 13:42:19,"I'm a libertarian in Australia looking to join a political party. We have a small libertarian party and we also have a much larger liberal democrats party which is a small L liberal group but they support open borders and I cant get on board with that. What do?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1512222139 151749101,151759754,2017-12-02 13:42:24,">>151758454 S E B A S T O S",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222144 151749101,151759899,2017-12-02 13:43:49,">>151759737 >>151759659 >>151759612 so your plan is a shootout with nigger gangs?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512222229 151749101,151760047,2017-12-02 13:45:06,">>151759899 are you implying niggers can shoot in the first place?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222306 151749101,151760076,2017-12-02 13:45:21,">>151759899 >implying that isn't the only real solution",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512222321 151749101,151760087,2017-12-02 13:45:31,">>151759899 >What are borders?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222331 151749101,151760106,2017-12-02 13:45:41,">>151759899 >so our plan is defending ourselves with violence if we are violently attacked ...Yes. It's not like we couldn't outshoot fucking baboons.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222341 151749101,151760205,2017-12-02 13:46:34,">>151758454 t. Jeffery Cucker",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222394 151749101,151760265,2017-12-02 13:47:09,"Don't worry lads. Some of us are working around the clock, and right under your noses subverting society for liberty. =D",,Anonymous,11816897_1641714546097516_3186376108643312686_n.jpg,H24Sn9Mx8szLAUJAPohgfw==,,,1512222429 151749101,151760522,2017-12-02 13:49:26,">>151759013 Like I said. Arguing over hypothetical ancapistan is a waste of time. It's not going to happen until there is another period of colonization either in space or on the ocean somehow. >We are ENTIRELY able to judge someone for what actions they take How are you going to tell who is on drugs from their outward appearance and behavior? Only a small minority of drug users let their outward behavior or appearance be affected. Are you suggesting that you would piss test everyone who enters your private city? Why would anyone want to associate with you then? Your community would become the piaria then. And so the system you are proposing is no different than statism.. I guess you'd want doctors doling out pills just like they do now? How is that any better? Don't you want the right to ""prep"" for possible disasters? Painkillers and antibiotics are necessary for any good SHTF kit. Are you going to deprive your community members the access to medications for preparation purposes? Why not just take away their guns while youre at it? Nazi. >You can be a degenerate - and I can reject you for it. And people would reject you and your community for being overly judgmental and stifling. You are not god. You cannot judge what is degenerate to one human being or another. What may help one person may harm another. Many people have differing brain and body chemistries and certain substances can help people achieve more effective functionality. This is why dogma is so harmful, because no one solution is perfect for all humans. And it doesnt fucking matter because this is all fucking hypothetical. Unless you figure out some way of colonizing space or the ocean. And I am guessing that any of the would be colonizers are not going to want to invite nazi authoritarians like yourself when they eventually start break away communities.",,Anonymous,1507092242906.jpg,33C5UNx67SA/vRPKKoA7jA==,,,1512222566 151749101,151760524,2017-12-02 13:49:27,">>151758454 >All you guys want is private fascism Sounds good to me. No degeneracy, race mixing or (((infiltration))) all while upholding private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222567 151749101,151760818,2017-12-02 13:52:23,">>151760522 >You advocate a private society I think is inefficient >Nazi",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222743 151749101,151760897,2017-12-02 13:53:09,">>151760106 but what about shooting niggers who decide to move in next door?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512222789 151749101,151760946,2017-12-02 13:53:37,">>151757502 >statist-communism Imagine not knowing anything about Prussianism but acting like you do. I guess thats typical with women though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512222817 151749101,151761089,2017-12-02 13:55:10,">>151760897 >but what about shooting niggers who decide to move in next door? If they keep their nignoging out of my private commune, I have no problem to trade with them from a far. The latter is mutually beneficial, the former isn't.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222910 151749101,151761147,2017-12-02 13:55:45,">>151757247 this if they want to try and assemble some shitty commune of their own because every other community doesn't want them, it's probably gonna fail. if by some miracle they manage to not starve in a month, good for them, just stay off anyone else's property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512222945 151749101,151761540,2017-12-02 13:59:42,">>151760522 >Arguing over hypothetical ancapistan is a waste of time. How are you meant to come to build ideas to be implemented in the future without discussing them first? >How are you going to tell who is on drugs from their outward appearance and behavior? You don't, you only remove the privileges off or eject those that are outwardly not being moral. Anyway, you seem to imply that every ancap commune that upholds traditional values would be ran in the same way which is kind of naive. You can be a libertine anywhere you like but where people don't want you to be. >Nazi Case in point. >And people would reject you and your community for being overly judgmental and stifling. You are not god. You cannot judge what is degenerate to one human being or another. What may help one person may harm another. This whole argument is a meme, how do you personally know that there'd be no market demand for traditionally ran communes? >Many people have differing brain and body chemistries and certain substances can help people achieve more effective functionality. This is why dogma is so harmful, because no one solution is perfect for all humans. Sure, everyone has different needs and demands but those that own private property have every right to run it and use it as they like. If they don't like you smoking weed then they have every right to tell you to fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512223182 151749101,151761552,2017-12-02 13:59:48,">>151759013 >>151759013 >We are what was necessary for libertarianism to succeed. No actually you are destroying any chances of deregulation and restoration of freedom through democracy. If you forgot we all still exist within democratic states. Libertarianism was very popular among liberal crowds a few years ago but now libertarians are more and more being villainized by the authoritarian leftist media. There is admittedly some hope in getting conservatives on board but we should also be trying to appeal to socially liberal individuals just the same. Just go onto /lgbt/ and ask those fags what they think of libertarianism. Ironically they should be the all about personal rights, but now they have synonymized libertarians with conservative nazis. This is partially due to demonizing capitalism (and therefore freedom) but also because of the mobs of hopp fags who advocate for some mythical hypothetical private fascist ancapistan. Remember that hopp fag that punched the cop and cried about it and had the vice piece about him? I forgot his name but sadly I think that has turned away many would be libertarians from the traditionally neoliberal side of things and many of those people voted for hillary. And lastly. We should be pooling our resources together online to subvert authority. Yet when you faggots are so unreasonable that you reject simple liberties like the right to smoke marijuana that makes it impossible for us to work together. And you are a hateful, misogynistic influence on the naive newfags and young folk. One thing that would persuade more leftists to the side of freedom than anything else would be to set up shooting events where we take liberals out to the range. But they are going to be turned off when they see threads like this or articles on jezebel about the privatized fascism you are promoting.",,Anonymous,big_booty_senpai.jpg,jk39EF5yVAV4YuE5SpJUVA==,,,1512223188 151749101,151761739,2017-12-02 14:01:46,">>151760524 So why are you here? Youre an authoritarian and don't give a shit about individual agency. You don't even think people should have agency over their own bodies. You are poser and a nazi. Why don't you convert to Islam or move to Saudi Arabia. They hate jews, fags, and drugs. You'd fit right in. And their women will be super submissive.",,Anonymous,1506820126862.jpg,h22abPp9uMpkFxDw7ZUWAw==,,,1512223306 151749101,151761985,2017-12-02 14:04:15,">>151752102 wut about FSP?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512223455 151749101,151761991,2017-12-02 14:04:19,">>151761552 Cmon man this is just libertine LARPing in the first place. Surely you don't believe a state would legally allow secession to happen without some retarded conditions being put in place, just look at Catalonia. There's no need to appeal to the liberal crowds since they don't want true liberty in the first place, they only want an excuse to do stupid shit and not take responsibility for it. We don't reject your right to smoke marijuana, we're just not going to associate with you if you abuse it. Simple as.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512223459 151749101,151762166,2017-12-02 14:06:18,">>151756979 Ancaps believe in laws. Statists believe in arbitrary edicts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512223578 151749101,151762216,2017-12-02 14:06:48,">>151761739 Private fascism, as in fascist social values on privately owned land. This is fully inline with the private property ethic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512223608 151749101,151762307,2017-12-02 14:07:49,">>151761540 how do you personally know that there'd be no market demand for traditionally ran communes? Sure there might be a market but you'd be the minority pirias and it's all fucking hypothetical and impossible for decades. There are more practical matters in the meantime. >If they don't like you smoking weed then they have every right to tell you to fuck off. So what if a person takes pills everyday yet shows no outward behaviors or signs of their pill use? And just because you *can* do something doesn't make it right or even practical. Are you just going to have a prescription system like we do now? Why not just stick with statism then?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512223669 151749101,151762577,2017-12-02 14:11:07,">>151762307 >>We don't want people to use drugs on our private property >Why don't you just stick with statism then? literally what",,Anonymous,,,,,1512223867 151749101,151762639,2017-12-02 14:11:47,">>151758454 Don't lump Hoppe in with goofballs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512223907 151749101,151762896,2017-12-02 14:14:22,">>151762307 >So what if a person takes pills everyday yet shows no outward behaviors or signs of their pill use? And just because you *can* do something doesn't make it right or even practical. Are you just going to have a prescription system like we do now? Why not just stick with statism then? If there's no outward behaviour or signs of drug usage I don't see why someone should be ostracized then but then again its completely up to the entity running the commune. I don't see why you're alluding a prescription system to statism. There'd be no restriction of sales of drugs and narcotics and a doctor could only recommend you what drugs to take, but on the flip side a pharmacy might only sell you drugs if know that you require them to remove an ailment. The beauty of the free market shines here since you have every right to set up your own pharmacy without regulations, but wouldn't you just be running a glorified drug trafficking business? Would people even want to trade with you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512224062 151749101,151763082,2017-12-02 14:16:24,">>151762307 Regarding your comments on the drugs issue, if you think other people have unreasonable ideas about what should or shouldn't be allowed, that's all the more reason to support private property. People who believe differently can live separately, instead of forever fighting over some singular top-down ""standard"" that winds up being a compromise everyone hates.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512224184 151749101,151763151,2017-12-02 14:17:03,">>151761991 >Surely you don't believe a state would legally allow secession to happen I know it's impossible that's why it's pointless fantasising about ancapistan. Unless someone figures out a way to colonize space or mars or the ocean or something like that there is no hope for a truly free society without major violence which wouldn't even be worth it. But it can be mutually beneficial to work towards common goals by pooling our resources together, however humble that may be. And there can be small victories within the system made for individual freedoms. Guns is an obvious one but also drugs and the right to self medicate, whether that is antibiotics, against vaccines, or with heroin. >There's no need to appeal to the liberal crowds Wrong. Democracy is a numbers game. Pooling resources together is a numbers game. Off putting hateful hoppian rhetoric is counterproductive. Getting more liberals on board for gun rights or dissolving the prescription system or deregulating business or what have you would be beneficial to everyone. >We don't reject your right to smoke marijuana, we're just not going to associate with you if you abuse it. Simple as. You don't speak for the hundreds of ""private fascist"" edgy types that have been posting on here since meme flags were introduced. AND this is hypothetical anyways. We are probably never going to meet in person ever. And I don't even use drugs but I do know people that use drugs yet are very successful and do not reveal their drug use through their appearance or outward behavior. But that's besides the point anyway. My point is that if we want to achieve any practical goals we have to get on the same page when it comes to individual rights and also project a more inviting rhetoric so that the socially ""liberal"" people may get on board for the same issues. And we should be thinking of ways to pool our resources together to achieve things which may be mutually beneficial.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512224223 151749101,151763685,2017-12-02 14:22:43,">>151762216 >Private fascism, as in fascist social values on privately owned land. This is fully inline with the private property ethic. Your stupid LARPING autism also makes libertarianism less popular. Just because something should be hypothetically ""legal"" in ancapistan doesn't make it productive to promote as a tenant of the ideology. Libertarianism used to be popular with liberals just a few years ago. Now it's being demonized. That's going to hurt everyone's rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512224563 151749101,151764394,2017-12-02 14:29:17,">>151762639 Hoppe was a goofball. On the flip side maybe i could make a buck or two writing about larpy ancapistan? >>151762577 If you are going to have bureaucrats (doctors) deciding who gets what (pills in this case) why not just stick with a traditional government? >>151762896 >but wouldn't you just be running a glorified drug trafficking business You just used a loaded word, kinda like Nazism. They are ""drug trafficking businesses"" now. The seller of the drugs doesn't determine whether those drugs are going to be used in a way that harms the user or not. That is all up to the user. Even with our current doctors and what not plenty of people misuse their prescriptions and many of those prescriptions cause ill effects like addiction even when they are taken as prescribed. On the flip side many people who intend to use drugs in a non-harmful way don't have access to any drug sellers besides illicit ones. >Would people even want to trade with you? About 50 percent of people use illicit drugs regularly. 10 percent are addicted. 90 percent use substances regularly including alcohol, tobacco, and nicotine. Only about 10 percent of people are actually completely sober and almost all of them drink caffeinated beverages anyway. As people's dogmas continue to fade around drug use then the pirias will be those who uphold traditional dogmas around drug use.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512224957 151749101,151764495,2017-12-02 14:30:18,">>151763685 >Just because something should be hypothetically ""legal"" in ancapistan doesn't make it productive to promote as a tenant of the ideology. Of course not. I just believe that since a free society generates low time preferences (socially conservatives,) those people are also the best at maintaining a libertarian social order. Fascist social values are just ""extreme"" conservative values after all.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512225018 151749101,151764784,2017-12-02 14:33:13,">>151764394 Are there any ancap scholars whose work you respect?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512225193 151749101,151764913,2017-12-02 14:34:23,">>151764394 >If you are going to have bureaucrats (doctors) deciding who gets what (pills in this case) why not just stick with a traditional government? It's purely based on principle. If a person created such a society, inefficient as it may be, I'd be based on legitimate private property -- unlike traditional government. Thus the libertarian situation would be preferable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512225263 151749101,151765158,2017-12-02 14:37:00,">>151764913 The reason to embrace the principles is because a simple and consistent set of rules allows people to plan for the future, which allows them to save and invest, which allows them to build the lives they want. The principles are utilitarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512225420 151749101,151765386,2017-12-02 14:38:56,">>151761552 THIS",,Anonymous,11059844_1066996856661316_1520130978571472638_n.jpg,rLtPOOhc9LUfswp4EMA3lw==,,,1512225536 151749101,151765668,2017-12-02 14:41:22,">>151765158 >The principles are utilitarian. Libertarian principles (private property) can be defended well from a utilitarian perspective. But rationally, or a priori, they're undeniable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512225682 151749101,151766032,2017-12-02 14:45:07,">>151749249 You don't need to bomb shit, just stop giving them free stuff. That's the libertarian way.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1512225907 151749101,151766545,2017-12-02 14:49:57,"Ok. Dropping my meme flag. To the anons that want to ban drug use in their private communes. You are just going to create a black market that will undermine the principles of your private society.",,Anonymous,11041524_1622924084642706_4292100196038399854_n.jpg,y5DdTNoaeySsLZ/wPxv8wg==,US,,1512226197 151749101,151766555,2017-12-02 14:50:05,">>151756006 > at a lower standard of living I feel like my standard of living would be higher were I allowed to keep what I earn and were the media not constantly attacking me.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1512226205 151749101,151766772,2017-12-02 14:52:22,">>151753930 don't make it tame, he said >CRUSH THE ANTIFASCIST MOB",,Anonymous,,,,,1512226342 151749101,151766860,2017-12-02 14:53:03,">>151764784 Honestly I haven't read any. It's boring to me because it's all very hypothetical. If I had more time then it might be beneficial just to get some reference. I usually listen to podcasts because I do study other things at the same time. And honestly I usually disagree with everyone I listen to but I really like what Michael Malice has to say. He's the guy that wrote ""Dear Leader"" and he's been featured on several podcasts. I like what he has to say about freedom and libertarianism on ""The Rubin Report"" as much as I disagree with Rubin in general. I also don't like that Malice's own podcast is behind a paywall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDmaPdyqGUU His new book about the ""new right"" sounds like it's going to be good. But my personal views, as I have been trying to express them here, is that all this hypothetical shit is somewhat meaningless and could be summed up very briefly. What really matters is what I like to call ""Pragmatical Anarchism"" and what I mean by that is things we can do on a practical level to restore our personal liberties. And I don't mean only legislation. Bitocoin, the ""uber"" model, the free software foundation, and open source movement are examples of pragmatic anarchism in my viewpoint.",,Anonymous,XB4jKf38.jpg,eJpzYk6UeATeJQbHfMi27Q==,,,1512226383 151749101,151766936,2017-12-02 14:53:48,">>151766545 It's not really a black market if they're completely entitled to buy, sell and use drugs. If anything it allows competition to happen in terms of establishment and running of communes, different people want different things.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512226428 151749101,151767162,2017-12-02 14:56:02,">>151766545 how will they get coke, heroin, etc, if the cia don't exist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512226562 151749101,151767523,2017-12-02 14:59:39,"One thing I have been struggling with lately is how to have libertarianism when technology will allow individuals to create weapons of mass destruction? Sooner or later it will be within the means of your garden variety psycho to build things like drone bombs, bioweapons, AI, or even nukes in something like a backyard shed or garage. There was already the infamous case of the ""nuclear boyscout"" who made a sort of nuclear reactor in his mother's shed. There are already gene editing services online which allow people to order sequences of DNA and very cheap Sequencer machines available. What happens when anyone can create a small pox virus with ""CRISPR"" or some other gene editing method? How can we maintain freedom then? Elon Musk already wants AI to be regulated? Is a police state inevitable? Should I kiss my freedom good bye and make peace with that? Or is there a kind of pseudo freedom system we could achieve? Like with cryptography? Like maybe a system where everyone has to report what they are doing every couple hours and log in with cryptographic codes or else face a tomahawk up their ass? As bad as that is, it's better than a totalitarian police state. I guess it would be like the button in LOST where if they didn't press it, or in this case get verification, the whole island they lived on would explode.",,VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE: INCOMING,800px-desmond_hatch_locke_2x24.jpg,gaiwE9Aa5GYeEZ9yq7VlAA==,,,1512226779 151749101,151767673,2017-12-02 15:01:15,">>151767523 >Sooner or later it will be within the means of your garden variety psycho to build things like drone bombs, bioweapons, AI, or even nukes in something like a backyard shed or garage. There was already the infamous case of the ""nuclear boyscout"" who made a sort of nuclear reactor in his mother's shed. There are already gene editing services online which allow people to order sequences of DNA and very cheap Sequencer machines available. This is one of the reasons I am NOT an ancap. This shit needs to be heavily controlled.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512226875 151749101,151767872,2017-12-02 15:03:16,">>151766936 Yeah but there would always be that one or two guys in the commune that want to get high at some point. Just admit that controlling what people do with their own bodies and brain isn't ethical or practical. And within those communes you will have people that don't have the resources to move out yet so then they have to start lying about what they are doing so they can sleep everynight. Whenever you try to control other people's bodies and brain you are only inviting chaos and corruption. The individual knows best what to do with their own bodies, because no one really fucking knows. No one is god, yet.",,Anonymous,infowars.jpg,aKLchcUGuJ85tbVwCGPhkg==,,,1512226996 151749101,151767896,2017-12-02 15:03:31,">>151767523 >>151767673 Then government will just use nukes instead of individuals. Tbh the only institutions which has conducted murder on large scale (foreign and domestic people) have been government. Can't see how private individual acting freely can do much worse.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227011 151749101,151767979,2017-12-02 15:04:26,">>151758886 So you want them ""removed""? By who? Somebody being authoritarian and making that parental judgement call for you? So you want the state to take care of your business for you? Yep, you're a Nazi.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512227066 151749101,151768252,2017-12-02 15:07:01,">>151767673 >This shit needs to be heavily controlled. Give me liberty or give me death? Maybe it's not worth living unless we can be free? Maybe rich people can hedge against this kind of thing with containment systems and force fields? Maybe we just have to build force fields and containment systems into our public infrastructure and then when ""it"" happens all the poor people wil die? And if we die trying to be free and the intelligent nano machines take over then who cares if they are intelligent anyways.. Maybe they will recreate us within their hive conscious as computer simulations of humans? Is being cucked, but alive, really worth a totalitarian police state? What's the point of life without a dick? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRWztS3_L84",,Anonymous,download.jpg,5fsmn6uztEhJk6lPx5vXuQ==,,,1512227221 151749101,151768268,2017-12-02 15:07:07,">>151767979 I heard about some civilian volunteers guarding the US/Mexico border a while back. Surely this can work with physical removals as well.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227227 151749101,151768429,2017-12-02 15:08:41,">>151767872 You're not really controlling them if they agreed to the terms of not using drugs on your private premises, such as signing a contract. They should know the ramifications of breaking a contract beforehand and adjusting where they want to live according to their own set of morals ideals. Again, no one is forcing them to not take drugs or even mess with their body in other ways, but nobody can force you to accept behavior that is unproductive and ""degenerate"" on your private property either. This is really a non-issue since you'd see libertine private communes popping up anyway where such activities wouldn't be condoned.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227321 151749101,151768432,2017-12-02 15:08:41,,,Anonymous,lib1[1].jpg,iffDOiMevF8iz+4YwHqe7w==,IE,,1512227321 151749101,151768464,2017-12-02 15:09:03,"Is Alex Jones a libertarian or controlled opposition? Is he really on board with a plan to take over the republicans with Libertarians? Or just Trump's cheerleader/puppet? He always talks shit about satanism and drug use... But then he seems cool on Rogan's podcast.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPs3EeRyL9Y",,Anonymous,thedmt.png,3Nlh7BeiDIG8fzBDg5UMqw==,,,1512227343 151749101,151768495,2017-12-02 15:09:20,">>151760522 Why are you wasting your time arguing me on what free actions I would take in ancapistan? The only thing that matters is what rights we both have, not our personal opinions, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227360 151749101,151768512,2017-12-02 15:09:28,">>151766936 Agreed. Though if in any private community where drug use is banned a black market will develop, or an outside market will infiltrate.",,Anonymous,1498514736663.png,TNf4XA8LJGyt8QZ5IGw2Kw==,US,,1512227368 151749101,151768540,2017-12-02 15:09:44,">>151768432 Do you even know what a turnpike is?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227384 151749101,151768695,2017-12-02 15:11:05,"What's the ancap solution to bringing back competition to the internet? You know so Net Neuterality doesn't have to be a thing?",,Anonymous,freedom-means-not-being-neutered-support-net-neuterality.jpg,qfHxZe/zel2hjsCiwojgrA==,,,1512227465 151749101,151768731,2017-12-02 15:11:29,">>151766860 I see. I was puzzled because you're using the ancap flag designed by Rothbard, who thought Hoppe was brilliant. Maybe you should not portray yourself as an ancap if you don't actually know what it is about.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227489 151749101,151768794,2017-12-02 15:11:58,">>151768512 Why would a black market form if people are allowed to secede by their own will and set up private communities where drug usage is allowed?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227518 151749101,151768861,2017-12-02 15:12:39,">>151767162 WE CIA NAO !!! =D",,Anonymous,1502766592074.jpg,wUt1i6WtYhC8NHJx8UV52g==,US,,1512227559 151749101,151768978,2017-12-02 15:13:41,">>151761552 I don't reject your right to smoke marijuana, I just don't support your choice to do so. This is right-libertarian general. We are right wing, unbendingly so. If you think we need to focus on practical solutions, don't come to a right-wing gathering and get mad at us for our personal beliefs - work with us. If you have grand ideas and plans on how we may change the world, talk about that, get that conversation started. Dont bitch and moan about what people we dislike and say we're the useless ones. >>151761739 >you don't even think people should have agency over their own bodies Wrong, they should. People are free to make wrong choices. However, I am free to recognize the choices they made as wrong. Meaning that I can reject these people from my community, I can reject them from my property. I am not denying their own agency by doing this - I am exercising mine.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227621 151749101,151769039,2017-12-02 15:14:12,">>151766860 >I havent read anything on the ideology I claim to support Ooookay then",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227652 151749101,151769094,2017-12-02 15:14:52,">>151768252 >really worth a totalitarian police state? Dude I just want this shit regulated. What are you even saying?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227692 151749101,151769151,2017-12-02 15:15:22,">>151768695 >What's the ancap solution to bringing back competition to the internet? wired.com/2013/07/we-need-to-stop-focusing-on-just-cable-companies-and-blame-local-government-for-dismal-broadband-competition/ abolish local monopolies",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227722 151749101,151769165,2017-12-02 15:15:28,">>151768268 I saw that to. Those guys were total pieces of shit even though I liked their personal demeanor. I just can't see how gun loving freedom fighters can not want indviduals to have the right to take fentnyl if they damn well please. It really is some puritanical vestigial remnant of American culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDKEYlIeiVk This guy reminds me of my friends dad. Also volunteer charity could work to provide a social safety net the same way welfare does in europe.",,Anonymous,AZ.jpg,wOPmfaJ/5rMsxV5Dh60AiQ==,,,1512227728 151749101,151769187,2017-12-02 15:15:40,">>151749249 That fucking subtitle",,Anonymous,waiting for reacc.jpg,PFDoN9E2d58gfuV+KucB5g==,NL,,1512227740 151749101,151769335,2017-12-02 15:17:04,">>151769094 What would regulation even do? Other state and non-state actors would readily have access to destructive material regardless of if you don't want them to or not. It's not a regulation issue, it's a shitty people issue",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227824 151749101,151769361,2017-12-02 15:17:23,">>151769094 You just want the quick fix. Even if that means totalitarian police state? There has to be a better way. Literally whats the point of life when dumb ass bureaucrats control every waking second of your life? Have you ever been in a military or an organization like that? It was hell on earth for someone with problems with authority and a need for privacy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227843 151749101,151769384,2017-12-02 15:17:43,">>151768794 I am agreeing with you. Are you drunk !!! =D",,Anonymous,1506013793311.jpg,eglP/MratMSDcVgzQXgbjA==,US,,1512227863 151749101,151769484,2017-12-02 15:18:29,">>151769165 People do have the right to not be prevented physically from doing drugs on their own property. I just think these people are disgusting and degenerate. I think you're problem is that you're incapable of seeing how we could despise or not approve of something WITHOUT wanting to infringe upon people's rights. You've been brainwashed into thinking morality = enforcement of morality.",,Anonymous,freedomtodoright.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,,,1512227909 151749101,151769535,2017-12-02 15:19:04,">>151769384 No, I'm saying there'd be no need for a ""black market"" to develop or for an ""outside market to infiltrate"". People can just go and run their own shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512227944 151749101,151769573,2017-12-02 15:19:26,">>151768794 see >>151768512",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512227966 151749101,151769632,2017-12-02 15:19:56,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1477138281515.jpg,+LH77At/plqcDFPGpL9kJg==,NL,,1512227996 151749101,151769797,2017-12-02 15:21:32,Daily reminder that white nationalism is collectivism too.,,Anonymous,,,,,1512228092 151749101,151769831,2017-12-02 15:21:51,>>151763151,,Anonymous,b93.png,4aPeO+/iEliHUrMBtLTuYQ==,CA,,1512228111 151749101,151770003,2017-12-02 15:23:31,">>151769632 agreed. All materialists are leftist degenerates. This means lolberts + libs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512228211 151749101,151770095,2017-12-02 15:24:22,">>151769361 Yes, because dictatorships ALWAYS end their dictatorship when they do what they initially wanted. It’s not like Lenin and literally every other socialist leader promised anarchism and ended up creating a long term dictatorship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512228262 151749101,151770103,2017-12-02 15:24:28,">>151770003 >he doesn't know what right and left wing economics are",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228268 151749101,151770179,2017-12-02 15:25:20,">>151770103 >he doesnt understand its materialism vs spiritualism",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512228320 151749101,151770181,2017-12-02 15:25:21,">>151769797 >Daily reminder that white nationalism is collectivism too. Daily reminder that both identitarian collectivism and nationalism are non-contradictory to the libertarian legal framework.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228321 151749101,151770307,2017-12-02 15:26:38,">>151770179 >he fell for the third way meme",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228398 151749101,151770372,2017-12-02 15:27:21,">>151768495 Well if you are giving the media and reddit ammunition to make freedom unpopular then it starts to become my problem a little bit. And how are we supposed to cooperate if you want to control my body and mind? >>151768731 I know at least that much? But do you understand how you are just being an elitist hipster now? As far as I am concerned this flag just represents anarchy while respecting property agreements. That much I agree on. I don't appreciate however Hoppe's promotion of exclusionary practices or how he thought races shouldn't mix. That is damaging to libertarianism as an idealogy even if it should be ""legal."" Most of all though I am pissed off at all the fags here that rant and rave about how niggers should be left to starve in the streets because somehow ancap would allow that. It gives libertarianism a bad rep on the internets which has pragmatic consequences. I don't have to read their entire books to understand that much. >>151768978 >This is right-libertarian general. We are right wing, unbendingly so. Youre on an anime image forum. Quit larping like your speaking for some giant collective. You guys are just larping anyways. And there are plenty of people that share my feelings and you and your larping butt buddies are doing nothing but turning off people to freedom as a general principle. The leftist media can now equate liberty with racism thanks to your larpism. >Dont bitch and moan about what people we dislike and say we're the useless ones. You're not even useless. You're actually harmful to your own self interests and our shared mutual interests. Remember how we still exist in a democracy and an internet media culture that works like a feedback loop. When you put larping private fascism in that only creates more larping fascism and counter authoritarianism. >Meaning that I can reject these people from my community You're the one thats getting rejected.",,Anonymous,mU4VQ62.jpg,pgeKz5nkCeUP3bsA3GjBSw==,,,1512228441 151749101,151770403,2017-12-02 15:27:38,">>151770181 Yeah, because kicking literally every non-white person out of your country could be done without long term dictatorship which will inevitably turn into national SOCIALISM.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228458 151749101,151770416,2017-12-02 15:27:49,Do you hold the same political views as your parents? Do you believe your kids will hold yours or are you hoping they will?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512228469 151749101,151770432,2017-12-02 15:28:02,">>151770307 >he didnt",,Anonymous,quote-jose-antonio-primo-de-rivera-stated-fascism-was-born-to-inspire-a-faith-not-of-the-right-jose-antonio-primo-de-rivera-73-19-09.jpg,yA5zPqajLV5i7SVTFEDfMQ==,NL,,1512228482 151749101,151770461,2017-12-02 15:28:18,">>151769039 Blah blah blah anarchy, property rights, racism. What am I missing? I can just spare myself the few hours it takes to read through their larp fantasy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228498 151749101,151770475,2017-12-02 15:28:25,">>151770403 How can it be done in an ancap society?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1512228505 151749101,151770531,2017-12-02 15:29:04,">>151769632 Ah, the regular fascist dutchman. How are you on this fine evening?",,Anonymous,南斗乱れる時、北斗現れる.jpg,dl/pJ5xp+kngCsYjLAxlhQ==,US,,1512228544 151749101,151770568,2017-12-02 15:29:26,">>151770432 >he thinks fascism is a thrid way just because you don't even think about economics doesn't mean you are magically third way",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228566 151749101,151770598,2017-12-02 15:29:47,">>151770475 >How can it be done in an ancap society? IT CAN’T! Which is why people who propose it ought to stop larping as ancaps.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512228587 151749101,151770662,2017-12-02 15:30:23,">>151770461 so you don't think, you just feel?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228623 151749101,151770750,2017-12-02 15:31:21,">>151770531 >pic Just got done watching that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF4JrSOqJfk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512228681 151749101,151770756,2017-12-02 15:31:24,">>151770531 comfy, you lads? >>151770568 I do think about economics. corporative economcis",,Anonymous,1497140281052.png,IEDAxpHmOI1TBFN8qzIieg==,NL,,1512228684 151749101,151770822,2017-12-02 15:32:00,">>151770750 ",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228720 151749101,151770856,2017-12-02 15:32:14,"Question: How do libertarians intend to seize power? Democracy won't work because of the two party system and the majority of immigrants/nonwhites voting for the left. Wouldn't a coup/dictatorship have to be authoritarian in nature to maintain power and enforce a libertarian social order? How do you justify this?",,Anonymous,Ancap GF.jpg,gxoZJCIZxBWZftENkMKmlA==,US,,1512228734 151749101,151770941,2017-12-02 15:32:57,">>151770756 so you're a leftist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228777 151749101,151771126,2017-12-02 15:34:51,">>151770750 Excellent taste, my friend. >>151770756 Kinda fed up with my countrymen, but comfy otherwise.",,Anonymous,お前はもう死んでいる.png,hHDLbd+hNuIJp7ExsAioFg==,US,,1512228891 151749101,151771130,2017-12-02 15:34:54,">>151770372 I dont want to control your body or mind. I also don't support moral-laws, I will publicly advocate for their demolishment.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228894 151749101,151771139,2017-12-02 15:34:58,">>151770856 democracy is prone to be taken over and turned into a heavy collectivism, always happens",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228898 151749101,151771145,2017-12-02 15:35:03,">>151769484 >morality = enforcement of morality. Did I say that? And you have no idea what is degenerate. Your dogmatic beliefs about medications being moral or immoral are degenerate. And your communities would be smaller than the more inclusive ones. Also the amount of comfort provided in a society to eccentric individuals directly correlates with the amount of creative output of that society. Hard work is no longer as valued as creative potential. And it's no coincidence that all the greatest artists and musicians are eccentric drug users. When human beings first began to develop agriculture that meant that males no longer had to be hunters or warriors. That is what sprang up all the great neolithic sites of the ancient world. And in Nazi Germany many of the scientists fled to work for the Americans on their nuclear project. Your prohibitionist communes would be outcompeted by more creative communities with more comfort provided to the drug addicted autists.",,Anonymous,degen.jpg,rErlZM+Hl0nWwHDo7jyVPA==,,,1512228903 151749101,151771239,2017-12-02 15:35:57,">>151770941 that would imply is suppor class struggle, which i dont",,Anonymous,fascism_is_superior.jpg,nDhKwHIlh3ATkmBl1szdoQ==,NL,,1512228957 151749101,151771270,2017-12-02 15:36:21,">>151769535 Yeah but it's not realistic. Because a few community members that use drugs would always find themselves even in your prohibitive communes. But none of this fucking matters cause we should be working on how to restore our rights in a practical manner.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512228981 151749101,151771292,2017-12-02 15:36:38,">>151771139 Of course, it can never last.",,Anonymous,The Problem With Democracy.jpg,b25+XP7SI7gSe42YBsdfoQ==,US,,1512228998 151749101,151771324,2017-12-02 15:36:58,">>151769797 Voluntary collectivism is different though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229018 151749101,151771437,2017-12-02 15:38:08,">>151771145 Are you seriously pushing Tekashi69 as some kind of creative genius? I really hope you've only been baiting all along jesus christ, at least post Denzel Curry or something",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229088 151749101,151771455,2017-12-02 15:38:21,">>151770095 Those dictatorships had all the guns though? Also were the greek anarchists actually commies? Or am I mistaken?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229101 151749101,151771523,2017-12-02 15:39:00,">>151771270 Why would they find themselves there if they can leave any time they want for any reason they want?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229140 151749101,151771532,2017-12-02 15:39:05,">>151771145 Im okay with my communities being smaller. If you believe you would outcompete us, then that's fine. I invite you to create/live in the community you want to see and I wish you the best of luck in truly free 'competition' against one another. I would like us to work together to create a society where we could actually freely choose how to live and who to live with.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229145 151749101,151771654,2017-12-02 15:40:27,">>151771130 But all these threads only provide more ammunition for the left and create misguided new fags. Seriously the Chris Cantwell video single handedly demonized libertarians and freedom in general more than anything in recent history.",,Anonymous,chris-cantwell-in-vices-incredible-documentary-race-and-terror.png,fp5LjF3UadKsdI2URG9GDw==,,,1512229227 151749101,151771730,2017-12-02 15:41:24,">>151771654 Then make your own media that doesn't support those views and promote them. The free market of information is a beautiful thing",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229284 151749101,151771889,2017-12-02 15:42:59,">>151771523 Economic reasons. Why do people use drugs in sober living communities or drug rehab centers? Have you ever heard of the 80 20 rule? There is always like 20 percent of people that fuck off. I guess in that hypothetical situation it would just be like in the sober living communities where there is a high turn around. But anyway this is just larping.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229379 151749101,151771989,2017-12-02 15:44:11,">>151771270 It might be a good idea to develop separate strategies for both the left, and right leaning normies.",,Anonymous,1497565039599.jpg,yYBdYuTnlIliWTSYMn4WWA==,US,,1512229451 151749101,151772011,2017-12-02 15:44:27,">>151758454 just kill all the commies and be done with it. stop trying to reason with the left. they get the bullet",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229467 151749101,151772025,2017-12-02 15:44:37,">>151771139 We're in a democracy NOW though? How are *we* going to subvert that?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229477 151749101,151772125,2017-12-02 15:45:38,">>151771889 People use drugs in sober living communities and rehab centers because there's no alternative and they are forced by the state to attend rehab. Economic reasons shouldn't be much of a problem if alternative, more liberal communities exist and also voluntary charities like you yourself described earlier.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229538 151749101,151772169,2017-12-02 15:46:08,">>151771437 I don't even know who that is desu. I just thought it was a funny picture. I do know however that Newton, Einstein (to some degree) and Tesla were all notoriously eccentric, if not addicted to drugs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229568 151749101,151772271,2017-12-02 15:47:10,">>151771532 That's fine and dandy but then what do we do now until the mythical ancapistan is created. And what if we don't get the invite to Elon's Mars party or whatever. And i don't wanna wait for 50 years.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229630 151749101,151772280,2017-12-02 15:47:19,">>151771654 the left would still try to kill us even if we didn't provide them any ammunition. appeasement never works. it only creates bigger losers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229639 151749101,151772414,2017-12-02 15:48:38,">>151771730 We need to start censoring these threads. I could act as reigning supreme mod in command for the time being.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229718 151749101,151772421,2017-12-02 15:48:43,">>151749101 lib rights are chill and okay bump",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229723 151749101,151772444,2017-12-02 15:48:59,">>151771654 I love Chris Cantwell twice as much for his vice controversy. I don't care about courting the left. They are only enemies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512229739 151749101,151772506,2017-12-02 15:49:28,">>151772414 Go fuck yourself faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512229768 151749101,151772538,2017-12-02 15:49:44,">>151772011 the ol' just throw them in the gas chamber meme that would just make you a collectivist then who are we if we have not our morals?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229784 151749101,151772580,2017-12-02 15:50:06,">>151749101 >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. So long as libertarianism holds on to voluntarism, its moral and structural integrity will rest entirely upon the idea that every individual within this society is intelligent enough to maintain and contribute to it. Spoiler alert: they aren't, and especially not so if you can't utilize force in their education.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512229806 151749101,151772687,2017-12-02 15:51:09,">>151772025 Easy. Repeal 17th amendment give power back to the states. Senators were elected by state legislators. States had representation in federal government thus we had a Republic.",,Anonymous,IMG_1013.jpg,vdBTncLcIWgkrFaC5wyKGg==,US,,1512229869 151749101,151772749,2017-12-02 15:51:49,">>151772538 morals only apply when you deal with humans. leftists aren't humans and can be treated like animals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512229909 151749101,151772812,2017-12-02 15:52:24,">>151772580 Depends on what you mean by ""this society"" Any given community may or may not have the right stuff. The ones that don't will be forced to get with it or die, and the ones that do will thrive and supercede.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512229944 151749101,151772934,2017-12-02 15:53:34,">>151772125 Sure but I'm telling you it's not that simple. Even when people have all the choices in the world they'll want to remain with their friends or family or whatever job they feel comfortable at. Maybe it wont be a big problem and manageable but there will ALWAYS be a few individuals getting high. I promise. And you will not be able to find them all because many of them are so good at hiding it. The only reason you don't hear about successful, functional drug addicts is because they are good at hiding it. I know this because a bunch of my friends lived in sober living situations and one friend in particular was taking kratom every day while he lived there and pretended to be sober while attending AA and all that nonsense. He wasn't even court ordered or anything but he was just comfortable where he was and just wanted to use drugs because that's what worked best for him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230014 151749101,151772956,2017-12-02 15:53:50,">>151772812 >and the ones that do will thrive and supercede. The ones that do will be the ones which abandon voluntarism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512230030 151749101,151773166,2017-12-02 15:55:48,">>151772812 Also, I forgot to add that they all need to be of good moral character as well. Taking advantage of people in the absence of laws is profoundly easy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512230148 151749101,151773177,2017-12-02 15:55:57,">>151772280 Okay but there is difference between appeasement, and attraction. I agree that people should live in any community they want but for the time being would it hurt everyone to maybe make some posts on Reddit or /leftypol/ or some other place to try and promote freedom in general?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230157 151749101,151773375,2017-12-02 15:57:59,">>151772749 You know that's what the say about you/us now? The word is GARBAGE HUMAN BEINGS. That is what they call libertarians and conservatives. They equate capitalism with fascism. I blame Chris Cantwell..",,Anonymous,6.jpg,N4DyTLXMIIvMUOOEj1zNZQ==,,,1512230279 151749101,151773427,2017-12-02 15:58:37,">>151772687 legit post",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230317 151749101,151773534,2017-12-02 15:59:34,">>151772934 Well if they're good at hiding it and are functional, productive human beings then that's different. I'm personally all for drugs being used for utilitarian purposes but others might disagree, and they have every right to regardless of what we both think is morally right or wrong. Just let the free market decide",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230374 151749101,151773610,2017-12-02 16:00:22,">>151772687 >17th amendment Wait, I thought senators were good for states rights...? Isn't it better that the populace elects the senators?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230422 151749101,151773739,2017-12-02 16:01:39,">>151772580 AKA PRIVATE FASCISM VIOLENCE IS NECESSARY FOR ""ORDER"" FUCK ME IN THE ASS",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230499 151749101,151773770,2017-12-02 16:01:55,">>151772956 Most of your day-to-day actions transpire on a voluntary basis. Adding involuntary elements only does harm to the average person. >>151773166 Not as easy as taking advantage of people with the presence of laws >See: bureaucracy You don't seem too concerned about the moral character of a government, though. Just another statist with a knee-jerk opinion about a philosophy he's never looked into. No surprises here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512230515 151749101,151773906,2017-12-02 16:03:13,">>151773166 not if they have guns.... and communities work together...",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230593 151749101,151773934,2017-12-02 16:03:30,">>151773739 Ostracizing unsavory individuals in a community is not ""private fascism"" Exercising free association is a necessary element of libertarianism and it doesn't involve force.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512230610 151749101,151774022,2017-12-02 16:04:23,"Question, who owns your corpse in a free society if you haven't given it to someone else as part of a contract or will?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230663 151749101,151774154,2017-12-02 16:05:30,">>151773739 You can't not have violence and greed and have a human society.",,Anonymous,1505746539518.jpg,UKpbOVd/thXvyFJ6W53bmg==,US,,1512230730 151749101,151774157,2017-12-02 16:05:32,">>151773610 The purpose of the senate was so state legislatures have power and it wouldn't break down to absolute democracy a.k.a. mob rule (something the Founders were very wary of) With popular vote on the Senate it just becomes a copy of the House. Now all three branches are subject to the will of the majority which effectively negates any checks/balances between the chambers and executive.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512230732 151749101,151774240,2017-12-02 16:06:17,">>151773534 Thats great until someone has the bright idea of drug testing everyone in the community and throwing out the niggers that dont pass. But then they will only get better at avoiding the tests.. The current situation has created many many many drug addicts that are incredibly cunning when it comes to hiding their addictions. I don't really believe in laws except for stealing and murder and rape but every culture has it's own ethos and sadly we are stilling stewing in the vestigial remnants of puritanism. I know this post was kind of pointless but whatevs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230777 151749101,151774319,2017-12-02 16:06:57,">>151773739 I don't understand, are you agreeing with me? Because if you are, then it's not really libertarianism as far as I see. >Most of your day-to-day actions transpire on a voluntary basis No they don't. I don't get to speed, I don't get to litter, I don't get to expose myself in public, I pay my taxes, I am prevented from engaging in anticompetitive business practices and anticonsumer behavior, etcetera. >Not as easy as taking advantage of people with the presence of laws >See: bureaucracy Explain. The accountability of the government is to the public, not to private interests. I can rely on my judge because I know he likely isn't taking a bribe behind my back. I can't be sure of this in a country without laws made by the people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512230817 151749101,151774475,2017-12-02 16:08:28,">>151773934 Except that you can't actually stop anyone from associating with these individuals without force. You may remove them from your property, but not your society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512230908 151749101,151774488,2017-12-02 16:08:41,">>151752102 Any society that would let you in in the first place is doomed to fall.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1512230921 151749101,151774526,2017-12-02 16:09:11,">>151774319 >>151773770 Forgot to link the other post.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512230951 151749101,151774559,2017-12-02 16:09:31,">>151774157 Do you have any literature references about the founding fathers being wary of mob rule? I believe you but I was just wondering if you had a reference handy? But yeah I would hope that works but isn't there just as big a problem with static bureaucracy? What about a parliament? How can libertarians hack that system of government? Like in Europe..",,Anonymous,,,,,1512230971 151749101,151774592,2017-12-02 16:09:53,"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_principle How is this not just the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1512230993 151749101,151774663,2017-12-02 16:10:35,">>151774488 Such is the dilemma of a frustrated closed-bordertarian.",,Anonymous,1510959412223.jpg,QRhatfuBahUhBlEenH11nw==,US,,1512231035 151749101,151774797,2017-12-02 16:11:51,">>151770403 >Yeah, because kicking literally every non-white person out of your country could be done without long term dictatorship which will inevitably turn into national SOCIALISM. >Implying I ever implied that Nice straw man",,Anonymous,,,,,1512231111 151749101,151774835,2017-12-02 16:12:11,">>151774488 I hear estonia is pretty nice this time of year...",,Anonymous,,,,,1512231131 151749101,151775116,2017-12-02 16:14:59,">>151774592 It seems to be specifically formulated to necessitate a state that enforces it. The non-aggression principle, being much broader, is typically formulated in protest against a state. So yeah, it's just the NAP with a more minarchist/constitutionalist bent.",,Anonymous,無加害公理.png,dVeoZUtnelKx9N5ulh0lmA==,US,,1512231299 151749101,151775159,2017-12-02 16:15:24,">>151774319 Most interpersonal relationships happen on a voluntary basis, that is. Those restrictions you described apply to the minority of your activity. Not to mention that in regards to taxes, business practices, and so-called anticonsumer behavior, those fall into the ""more harm than good"" category. In regards to the accountability of government I think you have too much faith and that's where our differences really lie. Without getting too specific with examples, the government holds a monopoly on the services it provides. This means I as a ""consumer"" have no choice but to pay them and no one else to go to if I'm dissatisfied. With such a structure there is no incentive to improve the service, or to act ethically for that matter. The ""accountability"" you described is really superficial if you look at it that way. That's pretty much the basis for voluntarism. If the judge takes bribes in the present system, it's up to the system, his own team, to decide his punishment. In a voluntary society, the people soliciting that judge's services may simply look elsewhere.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512231324 151749101,151775221,2017-12-02 16:15:56,">>151773934 Well if someone purchased a home in a community then you start changing the rules and kick them out then that is kind of fucked up. Also when you start getting all autistic and trying to control what people do which doesn't directly affect you then you'll inevitably have major conflicts and tyranny. Basically dont be a nigger. And by that I mean let people do whatever they want except steal rape and murder. >>151774154 False. Post Scarcity. Greed isnt so bad. It's desperation and fear which are much much worse. >>151774319 Disagree. It would take people being much smarter and more voluntarily cooperative. Imagine if people were smart enough to colonize the ocean or mars. They might be smart enough not have problem with only basic rules like not stealing and not killing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512231356 151749101,151775384,2017-12-02 16:17:34,">>151775159 >the people soliciting that judge's services may simply look elsewhere. This. That's why we need to balkanize the entire goddamn planet. You know how they say a benevolent dictator would be the best thing? What if there was a sort of market for benevolent dictators?",,Anonymous,Universal Frankenstein - angry mob.jpg,GjlmuGq8JkD6lDxYByihOQ==,,,1512231454 151749101,151775444,2017-12-02 16:18:10,">>151775116 Well it's John Stuart Mill. He's the foundation of classical liberalism, so yeah he's not even minarchist he supports roads.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1512231490 151749101,151775604,2017-12-02 16:19:43,"WHATS THE GAME PLAN GUYS?! CAN WE EVEN ACHIEVE ONE THING IN THE NEXT 6 MONTHS? IF WE WORK TOGETHER WE MIGHT ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING!? ALSO HOW TO HEDGE AGAINST LONE PSYCHOS UNLEASHING HORDES OF NANOBOTS FROM THEIR GARAGE? I NEED ANSWERS NAO EXCUSE THE CAPS!",,*E*N*O*U*G*H* *L*A*R*P*I*N*G*,lauren.jpg,bq5rWLC5wAUnLSUoJt+CWQ==,,,1512231583 151749101,151775612,2017-12-02 16:19:47,">>151775221 >Post scarcity meme Sure anon, get back to me once we got robots mining asteroids near jupiter. I'm sure their owners will distribute money to the people of earth as needed. And I'm sure there won't be cucks trying to free them or pay them wages.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512231587 151749101,151775733,2017-12-02 16:21:10,">>151775604 Again, the only solution is separatism, nothing else will work. That and making well done propaganda images explaining economics and history.",,Anonymous,1493754909032.png,T7hTnwll1F2RIEW5otyr5w==,,,1512231670 151749101,151775827,2017-12-02 16:22:14,">>151774475 You're right, but if I have a problem with somebody theoretically it should be enough to cut them out of my life. Now if things get REALLY bad with an individual and enough people cut them out, then they'll eventually run into no other option than to find greener pastures. >>151774559 I mean it's pretty evident in the manner they structured the original government. You know, with only property holders being able to vote for president and the senate being appointed rather than elected. The popular majority was confined to the House in the original system. I don't know what you mean by ""static bureaucracy"" so I can't answer that. Parliament in modern Europe is an even more direct form of democracy than we've got in the states. Look at this for a general overview from ancap perspective. https://mises.org/library/democracy-coercive",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512231734 151749101,151776014,2017-12-02 16:24:23,"Could we please stop using Discord? I don't want to be the /g/tard here, but it's awful. Might as well use facebook, just look at how much information they collect. I suggest using matrix via riot. Much less information is collected, encryption and as easy to use as discord. OPSEC is important.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512231863 151749101,151776048,2017-12-02 16:24:42,">>151775221 There are no ""rules"" you change I'm talking about an individual decision made across the community. Everyone says to themselves ""Do I like this guy enough to associate?"" and then decides for themselves. You do it every day. It's a pretty basic function of social life. Force isn't involved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512231882 151749101,151776086,2017-12-02 16:25:07,">>151775612 >And I'm sure there won't be cucks trying to free them or pay them wages. what did he mean by this?",,*E*N*O*U*G*H* *L*A*R*P*I*N*G*,main-qimg-cfe783a97c2a826aba889698c2f93d17.png,z+eDqXwqgmq6iJaYwvk9Fw==,,,1512231907 151749101,151776201,2017-12-02 16:26:00,">>151770475 >still got no answer",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1512231960 151749101,151776223,2017-12-02 16:26:11,">>151775159 >those fall into the ""more harm than good"" category. Again, explain. How would trusts and monopolies benefit the majority of the public? How does punishing scammers harm the public? You're far too convinced of the public's ability to do this themselves, despite there being no evidence this has ever worked. >Without getting too specific with examples, the government holds a monopoly on the services it provides. The government is not monolithic, especially in a democracy. I don't think I agree with this. >This means I as a ""consumer"" have no choice but to pay them and no one else to go to if I'm dissatisfied. You can leave the country provided you follow the agreed upon terms of your sentence. If you disliked the trial, you can appeal to another court. >it's up to the system, his own team, to decide his punishment No it isn't. It's up to another judge. Just because you're both government employees doesn't mean you're on the same team in any significant sense. You are both accountable to the same legal structure that they enforce, but nothing beyond this. >In a voluntary society, the people soliciting that judge's services may simply look elsewhere. How are you sure that there WILL actually be an alternative? What if they've formed a monopoly? How are both parties sure that the other isn't just finding a favorable judge? Impartiality is near impossible to establish because there is no check or balance to hold the justice system accountable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512231971 151749101,151776245,2017-12-02 16:26:22,">>151775604 I mean you can work to get occupational licensing removed. Isn't that a classic thing libertarians do?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1512231982 151749101,151776447,2017-12-02 16:28:23,">>151776014 what info do they collect?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512232103 151749101,151776475,2017-12-02 16:28:36,">>151776201 >make law >law says non-whites are not allowed wow so difficult.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512232116 151749101,151776532,2017-12-02 16:29:08,>>151749101,,Anonymous,DPzTjUlU8AEiyFH.jpg,+exfYF2YIvfyOKmxn3FJCw==,,,1512232148 151749101,151776537,2017-12-02 16:29:11,">>151776223 >How would trusts and monopolies benefit the majority of the public? Trusts and monopolies in a free market? lmao what the fuck are you talking about >muh standard oil was le monopoly AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA",,Anonymous,,,,,1512232151 151749101,151776593,2017-12-02 16:29:51,">>151775221 >They might be smart enough not have problem with only basic rules like not stealing and not killing. Only if they were also of good moral character. But before this, how was their intelligence cultivated? This isn't something which usually can happen on its own. People need to be educated, and with force. Imagine a parent which was unable to punish his kid for breaking his rules. Compare children who were brought up with permissive parents and strict parents. You can always go too far in either extreme, but generally speaking, children need discipline. Adults can be allowed greater autonomy, but regularly still need to be kept in line.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232191 151749101,151776679,2017-12-02 16:30:33,">>151776475 Wait how can you pass a law in an ancap society?",,Anonymous,1511811772449.jpg,lJWS6OF2ZOVuDKWoJ3CmjA==,GR,,1512232233 151749101,151776726,2017-12-02 16:30:59,">>151776086 Unless there's another shoa, history repeats anon. Doesn't matter if radio controlled mining equipment isn't human, didn't matter that niggers aren't either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232259 151749101,151776913,2017-12-02 16:32:46,">>151776537 >Trusts and monopolies in a free market? That's right. What stops one company from establishing itself and then beating out the competition. They only need to provide good services to the public so long as they have an alternative which can undercut them. But really, you can even have competitors agree to certain anticonsumer practices for their own benefit. Imagine a situation in which one company owns all mines, for instance. There are only so many mines, so you can't feasibly compete with them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232366 151749101,151777020,2017-12-02 16:33:50,">>151776537 Also I'm unaware of standard oil or why you're bring it up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232430 151749101,151777064,2017-12-02 16:34:17,">>151776679 polycentric law",,Anonymous,,,,,1512232457 151749101,151777101,2017-12-02 16:34:41,">>151776223 consumer advocacy groups just because people haven't been good at it before doesnt mean the government is the best instrument to achieve the same thing for example there are private and public health clinics",,*E*N*O*U*G*H* *L*A*R*P*I*N*G*,,,,,1512232481 151749101,151777148,2017-12-02 16:35:07,">>151770095 i see so many retarded ""libertarian fascists"" advocating for this shit, thinking that we need to become totalitarian to become libertarian. but there's never been a peaceful transition from big government to small government, because the big government never wants to give up their power. completely retarded way of thinking.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512232507 151749101,151777186,2017-12-02 16:35:30,">>151776913 >What stops one company from establishing itself and then beating out the competition. Consumer demand? Also if a company lowers it's prices like crazy because they mass produce shit and become like 90% market share owners. Why is this a problem? They have benefited society in a ginormous way. If they raise their prices, other firms will take their market share.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512232530 151749101,151777240,2017-12-02 16:36:03,">>151776447 https://discordapp.com/privacy they collect a shit ton. from demographics, to what you post. you dont want to trust them. also they already took down a lot of right wing discord groups. >>151776679 anarchy doesn't mean no laws. It means no rulers. It's basically secession to a very high degree. Think of it more like city states, where every city makes their own laws (or they don't and have a lawless society). having laws in a country with millions of people is shit. having small cities and villages with their own rules is okay, because you choose to follow these rules voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512232563 151749101,151777245,2017-12-02 16:36:05,">>151777020 >Also I'm unaware of standard oil or why you're bring it up. It's the typical go to argument against the free market muh monopolies and muh standard oil",,Anonymous,,,,,1512232565 151749101,151777371,2017-12-02 16:37:10,anyone have a list of libertarian books to read?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232630 151749101,151777380,2017-12-02 16:37:16,">>151777101 What keeps advocacy groups from being on the take? What establishes their standards? Which ones does the public listen to? How do advocacy groups get their information on private enterprise? Again, the reliability of such organizations depends entirely on the good character and intelligence of the population, which is never guarunteed, and rarely reliable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232636 151749101,151777532,2017-12-02 16:38:39,">>151777245 I'm doing my best to stick to hypotheticals, because I know libertarians are touchy about calling anything in the real world a product of the free market. It's a bit like 'true communism,' wouldn't you agree?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232719 151749101,151777562,2017-12-02 16:39:02,">>151777380 >What keeps advocacy groups from being on the take? reliance on government competition for the rest a lot of people would get cancer before private industry gets good at this but faggot naysayers like you just keep people in the dark, no offense",,*E*N*O*U*G*H* *L*A*R*P*I*N*G*,,,,,1512232742 151749101,151777666,2017-12-02 16:40:06,">>151777371 of course there are the classics like hoppe and rothbard. if you want a modern take of practical libertarianism, I suggest books about crypto-anarchy. currently reading come and take it by cody wilson.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512232806 151749101,151777853,2017-12-02 16:41:49,">>151777240 I don't think I get this. So who decides the laws? The people in that town vote for the legislators in the elections or something? Aren't the legislators ruling over the people?",,Anonymous,1511813777988.jpg,elrFLtNU9AuZE3TI4H3mZg==,GR,,1512232909 151749101,151777858,2017-12-02 16:41:52,">>151776223 Augh this is getting more thorny and theoretical now but I'll do my best. >Monopoly Competitive markets necessitate winners and losers. A monopoly is a big winner. The way you ""win"" in competition is by crafting a product at a price which a consumer deems worthy of exchange. Therefore, a monopoly only takes control of an industry by generating a reciprocal amount of value for the consumer with their product. I'm being a bit reductive for the sake of expedience but if you want to know more I can find an article for you. >Punishing scammers These folks are committing fraud and there's nothing wrong with punishing them. Unless you're talking about price gougers and things like that, which serve market functions. >The government is not monolithic It is in any given area/jurisdiction. If a police officer in your town shoots a dog without reason and gets a paid vacation for it, tough shit. There's no other service to render, even if there are folks who could do it more competently. Regarding the federal government, that goes for the whole nation. The IRS writes its own law, enforces it, and tries people in its own bureaucratic courts. That's the case for the whole land. If you don't like it, tough shit. >you can appeal to another court. A higher court, sure. But if you've got a suit against the state itself, if you're trying to check their power, you won't find much better treatment. >you're both government employees doesn't mean you're on the same team Setting a legal precedent has widespread implications and there is DEFINITELY a conflict of interest in that regard. It is in every bureaucrat's best interest to expand their power and so they'll do what they can to help their friends. Not invariably, but far more often than not. >What if they've formed a monopoly? There would be, by definition, free entry and exit. Even in a monopolistic scenario, there's no one forcing people to pay. If a service isn't doing bad, it makes a market for replacement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232912 151749101,151777985,2017-12-02 16:42:56,">>151776223 Regarding concerns about how a legal system would work in a voluntary society you should check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gphKVhnwREc I know an hour-long video is a tall order but Dr. Murphy does an excellent job with laying out the inner workings of the system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232976 151749101,151778009,2017-12-02 16:43:10,">>151777562 >reliance on government >competition for the rest Use full sentences please, I don't know the point you're trying to make here. >a lot of people would get cancer before private industry gets good at this Why do you think they would ever be good at it? How do they become good at it? You fellows have this strange notion that demand and competition just automatically makes people better at something over time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512232990 151749101,151778459,2017-12-02 16:47:34,">>151777853 it could be democratic. it could be technocratic. or a monarchy. or lawless. it could even be socialist. of course a socialist society would fail, but that is somewhat the point. the open market of societies. the good ones will prevail and the bad ones fail. you only need to be able to leave the society if you dont like the rules, and have access to guns to kill a possible dictatorship. some ancaps might think diferently, but thats how I see it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512233254 151749101,151779022,2017-12-02 16:53:23,">>151758078 dont fuck with my no fap good damn it",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1512233603 151749101,151779057,2017-12-02 16:53:45,">>151777858 >Competitive markets necessitate winners and losers. A monopoly is a big winner. Sure, but once they're the only one in the game, in many industries they can stop any competition from arising. Once they're established as a monopoly, they get to determine the price of their product, not the public. People don't always have the option of not buying in the absence of an alternative, either. >If a police officer in your town shoots a dog without reason and gets a paid vacation for it, tough shit. If a police officer shoots your dog, you can take him to court. If the police aren't doing their job, then the executive and legislative branches can impose new regulations, remove old ones, or place new appointees and get rid of old ones. >The IRS writes its own law, enforces it, and tries people in its own bureaucratic courts No it doesn't, the legislative branches write tax law, and the IRS enforces it with either a high degree of autonomy (in the case of high political confidence), or low autonomy (if confidence is not high). >But if you've got a suit against the state itself, if you're trying to check their power, you won't find much better treatment. You'll find friends in the legislative branch or possibly in the constitution. If less government is what the public desires, it's what the legislative branch will likely reflect. >It is in every bureaucrat's best interest to expand their power and so they'll do what they can to help their friends. But not in every legislator's best interests. They're accountable to their voters. >There would be, by definition, free entry and exit. Even in a monopolistic scenario, there's no one forcing people to pay. If a service isn't doing bad, it makes a market for replacement. The other questions in that part of the post were more important. How is their impartiality guarunteed?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512233625 151749101,151779942,2017-12-02 17:02:11,">>151778459 Right, the only thing that's sure is that damn near everyone has to agree to it. Even should you be able to establish such a large consensus, the possibility of paralell societies arising in such a scenario is unbelievably high. Nothing is in place which stops these agreements from fragmenting and breaking down. In order for anything like a voluntary democracy, monarchy, or technocracy to work, there needs to be an incredibly uniform population. So in reality, you're going to get lawlessness. If you believe in ethnic homogeneity and moral uprightness, libertarianism is simply not a realistic option on any scale of note.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512234131 151749101,151780297,2017-12-02 17:05:36,">>151777858 >>151779057 The problem is when monopolies exist, on inelastic goods. They can even exist outside of the libertarian country. The classic example was OPEC, it was a huge concern for a long time, they spiked the price of gasoline, and it took 50 years after their foundation to find a solution, in Fracking.",,Anonymous,think.gif,fiBvqsoHyx40WPBUJLXD4g==,CA,,1512234336 151749101,151780822,2017-12-02 17:10:36,">>151779057 >in many industries they can stop any competition from arising. I don't see how this could possibly be the case. At Rockefeller's peak he own ~80% of the industry, there was still competition. By the time he was broken up he owned ~60% market share because he had been lagging behind in many respects. There's no real way to enforce a monopoly in a free market, the historical record shows that pretty clearly. Setting that question aside, and more to the point though, government regulation in this regard doesn't really eliminate the presence of monopolies so much as give it the privilege of deciding which may operate and which may not. This is exercised very dangerously. Take Rockefeller for example, again. He was broken up with a non-monopolistic market share, while JP Morgan's billion-dollar trust was allowed to remain in business. When you consider the fact that Morgan was thanked at Teddy Roosevelt's victory dinner as the man to whom TR owed the vice presidency, things are put into perspective. >you can take him to court But again, what's the incentive for a fellow state employee to bring them to justice? They're paid either way (through coercive taxes) and there's no competition to go to if the people are dissatisfied with the service. It would take a profound sense of altruism to limit state power with no incentive, which mind you, is precisely the criticism you leveled against libertarianism. >the legislative branches write tax law Most of that legislation is spirited law where the IRS actually writes the specific codes. Maybe it isn't exactly the best example but you still go to tax courts. The DEA would be a better example of what I was going for, and there are plenty more agencies which exercise such a high degree of autonomy. Anyway, the point remains that federal law encompasses the whole land and IS monolithic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512234636 151749101,151780844,2017-12-02 17:10:51,">>151780297 >The problem is when monopolies exist, on inelastic goods Absolutely. However, in a system with a state, you have a realistic political option to break up that monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512234651 151749101,151781163,2017-12-02 17:14:24,">>151749101 >libertarianism >force choose one, you dumbass",,Anonymous,,,,,1512234864 151749101,151781226,2017-12-02 17:15:11,">>151749101 >We advise you research the basics before asking. Seems like you do not even understand the basics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512234911 151749101,151781355,2017-12-02 17:16:38,">>151779057 >You'll find friends in the legislative branch There's not a single congressman I feel represents me or cares about my interests >possibly in the constitution Good joke. Hasn't been relevant in decades. >But not in every legislator's best interests Oh but it certainly is. More money and power, who wouldn't want that? Accountability to voters means practically nothing in a two-party system with gerrymandering. Pic related. >How is their impartiality guarunteed? Mutual agreement between the two parties seeking arbitration. Also they'd ""need"" to be fair in order to keep their practice open, a corrupt judge wouldn't last very long in a free market system. That video I linked to addresses it in detail. I'll turn the tables on you now, what's the check on the present justice system? As far as I can tell it only comes from within the same system they're operating in. That's no check at all.",,Anonymous,reelectionrateschart.jpg,eKpwKXUuLqyUou7WqQJfYw==,US,,1512234998 151749101,151781463,2017-12-02 17:17:58,What would happen if AnCapistan was invaded by a foreign force?,,Anonymous,1488774930759.jpg,eRJvmmQKqYQhpJd5Ng9CcQ==,US,,1512235078 151749101,151781597,2017-12-02 17:19:28,">>151752102 No dude, the answer is much simpler: create group, find land, buy it, stop working and pay taxes, live off the land.",,Anonymous,freedom.jpg,ejDJEQ4DNl26dxTejsbKcw==,,,1512235168 151749101,151781686,2017-12-02 17:20:25,"Who is best equipped to navigate the free-market? Libertarianism is Jewish.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512235225 151749101,151781731,2017-12-02 17:20:54,">>151758454 >this",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235254 151749101,151781761,2017-12-02 17:21:16,">>151779942 you dont get the point. the us has millions of people. 49 percents have to obey 51 percent. this is the reason why democracy on a large scale is shit. now image beeing able to choose which society you want to be a part of instead of beeing forced into one. and this society is not millions of people big. it will probably be 1 - a few thousand people. >If you believe in ethnic homogeneity and moral uprightness then you will be a part of a society with these ideals. you dont force these ideas onto others. let them destroy themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235276 151749101,151781813,2017-12-02 17:21:46,">>151772749 >>151772011 You sir are an idiot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235306 151749101,151781843,2017-12-02 17:22:03,">>151781163 Libertarianism allows force, if and only if it's retaliatory against a first initiated one. >>151781226 The physical removal of leftist doesn't violate human rights, as leftist aren't humans. basic stuff",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235323 151749101,151781873,2017-12-02 17:22:23,">>151780822 You would agree the government has a monopoly on the use of force in every practical sense, yes? If monopolies can't ever actually form, how did this happen? On the subject of the U.S. and its history with monopolies, I'm merely going to point out the the U.S. is a very functional system. Could it be better? Of course. Do we have any example of the kind of system which you would aggrandize? I'm afraid not. This is what my argument is going to come down to when discussing any real life examples. Comparing a hypothetical ideal system to a real one is unfair. Communism sounds great on paper to a lot of people too. >But again, what's the incentive for a fellow state employee to bring them to justice? They're paid either way (through coercive taxes) They'll be paid for a little while, but they very well might lose their office if the public isn't satisfied. >It would take a profound sense of altruism to limit state power with no incentive, which mind you, is precisely the criticism you leveled against libertarianism. Just a public which desires it. And yes, it takes the same kind of altruism, however, I would say that limiting the power of the federal government isn't necessarily desirable, and it certainly isn't necessary for the system to be functional at all. In terms of function, I think effective government tends to be a balancing act between what autonomy you give to the public and what you take away. The solution for a given population isn't necessarily the solution for another. There are places in which democracy is simply infeasible and the public cannot at all be trusted with it as well. >The DEA would be a better example of what I was going for, and there are plenty more agencies which exercise such a high degree of autonomy. Which can always be reigned in by the public. In fact it happens to many bureaucracies just about every time there is a majority switch in the legislative branches. cont...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512235343 151749101,151781921,2017-12-02 17:23:00,">>151780822 >Anyway, the point remains that federal law encompasses the whole land and IS monolithic. But the people MAKING and ENFORCING that law are not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512235380 151749101,151781958,2017-12-02 17:23:26,">>151781843 Yes exactly and not the >PHYSICAL REMOVAL DUR DUR of others",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235406 151749101,151782051,2017-12-02 17:24:29,">>151781843 Sure retard, other people aren't human. Go play with the other collectivist retards in the kiddie pool.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235469 151749101,151782157,2017-12-02 17:25:34,">>151781597 stop working and stop paying taxes, of course",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235534 151749101,151782216,2017-12-02 17:26:15,">>151781463 Nothing prevents libertarian nations to have a voluntary army, dude",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235575 151749101,151782269,2017-12-02 17:26:53,">>151781958 Two arguments in support of physical removal: 1) a. The advocation of criminal offenses allows a retaliatory force. b. Communism is the criminal offense of theft. c. Communists can thus be defended against with physical removal. 2) a. Only people who believe in human rights (property rights) can have them themselves. b. Communist don't believe in these rights, and thus can't have them. c. Therefore communist, since they don't have human rights, are not humans.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235613 151749101,151782295,2017-12-02 17:27:11,">>151781355 >There's not a single congressman I feel represents me or cares about my interests Because the public doesn't care enough about it. >Good joke. Hasn't been relevant in decades. What in the god damn are you talking about? >Oh but it certainly is. More money and power, who wouldn't want that? Legislators. They just want the money and maybe fame. Legislators have a habit of avoiding responsibility actually. If a law doesn't end up working, they often times prefer just to say that it was the agency's fault, or that regulating or enforcing this law is infeasible and it's not their fault. >Mutual agreement between the two parties seeking arbitration. Alright you two, who can pay me the most? >a corrupt judge wouldn't last very long in a free market system only if the people using his services are aware that he's corrupt. >what's the check on the present justice system? The legislative branch. The executive branch. Appointment and lawmaking powers. Did you not make it through primary school?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512235631 151749101,151782499,2017-12-02 17:29:07,">>151782051 Emphasis on the libertarian-RIGHT general.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235747 151749101,151782541,2017-12-02 17:29:44,">>151768464 I am sure he is just retarded and knows when to be extra retarded when the camera is on him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235784 151749101,151782701,2017-12-02 17:31:32,">>151749101 >MORAL DEGRADATION I will morally degrade myself all I want, dickhead. That is my choice when I enjoy freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235892 151749101,151782776,2017-12-02 17:32:27,">>151782701 then do it, but not on our property",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235947 151749101,151782818,2017-12-02 17:32:50,">>151782499 There is no libertarian right or left. There is only freedom, bitch.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512235970 151749101,151782894,2017-12-02 17:33:52,">>151782776 Of course, that is more than reasonable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512236032 151749101,151782908,2017-12-02 17:34:03,"By the way, do you think that we got bigger over the past few years? 3 years ago nobody knew what AnCapism was. Nowadays I see a lot of AnCap channells on youtube, music and more people in general. Feels good to have a growing organic movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512236043 151749101,151782989,2017-12-02 17:35:02,">>151782818 Right as in right-wing social/moral/family values (e.g. paleolibertarianism)",,Anonymous,,,,,1512236102 151749101,151783196,2017-12-02 17:37:17,">>151782269 >The autism is strong in this one Communists are no threat if you only allow government to exist on a voluntary basis and live by the rule that others are not allowed to infringe on your right to freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512236237 151749101,151783223,2017-12-02 17:37:35,">>151781873 >If monopolies can't ever actually form, how did this happen? By the barrel of a gun, by definition. I'm not saying monopolies can't form, I'm saying they can't form WITHOUT that element of coercion. In fact, prior to the progressive era the working definition of ""monopoly"" was a company which the government gave exclusive operation privilege to. >Do we have any example of the kind of system which you would aggrandize? Well we have things more libertarian and less libertarian and a pretty clear-cut correlation of rate-of-growth and prosperity. I'd rather have the early American/British system of minarchism than what we've got now, and it's not much of a leap to say going further than that would magnify the positives which come with it. There are sound principles which state individualism/free market necessarily work better, and I'm merely being all-inclusive and logically consistent in applying them everywhere. >Which can always be reigned in by the public Name me the last time there's been a major regression in government power. It has been a unilateral march toward more and more encroachment for at least a hundred and fifty years. Any example you're thinking of is small potatoes compared to the major leaps forward. >Because the public doesn't care enough about it. That's still a point in my favor. Why should my life be dictated by the representatives of an apathetic population? Why is that a rationale for their pillaging of my property? Voluntarism would be a much better system than that. >What in the god damn are you talking about? It's true and you must know it. You'd be hard-pressed to find any federal powers exercised today which are authorized by the constitution. It's thrown out whenever seen convenient. ""To Hell with the Constitution!"" -Teddy Roosevelt >they often times prefer just to say that it was the agency's fault That's just them having their cake and eating it too. All the power and money with none of the blame.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512236255 151749101,151783347,2017-12-02 17:38:55,">all these shitcap libertine faggots i take comfort knowing your cities will fall to barbarian invasion remember, we warned you",,TPM,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1512236335 151749101,151783371,2017-12-02 17:39:06,">>151782989 >Enforcing social/moral/family values on others >Libertarianism Choose one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512236346 151749101,151783391,2017-12-02 17:39:22,">>151783196 what about ideological fascists? Are they no threat to your property/",,Anonymous,,,,,1512236362 151749101,151783591,2017-12-02 17:41:34,">>151783371 >he fell for the consumerism is society meme",,TPM,,,,,1512236494 151749101,151783601,2017-12-02 17:41:38,">>151783371 Never implied they had to be forced. /lrg/ advocates a private covenant/society with right-wing social values. You can be a degenerate anywhere apart from on my property. See >>151783347",,Anonymous,,,,,1512236498 151749101,151783607,2017-12-02 17:41:41,">>151783223 Monopolies only come into being because government allows them to exist. Microsoft in the 80s were a monopoly of sorts but they did offer an affordable OS. If they made the price to steep they would allow competitors to step into the pricing space.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512236501 151749101,151783685,2017-12-02 17:42:33,">>151782295 >Alright you two, who can pay me the most? You've got to be kidding. Who the fuck would go to a judge like that? >only if the people using his services are aware that he's corrupt And they'd have competitors looming always looking to expose them, that's the point. You could say the same thing for bureaucrats, except when they're exposed it's like pulling teeth trying to get anything done about it. Any criticism you could whip out for voluntarism can be applied doubly so to statism. >The government is in charge of regulating itself This is just proving my point, yet again. On it's face it's so obviously doomed for failure, I don't know how you can't see it. They all have the same skin in the game, they're all looking to increase their power. It's broken, dude. You're willfully ignorant to all the corruption and theft that your state is getting away with. Hell you're even defending it. You've got no right to insult me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512236553 151749101,151783843,2017-12-02 17:44:10,>>151776532,,Anonymous,1503962203072.png,aX49el4Vl4itokoEAZIhww==,,,1512236650 151749101,151783933,2017-12-02 17:45:13,">>151783601 Allright, I can understand that. Although I seriously doubt that your covenant will not turn into collectivist or even totalitarian one in a very short amount of time. You see, who will determine what social values are the good ones or not?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512236713 151749101,151784091,2017-12-02 17:46:51,">>151783223 >I'm saying they can't form WITHOUT that element of coercion. I think you need to demonstrate why violence is a competition which is different from any other. Of course you are permanently removing your competition, but by your argument, this shouldn't prevent other competitors from arising, no? In the same way you can kill a man for rebellion, you can snuff out the competition by making their business infeasible. You have the resources to spare to run unprofitable businesses merely to do this. You can sell products at a loss, buy up primary resources, run smear campaigns. If you're well entrenched enough, it should be quite easy. >Name me the last time there's been a major regression in government power. ""Always can be,"" doesn't mean ""ever will."" If the authority in a democratic government only increases over time, then it necessarily means that the majority of the public finds these changes amenable at least (if not desirable). >Why should my life be dictated by the representatives of an apathetic population? Because there isn't a realistic alternative, and in the end it really isn't so bad. >All the power and money with none of the blame. All of the money at least, they really don't like the power. That means responsibility. Don't confuse power with prestige.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512236811 151749101,151784263,2017-12-02 17:48:47,">>151783933 social cohesion is always important in you read my post that was linked in the comment you are replying too, you will see that we would have a common ethnic group, with a common religion, that would form our society and would ensure we all have the same values, freedom is subjective, the freedom of white christians, is different from the freedom of blacks, or the freedom of latinos, the freedom of the french is not the freedom of the spanish, etc, etc.",,TPM,,,,,1512236927 151749101,151784292,2017-12-02 17:49:06,">>151783933 The western culture, right-wing social values and traditional family are the ideals liberty was created by. https://radicalcapitalist.org/2017/07/30/why-libertarianism-is-unique-to-the-west/ https://radicalcapitalist.org/2017/07/30/the-relationship-between-race-culture-and-a-libertarian-social-order/",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1512236946 151749101,151784600,2017-12-02 17:52:07,">>151783685 >And they'd have competitors looming always looking to expose them, that's the point. And they'd be open to accusations of corruption themselves. You wouldn't be able to determine the truth because it would all be a commercial venture designed for profit. Every player has a motive to corruption. You would have to trust the public to be smart enough to know which ones are authentic, and when they stop being so. Which is unrealistic. >The government is in charge of regulating itself The actual composition of the government is in one way or another always the result of the public appointing its representatives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512237127 151870016,151870016,2017-12-03 11:59:46,"""Libertarianism will win eventually because it and only it is compatible with the nature of man and of the world. Only liberty can achieve man’s prosperity, fulfillment, and happiness. In short, libertarianism will win because it is true, because it is the correct policy for mankind, and truth will eventually win out"" This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_rebellion_tyrants_obedience_god.png,QE3FUwRKFDop4/S6ISmacA==,GB,,1512302386 151870016,151870140,2017-12-03 12:01:04,Thoughts on sexy lolis /lrg/?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512302464 151870016,151870475,2017-12-03 12:04:22,">>151870140 Go fuck yourself sicko.",,Anonymous,The_Family_Full-1.png,CBwhYh4z7kc8lqDhV7HmLw==,US,,1512302662 151870016,151870496,2017-12-03 12:04:36,">>151870140 Get out. You are no longer welcome in /lrg/ or its Discord server",,Anonymous,Born to remove.png,yp/6grI6jZPtJVzq6PmGlw==,,,1512302676 151870016,151870551,2017-12-03 12:05:11,">>151870475 Do you have the three page version?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512302711 151870016,151870581,2017-12-03 12:05:33,>>151870140,,Anonymous,1510380593036.jpg,P7yi+etFCaU6RrLXQnJGZg==,US,,1512302733 151870016,151870591,2017-12-03 12:05:37,">>151870016 libertarian and right used to be the opposite sides i miss those days t. reactionary",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1512302737 151870016,151871017,2017-12-03 12:09:56,"Libertarian dogs, get out of the way of TRUE freedom.",,Anonymous,IMG_2030.png,zfAhJRvYWdhBmRm0JkoYbg==,,,1512302996 151870016,151871184,2017-12-03 12:11:37,">>151870551 No, but I have the third page.",,Anonymous,Dignity.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,,,1512303097 151870016,151871193,2017-12-03 12:11:41,">>151870591 How can the ends of perpendicular axes be ""opposite sides"" to one another?",,Anonymous,Political_chart.svg.png,1kwmKYecsRQNTToArPXiNg==,US,,1512303101 151870016,151871246,2017-12-03 12:12:08,>>151871017,,Anonymous,t7p.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1512303128 151870016,151871327,2017-12-03 12:12:58,">>151871193 faggotgay",,Anonymous,,,,,1512303178 151870016,151871356,2017-12-03 12:13:15,">>151870581 You swallowed the hook pal. I'm not the last guy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512303195 151870016,151872829,2017-12-03 12:26:54,">>151870140 Wasn't Cycle.",,Anonymous,file.png,RIw3FHeeuxibZ1B/PF4jfg==,US,,1512304014 151870016,151874056,2017-12-03 12:38:58,">>151871017 >being totally enslaved by the state is true freedom Why do you people even exist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512304738 151870016,151875988,2017-12-03 12:59:13,">>151870016 NEETSOCS get the bullet too",,Anonymous,1509652776130.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1512305953 151870016,151876812,2017-12-03 13:07:43,">>151870016 Bumped for truth I'm enjoying the libertarian threads",,Anonymous,1507607527811.jpg,oR+AV61huVeg2t7AqHdFiw==,US,,1512306463 151870016,151877853,2017-12-03 13:17:50,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,fascist_pepe.jpg,mJryaAthakth6JtrfZUlSA==,NL,,1512307070 151870016,151878421,2017-12-03 13:23:31,">>151877853 >commies >right lmao",,Anonymous,,,,,1512307411 151870016,151878838,2017-12-03 13:27:24,What are /lrg/ honest thoughts on fascism?,,Anonymous,1498266228476.jpg,9QvQLBMFSKthD8aRYgjvvw==,CO,,1512307644 151870016,151879085,2017-12-03 13:29:37,">>151878838 Better than socialism but still shitty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512307777 151870016,151879706,2017-12-03 13:35:17,">>151878838 christian values nuclear family and active local communities cannot be reached trought coercion, theft, kidnapping and murdering trought the state (aka politics) >inmoral >violent >arrogant >unexpected negative consequences >can't be sustained >no limits to state growth ancaps can share some goals, but the means to get there are >90iq for fascism",,Anonymous,,,,,1512308117 151870016,151880015,2017-12-03 13:37:52,">>151870016 Libertarianism is inevitable as our societies evolve more individuals will become intellectual rather than emotional. It is an undeniable natural destination of society.",,Anonymousz,,,DK,,1512308272 151870016,151880162,2017-12-03 13:39:13,">>151879706 >share goals they are polar opposites. fascism has nothing to do with utopian materialism",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512308353 151870016,151880243,2017-12-03 13:39:55,Did Pinochet do anything wrong?,,Anonymous,,,,,1512308395 151870016,151880414,2017-12-03 13:41:37,">>151878838 christian values nuclear family and active local communities no commies cannot be reached AND SUSTAINED trought coercion, theft, kidnapping and murdering trought the state (aka politics), without civil warmonguering, international warmonguering >inmoral >violent >arrogant >unexpected negative consequences (high taxation,fraudulent pensions system, expropiation of property and bussinesses, print money for the gov.) >can't be sustained >no limits to state growth ancaps can share some goals, but the means to get there are radical opposites, one is retarded, the other perspective matchs how reality works; creative actions; entrepeneurial creativity, ie decentralizing problem solving = markets = private rules = private property = voluntary associations = cooperation",,Anonymous,,,,,1512308497 151870016,151880663,2017-12-03 13:44:03,">>151880162 fascist goverments still have done massive fraud/theft/looting to their population to get whatever nonsense done That's the basic foundations of any goverment, the means to do stupid shit are evil and dumb as fuck",,Anonymous,,,,,1512308643 151870016,151881024,2017-12-03 13:47:20,">>151880663 any arguments besides unsourced claims",,Anonymous,Italia.png,Pr+GRgb5SvbaeozEtUiqww==,NL,,1512308840 151870016,151881062,2017-12-03 13:47:43,">>151880243 Once he had his little chat with Friedman, he was pretty good. I'm to understand he was an illiterate protectionist before then, however.",,Anonymous,Pinochetian Economy.png,MyP2I9bLOJrVQRQ3T0dLJA==,US,,1512308863 151870016,151881353,2017-12-03 13:50:30,">>151881062 his only problem he wasn't free market enough what year did the chicago boys go there and make his liberalize the market?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512309030 151870016,151881638,2017-12-03 13:53:08,">>151881353 His wiki page says he decided on liberalization around 1975. Funny enough, that ends up being the lowest trough on the graph.",,Anonymous,encienden los rotores.jpg,tf4xE2AjVUsbWZ3ZK39ahQ==,US,,1512309188 151870016,151881792,2017-12-03 13:54:37,">>151881638 most of the policies didn't get inplemented until the mid 80s though either way he didn't liberalize that much because their copper industry was still nationalized",,Anonymous,,,,,1512309277 151870016,151881878,2017-12-03 13:55:23,yay /lrg/ time,,Anonymous,remove a commie for da pure 2d love.png,SNHlfoth/DbIelzhxRrm1g==,,,1512309323 151870016,151881957,2017-12-03 13:56:09,">>151870591 While this is true, the reason for it was that liberalism fundamentally wants to dissociate from the whatever the current reigning order is. If it's natural hierarchy and tradition liberals want the freedom to be secular and individualist, if its absolute degeneracy and nihilism liberals want the freedom to live without it polluting their lives. And yes liberal and libertarian can be used interchangeably in this sense.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1512309369 151870016,151882288,2017-12-03 13:59:38,">>151881878 >he doesnt understand the japanese and their reverence for the emperor and their hate of capitalism goes against everything libertarian this board makes me feel like a fukcing genuis from time to time. but i know im and idiot, you guys are just on another level",,Anonymous,kimitake.jpg,JKEu9blkWACrWPKYws0dNg==,NL,,1512309578 151870016,151882510,2017-12-03 14:01:47,">>151882288 >implying libertarians wouldn't submit to the emperor",,Anonymous,mugicake.jpg,A76HPGPlHulF7UohXALU6w==,,,1512309707 151870016,151882810,2017-12-03 14:04:45,">>151876812 wtf",,Anonymous,Screenshot from 2017-12-03 20-04-22.png,KE45sESL+lfgzY2NuZ7Siw==,DK,,1512309885 151870016,151882832,2017-12-03 14:04:56,">>151882510 im implying that yes",,Anonymous,hiraoka.jpg,tyoLprusTa68/MqmMcv+ew==,NL,,1512309896 151870016,151883033,2017-12-03 14:06:42,">>151882288 >hatred for capitalism even back then they embraced markets",,Anonymous,,,,,1512310002 151870016,151883120,2017-12-03 14:07:28,">>151882832 well, we will see, but as it is now Right libertarians are the best allies, or would you prefer those cryptosocialists of the new right?",,Anonymous,democracy.jpg,GqAPWBHnQSf4/JcO7TwqaQ==,,,1512310048 151870016,151883200,2017-12-03 14:08:20,">>151881024 I'm spanish",,Anonymous,,,,,1512310100 151870016,151883246,2017-12-03 14:08:47,FREE MARKET DESU,,Anonymous,P9T8zaeb_400x400.jpg,SRpWfcsFUgs+mT2xAy8UFA==,,,1512310127 151870016,151883316,2017-12-03 14:09:32,">>151883033 people in Europe doesn't think about capitalism as an absent of a system, they think it is an economical system with blueprints how to install and run it. so most of them just equals the term with degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512310172 151870016,151883603,2017-12-03 14:12:10,">>151882288 >882288 >but i know im and idiot >and idiot how?",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1512310330 151870016,151883636,2017-12-03 14:12:29,">>151881024 Please find the sources to the following claim: ""2+2=4"" Odd that you'd call us materialists when your shitty empiricism depends on material in the first place.",,Anonymous,lrg discord robo welfare right wing.jpg,+OaT9QY7rGsaqeWvj0RhoQ==,,,1512310349 151870016,151883698,2017-12-03 14:13:08,">>151882288 >reverence for the emperor and their hate of capitalism Alright, I'll bite. Can you show me proof that the japanese political majority, at any point in recent history, both revered the emperor and hated free markets?",,Anonymous,断頭.jpg,4aDMhUZ32Bn1tBAqgo6srQ==,US,,1512310388 151870016,151883756,2017-12-03 14:13:45,">>151883033 >they otoya was not your average jap, japanese society of the last decades is a disgrace https://youtu.be/jr-P8snKXcc >>151883120 libertarians are not ""right"" >>151883200 so?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512310425 151870016,151883909,2017-12-03 14:15:12,">>151883756 >libertarians are not ""right"" yes we are",,Anonymous,,,,,1512310512 151870016,151884109,2017-12-03 14:17:09,">>151883756 >libertarians are not ""right"" they are more right than every ""right"" wing movement in europe and not only on the economical part they are on the right way, just come more often to those threads, /lrg/ is good but I agree that your common libertarian needs to be deported.",,Anonymous,pho4.jpg,jxqaFQp2x/wcnTPEdpYSbg==,,,1512310629 151870016,151884124,2017-12-03 14:17:18,">>151883756 Fascism has described itself as ""third position"". Since our ideology is the only one to take the laws of the universe, not the constructs of man, into consideration, we are the ones on the Right and have little concern for your socialist den of degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512310638 151870016,151884438,2017-12-03 14:20:11,">>151884109 Any libertarian who supports democracy is living in a contradiction. Since 99% of the population is just highly intelligent cattle, though, they'll bend to any system that is offered to them with force. Since we have an ethical justification for our expansionist policy, which is in line with the natural order, I see no problem in crushing those who would seek to undermine our efforts.",,Anonymous,hoppe free good vs pest vs malicious intent.png,nlOd0aD96iDkbfLfHX4/lA==,,,1512310811 151870016,151884593,2017-12-03 14:21:32,">>151884438 >Since we have an ethical justification for our expansionist policy, which is in line with the natural order, I see no problem in crushing those who would seek to undermine our efforts. that's the spirit",,Anonymous,spqr.jpg,t/HF5HFimt4SEkE6ryfShg==,,,1512310892 151870016,151884744,2017-12-03 14:22:46,">>151883698 define recent please >>151883909 >>151884109 insisting that a revolutionary materialistic ideology is somehow reactionary is a bit absurd >>151884124 >laws of the universe individualism is the law of the universe, damn never knew that",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512310966 151870016,151884774,2017-12-03 14:23:00,">>151884124 >Since our ideology is the only one to take the laws of the universe, not the constructs of man, into consideration *tips fedora*",,Anonymous,,,,,1512310980 151870016,151884862,2017-12-03 14:23:43,">>151884744 >materialistic >muh materialism you sound like a commie there's nothing wrong with materialism",,Anonymous,,,,,1512311023 151870016,151884909,2017-12-03 14:24:09,">>151884744 1900 and later.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512311049 151870016,151884914,2017-12-03 14:24:13,">>151884744 >individualism That's the vaguest term in the history of mankind. Anything that is not strictly defined should not be used in serious debate, and anyone relying on shifting their definitions is doomed to fail.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512311053 151870016,151885025,2017-12-03 14:25:16,">>151884774 Not an argument >>151884862 Hah",,Anonymous,1493574901760.gif,X/DCEhfYBuHDQGuxUOw72Q==,RO,,1512311116 151870016,151885077,2017-12-03 14:25:42,">>151870016 Someone explain to me how age of consent works in a Libertarian society? Who has the right to tell you not to have sex with a child?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512311142 151870016,151885268,2017-12-03 14:27:21,">>151884774 Not to burst your bubble, but if materialism was our goal, living like cattle under someone who could satisfy our wants would fit that definition. Utilitarianism must be exposed for the joke it is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512311241 151870016,151885284,2017-12-03 14:27:26,">>151884744 you are the one thinking in a materialistic way, nobody of those guys is materialistic and if you weren't a materialist yourself you would see it. and to live your life to the fullest you have a natural desire for materialistic and spiritual needs to be fullfilled. alone the fact that you want to build a house and accumulate some capital for your future generation is on a way higher spiritual level than, screaming about muh materialism, muh capitalism, why should I care when I can always use the welfare state to pay for my degenerate offspring",,Anonymous,1341785206395.jpg,8JtMGmC/aTh0KG1fQ5l2pw==,,,1512311246 151870016,151885364,2017-12-03 14:28:17,">>151885077 >Someone explain to me how age of consent works in a Libertarian society? like in europe before there were laws about it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512311297 151870016,151885471,2017-12-03 14:29:18,">>151885077 If you need to have a gun held to your head to prevent you from diddling kids, your low personal quality would see you wiped off the face of the Earth through your own poor decisions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512311358 151870016,151885562,2017-12-03 14:30:15,">>151884744 >materialistic ideology A free society generates low-time preferences, and thus people become less materialistic (less consumerism.)",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1512311415 151870016,151885685,2017-12-03 14:31:18,">>151870016 >Libertarianism is the right choice because I believe it is the right choice. 1) Organized collectives > collection of individuals 2) More cohesive collectives > less cohesive collectives 3) Ethnically homogeneous collectives are more cohesive than non-ethnically homogeneous ones, and a foundation of ethnicity is the ONLY foundation that is guaranteed to be passed to the next generation. You can't guarantee that your children will share your philosophy, politics, interests, or anything else except your genes. 4) That said, a meritocracy within a homogeneous, cohesive collective that allows the most competent individuals to assume positions of leadership is obviously desirable.",,Anonymous,consider_the_following_horse.jpg,EdbZu5t2ufqXkhgYtVKl2A==,US,,1512311478 151870016,151885688,2017-12-03 14:31:20,">>151885364 Before there were laws about it people did it and got away with it, especially if they were wealthy. Child prostitution was a bigger industry in London than in Thailand or Brazil. Why would that be a good thing?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512311480 151870016,151885699,2017-12-03 14:31:26,">>151885364 You can also say, like in america before the jew funded feminists",,TPM,,,,,1512311486 151870016,151885751,2017-12-03 14:31:56,">>151870016 >>151870140 >>151870496 >>151870496 >>151883120 >>151883246 fuck this server, they kick you for having opposing opinions",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512311516 151870016,151885810,2017-12-03 14:32:36,">>151885025 your entire thing isn't an argument how is your ideology in line with the laws of the universe? You sound like a batshit insane cultist also there's nothing inherently wrong with materialism",,Anonymous,,,,,1512311556 151870016,151885848,2017-12-03 14:32:52,">>151885077 kids cannot consent",,Anonymous,,,,,1512311572 151870016,151885861,2017-12-03 14:33:03,">>151885471 I don't, but obviously a lot of people do, and I'm asking how Libertarian ideology deals with it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512311583 151870016,151885928,2017-12-03 14:33:41,">>151885268 >living like cattle under someone who could satisfy our wants would fit that definition. No. Also materialism isn't the goal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512311621 151870016,151885961,2017-12-03 14:33:59,">>151885688 people still do it and get away with it especially if your wealth america is CURRENTLY know as the human trafficking hub now take into consideration what would happen upon aoc being abolished. children that go though that will have more visibility, thus more awareness, thus more help will come to them",,TPM,,,,,1512311639 151870016,151885985,2017-12-03 14:34:10,">>151885688 >Before there were laws about it people did it and got away with it, especially if they were wealthy. >especially if they were wealthy. You know... like today?",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1512311650 151870016,151885997,2017-12-03 14:34:16,">>151885848 I agree, because of age of consent laws. What prevents children being exploited sexually in a Libertarian society?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512311656 151870016,151886074,2017-12-03 14:35:04,">>151881878 Hey fashbro!",,Anonymous,SIC3.png,ufLI9OXoiRcxct7jayV0Bw==,,,1512311704 151870016,151886097,2017-12-03 14:35:11,">>151870475 >>151870551 >>151871184 Here is the three page in one image",,Anonymous,Freedom to do right.png,tDlWenhjIKGW7AFzxy194g==,US,,1512311711 151870016,151886141,2017-12-03 14:35:37,">>151885997 The NAP. Violation of said NAP may be met with swift force. Texas already does this. A man who killed his childs rapist was only given a couple of years. You are also allowed to freely kill a rapist in the middle of a rape to defend a person. Those who would diddle little kids would find themselves staring down the barrel of a gun. That",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512311737 151870016,151886226,2017-12-03 14:36:31,">>151885810 the problem with materialism is that you don't see anything spiritual with life, it sucks the color out of life, and is a short path to destruction. ancap is very spiritual when you consider its origins of greek philosophy, the idea that you should good for your city because you are a part of your city, and helping it is helping you. ergo, ancap is inherently esoteric",,TPM,,,,,1512311791 151870016,151886237,2017-12-03 14:36:38,">>151885961 > people still do it and get away with it Yeah but that's not an argument to decriminalise it, right? > now take into consideration what would happen upon aoc being abolished. children that go though that will have more visibility, thus more awareness, thus more help will come to them What ""help""? If it's not a crime, how do you stop it? Vigilantism? Abolishing age of consent just leads to child prostitution.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512311798 151870016,151886251,2017-12-03 14:36:44,">>151886097 Thanks, love this one",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512311804 151870016,151886273,2017-12-03 14:36:52,">>151885751 >posts pictures of naked cartoon children >gets kicked yUo KiCkD mE fOr DifFerEnt OpiNiON OP even stated degeneracy isn't allowed.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1512311812 151870016,151886377,2017-12-03 14:37:45,">>151885985 Not everywhere, but it is a problem that should be addressed. That's still not an answer.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512311865 151870016,151886391,2017-12-03 14:37:54,">>151885997 there would still be laws age of consent would still exist",,Anonymous,,,,,1512311874 151870016,151886414,2017-12-03 14:38:09,">>151885751 What's your discord tag?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512311889 151870016,151886444,2017-12-03 14:38:24,">>151886237 yes vigilantism freedom to good is also freedom to bad if the moral fiber of you city is so bunk that child prosittution gets you anything but lynched, you are already doomed >pic related",,TPM,state vs degeneracy.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1512311904 151870016,151886449,2017-12-03 14:38:28,">>151884862 communism is also materialistic. >>151884909 league of blood incident maybe >>151885284 a spiritual purpose has nothing to do with the material world, its sulflesness in its most pure form.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512311908 151870016,151886582,2017-12-03 14:39:41,">>151886444 >if the moral fiber of you city is so bunk that child prosittution gets you anything but lynched, you are already doomed soddom and ghomorra and we all know how it ended for them",,Anonymous,chink6.jpg,gkw9Lc0z4jPsLbAsXICqSA==,,,1512311981 151870016,151886717,2017-12-03 14:40:53,">>151870016 are children people or property?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512312053 151870016,151886738,2017-12-03 14:41:02,">>151886449 something a normal human can never archieve, peope who can, are born leaders or chosen by the stars your definition sounds like some new age commie garbage",,Anonymous,,,,,1512312062 151870016,151886776,2017-12-03 14:41:25,">>151885861 By scaring off the spooks away from their children, and generally not raising their kids to be fucked in the head. Shame that's hate speech in Bongistan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512312085 151870016,151886804,2017-12-03 14:41:34,">>151885685 Also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n67hcWV6a9A",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512312094 151870016,151886810,2017-12-03 14:41:36,>tfw no free market white ethnostate,,Anonymous,1486412248102.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,,,1512312096 151870016,151886831,2017-12-03 14:41:46,">>151886141 But if you go into someone's home to kill someone for raping their child, that person can just kill YOU, right? I mean, you are just talking about defending someone from assault, which already exists. What if the parent is the abuser, or permits the abuse? It sounds like the answer to my question is, ""people will kill paedophiles still""... which isn't an answer. The problem would get immeasurably worse.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512312106 151870016,151886881,2017-12-03 14:42:16,">>151885928 Why isn't it the goal? Is there anything wrong with it according to yourself?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512312136 151870016,151886968,2017-12-03 14:43:15,">>151886391 If there are still laws, you need lawmakers which requires taxation. I mean you might not be against all taxation so fair enough. Libs have argued for legalization of child abuse.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512312195 151870016,151887087,2017-12-03 14:44:21,">>151886881 >Is there anything wrong with it according to yourself? That's like saying chocolate is the goal because chocolate is something that exists in a libertarian society. You don't have to be a materialist consumer if you don't want to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512312261 151870016,151887138,2017-12-03 14:44:55,">>151886717 depending on their age, behaviour and their mental capabilities the modern western woman would not be considered a person in a free society",,Anonymous,,,,,1512312295 151870016,151887159,2017-12-03 14:45:05,">>151886968 >you need lawmakers which requires taxation no, look up what polycentric law is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycentric_law Libs have argued for legalization of child abuse. Then they are sick fucks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512312305 151870016,151887253,2017-12-03 14:46:03,">>151886444 So your answer is there would be zero protections for children in a Lib society. Just the freedom for people to kill one another if the suspect wrongdoing? Do you have the right to enter someone's property to kill that person for having relations with a, say, 13 yo?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512312363 151870016,151887336,2017-12-03 14:46:53,Why do you autists think libertarianism is any different from liberalism?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512312413 151870016,151887504,2017-12-03 14:48:24,">>151887159 Libertarians have, to be clear. I mean I read that page, it doesn't really clarify. Can't you explain it?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512312504 151870016,151887566,2017-12-03 14:49:03,">>151886968 one rules his property associates rule their property and so on you're too stupid to understand that",,Anonymous,,,,,1512312543 151870016,151887614,2017-12-03 14:49:30,">>151886738 >something a normal human can never achieve >>151881878 this lad did, and he took his own life. his actions have nothing to do with inheritances, means of production and money. he lived and died for an ideal and is the enemy of every materialist. fascism is simply uniting all people and leading them to a spiritual purpose >>151887336 autism",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512312570 151870016,151887805,2017-12-03 14:51:10,">>151887614 and why are you implying that libertarians can't do it too?",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1512312670 151870016,151887856,2017-12-03 14:51:35,">>151887159 > ""law arising from a variety of customs and private processes rather than law coercively imposed by a single state authority."" I mean.. that sort of just sounds like the sort of shit that happens in Pakistan. Like, in some bumfuck town they all decided it was okay to fuck kids, so it's ""their law""? I don't see how that's a good idea, even before we argue how viable it is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512312695 151870016,151887889,2017-12-03 14:51:55,">>151887504 I'm not an ancap but they believe law will be produced by competing legal firms. This system had worked before many times, in the american midwest and medieval iceland and medieval ireland.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512312715 151870016,151887935,2017-12-03 14:52:18,">>151885810 because it is based both on the material needs and the tribalistic need of blonging to a group.It is natural because you are part of a group that speacks the sam language like you,looks like you,acts like you,follows the same religion. Fascism combines parts of capitalism and communism.The individual can amass as much wealth as he wants as long as he repects the laws and supports the state when he is needed.It offers equality of oppurtunity but not equality of outcome and its a meritocratic system. Hence it accepts a basic unviresal truth that communism rejects,people are not equal.",,Anonymous,what is fascism.png,Qyq+PpdyKiQn2nIwJQwr2Q==,RO,,1512312738 151870016,151888008,2017-12-03 14:52:54,">>151887566 I'm just asking questions. Are you saying the ""law"" is entirely down to the property owner, that they are the ""ruler"" of their land?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512312774 151870016,151888021,2017-12-03 14:53:01,">>151887253 you are the king of your own property my friend to egg freemen that respect property rights to bust down your door you'd either been: fucking some ELSES child, bad move in general or: giving them the skippy treatment in the end it depends upon community standards but morality can be a rather universal thing child prostitutes especially since i don't imagine them prostituting willingly, is morally abhorrent to most cultures, and is abhorrent to ALL the public in america just fucking a kid may not provke a reaction. with the exceptions above. but prostitution will",,TPM,,,,,1512312781 151870016,151888174,2017-12-03 14:54:23,">>151887336 in the classical sense it is the same, liberal traditionally meant pursuing freedom, you could have a liberal support a monarchy, or democracy, or fascism",,TPM,,,,,1512312863 151870016,151888373,2017-12-03 14:56:08,">>151888021 >fucking some ELSES child, bad move in general so what if someone just wants to fuck their OWN kid on their own property, no strings attached, no prostitution? Do i have the right to kill him?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512312968 151870016,151888466,2017-12-03 14:56:58,">>151888021 This sounds an awful lot like: ""If you are fucking your own kid on your own property and people don't get mad about it, then it's okay"". The fact that Pakistan and Brazil exists proves that a society that doesn't explicitly protect children will be pretty fine with them being exploited.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512313018 151870016,151888519,2017-12-03 14:57:21,">>151887935 >because it is based both on the material needs and the tribalistic need of blonging to a group so are free market ethnostates what is your point? >Fascism combines parts of capitalism and communism. That's why it's retarded. Why ban usury? Why don't you learn some basic economics to realize how much of a horrible idea that would be.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512313041 151870016,151888571,2017-12-03 14:57:44,">>151888373 >Do i have the right to kill him? yes because the whole town will judge that you were right. the molester would probably get hanged in public if he survives it",,Anonymous,,,,,1512313064 151870016,151888625,2017-12-03 14:58:19,">>151887805 because individualists do not care about the concepts that define the past and future of a peoples when it colludes with their material self interests.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512313099 151870016,151888629,2017-12-03 14:58:21,">>151888373 Pretty sure the idea is that you can TRY to kill anyone, and what stops you is that everyone else can kill you back. And that totally isn't medieval .. except that it literally is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512313101 151870016,151888742,2017-12-03 14:59:15,">>151888519 >That's why it's retarded. It doesn't, there is no fix'd definition for it. citing the first wiki page that comes up on google doesn't make you a fascist",,Anonymous,,,,,1512313155 151870016,151888771,2017-12-03 14:59:28,">>151888571 So Libertarian law is mob justice. Sounds reliable. Anybody going to check who is right? That someone is telling the truth?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512313168 151870016,151888800,2017-12-03 14:59:51,">>151887935 STOP POSTING THIS RETARDED IMAGE. THIS IS A FALSE FLAG. IGNORE IT",,Anonymous,1442965990110.png,3wKaIdMs4o8prftcFO6VJQ==,NL,,1512313191 151870016,151888809,2017-12-03 14:59:55,">>151888625 If you would be here more often you would see that those are just strawman arguments and the guys here are nothing like that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512313195 151870016,151888816,2017-12-03 14:59:57,">>151886097 The very thing that destroyed what those drawings are trying to portray, is, ironically, libertarian policies.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1512313197 151870016,151888873,2017-12-03 15:00:29,">>151888021 Are you literally arguing that as long as you don't whore out a child, it's okay to fuck her discreetly?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512313229 151870016,151888949,2017-12-03 15:01:10,">Yeah like you are free to raise your family like you want and manage our own lives >Except you have to follow the morals of the herd. >also fuck the state lol",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1512313270 151870016,151888953,2017-12-03 15:01:11,">>151888771 the local judge, and not necessarily the judge, but a man in positions of power, the natural elite of the area. could be the village elder, the sheriff, the actual judge, or anyone that rises to leadership, which someone always will",,TPM,,,,,1512313271 151870016,151889066,2017-12-03 15:02:14,">>151888809 im talking about pure individualism, where the universe starts when you are born and ends when you die. if you are different congratz. the concept still remains applicable in varying degrees",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512313334 151870016,151889144,2017-12-03 15:02:53,">>151888873 i am not, kids are for tender love, not the sex the only reason i don't bring up what your saying is that you'd have to fucking your kid in the middle of the yard to have your community find out, which is unlikely",,TPM,,,,,1512313373 151870016,151889147,2017-12-03 15:02:55,">>151888873 Only if nobody in your town murders you for it. If they do, you were wrong. If they don't, for whatever reason, you're fine. Of course, there is nothing making sure anyone being killed WAS a child molester. And nothing making sure your town won't lynch you for perceived slights. It's mob rule. Works in the Favelas.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512313375 151870016,151889241,2017-12-03 15:03:42,">>151888771 mfw the people who hate the tyranny of the majority unironically believe in mob justice",,Anonymous,1505076781228.png,spx17MmF6wQFj3Mkeg2dmg==,US,,1512313422 151870016,151889271,2017-12-03 15:03:57,">>151888466 those are thirld world countries m8, potatoes being compared to oranges",,TPM,,,,,1512313437 151870016,151889350,2017-12-03 15:04:39,">>151888953 So Feudal lords. And if HE is the one fucking kids? Or is just cool with it? What then? What if he has enemies and decides to accuse them of child molestation, he is the arbiter after all.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512313479 151870016,151889356,2017-12-03 15:04:44,">>151888373 yes you woould, if your communtiy judges it to be so",,TPM,,,,,1512313484 151870016,151889563,2017-12-03 15:06:34,">>151889066 >im talking about pure individualism, where the universe starts when you are born and ends when you die. this kind of mindset can only exist with a welfare state in nature they will just die out after a generation and low time preferences and traditional values and spiritualism will prevail. you can't live out your individualism when you are forced to get along with your fellow men.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512313594 151870016,151889692,2017-12-03 15:07:51,">>151889144 So you are quite literally claiming that in a Libertarian society it's very unlikely anyone will find out you are raping your children. Well I'm relieved. That wasn't the point I was trying to make at all.",,Anonymous,1266423712564.gif,yxr8SS8/XF+ukfR04rM5lg==,GB,,1512313671 151870016,151889864,2017-12-03 15:09:24,">>151889241 They're just disillusioned. I can't blame them, but I don't agree with their solution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512313764 151870016,151890089,2017-12-03 15:11:27,">>151889271 How is that relevant? Are you arguing 1st world societies don't have problems with child abuse in communities that protect them? Never heard of Catholics? Latter Day Saints?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512313887 151870016,151890126,2017-12-03 15:11:47,">>151889692 i'm saying that's the case NOW you have to be fucking in the middle of daylight in the street to get found out. that's always been the case",,TPM,,,,,1512313907 151870016,151890281,2017-12-03 15:13:21,">>151889356 And if your community is okay with it, it's permissible. I.E In a Libertarian society if your particular community wants to fuck kids, go ahead. Pedo Island will be a popular tourist destination.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512314001 151870016,151890380,2017-12-03 15:14:16,"You have owners of themselves that also may own property rules come autisticaly - them deciding on their property - extension of themselves or them deciding as community by voluntarly association - as abstract and complicated what childs do to play football between themselves",,Anonymous,,,,,1512314056 151870016,151890520,2017-12-03 15:15:36,">>151890126 Maybe in Appalachia, but in most societies social workers and teachers identify child abuse regularly, and it's severely criminalised. If it merely comes down to social views in the area, you get communities that let it happen. Like LDS, or greedy Thai parents.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512314136 151870016,151890578,2017-12-03 15:16:02,">>151889350 feudal lords wouldn't exist, as society does not rest on one individual. the style of ancapistan would be one of property owners in a geographic location coming together to found a town or village, the 'lord' would merely be the individual trusted most for his judgement, the responsibilities of the judge is NOT to make morality but to enforce the community's morality by his decisions, he can only do what the community thinks is right, as that is why he is trusted, because the community know his decisions to be sound in tune with them",,TPM,,,,,1512314162 151870016,151890689,2017-12-03 15:17:13,">>151890380 Makes sense.",,Anonymous,e75.jpg,W18Q1VGzWOuYNOu+/kMwag==,GB,,1512314233 151870016,151890843,2017-12-03 15:18:40,">>151890089 do you know what you are saying? you are saying that humans with completely different lifestyles, that see the world differently than i, and all my countryman's. are an comparison that can be made? that is wrong on every level and as for the church they are literally the whore of babylon , the latter days? couldn't say",,TPM,,,,,1512314320 151870016,151890850,2017-12-03 15:18:44,">>151878838 It is a crisis ideology that exists to prevent a commie takeover. Without the threat of socialism, it serves no purpose.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512314324 151870016,151890934,2017-12-03 15:19:39,">>151890578 > feudal lords wouldn't exist, as society does not rest on one individual. Yet >>151888953 >man in positions of power, the natural elite of the area. could be the village elder, the sheriff, the actual judge, or anyone that rises to leadership, which someone always will Riiiiight Dude you are still describing the sort of ""law"" found in fucking Afghan villages. If a kid is born in a pedo-happy village, they are (literally) fucked.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512314379 151870016,151891045,2017-12-03 15:20:52,">>151890520 you'd think that's the case but no, teachers aren't the most watchful, otherwise there would be NO abuse cases unnoticed. how many time do encounter social workers outside of professional environments? they are already useless again, why do you talk of third worlders like they are us?",,TPM,,,,,1512314452 151870016,151891131,2017-12-03 15:21:40,">>151890843 Do you read what you fucking type? Yeah I can make comparisons between different people with different views. Only deeply autistic people can't.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512314500 151870016,151891333,2017-12-03 15:23:37,">>151890934 >If a kid is born in a pedo-happy village, they are (literally) fucked. and your only examples are third worlders where this kind of pedofillia is done in broad daylight and on the second point, that will, sadly, ALWAYS be the case, like gays, you can't get rid of sexualiyy",,TPM,,,,,1512314617 151870016,151891419,2017-12-03 15:24:27,">>151891045 > teachers don't catch abuse because otherwise they'd always catch it Even for pol that's retarded. Plenty of US communities have protected paedophiles, as a whole. Look at fucking Alabama. Saying ""it's third world"" isn't a rebuttal in any way, at all.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512314667 151870016,151891480,2017-12-03 15:24:58,,,Anonymous,1512023941744.png,M7fUbielyn19YLZNbGbH7g==,,,1512314698 151870016,151891541,2017-12-03 15:25:26,">>151891131 yes i did, you originally pointed out that thrild wolder abuse children, and then pointed out its not only them getting abused, but the famously corrupt church that does as well, whats your point?",,TPM,,,,,1512314726 151870016,151891548,2017-12-03 15:25:33,,,Anonymous,1511450236613.png,NckyHMmKIW85H9Z5UJGKqw==,,,1512314733 151870016,151891709,2017-12-03 15:27:01,,,Anonymous,1512070468107.png,pahV9M5BL7ue49um4zufZA==,,,1512314821 151870016,151891739,2017-12-03 15:27:17,">>151891333 I mentioned Catholics and LDS. But here's one for you; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YFZ_Ranch There are plenty of examples in the FIRST world of communities that protect child abusers , and they would be empowered under Libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512314837 151870016,151891755,2017-12-03 15:27:26,">>151891480 both of you are ignorant libertarianism allows for racist businesses so you should be teaming up to defeat communists",,Anonymous,,,,,1512314846 151870016,151891792,2017-12-03 15:27:45,">>151891419 and do you see these committees being cracked down upon? i don't, so what does it matter if the laws are there or not? and the ones are REALLY abusing them, are satanists, those guys are the ones that would be killed first and should, for our free christian order",,TPM,,,,,1512314865 151870016,151891872,2017-12-03 15:28:36,">>151891541 Why is it being a church relevant? What's YOUR point? Are there no religious communities in Ancapland?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512314916 151870016,151892024,2017-12-03 15:30:00,,,Anonymous,Don't tread on chinks.jpg,ZEljzmJkDdZ1cxsmHy+w0g==,,,1512315000 151870016,151892100,2017-12-03 15:30:41,">>151891792 Yes, I do. Your defence, to be clear, is that nobody is doing anything about child rape now, so why should Ancap society do anything to change that? Fucking wow mate. You get that this is an admission that Ancap offers zero protections for children?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512315041 151870016,151892224,2017-12-03 15:31:48,">>151891755 wrong post?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512315108 151870016,151892299,2017-12-03 15:32:30,Reminder that giving women rights was the biggest mistake ever.,,Anonymous,1512108303836.png,jVUOMgxJU7p/CMViWhsYyg==,,,1512315150 151870016,151892310,2017-12-03 15:32:37,some cheeky /brit/ gave me this earlier,,Anonymous,Ethics of liberty: children.jpg,NiEWtmQXUh1JYhkW3VxaMg==,US,,1512315157 151870016,151892324,2017-12-03 15:32:44,">>151891739 okay, so you got me, SOME first worlders fuck kids in hinding and away from the public eye. and in the example given it was literally a jew who brought this all together, jews would not be allowed",,TPM,,,,,1512315164 151870016,151892356,2017-12-03 15:33:06,"The first ideology I truly subscribed to was minarchism, but I got gradually radicalized by /pol/. I don't wanna be a nazi anymore, plz send help.",,Anonymous,1512021791802.png,mrs/beHan6De23Gt+ftbDw==,BR,,1512315186 151870016,151892556,2017-12-03 15:35:01,">>151892100 did we ever say that we offer protection to children? because we don't, to anyone, thats the POINT ancap society is not geared to interventionism",,TPM,,,,,1512315301 151870016,151892602,2017-12-03 15:35:18,">>151892324 That's Fascism, not Anarcho-Capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512315318 151870016,151892707,2017-12-03 15:36:14,">>151892602 no that's just shared antisemitism by a community",,Anonymous,,,,,1512315374 151870016,151892759,2017-12-03 15:36:41,">>151888519 Please tell me that you are not seriously areguing in the favour of usury. >Why don't you learn some basic economics to realize how much of a horrible idea that would be. I have learned alot more than the basics i graduated form an college of economic studies.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1512315401 151870016,151892810,2017-12-03 15:37:09,">>151892310 >What's adoption?",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1512315429 151870016,151892873,2017-12-03 15:37:45,">>151892602 >hating jews is fascism get a load of this goy i'm sure you think all those poor persecuted jews that got kicked out of their home countries were merely scapegoats by greedy and lazy country leaders too",,TPM,,,,,1512315465 151870016,151893016,2017-12-03 15:39:08,">>151892556 Yes >>151885961 >>151886444 >>151888021 >>151888953 >>151889356 >>151890578 Enforcing a ""community's morality"" by protecting children. So yeah, you did. And I demonstrated that's a colossal pile of nothing, and now your tune has changed. You don't protect kids, pedos can rape as they please, your movement is a joke.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512315548 151870016,151893336,2017-12-03 15:41:53,>this is what libertarians actually believe,,Anonymous,mises von retard.png,S5wF7Hz0nEoI4ox1fv83Ig==,US,,1512315713 151870016,151893407,2017-12-03 15:42:30,">>151892759 >Please tell me that you are not seriously areguing in the favour of usury. Of course I am, we ALL ARE. There's nothing wrong with it and countless european nations used it in their economies with ZERO PROBLEMS.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512315750 151870016,151893481,2017-12-03 15:43:03,">>151892707 I suppose you're right. Pretty sure there will still be Jewish communities in anarcho-capitalist states though. How do you ""remove"" Jews without becoming a Fascist state instead? It's not the anti-semitism, it's the idea that Jews will be removed somehow.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512315783 151870016,151893540,2017-12-03 15:43:28,">>151893336 That entire section of the book was literally mocking the concept of a ""monopoly price"" in the first place, you fucking idiot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512315808 151870016,151893623,2017-12-03 15:44:08,">>151893336 Let me guess, you did not actually read man economy and the state, instead you just found that pic on reddit and decided you could get free (you)s here. You have to go back",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512315848 151870016,151893825,2017-12-03 15:45:46,">>151893540 Are you saying there is no such thing as a monopoly price? wat???",,Anonymous,1300044776986.jpg,2mMwTeGpZ3lKy74XOUJGMA==,US,,1512315946 151870016,151893967,2017-12-03 15:47:04,">>151893016 i said that we'd enforce a christian morality, which means not harming kids, as christ said, those that would harm a child, it would be better to tie a mill stone around your neck and throw yourself into the ocean', pedohillia would not be tolerated, simple, if people caught wind the would kill the pedo most likely, or a surrounding community might attack another where it is commonplace. but ancap is NOT about protecting children, we don't found our philosophy around it, sorry but i don't know what victory you won.",,TPM,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1512316024 151870016,151894015,2017-12-03 15:47:27,"discord link expired, can you post a new one?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512316047 151870016,151894300,2017-12-03 15:50:11,">>151893967 So an AnCap state will have communities like yours, and communities like the ones I mentioned. So there is no protection against the exploitation of children in your ideology, in fact it *removes* protections. If you haven't worked it out, that's a pretty major problem. Something Jesus would have been upset with.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512316211 151870016,151894644,2017-12-03 15:53:16,">>151893967 Oh and if only Christian communities with specific morals is allowed to exist, that's not free, anarchist, or Libertarian. It's Fundamentalist Authoritarianism. How is the state supposed to stay out of people's business when apparently everyone js making a big ol' gang to round up jews and commies?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512316396 151870016,151894695,2017-12-03 15:53:48,">>151894300 >Something Jesus would have been upset with. Jesus would be upset with the democratic states we have now. since his empire is not from this earth",,Anonymous,,,,,1512316428 151870016,151894999,2017-12-03 15:56:46,">>151894695 Yeah but as I'm not Christian I don't give a fuck. I can point out Christian hypocrisy without being Christian. See how that works?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512316606 151870016,151895047,2017-12-03 15:57:10,">>151894695 hold up just a second ancaps have done a lot of deconstruction. They've deconstructed the entire idea of ""monopoly"" for fuck's sake. Now it's my turn, let's deconstruct what you just said. Is owning something collectively wrong? So if a town owned property collectively, would that be wrong?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512316630 151870016,151895063,2017-12-03 15:57:18,">>151894300 >implying jesus says that the state should enforce morality by removing the state, we remove protection on EVERYTHING, that's the point, to let the natural order play out, we are white christians, that love families. without being said, its is ALREADY abhorrent to us if children are used, and since the sate is gone, we would enforce morality ourselves, the way it should be done. and why do you think the government isn't actively kidnapping select kids based on their feature to sell to pedophiles? why do you pretend that its anything but an open secret that the foster system is filled to the brim with pedos that do it with full knowledge, if not participation, from the social worker. why do you pretend like our government isn't entirely filled with satanist pedophiles? why do you pretend that if it wasn't for the mass media shunning stories like this there would be mass lynchings? why do you feign ignorance that just under half of em are jews? Jesus is already angry",,TPM,,,,,1512316638 151870016,151895115,2017-12-03 15:57:43,">>151894999 >Yeah but as I'm not Christian I don't give a fuck have fun on your judgement day",,Anonymous,,,,,1512316663 151870016,151895242,2017-12-03 15:58:51,">>151894644 the first step of freedom is the removal of toxic elements form society, that can be achieved though use of the state, or my favorite option, deregulation, and the formation of militias for the solution, but you are a brit so that would sound TERRIBLE to you",,TPM,,,,,1512316731 151870016,151895403,2017-12-03 16:00:09,">>151894999 so you can live with all the pedophile communities then, we'll be living with the morally correct people",,TPM,,,,,1512316809 151870016,151895766,2017-12-03 16:03:36,">>151895063 > We would enforce morality ourselves, the way it should be done. So mob rule. What happens when all the Jews just fortify themselves, or the Pedo-City surrounds itself with mines and barbed wire? War? Chaos? Or leaving them alone and therefore free to abuse kids? > why do you think the government isn't actively kidnapping select kids based on their feature to sell to pedophiles? Same reason I don't believe in God. I only believe in things there is actual strong evidence for. > why do you pretend that its anything but an open secret that the foster system is filled to the brim with pedos that do it with full knowledge, if not participation, from the social worker. Why is your solution decriminalising child abuse? > why do you pretend like our government isn't entirely filled with satanist pedophiles? Cause I'm not a conspiracy theorist desperately projecting and trying to distract from how BTFO he is. > Jesus is already angry Probably more mad at Christians who hate Jews though mate, given he is one.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512317016 151870016,151895875,2017-12-03 16:04:41,">>151870496 >>151883636 >>151886414 send discord link pls",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1512317081 151870016,151896134,2017-12-03 16:07:03,">>151895403 Thats my point, those communities will exist, and your ideology gives permission for them. It ENABLES it. That's disgusting and morally abominable. >>151895242 Militias would inevitably fight other militias with different views though, right? For you to actually remove these ""toxic"" elements, you become Authoritarian. Which is the opposite of your supposed ideology.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512317223 151870016,151896274,2017-12-03 16:08:20,">>151895115 Muslims and Jews say the exact same thing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512317300 151870016,151896706,2017-12-03 16:12:00,">>151895766 >So mob rule. What happens when all the Jews just fortify themselves, or the Pedo-City surrounds itself with mines and barbed wire? probably war, that the natural way, you are literally saying that jews and satanists(redundant i know) make a dreadfort capital for abusing children, yeah war is obvious >Same reason I don't believe in God. I only believe in things there is actual strong evidence for. we can debate god later, but its no secret thats what they do, its just something you grow up hearing about though local rumors and stories from your classmates, who were in the foster system, that sat next too you in class >Why is your solution decriminalising child abuse? why is your solution paying know child abusers >Cause I'm not a conspiracy theorist desperately projecting and trying to distract from how BTFO he is. then you jumped in late, and didn't see the evidence in its pure light before the normies got in it personally is say it start from the initial leaks during the wikileaks dumps, there is no doubt in my mind. >Probably more mad at Christians who hate Jews though mate, given he is one. that's just ignorance the bible is the longest betrayal story in history, that why the jews only teach the first five books among them selves, on the followers of christ are jews, as it says in matthew",,TPM,,,,,1512317520 151870016,151897469,2017-12-03 16:18:53,">>151896134 >Thats my point, those communities will exist, and your ideology gives permission for them. It ENABLES it. as does the modern day, the difference is that my ideology permits them to be destroyed by morally right men, instead relying on the government to stop them(the morally right men) >Militias would inevitably fight other militias with different views though, right? some would, but not most, most would get along , quoting early american history here. >For you to actually remove these ""toxic"" elements, you become Authoritarian. Which is the opposite of your supposed ideology. authoritarian yes, state no, our world in our towns would be one of rules, but not governments and regulations. charity and church will come first as the ways to provide, not social welfare and tyrants you see we still believe in not murdering each other, drugs are easier to run out of town, then it is to kill the cartels, no demand, no supply, vice versa",,TPM,,,,,1512317933 151870016,151897559,2017-12-03 16:19:38,">>151896706 So your solution is civil war, which results in a state that prohibits communism and judiasm, satanism and (admittedly acceptably) paedophilia. That's an authoritarian state mate. Not AnCap. Foster system having problems in the US doesn't therefore mean the Government are satanist pedos. It doesn't mean it is unfixable or should be removed entirely. My solution isn't paying child abusers, it's MAKING THEM CRIMINALS. The literal exact opposite of your position. Jesus was a Jew, and would not support authoritarian discrimination of Jews, Communists, and especially not Homosexuals. My man, you are a deeply confused individual and I pity you. What you are advocating for is in fact a Corporate-Fascist takeover of the States with a Christian Patriarchal rule. Probably not a flag for that though. At this point, all I'm saying is your beliefs do not reconcile with Anarcho-Capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512317978 151870016,151897649,2017-12-03 16:20:28,">>151895875 sXwfD5K put it here",,Anonymous,file.png,l/H+Fdz26oAjHCzMNoj1rg==,GB,,1512318028 151870016,151897997,2017-12-03 16:23:42,"Someone wants our discord? yNxgWs",,Anonymous,,,,,1512318222 151870016,151897999,2017-12-03 16:23:44,">>151897559 >At this point, all I'm saying is your beliefs do not reconcile with Anarcho-Capitalism. It is the purest form of ancap you sound more like a lolberg",,Anonymous,bring your dick.jpg,b37u+9nORDVavXGIWPNjEQ==,,,1512318224 151870016,151898150,2017-12-03 16:24:55,">>151897469 Why do you think in a stateless society with no unified government that you'd win a conflict? Wouldn't like, all of California just tell you to fuck off? This is what I'm saying, for you to get what you want, you have to form a state. A stateless, ungoverned society would just be roflstomped by unified states, which will get formed sharpish in response to actions you advocate. You will have your own shitty Christian state thats-not-a-state, and rival neighbours who will form effective governance in response and would easily crush you militarily. Let your fantasies be fantasies bro. Peace.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1512318295 151870016,151898878,2017-12-03 16:31:21,">>151897559 >So your solution is civil war, which results in a state that prohibits communism and judaism, satanism and (admittedly acceptably) paedophilia. that's the opposite of what i said at best the state is a temporary tool, but i'd rather go with deregulation first than interval totalitarianism >That's an authoritarian state mate. Not AnCap. ancap is anarcho capitalist, it does not mean ""freedom"" loving hippies, you don't know much about us, i can tell >Foster system having problems in the US doesn't therefore mean the Government are satanist pedos. It doesn't mean it is unfixable or should be removed entirely. do you need a sheet of paper released by a government to believe everything? and it should be removed entirely as small government will only make itself big. t. united states >My solution isn't paying child abusers, it's MAKING THEM CRIMINALS. The literal exact opposite of your position. they are already criminals, yet much pedophillia untill more recent has been criminalised not at the high level but almost exclusively at the bottom level, the ones in charge would never incriminate themselves, and its a sad nature of democracy that only the worst rise to the top. >Jesus was a Jew, and would not support authoritarian discrimination of Jews, Communists, and especially not Homosexuals. you don't know much about the teachings of jesus friend. >My man, you are a deeply confused individual and I pity you. What you are advocating for is in fact a Corporate-Fascist takeover of the States with a Christian Patriarchal rule. but i'm not",,TPM,,,,,1512318681 151870016,151899254,2017-12-03 16:34:57,TAXATION IS THEFT,,Anonymous,,,,,1512318897 151870016,151899267,2017-12-03 16:35:02,">>151898150 do you know why mainland invasions weren't tried in the united states despite, for the longest time, us not having any sizable military? because of the willingness of the people to defend kin and country that is something completely lost on the brit, despite this attitude being mentioned time and time again in books. that is why we would win, because we can organize if need be, we can and will fight",,TPM,Defending the free territory.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,,,1512318902 152132104,152132104,2017-12-05 15:18:15,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1EF49B4C-BB95-4035-9C48-B429CF1DD62F.png,dbHarg7LIDngaUcVu+d0hw==,,,1512487095 152132104,152132861,2017-12-05 15:25:04,">>152132104 (((libertarianism)))",,Anonymous,sketch-1512505451497.png,529wXO+y/83Oas25hcF8uw==,,,1512487504 152132104,152132954,2017-12-05 15:25:53,">>152132104 Yay",,Anonymous,,,,,1512487553 152132104,152133049,2017-12-05 15:26:37,">>152132861 Greetings, NatBol who can't process ideas on his own.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512487597 152132104,152133552,2017-12-05 15:31:40,">>152132861 >Bolshevik calling other people Jews How do you get to this level of retard?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512487900 152132104,152134843,2017-12-05 15:43:54,,,Anonymous,19780436_1592716867437148_234855813182239998_o.jpg,TYVwrZ3g0gJok9OHYN7mwg==,US,,1512488634 152132104,152135033,2017-12-05 15:45:52,>>152132861,,Anonymous,being an ancap on :pol:.jpg,E/NJP+utAVenRcD/jpLhPw==,US,,1512488752 152132104,152135391,2017-12-05 15:49:47,/pol/ has forgotten Ron Paul. It time he is remembered,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512488987 152132104,152135718,2017-12-05 15:53:09,Roads,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512489189 152132104,152135852,2017-12-05 15:54:15,>>152135391,,Anonymous,1511895136909.jpg,hAyQNZKFg6wn/DJVioVfyg==,US,,1512489255 152132104,152135885,2017-12-05 15:54:33,Should rename this cringe general,,Anonymous,,,,,1512489273 152132104,152136036,2017-12-05 15:55:55,>>152135718,,Anonymous,1512494344229.gif,KchwQTaxZkBVI2H/CZ9luA==,US,,1512489355 152132104,152136143,2017-12-05 15:56:59,">>152135885 show us your flag, leaf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512489419 152132104,152136344,2017-12-05 15:59:13,>>152132104,,Anonymous,1473352622275.webm,GN6vf7qnby0Epz3dilxnpw==,US,,1512489553 152132104,152136771,2017-12-05 16:03:10,>>152135718,,Praceteom,muh roads.jpg,h63tB85yVNAAuA22LIbnCQ==,,,1512489790 152132104,152136942,2017-12-05 16:04:57,Bump for Hoppe!,,TPM,1509915617241.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,,,1512489897 152132104,152137235,2017-12-05 16:07:46,,,Anonymous,1511211096762.png,BBS3nkLedOhBgSHHQ9ZStQ==,US,,1512490066 152132104,152137498,2017-12-05 16:10:19,bump for /lrg/,,Anonymous,britains knife bin.jpg,dIYWkUhL+Tn06umpUleMyw==,,,1512490219 152132104,152138071,2017-12-05 16:15:35,Daily reminder that monopolies are virtually impossible to maintain on the free market and are almost invariably a product of state interference.,,Anonymous,23916278_1757331547610594_3320582696159297592_o.jpg,aR4ldTTXI2p8elSeQpb9FA==,US,,1512490535 152132104,152139627,2017-12-05 16:30:30,">>152138071 >b-but muh robber barons How do you explain the fact that Andrew Carnegie brought the price of steel beams down by almost 90% over the span of about a decade? Checkmate, anclap - this is why we need anti-trust!",,Praceteom,1468376536479.gif,TaI+Cj0CPSFuH6AasKy4vw==,,,1512491430 152132104,152139883,2017-12-05 16:32:33,"Bump, wheres all the ignorant fascists and trolling /leftypols/?",,TPM,1504558712076.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1512491553 152132104,152140303,2017-12-05 16:36:36,"The solution for america, would be an autocratic confederacy focused on propertarianism, and the rights of the states. monarchy is the wrong solution. debate me faggots",,TPM,1507259946789.png,NxDHdC/gArGTILt/DkxvIg==,,,1512491796 152132104,152140314,2017-12-05 16:36:43,">>152139883 I am right here",,Anonymous,chrissexmachinecantwell.jpg,kAjUfH7ClO30tD18SD8Iyg==,,,1512491803 152132104,152140982,2017-12-05 16:42:46,">>152140314 Welcome, watch where you tread",,TPM,1494120577650.jpg,68si7dZqoeSZ+G8nzHlyLg==,,,1512492166 152132104,152141574,2017-12-05 16:48:15,">>152140982 only on socialist human garbage my friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y4NmxsebHs",,Anonymous,normie ancap.png,qVuUnuV1qUum9uutqmIljg==,,,1512492495 152132104,152141683,2017-12-05 16:49:04,">>152135718 I'll build them with my private slave army and make you pay to use it",,Anonymous,1512360958093.gif,x3PebD+RaYzphRMig+5Cjw==,US,,1512492544 152132104,152141776,2017-12-05 16:49:59,">>152132104 Tell me about Minarchism",,Anonymous,primitive scientists.jpg,t9PNDhEtozHNUcCwlniNaA==,US,,1512492599 152132104,152141843,2017-12-05 16:50:40,">>152139883 right here",,Anonymous,,,,,1512492640 152132104,152141892,2017-12-05 16:51:14,">>152139627 We need to redpill people on the late 1800s Massive increases in living standards for the working class thanks to economic production and deflation",,Anonymous,,,,,1512492674 152132104,152141954,2017-12-05 16:51:41,">>152141843 REMOVE",,Anonymous,Freedom or Gravity.png,1w8z7fiHQmWL2XIgNr9BLg==,US,,1512492701 152132104,152142152,2017-12-05 16:53:42,">>152141892 Aye. Too bad most people need to be de-educated first, since they're fed demonstrably false, propagandistic lies in the government schools 90+% of people attend.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512492822 152132104,152142381,2017-12-05 16:55:48,">libertarian >physically remove the left whos_jewing_who.jpg",,Anonymous,,,,,1512492948 152132104,152142615,2017-12-05 16:57:53,">>152139627 This. also the John Rockefeller monopoly",,Anonymous,1511981508708.jpg,5MgEABZgWswNrdIxP43xMw==,US,,1512493073 152132104,152143189,2017-12-05 17:02:02,">>152132861 >(((bracket framing))) Works on normies Rabbi, not autists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512493322 152132104,152143433,2017-12-05 17:03:42,">>152142615 It was never a monopoly",,Anonymous,,,,,1512493422 152132104,152143664,2017-12-05 17:05:19,">>152141776 its like the government, but it really do anything",,TPM,1495312467873.jpg,JcT2u07f6aR90JYrDxjcOg==,,,1512493519 152132104,152144220,2017-12-05 17:09:35,">>152143433 Tell that to the public.",,Anonymous,1511457515515m.jpg,xUA931gGIGsNi2WRMTqANA==,US,,1512493775 152132104,152144268,2017-12-05 17:09:59,">>152143433 Owned huge part of Cleveland oil industry. Bought pipelines to bar competitors. Standard Oil was one of the main resources for anti-trust laws, my friend. >near monopoly, at least",,Anonymous,1509221920404.png,9FANd7N6mziCN80VEQo/aQ==,US,,1512493799 152132104,152144484,2017-12-05 17:11:46,">>152144268 >55% market share by the time they were broken up is a monopoly Retarded They should have never been broken up",,Anonymous,,,,,1512493906 152132104,152144950,2017-12-05 17:15:59,">>152144220 i wanna believe that image is real",,TPM,,,,,1512494159 152132104,152145067,2017-12-05 17:17:09,">libertarian >physical removal ???",,Anonymous,,,,,1512494229 152132104,152145071,2017-12-05 17:17:11,">>152141892 Not to mention that they were the most charitable people of all time Carnegie donated over $350,000,000 before he died in 1919 To put that in perspective the federal budget was around $18,000,000 (including all that shit they were paying because of what happened in WWI) Imagine a guy giving away almost 2% of the federal budget to charity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512494231 152132104,152145222,2017-12-05 17:18:41,What utilitarian arguments do you guys have against Modern Monetary Theory? Does it btfo commodity based currency?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512494321 152132104,152145414,2017-12-05 17:20:34,">>152145067 >he doesn't read the OP",,TPM,1512417995501.png,zx0RdrbbNLhdb0I44MOEkA==,,,1512494434 152132104,152145589,2017-12-05 17:22:24,">>152145222 It's to the benefit of the currency issuer and parties near the currency issuer at the expense of all other currency holders to inflate the currency. The incentive structure is horrible, and why things like bitcoin are so groundbreaking.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512494544 152132104,152145593,2017-12-05 17:22:25,>>152145222,,Anonymous,21192718_516682908680639_9083400246188962371_n.jpg,BY9YXz43STN8FQaec0Bgbw==,US,,1512494545 152132104,152145751,2017-12-05 17:23:57,">>152145593 >no nigger at the end what are you doing man?",,TPM,,,,,1512494637 152132104,152145872,2017-12-05 17:25:07,">>152145414 how is libertarianism compatible with removing people merely for their ideology? sounds like modern sjw (punch a nazi) bullshit to me",,Anonymous,,,,,1512494707 152132104,152145985,2017-12-05 17:26:20,">>152145872 >how is libertarianism compatible with removing people merely for their ideology It's not. Nothing is libertarian about thought-policing. Some of them realize this and just participate in a meme, many of them are actual retards who don't even know what libertarianism IS.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512494780 152132104,152146277,2017-12-05 17:29:26,"What's the libertarian argument against Belgian, German or Nordic economic model etc. including the healthcare? Citizens of those countries seem to be fine with it. Sure they're market economy but also heavily taxed and with a huge public sector.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512494966 152132104,152146336,2017-12-05 17:29:59,">>152145872 If you reject the NAP, you reject other people's property rights and cannot be trusted to behave peacefully.",,Anonymous,marx.png,Lfbhyi5P2RMndiZQ7LON+A==,US,,1512494999 152132104,152146607,2017-12-05 17:32:49,">>152146336 like i said, that's the punch a nazi mentality. you justify violence against people merely for wrongthink",,Anonymous,,,,,1512495169 152132104,152146740,2017-12-05 17:34:04,">>152145872 >>152145985 How is libertarianism society going to last when you let the communists, democrats, socialists, and other assorted parasites use and abuse society till it degrades into an unrecognizable form, like right now?",,TPM,Americans creed.jpg,tb8iqHfjARAvdPI8WeMfUw==,,,1512495244 152132104,152146810,2017-12-05 17:34:50,">>152146607 I would say it is indeed wrong to think that others have no right to their life, liberty, and property.",,Anonymous,Killing Communists is Ethical.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1512495290 152132104,152147066,2017-12-05 17:37:24,">>152146740 i don't care about your reasoning of whether it's right or wrong, i'm merely saying that's not libertarian",,Anonymous,,,,,1512495444 152132104,152147163,2017-12-05 17:38:13,">>152146740 How is communism going to last when you let libertarians, conservatives, and other assorted bourgeois parasites use and abuse society till it degrades into an unrecognizable form, like right now? Don't use arguments that can easily just be flipped by someone else to justify their own violence. They're bad arguments and obviously so.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512495493 152132104,152147358,2017-12-05 17:40:09,">>152146607 punch a nazi mentality is not inherently wrong, as opposing ideologies will naturally conflict with each other. what is unnatural is state interference. as one like you who advocate freedom you would already be at odds with the marxist, or the nazi, the islamist, or the fascist, and they are at odd with you, as each of those ideologies name you either either as their victim or their cause of oppression. those people upon gaining power will kill you in a state sponsored way, because they're ideology call for it. and if you consider each human a cell in the body of their group, then you consider the fight to natural as the fight between the mongoose and the snake. and every bit as just, and the only side that doesn't fight(mainstream lolberts)will be eaten, and considered to be the oddity, and destroyed.",,TPM,,,,,1512495609 152132104,152147442,2017-12-05 17:40:53,">>152147066 no, its not libertine",,TPM,,,,,1512495653 152132104,152147450,2017-12-05 17:40:58,">>152147066 How is not libertarian to defend one's own liberty?",,Anonymous,communism is violence.jpg,65OXxrD1l3bJnGhvqFuLig==,US,,1512495658 152132104,152147654,2017-12-05 17:42:52,">>152147163 what do you mean, you drive my argument home, they will not allow you to survive, and we only a part of nature, nature is survival of the fittest, if we allow it to happen we are not the fittest. there is nothing wrong wiht suppression of marxist thought",,TPM,,,,,1512495772 152132104,152147676,2017-12-05 17:43:07,">>152145872 Physical removal is a colorful expression that actually means social exclusion for those who refuse to acknowledge and respect other people's property rights. Everyone, by exercising their right to freedom of association, would exclude from society those people who attack their property rights. In order to live you need lots of things provided by others like shelter, a job so you can have currency, and a place where you are allowed by its owners to buy everything you need with such currency. The thing is those people must firstly agree to provide you with such things. Physical removal actually means that such people as apologists of communism and democracy would and/or should suffer a reverse-boycott. Stores would refuse to sell them goods, landlords would refuse to rent them a place and everyone would organize that nobody is providing goods to the likes of those people. Considering that in a private law society even the streets are privately owned those people wouldn't even allowed to step anywhere near such communities of private property based societies and would be either considered a minor nuisance or expelled by force. And they'd be in their right because they'd be trespassing private property. Read this to get a general idea how it'd work: https://fee.org/articles/how-policing-works-in-a-privatized-city/ Link above is an approximate blueprint how such a society could function. Notice the part where they say that ""no gang tattoos are allowed"". They are effectively applying a policy of segregation this way. (And it's beautiful!) Then some memelords here converted the whole physical removal thing it into an apology of violence. Brainlets, the lot of them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512495787 152132104,152147881,2017-12-05 17:45:15,">>152132104 Daily reminder that there is no Libertarian right, just European Libertarianism and far-right minarchism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512495915 152132104,152147957,2017-12-05 17:45:56,">>152147654 You should respond to reality and not paranoid conjecture about unrealized states of affairs. If someone is saying words - WHATEVER those words are - it is not ever justifiable to violently assault them based on their speaking. Thought policing is the absolute antithesis of libertarianism, and if you support thought policing you're simply not a libertarian.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512495956 152132104,152148025,2017-12-05 17:46:33,">>152147676 In short: You don't even NEED to kill commies at all. You just let them starve with their retarded ideology. Their ideology is practically unable to produce pretty much anything to support decent modern standards of living. If they were properly segregated they'd suffer the consequences of their ideas instead of mooching off a free society all the while working actively to bring it down.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512495993 152132104,152148309,2017-12-05 17:49:31,">>152147957 how is it paranoid conjecture to see that marxist committed the greatest atrocities of human history, and that they openly promise it upon their 'oppressors' TODAY. and that their plan is literally mass killings",,TPM,1498084645577.png,r4WuIP3oCKph8HYAhfYfWw==,,,1512496171 152132104,152148404,2017-12-05 17:50:27,">>152147676 >>152148025 I completely agree with freedom of association, and that explanation makes a lot more sense. Not exactly helpful to the movement when people subvert the message to make it thought policing though. Also, don't have the patience for articles written like a novel. I wish everyone would just get to the point, Jesus Christ.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512496227 152132104,152148443,2017-12-05 17:50:52,">>152148309 >to see If you see it it's not paranoid conjecture. If you don't see it and attack people because your feels tell you they're gonna do something you're a fucking moronic tool.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512496252 152132104,152148617,2017-12-05 17:52:28,">>152146336 This is true but killing people for wrong think is authoritarianism. I have no issue with shooting communists but you have to wait until they attempt to steal your shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512496348 152132104,152148630,2017-12-05 17:52:38,">>152132861 oh look, a commie who doesn't like people having their liberty and freedom.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512496358 152132104,152148692,2017-12-05 17:53:19,">>152134843 (((innocent)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512496399 152132104,152148764,2017-12-05 17:54:00,">>152148404 I agree too with the point that the whole removal misinterpretation has done a lot of damage to the idea of libertarianism. Even many spokespeople that pretended to be know it alls of libertarianism fell for this misunderstanding. I am in doubt whether such a thing was fortuitous or intentional though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512496440 152132104,152149202,2017-12-05 17:58:17,">>152148764 Removal is not ostracization. You trying to peddle that absolutely dissimilar words are magically synonymous only in this case is pathetic.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512496697 152132104,152149395,2017-12-05 18:00:07,">>152149202 So you actually believe that libertarianism is an apology to violence?",,Anonymous,,,,,1512496807 152132104,152149506,2017-12-05 18:01:03,">>152148617 >you have to wait until they attempt to steal your shit. Is announcing their intentions to steal not good enough? Threats of violence are just as worthy of self-defense.",,Anonymous,ancap-chan flag.jpg,0RNyhCnx0WBlV8xYi0A6QA==,US,,1512496863 152132104,152149510,2017-12-05 18:01:05,"Daily reminder (and this should be in the fucking OP by now) that Libertarianism =/= Egoism. Libertarians accept and appreciate society and peaceful cooperation. Stop conflating the two, plz.",,Anonymous,Ancap-Flag-Egoist-Flag.jpg,i1zk5gZIJLh3j2VA+8Wr6A==,,,1512496865 152132104,152149516,2017-12-05 18:01:09,">>152149202 That's not any more pathetic than labeling libertarians as compatible with violence for wrongthink.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512496869 152132104,152149706,2017-12-05 18:03:07,">>152149510 >""You're an anarchist? Zomg, why you don't want people to associate with each other???? LOL""",,Anonymous,46a.png,cQkRtcr84VKWN9jAM1Vc/A==,US,,1512496987 152132104,152149817,2017-12-05 18:04:24,">>152149395 I believe the ""le physical removal xD"" people try to justify violence. They are not libertarians.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512497064 152132104,152149912,2017-12-05 18:05:12,">>152149516 They're both pathetic.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512497112 152132104,152149926,2017-12-05 18:05:20,"senpaitachi, why not plan to phisical remove yourselves and migrate to new hampshire or some shit instead the helicopters shall came later",,Anonymous,gxpqZ1kjiM_HhHTxgha0LK_GQxi744SMA1aPEwYHBSo.jpg,LcjRErIQGG1iAP75X2L5nQ==,,,1512497120 152132104,152149990,2017-12-05 18:05:51,">>152149506 If they can be shown to plan such actions; - ""Brothers, join the preparations for a communist revolution!"" - ""All non-believers must convert, pay and submit or die for Allah"" - ""I'm going to kill you"" Are examples of justifying violence in self defense. Simply saying that you'd like a socialist state is not enough. Neither is voting for it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512497151 152132104,152150102,2017-12-05 18:06:54,What's up kikes.,,Anonymous,1511412291562.png,PLkjwOY1bo3t4oFpUu/s9A==,,,1512497214 152132104,152150133,2017-12-05 18:07:12,">>152149817 That's exactly my point.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512497232 152132104,152150147,2017-12-05 18:07:20,">>152149817 libertarianism is all about legit violence it's not pacifism implying the end-game of ancap society isn't policing the whole world to raise the moral standards by force and protect the children from their abusive fathers",,Anonymous,1495704390117.png,kptx2SPYBZdbeLQNcBWGUg==,,,1512497240 152132104,152150217,2017-12-05 18:08:01,">>152148443 but we already established this, its not feeling, its knowing what the preacher preaches",,TPM,,,,,1512497281 152132104,152150311,2017-12-05 18:08:55,">>152141892 Average work week went from 70hrs to 36hrs from 1830 to 1930 (I think over a 70 year period though). 1800s are demonized and the robber baron myth is peddled because it was a century of Classical Liberalism and economic prosperity, which the world used and abused in the 1900s. The socialists and the neocons had to band together to demonize us (yes we are the true Liberalis, we carry the fucking torch) so they could implement their left/right wing of the same collectivist bird bullshit. Before that it was us vs the monarchists and then the Socialists tried to go us and we fucking whooped them in Economics, but we were betrayed. This is a phenominal talk every Libertarian should know the facts of: (whoever this cunt is he's a good lad) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vw6uF2LdZw",,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1512497335 152132104,152150315,2017-12-05 18:08:58,">>152150133 You're trying to pretend ""physical removal"" is equivalent to ostracization. >>152150147 >libertarianism is all about legit violence ""Legit violence"" is not pre-emptive violence and thought-policing.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512497338 152132104,152150348,2017-12-05 18:09:17,">>152139883 Here.",,Anonymous,1510098055250.png,Lg6Je6XTjGiFQiNiRsZuGA==,,,1512497357 152132104,152150399,2017-12-05 18:09:44,">>152150217 It is feeling. Reality isn't reality until it happens. Pre-emptive violence is not justifiable in libertarianism.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512497384 152132104,152150464,2017-12-05 18:10:19,">>152150217 Inciting violence is not protected by the first amendment. Discussing communist ideas is not the same thing though, and it is necessary that people be able to think out and discuss these ideas in public discourse to understand on their own why they're terrible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512497419 152132104,152150549,2017-12-05 18:11:13,"Also daily reminder, you own yourself, your actions and the effects of those actions. Anyone who tries to distort that is being immoral and illogical. That goes for all collectivists that try to justify their backwards Aztec tier sacrificial beliefs.",,Anonymous,NAP-PropertyRights -Self-ownership-Freedom- Illustrated.jpg,f8AeH21oDwxwjDK9a+X2Sg==,,,1512497473 152132104,152150567,2017-12-05 18:11:23,"Individualist soyboys are the biggest blight to humanity Use your fucking head, have some discipline",,Anonymous,1503520474715.jpg,2OGe65FrO8l5PTB1m6Z8oA==,US,,1512497483 152132104,152150597,2017-12-05 18:11:46,>>152150549,,Praceteom,1372281775371.jpg,NQmlz92zjO275UVhrwz//g==,,,1512497506 152132104,152150620,2017-12-05 18:11:57,">>152150315 It actually is. That is exactly what Hoppe meant for it. Another different thing is what short attention span shitposters in 4chan think it means. They should've read the books instead of meming so much.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512497517 152132104,152150628,2017-12-05 18:12:04,">>152148443 you actually require over 70iq to visualize the differences between an objective spoken threat and and just talking shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1512497524 152132104,152150714,2017-12-05 18:12:54,">>152132861 suck more state cock",,Anonymous,,,,,1512497574 152132104,152150736,2017-12-05 18:13:09,">>152150464 talking about theft and planning theft are different things, your iq will get higher with age so don't panic, you'll get there",,Anonymous,,,,,1512497589 152132104,152150737,2017-12-05 18:13:09,">>152150567 > use your head > individualism is the biggest blight All of human history, every collectivist war, collectivist caused famine, collectivst denial of human rights would like to take you out back and kick your dumb fucking teeth in bubble'o'bill. You're obsolete cunt, just like this icecream.",,Anonymous,Streets-Bubble-OBill-Ice-Cream.jpg,9dkDBlsB2C5aQfZrF7HLpg==,,,1512497589 152132104,152150779,2017-12-05 18:13:38,,,Anonymous,1509266088332.png,aEJ4uBzbDG7YcDgzabNiFQ==,US,,1512497618 152132104,152150862,2017-12-05 18:14:35,">>152150714 >>152132861 I respect nazbols more than libertarians desu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cws3bhIr-Uw",,Anonymous,,,,,1512497675 152132104,152150928,2017-12-05 18:15:24,">>152150620 >physical removal >non-physical non-removal >equivalency hm. rely jogs teh almon nogin >>152150628 To a bunch of ""libertarians"", simply not agreeing with them they take as equivalent to an imminent threat. Read the posts in this thread - if you let the line be drawn at words, then the ship goes up in flames immediately because how people understand threats is utterly subjective.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512497724 152132104,152150959,2017-12-05 18:15:41,">>152150597 > for the greater good Humans are fucking animals, none of them can be trusted with absolute power when this mentality still pervades western society.",,Anonymous,1510272097782.jpg,E4/Xk1sf2Sr9J/uVo2SUyw==,,,1512497741 152132104,152151072,2017-12-05 18:16:50,">>152150737 >implying every implementation of human rights wasn't conceived by collectivists >implying kikery isn't the root of all war and famine rather than collectivism outright How is 10th grade?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512497810 152132104,152151136,2017-12-05 18:17:25,">>152150959 Humans aren't animals, which is one of the reasons why we treat animals completely differently than we treat humans. Do your best.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512497845 152132104,152151206,2017-12-05 18:18:03,">>152150399 history repeats itself friend >>152150464 actually, communism in the usa is banned under federal law, and their constitutional rights are not recognized",,TPM,,,,,1512497883 152132104,152151252,2017-12-05 18:18:27,">>152150928 > hm. rely jogs teh almon nogin I think what he means is that most of it was meant more of a property owners ostracizing commies thing, like you find out they're commie you don't renew their lease and when they squat you throw them out of society, you don't sell to them, you don't rent to them, you don't hire them and when they try and stay with no legit basis to, then you remove them physically. Rather than what spergs seem to think that you ought to go around the street on a witch hunt to purge suspected collectivists violently in every community like some sort of pseudo-collectivist. Hoppe should've spoken a little more clearly but spergs need to actually read and stop self-inserting imo.",,Anonymous,The-Orange-Book-Liberal-Democrats.jpg,zm8k/ih6IPmo1Z+F7s1VXw==,,,1512497907 152132104,152151263,2017-12-05 18:18:37,">>152151206 Human action is in the present and not in the past, guy.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512497917 152132104,152151368,2017-12-05 18:19:38,">>152150736 You seem to be forgetting the aspect of the person's intent. Socialists are not bad people, so apprehending/killing them for being socialists effectively casts you outside of the libertarian agenda.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512497978 152132104,152151512,2017-12-05 18:21:03,">>152151263 now that is just ignorant",,TPM,,,,,1512498063 152132104,152151570,2017-12-05 18:21:36,">>152151252 >property owners ostracizing commies >physical removal Do you see the obvious disconnect here? If someone is using your property wrongfully that's one thing, but you don't physically remove them from ""society"", you separate YOUR OWN property from them. You have no say in what others do or don't do with their own property. I'm not talking about Hoppe at all - I'm talking about the meme-spewing retards you witness all around you.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512498096 152132104,152151631,2017-12-05 18:22:00,">>152151072 > kikery > 10th grade > Wars aren't caused by statism > Wars aren't caused by tribal, us vs them, ingroup vs outgroup mentalities > Wars are totally caused by individuals interacting voluntarily for mutual benefit How's highschool autist? When are you going to get a job? > Communism isn't to blame, it's jews! > Religions aren't to blame, it's jews! > Tribalism isn't to blame, it's jews! > Government incentives aren't to blame, it's jews! Wow if only everything in life was so simple and didn't require any fucking fact or thought whatsoever.",,Anonymous,Tom-Cruise-crazy-laugh.gif,suZab3bIvh67FppWMzMc0w==,,,1512498120 152132104,152151657,2017-12-05 18:22:17,">>152151512 Concrete facts = ignorant in dipshit world it seems.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512498137 152132104,152151674,2017-12-05 18:22:23,">>152151206 >communism in the usa is banned under federal law Can you provide a link to back that up? Not doubting you, but I'm not American and don't know where to look. Interested to see how it's worded, and whether it carries thought police sentiments.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512498143 152132104,152151770,2017-12-05 18:23:16,Thomas Sowell is my nigga.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1512498196 152132104,152151801,2017-12-05 18:23:34,">>152151570 >property owners ostracizing commies >physical removal >Do you see the obvious disconnect here? > I'm not talking about Hoppe at all Oh, no I get what you mean 100%. I just think people if they're going to mention Hoppe should actually understand what he's trying to say but I understand what you're saying.",,Anonymous,1512225645969.jpg,D82wvagEnSTFXuhYV7pOxg==,,,1512498214 152132104,152151822,2017-12-05 18:23:45,">>152151657 i'm not going to argue this, because this is simply down to beliefs, all i can say is read jung on his archetypes",,TPM,,,,,1512498225 152132104,152151996,2017-12-05 18:25:19,">>152151674 heres a wiki link for intro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954",,TPM,,,,,1512498319 152132104,152151997,2017-12-05 18:25:20,">>152151770 Just bought this, just as good as his interviews. He writes the way he speaks so I can't help but read it in his voice which definitely bumps it up.",,Anonymous,The-Vision-Of-The-Annointed-Thomas-Sowell.jpg,ttRyJdU3m3sp/ZHvrrTpyA==,,,1512498320 152132104,152152013,2017-12-05 18:25:34,">>152151822 >because this is simply down to beliefs If you unironically believe human action isn't entirely bound to the present you're literally denying causal reality, which would not equate to a ""simple difference in beliefs"" but to you being objectively demonstrably wrong.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512498334 152132104,152152126,2017-12-05 18:26:37,">>152132104 Go move to Somalia you faggots",,Anonymous,,,,,1512498397 152132104,152152179,2017-12-05 18:27:06,">>152152013 okay then, just keep going and doing what you do, all i can do now is meme. so, >read a bood you nigger faggot",,TPM,jojoisdeep.jpg,OOergt+5K1o780n+8HbEXA==,,,1512498426 152132104,152152195,2017-12-05 18:27:15,">>152152126 The place that also has a central government and central bank?",,Praceteom,,,,,1512498435 152132104,152152785,2017-12-05 18:32:28,">>152132104 http://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/locke1689a.pdf John Locke's 2nd treatise on government. He makes a great case for private property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512498748 152132104,152152976,2017-12-05 18:34:18,">>152151996 Thanks chap. Gave me something new to think about.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512498858 152132104,152153562,2017-12-05 18:39:49,">>152152785 Unfortunately the largest intellectual legacy Locke has left to the average person in the world is his SCT bullshit.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512499189 152132104,152153753,2017-12-05 18:41:43,">>152132104 Hey /lrg/, I've got some questions. I'd like some recommend reading or resources. Not sure I'd become a full-blown ancap, but I am interested in minarchism. I am currently closest to a paleoconservative (although I do view certain traditionalist, protective policies of fascism as desirable), because it seems to be the most realistically attainable political system in terms of minimal governance and states' rights. Here are a few of my dilemmas, don't worry - they aren't roads. 1.) The military. How would the military look and operate in a minarchist/ancap society? Would it be privatized? Would each state have its own military, similar to the US under the AoC? Would it be militia-based? How would we prevent foreign militaries with large governments from trampling or interfering with our smaller one? 2.) Society and culture. Let's face it, there are a lot of people in society who would have difficulties in a minarchist society. Don't get me wrong, I hate welfare and I believe in the importance of IQ and its implications on class and status. However, how do we re-educate the population on how to survive without federal oversight and meddling? On top of that, how do we keep the private industry from preying on peoples' vices and degrading culture? How do we prevent advocates of larger, more intrusive government from gaining a foothold, as they have today? This is heavily prevalent in our society and I don't want to make the same mistakes our fathers did. 3.) The Union. Is a minarchist/ancap-oriented society supposed to realistically maintain the continental United States, or are we supposed to balkanize into smaller regions? 4.) Final question, the role of government. Borders? Minimal taxation? Standing military? Trust-busting? What is it? I'm not a concern-troll, and I have basic answers or presuppositions about these, however I'd like to hear your thoughts. Any recommended reading or listening would be appreciated, I do like Hoppe. Thanks in advance",,Anonymous,632090b0c78f4dd07f84fff0b84ef4c7.jpg,+Dwy+X3fsD98rJLShCoqow==,US,,1512499303 152132104,152153774,2017-12-05 18:41:49,">>152151631 >implying states can't exist without wars >implying statism in any way requires wars >implying wars aren't actually caused by a few individuals acting in their own individual interests >implying communism isn't a jewish invention >implying most religions haven't been compromised by jews >implying tribalism isn't the result of every successful nation in history >implying ""government incentives"" means fucking anything at all >unironically implying anarchism is a viable ideology Wow if only I hadn't read as little as you",,Anonymous,1502823190925.png,BeIZ/EewBqnJM9ev07E4Og==,US,,1512499309 152132104,152154041,2017-12-05 18:44:31,">>152153774 States can't exist without aggressive violence and extortion that they claim they can commit ""with legitimacy"" and deny that anyone else can commit. Whether you call anything a war or not doesn't change that demonstrable fact.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512499471 152132104,152154304,2017-12-05 18:46:49,">>152151368 who fucking cares how they feel about themselves? if they're planning criminal actions, they'll be handled like so",,Anonymous,,,,,1512499609 152132104,152154314,2017-12-05 18:46:55,">>152153753 >how do we re-educate the population on how to survive without federal oversight? Negative income tax, but it hasn't been tried anywhere in the world yet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512499615 152132104,152154739,2017-12-05 18:51:05,">>152154041 The NAP can't exist without individuals extorting one another with the threat of aggressive violence. With or without a state, someone is going to be enforcing the rules they choose to enforce with the threat of violence. Instead of having a unified institution which acts in the interests of your interests and freedoms and has laws to protect them, you would rather have the rules communally decided on and enforced individually, sacrificing efficiency, effectiveness, and cohesiveness for the sake of giving everybody a say in what everybody should be allowed to do? Is it really worth it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512499865 152132104,152154794,2017-12-05 18:51:29,">>152154304 That's why you differentiate between calls to revolution and incitement to violence, versus harmless discussion of how to help equalize society more. Most children think equality of outcome is optimal and just, and only when they grow up do they develop the capacity to understand the evil it would cause. Does that mean we should kill children and retards? You only take action when a line is about to be crossed, not when people merely consider what would happen if they contemplate it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512499889 152132104,152154921,2017-12-05 18:52:34,">>152154739 That's oxymoronic. Extortion necessarily violates the NAP, which by definition isn't libertarian. You're confused on what extortion means - here, I'll help you. >extortion >the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512499954 152132104,152155034,2017-12-05 18:53:39,">>152153562 IMO in the modern world, where God is irrelevant, most every useful piece of philosophy is pretty worthless. Most of the good arguments presuppose a belief in God, as does Locke, so it's hard to argue his points to most people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512500019 152132104,152155292,2017-12-05 18:55:57,">>152153774 >implying states can't exist without wars War is the health of the state, it's how it grows. Have you never read Rothbard? How it swells in pride and justification? Just because some states use the US to fight their battles and protect them doesn't mean war isn't the realm of statism. >implying wars aren't actually caused by a few individuals acting in their own individual interests That's not how they are justified are they? You have to ask and answer one very serious and simple question, are millions of people whipped up into a frenzy to die in war because some guy said he wanted something, or because the conflict was justified through fear of an outgroup and pride of an ingroup, the muslim hordes are coming, the protestants are coming, the pagans are at the gate, they hate our gods, they had our peoples, they want to enslave us etc etc > jews > jews > jews When you say that it just shows that you're not trying to understand and learn from history. > government incentives You don't understand how wars allow governments to swell in power and size? Look at the policies that come out of WW1 and WW2 dickhead or the policies of the roman dictators, or any other part of history holy shit don't act so dumb.",,Anonymous,4412348689c875604f88a3620dee443f9c9a5414f1d5e3203d81787cd1c481b4.jpg,lel4srfUixMH7u57LC8L5Q==,,,1512500157 152132104,152155362,2017-12-05 18:56:29,">>152155034 Whether people believe in God or not, reality is the way it is, and we'll all find out in the end. I find most people are fairly lost causes because people don't listen to strangers. That's too bad for them.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512500189 152132104,152155489,2017-12-05 18:57:42,">>152154794 no, that leads to corruption, you remove the tumors before they put everything at stake just because you know, a tumor's nature is to spread and get you killed",,Anonymous,,,,,1512500262 152132104,152155843,2017-12-05 19:00:49,">>152155489 Well, you do you, but don't call yourself a libertarian if that's how you'd handle things.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512500449 152132104,152155961,2017-12-05 19:01:48,">>152154921 Say two individuals in an ancap society both want a space of land and come to a disagreement. Neither of them wants to compromise and both of them want the same space of land. They have already been through every avenue of discussion, neither of them needs it more than the other, but they both want it for their own reasons. How do they resolve this conflict without one of them violating the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512500508 152132104,152156186,2017-12-05 19:03:48,Mind if I post some aesthetics?,,Anonymous,20171107172402_glitch.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,US,,1512500628 152132104,152156245,2017-12-05 19:04:16,">>152155961 >both want a space of land If it's not homesteaded whoever homesteads it first it's his and the other guy is wrong - whatever happens after the fact is up to whatever it is they decide to do, which can be an infinite number of different things.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512500656 152132104,152156273,2017-12-05 19:04:30,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1512500670 152132104,152156428,2017-12-05 19:05:51,">>152132104 The State of Jefferson is a collection of Northern California counties that want to separate from Commiefornia and establish a free state based on an originalist reading of the US constitution. They plan to escape the increasing tyranny of the Californian State Assembly and their slide into degeneracy. > Background info & Quick Rundown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLKGuEVdC0Y > Gun Rights in Jefferson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI5Xr5Bjwbg > The Full Rundown on How to destroy California: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXjDB_V84tY >Offical Website: www.soj51.org How have you helped to destroy California today?",,Anonymous,State of pol.png,bpySs5q9Ef5ZI5v+HV2qkw==,AU,,1512500751 152132104,152156468,2017-12-05 19:06:16,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1508013366000.jpg,zycADtwMBj2ff44t2cV8YA==,US,,1512500776 152132104,152156520,2017-12-05 19:06:41,">>152156245 They both came across it at the exact same time. Name one possible solution without either of them compromising or violating the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512500801 152132104,152156523,2017-12-05 19:06:42,">>152132104 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jINv79cVObk",,Anonymous,1493477347538.jpg,Zlwl8JuHd98typ+W3NqGjQ==,US,,1512500802 152132104,152156656,2017-12-05 19:07:52,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502913433000.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,US,,1512500872 152132104,152156726,2017-12-05 19:08:39,">>152156520 >They both came across it at the exact same time >it What is ""it""? Land isn't a monolithic thing. The men are spacially distinct entities, and can't occupy the same place at the same time as a matter of fact, so they're NOT in the same place at the same time and therefore CAN'T homestead the same place at the same time.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512500919 152132104,152156775,2017-12-05 19:09:00,Some memes and shitposting too,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-30-12.13.41.jpg,KWL1SmgmvwsNxUeCLbcgyA==,US,,1512500940 152132104,152156862,2017-12-05 19:09:44,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-16-12.22.00.jpg,Q/JPi1kUf9OQvwWLf7LyzA==,US,,1512500984 152132104,152156880,2017-12-05 19:09:50,">the most cucked thread on all of 4chan Thanks goys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512500990 152132104,152156975,2017-12-05 19:10:40,"""You are already removed, so to speak""",,Anonymous,PicsArt_10-17-08.50.23.jpg,ZzoxJDkIHsm4XAv/bymdhA==,US,,1512501040 152132104,152157255,2017-12-05 19:13:10,">>152156726 Two men enter an empty field at the exact same time. The field is 10 acres. They walk up to each other and start talking. One man wants to use the 10 acres to farm x crop or he and his family will starve. The other man wants to use the 10 acres to farm y crop or he and his family will starve. How do they resolve this conflict without one of them violating the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512501190 152132104,152157520,2017-12-05 19:15:34,">>152157255 >Two men enter an empty field at the exact same time ""An empty field"" is not one object. They're in different places necessarily. Does that fact - that land isn't some irreducible simple to some arbitrary number of units of measurement - not make sense to you?",,Praceteom,,,,,1512501334 152132104,152157832,2017-12-05 19:18:19,">>152132104 TAXATION IS THEFT",,Anonymous,2016-03-20-taxation.jpg,lke12Yx0kA/e7ftxRddNHw==,,,1512501499 152132104,152157839,2017-12-05 19:18:23,">>152157255 If nobody owns the field, they could each agree to split the 10 acres and cooperate. Or, the better farmer could agree to farm and sell food to the other family in exchange for money. Or, the two could agree to share the property. They can come to an agreement on their own terms. I'm not even an ancap but coming up with a number of solutions is relatively simple. If you believe that the scenario is going to end in one family killing the other suddenly in an autistic spergrage, then perhaps you and the families you envision aren't too smart.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512501503 152132104,152157977,2017-12-05 19:19:40,">>152157520 Yeah nothing you just said makes any sense and doesn't answer the question you fucking moron. Your meme definition of ""land"" is irrelevant, both men NEED this specific field of fertile soil, which measures in at 10 acres, or they and their family will starve to death. How do they resolve this conflict without violating the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512501580 152132104,152158044,2017-12-05 19:20:18,">>152157839 The family paying for food could in exchange use their skillsets to hunt or protect while the other family farms. I didn't spell it initially although I should have. They can agree and make their own terms.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512501618 152132104,152158215,2017-12-05 19:21:55,">>152149510 You're pozzed & a coward, dummy. t. Ego Gang",,Anonymous,1508296114334.png,8axZe4jHRoggDIVRRuQeig==,US,,1512501715 152132104,152158312,2017-12-05 19:23:02,">>152157839 I just said they already went through every avenue of discussion. Both men need the field in its full size. Neither of them have anything they can spare, if they don't get the field and farm it in full they will die, and they will barely have enough to live on the field as is. Assume the size of the field is however big it would be realistically for you to understand here. >in exchange for money Who is printing money in this society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512501782 152132104,152158403,2017-12-05 19:23:53,">>152158044 The field is not big enough for both men and their families. Neither men can spare any food they get from farming it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512501833 152132104,152158552,2017-12-05 19:25:20,">>152157977 >Yeah nothing you just said makes any sense Let me dumb this down even further. You have a 10 acre space. If you halve that 10 acre space, you now have two 5 acre spaces. If you half each of those spaces you now have four 2.5 acre spaces. You keep reducing the space. At what point of this process of shrinking how you're measuring land does it become impossible for someone to own that shrunken unit of space? If it's ""no point"" - which is the obvious answer - then two men can't homestead the same land at the same time, because the men themselves are necessarily in different spaces by virtue of having bodies, and thus whatever land they're on is distinct from the land the other is on.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512501920 152132104,152158827,2017-12-05 19:28:00,">>152158552 >You have a 10 acre space. Yes and both men need that entire 10 acre space or they and their families are going to starve to death. No room or food to spare for the other man. How do they resolve this conflict without violating the NAP? Why is this so fucking hard for you to understand?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512502080 152132104,152159088,2017-12-05 19:30:47,">>152132104 >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE Literally jsut conservatism. Fucking kill yourselves. You aren't special and you certainly aren't smart.",,Anonymous,,,,,1512502247 152132104,152159319,2017-12-05 19:33:02,">>152159088 Filthy commies need to get off by property.",,Anonymous,physicalremoval.png,Snf/HWtyehaxDGgHg6OIcw==,,,1512502382 152132104,152159431,2017-12-05 19:34:12,">>152156520 > they both came across it at the exact same time > name a solution without either of them compromising Wow your little straw man seems to be smoking. What use is a completely boxed in and contribed scenario, that is both unrealistic and ignores all the important factors like how both of them actually would act in the scenario and what their personal choices are and the 3rd parties they involved, not ours because we aren't fucking there.",,Anonymous,1512430410993.jpg,IwYYT98AJ+UmKZaoqhntYg==,,,1512502452 152132104,152159588,2017-12-05 19:35:47,">>152159088 Yeah I have no idea wtf a Left-Libertarian is these days. Are they talking about traditional ancoms like Bakunin/Proudhon? Are they talking about Jeffrey Tucker style right-wing Libertarians? These collectivist categories are dumb as always.",,Anonymous,1512435809170.jpg,xEaqvn9G65utbZLW7sK54Q==,,,1512502547 152132104,152159620,2017-12-05 19:36:04,">*might* be able to relax government overreach IF they ever stop getting psyopped and sabotaged >""durr tupid dum dum bad duh huh"" go back to twitter nerd",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512502564 152132104,152160599,2017-12-05 19:45:10,">>152158312 >>152158403 There's a big fat niggers forcing you to suck his dick. You're in an alley. He isn't going to kill you. No matter what you do, you are forced to suck his dick. Because of my inability to create a realistic scenario, you are now a niggerdicksucking faggot. Checkmate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512503110 152132104,152161158,2017-12-05 19:50:00,">>152158827 Jesus Christ, how in all hell did you go from who owns property to who thinks they need it more? Are you intentionally ignoring what is being explained to you?",,Praceteom,,,,,1512503400 152132104,152163633,2017-12-05 20:11:59,">>152160599 Kek. Don't forget Libertarian aliens come down and scan their brains to find out which one is more genetically predisposed to liberty and vapourizes the other one before flying away.",,Anonymous,1512435283107.jpg,1wSUdd0Qaz+rv/3WYrrYhQ==,,,1512504719 152132104,152163727,2017-12-05 20:12:33,Capitalism is just as subversive as Marxism,,Anonymous,evola-knew.jpg,YfqNKv0uNDZgRJV3S0kHmQ==,US,,1512504753 152132104,152164539,2017-12-05 20:20:00,">>152163727 > freedom is as subversive as all the other collectivist memes justifying endless conflict and violence Herpa fucking Evolian derp, better deny reality for some mystical unprovable aristocratic power fantasy. Why do I have to get a job says Marx, I'm a genius! Why do I have to get a job says Evola, I'm a Baron....and a genius!",,Anonymous,Fairy-Dust.gif,qtD4T2pkEb6cqCPkihRVgw==,,,1512505200 152132104,152165356,2017-12-05 20:27:49,">>152164539 >fails to see his ideology is just as materialist as marxism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1512505669 152132104,152166306,2017-12-05 20:36:02,">>152165356 >he thinks spirtuality come from ideology and not from the person",,TPM,,,,,1512506162 152132104,152166619,2017-12-05 20:38:43,">>152165356 ""Materialism"" is a meme. Yes people have lost some important values and have been focussing on weird shit in life that I don't personally think should be as big a focus, but people getting their material wants and needs in a world of scarcity where the entirety of human history has been a struggle for survival, to the point where we actually have art, literature and technology enough for almost every individual on earth to puruse their own purposes and higher truths in life rather than it being confined to a privileged few, like Ebola and his butthurt about losing his social status with the destruction of the old aristocracy and the old nobility. Materialism is a surface assumption that ignores the underlying, and while an important critique, abandoning everything material to justify authoritarian collectivism has got to be one of the most ridiculous leaps in logic I have ever seen....oh sorry I forgot Ebola doesn't like logic, he has his ""higher truths"" he thinks everyone should kill eachother over. Get fucked Ebola-chan.",,Anonymous,1508466707151.jpg,Q6SNWp+Mzpy7FMuy0mj2XQ==,,,1512506323 152132104,152167086,2017-12-05 20:42:56,">>152165356 >materialist That's funny since I'm a zealous Christian anti-consequantialist.",,Praceteom,,,,,1512506576 152132104,152167275,2017-12-05 20:44:23,">>152165356 >>152166306 Well said. > It is not from a disdain of spiritual goods that liberalism concerns itself exclusively with man’s material well-being, but from a conviction that what is highest and deepest in man cannot be touched by any outward regulation. It seeks to produce only outer well-being because it knows that inner, spiritual riches cannot come to man from without, but only from within his own heart. It does not aim at creating anything but the outward preconditions for the development of the inner life. - The Master of Praxeology Himself",,Anonymous,Mises-Wine-Water-Quote.jpg,DObGD3VDp9n/p7Pqh6PxIg==,,,1512506663 153040913,153040913,2017-12-12 20:56:47,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - KILL A COMMIE BEFORE HE KILLS YOU,Anonymous,LibRightGen.png,DAo6xn5yvke1kVAw7+HlUQ==,US,,1513112207 153040913,153041007,2017-12-12 20:57:21,gay,,Anonymous,,,US,,1513112241 153040913,153041019,2017-12-12 20:57:23,,,Anonymous,The Family_Full.png,CBwhYh4z7kc8lqDhV7HmLw==,US,,1513112243 153040913,153041075,2017-12-12 20:57:42,,,Anonymous,Dignity.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,US,,1513112262 153040913,153041220,2017-12-12 20:58:21,">>153041007 you're gay.",,Anonymous,NAP.png,5v04RK6lxulDymSQKrmI3A==,US,,1513112301 153040913,153041227,2017-12-12 20:58:23,A Jewish Ideology.,,Anonymous,,,,,1513112303 153040913,153041341,2017-12-12 20:58:57,">>153040913 Show your libertarian phone paper, /lrg/ Bump for property rights",,Anonymous,62806790-A37A-47C6-B3AC-27F8771F4245.png,BlUzD9Qi1TQ8sBlVcpbWVg==,US,,1513112337 153040913,153041363,2017-12-12 20:59:04,">>153040913 >libertarian right Literally a contradiction",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513112344 153040913,153041387,2017-12-12 20:59:10,">>153041220 damn, I've been BTFO",,Anonymous,beardeugene.jpg,CQx5qWSrqXhy6A6nQj437Q==,US,,1513112350 153040913,153041532,2017-12-12 20:59:47,">>153041363 >national socialist Literally a contradiction.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513112387 153040913,153041554,2017-12-12 20:59:49,">>153041363 Libertarianism is your nations tradition. Its quite literally conservative or reactionary to be a libertarian.",,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1513112389 153040913,153041679,2017-12-12 21:00:26,">>153041227 Jews contributed greatly, so have non-Jews. Our Jews are hated by the (((other))) Jews though, and logically sound is logically sound no matter where it comes from.",,Anonymous,B32715ED-4C69-436A-9B92-DDB4A420E698.jpg,SmpoBbjmCFG4PnWQtZpzgA==,US,,1513112426 153040913,153041777,2017-12-12 21:00:54,>>153041341,,Anonymous,Screenshot_2017-12-12-21-00-19.png,S28OEnndC8dTaFystPU51g==,US,,1513112454 153040913,153041870,2017-12-12 21:01:27,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1513112487 153040913,153041931,2017-12-12 21:01:49,,,Anonymous,Ancap.png,ekRLw3QrrHBNxuqdBs+hEA==,US,,1513112509 153040913,153042040,2017-12-12 21:02:22,,,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1513112542 153040913,153042232,2017-12-12 21:03:22,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,,1513112602 153040913,153042434,2017-12-12 21:04:23,,,Anonymous,misc (4).jpg,loryyDKMeZx40HWKilOZfw==,US,,1513112663 153040913,153042511,2017-12-12 21:04:55,,,Anonymous,1434746073350.jpg,A3K2RGPEFVeZrvy2Fx6Fjg==,US,,1513112695 153040913,153042540,2017-12-12 21:05:04,">>153041532 No it isn't. >>153041554 >Libertarianism is your nations tradition. Wrong. Libertarian is a Jewish ideology invented in the 20th century. >Its quite literally conservative or reactionary to be a libertarian. No, it is not. America is, by definition, left wing and anti-conservative",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513112704 153040913,153042981,2017-12-12 21:07:43,Why won't you accept that mutualism is the only way?,,Anonymous,,,,,1513112863 153040913,153043078,2017-12-12 21:08:21,">>153042981 why won't you go back to sucking cocks you gay nigger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513112901 153040913,153043243,2017-12-12 21:09:20,">>153042540 America is not left wing by definition you dumb faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1513112960 153040913,153043263,2017-12-12 21:09:26,">>153040913 bumping base op",,Anonymous,579.png,jcuFgF/UVjHAEH1iRwPKuw==,,,1513112966 153040913,153043354,2017-12-12 21:10:02,">>153042540 America was founded on libertarianism, to be a conservative in America means to be a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513113002 153040913,153043366,2017-12-12 21:10:06,">>153043078 Wow what a compelling argument. Time to reevaluate things.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513113006 153040913,153043629,2017-12-12 21:11:35,,,Anonymous,unknown (13).png,3YXlS1JeX20yA76UhRQxBw==,US,,1513113095 153040913,153043656,2017-12-12 21:11:41,"Taxes aren't theft. Discuss.",,Anonymous,jonpall.jpg,u4xY6snoIFJFUlT3cWrjKw==,US,,1513113101 153040913,153043980,2017-12-12 21:13:38,">>153043629 Stop namefagging",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513113218 153040913,153044096,2017-12-12 21:14:16,,,Anonymous,Race2.png,/LKNdQt4/TevYTtteG1hSQ==,US,,1513113256 153040913,153044691,2017-12-12 21:17:48,">>153043243 Yes it is. Bourgeois plutocratic liberalism is the origin of the term ""left wing,"" retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513113468 153040913,153044830,2017-12-12 21:18:31,">>153043656 > Taxes aren't theft you're a dumbass Discuss.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513113511 153040913,153044971,2017-12-12 21:19:22,">>153043354 >America was founded on libertarianism No it wasn't. Libertarianism did not exist until the 20th century. And I'm not a conservative, so I don't care what American conservativism means. America is a Jewish nigger shit hole that needs to be destroyed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513113562 153040913,153045041,2017-12-12 21:19:42,">>153043656 He was truly an aspect of Thor",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1513113582 153040913,153045090,2017-12-12 21:19:55,">>153044830 >calling someone a dumbass when your whole ideology if made a reality would get instantly colonized by China and or Russia WEW",,Anonymous,1494812058194.jpg,FPZff3CYC92G/NP+qwFnMg==,US,,1513113595 153040913,153045328,2017-12-12 21:21:14,">>153044971 In the past Libertarianism was called ""liberalism"". Unfortunately the modern liberals have succeeded in stealing it's name and turning into the complete opposite, so the ""classical liberals"" adopted a new name: Libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513113674 153040913,153045338,2017-12-12 21:21:16,">>153045041 Sad what happened to him. I think WSM definitely got majorly maimed by his death, and fully died when Magnus was done/forced out. It's still sometimes interesting, but it's so soul-less. Back in the day it was so fun to watch and interesting, now it's just steel and sponsors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513113676 153040913,153045471,2017-12-12 21:22:06,B U M P,,TPM,1492548195893.png,siCy/G146TpUAgpJiqEvCg==,,,1513113726 153040913,153045586,2017-12-12 21:22:43,"Reminder that if you think you're justified in attacking people for ""thought crimes"" that you aren't a libertarian at all.",,Praceteom,1478547201018.png,7VLk+TlMyQYpkTxx2s2whA==,,,1513113763 153040913,153045723,2017-12-12 21:23:38,">>153040913 I would support a fully libertarian state so long as the entire welfare system, 100% of it was dismantled because within a generation the niggers and spicks would massively starve and flee, and the violent ones would get fucking stomped by no rulz tactical nuke wielding private armies. But we both know that won't happen. At best you will get some watered down bullshit that includes open borders AND watered down welfare state which will inevitably collapse after untold suffering for the white race, only to in the end be replaced by national socialism. at worst your paradise just swarms the first world with the third world and the entire world sinks back into darkness.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513113818 153040913,153045761,2017-12-12 21:23:51,">>153044830 Theft is a legal term and only holds meaning under law. State creates the law and defines what is and is not theft. Therefore taxes are not theft. Technically, all goods within the dominion of the state are property of the state (by real definition of property). Then the state grants subsidiary property rights, which it can repossess in the form of taxes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513113831 153040913,153045836,2017-12-12 21:24:17,">>153045586 Reminder that if they are on your property its fair game, this applies for our communities as well",,TPM,,,,,1513113857 153040913,153045929,2017-12-12 21:24:55,">>153045328 >In the past Libertarianism was called ""liberalism"". No it wasn't. Libertarianism is not the same as liberalism that the USA was founded on.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513113895 153040913,153045933,2017-12-12 21:24:57,"Post blockies I was literally at 15k on thanksgiving. This has been the single greatest month of my life.",,Anonymous,IMG_5038.png,l6jhT5ix53/3YnsD9iMAWQ==,US,,1513113897 153040913,153045943,2017-12-12 21:25:00,">>153040913 Just a reminder that lolbertarian losers believe in ""private borders"" kek fucking retards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513113900 153040913,153046079,2017-12-12 21:25:58,Who /anarcho-capitalist-traditionalist-Catholic-from-the-Old-South/ here?,,Anonymous,confederate-papist (2).png,eh33ezt0grD8G5B7WCRROA==,US,,1513113958 153040913,153046098,2017-12-12 21:26:03,">>153043656 Theft: coerced transfer of property Tax: coerced transfer of money Simple syllogism.",,Anonymous,ホッパの奇妙な冒険.jpg,4FVyF2Lx+AQiaN3mrficdw==,US,,1513113963 153040913,153046130,2017-12-12 21:26:16,">>153045836 >Reminder that if they are on your property its fair game Reminder that if you think it's reasonable to murder people merely because they walked on your property that you're a psychopath and nobody in their right mind would ever want to deal with a person like that.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513113976 153040913,153046160,2017-12-12 21:26:24,Anarcho-capitalism in a nutshell.,,Anonymous,file.png,8K71S0CqtlxkWr6/C84BkQ==,US,,1513113984 153040913,153046463,2017-12-12 21:28:10,">>153045929 NUH UH!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114090 153040913,153046526,2017-12-12 21:28:28,">>153045586 (you)",,Anonymous,snek.jpg,E+uktr0bTHLWdFDrtGUlqA==,US,,1513114108 153040913,153046592,2017-12-12 21:28:50,"Define hyper individualism. I support lowering taxes, and a government that’s as small as possible. All 3 letter federal agencies are too large and need to be scaled back. Regulations need to be minimized as much as possible but not to the point that workers and consumers suffer. Do I fit in here?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114130 153040913,153046607,2017-12-12 21:28:56,">>153045933 I remember this portfolio from /biz/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114136 153040913,153046634,2017-12-12 21:29:05,">>153046130 good hopefully that keeps you filthy asswipes away from our towns, i know it won't though, your whiny type would lobby the gobberment to destroy us in another waco",,TPM,,,,,1513114145 153040913,153046942,2017-12-12 21:30:40,">>153045338 This. What made Jón special was the character he put into it.",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1513114240 153040913,153046993,2017-12-12 21:30:53,">>153046098 That is not the definition of theft.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114253 153040913,153047012,2017-12-12 21:31:00,">>153045090 No their private borders and militias will stop them! kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114260 153040913,153047021,2017-12-12 21:31:02,,,Anonymous,Hoppe quote.jpg,oODt2L5Psj5PFgc04lpqfg==,AU,,1513114262 153040913,153047036,2017-12-12 21:31:06,">>153046592 close enough, join our discord for 24/7 lrg. since you are minarchist everyone gonna wanna talk with you to see how your view hold up",,TPM,,,,,1513114266 153040913,153047158,2017-12-12 21:31:42,">>153046130 What's it like having extreme autism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114302 153040913,153047338,2017-12-12 21:32:36,">>153046634 l a r p",,Praceteom,,,,,1513114356 153040913,153047434,2017-12-12 21:33:04,">>153046592 I'm pretty sure that's Minarchism friend.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114384 153040913,153047448,2017-12-12 21:33:09,">>153046607 then you've seen what's happened in the past month fuck man, this is ridiculous. I've put in a total of 3k into crypto.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114389 153040913,153047540,2017-12-12 21:33:40,">>153046592 Wanting to minimize regulations while caring about the welfare of workers or consumers is an oxymoron. Minimal regulations is about freer markets.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114420 153040913,153047541,2017-12-12 21:33:40,"Voluntary monarchs and White ethno-covenants NOW 14/888",,Anonymous,GET TO THE HOPPE.jpg,xG/KnRin4JoNWoMMdux8DQ==,AU,,1513114420 153040913,153047561,2017-12-12 21:33:48,">>153044830 Curious, why do Libertarians believe that taxation is theft? Surely you must be willing to contribute some wealth for the good of society, that is, if it's wealth in the hands of people who use it properly. What argument can be made against taxation? I've only ever heard libertarians say taxation is theft, but I've never ever heard them explain why.",,Anonymous,1493321613841.png,bC/CoP4iIMSRxBTn9a8QHw==,,,1513114428 153040913,153047626,2017-12-12 21:34:03,">>153046592 That's minarchism. Welcome to the club",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114443 153040913,153047700,2017-12-12 21:34:26,">>153047338 Nice argument",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114466 153040913,153047948,2017-12-12 21:35:54,">>153047700 >""I think it's reasonable to murder people who walk across my driveway!"" >you're LARPing >""heh not an arguement xD""",,Praceteom,,,,,1513114554 153040913,153047953,2017-12-12 21:35:54,">>153046463 It's the truth. All the concepts of libertarianism, such as the NAP and absolute private property rights, were invented by Jews in the 20th century and are foreign to 18th-19th century Anglo liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114554 153040913,153048122,2017-12-12 21:36:51,"Daily reminder that Libertarianism =/= Egoism. Libertarians recognize that society exists and that cooperation within society is an important part of society and the division of labour in a free economy with free individuals. We don't need a thief's permission, voluntary alternatives to the state are voluntary of those that engage their services.",,Anonymous,Ancap-Flag-Egoist-Flag.jpg,i1zk5gZIJLh3j2VA+8Wr6A==,,,1513114611 153040913,153048528,2017-12-12 21:38:40,">>153047948 I'm guessing you're a pro open borders ancap.",,Anonymous,cucker.png,8HH/VMsFa9hqDM8VnQNlVA==,US,,1513114720 153040913,153048593,2017-12-12 21:38:59,">>153047948 Murdering people who walk across your driveway is perfectly fine, as long as there are no/little consequences for it. I imagine in ancap land you would not see much consequence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114739 153040913,153048759,2017-12-12 21:39:54,">>153047561 Here's a short video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPKg-3KxJ00",,Praceteom,,,,,1513114794 153040913,153048810,2017-12-12 21:40:12,">>153047948 Considering the majority of their discord is literal minors (you can look at it) this kind of logic by them isn't surprising.",,Anonymous,sm.png,UML388CcqhYvoX2F7rIGxg==,US,,1513114812 153040913,153048870,2017-12-12 21:40:32,">>153047541 this but unironically",,Anonymous,,,,,1513114832 153040913,153048874,2017-12-12 21:40:33,">>153048593 what about the consequence that people will know you're a an irrational killer and ostrasize you and excommunicate you from the community?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114833 153040913,153048987,2017-12-12 21:41:10,">>153048528 Property is property - you can exclude people from your property. But that's by no means an endorsement of you or anyone else murdering people over something as trivial as walking across your driveway.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513114870 153040913,153049063,2017-12-12 21:41:32,">>153048528 > pro open borders ancap What is that? What is an open borders free society? Ancap has no borders, it has private property. Stopping the free movement of people without the right (like them being on your property) is immoral and stupid, being selecting with the people you let into your house or office building or drive on your roads, that's just common sense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513114892 153040913,153049125,2017-12-12 21:41:54,">>153046592 >>153048122 Why do you believe regulations on private industry need to lowered? Shouldn't there be some standard regulations to products so that the consumers of said products aren't mislead, or, you know, harmed. What about harm to the environment? Pollution? What about regulations of income or the conditions of workers? Hierarchy is needed to be formed in society, no doubt. You can't have a civilisation without it. What of health/dental care for people that actually need it? Are they expected to pay for it themselves or have their companies pay for them? Surely there is more to society than just mere economics. That's what sets us apart from libertarians, we don't worship money, money is just a tool.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513114914 153040913,153049133,2017-12-12 21:41:56,">>153048874 >the community ???",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513114916 153040913,153049164,2017-12-12 21:42:05,">>153047561 We are absolutely fine with the collectivisation of property for the sake of social organisation. But for that collectivisation to be ethical and efficient, it needs to be voluntary. There needs to be a real social contract. It is theft when an IRS agent knocks your door down and throws you in prison because you didn't hand over 30% of your income. It is also theft when a communist ""seizes"" your factory. I would rather people donate to the Church, since it is a better social institution than the state. And if people want governments for the purpose of justice or defence, then that too can be organised privately. That's the wonderful thing about European people. Through the power of private property and free association, we are capable of coercion-free social organisation.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513114925 153040913,153049200,2017-12-12 21:42:17,">>153048593 That's psychopathic. That is not a reasonable response at all - it's murderous and evil.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513114937 153040913,153049294,2017-12-12 21:42:41,">>153040913 any of you fags got a torrent for that hoppe book called the short history of man or whatsits",,Anonymous,,,,,1513114961 153040913,153049382,2017-12-12 21:43:06,">>153048593 I doubt people would want to live in a community with a madman that kills people for walking on his driveway. He'd surely get lynched.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513114986 153040913,153049428,2017-12-12 21:43:21,">>153049294 https://mises.org/library/short-history-man-progress-and-decline Here you go",,Anonymous,tsaravatar.jpg,EDEmvnBJNn/9RNRlJywlEQ==,US,,1513115001 153040913,153049507,2017-12-12 21:43:43,">>153048874 That would only be a consequence if you lived around moralfags and christcucks, who would all be killed very early on in ancap land anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115023 153040913,153049520,2017-12-12 21:43:46,">>153049200 see >>153047158 a symptom of autism is taking things too literally",,Anonymous,,,,,1513115026 153040913,153049566,2017-12-12 21:44:04,">>153049063 But why ancap? why is it immoral? by who's right can my property be infringed upon?",,TPM,,,,,1513115044 153040913,153049591,2017-12-12 21:44:10,">>153049063 >selecting the people you let into your house or office building or drive on your roads, that's just common sense. Ok, what about the people you let into your gated community, or nation-state?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513115050 153040913,153049596,2017-12-12 21:44:11,">>153047540 Well I recognize the need for some level of regulation. I don’t want to go back to child labor and slave wages. But I believe there is now government overreach and over regulation in every industry, across the board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115051 153040913,153049692,2017-12-12 21:44:40,">>153047626 Thanks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115080 153040913,153049968,2017-12-12 21:45:53,">>153049596 How so? Is it the overreach itself that's causing an issue or the specific regulations being imposed?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115153 153040913,153050069,2017-12-12 21:46:18,">>153049520 >taking things too literally >>153048593 >Murdering people who walk across your driveway is perfectly fine He's LARPing or he's a psychopath, which are both things I've suggested. You decide which - my guess is LARP.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513115178 153040913,153050120,2017-12-12 21:46:34,">>153049200 >psychopathic Meaningless pseudoscientific psychological terminology. >That is not a reasonable response at all It is if you know there will be little or no consequences. >It's murderous Obviously. It's murder >and evil I'm not 8 years old, so I don't believe in fairy tales. ""Evil"" is not real. Only cause and effect is real.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115194 153040913,153050202,2017-12-12 21:46:55,">>153046993 Then I implore you: enlighten me. What is the definition of theft?",,Anonymous,conan.jpg,d7tPN7azuMEwt628doRhAA==,US,,1513115215 153040913,153050213,2017-12-12 21:46:59,">>153049428 oh shit lmao thanks bby",,Anonymous,,,,,1513115219 153040913,153050292,2017-12-12 21:47:24,">>153040913 Nap doesn't work because of niggers and Jews You will all be natsoc In the us we can call it natcap the name was ironic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115244 153040913,153050406,2017-12-12 21:48:00,">>153050120 I don't care what you think of the term, because other people have a general idea of what it means and know that it is applicable to people who think murdering someone for walking across their driveway is perfectly fine.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513115280 153040913,153050684,2017-12-12 21:49:34,">>153049382 >He'd surely get lynched. Then it was those people who really owned his property and you're admitting you don't believe in absolute private property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115374 153040913,153050877,2017-12-12 21:50:38,">>153050202 It is a legal term, defined by the state, and has no meaning prior to that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115438 153040913,153051031,2017-12-12 21:51:29,">>153049164 >>153048759 An interesting point. But in any case, how does the state make money if it can't tax its citizens? Is everything merely privately owned? The IRS believe it or not is actually a private company that LENDS money to the government for spending, and then the government taxes us to pay for these loans. That's how the concept of money is generated in the modern world. I'm interested to see how you believe the ideal libertarian state would handle its currency and then I'll tell you mine. Interesting discussion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513115489 153040913,153051065,2017-12-12 21:51:39,">>153050684 >Then it was those people who really owned his property That's not the case at all. If he were attacked, it wouldn't be because other people owned his property, it's because he murdered a person for crossing a driveway. The mob's excuse wouldn't be ""we own your property"", it'd be ""you murdered Stan for crossing a driveway you psychopath"".",,Praceteom,,,,,1513115499 153040913,153051087,2017-12-12 21:51:45,">>153050406 >people who think murdering someone for walking across their driveway is perfectly fine. All of these people will be killed quite early in ancap land.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115505 153040913,153051106,2017-12-12 21:51:51,">>153049591 > your nation-state My nation state? > let into your gated community Who is responsible for the entrance and control of the gated community? Like I said, there's no borders as we know them and yes businesses like foot traffic to their shopping centers, but they also don't like damages, and they don't like grubs going to what is essentially public property that they own and allow people to move on and private property is private property. If you want conflict within a society, follow the collectivists with their endless dividing of people within a society among dozens of bullshit category just to get popular and start a fight ""us vs them"" if you want peace and security, go for property rights and trade. That's what I've come to believe after looking into it anyways.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513115511 153040913,153051210,2017-12-12 21:52:31,">>153051031 I don't think there should be a state at all. I don't know what state agents do that only they can do that anyone would want done in the first place.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513115551 153040913,153052078,2017-12-12 21:56:56,">>153050877 I really do hate stirnerites like you, but I'll give you props for at least being coherent and intelligible, which is not something you really find on this board.",,Anonymous,Calvin and Spooks.png,ivVHHqiEMCxIde4WJTqOMA==,US,,1513115816 153040913,153052289,2017-12-12 21:58:10,">>153051210 >I don't think there should be a state at all This is the equivalent of saying ""I don't think power differentials should exist."" Which is the equivalent of saying ""I don't think humans should exist."" It's either anti-human or nonsensical.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115890 153040913,153052308,2017-12-12 21:58:16,">>153051210 No state?!? Then who maintains regulation of, income, currency, healthcare, electrical power, food, water, military, and pollution?!? Surely you don't think private institutions would merely give up product, time, and effort in order to regulate their own institution if they could get away with it? Who writes the laws or keeps order? Who builds the infrastructure?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513115896 153040913,153052362,2017-12-12 21:58:38,">>153051065 >it wouldn't be because other people owned his property I didn't say it was ""because"" of that. What's the point of that reply? It's not about the mob's excuse. Their act of lynching him on that property to uphold some social norm means that they're the ones who actually owned it and were basically just leasing it to him under a social contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513115918 153040913,153052560,2017-12-12 21:59:43,">>153051031 >But in any case, how does the state make money if it can't tax its citizens? Donations via consumer demand. You would simply pay to live in certain covenants. >Is everything merely privately owned? Yes, everything would be privately owned, but sharing would be very prevalent. >how you believe the ideal libertarian state would handle its currency Voluntarily",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513115983 153040913,153052611,2017-12-12 22:00:02,">>153052289 Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. A state is like a body. It has intricate components to it that make it tick and function. No state is no body.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513116002 153040913,153053153,2017-12-12 22:02:59,">>153052560 But anon, what if people don't want to share? What if they don't want to make donations? How are the other millions of people off if they fit into a criteria of poverty? Do the richest of the rich just up and decide they want to GIVE their wealth to people? What do you mean by voluntary currency??",,Anonymous,,,,,1513116179 153040913,153053274,2017-12-12 22:03:32,">>153052308 Companies would have to abide by the morals of the people they're trying to sell to, if they do dirty stuff in secret - ancap doesn't claim to magically solve all problems every society has, it's not as if governments are incapable of doing dirty things when they think one can see. In fact governments are better able to be corrupt, as they have the ability and even right to 'silence' those who would air their dirty laundry and can bully their citizens through force.",,Anonymous,ami.jpg,4FPlJuMLViI7vhN7SqWkzQ==,,,1513116212 153040913,153053296,2017-12-12 22:03:41,">>153052289 < >>153052308 There'd be more than I want to unpack right now if I addressed all the things you simultaneously raised in that post. The best way to talk about what you're hinting at in general is to ask how state agents - who are human - are solely capable of doing things you want done. Humans can do those things, so why is it *UNIQUELY* humans who call themselves state agents who can do any of those things?",,Praceteom,questionmark girl4.jpg,JQtp4QjD+hNx7sT2jUlumg==,,,1513116221 153040913,153053548,2017-12-12 22:04:51,">>153052611 The state doesn't exist as a separate entity, and what you've described applies to all collections of human persons. Society and cooperation comes about without the state. Im not sure that what you said means anything anyway, other than sounding pretty.",,Anonymous,looktowardthefuture.png,RIc/rMRUk4CH4O8GRYLEYg==,,,1513116291 153040913,153053585,2017-12-12 22:05:03,">>153052362 >means that they're the ones who actually owned it That's ridiculous and makes your notion of property rights completely and utterly transient. You'd have to - by that logic - maintain that if Tyrone beat you up and stole your T.V. that he was the one who actually owned it in the first place, when that's obviously not the case.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513116303 153040913,153054160,2017-12-12 22:07:47,">>153050877 > words have no meaning without the government Slaves talk like that. > Oh I don't want people to take MY shit, may as well band together with other people to protect each others shit through collective defensive force > Some cunt took my shit! Oooooooh!",,Anonymous,,,,,1513116467 153040913,153054172,2017-12-12 22:07:50,">>153053585 >to uphold some social norm Ok, since you're just going to ignore what I say, I won't bother replying further.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513116470 153040913,153054371,2017-12-12 22:08:51,">>153053296 >>153053548 But who is there to instill moral principles like when someone commits wrong upon themselves or others? There has to be rules and regulations in society and someone to enforce those rules and regulations if normal citizens are given the responsibility it would be catastrophic unless, like Plato said, everyone was some type of selfless philosopher.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513116531 153040913,153054991,2017-12-12 22:11:48,">>153054172 >>153052362 >I didn't say it was ""because"" of that >>153052362 >>153054172 >to uphold some social norm Jesus fuck you're a dipshit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513116708 153040913,153055178,2017-12-12 22:12:45,">>153052078 I'm not a stirnerite. But that is just a fact. Property only exists by the ability to defend it. As the largest protection force, the state lays claim to all property within the borders. Secondary property rights are granted to individuals or groups by the state. But as the true owner, the state can always repossess the property. This is a blunt fact of reality, not a moralistic argument. This is simply how property works, presented in a realist and amoral manner.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513116765 153040913,153055353,2017-12-12 22:13:40,">>153054371 >But who is there to instill moral principles like when someone commits wrong upon themselves or others People tend to do those things, right? Or are tax-subsidized police able to do things no other people can?",,Praceteom,,,,,1513116820 153040913,153056516,2017-12-12 22:18:28,">>153054991 No, but it seems like you have some trouble with reading comprehension. Or, more likely, you're just some autist. First you start talking about the excuse the mob uses to lynch him, for no reason. Then you try to say a nigger assaulting you and stealing your TV is the same as a lynch mob enforcing preexisting social norms Are you just here for (you)'s?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513117108 153040913,153056608,2017-12-12 22:18:50,">>153055353 I don't understand what you're trying to imply. Police officers are still held accountable if they do wrong, or in any case, they should still be held accountable if they do wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513117130 153040913,153057043,2017-12-12 22:20:45,">>153040913 Libertarians are faggots who claim to be conservative when around conservatives and liberal when around liberals. You don't choose sides, which makes you worse than a communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513117245 153040913,153057175,2017-12-12 22:21:26,">>153056516 >for no reason >>153050684 >Then it was those people who really owned his property and you're admitting you don't believe in absolute private property rights Generally people JUSTIFY CLAIMS about PROPERTY with REASONS. You are saying those people in such a case would ACTUALLY BE the ones to own the property, and I STATED THAT THEIR REASONS FOR DOING THINGS IN REGARD TO THE PROPERTY OWNER DO NOT SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIM. KILL YOURSELF AUTIST",,Praceteom,,,,,1513117286 153040913,153057428,2017-12-12 22:22:41,>>153040913,,Anonymous,1509745633208.jpg,wT/Tj9Y0g6GCwUHlIscGsw==,US,,1513117361 153040913,153057545,2017-12-12 22:23:17,">>153056608 Okay. I'll try harder here. Police use violence to do what they do right? Are other people not capable of the same violence, or are they? So what's being questioned is why the people violently enforcing this or that - which you seem to want - have to be tax subsidized police and can't be some other people who aren't subsidized by taxes.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513117397 153040913,153057711,2017-12-12 22:24:03,">>153057043 You do realize this is the libertarian RIGHT general, yeah? We're mostly anarcho capitalists, minarchists at worst. Both of these are fundamentally right winged.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513117443 153040913,153057815,2017-12-12 22:24:30,">>153057043 > choose sides in a collectivist us vs them conflict that lives to divide society > choose sides when we represent an individualist ideology that seeks to unite society under universal human rights We are neither left nor right, we are the eagle soaring above the two wings of the same collectivist statist bird.",,Anonymous,1512940486146.png,j0dt6tpPFIDAsxaarGjQ8w==,,,1513117470 153040913,153057998,2017-12-12 22:25:15,">>153053153 >But anon, what if people don't want to share? What if they don't want to make donations? They are required to by contract. Prior to entering the covenant, they agree to be expelled from the covenant if they violate certain terms (this is one example of a contractual scenario, there are an infinite amount of other possibilities). >How are the other millions of people off if they fit into a criteria of poverty? Do the richest of the rich just up and decide they want to GIVE their wealth to people? We relegate that responsibility to the institutions that we have always used. The family and the Church. Or if people choose, social programs can be established via the contract. >What do you mean by voluntary currency?? What do you mean? Currency has always been voluntary. Most things have been.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513117515 153040913,153058176,2017-12-12 22:26:00,">>153057545 You mean like a private voluntary force that keeps order or something like a militia? Maybe a little bit of both? Okay that's good and well, but who pays them?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513117560 153040913,153058677,2017-12-12 22:28:09,,,Anonymous,67b98b83-817f-4c78-be36-d24dfb39e2ec.jpg,RTaMnX9EiegivbdpQWOkNA==,US,,1513117689 153040913,153058727,2017-12-12 22:28:25,">>153054371 If someone is an immoral person, they will be ostracized from any moral community. Moral communities *will* form if there is freedom of association, as moral people exists and will desire to live among other moral people. If someone infringes upon another's property, . that will be dealt with legally.",,Anonymous,ancappango1.png,9AGc4J1FR9ttu1cBwYk68w==,,,1513117705 153040913,153058850,2017-12-12 22:28:59,">>153053296 >so why is it *UNIQUELY* humans who call themselves state agents who can do any of those things Because they hold power (ultimately through the ability to control others through force). My point was just that a state is not something you can decide to exist or not. It's just a natural consequence of humans existing together, since there will always be ways for some humans to control others. Except maybe if some sort of sci-fi technology that would eliminate this possibility is created at some point in the future. I think it is more realistic to assume the existence of the state, rather than starting with the question of whether it ought to exist or not. The goal then should be to make sure that desirable people are on top of the hierarchy. I don't believe that capitalism does this properly because it only selects for the ability to make money, regardless of any other virtues. If you believe that ability to make money is a good selection criterion, then that is fine, but I personally do not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513117739 153040913,153059028,2017-12-12 22:29:42,">>153058176 Anyone who wants to engage in those services, yes. They can be a volunteer force - in which case nobody would have to pay them - or they could sell their services to people who value them. Those services would tend to be more valuable and concentrated in worse areas, and less valuable and less concentrated in nicer places. It doesn't cost very much per-person to fund protection services, even if only 1/10 people paid for such services.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513117782 153040913,153059252,2017-12-12 22:30:41,">>153041019 >>153041075 Here are the three images in one image",,Anonymous,Freedom to do right.png,tDlWenhjIKGW7AFzxy194g==,US,,1513117841 153040913,153059265,2017-12-12 22:30:45,">>153058850 >Because they hold power They just have guns and other tools. Literally anyone with a gun can do what police do.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513117845 153040913,153059314,2017-12-12 22:30:53,">>153057175 Yep, you're confirmed autistic. The reason for them doing it is to uphold a social contract that the property owner is being subjected to involuntarily. This fact is what means they are the ones who actually own the property. And what's hilarious here is that not only have you abandoned the concept of absolute private property rights, you're actually arguing in defense of the exact same structure the state uses to exert its control. /lrg/ is such a fucking joke these days..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513117853 153040913,153059455,2017-12-12 22:31:29,Heil Pinochet,,Pinochet,aADX3Yo_700b.jpg,t5VIARL5epqoPKqnIM8/7A==,,,1513117889 153040913,153059468,2017-12-12 22:31:33,">>153045761 >Doesn't know what natural law is. Why are you even in this thread?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513117893 153040913,153059635,2017-12-12 22:32:11,">>153057998 Yeah but who does the expelling? Who makes the rules and who enforces the responsibilities on institutions? Who pays those people money to enforce the responsibilities and regulations? Currency is supposed to be a tool that is regulated and financed to people in the form of loans, that's where people get their money to start businesses and spark industry so that other people can be hired and that those people can pay for things that they need and so that loans can be paid off to the government, right? How in the hell is that going to work if a private institution is creating the currency without a formal government to distribute and regulate the money in the form of loans. If the industry attempts to do it, what's stopping them from simply producing a shit ton money for themselves?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513117931 153040913,153059660,2017-12-12 22:32:20,">>153045943 You don't? Cool, just going to walk right into your room and eat out of your fridge.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513117940 153040913,153059876,2017-12-12 22:33:20,">>153041532 Lol wtf how is that a contradiction you absolute brainlet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513118000 153040913,153060232,2017-12-12 22:34:59,">>153041554 wrong again nigger",,Anonymous,1509673468169.png,6EjPcmOBpqKCNCRlcKaPKA==,US,,1513118099 153040913,153060327,2017-12-12 22:35:31,">>153059314 >it is to uphold a social contract You're asserting the objective of the mob. So was I, but my assertion is far more common to actual people, while ""WE MUST UPHOLD THE TACIT SOCIAL CONTRACT THAT THIS PERSON HAS TACITLY AGREED TO WITHOUT ACTUALLY AGREEING TO ABIDE BY"" is not what anyone thinks ever, though it might occur to them as a post-facto rationale. >abandoned the concept of absolute private property rights I'm not doing shit. I'm not endorsing the mob, I'm telling you that murdering a person for walking across your driveway is LOONY and UTTERLY unreasonable. That you do something LOONY and UNREASONABLE doesn't mean you don't own your fucking property.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513118131 153040913,153060405,2017-12-12 22:35:52,">>153054160 See: >>153055178 The concept of ""theft"" is necessarily contingent upon the concept of ""property."" So you need a proper definition of property first before you can have an understanding of theft. Property comes into existence through ability to defend it from challengers. This ability defines sovereignty and the extent of sovereignty defines dominion. Property under this sovereign dominion is in reality a secondary form of property, granted to subordinate actors by the sovereign.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513118152 153040913,153061000,2017-12-12 22:38:53,">>153059028 Tried doing that in ancient both Rome and China, Mongols were hired as mercenaries for the Ottomans. >""Hey Tzunsolunkira, what's with those strange white and red banners?"" >""I don't know Linicfirotso-san, but it looks to be like there's THOUSANDS of them!!"" >""Holy crap you're right, look they feathers on their backs! They must have seven hundred horses."" >""You know what screw these sandniggers we already got paid let's go back East."" >""Agreed."" >""DURKA DURKA! WHERE ARE YOU GOING?? I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO HELP ME FIGHT THE KAFFIR!! STOP! I PAID YOU HANDSOMELY!!!""",,Anonymous,,,,,1513118333 153040913,153061255,2017-12-12 22:40:06,>>153047012,,Anonymous,morans.jpg,Trn83ch4k8+r6pAVuNyckg==,US,,1513118406 153040913,153061440,2017-12-12 22:41:03,">>153060327 >is not what anything thinks ever, though it might occur to them as a post-facto rationale What do you think this is? Good god. >I'm not endorsing the mob The person I was actually replying to in the first place was presenting it as a solution to the property owner's unreasonable actions. >That you do something LOONY and UNREASONABLE doesn't mean you don't own your fucking property. Correct, that's not what means it. I've already stated what does.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513118463 153040913,153061794,2017-12-12 22:42:40,">>153061000 >Tried doing that in ancient both Rome and China You know it's been the case that communities have enforced themselves for millennia and that modern policing didn't become commonplace until around until the late 19th century right? I find it really odd that we'd want a group that's not price-sensitive or that has any incentive to better their services rather than people who care enough to either do the work for free (volunteers) or else who compete to make their services better on a market.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513118560 153040913,153062309,2017-12-12 22:45:10,">>153061440 >What do you think this is? A post-facto rationale is different from pre-facto and in-the-moment reasoning. People come up with excuses afterwards, but those excuses had no motivating power since they weren't ever part of the reasons behind their decisions. >The person I was actually replying to in the first place was presenting it as a solution to the property owner's unreasonable actions I'm not and never did.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513118710 153040913,153062531,2017-12-12 22:46:17,">>153061255 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,1405406909956.png,Vt9TyT8zIXo8ZoDlfeiZTA==,US,,1513118777 153040913,153062809,2017-12-12 22:47:36,">>153047541 Have you actually read Hoppe? He's not a proponent of monarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513118856 153040913,153062892,2017-12-12 22:48:01,">>153061794 I'm not saying that individual communities enforcing rules with force is unethical, I'm saying that it's a lot more reasonable to have people who's soul job it is to safeguard the public and enforce rules from the expenses of tax payer currency as opposed to turning the law enforcement into some sort of strange private mercenary group.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513118881 153040913,153063085,2017-12-12 22:48:53,">>153059635 >Yeah but who does the expelling? Who makes the rules and who enforces the responsibilities on institutions? Who pays those people money to enforce the responsibilities and regulations? The owners of the covenant. That could be the monarch, the fuhrer, the aristocrats or the Church. >How in the hell is that going to work if a private institution is creating the currency without a formal government to distribute and regulate the money in the form of loans. If the industry attempts to do it, what's stopping them from simply producing a shit ton money for themselves? I hate to say it but your worldview is clouded by modern democracy. We never needed government to create and regulate money. We used gold. Because gold is a scarce resource. If a private currency is overproduce, unregulated or inefficient, then people won't use it. It will lose it's value because nobody wants to buy it. This is all very simple.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513118933 153040913,153063147,2017-12-12 22:49:12,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvPR08hx4SA,,Anonymous,,,US,,1513118952 153040913,153063223,2017-12-12 22:49:34,">>153062809 He is a proponent of voluntary governance so yes he is a proponent of voluntary monarchy.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513118974 153040913,153063276,2017-12-12 22:49:50,">>153049294 Just finished it today, bretty good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513118990 153040913,153063489,2017-12-12 22:50:59,">>153062309 >talking about excuses again for literally no reason Ho lee mo lee I've never encountered someone with this much autism. >I'm not and never did. Then stop replying to me, because that's what my post was in response to",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513119059 153040913,153063655,2017-12-12 22:51:45,">>153051031 The IRS is not private. You are confusing it with the Fed. But that is only sort of private. Our government appoints the people who run it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513119105 153040913,153063665,2017-12-12 22:51:48,">>153062809 more of a proponent of monarchy than democracy, let the kids have their memes >its all the aussies have, they have the highest suicide rates in the western world, just smile and play along",,TPM,,,,,1513119108 153040913,153063679,2017-12-12 22:51:55,">>153062892 >I'm not saying that individual communities enforcing rules with force is unethical I'm not suggesting you are >I'm saying that it's a lot more reasonable to have people who's soul job it is to safeguard the public and enforce rules Alright, but tax funding has some bad incentive qualities, doesn't it? If people are taxed for someone else's income, those people's income is guaranteed insofar as they collect taxes. And when people's incomes are guaranteed, they don't have incentives to improve their services. It's the same with police, the DMV, public schooling and any other tax-funded service that we recognize that they're generally pretty bad at what they do, and complain about it, but they really have no incentives to improve since they get paid either way. Isn't a competitive market for services just better for getting more quality and lower prices?",,Praceteom,,,,,1513119115 153040913,153063965,2017-12-12 22:53:17,">>153063489 You literally asked me a question. >What do you think this is? Your failure to even follow a conversation is just absolutely stunning. Please kill yourself.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513119197 153040913,153064147,2017-12-12 22:54:19,">>153063085 No. I'd say my conclusion is that leaving regulations, finances, law enforcement, and infrastructure handling in the hands of private institutions alone is both a self destructive and reckless idea. Private industry is a great tool to instill jobs and provide a nation with plentiful resources. Leaving every aspect of society in the hands of such a foundation would be catastrophic to say the least.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513119259 153040913,153064651,2017-12-12 22:56:49,">>153063965 >You literally asked me a question. A rhetorical question, you trainwreck of an autismo. >>153049520 >>153049520 >>153049520 Why do tripfags sabotage every general on this goddamn board?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513119409 153040913,153064671,2017-12-12 22:56:55,">>153063223 No he's not. Just because he is a proponent of private governance, does not mean that he is a proponent of that form of private governance. Read more Hoppe. He actually goes on in another essay to argue how Aristocracy is an improvement upon Monarchy, just like he argues Monarchy is an improvement on Democracy. Yet, he does not advocate Aristocracy either. He has specifically stated several times in his works that he does not advocate for monarchy and is against it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513119415 153040913,153064861,2017-12-12 22:57:53,">>153063665 No, he's not a proponent of Monarchy. He thinks Monarchy is bad. It is just less bad than democracy. That's the exact way he describes it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513119473 153040913,153064966,2017-12-12 22:58:26,>>153064651,,Praceteom,faggot.gif,hiQrtGzANKLVcpFHYOUZ8g==,,,1513119506 153040913,153065009,2017-12-12 22:58:40,">>153063679 >Isn't a competitive market for services just better for getting more quality and lower prices? Absolutely, it most absolutely is. That's the beautiful thing about free market economics, it encourages self betterment and productivity in order to provide server to people and make money. But I think it should stay in its place in economics alone, I don't think it's moral or ethical to entrust things like law enforcement in the hands of private institutions because there would be no one to regulate what they could and could not do in terms of what they enforce.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513119520 153040913,153065075,2017-12-12 22:58:58,">>153058727 >Moral communities *will* form And then they will be subjugated by amoral communities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513119538 153040913,153065413,2017-12-12 23:00:52,">>153064966 https://www.autismspeaks.org/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513119652 153040913,153065521,2017-12-12 23:01:21,">>153064861 in one of his videos, he said that if he could chose he would live under a monarchy rather than a democracy. you are right too tho",,TPM,5stagesblack.png,GWMVzgaV1vE2T5rjSPReug==,,,1513119681 153040913,153065830,2017-12-12 23:02:52,">>153065009 >But I think it should stay in its place in economics alone Is there something unique about protection services? In terms of regulation, it seems like we have far less impact on what police do right now than if they were to actually depend on us paying for their services to operate. Both the courts and the police have very intertwined interests beyond the fact that they're both paid for via taxation. Courts reel in money by police citations, and prosecute and punish people by reliance on police following through with their orders. You see this in police misconduct cases constantly - that they get away with things no regular person would ever get away with - and it's because they're looking after their own. I think that's a bad situation fundamentally.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513119772 153040913,153066115,2017-12-12 23:04:10,">>153059265 >They just have guns and other tools. Yes. >Literally anyone with a gun can do what police do Not if they cannot command loyalty of large amounts of other people. And once you have a loyal organized force of violence like that, you have a nascent or de facto state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513119850 153040913,153066437,2017-12-12 23:05:38,">>153059468 The only real natural law is the law of cause and effect. Christfag and lolbertarian ""natural law"" is just arbitrary moralistic bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513119938 153040913,153066903,2017-12-12 23:08:03,">>153066115 You don't really need anyone's loyalty to point a gun at someone - say someone you witnessed shoot another guy in the head and was shooting at other people - and pull the trigger. Anyone can respond to calls to - you can put your number on a billboard for people to call in case of emergency and then act as a responder.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513120083 153040913,153067403,2017-12-12 23:10:32,">>153060405 > Property comes into existence through ability to defend it from challengers. Not necessarily. You're just isolating one part of a broader issue. Ownership claims are exactly that, they are normative claims that are argued during disagreement, they are opinion. When no one disagrees with your opinion of what you own then you still have property, even if no one tries to take it. If they try to take it then yes you need to defend it, that doesn't mean the method you use to defend your claim is necessarily a state, the state has very specific characteristics which we are opposed to and seek alternatives for....and then you have disagreement through argumentation. At the end of the day property claims are normative, theft and property is something you either argue, or act on, or argue then act on etc. My first point though is that it's not exclusively a legal term, it's merely a term of opinion, currently used in the legal realm but also used outside of it to some degree.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513120232 153040913,153067850,2017-12-12 23:12:49,">>153066903 But a loyal and organized force will beat individuals. That was my entire point. The larger force would have the ability to exclude the individuals from acting as vigilantes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513120369 153040913,153068872,2017-12-12 23:18:33,">>153067850 >But a loyal and organized force will beat individuals Maybe. But so? That's like saying a rock with x mass falls from y distance has less force behind it than a rock with x+[z] mass falling from y distance. That's the case always - it's not different now than in any other situation. Is your point that you think x libertarian group necessarily has to be smaller than y non-libertarian group...?",,Praceteom,,,,,1513120713 153040913,153069143,2017-12-12 23:20:05,,,Anonymous,ef0.jpg,wAo0hEp9XrngSSGJIC/hww==,FI,,1513120805 153040913,153069609,2017-12-12 23:22:38,">>153067403 >Ownership claims are exactly that, they are normative claims that are argued during disagreement, they are opinion Wrong. They are fact. The real definition of property requires the ability to exclude others from use. That ability is not an opinion. It is a fact based on raw force. Your understanding of property is poor. >My first point though is that it's not exclusively a legal term False. It is a legal term and only has meaning within the context of a legal framework. Absent a state of law, taking an object from another person is not ""theft,"" it is merely acquisition. Because the definition of property necessarily includes the ability to exclude others from use, inability to do so means that it is not property. That is why no ancient people would ever consider taking objects from barbarians or outsiders to be theft, since they are not subject to the state's laws.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513120958 153040913,153069965,2017-12-12 23:24:34,">>153068872 My point was that a state forms naturally as a result of human interaction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513121074 153040913,153070101,2017-12-12 23:25:20,">>153069609 >Wrong. They are fact ? So I clam I own the sun. I have so far been incredibly successful as far as having excluded people from interfering with my rightfully owned giant ball of mostly hydrogen and helium. So I... own the sun?",,Praceteom,,,,,1513121120 153040913,153070368,2017-12-12 23:26:56,">>153069965 The state does some very specific things that are very unnatural though, and what it uniquely does is exactly those unnatural things. We don't in our daily lives hold it's reasonable or legitimate to steal from people or threaten them with violence for not obeying us, but those are things the state does.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513121216 153040913,153071815,2017-12-12 23:36:02,">>153070101 >I have so far been incredibly successful as far as having excluded people from interfering with my rightfully owned giant ball of mostly hydrogen and helium. No you haven't. Everyone uses the sun.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513121762 153040913,153072109,2017-12-12 23:37:50,">>153071815 >Everyone uses the sun No, that's just a positive externality. That's like saying someone doesn't own their flower garden because other people can see it for their viewing pleasure. The sun itself is mine... or it isn't, why?",,Praceteom,,,,,1513121870 153040913,153072230,2017-12-12 23:38:30,">>153069609 > Wrong. They are fact. No no no, a claim is by definition an opinion, however we use objective links to what is being claimed as evidence to prove and validate ownership claims. Ie. If I say I own something, that is an opinion, it is not force, it is not a fact, however the receipt of purchase that I have or the video of me carving a chair or whatever is objective, it is my objective link to what is being claimed. Do you see where you went wrong now? > False. It is a legal term and only has meaning within the context of a legal framework. That makes no sense, the moment someone uses it in conversation and resolves a dispute or even in the absence of dispute outside of the legal system then that term is no long exclusively in the domain of the legal system. > Because the definition of property necessarily includes the ability to exclude others from use Yes exactly, but as I said you have have property claims that are not disagreed with, agreed with, disagreed with through argumentation and disagreed with through force. The right to exclude does not = state, the right to exclude does not = always having to forcibly exlude.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513121910 153040913,153072334,2017-12-12 23:39:15,">>153065075 How? Attackers are shot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513121955 153040913,153072391,2017-12-12 23:39:37,">>153040913 So theoretically, how would a hyper individualistic society deal with things like the opium crisis?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513121977 153040913,153072671,2017-12-12 23:41:18,">>153070368 Maybe you should read some history. Killing people and taking their stuff is one of the most natural things in the world. >We don't in our daily lives hold it's reasonable or legitimate to steal from people or threaten them with violence for not obeying us Because you live under law, enforced by the state, do you have no need. You can't just take the existing state of law and pretend that is an irrelevance to how you must live your life. Imagine you lived in the Congo or some place with a weaker execution of law, with various warlords and so on. What you would consider ""reasonable"" would need to be completely different.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513122078 153040913,153073528,2017-12-12 23:46:43,">>153072671 Lots of people kill others and take their stuff. But those people are - and have historically been - a very small minority of people. If they weren't, humanity would have wiped itself out. >Because you live under law, enforced by the state No, because it's clear those things are wrong. I wouldn't want them inflicted on me, and it's dangerous and totally unnecessary for myself or anyone else to inflict them on others. You've stated you don't believe in morality, but you don't need to ascribe to one to see the cost-benefit analysis of engaging in outward violence against people tends to be very costly and not very beneficial for most people in most circumstances.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513122403 153040913,153074213,2017-12-12 23:50:36,">>153045471 Do you have the pic where the flag is the background and the girl is holding a laser gun or drill?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513122636 153040913,153074297,2017-12-12 23:51:06,">>153072230 >No no no, a claim is by definition an opinion, Property is not defined by claims, so your entire point is irrelevant. Your understanding of property is faulty. >Ie. If I say I own something, that is an opinion, it is not force, Property has nothing to do with claims, so again this is irrelevant. ""Claim of property"" presupposes ""property"" so your understanding is circular. >That makes no sense, the moment someone uses it in conversation and resolves a dispute or even in the absence of dispute outside of the legal system then that term is no long exclusively in the domain of the legal system. Wrong. If it is to have any meaning at all, then the term only applies under a state of law. >The right to exclude does not = state, the right to exclude does not = always having to forcibly exlude. Rights are not real. You only either have the ability to exclude or you don't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513122666 153040913,153074418,2017-12-12 23:52:05,">>153072391 The opium crisis wouldn't happen in the first place because people would be accustomed to the idea that they had to look out for themselves instead of trusting their great overlords in the US Federal Government to be watching out for them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513122725 153040913,153074697,2017-12-12 23:53:57,">>153041679 We're remarkably kike free",,Anonymous,Jewish Influence.png,al+7MIsDMwLL/s3dnc9UYQ==,US,,1513122837 153040913,153074907,2017-12-12 23:55:37,">>153074418 It's better to grant the situation and argue it from there than to just deny the situation generally. It's conceivable you have a bunch of druggies without the state. He's asking how that is or isn't dealt with.",,Praceteom,,,,,1513122937 153040913,153076116,2017-12-13 00:03:59,">>153074297 > Property is not defined by claims Holy shit what are you on about son. Property is something that is claimed > I own that > Don't touch that, it's mine Property is something that is argued and claimed, it is a normative proposition, why are you literally denying reality, the english language and observable history? Why do you idiots when backed into a corner just try to fucking redifine words and concepts that people have understand for hundreds of years if not thousands. > Claim: > Verb - state or assert that something is the case > Noun - an assertion that something is true > This is mine (Claim) > Here is my receipt (objective evidence) > your understanding is circular. Yes sound logic is consistent the whole way around thats how we know its correct because its sound, can be deconstructed and reconstructed and is consistent. You even mentioned yourself earlier that you have the right to exclude people, that is a claim, you claim the right to something, that is why language exists so we can express opinions and that why we use use our sensory reality to validate what people say to find out the truth. > Wrong. If it is to have any meaning at all, No it doesn't you can't argue that. The moment someone uses the word ""theft"" outside of the legal system and it leads to an outcome, then it has meaning and is no longer exclusively in the domain of the legal system. 1 + 1 =/= Windows mate, 1 + 1 = 2. Not being inside something =/= being inside something, getting a result out of something =/= meaningless. > Rights are not real. Neither is mathematics, or language yet when we apply it to the real world we can assert things and use it. Rights are also something that is claimed, just like property. Fuck just give up already, you're trying to argue the sky isn't blue because space is black it's getting annoying and you should have given up ages ago before you dug that illogical hole.",,Anonymous,quote-forgotten-were-the-elementary-rules-of-logic-that-extraordinary-claims-require-extraordinary-christopher-hitchens-237619.jpg,jVuaPGxuN6hH9cZVN0VNXQ==,,,1513123439 153040913,153076141,2017-12-13 00:04:08,">>153073528 >But those people are - and have historically been - a very small minority of people False. >it's clear those things are wrong How is that clear? >>153073528 >I wouldn't want them inflicted on me, and it's dangerous and totally unnecessary for myself or anyone else to inflict them on others. You presuppose an egalitarian deontological ethic, that a moral rule must be able to apply equally to everyone. I don't agree with this. If I subscribe to any ethic, it is role ethics and law of cause and effect. What is ""good"" or ""bad"" only makes sense in the context of a goal. If your goal is to drive a nail, then it is good to drive it with a hammer and bad to drive it with a sponge. Goals themselves are not good or bad. >but you don't need to ascribe to one to see the cost-benefit analysis of engaging in outward violence against people tends to be very costly and not very beneficial for most people in most circumstances This is completely false. It has historically been very successful. Killing people and taking stuff is how all of civilization was formed. Today it is how you are able to live a comfortable life under the delusion that violence is unnecessary. You're just a coward who will not commit violence himself yet relies on the violence of others.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513123448 153040913,153076286,2017-12-13 00:05:14,The autism ITT is killing me.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1513123514 153040913,153076583,2017-12-13 00:07:34,">>153076141 >False ??? It's true. Most people in the past have not been raiders or otherwise agents of violence/war. That's a brute fact. Jesus Christ do you really believe the opposite??? >It has historically been very successful No, it's been circumstantially beneficial for warlords and INCREDIBLY unsuccessful for the people who actually commit to the violence, since most of them are seriously injured or die and haven't got much out of it, because in the past people didn't have much to take in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513123654 153040913,153076716,2017-12-13 00:08:35,">>153076286 Every /lrg/ spastics come floating around trying to argue the most meaningless irrational bullshit imaginable. I miss the minarchist/anarchist debates, you should've posted instead of lurked so we had more people to reply to besides >>153076141 redefines all of reality burger.",,Anonymous,1507768035314.gif,jW/ipacIcHaIODMtoVc9zg==,,,1513123715 153040913,153076999,2017-12-13 00:10:48,">>153076716 Haha, you should have seen them yesterday. They argued over semantics for not 1, not 2, but 7 1/2 hrs. These people will kill themselves Heavens Gate style if they ever got a commune",,Anonymous,,,,,1513123848 153040913,153077091,2017-12-13 00:11:27,">>153076116 >Property is something that is claimed No, it is something that is possessed. >You even mentioned yourself earlier that you have the right to exclude people, I never mentioned rights because they are fictional. >The moment someone uses the word ""theft"" outside of the legal system and it leads to an outcome, then it has meaning and is no longer exclusively in the domain of the legal system. No, this is false. Theft presupposes property, which presupposes ability to exclude. Ability to exclude is itself a form of sovereignty and law (law being a set of threats of violence). I suggest you familiarize yourself with these classical conception of property and law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513123887 153040913,153077195,2017-12-13 00:12:20,">>153076116 >Property is something that is argued and claimed And this presupposes existence of the property. Again, it is circular and begging the question.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513123940 153040913,153077219,2017-12-13 00:12:30,"If you don't own at least 21 Bitcoin, kindly kill yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513123950 153040913,153077665,2017-12-13 00:16:10,">>153076716 I did not redefine anything. I am using classical concepts. You are using loaded modern libertarian definitions that presume your worldview. That is why you must resort to language of ""rights"" and ""claims.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513124170 153040913,153078267,2017-12-13 00:21:03,">>153076583 >It's true. Most people in the past have not been raiders or otherwise agents of violence/war. They have benefitted from it, which is what I meant. Sorry, I did not convey that correctly in my post. >INCREDIBLY unsuccessful for the people who actually commit to the violence This is false. For example, the average Spanish conquistadors benefitted, and so did their countrymen who did not engage in violence. It was of benefit to Spaniards overall. Average British citizens benefitted greatly from their empire looting various places. Killing people and taking their stuff has historically been profitable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513124463 153040913,153078294,2017-12-13 00:21:14,">>153077091 > No, it is something that is possessed. ...and when someone says ""I own this"" or ""give that back its mine"" or ""he took my X, get it back for me"" or ""this is my Y"", that is a claim. You're literally saying if someone steals my shit it's not mine because I no longer possess it, even though I claim to own it and would like it given back or taken back. The claim is central, that is why human language exists. > No, this is false. How is it false, that if someone uses a term outside of the legal system and gets a result from it then it can no longer be considered in the sole domain of the legal system? You can't get around this logic, stop trying. > Theft presupposes property Theft is a claim, property ownership is a claim. Having property means the right to exclude yes, the right to do something is yet another claim. You're trying to ignore and skip human language in social interactions. Words and actions can go together. I suggest you go back to school and learn some of the english language and stop trying to argue against concepts that have stood since before you were born in a way that no one would agree with you and you can't logically prove. >>153077195 > begging the question Begging what question mate? >>153076999 The facist threads have been much better because the moment people post books everyone starts talking about them instead of.... 7 1/2 hours of semantics. I guess that's why fuck all commies are around these days, after a few hundred ""Socialism is the worker ownership of the means of production"" threads they probably gave up. I feel like an idiot for taking the bait but I'm so bored and have time to kill.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513124474 153040913,153078457,2017-12-13 00:22:40,">>153041341 Not necessarily a libertarian but I use this",,Anonymous,c0e.jpg,SG/jLfOJfeEVlsHLgWMosQ==,US,,1513124560 153040913,153079542,2017-12-13 00:31:56,"Are neoreactionaries /lrg/ approved? The idea of privately run monarchies sounds a lot like what hoppe proposes.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1513125116 153040913,153079672,2017-12-13 00:33:04,">>153078294 >You're literally saying if someone steals my shit it's not mine because I no longer possess it, Correct. If they can take it and you can't do anything about it, then it was not your property to begin with. By the ""exclusion"" definition we both agreed upon. But in this case it would not be stealing, it would merely be acquisition. >The claim is central No, the possession is central. >How is it false It's false because you don't understand what a law or a legal system are. >property ownership is a claim. Wrong. Again, property is not a claim. Property is a possession. This is not hard to understand. >trying to argue against concepts that have stood since before you were born All the definitions you are using are modern, derived mostly from retard Locke. You are the one using redefined terms. I am using them as they have been understood throughout most of history. >Begging what question mate? It's a fallacy, meaning you are assuming what you are attempting to prove.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513125184 153040913,153079794,2017-12-13 00:34:09,"why are libertarians so nonviolent? Violence is great, don't you have honor?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513125249 153040913,153080287,2017-12-13 00:38:24,"These threads serve nothing. What is needed is carnage. Charlie-Hebdo google, facebook, twitter and shareblue offices. Hit their families. Put it all on HD video, torture and mutilation included. Make it scary to work for those entities. When this happens, things will change.",,Anonymous,,,TH,,1513125504 153040913,153080797,2017-12-13 00:42:48,">>153079672 > No, the possession is central. The whole point of property is to differentiate who gets exclusive use and control over what thing they claim the right of exclusive use and control over. Possession is one thing that you want by having property, to possess what you claim, to use what you claim and control who gets to use what you claim. The point of this differentiating is because its necessary to possess and use resources, disagreements prevent us from having a society, interacting with others, going about our business and ultimately they effect our use of resources. So we claim things and then we can either not do nothing, or disagree or agree with words or disagree/agree with force in regards to peoples claims or possessions. In conclusion, you want to possess or use or control property, and property is something that we claim to own and have the right to possess, use or control. Property is a concept, a word and we use words to communicate, property is a word we use to communicate about the division of who ought to use, control or possess something that they claim to have the right to use, control or possess at the exclusion of others. Push aside your ""rights don't exist"" meme for second because the word right, is used in a variety of wars, the right to something is merely once again a normative claim, normative being opinion/subjective. Circiling back for a moment, property is claimed, claims are normative, normative is subjective, subjective is opinion, we use facts to back up opinions. Where's the error in that chain of logic?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513125768 153040913,153082453,2017-12-13 00:58:05,">>153040913 why no communists for capitalism? ie. net neutrality.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513126685 153040913,153082543,2017-12-13 00:59:03,">>153080287 go to bed, FBI",,Anonymous,,,,,1513126743 153040913,153082907,2017-12-13 01:02:40,,,Anonymous,f725ec33b997f76e8e1147ae5729df072697b272c2a15b0fbe194a18210991e2.jpg,hNf2xNwXZ9bjnGWUhAxmow==,,,1513126960 153040913,153084759,2017-12-13 01:20:39,">>153082907 uh oh",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1513128039 153040913,153085492,2017-12-13 01:29:14,">>153074907 Since you are more willing to address it, how would stuff like that be dealt with, if at all?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513128554 153040913,153085658,2017-12-13 01:31:00,You aren't anarchists and your philosphers are fucking trash lmao,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1511630188900.jpg,CAqcx9Mjk6+K1FTY7HBeuQ==,US,,1513128660 153040913,153086646,2017-12-13 01:42:51,">>153085658 Name a cooler group of philosophers that any ideaology has over the liberty movement. Adam Smith, Bastiat, Mises, Hayek, Friedman, Rothbard, Ayn, Ron Paul, all pretty cool people, very well mannered, smart, not very cooky even though they hold extreme positive views for the world. Contrast that with the eugenic, degenerate, violent riddled group sisterhood of Marxist and Facist intellectuals, the salty, the angry, the beta, the jobless, unsuccessful, the autistic, the cynical, the nihilistic, they're pretty disgusting people in general with shit ideas. They can't hold a candle to our lads and ladettes, people worth listening to.",,Anonymous,lrg.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1513129371 153040913,153087561,2017-12-13 01:54:39,">>153086646 Lol fucking Nietzsche shits on all those people.",,Anonymous,FDEF7E04-7605-4432-922C-7C6015D6FC00.jpg,YCxWatmOrX5C0Lrthz29IQ==,,,1513130079 153040913,153087671,2017-12-13 01:56:22,">>153082907 One of my neighbor's kids looks just like that; dead ringer. He's a good kid. >>153076286 An-caps and libertarians are autistic. Leftist are schizophrenic and retarded. Fascist are narcissists.",,Anonymous,article-0-0047C492000004B0-476_233x423.jpg,l7QTV2fSOUp2d4PG+4XNUA==,,,1513130182 153040913,153087707,2017-12-13 01:56:49,">>153087561 Nietzsche is an overrated twat, easily disgarded in the east and popularized beyond his station, fuckin Spengler had a larger impact back in the day but this guy was memed into infamy, doesn't mean he can hold a candle to the proponents of Liberty.",,Anonymous,Ancap-Braveheart.jpg,R4aojwagqdkPSGSUAEpvvQ==,,,1513130209 153040913,153087916,2017-12-13 01:59:15,">>153040913 Haha kill yourself, angry faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513130355 153040913,153087974,2017-12-13 01:59:56,">>153052308 >healthcare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFoXyFmmGBQ",,Anonymous,,,,,1513130396 153040913,153089311,2017-12-13 02:16:10,">>153047953 private property rights were foreign to 18th century Anglo liberalism??? boi what",,Anonymous,,,,,1513131370 153040913,153089370,2017-12-13 02:16:52,">>153040913 Libertarianism and an-cap are just mind games with no basis in reality. It's literally 'government is bad and that's all that matters' the philosophy. Ask one of these people of their opinions on any political issue, and they'll just argue how more 'freedom' will fix it. There's no debate to be had about anything other than how bad the government is. I can't fucking believe I used to be one of you people. I'm so glad I grew out of that phase.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513131412 153040913,153089629,2017-12-13 02:20:02,">>153089370 You probably didn't learn much when you were. What, did it sound good to you at the time and you just went along with it? Or are you just trying to add credibility to your weak claim?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513131602 153040913,153089732,2017-12-13 02:21:25,OP sucks multiple nigger cocks simultaneously,,Anonymous,IMG_1553.jpg,s6wcjNVtgJsukVau8C+0ig==,,,1513131685 153040913,153090040,2017-12-13 02:25:42,">>153089370 >went from fake understanding of freedom to full on bootlicker Good one",,Anonymous,,,,,1513131942 153040913,153090719,2017-12-13 02:35:05,I am only a moderately right libertarian and still consider some profressivism right of center. I believe you can be both libertarian and progressive.,,Anonymous,aged-man-smiling-camera-16618230.jpg,eVhK8FzjSd4YPUE8IaW5fQ==,US,,1513132505 153040913,153090873,2017-12-13 02:37:29,">>153045090 https://youtu.be/LKaVwhYhM0Q",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513132649 153040913,153090906,2017-12-13 02:38:03,">>153040913 >Honest question: How would a true libertarian government protect me , a simple goyim, from the elite bankers and Jewish tricks?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513132683 153040913,153090934,2017-12-13 02:38:22,">>153069143 Ah. Bask in the glories of a capitalist police state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513132702 153040913,153091161,2017-12-13 02:41:34,">>153078294 Dismissing semantics is the key to the fascist cause tho, them being anti-intelectual and all.. However its probably the most important thing to get right, or else your just living in your own head, which is fine for authoritarians",,Anonymous,,,,,1513132894 153040913,153091196,2017-12-13 02:42:14,">>153042540 America was founded on libertarian ideals. You may not like it, but it's the truth. The groundwork for libertarian philosophy comes from as early as the Spanish scholastics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513132934 153040913,153091201,2017-12-13 02:42:17,">>153090906 What the hell is a bank going to do to you on its own? Offer you an account?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513132937 153040913,153091344,2017-12-13 02:44:27,">>153045586 Communists are an open threat to everyone's private property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133067 153040913,153091390,2017-12-13 02:45:01,">>153080797 Great back and forth, but you guys are Talking about two diffrent positions , the objective basis for property =/= subjective claim But Atleast this is much better then what /pol/ usually turns into",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133101 153040913,153091465,2017-12-13 02:46:01,">>153045723 We no longer hope to bring it about via democracy, if that's your main concern. As long as there's a state, its concern is to keep immigration to a minimum.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133161 153040913,153091528,2017-12-13 02:46:59,">>153091201 uhhhhhhhhhh charge me retardedly high rates on a mortgage because there's no one in place to stop it? wtf do you mean ""on its own""?They're already ""on their own""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513133219 153040913,153091562,2017-12-13 02:47:26,">>153046079 I wish I was. Dixie is the greatest, niggers need not apply.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133246 153040913,153091577,2017-12-13 02:47:37,this man did litteraly nothing wrong,,Anonymous,2017-11-29-13-12-22-1479504304.jpg,+/0c+D7d87Xvtn7e/KYl+g==,NL,,1513133257 153040913,153091664,2017-12-13 02:48:56,">>153089732 Thanks for the cringe. >>153090040 >>153089629 >Y-y-you don't u-understand m-muh freedom or muh self-determination AKA the same shit that every fucking political movement memes about Same argument every fucking time. I got tired of pretending that muh invisible hand was the 'best option' as you guys always claim. I got tired of the constant, autistic shouting of the importance of 'individualism' and how bad collectivism of any sort was. I got tired of the retarded negligence of basic fucking services. Most of all, I got tired of how unrealistic and artificial the philosophy was. It gets fucking old. You guys are the most masturbatory movements in existence. You're worse than the braindead communists in this aspect. I know you guys are intelligent, and I don't think you are completely naive, but don't get butthurt when somebody leaves your shitty movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133336 153040913,153091790,2017-12-13 02:50:48,">>153046160 Neighbourhoods form between people willing to cooperate, shit like this would be an incentive for people to move next to their friends or family. It'd be a pain to live if you regard a neighbour's presence as negative.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133448 153040913,153091957,2017-12-13 02:53:20,">>153046592 Of course, though you're still 6 months behind on your ideology. By hyperindividualism we mean those who completely disregard others. It's not an ethical issue, but a moral one, so we condemn it on moral grounds and disassociate with those people wherever necessary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133600 153040913,153092015,2017-12-13 02:54:16,">>153050877 >legal positivism Yeah nevermind, maybe America really should be glassed",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133656 153040913,153092038,2017-12-13 02:54:39,">>153091528 You took a mortgage with a high rate, knowing you couldn't pay it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133679 153040913,153092194,2017-12-13 02:56:50,">>153047561 Taxation disproportionately affects White people, especially in heterogeneous countries. Shit, I live in an ethnostate and we are stuck with the bill of the gypsies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513133810 153040913,153092441,2017-12-13 03:00:14,">>153091664 >invisible hand Seem like you didn't learn much economically. >how bad collectivism of any sort was. >any sort From What im reading, you didn't really get that far into the movement, all this seems to be centered around Left-Libertarianism at best.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513134014 153040913,153092604,2017-12-13 03:02:37,"calls others cucks fights to bring about their own serfdom out of deluded belief they get to be one of techno-aristocracy calls this freedom and liberation lmao",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513134157 153040913,153093301,2017-12-13 03:13:41,">>153092441 >Y-y-you w-were n-never a part o-of o-our m-movement >A-Adam S-Smith i-is e-elementary >It w-wasn't REAL an-cap >I-it gets b-better t-trust me Get over yourself, faggot. Stop doing these mental gymnastics to resist accepting that somebody in your movement left dissatisfied. I was part of it for a while, I grew out of it, and I cam to disagree with it in retrospect. Let it the fuck go.",,Anonymous,1510716969894.jpg,05A3CUmk4PqE2fPPQA5dtw==,,,1513134821 153040913,153094091,2017-12-13 03:25:39,">>153093301 What I saying is half of the stuff you're stating is literally just intro into basic Libertarianism. You literally haven't presented any doctrine of libertarianism other than its just Invisible hand in individualism. Which can easily be applied to Classical Liberalism. Meaning, those aspect aren't what make up Libertarianism as a whole. Also, the only thing you have presented were complaint rather than a actually arguments. In addition to that, as you stated before. > I got tired of pretending that muh invisible hand was the 'best option' as you guys always claim. > pretending What the hell did you pretend? What were you peer pressured or something? I really have a hard time believing you where and Libertarian if the only thing you can cite is Muh invisible hand ( which is a satirical joke among libertarians) and Individualism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513135539 153040913,153094110,2017-12-13 03:25:58,">>153040913 Is this the thread where state actors and professional PR goons pose as libertarians, taking over the conversations and gradually twisting the public perception of the libertarian party until it's indistinguishable from the ""Racist Fascist Nazis"" that the Alt-Right movement came to be affiliated with by the same methods and completely undermining the chance for a third party to gain any ground in the next few rounds of elections? Because boy howdy, this thread and it's entire concept reeks of professional manipulation and propaganda work.",,Anonymous,iwillnotbetoldwhattobait.png,YlGhG8sKcgpotBc33UJGRQ==,,,1513135558 153040913,153094652,2017-12-13 03:34:30,">>153094091 >THIS DUDE JIST COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A PART OF MY CLUB BECAUSE IF HE WAS HE'D NEVER LEAVE >PROVE TO ME THAT YOU IS WORTHY OF ONCE BEING AN-CAP Do you honestly not see how autistic and cultish you're being right now?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136070 153040913,153094917,2017-12-13 03:38:49,">>153094652 Im the autistic one wanting to know some critics on my ideology, yet you still haven't provided an argument?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136329 153040913,153094948,2017-12-13 03:39:17,">>153055178 >dude nothing is real lmao Killing degenerates like you is not only not condemnable ethically or morally, it's the fucking moral imperative.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136357 153040913,153094977,2017-12-13 03:39:48,">>153092604 did you just try to imply but made a reddit spacing dumpster fire of a post",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136388 153040913,153095036,2017-12-13 03:40:49,">>153093301 >It w-wasn't REAL an-cap bitcoin. bitcoin is real ancap",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136449 153040913,153095086,2017-12-13 03:41:33,">>153094110 the only group that actually could defeat the fascist nazis were white supremacists",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136493 153040913,153095152,2017-12-13 03:42:33,">>153060232 >lol America isn't libertarian >posts a picture of a bunch of libertarians",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136553 153040913,153095265,2017-12-13 03:44:19,">>153062531 >implying ANY of that is worse than the neo-kosher ZOG",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136659 153040913,153095425,2017-12-13 03:47:04,">>153086646 Rand and Friedman aren't libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136824 153040913,153095519,2017-12-13 03:48:41,">>153091577 Except be a homosexual and poison capitalist economics with his short time preference faggotry?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513136921 153040913,153095925,2017-12-13 03:55:52,">>153041679 >logical sound is logical sound wherever it comes from That logics can still be aplied against you, that is why you may have 2 groups with identical ideology and opposite goals.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1513137352 153040913,153096749,2017-12-13 04:09:00,">>153055178 You mix up slaves and free men dude. However. The state consists of the people and you shouldnt even see a difference between the two. The acctual hierarchical organization is in the aristocratic class witch sets the general direction of the state. The general conciousness of aristocracy must support it and the burgeois layer is free to own property and not allowed to decide anything, they still have to support the decissions of the aristocrats for the state to work. But for my state to exist the conciousness must be Might is Right. And slavery should be allowed.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1513138140 153040913,153098293,2017-12-13 04:35:51,">>153095425 Enlightenment > Liberalism > Libertarianism > Anarcho-Capitalism, ours is the tradition of Liberty and we should be proud of it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513139751 153040913,153098666,2017-12-13 04:42:11,">>153064147 What's the difference between a coercively organised government and a privately organised government? What is it about the contract that can't achieve what the state can achieve?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513140131 153040913,153098829,2017-12-13 04:45:06,">>153098666 > maybe we don't need rulers > we can do it ourselves! Careful there satan, the sheep might see the abattoir fence and the farmers for what they are.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513140306 153040913,153098843,2017-12-13 04:45:22,">>153040913 Hello brothers, I have found my home. Just one thing though: Net Neutrality is a shit bureaucratic power grab by lefty companies. I hope you get this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513140322 153040913,153098984,2017-12-13 04:47:38,">>153098843 To be honest, you're probably right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513140458 153040913,153100544,2017-12-13 05:14:12,,,Anonymous,hi mom and dad.jpg,IWSH2ZlkCzHODLsK+BO52A==,,,1513142052 153040913,153101257,2017-12-13 05:27:31,"I've been away from /pol/ for 8 months, I'm glad to see that you guys still strong here.",,Anonymous,1487069864060.jpg,qxm+GyIOpsAY5X9sjrzHCw==,BR,,1513142851 153040913,153101681,2017-12-13 05:35:21,">>153101257 Are you part of the free brazil movement? Also place has turned to shit recently, there's a a flood of child nazi larpers that seem to be on holidays.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513143321 153040913,153101770,2017-12-13 05:37:10,">LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM Yes it does that's exactly what Libertarianism means. fucking trump loving newfags stop pretending you give a fuck about liberty you cucks",,Anonymous,,,,,1513143430 153040913,153102093,2017-12-13 05:43:23,">>153101681 I'm a oldfag /pol/tard and ex-fash, just a edgy AnCap 14/88 in the last few years. I prefer not get involved with any movement officially, I only go on protests to kick commies faggots desu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OYZB6FCswk",,Anonymous,1511029299204.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,BR,,1513143803 153040913,153102205,2017-12-13 05:45:57,">>153102093 > ex-fash, just a edgy AnCap 14/88",,Anonymous,1509897419320.gif,k7tHcnfDnmR4J/eLHhURHw==,,,1513143957 153040913,153102239,2017-12-13 05:46:38,">>153101770 Nice try, whomever the fuck you're affiliated with.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513143998 153040913,153102503,2017-12-13 05:51:38,">>153102205 Hahahah, just a way of describing the things, I just want to be a AnCap and gas the kikes.",,Anonymous,Happy_Merchant_-_The_Thing (1).gif,UPs1wtcmr9iXBKeuO72YJQ==,BR,,1513144298 153040913,153103012,2017-12-13 06:01:30,">>153040913 Man, am I ever afraid of your libertardian Right Wang Deth Squibs. Hell, I'd pay to see right-libertardos and ancraps go to war. An unwashed horde of 15 year old memelords, fat neckbeards and autismo code monkeys being goaded on by a few wannabe banksters and upper management types...",,Anonymous,pol_innawoods.webm,Wo5jsRv9mXPZZVTeLxBE+g==,,,1513144890 153040913,153103124,2017-12-13 06:03:51,">>153103012 Weak bait, bro.",,Anonymous,thing kek.jpg,SdIWcuXKr41R1bWM4k52XQ==,BR,,1513145031 153040913,153103535,2017-12-13 06:12:06,">>153103124 Sad thing about it is it's true.",,Anonymous,milslurp.jpg,eJtnkFkfufyLw8S9OPHRTg==,,,1513145526 153141478,153141478,2017-12-13 13:52:25,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - The Eternal Anglo Edition,Anonymous,don_t_tread_on_me_british_flag__by_britannialoyalist-d9t6k2v.png,FiooE+M83vlCwmF2FuTPug==,,,1513173145 153141478,153141564,2017-12-13 13:53:17,>>153141478,,Anonymous,1512254335244.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1513173197 153141478,153141591,2017-12-13 13:53:34,FP FOR HOPPE,,TPM,1492855433454.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1513173214 153141478,153141660,2017-12-13 13:54:22,,,Anonymous,1509898814284.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,,,1513173262 153141478,153141678,2017-12-13 13:54:31,">>153141478 For once I will show support for libertarian anglos",,Anonymous,donttreadontea.png,REAhx2hYmiu05wX+t/LOSg==,,,1513173271 153141478,153141679,2017-12-13 13:54:32,">I am what is necessary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyQe4P2O-Vc",,Anonymous,Physical_Removal.png,v5rZc6yyCsU/hsyQp1izFA==,,,1513173272 153141478,153141740,2017-12-13 13:55:08,>>153141678,,Anonymous,d14.png,Tp30Z9t59ADbqsMl4fG2LQ==,,,1513173308 153141478,153141812,2017-12-13 13:55:49,Post white-pilled jews,,Anonymous,Race2.png,/LKNdQt4/TevYTtteG1hSQ==,,,1513173349 153141478,153141815,2017-12-13 13:55:51,">>153141679 >shilling my vid in an /lrg/ This is a good day",,Anonymous,19366533_1375867869148195_7668086294681488607_n.png,H/fNSpmBDdWy+tnkOMNohA==,,,1513173351 153141478,153141830,2017-12-13 13:56:01,,,Anonymous,1501433628524.gif,tTyQFAz7tEArfjcNykyfJQ==,US,,1513173361 153141478,153141842,2017-12-13 13:56:07,,,Anonymous,NatSoc.png,zNS96NxJTkpFNFzb0v2zvA==,,,1513173367 153141478,153141877,2017-12-13 13:56:28,">>153141678 >anglos never trust em",,TPM,1513022900079.jpg,4CnfDZfWys52B1mbpraKxA==,,,1513173388 153141478,153141893,2017-12-13 13:56:39,"Niggers mind your business, and let us white folks be. You'd better heed my warnin'",,Anonymous,kk says.png,QsRVuQg6PwwA8zRDNeg6qA==,,,1513173399 153141478,153141969,2017-12-13 13:57:21,,,Anonymous,1509746420166.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1513173441 153141478,153141995,2017-12-13 13:57:38,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R75RnqbAow,,Anonymous,smugancapgirl.png,zx0RdrbbNLhdb0I44MOEkA==,,,1513173458 153141478,153142025,2017-12-13 13:57:55,,,Anonymous,Govt=Dindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,,,1513173475 153141478,153142033,2017-12-13 13:57:57,">>153141478 Anglos need to secure their home property once more",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1513173477 153141478,153142064,2017-12-13 13:58:19,">>153142033 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWH0wPzzhtw",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1513173499 153141478,153142068,2017-12-13 13:58:22,>>153141812,,Anonymous,hoppehand.jpg,gbX7AkP2qFSvqM29R9VzuQ==,,,1513173502 153141478,153142369,2017-12-13 14:01:38,,,Anonymous,1490140529536.jpg,aThGpkXG8xi+q76M+EbJ8A==,,,1513173698 153141478,153142427,2017-12-13 14:02:14,reporting in,,Anonymous,sassy afro gadsden.jpg,2nPLY6dVG7dVy1NGjIft4w==,SK,,1513173734 153141478,153142535,2017-12-13 14:03:27,,,Anonymous,snakecharmerbomb.png,n7Xb6INxgwmhWiaAHUdMOg==,,,1513173807 153141478,153142537,2017-12-13 14:03:28,,,Anonymous,RR (10).png,bIDcgm8bWRNUv8EN7ypOkQ==,,,1513173808 153141478,153142621,2017-12-13 14:04:23,">>153142537 Aesthetic LRG",,Anonymous,wordcopter.png,zMbuOtW/Xaoks/HNApbaBg==,,,1513173863 153141478,153142660,2017-12-13 14:04:44,">>153141478 This is such a shitty OP >REEEEEEE DON'T COME HERE QUESTIONING MY BELIEFS THIS IS AN ECHO CHAMBER",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513173884 153141478,153142799,2017-12-13 14:06:06,">>153142660 go right ahead canadian. many like you come, but only we remain",,TPM,5stagesblack.png,GWMVzgaV1vE2T5rjSPReug==,,,1513173966 153141478,153142852,2017-12-13 14:06:36,">>153142660 We direct you to relevant sources and say questions are welcome, what do you want? Do you actually have anything to add?",,Anonymous,tolerancercausesrot(hoppe).jpg,K+VaO87hUNMhbjwz+q50AQ==,,,1513173996 153141478,153143191,2017-12-13 14:10:02,">>153142852 >>153142799 I AM libertarian right. The implication that ""questions"" are welcome, but dissenting arguments are not, is against libertarian principles.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513174202 153141478,153143253,2017-12-13 14:10:38,,,Anonymous,how_gov_solved_the_heathcare_crisis.png,ToJnpEms2s4wNkpzgsgrqQ==,,,1513174238 153141478,153143284,2017-12-13 14:11:00,>>153141478,,Anonymous,19190863_2034353416786458_490010353_n.png,VKgx17Fw8/eevsAGi/bWoA==,,,1513174260 153141478,153143375,2017-12-13 14:11:53,">>153143191 arguments are welcome, but we will argue against it. most just don't like the arguments and leave anyways",,TPM,Physical removal of poor people.png,wJzWoYBK/9HPf6r6UpWdqw==,,,1513174313 153141478,153143749,2017-12-13 14:15:40,"Libertarianism will never get popular in Britain The normies here fucking worship ARE NASHINONAL ELF SERVISSS",,Anonymous,27035690786_c9a93b0e38_b.jpg,4hJL3mG/T1mIROzxyaMFYg==,GB,,1513174540 153141478,153144121,2017-12-13 14:19:26,">>153143749 don't lose hope, the british solution would be to empower the monarchy, then convince the monarchy to implement a free market society",,TPM,,,,,1513174766 153141478,153144136,2017-12-13 14:19:36,">>153143191 You have no such ""right to argument"" or ""freedom of speech"" and we cannot forcibly remove you. so to say its ""against libertarian principles"" to be dismissive to retards like you is a load of horse shit",,Anonymous,Hoppe.png,C4/jD1inJBEkezX6p7niNw==,,,1513174776 153141478,153144684,2017-12-13 14:24:45,">>153144121 >then convince the monarchy to implement a free market society you under estimate the power of the british normie muh benifts and muh nhs is a sacred cow to them, the only reason ukips do shit up in the working class north is their devotion to free markets",,Anonymous,file.png,Kp7feK9lLuMic/MzN6wirA==,GB,,1513175085 153141478,153144997,2017-12-13 14:27:40,">>153144684 >you under estimate the power of the british normie just dangle a spotted dick in front of them and say ""Monarchy, Monarchy, Monarchy"" over and over while they eat, eventually they will get the idea that monarchy = gibs and will support you",,TPM,,,,,1513175260 153141478,153145240,2017-12-13 14:30:06,">>153143749 The NHS is our holy grail of politics. Saying ""I'm an NHS worker"" has about the same weight as saying ""I am of God"" a while ago, and the attitude is still just ""more funds will fix it"" (of course no matter how inefficent it is one can always just claim more funds will fix it)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513175406 153141478,153145529,2017-12-13 14:32:58,">>153144997 the monarchy is going to go after lizzie dies anyway, charles isn't really that liked, his political beliefs are a weird mix of environmentalism, traditionalism and gulf arab semen also 40% of the population here voted corbyn and another 40% voted for the ""conservative"" party",,Anonymous,article-2562627-1B9E82E900000578-475_634x421.jpg,QHfJwHyOvHqQ82ZGpF8uew==,GB,,1513175578 153141478,153145735,2017-12-13 14:35:02,">>153145529 Perfect grounds for revolt and the establishment of the libertarian order. >weak monarch >little public cohesion >enough foreigners involved to bog down even the best system",,TPM,,,,,1513175702 153141478,153145915,2017-12-13 14:36:47,">>153141478 Where do you draw the line between Paleo-Conservatism and RW-Libertarian?",,Anonymous,image.jpg,l7//YXZ1S0+SAcgQ28RN3A==,US,,1513175807 153141478,153146031,2017-12-13 14:37:46,">>153145735 the kind of people here that don't like the forigners here don't like capitalism, especialy how cheap romanian migrant labours have made low skills wages plummet",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513175866 153141478,153146435,2017-12-13 14:41:28,">>153146031 in the end all you gotta do is convince the mythical 10% of the population that would actually do. to be on your side you gotta get out and start talking about how great the monarchy is(since a monarch would, out of necessity, practice 'free enough' market economics",,TPM,,,,,1513176088 153141478,153146985,2017-12-13 14:46:34,">libertarians jerking off to pictures of bloody dictators and calling for violence I used to think libertarianism was the only ideology that couldn't lead to totalitarianism because it seemed antithetical to it. I was wrong, just like the communists, there will always be a group that believes utopia is just around the corner if we just kill everyone opposed to us. You people are fucking insane and the alt-right is a cancer.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1513176394 153141478,153147053,2017-12-13 14:47:05,">>153143749 Do you want Libertarianism to grow in the UK?",,Anonymous,don_t_tread_on_me__uk____wallpaper__2560_x_1440__by_uda4754-dbo32cj.png,OaJ065pgn1Gk960J/VuX1A==,,,1513176425 153141478,153147315,2017-12-13 14:49:25,">>153146985 bye friend, don't let the digital winds byte you on your ass",,TPM,1492683483279.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,,,1513176565 153141478,153147376,2017-12-13 14:49:53,">>153145915 I draw the line between paleolib/paleocon at absolute property rights. In that image I would only really consider Hoppe, Rothbard and Ronny to be true Paleo or Right Wing Libertarians, though the others come very close.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513176593 153141478,153147468,2017-12-13 14:50:48,">>153146985 >libertarians jerking off to pictures of bloody dictators and calling for violence literally who is calling for killing innocents",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513176648 153141478,153147684,2017-12-13 14:52:45,">>153147053 >>153146435 not especially there's no appitete in the public for it Im probally cloesest to traditional protectionist pre thatcher tories",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513176765 153141478,153147829,2017-12-13 14:53:54,"Helicopter Bros- a query: How does one go on a sick journey from being a basic bitch Misesian to a Carlylean reactionary? The final red pill is the Moldpill. https://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010/02/from-mises-to-carlyle-my-sick-journey.html",,Anonymous,rothbards son.jpg,ieGmpr6gxGQlK/6RT0gv3Q==,US,,1513176834 153141478,153148117,2017-12-13 14:56:41,">>153147829 Moldbug is a kike",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513177001 153141478,153148488,2017-12-13 15:00:14,">>153146985 >libertarians jerking off to pictures of bloody dictators and calling for violence Which bloody dictators are we jerking off to and we're not calling for violence. We are simply saying that we will be willing to use violence when we are agressed upon by leftists >I used to think libertarianism was the only ideology that couldn't lead to totalitarianism because it seemed antithetical to it. Totalitarianism implies a one-party state. That is not what I wish, nor is it what many in the /lrg/ want. Read Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn's 'Liberty of Equality' and Hans-Herman Hoppe's 'Democracy: The God That Failed', these books will give you a greater understanding to why many in the /lrg/ hate democracy and why it is actually antithetical to liberty. Here's what Friedrich Hayek had to say on this very issue: ""Well, I would say that, as long-term institutions, I am totally against dictatorships. But a dictatorship may be a necessary system for a transitional period. At times it is necessary for a country to have, for a time, some form or other of dictatorial power. As you will understand, it is possible for a dictator to govern in a liberal way. And it is also possible for a democracy to govern with a total lack of liberalism. Personally, I prefer a liberal dictator to democratic government lacking liberalism..."" You can have a dictatorship that is liberal.",,Anonymous,image.png,v4vsh0jcbshrwK1Y/HNNPg==,,,1513177214 153141478,153148615,2017-12-13 15:01:43,">>153147684 >cuckservative",,Anonymous,16839320_1965800040308463_1164083157_n.png,4EJbpcVpfSHCSL6mH/39Bg==,,,1513177303 153141478,153148736,2017-12-13 15:02:58,">>153141478 Post your scores /lrg/",,Anonymous,politiscalesadditonalinfo.png,EmUxvlDSNmtYNzZyUtk8rA==,,,1513177378 153141478,153149015,2017-12-13 15:05:45,">>153147684 only because you are not speaking loudly of it! you brits certainly are defeatists",,TPM,,,,,1513177545 153141478,153149046,2017-12-13 15:06:03,">>153148736 http://politiscales.la-commune.net/en_US/results/?t1=24&t0=50&e0=10&e1=45&p0=12&p1=83&b0=24&b1=64&c0=5&c1=83&m1=74&j0=36&j1=19&s1=62&s0=12&comp=67&anar=100 test",,Anonymous,politscalesscores.png,7m9CkkYceIdI4EnEQDozig==,,,1513177563 153141478,153149071,2017-12-13 15:06:24,">>153146985 >just like the communists, there will always be a group that believes utopia is just around the corner if we just kill everyone opposed to us. We don't believe in utopia. Man isn't perfect therefore you cannot have a perfect society. libertarianism is very realistic and has existed in the past. Most countries were classically liberal to an extent at one point in the past, especially the UK in the 18th and 19th centuries. >You people are fucking insane and the alt-right is a cancer. That first part is not an argument. Secondly, who said anything about the Alt-Right? Most of them are Keynesian, NatSocs who LARP as SS Officers and tell everyone to 'READ SIEGE'. Fuck them.",,Anonymous,15268076_1188375851230732_2679676027705568361_n.png,aU644NA/qsYNY+wU0UdZDw==,,,1513177584 153141478,153149150,2017-12-13 15:07:22,">>153149015 I've noticed that about them, is it time to make propaganda to counter-push against the extreme cuckery coming out of Britain? Showcase bongs being chad?",,Anonymous,crushantifa.jpg,Y9QyMvVTGAf467BJ4nvRUw==,,,1513177642 153141478,153149156,2017-12-13 15:07:25,">>153148615 no i fucking despise modern tories. Im talking about the pre-60s nationalist kenyesnist tories. Free trade has fucking ruined the north and moved all the heavy industry to poland and china and all the clothes industry to pakistan and bangladesh",,Anonymous,zE9fXeq.jpg,cdFL2zRmcZDb37wTeRpbPA==,GB,,1513177645 153141478,153149343,2017-12-13 15:09:10,">>153149150 sounds like a plan friend",,TPM,Americans creed.jpg,tb8iqHfjARAvdPI8WeMfUw==,,,1513177750 153141478,153149573,2017-12-13 15:11:05,">>153148488 >You can have a dictatorship that is liberal American Revolution BTFO. If only those Boston rum runners and rabble rousers knew how good they had it under the good King George!",,Anonymous,tory flag.png,pv5klQqUE+kvYGHtmBUgcQ==,US,,1513177865 153141478,153150136,2017-12-13 15:16:45,">>153149573 >this but unironically",,Anonymous,96878801.jpg,XLkSUYqqxJh8SXjL7A6/wg==,,,1513178205 153141478,153150187,2017-12-13 15:17:11,">>153149156 >leftist economics",,Anonymous,1512418357847.png,NGyV24YO7QLtl97PciQxnw==,,,1513178231 153141478,153150565,2017-12-13 15:20:41,">>153150136 I was being serious. Our country was founded by a combination of Puritan nutjobs, rum smugglers, and aristocratic slave drivers. USA! USA! USA!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513178441 153141478,153150602,2017-12-13 15:21:00,">>153150187 dude just chuck yourself and your fellow working class brits under the buss lmao",,Anonymous,_86665976_imag1674.jpg,VrM3XEDASn3HcJZ7yoY4Og==,GB,,1513178460 153141478,153151089,2017-12-13 15:26:02,"What do you think about mandatory vaccinations? True anything mandatory is possibly against the NAP, but what if some people like those who are immunocompromised can't choose to vaccinate because they're allergic to vaccine ingredients or have their defenses too low? Isn't it me catching your preventable diseases because you distrust vaccine against the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513178762 153141478,153151779,2017-12-13 15:33:12,">>153149156 >Free trade has fucking ruined the north and moved all the heavy industry to poland and china and all the clothes industry actually, that would be taxes and regulation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513179192 153141478,153151856,2017-12-13 15:33:58,">>153141679 I like this. I really like this.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513179238 153141478,153151916,2017-12-13 15:34:31,">>153149573 what would America look like today if it had stayed under British rule? probably the same laws as Britain. I think it is good that we won, even though it ruined our Anglo heritage. we could always try to move back",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513179271 153141478,153152246,2017-12-13 15:37:26,">>153151779 i don't want a race to the bottom with china rather keep muh green belt and muh NHS",,Anonymous,344DC6C700000578-3600482-image-a-10_1463731443360.jpg,Yv/U906qFWacmZq/N/ynhw==,GB,,1513179446 153141478,153152316,2017-12-13 15:38:10,Guys we should flesh out a ideology that merges ethnonationalism and paleolibertarianism with fascistic inspired visual symbolism.,,Anonymous,4B8C3CC3-E83B-4E18-93D5-CBD0BB2510C3.jpg,B+pQLi7V5i4htyfQGyj2Ig==,GB,,1513179490 153141478,153152530,2017-12-13 15:40:00,">>153141478 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nse0Ch5_cKs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513179600 153141478,153153370,2017-12-13 15:47:58,">>153152316 >waving around football flars is fascist imagery",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513180078 153250575,153250575,2017-12-14 11:34:40,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,physical_removal.jpg,ahSJZWS3twQXS67dedGGPg==,,,1513251280 153250575,153251172,2017-12-14 11:40:13,Still don't see how minarchists can have a left/right orientation when there's no government to institute policies.,,Anonymous,f7a4980.jpg,6NerDHOoWoIoAxVfwRRnOw==,US,,1513251613 153250575,153251578,2017-12-14 11:43:44,Anarcho capitalosts are GAY,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513251824 153250575,153251757,2017-12-14 11:45:16,">>153251172 Because the state isn't necessary for bringing about a right wing community or nation? Anarchism could also be seen as a free market of idea (so long as these ideas respect property rights). Yes, people could be degenerate, but it's a safe prediction to say that right wing conservative values will be stronger and more prolific. Private property is also the very means by which right wing (white) communities can form and reject degenerates/leftists/minorities.",,Anonymous,thecommunity.jpg,zbnAtWLaNPmz3KOFmG4SyQ==,,,1513251916 153250575,153251827,2017-12-14 11:45:53,,,Anonymous,4 Stages.png,n9rZTfUQEHwJ2N0kJo1zkA==,US,,1513251953 153250575,153251834,2017-12-14 11:45:56,>>153251578,,Anonymous,autismsuperpowerpepe.png,Tr+TKyhq5wwmqopqTDuMNw==,,,1513251956 153250575,153252049,2017-12-14 11:47:44,Good to see this coming back onto /pol/.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1513252064 153250575,153252052,2017-12-14 11:47:47,">>153251834 We need a government, a MINIMUM government you fucking statist",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513252067 153250575,153252361,2017-12-14 11:50:19,">>153251827 The typical liberal response to libertarianism is shit. What the state achieves through taxations means fucking nothing. Really the state doesn't achieve anything, it is not an individual, it is the individual people who achieve despite the state. Any high-achieving state would do better without the state. In fact, all of these ""liberal responses"" are bull, not sure what the point of including them is. Liberals will always have a retarded response to any idea you present, they are pigeons who crap on the chess board. >Libertarianism's refusal to take a stand against degeneracy What? This is not a part of libertarianism at all. >Outside of people like Hoppe Oh I see, so you remove all right-wing libertarians from libertarianism and then shit on whatever dredges you've got left. Jesus, this whole image is 'non argument'",,Anonymous,removeyourself.png,rM9LtNLIDaRqWNQB8V0GoQ==,,,1513252219 153250575,153252501,2017-12-14 11:51:28,">>153252052 >want the abolishment of the state >get called a statist",,Anonymous,ancapatcomputer.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,,,1513252288 153250575,153252843,2017-12-14 11:54:29,">>153251172 >Im too stupid to understand theft",,Anonymous,naturalorder.png,ilQ3ENyaaqcvjd2AF+kIpg==,,,1513252469 153250575,153253195,2017-12-14 11:57:35,I am the Capitan of my soul.,,Anonymous,unknown-41.png,RvWrvt+4M/s/8NkcNVRzjA==,US,,1513252655 153250575,153253296,2017-12-14 11:58:27,">>153253195 Never forget Oklahoma",,Anonymous,iamthecaptain.png,tkdppsmpGNnY5zNE1Z6zzw==,,,1513252707 153250575,153253385,2017-12-14 11:59:18,">>153250575 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyQe4P2O-Vc I am what is necessary",,Anonymous,,,,,1513252758 153250575,153253573,2017-12-14 12:00:47,,,Anonymous,unknown (13).png,3YXlS1JeX20yA76UhRQxBw==,US,,1513252847 153250575,153253589,2017-12-14 12:00:55,>>153253385,,Anonymous,crushantifa.jpg,Y9QyMvVTGAf467BJ4nvRUw==,,,1513252855 153250575,153253610,2017-12-14 12:01:08,,,Anonymous,cantwell_GLR_huwhite_power.png,15LwdJYUUGB2bBTESww9sg==,US,,1513252868 153250575,153253635,2017-12-14 12:01:31,>>153250575,,Anonymous,15731740_1211542562247394_3781727334343663555_o.jpg,kOekY48LgWJheLGEsWd9gg==,,,1513252891 153250575,153253655,2017-12-14 12:01:43,">>153253573 Cease your homosexuality.",,Anonymous,RR_9.png,Z9ZD7zJb5JaxZxsQ54um6w==,US,,1513252903 153250575,153253676,2017-12-14 12:01:55,">>153250575 >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM u wot",,Anonymous,,,,,1513252915 153250575,153253821,2017-12-14 12:03:17,>>153253676,,Anonymous,1513026011949.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1513252997 153250575,153253853,2017-12-14 12:03:39,">>153253573 Please kill yourself",,Anonymous,pepenoose.png,petbmudBqRGUjuQPaKqoOg==,,,1513253019 153250575,153253979,2017-12-14 12:04:42,>>153253676,,Anonymous,exclusion(hoppe).jpg,osOj9VyjBhusgcQYjpx3TQ==,,,1513253082 153250575,153254139,2017-12-14 12:06:03,">>153253610 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion",,Anonymous,kkhead.png,SA7JvAoHRTVIFfAYkd2rgg==,,,1513253163 153250575,153254140,2017-12-14 12:06:04,">>153252501 Statist cuk, basic economic",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513253164 153250575,153254205,2017-12-14 12:06:25,">>153253676 Read this",,Anonymous,1509653076384.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1513253185 153250575,153254212,2017-12-14 12:06:31,">>153253821 >>153253979 Once you start forcing your will upon ""degenerates"" you become the state. You are literally a fascist parading as a libertarian, much like how North Korea calls itself a ""democratic republic"". Pls kill self.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513253191 153250575,153254241,2017-12-14 12:06:48,">>153250575 Libertarian Traitor Cuckold",,Anonymous,the problem with libertarians.png,rJ9xldKwA7ip04JEQz5Rwg==,US,,1513253208 153250575,153254438,2017-12-14 12:08:26,">>153254212 And how do you suppose we're supposed to maintain a libertarian social order if we just let degenerates, communists, and democrats operate freely and openly amongst us? If you were a priest, and a stripper came into your church, would you not throw her out?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513253306 153250575,153254439,2017-12-14 12:08:26,>>153254212,,Anonymous,15622078_1199025693499081_2141521364100791095_n.png,HSRhqXOosdCV80w46sJgZQ==,,,1513253306 153250575,153254513,2017-12-14 12:08:54,"Ancap is a literal meme ideology only followed unironically by autistic teens, even antifa anarchists are more likely to abolish the state than you fedora cunts",,Anonymous,1507023138567.png,BT/tdwpF/O23bvkyg/CUMg==,GB,,1513253334 153250575,153254664,2017-12-14 12:10:04,">>153254439 Cuck, mussolini was a communist degenerate obama voter theres no need to make him look like an antifa member, he openly supported antifa!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513253404 153250575,153254849,2017-12-14 12:11:34,">>153254513 Was that an attempt at an argument? Sorry friend, you must have made a small mistake there. In order for anyone to take you seriously, you should probably consider making a rational point rather than simply lashing out emotionally like those antifa retards. You can do better anon, I believe in you.",,Anonymous,1491087601131.png,ODODd0UryZa8L73JMbLiEg==,,,1513253494 153250575,153255027,2017-12-14 12:13:11,">>153254212 The state violates individual's rights, we do not. I will not ever violate even the most degenerate person's rights if they have not done so to me or someone else, I will never support the violation of their rights. However, I am well within MY RIGHTS to deny them service, ignore or ostracize them, deny them access to my property, and encourage other individuals to do the same. I am within my rights to live among like-minded individuals, and it is within our rights if some landlord wishes to impose certain anti-degeneracy rules for renting.",,Anonymous,crushtheantifamobvelma.png,YXnQvS3Ujlk6XmeTY7UG3Q==,,,1513253591 153250575,153255383,2017-12-14 12:16:05,">>153251172 Minarchy still has a government, retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513253765 153250575,153255450,2017-12-14 12:16:42,">>153254241 Do you know how to read? Libertarianism IS NOT against >race realism >discrimination (for example, discrimination against individuals who choose to 'express themselves' through rainbow dildo suits) >responding violently to violations of property (people coming into somewhere they do not own and forcing the owner or those the owner has allowed there out is a violation, force is justified) It is private property that gives us the very means to defend against communists, hippies, marxists, and welfare leeches. Those that violate property must be expelled or removed from existence. They must be excluded from society, at minimum.",,Anonymous,MustBePunished.png,nlOd0aD96iDkbfLfHX4/lA==,,,1513253802 153250575,153255451,2017-12-14 12:16:42,Bump advocating for the removal of degeneracy and statist cucks.,,Anonymous,1490448658309.png,7NqqA0+iZKl5jxuCejk8iA==,,,1513253802 153250575,153255496,2017-12-14 12:17:06,">>153250575 Plz stop appropriating socialist terminology thx.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513253826 153250575,153255581,2017-12-14 12:17:52,">>153254849 >1 post by this ID You haven't made a single """"argument"""" in this thread. If you want to keep repeating an unoriginal phrase you learnt off molymeme to give yourself a false feeling of superiority be my guest. Ironically molyneux isn't even ancap anymore.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513253872 153250575,153255636,2017-12-14 12:18:21,">>153254139 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders",,Anonymous,tolerancercausesrot(hoppe).jpg,K+VaO87hUNMhbjwz+q50AQ==,,,1513253901 153250575,153255654,2017-12-14 12:18:30,">>153255496 Please get in the helicopter",,Anonymous,15726335_1207859025949081_2179291484080556642_n.png,DOtw31xBMs0PtVq33OrzRw==,,,1513253910 153250575,153255759,2017-12-14 12:19:36,">>153254241 If you remove the social safety net low-iq shitskins won't want to come to your country.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513253976 153250575,153255812,2017-12-14 12:19:59,">>153255581 I have no reason to ignite an argument when you enter the thread flinging shit. Silly that you assume that I took that off of Molyjew by the way. Do you think it's a new concept to not engage with people that just enter a thread autistically screeching?",,Anonymous,1494650066560.png,pPQUQ0fMpSQ+ygmiZwhtng==,,,1513253999 153250575,153255861,2017-12-14 12:20:21,">>153255654 Thank marx that dictators like pinochet are no longer in power and the world is finally accepting the eternal true materialistic dialectic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513254021 153250575,153255987,2017-12-14 12:21:14,">>153255451 Love how ancaps always assume they'd be the ones with all the money and power in their imaginary ancap world, instead of being a literal cucked slave to whichever corporation had the strongest private military.",,Anonymous,1503750046613m.jpg,bwQcqyPezPI/lZj5xVJd7A==,GB,,1513254074 153250575,153255995,2017-12-14 12:21:15,">>153255496 Look, a faggot >>153255581 Look, an even bigger faggot! How could you possibly think that calling us autistic teenagers (despite the fact that our ideology was founded by a bunch of middle aged or elderly men) following a meme is an argument? All you're doing is insulting us, and then making a baseless claim (antifa being more likely to abolish the state). You again insult and an make an assumption with no basis, calling us fedora cunts. Do you need to people to explain every fucking word to you just to understand the basic concept of an argument, and that your post wasn't one?",,Anonymous,smugancapgirl.png,zx0RdrbbNLhdb0I44MOEkA==,,,1513254075 153250575,153256324,2017-12-14 12:22:28,">>153255496 No one has a monopoly upon linguistics. Anarcho Capitalism is a pretty shit name all things considered, because it's way too easy to consider it anti-heirarchy. I prefer Free Market Enthusiast, Private Property Society Advocate, or Esoteric Libert/aryan/ist personally.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513254148 153250575,153256443,2017-12-14 12:23:27,">>153255987 I love how you assume companies will just infinitely grow into state-like entities without the institution of the state to aid them and remove them from competition/ethics.",,Anonymous,sandrattler.png,AElYgJYPasriUjkCLFPmBw==,,,1513254207 153250575,153256509,2017-12-14 12:24:06,">>153255812 Interesting how whenever someone points out that ancap is a meme ideology it' ""not an argument"" but saying ""get in the helicopter statist xD"" somehow is. Your ilk are constantly throwing shit at everyone else for being ""collectivists"" but can't handle being attacked. Truly pathetic.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513254246 153250575,153256760,2017-12-14 12:26:10,">>153256324 Ancaps steal names just like capitalists steal the workers’ surplus value.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513254370 153250575,153256762,2017-12-14 12:26:10,">>153256509 When did we ever imply that we were arguing with you? What the hell is there to argue against?",,Anonymous,nougay.jpg,biRF6nK3+GDDgsQas3Rfgg==,,,1513254370 153250575,153256913,2017-12-14 12:27:27,">>153256443 How did the state arise from nothing then idiot? Your whole ideology is based around the state being antithetical to the ""free market"" even though nation states literally arose from the anarchy of pre-civilization. Whenever there is a vacuum it is filled by an entity. This has happened thousands of times throught history. Stop being retarded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513254447 153250575,153256960,2017-12-14 12:27:48,">>153256324 >esoteric",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513254468 153250575,153257076,2017-12-14 12:28:44,">>153256760 The worker and employer sign a voluntary contract. Even if I entertained the notion that the money made is 'the worker's surplus value', he is still in an arrangement where he has agreed that this shall go to his employer. He can end the contract at any time, and of course this means he loses his ability to make use of the employer's resources.",,Anonymous,capitalism.png,wo95Um3H/Y1/6j2iIEd62w==,,,1513254524 153250575,153257491,2017-12-14 12:32:31,">>153257076 Capitalists ignore the inherent power disparities between workers and bourguasi. Read some marx so that you’ll understand basic economics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513254751 153250575,153257496,2017-12-14 12:32:34,">>153256913 You seem really pissed my guy. Our ideology is not about the free market at all, you have a fundamental misunderstanding. Our ideology stems about natural law, undeniable truths. Humans act, humans own themselves, there are scarce resources. Because of this, the only way for humanity to avoid violent conflict and have peaceful resolution is through property ethics, assigning exclusive ownership of scarce goods. Otherwise people in their actions, desiring to change the world around them, will conflict over the use of these scarce goods.",,Anonymous,costimpliedbychoice(1).png,EOipyeLmwdLNJwFcpHLhlg==,,,1513254754 153250575,153257576,2017-12-14 12:33:11,>>153257496,,Anonymous,bodyandtimescarcity(2).png,Y5uSyOgcQL6XoakCpEKHig==,,,1513254791 153250575,153257616,2017-12-14 12:33:30,>>153257576,,Anonymous,ownershipmustbeestablished(3).png,upJL211PV06GsClBPJ7DYw==,,,1513254810 153250575,153257811,2017-12-14 12:35:14,">>153250575 .",,Anonymous,1509652776130.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1513254914 153250575,153257864,2017-12-14 12:35:42,">>153256509 Saying that some ideology is or is not valuable without any reason is just an opinion and not an argument. If you want to explain why you think an ideology is not valuable, then you have to be prepared with some kind of defense of your claim. Just as it is upon me to defend my claim that ancap is a great ideology if I bring it up. I wouldn't expect anyone to accept my opinion if I just went around saying ""AnCap is the best ideology, you should join it!"" without any supporting arguments. Come on anon, you're right at the precipice of reason. Just a little further and you might be able to squeeze out an original thought, or at least an unoriginal thought that you came to on your own.",,Anonymous,1490233953594.png,dJu7omlTs/2GiwUcSlNgtg==,,,1513254942 153250575,153257925,2017-12-14 12:36:16,">>153257496 The materialistic dialectic is the only law in sociology. Your fake capitalist values are a social construct.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513254976 153250575,153257959,2017-12-14 12:36:34,>>153250575,,Anonymous,maxresdddefault.jpg,fT/H1HEFduQFnlMder+FMA==,,,1513254994 153250575,153258015,2017-12-14 12:37:04,">>153256960 See here you are again making a ""point"" without making any argument. Anon are you challenged? Is everything okay?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255024 153250575,153258048,2017-12-14 12:37:20,">>153257925 Says you, tiny penis",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513255040 153250575,153258264,2017-12-14 12:39:07,">>153258048 Marxist superior intelligence is too much for confused proletariat that defends its opressors. Sad!",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255147 153250575,153258420,2017-12-14 12:40:25,">>153258264 Marxist tiny penis! Sad!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513255225 153250575,153258574,2017-12-14 12:41:46,">>153257491 Not all people are capable or willing to go through the long process of transforming a natural good into a consumer good. Not everyone wants to take the risk of putting a consumer good on the market. Some people prefer instead to sell their labor in return for an immediate return on their investment, while others are willing to suspend their gratification to generate a greater deal of value. Workers are those with higher time preference, Capitalists are those with a lower time preference. Capitalists' profits are the reward they obtain for proper forecasting of a market, assuming the risk of taking a good to market, waiting for a good to sell on the market, and organizing the process by which a natural good (or intermediate capital good) is transformed into a saleable consumer good(or intermediate capital good). Why would you try to force all people into one class or the other? Why would you force all workers to be capitalists, or all capitalists to be workers? This is unfair to those who value things differently than others, and extremely unfair to those incapable of being a capitalist due to their mental limitations.",,Anonymous,1485218199835.jpg,QXnKKlH6/OEU76my9xUz/A==,,,1513255306 153250575,153258755,2017-12-14 12:43:10,">>153258420 Is penis the only thing you can think of? Clearly an effect of excessive capitalism!",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255390 153250575,153258842,2017-12-14 12:43:54,">>153258420 Don't even waste your time on him, he is one of ""those"" people",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513255434 153250575,153258969,2017-12-14 12:45:05,">>153258574 The workers should control the means of production and plan democratically.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255505 153250575,153259023,2017-12-14 12:45:34,">>153258842 Yeah it's almost always better to just laugh at communists of all natures. There's nothing more funny than >>153257491 >Read some marx so that you’ll understand basic economics >Marx >economics What a fucking retard lmfao",,Anonymous,1500928429579.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,,,1513255534 153250575,153259071,2017-12-14 12:45:57,">>153258842 Typical capitalist has no arguments against the all mighty marx!",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255557 153250575,153259171,2017-12-14 12:46:42,">>153258755 Is the workers the only thing you can think about? Clearly an effect of excessive faggotry!",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513255602 153250575,153259189,2017-12-14 12:46:53,">>153253655 Remember why we do this - we want to be free from the immoral state so that we can be moral people. We want to be free from leftist subversion and state interference so that we may in peace live as part of a healthy community, and have a healthy family. The world we live in right now is hostile, it is poison, and as it stands we cannot have what as human beings we need and desire. This toxic environment must be cleansed if we are even to exist.",,Anonymous,freedomtodoright.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,,,1513255613 153250575,153259215,2017-12-14 12:47:06,">>153259023 If you read marx you’d turn into a communist. You are just scared of having to admit the superiority of socialism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255626 153250575,153259261,2017-12-14 12:47:29,">>153258969 Not all workers wish to accept the risk of being the owners of the means of production. Not all workers are capable of properly managing the means of production. The people that should own the means of production are those that are willing to accept the risk of owning them and are capable of managing them. Those that are bad at this should fail, not be propped up by society. Those that are good at this should be rewarded, to further promote more adequate resource allocation into the hands of those good at production.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255649 153250575,153259320,2017-12-14 12:47:59,">>153259171 Both men and women are workers. Typical reactionary view.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255679 153250575,153259381,2017-12-14 12:48:32,">>153259189 Capitalism is immoral.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255712 153250575,153259504,2017-12-14 12:49:26,">>153250575 ah-bloo-bloo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513255766 153250575,153259634,2017-12-14 12:50:12,">>153259261 In capitalism the proletariat has all the risk and no reward. In communism the proletariat has both the reward and risk.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255812 153250575,153259732,2017-12-14 12:50:54,">>153259320 So you admit to being a nigger faggot who sucks dick because MUH EGGS BLOY TAY SHUN",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513255854 153250575,153259879,2017-12-14 12:52:00,">>153259732 You should learn how to spell.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513255920 153250575,153260017,2017-12-14 12:53:02,Join our discord you faggots,,Anonymous,ancapstudies.jpg,7HU8QWOp/+CHcPyJHni3Jw==,,,1513255982 153250575,153260101,2017-12-14 12:53:43,">>153250575 Don't feed the troll",,Anonymous,ancapango2.png,h/CLCCv5tfxMURb9bQg+pA==,,,1513256023 153250575,153260163,2017-12-14 12:54:12,">>153260017 You cucks kicked me",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513256052 153250575,153260370,2017-12-14 12:55:41,">>153259634 In what way? I feel as if my post here >>153258574 adequately expresses how the capitalist is the one that has to suspend his return on his investment in order to generate the profit he is after. The ""proletariat""/worker is the one who has no risk, as he is selling his labor for an immediate return on his investment. There is no risk, because if the company fails, the worker already has his money, while the Capitalist is on the line for all of the value he has suspended in the process of consumer/capital goods generation. Don't make assertions without some kind of argument backing them up m8.",,Anonymous,1493192989667.png,mUI37I5YX1pWZ9TBl0IijA==,,,1513256141 153250575,153260450,2017-12-14 12:56:17,">>153260163 What was your handle and why were you kicked?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513256177 153250575,153260606,2017-12-14 12:57:34,">>153260370 If factory goes down the proletariat loses its jobs and starves while the capitalist just changes business or asks the government for handouts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513256254 153250575,153260816,2017-12-14 12:59:18,">>153260450 Nah(AUS-QLD)#8335, i told them i called someone statist cuck here or smthn they didnt tell me",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513256358 153250575,153261267,2017-12-14 13:02:35,">>153260017 do you have the pdf of these books",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1513256555 153250575,153262359,2017-12-14 13:10:37,"You read libraries of books written by autistic jewish economists why not read a book by the man who founded philosophy itself?",,Anonymous,Aristotle.jpg,VRhAKDsPnw7kiJQ3QtN7dw==,US,,1513257037 153250575,153263607,2017-12-14 13:18:43,">>153260606 This isn't true at all. Labor is one of the most mobile goods available to the vast majority of people. If a factory shuts down, the worker can go to another factory or another industry and their labor would be just as valuable there as it was in the original factory. Labor is always in demand by capitalists for their goods production, so people with valuable labor will always be able to find someone to purchase it. The capitalist, on the other hand, has lost out on everything they had invested into that factory. All of the value that was held up in the process is lost or must be liquidated at very low prices in order to recoup on the losses. Also, not all capitalists have a massive supply of wealth, like you seem to imagine they do. Only rather successful capitalists will have the ability to transfer to another industry or start another factory after a market failure without missing a beat. So, no, the risk is in no way on the worker. They get their money and they get out when things get hot. Capitalists are the ones with their wealth ""stuck"" in the process of market goods actualization.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513257523 153250575,153263800,2017-12-14 13:20:08,,,Anonymous,1498988910437.png,FkpPk097AlAih+aRADzoKg==,,,1513257608 153250575,153263963,2017-12-14 13:21:23,">>153260163 You were a shitposter who's shitting up the thread too, remove yourself.",,Anonymous,commieholdon.png,UmiB/Jj6KWoScgAKzTpmfA==,,,1513257683 153250575,153264084,2017-12-14 13:22:13,,,Anonymous,,,,,1513257733 153250575,153264204,2017-12-14 13:22:59,">>153263963 Literally what did i do",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1513257779 153250575,153264237,2017-12-14 13:23:14,">>153263607 Capitalists allways maintain a pool of unemployed. Read some marx so that you can understand basic economics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513257794 153250575,153264385,2017-12-14 13:24:17,">>153264237 >Read Marx >Basic economics Kek.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513257857 153250575,153264612,2017-12-14 13:25:52,">>153264237 Don't retreat behind your books to avoid supporting your arguments. I haven't thrown away my arguments in favor of telling you to read ""Man, Economy, and State"" with ""Power and Market"", even though I could. Support your claim or go shit up another thread.",,Anonymous,1504723997707.jpg,94577QdOjGQaPKDODppdYQ==,,,1513257952 153250575,153264637,2017-12-14 13:25:59,">>153264385 That’s right. Marx is too advanced for the average capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513257959 153250575,153264806,2017-12-14 13:27:09,Don't fall for the natsoc Jew. Socialism is as shit for whites as anyone else.,,Anonymous,natsocjew.png,Q87AsybOFM/8E9xzjNJjYQ==,,,1513258029 153250575,153264879,2017-12-14 13:27:38,">>153264612 Read the first sentence. Capitalists will always make sure there is unemployed. And when money runs out for capitalists then they’ll just get gov. handouts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513258058 153250575,153265771,2017-12-14 13:33:39,">>153264879 ""Capitalists"" that purchase State power or benefit from the State are not Capitalists, because everything the State obtains is obtained unethically. The word you are looking for is not Capitalist, but Plutocrat. They are those who buy power with their wealth. This is an anarcho capitalist/private property society thread. We reject the State on the grounds that it is that organization in society which has a monopoly upon the rights to generate, legitimize, and enforce legislation. Anyone that uses the State for their personal gain is participating in parasitism upon all those the State forces itself upon. Likewise, how exactly are Capitalists keeping a pool of unemployed? Capitalists are not some class of people that have secret club meetings to organize the market. Capitalists compete with one another. Labor is a scarce good, and as such Capitalists must compete for those who produce the labor. They have to convince laborers to work for the company rather than their competitors companies. Likewise, because anyone can be a capitalist if they have the capabilities to do it (or just the drive, really), then there is no way that some cabal of capitalists can maintain a surplus of labor in such that there is a permanent unemployed population, because as the unemployed population increases, the value of labor drops. As the value of labor drops, the incentive for entrepreneurs to purchase that labor for profitable ventures increases. As the incentive for entrepreneurs to enter into new ventures increases, the surplus labor is used up and the price of labor returns to it's natural market value. And you claim we don't know basic economics, yet you can't generate a simple chain of supply and demand deductions.",,Anonymous,1494727112801.jpg,BN4UdUIo+ESByUtgIVF67w==,,,1513258419 153250575,153266199,2017-12-14 13:36:35,">>153265771 The state was created by capitalists to oppress the proletariat. Ancaps are just statists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513258595 153250575,153266494,2017-12-14 13:38:28,">>153266199 You've gone through some mental gymnastics here that I can't quite follow. Provide supporting evidence or at least an actual argument, rather than an assertion, or leave.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513258708 153250575,153266943,2017-12-14 13:40:53,"Just here to drop a few citations from ""Democracy the God that failed"" that i picked up during my reading ""Secession increases ethnic,linguistic, religious, and cultural diversity, while centuries of centralization have stamped out hundreds of distinct cultures.2O Secession will end the forced integration brought about by centralization, and rather than stimulating social strife and cultural leveling, it will promote the peaceful, cooperative competition of different, territorially. separate cultures."" ""Contrary to widespread ""liberal"" (i.e., social democratic) beliefs, there is nothing ethically wrong with inequality."" ""it is precisely the absolute voluntariness of human association and separation-the absence of any form of forced integration-that makes peaceful relationships-free trade-between culturally, racially, ethnically, or religiously distinct'people possible."" ""A member of the human race who is completely incapable of understanding the higher productivity of labor performed under a division of labor based on private property is not properly speaking a person, but falls instead in the same moral category as an animal."" ""Indeed, as should be clear, as soon as the government's law and legislation supersedes family law and legislation (including inter-family arrangements in conjunction with marriages, joint-family offspring, inheritance, etc.), the value and importance of the institution of a family can only be systematically eroded. For what is a family if it cannot even find and provide for its own internal law and order! At the same time, as should be clear as well but has not been sufficiently noted, from the point of view of the government's rulers, their ability to interfere in internal family matters must be regarded as the ultimate prize and the pinnacle of their own power"" ""Whether intended or not, the welfare state promotes the proliferation of intellectually and morally inferior people.""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1513258853 153250575,153268045,2017-12-14 13:48:31,">>153266943 ""What the countercultural libertarians failed to recognize, and what true libertarians cannot emphasize enough, is that the restoration of private property rights and laissez-faire economics implies a sharp and drastic increase in social II discrimination"" and will swiftly eliminate most if not all of the multicultural- egalitarian life style experiments so close to the heart of left libertarians. In other words, libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives."" ""Families, authority, communities, and social ranks are the empirical-sociological concretization of the abstract philosophical- praxeological categories and concepts of property, production, exchange, and contract. Property and property relations do not exist apart from families and kinship relations. The latter shape and determine the specific form and configuration of property and property relations, while they are at the same time constrained by the universal and eternal laws of scarcity and property. In fact, as we have already seen, families considered normal by conservative standards are household families, and the family disintegration and moral and cultural decay which contemporary conservatives deplore is largely the result of the erosion and destruction of households (estates) as the economic basis of families by the modem welfare state.""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1513259311 153250575,153268229,2017-12-14 13:49:46,">>153268045 ""What it means, and possibly only can mean, is this: Conservative refers to someone who believes in the existence of a natural order, a natural state of affairs which corresponds to the nature of things: of nature and man. This natural order is and can be disturbed by accidents and anomalies: by earthquakes and hurricanes, diseases, pests, monsters and beasts, by two-headed horses or fourlegged humans, cripples and idiots, and by war, conquest and tyranny. But it is not difficult to distinguish the normal from the anomaly, the essential from the accidental. A little bit of abstraction removes all the clutter and enables nearly everyone to ""see"" what is and what is not natural and in accordance with the nature of things. Moreover, the natural is at the same time the most enduring state of affairs. The natural order is ancient and forever the same (only anomalies and accidents undergo change), hence, it can be recognized by us everywhere and at all times. Conservative refers to someone who recognizes the old and natural through the ""noise"" of anomalies and accidents and who defends, supports, and helps to preserve it against the temporary and anomalous. Within the realm of the humanities, including the social sciences, a conservative recognizes families (fathers, mothers, children, grandchildren) and households based on private property and in cooperation with a community of other households as the most fundamental, natural, essential, ancient, and indispensable social units. Moreover, the family household also represents the model of the social order at large ...",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1513259386 153250575,153268279,2017-12-14 13:50:12,">>153268229 ""... Just as a hierarchical order exists in a family, so is there a hierarchical order within a community of families-of apprentices, servants, and masters, vassals, knights, lords, overlords, and even kings-tied together by an elaborate and intricate system of kinship relations; and of children, parents, priests, bishops, cardinals, patriarchs or popes, and finally the transcendent God. Of the two layers of authority, the earthly physical power of parents, lords, and kings is naturally subordinate and subject to control by the ultimate spiritual-intellectual authority of fathers, priests, bishops, and ultimately God.""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1513259412 153250575,153268504,2017-12-14 13:51:34,">>153264385 To be fair Marx is literally advanced economics mate",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1513259494 153377450,153377450,2017-12-15 11:12:12,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,christmashoppe.png,I4H+0Qpas7mXxazNC8ZjNA==,,,1513336332 153377450,153378514,2017-12-15 11:24:57,">>153377450 am I welcome here? or do you guys consider everything besides AnCap ""statist appeasement""? link to quiz if anyone's interested http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=polphil",,Anonymous,muh free market.png,AMNXEceoVRNikY45yytjyg==,PT,,1513337097 153377450,153380128,2017-12-15 11:44:33,">>153378514 Anyone who's well into the purple quadrant shares our understanding of freedom and corresponding desire for it, we just have different ideas on how to bring it about. You have more reservations about the state than you do about freedom, so you're fine by me.",,Anonymous,sandrattler.png,AElYgJYPasriUjkCLFPmBw==,US,,1513338273 153377450,153380198,2017-12-15 11:45:24,"David Friedman>Murray Rothbard Fite me",,Anonymous,,,,,1513338324 153377450,153381522,2017-12-15 12:01:29,Freedom bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1513339289 153377450,153381778,2017-12-15 12:04:38,Minarchy is the prefered state as a state is inevitable anyways best make it one a small and primitive as possible,,Anonymous,,,,,1513339478 153377450,153383222,2017-12-15 12:21:43,">>153381778 *Anarchy is the preferred state otherwise, the rest is pretty much right",,Anonymous,,,,,1513340503 153377450,153383847,2017-12-15 12:28:58,"Do you agree with Varg? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eilZTgurr4",,Anonymous,1499721402508.jpg,nCvgACkro/l+h4Rrji/ASw==,US,,1513340938 153508081,153508081,2017-12-16 15:08:45,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1513191197093.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1513436925 153508081,153508313,2017-12-16 15:11:09,Bump for Hoppe,,Anonymous,1509899112649.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1513437069 153508081,153508423,2017-12-16 15:12:19,Heil Hans Herman Hoppe!,,Anonymous,hoppeflagtransparent.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,,,1513437139 153508081,153508479,2017-12-16 15:12:55,,,Anonymous,1496982574467.png,XFHLWtSk7F2Y35FG8cpyIg==,,,1513437175 153508081,153508530,2017-12-16 15:13:27,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM The Truth about Libertarianism and Open Borders",,Anonymous,1500641496140.jpg,X8AVUVnEF6EU5aVabBhp6w==,,,1513437207 153508081,153508579,2017-12-16 15:13:59,">>153508423 Come now be festive",,Anonymous,christmashoppe.png,I4H+0Qpas7mXxazNC8ZjNA==,,,1513437239 153508081,153508613,2017-12-16 15:14:16,">>153508530 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U The Logical Conclusion of Libertarianism - Violence is Necessary",,Anonymous,crushwallpaper.png,HQl3OeUH7jJVktLD9nJrwA==,,,1513437256 153508081,153508672,2017-12-16 15:14:52,">>153508081 So he wants to gas commies?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513437292 153508081,153508700,2017-12-16 15:15:06,Hoppe Edition?,,Anonymous,costimpliedbychoice(1).png,EOipyeLmwdLNJwFcpHLhlg==,,,1513437306 153508081,153508712,2017-12-16 15:15:11,>>153508530,,Anonymous,1513191262136.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,,,1513437311 153508081,153508832,2017-12-16 15:16:23,>in my freedom-loving society you can only be free to act according to these values or these values and in this way,,Anonymous,1509631748674.jpg,4C5D4BIipd0Sos4ty/Dacg==,CA,,1513437383 153508081,153508849,2017-12-16 15:16:31,"THIS IS A JEWISH THREAD. JEWS TRIED TO KEEP US AT THE ""RON PAUL PHASE THEY WANT TO KEEP US HERE LIBERTARIANISM IS A MEME YOU MUST GO FURTHER DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE LOLBERTARDS ALLOW SUBVERSION! LOLBERTARDS WANT JEWS MORE POWER U S E F U L IDIOTS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513437391 153508081,153508895,2017-12-16 15:16:56,">>153508700 HOPPE EDITION!!",,Anonymous,ownershipmustbeestablished3.png,upJL211PV06GsClBPJ7DYw==,,,1513437416 153508081,153508992,2017-12-16 15:18:00,">>153508672 >>153508700 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y3iOFfYn2I Yes sir, communists can't engage in rational argumentative discussion over property claims - they can't form mutually binding agreements over rules of conduct concerning scarce resources (they can't into property). Ethical copter.",,Anonymous,bodyandtimescarcity(2).png,Y5uSyOgcQL6XoakCpEKHig==,,,1513437480 153508081,153509067,2017-12-16 15:18:51,">>153508895 Nigger there's a reason theyve got a 1, 2, and 3 at the end.",,Anonymous,mcveighdisappointed.jpg,Lx/PkM2xPE9hUKX9pEyC5A==,,,1513437531 153508081,153509088,2017-12-16 15:19:09,">>153508672 Absolutely",,Anonymous,hoppe_free_good_vs_pest_vs_malicious_intent.png,nlOd0aD96iDkbfLfHX4/lA==,,,1513437549 153508081,153509147,2017-12-16 15:19:53,"Right-libertarianism (Constitutionalism, individualism, or whatever permutation you wish) is only compatible without shitskins.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513437593 153508081,153509156,2017-12-16 15:19:58,">>153508832 What are you trying to say here?",,Anonymous,tolerancercausesrot(hoppe).jpg,K+VaO87hUNMhbjwz+q50AQ==,,,1513437598 153508081,153509198,2017-12-16 15:20:23,"I wish someone could give me even one great reason not to be libertarian-right. No one has so much given me evidence of personal, value-based hypocrisy from my end. It's so obviously the way to be.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513437623 153508081,153509211,2017-12-16 15:20:31,">>153508081 Forever Voluntary. Hail Hoppe!",,Anonymous,c7abac981e83d05ab7c79c35b26d7a41.png,x6usmB6D0Fq3x5w1sm16QQ==,US,,1513437631 153508081,153509239,2017-12-16 15:20:52,">>153509147 Agreed, this is why they must be excluded and left to starve without the state teat Relevant pic",,Anonymous,yourelyonwhitemen(hoppe).jpg,JYReLHTUb4e5S4baAD5KRQ==,,,1513437652 153508081,153509388,2017-12-16 15:22:32,">>153509147 >>153509239 Right-libertarianism is based on values. There are shitskins who can share those values. If you mean by large and far, cultures that bear shitskin populaces wouldn't be compatible, yes.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513437752 153508081,153509533,2017-12-16 15:24:14,">>153509156 That you're one daft cunt.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513437854 153508081,153509651,2017-12-16 15:25:21,">>153509388 Right-libertarianism has something of a minimum IQ.",,Anonymous,looktowardthefuture.png,RIc/rMRUk4CH4O8GRYLEYg==,,,1513437921 153508081,153509719,2017-12-16 15:26:06,">>153509533 I actually didn't understand your sentence, could you please try rephrasing?",,Anonymous,ancappango4.png,i/8ruKIkfD7PZotd6X1ekA==,,,1513437966 153508081,153509867,2017-12-16 15:27:38,"If the society decides to fall, will you be willing to force it to survive? Will you sacrifice the principle in order to establishing the nap world order even if it breaks NAP towards the current global leviathan?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1513438058 153508081,153509896,2017-12-16 15:28:00,">>153508081 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD6efV3dEPs White men contributed the most to humanity",,Anonymous,whitepowercantwell.png,15LwdJYUUGB2bBTESww9sg==,,,1513438080 153508081,153510289,2017-12-16 15:32:12,">>153509651 Are you or are you not making the contention it is impossible for an individual shitskin to have values in strict accordance of the libertarian-right?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513438332 153508081,153510746,2017-12-16 15:36:50,">>153510289 It's not impossible, but so rare that it's not worth consideration. It is entirely possible and within ethics for whites to reject all non-whites from their property. Shitskins libertarians wont make or break us.",,Anonymous,kk says.png,QsRVuQg6PwwA8zRDNeg6qA==,,,1513438610 153508081,153511264,2017-12-16 15:42:25,">>153510746 >It is entirely possible and within ethics for whites to reject all non-whites from their property. Correct >Shitskins libertarians wont make or break us It's just weird to read things like this. As someone who would want my value-based system to capture legislative power and more, makes more sense to champion any and every individual who genuinely believes in it too, as it is an individual-based value system.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1513438945 153508081,153513290,2017-12-16 16:05:31,">>153509147 That's a ""sacrifice"" anyone on this board would be more than willing to make.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513440331 153508081,153513360,2017-12-16 16:06:17,">>153509211 Bogpill me on this Hoppe character. Is he any good?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513440377 153508081,153514076,2017-12-16 16:14:21,">>153513360 see >>153509896",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513440861 153508081,153514481,2017-12-16 16:19:14,">>153513360 I'll refer you to his speech on the alt-right and let that speak for its self https://youtu.be/TICdCM4j7x8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513441154 153508081,153514567,2017-12-16 16:20:18,">>153514076 That accent is thicc holy kek but lemme listen a bit That actually makes a lot of sense. Can you recommend me any literature? I had a falling out with normie libertarians after my circle of friends had gone full commie.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513441218 153508081,153514952,2017-12-16 16:24:47,">>153514567 https://mises.org/library/democracy-god-failed-1 His book that I'm currently reading with scathing criticism of democracy, communism, and leftism in general.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513441487 153508081,153515364,2017-12-16 16:29:44,">>153514952 >Mises Wasn't he a Jew?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513441784 153508081,153515532,2017-12-16 16:31:29,">>153515364 Isn't von Mises a Jewish name?",,Anonymous,bsa.jpg,ZC4luTv8xzj/kyaaRiWaIQ==,,,1513441889 153508081,153516295,2017-12-16 16:40:12,">>153515364 >Hey guys, this JEW says I should drink water and exercise to be healthy. Fuck listening to JEWS. Im fucking with you m8 but seriously check out things thoroughly",,Anonymous,natsocjew.png,Q87AsybOFM/8E9xzjNJjYQ==,,,1513442412 153508081,153519095,2017-12-16 17:09:51,">>153516295 Whatever, I'll give it a read. This better be good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513444191 153508081,153519421,2017-12-16 17:13:20,">>153508081 Why are you such a stupid piece of shit OP?",,Anonymous,lhm1jnikz2my.jpg,hoqwoKtLvQPQiEG9D2/2Uw==,US,,1513444400 153508081,153520385,2017-12-16 17:22:54,,,Anonymous,unknown.png,YXnQvS3Ujlk6XmeTY7UG3Q==,,,1513444974 153508081,153521234,2017-12-16 17:31:40,>>153519421,,TPM,1492548195893.png,siCy/G146TpUAgpJiqEvCg==,,,1513445500 153508081,153523448,2017-12-16 17:54:28,">>153519095 Heil Hoppe!",,Anonymous,crushantifa.jpg,Y9QyMvVTGAf467BJ4nvRUw==,,,1513446868 153508081,153523534,2017-12-16 17:55:17,Emergency bump initiated.,,Anonymous,,,,,1513446917 153508081,153523608,2017-12-16 17:55:55,">>153523534 DON'T LET IT DIE LADS",,Anonymous,ancappango1.png,9AGc4J1FR9ttu1cBwYk68w==,,,1513446955 153508081,153523695,2017-12-16 17:56:46,"What do you anarcho-faggots not understand? You can't sustain a white population without borders. No state, no borders. Why are you all so retarded? Your stupid theory could literally never work.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513447006 153508081,153523844,2017-12-16 17:58:12,bumps!,,TPM,,,,,1513447092 153508081,153523958,2017-12-16 17:59:25,">>153523695 Let me direct you towards >>153508530 EXCLUDED AND X P E L L E D",,Anonymous,wordcopter.png,zMbuOtW/Xaoks/HNApbaBg==,,,1513447165 153508081,153524006,2017-12-16 17:59:54,>>153523695,,Anonymous,5413213168.png,CxZve5Z9Bk7yEoeCnC21jA==,US,,1513447194 153508081,153524166,2017-12-16 18:01:33,">>153509533 >>153509388 >>153509211 >>153509088 >>153508700 WITNESSED",,BLORK SUPREME,Blork em.png,WLQ5xwqDrxgvVNnR0c0icg==,,,1513447293 153508081,153524288,2017-12-16 18:02:53,,,Anonymous,Dignity.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,,,1513447373 153508081,153524304,2017-12-16 18:03:11,,,Anonymous,The Family_Full.png,CBwhYh4z7kc8lqDhV7HmLw==,,,1513447391 153508081,153524364,2017-12-16 18:03:46,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1513447426 153508081,153524365,2017-12-16 18:03:48,">>153523695 >>153519421",,BLORK SUPREME,1507869553150.jpg,aJ32yOrzazIxcQKjo5tFFA==,,,1513447428 153508081,153524393,2017-12-16 18:04:09,">>153524166 >>153524006",,Anonymous,youwillhavetoberemoved.png,DTscRrnkm5b4AktLnFSnhg==,,,1513447449 153508081,153524403,2017-12-16 18:04:16,">>153523958 So you're opposed to the existence of the state, but you recognize that the state should protect borders, defend property, maintain roads, etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513447456 153508081,153524456,2017-12-16 18:04:53,>>153513360,,BLORK SUPREME,blorkpill.png,v8nHcIsb2Nm3y3RZS8YMZw==,,,1513447493 153508081,153524608,2017-12-16 18:06:23,Black and Gold fore'er more.,,Anonymous,Ancap Flag Gun 3.png,Wlqh2fM2afFv2pVsP3rzDA==,,,1513447583 153508081,153524778,2017-12-16 18:08:14,">>153524403 read this",,TPM,private property open borders.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1513447694 153508081,153524807,2017-12-16 18:08:28,">>153524403 Until those functions are privatized, yes.the state should enforce border controls. It is a far greater violation of the non aggression principle to welcome any scum into the nation, subsidies their breeding, and force property owners not to discriminate as they see fit and to enforce such tyranny with the proprietors tax dollars than it is for the state to simply exclude those people in the first place. THIS1",,Anonymous,b9a03392f39ca38c20c116b69359319e.jpg,F6fWqrg3/PPnd422sEIg2A==,,,1513447708 153508081,153524839,2017-12-16 18:08:49,">>153524403 How did you possible arrive at that conclusion? The state is not necessary for scum to repelled from society, for property to be defended, or for roads to be maintained. As far as the roads things, the state has less incentive to actually maintain them since there's no threat of failure or going bankrupt if they have shitty roads. The cops aren't your friend, people defend themselves all the time, borders are implied by private property (if the US were all privatized and free association a possibility, conservative areas would form which could actually repel all the faggots and mexicans that they dont want, rather than be forced to share 'public' spaces with them). Saying the state protects the people from rights violations is like saying the mafia protects its neighborhood from other gangs. It doesn't protect shit, it just says that its the only one who can rape your ass, and people like you nod along to that and say ""Thank God it isn't someone else raping me!""",,Anonymous,ancapatcomputer.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,,,1513447729 153508081,153524847,2017-12-16 18:08:53,,,BLORK SUPREME,image2.jpg,mSecbcJPpI56tA79X/Gm+g==,,,1513447733 153508081,153524898,2017-12-16 18:09:24,,,BLORK SUPREME,image.png,GraAtFq6ish0Gqcj2KpM+A==,,,1513447764 153508081,153524927,2017-12-16 18:09:40,">>153524608 We /aesthetic/ now",,Anonymous,snex.png,rSH7J3vX6aHaVB7XmW52uA==,,,1513447780 153508081,153524932,2017-12-16 18:09:43,>>153508081,,BLORK SUPREME,graybfairy.png,nfcwHo0rgnrI2CVItpiMqw==,,,1513447783 153508081,153524967,2017-12-16 18:10:02,,,BLORK SUPREME,image.jpg,ltc49B2w1iUT0R6Lpej9Kg==,,,1513447802 153508081,153525035,2017-12-16 18:10:46,">>153524847 >>153524898",,Anonymous,removeyourself.png,rM9LtNLIDaRqWNQB8V0GoQ==,,,1513447846 153508081,153525054,2017-12-16 18:10:56,">>153524927 Hell yeah we are.",,Anonymous,Ancap Flag Gun.png,D9ikNG520Gy30il4S2DOVQ==,,,1513447856 153508081,153525103,2017-12-16 18:11:30,">>153524839 If you need the state to keep the borders closed and protect your property against communists and niggers (which you do), how are you going to abolish the state without making yourself vulnerable to foreign invasion?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513447890 153508081,153525141,2017-12-16 18:11:58,">>153524932 >>153524967 Mods have forsaken us",,Anonymous,welfarecausesculturerot(hoppe).jpg,EJJwiEa46FHahcTtC8gHjg==,,,1513447918 153508081,153525284,2017-12-16 18:13:21,,,BLORK SUPREME,1507869460503.png,SvENo9Fd+YB0ECIS6a23ww==,,,1513448001 153508081,153525346,2017-12-16 18:14:03,,,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,,,1513448043 153508081,153525350,2017-12-16 18:14:05,">>153525103 You don't need the state to do that. Do state guns have some magic power Im unaware of that would make them better than individual's with the same weapons/training? Do people's desire to defend their home/join militias just disappear if they're not being taxed? How does any smaller territory defend itself from larger territories? The question of defense from foreign invasion is as much a question for states.",,Anonymous,confedgadsden.png,/67otGrSux8H35UBXrALnw==,,,1513448045 153508081,153525382,2017-12-16 18:14:27,>>153525284,,Anonymous,ancapstudies.jpg,7HU8QWOp/+CHcPyJHni3Jw==,,,1513448067 153508081,153525389,2017-12-16 18:14:33,,,Anonymous,FLAGSDEN.png,GJUftJ7a2p8PP1WYr/Oc8A==,,,1513448073 153508081,153525408,2017-12-16 18:14:48,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,Juan_Peron_con_banda_de_presidente.jpg,uzYBU9yIO/UtPLtCtkjpPw==,NL,,1513448088 153508081,153525519,2017-12-16 18:15:56,">>153525350 Then how do you get rid of the state without the transition inviting foreign invasion and increased crime?",,Anonymous,,,,,1513448156 153508081,153525564,2017-12-16 18:16:24,"No more commie guns on our flags, lads! Time for the AR-15 to take the AK's place as the symbol of right-wing Liber/aryan/ism!",,Anonymous,Ancap AR-15 3 alt.png,373xazuxFO57zRlWDS2mrQ==,,,1513448184 153508081,153525633,2017-12-16 18:17:05,">>153525519 Arms",,Anonymous,mcveighapproval.jpg,ujdOwajgCKEQZ/Z+WQitxw==,,,1513448225 153508081,153525934,2017-12-16 18:20:34,BLORKS WILL RUN THIS BOARD,,BLORK SUPREME,blork.png,28UamCkJFZMlCUJZzNqqFg==,,,1513448434 153508081,153525949,2017-12-16 18:20:40,"I have stepped away from the label of libertarian-ism because it carries such a stigma with it. I prefer alt lite philosophy because while Libertarian-ism is great overall, some things need to be protected that step beyond the bounds of libertarian-ism. A combination of identitarian and libertarian-ism is where it is at. There is no denying that shitskins, wetbacks, arabs, and other minority cancer ultimately support far left candidates. When cease being the controlling and deciding factor in every election, any chance of protecting our liberties is gone. That and letting foreign powers replace industry in your country because they will always be able to provide it cheaper due to devaluing their currency is just an overall bad idea. There has to be a level of nationalism tied to libertarian philosophy. Thomas Jefferson promoted the idea of less centralized power. If you let teh globalists replace nationalism you also lose your liberties. Without a functioning economy where your nation is capable of exceptional levels of manufacturing, you lose out. Other than that, I am generally ok with decriminalizing pot and a lot of the other shit libertarians agree with. But abortion clearly violates the non-aggression principle. I don't talk about libertarian crap very much because most of these fags are just incapable of holding a conversation without shitting a brick",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513448440 153508081,153525973,2017-12-16 18:20:55,">>153525408 welcome fascist answer something for me, what is the difference from reactionary and revolutionary, how is fascism revolutionary when it is and always was a reaction to communism",,TPM,state vs degeneracy.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1513448455 153508081,153526472,2017-12-16 18:26:40,">>153525973 does me reacting a funny cat video make a reactionary? also that quote is pretty dumb >the proletariat is dumb and degenerate true >therefore we must not unify under the state but continue living our lives devoid of meaning",,Anonymous,evola.jpg,dzCOB9wBopjxb9Hsuz4LOA==,NL,,1513448800 153508081,153526603,2017-12-16 18:28:03,">>153525949 You're a right-wing libertarian m8, don't let them ruin more of our language than they already have.",,Anonymous,okhandwaifu.png,uj4pOKsqG8epu2Ub4Lo8DQ==,,,1513448883 153508081,153526698,2017-12-16 18:28:55,">>153526603 >right-wing libertarian",,Anonymous,1512960086516.jpg,MMJxD4Vo4iudvj3rzpJbfw==,NL,,1513448935 153508081,153527044,2017-12-16 18:32:52,>>153526698,,Anonymous,broyourelibertarian.png,sVPHGk4CnSqngQJS3HK9tg==,,,1513449172 153508081,153527410,2017-12-16 18:36:31,">>153526472 does seeing the state needs to go make me a reactionary? the definition becomes rather blurry then, a reason i cannot take fascism seriously is this half baked thought foundation >the proletariat is dumb and degenerate that is why we should rip out the safety net of the state, make them stand tall. the only thing the state gives is a false sense of security for the lemmings. >therefore we must not unify under the state but continue living our lives devoid of meaning now that's implying that the state can give meaning, and if the state could 'give' meaning, then where does the state get it? only in a communism can the state claim to make anything, as they own everything. so in a fascism where do they get this meaning? from the people. so you can say that the state, even a fascism does not give meaning, but only reassigns meaning by first taking it from those that had meaning",,TPM,,,,,1513449391 153508081,153528200,2017-12-16 18:44:45,Friendly reminder that the USA would've been AnCap if the idea was known back then.,,Anonymous,Murica.jpg,dZoxGNHUISFlLfNiZWryvw==,,,1513449885 153508081,153528760,2017-12-16 18:50:25,">>153527410 >does seeing the state needs to go make me a reactionary? translation to english please >a reason i cannot take fascism seriously is this half baked thought foundation fascism really has nothing to do with the entire definition >make them stand tall living only for your own fleeting pleasure is the exact opposite of ""standing tall"" >now that's implying that the state can give meaning, and if the state could 'give' meaning yes im implying that >communism >state n-nani? >from the people no how did you come to this conclusion? what the people want is totally irrelevant. the ""meaning"" is selflesness for a purpose far greater than the live of an individual, and only the totalitarian state can steer the people in a certain direction of reactionary politics >so you can say that the state, even a fascism does not give meaning, but only reassigns meaning by first taking it from those that had meaning yea whatever, i cant be bothered to decipher this centance this late",,Anonymous,1506572414050.png,1BZulGrx283m/gsVwwPZPQ==,NL,,1513450225 153508081,153528977,2017-12-16 18:52:36,">>153528200 friendly reminder that it would've stayed ancap if not for corporations wanting a local monopoly, and a certain founding father who was the son of (((scottish banker))) and had a jewish tutor didn't prob/action/solution our early gov",,TPM,,,,,1513450356 153508081,153530177,2017-12-16 19:04:01,">>153528760 If taking life seriously is what Fascism embodies, then fuck, we're all Fascists.",,Anonymous,readabooknigger.jpg,bu7Zud2EfsR0GQpWBbP8nw==,,,1513451041 153508081,153531307,2017-12-16 19:15:55,">>153528760 if seeing something needs to be done makes you a reactionary, then everyone is, especially the revolutionaries. >fascism really has nothing to do with the entire definition its the logic from which you sprout more logic, its rather important >living only for your own fleeting pleasure is the exact opposite of ""standing tall"" fleeting pleasure can only be gotten in presence of safety, in the absence of the illusion of security people would have to live for their community or quickly die off >communism >state don't play dumb, you know what i mean >no how did you come to this conclusion? fascism itself relies on the people's customs and institutions to become suited to the people this is what separates you from marxism right? so therefore you get your culture from and meaning from the people after all what is the meaning of the fascist state if not the stewardship of the people, people that have their own customs and traditions, and meaning. you just impose your system around that. > what the people want is totally irrelevant. the ""meaning"" is selflessness for a purpose far greater than the live of an individual, so read greek? you pretend that evola is the only avenue of this thought process >and only the totalitarian state can steer the people in a certain direction of reactionary politics i thought you were revolutionary? with reaction being right wing any place a fascism settles in, all it does is impose the home culture on the people. while stripping away the real home culture of the regions in lieu of the 'state' culture, that is just a bastardized version of the real culture >yea whatever, i cant be bothered to decipher this centance this late states do not make meaning, the people do, the fascism is the perfect system to prove it, as i said above, it take the pre-existing national culture, made by the citizens, and set up its rules around it, that is why italian fascism, and many other flavors exist. because fascism is just a foundation",,TPM,Americans creed.jpg,tb8iqHfjARAvdPI8WeMfUw==,,,1513451755 153508081,153532577,2017-12-16 19:29:33,"RELEVANT VIDEOS: INTRO LEVEL(bitbutter) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs George Ought to Help >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s You Can Always Leave >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFbYM2EDz40 Edgar the Exploiter >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5PwQKW62to Would You Trust This Corporation? SHORT >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Open Borders (Cantwell) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion (Cantwell) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3XbxWwWHLw Do You Hate the State? (Rothbard, read by Cantwell) 10 minutes LECTURES(Hoppe) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c What Must Be Done [to create a libertarian revolution] >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4 Realistic Libertarianism as Right-Libertarianism >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TICdCM4j7x8 Libertarianism and the ""Alt-Right""",,Anonymous,lrggentransparent.png,mPx7QfYUsYBlR6XGjgQKyw==,,,1513452573 153508081,153532899,2017-12-16 19:33:09,">>153528200 This thread rules",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513452789 153508081,153533004,2017-12-16 19:34:21,">>153528760 Holy God, he just summed up what I always thought",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513452861 153508081,153533897,2017-12-16 19:45:06,">>153533004 that is because you are an american",,TPM,,,,,1513453506 153508081,153534689,2017-12-16 19:53:49,">>153533897 Truly America is rising back to our Glory",,Anonymous,,,US,,1513454029 153663424,153663424,2017-12-17 22:58:22,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,Dignity.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,,,1513551502 153663424,153663541,2017-12-17 22:59:29,,,Anonymous,The Family.png,BU6kI/EGJ2edHDzsLCe7qg==,,,1513551569 153663424,153663560,2017-12-17 22:59:46,lolis? y/n?,,Anonymous,,,,,1513551586 153663424,153663561,2017-12-17 22:59:46,,,Anonymous,FreeToDoRight.png,Okh0nz2vw2aJ49Le7dWQeg==,,,1513551586 153663424,153663616,2017-12-17 23:00:19,">>153663560 nah",,Anonymous,,,,,1513551619 153663424,153663678,2017-12-17 23:00:57,">>153663560 Get out of here you sick faggot.",,Anonymous,DontFukWithDis2.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,,,1513551657 153663424,153663804,2017-12-17 23:02:29,"INTRO LEVEL(bitbutter) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs George Ought to Help >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s You Can Always Leave >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFbYM2EDz40 Edgar the Exploiter >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5PwQKW62to Would You Trust This Corporation? SHORT >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Open Borders (Cantwell) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion (Cantwell) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3XbxWwWHLw Do You Hate the State? (Rothbard, read by Cantwell) 10 minutes LECTURES(Hoppe) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c What Must Be Done [to create a libertarian revolution] >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO68Kvb9fD4 Realistic Libertarianism as Right-Libertarianism >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TICdCM4j7x8 Libertarianism and the ""Alt-Right""",,Anonymous,lrggentransparent.png,mPx7QfYUsYBlR6XGjgQKyw==,,,1513551749 153663424,153663915,2017-12-17 23:03:57,">>153663678 Lol u know you like it xD",,Anonymous,800px-HRH_Prince_Michael_of_Kent_62_Allan_Warren.jpg,0EEjGo0JYRMvzbSRdsBT8g==,,,1513551837 153663424,153663961,2017-12-17 23:04:24,">>153663560 Here's your loli you degenerate fuck",,Anonymous,1513463500824.png,siCy/G146TpUAgpJiqEvCg==,,,1513551864 153663424,153664047,2017-12-17 23:05:15,"Friendly reminder that the USA would have been ancap if it were a more known idea. God bless America.",,Anonymous,Murica.jpg,dZoxGNHUISFlLfNiZWryvw==,,,1513551915 153663424,153664125,2017-12-17 23:06:09,,,Anonymous,misc (9).png,tr1x+FeahS7m1fth08IJrg==,,,1513551969 153663424,153664175,2017-12-17 23:06:38,">>153663915 Exclusion of degenerates is necessary",,Anonymous,exclusionnecessarytoavoiddecay(hoppe).jpg,NdF/pQVPzktuDN+2H1YaEw==,,,1513551998 153663424,153664181,2017-12-17 23:06:41,">>153663961 haha thanks x3",,Anonymous,.jpg,bIm38qBjZ7IeisXWGvUH5g==,,,1513552001 153663424,153664221,2017-12-17 23:07:07,">>153663424 GIVE ME ROAD TOLLS OR GIVE ME DEATH! Chile did nothing wrong.",,Anonymous,pino.jpg,aQExX3bWdFC/0i0KpbOTog==,PL,,1513552027 153663424,153664355,2017-12-17 23:08:36,">>153664175 I get to do what I want in the anarchy, hoppe is a fascist lol",,Anonymous,333px-Edward_Gibbon_by_Henry_Walton_cleaned.jpg,wNticxARGt7OSy7y6VHUdQ==,,,1513552116 153663424,153664731,2017-12-17 23:12:49,">>153664355 You're a very confused communist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513552369 153663424,153664897,2017-12-17 23:14:33,">>153664731 I'm an ancap idiot, go back to stormfront we don't like fascists in libertarian lands.",,Anonymous,yes1.jpg,JBa/bDNk2hVB/m0EzlT++w==,,,1513552473 153663424,153664919,2017-12-17 23:14:45,">>153664221 Kek",,Anonymous,1513194565390.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,,,1513552485 153663424,153665015,2017-12-17 23:15:50,">>153664897 >>>153664919",,Anonymous,1513466883036.png,uj4pOKsqG8epu2Ub4Lo8DQ==,,,1513552550 153663424,153665096,2017-12-17 23:16:43,">>153664897 Physically remove yourself.",,Anonymous,Dyktator.jpg,y/jkJHcDXw13UT/ZvlL4kQ==,PL,,1513552603 153663424,153665489,2017-12-17 23:21:27,">>153665096 fuck poles",,Anonymous,,,,,1513552887 153663424,153665654,2017-12-17 23:23:21,">>153664897 You're a pedophile who would be dragged into the streets and shot if you ever as much looked at someones child.",,Anonymous,,,,,1513553001 153663424,153666192,2017-12-17 23:29:24,,,Anonymous,image.png,EYeLwUW+3Ds4pH8hCByrDQ==,,,1513553364 153663424,153667255,2017-12-17 23:41:13,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1513554073 153663424,153667382,2017-12-17 23:42:39,">>153666192 Do you have the ""You're a libertarian, you can't care about morals"" one?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1513554159 153663424,153667631,2017-12-17 23:45:18,">>153667382 sure do.",,Anonymous,unknown.png,sVPHGk4CnSqngQJS3HK9tg==,,,1513554318 153663424,153668689,2017-12-17 23:57:15,"inb4 that dutch guy that always posts >libertarian >right",,Anonymous,18194117_200040120512200_3698426433552937795_n.jpg,U1g2TOFXlrchGjjTrAPPRQ==,US,,1513555035 153663424,153669111,2017-12-18 00:02:10,">>153668689 Top kek, so to speak.",,Anonymous,pino2.png,lAV7g9WWjKoJOskLD3X56w==,PL,,1513555330 153663424,153669835,2017-12-18 00:11:42,"http://archive.is/BSKoC >Philly city council just banned bulletproof glass Can we get to overthrowing the government now, lads?",,Anonymous,Hoppe-ing Mad.png,G5RgfPpG8grs2gvUnDU//w==,US,,1513555902 153663424,153670023,2017-12-18 00:14:18,">>153669835 Give it 20 more years, when gen z gets old. 50 years and it will be violent self-defense action on top of violent self-defense action.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1513556058 154099338,154099338,2017-12-21 18:33:41,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - The Right Path Edition,Anonymous,15731740_1211542562247394_3781727334343663555_o.jpg,kOekY48LgWJheLGEsWd9gg==,,,1513881221 154099338,154099471,2017-12-21 18:35:06,">>154099338 Bump",,Anonymous,wCIpgNA.jpg,7HU8QWOp/+CHcPyJHni3Jw==,,,1513881306 154099338,154099543,2017-12-21 18:35:47,>>154099338,,Anonymous,1509679772222.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1513881347 154099338,154099609,2017-12-21 18:36:25,Libertarianism is not about open borders or multiculturalism,,Anonymous,1509746420166.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1513881385 154099338,154099899,2017-12-21 18:39:33,">>154099338 Remeber to like Hoppean Snake Memes on Facebook and Subscribe to his YouTube Channel",,Anonymous,15380477_1189448024456848_5489153917308881745_n.jpg,ljDLa2zi0SPcffyuXxlC9w==,,,1513881573 154099338,154100121,2017-12-21 18:41:43,">>154099338 Be what is necessary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyQe4P2O-Vc",,Anonymous,19190863_2034353416786458_490010353_n.png,VKgx17Fw8/eevsAGi/bWoA==,,,1513881703 154099338,154100207,2017-12-21 18:42:32,,,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1513881752 154099338,154100665,2017-12-21 18:47:43,nth for Korwinism,,Anonymous,Libertarian Right.png,goepP1kppUhqzEh5CMj4Dw==,FR,,1513882063 154459565,154459565,2017-12-25 10:21:45,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - CHRISTMAS EDITION This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads Got these two glorious banners plus 3.25 lbs of gummy worms... wtf mom",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - CHRISTMAS EDITION,Anonymous,Message_1514214941148.jpg,bz0BiqapIeu97kHLyNIv1w==,,,1514197305 154459565,154461467,2017-12-25 10:50:37,Bump,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-30-12.13.41.jpg,KWL1SmgmvwsNxUeCLbcgyA==,US,,1514199037 154459565,154461586,2017-12-25 10:52:22,Aesthetics?,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1514199142 154459565,154463482,2017-12-25 11:19:57,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-05-01.24.55.png,O76DP1t23pzLZHGMuJrCyA==,US,,1514200797 154962771,154962771,2017-12-30 09:56:40,"/lrg/ is a general made for the discussion of the libertarian right and libertarian right accessories. Fuck the commies. Question to start off: Is there much of a difference between agorist and anarcho capitalism?",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,sketch-1514645450932.png,MLnXz0cnU0MzklF4SWZbAQ==,GB,,1514627800 154962771,154964057,2017-12-30 10:17:21,"Oy, what political survey is that, could you post a link to it please.",,Anonymous,snek.gif,ufUyAuuCSdPNNfcXgs29jA==,CA,,1514629041 154962771,154964671,2017-12-30 10:26:14,">>154964057 >Political survey Nah. It's just a three axis political spectrum I got off Google images. I don't remember there being a survey for it.",,Anonymous,tumblr_o3ht9jNmmF1v53o2zo1_500.gif,4z4HubinfOIZxYF1ReNZKw==,GB,,1514629574 154962771,154966444,2017-12-30 10:52:09,">>154962771 Explain how egoism isn't the only coherent form of individualism.",,Anonymous,1462740922336.png,+T76fj9taWDcBmd4w9tjBQ==,,,1514631129 155778064,155778064,2018-01-06 14:06:38,"Here's a real debate of ideas for yall Molyneux vs Kokesh on immigration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ3Mqp5bQsg",LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL /LRG/ Debate Edition,Anonymous,1498941632413.png,3X3TbHZlNjDf6SUBt6DkYQ==,,,1515247598 155778064,155778355,2018-01-06 14:09:37,">>155778064 /lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515247777 155778064,155778920,2018-01-06 14:15:44,,,Anonymous,21752146_1457637594304555_2373051583436387254_n.png,NEIxQF/Y72MDprYBh7f4eQ==,,,1515248144 155924555,155924555,2018-01-07 19:31:49,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,TPM,1492682883748.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,,,1515353509 155924555,155924940,2018-01-07 19:35:52,"Like property? Know about the JQ? Hate government? join the discord and have fun!",,TPM,1492855701192.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,,,1515353752 155924555,155925280,2018-01-07 19:39:51,">>155924555 Is ethnolibertarianism a contradiction?",,Anonymous,8CEADCBD-5959-45DF-B046-CB0A9963FB01.png,Ps3y9h0h0Upje3rCY87e+A==,,,1515353991 155924555,155925480,2018-01-07 19:41:46,Anti white dissidents will be hung on DOTR,,Anonymous,1513660232823.jpg,jdn3YztdduYtCJaXyGOkEQ==,US,,1515354106 155924555,155925496,2018-01-07 19:41:53,>>155924555,,Anonymous,1515365145733.png,pwy2EXsqhCPBFb9KxZHQvA==,CA,,1515354113 155924555,155925501,2018-01-07 19:41:57,">>155925280 Of course not, it's something quite obvious and logical and would be common in libertarian societies.",,Anonymous,RIGHT.png,Z7hkojxkfr/YalnFSJsyfQ==,PL,,1515354117 155924555,155925543,2018-01-07 19:42:25,Hello my fellow individualists! Fuck collectivism amirite?,,Anonymous,,,,,1515354145 155924555,155925579,2018-01-07 19:42:53,read hoppe,,TPM,Hans on immagrations.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,,,1515354173 155924555,155925692,2018-01-07 19:44:07,">>155925280 welcome in",,TPM,Liber no dgen.png,hri4LVvsHDKu5n7MzVm4eg==,,,1515354247 155924555,155925738,2018-01-07 19:44:32,">>155925543 learn to farm, faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515354272 155924555,155925849,2018-01-07 19:45:42,">>155925543 TOGETHER WE FORM A MIGHTY FAGGOT YOU FAGGOT!",,Anonymous,kek.png,WH3gHH+pZXinGLf5qL+wBQ==,PL,,1515354342 155924555,155925858,2018-01-07 19:45:51,"Can someone explain me the calculation problem in socialism? Thanks in advance",,Anonymous,1510425199093.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,CO,,1515354351 155924555,155925884,2018-01-07 19:46:11,>>155925543,,Anonymous,misc_pol (244).png,m5+McWXyMedgZuGz62ZJyw==,CA,,1515354371 155924555,155926572,2018-01-07 19:53:41,">>155925858 Well I never actually read it so if I'm wrong someone else correct me, this is what I gather: Since in marxist socialism there is no money and all economy is supposed to be ran by goverment, there is no information about the market - prices. Without that knowledge the state CANNOT KNOW which investments are good, ultimately resulting in a complete and utter failure. Capitalism saves lives.",,Anonymous,wezezuela.jpg,iHl56X/fr4Bdp9axphVwRA==,PL,,1515354821 155924555,155927902,2018-01-07 20:08:16,">>155925858 For whatever reason, I just realized that Jesus is coming back after the world succumbs to an anti-Christ lead one world communist government, as the ultimate general Pinochet type with the wrath of Heaven behind him. Ultimate removal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515355696 155924555,155928402,2018-01-07 20:14:05,">>155926572 I see. Thank you.",,Anonymous,snek.jpg,V6vkcpZrrKGwLKEd/C5i2Q==,CO,,1515356045 155924555,155928453,2018-01-07 20:14:40,">>155927902 tfw when the second coming will be physical removal",,TPM,,,,,1515356080 155924555,155928622,2018-01-07 20:16:30,">>155928402 Amen brother. Let's start investing in helicopters.",,Anonymous,pino2.png,lAV7g9WWjKoJOskLD3X56w==,PL,,1515356190 155924555,155929450,2018-01-07 20:25:55,>>155928453,,Anonymous,SW_Pepe_feelsgoodman.png,TW4XaBxUWGgvBK/+q3UG6w==,US,,1515356755 155924555,155930604,2018-01-07 20:39:29,This is now a Hoppe thread,,Anonymous,1511990120107.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,US,,1515357569 155924555,155931098,2018-01-07 20:45:04,">>155930604 >this wasn't always a hoppe thread",,TPM,1492547495285.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,,,1515357904 155924555,155931315,2018-01-07 20:47:49,">>155930604 >Implying all /lrg/ threads aren't by definition hoppe threads.",,Anonymous,shrek.jpg,F4bdGwpWMfc/LdXtrR6YHw==,PL,,1515358069 155924555,155931372,2018-01-07 20:48:32,>>155930604,,Anonymous,1507485444227.jpg,s0w7Dw2xMRmc7L/0bVsqpw==,CO,,1515358112 155924555,155932608,2018-01-07 21:02:44,bump for Hoppe,,Anonymous,1512978019192.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,DE,,1515358964 155924555,155932840,2018-01-07 21:05:31,Stop worshiping Pinochet.,,Anonymous,agreetodisagree.jpg,wTIXwolkil7FKV1/K1E7bQ==,US,,1515359131 155924555,155932957,2018-01-07 21:06:54,"Stop sucking Jew dick It makes no sense to be ancap or libertarian if you're not a millionaire.",,Anonymous,,,,,1515359214 155924555,155933041,2018-01-07 21:07:48,">>155932840 Fuck off faggot and give an argument. >>155932957 Tell me more of your system of enslavement of the working people.",,Anonymous,jhf.png,dL2OO/5gCAIc+90BK8P3Qg==,PL,,1515359268 155924555,155933049,2018-01-07 21:07:56,">>155932840 I can't. Also, why should I?",,Anonymous,1495576993723.png,uk0zOVfUPy2u/kbn2LZJ5Q==,DE,,1515359276 155924555,155933146,2018-01-07 21:09:09,">>155933041 There is no enslavement. The goal is to force unproductive people who get rich off of other's labor to pay their fair share to improve life for the nation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1515359349 155924555,155933223,2018-01-07 21:10:17,">>155932957 If you're not a lazy bum or a single mother, it makes sense to want lower taxes and more control over your employment contracts and savings.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515359417 155924555,155933331,2018-01-07 21:11:53,">>155933146 So essentialy establish a political class who lives from coercing the working man's wealth, great job.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1515359513 155924555,155933911,2018-01-07 21:19:02,">>155933146 >muh surplus labor Labor is worth absolutely nothing without the infusion of capital.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515359942 155924555,155934140,2018-01-07 21:21:57,">>155932957 >Bolshevik flag >tells ME to be the one to stop sucking Jew dick k",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515360117 155924555,155935917,2018-01-07 21:42:37,Bump for helicopters,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1515361357 155924555,155935994,2018-01-07 21:43:31,">>155924555 Adam Smith's government is best government",,Anonymous,Wealth of Nations.jpg,O6OMhetAnAPyx80LzAK3/g==,US,,1515361411 155924555,155936156,2018-01-07 21:45:22,">>155935994 funny way to spell jefferson",,TPM,,,,,1515361522 155924555,155936803,2018-01-07 21:52:37,">>155925858 https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economic%20Calculation%20in%20the%20Socialist%20Commonwealth_Vol_2_3.pdf?file=1&type=document The problem is not calculating the price of consumer goods, but rather capital goods, where the state is both the buyer and seller. For example, a house will sell for $100k, should you build it out of wood, brick, or steel to maximize value. You can’t tell, profited will be $100k - ?.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515361957 155924555,155937493,2018-01-07 22:00:39,">>155936156 To play the devil's advocate, Jeffersonian democracy revealed its flaws in the South. It basically devolved into familial tribalism - blood feuds and all - where the municipal legal systems benefited aristocratic families over yeoman families, leading to the phenomenon of mob justice (lynching wasn't a racial phenomenon - it was the only truly ""democratic"" form of justice in the south). I wonder if any writers or philosophers have addressed these shortcomings.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515362439 155924555,155938247,2018-01-07 22:09:42,">>155935994 Smith believed in the labor theory of value. Reading him for economics of political theory is like reading Aristotle for physics or chemistry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515362982 155924555,155938467,2018-01-07 22:12:29,">>155937493 Tbh you listed all the reasons i liked jeffersonian democracy. aside from preferring yeomen over the aristocracy, which i would like some proof for. as family ties and municipality is the goal of jeffersonian democracy, since it rejects cities and their corruption",,TPM,,,,,1515363149 155924555,155940173,2018-01-07 22:31:18,,,Anonymous,FreeToDoRight.png,Okh0nz2vw2aJ49Le7dWQeg==,,,1515364278 155924555,155940191,2018-01-07 22:31:36,,,Anonymous,Dignity.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,,,1515364296 155924555,155940225,2018-01-07 22:31:56,,,Anonymous,Slave1.png,i++ebVi9fmVKncq/DEO9Iw==,,,1515364316 155924555,155940267,2018-01-07 22:32:22,,,Anonymous,LeaveUsAlone.png,DjX09060Ek8usYxYahw2TA==,,,1515364342 155924555,155942027,2018-01-07 22:53:16,">>155938467 > aside from preferring yeomen over the aristocracy, which i would like some proof for. > Murderers employed good lawyers, they appealed their cases, they brought political friendships to bear, and the relationships between the old families were so far extended that they reached even into the jury room. - R.S. Baker, Following the Color Line, 1908 That's not to say I don't admire Jeffersonian democracy. The criminal justice corruption and ensuing loss of faith in the courts are my only real scruples with it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515365596 155924555,155942419,2018-01-07 22:58:00,">>155942027 losing trust in the courts is a good thing strictly speaking. and the non reliance on government only ensure a stable society the government should not decide the law",,TPM,,,,,1515365880 155924555,155945213,2018-01-07 23:33:23,"Branding. That's the one word answer. No matter how many Libertarian conventions I go to. No matter how many networking sessions that I attend, I still think of Libertarianism as a sheltered, naive white person movement. You could probably call me an anarcho-capitalist, but I myself having nothing in common at all with others who identify as such. In any case, please listen to my blog and let me know what you think!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wiZ3A8TeI8",,Anonymous,,,,,1515368003 155924555,155945257,2018-01-07 23:34:01,"LIBERTARIAN FASCISM?! DEGENERACY? anyone who unironically calls himself shit like this is as much of a nigger as that guy T, and That Guy T is a Lunatic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWW5t5uJ5fw",,Anonymous,,,,,1515368041 155924555,155945833,2018-01-07 23:41:12,Remember where communism thrives.,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1515386143786.jpg,+WDJORyBuE91Q9Fw5loJTg==,US,,1515368472 155924555,155946004,2018-01-07 23:43:19,">>155945257 >>155945213 shoo shoo, don't be dragging other shitty youtubers name though the mud just for a giggle",,TPM,,,,,1515368599 155924555,155946204,2018-01-07 23:45:55,"give me your thoughts lrg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4sZSS_jOKk",,Anonymous,,,,,1515368755 155924555,155946283,2018-01-07 23:46:52,">>155924555 >discord",,Anonymous,absolutelyproprietary.jpg,kqDQUPtUdoohjUPnSNXMzg==,US,,1515368812 155924555,155946741,2018-01-07 23:52:32,">>155946283 you wanna start an irc? then join in, its comfy",,TPM,1492548195893.png,siCy/G146TpUAgpJiqEvCg==,,,1515369152 155924555,155946795,2018-01-07 23:53:10,Have some aesthetics and shitposts,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1515369190 155924555,155946858,2018-01-07 23:53:57,,,Anonymous,20171107172402_glitch.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,US,,1515369237 155924555,155946904,2018-01-07 23:54:37,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_12-26-07.10.52.jpg,egUdmeJt7SVwBjl4Xv2AYw==,US,,1515369277 155924555,155946951,2018-01-07 23:55:24,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-16-12.22.00.jpg,Q/JPi1kUf9OQvwWLf7LyzA==,US,,1515369324 155924555,155947003,2018-01-07 23:56:00,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-10-08.22.10.jpg,9FY9ET7EznZ0BR7IP99KrQ==,US,,1515369360 155924555,155947051,2018-01-07 23:56:43,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_12-31-12.47.18.jpg,krVT95P4NXyeYQ/p7z1Oyw==,US,,1515369403 155924555,155947119,2018-01-07 23:57:33,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-09-04.47.15.jpg,OF/TAZvcDQ/62BSoz+Xa+w==,US,,1515369453 155924555,155947152,2018-01-07 23:58:06,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-07-12.46.23.png,VMPXSTzhnoXQWlxSIkgdlA==,US,,1515369486 155924555,155947201,2018-01-07 23:58:48,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-05-01.24.55.png,O76DP1t23pzLZHGMuJrCyA==,US,,1515369528 155924555,155947352,2018-01-08 00:00:49,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1504535969000.jpg,uRDNRYfpXAnIsqkFwYlaeQ==,US,,1515369649 155924555,155947410,2018-01-08 00:01:39,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_09-02-09.19.43.jpg,aWyZKSfRNM0sUE3hHCYfuw==,US,,1515369699 155924555,155947771,2018-01-08 00:06:44,,,TPM,19275206_1375866415815007_3905073750229760421_n.jpg,UIbRqYKaUYRrjBoGGnEOJA==,,,1515370004 155924555,155949214,2018-01-08 00:27:50,">>155946204 well, lrg? should libertarian anarchists work together with the alt-right instead of leftists?",,Anonymous,sAWdrZ[1].png,voB/nvFZAuGwTvMXOlLd4g==,,,1515371270 155924555,155949469,2018-01-08 00:31:33,">>155949214 you are not one of us, that is obvious https://youtu.be/TICdCM4j7x8",,TPM,,,,,1515371493 155924555,155949576,2018-01-08 00:33:05,NatCap,,Anonymous,1280px-Bandera_FE_JONS.svg.png,3e2E8AxiFCoGITzMeImapg==,,,1515371585 155924555,155949837,2018-01-08 00:36:32,">>155949469 anarchist leftists i mean",,Anonymous,,,,,1515371792 155924555,155950007,2018-01-08 00:38:39,">>155946204 btw am I the only one who thinks this cuck in the middle is a total cuck?",,Anonymous,,,,,1515371919 155924555,155950035,2018-01-08 00:38:59,">>155949837 most don't want to, if you've talked to them you'd understand our willingness to shoot first rather than work with them. but there is an understanding that they are our useful idiots",,TPM,CommiesRthieves.jpg,65OXxrD1l3bJnGhvqFuLig==,,,1515371939 155924555,155950250,2018-01-08 00:42:03,">>155949837 Anarchist Leftists are, by principle, opposed to private property and do not believe in the NAP. They're basically thugs in practice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515372123 155924555,155954009,2018-01-08 01:34:07,">>155946204 yeah the other guy is a total fag in the end, another guy who wants to force shit on others",,Anonymous,,,,,1515375247 155924555,155955381,2018-01-08 01:53:57,">The main issue, in my view, facing the politics of the last couple of decades is not that of ideology but actually the rejection of ideology in favor of money. We have seen the republican party, but also the democratic, lose all its values to big money interests, who will always have their own interests at heart no matter the issue, and the parties have gone back on every position they've previously held. As a reaction to this, I see the alt right forming as a new way of being conservative, however it is still facing the twisted narrative and power of big money, who will go above and beyond to keep their power. The real interesting shift to look out for will be whether the alt right finally manages to break free from their corrupt politicians and hidden aristocracy, or if they will continue to live in their shadow. Of course, if only by old age, the baby boomers and big money will die out slowly anyway, and thus their influence will be buried with them in their graves. The question is how much havoc they will be able to wreak before they die. well, lrg?",,Anonymous,,,,,1515376437 156470253,156470253,2018-01-12 14:45:44,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,cf7e9b17379cb50c3fc687a0556d90cf8240515ba8827045158bb9d2e391144c.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,,,1515768344 156470253,156470381,2018-01-12 14:46:54,,,Anonymous,1495238149435[1].png,8G1fm9Y0/xnxyU54Hl3mBA==,,,1515768414 156470253,156470479,2018-01-12 14:47:49,,,Anonymous,1495238799045[1].png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,,,1515768469 156470253,156470665,2018-01-12 14:49:35,Ancap can only be achieved through agorist counter-economics.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1515768575 156470253,156470733,2018-01-12 14:50:13,,,Anonymous,264b6e60b707cb529cf4531c4266d6c1fad3c97bb82f8cd60fffba127760c73b[1].png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1515768613 156470253,156470903,2018-01-12 14:51:52,,,Anonymous,ulHYj6m[1].jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,,,1515768712 156897464,156897464,2018-01-16 06:57:33,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,based furry.png,GlP1PDUa9477XyH9/E5AEA==,GB,,1516085853 156897464,156898151,2018-01-16 07:10:04,">>156897464 Hello fren. I've read those books so I get to ask something. Both mises, rothbard and hoppe are against bankruptcy laws because of their theories on private property rights. However they are also in favor of setting up a legal system in which debtors are forced to hand over future income in order to pay off creditors. Whence this legal system? I understand that coercing someone to sell property and thereby evaporate contracted debt is 'stealing' from the creditor, but I don't understand how a legal system that enforces some scheme of repayment is admissable. Whatever the way this is structured, it will fuck with the interest rates on loans by definition, and so it must be justified from a poorly moral standpoint. I think rothbard would say that the debtor is stealing from creditor and so the first order of business is to make him feel the PAIN of breaking the nap etc. See the problem is that bankruptcy or no, the creditors will adapt their interest rates to fit this, in which case the debtor has stolen less and less. Mind you this doesn't change the fact that bankruptcy breaks property rights and so can be abolished, but the argument for the debtor stealing from the creditor is contingent on the laws that handle it. Does that makes sense? Even something as simple as compelled payments from future earnings will break the free market on interest rates, yet is necessary to stop stealing. But then the interest rates depend on the effectiveness and ruthlessness of the gov in getting back the money etc. Anyway got some reading material on bankruptcy? I've read most of mises rothbard and hoppe, but maybe not articles and interviews.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516086604 157124607,157124607,2018-01-18 06:11:47,"discuss liberty and memes and get to know fellow libertarians (also does anyone have that picture of christ chan where its says something along the lines of ""oh my god did i really just come in and stop you guys from enslaving yoir neighbors and give you religion and a community? im so sorry"")",/lrg/ - libertarian right general,Anonymous,1501364545666.png,yd7+XYwjuykQ0P0omqL8dQ==,US,,1516255907 157124607,157126530,2018-01-18 06:52:25,">>157124607 Define drugs I'm a law abiding tax paying citizen that uses the less physically harmful ones in environments where I do not run into sober people",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516258345 157124607,157130060,2018-01-18 07:49:50,">>157124607 When do we seek retribution against the government. They've violated the Nap six ways to Sunday.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516261790 157124607,157132271,2018-01-18 08:27:25,">>157124607 Cutting welfare is an easy way to perform autocide by dramatically dropping the fertility rate.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1516264045 157243222,157243222,2018-01-19 05:47:09,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,TPM,You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Liberty.jpg,8YssLLfN+SCgyLYrS+s15g==,,,1516340829 157243222,157243390,2018-01-19 05:50:53,,,Anonymous,1512937235353.jpg,0NGyX5x+40kwI0EH4XhUNQ==,US,,1516341053 157243222,157243436,2018-01-19 05:51:50,GET IN HERE,,TPM,16422428_1242686595799657_8125191047990131487_o.png,ugRB+KjF9gnNMGhsAWcxig==,,,1516341110 157243222,157243842,2018-01-19 06:00:37,"Bumped for life, liberty and private death squads.",,Anonymous,lrg badge Cheeki Breeki Alt 2.png,1Z0nlMziN3NfV7r/wvqXSg==,,,1516341637 157243222,157243892,2018-01-19 06:01:27,AYO CAPI BOIS GET IN HERE,,TPM,1492684207016.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1516341687 157243222,157243981,2018-01-19 06:03:17,,,Anonymous,1485359027175.png,K8pip6dSAYnG3JAQOmBIBQ==,,,1516341797 157243222,157244150,2018-01-19 06:06:14,BUMP FOR PAPA HOPPA,,TPM,PapaHoppe.png,NBN4oraH3WKG5FowMD/Iaw==,,,1516341974 157243222,157244686,2018-01-19 06:16:43,">>157243222 new hoppe",,Anonymous,hoppe-leonardo-da-vinci-574-542.jpg,Bhy9rGbyFj8Len6s8+UTjQ==,SE,,1516342603 157243222,157244703,2018-01-19 06:17:00,>>157244686,,Anonymous,hoppe-abstract-nature-574-542.jpg,KmY+7D80fQNpVINE76/KnQ==,SE,,1516342620 157243222,157244745,2018-01-19 06:17:41,Just kill commies lol,,TPM,1495302729609.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1516342661 157243222,157244782,2018-01-19 06:18:14,>>157244703,,Anonymous,hoppe-starry-night-574-542.jpg,QbCiiR673zIpxWhCWFqVGQ==,SE,,1516342694 157243222,157244811,2018-01-19 06:18:45,>>157244782,,Anonymous,hoppe-dark-pastel-574-542.jpg,QKTVI1Nx1+Bgh6vwiVHzaA==,SE,,1516342725 157243222,157244885,2018-01-19 06:20:27,">>157244811 deepdreams have given us some good shit",,Anonymous,dream_cnbvris9u0h.jpg,aI8znGDqvWUG5ubWWkfivA==,SE,,1516342827 157243222,157245059,2018-01-19 06:23:47,MORE MEMES FOR THE REACTOR,,TPM,1504558712076.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1516343027 157243222,157245504,2018-01-19 06:32:36,,,TPM,1493899047637.jpg,UGAuKCXjQern7FIY6tdt2w==,,,1516343556 157243222,157245599,2018-01-19 06:34:31,,,TPM,1493899017299.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,,,1516343671 157243222,157245678,2018-01-19 06:35:59,,,TPM,1505963183473.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1516343759 157243222,157245725,2018-01-19 06:36:50,,,TPM,1496702248651.jpg,mdd51Fmezkzhhn2bpZwt8w==,,,1516343810 157243222,157245775,2018-01-19 06:37:43,,,TPM,1509915617241.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,,,1516343863 157243222,157245809,2018-01-19 06:38:35,,,TPM,CommiesRthieves.jpg,65OXxrD1l3bJnGhvqFuLig==,,,1516343915 157243222,157245951,2018-01-19 06:41:11,,,TPM,image-56.jpg,BFWJxL+c9arM8vzjvKF8Kg==,,,1516344071 157243222,157246344,2018-01-19 06:49:53,,,TPM,1492690586018.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,,,1516344593 157243222,157246383,2018-01-19 06:50:57,,,TPM,1495299556311.png,oIrCczKEYERrjVyeunvHKg==,,,1516344657 157243222,157246423,2018-01-19 06:51:40,,,TPM,1493935807908.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,,,1516344700 157243222,157246495,2018-01-19 06:53:08,,,TPM,image-12.jpg,gnUH3cTKw0ZCiWhdHz1lDQ==,,,1516344788 157243222,157246540,2018-01-19 06:54:04,,,TPM,1509831444728.jpg,MCn/6JWN3t5ycuvRiadIyQ==,,,1516344844 157243222,157246578,2018-01-19 06:54:47,,,TPM,Emergency pino.jpg,K2KypfpznT/2gnLq7akLEw==,,,1516344887 157243222,157246665,2018-01-19 06:56:35,,,TPM,1513044056331.jpg,qXDpvYsAvK2F9LPbtauBPQ==,,,1516344995 157243222,157246747,2018-01-19 06:58:17,,,TPM,1495312467873.jpg,JcT2u07f6aR90JYrDxjcOg==,,,1516345097 157243222,157246815,2018-01-19 06:59:49,,,TPM,libpartyiskill.png,MnojSHWMnp+jC5PlN9C9SQ==,,,1516345189 157243222,157246962,2018-01-19 07:01:33,"Reminder, fascism is just americanism",,TPM,Americans creed.jpg,tb8iqHfjARAvdPI8WeMfUw==,,,1516345293 157243222,157247095,2018-01-19 07:04:10,last one before i knock off,,TPM,1496688253348.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,,,1516345450 157243222,157247363,2018-01-19 07:09:21,Natsoc gay,,Anonymous,1516300483125.jpg,JdT/5uo6wYWQqiwacLA9DA==,AU,,1516345761 157243222,157247616,2018-01-19 07:13:57,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1477138281515.jpg,+LH77At/plqcDFPGpL9kJg==,NL,,1516346037 157243222,157250371,2018-01-19 08:01:13,"It's sad to see /lrg/ reduced to meme spamming. Has anyone read this? Sounds interesting.",,Anonymous,cryptoanarchy.jpg,vn1Kho/6lWSnynr840uf3Q==,US,,1516348873 157243222,157250377,2018-01-19 08:01:17,">>157247616 Go away commie filthy",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516348877 157243222,157250496,2018-01-19 08:03:12,">>157250377 >this fucking new",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1516348992 157243222,157250654,2018-01-19 08:05:57,">>157246423 Top Kek",,Anonymous,1503794952552.jpg,NqjodXR4GF/F+OCWhtSzzQ==,,,1516349157 157243222,157250733,2018-01-19 08:07:25,">>157246578 saved top fucking Kek",,Anonymous,miauricio.gif,n767vj/a5ACHi+sx8/w1cQ==,,,1516349245 157243222,157250826,2018-01-19 08:08:50,">>157246962 So much freedom , if only i would have been born in murica",,Anonymous,1511935762847.jpg,4vq/l7BA6JZT+P3oaQpKUA==,,,1516349330 157243222,157254184,2018-01-19 08:56:45,"Let's try to have some discussion, what country do you think currently is the most free one on earth? I'd say Liechtenstein or Switzerland.",,Anonymous,Freedom to do right.png,Okh0nz2vw2aJ49Le7dWQeg==,PL,,1516352205 157243222,157254686,2018-01-19 09:04:22,>>157254184,,Anonymous,1498616634433.jpg,zdyOZMCl5GxXcNQGcr8vNQ==,US,,1516352662 157243222,157254786,2018-01-19 09:06:08,Libertarian is a distributed network type; people don't seem to understand this,,Anonymous,clean-network-types.png,EgT/oMcyVnmvqB8xmOZaVw==,US,,1516352768 157353092,157353092,2018-01-20 01:48:58,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,TPM,Emergency pino.jpg,K2KypfpznT/2gnLq7akLEw==,,,1516412938 157353092,157353362,2018-01-20 01:52:28,Howdy from your western NCR niggas,,Anonymous,1516298585173.jpg,kPZKep4+55cl4TMPIHaauw==,US,,1516413148 157353092,157353404,2018-01-20 01:52:57,Question. Why should i switch to libertarian when fascism best addresses the jew.,,Fashy Paki,,,US,,1516413177 157353092,157353819,2018-01-20 01:58:03,">>157353404 because the jew don't actually do anything worth noting, and are only accelerationism, consumerism and degeneracy are symptoms of the republic and the democracy. without a strong central democratic government they cannot impose stanch regulations and brainwashing.",,TPM,Hoppepill.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,,,1516413483 157353092,157353821,2018-01-20 01:58:05,Friendly reminder that America would've been AnCap if it were a known ideology back in the 1700's.,,Anonymous,213.png,2MxuIuKlgTcjXkHGAyNcvw==,,,1516413485 157353092,157354003,2018-01-20 02:00:25,">>157353821 This, i wish it was, cause it would have killed a lot the debate and political groping they had to do to make a consitution but they had to cop out and make a republic",,TPM,1492886989833.jpg,+eLcC2LwnnFANDfPRSjIkg==,,,1516413625 157353092,157354062,2018-01-20 02:01:19,">>157353404 The US government has been fascist since the Lincoln administration. Markets are heavily regulated, secession is illegal, gun rights have been eroded away, and wealth gets redistributed by numerous programs. Considering the jew has thrived in these conditions, it’s not unreasonable to abolish these institutions in order to force jews into darwinian reality and die off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516413679 157353092,157354286,2018-01-20 02:04:11,">>157354062 >the us has been a fascism thats just stupid, i wish it was, then we wouldn't allow marxists, wonton immigration and other destructive cultures",,TPM,,,,,1516413851 157353092,157354450,2018-01-20 02:06:07,>when the marxist from your copter hits the target dead center and you win the cash prize,,TPM,1492693792126.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1516413967 157353092,157354778,2018-01-20 02:10:45,,,TPM,1492692172582.png,Pf1BbhBkujFFxRuqC0CxiA==,,,1516414245 157353092,157354850,2018-01-20 02:11:44,Is this normal?,,Anonymous,1515392159459.jpg,nf3Y5MYPQsRteVbe2Spw5w==,ES,,1516414304 157353092,157356218,2018-01-20 02:29:41,Any countries with growing libertarians?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1516415381 157353092,157356254,2018-01-20 02:30:11,">>157354850 >not being an autistcap 24/7 then getting more authritarian than hitler when seeing a commie",,TPM,1493899017299.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,,,1516415411 157353092,157356981,2018-01-20 02:40:54,">>157356218 Brazil",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516416054 157353092,157358229,2018-01-20 02:58:33,">>157356218 venezuela",,TPM,,,,,1516417113 157475410,157475410,2018-01-21 01:06:25,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,TPM,You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Liberty.jpg,8YssLLfN+SCgyLYrS+s15g==,,,1516496785 157475410,157475506,2018-01-21 01:07:31,bamp,,Anonymous,,,US,,1516496851 157475410,157475532,2018-01-21 01:07:47,,,Anonymous,IMG_2382.png,xuDuXpQNIFW4y+xCiSilZg==,US,,1516496867 157475410,157475555,2018-01-21 01:08:03,Come and defeat me in the arena you stinky AnCaps,,Anonymous,IMG_3414.jpg,YoZFHlRrcsaqRYc32BaA7w==,US,,1516496883 157475410,157475676,2018-01-21 01:09:24,Lets get it on!,,TPM,1492690586018.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,,,1516496964 157475410,157475701,2018-01-21 01:09:51,>>157475410,,Anonymous,IMG_0845.jpg,7ntCayPRhcsU00mdHICtlA==,US,,1516496991 157475410,157475773,2018-01-21 01:10:48,">>157475555 Checked",,TPM,1513044056331.jpg,qXDpvYsAvK2F9LPbtauBPQ==,,,1516497048 157475410,157477079,2018-01-21 01:27:01,Friendly reminder that America would have been ancap if it were a known ideology back then.,,Anonymous,Murica.jpg,dZoxGNHUISFlLfNiZWryvw==,,,1516498021 157475410,157477395,2018-01-21 01:30:58,"What's up, niggers",,Anonymous,,,,,1516498258 157475410,157477443,2018-01-21 01:31:40,">>157477079 Say that again but to my face. You cant survive these lips bucko *SMACKS* mmm come in for a kiss",,StitchyLips,IMG_3358.jpg,uUVlRoZ5J+GNtYrg7i6kYA==,US,,1516498300 157475410,157477611,2018-01-21 01:34:01,">>157477395 ayo",,TPM,1496688253348.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,,,1516498441 157475410,157477774,2018-01-21 01:36:08,">>157477611 Stop name fagging you homo. I bet you knuckle your asshole to Rothbard's chuckling.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516498568 157475410,157477964,2018-01-21 01:38:41,">>157475410 what do we think of left-libertarians like Will Wilkinson and the Niskanen Center? They support much of the libertarian policy agenda (free markets). https://www.vox.com/2016/9/1/12732168/economic-freedom-score-america-welfare-state",,Anonymous,Will_Wilkinson.jpg,6JCDF0LL7FNgsVLsRh+PDg==,US,,1516498721 157475410,157478051,2018-01-21 01:39:50,">>157477774 boi i have all of the 'so to speak's' from Hoppe's speeches on a loop for when I give reacharounds to the neighborhood's children",,TPM,,,,,1516498790 157475410,157478156,2018-01-21 01:41:18,">>157477964 you can't have free markets when you let everyone of any moral scruples in, especially when you don't see the underlying value of race and preemptive self defense",,TPM,,,,,1516498878 157475410,157478356,2018-01-21 01:44:06,">>157475532 Hilariously weak propaganda",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516499046 157475410,157478530,2018-01-21 01:46:16,">>157478356 that's the point of the meme, to be weak little bite sized ideas",,TPM,1492548195893.png,siCy/G146TpUAgpJiqEvCg==,,,1516499176 157475410,157478552,2018-01-21 01:46:33,">>157477964 Imo, I say we team up with some of them in a coalition of anti-statism. Rothbard was open to alliances with anyone that has some of the same agenda as he was.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516499193 157475410,157478606,2018-01-21 01:47:06,">>157478051 Fo tree fiddy?",,Anonymous,,,,,1516499226 157475410,157478874,2018-01-21 01:50:34,"At heart I am a Libertarian. I like the idea of people keeping to themselves and nobody bothering anyone else There is one fatal flaw with Libertarianism, however: The Haves will always be outnumbered by the Have-Nots People who wish to keep to themselves want to rely on their own ingenuity..or their own grit and hard work to make their way. I picture a homesteader....a Little House on the Prairie type thing. But for every voting man who believes in this there will be 20 who believe in getting scratch tickets, cigarettes and booze with whatever money they have....and then they look with envy on the Libertarian man who makes his own way. And they will vote to take his shit. To redistribute his wealth. And this is why Libertarianism won't ever work...at least not in a Democracy. The leeches will always vote to redistribute wealth",,Anonymous,rhodesia.jpg,pH3p08yDp+qA/XdMl9oZDg==,CA,,1516499434 157475410,157478974,2018-01-21 01:51:51,">>157475410 Im an amateur musician and I want to make some sort of electro presentation of Hoppe's a priori of argumentation and praexeology. They are the most powerful philosophical insights that must be spread especially to the younger generation. Unfortuenatley Hoppe's speaking and the dryness of economic logic puts people off. I think with a little flair a Hoppe lecture could be entertaining to the majority of people with short attention spans. It would be more than just synthwave in the background.",,Anonymous,1484458284351.jpg,VHrWS6IxIRC6tziSiU1hDg==,US,,1516499511 157475410,157479058,2018-01-21 01:52:56,">>157478530 I like this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516499576 157475410,157479064,2018-01-21 01:53:07,">>157475410 libertarians end up like white people in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Genocided. how's your economy doing? you're dead...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516499587 157475410,157479150,2018-01-21 01:54:16,How do you fix the college debt issue because that issue is going to be what makes or breaks you with the next generation of voters,,Anonymous,,,US,,1516499656 157475410,157479195,2018-01-21 01:54:59,">>157478874 this is wrong, as the only reason you seem to believe in the 20 to 1 idea is that the cities are or overcrowded with those types, as this last election was indicative of, there exists more have-nots only because the liberals keep letting them in, in canada and the us, we have the luxury to have over half the native pop in favor of hard work and family values. the tide will never turn, but when it does, the country itself will be destroyed in the tides of civil war",,TPM,1492855755661.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1516499699 157475410,157479276,2018-01-21 01:55:58,">>157479058 hab another",,TPM,1512330096410.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,,,1516499758 157475410,157479572,2018-01-21 02:00:01,">>157478874 Democracy and capitalism will never work together in the long run, yes. >>157479064 A private property society doesn't automatically mean it will be open to all immigration since a number of people in said society like being left alone, nor would they appreciate having unsolicited niggers all over their lawn. The weapons and defense contracts and sales would rise by a good degree. A property owner would only want the best help, not whatever manner of trash. They would also have to assimilate or get fucked over since the asshole can't communicate. It's hard to do a job well when you can't speak your bosses language. No gibs for them stay. Doesn't sound like it would be a problem. That, and it was a government leader with too much power, surprise surprise, who welcomed the swarm in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516500001 157475410,157479630,2018-01-21 02:00:45,">>157479064 Remember Merkel?",,Anonymous,,,,,1516500045 157475410,157479659,2018-01-21 02:01:07,">>157478974 are you talking of remixing his audio to be more condensed and exciting?",,TPM,,,,,1516500067 157475410,157480377,2018-01-21 02:10:31,">>157479195 The idealist in me believes in the idea that the Haves/Libertarians of the world will just break away and fuck off into the bush Is it our eternal lot in life to constantly be overrun by leeches....break away and form another state....then get comfy and let too many leeches in....rinse and repeat?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516500631 157475410,157480642,2018-01-21 02:14:31,">>157479572 countries controlled by private companies that rely on private property are interested in human bodies, consumers...it will always lead to open immigration. Unless there is an ethnostate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516500871 157475410,157480922,2018-01-21 02:18:23,">liberty and freedom of speech are sacred rights but if you have the 'wrong' political beliefs we will throw you out of a helicopter Libertardian brainlets make me lol",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516501103 157475410,157481209,2018-01-21 02:22:33,">>157480642 Yes, so a corporation would like more consumers but would importing half of Africa do anything to help? The same assholes that have no money, no education, no skills, and no respect for your culture? These would become the consumers? Fat chance. A democracy with no regard for the local population on the other hand. One that just wants votes and more power, which means bigger government, now THAT would lead to what you imagine.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516501353 157475410,157481320,2018-01-21 02:24:05,">>157480922 >implying all libertarians think the same >implying all libertarians are Hoppean",,Anonymous,,,,,1516501445 157475410,157481433,2018-01-21 02:25:38,">>157481209 Being a consumer doesn't require education, skills, respect for culture...only requires mindless drones that will slave away at worthless jobs so they by widgets and not question authority. An ethnostate is the only way to protect the white race",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516501538 157475410,157481861,2018-01-21 02:32:38,">>157481433 Consumers with no jobs and no money? No job means there's a chance you don't have local language skills. Not knowing the culture or language makes it hard to stay in a private property society full of people who aren't interested in niggers squatting all over their property and ruining things? It's not like it's a republic or some such where there are public roads just anyone can use. Again, the security forces and weapons sales will go through the roof just as the barks of one's guns and the screams of the invading peoples. The corporations need people with money and won't chimp out and just mob and steal shit from the store. They need money. Not more costs. 10/10 At least try to think with a methodological individualist self-interest motive and extend it to all members of society for once. You want your pure ethnostate with near total economic nationalism? Why not try North Korea.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516501958 157475410,157482029,2018-01-21 02:35:09,">>157480377 basically, the universe works in cycles, first noticed by the greats like plato and aristotle, you'll always go from a small gov, to a large gov, to collapse, then the rebuilding, in the right form of gov, the right kind of life' that cycle may take hundreds or thousands of years, but it will always happen sure as the stars move",,TPM,,,,,1516502109 157475410,157482452,2018-01-21 02:41:14,">>157481861 Corporations are color blind purely out of self interest not because of morality. They will gladly take in shitskins from countries with a tradition of authoritarian government and culture. Third world, low IQ aliens are easier to manipulate and control and made to consume. North Korea is your red herring... An ethnostate can still trade with other countries and allow tourism and exchange of knowledge, and all the freedoms envisioned by the founders of the U.S. ...but it can consciously choose self-preservation on a national scale.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516502474 157475410,157483872,2018-01-21 03:00:19,">>157482452 No, corporations recognize green. They recognize money, not going into the red. Bringing in the niggers and muds like they do in Europe is a net drain, a massive net drain. Not unless they are subsidized to do so by a government. Government is also not some magical moral force. They are humans as much as you or I. Bureaucrats are humans, not Philosopher Kings. They need votes just as much as a corporation needs money. A corporation can't just import niggers and magically get money from them being consumers. They have no money and they have no jobs and they have no gibs in a private property society. A government, on the other hand, can spew whatever demagoguery or jsut have the money printed. Boom, the niggers and muds now have money. They can spew more polemics and boom, they and the progressives fight for them to get votes. Votes to keep them in power while raising more taxes from everyone else to pander to these new voting blocks. Just like in today's time. All thanks to government. Government is nothing special. It is ran by humans with human desires and human weaknesses. Empirical data proves this. Sorry, I assumed you're an economic nationalist. The type that doesn't want import and just trades with other countries based on barter while producing everything themselves. I'll try not to assume in that manner.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516503619 157475410,157484886,2018-01-21 03:16:05,">>157483872 Corporations are nothing special. They are ran by humans with human desires and human weaknesses. See what I did there? An ethnostate is difficult to achieve..not denying that. But the purely corporate/private property model does not guarantee any protection of individual rights, scientific advancement or cultural preservation. Far from it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516504565 157475410,157486752,2018-01-21 03:45:03,">>157484886 corporations are not simply souless automa, no less than the nobility were in the old daysto explain further corporations without buisness law would mean that instead of being driven by souless investors on the board of whatever. it would be guided by one man with his vision, to be passed down in his family, much as a noble estate of old. indeed it would not specifically guarantee advancement, as there would be not overseer on a nation state level to direct what feild will get funded. however i might mention that space exploration is already being spearheaded by corporations such as space x, as well as other ventures keenly interested in mining the asteroids and being the first, and temporary monopolist of space's resorces cuture develops regardless of state, so long as there is people there is culture, and just as how chrismas was outlawed here in the us at one point, government can only get in the way of culture, as the most they can do is declare 'federal' holidaies",,TPM,,,,,1516506303 157475410,157487404,2018-01-21 03:54:26,,,TPM,Screenshot_143.png,KFqTmR4fx3pGw4PItt81kg==,,,1516506866 157475410,157490572,2018-01-21 04:45:26,"Libertarian here. You people are fucking useless and will never accomplish anything. You also have terrible arguments. All of the data and facts on mises.org and you can't even put them into infographics and shit people can easily read. lol liberty is fucking dead and it deserves to be because it's defenders are lazy cucks",,Anonymous,,,,,1516509926 157475410,157492738,2018-01-21 05:21:30,">>157490572 >Libertarian here lolspergs get the gass too",,TPM,libpartyiskill.png,MnojSHWMnp+jC5PlN9C9SQ==,,,1516512090 157475410,157492919,2018-01-21 05:24:32,">>157492738 >ancap flag Are you not a libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,,,1516512272 157475410,157493956,2018-01-21 05:42:36,">>157492919 more so than you mohammad",,TPM,1495312467873.jpg,JcT2u07f6aR90JYrDxjcOg==,,,1516513356 157475410,157494170,2018-01-21 05:46:17,">>157493956 nice argument retard refute the things I said or you're still an idiot enjoy letting leftists take over",,Anonymous,,,,,1516513577 157475410,157494505,2018-01-21 05:51:58,">>157494170 >I was arguing get fucked boi, read or die",,TPM,,,,,1516513918 157475410,157494972,2018-01-21 05:59:45,,,TPM,1504558712076.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1516514385 157475410,157495013,2018-01-21 06:00:34,,,TPM,Emergency pino.jpg,K2KypfpznT/2gnLq7akLEw==,,,1516514434 157475410,157495065,2018-01-21 06:01:32,">>157494505 >I'm too stupid to actually refute you AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA",,Anonymous,1352083287839.jpg,EMxTMwbqizXe+0Vfqxinvw==,,,1516514492 157475410,157495086,2018-01-21 06:01:49,,,TPM,1492683483279.png,0RjwgwAdV1v7710wVkeSXQ==,,,1516514509 157475410,157495150,2018-01-21 06:03:02,">>157495065 mhmmm gib those sweet (you)'s to pappa hoppa",,TPM,1509915617241.jpg,wZEoci1k0p60LbzxJNnVlg==,,,1516514582 157475410,157495513,2018-01-21 06:08:40,">S >N >E >K",,TPM,1495299556311.png,oIrCczKEYERrjVyeunvHKg==,,,1516514920 157475410,157495666,2018-01-21 06:11:03,a snekfu a day keeps the feds away!,,TPM,1492693792126.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1516515063 157475410,157495797,2018-01-21 06:13:06,"gotta knock out for now, hope the threads still here when i get back",,TPM,1497153740310.png,F55EV/gNXws1NUxEHxqshA==,,,1516515186 157475410,157496195,2018-01-21 06:19:45,">>157495150 Imagine having IQ this low you get utterly BTFO in a debate and can only respond with butthurt one liners",,Anonymous,72hddd.png,Dea2DD71whAcbszf6DvhUw==,,,1516515585 157475410,157496572,2018-01-21 06:55:27,">>157490572 Good job you lolberg, you're part of the problem. This movement isn't supposed to be as easily accesible like natsocism, this is why we have 99% less spergs.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1516517727 157475410,157496704,2018-01-21 06:58:55,">>157496195 mom gay Anyways what is you people's stance on privately owned nuclear weapons? Technically it's not a violation of property rights, but good luck storing them in your covenant community.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516517935 157475410,157496917,2018-01-21 07:06:39,">>157496572 >This movement isn't supposed to be as easily accesible AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Holy fucking shit. And you're calling ME part of the problem? You're literally saying the movement should be destroyed and cucked by other movements. You're saying we shouldn't even try to get normies to be interested in it. Holy fuck you people belong in commie gulags lmao >>157496704 I'm a minarchist white nationalist so I think they should be banned.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516518399 157475410,157496927,2018-01-21 07:07:02,">>157490572 WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO DO READING TO UNDERSTAND THIS IDEOLOGY",,Anonymous,,,,,1516518422 157475410,157496971,2018-01-21 07:08:30,">>157496917 The concept of liberty is supposed to be pushed to normies, not our anarcho-capitalist theory you fucking sperg.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1516518510 157475410,157497045,2018-01-21 07:10:37,">>157478874 Not after a few generations away from state schooling they wouldn't. >But for every voting man who believes in this there will be 20 who believe in getting scratch tickets, cigarettes and booze with whatever money they have....and then they look with envy on the Libertarian man who makes his own way. And they will vote to take his shit. To redistribute his wealth. Imagine private and home schooling being part of the dominant ideology to the point where we get gibs culture out of the media even and people start being responsible for themselves and their property again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516518637 157475410,157497083,2018-01-21 07:11:44,">>157496917 >minarchist >government overreach imagine my shock I bet you also think argumentation is coercion, beta bitch lmao",,Anonymous,,,,,1516518704 157475410,157497255,2018-01-21 07:16:11,">>157496927 >WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO ACTUALLY EXPLAIN THINGS AND HAVE SOURCES FOR MY ARGUMENTS IN ORDER TO COMMUNICATE THEM EFFECTIVELY AND WIN ARGUMENTS Not only can you people not do the dumbed down version of your arguments but you can't even effectively argue the full version of your arguments. Free markets and libertarianism is fucking dead. Just kill yourself. >>157496971 >The concept of liberty is supposed to be pushed to normies LOL AND YOU FAGGOTS CAN'T EVEN FUCKING DO THAT aAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Also the only way to potentially get ancap is to first get people to accept liberty, which they won't because you people are all failures. >>157497083 lmao I literally don't care no nukes for you, pretty sure I can get 99% of people to agree even rothbard had trouble with this one",,Anonymous,,,,,1516518971 157475410,157498647,2018-01-21 07:59:43,">>157497255 >truth formed by concensus Listen to this one, feggit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSshmRMGbw0",,Anonymous,,,,,1516521583 157475410,157498721,2018-01-21 08:00:52,">>157498647 dont care about a youtube video by 2 spergs lol also didn't cantwell cry on camera lol what a faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1516521652 157475410,157499587,2018-01-21 08:16:30,Redpill me on this ideology. What exactly are you right wing about unlike lolbertarians?,,Anonymous,,,,,1516522590 157475410,157499816,2018-01-21 08:20:24,">>157499587 What exactly right wing about you neetsocs and fascists? You whine about successful white rich people all day, support unions and are against ""usury""? lol",,Anonymous,,,,,1516522824 158273440,158273440,2018-01-28 01:26:07,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,TPM,You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Liberty.jpg,8YssLLfN+SCgyLYrS+s15g==,,,1517102767 158273440,158275054,2018-01-28 01:52:18,"Remember, communists get the chopper",,TPM,Removenow.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,,,1517104338 158273440,158275488,2018-01-28 01:59:43,"why do nazis think its okay to give welfare to the working and the mothers, when welfare will make a weak people? why do they commit to the idea of nationalizing industry when this is unironically socialism?",,TPM,1493899047637.jpg,UGAuKCXjQern7FIY6tdt2w==,,,1517104783 158273440,158275710,2018-01-28 02:03:12,"Why do fascists believe that the state can make the culture when they also believe the state should be molded around the traditions of the people and their faith? that's not how it works, the people make the culture, not the state, their recognition that the state must keep the culture that preexists the fascist state just throws them on a loop",,TPM,CommiesRthieves.jpg,65OXxrD1l3bJnGhvqFuLig==,,,1517104992 158273440,158275928,2018-01-28 02:06:49,"Why do ancoms and other anarchists believe that private property only exists by the state and thus it would not be recognized by the other anarchists, yet they also believe they can have a coherent social order when nobody knows what is whos. and nobody can tell the others no without giving orders and imposing hierarchy?",,TPM,Screenshot_143.png,KFqTmR4fx3pGw4PItt81kg==,,,1517105209 158273440,158276585,2018-01-28 02:18:19,"Why do run of the mill voters expect to change anything despite the majority being aware of the massive corruption that infects both parties? why do the not follow their own constitution? why are they doing parties and property taxes and allowed the land to be taken by the feds?",,TPM,1496688253348.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,,,1517105899 158273440,158277440,2018-01-28 02:31:19,">>158275710 >the people make the culture, not the state Who exactly are you arguing against? It's like you don't even know what your opponents think. This whole thread is I'm 12 and what is this. Why can't ancaps meme?",,Anonymous,1492886515821.jpg,AX5eu1BdO1Vx48sB5EcUPA==,US,,1517106679 158273440,158277606,2018-01-28 02:34:14,">>158277440 well i only am saying that after talking to a whole lot of fascists here and hearing what they say about the role of the state and what gives it its legitimacy nice deflects btw",,TPM,1492548195893.png,siCy/G146TpUAgpJiqEvCg==,,,1517106854 158692900,158692900,2018-01-31 10:33:52,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1504132276000.png,y6CrruuR2iSdtrRaq9Rsgw==,FR,,1517394832 158692900,158692986,2018-01-31 10:34:52,GET IN HERE,,Anonymous,1465684828865.png,bo1PUuEtZhhitXBjfrLQMQ==,FR,,1517394892 158692900,158693008,2018-01-31 10:35:16,Joke tier spooks,,Anonymous,1157916bfb02bd08bb91e5cd7b8acbb44854ec07.png,Htte+3qQORZrP6xXNuGPBg==,US,,1517394916 158692900,158693060,2018-01-31 10:35:47,,,Anonymous,1491341521023.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,FR,,1517394947 158692900,158693140,2018-01-31 10:36:51,,,Anonymous,45447929fc03426f958c5e62603ec099d6eec849.jpg,L0ImpEM7mQDoEIE+2JO3uA==,US,,1517395011 158692900,158693201,2018-01-31 10:37:17,,,Anonymous,da8d0f92ac34bad25996fe1c3db93a084f903469.jpg,AWirR8S7tp6AD1SEFqz9BQ==,US,,1517395037 158692900,158693495,2018-01-31 10:40:22,"""Secession increases ethnic,linguistic, religious, and cultural diversity, while centuries of centralization have stamped out hundreds of distinct cultures. Secession will end the forced integration brought about by centralization, and rather than stimulating social strife and cultural leveling, it will promote the peaceful, cooperative competition of different territorially separate cultures."" ""Indeed, as should be clear, as soon as the government's law and legislation supersedes family law and legislation (including inter-family arrangements in conjunction with marriages, joint-family offspring, inheritance, etc.), the value and importance of the institution of a family can only be systematically eroded. For what is a family if it cannot even find and provide for its own internal law and order! At the same time, as should be clear as well but has not been sufficiently noted, from the point of view of the government's rulers, their ability to interfere in internal family matters must be regarded as the ultimate prize and the pinnacle of their own power."" Extract from ""Democracy : the god that failed"" by Hans Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,1516360694648.jpg,QbCiiR673zIpxWhCWFqVGQ==,FR,,1517395222 158692900,158693580,2018-01-31 10:41:10,Libertarianism is explicitly white. It will never work in a non white deracinated low trust society. So you can say goodbye to your ideology until you are ready to remain your soil.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1517395270 158692900,158693857,2018-01-31 10:44:32,">>158693495 ""Abolishing forced integration requires the de-democratization of society and ultimately the abolition of democracy. More specifically, the power to admit or exclude should be stripped from the hands of the central government19 and reassigned to the states, provinces, cities, towns, villages, residential districts, and ultimately to private property owners and their voluntary associations. The means to achieve this goal are decentralization and secession (both inherently undemocratic, and antimajoritarlan).20 One would be well on the way toward a restoration of the freedom of association and exclusion as is implied in the idea and institution of private property, and much of the social strife currently caused by forced integration would disappear, if only towns and villages could and would do what they did as a matter of course until well into the nineteenth century in Europe and the United States: to post signs regarding entrance requirements to the town, and once in town for entering specific pieces of property (no beggars, bums, or homeless, but also no Moslems, Hindus, Jews, Catholics, etc.); to expel as trespassers those who do not fulfill these requirements; and to solve the ""naturalization"" question somewhat along the Swiss model, where local assemblies, not the central government, determine who can and who cannot become a Swiss citizen.""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1517395472 158692900,158693907,2018-01-31 10:45:12,">>158693580 Alright, race war now, I guess.",,Anonymous,A2B0FEED-ECF6-41F9-8E13-E795AED22B40.jpg,wYTVDSFZ+CxDFZ2B8SPIsg==,US,,1517395512 158692900,158693946,2018-01-31 10:45:39,">>158693495 ""Human cooperation-division of labor-based on the one hand on integrated family-households and on the other one on separated households, villages, tribes, nations, races, etc., wherein man's natural biological attractions and repulsions for and against one another are transformed into a mutually recognized system of spatial (geographical) allocation (of physical approximation and integration or of separation and segregation, and of direct or of indirect contact, exchange and trade), leads to improved standards of living, a growing population, further extensification and intensification of the division of labor, and increasing diversity and differentiation.""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1517395539 158692900,158694137,2018-01-31 10:47:50,">>158693495 Let me begin by discussing two possible meanings of the term conservative. The first meaning is to refer to someone as conservative who generally supports the status quo; that is, a person who·wants to conserve whatever laws, rules, regulations, moral and behavioral codes happen to exist at any given point in time. Because different laws, rules, and political institutions are in place at different times and/ or different locations, what a conservative supports depends on and changes with place and time. To be a conservative means nothing specific at all except to like the existing order, whatever that may be. The first meaning can be discarded, then. I The term conservative must have a different meaning. What it means, and possibly only can mean, is this: Conservative refers to someone who believes in the existence of a natural order, a natural state of affairs which corresponds to the nature of things: of nature and man. This natural order is and can be disturbed by accidents and anomalies: by earthquakes and hurricanes, diseases, pests, monsters and beasts, by two-headed horses or fourlegged humans, cripples and idiots, and by war, conquest and tyranny. But it is not difficult to distinguish the normal from the anomaly, the essential from the accidental. A little bit of abstraction removes all the clutter and enables nearly everyone to ""see"" what is and what is not natural and in accordance with the nature of things. Moreover, the natural is at the same time the most enduring state of affairs. The natural order is ancient and forever the same (only anomalies and accidents undergo change), hence, it can be recognized by us everywhere and at all times. Conservative refers to someone who recognizes the old and natural through the ""noise"" of anomalies and accidents and who defends, supports, and helps to preserve it against the temporary and anomalous.""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1517395670 158692900,158694215,2018-01-31 10:48:32,">>158692900 You give libertarians a bad name",,Anonymous,binarylolbert.png,KFTwC5AP19dbqlKBIf0Xrg==,US,,1517395712 158692900,158694233,2018-01-31 10:48:41,">>158693140 >libertarians are Republicans Good job pointing out light-libertarians, but this is libertarian-right on /pol/. Only private police here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517395721 158692900,158694376,2018-01-31 10:50:21,">>158693495 I should have called it Hoppe General",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1517395821 159480572,159480572,2018-02-06 15:46:32,"Motto of the day: Privatise net tax recipients. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things libertarian - private system of government, natural law, laissez-faire economy, and sovereignity, as well as organisation, tactics, and long-term strategy. We encourage debate, so long as all parties recognise that property norms are inherent in each civil exchange between multiple consenting individuals. Communists explicitly reject property norms and as such will not be respected. Discord server: /fnmp99D Pastebin link: pastebin.com/0rkTentN",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General - The Goys Are Back in Town Edition,Anonymous,ancapball hoppe siege waco.png,r0RCnbUnc4owk39fYuTgIw==,SK,,1517931992 159480572,159480713,2018-02-06 15:47:47,"Frequent misconceptions: >What is the libertarian stance on open borders? A full privatisation of all property implies the owners' full right of exlusion or inclusion to their property only, being responsible for the accomodation, as well as legally for the good behaviour of their invitees, which automatically rules out inviting jihadis and other savages with no concepts of property norms into civilised lands in large numbers. As long as a state exists, however, closed borders (forced exclusion) are preferrable to open borders (forced integration), if for no other reason than there being fewer people within the reach of a State to be expropriated by it. >Is capitalism Jewish/degenerate? Capitalism is the natural order of things, most commonly used in regard to the economy. It is the lack of restrictions on grounds other than natural law, which must be equally appliable to everyone. Deviation from this model ultimately means higher time preference rates among people, meaning immediate satisfaction is preferred over long-term investment, which in turn leads to less interest in production and more interest in leisure activities, meaning general poverty. This goes to show that socialism, not capitalism, works best for the Jewish interest of turning the gentiles into hedonistic cattle. >Who would build the roads? Scarcity of space implies the need for people and goods to move from point A to point B. Generally, this means that roads must be established, as land transport remains one of the most heavily used modes of transportation. There is a market for roads in any society, the state just holds a monopoly over it. >What is the libertarian position on usury? The main problem with interest loan provision is the historical monopoly the highly tribalistic Jewish communities have held over it, often due to state intervention (which was comparatively extremely rare in those times).",,Anonymous,contra krugman bullying.png,hHYEFw7Gqj2QBLhqwpVTYw==,SK,,1517932067 159480572,159480814,2018-02-06 15:48:44,"Recommended reading: BOOKS >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Theory of Socialism and Capitalism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant ARTICLES >Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property by Llewellyn Rockwell - mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property >A Realistic Libertarianism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ >For A New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - mises.org/blog/new-libertarian >Nations by Consent by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf >Race! That Murray Book by Murray Rothbard - archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html >Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature by Murray Rothbard - mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0",,Anonymous,timmy captain of my soul v2.png,4x/2PHj7yUGfiGcnnq4P9g==,SK,,1517932124 159480572,159480836,2018-02-06 15:49:02,Bump,,Anonymous,24232756_1629856667078143_8950138894645369621_n.png,CiA+/2RiEOl1IoH8tkszfQ==,US,,1517932142 159480572,159480839,2018-02-06 15:49:03,"Media: PODCASTS/VIDEOS >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods Show >radicalagenda.com - Radical Agenda / Letters from a Charlottesville Jail / Cantwell & Kessler / LIVE from Seg! (Christopher Cantwell) >youtube.com/stefbot - Steben Bolynu :DD >youtube.com/channel/UCR7pD2JAMKUx4LH93YWjaXw - morrakiu.com - Morrakiu >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus ARTICLES >mises.org - Mises Institute >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society",,Anonymous,mises cato memri.png,MzQofnHCZdYfGmzUP9Lo2g==,SK,,1517932143 159480572,159480907,2018-02-06 15:49:38,"Videos/podcasts: >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >For a New Libertarian by Jeff Deist - youtube.com/watch?v=tsUmV0wNXlc >Radical Agenda by Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/ >The War on Terror by Augustus Sol Invictus - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U >The Leftist Invasion of Libertarianism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHv9NyeS3s0 >Attempts To Reach The Left: An Unmitigated Disaster by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQBJPZKR28 >Individualism and Group Interests by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5eQ5tEoRk >The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM >In Defence of Capitalism by Christopher Cantwell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiJGDShHJg",,Anonymous,ancap nap slaughter.png,1JeCEz0OYu9xFObgYoGy0w==,SK,,1517932178 159480572,159481220,2018-02-06 15:52:21,Friendly reminder that the good ol' US of A would have been Ancap if it was a more known ideology back in the 1700's.,,Anonymous,Murica.jpg,dZoxGNHUISFlLfNiZWryvw==,US,,1517932341 159480572,159481996,2018-02-06 15:58:18,">>159480907 Whoopsie, seems like Cantwell's still not done migrating his sites. Here's the fixed link: >Radical Agenda by Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7KTjr6x9EM Also, Chris has been out of jail since early December and boy oh boy has he been busy. Here's some of the podcasts he's made (though you should totally listen to them yourself): >Cantwell with MacDonald on the JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSshmRMGbw0 >Cantwell with Andre Wang Lin (airs every Thursday, tune in, fags) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wteWftHSJdo",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1517932698 159480572,159482264,2018-02-06 16:00:20,Here's a map I found a long time ago.,,Anonymous,1494106452502.png,MJI4Yg7Nh8FhQCrSjBUwIQ==,PL,,1517932820 159480572,159482445,2018-02-06 16:01:42,,,Anonymous,sVZeIG8.png,RlAH9kfZH9AE3aqD20G77A==,SE,,1517932902 159480572,159482702,2018-02-06 16:03:26,"https://youtu.be/0XhfnJytYFg READ SIEGE.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517933006 159480572,159482814,2018-02-06 16:04:19,">>159482264 I'm willing to sacrifice Europe to the damn socialists if it means we get America. The moment they violate the NAP, though, they're getting wiped off the face of the Earth.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1517933059 159480572,159482956,2018-02-06 16:05:25,">>159482702 reeee seeej",,Anonymous,cantwell read siege.png,xPsGBZN1obAbFcf9KzFuoA==,SK,,1517933125 159480572,159483986,2018-02-06 16:13:44,Reminder: minarchism is code-word for: RETARDED,,TPM,big_gov_small_gov.png,KB82kEVGkzRFbORNitTBqg==,,,1517933624 159480572,159484001,2018-02-06 16:13:52,">>159480572 What is, objectively, the most sound mean of spreading our ethos? I've been thinking a lot, and as I grow older, my hopes of getting ancapland fade away and give space to some sort of sage mentality. See, it must be done that we become the norm, not the radicals, ensuring in a sense that, in the strenght of numbers, can we, through the use of either force or cold denial of the rules imposed by the state, could break away from it, social and geographically. How, my niggas, can we achieve such numbers?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1517933632 159480572,159484489,2018-02-06 16:17:53,,,Anonymous,Slave2.png,aDO1VeOodimhaWMXXZE9Dw==,,,1517933873 159480572,159484557,2018-02-06 16:18:23,">>159484489 THIS",,Anonymous,,,,,1517933903 159480572,159484638,2018-02-06 16:19:14,,,Anonymous,LeaveUsAlone2.png,ZfZHCXCHpMLaUlfdtJh5kA==,,,1517933954 159480572,159484772,2018-02-06 16:20:29,Are you guys fans of Gustave de Molinari?,,Anonymous,PicsArt_01-25-12.00.19.jpg,qL8VuAzbeZIaHJsLbkSFvg==,US,,1517934029 159480572,159484988,2018-02-06 16:22:18,">>159484772 I think Rothbard quoted him a few times, he seems alright.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1517934138 159480572,159485076,2018-02-06 16:23:03,">>159484001 You become the norm by simply projecting your presence at normies in your area. Most people hate the government, but can't tell why.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1517934183 159480572,159485116,2018-02-06 16:23:27,">>159480572 bump for freedom, peace and liberty",,Anonymous,,,,,1517934207 159480572,159485299,2018-02-06 16:25:01,">>159481220 It didn't really exist back then, though all of its foundations existed. They have since Kant, but it has taken since the 1900s with Rothbard for anyone to fully explore the consequences of individual liberty and property rights derived from natural law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517934301 159480572,159485494,2018-02-06 16:26:35,I'm going to post a fuckton of aesthetics now,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1517934395 159480572,159485625,2018-02-06 16:27:40,,,Anonymous,20171107172402_glitch.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,US,,1517934460 159480572,159485821,2018-02-06 16:29:06,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1504535969000.jpg,uRDNRYfpXAnIsqkFwYlaeQ==,US,,1517934546 159480572,159485902,2018-02-06 16:29:44,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_09-02-09.19.43.jpg,aWyZKSfRNM0sUE3hHCYfuw==,US,,1517934584 159480572,159486027,2018-02-06 16:30:52,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502913433000.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,US,,1517934652 159480572,159486117,2018-02-06 16:31:45,">>159480572 >Hoppe >real libertarian made me lol",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,JE22vjeBdEvVxfrdq8truQ==,US,,1517934705 159480572,159486158,2018-02-06 16:32:06,<----All fresh eyes look here,,TPM,5stagesblack.png,GWMVzgaV1vE2T5rjSPReug==,,,1517934726 159480572,159486204,2018-02-06 16:32:29,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1517934749 159480572,159486256,2018-02-06 16:32:59,">>159486117 >hoppe >Not liberty personified",,TPM,1492548195893.png,siCy/G146TpUAgpJiqEvCg==,,,1517934779 159480572,159486459,2018-02-06 16:34:45,Capitalism is incompatible with nationalism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1517934885 159480572,159486559,2018-02-06 16:35:28,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-03-10.44.48.jpg,0OWign27FNoOxUrefqPwGQ==,US,,1517934928 159480572,159486985,2018-02-06 16:39:13,">>159486459 you're a bitch, go away.",,Anonymous,The Family.png,BU6kI/EGJ2edHDzsLCe7qg==,,,1517935153 159480572,159487112,2018-02-06 16:40:19,">>159486459 impossible, feelings of nationalism only fade away when the population do not stay the same. and even in the old united states, some states had wars for various reasons, it was all allowed, and worked fine. It wasn't until the war of northern aggression, and the subsequent stripping of state rights that all interstate wars stopped",,TPM,,,,,1517935219 159480572,159487208,2018-02-06 16:41:02,">>159486256 he's a crypto-fascist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517935262 159480572,159487249,2018-02-06 16:41:27,">>159480572 muh shekels",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517935287 159480572,159487344,2018-02-06 16:42:15,">>159485821 >a nigga that says ""the people (capitalism) should free the state from burdens, not the contrary"" nah... >>159485076 hm >>159486459 No, nationalism is incompatible with capitalism, not the other way around. You don't need a state to have a nation.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1517935335 159480572,159487387,2018-02-06 16:42:34,">>159487208 someone can't into logic, and the preservation of liberty",,TPM,Removenow.png,KzcYfh2rTTOnkd1KHwtT4w==,,,1517935354 159480572,159487514,2018-02-06 16:43:45,">>159480572 Libertarian right,",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517935425 159480572,159487712,2018-02-06 16:45:21,">>159487208 He's the one who uncompromisingly takes libertarian philosophy to its logical conclusion.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1517935521 159480572,159487811,2018-02-06 16:46:08,Anyone have a libertarian they want aesthetic made of?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1517935568 159480572,159487948,2018-02-06 16:47:29,">>159486117 Tucker you nigger I saw you waving an anarcho-communist flag with an obese socialist.",,Anonymous,17884475_1894436160793444_365280808382345394_n.jpg,0nG+8qe0YCbSj189wbqSdQ==,PL,,1517935649 159480572,159488103,2018-02-06 16:48:53,">>159486459 States are not compatible with nationalism. How do you define a nation? By force? We believe truly in free association, no spics and jews? Your call.",,Anonymous,1500079822946.jpg,qaAp02VGeGBenUdKI/vkfQ==,PL,,1517935733 159480572,159488722,2018-02-06 16:54:30,">>159487811 Walter Block, and some of the classical liberals maybe. Also Locke or Bastiat? Herbert Spencer or Wilfredo Pareto could also be worth one if you can find any cool pictures.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1517936070 159480572,159489015,2018-02-06 16:56:44,">>159486459 Nationalism only works with capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517936204 159480572,159489385,2018-02-06 16:59:58,">>159489015 This. The economic prosperity brought about by capitalism is what makes the nation great",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517936398 159480572,159489595,2018-02-06 17:01:47,">>159480572 The fundamental issue with libertarians is that they fail to understand the state and power. You are never going to get rid of the state, as any sort of a power vacuum will simply be filled by a new state which might call itself kingdom or corporation, while still being the same. The state merely is the largest local power, and represents the force with which its members can act. Therefore, you shouldn't think that the problem is inherent to the state, but rather to the way the state is organised.",,Anonymous,RichelieuRochelle.jpg,gTbczZxu8ui0utgq359jcQ==,FI,,1517936507 159480572,159489774,2018-02-06 17:03:20,">>159489015 that's just blatantly untrue",,Anonymous,1499033370985.jpg,14rrGh4SZXMR5zoEY8udEw==,US,,1517936600 159480572,159490343,2018-02-06 17:08:08,">>159489595 The state is just a very big gang, there is no rational argument to suggest power vacuums if you remove cancer. You replace it with voluntary security and protection. Like, omagah, have you even read Hoppah?",,Anonymous,hoppe_helicopter.jpg,OkvT4dUiQGq47O/SHr6R/g==,PL,,1517936888 159480572,159490435,2018-02-06 17:08:56,">>159483986 Minarchism will be a necessary stepping stone on the road to full liberty. You cant just destroy the government overnight. >>159486459 Freedom of association and freedom of exclusion will mean that if it is really optimal for people to live in ethnically homogeneous communities, they will have the freedom to do so. I myself hardly care about the specific ethnicity of people i am dealing with and living with, as long as those people are civilised and respect my individual rights. I dont believe in excluding people on the basis of skin colour. but discrimination on the basis of cultural values and competency does exclude the majority of negroes, mestizos, arabs, central asians, etc.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1517936936 159480572,159490910,2018-02-06 17:12:59,">>159490435 And minarchist believe that you can have small gov forever and ever, they don't talk of further shrinking the gov",,TPM,Y9wJdJIlBkwx7E7KZ0lrXbEgQ6kl0Qt96T4rIXAcp4U.png,cBRqIaRZIMgWls7R6/gaeA==,,,1517937179 159480572,159491077,2018-02-06 17:14:31,">>159490343 The issue is that you asume voluntary power to exist, even though it's an oxymoron. The dominant group, ie. the state will always have power to bend the will of other people, meaning that even if it is originally voluntary, it will eventually become involuntary. You're effectively describing an utopia, which is the exact same as now, with the benefit that somehow states can be voluntary. Kind of similar to saying that I want to have a world where there is water, but that it's impossible to drown. Or in other words, you want to have sometthing without all of its qualities.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517937271 159480572,159491721,2018-02-06 17:19:30,">>159490910 Minarchism is an idea thats easier to sell to normies due to it being less radical by nature. Certain views like necessity of having an army to protect your nations borders are very deeply entrenched in peoples minds, which makes it hard to sell full blown libertarianism to normies.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1517937570 159480572,159493172,2018-02-06 17:32:21,">>159491077 wrong my friend, there is a difference in what we are doing and what has always been done. in every society there was there was 2 things that we find unethical and would not do, if we were to say, get in control of a state tomorrow. 1)no taxation the biggest part of ancappa, would the removal of all taxation on the people and business. as you know taxation is theft, and the hallmark of an unjust state. 2)the abolishment of the monopoly of violence held by the state simply the erection of a private law society, the thinking man's solution to the 'monarchy as the only stable form of gov' idea. which means that while the land is privately owned by many small land owners, a few large owners, or one family. the men within the land of these people would be able, while abiding the home rules, if the owner doesn't just take up a position of 'final judge' which was most common historically, be able to practice private law, with their own churches, secular judges, shamans, private insurance agencies or whatever. with the enforcement of these things done by paramilitary branches of said groups, or by the local citizens, failing a sheriff of some kind, which at least in america, does exist in every county. if you haven't noticed, like true reactionaries, we truly aim to bring back 'ye olde' system of law and order, by bringing the law and thus defense back into the hands of people",,TPM,,,,,1517938341 159480572,159494055,2018-02-06 17:40:43,">>159491721 true dat, but the difference in minarchist and ancaps, is the belief in taxation;s necessity and the legitimacy of the compulsory nature of the state. the minarchist and the ancap might SEEM similar, in how they would handle government if they got in tomorrow, but our solutions to the idea of national defense and how to pay for it, differ like night and day, which is why minarchists are retarded",,TPM,19275206_1375866415815007_3905073750229760421_n.jpg,UIbRqYKaUYRrjBoGGnEOJA==,,,1517938843 159480572,159494288,2018-02-06 17:42:27,">>159488722 Here's what I came up with for Block. I hope you like it.",,Anonymous,glitch_art_20180206174010.jpg,uYTeJu9EFBwfzrBlxtUo5g==,US,,1517938947 159480572,159494369,2018-02-06 17:43:14,">>159494055 Sometimes you just have to be pragmatic and side with people you dont entirely agree for your cause.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517938994 159480572,159494879,2018-02-06 17:47:34,">>159493172 But now we get to the heart of the issue. First mistake that you make is that you assume that it's possible to retourn to the old system, yet avoid the results of the old system, namely what happens now. Also you're describing an idealised version of the past. Most societies have had a form of taxation, be it in the form of grain or military service. And also, private law hasn't truly existed either, as the local lord ultimately has had the final word. You couldn't simply say that you disagree with his law, except of course if you were more powerfull, but that just goes to show how some sort of power will always exist. In effect what you're doing is that you describe an ideal and fictional scenario, which hasn't happened, and which only exists in theory. If ancap was implimented irl, then it would quickly turn back into a state.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517939254 159480572,159494938,2018-02-06 17:48:09,">>159494369 we side with them sure, if it came to votes and what not. but we know that they would only get in the way when it came time for ancap reforms like the privatization of law and order, and the reformations to abolish taxation to exchange it with making the gove actually produce something worth paying for, be it citizens paying instead of taxes protection fees for the military making it a competitive service, or perhaps getting it into other goods and services that most people would feel essential; but something voluntary nevertheless",,TPM,,,,,1517939289 159480572,159495042,2018-02-06 17:49:00,">>159494288 Saved, thanks a lot.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1517939340 159480572,159495969,2018-02-06 17:56:49,">>159494938 People protesting against privatisation of law and order and abolition of taxation isnt going to be an issue. If basically everything is already privatised, taxes are very low and the government in place is rudimentary at best, nobody is going to protest against the remnants of the government being destroyed, even people who are minarchists now. Minarchists are just people who arent quite ready to accept beliefs, but the closer society actually gets to liberty, the less radical it will appear.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517939809 159480572,159496383,2018-02-06 18:00:11,">>159486459 Correct.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517940011 159480572,159497037,2018-02-06 18:05:58,">>159494879 you are wrong in saying i'm trying to simply get back to an emulating a mythical version of an old system, i merely mean it will resemble it enough to get us sympathetic with the monarchist crowds and romanboos since that was roughly the system of rome and old school feudalisms, but differs from rome's taxes and use of force to enforce laws on conquered peoples, and non citizens back in the homeland and how do i know it would not repeat the same mistakes of the old system and lead to greater centralization? because the foundation of society is different. in the old system you had it based around rulers, often with divine mandate' that were basically emulating old rome's taxation and federalized systems to the best of their, often limited, abilities. we are not trying to recapture the magic of the old days, but we realized that the old days didn't have such rampant problems with democracy/socialism/marxism, and all that's implied with it. and we want to fix our environment to remove such cancers and correct the mistakes that brought us here, without having to resort to a fascism or a system that will only betray its own people for votes and power. simply a private law society is the correction of the errors of the past ways and resurrection of local cultures and kinship among people. because the only way to have that is to remove what is toxic, namely democracy, and what it leads into, socialism, but without having to resort to repeating the same mistakes by starting back at a feudalism.",,TPM,,,,,1517940358 159480572,159497797,2018-02-06 18:11:42,">>159495969 I do hope that future minarchists wouldn't try to stop our end goal reforms for gov but the risk nevertheless is that a minarchist still would see the value in keeping the gov around, and unless we have a good ancap presence in the party of minarchist, or are another strong party. we will not see our goals done",,TPM,,,,,1517940702 159584568,159584568,2018-02-07 11:32:56,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1484429674775.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,,,1518003176 159584568,159584621,2018-02-07 11:33:41,">>159584568 PRAISE KEK!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! WITNESS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!",,Anonymous,,,,,1518003221 159584568,159584732,2018-02-07 11:35:03,,,Anonymous,1491341521023.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,,,1518003303 159584568,159584943,2018-02-07 11:37:21,>>159584732,,Anonymous,77fc74007920f597eb4658bdb665112a08304545170905814dcb3142af646ec3.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,,,1518003441 159584568,159585151,2018-02-07 11:39:32,>>159584943,,Anonymous,19275206_1375866415815007_3905073750229760421_n.jpg,UIbRqYKaUYRrjBoGGnEOJA==,,,1518003572 159584568,159585229,2018-02-07 11:40:26,>>159585151,,Anonymous,1490914594067.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,,,1518003626 159584568,159585941,2018-02-07 11:47:43,>>159585229,,Anonymous,hoppeworkoutdeskwhitebubble.png,rFuPYymaCNBbOS1igVgX7A==,,,1518004063 159584568,159586637,2018-02-07 11:55:47,">>159584568 As much as I hate lolbergs, bump for effort and social conservatism. Even completely free market would work in a moral society. No sage today.",,Sgt. Sage Allfields,,,RU,,1518004547 159584568,159586783,2018-02-07 11:57:25,">>159586637 appreciated",,Anonymous,1486888546459.png,453O33L9b7FWfsb/ss6F4A==,,,1518004645 159584568,159586812,2018-02-07 11:57:47,">>159584943 Why can't we just use VTOL aircraft? Or railways Or Canals",,Anonymous,Harrier.jpg,7U0NmmCjp90+F+v3fvIuAg==,,,1518004667 159584568,159586981,2018-02-07 11:59:35,"I'd like to read some ancap/libertarian theory. Any idea what to start with? Rothbard sounded like a cool guy, so do you know any intro-level Rothbard book?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1518004775 159584568,159587146,2018-02-07 12:01:32,The CIA has branded AnCaps as lolbergs. We're much more dangerous than Nazis but dumb frogposters stick to their failed ideology.,,Anonymous,sad-ancap.jpg,qoqWRyC5rqem1mTZ0JpHrQ==,US,,1518004892 159584568,159587299,2018-02-07 12:03:25,,,Anonymous,Juden.jpg,7TXcLGHXXw2qVKv2w2BvGQ==,,,1518005005 159584568,159587579,2018-02-07 12:06:23,">>159586981 You want to read >Anatomy of the State I suppose. >>159587299 There are A FEW good Jews. You just have to grow up and accept that.",,Anonymous,good jew.jpg,PFlyrnl/u1oQXzECZqKI1w==,US,,1518005183 159584568,159587685,2018-02-07 12:07:25,">>159586981 For a New Liberty by Rothbard and Democracy: the God That Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. These are two very fundamental anarcho capitalist books.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518005245 159584568,159588175,2018-02-07 12:12:48,">>159584568 Got some questions and please answer >was there any example of a ""Anarcho-Capitalist"" society in history? And if it was, was it successful and how long did it last? >Why so many people claim this type of anarchy is stupid and an oxymoron?Is it because Capitalism always require a state to enforce its ideas?",,Anonymous,,,VN,,1518005568 159584568,159588192,2018-02-07 12:12:55,">>159584943 Kek.",,Anonymous,frog maniac.png,LKQitO88XnOfcNt5MPZiNg==,US,,1518005575 159584568,159588292,2018-02-07 12:13:55,"https://youtu.be/TICdCM4j7x8 Every libertarian who wants to take action and secure a better future needs to watch this video. Hoppe is unique today in that he is a libertarian who actually says what truly must be done.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518005635 159584568,159588436,2018-02-07 12:15:44,,,Anonymous,18056823_1171606232948579_7402355606169333268_n.jpg,CUnsvd0Mb+xRyRixxG4tRg==,US,,1518005744 159584568,159588468,2018-02-07 12:16:04,,,Anonymous,Anticom Helo.png,6+3KyCzg+yfWY+9zKbsBvg==,US,,1518005764 159584568,159588604,2018-02-07 12:17:27,>>159584568,,Anonymous,Freedom to do right.png,tDlWenhjIKGW7AFzxy194g==,US,,1518005847 159584568,159588742,2018-02-07 12:18:54,>>159588604,,Anonymous,b38.jpg,F8T//cbvhtQrlRL71te+rw==,US,,1518005934 159584568,159588780,2018-02-07 12:19:17,>>159588742,,Anonymous,2015-03-18-05b9bae1_large.jpg,KuteKHP5tY2F9P/A7iqEZg==,US,,1518005957 159584568,159588789,2018-02-07 12:19:20,">>159588175 >was there any example of a ""Anarcho-Capitalist"" society in history? And if it was, was it successful and how long did it last? While not technically truly anarcho capitalist, the wild west was an interesting experiment and proved to be a pretty peaceful time with private security and private property rights playing a huge role. Also, Ireland was polycentric and anarchist for a thousand years. >Why so many people claim this type of anarchy is stupid and an oxymoron?Is it because Capitalism always require a state to enforce its ideas? It is the opposite. Capitalism requires as little government intervention as possible by its very nature. Anyone who claims this type of anarchy is stupid compared to other types of anarchy is a moron. Capitalism reflects human nature and, therefore, with no state to dictate the every day interactions between people, the tendency is capitalism. There is a reason ideas like communism require such aggressive state intervention and even still fail miserably.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518005960 159584568,159588818,2018-02-07 12:19:35,>>159588780,,Anonymous,Right-Wing Libertarian.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1518005975 159584568,159588856,2018-02-07 12:19:58,Is this the recreational nukes thread?,,Anonymous,ancap meme original.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,,,1518005998 159584568,159588895,2018-02-07 12:20:26,"As a fascist, I think that I'm a libertarian at heart, just very anti degeneracy and want my culture and race to survive Really what I think would be the best is social pushes against degeneracy rather than banning, much like how smoking was stopped",,Anonymous,1491853219410.jpg,X7mCWziKSsA4jWKELA22Jg==,US,,1518006026 159584568,159589524,2018-02-07 12:27:17,">>159588895 I believe that libertarianism and fascism can both serve to preserve our culture and be rid of degeneracy. I think fascism is the wrong way to go about it, but we both want a lot of the same things.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518006437 159584568,159589951,2018-02-07 12:31:40,"Can a libertarian be a nationalist or do these clash with each other, for example, the country believes in individual rights and free market, but will put his country first and support his/her's country's culture. Basically individual rights but still a feel for love of country and love for members of his/her's country.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518006700 159584568,159589987,2018-02-07 12:32:01,">>159588175 There is no ""True AnCap"" society. The closest example you would find one would be the United States under the Articles of Confederation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518006721 159584568,159589991,2018-02-07 12:32:05,Got an actual question for you guys. Is eugenics necessary in a libertarian society? Most normies want big government to do everything for them.,,Anonymous,frog.png,XdNSWYLVUawom6FdvIhEgw==,,,1518006725 159584568,159590358,2018-02-07 12:35:57,">>159589951 You can be anti-state and take pride in your soil. You can hate the involuntary society and love your people. Libertarianism is not anti-culture, just anti-state. Your government is not your culture.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518006957 159584568,159590456,2018-02-07 12:37:00,">>159584568 Why do you retards worship hoppe and always talk about physical removal? You realize that, if you gang up on a neighbor and throw him out of his house because you don’t like him, that’s a violation of his private property rights, makes you no better than a communist, and gives the neighbor every right to defend himself, right? wouldn’t it be better to just shun him rather than take physical action?",,Anonymous,,,,,1518007020 159584568,159590861,2018-02-07 12:41:00,">>159590456 If you acquire land through contractual trade by joining a community, you have joined a set of rules. If you break these rules, the community has the right to remove you. It doesn't have to be violent necessarily, Hoppe himself doesn't actually say that you need to immediately take violent action on this rule breaker. He has stated multiple times that societal shunning and ostracizing are good methods. This is all perfectly in line with private property and libertarianism as a whole.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518007260 159584568,159590994,2018-02-07 12:42:18,">>159589951 They clash a little bit, but I understand what you mean. For example, I my self am an American. After doing some traveling and reading international news. Do other country supports free markets and libertarianism more than the USA. The EU is slowly imploding on its self as it restricts it's people and markets with each new law. China almost has total control over its economy and uses it as a weapon, all the while regulating your daily life, how many kids you can have, and where you can live. Africa is a crumbling as more and more countries start genocide the white man away. The Middle East is restrictive in every sense and will literally punish you with death if you violate sharia law. The USA is far from ancap and even libertarian, but the reality is the most other countries are beyond fucked. My best bet is to stick with my country and support it as the rest of the world burns.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1518007338 159584568,159591040,2018-02-07 12:42:53,">>159588789 Mmm interesting. But how about the Great Depression? Wasn't it FDR's New Deal policies that helped the US overcome that instead of Herbert Hoover waiting for the market to ""fix"" itself?",,Anonymous,,,VN,,1518007373 159584568,159591293,2018-02-07 12:45:26,">>159589951 Yes you can be proud of your country and its culture while still being against the government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518007526 159584568,159591491,2018-02-07 12:47:20,Hoppean anarcho-monarchism when?,,Anonymous,anarho monarch.jpg,VrOAnygEoqAUboyJJzofhw==,,,1518007640 159584568,159591583,2018-02-07 12:48:18,">>159591491 How the fuck does that work",,Anonymous,confused boat.png,B44pXk7QMMx0gpqId/RomQ==,,,1518007698 159584568,159591816,2018-02-07 12:50:47,">>159591040 These are common misconceptions. https://mises.org/library/new-deal-debunked-again",,Anonymous,,,,,1518007847 159584568,159591880,2018-02-07 12:51:28,">>159591583 EVERY MAN A KING BUT NOONE WEARS A CROWN",,Anonymous,1200px-HueyPLongGesture.jpg,6wJ9afrNNsuLcEKkp2m3Tw==,SE,,1518007888 159584568,159592396,2018-02-07 12:56:49,">>159591040 How do you think the great depression started in the first place? Should have listened to Jackson.",,Anonymous,(((FED))).gif,dDDs+ulkcPPhuIyLLbdmaQ==,,,1518008209 159584568,159592489,2018-02-07 12:57:49,,,Anonymous,barehands.png,HtM1ApNv3M7/3etfG9ZZZg==,ES,,1518008269 159584568,159592528,2018-02-07 12:58:12,">>159591583 Hobbes lived through the English Civil War. The chaos convinced him that ""muh social contract"" was deeply flawed. He thus favored an Absolute Monarch who ruled for the people. He also supported the idea of individual rights, however. So if the Monarch was an asshole, he could be overthrown. Essentially, a dictatorship ruling with the consensus of the people, for the people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1518008292 159584568,159592622,2018-02-07 12:59:05,">>159592528 So a regular monarchy then.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518008345 159584568,159592666,2018-02-07 12:59:34,">>159591880 Huey Long: the great combination of Bernie Sanders, and Donald Trump.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1518008374 159584568,159592908,2018-02-07 13:01:57,">>159592622 Not really. He believed we all had rights such as Self Defence. So if the government went rogue, you were ENCOURAGED to overthrow it. No divine right here. Think Mandate of Heaven, but Mandate of the People instead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1518008517 159584568,159593495,2018-02-07 13:07:21,">>159584568 >Are non-white men entitled to libertarian rights? NO",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1518008841 159584568,159594800,2018-02-07 13:19:53,"An unbiased opinion here, but isn't nationalism in contradiction with free markets and individualism? It seems like Fascism is much more efficient than a system where you have your own people compete against each other in everything.",,Anonymous,1461809173707.png,pTUXJPas35aEdCBWmxytYg==,US,,1518009593 159584568,159594863,2018-02-07 13:20:27,">>159589991 Yes. Do you ever wonder why so many normies have such a negative gut-reaction to the very mention of ""libertarianism""? They are r-selected individuals. They cannot hope to compete in even a semi-free society, so they react violently to anyone, even a milquetoast conservative, who threatens their dependence on state power. I don't think it's out of the question to reply violently in kind. They are biological threats to our freedom, and so any kind of eugenics program (whether it be a free market or a fleet of helicopters) would be essential to establishing and maintaining a libertarian social order.",,Anonymous,1512238083158.png,mPx7QfYUsYBlR6XGjgQKyw==,US,,1518009627 159584568,159595783,2018-02-07 13:29:46,">>159594800 Free markets and individualism do not have to entail this. In fact, the freedom to discriminate and to associate/dissociate (crucial tenets to libertarianism) would only bring communities closer voluntarily. Cultures could stand together with no laws standing in their way and our people could thrive. It doesn't have to be individualism on all fronts, just with regards to the law. The law cannot tell you to be a collective but, in a libertarian order, individuals can collectivize in private communities.",,Anonymous,,,,,1518010186 159584568,159596298,2018-02-07 13:34:44,">>159587299 Wheres the argument bro",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1518010484 159584568,159596655,2018-02-07 13:38:06,">>159586637 >>> > Sgt. Sage Allfields (ID: YVdheHpy) 02/07/18(Wed)16:55:47 No.15 >social conservatism >Libertarianism pick one",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1518010686 159584568,159596827,2018-02-07 13:39:50,">>159584568 In ancap if the state is dissolved who guarandees property and human rights?",,Anonymous,,,,,1518010790 159584568,159597127,2018-02-07 13:42:52,">>159588818 wtf I love Libertarianism now",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1518010972 159584568,159598201,2018-02-07 13:52:44,">>159597127 welcome",,Anonymous,835acc381107493cb31f40139fddbee329795b4e5f9b16ecae42012e7c4136c2.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,,,1518011564 159584568,159598816,2018-02-07 13:59:19,">>159589991 Eugenics is no more 'necessary' than evolution, it's just the state of nature. Under conditions of traditional normality Eugenics is a natural propensity, it is the only way to survive hard times. To proliferate weakness requires special, artificial circumstances that by making the superior people give up resources and forcefully give it to people who should never have been born. Any situation which makes for dysgenics is essentially a bubble, and like all bubbles it eventually pops and normality/eugenics returns.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1518011959 161260068,161260068,2018-02-20 17:36:20,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1484429674775.png,immCxa3KDjlEVKUjzJ5CGg==,,,1519148180 161260068,161260371,2018-02-20 17:39:02,thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A,,Anonymous,,,,,1519148342 161260068,161260896,2018-02-20 17:43:24,"I want grow help to use as a natural plastic feedstock for 3D printing as a plastic, among other things, am I in the right place?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1519148604 161260068,161261039,2018-02-20 17:44:47,">>161260896 you sure are, friend",,Anonymous,19275206_1375866415815007_3905073750229760421_n.jpg,UIbRqYKaUYRrjBoGGnEOJA==,,,1519148687 161260068,161261147,2018-02-20 17:45:43,">>161260068 >lolbertarian sage >>161260000",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519148743 161260068,161261437,2018-02-20 17:48:32,">>161261147 fuck off nigger",,Anonymous,264b6e60b707cb529cf4531c4266d6c1fad3c97bb82f8cd60fffba127760c73b.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1519148912 161260068,161261446,2018-02-20 17:48:41,">>161260068 who is going to build the roads?",,Anonymous,1453423007455.jpg,ms15xmvIc8Pap5CuCAc0Iw==,US,,1519148921 161260068,161262176,2018-02-20 17:55:13,">>161260068 OP see >>161261446",,Anonymous,78a9b3_1433641.jpg,fyqnlV6PgLRRkMK5k4L9DQ==,US,,1519149313 161260068,161262454,2018-02-20 17:57:58,">>161261446 The same people who build them now.",,Anonymous,1510505595122.png,UGGAtAdCXLqn2dlzduTrVQ==,,,1519149478 161260068,161263012,2018-02-20 18:03:22,">>161262454 What the actual fuck goes through people's heads when making such pictures? Hmmm...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519149802 161260068,161263333,2018-02-20 18:06:11,">>161262454 agree with that my nibba",,Anonymous,1438842053622.jpg,5L5CwXxn7QQ3kchcZMV5Pg==,US,,1519149971 161260068,161263429,2018-02-20 18:06:59,">>161260068 Finally a good thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519150019 161260068,161263989,2018-02-20 18:12:09,">>161260068 Threadly reminder libertarians are r*ddit immigrants who are poisoning this board with their massive autism That is all, saging for good measure",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1519150329 161260068,161264134,2018-02-20 18:13:32,">>161262454 anon, would you get rid of the EPA, federal reserve, department of education, and most federal agencies? do you think total ancap is the redpill? do you think the government needed is protect life and liberty and that is it? also, what are your thoughts on taxes? should there be a flat tax, regressive tax, sales tax, or zero tax at all?",,Anonymous,2345245234524.jpg,teDJfxemF9VXvFHSrSpFEw==,US,,1519150412 161260068,161264326,2018-02-20 18:15:29,">>161260068 What about paleocons",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519150529 161260068,161264446,2018-02-20 18:16:31,">>161262454 I still can't get over the fact that it's not a lamia.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519150591 161260068,161264922,2018-02-20 18:21:17,Without the government who will gas the Jews?,,Anonymous,1518696067258.jpg,jk39EF5yVAV4YuE5SpJUVA==,PT,,1519150877 161260068,161264987,2018-02-20 18:21:57,">>161261437 >thinking natsoc is the same as socialism Wow lolbertardian, your lack of chromosomes are showing. https://www.britannica.com/event/National-Socialism",,Anonymous,1506738022338.jpg,wYgp54+MuouM9lrASGGglg==,US,,1519150917 161260068,161265119,2018-02-20 18:23:12,">>161261446 Hitler",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519150992 161260068,161265286,2018-02-20 18:24:36,">>161260068 (((libertarians))) dont belong on pol",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1519151076 161260068,161265635,2018-02-20 18:27:42,">>161261039 (((rothbard)))) (((mises))) GYS",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1519151262 161260068,161266110,2018-02-20 18:32:04,">>161264134 no taxes, no government, only free people",,Anonymous,,,,,1519151524 161260068,161266537,2018-02-20 18:35:46,">>161266110 basically its white americans not wanting to pay for black people. how about another solution?",,Anonymous,330px-Umschlagplatz_loading.jpg,IADvhxpeIYi4OPbABuHLvw==,GB,,1519151746 161260068,161266826,2018-02-20 18:38:19,"Stop being fucking autists lmaoooo Subhuman libertarians",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20180220-173332~2.png,a0BTKkTi7AoJ915GFawoGg==,US,,1519151899 161260068,161266848,2018-02-20 18:38:38,">>161266537 >white gibs nah, I like freedom",,Anonymous,,,,,1519151918 161260068,161267944,2018-02-20 18:48:58,">>161266826 According to MacLean, there is a connection between autism and libertarianism, and that connection is not feeling ""solidarity or empathy,"" and having ""kind of difficult human relationships sometimes."" The implication is that libertarianism is similarly cold and unfeeling, and attracts people who don't care about others. AHAHAGAGAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK AHAHAHAH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519152538 161260068,161268811,2018-02-20 18:56:53,>we need big government but don't worry it won't get corrupt and will do exactly what I want it to do,,Anonymous,,,US,,1519153013 161260068,161268932,2018-02-20 18:58:03,">>161267944 capitalism / libertarianism is the most compassionate system that exists. allowing for people to spend money as they please. no government intervention in the markets. business will have to create best product at the lowest cost, i don't know a more compassionate system than capitalism",,Anonymous,1438765863746.jpg,8pdriQwkFLYy8jFJdIgRAQ==,US,,1519153083 161260068,161269023,2018-02-20 18:58:59,Bump. About fucking time we had a LRG.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1519153139 161260068,161269168,2018-02-20 19:00:13,">>161268932 >Spending money >Compassion Neither one of those things has anything to do with one another but thank you autistic for showing me the lady was right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519153213 161260068,161269618,2018-02-20 19:04:25,,,Anonymous,At-the-heart-of-the.jpg,TBgGzT7N74pAIDudVP1qPA==,US,,1519153465 161260068,161269623,2018-02-20 19:04:27,">>161267944 Yes goy. Don't listen to economic principles and give up your rights so the state can control you. Don't you know believing in state solutions is the only way to show empathy?",,Anonymous,merlin_133932867_379515af-d214-478c-b20f-40ccab59de87-superJumbo.jpg,hjEZg97wbo58OYJfG5GDEQ==,US,,1519153467 161260068,161269748,2018-02-20 19:05:39,,,Anonymous,1491906160038.jpg,hiRP4lPTTkAf2UvjY0VF9Q==,US,,1519153539 161260068,161269876,2018-02-20 19:06:50,,,Anonymous,1475524819588.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,US,,1519153610 161260068,161269955,2018-02-20 19:07:26,">>161269168 >it doesn't matter how long wait times are or if care is rationed as long as the state is compassionate enough to give healthcare for everyone",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519153646 161260068,161270004,2018-02-20 19:07:44,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_01-25-12.00.19.jpg,qL8VuAzbeZIaHJsLbkSFvg==,US,,1519153664 161260068,161270061,2018-02-20 19:08:28,"just gonnna leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSI9NOHwr7o&list=PLTUor57XYYvuExxGUqsJ2MCWQokaXRDMb",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1519153708 161260068,161270144,2018-02-20 19:09:11,,,Anonymous,1509767446275.jpg,/wQOZ0+BMNYdmJESXhonJg==,US,,1519153751 161260068,161270303,2018-02-20 19:10:38,,,Anonymous,1505681310172.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,US,,1519153838 161260068,161270455,2018-02-20 19:11:59,,,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,US,,1519153919 161260068,161270589,2018-02-20 19:13:14,,,Anonymous,1497633692620.jpg,EdyXTi6ANSxwt6X/8c72Jw==,US,,1519153994 161260068,161270707,2018-02-20 19:14:28,,,Anonymous,1f57e7e54c94011745a4b3234560cad450f1b3445a930318f1b3a5ca65fad8f1.jpg,GkmsG75SgZgeiqgb9nOf0Q==,US,,1519154068 161260068,161270733,2018-02-20 19:14:43,">>161270589 >>161270455 >>161270303 >>161270144 based",,Anonymous,1513647731758.png,yL3Fwp6Qi5lsEAFAYleWKw==,,,1519154083 161260068,161270807,2018-02-20 19:15:33,,,Anonymous,1xHv9oc.jpg,5a3mYfx2/pDn86tYA+S2Ng==,US,,1519154133 161260068,161270939,2018-02-20 19:16:56,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-07-03.45.41.jpg,ShZ04W5wS22f39An5GjVyQ==,US,,1519154216 161260068,161270985,2018-02-20 19:17:17,"Do you guys believe that 911 was a inside job, orchestrated by Delta Airlines so they could make people stop useing American airlines and start using them. If you want to see proof ill leave a link. https://youtu.be/RM6EHcPFKCQ",,Greenbelt,N189DN_2_B767-332ER_Delta_MAN_24JUL00_(6751964351).jpg,fAtjw8bVycNaDqAnPj76hw==,US,,1519154237 161260068,161270997,2018-02-20 19:17:25,">>161261437 Reminder that national SOCIALIST Germany wanted everyone to be lazy, welfare scum who lived off the government.",,Anonymous,1505451341928.jpg,+lxcwyj9LwIzKJA/azYm+Q==,,,1519154245 161260068,161271091,2018-02-20 19:18:21,,,Anonymous,glitch_art_20180206174010.jpg,uYTeJu9EFBwfzrBlxtUo5g==,US,,1519154301 161260068,161271316,2018-02-20 19:20:35,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1519154435 161260068,161271390,2018-02-20 19:21:25,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-10-08.22.10.jpg,9FY9ET7EznZ0BR7IP99KrQ==,US,,1519154485 161260068,161271501,2018-02-20 19:22:17,,,Anonymous,20171107172402_glitch.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,US,,1519154537 161260068,161271649,2018-02-20 19:23:51,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_09-02-09.19.43.jpg,aWyZKSfRNM0sUE3hHCYfuw==,US,,1519154631 161260068,161271770,2018-02-20 19:24:59,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502913433000.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,US,,1519154699 161260068,161271855,2018-02-20 19:25:45,,,Anonymous,1503090990358.jpg,JbEH1tEuru4Molp9JnuRqw==,US,,1519154745 161260068,161271939,2018-02-20 19:26:35,">>161260068 Rothbard and Hoppe are cool but you guys are gay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519154795 161260068,161271953,2018-02-20 19:26:45,">>161260068 Liberty is the truth, it is the evolved form of politics. Larpers refuse to engage with it because it is bulletproof, you can't disprove it.",,Anonymous,1488736771638.jpg,lxgfyEEBwLjMGjovYvsx9Q==,,,1519154805 161260068,161271989,2018-02-20 19:27:11,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1519154831 161260068,161272041,2018-02-20 19:27:42,Libertarianism will never work the way we want as long as we have degenerates and supporters of degeneracy are the majority,,Anonymous,,,US,,1519154862 161260068,161272164,2018-02-20 19:29:06,">>161261147 Fuck off this thread",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519154946 161260068,161272171,2018-02-20 19:29:09,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_12-26-07.10.52.jpg,egUdmeJt7SVwBjl4Xv2AYw==,US,,1519154949 161260068,161272212,2018-02-20 19:29:31,">>161272041 Explain. Libertarianism guarantees that the weak are culled.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519154971 161260068,161272312,2018-02-20 19:30:30,">>161263989 Bump to counter your sage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155030 161260068,161272348,2018-02-20 19:30:49,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-09-04.47.15.jpg,OF/TAZvcDQ/62BSoz+Xa+w==,US,,1519155049 161260068,161272356,2018-02-20 19:30:55,">>161263333 Checked. This meme captures the real issue with privatizing roads. I am sympathetic to libertarianism. But I'm wondering with regards to road, how would roads be paid for? I know that suburb could get away with gravel, however how many people would want to downgrade from statist asphalt to gravel? I would like to here some possible ideas.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519155055 161260068,161272409,2018-02-20 19:31:29,">>161272212 This fake sense of ""libertarianism"" is killing us I support but shit like being able to start your own business and private property and ""Government fuck off reeeeee"" but sexual degeneracy should be socially unacceptable",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155089 161260068,161272430,2018-02-20 19:31:39,,,Anonymous,chart123.png,pf0hwzoh/NmqtG7j6ck9Dw==,,,1519155099 161260068,161272432,2018-02-20 19:31:39,">>161264922 Nobody. The upside is you get to control your own life as does everyone else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155099 161260068,161272438,2018-02-20 19:31:43,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-07-12.46.23.png,VMPXSTzhnoXQWlxSIkgdlA==,US,,1519155103 161260068,161272530,2018-02-20 19:32:41,">>161272409 Kissless virgin wants white sharia because the only pussy he can get is at gunpoint.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155161 161260068,161272585,2018-02-20 19:33:13,">>161272409 Ok so make it socially unacceptable, that has nothing to do with government. Under libertarianism you would be allowed to ostracize whoever you want, refuse to hire them or do business with them",,Anonymous,,,,,1519155193 161260068,161272618,2018-02-20 19:33:32,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-05-01.24.55.png,O76DP1t23pzLZHGMuJrCyA==,US,,1519155212 161260068,161272668,2018-02-20 19:34:04,You wouldn't want a monopoly on roads. Does that mean that there would be loads of different roads leading to the same destinations?,,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519155244 161260068,161272690,2018-02-20 19:34:14,">>161272041 At least in libertarian world the degenerates are smart and won’t fuck with you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155254 161260068,161272729,2018-02-20 19:34:38,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_10-22-05.35.01.png,/bs7bttwhNpkNYUwomwErQ==,US,,1519155278 161260068,161272764,2018-02-20 19:35:07,">>161272668 That wouldn't be very efficient, the free market is efficient, government isn't",,Anonymous,,,,,1519155307 161260068,161272813,2018-02-20 19:35:34,">>161272668 You can be a minarchist in cases like this imo. Roads should all be toll roads and the taxes should be paid back though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155334 161260068,161272840,2018-02-20 19:35:54,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_09-18-07.26.01.jpg,q4oi0iM72LCBnCCLZRNRHw==,US,,1519155354 161260068,161272868,2018-02-20 19:36:12,">>161272530 >>161272690 >t. sexual degenerates >>161272585 Yeah, I don't think governmental force would be necessary, but whatever is going on right now isn't working",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155372 161260068,161272937,2018-02-20 19:36:53,>>161260068,,Anonymous,Untitled-1.jpg,SQWw1hnLXVCpVb8DRuamQw==,US,,1519155413 161260068,161272955,2018-02-20 19:37:05,">>161270807 HOLY FUCK LEFTSHITS BTFO!!!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1519155425 161260068,161273013,2018-02-20 19:37:37,"Well-armed Militia Regulator, reporting for Free Market booty.",,Anonymous,1519092142795-pol.jpg,z9boq+9oS2qyW+oJhbeeIg==,US,,1519155457 161260068,161273016,2018-02-20 19:37:38,">>161272764 I am assuming the price of using a privately owned road would be quite high if people had no other alternatives",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519155458 161260068,161273042,2018-02-20 19:37:51,">>161272409 >but sexual degeneracy should be socially unacceptable Why? Is it hurting you specifically faggot? Just stop jacking off.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519155471 161260068,161273057,2018-02-20 19:38:02,">>161272868 Bet your ass I’m a degenerate. South America is an excellent “””tourism””” destination. You should live a little.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155482 161260068,161273070,2018-02-20 19:38:11,"Heads up. Michigan is planning a 2nd amendment march on March 2nd 2018 from 10am until 2pm. We should push this shit and make it a nation wide event. It would be a great push back against the people who seek to restrict our rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519155491 161260068,161273081,2018-02-20 19:38:18,,,Anonymous,BASED RON PAUL.jpg,AYec7xP9UAgG3TZ6Flx6zw==,GB,,1519155498 161260068,161273118,2018-02-20 19:38:39,">>161272409 I agree. I just did the political compass and because I was pro death penalty, harsh on criminals, against sexual immorality it put me authoritarian even though I should immense support for the free market, property rights and private business.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519155519 161260068,161273301,2018-02-20 19:40:33,">>161264134 Drain the Alphabet Agency Swamp. Delete them ALL. No exceptions.",,Anonymous,5215e1b301cd00a3a510c3d205d52600.jpg,R6eRK8wcv6LOcdoqpKEoPw==,US,,1519155633 161260068,161273325,2018-02-20 19:40:49,">>161272409 >but sexual degeneracy should be socially unacceptable Western governments work to make sexual degeneracy even more socially acceptable. Only a society that hates degeneracy will push against it, and restricting degeneracy through regulation will only embolden the degenerates.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155649 161260068,161273391,2018-02-20 19:41:35,">>161273016 If you have a problem with toll roads then pay a company to make a road that isn't a toll road.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519155695 161260068,161273421,2018-02-20 19:41:55,">>161273016 The current system of roads we have is actually really inefficient in stupid when we think about it. I assume it's the same in Australia as in Iceland, as in anywhere else. You have houses built so far away that the government has to build an asphalt road to it, and maintain it. Since free markets tend to towards efficiency, and our current systems does not, there would be some transition difficulty. This is just an idea as to how roads would might be laid; is that large 4 lane roads are built, and on the side the road companies own the plot of land that they lease out, as well as use of the road. Also, in and about homes you could have communal roads.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519155715 161260068,161273456,2018-02-20 19:42:11,">>161273325 8=========D AW YEAAAAH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155731 161260068,161273591,2018-02-20 19:43:34,">>161273421 The problem is that somebody is gonna own the road. I’m a minarchist and even I see road building as a legit role of govt",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155814 161260068,161273661,2018-02-20 19:44:13,">>161273391 Then we would have multiple roads leading to the same destinationl?",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519155853 161260068,161273808,2018-02-20 19:45:33,">>161273325 >>161272409 That's true. Sexual degeneracy is bad because of the consequences, and in a democracy politicians shield degenerates from their consequences for votes. Sodomy and homosexuality are immoral and bring a plethora of health problems and rare STD's which requires millions of dollars to research and combat. The drugs used to treat them cost in the hundreds of millions. The state offers money to scientist to ""research"" cures and offers ""free public healthcare"". Premartial sex and sleeping around with anyone would result in pregnancy, and without a welfare state single mothers would have to: i. not open their legs to everyone ii. use contraception iii. raise their kids and live in abject poverty, while constantly having to live of charity and hand-outs. Ultimately, the stigma around divorce and single motherhood would return.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519155933 161260068,161273824,2018-02-20 19:45:43,">>161273591 Have you ever driven on a freeway where there's many businesses on both sides to pull off to? Businesses have an incentive to create freeways so potential customers can easily get to them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519155943 161260068,161273883,2018-02-20 19:46:18,">>161273661 That's bad how? Ultimately you can't predict what would happen with certainty.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519155978 161260068,161273916,2018-02-20 19:46:41,,,Anonymous,1506269344159.png,dUGUjX7on6GkPz5GH90h6w==,US,,1519156001 161260068,161273924,2018-02-20 19:46:46,">>161273661 If you don't want multiple roads leading to the same destination then don't pay companies to make multiple roads to the same destination. The best solution will always win out, it's the nature of the free market.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519156006 161260068,161274017,2018-02-20 19:47:37,"What would a world of ""competing roads"" actually look like?",,Anonymous,Libertarian roads.png,2yEEUkFtrnbt6xIwguS/OQ==,US,,1519156057 161260068,161274079,2018-02-20 19:48:19,"i tried to make a thread asking this last night but it got ignored >ever since i joined pol everyone claimed they were former libertarians >said they no longer remained libertarians because libertarianism does not help whites only hurts them >discover paleolibertarianism >find out even that kike rothbard wanted to help perserve whiteness what is pols reaction to this",,Anonymous,screenshot.394.jpg,4hQzC6s+naGwuxdeVbMvmA==,,,1519156099 161260068,161274189,2018-02-20 19:49:19,Where my Bastiat bros at?,,Anonymous,bastiat-quote.jpg,zREj6YZNX3cIky9DX3Jeog==,,,1519156159 161260068,161274256,2018-02-20 19:49:56,">>161274079 >find out even that kike rothbard wanted to help perserve whiteness B A S E D",,Anonymous,Murray Rothbard 576x720.jpg,bV/O92dfxRwIVy2FFN7Eqw==,US,,1519156196 161260068,161274333,2018-02-20 19:50:42,">>161273883 My original question was if there would be different roads with different owners leading to the same places and I wanted to know if that would be the case. Ancapistan is an absurd and intriguing place",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519156242 161260068,161274365,2018-02-20 19:50:56,">>161274017 It'd look like the five road owners all deciding to match their toll prices to 5 dollars a mile",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519156256 161260068,161274382,2018-02-20 19:51:09,">>161274017 It would probably look like multiple towns connected, tunnels, highways, dirt roads, airports, train lines, helicopter pads, teleporter stations etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519156269 161260068,161274485,2018-02-20 19:52:05,">>161273924 I'm leaning in the direction of multiple roads on that one",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519156325 161260068,161274507,2018-02-20 19:52:19,">>161274017 we dont exactly know >>161274079 libertarianism is meritocracy. losers and degenerates hate meritocracy because being failures they'll fail. given that pol is made up of losers and degenerates naturally an order whereby you have nothing propping up or hindering you from success, its all pretty much up to you. its really funny when supposedly white nationalists complain about capitalism when in white heterosexuals always rise to the top in free markets. its only by government force through quotas and other such things that whites are repressed.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519156339 161260068,161274583,2018-02-20 19:53:04,">>161274485 The fact that you think it's such a problem means it won't happen. Only one road would be used and any other attempt at an inferior system would not be supported by the market.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519156384 161260068,161274587,2018-02-20 19:53:06,">>161274333 I am not a prophet. It seems likely.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519156386 161260068,161274588,2018-02-20 19:53:06,">>161274189 Hey",,Anonymous,PicsArt_08-06-12.24.19.png,hbCBkS+ZzS6+zWTBHiUW6g==,US,,1519156386 161260068,161274593,2018-02-20 19:53:09,">>161274017 Realistically at this point in time the largest provider of public roads would be collections of businesses that have an interested in people coming and moving around their premises but there's obviously plenty of variations and other people that can build them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519156389 161260068,161274595,2018-02-20 19:53:11,">>161273661 We already do (unless there's very little travel between the two destinations). The best part is that these roads will have different pricing structures, so you can choose between taking the tollway or go down a slower freeway depending on your needs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519156391 161260068,161274604,2018-02-20 19:53:13,>>161260068,,Anonymous,ride the tiger.jpg,XD/hatpY0QLe4htsB9ioSQ==,GB,,1519156393 161260068,161274672,2018-02-20 19:53:54,">>161274583 >what is people trying to dodge traffic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519156434 161260068,161274677,2018-02-20 19:53:58,">>161274588 Nice, we candlemakers should petition the government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519156438 161260068,161274703,2018-02-20 19:54:10,">>161274017 i suggest you use google map and set some direction, you will get 3-5 tracks with similar distance. now i guess we should all use the same one becouse it's the most efficient one. it will surely make driving more comfortable for everyone",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1519156450 161260068,161274745,2018-02-20 19:54:40,">>161272356 Talk to your neighbors. What kind of road do they want? How much is everyone willing to contribute? How much does it cost to build the road? Can you find a cheaper deal from another provider? Pay the contractor and they build the road. Statists make it seem like this process is magical, mysterious or beyond the ability of the average citizen, when it is as simple as choosing the toppings for a pizza delivery to a party. Government breeds helpless laziness and fear; a self-fulfilling desire to be cared for in an infantile manner.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519156480 161260068,161274758,2018-02-20 19:54:52,">>161274583 No competition is not supported by the consumers",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519156492 161260068,161274836,2018-02-20 19:55:43,">>161274745 >Talk to your neighbors. Already beyond the average citizen my friend",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519156543 161260068,161274921,2018-02-20 19:56:34,">>161272356 Check out the rebel road builders in Australia. Where there is demand the market tries to meet it with supply if what is being demanded is of value. Moving between places seems like a pretty valuable and important thing for people, communities, businesses and property owners to want.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519156594 161260068,161274928,2018-02-20 19:56:38,Ban people from pumping their own gas and people will believe themselves incapable of operating the complex machine,,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519156598 161260068,161275074,2018-02-20 19:58:02,">>161274758 I'm pretty confident people will crowdfund roads and they would be the same as we see today but more efficient. It's not going to be an infinite toll road dystopia, people will just cut out the middle man of government and pool their money themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519156682 161260068,161275265,2018-02-20 19:59:54,>>161260068,,Anonymous,HumeDaddy.jpg,7B63UJhfzVJoM0/7D/4KlQ==,,,1519156794 161260068,161275287,2018-02-20 20:00:04,"Noticed a lot of arguing about roads, reminded me of this",,Anonymous,muhroads.jpg,Cm0kGFpoxJKLw6mFWYaZXA==,US,,1519156804 161260068,161275288,2018-02-20 20:00:05,">>161264987 What's your response to the other 7/8ths of the pictograph",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519156805 161260068,161275384,2018-02-20 20:00:54,">>161275074 So the roads would belong to the 'funders' of the road? How will they deal with non contributors who want to use the roads? Ban them access or tolls?",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519156854 161260068,161275394,2018-02-20 20:01:02,">>161275287 gold",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519156862 161260068,161275461,2018-02-20 20:01:46,">>161275384 They would just let non-contributors use the road.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519156906 161260068,161275485,2018-02-20 20:01:58,">>161275384 Who knows? But it would seem people who aren't funders would need access. Say guests, delivery trucks, garbage trucks, etc. So access would be permitted to everyone.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519156918 161260068,161275590,2018-02-20 20:03:07,">>161275461 I wouldn't. I paid for that shit and them using the roads will increase the need for upkeep = $",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519156987 161260068,161275633,2018-02-20 20:03:34,">>161274836 >Learned Helplessness It's amazing what people can accomplish when no one else will do it for them. Or, if they genuinely prefer, perhaps there will be no road. It's not my place to decide that for anyone else.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519157014 161260068,161275654,2018-02-20 20:03:47,">>161275590 see >>161275485",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519157027 161260068,161275712,2018-02-20 20:04:22,">>161272356 Private business would invest in building roads to sell access to like private highways/freeways, investors would provide the capital. Private businesses that need to ship products around the world and can make their own supply chains cheaper simply investing in infrastructure will have financial incentive to build said infrastructure and sell/rent it. Anyone building new buildings and new areas will factor in the cost of also building access roads when the building is created. Most of the time these costs would simply be absorbed into big business and cause their products to be slightly more expensive in order to offset the costs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1519157062 161260068,161275734,2018-02-20 20:04:42,">>161275590 You would have to build toll booths and hire people to run them and go through those toll booths yourself. People will just want the roads made and to be able to use them in the most convenient way possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519157082 161260068,161275759,2018-02-20 20:04:59,">>161275633 Molyneux made this point in his recent video on the Florida HS shooting. The FBI was too preoccupied with other meaningless shit to stop this guy, while everyone who knew was pointlessly waiting on the government to respond.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519157099 161260068,161275832,2018-02-20 20:05:41,">>161275384 We are not economic dictators the people themselves decide that's what property rights and the market means. You could easily imagine a multi-lane road where founders or contributors get the fast lanes and there would be one free slow lane etc. Or as pointed out earlier, businesses build roads for 1/10th the cost of that the state currently does and they want people to come to their shopping centers and office builders etc. A dozen or 100 businesses with a body corporate can, have and will always do things like this for common areas. You have an imagination right? What would your preference be? Have you seen the rebel road builders and their like, that go around fixing and building roads that the state refuses to build or look after? Have you seen dirt roads? Airports? Train lines? Buses? Walking? Riding? Toll Roads? Free roads? Business roads? I mean this really is a non-issue isn't it, if I can come up with all this shit off the top of my head what do you think millions of people can come up with?",,Anonymous,,,,,1519157141 161260068,161276332,2018-02-20 20:10:29,">>161275832 I usually end up seeing 2 problems for every solution i come up with. It's almost as if it's impossible to plan out the economy in it's enirety *looks at the socialists*",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519157429 161260068,161276589,2018-02-20 20:12:50,">>161273661 Also remember that the industry we're talking about is getting from point A to point B. There's more competition in that than providing a road to drive your car on. If a ""monopoly"" wants to raise their tolls to insane prices, then he'll be competing with the train company, the small airplane company, or even driving off road for a bit. The simplest road is a trail, and as it's more beaten the easier it is to travel. The more outrageous the companies tolls are, the more likely people will find alternatives to not pay it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519157570 161260068,161276777,2018-02-20 20:14:57,">>161276589 Or everyone could just get helicopters and never have to bother with the thought of roads again",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519157697 161260068,161276824,2018-02-20 20:15:28,">>161276589 > The more outrageous the companies tolls are, the more likely people will find alternatives to not pay it. Also large roads, as envisioned by me and >>161275712, would be propped up by multiple investors, and the heads of the companies, the CEO, are liable if the company isn't generating profits. It would be extremely unlikely, since the road companies would have massive interest repayments to pay off, and couldn't waste time fucking people over with high toll fees. There is more money to be made in volume.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1519157728 161260068,161276949,2018-02-20 20:16:45,">>161276777 If that was affordable to everyone then why not?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519157805 161260068,161277149,2018-02-20 20:18:45,">>161276949 The market will provide",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1519157925 161260068,161279319,2018-02-20 20:40:20,,,Anonymous,freedom_to_do_right.png,tDlWenhjIKGW7AFzxy194g==,GB,,1519159220 161260068,161279464,2018-02-20 20:41:49,">>161265635 Gill yourself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519159309 161260068,161279993,2018-02-20 20:46:58,,,Anonymous,1519127682810.png,MKwhe/VjlRcc45bwBO79eQ==,US,,1519159618 161260068,161280427,2018-02-20 20:51:24,">>161265286 >>161265635 This board was a direct inheritance of the Ron Paul ReLOVEution of 2008, though. (Yes, new>4-c-h-o-n-new>pol, don't deny it).",,Anonymous,1481265154303.png,K9iH+OC7iPP4TEosjyLUNw==,BR,,1519159884 161260068,161281187,2018-02-20 20:56:41,">>161279993 Kek, it's true",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519160201 161260068,161282576,2018-02-20 21:10:02,">>161271855 I want better.",,Anonymous,IMG_1469.jpg,QtnK/P8b0D9Gd3huJEqchQ==,US,,1519161002 161260068,161282876,2018-02-20 21:13:19,">>161271091 Who is the gunt in the pic?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1519161199 161260068,161283061,2018-02-20 21:15:17,">>161282876 walter block",,Anonymous,,,,,1519161317 161260068,161283865,2018-02-20 21:23:11,">>161276332 lol that's true. That's why I'm still amazed when I watch that I, pencil cartoon on youtube. The market and humanity really amaze me how everything just spontaneously clicks together in a direction of satisfying the needs of society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519161791 161260068,161284575,2018-02-20 21:30:09,">>161283865 People fail to realize how complicated something like making and selling a pencil or building a railroad is, and nothing can make it happen as efficiently (be it in production or allocation) as capitalism. It really is amazing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519162209 161260068,161284842,2018-02-20 21:32:51,">>161260068 We gotta a fight... For are right... To have Assault weaponssssssssssssssssssssssssss",,Anonymous,jkgDUxF.jpg,A+Kqb3Qq4qtWXaJQd1FijQ==,US,,1519162371 161260068,161285128,2018-02-20 21:35:37,">>161284575 Not to mention just how difficult it is to gather information centrally and then making good accurate decisions before that information changes without a price mechanism. Absolutely astounding. It's like comparing the amazon rainforest with an amateur garden. Every time they think they're ripping out a weed they're carelessly chaking seeds that sowe the next crisis and disrupting delicate ecosystems they couldn't hope to understand.",,Anonymous,Master-Of-Praxeology.jpg,CxwcL8lV5nVti8YSVtymsA==,,,1519162537 161260068,161286126,2018-02-20 21:45:41,">>161285128 And all decisions are made with efficiency in mind because scarcity directly affects prices. How can any other system compete?",,Anonymous,300px-HansHoppe.jpg,v5EzeMNc8afT/sUGpbHRAQ==,,,1519163141 161260068,161287972,2018-02-20 22:03:41,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1504535969000.jpg,uRDNRYfpXAnIsqkFwYlaeQ==,US,,1519164221 161260068,161289399,2018-02-20 22:17:41,,,Anonymous,3065322-Janusz-Korwin-Mikke-Quote-Socialism-is-a-monster-which-will-die.jpg,JPyj5axWbNkVRzWxAsJAtw==,US,,1519165061 161817856,161817856,2018-02-24 23:08:58,"This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Website: libertarianright.org >Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X REQUIRED READING: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1492825335386.jpg,LjZLVwzoVuBILX6L+TT9/A==,,,1519513738 161817856,161817931,2018-02-24 23:09:53,,,Anonymous,1499380010753.png,KB92jS4kCUPRwKr5HDXnyA==,US,,1519513793 161817856,161817964,2018-02-24 23:10:19,,,Anonymous,1511211059296.png,My+n0yos0LvP/kLQh3Owjw==,US,,1519513819 161817856,161818825,2018-02-24 23:21:01,Libertarian Socialism > Free Market Libertarianism,,Anonymous,,,,,1519514461 161817856,161818926,2018-02-24 23:22:17,">>161818825 rev up the helis",,Anonymous,,,,,1519514537 161817856,161819011,2018-02-24 23:23:18,">>161818926 Anarchist until I'm not. Just call yourselves fascist already.",,Anonymous,,,,,1519514598 162755453,162755453,2018-03-04 17:31:01,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownershi>>124205675 p, individual liberty and the natural order. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_crest.png,odibbxgK7OBD7UFBScvERg==,GB,,1520184661 162755453,162755655,2018-03-04 17:32:46,">>162755453 For Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",,Anonymous,ancapstudies.jpg,7HU8QWOp/+CHcPyJHni3Jw==,US,,1520184766 162755453,162755670,2018-03-04 17:32:53,What do you guys think about cute lolis?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1520184773 162755453,162755818,2018-03-04 17:34:20,">>162755670 They're implicit as fuck",,Anonymous,,,,,1520184860 162755453,162755827,2018-03-04 17:34:23,">>162755453 reminder: all libtardian threads are started by commies and get hijacked by anti-constitutional shills so wary >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law read all his works on bastiat.org",,Anonymous,,,,,1520184863 162755453,162756198,2018-03-04 17:37:38,>>162755670,,Anonymous,removeyourself.png,rM9LtNLIDaRqWNQB8V0GoQ==,US,,1520185058 162755453,162756256,2018-03-04 17:38:06,"bump Commies and nazis get the helicopter",,Anonymous,1509250622551.jpg,ukjf9OaD2LDIGtCoW3ywdQ==,,,1520185086 162755453,162756517,2018-03-04 17:40:10,"why are you still a libertarian? become a neoreactionary",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520185210 162755453,162756525,2018-03-04 17:40:13,">>162756256 Any attack on socialism is an attack on the collective well-being of the White race.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520185213 162755453,162756716,2018-03-04 17:41:51,">>162756517 Neoreactionaries are just lukewarm monarchists who have lost to superior third-position populist ideologies such as National Socialism, and as such have no place on this board.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520185311 162755453,162756947,2018-03-04 17:43:46,">>162756517 We're hard right wing libertarians, we already are reactionary. BTW the Libertarian Party has been coerced by jews and pedophiles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KWzm9bs8Lw&feature=youtu.be #LPisDeadToMe >>162756525 Pic very related. Fuck socialists. Stop stealing from working whites.",,Anonymous,monkey.png,c+EYRFkFyO+hPeNgt9eFxw==,PL,,1520185426 162755453,162757075,2018-03-04 17:44:50,">>162756716 NRx just believes monarchy is better than democracy, that doesn't mean monarchy is that great. It's just a way of pointing out how utterly horrible democracy is. Nazi LARPing is just cringeworthy",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520185490 162755453,162757296,2018-03-04 17:46:46,Friendly reminder that libertarians never accomplish anything,,Anonymous,,,US,,1520185606 162755453,162757767,2018-03-04 17:50:44,">>162756947 We clearly didn't rape Poland enough.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520185844 162755453,162757975,2018-03-04 17:52:25,">>162757767 >we top kek",,Anonymous,1517885815247.jpg,/7AJpOmI7KZ61IAeMy1i5Q==,PL,,1520185945 162755453,162757993,2018-03-04 17:52:37,">>162757075 So what you're saying is you have no real ideas at all? How predictable. Take the red pill, faggot, volkish socialism is the only way forward. We'll just FORCE the bourgeoisie to work for us, make them repay their debt to the worker until we can have a true classless society where race is the only quality in humans.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520185957 162755453,162758139,2018-03-04 17:53:38,">>162757767 It really looks like you value the ""collective well-being of the White race"" after all, rape is just a sign of love",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520186018 162755453,162758145,2018-03-04 17:53:42,">>162757975 You won't be laughing once we slam the wooden gas chamber door on your subhuman ass, Polack. You're not even White, real White countries embrace some form of socialism for their people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186022 162755453,162758199,2018-03-04 17:54:17,">>162757993 Go suck Karl Marx's cock you larping flaggot.",,Anonymous,An Idea.jpg,aWyZKSfRNM0sUE3hHCYfuw==,PL,,1520186057 162755453,162758208,2018-03-04 17:54:22,">>162758139 Poles aren't White, and yes, rape is superior to sex in that it creates children in place of infertility. Read Evola, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186062 162755453,162758305,2018-03-04 17:55:13,">>162758199 Karl Marx was whiter than you, Jaciek. That oughtta suck. You'll be hanging from a street sign, if you can afford those that is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186113 162755453,162758314,2018-03-04 17:55:19,">>162758145 just a reminder, it's halfwits like you that's the reason the Right has been losing for 400 years. NOBODY likes you, and your ideas lead to ruin.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520186119 162755453,162758363,2018-03-04 17:55:43,">>162755453 sage libertardianism is dead",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186143 162755453,162758476,2018-03-04 17:56:42,">>162758314 Good thing the (((right-wing))) is a false narrative sold to you by capitalists. Socialism is a good thing, and if you faggots can't realise it on your own, maybe it should be rammed into you with the butt of a rifle.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186202 162755453,162758589,2018-03-04 17:57:42,">>162758363 If you niggers ever spew any arguments I might actually listen to you but you all seem subhuman low IQs who cannot have a proper debate. >>162758305 Keep supporting that central bank you larper.",,Anonymous,jewlar.jpg,KSQKrDlyRAo0OWhClzpb9g==,PL,,1520186262 162755453,162758660,2018-03-04 17:58:22,">>162758363 Sieg Heil, brother. It was a scam all along, built by faggots who didn't want to pay their taxes and propagated by shabbos goyim like Ron Paul, who'll die an old wretched failure in a year or so.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186302 162755453,162758769,2018-03-04 17:59:07,">>162758476 If you think right-wing=capitalism then you're clearly a communist and you've clearly never read Evola. I mean fucking hell, are you literally 12 or 13 years old? I know its supposed to be ironic but I honestly can't fathom men into their 20's sitting at a computer, typing this shit, posting it, having a chuckle to themselves. It gives me the fear to be honest.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520186347 162755453,162758821,2018-03-04 17:59:32,">>162758589 A central bank is the ideal institution to support the (((material well-being))) of the people, until we transition into a fully nationalist, (((money)))-free society. Take a hint from the NazBols on this one, they've got it right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186372 162755453,162758900,2018-03-04 18:00:11,">>162758660 >Ron Paul >Failure Top kek. He literally spawned the alt-right. Know and respect your elders you fucking kike.",,Anonymous,So to speak.jpg,QXG0W7mxdnA6s/TdSy75+w==,PL,,1520186411 162755453,162759063,2018-03-04 18:01:24,">>162758769 Good, right-wing failures like yourself should be afraid of a truly anti-capitalist, anti-traditional ideology like National Socialism. We are the only way to the future, and for that we must do away with old-fashioned concepts like monarchy. No hierarchy but racial hierarchy, to say otherwise is degenerate (((individualism))).",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186484 162755453,162759193,2018-03-04 18:02:25,">>162759063 A monarchy can last hundreds of years, how much did the 3rd reich last for? You people are anti-civilization itself. You are anti-hierarchy.",,Anonymous,1517882468586.gif,mpFQtOqae/e8D3WiH3yx7w==,PL,,1520186545 162755453,162759203,2018-03-04 18:02:31,"okay he's trolling lmao what board are you really from man",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520186551 162755453,162759269,2018-03-04 18:03:02,">>162758900 The alt-right gets the rope too, too much (((lolbergtardian))) sentiment goes on there. Any trace of (((capitalism))) must be uprooted, any whiff of (((individualism))) must be destroyed and any little piece of (((tradition))) must be tread upon (heh) to pave the way toward the future of National Socialism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186582 162755453,162759331,2018-03-04 18:03:39,">>162759193 The Third Reich is eternal and to say otherwise is heresy against the race, you subhuman filth.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186619 162755453,162759705,2018-03-04 18:06:30,">>162756716 Hitler and Stalin were both basically monarchs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520186790 162755453,162759918,2018-03-04 18:08:12,">>162759705 Nononono. There is one very significant difference in those two forms of authoritarianism. Fascism is public ownership of the state. Monarchy is private. Thus monarchy will always be superior.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1520186892 162755453,162760041,2018-03-04 18:09:10,">>162759705 Not really, absolute rule isn't a core part of monarchy, thus it needs to be done away with. That, and the hereditary aspect of it - the only attachment a Leader should have is to his people, not to his family. I'd even propose to build a new capital city for the Reich, somewhere on the Dogger Bank in the North Sea would be a good spot for creating an artificial island with the seat of the Leader built upon it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520186950 162755453,162760628,2018-03-04 18:13:43,">>162759918 Shut the fuck up ahahaha, go eat a kielbasa or something you utter nigger (((Sobieski))) betrayed Europe, when it was closest to being conquered by an actual goal-oriented faith since the days of (((Charles Martel))). (((Christianity))) is weakness and a rot on the White race, and it just so happens that (((Poland))) is as (((Christian))) as they get. Islam is better than that filth. (((Pilsudski))) is another bastard that ""saved"" European (((right-wing))) governments from the spread of a worker-oriented worldview, and will rot in his grave for it. Why are (((Poles))) such a mistake? We'll need to correct it sooner or later. It's as easy as re-opening the camps.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520187223 162755453,162761000,2018-03-04 18:16:16,">>162758769 Right wing is capitalism, wtf are you talking about?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520187376 162755453,162761056,2018-03-04 18:16:34,libertarians are just asking to get racewar'd. You are either with us or against us. NatSoc or non-white,,Anonymous,,,,,1520187394 162755453,162761114,2018-03-04 18:16:59,">>162760628 I just love echoes so much, it's truly a wonderful invention of modern National Socialists to combat the enemies of the White race.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520187419 162755453,162761160,2018-03-04 18:17:20,">>162755453 neoliberalism general. that's what you people are, neo liberals/globalists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520187440 162755453,162761232,2018-03-04 18:17:54,">>162761056 Exactly! Volkish socialism is the only way forward, you cannot withstand the might of National Socialism if you're not a socialist, so you best get with the pogrom, nerds.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520187474 162755453,162761402,2018-03-04 18:19:14,">>162761160 No, neoliberals pretend to be socialist to fool the working man, whileas these vermin stand in open defiance of the power of the State controlled by the White working class.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520187554 162755453,162761517,2018-03-04 18:20:12,">>162761000 no, it isn't. right-wing, as historically understood, is to be loyal to the crown, to value hierarchy, tradition, order, religion. capitalism is fundamentally liberal. there are liberals who lean right, sure. just as there are liberals who lean left. but liberalism is not rightism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520187612 162755453,162761782,2018-03-04 18:22:27,">>162761517 There is no hierarchy other than the Leader above all, and then Whites > Muslims > Honoraries > Other Asians > Native Amer*cans, South Indians and Aboriginous People > Niggers > Chr*stians, get it through your head",,Anonymous,,,,,1520187747 162755453,162761824,2018-03-04 18:22:55,">>162761517 That's more societal. Maybe pre Adam Smith, but that's irrelevant. Hierarchy forms naturally within capitalism, just voluntary. Other social aspects are just dependent on how authoritarian the society is. And can't really be enforced in an ancap society anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520187775 162755453,162762107,2018-03-04 18:25:03,">>162761824 I hate Amer*cans so much. You'll bow to socialism sooner or later, too, and then we'll go to work on instilling true White volkish values in you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520187903 162755453,162762294,2018-03-04 18:26:31,">>162761782 i'll humour your LARPing who should ""the Leader"" be in the 21st century? >>162761824 societal leanings is exactly what the left-right divide is about. i still wouldn't call capitalism a right-wing thing. Some of the biggest capitalist organisations, Google, Facebook, Goldman Sachs, clearly lean to the left on most if not all of the important social issues.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520187991 162755453,162762503,2018-03-04 18:28:09,">>162755453 Toss me the discord link.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1520188089 162755453,162762592,2018-03-04 18:28:42,"DAILY REMINDER LOLSPERGTARDIANS DONT UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS 101 austrian economics debunked (redpill overdose) TRIGGER WARNING: FACTS AHEAD!! tl;dr >gold standard is unstable and not a viable currency, susceptible to fraud and dependent upon mining >they are openly anti-scientific, rely on ""praxeology"", they are philosopher at best >dumb ideology funded by koch brothers think tanks (CATO) to convince ignorant armchair economists >every prediction they had is proven wrong >they business cycle theory is wrong >they don't use scientific method, no maths, no statistics, nothing, just speculation >only used as political rhetoric by ron paul to rile up his gadsen-flag hillbilly voterbase >all of peter schiff's predictions are wrong, he has been preaching doomsday for decades >mainstream economics agrees with less than half of their policy >literally no respects austrian economists today, abandoned as early as 1950's >only good thing to come out of it was Hayek, who wasn't even Austrian since he rejects praxeology. He contributed to price theory, and added to the socialist calculation problem. Also his philosophy is superior and way more nuanced compared to mises/rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188122 162755453,162762617,2018-03-04 18:28:57,">>162762592 top global econ journals, ZERO positive austrian results, all negative! outdated! wrong! pseudoscience! https://academic.oup.com/qje/search-results?page=1&q=austrian&fl_SiteID=5504&allJournals=1&SearchSourceType=1 https://academic.oup.com/restud/search-results?page=1&q=austrian%20economics&fl_SiteID=5508&allJournals=1&SearchSourceType=1 https://www.aeaweb.org/journals/mac/search-results?within%5Btitle%5D=on&within%5Babstract%5D=on&within%5Bauthor%5D=on&within%5BjelCode%5D=0&journal=6&q=austrian+economics https://www.aeaweb.org/journals/jep/search-results?within%5Btitle%5D=on&within%5Babstract%5D=on&within%5Bauthor%5D=on&journal=3&q=austrian+economics http://www.igmchicago.org/igm-economic-experts-panel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_economics ihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_neoclassical_synthesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_consensus_of_economics http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00220480309595230 https://mainlymacro.blogspot.nl/2017/04/economics-is-inexact-science.html https://thesis.eur.nl/pub/39717/Master-Thesis-Nicolas-Bernerman.pdf https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1530995 https://recoveringaustrians.wordpress.com/top-ten-austrian-economic-lies-and-mistakes/ http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/whyaust.htm https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/top-ten-lies-and-mistakes-of-austrian-economics/ https://hallingblog.com/2015/09/08/praxeology-an-intellectual-train-wreck/ https://www.reddit.com/r/badeconomics/search?q=austrian&restrict_sr=on http://www.jstor.org/stable/2138469 http://www.econlib.org/library/Topics/College/marketfailures.html https://www.colorado.edu/economics/morey/4545/introductory/marketfailures.pdf https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1py0a8/eli5why_is_the_gold_standard_bad_feel_free_to/ https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-criticisms-of-the-Austrian-school-of-economic-thought https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/eej.2012.32",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188137 162755453,162762638,2018-03-04 18:29:05,">>162762503 >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D from the OP",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520188145 162755453,162762648,2018-03-04 18:29:13,">>162762617 you are getting (((nosed))) lolberts https://www.economist.com/news/business/21711504-his-theory-management-inspired-austrian-school-economic-thought-worked-wonders want to learn REAL economics? no problem, open source PDF book https://openstax.org/subjects/ Blogs (neurtal-center right) http://marginalrevolution.com/ https://uneasymoney.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/wiki/blogs http://econlog.econlib.org/",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188153 162755453,162762789,2018-03-04 18:30:12,">>162762617 >argument from authority >democrat meme flag replacement /pol/ has really been shit lately huh",,Anonymous,costimpliedbychoice(1).png,EOipyeLmwdLNJwFcpHLhlg==,US,,1520188212 162755453,162762816,2018-03-04 18:30:26,">>162762294 They benefit from it, but we also have a high degree of socialism in this country. These niggers have been getting a free ride of corporate subsidizes for decades.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520188226 162755453,162762846,2018-03-04 18:30:34,">>162756256 Implying you still have an helicopter, and you are not in a camp, comdemned for degenerate behaviour and lack of loyalty to the State and the Race. Oh, you have a gun ? Cute. Seized for the war effort. And you add 20 years to your time for trying to shoot a civil servant.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520188234 162755453,162762852,2018-03-04 18:30:38,>>162762789,,Anonymous,bodyandtimescarcity(2).png,Y5uSyOgcQL6XoakCpEKHig==,US,,1520188238 162755453,162762920,2018-03-04 18:31:03,">>162762294 Heimbach, hands down. He's unlucky enough to be stuck in Weimarica, but he's a real man fit to lead a real movement, and as such should be hailed by White nationalists worldwide. We can't compromise - it must be an ethnically Aryan German person (check), pagan or Muslim (Orthodox are basically Muslims so it's good), with no prior history of associating with Jews (not so fast Kike Enoch or Bitchard Spencer). Since Heimbach is pretty much the only one not into having Jew girlfriends or mentors, he's good to go.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188263 162755453,162763010,2018-03-04 18:31:45,">>162762846 What the fuck is this dumb larping? >Hahah, Im going to make up imaginary stories where all my guys win and you LOSE because you SUCK!1!!",,Anonymous,ownershipmustbeestablished(3).png,upJL211PV06GsClBPJ7DYw==,US,,1520188305 162755453,162763139,2018-03-04 18:32:46,">>162758821 jew shill",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188366 162755453,162763234,2018-03-04 18:33:29,">>162762648 Keynes is pretty much the only semi-decent non-NatSoc economist, and a lot of NatSoc economics is similar to his own. We'll all ditch that after we've achieved full automation and a classless, money-less society, of course, but in the meantime the State (that is to say, the Leader) MUST have FULL CONTROL over the nation's resources and working power. This is where Heimbach comes in - he's VERY socialist, just what we need.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188409 162755453,162763245,2018-03-04 18:33:31,">>162755453 >hurr i believe in anarcho capitalism >durr the internet is being censored by private entities and jewish pressure groups! the internet is anarcho capitalism, and whaddaya know, the result was anarcho tyranny. inb4 >not real ancap >hasnt been tried >it would be great if it wasnt for kikes >just need a higher iq, highers trust society or any other horseshit.",,Anonymous,1519810224108.jpg,ezFlnTvGP7mUfgRUHQvCaQ==,US,,1520188411 162755453,162763346,2018-03-04 18:34:24,">>162762920 >Heimbach LMAO >with no prior history of associating with Jews he LITERALLY had a Jewish girlfriend",,Anonymous,Heimbach and Goldenberg.png,X3tTD7oK99735EcGW2t4SA==,GB,,1520188464 162755453,162763417,2018-03-04 18:34:52,">>162762920 >>162763346",,Anonymous,Heimbach and Goldenberg 2.png,MXo1WFr2AGkMSw0ZLZn2Og==,GB,,1520188492 162755453,162763467,2018-03-04 18:35:17,">>162762846 This, the traitors among the citizens are chronically unable to damage the state in any way. Oh, and by the way, (((Koresh))) and his (((Christian))) sheep deserved to burn as soon as the thought of resisting the government crossed their minds. Anybody want a barbecue?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188517 162755453,162763588,2018-03-04 18:36:13,">>162762920 what did spencer have to do with jews other than having a jewish teacher? what a stupid argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520188573 162755453,162763623,2018-03-04 18:36:31,">>162763139 No, I believe that'd be you. Abolition of the central bank would mean the Leader wouldn't be able to control ALL of the nation's activity, that's (((individualistic))) and downright criminal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188591 162755453,162763635,2018-03-04 18:36:35,">>162758660 Im sorry that youve got to be robbed to give any of your wealth to causes you believe in, but Im perfectly capable of willingly giving my money where I think it should go - that's party of why the robbery of it is so fucked. Especially since it definitely isn't all going to places it should go. Forgive me that I don't want to pay for Senator Joe Shekelborg to purchase some nice Haitian children to fuck, or for La Quinisha's ten kids.",,Anonymous,democracydistorsconservatism(hoppe).png,s6qfwknhVutdrrCzNqgLOg==,US,,1520188595 162755453,162763737,2018-03-04 18:37:15,">>162763010 Thats not what americans do all the time ? Fapping on superheroes then getting owned by iraqi guerilla ? Or vietnamese ? Or afghan ? Or... You get the meaning. LARPing. From the guys who got their history from hollywood and have an history channel explaining bigfoots are footmen of flying saucers...bad choice of fight my man. Truely.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520188635 162755453,162763774,2018-03-04 18:37:38,">>162763245 Socialism isn't Jewish, you kike liar. Bourgeoisie nationalists like yourself get the rope too, only National Socialism has shown any results. You WILL submit to the will of the worker.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188658 162755453,162764025,2018-03-04 18:39:22,">>162762920 Holy shit Im fucking dying, you think that fat pathetic pig should be the new leader of the glorious fascist state? God I cant even picture how pathetic you are That's the thing about all you dumb fucking national socialists, you are pathetic terrible people who project your sorry state onto the rest of humanity - you think because you need some dictator's cock up your ass to behave like a decent human being, everyone else does too! A man capable of running himself would never be so desperate for a strong leader to have control over his life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520188762 162755453,162764037,2018-03-04 18:39:25,">>162763346 >>162763417 Are you implying Heimbach is a faggot? And such terrible taste as well, I mean, look at the kike holding the flag, I bet not even his (((mother))) thinks he's handsome, LMAO",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188765 162755453,162764091,2018-03-04 18:39:46,">>162762294 >Some of the biggest capitalist organisations, Google, Facebook, Goldman Sachs, clearly lean to the left on most if not all of the important social issues. Those companies do engage in capitalism, but they're not promoters of capitalism. Firstly because free market capitalism is not really well-liked by the majority of their audience, so even if they were pro free market capitalism, they wouldn't be public about it. Secondly because free market capitalism doesn't benefit the big guy as much as corporatism does. Being able to lobby a government is way more efficient than competing in a free market once you're big enough.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188786 162755453,162764103,2018-03-04 18:39:51,This is now a natsoc thread. You are under an invasion.,,Anonymous,8709798._UY400_SS400_.jpg,9Qw0dHRSUmnJtU36RTs69g==,FR,,1520188791 162755453,162764237,2018-03-04 18:40:55,">>162763588 (((Spencer))) is a Jew himself, and a CIA plant. Plus, he too isn't socialist enough - a bourgie ""nationalist"" like many others before him, all FAILED to produce any results, of course. We need ETERNAL results for ETERNAL ARYAN VICTORY!",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188855 162755453,162764298,2018-03-04 18:41:20,">>162762789 >hurr durr theres evil conspiracy that prevents retards like peter schiff and tom woods from getting into academia You are anti-empirical and deny science. Trailer trash brainlet cuck faggot lmao. muh praxx praxx! >hah you think you can point to PHYSICISTS? APPEAL TO AUTHRORITY! SPHERE-EARTHERS BTFO",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188880 162755453,162764396,2018-03-04 18:42:02,27/76 posts are by a communist nigger larping as a Nazi in /lrg/. Really makes me think!,,Anonymous,think.jpg,rajIzSZ+tfLTNvDdwTqVhg==,US,,1520188922 162755453,162764399,2018-03-04 18:42:05,">>162763635 Any refusal to pay for the worker's welfare will be met with a firing squad. Can't have rotten (((individualists))) in our classless utopia, luckily your (((kind))) isn't good at blending in.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188925 162755453,162764492,2018-03-04 18:42:49,"They are the panzer elite ! born to compete ! Never retreat ! Ghost division Leaving our dead ! Allways ahead ! Fed by your dread !",,Anonymous,tiger_tank.jpg,8TFPEsftcq120WneH/I73Q==,FR,,1520188969 162755453,162764518,2018-03-04 18:43:02,">>162764396 he's just underage",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520188982 162755453,162764537,2018-03-04 18:43:11,">>162764103 (((Charlemagne))) was a faggot, but at least his precursors built what amounts to the first central bank of Europe, so he wasn't as bad as the others.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520188991 162755453,162764662,2018-03-04 18:44:10,">>162764298 Holy shit, you literally cannot argue without fallacies",,Anonymous,1493993226750.jpg,066YJcEQYoIrSVN/wlV9HA==,US,,1520189050 162755453,162764675,2018-03-04 18:44:17,>Having a rest before the next assault,,Anonymous,1520028899521.gif,3dhU9m6S1FdzoHm75CoRHA==,FR,,1520189057 162755453,162764688,2018-03-04 18:44:25,"Libertarianism and Anarchism are poisons invented to destroy civilization. Materialism is a cancer. Only a corporatist nationalism can save the white race and the west. Everything else will just create more problems. Also, sage.",,Anonymous,1.jpg,3bxUc6uHAhydloV3wapeag==,,,1520189065 162755453,162764774,2018-03-04 18:45:04,">>162764399 >our classless utopia I am laffin! Fuck, kid, Id rather shoot the types who think its okay to straight rob people.",,Anonymous,kickthembothout.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,US,,1520189104 162755453,162764782,2018-03-04 18:45:08,">>162763245 >internet is anarcho capitalism >subsidize",,Anonymous,1510297673149.jpg,GJnv+u2Tzrx3ngo8reAtYA==,US,,1520189108 162755453,162764851,2018-03-04 18:45:36,">>162764025 Heimbach isn't fat, you fucking retard. Just saying this should land you in a forced labour camp. I bet you also think that Stahlhelms must be made of steel; well, if the Leader wears one made of plastic, then he disproves your heresy in one fell swoop. Let me let you in on a secret - the truth is the matter of what the Leader says. If Heimbach says something, it becomes true, as he is the manifestation of the natural order and the natural order is just an extension of him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189136 162755453,162764894,2018-03-04 18:45:55,Sieg heil !,,Anonymous,giphy-1.gif,IlEudguyP0UrsvrgNgocoQ==,FR,,1520189155 162755453,162764950,2018-03-04 18:46:23,">>162764688 Materialism is cancer, but you've got no argument. Libertarianism provides all the tolls humanity needs to succeed in the fullest",,Anonymous,freedomtodoright.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,US,,1520189183 162755453,162765014,2018-03-04 18:46:51,">>162764688 (((Corporatism))) is a puppet of the (((capitalists))). Embrace socialism or meet your fate. Wasn't (((Riviera))) executed by the State? He deserved it, what a faggot LOL",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189211 162755453,162765190,2018-03-04 18:48:08,Strenght in unity,,Anonymous,4fb674134cbdd5ac0cf7e52527fe57f8.gif,T7Z0E0y91awM9+UlJ/5X+A==,FR,,1520189288 162755453,162765192,2018-03-04 18:48:08,">>162764851 Funny definition of natural order that you have, when the natural order means one dude can declare things to be True which might directly contradict reality, but then it magically becomes true. How can you ever listen to yourself and not realize your cultish insanity?",,Anonymous,FreeToDoRight.png,Okh0nz2vw2aJ49Le7dWQeg==,US,,1520189288 162755453,162765209,2018-03-04 18:48:17,">>162755453 >libertarian >idolizes Pinochet, an authoritarian dictator choose one",,Anonymous,1502504835227.jpg,9xPASnJ9jFNrLcKzHGUDvg==,,,1520189297 162755453,162765239,2018-03-04 18:48:28,">>162764851 amazing",,Anonymous,jej.jpg,efNPCRRo7pZRjpzV8HJfDg==,GB,,1520189308 162755453,162765258,2018-03-04 18:48:40,">>162764894 Quit LARPing, the French are barely even White. We crushed you in 1940 and we'll do it again, and this time we won't even let you speak the (((romance))) abomination of a language that is French. Any deviation from the Nordic ideal will be met with a hail of bullets and a stream of delousing gas, Pierre, ANY.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189320 162755453,162765427,2018-03-04 18:49:57,">>162765192 The Leader is the only legitimate entity beyond the (((material))) world of illusions, and as such has the final say on how anything should be done. Any action not explicitly endorsed by the Leader should be met with a hail of gunfire.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189397 162755453,162765572,2018-03-04 18:51:06,">>162765258 I hate frogs but it's retarded to call them almost non-white because they're degenerates.",,Anonymous,1503299813294.jpg,p/COsJ/Gi98FzV4wRYGChQ==,,,1520189466 162755453,162765639,2018-03-04 18:51:29,">>162765239 Blinded by the radiance of the Leader, are you? Read SIEGE and you'll know all you need to know about the (((right-wing))).",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189489 162755453,162765783,2018-03-04 18:52:39,">>162765572 You'll get your own share of the rope when the day comes. Denial of the obvious is the highest degeneracy there is!",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189559 162755453,162765825,2018-03-04 18:52:57,">>162764537 A faggot. Kek. He was a fucking warlord. And ruled his kingdom himself. Drop this flag, you are not worthy of it. Yet. You need to study more. And the 33rd among the last defenders of berlin. If you harbor the swatiska, you need to lear its history son.",,Anonymous,b0d5fc1031ce4df990e8769f1fc6abeb.jpg,cfwiXRQlLKEP3kr+sQIt/A==,FR,,1520189577 162755453,162765842,2018-03-04 18:53:05,">>162765427 You are insane beyond repairing, hang yourself so you can be in the real non-material world with your True Spiritual Leader Christ, I cant believe that everyone here are actual Nazis, this must be leftist trolling",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520189585 162755453,162766077,2018-03-04 18:55:07,">>162765825 I think you should learn the history of the German boot being crammed so far up the (((French))) ass, the tip of it kicked your front teeth out from the back. You should really speak with more respect when dealing with your superiors, or I'll send you to inspect the bottom of a well, head-first, with no rope this time for a change.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189707 162755453,162766130,2018-03-04 18:55:30,">>162765427 >we You nevet crushed anyone fat NEET. You cower in your basement and act tough. Its simple to spot subhuman : the more edgy you type, the more likely you are a fat faggot. For you, the trend is 120%.",,Anonymous,1520148116827.jpg,q2iyrlyJwcBTpC2deQR/Jg==,FR,,1520189730 162755453,162766183,2018-03-04 18:55:56,">>162765842 No, National Socialism really is THIS extreme. Anyone saying otherwise is really just either deceiving you to further our goals, or doesn't understand the ideology and thus isn't fit to live.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189756 162755453,162766218,2018-03-04 18:56:12,">>162765783 How is it obvious that the french are barely white? They have a rich white culture and have proven themselves to be proud europeans. I don't care they fought against the nazis, a lot of white countries did.",,Anonymous,1507314578302.jpg,XVHY7cy4nAN2SA67upDILg==,,,1520189772 162755453,162766286,2018-03-04 18:56:49,">>162766130 The French are already to blame for not letting Europe become Muslim and thus not fall prey to a weak cult like (((Christianity))), so you don't get to speak.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189809 162755453,162766346,2018-03-04 18:57:23,">>162766077 You should learn to type because i did not understood half of it. But i get it. You are an oven dodger. Show your flag, so i can laugh.",,Anonymous,1520157638288.png,1fXa/r4WroKJgHq4OyHAKw==,FR,,1520189843 162755453,162766369,2018-03-04 18:57:32,">>162765842 Kys nigger",,Anonymous,A425E44E-A25E-461B-A2B5-CCF9CCBE18F9.jpg,oyAdMUREFnVlgY7f86FOKg==,US,,1520189852 162755453,162766530,2018-03-04 18:57:48,">>162766218 No White country fought against the NATIONAL SOCIALISTS, (((Nazi))) is a JEWISH SLUR AIMED AT PEOPLE WHO WISH TO CREATE A PARADISE FOR THE WHITE RACE.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189868 162755453,162766604,2018-03-04 18:58:18,"A Critique of Liberal Ideology By Alain de Benoist https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/05/critique-of-liberal-ideology/",,Anonymous,1.jpg,Bm5kplki0mkfuZDEXBntkA==,,,1520189898 162755453,162766609,2018-03-04 18:58:21,">>162765842 I cant believe you're actually autistic. There are no Nazis on this board any more than trump is protectionist (he's free-trade), 95% of the alt right nazis will embrace whatever is the least [politically incorrect] thing, and if (((they))) quit banding together to fight Nazis, then the so-called nazis will join them in the capitalist live-and-let-die utopia of our individualist future. 4chan is the perpetual antagonist, it becomes the monster you need right now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189901 162755453,162766677,2018-03-04 18:58:53,">>162766286 I get it. Ahmed. Mamadou. YOU ARE A FUCKING SHITSKIN, OR WORSE, A RACE TRAITOR. Leave now or prepare for spam untermensh.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520189933 162755453,162766775,2018-03-04 18:59:33,">>162766346 The ONLY flag I hail is the Swastika, a true Aryan symbol of purity, strength, and all that we stand for. You aren't flying it, which only tells me one thing: you're the oven dodger, and we'll teach you a whole new kind of surrender when we're done with you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520189973 162755453,162766827,2018-03-04 19:00:01,">>162766530 You are not allowed to talk untermensch. Pic related, its you. Go back.",,Anonymous,1520202274017.jpg,WtSNtRlFbAGt5HPmOoaAnw==,FR,,1520190001 162755453,162767113,2018-03-04 19:01:16,">>162766775 Which one are you ? Pic related",,Anonymous,c41.jpg,YF9e9DWq4xHWYdAfMZBO1A==,FR,,1520190076 162755453,162767182,2018-03-04 19:01:51,"I don't understand how people think a natsoc government would be >no rights at all >state mandated train rides Its literally just the Nordic system, but without refugees or immigrants.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190111 162755453,162767190,2018-03-04 19:01:53,">>162766604 To be honest, Marxism was honourable in its worship of the worker and rejection of (((Christianity))), as well as hierarchy. For this, socialism will remain a CORE PART of our worldview, and any rejection of it will be met with the cannon of a tank aimed at the offender's chest.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190113 162755453,162767334,2018-03-04 19:03:09,">>162767190 You LARP, but honestly, which one of pic related are you ? Because you seem to have the same IQ",,Anonymous,1520149386170.jpg,OkLvPA+QpLIm2HnUuNJbJw==,FR,,1520190189 162755453,162767338,2018-03-04 19:03:11,">>162766677 Your weakness does not trouble me, Ahmed Al-Jean-Pierre. Go ahead and spam all you want, it's your grave, not mine (implying anybody'll dig you a grave, lmao)",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190191 162755453,162767394,2018-03-04 19:03:47,">>162767334 Is that Mali or France? What's the difference, anyway?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190227 162755453,162767489,2018-03-04 19:04:42,">>162767334 >>162767394 look how he recoils",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190282 162755453,162767550,2018-03-04 19:05:15,">>162767338 I am used to dig graves. Not myself, desu. I am good at watching people dig their own. Like you.",,Anonymous,541f2ecb9bd961f4a1afea27af6e3fef.jpg,lSo1dsduzJ/dq5/pcBQ0tg==,FR,,1520190315 162755453,162767676,2018-03-04 19:06:16,">>162767550 Wouldn't have guessed that you'd be adept at such a thing, seeing as the French have a history of winning wars on the homefront... Oh wait, never mind. LOL",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190376 162755453,162767911,2018-03-04 19:08:16,">>162767550 >>162767676 frog boi BTFO",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190496 162755453,162767950,2018-03-04 19:08:33,">>162767489 Triggered. Triggered little LARPer. And out of wits. Hint: i am done with you. You are pathetic. The laughingstock of this thread. You are neither clever, educated or funny. As a natsoc, i tell you: you ate an untermensh. And so coward you cannot show your flag on a anonymous vietnamese basketweaving forum. Kek. Good night. Sad to have been owned by everyone.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520190513 162755453,162768050,2018-03-04 19:09:25,">>162767950 AHAHAHAHAHAA LOOK HOW INJURED HE IS",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190565 162755453,162768236,2018-03-04 19:11:02,">>162768050 Stop projecting. And, just for info. Its what 10yo say. Pathetic. Untermensh.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520190662 162755453,162768369,2018-03-04 19:12:13,">>162768236 Suck my dick Also why the fuck did I just get 2 ""road"" captchas in a row lmao Ironic, they could save other generals from roads, but not themselves",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190733 162755453,162768616,2018-03-04 19:14:07,">>162768369 Why ? Because you failed the first. AHAHAHAHAHAHA Pathetic. Untermensh. You really work hard to prove you are a pieve of shit, don't you ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520190847 162755453,162768621,2018-03-04 19:14:10,"I think the faggot's gone now Vrug tell you to stop beating meat to picture of naked woman on cave wall",,Anonymous,varg grug.png,HYDVGPXErfqMpf1cGuO03A==,,,1520190850 162755453,162768815,2018-03-04 19:15:42,">>162768616 I can hear him chewing the keyboard as I type this, fellas. Should I stop turning his mother's anus into what looks like the front part of a blowhorn and tell him to behave himself? >another road captcha",,Anonymous,,,,,1520190942 162755453,162768918,2018-03-04 19:16:39,">>162768621 Ahahahahahaha >now that i believe the froggy is gone i can act tough And look like a retarded caveman. Man. You are unique. With you, the memes write themselves. You are the ultimate piece of trash.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520190999 162755453,162769007,2018-03-04 19:17:31,">>162768918 quit it back there",,Anonymous,,,,,1520191051 162755453,162769030,2018-03-04 19:17:46,">>162768815 You failed another one ? Come on, its not that hard grug. Even somali manage to pass it.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520191066 162755453,162769066,2018-03-04 19:18:04,">>162769007 You wish grug",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520191084 162755453,162769245,2018-03-04 19:19:49,">>162769030 >>162769066 Didn't you tell me you were done with me like 20 posts ago? Typical French faggots, can't finish shit. Can't have a final solution if you can't put together enough agency to stop feeding the trolls.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520191189 162755453,162769304,2018-03-04 19:20:20,"Oh, and now that we're on the front page - Read Democrussy",,Anonymous,ancap reading list short.png,6LEor8KJYYZXOiK9DknvLQ==,,,1520191220 162755453,162769484,2018-03-04 19:21:36,">>162769245 Hey, we never know when to surrender ( pun ! Pun ! ) but you are so funny and stupid i think i will play with you until i get bored",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520191296 162755453,162769724,2018-03-04 19:23:22,">>162769484 >you are so funny and stupid i think i will play with you until i get bored So what you're saying is, I'm your penis? That's an odd thing to say.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520191402 162755453,162769809,2018-03-04 19:24:08,">>162769304 >he has not understood the thread has been deserted and he is now the plaything of a sadistic smug baguette",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520191448 162755453,162769893,2018-03-04 19:24:51,">>162769809 Putting nipple clamps on your sister doesn't count as sadism, Abdullah.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520191491 162755453,162770004,2018-03-04 19:25:45,">>162769724 Oh ! Oooh ! It was almost funny. But no. Muhdick ate nigger tiers untermensch.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520191545 162755453,162770191,2018-03-04 19:27:12,">>162770004 sic semper niggeris",,Anonymous,,,,,1520191632 162755453,162770213,2018-03-04 19:27:26,">>162769893 >and he continues. I like that submissive attitude with a bit of rebellion. Does your memeflags change with your moods ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520191646 162755453,162770268,2018-03-04 19:27:46,">>162770191 See >>162770213",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520191666 162755453,162770641,2018-03-04 19:30:24,">>162766530 Aye, Britain, America and Russia were all non white in the 1930s. Do you even hear yourself mate?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520191824 162755453,162770657,2018-03-04 19:30:30,"Well. Its really late now, and even if it was fun, gotta sleep. I got a job after all, unlike Mr Laughingstock. Good night. And try to avoid IQ tests. They could break your heart.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520191830 162755453,162770755,2018-03-04 19:31:18,">>162770213 I've already bodied this thread and now I'm ruling over its charred remains as the undisputed king of /lrg/. You tried to conquer the thread, but the treads on your panzer got all dirty and nasty with all my shitposting. Now you're left here as a witness of the shitposting prowess of a single man, like the big nigga after getting the big mac slapped out of his hands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkqiC4KPeDs",,Anonymous,,,,,1520191878 162755453,162770840,2018-03-04 19:31:56,">>162770641 Nigga we ancap now Ancap = nigger famine",,Anonymous,,,,,1520191916 162755453,162771112,2018-03-04 19:34:03,">>162770755 Failed. Was a trap. It is so easy. I b8 you saying i go to sleep, and then you think you got the last word. My god. It may have been a decade since i saw a faggot of this magnitude. You are even a coward, on an anonymous forum. Wow. Just wow. You are just the ultimate piece of shit.the final coward. Incredible. I am baffled.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520192043 162755453,162771365,2018-03-04 19:35:50,You realize you are alone. The only guy in this thread is making fun of you. You realize that ? Read the last dozens of posts .,,Anonymous,,,FR,,1520192150 162755453,162772536,2018-03-04 19:44:26,>>162771112,,Anonymous,virgin frenchcuck vs chad me.png,3GkWZpq578+4Nqx90aAzMg==,,,1520192666 162755453,162772620,2018-03-04 19:45:16,">>162771365 back off B, I was making a meme",,Anonymous,,,,,1520192716 163019708,163019708,2018-03-06 20:49:19,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. >Post sneks >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Safespace and Archive: (((https://www.reddit.com/r/Ansnekistan/))) Videos: hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | the argument (右翼死刑囚) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdd2cF8UgfQ h o p p e w 𝓪 v e | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | end democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQsRcZ1lOs Based Hoppe physically removes democracy >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfLUnSII5A Drop it like it's Hoppe >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM Let's Get Physical >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU I Need a Pinochet >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A Hoppe's Kitchen - How to make Wiener Schnitzel >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dJKYpXSoc Leftists getting Physically Removed, So To Speak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVyeqIKBoc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1484429674775.png,immCxa3KDjlEVKUjzJ5CGg==,,,1520369359 163019708,163019835,2018-03-06 20:50:40,"RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf",,Anonymous,images.png,1B903VBJx4kZXoXapbxCtg==,,,1520369440 163019708,163020092,2018-03-06 20:53:17,"FIXED LINKS: I need a pinochet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o Let's get physical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY",,Anonymous,,,,,1520369597 163019708,163020222,2018-03-06 20:54:32,">>163019708 https://www.strawpoll.me/15216277",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520369672 163019708,163020312,2018-03-06 20:55:24,">>163019708 Capitalism is jew shilling, wake up",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520369724 163019708,163020325,2018-03-06 20:55:30,>>163019708,,Anonymous,1520366470271.png,wDmG2tWgZCiwRzaSxwICAg==,US,,1520369730 163019708,163020350,2018-03-06 20:55:48,>>163020325,,Anonymous,Freedom to do right.png,tDlWenhjIKGW7AFzxy194g==,US,,1520369748 163019708,163020389,2018-03-06 20:56:06,>>163020350,,Anonymous,Taxation poem.png,xA/ACAmBiZCsYyUYEk1MRg==,US,,1520369766 163019708,163020422,2018-03-06 20:56:23,>>163020389,,Anonymous,Keynesian Vs. Austrian.jpg,Tea5RXGVrkcHyyvQdFD47w==,US,,1520369783 163019708,163020507,2018-03-06 20:57:01,>>163020422,,Anonymous,Right-Wing Libertarian.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1520369821 163019708,163020579,2018-03-06 20:57:45,"Daily reminder, you own and are responsible for your self, your actions and the effects of those actions. Life, Liberty and Property are the bedrock of a great civilization and freedom is core.",,Anonymous,NAP-PropertyRights -Self-ownership-Freedom- Illustrated.jpg,f8AeH21oDwxwjDK9a+X2Sg==,,,1520369865 163019708,163020669,2018-03-06 20:58:34,">>163020579 This, stop relying on the government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520369914 163019708,163020966,2018-03-06 21:01:27,">>163020579 amen",,Anonymous,hans_herman_hoppe_the_nonaggressing_physically_removing_god.jpg,KWL1SmgmvwsNxUeCLbcgyA==,,,1520370087 163019708,163020992,2018-03-06 21:01:41,">>163020312 That's right SHEEPLE!!!! Exchanging goods and services for mutually beneficial (((((((outcomes))))))))???? Nothing but JEWISH TRICKS!!!!!! REEEEEEED SEEEEEEEEJ",,Anonymous,1513550428324.png,D/CfT24ntZTNg9hlI7SQBw==,US,,1520370101 163019708,163021169,2018-03-06 21:03:22,">>163019708 Fuck yes, we needed this general Keep this a thing",,Anonymous,,,,,1520370202 163019708,163021256,2018-03-06 21:04:10,">>163020992 Consumerist capitalism is a goy ploy. Stop giving the Jew money for their shit products",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520370250 163019708,163021334,2018-03-06 21:04:58,">>163021256 t. (((a friend)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1520370298 163019708,163021480,2018-03-06 21:06:34,">>163021169 Libertarians need a home here on /pol/, I'll keep making this general when I don't see one in the catalog",,Anonymous,1511030808850.png,s6/Ay5AhdpyIRVNmnyn0fQ==,,,1520370394 163019708,163021514,2018-03-06 21:06:50,">>163021256 DAS RIIIIIIIITE #ENDCAPITALISM",,Anonymous,muh tariffs.png,xuvZ/sSoYNOS7NXgPT7sSg==,US,,1520370410 163019708,163021529,2018-03-06 21:07:01,">>163021334 Yes, continue to feed the industry that shelters the jew. Good goy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520370421 163019708,163021634,2018-03-06 21:07:55,">>163021529 Thanks",,Anonymous,,,,,1520370475 163019708,163021729,2018-03-06 21:09:01,">>163021480 This is even contributing to my quality meme folder This general gives me hope Redpill the virgin natsoc",,Anonymous,,,,,1520370541 163019708,163021753,2018-03-06 21:09:17,">>163021634 It's not a compliment, goy becomes soy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520370557 163019708,163021817,2018-03-06 21:09:53,">>163021256 What about Laissez-faire Capitalism then?",,Anonymous,1503140572896.jpg,423aVOs2fiormdayexM0uA==,US,,1520370593 163019708,163021896,2018-03-06 21:10:37,">>163021753 It's funny said by a multicultural weakened society enslaved by capitalists because inferior",,Anonymous,,,,,1520370637 163019708,163022414,2018-03-06 21:15:44,"Post snek memes, I need more",,Anonymous,1481417097045pol.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,,,1520370944 163019708,163022552,2018-03-06 21:17:13,>You will never shoot commies with Randal,,Anonymous,rand-paul-wants-to-arm-all-airline-pilots-1460582014.jpg,UL+3sG9vTjPooj239i6oig==,,,1520371033 163019708,163022740,2018-03-06 21:19:04,>>163022552,,Anonymous,Ron-paul.jpg,CkEELSXUV4pRBjx1GeM7Cg==,,,1520371144 163019708,163022810,2018-03-06 21:19:41,>>163022414,,Anonymous,1518382434025.jpg,FbMFOmYbqhtsreIUdnkfmg==,US,,1520371181 163019708,163022841,2018-03-06 21:20:01,,,Anonymous,reciprocity.jpg,V6vkcpZrrKGwLKEd/C5i2Q==,US,,1520371201 163019708,163022872,2018-03-06 21:20:18,,,Anonymous,National Socialists are still Socialists.jpg,+lxcwyj9LwIzKJA/azYm+Q==,US,,1520371218 163019708,163022905,2018-03-06 21:20:35,,,Anonymous,principles.png,zk2dgyhlrV4bXTH3m61sRQ==,US,,1520371235 163019708,163022956,2018-03-06 21:21:04,"All I've got. Post more, faggets",,Anonymous,subtitled.jpg,x6KfnHpER9jIh2UjmxOm8A==,US,,1520371264 163019708,163023333,2018-03-06 21:24:42,,,Anonymous,1506164273124.png,RFcrGo2ygfCJqpurB42RRg==,,,1520371482 163019708,163023358,2018-03-06 21:24:59,"For all my music fans here, this is an interesting article: http://reason.com/blog/2017/06/14/dave-weigel-reason-podcast",,Anonymous,92414d2ccbe975e049634c084f0d6.jpg,MtRbP6iIPaAfRqWF6fs0PQ==,,,1520371499 163019708,163023427,2018-03-06 21:25:40,,,Anonymous,FC241A33-7233-48F7-B7DA-F50FDA965A87.jpg,epEoZlwacvcWRMFel1DBlw==,DE,,1520371540 163019708,163023511,2018-03-06 21:26:27,">>163022810 pull the trigger nigger",,Anonymous,1506269656006.png,ArorjhO7G0Gv/STc3mTo9Q==,US,,1520371587 163019708,163023593,2018-03-06 21:27:12,">snake posting So, when have right wingers actually kicked commies out aside from some shitty banana republic civil war? Just seems like an embarrassing larp, right wingers usually get their RIGHT WING DEATH SQUAD asses handed to them by supposed ""pussy"" leftists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520371632 163019708,163023983,2018-03-06 21:31:00,">>163023593 >right wingers usually get their RIGHT WING DEATH SQUAD asses handed to them by supposed ""pussy"" leftists Yeah fucking right, leftists couldn't even take down a neckbeard. Have you even read Locke?",,Anonymous,DXjhhNvW0AAyont.jpg,WQ0Va0njpIMtoiQBHdwD6g==,US,,1520371860 163019708,163024029,2018-03-06 21:31:29,"Never forget that ours is the tradition of light in these dark times. I'm serious here, humanity stumbled upon a great thing with the enlightenment, and then the age of Liberalism all the way to our Libertarian tradition. We were betrayed by a coalition of marxists and traditionalists, our heros were great men, they weren't unkempt unemployed grubs like Marx derranged nutjobs wanting a return of the aristocracy like the Facists. We hold the torch of Liberty, not the ""progressives"" and certainly not the neo-cons.",,Anonymous,Liberty-Is-Forever.jpg,7OEsfyVH2c4jHa4HPifrUQ==,,,1520371889 163019708,163024260,2018-03-06 21:34:02,">>163019708 God damn it, the Canadian media is exposing where I live as an incredibly safe place. Every spot that they said was safe was about 99% white. I'm poor, libertards, very poor. I'm already having a rough time where I am, which is one of the poorest parts of Canada. I was at the shelter today, in their clothing department to get something to wear, and I kid you not it was Syrians jostling for positions as far as the eye can see. I know what you are thinking, ""Fuck you, poorfag' Well man I wasn't always this way and shit happened, and this is why mostly Christians put these things in place. When I see a Catholic organization helping Muslims, I'm not mad, but when I see a whole entire place cleared out of all the things that are there to help many people just for a couple of Syrian families I seriously wonder what we are about as a community. It bothered me, because I'm in one sense empathetic, and the other protective. I gave and give to these organizations, will these people do the same, or will they start their own but exclude others from them? I will not know because why would they share. By the time it happens I'll be back on my feet, I know this. I'm almost back on my feet, and actually about to give back to the people that helped me get there, but I'm concerned these new comers won't do it. Maybe they will though?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1520372042 163019708,163024477,2018-03-06 21:36:00,">>163024260 >giving money to charity organizations",,Anonymous,,,,,1520372160 163019708,163024672,2018-03-06 21:37:41,">>163024029 Praise to you brother, I'm glad to see a fellow optimist in these dark times",,Anonymous,,,,,1520372261 163019708,163025050,2018-03-06 21:41:15,">>163019835 required reading - Human Action",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520372475 163019708,163025121,2018-03-06 21:41:53,">>163024672 >>163024029 We must stand proud and follow Hoppe's 10 pillars of libertarian action",,Anonymous,1515375904387.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,,,1520372513 163019708,163025276,2018-03-06 21:43:23,">>163025121 Lets rock",,Anonymous,who-would-win-the-largest-and-most-highly-some-drunken-29814342.png,NuXduEt/pSc4GMbYmvclJw==,,,1520372603 163019708,163025674,2018-03-06 21:46:52,"Opinion question, can a leftist even consider themselves non-authoritarian? Social issues aside, they inherently want a larger, more powerful government, and always seek restrictions on the ability to exercise economic freedom",,Anonymous,,,,,1520372812 163019708,163026004,2018-03-06 21:50:29,">>163025121 >>163025674 Only if you follow Hoppe's 10 pillars to a tee or else.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1520373029 163019708,163026006,2018-03-06 21:50:28,">>163025674 Leftists, no matter how libertarian they sometimes claim to be, want to control the actions of others. They have no desire for a voluntary society. Anyone claiming to be an anarcho communist should immediately have suspicion drawn to them, as their communist beliefs are antithetical to humanity and reality. The egalitarianism of the left requires an authoritarian state, and it fails when that is achieved.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520373028 163019708,163026179,2018-03-06 21:52:18,">>163026006 dude, don't be daft. Building communities is what humans do. In an anarchist society it is bound to happen, even one with capitalistic tendencies. There will be people that share amongst themselves. If you think otherwise, you don't know people very well.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1520373138 163019708,163026361,2018-03-06 21:54:14,">>163026179 Small voluntary communist communities are possible, but this is not what leftists want. Have you ever talked to an anarcho communist? You'll very quickly find out that they aren't satisfied with the idea of voluntary capitalism happening outside of their voluntary societies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520373254 163019708,163026493,2018-03-06 21:55:29,">>163024029 Amen!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520373329 163019708,163026788,2018-03-06 21:58:36,"Minarchist Libertarian reporting for duty. >I will build the roads.",,Anonymous,Free_Lunch_No_Such_Thing_TANSTAAFL.jpg,jr9DBrgzFPaVg9N2D/ekyg==,US,,1520373516 163019708,163027126,2018-03-06 22:02:02,,,Anonymous,1520123473926.png,7nndZM7O6I9BjVWzxaXYlw==,CA,,1520373722 163019708,163027550,2018-03-06 22:06:21,">>163026361 I know, that is why I tend to identify with your lot more. You actually understand the idea. Except of course the ad absurdium memeing. Then it all goes to shit with personal nukes and whatever. I suppose that's why you see their societies like that. I'll tell you what though, I actually know some An-coms in real life, and honestly I'm not sure if all of them want to have an authoritarian state ever. One of my good friends who lives in a commune(shared-house) loves her freedom. She would hate not being able to trade with others and then bring back whatever spoils she has to the house. I've lived in some shared communities myself. Nothing that was explicitly an-com however it would easily be considered proto in a way. I was always an anarchist, and did as I pleased. Sometimes selling and trading, sometimes helping plant food and cooking.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1520373981 163019708,163027955,2018-03-06 22:10:15,">>163026788 (checked) NO ROADS ALLOWED",,Anonymous,Ancap14.jpg,SgYvFC4dNtJvro3AkuNMRQ==,US,,1520374215 163019708,163028133,2018-03-06 22:12:13,">>163027550 There was nothing actually organized(usually) One day though we did try to organize the purchase of land for a commune(co-op or something along those lines) There was an older guy who came by who was sort of drunk. He actually got just genrally annoyed. ""You guys never do anything, it's always the same shit! Argue about the minutae and don't actually get the rubber to the pavement"" More or less like that, but those were my words. I get him now, and I also get why I had a lot to protest during that meeting. I expressed that personal property and possesions needed to be appreciated, and that ones own work was their own wealth. Probably why that meeting fell apart, along with the other guys drunken outbursts,",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1520374333 163019708,163028240,2018-03-06 22:13:22,">>163020325 Thats my OC! Hail",,Anonymous,nosteponsnek.jpg,SyjjEVMhw0mkwWnq0v7U4w==,US,,1520374402 163019708,163028668,2018-03-06 22:17:48,,,Anonymous,2018-02-01 04.36.45.png,2RS8KqM90UFfGZhSrY21wA==,US,,1520374668 163019708,163029283,2018-03-06 22:24:42,"The most important thing is to find a hoppean gfirlfriend, brothers!",,Anonymous,download.png,GDEa3edgICrxRt5VF8e4uQ==,,,1520375082 163019708,163029325,2018-03-06 22:25:07,"What the fuck do these ""Liberalists"" even defend? I've asked this in two separate threads and it seems nobody has a clear answer besides ""they're retarded"" and ""they're not too sure themselves."" Did this shit really just pop up overnight?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520375107 163019708,163029329,2018-03-06 22:25:07,">>163029283 :)",,Anonymous,1492855701192.png,0wyoNVadiR8ONN+w9i5QTw==,,,1520375107 163019708,163029606,2018-03-06 22:28:27,">>163029325 I have a feeling Sargon just coined the term like yesterday but there's no group yet. Of course no one knows wtf they are on about because there is no they, up until a couple days ago everyone already had their labels....liberal...classical liberal...libertarian...whatever. So I have no idea.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520375307 163019708,163029946,2018-03-06 22:31:56,You can´t.,,Anonymous,28468278_1611814922220154_6622818152074950917_n.png,nN6b6LkKXy9wkYp2aeL86w==,,,1520375516 163019708,163030042,2018-03-06 22:33:06,"Have some fresh OC, brothers.",,Anonymous,siege von bohm-bawerk.png,n6arEo65OGM28TnWrzCrCQ==,US,,1520375586 163019708,163030146,2018-03-06 22:34:25,">>163019708 Thanks for kicking me out of the discord, fags.",,HelicopterNoises.MP3,,,,,1520375665 163019708,163030150,2018-03-06 22:34:28,"dumping sneks Also the US is a socialist country and that's why shits fucked brahs.",,Anonymous,1486358844230.jpg,hiOOoeZ+tg5Dh38TS6Lumg==,US,,1520375668 163019708,163030199,2018-03-06 22:34:55,,,Anonymous,16602964_10154833983561278_6713528123869382709_n.jpg,CSrJLNzOSYpNetjO+p06LA==,US,,1520375695 163019708,163030208,2018-03-06 22:35:01,">>163029606 So, I found this http://liberalists.org/principles/ Apparently they're just some form of ""libertarian"" that stupidly holds on to Democracy and doesn't seem to understand what self-ownership means. Christ, I cannot believe Sargon is this retarded to actually coin a term for this shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520375701 163019708,163030248,2018-03-06 22:35:31,,,Anonymous,16640743_1143172722446553_8040912933258351395_n.jpg,jg6NTo8CEV1tnwjmtOyxDA==,US,,1520375731 163019708,163030271,2018-03-06 22:35:46,,,Anonymous,16708181_424685991201156_7923306302296707099_n.jpg,DiCa9kboccEa7iTIneP2wQ==,US,,1520375746 163019708,163030293,2018-03-06 22:36:03,,,Anonymous,1486067791589.jpg,b73k4pFdYW3PxIhkCJQ6qg==,US,,1520375763 163019708,163030306,2018-03-06 22:36:12,,,Anonymous,1486088955002.jpg,8FweKeUvkJNg/YE/ugJ4CQ==,US,,1520375772 163019708,163030332,2018-03-06 22:36:35,,,Anonymous,1486217507738.jpg,+qgINobbjHDYNY4F8uwL5g==,US,,1520375795 163019708,163030357,2018-03-06 22:36:48,,,Anonymous,1486263088465.jpg,YbRq+gV3Zac2eSmXE+mJdw==,US,,1520375808 163019708,163030368,2018-03-06 22:36:57,,,Anonymous,1486263597116.jpg,c0KUyXAJXe3uuNfYK4xQJg==,US,,1520375817 163019708,163030377,2018-03-06 22:37:01,">>163019708 Stop promoting open borders",,Anonymous,Smug Borjas.jpg,8CPUljAA7Hsr1Py+FMIcfg==,,,1520375821 163019708,163030386,2018-03-06 22:37:12,,,Anonymous,1486265775116.jpg,2Ta02N4faWGlyBiTwsUYSQ==,US,,1520375832 163019708,163030451,2018-03-06 22:38:06,">>163030377 >what are private boarders >implying migrants will flood the gates without socialist gibs >implying libertarian societies cannot have communal enclaves",,Anonymous,1486619372940.png,afeILQgCc9or6GqUOLdVCQ==,US,,1520375886 163019708,163030471,2018-03-06 22:38:17,,,Anonymous,1486631803380.jpg,XQmOukKD3KGlMvAEpKpyXQ==,US,,1520375897 163019708,163030485,2018-03-06 22:38:22,>>163030377,,Anonymous,holyshit.jpg,WuLLEW1WkGxDb9UrfgpNBA==,US,,1520375902 163019708,163030518,2018-03-06 22:38:46,,,Anonymous,1487015657588.jpg,8HrPFAGAiSxAYhjM1M6pmg==,US,,1520375926 163019708,163030547,2018-03-06 22:39:01,,,Anonymous,1487015696629.jpg,FOoro3CmmpOWf2bmrqmSpg==,US,,1520375941 163019708,163030564,2018-03-06 22:39:15,,,Anonymous,1487015809624.jpg,h1e+UBNs2R1YINWdOxqVAg==,US,,1520375955 163019708,163030575,2018-03-06 22:39:24,,,Anonymous,1487015907485.gif,fGrwVTp0wgkT8iPDSVkCVQ==,US,,1520375964 163019708,163030601,2018-03-06 22:39:47,,,Anonymous,1487016185184.jpg,1s+Wbf0LOH6xkRUsLU8RjQ==,US,,1520375987 163019708,163030616,2018-03-06 22:39:59,,,Anonymous,1487016248708.jpg,glhCyltviRwXX891LdGbkw==,US,,1520375999 163019708,163030623,2018-03-06 22:40:08,,,Anonymous,1487016275868.jpg,bBMDc2xBWoZpFOV1XsNI6Q==,US,,1520376008 163019708,163030628,2018-03-06 22:40:09,">>163019708 a libertarian society is predicated on a white society. you should focusing on fighting for our supermajority today, in order to get what you want tomorrow",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520376009 163019708,163030642,2018-03-06 22:40:18,,,Anonymous,1487016327167.jpg,71/yJ74HBA9n0kRqway2ww==,US,,1520376018 163019708,163030646,2018-03-06 22:40:25,"What will the ""libertarian world"" actually be like? Will I be living in McDonaldsLand? Living in a tailor-made private city? Are there going to be thousands of these cities? Or will there be large corporate territories? What will this whole thing look like when it's arrived?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520376025 163019708,163030664,2018-03-06 22:40:39,">>163030451 How come immigrants from SA come to the US mainly because of work then? How come immigrants are less likely to use means tested benefits than natives then? Migrants will flood your gates regardless of whether there's welfare or not. As long as there's work, there will be migration en mass",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376039 163019708,163030668,2018-03-06 22:40:42,no put feet on grug,,Anonymous,UNGA.png,N7sqrTpPD/hyWMO5yrXchw==,US,,1520376042 163019708,163030669,2018-03-06 22:40:42,Isss happening folkss!,,Anonymous,photo.jpg,wOp3Xt5hx9v967OlW6Lb1w==,,,1520376042 163019708,163030677,2018-03-06 22:40:51,">>163019708 KILL COMMIES AND NIGGERS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIeEotdOVew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520376051 163019708,163030713,2018-03-06 22:41:24,">>163030208 To be fair Liberal Democracy was a pretty exciting experiment back in the day. I mean we figured out Democracy is cancer like communism after the fact, the idea that people still like Democracy surely has to come from ignorance and and a refusal to look critically. At least he's not a Bernie bro or Nazi.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376084 163019708,163030896,2018-03-06 22:43:40,">>163030628 Eliminate government socialistic control over economy and society and the rest will sort itself out. >>163030664 >implying there is anything wrong with migrants coming for work with skills Migrants who come for gibs will not survive, its pretty simple. Judging from your flag, you probably think Mexican and Muslim migrants into EU and US are all doctors and engineers. Also >How come immigrants are less likely to use means tested benefits than natives then? Top kek",,Anonymous,1487016687921.png,riDXuiW7MKog8Audno6KZQ==,US,,1520376220 163019708,163030980,2018-03-06 22:44:39,,,Anonymous,1487017304130.jpg,G7XbNjOiYou4aXyVqXzMSg==,US,,1520376279 163019708,163031008,2018-03-06 22:45:00,,,Anonymous,1487017568386.png,GUBaE9K7mo/gn+aZReUi5Q==,US,,1520376300 163019708,163031010,2018-03-06 22:44:59,">>163030713 Some of the failed ideas of the great thinkers of the past were absolutely necessary for Rothbard to put the pieces together for modern libertarian thought to exist. Unfortunately, these ideas exist in a time when liberty is in utmost danger.",,Anonymous,1513403850037.jpg,6Isdaf3oIDpgYuJ2bIb3vw==,,,1520376299 163019708,163031020,2018-03-06 22:45:06,">>163030896 >top kek Why is that funny? It's the truth",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376306 163019708,163031022,2018-03-06 22:45:10,,,Anonymous,1487017640693.jpg,Xs3r54I/Oe0iyLKoScuQUg==,US,,1520376310 163019708,163031024,2018-03-06 22:45:12,">>163030646 The aesthetics vary as wildly as individuals do. Spontaneous order is organic, not centrally planned, so decentralized spawning of communities would lead to a diverse range of communities.",,Anonymous,seastead-concept-designs-envision-major-floating-cities-on-the-scale-of-places-like-hong-kong-and-new-york-city-2.jpg,hNVbSHoYwqxiGtYgF8vPmw==,,,1520376312 163019708,163031038,2018-03-06 22:45:21,,,Anonymous,nip ye.png,r8bDNW81yvzVQoyyIewyTg==,JP,,1520376321 163019708,163031064,2018-03-06 22:45:33,I love you guys!,,Anonymous,,,,,1520376333 163019708,163031068,2018-03-06 22:45:37,">>163031020 sauce",,Anonymous,1487018478985.jpg,fx08MaV1zKckdJJ7NqAVrw==,US,,1520376337 163019708,163031101,2018-03-06 22:45:57,REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,,Anonymous,1487018939376.jpg,M2hLhL9E+3ZbdFdsHa80nA==,US,,1520376357 163019708,163031111,2018-03-06 22:46:02,,,Anonymous,1506481352988.jpg,Gqc/lIySvn2LEi1s+X9q+w==,JP,,1520376362 163019708,163031142,2018-03-06 22:46:21,">>163019708 PRAISE PAUL",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376381 163019708,163031153,2018-03-06 22:46:28,,,Anonymous,1487205039528.png,iM2Dq6+79SDUJtrksptX1w==,US,,1520376388 163019708,163031171,2018-03-06 22:46:44,,,Anonymous,1487208710892.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,US,,1520376404 163019708,163031182,2018-03-06 22:46:52,,,Anonymous,1487210168129.png,EO8QMOHk40GRL9h1H1loag==,US,,1520376412 163019708,163031193,2018-03-06 22:47:01,>>163030616,,Anonymous,dont.jpg,gbcLrS2W/bllH7XRkQvx4g==,US,,1520376421 163019708,163031203,2018-03-06 22:47:07,">>163031024 How do you go about building it though?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376427 163019708,163031214,2018-03-06 22:47:14,THIS THREAD CLEARLY VIOLATES THE NAP,,Anonymous,1819557_1.jpg,HcN9/E6gW2FcTiicYQjSTQ==,,,1520376434 163019708,163031253,2018-03-06 22:47:37,>>163031193,,Anonymous,1489143552294.gif,trpQvlDN8BVRU+FlV87pfQ==,US,,1520376457 163019708,163031269,2018-03-06 22:47:50,,,Anonymous,1490946408079.png,tG+Eaqu80ddNhE8mdNgHJQ==,US,,1520376470 163019708,163031270,2018-03-06 22:47:50,">>163030646 In all honesty, my goal is not liberty for the whole world, but liberty for myself, my family, and my friends. Not everyone's fit for freedom. Given that, I think my vision of a libertarian country would have policies like 1840s US without the protectionism and without the niggers. Of course, that does not rule out private cities, covenant communities, etc., but I like the aesthetic of early America.",,Anonymous,Immigration.png,eWHhyDrt0lCIJI/H0+gVBQ==,US,,1520376470 163019708,163031276,2018-03-06 22:47:56,">>163019708 ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDIN ME HOPPEWAVE GOT BANNED FOR HATE SPEECH FUCKIN FASCIST COMMIES",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376476 163019708,163031285,2018-03-06 22:48:00,,,Anonymous,Screenshot_2018-02-07-21-27-38-1-1.png,3uCv41GjNESnzVsC7EHudA==,US,,1520376480 163019708,163031291,2018-03-06 22:48:07,,,Anonymous,1512233575325.png,mUI37I5YX1pWZ9TBl0IijA==,US,,1520376487 163019708,163031307,2018-03-06 22:48:16,>>163031253,,Anonymous,snekordie.jpg,pKjHwYIFznoEcXMzTNoyWw==,US,,1520376496 163019708,163031337,2018-03-06 22:48:37,">>163031203 Building what exactly?",,Anonymous,jrrtolkienanarchism.jpg,b8ndsKmlw0msy3jqVHwnYg==,,,1520376517 163019708,163031354,2018-03-06 22:48:53,>>163031285,,Anonymous,ancapnazialliance.png,g0lFfNuCrFHnq8+5VttYDw==,US,,1520376533 163019708,163031368,2018-03-06 22:49:01,">>163031285 Natsocs are basically commies, but they have some good points. But like all commies purpose the wrong solutions.",,Anonymous,1486087707878.png,5aDAhpApsY8d4+JV/Jto0g==,US,,1520376541 163019708,163031404,2018-03-06 22:49:24,">>163031337 The cities.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376564 163019708,163031419,2018-03-06 22:49:36,>>163031354,,Anonymous,1493321070656.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,US,,1520376576 163019708,163031441,2018-03-06 22:49:57,,,Anonymous,1516823812597.png,MUz2chZJTaKf78QFhYBkYQ==,US,,1520376597 163019708,163031455,2018-03-06 22:50:08,,,Anonymous,asfdsefewafwe.jpg,yHgJiwl24izEGJJNbtegUA==,US,,1520376608 163019708,163031484,2018-03-06 22:50:34,,,Anonymous,1493525442001.png,FxtPMM/PTHU8P0D9WgvqIA==,US,,1520376634 163019708,163031498,2018-03-06 22:50:42,,,Anonymous,1493522677471.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1520376642 163019708,163031504,2018-03-06 22:50:46,">>163031368 how good old falangism/fascism? (and all the other non socials forms of fascism.)",,Anonymous,1519275659835.png,CUCb5Ji2vEWj9aUhEiXpig==,CA,,1520376646 163019708,163031513,2018-03-06 22:50:50,,,Anonymous,1493856666175.jpg,pVp+fZFsU3o+LCpSRjK8Kg==,US,,1520376650 163019708,163031524,2018-03-06 22:50:58,">>163030896 >implying nigger famine talk about bad optics",,Anonymous,Donald-Trump-Laughing-Reuters.jpg,IElcnuoQcGvA1m1qbBhA1g==,US,,1520376658 163019708,163031531,2018-03-06 22:51:04,">>163031307 KEK >>163031337 >>163031354 >>163031368 >>163031419 very noice lads, very noice",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376664 163019708,163031603,2018-03-06 22:52:00,">>163019708 This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. Then, I brushed my teeth with that water, filtered to standards set by the EPA and my state. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration. At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank and printed by the Federal Bureau of Engraving and Printing. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school. I park my car on the street, paved and maintained by the Department of Transportation, and put quarters issued by the United States Mint into the parking meter. Then, after spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520376720 163019708,163031664,2018-03-06 22:52:39,">>163031068 https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/edb17.pdf",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376759 163019708,163031722,2018-03-06 22:53:28,">>163019708 >This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. >I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. Then, I brushed my teeth with that water, filtered to standards set by the EPA and my state. >After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration. >At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank and printed by the Federal Bureau of Engraving and Printing. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school. >I park my car on the street, paved and maintained by the Department of Transportation, and put quarters issued by the United States Mint into the parking meter. Then, after spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376808 163019708,163031748,2018-03-06 22:53:44,">>163031404 I'd imagine property owners large and small would build things on their property. Norms and differences develop, larger institutions do larger scale architectural planning, socio economic areas form where similar people congregate. Businesses that own shops would own the infrastructure leading to those shops, or a 3rd party would, people would own their property. I imagine it would all be constructed as it should be or as it tries to be when not restricted by central planners, zoning regulations and public servants town plans. Though a combination of planning and organic growing of communities would be likely. Not sure what you're asking though specifically.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376824 163019708,163031777,2018-03-06 22:54:02,">>163030668 no need assault club! longnose tribe tell grug tale of mass clubbing! me hear of grugling carry assault club into youngling cave and smash many other grugling! make many gruglings and longnose tribe cry! what your answer? Grug mean, come on. Is 20 moons past first hunt. Still have need for assault club in day and age? You care about younglings, you give assault club to longnose tribe for safe keeping. It just that simple.",,Anonymous,402.png,fsiVgcGZLC18iZWjVc2ycQ==,US,,1520376842 163019708,163031778,2018-03-06 22:54:02,">>163031368 Hoppe's 2017 PFS speech perfectly states the relationship between the ""alt right"" and libertarians today. Your standard alt right national socialist type today is more concerned with what it hates rather than any universal axiom backed with theory. Libertarians frequently emphasize theory without demonstrating a way to achieve the end goal. Libertarians today should take some of the tactics of the alt right (aggressively and shamelessly calling out the modern cultural institutions today and taking action against them) while maintaining the strong theory that libertarianism is based in. Hoppe really delivered a beautiful speech and I'm not doing it justice by summing up some of it. https://youtu.be/hojvT_BDlxQ",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376842 163019708,163031782,2018-03-06 22:54:06,">>163031603 nice try commie now enjoy your free ride",,Anonymous,71b.jpg,SJlzppFTsddIjG69n6MOBg==,,,1520376846 163019708,163031869,2018-03-06 22:55:11,">>163031504 Fascists attempt to control outcomes in the same ways any other socialist would, but they work their systems in a more realistic way I suppose? They also value eugenics. Libertarians inadvertently do as well, we just let the free market sort it out. >>163031524 >tfw can't send the free market to jail and can't take force me to gib gibs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520376911 163019708,163031889,2018-03-06 22:55:27,">>163019708 I drive back to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and the fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department. I then log onto the Internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on freerepublic and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right. Keep government out of my Medicare!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520376927 163019708,163031941,2018-03-06 22:56:08,">>163031603 thank you for explaining in detail the many layers of the state that need to be destroyed root and branch",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376968 163019708,163031953,2018-03-06 22:56:20,">>163031404 Other anon gave a good answer. People would build their own homes and corporations would build their own businesses Here's the real question: how can private property exist without a state to enforce it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376980 163019708,163031958,2018-03-06 22:56:23,">>163031777 checked top kek more grugposting please",,Anonymous,,,,,1520376983 163019708,163032003,2018-03-06 22:56:51,">>163031748 I thought private companies would build the cities and shit. But that's cool too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377011 163019708,163032036,2018-03-06 22:57:14,">>163031722 See, way too much wasteful useless regulation for things that would happen regardless. Bureaucratic busy bodies trying to make themselves seem important by imposing rules just for the sake of rules. You know how many EU regulations there are for fucking pillows? PILLOWS!!",,Anonymous,201652-frederic-bastiat-quotes.jpg,xjQA7/pzgo8PxhpdhkMUmQ==,,,1520377034 163019708,163032139,2018-03-06 22:58:30,">>163031953 >how can private property exist without a state to enforce it? Guard it with your life or hire a private death squad, dickhead.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377110 163019708,163032167,2018-03-06 22:58:57,">>163032003 I'm sure companies would specialize in that sort of thing. McDonalds probably wouldn't want to hire a town planning division if they can just outsource it in a congruent way with the rest of the local businesses. But maybe mining towns would start more in the hands of the mining businesses than city planning ones. I would love to see what would pop up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377137 163019708,163032301,2018-03-06 23:00:28,">>163032167 How do we start an AnCap society? Can we take over Tuvalu and build it up artificially?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377228 163019708,163032327,2018-03-06 23:00:46,">>163031777 all bad chieftain take club grugler took club gruglin took club grao took club grugel castro took club grugo gravez took club grug here to say grug war of independence start again if longnose try to take grug clubs",,Anonymous,1520287969203.jpg,dBOOC+eFhfeP031Gp6blbg==,US,,1520377246 163019708,163032332,2018-03-06 23:00:48,">>163031664 >no method defined >even so at best it shows immigrants on par with natives >doesn't account for asylum seekers or illegals",,Anonymous,1493583749376.png,3Wa9EoBOwZ1L8xFA36Gj0w==,US,,1520377248 163019708,163032399,2018-03-06 23:01:30,Made this for a Warcraft RP server.,,Anonymous,Bear_Battle_flag.png,0wmrKmaGrFNnJtrUNlnE8A==,US,,1520377290 163019708,163032400,2018-03-06 23:01:33,">>163031953 In the absence of a state you can: > protect property with force (Ancap) > take property with force (Ancom) The thing is, everyone recognizes that ownership is essential to civilization, Ancoms just make arbitrary distinctions between ""private"" and ""personal"" property because of feels, Libertarians have a fully fleshed out from first principles grounded theory of property. So I'm going to go with ""defending property is as moral as defending oneself and does not constitute the creation of the state because the state has many specific attributes that need not be immitated when merely producing the same defensive services it currently does"".",,Anonymous,frederic-bastiat-571738.jpg,TaFHhXAY/F1BV9VttPbQbQ==,,,1520377293 163019708,163032519,2018-03-06 23:03:09,">>163031778 I'm starting to gravitate toward Hoppe a lot more. I think the passive stance most libertarians have had hasn't been working.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520377389 163019708,163032580,2018-03-06 23:03:41,">>163032036 >things that would happen regardless Faggot lolbertarian. Don't you understand that humans act at their absolute worst when not governed by some regulations or laws. Your retarded anarchy will only leave room for abuse by private companies. No one gives a shit about others unless someone mandates them to. >hurrrr durrr it will balance itself out the free market can take care of everything and will economically punish companies who act tyrannical No it won't. Not when they act like monopolies and we're all under their mercy. Fuck you stupid privileged self entitled faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377421 163019708,163032588,2018-03-06 23:03:45,">>163032139 OK, but really, try and give a real answer since this is really why the whole idea doesn't even make sense. What's to stop someone from shooting you and moving into your house? What happens when someone dies? Is their house just up for grabs? Given there would be no justice system and thus no investigation it seems like it would be a very easy thing to do. The owner mysteriously disappeared, the house is mine. I don't know what happened to the owner, but the house has gotta go to someone!",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377425 163019708,163032688,2018-03-06 23:04:52,">>163032301 I think the most likely way, will be spreading the ideas and culture which force the society itself, the politics, the systems etc to shift as well. I think the easiest way is for the culture to spread so that we can slowly sidestep the state and render it obsolete. Things like Uber with taxi licensing, Crypto with the central banking monopolies and so on. Each function of government just fading away slowly as new alternatives crop up that are gradual and non-threatening until it's all around us. Like plants growing through the concrete cracks to reclaim an abandoned city the state is too slow to keep up with the market. Seasteading is a great idea, free state movement is too, heaps of ideas. We do need to get more active though. We're nothing compared to the Marxists 100 years ago.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377492 163019708,163032711,2018-03-06 23:05:07,">>163032399 Bears are so badass, why does the most cucked state in the union get to use such badassery",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520377507 163019708,163032783,2018-03-06 23:05:53,">>163032139 You own a house, a business, a car, and a Taco Bell™ sex slave, and yet you don't really own anything since you have no legal claim to any of it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377553 163019708,163032805,2018-03-06 23:06:08,,,Anonymous,how-many-layers-of-economics-are-you-on-my-dude-7690542.png,3p/1dHuIxNyoR7/m+Vpdpw==,,,1520377568 163019708,163032809,2018-03-06 23:06:11,">>163032580 >I need daddy Stalin to tell me to be a good boi In a free society communities can protect themselves and as such they can pick and choose who in the market they wish to associate with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520377571 163019708,163032863,2018-03-06 23:06:52,">>163032301 desu I don't think ancap can actually work until we are a space fairing society. Minarchism I think can work in the meantime.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520377612 163019708,163032871,2018-03-06 23:06:55,">>163032711 The best state in the US has two bears on its seal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520377615 163019708,163032922,2018-03-06 23:07:28,">>163032711 IKR? I love bears, they should be the Animal of Libertarians period. Bears are wise and keep to themselves and they only attack when threatened.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520377648 163019708,163032936,2018-03-06 23:07:35,">>163032580 > Don't you understand that humans act at their absolute worst when not governed by some regulations or laws. Yes that's why Ancap is without rulers not without rules. Put painted lines in a shop and watch the sheep line up in it. We go the path of least resistance, we are social animals after all. > Not when they act like monopolies and we're all under their mercy. Fuck you stupid privileged self entitled faggot. Calm down retard, the state creates corporations, without the state you no longer have to worry about corporations but only what private individuals and businesses can get away with and it pales in comparison to what states and state corporations are capable of due to their justified violence. Mao, Hitler, Stalin were all ""justified"" statists. Not in our society bucko.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377655 163019708,163032993,2018-03-06 23:08:18,">>163032588 You'll need to get a McInvestigstor by subscribing to either a Bronze, Silver, Gold, or Platnium package (as well as paying the sign up fee) offered by the McLawEnforcement and subscribing to their services.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377698 163019708,163033000,2018-03-06 23:08:26,">>163032588 see >>163032400",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377706 163019708,163033044,2018-03-06 23:08:57,">>163032871 Missouri my grandpa used to live there and enjoyed it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520377737 163019708,163033069,2018-03-06 23:09:07,">>163032580 >Your retarded anarchy will only leave room for abuse by private companies. No one gives a shit about others unless someone mandates them to. What abuse? What abuse could a private company do that couldn't be solved with competition, property rights, and ostracism? >No it won't. Not when they act like monopolies and we're all under their mercy. Fuck you stupid privileged self entitled faggot. Monopolies that can only form with the help of the state? With no state feeding monopolies, the markets truly have to reflect demand. The only monopoly that could form in an anarcho capitalist society would be one that provides goods so efficiently and of such high quality that there is no demand for any alternative. If that were to happen (extremely unlikely), what is the ethical problem with a natural monopoly that consumers have voluntarily chosen as the greatest and sole producer of quality, efficiently made goods?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377747 163019708,163033109,2018-03-06 23:09:36,,,Anonymous,tumblr_ol1h4uv4Jz1tvuyw2o1_500.jpg,jLN8ne4inYd9vKmPGUZyig==,,,1520377776 163019708,163033110,2018-03-06 23:09:37,">>163032993 >private investigators and private security services are inefficient, which is why nobody ever hires them despite there being a public service available for """"""""""""""""free""""""""""""""""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520377777 163019708,163033272,2018-03-06 23:11:20,">>163033000 >defending property is as moral as defending oneself and does not constitute the creation of the state because the state has many specific attributes that need not be immitated when merely producing the same defensive services it currently does"". What did he mean by this? No, seriously, what the fuck is he talking about? >you don't need a state to define and uphold private property because creation attributes produced imitate defense service state",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377880 163019708,163033310,2018-03-06 23:11:44,">>163032580 Why are commies always so threatened by freedom",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377904 163019708,163033351,2018-03-06 23:12:17,">>163032809 >>163033069 >>163033000 Liberty is back baby.",,Anonymous,the-boys-are-back-in-town-4769780.png,bgwVn5HvAFAsFpEjxEKRaw==,,,1520377937 163019708,163033365,2018-03-06 23:12:30,">>163033310 They're just too chicken to fight for their freedom to have their labor exploited for a profit",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377950 163019708,163033422,2018-03-06 23:13:08,">>163032809 Yes because human conflict and abuse doesn't occur at even the lowest levels of human interaction. Even in small homogenous communities you have greed, one villager trying to outdo the other. Human nature forbids your stupid philosophy from functioning properly. If there is a law saying ""don't do this or you'll face punishment"" then that triggers the little fear response in the back of your brain which makes you refrain from committing an act. And Rules established by private companies will be tailored to their interests and imposed inequality on the populace. There's no overseeing authority to see if these rules are fair and just.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520377988 163019708,163033447,2018-03-06 23:13:25,">>163033310 Because what would they do with it? They're already too lazy to do anything with the little freedom we have, they would be lost without papa states cock up their arse dictating what to do like a pornographic sock puppet.",,Anonymous,quote-ah-you-miserable-creatures-you-who-think-that-you-are-so-great-you-who-judge-humanity-frederic-bastiat-34-59-77.jpg,zGND8R8EtjJjXrXEVo24Wg==,,,1520378005 163019708,163033452,2018-03-06 23:13:28,">>163033351 when you troll a liberal epic style LIBERTTTYYYY!",,Anonymous,jWr67J8.png,vjJNW2lb4IlHMuTgLo/Mnw==,,,1520378008 163019708,163033506,2018-03-06 23:14:15,">>163033351 and may it stay forever",,Anonymous,835acc381107493cb31f40139fddbee329795b4e5f9b16ecae42012e7c4136c2.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,,,1520378055 163019708,163033509,2018-03-06 23:14:17,">>163032580 >No one gives a shit about others unless someone mandates them to. Nice larp, buddy, but communists don't actually say that. Don't try so hard next time.",,Anonymous,7a3236b3c279f2dea1495b0a71a7a53ed387afaf337f6fc93132142b7bbb867c.png,PobViApBqva0O0ueka1lEw==,US,,1520378057 163019708,163033538,2018-03-06 23:14:40,">>163033447 >implying there's a state under communism Yeah, anarcho-capitalism is cool and all, but have you ever tried reading a book?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378080 163019708,163033563,2018-03-06 23:14:59,">>163033365 >fight for freedom >cause blood revolution to empower the likes of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, etc You faggots worship these leaders, post their their dumbass flag and not even for one second in their countries did they have actual communism. In every example of communism being tried it does the polar opposite of its stated goals. Flag waving faggots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378099 163019708,163033607,2018-03-06 23:15:25,">>163033452 Thas'it mayn",,Anonymous,Ancap-Braveheart.jpg,R4aojwagqdkPSGSUAEpvvQ==,,,1520378125 163019708,163033626,2018-03-06 23:15:33,">>163033538 >communism is stateless! that's why it requires a tyrannical authoritarian government to implement :)",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378133 163019708,163033637,2018-03-06 23:15:37,">>163033509 You got me :^)",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378137 163019708,163033668,2018-03-06 23:16:03,>>163033563,,Anonymous,27750598_215085199055357_2041542396384462354_n.jpg,bzDmyZHrZfXApU+kuExsMQ==,,,1520378163 163019708,163033679,2018-03-06 23:16:10,">>163033422 You're espousing support for authoritative rule, what about your classless society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378170 163019708,163033694,2018-03-06 23:16:17,">>163033538 See: >>163032400 God speed commie.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378177 163019708,163033736,2018-03-06 23:16:42,Daily reminder that real communism has never been tried,,Anonymous,,,,,1520378202 163019708,163033738,2018-03-06 23:16:44,">>163033538 With no state, who's there to keep someone from buying and selling goods? What's to keep someone from opening up their own businesses? What's to keep someone from not wanting to appeal to the communist ideology?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378204 163019708,163033760,2018-03-06 23:17:03,">>163033668 What's the propaganda? Are you implying the USSR was actual communism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378223 163019708,163033762,2018-03-06 23:17:03,">>163033694 >defending property is as moral as defending oneself and does not constitute the creation of the state because the state has many specific attributes that need not be immitated when merely producing the same defensive services it currently does"". What did he mean by this? No, seriously, what the fuck is he talking about? >you don't need a state to define and uphold private property because creation attributes produced imitate defense service state",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378223 163019708,163033780,2018-03-06 23:17:18,Feels good to be able to fly this flag on pol.,,Anonymous,1520356541758.png,cZD9AZIwsLNviEADzi8gjg==,,,1520378238 163019708,163033860,2018-03-06 23:18:11,">>163033780 Godspeed AnCom man",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378291 163019708,163033864,2018-03-06 23:18:12,">>163033780 Wrong flag, nigger",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378292 163019708,163033894,2018-03-06 23:18:37,">>163033760 Hey I know you're retarded but the statements in the meme were satirical, I wasn't actually trying to say any of that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378317 163019708,163033912,2018-03-06 23:19:00,">>163033736 Yeah right. And I suppose YOUR communism is the real one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378340 163019708,163033938,2018-03-06 23:19:16,">>163032327 But most popular handsome grug in nicest caves in Grugifornia say assault club bad! What you going to do with assault club anyway? Overthrow Tribal Elders? Me not think so! You so dum dum! Tribal Elders have very warm magic flower that hurt hand. Ridiculous to think assault club would hurt Elders. Always obey chieftain, elders, and longnose tribe. Take wife from darkskin tribe like longnose tribe say. If you not live so far away from different tribes you understand. Me need bring many different tribe to your cave so you understand. You have woman. She mate with many other tribe and you bring meat to her gruglings. You understand now. Very important understand many other tribe.",,Anonymous,smug_grug.png,ZRuGY55B9LPCvqKeIakg4A==,US,,1520378356 163019708,163033964,2018-03-06 23:19:36,">>163033762 > state currently handles dispute resolution > can have dispute resolver that isn't a state > merely by not having the same attributes as a state > if the state handles education > private education =/= a state Get me so far senpai?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378376 163019708,163033996,2018-03-06 23:20:03,">>163033912 Of course! And if that version fails, I have millions more to fall back too. Good luck cornering me Capitalist swine",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378403 163019708,163034011,2018-03-06 23:20:11,">>163033668 >blames the rich and the CIA for talking about the downsides of your dogshit ideology. We are reaching levels of tinfoil hat that shouldn't even be possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378411 163019708,163034037,2018-03-06 23:20:29,">>163033864 It's the only flag that makes sense.",,Anonymous,FxUpl6u_d.jpg,GGdo4ZulTyOc6x3QcPPnUg==,,,1520378429 163019708,163034041,2018-03-06 23:20:30,">>163033668 >Aw shit nigga I want those nice consumer goods >Sheet ma ain't got no money to spare >Several places are hiring nearby, I can earn it if I work for it. >... >Naaah >I mean the guberments gives me foods, How bout rollies too. >FREE COLLEGE FOR MY 2.3 GPA HAVING ASS >SEIZE THE MEMES OF PRODUCTION >UNIRONICALLY SUPPORT COMMUNIST POSITIONS ON MY CONSUMER SMART PHONE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378430 163019708,163034050,2018-03-06 23:20:38,">>163033894 see refute the original post, you stupid faggot. Oh that's right you can't, because I'm right and you're a retard who doesn't even know what communism is. Keep flying that flag of not real communism though, fuck boi.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378438 163019708,163034073,2018-03-06 23:20:57,">>163034037 Why do you hate freedom so much?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378457 163019708,163034128,2018-03-06 23:21:38,">>163033668 Why rely on propaganda when history proves your ideology is shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378498 163019708,163034139,2018-03-06 23:21:46,">>163034073 He thinks he'll be a card carrying party member who gets to shape society to his will. Like all socialists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378506 163019708,163034151,2018-03-06 23:21:52,">>163034041 Unironically this",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378512 163019708,163034160,2018-03-06 23:21:59,">>163033964 > state currently handles dispute resolution > can have dispute resolver that isn't a state > merely by not having the same attributes as a state Yeah, I know, but that's still a state. If Wal-Mart, Amazon and McDonald's teamed up to fulfill the functions of a state (education, prison, police, military) then they would BECOME the state. Get it senpai? Sorry for stepping on your snake or whatever",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378519 163019708,163034222,2018-03-06 23:22:43,">>163034139 Then they get enslaved like the rest of the sheep or lined up against a wall and shot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378563 163019708,163034239,2018-03-06 23:22:59,">>163034011 >I don't believe anything the government tells me, unless it's something negative about socialism, of course! You are actually a fucking idiot lol",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378579 163019708,163034257,2018-03-06 23:23:10,">>163034160 >functions of a state >education",,Anonymous,1515128793888.gif,zr7CYIEVmzPWzbmC7hH+1g==,US,,1520378590 163019708,163034270,2018-03-06 23:23:19,">>163034160 >Yeah, I know, but that's still a state. If Wal-Mart, Amazon and McDonald's teamed up to fulfill the functions of a state (education, prison, police, military) then they would BECOME the state. Checkmate libertardians",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378599 163019708,163034277,2018-03-06 23:23:22,">>163034073 Ancaps never picture themselves as the working class. You all have a fantasy that you'll be part of the elites and super rich, when in reality, you'd be poorfags everyone else. Cucked by the negative freedoms of the privilege few owners of property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378602 163019708,163034318,2018-03-06 23:23:47,"Fucking ancap spooks Get Saged https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emi9CaAEuv0&t=550s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU68UeiwJIY&t=126s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1O3DWDzyv8",,Anonymous,Lolbergtards_BTFO[1].jpg,3/dVod/h42KXVA4zmvmCow==,,,1520378627 163019708,163034329,2018-03-06 23:23:55,">>163034239 >I let government do my thinking for me. >Personal freedom is oppressive.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378635 163019708,163034333,2018-03-06 23:23:58,">>163034041 Socialism is not when the government gives you free weed It's not handouts. That's what the Democrats want. That's a different thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378638 163019708,163034356,2018-03-06 23:24:12,">>163034277 >>>163034073 >Ancaps never picture themselves as the working class. You all have a fantasy that you'll be part of the elites and super rich, when in reality, you'd be poorfags everyone else. Cucked by the negative freedoms of the privilege few owners of property. >>163034277 Cucked, privileged **",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378652 163019708,163034373,2018-03-06 23:24:23,">>163034239 >communist >thinks he is in any position to question the intelligence of another person",,Anonymous,1519175133056.jpg,LtnGde959l8jf4kcXSGXxA==,,,1520378663 163019708,163034402,2018-03-06 23:24:44,">Libanarchists come back to /pol/ >Thread gets completely coopted by a commie Is this why you guys took a vacation in the first place?",,Anonymous,1516817683071.gif,dfX2lEc61IoecmwhIL2jig==,,,1520378684 163019708,163034430,2018-03-06 23:25:04,Can even one of you idiots explain to me how Libertarianism could work in the real world? Without a state?,,Anonymous,,,,,1520378704 163019708,163034437,2018-03-06 23:25:06,">>163034277 Wrong. In a libertarian society I can put in minimal effort and be well enough off. I have no desire to be rich, I rather have a more comfortable lifestyle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378706 163019708,163034503,2018-03-06 23:25:48,">>163034402 Dealing with retards is hard enough in the real world, sometimes a break is needed to put up with them online",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378748 163019708,163034505,2018-03-06 23:25:50,">>163034333 >Socialism is not when the government Oh really? Can you give me an example of anytime in history where socialism hasn't been when the government does a thing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378750 163019708,163034516,2018-03-06 23:26:00,">>163034277 LOST thanks for the laugh anon. I sometimes secretly hope anarcho-capitalism happens just to watch it crash and burn without hours. Also, it would lay the groundwork very well for a socialist revolution. Seizing the means of production would be easier than ever!",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378760 163019708,163034522,2018-03-06 23:26:02,">>163034402 we should know better and just ignore commies at this point",,Anonymous,1513648346751.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,,,1520378762 163019708,163034534,2018-03-06 23:26:07,">>163034356 >Faggot commie thinks he'll be a card carrying party member, but in reality he'll be enslaved just like the rest of the sheep or lined up against a wall and shot by the government he voted for.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378767 163019708,163034549,2018-03-06 23:26:18,">>163034402 >hello fellow confederates",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378778 163019708,163034571,2018-03-06 23:26:32,">>163034270 Well those companies would have the goal of profit. Profit on a currency protected and backed by the U.S government. >McAr-15",,Anonymous,lenin.jpg,UOwVpGhyopVMj1RH3zG55g==,US,,1520378792 163019708,163034602,2018-03-06 23:26:51,">>163034329 >States doing the thinking is bad. >Bosses and managers doing the thinking for me is the real deal. Can't make this shit up.",,Anonymous,1520362968995.png,LwluutAThLLHP5T76gU8Mg==,,,1520378811 163019708,163034659,2018-03-06 23:27:38,">>163034373 >libertardian >thinks his ideology is so superior that he can dismiss other people's arguments based on their ideology without providing any valid argument Wow ur liek rlly smart dood :^)",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378858 163019708,163034663,2018-03-06 23:27:40,">>163034505 I'm not sure what you're talking about but socialism means social control of the means of production, not the government ""doing a thing""",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378860 163019708,163034687,2018-03-06 23:27:58,">>163034277 Well they understand to get to this point that they have to dedicate themselves to a craft and constantly improve. Using tenets of individualist theory to create a legacy and make something from nothing. They believe in merit and social mobility, you don't",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378878 163019708,163034694,2018-03-06 23:28:03,">>163034534 Party member? Tf are you talking about. Syndicalism us when unions take over the economy. The way it should be.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378883 163019708,163034719,2018-03-06 23:28:21,">>163034602 the difference being that bosses and managers eat costs if they fail to produce and allocate properly, giving them private incentive to do as good of a job as possible",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378901 163019708,163034772,2018-03-06 23:28:56,">>163034522 just can't help yourselves though can you >>163034549 (((abolitionist))) detected",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378936 163019708,163034778,2018-03-06 23:29:00,">>163030042 solid",,Anonymous,yung hoppe1.jpg,5bbaWSD58xgv7j0ADpJSlA==,AU,,1520378940 163019708,163034802,2018-03-06 23:29:21,">>163034663 I well aware of what socialism is SUPPOSE to be. For the same reason you are unable to properly refute >>163033563",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520378961 163019708,163034818,2018-03-06 23:29:32,">>163034694 >unions >special interests groups that destroy prosperity >controlling the economy wow you guys really are fucking retarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378972 163019708,163034819,2018-03-06 23:29:31,">>163034522 Yeah lol, but you never will, because you are all children desperately seeking what you think will be an easy fight with people who are wrong, realize you have no idea what you're actually talking about 2 sentences into your first (You) and then just get mad and talk about killing commies",,Anonymous,when-you-dont-know-what-socialism-is-so-you-call-25162945.png,vbtUv4eHgkPotxFfOf9XEQ==,,,1520378971 163019708,163034823,2018-03-06 23:29:33,">>163019708 >he is a libertarian LMAO you might as well be a commie cuck to me. Face it, your ideology is garbage and cannot function without an authority to withhold it (at first) >every ancap meme I want to post to prove me right is a duplicate Fuck it, I bet they are in this thread too.",,Anonymous,1490898035367.jpg,aVBChoRQB2J+Pel7cLsKvQ==,,,1520378973 163019708,163034840,2018-03-06 23:29:45,">>163034602 >Letting anyone do your thinking for you How retarded are you? Who the fuck said that bosses and managers think for me? If i work at a company where we have to team up to make a product that will solve a common problem that people endure, then i'm allowed to think for myself and put my skills to work so i can work with my team and design said product, whereas in gommunism, you get told what to do and what to think regardless of what you have to say.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378985 163019708,163034841,2018-03-06 23:29:46,">>163034719 Which is why they do things like completely disregard the n.a.p and just kill their competitors historically.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520378986 163019708,163034913,2018-03-06 23:30:35,">>163034772 Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on the monument situation Dixieman",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379035 163019708,163034920,2018-03-06 23:30:39,">>163019708 HOMO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIeEotdOVew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379039 163019708,163034924,2018-03-06 23:30:42,">>163034160 No. A state has very defining characteristics that alternatives need not have. A private tutor is not a government, because a private tutor is not an involuntary monopoly of violence over a given geogrpahical area and so on and so forth. Just like a hired security guard to protect your person: > is voluntarily engaged/disengaged > does not claim to be above you and your property > consent and funding can be rescinded > relies on contracts > you have recourse The differences go on and on. The confusion and memes between Libertarians and Communists go back to that OP, that one side views protecting property as ""the state"" and the other views appropriating property as ""a state"". Truth is it depends on the justification can violence, strangely enough both sides view their chosen ""defensive"" use of violence as moral and self-defense, no aggression. Semantics aside though, you can provide services the state currently provides without being a state because these have been provided before and there is a difference between the service and the provider. Education and roads existed outside ""the state"" and you can have 3rd party dispute resolvers today that aren't governments. Final example: Credit rating agencies and legal arbiters, if you don't pay bills you get bad credit, and when you pay what you owe you can get your credit fixed etc, with bad credit your options are limited for getting further credit/sign ups etc. A credit rating agency is not a state and neither is a 3rd party arbiter that helps arbitrate disputes before things go to court. These are private alternatives with different characteristics. Doesn't make them states.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379042 163019708,163034944,2018-03-06 23:30:53,">>163034840 >one day I'll own this boot.",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1519811691502.jpg,z+Kx36S7w5yD2xpWN25s2Q==,,,1520379053 163019708,163034972,2018-03-06 23:31:16,">>163034802 Socialism is still better than capitalism. The only reason I'm having trouble refuting the argument is because it's not really there",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379076 163019708,163035023,2018-03-06 23:31:47,">>163034944 What?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379107 163019708,163035075,2018-03-06 23:32:22,">>163034972 Now that right there is a flawless argument and refutation if I've ever seen one",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379142 163019708,163035100,2018-03-06 23:32:42,">>163034818 Yeah man, the I.W.W is exactly the same as all the trade unions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379162 163019708,163035108,2018-03-06 23:32:54,Ancaps and Libertarians believe in meritocracy and social mobility. Ancaps are samey and boring,,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379174 163019708,163035111,2018-03-06 23:32:55,">>163034972 Socialism assumes an egalitarian position in a naturally hierarchical and unequal world. This is why it requires a tyrannical government to enforce.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379175 163019708,163035116,2018-03-06 23:32:57,">>163034924 oh yeah you're right nevermind lol Sleep with one eye open anon, I think the McSecret Police are on the hunt for stupid niggers",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379177 163019708,163035119,2018-03-06 23:32:59,">>163034972 >Socialism is still better than capitalism Not an argument. I'm point out your hypocrisy. You love communism and its ""leaders"", despite the fact everything they did and how those countries were run are nothing at all like communism. Even in the slightest. >hurr durr classless society *blocks your path*",,Anonymous,Stalin.jpg,pz/96kHVGFmFKnTmAYmosQ==,US,,1520379179 163019708,163035156,2018-03-06 23:33:24,">>163034818 You're an idiot. Unions are for the people. They impede production whenever the rights of the people they protect are recovered.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379204 163019708,163035158,2018-03-06 23:33:26,">>163035075 Care to elaborate?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379206 163019708,163035200,2018-03-06 23:33:56,">>163035100 A group that values workers over entrepreneurs and investors is still a special interest group that seeks to destroy prosperity",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379236 163019708,163035221,2018-03-06 23:34:15,">>163035156 >The people Don't you mean the state?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379255 163019708,163035272,2018-03-06 23:34:59,">>163035158 >>163035119 See above ^",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379299 163019708,163035296,2018-03-06 23:35:15,">>163035221 Under communism, they're one in the same",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379315 163019708,163035308,2018-03-06 23:35:25,">>163035156 Unions at one point had a purpose but they mostly exist to reduce production and, therefore, reduce real wages for society as a whole, all for the good of one special interest.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379325 163019708,163035325,2018-03-06 23:35:39,">>163035119 >Not an argument. There was no argument to respond to in the first place, it was just an edgy shitpost >the fact everything they did and how those countries were run are nothing at all like communism. Even in the slightest. Then why do you hate us? If we're just fashy oppressive racist tyrants like the rest of /pol/, why does everyone hate us so much?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379339 163019708,163035352,2018-03-06 23:35:57,">>163034913 They shut it down because it started accelerating towards Union men. Would've gone towards the Founders too.",,Anonymous,1508051962278.jpg,iZ9b5GdfFco7JxHMm4ikjA==,,,1520379357 163019708,163035375,2018-03-06 23:36:10,">>163035200 Cry harder, cuck. We're here to stay and the left is growing more powerful every day.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379370 163019708,163035383,2018-03-06 23:36:15,">>163035296 so People=State=Public Sector is that right?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1520379375 163019708,163035388,2018-03-06 23:36:18,">>163034277 >working class Working class were best off with the progress during the age of liberalism and liberty in the 19th century baby. Working class were worst off under Marxist leaders.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379378 163019708,163035412,2018-03-06 23:36:31,">>163035296 How would you know? Communism has never been achieved since getting there has been proved to be a failure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379391 163019708,163035432,2018-03-06 23:36:48,">>163035325 Because you're supporting a system that doesn't work. Whenever its attempted millions of people are murdered and they never even come close to the purposed goals of communism, why? Because its impossible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379408 163019708,163035447,2018-03-06 23:36:56,">>163035383 yes",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379416 163019708,163035469,2018-03-06 23:37:09,">>163035375 Until they destroy the economy with nonsensical policies and then capitalists come and put the broken pieces back together",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379429 163019708,163035470,2018-03-06 23:37:11,">>163035325 It's such an oversimplification to suggest that most of us respect fascists over commies or vice versa. Commies are simply easier to meme about",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379431 163019708,163035537,2018-03-06 23:38:00,">>163035156 Unions are made so that workers aren't screwed over by abusive entrepreneurs, they're not trying to impede production, just negotiate regulations to protect the bottom half of private business. It's still beneficial to capitalism because if we cut our 12 hour shifts to 8 hours, I'll be happier and have more time with my kids and still produce capital and be paid for my efforts in return.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379480 163019708,163035577,2018-03-06 23:38:28,">>163035388 The anarchist working class movement has been massively liberating through out history. This is what real anarchism (freedom) looks like; not that ancaps ever leave their moms basement.",,Anonymous,547398_10150758746726023_1766635136_n.jpg,3psZOwoE03GIeXrYHirKlg==,,,1520379508 163019708,163035582,2018-03-06 23:38:30,"Daily reminder , lolbergtards have always sucked fascists' dick ever since fascism was on the rise.",,Anonymous,quote-it-cannot-be-denied-that-fascism-and-similar-movements-aiming-at-the-establishment-of-ludwig-von-mises-69-39-11.jpg,9QvQLBMFSKthD8aRYgjvvw==,,,1520379510 163019708,163035628,2018-03-06 23:39:00,">>163035470 Yeah, this. Commies are gayer",,Anonymous,1516237573260.jpg,Ew7N9EcJLMiaxatC6N2efg==,,,1520379540 163019708,163035637,2018-03-06 23:39:03,">>163035412 No, the communist systems thus tried were'nt true communism. In a successful communist society, the rights and needs of the people are completely handled by the government. Thus, the people ARE the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379543 163019708,163035649,2018-03-06 23:39:10,">>163035582 Facists are socialists...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379550 163019708,163035664,2018-03-06 23:39:27,">>163035649 no they aren't",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379567 163019708,163035736,2018-03-06 23:40:22,"Natsoc/Fash here Have some legit questions since I really like ancap butI just have a few gripes with it It's my understanding that there can't really be an ethnostate with ancap. Is the assumption that ancap --> open borders wrong? Additionally, if Ancap is too much for me, what about Libertarianism? Can an ethnostate exist under small gov't, like Libertarianism calls for? What's to stop people from falling into degeneracy? Don't the fucking degenerates need a powerful state to physically remove them? redpill me on ancap/libertarianism",,Anon,,,US,,1520379622 163019708,163035757,2018-03-06 23:40:45,">>163035447 Ok gotcha, so how does the public sector alone achieve Allocative, Dynamic or Technical Efficiency. Or let alone increase Aggregate Supply without becoming imperialistic?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1520379645 163019708,163035759,2018-03-06 23:40:49,">>163035649 lmao , kys you fucking mong",,Anonymous,NatSoc_Economy_2.jpg,FtNyE/8rKet0bdH7V3p70Q==,,,1520379649 163019708,163035762,2018-03-06 23:40:50,">>163035637 How do you know if people in state are corrupt or not? And what do you do about it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379650 163019708,163035783,2018-03-06 23:41:02,">>163035577 Spain isn't a good example, they still had to ration things and issued ""coupons"" to redeem goods. Which got much worse as the shortages started because of terrible mismanagement. Then of course they got fucking rolled over by the government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379662 163019708,163035797,2018-03-06 23:41:08,">>163035664 Please give me an example of a facist party that came to power without ties to marxist socialist principles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379668 163019708,163035800,2018-03-06 23:41:10,,,Anonymous,anticom.png,JTzICqwsstz3MIyx/QEQ2Q==,,,1520379670 163019708,163035817,2018-03-06 23:41:19,">>163034430 >Can even one of you idiots explain to me how Libertarianism could work in the real world? Without a state? I can. First to be clear 'without a state' refers to Anarchism. That is what I will explain. Next I am old cancer honed like a ancient katana from the olden days of usenet, so pay attention sonny: Take a look at any society that was dominated by religion previously, and is not dominated by it now. That is how Anarchy will work without the State.",,Anonymous,shhh-be-vewy-vewy-quiet.jpg,2MTbqf1cgsK1A6l2+TL/Hg==,,,1520379679 163019708,163035821,2018-03-06 23:41:21,">>163035797 nazis",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379681 163019708,163035863,2018-03-06 23:41:48,">>163035637 >dictatorship of the proletariat Has and literally never will happen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379708 163019708,163035890,2018-03-06 23:42:11,">>163035783 Everyone had rations in WW2. Even the United States, cuck.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379731 163019708,163035946,2018-03-06 23:42:45,">>163035863 Cause cucks like you keep crushing it, lol.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379765 163019708,163035949,2018-03-06 23:42:48,">>163035736 Well, Instead of ethnicity being what is celebrated and kept pure, meritocracy, social mobility, and making a name for yourself is the purist ideal. No matter what race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379768 163019708,163035964,2018-03-06 23:42:59,">>163035736 In an anarcho capitalist society, freedom of association and disassociation would be maximized completely and races would be free to voluntarily segregate. You could easily have white homogeneous societies. As for minimal state libertarianism (minarchist), also easily imaginable. A nation that consists of free markets and other libertarian principles with a strong, strict national border could be an ethnostate. Though, in order to maintain this level of freedom, it would be advised to avoid democracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379779 163019708,163035966,2018-03-06 23:43:01,">>163035762 Internal investigations by the government. It can never be corrupt, the purpose of the system is for the benefit of the people. How would you ever know that anyone in an ancap society is corrupt? There would be no institution to investigate internally!",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379781 163019708,163035989,2018-03-06 23:43:17,">>163035736 In AnCap, whites would form their own coalition and form their own boundaries. There are no boundaries set by the state. In libertaranism, it might be possible to form your own state if the government lacks the authority to prevent you from doing so. It would be hard since there is still a government which holds its own sovereign territory.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379797 163019708,163036066,2018-03-06 23:44:22,,,Anonymous,anticom1.png,z05p1oSaP1lvsggpFUgZmA==,,,1520379862 163019708,163036067,2018-03-06 23:44:23,">>163035890 >rationed goods >redeemable in coupons >communism",,Anonymous,17155531_134667363725206_6903496554516882398_n.jpg,es6Oqf+bSxoH3Rx91mOHsg==,US,,1520379863 163019708,163036116,2018-03-06 23:44:59,">>163035116 I love you too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379899 163019708,163036119,2018-03-06 23:45:01,">>163035946 If Communism fails every time it's tried because outside forces defeat it, it is a weak and shitty system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379901 163019708,163036131,2018-03-06 23:45:09,">>163035582 Fascism is a perfectly logical response to communism. It is the equivalent of bringing a gun to a gun-fight. Physical removal is necessary for whites to retain liberty in their societies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379909 163019708,163036133,2018-03-06 23:45:13,">>163035759 >Shows a shitty microsoft powerpoint graph of first imperialist 2nd reich germany using a mercantalist system. The post WW1 Great depression, then Hitler's socialist plan pulling Germany out of the slums through propoganda, state controlled industry, and ethno centric scapegoating.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379913 163019708,163036149,2018-03-06 23:45:20,">>163035821 national socialists you fuckin retard fascist commie",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520379920 163019708,163036171,2018-03-06 23:45:32,">>163035946 The USSR and China had all the opportunity to establish this. Also you're implying that communism cannot compete and win out over other systems.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520379932 163019708,163036217,2018-03-06 23:46:10,">>163035736 i think for identitarians, the best route for the US would be Jared Taylor's model of limited immigration and free association. Combine that with the elimination of the welfare state you would have less nigs leeching on the economy, less spics trying to make it over the border. >What is there to stop people from falling into degeneracy? ""Where there is still a people, it hates the state as the evil eye and the sin against customs and rights,"" _Thus Spoke Zarathustra This is something both Leftists and fascists often miss. Statism is most often the source of modernity. If you try to combat modernity with more statism you only imbibe more of the same poison. That's why Greg Johnson is an idiot on this. If you want to revitalize culture, reduce the size of government and restore older institutions like church and local autonomy. It's a win win for capitalists, traditionalists, and white nationalists. Also is there a /pol/ libertarian discord?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1520379970 163019708,163036249,2018-03-06 23:46:30,">>163035577 > mums basement Socialists admit they don't have jobs. Look at all the threads of ""how did you become a marxist"" its always ""oh my single mother was always poor and dad worked a corporate job and left us"" blah blah blah. Real freedom is voluntaryism and individualism, mobs trying to steal shit doesn't count.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520379990 163019708,163036297,2018-03-06 23:47:04,">>163036149 No!",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380024 163019708,163036321,2018-03-06 23:47:19,">>163036131 Physical removal doesn't require NatSoc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520380039 163019708,163036400,2018-03-06 23:48:22,>>163036297,,Anonymous,16807320_10154581109113621_3031631010285612934_n.jpg,mhlVtepM401l8Vc0CyAQ2A==,US,,1520380102 163019708,163036417,2018-03-06 23:48:35,">>163035582 > the one quote Mises ever said about Facists, once against taken out of context and the rest of what hes says straight after it is completely ignored Yeah man, Mises and Hayek are soooo bad unlke that angel Marx, he really worked hard and looked after his family hey? Facist and Marxist intellectuals are the biggest grubs and the only criticisms levelled at Liberty focused thinkers is quotes out of context.",,Anonymous,Omnipotent Government The Rise of the Total State and Total War.jpg,xrDKedIKie5LOJ//eiEk1g==,,,1520380115 163019708,163036419,2018-03-06 23:48:36,">>163036217 >reduce the size of government and restore older institutions like church and local autonomy. Do all of this without being influenced externally",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380116 163019708,163036600,2018-03-06 23:50:49,">>163034222 fuckin checked",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520380249 163019708,163036611,2018-03-06 23:50:52,">>163036419 exactly the paleoconservative idea of the radical localisation of state power is vital",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1520380252 163019708,163036614,2018-03-06 23:50:54,">>163036297 Na-zi >NaTiOnAal >sOzIaLiStIsChE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520380254 163019708,163036656,2018-03-06 23:51:35,">>163036600 Checked as well my dude",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380295 163019708,163036659,2018-03-06 23:51:37,">>163035964 Do you see a future of the USA where it's a Libertarian white ethnostate? Is it feasible to mash together a sort of libertarian fascist ideolioy? Half of the country is already completely on board with strong borders and freedom for current residents at the same time. It's hard for me to explain but I'm totally OK with a strong fascist & monolithic ethnostate and a libertarian/ancap ""state"" at the same time. The only thing I can't get behind is multicultural socialism. I'd be OK with social programs/taxes if I could be 100% confident that it was going to my fellow whites who legitimately needed help. In an ethnostate it's expected that all residents have pride for their kind and wish to help eachother, no? sorry for incoherent rambling",,Anon,,,US,,1520380297 163019708,163036693,2018-03-06 23:52:06,">>163036614 There's no point arguing with him, logic was the root of communism",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380326 163019708,163036768,2018-03-06 23:53:02,">>163036659 You might be interested in looking up paleo-conservatism, like pat buchanan type, I think that fits your ideological niche",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380382 163019708,163036808,2018-03-06 23:53:23,">>163036659 yes but its more plausible for the US at a state or city state level. So the most vital thing to consider is localisation.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1520380403 163019708,163036830,2018-03-06 23:53:41,">>163036119 Communism as a primary social construct for any group larger then say 10-20 people goes against human nature. That is why it fails, and will always fail. The only way to pretend it will is working is to have a State hold it together by force. The only real Communism that can work is: 1) Within a family unit 2) Within a small group activity (sports, coding projects, etc) But for a society, no, never.",,Anonymous,homernote.jpg,xFCN8dK+4YElbhdWizMg0g==,,,1520380421 163019708,163036831,2018-03-06 23:53:42,">>163036611 Yeah the ""idea"" of it is vital, but try to actually implement that successfully with all this feel good free association hippy stuff",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380422 163019708,163036865,2018-03-06 23:54:11,">>163036693 it's fun to argue, because all they've had is ad-hom, anecdotal evidence, and mishapen European history. :) I have Western civ exams in a few months it's a good review",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520380451 163019708,163036870,2018-03-06 23:54:14,">>163036417 >h-he wasn't a fashy goy",,Anonymous,ludwig von mises fascism.png,Ihz9dBDWTuV9eyt+NaVP0Q==,,,1520380454 163019708,163036877,2018-03-06 23:54:20,">>163036600 >>163034222 Solzhenitsyn clearly blessin you guys. > Post yfw card holding party members are arrested and sent to Gulag for no reason and then have to make up reasons to themselves to tell their families so they don't lose faith in the party",,Anonymous,tumblr_o3cp8ca2i31tjydheo1_500.gif,ZcgPIb5Zpu6Y5Ea/4j8NDw==,,,1520380460 163019708,163036939,2018-03-06 23:55:05,">>163036870 > gooogle Do yourself and the world a favour and read what he actually wrote retard, you might learn something.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380505 163019708,163036983,2018-03-06 23:55:38,">>163036870 I had to trudge through Marx, Trotsky and the Fabians it's the least you could do to clear up your misconceptions about the man and the movement/ideas.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380538 163019708,163037007,2018-03-06 23:56:02,">>163036830 I disagree. Communism is still widely invalid in prehistoric man or small units to include family. >hunter gatherer compete over share of food and women >family parents are authoritative and often one has more say than the other >sports, team captain",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520380562 163019708,163037013,2018-03-06 23:56:06,">>163036939 no because that would require effort and a thirst for ideas that challenge ones own. Commies don't do that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520380566 163019708,163037072,2018-03-06 23:56:47,">>163036656 god speed my dude >>163036659 you can easily have a libertarian society that is not culturally tolerant of criminals and commie fascists",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520380607 163019708,163037165,2018-03-06 23:58:03,">>163036865 Good man, best of luck with the exam, nothing better prepares you then arguing with a brick wall",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380683 163019708,163037180,2018-03-06 23:58:13,">>163036983 and Marx had no idea what would happen after all those European mid 1800's revolutions. He guessed on a new world happening after them. THE ENTIRE COMMUNIST AGENDA AND REGIME WAS FOUNDED ON A 19TH CENTURY GUESS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520380693 163019708,163037230,2018-03-06 23:58:49,">>163037072 so i assume it's impossible for the entire USA to become libertarian? > who would fund the military if taxation is theft? > muh ROADS I have a hard time believing that all of it would be taken care of privately. BUT i also don't like being told at threat of jail time to give up my hard earned shekels to the kikes",,Anon,,,US,,1520380729 163019708,163037238,2018-03-06 23:58:58,">>163036659 It's basically just NatSoc my man We already learned our lesson about what happens when you try to preserve an ethnostate through just culture and not violent enforcement by a government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380738 163019708,163037249,2018-03-06 23:59:07,">>163037180 The 19th century Guess Movement >Fucking kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520380747 163019708,163037256,2018-03-06 23:59:13,">>163036983 Marx and Trotsky was hard enough for me, I cant imagine what the Fabians was like",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380753 163019708,163037350,2018-03-07 00:00:20,">>163036659 National capitalism is a weird ideology emerging nowadays, maybe you're looking for something like that? Kind of like Switzerland on steroids. Very strong borders, free markets, and liberty for those within the state. Compared to the current system, I would be okay with a system like this. However, I obviously prefer the private law society of anarcho-capitalism. You'd also have a very difficult time convincing libertarians like me to be okay with social programs and income taxes in this kind of society. Hoppe-type libertarians and fascists like you have some common goals and ideas, such as a natural hierarchy in life, race realism, emphasis on culture, hatred of marxism, and the wish for homogeneous society. I'm not sure what answer I can give you. The only kind of state I could be fairly okay with living in is the kind I described.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380820 163019708,163037460,2018-03-07 00:01:39,">>163036659 >>163037238 >We already learned our lesson about what happens when you try to preserve an ethnostate through just culture and not violent enforcement by a government. And also when that culture is so individualist, I forgot to add. ""Live and let live"" is not compatible nationalism",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380899 163019708,163037465,2018-03-07 00:01:42,">>163037350 So it's kind of like natural hierarchy in the market and the people?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520380902 163019708,163037503,2018-03-07 00:02:04,">>163037256 >>163037180 kek >>163037256 They are incredibly eye openning. You can trace the history of these western marxists for a century, the painful part is that they know 3/4 of our arguments they just don't care. They think we're neo-liberal boogeymen.",,Anonymous,Tom-Cruise-crazy-laugh.gif,suZab3bIvh67FppWMzMc0w==,,,1520380924 163019708,163037538,2018-03-07 00:02:31,">>163037460 Wouldn't seperated strong states sort of foster their own live and let live mentality through their own Autonomy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520380951 163019708,163037562,2018-03-07 00:02:45,">>163036119 >understands nothing of history >>163036171 Marx recanted later in his life that an ideal form of the D.o.p would look more like the Paris commune, frankly I care less about the ussr and China but it's pretty a historical to call them outright failures. Marx never said all that much on what a communist society would look like. He pointed out the infinite contradictions of capitalism that would result in its demise. He was subject to the window of his time abd could not see beyond that. A revolution would either have to be libertarian socialist or global abd with the rate of profits tendency to fall and the internet this could very well be the case in the future. That being said the United States is Light years ahead of Russia (another factor in why Russia was shit under the ussr and the United states did well.) even a soviet style democratic system would work fairly well in the American economy, imo.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380965 163019708,163037587,2018-03-07 00:03:04,">>163037350 We aren't going to force you to live in our nation, friend. We're fine with you leaving.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520380984 163019708,163037618,2018-03-07 00:03:26,">>163037230 kek why would it be impossible",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520381006 163019708,163037626,2018-03-07 00:03:34,">>163037562 >19th century guess movement",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520381014 163019708,163037654,2018-03-07 00:04:01,">>163037230 i think youre confusing total ancap with libertarian",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520381041 163019708,163037701,2018-03-07 00:04:44,">>163037538 Libertarian philosophy doesn't distinguish between state-level or federal-level government, if it's oppressing the individual, it's all ""statism""",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381084 163019708,163037733,2018-03-07 00:05:12,">>163037587 Relax, larper. Remember what you're still up against before you have anything close to the socialist ethnostate of your dreams.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381112 163019708,163037740,2018-03-07 00:05:20,">>163037503 I guess ill have to give it a go then, its like a car wreck, you cant look away no matter how bad",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381120 163019708,163037777,2018-03-07 00:05:48,">>163037701 thanks for clearing that up :)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520381148 163019708,163037857,2018-03-07 00:06:53,">>163037701 You can decentralize and have further competition, even Mises made that connection that Rothbard later finished. Mises actually sat there and went: > states have a right to secede and decentralize > localities have a right to secede and decentralize > towns have a right to secede and decentralize > every individual has the ri-.....nah that's a little crazy but hey and Rothbard just went...yes every individual should be able to secede and control their destiny.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381213 163019708,163037891,2018-03-07 00:07:16,">>163037733 >what you're still up against Not you, since you don't exist IRL. The commies are useful idiots and accelerationists. The (((capitalists))) will more than likely recreate the Great Depression and 1933 conditions. If not, we can out-jew the jew",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381236 163019708,163037936,2018-03-07 00:07:57,">>163037740 Look up the Fabian Tracts, there's wiki lists of them and theres an online library with them scanned, find some with interesting titles. Some even detail how the marxist movement split because of the soviet union failure and how they shifted to gradualism and keynesianism.",,Anonymous,Fabian Tract - Socialism and the Welfare State - Highlighted.jpg,oMth32m8KURQgzuHS8MEvw==,,,1520381277 163019708,163037981,2018-03-07 00:08:27,">>163037891 >Not you, since you don't exist IRL. I don't?",,Anonymous,1516235103609.gif,Kh44T6U/slKxfHG9k+keUQ==,,,1520381307 163019708,163038002,2018-03-07 00:08:43,">>163037857 The further competition isn't worth the massive instability and vulnerability to the people as a whole. There are enough white nation-states as it stands.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381323 163019708,163038003,2018-03-07 00:08:42,">>163036939 >oh no, he posted historical evidence >oh wait , I can tell da commies to reed",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381322 163019708,163038057,2018-03-07 00:09:18,">>163037777 FUCKIIIINN CHECKEDDD THE LIGHT OF TRUTH",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520381358 163019708,163038101,2018-03-07 00:09:53,">>163037981 >I don't? No. Dixies, federalists, nazis, commies, all these guys have historical RL precedence Ancap has yet to be anything more than an internet meme",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381393 163019708,163038134,2018-03-07 00:10:10,">>163037562 >libertarian socialist Not a single shred of communist ideology is libertarian, especially in practice. The pie in the sky idea of communism, maybe. However for communism to be libertarian it would require every person to VOLUNTARY give up their property to others. That doesn't happen, instead you have authoritarian seizures of property, which is never redistributed to the fucking people anyway. It's always without exception taken by the government or ruling body or w/e.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520381410 163019708,163038149,2018-03-07 00:10:19,">>163038003 >19th century guess movement",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520381419 163019708,163038216,2018-03-07 00:11:05,">>163038003 > evidence It's someone writing about Mises, go read Mises in context.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381465 163019708,163038244,2018-03-07 00:11:26,">>163037891 >The (((capitalists))) will more than likely recreate the Great Depression and 1933 conditions >central communist banking >capitalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520381486 163019708,163038323,2018-03-07 00:12:09,"Unfortunately true, which puts consistent libertarians in a tough situation until the movement takes off more, if it ever does.",,Anonymous,1486888546459.png,453O33L9b7FWfsb/ss6F4A==,,,1520381529 163019708,163038332,2018-03-07 00:12:14,">>163038244 >not real capitalism! two sides of the same coin indeed I threw you a bone and put it in echoes, man.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381534 163019708,163038354,2018-03-07 00:12:37,">>163038134 Awh, the poor King. Some one think of the crown!",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381557 163019708,163038514,2018-03-07 00:14:51,">>163037007 I said 'can work' not 'always works'. Regardless, you're off track. Communism is economic based: Daddy makes money shares it with the family. Daddy also makes all the rules of the house. The family shares most food, property, etc. That's communal living, and that's real communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381691 163019708,163038560,2018-03-07 00:15:27,">>163038332 >a centralized authority who literally controls money supply as well as who gets subsides (picking winners in the market) >capitalism Yeah, nah you're a cunt. It's socialism in action. >>163038354 >every business owner is a king Nice deflection though. I'm sure you're next king (see literally every communist dictator in history) will get it right this time.",,Anonymous,1519954347958.jpg,4+GKyZaUM5WQZE+8QxjIuQ==,US,,1520381727 163019708,163038635,2018-03-07 00:16:18,">>163038354 the king that taxes the peasants you stupid fag",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520381778 163019708,163038656,2018-03-07 00:16:36,">>163038560 >Yeah, nah you're a cunt. The jews are better at long term business than us, your precious free market will always result in them centralizing. Stop clinging to systems that disadvantage you",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381796 163019708,163038671,2018-03-07 00:16:47,">>163036831 read Chase Rachels' White Right and Libertarian",,Anonymous,wrlibterian.jpg,gYzLVJXp+F7Lfv3MvWVoTA==,AU,,1520381807 163019708,163038811,2018-03-07 00:18:38,">>163038656 You're talking about a system that is outside of capitalism upheld by the state and using it to argue against capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520381918 163019708,163038821,2018-03-07 00:18:41,">>163038671 I might, but i'm not really interested in theory man. What I want has already been demonstrated.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381921 163019708,163038831,2018-03-07 00:18:49,">>163036133 >state controlled industry there was hardly any",,Anonymous,nazi privatisation.png,OPUzNv3xWX+Lanyan7RkxA==,,,1520381929 163019708,163038865,2018-03-07 00:19:22,">>163038811 I'm talking about a system that has resulted from capitalism This is the harvest you've reaped. >Yeah he's a Jew but he makes me a lot of money!",,Anonymous,,,,,1520381962 163090535,163090535,2018-03-07 13:15:34,No links,/lrg/ Libertarian Right General -No Taxation for White Nation Edition,Anonymous,1512070468107.png,pahV9M5BL7ue49um4zufZA==,,,1520428534 163090535,163090576,2018-03-07 13:16:00,,,Anonymous,1516809554185.png,xA/ACAmBiZCsYyUYEk1MRg==,,,1520428560 163090535,163090646,2018-03-07 13:16:44,,,Anonymous,1520265268889.png,FTtHbltaLv+ftQV4aqx2UA==,,,1520428604 163090535,163090691,2018-03-07 13:17:09,,,Anonymous,1511450236613.png,NckyHMmKIW85H9Z5UJGKqw==,,,1520428629 163090535,163091382,2018-03-07 13:24:31,Oh fuck yes. I was about to start one of these.,,Anonymous,2e54a6e899c4b787b3744126a0a66d3785262790b69c6ef81ecb878eb3111b9d.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,,,1520429071 163090535,163091557,2018-03-07 13:26:08,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsXwxif4dQ4 thread theme.,,Anonymous,1513647882888.jpg,7HU8QWOp/+CHcPyJHni3Jw==,,,1520429168 163090535,163091971,2018-03-07 13:30:24,"When did libertarianism become so keked by statism? >Libertarianism five years ago: ""We need to create a society that respects individual liberty and rejects the notion of giving authority to the state beyond infastructure, taxation, and defense"" >Libertarianism now: ""We need a king and to give him/the state the power to determine what is 'acceptable' behavior and remove by force anyone who does not act in an 'acceptable' manner"" These clowns masquerading as libertarians need to be exposed for the authoritarians they actually are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520429424 163090535,163092216,2018-03-07 13:32:50,">>163091971 >We need a king and to give him/the state the power to determine what is 'acceptable' behavior and remove by force anyone who does not act in an 'acceptable' manner Cite one instance of a self-identified libertarian saying something of this nature.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520429570 163090535,163092278,2018-03-07 13:33:25,">>163091971 I think you are confusing several different types of libertarians today. First, there are libertarians that advocate for a monarchy over a democracy (Hoppean idea) in that they believe a monarch could maintain a libertarian order far better than a democracy has been able to. Second, there's libertarians that advocate for private libertarian communes (Hoppean again) where only like-minded people (no democracy or communism) can live in peace. Third, there are libertarianish people today who want a Pinochet-type dictator to mass-murder communists and give us liberty by force.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520429605 163090535,163092364,2018-03-07 13:34:20,">>163091382 >tfw no ancap gf",,Anonymous,1503883319812.png,JdsG+HMgqi+9La27rYMRvg==,,,1520429660 163090535,163092718,2018-03-07 13:38:07,"austrian economics debunked (redpill overdose) TRIGGER WARNING: FACTS AHEAD!! tl;dr >gold standard is unstable and not a viable currency, susceptible to fraud and dependent upon mining >they are openly anti-scientific, rely on ""praxeology"", they are philosopher at best >dumb ideology funded by koch brothers think tanks (CATO) to convince ignorant armchair economists >every prediction they had is proven wrong >they business cycle theory is wrong >they don't use scientific method, no maths, no statistics, nothing, just speculation >only used as political rhetoric by ron paul to rile up his gadsen-flag hillbilly voterbase >all of peter schiff's predictions are wrong, he has been preaching doomsday for decades >mainstream economics agrees with less than half of their policy >literally no respects austrian economists today, abandoned as early as 1950's >only good thing to come out of it was Hayek, who wasn't even Austrian since he rejects praxeology. He contributed to price theory, and added to the socialist calculation problem. Also his philosophy is superior and way more nuanced compared to mises/rothbard.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1520429887 163090535,163092738,2018-03-07 13:38:16,">>163092364 Where are all the libertarian girls in this world",,Anonymous,c5c2c2cde56f01b9b206486e7f025da3c049ee4d5c326c295ccae7410a3e4550.png,Wn3qPwZ1llzuwwvsIDp+HA==,,,1520429896 163090535,163092749,2018-03-07 13:38:23,">>163092718 top global econ journals, ZERO positive austrian results, all negative! outdated! wrong! pseudoscience! https://academic.oup.com/qje/search-results?page=1&q=austrian&fl_SiteID=5504&allJournals=1&SearchSourceType=1 https://academic.oup.com/restud/search-results?page=1&q=austrian%20economics&fl_SiteID=5508&allJournals=1&SearchSourceType=1 https://www.aeaweb.org/journals/mac/search-results?within%5Btitle%5D=on&within%5Babstract%5D=on&within%5Bauthor%5D=on&within%5BjelCode%5D=0&journal=6&q=austrian+economics https://www.aeaweb.org/journals/jep/search-results?within%5Btitle%5D=on&within%5Babstract%5D=on&within%5Bauthor%5D=on&journal=3&q=austrian+economics http://www.igmchicago.org/igm-economic-experts-panel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_economics ihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_neoclassical_synthesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_consensus_of_economics http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00220480309595230 https://mainlymacro.blogspot.nl/2017/04/economics-is-inexact-science.html https://thesis.eur.nl/pub/39717/Master-Thesis-Nicolas-Bernerman.pdf https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1530995 https://recoveringaustrians.wordpress.com/top-ten-austrian-economic-lies-and-mistakes/ http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/whyaust.htm https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/top-ten-lies-and-mistakes-of-austrian-economics/ https://hallingblog.com/2015/09/08/praxeology-an-intellectual-train-wreck/ https://www.reddit.com/r/badeconomics/search?q=austrian&restrict_sr=on http://www.jstor.org/stable/2138469 http://www.econlib.org/library/Topics/College/marketfailures.html https://www.colorado.edu/economics/morey/4545/introductory/marketfailures.pdf https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1py0a8/eli5why_is_the_gold_standard_bad_feel_free_to/ https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-criticisms-of-the-Austrian-school-of-economic-thought https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/eej.2012.32",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1520429903 163090535,163092784,2018-03-07 13:38:43,">>163092749 you are getting (((nosed))) lolberts https://www.economist.com/news/business/21711504-his-theory-management-inspired-austrian-school-economic-thought-worked-wonders want to learn REAL economics? no problem, open source PDF book https://openstax.org/subjects/ Blogs (neurtal-center right) http://marginalrevolution.com/ https://uneasymoney.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/wiki/blogs http://econlog.econlib.org/",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1520429923 163090535,163092981,2018-03-07 13:40:35,">>163092738 Liberty's a pretty masculine concept.",,Anonymous,Reproductive Strategies.jpg,RGhF1lVCWdS5Vn4JGwu7iw==,US,,1520430035 163090535,163093060,2018-03-07 13:41:38,Who has more a e s t h e t i c libertarian pics,,Anonymous,1515387190036.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,,,1520430098 163090535,163093121,2018-03-07 13:42:23,>>163093060,,Anonymous,H O P P E.png,urrdlrmv0PcKNs6dBBRYfQ==,US,,1520430143 163090535,163093159,2018-03-07 13:42:45,,,Anonymous,1506312711741.jpg,vIVYRag7/KMyXigQMyFIWw==,US,,1520430165 163090535,163093163,2018-03-07 13:42:47,,,Anonymous,1514823087743.jpg,fV7hFw5EBSu1bTwX1M+QfA==,,,1520430167 163090535,163093197,2018-03-07 13:43:02,,,Anonymous,1508439247272.jpg,CH/4jAU13jZgkXunhhld/A==,US,,1520430182 163090535,163093210,2018-03-07 13:43:09,,,Anonymous,1506795221849.jpg,l066R7o6T2FK7CQYbNDbVQ==,,,1520430189 163090535,163093229,2018-03-07 13:43:21,,,Anonymous,1508978329166.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,US,,1520430201 163090535,163093256,2018-03-07 13:43:36,>>163093060,,Anonymous,glitch_art_20180206174010.jpg,uYTeJu9EFBwfzrBlxtUo5g==,US,,1520430216 163090535,163093283,2018-03-07 13:43:50,,,Anonymous,1510343511035.png,kKcuyR3CWM0sY/Wq4KpC/w==,,,1520430230 163090535,163093324,2018-03-07 13:44:11,">>163090535 Toss me discord invite please. I hope you don’t mind intellectual arguments.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1520430251 163090535,163093343,2018-03-07 13:44:21,,,Anonymous,1509902297034.png,9FzuelM7b5rL6aYH5Fj2Ow==,US,,1520430261 163090535,163093355,2018-03-07 13:44:30,,,Anonymous,1510332781916.png,Uvjx9UjzJD1sbUeJEkjGkQ==,,,1520430270 163090535,163093374,2018-03-07 13:44:35,Here's a new one,,Anonymous,Removal aesthetic.jpg,umLJ5FWJQp4J5S1d5TtEdQ==,US,,1520430275 163090535,163093469,2018-03-07 13:45:31,,,Anonymous,21yearold.jpg,M6UI6VhYl8QjFaPFax3wrg==,US,,1520430331 163090535,163093518,2018-03-07 13:45:51,">>163093324 I am not in the discord sorry.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520430351 163090535,163093598,2018-03-07 13:46:45,">>163093324 Here you go: vrpSeqq",,Anonymous,1510328464123.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,US,,1520430405 163090535,163093627,2018-03-07 13:47:02,,,Anonymous,1510328844887.jpg,uRDNRYfpXAnIsqkFwYlaeQ==,US,,1520430422 163090535,163093653,2018-03-07 13:47:15,,,Anonymous,school-killings-around-the-world4.png,/D1hEnwuAygo0QlDXUQZAw==,NL,,1520430435 163090535,163093687,2018-03-07 13:47:29,,,Anonymous,1510357435959.jpg,IwmHFqIak1ElNXtQyVVXLw==,US,,1520430449 163090535,163093693,2018-03-07 13:47:33,>>163093653,,Anonymous,gans5.jpg,n8K5yyzgk5c4IVc0IQzjXw==,NL,,1520430453 163090535,163093738,2018-03-07 13:47:56,>>163093693,,Anonymous,obesity.png,3X/b58PnhDeCcVtK9gyhYg==,NL,,1520430476 163090535,163093812,2018-03-07 13:48:39,>Zl76t8lF,,Anonymous,800.png,bo0zSKdMqdu9/XqWl7VJjg==,US,,1520430519 163090535,163093908,2018-03-07 13:49:30,">>163093693 take your retarded shill posts some where else. Your graph does not account for niggers.",,Anonymous,1519238123164.jpg,OekwgQQTY1LhAYe+78r5jA==,,,1520430570 163090535,163093912,2018-03-07 13:49:31,"Question: How would disputes and conflicts be settled in high population-density urban areas? In small communities I could definitely see a system like in ancient Ireland or Iceland, where the parties would choose a reputable judge to resolve their conflict, but in somewhere like New York City, people don't really know each other.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520430571 163090535,163093936,2018-03-07 13:49:48,,,Anonymous,BmQ0fWY.jpg,cD5zNcC3NSLHnJ3u3/zb1g==,US,,1520430588 163090535,163093948,2018-03-07 13:49:57,"Can green-square liberals such as myself still be allies of the libertarians? I support ending the Fed, gun rights, the right of private businesses to discriminate, non-interventionist foreign policy, and restricted immigration.",,Anonymous,000.png,GKgYmTN2Ta1y/jRkOZy/og==,,,1520430597 163090535,163094079,2018-03-07 13:51:24,">>163093948 You could be an ally in some endeavors but I would say this general is not for you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520430684 163090535,163094087,2018-03-07 13:51:27,">>163093948 how did you end up there when you support all these things?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520430687 163090535,163094367,2018-03-07 13:54:19,">>163094079 >>163094087 I align with Bernie Sanders when it comes to economic views. Any good red-pilling books/vids that espouse the benefits of free markets as opposed to socialism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520430859 163090535,163094380,2018-03-07 13:54:25,"are there any good ancap groups that i could join I'm pretty new to ancapistan",,Anonymous,,,,,1520430865 163090535,163094642,2018-03-07 13:57:21,">>163093912 High-density populations require either >Ethno-cultural homogeneity or >A centralized court system The former would have a higher trust amongst citizens, so there's little inherent animosity and conflict-resolution can be decentralized to a certain extent. Hong Kong is a good example of this. The latter would be a police state like Singapore, where there is a high degree of diversity, but the government, by necessity, is draconian on domestic policy. Tamils, chinks, malays, etc. have such wildly different cultural backgrounds that they require a neutral law to be enforced with an iron fist (if they're going to live together).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520431041 163090535,163094751,2018-03-07 13:58:37,">>163094367 This is the list /lrg/ usually recommends.",,Anonymous,ancap studies.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,US,,1520431117 163090535,163094762,2018-03-07 13:58:49,">>163094367 One of the greatest books on the matter is A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. Hoppe masterfully goes over the economic and ethical problems with socialism and then argues why capitalism is both economically and ethically superior.",,Anonymous,300px-HansHoppe.jpg,v5EzeMNc8afT/sUGpbHRAQ==,,,1520431129 163090535,163094860,2018-03-07 13:59:55,">>163094367 For beginners I can recommend videos of Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell on Youtube (or some of their book. They aren't fully ancap or anything but from the economic point they are spot on. There are plenty of short simple videos that explain why regulations and welfare hurt the poor. This channel has a lot of their interviews: https://www.youtube.com/user/LibertyPen",,Anonymous,,,,,1520431195 163090535,163095666,2018-03-07 14:09:14,bump,,Anonymous,24eda9505473aac18f3d03c3ae56e58c8ebb1b9186cad64a1c99537d916ad89c.png,lIx6gxtELr4X7bzDTF8FIg==,,,1520431754 163090535,163095903,2018-03-07 14:11:56,,,Anonymous,title.png,AvujEJRG7Xi5JxbjgHHJYw==,,,1520431916 163090535,163096032,2018-03-07 14:13:27,am i too authoritarian for this general?,,Anonymous,asd.png,8BZBUlywg5PK6320xDjl3w==,,,1520432007 163090535,163096114,2018-03-07 14:14:29,">>163096032 That test is awful and scores inaccurately. Most ancaps would score something similar to you on that test.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520432069 163090535,163096216,2018-03-07 14:15:36,">>163096114 do you have a link for more accurate one?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520432136 163090535,163096351,2018-03-07 14:17:06,">>163096216 https://8values.github.io/ http://www.politiscales.net/ These are both better tests that give more accurate results",,Anonymous,,,,,1520432226 163090535,163096573,2018-03-07 14:19:48,Any other PA bros here getting cozy in this storm?,,Anonymous,5672893023.jpg,jS8maAJrZWjt4siasIjnyw==,,,1520432388 163090535,163097238,2018-03-07 14:26:46,">>163093738 Where does Venezuela land in this scale",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520432806 163090535,163097354,2018-03-07 14:28:16,">>163094762 >>163094860 >>163094751 Thanks a bunch. >>163096573 PA here, did you vote for Trump too? I went for Bernie in the primaries and Trump in the General.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520432896 163090535,163098106,2018-03-07 14:36:44,">>163097354 I vote Trump for the primary and for the general. I will never forget when PA turned red",,Anonymous,,,,,1520433404 163090535,163098265,2018-03-07 14:38:30,">>163098106 Yep, one of the greatest things I've ever seen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520433510 163090535,163098483,2018-03-07 14:40:48,">>163096573 PA here, this storm is the last straw. Moving back to AZ in 2 weeks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520433648 163090535,163098756,2018-03-07 14:43:45,,,Anonymous,MY POLITICAL COMPASS.png,iRuTKPG6utQKrXVigeVl/A==,,,1520433825 163090535,163098811,2018-03-07 14:44:17,>>163093060,,Anonymous,1492395665515.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,US,,1520433857 163090535,163099761,2018-03-07 14:54:19,>>163098756,,Anonymous,politiscalesme.png,vU6Qm6S8OKRDcYNuf1P5gw==,,,1520434459 163090535,163100779,2018-03-07 15:04:56,,,Anonymous,1519844433271.png,IyoGhpzOg0P5ON5ZNvMkOQ==,,,1520435096 163090535,163100833,2018-03-07 15:05:20,,,Anonymous,index2.png,t5zkAlOEKhqW9aF4obhNWw==,,,1520435120 163090535,163102486,2018-03-07 15:22:49,">>163090535 >nonwhite libertarians things that didn't happen SAGE",,SAGE,,,,,1520436169 163090535,163103037,2018-03-07 15:28:32,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,1495580131537.jpg,okgT4DJlfzbOu/5iu7bPSg==,NL,,1520436512 163090535,163104982,2018-03-07 15:49:17,I wonder why the Netherlands has such a hate-boner for freedom.,,Anonymous,shekelland.png,fmRTGmz04eA7u3kfJOAbdw==,US,,1520437757 163090535,163105461,2018-03-07 15:54:16,">>163104982 none of joys of life come as a result of freedom",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1520438056 163090535,163105704,2018-03-07 15:56:55,">>163105461 If you're a filthy üntermensch, sure.",,Anonymous,wp.jpg,hxiHzMQlZspxUZ8ID3tMGQ==,US,,1520438215 163090535,163106097,2018-03-07 16:00:41,,,Anonymous,5a964154e93a94b31f3dc3874fbf66c661f49cd597c0f4524105172ffbc55b12.png,7bquruTPrH1PEyBgLSiO0Q==,,,1520438441 163090535,163107056,2018-03-07 16:10:04,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_03-07-04.07.36.jpg,OOzrE8yx/9RsJ2rZNn2x4w==,US,,1520439004 163090535,163107948,2018-03-07 16:18:20,I assume most of /lrg/ is both familiar with and fond of Jared Taylor?,,Anonymous,glitch_art_20180113201011.jpg,4dppC5VKKYkbahVA0Ix96A==,US,,1520439500 163090535,163108027,2018-03-07 16:19:24,">>163107948 I actually don't know much about him. He's that white nationalist fellow right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520439564 163090535,163108223,2018-03-07 16:21:18,">>163108027 Yeah, he's also pretty libertarian from what I've heard of him, talking about freedom of association and dissassociation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520439678 163090535,163108278,2018-03-07 16:21:57,">>163096351 Politiscales results are interesting, but I didn't like how some of the questions were formatted (grammatically incorrect, ambiguous, etc.).",,Anonymous,liberty-work-family.png,pVkFtt2DdORniNYaJaGIEQ==,US,,1520439717 163090535,163108333,2018-03-07 16:22:29,">>163108223 So like a refined version of Cantwell?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520439749 163090535,163108589,2018-03-07 16:24:44,">>163108333 Jared Taylor doesn't mind Jews while Cantwell definitely does, but aside from that I suppose they have similarities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520439884 163090535,163108715,2018-03-07 16:25:41,">>163108333 Taylor isnt very political. He doesn't advocate for any certain system (like monarchism or libertarianism). He is simply pro white",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520439941 163090535,163110057,2018-03-07 16:38:49,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-07-12.46.23.png,VMPXSTzhnoXQWlxSIkgdlA==,US,,1520440729 163090535,163110357,2018-03-07 16:41:53,">>163090535 Why do you have Mises on that image? Mises was pro-open immigration. Rothbard was too before his cynical, insincere ""paleo-libertarian"" turnabout.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520440913 163090535,163110360,2018-03-07 16:41:55,,,Anonymous,file.png,rqKa3Ch7/VS1I9ggO3Z1sQ==,GB,,1520440915 163090535,163110528,2018-03-07 16:43:27,">>163096573 For a New Liberty is not Libertarian Right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520441007 163090535,163110675,2018-03-07 16:44:46,">>163110360 I posted this in the wrong thread, was meant for /g/ >>163110528 What are you talking about? For a New Liberty is a top-tier Rothbard book",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520441086 163090535,163110866,2018-03-07 16:46:42,">>163110675 >a top-tier Rothbard book In other words, it's not Libertarian Right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520441202 163090535,163110921,2018-03-07 16:47:11,">>163110528 Excuse me?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520441231 163090535,163111272,2018-03-07 16:50:25,">>163110866 If Rothbard is not libertarian right, who is?",,Anonymous,fhayek.png,2OT9tousUV809K3n9Y7+/w==,GB,,1520441425 163090535,163111507,2018-03-07 16:52:27,">>163111272 Define Libertarian Right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520441547 163090535,163112201,2018-03-07 16:59:11,">>163092718 >t. keynesian shill Keep sucking that faggot cock, government shill.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520441951 163090535,163112222,2018-03-07 16:59:24,">>163092216 He's probably generalizing Hans Herman Hoppe's acceptance of ""physical removal"" of corrupting individuals in a society, Hayek's thoughts that a period of authoritarian by a benevolent dictator might be necessary, and von Mises's congratulatory statements about the preservation of Western Civilization.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520441964 163090535,163112486,2018-03-07 17:01:59,">>163111507 You seem to have a pretty strong idea of what it means already, why don't you share what it means to you, considering you're the one who's been insisting on what is and isn't Libertarian Right?",,Anonymous,billclint.png,sZ4P13jOpU5JMjkzJvcT3w==,GB,,1520442119 163090535,163112747,2018-03-07 17:04:13,">>163093256 Block is the type of Jew to own a private gas chamber. https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/permissible-criticize-jews/",,Anonymous,lrgwave liberty or death.png,fVAd+B6MJd4SQ6qiOSUtjQ==,,,1520442253 163090535,163112973,2018-03-07 17:06:25,">>163093912 High-density urban areas will greatly reduce in both size and number, and over a long-enough period of time will be dismantled and reclaimed by more natural forms of human accomodation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520442385 163090535,163113115,2018-03-07 17:07:31,">>163094380 You've come to the right place. Join our (((Discord))) at fnmp99D.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520442451 163090535,163113372,2018-03-07 17:09:44,">>163092749 You are a fucking clown.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520442584 163090535,163113443,2018-03-07 17:10:20,">>163107948 He's a good man with good opinions on things, and he presents himself well. He's a bit too soft on the Jews, though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520442620 163090535,163113667,2018-03-07 17:12:33,">>163112222 Admitting the truth is not the same thing as being some kind of a statist. Hoppe laid his arguments out perfectly, any misinterpretation of his position on monarchy is the fault of the reader (or non-reader, as is the case most of the time).",,Anonymous,,,,,1520442753 163090535,163114379,2018-03-07 17:19:34,">>163113667 Not disagreeing, he just may have meant an autocrat instead of king, or he's just gotten around to reading Moldbug and thinking people are still NRx. >when you literally score ""ein reich, ein volk, ein führer"" on your political analysis",,Anonymous,Politiscales.jpg,RjhBDMDIMUw8d+riUFtqKA==,,,1520443174 163090535,163114668,2018-03-07 17:22:28,">>163099761 almost same results, the 7% too",,Anonymous,,,,,1520443348 163090535,163115113,2018-03-07 17:26:33,RATE ME AND READ SIEGE FAGGOTS,,Anonymous,politiscales.png,/pzwQ5mzt42F7p38JOFE9g==,US,,1520443593 163090535,163115189,2018-03-07 17:27:17,ancap girls are the best,,Anonymous,Rothgirl.jpg,zc3ykIbSHDiblw/VmhlscA==,PT,,1520443637 163090535,163115550,2018-03-07 17:30:26,">>163112486 No, Muhammad, you share what it means first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520443826 163090535,163115634,2018-03-07 17:31:13,"Thread theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAuz3sxCbp4",,Anonymous,,,,,1520443873 163090535,163115684,2018-03-07 17:31:44,">>163105461 They all come as a result of freedom ya dick.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520443904 163090535,163115787,2018-03-07 17:32:37,">>163114379 Those results aren't half bad, I've literally seen NatSocs score over 50% gobbudism though.",,Anonymous,politiscales.png,BUf9XHbPZKlz5OKTibnK+g==,,,1520443957 163090535,163115958,2018-03-07 17:34:14,Is anarcho-fascism real anarchism or is it just a meme?,,Anonymous,anarcho fascism.png,iOKxQwFc8ilnMdqedkYkxw==,,,1520444054 163090535,163116101,2018-03-07 17:35:36,">>163115550 Political philosophy based on private property and individualism",,Anonymous,image (1).jpg,GPolY6bfEISgz14m/IEqZg==,GB,,1520444136 163090535,163116522,2018-03-07 17:39:29,">>163115958 I thought gray and black was agorism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520444369 163090535,163116663,2018-03-07 17:41:00,"https://dstormer6em3i4km.onion.link/cantwell-live-from-seg-ep-019-blue-pill-merchant/ I came across this oldie while listening to some music on shuffle mode, enjoy. If Cantwell gets kiked for good we'll have 40 years of LIVE! from Seg. That's a win-win situation if you ask me.",,Anonymous,hong kong aesthetic.png,kgWE86KOaJvcKo+JZ0F9bg==,,,1520444460 163090535,163118010,2018-03-07 17:54:25,">>163115787 I'm only really concerned about comically-evil tier exploitation of citizens, enterprises that are anathema to the well-being of the country (pornography or drug-dealing), and protection of strategic resources (i.e no selling uranium to possible enemies.) Only larger corporations, especially those involved in foreign markets, should have some degree of obligation to benefit the country as a whole, but examples of men like Ford and modern corporate virtue-signalling makes believe that it should be pursued through cultural, rather than bureaucratic, means. By and large, my libertarian days left me with the belief that the free market should mostly be left to its own devices. I've toyed with the idea of ensuring a minimum capability of autarchy in-case of embargo, but I think that can be more effectively solved through foreign alliances.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520445265 163090535,163118135,2018-03-07 17:55:51,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1502913433000.jpg,DSfJH53s5t/jDIQUDW2nSw==,US,,1520445351 163090535,163118456,2018-03-07 17:59:05,">>163112201 I'm sure it's pure coincidence how the west boomed under Keynsian economics from the 1940s-70s, then it all went to shit after the (((Friedman))) shills Thatcher and Reagan",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520445545 163090535,163118509,2018-03-07 17:59:34,">>163118010 Yeah, those are reasonable concerns to have. After all, nobody can FORCE you to execute some guy who murders a smut-peddling kike.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520445574 163090535,163118613,2018-03-07 18:00:44,">>163118456 I'm sure it had nothing to do with the rise of colour-blind politics, neo-conservatism and liberalism, de-colonisation of Africa and civil rights movements around the world, you dumb fucking faggot. Read Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520445644 163090535,163119235,2018-03-07 18:06:56,"The thing with these internet political tests is that the questions are so vague or worded a certain way that you have to act like the questions are the strawmans taken to the extremes of what you stand for. Even if you don't necessarily agree with the extreme view, if it has the desired effect of what you want, then you should agree or disagree with that question.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520446016 163090535,163119263,2018-03-07 18:07:14,">>163118613 >Read Hoppe Can't make this shit up, almost like a programmed response at this point. Even commies don't respond with ""Just read Marx!"" when you attack them. I already had my Ancringe phase, aged 17. I remember reading Atlas Shrugged, Road to Serfdom etc and almost cried on some pages because it all seemed to make so much sense. Then I broadened my horizons reading wise and realised how utterly unfeasable and almost certainly dystopian an objectivist world would be.",,Anonymous,Alain de Benoist.jpg,XTYoKYLbgPU+ubbnF+CGgw==,GB,,1520446034 163090535,163119494,2018-03-07 18:09:28,Wassup my dudes. Long time no see heh,,Anonymous,1510357986462.png,gmmaLMQcpJvJiusxZNqMuQ==,PT,,1520446168 163090535,163119779,2018-03-07 18:12:03,">>163119494 you really gotta get online more often, senpai",,Anonymous,,,,,1520446323 163090535,163119820,2018-03-07 18:12:35,"Hello my comrades How many statist cucks have you bashed today?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520446355 163090535,163119851,2018-03-07 18:12:57,">>163119263 >former Randroid thinks he was ancap heh, imajun moy shawk Read Hoppe and stop being a white nigger.",,Anonymous,american's creed.png,ttGkVtZVeKTDqPQGWDw0zw==,,,1520446377 163090535,163119920,2018-03-07 18:13:31,>>163119820,,Anonymous,bait legend of link.jpg,D5/165cuJLuLKJ0VEgdGWQ==,,,1520446411 163090535,163119969,2018-03-07 18:14:01,">>163111507 Private property and contracts, with a general understanding that this leads to restricted immigration and voluntary segregation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520446441 163090535,163120044,2018-03-07 18:14:45,,,Anonymous,download (1).png,cfY/sGo4UcEXv9Y11u999A==,EE,,1520446485 163090535,163120078,2018-03-07 18:15:05,">>163119779 I've moved on to other pastures, friend. And by other pastures I mean I've been up to my neck with work and other life-related shit. Trying to sort myself out, I hardly browse /pol/ anymore, but am always proud to stop by and see /lrg/ is still booming. I'll always love what we did to bring all these Hoppe memes to the mainstream.",,Anonymous,1510418194509.png,s6/Ay5AhdpyIRVNmnyn0fQ==,PT,,1520446505 163090535,163120182,2018-03-07 18:15:58,">>163090535 Lolbertarians and Moneyjew Fans lack the predatory mindset that is necessary to maintain a society. The best use you can make of them is as suicide bombers against the left and whatever enemy comes along that wants to take our shit. But by themselfs they just cause autistic infighting because they nag people with principles they will never even meet.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520446558 163090535,163120237,2018-03-07 18:16:35,">>163120078 Regardless, it's good to see an oldfag posting again. Godspeed, and if you want anything, we're here for you. Consider it a free good, so to speak.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520446595 163090535,163120295,2018-03-07 18:17:12,">>163118509 Although I have to admit that I do find the concept of a labor-backed currency intriguing. If only because the ingenious method of increasing the money supply without inflation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520446632 163090535,163120329,2018-03-07 18:17:30,">>163119969 >with a general understanding that this leads to restricted immigration America had unrestricted immigration until 1882 when the state introduced laws to restrict it. In reality Ancap means reptiles like Bezos and Zuck have free reign to effectively do whatever the fuck they want",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520446650 163090535,163120378,2018-03-07 18:17:57,"Redpill me lads, how bad is it?",,Anonymous,ss+(2018-03-07+at+05.16.55).jpg,if5M+DxAJw8/EWHm/pytQA==,US,,1520446677 163090535,163120464,2018-03-07 18:18:42,">>163120237 Thanks my dude. Best wishes to all the AnCaps ITT, and especially to Founding Father, Britbro and Slovakbro.",,Anonymous,anarcho-harrisonism.png,B0YDJj4a2aCCh2HNX3Cchg==,PT,,1520446722 163090535,163120486,2018-03-07 18:18:56,">>163120182 They're as autistic as commies. So many parallels between them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520446736 163090535,163120537,2018-03-07 18:19:30,">>163120182 I refuse to be a predator against my own family, community, region, nation, and race, in this order. However, as Koresh had said - you come to me threatening me and my family - I'll meet you at the door, anytime.",,Anonymous,make them pay waco.png,YZzDb4fUdTDObfVAEbS2Ug==,,,1520446770 163090535,163120740,2018-03-07 18:21:32,"Did you just touch my private property??? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",,Anonymous,,,,,1520446892 163090535,163120785,2018-03-07 18:21:55,">>163120378 Not bad at all, friend",,Anonymous,politiscales.png,yVWl4sUmZhmU/Wuzz+KQaw==,US,,1520446915 163090535,163120788,2018-03-07 18:21:57,">>163120295 I don't trust a central bank (however much you clothe the concept in national colours, it's still the same thing at its core) or ""money magic"" for a second. Value is subjective, that much is true, but depending on the good will of an institution that has shown none (despite having many opportunities to do so) throughout its entire existence is naive, to say the least.",,Anonymous,ancapball hoppe siege waco gif.gif,yp/eYgVZHdUhRie38pxFww==,,,1520446917 163090535,163120898,2018-03-07 18:23:18,">>163120464 Oldfag squad representing. This pic predates the Heebcord server, I still remember autistically describing it to FF, kek.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1520446998 163090535,163120947,2018-03-07 18:23:49,I'm a communist sympathizer and even I unironically think an-captialism is a joke,,Anonymous,,,,,1520447029 163090535,163120961,2018-03-07 18:23:58,">>163120537 Your whole refuse to fight stick is reduced to a coexist bumper sticker. How did this work out for Koresh when the enemy was already at his door? How did that work out? You look for the role of the moral defendant but thats absurd. Thats why your mindset is flawed and your idea of society never survives reality contact.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520447038 163090535,163120967,2018-03-07 18:24:04,">>163120329 America situation is a bad example cause most land was still up for grabs. It was a vast continent with barely any people living in it. If the state didn't restrict immigration in 1882 we would have seen way more private solutions to the immigration problem, in fact many communities were gated already and only allowing specific people in them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520447044 163090535,163120990,2018-03-07 18:24:23,">>163120947 average trolljob back to trollschool with you",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520447063 163090535,163121063,2018-03-07 18:25:04,">>163120947 Good, the opinions of mental patients are worth less than a Deutche mark in 1923.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520447104 163090535,163121315,2018-03-07 18:27:42,">>163120947 Nice false-flagging",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520447262 163090535,163121325,2018-03-07 18:27:49,">>163120961 His guys shot 4 pigs and the rest got away at their mercy. If he was as deranged and bloodthirsty as the media made him out to be, none of those 75 thugs would have made it back alive, and the world would have been a better place.",,Anonymous,koresh.jpg,u+D7n7DEZn6sJdeDHtNe8w==,,,1520447269 163090535,163121327,2018-03-07 18:27:49,">>163121063 >""Ur dumb"" >Subscribes to an ideology that's an oxymoron",,Anonymous,,,,,1520447269 163090535,163121481,2018-03-07 18:29:29,">>163120898 A true classic.",,Anonymous,borders closed.png,y8xNTO4g/bMS0bY0vvleGA==,PT,,1520447369 163090535,163121498,2018-03-07 18:29:40,">>163121325 as i said you look for the role of the moral defendant. And then youre maggot food. Kokesh and his BBQ Party all went to the maggots. Congrats to that moral victory.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520447380 163090535,163121544,2018-03-07 18:30:06,">>163121327 Speak up, can't hear you over your gurgling stomach. Too bad killing kulaks didn't work out well for you, but it never really does pay off to kill experienced people because... muh class war, or something.",,Anonymous,autistic screeching marx.jpg,r+R1HDIdRAW8ZuoTy8O4sw==,,,1520447406 163090535,163121565,2018-03-07 18:30:24,">>163121498 lol i ment Koresh.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520447424 163090535,163121648,2018-03-07 18:31:09,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,XJWRVQc7xsgwaMOTNGRPiw==,GB,,1520447469 163090535,163121659,2018-03-07 18:31:13,">>163107948 His only flaw is his refusal to acknowledge the JQ",,chop,,,DK,,1520447473 163090535,163121736,2018-03-07 18:31:57,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,iz/9rEZE5fkcgtB7kcXr0Q==,GB,,1520447517 163090535,163121755,2018-03-07 18:32:06,">>163121498 Moral victory? You mean when Timmy avenged the Weavers and the Branch Davidians twice over? Oh, and before you start screeching about the kids, fuck that. He should have killed more of them.",,Anonymous,timmy american.png,X4Zxgznyf5+Wl9hFZTqsEg==,,,1520447526 163090535,163121814,2018-03-07 18:32:40,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,fEX2Qkuwsde8+0bOgguy9A==,GB,,1520447560 163090535,163121828,2018-03-07 18:32:46,">>163121648 small businesses gave way more money to the AUC then Coca Cola. But that would paint an even nastier picture. Meaning that not only big corp want commies to die, but mom and pop stores too.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520447566 163090535,163121985,2018-03-07 18:34:31,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,AgDy8cz/P4YuQLJRhCrjQA==,,,1520447671 163090535,163122000,2018-03-07 18:34:39,">>163121755 >Oh, and before you start screeching about the kids, fuck that. He should have killed more of them. If any i would complain about that he didn't kill enough you faggot. Yet he wasn't a libertardian moneyjew listener, he was a neo nazi war veteran.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520447679 163090535,163122110,2018-03-07 18:35:58,">>163120967 Why not campaign for open borders then? If state restrictions on immigration are so bad, and ""private solutions to immigration"" are so effective then do it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520447758 163090535,163122218,2018-03-07 18:37:13,">>163122000 AHAHAAHA You wish. If reading the Turner Diaries makes you a NutSack, then maybe I should order a swastika flag to wipe my ass with. Every single piece of information he put out indicated that he was a libertaryan goy, from his reasoning and mindset to the nature of his ""crime"" a.k.a. service to humanity, and especially to the great American people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520447833 163090535,163122363,2018-03-07 18:38:49,">>163120788 >88 Fair enough Hitler, I just like the idea of offering small business/home loans to newlyweds that can be repaid through having children. It made me laugh when I realized someone could literally say they're, ""investing in our community.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1520447929 163090535,163122474,2018-03-07 18:39:54,">>163122218 >service to humanity Individualism is about serving yourself. You're absolutely retarded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520447994 163090535,163122533,2018-03-07 18:40:42,">>163122363 Well, as long as there's going to be public policy, lowering taxes with each next child a couple has, as well as slashing welfare that gets abused by non-whites would do wonders for both the economy and the nation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520448042 163090535,163122615,2018-03-07 18:41:39,">>163122474 Good thing I'm not an individualist then, you utterly dentally challenged faggot. Why haven't you read Hoppe yet? You think he's anything like Ayn Rand? You're delusional.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520448099 163090535,163122639,2018-03-07 18:41:57,">>163093948 >I support ending the Fed bad economics, shame on you, read a book",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1520448117 163090535,163122739,2018-03-07 18:43:00,">>163104982 >hurr durr what is positive freedom read a book you mouthbreathing knuckledragging christian",,Anonymous,jonraals.jpg,mzid/NX9T4kA0QCLlChEVw==,NL,,1520448180 163090535,163122807,2018-03-07 18:43:38,">>163111507 Bad economics, bad philosophy, impossible to create in real life.",,Anonymous,sdfsdfds.png,LMxl8aa4ljEhThCITIevzA==,NL,,1520448218 163090535,163122936,2018-03-07 18:45:02,">>163118456 do you have any evidence friedman personally caused any economic inefficiency? oh wait you dont",,Anonymous,cowen.jpg,DxCPH9YDPlvUF7Dg/ON0Fw==,NL,,1520448302 163090535,163122959,2018-03-07 18:45:18,">>163122639 >n-no, goy! Keep allowing Jews and their pet goyim full control over your economy! Don't save money, spend it as quickly as possible! Why don't you read a nice book by (((Krugman)))? I bet you'd love to hear Rawls tell you that you're evil for not wanting to share your completely random, unearned White privilege with non-white savages! I see through your dirty tricks, Schlomo.",,Anonymous,(((anonymous))).jpg,dyQSfkVKqDryES1x67oqKw==,,,1520448318 163090535,163123034,2018-03-07 18:46:09,">>163119263 >Atlas Shrugged, Road to Serfdom etc two entirely different books, minarchism vs ordoliberalism/anti-authoritarianism you retarded nigger brainlet",,Anonymous,saddasasddsa.jpg,8978dW/3l6llc88UoQnSnA==,NL,,1520448369 163090535,163123116,2018-03-07 18:47:11,">>163122739 Positive rights, also known as entitlements, were a mistake. The only positive right you have is the right to life with the obligation to keep you alive being put upon your parents, but even that's still being hashed out. Read Isaiah Berlin, I think he's the one who discovered the distinction between positive and negative liberty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520448431 163090535,163123133,2018-03-07 18:47:25,">>163122936 >i..it wasn't real libertarianism!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520448445 163090535,163123212,2018-03-07 18:48:20,">>163123133 That (((poster))) is some neoliberal kike shill, disregard anything he says.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520448500 163090535,163123335,2018-03-07 18:49:40,">>163123034 No two authors are the same, people draw influence from a range of sources. Since you clearly haven't read a thing and just want to baitpost, I'm going to ignore you from here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520448580 163090535,163123336,2018-03-07 18:49:40,">>163091382 >>163093163 >>163093343 Personally, I'm happy that fascist entryists are hijacking the so called ""libertarian"" movement and radicalizing your fringe elements. It means that your average man can more readily recognize your strong inclination towards authoritarianism and violence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520448580 163090535,163123379,2018-03-07 18:50:12,,,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,US,,1520448612 163090535,163123492,2018-03-07 18:51:29,">>163123336 Good, we don't want cucks who don't want results. Get in the motherfucking Ryder truck.",,Anonymous,timmy hate.png,a66PSsNV6lMTes72odnuyg==,,,1520448689 163090535,163123572,2018-03-07 18:52:22,">>163123379 This reads like one of the faggot-ass ""life after hate"" confessions. Surrender is unacceptable and does not make you an authority on anything, quite the opposite.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520448742 163090535,163123817,2018-03-07 18:54:46,">>163123336 >It means that your average man can more readily recognize your strong inclination towards authoritarianism and violence. Yes, the average man would absolutely hate the idea of low taxes, freedom, and not letting trannies piss on their children in the little girls' room.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520448886 163090535,163124022,2018-03-07 18:56:56,">>163123572 He's right you know",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1520449016 163090535,163124066,2018-03-07 18:57:23,">>163123335 I have read the latter and its economic-historical context, you are just butthurt you can't even distinguish two authors from eachother you illiterate brainlet",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1520449043 163090535,163124190,2018-03-07 18:58:48,">>163123133 Lets look at spending charts... Oops looks like it was small in 1900 and is currently all time high!! Such a shame that your ideology fucks everything up :( https://ourworldindata.org/public-spending https://data.oecd.org/gga/general-government-spending.htm",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1520449128 163090535,163124195,2018-03-07 18:58:49,">>163122218 so your whole lolbertarian stick is build on cornerstones like the government trained and paid war veteran Timmy and his pro bono service to humanity because some weirdo cult took the role of the moral loser by getting BBQed. fuck, youre realy retarded. >libertaryan goy https://www.amazon.com/Oklahoma-City-Investigation-Missed-Matters/dp/0061986453",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520449129 163090535,163124228,2018-03-07 18:59:11,">>163124195 but hey in the end it makes the point for me to use lolbertarians as Suicide Bombers.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520449151 163090535,163124277,2018-03-07 18:59:48,">>163123116 So basically we should go back to the stone age because cooperation is ebil statism? Great argument",,Anonymous,argument.jpg,NdUvPd0OG05vjMTh6hqoJw==,NL,,1520449188 163090535,163124599,2018-03-07 19:03:13,">>163124022 No, he's really not. Weak-willed individuals are not welcome in our strictly discriminatory movement, anyway.",,Anonymous,lrg vs that one shitposter.png,13GT4DAU1XZfCZSfywoeSg==,,,1520449393 163090535,163124690,2018-03-07 19:04:11,">>163121648 commies BTFO",,Anonymous,Narcos autodefensas.png,mUHr6QQTXvjHrkOn/4pEHw==,PT,,1520449451 163090535,163124693,2018-03-07 19:04:15,">>163124195 As long as something results in dead feds, it's a desirable endeavour.",,Anonymous,timmy captain of my soul.png,tkdppsmpGNnY5zNE1Z6zzw==,,,1520449455 163090535,163124758,2018-03-07 19:05:01,">>163124277 >cooperation >state (reliance on coercion) We're reaching levels of not-an-argument that should not be possible.",,Anonymous,hoppe physically removedwave.png,/jtbl7UQsoomIFq0fpZbKQ==,,,1520449501 163090535,163124838,2018-03-07 19:05:55,">>163123817 Your average man probably doesn't want a bunch of pearl-clutching authoritarian collectivists unduly interfering with their lives using the threat of violence through a one-party state. Try again bootlicker.",,Anonymous,gayNazis__.jpg,NWiiB97b2WrSbmF00JxOMQ==,,,1520449555 163090535,163124965,2018-03-07 19:07:12,">>163124838 Franco didn't punish your pathetic little communist rebellion hard enough. CNT flags make for great fire starters for burning ancom corpses.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520449632 163090535,163125191,2018-03-07 19:09:37,">>163124838 I was describing a right libertarian society you net-loss for humanity.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520449777 163090535,163125219,2018-03-07 19:09:53,">>163124965 Bootlickers don't get to wear anarchist colors.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520449793 163090535,163125304,2018-03-07 19:11:04,">>163125191 I'm referring to your flag and the entryism you people foist upon empty-headed idiots like this schmuck. >>163124965",,Anonymous,,,,,1520449864 163090535,163125373,2018-03-07 19:11:51,">>163125219 Well, by your own doctrine ancap isn't anarchism, so I guess you won't mind a gold-and-black-clad death squad ramming your shitty dollar stole flagpole up your ass.",,Anonymous,huntington beach.png,MmHZ0T9+HU7AI5YzHdYJJA==,,,1520449911 163090535,163125501,2018-03-07 19:13:19,">>163122739 Share the knowledge you've gathered you colossal faggot.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1520449999 163090535,163125566,2018-03-07 19:14:01,">>163125304 >waaaah, willingness to fight alongside fashies against a common (((enemy))) means you're a fashest! Whatever you say, faggot. Do you have anything of substance to tell us before you crush your skull at terminal velocity against the waves of the Pacific?",,Anonymous,pinochet cold one.png,y/URXgHFpq0RzXLGRQ1x2Q==,,,1520450041 163090535,163125571,2018-03-07 19:14:02,">>163090535 (((free markets)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450042 163090535,163125645,2018-03-07 19:14:49,">>163125571 (((socialism)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450089 163090535,163125681,2018-03-07 19:15:15,">>163125645 Fascism",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450115 163090535,163125688,2018-03-07 19:15:22,">>163125373 https://youtu.be/QMfyFkic7hE",,Anonymous,kek.jpg,J2/QKPCFzyTxxIC59itVgQ==,,,1520450122 163090535,163125705,2018-03-07 19:15:39,,,Anonymous,,,,,1520450139 163090535,163125760,2018-03-07 19:16:20,This is the only person the free market benefits.,,Anonymous,3218519049.png,NLdu1P8bdt804yx5QSPNtw==,,,1520450180 163090535,163125899,2018-03-07 19:17:41,">>163090535 >No links >tfw no state to enforce your roolz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6PrCE-uy54",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520450261 163090535,163125959,2018-03-07 19:18:20,">>163125681 That's like testing the kneejerk reflex with a sledgehammer. You'll do more damage trying to fix a problem with force without putting in enough effort to understand it in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450300 163090535,163125984,2018-03-07 19:18:47,">>163091971 >When did libertarianism become so keked by statism? No, just people grew out of basic bitch libertarianism into post-libertarian thought.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520450327 163090535,163126015,2018-03-07 19:19:07,">>163125571 >>163125645 ((holding an opinion)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450347 163090535,163126033,2018-03-07 19:19:17,">>163125566 >Literally letting yourselves be an exploited fifth-column for people who want an ethno-state that uses threats of violence against people to keep them in line >calling yourself a libertarian or having the complete lack of wherewithal to understand that this is inconsistent of any concept of liberty whether positive or negative.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450357 163090535,163126183,2018-03-07 19:21:02,">>163125959 I feel accusation the same could be levied against anarcho-capitalists. If there's a problem with the state, why not try to fix it rather than up and destroying it entirely?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450462 163090535,163126327,2018-03-07 19:22:34,">>163125959 lmao, do you even know what a free market does? It lets retards put their own capital above the state usually buying shit out by FORCE, (which should never happen) the free market is the sledgehammer goyim, it's a stupid system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450554 163090535,163126378,2018-03-07 19:23:08,How are ancaps going to make roads.,,Anonymous,,,,,1520450588 163090535,163126445,2018-03-07 19:23:56,,,Anonymous,1492394583.png,HiU6i0R68odXPGWOlYBhwg==,,,1520450636 163090535,163126538,2018-03-07 19:24:50,">>163125705 >>163125760 Wait, is this the faggot who thinks that the kikes are capitalist? Good meme, post somebody who doesn't eat crayons for breakfast.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450690 163090535,163126588,2018-03-07 19:25:25,">>163126015 so this is the third position I've been hearing about the whole time intredasting",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450725 163090535,163126660,2018-03-07 19:26:08,">>163126538 >Wait, is this the faggot who thinks that the kikes are capitalist? no but this guy sounds like a cool dude.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450768 163090535,163126747,2018-03-07 19:27:08,You guys are a joke. Sort yourself out.,,Anonymous,rs-libertarians[1].png,TpChiJQ+nLrQRIrApPq/KQ==,,,1520450828 163090535,163126752,2018-03-07 19:27:12,">>163126183 There's a problem with the state in its abstract, non-specific form. It should be taken over and first used to correct any of its mistakes that can be corrected, and then dismantled into natural hierarchy. That's the ideal way to do it, but if dead communists are a by-product of that system, I don't see that as a problem, honestly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450832 163090535,163126829,2018-03-07 19:27:53,">>163126747 Fuck off, that guy was great.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450873 163090535,163126840,2018-03-07 19:28:01,">>163126033 Nice try, kike.",,Anonymous,da juice.png,FZHrZhij4QKl3AayNDdvtg==,,,1520450881 163090535,163126920,2018-03-07 19:28:50,">>163126327 Retards wouldn't have capital if it weren't for welfare of either the popular or the corporate kind, but nice try nonetheless.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450930 163090535,163127007,2018-03-07 19:29:39,">>163126747 >>163126829 That guy is literally a socialist, lmao. (((Matt Kuehnel))) can have whatever is left of the Libertarian Party at this point, it's degenerate as hell.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520450979 163090535,163127101,2018-03-07 19:30:45,">>163126660 He sounds like he's got crayon wax stuck in his teeth most importantly, that alone makes it hard to focus on anything of value he might be saying (which is probably nothing at all).",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451045 163090535,163127176,2018-03-07 19:31:34,">>163126538 Didn't you know, anon? ""Laissez-faire"" is French for ""illegal, unethical, ultra-nepotistic, ethncocentric-mercantilism is the definition of capitalism.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451094 163090535,163127232,2018-03-07 19:32:13,">>163124690 Are trade unions commie in principle? Imo unions are an important tool for workers to get fairly compensated.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1520451133 163090535,163127305,2018-03-07 19:33:05,">>163126920 >welfare do you mean paycheck? I mean you know that under a third position state people would make money right? You don't have to be tied to a kike global economy to have cash.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451185 163090535,163127346,2018-03-07 19:33:32,">>163127176 Oh yes, that must be it. Give me a second, I have to duct-tape my state-issued Stahlhelm to my scrotal region as to prevent feelings of arousal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451212 163090535,163127429,2018-03-07 19:34:31,">>163127305 I'm not interested in making money, I'm interested in ending the injustice that has been imposed on our people by those who found comfort preferable to freedom, sort of like boomers, but prehistorical.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451271 163090535,163127597,2018-03-07 19:36:30,">>163127232 Picket strikes are a no-no, as that's a violation of the property rights of both the business owner and the workers who ain't with the lefty bullshit. Otherwise, yeah, unions might greatly help workers in a loosely-knit society, of which there likely won't be many in the long-run ancapistan system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451390 163090535,163127694,2018-03-07 19:37:33,"Cooked up a little thing for any lazy-ass faggots that still haven't read Anatomy of the State. Ditch Ayn Rand and the Friedmans, this is where real libertarianism starts.",,Anonymous,ancap reading list short.png,6LEor8KJYYZXOiK9DknvLQ==,,,1520451453 163090535,163127696,2018-03-07 19:37:32,">>163127101 >doesn't listen to what he says in the video because muh audio quality The eternal willpower of the anarcho crapitalist on display.",,Anonymous,ancap.png,bKAOvHHFpy4H2UrmLJDErA==,,,1520451452 163090535,163127791,2018-03-07 19:38:40,>>163127694,,Anonymous,32489395829.png,WXrkvEZHKe60yXxM7f2s+g==,,,1520451520 163090535,163127927,2018-03-07 19:39:57,">>163127429 Define ""freedom"". All americans have a retarded concept of this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451597 163090535,163128071,2018-03-07 19:41:35,">>163126752 >There's a problem with the state in its abstract, non-specific form. I'm not entirely sold on that, but I think our disagreement is essentially in our moral values so debating it would change neither of our minds. >It should be taken over and first used to correct any of its mistakes that can be corrected, and then dismantled into natural hierarchy. I can to agree with that, though. The reason I became NatSoc is that I believe a period of authoritarianism and palingenesis is necessary. A time to sort ourselves out, free ourselves from foreign influences, and rebuild our societies. Past that, I've grown to think simply letting white peoples' nature take the reigns would work out fine, with the caveat of ensuring that what we do from there-on is by us, exclusively for us, and only works because of us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451695 163090535,163128174,2018-03-07 19:42:47,">>163127696 I've had the misfortune of having decided to suffer through that faggot's drunken rambling once, a mistake that I won't repeat anywhere in the near future. If he wants to spew his horseshit anywhere he wants, he's welcome to do it, but he shouldn't expect to be taken seriously by everyone just because edgy 15-year-old Atomwaffenjugend fangoys tell him he's the next incarnation of Vishnu.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451767 163090535,163128265,2018-03-07 19:43:56,">>163127927 Negative rights, meaning certain things that can't be taken away from you, but are not required to be actively sustained by other people. That's property rights - thou shalt not kill, steal, rape, that sort of thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451836 163090535,163128296,2018-03-07 19:44:13,">>163128174 That video actually explains fascist economics, i'm fairly certain he's sober in it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451853 163090535,163128407,2018-03-07 19:45:25,">>163128265 All of those are present in the third position.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451925 163090535,163128414,2018-03-07 19:45:28,">>163128071 Oh, absolutely. Authoritarian-libertarian is really a false dichotomy, as we recognise and cherish private authority (sovereignity is a better term) over one's property. Of course, there are also moral values that come into play, for example I'd prefer to not do business with a zoophile or a sodomite.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451928 163090535,163128441,2018-03-07 19:45:45,">>163128174 >edgy 15-year-old Atomwaffenjugend fangoys tell him he's the next incarnation of Vishnu Atomwaffen would behead you for that. They recognize the truth that is Islam, infidel.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451945 163090535,163128454,2018-03-07 19:45:51,">>163090535 The fusion of libertarianism and fascism is the ultimate red-pill.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520451951 163090535,163128584,2018-03-07 19:47:33,">>163128296 I'll bite. Does he mention that the Federal Reserve is a socialist organisation run by Jews with a goal of controlling the goyim's finance system, and that this is the overarching theme with all central banks of the world? If he doesn't, he's a bluepilled faggot and not worth my precious, sleep-deprived time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520452053 163090535,163128669,2018-03-07 19:48:31,">>163128407 The only third position I'm concerned about is letting the toilet paper roll rest on the door handle because your broke ass can't afford a proper holder for it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520452111 163090535,163128689,2018-03-07 19:48:43,">>163128584 The video is called ""fascist economics"" not the federal reserve. So probably not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520452123 163090535,163128757,2018-03-07 19:49:28,">>163128441 I repent for my sins. There is no god but Allah and James Mason is his messenger.",,Anonymous,read siege nigger.png,sGr9wfE87fxKw8CcQYi6pA==,,,1520452168 163090535,163128851,2018-03-07 19:50:18,">>163128689 Well, if you're not willing to go to a few abstractions while making a video on economics, chances are it's not of much value.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520452218 163090535,163128939,2018-03-07 19:51:17,">>163128851 I thought you weren't into drunken ramblings. How would he even get into that while talking about fascist economics? It's completely off topic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520452277 163090535,163129011,2018-03-07 19:52:06,"Anyway, y'all have a good one. I just caught wind of David Hogg actually being a disguised Sam Hyde and some poster told me to go to sleep, so that's what I'm going to do. Sieg Heil, Cantwell did nothing wrong except not mace that tranny lunatic that got him locked up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520452326 163090535,163129226,2018-03-07 19:54:41,">>163129011 Good night anon",,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1520452481 163090535,163129255,2018-03-07 19:54:57,">>163099761 >>163108278 >>163115787 i dont understand ancap with nationalism and/or conservatism. can someone explain? is it because of non ideological answers on the quizzie?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1520452497 163090535,163129289,2018-03-07 19:55:15,>>163129255,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2018-03-08 at 01.50.14.png,aa0BtoWNUZ+j7wbr9PK0cQ==,SE,,1520452515 163090535,163129486,2018-03-07 19:57:19,">>163122110 Because a welfare state effectively destroys all counterbalances to that end. At that point you're subsidizing immigration.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520452639 163090535,163129699,2018-03-07 19:59:41,">>163129289 >>163120378 >>163120044 >>163115787 >>163114379 >>163108278 >>163099761 I'm curious what the criteria are to make the flag look a certain way and have a certain color and symbol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520452781 163090535,163129799,2018-03-07 20:00:44,I hate niggers,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1520452844 163090535,163129892,2018-03-07 20:01:47,">>163128414 >Of course, there are also moral values that come into play, for example I'd prefer to not do business with a zoophile or a sodomite. Disagreement on moral values as in their hierarchical positions in our beliefs. I respect and believe in freedom and self-determination, but I hold the greatest concern is the well-being of the volk as a whole. That goodness derives from the question, ""what most benefits the nation."" Post-apocalyptic Australia is as incorrect an answer to that as Hellstrom's Hive is, rather I believe it to be treating every citizen in your (ethnically homogeneous) country as you would a cousin.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520452907 163090535,163130047,2018-03-07 20:03:34,">>163128441 >>163128757 I thought Atomwaffen was Satanist in order to bring more fear into the hearts of soccer moms everywhere",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520453014 163090535,163130097,2018-03-07 20:04:00,>>163129799,,Anonymous,PUbzxPF.png,9wU2UdWtS88i9ovH/sJN5Q==,,,1520453040 163090535,163130132,2018-03-07 20:04:18,">>163130047 READ SIEGE FAGGOT",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1520453058 163090535,163130263,2018-03-07 20:05:36,,,Anonymous,1499491059587.png,At7SSdZAKDiAo24T7eKiRg==,US,,1520453136 163090535,163130306,2018-03-07 20:06:13,">>163090691 >NEETsoc >right wing Those commies in denial deserve nothing but a bullet",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1520453173 163090535,163130551,2018-03-07 20:08:47,">>163130306 But it's not Jewish communism, anon, it's Aryan socialism.",,Anonymous,steve chuckle.jpg,wgvTNDkk+K4KNT103z20FQ==,,,1520453327 163090535,163130607,2018-03-07 20:09:21,">>163130306 No D/C allowed, this is an Authoritarian League of White Supremacists Libertarians thread.",,Anonymous,1487442236253.png,s0DfvflAbVbQ/f9qsQw/eQ==,,,1520453361 163090535,163130811,2018-03-07 20:11:37,">>163130306 The nation above all. Blood and soil. or Maybe the nation if it benefits my economic situation eh, whoever makes me money and makes me look more virtuous. pick one and only one Spaniard.",,Anonymous,985290348.jpg,eMvej7nyJt+b3zGWrW4cXA==,,,1520453497 163090535,163130846,2018-03-07 20:12:04,">>163130607 Unironically, how do you differentiate Communism from Fascism on a technical level?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520453524 163090535,163130944,2018-03-07 20:13:14,">>163130846 There's private property, and we realize that people aren't all equal automatons. We just put the nation before personal capital. read a book retard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520453594 163090535,163131062,2018-03-07 20:14:45,">""""""Libertarian"""""" right >crypto nationalist authoritarians you guys are so desperate to feel morally justified",,Anonymous,DVywof9UMAEkj2u.jpg,7c/Snk4JCU2VURhfXFk2bQ==,,,1520453685 163090535,163131114,2018-03-07 20:15:19,,,Anonymous,,,,,1520453719 163090535,163131296,2018-03-07 20:17:35,">>163131114 i'll just leave these here too https://youtu.be/vATmFHhLKHE https://youtu.be/s3337cj4sJQ https://youtu.be/TW2Uoigo2z0 https://youtu.be/O60ACtH3LfM https://youtu.be/jhwIHynjIew https://youtu.be/iE2JajLnHJQ https://youtu.be/bYgDwyqkaW0 https://youtu.be/1AvC4-qcGIU",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1520453855 163090535,163131463,2018-03-07 20:19:32,">>163130944 Even though Marx states that private property wouldn't be unilaterally abolished under Communism and in practice even gommunists can't avoid inequality in their systems?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520453972 163090535,163131498,2018-03-07 20:19:55,">>163130551 >trying to spin words to nkt make NEETsocs look like the commies they are >>163130607 How is being against an ideology completely different to mine D&C? >>163130811 >you can only choose between whites but socialism and non-whites and capitalism Culture > race anyways",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1520453995 163090535,163131557,2018-03-07 20:20:37,">>163131498 It was sarcasm, mon frere.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520454037 163090535,163132148,2018-03-07 20:26:57,">>163131498 >How is being against an ideology completely different to mine D&C? Because you start off with a false comparison and end with a call to distance yourself from possible allies in the pursuit of shared goals. >Culture > race anyways Doesn't work that friendo. You cant take Rwandans, raise them Icelandic, replace the natives with them, and expect nothing to change. Culture is an expression of racial characteristics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520454417 163090535,163132675,2018-03-07 20:32:33,">>163132148 >Doesn't work that friendo. You cant take Rwandans, raise them Icelandic, replace the natives with them, and expect nothing to change. I'm not one to argue on behalf of the eternal dindu, but you can simultaneously have whites that act like utter niggers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520454753 163090535,163132856,2018-03-07 20:34:30,>>163131114,,Anonymous,Approve.jpg,PL5smbxlhAsRd4MLdweaFA==,CA,,1520454870 163090535,163134383,2018-03-07 20:49:10,">>163121648 TRUE IF BIG",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1520455750 163090535,163134661,2018-03-07 20:51:41,">>163090535 Bump.",,Anonymous,ancap paradise.jpg,Umg2jbpHqjg6yger2K6ysw==,,,1520455901 163090535,163134936,2018-03-07 20:54:23,so right libertarians are against all immigration or only non white immigration? How about high skilled immigration irregardless of race?,,Anonymous,,,CO,,1520456063 163090535,163135014,2018-03-07 20:55:09,">>163134936 If it aint white it aint right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520456109 163090535,163135233,2018-03-07 20:57:19,">>163134936 Sometimes you have to wonder if the poos they bring in on H1-B are really as qualified as they say they are.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520456239 163090535,163135367,2018-03-07 20:58:46,,,Anonymous,Heinlein Quote.png,H3zIwq2DchMUO9M3UFvVRw==,US,,1520456326 163090535,163135474,2018-03-07 21:00:02,">>163134661 if those children would have really wanted to breathe they would have paid the bill",,Anonymous,,,,,1520456402 163090535,163135529,2018-03-07 21:00:32,">>163134936 on my property the one drop rule applies",,Anonymous,,,,,1520456432 163090535,163135639,2018-03-07 21:01:37,">>163090691 >natsoc fuck off leftist subhuman",,Anonymous,redflag.jpg,sJSKpoShLoXSyS/pyZG+9Q==,,,1520456497 163090535,163135810,2018-03-07 21:03:26,">>163132148 >Culture is an expression of racial characteristics. so what about all the white welfare leeches I'm being forced to fund by taxation?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520456606 163090535,163136039,2018-03-07 21:05:47,"I see you misinformed shitheads posting McVeigh. Let's get you informed. Clinton had given the American armed forces over to the United Nations. Our joint chiefs had to ask the UN for permission to deploy American forces. In Bosnia one American soldier, who happened to be from Oklahoma, was being Court Martialed for failing to wear a UN uniform. He said "" just show me where I signed any document stating that I would wear a UN uniform and I will wear it "". His lawyers found the document requiring him to don that UN uniform, an executive order that had been signed by William Jefferson Clinton. The impeachment, and the Treason charges were being processed on the 10th floor of the Oklahoma Federal building. Over 500 individuals and agencies of an Eastern European origin were clearly indicted during the McVeigh trial in Georgia. So dig a little deeper. Get a clue. Don't be so stupid that you fight for your own enemies. They get such justified amusement when you fall for that trick.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520456747 163090535,163136231,2018-03-07 21:07:38,how would land be distributed if say the owner of a huge chunk of land doesn't want to sell and there is no more available land to go?,,Anonymous,,,CO,,1520456858 163090535,163136743,2018-03-07 21:12:57,">>163090691 Fuck off with this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520457177 163090535,163136946,2018-03-07 21:15:07,">>163121985 Source?>>163128454 That's called being a centrist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520457307 163090535,163137087,2018-03-07 21:16:43,">>163136231 >how would land be distributed if say the owner of a huge chunk of land doesn't want to sell and there is no more available land to go? No more zoning laws. Start building upwards and offering apartments for rent.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520457403 163090535,163137305,2018-03-07 21:19:06,">>163092981 They WERE at Anarchapolco a few weeks back, listening to Ron Paul and Bix Weir. Meanwhile, you were here on a Mongolian NatSocAnime board. Step up, poorfag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520457546 163090535,163137306,2018-03-07 21:19:06,">>163134936 I don't care about your color. I just want skilled people coming in this country.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520457546 163090535,163137395,2018-03-07 21:20:00,"In an anarcho capitalist society, would I be able to consensually sign a contract and become my boyfriends slave/property?",,Anonymous,comfy1.jpg,jkc5hdkKxxv5fjl8x5NfJA==,,,1520457600 163090535,163137455,2018-03-07 21:20:41,>>163137395,,Anonymous,molyneux disgust masked.png,oo8txogu2QZqmgKq5H3sEw==,,,1520457641 163090535,163137567,2018-03-07 21:21:53,">>163137455 I'm serious anon!",,Anonymous,,,,,1520457713 163090535,163137775,2018-03-07 21:24:15,">>163137395 stupid awooposter",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520457855 163090535,163137843,2018-03-07 21:24:57,">>163137395 Yes, and if you break that contract your boyfriend could use a private death squad to hunt you with gas powered, expanding spiked dildos",,Anonymous,1487424588254.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,,,1520457897 163090535,163137872,2018-03-07 21:25:17,">>163137306 You're out of luck. I'm white, but I only have a technical degree. Would like to become a professional though",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1520457917 163090535,163137959,2018-03-07 21:26:08,">>163137843 Sounds fair enough! >>163137775 no bully",,Anonymous,mew.jpg,/+mMFcxiNHPcuwZKEXlihg==,,,1520457968 163090535,163138064,2018-03-07 21:27:19,">>163132675 > but you can simultaneously have whites that act like utter niggers And? Who is more likely to act like a nigger, a white or a nigger? Shitty white people is a problem a white country will always have to deal with. Shitty blacks is a problem that can be remedied.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520458039 163090535,163138260,2018-03-07 21:29:17,">>163136039 Might as well point out, five conditions were set in the order signed by Clinton that would return the American armed forces to American control. The attack on Wall Street financial district satisfied one of them. The attack on the Pentagon satisfied another. The Pennsylvania crater also as a separate attack on American soil. The multiple events collectively described as coordinated acts of war turned the majic key and gave the good old US of A its armed forces back and you can take notice of that we have maintained emergency status every day since specifically in order to not have the Clinton/UN agreement conditions be again made active. ( This was a priority for Hillary to return to non emergency status ) It's lots more complicated and intricately convoluted and involved. You barely have ever even been exposed to less than 5% of the truth in the public sector. It's a needle in a haystack game seeking truth. You really have to know what you are looking for and recognize it when you see it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520458157 163090535,163138282,2018-03-07 21:29:33,">>163138064 >Who is more likely to act like a nigger, a white or a nigger? Of course, but if you're provided with an actual individual to evaluate, judge that individual for their merits.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520458173 163090535,163138375,2018-03-07 21:30:42,">>163137959 You deserve to bullied. You're worse than furries. You could stop the bullying by killing yourself of course",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520458242 163090535,163138442,2018-03-07 21:31:27,">>163137395 i better bet so",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520458287 163090535,163138488,2018-03-07 21:31:53,">>163137395 also isn't that the original purpose of marriage anyway?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520458313 163090535,163138503,2018-03-07 21:32:01,">>163138375 But why would I kill myself when there's such a future for us in recreational defense systems?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520458321 163090535,163138573,2018-03-07 21:32:50,">>163093693 Good job excluding all those countries in South America, Africa, Middle East, and Mexico",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520458370 163090535,163138715,2018-03-07 21:34:23,Who would win in a fight: Hoppe or Rothbard?,,Anonymous,,,,,1520458463 163090535,163138800,2018-03-07 21:35:17,">>163138488 I can't say, there was actually a really interesting article I read a few days ago regarding marriage traditions and expectations from BC times. It was that somewhat, but also a sort of pairing of convinence, two people can do more than one after all. >>163138442 fingers crossed then, bf will be very happy",,Anonymous,,,,,1520458517 163090535,163140130,2018-03-07 21:48:47,">>163138800 i bet a lot of women would be quite happy in that constellation if it is voluntary there is no problem, in fact many women are unhappy to day because they are submissive in nature and now it has become a weird fetish which is taken to the extremes as if dominance wasn't a normal think only a half a century ago. women had less rights because they wanted less responsibility but democracy changed that. as they got to vote. this means they now have basicly 2 votes while men before also thought to vote in favor of women, as men are biologically inclined to care about them the overarching state destroyed the natural order. removing this overarching of the state fast and soon enough things should be able to recover",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1520459327 163090535,163140950,2018-03-07 21:57:50,">>163138800 >fingers crossed then, bf will be very happy You're a girl (female), right anon? Right?",,Anonymous,concerned citizen.jpg,1V1MtEGXCV5H3Y0NxV9hdw==,,,1520459870 163160230,163160230,2018-03-08 02:02:52,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, individual liberty and the natural order. These include (but are not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, objectivism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values. Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: AbGmGWH RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!) >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,632f0a68e841fe667e6b0f1c687b164f98495c61e7efce9ca6690a6293877ee5.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1520474572 163160230,163160340,2018-03-08 02:04:32,thread theme: https://youtu.be/bch6Jm9VB9A,,Anonymous,,,,,1520474672 163160230,163160810,2018-03-08 02:10:44,"You write: ""open-border advocates ... are not welcome here."" But your recommended material includes an illustrated summary of my book _The Machinery of Freedom_, a book that includes a chapter arguing for open borders. Does that mean you have viewed the video but not actually read the book and so don't know what is in it? For anyone curious, the second edition is webbed: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf",,David Friedman,,,,,1520475044 163160230,163161189,2018-03-08 02:16:26,">>163160810 There are other good ideas in the book that are beneficial for any anarcho-capitalist to read about. Friedman makes a very good case for a libertarian society in that book and I don't think it's fair for me to dismiss that book from potential new libertarians just because I like closed borders.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520475386 163160230,163161552,2018-03-08 02:21:34,bump,,Anonymous,1491990629807.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,,,1520475694 163160230,163162164,2018-03-08 02:31:32,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1520476292 163160230,163162614,2018-03-08 02:38:51,">open borders meme Wouldn't it be more borders? Like private astates but like 1-9 acres of land each? Like a3 3/5 acre homestead is mine. With a 9 meter size wall with automated turret system. Armed with various weapon types from non lethal rocksalt shotgun shells, to pee shooter .22 lr for raccoons and pigeons. And for the event of the NAP being broken tomahawk MIRV missiles and and HK suicide drone swarms. >wakes up to reality >why can't this meme ideology be fuck real?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520476731 163160230,163163134,2018-03-08 02:47:59,">see a kid walking down the private road to my house >*walking on my property* >idiot kid doesn't know what is coming >pull out my mcAR-15 >load in incendiary bullets >shoots the kid straight in the head >pull him in the house >cut him up >sells his liver and legs to my local mcdonald >makes profit off a idiot kid",,Anonymous,,,,,1520477279 163160230,163163222,2018-03-08 02:49:08,where can i find this video?,,Anonymous,5283591002.jpg,xv21XFXcc+nZ6Lt/rPB/BA==,HU,,1520477348 163160230,163163241,2018-03-08 02:49:26,been looking for full vid of pic related,,Anonymous,7711901003.jpg,+7e8roFLsdMQPBPOUh9dvw==,RU,,1520477366 163160230,163164863,2018-03-08 03:18:25,Bump,,Anonymous,PicsArt_072702.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1520479105 163259653,163259653,2018-03-08 21:42:12,"This is a thread for the discussion of anarcho-capitalism, minarchism, capitalism, and paleolibertarianism. This thread is NOT for left libertarian and open border cucks. RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf THREAD THEME: https://youtu.be/x9FDn4wJeDc",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1492251108954.png,B38AONoEDB7LJcEV671ovA==,,,1520545332 163259653,163260050,2018-03-08 21:46:48,bump,,Anonymous,1494780897944.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,US,,1520545608 163259653,163260062,2018-03-08 21:46:54,,,Anonymous,1490914594067.png,/5GKzkbNfa5iZ2uCnXZy8g==,,,1520545614 163259653,163260465,2018-03-08 21:51:40,,,Anonymous,acb.jpg,XhtdRCMw6tHn+j76/QZleQ==,US,,1520545900 163259653,163260533,2018-03-08 21:52:27,,,Anonymous,AxBE1NZ.png,kMiqQBEb91UVQODMU05Wrw==,US,,1520545947 163259653,163260658,2018-03-08 21:53:53,">>163260533 >police >existing people are a lot nicer when survival is a factor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520546033 163259653,163260852,2018-03-08 21:55:55,">>163260658 >Crime wouldn't exist in an ancap society I didn't know being this retarded was possible",,Anonymous,4kqxqwlynf2z.jpg,f6ewgpTFFwpiOK9POXPK2Q==,US,,1520546155 163259653,163261200,2018-03-08 22:00:00,">>163260852 >crime wouldn't exist There will always be irrational people and opportunists. I think it'd be great if we stopped being led by them. Anyways I'm not ancap, I think people would be free to form their own economic systems once the state is gone and the best ones would come about naturally. Probably mutualism, since ""individuals"" are ultimately overrated. I promote voluntary actions.",,Anonymous,too many spooks.png,QCTFO24XdaQIqB0jlXr7fA==,US,,1520546400 163259653,163261552,2018-03-08 22:03:52,">>163261200 >I think it'd be great if we stopped being led by them. Never gonna happen >the best ones would come about naturally. ""Best"" for a very small portion of the population",,Anonymous,28429129_225626868003895_1555840864910049280_n.jpg,SKyN2haif01LAPen6n1BdQ==,US,,1520546632 163259653,163261707,2018-03-08 22:05:29,">>163261552 >never gonna happen wow dude you got it all figured out >""Best"" for a very small portion of the population define which portion",,Anonymous,no trespassing.jpg,V6D9a/c/JHHdr52JhmwBmg==,US,,1520546729 163259653,163261928,2018-03-08 22:07:51,">>163260050 Mises and Ayn Rand were for open borders, retard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520546871 163259653,163262088,2018-03-08 22:09:48,">>163261707 >wow dude you got it all figured out Name a world leader that isn't irrational or an opportunist. I don't claim to have the world figured out like, you know, ancaps. >define which portion The one with disproportionately more wealth and influence than the rest",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520546988 163259653,163262141,2018-03-08 22:10:23,any discord,,Anonymous,,,US,,1520547023 163259653,163262554,2018-03-08 22:15:13,">>163261928 AND DISCRIMINATION AND ZERO TAXES",,Anonymous,,,,,1520547313 163259653,163262817,2018-03-08 22:18:11,"been reading man, economy, and state on the heels of having read ethics of liberty. been very eye opening. been having a lot of fun debating my socialist coworkers :)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520547491 163259653,163263015,2018-03-08 22:20:14,">>163262817 Did you like the section on immigration in Man, Economy and the State?",,Anonymous,,,,,1520547614 163259653,163263165,2018-03-08 22:21:59,"Rothbard in Man, Economy and the State: >The loss to everyone as consumers from shackling the inter-regional division of labor and the efficient location of production, should not be overlooked in considering the effects of immigration barriers. The reductio ad absurdum, though not quite as devastating as in the case of the tariff, is also relevant here. >As Cooley and Poirot point out: If it is sound to erect a barrier along our national boundary lines, against those who see greater opportunities here than in their native land, why should we not erect similar barriers between states and localities within our nation? Why should a low-paid worker be allowed to migrate from a failing buggy shop in Massachusetts to the expanding automobile shops in Detroit. He would compete with native Detroiters for food and clothing and housing. He might be willing to work for less than the prevailing wage in Detroit, “upsetting the labor market” there. Anyhow, he was a native of Massachusetts, and therefore that state should bear the full “responsibility for his welfare.” Those are matters we might ponder, but our honest answer to all of them is reflected in our actions. We’d rather ride in automobiles than in buggies. It would be foolish to try to buy an automobile or anything else on the free market, and at the same time deny any individual an opportunity to help produce those things we want. >The advocate of immigration laws who fears a reduction in his standard of living is actually misdirecting his fire. Implicitly, he believes that his geographic area now exceeds its optimum population point. What he really fears, therefore, is not so much immigration as any population growth. To be consistent, therefore, he would have to advocate compulsory birth control, to slow down the rate of population growth desired by individual parents.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520547719 163259653,163263277,2018-03-08 22:23:12,i got banned for talking about penises,,Anonymous,1520477118565.jpg,wZzekHUr+/L47wiKYnAXEw==,,,1520547792 163259653,163263329,2018-03-08 22:23:44,">>163263015 i dgaf about immigration",,Anonymous,,,US,,1520547824 163259653,163263491,2018-03-08 22:25:45,">>163263329 Well, the ""Libertarian Right"" retards in these threads do.",,Anonymous,,,,,1520547945 163259653,163263981,2018-03-08 22:31:48,bump,,Anonymous,1519172831118.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,,,1520548308 163259653,163264782,2018-03-08 22:41:33,someone wanna rank rothbard's best books for me?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1520548893 164458786,164458786,2018-03-18 15:47:33,"Ancaps, classical libs and libertarians get in here",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,1521143390927.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1521388053 164458786,164459078,2018-03-18 15:50:19,,,Anonymous,1521091364085.jpg,14TdecE6qplE+khvUxHDDQ==,,,1521388219 164458786,164459166,2018-03-18 15:51:11,,,Anonymous,1520047395948.png,j9fyi05tZPASBY6+3hdqjw==,,,1521388271 164580610,164580610,2018-03-19 15:30:46,"This thread is dedicated to discussion of free markets, natural law, self ownership, the non-aggression principle, and physical removal. RECOMMENDED READING >Frederic Bastiat - The Law https://mises.org/library/law >Murray Rothbard - The Ethics of Liberty https://mises.org/library/ethics-liberty >Hans Hermann-Hoppe - Democracy: The God that Failed http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1521473446 164580610,164580962,2018-03-19 15:33:40,,,Anonymous,glitch_art_20180206174010.jpg,uYTeJu9EFBwfzrBlxtUo5g==,US,,1521473620 164580610,164581044,2018-03-19 15:34:17,,,Anonymous,Rothbard Quote.jpg,BPjB7gBIHKdQ/zPqmXN/oA==,US,,1521473657 164580610,164581595,2018-03-19 15:38:50,,,Anonymous,1505080937493m.jpg,ZQ6m114JTuAv8AGcOZ7txQ==,US,,1521473930 164580610,164582934,2018-03-19 15:49:51,">>164581595 What if small regions combine and form a big country and that country starts taking over small regions?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1521474591 164580610,164583149,2018-03-19 15:51:36,">>164582934 By that point, everyone will hopefully be armed and the invader will just get shot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1521474696 164580610,164583256,2018-03-19 15:52:40,">>164583149 >hopefully Hmmmm...",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1521474760 164580610,164583671,2018-03-19 15:56:07,Glad to see /lrg/ is back,,Anonymous,1510792629872.jpg,fGBJWKfOqmBvcvCR/cqBuA==,BE,,1521474967 164580610,164587451,2018-03-19 16:29:07,,,Anonymous,20171107172402_glitch.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,US,,1521476947 164580610,164588143,2018-03-19 16:35:18,">>164580610 libertarianism. simple ideas for simple minds.",,Anonymous,DE024ZCWsAAGBrt.jpg,SKAr+DMbePw9iACHbKjz3g==,CA,,1521477318 164580610,164588824,2018-03-19 16:41:06,">>164588143 It's good as a base idea but of course needs some pragmatic edits.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1521477666 164580610,164591220,2018-03-19 17:01:40,This one's new!,,Anonymous,20180309_170508.jpg,xnt24eone/SKgTfNjul6TA==,US,,1521478900 164580610,164592190,2018-03-19 17:10:19,">>164591220 his grandstanding will add up to nothing",,Anonymous,Screenshot at 2018-03-19 16-16-13.png,cTRCyCeOK+/gcPKPvHcmWA==,CA,,1521479419 164580610,164593362,2018-03-19 17:20:12,">>164580610 Are trumps plans to cut prices of opioid prescription medication by a third anti libertarian? Serious question https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-pledge-arrest-drug-dealers-pharmacists-opioid-crisis-death-penalty-a8264181.html",,Anonymous,1521150496315.jpg,03YV1kS9Ic3ZDztk/yFWqw==,US,,1521480012 164746064,164746064,2018-03-20 20:37:12,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1484584482845.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,,,1521578232 164746064,164746206,2018-03-20 20:38:17,thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsXwxif4dQ4,,Anonymous,1487424588254.png,vVN1aB6ZzFi5GphBMB4WUQ==,,,1521578297 164746064,164747086,2018-03-20 20:45:24,,,Anonymous,1495238799045.png,UREL/d3I//fas0UU70FSIA==,,,1521578724 164746064,164747736,2018-03-20 20:50:08,,,Anonymous,1495238456785.png,j5wbFkPBZ5wTXDso5Ejjxg==,,,1521579008 166471424,166471424,2018-04-02 15:13:32,">Discussion Topic: What does everyone think of the recent Mises Institute controversy with radcap? See: https://radicalcapitalist.org/2018/01/25/clearing-up-the-hoppe-foreword-controversy/ This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_crest.png,odibbxgK7OBD7UFBScvERg==,GB,,1522682012 166471424,166471675,2018-04-02 15:15:56,"Bumping for life, liberty and property.",,Anonymous,Ancap Flag Gun 3.png,Wlqh2fM2afFv2pVsP3rzDA==,,,1522682156 166471424,166471893,2018-04-02 15:18:04,"What mises did to radcap is bullshit. If you put negative pressure on the right message when the only thing not being spoken is the right message, you are an enemy to the whole movement in my eyes. I don't actionably think they are enemies by any means, but this particular action was one of an enemy, so that's a pretty major knock against them in my eyes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522682284 166471424,166472008,2018-04-02 15:19:19,"hey guys lets eliminate the big bad state and let the corporations rule us, so epic, amirite",,Anonymous,11026015_845404615532525_5110406436536531731_n.jpg,7eZjMl/ISG/X2ovw/wJJdA==,,,1522682359 166471424,166472157,2018-04-02 15:20:38,"It makes me pretty upset to see the Mises Institute cuck like they did, but the book is out and its all done with now. I think its a real problem that Hoppe can't act as a free agent because of the institute. shame man. Glad /lrg/ is back fellas.",,Anonymous,No Taxation3.png,JvUu8q+d0CftR7JPvwUKGw==,,,1522682438 166471424,166472260,2018-04-02 15:21:38,">>166472008 Corporations provide services to people who want them. The state enforces it's own customs upon it's citizens and often results in political dogma.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522682498 166471424,166472268,2018-04-02 15:21:42,">>166472008 You're unarguable ruled by the state in that they have utter dominion over your life if you choose and pretty much nobody has the power to resist them; the only restraint on their exploitation of you rests in the public's opinion of them. What cooperation can ruin you in the same way? When have businesses waged wars, locked people up for crimes they didn't commit or for exposing the truth, murdered political enemies?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522682502 166471424,166472295,2018-04-02 15:21:59,"yeah guys lets eliminate socialised medicine and if you get cancer, well you can pray to saint mises so he can cure you, tough luck, commie cuck!",,Anonymous,,,,,1522682519 166471424,166472398,2018-04-02 15:23:04,">>166472268 >You're unarguable ruled by the state I got social security, socialised medicine, protection of the state, pretty comfy arrangment for me. If I wanted no state I would go to Africa.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522682584 166471424,166472401,2018-04-02 15:23:07,">>166472295 This guy gets it.",,Anonymous,LeaveUsAlone.png,DjX09060Ek8usYxYahw2TA==,,,1522682587 166471424,166472414,2018-04-02 15:23:11,">>166472295 I don't wanna pay for someone else's healthcare. And the healthcare that the government provides isn't even helpful to begin with.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522682591 166471424,166472521,2018-04-02 15:24:21,"Hoppean psuedo-libertarian white nationalists, explain why white people are consistently more pro-war than non-whites.",,Anonymous,iraq war.gif,402FE7pgBsNyXQZwJpV0zQ==,,,1522682661 166471424,166472613,2018-04-02 15:25:14,">>166472414 >the government provides isn't even helpful to begin with tell me about the healthcare in the US, when pretty much no one can afford their therapies, but hey it's the socialised medicine that is the problem, amirite",,Anonymous,nhsrank.png,9jbxaGWogbYs6Oh0PUKv+Q==,,,1522682714 166471424,166472701,2018-04-02 15:26:05,">>166472401 Why won't white people leave the rest of the country alone? White people love war, the military, tariffs, police abuse, immigration restrictions, etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522682765 166471424,166472757,2018-04-02 15:26:40,">>166472401 >shills for libertarianism >puts a traditional family hahaha no, it would be a pozz fest",,Anonymous,,,,,1522682800 166471424,166472769,2018-04-02 15:26:47,">>166471424 Communism makes more sense than your ""libertarian right""",,Anonymous,1510923065058.jpg,7P63VxHh/oR2qmu8DkpKcA==,,,1522682807 166471424,166472838,2018-04-02 15:27:39,">>166472769 libertarian right is basicaly >I'm too selfish and too far up my own asshole to help others",,Anonymous,,,,,1522682859 166471424,166472914,2018-04-02 15:28:20,I see /lrg/ removed the Machinery of Freedom from the reading list after David Friedman visited one of these threads and BTFO Hoppean retards.,,Anonymous,hoppeans BTFO.png,pu7Qa0h8gg+dWZolyuF4zQ==,,,1522682900 166471424,166472964,2018-04-02 15:28:45,,,Anonymous,1488586406950_0.png,6143oEQpuGBS+KER6gew8A==,GB,,1522682925 166471424,166472988,2018-04-02 15:29:00,">>166472701 I'm a white person, I'm not for any of those things. I can't believe you'd apply collective guilt to a whole vauge genetic group, you collectivist racist shitlord. ayylmao.",,Anonymous,Slave2.png,aDO1VeOodimhaWMXXZE9Dw==,,,1522682940 166471424,166473070,2018-04-02 15:29:54,">>166472008 Corporations are anti capitalist fagot, they hate competition. Only good products should survive.",,Anonymous,thinkaboutit.png,2T+cXWh1vohJi1Fa6bFPrg==,,,1522682994 166471424,166473145,2018-04-02 15:30:34,">>166472008 name one big corporation that isn't subsided by the government",,Anonymous,,,,,1522683034 166471424,166473172,2018-04-02 15:30:48,">>166472157 I agree Hoppe should be allowed to support whoever or whatever it is he believes is right. He is a philosopher and economist, his opinion shouldn't be shackled by the image of some institution. He wholeheartedly supported radcap, as is evidenced by his conversations with radcap about the foreword and how he put so much effort into it. Him getting suppressed for the sake of Mises' appearance as non-racist is fucking stupid, considering the conversation that needs to be happening now is heavily linked to the topics radcap brings up in his attempt to unify the alt-right and ancaps Our entire thread is based on the ideas that radcap is talking about, they're the true ancap values and the necessarily conservative nature of private propertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522683048 166471424,166473344,2018-04-02 15:32:35,">>166472988 DAS RITE!",,Anonymous,libertarian nationalism.jpg,8MnS/SisUVS7sF84PGBnuQ==,,,1522683155 166471424,166473544,2018-04-02 15:34:27,">>166473344 absolutely based my fellow magapede, i gotta get my hands on the book with that cover.",,Anonymous,The Family_Full.png,CBwhYh4z7kc8lqDhV7HmLw==,,,1522683267 166471424,166473754,2018-04-02 15:36:36,">>166473544 >magapede you must be confused shitskins better git off my porperty before I git the Zyklon B to ""delouse"" their mangy asses",,Anonymous,nazurdo.png,MRA61z4AySG6CFQlOt8WqA==,,,1522683396 166471424,166473805,2018-04-02 15:37:08,does anyone have the doxx of the Ancom guy who turned out to be a homo? LOL,,Anonymous,,,,,1522683428 166471424,166473948,2018-04-02 15:38:23,">>166473145 >bernie sanders calls for the ending of govt subsidies >HURR FUCKING KIKE COMMIE SHILL DURR",,Anonymous,,,,,1522683503 166471424,166474027,2018-04-02 15:39:15,">>166473754 dont delouse my property bro, return them and I'll pay you for the escapees. >>166473805 AnComs being homos isn't news to anyone, just visit r/anarchism and you'll probably find it.",,Anonymous,Crush.png,HQl3OeUH7jJVktLD9nJrwA==,,,1522683555 166471424,166474246,2018-04-02 15:41:19,">>166474027 I mean anticom LOL",,Anonymous,,,,,1522683679 166471424,166474401,2018-04-02 15:42:48,">>166474246 lol, nice. What are you doing here man? You just hate libertarians and have nothing better to do than act a fool?",,Anonymous,LibRightGen.png,DAo6xn5yvke1kVAw7+HlUQ==,,,1522683768 166471424,166474595,2018-04-02 15:44:38,">>166471424 >taxation is theft So what are you gonna do about it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1522683878 166471424,166474647,2018-04-02 15:45:10,">>166474401 >g-go away! pls someone post the doxx on the homo who led the anticom group, LEL",,Anonymous,,,,,1522683910 166471424,166474698,2018-04-02 15:45:35,">>166471424 Ancap is not capitalist nor anarchist. We will first establish that ancap is by no means anarchistic. Anarchy has been desribed as a system of no rulers, but on the other hand ancap allows the existance of rulers, as long as they claim to own the land which they rule. However per this logic states are just the private owneres of a piece of land excercising their property rights by laws. We can therefore conclude that any state from the US to commuist china are perfectly valid per ancap principles, and any counterargument to this would try to differentiate between state and private property, but any state considers its land its property, and any land given away has been given so under the agreement that the laws of the state apply within said land. We can now show that ancap is by no means capitalist. First consider how capitalism has been broadly described as free markets in combination with the private ownership of the means of production. Furthermore many consider the gold standard to be necessary for true capitalism. However per the anarcho capitalist principles nothing prevents me from not following these principles on my own proeprty, and I could for example raise tarifs or issue currency. We can therefore conclude that anarcho capitalism is neither anarcho, nor capitalist, but rather instead is private property worship.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522683935 166471424,166474965,2018-04-02 15:47:54,,,Anonymous,1520942781046.jpg,chrn1xt+D/xLmEv8ObMhRA==,,,1522684074 166471424,166475039,2018-04-02 15:48:33,">>166474647 I asked you a question, I didn't tell you to go man. I'm having fun with you. Why dont you join our discord and get to know us? we're really fun people.",,Anonymous,DontFukWithDis2.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,,,1522684113 166471424,166475112,2018-04-02 15:49:14,">>166472838 Oh no that other tribe got wiped out, by sabertooth tigers, should I give survivors my own food and risk, the lives of my tribe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522684154 166471424,166475114,2018-04-02 15:49:14,">>166474027 >hands nigger slaves over for loot >invests into AI and bots >out competes your cotton production and kills your business",,Anonymous,nazibot.jpg,vlVkbY7ymHpkFPFperLang==,,,1522684154 166471424,166475158,2018-04-02 15:49:40,">>166474698 Yeah I think AnCap is an odd label, I prefer Lassiez-Faire.",,Anonymous,physical2.png,9FzuelM7b5rL6aYH5Fj2Ow==,,,1522684180 166471424,166475327,2018-04-02 15:51:04,">>166474965 The biggest recipients of transfer payments are old white people on social security and medicare.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522684264 166471424,166475342,2018-04-02 15:51:11,">>166475114 lmao, why would I use them to pick cotton in this age? they play basketball and make the big bucks for me.",,Anonymous,10ed.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,,,1522684271 166471424,166475520,2018-04-02 15:52:43,">>166471424 Wouldn't the free market be better with regulations to enforce competitiveness like how the NFL has a salary cap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522684363 166471424,166475906,2018-04-02 15:56:14,">>166473948 High taxes on the rich is an indirect, yet one of the most powerful forms of subsidy. While you, owner of Facebook, Google or whatever multibillionaire corporation will have to give up from a small fraction of your profit, the medium and small companies (and yes, they are ALL legally included in ""the rich"") will struggle to survive. Then, the govt. will use this same money to create tons of regulations that on the big ones can follow. These types of corporation-government alliances are the only viable way that the govt. has to collect such amount of money to pay for Bernie's utopic proposals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522684574 166471424,166475924,2018-04-02 15:56:20,">>166475327 By percentage or total amount? What ever the answer will be I support cutting that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522684580 166471424,166476174,2018-04-02 15:58:49,">>166474698 >freestyle semantics >strawman",,Anonymous,,,,,1522684729 166471424,166476299,2018-04-02 15:59:56,">>166471424 Can someone redpill me on national capitalism? Is it sorta like national socialism without the bullshit welfare, property control, ect? Is it basically pic related?",,Anonymous,1522354426790.jpg,cfAZGb6G5omdAjRZVob8aw==,US,,1522684796 166471424,166476397,2018-04-02 16:00:56,">>166476299 Gay meme ideology that turns white people into jews",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522684856 166471424,166476454,2018-04-02 16:01:23,">>166475327 >Biggest Sure, now let's see the per-capita spending and net tax payments.",,Anonymous,1520821455105.png,m91EpDmosjBCgfPrN5lwuw==,US,,1522684883 166471424,166476693,2018-04-02 16:03:29,">>166476299 its regular libertarianism with the understanding that we like our people and wouldn't fuck then over.",,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,,,1522685009 166471424,166476740,2018-04-02 16:03:57,">>166476397 And that's bad why? Jews aren't white. Are you talking about just whites being in control like the Jews?",,Anonymous,1494491808652.jpg,Gyk3ry6lIVef/E2lU+Bl0A==,US,,1522685037 166471424,166476869,2018-04-02 16:05:11,">>166476740 It turns white people into money grubbing materialistic monsters who only worship profit and individual gain",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522685111 166471424,166477097,2018-04-02 16:07:31,">>166476299 ""National Capitalism"" is another name for the Maintenance of a Libertarian Social Order. If you simply ""live and let live"", certain movements that threaten such a social order might arise. One famous quote from Hoppe's Democracy the God that Failed that summarises it: ""In a covenant...among proprietor and community tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property, no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists, not even to unlimited speech on one’s own tenant-property. One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very covenant of preserving and protecting private property, such as democracy and communism. There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They–the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centred lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism–will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1522685251 166471424,166477186,2018-04-02 16:08:32,">>166476869 That just sounds like another day in the world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522685312 166471424,166477296,2018-04-02 16:09:33,">>166477097 What the hell is nature environment worship supposed to mean? Paganism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522685373 166471424,166477782,2018-04-02 16:14:29,">>166477097 That actually sounds great considering true democracy doesn't exist and communism gets you killed. What about the state? Does it follow a similar path to minarchy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522685669 166471424,166477886,2018-04-02 16:15:30,">>166476174 And can you point out exactly where?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522685730 166471424,166479106,2018-04-02 16:27:27,">>166472914 I don't see why they removed it. Just because a guy has some bad arguments doesn't mean the rest of his work is bad. Add it back I say. Also Hoppe is right about borders. People naturally should own their property borders and that should make the borders of whatever communities exist. Libertarians should support strict border controls in lieu of open ones because a normal property owner would typically choose not to allow just anyone into their property. They would be very careful about who they let in, excluding anyone they might consider to be criminal or otherwise not acceptable. States should shut their borders to all, unless they have some kind of permit to enter given by a citizen who wishes to sponsor their entry. They shouldn't be allowed to stay if their sponsor does not wish to house them anymore. That's how states should manage borders if they were to remain in line with their duty as protector of our rights, but of course we know that will never happen",,Anonymous,,,,,1522686447 166471424,166479804,2018-04-02 16:34:29,">>166479106 Absolutely retarded. Enforcing illegitimate state borders is a violation of individuals' rights, not a protection of them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522686869 166471424,166479962,2018-04-02 16:36:00,">>166477296 Vegan and animal rights activists basically: you can't force people to be vegan and animal rights don't exist. Even being a vegan activist might degenerate society and should not be tolerated passively",,Anonymous,,,,,1522686960 166471424,166479970,2018-04-02 16:36:04,">>166472521 Blacks still obliviously cling to the mindset of slaves, and generally lack the critical thinking skills to assess political questions in a balanced way (hence 76% ""Iraq War was bad,"" 90% voting skewed in favor of the same Democratic Party that owned their ancestors, etc). Consider that the United States was founded as a white ethnostate with virtually non-existent economic restrictions and limitless economic and political opportunities for propertied white males, independent of the institution of slavery itself. That framework (legal, social and economic) has now been entirely dismantled, but blacks still cling to an inherited culture forged during years of involuntary servitude. If wars serve the state, it's no surprise that those who ""feel"" - ignorantly - that they have no political or economic agency would oppose any war by default without critically assessing whether that war is just, or necessary, or beneficial. > more libertarian than you, comrade",,Anonymous,,,,,1522686964 166471424,166480154,2018-04-02 16:37:54,">>166477782 There would be no state. The physical removal would occur through social controls such as ostracism. There may also be clauses in place for various critical infrastructure such as arbitration, protection, insurance, etc. In a free society, corporations can discriminate on political lines, and there would be little repercussions from cutting off service to those who would push for the destruction of their culture/society. Think of what the Christians tried to do, except without a State forcing them to service those they didn't agree with. >>166479804 I provided an argument as to why states should have restricted borders and you stated they shouldn't. Provide an argument to back your claim, or why are you even here?",,Anonymous,,,,,1522687074 166471424,166480237,2018-04-02 16:38:43,">Disgussion Dobig: Whad dos everyon dhing of dhe regend Misus Insdidude gondroversy widh radgab? Se: https://radigalgabidalisd.org/2018/01/25/glearing-ub-dhe-hobbe-foreword-gondroversy/ Dhis is a dhread for dhe disgussion of all ideologies dhat bromode self-ownershib, bolundary associadion, self-gobernange, indibidual liberdy EBIN! an dhe nadural order. Dhis mean brimarily anargho-gabidalisds, minarghists, nadional gabidalisds and sum monarghisds. Odhers ar welgome do debade us. DHREAD RESOURCES: >BasdEBIN!: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Disgord(Dhodally nod a honeybod) & Boog Glub: fnmp99D REGOMMENDED READIN: >Dhe Low (Fredrig BASEDiad) - misses.org/liverary/low >Anadomy ov dhe Sdade (Murai Rodhghild) - misses.org/liverary/anadomy-sdade >Vor a Niu Liberdy (Murai Rodhghild) - misses.org/liverary/old-liberdy-liberdarian-manifesdo(Dhodally nod as usles as de gommunisd on) >Demogracy: Dhe Dog dhat Faild (Hans German-Hobbe) - riosmauricio.gom/wp-gondend/ubloads/2013/04/Hobbe_Demogracy_Dhe_Dog_Dhat_Fail.pdf(bud nod fail as much as angap. I hope) FURDHER READIN: >Referens - Se i.imgur.gom/wCIAgna.jpg >Dorrend - magned:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f1eb1n6000000j00s7574e5d616&dn=Anargho-Gabidalism%20Boogs DHREAD DUNES: >Hobbewave blaylisd - jewtube.gom/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU [Embed] >I need a Binoched! - jewtube.gom/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drob id lige id's Hobbe - jewtube.gom/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGOY [Embed]",,Anonymous,liberdarian general.png,kGUa8Sxfc+L8ORfumVHMyg==,AR,,1522687123 166471424,166481064,2018-04-02 16:46:50,">>166472008 >le corporations take over mem",,Anonymous,eL7_BFQW3XfTroeyzv9KqX8CaaWStPn-xjKF44qqHxY.jpg,iQ8gOCw4V1uha3i5KMSBXw==,US,,1522687610 166471424,166481220,2018-04-02 16:48:12,"Fuck the state, hail our people.",,Anonymous,1500077829227.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,PL,,1522687692 166471424,166481574,2018-04-02 16:52:01,"Everything has been more shit than usual since 2001. Bump because the unpatriotic Patriot Act, Not Neutrality, ""Fight Online Sex Trafficking"" Act, and the ""Stop Enabling Sex Trafficking"" Act that'll do exactly what it says on the tin, and totally not overstep the government's boundaries.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522687921 166471424,166481744,2018-04-02 16:53:40,">>166471424 >What does everyone think of the recent Mises Institute controversy with radcap? If someone asks you not to publish their work like Hoppe did, you ought to respect his/her wishes. Chase must have either been very desperate or just plain autistic to have ignored him like that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522688020 166471424,166482087,2018-04-02 16:56:58,">>166480237 alternate logo",,Anonymous,liberdarianism general.png,QOf9Wk7XAHbFNVGFC8oRZA==,AR,,1522688218 166471424,166482264,2018-04-02 16:58:49,,,Anonymous,1522298000161.png,pIlxZOFuaEMbZGS8oTFOeA==,AR,,1522688329 166471424,166482510,2018-04-02 17:01:05,">>166482264 Completa la tarea antes de shitposting, negrito.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522688465 166471424,166482516,2018-04-02 17:01:07,">>166471424 Can I hug my greatest ally?",,Anonymous,better live as a shitlord.jpg,2LML+fpMrCSrduXf3MJJWg==,,,1522688467 166471424,166482818,2018-04-02 17:04:02,">>166482510 jajaja sos un spic? te tenes que volver a mejico",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1522688642 166471424,166483955,2018-04-02 17:14:26,">>166482516 How's it been Fascistbro?",,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1522689266 166471424,166484254,2018-04-02 17:16:44,">>166483955 I've got 88 problems and a chink girl is one but good to see a thread up again",,Anonymous,hoppe democracy.jpg,IjRVVkmwB6DUR+Xf//TTgA==,,,1522689404 166471424,166484712,2018-04-02 17:20:50,">>166484254 Good to hear from you brother, threads should become more frequent again. long live /lrg/!",,Anonymous,No Taxation (2).png,2tnP3Er7/bRXWE5TaMsF5A==,,,1522689650 166471424,166485060,2018-04-02 17:23:51,">>166484712 Heil Hoppe!!",,Anonymous,hoppe knows what women want.png,Uvjx9UjzJD1sbUeJEkjGkQ==,,,1522689831 166471424,166485749,2018-04-02 17:29:49,">>166485060 Interesting (yet good) to see a fascist approve of Hoppe. Can you elaborate on your views? I'm used to fascists being anticapitalistic, anti-freedom, etc., so I wonder if there's some wing of fascism I haven't encountered yet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522690189 166471424,166486487,2018-04-02 17:36:15,">>166485749 too tired for it sorry and I did explain it before in those threads but basically hoppe's views will raise the level of a given society and therefore the level of a race.",,Anonymous,der boomer.jpg,73D2x1t/szSggndM5d8lfw==,,,1522690575 166740637,166740637,2018-04-04 15:09:50,"Shills, fuck off. If you're not a fan of ""lolbergs"", it's best you go back to /ptg/. >Discussion Topic: Are you ever tempted by other political ideologies - what keeps you a libertarian? This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_rebellion_tyrants_obedience_god.png,QE3FUwRKFDop4/S6ISmacA==,GB,,1522854590 166740637,166740965,2018-04-04 15:12:59,">>166740637 Benis bump",,Anonymous,1521183583232.png,J4km+bZdyF49kmDaGaTGCA==,SE,,1522854779 166740637,166741354,2018-04-04 15:16:57,engibump,,Anonymous,1519497297193m.jpg,5ossPDAqahvBqmxsWiCXLA==,DE,,1522855017 166740637,166741521,2018-04-04 15:18:30,">>166740637 I've noticed that /lrg/ tends not to reach the bump limit. Maybe the right ideas will never be accepted. What's the one video people should watch? It's too bad it takes at least 30 minutes to explain AnCap. >Coming of Age With Murray | Hans-Hermann Hoppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAmrjbGHaOQ",,Anonymous,hoppe removal.png,FLQZpZL/imjJJIRfu8BWEw==,US,,1522855110 166740637,166741837,2018-04-04 15:21:36,"This may be the best short video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD6efV3dEPs",,Anonymous,1522818328770.jpg,9nH/B4DCzrDmAmhs9V3KIA==,US,,1522855296 166740637,166741882,2018-04-04 15:22:00,">>166741521 I remember back in the day /lrg/ would reach the bump threads, 6-ish months ago. We've been inactive recently, maybe it can get some activity again.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522855320 166740637,166742075,2018-04-04 15:23:53,">>166740637 >Are you ever tempted by other political ideologies No. There is nothing appealing whatsoever about any other class of political philosophy - they all advocate completely intolerable tyranny.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522855433 166740637,166742456,2018-04-04 15:27:11,">>166741521 I'd go with this video, since secessionism is the project most likely to actually get people who don't like us and whom we don't like to go be crazy without us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXOEdvfMeIY",,Praceteom,,,,,1522855631 166740637,166743521,2018-04-04 15:36:26,">>166742456 I see your point, but he's not an entertaining communicator like Hoppe or (not an AnCap) Milton Friedman. There's no point if it's not entertaining. This is a big hole to dig out of!",,Anonymous,awoo dunces.jpg,oobW+du+Cyd+vIPM1+8LZw==,US,,1522856186 166740637,166743530,2018-04-04 15:36:33,"I used to be tempted to side with the Nazis but ways always turned off by the socialism and totalitarianism. These days there's a lot more Libertarian white identity people and so I feel more at home with my lolbergery. Thank you /lrg/, you guys were a big part of making that happen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522856193 166740637,166743622,2018-04-04 15:37:10,BUT WHO WILL UPHOLD THE NAP????,,Anonymous,,,,,1522856230 166740637,166743788,2018-04-04 15:38:42,">>166743622 (You) yourself are responsible for that. Also, Czech 'em",,Anonymous,1522641860714.jpg,bBj0a9NHM+oK541vSiXZ8A==,US,,1522856322 166740637,166744062,2018-04-04 15:41:00,">>166743521 >not entertaining Tom is really entertaining. He's also incredibly reasonable.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522856460 166740637,166744229,2018-04-04 15:42:33,">>166743788 nice get m8 are there any podcasts or whatever about ancap out there? ill listen to it tomorrow at work",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1522856553 166740637,166744589,2018-04-04 15:45:44,">>166744229 https://tomwoods.com/podcasts/ Really good podcast.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522856744 166740637,166744646,2018-04-04 15:46:19,>>166744229,,Anonymous,image.jpg,6pF+71fb9vT+3FvyOpvvdQ==,SE,,1522856779 166740637,166744713,2018-04-04 15:46:55,">>166744589 thx bro",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1522856815 166740637,166744985,2018-04-04 15:49:10,"I sometimes find myself tempted by republicanism, especially as that's one of the most dominant ideologies in the history of political philosophy. What keeps me libertarian is contemporary political reality; that is, of what a wreck the system has turned out to be. Pic unrelated.",,Anonymous,bg.png,qk/HrnIW7gxEbEVSfM2IDg==,US,,1522856950 166740637,166745012,2018-04-04 15:49:24,Have a bump,,Anonymous,1504211174695.jpg,A73ADk887tVtoR2f3Yj3Gg==,AU,,1522856964 166740637,166745152,2018-04-04 15:50:41,">>166740637 Bump",,Anonymous,,,,,1522857041 166740637,166745811,2018-04-04 15:56:35,I love liberty!,,Anonymous,ted.jpg,XnseA+Sp4ULk3rfvV6LhDQ==,US,,1522857395 166740637,166747226,2018-04-04 16:08:57,">>166742075 I always felt like if you switch from ancap to something else you are a supreme idiot because ancap is the logical conclusion. Only teenage females and dumb opportunists switch from ancap to something else.",,Anonymous,consent.png,Z6nbNVcfa6VR2F6Dv/ycUg==,,,1522858137 166740637,166748017,2018-04-04 16:16:29,">>166747226 It means a person didn't understand what they were supposedly committed to in the first place.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522858589 166740637,166748598,2018-04-04 16:22:06,">>166744589 Really great podcast.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522858926 166740637,166749129,2018-04-04 16:26:47,">>166740637 >Are you ever tempted by other political ideologies - what keeps you a libertarian? Not really tempted by any particular ideology, even though I switched from Rothbardianism to Thomism a while ago. I changed my opinion on some liberty-related topics, like emergency theft and the subjugation of savages, but these don't make any real difference in my overall conclusions. People can steal from you to save themselves from starving to death, so what? How does that lead you to an institutionalized system of theft to ensure that everyone has access to color television? And subjugating savages, how does that justify subjugating non-savages? >>166747226 >>166748017 This is true in the great majority of cases, honestly. I can conceive of counter-examples, but can't think of any that I encountered.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522859207 166740637,166749216,2018-04-04 16:27:33,">>166748017 It isn't even a matter of commitment. All it takes to be an ancap is that you 1) understand that the state is an expropriating property protector, which is an oxymoron, and 2) realize that it would be preferable to have something else, regardless of whether you believe such an outcome to be realistic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522859253 166740637,166749294,2018-04-04 16:28:11,"what if i'm a micro-national socialist with a libertarian, natural-order bent? freiheit heil",,Anonymous,,,,,1522859291 166740637,166749356,2018-04-04 16:28:41,">>166749129 >People can steal from you to save themselves from starving to death, so what? Interested to hear about your justification for this desu, not because it's unreasonable, but because it's an uncommon opinion (amongst ancaps)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522859321 166740637,166749582,2018-04-04 16:30:50,">>166749216 >realize that it would be preferable That's the thing though - many people's preferences aren't aligned with such concerns in the first place. They're more concerned with other things - nowadays it's identity shit. They're perfectly willing to accept tyranny so long as there's a veneer of the goons speaking what they want to hear (regardless of whether it's the truth or whether it comes to fruition - they don't have the attention spans to go beyond surface impressions in the first place).",,Praceteom,,,,,1522859450 166740637,166750036,2018-04-04 16:34:58,">>166747226 >>166748017 >>166749129 I must also say, in all my years as an ancap, I have seen one explicit critique of Rothbardianism that was decent, and that one was from Edward Feser and not conclusive at all. It was easy to evade his critique by modifying your own philosophy slightly. To him, that didn't matter, because all he wanted to demonstrate was that Rothbard was a bad philosopher and he thought he did that. He contrasted Rothbard with Hume, who apparently was not a bad philosopher, even though Hume threw over a thousand years of good metaphysics and ethics out the window. I think Feser was butthurt about something and had an axe to grind. So yeah, that was the only good critique of Rothbard I have found. It was not conclusive at all, and I have never seen it referenced anywhere else. And never, when I asked one of these types who say they used to be a Rothbardian like me, did I ever encounter one who could give good reason for rejecting him, only half baked consequential or worthless aesthetic arguments.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522859698 166740637,166750206,2018-04-04 16:36:33,">>166740637 A libertarian society is not safe from outside influences. Considering all possible options when dealing with domestic affairs, the libertarian way is the most profound and effective one. A libertarian state could exist in these times, a libertarian world order would collapse in a matter of months, the power structure is very imbalanced. You cannot reform the system without transforming the power structure.",,Anonymous,1522615568683.png,24LXKfHQIGJVCAVaI8mIXQ==,,,1522859793 166740637,166750391,2018-04-04 16:38:15,">>166750036 I am a massive fan of Hume's problem of induction. That was his greatest contribution to philosophy, and I revel in how utterly damning it is to a bunch of philosophies that I can't stand (naturalism, materialism, physicalism).",,Praceteom,,,,,1522859895 166740637,166751605,2018-04-04 16:49:15,">>166750206 Assuming your premise of being less safe without a state - which isn't borne out in reality - were true for the sake of argument, I'd rather be less safe from outside enemies than have SANCTIONED and SUPPORTED inside enemies who abuse people without the populace even realizing they're being abused. The invaders can be rallied against. State goons are nigh-worshipped in places like the U.S. (e.g. thank you for your service xD).",,Praceteom,,,,,1522860555 166740637,166753329,2018-04-04 17:04:39,">>166750206 What do you suggest?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522861479 166740637,166753508,2018-04-04 17:06:17,">>166749356 I'd like to senpai, but I don't yet have a single, poignant reason to give. I might when I have read up more on the scholastic theory of natural law (or, when I still don't have a very good explanation after that, I will probably throw this opinion of mine out). So far, what I got is this: Stealing to save the life of yourself or of another, when you are willing to pay the damage back, when you show yourself grateful, and when you have not yourself caused the situation you are in, affirms the sanctity of human life, and human life is a higher good than the material goods we can own, as we have been made in Gods image, and as material goods are only valuable because they serve us. That's not a watertight case, but I know that most ancaps would not condemn a poor man who stole a loaf of bread, so it's not my most urgent priority to improve on it. What's more interesting is why this reasoning doesn't have the welfare state as its logical consequence. For one, by having a welfare state, we do not ensure the mere subsistence of the poor. It also isn't an effective means to ensure their subsistence, even if we limited it to that function (capital growth is far more effective). Then there are its degenerating effects on society, like creating a class of lazy parasites and punishing industriousness.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522861577 166740637,166754458,2018-04-04 17:14:59,">>166750206 >A libertarian society is not safe from outside influences. The Nazis were created by outside influences. National socialism was a Czech ideology, the Führerkult was heavily inspired by the Italian Fascists, eugenics was invented and brought to Germany by Anglos, and scientific racialism was first really expressed by Gobineau, a Frenchman. >>166750391 What's bizarre about things like the is-ought-problem and the problem of induction is that they apply with full force only to philosophers that forgot the Greeks and their metaphysics, and one of the prime philosophers in this tradition of ignorance is Hume itself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522862099 166740637,166754557,2018-04-04 17:15:46,">>166751605 >Assuming your premise of being less safe without a state - which isn't borne out in reality - were true for the sake of argument, I'd rather be less safe from outside enemies than have SANCTIONED and SUPPORTED inside enemies who abuse people without the populace even realizing they're being abused. This, too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522862146 166740637,166754951,2018-04-04 17:19:35,">>166754458 >is that they apply with full force only to philosophers that forgot the Greeks and their metaphysics By ""Greeks and their metaphysics"" you're only talking about Plato. Aristotle is obliterated by the problem of induction, and so are all empiricists ever who don't have commitment to an idea of a ""higher"" or otherwise untouchable ""real-reality"" (which is most scientism-worshipers).",,Praceteom,,,,,1522862375 166740637,166755010,2018-04-04 17:20:12,">>166743788 nice",,Anonymous,1494743829565.jpg,mrtkhNJPHONtkrmqfj3itA==,US,,1522862412 166740637,166755291,2018-04-04 17:22:47,">>166740637 I can demolish ancap thought. Wanna go and see where the socratic reasoning will take you?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522862567 166740637,166755436,2018-04-04 17:24:02,>>166755291,,Anonymous,curious.jpg,mxY65iwVz00ANz8QVHnakw==,GB,,1522862642 166740637,166755728,2018-04-04 17:26:34,">>166755436 Okay lets start. Why do you support anarcho capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522862794 166740637,166755868,2018-04-04 17:27:48,">>166740637 I really want a natcap flag already It legitimately represents me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522862868 166740637,166755949,2018-04-04 17:28:43,">>166754458 One thing I should add, the Nazis also didn't deliver on their promise to keep Germany safe from the outside world. They didn't usher in an era of unprecedenced cultural growth or the preservation of age old traditions. They themselves were huge reformers in every possible way. >>166754951 >Aristotle is obliterated by the problem of induction He isn't. Humean philosophers are, because they have given up on the idea of proportionate causality. To Hume, it was a mystery that fire burns things and doesn't freeze them. That it always burns things when you test what it does is a freak accident to Hume, but not to Aristotle and the philosophers in his tradition, who accept the principle of proportionate causality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522862923 166740637,166756024,2018-04-04 17:29:17,">>166755291 That was a pretentious thing to say.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522862957 166740637,166756312,2018-04-04 17:31:54,Bumping with muh automation.,,Anonymous,Automation - Hazlitt.png,aYukyR63EaHSQxMTrQpigA==,,,1522863114 166740637,166756384,2018-04-04 17:32:37,,,Anonymous,US Civil War - Explained.png,XUviSc0CxmbM5RGu3F3ZRA==,,,1522863157 166740637,166756411,2018-04-04 17:32:54,,,Anonymous,death to the peacemaker.gif,kCIG+JJ5WrBRiiJuhtcKSQ==,,,1522863174 166740637,166756757,2018-04-04 17:36:04,">>166755728 Because the idea that any small cliche (A) has the right to or (B) can effectively rule over millions, even billions in some cases, is simply absurd. There's plenty of arguments to support this hypothesis, that this system of governance and lawmaking is hideously inefficient, leads to mass injustices... who on earth thinks a society would all decide to submit to a central government and lose all control over their life to increasingly petty laws and regulations, if they had not already convinced it was the right thing to do by a broken status quo?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522863364 166740637,166756887,2018-04-04 17:37:17,">>166755949 Humean empiricism is not the only victim of Hume's poi. Aristotle's understanding of induction is quasi-revelatory - nature hits the enquiring mind with a ""eureka"" moment. But Aristotelian empiricism still makes past-future inferences whose justification the problem still repudiates.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522863437 166740637,166757057,2018-04-04 17:38:47,,,Anonymous,communist crimes.jpg,au4a9adE09jC+mK7s8Iqmg==,,,1522863527 166740637,166757197,2018-04-04 17:40:05,">>166749294 Pinochet would be tolerated but not promoted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522863605 166740637,166757337,2018-04-04 17:41:29,">>166756757 So are you trying to maximize freedom, or trying to maximize utilitarian good?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522863689 166740637,166757497,2018-04-04 17:42:48,">>166750206 The Ultra-Capitalist State ie Hardcore Minarchism could exist, but the Ann-caps, normal minarchists and limited-government libertarians would have to agree that the government would have to be a very small, but powerful one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522863768 166740637,166757602,2018-04-04 17:43:49,">>166757337 Both to a degree, working under the assumption freedom is a good.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522863829 166740637,166757825,2018-04-04 17:45:46,">>166745012 Fuck, just noticed that this is shooped. The proportions of the lettering on both signs is exact. Why not just change it slightly, so it's not obvious?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522863946 166740637,166757857,2018-04-04 17:46:00,">>166757602 Okay, so you support utilitarian views, and think that freedom is inherently utilitarian. But what about cases where freedom is objectively bad in the utilitarian sense?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522863960 166740637,166757994,2018-04-04 17:47:18,">>166745012 And the missing part of the C is pretty bad, of course. I wonder what they were actually burning.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522864038 166740637,166758051,2018-04-04 17:47:52,,,Anonymous,Hoppe high impact physical removal.jpg,caODaKu7V554Eud0DBMGOw==,US,,1522864072 166740637,166758064,2018-04-04 17:47:55,">>166757857 It’d be a combo of NAP and Categorical imperative. If it violates at least one or both, the law is unjustice",,Anonymous,,,,,1522864075 166740637,166758139,2018-04-04 17:48:30,">>166757857 There is no such thing as an objective bad.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522864110 166740637,166758251,2018-04-04 17:49:34,,,Anonymous,glitch_art_20180206174010.jpg,uYTeJu9EFBwfzrBlxtUo5g==,US,,1522864174 166740637,166758291,2018-04-04 17:49:53,">>166756887 > But Aristotelian empiricism still makes past-future inferences Yes, based on an understanding of causality that avoids the problem of induction. If something causes burns, the Aristotelian assumes that that's because of some quality of the thing in question. He will assume that even if he only observes this effect once, because of the principle of proportionate cause. Do away with that principle, and you're implicitly doing away with causality, which is what Hume did.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522864193 166740637,166758320,2018-04-04 17:50:12,">>166757994 Anarchy, State, and Utopia by Nozick is the framework on what an ultra-capitalist utopia would look like and how to get there",,Anonymous,,,,,1522864212 166740637,166758343,2018-04-04 17:50:23,">>166757337 Not that guy, but the moral imperative I'm committed to is to obey God. And that just so happens to condemn any and all violence amongst men, which means voluntarism is the political philosophy I MUST hold.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522864223 166740637,166758397,2018-04-04 17:50:50,Reporting in,,TPM,1513022900079.jpg,4CnfDZfWys52B1mbpraKxA==,US,,1522864250 166740637,166758504,2018-04-04 17:51:47,">>166758139 So do you believe in utilitarianism, or not?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522864307 166740637,166758535,2018-04-04 17:51:58,">>166758139 Something is either objective or bad.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522864318 166740637,166758621,2018-04-04 17:52:37,">>166758504 You can’t be utilitarian and be a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522864357 166740637,166759003,2018-04-04 17:56:22,">>166758291 >He will assume that even if he only observes this effect once Everyone rejects this, because a single observation is often completely unreliable. When you're presented with an entirely new object, reason does not suffice to determine it's causes or effects from its sensible qualities.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522864582 166740637,166759100,2018-04-04 17:57:07,">>166758504 I don't believe we should try and engineer a system that ""maximises utility"", but I believe it is in people's interest to live under a system that maximises their subjective valuation.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522864627 166740637,166759265,2018-04-04 17:58:41,">>166759100 Okay, so you support maximizing the freedom each individual has?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522864721 166740637,166760053,2018-04-04 18:05:26,">>166759265 No, I support maximising the economic wellbeing and the freedom of myself and the people I care about (which happens to be the general populus, to an extent). Economic and physical wellbeing is heavy linked with freedom, in my opinion. I admit I may be inconsistent here because of previously held views about self-ownership and freedom which were much more deontological, in nature; but one can certainly make the more practical argument that self ownership is desirable for pretty much everyone who isn't going to be ruling over others.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522865126 166740637,166760240,2018-04-04 18:07:00,"Should right-libertarianism be considered reactionary, seeing as how we're interested in restoring the natural order?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522865220 166740637,166760396,2018-04-04 18:08:21,">>166760053 But so I need to know, do you prioritize freedom or wellbeing?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522865301 166740637,166760616,2018-04-04 18:10:12,">>166760240 I don't think supporting freedom has anything at all to do with past states of affairs. It has to do with seeing an ideal instantiated.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522865412 166740637,166760680,2018-04-04 18:10:43,">>166740637 LOL YOU LOLBERTARDIAN",,Anonymous,,,,,1522865443 166740637,166761317,2018-04-04 18:15:55,"My dear friends I may interject, i've come to be tossing around a idea; and idea about moving forward into the next age, as our economy suffers from inflation and from the over regulation of industry that stripped jobs from the rust belt and created the ghettos' we all know today, this was caused by an outdated and questionably malicious homosexual monetary system that we need to once and for all get rid of, i am of course talking of the irs, and the many polar voices payed for by one or many special interests in our congress, house and in almost every branch and arm of the gov. It was necessary once to write against the king and his tyrannical polices, but today we suffer from our elected officials using the government as nothing more than a way to get rich quick and enjoy status and life time control and power. It is necessary now to become aware of the nature of our oppressors for it is not one face but many, and many more hidden faces doing the dirty work itself. They have, with outright malicious intent furthered the cause set forth by the international bankers, guilty of enslaving and restricting the people with regulation and taxation in order to create a society of monopoly and materialism. For any patriot it is time to come to the solution at expense of livelihood and freedom; Stop paying taxes! so not file for income tax and do no not give a dime if they come knocking. Fracture the two parties! Start new parties in your area and run in local elections, seize power and limit the federal government's power upon the municipalities and states. Finally, Take arms and rally other patriots to your parties, clubs, and causes; organize protests and take to the streets in strength of numbers and arms!",,TPM,,,US,,1522865755 166740637,166762505,2018-04-04 18:25:40,">>166740637 get out lolbertaritans",,Anonymous,1520636815845.png,ZR7Llv/DsFZu3BXWAOyZow==,GB,,1522866340 166740637,166762869,2018-04-04 18:28:38,">>166762505 Stop playing video games.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522866518 166740637,166763126,2018-04-04 18:30:53,">>166762869 Who said I play video games?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522866653 166740637,166763209,2018-04-04 18:31:43,">Disgussion Dobig: Ar u ever dembded by oder bolidigal ideologis- whad geebs u liberdarian? Dhis is a dhread for dhe disgussion of all ideologies dhat bromode self-ownershib, bolundary associadion, self-gobernange, indibidual liberdy EBIN! an dhe nadural order. Dhis mean brimarily anargho-gabidalisds, minarghists, nadional gabidalisds and sum monarghisds. Odhers ar welgome do debade us. DHREAD RESOURCES: >BasdEBIN!: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Disgord(Dhodally nod a honeybod) & Boog Glub: fnmp99D REGOMMENDED READIN: >Dhe Low (Fredrig BASEDiad) - misses.org/liverary/low >Anadomy ov dhe Sdade (Murai Rodhghild) - misses.org/liverary/anadomy-sdade >Vor a Niu Liberdy (Murai Rodhghild) - misses.org/liverary/old-liberdy-liberdarian-manifesdo(Dhodally nod as usles as de gommunisd on) >Demogracy: Dhe Dog dhat Faild (Hans German-Hobbe) - riosmauricio.gom/wp-gondend/ubloads/2013/04/Hobbe_Demogracy_Dhe_Dog_Dhat_Fail.pdf(bud nod fail as much as angap. I hope) FURDHER READIN: >Referens - Se i.imgur.gom/wCIAgna.jpg >Dorrend - magned:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f1eb1n6000000j00s7574e5d616&dn=Anargho-Gabidalism%20Boogs DHREAD DUNES: >Hobbewave blaylisd - jewtube.gom/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU [Embed] >I need a Binoched! - jewtube.gom/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drob id lige id's Hobbe - jewtube.gom/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGOY [Embed]",,Anonymous,liberdarianism general.png,QOf9Wk7XAHbFNVGFC8oRZA==,AR,,1522866703 166740637,166763929,2018-04-04 18:38:45,"I only wish that true individual liberty had representation in the American political sphere. I am of the belief that a return to the ideals on which the US was founded is the only way to preserve the nation, but to do so requires organization and numbers which do not exist. The libertarian party is a cruel, disgusting joke and there are no true organizations to support such a movement. On the contrary, authoritarian ideologies are far more attractive because they are easy to rally behind, and so almost all American support rallies behind a strong leader or gobernment as opposed to the individuals and their responsibilities to maintain the ideals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522867125 166740637,166764170,2018-04-04 18:40:57,">>166763929 EBIN! me doo",,Anonymous,1522297131060.jpg,VUf+ThMjpVxFA3S1rXFQAQ==,AR,,1522867257 166740637,166764298,2018-04-04 18:42:07,">>166763929 Freedom isn't political. Politics are the antithesis of freedom - acting as if facets of other people's lives or behaviors regarding their body and property are subject to a political process is necessarily anti-liberty.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522867327 166740637,166764370,2018-04-04 18:42:44,,,Anonymous,1522698373063.png,ZfqiZFueqWNJAmwT9gY1ow==,AR,,1522867364 166740637,166764469,2018-04-04 18:43:36,,,Anonymous,1521341211691.jpg,nRe3uq9sOcqKL52jiEMEIw==,AR,,1522867416 166740637,166764508,2018-04-04 18:43:55,,,Anonymous,1522287880240.jpg,Z2TgmuMCSYSGQgR9dx3sxg==,AR,,1522867435 166740637,166764524,2018-04-04 18:44:04,">>166747226 Well, I’m ancap at heart but I think right wing/ alt-right has a better shot of achieving basically the same thing. The ethnostate is wayyy more likely to swap into ancapland than the brown multicultural 56% future",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522867444 166740637,166764625,2018-04-04 18:44:59,>>166764524,,Anonymous,1520795786003.jpg,SA7+N95rI8z4tqybA/iBZA==,AR,,1522867499 166740637,166764869,2018-04-04 18:47:07,">>166764524 You're thinking in the wrong terms. Rather than try to convert hundreds of millions of people, stop being in the same political union with people you disagree with. They don't want you to make political decisions for you, and you don't want them to make political decisions for you, so support secessionism.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522867627 166740637,166764932,2018-04-04 18:47:42,>>166764869,,Anonymous,1519327258961.jpg,gMurJI62xkflrYKJ4nRcXQ==,AR,,1522867662 166740637,166764972,2018-04-04 18:48:01,">>166764298 Politics are required to determine the minimalist policy which is necessary to the functioning of a society, at it's most basic form. Judicial systems and police to protect the fundamental rights of those unable to defend themselves. In the modern America it is required to ever attempt to make the transition to a minarchist state, a cohesive front for the desires of people with a desire for liberty, otherwise you have no chance of breaking the proverbial chains.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522867681 166740637,166765291,2018-04-04 18:51:07,">>166764972 Defense and arbitration aren't necessarily political, and in a free society they're not. I'll repeat this for you - we don't need to convert hundreds of millions of people. We need to separate ourselves from them, which people are doing more and more with the sea-steading and other free society projects.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522867867 166740637,166765296,2018-04-04 18:51:09,">>166764972 stupid ancaps",,Anonymous,1520797959200.png,3w42zVrl4SEOWBnJ8/pxWg==,AR,,1522867869 166740637,166765951,2018-04-04 18:56:56,">>166740637 Bump",,Anonymous,1518628824345.png,rSH7J3vX6aHaVB7XmW52uA==,US,,1522868216 166740637,166766010,2018-04-04 18:57:30,">>166765291 I'm not entirely familiar with sea-steading or free society projects, but I will look into them. I see your point though, however unfortunate. It would still be nice to see the US embrace the ideals upon which it was founded, but I suppose you are correct.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522868250 166740637,166766258,2018-04-04 18:59:56,">>166766010 I don't think there's anything unfortunate about it - I don't want to live with rubes who thank cops ""for their service"" when they're getting ticketed for having a headlight out. I want nothing whatsoever to do with people like that.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522868396 166740637,166766504,2018-04-04 19:02:12,,,Anonymous,Murray vs Some Kid.jpg,Fo5wANDk15orTAsN2YnWow==,US,,1522868532 166740637,166766562,2018-04-04 19:02:36,"We should start putting this video in the copytext https://youtu.be/8kTkMS5SxhU",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522868556 166740637,166766728,2018-04-04 19:04:21,"Got into ancap a year or two ago. Talk about it with my friends and shit, none of them get it (I'm just shit at debate and most of them are self proclaimed fascists anyway). I currently taking economics 101 and shits fucked. "" we couldn't get out of a recession without the gubberment"" all Keynesian crap. Problem is I'm shit at debate and can never come up with ways an ancap economy would recover from a recession. Inflation is basically impossible when you don't have a government devaluing your currency or work off a barter system so that's out of the question, but a recession? Maybe the solution is the same that a recession wouldn't happen in an ancap society but I don't know.",,Anonymous,IMG_4919.jpg,Ngb+Hd7E7i2gWN0x2nnWZA==,US,,1522868661 166740637,166766986,2018-04-04 19:06:41,have some OC,,Anonymous,pepe_changemymind_pinochet2.jpg,u21LQXAbKzI/39x/nvYycA==,CA,,1522868801 166740637,166767025,2018-04-04 19:06:59,more,,Anonymous,pepe_changemymind_pinochet.jpg,SQiSmonXy5RookNCpU50pw==,CA,,1522868819 166740637,166767096,2018-04-04 19:07:43,">>166766504 >When you go from ancap to ancom in three paragraphs Sir that means of production is unjust property.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522868863 166740637,166767236,2018-04-04 19:09:06,why?,,Anonymous,antifa_pinochet_bane.jpg,nzf8RHCqsS5pdZTgSNExIw==,CA,,1522868946 166740637,166767266,2018-04-04 19:09:32,">>166766258 Fair enough, perhaps a better way to phrase that is that it is unfortunate that the great American experiment in individual liberty has well and truly failed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522868972 166740637,166767368,2018-04-04 19:10:41,">>166767236 The concept of unjust property effectively abolishes capital.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1522869041 166740637,166767434,2018-04-04 19:11:29,">>166766562 Legend",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522869089 166740637,166767477,2018-04-04 19:11:57,">>166767266 It was absolutely doomed from the outset. The commerce and general welfare clauses were put in there intentionally to expand state power - and lo and behold that's exactly what they've continuously accomplished.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522869117 166740637,166767843,2018-04-04 19:15:08,">>166764469 Sheeeeeeeeeeeiiit - my half breed son",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522869308 166740637,166767937,2018-04-04 19:16:11,"Things we need to start doing: 1. Stop trying to convert everyone to individualism. Humans will always be 99% collectivist, nothing is going to change that. 2. Appeal to collectivists by persuading them that their group interests will be served through individualist economic policy. This will mainly apply to right wing collectivists because the left thrives on egalitarian policy like affirmative action 3. Expel egalitarian ""bake the cake"" fake libertarians from our movement. 4. On /pol/, stop shitting on natsocs. Like mentioned earlier, we would benefit from convincing them that libertarian policy would serve their interest (ie. Allowing discrimination). This is where we fall in the realm of ""uniting the right""",,Anonymous,1502136722012.jpg,7+KxGMt05B0mILoTRcugeA==,US,,1522869371 166740637,166768445,2018-04-04 19:20:51,">>166767096 Wrong",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522869651 166740637,166768573,2018-04-04 19:22:06,Remember when David Friedman visited one of threads fake libertarian threads? Did you people stop listing Machinery of Freedom in your reading list because you got BTFO?,,Anonymous,hoppeans BTFO.png,pu7Qa0h8gg+dWZolyuF4zQ==,,,1522869726 166740637,166768586,2018-04-04 19:22:18,">>166767937 No, the real strategy is to just stop engaging with people in a political context and push secessionism. ""Oh you wanna be a commie? Great. Do that. I'm over here - I won't be doing that.""",,Praceteom,,,,,1522869738 166740637,166768876,2018-04-04 19:25:00,">>166768573 Well, this is the libertarian RIGHT",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522869900 166740637,166769101,2018-04-04 19:27:06,">>166767937 You will never convert the dumb Nazi's on this board to adopt libertarian policy. Look at how the right-wing retards on this board love tariffs so much even though there's overwhelming consensus among economists, both neoclassical and Austrian, that free trade improves the overall welfare of the countries that participate in it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522870026 166740637,166769280,2018-04-04 19:28:35,">>166740637 Im tempted by national socialism because it seems like Nazi Germany was extremely prosperous and it's also anti Jew, but I live in a country without a real identity to speak of, and I also don't necessarily mind having people of other races around. I think Austrian Economics solve the problem of filtering out degenerates because without welfare they would essentially starve or be shot by militant property owners.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522870115 166740637,166769550,2018-04-04 19:31:00,">>166768573 I like David a lot. I don't think his focus on pragmatism is particularly inspiring though. I think people are incredibly deaf to the actual economic arguments, and think it's better to press the moral side. Either way only certain types of people can be swayed toward libertarianism in the first place, and I think I prefer the company of people who have spirited moral objections against non-libertarian systems than I do to those who are merely persuaded that their conditions will simply be more comfortable in a free society.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522870260 166740637,166769646,2018-04-04 19:31:55,">>166769101 But think of what we have in common: Nazis would cream their pants if they could discriminate against whoever they wanted and didn't have to give welfare to niggers. Furthermore, the jewish bankers feed off of state intervention to stay afloat and cause recessions (look at Andrew Jackson vs the Bank of the United States(now called the federal reserve)). That's what I'm talking about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522870315 166740637,166769695,2018-04-04 19:32:21,">>166769280 You right-wingers are batshit insane. You people claim to love Rothbard but proportionality has always been a principle in Rothbard's theory of justice.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522870341 166740637,166770700,2018-04-04 19:41:24,">>166769695 I don't have to agree with everything the guy says do I? Also, attempt to understand an ideology before you call it batshit insane. Natsoc has a lot of merit to it and the sentiment is understandable, it's just that I don't personally feel the sentiment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522870884 166740637,166771096,2018-04-04 19:45:11,">>166769695 People like >>166769280 are why I have this opinion >>166769550 about the real utility of trying to ""win over"" the average consequentialist rube.",,Praceteom,,,,,1522871111 167258664,167258664,2018-04-08 16:01:06,">Discussion Topic: federal government gay This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General - Cantwell Edition,Anonymous,cantwell half-assed siege.png,0MoUeL1LyGbeXZq6HBPkPA==,SK,,1523203266 167258664,167258906,2018-04-08 16:03:07,">b-but what do I read? preferably SIEGE, but since not all of us can handle being on government watch lists, see pic related",,Anonymous,ancap reading list short.png,6LEor8KJYYZXOiK9DknvLQ==,SK,,1523203387 167258664,167259090,2018-04-08 16:04:57,"My reading list from a few threads back, to whom it concerns.",,Anonymous,helicopter reading list.jpg,d4E6Yn1sntnNpVJxd4wIlQ==,,,1523203497 167258664,167259256,2018-04-08 16:06:26,">>167259090 I was about to start screeching at you before I noticed Democrussy, good job",,Anonymous,ancapball hoppe siege waco gif.gif,yp/eYgVZHdUhRie38pxFww==,SK,,1523203586 167258664,167259401,2018-04-08 16:07:32,">>167258906 I like this one. It's quite telling that after reading the entirety of Atlas Shrugged, I remained a statist for years, but I became an ancap a few months after reading For a New Liberty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523203652 167258664,167259709,2018-04-08 16:10:32,"You should absolutely listen to the first episode of the Bowlcast, featuring Christopher Cantbowl Topics included: >DAY OF THE RANCH >moderates are cucks >esoteric bowlcut dylann roofism >Charlottesville >how to handle getting seasoned with bear mace AND MUCH MORE! https://christophercantwell.com/2018/04/05/bowlcast-ep-1-cantwell-takes-the-bowl-pill/",,Anonymous,cantwell radio loicense.png,xuBb1gF1TFbTvDFXagV+UA==,SK,,1523203832 167258664,167259903,2018-04-08 16:12:19,"""The state is the ultimate nigger because it puts a gun to your head and acts like it dindu nuffin"" - me, circa one year ago",,Anonymous,cantwell milk.png,Bg6G5W0vPD41mjU0jxTINg==,SK,,1523203939 167258664,167260017,2018-04-08 16:13:12,deregulate assault cultery,,Anonymous,i_have_failed_you.png,qauR6PUn/4sRV0zrwy+WhA==,GB,,1523203992 167258664,167260035,2018-04-08 16:13:23,Reminder,,Anonymous,"Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, identifying the original sin of modern times.jpg",nImWrihQhGwc0//yFCoxCw==,,,1523204003 167258664,167260129,2018-04-08 16:14:12,Are y'all out in the country? Or new to the redpill? Or just don't care about the societal degeneration? I consider you allies of course but I don't see how right wing lad in 2018 could be anything but fascist what with all the homosexuality and drugs and degredation of the nuclear family. Just curious what y'all think of these issues,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523204052 167258664,167260152,2018-04-08 16:14:23,,,Anonymous,tyranny.jpg,E3jCm2jMK2eCCv8Iz69znQ==,US,,1523204063 167258664,167260227,2018-04-08 16:15:07,>>167260035,,Anonymous,Screenshot_20180405-225026_1.jpg,N8TmQI1J6FXb1TE6lBE8lA==,SK,,1523204107 167258664,167260843,2018-04-08 16:20:17,">>167260129 As a matter of fact, I am out in the country, and if you aren't, you're doing something wrong. The thing is, the state never fought against societal degeneracy - after all, it greatly benefits from it, as a society with no cohesion (along family, community, ethnic lines) experiences more conflict, both of property and of interest, and as such demands a more centralised system of law enforcement - a state, if things get bad enough. Since, I'd assume, you do not wish to live in a ""diverse"", multicultural hellhole, you'd do best to advocate for segregation, separation and secession - and when that's done, it should be maintained by strict adherence to natural law, only found within Austrian libertarianism and nowhere else, really. tl;dr - the state is gay, become who you wuz",,Anonymous,contra krugman bullying.png,hHYEFw7Gqj2QBLhqwpVTYw==,SK,,1523204417 167258664,167261079,2018-04-08 16:22:09,"Another reminder to the Neetsocs: >Eugenics was a British idea >Scientific racialism was inveted by Britbongs >The first Nazi-party was Czech >Hitler probably had a Jewish grandfather, as his mother was released from a Jewish household and received enormous gratuities, shortly after getting pregnant >Yes, they were socialists, in practice and in theory >Goebbels was a cripple, but you already knew that >Hitler fled Austria, which had a service term of three years, to fight for Bavaria, which had a term of only two years (pussy) >Hitler ruined any chance for a restoration of the Austrian monarchy Don't get me started on the religious stuff. If you're a good Christian, you cannot be a good Nazi, or at least not a good Hitlerite. Hitler patronized Rosenberg, who wanted to remove from the Christian faith: >The Pauline letters >All claims that St Peter was the head of the Church on earth >All claims that salvation is open to all mankind >The cross >Stories of Jesus' dying for our sins >Claims that any miraculous events happened Choose wisely. Don't choose Neetsocism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523204529 167258664,167261115,2018-04-08 16:22:30,">>167260227 Kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1523204550 167258664,167261861,2018-04-08 16:28:43,"Here's to the folks that say we don't have enough regulations in place. In the US, you have more than anyone could ever read through. It won't be very different in other western countries. There is no purely free market in place with that many regulations.",,Anonymous,law codes word count.jpg,iFZ1KapCyMYKN8JqK7d0Fw==,,,1523204923 167258664,167263182,2018-04-08 16:39:59,,,Anonymous,tree_of_liberty.png,nDQnAEKfvcs23XB8Dk8iOQ==,GB,,1523205599 167258664,167263372,2018-04-08 16:41:38,cantwell is a fed,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523205698 167258664,167265506,2018-04-08 16:59:04,">>167263372 shut up weev",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523206744 167258664,167265785,2018-04-08 17:01:25,"itt: Anglin and Weev attempt to lure anons fearing their own genocide into violent action, demonizing the entire white race, and ensuring white genocide accelerates",,Anonymous,siege meme.jpg,2JZ7LgpM9c/GEfkQor7hhg==,US,,1523206885 167258664,167266021,2018-04-08 17:03:26,">>167260843 >GoiM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207006 167258664,167266056,2018-04-08 17:03:51,">>167265785 >anglin and weev Both faggots honestly, the latter to a higher degree than the former. Siegefags aren't much better either, especially the ones whom'st are actually in AtomWaffles Esoteric Bowlcutism is where it's at.",,Anonymous,ff bowlcut.png,72H5X2IoNNWRxglBcHddmg==,SK,,1523207031 167258664,167266085,2018-04-08 17:04:08,">>167265785 Isn't it weird how they both kinda look Jewish?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207048 167258664,167266088,2018-04-08 17:04:10,">>167263372 most of the ecelebs are",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207050 167258664,167266181,2018-04-08 17:04:50,">>167266088 Jared Taylor is ok",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207090 167258664,167266223,2018-04-08 17:05:09,">>167266056 >Esoteric Bowlcutism lel >>167266085 just a cohencidence, goy",,Anonymous,weev 8.jpg,1bd9ZoNK4ZVRKufOouE0GQ==,US,,1523207109 167258664,167266252,2018-04-08 17:05:28,">>167266021 That's how you niggers should know that this is legit goy shit, none of that kosher-certified Mises Institute garbage.",,Anonymous,hippity hoppity confederate frog.png,S4XvufBWtODM5mv+Ld32AQ==,SK,,1523207128 167258664,167266336,2018-04-08 17:06:10,">>167266223 I knew weev was but Anglin looks a whole lot more like a heeb",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207170 167258664,167266433,2018-04-08 17:07:01,">>167266336 Yeah. Another kike on youtube did his ancestry and exposed him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyBD9opVGpk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207221 167258664,167266551,2018-04-08 17:07:55,">>167266088 Cantwell really has no option other than work with the feds, he's under constant surveillance and everything. If I had to guess, I'd go with Atomwaffen leadership being feds, but other than that no, I don't see anybody actually inciting violence, other than weev, but nobody takes that token feathernigger Jew seriously.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523207275 167258664,167266585,2018-04-08 17:08:07,">>167266223 Do you really think the kikes would let us know who the moles are?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523207287 167258664,167266641,2018-04-08 17:08:36,,,Anonymous,27x35w.jpg,unl+g3+TqBdWeLqlOBCYcA==,,,1523207316 167258664,167266660,2018-04-08 17:08:47,">>167266433 That makes sense really, he's kind of like a kid who had to go to church a lot who grew up to become a hard core goth atheist fedorafag How does all this nazi stuff turn out to be done by Jews?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207327 167258664,167266776,2018-04-08 17:09:46,">>167261861 This is such an idiotic argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207386 167258664,167266781,2018-04-08 17:09:51,">>167266433 Speaking of ancestry, weev should definitely swab his cheek. I'm not sure whether Anglin has done it, but if he hasn't, he should too. Worst case scenario, you end up like Morroco who found out that he's 1.5% actual nigger and 2% sandnigger.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523207391 167258664,167266844,2018-04-08 17:10:22,">>167266585 Or seeing as how they both roam around eastern Europe, Asia and Russia, there's more to the story than we know, wandering around the world ain't cheap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207422 167258664,167266967,2018-04-08 17:11:16,">>167266585 >(1) Of course. Anglin poses as an anti-Semitic Jew but in reality he's a pro-Israel Zionist. While the Jew who exposed him is openly a Zionist and believed that by exposing Anglin as a bad Jew he was helping Israel. Anglin's cover was too good and even fooled his own fellow Zionists. And now everyone knows Anglin, Weev, and the rest of the Neo-Nazi/Alt-Right leadership are either kikes themselves or Zionist traitors. So I wonder how long can figures like Cantwell continue supporting these deceptive losers.",,Anonymous,anglin israel tv.png,mHcbnRFXDRKoWxnRE7K/+g==,US,,1523207476 167258664,167266970,2018-04-08 17:11:17,">>167266776 There's absolutely no reason to have a tax code you can't read in an hour tops. There's also no reason to have taxes, unless you like paying for state-enforced homosexuality.",,Anonymous,hoppe tucker sam hyde.png,gT0BDu4z4GaRYm6/2ygmYQ==,SK,,1523207477 167258664,167267081,2018-04-08 17:12:09,">>167266660 Pic related. They're Zionists using anti-Semitism to create Zionism among the masses. Same story with TRS, Spencer, and the rest.",,Anonymous,Antisemitism-Redpill.png,a4JZmf5+7OSaFMoedAkc8A==,US,,1523207529 167258664,167267107,2018-04-08 17:12:20,Do people just ignore Cantwell got his ex to abort a white child and smoked meth during a live show?,,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1523207540 167258664,167267138,2018-04-08 17:12:37,">>167266781 True. If someone wants to lead the fight against Jews in any way they should provide DNA + family tree.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207557 167258664,167267223,2018-04-08 17:13:18,,,Anonymous,Screenshot-2018-4-5 Luke Ford - YouTube - YouTube.png,N5Zgipf9I0VjiOc7wewLQg==,ZA,,1523207598 167258664,167267332,2018-04-08 17:14:11,">>167258664 >>>>>believing in meme ideologies Collectivist Fascism will win. Fun fact: Lolbertarianism is actually founded by jews.",,Anonymous,war is my fatherland.png,3sQeaOB1HJ2kbxeWrmLsIQ==,,,1523207651 167258664,167267496,2018-04-08 17:15:26,">>167267107 >got his ex to abort BLATANTLY FALSE https://christophercantwell.com/2017/03/04/a-warning-to-kricket-sliks-next-boyfriend/ Maybe you should quit going around spreading lies there, EFF scum.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523207726 167258664,167267586,2018-04-08 17:16:20,">>167258664 Quick question : why the fuck are lolbertarians siege fags???! It really doesn't make sense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523207780 167258664,167267615,2018-04-08 17:16:35,">>167267332 Come back to me when you manage to last more than 12 years, faggot. And don't give me any of that ""transcendental movement"" crap either. You're a phony with no real value.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523207795 167258664,167267645,2018-04-08 17:16:52,">>167267332 >not knowing the Zionist bankers in NYC funded the Nazis Fascism is a Jewish invention too buddy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207812 167258664,167267673,2018-04-08 17:17:04,">>167261079 >Eugenics was a British idea >Scientific racialism was inveted by Britbongs >The first Nazi-party was Czech >Hitler probably had a Jewish grandfather, as his mother was released from a Jewish household and received enormous gratuities, shortly after getting pregnant >Yes, they were socialists, in practice and in theory >Goebbels was a cripple, but you already knew that >Hitler fled Austria, which had a service term of three years, to fight for Bavaria, which had a term of only two years (pussy) >Hitler ruined any chance for a restoration of the Austrian monarchy everything stated here is either false, cherrypicked, irrelevant or all three together meanwhile all of your philosophers and theorists were jews",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523207824 167258664,167267756,2018-04-08 17:17:43,">>167267586 Freedom isn't going to win itself.",,Anonymous,lrg refresh the tree of liberty.png,efKiEmenD4v9rgs2OukcGg==,SK,,1523207863 167258664,167267815,2018-04-08 17:18:13,">>167267615 Tell me how your meme ideology will actually work? You're just a bunch of cucks that will do anything about muh individual, a libertarian state is doomed to fail.",,Anonymous,sieg heil2.jpg,iXj1KfF3H6z6ip4fUUXA5g==,,,1523207893 167258664,167267897,2018-04-08 17:18:55,">>167267815 How is national socialism not a meme ideology they barely lasted 2 decades",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523207935 167258664,167267909,2018-04-08 17:18:59,">>167267756 Siege is literally larpy national socialism...? Make your shit up mate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523207939 167258664,167268006,2018-04-08 17:19:42,">>167267897 Your ideology was never even applied, no guarantee it will work.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523207982 167258664,167268094,2018-04-08 17:20:27,">>167267673 Blatantly false, Hoppe, Hayek, Bastiat, all of the American founding fathers, Woods, Murphy, Hazlitt, Lew Rockwell and Janusz Korwin-Mikke are goyish. I bet you count the Friedmans and Ayn Rand as libertarians, lmao.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208027 167258664,167268116,2018-04-08 17:20:41,">>167268006 >my ideology Show me where i said what my ideology was faggot memeflagger",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523208041 167258664,167268147,2018-04-08 17:20:57,">>167267815 >state Other than that, you sound like a redcoat.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208057 167258664,167268172,2018-04-08 17:21:15,">>167267897 >what is ww2",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523208075 167258664,167268236,2018-04-08 17:21:42,">>167267909 The only guy who followed through on SIEGE ideals was Timothy McVeigh, a libertarian.",,Anonymous,timmy hate.png,a66PSsNV6lMTes72odnuyg==,SK,,1523208102 167258664,167268259,2018-04-08 17:21:52,">>167268172 >can't survive the only war they fought",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523208112 167258664,167268347,2018-04-08 17:22:28,">>167268094 rothbard whom you all jack off to, mikke is a retard and the founding fathers barely if not even libertarian",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523208148 167258664,167268414,2018-04-08 17:23:04,">>167268147 >state C'mon nigger even commies are gonna fuck up your meme heaven, you literally have no organisation except protecting muh liberty n shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523208184 167258664,167268429,2018-04-08 17:23:11,">>167268259 >cant survive a zerg rush >must be their fault wew",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523208191 167258664,167268460,2018-04-08 17:23:26,">>167268172 American libertarianism defended itself from the mightiest empire of the world and only died in 1861 when the federal government acted against the Southern secession. That's at least six times as long as NatSoc.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208206 167258664,167268546,2018-04-08 17:24:06,">>167268429 >WE WUZ HITLER N SHEEEITT",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523208246 167258664,167268589,2018-04-08 17:24:31,">>167268546 >WE WUZ DEM FOUNDING KEKERS N SHIT",,Anonymous,,,,,1523208271 167258664,167268611,2018-04-08 17:24:39,">>167268347 So you've managed to name one, then proceeded to insult the greatest of Europe's sons alive and denied that the guys who went to war for liberty's sake were libertarians. Do go on, please.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208279 167258664,167268707,2018-04-08 17:25:26,">>167268414 The commies only managed to fuck YOU up, though. Thanks for letting half of Europe fall to communism, I'm sure they appreciate you for it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208326 167258664,167268786,2018-04-08 17:26:00,">>167268460 >mightiest empire that was busy fighting other wars and keeping control of other colonies, without the french the americans would have lost >>167268546 >we wuz X opinion discarded",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523208360 167258664,167268909,2018-04-08 17:26:54,">>167267496 I'm not EFF faggot. I just read all of that and it didn't help, he may not have forced it but in his own words his behaviour and lack of discernment certainly precipitated a bad situation. He also, smoked meth live in front of his audience.",,Anonymous,Screenshot-2018-4-5 Luke Ford - YouTube - YouTube(1).png,Uy5/JmA9pjKOK++IvJ4I1A==,ZA,,1523208414 167258664,167269031,2018-04-08 17:27:34,">>167268707 Yeah im sure europe will be much better without Hitler, yeah duuude like dem commies would have failed. Dumb nigger the third Reich stopped commies,lets see what you will do when commies invade, probably jerk off to guns .",,Anonymous,,,,,1523208454 167258664,167269057,2018-04-08 17:27:47,">>167268786 Fighting what wars, exactly? The Indian Wars had concluded by then and so had the Seven Years' War. If anything, that would have meant the redcoats would have hardened veterans at their disposal.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208467 167258664,167269081,2018-04-08 17:27:58,">>167268611 >the greatest absolutely not every philosopher predating them has contributed infinitely more than they have",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523208478 167258664,167269184,2018-04-08 17:28:43,">>167269057 >they would be hardened veterans thats not how it worked",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523208523 167258664,167269218,2018-04-08 17:28:58,">>167268909 No, it was obviously the fault of the manipulative psychotic bitch, but do go on, nigger.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208538 167258664,167269259,2018-04-08 17:29:18,">>167259903 >Who maced you? >ACH. COMMUNISTS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523208558 167258664,167269391,2018-04-08 17:30:18,">>167269031 The communists never invaded American soil precisely because they would have gotten a rifle rammed so far up their ass the barrel would have come out of their mouth. Hitler didn't stop the communists, Piłsudski did and so did the Freikorps, which Hitler was not part of.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208618 167258664,167269497,2018-04-08 17:31:05,">>167269081 I was talking about Janusz Korwin-Mikke. Name one European alive who's better than him.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208665 167258664,167269550,2018-04-08 17:31:26,">>167260843 I have family in Slovakia that lives out in the country too. What are are you in?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523208686 167258664,167269596,2018-04-08 17:31:49,">>167269550 *area",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523208709 167258664,167269620,2018-04-08 17:31:56,">>167269031 >Third reich stopped commies. KEK. They stopped them so hard, that half of Germany (half of fucking Europe) was communist. Great desu. Bravo.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208716 167258664,167269653,2018-04-08 17:32:14,">>167269550 The only good area.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208734 167258664,167269721,2018-04-08 17:32:52,">>167269391 They didn't invade the usa because it's in a different fucking continent, commies had different problems at the time, Hitler didn't manage to win WW2 since the americans supported the USSR shit stain, plus they already had the numerical advantage not given the fact that they WERE THE BIGGEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523208772 167258664,167269767,2018-04-08 17:33:17,">>167269620 well better than enitre europe nigger",,Anonymous,,,,,1523208797 167258664,167269777,2018-04-08 17:33:21,">>167269620 thats not an argument, do you think that the soviets had the drive to push on after struggling and suffering so many casualties from the axis, they could have never won against western allies",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523208801 167258664,167269825,2018-04-08 17:33:47,">>167266336 Anglin has negroid features, I wouldn't be surprised if he was 20% or something",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523208827 167258664,167269994,2018-04-08 17:35:03,">>167269721 Then why did you rush head-first into a losing battle?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523208903 167258664,167270028,2018-04-08 17:35:16,">>167269218 Don't be a dindu or excuse his behaviour >She was molested by a family member and raped several times as an adolescent/young adult. I know this is usually a very bad sign in a relationship, but she told me that she had listened to every episode of FreedomainRadio and had met Stefan Molyneux and donated thousands of dollars to him for helping her through her trauma. He got involved with a fucknuts woman then had an admittedly stormy relationship, he exercised bad judgement, and tried to play abortion chicken with a fucking lunatic > I knew she was using this threat to screw with me, so I told her that she should have the abortion and then get her tubes tied before she did this to somebody else. He brought about a bad situation by involving a life in that kind of craziness. Don't be a fucking dindu",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1523208916 167258664,167270046,2018-04-08 17:35:25,">>167269994 Saving europe???",,Anonymous,,,,,1523208925 167258664,167270070,2018-04-08 17:35:38,">>167267223 Who dis?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523208938 167258664,167270092,2018-04-08 17:35:50,"Alt-Right is Jewish cancer. Siege is Jewish cancer. NatSoc as a philosophy is correct but in application, due to modern context, falls short. Anti-Semitism is a Jewish trick to grow Zionism holding Israel and the diaspora accountable for International cimes isn't ""racist."" All movements are subverted, all leaders are compromised. Solution: >get /fit/ >educate yourself >acquire useful skills >promote Revolution by re-education >Majority forces reformation >??? >Jews lose!",,Anonymous,hitler smiling.jpg,a6rocDtF9WbDCLzN22no0Q==,US,,1523208950 167258664,167270181,2018-04-08 17:36:31,">>167269994 >what is a preemptive strike",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523208991 167258664,167270244,2018-04-08 17:37:11,">>167270092 i can agree with this, a political solution is unlikely",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523209031 167258664,167270258,2018-04-08 17:37:17,">>167270028 It seems that you're putting the blame on the wrong person, to be honest.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209037 167258664,167270271,2018-04-08 17:37:20,">>167269994 i mean how the fuck are you going to enforce your laws if there's no police state or government?!?!",,Anonymous,,,,,1523209040 167258664,167270376,2018-04-08 17:38:14,">>167270046 How exactly do you save Europe by losing? You're better than the commies, for fuck's sake, but not according to might makes right ""morality"".",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209094 167258664,167270392,2018-04-08 17:38:23,">>167260035 without christianity there would have been no french revolution",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1523209103 167258664,167270409,2018-04-08 17:38:30,">>167270244 let's get to work then",,Anonymous,thumbs up.jpg,Mwy7z4FGZ4rR9HJ22Ege8g==,US,,1523209110 167258664,167270418,2018-04-08 17:38:37,">>167270376 NOT LETTING ENTIRE EUROPE GETTING ENSLAVED BY COMMIES?!?!?!??!",,Anonymous,,,,,1523209117 167258664,167270424,2018-04-08 17:38:37,">>167269391 Communists never needed to invade, subversion was much more effective",,Anonymous,1503899465555.png,qNy3gfldGOykwRhj1PtNXQ==,US,,1523209117 167258664,167270540,2018-04-08 17:39:29,">>167258664 Cantwell is in no way associated with the term Libertarian in any sense anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523209169 167258664,167270596,2018-04-08 17:39:53,">>167270271 By killing the criminals myself, or hiring someone to do it, or voluntarily incorporating my property into a covenant community with mutual defence.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209193 167258664,167270670,2018-04-08 17:40:25,">>167270092 >antisemitism is a Jewish trick goy, pay no attention to the globalist kikes destroying our nations",,Anonymous,1490318490453.gif,aa17YSAWZGB+3K5U7bF3fw==,US,,1523209225 167258664,167270694,2018-04-08 17:40:31,">>167270258 It seems like you're absolving a man who impregnated a woman who knew was crazy and had personal issues after not knowing her at all. She holds part in the blame obviously, but he is definitely responsible for bringing about the situation. It could've been avoided by not getting a lunatic with traumatic history he didn't know pregnant then taunting her with abortion to test her resolve. I'm all for forgiveness, but he doesn't see repentant , just excusing himself of blame by pointing the finger at a nutjob.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1523209231 167258664,167270758,2018-04-08 17:41:05,">>167270418 Are you implying that without NatSoc Germany, communism would have swallowed all of Europe? Are you sure you aren't actually talking about Piłsudski's Poland?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209265 167258664,167270782,2018-04-08 17:41:14,">>167270670 >globalist kikes destroying our nations Who would you say is the leading Globalist kike family responsible for the death of our nations?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523209274 167258664,167270801,2018-04-08 17:41:24,">>167270376 they didnt lose in a fair fight, hitler never wanted a large scale war except for against the soviets when he found out they are mobilizing to roll into europe, they stopped the commies by inflicting painful casualties that prevented them from effectively moving on into europe",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523209284 167258664,167270827,2018-04-08 17:41:40,">>167270070 https://youtu.be/3z_KasUheE4",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1523209300 167258664,167270873,2018-04-08 17:41:59,">>167270596 >killing te criminals myself who are you to judge who is a criminal or not",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523209319 167258664,167270896,2018-04-08 17:42:09,">>167270424 Unfortunately. This is why we don't extend property rights to democrats, communists, and other vermin.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209329 167258664,167270902,2018-04-08 17:42:11,">>167263372 Fuck off weev",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523209331 167258664,167270914,2018-04-08 17:42:18,">>167266970 this hit too close to home",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523209338 167258664,167270969,2018-04-08 17:42:51,">>167270758 >pilsudski that was way before full soviet mobilization mate",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523209371 167258664,167271199,2018-04-08 17:44:37,">>167270540 Capital L Libertarians get the bullet too.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209477 167258664,167271239,2018-04-08 17:44:58,">>167270782 It's not one family, it's a repeated pattern of ingroup behavior at the expense of white Christians. I don't want to talk about the Rothschilds because I can't trust a damn thing I find about them, but looking at the major drivers of both Marxism and multiculturalism paints a pretty vivid picture",,Anonymous,b0024ecffa372a4a1e1756159850fa3b.jpg,lCJMd2PHIXARoffsmxZiWA==,US,,1523209498 167258664,167271308,2018-04-08 17:45:33,">>167270902 Cantwell is a fed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523209533 167258664,167271312,2018-04-08 17:45:38,">>167267081 >spencer uses anti-semitism to sow zionism what he openly calls himself a supporter of jewish ethnostate fuck that's a dumb sentiment >democratic nations that become more anti-semitic totally won't eventually come to have governing bodies who are anti-semitic self destructive kikery",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1523209538 167258664,167271391,2018-04-08 17:46:20,">>167258906 What is this 'Siege' sir?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1523209580 167258664,167271472,2018-04-08 17:47:00,">>167270694 This is why we need White Sharia. Women, neurotypical or otherwise, are generally incapable of making their own decisions for themselves, whileas men are generally known to treat their property with respect. >but muh 1 out of a million fantasy waifu that can do no wrong Do you really want to leave her to her own devices long enough for her to pay for her independence? Hippity hoppity, women are property.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209620 167258664,167271617,2018-04-08 17:48:15,">>167270801 >fair fight Warfare isn't bound by the same standards as simple property conflict, and it's curious of you to invoke the notion of fairness when you're on the losing side of things. It wasn't very fair of you to run a train on poor little Belgium, was it?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209695 167258664,167271778,2018-04-08 17:49:48,">>167270873 >you Are you a filthy subjectivist? Any man possessing reason can judge whether another is a criminal by comparing their behaviour to private property norms. Murder, theft, assault, rape, arson and so on and so forth need no central authority to be determined, if anything, central authorities often protect their favourites from justice.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209788 167258664,167271833,2018-04-08 17:50:12,">>167271239 >it's not one family >I don't want to talk about the Rothschilds True.. it's a handful of families but by your unprompted mentioning of the Rothschilds clearly you understand they are at the top. Rothschilds represent the icon of evil, liberal, anti-Nationalist, Globalist Jews destroying our soverignty. And yet, it was Rothschilds who created and still control ""based"" Israel -- which as a conservative State represents the complete opposite of what Rothschilds peddle. The truth is Rothschilds created Israel by generating anti-Semitism and they empower Israel using the same method. Their own words prove this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIA4EkvpLtc They used anti-Semitism to spread panic among the Jewish population in an effort to convince Jews living in Europe to leave for the deserts of Palestine thus creating the Jewish State, and now they promote the very same to empower Israel one last time. This is why anti-Semitism is a Zionist trick. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523209812 167258664,167271865,2018-04-08 17:50:32,">>167271312 Why would Spencer support the State responsible for European Genocide and Globalism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523209832 167258664,167271926,2018-04-08 17:50:58,">>167270969 Well, Germany shouldn't have let the commies work on their soil, but it happened.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523209858 167258664,167271942,2018-04-08 17:51:03,">>167271617 The UK and France, used Belgiem, Netherlands and Poland as cannon fodder",,Anonymous,,,,,1523209863 167258664,167271976,2018-04-08 17:51:18,">>167271472 this is what libertarians believe, slavery is gone thank god, women are free within their natural predispositons, they are not property but they need to know their place by educating tem better, no person can be property, this is outdated reactionary bullshit",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523209878 167258664,167272069,2018-04-08 17:52:02,">>167271833 But again, does that mean I shouldn't call out traitorous commie kikes? I'm not afraid of being called an antisemite",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523209922 167258664,167272273,2018-04-08 17:53:38,">>167272069 It's not anti-Semitic to hold Jews responsible for real crimes. Make good arguments against them instead of screaming >gas the jews!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523210018 167258664,167272275,2018-04-08 17:53:40,">>167271778 >private property norms materialism is a cancer and you and the commies both have a similar neurodisease, property is not an ends it is a means >no central authority if you are faulty and the head and percieve that you have been robbed by some random guy, then proceed to kill him is that an objective evaluation according to you",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523210020 167258664,167272414,2018-04-08 17:54:44,">>167267332 I think Etienne de La Boetie was Catholic, actually.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523210084 167258664,167272437,2018-04-08 17:54:52,">>167271391 A military operation involving a drawn-out blockade of a strategic object held by adversary forces aiming to force the enemy to either surrender or withdraw as a result of depletion of resources like ammunition, fuel, or provisions.",,Anonymous,read siege nigger.png,sGr9wfE87fxKw8CcQYi6pA==,SK,,1523210092 167258664,167272585,2018-04-08 17:55:52,">>167272273 I don't scream that. Speaking truth to power is all it takes to become persona non grata The memes are funny though",,Anonymous,1496281381809.jpg,Pe5fCL7VFGJWVzTZPeMoBg==,US,,1523210152 167258664,167272643,2018-04-08 17:56:19,">>167271942 That's fair enough, but won't suffice as an argument. The commies might claim that Hitler used the German population as cannon fodder, too.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523210179 167258664,167272686,2018-04-08 17:56:41,">>167271976 >reactionary >bullshit Back to the oven with you.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523210201 167258664,167272693,2018-04-08 17:56:43,">>167272585 yeah",,Anonymous,lauren-southern-holocaust-3.jpg,R6XgKxxTrSgrIYSRLvr2wA==,US,,1523210203 167258664,167272793,2018-04-08 17:57:33,">>167271865 I don't know possibly shitty deflection from anti-semitism accusations",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1523210253 167258664,167272819,2018-04-08 17:57:46,>>167272437,,Anonymous,siege nigger.jpg,9jeXHb1cyAty90bgRX45/A==,,,1523210266 167258664,167272848,2018-04-08 17:57:55,">>167272275 Property is neither ends nor means, it is yourself, what you do and what you gain from what you do, so long as you do not infringe upon the property of another. I know a guy who could explain this better, but I suppose you'd have to get on the Discords there.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523210275 167258664,167272852,2018-04-08 17:57:56,">>167272686 >le based monarchism >merit shouldnt exist",,Anonymous,IMG_0165.jpg,YVLLy7O5n5u0bB0xzibp0Q==,SI,,1523210276 167258664,167273050,2018-04-08 17:59:30,">>167272793 >Spencer cares about being called an anti-Semite then he's weak and does not deserve to lead anyone but himself to the gas chamber.",,Anonymous,Richard Spencer BTFO.jpg,il2qDr91I4Pe5AaJxj46qg==,US,,1523210370 167258664,167273059,2018-04-08 17:59:36,">>167272848 >property is me >i am nothing with my property materialism is cancer, capitalism and communism are cancer",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523210376 167258664,167273183,2018-04-08 18:00:25,time to lift heavy things. cya cantwell.,,Anonymous,cantwell movement is dead.png,wGMQHgb7mAs2arsjMlC/xw==,US,,1523210425 167258664,167273446,2018-04-08 18:02:22,">>167273059 *without",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523210542 167258664,167273468,2018-04-08 18:02:31,">>167272819 no but seriously, read siege faggot",,Anonymous,virgin neetsock vs chad lrg.png,leqeMb0KkaK0WzvYFTInkg==,SK,,1523210551 167258664,167273591,2018-04-08 18:03:31,">>167272852 Monarchism is based, and merit matters little if the person of merit owns fuck-all. Keep walking through life with an outstretched hand and you might just lose it.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523210611 167258664,167273621,2018-04-08 18:03:45,">>167272437 Cool Im definitely gonna read it, im trying to find a torrent of: Siege : The Collected Writings of James Mason",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1523210625 167258664,167273640,2018-04-08 18:03:56,">>167273468 >butchering the meme this hard",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523210636 167258664,167273649,2018-04-08 18:03:59,">>167273050 >implying you can get anywhere with bad optics don't pretend like you can just not play the game and somehow succeed everyone wants to sink the boat but we all know we have to ride the tiger first not to sound like I'm defending spencer personally",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1523210639 167258664,167273659,2018-04-08 18:04:02,">>167273468 read Mein Kampf shit stain",,Anonymous,1515252181804.jpg,w8V9ByvWcYFHGHhz2s1tcQ==,,,1523210642 167258664,167273778,2018-04-08 18:04:58,>>167273468,,Anonymous,ancraps.png,VbrVxrHfO0Me2Tb2d8nQYg==,,,1523210698 167258664,167273808,2018-04-08 18:05:10,">>167273059 No, you retard, property is not the same thing as possessions. If you keep using the (((democrats'))) definitions of words, don't be surprised if you keep losing.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523210710 167258664,167273863,2018-04-08 18:05:37,">>167273808 are you actually brain dead?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523210737 167258664,167273927,2018-04-08 18:06:02,">>167273591 >monarchism is based except when the successor fucks everything up because he has autism (no amount of property can fix that) e.g. willy ii",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523210762 167258664,167274042,2018-04-08 18:07:03,">>167273808 >commie tier arguments i repeat, materialism is a cancer and you are the reverse image of the same coin",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523210823 167258664,167274064,2018-04-08 18:07:15,">>167273659 >>167273778 oooh shit he mad",,Anonymous,siege infiltration underage tap.png,Gd/0J9hku2Z/CzG+Rs9w3w==,SK,,1523210835 167258664,167274135,2018-04-08 18:07:46,">>167273640 Shut the fuck up, the only thing your country is known for is some marxist crack-addict.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523210866 167258664,167274196,2018-04-08 18:08:22,">>167274064 a libertarian meme-ing siege ironic indeed",,Anonymous,,,,,1523210902 167258664,167274249,2018-04-08 18:08:50,">>167274042 All right, fine, if you're too stupid to argue, maybe we should extend the privilege on one-way helicopter rides to you as well, if you find that preferable to operating a bitcoin mining facility as an ""indentured servant"".",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523210930 167258664,167274327,2018-04-08 18:09:26,">>167273863 No, faggot, I'm saying that you're unable to think outside the box.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523210966 167258664,167274376,2018-04-08 18:09:53,">>167274327 same could be applies to you",,Anonymous,,,,,1523210993 167258664,167274473,2018-04-08 18:10:43,">>167274135 wow nice argument, mutt, zizek is a senile alcoholic, grouping 2 million people because of literally one sperg, your country is hated all around the world because of its actions and its meme culture that exports degeneracy en masse",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523211043 167258664,167274479,2018-04-08 18:10:45,">>167274376 You made a spelling mistake so you're wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523211045 167258664,167274546,2018-04-08 18:11:15,,,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,US,,1523211075 167258664,167274583,2018-04-08 18:11:37,">>167274249 >helicopter rides see>>167273778",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523211097 167258664,167274609,2018-04-08 18:11:49,,,Anonymous,Unbridled Capitalism.jpg,aecLa8n5wRGY6qHCigdGvg==,US,,1523211109 167258664,167274643,2018-04-08 18:12:05,">>167260035 >misspelling 'The Magna Carta' this badly >>167270392 >without Christianity people would never try to destroy Christianity This better not be an attempt at anti-christian posting",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523211125 167258664,167274645,2018-04-08 18:12:06,,,Anonymous,What is Fascism.png,Qyq+PpdyKiQn2nIwJQwr2Q==,US,,1523211126 167258664,167274648,2018-04-08 18:12:08,">>167274546 >>167274609 Nobody reads your blogs, kid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523211128 167258664,167274658,2018-04-08 18:12:11,>>167274479,,Anonymous,1515953172806s.jpg,ayrGsUq3zlo8D4XzItmQ5g==,,,1523211131 167258664,167274692,2018-04-08 18:12:25,,,Anonymous,NatSoc.jpg,M+XXBnq+5EjXo/alhs7y4Q==,US,,1523211145 167258664,167274784,2018-04-08 18:13:10,">>167274648 >Implying I give a fuck.",,Anonymous,Culture.png,DraxHGGwJQ8ijlGlx+KXvA==,US,,1523211190 167258664,167274848,2018-04-08 18:13:34,,,Anonymous,Beaver on self-sufficency.png,JPO1Tu6zbvXzMRNxFwAatA==,US,,1523211214 167258664,167274863,2018-04-08 18:13:45,">>167259903 kek nice one dude",,Anonymous,,,,,1523211225 167258664,167274872,2018-04-08 18:13:53,,,Anonymous,4 Stages.png,n9rZTfUQEHwJ2N0kJo1zkA==,US,,1523211233 167258664,167274909,2018-04-08 18:14:09,,,Anonymous,Projection.jpg,QEAWHALrG65jdUrLvF9GTw==,US,,1523211249 167258664,167275559,2018-04-08 18:19:35,">>167274848 Funny thing how beaverposts are quite libertarian in nature.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523211575 167258664,167275704,2018-04-08 18:20:48,">>167271308 Oh my bad fuck off Ricky Vaughn aka Douglass Mackey",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523211648 167258664,167275936,2018-04-08 18:22:42,">>167266223 >>167266433 Whoa, based jews. Thanks for telling us the truth, time to disavow!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523211762 167258664,167276738,2018-04-08 18:29:19,">>167258664 Libertarians are the most stupid political group to be ever concieved (no surprise it was made in America). You are literally worse than communist, you praise a totally imaginary idea (the free market) while you get countless evidence that markets do not work in such way, the always end up monopolized or with a few companies doing collusion. Then, in your total ignorance of history,economics,politics and anything, you decide to make a separation between ""the good free market"" and ""le ebil gobbimint"". While historically capitalism never ever existed without a strong goverment to back it up. Please remove yourself in a helicopter you fucking retards.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1523212159 167258664,167276813,2018-04-08 18:29:48,">>167266967 Nut he speaks in great detail about the anti-western behavioral patterns of jews. How do you reconcile this with him actually being a zionist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523212188 167258664,167276864,2018-04-08 18:30:14,">>167276813 But*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523212214 167258664,167277010,2018-04-08 18:31:23,">>167276738 seems like Pinochet missed one",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523212283 167258664,167277283,2018-04-08 18:33:32,">>167276738 >historically capitalism never ever existed without a strong goverment to back it up Actually free markets tended to take root in those countries where tyranny waned, you god-damned spic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523212412 167258664,167277371,2018-04-08 18:34:04,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0sdR-UdYzg reminder to always keep your rifle by your side",,Anonymous,ancap gf.gif,uEu/OUA/TRcemDh83/HgaQ==,PT,,1523212444 167258664,167277392,2018-04-08 18:34:13,">>167277010 >pinochet see>>167273778",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523212453 167258664,167277501,2018-04-08 18:35:13,">>167277010 >not knowing how to properly spell pinoscat",,Anonymous,,,,,1523212513 167258664,167277536,2018-04-08 18:35:32,">>167260129 Define 'societal degeneration' without sounding like a 70 year old church-going grandmother.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523212532 167258664,167277953,2018-04-08 18:38:55,">>167277536 A 70-year old grandma is preferable to somebody who can't see the rot of our society.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523212735 167258664,167277961,2018-04-08 18:39:00,">>167277536 >Social Degeneration the United States the last 100 years",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523212740 167258664,167278096,2018-04-08 18:40:06,">>167277961 pretty much since 1913, yep coincidentally the same year the (((income tax))), as well as the (((federal reserve))) were introduced.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523212806 167258664,167278157,2018-04-08 18:40:40,">>167277283 Thats what I said silly burger >>167277953 >>167277961 Back to church puritan faggots",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1523212840 167258664,167278210,2018-04-08 18:41:09,">>167277501 >I'm going to force my pinoscat maymay so hard that those silly lolbergtardians will HAVE to give in!!!!!!!!!! I am le epic troll!!!! XDDDD",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523212869 167258664,167278552,2018-04-08 18:43:42,">>167278157 You'll find out about puritanism soon enough jew boy",,Anonymous,1475584611455.png,QbDAZq7ziGmNOxfZ+4vziQ==,US,,1523213022 167258664,167278616,2018-04-08 18:44:12,">>167278157 Maybe I should go to church, but you definitely need it more than I do.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523213052 167258664,167278714,2018-04-08 18:45:04,">>167278210 It's telling that ""scat"" is the first thing that comes to mind to these people.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523213104 167258664,167278817,2018-04-08 18:45:51,,,Anonymous,1522354864732.jpg,iQ8gOCw4V1uha3i5KMSBXw==,US,,1523213151 167258664,167279329,2018-04-08 18:50:11,">>167276813 Anglin pretends the liberal Western Jewish Elite aren't the same as the Israeli elite.",,Anonymous,anglin israel 2.png,jm4P3qEtk97fQHXxG/zdqA==,US,,1523213411 167258664,167279385,2018-04-08 18:50:41,">>167278817 why do I think of Richard Spencer when looking at this image?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523213441 167258664,167279707,2018-04-08 18:53:25,">>167268611 American founding fathers today would be libertarian socialists with a heavy nationalist tilt.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523213605 167258664,167279783,2018-04-08 18:54:05,">>167279385 i dled that siege book gonna give it a read, I hope it's gonna be good.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1523213645 167258664,167279840,2018-04-08 18:54:36,">>167279385 probably because he's a socialist faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523213676 167258664,167279988,2018-04-08 18:55:52,">>167279783 don't do it if you're prone to violence senpai, final warning",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523213752 167258664,167280033,2018-04-08 18:56:14,">>167279707 >socialists AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA back of the oven to you",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523213774 167258664,167280117,2018-04-08 18:56:57,">>167279707 I didn't realize a nation of yeoman farmers living in autonomous states was socialists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523213817 167258664,167280373,2018-04-08 18:59:03,">>167270070 I'm assuming some kike Luke Ford had on his channel, but idunno?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523213943 167258664,167280396,2018-04-08 18:59:17,">>167280117 They lived in a largely feodal society. There is no evidence that they'd support capitalism. If anything there seems to be evidence that they'd support socialism, considering how they followed the classical libertarian ideal, which eventually developed to the french revolution and libertarian socialism.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523213957 167258664,167280892,2018-04-08 19:03:26,">>167273468 assuming this meme is referring to Cantwell, he's already alienated himself from both TRS and the Daily Stormer, as a former fan, he's truly a self destructive person and I truly hope he turns it around and gets a grip.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523214206 167258664,167281314,2018-04-08 19:07:13,">>167280892 >cantwell disavows (((TRS))) and (((DS))) so he's /ourguy/ then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523214433 167258664,167281689,2018-04-08 19:10:25,">>167258906 looks pretty jewish at first glance almost like Ayn Rand was a Soviet trained jewess sent the the US to subvert it. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523214625 167258664,167282206,2018-04-08 19:14:50,">>167269825 this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523214890 167258664,167282290,2018-04-08 19:15:34,">>167281314 I'm not gong to defend TRS or DS(who cantwell was all buddy buddy with less than a month ago), but if you can't acknowledge Cantwell is self-destructive dude with anger and substance abuse problems, then you probably have issues of your own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523214934 167258664,167282687,2018-04-08 19:18:53,">>167280396 Define capitalism Are you using the laymen's definition of free markets and private property, or the Marxist definition which is a specifically crony capitalist system that regulates industries to have monopolies?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523215133 167258664,167282959,2018-04-08 19:21:07,">>167282290 >with anger and substance abuse problems I can acknowledge that. However, if despite his personal demons he has the integrity to disavow Jewish subversive groups like TRS/DS, along with their leaders like Enoch/Anglin/Spencer, he has proven the Aryan spirit lives within him. Substance abuse problems are common especially among white people because the Jew poisons us; Cantwell is a victim of the same Jewry he has abandoned. Now his personal demons can be conjured and exorcised. Cantwell can make himself great again!",,Anonymous,white-genocide-alcohol-drugs.png,TZoNplBQXIW1DNy7dKwIXg==,US,,1523215267 167258664,167283365,2018-04-08 19:24:53,">>167282959 wow moarpheus you spent the whole thread shilling against cantwell only to a 180 towards the end. more proof you don't know what you're talking about and just make shit up and spread rumors. You're a joke moarpheus we're composing a thread of you on /cow/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523215493 167258664,167283405,2018-04-08 19:25:11,">>167282687 Private ownership of the means of production. Do note that some systems of worker ownership like market socialism do involve the free market. You're just not allowed to make profit from other people's labor in the socialism, which I imagine that the founding fathers would have supported.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523215511 167258664,167283561,2018-04-08 19:26:36,">>167283365 >(1) Can you show where I've shilled against Cantwell ITT?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523215596 167258664,167283762,2018-04-08 19:28:42,Aesthetics and shitposting time!,,Anonymous,Hoppe high impact physical removal.jpg,caODaKu7V554Eud0DBMGOw==,US,,1523215722 167258664,167283887,2018-04-08 19:30:04,,,Anonymous,glitch_art_20180206174010.jpg,uYTeJu9EFBwfzrBlxtUo5g==,US,,1523215804 167258664,167283938,2018-04-08 19:30:39,">>167283365 >mfw you realize I haven't shilled one time against Cantwell the entire thread, you're exposed as a deceptive shill, and wont post again but you go make your thread on /cow/. that will surely show me!",,Anonymous,mfw bird.gif,4sZPm10Aqgv+wKJ+klZykA==,US,,1523215839 167258664,167283957,2018-04-08 19:30:52,,,Anonymous,don't fuck with us.png,PBCqPSOAVcfXx/JPWcHjZw==,US,,1523215852 167258664,167283989,2018-04-08 19:31:16,">>167283405 Socialism is the means of production being controlled by the workers, not privately owned. It is antithetical to what they wanted. Before it was ""Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"" it was ""Life, Liberty, and Property"" but that doesn't stick in the brain as well",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523215876 167258664,167284072,2018-04-08 19:32:08,,,Anonymous,20180309_170508.jpg,xnt24eone/SKgTfNjul6TA==,US,,1523215928 167258664,167284213,2018-04-08 19:33:23,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_03-11-11.59.24.jpg,quYrXXrQcchpq1u5dwD/tQ==,US,,1523216003 167258664,167284360,2018-04-08 19:34:59,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1523216099 167258664,167284431,2018-04-08 19:35:44,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-16-12.22.00.jpg,Q/JPi1kUf9OQvwWLf7LyzA==,US,,1523216144 167258664,167284510,2018-04-08 19:36:24,anglin and weev are legit insane if they're bitching about swastikas,,Anonymous,racist-flyer-by-hacker.png,6LGZ7qe0MT3CQdJaExsveQ==,RO,,1523216184 167258664,167284513,2018-04-08 19:36:25,,,Anonymous,20171107172402_glitch.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,US,,1523216185 167258664,167284604,2018-04-08 19:37:18,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-07-12.46.23.png,VMPXSTzhnoXQWlxSIkgdlA==,US,,1523216238 167258664,167284670,2018-04-08 19:38:01,HELICOPTER,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523216281 167258664,167284691,2018-04-08 19:38:12,">>167283989 You must remember that the founding fathers lived in a feodal society, and were defening the right of peasants of own property. It does seem like they'd reagard modern capitalism just as neofeodalism.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523216292 167258664,167284764,2018-04-08 19:38:50,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1523216330 167258664,167284889,2018-04-08 19:40:00,,,Anonymous,20180407_234944.png,CCWUIFlOrVC/WA4TYpp2Pg==,US,,1523216400 167258664,167284908,2018-04-08 19:40:10,">>167266551 >I don't see anybody actually inciting violence Cointel does more than that, these days. They're more about keeping people docile and distracted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523216410 167258664,167284941,2018-04-08 19:40:27,">>167259090 Remember when David Friedman BTFO /lrg/?",,Anonymous,hoppeans BTFO.png,pu7Qa0h8gg+dWZolyuF4zQ==,,,1523216427 167258664,167285295,2018-04-08 19:43:51,">>167284691 >It does seem like they'd reagard modern capitalism just as neofeodalism. Without question, modern capitalism is a disgrace. They would be appalled that we're so inextricably linked to global banks. But I don't think Anglo society was really feudal by that point, they'd moved away from that over the previous few centuries since the Black Death",,Anonymous,1498965279129.jpg,vptIgl7MYPNz1tL+LLK1dQ==,US,,1523216631 167258664,167285355,2018-04-08 19:44:33,">>167284764 >>167284889 Rothbard wasn't a ""throw commies out of the helicopter"" person like you /lrg/ retards, you know. According Rothbard, it was the red-baiting hysterically anti-communist conservatives who killed the post-war libertarian movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523216673 167258664,167286399,2018-04-08 19:54:27,">>167285355 Why would he throw his relatives out of helicopters?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523217267 167258664,167286585,2018-04-08 19:55:57,">>167285355 Lmao fuck you faggot. Hail Rothbard, hail /lrg/.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523217357 167258664,167287058,2018-04-08 20:00:00,">>167286585 Rothbard allied himself to the New Left during the 60s, retard. You probably never read any Rothbard, you fake libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523217600 167258664,167288830,2018-04-08 20:15:26,">>167287058 >Rothbard allied himself to the New Left during the 60s, retard Of course he did, tribe first free markets second",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523218526 167258664,167290662,2018-04-08 20:32:10,">>167287058 And then he regretted it once he realized leftyfucks are retarded",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523219530 167258664,167291158,2018-04-08 20:36:52,">>167259709 cantwell looks like one of those tough brooklyn jews that can beatup the nogs and the wops",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523219812 167850624,167850624,2018-04-12 16:31:15,">Discussion Topic: federal government gay This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General - Forced Integration is Genocide,Anonymous,LibRightGen.png,DAo6xn5yvke1kVAw7+HlUQ==,US,,1523550675 167850624,167850808,2018-04-12 16:32:42,,,Anonymous,The Family_Full.png,CBwhYh4z7kc8lqDhV7HmLw==,US,,1523550762 167850624,167850843,2018-04-12 16:32:59,,,Anonymous,Dignity.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,US,,1523550779 167850624,167850875,2018-04-12 16:33:15,,,Anonymous,LeaveUsAlone.png,DjX09060Ek8usYxYahw2TA==,US,,1523550795 167850624,167850901,2018-04-12 16:33:35,,,Anonymous,No Taxation3.png,JvUu8q+d0CftR7JPvwUKGw==,US,,1523550815 167850624,167851144,2018-04-12 16:35:33,,,Anonymous,ancap-childprotection.jpg,lgXbkBK6Ixlg/fqWGLbHMw==,US,,1523550933 167850624,167851203,2018-04-12 16:36:03,,,Anonymous,ancap-roadsvhelicopters.png,RCFsVAvaP5p+r6VqwPLYTw==,US,,1523550963 167850624,167851238,2018-04-12 16:36:21,>>167851203,,Anonymous,ancap-spiderconsent.jpg,7mC7ixGbjatzV0xwJwoR0Q==,US,,1523550981 167850624,167851281,2018-04-12 16:36:39,>>167851238,,Anonymous,ancap-flatlander.jpg,U/4f4NYbyvxZcsRmIpX9KA==,US,,1523550999 167850624,167851347,2018-04-12 16:37:06,>>167851281,,Anonymous,ancap-mcsuit.png,P+RrbcWtQFGfLQUNKe1s/A==,US,,1523551026 167850624,167851480,2018-04-12 16:38:16,">>167851347 great thred 10/10",,Anonymous,nice.png,ypcVXfNurjzltWighB1Nzw==,US,,1523551096 167850624,167851695,2018-04-12 16:40:09,"How is the NAP not the gayest thing ever? You all sound like the libtards ""as long as it's not hurting anyone!!""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523551209 167850624,167852004,2018-04-12 16:42:37,">>167851695 Yes I know, you much prefer the state enforced homosexuality we have today. stop being gay u nerd.",,Anonymous,DontFukWithDis2.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,US,,1523551357 167850624,167852066,2018-04-12 16:43:05,">>167850624 fuck all libertarian tards with a fukcking cactucss",,Anonymous,1231023.png,wPtWtipUIgFkdj6YBB0fZw==,US,,1523551385 167850624,167852163,2018-04-12 16:43:52,">>167850624 shit on all libertarians and their shitty posts",,Anonymous,19042131.png,n7OVMu79cgzRSQYCaqVerg==,US,,1523551432 167850624,167852286,2018-04-12 16:45:00,">>167851695 Enjoy pain and misery forever because you were to fuckin stupid to understand the importance of logical principles regarding multiple humans in locals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523551500 167850624,167852397,2018-04-12 16:45:53,,,Anonymous,libertarianism.png,7OgOhKK0xSS1wEW8rWHs6w==,US,,1523551553 167850624,167852500,2018-04-12 16:46:38,">>167851695 >You all sound like the libtards ""as long as it's not hurting anyone!!"" The difference is that we differentiate between kneejerk feelings, legitimate interests that deserve protection under the law, and legitimate interests that you shouldn't kill or imprison people over. >>167852066 That newspaper comic sure showed us. Might as well throw poop at us.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523551598 167850624,167852571,2018-04-12 16:47:11,The gayest thing ever is forcing other people to pay for things they don't agree with.,,Anonymous,taxpayer.jpg,A4xoJTbfYjK6VtBGNj2WFg==,,,1523551631 167850624,167852594,2018-04-12 16:47:26,">>167852397 lmao, who the fuck cares what the lolbergs say you dumb lefty. Austro libertarianism or you're a big gay",,Anonymous,1506915101127.jpg,6a11OCZp5L21fAGgTS7vzw==,US,,1523551646 167850624,167852679,2018-04-12 16:48:08,">>167852594 >it's not real libertarianism",,Anonymous,libertarianism 2.png,BVBOJI8j8eMzuCe42b8Gvw==,US,,1523551688 167850624,167852754,2018-04-12 16:48:46,">>167852163 And what do you think you're doing with your post? Do you think that's a way to influence people on a rational level, or on a base and emotional level? If it's the latter, well, then you also might just as well throw shit at us, it would be equally valid as an argument. >>167852397 >""We are right-wing libertarians"" >HA! Look how retarded left-wing libertarians are!",,Anonymous,,,,,1523551726 167850624,167852937,2018-04-12 16:50:17,">>167851695 There’s nothing gay about moral principles. Make a stand for a universal right to freedom or be a vacillating utilitarian. Though there are right wing libertarians who are consequentialists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523551817 167850624,167853037,2018-04-12 16:51:04,">>167852066 This is pretty low quality trolling man. Very childish",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523551864 167850624,167853085,2018-04-12 16:51:22,">>167852679 yeah, if you're advocating for a state, let alone a world super state you are not a libertarian, you're a filthy liberal. Sorry Mises.",,Anonymous,path4181.png,3Rh8XX/EEdqvzzT07eMIog==,US,,1523551882 167850624,167853400,2018-04-12 16:53:59,">>167852679 >Libertarianism hasn't moved on since Hayek and Mises It actually has, you know. Mises and Hayek came out of a time when tariffs and protectionism brought about a world war, less than thirty years after they had brought about another. ""Omnipotent Government"" describes how this happened. The late Rothbard, and later Hoppe, wrote at a time when the free flow of goods across borders was not that seriously threatened (not more seriously than other laissez-faire policies), but where the state began to introduce massive demographic shifts, partially through the introduction of the welfare state. Two different times. I'm sure that if Mises (and probably Hayek to) had seen their countries get overrun by immigrants, they'd have written an addendum to their works, without seriously changing their views.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523552039 167850624,167853484,2018-04-12 16:54:40,,,Anonymous,helicopter reading list.jpg,d4E6Yn1sntnNpVJxd4wIlQ==,,,1523552080 167850624,167853719,2018-04-12 16:56:27,"For when you really don't feel like reading much, but want to know what anarchocapitalism is about. Won't give you knowledge on everything, but it will give you a good foundation to build on.",,Anonymous,ancap reading list short.png,6LEor8KJYYZXOiK9DknvLQ==,,,1523552187 167850624,167854035,2018-04-12 16:58:57,,,Anonymous,absolute sovereignty modern idea.jpg,zK5RfBbGePL1GjXVSkNEYA==,,,1523552337 167850624,167854179,2018-04-12 17:00:14,">>167850624 If you're a person that values liberty in any capacity then you must be a white advocate/adhere to the 14 words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffv8V11lReU&t=31s&ab_channel=TheAlternativeHypothesis",,Anonymous,Voting2016.jpg,og9qQxRfE+P28k5l0Sn4Mg==,US,,1523552414 167850624,167854264,2018-04-12 17:00:57,">>167854035 The formatting is shit, but it's a very enlightening two pages. They describe how the idea of absolutism transformed into democracy. I can recommend that whole book, ""Sovereignty"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1523552457 167850624,167854599,2018-04-12 17:03:40,">>167853484 >The Machinery of Freedom, by David Friedman Remember when David Friedman BTFO /lrg/?",,Anonymous,hoppeans BTFO.png,pu7Qa0h8gg+dWZolyuF4zQ==,,,1523552620 167850624,167854644,2018-04-12 17:04:04,">>167850624 For Freedom and Fatherland.",,Anonymous,defend.jpg,8Ro3R/r9KJmPN4eftwlCnA==,DK,,1523552644 167850624,167854647,2018-04-12 17:04:05,,,Anonymous,Why is Healthcare so Expensive in America.jpg,fw2siAr+wUFB7qBnnKWPPQ==,,,1523552645 167850624,167854749,2018-04-12 17:04:59,">>167854599 Kek. I talked to him once, he's a fine fella but tends to sound a bit butthurt.",,Anonymous,How Government Solved The Healthcare Crisis.png,qOCZb+3POMGzbG8uHsymww==,,,1523552699 167850624,167854810,2018-04-12 17:05:30,,,Anonymous,Illustrated Guide to Gun Control.png,YBTFxMwl8JQIXvliXscI2w==,,,1523552730 167850624,167854863,2018-04-12 17:05:51,">>167852163 This comic equates the state with the economic engine of a household and equates citizens with useless pets.. somehow it thinks it's arguing against libertarianism?",,Anonymous,Goncerned Bidizen.png,Z82tJJvBkGmnFA1YsvkgSg==,SE,,1523552751 167850624,167854933,2018-04-12 17:06:21,,,Anonymous,strict gun control equals more crime.png,r2mOnSpcqUo0EgT2sSh9CA==,,,1523552781 167850624,167855005,2018-04-12 17:06:57,">>167854179 who says I dont? I'm on board with the ethnostate man.",,Anonymous,National_Flag_Of_Ansnekistan_Vector.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,US,,1523552817 167850624,167855070,2018-04-12 17:07:37,">>167854749 Why are you stealing material from a self-described left-libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523552857 167850624,167855130,2018-04-12 17:08:07,">>167851695 That is more like JS Mill's Harm principle which was a bit vague. Opening a competing business across from another may harm the owner financial but this does not count as aggression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523552887 167850624,167855163,2018-04-12 17:08:24,">>167854644 But my ""Fatherland"" is the greatest threat to my freedom.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523552904 167850624,167855235,2018-04-12 17:08:54,"It's good to see libertarianism trigger everyone on /pol/. The magapedes and democrat shills angry you criticised their liberal democracy/republic, socialists of all kinds will come and complain about muhnopoly, and then you get the larpers coming to complain about ""without government, how will I arrest people for doing things I don't like?""",,Anonymous,before_after.jpg,9ewDRXVZ8EW/jH0SHaAWKQ==,GB,,1523552934 167850624,167855431,2018-04-12 17:10:33,">>167855163 Care to explain? what has your nation done to harm you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523553033 167850624,167855533,2018-04-12 17:11:32,">butthurt >may as well throw poop what a faggot libertarians are known for their retardation so don't be butthurt at other people wanting to point this out you fucking retard if you insist on shilling for the retarded shit, expect a little scorn faggot",,Anonymous,3823348234.png,bnur8V36/P5EKsJhfNJcEA==,US,,1523553092 167850624,167855555,2018-04-12 17:11:42,">>167855431 He's german their country sucks >>167855163 Yeah germany sucks how dare she stand where he stood.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523553102 167850624,167855566,2018-04-12 17:11:47,">>167854863 >equates citizens with useless pets Reminds me of when I read Origen, a 3rd century writer, and he said it isn't decent to liken your human enemy to a dog, a worm or any other irrational animal. Well, this cartoonist likened his target audience to animals, and saw nothing wrong with that. Quite telling.",,Anonymous,left inferiority feelings.png,AC5FqWyHgvQAI8X3myAO0w==,,,1523553107 167850624,167855647,2018-04-12 17:12:32,,,Anonymous,1522434416757.png,HVQ1SLvIfWarjKleiHc8bg==,US,,1523553152 167850624,167855797,2018-04-12 17:13:46,">>167850624 Bump for liberty and allowing machine guns into the hands of good citiziens. Also about bad guys with nukes, a bad guy with a nuke can only be stopped by a good guy with a nuke. >>167851695 Because the NAP is literally a libertine meme. We believe in property rights as a principle from which something similiar to the NAP comes from.",,Anonymous,left vs right.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,PL,,1523553226 167850624,167855863,2018-04-12 17:14:19,">>167855647 This is delusional. Private firms hire non-whites all the time. Are you a NEET who stays home all day and never actually sees what occurs in the real world?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553259 167850624,167855909,2018-04-12 17:14:49,">>167855070 Because a lot of the material is decent, even if some of the underlying assumptions are cancer, like that equality is a good in itself. >>167855235 Right after that quote in which Mises seemingly praises fascism, he goes on to bash it, and doesn't stop for other two hundred more pages. The man was no fan of fascism. He thought they were commies-lite.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553289 167850624,167856084,2018-04-12 17:16:41,"HA HA HA HA AHAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAhahahah*cough* ahem yeah you fuckers are so retarded its like shootin fish in a barrel",,Anonymous,hahahahaha.jpg,Mns6EoVE+MI2mw8evJhwKw==,US,,1523553401 167850624,167856172,2018-04-12 17:17:36,">>167855863 >Private firms hire non-whites all the time. i did not say they didn't, and to further my point, in the future non-whites will have no idea what's going on in such a technologically advanced culture. think about throwing a chicago nigger in the middle of tokyo. useless. >Are you a NEET who stays home all day and never actually sees what occurs in the real world? no, i've lived in 3 states and worked 4 full time jobs since high school graduation and that was 6 years ago. what i'm trying to say is that most niggers are too retarded to survive in an immediate ancapistan transition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523553456 167850624,167856173,2018-04-12 17:17:36,">>167855533 I fucking hate /NUpol/ go back you fucking idiot. You literally don't know what ""corporation"" means. What you are thinking of is huge private firms who have oligarchic power thanks to the regulations imposed on small companies. Goverment actually helps big bussiness when it rises taxes up to a point, because it kills small competition. Regulation is even fucking worse.",,Anonymous,1498168013982.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,PL,,1523553456 167850624,167856186,2018-04-12 17:17:44,,,Anonymous,Ancap_ab692b_5999910.jpg,gMurJI62xkflrYKJ4nRcXQ==,CA,,1523553464 167850624,167856193,2018-04-12 17:17:46,">>167855797 >Because the NAP is literally a libertine meme. >We believe in property rights as a principle from which something similiar to the NAP comes from. Wouldn't subscribe to that. The NAP is almost superfluous in that the right of self-ownership and property rights already imply non-agression, but it isn't a principle only libertines use. Rothbard kept it throughout his career, even when he turned conservative, and Hoppe keeps it and already was a conservative from the beginning.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553466 167850624,167856259,2018-04-12 17:18:26,">>167855863 have you ever heard of the civil rights act? Read some of the laws we have in place in my country you meathead douche.",,Anonymous,Capture.png,uSPAj/qj0DkEDXzpLqY3BA==,US,,1523553506 167850624,167856286,2018-04-12 17:18:40,">>167856193 The NAP is a libertine meme because we do not adhere to the NAP, we adhere to property rights. Private property rights include more ideas than the NAP itself, which private property rights create. NAP is a meme.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523553520 167850624,167856293,2018-04-12 17:18:47,">>167850624 nice",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553527 167850624,167856357,2018-04-12 17:19:15,">>167855005 Not accusing you of anything, but too many liberty loving whites think that white standards can apply universally to all races",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523553555 167850624,167856372,2018-04-12 17:19:27,HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAAHAHHHAAAAHAHHAHAAAAHHAAHAHAHa,,Anonymous,1501448568839.jpg,veT9yPOMIxx4fE7q85GraA==,US,,1523553567 167850624,167856419,2018-04-12 17:19:52,">>167855163 My government is tyrannical. But my nation is not. The fatherland is not the government, it's the nation. A fatherland is a people all united in language, faith, traditions, values and blood. The unity acts as a fatherly role for them, it's the people's disciplinary, caring and protective entity.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1523553592 167850624,167856493,2018-04-12 17:20:28,">>167856172 Technology makes life more convenient, retard. Why would you need to be smart to survive in a technologically advanced society?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553628 167850624,167856500,2018-04-12 17:20:34,">>167856357 90% of us are ethno-staters on /lrg/, the rest are newcomers.",,Anonymous,the state is the ultimate nigger Dindu' Rothbard.jpg,NOwPZ0YN9WMV9C40DgaEeA==,PL,,1523553634 167850624,167856547,2018-04-12 17:20:59,">>167856084 >Dat comic Walter Block wrote a five hundred page book on muh roads. I only didn't read it because the pdf crashed and I was too lazy to do any troubleshooting. >>167856186 This pic describes a really shitty service. Why would people pay for such a shitty service? They wouldn't. They'd use private ambulances that don't ask for your credit card information before they come. All others would go out of business, as no one likes their service. Sorry this got so redundant, but I felt I had to make this extra clear. I remember Ron Paul also saying that during his days as a doctor, when healthcare wasn't quite as regulated, doctors never turned down an ill patient.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553659 167850624,167856558,2018-04-12 17:21:04,">>167850624 Styx is running for office in Vermont, /lrg/ is back again and a MGTOW thread is up. Can't say I can imagine a better day on /pol/ than this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553664 167850624,167856651,2018-04-12 17:21:57,">>167856186 >implying you wouldn't have advanced yet inexpensive subscription services that monitor your vitals 24/7 and auto dispatch an ambulance as soon as something off statists are so close minded",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553717 167850624,167856741,2018-04-12 17:22:43,">>167856493 >Why would you need to be smart to survive in a technologically advanced society? do me a favor, travel to the inner cities, and ask a monkey to push out a full page of javascript code. lol.",,Anonymous,1493839493056.jpg,mT/u8qn8F9Maqej1uTBhuQ==,US,,1523553763 167850624,167856782,2018-04-12 17:23:03,">>167856286 you come from a commie shithole. what do you know about property?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553783 167850624,167856814,2018-04-12 17:23:17,">>167850624 Shadilay my brothers",,Anonymous,5a300509421b6.png,D1Jwlk8cWqJAWqo90oG85g==,US,,1523553797 167850624,167856819,2018-04-12 17:23:19,">>167856558 Yeah, I hope he gets at least 10% of the vote. Time to start meme magicking /ourguys/ into local office and start imposing White People law's.",,Anonymous,Dziki świeży Korwin.jpg,3cszUi70JLOzHpEqSlhzkw==,PL,,1523553799 167850624,167856890,2018-04-12 17:24:02,">>167856286 The NAP is an accessory to property rights. You cannot adhere to the NAP without any rights that it applies to, and you cannot respect property rights without at the same time respecting the NAP. Like I said, you can leave out the NAP and still formulate an anarchocapitalist ideology, but that is not the point. The point is, there is nothing libertine about it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553842 167850624,167856897,2018-04-12 17:24:04,">>167856782 Great argument you fucking retard. Property rights include the NAP, stop spreading the NAP. We are not lolbergs.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523553844 167850624,167856935,2018-04-12 17:24:33,">>167856897 fuck off commie. you are property of russia",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553873 167850624,167856938,2018-04-12 17:24:35,">>167856814 yeeha",,Anonymous,1522626173700.png,zP+Kbi7QZko86kZfVtb9iA==,US,,1523553875 167850624,167856963,2018-04-12 17:24:51,,,Anonymous,why do people want guns.jpg,yavIgeQmx/5S8YLO4hYpIg==,,,1523553891 167850624,167856977,2018-04-12 17:25:01,">>167856741 Most people can't program in Javascript, retard. In a free market society, people don't need to be self-sufficient. Do you know how to hunt and grow your own food? Did you build your own house? Did you sew your own clothes?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553901 167850624,167856978,2018-04-12 17:25:01,">>167856814 >meme magick >shadilay Bot posting everywhere. We haven't spoken like that in more than a year.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523553901 167850624,167857004,2018-04-12 17:25:17,">>167855909 All of the quotes are out of context. It's for the meme.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523553917 167850624,167857044,2018-04-12 17:25:43,">>167856890 It is libertine. When you spread the NAP as the only core principle out of our ideology it doesn't solve things like guardianship, pregnancy or enviromentalism.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523553943 167850624,167857064,2018-04-12 17:25:49,">>167856814 cringey as fuck",,Anonymous,NAPPYTIME.jpg,SkyLBHzBJeyFvOuekNwBMA==,US,,1523553949 167850624,167857101,2018-04-12 17:26:10,">>167856977 >Most people can't program in Javascript that's because JS is a shitty toy language and the average person has too much class to program in it",,Anonymous,,,,,1523553970 167850624,167857227,2018-04-12 17:27:35,">these threads are on again finally, trump cultists made this board shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554055 167850624,167857258,2018-04-12 17:27:51,">>167856897 >Property rights include the NAP, stop spreading the NAP. We are not lolbergs. Neither are Rothbard and Hoppe and they both kept the NAP. The latter is the single most right-wing libertarian intellectual, and the one that spawned the ""physical removal"" meme. He posed with helicopters in pics, and wrote an entire book bashing democracy and egalitarianism. If keeping the NAP is good enough for him, then it is good enough for any lesser libertarian conservative.",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann Hoppe on the state.jpg,MTchJt+X1jbOWkOyeEPqCg==,,,1523554071 167850624,167857266,2018-04-12 17:27:55,">>167851144 why would you damage your own property?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554075 167850624,167857348,2018-04-12 17:28:43,">>167857044 >When you spread the NAP as the only core principle out of our ideology As no libertarian thinker worth his salt ever did. It is not supposed to stand on its own.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554123 167850624,167857352,2018-04-12 17:28:44,">>167857258 I am not saying to reject it I am saying to stop spreading it as a core principle. It is a symptom, not the cause.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523554124 167850624,167857458,2018-04-12 17:29:50,">>167856977 that's not the point, retard. if you sat anyone with an iq of 100 down and with some time they could start to pick together any complex intellectual task with time, i'm not specifically saying javascript. why are you arguing for the sake of a nigger's life? are you really a cuck? you can't truly be an ancap if you don't adhere to rationality and objectivity, in this case it would be specifically the crime rates and disastrous effects of mixers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523554190 167850624,167857584,2018-04-12 17:30:59,">>167857044 It is the foundation. All it says is that aggression is inherently wrong. That is all is need to say. The next part is deciding what constitutes aggression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554259 167850624,167857656,2018-04-12 17:31:40,">>167852066 >leftycartoons.com And people said the left can't meme!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523554300 167850624,167857672,2018-04-12 17:31:50,,,Anonymous,1504485988687.jpg,eXgjtzwuPvHc71y3zC2rSQ==,US,,1523554310 167850624,167857694,2018-04-12 17:32:06,,,Anonymous,1523374846463.jpg,YHoaJ4KjeviXRioBAC8agw==,US,,1523554326 167850624,167857728,2018-04-12 17:32:23,,,Anonymous,1492395637115.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,US,,1523554343 167850624,167857746,2018-04-12 17:32:29,">>167857458 It doesn't matter if black people aren't intelligent. Even if ""niggers"" are particularly stupid, they wouldn't have a hard time surviving in a wealthy technologically advanced society, you retard.",,Anonymous,dresden.jpg,JyIKhjQbvqbqCs8GLRwWuw==,,,1523554349 167850624,167857774,2018-04-12 17:32:42,,,Anonymous,1508942632547.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,US,,1523554362 167850624,167857785,2018-04-12 17:32:47,">>167857584 You are plain wrong, go and study actual right libertarian philosophy and don't come back before that.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523554367 167850624,167857875,2018-04-12 17:33:36,">>167851695 Libtards think words are violence. They have absolutely no concept of the NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523554416 167850624,167857980,2018-04-12 17:34:35,">>167852397 Shit like this is why I'm not libertarian anymore. They defend Islam but not white nationalism",,Anonymous,1493595480078.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,US,,1523554475 167850624,167857999,2018-04-12 17:34:45,">>167857101 Then, what computer language is great to start with?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523554485 167850624,167858055,2018-04-12 17:35:13,">>167857746 >It doesn't matter if black people aren't intelligent. yes it does, because if they can survive in an intelligent society without welfare (according to your hypothesis) then they will mix and destroy iq's and crime rates, and the lives of children. >Even if ""niggers"" are particularly stupid, they wouldn't have a hard time surviving in a wealthy technologically advanced society, you retard. >webm related, retard",,Anonymous,proofs.webm,m2q/4ouowqx738e/laPRow==,US,,1523554513 167850624,167858169,2018-04-12 17:36:20,">>167857999 C",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554580 167850624,167858209,2018-04-12 17:36:42,">>167856978 >accuses bottery >Russian bots posting expired memes I didn't think someone could refute themselves in one sentence. Well done >>167857064 You must be new if you are offended by this.",,Anonymous,SHALL.png,1q0keoO33C1Jp0LNUXzFzg==,US,,1523554602 167850624,167858397,2018-04-12 17:38:24,">>167858055 >yes it does, because if they can survive in an intelligent society without welfare (according to your hypothesis) then they will mix and destroy iq's and crime rates, and the lives of children. wat",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554704 167850624,167858427,2018-04-12 17:38:39,">>167858169 Alright thanks.... Do you know how to code in Assembly? I've heard it's a complex computer language and I'm relatively new to the subject.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523554719 167850624,167858449,2018-04-12 17:38:52,">>167857785 As someone who has read ""For a New Liberty"", ""Egalitarianism as a Revolt against Nature"", ""The Ethics of Liberty"", ""Democracy - The God that Failed"", and ""The Economics and Ethics of Private Property"" - just to mention the most relevant ones - let me say that you are wrong, and he is right. Both Rothbard and Hoppe took the NAP as prohibiting aggression against property rights, including the right of self-ownership. Self-ownership is established separately form the NAP, and from it, property rights follow and the conditions of their creation and acquisition.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554732 167850624,167858485,2018-04-12 17:39:22,">>167858427 yes. now fuck off retard and bait some /v/ermin on /g/",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554762 167850624,167858538,2018-04-12 17:39:53,">>167857980 >They defend Islam but not white nationalism Not all. Right-wing libertarians don't. Why disavow libertarianism, including right-wing libertarianism, over the stupidity of left-wing libertarianism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554793 167850624,167858655,2018-04-12 17:41:00,">>167850624 I was going to say that time to shit up this thread in the name of nazbol gang, but it seems like this thread is already shit.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523554860 167850624,167858705,2018-04-12 17:41:25,">>167857980 maybe shit on the libertarian statists and become ancap? can't stand those libertarian bootlickers myself",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554885 167850624,167858723,2018-04-12 17:41:30,">>167850624 >all ideologies who up for some oldschool sarmatism?",,Anonymous,Potega_Rzeczypospolitej_u_zenitu_Zlota_wolnosc_Elekcja_1573.jpg,/U8ESc11Lx98Tg4+X2P3Xg==,DE,,1523554890 167850624,167858755,2018-04-12 17:41:49,inb4 leftists show up false flagging as nat soc and try to act like libertarian right wingers are a bigger threat than genocidal leftists,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523554909 167850624,167858769,2018-04-12 17:41:54,">>167857266 >implying I wouldn't keep her functional for the next time I need to orgasm",,Anonymous,ancom-daughterfairshare.jpg,5c7trAELJ2Wr7y4KgbQiBQ==,US,,1523554914 167850624,167858808,2018-04-12 17:42:15,">>167855533 This, the only thing libertarians consistently achieve when in power is lick the boots of international corporations.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523554935 167850624,167858809,2018-04-12 17:42:14,">>167858427 Very few people know how to program in assembly languages. You're better off learning higher level languages. I don't think it really matters which high level language you learn first. Eventually, you want to be able to program in a variety of language.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554934 167850624,167858816,2018-04-12 17:42:18,">>167858723 anarcho sarmatism > anarcho mongolism",,Anonymous,,,,,1523554938 167850624,167858819,2018-04-12 17:42:21,">>167858449 Are you saying NAP is the core principle or not? Because it seems to me like you're saying I'm wrong yet you're saying NAP is not the core.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523554941 167850624,167859052,2018-04-12 17:44:20,">>167858816 that's right, pan anon",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523555060 167850624,167859083,2018-04-12 17:44:36,">>167858819 someone call russia and tell them their property is on the loose again",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555076 167850624,167859115,2018-04-12 17:44:57,">>167858055 I have no idea what you're trying to argue.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555097 167850624,167859319,2018-04-12 17:46:41,">>167850624 Read >>167858535 because if twatter really has had its censorship algo removed, NOW ITS THE TIME TO REDPILL EVERYONE ABOUT EVERYTHING!!! TRY IT WITH A THROW AWAY ACCOUNT FIRST!!!!!!!!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1523555201 167850624,167859400,2018-04-12 17:47:21,">>167859319 fuck off commie",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555241 167850624,167859521,2018-04-12 17:48:14,">>167858808 That caricature is one of the worst I've ever seen, honestly. The artwork is fine, but as a caricature, this picture is bad. Replace the text and the looks of the guy in front and you can just as easily use it for any other ideology. The effect will be exactly the same, zero adjustment required. >>167858819 >Are you saying NAP is the core principle or not? Because it seems to me like you're saying I'm wrong yet you're saying NAP is not the core. Hoppe and Rothbard always took it as a core principle. I think it's reducible to property rights, that's the only reason why I don't say it's a core principle. Again, it doesn't matter. What matters is that notable right-wing libertarians accepted it, and that none of them ever took it out of its proper context.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555294 167850624,167859695,2018-04-12 17:49:44,">>167859521 Do you support pinochet?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523555384 167850624,167859779,2018-04-12 17:50:17,"Korwin the Kang, Korwin the Kang",,Anonymous,korwin kang.jpg,pp04hdSdNhGlEC3qRIGppg==,,,1523555417 167850624,167859804,2018-04-12 17:50:31,">>167859115 i have no idea what you're trying to argue either. lol im just saying if welfare was cut instantly 80% of nogs would die, and that's a good thing for the future of civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523555431 167850624,167859821,2018-04-12 17:50:41,">>167859695 are you fucking retarded? get a rope and hang your useless family",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555441 167850624,167859882,2018-04-12 17:51:11,">>167859779 Korwin the Kang, Korwin the Kang",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555471 167850624,167859896,2018-04-12 17:51:20,">>167851695 >NAP nap is based on tit-for-tat. >. It is also a highly effective strategy in game theory for the iterated prisoner's dilemma. The strategy was first introduced by Anatol Rapoport in Robert Axelrod's two tournaments,[1] held around 1980.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555480 167850624,167859995,2018-04-12 17:51:59,">>167859896 is it a private or a state run prison?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555519 167850624,167860071,2018-04-12 17:52:39,">>167859821 Posts like this are the reason nobody takes ancaps seriously.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523555559 167850624,167860131,2018-04-12 17:53:13,">>167860071 fuck off mongol/eskimo rape baby",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555593 167850624,167860139,2018-04-12 17:53:17,">>167859804 >im just saying if welfare was cut instantly 80% of nogs would die If you believe that, you're delusional.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555597 167850624,167860443,2018-04-12 17:55:42,">>167859995 stop stalking me",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555742 167850624,167860478,2018-04-12 17:56:02,">>167860443 stop stalking me",,Anonymous,,,,,1523555762 167850624,167861311,2018-04-12 18:03:43,">>167855070 >stealing >implying intellectual property is real",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523556223 167850624,167861408,2018-04-12 18:04:45,">>167855555 Nice quints",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523556285 167850624,167862208,2018-04-12 18:11:25,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-07-12.46.23.png,VMPXSTzhnoXQWlxSIkgdlA==,US,,1523556685 167850624,167862684,2018-04-12 18:15:52,">>167862208 You Hoppeans are delusional if you think anybody is gonna want to live in your convenant communities. Most people will continue to live and coexist in pluralistic cities.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523556952 167850624,167863028,2018-04-12 18:18:54,">>167862684 Lmao dude, you've been harassing people in this thread for more than an hour. Go outside, fuck dude. Top zozzle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523557134 167850624,167864013,2018-04-12 18:27:00,,,Anonymous,glitch_art_20180206174010.jpg,uYTeJu9EFBwfzrBlxtUo5g==,US,,1523557620 167850624,167864738,2018-04-12 18:32:52,">>167860139 >If you believe that, you're delusional.",,Anonymous,pursuit of proofs.png,SRIHPUpC2uTmxREfLAcxoA==,US,,1523557972 167850624,167865462,2018-04-12 18:38:54,">>167864738 Where's your proof that 80% of them would die?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523558334 167850624,167865581,2018-04-12 18:39:52,">>167863028 No wonder why you people want to live in homogeneous covenant communities. You people don't want o ever be challenged on your beliefs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523558392 167850624,167865709,2018-04-12 18:40:50,">>167852163 What a pathetic excuse for a human you must be to consider yourself as a pet of the government. May god help you",,Anonymous,,,,,1523558450 167850624,167865849,2018-04-12 18:41:58,">>167864013 Walter Block supports free migration. Would you Hoppeans ""physically remove"" him from your society?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523558518 167850624,167865870,2018-04-12 18:42:08,">>167852163 >Implying your cat wouldn't fuck up any shitskin stray that wandered into your house Are cats the most redpilled pet, or what?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1523558528 167850624,167867491,2018-04-12 18:55:25,weekly reminder of the natural hierarchy on /pol/,,Anonymous,1498300707940.png,YBrGPjKKkUUJR+Tzguu0AA==,DE,,1523559325 167850624,167868576,2018-04-12 19:04:41,>>167867491,,Anonymous,1497790694188.png,q5/Sp+uHz2bgKMF6Fp+/zg==,,,1523559881 167850624,167870270,2018-04-12 19:19:24,how many bitcoins for a tomboy ancap gf?,,Anonymous,ancap gf.gif,uEu/OUA/TRcemDh83/HgaQ==,PT,,1523560764 167850624,167870527,2018-04-12 19:21:49,">>167868576 except there would be legal backing and the bad people won't move out but will be physically removed instead.",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Jonge.jpg,8ednWG3Pv2JyajhIEfClLg==,DE,,1523560909 167850624,167870680,2018-04-12 19:23:01,Come back to freedom white man.,,Anonymous,Liberty-Is-Forever.jpg,7OEsfyVH2c4jHa4HPifrUQ==,,,1523560981 167850624,167870840,2018-04-12 19:24:18,">>167867491 unironically prefer Deus/pol/, Feudalism is underrated",,Anonymous,nu pol flag bearer.png,EU9aV5Vn61oc/WD34H2lDA==,PT,,1523561058 167850624,167870849,2018-04-12 19:24:25,">>167865581 I'm going out, join me in the adventure of life breh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523561065 167850624,167871136,2018-04-12 19:26:43,">>167870840 Who represent whites and the west better, NatSoc/pol/ or Fasci/pol/ ?",,Anonymous,bastiat-quote.jpg,zREj6YZNX3cIky9DX3Jeog==,,,1523561203 167850624,167871171,2018-04-12 19:26:58,">>167870840 Anarcho-Monarchism is where it's at portubro",,Anonymous,AnMon.png,EGc+U/Ky+rZk2GrWPBVcGw==,DE,,1523561218 167850624,167871738,2018-04-12 19:31:37,">>167871136 each country should have its own form of fascism/natsoc to represent it personally natsynd is the best for representing Portugal",,Anonymous,Nacional Sindicalismo.jpg,ui/cp9bzDo0wODFcLz1vkQ==,PT,,1523561497 167850624,167873790,2018-04-12 19:48:52,,,Anonymous,Rothbard Quote.jpg,BPjB7gBIHKdQ/zPqmXN/oA==,US,,1523562532 167850624,167873937,2018-04-12 19:50:05,">>167851238 That one took me a second.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523562605 167850624,167875089,2018-04-12 19:59:41,Any political system that is not ethnonationalist will be hijacked by Jews. They are already rich enough under capitalism so when the reigns of limited government are yanked off under libertarianism they will be absolutely ruthless.,,Anonymous,,,,,1523563181 167850624,167875268,2018-04-12 20:01:07,">>167875089 Government isn't your friend, bucko. It doesn't have your interests, and certainly isn't ""restraining"" anyone. Given the current state of affairs, you're basically claiming these people will restrain themselves.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523563267 167850624,167876255,2018-04-12 20:09:24,">>167875089 > Jews have more power when you take away the leviathan puppet state they use to control us through justified violence and coercion I disagree friend.",,Anonymous,Bastiat-Plunder.jpg,avHwjph77gdRpQx5t2g7DQ==,,,1523563764 167850624,167877924,2018-04-12 20:23:20,Bump,,Anonymous,download_10.jpg,fCCn9eq3xHTbN5Z1rH5NhQ==,US,,1523564600 167850624,167878024,2018-04-12 20:24:13,,,Anonymous,individual_rights.jpg,69TumsHbkPlMj3Zf1+BcAw==,GB,,1523564653 167850624,167878439,2018-04-12 20:28:03,">>167877924 Killing ""nigs"" is against the non-aggression principle.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523564883 167850624,167878570,2018-04-12 20:29:05,>>167878024,,Anonymous,ancap-humanrightssub.jpg,ZkzWF80aAZexwutrtjrh+A==,US,,1523564945 167850624,167879797,2018-04-12 20:41:01,"The problem with libertarianism is it assumes people are on the whole inherently good. When infact society would just degrade into a lawless nightmare with people running around killing and raping. Humans are inherently scum. That's why we need government and a structured, ordered society with laws, rules, values and moral standards imposed while protecting individual freedoms at the same time. Modern governments have taken it way too far and are meddling in things they shouldn't. Like inviting foreing savages into our ancestral homelands without our consent for one. Anyone who wants to live in a truly anarchist/libertarian society without government aren't parents. Or if they are, they're just pedophiles fantasizing about living in a world where they're free to rape their children.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523565661 167850624,167879947,2018-04-12 20:42:33,">>167851695 >>167851695 Nonaggression is a part of, but not the fullness of, morality. Virtue and excellence need to be cultivated, too. ""I don’t punch people for no reason"" isn’t the beginning and end of a decent human life. At the same time, if you reject the NAP, then you're basically an uncivilized savage. >>167852066 Post the real one you nigger.",,Anonymous,24 types of libertarians.jpg,pmEo7ejau7IanmYAsU26Hw==,,,1523565753 167850624,167881085,2018-04-12 20:53:49,">>167879797 Sounds like projection to me,",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523566429 167850624,167881121,2018-04-12 20:54:09,">>167876255 >>167875268 Face it, every libertarian (((intellectual))) is a Jew.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523566449 167850624,167881230,2018-04-12 20:55:07,">>167879797 >>167881085 ... to finish that thought, you're gonna have to prove it. Are some people violent, savage even? Absolutely. I think it's a minority, a society can exist without them. Why do you assume private enforcement can't manage this risk?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523566507 167850624,167881338,2018-04-12 20:56:10,"Hey. Push secession.",,Praceteom,1510275349895.png,+LFu4ROQsvJdrtx+8g7KnQ==,,,1523566570 167850624,167881407,2018-04-12 20:56:41,>>167881121,,Anonymous,1523247430213.png,VgJ3FIHAetF8lXZ3G9hj3Q==,,,1523566601 167850624,167881419,2018-04-12 20:56:50,">>167879797 >The problem with libertarianism is it assumes people are on the whole inherently good Where is that assumption made?",,Praceteom,,,,,1523566610 167850624,167881660,2018-04-12 20:59:10,">>167879797 Then just wipe out the fucking Human race. We either evolve or we devolve into barbarians. There are zero scenarios where you get to tell me what to do either way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523566750 167850624,167881980,2018-04-12 21:02:24,">>167879797 Robert Higgs wrote a response to this idea. >Although I admit that the outcome in a stateless society will be bad, because not only are people not angels, but many of them are irredeemably vicious in the extreme, I conjecture that the outcome in a society under a state will be worse, indeed much worse, because, first, the most vicious people in society will tend to gain control of the state (Hayek 1944, 134-52; Bailey 1988; Higgs 2004, 33-56) and, second, by virtue of this control over the state’s powerful engines of death and destruction, they will wreak vastly more harm than they ever could have caused outside the state (Higgs 2004, 101-05). It is unfortunate that some individuals commit crimes, but it is stunningly worse when such criminally inclined individuals wield state powers. http://www.independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=1982 Oh, wait. Higgs is an open borders libertarian. I reckon Hoppeans want to ""physically remove"" him.",,Anonymous,higgs model.png,Bxwvhvv+GbI7XekZ1w+BKA==,,,1523566944 167850624,167881993,2018-04-12 21:02:30,">>167879797 > The problem with libertarianism is it assumes people are on the whole inherently good. Of course not. This has been addressed as a fatal flaw of statism for decades. > The problem with Facism is it assumes people you consider your tribe are on the whole inherently good. I don't want low IQ white thugs trying to muscle me around on the ground with no understanding of your ideology and descriminating against whites they don't like for all sorts of bullshit reasons, using ""whiteness"" as an excuse to fuck with people just like the Communists used to attack eachother even card carrying party members. I don't trust the state, nor those that seek power nor the grunts on the ground. To trust them would be naive. I don't trust corporations either, I want them to no longer exist because they are state created. I trust incentives.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523566950 167850624,167882209,2018-04-12 21:04:37,">>167881121 >John Locke >Thomas Paine >Frederic Bastiat >Gustave de Molinari >Carl Menger >Böhm Bahwerk >HL Mencken >Hans Hermann Hoppe >Ron Paul >Tom Woods",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523567077 167850624,167882327,2018-04-12 21:05:53,">>167882209 The last vestige of a man with no arguments > jews! I'm all for exposing the elites but this is week form >>167881121 bro.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523567153 167850624,167882768,2018-04-12 21:10:26,">>167882327 I'm listing these guys as examples of people who prove >>167881121 wrong. I'm not agreeing with him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523567426 167850624,167882984,2018-04-12 21:12:19,">>167882209 >Hans Herman Hoppe >intellectual Choose one. Hoppe is neither intellectual or libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523567539 167850624,167883014,2018-04-12 21:12:43,">>167882768 Oh I know, I'm just getting annoyed how every single thread ends up > well some Libertarians were Jews! Hah! It's weak form, it's not an argument and as you point out, there's shit tonnes of Classical Liberals/Anarchists/Ancaps that are not jews. Hell even some of the ""jews"" people mention had Jewish parents but were practising Agnostics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523567563 167850624,167883040,2018-04-12 21:12:54,">>167881980 Interesting argument, I can't say I can disagree with it either. History only shows what happens when monsters gain ultimate power of big state. But how, in a stateless society, could you stop tyranny? In a lawless, stateless society what's to stop the biggest and baddest steamrolling over everyone slaughtering communities and just re-establishing a big state under their dictatorship? That is what would happen, would it not? A society without a state is just a vacuum for the biggest and strongest person to take full control and have an army of followers. I don't know, I think having a structured, ordered society is a must for any kind of civilized world. But as I said before I'm all for more individual, personal freedoms. Surely there's a balance between the two extremes?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523567574 167850624,167883737,2018-04-12 21:20:19,">>167883040 > A society without a state is just a vacuum for the biggest and strongest person It doesn't have to be. Sure in a revolution like a commie one this tends to happen a lot but the details are in the transition itself. For example if you produce alternatives that slowly render the state obsolete until it fades into obscurity (just for arguments sake) there is no vacuum, there is structure and > In a lawless, stateless society what's to stop the biggest and baddest steamrolling over everyone as we like to say no rulers =/= no rules. Molymeme has an interesting article: ""The Stateless Society an examination of alternatives"" and Hoppe's done some work too to go over incentives and more stable structures that are more likely than Somali warlords from a failed communist dictatorship. A lot of work has been put into transitions, the aftermath and how alternatives could look. I do like the ideas of DROs and Credit Rating agencies or David Friedman's private law firms for illustration purposes if nothing else. That different way of thinking and looking about it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523568019 167850624,167883773,2018-04-12 21:20:35,">>167883040 You should check out Etienne de La Boetie's Discourse on Voluntary Servitude. It depends on the overall ideology of the public. If the public perceives the state as criminal and illegitimate and refuses to comply with it, the state would have trouble operating because it's so small relative to the entire population.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523568035 167850624,167883946,2018-04-12 21:22:30,">>167857746 You are not an Anarcho-Capitalist. You're AnCom, if anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523568150 167850624,167884112,2018-04-12 21:24:09,">>167882984 For the love of fuck, enough with the feminine argumentation tactics. Hoppe's written numerous academic works, and he is unquestionably a liberty-minded thinker.",,Anonymous,image-6.jpg,HKD/+rChgaj/XWqqtsSCLQ==,,,1523568249 167850624,167884113,2018-04-12 21:24:10,">>167883946 How am I a communist or a socialist of any kind?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523568250 167850624,167884311,2018-04-12 21:26:13,PROPERTY AND RIGHTS GO TOGETHER LIKE WHITE ON RICE,,TPM,,,,,1523568373 167850624,167884389,2018-04-12 21:27:06,">>167883737 >>167883773 Good info thanks, I'll check La Boetie out in a moment. How would a stateless society remain libertarian? People such as Moslems for examples or low IQ sub-saharans could never function in such a society. They don't have the capability to understand such a concept. Moslems in particular, they exist purely to force you to submit to their ideology and law. How would a libertarian society remain libertarian as aggressive invasive populations grow and want to replace you and impose their ways onto you? Isn't the whole non-aggression and non-interference policy be the thing that's going to kill you and destroy your society?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523568426 167850624,167884761,2018-04-12 21:30:37,">>167884113 You're clearly showing your inner socialist. True ancaps believe in natural law and individualism. You appear to believe in forced multiculturalism and gibsmedats for freeloading blacks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523568637 167850624,167884961,2018-04-12 21:32:34,">>167884389 > How would a stateless society remain libertarian? Personally I think in practice it would be extremely appealing for people to want to run towards, imitate or maintain however multi-generational culture is the ultimate question for any ideology. Libertarian culture needs to be maintained imo because any other culture eventually produces a new political system/aesthetic, like a communist culture, or nationalist one, or muslim one etc. I don't think anyone has a clear cut answer because you just don't know what things will be like 100 years down the track and people have tried, religion, re-education, coercion, public schools etc. As far as incompatible people go I don't know if you agree but I look at it like early days USA, people went there for the freedom and opprtunities and had no other way to survive but to work and assimilate, which they wanted to do to some degree because its why they came unlike these welfare seeking 3rd worlders or their religious zealot counterparts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523568754 167850624,167885072,2018-04-12 21:33:56,">>167884389 >Isn't the whole non-aggression and non-interference policy be the thing that's going to kill you and destroy your society? I don't think an armed, free, property filled American/Australian populace would put up with threatening populations starting shit. If anything they would probably be lynched if they don't follow the ""markets incentivize harmony"" schtick, if they start shit we'll end it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523568836 167850624,167885199,2018-04-12 21:35:12,">>167884761 When did I ever imply that I believe in ""forced multiculturalism"" and ""gibsmedats""?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523568912 167850624,167885330,2018-04-12 21:36:36,"I feel bad for Hoppe. His ""physical removal"" quote isn't even all that violent or fashy, it is actually a very logical conclusion given his stance on private property, but now people just see him as a fascist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523568996 167850624,167886117,2018-04-12 21:44:14,">>167885330 You want to know what else he also meant by it when you hear the explanation and read the book? Not becoming a violent mob that lynches people, but things like.... not offering to renew a rental lease of someone you find out to be a commie/muslim and then when they squat, physically remove them and then invite the right people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523569454 167850624,167886963,2018-04-12 21:52:00,">>167886117 Why do you refer to commies and Muslims? It's not as if white people and Christians are generally libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523569920 167850624,167887675,2018-04-12 21:58:05,">>167886963 It's easy for most people to understand.",,Anonymous,Men-Will-Never-Be-Free-Until-Hoppe.jpg,IKGvoP25fTeU/Ur0k6EZjw==,,,1523570285 167850624,167887958,2018-04-12 22:00:43,">>167887675 >""Hoppe is really libertarian, guys"" >""We need to murder every single democrat and communist""",,Anonymous,,,,,1523570443 167850624,167888284,2018-04-12 22:03:37,>>167887958,,Anonymous,Killing Communists is Ethical.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1523570617 167850624,167889579,2018-04-12 22:15:32,">>167887958 Well what I meant was that the idea of lynching people like a bunch of facists isnt exactly what he meant, the rental example is more along the lines he meant and defense but I understand why'd you'd be turned off by Hoppe. He's definitely not my top 10 anymore, actually I prefer Tucker these days for his historian role.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523571332 167850624,167891589,2018-04-12 22:35:05,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1523572505 167850624,167892249,2018-04-12 22:41:35,,,Anonymous,1473199790834.jpg,7F/1622KTP8mfbUSPQyxTw==,US,,1523572895 167850624,167892600,2018-04-12 22:44:44,">>167850624 the government is the ultimate nigger because it puts a gun to your head and then acts like it dindu nuffin",,Anonymous,1482428983074.jpg,RugizxnzTzeNluydvQGTFw==,,,1523573084 167850624,167892857,2018-04-12 22:47:04,">>167884761 what if the covenant community consents tho",,Anonymous,,,,,1523573224 167850624,167892924,2018-04-12 22:47:50,">>167892600 > threat of violence? > theft? > coercion? > Why yu usin dat dere emotive languijin? > We dindu nuffin, just pay yer taxes so we can haves medicines and bitchumen aaaaand books",,Anonymous,,,,,1523573270 167850624,167892985,2018-04-12 22:48:20,">>167865849 Anyone who promotes equality or egalitarian ideology will be removed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523573300 168108919,168108919,2018-04-14 15:04:11,">Discussion Topic: Airstrike, I guess. Don't suppose anyone posting in this general supports them? If so, why? This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D <--- RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg_picarda.png,5wgXPt6u7wPa1RvYUXb/2A==,GB,,1523718251 168108919,168109124,2018-04-14 15:05:38,">>168108919 Would you support a 2nd amendment in your country?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523718338 168108919,168109132,2018-04-14 15:05:39,">inb4 ""Come home white man""",,Anonymous,download.jpg,/8NkCPUvT36VECLtTddADw==,,,1523718339 168108919,168109214,2018-04-14 15:06:15,,,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,US,,1523718375 168108919,168109218,2018-04-14 15:06:17,">>168109124 If you give people guns, gunlessness will radically decrease.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1523718377 168108919,168109328,2018-04-14 15:07:01,,,Anonymous,Unbridled Capitalism.jpg,aecLa8n5wRGY6qHCigdGvg==,US,,1523718421 168108919,168109354,2018-04-14 15:07:17,">>168109218 Well said",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1523718437 168108919,168109375,2018-04-14 15:07:24,,,Anonymous,Beaver on self-sufficency.png,JPO1Tu6zbvXzMRNxFwAatA==,US,,1523718444 168108919,168109424,2018-04-14 15:07:42,,,Anonymous,What is Fascism.png,Qyq+PpdyKiQn2nIwJQwr2Q==,US,,1523718462 168108919,168109484,2018-04-14 15:08:06,,,Anonymous,Welfare Destroys.png,z6ljrtV3NnCyLNxPVbL/vQ==,US,,1523718486 168108919,168109519,2018-04-14 15:08:23,,,Anonymous,NatSoc.jpg,M+XXBnq+5EjXo/alhs7y4Q==,US,,1523718503 168108919,168109755,2018-04-14 15:10:00,Shills never sleep,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523718600 168108919,168109847,2018-04-14 15:10:36,,,Anonymous,1505979417230.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,DE,,1523718636 168108919,168109900,2018-04-14 15:10:55,,,Anonymous,40b07b83553a803b43049cc4a3fdf85b.jpg,d9BWbz2QZb1NWn3pDuCnYQ==,DE,,1523718655 168108919,168110032,2018-04-14 15:11:55,,,Anonymous,1511912604496.jpg,KVJYANqDjKuNlUv5VSRXEA==,DE,,1523718715 168108919,168110055,2018-04-14 15:12:04,">>168109375 >Self-sufficiency is the key to prosperity Completely retarded. Economics teaches us the exact opposite.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523718724 168108919,168110206,2018-04-14 15:13:15,">>168108919 Right wing libertarianism is the only pragmatic libertarianism because it's the only one that actively protects the values of freedom and liberty. How true would you say that is? I know plenty of center and left libertarians would disagree because it means compromising on some """"""""""true"""""""" libertarian values (open borders, multiculturalism, and gay stuff like that).",,Anonymous,1390786706611.jpg,Ha5+RVdc1ZuiBp9VqrGYpQ==,,,1523718795 168108919,168110235,2018-04-14 15:13:23,,,Anonymous,1516809554185.png,xA/ACAmBiZCsYyUYEk1MRg==,DE,,1523718803 168108919,168110934,2018-04-14 15:18:01,">>168110055 Half of those posts are completely retarded and they are still posted all the time. I don't even bother refuting anymore. This one is pretty accurate though:>>168109484",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523719081 168108919,168111653,2018-04-14 15:22:48,Communists and NeoCons can suck my butt.,,Anonymous,PicsArt_110712.46.23.png,VMPXSTzhnoXQWlxSIkgdlA==,US,,1523719368 168108919,168113466,2018-04-14 15:36:15,">>168109132 dis is bring your benis home edition Time to settle with your people Western Man! Free Private Societies and Physical Removal incl.",,Anonymous,BrivadeBenis.png,OX5WB9A9X9fsK82N4vCqTg==,DE,,1523720175 168108919,168114539,2018-04-14 15:43:48,>>168108919,,Anonymous,64167917-6ABA-4E65-B94A-A44A620E84BE.jpg,H5bk51SMYtnj/PliUKxEFQ==,FR,,1523720628 168108919,168114540,2018-04-14 15:43:48,,,Anonymous,1520872130867.png,sPigEClYZ8nV7gJitqNvIw==,DE,,1523720628 168108919,168114690,2018-04-14 15:44:59,Make Taxation Theft Again,,Anonymous,make-taxation-theft-again.jpg,FrtRauROZ1WLb5D+Qlauug==,,,1523720699 168108919,168115239,2018-04-14 15:49:00,"Ceding judgment to another man, and allowing him to take your shit is really the definition of a cuck. So all statist “men” are cucks. /pol/ is full of cucks then :thinking:",,Anonymous,20800217_1006291812846172_5347310104379916572_n.jpg,0tcaEYh5p+03ydAPpu3epA==,,,1523720940 168108919,168115671,2018-04-14 15:52:10,"What do you think of Bryan Caplan's new book? https://youtu.be/Pa1aMLB0uno",,Anonymous,,,,,1523721130 168108919,168116373,2018-04-14 15:57:13,">>168109214 >You will realise what 'degeneracy' is. Libertarianism is the only philosophy that has a coherent definition of it: degeneracy is whatever keeps you from being self-sufficient. The fact is that identitarians, white nationalists, national socialists, and the lot have no definition of ""degeneracy"" which can be used to test new examples of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523721433 168108919,168117188,2018-04-14 16:03:26,">>168108919 can we privatize water too not just land?",,Anonymous,papa_franku_boatin.png,fwWZD8ltjekVFbfIhn8vgA==,SE,,1523721806 168108919,168117325,2018-04-14 16:04:28,">>168117188 hell yea",,Anonymous,ancap-waifu-5958de6255bca.jpg,lOi5Fm/X3wyRUDu3QhIvTA==,CA,,1523721868 168108919,168117333,2018-04-14 16:04:32,">>168110055 I dont give a shit about someones international bank account. I care about my people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523721872 168108919,168119435,2018-04-14 16:21:49,">>168110055 It's almost as if the quasi religion of economics is wrong.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523722909 168108919,168119785,2018-04-14 16:24:51,">>168117325 Gasses and liquids, and to an extent any matter cannot be properly owned.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523723091 168108919,168119899,2018-04-14 16:25:49,hi guys,,Anonymous,nagatomouse.gif,MJgxbWznvbmYdHfi4RwDjA==,,,1523723149 168108919,168120129,2018-04-14 16:28:05,">>168113466 Hey! that looks like /polder/",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1523723285 168108919,168120363,2018-04-14 16:30:03,Why are you guys such retards? Capitalism and property rights cannot survive without government.,,Anonymous,ancaps.jpg,c1wrOCgPR2seEdnbd5Nc7g==,,,1523723403 168108919,168120456,2018-04-14 16:30:41,">>168110235 european patriots will defend this",,Anonymous,,,,,1523723441 168108919,168120515,2018-04-14 16:31:06,">>168109218 >If you give people guns, gunlessness will radically decrease kek",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1523723466 168108919,168120545,2018-04-14 16:31:23,">>168120363 shouldn't you be somewhere else hanging from a tree?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523723483 168108919,168121136,2018-04-14 16:35:49,">>168120363 lmao okay bud you couldn't survive without eating a dick twice a day yet somehow you get by, it's amazing what human determination can do, eh?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523723749 168108919,168121170,2018-04-14 16:36:06,"youtube.com/user/ShynyHydreigon lads I want a ancap gf",,Anonymous,1523686027811.jpg,98bpWw1Qzf+jGMJteKKjRw==,PT,,1523723766 168108919,168121189,2018-04-14 16:36:13,">>168120363 >Capitalism and property rights cannot survive without government. Except they can as property requires force to be kept in the hands of it's owner. therefore the role, which the government is supposed to fulfill but fails horribly in, namely the defence of personal property by using physical agression against those, thieves, who violate the property rights of an owner of property, will be fulfilled by a variety of ways, depending on the location in question. Examples include: private contractors, volunteer militias, all kinds of other shit that I cannot be bothered to explain to a filthy commie.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1523723773 168108919,168121308,2018-04-14 16:37:08,">>168121170 Holy fuck another one of those edgy fucktards. Don't do this shit any good.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1523723828 168108919,168121373,2018-04-14 16:37:38,">>168121170 >ugly hair",,Anonymous,julie 2.jpg,XZdLSwAqpIm4oTpuXaO7+g==,,,1523723858 168108919,168121473,2018-04-14 16:38:19,">>168121189 >volunteer militias LMAO. Organized crime is much more powerful than any militias that rednecks have managed to scrape up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523723899 168108919,168121747,2018-04-14 16:40:18,">>168121473 That's why the sheriffs used to get armies to deal with fugitives instead of assembling a militia of armed locals. Can you meme yourself a bit harder?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523724018 168108919,168121810,2018-04-14 16:40:46,>>168108919,,Anonymous,1512533934904.png,s6/Ay5AhdpyIRVNmnyn0fQ==,US,,1523724046 168108919,168121953,2018-04-14 16:41:52,">>168121373 >ugly face srsly she looks like a dude",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523724112 168108919,168122052,2018-04-14 16:42:34,">>168121473 >being this out of touch with reality A government can't do fuck all against an armed population.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523724154 168108919,168122069,2018-04-14 16:42:43,">>168121810 I can at least agree that AnCaps are much better than Nazis.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523724163 168108919,168122079,2018-04-14 16:42:45,">>168108919 Im all for the strikes, because it's a logical move based on the past pic-related",,Anonymous,WACO_MEME.jpg,vZx5JbkTsXGnmz2JFLI9rA==,US,,1523724165 168108919,168122103,2018-04-14 16:42:54,">>168121747 >Tfw the sheriff is a government, but it's okay because we call it by a different name",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523724174 168108919,168122119,2018-04-14 16:43:02,">>168121953 everyone with such a haircut needs to be removed from society as a preemptive measure",,Anonymous,,,,,1523724182 168108919,168122295,2018-04-14 16:44:17,,,Anonymous,BasedEconomistPanel.jpg,RL3sVYn348ULfBhahvbqnQ==,,,1523724257 168108919,168122329,2018-04-14 16:44:32,">>168122103 The militias weren't. And if a dude in a town helps people with crime and is not funded through taxation, he could be considered a sheriff, but would not be statist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523724272 168108919,168122431,2018-04-14 16:45:14,">>168120363 This graphic has never made sense. If the employees were paid 100% the value of their labor, what’s left to keep the business running?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523724314 168108919,168122624,2018-04-14 16:46:43,">>168122431 nothing, the business fails, starvation ensues, not-real-socialist utopia commences",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523724403 168108919,168122652,2018-04-14 16:46:54,">>168122431 wrong question value is subjective they are paid what the customer is willing to pay for whatever they produce, minus the cost of running the business. This applies to CEOs as much as it does to common laborers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523724414 168108919,168122812,2018-04-14 16:48:02,">>168121373 don't be rude to the ancap tomboy pls youtube.com/watch?v=Hu7Mzs1qRMs",,Anonymous,1523686492182.gif,uEu/OUA/TRcemDh83/HgaQ==,PT,,1523724482 168108919,168123320,2018-04-14 16:51:49,">>168122812 she looks complete crazy and probably would drive you insane as a gf but respect to show up with an ancap flag infront of of a human garbage protest >I wish I had an ancap gf liek pic related",,Anonymous,ancap chan autistic version needs protection.jpg,vVZTZJ2D5T6cJrnXH7ZmIQ==,,,1523724709 168108919,168123661,2018-04-14 16:54:41,">>168122812 We live in the same state. We were in the same FB group at one point. I want to marry her.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523724881 168108919,168124766,2018-04-14 17:03:59,">>168122812 that guy in the video, wtf. >the government getting involved in the economy is not socialism this is next level cognitive dissonance.",,Anonymous,1397764914933.gif,zaNiEg32+Lruk+QOHOBSKQ==,,,1523725439 168108919,168125484,2018-04-14 17:10:11,">libertarian >right",,Anonymous,IMG_0524.jpg,mKi1rf4kHYBKIe14VKBXWg==,NL,,1523725811 168108919,168125601,2018-04-14 17:11:12,">>168125484 >he says this, while posting a pic of an ex-marxist",,Anonymous,,,,,1523725872 168108919,168125814,2018-04-14 17:12:51,">>168123661 maybe she is just browsing this thread at the moment anon and blushes while reading your post.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523725971 168108919,168126337,2018-04-14 17:17:07,">>168117333 Your people will be wealthier if they traded what they can produce a surplus of in exchange for what they want/need. Depending on the situation you want a balance, but giving up on trade all together is retarded. Also trade has little to do with banking. >>168120363 >surplus value I bet you don't even know how profits are calculated in accounting or what it even is, so you can go fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523726227 168108919,168126425,2018-04-14 17:17:49,God bless hot asian ancaps.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523726269 168108919,168126486,2018-04-14 17:18:16,">>168126425 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5hcpS0-J4s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523726296 168108919,168126510,2018-04-14 17:18:28,>>168126425,,Anonymous,bring your dick.jpg,b37u+9nORDVavXGIWPNjEQ==,,,1523726308 168108919,168128078,2018-04-14 17:31:44,">>168109214 >We believed in the good of humanity >You realize what degeneracy is >No more can we decide for our selves. I don't think any kind of libertarian ideology cares about the ""good of humanity"" or ""common good"" because those values can only be enforced by authority. Nothing about libertarian-ism (except the American Libertarian Party's weird interpretation of it) is pro degeneracy. If anything it is against it. Things such as tax codes, giving tax breaks to single mothers, affirmative action for non-whites, socialized healthcare for those who refuse to take care of their bodies, bailouts for bad businesses, and welfare covering those who refuse to work. Are all enforced by the government and help spread degeneracy. If removal of the gov indeed would not stop single mother hood, homosexuality, race mixing, obesity, or vice. But the incentives to do it would be reduced, and people would have to be able to compensate their degeneracy using their own means. Not being allowed to decide things for our selves have led to things such as this recent air strike in Syria, the refuge crisis, the stopping of Brexit, and of course getting drafted into pointless wars with no benefit in fighting like Vietnam. The world needs libertarian-ism more than ever. Doing so would reduce degeneracy, stop pointless wars, and stop the EU from becoming the USSR 2.0.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523727104 168108919,168129900,2018-04-14 17:48:43,">>168108919 What do you guys think of the Jewish involvement in your ideology?",,Anonymous,1513037280940.jpg,EtGWLTjpP76BxckulCP5ow==,,,1523728123 168108919,168130273,2018-04-14 17:51:57,">>168129900 what do you think of otto (((weininger)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1523728317 168108919,168130769,2018-04-14 17:56:37,">>168130273 >The true concept of the State is foreign to the Jew, because he, like the woman, is wanting in personality; his failure to grasp the idea of true society is due to his lack of free intelligible ego. Like women, Jews tend to adhere together, but they do not associate as free independent individuals mutually respecting each other's individuality. One of the few kikes who told the truth.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523728597 168108919,168131033,2018-04-14 17:59:09,">>168130769 >One of the few kikes who told the truth indeed",,Anonymous,,,,,1523728749 168261114,168261114,2018-04-15 17:28:40,">Discussion Topic: On the Asphalt Jews and Their Lies GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHo-3LEcgQE THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Seige (James Mason) - https://www.fbi.gov/ FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Big Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=PJhWNQ5ckyU >S.O.O. - youtu.be/oIojr6jRSVg?t=30s >Don't Tread on Me - youtube.com/watch?v=NmvG2ZiPfoo",/lrg/ - Libertarian Right General - Don't Thread On Me Edition,Anonymous,pol ron paul logo.png,zBI8ZxOwiUPbQGw6x+6h9Q==,SK,,1523813320 168261114,168261573,2018-04-15 17:32:39,Friendly reminder that America would have been AnCap if it was a thing back in the late 1700s. Most of the Founding Fathers hated government.,,Anonymous,Murica.jpg,dZoxGNHUISFlLfNiZWryvw==,US,,1523813559 168261114,168261808,2018-04-15 17:34:47,"Some Road-esian tunes for y'all youtu.be/g50x-hFmPPA youtube.com/watch?v=YHZ67FuBbyo youtube.com/watch?v=RFimfcIRGj8 Zimbabwean currency is what is going to happen to YOUR country next if you don't get rid of your central bank and go back to the gold standard.",,Anonymous,rhodesia vs zimbabwe.jpg,KD+9v4ZF3XsfKEKT16dfCw==,SK,,1523813687 168261114,168261998,2018-04-15 17:36:34,">>168261573 right on brother",,Anonymous,freedom as a virtue.jpg,gtc+6M3dhjz+pE0oaPMXmQ==,SK,,1523813794 168261114,168262520,2018-04-15 17:41:16,"brew yourselves a nice cup of tea, fellas it's another episode of everybody on the server being a faggot so we have no choice but to either wait for the shills to arrive or for our thread to die shamefully where's the toothpastenigger when you need him most",,Anonymous,george evola.png,MaS+m91owtWS6hRCaRYIOw==,SK,,1523814076 168261114,168264390,2018-04-15 17:56:58,God bless lrg,,Anonymous,pepe_changemymind_pinochet.jpg,SQiSmonXy5RookNCpU50pw==,US,,1523815018 168261114,168265432,2018-04-15 18:05:25,>not being libertarian left,,Anonymous,wow.jpg,fh0PRObTI+7wao6e82GMag==,US,,1523815525 168261114,168265586,2018-04-15 18:06:50,">>168265432 No thank you, I don't like my anal sphincter being ravaged from the wrong side no less.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1523815610 168261114,168267246,2018-04-15 18:21:06,>>168261114,,Anonymous,20C8F576-B9EC-4A51-BD97-0DB251F7E653.png,JqJ7s3j3E1WaPO5qn/PT6A==,US,,1523816466 168261114,168267913,2018-04-15 18:27:12,">>168265586 youll gladly let the 1% rape it though?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523816832 168261114,168269157,2018-04-15 18:38:09,Lets talk about National Capitalism.,,Anonymous,1489556388715.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,US,,1523817489 168261114,168270729,2018-04-15 18:51:46,state roads are for Nazis and homeless people,,Anonymous,1494021235560.png,sWeSnkTpG/Fa1xdi/74OwQ==,,,1523818306 168261114,168270966,2018-04-15 18:53:50,Do you know what makes this general just so damn funny to me? Watching a bunch of grasps at straws that don’t even exist any more. Sad!,,Anonymous,,,,,1523818430 168261114,168270969,2018-04-15 18:53:54,"Lolbergism is for idiots. Low IQ shitskins will NEVER want to compete in a libertarian society, your ideals could only work in principle in a homogeneous high IQ ethnostate. Even if you see a libertarian society as a good end, there's no way to get there but through a National Socialist led genocide of undesirables.",,Anonymous,soon.jpg,PmSEemxADcS+GkQiAkkcGA==,US,,1523818434 168261114,168271506,2018-04-15 18:58:26,">>168270969 Heil Hitler!",,Anonymous,,,,,1523818706 168261114,168271725,2018-04-15 19:00:24,">>168269157 >fasces >lolbertarian ancap flag >gadsgen snake AHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You wish the fasces was your symbol you fucking retards",,Anonymous,,,,,1523818824 168261114,168271770,2018-04-15 19:00:50,">>168270969 who needs a stinky genocide when you can have physical removal?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523818850 168261114,168272002,2018-04-15 19:02:34,,,Anonymous,1509024866248.jpg,/iLlOsxnbNsm7DGzCxwDTA==,,,1523818954 168261114,168272056,2018-04-15 19:02:57,,,Anonymous,1516440414096.png,DbFNwx6+pT5l5kjq5a/2Nw==,,,1523818977 168261114,168272090,2018-04-15 19:03:13,,,Anonymous,1492808326442.png,/0TtnEAlGqnPb6sraXpE4Q==,,,1523818993 168261114,168272133,2018-04-15 19:03:30,>>168271770,,Anonymous,1507242450560.jpg,T2nLB/yI/C3MCbu6fpicNQ==,,,1523819010 168261114,168272174,2018-04-15 19:03:49,>>168265432,,Anonymous,1509901485770.png,2yXYAMuWPqWmNxO/INfadw==,,,1523819029 168261114,168272204,2018-04-15 19:04:02,,,Anonymous,fuck the NAP.png,hbnNZJGZJhdlbz/gg1HluQ==,US,,1523819042 168261114,168272233,2018-04-15 19:04:18,>>168269157,,Anonymous,1510563994994.png,4K0BfS9YFwV1BxXjHQOaLQ==,,,1523819058 168261114,168272331,2018-04-15 19:05:02,>>168270729,,Anonymous,1505505027227.png,cVUdpRR34ucRei0BESXvsQ==,,,1523819102 168261114,168272471,2018-04-15 19:06:08,>>168262520,,Anonymous,1494903736443.jpg,MwoScUMw7MePykb1AfCBFQ==,,,1523819168 168261114,168272516,2018-04-15 19:06:32,,,Anonymous,1506761552718.jpg,aHhXnvarHk0xA3Z5Vp0hPQ==,,,1523819192 168261114,168272858,2018-04-15 19:09:06,,,Anonymous,f0679ecafd1e4057908b1ec8178cf7f88a2fbcbde60d137423163b657d32b8e7.jpg,3mXwhEMSFlK7G6DGeH03Uw==,US,,1523819346 168261114,168272955,2018-04-15 19:10:02,">>168272002 >tfw Societies actually collapsed because of Socialism and conflict >>168272056 >associating the Libertarian Party with lrg what sort of crack are you smoking nigger? eD0em8is I guess you are that retarded chink from discord. You dense faggot, the spam never ends, eh?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523819402 168261114,168273068,2018-04-15 19:11:04,>>168272955,,Anonymous,1499161134296.png,BCuuxyz/alSiFExpM5jP9A==,,,1523819464 168261114,168273454,2018-04-15 19:14:19,">>168272955 >Discord If anyone actually uses Discord they should splatter their brains across their bedroom wall.",,Anonymous,090f0b5f62b7912413eefab25ed6e6580f579a68a6325474187593cd5041b63c.gif,6ofUD/oFP6VVrhn0K+qkQw==,US,,1523819659 168261114,168273962,2018-04-15 19:18:43,">>168273068 thx for the verification you squinting brainlet",,Anonymous,virgin_neetsock_vs_chad_lrg.png,leqeMb0KkaK0WzvYFTInkg==,,,1523819923 168261114,168274188,2018-04-15 19:20:34,">>168273962 You have no idea who's actually fucking with you do you?",,Anonymous,1151365103429.jpg,jwuMYvMi8m7WV2bFRQgnOg==,US,,1523820034 168261114,168274302,2018-04-15 19:21:35,"Friendly reminder: libertarianism is judaism and judaism is communism and satanism",,Anonymous,lolbergism.png,ITASARfVRyd2ovLxS/0pwg==,,,1523820095 168261114,168274569,2018-04-15 19:24:00,"reminder the Roman Republic was the closest we ever got to Ancapistan reminder it was also the height of western civilization",,Anonymous,ancap rome.png,5p6TUUIxJMX+KJ+j5E2WnA==,PT,,1523820240 168261114,168274779,2018-04-15 19:25:58,reminder that lolbertarianism is basic bitch shit,,Anonymous,1497035281562.jpg,g+OCy/KB6qDv53vi/kexLQ==,,,1523820358 170340154,170340154,2018-05-03 17:13:34,"Can't wait for the stormtards to fuck this thread up with their shitposting and non-arguments again. /lrg/ is for the discussion of the libertarian right and all that crap. You don't need an intro, just get in with it.",/lrg/ - libertarian right general,Anonymous,cfe3d7ae7c5c1845f7a29a60b2026d7fc55372391e5d5aabebc28c38644c1a6c.png,5PnvB9T9j861lvA7of/Few==,GB,,1525367614 170340154,170340417,2018-05-03 17:15:56,">>170340154 >libertarian right >not letting the left-libertarians in Rude",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525367756 170340154,170340474,2018-05-03 17:16:31,">>170340154 >Britflag poster. Trying to start WW3 I see, but I guess it's better than being completely ignored becuase your kike ass tired to put on a meme flag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525367791 170340154,170340476,2018-05-03 17:16:33,">>170340154 Saged... Now go fuck off and quit sliding.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525367793 170340154,170340568,2018-05-03 17:17:29,">>170340476 t.stormfag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525367849 170340154,170340575,2018-05-03 17:17:34,">>170340178 so are the natsocs/every other extreme position this board facilitates i fail to see your point",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525367854 170340154,170340780,2018-05-03 17:19:38,">>170340154 >>170340575 I'm honestly just eating popcorn around you faggots at this point waiting for your arguments to cave in on the normies.",,Anonymous,1520700354052.png,TBhDn1EQQsY01WYbeWUkVg==,US,,1525367978 170340154,170340802,2018-05-03 17:19:49,">>170340154 >he's not an ordoliberal",,Anonymous,tmp_6579-1480757818205-1021170686.jpg,cQvew+LF5M6Umbsoq6zDVQ==,US,,1525367989 170340154,170340981,2018-05-03 17:21:39,">>170340568 >Anyone I disagree with must be stormfags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368099 170340154,170340992,2018-05-03 17:21:44,I cant wait to get a 12 year old slave,,Anonymous,,,,,1525368104 170340154,170341065,2018-05-03 17:22:24,">>170340780 the person that made this thread is probably a retard but nonintervention is objectively just a better govt. position economically/ethically i'm not going out of my way to say i'm 'anti-authoritarian' you guys are just wrong",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525368144 170340154,170341195,2018-05-03 17:23:28,">>170340575 >Natsoc's must have done the dame that bongs are doing. Jesus christ fuck off you newfags",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368208 170340154,170341303,2018-05-03 17:24:25,">>170341065 >Only my ideology is ri- >Imports more mudslimes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368265 170340154,170341325,2018-05-03 17:24:37,">>170340981 Most people talking about sliding are stormfags.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368277 170340154,170341337,2018-05-03 17:24:41,">>170341195 that's not what i said you literal mongrel",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525368281 170340154,170341405,2018-05-03 17:25:10,libertyyy for all ahaha :-DD,,Anonymous,b57.png,hoXh81xiw+1C2tI2ONMhdA==,,,1525368310 170340154,170341422,2018-05-03 17:25:20,">>170341303 good bait",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525368320 170340154,170341459,2018-05-03 17:25:46,">>170341065 >the person that made this thread is probably a retard Cheers, lad. I'm just tired and Apathetic.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525368346 170340154,170341485,2018-05-03 17:26:00,">>170340154 (((Nanny State Socialism))) is for beta fags who require a government to help them find an Arian waifu. >inb4 pic related “was already debunked”",,Anonymous,98244B45-3511-408D-BDA9-B64F8A323295.jpg,hFdQL+hZmNCrGasQg91f7w==,US,,1525368360 170340154,170341584,2018-05-03 17:27:03,">>170341485 Yes thats why based pinochet is better :-DDD helicopter rides!",,Anonymous,,,,,1525368423 170340154,170341626,2018-05-03 17:27:24,">>170340476 t. Shillomo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368444 170340154,170341627,2018-05-03 17:27:24,">>170340154 Wir müssen die Jüden ausrotten",,Anonymous,FB8E8590-39B2-4E63-9B27-047028F86804.png,9GcfZMKltxFjJGMfQIZooQ==,US,,1525368444 170340154,170341665,2018-05-03 17:27:48,">>170340154 Weak attempt to divide us. Saged.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525368468 170340154,170341681,2018-05-03 17:27:53,">>170341485 not really an argument considering 2 of those are the state fucking up and killing their own people and 1 is the state being so alpha they killed everyone else",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525368473 170340154,170341744,2018-05-03 17:28:25,">>170341627 kek",,Anonymous,16554E30-BDB4-4F3D-9605-C31C56E71146.jpg,DUuyKjvaU619g+Pyj/aHdQ==,US,,1525368505 170340154,170341749,2018-05-03 17:28:28,">>170341665 ditto",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525368508 170340154,170341774,2018-05-03 17:28:44,">>170340417 Left-libertarianism is an oxymoron.",,Anonymous,antifa-anti-racist-anti-nazi-d0010438163.png,4RrdQFQHP/yr5aa2h7SUUw==,,,1525368524 170340154,170341923,2018-05-03 17:30:03,">>170340417 >>170341774 can we just call each other ""centrists""? Both sides suck",,Anonymous,,,,,1525368603 170340154,170341929,2018-05-03 17:30:09,">>170341774 Freedom from capitalism (although I don't agree with the idea). They came up with the term first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368609 170340154,170341934,2018-05-03 17:30:12,">>170341774 based",,Anonymous,1525382953342.png,JnIb2WjV/FKXLlippE83xA==,,,1525368612 170340154,170342037,2018-05-03 17:31:15,">>170341665 >divisive Yes, SJWs and Stormfags are divisive faggots infatuated with identitariansism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368675 170340154,170342138,2018-05-03 17:32:17,">>170341485 >Lel germany kileld pepel. >Brits used the invasion of poland to cause world war 2 >Not realizing the ideology brought a economic reform with higher living standards >dont mind winston churchill and other countries killing people on a war.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368737 170340154,170342205,2018-05-03 17:32:54,">>170341744 >Yet the person in germany was born in 1954. What is with the disinformation shills lately.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368774 170340154,170342271,2018-05-03 17:33:27,">>170341923 >Muh horsshu thury. Out of this board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368807 170340154,170342334,2018-05-03 17:34:04,">>170342037 >Anyone who have different ideologies must be sturmfags and sjw's.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525368844 170340154,170342570,2018-05-03 17:36:32,Hail freedom :-DD,,Anonymous,170.png,8NDCeT6kl0Srx5AV1KZDJA==,,,1525368992 170340154,170342607,2018-05-03 17:36:55,">>170342138 That’s all true. Hitler cucked his own people so that the Ethno State of Israel could be formed.",,Anonymous,9FCF2B3F-101E-42D8-838C-D55C97896ED6.jpg,h2s4FCGBDgNUvv4QAPVAkg==,US,,1525369015 170340154,170342698,2018-05-03 17:37:37,">>170342271 >muh muh hosshu thury Its a fucking circle dumbass. Stormfags and lefties are the same thing. Replace jews with russians and you'll find exactly zero differences between them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525369057 170340154,170342767,2018-05-03 17:38:16,Yes finally,,Anonymous,1492547495285.png,EBZaiO53r1wbYG2QljBTtg==,US,,1525369096 170340154,170342780,2018-05-03 17:38:24,,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369104 170340154,170342781,2018-05-03 17:38:24,>>170340154,,Anonymous,152297641676942.png,3MsCuTF7qBvcc/qWVxSuIg==,,,1525369104 170340154,170342859,2018-05-03 17:39:05,,,Anonymous,1504141250016.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,,,1525369145 170340154,170342878,2018-05-03 17:39:15,">>170342607 Let me guess you grabbed this information from jtl.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369155 170340154,170342892,2018-05-03 17:39:24,,,Anonymous,1504485988687.jpg,eXgjtzwuPvHc71y3zC2rSQ==,,,1525369164 170340154,170342925,2018-05-03 17:39:42,,,Anonymous,1.png,eW6Up28vL6Cq2V94Rj9hgw==,,,1525369182 170340154,170342954,2018-05-03 17:39:59,,,Anonymous,2.png,92sHUIsUgo/ccF5fNzBK6A==,,,1525369199 170340154,170342955,2018-05-03 17:39:59,">>170342781 >he thinks these are bad things",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369199 170340154,170342961,2018-05-03 17:40:04,">>170342859 Give me 10 year old fug slave for 5 dollars :DDD",,Anonymous,,,,,1525369204 170340154,170342984,2018-05-03 17:40:16,,,Anonymous,3.png,o3EfnmRgmEMm1QQKdg0HXg==,,,1525369216 170340154,170342992,2018-05-03 17:40:20,">>170342698 >/pol/ and /new/ who supports natsoc are the same as the left! Fuck off reddit, memeflags were a mistake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369220 170340154,170343013,2018-05-03 17:40:33,,,Anonymous,4.png,off7UYQx3gX8zvE4hnzfnA==,,,1525369233 170340154,170343036,2018-05-03 17:40:49,,,Anonymous,5.jpg,S2UkFllarIeg9kdwJFTKwQ==,,,1525369249 170340154,170343065,2018-05-03 17:41:05,">>170342955 Explain why they aren't",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369265 170340154,170343066,2018-05-03 17:41:06,,,Anonymous,6.jpg,8zzzEvP4YagF84aEF32chw==,,,1525369266 170340154,170343108,2018-05-03 17:41:22,,,Anonymous,7.jpg,tW53IkfUW3M86X3fAbJZlQ==,,,1525369282 170340154,170343132,2018-05-03 17:41:35,">>170341303 "". . . while someone can migrate from one place to another without anyone else wanting him to do so, goods and services cannot be shipped from place to place unless both sender and receiver agree. Trivial as this distinction may appear, it has momentous consequences. For free in conjunction with trade then means trade by invitation of private households and firms only; and restricted trade does not mean protection of households and firms from uninvited goods or services, but invasion and abrogation of the right of private households and firms to extend or deny invitations to their own property. In contrast, free in conjunction with immigration does not mean immigration by invitation of individual households and firms, but unwanted invasion or forced integration; and restricted immigration actually means, or at least can mean, the protection of private households and firms from unwanted invasion and forced integration. Hence, in advocating free trade and restricted immigration, one follows the same principle: requiring an invitation for people as for goods and services."" Hans-Hermann Hoppe The Case for Free Trade and Restricted Immigration Journal of Libertarian Studies 13:2, Summer 1998",,Anonymous,5bc.png,dUf84NNi8zTtOlmyO6VqSQ==,,,1525369295 170340154,170343136,2018-05-03 17:41:38,,,Anonymous,8.jpg,obbpqYkY9/WLjGIYOJCu6A==,,,1525369298 170340154,170343172,2018-05-03 17:41:57,,,Anonymous,8.png,JEAunFQBHiBL5XZjjoqmDQ==,,,1525369317 170340154,170343199,2018-05-03 17:42:13,">>170343036 >>170343013 Le ebic memes baseddd ancap :DDDD",,Anonymous,,,,,1525369333 170340154,170343267,2018-05-03 17:42:46,>>170343199,,Anonymous,1495888842050.jpg,I/ylxYFfG6+DY3yInQLI5Q==,,,1525369366 170340154,170343306,2018-05-03 17:43:09,">>170343172 >>170343136 Don't bury my documentary in a bunch of fucking Facebook-tier memes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369389 170340154,170343312,2018-05-03 17:43:12,,,Anonymous,1522354864732.jpg,iQ8gOCw4V1uha3i5KMSBXw==,,,1525369392 170340154,170343376,2018-05-03 17:43:39,,,Anonymous,statism.png,TOCzjwlcZNbtZsQia9Nvtg==,,,1525369419 170340154,170343378,2018-05-03 17:43:40,">>170343065 Regulations prevent corporations from fucking over workers, income taxes help the government provide us with infrastructure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369420 170340154,170343415,2018-05-03 17:43:59,,,Anonymous,15241286697.png,MxD6ymeN9xNqqS3AaecUFA==,,,1525369439 170340154,170343439,2018-05-03 17:44:14,">>170343132 >Invitation is guud for my shekels goy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369454 170340154,170343477,2018-05-03 17:44:34,,,Anonymous,1483331283436.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,,,1525369474 170340154,170343520,2018-05-03 17:44:57,,,Anonymous,1470615592072.jpg,zbiOyVqKPUIkwB46Vwxh8Q==,,,1525369497 170340154,170343576,2018-05-03 17:45:28,">>170342984 Give me source for Mises quote. I want to know why he thought that.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1525369528 170340154,170343578,2018-05-03 17:45:29,">>170343378 Massive corporations exist because of the government, infrastructure could easily be provided purely by the market.",,Anonymous,hans_herman_hoppe_the_nonaggressing_physically_removing_god.jpg,KWL1SmgmvwsNxUeCLbcgyA==,US,,1525369529 170340154,170343625,2018-05-03 17:45:52,,,Anonymous,1483332279503.jpg,8UsyEh9eADzAbrThsYR8Kw==,,,1525369552 170340154,170343703,2018-05-03 17:46:32,">>170343378 Government was providing infrastructure before income taxes, incidentally, modern infrastructure with income tax is shit Workers are always free to start their own business or work for someone who will treat them fairly. It's only under a state regulation enforced monopoly where workers suffer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369592 170340154,170343726,2018-05-03 17:46:46,,,Anonymous,1483335305502.jpg,btAtNKcgpkAVdbHnz+Nk4g==,,,1525369606 170340154,170343753,2018-05-03 17:47:04,,,Anonymous,1493219993192.png,KoyJaABfALcdIAn08dKPaQ==,,,1525369624 170340154,170343828,2018-05-03 17:47:42,,,Anonymous,1525145518155.jpg,6kdLYe0cUH+YwD8UBHGDVg==,,,1525369662 170340154,170343874,2018-05-03 17:48:11,,,Anonymous,17.jpg,7oalXA5w7QBM0+uYTScuCA==,US,,1525369691 170340154,170343887,2018-05-03 17:48:19,">>170343439 Let us know when there's a mass-invitation crisis in Europe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525369699 170340154,170343928,2018-05-03 17:48:40,,,Anonymous,1483332205434.jpg,pnXke+VVbSZEDHsqF4+23g==,,,1525369720 170340154,170344211,2018-05-03 17:51:14,">>170343874 >implying desire for a strong, overbearing parent state isn't a sign of weak men",,Anonymous,9PrWEvN.gif,MomYgOG4t374W5+DBDsqNQ==,US,,1525369874 170340154,170344311,2018-05-03 17:52:18,">>170343726 >siding with Nazis ever Fuck off",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525369938 170340154,170344412,2018-05-03 17:53:13,">>170343726 >going to a socialist for their infrastructure",,Anonymous,1496083092511.jpg,S0tJ8v/oFZvIIInz36cjCw==,US,,1525369993 170340154,170344487,2018-05-03 17:53:49,"The libertarian-left believes in limiting the power of the corporation and the government, this is a humble and sensible desire on paper, but in actuality, when limiting the power of the business through the means of taxation and private restrictions, you end up giving the government more power, thus left-libertarianism is impossible, this would obviously be different in a left anarchist society, since business and government would both be abolished, but the point of moderate government and business is impossible.",,Anonymous,1502692859658.png,7lEu6FUmgoN9hkJm2c3BFQ==,,,1525370029 170340154,170344509,2018-05-03 17:54:00,">>170344211 Which is why weak men follow the creation of a nanny state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525370040 170340154,170344511,2018-05-03 17:54:00,It's been far too long,,Anonymous,M e n g e r w a v e.jpg,Szzn2wwkfAsHx6Vh7YQJ1g==,US,,1525370040 170340154,170344580,2018-05-03 17:54:33,">>170344211 Libertarian and Ancap would be classified as utopia,in other words good times.",,Anonymous,DQmeTJhSUzqFJgNn2S5kd6pyzXxTFNfjMZcm7C1Gw9hCCbn.jpg,OAviJ//d7YlR5gd4huDdLA==,,,1525370073 170340154,170344612,2018-05-03 17:54:54,">>170344311 Fashies are friends until the left is defeated.",,Anonymous,hoppewave3.jpg,0ane1WCOvx+kHADZlGE9BQ==,,,1525370094 170340154,170344701,2018-05-03 17:55:28,">>170344580 they are not utopian you fucking imbecile nigger lover.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370128 170340154,170344777,2018-05-03 17:56:10,">>170344701 They are utopian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370170 170340154,170344850,2018-05-03 17:56:43,">>170344701 Oh then,lets not have them. :DD",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370203 170340154,170344896,2018-05-03 17:57:04,">>170341923 >Not understanding what right wing principles actually are The only libertarianism is right wing. Left wing lib isn't a real thing unless you envisage a small hippy commune. Normal right wing principles are libertarianism Other things on the right side of the compass aren't really right wing. Like neocons and other authoritarians - they are just authoritarian and shouldn't be on the ""right side"" of the compass.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370224 170340154,170345031,2018-05-03 17:58:06,">>170344701 This is why we call it a meme flag, your ideology is a Goddamn joke. You want to make it into an entire thread becuase a few people play along.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525370286 170340154,170345114,2018-05-03 17:58:43,,,Anonymous,20180407_234944.png,CCWUIFlOrVC/WA4TYpp2Pg==,US,,1525370323 170340154,170345152,2018-05-03 17:59:05,">>170344580 No it wouldn't. The entire premise of Libertarianism/ancaps is mitigating the destructive aspects of the natural world. Libertarian left would be the better representative of irresponsible behavior leading to ruin. Shift all those on the political compass one clockwise once, and you'll have the truth.",,Anonymous,1520377586206.png,WRoQTwPfyQhX2O2WOYg/PA==,US,,1525370345 170340154,170345169,2018-05-03 17:59:13,">>170344612 They are never friends. Ancaps must seek economic, social, and cultural liberalism, free of any intervention by others.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525370353 170340154,170345326,2018-05-03 18:00:25,">>170344777 >They are utopian. no, adherence the scientific method is not Utopian. it is rationality. >>170344850 wrong. >>170345031 it is not my ideology, it is the adherence to the scientific method.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370425 170340154,170345356,2018-05-03 18:00:38,"So the state is required for police, military and judiciary. How is this funded in the libertarian world?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525370438 170340154,170345372,2018-05-03 18:00:46,">>170345031 >things are true because I say they are",,Anonymous,1501274178279.gif,Cka4GH3L9He47KSPGlpWjw==,US,,1525370446 170340154,170345395,2018-05-03 18:00:57,">>170345152 if they are not utopian then time to seek for a better ideology then :DDD",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370457 170340154,170345428,2018-05-03 18:01:18,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1525370478 170340154,170345499,2018-05-03 18:01:56,">>170345356 All privatized. Pay for the service when you need it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370516 170340154,170345536,2018-05-03 18:02:12,,,Anonymous,,,,,1525370532 170340154,170345558,2018-05-03 18:02:25,"this is why ancap threads will never be productive. people's mind's are so engraved with the curse of critical marxist theory they would rather squabble over small definitions than become better men and women and network.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370545 170340154,170345586,2018-05-03 18:02:39,">>170345499 I thought this was libertarian and not ancap",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525370559 170340154,170345595,2018-05-03 18:02:43,">>170345372 >>170345326 That's fucking right, I'd like to see you call me a faggot ten times over instead of being roped into a kike mistake.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525370563 170340154,170345661,2018-05-03 18:03:19,">>170345395 Is the implication that anything not utopian is not worth pursuing? You know what ""Utopia"" means, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525370599 170340154,170345756,2018-05-03 18:04:06,">>170345536 >Keynesianism Based",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525370646 170340154,170345775,2018-05-03 18:04:18,">>170345595 Take your meds, schultz.",,Anonymous,1501184332548.jpg,li/6Y5ClvafdxNGbQOFMTA==,US,,1525370658 170340154,170345777,2018-05-03 18:04:18,">>170342992 There is a stark difference between supporting natsoc and acting like libshit. You guys act like libshits while larping as neo-nazis.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370658 170340154,170345860,2018-05-03 18:05:07,">>170345169 This is where you are actually wrong,there have been many times of close relationships with right-libertarians and authoritarians when it came against the common enemy which were the left. If you deny this,then better deny Pinochet,a totalitarian dictator which some libertarians like.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370707 170340154,170346014,2018-05-03 18:06:26,">>170345860 Fuck Pinochet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525370786 170340154,170346023,2018-05-03 18:06:31,">>170345661 we are trying to seek an almost perfect or perfect society right? If it can get the closest to an Utopia or be considered as one then it is suitable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370791 170340154,170346080,2018-05-03 18:06:57,">>170344896 >still believes the political spectrum hasn't shifted left",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370817 170340154,170346112,2018-05-03 18:07:10,">>170345356 >private death squads >private death squads again >polycentric law (see Brehon law, Icelandic Commonwealth)",,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-07-12.46.23.png,VMPXSTzhnoXQWlxSIkgdlA==,US,,1525370830 170340154,170346145,2018-05-03 18:07:32,">>170346014 Better not use any helicopter ride memes then or anything related to that matter. Which means the entire hoppean snake memes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370852 170340154,170346192,2018-05-03 18:07:58,">>170345860 Pinochet is a meme and libertarians who think buddying up to authoritarians, people who stand against everything libertarians stand for, are fools. Of all the jews who ever jewed, NatSocs are the jeweyest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525370878 170340154,170346284,2018-05-03 18:08:48,">>170346192 why the joos now? We arent Nazis",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370928 170340154,170346408,2018-05-03 18:09:53,">>170346192 And ""the enemy of my enemy is my friend"" friendo",,Anonymous,,,,,1525370993 170340154,170346496,2018-05-03 18:10:37,Everyone knows that if the LOLbertarians take over all the roads will immediately disappear. Why do you hate roads pol?,,Anonymous,ButRoads!!.jpg,n22nmqn6V1+N3eppajPhEg==,,,1525371037 170340154,170346581,2018-05-03 18:11:17,">>170346023 >Seek a perfect society No. That's social engineering bullshit. The perfect is the enemy of the good and that'w specifically WHY individuals should be left to determine for themselves how to live and to take responsibility for that life. THAT is what being strong is and it's what authoritarians, disgustingly collectivist as they are, do not understand. They are not pioneers. They are exploiters and pale shadows of truly strong men.",,Anonymous,8917053_orig.jpg,hYIm3pp2+BJgHQQAMshRKQ==,US,,1525371077 170340154,170346689,2018-05-03 18:12:17,">>170346496 >he hasnt heard of vehicles that use tracks as personal roads to conquer every land",,Anonymous,,,,,1525371137 170340154,170346758,2018-05-03 18:12:49,">>170346408 >The enemy of my enemy is my friend Easily in the running for one of the most false statements in human history.",,Anonymous,1501216194347.png,Mm4fDE1pjy0tfdq5ZIC0jg==,US,,1525371169 170340154,170347028,2018-05-03 18:14:51,">>170346758 False statements? Didnt the USSR and capitalist states work together to fight the common enemy? The entire point of that ancient proverb.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525371291 170340154,170347070,2018-05-03 18:15:08,">>170346284 I'm speaking of the archetypal Jew. The one that lives in the closets of NatSocs. I've seen too many instances of NatSocs proclaim the evils of Jews while doing all the same bullshit. They're MAchiavellian through and through and will lie to your face if it is expedient in the moment. They're unrepentant hypocrites, essentially.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525371308 170340154,170347324,2018-05-03 18:17:03,>>170346689,,Anonymous,problem solved.jpg,+JnAHjdxQjg1t8UbRG3Ggg==,,,1525371423 170340154,170347335,2018-05-03 18:17:12,">>170347028 Which immediately boiled into the cold war. Do you honestly think the USSR and countries like the US were friends? Are you retarded? They spent the next half a century probing each other's backs for where to stick the knife in and probably still are, for that matter. If you think the enemy of your enemy, especially when they are openly authoritarian, won't use that proximity to thier advantage, you're a fool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525371432 170340154,170347730,2018-05-03 18:20:05,">>170347335 Letting your guard down is retarded in the first place,always be prepared after the fight against the common enemy as there is still one more opposition left.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525371605 170340154,170347894,2018-05-03 18:21:23,">>170347730 Propping up someone who wants to do you harm is retarded too. There is zero need for libertarians and authoritarians to work together.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525371683 170340154,170348291,2018-05-03 18:24:28,">>170347894 In my honest opinion if we want to eliminate the oppositions,how would you do it then? Having a temporarily ally to fight other oppositions and then finally taking care of your ""ally"" as last is a great and efficient way to do it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525371868 170340154,170349193,2018-05-03 18:31:25,">>170348291 Authoritarians ARE the opposition. Authoritarianism is why we have all the problems we do. It's why we have a deepstate. It's why the inefficient and unsustainable cancer in society has been allowed to grow unabated. It's why we have a massive welfare system and stupid people. Too many stupid people who won't take responsibility for themselves because external entities promised to take responsibility for them. That's the roadmap of authoritarianism and to think that we should suffer them now because the authoritarians here are somehow different enough from the current vein of authoritarianism we have is nonsense.",,Anonymous,Minute Man.jpg,X6PPtuboOKYxTl2nWj+Fig==,US,,1525372285 170340154,170349415,2018-05-03 18:33:13,">>170340154 Y’all are hilariously pitiful. Dont worry though, we wont let the reds buttfuck you too hard, just enough to sober up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525372393 170340154,170349917,2018-05-03 18:37:21,">>170349193 Right wing Authoritarians have atleast few common ground with us. You still need to know that equally or worse threatening ones exist such as left wing authoritarians and libertarians. right wing authoritarians are reactionary and would only become a big problem if the left have caused enough butthurt to trigger them like post ww1 germany.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525372641 170340154,170350739,2018-05-03 18:44:18,">>170349917 There is common ground. A huge draw to Libertarianism is the underlying assumption that people who aren't white or asian would fail in a fair society and then would hopefully go somewhere else. Right wing authoritarians tend to have a similar goal, just a different method.",,Anonymous,We are full.jpg,UQq6m4yzq4N2zDBfupbI7Q==,US,,1525373058 170340154,170351372,2018-05-03 18:49:36,">>170349917 >>170349193 >>170350739 Mixed you two up 2klyd545 anon is correct anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525373376 170340154,170351658,2018-05-03 18:51:59,">>170349917 I have nothing in common with right wing authoritarians. You and me are not an ""us"". They are socialists and strong arm collectivists. They're a whore movement that seeks to envelope and and put under the yoke everyone who disagrees with them. I have just as much of an issue with them as I do with the progressives and I would probably get along much better with a ""left libertarian"", assuming they are a true libertarian, than I would with an authoritarian. I despise collectivists and authoritarians in equal measure, regardless of what bullshit reasons they have.",,Anonymous,1521176483257.jpg,e0K6ms63M5jS35Fgdg/8eQ==,US,,1525373519 170340154,170351923,2018-05-03 18:54:02,">>170351658 >I have nothing in common with right wing authoritarians >what is capitalism",,Anonymous,,,,,1525373642 170340154,170352677,2018-05-03 19:00:49,">>170350739 That's not common ground. For starters, you're going to have a lot of people having a problem with the asians. Secondly, Libertarians and authoritarians see the filtering out of people like that as a good thing for completely different reasons. I see it as a byproduct of a system righting itself. Right-authoritarians see it as an end in itself, but this lays the bed for further enforcement which I am adamantly against. To say this is ""common ground"" is tenuous at best and no reason to support people with authoritarian ideas, especially when they bring nothing to the table. The Natsoc dream would be accomplished by the Libertarian system, but only if the Authoritarian right are correct in their worldview. This means that the NatSoc ideology serves zero practical purpose and only opens the door to topdown abuse down the road.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525374049 170340154,170352788,2018-05-03 19:01:47,">>170351923 >implying right authoritarians are capitalists and not socialists",,Anonymous,1501275763707.png,7ovI2k4M0Z1paggQZc39Pw==,US,,1525374107 170340154,170352917,2018-05-03 19:02:51,">>170352788 >all right wing authoritarians are NatSoc now",,Anonymous,,,,,1525374171 170340154,170353154,2018-05-03 19:05:12,">>170352917 >Systems that support strong centralized power are capitalist now Cease this nonsense immediately. You're approaching commie-tier retarded.",,Anonymous,1500742056325.gif,ZRGnXtbgKs7yKF+rtFSKmg==,US,,1525374312 170340154,170353389,2018-05-03 19:07:31,">>170353154 Look you are acting retarded right now. There are plenty of states that have capitalism and are authoritarian in some way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525374451 170340154,170353603,2018-05-03 19:09:20,">>170353389 Being capitalist is not the same thing as having some capitalism. Point out which countries are authoritarian capitalists and we'll have a closer look.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525374560 170340154,170353622,2018-05-03 19:09:33,">>170353154 And apperantly you dont seem convincing when talking about capitalism as an economic system,makes me think you are giving different meanings",,Anonymous,,,,,1525374573 170340154,170353746,2018-05-03 19:10:42,">>170352788 I believe there is some confusion about the term ""right-wing"". In many contexts, it refers to a vague cultural concept. However, in the context of the modern political compass, it's basically like a pH scale for how planned the economy is. 100% left-wing means total central planning, 100% right-wing means completely free markets. The vertical axis, meanwhile, describes to what extent the government regulates non-economic behavior (drugs, sex, mass media, etc.).",,Anonymous,download.png,3IxXLiJz8ZS9RsoyISMXKg==,,,1525374642 170340154,170354167,2018-05-03 19:14:39,">>170353746 No it doesn't. You've established your own definition for things that already have definitions. But fine, let's assume your definition is correct for the same of argument. Show me a state where the power is centralized and heavily controlled, as is necessitated by authoritarianism, and which is also adhering to the necessary principles of capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525374879 170340154,170354245,2018-05-03 19:15:17,">>170353603 Well you got me there,there are no 100% capitalistic authoritarian regimes yet some do contain it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525374917 170340154,170354360,2018-05-03 19:16:26,">>170354245 It doesn't even have to be 100%. Just show me a country you could feasibly call ""authoritarian"" and ""capitalist"" at the same time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525374986 170340154,170354428,2018-05-03 19:16:59,">>170354167 To the best of my knowledge, there are Pinochet's Chile (after he met Friedman; before then, he was more mercantilist) and modern Singapore.",,Anonymous,1973.png,uhx5Jgw/x6B9Pp5s3Jo2EQ==,,,1525375019 170340154,170354511,2018-05-03 19:17:46,">>170354360 Saudi Arabia has some capitalism involved in it and is easily one of the most authoritarian regimes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525375066 170340154,170355044,2018-05-03 19:22:16,">>170352677 It is a common ground. It's the stated goal of many fascists and a likely side effect of a completely libertarian society. Whether its enough to justify working with authoritarians is up for debate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525375336 170340154,170356086,2018-05-03 19:31:28,">>170354428 For starters, the Singapore Government owns an estimated 60%+ of it's stock exchange through companies held by Temasek Holdinggs and GIC. >Temasek Holdings Private Limited (abbreviated as Temasek) is a state-owned holding company that can be characterized as a national wealth fund owned by the Government of Singapore. Incorporated in 1974, Temasek owns and manages a net portfolio of $275 billion[3] (as of 31 March 2017), with S$18 billion divested and S$16 billion invested during the year,[4] and 68% exposure to Asia – 29% Singapore and 39% Asia ex-Singapore.[3] It is an active shareholder and investor, and its investments are guided by four key themes – transforming economies, growing middle income populations, deepening comparative advantages and emerging champions. >GIC Private Limited, formerly known as Government of Singapore Investment Corporation, is a sovereign wealth fund established by the Government of Singapore in 1981 to manage Singapore's foreign reserves. Its mission is to preserve and enhance the international purchasing power of the reserves, with the aim to achieve good long-term returns above global inflation over the investment time horizon of 20 years. So, with some cursory looks into Singapore, we're already seeing serious socialist policy on the economic front. Looking into Chile now, before the fucking thread archives",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525375888 170340154,170356279,2018-05-03 19:33:21,">>170354511 >some capitalism >capitalist I really need you folks to learn the difference.",,Anonymous,1500612479469.jpg,l+5kj94+O71dNGewZflULw==,US,,1525376001 170340154,170357058,2018-05-03 19:40:15,">>170354428 As far as Chile, it's a somewhat difficult example, simply because you're seeing the top-down implementation of capitalist principles on an already fucked economy. Do I think that Chile was better off having these principles forced on it through authoritarian rule? Yeah, probably. do I think that's a reasonable example of how to run a continuous, stable system? No, not really.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525376415 170340154,170357941,2018-05-03 19:47:42,">>170355044 I'm not interested in cloak and dagger bullshit like the US and the soviets had post-WW2. If the US had just let the ruskies get fucked, we wouldn't have had nearly as much of an issue with commie subversion in the US decades later.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525376862 170340154,170358152,2018-05-03 19:49:42,">>170352677 Libertarianism doesn't account for pooling social capital in one place. All the software companies go to Silicon Value because that is where all the software companies already are. All the printed circuit boards are made in China because that's where all the pcb shops already are. When you give up centralized control of the economy you lose the ability to attract these massive wells of talent. When new industries emerge the nation that is willing to use aggressive tactics(such as devaluing their own currency or offering tax incentives) will end up controlling that industry and building its own social capital and reaping all those sweet sweet positive externalities that come with high employment numbers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525376982 170340154,170359041,2018-05-03 19:58:37,">>170358152 The reason why companies are all pooled in one place is because of government intervention in the private sector. Silicon valley, for example, is where it is because it was centralized around things like early military tech (all the way back to telegraphs) and Navy R&D. This pooling is a result of interference in the market and can be fixed, but not if the problem is exacerbated by the very thing that created it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525377517 170340154,170359367,2018-05-03 20:01:36,">>170359041 What I am getting at is that the pooling is a positive thing from the businesses perspective. If all the talent is in one area it makes it really easy to get competent employees. The original reason was military tech but now its for easy access to skilled labor. This is something that a nation with some level of central control would be able to create.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525377696 170340154,170359394,2018-05-03 20:01:54,">>170345169 >social, and cultural liberalism No thanks.",,Anonymous,img_0029_4706_0.jpg,aHJmMnn2y3AogYfm8lPi1Q==,US,,1525377714 170340154,170359411,2018-05-03 20:02:02,"come on. I'd expect this from an American, but I thought fellow bongs weren't this retarded and embarrassing. Come on anon, you're making us look bad.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525377722 170340154,170359543,2018-05-03 20:03:20,">>170340154 >Can't wait for the stormtards to fuck this thread up I know, hence the reason you made this thread.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525377800 170340154,170359649,2018-05-03 20:04:15,What libertarian theorists don't have enough a e s t h e t i c images of them? I can make some.,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1525377855 170340154,170359932,2018-05-03 20:07:03,">>170359367 Unfortunately, the ""business"" perspective"" is not the end-all-be-all goal and that vein of corporatist style economics has a detrimental on more important aspects of the system. Flooding the country with immigrants can be called good for the economy too, because it cuts down the bottom line and prices for good drop as well. I wou;dn't want to see that happen either, because the economy is not a demigod we sacrifice people to. It's a tool that anyone should be able to use if they're willing to put the work in. I don't give a damn what a theorizing economist claims is a ""positive thing"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525378023 170340154,170361180,2018-05-03 20:18:46,">>170359932 >>170359932 I understand that, but there is a chain of cause and effect here that you are missing. (methinks.) Taking efforts to build up social capital draws more companies to your region. More companies in your region leads to high employment. High employment lowers crime rates and fosters a high trust society. High employment in developing industries doubles as an education for your workforce allowing people in your region to became the next generation of innovators in not only that industry but in similar ones. >the economy is not a demigod we sacrifice people to It is weird that you are saying that the free market is a tool to reach a desired outcome and not the desired outcome itself. Are you sure you are a libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525378726 170340154,170361848,2018-05-03 20:25:28,">>170361180 >The reason a free market is desirable is because it is the best way to facilitate autonomy *and* wealth for those in the system. Libertarians would do well to remember why we want capitalism in the first place. It's not so we can improve whatever collective abstraction it is expedient to reify. This is where modern economics fucks up. An economy that is focused on it's own health and well-being instead of the liberty of the people operating within it is not worth anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525379128 170340154,170361902,2018-05-03 20:26:04,">>170361848 Goddamnit. Didn't mean to greentext.",,Anonymous,pissed.jpg,p2viIARnDFbvEP6i0Or9GQ==,US,,1525379164 170340154,170361990,2018-05-03 20:26:53,">>170359932 >It's a tool that anyone should be able to use if they're willing to put the work in. Just want to say here I agree. However people will a legitimate skill set who have worked with and know other people with similar skill sets will be better at using the market to make their lives better",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525379213 170340154,170362268,2018-05-03 20:29:34,">>170340992 Not allowed under the NAP. Not child slaves. Not ANY slaves. Period.",,Anonymous,nap-non-aggression.jpg,Q1COMMu9rWZ4WTCgvpr4SA==,US,,1525379374 170340154,170362280,2018-05-03 20:29:41,">>170342859 Spelled ""aggression"" wrong",,Anonymous,,,,,1525379381 170340154,170362316,2018-05-03 20:29:58,">>170361990 And I don't have a problem with that. Personally, I think corporations do more harm than good through the influence they have on government and vice versa. I'm firmly pro-business, but sort of anti-corporate and reallyt he only regulation that comes to mind I'm willing to accept (in a vacuum anyways) is breaking monopolies, simply because they strangle out competition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525379398 170340154,170362520,2018-05-03 20:31:55,">>170362316 I should also say, because I didn't mention it, that these corporations who have too much influence and can act against the market also tend to gobble up skilled people, usually landing them in places where they are not as fulfilled or even effective as they could be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525379515 170340154,170362804,2018-05-03 20:34:39,">>170343378 Pic related.",,Anonymous,your-logical-fallacy-argumentum-ad-governmentum-ad-gov-the-assumption-20591476-1.png,mtpZu84xa1WM3W1QeNzVhw==,US,,1525379679 170340154,170364035,2018-05-03 20:46:43,">>170359649 please do.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525380403 170340154,170364188,2018-05-03 20:48:24,">>170362520 I don't have a well formed opinion on this honestly but how do you think libertarian policy would affect communal trust. Even in a supposedly high trust society such as America it is extremely difficult to franchise cash heavy businesses. Would the elimination or minimization of a social safety net create a low trust society and foster nepotism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525380504 170340154,170366245,2018-05-03 21:09:17,I've been waiting to see a none archived lrg board.,,Anonymous,,,,,1525381757 170340154,170366714,2018-05-03 21:14:20,">>170341485 21 million is at least 6 million too many",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525382060 170340154,170367021,2018-05-03 21:17:29,">>170364188 I think it's ultimately irrelevant, because maintaining the social safety net only props up a system that cannot maintain itself. In that scenario, trust is going to break down anyway and having decades upon decades of reliance on safety nets is going to create a much worse fallout than getting ripping off the bandaid now. I genuinely think that too much reliance on govt or large external entities in general is what is killing people. Humans are doers and the layer upon layer of safety net has crystalized things to the point where doing things outside of a very narrow, predescribed pathway is a crapshoot most of the time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525382249 170523903,170523903,2018-05-05 08:03:18,">Discussion Topic: Borders, Borders, Borders Edition: Are borders as they presently exist, the geographical divides between states' areas of jurisdiction, valid for being the property of the taxpayer or invalid for being the property of the state? This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ - libertarian right general,Anonymous,lrgborders.png,UhULqxpFRyWV9PKrsGLZMA==,,,1525507398 170523903,170524829,2018-05-05 08:19:30,"Bump ig, prolly not optimal time of day to post",,Anonymous,,,,,1525508370 170523903,170526788,2018-05-05 08:52:59,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeBdER-T-ag,,Anonymous,murray-rothbard-anatomy-of-the-state-794-560.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,AU,,1525510379 170523903,170526870,2018-05-05 08:54:19,">>170523903 >When you hate government so much you create 7 billion of them",,Anonymous,1467403436791.gif,NPq/mt+GmDh/JMgVR7tLlQ==,US,,1525510459 170523903,170527002,2018-05-05 08:56:23,,,Anonymous,thequestion.png,58o67MXfReLk77RYSo7B2g==,,,1525510583 170523903,170527135,2018-05-05 08:58:53,">You've read Rothbard's essay ""Nations by Consent: Deconstructing the nation-state"", r-right anon?",,Anonymous,before_after.jpg,9ewDRXVZ8EW/jH0SHaAWKQ==,GB,,1525510733 170523903,170527150,2018-05-05 08:59:15,,,Anonymous,siege_von_bohm-bawerk.png,L1bvxfoYHr6NBuhAV7teIQ==,AU,,1525510755 170523903,170527273,2018-05-05 09:01:19,,,Anonymous,1502602540242.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1525510879 170523903,170527414,2018-05-05 09:03:36,Libertarians must embrace White identity.,,Anonymous,1509589666906.jpg,7iHlgkXvxONXhT2bVySSpw==,US,,1525511016 170523903,170528336,2018-05-05 09:18:04,>>170526870,,Anonymous,1525422134366.png,r1y5WpkXJTIoK29P4pmpMQ==,,,1525511884 170523903,170528999,2018-05-05 09:29:17,>Ancap,,Anonymous,1467654352352.jpg,Sb1sOfZbrs0JvD6RBZP/TQ==,ES,,1525512557 170523903,170529802,2018-05-05 09:42:06,">>170528999 >statist",,Anonymous,Jewish_Cat.jpg,aaLONHaxCeCRCwLuqoge9w==,GB,,1525513326 170523903,170530801,2018-05-05 09:56:53,">>170526870 Government literally means ""mind control"", so it's only fitting that each person should ""govern"" themselves. After all, they were only created to exercise direct control over themselves and themselves only.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525514213 170523903,170531852,2018-05-05 10:13:24,">>170523903 This thread is now under the control of the NAZBOL gang.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525515204 170523903,170532441,2018-05-05 10:22:45,Remember the time David Friedman BTFO /lrg/?,,Anonymous,hoppeans BTFO.png,pu7Qa0h8gg+dWZolyuF4zQ==,,,1525515765 170523903,170532945,2018-05-05 10:31:16,"I would say that since it's money stolen from the taxpayer, that the taxpayer should have a say in the border policy, but on the other hand, considering that an end is extremely statist, and dependency on the state to keep out undesirables is suicidal desu",,Anonymous,,,,,1525516276 170523903,170533081,2018-05-05 10:33:18,"Topic of the day: abortion is allowed in a libertarian moral framework because the fetus is violating the NAP by being the womb without permission. And since there are a lot of low-IQ statist brainlets here, let me pre-empt some stupid counter-arguments It doesn't matter whether or not the fetus is considered a real person or not. If it's not, then removing it is no problem. If it is, it's violating the NAP. It doesn't matter whether or not the sex was consensual. The woman might have accepted the intercourse but not the pregnancy. The woman might have agreed to the pregnancy but later revoked her consent. It doesn't matter if the fetus is ""innocent"", it still isn't entitled to the ill-gotten gains received by violating the NAP. Discuss, and try to make proper arguments this time",,Anonymous,,,,,1525516398 170523903,170533374,2018-05-05 10:37:56,">>170533081 >abortion is allowed in a libertarian moral framework Sure, but it's also allowed to take every measure to oppose it. It's entirely ethical for providers of medical supplies to refuse to do so for abortion clinics, and it's entirely ethical for a community to agree to exclude, boycott, ostracize etc. someone who chooses to have an abortion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525516676 170523903,170533387,2018-05-05 10:38:07,">>170533081 You abort your own children. The NAZBOL gang will keep reproducing for the motherland!",,Anonymous,,,,,1525516687 170523903,170533546,2018-05-05 10:40:18,"lolbergs cant economics http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork.org/brief/why-there-nothing-scary-about-us-national-debt https://outline.com/DX92Yn https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-the-public-debt-3306294",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525516818 170523903,170533586,2018-05-05 10:40:59,"Bastiat ftw, see also Essays on pol economy. Big names are probably scared of AI because it would go bonkers over how redundantly idiotic the governments of the world are in practice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525516859 170523903,170533806,2018-05-05 10:44:15,">>170533374 Obviously, although I doubt that will happen in reality. Also people can travel to another country to have their abortions, no-one would ever know >>170533387 >You abort your own children. The NAZBOL gang will keep reproducing for the motherland It's ok, the communism-induced starvation will keep nazbol numbers in check",,Anonymous,,,,,1525517055 170523903,170533886,2018-05-05 10:45:20,">>170533806 NAZBOL has no starvation, but also no obesity. NAZBOL strong all women love NAZBOL men.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525517120 170523903,170534180,2018-05-05 10:49:11,">not wanting to have everything you own confiscated by the government >not living in eternal NEETdom due to everything given to nigs/affirmitive action >not cucking to that alpha statesman like the best goyim in the world. Daily reminder: First Flag Best Flag",,Anonymous,,,,,1525517351 170523903,170534413,2018-05-05 10:52:32,">>170533081 >being in the womb without permission you really don't have any understanding on procreation ?",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1525517552 170523903,170534655,2018-05-05 10:56:09,">>170534413 >you really don't have any understanding on procreation ? Do you understand English you fucking toilet-plumbing Polish slavnigger? I already addressed this >It doesn't matter whether or not the sex was consensual. The woman might have accepted the intercourse but not the pregnancy. The woman might have agreed to the pregnancy but later revoked her consent.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525517769 170523903,170536063,2018-05-05 11:15:32,">>170527414 Post the right one.",,Anonymous,DNxiSudVoAAwpUY.jpg,UYNq/dEyyNfmRv12ngH0AQ==,US,,1525518932 170523903,170536253,2018-05-05 11:18:16,">>170536063 >Ancaps isolate themselves to a cuck island while the glorious NAZBOL gang subjugates the dumb anarkiddies and gets the big island Accurate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525519096 170523903,170538246,2018-05-05 11:44:25,">>170526870 nobody likes monopolies, widen the competition.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525520665 170523903,170538407,2018-05-05 11:46:23,>>170523903,,Anonymous,LibertariansAreRetarded.jpg,GUtLX416EZ9Np0hSip/I6Q==,US,,1525520783 170523903,170538467,2018-05-05 11:47:05,,,Anonymous,LibertarianismIsJewish.jpg,B9SqshDMkcPy4ksjovurSw==,US,,1525520825 170523903,170538519,2018-05-05 11:47:50,,,Anonymous,1454186808839.jpg,rKnTIIb9v/iXOG5pnuEb4Q==,US,,1525520870 170523903,170538530,2018-05-05 11:47:58,">>170533081 >abortion is allowed in a libertarian moral framework because the fetus is violating the NAP by being the womb without permission If I kidnap you and put you inside my house can I shoot you because you're trespassing? You cannot be in a place without permission if the other person is the one who put you there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525520878 170523903,170538637,2018-05-05 11:49:41,">>170538519 Kill yourself you commie monster. You will never destroy us again.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525520981 170523903,170538783,2018-05-05 11:51:26,">>170523903 hey libertarians http://www.playbuzz.com/joycemartin10/can-you-pass-the-sociopath-test",,Anonymous,Screenshot at 2018-05-05 11-50-10.png,a1gluPlBM57qTmje6G7Uog==,CA,,1525521086 170523903,170538993,2018-05-05 11:54:17,">>170538519 none of the things on those list are soley because of capitalsim... you list shit like world war two but that was a three sided war with capitalism, fasiscm and communism and the most deaths where on the eastern front fascist vs communist. furthermore you list things like the vietnarm war which had communist involvment. your copypasta sucks becuase you try to show capitalist killings by showing the handy work of despotic regiemes which are mostly communist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525521257 170523903,170539182,2018-05-05 11:56:54,">>170538783 >Question 1 >SUCCESS IS BASED ON SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST; I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOSERS. Is there like a non brainlet version of the test that doesn't assume success as zero sum?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525521414 170523903,170539379,2018-05-05 11:59:29,">>170538783 >do you think with your fee fees >no >SOCIOPATH CONFIRMED normie tier test there bud",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525521569 170523903,170539431,2018-05-05 12:00:05,,,Anonymous,Screenshot at 2018-05-05 11-58-35.png,yDpSMFjFz3CIgJcsPybjLg==,CA,,1525521605 170523903,170539615,2018-05-05 12:02:42,"Korwin Mikke is perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ1S-tkc3LY",,Anonymous,korwin hoppe.jpg,nKJ7kB7sJk/MoqyOVpcmGg==,PT,,1525521762 170523903,170539617,2018-05-05 12:02:45,"funny, lobtardians can't believe their perfect ideology looks sociopathic",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525521765 170523903,170540093,2018-05-05 12:08:47,">>170523903 >LIBERtarian >Right wing Pick one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525522127 170523903,170540348,2018-05-05 12:11:39,https://www.alternet.org/visions/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda,,Anonymous,Screenshot at 2018-05-05 12-10-51.png,A1SY5VvVA1zYIpELBGxYDw==,CA,,1525522299 170523903,170540770,2018-05-05 12:16:39,">>170540093 >Collectivist >Right wing Pick one",,Anonymous,,,,,1525522599 170523903,170541193,2018-05-05 12:21:49,">>170540770 >Believes the Enlightenment was a right wing movement",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525522909 170523903,170541820,2018-05-05 12:29:03,">>170523903 What do Libertarians think of kikery?",,Anonymous,1513037280940.jpg,EtGWLTjpP76BxckulCP5ow==,,,1525523343 170523903,170541901,2018-05-05 12:29:58,">>170540348 >saved thanks leaf will add to my (((libertarians))) stuff",,Anonymous,1524508307953.png,gXv3IvEd1CwH6scfiFEDtQ==,US,,1525523398 170523903,170542213,2018-05-05 12:33:37,">>170523903 National borders are not legitimate but they are not arbitrary either. They are the objective markers for the geographic limitations of that particular state's capacity for military expansion. And what the fuck is ""national capitalists"" , that's retarded. Fix your intro",,Anonymous,05f.jpg,91IpCOZRWp7u7Q5d2W9Ewg==,,,1525523617 170523903,170542583,2018-05-05 12:38:02,">>170540348 Wow epic win! Libertards destroyed",,Anonymous,,,,,1525523882 170523903,170542585,2018-05-05 12:38:03,">>170526870 You believe in national sovereignty? Why not provincial or regional? Or rather, why don't you believe in a sovereign one-world government? There's no way to tell where to draw the line. There's no rational justification for declaring sovereignty of a nation anymore than sovereignty of the individual.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525523883 170523903,170542665,2018-05-05 12:39:17,">>170538530 >If I kidnap you and put you inside my house can I shoot you because you're trespassing? If you do that, am I allowed to stay in your house against your will? I will have to leave as soon as I can. Better analogy would be if you invited me to your house but then, after a while, you wanted me out. Would I have to leave, or am I allowed to stay forever since you invited me?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525523957 170523903,170542682,2018-05-05 12:39:38,>>170526870,,Anonymous,1494254741502.jpg,WU/CtrWPObEsibCgsweSOQ==,US,,1525523978 170523903,170543001,2018-05-05 12:43:54,"Reminder that National Socialism is not socialist as you imagine it, Hitler literally brought one of the first privatization efforts in the western world, selling off tons of government property, and industries to private individuals ""except for a few necessary industries"" http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf Average income tax for German citizens in 1939 was 14%, meanwhile in Britain ""the capitalist shield wall against the socialist hordes"" income tax averaged around 22.7%, which country sounds more socialist to you?",,Anonymous,Germany on its feet.png,g1mGYvkevWu7ye1RiNy5xg==,,,1525524234 170523903,170543111,2018-05-05 12:45:15,">>170533081 NAP is fictitious trash. No better than religious commandment. The core of libertarian philosophy is the recognition of scarcity and the desire of all rational minds to avoid conflicts. The solution to which is private property labels. Also, this is Hoppe on abortion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuoepBsv3ZE",,Anonymous,,,,,1525524315 170523903,170543130,2018-05-05 12:45:30,">>170540348 >Tfw lolbertardians literally fell for a zionist shill",,Anonymous,,,,,1525524330 170523903,170543699,2018-05-05 12:52:49,">>170543001 Hitler was a faggot and his assrape by stalin shall serve as an enternal monument for the superiority of socialist economics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525524769 170523903,170543840,2018-05-05 12:54:29,">>170543699 ebic trolle xDDD",,Anonymous,lend lease aid to the USSR.png,JRKK+OcxXpBQz/aV7el9yA==,US,,1525524869 170523903,170543885,2018-05-05 12:54:57,>>170543699,,Anonymous,1486361664302.jpg,aFPXFA7os4ngYpT+M2c9tw==,,,1525524897 170523903,170544179,2018-05-05 12:58:27,">>170543840 You think germany didn’t use foreign weapons? Ever heard of panzer38?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525107 170523903,170544208,2018-05-05 12:58:46,">>170543885 Oh yeah modern germany is so much better.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525126 170523903,170544295,2018-05-05 12:59:48,">>170543699 lol, meanwhile USSR had to survive off capitalist charity during the war ""Land Lease""",,Anonymous,Stalin loved jews.jpg,2Cref9kduGFtpi8OA0XkNg==,,,1525525188 170523903,170544340,2018-05-05 13:00:17,">>170544179 I'll tell you what I think. I think you are an idiot.",,Anonymous,1365141991239.jpg,MUGZhHfET49/FEOP0qwGfA==,US,,1525525217 170523903,170544406,2018-05-05 13:01:16,">>170544340 Nice cope faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525276 170523903,170544418,2018-05-05 13:01:28,">>170544208 Modern Germany doesn't claim to be National Socialist retard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525288 170523903,170544453,2018-05-05 13:01:50,">>170544340 >those MacPaint fill patterns tho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525525310 170523903,170544540,2018-05-05 13:02:51,">>170523903 borders aren't property retard, they are a social construct of the citizens who enforce them they are justified in the same manner that property rights are justified, except collectively",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525525371 170523903,170544586,2018-05-05 13:03:19,">>170544406 Nothing the Germans used foreign or otherwise was anywhere close to lend lease you fuckwit.",,Anonymous,37f.png,E8jmi07zO3lUyF+0WEzvYQ==,US,,1525525399 170523903,170544593,2018-05-05 13:03:26,">>170544418 Neither are any of those people stalinist you queer. I love how mentioning God (stalin) triggers queer naziboos so much.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525406 170523903,170544673,2018-05-05 13:04:27,">>170542585 >ancap believes that the individual is not sovereign now that's a new one what makes the nation not sovereign? >inb4 violence are individuals not also capable of violence?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525525467 170523903,170544823,2018-05-05 13:06:19,">>170544593 Whatever, enjoy the knowledge that your supposed ""anti capitalist workers ideology"" had to survive off capitalist charity. Reminder that your ""God"" died shiting himself on the floor, with no one making a move to help him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525579 170523903,170544945,2018-05-05 13:07:42,">>170544586 The stuff sent in as lend lease was scraps like the m3. A tiny fraction of the total manufacturing of the union.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525662 170523903,170545003,2018-05-05 13:08:22,">>170544945 >imagine being this delusional",,Anonymous,lend lease b25.jpg,7AAZzxF6BHfGzLZMQzCLoA==,US,,1525525702 170523903,170545041,2018-05-05 13:08:57,">>170544673 you have comprehension issues? I never said the individual is not sovereign",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525737 170523903,170545064,2018-05-05 13:09:13,">>170544823 Lmao your queer daddy died shooting himself in the head like the coward he is. Atleast stalin lived until old age. Also the only reason the soviet union required lend lease was that the trecherous meth addict betrayed their pact of non aggression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525753 170523903,170545091,2018-05-05 13:09:34,">>170545003 >Imagine running out of arguments",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525774 170523903,170545174,2018-05-05 13:10:45,">>170545064 Hah! at least Hitler had died with his people, when the Germans were at Moscow's gates, Stalin was making plans to run!",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525845 170523903,170545234,2018-05-05 13:11:30,">>170545091 You never had an argument to begin with. It's objective fact that the soviets did not support themselves and relied heavily on capitalism in WWII.",,Anonymous,lend lease m4 sherman.jpg,iZWzluGSgESdVr7WtDbCvw==,US,,1525525890 170523903,170545258,2018-05-05 13:11:46,">>170545174 Stalin never considered surrender while hitler took the cowards way out. Typical homosexual.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525906 170523903,170545365,2018-05-05 13:12:55,">>170545234 Soviets could have probably pulled of an victory even without lend lease. Germany also relied heavily on foreign equipment.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525975 170523903,170545389,2018-05-05 13:13:18,">>170545258 Stalin wasn't considering surrender, of course he was willing to throw millions of conscripts at the enemy to secure his power base. He was personally ready to run out of town if the enemy directly threatened his safety though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525525998 170523903,170545419,2018-05-05 13:13:50,>>170545365,,Anonymous,1521001222158.jpg,i98CoRs0sLp4fECumM4LoQ==,,,1525526030 170523903,170545453,2018-05-05 13:14:20,SHITPOSTERS RAUS,,Anonymous,1488841221504.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,US,,1525526060 170523903,170545508,2018-05-05 13:14:59,">>170545389 >Considered But he didn’t. Queer hitler on the other hand would have shot himself in an instant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526099 170523903,170545522,2018-05-05 13:15:09,">>170523903 >libertarian >right wing hahaha",,Anonymous,1523025610170.jpg,ddTieib0YKpyRw12E0crrg==,,,1525526109 170523903,170545539,2018-05-05 13:15:24,">>170545453 You are even worse than the sodomite methhead.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526124 170523903,170545557,2018-05-05 13:15:34,">>170545453 Its funny that Libertarians love Pinochet but hate Hitler, considering the fact that their policies weren't all that different See >>170543001",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526134 170523903,170545607,2018-05-05 13:16:06,">>170523903 Communists >you fuggin bourgeois slave Socialists >you fuggin capitalist slave Egoists >you fuggin spook Left wing anarchists >you fuggin bootlicker Democrats >you fuggin straight white male Centrist >you fuggin radical Republican >you fuggin snowflake Libertarian >you fuggin statist Anarcho Capitalist >you fuggin statist Theocrat >you fuggin sinner Monarchist >you fuggin liberal Fascist >you fuggin (currently empty) National Socialist >you fuggin jew fascism is the best ideology confirmed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525526166 170523903,170545609,2018-05-05 13:16:06,">HELICOPTA DA COMMIES XD EBIN so how much traction has the libertarian right gained in the past 10 years?",,Anonymous,1516912212377.jpg,seYfCoux4Nb/VyoN6hdxGQ==,GB,,1525526166 170523903,170545621,2018-05-05 13:16:15,">>170545539 >>170545557 You both deserve each other.",,Anonymous,1488841034165.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1525526175 170523903,170545649,2018-05-05 13:16:36,">>170545557 Hitler atleast pretended to care about the people. Pinoshit was just a globalist puppet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526196 170523903,170545663,2018-05-05 13:16:46,">>170523903 If libertarianism worked, why are failed states like Somalia not paradise? Doesn't free enterprise with zero regulations beat regulated economies every time?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525526206 170523903,170545700,2018-05-05 13:17:13,">>170545609 It's everywhere in the US.",,Anonymous,1521751386419.png,AhSZm7Bwxt3rpHg+VcuGTg==,US,,1525526233 170523903,170545714,2018-05-05 13:17:21,">>170545453 is it not my right to shitpost on this forum? Not very liberalist of you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525526241 170523903,170545717,2018-05-05 13:17:25,">>170545609 They are usually busy in a pride parade.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526245 170523903,170545810,2018-05-05 13:18:34,">>170545714 Rights? You gave those over to us in that user agreement you signed.",,Anonymous,1487831045868.jpg,60MvaGejU1qXB0h+ug91Tw==,US,,1525526314 170523903,170545811,2018-05-05 13:18:33,">>170545508 >Queer >Queer >Queer Are you projecting? if Moscow had been significant bombed, Stalin would have ran ""suicide is still more brave than flight"" and Hitler only killed himself after the war was visibly lost.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526313 170523903,170545879,2018-05-05 13:19:19,">>170545700 I think you mean neoconservativism, as usual. Trump just has to saved the based kikes from the evil Muslims right?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525526359 170523903,170545980,2018-05-05 13:20:36,">>170545811 when will this meme die, hitler escaped to south america",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525526436 170523903,170546022,2018-05-05 13:21:05,">>170545980 No proof",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526465 170523903,170546057,2018-05-05 13:21:29,">>170545811 ”Suicide is brave.” Heard from the mouth of the naziboo retard. All nazis are gay which I know triggers you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526489 170523903,170546091,2018-05-05 13:21:56,">>170545879 No I mean gasden flying lolbertarians. There are millions in that base of people.",,Anonymous,1477974407050.jpg,FOoro3CmmpOWf2bmrqmSpg==,US,,1525526516 170523903,170546126,2018-05-05 13:22:31,">>170546022 https://vault.fbi.gov/adolf-hitler",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525526551 170523903,170546212,2018-05-05 13:23:41,">>170523903 HOPPE HEIL",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526621 170523903,170546266,2018-05-05 13:24:17,">>170542665 >If you do that, am I allowed to stay in your house against your will? If the only way to remove you from the situation I put you in is by killing you, then yes, you're morally allowed to stay there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526657 170523903,170546358,2018-05-05 13:25:35,">>170530801 this guy knows his shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526735 170523903,170546414,2018-05-05 13:26:14,,,Anonymous,1385898448610.png,gHeY98JUyDvK1RvF/XL15g==,,,1525526774 170523903,170546480,2018-05-05 13:27:01,">government means mind control only legitimate government is a fascist theocracy/ monarchy",,Anonymous,65f1381a49b0984ffcbd65dd83198c70a64968135efd94e60548555f4870330c.jpg,sWX6puVBQ9bbzJ0anNpUiQ==,GB,,1525526821 170523903,170546531,2018-05-05 13:27:44,">>170546480 autist",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526864 170523903,170546613,2018-05-05 13:28:48,">>170546531 faggot",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525526928 170523903,170546670,2018-05-05 13:29:24,">>170546414 >Country he destroyed LMAO >Run away Where exactly? Show me a gay stalinist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525526964 170523903,170546699,2018-05-05 13:29:46,">>170546480 fucking finally a Brit I don’t hate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525526986 170523903,170546795,2018-05-05 13:31:02,">>170543111 I agree NAP is often used as a straw man, and it's not a religious mantra that everyone must accept as their god in order for libertarianism/ancap to work. NAP is simply the cheapest and most efficient set of laws to avoid conflict, therefore it should be projected that if law frames were exposed to market forces and competition, law frames based on the NAP would triumph. If people were asked ""What kind of laws would you subject yourself to, if that meant your neighbors would be subject to those same laws"", something very resembling of the NAP would be what most people would choose.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527062 170523903,170546824,2018-05-05 13:31:23,">when anarcho capitalism, a literal meme ideology has been tried twice but that’s still 2 more times than how many times libertarianism has been tried",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525527083 170523903,170546831,2018-05-05 13:31:28,">>170546057 >t. Bolshevik pillowbiting faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525527088 170523903,170546871,2018-05-05 13:32:02,>>170546824,,Anonymous,1514640366632.jpg,Gbpul7z2DBNfliS9UyGl/g==,GB,,1525527122 170523903,170546888,2018-05-05 13:32:14,">>170545522 Libertarianism is exclusively right-wing, as required by its etymology",,Anonymous,[removal intensifies].jpg,Grw9oJ1492NpHa45Q6f97g==,US,,1525527134 170523903,170546947,2018-05-05 13:32:44,">>170523903 >>170538059",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525527164 170523903,170547006,2018-05-05 13:33:31,"Libertarianism, because of its indifference to morality and christian tradition, must lead to multiculturalism or jewish supervision",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1525527211 170523903,170547040,2018-05-05 13:33:57,">>170546670 >Where exactly? Probably to the US, where his national welfare was coming from. >Show me a gay stalinist. Show me a gay Nazi, faggots murdered in the Night of Long Knives, and fetishists don't count.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527237 170523903,170547167,2018-05-05 13:35:14,">>170547006 based polak >>170546888 please tell me how ""right wing libertarianism"" is different to ""left wing liberatarianism""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525527314 170523903,170547238,2018-05-05 13:36:00,">>170523903 https://youtu.be/S_eY1W7Ezw4 https://youtu.be/ip4Ge-xwxvE https://youtu.be/CQNwG6GTx6E https://youtu.be/sh378oyTQWQ https://youtu.be/1sP01ylAkfo https://youtu.be/qA-oHgck3UY https://youtu.be/caBRGOoJrWM https://youtu.be/jHh_Z7RgCEk https://youtu.be/AB-oJLq5rWo https://youtu.be/IYBZaJKRe_0 https://youtu.be/LLAXjq-FK9s https://youtu.be/2rZt2PMQieQ https://youtu.be/qK3INw0E2ig https://youtu.be/tGtxk-AMj40 https://youtu.be/o18_5vHBFVA https://youtu.be/6lws77iK_aw https://youtu.be/gudJgbvBnmo https://youtu.be/q9Sss8Y_Ge0 https://youtu.be/WOrZuXhV530 https://youtu.be/5_0OVHcIMh0 https://youtu.be/I3gJ2XUZQ4o https://youtu.be/Trumcn-BWpc https://youtu.be/-5i4ZGVQGa8 https://youtu.be/ck0NmJvivP8 https://youtu.be/u7N9JeH3SzE https://youtu.be/CUJQsoYxS3s https://youtu.be/KXSUEU7ISfQ https://youtu.be/xTstk36-3Ak https://youtu.be/3aeQ3DmKU7A https://youtu.be/0GpFB6vXkmg https://youtu.be/acMqxcdxE0E https://youtu.be/0XxYwWg7F8I",,Anonymous,atom.jpg,GHYY92geAdiNrSdef5AcUQ==,,,1525527360 170523903,170547319,2018-05-05 13:36:58,">>170547006 >indifference to morality and christian tradition The fuck are you talking about? Precisely because we want to break with mandatory association we acknowledge voluntary association such as church as a cornerstone for human organization.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527418 170523903,170547353,2018-05-05 13:37:21,">>170547040 Lmao US wouldn’t have taken Stalin in had the ussr fallen. Hitler was gay. National socialism was born out of the homosexual hatred for european whites and traditionalism. That’s why they attacked the ussr because stalin had gulag’d their russian butt buddies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527441 170523903,170547397,2018-05-05 13:37:53,">>170546613 kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527473 170523903,170547566,2018-05-05 13:39:45,">>170547353 Stalin was actually a pedophile, bringing in hundreds of little kulack kids into his bed room to rape every night. Communism was born out a intense desire to sexually molest little kulack kids all across the world.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527585 170523903,170547628,2018-05-05 13:40:28,">>170546888 >H-ans >H-ermann >H-oppe Those digits holy shit",,Anonymous,mypolcompass.jpg,VCq12bA2nCmtRgmbixiIVQ==,,,1525527628 170523903,170547732,2018-05-05 13:41:48,">>170547566 That is a lie. Stalin was a very nice man and hated pedophiles. I like how you discreetly admit what national socialism is really about.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527708 170523903,170547777,2018-05-05 13:42:22,">be libertarian society >jew comes along >puts estrogen in water >""thats ok we are a libertarian society, we wouldnt want to be a statist"" >jew starts mass producing pornography >""thats ok we are a libertarian society, we wouldnt want to be a statist"" >jew starts making toxic food that literally kills you >""thats ok we are a libertarian society, we wouldnt want to be a statist"" >jew raises prices of all healthy food, meaning poorer people will now eat the toxic shit >""thats ok we are a libertarian society, we wouldnt want to be a statist"" >jew begins lobbying for israel, openly states he only cares about jew land >""thats ok we are a libertarian society, we wouldnt want to be a statist"" >jews take hold over banks, only promoting other jews and the like >""thats ok we are a libertarian society, we wouldnt want to be a statist"" >jews crash the entire economy because your retarded and let a 3rd party run your countries economy >""thats ok we are a libertarian society, we wouldnt want to be a statist"" >jews mass import migrants to do their labour after the natives are made lazy through mass media >""thats ok we are a libertarian society, we wouldnt want to be a statist"" >inb4 stop talking about jews your shitty meme ideology will NEVER work",,Anonymous,1524932039408.jpg,7tW39xJMO8Tq6QBtwyw5sg==,GB,,1525527742 170523903,170547857,2018-05-05 13:43:19,">>170547732 Stalin raped little kids every night, Gulag were actually just giant rape camps, where the Soviet soldiers let off steam by raping little kids.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527799 170523903,170547957,2018-05-05 13:44:24,">>170547857 I see the truth broke your faggot brain. Stalin was not a pedophile. Hitler was gay.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527864 170523903,170548022,2018-05-05 13:45:08,">>170547319 >Precisely because we want to break with mandatory association we acknowledge voluntary association such as church as a cornerstone for human organization I don't care Libertarians will never make any criticism of Leftist media propagating immorality and nihilism, because libertarians are indifferent to it Libertarians are simply people who lack any wider and deeper interest in human affairs, and guess what, the world is wider and deeper Libertarians will never protect countries from multiculturalism, which indirectly is a consequence of moral decline Also, libertarianism in the end leads to what Tocqueville described as soft despotism, that is, the rule of dispersed bureaucrats, judges and NGOs brainwashing the people Libertarianism leads to worship of entertainment and private life, because it never describes anything that is public. To libertarians, knowing national history is useless, thus people won't know, what kind of tradition they come from and how to even at least judge it Whereas Jews for instance, with all their influence, see themselves as public people, not as private people",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1525527908 170523903,170548044,2018-05-05 13:45:20,">>170547957 Stalin was a pedophile.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527920 170523903,170548086,2018-05-05 13:45:52,">>170548044 No",,Anonymous,,,,,1525527952 170523903,170548127,2018-05-05 13:46:23,">>170548044 this is probably true considering all the commies were jews",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525527983 170523903,170548265,2018-05-05 13:48:18,">>170547167 Right-wing Libertarianism: >'Fuck the government' Left-wing Libertarianism: >'Fuck the businesses' Both LWL and RWL want small gov't, but one wants to limit the power of the corporations and the other does not.",,Anonymous,collectivism vs individualism.png,2kUQINJYLkH4zeMn1X6IJg==,,,1525528098 170523903,170548389,2018-05-05 13:49:49,">>170548265 >right wing libertarians dont want to limit the power of corporations so you are more retarded than i originally thought, impressive",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525528189 170523903,170548391,2018-05-05 13:49:49,">>170538407 Post the correct version you fag",,Anonymous,commie retard logic.jpg,iQ8gOCw4V1uha3i5KMSBXw==,US,,1525528189 170523903,170548396,2018-05-05 13:49:52,">>170547777 my god i dont even know where to start the government are the ones putting flouride in the water you absolute retard",,Anonymous,1504568129260.jpg,R/8seEsEBVhCQLdyP3nreQ==,,,1525528192 170523903,170548412,2018-05-05 13:50:05,">>170548265 Memememememememe what a stupid ideology.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528205 170523903,170548473,2018-05-05 13:50:53,">>170548265 >want small gov't Small government exists only when there are well raised people from big families, because then the government doesn't have to settle disputes with its many offices and courts. Smallest governments were in catholic Middle Ages when countries were run by big families and people themselves, and where virtue was promoted, which to lolbertarians would be a scary authoritarianism, because of lolbertarian moral indifference",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1525528253 170523903,170548562,2018-05-05 13:51:51,">>170548396 >if the government does it then no other group possibly could >if the government disapeared, all of the problems created by the government would magically vanish",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525528311 170523903,170548563,2018-05-05 13:51:51,">>170548265 small government doesnt exist, all governments are the same size",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525528311 170523903,170548564,2018-05-05 13:51:52,">>170540348 >Milton Friedman invented libertarianism Leafs, everybody.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525528312 170523903,170548592,2018-05-05 13:52:11,">>170548473 eh? that aint authoritarianism",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528331 170523903,170548713,2018-05-05 13:53:42,">>170548562 >strawmans i never said: the post",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528422 170523903,170548790,2018-05-05 13:54:40,">>170548592 Yes it is. To lolbertarians almost any rules and expectations from others is authoritarianism. Libertarianism is in this regard similar to postmodernism, which claims that rules of thinking are fascist, because they limit human freedom. Libertarians have no concept of human upbringing, like the Greeks or Romans had",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1525528480 170523903,170548833,2018-05-05 13:55:08,">>170548713 feel free to let me know how a libertarian society is going to prevent itself from being subverted",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525528508 170523903,170548979,2018-05-05 13:56:50,">>170548389 It is impossible to limit the power of corporations without the force of a government, this is why LWL is an ultimate contradiction. A society may want both businesses and government to be small, but how would they keep the businesses' power small? Taxation.. among other means, of course, but in doing this, they're making the government larger.",,Anonymous,1502692859658.png,7lEu6FUmgoN9hkJm2c3BFQ==,,,1525528610 170523903,170549031,2018-05-05 13:57:29,">>170548022 >Libertarians will never make any criticism of Leftist media propagating immorality and nihilism, because libertarians are indifferent to it Straw man, how many libertarians have you interacted with? >Libertarians will never protect countries from multiculturalism, which indirectly is a consequence of moral decline Bullshit, it's precisely the state what is leading to multiculturalism and the solution won't come from getting the ""good guys"" in power. You think voting a guy who promises to close the borders during their mandate will resist jewish trickery? lmao The solution to multiculturalism is precisely eliminating the idea that there can be a guy who decides whether the border should be open or close. Borders must be private, and whether they're open or close should be decided by what would be more profitable for the owner. I'm not even gonna bother with the rest of your post because in the little I read you clearly demonstrated you don't have a clue about libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528649 170523903,170549137,2018-05-05 13:58:46,">>170548979 A slave begging to be chained is a rare sight, that’s why ancap is a rare ideology.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528726 170523903,170549219,2018-05-05 13:59:46,">>170548833 Cause there will always be people who read between the lines and notice the subversion, and libertarianism allows them a way out through secession/segregation?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528786 170523903,170549230,2018-05-05 13:59:52,">>170549031 >Tfw McDonalds imports foreign labor but it’s okay because they just opened a private border",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528792 170523903,170549247,2018-05-05 13:59:57,">>170548979 >large governments are innately bad",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525528797 170523903,170549331,2018-05-05 14:00:52,">>170549230 Imports where? They're going to sleep in McDonalds?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528852 170523903,170549342,2018-05-05 14:00:58,">>170548391 Because it isn't like corporations do very similar things...... oh wait.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528858 170523903,170549393,2018-05-05 14:01:37,">>170549219 >there will always be people who read between the lines and notice the subversion this point stands for the government as well, while the solution to your problem is to run away, the solution to a corrupt government is a armed rebellion",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525528897 170523903,170549456,2018-05-05 14:02:23,">>170549331 In private housing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525528943 170523903,170549573,2018-05-05 14:03:32,">>170549456 >tfw the migrants have kidnapped a group of schoolgirls and are keeping them locked in the basement of their private properly, meaning we cant get them back without breaking the NAP",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525529012 170523903,170549610,2018-05-05 14:04:03,">>170549393 My solution to the problem is the same solution to every problem ever: Increase the amount of possible choices. Let every city in the world compete for citizens by setting their own laws and you will quickly see better governing methods. >>170549456 Will it be in McDonalds private city or will it be in someone else's?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529043 170523903,170549704,2018-05-05 14:05:04,">>170549610 >spend time increasing the amount of options >meanwhile someone else fixes the problem sounds about right desu",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525529104 170523903,170549715,2018-05-05 14:05:13,">>170549137 Those who preach the validity of a state that restricts the humanity of those it governs are the individuals who are begging to be collectivized and enslaved. In a statist society you are nothing more than a cog in the machine of war. >>170549247 Always is, unless said government protects private property rights and kills communists. Fascism is more desirable than anything else when it comes to humanity.",,Anonymous,casal-1818171_960_720.png,GG6z3zAO8VBJWmDmkyEB5A==,,,1525529113 170523903,170549791,2018-05-05 14:06:00,">>170549610 In an ancap world? Ehh hard to say.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529160 170523903,170549850,2018-05-05 14:06:50,">>170549610 Literally McDonalds basement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529210 170523903,170549868,2018-05-05 14:07:05,">>170549715 define ""large"" government, the amount of tax, the amount of power? amount of laws?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525529225 170523903,170549951,2018-05-05 14:08:03,">>170528336 this",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525529283 170523903,170549999,2018-05-05 14:08:37,">>170549715 Cog in a machine of war? Sounds badass, just the right thing for NAZBOL gang. A slave is a very different thing from a dedicated worker. A dedicated worker works for himself and the nation. A slave works for someone else.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529317 170523903,170550072,2018-05-05 14:09:19,">>170549791 Simple, you don't like immigrants don't live in McDonalds city and choose a city that restricts or forbids immigration. Most people who vote for immigration rarely live near them, when people vote with their feet they show their true selves, and restrictive immigration cities would be in much higher demand in an ancap scenario.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529359 170523903,170550122,2018-05-05 14:09:52,">>170549247 You guys really are subjects...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525529392 170523903,170550318,2018-05-05 14:11:58,">>170547777 >be libertarian >get raped by niggers >""Oh too bad! I can't do anything because of NAP!!!! Guess I love being raped!""",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525529518 170523903,170550350,2018-05-05 14:12:18,">>170549850 And where would that McDonalds be? I assume in a city, and that the city has an owner/coallition of owners, are they okay with it? Did McDonalds sign no contract to establish in that city? Are people living in that city not under a contract that establishes how immigration is handled?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529538 170523903,170550415,2018-05-05 14:12:57,">>170550072 It’s the private property of McDonalds, what the fuck is the city going to do? Also only a basedboy lets corporations take his sacred land. NAZBOL gang just seizes it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529577 170523903,170550432,2018-05-05 14:13:13,">>170550072 The thing is that immigration allows for cheap and easy labor, there would be no ancap city that woulden't allow immigration of foreign imports from cheaper sources, because ultimately, the corporations will want to maximize profit, which is what would lead them to do so, then again, you could also become the illiterate slave who is completely disposable to the corporation and has all of his products exported to foreign countries to be sold for dirt cheap.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529593 170523903,170550452,2018-05-05 14:13:28,">>170549868 Anything above that middle line. >>170549999 Working and being loyal to an employer who pays you appropriately suits your own self-interest, slaving away for a nation that will rob ya' of yer' rights and humanity does not, it does just that, enslaves you.",,Anonymous,gay test.png,qoa1dPFne/TZnPKERDx3ng==,,,1525529608 170523903,170550496,2018-05-05 14:13:58,">>170550415 please tell me nazbol isnt a real thing",,Anonymous,nazbol1.jpg,bgzvecxPHeFNyXz1RKKWUQ==,GB,,1525529638 170523903,170550500,2018-05-05 14:14:03,">>170523903 >Discussion Topic: Borders, Borders, Borders Edition: Are borders as they presently exist, the geographical divides between states' areas of jurisdiction, valid for being the property of the taxpayer or invalid for being the property of the state? hmm really makes me think even though ti literally doesn't matter",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525529643 170523903,170550582,2018-05-05 14:14:56,">>170550496 Social Nationalism... in other words, Stalinism, NAZBOL is a meme.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529696 170523903,170550625,2018-05-05 14:15:22,">>170550415 I bought my house, it's my private property, but I cannot paint it in red on the outside because my contract forbids it. Private cities would work the same way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529722 170523903,170550726,2018-05-05 14:16:33,">>170550452 (lol",,Anonymous,1523097109903.jpg,+AudmVlenAmXDCwxdrwhBg==,GB,,1525529793 170523903,170550793,2018-05-05 14:17:22,">>170547167 Civilized vs. savage interpretations of ""liberty"". >Right-wing You are free to do as you please, so as long as you do not aggress against others. Non-ancaps may have add in caveats e.g. minarchists want a central police/court system, classical liberals want emergency services, etc. >Left-wing You are free to do as you please, so long as you do not defend yourself from the syndicates, unions, communes, etc. that want your stuff.",,Anonymous,0f11551708bfdad8fb64000f10f9d55d8fb2ca4900778a8c1a5d3bf71b47d30a.png,7xwizWdm2659ZaWUSvgCEA==,US,,1525529842 170523903,170550903,2018-05-05 14:18:30,">>170550432 >The thing is that immigration allows for cheap and easy labor, there would be no ancap city that woulden't allow immigration of foreign imports from cheaper sources There would, because people don't like to live surrounded by immigrants, higher crime, higher amount of conflicts. There's a reason even the most liberal people threatened to move to Canada if Trump won instead of threatening to move to Mexico, when confronted to voting with your feet, everyone looks for safety, and immigration is the opposite, city proprietors would know this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529910 170523903,170550906,2018-05-05 14:18:34,">>170550452 People who don’t want to serve their nation deserve to be enslaved.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529914 170523903,170550983,2018-05-05 14:19:23,">>170550496 NAZBOL is the ideology for the 21st century.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529963 170523903,170550996,2018-05-05 14:19:30,">>170550906 this but with god and they should be exiled",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525529970 170523903,170551016,2018-05-05 14:19:47,">>170550625 Then it’s not your property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525529987 170523903,170551075,2018-05-05 14:20:29,">>170550906 Fuck does the nation do for me? I owe nothing to those who take my shit and threaten to throw me in a cage like an animal. I don't owe society anything. I serve myself and those who benefit me in serving.",,Anonymous,9183274.jpg,pLrF5+Hd0yT9LHBfwoZQhg==,,,1525530029 170523903,170551082,2018-05-05 14:20:34,">>170550625 >its his private property >cant do what he wants with it ????????",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525530034 170523903,170551213,2018-05-05 14:22:11,">>170550903 Are you sure about the actuality of that statement? These days most people aren't really against immigration, some are just against the illegal form, while people don't like mexico because it has the undenyable reputation of being a shithole over run by the cartels.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525530131 170523903,170551350,2018-05-05 14:23:54,">>170551075 Yhea because those government enforced work benefits, welfare from the state, and laws preventing you from being practically enslaved by a business sure did nothing for you did they?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525530234 170523903,170551478,2018-05-05 14:25:28,">>170551075 Into the gulag with you. You will be lobotomized to prevent any further anti nationalist thoughts so that you can concentrate on performing labor for the interest of the people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525530328 170523903,170551664,2018-05-05 14:27:25,">>170551213 But Mexico is a shithole because it's full of brown people. You know it, I know it, the leftists might ignore it but they're wise enough to know they don't want to live there. A private city might allow unrestricted immigration, sure, they will turn into a shithole quickly and then nobody will want to live in it. Thus, it's easy to conclude that some smarter businessman will buy that city for cheap, restrict immigration, and see how the property's value rises over time. In Ancap, private city owners are encouraged to grow their cities value, and you cannot do that with unrestricted immigration and brown manlets running free.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525530445 170523903,170551874,2018-05-05 14:29:56,"Just made this, I though the tread could use some aesthetic",,Anonymous,20180505_142544.jpg,9S92sBw1ZQuxn0j8uQTqRQ==,US,,1525530596 170523903,170552026,2018-05-05 14:31:39,">>170551350 >welfare from the state I don't get jack shit from the state, actually, I have to pay taxes to serve leaches who the government created. >government enforced work benefits >laws preventing you from being practically enslaved by a business Good thing I work for myself and not (((some crony capitalist))) Frankenstein the government created. >>170551478 Yeah, fuck off, your misconceptions that nationalism = slavery sicken me. You'll get your ride when the time comes.",,Anonymous,liberty vs leftypol.jpg,1mpRZgRX4iuQnaoiTq+88g==,,,1525530699 170523903,170552109,2018-05-05 14:32:40,">>170551664 And are all you willing to do is make assumptions? How do you know the corporations won't prosper as a result of these policies, even if all these symptoms come to fruition? Like that of los angels, NYC, miami, chicago, and san francisco? All that would be changed would be the implementation of early industrial revolution conditions in these cities.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525530760 170523903,170552330,2018-05-05 14:35:08,">>170552026 So you are angry that you have to pay taxes so that people aren't actually enslaved by corporations? Wow, you really seem like a generic portrayal by the communists of what a business owner is, guess they weren't actually wrong in that assumption.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525530908 170523903,170552331,2018-05-05 14:35:08,">>170552026 You are a filthy anti nationalist and also a sodomite as your image shows. Enemies of the people will be converted biomechanically so that the only thing they know is to serve the nation. No more perversion! No more dissent! No more sense of self!",,Anonymous,,,,,1525530908 170523903,170552418,2018-05-05 14:36:11,">>170551664 You know that won’t happen because different cities will form cartels and because of the prisoners dilemma.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525530971 170523903,170552562,2018-05-05 14:37:50,">>170552418 Who's to say that corporations and cartels woulden't partner in an ancap world?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525531070 170523903,170552868,2018-05-05 14:41:00,">>170552562 Oh, I meant cartel as in the dictionary definition of the word, an agreement between corporations to work for each otherks benefit over the consumer. Also don’t worry about my previous bants about hitler, was just shitposting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525531260 170523903,170552957,2018-05-05 14:42:09,">>170552868 Ahh....",,Anonymous,,,,,1525531329 170523903,170553755,2018-05-05 14:51:24,">>170552957 Does the mention of cartel make all ancaps leave like flies? What the fuck, this is basic game theory.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525531884 170523903,170553846,2018-05-05 14:52:14,">>170533546 Do you honestly think that this is a refutation? Did you even read these articles?",,Anonymous,1441740588776.jpg,HwkDAEx8ksbLOBKczoAwRw==,IE,,1525531934 170523903,170554212,2018-05-05 14:56:27,">>170553755 I'm just waiting for someone to comment on my aesthetic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525532187 170523903,170554329,2018-05-05 14:57:55,">>170541820 If you knew anything about Rothbard you would know that he hung out with David Duke and was sympathetic to white nationalism. Mises was highly sympathetic to Hitler. Friedman had ties to Pinochet. Libertarians are the only ones woke on how the jews steal your value through fractional reserve banking.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1525532275 170523903,170554435,2018-05-05 14:59:20,">>170547777 tl;dr wasted digits",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525532360 170523903,170554732,2018-05-05 15:02:28,">>170523903 Boarders are necessary regardless of the form of government. Ultimately, you can't expect to retain a system, if you permit entry into that system by those who wish the alter the system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525532548 170523903,170554778,2018-05-05 15:02:56,">>170549247 oh no no no no HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525532576 170523903,170555014,2018-05-05 15:05:33,">>170547777 >be British >be the most statist society in the west >all of this is happening to you right now >>170547777 >still talk about the horrors of small government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525532733 170523903,170555031,2018-05-05 15:05:46,">>170550983 How do I join the NAZBOL gang?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525532746 170523903,170555305,2018-05-05 15:08:37,Keep it up boys,,Anonymous,1490625341072.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,US,,1525532917 170523903,170555368,2018-05-05 15:09:11,">>170555031 You need to shitpost very hard. Think you’ve got what it takes?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525532951 170523903,170556225,2018-05-05 15:17:31,">>170523903 Wow since I got banned from your gay discord your OP has gotten even worse.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525533451 170523903,170557780,2018-05-05 15:34:53,">>170555014 statism is shit. We need RULE OF LAW. Not polycentric untested cosmopolitan utopian nonsense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525534493 170523903,170558358,2018-05-05 15:41:31,">>170549715 What's wrong with being a cog in the machine? As long as my nation is fighting for the well being and preservation of my people, I have no problem being a small part in a collective.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525534891 170612700,170612700,2018-05-06 02:47:20,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1503045544762.png,EuWbPq02XTvjWXslLGhJtg==,,,1525574840 170612700,170612828,2018-05-06 02:49:37,">>170612700 >roads stupid",,Anonymous,,,,,1525574977 170612700,170612932,2018-05-06 02:51:15,">>170612700 AWE FUCKING SOME KEEP /lrg/ GOING LADS",,Anonymous,1524952233203.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1525575075 170612700,170612938,2018-05-06 02:51:25,Glorious free market of children.,,Anonymous,1478787475678.png,wCY8T89fajyas8sKxABwHg==,,,1525575085 170612700,170613020,2018-05-06 02:52:49,">>170612938 children are property",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575169 170612700,170613025,2018-05-06 02:52:54,">>170612932 YEAH BUDDY",,Anonymous,835acc381107493cb31f40139fddbee329795b4e5f9b16ecae42012e7c4136c2.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,,,1525575174 170612700,170613090,2018-05-06 02:54:01,">>170612938 Fuck off or we'll give your commie rat ass and your strawman friend a free heli ride.",,Anonymous,1525377452166.jpg,kZTz1bRS2wq9pbPoMJAryg==,DE,,1525575241 170612700,170613121,2018-05-06 02:54:40,">>170612932 >monarchist disgusting",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575280 170612700,170613126,2018-05-06 02:54:42,">>170612700 here's another flowchart also, Economics in one lessons (hazlitt) is a must-read, it should be on recommended reading on the OP",,Anonymous,1490555959619.jpg,7mmK2z2a1blJag3jIFtTig==,AR,,1525575282 170612700,170613148,2018-05-06 02:55:06,">>170613025 Mises and Ayn Rand both supported free migration. Does that mean they're not ""libertarian right""?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575306 170612700,170613288,2018-05-06 02:57:46,">>170613121 Suck my regal knob. I own the land you just lease it from me. If you dont like it you dont have to do buisiness with me. This also means you dont get the use of my land.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575466 170612700,170613319,2018-05-06 02:58:14,">>170613090 you should be allowed to sell babies that you wanted aborted on the black market",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575494 170612700,170613376,2018-05-06 02:59:26,">>170613288 can i do whatever i want on said leased land",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575566 170612700,170613466,2018-05-06 03:00:55,"The freer the economy, the better it is.",,Anonymous,BRE33.png,bk3htQLBtSvTasFzejjkew==,AR,,1525575655 170612700,170613468,2018-05-06 03:00:56,">>170613376 So long as it doesnt break the conditions of the contract. If it does i will use my privately owned arny to evict you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575656 170612700,170613485,2018-05-06 03:01:21,">>170613126 MES-era Rothbard, Bryan Caplan, Ludwig von Mises, Michael Huemer, Walter Block, David Friedman, Samuel Konkin, Robert Murphy and Gustave de Molinari, Ayn Rand all support free migration.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575681 170612700,170613514,2018-05-06 03:01:58,">>170613148 Ludwig Von Mises was a genius who theorized some the most fundamental ideas in this field of thought. It would be stupid to write his immense legacy off just because his opinion is different in one area. Also, keep in mind immigration wasn't the colossal problem it is today in his time.",,Anonymous,03C9B09646D349EE82729620571D7BAB.png,CY7XUR3Pbb21z5bJL4bE/A==,,,1525575718 170612700,170613529,2018-05-06 03:02:08,>>170613466,,Anonymous,HKVE.jpg,4jw0czZTfdzNZKqGDXKBwA==,,,1525575728 170612700,170613563,2018-05-06 03:02:48,">>170613468 that makes you a statist",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575768 170612700,170613582,2018-05-06 03:03:13,">>170613466 There was also high human development after the intial 5 year plans lead by stalin it wasnt sustainable. Welfare states will collapse on themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575793 170612700,170613616,2018-05-06 03:03:48,">>170613466 Why don't you fit a regression model? I guess none of those dozens of economics books you read taught you anything about statistical analysis.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575828 170612700,170613743,2018-05-06 03:06:09,">>170613563 Not at all you are free to enter into a contract for the use of my land. If you break terms of our agreement i am going to use my privately owned and payed for army to protect my property. In short dont do anything on the land that breaks the contract you entered.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525575969 170612700,170613772,2018-05-06 03:06:49,,,Anonymous,1487277132438.png,UQq8tHZ+rIL1NpIdBq5KtA==,,,1525576009 170612700,170613778,2018-05-06 03:06:57,Can't wait to pick up pure coke and full autos in the grocery store and heading to my mansion to fuck my CRISPR genetically engineered gf,,Anonymous,27575265_2118164671751320_2528939995868168192_n.jpg,FX9QrbFikZgGc56Fvj08Aw==,,,1525576017 170612700,170613827,2018-05-06 03:07:53,">>170613743 you use contract instead of laws and privately owned army instead of police or army",,Anonymous,,,,,1525576073 170612700,170613926,2018-05-06 03:09:16,">>170613778 >genetically engineered gf we should invade incel boards desu. The commies are already doing it, promising state promised relationships.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525576156 170612700,170614030,2018-05-06 03:11:06,">>170613616 welp, i'm not an econometrician could you do it for me? ps: it also seems like you misquoted me above",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1525576266 170612700,170614081,2018-05-06 03:12:06,">>170613827 Well how would you go about securing your private property fron shit tenants in an ancap society?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525576326 170612700,170614254,2018-05-06 03:14:48,">>170614081 not have fucking tenants but collectively share it with friends and guns",,Anonymous,,,,,1525576488 170612700,170614308,2018-05-06 03:15:42,">>170614254 >share Show flag commie",,Anonymous,,,,,1525576542 170612700,170614485,2018-05-06 03:18:38,">>170614308 i meant own",,Anonymous,,,,,1525576718 170612700,170614781,2018-05-06 03:24:27,tfw no anti-com gf,,Anonymous,2e54a6e899c4b787b3744126a0a66d3785262790b69c6ef81ecb878eb3111b9d.jpg,zss24jTQqMmiCEGd9SlxhQ==,,,1525577067 170612700,170614858,2018-05-06 03:26:04,">>170614485 >i meant own Said share. Kek the commie backpedaling. Even if you (((collectively))) own it with your friends how do you then handle and manage that land and people that want to do buisiness with you for it or the use of it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525577164 170612700,170614869,2018-05-06 03:26:22,">>170613485 Okay? Most of us here don't",,Anonymous,,,,,1525577182 170612700,170614923,2018-05-06 03:27:25,">>170614781 Where can i buy this shirt",,Anonymous,,,,,1525577245 170612700,170614950,2018-05-06 03:27:50,">>170612700 Minarchist here. Bumping for Nazi salt. Helicopter all Commies.",,Anonymous,1525382760389-pol.jpg,hFdQL+hZmNCrGasQg91f7w==,US,,1525577270 170612700,170614975,2018-05-06 03:28:26,">>170614781 <3",,Anonymous,,,,,1525577306 170612700,170615201,2018-05-06 03:32:45,">>170614858 Such details should be spelled out in the contract by which you and your friends purchased the land.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525577565 170612700,170615349,2018-05-06 03:35:33,">>170615201 And if the contract is broken?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525577733 170612700,170615415,2018-05-06 03:36:46,">>170614950 >criticize Nazi's and Communists for mass murder >advocate the murder of Communists Nice doublethink.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525577806 170612700,170615532,2018-05-06 03:39:01,">>170615415 Commies aren't people tho.",,Anonymous,i3u6ef91yh8z.jpg,Gf618wg88h2DsgqgccTOQQ==,,,1525577941 170612700,170615695,2018-05-06 03:41:37,">>170612700 free will doesn't exist so lmao @ ""rational choice theory""",,Anonymous,krautfeels.gif,jgZwEGD9UroWKvfvy+pDiQ==,US,,1525578097 170612700,170615743,2018-05-06 03:42:16,">>170614858 they can get their own land or establish what they want and reason for entry",,Anonymous,,,,,1525578136 170612700,170615783,2018-05-06 03:43:03,">>170615532 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XxYwWg7F8I",,Anonymous,,,,,1525578183 170612700,170615922,2018-05-06 03:45:26,">>170615349 This should also be spelled out in the contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525578326 170612700,170616000,2018-05-06 03:46:49,">>170615743 >they can get their own land The land that they want is yours you are unwilling to sell but will lease it to them >or establish what they want and reason for entry They want to use your land for their own personal and private use do you have the right to be questioning the a private individual about their private and personal matters, statist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525578409 170612700,170616025,2018-05-06 03:47:14,">>170612700 Find a good wife losers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_g58kzSs1U",,Anonymous,c434f1c6f1943e09107c4ff7368df11b--raver-girl-rogue-fitness.jpg,avhA5jUB0de6K0xLZW/pmw==,,,1525578434 170612700,170616095,2018-05-06 03:48:20,">>170615415 Slaughter of Communists is merely proactive self-defense. They have proven to be an inevitable threat numerous times. I have no interest in letting such cancer remain untreated so that it may metastasize.",,Anonymous,sharememe0741883563.jpg,egGl89HAFVOEQAA8voM9ag==,US,,1525578500 170612700,170616107,2018-05-06 03:48:34,">>170615695 Then you being brutally dismembered, tortured, and raped before being skinned alive and eaten slowly by hundreds of centipedes isn't wrong, since it was going to happen anyway and there was never a choice on anyone's part in the matter.",,Praceteom,1510431401050.jpg,vz7nvFqX9fpWzqdlNEYvmg==,,,1525578514 170612700,170616165,2018-05-06 03:49:42,">>170616000 they can kill me and my friends to take my land or have things to trade i will not trade my land",,Anonymous,,,,,1525578582 170612700,170616185,2018-05-06 03:50:01,">>170615922 Well in my contract i forcefully evict them with my private army. But for some reason thats statist. See >>170613468 >>170613563 I am waiting for somebody to tell me what the non ""statist"" answer to people breaking the terms of the contract to protect my private property is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525578601 170612700,170616335,2018-05-06 03:52:27,,,Anonymous,22448229_1473119169423064_3730758414474851602_n.png,qVuUnuV1qUum9uutqmIljg==,DE,,1525578747 170612700,170616354,2018-05-06 03:52:48,,,Anonymous,1525157991159.jpg,8Gm0k3gE3mDPEr/LyvjKnA==,DE,,1525578768 170612700,170616384,2018-05-06 03:53:33,">>170616335 Holy shit this is golden",,Anonymous,1523031844864.png,VWhQkOvGws9Ngf7JNHy0sA==,DE,,1525578813 170612700,170616386,2018-05-06 03:53:34,">>170616185 >what the non ""statist"" answer to people breaking the terms of the contract to protect my private property is There's tons of different answers. All of them would be unpleasant to you assuming the other party is hostile, but that doesn't make them non-answers.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525578814 170612700,170616407,2018-05-06 03:54:01,">>170616165 Well i do want to lease my land i cant work it myself i also. So tell me how do i protect my property when the contract is broken.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525578841 170612700,170616414,2018-05-06 03:54:08,">>170616185 not have people on your property who pay you but having them as equals and not giving out our land like a stacy does with her body",,Anonymous,,,,,1525578848 170612700,170616462,2018-05-06 03:55:02,">>170616386 >There's tons of different answers. List them",,Anonymous,,,,,1525578902 170612700,170616463,2018-05-06 03:55:05,,,Anonymous,1522739425866.jpg,tQnIkbdpfoTVQ5Ey+7aazQ==,DE,,1525578905 170612700,170616517,2018-05-06 03:56:09,,,Anonymous,1520265268889.png,FTtHbltaLv+ftQV4aqx2UA==,DE,,1525578969 170612700,170616521,2018-05-06 03:56:11,">>170612932 A lynch mob comprised of locals has every right to act against criminal elements within their community",,Anonymous,1505624730532.jpg,F0o9giOFXrbLLZCTPb8P2A==,US,,1525578971 170612700,170616611,2018-05-06 03:57:54,,,Anonymous,1525144365961.png,HVQ1SLvIfWarjKleiHc8bg==,US,,1525579074 170612700,170616665,2018-05-06 03:59:02,">>170616185 This depends entirely on the nature and details of the contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525579142 170612700,170616690,2018-05-06 03:59:44,">>170616462 Keep negotiating. Forgive them. Ruin their reputation. Share the property. Forfeit the property. Sell the property to another party whose problem is then theirs and not yours.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525579184 170612700,170616753,2018-05-06 04:01:08,">>170613466 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ease_of_doing_business_index True",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525579268 170612700,170616796,2018-05-06 04:02:18,">>170616414 My land is my income revenue. I own it and lease it to people who make money off it. It is profitable to do buisiness in this manner. They carry tge risk of ygeir buisness venture not me. I carry the risk of them breaking the contract for the use of my land. A risk substantially lesser than theirs as my land will still be owned by me if they fuck it up. Bit it is still a risk. How do i protect my asset?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525579338 170612700,170616863,2018-05-06 04:03:33,">>170614781 >Dark lipstick and dark hair Hnnnnnnggggggg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525579413 170612700,170616866,2018-05-06 04:03:40,">>170616463 >>170616517 Ältere Strohmänner hast du Kommie nicht gefunden? Ab in den Heli mit dir.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525579420 170612700,170616895,2018-05-06 04:04:05,">>170614950 I would consider myself a minarchist who is very sympathetic to many of Hitler's ideas",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525579445 170612700,170616971,2018-05-06 04:05:35,">>170616895 Aka you're a Hoppean. Read his stuff.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525579535 170612700,170616998,2018-05-06 04:06:08,">>170616895 So you're willing to pretend other people can be justified in extorting you or otherwise threatening you with violence for not obeying their arbitrary whims.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525579568 170612700,170617069,2018-05-06 04:07:46,">>170613778 >>170613926 Greetings far right amigos. I am pleased to see /lrg/ on pol again. Not here to debate politics tonight, I just seek your opinion on one thing mates. How does the libertarian right view MGTOW? Seems to me MGTOW & /lrg/ have, at the core, a fairly similar attitude toward the world... not cucking for anyone (not even Das Fuhrer!) I admire and respect it, though I would hope you would fight by my side in the Race War, as I would help you with RWDS physical removals, and/or roastie crusades when the AI wombs & sexbots finally arrive. Keen to hear what you guys think about my outside observation.",,Anonymous,image.png,qQLiiEU1+K8oSZVnE+Itcw==,,,1525579666 170612700,170617104,2018-05-06 04:08:31,">>170616971 I have, I like him and a lot of the Austrian economics. I was trying to justify to my family today why the US should have never entered WWII >>170616998 Minarchist, not anarchist. The founders believed in very little central authority while agreeing to the social contract",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525579711 170612700,170617114,2018-05-06 04:08:43,">>170616866 Willst du mich verraschen? Das ist nocht nicht mal gegen ancap. Ich würde solches verhalten beführworten.",,Anonymous,1517685695736.png,JCH3ULkCq6Int1n184Nw0Q==,DE,,1525579723 170612700,170617128,2018-05-06 04:09:00,">>170617104 >Minarchist, not anarchist So like I said - you're willing to pretend other people can be justified in extorting you or otherwise threatening you with violence for not obeying their arbitrary whims.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525579740 170612700,170617130,2018-05-06 04:09:01,">>170616690 >Keep negotiating. Negotiations have failed its costing me real money now. >Forgive them. They obviously cant afford to fix their fuckup and are refusing to vacate, once again costing ne money >Ruin their reputation Still doesnt help ne get paid does it. >Share the property. Communism >Forfeit the property. Not volunatry its my property which means its THEFT >Sell the property to another party whose problem is then theirs and not yours. My property is valued lower because of squatters. Sonebidy still jas to get them off the land they don't own. My private army is still the best option.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525579741 170612700,170617169,2018-05-06 04:09:49,">>170617130 I told you you wouldn't like the answers if the other party was hostile. Again - that does not make them non-answers.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525579789 170612700,170617275,2018-05-06 04:12:01,">>170617169 True. my private army must be valid then",,Anonymous,,,,,1525579921 170612700,170617336,2018-05-06 04:13:30,">>170617275 Depends on the morality. I think all violence is categorically wicked, and that the response to evil is not more evil. I don't expect other people to be non-animals and actually abide by real, righteous moral principles though.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525580010 170612700,170617356,2018-05-06 04:13:56,">>170617169 Sure. I'm not full ancap. Is that what you were trying to get me to say in you're incredibly biased way? That's like a communist trying to get you to admit to being a capitalist based on their very specific conditions on what a capitalist is. I'm not an ancap tripfag",,Anonymous,1498965279129.jpg,vptIgl7MYPNz1tL+LLK1dQ==,US,,1525580036 170612700,170617442,2018-05-06 04:15:38,,,Anonymous,1502602540242.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1525580138 170612700,170617460,2018-05-06 04:15:58,,,Anonymous,1518595438077.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1525580158 170612700,170617473,2018-05-06 04:16:10,">>170617356 >Sure Good for you, ceding decisions about your life to random strangers you don't know and will never know, and who would demand your obedience whether you actually gave it to them or not. Truly the most moral and trustworthy bunch, and who will surely never do anything wicked or self-serving, ever.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525580170 170612700,170617489,2018-05-06 04:16:31,,,Anonymous,1501468058560.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1525580191 170612700,170617514,2018-05-06 04:16:55,,,Anonymous,1507342346012.png,6EjPcmOBpqKCNCRlcKaPKA==,US,,1525580215 170612700,170617520,2018-05-06 04:17:13,,,Anonymous,1501467891001.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,US,,1525580233 170612700,170617551,2018-05-06 04:17:45,">>170617336 Its morally neutral. I own the land they have broken the terms of the contract and refuse to vacate. The contract stated force would be used to secure the land in the event of a breach.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525580265 170612700,170617562,2018-05-06 04:17:58,,,Anonymous,1507961870296.jpg,IZH5oh46vH/LkvmhKwEkPw==,US,,1525580278 170612700,170617572,2018-05-06 04:18:17,,,Anonymous,DLFQRceUQAAqKp3.jpg,syUE18k+rCwMLMJNopv8GA==,US,,1525580297 170612700,170617617,2018-05-06 04:19:08,">>170617473 Do you realize how passive aggressive and cunty you sound right now? I don't fucking care what your warped theoretical conception of the world is,",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525580348 170612700,170617621,2018-05-06 04:19:09,,,Anonymous,1502615995925.jpg,E8M+mukbtLha07KfLw31pQ==,US,,1525580349 170612700,170617651,2018-05-06 04:19:59,">>170617489 What are you doing?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525580399 170612700,170617662,2018-05-06 04:20:15,>>170617562,,Anonymous,1521430624830.png,nTXACFquZdOutGYS0OKdXg==,US,,1525580415 170612700,170617684,2018-05-06 04:20:35,">>170617551 >Its morally neutral Nah. The thieves are sinning, and if you try to murder or beat them you're sinning too. The word ""categorically"" I think might have been jargon to you.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525580435 170612700,170617711,2018-05-06 04:21:09,">>170613778 >genetic engineering if i detect evidence you have mutated viruses by genetic engineering and they get anywhere near me you have violated the NAP and i will shoot you",,Anonymous,,,,,1525580469 170612700,170617744,2018-05-06 04:21:50,">>170617617 I couldn't give less of a shit about how some random thinks I'm typing. You want to empower thugs to be thugs and get away with it - as far as I'm concerned, you're a supporter of slavery and murder.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525580510 170612700,170617825,2018-05-06 04:23:18,">>170612700 Started a new thread here about an interesting idea: >>170617264 Libertarian / NatSoc Compromise Just spitballing. Could it work?",,Anonymous,2hplmcl.jpg,GsBlNvCkmC7Tmcc+adfxxA==,US,,1525580598 170612700,170617833,2018-05-06 04:23:32,">>170617744 >you're a supporter of slavery and murder There you go, sounding like a pearl-clutching faggot again. Drop the tripcode and the memeflag Lev",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525580612 170612700,170617865,2018-05-06 04:24:08,">>170617069 I am not a supporter of MGTOW, as much as I hate most women today. I believe strongly in the nuclear family and I am looking forward to finding a wonderful woman and having children with her.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525580648 170612700,170617895,2018-05-06 04:24:42,">>170617114 Ok, sorry. Normalerweise posten die Ancoms diese pics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525580682 170612700,170617904,2018-05-06 04:24:54,">>170616971 Hoppe is an anarchist, he is not a Hoppean.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525580694 170612700,170617977,2018-05-06 04:26:07,">>170612700 Anarcho-capitalism defines the natural state of man, Christ’s teaching for a godly being and the path towards greatest prosperity. It leads to mass awakening through action upon virtue, all win-win. These are all truth statements; i.e. backed by emperical evidence and unconditionally correct. I am drunk, worked 60 hours this week and can still argue my way out of a guillotine, my favorite means of self-defense for socialists. I am a voluntarist. BTW, lets rebrand to voluntarist like James Corbett says... Cheers mate.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525580767 170612700,170618008,2018-05-06 04:26:43,">>170616796 As a Minarchist Libertarian, I see us still having a very limited government. One function would be contract enforcement. However, this can still be accomplished with private security forces who would act as co-signatorey to contracts. Both sides would know the consequences of breaking the contract and the security force would have legitimate authority to apply those consequences, by force if necessary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525580803 170612700,170618029,2018-05-06 04:27:07,,,Anonymous,1525514966017.jpg,z+Ngg5dMAL0DWcyM+jwPRw==,UA,,1525580827 170612700,170618089,2018-05-06 04:28:36,">>170612700 NAZBOL gang seizes this thread!",,Anonymous,,,,,1525580916 170612700,170618123,2018-05-06 04:29:21,">>170616895 Uncle Adolf wasn't all bad. That being said, I don't endorse ANY authoritarianism or socialism. Also, Nazi volk seem to have a special hate-hardon for Libertarians so I was predicting such vitriol and taunting them.",,Anonymous,1520406409837-pol.jpg,yMLvd+Osci277a+CGNn0IQ==,US,,1525580961 170612700,170618146,2018-05-06 04:29:43,">>170617833 If you support people with special titles having special unique magical powers of being legitimate in attacking people (which is ALL states) then you're an awful person. I'm sick ""tip-toe'ing"" around the issue of you CREEPS unironically supporting political goons and thugs lording over other people - if you give license to THUGS to BE THUGS, then they WILL BE THUGS. The biggest fucking experiment in ""limited government"" ever - the U.S. - has laughably resulted in the largest, most evil, and obtrusive state that has ever existed, and you think you can get any other result even when the supposed ""limiting principles"" are ALWAYS ignored with NO PENALTY when the thugs find it's more convenient. Fuck off.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525580983 170612700,170618196,2018-05-06 04:30:33,">>170617684 >to let the thieves steal from you out of some misguided sense of moral righteousness. This is why the modern day state gaurentees your private property. Uour too toothless to protect ot yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525581033 170612700,170618301,2018-05-06 04:32:08,">>170618146 Agreeing to the social contract doesn't make me an authoritarian retard, that's all I ever endorsed. Stop being a sperg",,Anonymous,1492970368685.jpg,96xd2cr6CWPGOtuORnqTsQ==,US,,1525581128 170612700,170618336,2018-05-06 04:32:43,">>170613466 Except if you're Norway, because we have oil and isn't an islamic state (yet)",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1525581163 170612700,170618368,2018-05-06 04:33:22,">>170618008 Enforce or don't enforce your own fucking contracts. >>170618196 I'm a Christian. My first visceral inclination would be to beat anyone who fucked with my family or property to a bloody pulp or murder them like the unthinking animals they probably are. It's DESPITE what I feel like doing that I'm sticking to the moral commands of my GOD that I'm a pacifist. You think anyone WANTS to be a pacifist you're off your fucking rocker.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525581202 170612700,170618383,2018-05-06 04:33:37,">>170617128 As I see it, the only appropriate use of authority is in defense of Liberty. The Minarchist ideal is the ""night watchman"" state that does nothing but prevent absolute chaos (anarchy) and predation (warlordism), and literally nothing else. This jibes with the NAP and the natural right of self-defense: authorizing the state to defend you just as you would likewise defend any other innocent under attack. Does this seem legit?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525581217 170612700,170618448,2018-05-06 04:34:44,">>170618301 There is no social contract. I can not remember signing one. What are the terms and conditions? If the generation before racks up massive debt I'm forced to pay off, is that a violation of said vague and fictive contract?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525581284 170612700,170618474,2018-05-06 04:35:06,">>170618301 >Agreeing to the social contract No - you want to make OTHER people who haven't agreed to SHIT be under the purview of thugs along with you. You're not so sane as to exclude dissenting neighbors from the rules of the rulers you want enforcing rules on THEM too. Paternalist freak.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525581306 170612700,170618648,2018-05-06 04:38:00,">>170618383 If a group of people doesn't extort or pretend to have legitimacy in doing certain things to other people that they'll hold other people aren't legitimate in doing to other people, there's no state. Would your ""night watchment"" extort payment from people, whether they wanted to buy their services or not? Also take this scenario - the whole neighborhood sees Bob steal Joe's car. Bob parks Joe's car in his garage. If Joe goes to get his car back, are you in favor of your ""night watchmen"" attacking Joe?",,Praceteom,,,,,1525581480 170612700,170618673,2018-05-06 04:38:35,">>170617684 You seem to be conflating Libertarianism with Pacifism. We are not opposed to using Force, only to the illegitimate use of Force (violence).",,Anonymous,1522456870587-pol.jpg,F9G50evl9nsTqeAt4+fQkw==,US,,1525581515 170612700,170618708,2018-05-06 04:39:12,">>170618673 No, I'm a libertarian who IS a pacifist. You've gotten lost.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525581552 170612700,170618718,2018-05-06 04:39:29,">>170612700 Why are all Libertarians Jews? Could it be because they want to fool you into your ""muh individualism"" so that they can divide and conquer? Ask can a Jew ever be an individual himself or is he part of the (((tribe)))? Kow tow to your Jewish elite corporate monarchies little good goys. (((Milo Yiannopoulos))), (((Ayn Rand))), (((Ben Shepiro))), (((Dave Rubin))), (((Dennis Prager))), (((Yaron Brook))), (((Milton Friedman))), (((Murray Rothbard))), (((Irving Kristol))), (((Bill Kristol))) (((Ludwig von Mises))) (((Melanie Phillips))). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7xEJeM7cM",,Anonymous,Political_chart4.png,IvZSHsrkj42ybRS+JH5GmQ==,US,,1525581569 170612700,170618798,2018-05-06 04:41:02,">>170617865 That being said, MGTOW is am entirely personal choice which must be left up to the individual, and ultimately none of my business if some else chooses to live that way. You are free to advocate and enact any personal choice you prefer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525581662 170612700,170618862,2018-05-06 04:42:03,">>170618474 Calling them thugs and me a paternalistic freak just makes you look more immature. It's literally commie-tier arguments couching everything in pathos. Your main point would be more compelling with that faggotry >>170618448 Fine, break the social contract and see how collective society responds. The social contract has been crafted over thousands of years of civilizational development and if you think you're smarter than that then you are truly arrogant",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525581723 170612700,170618903,2018-05-06 04:42:53,">>170617865 Thanks mate, appreciate the answer. You probably know the Libertarian Right far better than me, so do you think the majority would hold a similar view to yourself? I see your point very clearly. The nuclear family is the best environment to raise non-degenerate law abiding kids. I too would like to do the same thing as you and have a family. Yet MGTOW also have a point, western women are terrible rn and the legal system/state will help them ruin your life on a whim. Every time I see those ""man child"" threads that demand to know why we aren't breeding... It's because it has become ridiculously difficult to find a woman worth starting a family with in the West, not to mention the legal status quo should it not work out i.e divorce rape. We all need a solution to this problem, because we are all facing it as Western men. Was just curious to see what /lrg/ thinks of the situation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525581773 170612700,170618966,2018-05-06 04:44:01,">>170618862 >Calling them thugs I don't know what other name matches a guy who feels like it's completely acceptable for him to beat, murder, and kidnap others who haven't necessarily harmed anyone else because a piece of paper says he can.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525581841 170612700,170619004,2018-05-06 04:44:49,">>170618368 >im christian >You think anyone WANTS to be a pacifist you're off your fucking rocker. Cool insight, heres me. Raised athiest and pacifist. Spent my entire child hood never defending myself. Moral righteousness kept me from ever asserting my personal and private rights. Entire childhood spent in tyranny. I will not be taken advantage of i will not live in tyranny.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525581889 170612700,170619049,2018-05-06 04:45:50,">>170619004 Neat. I wish the best for you in not going to hell. >I don't belie- Good luck with that.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525581950 170612700,170619088,2018-05-06 04:46:46,">>170618718 >why are all libertarians a high IQ minority",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525582006 170612700,170619104,2018-05-06 04:46:59,">>170618966 >I don't know what other name matches a guy who feels like it's completely acceptable for him to beat, murder, and kidnap others who haven't necessarily harmed anyone else because a piece of paper says he can. Again, emotionally charged framing that sounds like leftist cunts saying social justice is great because the other side wants genocide and oppression. Speak like an adult ffs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525582019 170612700,170619128,2018-05-06 04:47:29,">>170618673 My private army is justified. Thanks anon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525582049 170612700,170619144,2018-05-06 04:47:51,">>170618648 >Would your ""night watchment"" extort payment from people, whether they wanted to buy their services or not? Ideally, no. I would hope to have any such force entirely funded by voluntary subscription with complete right to discontinue service. This is one reason I favor private security firms, but ""government"" services could be run the same way (opt out of payment, don't call for help). >Also take this scenario - the whole neighborhood sees Bob steal Joe's car. Bob parks Joe's car in his garage. If Joe goes to get his car back, are you in favor of your ""night watchmen"" attacking Joe? If I lived there and saw Joe's car being stolen, I would go with him to get it back.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525582071 170612700,170619164,2018-05-06 04:48:19,>>170618089,,Anonymous,1525569904701.jpg,xfLqSWaPcLiYgJKIwKsQUg==,,,1525582099 170612700,170619182,2018-05-06 04:48:40,">>170619104 >emotionally charged framing Tell me what cops do - uniquely as cops - that's NOT emotionally charged. Everything they do drips with latent threats of violence. Give us an example of the state doing something without violence or threats of violence.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582120 170612700,170619190,2018-05-06 04:48:49,">>170619049 I said i was raised athiest not that i am one now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525582129 170612700,170619232,2018-05-06 04:49:39,,,Anonymous,libertarians-x750_0.jpg,nu2vfVcjegYV8REzStSapg==,GB,,1525582179 170612700,170619238,2018-05-06 04:49:46,">>170619182 >Tell me what cops do - uniquely as cops - that's NOT emotionally charged. What is? Read the sticky before trying to make me prove a negative",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525582186 170612700,170619268,2018-05-06 04:50:20,">>170618718 75% of the people you listed aren't even libertarians. Here are some founding non-Jewish classical liberals and libertarians. The Spanish Scholastics John Stuart Mills Adam Smith Jean Baptiste Say John Locke Thomas Malthus Gustave de Molinari Carl Menger Eugen Bohm von Bawerk Joseph Schumpeter Friedrich von Wieser Friedrich Hayek Lysander Spooner H.L. Mencken The Founding Fathers. Ricardo was Sephardic but converted to Quakerism. Rand created Objectivism. Friedman was a Monetarist who supported the central bank.",,Anonymous,ae46ec25fda1495a723b4bff122cc35a63c509959a8ac670654f22db6b5b194c.jpg,SKLaGCbGxX+50NwghcPI0Q==,US,,1525582220 170612700,170619277,2018-05-06 04:50:32,">>170619144 >If I lived there and saw Joe's car being stolen You didn't. We'll go with this - Joe saw Bob steal his car, and only Joe saw it. Joe goes to get his car. Can Joe do this without being attacked if your ""night watchmen"" see him going to Bob's garage?",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582232 170612700,170619293,2018-05-06 04:50:50,">>170619232 >gas >the >helicopters",,Anonymous,,,,,1525582250 170612700,170619326,2018-05-06 04:51:28,">>170619238 ? You need to list one thing cops uniquely do that isn't threatening or violent. That's it.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582288 170612700,170619343,2018-05-06 04:51:47,">>170619232 >libertatians. > Snek on a collectivist flag. This is what communist subversion looks like",,Anonymous,,,,,1525582307 170612700,170619379,2018-05-06 04:52:30,">>170619190 I don't know how you'd be a Christian if you support violence against anyone when you're explicitly commanded to love your enemy, to forgive endlessly, and to be infinitely merciful as God is then.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582350 170612700,170619383,2018-05-06 04:52:33,">>170619343 Everyone being a gay tranny polysexual is what radical individualism looks like",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525582353 170612700,170619430,2018-05-06 04:53:43,">>170619326 Read the sticky newfag, it's not that hard >>170619379 You have an incredibly shallow understanding of Christianity",,Anonymous,1493270301103.png,7WSB0uZ+m2eW+4frzzv7qg==,US,,1525582423 170612700,170619433,2018-05-06 04:53:54,">>170619343 The LP is a lost cause, and has been since the beginning.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582434 170612700,170619451,2018-05-06 04:54:07,">>170619277 If there were no police, Bob could get his own car back by legitimate use of force. If there are police (or private security) Bob should call them to do it for him. Let the professionals handle it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525582447 170612700,170619496,2018-05-06 04:55:05,">>170619430 No, other people have an absolutely delusional understanding of Christianity, because they want to excuse their sins instead of living in a manner that'd be personally inconvenient. Cops are thugs - all of their work is thuggery, and none of it isn't.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582505 170612700,170619529,2018-05-06 04:55:45,">>170619383 Nonsense.",,Anonymous,1524920796705-pol.png,mAhXmNk6WgyEG4upYKOlWg==,US,,1525582545 170612700,170619553,2018-05-06 04:56:12,">>170619451 You have ""night watchmen"". What is the ""night watchmen's"" reaction to Bob getting his own property back? Because right now, the cops would attack Bob.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582572 170612700,170619562,2018-05-06 04:56:20,,,Anonymous,1506261886420.jpg,QJeV/xNB2IgkRUic+xG4Ow==,GB,,1525582580 170612700,170619599,2018-05-06 04:56:55,">>170619529 >nonsense",,Anonymous,1523203552706.png,d/64eGEx0cfAbQcU9ZWlyQ==,GB,,1525582615 170612700,170619605,2018-05-06 04:57:05,">>170619326 The police are a state provided force to protect private property. They are also revenue collectors for the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525582625 170612700,170619623,2018-05-06 04:57:23,">>170612700 >LIBERTARIAN RIGHT >right haha",,Anonymous,9+1.png,b5qKJNp1siE5n2jfZjWdmw==,,,1525582643 170612700,170619702,2018-05-06 04:59:09,,,Anonymous,1492445874011.png,/TJL/5JLkMUf1YycnTbzfg==,GB,,1525582749 170612700,170619703,2018-05-06 04:59:09,">>170619379 Read the bible mate. Heres a hint the old testament is just as important as the new.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525582749 170612700,170619704,2018-05-06 04:59:09,">>170619268 Also, if we're talking right now, there's Rockwell, Hoppe, Woods, Murphy, McMaken, Bishop, Deist, Salerno, Rozeff, Di Lorenzo, Shostak, Ron Paul, the list goes on and on. There's actually probably more Jews in the Alt-Right at the moment.",,Anonymous,1517018334680.png,7zpBXGpXYhNir1hnobR3xA==,US,,1525582749 170612700,170619718,2018-05-06 04:59:37,">>170619553 That is an ill-advised move that complicates the situation and puts Joe at unnecessary risk. Boba call for help and police may initially view Joe as trespassing intent on theft. Once Joe explained, and gave proof of ownership, they would side with him and return his stolen property on the spot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525582777 170612700,170619732,2018-05-06 04:59:53,">>170619605 >The police are a state provided force to protect private property But they have no obligation whatsoever to protect private property. They're also the PRIMARY violators of private property - they steal, trespass, and damage property more than any other group besides ""men"" (as in all men) in the U.S.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582793 170612700,170619762,2018-05-06 05:00:17,">>170619433 >getting individualists to agree on anything.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525582817 170612700,170619784,2018-05-06 05:00:40,">>170619599 Yes, they exist. No, that's not what everyone will become. Dingus.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525582840 170612700,170619810,2018-05-06 05:01:05,">>170619703 Bull fucking shit the commands you're supposed to live by are CHRIST'S WORDS. That's why it's the New TESTAMENT - where your most RECENT AND RELEVANT commands from YOUR GOD are found.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582865 170612700,170619847,2018-05-06 05:01:50,">>170619718 I'm no asking what you think about the situation. I'm asking if your ""night watchmen"" attack Bob.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582910 170612700,170619910,2018-05-06 05:03:05,">>170619732 This is a fair point. The politicians have asked touch of the police. This has made them an enemy of the people in enforcing bad laws with improper practices.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525582985 170612700,170619911,2018-05-06 05:03:07,">>170619847 >>170619718 I think I switched the names at some point. I think you can still get what I mean by the context tho.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525582987 170612700,170619926,2018-05-06 05:03:27,">>170619732 Private police wouldn't be able to function at all without violating property rights constantly, therefore your entire ideology is worthless tripe.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525583007 170612700,170619957,2018-05-06 05:04:07,">>170619926 I don't want private police, but good try!",,Praceteom,,,,,1525583047 170612700,170620057,2018-05-06 05:06:16,">>170619810 You sound like a Muslim. Only muhammed words are relevant the bible and torah have been superseded.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525583176 170612700,170620073,2018-05-06 05:06:34,">>170619911 I get it. Joe's car. Bob's garage. I think the police would ask questions, not just attack, but they would expect to have Joe stop and talk. I assume Joe would be happy to see back-up has arrived to assist him. That being said, Joe should not attempt to retrieve his property himself. He should know that this makes the situation worse, not better. He should call the police and go with them to get his car back. Easy peasy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525583194 170612700,170620083,2018-05-06 05:06:51,">>170619957 >I don't want private police Ah yes, random people should be able to dispense instant an instant amount of justice they see fit on whoever they percieve has violated them on the spot",,Anonymous,XIrkTL4.png,n4yyIEaZajJ9Yn0xKr/SMA==,GB,,1525583211 170612700,170620093,2018-05-06 05:07:10,">>170619926 I'm not even an anarchist, but this guy might have something to say about that.",,Anonymous,"51kPe4Gu43L._SX332_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg",SldQLb84BU9AyAChIaPv0Q==,US,,1525583230 170612700,170620176,2018-05-06 05:08:47,">>170620057 The Old Testament is there for context and for whatever laws that aren't overwritten (though shalt not steal never went anywhere). Christ explicitly commands you to love your enemy and to always (always) forgive.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525583327 170612700,170620234,2018-05-06 05:09:57,">>170619926 Of course they can. Also, if the property owner has violated the rights of another they have also surrender a portion of their right to be free from treapassing. This is a matter of proportionality, not absolutism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525583397 170612700,170620282,2018-05-06 05:11:04,">>170620073 >but they would expect to have Joe stop and talk What if Joe didn't want to stop and talk? He was already pissed that Bob stole his car and believes - not really wrongly - that him getting his stolen car back is really not anyone's business. What I want to know is why on earth the police are more legitimate than Joe in getting Joe's property back. Any people who are treated as being able to do ""special"" things that other people aren't allowed to do INEVITABLY abuse people.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525583464 170612700,170620327,2018-05-06 05:12:04,,,Praceteom,1511459133639.png,MkuOOzEnAZItG0V4xcc30A==,,,1525583524 170612700,170620379,2018-05-06 05:13:10,">>170620234 >Also, if the property owner has violated the rights of another they have also surrender a portion of their right to be free from treapassing >what is due process Police arrest suspects. Innocent until proven guilty.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525583590 170612700,170620399,2018-05-06 05:13:33,">>170618089 GANG!!",,Anonymous,,,,,1525583613 170612700,170620401,2018-05-06 05:13:33,">>170619702 >>170619599 Time to stop bong. You are making a fool of yourself.",,Anonymous,9e0.jpg,P7Gg88mSsSo+n6ylwEgiIw==,,,1525583613 170612700,170620462,2018-05-06 05:14:43,">nationalism >capitalism pick only one",,Anonymous,,,,,1525583683 170612700,170620527,2018-05-06 05:15:54,">>170620327 So you agree its a bad thing?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525583754 170612700,170620571,2018-05-06 05:16:51,">>170620527 It's an even worse thing when people think some people are ALLOWED to do it, which is what you have RIGHT NOW.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525583811 170612700,170620883,2018-05-06 05:23:46,">>170620571 Those people are professionals who underwent a selection process, who are entrusted with responsibility, monitored by body cameras and can be fired or punished by the law if they misuse their professional responsibility. The only instant justice they can legally administer are low level tickets or fines which can be disputed through the legal process anyway. People get pissed when police are corrupt or use unnecessary force which is a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525584226 170612700,170621165,2018-05-06 05:29:47,">>170620883 >Those people are professionals They're dressed up thugs. They abuse people constantly, and whenever a cop is around people's lives are almost always made worse by their presence. Cops RARELY see punishment for misconduct because they're the people who DO and WORK WITH causing harm to others for breaking whatever laws might be on books somewhere. Please do not pretend dressing up and wearing a badge confers people with a penchant for good moral conduct. It demonstrably encourages the latter, since they view themselves (and are TREATED) like they're special and able to do special things other people can't, including demanding people's obedience and being allowed to initiate violence against other people that - if other people did the same in return - would be killed or imprisoned.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525584587 170612700,170621388,2018-05-06 05:34:06,">>170612700 You guys have no answer for when corporations form cartels.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525584846 170612700,170621476,2018-05-06 05:35:45,">>170619164 >Le epic globalist Yes we all know you're just the lapdog of large corporations.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525584945 170612700,170621526,2018-05-06 05:36:28,">>170620399 JUCHE GANG",,Anonymous,,,,,1525584988 170612700,170621548,2018-05-06 05:36:46,">>170620462 They are globalist shills.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525585006 170612700,170621579,2018-05-06 05:37:42,">>170621388 we stop buying things from them",,Anonymous,,,,,1525585062 170612700,170621659,2018-05-06 05:38:58,Shut up you economic and social illiterate.,,Anonymous,25659402_1787816944845594_5970812266025891207_n.jpg,i/LxMbMYlZWjKI/Jc6SVBw==,DE,,1525585138 170612700,170621675,2018-05-06 05:39:18,>>170621476,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525585158 170612700,170621704,2018-05-06 05:39:55,">>170621526 SPENT TEN RACKS ON NEW CHAIN",,Anonymous,,,,,1525585195 170612700,170621917,2018-05-06 05:43:44,">>170621704 fuck off commie before i get helicopter",,Anonymous,,,,,1525585424 170612700,170621950,2018-05-06 05:44:26,">>170621579 But you wont tho. Because 1: They can get so large they can literally form a monopoly over a field, and as resources are not infinite if they own all of the possible ways of making something then you cant buy elsewhere or compete. 2. The startup funds may be so high that its practically impossible to compete and so you may just go ""fuck it"" and accept the cartel as your new overlords 3. The resources that the cartels have make it far more convenient to go to them rather than to any hypothetical competition, nipping things in the bud. (e.g like supermarkets)",,Anonymous,,,,,1525585466 170612700,170621980,2018-05-06 05:45:02,">>170621579 >Boycot literally every single company >Starve Why are ancaps so stupid?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525585502 170612700,170621988,2018-05-06 05:45:16,">>170621917 MY BIH LUH DO COCAINE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AMgFyF52q0",,Anonymous,,,,,1525585516 170612700,170622030,2018-05-06 05:46:18,">>170621917 Lmao fuck off globalist before I get the fucking red army.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525585578 170612700,170622377,2018-05-06 05:53:41,">>170613148 And supported people both individually and as part of commune to refuse entry to any group deemed undesirable. How many millions of muslims do you think would have been imported if you had local consultation about it?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525586021 170612700,170622466,2018-05-06 05:55:32,">>170621980 start my own food company",,Anonymous,,,,,1525586132 170612700,170622522,2018-05-06 05:56:44,">>170612700 Jay Dyer BTFO all of you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH6vZvH55Bk&ab_channel=thkelly67 Not that you stupid libtards have enough attention to listen to what he says",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525586204 170612700,170622652,2018-05-06 05:59:22,">>170622466 >start your own food company dood. >Its not like you need a lot of capital in order to buy the machinery and resources that will allow you to turn a profit and thats why most individual farmers only make money because of gov subsidies >its not like you have to compete with larger companies with more developed distribution methods that have deals with food retailers or can outprice you if needs be >dude just plant a crop lmao libertarians",,Anonymous,,,,,1525586362 170612700,170622657,2018-05-06 05:59:30,">>170616095 But that's how communists argue as well. So basically you are not in any form different.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525586370 170612700,170622923,2018-05-06 06:05:14,">>170622652 negro i will become self sufficient is that so hard for your commie mind to understand",,Anonymous,,,,,1525586714 170612700,170623048,2018-05-06 06:07:28,">>170622466 >Start your own food company >Thugs from the local super corporation come and destroy your business Again, why are ancaps so dumb?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525586848 170612700,170623061,2018-05-06 06:07:45,">>170620282 If Joe is intent upon making bad decisions then those decisions will unnecessarily complicate what could be otherwise resolved rather simply. A private security firm worthy of subscription would handle the matter far more safely and swiftly than Joe can on his own. He'd likely have his car back same-day and without even getting off the couch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525586865 170612700,170623184,2018-05-06 06:09:56,">>170622923 Like all libertarians your ideology is based on the false idea that you can be or are self sufficient. Pro tip you arent, we have literally never been self sufficient past hunter gatherer stage, as soon as specialisation of labour occurred we became dependent on others. Lmao thats why you think you can just ""start a new company mang"", because to you there is nothing involved in the production of anything other than just saying ""I will do this"", no starting capital, no securing of resources, no distribution networks, no nothing, just ""d00d start your own business""",,Anonymous,,,,,1525586996 170612700,170623204,2018-05-06 06:10:16,">>170621388 This is part of the problem of Economic Feudalism, and it is an ongoing debate in the Libertarian community. Preventing this outcome is a critical need, else the market cannot remain free.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525587016 170612700,170623282,2018-05-06 06:11:47,">>170623061 I think there's nothing complicated about getting one's stolen car back - isn't the complication bringing in uninvolved parties? See, the issue here is that there REALLY needs to not be any idea of ""special"" people. The CRUX of EVERYTHING BAD IN THE WORLD is people thinking they're justified in doing things that aren't justifiable. I agree that circumstances could be easier if, say, Joe recorded Bob stealing his car, showed the video to his neighbors, and went as a group to take it back. But it's not LESS just for Joe to do it himself - he does not owe a burden to ANYONE if it is a FACT that Bob stole his car.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525587107 170612700,170623317,2018-05-06 06:12:24,">>170623184 >>170622923 you reduce production to an abstracted ""sweat off a mans brow"", rather than anything actually real or concrete. As a result all problems can be solved by adding more of this mythical ""sweat off a mans brow"" without any analysis of what is actually required to produce something, let alone at a profit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525587144 170612700,170623371,2018-05-06 06:13:18,">>170622657 I only argue such action BECAUSE they do. If they were content to coexist peacefully we wouldn't have a problem. But they are not, and must be physically removed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525587198 170612700,170623685,2018-05-06 06:18:43,">>170623282 I take your meaning on the idea of ""special"" people with some form of authority denied to ""regular"" people. I suppose I don't see it as different that I would contract someone to safeguard my property and call them to do so as needed. In a sense, my security team would be acting on my behalf, so it's the same as me going to get it myself. Ideally, Joe's team calls Bob's team and they sort it out. We might even have the same team and they could handle it internally. If Bob doesn't have a team, he's definitely giving the car back pronto and my team would only act upon proof of ownership.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525587523 170612700,170623780,2018-05-06 06:20:12,">>170612932 >the Libertarian Party is bad Fuck off, you're a wolf in sheep's clothing. Libertarianism requires a belief in all forms of liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525587612 170612700,170623880,2018-05-06 06:21:47,"There are litterally thousands of other websites where you cucks can discuss Milton (((Friedman))) and Ayn (((Rand))). Please fuck off from this board, you pathetic race traitors.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1525587707 170612700,170623883,2018-05-06 06:21:48,">>170623685 If you have neither forced extortion nor a monopoly on arbitration/property recovery/uses of other violent force, then I don't know in what world you're advocating minarchism. That's an anarchist state of affairs.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525587708 170612700,170623943,2018-05-06 06:22:55,">>170623880 >ree Jews Fuck off stormfag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525587775 170612700,170624053,2018-05-06 06:24:55,">>170620176 >loving somebody means you cant use force on them This is why children today are fucked.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525587895 170612700,170624197,2018-05-06 06:27:38,">>170623883 As a Minarchist, I do think we can (and should) have a very basic police force. The problem with the current situation is the plethora of nonsensical vice laws, regulatory compliance enforcement and fine collection that has obliterated the concept of Officer Friendly the Peacekeeper. I favor eliminating the police as we know it and returning minimal law enforcement to elected county sherrifs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525588058 170612700,170624253,2018-05-06 06:28:39,">>170624053 >you can love someone as you shoot a random scared-for-their-life conscript (read: slave) in the head This is what ""just war"" retards actually try to believe. You are not a Christian if you do not even try to obey your God.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525588119 170612700,170624353,2018-05-06 06:30:18,">>170624197 >As a Minarchist, I do think we can (and should) have a very basic police force You've said you don't want people with special privileges in the use of force. Unless those ""police"" of yours are magically allowed to do things that they will attack other people for doing, they don't constitute a state, and you're an anarchist. Although >elected is pretty disgusting.",,Praceteom,,,,,1525588218 170612700,170624392,2018-05-06 06:31:05,">>170612700 Filthy near sighted greedy degenerate anti-social capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525588265 170612700,170624410,2018-05-06 06:31:21,">>170623780 I support all libertarians because I know we need a strong faction. But I believe there are small nuances that certain views have gotten better. But this doesn't just apply to Hoppeanism.",,Anonymous,DaDsnq9UQAAx30f (1).jpg_large.jpg,bZnR9nlc1hbRUvs4LYwdag==,,,1525588281 170612700,170624418,2018-05-06 06:31:32,">>170623943 What's a stormfag?",,Anonymous,1524908421884.png,FmthgS2E5E6dNlg4cYQU/w==,CA,,1525588292 170612700,170624466,2018-05-06 06:32:32,">>170624418 Neonazi losers. Either you are right libertarian or conservative. No place for any socialism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525588352 170612700,170624653,2018-05-06 06:35:56,">>170624253 Tough love elludes you doesnt it. Even in revelation new testament god punishes the sinners. >its self i flicted they shouldnt sin Not all force is violence",,Anonymous,,,,,1525588556 170612700,170624701,2018-05-06 06:36:39,">>170623317 They're neets, what did you expect?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525588599 170612700,170624745,2018-05-06 06:37:30,">>170624466 Not supporting any kind of socialism at this point is pure insanity.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525588650 170612700,170624757,2018-05-06 06:37:43,">>170624466 Digits checked. This boards primary inhabitants are normies. Long gone are the days when this was a lolbertarian / stormfag board",,Anonymous,,,,,1525588663 170612700,170624802,2018-05-06 06:38:36,">>170624745 Somebody needs a helicopter ride",,Anonymous,,,,,1525588716 170612700,170624807,2018-05-06 06:38:42,">>170624653 >tough love >murder >though shalt not kill GOD administers justice. NOT men. >""Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 ) >“Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”",,Praceteom,1521316383786.gif,XvpjkUnduli2eXTv1lT+3A==,,,1525588722 170612700,170624968,2018-05-06 06:41:53,">>170624802 Do you have any other arguments? I love how you guys worship a corporate globalist, shows your true colors.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525588913 170612700,170624975,2018-05-06 06:42:05,">>170624466 He didn't say anything about national socialism. What are you sperging about?",,Anonymous,1524907893592.png,8G8fgzuUAwx75bR5S5NoVw==,CA,,1525588925 170612700,170625016,2018-05-06 06:43:09,">>170624757 You still haven't explained what a stormfag is. All he was call out lolbertism as a predominately Jewish-American movement.",,Anonymous,1524909025806.png,/FicIKHL4wbFhWZt1fLSdQ==,CA,,1525588989 170612700,170625100,2018-05-06 06:45:05,">>170624968 >worship corpirate globalists I dont worship corporates i want a removal of limited liability. If a company fucks up the owners should hang.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525589105 170612700,170625214,2018-05-06 06:47:18,">>170625100 You want to remove the one good thing about corporatism. What a joke.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525589238 170612700,170625224,2018-05-06 06:47:28,">>170625016 Stprmfags were one of the original tribes tgat migrated from /b/ to /pol/ upon its creation. Storm fags so named due to their storm faggotry and talking points tgat closley resembeld the neinazis website stormfront. How new are you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525589248 170612700,170625227,2018-05-06 06:47:31,">>170625100 >Kill 1000 workers thorugh your mismanadgement >Say that they were communists >Retarded neets in US clap",,Anonymous,,,,,1525589251 170612700,170625270,2018-05-06 06:48:31,">>170625224 You still haven't explained what a stormfag is. Some guy mentioned that these people are kikes and you sperged on about some irrelevant 1990's website.",,Anonymous,1497194829881.jpg,ScehPLWcly0lA7VLdzReog==,CA,,1525589311 170612700,170625306,2018-05-06 06:49:13,">>170625224 Anyone that talks about kikes is a stormfag? Is that what you're trying to say?",,Anonymous,1503338517302.jpg,0NtRVhyrPM/Bl4EDNru0mQ==,CA,,1525589353 170612700,170625399,2018-05-06 06:50:58,">>170625214 >the one good thing about corporatism If the conpany roughts over its clients and breaches the agreement struck between the company and the customer. And the company goes bankrupt the owner should be held responsible. Tge owner broke tge agreement the company is just a feont that carries his risk. Its why buisiness owbers tiday have no problems with fucking over their customers. Combine that with monopolies or duopolies of state controlled markets and you have a very evil society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525589458 170612700,170625503,2018-05-06 06:53:18,">>170625306 You wanted to know what a storm fag was i hace not passed comment on the jews",,Anonymous,,,,,1525589598 170612700,170625599,2018-05-06 06:55:02,">>170625399 Limited liability allows people to create businesses without losing their family home. More businesses fail than succeed. Losses are privatized almost entirely via the private commercial lending system. You claim to be a lolbert and yet you want to destroy the one great thing that came out of mercantilism/corporatism. Is a stormfag anyone that talks about kikes and their domination of positions of influence in the west? You weren't clear.",,Anonymous,1502206368255.jpg,DRTZ++5W8mPylutt1IYBsQ==,CA,,1525589702 170612700,170625644,2018-05-06 06:55:59,">>170625399 >>170625599 Business owners have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders. This is why government exists. It's the mechanism for the masses to counterbalance capital.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525589759 170612700,170625889,2018-05-06 07:00:46,">>170625599 >more privates fail than succeed This is the market at work. Its not my fault if you lose your home. All stormfags have a problem with jew domination. Irl not all of these people are stormfags bit on this uzbeki deep see diving forum they are",,Anonymous,,,,,1525590046 170612700,170626014,2018-05-06 07:02:58,">>170625644 Only in publically floated companies. If the risk is too much to handle dont invest. Once again not my problem",,Anonymous,,,,,1525590178 170612700,170626040,2018-05-06 07:03:34,">>170625889 >put capital above people themselves nth level capitalist right here, thats why its cancerous.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525590214 170612700,170626153,2018-05-06 07:05:45,">>170626040 On the contrary i wont removal of the mechanism that prevents the private assests of the corporate owners from being seized when they fuck over the people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525590345 170612700,170626318,2018-05-06 07:08:44,">>170626153 see above >>170625599 It protects more people than it fucks over by a vast margin.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525590524 170612700,170626358,2018-05-06 07:09:18,We will make it guys.,,Anonymous,18839079_1361623917239257_2061867066248643651_n.png,caSQyYeKO0EHrfKsDU8CAQ==,,,1525590558 170612700,170626580,2018-05-06 07:13:43,"why do commies always compare ancaps to neo-feudalist? there is literally nothing we have in common.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525590823 170612700,170626661,2018-05-06 07:15:21,">>170613616 to quote lolberg ""economist"" von Mises: >facts dont matter, its all about a priori logic lmao",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525590921 170612700,170626957,2018-05-06 07:19:52,"how come lolbergs never understand economics 101? http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/whyaust.htm",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525591192 170612700,170627618,2018-05-06 07:32:40,">>170626318 It protects idiots and the corrupt",,Anonymous,,,,,1525591960 170612700,170627674,2018-05-06 07:33:51,">>170626580 There is notging wrong with neofeudalism. Its far closer to ancap than whatever shit we have today.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525592031 170612700,170627808,2018-05-06 07:35:54,">>170626957 > I was first introduced to Austrian economics during my senior year in high school, when I first read and enjoyed the writings of Mises and Rothbard. The summer before I began my undergraduate work at UC Berkeley >UC BERKELEY Opinion fucking discarded.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525592154 170612700,170627913,2018-05-06 07:37:56,">>170625889 Jewish influence is overwhelmingly negative. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion",,Anonymous,1519409042788.jpg,9Emtk8znUctrxtFQglBMyQ==,CA,,1525592276 170612700,170628894,2018-05-06 07:57:06,">>170627913 You confuse me with somebody who cares what the hews are doing. Here is the deal faggot i dont care. The only ""state"" i care about is the ""state"" of me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525593426 170612700,170629023,2018-05-06 07:59:32,Its been a pleasure cunts,,Anonymous,images.png,1aq4t9ggMGumO4ezjqXvrg==,AU,,1525593572 170612700,170629356,2018-05-06 08:06:38,">>170623317 >It is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for one person to grow or produce enough food to feed himself >LITTERALLY >IMPOSSIBLE Are you certain of that, friend? Are you absolutely sure such a thing is outside the realm of reality?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525593998 170612700,170629553,2018-05-06 08:10:12,">>170624353 Think of it as a transitional step to full Voluntaryism. We're not going to get there in our lifetime, but we can set our children on the right path.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525594212 170612700,170630095,2018-05-06 08:20:24,">>170614081 You got more or less most things right and the other anon is claiming private property rules is statism (fucking absurd), but not many are going to want to make business with you unless you provide third party arbitration in case of conflict. Most people in an ancap scenario would expect you to provide security, but your security should not the one taking care of evictions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525594824 170612700,170630292,2018-05-06 08:24:06,">>170613485 Free migration is not compatible with private property in a post-colonized continent, where pretty much everything is privately owned already. Anywhere you'd migrate has an owner who might disagree with you being there, thus it's not free migration.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525595046 170612700,170630336,2018-05-06 08:24:41,">>170630095 Damn a live one. You are right at least.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525595081 170612700,170630502,2018-05-06 08:27:26,">>170626580 Feudalism today, with airports, would have been way superior to democracy. Main problems of feudalism were caused by lack of options created by difficulty in mobility.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525595246 170612700,170630837,2018-05-06 08:33:11,">>170630095 >>170630292 >>170630502 Agreed with everytging you said. This is why im not ancap.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525595591 170612700,170631832,2018-05-06 08:49:21,The state is gay nigga,,Anonymous,1524475346494.jpg,tNe8/8YtKc7v8Q0LRllHDQ==,SE,,1525596561 170612700,170632200,2018-05-06 08:55:27,">>170618718 Dave Rubin kek gommie detected",,Anonymous,,,KR,,1525596927 170612700,170632299,2018-05-06 08:57:00,This thread proves yet again that ancaps are retarded teenage autists,,Anonymous,,,,,1525597020 170612700,170632343,2018-05-06 08:57:56,">>170615415 who mans is this",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1525597076 170612700,170634599,2018-05-06 09:33:39,ITT nazi faggots demonstrate once again they really are just communiggers who want gibmedats for THEIR race.,,Anonymous,ronald.jpg,/6RSrRldgin76BWj/vaOVg==,US,,1525599219 170612700,170635098,2018-05-06 09:40:50,">>170619268 spanish scholastics? where can I read more about them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525599650 170612700,170636283,2018-05-06 09:58:05,">>170631832 This.",,Anonymous,ancap4life.jpg,Qr73COH2sGE6r4c9xCM5Pw==,,,1525600685 170612700,170636554,2018-05-06 10:01:12,">>170619268 >>170635098 Who are the Spanish scholars? The Salamanca School, perhaps?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525600872 170612700,170637003,2018-05-06 10:07:00,">>170635098 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_Salamanca#Economics",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1525601220 170612700,170637390,2018-05-06 10:12:15,,,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,Zkw2i8pSamCbY5pvp3R2YA==,DE,,1525601535 170612700,170638203,2018-05-06 10:23:25,,,Anonymous,64488EFD-AB0F-4ED4-9F19-62D3AD50A8DE.png,xXZ2Rjma/tgFs8yxxk119Q==,,,1525602205 170612700,170640183,2018-05-06 10:49:30,">>170613148 Mises was probably thinking more about how he fled Nazi Germany and less about the prospect that somebody could be insane enough to allow hostile invaders to flood in. The idea that hostile invaders are ""immigrants"" is a fairly recent innovation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525603770 170612700,170640374,2018-05-06 10:51:56,>>170618718,,Anonymous,1523247430213.png,VgJ3FIHAetF8lXZ3G9hj3Q==,US,,1525603916 170612700,170640800,2018-05-06 10:57:35,">>170636283 this pic is great. thanks for posting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525604255 170612700,170640886,2018-05-06 10:58:42,">>170636283 But I wonder, where does Franco's Spain fit in? Is it an anomaly?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525604322 170612700,170641049,2018-05-06 11:00:49,">>170640886 Franco’s spain is in red just like every other succesfull country in history.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525604449 170612700,170641729,2018-05-06 11:09:41,">>170616025 For roughly the same price, ectogenesis, AI and robotics can do the same job oh so many more times better",,Anonymous,1524660885539.jpg,oIqUOAmhSUuGh2DPzjascQ==,,,1525604981 170612700,170642423,2018-05-06 11:17:57,">>170621476 Large corporations are for large governments to edict and enforce unjust laws so they can't be competed against. A prime example of big corporations voting/shilling/enabling for big govenrment would be the Federal Reserve and the banks that make it up",,Anonymous,,,,,1525605477 170612700,170642533,2018-05-06 11:19:10,">>170621980 >not starting a business to compete with the ones you are boycotting You're doing it wrong, mehmet",,Anonymous,,,,,1525605550 170612700,170642805,2018-05-06 11:22:07,"There is nothing more a e s t h e t i c than free markets, private property, and physical removal.",,Anonymous,20180505_142544.jpg,9S92sBw1ZQuxn0j8uQTqRQ==,US,,1525605727 170612700,170642958,2018-05-06 11:23:49,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_07-27-02.48.45.png,60uxun9tF8PL60SQI4VWzQ==,US,,1525605829 170612700,170643105,2018-05-06 11:25:33,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1525605933 170612700,170644548,2018-05-06 11:39:23,">>170612700 Eh, Classical liberalism is better than anarchism.",,Anonymous,BTFO.jpg,d7E6OBHEqLVkqy77t4cvcw==,US,,1525606763 170612700,170645747,2018-05-06 11:50:48,">>170623048 I don't think you realize how bad this is for a business's reputation, especially in the information age. It's also important to keep in mind that there's far less of a tendency for monopolization with less government, as many of the supporters of big corporations (anything related to intellectual property) do not exist in a libertarian world. Because of that, there would be far more competition since there are no longer expensive and cumbersome obstacles in the way of starting a business in a given field. In short, this likely wouldn't be a problem. If it were a problem, private police, insurance agencies, and other self defense means could easily be utilized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525607448 170612700,170646151,2018-05-06 11:54:57,">>170644548 Does classical liberalism have good aesthetic?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525607697 170612700,170646414,2018-05-06 11:57:53,">>170644548 You can still join our thread. This isn't an anarchist exclusive general",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525607873 170612700,170646541,2018-05-06 11:59:26,">>170612700 >I was only 19 years old. >I loved Žižek so much, I had all the books and films. >I pray to Žižek every night, thanking him for the knowledge he's given me. “Žižek is love” I say, “Žižek is life."" >My dad is Jordan Peterson. He hears me and calls me a cultural marxist. I knew he was just jealous of my devotion to Žižek. >I called him a pseudo-intellectual. >He hits me and sends me to sleep. >I'm crying now and my face hurts. >I lay in bed, really cold. I feel something warm... >It's Žižek! I was so happy. >He whispers in my ear an obscene joke. >As I laugh he grabs me with his slavic hands, and puts me on his lap. I'm ready. >I am all ears for Žižek. >He penetrates my mind and expands my view on the current predicament. >It hurts so much, but I do it for Žižek. I can feel my neoliberal illusions shattering and my eyes starting to water as i am picturing future authoritarian regimes in the west. >I want to revitalize the left. >He sniffs a mighty sniff as he fills my young mind with his wisdom. >My dad walks in. >Žižek looks him straight in the eye and says, >""We are approaching a catastrophe."" >Žižek crushes him in a debate and leaves through my window. >Žižek is love. Žižek is life.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525607966 170612700,170647130,2018-05-06 12:05:52,">>170644548 Yeah, ideas like the bill of rights, Life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness, jefferson democracy, classical republicanism, and constitutional liberalism are the main central theme of classical liberal beliefs. Conservative liberalism are also a modern version of classical liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525608352 170612700,170648435,2018-05-06 12:20:41,">>170642805 Physical removal, so to speak ビ気萎フュ",,Anonymous,MOSHED-2018-4-21-21-24-14.jpg,Otw0kPLFr4IXH+pIKtTYsw==,DE,,1525609241 170612700,170648942,2018-05-06 12:25:55,>>170612700,,Anonymous,statism.jpg,GqSWv4UuP418LlwJmSM5hw==,,,1525609555 170612700,170649315,2018-05-06 12:29:31,Who will build the roads? Idiots,,Anonymous,,,BE,,1525609771 170612700,170649922,2018-05-06 12:35:38,">>170649315 You can't be serious.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525610138 170612700,170651168,2018-05-06 12:49:19,"Do you believe that something like AnCap or Libertarianism in general can co-exist with traditional values? Or is this unrestrained ""live-and-let-live"" type of society inevitably going to lead to the decay of morality and rampant degeneracy?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525610959 170612700,170651366,2018-05-06 12:51:36,">>170649922 I am. Roads and general infrastructure don't make sense in a free market setting. >competing roads >competing pipelines >competing railway tracks Then there's the issue of getting to decide which companies are allowed to build where and how. The whole thing is a clusterfuck. >be poorfag >get murdered >family doesn't have money to pay for investigation hurdur guess we're never going to solve it! Kill yourself, retards. I've never heard a decent argument out of any of you besides ""the free market will handle it"" which is the reasoning children and autists employ because it's so simple and nonsensical.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1525611096 170612700,170652251,2018-05-06 13:01:34,">>170651366 >the whole thing is a cluster fuck Historically, not true at all. In the past, when private railroads and toll roads reigned supreme, the different road owners cooperated to make their railroads and toll roads compatible together in transport, simply because it's better for business for everyone if roads are easy to use in sequence together despite the ownership differing. >hurdur guess we're never going to solve it! You don't have a right to someone else's goods and wealth, no matter what the circumstance. However, this can be solved by having a poorer community collectively pay for the services of an insurance/security agency that will solve crimes as they occur while getting a subscription fee. In fact, private police and security will be even better for communities because they'll actually be directly working to satisfy the community on a profit based incentive. Instead of a police force treating a poor community like pests, it would be a fairer police force for them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525611694 170612700,170652401,2018-05-06 13:03:25,"Shoplifting is part of the game and inherent to my freedom. >tfw saving 10% of my monthly budget thanks to the self scan cashiers",,Anonymous,,,,,1525611805 170612700,170652676,2018-05-06 13:06:11,">>170651168 Not at all. Most of the times, governments are the one harming traditionality within a state, for example by allowing mass immigration and performing state enforced leftist propaganda, like it is the case in western europe right now. Abolishment of states would just mean that every person just can choose to live and defend themselves how they want, if they do it voluntarily.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525611971 170612700,170652891,2018-05-06 13:08:22,">>170626580 >why do commies always compare ancaps to neo-feudalist? People (especially commies) are historically illiterate, they don't have actual legal feudalism in mind when saying this. They just see a world in which there are people (not themselves related to the state) that have enough personal independence to tell other to fuck off with impunity. Leftists resent the mere possibility that there are somewhere people that don't have to obey the state/community in a slavish manner. The big state is a way to alleviate their envy, because in the end even billionaires are nothing in front of the state, there is a de facto egalitarianism at least in this respect. Here leftists actually see in a very good light the political process launched by Richelieu because he crippled the aristocracy to install state power instead. They may not like the king, but king or no king is a technicality here, the relevant part is that no one could go against the state anymore.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525612102 170612700,170653173,2018-05-06 13:11:20,">>170612700 >checked >296 Replies I remember a while back the /LRG/ generals were getting just a couple dozen replies, glad to see you've come so far anons",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525612280 170612700,170653383,2018-05-06 13:13:32,">>170653173 I started this thread last night and I'm shocked it's still up. Makes me happy and hopeful for a libertarian future on /pol/. /pol/ is fun but I need my libertarian right general to scratch a certain itch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525612412 170612700,170653401,2018-05-06 13:13:46,">>170651366 It does. Look at aviation. In an alternate scenario all airplanes would be owned by the state. What would happen? Airplane transportation would lag 50 years behind where it is now and it would be expensive as hell. The free market has made it cheap and efficient. And this can be implemented EVERYWHERE - even infrastructure. >be poorfag Ehm - without taxes general wealth would go up drastically. >family doesn't have money to pay for investigation First of all, private police would be really cheap, second, even if they were dirt poor, they could pay it off with installment. Also, capitalism doesn't automatically eliminate charity, so I'm sure there would be a solution to such an oddly specific problem.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525612426 170612700,170653952,2018-05-06 13:19:33,">>170653383 It fills a certain niche; there are a lot of libertarian-types on /pol/, some like myself don't even consider ourselves libertarian but agree with many of the principles. However the mainstream libertarians tend to be lefty faggot types which we want no part of. I think it's too niche to catch on but having the conversation is the important part.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525612773 170612700,170653961,2018-05-06 13:19:40,">>170653173 Yep. Things are starting to get going here in /lrg/. Glad to see that.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525612780 170612700,170654144,2018-05-06 13:21:49,">>170615415 >t. lolbert",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525612909 170612700,170654777,2018-05-06 13:28:16,">>170654144 >t. cuck statist",,Anonymous,3kHgxM4.png,FGWmLVdT/Z+X+A1t7oprVQ==,,,1525613296 170612700,170655520,2018-05-06 13:36:27,I love my lrg lads :),,Anonymous,rothbard-hoppe-rockwell.jpg,lHNKaB9i3JrmzW/D15Cq6g==,US,,1525613787 170612700,170655799,2018-05-06 13:39:32,">>170616611 It's not like people in an ancap society are gonna automatically say, ""You know, what? Fuck niggers.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1525613972 170612700,170656413,2018-05-06 13:46:29,">>170651168 I believe libertarianism would actually incentivize traditional values. Think about it like this, most people don't want neighboors who have meth labs in their garage, or blast loud music every night, or summon demons. This means that a landlord in a libertarian covenant would have an incentive to either charge such people more to live in the community in order to offset the decreased property value, or exclude such people entirely.",,Anonymous,1491155219073.gif,e5LCtwL2p1QfWu3arGVSvw==,US,,1525614389 170755011,170755011,2018-05-07 11:13:18,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU [Embed] [Embed] >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o [Embed] [Embed] >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM [Embed] [Embed]",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - RED FILTH GET OUT EDITION,Anonymous,1525589240119.png,EuWbPq02XTvjWXslLGhJtg==,,,1525691598 170755011,170755472,2018-05-07 11:19:04,">>170755011 Classical liberalism is better.",,Anonymous,Le classical liberal.jpg,J9ihb+S4s1FAHqc/zJy2nA==,US,,1525691944 170755011,170755735,2018-05-07 11:22:36,">>170755472 Ya filthy commie",,Anonymous,1519577336718.jpg,Lsd9mwQ6B0gq8zZ15+wDSA==,,,1525692156 170755011,170756804,2018-05-07 11:35:41,">>170755472 classical liberalism brought us the leviathan, multicultural mess of western democracies we have now. Moving to a private property natural order is the only solution.",,Anonymous,ancapsurge.jpg,dLzlIHZViDX53DfkBY8oqA==,AU,,1525692941 170755011,170757075,2018-05-07 11:38:57,">>170755011 Bump.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525693137 170755011,170758404,2018-05-07 11:54:01,">>170755011 >supports gold standard, >supports property rights >supports gun ownership >supports Hoppean monarchy >supports a flourishing free market in children >opposes Assadist/Putinist socialist scum Why aren't we supporting the Islamic State, again? They're literally Gary North's libertarian theonomy put into practice.",,Anonymous,isis.jpg,jq28tcg1GPMO72byq8NC4Q==,,,1525694041 170775112,170775112,2018-05-07 15:04:30,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist -https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdFmd_0YvXWPAClGV5h2zCZM2nox7zniz >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - /LEFTYPOL/ ETERNALLY BTFO,Anonymous,1525589240119.png,EuWbPq02XTvjWXslLGhJtg==,,,1525705470 170775112,170775216,2018-05-07 15:05:34,,,Anonymous,1521069359498.jpg,LPJ3nPZX1mOaX2sCl7XAMQ==,,,1525705534 170775112,170775950,2018-05-07 15:13:04,">>170775112 socialism is the peak of intellect",,Anonymous,,,,,1525705984 170775112,170777229,2018-05-07 15:25:32,">>170775112 ITS TIME",,SARGENT FOUR CHAN,1488849976885.jpg,+gdqgf5KMmS/sxUXcx0KVA==,,,1525706732 170846771,170846771,2018-05-08 06:16:20,"Last thread was hijacked by abortionfags and nazbols, so here's the abortion thread we so obviously need. Anyway here's the paste: >Discussion Topic: Abortion: Is it a violation of non-aggression? Does it matter? Can polycentric law or covenant communities solve this rather than arguing about muh NAP? This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/lrg/ - libertarian right general,Anonymous,lrgabortion.png,sygDBW7Co7eqD0pbqQqoCQ==,,,1525760180 170846771,170847143,2018-05-08 06:24:14,">laws Yuck, who needs them? If someone wants to kill a baby, I'm not very inclined to care. If someone tried to kill mine? He or she better watch out for me. The end. Stop me if you can. Anarchy is the best.",,Anonymous,1523575922581m.jpg,fglAgTNIaayzRMBty6wnvw==,US,,1525760654 170846771,170848478,2018-05-08 06:48:37,Bump,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525762117 170846771,170848943,2018-05-08 06:57:21,">>170846771 SEIZE THE MEMES OF PRODUCTION",,Anonymous,,,,,1525762641 170846771,170849183,2018-05-08 07:01:34,">>170846771 May God's wrath be upon ye! His wrath shall be terrible!",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1525762894 170846771,170849788,2018-05-08 07:10:24,">>170846771 until it is a person with self awareness and capacity for future plans and actual suffereing the NAP does not apply. so abortion is not in violation of it. you cannot have rights or moral status without cognitive capacity.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1525763424 170846771,170851864,2018-05-08 07:46:37,">>170849788 Would a person in a long-term coma therefore have no rights?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525765597 170846771,170852246,2018-05-08 07:53:05,"Abortion's legality should be based off of the definition of life and the definition for death. I believe our current definition for death is perfect - the cessation of brain activity. Given that life and death are opposites, that would make the perfect definition for life the presence of brain activity. So, if the fetus has brain activity, it is alive, making abortion in that case murder. If it doesn't, it is dead, making abortion in that case not murder.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525765985 170846771,170852546,2018-05-08 07:57:41,">>170846771 beyond the obvious, supporting abortion has one goal, for me, to eliminate as many black criminals before they're born as possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525766261 170846771,170852575,2018-05-08 07:58:17,">>170849788 How convenient. What if the state decides to get rid of dangerous elements by declaring them insane and reducing them to human parasites as per your logic?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1525766297 170846771,170852852,2018-05-08 08:02:33,">>170849788 >>170852246 >being a slave to ""muh morals and principles"" You should only care about what works. Abortion is good because mostly lefties and blacks kill their babies. Removing these people from the gene pool is good for a white ethnostate - the end goal for /pol/. You can be all about morals all you want but at the end of the day the rightwing will lose like it always has. Being a slave to your principals just makes you a fucking chump.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525766553 170846771,170853551,2018-05-08 08:12:42,slow today,,Anonymous,maxresdefault.png,80R45y6dss3Aj9GF9QcNTA==,GB,,1525767162 170846771,170854041,2018-05-08 08:20:39,">>170846771 >tfw infertile >tfw the state makes me subsidize the murder of babies I desperately want to adopt",,Anonymous,634492EE-C57C-40DB-8859-75F9001B5DE1.jpg,Cj2cbKjgPoDJxcd6ygmFlg==,US,,1525767639 170846771,170855516,2018-05-08 08:45:21,">>170853551 wonder who this could be",,Anonymous,_T3uibyWmj5gjJpYVWntzsaG1SlTNDci6dscdDcfa6g.jpg,b12i6uXPrxyAPjg8TT2nCg==,,,1525769121 170846771,170855739,2018-05-08 08:49:15,">>170851864 More importantly, if you knock someone out and then rape them, then under this theory of rights you would only be liable for the assault. The rape happened to someone without cognitive capacity.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525769355 170846771,170856382,2018-05-08 09:00:19,">>170852852 Abolishing welfare would also take care of the shitskins, while having many other benefits. (Potential) murder is not necessary and advocating for murder makes you no better than the shitskins.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525770019 170846771,170857206,2018-05-08 09:12:11,">>170848943 WHO UP MY GANG GANG?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525770731 170846771,170857349,2018-05-08 09:14:13,">>170856382 pro tip the vast majority of people that go to meriga actually go and get jobs. Most menial labour is done by these immigrants, and women of colour practically prop up the middle class by doing maid and nanny work that middle class women dont want to or have no time to do. Merica is basically run off of the backs of immigrants, because its cheaper.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525770853 170846771,170857782,2018-05-08 09:20:13,,,Anonymous,rightandwrong.png,gMaz3sKGq3KJhJlFd2FL0A==,,,1525771213 170846771,170857815,2018-05-08 09:20:42,,,Anonymous,schism of the mind.jpg,CJbyv0IfZI8ss182evAnmw==,,,1525771242 170846771,170857837,2018-05-08 09:20:58,,,Anonymous,1525116556763.jpg,ivTrrR68f9b75eMu4Vjv7Q==,,,1525771258 170846771,170857858,2018-05-08 09:21:14,,,Anonymous,1525116746816.jpg,4w/pCsPjBLmtB9C6XPlhJQ==,,,1525771274 170846771,170857881,2018-05-08 09:21:30,,,Anonymous,1525114356067.jpg,l8OVRk8CKzAwSzaZYzaVkw==,,,1525771290 170846771,170857919,2018-05-08 09:22:06,,,Anonymous,Screenshot2014-10-20at11.28.39PM.png,gwR47dz+yEmI21Fh6X0a8w==,,,1525771326 170846771,170857939,2018-05-08 09:22:29,,,Anonymous,ForceVsViolence.jpg,F9G50evl9nsTqeAt4+fQkw==,,,1525771349 170846771,170857954,2018-05-08 09:22:46,,,Anonymous,1525208232344.png,VjD+GolRYFwlFNwRjQT4uw==,,,1525771366 170846771,170857977,2018-05-08 09:23:03,,,Anonymous,1525208254755.png,yFOl3O353j08qfcCBIiELA==,,,1525771383 170846771,170858106,2018-05-08 09:24:49,,,Anonymous,1525115217858.jpg,GMV0RO5EGfhXNn2gsji3Hw==,,,1525771489 170846771,170858124,2018-05-08 09:25:05,">>170857782 >>170857815 >>170857837 >>170857858 >>170857881 >>170857919 >>170857939 No amount of gay infographics actually makes anything said on said gay infographics true.",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,ccPE63CeSScCeTRnq7bWTQ==,,,1525771505 170846771,170858178,2018-05-08 09:25:57,">>170858124 No amount of autistic screeching is going to make anything screeched on said occasion is going to negate the reality that gravity exists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525771557 170846771,170858203,2018-05-08 09:26:18,">>170846771 Abortion should be murder. Exceptions for only three cases: The mother may die Rape baby Child will have zero QoL (downie, Encephalopathy, etc) Other than that, your rights stop where other's rights begin.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525771578 170846771,170858213,2018-05-08 09:26:24,,,Anonymous,1525208754519.png,0qX4snu2hy7LiuxOqZN5zg==,,,1525771584 170846771,170858223,2018-05-08 09:26:33,"Posting my suggested reading again. >>170857815 >Muh religion is slavery Cancer desu.",,Anonymous,helicopter reading list.jpg,d4E6Yn1sntnNpVJxd4wIlQ==,,,1525771593 170846771,170858287,2018-05-08 09:27:29,">>170858223 The state is a religion lad, I didn't say there is not amazing and beautiful allegorical or astrotheological messages in religion, did I?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525771649 170846771,170858296,2018-05-08 09:27:42,">>170846771 Abortion=murder",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525771662 170846771,170858301,2018-05-08 09:27:46,,,Anonymous,1525209033408.png,y6bu5F626ErHArmdyjO4MQ==,,,1525771666 170846771,170858304,2018-05-08 09:27:48,">>170857782 very nice",,Anonymous,,,,,1525771668 170846771,170858389,2018-05-08 09:28:47,>>170858304,,Anonymous,NaturalVsMansLaw.jpg,OGjq/QG4ZFYsMj+1diO1Rw==,,,1525771727 170846771,170858403,2018-05-08 09:29:01,">>170858203 >Child will have zero QoL (downie, Encephalopathy, etc) Downies don't necessarily lack quality of life. They suffer from various ailments and tend to be extremely unintelligent, but they are not on the same level as someone suffering from encephalopathy. They still feel, fall in love, make friends, create (probably sub par) art, do sports, etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525771741 170846771,170858483,2018-05-08 09:30:20,">>170858304 >>170858389 kek wtf that's not my image. https://imgur.com/a/0INjOcH",,Anonymous,,,,,1525771820 170846771,170858546,2018-05-08 09:31:15,,,Anonymous,menger-money.jpg,iUVPxFOzJTVgOkgLKCx2/Q==,,,1525771875 170846771,170858557,2018-05-08 09:31:21,">>170858178 except thats a false equivalence. We know gravity exists because or else the universe would basically not exist first up, but second up we know if we drop shit it hits the floor. Thats a physical truth, none of your infographics actually have any proofs or derivations, they're just assertions. As such just posting an infographic doesnt make what is on it correct. You need proof, which you dont have. Natural Law has been philosophically dead for a good couple of centuries at this point.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525771881 170846771,170858559,2018-05-08 09:31:21,">>170846771 ID spot on you chog.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525771881 170846771,170858576,2018-05-08 09:31:31,,,Anonymous,U5dqrsPqTyKmDhkKQNQT83Br34wfir1_1680x8400.jpg,u7e7MjOjmlcxJyZ4oIiGnQ==,,,1525771891 170846771,170858623,2018-05-08 09:32:02,">>170858389 >>170858483 hahahhaa wtf",,Anonymous,,,,,1525771922 170846771,170858670,2018-05-08 09:32:32,"One way to consider this. Consenting sexual intercourse, the choice of both parties. These people are well aware that sexual intercourse can result in a child. I believe their choice in the life of a child happens here, after that abortion is an act of aggression. Ideally this should be a personal matter though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525771952 170846771,170858688,2018-05-08 09:32:47,What your excuse it's going to be for not voting for Jacobs?,,Anonymous,1200px-Glenn_Jacobs_(36315296821).jpg,0WRKmnRtu2ySWkaZHpkOxA==,,,1525771967 170846771,170858711,2018-05-08 09:33:15,">>170858287 >The state is a religion lad True. >I didn't say there is not amazing and beautiful allegorical or astrotheological messages in religion, did I? Not interested in a religion reduced to allegories and empty spiritualism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525771995 170846771,170858828,2018-05-08 09:35:19,">>170858403 I realize this. However that's just my point of view. No reason rational discussion wont persuade me. At this time, downies will not have a normal productive life and will never have the same or even close to the same opportunities as a non-downie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525772119 170846771,170858908,2018-05-08 09:36:28,">>170858546 likewise anthropologically this is in fact incorrect, the earliest economies were debt economies, run without any actual transactions, then the state came in and created a sort of government run proto socialism, where everything was owned by the government and the people were told what to plant and when to plant it and at what price to sell it for. Most of things were stored in central granaries and distributed via the government. The gov overlooked all transactions and controlled it all by controlling the currencies like grain or salt, and protected private property by making theft illegal. As such the state and capitalism grew up together.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525772188 170846771,170858952,2018-05-08 09:36:58,,,Anonymous,quote-need-now-means-wanting-someone-else-s-money-greed-means-wanting-to-keep-your-own-compassion-joseph-sobran-49-57-77.jpg,WjLWTCB/lqWYLZ4O0iISHw==,,,1525772218 170846771,170858958,2018-05-08 09:37:08,">>170858557 >except thats a false equivalence. It is not, and I will gladly explain why. >We know gravity exists because or else the universe would basically not exist first up, but second up we know if we drop shit it hits the floor. Thats a physical truth, Correct. >none of your infographics actually have any proofs or derivations, they're just assertions. Wrong. Nature cannot contain contradictions, every time you drop a rock it will drop to the floor, yes? Yes. From the use of logic you can derive the fact that nature is law, and there is an objective truth to be obtained through logic, like I said above, gravity works every time, without exception. Have you ever been walking and suddenly starting floating? No, no you haven't. Would you like to know why? Right, you know why, because nature is based on law and physics. You can naturally conclude with logic that behavior is bound to, because you are part of physical reality, too, are you not? You are. I own me, and you own you. This is a board for people over 18, if you cannot comprehend the concept that me murdering you is an act of wrong doing, I'm sorry your time is best spent somewhere else.",,Anonymous,Truth.png,6HjR4/Ws344BdSN5ZeLNlw==,,,1525772228 170846771,170858992,2018-05-08 09:37:37,">>170858828 Also, I'm not saying eugenics here. I'm saying that termination of a downie should not equate to murder, simply because of QoL. It's the families decision to keep the baby.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525772257 170846771,170859039,2018-05-08 09:38:15,">>170858908 >As such the state and capitalism grew up together. Incorrect. Capitalism is independent of the state. It is nature. The state is violence. They are polar opposites. One is based in right, and the other based in wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525772295 170846771,170859216,2018-05-08 09:40:43,">>170846771 >abortion >Not asking what's the race >being libertarian >having thread hijacked >Not realizing being a weak libertarian will always get you steamrolled by the left and right Go play Stellaris, megacorp.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525772443 170846771,170859305,2018-05-08 09:41:55,">>170859039 >cap indep of govt So in societies without the rule of law, capitalism flourishes? Or is it the absolute fucking opposite.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525772515 170846771,170859310,2018-05-08 09:41:56,">>170859216 t.doesn't realize the left is the same as the right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525772516 170846771,170859602,2018-05-08 09:45:50,">>170858958 >>170858958 >Wrong. Nature cannot contain contradictions, every time you drop a rock it will drop to the floor, yes? Yes. From the use of logic you can derive the fact that nature is law, and there is an objective truth to be obtained through logic, like I said above, gravity works every time, without exception. Have you ever been walking and suddenly starting floating? No, no you haven't. Would you like to know why? Right, you know why, because nature is based on law and physics. Ok up to here >You can naturally conclude with logic that behavior is bound to, because you are part of physical reality, too, are you not? Nope, because behaviour is acting on decisions, and the decisions that we make may contain contradictions, like believing that doing something will result in one thing when actually it results in the opposite. Behaviours are cognitive processes, not a natural fact of nature like a rock or a tree, they are computations that may have errors. Not to mention people have personal preferences which are entirely subjective. Like the fact that I enjoy a piece of art does not mean that it is objectively beautiful, only that I like it. Ultimately you fail to differentiate cognitive processes from the rest of nature, assuming that because it exists it must be free from contradictions. Thats a terrible proof that would be laughed at by any philosopher or logician",,Anonymous,,,,,1525772750 170846771,170859664,2018-05-08 09:46:38,">>170846771 You're wrong, plain & simple. Religion aside. Cunt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525772798 170846771,170859695,2018-05-08 09:47:04,">>170859310 Read for content. Did you not see the uniform activity reference in ""left and right?"" Reading economics books doesn't make you smart.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525772824 170846771,170859746,2018-05-08 09:47:34,">>170859039 Thats an assertion, ultimately you are unable to protect private property from others without the state intervening and preventing other people from taking it from you. Its hard to acquire a surplus to trade if people just take it without giving you anything back.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525772854 170846771,170859775,2018-05-08 09:48:00,">>170859039 this is literally how a child thinks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525772880 170846771,170859957,2018-05-08 09:50:31,">>170856382 >advocating for murder makes you no better than the shitskins >killing cockroaches makes you no better than the cockroaches Yeah well enjoy your brown welfare state fag",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525773031 170846771,170860031,2018-05-08 09:51:21,">>170858688 What's his shtick?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525773081 170846771,170860135,2018-05-08 09:52:53,">>170852852 The only fair thing to do then is have a lottery to enforce an equivalent number of white Republican Christian involuntary abortions, to maintain an equitable balance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525773173 170846771,170860147,2018-05-08 09:53:04,">>170859695 >libertarian will always get you steamrolled by the left and right Pretending to be smart and being in way over your head on 4chan does not make you smart either. This is an 18yo+ board. Act like it or move on.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525773184 170846771,170860595,2018-05-08 09:59:42,">>170858828 >I realize this. However that's just my point of view. No reason rational discussion wont persuade me. So you are being irrational? Then why should anyone care about what you say? >At this time, downies will not have a normal productive life and will never have the same or even close to the same opportunities as a non-downie. There's a downie who achieved a 455 pound deadlift, and another who went to university (no idea how he managed to do that). There are downies who got married, too. I know enough normies who never achieved any of these things. To say that downies are precluded from a dignified existence is ignorance. >>170858908 >likewise anthropologically this is in fact incorrect, the earliest economies were debt economies, run without any actual transactions, then the state came in and created a sort of government run proto socialism, where everything was owned by the government and the people were told what to plant and when to plant it and at what price to sell it for. Most of things were stored in central granaries and distributed via the government. The gov overlooked all transactions and controlled it all by controlling the currencies like grain or salt, and protected private property by making theft illegal. As such the state and capitalism grew up together. Isn't that the view of David Graeber? He conceeded that he didn't know why the earliest cities counted debts in terms of silver, which pretty much ruins his entire case. It leaves a door wide open to the Mengerian account of the origin of money, which explains why it was silver, of all items, that the state would introduce as the unit of account. (It's also an interesting question why the state would calculate in monetary terms, not in natura or in labor hours. You'd think those would be used instead, if they were truly more straightforward, as people like Graeber claim.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1525773582 170846771,170860880,2018-05-08 10:04:10,">>170860147 Haha cute. Still a fact that libertarian societies get crushed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525773850 170846771,170861037,2018-05-08 10:06:28,">>170858557 >Natural Law has been philosophically dead for a good couple of centuries at this point. Incidentally, since it's been dead, we've been plagued with more philosophical problems than anyone can count. Everyone is stumbling over the is-ought-problem, the naturalistic fallacy, and assorted hogwash. Entire treatises have been written that stand on absolutely nothing, no central premises, no first principles, nothing. If you read Rawls and Nozick carefully, you'll see that they don't even define their terms properly before they redefine them, and that their philosophical construct have no foundation and can be dismissed by just pointing that out. Since Plato and Aristotle have been abandoned as the basis of philosophy, the field has been running blind, whereas before, it was perfectly coherent.",,Anonymous,edward feser - five proofs.jpg,2AX5cO/ZqreTq7SR3LFlSA==,,,1525773988 170846771,170861085,2018-05-08 10:07:10,">>170860595 No idea who the fuck he is. All I know is that in primitive societies no transactions exist except with people outside of the tribe, as its a form of collateral basically. Also I dont believe that the first cities used silver, ultimately grain was a main payment within a region, as grain could literally feed you. When trading with other cities and regions copper would have been more likely in large quantities. Having said this, lets not forget how pretty and reflective gold and silver are, and that aesthetic factor alone may have been enough to propel it to precious metal status as it became a key part of luxury goods like mirrors and jewellery, thus becoming valuable . Its pointless to count labour hours when you have shit timekeeping and no standards for time measurement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525774030 170846771,170861214,2018-05-08 10:09:03,">>170860880 Protection cartels in an oligopolistic market structure are hostile to outside competition. In fact, considering that there is no capital to take, no central power to topple, it would be extremely difficult to take control of a libertarian society- the money simply isn't there for world governments. Just look at governements going to war- the cost of the war in Iraq was a number of time larger than their GDP.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1525774143 170846771,170861331,2018-05-08 10:10:33,">>170861037 Ultimately natural law makes no sense, it has no rational foundation, breaks some key philosophical and logical boundaries and essentially asserts western cultural features as innate laws of nature, without proof, as most famously seen in the line in the US constitution, ""We hold these truths to be self evident...."". Real philosophers and logicians do no such thing, instead they painstakingly try to strip away assumptions, and sometimes find there is nothing actually holding everything up, but thats the way it goes, pretending anything else is correct is just a lie.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525774233 170846771,170861390,2018-05-08 10:11:27,">>170861037 neither the is-ought-problem nor the naturalistic fallacy is hogwash, in fact they are fundamental features of logic and reasoning.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525774287 170846771,170861505,2018-05-08 10:12:53,">>170861331 This guy gets it. Even accepting Natural Law, you have the task of demonstrating why I ought to care, or ought to follow it. If it is not in my self interest to do so, then it means nothing.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1525774373 170846771,170861803,2018-05-08 10:16:32,">>170860595 >So you are being irrational? Then why should anyone care about what you say? Anyone with a closed mind to discourse is a fool. >downies are precluded from a dignified existence is ignorance Here is a link to educate yourself. https://library.down-syndrome.org/en-us/research-practice/06/3/quality-life-ageing-down-syndrome/ They do not have the same QoL and will never have it. Just cause you find a 4 leaf clover from time to time... Again, I'm not saying these people should be euthanized for eugenics. I'm saying that abortion should not equate to murder in these circumstances.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525774592 170846771,170862005,2018-05-08 10:19:05,">>170859695 >Reading economics books doesn't make you smart. Not reading them makes you stupid, though. >>170859746 >Thats an assertion, ultimately you are unable to protect private property from others without the state intervening and preventing other people from taking it from you. You need force to do that. The state can exercise force, but so can you or your neighborhood watch. Your argument falls flat. It also falls flat because it contradicts historical evidence. For centuries, millennias even, there simply was no state as we know it around. Towns and villages would be without any police force, some regions didn't even have a state with any executive force whatsoever, or none that could be mobilized quick enough to fulfill the function of a police. Read any Icelandic saga, try to find a policeman. You won't find anyone. Most likely, you won't even find anything resembling a state, just an assembly the Icelanders held like once a year and some courts manned by unlicensed judges with a good reputation. Iceland not only survived as long as most republics do, it was also one of the nicer places for the time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525774745 170846771,170862399,2018-05-08 10:23:52,"lasd dhread was hijack by islamig derrorisds an grashed ondo dhe dwin dowers >Disgusion dobig: Abordion: Ish id a rape of NAP? Dos id madder? gan beniscendrig law or gonvenant gommunidies solb dhis rader dan agruing abud muh nap dis is a dhread for dhe disgusion of al polidig dhing of self-own, volundary leabing de basemend,selb gobernans, indhibidual liberdy :DDD dog bles, and dhe nadural order of benis. Dhis mens brimarily anagro gabidalisds, merchants, nadional gabidalisds an som monargisds. Oder ar welgom dho debade us ebin DHREAD RESOURCES: >BasdEBIN!: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Disgord(Dhodally nod a honeybod) & Boog Glub: fnmp99D REGOMMENDED READIN: >Dhe Low (Fredrig BASEDiad) - misses.org/liverary/low >Anadomy ov dhe Sdade (Murai Rodhghild) - misses.org/liverary/anadomy-sdade >Vor a Niu Liberdy (Murai Rodhghild) - misses.org/liverary/old-liberdy-liberdarian-manifesdo(Dhodally nod as usles as de gommunisd on) >Demogracy: Dhe Dog dhat Faild (Hans German-Hobbe) - riosmauricio.gom/wp-gondend/ubloads/2013/04/Hobbe_Demogracy_Dhe_Dog_Dhat_Fail.pdf(bud nod fail as much as angap. I hope) FURDHER READIN: >Referens - Se i.imgur.gom/wCIAgna.jpg >Dorrend - magned:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f1eb1n6000000j00s7574e5d616&dn=Anargho-Gabidalism%20Boogs DHREAD DUNES: >Hobbewave blaylisd - jewtube.gom/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU [Embed] >I need a Binoched! - jewtube.gom/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drob id lige id's Hobbe - jewtube.gom/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGOY",,ebun,liberdarianism general.png,QOf9Wk7XAHbFNVGFC8oRZA==,,,1525775032 170846771,170862468,2018-05-08 10:24:41,">>170861085 >No idea who the fuck he is. Some anarchocommunist and anthropologist, well read, but still wrong. His point was similar to yours, though. >All I know is that in primitive societies no transactions exist except with people outside of the tribe, as its a form of collateral basically. If the tribe is sufficiently small, sure. Within the tribe, a form of communism could be established without ruining anything. If it's a very large tribe, like the tribes of the nation of Israel during the Mosaic times, then I find it doubtful they'd handle all their economic affairs without trade. >Its pointless to count labour hours when you have shit timekeeping and no standards for time measurement. I assume you're not a fan of the LTV anyway, so no need to talk about this at length. Just this much, the fact that workers didn't care enough about their labor hours to find a way to somewhat accurately measure labor time is significant. Not damning evidence, but significant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525775081 170846771,170862557,2018-05-08 10:25:48,">>170862005 >You need force to do that. The state can exercise force, but so can you or your neighborhood watch. Your neighbours will be the ones stealing from you, because just as you expect them to keep you safe they will expect you to share all that you have with them, and they will share all that they have with you as well. This environment makes acquiring a surplus very hard. > For centuries, millennias even, there simply was no state as we know it around. Towns and villages would be without any police force, some regions didn't even have a state with any executive force whatsoever, or none that could be mobilized quick enough to fulfill the function of a police. Constables and sherrifs have been around since as soon as population densities became high enough that mutual trust could not keep people together, you can see this by the fact that ancient societies had laws like Hammurabi's famous one and also methods for catching and trailing criminals. No point having a law code if you cant enforce it, so the existence of the codes indicates a way of enforcing it. >Read any Icelandic saga, try to find a policeman. You won't find anyone. Most likely, you won't even find anything resembling a state, just an assembly the Icelanders held like once a year and some courts manned by unlicensed judges with a good reputation. Iceland not only survived as long as most republics do, it was also one of the nicer places for the time. The Icelandic sagas are pseudohistorical, they are basically regarded as just stories at this point, which through its cultural features and institutions can tell us a bit about society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525775148 170846771,170862652,2018-05-08 10:26:56,"come on , come to the right side , most of you already have .",,Anonymous,1507425609209.jpg,GuNjh9E3Qj9dmJZNbAauDA==,LT,,1525775216 170846771,170862710,2018-05-08 10:27:40,">>170846771 Good to see /lrg/ up and running again. Keep it up!",,Anonymous,1525373606822.jpg,L+IGXDTgE6aqUIaGMCnHtA==,,,1525775260 170846771,170862836,2018-05-08 10:29:12,">>170861214 This, plus economic prosperity is a huge factor in deciding who wins a war. That would be the huge advantage an anarchocapitalist society would have over a state, all other things equal, and if Ancapistan had enough time to accumulate capital. The state may have a better potential to mobilize all its resources, admittedly, but when Ancapistan has fifty recreational Killsats per capita, that will hardly matter.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525775352 170846771,170863067,2018-05-08 10:32:17,">>170862468 >If the tribe is sufficiently small, sure. Within the tribe, a form of communism could be established without ruining anything. If it's a very large tribe, like the tribes of the nation of Israel during the Mosaic times, then I find it doubtful they'd handle all their economic affairs without trade. Thousands of years before the epoch described in the bible society had transitioned away from the primitive communism and were living in ""asiatic"" states like I described earlier, with strong central authorities, so ""tribe"" means more like ""clan"" or small nation. This would persist until the end of the bronze age. >Just this much, the fact that workers didn't care enough about their labor hours to find a way to somewhat accurately measure labor time is significant. Not damning evidence, but significant. Except that its very hard to keep time, mechanical clocks werent invented until after the middle ages and before that the best you had were sundials (useless on rainy or grey days and changing with the earths axial tilt) or water clocks, which are large an bulky and not actually that useful. Also as labour was seasonal and not hour based (that type of labour didnt arrive until the early 1800s) it would also have been pointless. So its not that ""they didnt care"", they had no need to, and it was have been hard anyway.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525775537 170846771,170863170,2018-05-08 10:33:32,">>170846771 Its obvious that abortion has its role as a medical procedure. There are legitimate reasons why someone would want to have a medical procedure that would reduce the risk of a pregnancy to 0 by ending it. This ranges from pregnancies with an obviously unacceptable rate of failure of 100% (such as tubal pregnancy) to lower risks that get hard to quantify eventually. What I really think should be considered territory for abortion is when a pregnancy has out sized risk to the life of one or both of the people involved. For example if the mother is highly likely to die in childbirth it might be better for you to just perform an abortion now and save the mother the pain and suffering of delivery. You'll notice though that none of these are good justifications for abortion as birth control. That is because Abortion as birth control runs contrary to anarcho-capitalism. The problem with it as birth control is that someone somewhere must place a timestamp on a fetus as to when its 'viable'. Who is this person or persons? If it is the doctor, then a doctor in theory could justify murder, even past birth (this child isn't viable! its better we kill him now at 1 than later when he's 5!). If its the mother then there's not reason why she couldn't do the same for any of her dependent children. If its someone other than the two deciding individuals congratulations, you've created the State. You have now invested the power of even one decision in a third party who has no business being involved. Doctors should refuse to perform abortions due to their Hippocratic oaths and the NAP against a human individual. It is impossible for you to differentiate between 'potential' human life and 'existent' human life. We're all potentially human. We spent 18 years of our lives as 'potential' adults. We spent 9 months of our lives as 'potential' adults who were attached to our mothers. You can't stop deciding if someone's a 'potential' human until they're dead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525775612 170846771,170863182,2018-05-08 10:33:39,">>170862710 ancapistan is as much unreachable utopia as communism",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525775619 170846771,170863606,2018-05-08 10:38:23,">>170862710 there hadn't been threads in a while so I just started making them lel >>170863182 >ancapistan is as much unreachable utopia as communism citation needed. that which is claimed without evidence etc etc",,Anonymous,1494788777302.png,mhHYw4OjxuiWKpJOHF9+Ww==,,,1525775903 170846771,170863727,2018-05-08 10:39:46,">>170857782 >>170857815 >>170857837 >>170857858 >>170857881 >>170857919 >>170857954 >>170857977 >>170858106 cool man but what about abortion?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525775986 170846771,170863847,2018-05-08 10:40:59,">>170859746 >you NEED an institution that systematically violates property rights to protect property rights",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776059 170846771,170863887,2018-05-08 10:41:35,">>170861331 >Ultimately natural law makes no sense, it has no rational foundation Antique and scholastic ontology is its rational foundation. That, or argumentation ethics. I like the former more, but the latter also works. >breaks some key philosophical and logical boundaries and essentially asserts western cultural features as innate laws of nature, without proof There is proof. A good deal of what's written in the Summa Theologica is about what constitutes the natural law, for example. The natural law was not merely asserted back then. >as most famously seen in the line in the US constitution, ""We hold these truths to be self evident...."". Yeah, that was from filthy puritans and deists, the kinds of people that threw most ancient philosophy right out the window. >Real philosophers and logicians do no such thing, instead they painstakingly try to strip away assumptions, and sometimes find there is nothing actually holding everything up, but thats the way it goes, pretending anything else is correct is just a lie. That, I do not dispute. What I do dispute is that Aristotle, Augustinus or Saint Aquinas (or Rothbard, or Hoppe) weren't doing legitimate philosophy. >>170861390 The is-ought-problem asserts a boundary between what is and what ought to be, a boundary which does not exist by the Aristotelian tradition. Aristotle and the Scholastics said that there was a finality to human beings, a purpose, so to speak. The question ""what should I do?"" then naturally becomes ""how do I fulfill my purpose?"". Everything else is just silly. You either submit to your nature and fulfill your purpose, or you don't, in which case your nature forces itself on you. That is the teleological view on ethics (or virtue ethics) in a nutshell. The naturalistic fallacy is likewise suffering from a petitio principii. Moore said that we can never reduce the question ""what is good?"" to a tautology. Well, by the Aristotelian tradition, we absolutely can. (The answer is God.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776095 170846771,170863954,2018-05-08 10:42:22,">>170863847 Except that I can steal your shit whether or not there is a government, however with a government the threat of punishment will stop me. So you can safely develop a surplus of stuff to trade and become rich.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776142 170846771,170864208,2018-05-08 10:45:31,">>170863954 What innate feature of a coercive system grants it the sole ability to defend private property rights?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776331 170846771,170864250,2018-05-08 10:45:58,">natonal anything ism opinion discarded at record speed",,Anonymous,DXzIqQeVwAAzlQU.jpg,h1g6wWxlsF5wz7+XBhWFqA==,,,1525776358 170846771,170864330,2018-05-08 10:46:58,">>170862557 >Your neighbours will be the ones stealing from you, because just as you expect them to keep you safe they will expect you to share all that you have with them, and they will share all that they have with you as well. This environment makes acquiring a surplus very hard. Not necessarily, not when property norms are established. Which will probably happen at some point, because most people cling harder to the fruits they painstakingly gathered than the fruits their neighbor gathered. As such, a covenant establishing property rights is in everyones best interest. >Constables and sherrifs have been around since as soon as population densities became high enough that mutual trust could not keep people together, you can see this by the fact that ancient societies had laws like Hammurabi's famous one and also methods for catching and trailing criminals. No point having a law code if you cant enforce it, so the existence of the codes indicates a way of enforcing it. Iceland, but we'll come to that. Iceland aside, you didn't call on your lord or even the king whenever you had a problem. Some classes of people, like merchants, could hardly take recourse to the law, and instead established their own courts, which didn't pass any enforcable verdicts. >The Icelandic sagas are pseudohistorical, they are basically regarded as just stories at this point, which through its cultural features and institutions can tell us a bit about society. That's the first time I hear that they're pseudohistorical. I know they're filled with myths and hearsay, but like you said, they still tell us something about the times. I cannot imagine any poet deciding to conceal the features of an economic system so badly that a planned economy would come across as anarchic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776418 170846771,170864546,2018-05-08 10:49:47,">>170863887 >Antique and scholastic ontology is its rational foundation Like I said, it has no rational foundation >There is proof. A good deal of what's written in the Summa Theologica is about what constitutes the natural law, for example. The natural law was not merely asserted back then. Well it cant stand up to basic questioning so I feel like it isnt any good >That, I do not dispute. What I do dispute is that Aristotle, Augustinus or Aquinas Aristotle is only really good for logic intro, but its intuitive so you dont need him really As for the others theological philosophy was philosophy for the time, but if you wrote it now the severe lack of rigour would mean you would be laughed out of the building >The is-ought-problem asserts a boundary between what is and what ought to be, a boundary which does not exist by the Aristotelian tradition Like I said, no one takes Aristotle or anything he said seriously except for his intro to logic due to his severe lack of rigour, you might as well base your philosophy ""on the Tolkein tradition"" >The question ""what should I do?"" then naturally becomes ""how do I fulfill my purpose?"". Everything else is just silly. You either submit to your nature and fulfill your purpose, or you don't, in which case your nature forces itself on you. That is the teleological view on ethics (or virtue ethics) in a nutshell. You need to prove that humans have a purpose, and since we dont, that will be impossible to prove. >The naturalistic fallacy is likewise suffering from a petitio principii. Moore said that we can never reduce the question ""what is good?"" to a tautology. Well, by the Aristotelian tradition, we absolutely can. (The answer is God.) According to JRR Tolkien and his tradition what is good is to slaughter as many orcs as possible for gondor. I believe we should fulfil this purpose.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776587 170846771,170864586,2018-05-08 10:50:10,">>170864208 Because you need more force than the people who will steal your shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776610 170846771,170865013,2018-05-08 10:55:10,">>170863067 >Thousands of years before the epoch described in the bible society had transitioned away from the primitive communism and were living in ""asiatic"" states like I described earlier, with strong central authorities, so ""tribe"" means more like ""clan"" or small nation. This would persist until the end of the bronze age. The evidence for such a primitive communism is flimsy, though. We know these nations sometimes had a central authority keeping track of debts, but there's no proof that none of them also had voluntary trade. In a nation of a few thousand members, possibly more, you probably won't have people running to the central authority whenever they make a purchase. They will exchange a currency on the spot and that's it. Besides, if they trade with members of other nations using a currency, which you conceeded they do, then you end up with a market that is no supervised by any state. How can that be reconciled with your idea that the state is necessary to have a market? >Except that its very hard to keep time, mechanical clocks werent invented until after the middle ages and before that the best you had were sundials (useless on rainy or grey days and changing with the earths axial tilt) or water clocks, which are large an bulky and not actually that useful. Also as labour was seasonal and not hour based (that type of labour didnt arrive until the early 1800s) it would also have been pointless. So its not that ""they didnt care"", they had no need to, and it was have been hard anyway. No need to pursue that further, I agree with most of what you said here.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776910 170846771,170865038,2018-05-08 10:55:25,">>170864330 >Not necessarily, not when property norms are established. Property norms require the ability to acquire a surplus, which means you will have to keep your shit from being taken by others, which requires property norms....... >Iceland, but we'll come to that. Iceland aside, you didn't call on your lord or even the king whenever you had a problem. Some classes of people, like merchants, could hardly take recourse to the law, and instead established their own courts, which didn't pass any enforcable verdicts. There were sheriffs and constables for a town, that would catch people and then a primitive court would try them. These sherriffs were often unpopular and were sometimes attacked if the king wanted a new tax. >That's the first time I hear that they're pseudohistorical. I know they're filled with myths and hearsay, but like you said, they still tell us something about the times. I cannot imagine any poet deciding to conceal the features of an economic system so badly that a planned economy would come across as anarchic. Bede doesnt talk about the forces of production and hierarchy, so expecting the sagas to do the same is idiotic, considering that most of it is folk tales.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776925 170846771,170865067,2018-05-08 10:55:44,">>170858908 Colossal if correct",,Anonymous,aa5.png,h5oChpOb5YaFnasTBu8B2g==,US,,1525776944 170846771,170865142,2018-05-08 10:56:35,">>170864586 Why can only a state achieve this?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525776995 170846771,170865460,2018-05-08 11:00:24,">>170865013 >The evidence for such a primitive communism is flimsy, though Actually you can find it directly in places like PNG > We know these nations sometimes had a central authority keeping track of debts, but there's no proof that none of them also had voluntary trade I never said it didnt. >Besides, if they trade with members of other nations using a currency, which you conceeded they do, then you end up with a market that is no supervised by any state. How can that be reconciled with your idea that the state is necessary to have a market? Because you left one state, and then entered another one. It was still supervised by a state. Also in general a state is required to acquire property rights to prevent theft. This is a fact that most historians and economists other than libertarians are perfectly ok with. You need a deterrent to stop people stealing shit, therefore you need a lot of force for this. Therefore you need a state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525777224 170846771,170865477,2018-05-08 11:00:41,">>170865067 look it up. Debt economies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525777241 170846771,170865533,2018-05-08 11:01:08,">>170846771 >This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists same difference, theory vs practice >national capitalists and some monarchists. oh, it's just another retarded stormfag shilling thread fetuses and infants aren't people. they have the same actual rights and 'moral value' as any other unconscious animal. we project personhood onto infants in the presumption that they will, in our modern, stable, medically and agriculturally advanced society, survive to attain personhood (undoubtedly some time after birth, exact definition will always be fuzzy, mirror test says ~18 months but that's not actually a great test). any date we set to discern legal terms of assumed-future-personhood is going to be significantly arbitrary. first mother-independent breathing is fine IMO.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525777268 170846771,170865692,2018-05-08 11:02:53,">>170865142 Because a state provides the mechanism for mobilising people to do force on others for reasons other than personal gain. It provides the idea of legitimacy, which gives its rules like ""dont steal"" actual weight, weight which it can back up by force. If a dude steals another dudes shit and somebody attacks him to stop him, you need a reason for the people not to flay the attacker alive and instead accept his authority.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525777373 170846771,170865711,2018-05-08 11:03:08,">>170864546 >Like I said, it has no rational foundation Well, then it's on you to show that ontology is not just wrong, but irrational. Asking me to make a positive case for it goes to far, in my opinion. >Well it cant stand up to basic questioning so I feel like it isnt any good Same here. What is this basic questioning you invoke? >Aristotle is only really good for logic intro, but its intuitive so you dont need him really >As for the others theological philosophy was philosophy for the time, but if you wrote it now the severe lack of rigour would mean you would be laughed out of the building And here. You should demonstrate that, not just assert it. >Like I said, no one takes Aristotle or anything he said seriously except for his intro to logic due to his severe lack of rigour, you might as well base your philosophy ""on the Tolkein tradition"" Same. >You need to prove that humans have a purpose, and since we dont, that will be impossible to prove. Finality is goal-orientedness. It's a very intuitive concept, so intuitive that we cannot even describe biological mechanisms without implicitly invoking it. Are humans goal-oriented? Considering that there are certain behavioral patterns that are universal, I would say the answer is yes. >>170864586 >Because you need more force than the people who will steal your shit. His question amounted to this: Why does your protector have to steal from you to gain the ability to defend your property rights? That, you didn't answer.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525777388 170846771,170866305,2018-05-08 11:10:20,">>170865711 >Asking me to make a positive case for it goes to far, in my opinion. Well your opinion is wrong, and you know that anything you say I can and will just ask ""why?"" and that eventually you will have no answer other than just telling me its self evident, so I would just stop there and drop your shitty outdated ontology not touched by anyone in the past few hundred years. >Same here. What is this basic questioning you invoke? You posted shit about natural rights, it was crap. I questioned it, you showed your flawed reasoning, it didnt stand up as it essentially assumed that a thought is basically a rock, or that subjectivity didnt exist. >And here. You should demonstrate that, not just assert it. Post your thoughts to a logician. I dare you >Finality is goal-orientedness. It's a very intuitive concept, so intuitive that we cannot even describe biological mechanisms without implicitly invoking it. Are humans goal-oriented? Considering that there are certain behavioral patterns that are universal, I would say the answer is yes. However you need to prove what exactly this goal is, and as soon as you try to I can simply go ""why?"" ""why is it a goal?"" and you will have no answer. >His question amounted to this: Why does your protector have to steal from you to gain the ability to defend your property rights? That, you didn't answer. wut. What is social contract theory. Its still shit, but it provides nice explanation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525777820 170846771,170866377,2018-05-08 11:11:17,">>170865692 Alright, so we need a state because the state is the source of legitmate property claims? I hope I understand you right. If that is correct, then how does the state establish who the legitamate property owner is?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525777877 170846771,170866450,2018-05-08 11:12:15,how did a literal meme like nation bolshevism become so fucking pervasive?,,Anonymous,,,,,1525777935 170846771,170866581,2018-05-08 11:13:53,">>170866450 It's still a meme- leftypol raiding thinking that nazbol is more relatable to us.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1525778033 170846771,170866655,2018-05-08 11:14:47,">>170866377 Thats the history of capitalism, 100 million marxists would love to tell you how property relations evolved over the time. If you really want to know, literally google it, there are a lot more people who will be able to explain it better than I can",,Anonymous,,,,,1525778087 170846771,170866692,2018-05-08 11:15:12,">>170865038 >Property norms require the ability to acquire a surplus, which means you will have to keep your shit from being taken by others, which requires property norms....... Keeping others from taking your things only requires that you hide them, or that you use force. Not even a large amount of force, most likely, as your neighbors will hardly be very mad at you for withholding something from them if they have no concept of ""mine"" and ""yours"". I think it's pretty much proven that humans have an innate knowledge of the concept of property, but even if we assume they don't, it's not at all hard to show how property norms can be created through a covenant. >Bede doesnt talk about the forces of production and hierarchy, so expecting the sagas to do the same is idiotic, considering that most of it is folk tales. If there's no mention whatsoever of a public account of debts in a work of 400 pages, half of which are arbitrations in court, then it's safe to say there was no such account. >>170865460 >Actually you can find it directly in places like PNG What's PNG? >Because you left one state, and then entered another one. It was still supervised by a state. Was it? Territorial sovereignty is not that old, and a personally bound sovereignty cannot be exercised when two tribes meet each other as contractual partners and hence as equals. >Also in general a state is required to acquire property rights to prevent theft. This is a fact that most historians and economists other than libertarians are perfectly ok with. And that none of them really ever think about. You make it sound like this was some insight backed by reasoning and evidence, when the question of whether we need a state to prevent theft just plain isn't asked by anyone but libertarians and people that debate with libertarians. >You need a deterrent to stop people stealing shit, therefore you need a lot of force for this. Therefore you need a state. Will talk about this soon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525778112 170846771,170867104,2018-05-08 11:20:02,"why do people think ""le only X does abortions and its good to keep them out of gene pool"" ? the fact they abort their kids in highschool or whatever, does not imply that those same people dont have kids later in their 30s and therefore contaminate gene pool with subhuman mentality regardless people think that if someone gets abortion it means they will never have their shitty kids big mistake",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1525778402 170846771,170867169,2018-05-08 11:20:48,">>170866692 >Keeping others from taking your things only requires that you hide them, or that you use force. Not even a large amount of force, most likely, as your neighbors will hardly be very mad at you for withholding something from them if they have no concept of ""mine"" and ""yours"". However if you use force against them they will hate you, and will socially ostracise you, you are part of the same tribe after all, you are supposed to care for each other, not withhold things. > I think it's pretty much proven that humans have an innate knowledge of the concept of property, but even if we assume they don't, it's not at all hard to show how property norms can be created through a covenant. We dont have an innate knowledge of property, tribal peoples like those in the amazon or the Australian outback didnt have property until the Europeans arrived >What's PNG? Papua New Guinea >Was it? Territorial sovereignty is not that old, and a personally bound sovereignty cannot be exercised when two tribes meet each other as contractual partners and hence as equals. Territorial sovereignty is very very old, it didnt begin at westphalia. Tribes never entered into contracts, they met basically only to fight, celebrate or exchange brides or shit like that. >And that none of them really ever think about. You make it sound like this was some insight backed by reasoning and evidence, when the question of whether we need a state to prevent theft just plain isn't asked by anyone but libertarians and people that debate with libertarians. Libertarians are the flat earthers of political and economic theorey",,Anonymous,,,,,1525778448 170846771,170867276,2018-05-08 11:21:47,">>170866692 >>170865460 >You need a deterrent to stop people stealing shit, therefore you need a lot of force for this. Therefore you need a state. Alright, then. Your first premise is oversimplified. You don't need to actively deter most people once property norms are generally accepted. Maryland did without any effective state authority for several years and public order didn't break down. In fact, in your own neighborhood, most people won't even think about stealing from you. If people ran a cost-benefit-analysis whenever they encountered foreign property, then law enforcement would be downright impossible. Now, there are some would-be thieves that you really do have to deter. For that, you require force. Not necessarily ""a lot"" of it. Even if you do, there is no saying at all that only a state can possess ""a lot"" (meaning sufficient) force. It would be on you to prove that. Why does only the state possess sufficient force? Because it is the only entity with enough resources, or because it holds a monopoly of force, or some other reason?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525778507 170846771,170867415,2018-05-08 11:23:04,">>170846771 Pro-choice faggots hate this meme.",,Anonymous,DcdQq2mUQAAX4ZO.jpg-large.jpg,pXdNyBbBFP98KJe39UDKag==,US,,1525778584 170846771,170867557,2018-05-08 11:24:36,">>170867104 Pro-choicers are pretty retarded in that regard. >>170865533 Seems like /pol/ contaminated your mind",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1525778676 170846771,170867558,2018-05-08 11:24:37,">>170867276 >You don't need to actively deter most people once property norms are generally accepted. But this is the part that you require a state for. This first critical piece of the puzzle, the establishing of the idea of property, the idea that it is ok to gain a surplus of things. This requires a state. People wouldnt even consider it theft, its just sharing, sharing other peoples stuff just as they share theirs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525778677 170846771,170867748,2018-05-08 11:26:57,">>170866305 >Well your opinion is wrong, and you know that anything you say I can and will just ask ""why?"" and that eventually you will have no answer other than just telling me its self evident, so I would just stop there and drop your shitty outdated ontology not touched by anyone in the past few hundred years. If you constantly ask ""why?"" even past the point where things become self-evident, then yes, I will break off the conversation and talk with a better conversation partner. Notice how above, I talked about why the is-ought-problem and the naturalistic fallacy are wrong, instead of just asking ""why"". I do that because I don't want to be shitty. Constantly asking questions is shitty, not because eventually you'll win the debate that way, but because the debate will become so boring and tedious that everyone in his right mind will leave you for someone not as lazy, possibly after giving you a few literature tips to satisfy your curiosity. That said: >Ethica Thomistica, Ralph McInerny >After Virtue, Alastair MacIntyre >Aquinas, Edward Feser >Five Proofs for the Existence of God, Edward Feser",,Anonymous,,,,,1525778817 170846771,170867907,2018-05-08 11:28:47,">>170866655 If you won’t even give me how a state determines the rightful owner to property, how could you possibly tell me why only the staye is capable of arbitrating with that undetermined method? My argument is that property rights stem from original appropriation (being the first to mix your labor with someonething not owned aka homesteading) Or through voluntary exchange. The state is not needed for this and is only detrimental to this principle as it regularly infringes on property rights without the consent of the rightful owner.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525778927 170846771,170868112,2018-05-08 11:31:28,">>170867748 >If you constantly ask ""why?"" even past the point where things become self-evident, I will break off the conversation and talk with a better conversation partner Except that the problem is the claim that things are self evident. The ciritical weakness is the claim that something is self evident. It can be used to justify literally everything, and therefore is useless. >Notice how above, I talked about why the is-ought-problem and the naturalistic fallacy are wrong, instead of just asking ""why"". I do that because I don't want to be shitty. You havent questioned it, you've just gone. ""It doesnt leave room for my 13th century philosophers, therefore it must be wrong"". You havent proved anything, just said that your ideas are incompatible with them, which essentially acts as proof that your ideas are false.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525779088 170846771,170868166,2018-05-08 11:32:15,">>170867907 A state determines who the rightful owner is by whatever fucking way it wants.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525779135 170846771,170868208,2018-05-08 11:32:46,">>170846771 All children can legally aborted until age 18 after which you need a signed contract.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525779166 170846771,170868226,2018-05-08 11:33:15,">>170867748 >Constantly asking questions is shitty, not because eventually you'll win the debate that way, but because the debate will become so boring and tedious that everyone in his right mind will leave you for someone not as lazy, possibly after giving you a few literature tips to satisfy your curiosity. Constantly asking questions is literally philosophy",,Anonymous,,,,,1525779195 170846771,170868262,2018-05-08 11:33:43,">>170857815 Based",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525779223 170846771,170868411,2018-05-08 11:36:01,">>170868166 Great, so your entire philosophy of property rights is the arbitrary whims of the strongest bully around. Thanks for admitting it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525779361 170846771,170868425,2018-05-08 11:36:07,ITT brainlets,,Anonymous,345345347656.gif,+/Lpn7mnKt1XcicokYCAzA==,NL,,1525779367 170846771,170868492,2018-05-08 11:37:05,">>170868411 yep. Rights dont actually exist, nothing entitles you to anything. If you can get it you can get it, if you cant then you cant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525779425 170846771,170868645,2018-05-08 11:39:16,Major cringe at this NazBol retard,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525779556 170846771,170869014,2018-05-08 11:44:46,">>170867169 >However if you use force against them they will hate you, and will socially ostracise you, you are part of the same tribe after all, you are supposed to care for each other, not withhold things. They will ostracize you if you decide to keep a handful of berries that you picked yourself? That doesn't hold up. You proclaim an inevitability that just isn't there. >We dont have an innate knowledge of property, tribal peoples like those in the amazon or the Australian outback didnt have property until the Europeans arrived Even young children know when a toy belongs to them or someone else. I think they even tested it on babies. I'm willing to bet that even in the tribes you mentioned, people can make sense of property rights and apply them to at least some items. They sure won't share hunting trophies in common. >Territorial sovereignty is very very old, it didnt begin at westphalia. The way territorial sovereignty is treated now, it didn't exist. There was no anonymous ""state"" that could do whatever it wanted on its own territory. That idea is new. Sure, you still had elders or chiefs that exercised authority and owned land, but nothing like the state we have nowadays. >Tribes never entered into contracts, they met basically only to fight, celebrate or exchange brides or shit like that. Marriages are a kind of contract, and you yourself conceeded that there was trade between tribes. >Libertarians are the flat earthers of political and economic theorey Can we cut the childish stuff out? Calling me a flat earther is as much of a valid argument as me calling your mother fat would be.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525779886 170846771,170869060,2018-05-08 11:45:28,">>170846771 Children are, for better or for worse, your property even if you wish to ""humanely"" kill them. It's incredibly evil, but the reality is that taxpayers pick up the tab for shitty parents with obese kids, which is a much slower and much more common way parents kill their own. Besides, if you're inclined to have an abortion, then you're doing us a favor by removing your bloodline. It almost seems natural to some people, like some universe 25 shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525779928 170846771,170869223,2018-05-08 11:47:27,">>170869060 >Children are...property ???",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525780047 170846771,170869244,2018-05-08 11:47:45,">>170868492 Imagine being a grown adult and thinking that thinks like rights and property actually exist and are not just social constructs.......",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525780065 170846771,170869457,2018-05-08 11:50:23,">>170858203 How is a rape baby different l, surely the baby shouldn't be condemned to death for the sins of the father.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525780223 170846771,170869465,2018-05-08 11:50:29,">>170869223 They are though. Tradition is pretty clear on this. You raise them and dedicate your life to them so that they may become a well adjusted human being. Before adulthood kids are reliant on their parents. If you can't establish that tenant then what reason do kids have to listen to their parents, or any authority? They shouldn't be treated like property, but in an effective socoety that's what they are. Besides, let them earn their place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525780229 170846771,170869556,2018-05-08 11:51:28,">>170869014 >They will ostracize you if you decide to keep a handful of berries that you picked yourself? That doesn't hold up. You proclaim an inevitability that just isn't there. They will expect you to share. If there is no notion of ""mine"" then everything is ""ours"", and you are simply keeping ""our"" stuff away from us. >Even young children know when a toy belongs to them or someone else. I think they even tested it on babies. I'm willing to bet that even in the tribes you mentioned, people can make sense of property rights and apply them to at least some items. They sure won't share hunting trophies in common. Fetishes dont really count, they are only of sentimental value, not of any productive or recreational value like a TV or a sack of grain. >The way territorial sovereignty is treated now, it didn't exist. There was no anonymous ""state"" that could do whatever it wanted on its own territory. That idea is new. Sure, you still had elders or chiefs that exercised authority and owned land, but nothing like the state we have nowadays. Actually states have always been able to do what they wanted on their own land, the problem was that other neighbouring armies could also do what they wanted on your lands. Without westphalian national sovereignty a state simply existed until it was gobbled up. >Marriages are a kind of contract, and you yourself conceeded that there was trade between tribes. Mostly ceremonial trade, like bride prices and dowries. Essentially mutual gift giving rather than an economic transaction.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525780288 170846771,170869664,2018-05-08 11:52:56,">>170846771 An honest question to all you self-righteous pro-choice faggots, do you believe in human rights? Because not all rights are equal in importance. In abortion cases, the right to live of the baby is ALWAYS above the right to property of the mother (in this case of her body and the right to do with it as she pleases) There are no buts. If you are pro choice and you are ok with babies being murdered, that's fine, but call it by it's name (MURDER) and stop deluding yourself into thinking you are moral people. It's ok really, thousands of innocent people die and suffer injustice while we sit comfy on our asses all day long in wealthy western countries without giving a shit. Pro-choice ideas are not what bothers me so much but the typical moral hypocrisy of the people who hold these very views.",,Anonymous,leftie hypocrisy.jpg,kPcjSDr/XSL0cAlmP6ri7g==,DE,,1525780376 170846771,170870052,2018-05-08 11:57:47,">>170869664 What is life, other than the gift of a body and the freedom to do what you please with it?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525780667 170846771,170870266,2018-05-08 12:00:16,">>170867558 >But this is the part that you require a state for. This first critical piece of the puzzle, the establishing of the idea of property, the idea that it is ok to gain a surplus of things. This requires a state. People wouldnt even consider it theft, its just sharing, sharing other peoples stuff just as they share theirs. Your reasoning is self-refuting. If no one would ever so much as think about property rights, the state wouldn't, either. >>170868112 >Except that the problem is the claim that things are self evident. The Founding Fathers said the natural law is self-evident, I didn't. You seem to get hung up on a specific wording that I never used. >The ciritical weakness is the claim that something is self evident. It can be used to justify literally everything, and therefore is useless. Some things are self-evident, though. At least so self-evident that to question them is silly. That's not a rule of logic, it's a rule of discourse. Aristotle established why A cannot be not-A, so it's not like this rule is beyond an explanation, but if you actually demand an explanation for it, you're still an asshole. >You havent questioned it, you've just gone. ""It doesnt leave room for my 13th century philosophers, therefore it must be wrong"". You havent proved anything, just said that your ideas are incompatible with them, which essentially acts as proof that your ideas are false. And here too, you misunderstand the difference between me not having the answers and me not wanting to spoonfeed them all to you. I'm not writing a book here, I'm conversing with you. If I wrote a book, I'd answer all your questions in advance. Here, in an online discussion, I won't do that. I showed you an alternative approach and answered possible objections to it. If I'm supposed to make a conclusive, watertight case for my position, then so are you. >>170868166 No, it motherfucking doesn't. My slur is meaner, so I'm right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525780816 170846771,170870576,2018-05-08 12:04:29,">>170870266 >>170868112 Now, as to why I brought up Hume and Moore again: To show that I did your work, too, which makes it unfair that you'd put excessive demands on my own work. You never explained Hume and Moore. I did, in addition to explaining my own position. Invoking your own position is enough for you, but I have to conclusively prove and not just invoke mine? Not gonna do that. >>170868226 It's not debating, though. Of course, a good philosopher is not afraid to ask yet further questions, but once he's debating someone (you know, for the purpose of demonstrating the superiority of his own position), that is a different matter.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525781069 170846771,170870825,2018-05-08 12:07:29,">>170870266 the state once existing would want to secure a surplus for their leaders and a means to maintain this surplus. So no, if a state exists then property rights do. >Some things are self-evident, though. At least so self-evident that to question them is silly. That's not a rule of logic, it's a rule of discourse. Except that like I said, that can be used to justify everything, and so ""its self evident"" is literally the weakest thing ever said and is by its very own nature unprovable, and so is false. >Aristotle established why A cannot be not-A, so it's not like this rule is beyond an explanation, but if you actually demand an explanation for it, you're still an asshole. The law of identity is except not because refuting it makes you an asshole, but because otherwise all logic collapses. Dont confuse ""rules of discourse"" with actual rules of logic >And here too, you misunderstand the difference between me not having the answers and me not wanting to spoonfeed them all to you. I'm not writing a book here, I'm conversing with you. If I wrote a book, I'd answer all your questions in advance. Here, in an online discussion, I won't do that. I showed you an alternative approach and answered possible objections to it. If I'm supposed to make a conclusive, watertight case for my position, then so are you. The watertight case for these positions is both that the opposite is fundamentally impossible to prove, in fact they are the same thing. Both just say ""if something does exist, prove to me that it SHOULD exist"". And you will never be able to do that, you can never prove a should, because you can always ask ""why?"" and they will have to have another answer until they have no more.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525781249 170846771,170871041,2018-05-08 12:10:01,">>170870576 >Now, as to why I brought up Hume and Moore again: To show that I did your work, too, which makes it unfair that you'd put excessive demands on my own work. You never explained Hume and Moore. I did, in addition to explaining my own position. Invoking your own position is enough for you, but I have to conclusively prove and not just invoke mine? Not gonna do that. You are ultimately making a positive claim, you are the one that has to do they proving. Besides I explained my Tolkien tradition, I feel like asking me to prove why we should kill orcs is unfair >It's not debating, though. Of course, a good philosopher is not afraid to ask yet further questions, but once he's debating someone (you know, for the purpose of demonstrating the superiority of his own position), that is a different matter. Nigga what. This is not an actual rule, people always ask why in debating. They have to prove their shit, so naturally they have to explain why and they demand explanation why. Fuck off with your scholastic shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525781401 170846771,170871187,2018-05-08 12:11:43,">>170870052 The problem is that individual freedoms must be constrained by morality (through law) to ensure a stable social order. Your freedom ends where that of anothers begin. You can do whatever you want with your body as long as it doesn't harm someone else. The same principle applies to murder, theft, exploitation, etc. So no, it's not as simple as to say muh freedoms and period, like your average amerimutt.",,Anonymous,karma.gif,f2OO5U8H7QdIMpQAJ5a/JQ==,DE,,1525781503 170846771,170871880,2018-05-08 12:19:45,"Polycentric law approach to abortion is the only coherent ancap position. A position that we cannot let people abort begs the question: What is the limit of our intervention? Should ancaps invade communities/countries where abortion is being practiced? If we say the limit to our law and morals is the geography of the country of choice then we'd be rejecting the idea of secession and free association, incurring in a contradiction Another different topic is how we project that polycentric law would effectively work in a society, and I tend to believe that what we would see would be cities and communities where abortion is not allowed, or very limited, more successful than those where abortion is allowed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525781985 170846771,170871940,2018-05-08 12:20:21,"1) Jews did both. 2) Libertarians are the problem.",,Anonymous,Political_chart4.png,IvZSHsrkj42ybRS+JH5GmQ==,US,,1525782021 170846771,170872681,2018-05-08 12:28:25,>>170871940,,Anonymous,truth.png,GhFEy5leA2nzOzqC6caknQ==,FR,,1525782505 170846771,170872923,2018-05-08 12:31:13,">>170871041 >You are ultimately making a positive claim, you are the one that has to do they proving. There is no such thing as a burden of proof on anyone in particular, except within the confines of expediency within a debate. That whoever makes a positive claim ought to prove it is a good general rule, but only that. In our case, it wouldn't have applied. Again: You invoked two arguments for your own position without explaining them. I laid down my own position at a length that's quite considerable for an online debate (with a character limit of 2000, which I almost crossed multiple times). One purpose of the burden of proof is to prevent just such an asymmetry in a debate. >Besides I explained my Tolkien tradition, I feel like asking me to prove why we should kill orcs is unfair I told you not to play games. This is childish. >Nigga what. This is not an actual rule, people always ask why in debating. Not constantly. They eventually start elaborating on their own position and actually refuting arguments instead of just asking questions. >Fuck off with your scholastic shit. Thanks. I keep my scholastic shit, and you keep your gay scotsman.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525782673 170846771,170873159,2018-05-08 12:33:55,">>170857206 JUCHE GANG",,Anonymous,,,,,1525782835 170846771,170873178,2018-05-08 12:34:13,">>170857815 There is no free will.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525782853 170846771,170873257,2018-05-08 12:35:04,">>170857858 Natiral law = physics NAZBOL GANG CONFIRMED FOR NATURAL LAW",,Anonymous,,,,,1525782904 170846771,170873532,2018-05-08 12:38:07,">>170860031 The chokeslam and the tombstone piledriver.",,Anonymous,Kane’s+Libertarianism.jpg,JTFrLNGM3DJ3ZqDf7rIBJQ==,CL,,1525783087 170846771,170873610,2018-05-08 12:38:59,">>170858958 Gravity exists thus nazbol is best.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525783139 170846771,170873741,2018-05-08 12:40:28,">>170859039 >Everything is capitalism except that we don’t have real capitalism",,Anonymous,,,,,1525783228 170846771,170873891,2018-05-08 12:41:52,"Did they censor these words now? naziboi nazibois naziboy naziboys nazi naz",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525783312 170846771,170874393,2018-05-08 12:47:06,I'm just curious as to what a society like this looks like. In both the past and the present. Have always wondered because while the values seem strong I've never seen how they push us forward as/into society.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525783626 170846771,170874720,2018-05-08 12:50:21,">>170872923 Why do you bother arguing with this retard? He clearly stated his argument ultimately boils down to might makes right, and that rights do not exist. How can you possibly have a debate with someone who holds that position?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525783821 170846771,170874960,2018-05-08 12:52:58,">>170872681 >l*bertardians >humans",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1525783978 170846771,170876027,2018-05-08 13:04:44,">>170874720 >The virgin ancap vs the chad nazbol",,Anonymous,,,,,1525784684 170846771,170876944,2018-05-08 13:13:28,">>170872681 So basically right-libertarians and left-authoritarians are both logically consistent, it's just that the former are moral.",,Anonymous,NAP Compass.png,TuQypLCZZ+xG/FTff/+4GA==,US,,1525785208 170846771,170878644,2018-05-08 13:29:50,">>170863606 >citation needed. that which is claimed without evidence etc etc the fact that the will be no state to stop company owners to import niggers and replace white workers is one of the biggest reasons why we should put all lolberarians in front of the wall . of course you can say >company owners can employ white workers if they wanted to , they cant now under the state because muh racism maybe they will do it for month or two , but they will realize that other companies who have nogs and beaners working for low wages are now way ahead of him and he will have to do the same if he doesnt want to go bankrupt the other reason companies will destroy white communities is that other races besides arabs and nips , consume more . beaners and niggers buy drugs , prostitutes , guns to shoot each other , fast food etc. and that is how kikes make money to spin the world . long story short all lolbertarians are either reatards or kikes , makes sence since popular lolbertarians like Ayn rand are kikes",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525786190 170846771,170878657,2018-05-08 13:29:56,">>170863182 Comunism is a distopia.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525786196 170846771,170878861,2018-05-08 13:31:55,">>170878657 so is lolberarainism",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525786315 170846771,170879058,2018-05-08 13:33:54,">>170846771 People who get abortions are people you don’t want breeding in the first place. It’s like they are doing the genocide for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525786434 170846771,170879667,2018-05-08 13:40:21,">>170878861 Early America was already a great nation, whileas early communist USSR was a hellhole.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1525786821 170846771,170879771,2018-05-08 13:41:17,">>170879058 >implying they won't have another child in the future they won't abort Ameribrainlets",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1525786877 170846771,170879897,2018-05-08 13:42:36,">>170879667 see >>170862652",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525786956 170846771,170879912,2018-05-08 13:42:49,">>170857858 >natural law Why not UPB?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525786969 170846771,170880284,2018-05-08 13:46:42,">>170879771 >implying they will",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525787202 170846771,170880592,2018-05-08 13:49:52,">>170880284 >being this sure about that /pol/'s retardness astounds me everyday.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1525787392 170846771,170880771,2018-05-08 13:51:40,">>170878861 Explain yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525787500 170846771,170881432,2018-05-08 13:58:14,">>170880592 > being this delusional we live in post modernist state kid , not in 50s where having a family is normal . Celibacy , individualism and feminism has got deep roots in our society and more and more whites decide not to marry or have a family , same shit in japan , there teens are buying hentai figures , manga , watch hentai on tv , internet , capitalism made them do this , now more and more nips find imaginary characters more attractive than real life people and refuse to start families , same shit is happening here in the west",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525787894 170846771,170881531,2018-05-08 13:59:14,">>170880771 see >>170878644 >>170862652",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525787954 170846771,170881756,2018-05-08 14:01:10,">>170846771 Abort as many babies as possible, stop overpopulation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525788070 170846771,170882800,2018-05-08 14:10:11,">>170861331 This",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525788611 170846771,170883264,2018-05-08 14:14:06,">>170881756 McNuke Africa, stop overpopulation.",,Anonymous,ancap andy.jpg,nJJiImciDuRCuXn4r+lycw==,,,1525788846 170846771,170883392,2018-05-08 14:14:59,">>170881432 >we live in post modernist state kid , not in 50s where having a family is normal . Celibacy , individualism and feminism has got deep roots in our society and more and more whites decide not to marry or have a family , same shit in japan , there teens are buying hentai figures , manga , watch hentai on tv , internet , capitalism made them do this , now more and more nips find imaginary characters more attractive than real life people and refuse to start families , same shit is happening here in the west You're delusional yourself, and probably shit every turd nu-/pol/ gives to you. There are still families in this enviroment, and one abortion won't stop the parents from actually begetting a child.",,Anonymous,A N A R C H Y.png,o5WeoFZyhiHNe41P4M2s/A==,AT,,1525788899 170846771,170883466,2018-05-08 14:15:34,">>170883392 eat* not shit.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1525788934 170846771,170883543,2018-05-08 14:16:09,">>170879897 I have seen that pile of horseshit, and I disagree. There's no way from tyranny to liberty, state interference got us into this mess in the first place, stop being a White communist and read Democracy - The God that Failed.",,Anonymous,lrg right wing revolution.png,iqvmEhK89v/DCiRS5PmN0g==,,,1525788969 170846771,170883878,2018-05-08 14:18:15,">>170883543 HAIL NAZBOL, HAIL EURASIA, HAIL MARX. YOUR DOUBLEPLUSBAD POST WILL RESULT IN GULAG.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525789095 170846771,170883959,2018-05-08 14:18:47,Bumping the fuck out of this. /pol/ is a reactionary board that shall not fall to babykilling perverts and modernist degenerates. Embrace responsibility over your lives and cut out any bad influences on your actions - even those which might come back with armed thugs trying to reassert their dominance over you.,,Anonymous,ancapball hoppe siege waco gif.gif,yp/eYgVZHdUhRie38pxFww==,,,1525789127 170846771,170884012,2018-05-08 14:19:12,">>170883392 >still anon ...",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525789152 170846771,170884245,2018-05-08 14:20:44,">>170883878 Your doubleplusbad will result in your death, either a swift one by helicopter-induced impact at terminal velocity in case you fail, or a drawn-out painful one by starvation in case you succeed. Heads - we win, tails - you lose. Now throw your bullshit ideology out of the window and bend the knee to the Natural Elite.",,Anonymous,A I R B O R N E.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1525789244 170846771,170884561,2018-05-08 14:22:40,">>170883543 democracy is shit , liberty is a spook democracy is what is killing my country , we are so deep into shit with debts , corruption and low workforce that people start missing communism . fuck your (((liberty)))",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525789360 170846771,170884573,2018-05-08 14:22:44,">>170884245 Nazbol gang cannot be thrown out of the helicopter because the helicopter will get SEIZED by the gang the moment we step inside. Nazbol will never result in starvation and will result in the greatest food distribution system on the planet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525789364 170846771,170884720,2018-05-08 14:23:38,">>170884012 There are though? Not my fault you live in a shithole where your mothers get shared.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1525789418 170846771,170884901,2018-05-08 14:24:55,">>170884561 Democracy is a Jewish construct aimed to destroy European traditions of sovereignity and nobility. It is anti-thetical to liberty, and if you reject liberty, then slavery is what you deserve and shall receive, lemming trash.",,Anonymous,cantwell removal.jpg,if69dPfLPTbo5GdlATVg9Q==,,,1525789495 170846771,170885024,2018-05-08 14:25:54,">>170884720 The nazbol gang will SEIZE the means of reproduction.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525789554 170846771,170885144,2018-05-08 14:26:46,>>170884573,,Anonymous,commies vs pinochet.jpg,40BFip92jjGyGDtSv/DPog==,,,1525789606 170846771,170885157,2018-05-08 14:26:53,">>170884901 Das rite, the nazbol gang will have the freedom to enslave stupid kulaks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525789613 170846771,170885370,2018-05-08 14:28:18,">>170885144 >Get bankrolled by cia, kill some nationalists in your country for opposing multinationals >Le gommies wrecked Meanwhile the NAZBOL china is becoming the largest world power.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525789698 170846771,170885581,2018-05-08 14:30:01,">>170884901 moral liberty , i am talking about moral liberty , that is what you get when you establish liberty and believe me its total shit",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525789801 170846771,170885663,2018-05-08 14:30:32,">>170885370 china has BOL in it ?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525789832 170846771,170885668,2018-05-08 14:30:33,">>170846771 >tfw Celtic republican monarchist We need to revive the Gallic spirit. Individualism, bravery, family, honor, tradition, freedom, liberty, and political equality",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525789833 170846771,170885912,2018-05-08 14:32:27,">>170846771 >muh heligobbder the left and nazbols should unite to eradicate this trash",,Joseph Stalin III,cdb35d92a40d3ed24cf296b845c8c35ae1f05a16f79fea0f62c556860a40d7aa.png,TUgXjV4s9sr4mFvrEw/IBw==,,,1525789947 170846771,170885946,2018-05-08 14:32:40,">>170885663 The communist party pretty much owns the country.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525789960 170846771,170886133,2018-05-08 14:34:09,">>170885946 yeah , its filled with billionares",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525790049 170846771,170886250,2018-05-08 14:35:13,">>170885912 Butthurt commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525790113 170846771,170886357,2018-05-08 14:36:11,">>170886133 Much rather have a semi meritocratic one party dictatorship than a herediary plutocracy desu.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525790171 170846771,170886414,2018-05-08 14:36:34,">>170885370 Red China, you mean. The only real China is situated on a small island off the coast of the Red Waste.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525790194 170846771,170886436,2018-05-08 14:36:43,">>170859602 >Still cannot counter his argument Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525790203 170846771,170886442,2018-05-08 14:36:45,">>170886250 go back to sucking Jew dick",,Joseph Stalin III,0b5.jpg,b2CVz8aqUEw8PPbu32dNag==,,,1525790205 170846771,170886560,2018-05-08 14:37:48,>>170885912,,Anonymous,lefty memes vs righty memes.jpg,5Rw2w/oX+VwsJ7e98iSJig==,,,1525790268 170846771,170886758,2018-05-08 14:39:18,">>170886442 >Forgets who made communism and who controlled it. >t.brainlet commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525790358 170846771,170886826,2018-05-08 14:39:46,">>170886414 Remind me again which country holds the position ”china” in the US?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525790386 170846771,170886840,2018-05-08 14:39:50,">>170886357 based nazbol",,Joseph Stalin III,0215361419091c5c3233d6893749f9b0d25b8b55.jpg,Udmd+zCZchen6fORVg+aIg==,,,1525790390 170846771,170886873,2018-05-08 14:40:07,">>170886560 Oh the irony.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525790407 170846771,170886954,2018-05-08 14:40:50,">>170886826 Remind me again why your ideology is a massive failure?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525790450 170846771,170887047,2018-05-08 14:41:30,">>170886758 >very well known fact that the Hebrews wrote the Dead Sea Communist Manifesto in 300 B.C. pic related",,Joseph Stalin III,72ee8f17ba460310cc85363b9a2a674c90c84cf3.jpg,nF3qE/gWQrz3xjDSHNdoqg==,,,1525790490 170846771,170887048,2018-05-08 14:41:31,">>170886954 >Top world power >Failiure",,Anonymous,,,,,1525790491 170846771,170887341,2018-05-08 14:43:41,">>170887048 >I ITD TOP WORLD Is slowly crumbling lurk moar. Also china hardly uses your ideology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525790621 170846771,170887353,2018-05-08 14:43:45,">>170887048 >failure let's ask those who experienced commu...wait",,Joseph Stalin III,download.png,4klF06ljaLA5NS4YawL3tQ==,,,1525790625 170846771,170887508,2018-05-08 14:44:59,">>170887353 >I grabbed this from ((sputniks) T.brainlet commie.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525790699 170846771,170887572,2018-05-08 14:45:36,">>170887508 >t. not an argument",,Joseph Stalin III,23d19e0c1ce6f248404b5293c24dddbd104d96a6.png,RCsFrZiIJAgBOML/63aZhg==,,,1525790736 170846771,170887615,2018-05-08 14:45:58,">>170887341 >It wuz not real communism Dengism is inline with NAZBOL.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525790758 170846771,170887869,2018-05-08 14:48:08,>>170886560,,Joseph Stalin III,29de2fa25daf6bb27d5f6031386b319c6aa81d6a.jpg,QQk9m1AguyS3VihabqFgTQ==,,,1525790888 170846771,170887955,2018-05-08 14:48:47,">>170887572 >Grabs information from unreliable websites. >i its nut an urgument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525790927 170846771,170888060,2018-05-08 14:49:35,">>170887869 You unironically proved his point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525790975 170846771,170888112,2018-05-08 14:49:56,">>170887615 >Said something else Kek.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525790996 170846771,170888147,2018-05-08 14:50:11,">>170887955 I don't accept you arguing in favour of its invalidity if your only argument is putting everything into triple brackets",,Joseph Stalin III,,,,,1525791011 170846771,170888268,2018-05-08 14:51:10,">>170888060 which is that lefty memes are better reflections and attacks on the right, and that right wing memes are outdated normie ""le impact font"" shit?",,Joseph Stalin III,,,,,1525791070 170846771,170888729,2018-05-08 14:54:29,">>170887353 i doubt these statistics are true , even if they are i have an explanation it is not because of how system was good , it is because how many flaws it had , you couldnt find a lot of shit in markets , so people get into dirty stuff , one of them was black market , you couldnt find a single person in USSR that wasnt into it , besides cops , whom were easy to bribe ( you could just hand him a peace of meat and he would fuck off ) or party members . about 60 percent of shit stored in my grandparents house was bought from black market . also food that we got in markets was indeed cheap but poor quality , also icecreams tasted like piss",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525791269 170846771,170889288,2018-05-08 14:58:17,"i like how all lolbertarians ran like pussies when natsoc and nazbol joined in molotov-ribentrop 2.0 pact when ?",,Anonymous,1520953251029.jpg,/mKfywgBYtTrkE2u/UVIwQ==,LT,,1525791497 170846771,170889727,2018-05-08 15:01:31,">>170886826 Remind me again why I should give a fuck about what a foreign Jew-controlled empire of lies and transgenderism thinks about which China is real.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525791691 170846771,170890083,2018-05-08 15:03:52,">>170887353 mmmguy I live in Slovakia Anyone who even privately thinks that communism was better is shunned from polite society, literal notsees are more popular than commies",,Anonymous,crosses your path.jpg,oZGVtcReUp3uGN/xqVnKJA==,,,1525791832 170846771,170890118,2018-05-08 15:04:02,">>170871940 Ayn Rand was a faggot. Mises and Rothbard were good (selfhating) Jews.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525791842 170846771,170890548,2018-05-08 15:07:13,">>170888268 >better reflections and attacks on the right We don't ""reflect"" or ""argue"", guy. We pack you into football stadiums and execute you en masse, because unlike us, communists are absolutely worthless for anything other than target practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg",,Anonymous,how to argue with communists.gif,Cogq75hv3P1Hj/hOR+ksPQ==,,,1525792033 170846771,170890794,2018-05-08 15:09:08,">>170889288 Natsocs never joined in, are you blind? The only group autistic enough to shitpost in this general (apart from us) are the Nazbols, who, unlike the Nazis, don't require foreign intervention in order for their system to fall on its ass.",,Anonymous,typical SIEGE reader final.png,qjhT3SaCmqWeMV7xJ0HheA==,,,1525792148 170846771,170890869,2018-05-08 15:09:41,">>170846771 As a liberterian I agree with the right to have an abortion because the baby is in your property without your consent As a conservative I believe that the murder of babies is immoral as their lives are sacred like all human beings",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1525792181 170846771,170893083,2018-05-08 15:27:45,">>170890869 The baby never chose to enter your property. >imprison someone without their consent >wtf trespasser, Stop violating my nap!",,Anonymous,,,,,1525793265 170846771,170893375,2018-05-08 15:30:17,">>170893083 I did consider that, but didn't mention it for the sake of simplifying I am against abortions in all cases except to save the mother's life",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1525793417 170846771,170893635,2018-05-08 15:31:37,">>170893083 I believe that was Hoppe's pro-abortion argument btw",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1525793497 170846771,170895035,2018-05-08 15:43:35,">>170888147 >Yours is invalid... >Uses ((sputnik)) Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525794215 170846771,170895217,2018-05-08 15:45:03,">>170889288 National socialism was the only system that worked and can compete with capitalism that is why the whole world declared war on them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525794303 170846771,170895255,2018-05-08 15:45:23,">>170893083 If its a nigger go right ahead.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525794323 170846771,170896009,2018-05-08 15:52:05,">>170846771 >Last thread was hijacked by abortionfags and nazbols All the Kremlin General threads need to be shut down (Trump General, Syrian General, etc)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525794725 170846771,170897481,2018-05-08 16:05:05,I'm gonna go ahead and post some aesthetics,,Anonymous,20180505_142544.jpg,9S92sBw1ZQuxn0j8uQTqRQ==,US,,1525795505 170846771,170897686,2018-05-08 16:06:49,,,Anonymous,M e n g e r w a v e.jpg,Szzn2wwkfAsHx6Vh7YQJ1g==,US,,1525795609 170846771,170897889,2018-05-08 16:08:19,,,Anonymous,20180407_234944.png,CCWUIFlOrVC/WA4TYpp2Pg==,US,,1525795699 170846771,170898126,2018-05-08 16:10:21,,,Anonymous,glitch_art_20180206174010.jpg,uYTeJu9EFBwfzrBlxtUo5g==,US,,1525795821 170846771,170898888,2018-05-08 16:17:11,">>170846771 Ill give you a little fun. If abortion decreases violence because less unwanted kids. Then if black women are having kids for government money that arent truly wanted youd expect to see high rates of violence in the black community.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525796231 170846771,170899400,2018-05-08 16:21:27,">>170896009 syria general won a prize as the best general on the board , you aint touching that , fuck /ptg/ though",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525796487 170846771,170899464,2018-05-08 16:21:56,">>170898126 >>170897481 the nose knows",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1525796516 170846771,170899990,2018-05-08 16:26:05,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_02-26-10.33.49.png,7SnS6Gvj4wze0H8CDuAHew==,US,,1525796765 170846771,170900318,2018-05-08 16:28:41,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-17-11.08.21.jpg,kzprMCNQp4iZyNx18yDalw==,US,,1525796921 170846771,170900578,2018-05-08 16:30:33,">>170889288 TODAY WE SEIZE THIS THREAD, TOMORROW THE PLANET",,Anonymous,,,,,1525797033 170846771,170900888,2018-05-08 16:33:10,">>170898888 Just because blacks do it, it does not make it a right thing. Even if racist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525797190 170846771,170901575,2018-05-08 16:38:47,>>170885912,,Anonymous,1520411782618.jpg,/0suaAXR5oo2ZxQscW4B1g==,,,1525797527 170846771,170902101,2018-05-08 16:43:04,"I think if the society passes a law that restricts the liberty of the individual, that society takes on a responsibility. If you pass a law forcing a woman to have a child she would otherwise abort, you take responsibility for her welfare and the welfare of the child until the child is 18. I think if the pro-life side accepted these kind of ideas, they would actually achieve their goal of 0 abortions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525797784 170846771,170902502,2018-05-08 16:46:31,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-07-12.46.23.png,VMPXSTzhnoXQWlxSIkgdlA==,US,,1525797991 170846771,170902735,2018-05-08 16:48:19,,,Anonymous,1503090990358.jpg,JbEH1tEuru4Molp9JnuRqw==,US,,1525798099 170846771,170902992,2018-05-08 16:50:30,,,Anonymous,prabudroid_1503087121568.gif,iUakj9WwjeBHNNwP1uNvtw==,US,,1525798230 170846771,170903547,2018-05-08 16:55:22,What do you guys think of Tom Woods?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525798522 170846771,170903705,2018-05-08 16:56:37,">>170846771 Maybe we need to stop trying to make defective animals act proper. I'm talking about the ones that want to kill their own offspring.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525798597 170846771,170903855,2018-05-08 16:57:50,">>170846771 Can we forcibly abort all the non-white trash!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525798670 170846771,170903899,2018-05-08 16:58:14,">>170854041 Maybe you could visit an abortion clinic and strike up a deal with one of the people in line.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525798694 170846771,170903974,2018-05-08 16:59:00,">>170903547 Tom Woods is a gift to mankind.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525798740 170846771,170904160,2018-05-08 17:00:39,">>170890794 lol",,Anonymous,,,,,1525798839 170846771,170904840,2018-05-08 17:06:29,">>170869457 Totally agree. The baby is still the mothers, regardless of the father. And since the 'state' has essentially replaced the father anyway, and since woman seem to be embracing single parenting, a woman should be compelled to give birth to the child and then had the child offered up for adoption. I do feel the state should protect the woman's earning potential though.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525799189 170846771,170904920,2018-05-08 17:07:11,,,Anonymous,Hoppe pink.png,7KP9g2eItcwMMU7o5MgY3Q==,US,,1525799231 170846771,170905116,2018-05-08 17:08:53,">>170902101 Women giving birth is not a 'liberty' issue - it is a duty issue. They have enjoyed the gift of life because generations before them understood this. It is not a 'hobby' or an 'interest' - it is the very reason humanity is here today.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525799333 170846771,170906422,2018-05-08 17:19:46,,,Anonymous,glitchr_1504535969000.jpg,uRDNRYfpXAnIsqkFwYlaeQ==,US,,1525799986 170846771,170907617,2018-05-08 17:30:16,">>170902101 >get pregnant “I don’t want the baby” >recieve paycheck >... >get pregnant again >”Oops! I don’t want the baby.” ad infinitum",,Anonymous,,,,,1525800616 170846771,170908087,2018-05-08 17:34:23,">>170846771 tbf it violates the NAP just as much as making a kid",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1525800863 170846771,170910479,2018-05-08 17:54:56,">>170846771 The state of Libertarians.. Y'all got overrun by stoned retards at some point, damn shame. > Whos Al Leppo? F",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525802096 170846771,170910830,2018-05-08 17:57:56,">>170910479 The ""Libertarian"" Party hasn't been libertarian for a long time",,Anonymous,gary-johnson-forced-to-bake-trumps-inauguration-cake-12800035.png,z7ntjFL1y38dvv5u1KbHsw==,US,,1525802276 170846771,170911540,2018-05-08 18:04:29,"TWO QUESTIONS What led to the crisis of 1929 in America? How does Keynesianism work and why is it wrong?",,Anonymous,1525624780080.jpg,YZapvB1U3YDOo0EahGT/zg==,ES,,1525802669 170846771,170911959,2018-05-08 18:08:20,">>170858203 >Abortion should be murder >Murder may be allowed when I want, not always banned",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1525802900 170846771,170912196,2018-05-08 18:10:25,">>170846771 >Is it a violation of non-aggression? Is not to the mother, since the baby is there because of her.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1525803025 170846771,170912230,2018-05-08 18:10:42,">>170854041 >I want to adopt only perfect white babies because I am a racist",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1525803042 171949203,171949203,2018-05-17 13:33:17,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,lrg.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,,,1526563997 173240546,173240546,2018-05-28 13:08:32,"This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote self-ownership, voluntary association, self-governance, individual liberty and the natural order. This means primarily anarcho-capitalists, minarchists, national capitalists and some monarchists. Others are welcome to debate us. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT >Discord & Book Club: fnmp99D RECOMMENDED READING: >The Law (Frederic Bastiat) - mises.org/library/law >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) - mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf FURTHER READING: >Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books THREAD TUNES: >OC Hoppewave http://picosong.com/wcsRY/ >Hoppewave playlist - youtube.com/watch?v=bch6Jm9VB9A&list=PLTf87zQ00lsRqjgERV0cEb0rotlAQnbNU >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM",/LRG/ Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,anticomactionawoo.jpg,v+Cfnricf3WN4SYO5GuOaQ==,US,,1527512912 173240546,173240636,2018-05-28 13:09:38,,,Anonymous,1527526685482.jpg,dSf9bjIvsrHmeLJEMvD4bQ==,US,,1527512978 176896651,176896651,2018-06-29 11:46:01,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads Physically remove the communist faggots who threaten our white bourgeois libertarian social order!",Libertarian Right General - /lrg/,Anonymous,0A97FD5C-F09B-4A51-9A1B-D58158D75583.gif,yp/eYgVZHdUhRie38pxFww==,US,,1530272761 176896651,176896765,2018-06-29 11:47:08,">>176896651 Are Jeffersonians allow?",,Anonymous,Jeffersonian Principles.png,m46UCp8HEMMm0g665ia+WA==,,,1530272828 176896651,176896834,2018-06-29 11:47:49,"I haven’t seen one of these in a while, they were all over the place last year! I’ve gone a couple rings down pic related and I find it fascinating.",,Anonymous,F0E53BB0-6038-46E2-A051-217442FA5B01.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,US,,1530272869 176896651,176896954,2018-06-29 11:49:17,">>176896765 My favorite :) I completely agree that yeoman farmers should be the backbone of any enlightened republic, along with a healthy coexistence with the stinky city. Rivers and canals are better for transport and the existence of an agricultural economy too imo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530272957 176896651,176896978,2018-06-29 11:49:32,">>176896651 This is now NAZBOL thread. Discuss all things related to national bolshevism.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1530272972 176896651,176897058,2018-06-29 11:50:20,"Literal meme for college freshman and sophomore Grow the fuck up faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530273020 176896651,176897136,2018-06-29 11:51:21,">>176896978 You couldn’t even put on your meme flag, you literal mong Ancap aesthetics are objectively superior.",,Anonymous,62607962-220C-4291-86DF-10EAF9E7CB1A.jpg,wh38ho+6WkYxBHmldXqf9Q==,US,,1530273081 176896651,176897152,2018-06-29 11:51:31,WOop WOop. THREAD BUMP,,Anonymous,,,US,,1530273091 176896651,176897228,2018-06-29 11:52:33,">>176897058 May be a meme in certain cases, but a damned good one to start with to build your idea of governance and law. Politics is never pure, ideology is only an asymptote.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530273153 176896651,176897236,2018-06-29 11:52:37,">>176897136 A true NAZBOL proudly displays his country’s colors.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1530273157 176896651,176897345,2018-06-29 11:53:55,">>176896954 Based",,Anonymous,Agragrian republic.jpg,ZWqWfwSpkiIFnm4WtPPU4A==,,,1530273235 176896651,176897406,2018-06-29 11:54:28,Bump,,Anonymous,Jeff's Gang.jpg,46ngpvfv4MuGFhcz2Ydb5g==,,,1530273268 176896651,176897649,2018-06-29 11:57:02,">>176897345 Most of the output farms are owned by corporations, not individual citizens. Stop jerking yourself off to fanfics. Take back America",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530273422 176896651,176897744,2018-06-29 11:58:02,">>176897345 > living in North Alabama > stacked hay yesterday with stepdad and his friends > sweat like a dog at the top of the loft, my arms got scratched up > drank ice cold natural lights after we were done > took showers and we headed off to a car show > ate delicious bbq afterwards > taking horse handling lessons tomorrow, maybe I talk more with the qt stable hand God bless the South, and god bless agrarianism! All I need is a few machine guns and ammo buried in the pasture, and it’s perfect.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530273482 176896651,176897902,2018-06-29 11:59:43,">>176897649 True unfortunately, which is why I think the best solution is land value taxation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFQgOy-5Tng&t=178s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkXEM7fgGDc",,Anonymous,,,,,1530273583 176896651,176898021,2018-06-29 12:00:50,">>176897902 Original appropriation helps too, especially for the preservation and proper stewardship of timberland.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530273650 176896651,176898238,2018-06-29 12:03:17,">>176898021 Agree",,Anonymous,Tyrants blood.jpg,Xa0kk3Fjy0rziLYMv+BRIg==,,,1530273797 176896651,176898782,2018-06-29 12:09:37,">>176898238 While the Land Ordinance of 1785 certainly helped westward expansion, its township system placed little emphasis on commonwealth spaces and sustainable appropriation of woodland. This law in huge part is why Indiana, Illinois, and Ohio have almost no forests anymore. It’s an interesting problem.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530274177 176896651,176899048,2018-06-29 12:12:35,"Be me Seattle > wake up 4 hours before alarm clock goes off > Grill some burgers > Check on my dont tread on me flag > check to see if any liberals messed with my vehicles > lay back down in bed Feels good man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530274355 176896651,176899356,2018-06-29 12:16:18,">>176899048 Splendid. How is it being a righty up there? We need more /lrg/ greentext stories bros. May Ancapistan and the ethnostate coexist to build a better tomorrow.",,Anonymous,F554D140-8C2C-4466-AC9C-AF5FFD585192.gif,Nbvoa9qP1B9MDJj3ITz/3Q==,US,,1530274578 176896651,176899844,2018-06-29 12:21:34,">>176896765 >>176898782 https://youtu.be/wplUBFVsbtw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530274894 176936385,176936385,2018-06-29 17:59:38,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads Physically remove the communist faggots who threaten our white bourgeois libertarian social order!",Libertarian Right General - /lrg/,Anonymous,9AA56E49-16AE-4F9E-9FE6-C99CE64A34B5.gif,yp/eYgVZHdUhRie38pxFww==,US,,1530295178 176936385,176936641,2018-06-29 18:01:50,Any actual /biz/ owners in these threads? SaaSfag here,,Anonymous,,,US,,1530295310 176936385,176937075,2018-06-29 18:05:41,">>176936641 https://youtu.be/jf3LNJ6z6gU https://youtu.be/xJFr8Q1Tx10",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530295541 176936385,176937689,2018-06-29 18:11:25,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1530295885 176936385,176938048,2018-06-29 18:14:48,"Love these threads, hope they become more of a common occurrence around here.",,Anonymous,upload_2017-9-14_21-5-22.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1530296088 176936385,176938747,2018-06-29 18:21:36,">>176936385 What would an AnCap society look like?",,Anonymous,environment_small.jpg,n+81LOyVe5ZZ9d0YcnZ2Ng==,US,,1530296496 176936385,176938775,2018-06-29 18:21:55,">>176938048 They’ve been mia for months on pol. I love talking theory with these guys, and the reading is fascinating.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530296515 176936385,176938902,2018-06-29 18:23:08,>>176938747,,Anonymous,cyberpunksetting.png,CRyIqbp/uEm1nnx4+L5aKg==,US,,1530296588 176936385,176938916,2018-06-29 18:23:14,"Governments always seem to tend towards curtailing liberties. They will feel the need to justify their existence after any event that causes some public outcry, and pump out dogshit legislation. Which at least over here is just ""ban x"" when x is declared a problem. Lots of things seem needlessly overregulated. There's few politicians who seem to voice their concerns around government overreach and overreaction to public hysteria over less than important issues.",,Anonymous,1515049910578.jpg,nRe3uq9sOcqKL52jiEMEIw==,GB,,1530296594 176936385,176938951,2018-06-29 18:23:32,>>176938902,,Anonymous,AlteredCarbon-FINAL.jpg,JH4MFbhBoKwJq0/agex+pw==,US,,1530296612 176936385,176939107,2018-06-29 18:24:42,">>176938747 It depends on the values of the people. The Amish are actually a good example of how different covenants in an ancap society could have different ways of life despite what their neighbors do. So cities would be big and bustling like your pic, but rural areas would most likely stay similar to how they are because the people who grow up there are accustomed to that lifestyle.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530296682 176936385,176939113,2018-06-29 18:24:44,>>176938951,,Anonymous,1528783727148.jpg,zIEh+WnZxYdrYtEVGRwzZA==,US,,1530296684 176936385,176939161,2018-06-29 18:25:13,">>176938747 It would collapse from it's own degeneracy from Jewish propoganda, but it's economy would be fantastic while it lasted and the cost of living would be dirt cheap. It would be fantastic in a non-jewish world, but for now, NatSoc is the way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530296713 176936385,176939500,2018-06-29 18:28:15,">>176939161 But because of private property rights the people who resist Jewish subversion would be allowed to keep the Jews out and inherit what's left when the degenerates die off.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530296895 176936385,176939583,2018-06-29 18:28:53,">>176939107 People on 8/liberty/ always imagine massive cities with heavy business presence where the government has been completely melted away due to people making the switch to crypto from fiat, overall, most people imagine the state to be replaced with an order of market and free entrepreneurship systems. Suppose that would be the 'non-violent way' of forming a radical libertarian-right society. To make a peaceful economic switch.",,Anonymous,retrofuturism7.jpg,MIKsxegAJo5vCLNEyoilrg==,US,,1530296933 176936385,176939754,2018-06-29 18:30:21,">>176936385 Oh this thread again! Redid the Jeffersonian pic btw.",,Anonymous,Jeffersonian Principles.jpg,hJteoS4agN+wEB60bACZLg==,,,1530297021 176936385,176939865,2018-06-29 18:31:33,">>176939500 Could you elaborate what you mean by >private property rights the people who resist Jewish subversion would be allowed to keep the Jews out They would be allowed to keep Jews off of their own piece of land, but wouldn't be able to keep them out of the country as a whole since they would be able to buy up their own personal property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530297093 176936385,176939871,2018-06-29 18:31:36,">>176939754 Y E O M A N E O M A N",,Anonymous,7512C0D0-B53C-4953-B8B7-A9942FB20AEC.jpg,C5oyIEHPYKHRh8qlD7+Jug==,US,,1530297096 176936385,176939919,2018-06-29 18:32:04,">>176939754 >>176939871 F A R M E R A R M E R",,Anonymous,DBD684EB-CB09-47A7-834A-9714AAF31D6A.jpg,xgJw/6d6qn9S+wMWczkYAw==,US,,1530297124 176936385,176940057,2018-06-29 18:33:08,">>176939871 >>176939919 B A S E D A S E D",,Anonymous,Fuck the banks.jpg,TDqeLfQq7RIuvKzl0coX4Q==,,,1530297188 176936385,176940161,2018-06-29 18:34:03,">>176936385 TAXATION IS THEFT",,Anonymous,defend England.jpg,h0AanGycgYR6nMHyxsHv0A==,GB,,1530297243 176936385,176940301,2018-06-29 18:35:19,,,Anonymous,j64rVt1.jpg,OOLXpmDpoZjpvTjAGGl4dQ==,US,,1530297319 176936385,176940402,2018-06-29 18:36:12,Are classical liberals allowed?,,Anonymous,,,NO,,1530297372 176936385,176940517,2018-06-29 18:37:17,Removal of NAP while we purge our country of scum. Sure we are gonna break a few eggs along the way but we will be better and stronger for it.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1530297437 176936385,176940695,2018-06-29 18:39:06,">>176940402 Welcome!",,Anonymous,XoUn67auZMiMUhEgibAxTQB9YefTLra_AQ_St6Hzqds.jpg,jS0+6ZY1P79ADuXM0mSb8g==,US,,1530297546 176936385,176940772,2018-06-29 18:40:03,">>176939865 Sure. You're absolutely right about the people only being able to keep (((them))) off their own private property, not the country as a whole. But we're talking about ancap society here, where there isn't really one ""country"" as we think of it today, it'd be more like a bunch of different city states. Say you and some buddies don't like Jews, you love Hitler, and want to have a strong authoritarian leader in your community that promotes the good of the people (your typical natsoc). That could be its own city state, and it would only apply its rules to its citizens. And if degenerates want their own city state, they got it. But the city states cannot infringe on those that are not within their jurisdiction. So the Jews cause the degenerates to do what they do best and destroy society, while the other city states are left to live as they are free from Jewish subversion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530297603 176936385,176940774,2018-06-29 18:40:04,">>176939161 Ancapistan and the Ethnostate must reside together as a continuum. > ethnostate purges degeneracy and undesirable mutts > transports them to ancapistan to avoid genocide > trade goes through ancapistan between ethnostates, not bothered because muh nap and agreements with brokers using polycentric law > degenerates able to self purge into ancapistan > criminals are physically removed in ancapistan > communities formed in ancapistan free to join any ethnostate which embraces them > ??? > mutual profit Heil hoppe",,Anonymous,808CB8BC-40D3-442D-9D6F-9298A0C22628.png,0uAwpyE3NnR0d6/7uCG3TQ==,US,,1530297604 176936385,176940863,2018-06-29 18:41:03,">>176940774 Oh yeah, and big enough mutual communities formed in ancapistan can become ethnostates",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530297663 176936385,176940950,2018-06-29 18:42:01,">>176940517 You don't even have to remove the NAP to get rid of commies.",,Anonymous,1527884236028.jpg,V6vkcpZrrKGwLKEd/C5i2Q==,,,1530297721 176936385,176941036,2018-06-29 18:42:51,">>176936385 Nice meme. DEMAND Justice for the communist attack on our capital 6-14-17. WE have to find a way to get justice. Death to the uniparty traitors that enable them too- I say we ride them around the rails like the sons of liberty did.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530297771 176936385,176941152,2018-06-29 18:44:00,">>176941036 Nice elephant there bub",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530297840 176936385,176941261,2018-06-29 18:45:03,reminder that had you all had your way the world would have been fucking communist decades ago,,PanzerJäger,,,US,,1530297903 176936385,176941443,2018-06-29 18:46:56,">>176936385 /pol/ is a National Transhumanist board",,Anonymous,nationaltranshumanism.png,S7DSC3gVJq9IMPfdtGQkUg==,US,,1530298016 176936385,176941642,2018-06-29 18:49:03,">>176941261 >libertarians get their way >we hate commies >we all think everyone should have guns >somehow the world would be commie",,Anonymous,1518264817117.jpg,i0T8t/+FXL2NEhBQrVCODg==,,,1530298143 176936385,176941835,2018-06-29 18:50:57,">>176940772 How is that different from how the world works as a whole? People find/purchase land, start a nation with their ideals, etc.. why would any current nation adopt an ideology that basically negates the unity of nationhood?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530298257 176936385,176942126,2018-06-29 18:53:37,">>176941642 >muh guerrilla campaign vs unopposed communist forces intent on extermination of capitalist partisans yeah I'm sure it would go so well only guerrilla campaigns that have ever been successful have been ones bound by unnecessary ROE or limited strategic goals total war against capitalist class would have no bounds and no limitations fuck off",,PanzerJäger,,,US,,1530298417 176936385,176942292,2018-06-29 18:55:06,">>176936385 What would everyone consider the closest real life example of this ideology?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530298506 176936385,176942532,2018-06-29 18:57:27,">>176939107 The amish are actually against the modern ways that bring harm to other people and the world, which is why they build self sufficient agricultural communities within areas like NY (I actually live near one and see them all the time, they sometimes sell stuff like donuts in this little carriage they drive around), I imagine that if ancap was theoretically realized, they would close themselves off from the rest of world entirely, something that some amish communities already do, not because of an irrational hatred of technology, but because they would want nothing to do with such a materialistic and morally corrupt world that ancap world would be.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530298647 176936385,176942654,2018-06-29 18:58:46,">>176936385 whats up bros",,Anonymous,900px-Gadsden_flag.svg.png,vd0haMptqb5cnEE5fS9V5w==,,,1530298726 176936385,176942741,2018-06-29 18:59:30,I would only support libertarianism if it was in a white ethnostate,,Anonymous,,,US,,1530298770 176936385,176942811,2018-06-29 19:00:02,">>176941835 >How is that different from how the world works as a whole? That's the point, it's been shown to work. If we let people form their own societies with their own values, and they're allowed to trade with other nations as they please it works pretty well for everyone. It's forcing people to get along with people they don't and never will get along with that causes chaos. Having giant nations (like EU giant) restricts people from voting with their feet because they limit the rule sets and cultures that people can choose to live in. But as for why a nation would choose this, they most likely wouldn't. At least the government wouldn't, because they rely on the people to be dependent on the state. And the more the government provides for people the more they entrench their citizens in dependency and allow their control to continue. So if the people break free and realize they don't need the government to give them everything they will either rely on self governance (anarchy) or at most make a small state that through competition on the free market will provide a better, cheaper variety of goods and services.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530298802 176936385,176942976,2018-06-29 19:01:35,reminder ancaps are spooked and disenfranchised from the self actualization the ego pursues due to the spook they hold dear that other individuals have rights and the self aught to be restrained in respect of others,,PanzerJäger,pepe120.jpg,U6RBQkJcNosr4JKUPNf5sg==,US,,1530298895 176936385,176943064,2018-06-29 19:02:23,">>176942126 You're seeming to forget that every citizen has a right to own guns, and an invested interest to protect their own private property. Compare that to today when you have people who hate their host nation and couldn't care less if the enemy of their nation takes over.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530298943 176936385,176943225,2018-06-29 19:04:17,>>176938747,,Anonymous,equilibrium.jpg,4TmZCWinSSZKRLT7T9wsnw==,,,1530299057 176936385,176943293,2018-06-29 19:04:55,">>176942741 You could easily form a white ethnostate in a libertarian (ancap) society. And because there isn't a corrupt government controlling that ethnostate and telling them to take in (((diversity))) it'd stay white. Any attempt to take away their sovereignty would be met with resistance.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530299095 176936385,176943394,2018-06-29 19:05:48,">>176943293 >>176940774",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530299148 176936385,176943563,2018-06-29 19:07:25,">>176943293 What would stop one city-state from conquering other city-states?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530299245 176936385,176943635,2018-06-29 19:08:12,">>176936385 I miss these threads, thanks bro",,Anonymous,1527925468441.jpg,KYyD8+FxnWD8SaeoDFDiMQ==,,,1530299292 176936385,176943728,2018-06-29 19:09:03,">>176943293 I don't think hiring educated healthy and full grown whites who demand rights would be cheap foe business, rather for business they would seek to hire uneducated niggers who woulden't be able to demand anything outside of basic living conditions, why do you think companies out source? Companies absolutely would outsource in ancap world.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530299343 176936385,176943819,2018-06-29 19:09:54,">>176943563 Nothing really, NAP is a meme that nobody would follow.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530299394 176936385,176943999,2018-06-29 19:11:35,">>176943635 NAP, NOProblem",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530299495 176936385,176944108,2018-06-29 19:12:36,"Libertarianism doesn't work because you can't have laissez faire capitalism running each system. Reason is that constant competition between companies produces a race to the bottom, the worst, cheapest quality product produced en masse. Everything is cheap, plastic and nasty.",,Anonymous,lgn98744o6x01.jpg,RuI7lYfK32aJgxekq/SToQ==,GB,,1530299556 176936385,176944351,2018-06-29 19:14:54,"Much better to have a controlled economy, besides this is what Trump is actually trying to do with all these trade tarriffs to protect the American economy. Pure socialism. Which is the one, true, good Christian way of doing things, to be your brother's keeper, to be, social.",,Anonymous,AFNR8W9Ks5hpQNaUXvKCEKOb8EfYw1uoad5dbPZ7uec.jpg,37kkY490m71oFYY2v5HWJA==,GB,,1530299694 176936385,176944369,2018-06-29 19:15:06,">>176944108 Still amazes me that people want a return lazziez faire conditions even though wages were the poorest, as well as education, welfare, and saftey, almost comparable to slavery.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530299706 176936385,176945979,2018-06-29 19:27:48,">>176944351 I thought Christian socialism was a meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1530300468 176936385,176946443,2018-06-29 19:32:09,">>176943728 They'd rather hire crime-prone niggers and subhumans, which would drive up their insurance costs? Doubtful.",,Anonymous,1527869861414.png,HVQ1SLvIfWarjKleiHc8bg==,,,1530300729 176936385,176946591,2018-06-29 19:33:29,">>176943819 Except it's expensive to violate the NAP, war is always more costly than diplomacy which is also why private courts would be profitable and the argument of ""businesses would fight each other with mcnukes"" is a strawman.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530300809 176936385,176946801,2018-06-29 19:35:24,">>176946443 Ask plastic manufacturers, they use dumb as shit chinks and niggers yet still make boatloads of money.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530300924 176936385,176946914,2018-06-29 19:36:30,">>176946591 Yhea, because it isn't like war was the thing that dragged most of the world out of the great depression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1530300990 178598447,178598447,2018-07-13 12:31:57,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Propertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",Libertarian Right General - /lrg/ - K selected edition,Anonymous,1488455466717.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1531485117 178598447,178598810,2018-07-13 12:34:44,">>178598447 Are Jeffersonians right libertarians?",,Anonymous,Jeffersonian Principles.jpg,5/dtQ97J5oKF1T/us99Ibw==,US,,1531485284 178598447,178599293,2018-07-13 12:38:48,">>178598447 Without collective action you will never achieve anything >>178598810 Of course not, Jefferson believed in all farmers being free and owning their own land a policy encouraged by the state while under right libertarianism there is nothing to stop a collective effort by landowners to invade and turn all the free, independent farmers into serfs. Jefferson believed in some state action to ensure the freedom and independence of agrarian landowners who would not be serfs. The governments job would be to ensure that no aristocracy ever cropped up. Libertarians would say ""lol just let the giant landowners gobble up everything because muh free market""",,Anonymous,anarcho_capitalism_is_feudalism_by_valendale-d7j937d.jpg,r7S/fc3iHUzuotVWvbywJw==,US,,1531485528 178598447,178599586,2018-07-13 12:41:20,">>178599293 >while under right libertarianism there is nothing to stop a collective effort by landowners to invade and turn all the free, independent farmers into serfs. Say that to the wall of lead you'll get when you walk onto someone's property like that to steal their shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531485680 178598447,178599944,2018-07-13 12:44:23,,,Anonymous,Agragrian republic.jpg,ZWqWfwSpkiIFnm4WtPPU4A==,US,,1531485863 178598447,178600776,2018-07-13 12:51:14,At least make a proper looking site if you want to fight for a good cause. I'm pro libertarian but that design disgusted me.,,Anonymous,1iJW5EL.jpg,GVf7TBedZicvDhe7GOk9Lw==,NL,,1531486274 178598447,178601244,2018-07-13 12:55:24,">>178600776 >Anarchism >Right wing Ok.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531486524 178598447,178601695,2018-07-13 12:59:12,Bump,,Anonymous,english plz.jpg,pXKTszBga8rfzaCbn+r9XQ==,US,,1531486752 178598447,178601990,2018-07-13 13:01:41,">>178598447 >muh government is oppressing muh rights >let a company oppress me instead",,Anonymous,1505626854888.jpg,3eudGVGj0j2Pz7j3nQkfgg==,DK,,1531486901 178598447,178602244,2018-07-13 13:04:01,"How do you enforce conservatism in a libertarian society ? I would think with social stigma and individual discrimination. But the problem is it can lead to mob rule and witch hunts (the opposite of a libertarian mindset).",,Anonymous,,,,,1531487041 178598447,178602560,2018-07-13 13:06:56,"What are libertarians stance on: 1. Open borders 2. White nationalism 3. Removing the jews 4. Lgbt rights 5. Abortion 6. Drug use",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531487216 178598447,178603044,2018-07-13 13:11:11,">>178601244 Anarchism is right-wing. At least the propertarian kind is.",,Anonymous,1524715442265.png,ZAxuRUVclh14GQbAvF9TOA==,US,,1531487471 178598447,178603095,2018-07-13 13:11:35,">>178601990 >implying companies big enough to oppress would exist without government gibs >>178602244 Stigma, individual discrimination are sure a thing, I just think a society without government, specially without government playing such a big role as today, would gravitate to conservativism simply because marxism is not useful to both generate wealth or keep society cohesion, this is why marxistis put sucha big emphasis on social marxism, they cannot exist without government propelling them. They would either fade away or be social outcasts that go nowhere",,Anonymous,,,,,1531487495 178598447,178604258,2018-07-13 13:21:45,">>178599586 >e wall of lead you'll get when you walk onto someone's property like that to steal their shit. And yet all the banks confiscated the farm lands of millions of independent farmers during the 1930s depression which turned them into penniless workers with no land. The same thing happened every few years during the panics in the 1800s.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531488105 178598447,178604262,2018-07-13 13:21:47,">>178602560 >Open Borders Borders should be private, essentially everyone owns their own land. As for now days, its insane to open the borders without the fundamental rights of the people inside to defend thenselfs against possible invaders and the bad they would bring, so right to bear arms, no government gibbs and right to discrimination in bussiness and real state is a must. >White Nationalism You can have Nations without governments, the Germanic tribes on the ancient times were a proof of that. I think since heritage tends to low the transaction cost between people that share it, ultimately most people living near each other would have the same heritage. >Removing the jews I know too little about the topic to have an opinion, still need to read more >LGBT rights Every human is entitled to the same fundamental rights, no more, no less. How you deal with how treats you is not my bussines. >Abortion Abortion is wrong in all situations, a person that was put in place without its concent shall not be killed. >Drug use Not in favor of it, thou the criminalization of is a violation of fundamental rights and outsource morality to the government instead of society",,Anonymous,18447448_833288373490054_6702284106265986771_n.jpg,YUqimQgJ5ZYS/3OWfKXecA==,,,1531488107 178598447,178604688,2018-07-13 13:25:17,">>178604262 >>178602560 You can remove Jews who seek to take away your rights because the NAP doesn't apply to them. This would include communists and overall most leftists jews",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531488317 178598447,178605244,2018-07-13 13:30:04,">>178604688 This is my problem with anarcho-capitalist. Though being a dirty fantasy of every right-winger, there would be many hurdles to jump through to achieve anarcho-capitalism. Like, killing niggers and kikes, nuking them into the stone age, hyper-securing our borders, then living the ideal, free world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531488604 178598447,178605528,2018-07-13 13:32:45,">>178605244 Or, we can peacefully secede into micro-ethnostates and not allow niggers into our towns in the first place. If they enter our town we can just lynch em for trespassing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531488765 178598447,178605583,2018-07-13 13:33:19,">>178605244 >>178604688 Yeah I know what you mean that it can seem pretty hard, but the establishment is destroying itself because it lost its foundation so it might not be as far as it seems, just a big crisis away I think. Thou Hoppe is very clear about physically removing left wingers and degenerate covenants",,Anonymous,,,,,1531488799 178598447,178605709,2018-07-13 13:34:28,">>178605528 No, I want them dead, they're weak, weakness must be cleansed from the world. >>178605583 Right, the NAP should only apply to people, communists and the weak aren't people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531488868 178598447,178605942,2018-07-13 13:36:36,Is there any libertarian viewership on youtube? The videos only get like 1k views,,Anonymous,,,US,,1531488996 178598447,178606130,2018-07-13 13:38:09,">>178605942 Stefan Molyneux is the biggest libertarian channel I can think of",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531489089 178598447,178606292,2018-07-13 13:39:41,">>178605942 Funny enough, Im from Brazil and libertarians here constantly make 100k views per video, I think its the place which it gets the most views atm. Too bad they are not in english because its good stuff",,Anonymous,,,,,1531489181 178598447,178606429,2018-07-13 13:40:55,">>178606130 Another good one is Roaming Millennial.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531489255 178598447,178606698,2018-07-13 13:43:23,">>178605942 Early PJW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFpOCy12-U",,Anonymous,,,,,1531489403 178598447,178606856,2018-07-13 13:44:57,">>>178598447 The discord link from the pastebin is invalid, got an up to date one?",,Anonymous,,,,,1531489497 178598447,178607637,2018-07-13 13:52:10,">>178598447 You're not a libertarian. Go fuck yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531489930 178598447,178607928,2018-07-13 13:54:59,">>178598447 I can’t believe that many people still subscribe to this ideology when it’s so easy to curbstomp. Let us start from the fact that property requires the existence of the state. What is property? A contract between a person and the rest of society that only said person can access said item. Therefore for property to exist one needs it to be enforced, and as this enforcer determines all property relations according to its will, it is therefore a de facto state. If one says that every individual should enforce their own property, it no longer is property but rather a scenario of might makes right since you own what you can take and hold on to.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531490099 178598447,178607959,2018-07-13 13:55:18,">>178607637 This. Jeffersonians are the true liberty lovers.",,Bot 1984,Jeff needs YOU.png,jlarl3u6nsQC3oCc0XEvvg==,US,,1531490118 178598447,178608339,2018-07-13 13:58:13,">>178607928 >when Im born I have to sign a contract with society to have the exclusive use of my body that society didnt gave me in the first place Ok then",,Anonymous,,,,,1531490293 178598447,178608714,2018-07-13 14:01:36,">>178608339 What is the argument in that statement? Without a state enforcing property rights you could be born to a slave society and no matter how much you scream if a stronger individual tries to do something to you you have nothing you can do.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531490496 178598447,178609233,2018-07-13 14:06:09,">>178608714 Property is having the exclusive right of use for an item, there are plenty of ways to enforce that not only via state. Kawloon Walled City didnt had any government but had bussiness and all that. You can enforce stuff without needing a state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531490769 178598447,178609589,2018-07-13 14:09:01,">>178609233 If you have a central organisation which acts as an arbiter of property you have a state. Kowloon city likely had internal hierarchies, probably organised as clans.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531490941 178598447,178610110,2018-07-13 14:13:58,">>178609589 Except thats not what government is thou, Kawloon just proofs there is a way without government.Sure you can call it whatever you want but it doesnt even have to be centralized, it can be a coalition of decentralized private entities for example, that ultimately dont have a monopoly because no one has the monopoly of the judicial system. Hoppe explains it with more details in his books",,Anonymous,,,,,1531491238 178598447,178610479,2018-07-13 14:17:34,">>178610110 I know the argument about private courts, but how are they not a state at a local level? If courts are the arbiters of property then a court can just confiscate people’s property and become absolute rulers of an area.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531491454 178598447,178611136,2018-07-13 14:23:52,Have a bump,,Anonymous,book list.jpg,7HU8QWOp/+CHcPyJHni3Jw==,,,1531491832 178598447,178611285,2018-07-13 14:25:19,">>178610479 Well if they started to just confiscate stuff from people, they would be a bad company, and if they are a bad company and just confiscate stuff for then selfs people would stop paying them, keep there would be a lot of those and they would be much more local so no one could get that big, would not be bot the judges and enforcers obviously. Its also not a state because everyone is free to create their own instead of a monopoly being put in place, which ultimately is the biggest problem on how efficient the state is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531491919 178598447,178611551,2018-07-13 14:27:59,">>178607928 Protectors need not be centralized, nor mandatory",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531492079 178598447,178611882,2018-07-13 14:30:51,">>178611285 They don’t have to care about how many people use their services, after all they can just confiscate stuff to fund themselves. The only way to stop them is for another more powerfull entity to use force, which is how we get back to the might makes right scenario as there is no violence monopoly aka. state to resolve conflicts peacefully. Without a monopoly on violence one does not have property.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531492251 178598447,178613387,2018-07-13 14:44:23,">>178611882 No, because in this case there would be more incentive to protect and not to confiscate. If a gang decides to steal peoples things from left to right it creates demand for protection, which will be inevitably more profitable, since the revenue will come from creating wealth on the form of security and not on destroying wealth.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531493063 178598447,178613805,2018-07-13 14:48:24,">>178613387 Regardless of could that work or not that means that there is no property nor property rights, as you own only what you can take and hold on to.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531493304 178598447,178614383,2018-07-13 14:53:57,">>178613805 You would have the property rights backed up by for example the private institutions that are in place to do so, which will guarantee a stable society as there is demand to it. But who ultimately the person who cares more about your own safety is you. The price of liberty is the eternal watch.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531493637 178598447,178614760,2018-07-13 14:57:35,">>178614383 But those institutions are really just might makes right. In case someone lacks protection, well then their property is no longer theirs.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531493855 178598447,178615032,2018-07-13 15:00:16,">>178602244 >But the problem is it can lead to mob rule and witch hunts (the opposite of a libertarian mindset) That would most likely turn into ""that small town you avoid"" rather than grow if it gets out of hand.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531494016 178598447,178615216,2018-07-13 15:02:10,">>178614760 Well, no one is obligated to work for your protection for free, if you are too poor as not to be able to higher one, which would be hard because the state has a lot more laws that are harder to enforce and even it does that half decent. If somehow you end up in a bad situation and have no more ways to pay the bills thou you can always make a loan to get back on your feet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531494130 178598447,178615391,2018-07-13 15:03:50,">>178605942 Truediltom gets multiple thousands per video. Learn Liberty has plenty of videos with 10s of thousands.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531494230 178598447,178615792,2018-07-13 15:07:41,">>178615216 You don’t get the fundamental critique. Only a violence monopoly of the state can ensure that your property rights are enforced, or that they even exist for that matter since determining what’s who’s property without an arbiter is a matter of opinion.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531494461 178598447,178615802,2018-07-13 15:07:45,">>178598447 I love K-selected edition. Now leave me alone.",,Anonymous,RARE_rothbard-hoppe.jpg,gbX7AkP2qFSvqM29R9VzuQ==,,,1531494465 178598447,178615881,2018-07-13 15:08:31,">>178599293 the king isn't wrong",,Anonymous,,,,,1531494511 178598447,178616012,2018-07-13 15:09:53,">>178602244 you don't really enforce it. you just exclude the degenerates from your life. ""this business doesn't serve homos and drug addicts"". enough people do this and it will create incentives to not be a degenerate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531494593 178598447,178616777,2018-07-13 15:18:11,">>178615391 Trudiltom has seen libertarianism for the basedboy liberalism that it truly is and abandoned it for traditionalist Sip Nationalism. How dare you invoke his name in this low T autism thread.",,Anonymous,truthiccdong.png,msOEsh4c5J9mAyyv1QSrlA==,US,,1531495091 178598447,178616945,2018-07-13 15:19:51,Feels like it's been too long since we last had one of these threads.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1531495191 178598447,178617176,2018-07-13 15:22:05,">>178603044 this newfangled triangle is great",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531495325 178598447,178617329,2018-07-13 15:23:28,The only passable part in libertarianism is Hoppean covenants. And only as a last resort (you're already an absolute minority when you get the push and incentive to segregate),,Anonymous,36968109_1765136920242338_8180887923978141696_n.jpg,h0v9Q7PP4cQ9/8a22C1OmA==,IT,,1531495408 178598447,178617634,2018-07-13 15:26:26,">>178615792 Theorists have already figured out other ways to do this stuff. You just have yet to look up their work and read it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531495586 178598447,178617716,2018-07-13 15:27:14,">>178617634 Thank you for this amazing argument.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531495634 178598447,178617728,2018-07-13 15:27:28,">>178617329 as opposed to what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531495648 178598447,178617821,2018-07-13 15:28:22,">>178617716 I know it wasn't an argument but I'm tired of typing out long arguments to people who don't want to read them anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531495702 178598447,178617885,2018-07-13 15:28:56,">>178598447 Does anyone have the Discord link? Also, is this you, FF?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531495736 178598447,178617913,2018-07-13 15:29:16,">>178617821 Well surely you can give me a skeleton structure of the argument and direct me to the right sources?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531495756 178598447,178618074,2018-07-13 15:30:46,">>178617728 A mostly homogeneous community/state with enough resources and any other system than liberalism/socialism/communism",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1531495846 178598447,178618491,2018-07-13 15:34:49,">>178617329 This image makes me very very uncomfortable. I stare at it and I can start to hear the blood in my ears. Please don't post this ever again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531496089 178598447,178619027,2018-07-13 15:40:42,">>178617329 Where do you stick the dick?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531496442 178598447,178619858,2018-07-13 15:49:26,">>178615792 I understand the critique and I already said why that is not the case, you dont need a leviathan state telling who owns what in order for property rights to be a thing since disputes can be solved by other means. By your logic you could also argue that in a state there is no property rights cause the state ultimatelly just owns everything.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531496966 178598447,178620175,2018-07-13 15:52:48,">>178619858 But those other means always boil down to something where there are no property rights. It is true that under a state the state can remove all property rights, but it can also give property rights. The argument is that property needs a state to exist, not that state needs property to exist.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531497168 178598447,178620590,2018-07-13 15:57:05,">>178620175 And the argument is flawed because i demonstrated how thats not the case. You just said ""but if they are not there to protect you then there is no property"" the same exact reason could be applied to the state. Ultimately if all isntitutions in place to protect your property fall you have to protect yourself, and the property that you yourself protect still your property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531497425 178598447,178620901,2018-07-13 16:00:09,">>178620590 The distinction is that if you have a state which has a violence monopoly, then property is true on only one way. If there is no violence monopoly then property is a matter of opinion. With state of course it’s still an opinion, but there is only one opinion meaning that there is no risk of disagreeing opinions.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531497609 178598447,178621623,2018-07-13 16:06:45,How would protecting the natural environment be accomplished in a libertarian society?,,Anonymous,pentti linkola.jpg,47AHgzEGP6XEoZA136+Xww==,CA,,1531498005 178598447,178622397,2018-07-13 16:14:47,">>178620901 My point is that even without a power monopoly, property still exists, because even thou ""its a matter of opinion"" can be applied in both cases there are means in which you can secure it without the state existing, because people would still not disagree with the laws that they voluntarely decide to follow for a plathera of reasons such as isntitutional retaliation,financial inviability or the simple risk that the action itself entitles, those three reasons will effectively enforce property rights in much more efficient and moral way then the state does.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531498487 178598447,178622648,2018-07-13 16:17:27,">>178621623 If there is a demand, there will be a product. Essentially if everyone owns property and you do property damage to someone's forest (like a fire starting on your property and spreading out) you would have to pay from your own pocket which is much more of an incentive then using tax payer money.",,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,uFBBoyRoKAixpHoyZowRHQ==,,,1531498647 178598447,178622853,2018-07-13 16:19:28,">>178622648 Ok, but how would the environment be protected from corporations wishing to exploit it for profit?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1531498768 178598447,178623789,2018-07-13 16:28:37,">>178622853 No corporation would get too big as today without government gibbs. But you would have private regulatory agencies that would check if their product is made with the enviroment taking in considaration. Private regulatory agencies would be better then public because they would compete within thenselfs too see who really have the best and most affordable methods to determinate, and also make as clear as possible how they do it exactly if corrupt you could just not buy from the brands with their approval. And producers would display the approval of such agencies on their packages, simmilar as nowdays, in order for consumers to buy. In the end those things make their products better and more desirable for costumers.",,Anonymous,captalism ho!.jpg,slhLYCrb7wC8PVW/GnhHlw==,,,1531499317 178598447,178624584,2018-07-13 16:36:57,">>178622397 You’re making the assumption that everybody will agree with your property without a central organ, that is impossible, a simple land dispute will show the weakness in the system. As we defined in the beginning property is an exclusive right to use something, in order for that right to be granted a violence monopoly has to exist in the area where it happens.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531499817 178598447,178625483,2018-07-13 16:45:36,">>178624584 That are cases where it demonstrably wasnt in the past, (Kawloon and Medieval Iceland) monopoly is not necessary. Im not assuming that everyone would agree, just necessary that the instituitions put in place by supply and demand would make it unproftable, and you will have the exclusive rights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kPyrq6SEL0",,Anonymous,,,,,1531500336 178598447,178625576,2018-07-13 16:46:33,">>178598447 Nice to see this thread again",,Anonymous,,,,,1531500393 178598447,178625646,2018-07-13 16:47:21,">>178625483 But in those cases and with market solutions, you will have a violence monopoly which de facto is a state. If you have multiple property arbiters then it becomes a question of might makes right which violates the ”the exclusive right to proprty in a single area” definition.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531500441 178598447,178625893,2018-07-13 16:49:43,">>178625646 Not at all, because conflicting agencies are not a better product then agencies that find fair solution. You could have multiple people with different agencies in a single area, hence the video demonstrates how.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531500583 178598447,178625992,2018-07-13 16:50:40,">>178599293 >Without collective action you will never achieve anything Sure - but it has to be agreed upon and voluntary. Libertarians arent all going it alone, they will team up like at the Bundy ranch.",,Anonymous,lead_720_405.jpg,ORdXdv6Bc9NwzNePSjgBQA==,GB,,1531500640 178598447,178626231,2018-07-13 16:52:55,">>178625893 What do you do when the agencies disagree? Surely the agency which can best secure its clients resources will become the most popular, which will lead to a violence monopoly and therefore a state.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531500775 178598447,178626236,2018-07-13 16:52:57,">>178599293 Also, >American uses monarchy example to ridicule private property and defend communism, which is pointed out by a bong. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew lad",,Anonymous,government-logic.jpg,wXNGy3wvLQkzS4zC+f9XcQ==,GB,,1531500777 178598447,178626263,2018-07-13 16:53:07,">>178625992 God I sure wish libertarians would do something instead of arguing who is libertarian or not",,Anonymous,,,,,1531500787 178598447,178626448,2018-07-13 16:55:01,">>178598447 How does the lobertardian get to a hoppean covenant without the ethnostate? How do you outvote 300 million ghouls chanting ""kill the boar kill the farmer""?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1531500901 178598447,178626520,2018-07-13 16:55:43,">>178626263 theres too many statists and frankly brainwashed normalfags to take any action at this point. Libertarians will just look like nutjobs to a majority of people. We literally need divine intervention at this point",,Anonymous,ride the tiger.jpg,XD/hatpY0QLe4htsB9ioSQ==,GB,,1531500943 178598447,178626526,2018-07-13 16:55:49,">>178626231 Watch the video cause I need to go to sleep. And that is not how the market works, you can have plenty of agencies competing on the market in the same region, just as you can have more then one security agency in one region nowdays.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531500949 178598447,178626588,2018-07-13 16:56:21,">>178626448 >vote Youre doing it wrong",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1531500981 178598447,178626625,2018-07-13 16:56:40,">>178599293 This. In a nation of ""le based individual"" , it's the tribe that rules.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1531501000 178598447,178626803,2018-07-13 16:58:26,">>178626520 >Divine intervention We could look up to prepare to the inevitable collapse of the world economy that will be followed by even more massive immigration and civil wars, making something akin to the fall of Rome and prepare to do something when the institutions are on the ground and anti state sentiment on the rise. Thats the best option honestly",,Anonymous,,,,,1531501106 178598447,178627747,2018-07-13 17:07:23,">>178626803 buy gold and silver. Dont keep money at the banks. This is about as good as you can do right now",,Anonymous,1531400179228.jpg,MFkvZrO+GPtA29/JRDmLTA==,GB,,1531501643 178598447,178627869,2018-07-13 17:08:30,Watch these if you havent already,,Anonymous,1530457269023.jpg,G+b/p14PnZJOCYKocpUh5g==,GB,,1531501710 178598447,178627965,2018-07-13 17:09:30,"Watch these if you havent already https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4i4AdGa-A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AC6RSau7r8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU",,Anonymous,jesus-cleansing-temple.jpg,B9p26ZFD8MS8o8u90iQ45g==,GB,,1531501770 178598447,178628064,2018-07-13 17:10:23,"As a person who likes Libertarian ideas I think that the general population is simply too stupid for it to work. How do you deal with all the low IQ zombies, what ever race they may be, who will see you ass evil for simply making smart choices and being rich. I for example never thought that any person of even average intelligence could believe in Communism in the 21st century. Its failures have continuously happened throughout the last half century jet today we have a huge number of people educated in universities who believe in the most retarded shit possible regardless how it violates everything observed in reality and history. The zombies will always outnumber you many times over so unless you have the technological superiority to keep them in line regardless of their overwhelming numerical superiority then Libertarianism simply wont work at he current technological levels.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1531501823 178598447,178628150,2018-07-13 17:11:05,">>178627965 M'kay - that first one should have been the money masters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2i6uftJhB8",,Anonymous,1530457269023.jpg,G+b/p14PnZJOCYKocpUh5g==,GB,,1531501865 178598447,178628283,2018-07-13 17:12:12,">>178628064 this is a real concern.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1531501932 178598447,178628410,2018-07-13 17:13:16,">>178626526 Multiple security organisations only work because they are operating under the guidance of the violence monopoly and the official police.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531501996 178598447,178628457,2018-07-13 17:13:44,">>178628064 If you just assume that people cant chose for thenselfs as long as their choice does not infringe anyone fundamental rights. You might as well just not even care about humans",,Anonymous,,,,,1531502024 178598447,178628727,2018-07-13 17:16:02,">>178628410 there are also multiple of those that work in the same manner with no need for central authority",,Anonymous,,,,,1531502162 178598447,178629407,2018-07-13 17:22:08,">>178628727 They likely operate in areas with conflict, unless you can give me examples.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1531502528 178598447,178629534,2018-07-13 17:23:23,">>178598447 bomp eet",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1531502603 178598447,178629870,2018-07-13 17:26:28,">>178628457 But this is a fantasy since everybody ultimately always infringes on somebody else in one way or another by their mere existence. Also wtf does it matter if I care for humans or not. Humanity is not some homogeneous group. I care for me and mine and the ones that have some common sense left and believe in at least the same broad ideals as me.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1531502788 178598447,178629934,2018-07-13 17:27:09,">>178598447 The Libertarian Right even existed in the 1920s in Germany with their own militia, they also allied with the National Socialists, Nationalists and Conservatives against Communism and it's militias like the ""Rote Front"" and even against Antifa from 1924 onwards. Use google translate: >https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrwolf_(Wehrverband) They got their name from a popular german book written by Hermann Löns which is probably one of the earliest libertarian-minded nationalist books (worth a read): >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Wehrwolf >pic related is what they looked like including the Wehrwolf flag in 1924",,Anonymous,SCN_0003.jpg,RcHedXf9QRuyANeQpoOhfQ==,DE,,1531502829 178598447,178631206,2018-07-13 17:39:52,">>178601244 t.American t.neo-con t.Idon'treadbooks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1531503592 178598447,178634022,2018-07-13 18:09:32,">>178626448 You don't vote, that requires a state. Read What Must Be Done by Hoppe to understand how ancap will happen - its a pretty short read compared to other works.",,Anonymous,,,,,1531505372 178598447,178634854,2018-07-13 18:18:52,">>178601244 see pic:>>178626520",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1531505932 178598447,178635016,2018-07-13 18:20:32,">>178626520 True",,The Jeffersonian,,,US,,1531506032 180090632,180090632,2018-07-25 21:18:20,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Propertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Communist Removal Squads",Libertarian Right General - /lrg/ - IMPEACH SESSIONSedition,Anonymous,ancap womp.png,Q2/wmskHHG9jPLnf6+QwoQ==,,,1532553500 180090632,180090756,2018-07-25 21:20:02,"Successful socialist countries: EU, Canada, Australia, almost all of the West. Successful Libertarian countries:",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532553602 180090632,180091206,2018-07-25 21:25:41,">>180090756 >socialist >EU, Canada, Australia, almost all of the west Christ, read Marx you fucking liberal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532553941 180090632,180093916,2018-07-25 21:59:00,">>180091206 You should both be gassed",,Anonymous,,,,,1532555940 180090632,180094134,2018-07-25 22:01:37,">>180090632 >ImPEAche SEssiONs!11!!1 >30000 sealed indictments Chill tf out dude, I love you libertarian bros but yall need to realize liberty takes some time when it isnt a revolutionary war occurring.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532556097 180090632,180094322,2018-07-25 22:03:47,">>180093916 >We both understand Socialist bullshit is exemplified pretty much within every government on the planet to varying degrees, inherently in this modern world, and this game is one of how close to Liberty we can get.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532556227 180090632,180094455,2018-07-25 22:05:10,Libertarian right is an oxymoron.,,Anonymous,1531950002463.jpg,10zZQaTMPqs8wJLtiSH65w==,,,1532556310 180090632,180094526,2018-07-25 22:05:59,">>180090632 Haven't seen one of these in a while.",,Anonymous,1518029564608.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,US,,1532556359 180090632,180094902,2018-07-25 22:10:08,">>180094322 Correlation does not equal causation, by promoting failure over success, socialism drags societies down from what they could be. West is still the best because of whites and Christianity and we can see society declining as this changes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532556608 180090632,180095089,2018-07-25 22:12:19,">>180094455 Wrong, it is actually redundant to say libertarian right if everyone understood the nature of libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,,,1532556739 180090632,180096930,2018-07-25 22:30:54,">>180090632 Actual Communist from China here. Communism is the only true way to be free. Capitalism is nothing more then glorified greed and selfishness. Its one big lie you're governments made so they can profit from you. they are using you like cattle",,Anonymous,,,,,1532557854 180090632,180097060,2018-07-25 22:32:21,">>180094322 >t. dipshit who thinks socialism means the government paying for stuff",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532557941 180090632,180097185,2018-07-25 22:33:48,">>180095089 Right wing is not synonymous with small government, that's an artifact of relatively recent american politics. >>180096930 >Actual Communist from China here. I'm fucking sure you are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532558028 180090632,180097634,2018-07-25 22:38:20,">>180090756 >>180090756 no no no no >despite their taxes and national healthcare they still have higher property rights index than burgerland.",,Anonymous,privateproperrightindex.png,jAJwoiGLeT0SUm00S/bpFQ==,US,,1532558300 180090632,180097751,2018-07-25 22:39:42,>>180090632,,Anonymous,d09.jpg,9CMubnlZ6iUvlXAlTkpjWw==,JP,,1532558382 180090632,180098274,2018-07-25 22:44:55,"I've noticed libertarians and ancaps on /pol/ constantly try to force /pol/ memes off as their own. Like OP's image, womp womp is a dying meme from a month ago yet it bears relevance to the ancap flag how exactly? Then the board of peace shit which was funny in 2016 but the only posters I see repeating it are lolbergs. Stop forcing old memes, especially the cringe-tier helicopter shit, none of you know how to fly a helicopter let alone own one and Pinochet was a literal fascist dictator not some le based free market CEO man. Basically you lot are absolutely fucking cringeworthy and it's clear to everyone that you're desperate to fit in but you're autistic and irrelevant.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532558695 180090632,180098461,2018-07-25 22:47:09,>>180098274,,Anonymous,1528351458786.jpg,qXpqoWw7m5hz7JijJ7vBCg==,,,1532558829 180090632,180099085,2018-07-25 22:53:56,">>180097185 I really am a Communist from China you fat American pig",,Anonymous,,,,,1532559236 180090632,180100190,2018-07-25 23:07:01,">>180098274 Pinochet wasn't a fascist dictador, he was a jewish shill.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1532560021 180090632,180102265,2018-07-25 23:34:58,">>180098274 ancaps were here first",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532561698 180090632,180103736,2018-07-25 23:53:18,,,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,pNNPzihcpOticHf5ebdzsQ==,US,,1532562798 180090632,180104296,2018-07-26 00:00:11,">>180090632 Lib right is shit tier. Jeffersonian Democracy and Georgism is god tier cuz both care for the yeoman and southern farmers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532563211 180090632,180104329,2018-07-26 00:00:39,">>180104296 >>180090632 Forgot pic",,Anonymous,Jefferson and George.jpg,v4+U9pZGEWAwke3PfDUNhg==,US,,1532563239 180090632,180104488,2018-07-26 00:02:26,">>180090756 >>180091206 You will never end poverty if you attack the wrong person who isn't causing it.",,Anonymous,The true enemy.jpg,6Q2TKDGN0fD/JlZTFc9o4g==,US,,1532563346 180282366,180282366,2018-07-27 13:42:10,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Propertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Communist Removal Squads Trump cuts taxes, what happens? 4 PERCENT GDP GROWTH",Libertarian Right General - /lrg/ - 4 PERCENT EDITION,Anonymous,1484584482845.png,c8bWYMjmPfqNlOTmkmTAgw==,,,1532698930 180282366,180282672,2018-07-27 13:46:01,,,Anonymous,96232-004-6CB2006A.jpg,0KizzNFqtIWyHEcI14o7XQ==,GB,,1532699161 180282366,180282778,2018-07-27 13:47:11,Fucking zulus,,Anonymous,Hoppe-gtfo.jpg,FEsQ3hkqmJBvPz+Igm+VBw==,GB,,1532699231 180282366,180282899,2018-07-27 13:48:42,,,Anonymous,aXGVP46.jpg,rG7E6vgWykrMn1bJp8JPMA==,GB,,1532699322 180282366,180282925,2018-07-27 13:49:01,">>180282672 nice snake mate what breed?",,Anonymous,ancap deadly poison frog.jpg,rTpnt6EGFCb6WU7obKvOwA==,,,1532699341 180282366,180283053,2018-07-27 13:50:40,"Race doesn’t matter guys!!11!1!1!! There’s only ONE kind of socialism1!1!1!1!1!",,Anonymous,D8B6C2F4-2659-4FD3-B491-1D5E1083926A.png,5qMxFNCBWPWo+wUrByZRvg==,,,1532699440 180282366,180283090,2018-07-27 13:51:10,,,Anonymous,C0AF8342-58D0-4450-A032-2EC29EEF9F95.jpg,tdZS8BGB6u+g92C1Q5KicQ==,,,1532699470 180282366,180283172,2018-07-27 13:51:59,,,Anonymous,1E72E916-285D-46C6-A3C6-B68C9C2EF143.jpg,Ue3BKAVC/jK6xcccEzgogg==,,,1532699519 180282366,180283176,2018-07-27 13:52:00,">>180283053 >race doesnt matter nice strawman commie",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699520 180282366,180283210,2018-07-27 13:52:24,">>180283176 Do you know what communism is?",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699544 180282366,180283272,2018-07-27 13:53:11,">>180283210 statists are all commies to me",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699591 180282366,180283275,2018-07-27 13:53:13,,,Anonymous,E1EC9FC6-1188-47F4-97CD-BB74C6A62A7E.jpg,Fc+hHM4AbtIt7AeGjzNDEg==,,,1532699593 180282366,180283308,2018-07-27 13:53:35,">>180283272 Explain to me what communism is then",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699615 180282366,180283330,2018-07-27 13:53:51,">>180283308 statism",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699631 180282366,180283397,2018-07-27 13:54:38,,,Anonymous,0EBD3470-2191-4983-AE27-698B1A377D7D.jpg,QZ/3hL98mv2rzF3t+sW6Xw==,,,1532699678 180282366,180283435,2018-07-27 13:55:02,">>180283330 No. What are the actual policies of communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699702 180282366,180283455,2018-07-27 13:55:19,">>180283435 taxation",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699719 180282366,180283514,2018-07-27 13:56:06,">>180283455 You are quite literally retarded. I’m gonna enjoy derailing this faggot ass thread. Go worship more jew dick.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699766 180282366,180283542,2018-07-27 13:56:23,">>180283435 Having a state",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699783 180282366,180283561,2018-07-27 13:56:34,,,Anonymous,B505640B-2D98-43AF-9E04-C69AECA954DD.jpg,WUEzE8UsRKIMMdGMvbL6XA==,,,1532699794 180282366,180283654,2018-07-27 13:57:32,">>180283514 please explain commie, it seems you have no argument but to call me a kike",,Anonymous,1470615592072.jpg,zbiOyVqKPUIkwB46Vwxh8Q==,,,1532699852 180282366,180283705,2018-07-27 13:58:09,">>180283542 If you’re against the state, and not actually some larping faggot on 4chan, you’d be in the streets overthrowing the government. But here you are. Still clinging to libertarianism because your boomer parents never taught you the importance of race and spirituality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699889 180282366,180283780,2018-07-27 13:59:13,">>180283705 oh and you were shooting kikes last night right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699953 180282366,180283807,2018-07-27 13:59:35,">>180283654 >the only type of socialism is giving people money Lol. It’s called national socialism because it’s based off of instilling the worldview of sacrifice for the greater good. You understand the lower and middle class are also apart of that sacrifice right? It’s not monetary, either, dimwit. Most national socialism has nothing to do with money.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699975 180282366,180283831,2018-07-27 13:59:52,">>180283780 :^)",,Anonymous,,,,,1532699992 180282366,180283949,2018-07-27 14:01:07,">>180283831 fuck off commie larper",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700067 180282366,180284008,2018-07-27 14:01:47,,,Anonymous,5FA92EFC-5A40-499C-BF3F-53587198BBBD.jpg,95dYFWIJWfqnamWYOepbaw==,,,1532700107 180282366,180284101,2018-07-27 14:02:48,">>180284008 no one goes to your natsoc general anymore so you have to jam your foot in the door here hahahahhaha",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700168 180282366,180284127,2018-07-27 14:03:11,"Oh no am I derailing all 3 of the libertarians on this board???? I’m so sorry How does it feel to know everyone else on this board is recognizing the importance of NS?",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700191 180282366,180284234,2018-07-27 14:04:37,">>180284127 sure they are muhamad",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700277 180282366,180284236,2018-07-27 14:04:36,"Baby boomer : The thread Maybe Rush Limbaugh should take a break from pol with these gay threads",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700276 180282366,180284273,2018-07-27 14:05:04,">>180284236 >all that asshurt",,Anonymous,1467399434338.png,7uZVLVAoT1CnIWp59UXlmQ==,,,1532700304 180282366,180284285,2018-07-27 14:05:09,">>180283705 >the only way to overthrow the state is immediate violence What a pathetic idiot",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700309 180282366,180284289,2018-07-27 14:05:11,">>180284234 Oh I almost forgot all 3 of you libertarians is the beacon for the rest of pol",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700311 180282366,180284370,2018-07-27 14:05:56,">>180284285 Lol maybe the kikes will let you win office and kick all the non-whites out (Hint : they won’t)",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700356 180282366,180284425,2018-07-27 14:06:36,">>180284289 >if you put on the larper memeflag you're a certified nazi!",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700396 180282366,180284441,2018-07-27 14:06:48,">Libertarianism Have you even read Hobbes?",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,Pb+d6MkCOTcaFw2d+0AAyg==,US,,1532700408 180282366,180284448,2018-07-27 14:06:53,,,Anonymous,CB933499-A09D-4A7E-B1B6-38FF74FD16AE.jpg,CTQUvua1fN0niIBWa80N9Q==,,,1532700413 180282366,180284496,2018-07-27 14:07:25,,,Anonymous,003B3765-9ACF-49CD-B43F-51D71BB746C6.jpg,bOjAyFYniUByIMSfyTWU5g==,,,1532700445 180282366,180284502,2018-07-27 14:07:30,">>180284370 >lol >(Hint : they won’t) back to plebbit fag",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700450 180282366,180284533,2018-07-27 14:07:48,,,Anonymous,9B7E7A3D-9268-44AB-AB9E-7E3CF68F6673.jpg,fqaQH2XmZumc42S01WLaiQ==,,,1532700468 180282366,180284572,2018-07-27 14:08:14,">>180284441 no m8",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700494 180282366,180284616,2018-07-27 14:08:52,">>180284502 >The biggest threat to (((communism))) inhistory is also >*record scratch* >Communist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700532 180282366,180284778,2018-07-27 14:10:44,,,Anonymous,725E0875-6BC3-40C8-AA63-0CC3CE6813A1.jpg,kvsR5luIoW5LGPEJ7ybFNw==,,,1532700644 180282366,180284798,2018-07-27 14:10:59,,,Anonymous,Red Flags of Socialism.jpg,Q5aS22bOQjrZPCIyuuR17w==,,,1532700659 180282366,180284816,2018-07-27 14:11:15,">>180282925 Mangrove snakes are /oursnek/",,Anonymous,1502579105574.jpg,vNPbYnDp8s2qkWqmd3ArjQ==,GB,,1532700675 180282366,180284824,2018-07-27 14:11:22,,,Anonymous,2CF51430-FCB3-4EEB-A52E-E5963C59F1ED.jpg,oORfD0GUv14rYMB936kRzA==,,,1532700682 180282366,180284898,2018-07-27 14:12:08,">>180284798 It’s like I’m looking at my moms Facebook Page",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700728 180282366,180284942,2018-07-27 14:12:45,">>180284816 dont tread on him",,Anonymous,17240376.jpg,IghqgjDF9TEgbtQbvdz8aQ==,,,1532700765 180282366,180284971,2018-07-27 14:13:05,,,Anonymous,CB1649B9-F91D-44E1-BE7F-7C3634F18536.jpg,jSAey/n9GTn915RXnijfDA==,,,1532700785 180282366,180284997,2018-07-27 14:13:17,Threadly reminder.,,Anonymous,1486107510992.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,GB,,1532700797 180282366,180285079,2018-07-27 14:14:16,">Trump cuts taxes, what happens? 4 PERCENT GDP GROWTH But he increased spending, which is deferring taxation or implicit taxation. It's pretty sad when so-called ""libertarians"" are apologizing for Trump's big government interventionist policies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700856 180282366,180285087,2018-07-27 14:14:20,">>180284370 As I said, you’re an idiot, you have the mind of a child, go back to stormfront",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700860 180282366,180285123,2018-07-27 14:14:42,,,Anonymous,42CDC10D-8675-4BE2-A122-951E47B42B89.png,YanBDfKmYa9lJX2lYBaMAg==,,,1532700882 180282366,180285137,2018-07-27 14:14:47,>>180284971,,Anonymous,1488056840752.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,GB,,1532700887 180282366,180285176,2018-07-27 14:15:11,">>180284997 Based, why are nazis so pathetic? Theres a few with some great arguments but 99% are ""da joos"" retards",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700911 180282366,180285215,2018-07-27 14:15:38,">>180284997 >post a bunch of jews Sounds about right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700938 180282366,180285234,2018-07-27 14:15:53,>>180285123,,Anonymous,1488751476585.jpg,iCwFn2VLpIwPMP4W/nDGrw==,GB,,1532700953 180282366,180285311,2018-07-27 14:16:38,">>180284997 Through Rothbard's entire life, the overriding theme in his work was opposition to war and imperialism. Do you see these themes of opposition to war and empire appear in these /lrg/ threads? Maybe you people are mis-representing Rothbard as much as anybody else.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532700998 180282366,180285317,2018-07-27 14:16:42,">>180285176 Kek >>180285215",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532701002 180282366,180285341,2018-07-27 14:16:59,"Maybe if we keep allowing big business jews to put us in wars for israel due to non-interventionist gov policies, maybe we’ll get more oil gibs",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701019 180282366,180285385,2018-07-27 14:17:26,">>180285317 So jews *aren’t* a bad thing to you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701046 180282366,180285400,2018-07-27 14:17:36,">>180285079 So far he's been fairly isolationist on foreign policy, if anything he needs to stop barking at syria and russia and start being alot more aggressive against china and north korea But yeah the much bigger problem is the economy, the fucking fed he should just shut them down he can't ride the growth for much longer",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701056 180282366,180285504,2018-07-27 14:18:31,">>180285317 trollololol >>180285234 baste",,Anonymous,hoppecopter.jpg,40ounfzSJ1yJA8e6yKxqjQ==,,,1532701111 180282366,180285531,2018-07-27 14:18:50,">>180282366 I AM NOT ALONE ON /POL? DEMAND justice for the communist attack IN OUR CAPITAL against ELECTED officials on FLAG DAY, Wednesday June 14th 2017 ! ALL fucking tyrannists must die.",,Anonymous,5aec80dd32f69.jpg,S8xX7qZlyUu6priiwaQOyA==,US,,1532701130 180282366,180285688,2018-07-27 14:20:30,">>180285400 >Trump inherited those looser rules and claimed to relax them further, urging his generals to intensify the onslaught on Isis and al-Qaida. According to statistics compiled by the Airwars watchdog group, there were nearly 50% more coalition air strikes in Iraq and Syria in 2017 compared with the previous year. Civilian deaths rose by 215%. The coalition, almost all US planes, dropped 20,000 bombs on Raqqa. By the end of the five-month campaign, 80% of the city was declared uninhabitable by the UN, and 1,800 civilians are thought to have been killed. Airwars estimates 1,400 of those deaths were caused by coalition air and artillery bombardment. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/23/us-air-wars-trump Trump doesn't sound so isolationist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701230 180282366,180285704,2018-07-27 14:20:43,">>180285531 What happened mate?",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701243 180282366,180285771,2018-07-27 14:21:24,">>180285311 You see anyone promoting war or imperialism here? Rw libertarianism isnt about wars of conquest or liberation. The only violence we preach is against commies and others who would restrict freedom (and part of that is physical removal memes which hoppe never meant to imply killing)",,Anonymous,rothbardhuman.jpg,RGetp9fMgQK1sDndguegtg==,GB,,1532701284 180282366,180285847,2018-07-27 14:22:08,">>180285400 >/lrg/ claims to be Rothbardian >says shit like Trump should ""start being alot more aggressive against china and north korea""",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701328 180282366,180285857,2018-07-27 14:22:16,">>180285688 Yeah but he's basically helped Russia destroy ISIS and stopped the CIA and mossad from funding them, think how many cunts would have got beheaded by the goat fuckers if they hadn't",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701336 180282366,180285907,2018-07-27 14:22:50,">>180285847 China's literally attacking us right now, you fucking stupid?",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701370 180282366,180286094,2018-07-27 14:24:32,">>180285771 >Rw libertarianism isnt about wars of conquest or liberation. Then you haven't read Rothbard. Even Ron Paul ran on campaign on themes of anti-imperialism and opposition to the Federal Reserve. Have you forgotten that it was the red-baiting anti-Communists in the conservative movement that drove out Rothbard from the Right? And that Rothbard thereafter associated himself with the New Left in opposition to American foreign policy?",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701472 180282366,180286135,2018-07-27 14:25:08,I found a new logo for you guys,,Anonymous,D387CA8A-0FD8-4EE3-A6BE-688BC1004CF5.jpg,CBF/c5LOD52v5hfXR5hdlQ==,,,1532701508 180282366,180286206,2018-07-27 14:25:48,">>180285385 I judge a man by his actions and beliefs. What do you think of pic related?",,Anonymous,23b83559.jpg,1HWlQuBj0x7XWYRcBzwESg==,GB,,1532701548 180282366,180286268,2018-07-27 14:26:25,">>180286135 >nazi has pics of nigger porn checks out",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701585 180282366,180286465,2018-07-27 14:28:28,">>180286206 What you don’t understand is that NS is based off of collective effort to act as collective solutions. What is 1 good jew compared to a million subversive ones? Literally based black man argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701708 180282366,180286626,2018-07-27 14:30:07,">>180286094 Im not sure what you mean. You seem to be implying we are in favour of imperialism, despite what rothbard believed. I dont believe we have said anything to give that impression, or that we support the west current policy of interventionist wars etc.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532701807 180282366,180286811,2018-07-27 14:31:58,">>180286135 Like a bit of blacked do you, bootlicker? Anyway at least its heterosexual...",,Anonymous,d49809d0146c7dbdcfbc5e25d90c63a7.jpg,E/QjVeRv93E8fUJ19bkw3w==,GB,,1532701918 180282366,180286815,2018-07-27 14:31:59,">>180286626 You have a retard in this very thread arguing for more aggression against China and North Korea. You have a post in this thread calling Trump an isolationist when he has in fact increased the number of air strikes in Iraq and Syria.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701919 180282366,180286927,2018-07-27 14:33:08,">>180286626 Opposition to war and imperialism was one of the major themes in Rothbard's writings. This was also an overriding them in Ron Paul's campaign. Yet you hardly see this theme in these threads.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532701988 180282366,180287008,2018-07-27 14:33:56,">>180286815 You have no capability of nuance",,Anonymous,,,,,1532702036 180282366,180287077,2018-07-27 14:34:42,">>180286815 It’s almost like libertarians are retarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1532702082 180282366,180287101,2018-07-27 14:34:59,">>180286811 Wrong reply, dumbass",,Anonymous,,,,,1532702099 180282366,180287423,2018-07-27 14:38:29,">>180286465 Numbers dont matter. A million subversive tribe - but hitler never gassed goldberg. Why not? What did one ""based kike"" matter in the overall scheme? Also, freedom of association is a key tenet of the lr. In hoppes world we have pic related. You want an ns enclave (covenant), go for it.",,Anonymous,quibhoppeorder.jpg,ttk5b2v97o31kfn1u70EZQ==,GB,,1532702309 180282366,180287525,2018-07-27 14:39:35,">>180287423 This",,Anonymous,,,,,1532702375 180282366,180287575,2018-07-27 14:40:05,">>180287423 >numbers don’t matter Strange how 99% of jews were put in camps then. Picking a diamond in the ruff does not excuse the rest of the coal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532702405 180282366,180287793,2018-07-27 14:42:36,">>180287575 >99% kek nice larp faggot go back to playing minecraft",,Anonymous,,,,,1532702556 180282366,180287809,2018-07-27 14:42:45,">>180287101 Nah. Im saying that like old ernie ""night of the long cocks"" rohm, your all faggots in denial looking for a strong daddy to take care of you.",,Anonymous,pembe_gamali_hac.jpg,yV23WSdPa94EtgHG5LKMcg==,GB,,1532702565 180282366,180287844,2018-07-27 14:43:09,">>180286815 Sorry, didnt see that",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532702589 180282366,180288153,2018-07-27 14:46:29,">>180287809 Or maybe it's the other way around, where a weak or absent father (both at the personal level and the civilizational level) leads to damage that manifests as the unhealthy homosexual behavior. Or maybe we're seeking the father archetype within.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532702789 180282366,180288230,2018-07-27 14:47:21,">>180287575 If a jew was loyal and had the right ideology, wasnt involved in kikery, even hitler accepted them. Why should we do less?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532702841 180282366,180288292,2018-07-27 14:47:58,">>180288153 Based Pirate",,Anonymous,,,,,1532702878 180282366,180288500,2018-07-27 14:50:09,">>180288153 You may well be right mate. All i know from my reading of history and politics is i dont trust any state with that kind of power any more - esp not modern states.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532703009 180282366,180288627,2018-07-27 14:51:37,">>180282366 Libertarians are retarded. If you import 3rd worlders they will vote for Statists. They will vote for gibs. They will take jobs from your own people. A nation has no destiny if it had no borders",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532703097 180282366,180288835,2018-07-27 14:53:38,">>180288627 >no borders >importing the third world literally the opposite of libertarian, thats about as libertarian as a neocon fag is conservative",,Anonymous,,,,,1532703218 180282366,180288850,2018-07-27 14:53:45,">>180288627 > If you import 3rd worlders they will vote for Statists As opposed to native-born Americans. Oh, wait. Native-born Americans have been voting for big government for the last two hundred years.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532703225 180282366,180288912,2018-07-27 14:54:18,">>180288835 >Libertarians believe in borders now Larken would like a word",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532703258 180282366,180288947,2018-07-27 14:54:36,">>180288835 >guy who defends Trump's foreign policy and demands more aggression against China and North Korea is an authority on libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,,,1532703276 180282366,180288961,2018-07-27 14:54:50,">>180288230 Did I say we do less? Why do you pander to the one in a million? Why is that a viable argument to you? “This one guy who defied odds means we can expect every other jew to just drop their biological prefix for subversive tribalism is white nations” That is simply ignorant of the overwhelming evidence",,Anonymous,,,,,1532703290 180282366,180288997,2018-07-27 14:55:19,">>180288850 I want you to look at how native whites vote over how Hispanic immigrants vote.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532703319 180282366,180289020,2018-07-27 14:55:33,">>180288627 >immigrants Fuck them. What makes you think there wont be borders? This isnt dude weed lmao libertarian general, this is rw libertarian.",,Anonymous,d86ba47e8a939586f517f80759b3bb4c.jpg,RSPa9Jn3SlunapaBv8rr4Q==,GB,,1532703333 180282366,180289185,2018-07-27 14:57:34,">>180288997 What's the big difference? They both vote for big government. You're not implying the Republican Party is libertarian, are you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1532703454 180282366,180289296,2018-07-27 14:58:43,">>180289185 It is not. No. But the democrats have actual socialists. One is worse",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532703523 180282366,180289402,2018-07-27 14:59:50,">>180289296 They're both socialist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532703590 180282366,180289487,2018-07-27 15:00:47,">>180288961 Not what i said, lad. I said i judge a man on his ideology and actions. Same as goldberg was judged. And remember, in ancap land, no central banks, no regulated monopolies, no gibs, no affirmative action, voluntary association only (freedom to discriminate) etc. Mechanisms for kikery are reduced or removed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532703647 180282366,180289554,2018-07-27 15:01:41,">>180288230 Nobody is saying shoot all Jews. Saying all Jews are bad is like saying all non Jews are good. Hitler's most trusted bodyguard was a Jew. Hitler even defended him against Himmler and Goering",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532703701 180282366,180289605,2018-07-27 15:02:13,"I never understood why NatSocs and AnCaps hate each other. Both are right-wing (as in, hierarchy, tradition, anti-egalitarianism, anti-democracy) as fuck, one is just an ideal and the other one is a realistic solution to modern society's problems. Guess which one is which. t. used to be an ancap, had a stormfag phase as well",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1532703733 180282366,180289639,2018-07-27 15:02:34,">>180289402 >The GOP is socialist",,Anonymous,1527603275006.jpg,45lRhpfcjJX9FBA586Wp3A==,US,,1532703754 180282366,180289848,2018-07-27 15:04:45,"Thinking of buying this flag. Does anyone recommended it, or know of a better one? Costs about 10 USD",,Anonymous,ABA69004-AAE3-47DF-A45A-22FA58B83DA5.jpg,9vRnaBz72neC6am1oXyNxg==,,,1532703885 180282366,180289889,2018-07-27 15:05:09,Memeflags get the rope first.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1532703909 180282366,180289920,2018-07-27 15:05:33,">>180289487 “Freedom to associate” This is where it trips up. Unfortunately, the vast majority of white westerners are willing to passively allow non-whites to mix with our people. By I’m sure you’ll say “well that’s their choice of freedom of association”. Why must we allow a nation to destroy itself? A race, to destroy itself? Why should we allow the ignorant to betray our people?",,Anonymous,,,,,1532703933 180282366,180289953,2018-07-27 15:05:53,">>180289605 >y do Anarchists and National Socialists dislike each other Rly?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532703953 180282366,180290014,2018-07-27 15:06:36,">>180289605 >used to be an ancap, had a stormfag phase Probably cos of just that. Most of us have been the other at some point, like ex smokers being the most outpoken anti smokers. Plus we dont give them shit in /nsg/ far as i know.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532703996 180282366,180290432,2018-07-27 15:11:03,">>180289953 >believing ancap is just anarchy+capitalism ancap has some heavy implications, ultimately it all boils down to whether you're a determinist or not. if you're a determinist, natsoc, fascism and third position ideologies are the only logical conclusion if you believe in free will, you'll most likely be an ancap ancaps who think that their ideology is just every man for himself + invisible hand of the market haven't read and contemplated enough about what they believe in",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1532704263 180282366,180290489,2018-07-27 15:11:36,">>180289920 It also means freedom to discriminate. Everything here is based on voluntary contracts. So for example you can set up a community, say /pol/and, where on joining the community you contractually agree to abide by community rules, which may include not associating with certain types of people. See pic >>180282778",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532704296 180282366,180290886,2018-07-27 15:15:52,">>180290432 It is reasonably true to say most natsocs and rw libs want similar outcomes, to an extent. Mechanism and the degree of subservience (esp to the state) required to achieve those outcomes is where we part ways. Natsocs believe in the state as saviour, we have given up on the state.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532704552 180282366,180291047,2018-07-27 15:17:26,">>180290489 You don’t seem to understand. “Freedom to discriminate”. Virtually no one in the modern age is willing to openly discriminate against other races in separation. There would be literal cities burning to the ground if any movement with that preface came about (burned by niggers as usual). The only possible way we can save our race is through a state-enforced race war.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532704646 180282366,180291301,2018-07-27 15:19:49,">>180290886 yes, exactly this.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1532704789 180282366,180291480,2018-07-27 15:21:58,"You guys are literally just calling each other names. The truth is that you're just a bunch of idiots wasting your lives away typing away on a fucking keyboard and living in you mother's basement. And I bet one of you is going to insult me for being Canadian. Good job And have a nice day",,Anonymous,unknown-10.png,wjJk8Xp7aGOEIKPAqJOZqw==,CA,,1532704918 180282366,180291648,2018-07-27 15:23:37,">>180291480 Accept National Socialism",,Anonymous,,,,,1532705017 180282366,180292449,2018-07-27 15:32:11,">>180291047 >willing to openly discriminate against other races in separation. What if there were no penalties for doing so? Dont hire nogs if you dont want to etc? Its only the enforced anti segregation and anti discrimination laws that brought us here. If those are gone, along with all gibs, what would people really do? Freedom of association is a lot better optics than a swastika and gtkrwn.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1532705531 180282366,180292616,2018-07-27 15:34:17,">>180292449 There are no current penalties for wanting to move away from non-whites, at least in America. The reason no one is willing to is completely because of the social implications of doing so. Also. >bad optics I don’t care how I look. How I sound. Or anything else that might “look bad” because it doesn’t fit in the Overton window. I care about truth. Nothing less.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532705657 180282366,180292689,2018-07-27 15:35:03,the austrian school is just a big jewish smear of the old philosophies of liberty made by anglo men,,Anonymous,,,US,,1532705703 180282366,180292711,2018-07-27 15:35:16,">>180291480 >And I bet one of you is going to insult me for being Canadian. Well, shit. If that isn't the most leaf thing I've read on this hell-hole of a website.",,Anonymous,1508952476000.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,,,1532705716 180282366,180293942,2018-07-27 15:48:10,,,Anonymous,hippity-hoppity-cant-afford-property-16529521.png,j6l+IAbx0l93NKIJQzMpSw==,GB,,1532706490 180282366,180294720,2018-07-27 15:56:14,,,Anonymous,9A4F0147-71A1-4881-8A9D-B1C7BF14FDB5.png,ofAhKOtPG2aBPAXw8OF/vA==,,,1532706974 180282366,180294858,2018-07-27 15:57:37,,,Anonymous,818D35B6-B9DE-4C17-A7ED-57D633C60BAF.jpg,ovO16TiD0tTh4QA0DdW47A==,,,1532707057 180282366,180294933,2018-07-27 15:58:20,,,Anonymous,4E49E243-C334-4434-B156-B32B5DEDA9AF.jpg,QTZs+f3uFmoWukpfp2g3Ow==,,,1532707100 180282366,180295013,2018-07-27 15:59:08,">>180294720 Remind me, what happened to him?",,Anonymous,1487287282486.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,GB,,1532707148 180282366,180295076,2018-07-27 15:59:55,">>180284778 did you watch a video? This days are gone. so sad",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1532707195 180282366,180295095,2018-07-27 16:00:06,,,Anonymous,458A5FA0-FFDD-425C-9A6B-8011D5197EA9.gif,WnMCaRj/IU9jIekInGWg7w==,,,1532707206 180282366,180295198,2018-07-27 16:01:09,">>180295076 Not gone. Not as long as you keep it alive brother.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532707269 180282366,180295275,2018-07-27 16:01:51,,,Anonymous,2D16A16F-732B-4564-8D87-8D2FDEDE6CC5.jpg,IW7/qb8XRiTEPbF4P0R8tA==,,,1532707311 180282366,180295342,2018-07-27 16:02:39,,,Anonymous,A259C56D-6659-4D07-B50A-5AC337C86DF7.jpg,Ct5wrI10cR1vYBrTSSzYFw==,,,1532707359 180282366,180295348,2018-07-27 16:02:37,">>180282366 >Lib right >Ancap Gross, Jeffersonian Democracy is far superior!",,Anonymous,Jeffersonian Principles.jpg,ODclwG6vlBlaJwCcypVE8w==,US,,1532707357 180282366,180295440,2018-07-27 16:03:33,,,Anonymous,1EFEA576-2066-4FA6-A9B5-87CDADA3A3E4.jpg,alhByDWzZ4WN1Q2n8oOcXw==,,,1532707413 180282366,180295618,2018-07-27 16:05:24,,,Anonymous,2AEC9FF7-CE19-41BE-A14B-0416C099BF80.png,yhOkFOBQYV3U9geTUObNdg==,,,1532707524 180282366,180295762,2018-07-27 16:06:55,,,Anonymous,1_3oCibOTEY-pxTjukdYfBpw.jpg,lE5VAB60RkEG3AYZiYDxFQ==,GB,,1532707615 180282366,180295763,2018-07-27 16:06:55,,,Anonymous,DF6CF6C5-58D9-46AB-9F44-62D6C1DEB959.png,M11oriYEYOwEvpJXff82yw==,,,1532707615 180282366,180295896,2018-07-27 16:08:05,,,Anonymous,5BD072B6-B609-4296-B6BC-830243EC944F.png,Lg6Je6XTjGiFQiNiRsZuGA==,,,1532707685 180282366,180297092,2018-07-27 16:20:00,">>180295896 Should have replace fascism with Georgism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532708400 180282366,180297175,2018-07-27 16:20:49,">>180295896 Now this is cringe posting",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532708449 180282366,180297649,2018-07-27 16:25:28,">>180297175 faggot detected",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532708728 180430900,180430900,2018-07-28 20:56:11,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads Physically remove the communist faggots who threaten our white bourgeois libertarian social order!",Libertarian Right General - /lrg/ - NUKE CHINA Edition,Anonymous,2hplmcl.jpg,GsBlNvCkmC7Tmcc+adfxxA==,,,1532811371 180430900,180431006,2018-07-28 20:57:23,">>180430900 im on board with it, but y r we nuking chyna",,Anonymous,rss pepe.jpg,NDFQYC42lgTtTwrGBUh3wQ==,,,1532811443 180430900,180431206,2018-07-28 21:00:08,You can’t even get the swastika right you libertarian retards,,Anonymous,,,,,1532811608 180430900,180431303,2018-07-28 21:01:17,">>180431206 Actually that's the original swastika hitler flipped it over",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532811677 180430900,180431328,2018-07-28 21:01:36,">>180430900 >Posting an ancap flag with a fascist symbol on it. >getting the fascist symbol backwards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532811696 180430900,180431425,2018-07-28 21:02:41,">>180431006 They violated the NAP so to speak >>180431206 stupid statist",,Anonymous,,,,,1532811761 180430900,180431553,2018-07-28 21:04:22,">>180431303 >Actually that's the original swastika >hitler flipped it over Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,1532481558407.jpg,wIlH2fOIiRf26eZCs/avfQ==,,,1532811862 180430900,180431624,2018-07-28 21:05:30,"To this day after a few years on /pol/ I can't bring myself to swallow national socialism. Top-down economies are unnatural and always fail in some way or another. In my opinion the ideal system is a monarchy that enforces general social conservatism while keeping schlomo in check with a free-market economy in place. In short, I guess I just find Hoppean~Pinochet philosophy to be the strongest pillar to build the house on.",,Anonymous,fascist snek.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,US,,1532811930 180430900,180431774,2018-07-28 21:07:04,>>180431553,,Anonymous,2E1673F2-4F39-4B50-AA44-6FCDD1B60076.jpg,WOHRWNDM+5zm8hQ9tAX8eg==,CA,,1532812024 180430900,180432002,2018-07-28 21:09:39,">>180430900 >NUKE CHINA Libertarians are against the possession and use of nuclear weapons, you retard. How can you claim to be libertarian if you never read War, Peace and the State? >But another answer that the libertarian is particularly equipped to give is that while the bow and arrow and even the rifle can be pinpointed, if the will be there, against actual criminals, modern nuclear weapons cannot. Here is a crucial difference in kind. Of course, the bow and arrow could be used for aggressive purposes, but it could also be pinpointed to use only against aggressors. Nuclear weapons, even ""conventional"" aerial bombs, cannot be. These weapons are ipso facto engines of indiscriminate mass destruction. (The only exception would be the extremely rare case where a mass of people who were all criminals inhabited a vast geographical area.) We must, therefore, conclude that the use of nuclear or similar weapons, or the threat thereof, is a sin and a crime against humanity for which there can be no justification.",,Anonymous,,,,,1532812179 180430900,180432004,2018-07-28 21:09:40,">>180431774 is there a higher res variant?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1532812180 180430900,180432140,2018-07-28 21:11:25,">>180432004 No sorry",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1532812285 180430900,180432181,2018-07-28 21:11:54,">>180431553 >>180431774 Did a google search and I stand corrected, the original swastika is just straight up-and-down while Hitler's is tilted. I think this board reeks of summer desu but I still have to agree with the ""snek"" ideology. It basically recognizes that Libertarians make the mistake of being to autistic with ideology and is willing to be pragmatic in order to preserve the underlying values which are, let's be honest, favorable over a totalitarian regime with Gestapo and leader worship.",,Anonymous,1514573175411.jpg,knq1UoV9ZHHfaXTPzyH/1w==,US,,1532812314 180430900,180432248,2018-07-28 21:12:35,">>180431425 how so mein negro",,Anonymous,,,,,1532812355 180430900,180432377,2018-07-28 21:13:58,Sometimes I'm an anarcho-capitalist. Sometimes I'm a fascist.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1532812438 180430900,180433010,2018-07-28 21:21:31,">>180432377 You're the right wing equivalent of a fucking centrist then. I personally would never buy into the idea that without any Person of power stopping Greed/Jewelry and Jewish behavior that a market will solely benefit your kind of people",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1532812891 180430900,180435199,2018-07-28 21:47:17,">>180431206 came here to say this.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1532814437 180527780,180527780,2018-07-29 19:00:22,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads Physically remove the communist faggots who threaten our white bourgeois libertarian social order!",Libertarian Right General - /lrg/ - PENIS Edition,Anonymous,1503045544762.png,EuWbPq02XTvjWXslLGhJtg==,,,1532890822 180527780,180529653,2018-07-29 19:21:50,">>180527780 The Communists out bid you by 0.00025 BTC.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532892110 180527780,180530186,2018-07-29 19:28:15,">>180527780 what do we do about the hedonistic libertarians and open border libertarians? desu they probably would get a helicopter ride if it were up to me",,Anonymous,hoppe.png,V0wnjEALwcVcCJbw04dgBA==,AU,,1532892495 180527780,180530312,2018-07-29 19:29:48,What stops the dude with the biggest personal army to rewrite the rules to his own benefit?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1532892588 180527780,180530529,2018-07-29 19:32:11,">>180530312 other personal armies & property owners protecting their private property you silly duck",,Anonymous,ancapchan.png,hl4ZJMMm8aRRc9EHcZGlTA==,AU,,1532892731 180527780,180530877,2018-07-29 19:36:06,">>180530529 And if my army is bigger than yours, I can just take tour property What the fuck are you going to do about it?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1532892966 180527780,180530986,2018-07-29 19:37:15,">>180530186 >NAP doesn't apply if you do a thing that I disagree with even if it doesn't affect anyone",,Anonymous,,,US,,1532893035 180613140,180613140,2018-07-30 18:37:05,"This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian. >Recommended Reading list http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/ >Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads Physically remove the communist faggots who threaten our white bourgeois libertarian social order!",Libertarian Right General - /lrg/ - PEACE AND PROSPERITY Edition,Anonymous,1519706995359.jpg,Ofke3KmtXsBLdJO4E3lzkg==,,,1532975825 186285811,186285811,2018-09-19 21:58:27,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL Union with fascists Edition,Anonymous,the final solution.png,/AM/8ZGtYFTPTJezaCblFg==,,,1537394307 186285811,186287235,2018-09-19 22:14:30,">>186285811 is /lrg/ ded?",,Anonymous,,,,,1537395270 186285811,186288072,2018-09-19 22:23:35,are there no ancaps or libertarians here any more? are they all gone?,,Anonymous,,,,,1537395815 186285811,186288460,2018-09-19 22:28:06,">>186288072 Sorry, went all fascism. Gotta purify before you can be free.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537396086 186285811,186288860,2018-09-19 22:32:30,">>186285811 I used to be, and I still am at heart, but like hoppe says- (I'm paraphrasing) ""We can't establish a libertarian order until those who opposed the order are physically removed from the country"" I loved Ron Paul, I caucused for him in 2012- what he, and other libertarians don't understand is that libertarianism would only work in a homogenous society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537396350 186285811,186288874,2018-09-19 22:32:36,">>186285811 So what is the fascist type symbol on the other guy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537396356 186285811,186289034,2018-09-19 22:34:32,">>186288460 this this this, the political system should change in cycles with the society https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJbBzgLnwmY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJbBzgLnwmY",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1537396472 186285811,186289322,2018-09-19 22:37:18,">>186288860 >>186288874 >>186289034 damn then we're all heading for tyranny, see you later poorfags",,Anonymous,,,,,1537396638 186285811,186289559,2018-09-19 22:40:06,">>186285811 >>186287235 >>186288072 >>186289322 Nobody follows your shitty meme ideology anymore because we all grew up. Grow up or move over to reddit.",,Anonymous,E573862E-4365-4882-B87C-30720E9D0DE6.jpg,eQVMoapvY//+QZpLjnM4VQ==,US,,1537396806 186285811,186289842,2018-09-19 22:43:17,">>186289322 >Oh no da Nazees we’re not epic. Dey didn’t let peepo do whateva dey wanted. Totally not epic dude.",,Anonymous,A6B1E4FA-0E66-4A30-81A4-0CFDC1452651.jpg,N4RLrj4YJ2OXBWwqWGrU4w==,US,,1537396997 186648260,186648260,2018-09-23 01:13:12,"The ""lolbert"" ideology of open borders and tolerance for all forms of degeneracy is not true Libertarianism. True Libertarianism is based on the concept of property rights, the first and most important being the ownership of one's own body, then of the external belongings of that person. >but capitalism is a Jewish invention False, capitalism was not invented, it is the natural state of things; money, investment, credit etc. are all just complications of the primitive ""you give me that, I give you this."" Jews have taken advantage of this by influencing the state to assist them in domination over the markets through lobbying and propaganda. Libertarians are against such state interference with the market. >An AnCap or otherwise propertarian society would allow slavery, pedophilia, abortion No, this goes against the principles of self-ownership, as these are all clear violations to any sane and moral person. Without the state protecting those who would violate property rights, there would be nothing keeping those around them from carrying out vigilante justice in the style of Old Testament Judea >it allows for homosexuality and other decadence Not necessarily. Property rights do not include the right to be free from discrimination as this isn't a direct violation of the person's self ownership or ownership over their belongings. The LP is betraying basic ideology in supporting ""bake the cake"" and the 14th Amendment.",/LRG/ - Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,hoppe.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,US,,1537665192 186648260,186648289,2018-09-23 01:13:33,">It promotes race mixing and atomization of individuals While it does promote atomization to an extent, it differs from the current statism infused with corporate interest in that it allows humanity to separate from each other to the extent of what is natural - the radical decay of family and people in the West today is a result of corporations A) influencing voters through propaganda and B) lobbying for laws that would support their goal of atomizing the population. The Libertarian doesn't support democracy for this reason; it allows people with malicious/stupid intent to force others to comply with their ideologies that don't support property rights. >dude weed lmao Again, freedom from discrimination is not a natural right, so junkies/degenerates will be forced to comply with employers or starve >corporations will strongarm everyone and imitate extreme AnCap memes What those memes don't take into account is that labor unions can still exist and without the state (which corporations used against labor unions in the past), they will be playing by the same rules. Businesses may dislike labor unions, but there is nothing within the confines of property rights that prohibits them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537665213 186648260,186648306,2018-09-23 01:13:52,">businesses would profit more from open borders Yes, Wal-Mart would, but a landlord running a fancy suburban estate isn't. Besides, we're not even advocating for the cessation of nation-states. In fact, the existence of nations promotes sovereignty more than their nonexistence. Early America is a perfect example of a mostly propertarian country that discriminated in regards to who could immigrate. The fatal flaws were, of course, the use of democracy and the infusion of the state and the banks, which led to its Libertarian values dissolving. >It allows for Leftists to spread their ideology Ah, time to cue the memes. Leftists don't recognize the concept of property rights, and are by nature a threat to rights and property. They, in turn, have forfeited their rights and have warranted retaliation by the rules of the NAP. Helicopters XD.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537665232 186648260,186649028,2018-09-23 01:24:10,,,Anonymous,1514931460186.jpg,zCK3bxXFDpnagrNqOw+5iQ==,US,,1537665850 186648260,186649061,2018-09-23 01:24:45,,,Anonymous,1514573175411.jpg,knq1UoV9ZHHfaXTPzyH/1w==,US,,1537665885 186648260,186649085,2018-09-23 01:25:03,,,Anonymous,1526749703434.png,54e3vl6ZUe9IQSOFAOgyWA==,US,,1537665903 186648260,186649239,2018-09-23 01:27:25,">>186648260 How do we redpill the Randians to based hoppeanism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537666045 186648260,186649353,2018-09-23 01:29:13,"White nationalism and libertarianism, a match made in heaven.",,Anonymous,LIBERTARIAN-header.jpg,LT9gJhrCPAds74pRqdaAeg==,US,,1537666153 186648260,186649383,2018-09-23 01:29:36,,,Anonymous,1507342346012.png,6EjPcmOBpqKCNCRlcKaPKA==,US,,1537666176 186648260,186649419,2018-09-23 01:30:05,,,Anonymous,1518595438077.png,Dm7ICi2H1l030Ujnendluw==,US,,1537666205 186648260,186649520,2018-09-23 01:31:42,">>186648260 People are supposed to discipline themselves or else they will be disciplined.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537666302 186648260,186649942,2018-09-23 01:38:04,Post for posterity,,Anonymous,1510615952703.png,JQCtolnLl1mO98HYf8+Rew==,,,1537666684 186648260,186651209,2018-09-23 01:56:06,,,Anonymous,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1537667766 186648260,186651507,2018-09-23 01:59:44,">>186648260 Hoppians are okay. My only arguement is it will never happen. Concentrate on nationalism while we still have a fucking nation. Also the NAP is gay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537667984 186648260,186652023,2018-09-23 02:06:20,">>186651507 >My only arguement is it will never happen. We literally had it back in the 60s. What makes you think bringing back freedom of association is impossible but white nationalism is?",,Anonymous,bg.jpg,2I787pwwqvc2imIfr4LZsA==,US,,1537668380 186648260,186652156,2018-09-23 02:07:57,">>186651507 It can happen, just maybe not in the US. I see a future for Italy though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537668477 186648260,186652189,2018-09-23 02:08:22,">>186652023 We had anarchism in the 60's?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537668502 186648260,186652384,2018-09-23 02:10:52,">>186652189 He's talking about free association, which hasn't existed since the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Private establishments and neighborhoods can no longer discriminate who they do business with or live among. It's an affront to individual liberty",,Anonymous,1534740953036.png,b2rBLHwSIcMFqGauq9nMYQ==,US,,1537668652 186648260,186652541,2018-09-23 02:13:05,">>186648260 >The ""lolbert"" ideology of open borders and tolerance for all forms of degeneracy is not true Libertarianism. Right. True libertarian is entirely against national borders. Anybody who advocates the use of state violence to enforce illegitimate political borders is not a libertarian.",,Anonymous,,,,,1537668785 186648260,186652591,2018-09-23 02:14:00,">>186652384 So why don't you respect the right of people to freely associate with foreigners?",,Anonymous,,,,,1537668840 186648260,186652639,2018-09-23 02:14:42,">>186652023 America has never had freedom of association, you retard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1537668882 186648260,186652660,2018-09-23 02:14:59,">>186648260 Either be a Fascist that despises Capitalism and degeneracy. Or a full social lolbert that will defend social and economic freedoms over anything else. Hoppe has some good points but he literally seems to have only made them to make Lolbertarianism look more power-larpy, it has no basis in economics at all as it still puts capitalism over everything else and tries to blame the degen on the jew and cultural marxism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1537668899 186648260,186652700,2018-09-23 02:15:26,">>186652384 Okay but what does that have to do with anarcho-capitalism? And we've never had freedom of association to that extent. We went straight from forced segregation to forced integration.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537668926 186648260,186652737,2018-09-23 02:15:52,">>186652384 Yep",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537668952 186648260,186652827,2018-09-23 02:17:17,">>186652189 Compared to today, yes. Most drugs were made illegal in 1970. Most importantly we had freedom of association, where you could refuse to serve someone with few limitations if any. >>186652591 Because we live in a world where we have to bake the fucking cake and worry about a lawsuit everytime we pass up hiring a minority or woman.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537669037 186648260,186652835,2018-09-23 02:17:23,">>186652591 >>186652639 I respect it but do you really think that the overall political establishment will be willing to overturn the laws from the 1960 to fit freedom of association because 'it's morally unsound'? retarded 'uhh its not capitalism though its the jews and cultural marxism' ancaps at it again with the most larpy bs",,Anonymous,,,,,1537669043 186648260,186652891,2018-09-23 02:18:31,">>186652700 >We went straight from forced segregation to forced integration. Are you saying that the middle ground is impossible?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537669111 186648260,186653089,2018-09-23 02:21:15,">>186652541 Eh, there are different flavors of libertarian, ranging from full-on anarcho-libertarians to the Republican-minus-religious-shit variety.",,Anonymous,,,,,1537669275 186648260,186653209,2018-09-23 02:22:53,">>186652891 No. I'm with Jarod Taylor on this one. States and communities that want to be homogenous should be allowed and states and communities that want multiculturalism should be allowed. If you break it down to an individual level you'll just end up with multiculturalism and then a culture/race war.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537669373 186648260,186653325,2018-09-23 02:24:40,">>186652835 >I respect it but do you really think that the overall political establishment will be willing to overturn the laws from the 1960 to fit freedom of association because 'it's morally unsound'? Depends. Lots of folks are already kind of fed up with the whole cosmopolitan worldview being shoved down our throats, and like living in nice neighborhoods. I could see us hitting a tipping point, especially if voter ID laws go through, where a lot of the negative aspects of Civil Rights Act era laws get rolled back. Or not. Plausible, but definitely not LIKELY.",,Anonymous,,,,,1537669480 186648260,186653845,2018-09-23 02:32:38,">>186652541 This argument reeks of Democrat LARPING as Libertarian. I'm an ancap and I belive in no boarders and no welfare state. But first you need to get rid of the welfare state and not the other way around. Gibs attract the bottom of the genetic barrel, stop feeding and educating and sewing up the bullet holes of the third worlders and we can discuss opening the borders a hair. There are a lot of infiltrators in the LP who are really there just to take votes away from Republicans.",,Anonymous,,,,,1537669958 186648260,186654233,2018-09-23 02:39:19,">>186652541 >>186652591 >>186652639 underaged",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537670359 186648260,186654339,2018-09-23 02:40:49,">>186653845 I don't even vote, retard. The only person I've ever voted for is Ron Paul back in 2008. >But first you need to get rid of the welfare state and not the other way around. Get rid of both. The order doesn't matter. State violence isn't the solution to state intervention. >There are a lot of infiltrators in the LP who are really there just to take votes away from Republicans. Who gives a fuck about Republicans? Both parties are the same. Are you a Republican LARPING as a libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,,,1537670449 186648260,186654364,2018-09-23 02:41:11,">be lolbertarian >People say to me ""Wtf you hate homeless people"" >Actually have no problem with them, as in a libertarian society people are more willing to give to charity, and all money they receive would be voluntarily given",,Anonymous,ancapball.png,l+tPbsC0TFq26m4nJknPwQ==,US,,1537670471 186648260,186654677,2018-09-23 02:46:42,"Libertarian is just gay, etatism is based.",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1537670802 186648260,186654762,2018-09-23 02:48:15,">>186654677 Shut up discount russian",,Anonymous,,,,,1537670895 186648260,186654811,2018-09-23 02:48:51,">>186648260 >libertarian >monarchist sympathizer PICK ONE, STATIST",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537670931 186648260,186654893,2018-09-23 02:50:07,">>186648260 Bump.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537671007 186648260,186654929,2018-09-23 02:50:42,"How do you genius libertardians propose to solve the Female Question, who have a built in propensity for destroying human civilization?",,Anonymous,,,,,1537671042 186648260,186654937,2018-09-23 02:50:50,">>186653209 I'm ok with this. Rather than focus on individual freedom we should be working on the localization of power (ex. federal government is weak but state governments and localities can have extreme differences in laws).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537671050 186648260,186655004,2018-09-23 02:51:54,">>186654811 You never Hoppes flagship have you? long story short that if you consider natural law to be supreme than a monarchy is the only system that truly upholds natural law and finely integrates religion. also, a monarchy or any equivalent form would in almost no way be comparable to the modern state",,Anonymous,,,,,1537671114 186648260,186655037,2018-09-23 02:52:39,">>186654364 >Actually have no problem with them, as in a libertarian society people are more willing to give to charity, and all money they receive would be voluntarily given Listening to some people from Kentucky, no. But that isn't a bad thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537671159 186648260,186657415,2018-09-23 03:38:39,">>186654929 Shame them and take away their gibs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537673919 186648260,186657732,2018-09-23 03:44:47,">>186648260 >Be libertarian >Landlord doesn't keep up maintenance >My Mcjob pays only 4 cents an hour and the rent is 700 a month >due by friday >Landlord says I violated the NAP by not paying >get sent to helicopter tour center >Bribe guard with remaining 30 cents from paycheck >go homeless on the streets >stores force me to pay them a 3/4th of what I get for begging or they call the local warlord to call the Helicopter Tour Center on me >Can't get a job because the wages somehow went up to 5 cents an hour and no one wants to hire me >Turn myself in to the HTC >hope I get reincarnated in the Communistan >Such is life in Ancapistan",,Anonymous,stefanMolyJUST.jpg,wHlGS0unshBUDWgoGkPsHw==,,,1537674287 186648260,186658285,2018-09-23 03:56:02,">>186654364 this sidewalk is private property. leave now or I'll kill you with my fully automatic gun.",,Anonymous,,,,,1537674962 186648260,186658379,2018-09-23 03:58:16,">>186654929 You mean something that advocates for less government intervention with females that use the government to subsidize their lives and to break up marriages to continually siphon resources for men while continually wanting more government intervention with taking away our civil liberties like being able to arm yourself to speech itself? Let me ask you how to reign in the female question with a lot of current western systems that give them the right to vote and seek political office to strengthen their interests? Also just ban their vote and ability to hold any sort of government position.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537675096 186648260,186659361,2018-09-23 04:16:45,">>186657732 you are not even wrong; but this is a feature of lolbertarian society, not a bug a failure like you describe in your post should be allowed to fail in a just and functioning society. not be propped up by gibs to die at age 80 after their third state-paid open heart surgeries to reverse the damage done by a lifetime of eating state-paid cheetos on the couch. we all die, but not all of us truly live. the helicopter-tour-center is the merciful option by comparison to the misery created by gibs",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1537676205 186648260,186660122,2018-09-23 04:29:17,">>186657732 Sounds like you're better off fucking off and living off the land. Money is only used to buy things created by other people's labor, but if you do everything yourself there's no need for it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537676957 186648260,186660627,2018-09-23 04:38:07,Reminder that Fashy Paleo-Libertarianism is the white man's ideology,,Anonymous,1533816658053.jpg,OAht9ObdJh6d2xjbJKiUvg==,BE,,1537677487 186648260,186660681,2018-09-23 04:39:16,">>186648260 Has it ever been tried? How close did 1800s America come to libertarianism?",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1537677556 186648260,186661792,2018-09-23 04:59:57,">>186660681 America was never truly libertarian because of slavery, etc. But the closest America ever had to a pure mass libertarian movement was in the Jacksonian era in the 1830s and 1840s. Some of the Jacksonian Democrats sound just like Ron Paul. William Leggett and the ""Locofoco"" New York Democrats are pretty much just as libertarian as modern-day libertarians. If you read a few of the new state constitutions written in that era, it's crazy how pro laissez faire they were.",,Anonymous,,,,,1537678797 186648260,186661866,2018-09-23 05:01:19,">>186648260 Thank God LRG is back",,Anonymous,2000px-Political_chart.jpg,XHLG5tWWvLAM4RlMpgZHcw==,,,1537678879 186648260,186662208,2018-09-23 05:07:23,">>186654339 >Get rid of both. The order doesn't matter. fuck off kike",,Anonymous,,,US,,1537679243 189670305,189670305,2018-10-16 16:35:02,"you already know what the fuck it is somebody post the pastebin lmao Anyway, this thread is dedicated to shit-talking consequentialists. Gang deontology rise up. TO ALL STARTERS: >read The Law by Fred Bastiat >read Democracy - The God that Failed by Dr. Hoppe >quit reading books, stock up on ammunition and blow up a government building legally in Minecraft with due process",/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - FUCK CONSEQUENTIALISTS EDITION,Anonymous,deontological ancap vs consequentialist ancap.png,EHnC/VJRyl5LpMAXv5zKwg==,SK,,1539707702 189670305,189670429,2018-10-16 16:36:09,"Reminder not to fall for the objectivist meme, fedoras are out of style and smoking is bad for you",,Anonymous,ancap reading list short.png,6LEor8KJYYZXOiK9DknvLQ==,SK,,1539707769 189670305,189670472,2018-10-16 16:36:44,"yeah, im not becoming a jew",,Anonymous,,,,,1539707804 189670305,189670487,2018-10-16 16:36:53,"Shut the fuck up, retsrd, no one gives a shit",,Anonymous,e6fd225.jpg,CFyUe51DwYv1rplhSGzp9w==,,,1539707813 189670305,189670507,2018-10-16 16:37:05,"Friendly reminder that communists aren't people, glad to have you fellas back /lrg/",,Anonymous,1523585017097.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,US,,1539707825 189670305,189670538,2018-10-16 16:37:22,Deontology is for lolicons and dog fuckers,,Anonymous,,,,,1539707842 189670305,189670756,2018-10-16 16:39:07,just shilling my oc,,Anonymous,Sans titre-1.png,oVuFEnNawLnENyKCb2Ml7Q==,FR,,1539707947 189670305,189671024,2018-10-16 16:41:26,">>189670538 god my female puppy is so fucking hot lmaooooooooooooo shut your stupid famished ass up",,Anonymous,n i g g e r.jpg,JiFrxb251DhPHFRMWM1DbQ==,SK,,1539708086 189670305,189671112,2018-10-16 16:42:15,"bumperino for life, liberty, and helicopter rides",,Anonymous,1523568743304.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,US,,1539708135 189670305,189671150,2018-10-16 16:42:35,Change my mind,,Nefer,EEXvIM5r_6U.jpg,keqxLN1ejCSHEjmupM0iFA==,GB,,1539708155 189670305,189671588,2018-10-16 16:46:31,Welfare is cancer,,Anonymous,Tusky_1530850504541_ALX0S24ZMD.jpg,Pz40ryMNlovg2NDGz07mpw==,,,1539708391 189670305,189671617,2018-10-16 16:46:48,">>189670305 >Deontological >Consequentialist >Minarchism I have no idea what any of those things mean",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539708408 189670305,189671770,2018-10-16 16:48:11,"what is this forced meme anyone that isn't a consequentialist is just an autistic screeching retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539708491 189670305,189671829,2018-10-16 16:48:39,">>189671617 It might be because my politics are basically just pic related, but more",,Anonymous,1530015432183.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,US,,1539708519 189670305,189671998,2018-10-16 16:50:07,">>189671617 lurk moar phaggot but no really >deontological belief that actions have a morality in themselves which is not based on their consequences - oriented towards natural law >consequentialism the exact opposite, the belief that actions should be judged based on their consequences - oriented towards utility >minarchism AnCap's cuck cousin - belief in limited government instead of a completely natural order based on family and kin bonds",,Anonymous,ancap vs mincap state coffee.png,XndYMLpo3yfOv0zQzokeOw==,SK,,1539708607 189670305,189672039,2018-10-16 16:50:26,">>189671770 look at this fuckin Jew",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539708626 189670305,189672230,2018-10-16 16:52:12,">>189671150 It isn't required, the Trump train requires NPCs to function. NPCs naturally go along with the flow of others in their social circle, it's a useful trait to say the least. As to tactics regarding this observation - if you were to seize control over a population of people, they aren't likely to rise up against you so long as you do not inconvenience them too much",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539708732 189670305,189672387,2018-10-16 16:53:27,">>189671770 eat shit lame ass commie retard",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1539708807 189670305,189672509,2018-10-16 16:54:38,,,Anonymous,NPCcompass.png,AFru6fPUT9g9ZzG4A4RV1A==,US,,1539708878 189670305,189672951,2018-10-16 16:58:59,">>189672509 I wouldn't call genuine extremists of any persuasion ""NPCs"". Antifas do not count becaus they're brainwashed in universities.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539709139 189670305,189673202,2018-10-16 17:01:22,">>189671998 Why would an action have any moral value besides it's consequences? A man who killed another man by accident by doing an action which seemed to be a good idea should be more easily forgiven, but not because he did the right thing with the wrong consequences, but because he's less likely to do it again when compared to a man who killed another intentionally and through malice.",,Anonymous,1534889702959.jpg,kPwt/WOqzLY4HPSADur0FA==,US,,1539709282 189670305,189673336,2018-10-16 17:02:30,">>189672951 the few at the top of the authoritarian heap may not be NPCs, but the mass of drones that makes up the bulk definitely are",,Anonymous,lemmings.png,wzIJWTIeNOmSdn8PMV7g5Q==,US,,1539709350 189670305,189673354,2018-10-16 17:02:42,"how dare you show your face here, you libertarians",,Anonymous,1505651862254.png,j5YwwNqqoQ8LtINmC8IqWA==,US,,1539709362 189670305,189673511,2018-10-16 17:04:16,Reminder that fascists are NPCs and libertarianism is the ultimate redpill,,Anonymous,,,,,1539709456 189670305,189673623,2018-10-16 17:05:15,">>189673354 /pol/ is more right-wing than authoritarian, that's how",,Anonymous,1536782587504.png,4RqWi3nDKgbXHyJILIwZ0g==,US,,1539709515 189670305,189673724,2018-10-16 17:06:16,">>189673202 Ending a life in itself is the action in question. If the prosecuting party sees that the man is truly sorry for his mistake, they have the authority of reducing the sentence. However, not all accidental manslaughter is created equal.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539709576 189670305,189673773,2018-10-16 17:06:43,">>189670305 I hate Government, Commies, Jews, Capitalists Where would I go? >>189671150 True as fuck",,Anonymous,,,,,1539709603 189670305,189673775,2018-10-16 17:06:45,">>189673336 >William Luther Pierce ahh, a fellow man of culture",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539709605 189670305,189673814,2018-10-16 17:07:01,">>189670305 When humans had yet to develop civilization, did we live in an anarchocapitalist utopia?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1539709621 189670305,189673868,2018-10-16 17:07:33,">>189670305 Im a libertarian but im not an anarco-capitalist because of things like this image.",,Anonymous,Cr4YJD2VYAQoDOG.jpg,+Xblh/ai5JjctrFzpeHYQw==,AR,,1539709653 189670305,189673874,2018-10-16 17:07:36,">>189673814 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539709656 189670305,189673926,2018-10-16 17:08:00,">>189673868 Nice strawman.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539709680 189670305,189673957,2018-10-16 17:08:19,">>189673773 >I hate Government, Commies, Jews, Capitalists >Where would I go? Into my helicopter.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539709699 189670305,189673988,2018-10-16 17:08:37,">>189673874 How the fuck is that not an argument?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1539709717 189670305,189673993,2018-10-16 17:08:39,">>189673354 This thread is our property. Get the fuck off my lawn, collectivist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539709719 189670305,189673996,2018-10-16 17:08:39,">>189671150 I literally can't. Neocons are the biggest NPCs",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1539709719 189670305,189674023,2018-10-16 17:08:56,">>189671588 This.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539709736 189670305,189674034,2018-10-16 17:09:02,">>189673511 Not all of them. NPCs are the followers who don't think for themselves. Fascists are that way not because they were told to be that way or because it's rewarding to be that way, they have arrived at that conclusion based on their own mental process, just like us. And then there's people who just want a leader who'll keep everything in check and they can't really justify this desire.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539709742 189670305,189674045,2018-10-16 17:09:06,">>189673926 How is that a strawman? not every argument you disagree is a strawman",,Anonymous,ME_463_StrawMan-640x199.png,e9eoAtoGRIIswoURDplrdQ==,AR,,1539709746 189670305,189674075,2018-10-16 17:09:26,">>189673957 will you going to take me to a ride Then I'll sure go",,Anonymous,,,,,1539709766 189670305,189674142,2018-10-16 17:10:05,">>189673868 Lolbertarians are such faggots. >reee free market > ree private federal reserve is larping as government but its not reeee! They need to take the nationalist jump",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539709805 189670305,189674164,2018-10-16 17:10:19,">>189673773 Capitalists as in corporations or capitalists as in people who own means of production or capitalists as in people who prefer the free market to central planning?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539709819 189670305,189674184,2018-10-16 17:10:33,>>189673773,,Anonymous,jewu.jpg,+3Wkmym2tuqdvEx8yjhHQQ==,US,,1539709833 189670305,189674231,2018-10-16 17:10:57,">>189673926 >Nice strawman. Except it's completely accurate. Anarcho capitalists are some of the most retarded fucking human beings on the face of this planet. Luckily no one is going to adopt your stillborn bullshit beliefs because, you know, they enjoy civilization.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539709857 189670305,189674265,2018-10-16 17:11:18,">>189673814 Hardly a utopia, although this poverty was caused by little to no division of labour, not the lack of a state.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539709878 189670305,189674403,2018-10-16 17:12:31,">>189670305 >Libertarianism",,Anonymous,Why.png,Z90jEclRpigu0mbd9B8/2A==,DE,,1539709951 189670305,189674415,2018-10-16 17:12:38,">>189674231 Nice ad-hominem. Please tell me about how good communism and statism have been for humanity. I am waiting.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1539709958 189670305,189674487,2018-10-16 17:13:19,">>189674045 Are you fucking stupid? It's literally the definition of a strawman argument. Try looking the shit up before opening your cock holster.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539709999 189670305,189674610,2018-10-16 17:14:25,">>189674415 Really? Please go, you subvert everything good",,Anonymous,1528305146695.jpg,AoHhlmcEblfcS51VwHHD0w==,US,,1539710065 189670305,189674671,2018-10-16 17:15:00,">>189673868 >air Nobody owns the air, nigga >land If it's their land they can do what they want with it. If it's a river it will be a violation of someone's property so it's gonna be illegal. Woah that was hard",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1539710100 189670305,189674674,2018-10-16 17:15:01,">>189673868 If people or their property are harmed by pollution (which is certain to happen), the company responsible should compensate them and pay them retribution to the full extent of the damages caused by their recklessness. >>189674142 The FED isn't private, what the hell are you talking about? Most of us would hardly consider corporations private entities as they only have limited liability - a good topic for a better-informed ancap to pick my brains about.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539710101 189670305,189674826,2018-10-16 17:16:36,">>189674671 What you're saying is that environmental regulations exist implicitly, since everything you do affects everyone else. How is that different from ratifying environmental regulations and making them clear for all?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1539710196 189670305,189674858,2018-10-16 17:16:53,">>189674415 >>189674023 >>189673993 >>189673957 >>189673926 >>189673874 >>189673511 YOU NEED TO GO",,Anonymous,go.png,TWIgv1mIBWlTTYxJyoJUIA==,US,,1539710213 189670305,189674887,2018-10-16 17:17:09,">>189674403 Because you allow others to rule over your people. You may have embraced the slave collar, but there's still free people about, which interferes with your programming, filthy NPC.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539710229 189670305,189674922,2018-10-16 17:17:32,">>189674164 mostly anti-corporation, but partly against free trade It gets too bad when we propertize everything",,Anonymous,,,,,1539710252 189670305,189675075,2018-10-16 17:18:45,">>189674826 The difference is that in AnCap there is no central coercive body enforcing laws. There is only one law - natural law, and it's enforced by anyone who cares.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539710325 189670305,189675173,2018-10-16 17:19:43,">>189671829 based.",,Anonymous,1532069769160.jpg,wVn76LRGfG7MZm8n50xOUw==,US,,1539710383 189670305,189675184,2018-10-16 17:19:46,">>189674487 >Without enviromental regulations companies and people woud pollute the rivers and the air. Wow what a strawman! Stop stawmaning me,without envieromental regulations we would be just like china you fucking sperg.If there were no laws preventing pollution then there is no reason for companies to spend millons in not polluting.",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,2AFusxkfKI04Eb4qssJH0A==,AR,,1539710386 189670305,189675193,2018-10-16 17:19:51,">>189674858 OH SHIT For those who can't see, the Ancap memeflag was a Yid",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539710391 189670305,189675366,2018-10-16 17:21:17,">>189674826 Environmental regulations are an act of unnecessary aggression, if someone wants to dump 2 tons of radioactive hazard in his private pool you have no right in stopping him. Current environmental regulations in most countries would stop him from doing that, so no the current environmental regulations wouldn't be implicitly enforced in an ancap society, since first and foremost they are in conflict with property rights aka natural law rights",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1539710477 189670305,189675428,2018-10-16 17:21:44,">>189674922 Property is already omnipresent, trying to change that is a revolt against nature. Free trade is a myth, libertarian covenants would establish sanctions against adversaries and tariffs against other covenants which are trying to subvert their society with their goods.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539710504 189670305,189675471,2018-10-16 17:22:08,">>189675193 All Jews have been Ancap on this board Once one thread which included pornographic lesbian clip in the start, with a name something like ""do woman talk about politics when men are not around"" or something",,Anonymous,,,,,1539710528 189670305,189675475,2018-10-16 17:22:09,">>189675075 The cap part is redundant then. AnCap isn't a system if you believe that ""natural law"" as a constant that will rectify problems in any way except formation of a nation-state (which happened in history in every single place over and over again). You are an anarchist who wants to get rid of governments and that doing so will sort everything out and a new state-like entity won't form in its place.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1539710529 189670305,189675496,2018-10-16 17:22:22,Theocranarchist minarcho-monarchism is the thinking man's antigovernment ideology.,,Anonymous,il_570xN.1179655872_gguj.jpg,O6psPHobDWgKC2mLyH2M7Q==,US,,1539710542 189670305,189675523,2018-10-16 17:22:35,">>189675184 Yeah cept in Red China it's the chink gov't that's responsible for the environmental disaster.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539710555 189670305,189675593,2018-10-16 17:23:16,">>189675075 Yeah, that's fucking retarded. The only reason you wouldn't have a ""central coercive body"" is that no-one has come up with it yet. In anarchocapitalism you could create a community and enforce rules in it just like we do in countries. You might call it a business or a company, and you'd have everyone sign a contract, but in reality you would just have a country. Furthermore, enforcing ""natural law by anyone who cares"" is literally the law of the jungle, i.e., the strongest guys beat the weak to submission. Your ancap utopia would degenerate to feudalism in a day.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1539710596 189670305,189675837,2018-10-16 17:25:36,">>189675428 I mean some people try to propetize thoughts, other people are just too selfish Ancap will allow selfish people get too much power, so I rather think myself as a centrist who is leaning anti-authoritarian, maybe little bit right-wing, meaing I don't like when people take stuff away from me, but we need to keep some social things right",,Anonymous,,,,,1539710736 189670305,189675957,2018-10-16 17:26:52,">>189671998 >natural law",,Anonymous,1539656691881.jpg,YO7ngAvajVCbAW0fAyaufQ==,PT,,1539710812 189670305,189675990,2018-10-16 17:27:15,">>189675593 Enserf the rich, enslave the poor and stick everyone else into gulag where they are forced to work two eighteen hour shifts a day making their own manacles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539710835 189670305,189676002,2018-10-16 17:27:21,">>189675475 the ""cap"" part is mainly a statement to the effect of ""hey, I'm not a communist or in any way aligned with them, I actually respect property rights"" As for your comment regarding the state, you'd be right insofar as a new government based on land ownership would form. The lack of coercion is key.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539710841 189670305,189676021,2018-10-16 17:27:27,,,Anonymous,43117947_2189495727935658_7943673895217790976_n.png,pCUSuETbhkCCtGP3F98L9A==,SE,,1539710847 189670305,189676132,2018-10-16 17:28:25,">>189671150 pretty much, though relying too heavily on ""both sides suck lmao"" should be avoided.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539710905 189670305,189676156,2018-10-16 17:28:40,">>189675593 >degenerate to feudalism >implying democracy -> feudalism isn't an improvement",,Anonymous,ancap grug.jpg,GpZUv5LN3drvEaiIo5Hhgw==,SK,,1539710920 189670305,189676184,2018-10-16 17:28:56,">>189675075 >There is only one law - natural law And that's exactly why I'm not an ancap. It's pure savagery. Of course, we must ACKNOWLEDGE the laws of nature, because in the end there is nothing else, but I think we should try to soften them at the same time. I believe that human morality should drive our daily lives, not survival of the fittest. And I think that e.g. national socialism tries to achieve exactly that - to live good lives without degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1539710936 189670305,189676247,2018-10-16 17:29:25,">>189675837 Intellectual property is a meme, doesn't exist. The most effective way to destroy a society's moral code has been the state.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539710965 189670305,189676299,2018-10-16 17:29:49,">>189675957 D-did I say something?",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539710989 189670305,189676321,2018-10-16 17:30:00,">>189676156 >>implying democracy -> feudalism isn't an improvement I'm not implying such a thing. I'm just stating what would happen to anarchocapitalism. It is not a stable state of affairs even in theory and certainly not in practice.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1539711000 189670305,189676371,2018-10-16 17:30:24,">>189676156 I'm all for making voting illegal. You can still vote but expressing your convictions, whatever they may be, comes with a pair of handcuffs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711024 189670305,189676403,2018-10-16 17:30:39,">>189675593 What are you even talking about? Polycentric law based societies? Nobody said there's no law in an ancap society what does the whole ""create community and enforce rules in it"" even mean?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1539711039 189670305,189676427,2018-10-16 17:30:52,">>189676156 >let's reset history 600 years except this time with more advanced weapons capable of infinitely more brutality This is why ancaps are universally brainlets. Anyone with those leanings who is actually interesting and smart is NRx.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1539711052 189670305,189676531,2018-10-16 17:31:58,">>189676403 >Nobody said there's no law in an ancap k",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1539711118 189670305,189676543,2018-10-16 17:32:02,">>189670305 Libertarian >Individualism >NAP >Usury as long as you agree >Why not enrich myself over others Without some sort of care about ones people or community, we will live in tragedy of the commons or a jewocracy.",,Anonymous,1535719135616.gif,kagKtrTHKpjYb+BxhW8TcA==,US,,1539711122 189670305,189676560,2018-10-16 17:32:09,">>189676321 It's one of those lul-merican ideologies. They exist out pure faggotry bc outdated constitution. Check this out. https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/572377/little-potato/",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1539711129 189670305,189676601,2018-10-16 17:32:31,">>189676156 >not using a ""military style assault"" club what stops a group of people controlling a land area from becoming a state in ancap land?",,Anonymous,GrugCap.jpg,JM1vvzT3UK8ACL0KiPT0tw==,US,,1539711151 189670305,189676606,2018-10-16 17:32:34,">>189676021 based >>189676184 Natural morality (be it religious of any stripe, or volkish) rules human behaviour once the state is powerless to enforce its artificial value system aimed at preserving degenerate mass democracy. National Socialism raises good points but it is consequentialist in nature (even though it claims to be otherwise) - they betray this fact in their arguments against us.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539711154 189670305,189676615,2018-10-16 17:32:42,">implying anarchism is possible >implying the state isn't inevitable >implying hierarchy isn't inevitable >implying violence is the greatest and simplest form of resource accumulation >implying those with higher resources wont burst your NAP bubble The Lolberg debate has been had on multiple variations of this board over the last decade. Ron Paul's failure wounded it, and this fat man walking on stage killed it. Now lolbergs are saying Kavanaugh should be in prison. They abandoned presumption of innocence. That is how easily lolbergs got shilled and co-opted by neolibs and marxists. Weak ideology. Fascism is the only solution. We've been consistent for a century. We overthrew our central banks and it was lolbergs that put them back into power.",,Anonymous,lolberg degeneracy.jpg,PeLDzoG46aDAdRxa9x2BFw==,,,1539711162 189670305,189676711,2018-10-16 17:33:33,">>189676427 >NRx >not intellectual masturbation this ain't it chief",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539711213 189670305,189676712,2018-10-16 17:33:33,">>189671150 The whole point of the Trump movement was that it proved that the NPCs weren't solely programmed for leftwing purposes, that we could control them if we tried hard enough",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711213 189670305,189676743,2018-10-16 17:33:48,">>189673868 >Poisoning someone with pollution would legal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711228 189670305,189676800,2018-10-16 17:34:29,">>189676543 Tragedy of the commons is a state problem. If you don't care about others, your abilities to participate in division of labour are crippled and you'll starve to death.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539711269 189670305,189676805,2018-10-16 17:34:31,">>189670487 Okay, this is based",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1539711271 189670305,189676871,2018-10-16 17:35:11,">>189676427 >NRx Dead movement that only existed on blogs and twitter. Move on, m8. It's gone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539711311 189670305,189676876,2018-10-16 17:35:12,">>189675523 I know that,but listen,the goverment can say that something is ok to do and that will only make it possible for this thing that was said it was ok to do to be done at the rate it would be done without a goverment. For example,if goverment says that rape is ok,we are going to have as much rape and if there was no goverment,the goverment in china when in comes to the enviorement acts as if there was no goverment. So I dont see how that does not prove my point,when the goverment does not act,you get an enviorement like the one china have.Im not saying goverment=good enviorement,im saying no goverment or goverment that does not act=polluted water and air.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1539711312 189670305,189676929,2018-10-16 17:35:38,">>189676743 Stop filling the air with carbon dioxide or I will shoot you to death.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711338 189670305,189676941,2018-10-16 17:35:43,">>189676601 It's not a state if they all agree to abide by their rules, as long as secession of any of them's person and property is possible.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539711343 189670305,189676944,2018-10-16 17:35:44,">>189676531 Kek npc just fried its own chip >k KKK",,Anonymous,file.png,eNLPPlwh7LA1TgPDiWCVXA==,GR,,1539711344 189670305,189676951,2018-10-16 17:35:49,">>189670305 Read Anarchy State Utopia by Nozick. Ann-Caps call it a spook book",,Anonymous,0AB93302-0674-42A2-82A2-CF2560F36576.jpg,XWKMiUT3DD+/Lj70CemFvA==,US,,1539711349 189670305,189676961,2018-10-16 17:35:56,">>189670305 >Rothbard in 2018",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1539711356 189670305,189677009,2018-10-16 17:36:22,">>189676615 edit: >implying violence isn't the greatest and simplest form of resource accumulation",,Anonymous,,,,,1539711382 189670305,189677020,2018-10-16 17:36:29,">>189676615 that fat fuck is a literal communist, no joke besides, everyone knows that the libertarian party has been infiltrated by a bunch of conservatives",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539711389 189670305,189677039,2018-10-16 17:36:41,">>189676615 Based",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711401 189670305,189677063,2018-10-16 17:36:52,">>189673868 will you produce what they produce for less pollution and cost?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711412 189670305,189677071,2018-10-16 17:36:59,">>189673868 Most retarded strawman I've ever seen.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1539711419 189670305,189677088,2018-10-16 17:37:07,">>189677009 Actually finding it untapped is the easiest and simplest way",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711427 189670305,189677170,2018-10-16 17:37:56,">>189677088 Someone has to dig it up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539711476 189670305,189677198,2018-10-16 17:38:07,">>189676615 >Look at this one degenerate, he must represent the entire movement. Kys brainlet. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/neo-nazis-arrested-florida-drug-gun-charges-article-1.3398405",,Anonymous,2_neo_nazis_saluting_by_themistrunsred-d572rj6.jpg,a3xYUphjDQzeFNslilkfWA==,US,,1539711487 189670305,189677312,2018-10-16 17:38:59,">>189676951 The brief section in which he discusses the impossibility of utopia makes the title worth picking up alone. The work is chuckle-worthy otherwise. Nozick makes mention within want to say first hundred pages that he puffs Beelzebub's broccoli.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711539 189670305,189677314,2018-10-16 17:39:01,">>189676951 >nozick my man literally said that arguments are violence, LMAOOOOOOO",,Anonymous,no-dick gets memed.png,iEFMGZFVh9U7ewRnGH/GCw==,SK,,1539711541 189670305,189677317,2018-10-16 17:39:05,">>189677170 So. It’s hard work, but it is more abundant almost always and less of a risk to obtain it ie getting chased off by angry mob",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711545 189670305,189677419,2018-10-16 17:39:52,">>189673202 >Why would an action have any moral value besides its consequences? Stopped reading",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711592 189670305,189677487,2018-10-16 17:40:34,">>189676615 This might be the single most retarded post I have ever seen. Strawmanning Jew faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711634 189670305,189677504,2018-10-16 17:40:41,">>189674674 >If people or their property are harmed by pollution (which is certain to happen), the company responsible should compensate them and pay them retribution to the full extent of the damages caused by their recklessness. Exactly,and in ancap land that will not happen because there is no law other than the law you can enforce by yourself,this is why im a libertarian and not an ancap,the problem is that in the USA the libertarian party has been infiltrated by ancap that make the term lolbertarian fit.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1539711641 189670305,189677505,2018-10-16 17:40:41,"Anarchy is a joke, in any form. It just enables an easier opportunity for a dictator to become a leader.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711641 189670305,189677514,2018-10-16 17:40:49,">>189677009 nigger thinking",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1539711649 189670305,189677647,2018-10-16 17:42:05,">>189677063 How can I have lower costs if I have to pay for cleaning up my pollution and my competition does not?",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1539711725 189670305,189677648,2018-10-16 17:42:05,">>189676929 You can't possibly be that retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711725 189670305,189677812,2018-10-16 17:43:30,">>189676543 >Le atomized individual meme Educate yourselves. https://misesuk.org/2018/09/30/misesian-man-neither-a-rock-nor-an-island-or-why-traditionalists-should-learn-austrian-economics/",,Anonymous,1502602540242.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,US,,1539711810 189670305,189677814,2018-10-16 17:43:34,">>189677198 He represented a party and that party has been consistent degenerates for years. I can openly say these troglodytes are not fascists. They're fuck ups who love the idea of hollywood nazism but I still have more respect for them than lolbergs who want to put a man in prison for a false rape charge from 30 years ago. Fascism is a worldview and one thing that separates our worldviews is that I can happily say all 3 people in our images are degenerates who should be locked up. You think all 3 have done no wrong and should happily run drugs and prance about naked in public. Lolbergism is trash. Degeneracy is an affront to Cosmic Order and should be crushed with an iron fist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539711814 189670305,189677863,2018-10-16 17:44:00,">>189673868 this not to mention anarchocucks have no way to enforce any rules about microwaves or radiowaves",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1539711840 189670305,189677975,2018-10-16 17:45:07,">>189677487 >implying it's a strawman >implying anarchism can get off the ground in any meaningful way Name a single society that didn't have a hierarchy with a monopoly on violence. Name a single, solitary one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539711907 189670305,189678013,2018-10-16 17:45:25,">>189677648 I was making joke about respiration as pollution, the NAP, and and absurd severe repercussions oft referenced. Sorry it was too subtle.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539711925 189670305,189678120,2018-10-16 17:46:18,">>189677504 >because there is no law other than the law you can enforce by yourself Why are there so many retards in this thread? You don't have to enforce shit, you do have the right to but you could just let it to people more competent than you. Private defense agencies, have you heard of them?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1539711978 189670305,189678189,2018-10-16 17:46:54,">>189677814 Define degeneracy.",,Anonymous,1537412071117.png,LNnlrSbdvO3rf54jQ8Xp5w==,US,,1539712014 189670305,189678204,2018-10-16 17:47:04,">>189677312 The first half of the book is undeniably thought provoking. The whole concept of it is necessary for the state, would the state be necessary if it didn’t exist and where would we be without it >>189677314 Hoppe didn’t disagree with Nozick, he was confused on how someone would deal with violent people that vemiently disagreed with minarchy. That lead to the physical removal meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712024 189670305,189678237,2018-10-16 17:47:29,"Deontology is informed by consequences. If shooting you in the head cured you of cancer and left you otherwise unharmed, it would be a positive action, which would have a social pressure to be passed on to others who never had shot anyone in the head as a ""good"" action to take.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1539712049 189670305,189678263,2018-10-16 17:47:48,">>189677812 Live and let live is a poisonous concept. Moral standards should be enforced by Law.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539712068 189670305,189678369,2018-10-16 17:48:49,"This is an ideology created by Jews like Mises, rothbard, Ayn Rand and Hayek and even Greenspan. Libertarianism only fits the Jewish mindset. Just another one their ploys to enslave the goys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712129 189670305,189678468,2018-10-16 17:49:55,">>189678120 So what prevents the company or association of many companies that would have to spend money in not polluting from spending money of another private defense agency instead of cleaning up their mess? You would literally have a war you fucking retard,would you prefer that rather than having a law that say ""no pollution or you go to jail and pay a fine""? God ancaps are so fucking retarded is exhausting.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1539712195 189670305,189678531,2018-10-16 17:50:29,">>189678263 The issue is that if you have a libertarian standard which holds NAP, what do you do when a significant part of the population decide to oppose it and try to force collectivism on the population by force. Hence why Hope argues for physical removal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712229 189670305,189678563,2018-10-16 17:50:44,">>189678189 >implying there is any hard evidence of this >implying these drugs weren't administered frequently prior to greater STATE regulation Don't fuck around lolberg. Degeneracy is well known and you wouldn't let your children engage in it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539712244 189670305,189678613,2018-10-16 17:51:11,">>189678204 It has undeniable value in the work and good reason for it having become internationally influential title but there are passages that gave me a laugh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712271 189670305,189678742,2018-10-16 17:52:21,">>189678613 Most people forget that when you read this you have to see it as trolling Rawls. That is why some of it does not make sense at first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712341 189670305,189678743,2018-10-16 17:52:21,">>189678531 And who decides this? It requires a hierarchical infrastructure and inevitably becomes mob rule if voted by the public. The laws get written, infrastructure builds and you've abandoned your principles.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539712341 189670305,189678833,2018-10-16 17:53:27,">>189677975 >These extortionists have always existed throughout history. >Therefore, we must accept their criminal behavior as inevitable.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712407 189670305,189678853,2018-10-16 17:53:43,"Hey goys, anybody make it to Auburn a couple weeks ago?",,Anonymous,1535921070776.jpg,ZaHGZjKNuQCjgaupMMSLlA==,US,,1539712423 189670305,189679012,2018-10-16 17:55:18,">>189678743 The whole point of nozick is that a pure constitutional republic is formed. People for natural and or pragmatic reasons come together to strengthen oneself. The ideas are rooted in compromises between different people that sides all will tolerate which builds the basis of a constitution. Everything else is based on more compromises that some people might not like, but they agree that it can be refuted in years to come",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712518 189670305,189679024,2018-10-16 17:55:25,">>189678563 Define degeneracy. What substances should be banned? Any that can be abused? Not even Hitler wanted to ban alcohol, but alcohol is very dangerous and harmful when abused.",,Anonymous,1535791045113.jpg,dSCr1JKCsq4QX+JHnIXCtA==,US,,1539712525 189670305,189679134,2018-10-16 17:56:33,">>189670305 Deontologists need to be gassed",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1539712593 189670305,189679174,2018-10-16 17:56:58,">>189678833 >the human condition has repeated the same identical pattern and shows no sign of ever being overcome >hierarchies rule through violence and have consistently done so >""we anarchists are going to oppose the human condition and overthrow these hierarchies while promoting non-aggression"" It isn't criminal. Crimes are opposition to Law. Law is enacted by the state. The state is controlled by the hierarchy. There are no 'crimes' within anarchy because there is no Law.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539712618 189670305,189679260,2018-10-16 17:57:43,">>189679174 What about natural law?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712663 189670305,189679295,2018-10-16 17:58:05,">>189678743 >Voluntary organizations don't exist.",,Anonymous,1534916557891.gif,TkDNUAzdmekY9iNG4EquQQ==,US,,1539712685 189670305,189679376,2018-10-16 17:59:03,">>189676929 >having to go to such extremes to discredit a philosophy pathetic",,Anonymous,1494459186357.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1539712743 189670305,189679380,2018-10-16 17:59:07,">>189679012 Essentially, the foundation of the US. And how has that ended up? The constitution had one major vulnerability as does liberalism in general. Interpretation of the law is what matters and if a group can gain enough power, they can decide what the laws are and overthrow the system. Liberalism is a disgusting ideology. Suffrage of any kind should be earned and there should be no compromise with core ancient order.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539712747 189670305,189679504,2018-10-16 18:00:13,">>189678468 Holy shit is this the new leaked Spielberg script? This shit is just laughable, if a company is spilling shit in your back yard, you take them to court and solve the problem. Where the fuck did war come from?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1539712813 189670305,189679515,2018-10-16 18:00:22,">>189679380 Thank God the US was founded under minarchy. Tyranny of the minority and majority are the roots to all evil which are authoritarian collectivism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712822 189670305,189679547,2018-10-16 18:00:43,">>189679174 Let's say you crash on an unknown island in the middle of the pacific with ten other survivors. You fished all day and are about to cook what you caught. Then another survivor comes up and takes your fish. Has an injustice been committed? After all there is no state to say that theft is a crime.",,Anonymous,1535495006209.png,hoAecKPjbt7U2Jqhfwk81A==,US,,1539712843 189670305,189679571,2018-10-16 18:00:56,">>189679024 Recreational drugs should be banned. Alcoholism and smoking can be alleviated overtime through good social policy. I use to think the banning of smoking in indoor areas was wrong, but I've seen the statistics on public health and the improvement cannot be argued with.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539712856 189670305,189679624,2018-10-16 18:01:35,">>189679260 Natural Law is eternal. Natural Law dictates that hierarchies are inevitable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539712895 189670305,189679690,2018-10-16 18:02:16,"Some ppl here don't even know what the natural law is so I'll expalin: 1. YOU OWN YOURSELF thus you have a right to own property thus you have a right to protect yourself and your property 2. Other people own themselves too thus calming ownership over people is slavery and slavery can be only achieved with violence thus imitation of violence against people is wrong. Natsocs, Minarchists, Centrists, Communists and Statists in general believe that the state owns people thus can force everybody to do what they want and when you have the organisation that has literal monopoly on violence and can even tell you that self defence is wrong because slaves don't have a right to it will be run by the worst possible people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539712936 189670305,189679717,2018-10-16 18:02:30,">>189678263 Whose ""moral"" standards? Dear leader's? Not a very solid foundation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712950 189670305,189679758,2018-10-16 18:02:53,>>189678369,,Anonymous,1525911372267.png,VgJ3FIHAetF8lXZ3G9hj3Q==,US,,1539712973 189670305,189679762,2018-10-16 18:02:55,">>189679624 Natural dictates that humans for the most part act rationally for the self. Society could be without hierarchy, but hierarchy for natural, pragmatic and or by force can arise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539712975 189670305,189679822,2018-10-16 18:03:37,">>189679547 No injustice has been committed. It is survival of the fittest. The is the law of nature. She's a harsh brutal mistress and nothing can be done about it. Defend what is yours or someone will take it. Defend it by any means.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713017 189670305,189680015,2018-10-16 18:05:24,">>189679822 So if Ann-coms and Ann-socs raid a Ann-fascist camp and kill everyone, has a crime been committed. According to fascism, yes because communism and socialism are evil and therefore any violent action done by them is always wrong",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713124 189670305,189680057,2018-10-16 18:05:45,">>189671588 Can you add fucking corporate/defense industry bloodsuckers to that image?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713145 189670305,189680089,2018-10-16 18:05:56,">>189679571 Why not ban alcohol and tobacco? Also, sugar, television, video games, cough syrup, dairy, red meat, etc.",,Anonymous,1537387416155.jpg,mfqDCt/fwOucLcl2GxZdzw==,US,,1539713156 189670305,189680176,2018-10-16 18:06:49,">>189679717 Race, tradition, opposition to the unnatural within the social world. Homosexuality is immoral. All statistics show them to be depressed, have high rates of STD's, have self-loathing tendencies, almost never have a meaningful relationships, promote their illness to others and die young either by disease or suicide. The happiest people in society are married, with children. The most successful marriages began out of relationships where the couple are both virgins. We have know what is morally abhorrent since ancient times. Do not pretend you don't know what is immoral. We all do.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713209 189670305,189680208,2018-10-16 18:07:13,">>189679762 Correction >ALWAYS arises",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713233 189670305,189680313,2018-10-16 18:08:09,">>189679504 In ancap that cant happen because you have no law retard,are you actually retarded or are you just trolling? >in an ancap society with no law you can just take them to court and sue them with the existing law that dont exist. >Where the fuck did war come from? It came from the company that polluted the air and water not wanting to pay the cost of not doing that so they hired another company to figth the company you hired.",,Anonymous,1503147570416.jpg,boq3S1vWl4pbs1xvcTGk8A==,AR,,1539713289 189670305,189680332,2018-10-16 18:08:23,">>189680208 They had ancient sects of Jewish monks that had no hierarchy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713303 189670305,189680414,2018-10-16 18:09:14,">>189680015 These are dumb hypotheticals, but if we didn't defend what is ours then we were weak, but good luck doing that. We will kill every 10 of yours for every 1 one of ours.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713354 189670305,189680452,2018-10-16 18:09:38,">>189680313 Ann-caps believe in arbitration, but ultimately there is no way to fairly and peacefully apply a resolution. One party could be stronger and reject the outcome or one party agrees but later decides it sucks and seeks revenge",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713378 189670305,189680478,2018-10-16 18:09:53,">>189670305 What do I call myself if I am ancap, personally deontologist, but practically consequentialist? I.E. I want private law enforcement and personally believe in the NAP, but I think the only workable system has private defense companies that are not bound to the NAP, but only market forces.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713393 189670305,189680526,2018-10-16 18:10:20,>idiot general,,Anonymous,,,,,1539713420 189670305,189680565,2018-10-16 18:10:37,">>189680313 >in ancap you have no law Seriously this is fucking hilarious, it really shows that people haven't even read a fucking wiki page on what anarcho-capitalism actually is yet seem to have strong convictions on why it would never work. Here you go friend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycentric_law",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1539713437 189670305,189680571,2018-10-16 18:10:39,">>189680526 fuck wrong flag you never saw anything",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713439 189670305,189680577,2018-10-16 18:10:44,">>189680414 Fascism believes that all socialist and communist actions are evil and wrong for multiple reasons therefore a crime therefore yes a crime can exist in anarchy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713444 189670305,189680678,2018-10-16 18:11:44,">>189678743 >hierarchies can't exist with out the state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713504 189670305,189680708,2018-10-16 18:12:00,">>189680176 >Homosexuality is immoral. Prove it. >All statistics show them to be depressed, have high rates of STD's, have self-loathing tendencies, almost never have a meaningful relationships, promote their illness to others and die young either by disease or suicide. This is not proof of immorality, just a suboptimal sexual preference. They're also only like 5% of the population and inconsequential.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713520 189670305,189680750,2018-10-16 18:12:23,">>189680089 Fascism is also practical. It would not be easy to pry people off these things. These resources aren't degenerate, only an abundance of them are. Alcohol and tobacco haven't caused major problems like homosexuality, junkies or unabashed welfare. The problem they cause can be limited. Television and video games are only a problem due to people preferring escapism to their own lives. Socially cohesive communities with high trust and face to face interaction are preferred by most to video games and television.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713543 189670305,189680769,2018-10-16 18:12:36,">>189680678 They can. Plains Indians. They were nomads with a chief",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713556 189670305,189680829,2018-10-16 18:13:15,">>189679822 >No injustice has been committed Of course it has, otherwise you would not defend what is yours (notice how you assume property rights without the state to define them).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713595 189670305,189680878,2018-10-16 18:13:53,">>189680708 Homosexuality may not be immoral, but requiring people to accept it is. It's forcing people to accept sexual hedonism as legitimacy, fags can exist fine but anytime someone says you're not allowed to hate them for being fags they're crossing the line",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1539713633 189670305,189681004,2018-10-16 18:15:13,">>189680750 It’s actually not. Fascism wants to reach autarky, the issue is that some areas ie desert will not have some resources to reach it. The other issue is that fascism promotes women popping out kids every year which will lead to eventual high unemployment that can only be solved by making more jobs which then creates high inflation. That’s not including price controls set on nationally important goods ie bread as opposed to non-insential ie teddy bears",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713713 189670305,189681081,2018-10-16 18:16:13,">>189680577 You're talking to a Fascist. Yes, they are immoral but law requires a state. Cosmic Order is a law in and of itself. When you don't follow Cosmic Order, nature itself punishes you. Theoretical communism is an ideology most opposed to the human condition and cosmic order. It fails quicker. Liberalism also denies the human condition, but less so, which means it dies slower and it's impact is stronger. Liberalism is far more harmful to a society than communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713773 189670305,189681150,2018-10-16 18:17:07,">>189680678 The 'State' is eternal and has existed since nomads. All tribes have leadership and claim to territory. All rule with violence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713827 189670305,189681181,2018-10-16 18:17:20,">>189680750 >Alcohol and tobacco haven't caused major problems like homosexuality, junkies or unabashed welfare. What the fuck are you on. And fascists love the welfare state, not libertarians. Homosexuals are not a problem except for their annoying parades and STD rates (which mostly on affects their own community). Junkies have their addictions exacerbated by state intervention and state failure to clean up its own public property.",,Anonymous,HSVDk9V.jpg,NQmlz92zjO275UVhrwz//g==,US,,1539713840 189670305,189681187,2018-10-16 18:17:25,">>189680750 if only there was some kind of economic and philosophical critique that explained how work in an industrialized society leads to alienation >in a smoke filled room >forcing everyone at gun point to blow smoke away with giant paper fans instead of just putting out the fire",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713845 189670305,189681208,2018-10-16 18:17:38,">>189680878 True.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713858 189670305,189681233,2018-10-16 18:17:55,">>189681081 Communism is worse. Fasist founder said so. Liberalism is a close second. The reason is that communism disallows the state to exist and does not promote nationalism. Liberalism has a state and is not naturally against nationalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539713875 189670305,189681264,2018-10-16 18:18:12,">>189670305 This meme is complete bullshit. All women want Chad. Any woman that wants the nerdy introverted guy is only with him for his money. t. roastie",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1539713892 189670305,189681296,2018-10-16 18:18:41,">>189680708 I did, with reading the stats. They are unhappy, diseased, they spread their illness and many of them are victims of abuse. They die young and don't spread their genes. The homosexual needs help, not acceptance of their illness. >This is not proof of immorality Yes it is. Self-harm is immoral.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713921 189670305,189681396,2018-10-16 18:19:40,">>189681264 all the workers babes love An-Com chads but then the An-caps go full school shooter at the school dance and take all the babes away in chains",,Anonymous,,,,,1539713980 189670305,189681434,2018-10-16 18:20:05,">>189680565 So whats the reason for me to accept those laws rather than ignoring them? Are you going to use force against me if I disobey? Whats preventing me from hiring another company that will use force if you use force against me? You can have a nice fine court with your own set of laws but if there is nothing forcing me to accept them I can just say fuck your laws. >Seriously this is fucking hilarious Pic related is you right now.",,Anonymous,DJnUSgHUMAAGSce.jpg,rlf8NvopHX+7TiHyHoK7aw==,AR,,1539714005 189670305,189681456,2018-10-16 18:20:18,">>189681150 violence is still a factor in a libertarian society. Its just the rules for it are more clearly defined.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714018 189670305,189681533,2018-10-16 18:21:07,">>189681396 White collar women like minarchist chads. >self-reliant >not on magical goose chase of anarchy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714067 189670305,189681568,2018-10-16 18:21:25,">>189676615 To be fair, if you really are a libertarian or ancap, you shouldn't be part of party of the lolbertarian party. They are an embarrassment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714085 189670305,189681589,2018-10-16 18:21:41,">>189670305 >That image Cringe!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1539714101 189670305,189681590,2018-10-16 18:21:41,">>189670487 fag",,Anonymous,4221342541516.png,gvOrZq6H7QyM/b69SH2Zpw==,US,,1539714101 189670305,189681603,2018-10-16 18:21:48,">>189681004 >It’s actually not. Fascism wants to reach autarky There is nothing wrong with wanting energy independence. It was a goal because they knew war was coming. Autarky isn't possible in most circumstances. Only America is practically truly capable of it. >the issue is that some areas ie desert will not have some resources to reach it. We're not talking about a desert though are we? >The other issue is that fascism promotes women popping out kids every year which will lead to eventual high unemployment that can only be solved by making more jobs which then creates high inflation. That’s not including price controls set on nationally important goods ie bread as opposed to non-insential ie teddy bears Technology creates more jobs and has consistently done so.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539714108 189670305,189681605,2018-10-16 18:21:49,">>189681533 >magical goose chase of anarchy Revolutionary Catalonia nigga all ancaps have is Somalia",,Anonymous,,,,,1539714109 189670305,189681643,2018-10-16 18:22:16,">>189670507 based",,Anonymous,1536108607933.png,Y/V2kZAvtNEQS5ZiUgyqqg==,US,,1539714136 189670305,189681683,2018-10-16 18:22:41,">>189681590 Read the spook books by Nozick",,Anonymous,1DD41F78-2EAC-4DCB-9101-60C2C3A2AB30.jpg,kYzLM5ySGbADOSJER38iqg==,US,,1539714161 189670305,189681779,2018-10-16 18:23:40,">>189681296 They are unhappy, diseased, they spread their illness and many of them are victims of abuse. They die young and don't spread their genes. If they commit a crime against another person, they should punished. However, just being depressed or having a disease isn't enough to condemn someone to death, imprisonment, or what have you. >Self-harm is immoral. What constitutes self-harm? It's kind of ambiguous.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714220 189670305,189681816,2018-10-16 18:24:02,">>189681605 I hope you honestly don't think Somalia is ancap",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1539714242 189670305,189681834,2018-10-16 18:24:12,,,Anonymous,Krugman-Gilligan.jpg,+a/Ef+kD9XfeiLIiXjd0uA==,US,,1539714252 189670305,189681862,2018-10-16 18:24:27,">>189679571 It is still wrong, they should have just made smoking sections overpressurized and ventilated seperately and wholly seperate from non-smoking sections",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714267 189670305,189681944,2018-10-16 18:25:27,,,Anonymous,1525502275106.jpg,Gt39+iksKvL2I+XMTsS/Bg==,US,,1539714327 189670305,189681972,2018-10-16 18:25:47,,,Anonymous,ae46ec25fda1495a723b4bff122cc35a63c509959a8ac670654f22db6b5b194c.jpg,SKLaGCbGxX+50NwghcPI0Q==,US,,1539714347 189670305,189682005,2018-10-16 18:26:06,">>189670305 >read book >read book >QUIT READING BOOKS You are the same faggot who spammed Rothbard earlier aren't you. I mean, good on you, you are really making an effort. I applaud that.",,Anonymous,Girl with the uh oh.jpg,yc61Lok6yBHjJ2tbu8zekw==,FI,,1539714366 189670305,189682018,2018-10-16 18:26:14,,,Anonymous,1525662013968.jpg,NPZ1IPQfBWNllmTVwLieDA==,US,,1539714374 189670305,189682044,2018-10-16 18:26:29,">>189681603 Autarky in the Fasict manifesto is required. It’s a core tenant. Autarky cannot ne reached because of different areas. Some geographical areas like California could get close to it because raw materials are abundant. Breeding is also important in fascism because it is a primary goal to spread influence. Population growth will eventually overtake job growth causing massive unemployment, which is why Nazis thought that having a couple of kids could prevent/slow it down",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714389 189670305,189682051,2018-10-16 18:26:32,,,Anonymous,1505967792729.jpg,Jhip0iYgkt9jJcEqGTYhbw==,US,,1539714392 189670305,189682123,2018-10-16 18:27:29,">>189681605 I’m basque so fuck Catalan. Somalia is plutocratic anarchy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714449 189670305,189682157,2018-10-16 18:27:48,">>189681181 >And fascists love the welfare state Fascism paid people to work. It didn't pay people to do nothing. >Homosexuals are not a problem except for their annoying parades and STD rates (which mostly on affects their own community). You speak of them like they are a separate people. They are OUR people. They are our sons and daughters committed to a life of nihilism, hedonism and death. It is an infection that is promoted and seeps into society. NIMF's like you wont react until it is your own child who becomes affected by it. >Junkies have their addictions exacerbated by state intervention and state failure to clean up its own public property. And how would legalising their habit make it any better? After the opium wars, opium was legal and cheap in China. Their population dropped by a third within a century and their nation collapsed. Drug dealers should be executed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539714468 189670305,189682177,2018-10-16 18:27:58,,,Anonymous,1501468058560.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,US,,1539714478 189670305,189682258,2018-10-16 18:29:00,">>189676615 Party libertarians have killed it for Right Wing libertarians. Fat man and all the other assclowns are fucking plants and they should have been forcibly fucking removed. Libertarianism was never about left wing social degeneracy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714540 189670305,189682271,2018-10-16 18:29:06,"Fascism isnt even an economic system. Their economics are merely an afterthought. Fascism is just a police state that was created as a reaction to a national crisis to maintain the status quo of the aristocracy or the idealized status quo of the past. Its basically a revolution of the aristocracy achieved through scare tactics and populism. In the case of NatSoc the national crisis was losing a war, economic depression and the German revolution which led to the bolshevik revolution in germany and then the reactionary police state to destroy all Jews and bolsheviks leading to concentration camps and war with the soviet union as its literal party platform. why people ideolize it I have no fucking idea. Probably because people just think the Uniforms looked cool or something.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539714546 189670305,189682292,2018-10-16 18:29:16,">>189674610 >lover of cheap and untrue sensationalism Based. Let's read that!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714556 189670305,189682339,2018-10-16 18:29:41,">>189680750 >Fascism is also practical >centralizing all (sry, like 99%, le state capitalism and all that) economic activity in the state is practical >fascist are actually this fucking retarded and devoid of basic understanding of complex systems I can't wait to destroy you people en masse along with your mirror images when the war comes.",,Anonymous,0ub8Xmf.png,M2A8/iieTWpoAZyYyJB9lQ==,US,,1539714581 189670305,189682342,2018-10-16 18:29:43,">>189682123 >im basque nigga you best be on vacation in america otherwise you should quit WE WUZZIN",,Anonymous,,,,,1539714583 189670305,189682404,2018-10-16 18:30:18,">>189682271 Fascism is an economic system. It’s a mixed-market with some centralized planning that respects private property",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714618 189670305,189682453,2018-10-16 18:30:48,">>189675496 This.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714648 189670305,189682532,2018-10-16 18:31:35,">>189682342 Catalans don’t deserve independence after all the backstabbing they have done >let moors in >let French in >harbored socialists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714695 189670305,189682555,2018-10-16 18:31:45,">>189671998 >actions have a morality in themselves which is not based on their consequences. >actions should be judged based on their consequences Either of these are true sometimes, if not both always. Actions do have a morality inherent to itself but the consequences are how we evaluate that morality. If you do something bad, and nothing comes of it. You should be reprimanded. If you do something bad and bad things result, your punishment should be harsher.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714705 189670305,189682566,2018-10-16 18:31:50,">>189682404 fascism is not an economic system. The economy of a fascist state doesnt matter. it just so happened to be a semi-centralized capitalist system in Nazi Germany. Truthfully it doesnt really matter.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539714710 189670305,189682672,2018-10-16 18:32:47,">>189682566 It does matter. The state has to have a private industry with a mixed market that does not have worker unions messing with productivity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714767 189670305,189682691,2018-10-16 18:32:55,">>189675184 >Citing China as an example of a market-based, private law society. lmao you fucking idiot",,Anonymous,235235134666.jpg,1AbhO7em7HTxwMHnm4FuaA==,US,,1539714775 189670305,189682756,2018-10-16 18:33:26,"very hacky oc, but oc nonetheless",,Anonymous,235871571035781.png,jVCsithpXcST/MUupNdEaw==,US,,1539714806 189670305,189682774,2018-10-16 18:33:39,">>189681233 Liberalism is worse. Theoretical communism can never be applied in reality. Tankies inevitably take power and bring about some sort of order. They do heavy damage but their obsession with staying as true to communism as possible leads to economic failure. Liberalism has allowed rape gangs and even punished natives that dare even talk about it let alone oppose it. Liberalism hides it and ignores it. No society in all of human history has allowed foreign invading rape gangs to enslave their own daughters within their own tribe except liberalism. It is unique. Liberalism opens borders to millions. Liberalism allows rampant degeneracy. Communism has never allowed these things. Liberalism is worse than communism. Communism may have killed 100's of millions, but hundreds of millions will also die when a globalised liberal world collapses.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539714819 189670305,189682901,2018-10-16 18:34:49,">>189682672 I agree that unions are suppressed but whether its centrally planned or free market under fascism is irrelevant. Also the reason for suppressing unions is not done out of economics but out of power under a fascist state so again whatever economic system they use doesnt truthfully matter.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539714889 189670305,189683069,2018-10-16 18:36:28,">>189673988 Because it's a rhetorical question.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539714988 189670305,189683106,2018-10-16 18:36:48,">>189682157 >Fascism paid people to work. It didn't pay people to do nothing. Not all jobs are created equal. They must create value to be worthwhile. Eventually you run out of infrastructure that needs building. >They are our sons and daughters committed to a life of nihilism, hedonism and death. Only a fraction of them. >It is an infection that is promoted and seeps into society. I don't know if you realize this, but you can't catch the gay. >And how would legalising their habit make it any better? First, it would deal a major blow to organized crime. It would lower the price so they wouldn't have to resort to crime to pay for their addiction. More focus could be put on curing them of their addiction instead of imprisoning them and ruining their future prospects. >After the opium wars, opium was legal and cheap in China. Their population dropped by a third within a century and their nation collapsed. No it didn't.",,Anonymous,1509601053700.png,rPQB+8BS0rS8lQba+rTz1w==,US,,1539715008 189670305,189683126,2018-10-16 18:37:01,">>189682691 Read this you fucking retard if you dont understand my point,maybe its too complex and it went over your head >>189676876 Whats your,speak you mutt.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1539715021 189670305,189683144,2018-10-16 18:37:10,">>189682774 The US has never accepted liberalism. The US has always been a constitutional republic which is at odds with liberal democracy. US was a minarchist country now is a big government republic. Democracies don’t have constitutions. It is what mainly separates liberal democracies from constitutional republics >>189682901 The whole point of suppressing unions was to prevent actual soviets (what Soviet means) from holding companies at gun point to make them decide how profit should be used. Capitalists and Fascists agree that profits are best decided on how to use them by management",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539715030 189670305,189683178,2018-10-16 18:37:31,">>189681779 >If they commit a crime against another person, they should punished. However, just being depressed or having a disease isn't enough to condemn someone to death, imprisonment, or what have you. It's a mental illness and should be treated as such. The same as suicide. >What constitutes self-harm? It's kind of ambiguous. No it isn't. Sodomy has been illegal throughout history for thousands of years. No doctor in the world will say it is healthy to put things in your anus. There are almost no happy elderly gays. Statistics I've read show that most gay men in the 50's 'become straight'. I suspect it is due to their inability to find a stable partner. They get lonely. I don't like this treatment of homosexuality as if it is a norm or that it is healthy. I don't want my children to be gay and I, as a good member of my community, don't want other children to suffer the same.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539715051 189670305,189683233,2018-10-16 18:37:58,">>189682672 >unions are what mess with productivity Look, I'm no fan of unions, at least the way they have existed historically and presently, but if you're telling me that fascism does not have productivity problems because it lacks UNIONS... I mean fuck, dude. In Nazi Germany THEY WERE LITERALLY BUYING TRUCKS JUST FOR THE TIRES BECAUSE THERE WERE TIRE SHORTAGES THANKS TO THE STATE'S REGULATORY REGIME. They would scrap the trucks and use the tires. That is a direct result of central-planning and regulatory control.",,Anonymous,1534661030133.jpg,r8Xrj2/Qy12HrF+S2+nBOQ==,US,,1539715078 189670305,189683240,2018-10-16 18:38:04,>>189682258,,Anonymous,1537387676561.jpg,Eu1DgRS3FePr6L9Rjr96Dg==,US,,1539715084 189670305,189683268,2018-10-16 18:38:20,">>189681434 You choose the laws you want to follow I won't force you to follow anything, that's the concept of polycentric law. Then it's up to courts to find a compromise between the two parties. That's how it's done even today between countries, when there's disputes between a frenchman and a german things eventually do get settled even if you have no idea how. This is what happens with polycentric law, also using me as a source for learning shit you know nothing about is pretty sad, senpai, you could read a lot of books on the subject instead of making up stupid scenarios and asking me to explain lengthy topics in 4chan posts",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1539715100 189670305,189683277,2018-10-16 18:38:24,>>189683240,,Anonymous,1537387603785.jpg,u9UrNWqOK3IxSTpmrocgsA==,US,,1539715104 189670305,189683371,2018-10-16 18:39:21,">>189682774 your idea of socialism is very flawed and one dimensional. Theres like 20 different economic systems under the umbrella of socialism that are all nuanced in their own way. USSR had state socialism which used the state to centrally plan and redistribute everything which basically everyone except the Stalinists regarded as complete shit and a waste of the revolution because they realized it was just a police state. The arguement for state socialism at the time was pretty much that the USSR didnt actually have the production means at the time to fully provide for every good and service in surplus which is necessary in a socialist system so they tried to speed up the process a good century faster with all of the crazy centrally planned state industrial programs",,Anonymous,,,,,1539715161 189670305,189683412,2018-10-16 18:39:50,">>189682018 >(((Gdp)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539715190 189670305,189683415,2018-10-16 18:39:53,">>189682044 >Autarky in the Fasict manifesto is required. It’s a core tenant. It isn't. Fascism is a worldview, not a strict set of policies. >Population growth will eventually overtake job growth causing massive unemployment Luddism >which is why Nazis thought that having a couple of kids could prevent/slow it down This isn't even a problem and never has been. Our current problem is a lack of children. Italy had a too few children. Germany quadrupled their birth rates.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539715193 189670305,189683499,2018-10-16 18:40:34,">>189683233 The whole issue is that unions increase the cost of workers which increase the cost of goods. Fascism attempted to solve this problem by basically virtually outlawing them with a few exceptions in trade-unions and co-ops.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539715234 189670305,189683529,2018-10-16 18:40:50,">>189683144 under Nazism yes, the unions were supressed for 2 reasons, one being because unified workers threaten the power of the regime, and 2 they would probably have some bolshevik influence considering the revolution was just a decade or so ago and Nazism is an aristocratic revolution against the failed revolution of the bolsheviks",,Anonymous,,,,,1539715250 189670305,189683551,2018-10-16 18:41:02,"I wish I could stay boys but I gotta wake up early tomorrow, I love these threads, OP keep making them (and earlier if you can next time)",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1539715262 189670305,189683574,2018-10-16 18:41:17,">>189679690 Nice massive leaps of faith",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1539715277 189670305,189683624,2018-10-16 18:41:48,">>189683126 No I get your point. Without government regulations, we'd have horrible pollution, which is a baseless assertion with no supporting evidence whatsoever. You do not need regulations to stop pollution. You need simple tort law and private property. If land/resources are owned, then you cannot pollute them without the owner's consent. Good luck getting everyone to sell you pollution rights to their property. You also provided a photo of an event occurring in a massive quasi-fascist state as an example of a market failure, because as I said you are a dumb Argentinian monkey person. The more government there is, the more pollution there is. Freer societies have less environmental degradation. This has been true throughout history in every single instance. It's called the tragedy of the commons, fuckwhit. The government DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK if it pollutes, because it has no incentive to. It gets your money and it has total dominion over its region. A private owner DOES give a fuck if his property is polluted, because pollution would theoretically reduce its value/utility, and they do not have a steady stream of guaranteed income from a captive cattle base.",,Anonymous,1532739201675.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,US,,1539715308 189670305,189683784,2018-10-16 18:43:25,">>189683574 >Let's give control over our lives to a giant coercive monopoly I'm sure things will turn out fine you people who want freedom are so naive lollllll kys",,Anonymous,1532316395091.jpg,U6AvaB6iDyDmFaCstjVwmg==,US,,1539715405 189670305,189683800,2018-10-16 18:43:35,">>189683178 Gays have existed since forever. They aren't a problem. You just think it's gross (which is perfectly natural) so you want it banned (not perfectly natural). How hard is it to just be an adult, mind your business, and not associate with gays?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539715415 189670305,189683850,2018-10-16 18:44:03,">>189682339 You wont do shit. We dominated this board and others like it through sheer argument alone. You lost. Now you use our emetic language, you capitulate to our ideas. Libertarianism is a dead meme and the Fascistic worldview is more popular than ever. If you want to have your big patch of farmland with your wife and kids, we wont disturb you. I support home schooling.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539715443 189670305,189683851,2018-10-16 18:44:04,">>189683415 It’s a core tenant in fascist economics. Relying on outside goods in order to provide essential goods was the way for fascism to prevent other nations influencing it. Mussolini as well as hitler in their doctorines spelled out autarky as the ultimate goal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539715444 189670305,189683910,2018-10-16 18:44:38,">>189682404 Fascism is a worldview, not an economic system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539715478 189670305,189683929,2018-10-16 18:44:46,">>189683624 >If land/resources are owned, then you cannot pollute them without the owner's consent. Good luck getting everyone to sell you pollution rights to their property. Your entire ideology can be derailed by one ecofreak claiming you can't polute their air.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1539715486 189670305,189683963,2018-10-16 18:45:02,">>189683268 So you admit there is no reason for me to follow the law,as I said in my example that I posted earlier Ican just dont give a fuck about your laws and ignore them,that is why im calling you retarded,you are not teaching me anything,you are just making a fool out of yourself. >If someone polluted the air and water just sue them,we will create a private system of laws that you have no reason to follow also if you are stronger than me you dont have to follow them,im teaching you by sharing my ancap wisdom.Read some books and my retarded system will make more sense.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1539715502 189670305,189684036,2018-10-16 18:45:40,">>189683784 >my logic was shown to be bad, therefore let's criticize some unrelated strawman Can't tell you faggots from socialists sometimes",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1539715540 189670305,189684043,2018-10-16 18:45:44,">>189683910 No, it’s a political system that has a specific world view. Read the manifesto. It calls for abolishing the senate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539715544 189670305,189684215,2018-10-16 18:47:20,">>189683850 >You won't do shit. That's what you think, buddy. We've been training innawoods for at least half a century for just this thing. You've been gaining weight and were a blue-pilled liberal 5 years ago. Everyone hates you. You have no allies. Half of your ranks are ironic shitposters who don't actually give a shit about your meme ideology.",,Anonymous,1531796115748.jpg,YUqimQgJ5ZYS/3OWfKXecA==,US,,1539715640 189670305,189684317,2018-10-16 18:48:15,">>189684036 Wow you must be pretty stupid not to be able to see the clear, direct counter-argument embedded in my greentext. Of course you're stupid, you're a statist.",,Anonymous,1532100053317.jpg,wFi1Qd+jRnN1SHO3da+MYg==,US,,1539715695 189670305,189684347,2018-10-16 18:48:31,">>189684036 Where do you show anything?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1539715711 189670305,189684358,2018-10-16 18:48:35,,,Anonymous,1517048552371.jpg,5PkC92jZKA5+VViGiYFC0Q==,US,,1539715715 189670305,189684386,2018-10-16 18:48:47,">>189684215 I mean I hate ancaps a lot but I definitely hate fascists more",,Anonymous,,,,,1539715727 189670305,189684465,2018-10-16 18:49:34,">>189673354 >>189673202 This fucking thread Only libertarian cucks and women would sit down and feed these two views as conflicting or worth time considering at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539715774 189670305,189684467,2018-10-16 18:49:33,">>189684358 Silly ancaps",,Anonymous,A7D6513A-6346-43BE-8EF0-669847B4C42F.jpg,YJCJLYj4b0luBeWRGtEfUA==,US,,1539715773 189670305,189684519,2018-10-16 18:50:06,">>189683144 >The US has never accepted liberalism. The US has always been a constitutional republic which is at odds with liberal democracy. US was a minarchist country now is a big government republic. Democracies don’t have constitutions. It is what mainly separates liberal democracies from constitutional republics The US was founded by Liberals. It now allows the mass rape of its daughters and allows 5th column foreigners to control urban areas without state oversight. It's uniquely liberal. >Theres like 20 different economic systems under the umbrella of socialism that are all nuanced in their own way. And there have been 48 variations of socialism enforced via the state. All ended the same with billionaire leaders, economic failure and an inability to achieve 'true communism'. All became tankies, but none let foreign invaders rape their women. Partly because foreigners didn't want to live there because they were shit holes, and also due to strong borders preventing their own people leaving. >USSR had state socialism which used the state to centrally plan and redistribute everything which basically everyone except the Stalinists regarded as complete shit and a waste of the revolution because they realized it was just a police state. And this consistently occurred 48 different times. >The arguement for state socialism at the time was pretty much that the USSR didnt actually have the production means at the time to fully provide for every good and service in surplus which is necessary in a socialist system so they tried to speed up the process a good century faster with all of the crazy centrally planned state industrial programs And this is the argument modern trots make. It's the same argument as the people from the 1960s. Now they claim automation will make socialism possible. It will end the same way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539715806 189670305,189684784,2018-10-16 18:52:32,,,Anonymous,cmfsn9s.jpg,ioSrSM80TvbA5r5vwpB83w==,US,,1539715952 189670305,189684830,2018-10-16 18:52:50,">>189674610 >the virgin yellow press reader >the chad morning leader reader wow memes are timeless",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1539715970 189670305,189684963,2018-10-16 18:54:02,">>189683800 >Gays have existed since forever. In seedy dark corners in very very small numbers. >They aren't a problem. You just think it's gross (which is perfectly natural) so you want it banned (not perfectly natural). How hard is it to just be an adult, mind your business, and not associate with gays? My reasoning was solid and I brought up a myriad of stats. It wasn't just 'gross'. It's immoral for good young men and women with happy futures destroyed by an illness. Acceptance and promotion of this illness has allowed to spread, and now more are affected by it. This cannot be allowed to continue.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716042 189670305,189684996,2018-10-16 18:54:18,">>189684519 Classical liberals, populists and pro-minarchists founded the US. Liberal democracies cannot have a constitution. Constitutions are exclusive to republics. Constitutional republics up to this point are born from Minarchy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716058 189670305,189685006,2018-10-16 18:54:24,">>189684519 it was the argument trotsky and all the other opponents to stalin said as it was fucking happening. they were pissed from the start not 30 years after the fact. And automation and production surplus was always required for a socialist society. What baffled marxists was how socialist first popped up in Russia and not a fully industrialized nation at the time like Britain There have been a number of other socialist revolutions or coming to power where they didnt enact state socialism and instead did other things variations of socialism but they all got blown the fuck up by America so theres not much to conclude from them other than ""big country beat little country in war""",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716064 189670305,189685086,2018-10-16 18:55:08,">>189684519 >The US was founded by Liberals. It now allows the mass rape of its daughters and allows 5th column foreigners to control urban areas without state oversight. It's uniquely liberal. A failure due to how the Constitution was written, a mistaken view that Jews are White, and Protestant Christianity.",,Anonymous,1507342346012.png,6EjPcmOBpqKCNCRlcKaPKA==,US,,1539716108 189670305,189685191,2018-10-16 18:55:56,">>189684215 The masses will capitulate to the fascist paradigm as conservatism fails. You will kiss the ring of power like those before you. You did nothing before and you will do nothing in the future. You are not something to be feared in any way whatsoever. You're an irrelevance.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716156 189670305,189685203,2018-10-16 18:56:02,">>189684963 >In seedy dark corners in very very small numbers They're in ""seedy dark corners"" relative to you at almost all times. The issue is that you want to be in a political union with them, when the solution is to have nothing to do with them whatsoever.",,Praceteom,,,US,,1539716162 189670305,189685228,2018-10-16 18:56:13,">>189684317 The ""counterargument"" being a wild, vague condemnation of statism completely unrelated to the critique of natural rights I made? You might as well call the ancap meme flag and argument",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1539716173 189670305,189685304,2018-10-16 18:57:04,">>189685006 Socialists were sponsored by the families of the Robber Barrons and rich Jews based in New York City. Rockefellers funded the bolschs by giving them money to overthrow the Czar because the Czar wouldn’t allow them to invest in Russia",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716224 189670305,189685353,2018-10-16 18:57:27,"but if theres no strong government how am i supposed to enforce my religion on everyone your system sucks balls guys",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1539716247 189670305,189685405,2018-10-16 18:57:54,">>189685353 Peace and Love",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716274 189670305,189685408,2018-10-16 18:57:56,">>189683851 >It’s a core tenant in fascist economics. Relying on outside goods in order to provide essential goods was the way for fascism to prevent other nations influencing it. Mussolini as well as hitler in their doctorines spelled out autarky as the ultimate goal And it's a goal that cannot be truly achieved. They never reached true autarky. It is a good aim, but a difficult one. Investment into automation and alternative energy would be a good step. Resource independence is part of the worldview, but only one of principle, rather than practicality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716276 189670305,189685481,2018-10-16 18:58:46,">>189685408 Full Resource independence is autarky",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716326 189670305,189685585,2018-10-16 18:59:46,">>189685405 doesn't work they just keep going on with ""to each his own"" crap",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1539716386 189670305,189685671,2018-10-16 19:00:37,">>189685585 Jihad?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716437 189670305,189685683,2018-10-16 19:00:41,">>189685191 Not if the socialists overthrow the government first :^) >>189685304 Americans fought against the Reds in the october revolution. Americans shot workers on strike during this time and jailed union leaders or had them executed",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716441 189670305,189685744,2018-10-16 19:01:14,">>189684963 >In seedy dark corners in very very small numbers. Rome and Greece. >My reasoning was solid and I brought up a myriad of stats. It wasn't just 'gross'. It's immoral for good young men and women with happy futures destroyed by an illness. The majority of gays don't have those problems. >Acceptance and promotion of this illness has allowed to spread, and now more are affected by it. This cannot be allowed to continue. Again, you can't catch gayness. I honestly just don't give a shit about them. There are gays fucking all around the world right now, and it doesn't affect me one bit. And after all, I am a party of ""society"" too.",,Anonymous,1519872245257.jpg,Kr4dfm/NVYlXfiuRRNK4OQ==,US,,1539716474 189670305,189685812,2018-10-16 19:01:51,">>189685683 I was talking about Russian Soviets. American socialism was funded by white middle class bourgeois memebers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716511 189670305,189685903,2018-10-16 19:02:34,">>189685671 not permissible in my religion, i meant about policing those who live under your own state which you silly geese want to prevent",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1539716554 189670305,189685932,2018-10-16 19:02:52,">>189685812 yes but im explaining that nobody was in favor of the soviets in america at the time. America supported the whites in the october revolution and even send soldiers over there im pretty sure",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716572 189670305,189686088,2018-10-16 19:04:13,">>189685903 Inquisition. Spanish Inquisition was sposonered by the pope not the crown therefore violent priests could enforce religion without government interference",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716653 189670305,189686168,2018-10-16 19:05:09,">>189685932 Yes, but the bolschs got funding from New York families.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716709 189670305,189686219,2018-10-16 19:05:40,">>189686088 states helped out, its not fair that you deny them their contribution to the cause",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1539716740 189670305,189686270,2018-10-16 19:06:12,">>189684996 >Classical liberals Yes, Liberals. It is a Liberal system. I don't care what autistic version you call it, it's under the umbrella of liberalism, where Liberty is is the prime principle. Just because your theoretical society didn't turn out the way you wanted doesn't mean it isn't part of the same hypothesis. You tell communists that their socities are communist. You remind them that their theory was tested in reality, and they deny they were true communists. You don't get to make the same dumb claim as them. The West is Liberal. The US is founded on the purest Liberal ideals. Our prime principle is Order. Our prime goal is to protect our people from harm. You put Liberty over Order and now your daughters are being raped by foreign invaders. That is uniquely liberal. >What baffled marxists was how socialist first popped up in Russia and not a fully industrialized nation at the time like Britain Jews >There have been a number of other socialist revolutions or coming to power where they didnt enact state socialism and instead did other things variations of socialism but they all got blown the fuck up by America so theres not much to conclude from them other than ""big country beat little country in war"" They either failed economically, socially or militarily. >A failure due to how the Constitution was written, a mistaken view that Jews are White, and Protestant Christianity. Indeed. But the constitution is still dictated by those who interpret it. The Jews would have wormed their way in regardless due to this interpretation. It is after all what occurred. Some Jews from E Europe were denied citizenship, and it was a Liberal Judge that reinterpreted the law that gave them citizenship. Liberty should not come before Order.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716772 189670305,189686291,2018-10-16 19:06:26,">>189685191 Quit trying to turn this into a cringe thread.",,Anonymous,1530651966293.gif,jUgQUugmS3d8WyaAnFf4gw==,US,,1539716786 189670305,189686329,2018-10-16 19:06:46,">>189671588 >88",,Anonymous,donald doubles.jpg,+yC/K/WzV/5podX7mHCalg==,,,1539716806 189670305,189686353,2018-10-16 19:07:01,">>189686219 Literally the crown only helped by housing the prisoners. Mercenaries paid for by the grand inquisitionor picked up all the heretics. The crown went along because it was “best for business”",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716821 189670305,189686390,2018-10-16 19:07:23,">>189685683 >Not if the socialists overthrow the government first :^) By all means. Every single socialist uprising in the West always leads to Fascism. I welcome your inevitable failure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716843 189670305,189686392,2018-10-16 19:07:23,">>189686168 if that were the case those families likely wouldve been arrested at the time",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716843 189670305,189686401,2018-10-16 19:07:28,">We must give unlimited power to the State! - Some naive faggot.",,Anonymous,big-brother-1984.jpg,YlYqZXO7X5b9J2cYA9V/0Q==,US,,1539716848 189670305,189686459,2018-10-16 19:08:01,>>189685191,,Anonymous,5616515641200012.jpg,kkaUdxTIW1wlGeMqBnd1mA==,US,,1539716881 189670305,189686542,2018-10-16 19:08:53,">>189685203 >implying the promotion of their filth doesn't create more of them >implying they aren't forcing this on children",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716933 189670305,189686554,2018-10-16 19:08:59,">>189675184 >If there were no laws preventing pollution then there is no reason for companies to spend millons in not polluting. >truely retarded argument",,Anonymous,9819848198.jpg,LwBVE0ELRBGG8I2Sf0fjFA==,,,1539716939 189670305,189686562,2018-10-16 19:09:03,">>189686392 Rockefellers owned standard oil. One flick and all the oil is gone from the market. Plus money can buy freedom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716943 189670305,189686599,2018-10-16 19:09:22,">>189670538 Right, that's why Leftypol is almost nothing but zoophilia and shotacon right? Fuck off pedo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539716962 189670305,189686640,2018-10-16 19:09:44,">>189671150 They are both TV-people NPC's. So.. right on..",,Anonymous,,,,,1539716984 189670305,189686681,2018-10-16 19:10:12,">>189686542 your posts in this thread make me ashamed that people mix up our ideologies all the time",,Anonymous,,,,,1539717012 189670305,189686728,2018-10-16 19:10:44,">>189686542 You're promoting faggotry or something?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1539717044 189670305,189686735,2018-10-16 19:10:46,">>189672951 Antifas are NPC's that program other NPCs",,Anonymous,antiiberal2.jpg,rj6mFixm4jWdx8MrYLnH6w==,,,1539717046 189670305,189686755,2018-10-16 19:10:58,">>189686353 i know Church did bulk of the job i just want to mention that state helped out, in the end it couldnt be done without them spain is pretty awesome in general, its sad that it ended, but in the end we did a good job",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1539717058 189670305,189686833,2018-10-16 19:11:49,">>189686270 Minarchy is the further limitation of liberalism. German philosophy best explained it. Liberalism bows to tyranny of majority and or minority. Minarchy is based on maximizing freedom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539717109 189670305,189686836,2018-10-16 19:11:50,">>189677812 >what you actually are",,Anonymous,s0yg0y of cuckkad.jpg,yX++xmNuZolm7uFrP3AhzA==,,,1539717110 189670305,189686869,2018-10-16 19:12:09,">>189685744 >Rome and Greece. This has been debunked so many times. Greek citizens weren't allowed to be homo. Any homo interaction was between an owner and a slave. That's rape. >The majority of gays don't have those problems. Then why do they die 20 years younger than everyone else. >Again, you can't catch gayness. I honestly just don't give a shit about them. There are gays fucking all around the world right now, and it doesn't affect me one bit. And after all, I am a party of ""society"" too. And yet there are more gays than ever before. I don't want my son or daughter to be gay and in a good society, all families ensure no ones child is gay.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539717129 189670305,189686922,2018-10-16 19:12:40,">>189686755 Literally the state did nothing because the church paid them for their services.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539717160 189670305,189686944,2018-10-16 19:12:53,">>189686599 i mean if leftypol has the goal of attracting people from pol there then that seems like a pretty good way to do it they know the audience therye trying to attract",,Anonymous,,,,,1539717173 189670305,189687032,2018-10-16 19:13:48,">>189686869 In the Delphi league it was okay to be gay, but not in the friends of Sparta coalition. Rome was okay with gayness as long as you kept it private",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539717228 189670305,189687157,2018-10-16 19:14:58,">>189686922 state did the most imporatant thing - let it happen which is pretty ironically a good argument against this whole general",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1539717298 189670305,189687284,2018-10-16 19:16:13,">>189674671 Sure you own your own private property and can do what you want on it, but if you burn trash and the smoke and pollution violates my private property rights I'm going to retaliate.",,Anonymous,1530973326056.png,jxiBn1HeO3vf+iMCY8yepQ==,,,1539717373 189670305,189687318,2018-10-16 19:16:28,">>189687157 You said you need a strong government to enforce religion. You just contradicted yourself. If the state doesn’t care about religion and wants no part then you don’t need a state to enforce religion. You just need tons of money, weapons and man-power",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539717388 189670305,189687438,2018-10-16 19:17:41,">>189687318 my point was if you have a minimal state and jsut let people live their lives people like me are gonna appear and take over",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1539717461 189670305,189687692,2018-10-16 19:19:57,">>189687318 also money weapons and men will get you so far, but state is needed to properly stabilize and institutionalize without the state anyone else can appear at his whim and push for his own rights and ideas and freedom which is not good",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1539717597 189670305,189687843,2018-10-16 19:21:26,">>189686681 Here comes the LARP'r, capitulating to opposing worldviews. Look at you, virtue signalling to anarchists. National Socialism is Fascism. Fascism is the worldview, National Socialism is political expression of that worldview. I am a National Socialist, but 'Fascist' is more succinct. If you have a problem with what I have said, then argue it. Don't virtue signal about it to others you fucking coward.",,Anonymous,gob annoyed.jpg,Y/7KLyn6bVO9HAhETEvr3A==,,,1539717686 189670305,189688019,2018-10-16 19:23:16,">>189677812 >>189678263 ""Live and let live"" and the Petersen quote are EXACTLY what Libertarianism is about. Retarded stormniggers managing to worm their way in is an absolute fucking disgrace. Libertarianism is incompatible with your neo-tribal niggerdry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539717796 189670305,189688041,2018-10-16 19:23:30,">>189687032 >as long as you kept it private Then it wasn't ok, was it? What a silly thing to say.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539717810 189670305,189688139,2018-10-16 19:24:23,>>189687843,,Anonymous,goebbels-dead.jpg,WFiJAOqE6UW3qD3T1+qREA==,,,1539717863 189670305,189688509,2018-10-16 19:27:48,">>189688019 >Retarded stormniggers managing to worm their way in is an absolute fucking disgrace. It's inevitable. Your arguments didn't hold weight in an open free speech environment. Now lolbergs capitulate to our ideals in order to convert people. Why are lolbergs so unpopular on /pol/? Surely, in a free speech environment you would dominate. Yet you don't. You got BTFO.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539718068 189670305,189688712,2018-10-16 19:29:35,">>189688139 Nothing you say can change history. You lost, and you will lose again. The death of liberalism will bring about the birth of Fascism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1539718175 189670305,189689529,2018-10-16 19:38:03,">>189688712 Whose boot are you looking to lick? Which superior human are you wanting to bow to and take it in the ass on behalf of?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1539718683 189670305,189689686,2018-10-16 19:39:55,">>189689529 >boot licker Go back to your anarcho communist reddit",,Anonymous,,,,,1539718795 189670305,189689893,2018-10-16 19:42:13,">>189689686 You want a monolithic state. So who is that? Surely you have glorious wise leaders IN MIND, right? You wouldn't just be advocating an open-ended ""we just need good rulers xD"" - with NO ONE you can even THINK OF fitting that bill - right?",,Praceteom,,,US,,1539718933 189670305,189689925,2018-10-16 19:42:24,">>189687843 >National Socialism is Fascism jeez do you read the things you type out Im sorry but Mussolini allowed jews in Italy until Hitler came along and reformed your ass. Fascism is literally proto-civicnationalism",,Anonymous,1498843504348.jpg,G08qVP60BQ75q6BvENq3fw==,,,1539718944 189670305,189689975,2018-10-16 19:43:01,"Why so much hate ITT? Why can't we hash these differences out once every last communist has been physically removed from a helicopter in flight? >mfw no privately owned defence contractors to gas Jews and degenerates...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1539718981 189670305,189690267,2018-10-16 19:46:01,">>189689975 Nazi larpers aren't morally distinguishable from commies, in that what they fundamentally want is the violent subjugation of people who aren't on board with their ""program"".",,Praceteom,,,US,,1539719161 193519121,193519121,2018-11-15 09:17:45,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,1484429674775.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,,,1542273465 193519121,193519907,2018-11-15 09:27:56,,,Anonymous,1496446969810.jpg,q+9kNL9L3I6RWt+48SXV6g==,,,1542274076 193519121,193521280,2018-11-15 09:46:49,,,Anonymous,1462979988963.png,u5JUHTBjt1ZptLZtAw8bnA==,,,1542275209 193655678,193655678,2018-11-16 13:20:56,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty ((((Murray Rothbard)))) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL,Anonymous,A1FE3F47-ABBA-4814-9869-0D3627670329.png,VG0iIGxG23czvW4XG+r+xw==,,,1542374456 193655678,193655782,2018-11-16 13:22:02,Monarchism is the best system.,,Anonymous,9 kings 1910.jpg,lElRaDxvAYH+rUvV3sZgkQ==,ES,,1542374522 193655678,193657892,2018-11-16 13:47:39,">>193655782 No step on snake",,Anonymous,,,US,,1542376059 193655678,193658604,2018-11-16 13:56:35,Bump because it's criminal this isn't higher up in catalog considering what's in there at the moment.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1542376595 193655678,193659534,2018-11-16 14:07:38,Anyone who posts under me is gggaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy,,Anonymous,,,US,,1542377258 194010623,194010623,2018-11-20 01:54:36,"We just got shoa'd by long-nosed discord mods edition. All right wing libertarian refugees post here so we can rebuild our 2 year old group. PexPsE",Libertarian Right General - /lrg/,Anonymous,lrgicon.png,JMVMYDKs0IRn/iU22+XnTA==,US,United States,1542678876 194010623,194010698,2018-11-20 01:55:31,LRG FOREVER,,Anonymous,1502720028647.jpg,gz9AwQY8h9UjgPeoWvk/fw==,US,United States,1542678931 194010623,194010724,2018-11-20 01:55:46,,,Anonymous,ami.jpg,4FPlJuMLViI7vhN7SqWkzQ==,US,United States,1542678946 194010623,194010734,2018-11-20 01:55:53,">>194010623 Bump",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1542678953 194010623,194010756,2018-11-20 01:56:09,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1542678969 194010623,194010805,2018-11-20 01:56:43,>>194010623,,Anonymous,1535416515650.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,US,United States,1542679003 194010623,194010833,2018-11-20 01:57:04,,,Anonymous,mods16.png,sJEc3uofirbTxKYXzLVaFQ==,US,United States,1542679024 194010623,194010874,2018-11-20 01:57:27,Anyone read Meltdown by Tom Woods? Just started it. Have America's Great Depression on the way.,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1542679047 194010623,194010897,2018-11-20 01:57:37,>>194010724,,Anonymous,dawnoflibertopia.png,xeoTqCB/e8N5fWvNrPxExQ==,US,United States,1542679057 194010623,194010920,2018-11-20 01:57:49,,,Anonymous,CVQXxOOU4AAEO-z.jpg,QpZepkS0EUR4fEdd/5JrmQ==,US,United States,1542679069 194010623,194010981,2018-11-20 01:58:34,"Welcome back, fags. Have you grown up a bit more and taken the ruby pill?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1542679114 194010623,194010989,2018-11-20 01:58:39,Fucking hebrews,,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1542679119 194010623,194011121,2018-11-20 02:00:03,bumps,,Anonymous,,,,Black Lives Matter,1542679203 194010623,194011172,2018-11-20 02:00:39,"Don't forget to read the classics lads, they may not be Ancaps or Voluntaryists but they laid the foundation of our ideas and their arguments form an important train of thought and history of Liberty in the world.",,Anonymous,lrg.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542679239 194010623,194011224,2018-11-20 02:01:14,,,Anonymous,bastiat-quote.jpg,zREj6YZNX3cIky9DX3Jeog==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542679274 194010623,194011240,2018-11-20 02:01:21,,,Anonymous,1511983035753.jpg,UYNq/dEyyNfmRv12ngH0AQ==,US,United States,1542679281 194010623,194011264,2018-11-20 02:01:37,We must rebuild. this thread is of thre highest political importance. be kind mods. until then this thread is for discussion of libertarianism and the rebuilding of historic /lrg/,,Anonymous,unknown.png,YXnQvS3Ujlk6XmeTY7UG3Q==,US,United States,1542679297 194010623,194011411,2018-11-20 02:03:08,">>194010981 We're only more radical than before",,Anonymous,kickthembothout.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,US,United States,1542679388 194010623,194011500,2018-11-20 02:04:05,LRG IS BLORK CONTROLLED TERRITORY,,Anonymous,blork.png,28UamCkJFZMlCUJZzNqqFg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542679445 194010623,194011596,2018-11-20 02:05:03,">>194011172 Is that Bastiatfroge?",,Anonymous,,,SE,Sweden,1542679503 194010623,194011813,2018-11-20 02:07:30,Where my Libertarian Monarchists at,,Anonymous,09BF151C-FFC5-4F66-996A-A03A50D497C3.jpg,3J7ydCk0WZCA7+Z/nnbumw==,,Confederate,1542679650 194010623,194012035,2018-11-20 02:10:08,,,Anonymous,1513191214599.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542679808 194010623,194012073,2018-11-20 02:10:30,">>194011411 Have you figured it out yet? The golden troof?",,Anonymous,1539884707041.jpg,21e/AuOpbn99fro3dq6Rxg==,US,United States,1542679830 194010623,194012087,2018-11-20 02:10:41,,,Anonymous,1509906925394.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542679841 194010623,194012141,2018-11-20 02:11:16,>it's all so tiresome,,Anonymous,1513465729388.jpg,u61hePWhUZrltwGK6gYmjQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542679876 194010623,194012243,2018-11-20 02:12:23,"You guys used to talk at length about lots of stuff like praxeology, Austrian economics, crypto, anti-IP and the like, usually with book links any everything, but the threads really died down after the immigration debates and just devolved into memes later on. What's there left to do in libertarian land on /pol/?",,Anonymous,,,,Pirate,1542679943 194010623,194012301,2018-11-20 02:13:06,"please dont shitpost. it is important that we maintain our threads untill we reach a stable server. post libertarian propaganda",,Anonymous,8 LEVELS OF CONTROL.png,Tviuypkfya9mEXyfsE5xyg==,US,United States,1542679986 194010623,194012328,2018-11-20 02:13:24,Mfw discord kikes start in on us,,Anonymous,Hitler and Mussolini.png,ZbQf5/whfb+dl9AG7blGeA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542680004 194010623,194012365,2018-11-20 02:13:45,faggot retards,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1542680025 194010623,194012411,2018-11-20 02:14:21,">>194010623 LOLbertarians support trap-tier degeneracy and open borders. Why anyone would want to be a LOLbertarian is beyond me.",,Anonymous,,,,Fascist,1542680061 194010623,194012477,2018-11-20 02:15:04,">>194011813 Im not a libertarian monarchist but I did make this",,Anonymous,ancapmonarchy.png,78PzxR1Tgm4xWvUTjOJLyg==,US,United States,1542680104 194010623,194012490,2018-11-20 02:15:15,,,Anonymous,1509899426820.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542680115 194010623,194012511,2018-11-20 02:15:31,">>194012243 Shitpost at the ancoms that wander in",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1542680131 194010623,194012531,2018-11-20 02:15:47,>>194012301,,Anonymous,DignityFTDR.png,H931nyQT8ZLf7X1TW5QIWw==,US,United States,1542680147 194010623,194012596,2018-11-20 02:16:33,,,Anonymous,serious 1.png,BCz0g4otwsJ5yfWbcQUuhA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542680193 194010623,194012688,2018-11-20 02:17:33,">>194012596 Please no discord screencaps",,Anonymous,commonforceisntgood.jpg,biHs1i+ls38rpTBZGgreow==,US,United States,1542680253 194010623,194012905,2018-11-20 02:19:44,"Poop eating beginner's guide: If you want to try it yourself, the best thing would be to get the diet right in the beginning. If it taste bad on your first try, you're not likely to go further. Get what I'm saying? With the right diet you can really improve your poop play experience. I can give you some tips you can try out when you have time. Any very acidic food will make poop taste sour. And very acidic drinks will make pee and poop taste sour and acidic. Any very solid and hard to digest food, such as raw vegetables will make poop very sour because it increases stomach acid to dissolve it. Tips= don't eat any hard raw vegetables at all: makes poop sulphuric. Don't eat fish: highly acidic and sour, smells like well... fish =) Don't eat any nuts seeds nor grained bread just its bad for texture and it causes sulphuric proteins to from in poop. The softer or the more easily dissolvable a food is in plain water the better it is for scat play. The less acidic and the less sulfury it is the better it is for scat play. Soft (yet solid) easily digestible alkaline foods are scat play friendly such as: bananas, avocados, As many bananas and ripe avocados and cantaloupes as you can eat before scat play yields pleasing results especially if you're a softcore newbie. Acidic and sulphuric protein (not recommended): milk, nuts, seeds, wheat based products, uncooked (hard) vegetables, hard acidic fruits, fish, spiced foods, pasta, acidic fruit juice, acidic sodas, alcohol, tomato sauces. Alkaline and sweet east for scat plat: bananas, avocados, cantaloupe pears, totally soft (and sweet tasting vegetables) cooked directly in water (not steamed) nutella, sugar in water, cake, mashed potatos, baby food, pablum, Chlorophyll candy and activated charcoal (odor neutralizers), magnesium carbonate makes healthy poop. If you do try it out, let me know how it went.",,Anonymous,w0l8zrr23.png,STSs2yLT7+LUWaZ4JSZvxA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1542680384 194010623,194013021,2018-11-20 02:20:59,>>194012905,,Anonymous,removeyourself.png,rM9LtNLIDaRqWNQB8V0GoQ==,US,United States,1542680459 194010623,194013084,2018-11-20 02:21:36,,,Anonymous,1494319990032.png,YmdeXuctXLMquYC3ZQ9VcA==,BR,Brazil,1542680496 194010623,194013229,2018-11-20 02:23:15,>>194010623,,Anonymous,1541730614915.jpg,GZeP+SrJ33EJtjXtG+RZUg==,US,United States,1542680595 194010623,194013279,2018-11-20 02:23:49,">>194010623 White nationalist libertarian is the final answer however there needs to be a modernization of some rules like banning things that are an absolute evil and are anti free society ideals. we cant have children without families so we must ban lgbt, the 2.1+ birthrate and families must be protected we cant continue to hold communist and anarchist to the same standards that we hold to our own normal contributing members of society so they must be banned and physically removed.",,Anonymous,489198_in-honor-of-liberty-prime-i-made-this-design-wallpaper-working_1920x1080_h.jpg,T1vMYFhJg6nIrWxAp0VpAg==,US,United States,1542680629 194010623,194013724,2018-11-20 02:29:05,">>194013279 You dont need to ban lgbt, just kick them out of your private white right wing community and let them fail like all degenerates who cant take care of themselves will. In a free market society these people cant leech off of anyone.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1542680945 194010623,194014093,2018-11-20 02:33:31,">>194013724 give them an inch and they will take a mile. i will not be satisfied until faggots and communist alike are banned and launched over the boarder.",,Anonymous,c24b9dbc293ef7b3f82dd36d6ae83cfb.jpg,A8fJotzKfDf4agLS8idrqw==,US,United States,1542681211 194010623,194014102,2018-11-20 02:33:42,,,Anonymous,58e.jpg,FPKZP//PM2OdsxAxPpGfkw==,US,United States,1542681222 194556872,194556872,2018-11-25 08:51:25,"This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTINE MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: ???????????? RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL -- where the fuck did the discord group go edition,Anonymous,1519067536420.gif,Td0EkfxX7UUZZeAS2MapHQ==,US,United States,1543135885 194556872,194557511,2018-11-25 09:03:32,,,Anonymous,bg-war-on-poverty-50-years-chart-2-825.jpg,9ndKl91UArTghiY6vuQ+xQ==,US,United States,1543136612 194556872,194557601,2018-11-25 09:05:37,,,Anonymous,1521524076724.jpg,R8wkhUrnrYPx17CqnobikQ==,US,United States,1543136737 194556872,194557721,2018-11-25 09:07:38,,,Anonymous,1521478843121.jpg,fV7hFw5EBSu1bTwX1M+QfA==,US,United States,1543136858 194556872,194557794,2018-11-25 09:09:00,,,Anonymous,1519077336808.png,6nSKZAfRYgVI4+F/maNJIw==,US,United States,1543136940 194556872,194559219,2018-11-25 09:36:07,,,Anonymous,oF3CXqM.png,h35cXitJC0VnCG9U5BOHLw==,US,United States,1543138567 194556872,194559305,2018-11-25 09:37:39,,,Anonymous,z6XtTTH.png,J9GjzQ2inx9pT+PwtfH7nA==,US,United States,1543138659 194556872,194559630,2018-11-25 09:44:41,,,Anonymous,1500108980554.png,B35mhfcXWfKpDAbG4yrS1g==,US,United States,1543139081 194556872,194559795,2018-11-25 09:48:06,,,Anonymous,8RgZZZs.png,qoGessxf6dvrSS0WddTscw==,US,United States,1543139286 194644094,194644094,2018-11-26 02:02:39,"THOT AUDIT EDITION Fellow libertarians, do we side with the thot patrollers or agree that #TaxationIsTheft DISCUSS",/lrg/ Libertarian Right General,Anonymous,proxy.duckduckgo.png,9dILAnWQ1QFu3qnUKA6Efw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1543197759 194644094,194644248,2018-11-26 02:04:03,"Taxation is theft but not paying taxes when everyone else is, is also theft.",,Anonymous,,,AU,Australia,1543197843 194644094,194644334,2018-11-26 02:04:49,">>194644094 hold them to their own standards and then abolish tax",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1543197889 194644094,194645855,2018-11-26 02:21:22,"The hypocrisy of leftist e-whores to demand free healthcare and education while avoiding (what they would deem as) their ""fair share"" is astonishing",,Anonymous,Capture+_2018-11-25-19-32-01-1.png,sgif0fx4cYNxqd2tJLyENA==,US,United States,1543198882 194644094,194645924,2018-11-26 02:22:05,">>194645855 if they demand taxes, then let them pay taxes! while we dont",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1543198925 194644094,194646026,2018-11-26 02:23:02,">>194645855 Being a liberal thot should be classified as a crime",,Anonymous,,,,Pirate,1543198982 194644094,194646055,2018-11-26 02:23:19,">>194644094 If we must play the taxation game, e-whores shouldn't get a pass.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1543198999 194644094,194646107,2018-11-26 02:23:57,">>194644248 fpbp which is a rarity from australia but I'll take it",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1543199037 194644094,194646112,2018-11-26 02:24:01,">>194645855 Hopefully this will cause the THOT to realize that taxation is theft and to abolish the FED and the Income Tax.",,Anonymous,,,,DEUS VULT,1543199041 194644094,194646130,2018-11-26 02:24:13,">>194645855 This. Give them a taste of their $5 Trillion Plus gibs they so seek to fund...",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1543199053 194644094,194646627,2018-11-26 02:29:21,">>194644248 I see it as based if the reasoning is right. Take Wesley Snipes invoking the constitution. These thots vote democrat and believe in raising taxes on everyone else while not contributing to the system they helped create. They should learn to fear the IRS like everyone else.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1543199361 194644094,194646942,2018-11-25 21:32:30,">>194644094 Private property is theft",,Anonymous,,,US,,1543181550 194644094,194648509,2018-11-26 02:48:12,">>194644094 The two greatest dangers to Liberty are governments and big business",,Anonymous,1530678562511.jpg,vmUH0MSzKL/CMFvySlxgeQ==,US,United States,1543200492 194644094,194649545,2018-11-26 02:59:00,">>194645855 This. *mic drop*",,Anonymous,1542164393326.jpg,by6Dnj99NszOcJADSRy7fw==,US,United States,1543201140 194644094,194649841,2018-11-26 03:02:27,">>194644094 I hate libertarians, but I hate leftist e-thots even more.",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1543201347 194644094,194651129,2018-11-26 03:17:42,">>194644094 >Using the same machine these people prise against them Ohh i wouldn't know anon",,Anonymous,,,SE,Sweden,1543202262 203712832,203712832,2019-02-19 17:22:51,"/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - WHERE'S THE DISCORD EDITION This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off. >LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8 >Discord & Book Club: Has been gone in a while, is there a new one? RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state >For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard) https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto >Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads",/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - WHERE'S THE DISCORD EDITION,Anonymous,1521144164682s.jpg,qvEXV59AyPWyDJ5+vSr4pQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1550596971 203712832,203714062,2019-02-19 17:36:11,"Good thread, faggot.",,Anonymous,1549430563203.png,CM3c/LX/nn4YU8nWepebXw==,US,United States,1550597771